[03:24] <rau> hello all
[03:24] <Unit193> Howdy.
[03:25] <rau> i just installes Ubuntu Studio
[03:25] <rau> installed*
[03:25] <rau> :)
[03:29] <fibz_> enjoy
[03:30] <fibz_> today i was working on win7 ultimate with adobe creative suite 6 and ended up needing ubuntu studio instead
[03:31] <fibz_> both windows and photoshop were incable of creating an icon file without internet connection
[06:51] <onaxis> when i download someting with firefox and do right click on top right arrow  where download progress is, when i choose "open containing folder" it opens audacious!!
[06:52] <cfhowlett> onaxis, you can change the default behavior - right click>properties>open with
[06:53] <onaxis> maybe i was not clear. i can't change the behaviour of firefox
[06:55] <cfhowlett> onaxis, firefox defaults can be edited as well
[06:56] <onaxis> is there any way to send you a prtscn to help me?
[06:56] <cfhowlett> onaxis, if the address bar: about:config    then ctrl-f to search for audacity.  change that to setting to thunar or nautilus
[07:02] <onaxis> @cfhowlett i don't get it really, sorry to bother you.
[07:02] <cfhowlett> onaxis, wait one
[07:08] <cfhowlett> onaxis, http://imagebin.org/293275
[07:15] <onaxis> oh my god, still nothing... http://imagebin.org/293278 if i press the top right opens audacious
[07:16] <cfhowlett> onaxis, nuke and rebuild your firefox files
[07:17] <onaxis> ok, many thanks man. thanks for ur time
[07:17] <cfhowlett> onaxis, display hidden files in your file manager, find .mozilla, delete and restart firefox
[15:05] <inahd> hmm, it seems pretty slow in here. i wonder how the ubuntustudio developement has been going?
[15:11] <inahd> alright, rebooting to ubuntustudio!
[15:51] <parweez> please help me to fix sound issue on ubuntu studio
[16:11] <inahd> i am suprised to find that my wireless card is not automatically recognized
[16:12] <inahd> i sort of figured that an ubuntu based distro would have had this worked out...
[16:21] <holstein> lol
[16:21] <holstein> one should be surprised that a wifi device manufacturer hasnt figured out how to support ubuntu by now
[16:39] <inahd> well, ubuntustudio sees my usb wireless dongle, but doesn't recognize pci
[16:40] <holstein> inahd: ok
[16:40] <holstein> inahd: think of it this way.. a manufacturer can choose to support ubuntu.. but, many dont
[16:40] <inahd> true
[16:40] <holstein> acutally, many *do*.. there are a minority that dont
[16:40] <holstein> !wifi
[16:40] <holstein> its likely a broadcom chip.. and early one
[16:41] <holstein> !broadcom
[16:41] <inahd> i believe bcm4321
[16:41] <holstein> you install the module that the manufacturer doesnt allow ubuntu to provide you by default, and it'll work
[16:41] <inahd> ahh
[16:41] <inahd> and must i blacklist etc?
[16:42] <inahd> i swear, some of these things my mind refuses to grasp even after doing them so many times
[16:42] <inahd> it makes me feel so stupid!
[16:44] <holstein> inahd: no
[16:44] <holstein> inahd:  you must install the module that supports your device
[16:44] <inahd> ok cool, i am on it
[16:44] <holstein> inahd: typically as simple as "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source"
[16:46] <inahd> i guess unofficial distros can get away with loading proprietary drivers and such into their software?
[16:46] <inahd> or something
[16:49] <holstein> inahd: you can "get away" with what you like
[16:49] <holstein> inahd: if you want to make a distro with that module, and break the licesing agreements, you can
[16:49] <inahd> oh i see
[16:50] <inahd> but maybe they will sue you for million dollars
[16:51] <holstein> inahd: maybe.. thats why its not in ubuntu
[16:52] <inahd> its annoying, i think stuff like that is like most of the reason people find linux intimidating
[16:53] <holstein> inahd: yeah?
[16:53] <holstein> inahd: it has nothing to do with linux
[16:53] <inahd> exactly!
[16:53] <inahd> but nonetheless, what can ya do??
[16:53] <holstein> inahd: any company is always welcome and encouaged to make drivers available. they only need to make the info available
[16:54] <inahd> would it break the licensing agreement to have a sceen during installation that would point to proprietary drivers and have the users click an agreement to take responsibility for installing them?
[16:55] <holstein> inahd: again, thats asking linux to sovle a problem that is not a linux probem
[16:55] <holstein> problem*
[16:56] <inahd> still, getting the internet to work right for people would make it a lot easier to promote linux
[16:57] <holstein> inahd: sure.. and we can address ther manufacturers.. and are
[16:57] <inahd> yes that's fair...
[16:59] <inahd> maybe even just a text file on the desktop that would educate people on getting their internet set up
[17:00] <inahd> looking at it from the perspective of a new user, anything like that would make a big difference.
[17:00] <holstein> sure.. but its different per hardware, and folks would need to read it
[17:01] <inahd> hehe
[17:02] <inahd> i always wanted to see a 'learnux' distro, that would teach you how to do everything
[17:07] <inahd> i guess i need to reboot to activate broadcom-sta
[17:08] <inahd> going down...
[17:10] <inahd_> ah very nice
[17:11] <inahd_> perhaps a .txt could be generated for someone based on detected hardware, etc?
[17:11] <inahd_> that would tell them what needed to be done
[17:15] <inahd> i must say, ubuntustudio seems much richer than the last time i used it
[17:15] <inahd> as far as preinstalled programs
[19:28] <SafariMonkey> So... I'm having a hard time getting recording to work through pavucontrol. I've tried VSXu (the one I'm trying to get working), audacity, sound recorder... recording doesn't work. Changing playback settings works though. This is not in studio as such, but as it's audio related, I was directed here.
[20:00] <SafariMonkey> Anyone?
[20:25] <inahd> um, SafariMonkey  what are you recording through?
[20:26] <SafariMonkey> inahd, Wanting to use soundcard output
[20:26] <SafariMonkey> tried an external USB mic too
[20:27] <inahd> you may try adjusting sound through another mixer
[20:27] <inahd> i always need to mess with mudita24 for recording
[20:27] <inahd> i guess it depends on your soundcard
[20:30] <SafariMonkey> inahd, I'll try it
[20:31] <SafariMonkey> Do I need to do anything to free the pipeline for mudita24 to work, inahd?
