[12:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ubuntu have tou done a sudo hdparms and then p? is the drive locked?
[12:00] <j-linux> spikebike: good idea.... I'm looking it up now...
[12:00] <levander> ubuntu: paste your /etc/fstab, maybe something's wrong in there?
[12:00] <brownie17> garg
[12:00] <j-linux> thanks
[12:00] <j-linux> I do like the Powerbooks though.. great screens
[12:00] <spikebike> I prefer the t40/t41/t42/t43, particularly with the 1400x1050 screen
[12:00] <spikebike> about 5 lbs
[12:00] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, ok...
[12:00] <spikebike> awesome screen
[12:00] <xiaogil> how to list files with their size using the ls command ?
[12:00] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: How can I get vncviewer to fit the remote desktop to screen?
[12:00] <RAW-mEAT> whats my problem, cant see through what i did wrong:   http://nopaste.php-q.net/176475
[12:00] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, -fullscreen
[12:01] <kaz> rockett18: not sure
[12:01] <Rockett18> spikebike> yeah the IBM thinkpads T40 - 43's are wafer thin and light as hell
[12:01] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, okay im done, im gonna reload and see what happens
[12:01] <Mabus06> yes brownie, changes the resolution, but not really... see doom 3 uses a worse resolution thatn I use
[12:01] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, vncviewer -fullscreen
[12:01] <ubuntu> levander: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448880
[12:01] <spikebike> rockett and durable, I like the big sturdy al plate hinges
[12:01] <j-linux> spikebike: I typed "ibm thinkpad" into google and the second result is about running linux on thinkpads. :)
[12:01] <nawac> salut
[12:01] <Mabus06> But basically it keeps it at the same resolution I guess (taskbar is still large), except now the screen is bigger than my monitor.
[12:02] <Mabus06> So I don't know what that means exactly.
[12:02] <kaz> thanks... this will probably work now :]
[12:02] <spikebike> no thin plastic crappy hinges (ala dell)
[12:02] <amparo_pzzi> to join two files .avi ????????????
[12:02] <amparo_pzzi> anyone
[12:02] <levander> ubuntu: in fact, maybe that 'mount -o bind' command is screwing things up, see if you can't umount that proc filesystem, use the output of a bare 'mount' command (bare = no args) to verify it's unmounted
[12:02] <Rockett18> spikebike> Thinkpads just wont die... definately going to be my next laptop purchase... currently have a big motha of a toshiba that's starting to feel old
[12:02] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: I did vncviewer -fullscreen [my ip]  and I still have to scroll around the remote screen. Also what is the hot key to exit?
[12:02] <spikebike> yeah, I know a few folks that got tempted away from thinkpads and regret it
[12:02] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, Hello?
[12:03] <levander> ubuntu: think you're fstab is okay, i don't know about all the options, but i imagine they don't screw anything up
[12:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, hi
[12:03] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, its still not there, by the way where does a package go when its installed, i installed the vitualgameboy but i cant find it
[12:03] <logical_mark> Does anyone in here know of a webcam that is compatiable with linux?
[12:03] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, alright, restarted x
[12:03] <levander> ubuntu: you may even need to reboot if you can't be sure that you haven't "over-mounted" proc
[12:03] <ubuntu> ok
[12:03] <worldmaster0> im out
[12:03] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ok cool. sudo synclient -h to see if it lists your touchpad
[12:04] <ubuntu> its late
[12:04] <ubuntu> i go sleeping
[12:04] <ubuntu> try tomorrow
[12:04] <ubuntu> bye
[12:04] <ubuntu> thx for your help
[12:04] <levander> oh, ubuntu, i know the feeling
[12:04] <ubuntu> :)
[12:04] <levander> ubuntu: get some sleep!!
[12:04] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, it says shmconfig is disabled but it isn't according to my xorg.conf
[12:04] <confrey> I have one slot pcmcia, the second may be is a sd reader, it's not working in linux, what's missing?
[12:04] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, you don't see anything when you search for "zsnes"?  If so, please post your updated sources.list.  Check the games submenu in applications for virtualgameboy.  I don't use it so I'm not sure where it would install itself to
[12:04] <levander> bob2 doesn't hang out here anymore?
[12:05] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: Did you read that last?
[12:05] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, already posted the updated source: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5396
[12:05] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: about vncviewer
[12:05] <JohnP789> What might cause slow DNS lookups in Breezy, when DNS lookups to the same server are very fast in WinXP on the same machine.
[12:05] <JohnP789> ?
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> ipv6 issue perhaps?
[12:06] <JohnP789> I don't think there's any ipv6 stuff on my network.
[12:06] <JohnP789> I've pasted my little DNS benchmark in the pastebin.
[12:06] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, yeah, um ctl-atl-enter?
[12:06] <JohnP789> time ./lotsadigs.sh takes >7 seconds.
[12:06] <amparo_pzzi> to join two files .avi ????????????
[12:07] <r3tex> what is the default filesystem on ubuntu?
[12:07] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, oh you are using hoary.  Didn't see that before.  I don't know if it is in the hoary repos.  Have you considered upgrading to breezy?
[12:07] <crouton> ext3?
[12:07] <j-linux> Does anyone here have a thinkpad?  How is the customer service?  Wasn't it sold to a Chinese company  recently?
[12:07] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, this is really weird...
[12:07] <logical_mark> The_Isle_of_Mark: And about still having to scroll?
[12:07] <amparo_pzzi> ntfs ............xd
[12:07] <j-linux> Ubuntu work ok on them?
[12:07] <j-linux> works
[12:07] <silent_scream> in which dir I can find kernel sources?
[12:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> logical_mark, change your local resolution to match that of the remote system
[12:07] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, what?
[12:07] <recon0> can somebody help me with a hardware acceleration problem...http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5398
[12:08] <robotgeek> silent_scream: /usr/src/
[12:08] <spikebike> j-linux yeah a bunch
[12:08] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, is there any way that I can find out if this is software or hardware related because i had a little mishap carrying my laptop up to my room right before this happened... so :/
[12:08] <spikebike> no problems so far
[12:08] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, I just searched the hoary repo, and zsnes is there.  Can you close synaptic and run this command in a  terminal: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search zsnes
[12:08] <Fujitsu> recon0, what type of video card is it?
[12:08] <JohnP789> Could somebody time the many-digs script I pasted in the pastebin?  I think 11.6 seconds, my last timing, is way to slow.
[12:08] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, that is what we are trying to do, poll the touchpad for information about it :)
[12:08] <j-linux> spikebike: that's good to hear.  Toshiba was terrible with the customer service.  Otherwise I would buy another one.
[12:09] <recon0> Fujitsu, a nvidia
[12:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, does a regular mouse plugged in work...such as usb?
[12:09] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, well ya i tried once, but good news i found the package and i installed, one problem tho i cant find it on the games submenu
[12:09] <Fujitsu> recon0, have you installed the drivers?
[12:09] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, alrighty..y
[12:09] <thechitowncubs> Yes, my usb mouse works
[12:09] <thechitowncubs> And I can't get SHMConfig loaded
[12:09] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell recon0 about nvidia
[12:09] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ah, I see...can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[12:10] <recon0> fujitsu, i installed & enabled nvidia-glx, if that's what you mean
[12:10] <Fujitsu> recon0, yes.
[12:10] <Fujitsu> OK.
[12:10] <The_Isle_of_Mark> ubotu tell thechitowncubs about pastebin
[12:10] <Fujitsu> recon0, does your account have the "Use video acceleration" privilege?
[12:10] <blue-frog> recon0, with ubuntu nvidia drivers?
[12:11] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, unfortunately I can't help you with using the zsnes emulator as I don't use it.  Try searching the forums and google if no one here can help.  You may also want to read the man page (probably: man zsnes).
[12:11] <recon0> fujistu, ??
[12:11] <thechitowncubs> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5399
[12:11] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, what are you using?
[12:11] <blue-frog> recon0, paste your xorg.conf
[12:11] <Fujitsu> recon0, open up System->Administration->Users and Groups.
[12:11] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, I don't use any emulator.  I don't play too many games
[12:11] <recon0> fujitsu, ok
[12:12] <recon0> fujitsu, it does
[12:12] <b_e_n_z> i have a dvd writer but ubuntu doesn't recognize that it can write (in disk management, it says the drive can only read dvd's)... how can i make ubuntu know that this dvd writer can write?  (same setup no problem under gentoo)
[12:12] <Fujitsu> recon0, find your user, double-click, and check the 'Privileges' tab.
[12:12] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, did you get htat?
[12:12] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, i see, thanks alot for the help tho
[12:12] <recon0> fujitsu, brb
[12:12] <Fujitsu> recon0, OK.
[12:12] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, yw
[12:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, yeah hang on a sec...looks fine, but give me a bit
[12:13] <thechitowncubs> ok
[12:14] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, so a sudo lsof | grep -i psaux
[12:15] <thechitowncubs> nothing
[12:15] <hi-fo-web> hey
[12:15] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web: Hi.
[12:15] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ok sudo cat /proc/bus/input/devices | grep mouse0
[12:16] <hi-fo-web> what is a good program to get a trojan virues off of ur computer
[12:16] <edo> hi all
[12:16] <Drgb> hi everyone, what are critical commands to shut system down?????
[12:16] <Drgb> i mean
[12:16] <Drgb> key bindings
[12:16] <Drgb> my pc is stuck
[12:16] <thechitowncubs> H: Handlers=mouse0 event1 ts0
[12:16] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, what trojan!?
[12:17] <hi-fo-web> im not shure
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> Drgb,  alt-ctrl-backspace, and alt-ctrl-del
[12:17] <edo> help x kaffeine dvb (skystar2)
[12:17] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, how do you know you have one!?
[12:17] <hi-fo-web> on xp it is running to slow  becaues of it so i had to put in the live cd of linux
[12:17] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, is it on Linux?
[12:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, ok sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:17] <The_Isle_of_Mark>  | grep synaptics
[12:17] <opnsrc> How do I change fonts in ubuntu KDE
[12:17] <hi-fo-web> nope
[12:17] <opnsrc> font size
[12:18] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, this is a Linux channel, there are others around that would be more appropriate...
[12:18] <hi-fo-web> avg sid it
[12:18] <opnsrc> where is the settings for that?
[12:18] <hoopdr> hi folks. i just helped convert a windows user ... that was fun!
[12:18] <hi-fo-web> said
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (II) Module synaptics: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 3 nodes)
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> (II) UnloadModule: "synaptics"
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> shit
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> SORRY
[12:18] <hi-fo-web> virues protector thing
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> :/
[12:18] <Fujitsu> hoopdr, it is fun, isn't it!
[12:18] <hi-fo-web> it didnt go away though
[12:18] <Fujitsu> Well, I converted a Red Hat user last night (my father, it was).
[12:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, your touchpad is bad
[12:18] <Mabus06> how do you chown every file in a folder?
[12:18] <hoopdr> only thing is i couldnt find wine.. is it in the badger set of packages?
[12:18] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, fuck.
[12:18] <Fujitsu> hi-fo-web, we here are Linux people.
[12:18] <_jason> Mabus06, -R
[12:18] <macd> Mabus06, chown -r
[12:18] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, or at least the ribbon cable is unhooked
[12:19] <gratuit> has anyone here gotten mythgame to install? it requires a package that doesn't exist....
[12:19] <Mabus06> thanks, _jason, macd
[12:19] <hi-fo-web> just dont worrie about it i will formate it again
[12:19] <edo> nobody use skystar2 ?
[12:19] <hi-fo-web> can u download from here
[12:19] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, it unloaded the module since it didnt find the hardware, no hardware = hardware not connected/working
[12:19] <Mabus06> macd, only upper case R works btw
[12:19] <macd>  lowercase works for me
[12:20] <hi-fo-web> can u download from here???
[12:20] <hdp> hi all, i just tried to do a netinstall on a subnotebook, and after the first reboot the installer gives me a warning: the following packages have unmet dependencies libesd-alsa0: Conflicts: libesd0 but 0.2.36-1ubuntu5 is to be installed. any ideas?
[12:20] <Seveas> hi-fo-web, no
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> hi-fo-web,  Huh?
[12:20] <Mabus06> macd, says invalid option for me
[12:20] <hi-fo-web> o
[12:20] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, sorry to be the bearer of bad news
[12:20] <macd> interesting, Mabus06 use -R then ;)
[12:20] <Seveas> hdp, if you're trying dapper: known bug
[12:20] <Mabus06> Yeah I did, macd, lol
[12:20] <hdp> Seveas, nope, it's breezy. hope so... ;)
[12:21] <opnsrc> anyone know?
[12:21] <Seveas> hdp, that'd be really weird. Double check that it's not dapper please
[12:21] <hdp> k
[12:21] <hoopdr> another thing is that the poor guy is using a 56k modem. Are firefox and thunderbird set up to use the nearest comms device or do i need to fiddle. It showed up in the system properties tree of course.
[12:22] <macd> Has anyone seen gnome take the applications menu, and change it behavior:  Instead of the menu "droping down" on click, it drops down for a second then changes into a small grey box on the desktop, when clicked it simply vanishes.  Reselecting the applications menu again causes the same behavior
[12:22] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: please dont flood or curse in the channel
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> I know
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, guess what!
[12:22] <hdp> Seveas, i downloaded this netboot image: http://tinyurl.com/cv3kj
[12:22] <jgrieves> macd dapper
[12:22] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, what?
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> The_Isle_of_Mark, my Acer warranty runs out in 7 days!
[12:22] <thechitowncubs> hahahaha
[12:22] <macd> jgrieves, yep
[12:22] <Seveas> hdp, ah I'm mistaken - it's breezy that's broken with netboot
[12:23] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, nice!
[12:23] <jgrieves> macd check the forums
[12:23] <jgrieves> macd there are a couple of solutions
[12:23] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, get the RMA quick!
[12:23] <Seveas> elmo and kamion are discussing it now in #ubuntu-devel :)
[12:23] <macd> I have somewhat, but I will again.
[12:23] <Determinist> Seveas, lo mate, seems like your NX howto is gaining fans :P
[12:23] <hoopdr> is anyone willing to help me with my queries?
[12:23] <jgrieves> macd the post is something about applicaiton menu
[12:23] <macd> jgrieves, ty
[12:23] <jgrieves> macd there are 2 solutions in the post that work
[12:23] <Seveas> Determinist, :)
[12:24] <hdp> Seveas, i already did a netinstall on two subnotebooks via netboot, are there different versions out there?
[12:24] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thechitowncubs, at least there is something positive in that situation
[12:24] <gratuit> how do I file a bug report on a borken package?
[12:25] <Seveas> hdp, it's a recent change in the archive that caused it
[12:25] <macd> ahhh I feel pretty dumb now
[12:25] <recon0> fujitsu, i think my problems olmost fixed,  now all i get is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5400
[12:26] <hoopdr> wow this channel really went downhill
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> argg i need help
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> how do i install a package
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> ???
[12:26] <jake_> im trying to go into superuser mode, and it says authentication failure, and i KNOW im entering the right password
[12:26] <Fujitsu> AbdulSpiegel, what do you mean!?
[12:26] <macd> jake_ ubuntu uses sudo not su
[12:26] <Madpilot> gratuit: https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu
[12:26] <hoopdr> goes with the growth of the community I guess
[12:26] <Fujitsu> recon0, paste your xorg.conf.
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> Fujitsu, well i found the darn zsnes package i was looking for, and i did that install thing
[12:26] <AbdulSpiegel> but now i cant find it
[12:27] <Fujitsu> What do you mean you can't find it? Where are you looking?
[12:27] <robotgeek> AbdulSpiegel: dpkg -L zsnes | less
[12:28] <opnsrc> Does anyone know how to change the KDE default font?
[12:28] <AbdulSpiegel> robotgeek, okay, great, now how do i run it??
[12:28] <recon0> fujitsu, ok http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5401
[12:28] <robotgeek> AbdulSpiegel: no clue
[12:28] <opnsrc> !font
[12:28] <ubotu> 'fixed' is the one true font!
