[16:40]  * blackboxsw goes through https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/859 thx falcojr/hamalq in detail now thanks folks.
[16:45] <hamalq> +1
[16:45] <hamalq> :)
[16:56]  * blackboxsw hamalq: falcojr I think that is really clean and tidies things up more as it's explicit. I have a couple of minor doc comments that I'll wrap in in the next 20 mins as I test this. but otherwise I think it looks great.
[16:56] <hamalq> thanks
[16:57] <blackboxsw> and I love seeing us remove private methods/overrides btw
[16:58]  * blackboxsw hamalq: while you await my minor review can you update the PR description to better describe this generic prefer_fqdn_over_hostname switch given that it's more broad than RHEL only
[16:58]  * blackboxsw we will be using that example commit message description at the top of your PR when squash merging
[16:58] <blackboxsw> we will be using that example commit message description at the top of your PR when squash merging
[16:59] <hamalq> ok
[17:01] <blackboxsw>  I'm going to walk through what data was in distro._cfg  too just to confirm the set_option approach to see if it raises any concerns.
[17:02] <blackboxsw> like whether there is a possibility of merged cfg from disk here that would have provided this config visibility without the need for distro.set_option
[17:03]  * blackboxsw which I think I saw someone's comments earlier this week/last week about unavailability of that data
[17:12] <blackboxsw> hamalq: minor doc nit submitted on your branch. I'm testing now https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/859/files
[18:48] <blackboxsw> falcojr: in testing with a package built from 859  on lxc across upgrade + dirtty reboot I'm seeing cloud-init status --long fail with 'DataSourceNoCloud' object has no attribute 'vendordata2_raw'. I'm going to check daily PPA to confirm it's unrelated but wondering if you've seen this
[18:50] <falcojr> would that be this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1922739
[18:50] <falcojr> blackboxsw: ^
[18:51] <falcojr> blackboxsw: also, I missed kind of an important issue in the SRU... https://github.com/cloud-init/ubuntu-sru/pull/201 Can I get a quick review?
[18:51] <blackboxsw> and there's another vote for me not paying enough attention to daily triage. sorry about that
[18:52] <falcojr> that's why we all have our separate triage days...so we don't have to pay attention ;)
[19:00] <blackboxsw> ok I have a reproducer on xenial for that https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1922739/comments/4
[19:00] <blackboxsw> so daily builds show this issue after upgrade
[19:00] <blackboxsw> rather upgrades to daily builds show this issue
[19:04] <blackboxsw> falcojr: hamalq I'm out of the way on https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/859#pullrequestreview-637036841 and leave it to integration testing for the corner cases. thanks for the chance to look again
[19:07] <blackboxsw> minor doc nits from me that are easily fielded I think
[19:39] <hamalq> blackboxsw: anytthing needed from me ( sorry i went out for a while )
[19:40] <blackboxsw> hamalq: just a push with minor doc updates  https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/859#discussion_r614236688
[19:40] <blackboxsw> since they get rendered into https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html#update-hostname
[19:44] <hamalq> blackboxsw: done
[20:37] <hamalq> blackboxsw: its ready to merge right
[20:54]  * blackboxsw hamalq: I think so, but I leave that to falcojr, he said he was going to check a couple things in integration test to be sure. I'll confirm tomorrow as I believe he is end-of-day today. if there is  anything blocking he'll respond on the PR
[20:55] <blackboxsw> for me it's +1 so I won't gate it landing.
[21:21] <hamalq> thanks
[22:46] <pythag0re> Hello,
[22:48] <pythag0re> I have a problem with m DataSource. /usr/lib/cloud-init/ds-identify --force finds out properly and creates the properly list within the file /run/cloud-init/cloud.cfg but when I run cloud-init init the datasource is never invoked. In the logs, I only see Loaded datasource DataSourceNone - DataSourceNone. I'm not running the cloud-init on any cloud-providers
[22:49] <pythag0re> any idea on what I could do / look so that it is invoked?


[18:27] <reeson> How can I block some IP from ssh command?
[18:28] <ikonia> iptables ? hosts_deny, sshd_config ignore
[18:29] <reeson> ikonia: currently is just one IP
[18:29] <ikonia> reeson: then block it ?
[18:29] <Donovan_> explosive: thx, seems to work again (after purging the nvidia driver). however, the gui is slow as hell.... (that was the main reason I've installed the nvidia driver). any idea how I can speed it up?
[18:30] <Snackerr> heyyyy, so if you drag&drop bookmarks from Chromium, to the Desktop, it creates a URL Launcher.  COOL!!   ---now, my question is:  how do you make it use the SAME ICON, for the Desktop Launcher. (that the bookmark uses for an icon)?
[18:31] <explosive> Donovan_: is something using the cpu a lot? try "top" in a terminal
[18:31] <ikonia> Donovan_: because it's not able to use the nvidia card now
[18:31] <Donovan_> explosive: not really, compiz is at 15% CPU load
[18:31] <ikonia> Donovan_: so it's working hard to render the desktop, you've just crippled your graphics capability
[18:32] <explosive> Snackerr: get the name of the icon and point it to it, might be a hardwired thing though
[18:32] <Donovan_> ikonia: well, what alternative do I have? when I install the driver I can't login anymore. without nvidia driver its slow as hell... :-/
[18:32] <explosive> Donovan_: try sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[18:32] <explosive> how did you install the nvidia driver?
[18:32] <ikonia> Donovan_: define "can't login"
[18:32] <Snackerr> explosive,  IIRC, windows does this exact thing automatically (creates a URL shortcut with the correct icon)
[18:32] <Donovan_> ikonia: "org.gtk.vfs.daemon: a connecton to the bus can't be made"
[18:33] <explosive> Snackerr: iirc windows != linux
[18:33] <Donovan_> I get logged out after I enter the PW
[18:33] <Snackerr> explosive,  LOL
[18:33] <Donovan_> explosive: via the additional driver thing (GUI)
[18:33] <ikonia> Donovan_: I suspect your home directory has some files owned by root
[18:33] <ikonia> after you've done something with sudo
[18:33] <ikonia> so the session data is owned by root
[18:33] <ikonia> and you're not root so you can't read/write to it when you login
[18:33] <explosive> ikonia: he purged nvidia from recovery and got his desktop back
[18:34] <ikonia> create a new user, install the nvidia drivers, then log out as your current user, and login as a new one
[18:34] <ikonia> explosive: yes ?
[18:34] <explosive> Donovan_: did you have multiple options there or just 1 driver?
[18:34] <Donovan_> explosive: just one (well two, the nvidia and the ubuntu one)
[18:34] <Donovan_> sec
[18:34] <explosive> ikonia: i'm saying it's not a xauthority/etc. issue since he after purging his nvidia driver he got access to his desktop back
[18:34] <ikonia> explosive: I didn't say xauthority
[18:35] <ikonia> (I know where you are going)
[18:35] <ikonia> the nvidia drivers have some additional extensions
[18:35] <Donovan_> explosive: I have "NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42 from nvidia-361" and "using x.ORG X server"
[18:35] <explosive> ikonia: he did mention a dbus.gtk.vfs... unable to connect error earlier
[18:35] <explosive> in case that's useful to the problem
[18:36] <ikonia> explosive: yes, thats why I said what I did
[18:36] <Donovan_> explosive: I'm now running "ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"... and get "your system has UEFI boot enabled blabla"
[18:36] <Donovan_> "disable UEFI secure boot? yes / no"
[18:36] <explosive> Donovan_: ok try yes
[18:37] <unix4linux__> can someone give me a hand with my video settings: https://pastebin.com/Wew0vp8s I am able to see 3840x2160 as an option when I manually set xrandr but I can't actually set the screen to that resolution. When I reboot, the option in the display settings is completely gone
[18:37] <reesson> ikonia: sorry, I think my connection failed
[18:37] <curlyears> query:  is there a voice recognition package available for ubuntu, and is a Pi3 gutsy enough t use it, and still be able to do other things?
