[18:56] <davidrsmorris> Hi, I'm thinking of grabbing Unity HUD functionality to add into AwesomeWM.  Does anyone here know how it works?  I started looking at the Bazaar trunk and I'm having difficulty parsing it.
[18:56] <ezra-s> nashant, afaik grub always try to use the latest kernel
[18:56] <Beldar> nashant, Any other old installs lingering in the HD not completely removed?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> nooblinux  from the man page: " nslookup - query Internet name servers interactively"
[18:57] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: that's NOT gonna work (OR be VERY difficult) i imagine...  Unity uses compiz, awesome is an alternative WM...  good luck.  (combining unity + awesome, now i've seen everything!)
[18:58] <Beldar> nashant, Can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[18:58] <zykotick9> Beldar: if gpt partition table is used, asking for "sudo parted -l" might give more real details...
[18:59] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: I was thinking of figuring out how it scrapes menus, and running that library outside of Compiz... and then using a very minimal interface a la Menubar to deal with the information.
[18:59] <eer> How can I create a password protected zip file on Kubuntu using the GUI?
[18:59] <Beldar> zykotick9, true, that pesky gpt. ;)
[18:59] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: best of luck!  i'd have NO idea where to begin!  but, i forsee an UP HILL BATTLE
[19:01] <nooblinux> ok
[19:03] <runningdog415> last try any one know how to get a ATI TV Wonder to work with13.10??
[19:04] <ezra-s> eer, good question, you may laugh at me but if you have wine installed you could use 7zip much better for gui, ark which is afaik the default option is not very complex and I don't see the option for that
[19:04] <ezra-s> from command line there are many choices though
[19:04] <Danato> whats the command to check my ethernet adapter? is it something with lscpi?
[19:04] <ezra-s> Danato, lspci | grep -i ethernet
[19:05] <ezra-s> that will tell you which ethernet adapters you have
[19:05] <Danato> thanks ezra-s
[19:05] <zykotick9> Danato: you might want to check "lspci | grep -i net" as well... if it's not in ethernet
[19:07] <Danato> zykotick9: I jst wanted the ethernet adapter, but thanks, that made me understand the command :)
[19:07] <TomyWork> hi. what's the (source or binary) package that contains pam_unix?
[19:07] <zykotick9> Danato: fyi, the -i to grep means case insenstive (iMpOrTaNt)
[19:07] <TomyWork> libpam-modules?
[19:08] <Danato> zykotick9: that i already knew
[19:08] <nashant> Beldar: No other old installs, grub is installed to /dev/sda1 (/boot partition) /root is in /dev/mapper/server-root. I had to run boot-repair from a chroot in a live usb because I had bits of an old kernel laying around, and for somereason was booting into it. So removed the kernel, ran update-grub and it only gave me memtest, hence boot-repair. But now it won't auto boot
[19:09] <Beldar> nashant, Did you save the bootinfo summary from boot repiar?
[19:09] <nashant> Beldar: no. oops.
[19:10] <Beldar> nashant, grub can be purge and reloaded quite easily to just have a fresh setup.
[19:10] <zykotick9> nashant: (i can't really help) but having grub on sda1 (the partition) is "weak" compared to the MBR = sda.... just saying
[19:11] <Beldar> +1
[19:11] <tozen> Sven_vB: r u here?
[19:11] <nashant> so purge grub and reinstall to sda?
[19:11] <Sven_vB> tozen, yes
[19:12] <Beldar> nashant, you have kernels in sda1, not sure on moving it myself.
[19:12] <nashant> kernels in sda1?
[19:12] <tozen> Sven_vB: i found nmcli nm and nmcli dev this is what i needed but anyway thx, pal!
[19:12] <tripelb2> I want my PANEL ICON back please help me. -- 12.04 Gnome-classic:that windshieldwipertrace shaped thing that gets parellel lines on in when I am connected to a network, ie the connectivity-icon in the PANEL has vanished and I want it back, please.
[19:13] <Beldar> nashant, No one suggested, " so purge grub and reinstall to sda?" there were two different comments is all.
[19:14] <Sven_vB> tozen, ye
[19:14] <nashant> Beldar: if I purge grub and reinstall it will ask me to select the device to install to anyway, no?
[19:14] <tripelb2> How can I tell when my wifi is connected and to which network. It used to be on the panel.. now I am searching in the menus. 12.04,gnomeclassic.
[19:14] <Sven_vB> tozen, yw*
[19:14] <tozen> yw* ???
[19:14] <nashant> Beldar: oh. I thought by the "weak" comment that's what I should do
[19:14] <Beldar> nashant, I have never used a partition for boot so not my area to ask on converting is all.
[19:14] <glitsj16> tripelb2: never used gnome-classic, but you can try nm-applet
[19:14] <Sven_vB> tozen, you're welcome. ;) i just mistypted the acronym the first time.
[19:15] <tozen> Sven_vB: ok
[19:15] <xangua> tripelb2: do you have netgorl-manager-gnome installed¿ or it was gnome-network-manager
[19:15] <zykotick9> tripelb2: does running "nm-applet" bring it up?  or is the whole notification area missing?
[19:16] <nashant> Beldar: fair enough. But you reckon a reinstall is the place to start? Not necessarily to sda, but to sda1
[19:17] <Beldar> nashant, sudo apt-get purge grub-common grub-pc && sudo apt-get install grub  and choose sda1 when asked where
[19:18] <nashant> Beldar: yeah, I'll give it a go
[19:18] <zykotick9> Beldar: do what you want - but seriously, i'd suggest using the MBR sda - why to partition sda1?
[19:19] <Beldar> nashant, You will have a new /etc/default/grub
[19:19] <Beldar> zykotick9, I am not sure on how to move that to the mbr with kernels in sda1, I stated that.
[19:19] <zykotick9> Beldar: sorry, wrong person!
[19:19] <Beldar> hehe
[19:22] <nashant> Beldar: aren't the kernels located out of /boot anyway?
[19:23] <Beldar> nashant, Yes on a mbr setup, not sure with sda1 as a boot, we see people here filling up their boot with to many kernels almost daily.
[19:23] <Beldar> boot partitions that is
[19:24] <zykotick9> nashant: grub has 2 parts, the files are stored on a filesystem, and there is a boot part - which you're currently trying to put in the wrong place sda1, when you should be putting it on sda = the MBR of the drive.  [it's VERY rare you want to use a PBR instead of the MBR]
[19:25] <nashant> I'll try sticking it on sda
[19:25] <nashant> if it goes wrong, I can always live usb and chroot again
[19:25] <Beldar> nashant, I think the boot file is in sda1 not in root is the issue.
[19:25] <D4CH_RPi> yay! installed ubuntu on my laptop.. now I need to learn more linux
[19:27] <Beldar> !yay | D4CH_RPi
[19:27] <tripelb2> zykotick9, I will try.
[19:27] <D4CH_RPi> ;)
[19:28] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, back it up before you break it, if your like the rest of us who tended to do that at the start. ;)
[19:28] <tripelb2> zykotick9, I will try.-- says applet now removed from the notification menu. but it is back. Thanks.
[19:28] <D4CH_RPi> Beldar: back it up how
[19:29] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, I'm a fan of cloning for easy just slipping it back in, but I store very little in the OS
[19:29] <D4CH_RPi> ah yeah okay, I keep important stuff on network drives or usb hdds
[19:30] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, I use clonezilla, but there are built in backups, I have never used them so not sure of there use, keeping track of what you do is good.
[19:32] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, Heh, my ego does not allow me to ask for help, so I clone, however I rarely have a problem, been years really.
[19:33] <D4CH_RPi> haha
[19:33] <D4CH_RPi> if i break something i just reinstall
[19:33] <Okitain> Does anyone know a good video/voice jabber app for Android?
[19:34] <Okitain> ('cept for the upcoming Jitsi, of course)
[19:34] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, I save package lists and any extra repos and keys for reinstalls as well, I like to getter done.
[19:34] <m1sf1t> Hi, just switched my other computer on, which runs ubuntu, and my screen resolution isn't supported! :(
[19:35] <IronMaiden> hi
[19:35] <m1sf1t> it was working absolutely fine yesterday
[19:35] <IronMaiden> anyone installed cuda before
[19:35] <IronMaiden> ?
[19:35] <Beldar> m1sf1t, Proprietary graphic driver?
[19:36] <Beldar> !find cuda
[19:36] <Beldar> IronMaiden, State the issues for help to the channel.
[19:36] <m1sf1t> hmm, i couldn't even tell you what graphics card it has, it was given to me a few days ago with vista on it
[19:37] <Beldar> m1sf1t, When  you installed ubuntu did you load a graphic driver?
[19:37] <IronMaiden> i have a program which uses cuda to run how do I install that?
[19:37] <Rose> Hello xD
[19:37] <Beldar> !cuda
[19:37] <m1sf1t> yeah, I installed an nvidia driver
[19:37] <Beldar> m1sf1t, From where?
[19:38] <m1sf1t> i couldn't tell you the exact model though, unless you know of a command that lists the device name of my graphics?
[19:38] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, you don't have the nvidia utility to check that yourself?
[19:38] <m1sf1t> it was automatic, it just updated it with nvidia drivers
[19:39] <m1sf1t> not that i know of :(
[19:39] <ezra-s> in unity start typing nvidia
[19:39] <IronMaiden> I found this but I dont really know what to do with it https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads
[19:39] <ezra-s> nvidia tool will show up if you have nvidia installed
[19:39] <m1sf1t> ok just a second :)
[19:39] <Beldar> m1sf1t, My questions are related to using the drivers straight from nvidia IE proprietary, they will not follow a kernel upgrade.
[19:39] <ezra-s> IronMaiden if you don't know what to do with it why are you trying to do something with it?
[19:39] <m1sf1t> i've had to load a live cd, in order to even see anything on screen
[19:40] <PresidentObama31> Hi folks.
[19:40] <Beldar> Heh the prez
[19:40] <IronMaiden> ezra one of the programs I want to run requires cuda
[19:40] <PresidentObama31> Hi Beldar.
[19:40]  * Beldar Salutes
[19:40] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, which graphics card do you use?
[19:41] <PresidentObama31> Sargent now?
[19:41] <Beldar> PresidentObama31, Nah half pinhead half conehead. ;)
[19:41] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, /usr/lib/nvidia-settings/bin/nvidia-settings
[19:41] <IronMaiden> ezra-s i don't have a graphics card its a laptop
[19:41] <m1sf1t> thanks, i'll have a look now
[19:42] <Beldar> IronMaiden, server?
[19:42] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, every pc has a graphics card otherwise you would see nothing in the monitor
[19:42] <m1sf1t> i'll get back to you in a sec, live cd is kinda slow
[19:42] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, don't try to scape! :P
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> IronMaiden  try    lspci|grep VGA
[19:42] <IronMaiden> ezra-s its a thinkpad w530
[19:42] <m1sf1t> haha xD
[19:42] <maujhsn> zykotick9 Hi How are you? What is the recommended wait time to ping this ubuntu mirror? <IP_ADDRESS> localhost!