[20:31] <inahd> well i use mudita because i have the ice1712 soundcard
[20:31] <SafariMonkey> Ah OK
[20:32] <inahd> i also am recording through jack
[20:32] <SafariMonkey> http://pastebin.com/sRT8BSks
[20:33] <SafariMonkey> inahd, ^
[20:34] <inahd> what distro are you using anyways?
[20:35] <inahd> #opensourcemusicians is a more general audio related channel *hint*
[20:36] <inahd> lots of smart people there
[20:36] <SafariMonkey> I'm on 12.04
[20:36] <SafariMonkey> And thanks, I'll post there too
[20:37] <SafariMonkey> Thanks for the help inahd!
[20:38] <inahd> i do try


[16:00] <pleia2> sent out "time to write summaries"! email, have at it everyone: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfODlkODNxNnRnZA&hl=en


[20:04] <audix> hi, i get an error (500 Application error) when i click on the link "Asus" on the page http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[20:29] <newz2000> hey mhall119, ^
[20:35] <mhall119> newz2000: thanks, I'll pass it on
[20:35] <newz2000> Don't know who manages that now. :-/ Used to be cr3
[20:36] <mhall119> seems ok to me
[20:36] <mhall119> not sure what he did to trigger it
[20:37] <mhall119> I assume the got an oops report
[20:40] <newz2000> I'll bet the devs in charge of it log the 500s
[20:45] <mhall119> yeah, I can't reproduce it
[20:45] <mhall119> so it could have been a mid-deployment or something
[23:35] <daker>  mhall119 https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-team-portal/fix.839011-839014/+merge/139810
[23:36] <daker> when you have time plz


 ....dang it
 "avocado" 3D Models to Print - yeggi … http://m.yeggi.com/q/avocado/
 This is so freaking mean!!!
 Haha
 Gnome Terminal is better anyways
 it's not like i can install that, either!
 Sure you can
 Launch, it is easy
 Open a ChromeOS shell (crosh). Type vmc destroy termina
 Then vmc start termina
 vmc still doesn't work
 Screenshot
 i checked the flags, no crostini
 Enable Crostini in chrome://flags
 that's what i'm talking about
 enable-cros-container
 nor that
 Look for that
 i checked all this stuff
 Hm, that is strange
 Are you in Dev or Beta?
 dev
 but not canary
 WTF, Dev should work.
 on my acer?
 it works on the asus fine, not the acer right now
 Oh. I thought this was the Asus
 nope
 that's why it's mean!!!
 it's teasing me!
 The Acer won't work for a few releases. They're working on a backporting project. It will go live in ChromeOS 70
 gah, ok
 I give it a few weeks
 If not a week
 Just upgraded to android P
 First thoughts: I hate the ever present home button onscreen wasting space
 It's mocking me now
 @k
 @KMyers Amber and I are going out about 6-7pm.  Should we stop by or what should we do?
 I need to finish a few things but should be picking in a few hours


[00:00] <mup> PR snapcraft#4393 opened: fix: add part in snapcraft.yaml to build libgit2 <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4393>
[00:58] <up_uo-nig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqSA-SY5Hro
[00:58] <up_uo-nig> God, if you’re 5 foot 3 and you’re 300 pounds
[00:58] <up_uo-nig> Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
[00:58] <up_uo-nig> Young men are puttin’ themselves six feet in the ground
[00:58] <up_uo-nig> ‘Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin’ them down
[00:58] <up_uo-nig> irc.supernets.org #superbowl
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[02:51] <Elliria> Hey there. A while back, I ran this command to keep 2 extra revisions of Firefox because of an issue with a Firefox update: sudo snap set system refresh.retain=4
[02:51] <Elliria> Now that I have a work-around that's more or less handling the issue, I ran this command to go back to the default of keeping 2 revisions of Firefox: sudo snap set system refresh.retain=2
[02:52] <Elliria> I then ran this command to see if I only had 2 revisions of Firefox: sudo snap list --all
[02:52] <Elliria> It seems that I still have four revisions of Firefox and three or four revisions of core and gnome as well: https://bpa.st/M64Q
[02:52] <Elliria> Is that because I did that first command that didn't specify Firefox, but was, instead, aimed at all Snaps? And should I have fewer core and gnome revisions? Also, is there a command I can run to remove all but 2 revisions now that I've gone back to the default setting?
[06:22] <mup> PR pc-gadget#107 opened: 24 Support shim fallback bootchain <Created by olivercalder> <https://github.com/snapcore/pc-gadget/pull/107>
[06:36] <mup> PR snapd#13261 opened: interfaces: update polkit-agent interface to handle new location of polkit-agent-helper-1 <Created by jhenstridge> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13261>
[06:46] <mup> PR snapd#13262 opened: interface: allow nested directories under /sys/devices/platform for gpio paths <Needs security review> <Created by ZeyadYasser> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13262>
[07:16] <mup> PR snapd#13237 closed: o/snapstate: avoid incurring an extra reboot boundary for core snap when not boot-base <Bug> <Created by Meulengracht> <Merged by ernestl> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13237>
[07:31] <mup> PR snapd#13228 closed: o/devicestate: only add track validation-sets task in run-mode <Bug> <Pulse> <Run Nested -auto-> <Created by Meulengracht> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13228>
[08:12] <mup> PR snapd#13263 opened: tests/main: remove unsupported core16 base tests <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13263>
[09:07] <mup> PR snapd#13264 opened: tests/nested/manual: correct some reboot messages after reboot code changes <Simple 😃> <Test Robustness> <Run nested> <Run Nested -auto-> <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13264>
[09:22] <mup> PR snapd#13265 opened: o/snapstate: fix misalignment in RevisionOptions when requesting refresh candidates <Bug> <Created by ZeyadYasser> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13265>
[09:52] <mup> PR pc-gadget#108 opened: Bump edition for assets <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/pc-gadget/pull/108>
[09:57] <mup> PR pc-gadget#108 closed: Bump edition for assets <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by sil2100> <https://github.com/snapcore/pc-gadget/pull/108>
[10:53] <mup> PR snapd#13266 opened: tests/core20-boot-config-update: wait for the reboot before the watch <Simple 😃> <Run nested> <Run Nested -auto-> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13266>
[11:33] <mup> PR snapd#13238 closed: gadget,overlord: do not try to update if no content is defined <Run nested> <Run Nested -auto-> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13238>
[12:18] <mup> PR snapd#12984 closed: interfaces/builtin: added support for Token2 U2F keys <Created by stijnb1234> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12984>
[12:18] <mup> PR snapd#13223 closed: many: replace exec.CombinedOutput when output is parsed <Run nested> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13223>
[12:29] <Elliria> Hey there. Can this command be changed to work on just one Snap name or does it have to be used only for all Snaps? sudo snap set system refresh.retain=3
[12:29] <Elliria> For instance, can Firefox be specified for it?