[18:38] <Donovan_> explosive: ok, ubuntu-drivers autoinstall is done. looks like it has installed nvidia_361. should I try to login + out? or reboot?
[18:38] <reesson> ikonia: I added a IP like this: sshd: d.z.y.x to/etc/hosts.deny
[18:38] <explosive> Donovan_: try 2 things before you leave
[18:39] <explosive> Donovan_: first, uname -r && dpkg -l linux-headers*
[18:39] <explosive> check if the headers for your current running kernel (first line in the output) is installed
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Voice_Recognition
[18:40] <explosive> second, type find ~ ! -user $USER , and check if some files aren't owned by your user to test ikonia's theory
[18:40] <Donovan_> explosive: hmmm what do you mean? which kernel? -> http://pastebin.com/raw/PSu8khLG
[18:41] <curlyears> thqnks, MonkeyDust
[18:41] <explosive> Donovan_: ok, they're installed (4.4.0-22)
[18:42] <Donovan_> explosive: cool, regarding your second question: "find ~ ! -user $USER" doesn't return anything, so I guess thats fine?
[18:42] <explosive> Donovan_: yes
[18:42] <Donovan_> good, should I try a reboot? or login / logout?
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> explosive  neat command
[18:42] <explosive> Donovan_: try a reboot
[18:43] <excal> okay I'm a bit of a complete newbie with linux networking; another server, running LTS 14.04. can shell in but I can't see m to get it to resolve anything once on the box. thus, things like apt-get are problematic. It smells like a DNS problem but I'm not entirely sure where to start with that. This is a completely fresh install
[18:43] <Donovan_> explosive: I just logged out, and I'm no longer able to log in (via gnome). should I still try a reboot?
[18:43] <teward> excal: static IP, or does it get the IP automatically from the router?
[18:45] <Donovan_> explosive: syslog says "a connection to the bus can't be made"... so same error... also, I see "gnome.sessions-binary: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry..."
[18:45] <Donovan_> looks like I have zoo in my desktop PC? ;)
[18:45] <explosive> Donovan_: haha
[18:45] <excal> teward: it's in a VPS in a datacentre; cat /etc/network/interfaces reads like it's static
[18:46] <excal> an address and netmask is defined for that interface
[18:46] <excal> I get the feeling something is missing there...
[18:46] <Ben64> excal: so whats in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:46] <excal> it's empty
[18:46] <Donovan_> explosive: so, any suggestion what I should do? reboot? or try to fix it somehow (how? :-/ )
[18:47] <Ben64> excal: try adding "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[18:47] <excal> and I take it i'll need to restart networking?
[18:47] <Ben64> no
[18:48] <excal> that did the trick - thanks :)
[18:48] <explosive> Donovan_: try to upload /var/log/Xorg.0.log in case it has more info, there's a bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1571206 unfortunately it's not solved yet but you could add info to it
[18:48] <Ben64> excal: :D
[18:49] <Ben64> excal: does the top of the file say DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND? if so, it might get overwritten next boot
[18:49] <explosive> Donovan_: how much ram does the pc have?
[18:50] <Donovan_> explosive: 32GB
[18:50] <explosive> Donovan_: also check ~/.xsession-errors for clues
[18:52] <Donovan_> explosive: xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/raw/ScDu1Hd5 (I don't see anything "worrying" there)
[18:52] <Donovan_> explosive: .xession-errors: "openConnection: connect: No such file or directory"
[18:52] <Donovan_> and then "gnome-session main process terminated with status 1"
[18:52] <explosive> Donovan_: searching for "nvidia-361 back to login screen" brings up a lot of forum threads, not suggesting a rtfm, there's a lot of stuff that might be useful in that search query though
[18:53] <Donovan_> explosive: ok.... will give it a try....
[18:55] <explosive> Donovan_: do you have nvidia-prime installed?
[18:55] <Donovan_> explosive: apperently, I'm about to remove nvidia-* and apt asks me if "nvidia-prime*" should be removed as well
[18:56] <Cablegunmaster> question trying to acces my pi through Wan, how to configure my sshd_config?
[18:57] <explosive> Donovan_: one of those threads says to install nvidia-364 if available, worth a shot i guess
[18:57] <Donovan_> yep, will try that right now
[18:58] <Donovan_> funny thing is, I had similar troubles when I've installed ubuntu 14... looks likey these kind of troubles always reappear? :-/
[19:00] <explosive> Donovan_: yeah, needs a little tinkering to get it working right
[19:01] <Donovan_> explosive: installed.... rebooting... *drummrolls*
[19:01] <explosive> Donovan_: it's just typical linux, when things work straight out of the box you be surprised not the opposite :D
[19:02] <Donovan_> explosive: no luck :(
[19:02] <explosive> !info nvidia-current
[19:03] <explosive> Donovan_: what's the exact model of your card?
[19:05] <Donovan_> explosive: NVIDIA GTX 980
[19:06] <thyri> Erm, hello everyone.
[19:06] <Donovan_> explosive: some googlers suggest disabling secure boot. I tried that before, but couldn't find that option in my bios
[19:07] <Donovan_> explosive: "Secure Boot might block the nvidia driver from loading" <- would that be possible?
[19:07] <explosive> Donovan_: i also saw you might need to explicitly enable nvidia in the bios (?)
[19:08] <explosive> Donovan_: yes
[19:09] <thyri> I'm brand new to Linux Ubuntu, and I'm having a hard time finding thorough answers to my questions when I search them on Google, so I thought I'd come in here to see if someone could help...  This laptop used to be a Windows machine, and I'm pretty sure it came with more than the 56.9 GB the Properties menu shows is available when I rightclick File System.
[19:10] <Cablegunmaster> how to test ssh routes? As in verbose command? debugging?
[19:10] <bekks> thyri: So take a look at "sudo fdisk -l"
[19:10] <explosive> thyri: open a terminal and type "sudo parted -l" and paste the output in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:10] <Cablegunmaster> to see where I could open something up ? I got a port 8081 forwarded to 22 for ssh on a orangepi
[19:10] <Cablegunmaster> but no clue if it works, internally ssh works
[19:10] <thyri> Crap.  It's asking me for a password.
[19:11] <bekks> Cablegunmaster: Those statements doesnt make much sense. What are you actually trying to do?
[19:11] <explosive> thyri: use your user's password
[19:11] <bekks> thyri: So enter it.
[19:11] <thyri> is there a default password?  My papa didn't tell me he put a password on here.
[19:11] <Cablegunmaster> bekks: ssh on 192.domain works   ssh on Wan network fails me.
[19:11] <explosive> thyri: yes, it would be the password he used when first installing
[19:11] <thyri> I didn't have to enter a password when I turned the laptop on.
[19:11] <thyri> ugh.
[19:11] <bekks> Cablegunmaster: What is "192.domain"?