[12:28] <Seveas> !forget font
[12:28] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot font
[12:28] <opnsrc> !font size
[12:28] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, opnsrc
[12:28] <Madpilot> AbdulSpiegel: probably with "zsnes" in a terminal
[12:28] <Seveas> opnsrc, somewhere in kcontrol I guess
[12:29] <Fujitsu> I don't know, recon0. Have you followed all of the instructions in the Ubuntu Wiki?
[12:29] <DozeN> how much time?
[12:29] <hdp> Seveas, thanks for enlightening me, i already started to bang my head against the wall ;)
[12:29] <recon0> !nvidia
[12:29] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:29] <AbdulSpiegel> YAY I FUCKING FOUND IT
[12:29] <AbdulSpiegel> !!!
[12:29] <ubotu> ! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[12:30] <Madpilot> well, he left before he got kicked for profanity, anyway... :P
[12:30] <robotgeek> lol
[12:30] <Fujitsu> Madpilot, heh.
[12:30] <silent_scream> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386/ is not a valid kernel source tree. what is going on ?
[12:30] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:31] <robotgeek> silent_scream: that's just headers?
[12:31] <recon0> fujitsu, i still have some work to do, i'll be right back
[12:31] <Fujitsu> That's what I would have thought, robotgeek.
[12:31] <opnsrc> found it, thanks
[12:31] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: :)
[12:31] <opnsrc> default is 10, why so small?
[12:32] <silent_scream> robotgeek, i don't understand what you mean... where exactly is the kernel-source?
[12:32] <robotgeek> silent_scream: what are you trying to compile?
[12:32] <silent_scream> lirc-modules-source
[12:32] <tritium> silent_scream, you only need headers to compile modules.
[12:33] <silent_scream> ok but it displays me "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386/ is not a valid kernel source tree."
[12:33] <soeme> hello
[12:33] <Fujitsu> Hi soeme.
[12:33] <soeme> german speaking?
[12:33] <tritium> !de
[12:33] <ubotu> it has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:34] <soeme> thanks....
[12:34] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:35] <edo> help x kaffein anyone may help me ?
[12:35] <robotgeek> Fujitsu: lirc-modules-sources recommends either kernel-headers | kernel-source
[12:35] <soeme> !enlightenment
[12:35] <ubotu> enlightenment is, like, totally, at Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105
[12:35] <Fujitsu> Why is it wanting a kernel source then!?
[12:35] <Seveas> robotgeek, linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:35] <robotgeek> silent_scream: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:35] <ardchoille> Someone told me Ubuntu 5.10 was simply Debian sid with a changed name. Is that even remotely true?
[12:36] <Pres-Gas> Are the fonts installed in ubuntu in a different location than debian?
[12:36] <tritium> no, ardchoille
[12:36] <silent_scream> robotgeek, i have them installed.
[12:36] <robotgeek> Seveas: not me, silent_scream wants to compile lirc-modules-source
[12:36] <Pres-Gas> I am getting "could not init font path element" on vnc
[12:36] <ardchoille> tritium: ok, thanks
[12:36] <Oceansblue> anyone running flightgear
[12:37] <Seveas> silent_scream, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) gcc-3.4 build-essential module-assistant
[12:37] <Seveas> sudo module-assistant
[12:37] <silent_scream> Seveas, i have installed all of them
[12:37] <Seveas> silent_scream, then simply use module-assistant
[12:37] <recon0> fujitsu, i can't install  linux-resricted-modules-686
[12:37] <Fujitsu> recon0, why not?
[12:38] <recon0> fujitsu, it depends on a package, and when i try to install that package it says it depends on linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 but isn't installable
[12:38] <Fujitsu> recon0, linux-restricted-modules-386 if you are running the default kernel.
[12:38] <recon0> oh
[12:38] <silent_scream> Seveas, module assistand also  displays errors.
[12:39] <silent_scream> Seveas, take a look http://pastebin.ca/32430
[12:39] <nekostar> arg
[12:39] <nekostar> ok on this comp i had a sound.. o crap nvm
[12:39] <Trashcan> where is the proper place to put modprobe ndiswrapper on boot?
[12:40] <macd> make that into a shell script, then place it in /etc/init.d then run update-rc.d scriptnamehere
[12:40] <Trashcan> ok
[12:40] <Trashcan> thanks
[12:40] <Seveas> silent_scream, install bttv
[12:40] <nekostar> shyt
[12:40] <nekostar> yeah ok so i get this beating sound
[12:40] <nekostar> is there a way to tell ubuntu to totally reconfigure sound like it does when it installs?
[12:41] <nekostar> an equivalent to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:41] <recon0> fujitsu, i'm going to restart x now, brb
[12:41] <nekostar> WOW
[12:41] <silent_scream> Seveas, how ? by synaptic ?
[12:41] <hyphnated> Trashcan: or throw it in /etc/modules
[12:41] <nekostar> it reconfigured itself!!!!!
[12:41] <nekostar> wtf
[12:42] <hoopdr> +b -b -o +o hahehehahehehhahehehehaha
[12:42] <nekostar> lol hoopdr
[12:42] <Xenguy> nekostar: yes, that's a little flourish I threw in :-)
[12:42] <macd> hyphenated, yeah that would be much easier I suppsed
[12:42] <nekostar> Xenguy, you did that???????
[12:42] <hoopdr> irc truly is the playground of dreams
[12:42] <nekostar> DUDE  <3
[12:42] <macd> s/suppsed/suppose
[12:42] <Xenguy> nekostar: heheh
[12:42] <Seveas> silent_scream, yes
[12:42] <nekostar> hey i was wondering Xenguy
[12:42] <Seveas> sigh
[12:43] <nekostar> who does the torrent stuff for ubuntu?
[12:43] <nekostar> someone needs to um
[12:43] <nekostar> stabb
[12:43] <nekostar> or something
[12:43] <nekostar> but beyond that
[12:43] <Xenguy> nekostar: no idea, I'm not a Ubu developer or anything
[12:43] <nekostar> have you played with utorrent in windows ever?
[12:43] <nekostar> totally superior client..
[12:43] <nekostar> !_!
[12:43] <ubotu> nekostar: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:43] <Seveas> nekostar, offtopicness in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:43] <Xenguy> nope, haven't gotten around to torrent yet
[12:44] <nekostar> eh sorry Seveas
[12:44] <xfree> is it safe to remove firefox - +yelp - ?
[12:44] <silent_scream> Seveas, synaptic can't find bttv!
[12:44] <Xenguy> nekostar: utorrent eh?
[12:44] <nekostar> Seveas, who would i talk to about porting something like that?
[12:44] <nekostar> yeah
[12:44] <Seveas> !find bttv
[12:44] <Talisker> Hi, I've.. made a stupid mistake and I need your help fixing it
[12:44] <rubem> hi theere
[12:44] <nekostar> lets go to offtopic i guess
[12:44] <Fujitsu> Hrm... recon0 seems to be taking his time...
[12:44] <Talisker> I installed grub, and I wanted it to be the main boot loader, so I installed it on HDA, and now the system won't boot
[12:44] <rubem> how can i see how much memory my apps are consuming?
[12:44] <Talisker> Hi, I've.. made a stupid mistake and I need your help fixing it
[12:44] <Seveas> xfree, if you don't want them: sure
[12:44] <Fujitsu> Talisker, what does it do?
[12:44] <_jason> xfree, it is safe, but you will not have yelp (you will also lose the add-applications menu option).  yelp show's you help.
[12:44] <SataDmaProblem> hello, i have problem with my SATA, actually, when i am copying something to my hdd, from, i don't know, dvd or other partition, transfer is about 2mb/s. i think that is because UDMA is not enabled. how can i enable it ?
[12:44] <macd> rubem, top works well
[12:44] <Talisker> what does what do?
[12:44] <rodro> alguien habla espaol
[12:45] <rubem> macd?
[12:45] <Seveas> SataDmaProblem, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/your_drive
[12:45] <Seveas> !es
[12:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:45] <Fujitsu> Talisker, what errors does it give, if any?
[12:45] <macd> rubem, the comand 'top'
[12:45] <rubem> macd thank you
[12:45] <dAndy> I am following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[12:45] <rubem> macd is there a GUI for that?
[12:46] <dAndy> is it normal for the debootstrap command to take a while
[12:46] <SataDmaProblem> problem:  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/your_drive
[12:46] <Seveas> dAndy, yes
[12:46] <masingerz> yo rodro
[12:46] <SataDmaProblem> wow...
[12:46] <SataDmaProblem> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[12:46] <macd> I think the ubuntu desktop has under the system menu --> administration -->systemmonitor
[12:46] <Seveas> SataDmaProblem, replayce /dev/your_drive with the actual name of the device
[12:46] <Max> Hi
[12:46] <HrdwrBoB> er
[12:46] <xfree> Seveas, _jason  i will install it again later after i install firefox 1.5
[12:46] <nalioth> Seveas: yes, i dont either, BUT i'd rather have a 'safe' one out there that is advertised by the ubuntu community than the unsafe shit that existed prior
[12:46] <HrdwrBoB> SATA doesn't use 'DMA' with hdparm
[12:47] <nalioth> bah
[12:47] <Seveas> nalioth, true, I'll have a look :)
[12:47] <HrdwrBoB> there's no need (and indeed no ability) to set it
[12:47] <Seveas> xfree, that's not possible yet
[12:47] <Max> Hello
[12:47] <_jason> xfree, will you be installing firefox through a package manager?
[12:48] <SataDmaProblem> Seveas, i know that, /dev/sda
[12:48] <SataDmaProblem> /dev/sda:
[12:48] <SataDmaProblem>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[12:48] <SataDmaProblem>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[12:48] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: DMA is alreadu enabled
[12:48] <HrdwrBoB> you can't do that
[12:48] <HrdwrBoB> are you reading what I'm saying?
[12:48] <Seveas> SataDmaProblem, indeed, I'm stupid, listen to HrdwrBoB :)
[12:48] <Max> Any body ever got stuck in the partioner, in beetween manual partion, sofware raid LVM and guided partitioning?
[12:49] <nekostar> dam this thing is so pimp
[12:49] <nekostar> hehe
[12:49] <nekostar> i changed all the hardware around and its totally good with it
[12:49] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, but my processor is working with 100%, why that?
[12:49] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: if you are copying data it still uses the CPU
[12:50] <dAndy> Seveas: so debootstrap is sitting at: I: Checking component main on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu...
[12:50] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: you might be in a high wait state
[12:50] <dAndy> and has been for > 10min
[12:50] <Xappe> xfree: actually, no need for removal. check: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/ and change the file names to the new release files of firefox
[12:50] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: what are you doing
[12:50] <dAndy> strace shows no activity, just stalled on a read
[12:50] <dAndy> restarting the process doesnt help
[12:51] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, what do yo mean? when I'm copying data, i can't do anything else..
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: from/to the drive?
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> and it's showing 100% CPU utilisation?
[12:52] <HrdwrBoB> why you run 'top', what is the distribution of CPU usage
[12:52] <Talisker> Is there anyway to mount my hard drives from the livecd without editing fstab?
[12:52] <SataDmaProblem> from DVD/CD to hard disk
[12:52] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, from DVD/CD to hard disk
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> SataDmaProblem: so, perhaps you need DMS enabled *ON THE CD*
[12:53] <Mother> hi people
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> DMA
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> not on the hard drive
[12:53] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, or even from one partition to another
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> what is the CD device
[12:53] <Xappe> Talisker: use the "mount" command
[12:53] <Mother> just so you know the sort of guy you have here
[12:53] <Mother> http://www.sonar-security.com/tony-montanna-mainchan.log
[12:53] <khalif> Hello to all! :0
[12:53] <khalif> :)
[12:53] <Talisker> Xappe, mount won't let me mount anything that's not in fstab
[12:53] <xfree> _jason, yes firefox1.5.deb
[12:54] <_jason> xfree, can I ask you where you found it?
[12:54] <Mother> he's insulting everyone on other channels, now he goes by proffesional-hac
[12:54] <proffesional-hac> no i am only insulting lammers on remote-exploit
[12:54] <khalif> Where could I get some help with installing icons in KDE?
[12:54] <proffesional-hac> mother is a pedofile
[12:54] <Xappe> Talisker: sudo mount -t <fileystem> -o <options> <drive> <mountpoint>
[12:55] <Mother> roffle you've been banned from #remote-exploit, and you're abusing us on #whax
[12:55] <khalif> Total noob here ;)
[12:55] <xfree> _jason, this bulid.sh tool create it for me after i download it from mozilla firefox.tgz
[12:55] <SataDmaProblem> HrdwrBoB, was that question for me? i have LG cdrw and NEC dvdrw...but...why is that important?
[12:55] <Mother> don't want to spill this over, have a good one guys
[12:55] <_jason> xfree, ok well firefox1.5 isn't officially supported so proceed at your own risk
[12:55] <xfree> _jason, you can found about it on wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <khalif> Seveas: where could I find some help on installing icons in KDE?
[12:56] <Seveas> khalif, #kubuntu maybe if no one in here can help
[12:57] <khalif> Seveas: Thank you...much appreciated!
[12:58] <barongas> How do I mount an ntfs drive as rw?
[12:58] <Seveas> barongas, you can't
[12:58] <barongas> Seveas, is there any way to transfer files between my ubuntu drive and my ntfs drive then?
[12:59] <Seveas> barongas, use explore2fs on windows
[12:59] <Hentai^XP2> ifs
[12:59] <barongas> Seveas, explore2fs will detect my ext3 drives?
[12:59] <Seveas> yes
[12:59] <barongas> Seveas, sweet, thanks
[01:00] <Hentai^XP2> barongas http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:00] <Talisker> err..
[01:01] <Talisker> which of the files in /boot is actually the kernel?
[01:01] <Talisker> vmlinuz?
[01:01] <lllmanulll> Yep
[01:01] <Red-Sox> this channel is overwhelmed
[01:01] <Red-Sox> ubuntu is crazy popular
[01:01] <cafuego> Is it? I didn't mean to!
[01:01] <Seveas> Talisker, vmlinuz-* are kernels
[01:02] <Seveas> :)
[01:02] <cafuego> He's sleep in g on my couch atm :-)
[01:03] <barongas> partition hdc1 would in grubs menu.lst transfer to hd2,0 ?
[01:03] <misfit_toy> what will they think of next? a couch atm, withdraw money while watching tv and/or napping
[01:03] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah barongas it should
[01:04] <barongas> FliesLikeABrick, thanks.
[01:04] <starscalling> yay
[01:04] <starscalling> ok
[01:04] <starscalling> so is there a tool to just make ubuntu the second install ?
[01:04] <starscalling> from windows
[01:05] <starscalling> or do i need something special to deal with the ntfs for the install
[01:05] <Fujitsu> !enter
[01:05] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:05] <RedRose> how do i connect to X11:1 over the net?
[01:05] <cafuego> starscalling: Linux and NTFS are not fiends.
[01:05] <Seveas> cafuego, ghe, the new usplash is.... funny :)
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> second install?
[01:05] <starscalling> eh i c
[01:05] <cafuego> Seveas: :-)
[01:05] <nelo> Hello, I am trying to burn a VIDEO_TS to a dvd, however, nautilus tells me that there is not enough space. The file size = 4.1 gigs, which should fit in the DVD. The actual error message is "file image creation failed"
[01:05] <nelo> any ideas?
[01:06] <starscalling> Dr_Willis i was thinking perhaps i could just make ubuntu the second os on this computer.. as there are still things that are easier to do in windows for me than constantly figure out in ubuntu... because my learning curve is eh not the greatest at times :)
[01:06] <khalif> Nobody over @ #kubuntu is talking. Could someone help me out for a sec?
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> nelo,  try a sample/test with a smaller sized file.