[19:43] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, do what MonkeyDust has asked you
[19:44] <IronMaiden> in the terminal?
[19:44] <IronMaiden> it says 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [Quadro K2000M] (rev a1)
[19:44] <Sven_vB> IronMaiden, yes, a terminal would be helpful to see the output
[19:44] <m1sf1t> ok, i'm in NVIDIA X Server settings
[19:44] <Sven_vB> gratz, you found your graphics card :)
[19:45] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, check the nvidia site to see if that graphics card of yours has cuda cores
[19:45] <ezra-s> Quadro K2000M
[19:45] <ezra-s> cuda is a piece of hardware afaik in nvidia cards
[19:45] <jorman> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
[19:45] <jorman> Version 3.7.86
[19:45] <jorman> By  U D A ' S o f t w a r e
[19:46] <ezra-s> I'm no expert
[19:47] <maujhsn> What is the recommended wait time to ping this ubuntu mirror? <IP_ADDRESS> localhost!
[19:48] <IronMaiden> maujhsn <IP_ADDRESS> is an IP address that means "the computer you are currently on"
[19:48] <IronMaiden> so it is not an ubuntu mirror!
[19:48] <m1sf1t> is there a way to change the screen resolution ubuntu boots into from a live cd?
[19:48] <gordonjcp> jorman: did you have an Ubuntu support question?
[19:48] <m1sf1t> meaning the screen resolution that my installed ubuntu boots into, not what the cd boots into :)
[19:49] <maujhsn> Ironmaiden...Duuhhh Thanks!
[19:49] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, nvidia settings tool can
[19:49] <IronMaiden> ezra-s it says 384 cuda cores
[19:50] <m1sf1t> i have that open atm, but the settings availbale are just things like "enable tooltips" and "display status bar"
[19:50] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, so now that we've checked that you have what you need. Now you need to check the software that requires it and the instructions it tells you
[19:51] <IronMaiden> ezra-s it is cudahashcat+
[19:51] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, that's not #ubuntu :P
[19:51] <IronMaiden> ezra-s what do you mean?
[19:51] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, check if there is an #nvidia channel or for documentation for that
[19:51] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, i don't know anything about it sorry
[19:51] <IronMaiden> i am on ubuntu
[19:52] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, is it an ubuntu tool?
[19:52] <marko> good evening
[19:52] <ezra-s> no
[19:52] <maujhsn> IronMaiden The same would be true for this one as well right? "<IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu"!
[19:52] <IronMaiden> i just need to know how to install cuda
[19:53] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit"
[19:53] <IronMaiden> maujhsn that isnt an ubuntu mirror, where are you getting these?
[19:54] <maujhsn> IronMaiden, /etc/hosts
[19:54] <m1sf1t> IronMaiden, might seem like a daft question, but have you tried apt-cache search cuda, followed by sudo apt-get install *relevant search result here*
[19:54] <IronMaiden> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed:   amd-opencl-icd dkms glx-alternative-mesa glx-alternative-nvidia glx-diversions libcublas4 libcuda1 libcudart4 libcufft4 libcuinj4 libcurand4 libcusparse4 libgl1-nvidia-alternatives libgl1-nvidia-glx   libglx-nvidia-alternatives libnpp4 libnvidia-ml1 libthrust-dev libvdpau-dev libvdpau1 l
[19:54] <marko> greetings from elementary os
[19:54] <ezra-s> maujhsn, don't confuse him more
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> marko  not supported here
[19:54] <marko> i know
[19:55] <IronMaiden> no ezra-s i was telling him something read up
[19:55] <ezra-s> sorry I come and go
[19:55] <IronMaiden> 1 sec
[19:55] <maujhsn> ezra-s "That's not my intention...seriously!"
[19:56]  * ezra-s looks at maujhsn ... :P
[19:56] <m1sf1t> quick question, is there an irc command to not show who joins/leaves the channel? it's hard to read the chat lol
[19:56] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, I don't think it is a command, more like a client option
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> m1sf1t  depends on your client
[19:56] <Beldar> m1sf1t, if you have a gui client usually in preferences.
[19:56] <nacirema> you should be able to turn off joins/parts in your client settings
[19:57] <m1sf1t> hmm, im using irssi cli
[19:57] <maujhsn> ezra-s,  See what you did...you gave the poor guy an overload!
[19:57] <m1sf1t> ill google it ;)
[19:57] <m1sf1t> thanks anyway
[19:57] <nashant> Beldar: I just reinstalled grub with boot-repair and now I'm stuck at grub cli. bootinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6460212/
[19:57] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, good luck
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> m1sf1t  what do you use for irc?
[19:57] <ezra-s> maujhsn, we're trying to help, aren't we
[19:57] <m1sf1t> MonkeyDust: irssi
[19:58] <maujhsn> lol
[19:58] <ezra-s> probably installing that is what he needs
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> m1sf1t  me too, it's   /ignore #ubuntu +joins +quits +modes +parts +nicks
[19:58] <PresidentObama31> Where in Africa is Ubuntu from?
[19:58] <ezra-s> libcuda1 and others in the list
[19:59] <Beldar> nashant, LVM Raid GPT?
[19:59] <m1sf1t> thanks MonkeyDust
[19:59] <ezra-s> MonkeyDust, do you know an equivalent for hexchat by any chance? :)
[19:59] <nashant> Beldar: LVM and GPT
[20:00] <m1sf1t> Miles better :) i can follow the conversation properly now xD
[20:00] <Beldar> nashant, I know nothing about either.
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> ezra-s  no, i'm a one trick pony ;)
[20:00] <ezra-s> MonkeyDust, lol, that's fine
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> ezra-s  that was a joke, but no, i don't know
[20:00] <ezra-s> ;)
[20:00] <PresidentObama31> Southern Africa (South Africa and Zimbabwe),
[20:01] <m1sf1t> I'm just gonna nuke and pave my installation, everything's saved to NAS anyway :)
[20:01] <IronMaiden> thank you ezra-s and anyone else who helped i have it working now :)
[20:01] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, drop it! don't be shy!
[20:01] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, glad to be of help ;)
[20:02] <ezra-s> maujhsn, see? it works now
[20:02] <Beldar> nashant, So you loaded grub to sda right without moving the boot to root I assume?
[20:03] <IronMaiden> if I stay in here all the time will I learn ubuntu by osmosis?
[20:03] <Beldar> nashant, Just a guess on what should be done.
[20:03] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, chances are you might even end up helping someone ;)
[20:03] <IronMaiden> ezra-s well I can already help someone install cuda!
[20:04] <m1sf1t> haha i will do :) it's only been installed a few days so there's nothing to lose :)
[20:04] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, for example :D
[20:04] <maujhsn> IronMaiden,  NO!
[20:04]  * ezra-s slaps maujhsn
[20:04] <maujhsn> Ouch!
[20:05] <IronMaiden> maujhsn I think not knowing what localhost is, is worse than not knowing how to install cuda so.
[20:05] <ezra-s> be nice to newcomers
[20:05] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, nobody was born knowing
[20:05] <maujhsn> Duuuhhh!
[20:05] <IronMaiden> i know I wasnt being entirely serious and neither was maujhsn probably
[20:06] <ezra-s> :P
[20:06] <m1sf1t> localhost is the ip address of your own computer :) so if you were to connect to localhost, the computer would be communicating with itself :)
[20:06] <m1sf1t> so if i was on googles server, and i typed in http://localhost/ it would load google
[20:06] <Beldar> PresidentObama31, not a channel issue this is support but ubuntu is a african social construct
[20:07] <ezra-s> localhost is usually associated with loopback address
[20:07] <maujhsn> mlsfit I don't mind adding a little humor to this room...seriously!
[20:08] <Rory> It depends how quiet it is and how many people are screaming for help at the time
[20:08] <Beldar> can we go lightly on off topic or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic this is support
[20:08] <m1sf1t> haha :)
[20:08] <ezra-s> I new it was coming
[20:08] <ezra-s> k
[20:08] <maujhsn> IronMaiden,  How do i solve this: "W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20130820.1)/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%2012.04.3%20LTS%20%5fPrecise%20Pangolin%5f%20-%20Release%20amd64%20(20130820.1)_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages)"!
[20:09] <IronMaiden> maujhsn i have literally no idea where to start looking
[20:09] <m1sf1t> I have 1.9GB RAM... and 2.6GHz dual core AMD. should i risk 64bit install or do you reckon it's not worth the hassle?
[20:10] <Rory> Risk? Hassle?
[20:10] <maujhsn> IronMaiden,  sudo apt-get update doesn't solve it!
[20:10] <bekks> m1sf1t: Unless you have 32bit CPU, you should use 64bit.
[20:10] <xangua> m1sf1t: 64bit is only worth if you have more than 4GB of ram
[20:10] <Rory> What is this, 2008? m1sf1t you'll be fine with 64
[20:10] <bekks> xangua: Thats nonsense, frankly.
[20:10] <m1sf1t> yeah, i've installed the 64 bit before and it was a pain haha
[20:10] <xangua> bekks: you are nonsense! frankly :P
[20:10] <musikusmasko> hi
[20:11] <randolph`> hi
[20:11] <bekks> xangua: And you are on ignore - personally. You started to get personally. Good bye.
[20:11] <jazzme> hello, I was wondering why Task Manager reports 100% cpu...when the only two processes in double digits is Firefox, 40 % and Task Manager 20% ?
[20:11] <m1sf1t> yeah i've read that you should have 2 or 3 gigs, and that 64 bit is only more efficient if you are doing lots of calculations
[20:11] <Rory> jazzme: what is 40 + 40 + 20 ?
[20:11] <Rory> Oh sorry jazzme I misread that
[20:12] <jazzme> no prob
[20:12] <Rory> jazzme: There is an option to show processes from all users; do things change when you use it?
[20:12] <jazzme> oh...let me see how to turn that on
[20:12] <Rory> jazzme: you can also use the "top" command in the Terminal
[20:12] <ionux> jazzme: there's got to be another process you aren't seeing.  open up a terminal and use the 'top' command.
[20:12] <nashant> Beldar: yup, that's what I did
[20:13] <bekks> m1sf1t: Having a 64bit CPU and using a 32bit OS is wasting 50% of the resources you have.
[20:13] <m1sf1t> have you tried switching it off and on again? haha :D
[20:13] <m1sf1t> good point bekks
[20:13] <Rory> bekks: Was that a serious statement?
[20:13] <bekks> Rory: Yes.
[20:13] <Rory> OK
[20:14] <bekks> Rory: Its like the ancient myth that free RAM is good RAM. Free RAM is wasted RAM.