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> thyri  the password you used to login
[19:11] <explosive> thyri: that'd be the autologin
[19:11] <OerHeks> thyri, ask him
[19:12] <Cablegunmaster> bekks: local adresses (intern network)
[19:12] <Cablegunmaster> bekks: wanna use the external ip.
[19:12] <bekks> Cablegunmaster: And whats the particular problem in doing so?
[19:12] <bekks> Cablegunmaster: And which external IP of what? Of your router?
[19:12] <Cablegunmaster> yep
[19:12] <Donovan_> explosive: so, in the bios I see two options: "Secure-boot-status: enabled" and "typ of the operating systems: windows-uefi-mode"
[19:13] <Donovan_> I can't change the first option, only the second
[19:13] <Cablegunmaster> bekks: trying to use router : 8081  - > internal ip :22
[19:13] <bekks> Cablegunmaster: Then you need a box outside of your network, you cannot test that from being inside your network.
[19:13] <thyri> Texted him. Grr.
[19:13] <explosive> Donovan_: try to set an admin password for the bios, then the option might be usable
[19:13] <CannedSpinach> anyone here use Geany?
[19:13] <thyri> So what's sudo, anyway?
[19:14] <Cablegunmaster> bekks: using thether internet from phone no problem
[19:14] <bekks> Cablegunmaster: Which is technically "outside" of your network,
[19:14] <k1l> thyri: sudo is to grant the command root permissions.
[19:14] <thyri> oh ok.
[19:14] <Cablegunmaster> bekks: 3g of the provide not using same network
[19:17] <Donovan_> explosive: I just defined a password.... rebooted.... now I get a pw promt when entering the bios, but I can't enter a password.
[19:17] <Donovan_> #failed
[19:18] <ioria> CannedSpinach, sometimes ... what's the problem ?
[19:18] <root_> s
[19:18] <root_> i am still root hu...
[19:18] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[19:18] <CannedSpinach> I'm just trying to figure out if I can get the "Documents" view to automatically show all .py files from a certain folder
[19:18] <CannedSpinach> instead of having to manually select them
[19:18] <k1l> root_: stop trolling in here.
[19:19] <root_> i tryed sudo -i .... got me 3 insted of $.. tought that was it
[19:19] <root_> #
[19:19] <root_> i honestly tryed
[19:19] <k1l> !sudo | root_
[19:19] <explosive> Donovan_: O.o
[19:20] <Donovan_> explosive: I'm doomed...
[19:20] <bekks> Donovan_: Just reset your BIOS.
[19:20] <explosive> Donovan_: which laptop model is it?
[19:20] <thyri> *sigh*  No answer yet.  Oh well.  I guess I'll just have to wait until later and call...
[19:20] <explosive> thyri: type "lsblk" in a terminal
[19:21] <Donovan_> explosive: motherboard is ASUS X99-DELUXE
[19:21]  * Donovan_ tries to find the doc
[19:21] <bekks> thyri: Given you got that info - how does it help you to know wether the disk is bigger than you thought?
[19:21] <thyri> I didn't get the password.  And the disk is *smaller* than I thought, not bigger.
[19:22] <thyri> lsblk helped, thank you explosive.
[19:22] <bekks> thyri: You are looking at one filesystem until now.
[19:22] <thyri> what do you mean, until now?
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> thyri  for more details, type   lsblk -f
[19:23] <explosive> MonkeyDust: needs sudo unfortunately
[19:23] <explosive> nevermind
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> explosive  no it doesnt, blkid does
[19:23] <thyri> MonkeyDust that didn't give me anything helpful.
[19:23] <akik> root_: so sudo -i worked for you. remember to log out of that shell when you've done your work
[19:23] <explosive> MonkeyDust: yuppers, it used to, as lsblk uses blkid :)
[19:24] <thyri> sda is blank, sda1 has a / under Mountpoint, sda2 is blank, and sda5 has [SWAP] under Mountpoint.
[19:24] <Cablegunmaster> error: ssh_exchange_identification:  Connection closed by remote host
[19:24] <Cablegunmaster> how to prevail this message and be victorious bekks any idea :)?
[19:24] <bekks> Cablegunmaster: ssh -v, ssh -vv, ssh -vvv :P
[19:25] <explosive> Donovan_: maybe if you remove the battery and hold the power button for a little it might work somehow?
[19:25] <explosive> pretty strange..
[19:26] <ioria> CannedSpinach, the only way i found it's selecting all the files ...
[19:26] <thyri> Going to drive across town to my friend's house.  Maybe by that time Papa will get back to me.  Ciao for now!
[19:26] <CannedSpinach> you can't save the files you've selected as a project?
[19:26] <CannedSpinach> seems like kind of a basic feature to include in an IDE
[19:26] <CannedSpinach> but I'm new to this
[19:28] <Cablegunmaster> bekks: it says allot of keys. but no idea how to load one and be verified on both pc's . guess it all comes down to encryption keys
[19:29] <Cablegunmaster> how can I disable looking for keys xD
[19:29] <Donovan_> explosive: it's even more easy, there is a reset button :P
[19:29] <bekks> Cablegunmaster: It basically comes to down read the output and investigate why you get the error.
[19:29] <explosive> Donovan_: great :D
[19:29] <Cablegunmaster> thanks bekks :)
[19:30] <Cablegunmaster> gonna investigate *puts on sherlock helmet*
[19:30] <Donovan_> explosive: http://www.technorms.com/45538/disable-enable-secure-boot-asus-motherboard-uefi-bios-utility <- omg
[19:30] <explosive> Donovan_: haha, was just reading that and thinking the same
[19:31] <explosive> looks like from the future
[19:31] <Donovan_> explosive: so, did I understood it correct: I need to backup some "secure boot keys" to a USB stick and then delete them from the motherboard?
[19:33] <explosive> Donovan_: follow the guide i guess
[19:34] <Donovan_> explosive: good... I will try that tomorrow... it was a long and terrible day with upgrading windows, reinstalling ubuntu, then reinstalling windows, then buying a new windows 10 license and reinstalling windows 10 again, fighting with nvidia driver... and now messing up the bios
[19:34] <Donovan_> explosive: thx for your help anyway!
[19:34] <explosive> Donovan_: alright, no problem!
[19:35] <werner__> hi my linux has to update but says it only have minimal space left while the there is like 280gb open space...how do I correct this?
[19:36] <noroot> am i still root?
[19:37] <LtL> noroot: no
[19:38] <Bashing-om> werner__: 'df -h ; df -i ' to show the dosk space usage . Maybe the /boot partition is full ?
[19:38] <OerHeks> noroot, maybe
[19:38] <noroot> comon
[19:38] <SnoopyD> hi
[19:38] <SnoopyD> how do I register at freenode?
[19:38] <LtL> noroot: type in your irc client; '/exec whoami'
[19:38] <OerHeks> noroot, what says: whoami
[19:38] <noroot> whoami?
[19:38] <noroot> lol
[19:39] <werner__> can i move this to another partition
[19:39] <In4rtia> SnoopyD: try /msg NickServer REGISTER yourpassword youremail
[19:39] <noroot> it says noroot
[19:39] <werner__> bashing=om
[19:39] <OerHeks> !register
[19:39] <noroot> !register
[19:39] <noroot> ?
[19:40] <SnoopyD> In4rtia, thank you!