[01:06] <cafuego> starscalling: Yes, you can install it as second OS without ANY problems.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> starscalling,  Dual booting Linux/Windows is easy. Thats what "GRUB" is all about.
[01:06] <starscalling> ah
[01:07] <starscalling> so what tool do i need to trim the ntfs drive ?
[01:07] <shelika> yes khalif?
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> "personally" i perfer to have windows and linux each on their own totally seperate hard drives.
[01:07] <khalif> I would like to install some new icons in KDE, but they're all png's...
[01:07] <starscalling> hum...
[01:07] <Seveas> starscalling, the ubuntu installer can do that for you
[01:07] <starscalling> naw 20 gigs for windows should be fine :)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> i thought the ubuntu installer had a resize ntfs feature.. but you Will want to scandisk/Defrat the Windows drive first.
[01:08] <starscalling> Seveas it will trim the ntfs partition to make room for the ubuntu partition?
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> and theres always risks.. backup anything Imporntant.. (always a good idea)
[01:08] <khalif> how can I install them using the icon manager since they're not packaged?
[01:08] <starscalling> or should i now that im in windows convert it all to fat32>?
[01:08] <starscalling> or try :P
[01:08] <macd> Starfire, you dont want to convert your NTFS to FAT32
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> khalif,  install them to do what? :P i just normally make a /home/username/icons dir.
[01:08] <dAndy> Seveas: you were right in the end, debootstrap finally got of its butt and finished :)
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> khalif,  or track down some icon 'themes' to replace the system icons
[01:09] <shelika> khalif: and are they global or app specific?
[01:10] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, you there?
[01:10] <khalif> See I thought that I had some, but they're not bundled together as a theme. I have both....
[01:10] <khalif> I found them on Yellowicon.com
[01:10] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, well... my touchpad came to life for some reason!
[01:10] <starscalling> macd why wouldt i wanna convert it to fat32?
[01:10] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, do you have any idea what could have caused that?
[01:11] <starscalling> i know there is native linux support for fat32 is all
[01:11] <khalif> So I should just make a folder in my home foldeer to store my icons and the icon manager can pull them from there?
[01:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> john_, you probably have a bad connection on the ribbon cable that connects it to the mainboard
[01:11] <The_Isle_of_Mark> john_, I dont know that it would be reliable
[01:11] <shelika> yes, you should khalif
[01:11] <khalif> The icons come in folders for all of their different sizes.....
[01:11] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, thats not good
[01:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> john_, it isnt, you are right
[01:12] <khalif> One more question....
[01:12] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, so is that a hard thing to access in general?
[01:12] <The_Isle_of_Mark> john_, really depends on the model. Sorry, but I am fixing dinner so I have to go for a while
[01:12] <john_> The_Isle_of_Mark, ok thanks for your help
[01:13] <khalif> I found some system themes of KDE-look.org that I downloaded. I installed theme using theme manager, but when I applied theme nothing happened. Do you think that the theme could've been messed up?
[01:13] <krix> hello there.
[01:14] <khalif> hello krix
[01:14] <shelika> could be, but I doubt it
[01:14] <krix> if i want to create a package for a firefox extension (from a .xpi file) then what i need to do for that ? I mean i see an install.rdf in the XPI file but can not figure out what can i do with that ?
[01:14] <krix> any example packages or some url about this article ?
[01:14] <macd> starscalling,  NTFS is a vast improvemt over FAT32 in speed, reliability and security, why would you "downgrade" that just to be linux compat on your filesystem?  It doesnt make sense to me
[01:14] <Seveas> krix, you'd better look on the ffox website
[01:14] <krix> Seveas, hm, maybe you are right, i just only thought that somebody here made some ubuntu package form some extenstion and i can see an example ;)
[01:14] <_jason> krix, did you try opening the file with firefox?
[01:15] <krix> _jason, i want to package the extension.
[01:15] <_jason> krix, never mind, thought you just wanted to install
[01:15] <krix> not install as user.
[01:15] <soundray> macd, depending on one's priorities, Linux compatibility could be reason enough...
[01:15] <krix> _jason, ;)
[01:15] <khalif> I don't have a way to connect to the net using the laptop which is what I have Kubuntu on. I use my iMac. Do you think that the theme isn't working because the laptop isn't connected to the net?
[01:15] <_jason> krix, good luck :)
[01:15] <macd> soundray, then one should have 2 machines and use samba
[01:16] <shelika> no, don't think that's the problem khalif
[01:16] <krix> _jason, thanks. :)
[01:16] <jirwin> hello
[01:16] <soundray> macd, I for one am much happier with FAT32 because I only ever use Windows if I get an attachment that I can't refuse and that Openoffice chokes on.
[01:16] <jirwin> I am running breezy, trying to get an atheros 5212 wifi card working
[01:16] <jirwin> it detects that it is there
[01:16] <soundray> s/refuse/reject/
[01:16] <chrisx2> .
[01:17] <chrisx2> 0
[01:17] <chrisx2> +--
[01:17] <chrisx2> ....2*
[01:17] <gnomefreak> this is weird
[01:17] <chrisx2> ********+
[01:17] <macd> soundray, good enough reason for you then I guess ;)
[01:17] <khalif> The theme that I downloaded was "KDE X" off of KDE-look.org; It's supposed to give the desktop the OS X appearance...
[01:17] <jirwin> but, it isn't able to pickup dhcp or scan for ssid
[01:18] <jirwin> when I do lspci i get  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)
[01:18] <soundray> macd, also in my experience, if a FAT32 system does have a problem, it's easier to fix than if an NTFS one does.
[01:18] <khalif> You think that I have to set permissions for the file maybe since I copied it from my iMac to the laptop?
[01:18] <jirwin> now I know the chipset that it is on my laptop, is there a way to specify which one to use
[01:19] <jirwin> it looks like it didn't pick that up on installation
[01:19] <jirwin> i am using madwifi
[01:19] <barongas> Hmmm, the multibooting didn't work. It says Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 and then does nothing
[01:20] <gnomefreak> does ubuntu have an auto fix grub off live cd? like pop it in and it will fix grub or do i still have to use /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> live cd or install either
[01:21] <bob832> just noticed the channel topic and was wondering, any particular reason firefox 1.5 will not be in breezy?  is it a bad thing to install it?
[01:21] <kbrooks> no
[01:21] <cyphase> Why does the update icon come up for accounts that can't update?
[01:21] <cyphase> i.e. don't have permission
[01:21] <soundray> jirwin, I think there is a way to modify the madwifi source to make a device known to the driver. Have you read http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi and linked pages therein?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> bob832, its not gonna be in ubuntus backports cause its not stable enough for ubuntu
[01:22] <korhalf|CS> hows the midi support for ubuntu?>
[01:22] <kbrooks> bob832, breezy is frozen. no new application(s)
[01:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, huh?
[01:22] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, explain
[01:22] <bob832> oh, i am running it now with no problem
[01:22] <gnomefreak> kbrooks, my understanding is its not stable enough for ubuntu to backport them yet but they might be backported at a later date
[01:22] <khalif> Hey gnomefreak, I just wanted to thank you for all of your help yesterday!
[01:22] <jirwin> soundray: no I haven't...reading now
[01:22] <barongas> cyphase, only root can update and most people aren't logged in as root, but rather use the password to update
[01:22] <soundray> gnomefreak, bob832, I think it's not ff itself, but some of the dependencies that are considered unstable.
[01:22] <cyphase> barongas, i know..
[01:23] <bimberi> cyphase: good question.  so they can nag the sysadmin i guess :P
[01:23] <Seveas> soundray, almost :)
[01:23] <cyphase> but there are accounts that can't even sudo
[01:23] <kbrooks> so?
[01:23] <barongas> cyphase, oh, I didn' know that
[01:23] <Seveas> firefox1.5 would require recompilations from things in main
[01:23] <kbrooks> Seveas, ... why?
[01:23] <Seveas> and since things in main cannot link against things in backports, this is a no-go
[01:23] <kbrooks> Seveas, thats insane
[01:23] <gnomefreak> kbrooks,  you asked me to explain i did
[01:23] <khalif> I finally figured out why Ubuntu was coming up..... there is a bug in it with the drum sound that plays when the useer/pass screen appears.
[01:23] <cyphase> so they shouldn't be bothered by it
[01:23] <Seveas> kbrooks, firefox api and abi changed massively
[01:24] <_jason> khalif, I think it is suppose to do that
[01:24] <kbrooks> Seveas, backward compat is important
[01:24] <soundray> jirwin, HTH. I got madwifi to work with the help of this page before it started working out of the box.
[01:24] <gnomefreak> bongo sound :)
[01:24] <bob832> so is it safe to run 1.5 in ubuntu?
[01:24] <os2mac> hi all can someone give me a hand trying to configure a pcmcia nic (DWL-630) on a dell inspiron 8000
[01:24] <trendkill> hey guys, i just nuked my system when i did a dd /dev/hdc instead of a dd /dev/hdc1...i realized it only 10 seconds into the operation...is there a chance i can recover a partition that is further down the hardrive^
[01:24] <thrice`> Seveas: and doesn't ubuntu use binary anyways?
[01:24] <Seveas> bob832, if you install it from mozilla sources into /usr/local: fairly safe
[01:24] <Seveas> thrice`, libraries...
[01:24] <khalif> I had to go into the GRUB and add some thing called "irqpoll" to the kernal boot. After I did that, it started right up for me... :)
[01:24] <kbrooks> thrice`, src -> binary
[01:25] <Seveas> yelp for instance uses a firefox library
[01:25] <soundray> bob832, well, it's very unlikely to ruin your system if you got it to work in the first place...
[01:25] <_jason> bob832, it's safe but follow the wiki
[01:25] <Seveas> ff1.5 in backports would mean yelp unusable
[01:25] <bob832> don't really remember how i did it - found a how to on the forums
[01:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, yes i see
[01:25] <dell500> just wondering, but what app makes the taskbar work?
[01:25] <rubem> which is the name of the package for compiling things?  build-essencials?
[01:25] <Seveas> build-essential
[01:25] <gnomefreak> rubem,  no s
[01:25] <cyphase> Seveas, but isn't backports for tech-savvy users
[01:25] <cyphase> if they enable it
[01:25] <kbrooks> Seveas, how did the devekioers figure out that the firefix api changed
[01:25] <cyphase> they should know the conseqquences
[01:25] <cyphase> :)
[01:25] <Seveas> cyphase, no, for 1337-ricer-bleeding-edge users, who on average are not tech savvy
[01:26] <Axioein> Could some one help me talking to serial ports? I am being denied.
[01:26] <cyphase> Seveas, ah
[01:26] <kbrooks> Seveas, elite&
[01:26] <khalif> I decided to go with kubuntu though; much easier.... at least it will be when I figure out how to install these themes and icons correctly!
[01:26] <kbrooks> er, *
[01:26] <khalif> :) :)
[01:26] <shelik1> khalif: lol
[01:26] <gnomefreak> khalif,  lol
[01:27] <khalif> I can't wait til I can graduate from being a NOOB!
[01:27] <rubem> gnomefreak build-essencial ?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[01:27] <rubem> gnamefreak thank you
[01:27] <khalif> I have one last question and then I'll quit bothering you guys...
[01:28] <starscalling> bah
[01:28] <soundray> khalif, it may never happen. I've been using Linux since kernel 1.2.9, but it just develops faster than I can keep up with...
[01:28] <starscalling> keep em comin
[01:28] <gnomefreak> rubem,  your welcome but Seveas told you the answer way up there
[01:28] <kbrooks> khalif, a stupid question is one not asked
[01:28] <khalif> The package manager... that's for managing the libraries that Ubuntu uses right?
[01:28] <Seveas> kbrooks, crap
[01:28] <Seveas> that means I have tons of stupid questions :/
[01:28] <Xenguy> khalif: dependencies
[01:28] <kbrooks> khalif, no
[01:28] <gnomefreak> khalif, thats for gettting software :)
[01:29] <kbrooks> khalif, not just libraries*
[01:29] <kbrooks> Seveas, heh
[01:29] <Seveas> khalif, libraries and all other packages
[01:29] <gnomefreak> khalif, the package manager lists software avalible from your sources
[01:29] <Axioein> Can I write a file to a serial port?
[01:29] <soundray> Axioein, sure.
[01:29] <Seveas> Axioein, cat file >> /dev/ttyS0
[01:29] <Xenguy> Axioein: what are you trying to do?
[01:30] <khalif> See I was looking for some web development software to use since I can't use dreamwweaver in ubuntu and I didn't see any thing in the package manager....
[01:30] <bimberi> khalif: nvu
[01:30] <Seveas> khalif, nvu and screem are popular
[01:30] <soundray> khalif, check out screem
[01:30] <gnomefreak> khalif,  depends what you want to write
[01:30] <Xenguy> khalif: nvu seems to be something newish
[01:30] <Seveas> vim!
[01:30] <gnomefreak> lol @vim
[01:30] <bimberi> lol Seveas
[01:30] <Xenguy> vi!
[01:30] <Axioein> I am writting an small application in perl to read serial data... but the device that communicates over the serial port isn't with me.
[01:30] <khalif> What would those be under in the package manager?
[01:30] <soundray> ed!
[01:30] <ajmitch> Seveas: no wars here please :)
[01:31] <Seveas> !start an editor war
[01:31] <ubotu> gedit is better than xemacs.
[01:31] <Seveas> ajmitch, ;)
[01:31] <Xenguy> haha
[01:31] <gnomefreak> khalif,  there should be a search you can do
[01:31] <Axioein> So I am trying to emulate the data that is being sent.
[01:31] <khalif> ok...
[01:31] <soundray> ubotu: no way!
[01:31] <ubotu> soundray: No idea
[01:31] <_jason> notepad under wine!
[01:31] <soundray> See, I knew it.
[01:31] <soundray> echo <html> >homepage.html
[01:32] <Seveas> soundray, html: file not found
[01:32] <linux_newb> ive just installed ubuntu.  i downloaded xmms and im trying to play mp3s but its really quiet, is there another volume control somewhere
[01:32] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: keyboard kung-fu they call it; too busy for me
[01:32] <Seveas> (hint: quote the tag)
[01:32] <soundray> Seveas, :)
[01:32] <khalif> I just want to be able to so some PHP, XHTML and CSS programming for right now on the laptop. all my ActionScript will be done on my iMac....
[01:32] <gnomefreak> Xenguy, lol
[01:32] <misfit_toy> !mp3
[01:32] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[01:33] <Axioein> Thanks Seveas. I was trying to pipe it rather then append it.
[01:33] <bimberi> linux_newb: try double-clicking on the volume applet and look for the PCM control
[01:33] <gnomefreak> khalif, if using kde kdevelop iis a good starter IDE if your starting out its graphical :)
[01:33] <Axioein> I see the folly of my ways.
[01:33] <soundray> Axioein, just curious: what's at the end of your serial port?
[01:33] <Seveas> Any UK residents here who have a spare Breezy CD?
[01:33] <khalif> Would kdevelop be in the package manager?
[01:33] <soundray> Seveas, yep!
[01:33] <misfit_toy> linux_newb, try typing "alsamixer" in a terminal and cranking anything not cranked
[01:34] <khalif> Or would I have to go online to get it?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> khalif, yes in kubuntu
[01:34] <gnomefreak> and ubuntu
[01:34] <Seveas> soundray, can I pm you?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> khalif,  packagemanager
[01:34] <khalif> Ok, thanks gnomefreak!
[01:34] <linux_newb> ok thnx
[01:34] <soundray> Seveas, sure, do I have to do something (still an IRC newbie)?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> khalif,  no problem
[01:34] <khalif> Talk to you guys later!
[01:35] <gnomefreak> khalif,  there really not a lot of packages to get from net unless you want an extra
[01:35] <gnomefreak> you have to*
[01:35] <Axioein> Soundray: It is a CTD
[01:35] <Axioein> Conductivity, Temperature. Depth sensor
[01:35] <soundray> Axioein, not that that makes me smarter...