[20:14] <Rory> bekks: Free RAm is *potential* to do stuff
[20:14] <m1sf1t> yeah, it's like having an empty desk
[20:14] <picca> Free RAM is usually used for buffering
[20:14] <bekks> Rory: Free RAM is unused and thus wasted.
[20:14] <jazzme> hmmm..what is Xorg?  30% cpu
[20:14] <Beldar> nashant, Well, I mentioned that so, probably fixable, you have to start researching what your doing rather then acting on instinct.
[20:15] <bekks> picca: free RAM is free RAM. Used RAM may be used by buffers.
[20:15] <TomyWork> jazzme, oh it's unimportant. just some thing that displays all the graphics on screen
[20:15] <m1sf1t> id rather have free ram than using loads of swap :)
[20:15] <Rory> jazzme: xorg is the display server which draws to the screen. Are you running Unity in 2d mode?
[20:15] <jazzme> not sure
[20:15] <bekks> m1sf1t: I'd rather have 100% RAM used and lower swappiness...
[20:15] <Rory> jazzme: What graphics hardware do you have? If you don't know, use the command: "lspci | grep VGA"
[20:16] <picca> bekks: yup, free ram is usually used for buffering
[20:16] <jazzme> unfortunately I have to leave...but will return in a while.
[20:16] <bekks> picca: yeah.
[20:16] <Rory> jazzme: No problem
[20:16] <Rory> I'll be here, it's Friday night where else would I be?
[20:16] <m1sf1t> bekks: aye :) but with free ram, wouldn't there be no need for swappiness?
[20:16] <bekks> m1sf1t: Swappiness is not what you think it is...
[20:17] <nashant> Beldar: booted to live usb and ran boot-repair, everything's working!
[20:17] <bekks> m1sf1t: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness
[20:17] <Rory> "swappiness" isn't a word you just made up m1sf1t it is a specific thing to do with how aggresive the kernel pages out
[20:17] <m1sf1t> bekks: have i got the wrong end of the stick lol?
[20:17] <m1sf1t> bekks: i thought that swappiness was like extra virtual ram for when there was no ram? am i wrong?
[20:18] <Rory> m1sf1t: That's just called "swap"
[20:18] <bekks> m1sf1t: You are wrong. I just gave you a link. :)
[20:18] <m1sf1t> just opening it now :)
[20:18] <Calinou> Rory, some games can cause xorg to use a lot of CPU
[20:18] <Calinou> or some buggy programs
[20:18] <Hassen> lmfao...can't finish one page of any IT book that I start reading..ffs
[20:18] <picca> i like what OS X is doing by compressing memory used by apps that are idle before swapping ... do you think Linux will do something similar
[20:18] <Beldar> nashant, Cool, so look into moving that boot partiton info if needed to have mbr boot if you want, I never use that tool but it does help many.
[20:18] <m1sf1t> there's a difference between swap and swappiness? i thought swap was short for swappiness lol
[20:19] <bekks> picca: Linux already has the ability to compress pages... :)
[20:19] <bekks> m1sf1t: There is.
[20:19] <picca> bekks: ah didn't realise that
[20:19] <Rory> picca: Yes, the next kernel 3.14 has a feature for almost exactly that, I read it on Phoronix this morning
[20:19] <bekks> 3.11 already had.
[20:19] <m1sf1t> bekks: brb just reading this wikipedia article
[20:19] <bekks> And the next kernel will be 3.13 ;)
[20:20] <Rory> bekks: 3.13 is out...?
[20:20] <bekks> Rory: Not according to www.kernel.org
[20:20] <Rory> bekks: Isn't it? or am I confused again.
[20:20] <bekks> Rory: The current kernel is 3.12.1
[20:20] <Rory> Oh that's right, it's League of Legends which is 3.13 (no seriously, that is the mistake I just made)
[20:21] <Rory> No that's 3.14 now as well. Oh i don't even know. Anyway kernel 3.14 has some kind of cool compressed memory feature
[20:21] <TomyWork> i'm having trouble with pam. something is overwriting my password with "INCORRECT". any ideas?
[20:23] <m1sf1t> bekks: i'm still struggling to understand swappiness lol, i'll be sure to read up on it
[20:23] <BluesKaj> bekks. what setting do recommend for swappiness on systen with 3gRAM and dual core cpu ?
[20:23] <SBoudrias> Hey, I'm trying to install a newer version of Nginx. Everything goes well, apt-get report installing and setting the good version without error. But after the process, runnning nginx -v still report the old version... Any idea what is going on?
[20:23] <m1sf1t> anyone care to define swappiness suitable for the layman?
[20:23] <bekks> m1sf1t: swappiness defines the urge to swap. If set to 0, swap will be used only to keep the system alive. Set to 100, its like "swap as you can" :)
[20:24] <randolph`> SBoudrias: have you tried restarting nginx?
[20:24] <SBoudrias> randolph`: Yeah, multiple times
[20:24] <maokaii> is it possible to install wine on the live boot of ubuntu 12.04?
[20:24] <maokaii> "try" not install
[20:24] <m1sf1t> bekks: so when it does swap, i presume it's swapping the least important or oldest memory? so that the more frequently used stuff is more readily available?
[20:25] <bekks> m1sf1t: So you get the most benefit when almost all your RAM is used, for applications, for buffers, etc. and you system will only swap to keep the system alive.
[20:25] <SBoudrias> randolph`: running "service nginx restart" - right?
[20:25] <bekks> m1sf1t: Correct.
[20:25] <randolph`> yeah
[20:25] <m1sf1t> bekks: that makes more sense now :D thanks very much!
[20:25] <randolph`> Are you sure it restarted?
[20:25] <BluesKaj> bekks. default seems to be 60 , is that an arbitrary value for all installs or is it set by the API / Hardware detection ?
[20:26] <hydruid> randolph`: read that as retarded lol
[20:26] <SBoudrias> randolph`: it reported me "Restarting nginx: nginx."
[20:26] <bekks> BluesKaj: It the default defined in the kernel when no other value is set.
[20:26] <randolph`> hmm, im not sure, i don't really use nginx myself, sorry
[20:26] <Rory> BluesKaj: It's also a perfectly sensible value. I'm of the opinion of stuff like swappiness, that if you needed to change it, you'd already know what you need to change it to
[20:27] <SBoudrias> randolph`: I'll try restarting the server
[20:27] <randolph`> ok
[20:27] <SBoudrias> randolph`: Haven't worked
[20:27] <Rory> Also that old adage of what to do when things aint broke
[20:27] <m1sf1t> bekks: so before, you mentioned that there is a difference between swap and swappiness. is swap the partition that this data is stored on, and swappiness the feature that controls RAM?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> Rory. yes I suppose since , I've rarely seen it used in system monitor on this pc
[20:28] <maokaii> m1sf1t: I read your guide http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ for multiboot on a usb, this will help me install ubuntu to a usb drive?
[20:28] <bekks> m1sf1t: swap space is where you memory swaps to :)
[20:29] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i didn't write that :)
[20:29] <Beldar> maokaii, full install or loading  ISO?
[20:29] <bekks> m1sf1t: And swappiness controls how fast you memory will swap to the swap space.
[20:29] <m1sf1t> bekks: gotcha :) the more you know ;)
[20:29] <SBoudrias> randolph`: I tried uninstalling nginx with apt-get, seems to have removed the new installation, not the old one...
[20:30] <SBoudrias> randolph`: Is it possible there's two version installed and the old one is taking precedence
[20:30] <maokaii> Beldar: I was told I need to "install" ubuntu in order to install wine, instead of "try" so I guess full install but I'd like it to be on a usb flash drive
[20:30] <m1sf1t> maokaii: install unetbootin, you can choose from a drop down box of OSs put on a bootable usb, or select your own .iso
[20:31] <Beldar> maokaii, You need an install medium a dvd/cd/usb to install to the usb, a usb flash is not the better option than an internal HD though.
[20:31] <xangua> maokaii: you mean to use the live iso on a usb stick or make a full install on a usb stick¿ with multiboot you can either just load the iso or make a persistent install
[20:32] <mguy> Who decided to enable sticky edges on displays by default
[20:32] <maokaii> xangua: I want to do a full install on a usb stick , its crazy I know but its the best option for me right now
[20:32] <mguy> Almost always makes me think my mouse is screwey
[20:32] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i agree with Beldar, a HD is much faster than a USB stick, but USB sticks are definately better for portability
[20:32] <creek> Hai!
[20:32] <maokaii> m1sf1t:  yes I need the portability
[20:33] <maokaii> m1sf1t:  especially because I think my hdd is screwed
[20:33] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i'd install unetbootin, you can get it on apt-get. it makes life so much easier :)
[20:33] <m1sf1t> maokaii: have you run any scans on your HD?
[20:34] <maokaii> m1sf1t:  not yet trying to install all of ubuntu on a flash drive first
[20:34] <maokaii> m1sf1t: alright so ill do sudo apt-get install unetbootin ?
[20:34] <mguy> It's just another disk really
[20:35] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i see. Yeah use that command. note: it runs in X, not cli (as far as i know)
[20:35] <shroomduke> lsb_release -a gives me "core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:..." what is all this info?
[20:35] <maokaii> m1sf1t:  no idea what you mean by X and not cli :p
[20:36] <m1sf1t> maokaii: it uses the graphical interface, point and click :) not in a shell, or cmomand line interface
[20:36] <xangua> m1sf1t: maokaii unetbootin will just load the live iso in the usb, but there are several guides to make a persisten install to a usb stick; you can use multisystem for example http://i.imgur.com/38dwkQ1.png
[20:36] <hydruid> m1sf1t: what is the mystical graphical interface you speak of
[20:37] <picca> lol @ hydruid
[20:38] <xangua> multisystem also doesn't need you to format the usb stick m1sf1t maokaii
[20:38] <maokaii> xangua: would you mind helping me run through that to get it setup on a usb?
[20:38] <Rory> hydruid: He means like ncurses but even shinier
[20:38] <m1sf1t> hydruid: for example in windows, you have a start menu, different windows and stuff, that's a graphical user interface, or GUI for short. And a command line interface is just text on a screen where you type commands and press enter :)
[20:38] <hydruid> Rory: wow......
[20:38] <xangua> maokaii: as you read in the guide about multisystem you just have to run the script
[20:38] <Beldar> xangua, multisystem does and it is picky on its fat32 partitioning.
[20:38] <hydruid> m1sf1t: LOL yes I kknow.....it's Friday and I was being funny
[20:39] <picca> it's all too clever for me
[20:39] <shroomduke> command line interface = terminal
[20:39] <maokaii> xangua: yes but how do I do the process to install ubuntu onto the usb
[20:39] <maokaii> xangua:  not just a live boot
[20:39] <m1sf1t> hydruid: haha oh right :) you never know! some people don't know these things :D
[20:39] <hydruid> m1sf1t: True that!