[13:13] <mup> PR snapd#13122 closed: aspects: add query API to aspectstate with filters  <aspects> <Created by MiguelPires> <Closed by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13122>
[13:13] <mup> PR snapd#13267 opened: bootloader/assets/data/grub-recovery.cfg: set root when chainloading <Created by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13267>
[14:42] <mup> PR snapcraft#4392 closed: fix(project): improve error message for unsupported architectures <Created by mr-cal> <Merged by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4392>
[14:44] <mup> PR snapd#13268 opened: i/builtin: fix u2f tests that was broken by adding new device <Created by andrewphelpsj> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13268>
[14:49] <mup> PR snapd#13263 closed: tests/main: remove unsupported core16 base tests <Simple 😃> <Test Robustness> <Created by Meulengracht> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13263>
[14:49] <mup> PR snapd#13268 closed: i/builtin: fix u2f tests that was broken by adding new device <Created by andrewphelpsj> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13268>
[19:38] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4379 closed: Build pygit2 as a part <Bug> <Created by mr-cal> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4379>
[19:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#4393 closed: fix: add part in snapcraft.yaml to build libgit2 <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4393>
[21:57] <mup> PR snapd#13269 opened: i/builtin: update gpio profile to match pattern that contains multiple subdirectories under /sys/devices/platform <Created by andrewphelpsj> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13269>


[00:43] <holstein> meeting?
[00:45] <rlameiro> well it should be now or not?
[00:45] <rlameiro> I dont have to much time today
[00:50] <holstein> rlameiro: 10 minutes or so
[00:55] <rlameiro> ok
[00:55] <rlameiro> :)
[01:02] <holstein> hmmm...
[01:09] <rlameiro> holstein: it seems not a lot people for it...
[01:11] <holstein> hehe
[01:11] <holstein> i should have sent a reminder
[01:11] <rlameiro> lol
[01:12] <holstein> BUT there was an email on the list recently about not being able to come
[01:12] <holstein> and i thought that would server
[01:12] <holstein> serve*
[01:12] <rlameiro> well if people doesnt come maybe is better to reschedule
[01:12] <holstein> yeah, there's not really anything you and i can do at this point
[01:12] <holstein> we really need a web art update
[01:12] <holstein> and content discussion
[01:13] <holstein> rlameiro: maybe after the holidays
[01:13] <holstein> maybe at a completly different time too
[01:13] <holstein> like 10 hours earlier
[01:13] <holstein> on a weekend day
[01:14] <rlameiro> maybe
[01:14] <rlameiro> now i have a little more time
[01:14] <rlameiro> i will try to look into the studio controls to se what needs to be done
[01:14] <holstein> im trying to backport rakarrack
[01:14] <holstein> as a learning experience
[01:15] <holstein> im stuck somewhere
[01:15] <holstein> but i havent had time to work on it for a few days
[01:15] <holstein> been busy
[01:15] <rlameiro> well i also need to test backports... whenever you have them working i test them
[01:16] <holstein> it actually might alread be done
[01:16] <holstein> i think it was more like a test
[01:16] <holstein> to see if i can do one
[01:17] <rlameiro> well i can test the package
[01:17] <rlameiro> and the program
[01:18] <rlameiro> . I also need to do specific test cases for the workflows.... hummm
[01:18] <rlameiro> i think i will let the testing for latter :D
[01:18] <holstein> yeah, we got time i suppose
[18:59] <scott-work> holstein: today is the day for the website meeting, no?
[21:18] <holstein> scott-work: i thought it was last nite
[21:18] <holstein> BUT check in
[21:18] <holstein> i wont be here
[21:18] <holstein> i gotta gig...
[21:18] <holstein> biab..
[21:18] <holstein> well, not a bit, later


[18:41] <JanC> does anybody know if there is an indicator for the "sticky modifiers"? ☺
[18:42] <JanC> (shouldn't that be built into to standard keyboard indicator?)


[05:51] <silverlion> good morning
[06:47] <dholbach> good morning
[07:22] <silverlion> dholbach: good morning
[07:22] <dholbach> hey silverlion
[07:25]  * silverlion is looking forward to the uos starting tomorrow
[07:25] <dholbach> yes, me too :)
[07:26] <silverlion> i've handed in a whole week of vacation from my RL-Job to be able to attend as much as possible
[07:27] <dholbach> woah
[07:29] <silverlion> dholbach: I'm crazy, right ;) ?
[07:29] <dholbach> in a good way ;-)
[07:30] <silverlion> meaning?
[07:32] <dholbach> no, you're not :)
[10:26] <silverlion> o/ everybody
[10:33] <dpm> hi all
[10:33] <dpm> (from a very slow connection...)
[10:33] <silverlion> aloha dpm
[10:34] <dpm> hey silverlion :)
[10:38] <dpm> dholbach, around?
[10:40]  * silverlion is getting ready for the uos
[10:40] <silverlion> :D
[10:42] <dpm> cool :)
[10:44] <dholbach> hey dpm
[10:44] <dpm> hey :)
[10:46] <silverlion> wb dholbach
[10:49] <dpm> dholbach, I'll be on the road again in about 30 mins, but I'll be back with enough time to host sabdfl's session, but right now I'm in a pretty poor connecton. Could you perhaps help me spreading the word in the Ubuntu social media channels, etc?
[10:49] <dholbach> yep, will do!
[10:50]  * dpm hugs dholbach
[10:50] <dholbach> dpm, I'll point to ubuntuonair.com right?
[10:50]  * silverlion will try to attend too
[10:50] <silverlion> so if any help is needed just ping me
[10:51] <dpm> dholbach, we've got the event in ubuntuonair's G+ account, but probably the ubuntuonair.com page is best if we want to point people to a place where they can ask their questions
[10:51] <dpm> thanks silverlion!
[10:52] <dpm> dholbach, so long story short, yes, pointing to ubuntuonair.com might be the best thing
[10:52] <dholbach> rock and roll
[10:53]  * silverlion goes looking for vacancies @ canonical
[13:19] <dpm> mhall119, for some reason I can't join #ubuntu-uos-plenary - is it set up or is it something wrong at my end? Some folks seem to be in the #ubuntu-uds-plenary
[13:19] <dpm> channel instead
[13:20] <nigelb> dpm: there's a channel forward.