[01:35] <soundray> Axioein, okay.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> is there a way to use the install cd to fix grub sutomatically without reinstalling ubuntu?
[01:36] <Axioein> Soundray: Also there will be a flow meter, compass, and gps.
[01:36] <linux_newb> hmmm ok i did that, and its louder, but surely it can go louder?
[01:36] <jenda> gnomefreak: just stop it after the grub install?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> linux_newb, try turning you speakers up too
[01:37] <linux_newb> yes they are at max
[01:37] <gnomefreak> jenda,  thats after the system is installed
[01:37] <ramza3> what is the difference between synaptic removal and complete removal
[01:37] <Axioein> Soundray: I am going to Antarctica with a sled that gets towed through the water and I am collecting the data.
[01:37] <soundray> Axioein, seriously?
[01:38] <Pablo> o.O
[01:38] <Axioein> soundray: Seriously.
[01:38] <chrisx2> how do i use ./ with sudo ?
[01:38] <soundray> Axioein, well I'm glad you're not relying on some commercial OS.
[01:38] <dishfish> Axioein : Antarctica WOW send me some photos of penguins!
[01:38] <os2mac> anyone around to help with some hardware oddities?
[01:39] <nalioth> chrisx2: sudo ./file
[01:39] <Seveas> !tell os2mac about anyone
[01:39] <john_> os2mac, yes
[01:39] <Axioein> soundray, I am hoping that this way is easier... rather than messing around with VB... which always reminds me of VD (also it is a touch more stable).
[01:39] <chrisx2> nalioth, it doesnt work...
[01:39] <dishfish> Axioein what data do u collect?
[01:39] <os2mac> problems connecting to the lan using a DWL-630 pcmcia wireless nic (atheros chipset)
[01:39] <nalioth> chrisx2: is the file "executable"?
[01:39] <Techie_dude> .can someone help me with something please
[01:39] <chrisx2> sudo: ./xfce4-4.2.2-installer.bin: command not found
[01:40] <Seveas> os2mac, try the latest drivers
[01:40] <robotgeek> os2mac: is it the airplus card?
[01:40] <soundray> dishfish, conductivity, temperature, depth :)
[01:40] <Axioein> I am sure someone can Techie_dude
[01:40] <Seveas> os2mac, see the madwifi page on the wiki
[01:40] <gnomefreak> .bin isnt executable is it?
[01:40] <nalioth> chrisx2: "chmod +x xfce4<tab>"
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> .bin means nothing
[01:40] <os2mac> I just recompiled and did the madwifi thing and nothing corrected
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> its just a commn extension for 'self installing files' tht are ment to be 'ran'
[01:40] <Techie_dude> okay... i am downloading Thunder bird from the mozilla website.okay. after i use the tar command to unzip it what do i do
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x whatever.bin     sh ./whatever.bin
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, .bin=binary
[01:41] <macd> Techie_dude, have you consulted the documentation included with ThunderBird?
[01:41] <Telep> Hmm, I'm sort of getting anxious. I just replaced my laptod HDD because the old one failed, but I'm still getting the same weird behaviour as before, constant HDD activity
[01:41] <soundray> Techie_dude, are you running Ubuntu?
[01:41] <chrisx2> ty Dr_Willis  it worked
[01:41] <Axioein> Techie_dude: why not use apt-get  to install it.... or synaptic?
[01:41] <bimberi> gnomefreak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113 (not tried it myself tho)
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  .bin - dosnet really mean much of anything actually. :P it could benamed  whynot.runme.
[01:41] <Techie_dude> yes yes i am
[01:41] <nalioth> gnomefreak: a bin is also a container file
[01:42] <Techie_dude> and yes i have consulted it before and it dosen't help at all
[01:42] <soundray> Techie_dude, ^ Axioein
[01:42] <Seveas> Techie_dude, then don't download it from a website, but use the package manager to install the Ubuntu thunderbird package
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> a .bin file could be just a fancy script.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, isnt the reason its labled.bin is to let you know its a binary file?
[01:42] <Techie_dude> okay....still could you tel me how to do it so i can do files like this in the future?
[01:42] <nalioth> gnomefreak: no. a bin can be and executable or a conatainer file
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  not really.. its just an annoying practice.. technicially isent EVERY file a 'binary' file?
[01:42] <jenda> gnomefreak: I meant the grub install
[01:42] <linux_newb> im having problems setting up samba to share a windows network drive, is there and easier way to send files
[01:43] <macd> typicaly after you un archive a file, you would configure then make it
[01:43] <Techie_dude> okay
[01:43] <macd> ^^was directed at Techie_dude
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  what problems?
[01:43] <barongas> Anyone a grub-ninja? I can't get my windoze hd to work at all
[01:43] <Techie_dude> .....i tried red hat and it dosen't stand up to ubuntu i hate they way they use GNOME
[01:43] <soundray> linux_newb, to access files on a Win box, you don't need Samba.
[01:43] <linux_newb> well i'm trying to follow the instructions but im such a n00b and its confusing
[01:43] <gnomefreak> jenda,  yes i know but the partion is before the grub install so i would have to run through partion and system base install first
[01:43] <Techie_dude> it is just an ugly os
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  i normally instll samba, then use 'sudo passwd -a USERYouwanttoAccessShares' then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:44] <macd> Techie_dude, redhat and ubuntu are the same OS, packaged differently
[01:44] <linux_newb> does samba need to be on the windows box too?
[01:44] <linux_newb> :-S
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  im not sure how the default samba setup for ubuntu sets user passwords.. but i normally set the wndws xp users  and linux passwords to be the same. (easier for my wife to rember)
[01:44] <Techie_dude> i know but redhat is ugly
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> samba is the linux Implentation of the windows "network neighbothood stuff"
[01:44] <jenda> gnomefreak: run expert?
[01:45] <salvador> HI
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  so thats a NO. :P
[01:45] <soundray> Dr_Willis, are you sure he needs samba and not just smbfs?
[01:45] <salvador> i canot acces my usb Drive
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  so thats a No.. its allready there.
[01:45] <S_Gramps> Hello
[01:45] <linux_newb> ok
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> soundray,  i cant say that ive ever just installed/used smbfs to be honest.
[01:45] <gratuit> Dr_Willis: I don't think the default ubuntu samba set up creates samba passwords at all, I think you have to do it manually
[01:46] <edo> anyone use dvb skystar2 ?
[01:46] <salvador> i canot acces my usb Drive how can I acces to it?
[01:46] <dataangel> Problem: I was trying to add myself to a group with usermod from the command line, and I accidentally made it so I'm not a member of any groups. This means I can't use sudo. How do I get sudo back without sudo rights? :P
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> gratuit,  yea.. thats a bit annoying at times.. and also I belvive the default samba setup makes the HOMES to be "read only" which i have to fix also.
[01:46] <linux_newb> well all i need to do for now is move a few files over, is there a program that will just do that
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> linux_newb,  easy way. install the ssh server, and on windows box use the 'winscp' client
[01:47] <bimberi> dataangel: boot into recovery mode and put yourself back in the groups (esp. "admin" for sudo access)
[01:47] <soundray> salvador, can you see it listed when you enter lsusb in a terminal?
[01:47] <dataangel> bimberi: k, thx
[01:47] <burnhamd> hey guys  I got a problem with samba
[01:47] <linux_newb> okay
[01:47] <salvador> YES
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> its a samba fest!
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:47] <dataangel> bimberi: Does recovery mode ask for a password?
[01:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> salvador: What distro are you using, whats the drive formated as, and is it plugged in, on, etc?
[01:47] <linux_newb> how do i go about installing ssh
[01:47] <bimberi> dataangel: no
[01:47] <jrw146> Question... I've used 5.04 in the passed, but started to install 5.10 on different system. Goes thru the install just fine, but when it first tries to actually load (To say the login screen), it goes totally black. Its an old video card so I don't think its a video issue, but on this system, 5.04 and 5.10 do the same.
[01:47] <macd> linux_newb, apt-get install sshd
[01:47] <jrw146> Any clue as to the cause?
[01:48] <salvador> wen i inserted the USB drive to the usb the icon apears in the desktop but I can not acces to it
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> !info sshd
[01:48] <bimberi> dataangel: it should boot straight to a root shell
[01:48] <linux_newb> ty macd
[01:48] <macd> salvador, its possible the filesystem is not mountable
[01:48] <soundray> salvador, what happens when you click the icon?
[01:48] <salvador> it says that only root can do that
[01:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> salavador: You need to be in root to go into it. Im not exactly sure how to get it to mount otherwise.
[01:48] <Techie_dude> what is a website i can download dapper at?
[01:48] <macd> linux_newb, I may have given you the wrong packagename
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> yea - its not sshd.. i forget what it is.. thats why synaptic has a search function
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:49] <gratuit> Techie_dude: install breezy, then upgrade to dapper
[01:49] <burnhamd> My problem with samba is that I cant seem to join the workgroup
[01:49] <macd> linux_newb, should be apt-get install openssh-server
[01:49] <Techie_dude> how do i upgrade to dapper then?
[01:49] <chrisx2> !pastebin
[01:49] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[01:50] <burnhamd> everything seems right under the config file but they cant see each other
[01:50] <macd> Techie_dude, Im not sure you want to upgrade to dapper, its not so stable
[01:50] <linux_newb> ok
[01:50] <Kayde> i have a problem guy's, my vidio card is 2 hopeless for ubutu, and i have lines at top of my screen, can anyh 1 help with it?
[01:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Error loading font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[01:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What 's up with this error?
[01:50] <gratuit> Techie_dude: if you don't know and can't find out on your own, you prolly don't want to be running a testing distro
[01:50] <Techie_dude> okay
[01:50] <Kayde> sorry, bottom
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  and the video card is a ??
[01:50] <Kayde> w8
[01:50] <Techie_dude> ah...i didn't know it was a test distro...srry
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> a W8 video card?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> :)
[01:50] <macd> you know the volkswagon card ;)
[01:51] <Kayde> ;)
[01:51] <misfit_toy> then it would have bugs
[01:51] <burnhamd> does anyone have a guess at my problem
[01:51] <Kayde> cyber 9525
[01:51] <levander> I'm upgrading to breezy now and am getting all kinds of perl warnings about "check your locale setting".  How screwed am I?
[01:51] <salvador> it says You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents
[01:51] <Kayde> DR Willis its a cyber 9525
[01:51] <Coweater> levander: run locale-gen as root
[01:52] <Coweater> levander: actually it should run a bit later in the update
[01:52] <Techie_dude> how do i switch from gnome to kde
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  old pci card?
[01:52] <Kayde> trident microsystems cyber 9525
[01:52] <Kayde> in my laptop
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> Techie_dude,  at the gdm login screen  - if both are isntalled - check the sessions menu.
[01:52] <levander> Coweater: yeah, but all those packages have already been installed with the locale set incorrectly.  That's how I'm worried about being screwed.
[01:53] <Kayde> i cant change it DR willis
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  ahh a "Trident 9525"
[01:53] <linux_newb> lol excuse my n00bness but how do i get onto root:D
[01:53] <levander> Techie_dude: I think you just install kubuntu-desktop package.
[01:53] <Kayde> ...
[01:53] <bimberi> linux_newb: sudo -i
[01:53] <Coweater> levander: not sure it causes any problems, i've never had any problems and it's always done that
[01:53] <levander> linux_newb: 'sudo -s'
[01:53] <linux_newb> ahh ty ty
[01:53] <levander> Coweater: how many times have you isntalled breezy?
[01:53] <josho> how do i make an account an admin if i deleted the admin account after i created this one
[01:54] <jgrieves> anyone know why my new login in nested window wouldn't work?
[01:54] <jgrieves> is it using Xnest?
[01:54] <Coweater> 5 or 6 i think, does the same thing when i update debian and i've done that quite a few times as well
[01:54] <Kayde> Dr_Willis, i ave a screen shot, want 2 se?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  best bet is to do some googling. there may be some little X tweak ya need todo.
[01:54] <Techie_dude> ....one moer question before i leave...is there a way where i can make my non-root account have superuser privilages without having to type sudo all the time
[01:55] <Coweater> Techie_dude: that would defeat the purpose of sudo
[01:55] <macd> doesnt that defeat the purpose?
[01:55] <Techie_dude> aaah....
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> Techie_dude,  No. :P ya dont want todo that.
[01:55] <Ron_o> Techie_dude:  sudo -s
[01:55] <Coweater> and would be foolish too
[01:55] <Kayde> i am 13, i cant get help from any 1-i have no idea wat to do,.. google it?
[01:55] <salvador> how can I acces my usb drive without loging with root?
[01:55] <levander> Coweater: okay, cool, you'd think somebody would get rid of those warnings or at least note them in the release notes though
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> Techie_dude,  its EVIL! and will blow up the world!
[01:55] <khemir> Techie just do sudo passwd root
[01:55] <Kayde> u mean type problem in google and see wat it says,
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  yes.
[01:55] <Kayde> and todo is...
[01:56] <Techie_dude> okay....like i belive that i'm not a five year old...i'm eleven....probably the youngest person in here
[01:56] <khemir> Techie and now yuo now is root
[01:56] <bimberi> Techie_dude: possible (sudo can be configured with a NOPASSWD option) but, as you can tell by the reaction, not recommended
[01:56] <levander> salvador: umm, i think you can make it so that usb drives are auto-mounted or can be mounted by regular users in /etc/fstab
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  here is a hit on the ubuntu forums i just found.
[01:56] <mconsidine> join #ubuntu
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=291681
[01:56] <jgrieves> anyone know why my new login in nested window wouldn't work? is it using Xnest, becuase xnest seems to run fine
[01:56] <Kayde> ty
[01:56] <sambagirl> is there a fortran and rpg 2-4 compiler for ubuntu?
[01:56] <khemir> Techie sudo first time needs passwrod
[01:56] <macd> yep
[01:56] <levander> Techie_dude: you don't want to be superuser all the time, having to type sudo for commands that require it is intentional, superuser can do a lot of damage
[01:57] <macd> sambagirl, try using synaptic, nd searching for fortran
[01:57] <khemir> sambagirl > apt-cache search rpg
[01:57] <Techie_dude> and also every time i try it wont let me download the decoder or whatever so i can play dvds
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  search the forums for ' Trident 9525  '   may get some other hits as well.
[01:57] <josho> how do i put my user in the admin group if its not already because when i created another account from the admin accont i deleted the original account after
[01:57] <chrisx2> any1 help with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5402
[01:57] <sambagirl> ok thanks for suggestions
[01:57] <josho> therefore i have no admin capabilities
[01:57] <burnhamd> can netbios be used under wine
[01:57] <juan> hola
[01:57] <khemir> hola juan
[01:58] <juan> hola
[01:58] <juan> de donde eres
[01:58] <khemir> burnham > i dont think so
[01:58] <misfit_toy> !espanol
[01:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, misfit_toy
[01:58] <khemir> juan > de MX
[01:58] <bimberi> josho: boot into recovery mode, then "adduser <username to have admin privs> admin"
[01:58] <burnhamd> how do I go about using wins
[01:58] <mconsidine> New here.  Just installed latest dist and trying to get sound working.  Is there a substitute for alsaconf?
[01:58] <burnhamd> on windows
[01:58] <nalioth> !es
[01:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:58] <Kayde> Dr_willis, sry i dont understand mumbojumbo-first time ive used linux,
[01:58] <burnhamd> it was easy on ubuntu
[01:58] <levander> Now I just got a bunch of warning in the breezy upgrade about not being able to delete some fonts directories for X11.  Damn these breezy upgrade scripts are sloppy.
[01:58] <djk_> What's the syntax to change something ubotu knows?
[01:58] <Kayde> i dont get it
[01:58] <josho> how do i do that
[01:58] <chrisx2> any1 help with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5402
[01:59] <macd> chrisx2, you need to run 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:59] <logical_mark> Hey guys what are some good war-driving apps?