[19:40] <In4rtia> You are welcome dude! :D
[19:40] <Bashing-om> werner__: Show in a pastebin the commands return of 'df -h ; df -i ' can then give better advise .
[19:41] <werner__> Bashing-om  ??? new here where do i find this?
[19:41] <SnoopyD> In4rtia, it doesn't work
[19:41] <In4rtia> why not?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> werner__  ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal, type it there
[19:42] <SnoopyD> >NickServer< register
[19:42] <SnoopyD> * NickServer :No such nick/channel
[19:42] <LtL> nickserv
[19:43] <werner__> 'df -h ; df -i '
[19:43] <Bashing-om> werner__: Then a easir wayd .. in terminal do : ' df -h | nc termbin.com 9999 ; df -i | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . The result is a URL pack in terminal; pass that link back here and we can access the files .
[19:44] <werner__> werner@Werner-HP-ProBook-4520s:~$ df -h ; df =i
[19:44] <werner__> Filesystem                           Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[19:44] <werner__> udev                                 3,8G  4,0K  3,8G   1% /dev
[19:44] <werner__> tmpfs                                777M  1,4M  775M   1% /run
[19:44] <werner__> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--studio--vg-root  285G  8,8G  262G   4% /
[19:44] <werner__> none                                 4,0K     0  4,0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> werner__  next time, use a pastebin ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:45] <OerHeks> !paste
[19:47] <ioria> CannedSpinach, try Tool -> Plugin -> File Browser  ans select it in the side bar instead od Document
[19:51] <seymour> j§ú
[19:51] <seymour> hi
[19:54] <kovacs> HI grills
[19:59]  * alkejl4jtgajdfsk
[20:00] <alkejl4jtgajdfsk> quit
[20:00] <niklas> hi
[20:03] <kirill> quit
[20:03] <kirill> disconnect
[20:03] <lordcirth> kirill, /quit
[20:04] <kirill> thx)
[20:09] <gauri> hello
[20:09] <lordcirth> gauri, hi
[20:10] <gauri> I am unable to shift my window to other workspace
[20:10] <gauri> I am using shift + ctrl + atl + arrow keys
[20:10]  * stormchaser3000 is still having trouble figuring this out
[20:10] <gauri> I have hp elitebook 8440p, and using 16.04
[20:11] <stormchaser3000> i can't get my MSI gaming laptop to recognize my nvidia graphics card
[20:11] <gauri> lordcirth, Is there a fix ?
[20:11] <lordcirth> gauri, can you switch workspaces with ctrl-alt-arrow?
[20:12] <Gallomimia> stormchaser3000: did you install any drivers?
[20:12] <stormchaser3000> Gallomima: yes supposedly the ones for my graphics card
[20:12] <stormchaser3000> and that did nothing
[20:12] <Gallomimia> from where?
[20:12] <gauri> lordcirth, I can switch workspaces
[20:12] <gauri> with that combination
[20:13] <lordcirth> gauri, did you update Ubuntu?
[20:13] <gauri> yes
[20:13] <gauri> just now
[20:13] <lordcirth> gauri, go to keyboard shortcuts and set it.  I had the same problem once.
[20:14] <lordcirth> I think they unset the keybind in 16.04
[20:14] <stormchaser3000> the nvidia-361 from just a sec i am trying to open the software sources thing
[20:14] <gauri> but pressing the super key still shows the shortcut
[20:14] <stormchaser3000> Gallomimia, http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu
[20:15] <lordcirth> gauri, well, I'm not sure that that text loads the actual set keybinds, I think it's static
[20:15] <Gallomimia> stormchaser3000: what kernel are you using?
[20:15] <Gallomimia> what distro
[20:15] <gauri> lordcirth, ohh
[20:15] <stormchaser3000> Gallomimia: ubuntu
[20:15] <lordcirth> gauri, there's already an option in shortcuts for the feature, you just need to select it and do the keybind you want
[20:15] <Gallomimia> stormchaser3000: that doesn't answer the question
[20:16] <lordcirth> stormchaser3000, he probably wants your kernel version
[20:16] <stormchaser3000> i kno
[20:16] <stormchaser3000> i know*
[20:16] <stormchaser3000> i am trying to find that out
[20:16] <gauri> lordcirth, name of the shortcut ?
[20:16] <Gallomimia> not the kernel version. just the ubuntu version
[20:16] <Gallomimia> 14.04 probably needs PPAs for the drivers. but 16.04 has them in the default repos
[20:16] <stormchaser3000> Gallomimia: ubuntu 16.04
[20:17] <Gallomimia> excellent
[20:17] <Gallomimia> so, you could probably remove that PPA, and the driver
[20:17] <Exagone313> Hi, is it possible to edit the grub scripts (that are used upon update-grub) and be sure it won't break with an update?
[20:17] <Gallomimia> and simply: apt install nvidia-xxx where xxx is the version of drivers recommended for your particular card
[20:17] <Gallomimia> Exagone313: it's never possible to be sure. but there's ways of editing the scripts. there's some that should be edited and some that shouldn't. i'm not sure which
[20:18] <Gallomimia> more in the manuals, or maybe the folks in #grub can help (i've never gotten much response)
[20:18] <lordcirth> gauri, dash, search "keyboard", shortcuts, navigation
[20:18] <lordcirth> gauri, there's a set of 4 to move in each direction
[20:18] <Exagone313> Gallomimia: the problem is about Ubuntu updates, not grub
[20:19] <Gallomimia> oh!
[20:19] <Gallomimia> yeah, those are often a problem if you have non-standard settings
[20:19] <Exagone313> if there is an update, it will check diff of files right?
[20:19] <Gallomimia> eh, hard to say
[20:19] <Exagone313> ok, I'll make copies
[20:19] <Gallomimia> depends what update. normal kernel updates usually respect your changes.
[20:20] <Gallomimia> or they auto-find any other OS you have and include that
[20:20] <Exagone313> if I use new names, it will be easy to check if new files appeared
[20:20] <Exagone313> is grub updated?
[20:20] <Gallomimia> i think you know more about the grub-update scripts than me
[20:20] <Gallomimia> yes
[20:20] <gauri> lordcirth, I think my keyboard cant register more than 3 keys at once
[20:20] <lordcirth> gauri, oh.  Some older keyboards do have that problem.  But didn't you say it worked before?
[20:21] <Gallomimia> stormchaser3000: can you describe in some more detail how you installed these drivers?
[20:21] <gauri> it never worked
[20:21] <Gallomimia> cause there's a couple right ways to install nvidia drivers, and a hundred wrong ways
[20:21] <gauri> lordcirth, I have newly installed it
[20:21] <lordcirth> gauri, I thought you said you just upgraded Ubuntu?
[20:22] <stormchaser3000> Gallomimia: well i apparently have a hybrid graphics setup. intel and nvidia
[20:22] <stormchaser3000> so i installed optimus
[20:22] <stormchaser3000> and bumblebee
[20:22] <Gallomimia> yes. that's some trouble. there's a way to select it. not familiar with it
[20:22] <El> Hello. Anyone knows how to disable the software updater popup that constantly asks me o reboot my computer?
[20:22] <Gallomimia> bumblebee is deprecated. or so i've heard
[20:23] <stormchaser3000> but they didn't see my graphics card either apparently
[20:23] <Gallomimia> El: yeah there's a setting under software updates
[20:23] <gauri> lordcirth, Ooh! limitations of text, No I have not upgraded from older version of ubuntu, I have newly dual booted my computer with ubuntu 16.04 and win 10
[20:23] <Gallomimia> uh... can't remember exactly
[20:23] <lordcirth> gauri, ah, you upgraded *to* Ubuntu.  I see.