[13:20] <nigelb> from uos to uds
[13:20] <nigelb> perhaps your client isn't honoring the forward but knows there's a forward and is blocking you from entering?
[13:21] <mhall119> nigelb: I get the same, invite only
[13:21] <dpm> thanks nigelb :)
[13:22] <nigelb> mhall119: I've just tested my theory with webchat.
[13:22] <nigelb> :)
[13:23] <nigelb> I didn't realize it was UDS time.
[13:23] <nigelb> I've been fixing some tech debt on my blog and have to edit all my old posts. Been fun reading the UDS-M posts :)
[13:23] <mhall119> nigelb: pre-UOS keynote in ~30 minutes
[13:35] <elfy> bizarre - I get told -uos- is invite only when I'm already in -uds-
[13:35] <mhall119> elfy: me too
[13:36] <mhall119> it's evidently a redirect, from -uos to -uds, but it seems to give that error
[13:36] <mhall119> not sure if it's just if you have the -uds open already or not
[13:37] <elfy> seems that way here
[13:39] <mhall119> elfy: what client do you use?
[13:40] <elfy> hexchat
[13:40] <dholbach> can somebody in the irc team maybe help with that?
[13:40] <dholbach> or set it up another way?
[13:42] <elfy> would it not just be quicker to change the name of the channel at ubuntu on air?
[13:42] <elfy> is anyone actually in ubuntu-uos-plenary?
[13:42] <mhall119> I don't think so
[13:44] <dholbach> elfy, I think the people who use the website are actually fine
[13:45] <elfy> if I connect with the webchat - it redirects to -uds as well
[13:46] <elfy> not important I guess in that case
[13:48] <mhall119> I've talked to the IRC team, we'll leave it as-is for now but try and fix it after mark's keynote
[13:51] <silverlion> what's the irc chan for the keynote
[13:53] <elfy> #ubuntu-uds-plenary
[13:55] <silverlion> thanks elfy
[13:56] <MooDoo> howdy all
[13:56] <elfy> welcome :)
[13:56] <elfy> hi MooDoo
[13:56] <silverlion> let's hear what mark has to tell us ;)
[13:56] <MooDoo> :)
[13:57] <MooDoo> yeah just waiting for the stream to start, lets do hope it's not wobbly walrus lol
[13:57] <dholbach> haha
[13:58] <dholbach> after "wobbly windows" "wobbly walrus", why not? :)
[13:58] <MooDoo> lol :D
[13:58] <silverlion> does anyone have a link for the stream?
[13:58] <silverlion> can't find one
[13:58] <MooDoo> ubuntuonair.com
[13:59] <silverlion> thanks
[14:00] <MooDoo> yw
[14:30] <MooDoo> I didn't like the new name Wily Werewolf at first but i'm alright nooooooooooow! :)
[14:31] <elfy> ha
[15:53] <dholbach> all right my friends - see you all tomorrow at UOS! :-)
[16:48] <pleia2> hehe, werewolf
[16:49] <elfy> they can be a bit snappy you know ...
[17:34] <balloons> ugh, elfy I just read your comeback pun
[17:37] <elfy> balloons: what can I say
[21:23] <balloons> belkinsa, can we move http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22475/community-1505-ubuntu-women-1510-blueprint/ back an hour to 1900 utc, to swap with plasma 5 demo?
[22:23] <belkinsa> Sure, balloons.


[00:45] <pleia2> oh hm, has anyone heard from cproffit about the moodle training we tentatively had scheduled for tonight?
[01:20] <pleia2> cprofitt: hey!
[01:21] <cprofitt> hey pleia2
[01:21] <pleia2> are we doing a moodle call thingy tonight?
[01:21] <cprofitt> yes...
[01:21] <cprofitt> sorry...
[01:21] <cprofitt> my kids just stopped misbehaving and I just got on
[01:22] <cprofitt> was it 8pm or 9pm we were shooting for?
[01:22] <pleia2> 9pm, I was just wondering, you're not late :)
[01:22] <cprofitt> phew
[01:22] <cprofitt> sounds good.
[01:22] <pleia2> I haven't seen doctormo talk about it though
[01:22] <cprofitt> I am ready willing and able
[01:23] <pleia2> and I was hoping to tag along with your conversation, I still need to read the moodle documentation :( bad pleia2
[01:23] <cprofitt> You and I can do it if doc is not here
[01:23] <pleia2> I should probably be better prepared
[01:24] <cprofitt> nah... its ok
[01:51] <pleia2> hm, still no doctormo!
[01:52] <cprofitt> I am still up for training you at least...
[01:52] <pleia2> ok, how should I prepare?
[01:52]  * pleia2 gets logged into learn.ufbt.net
[01:52] <cprofitt> http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=7
[01:54] <pleia2> ok, it's clear to me that I don't even know how to TAKE a moodle class
[01:54] <pleia2> what do I click on? I just see a bunch of lines
[01:54] <pleia2> hehe
[01:55] <cprofitt> pleia2, are you on the conference yet?
[01:55] <pleia2> no, have to dial in at 9:01
[01:56] <cprofitt> k
[01:56] <cprofitt> you went to the link I gave you
[01:56] <pleia2> yes
[01:56] <cprofitt> in the upper right had corner there should be a 'turn editing on'
[01:57] <cprofitt> button... click that
[01:57] <doctormo> Hello
[01:57] <cprofitt> for editing...
[01:57] <cprofitt> hey doctormo - http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=7
[01:57] <pleia2> ok
[01:57] <cprofitt> I would like to wait until we conference...
[01:57] <cprofitt> then I can go over all the 'parts'
[01:58] <pleia2> alright :)
[01:58] <pleia2> oh, maybe the course I should be "taking" is the one with the videos?
[02:00] <doctormo> http://imagebin.ca/view/s3GrgK3V.html <- I'm not at home, I've just exited from a Carnival in Cambridge.
[02:00] <doctormo> But I'm here at a cafe to do this lesson, 9:00pm exactly
[02:00] <cprofitt> no -- I want to walk you through this stuff...
[02:00] <pleia2> ok, it's after 9, I'll call in now
[02:02] <cprofitt> in conference
[02:03] <cprofitt> you dialing in doctormo ?