[01:59] <khemir> djk????????
[01:59] <jgrieves> anyone know why my new login in nested window wouldn't work? is it using Xnest, becuase xnest seems to run fine
[01:59] <djk_> khemir: ??????
[01:59] <josho> bimberi how do i go into recovery mode
[01:59] <nickrud> djk say ubotu forget factoid, ubotu factoid is
[01:59] <djk_> khemir: unless you have something to actually ask, don't ????? me ;)
[01:59] <khemir> djk > what meaning off
[01:59] <macd> josho, at boot time your presented with a option
[01:59] <sambagirl> you say apt-get rpg cache search?
[01:59] <Epix> Anyone use a firewire sound device on ubuntu? If so, what one and how? Im looking into getting one, im thinking of the presonus firebox... Any suggestions?
[01:59] <bimberi> josho: it should be an option in the grub menu when you boot the PC
[02:00] <josho> oooooo
[02:00] <djk_> nickrud: could you chang the !compile .. the URLs are wrong.
[02:00] <josho> and what is the command?
[02:00] <josho> i want the username to b josho
[02:00] <josho> so lk send the command exactly as i wuld type it in
[02:00] <bimberi> josho: adduser josho admin
[02:00] <_jason> djk_, use: no compile is blah blah blah
[02:00] <djk_> nickrud: i knew about forget/is, thought there was a way to change it without doing that.
[02:00] <chrisx2> W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[02:00] <josho> thanx man
[02:00] <bimberi> josho: np :)
[02:00] <chrisx2> any ideas?
[02:01] <nickrud> djk_, I just work in a dialog window, and cut and paste ;)
[02:01] <djk_> _jason: ah, good to know.
[02:01] <macd> chrisx2: there are planty of hits on the ubuntu forums on fixing that
[02:01] <sambagirl> i am talking about RPG II - IV programming language not role playing games
[02:01] <chrisx2> kk
[02:02] <macd> sambagirl, go into synaptic and search for fortran and RPG you will return packages that you can install
[02:02] <nickrud> djk_, those links exist ??
[02:02] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[02:02] <Seveas> !compiling is <reply> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:02] <ubotu> ...but compiling is already something else...
[02:02] <Kayde> DR_willis, i dont understand the page, its confusing,
[02:03] <djk_> nickrud: yea but no.
[02:03] <sambagirl> who is this wiki?
[02:03] <Seveas> !no compiling is <reply> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:03] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[02:03] <djk_> nickrud: the links in !compile have a . added to them ;)
[02:03] <sambagirl> is this hawaiian?
[02:03] <nickrud> aww, i liked the first compiling factoid
[02:03] <Epix> Anyone got a firewire device?
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Kayde,  they are just saying how to reconfigure the X server. Check the whole forum for  i think this url shows all the hits --->  http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=2801558
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> hmm thtas an odd url.
[02:03] <Kayde> ok
[02:04] <macd> mod_rewrite in the webserver
[02:04] <misfit_toy> is there no simple program to just record video from a webcam? I'm currently using the "motion" project to capture stills as a security device, but I'd like to be able to record simple video from a webcam as well...
[02:04] <macd> ;)
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> 12 different messages about that card.
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> macd,  i was thinking it was using some cookie. :P lol.
[02:04] <macd> Dr_Willis, either is a good guess
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> Well I think - i am going to go bake come CHocklet CHip Cookies!
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:06] <jbroome> tasty
[02:07] <Techie_dude> what is the url to the site that has those extra things that has seveas in it?
[02:07] <misfit_toy> Dr_Willis, are the better with capital H's?
[02:07] <Falstius> anyone running wine on amd64?  I'm trying to do it in a chroot and it is still unhappy.  It also keeps downloading 2005 versions instead of 0.9
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> Yep :P
[02:07] <Seveas> Techie_dude, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> CHewy
[02:07] <Techie_dude> thakyou
[02:07] <misfit_toy> Dr_Willis, CHool
[02:08] <x_or> Anyone know if there is a way to install Ubuntu using chroot, from a running installation of Linux?
[02:08] <korhalf> what's the compose key to get a 1/2 symbol
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> x_or: yes
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> dchroot
[02:08] <korhalf> i know how to get  but what about 1/2?
[02:08] <misfit_toy> korhalf, find and ASCII chart
[02:08] <linux_new1> i just downloaded some nvidia drivers, the instructions say to type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run but it tells me No such file or directory
[02:08] <jgrieves> anyone know why my new login in nested window wouldn't work? is it using Xnest correctly?  How can i load gdm if i just open Xnest :1?
[02:08] <djk_> nickrud: i fixed the typo in compile, now the links exist ;)
[02:09] <Johnson> hi
[02:09] <Johnson> f
[02:09] <burnhamd> linux_new: you need to cd to the directory you downloaded the file to
[02:09] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[02:09] <lightbright> korhalf: how are you ? :)
[02:09] <soundray> Seveas, should I send i386 CDs to this guy?
[02:09] <linux_new1> oh.. its on the desktop
[02:09] <Johnson> is there a way i can download web pages
[02:10] <bob_> does any one now how to download a limewire that will work for ubuntu
[02:10] <djk_> Which are the recommended ATI drivers? Repo or directly ATI?
[02:10] <lightbright> bob_: yes I know
[02:10] <Seveas> djk_, directly ati is no longer sucky
[02:10] <burnhamd> limewire is on the wiki
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I get my externel HD to automount as me, and not root?
[02:10] <Seveas> (actually: it's GOOD)
[02:10] <lightbright> bob_: first, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:10] <bob_> how do i download it
[02:10] <bob_> were it will work
[02:10] <lightbright> bob_: yiu done that yet?
[02:10] <Seveas> !tell djk_ about ati
[02:10] <djk_> Seveas: yea so I heard.
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> djk_: Repo.. the ATI's gave me heck..
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> djk_,  using the repo and the wiki - took me all of 3 lines of cut/pasting and 3 min.
[02:10] <korhalf> lightbright: omfg.
[02:11] <lightbright> korhalf: hello my young friend :)
[02:11] <Johnson> is ther a way to downloading a whole webpages inclusing the links?
[02:11] <Johnson> plz
[02:11] <bob_> idk what that is
[02:11] <Seveas> Dr_Willis, Biscuitian_Warhe: the latest ati drivers do hibernate :)
[02:11] <Seveas> and much more niceness
[02:11] <korhalf> Seveas: beware lightbright was trolling in the previous room i was in: #physics
[02:11] <korhalf> just telling you.
[02:11] <djk_> Seveas: yea i know what ubotu knows :p I just didn't see any recommendation anywhere.
[02:11] <lightbright> bob_: first you need to sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  i always disable  the hibernation stuff :P so no clue there.
[02:11] <bob_> how to i get that?
[02:11] <lightbright> korhalf: be silent! Seveas  and the rest know me from here and they know you are a liar if you claim that
[02:12] <djk_> Biscuitian_Warhe: heck meaning what exactly?
[02:12] <lightbright> korhalf is a troll following me around falsey accusing me
[02:12] <vblanton> is LeeJunFan around?
[02:12] <korhalf> lightbright: want me to copy and paste the type of things you were saying from the previous room?
[02:12] <korhalf> k im not starting another argument
[02:12] <jbroome> yeah!
[02:12] <badmacktuck> is there a way to make the menus transparent in ubuntu? that might be fun
[02:12] <lightbright> korhalf: your false logs wont help your lies
[02:12] <Seveas> korhalf, lightbright stop arguing or I'll throw both of you out
[02:12] <korhalf> badmacktuck: i dont think so
[02:12] <djk_> Dr_Willis: both installs seem rather easy, just curious which package is better or recommended :)
[02:12] <lightbright> korhalf is now ignored
[02:12] <lightbright> Seveas: agreed
[02:12] <Johnson> dose any one know how to download webpages
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Seveas: The only thing they did for me was slow down acceleration.. and give me xorg heck.
[02:12] <Seveas> lightbright, wise move, korhalf please do the same :)
[02:13] <badmacktuck> korhalf, thanks
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> djk_,  its hard to beat somthing I got in a 3 line batch file. :P
[02:13] <bob_> what is sudo apt-get install j2re1.4?
[02:13] <lightbright> Seveas:  ;)
[02:13] <lightbright> bob_: did you install the Java yet?
[02:13] <Seveas> bob2, it's a command with which you install a java runtime
[02:13] <bob_> i dont think did
[02:13] <lightbright> bob_: thats the Java that Limewire needs first
[02:13] <djk_> Dr_Willis: true true
[02:13] <Seveas> bob_*
[02:13] <Trashcan> yay
[02:13] <burnhamd> type that into the bash terminal
[02:13] <Trashcan> seveas is here
[02:13] <Trashcan> so, i hibernated my pc.
[02:13] <lightbright> bob_: ok install that first and then message me
[02:13] <Seveas> Trashcan, gha good to see you
[02:13] <bob_> how do i install that
[02:13] <bob_> were do i get it
[02:14] <Seveas> you remind me that I have to take out the trash
[02:14] <Seveas> brb
[02:14] <Trashcan> lol
[02:14] <lightbright> bob_: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:14] <Trashcan> ok let me start over
[02:14] <Johnson_> hoe can i download webpages?
[02:14] <nickrud> ouch, what a welcome :)
[02:14] <macd> bob_ type that exact phrase into your command prompt
[02:14] <burnhamd> type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 into terminal
[02:14] <jgrieves> ok finally got more info on Xnest
[02:14] <jgrieves> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5403
[02:14] <linux_new1> ok now its telling me "you appear to be running an x server; please exit x before installing." whats x and how to i exit it
[02:14] <bob_> ok
[02:14] <jgrieves> can anyone help there?
[02:14] <lightbright> nickrud: hello, how are you this lovey day?
[02:14] <badmacktuck> Johnson_, you can go file>> save in firefox
[02:14] <tz> ok
[02:14] <badmacktuck> Johnson_, that generaly does it
[02:14] <nickrud> hangin in there. I'm doing my books, so I'm here for a bit
[02:14] <lightbright> bob_: burnhamd type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 into terminal
[02:15] <Johnson_> yeh but it only saves that page not the links
[02:15] <Seveas> jgrieves, try: gdmflexiserver --xnest
[02:15] <lightbright> nickrud: cool :)
[02:15] <bob_> teminal wuts that
[02:15] <Trashcan> ok seveas, since you're the undoubted guru
[02:15] <bob_> idk what command prompt is either
[02:15] <Trashcan> i hibernated my pc, and now it won't boot
[02:15] <Trashcan> comes up to a grub>
[02:15] <badmacktuck> Johnson_, oh wait you want all the files for the whole site? im not sure how you would do  that
[02:15] <jgrieves> Seveas on what an open Xnest window?
[02:15] <Trashcan> i have NO idea what's wrong :p
[02:15] <Johnson_> ah
[02:15] <Trashcan> needless to say i'm not pleased :(
[02:15] <Johnson_> bitchin' dose any one else know how to do that
[02:16] <badmacktuck> Johnson_, sorry dude
[02:16] <Johnson_> np man :)
[02:16] <jgrieves> Seveas i.e. open Xnest :1, then gdmflexiserver --xnest --display :0.1
[02:16] <mustard5> Johnson_, I would think wget command might help
[02:16] <Johnson_> ok
[02:16] <mustard5> Johnson_, as for the syntax of the command I would'nt know..but you could try the manual
[02:16] <badmacktuck> mustard5, now im interested
[02:16] <Johnson_> im trying to grap the python tutorials on there site
[02:16] <lightbright> rel_ish: whatever happens in another channel doesnt affect this
[02:16] <Seveas> jgrieves, no, to open an xnest
[02:16] <badmacktuck> ahh
[02:16] <linux_new1> im trying to install nvidia drivers, its telling me "you appear to be running an x server; please exit x before installing." whats x and how to i exit it?
[02:16] <Seveas> and now I really am goen
[02:16] <mustard5> Johnson_, I've download my own website using it once
[02:16] <jgrieves> ok
[02:16] <Trashcan> noooooooo
[02:17] <Trashcan> let's turn this into a question
[02:17] <Johnson_> ok
[02:17] <rel_ish> hmm actually I believe that the only reason this happened is because of what happened in the other channel
[02:17] <Trashcan> my pc boots to a grub prompt... what do i do :p
[02:17] <lightbright> bob_: did you install the Java yet?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> linux_new1,  you are not using the apt-get method to install them are you.
[02:17] <lightbright> bob_: after that I can pooint you to the lime file you need
[02:18] <linux_new1> no dr_willis, i have downloaded them from nvidia.com
[02:18] <djk_> lightbright: why didn't you suggest the latest jre to bob?
[02:18] <bob_> i dont know where compand prompt is
[02:18] <bob_> or were to type that phrase
[02:18] <macd> wow
[02:18] <lightbright> djk_: thats the one I used and limewire works for me, so I thought its safest
[02:18] <badmacktuck> bob_, applications>> accesories>> terminal
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> linux_new1,  why are you doing that? its almos trivial to follow the Nvidia-wiki and get them, going.
[02:18] <EdLin> linux_new1, you don't want the ones from nvidia.com, you want the one in the Ubuntu repositories
[02:18] <bob_> thank you
[02:18] <nickrud> bob_, welcome to linux and ubuntu then :)
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> linux_new1,  type " !nvidia " and read the bots message
[02:18] <misfit_toy> is there no simple program to just record video from a webcam? I'm currently using the "motion" project to capture stills as a security device, but I'd like to be able to record simple video from a webcam as well...
[02:18] <bob_> lol
[02:18] <Trashcan> is there a recovery disk to fix grub?
[02:18] <djk_> lightbright: ah i see.
[02:18] <linux_new1> !nvidia
[02:18] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:19] <Johnson_> it only seams to grap that one page?
[02:19] <mustard5> Johnson_, I would say you would need to retrieve recursively...I'm reading over the wget manual atm :)
[02:19] <djk_> Trashcan: your install cd for example..
[02:19] <Johnson_> nice :)
[02:19] <Trashcan> oh really
[02:19] <EdLin> linux_new1, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:19] <jgrieves> sudo gdmflexiserver --xnest opens a window, and than quickly closes it
[02:19] <macd> mustard5, Johnson_  wget -r
[02:19] <djk_> Trashcan: well, if you want to reinstall grub, yes.
[02:19] <sergio> hi, I have a problem with Sound Juicer, it take too long to extract a 12 tracks cd to mp3, almost 20 minutes, it's there a form to accelerate the process?
[02:19] <Trashcan> and i can do so without wiping the system aye?
[02:19] <mustard5> macd, thanks
[02:19] <lightbright> djk_:  :)
[02:20] <badmacktuck> sergio, faster hardware maybe? what are you using?
[02:20] <macd> sergio, mine does as well, Id recommend using xmms
[02:20] <nickrud> sergio, what rip rate are you getting? (I get about 3x)
[02:20] <bob_> Reading package lists... Done
[02:20] <bob_> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:20] <bob_> E: Couldn't find package j2rel.4
[02:20] <bob_>  thats what i got
[02:20] <djk_> Trashcan: well _can_ depends on _what_ you _do_ ;)
[02:20] <kpm> Hi, I have a portable USB hard drive hooked up, and I can brwose to it with Nautilus, however, I would like to get Rhthymbox (or any other music player) to use the Music directory on it as the library for the player's default, without having to copy all my music files over to the local hard drive... but the music applications I have tried so far (Rhtymbox and amaraok) don't list the portable hard drive in the directory tree... during initi
[02:20] <kpm> al start up, and the only other options I can find in RhythmBox is an import... which I assume will copy all my music files to the RhythmBox's default location...
[02:20] <tag> anyone have the ac97 sound device?
[02:20] <linux_new1> thnx edlin
[02:20] <Trashcan> lol djk_
[02:20] <djk_> Trashcan: but yes, unless you choose the wrong things ;)
[02:20] <sergio> 2.4x, I am using a 52x cd
[02:20] <mustard5> bob_, you need to enable the multiverse repository
[02:20] <bob_> how do i do that?