[20:23] <lordcirth> gauri, well, if your keyboard doesn't support it, you can either get a better keyboard or change the keybinding to something simpler.
[20:23] <El> Gallomimia: I tried fiddling with settings but came up with nothing
[20:23] <Gallomimia> stormchaser3000: you should be able to simply install the driver in question and it will take care of the rest. all those extra packages aren't required. and you still haven't told me how you installed these drivers taht don't work
[20:24] <gauri> lordcirth, Yup, Is there a way to register more than 3 keys from the existing keyboard ?
[20:24] <stormchaser3000> i added the ppa and then installed them using the apt-get command
[20:24] <Gallomimia> El: i'm sorry i forget where it is exactly; not in front of ubuntu machine. the program where it lets you select mirrors and which repos has a tab for updates. changing that setting should be fine
[20:24] <lordcirth> gauri, it's a USB keyboard?
[20:24] <Gallomimia> stormchaser3000: ppa is not required under 16.04
[20:24] <stormchaser3000> i know i removed the ppa and am reinstalling the driver
[20:25] <Gallomimia> alright. here's hoping
[20:25] <gauri> lordcirth, No, I am talking about the inbuilt one
[20:25] <Gallomimia> uh, a reboot is required, you know this?
[20:25] <lordcirth> gauri, oh, it's a laptop?
[20:25] <OerHeks> El  this works .. http://askubuntu.com/a/403441 .. after reboot
[20:25] <stormchaser3000> yeah
[20:25] <OerHeks> :-D
[20:25] <stormchaser3000> i know
[20:25] <stormchaser3000> XD
[20:25] <gauri> lordcirth, Yes, it is a laptop
[20:25] <Gallomimia> k making sure :)
[20:25] <Gallomimia> good luck
[20:26] <lordcirth> gauri, ah.  Then I'm not aware of a way, seems like a hardware limit.
[20:26] <Gallomimia> hey channel are there any tutorials on how to work with a hybrid graphics system? nvidia-intel
[20:26] <gauri> lordcirth, I see , Then I guess I will change the shortcut to something 3 key-ed
[20:27] <Gallomimia> i'm interested to know if the 3 key limit persists under other OS's or the bios
[20:27] <gauri> lordcirth, thanks :)
[20:27] <lordcirth> gauri, np
[20:27] <El> Gallomimia: OerHeks : thanks I'll try this one. The one you told me last time didn't work :Ó
[20:27] <El> :þ
[20:27] <OerHeks> El should be the same one
[20:28] <stormchaser3000> Gallomimia: does it matter that lspci doens't see the graphics card?
[20:28] <lordcirth> Gallomimia, nvidia Optimus?
[20:28] <Gallomimia> that, i'm not sure. it doesn't see any card at all?
[20:28] <Gallomimia> is it desktop or laptop?
[20:28] <k1l> show the output of "lspci" in a pastebin
[20:28] <stormchaser3000> laptop
[20:28] <stormchaser3000> and no it does not see any card at all
[20:28] <Gallomimia> if the driver isn't functioning, it should at least say unknown vendor
[20:28] <OerHeks> maybe an bios option, nvidia disabled?
[20:28] <Gallomimia> hrm.
[20:28] <stormchaser3000> at least no nvidia card
[20:29] <Gallomimia> what k1l said
[20:30] <El> OerHeks: you told me about the no-show-notifications one, if I remember correctly. I don't have that hide-reboot one, I'll create it and try. Thanks
[20:30] <OerHeks> El:  ah correct indeed
[20:30] <stormchaser3000> Gallomimia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17100453/
[20:30] <prabhari_> hi everyone, having problems connecting to usb ethernet connection. was working fine earlier.
[20:31] <Gallomimia> under ubuntu?
[20:31] <prabhari_> yes
[20:31] <stormchaser3000> Gallomimia, yes this is under ubuntu why?
[20:31] <Anthaas> How do I change my DNS server in 14.04?
[20:32] <stormchaser3000> oh XD
[20:32] <Gallomimia> i was asking prabhari_.
[20:32] <Anthaas> My current DNS is for some stupid reason incorrectly resolving only 1 IP address...
[20:32] <Gallomimia> anyway, the nvidia card really isn't in there
[20:32] <prabhari_> i told you sir
[20:32] <prabhari_> its ubuntu
[20:33] <Gallomimia> so, you had ethernet USB nic working under ubuntu, and now it's not?
[20:33] <lordcirth> prabhari_, does the ethernet device appear under " ip link " ?
[20:33] <curlyears> Anthaas:  clarification please:  is it only resolving 1 (one) IP, and that incorrectly, or is it resolving most IPS, EC@EPT for that one?
[20:33] <rco> Hey all, is there any way to start an upstart service in the forground?
[20:33] <prabhari_> it appears alright but says unmanaged. i try to connect nothing happens
[20:34] <curlyears> an "upstart" service?  Do yu mean a "start up service?"
[20:34] <Anthaas> I dont know what the second part of your sentence means, BUT, I am trying to download a package for Sublime Text - and for some reason it is resolving https://packagecontrol.io incorrectly.
[20:34] <Anthaas> If I use Google's DNS, it resolves it correctly.
[20:34] <k1l> stormchaser3000: look into the bios if the nvidia card is disabled thre
[20:34] <lordcirth> curlyears, I would guess that he is talking about the Upstart init system Ubuntu used to use in 14.04?
[20:34] <stormchaser3000> Gallomimia: i am wondering how to do that. i go into the bios but i don't see any option for it
[20:34] <Anthaas> The IP it resolves to, when I use traceroute, ends up at my ISP's "Page not found" page.
[20:35] <stormchaser3000> k1l*
[20:35] <stormchaser3000> sorry poinged the wrong person
[20:35] <stormchaser3000> pinged*
[20:35] <Gallomimia> stormchaser3000: i'm at a loss what to do next. seems like it's switch off somehow. either there's a BIOS option, or maybe you need a driver for your mainboard to turn it on? perhaps a google search for your laptop's model and ubuntu + nvidia can help
[20:35] <curlyears> DNS system has it's weaknesses, Anthaas, and one of them is DNS servers that are sometimes oout of synch with the rest of the system
[20:35] <k1l> stormchaser3000: well, that depends on the make and model. i know some laptops have that settings
[20:36] <stormchaser3000> k1l: MSI GT72 2QD Dominator
[20:36] <curlyears> lordcirth: I see...was unaware of that system
[20:36] <Anthaas> curlyears, Yeah, it seems this is most likely the case - hense why I tried Google's to see if it would work. I believe any phishing attempt would have returned the same results for both?
[20:36] <Anthaas> Hense why I am asking how I can change my machine to use Google's DNS.
[20:37] <Gallomimia> Anthaas: if you're using GUI, under network connections there's a tab for DNS. can add whatever servers you want
[20:37] <Gallomimia> as for command line, that always throws me for a loop
[20:37] <curlyears> I bellieve you go into the System Setting page, select Networking, and step through there until you find what you're looking ofr.