[02:07] <doctormo> no
[02:07] <doctormo> wait
[02:07] <doctormo> Some complexity with my location
[02:09] <doctormo> cprofitt, pleia2: can either of you remind me of the phone number and details? trying to find the email
[02:10] <cprofitt> see private
[02:10] <doctormo> thanks cprofitt
[02:36] <cprofitt> http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=3
[02:42] <pleia2> call just went silent for me
[02:43]  * pleia2 dials back in
[02:44] <doctormo> pleia2: you back yet?
[02:44] <pleia2> yep!
[03:37] <pleia2> cprofitt: oh hey, are you going to be at the waterloo release party?
[03:40] <cprofitt> pleia2, no... its on a Sunday... during football season
[03:40] <pleia2> cprofitt: gah! :( but I will be there!
[03:40] <cprofitt> yes, another missed opportunity to meet you... :-(
[03:41] <pleia2> psh, football, I see how it is :)
[03:41] <cprofitt> very sorry... but I have not missed a Buccaneers game in six years
[03:41] <pleia2> hehe
[03:41] <pleia2> ok ok
[03:44] <cprofitt> I hope you really got some value out of the call...
[03:44] <pleia2> oh I did, it was great :)
[03:45] <cprofitt> here is the site I spoke about -- http://www.classroom20.com/
[03:45] <cprofitt> its EDU and mostly K-12...
[03:45] <cprofitt> http://community.k12opensource.com/
[03:45] <cprofitt> that is the other one
[03:45] <pleia2> ah ok, I'd seen the http://community.k12opensource.com/
[03:46] <cprofitt> yea.. they talk a bit about Moodle as well.
[06:29] <doctormo> Evening all
[06:36] <bodhizazen> 'lo doctormo
[06:40] <doctormo> bodhizazen: How's it going bodi, haven't seen you around much.
[06:41] <bodhizazen> I've been quiet on this channel =)
[06:42] <doctormo> :-)
[18:39] <cprofitt> pleia2, you around?


[05:44] <stub> wgrant: The large file branch is ready for review. Code changes were minimal to improve the paranoia checks.
[05:46] <wgrant> stub: Thanks. Will look shortly.


[00:43] <Rocket2DMn> geez, duncan made such a mess of things
[00:44] <Rocket2DMn> it is impossible to follow all these connections
[23:16] <Sp3c1alK> is there an api in c/c++ for ubuntu?
[23:17] <Flannel> Sp3c1alK: What do you mean?
[23:18] <Sp3c1alK> I'm wanting to develop an app in c/c++ using some networking features, and I'm wondering if there is any documentation or an api for ubuntu that I could use
[23:18] <Sp3c1alK> like the WinAPI on msdn
[23:18] <Flannel> Yeah, it's not ubuntu specific, but Linux specific.
[23:18] <Sp3c1alK> where can I find this at?
[23:19] <Flannel> Um, well, networking you'd use sockets I imagine.  Let me see what I can find in a cursory search
[23:22] <Sp3c1alK> ok, thanks
[23:23] <Flannel> Well, there's lot out there.  None of them really stand out as extremely good.  But "Linux Networking C++" returns relevant results, etc.  Try #ubuntu-programming maybe, they may know of better resources besides just man pages and google.
[23:23] <Sp3c1alK> alright, thanks =)


[01:35] <monkwitdafunk> hello #ubuntu-server
[01:36] <sarnold> that's one funky monk
[01:36] <monkwitdafunk> i was ready to start using ubuntu-server until i realizedi need a web browser to get the internet froma captive portal
[01:37] <monkwitdafunk> hello seth arnold
[01:37] <monkwitdafunk> therefore im going to need a wireless ISP
[01:38] <monkwitdafunk> kinda sucks how all i have is a captive portal and just a ubuntu server DVD
[01:38] <v0lksman> is lynx still a thing?
[01:38] <monkwitdafunk> is lynx included in ubuntu server? i thoughtit wasnt
[01:39] <monkwitdafunk> i tried checking using man..... and i couldnt find anything
[01:39] <sarnold> lynx? w3m? links? elinks?
[01:40] <sarnold> I can't recall which ones we ship any more..
[01:52] <monkwitdafunk> i tried to manpages the text based browser and i came to the conclusion that there is no browser
[01:53] <monkwitdafunk> i did however have fun with vimtutor :-D
[01:53] <monkwitdafunk> anyways, my usb and internal optical drive is broken
[01:54] <sarnold> oh man. you've reminded me of my fun time with vitutor back in the day
[02:12] <monkwitdafunk> i did however forget to compare ---> sudo visudo to other distributions
[02:13] <monkwitdafunk> i just want to use ubuntu server, with desktop applications without the desktop enviroment
[02:13] <monkwitdafunk> and im hoping the HP stream pro 11 G5 is compatable with 20.04
[02:14] <monkwitdafunk> i know the G4 education edition was compatablewith the HP G4
[02:14] <sarnold> "with desktop applications without the desktop enviroment" -- what do you mean here?
[02:15] <monkwitdafunk> install xorg and thunderbird
[02:15] <monkwitdafunk> i guess i can use mutt
[02:16] <monkwitdafunk> i had a hard time using mutt but i will get used to it if i spent a year or two using mutt
[02:17] <sarnold> aha, okay
[02:18] <sarnold> you can do that -- I did something similar to get my laptop working, I wanted zfs, and at the time it required a more complicated installation method
[02:18] <monkwitdafunk> i forget which filesystem sees multiple drives as one drive
[02:18] <sarnold> but it's not nearly as easy as picking one of the flavours that is close enough to your tastes and installing that
[02:18] <monkwitdafunk> oh wow. maybe ubuntu studio
[02:19] <monkwitdafunk> but all i have is server
[02:21] <monkwitdafunk> i feel a little paranoid about windows popping up in ubuntu desktop asking for passwd
[02:23] <sarnold> yeah, I don't like that much either
[02:36] <monkwitdafunk> so does that mean the solution to be freed from that particular paranoia is to use ubuntu server?
[02:39] <sarnold> you can't be prompted with a gui popup if there's no gui :) hehe
[09:14] <lordievader> Good morning


[05:11] <tomp711> Hey guys fresh install on my new Lenovo laptop. I am looking for some help on getting the touch volume keys to work
[11:12] <rmg51> Morning
[12:02] <rmg51> JonathanD: must still be at the Zoo ;-)
[12:08] <JonathanD> Hi rmg51
[12:11] <waltman> rmg51: What, you think JonathanD can't IRC from the zoo?