[02:20] <nickrud> bob_, first, don't paste in the channel :) and two, you need to enable multiverse
[02:20] <EdLin> linux_new1, after you do that you'll need to restart X, press control-alt-backspace after you've done that.
[02:20] <mustard5> ubotu: tell bob_ about repos
[02:20] <Trashcan> first things first, finding an install cd
[02:21] <mustard5> bob_, check pm from ubotu
[02:21] <macd> kpm, you need to create a symlink from your mount point to say /usbdrive
[02:21] <kpm> thanks macd, I will look up how to do that
[02:21] <macd> well
[02:21] <macd>  cd into /
[02:21] <macd> then sudo mkdir /usbdrive
[02:22] <macd> then ln -s /dev/yourdevicenodehere /usbdrive
[02:22] <Trashcan> good thing i left a copy of the cd sitting on my desk 45 minutes away
[02:22] <Trashcan> or this might be really easy
[02:22] <sergio> 2.4x, I am using a 52x cd
[02:22] <macd> yourdevicenodehere = the mount point
[02:22] <mustard5> tag, I would just ask your question...many people have ac97
[02:22] <Johnson_> would the -l command in wget work
[02:22] <EdLin> macd, why is cd-ing into / neccesary? This isn't windows explorer
[02:22] <macd> EdLin, point of reference
[02:22] <kpm> can I figure out the mount point in properties?
[02:23] <macd> as to not confuse newbs with paths
[02:23] <EdLin> macd, it isn't like the path gets longer if it's starting at / anyway
[02:23] <macd> kpm,  of you can 'df' on shell
[02:23] <kpm> thanks
[02:23] <macd> EdLin, not when someone is creating a directory in /
[02:23] <saivert> hello
[02:24] <EdLin> macd, you can create a directory in / if you're anywhere, assuming you're sudoing to root
[02:24] <saivert> RUnning Ubuntu Breezy badger (5.10) her.
[02:24] <bimberi> hi saivert
[02:24] <macd> EdLin, your missing the point. and this isnt worth talking about it doesnt pertain to fixing kpms' problem
[02:24] <saivert> Just installed Firefox 1.5 (final), Thunderbird 1.5RC1 but got problems with nvidia-glx package. It sais nvidia as driver in xorg.conf
[02:24] <tag> I've been trying to get it to work, I have the snd_ac97 module installed, but alsamixer can't find my sound device
[02:24] <kinderwood> looking for help compiling wine for amd64 from source, compiling failing with configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:25] <Kayde> Dr_willis, can u plz paste site again
[02:25] <Johnson_> so would the wget command work for downloading mutile links on a website
[02:25] <Seveas> !tell kinderwood about compiling
[02:25] <sorush20> guys how do I delete the files on a DVDRW
[02:25] <Kayde>  I lost it,
[02:25] <saivert> What do you do when nvidia-glx driver (sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings) does not work with GeForce Go 6600 chip?
[02:26] <macd> Seveas, can I tell myself something?
[02:26] <Seveas> macd, sure :)
[02:26] <saivert> i did run sudo nvidia-settings enable
[02:26] <macd> just curios what all these things say
[02:26] <djk_> people should be more careful when they enter links into ubotu... !grub has an invalid link as well...
[02:26] <Seveas> ubotu, tell macd about yourself
[02:26] <mustard5> tag, do you have other sound devices as well?
[02:26] <macd> Seveas, ty
[02:26] <saivert> Is there another channel where people help each other out or is this the right place?
[02:27] <Seveas> saivert, lots of channel on freenode are for support
[02:27] <mustard5> saivert, your in the right place
[02:27] <saivert> okay. I assumed people had experience with ubuntu 5.10 here.
[02:27] <djk_> Seveas: is there a list of commands ubotu knows?
[02:27] <kinderwood> seveas, or anyone, have read through the guide to compiling, have build-essential installed
[02:27] <djk_> Seveas: i mean ! commands..
[02:28] <Seveas> ubotu, tell djk_ about yourself
[02:28] <HighHopes> Hello folks! I have a problem ... In any x-terminal-emulator I get ugly characters instead of extended ASCII symbols, e.g. windows borders in midnight commander, letters in my spanish alphabet, etc... How can I solve this?
[02:28] <macd> kinderwood, do you also have autoconf installed?
[02:28] <saivert> The nv X server driver works, but the nvidia one does not. It says when starting X that it cant find any screens
[02:28] <Seveas> kinderwood, apt-get build-dep wine
[02:28] <EdLin> saivert, run nvidia-glx-config
[02:28] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hey, noob ubuntu question here, can I make apt-get download a package instead of using it from the cd?
[02:28] <navyn> anybody here familiar with gimp?
[02:28] <EdLin> saivert, from a command prompt...
[02:28] <saivert> i have done so . I followed the guide on ubuntu wiki
[02:28] <mustard5> saivert, have you installed the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel?
[02:28] <burnhamd> wine doesnt compile under amd64
[02:29] <burnhamd> you have to chroot it
[02:29] <nickrud> The_Isle_of_Mark, comment out the cdrom line in your sources.list to disable getting from the cd
[02:29] <macd> The_Isle_of_Mark,  take the CD out?
[02:29] <kinderwood> oh man, that stinks
[02:29] <Seveas> The_Isle_of_Mark, comment out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:29] <saivert> I am running plain Ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger from latest ISO i downloaded
[02:29] <The_Isle_of_Mark> thanks guys
[02:29] <kinderwood> burnhamd, do you know if they are planning to support amd64?
[02:29] <EdLin> saivert, are you using an older card such as a TNT2? If so you may need the legacy drivers.
[02:29] <navyn> whenever I crop a photo, how can i stop the stupid dialog box, wanting coordinates to stop popping up?
[02:29] <djk_> Seveas: yea i know that, but i mean a list of all entered stuff.. listvals * is too short
[02:29] <saivert> I have GeForce Go 6600
[02:30] <djk_> and i dont think the wildcard would work anyway..
[02:30] <saivert> On a laptop
[02:30] <Falstius> I'm trying to get wine working in a chroot, but I get an error, "Application tries to create a window, but no driver loaded" ... any fix?
[02:30] <Seveas> djk_, afaik that factoid should say: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[02:30] <kinderwood> can anyone else reccomend a windows layer besides wine? just need to run simple .exe, no games
[02:30] <burnhamd> Kinderwood: nope i sure dont
[02:30] <saivert> I got sound semi-working as well (Intel ICH6 SoundMAX) but it fails when pluggins cable into line out (something with jack sense trouble)
[02:30] <EdLin> kinderwood, vmware, though it has a lot of overhead, can run about anything.
[02:30] <Falstius> kinderwood: there used to be a dosemu package
[02:31] <Kayde> DR WILLIS< PLEASE re post url
[02:31] <burnhamd> yea but dosemu isnt windows
[02:31] <navyn> its under crop and resize, how can i stop that from popping up in gimp
[02:31] <korhalf> Is there a way to bind the scroll mouse button to irssi, so i can scroll that way or?
[02:31] <djk_> Seveas: no, it says it's too short unfortunately, but thanks for the link, that's what i was looking for
[02:31] <XRange> is there channel for sound problem on laptop with ubuntu
[02:32] <HighHopes> Hello folks! I have a problem ... In any x-terminal-emulator I get ugly characters instead of extended ASCII symbols, e.g. windows borders in midnight commander, letters in my spanish alphabet, etc... How can I solve this?
[02:32] <EdLin> Falstius, dosemu and dosbox run great, nice for running old DOS games for nostalgia.
[02:32] <saivert> I have followed the 5 button mouse tip on Ubuntu forums, and back/forward mouse buttons do now work in Firefox, but why to a page open when I middle click background of website (eg no link/image, somewhere else on website)
[02:32] <Falstius> what kind of sick calls themself "edlin" and has DOS nostalgia?
[02:32] <Trashcan> djk_ so, if i were to, say, not have an install cd
[02:32] <Trashcan> is there anything i could do with a floppy? :p
[02:32] <EdLin> Falstius, me. ;-)
[02:33] <kinderwood> macd, autoconf was not installed, but i just did, still fails with same error
[02:33] <Trashcan> or.. well.. grub is installed, it's just not booting my image
[02:33] <djk_> Trashcan: check the links ubotu sent you as well ;)
[02:33] <Trashcan> ooo missed that
[02:33] <Trashcan> thankies
[02:33] <Falstius> can anyone help me with a chroot problem?  I'm having trouble getting wine to open windows.
[02:33] <saivert> anyone got GeForce Go 6600 working with nvidia-glx on 5.10 ubuntu ?
[02:33] <djk_> Trashcan: the second link has a , added at the end, resulting in a not found site.. so delete that.
[02:33] <saivert> sudo apt-get install wine  <--- works with breez
[02:33] <Trashcan> rgr
[02:34] <burnhamd> i got geforce 6600 regular pcie working if that helps
[02:34] <djk_> Seveas: i assume it's okay if i proofread !commands with links fixing them if proper punctuation messed up links?
[02:34] <Falstius> saivert: not on AMD64
[02:34] <kinderwood> seveas,  apt-get build-dep wine returns "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[02:34] <saivert> But wine does not handle running Winamp 5 that good. It puts frames around winamp's windows and the sound support is a bit broken
[02:35] <Seveas> djk_, sure, but use a private conversation with the bot for that :)
[02:35] <macd> kinderwood, IM not sure if there is a all encompassing way to install gcc and it suite of compilers, but someone might know
[02:35] <Trashcan> i tried my lameass attempts at 'kernel /boot/vmlinuz' and 'boot' but it was too tricky to do off the top of my head :(
[02:35] <saivert> A lot of stuff is broken on AMD64. Wait for updates.
[02:35] <djk_> Seveas: yep :)
[02:35] <navyn> is there a gimp channel on irc?
[02:35] <dAndy> Falstius: I just used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[02:35] <EdLin> kinderwood, aptitude install build-essential
[02:35] <dAndy> Falstius: I am using it with cedega
[02:35] <EdLin> macd, ^^
[02:35] <macd> kinderwood, I had the same problem, poked around in synaptic under the c++ range and was able to fix my rpoblem by adding a missing package
[02:35] <macd> EdLin, he already has build-essential
[02:35] <kinderwood> macd, same error?
[02:36] <burnhamd> you meean #gimp
[02:36] <burnhamd> come on
[02:36] <saivert> Cedega is overrated. Why can't you copy Microsoft native DirectX DLL's from a windows box over to linux and run with Wine ?
[02:36] <thewayofzen> nalioth, if you are around.  would you happen to know how i might get my 52X cdrw drive burning at higher then 24X
[02:36] <saivert> Wine emulates most of the Win32 kernel so everything should work
[02:37] <bob_> i tried doing that stuff idk if it worked
[02:37] <crouton> hey fellas, anybody running XFS on the latest kernel.org <IP_ADDRESS> kernel?
[02:37] <nelsmar> FN keys sucks 0.o
[02:37] <nelsmar> i got my <IP_ADDRESS> running does that count? lol
[02:37] <nelsmar> was amazing what went wrong
[02:37] <EdLin> crouton, XFS should really only be used if you have a UPS, it write caches very agressively.
[02:37] <soundray> thewayofzen, would your blanks support that speed?
[02:38] <MunkieBoy> Hello.
[02:38] <thewayofzen> soundray,  yeah they support 52
[02:38] <saivert> I still use ext2 !!!
[02:38] <nelsmar> how much was the burner? lol
[02:38] <crouton> yah, well...
[02:38] <soundray> thewayofzen, is DMA on?
[02:38] <nelsmar> cause there are alot of 30$ burners that say 52x but benchmark shows only 24x is what they really burn at
[02:38] <nelsmar> *shrug*
[02:38] <saivert> Anyone tested burning with NeroLINUX ??
[02:38] <thewayofzen> soundray,  i followed the guide on ubuntuguide.org to have DMA on and still same results
[02:38] <thewayofzen> burns FINE at full speed in XP.. just seems odd
[02:38] <The_Isle_of_Mark> saivert, I have, I dont see much use for it
[02:39] <nelsmar> anyone have some links or somethign about triggering events with acpi and sonypi(support for my FN keys.... if i cat /dev/sonypi and hit FN F4 it outputs ;)
[02:39] <Falstius> dAndy: the chroot seems to work but when I run wine it barfs with the error, "application tried to open window, driver not loaded"
[02:39] <nelsmar> thewayofzen have you tried diff burnign software?
[02:39] <thewayofzen> nelsmar,  k3b and gnomebaker
[02:39] <thewayofzen> :)
[02:39] <Falstius> I can run synaptic in the change root and it opens windows.
[02:39] <nelsmar> damn ; / dunno man :(
[02:39] <soundray> thewayofzen, did you time the Windows result yourself or did you rely on the driver's speed info?
[02:39] <saivert> Yeah. Given the fact that NeroLINUX uses a lot of code from GnomeToaster I think running GnomeToaster would be better in the long run. NeroLINUX sure is great to ease the migration from Windows, but then Nero should have same GUI as in Windows.
[02:40] <thewayofzen> soundray,  i didnt break out a stop watch but its noticeable that its taking more time.
[02:40] <soundray> thewayofzen, anyway, the only option I see left is playing with hdparm.
[02:40] <thewayofzen> soundray,  ill hit up google then thanks!
[02:40] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  You around?
[02:40] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Insipid, hey man
[02:40] <nelsmar> someone help me get a kickstat twards what to do for my FN keys im kind of stuck now :(
[02:40] <soundray> thewayofzen, remember man hdparm and /usr/share/doc/hdparm as well.
[02:41] <nelsmar> /dev/sonypi shows the output of the keys
[02:41] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  32 bit it just as horrid.. I wonder if it has something to do with the kernel.
[02:41] <nelsmar> how can i get something to monitor sonypi and trigger te events in /etc/acpi/events
[02:41] <nelsmar> WITHOUGHT writting my own software please
[02:41] <saivert> Press Ctrl-Alt-F1, login and then type sudo halt
[02:41] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid I dunno man
[02:42] <Johnson_> dose any one know hoe to use httrack???????????????
[02:42] <nelsmar> .... saivert just because you cant do it yoru self doesnt mean you gotta be an arse :D
[02:42] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid that was my last ditch effort. I anything but video I can fix, but that has me stumped
[02:42] <jay> anyone know of an rpm for tvrss
[02:42] <saivert> I was trying to be funny nelsmar!! That's all. I'm sure most peolpe know what halt does.
[02:42] <nelsmar> The_Isle_of_Mark what is wrong?
[02:42] <jay> located tvrss.sf.net
[02:42] <nelsmar> saivert what does it do? lmao
[02:42] <nelsmar> just kiddin
[02:43] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  I just don't like what I don't understand.. i read on the message boards of people running a 5200 beautifully.. and i know for a fact my geforce 2 mx 400 ran my apps better than this 5200 in linux
[02:43] <mustard5> saivert, not necessarily
[02:43] <The_Isle_of_Mark> nelsmar, nothing on my machine...insipid is having nvidia problems
[02:43] <saivert> Halt describes itself. It halts the system
[02:43] <nelsmar> nvidia is pissy lol... everytime i modify my kernel i have to re-patch ><
[02:43] <nelsmar> thank god it only takes 2 mins including reseting x
[02:43] <Tony_Sidaway> nelsmar, have you tried googling on this problem? It's a bit too hardware-specific for #ubuntu
[02:43] <Trashcan> djk_: can i pm you?
[02:43] <Johnson_> dose any one know how to use httrack or any program that can download multiple levels on a website?
[02:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Insipid, I know what you mean, unfortunately I dont know what to do...maybe if I had the machine here I could fix it, but I dont so I cant...and I feel bad about it
[02:44] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  All i can think of is try to compile my own kernel and run the offical installer
[02:44] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid that could work
[02:44] <mustard5> Johnson_, wget -r was no good?