[20:39] <xangua> Beldar: really¿ well I just format to fat32 anyways for windows
[20:40] <hydruid> I think some people don't know what Google is either
[20:40] <Rory> maokaii: There's info on a persistent USb install here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[20:40] <picca> what is this Google you speak of
[20:40] <m1sf1t> hydruid: Friday though... on the vodka tonight! (don't judge, i'm english, it's in our nature)
[20:40] <Rory> picca: It's like AlterVista but with a catchier name so it stuck around longer
[20:40] <hydruid> picca: it's a special place you put in questions and you can find the answers!
[20:40] <xangua> maokaii: really¿ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Drag-and-Drop-ISO.png
[20:41] <picca> Rory: now that takes me back
[20:41] <urielvigilant> how to play a normal comercial DVD ? Iám with Lubuntu 13.10 and i have Lubuntu restricted extras and also i actually installed VLC, but i dont know what to do to play the DVD , how to ?
[20:41] <shroomduke> Google is the god of internet search
[20:41] <picca> hydruid: must try it
[20:41] <shroomduke> do not anger the Google
[20:41] <maokaii> xangua:  what :p
[20:41] <Rory> urielvigilant: Do you get an error when you try to play the DVD in VLC?
[20:41] <xangua> maokaii: drag and drop... ;)
[20:41] <hydruid> urielvigilant: Open VLC and tell it to open the DVD
[20:41] <Beldar> xangua, yeah me to, I just found it to really only be happy with a gparted or windows made fat, the disks made are not seen, not sure if a cli made is fine for it.
[20:41] <maokaii> xangua:  I thought that was for only a live boot
[20:41] <picca> time to try google brb
[20:41] <urielvigilant> Rory, i dont know what file to open on the DVD
[20:41] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i think just putting the ubuntu iso onto a usb would work fine, as any installs etc. would be saved to the stick? forgive me if i'm wrong :)
[20:42] <Rory> urielvigilant: Go to VLC then media -> open disk
[20:42] <Rory> urielvigilant: Or when you insert the DVD now you have the restricted-extras installed, you should get some sort of popup asking what you want to do (maybe, I don't know how it is in Lubuntu)
[20:43] <xangua> maokaii: and then I pasted an image of my desktop where you can see a button to make it a persistent install (persistente) multyboot really makes all the job for you but you can also follow the persisten install wiki if you want to learn :)
[20:43] <Beldar> m1sf1t, a ISO Load with a persistent has some limitations, the persistent can't be cleaned, and in the end it is reading the ISO, some limitations on what extras can really be installed
[20:44] <m1sf1t> xangua: that could work, load a live CD, then install to usb?
[20:44] <urielvigilant> Rory: open a window with errors ! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6460495/
[20:44] <maokaii> xangua: maybe in the future ill learn but the multiboot seems like my friend right now :p
[20:44] <m1sf1t> Beldar: ahh, fair enough :) i've never done that before
[20:45] <hydruid> !French | urielvigilant
[20:45] <Rory> !italian | actually hydruid
[20:45] <hydruid> !Wrong-Person | Rory
[20:45] <Rory> urielvigilant: That is an error reading from the disk drive. Do you have any problems reading other DVDs?
[20:45] <Beldar> m1sf1t, Interesting thing about a persistent is that you can have a big usb and make an extra partition that is persistent way bigger than the 4 gig offered in the usb installers,
[20:46] <xangua> actually portuguese Rory hydruid
[20:46] <hydruid> xangua: Rory: actually chinese
[20:46] <Rory> Oh well we all are awful at identifying languages
[20:46] <m1sf1t> Beldar: what do you mean by persistent? am iso image?
[20:46] <geekmasterflash> Rory: Does that bot have Klingon?
[20:46] <urielvigilant> ROry:  another problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/6460517/
[20:46] <Rory> urielvigilant: If you have another DVD to try with, see if it gives the same error
[20:47] <Rory> geekmasterflash: No because there's no Klingon-localised Ubuntu support channel.
[20:47] <urielvigilant> ROry , ok i will try with another .
[20:47] <geekmasterflash> Rory: Tragic.
[20:47] <Beldar> m1sf1t, he persistent called a casper-rw allows you to add things to a ISO loaded usb and reboot and have it saved.
[20:47] <Beldar> the*
[20:47] <hydruid> !Klingon | Rory
[20:48] <maokaii> xangua: okay, using the guide I gave awhile ago. I install multiboot, then I download the desired ubuntu version from ubuntu.com I plug in another usb flash drive that I want to have the install of ubuntu on, I choose it, and then I move the ISO i downloaded from ubuntu onto it and choose persistant?
[20:49] <m1sf1t> Beldar: ahh ok :)
[20:49] <Crisis_> unable to contact kded anyone have any ideas
[20:50] <Rory> !details | Crisis_
[20:50] <xangua> maokaii: yes, easy peasy
[20:50] <xangua> Crisis_: about what¿
[20:50] <maokaii> xangua:  then I restart my system, and boot from the one its installed on probably?
[20:50] <Crisis_> \leave
[20:51] <m1sf1t> cya Crisis :)
[20:51] <geekmasterflash> Crisis_: http://kdepepo.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/troubleshooting-kded4-bugs/
[20:52] <urielvigilant> I can  play asimply original DVD movie on my Lubuntu 13.10
[20:52] <urielvigilant> I can  play asimply original DVD movie on my Lubuntu 13.10
[20:52] <urielvigilant> I can not   play asimply original DVD movie on my Lubuntu 13.10
[20:52] <xangua> maokaii: you also need at least 4BG free space for a persistent install minimun
[20:53] <Beldar> urielvigilant, You install the lubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:53] <maokaii> xangua:  yeah its 32 gb :)
[20:53] <xangua> !dvd | urielvigilant did you install the script mentioned here¿
[20:53] <urielvigilant> Beldar , yes i did !
[20:53] <Rory> urielvigilant: Try this: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:53] <Beldar> urielvigilant, take a look at the bots dvd info, some dvd's have problems in the end though so be aware of this.
[20:54] <m1sf1t> Nuke and pave complete :)
[20:54] <Rory> m1sf1t: Now you just need to do the holy trinity of Ubuntu usability enhancements: Full-hinting font smoothing, disable edge-snapping, and shrink the dock
[20:55] <jubale> Anyone know a good software for converting having computer type what I say for me?
[20:56] <Beldar> jubale, Can you say that in a way that makes sense.
[20:56] <m1sf1t> Rory: yepp :)
[20:56] <m1sf1t> juabale: do you mean text to speech?
[20:56] <jubale> Speak into microphone, software does the typing for you.
[20:56] <Beldar> ah text to speech doh
[20:56] <m1sf1t> jubale: oh, the other way around haha
[20:56] <jubale> No, speech to text.
[20:57] <lmat> I am creating a script that should be run by cron now and then. Where should I put it and its configuration ?
[20:57] <m1sf1t> jubale: a bit like siri on iphone?
[20:57] <lmat> ~ doesn't seem like the right place because it's ... computer-wide
[20:57] <jubale> Maybe, I've never had an iPhone.
[20:58] <m1sf1t> jubale: me neither lol, android ftw :D
[20:58] <tozen> guys is it possible to reinstall unity using livecd without network?
[20:58] <m1sf1t> jubvale: this isn't really the relevant place to ask, but i'd just google speech to text :)
[20:58] <jubale> I've a friend who got Windows Phone because she knew Windows. Then, realized Android may've been better because phone works different. lol
[20:59] <m1sf1t> jubale: is it windows RT? i've never used it.
[21:00] <jubale> I don't know.
[21:02] <m1sf1t> jubale: ah, android is great though :) it functions more like a computer rather than a social networking device :)
[21:04] <m1sf1t> brb, swapping computers
[21:04] <jubale> Yeah. I found changes to Skype to be VERY annoying, however, that is for Windows 8 desktop.
[21:04] <jubale> It would help if Google, Microsoft, etc. would stop thinking they have to own everything good.
[21:05] <geekmasterflash> jubale: Or even owning the not so good, in the case of Microsoft.
[21:06] <m1sf1t> back
[21:06] <jubale> Microsoft and Google want to own everything that is well known.
[21:07] <m1sf1t> jubale: i've heard speak of an ubuntu smartphone OS, what does anybody know about this?
[21:07] <jubale> I wouldn't find owning a few dozen companies, but seriously.
[21:07] <jubale> mind*
[21:07] <jubale> Ubuntu for smartphones exists.
[21:08] <m1sf1t> jubale: o_0 do you know if it's any good?
[21:08] <jubale> I've never tried, but little bit of reading I had done said it was in early (but stable) stage and growing popularity.
[21:09] <jubale> I don't think it's actually an OS, I think it's probably more like adding KDE to Ubuntu.
[21:10] <jubale> And, wtf do we need droid sans font for desktop?
[21:10] <tommy__> Hello, I have a clean xubuntu 12.04 install and updated it fully. I installed the xubuntu restrcited extras  but flash is not working in firefox. On the about:plugins page i see 2 flash related entries.: shockwave flash and future splash. the reported flashversion of firefox is 11.2.r202 . But the flash test page still sais a plugin is needed to play flash (pages like youtube also dont work)
[21:10] <m1sf1t> jubale: so basically an x environment for phones/tablets?
[21:11] <m1sf1t> jubale: does ubuntu even work on ARM processors?
[21:11] <Rory> !arm | m1sf1t
[21:12] <m1sf1t> ubottu: that's why i was wondering, surely ubuntu would only work on intel architecture?
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> lol
[21:13] <m1sf1t> hahaahaha
[21:14] <m1sf1t> ubottu seems nice :D
[21:14] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  In Ubuntu Software Center, when I click "Buy..." on a program, it loads up the "payment center".  THIS is what it loads: http://imgur.com/g1jGX7j
[21:15] <m1sf1t> Rory: you got me :P
[21:16] <jubale> I couldn't tell you. Frankly, I'm not very technical about mobile. I got my first smart phone only a year ago.
[21:17] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: Try sudo apt-get install bibletime
[21:18] <m1sf1t> jubale: fair enough, i really want to get this ubuntu smartphone OS though :D i wonder if it will work on my old iPhone 3GS...
[21:18] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: I had a strange issue with fonts, and downloading that package including several fonts packages that fixed my issue
[21:18] <jazzme> hello again...I have just 3 processes running @ 100 cpu...Xorg - 34%, FF 32% and Task Manager20 %...seems kind of high for just 3.
[21:18] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: okay.  installing now.
[21:18] <jazzme> any ideas?
[21:19] <m1sf1t> jazzme: restarted computer? spt-get update and upgrade?
[21:19] <geekmasterflash> jazzme: Task manager is a processor hog, which tends to cause xorg to also go into overtime
[21:19] <geekmasterflash> jazzme: What's your processor?