[12:25] <rmg51> it's possible
[12:25] <rmg51> but he is usually here much earlier
[12:26] <rmg51> that could mean the zookeepers didn't wake him up early enough
[12:26] <rmg51> anyway, time to leave for work :P
[13:07] <teddy-dbear> morning
[14:12] <JonathanD> Morning.
[14:14] <MutantTurkey> Morning'
[15:38] <Adom|office> hi all
[15:53] <InHisName> mornin'
[16:47] <Adom|office> so i officially hate GoDaddy. never using them for hosting again.
[16:47] <JonathanD> Victory!
[16:47] <JonathanD> Adom|office: what did they do this time?
[16:48] <Adom|office> just horrible experience trying to migrate a linux WP blog installation to a windows godaddy shared server
[16:48] <Adom|office> they have the stupidest things turned on and off to make the process painstakingly difficult
[16:48] <JonathanD> To a windows shared server?
[16:48] <Adom|office> ya
[16:48] <JonathanD> I'm not sure why you would want to do that...
[16:49] <Adom|office> orders is orders'
[16:49] <JonathanD> But I hate godaddy too.
[16:49] <Adom|office> whats your preferred hosting spot?
[16:49] <JonathanD> I mostly use linodes.
[16:49] <JonathanD> But they are not windows.
[16:50] <JonathanD> I also use 1and1 for shared hosting (really for cheap bulk space)
[16:50] <Adom|office> thats fine, i prefer linux, but coworkers dont know it so hosting for here is usually done with winblows
[16:50] <Adom|office> ive heard 1and1 is nice
[16:50] <JonathanD> 1and1 has VPS and dedicated stuff.
[16:50] <JonathanD> 1and1 is ok.
[16:50] <JonathanD> Not perfect, but ok.
[16:51] <JonathanD> We have a windows dedicated server with them, actually.
[16:52] <ChinnoDog> woot-off
[16:53] <Adom|office> ChinnoDog: you need a vacuum?
[16:54] <ChinnoDog> No, just pointing out it is going on
[16:55] <JonathanD> home.woot has a inflatable mattress right now
[16:55] <JonathanD> also in wootoff
[16:55] <Adom|office> ahh
[16:56] <JonathanD> Adom|office: you should demo them a linode.
[16:56] <JonathanD> are you going to be using wordpress?
[16:56] <Adom|office> i just convinced them to switch to linux on GoDaddy rather than Windows, i doubt i could push a host change :(
[16:57] <Adom|office> yeah WP for a site we're working on
[16:57] <Adom|office> well...a site some grad students want to work on
[16:57] <Adom|office> that i have to set up
[16:59] <Adom|office> we're updating our alumni site from some older limited web software to a WP install with BuddyPress and some other plugins
[16:59] <Adom|office> prettier, easier to interact with, etc
[16:59] <Adom|office> im all for it, but the grad students on it aren't nerds at all, and only one has WP experience
[17:00] <JonathanD> how much is the godaddy plan?
[17:00] <Adom|office> quick side question: is it true that you can host a WP on GoDaddy free economy hosting?
[17:00] <Adom|office> um
[17:01] <Adom|office> like $5/month
[17:01] <JonathanD> I don't know about that.
[17:02] <JonathanD> not awful.
[17:02] <JonathanD> They're an awful host, though :P
[17:02] <Adom|office> right
[17:02] <Adom|office> you get what you pay for
[17:03] <Adom|office> maybe once i get the GoDaddy linux install up and running nicely, i can demo a linode install
[17:03] <JonathanD> I can loan you a linode to demo on.
[17:03] <Adom|office> does linode use cpanel or plesk or something?
[17:03] <Adom|office> i might take you up on that later
[17:03] <JonathanD> linode doesn't use anything. You have a ground-up install.
[17:04] <JonathanD> You can put on whatever you want, at that point.
[17:04] <Adom|office> ahh, i shee
[17:04] <Adom|office> i like that a lot, but higher ups wont
[17:04] <Adom|office> they dont like the command line
[17:04] <JonathanD> They don't need to see the command line.
[17:04] <Adom|office> so id have to install cpanel or something
[17:04] <JonathanD> Yeah.
[17:05] <Adom|office> id like that for a personal remote box a lot actually
[17:05] <JonathanD> I use one for that.
[17:05] <JonathanD> for irc and the like.
[17:05] <JonathanD> and for development
[17:06] <Adom|office> JonathanD: http://www.mariasguides.com/2006/09/18/moving-a-wordpress-blog-to-godaddy-hostingcom-part-1/
[17:06] <Adom|office> scroll down to "If you're using a free hosting credit..."
[17:06] <Adom|office> thats why i asked
[17:06] <JonathanD> sounds like it adds ads?
[17:09] <Adom|office> probably
[17:09] <Adom|office> which would be acceptable i guess for a free hosting credit
[17:09] <Adom|office> might dabble with it
[17:09] <JonathanD> linodes are relatively expensive, compared to cheap hosting.
[17:10] <Adom|office> yeah, i probably wouldnt hit a snag with that if i recommended it though, luckily money isnt usually an issue when it comes to new projects
[17:11] <Adom|office> especially if the only linux nerd (me) says its what we need
[17:11] <JonathanD> Having full control gives you more options later, too.
[17:11] <Adom|office> true
[17:11] <JonathanD> If you decide, for example, you want a redundant clone somewhere. Easy to do with full access.
[17:11] <JonathanD> A real PITA without.


[03:43] <ClientAlive> not sure if this may be useful for anyone in the future (just thought I'd throw it out there in case someone comes with problems with it in the future): "he b43-fwcutter package (as of 1:013~git20100413-1) no longer acquires firmware, separate installer packages are now used."  Source: http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#supported-b43
[04:13] <ClientAlive> ok
[04:13] <ClientAlive> I saw that message
[04:14] <ClientAlive> well, I'll try it (debian) I don't have much to lose. fwcutter has worked for me in the past but for some reason was not working with ubuntu 12.04
[09:14] <r4y> How do I use the file I created using gnome subtitles?
[09:14] <r4y> I wanted to save it to the video I was making captions for but I can;t figure out how
[09:16] <geirha> I've never done that myself, but it depends on the container for the video file
[09:16] <geirha> some containers can't contain subtitles, so you have to put the subtitles next to the video file, with the same name, just different extension
[09:16] <r4y> It has the extention .srt
[09:17] <r4y> How do people put captions on youtube?
[09:19] <geirha> That's some custom youtube thingy I think
[10:06] <r4y> O, I see, so I should see if I can add captions when uploading videos. Sorry I didn't know what you meant. TY
[13:28] <aeoril> \o/
[13:29] <stlsaint> aeoril: o/
[13:29] <aeoril> \o
[13:29] <aeoril> 'sup?