[20:37] <calimero_82> hi guys
[20:38] <stormchaser3000> anyway i have got to go
[20:39] <Belldandu> Why is this still an issue :| https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfixadmin/+bug/1321955
[20:39] <k1l> !nomodeset | stormchaser3000 try that
[20:39] <Belldandu> 2 freaking years
[20:39] <Belldandu> and still its an issue
[20:40] <Belldandu> i legit broke mysql earlier because i forgot about this bug when trying to install it again
[20:40] <Belldandu> mariadb is a Dropin replacement for mysql
[20:40] <Belldandu> so postfixadmin should NOT be removing it
[20:41] <Belldandu> I honestly do not understand how NO one has fixed this by now
[20:42] <Belldandu> especially since there have been several ubuntu releases since then
[20:42] <Belldandu> and several users have reported it as a bug
[20:42] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfixadmin/+bug/1530625
[20:42] <Belldandu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfixadmin/+bug/1321955
[20:43] <Belldandu> its not new
[20:43] <OerHeks> Belldandu, no fix yet, you might want to confirm one of these bugreports
[20:43] <Belldandu> i did
[20:43] <Belldandu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfixadmin/+bug/1321955
[20:43] <Belldandu> Its been like this for 2 years
[20:43] <Belldandu> the bug is not new
[20:43] <Belldandu> it has been confirmed WAY too many times
[20:43] <OerHeks> ugly :-(
[20:44] <explosive> you know what else is not new? the fact that linux is free
[20:44] <prabhari_> does anyone help me fix my usb ethernet connection please
[20:44] <hhee> hey guys is Audacious has progress bar for song?
[20:44] <Belldandu> yeah linux is free and yet the fix for this mariadb crap is so easy its sad it hasnt been fixed yet
[20:45] <Belldandu> 2 years for a simple fix
[20:45] <Belldandu> and no one has done it
[20:45] <LtL> hhee: it has a timer, forget if it has progress .. i think so
[20:45] <Belldandu> and new bug reports for it just KEEP coming
[20:46] <ericrajuin> hehe: yes it does
[20:46] <explosive> you can't expect anything
[20:46] <OerHeks> Belldandu,  nothing we can do about it here.. tried #ubuntu-server too ?
[20:46] <hhee> LtL, timer i see
[20:46] <hhee> ericrajuin, where is it?
[20:47] <tgm4883> Belldandu: so fix it?
[20:47] <calimero_82> it's better to install lubuntu 16.04 or 14.04?
[20:47] <LtL> hhee: in the playlist
[20:47] <calimero_82> i've lubuntu 15.10
[20:48] <alejandro_> hola
[20:48] <LtL> hhee: winamp 2 skin is nice fyi
[20:49] <ericrajuin> yeah love the classic winamp UI
[20:50] <curlyears> Belldandu:  uif the fix is so simple, why haven't YOU submitted it?
[20:50] <curlyears> just sitting around carping because someone else isn't giving gheir work away to you for frere, is what you're doing
[20:51] <curlyears> s/frere/free/
[20:51] <Anthaas> Ok guys, I think I found the problem. I have no idea how to fix it though.
[20:51] <curlyears> Anthaas: ?
[20:51] <Anthaas> For some reason, Sublime Text is attempting to use my Uni network proxy, despite the fact I have no network proxy set on the machine (I just checked in Network > Network Proxies).
[20:52] <curlyears> hmmm
[20:52] <NightSmoke101> hello everyone
[20:52] <Anthaas> Its connecting because its an outward facing IP, BUT the network itself isn't letting me forward because Im not on campus.
[20:52] <curlyears> I have no experience in that end of networking, sorry
[20:52] <lordcirth> Anthaas, and non-sublime traffic works correctly?
[20:53] <NightSmoke101> how are u guy's ?
[20:53] <lordcirth> NightSmoke101, hi, good, thanks.
[20:53] <NightSmoke101> ur welcome :)
[20:54] <NightSmoke101> i'm new here =)
[20:54] <Anthaas> lordcirth, It seems so yes
[20:54] <MeMReS> ns identify thematrix
[20:54] <lordcirth> NightSmoke101, yes I guessed that :P  Did you need help with something, or just hanging out?
[20:54] <lordcirth> Anthaas, that's interesting.  Do you use a different interface when on campus?
[20:55] <Anthaas> When I am using a specific wi-fi network on campus, I have to use a specific network proxy.
[20:55] <NightSmoke101> both, i'm exploring IRC for the first time so i'm trying to see how it works, and what is can do, and in the same time trying to learn something else in other fields :)
[20:55] <Anthaas> Off-campus, I tend to use my own network with no proxy etc. I am currently off-campus.
[20:56] <lordcirth> Anthaas, ok, but you use the same wifi interface for both.
[20:57] <Anthaas> In terms of NIC, yes.
[20:57] <lordcirth> Anthaas, have you checked Sublime's settings for proxy stuff?
[20:58] <Anthaas> lordcirth, One moment - I will try to work out how to do that now.
[20:58] <lordcirth> A few programs keep their own proxy settings.
[20:59] <xploshioon> hello, is there anyone that can help me with this? https://gist.github.com/xploshioOn/7fcab2b1619a0c02e568047a96744bb8 is an ubuntu 14.04
[21:00] <xploshioon> a problem with libpulse.so.0
[21:06] <superguest> I am trying to install an Ubuntu package (http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html) but the author did not package his software for Xenial (16.04)
[21:06] <Anthaas> lordcirth, Seems I am buggered :/
[21:07] <Anthaas> lordcirth, Quite frustrating really...
[21:07] <lordcirth> !language | Anthaas
[21:07] <lordcirth> Anthaas, So nothing about proxies in sublime settings?
[21:07] <Anthaas> Oh sorry, thats not really considered a bad word where I am from :/
[21:07] <Anthaas> Nothing :/
[21:07] <lordcirth> It is in many places
[21:07] <superguest> But he did package for Quantal
[21:07] <lordcirth> Interesting problem
[21:08] <superguest> Will I be able to install the Quantal package on Xenial (16.04)?
[21:08] <lordcirth> Anthaas, have you rebooted since connecting to off-campus wifi?
[21:08] <Anthaas> lordcirth, Yes, I have only just booted the machine up (just, as in when this problem arose)
[21:08] <lordcirth> ok
[21:09] <Anthaas> lordcirth, I tried adding nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> into my resolv.conf as a temporary solution, but my network is still using <IP_ADDRESS> for DNS.
[21:10] <Anthaas> s/network/machine
[21:10] <lordcirth> Anthaas, many networking things in ubuntu desktop ignore those sorts of settings in favor of their own, unfortunately
[21:10] <lorddoskias1> hello, i'm trying to allow my user to start qemu without requiring a password, this is the line in my sudoers file i added: nbor ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64
[21:10] <lordcirth> Anthaas, did you restart networking after, though?
[21:10] <lorddoskias1> however it still requires a password
[21:11] <Anthaas> Shall I try restarting the machine?
[21:11] <explosive> lorddoskias1: did he log out and back in?
[21:11] <lorddoskias1> explosive: nope
[21:11] <explosive> lorddoskias1: he has to
[21:11] <lorddoskias1> is there a way to do it without logging out
[21:12] <explosive> lorddoskias1: hmm, actually i dont think he needs to
[21:12] <explosive> lorddoskias1: what happens when he types sudo -l ?
[21:12] <lordcirth> No, sudo should check each call
[21:12] <Anthaas> lordcirth, I didn't specifically restart it, didn't realise I'd need to - should I try restarting the machine instead?