[21:20] <Kurvivor> Hello! I am trying to make my printer accessible from my windows laptop, which is in the same local network
[21:20] <geekmasterflash> jazzme: On my dual core 2 Ghz machine it wasn't uncommon to see that level of usage when running task manager
[21:20] <Kurvivor> And i have run into a hurdle: how do i figure out the adressoof the printer for clients to connect to?
[21:21] <Kurvivor> I can see printer in  cups web interface
[21:21] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: log in to your router's gateway, it should list all devices connected to your LAN
[21:21] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: Is the printer connected to your PC via a USB cable or is it networked via ethernet?
[21:22] <Kurvivor> mlsflit: printer isn't connected to LAN; it is USB
[21:22] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: sorry, i presumed it was connected via LAN
[21:22] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: Then it has no ip address
[21:22] <Kurvivor> well, can it not be made accessible anyway?
[21:22] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: You have to pray that it appears as a network resource when you tell windows to share it
[21:23] <buchstabensalat_> I want to use 2 500gb drives to backup the content of a 1tb drive. by backup I mean mirroring, I don't have space for more fancy backups, and don't have money to buy additional space. I'm not sure how to go about distributing the data to the 2 drives. a 1tb logical volume would be convenient, but what if one of the drives fails? is there a way to recover the other half of my data from the other drive? if not, any other sugg
[21:23] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: um.. I installed 'bibletime'.  Still doesn't load the text.  However, I decided to look up "bibletime" on the software center.  It's an "easy-to-use bible study tool".  Was this a prank or something?  Or does this program bibletime really download fonts?
[21:23] <Kurvivor> i mean, that's what printing server is for?
[21:23] <Kurvivor> isn't it?
[21:23] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: You will want Samba on your linux box that's trying to use it
[21:23] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: But, windows sharing being what it is... good luck
[21:23] <jazzme> I don't even know...it is an old Dell single cpu 2 gig max ram
[21:23] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: It includes the core fonts packages
 printer is connected to linux pc, and windows is a client here
[21:24] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: So if it didnt help, then your issue wasn't a core fonts problem
[21:24] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: ok lol.
[21:24] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: any other ideas?
[21:24] <m1sf1t> geekmasterflash: don't even get me started on samba, it stopped my dpkg from working on ubuntu, had to purge it to get everything working fine again :(
[21:24] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: What DE are you using?
[21:24] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: ?
[21:25] <jazzme> someone mentioned something about unity 2D?
[21:25] <Kurvivor> geekmasterflash: i  do have samba installed
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: DE = Desktop enviroment
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: Gnome, KDE< Unity...
[21:25] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: oh.  Unity
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: Have you changed fonts in unity tweak?
[21:26] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: yeah I think.. possibly not
[21:26] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: does your router have a USB port? you might have an easier time with that
[21:26] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: Find out. Also, did you install a unity theme that included white/dark backgrounds?
[21:27] <Kurvivor> geekmasterflash: stuck in the beginning; how do i add system-config-printer to the menu?
[21:27] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: no.  also, I don't have any program called "unity tweak"
[21:27] <Kurvivor> mlsflt: sadly, no
[21:27] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: Try... sudo apt-get install system-config-printer
[21:27] <jazzme> I closed down firefox...and now the CPU% is in the single digits.
[21:28] <jazzme> that is a bummer...I like watching youtube videos with FF.
[21:28] <wafflejockTablet> jazzme: yeah old CPUs don't like the HD video
[21:29] <xvzf> hi there, on Ubuntu 13.04 I the sound system always switch sound input to LINE IN instead of the headset, which is plugged in as a microphone. Where can I set microphone as the default sound input?
[21:29] <wafflejockTablet> Loaded up xubuntu on a dell c600 it just crashes flash when you get to youtube
[21:29] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: damn :( looks like you're gonna have to try your luck with samba. note: if after installing samba, apt-get starts spitting error messages at you, purge samba. i had that problem
[21:30] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: mine was samba4, you could try a different version if that happens
[21:30] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: should I download unity tweak? (since I don't have it)
[21:30] <Kurvivor> geekmasterflash: apt-get tells me i already have latest system-config-printer-gnome; still no administration in settings or server menu in printers
[21:30] <wafflejockTablet> Xvzf ordinarily in the system settings for sound if that doesn't work out u may want to try alsamixer in alsa-utils
[21:31] <wafflejockTablet> Boneheads1999: if u want to tweak unity yes
[21:31] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: I'm not sure that it will without samba installed
[21:31] <Boneheads1999> wafflejockTablet: look http://imgur.com/g1jGX7j
[21:31] <Kurvivor> geekmasterflash: but i have "Share printers connected to this system" set in CUPS web interface, though
[21:31] <tommy__> hello people. I have the adobe flash plugin installed (ubutnu 12.04) but the browser dont see it. They report it as being used in the about:plugin pages but it just wont load
[21:31] <Kurvivor> mlsflit: i have samba installed
[21:31] <Boneheads1999> wafflejockTablet: that's the screen I get after I click "buy..." on ubuntu software center
[21:31] <wafflejockTablet> Boneheads1999: hmm I see
[21:32] <wafflejockTablet> So missing some labels and the like?
[21:32] <Boneheads1999> yeah
[21:32] <Kurvivor> mlsflt: at some point i realised i have no idea how i would connect from the client. I mean, i need an url or name for that. Where do i get/set that?
[21:33] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: oh, ok you need to look at /etc/samba/smb.conf and set that file up so that your printer can be shared over the network :)
[21:33] <knadyy> damn this girl has a nice pussy http://instaflurt.com/yuribalbin/
[21:33] <jazzme> thanks for the help.
[21:33] <wafflejockTablet> Strange perhaps playing with themes or the like will help haven't dug into unity tweak too much but when I have used it all good
[21:35] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: it will be an example configuration by default, explaining how to configure samba
[21:35] <dgarstang3> I use to create a response file to install a package and say yes when prompted about overwriting a config file...
[21:36] <xvzf> wafflejockTablet, at settings->sound I do not have the option to set things for default, only for the sake of the moment. And then it reverts back to LINE IN. Alsamixer does not influence this
[21:36] <wafflejockTablet> xvzf: perhaps try pavucontrol sorry your right about alsa
[21:37] <wafflejockTablet> xvzf: using kubuntu here so the audio settings panel is different
[21:37] <wafflejockTablet> Well actually on a nexus 10 ATM but using KDE regularly
[21:38] <Iulia> Hello everyone! Please, can anyone give me a link with a good guide of how to make compatible aplications of 32 bits in 64 bits? I have 13.10 64 bits. Many thanks!!
[21:39] <m1sf1t> Iulia: the program has to be specifically written for 64 bit architecture. YOu won't be able to just compile it as 64 bit.
[21:40] <Iulia> oh...thanks then
[21:40] <m1sf1t> Iulia: no problem :) maybe it's worth having a look if there is a 64 bit release
[21:41] <Iulia> Seems that no..Thans for your time
[21:42] <m1sf1t> Iulia: not a problem :) you're very polite :)
[21:43] <wafflejockTablet> Gotta say that was the most polite irc chat I've seen in weeks :)
[21:44] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: I have to go now, hope you manage to get your printer set up over the network :)
[21:45] <m1sf1t> wafflejockTablet: haha xD manners don't cost a thing :) except maybe a few keystrokes
[21:45] <robierob> guys how would i load up ubuntu with out  a desktop enviroment
[21:45] <Lenny> is anyone using latest fglrx-updates experiencing bad performance while playing games?  (13.10)
[21:45] <Beldar> robierob, Load from a install, or install without a desktop?
[21:45] <m1sf1t> Bye everyone, peace :)
[21:46] <Iulia> byeee
[21:46] <wafflejockTablet> m1sf1t: peace
[21:46] <robierob> i guess...comand line interface but no desktop
[21:46] <wafflejockTablet> robierob: u want the server install
[21:46] <Beldar> robierob, On a install already there on on a install?
[21:46] <Beldar> or*
[21:47] <robierob> well i am trying to build my own distro if that helps
[21:47] <Beldar> robierob, he not really but carry on, hehe.
[21:47] <Beldar> well*
[21:47] <robierob> i want to make a xubuntu studio/ version with my own programs i want
[21:48] <robierob> instead of everthing that comes with ubuntu studio
[21:48] <Beldar> robierob, You could do a net install of just the base than add what you want.
[21:49] <robierob> ...how?
[21:49] <wafflejockTablet> True minimal install cd
[21:49] <Beldar> robierob, what release?
[21:49] <robierob> ummm.... yeah?
[21:49] <Kurvivor> m1sf1t: thanks!
[21:50] <Hai_Karate> robierob - check this out. Its a base system install.  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[21:50] <robierob> well stable would be nice....and not having to compile anything
[21:50] <wafflejockTablet> robierob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:50] <Hai_Karate> I did the min cd and it worked great!
[21:50] <robierob> ok ....i also need the realtime kernal
[21:51] <creek> Shuld I move to OpenBSD?
[21:51] <wafflejockTablet> Yeah did one too was pretty fun, makes me want to try arch but just getting comfy with dpkg still
[21:51] <xangua> creek: that's up to you
[21:51] <Hai_Karate> after the base install just add what you want.
[21:51] <geekmasterflash> creek: Is there some feature of -BSD that you want that isn't implimented elsewhere?
[21:52] <creek> Oh crap.. wrong channel..
[21:52] <geekmasterflash> creek: Otherwise, "should" is irrelevant
[21:52] <geekmasterflash> creek: Want to, however
[21:52] <creek> sorry, I was on #freebsd just now, I using BSD already.. :P
[21:52] <arooni-mobile> trying to use xmodmap but when i have this in my .xmodmap file: "keycode 0x94 = Shift_L NoSymbol NoSymbol NoSymbol"  it doesnt seem to do anything.  ideas?
[21:53] <robierob> i see looks god like something i was looking for but didnt know it....
[21:53] <reisio> it's not ~/.xmodmaprc ?
[21:53] <Hai_Karate> I did a LFS install but ran into probs with wireless, then switched ti minCD command line and was much happier
[21:54] <robierob> yeah....?....my dream here is to custom roll....but still have realtime kernal and no compiling...
[21:54] <wafflejockTablet> Just did it for a c600 cause all I had was dual layer DVDs it couldn't read or CD so minimal was the only option but getting xubuntu installed was pretty easy
[21:54] <Hai_Karate> Min CD is simple, fast, and boots to a command line. log in and go from there.
[21:54] <Beldar> robierob, The mini/net install is nice as it loads the latest of whatever release you install.
[21:54] <Hai_Karate> yep
[21:55] <robierob> hmmmm ok and which link was that you pointed me too...?
[21:55] <robierob> there was 2
[21:56] <Beldar> robierob, Take a look at Hai_Karate's link it has nice graphics of the actual install and links to the other link posted.