[16:46] <Great_Danton> I have one question regarding partitioning. How much space I need for my ROOT partition?
[16:49] <stlsaint> Great_Danton: how big is your drive?
[16:50] <Great_Danton> actually it's 500gb, but I have partitions
[16:50] <Great_Danton> so 290 for ubuntu partition
[16:50] <stlsaint> Great_Danton: i use a 250GB and i usually split like this:
[16:50] <Great_Danton> okay
[16:50] <stlsaint> my /boot is: 500MB
[16:51] <stlsaint> the / is: between 15-20GB
[16:51] <stlsaint> and if im not dual booting i give the rest to /home
[16:51] <Great_Danton> okay thx
[16:51] <Great_Danton> 20 gb for root then
[16:52] <Great_Danton> stlsaint i don't have boot partition
[16:52] <stlsaint> thats fine
[16:53] <Great_Danton> I don't need boot partition right
[16:53] <Great_Danton> ?
[16:54] <Great_Danton> I don't have it right now
[16:54] <stlsaint>  it is in / if you dont make separate
[16:54] <stlsaint> All you really need to set is your / and swap
[16:54] <Great_Danton> ok
[16:54] <Great_Danton> swap is already set
[16:55] <stlsaint> anything more is extra
[16:56] <Great_Danton> stlsaint what is in root partition?
[16:56] <Great_Danton> programs are not
[16:57] <stlsaint> Great_Danton: yes they are
[16:57] <Great_Danton> but why is not root partition bigger then?
[16:58] <stlsaint> Great_Danton: how big do you think .conf are lol?
[16:59] <Great_Danton> idk
[16:59] <Great_Danton> it's small
[17:00] <stlsaint> i have never completely filled up my / before
[17:00] <Great_Danton> ok, thank you
[17:00] <stlsaint> user data for the apps is still kept in /home
[19:33] <nothingspecial> hi cortman :)
[19:33] <cortman> we meet again nothingspecial :)
[19:33] <nothingspecial> lol
[19:33] <nothingspecial> if there are enough people in here willing to help then this could become a great channel again
[19:37] <cortman> I'd hang out here, don't know how much help I could give
[19:53] <bodhi_zazen> stlsaint: you can fill / if you have a misbehaving kernel or process writing to /var/log =(
[19:53] <bodhi_zazen> Enable iptables logging on a busy server
[19:59] <Great_Danton> bodhi_zazen I have a question
[20:06] <penreturns> :)
[20:17] <bodhi_zazen> sure, we have answers
[20:17] <Great_Danton> fedora
[20:17] <Great_Danton> lo
[20:17] <Great_Danton> lol
[20:17] <Great_Danton> I reinstalled Ubuntu
[20:17] <Great_Danton> and now I can't see fedora
[20:17] <Great_Danton> why?
[20:18] <bodhi_zazen> fedora and ubuntu grub do not play nice or you over wrote Fedora
[20:18] <john_barleycorn> Great_Danton, sudo update-grub
[20:18] <bodhi_zazen> fdisk -l
[20:18] <Great_Danton> I have different partitions
[20:19] <Great_Danton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090498/
[20:20] <Unit193> os-prober not find them?
[20:20] <Great_Danton> os-prober?
[20:20] <Great_Danton> ubuntu grub doesn't recognize fedora
[20:20] <bodhi_zazen> grub uses os-prober to find other OS to include in the grub menu
[20:21] <bodhi_zazen> Chainload it
[20:22] <Great_Danton> ubuntu 12.04 uses grub 1.99?
[20:22] <bodhi_zazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10439004&postcount=21
[20:26] <stlsaint> bodhi_zazen: oh yea ive had a kernel go log crazy before
[20:27] <bodhi_zazen> Seriously, who reads 50 Gb of kernel logs ?
[20:27] <bodhi_zazen> They really should rate limit logs ;)
[20:28] <Great_Danton> xD
[20:29] <stlsaint> lol
[20:30] <Great_Danton> bodhi_zazen If I understand right I have to change this: gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[20:33] <bodhi_zazen> Great_Danton: yea, do that
[20:33] <Great_Danton> ok, thx
[20:36] <Great_Danton> bodhi_zazen: insmod ext2
[20:36] <Great_Danton> do I have to change to ext4?
[20:36] <bodhi_zazen> no
[20:36] <Great_Danton> ok.
[20:37] <Great_Danton> reboot and we will see .)
[20:37] <Great_Danton> :)
[20:37] <bodhi_zazen> update grub first ...
[20:43] <GreatDanton> bodhi_zazen I get an error.
[20:43] <GreatDanton> can't find file or something like that
[20:43] <GreatDanton> menuentry "sda9" {
[20:43] <GreatDanton>         insmod ext2
[20:43] <GreatDanton>         set root=(hd0,9)
[20:43] <GreatDanton>         multiboot /boot/grub/core.img
[20:43] <GreatDanton> }
[20:45] <bodhi_zazen> Is grub installed in the fedora partition ?
[20:45] <GreatDanton> I think it's not
[20:46] <GreatDanton> it's on sda
[20:46] <GreatDanton> fedora partition is sda9
[20:48] <GreatDanton> hmm ,what if I install fedora once again?
[20:48] <bodhi_zazen> mount /dev/sda9 /mnt
[20:48] <bodhi_zazen> ls /mnt/boot/grub | grep core | pastebinit
[20:49] <GreatDanton> mount: can't find /dev/sda9/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[20:49] <bodhi_zazen> naw GreatDanton , better to fix
[20:49] <bodhi_zazen> mount /dev/sda9 /mnt
[20:49] <bodhi_zazen> you forgot the space, and you need to sudo that
[20:50] <GreatDanton> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[20:50] <GreatDanton> i did
[20:50] <bodhi_zazen> Ah, LVM ...
[20:50] <bodhi_zazen> you need the Fedora /boot partition
[20:50] <GreatDanton> I think that is sda8
[20:50] <GreatDanton> but I don't know for sure
[20:50] <GreatDanton> there is about 500 Mb of space
[20:51] <bodhi_zazen> mount /dev/sda8 /mnt && ls /mnt
[20:51] <GreatDanton> on sda8
[20:51] <GreatDanton> config-3.3.4-5.fc17.i686  initramfs-3.3.4-5.fc17.i686.img
[20:51] <GreatDanton> efi                       lost+found
[20:51] <GreatDanton> elf-memtest86+-4.20       memtest86+-4.20
[20:51] <GreatDanton> grub                      System.map-3.3.4-5.fc17.i686
[20:51] <GreatDanton> grub2                     vmlinuz-3.3.4-5.fc17.i686
[20:51] <bodhi_zazen> so ...