[21:13] <lorddoskias1> User nbor may run the following commands on fisk:
[21:13] <lorddoskias1>     (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64
[21:13] <lorddoskias1> (ALL : ALL) ALL
[21:13] <lordcirth> Anthaas, no it's fine.  Just run "sudo systemctl restart networking" and see if that applies settings
[21:13] <explosive> lorddoskias1: ok, what's the command he's trying to run exactly?
[21:13] <Anthaas> lordcirth, Don't have systemctl
[21:13] <Anthaas> apt-get?
[21:13] <lordcirth> lorddoskias1, that looks correct.  Also in future don't paste multiple lines to channel, please, use pastebin
[21:13] <lorddoskias1> ok
[21:13] <lordcirth> Anthaas, "service networking restar"
[21:13] <lordcirth> t*
[21:14] <lordcirth> Sorry, 15.04 and later have systemd
[21:14] <lorddoskias1> so this is the command : http://paste.ubuntu.com/17101461/
[21:14] <HackerII> wouldnt it be "sudo service network-manager restart" ?
[21:14] <Anthaas> lordcirth, stop: Job failed while stopping        start: Job is already running: networking
[21:15] <lorddoskias1> which qemu-system-x86_64 returns: /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64
[21:15] <ubuntu> Hi
[21:15] <lordcirth> Anthaas, did you use sudo?
[21:15] <Anthaas> lordcirth, I did.
[21:15] <Guest21456> Hello, I'm new in Ubuntu.
[21:15] <lordcirth> HackerII, yes, I forgot to be specific
[21:16] <lorddoskias1> explosive: any ideas?
[21:16] <Guest21456> :(
[21:16] <lestus> o/
[21:16] <lordcirth> Guest21456, hi
[21:16] <explosive> lorddoskias1: nope
[21:16] <lorddoskias1> huhz, rather strange indeed
[21:16] <Guest21456> I want to lean about Linux.
[21:16] <lorddoskias1> maybe it depends on the way the rules are executed
[21:16] <explosive> lorddoskias1: try giving it the full path to the bin
[21:17] <lorddoskias1> i have already given it the full path to the bin
[21:17] <explosive> sudo /usr/bin/qemu....
[21:17] <Guest21456> Buy, I don't know how to do it.
[21:17] <explosive> lorddoskias1: no i mean in the actual command
[21:17] <lorddoskias1> i see
[21:17] <Bashing-om> !manual | Guest21456
[21:17] <lordcirth> Guest21456, I have a link for that, 1 sec
[21:17] <lordcirth> Or that
[21:17] <lorddoskias1> explosive: it worked
[21:18] <explosive> cool (kind of odd though)
[21:18] <lorddoskias1> thanks, but now it works even without the full path
[21:18] <xploshioon> hello, is there anyone that can help me with this? https://gist.github.com/xploshioOn/7fcab2b1619a0c02e568047a96744bb8 is an ubuntu 14.04
[21:18] <explosive> ..plot thickens
[21:18] <Guest21456> :) Bashing-om I have other problem too. I don't know very much English Language.
[21:18] <lorddoskias1> explosive: maybe something got updated by a timeout
[21:19] <Guest21456> I only know Spanish. I'm studying English.
[21:19] <Bashing-om> Guest21456: Just ask .. If I canot understand .. we can direct you to a channel in your native language .
[21:19] <bekks> xploshioon: install the missing libpulse.so.0 library.
[21:20] <explosive> lorddoskias1: maybe
[21:20] <lordcirth> bekks, he appears to have it, that's the question
[21:20] <Anthaas> lordcirth, One of the main contributors to Sublime Text is helping too - he has directed me to the network settings for the package that is failing - there are no proxies set....
[21:20] <lordcirth> xploshioon, perhaps you need the 32bit libpulse?
[21:20] <Anthaas> So where on earth is its attempt at using an old proxy coming from...
[21:21] <bekks> lordcirth: He has a 64bit version of the library.
[21:21] <xploshioon> I installed it and its there but in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/, not in the /usr/lib/
[21:21] <xploshioon> with ldd `which pulseaudio`
[21:21] <lordcirth> xploshioon, you installed it through APT?
[21:22] <bekks> xploshioon: so you installed the 64bit version. What are the requirements of that "Velneo Server"?
[21:22] <xploshioon> its here libpulse.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0 (0x00007f2304630000)
[21:22] <xploshioon> yes, with apt-get install...
[21:22] <Anthaas> lordcirth, think I have found the problem.
[21:22] <Anthaas> lordcirth, My network proxies are environment variables, ST3 is picking these up at start, and won't remove them unless I remove them from data in python environment.
[21:23] <lordcirth> Anthaas, your proxies are in bash environment variables?
[21:23] <Anthaas> lordcirth, Not by my choosing - this laptop was configured for me by a "technician".
[21:23] <Anthaas> Im a post-grad researcher - apparently we aren't allowed to do this stuff ourselves...
[21:24] <Guest21456> I need a friend native from U.S for practice English Language. I'm foreing and I want to learn your language.
[21:24] <deweydb_> hi, i have some scripts that send system mail.  When i finish reading this mail, i get a message like "Saved 77 messages in mbox".  Where are these saved? when i run 'mail' again it says 'No new mail for username'.  when i look at /var/mail/username the file is there but 0 bytes. so where do these mail's get "saved" to?
[21:24] <Anthaas> lmfao
[21:24] <Anthaas> Charming
[21:24] <lordcirth> Anthaas, Ah, I see.  So, you should be able to do "env - sublime"
[21:25] <lordcirth> Or whatever the ST3 command is
[21:25] <Guest21456> Is there someone that want to be my study partner?
[21:25] <Anthaas> You want someone native from the U.S to practice English - what about English people?
[21:25] <Anthaas> lordcirth, I am not familiar with that?
[21:25] <lordcirth> Anthaas, "run the following command with fresh environment"
[21:25] <lordcirth> That may or may not clear the proxy settings
[21:25] <xploshioon> @bekks there was a lot, it gives me 6 errors untill now, I just installed the missing packages and everything worked, but with this didn't work
[21:25] <lordcirth> depending on where they are set
[21:26] <lordcirth> Otherwise, use "unset" to clear them
[21:26] <bekks> xploshioon: What are the requirements of that "Velneo Server"?
[21:26] <Anthaas> lordcirth, You mean: "env -subl" ?
[21:26] <Guest21456> :(
[21:26] <Guest21456> I only want to learn something.
[21:26] <lordcirth> Guest21456, that is offtopic here, sorry
[21:27] <lordcirth> Anthaas, no, '-' is a complete argument to 'env' in this case
[21:27] <bekks> Guest21456: This is an Ubuntu ssupport channel, maybe you can ask in #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[21:27] <Guest21456> All information about informatic is in English.
[21:28] <Anthaas> Ahh ok
[21:29] <xploshioon> @bekks this is the content of the vServer.sh https://gist.github.com/xploshioOn/7fcab2b1619a0c02e568047a96744bb8
[21:29] <bekks> xploshioon: What are the requirements of that "Velneo Server"?
[21:30] <lordcirth> xploshioon, all that does is exec the ./vServer executable
[21:30] <Anthaas> lordcirth, It works
[21:30] <lordcirth> Anthaas, awesome!
[21:31] <lordcirth> Anthaas, if you would like Sublime to launch from a desktop icon, you can probably edit the .desktop file to have the modified command.,
[21:31] <xploshioon> @bekks, I don't know, how can I know the dependencies?