[21:56] <wafflejockTablet> The one I sent is for Ubuntu minimal https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:56] <wafflejockTablet> No instructions there really just isos
[21:57] <sarvesh> Hello everybody
[21:57] <wafflejockTablet> Hello sarvesh
[21:57] <Nomo> Hail sarvesh
[21:57] <robierob> well i can get around with terminal ok....so i think this is what i want thanks guys....do you have time for a few more troubleshooting things?
[21:58] <sarvesh> hey can anyone suggest me how to get started with this gsoc thing
[21:58] <wafflejockTablet> The channel is always here :)
[21:58] <sarvesh> thanks, i'm here first time
[21:58] <Hai_Karate> I installed the iceWM for kicks but took it off after 5 min haha
[21:58] <picca> i wish windowmaker was still maintained
[21:59] <robierob> ok i cant get steam to run after installing last night and team fortress wont work......
[21:59] <geekmasterflash> robierob: When you run steam from command, what does it say?
[21:59] <robierob> lets see
[21:59] <wafflejockTablet> sarvesh: not sure what u mean generally this channel is just Ubuntu support, are u having a problem with Ubuntu?
[22:00] <Nomo> sarvesh: Nevr heard of gsoc, this is for Ubuntu help
[22:00] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[22:00] <sarvesh> nomo: google summer of code..
[22:00] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone tell me a good article to search the max network speed of a wireless card? Shopping for a new laptop and curious about this
[22:00] <Wiz_KeeD> saw some letters at the end b g c whatever
[22:01] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm assuming there are different max speeds
[22:01] <Hai_Karate> n
[22:01] <sarvesh> but anyways i found channel for it, thanks
[22:01] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: ##hardware or ##networking would be a more appropriate place to ask.
[22:01] <Wiz_KeeD> I trust linuxers XD
[22:01] <robierob> well dosent look good....lol  http://pastebin.com/xF4i7xnb
[22:02] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: then try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:02] <Nomo> sarvesh: cool, was about to recommend #learnprogramming
[22:03] <Dan9311> Im trying to install a adobe flash plugin for chromium, I dont know how to install. Im running ubuntu saucy.
[22:03] <wafflejockTablet> Wiz_KeeD: they we're basically b then g then a then n, there's also dual band n but both router and receiver must support to take advantage
[22:03] <alkamid> Hi. I have a laptop (Lenovo T61) and a monitor (Dell Ultrasharp 23''). The monitor worked out of the box, but stopped today (possibly after a software upgrade?). I can configure it to display in lower resolutions, but not in its native 1920x1080. Tried going back from nvidia drivers to nouveau - didn't help
[22:03] <sarvesh> nomo: thanks
[22:03] <wafflejockTablet> Dan9311: should be built in u check about:plugins in the browser
[22:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Idk what wireless card my laptop has wafflejockTablet but it's limited to 2mb/s always :(
[22:03] <robierob> it was working last night then i tried to install the drivers for opengl to work... now all this crap... steam wont load now and team fortress still dosent work
[22:04] <Wiz_KeeD> and that's a big bummer
[22:04] <robierob> yup...lol
[22:04] <robierob> i havent been able to kill anything in weeks....   :(
[22:05] <Nomo> Wiz_KeeD: that sucks indeed
[22:05] <wafflejockTablet> Wiz_KeeD: shouldn't be the case wireless b is at 11 mbps
[22:05] <Wiz_KeeD> Nomo, shouldn't it go a bit higher?
[22:05] <Wiz_KeeD> Linux and Windows alike, max 2mb/s
[22:05] <wafflejockTablet> G at 54
[22:05] <Dan9311> wafflejockTablet: Nope, just checked.
[22:05] <robierob> geekmasterflash: what do you think
[22:05] <wafflejockTablet> Mbps is not MBps keep in mind
[22:06] <OerHeks> 2 mb ~ 11 mbit
[22:06] <wafflejockTablet> Factor of 8
[22:06] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Sorry, I was on a phone call. Can you tell me what it said again?
[22:06] <robierob> pastebin    http://pastebin.com/xF4i7xnb
[22:06] <Wiz_KeeD> soo it's limisted to 2mb
[22:06] <wafflejockTablet> Wiz_KeeD: new adapter for $10 from monoprice
[22:07] <Wiz_KeeD> adapter? to place inside the laptop?
[22:07] <wafflejockTablet> Small usb
[22:07] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Ouch
[22:07] <robierob> yup!
[22:07] <geekmasterflash> robierob: What graphics card do you use?
[22:07] <Dan9311> Im trying to install a adobe flash plugin for chromium, I dont know how to install. Im running ubuntu saucy.
[22:07] <robierob> terminal command?
[22:07] <Wiz_KeeD> port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
[22:08] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, or your wifirouter is just 11 mbit ..
[22:08] <Wiz_KeeD> product: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[22:08] <CalimeroTeknik> hello
[22:08] <CalimeroTeknik> what is indicator-monitor on ubuntu?
[22:08] <Wiz_KeeD> OerHeks, nop, had another laptop before returning it, downloaded with 7mb/s
[22:08] <robierob> geekmasterflash: what command?
[22:08] <wafflejockTablet> Wiz_KeeD: ah yeah maybe on the router end
[22:08] <wafflejockTablet> Hmm
[22:08] <geekmasterflash> robierob: lspci
[22:09] <robierob> sudo?
[22:09] <wafflejockTablet> G should get 54 mbps
[22:09] <Hai_Karate> np
[22:09] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Shouldn't require sudo
[22:09] <Wiz_KeeD> also, it's limited everywhere and I just pasted the speed
[22:09] <Wiz_KeeD> 10mbit/s
[22:09] <wafflejockTablet> N is like 100-300 or something depending on the router etc etc
[22:09] <geekmasterflash> robierob: lspci, then find the VGA compatable controller
[22:09] <geekmasterflash> robierob: That will tell me your graphics card
[22:09] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Where did you get the 10mbit/s from?
[22:09] <Wiz_KeeD> anyway, hope my new laptop will not be so limited but I really CAN'T DECIDE...trying to avoid optimus at all costs, 15 inch...dunno where to go
[22:09] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: mii-tool?
[22:10] <robierob> just a sec pastbining
[22:10] <Wiz_KeeD> lshw -C network bekks
[22:10] <sebastiano> ciao a tutti
[22:10] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Thats pretty inaccurate. Use iwconfig for determining the speed of a wifi interface
[22:11] <Wiz_KeeD> Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[22:11] <robierob> http://pastebin.com/0sTAYbRw
[22:11] <Wiz_KeeD> still, 2mb everywhere I go in hundrets of places
[22:11] <robierob> there you go...
[22:11] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Please put my name on all communications with me
[22:11] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: So you are connected with 54MB/s currently.
[22:11] <robierob> k
[22:11] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Even the pastebins
[22:11] <robierob> ok
[22:11] <robierob> geekmasterflash: http://pastebin.com/0sTAYbRw
[22:11] <Wiz_KeeD> yet it doesn't go over 2mb and the same place and same router 1 week ago just a different laptop pulled 7mb easy
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> anyway, besides the point I just need a new laptop :(
[22:12] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: it may be a driver issue.
[22:12] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Laptop?
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> bekks, both windows and ubuntu, strange
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> http://www.pcgarage.ro/notebook-laptop/asus/156-k56ca-xx139d-procesor-intel-core-i7-3517u-19ghz-ivy-bridge-4gb-500gb-hd-4000-black/
[22:12] <robierob> yes
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> I really love the look on this one, dunno what to say
[22:12] <robierob> geekmasterflash: yes
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> a pitty it's a i7 with just 2 cores and 4m cache
[22:13] <Wiz_KeeD> At least no optimus technology crap to push me into using bumblebee and a lot of other problems
[22:13] <robierob> geekmasterflash: its and ati redeon something
[22:13] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Yes I see that
[22:13] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Do you have desktop effects enabled?
[22:13] <robierob> geekmasterflash: ....ummmmm no?
[22:13] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Because this error tells me that steam can't get hardware acceleration to load
[22:14] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Is the driver installed?
[22:14] <robierob> i C
[22:14] <robierob> geekmasterflash: i dont know
[22:14] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Go to System Settings -> Details
[22:14] <robierob> k
[22:14] <geekmasterflash> robierob: There will be a graphics list
[22:15] <geekmasterflash> robierob: What does it say?
[22:15] <Wiz_KeeD> any thoughts? XD
[22:15] <robierob> i am on xubuntu
[22:16] <seronis> im trying to use 'touch ../exists/doesntexistyet/newfile.txt' but touch is failing saying no such file or directory
[22:17] <seronis> i thought touch was supposed to CREATE any needed directories to produce the file
[22:17] <waddedMeat> I'm trying to compile some C and I'm getting an error in function `ssl_send' with a list of undefined references to `ERR_clear_error', `SSL_write`, etc... anyone have ideas? (Ubuntu 12.04 desktop x86_64)
[22:18] <seronis> waddedMeat,   'undefined reference' means you either didnt compile (and link in) a source file that has the code for that function,  or that you forgot to use the -lname  to link in the appropriate library
[22:18] <waddedMeat> everything compiles fine; I get the errors on linking
[22:18] <seronis> considering it mentions SSL,  its safe to assume you didnt add the ssl lib to the linker options
[22:19] <waddedMeat> seronis I have -lssl -lcrypto
[22:19] <waddedMeat> what really makes me upset is it compiles and runs on OSX, but I can't get it running on Ubuntu
[22:20] <seronis> waddedMeat,  try  -lssleay and maybe -leay
[22:20] <trism> waddedMeat: our linker is more strict, make sure the -llibrary args are at the end
[22:20] <sebastiano> add
[22:20] <seronis> trism, g++ on xubuntu (prob the same) hasnt yelled at me this week for having my lib names up front
[22:21] <Reacto> In 13.10, whenever I reboot my computer the terminal hotkey stops working and I have to bind it again, anyone else had this issue?
[22:21] <seronis> though i know its officially bad.. its just a 20 year old script
[22:21] <truebattleaxe> hey all i had a question.  If i want to install mir is it decently stable to run with a virtual machine?
[22:22] <chull> hi *hugs* it's chalcedony, my husband's computer Ubuntu 13.04 with compiz, has grayed out about 2/3 of his screens, firefox and Libre Office, & the controls, how do we get it un-grayed, please?
[22:23] <chull> new Office docs aren't grayed but don't rise to the top when i click on them.
[22:23] <seronis> truebattleaxe, zero personal experience but i have one buddy who runs ubuntu in a vm with mir. his comp is a 2200$ system though
[22:27] <charlie> hello..
[22:27] <Danato> truebattleaxe: you made me interested on experimenting it, but the main reason i want to adopt mir is because i have a hybrid graphics laptop and using a vm it wouldnt be the same
[22:28] <truebattleaxe> hi
[22:28] <charlie> anyone here got experience of using ?kernel config parameters ? or items in /proc to get maximum possible throughput from a networking interface ?
[22:28] <impossible> are most or all hp printers compatible with linux?