[02:44] <nelsmar> Tony_sidaway i just need a device monitor that will execute commands on input depending... liek somethign that would watch /dev/mouse and when it see's input it forwards... except watch /dev/sonypi
[02:44] <sorush20> guys what does can;'t find x includes mean?
[02:44] <nelsmar> its not to hardware specific it outputs raw data..... in 16bit i beleive
[02:44] <burnhamd> if i were to compile my own kernel will I get a considerable spped boost
[02:44] <Johnson_> no soz i didnt get that message im talking to you through konsole and it wont let me scroll up
[02:44] <nelsmar> insipid what is your problem?
[02:44] <Johnson_> i try now
[02:45] <mustard5> Johnson_, the -r option makes it recursive
[02:45] <saivert> But I am still awaiting explanation why my plain Breezy 5.10 installation can't be upgraded to use nvidia-glx package even though I have followed every guid (most of them tell me the same, run sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable). But it fails when restarting Xorg. It says it can not find any screens.
[02:45] <nelsmar> im almost tempted to use xorg.conf and map it as a mouse....
[02:45] <mulder> nelsmar, you didnt buy a sony vaio did you?
[02:45] <The_Isle_of_Mark> insipid nelsmar wants to help
[02:45] <jay> anyone?
[02:45] <Tony_Sidaway> nelsmar, sounds  like something you could run up in perl, python, guile, whatever.  Why the problem with programming?
[02:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Error loading font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[02:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe>  Can someone help me out?
[02:45] <nelsmar> mulder no it was a gift why?
[02:45] <Johnson_> nice
[02:45] <Johnson_> i dont knw what that means
[02:45] <jay> located tvrss.sf.net
[02:45] <nelsmar> Tony_sideaway ive never programed C/C++ in linux i dont know how to make use of makefiles :(
[02:45] <djk_> Trashcan: if you are registered, yes
[02:45] <dpupp> Biscuitian_Warhe, ask your question if someone knows they will answer :)
[02:46] <nelsmar> wasnt going to start playing with C++ for another week or so
[02:46] <mulder> nelsmar, *shakes head*. i'm not a big fan of vaios heh
[02:46] <saivert> But I am still awaiting explanation why my plain Breezy 5.10 installation can't be upgraded to use nvidia-glx package even though I have followed every guid (most of them tell me the same, run sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable). But it fails when restarting Xorg. It says it can not find any screens.
[02:46] <Insipid> nelsmar:  Im getting worse performance on my nvidia geforce 5200 in linux than i did my geforce 2mx... glxgears is giving me 1300 fps in a tiny window... and ut2004 is running at 8 fps... in windows it runs at about 50 fps and my geforce 2 mx ran at about 25 fps in a different linux installation
[02:46] <Tony_Sidaway> nelsmar, you don't need all that.  Just grab man perl and get coding.
[02:46] <nelsmar> mulder ah ; / they arnt as good as they used to be, but i love myn :) linux hates all vaio
[02:46] <RobNyc> Anyway to get a higher kernel than 2.6.12?
[02:46] <djk_> Trashcan: although there are plenty of intelligent people here who'd be able to help as well ;)
[02:46] <Johnson_> if i put -r 3 would it download 3 levels ?
[02:46] <mustard5> saivert, well sudo nvidia-glx-config enable is the actual command
[02:46] <nelsmar> Tony_sidaway maybe i will hhmmmm man perl have some basics?
[02:46] <EdLin> RobNyc, is there any reason that you need 2.6.14?
[02:46] <Trashcan> djk_ : just trying to avoid clutter, but i see your point :)
[02:47] <nelsmar> Insipid did you install new(er) nvidia drivers? if so what version
[02:47] <Johnson_> coz it looks like its trying to download the whole net lol
[02:47] <saivert> sorry, my mistake. I meant config instead of settings. couldn't remember when typing message. was too lazy to look it up
[02:47] <Tony_Sidaway> nelsmar, get the Camel book if you need more, or just look on the web for perl tutorials.
[02:47] <Trashcan> seeing as how i don't have an installation cd of any sort (and the only burner in the house is.. joy.. the one that's broken)
[02:47] <Insipid> nelsmar:  I got breezy package
[02:47] <EdLin> RobNyc, security fixes from .14 have been backported to Ubuntu's kernel
[02:47] <mulder> nelsmar, my thinkpad works fine :) all the function combos seem to work
[02:47] <nelsmar> Tony_sidaway shouldnt be to hard to catch up on
[02:47] <Trashcan> i read about booting manually
[02:47] <saivert> It says "nvidia" in xorg.conf anyways
[02:47] <saivert> but one "nv" works.
[02:47] <Trashcan> i just need to know what options/modules to boot with
[02:47] <saivert> *only
[02:47] <nelsmar> Insipid breezy package? ... there was a package for nvidia drivers in add programs??? i dint knwo that
[02:48] <saivert> who is insipid?
[02:48] <Insipid> nelsmar:  apt-get
[02:48] <djk_> Seveas: is it possible that not all factoids on that site still exist? apparently there's ffnew but ubotu doesn't seem to know it (anymore)
[02:48] <nelsmar> mulder yeah myn worked on 2.6.9 kernelw iht ubuntu but i upped to a newer kernel cause im cleaning and leaning the system out and now im not sure what happened
[02:48] <mustard5> saivert, you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and attempt to reconfigure your xorg.cof
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Error loading font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[02:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Can somebody help me out?
[02:48] <nelsmar> Insipid i didnt even try that my self lol, go to .... let me get you a direct link
[02:48] <Kayde> how do i make wrighting red/?
[02:48] <saivert> my xorg.conf looks pretty fine. I don't want to reset it cos I have enabled 5 button mouse support.
[02:48] <mustard5> saivert, atm I am a bit mystified as to what it might be
[02:48] <Insipid> nelsmar:  i know how to manually do this
[02:48] <kinderwood> any one else have troubleshooting ideas for "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[02:49] <sorush20> !dapper
[02:49] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[02:49] <mustard5> saivert, what kernel you running?
[02:49] <Johnson_> what about if i do -r -l 3 would that work?
[02:49] <saivert> wait mustard5
[02:49] <mulder> nelsmar, did you use the 2.6.9 kernel config file?
[02:49] <soundray> Kayde, can you elaborate?
[02:49] <nelsmar> mulder yeah had some problems 0.o and just started fresh
[02:49] <Kayde> ?
[02:49] <saivert> my uname -a output:  But I am still awaiting explanation why my plain Breezy 5.10 installation can't be upgraded to use nvidia-glx package even though I have followed every guid (most of them tell me the same, run sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable). But it fails when restarting Xorg. It says it can not find any screens.
[02:49] <nickrud> kinderwood, what does   which gcc    say in a terminal?
[02:49] <nelsmar> insipid why not manualy? works like a charm
[02:49] <Kayde> soundray Kayde, can you elaborate?-??
[02:49] <saivert> sorry paste with ctrl-v does not work in XChat
[02:49] <nelsmar> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7667.html <<< the best drive from nv atm
[02:50] <mustard5> saivert, uname -r
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> uhm
[02:50] <saivert> my kernel:  Linux cnsaivert 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Fri Nov 18 12:09:04 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:50] <Insipid> nelsmar:  thats the one i got, its just a binary
[02:50] <Insipid> nelsmar: from the apt-get
[02:50] <djk_> Trashcan: better ask in here then. i'm not that advanced to properly help you with that.
[02:50] <Insipid> dpkg even
[02:50] <soundray> Kayde, what are you trying to color in red?
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> in cfdisk.. when you select type as Linux for a partition.. what FS is it?
[02:50] <kinderwood> nickrud, what do you mean?  I tried making a simple hello world.c and it compiled and ran fine
[02:50] <mustard5> siavert, I would try installing linux-restricted-module-$(uname -r)
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> ext2 reiser ext3?
[02:50] <mulder> nelsmar, ok. what about using the breezy config then?
[02:50] <luisito> can I get the gedit sources?
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> mustard! my homie.. help me out here :P
[02:50] <Kayde> i want 2 know...
[02:50] <saivert> why do you have to have restricted module ? Is the driver restricted?
[02:50] <nickrud> ah, kinderwood what are you compiling, and does it specify gcc-3.4?
[02:51] <mustard5> saivert, yes
[02:51] <nelsmar> mulder i hadproblems converting and now bleh... i did the sony pi and thinkin of just installing the dell / toshiba supporty which i think is what worked
[02:51] <saivert> damn this shitty business
[02:51] <hlen> luisito, ``apt-get source gedit'' in the dir where you want them
[02:51] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, :)
[02:51] <nelsmar> im not sure... after going from 2.6.9 - > 2.6.10 it stopped working
[02:51] <mulder> nelsmar, hmm ok
[02:51] <nelsmar> and after i updated(4 hours after install) i decided to build my own kernel
[02:51] <Insipid> The_Isle_of_Mark:  Perhaps it's best not to use a binary anyways.. after all its not tweaked for my system if i do it like that.. did you use the binary?
[02:51] <kinderwood> nickrud, ah, im trying to compile wine on a amd64
[02:51] <nelsmar> *shrug*
[02:51] <soundray> saivert, blame nvidia / ati
[02:51] <mulder> nelsmar, you still using hoary i take it?
[02:51] <Insipid> kinderwood:  debootstrab a new chroot
[02:51] <saivert> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-module-2.6.12-10-686
[02:51] <Insipid> debootstrap
[02:51] <nelsmar> nope
[02:51] <nickrud> ah, nm, amd64, not here, wine, won't use :)
[02:51] <jay> whats Dapper
[02:52] <nelsmar> breezy
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> or tell me how to format a partition as a certain type pls
[02:52] <saivert> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-module-2.6.12-10-686
[02:52] <dpupp> is there a good text editor which does highlighting for html as it does for other scripts? my little sister is wanting to learn html and im looking for a tool that might help her.
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[02:52] <mulder> cause breezy uses 2.6.12
[02:52] <luisito> hlen, thanks. didn't know that apt-get option ;)
[02:52] <ivar> ok, i'm a bit stuck here. i seem to have hosed X in breezy
[02:52] <The_Isle_of_Mark> Insipid, yes I did, I have way too many machines to keep up to compile everything...if I wanted to do that I would run gentoo :)
[02:52] <soundray> saivert, you have to downgrade to 2.6.12-9-686
[02:52] <ivar> as such i'm using irsii, which is quite unfamiliar
[02:52] <nelsmar> not the update manager thingy
[02:52] <Insipid> wine WILL work on an amd64 if you chroot into a 32-bit environment created by debootstrap
[02:52] <linux_newb> i just had this pop up Could not grab your mouse.
[02:52] <saivert> why ?? I like 2.6.12 ??
[02:52] <linux_newb> A malicious client may be eavesdropping
[02:52] <linux_newb> on your session.
[02:52] <mustard5> saivert, sounds like you either need to run sudo apt-get update or enabled extra repositories
[02:52] <kinderwood> ok, i will look into the debootstrap and chroot for wine on amd64, thank you for all your help
[02:52] <nelsmar> i have latest updates...... from the update manager
[02:52] <nelsmar> it doesnt like me
[02:52] <linux_newb> :-S
[02:52] <mustard5> saivert, alternatively the package name is spelt wrong :)
[02:52] <saivert> i have enabled multiverse and universe. im fine
[02:53] <mustard5> saivert, search via synaptice :)
[02:53] <bimberi> saivert: it's modules (add the 's')
[02:53] <nelsmar> im proud that i got half this shit to work
[02:53] <nickrud> dpupp, I don't do much html stuff, and bluefish was a godsend for me. Learned as I went.
[02:53] <soundray> Insipid, is there a howto for 32-bit environments with debootstrap?
[02:53] <saivert> Look here:  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686 is already the newest version.
[02:53] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, you on breezy?
[02:54] <nickrud> dpupp, oh, and yes, it does syntax hightlighting
[02:54] <saivert> SO it means I got it!!!!!! NELSMAR
[02:54] <Trashcan> Seveas : have you any idea where i can find a proper grub boot sequence? :p
[02:54] <bimberi> soundray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[02:54] <dpupp> thanks nickrud. i will check that out
[02:54] <Mr_Milenko> no :(
[02:54] <nelsmar> huh? *looks around clueless*
[02:54] <mustard5> saivert, hmmm ok
[02:54] <Mr_Milenko> and im on 14kbps dialup
[02:54] <soundray> thank you, bimberi
[02:54] <nelsmar> OHSHIT i just delted my .config
[02:54] <nelsmar> DAMNIT
[02:54] <bimberi> soundray: np :)
[02:54] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, k
[02:55] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, via command line I would not be too helpful in that regard
[02:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Is there CHAP MD5 support in linux?
[02:55] <saivert> I was tempted to compile my own kernel using a wonderful guide on Ubuntuforums, but I dropped it cos I don't see any reason to do so. It should work out of the BOX!!
[02:55] <nelsmar> oh damnit to hell tose fuckers
[02:55] <mustard5> nelsmar, watch the language plz
[02:55] <Trashcan> oh oh it's magic
[02:55] <Trashcan> $100 i just killed my system
[02:56] <Trashcan> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-<kernel version>
[02:56] <Trashcan> initrd /initrd.img
[02:56] <Trashcan> boot
[02:56] <Mr_Milenko> ah i remember a gnome partitioning tool
[02:56] <mustard5> Trashcan, you want a link to grub troubleshooting guide?
[02:56] <Trashcan> i got it
[02:56] <mustard5> Trashcan, k
[02:56] <Trashcan> my problem: i lack an install cd
[02:56] <Trashcan> and the computer with the burner is the one that wont boot
[02:56] <mustard5> Trashcan, ah ok..
[02:56] <mustard5> Trashcan, eek
[02:56] <Trashcan> woooot i got a grey screen
[02:57] <_jason> Trashcan, can you take the burner out of it and put it on your other comp?
[02:57] <mustard5> Trashcan, you want to see my grub?
[02:57] <Trashcan> PLEASE
[02:57] <mustard5> Trashcan, one tick
[02:57] <nelsmar> sorry mustard
[02:57] <tag> I can't seem to mount an item with the loopback device?
[02:57] <soundray> Trashcan, do you have any other bootable CDs?
[02:57] <Trashcan> windows
[02:57] <tag> lsmod shows the loop module inserted
[02:57] <mahangu> im using OOo2 impress, how can I package a presentation as a .ppt and make sure the fonts will render on a win32 box
[02:58] <mahangu> im using nimbus roman
[02:58] <saivert> How does one install a FreeBSD based OS and make it boot when I already got Windows XP and Ubuntu dual-booted using GRUB? I have created a new ext2 partition using PartitionMagic in windows xp and copied rootfs (in a .tar.gz archive) to the new partition, it mounts perfectly fine under ubuntu, but can't boot it from GRUB (tried root (hd0,5) which is a success, but kernel /boot/boot0 fails.
[02:58] <masingerz> Hey i have an ati video card and i found this generic driver over at the ati web
[02:58] <mustard5> Trashcan, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/449093
[02:58] <masingerz> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300
[02:58] <masingerz> which one should I use?
[02:58] <masingerz> XFree86 4.1
[02:58] <masingerz> XFree86 4.2
[02:58] <masingerz> XFree86 4.3
[02:58] <masingerz> x.org 6.8
[02:58] <masingerz> Please advice
[02:58] <saivert> don't spam
[02:58] <saivert> don't spam please
[02:58] <saivert> read my post above.
[02:59] <mulder> saivert, grub should recognise ufs should it not?
[02:59] <Trashcan> yay
[02:59] <saivert> ufs ??
[02:59] <Trashcan> thank you mustard5 :D
[02:59] <mustard5> Trashcan, np
[02:59] <saivert> that is used by FreeBSD I assume?
[02:59] <Trashcan> btw, what version is your grub?