[20:51] <bodhi_zazen> set root=(hd0,9)
[20:51] <bodhi_zazen> becomes
[20:51] <bodhi_zazen> set root=(hd0,8)
[20:51] <GreatDanton> oh
[20:52] <GreatDanton> thx
[20:52] <GreatDanton> reboot and we will see
[20:57] <GreatDanton> bodhi_zazen: error couldn't open file
[20:58] <bodhi_zazen> multiboot /boot/grub/core.img needs to read multiboot /grub/core.img
[20:59] <GreatDanton> so?
[21:00] <bodhi_zazen> so what ?
[21:00] <GreatDanton> what to do now?
[21:00] <GreatDanton> testing?
[21:00] <bodhi_zazen> edit you grub and change the line ^^
[21:00] <bodhi_zazen> multiboot /boot/grub/core.img needs to read multiboot /grub/core.img
[21:01] <GreatDanton> oh, I didn't notice that there is no /boot/
[21:02] <GreatDanton> brb
[21:07] <GreatDanton> bodhi_zazen: error couldn't open file
[21:07] <GreatDanton> the same error
[21:09] <bodhi_zazen> did you update grub after those edits ?
[21:09] <GreatDanton> yes
[21:09] <GreatDanton> sudo update-grub
[21:10] <GreatDanton> I think fedora grub was overwritten.
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> mount /dev/sda8 again
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> ls /mnt/grub
[21:17] <bodhi_zazen> Gah - Fedora puts it in /grub2/core.img
[21:18] <GreatDanton> ?
[21:18] <GreatDanton> i did
[21:18] <GreatDanton> you want output?
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> multiboot /boot/grub/core.img needs to read multiboot /boot/grub2/core.img
[21:19] <GreatDanton> okay
[21:20] <GreatDanton> brb revoot
[21:20] <GreatDanton> reboot
[21:23] <GreatDanton> bodhi_zazen: error file not found
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen> mount sda8 and use the correct path
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen>  /grub2/core.img
[21:24] <GreatDanton> without /boot/?
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen> I think I accidently added /boot again
[21:24] <GreatDanton> LOL
[21:25] <GreatDanton> brb reboot
[21:27] <GreatDanton> bodhi_zazen: error file not found
[21:28] <bodhi_zazen> so is the file in grub2 ?
[21:28] <GreatDanton> I think it's not
[21:29] <GreatDanton> otherwise it will work
[21:29] <bodhi_zazen> So add an entry for Fedora then
[21:29] <bodhi_zazen> title fedora
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> root (hd0,8)
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> you can steal an entry from /dev/sda8 grub/grub.conf
[21:32] <GreatDanton> bodhi_zazen how to get into that directory?
[21:32] <GreatDanton> cat?
[21:33] <GreatDanton> nope
[21:33] <bodhi_zazen> mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[21:33] <bodhi_zazen> gksu gedit /mnt/grub/grub.conf
[21:33] <GreatDanton> lol there is nothing
[21:33] <GreatDanton> empta
[21:34] <GreatDanton> empty document
[21:35] <bodhi_zazen> gksu gedit /mnt/grub2/grub.cfg
[21:35] <GreatDanton> yep there is something
[21:36] <GreatDanton> Do i have to copy paste it into 40_custom?
[21:36] <bodhi_zazen> just an entry, not the whole thing
[21:36] <bodhi_zazen> menuentry ....
[21:36] <bodhi_zazen> thorugh initrd ....
[21:37] <GreatDanton> till which part of text
[21:38] <bodhi_zazen> I wonder if you need some of those modules
[21:39] <bodhi_zazen> All you need is the first entry for Fedora
[21:39] <GreatDanton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090600/
[21:39] <GreatDanton> is this the entry?
[21:39] <bodhi_zazen> no
[21:40] <bodhi_zazen> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
[21:40] <bodhi_zazen> menuentry 'Fedora Linux, with ....
[21:41] <GreatDanton> and when does it end
[21:41] <GreatDanton> with ###END /etc/grun.d/10_linux?
[21:42] <bodhi_zazen> no, ends with initrd ...
[21:42] <bodhi_zazen> }
[21:42] <GreatDanton> the first one?
[21:42] <bodhi_zazen> and then there is the second menuentry ...
[21:42] <bodhi_zazen> yep
[21:43] <GreatDanton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090602/
[21:43] <GreatDanton> this then?
[21:43] <bodhi_zazen> I hope that works
[21:43] <GreatDanton> me too
[21:44] <GreatDanton> this text I have to put it in 40_custom?
[21:44] <bodhi_zazen> yea
[21:44] <GreatDanton> under multiboot ...
[21:44] <GreatDanton> ?
[21:45] <bodhi_zazen> yea, wherever you put the other entry
[21:45] <GreatDanton> after } or before }
[21:45] <bodhi_zazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:45] <bodhi_zazen> you could try that ^^
[21:45] <GreatDanton> LOL
[21:45] <bodhi_zazen> Careful with those {}
[21:45] <GreatDanton> I know this tool
[21:45] <bodhi_zazen> probably after
[21:45] <GreatDanton> okay
[21:46] <GreatDanton> brb reboot
[21:46] <GreatDanton> Boot repair doesn't work
[21:46] <bodhi_zazen> shame
[21:46] <GreatDanton> I mean it work but only for Ubuntu
[21:46] <bodhi_zazen> fedora only recently started using grub2
[21:46] <bodhi_zazen> and they use it differently
[21:47] <GreatDanton> shame
[21:47] <GreatDanton> It would be better if they use it like others
[21:52] <GreatDanton> bodhi_zazen it works!!
[21:53] <GreatDanton> I am currently on Fedora
[21:53] <GreatDanton> ^.^
[21:53] <bodhi_zazen> \o/
[21:53] <bodhi_zazen> Still, would be nice to chainload
[21:53] <GreatDanton> btw, is it possible to move x button to the left side?
[21:54] <bodhi_zazen> You could try adding all those modules to your chainload
[21:54] <bodhi_zazen> Not sure about that
[21:54] <GreatDanton> what about changing font?
[21:55] <bodhi_zazen> try gnome tweak tool
[21:55] <GreatDanton> okay