[22:29] <truebattleaxe> true. i use ubuntu for my main. so I was going to do a dual boot and test it on a second install
[22:29] <Danato> truebattleaxe: if you do that please let me know what do you think about it, i was thinking to do it but i thought i should let them cook it up a bit more
[22:35] <robierob> ok guys a good question for you.....i cant find my driver for an ATI radeo grafic card from way back... and helpers?
[22:36] <charlie> #robierob: try starting with the AMD support site.
[22:36] <robierob> i didnt its not listed
[22:36] <robierob> i did
[22:37] <charlie> ? google ?
[22:37] <robierob> hrmmmm.... ok
[22:37] <Dan9311> Im trying to install a adobe flash plugin for chromium, I dont know how to install. Im running ubuntu saucy.
[22:37] <iceroot> Dan9311: you are not installing flash on chromium
[22:37] <charlie> especially using the PCI vendor id & product ID you get from lspci -vv
[22:37] <iceroot> Dan9311: flash comes per default with chromium
[22:38] <homerjr> hello, i updated 13.10 from kernel 3.11.0-12 to 3.12.0-031200, also updated NVIDIA driver to 331.20. Now before the login screen I receive "Fast TSC calibration failed"
[22:38] <robierob> RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]   this is what i got....
[22:38] <Dan9311> iceroot: it says im missing the plugin when I try to browse youtbue
[22:38] <iceroot> Dan9311: hm strange
[22:38] <iceroot> Dan9311: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:38] <bekks> Thats outdated.
[22:38] <iceroot> Dan9311: but normally that should not change anything
[22:39] <bekks> Just use chrome which ships with current Flash.
[22:39] <Hai_Karate> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[22:39] <Dan9311> bekks: How do I download and install chrome?
[22:40] <charlie> robierob: sorry, should have added -n to the lspci switches, that gives you the numeric ids..
[22:40] <bekks> !chrome
[22:40] <bekks> hmm.
[22:40] <iceroot> !amd | robierob
[22:40] <iceroot> !ati | robierob
[22:40] <Dan9311> iceroot: It worked! Thanks for the help. :)
[22:40] <bekks> Dan9311: http://www.google.com/intl/de/chrome/
[22:41] <iceroot> Dan9311: strange i thought chromium also have its own flash plugin but as it seems its not the case
[22:41] <Dan9311> iceroot: well regardless, I appreciate the help
[22:42] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu installation now im on install grub boot loader on hard disk section.. the err message is grub-pc package failed to install into target.. but i see that the hardisk mount properly on /target
[22:42] <iceroot> homerjr: we are not supporting custom kernels here
[22:42] <fishcooker> what should i do .. skip it or?
[22:43] <iceroot> homerjr: normally there is no reason to use another kernel then the one(s) from the official repos. newer is not always better (and out of ubuntu security support)
[22:44] <v1c3> hi! virtual users do not work on my proFTPD server. secure.log says USER wordpress: no such user found from ..... has anybody an idea? there is nothing in /var/log/auth.log! Could it be that the virtual users arend recognized by PAM. How can i fix that?
[22:45] <homerjr> iceroot, the kernel came from http://kernel.ubuntu.com, I did not realize that I could get a custom kernel from there
[22:50] <ubuntu-addict> Hello. I have installed ubuntu on my rog g750 but i think it's not as quick as with windows. Is ubuntu able to manage all the tricks offered by an i7?
[22:50] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: Yes, it is.
[22:51] <Danato> http://askubuntu.com/questions/330862/how-do-i-find-out-if-my-system-is-using-mir
[22:51] <Danato> sorry
[22:53] <ubuntu-addict> bekks: for example when i open a 1go text file and test with time, I found that it's quicker on my old core2duo +4goram than on this i7-4700hg-24go ram (both with ubuntu 64bits). an idea? did I something wrong?
[22:53] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: I have no clue whats "1go"
[22:54] <rostam> hi what is the format of dmesg timing stamp? e.x 89415.040692
[22:54] <bekks> rostam: seconds since poweron.
[22:55] <rostam> bekks,  so what exactly the seconds are in this time stamp 89415.040692  ?
[22:55] <ubuntu-addict> bekks: 1 Go sorry
[22:55] <bekks> rostam: 89415 seconds.
[22:55] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: I still have no idea whats "1 Go".
[22:55] <ubuntu-addict> the size of the file...
[22:56] <rostam> bekks, thanks I assume the one after "." are in milliseconds
[22:56] <ubuntu-addict> bekks: 1000 Mo
[22:56] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: Whats "go" as a unit?
[22:56] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: Do you mean "Gigabyte"?
[22:56] <daftykins> gigaoctet - gigabyte
[22:56] <ubuntu-addict> bekks:  yes
[22:56] <Hai_Karate> Gb
[22:56] <daftykins> no, Gb = gigabit
[22:56] <daftykins> fun facts from daftykins!
[22:57] <ubuntu-addict> bekks: ok let say a big text file
[22:57] <CptBley> Hi there
[22:57] <charlie> ubuntu-addict: unfortunate fact of life that it is the memory speed that finally determines application performance rather than the CPU speed. One simple task (like open big file) will not be faster on faster CPU; but i7 can keep more plates spinning at same time..
[22:57] <CptBley> I need help
[22:58] <bekks> charlie: which is not true. Even a very slow CPU is far more faster than the fastest bus a disk could be connected to.
[22:58] <daftykins> CptBley: ask away
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> CptBley  let's hear it, in one line
[22:58] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[22:59] <CptBley> there
[22:59] <v1c3> hi! virtual users do not work on my proFTPD server. secure.log says USER wordpress: no such user found from ..... has anybody an idea? there is nothing in /var/log/auth.log! Could it be that the virtual users arend recognized by PAM. How can i fix that?
[22:59] <CptBley> read that
[22:59] <tking0036> Does anyone know how to use cut with " is a delimeter
[22:59] <bekks> tking0036: Use "\""
[22:59] <tking0036> bekks: Thanks I'll give that  a whack
[22:59] <akurilin> Is /tmp by default mounted as an in-memory filesystem in ubuntu 12.04?
[23:00] <bekks> akurilin: yes.
[23:00] <charlie> becks: that is my point.. the CPU that is even a little bit faster than the memory or disk is waiting for the data all the time. sure the CPU can go fast all by itself; but no input data means no output data..
[23:00] <CptBley> Hello
[23:00] <CptBley> did anyone get that
[23:00] <ubuntu-addict> If I'm not mistaken, on this gamer laptop, every component is quicker than my 7 years old laptop.
[23:00] <tking0036> bekks: cut -d '"' -f2 worked
[23:00] <bekks> tking0036: cool :)
[23:00] <akurilin> bekks, can I run something on the cmdline to check that?
[23:01] <bekks> akurilin: "mount"
[23:01] <tking0036> I need help with sed though
[23:01] <tking0036> how can I replace & with &
[23:01] <bekks> tking0036: s/\&amp\;/\&/g
[23:01] <bekks> Or even: s/amp\;//g
[23:03] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:03] <ubuntu-addict> Can someone tell me how can I use awk to open a matrix and replace all negative values by 0?
[23:03] <akurilin> bekks, mount | grep /tmp returns nothing on my 13.10 instance
[23:03] <bekks> akurilin: mount | grep tmp
[23:03] <akurilin> bekks, same thing, just returns instances with tmpfs
[23:04] <bekks> akurilin: Maybe because /tmp is mounted as tmpfs ...
[23:04] <cheasee> hi
[23:04] <akurilin> bekks, nothing is mounted "on" /tmp though
[23:04] <akurilin> in that list
[23:04] <bekks> akurilin: then pastebin "mount" please.
[23:04] <cheasee> what could cause "SSL error: decryption failed or bad record mac" ? googling for it there are several possible fixes depending on the application which often has to do with something modifying openssl.
[23:04] <CptBley> Is anyone reading my studd
[23:04] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:04] <zykotick9> bekks: i was "surprised" by your answer about /tmp.  akurilin
[23:05] <cheasee> in my case im working with bucardo to sync tables from postgresql, which seems to use openssl but i never touched anything with ssl, i installed postgres, bucardo and am working with this
[23:05] <tking0036> bekks: no dice with the first one
[23:05] <tking0036> bekks: not quite sure how sed works
[23:05] <tking0036> should I do cat thefile | sed s/\&amp\;/\&/g
[23:05] <akurilin> bekks, http://pastebin.com/UJTpxwGP
[23:05] <akurilin> zykotick9, what do you mean?
[23:06] <cheasee> im on ubuntu precise and default bucardo pkg worked basicaly but gave some minor errors where i tried to manually installing latest stable from bucardo and since manual installing (also some modules via cpan) bucardo doesnt work
[23:06] <CptBley> Hey
[23:06] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:06] <bekks> zykotick9: hmmm. at least on 12.04 which I have here /tmp is mounted as tmpfs. As a matter of fact, I am not 100% sure wether I changed that since installing it.
[23:06] <cheasee> problem and postgresql debug logs pasted here: http://pastebin.com/PzhkuLPm
[23:06] <tking0036> the second one worked
[23:06] <CptBley> Help me please
[23:06] <CptBley> this is urgent
[23:06] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:06] <bekks> zykotick9: Seems like I did change it.
[23:06] <zykotick9> akurilin: i "didn't" think /tmp was a tmpfs by default...
[23:06] <cheasee> tried to remove bucardo installation and every file named like this, removed as much as possible from the perl/cpan modules i installed manually, then installed default ubuntu pkg but still same problem
[23:07] <cheasee> tried to reinstall perl, dpkg-reconfigure perl, but that also didnt help so i guess its really some openssl thing i broke while manually installing bucardo?
[23:07] <akurilin> bekks, zykotick9 is there a good already existing location I could use to dump temporary files to that require in-memory performance?
[23:08] <bekks> akurilin: I just changed /tmp to be mounted as /tmpfs - basically nothing in there is worth to be preserved over a reboot.
[23:08] <tking0036> Kk stupid question, how do I load all of the lines from a file into an array with bash
[23:08] <akurilin> bekks, just a change in fstab and it kicks in right away, right?
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> CptBley  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntu-server
[23:09] <bekks> akurilin: Yeah. Like this: tmpfs /tmp tmpfs default,size=33% 0 0
[23:09] <bekks> akurilin: I have 16GB RAM, so I dont care about that third :)
[23:09] <akurilin> bekks, do I seriously not need to reboot anything when I do that? :|
[23:09] <bekks> akurilin: that wasnt the question ;) you need to restart lightdm at least.
[23:10] <akurilin> bekks, thinking more about a server context
[23:10] <Lenny> is anyone using latest fglrx-updates experiencing bad performance while playing games?  (13.10)
[23:10] <bekks> akurilin: you could take a look at lsof
[23:11] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:11] <CptBley> MonkeyDust nobody is helping
[23:11] <truebattleaxe> whats your issue cptbley?