[02:59] <jay> how do i activate 3d accelration on ubuntu here
[02:59] <Trashcan> that came with ubuntu
[02:59] <mulder> ufs is what freebsd uses
[03:00] <saivert> I thought FreeBSD supported ext2 as well
[03:00] <mulder> just point it to the boot code for the freebsd partition
[03:00] <Xenguy> who cares about FreeBSD - it's crap compared to Debian derivatives anyway :P
[03:00] <hlen> freebsd actually uses ufs2 these days
[03:00] <mulder> it supports ext2 but it uses ufs itself
[03:00] <jay> anyone
[03:00] <mustard5> Trashcan, whatever the default ubuntu version is
[03:00] <saivert> I'm trying to install FreeNAS on my laptop. Just for testing ofcourse. It's based on FreeBSD and you can download the entire 16MB rootfs in a tgz
[03:00] <Xenguy> anyway, it's off-topice AFAICT
[03:00] <soundray> Xenguy, there was never anything better than OS/2
[03:00] <Trashcan> yeah mustard
[03:00] <Trashcan> dunno what that is?
[03:00] <Mr_Milenko> bah
[03:00] <Mr_Milenko> got cut off
[03:00] <Mr_Milenko> this linuxant demo shit is pissing me off
[03:00] <soundray> Xenguy, except maybe BeOS
[03:00] <mulder> in any case grub should see it
[03:00] <Xenguy> soundray: that's off-topic too :P
[03:01] <Trashcan> because mine says 0.95
[03:01] <hlen> Xenguy, you shouldn't say stuff like that. people might not like to hear it.
[03:01] <mustard5> Trashcan, I havent change the version of grub at all..so I assume its default
[03:01] <soundray> Xenguy, just kidding.
[03:01] <crouton> Oh, BeOS, how I miss thee
[03:01] <Trashcan> and that's old as far as i know
[03:01] <dpupp> when i try to have GEDIT open files for editing it crashes. for example: sudo gedit var/www/file.htm -- the application gerdit has quit unexpectidly.
[03:01] <Xenguy> hlen: the truth hurts?
[03:01] <mustard5> Trashcan, ah ok..I did restore grub using the install CD recently...
[03:01] <hlen> Xenguy, that's your truth
[03:01] <saivert> so back to nvidia-glx then. any news?
[03:02] <saivert> Do I have to compile my own kernel to get it working?
[03:02] <mustard5> saivert, can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[03:02] <Xenguy> hlen: here's the truth - this is Ubuntu, not FBSD, yes?
[03:02] <saivert> sure. which pastebin ??
[03:02] <mustard5> !pastebin
[03:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:02] <saivert> thx
[03:02] <luisito> hlen, when I try apt-get source gedit it says me: Unable to find a source package
[03:02] <luisito> hlen, and with other packages too
[03:03] <Trashcan> does anybody know what version of grub ubuntu comes with?
[03:03] <soundray> luisito, have you enabled source repositories?
[03:03] <bimberi> !info grub
[03:03] <ubotu> grub: (GRand Unified Bootloader), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.95+cvs20040624-17ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 744 kB
[03:03] <jay> how do i activate 3d accelration on ubuntu here
[03:03] <N6REJ> yeah, I've been having that problem all night!  downloads the packages then says "unable to verify"   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5404
[03:03] <luisito> soundray, yes man!
[03:03] <hlen> luisito, do you have a deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list? if not, that's the problem
[03:03] <saivert> Here is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf -->  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/449097  <<--grab it
[03:03] <Trashcan> ok cool, so my grub is intact
[03:03] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jay: we looking at nvidia or ati?
[03:03] <Trashcan> must have just lost menu.lst
[03:04] <Trashcan> mustard5: it's booting :D thank you sooo much
[03:04] <mustard5> saivert, k..looking it over now...I'll compare to mine..I'm on nvidia too
[03:04] <jay> ati
[03:04] <luisito> hlen, I have to check that
[03:04] <mustard5> Trashcan, well done :)
[03:04] <saivert> We are only talking about nvidia atm
[03:04] <saivert> And I got GeForce Go 6600 GPU remember
[03:04] <yagami> how do i join other servers
[03:04] <yagami> i cant remember what to type
[03:04] <N6REJ> mustard5: are the repositories broken 2nite?
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jay:  Go to Synaptic and look for xorg-driver-fglrx or apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:05] <ubuntu> hi
[03:05] <soundray> luisito, did you run apt-get update after adding source repositories?
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jay: Then when thats done. make a backup of your xorg.conf, and then run fglrxconfig (or conf, somthing like that) as root and put in the settings it tells you to
[03:06] <saivert> what is this fglrx thing ??
[03:06] <luisito> soundray, yes man, that too!
[03:06] <jay> cool thanks
[03:06] <saivert> It's unknown to me
[03:06] <Trashcan> saivert : open gl drivers
[03:06] <luisito> hlen, I have my deb-src lines too.
[03:06] <jay> Biscuitian_Warhe, how do i install mplayer
[03:06] <saivert> sorry got to go. idling
[03:06] <Trashcan> zommgmgg it worked
[03:06] <saivert> IDLE!!!!
[03:06] <jay> where do i get the debs
[03:06] <Trashcan> <--- really happy
[03:06] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i'm trying to install a programme (unstuff), and this is in the instructions: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5406 how do i do this?
[03:06] <mustard5> N6REJ, not that I know of
[03:07] <Trashcan> mustard5 is my new best friend :)
[03:07] <Xenguy> luisito: if it is not working, just run apt-setup and get setup
[03:07] <Trashcan> (and djk_)
[03:07] <Xenguy> luisito: at least you'll know your mirrors are correct
[03:07] <sexcopter8000m> oh no wait, i should learn to read..
[03:07] <Xenguy> er, sudo blah blah
[03:07] <N6REJ> mustard5: I haven't been able to get a valid package in hours!
[03:07] <N6REJ> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5404
[03:07] <sexcopter8000m> it says in the default installation /usr is included.. duh
[03:08] <david> how do i get codecs?
[03:08] <Trashcan> !restrictedformats
[03:08] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:08] <mustard5> N6REJ, hmmm..what mirror you using?
[03:09] <luisito> Xenguy, hlen. soundray, now it's working, when I delete the target directory, but now, where they are downloading?
[03:09] <N6REJ> I used "!easysource"
[03:09] <N6REJ> !repos
[03:09] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:09] <david> mirror?im new
[03:09] <soundray> luisito, to the current directory.
[03:09] <bimberi> david: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:09] <Trashcan> david: the restrictedformats link is what you need
[03:10] <mustard5> N6REJ, is it 'us' mirror or another country mirror?
[03:10] <Trashcan> follow the instructions there to get wmv/avi/mp3 etc. to play
[03:10] <david> im from new zealand.ill try that
[03:10] <Xenguy> luisito: typically they are downloading to /var/cache/apt/archives , but if you use 'apt-get install' they should just install automagically
[03:11] <N6REJ> mustard5: US
[03:11] <mustard5> N6REJ, so its gpg key errors or total failure to find the repo?
[03:11] <N6REJ> gpg
[03:11] <soundray> I compiled and installed a couple of packages myself. Now Software Update is offering to install "updates" for the same packages all the time. How can I set it to keep the local versions?
[03:12] <mustard5> N6REJ, ah ok...one tick..I find a different solution to the gpg key errors the other day
[03:12] <N6REJ> mustard5: look here ... .http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5404
[03:12] <mustard5> N6REJ, I have to find a link that first
[03:12] <N6REJ> mustard5: k
[03:12] <luisito> Xenguy, ah, ok then. thanks. have to take note of that. I always do when something is new to me. ;P
[03:13] <vegos> can anyone tell me how to install a patch
[03:13] <gp_aaron> can someone tell me where i can get the ubuntu default cursor theme
[03:13] <mustard5> N6REJ, you could try removing all the 'us.' entries and not using the U.S. mirror
[03:13] <bimberi> soundray: Synaptic has a "Lock Version" option (in the Packages menu), try that for your packages
[03:13] <mustard5> N6REJ, I'm still looking for this link...brb
[03:13] <bimberi> *Package menu
[03:14] <N6REJ> mustard5: yeah... I just pulled the set off of !repos  I'm trying that first.
[03:14] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, it should already be installed
[03:14] <Xenguy> vegos: man patch
[03:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I get CHAP MD5 set up with pppd?
[03:14] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, i want it for another distro
[03:14] <soundray> bimberi, exactly what I was looking for. Cheers!
[03:14] <bimberi> soundray: np :)
[03:15] <vegos> what file extension should a patch have
[03:15] <david> can anyone help with my modem problem?is there any way around paying for the full driver because atm i have only got a trail driver for my modem and it only goes 14.4kbps where it should be going 50 kbps?
[03:15] <N6REJ> mustard5: what really sucks is I dl'd 1700+ packages and had them all ready to go when I saw the failure :(  all days work gone bye bye :S
[03:15] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, you know where i can grab it from?
[03:15] <N6REJ> :-/
[03:15] <masingerz> Hey i have an ati video card and i found this generic driver over at the ati web:: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300 :: which one should I use? :: XFree86 4.1 :: XFree86 4.2 :: XFree86 4.3 :: x.org 6.8 :: Please advice
[03:16] <Mr_Milenko> i have an ati card
[03:16] <Biscuitian_Warhe> david: Get a serial modem my son. Linuxant isn't quite the best.
[03:16] <Mr_Milenko> old one..
[03:16] <soundray> david, not sure if this applies, but have you checked http://linmodems.org ?
[03:16] <mustard5> david, I take it you are talking about the linuxant drivers for conexant?
[03:16] <bimberi> masingerz: on ubuntu breezy - x.org 6.8
[03:16] <mulder> linuxant is a ripoff
[03:16] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, I believe it would be in ~/.HOME/icons/BASE
[03:17] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, i don't have ubuntu
[03:17] <doskey> ra.da.net
[03:17] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, then I have no idea, I would bet you're outta luck without an install to pick it from
[03:17] <gp_aaron> hence why i'm asking in here
[03:17] <gp_aaron> maybe someone knows where i can get it
[03:18] <gp_aaron> if not
[03:18] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, best of luck
[03:18] <gp_aaron> maybe they could zip up their local copy
[03:18] <david> yes.il look on that site
[03:18] <vegos> anyone know what an APIC error is?
[03:18] <Activision> ss
[03:19] <Xappe> gp_aaron: hang on. i'll fetch the name for you...I hope...
[03:19] <soundray> gp_aaron, it's in ubuntu-artwork
[03:20] <luisito> gp_aaron, what for you want them? another linux distro?
[03:20] <gp_aaron> yeah
[03:20] <Xappe> it's called gimmac or somnething like that
[03:20] <Xappe> i'll do a short search, w8
[03:20] <misfit_toy> if it's gimmac then that's on art.gnome.org
[03:20] <misfit_toy> and gnome-looks.org as well
[03:20] <gp_aaron> Xappe, i heard it was called human on ubuntu
[03:20] <Amaranth> misfit_toy: that's jimmac
[03:20] <soundray> gp_aaron, yes it is. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-artwork/
[03:21] <misfit_toy> Amaranth, ah
[03:21] <Xappe> gp_aaron: yes, jimmac is the one
[03:21] <gp_aaron> Xappe, ok thanks :)
[03:22] <MunkieBoy> I have a question...how do I get KDM to display a theme ?
[03:23] <soundray> vegos, not precisely, but I had to sort one out before I was able to install Ubuntu...
[03:23] <Xappe> gp_aaron: i had to try remembering the name, by searching the old forums :) had to install it when the theme broke during hoary development
[03:23] <gp_aaron> heh
[03:23] <luisito> gp_aaron, I have them right now if you want.
[03:23] <gp_aaron> luisito, i got it
[03:23] <gp_aaron> thanks though:)
[03:23] <luisito> gp_aaron, ok
[03:24] <misfit_toy> for cursors that is
[03:25] <gp_aaron> i can't seem to get it to load though
[03:25] <vegos> what is apic
[03:25] <luisito> gp_aaron, they are on /usr/share/icons/Human/cursors
[03:25] <misfit_toy> luisito, he doesn't have ubuntu installed
[03:25] <luisito> gp_aaron, on a ubuntu distro of course :P
[03:25] <misfit_toy> luisito, zip it up for him and send it then ;)
[03:25] <soundray> vegos, Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller
[03:25] <sorush20> could anyone here help me with this compiling error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5405
[03:25] <gp_aaron> luisito, no ubuntu
[03:26] <luisito> gp_aaron, I tell him but it seems he got them
[03:26] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, i have the jimmac.tar.gz but it doesn't work..:|
[03:26] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, doesn't work on what?
[03:26] <gp_aaron> misfit_toy, i'm trying to load it up
[03:26] <gp_aaron> won't work
[03:26] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, in what? what distro?
[03:27] <korhalf> hey, how do i make date present the date in a format similar to what ls -al gives about files
[03:27] <gp_aaron> gnome using gcursor on archlinux
[03:27] <korhalf> similar to this format i mean : 2005-12-04 20:52
[03:27] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, I've seen some cursor themes just not load in gcursor on various distros, this might be one of them.
[03:28] <gp_aaron> i'll do it manually:P
[03:28] <rendi> hi how read end of file, what command to see that ?
[03:28] <soundray> korhalf, it's documented in man date
[03:28] <korhalf> soundray: can you explain
[03:28] <gp_aaron> luisito, dcc don't seem to work
[03:28] <misfit_toy> gp_aaron, firewall
[03:28] <N6REJ> mustard5: nope, that failed too :(
[03:29] <_jason> rendi, tail
[03:29] <mustard5> N6REJ, hmmm
[03:29] <rendi> tail ?
[03:29] <gp_aaron> firewall, iptables, router, nat all kinds of things
[03:29] <rendi> type tail ?
[03:29] <mustard5> ok send me a pm I'll walk you through this idea..I can't find the link
[03:29] <korhalf> soundray: whats the exact command
[03:29] <mustard5> N6REJ,  ok send me a pm I'll walk you through this idea..I can't find the link
[03:29] <_jason> rendi,  tail path/to/file
[03:29] <luisito> gp_aaron, hmmm.... email?
[03:29] <soundray> korhalf, I don't know the exact invocation, but you can work it out yourself if you enter 'man date' and look at the FORMAT section.
[03:29] <luisito> gp_aaron, or msn
[03:29] <gp_aaron> luisito, i think the one i got works
[03:30] <gp_aaron> sec
[03:30] <rendi> thanks _jason
[03:30] <_jason> rendi, tail outputs the last 10 lines of a file
[03:30] <N6REJ> mustard5: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5407
[03:30] <mahangu_> i need to package an OOo presentation for winblows, how can I do this and makes sure fonts and stuff will carry over?
[03:30] <luisito> gp_aaron, ok.
[03:30] <soundray> korhalf, date --iso-8601 gives you the date (not time) part.
[03:30] <Thunderguy> Hey, should I be concerned about 13% block fragmentation?
[03:31] <winnipegm> how do u mount ntfs drives on ubuntu
[03:31] <korhalf> soundray: man i cant figure it out, its giving me errors
[03:31] <Xenguy> !u
[03:31] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[03:31] <korhalf> date -d %D
[03:31] <soundray> Thunderguy, is your disk nearly full?
[03:31] <levander> Just upgraded to breezy and first thing I notice is that I can no longer "hide" the sticky notes on my desktop.  Somebody can tell me how to do this?
[03:31] <winnipegm> how do i mount ntfs on unbuntu
[03:32] <soundray> !tell winnipegm about ntfs
[03:32] <Thunderguy> soundray: nope, but the partition is probably reaching 80% full
[03:32] <levander> !tell levander about ntfs
[03:32] <Xenguy> winnipegm: AFAIK ntfs is read-only except with experimental only software
[03:32] <gp_aaron> yep all good
[03:32] <gp_aaron> :)
[03:32] <gp_aaron> thanks
[03:32] <gp_aaron> byebye
[03:32] <_jason> levander, you can just pm ubotu and he will tell you all you want to know
[03:32] <soundray> Thunderguy, what file system is on that partition?