[23:12] <truebattleaxe> it wont boot from disk?
[23:12] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:12] <CptBley> yeah
[23:12] <truebattleaxe> is it 64 or 32?
[23:12] <akurilin> bekks, great, thank you!
[23:12] <CptBley> 64
[23:12] <charlie> CptBley: is the DVD set up as a bootable DVD ? can you boot other machines using it ?
[23:12] <bekks> akurilin: you're welcome :)
[23:12] <CptBley> i dont know
[23:12] <truebattleaxe> what charlie said. that was my next question
[23:12] <CptBley> I don't want to boot my mac with it
[23:12] <truebattleaxe> is the disk bootble?
[23:12] <CptBley> how do I make it bootable in mac
[23:13] <truebattleaxe> you can see if it loads it you dont have to do anything from there
[23:13] <CptBley> ok
[23:13] <truebattleaxe> it should just recognize it
[23:13] <CptBley> brb
[23:13] <Craxxy> I'm trying to use wget to download wikipedia pagecount files. If i use  an url that leads to a page with .gz links it downloads the gz archives but when i try to use the same command but from an url higher up in the hierarchy it wont download the .gz files. This works as i expect: wget --recursive  --no-parent --level 3 --accept .gz --execute  robots=off http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2013/2013-11/ -P /media/nas1/data/tes
[23:13] <Craxxy> t/   This for some reason skips the .gz files:  wget --recursive  --no-parent --level 3 --accept .gz --execute  robots=off http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2013/ -P /media/nas1/data/test/   What options should i use with wget to be able to download all .gz files for 2013 using the url http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2013/?
[23:14] <charlie> here is a bump of my Q, since it looks like old Q's disappear into the log that only NSA checks..
[23:15] <charlie> anyone here got experience of using ?kernel config parameters ? or items in /proc to get maximum possible throughput from a networking interface ?
[23:16] <reisio> charlie: #networking
[23:16] <pinPoint> anyone using an apache 2.4.6 ppa yet? i know...
[23:16] <reisio> pinPoint: do you know
[23:17] <charlie> reisic: thanks..will have a look..
[23:17] <pinPoint> i know I've asked couple times
[23:17] <pinPoint> reisio: do you run Apache?
[23:17] <reisio> pinPoint: on some older boxes
[23:17] <bekks> pinPoint: oh, you again. You got the solution already.
[23:17] <reisio> use nginx for new stuff
[23:17] <pinPoint> Ondrej's PPA?
[23:18] <bekks> pinPoint: I wont recommend using a PPA for production usage.
[23:18] <pinPoint> but why? :)
[23:19] <pinPoint> bekks: so let me ask you a question about installing from ppa.
[23:19] <bekks> pinPoint: security, trust, responsibility.
[23:19] <pinPoint> if I have an older version of apache, will it overwrite it or install both versions?
[23:19] <Rory> pinPoint: Not even those things really, just weird package breakages 3 weeks later that prevent you from updating and you have no idea why
[23:20] <bekks> pinPoint: IF the maintainer of the PPA built a somehow sane package, it will force you to uninstall the older version. If not - welcome to trouble.
[23:20] <pinPoint> but 2.4.6 is better than 2.2.x even it breaks it is still a newer version
[23:20] <bekks> There is no "better" in terms of software...
[23:20] <pinPoint> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej
[23:20] <pinPoint> he is very established in launchpad stats
[23:20] <bekks> pinPoint: Its your choice, not mine :)
[23:21] <bekks> pinPoint: If you need support for his PPA, please contact him.
[23:21] <bekks> pinPoint: This channel generally not recommedn using a PPA.
[23:26] <v1c3> how to paste to a pastebin service from commandline?
[23:26] <v1c3> or whats ubuntus wgetpaste
[23:26] <bekks> v1c3: "pastebinit"
[23:26] <wheatthin> v1c3, pastebinit
[23:26] <v1c3> thx!
[23:26] <wheatthin> ahh shucks
[23:26] <wheatthin> lol
[23:27] <truebattleaxe> ive lost volume control with kde
[23:27] <truebattleaxe> anyone know how to get it back?
[23:30] <MonkeyDust> truebattleaxe  how did you lose it?
[23:30] <rjzell> can anyone help me out with an issue i am having trying to move my /home to a new partition?
[23:30] <truebattleaxe> i have no idea monkeydust
[23:31] <truebattleaxe> it just disappeared when i booted
[23:31] <truebattleaxe> ive rebooted a couple times and it is still gone
[23:32] <rjzell> i am using the instructions found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving and am on the sudo diff /home /meda/home step and am receiving a bunch of diff errors referencing /.ecryptfs/rjzell/.Private/
[23:33] <rjzell> should all of these be different or did my rsync not work correctly?
[23:33] <MonkeyDust> truebattleaxe  and it's ubuntu?
[23:33] <reisio> rjzell: it's probably comparing a FUSE mounted system vs one that is not
[23:33] <reisio> rjzell: so naturally it would differ
[23:33] <reisio> rjzell: run 'mount' to see what FUSE systems you have mounted
[23:34] <reisio> oh ecryptfs isn't fuse is it
[23:34] <reisio> still, it'll probably show in mount
[23:34] <rjzell> this is what i got: /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:34] <rjzell> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[23:34] <rjzell> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[23:34] <rjzell> none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
[23:34] <rjzell> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[23:34] <FloodBot1> rjzell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:34] <rjzell> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[23:36] <CptBley> hey
[23:36] <gassho> whats +z signify
[23:36] <CptBley> sorry I took so long
[23:36] <reisio> gassho: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml at the bottom
[23:37] <Rory> gassho: ops see messages, nobody else does
[23:37] <Rory> Oh wait that's not right
[23:37] <gassho> hehe
[23:37] <Rory> It's something to do with messages being sent to ops anyway. Google it :P
[23:38] <kbrosnan> gassho: https://www.freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[23:38] <rjzell> sorry about that. it does show none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[23:39] <CptBley> it is bootable
[23:39] <CptBley> but it won't boot when I select it in the boot menu
[23:39] <rjzell> i also see gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=rjzell)
[23:39] <rjzell> gvfsd-fuse on /root/.gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[23:40] <charlie> CptBley: what is the difference between the machine where the disk boots and the one where it will not ?
[23:40] <CptBley> oh it didn't boot on mac
[23:40] <CptBley> I don't know how to open the boot menu on my mac
[23:41] <FuuqUmist> i am having problems installing flash, i think the flash installer can't connect to adobe's website or something. i tried these methods http://eeecoder.blogspot.ca/2013/08/flash-for-linux.html
[23:42] <charlie> CptBley: are you sure the DVD format/content is bootable by the MAC ??
[23:42] <rjzell> so, if it is mounted to FUSE systems, will it not work correctly? Do I need to abandon my attempt to move my /home to a different partition?
[23:42] <CptBley> idk
[23:42] <CptBley> wait I am trying another approach
[23:43] <CptBley> whats the Ubutnu website
[23:43] <CptBley> ubuntu*
[23:43] <CptBley> is there a ubuntu server installer charlie?
[23:44] <Beldar> FuuqUmist, the flash installer connects with the repos not adobe.
[23:44] <Beldar> the partner repo at that
[23:45] <charlie> CptBley: I am sure there is; just not sure if they provide one that is MAC specific.
[23:46] <FuuqUmist> Beldar i guess i'm having problems connecting to the repo server, how can i verify that everything is proper, like the address and keys and such
[23:46] <Beldar> FuuqUmist, This ubuntu?
[23:46] <FuuqUmist> yeah
[23:47] <MonkeyDust> FuuqUmist  just to be sure: what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[23:47] <Beldar> FuuqUmist, run cat /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure the partner repo is not off with a # in front, have you done a update?
[23:50] <rjzell> this is the pastebin url for the output of running mount: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461162/
[23:50] <baba> hi there
[23:50] <reisio> hi here
[23:51] <daftykins> hi everywhere
[23:51] <baba> have a problem with downloading
[23:51] <urielvigilant> Today friday night , i tryed to see  new original DVD movie that come offer with newspaper in my country, and i discoveres i wasnt able to do it, nether in ubuntu 13.10 nether in lubuntu 13.0 . I follow instructions here to install VLC and i did , but even aftar open disc, no VOB files run. i found this  webiste page http://askubuntu.com/questions/15090/how-to-play-vob-files-that-were-inside-a-dvd
[23:51] <urielvigilant> -disc    , please tell me , i need all that work to see a certain vob dvd movie ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461227/
[23:51] <baba> need help
[23:51] <daftykins> urielvigilant: you don't play the files, you tell it to play the disc
[23:51] <MonkeyDust> urielvigilant  try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:52] <urielvigilant> MonkeyDust: i have rstricted extras ! i try play disc. .. . and it opens a windows with errors .
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> urielvigilant  what errors? use pastebin to show us
[23:53] <urielvigilant> Its original DVD that comes free with newspaper, i tryed 3 of them
[23:53] <urielvigilant> ok
[23:53] <urielvigilant> i will... minute .please
[23:53] <baba> i need help
[23:53] <daftykins> baba: please describe what you're trying to download and what's going wrong
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> baba  let's hea it, in one line
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> hear*
[23:54] <baba> have downloading problems...all dowloading dont work
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> baba  downloading what, from where?
[23:55] <Hai_Karate> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[23:55] <Hai_Karate> then.. sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[23:55] <baba> most of  packages i download esp zip's can't be opened
[23:56] <InQuIrI> hello guys
[23:56] <FlurglerHobbit> Hey all. When I reboot my computer with my external HD's plugged in the computer doesn't recognize them from terminal. I have to actually click on the icon on the desktop that shows the HD for it to be recognized? Can anyone explain to me what is going on?
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> baba  so you can download, but not open the zip file?
[23:56] <InQuIrI> i just downloaded a file but i don't know where the file was saved
[23:56] <InQuIrI> how to get the file?
[23:56] <baba> hello InQ
[23:57] <InQuIrI> how to find the file?
[23:57] <baba> thats it MD
[23:57] <urielvigilant> VLC come with this kin of errors , but ir open the DVDmenu , where we see DVD options... trials... see movie.. etc but after that give me this kind of error :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461239/
[23:57] <MonkeyDust> InQuIrI  in a terminal, type     locate [file]
[23:58] <Beldar> urielvigilant, When you were on earlier you followed the bots dvd info right? including libdvdread4 and the wget of the libcss2 soemthing like that?
[23:58] <Beldar> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh this
[23:59] <InQuIrI> i got this:
[23:59] <InQuIrI> The program 'locate' can be found in the following packages:
[23:59] <CAP5158> yoo
[23:59] <InQuIrI>  * mlocate
[23:59] <InQuIrI>  * locate
[23:59] <FloodBot1> InQuIrI: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <rjzell> can anyone help me with this issue?
[23:59] <Hai_Karate> I cant play dvds untill i install libdvdread4 etc