[21:31] <Anthaas> lordcirth, Thanks man - Im wondering if this would have any other consequences on the running of sublime text though - Im sure not.
[21:32] <bekks> xploshioon: We are not talking about the dependencies. We are talking about the official requirements as published by the author of Velneo Server.
[21:32] <xploshioon> for the moment the error i get is this ./vServer: error while loading shared libraries: libpulse.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:32] <Anthaas> I know, for example, sublime text does need to access $PATH
[21:32] <bekks> xploshioon: If you dont know the requirements, look them up please.
[21:35] <lordcirth> Anthaas, $PATH will be correctly set, it's part of the basic stuff.  As for the rest, well, you'll find out :P But I think it will be fine.
[21:37] <HappyHobo> Who is the main op here?  I believe I spoke with them the other day considering a sound issue.
[21:38] <lordcirth> HappyHobo, does your IRC client not keep logs?
[21:38] <k1l> !logs
[21:38] <Apteryx> My screenlock settings won't stick. No matter what I do in the Unity settings. Anything I should look into?
[21:39] <lordcirth> Oh right I forgot there was official logging
[21:39] <HappyHobo> I don't remember who it was lordcirth so I don't know who to look for.  I spoke with a few people that day.  I need to apologize and get banned.
[21:39] <lordcirth> wat
[21:39] <lordcirth> HappyHobo, well, just look through the logs looking for your own name, and you'll find it
[21:39] <bekks> HappyHobo: So you can search the logs.
[21:39] <HappyHobo> Was it you lordcirth?
[21:40] <lordcirth> HappyHobo, I doubt it, as I remember nothing.
[21:40] <HappyHobo> Demmit.
[21:40] <tgm4883> one wonders why you need the "main op"
[21:40] <HappyHobo> I've been feeling guilty for days now.
[21:40] <k1l> HappyHobo: either you look into the logs the bot just linked you or you just ask your technical question :)
[21:41] <HappyHobo> I realize I will be banned and I expect that.  I respect that decision but before I do I want to apologize.
[21:42] <nacc> ... is this a guilty spamming situation? like you are going to apologize and then spam the channel, HappyHobo?
[21:43] <HappyHobo> I am running chatelOS which is xubuntu with scripts in opt that are more than tied in than I thought.  I didn't realized how much they are tied in to the other night.  Prior to this I thought it was mostly xubuntu and I should get help here.  Well it really isn't and I am very sorry.
[21:43] <nacc> HappyHobo: i don't think you'd get banned for asking a question in the wrong channel ...
[21:43] <tgm4883> HappyHobo: so you lied the other day about running Xubuntu and wasted a bunch of people's time?
[21:44] <HappyHobo> Those scripts in opt have nothing to do with audio but still chatelos is chatelos not xubuntu.
[21:44] <HappyHobo> Those scripts only affect style and theming but not audio.
[21:44] <HappyHobo> So I was kind of right but mostly wrong for my fraud.
[21:45] <HappyHobo> tgm4883:  YOU ARE HIM!  DUDE I AM SO SORRY.
[21:45] <tgm4883> HappyHobo: sounds like you were completely wrong and reinforced why the rules exist in this channel
[21:45] <HappyHobo> You can ban me now.
[21:45] <LaylaStorm> Lol
[21:46] <tgm4883> HappyHobo: I don't think it was me... and I'm not going to ban you
[21:46] <HappyHobo> I need to be banned.
[21:46] <tgm4883> HappyHobo: why?
[21:46] <LaylaStorm> XD
[21:46] <k1l> HappyHobo: ok, thanks  for apologizing. now please lets focus on ubuntu support again in here.
[21:47] <HappyHobo> If not I'll just sit here and glean without asking another question.  I feel guilty though.
[21:47] <HappyHobo> I need revolution.
[21:47] <LaylaStorm> LOL
[21:47] <LaylaStorm> This guy is hilarious..
[21:48] <HappyHobo> absolution?
[21:50] <HappyHobo> I can help with so much though.  I have a lot of knowledge I gleaned from my 13 years of experienced.
[21:51] <bazhang> HappyHobo, please stop the chit chat here
[21:51] <bazhang> HappyHobo, this is ubuntu support only not chat
[21:51] <HappyHobo> You're not he bazhang.  Sorry ma'am.
[21:53] <HappyHobo> bazhang:  I'm trying to apologize and offer my support at the same time.  This is not chit chat or chat chit.
[21:53] <tgm4883> HappyHobo: ok, enough chat then. As retribution for your past deception, you've got to stay in here and assist users with questions they have
[21:53] <blinkyb> guys i have problem installing Budgie http://pastebin.com/JbXawrSh i get this, i''ve tried everything but no luch
[21:54] <k1l> blinkyb: sudo apt install budgie-core
[21:56] <HappyHobo> sudo apt install aptitude first which would seem to be the better choice in resolving this problem then sudo aptitude install budgie-core just saying
[21:57] <blinkyb> k1l: "The Following Packages have unmet dependencies" "Unable to correct problems, you have broken packages"
[21:57] <bekks> HappyHobo: Why would aptitude resolve problems "better"?
[21:57] <nacc> hrm, why would one want to run packages from a PPA that announces it is deprecated?
[21:57] <bekks> HappyHobo: The way to go nowadays is "apt".
[21:57] <k1l> blinkyb: please put all the outpu into a pastebin
[21:57] <blinkyb> k1l: budgie-core : Depends : libmutter0g
[21:57] <blinkyb> ok
[21:57] <HappyHobo> It breaks loops and dependency issues better in my opinion still.
[21:58] <bekks> HappyHobo: Better than apt? Did you try?
[21:58] <HappyHobo> I have using ubuntu mate trying to get icewm
[21:58] <blinkyb> k1l: http://pastebin.com/A3yvBp44
[21:59] <bekks> HappyHobo: Did you compare apt and aptitude?
[21:59] <nacc> blinkyb: why are you using that ppa rather than https://launchpad.net/~budgie-remix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ?
[21:59] <blinkyb> nacc: i am completely new to this, dont know really
[21:59] <nacc> blinkyb: i only ask because the ppa you are using explicitly says to use the other one...
[21:59] <nacc> https://launchpad.net/~fossfreedom/+archive/ubuntu/budgie-desktop
[21:59] <nacc> not sure why you wouldn't follow their advice :)
[21:59] <nacc> blinkyb: ok, i'd try with the recommended path, if nothing else
[21:59] <blinkyb> nacc: so which sudo should i use?
[22:00] <HappyHobo> I was trapped in a loop.  It showed 3 dependencies using apt and it showed when I tried to installed this dependency it said it couldn't because of the other dependency then tried that one it said the one before back and forth until I tried aptitude which just fixed it.
[22:00] <nailsom> Boa noite
[22:00] <bekks> HappyHobo: Did you compare apt and aptitude?
[22:00] <HappyHobo> Yes bekks
[22:00] <nacc> blinkyb: since you tried to use the deprecated PPA to start, follow the instructions at https://launchpad.net/~fossfreedom/+archive/ubuntu/budgie-desktop
[22:01] <nacc> blinkyb: under 'PPA description'
[22:01] <HappyHobo> the two are so similar but they aren't.
[22:01] <nailsom> alguem conhece o Droidcam?
[22:01] <nacc> blinkyb: you'll need to add the newer ppa and purge the old ppa
[22:01] <nacc> blinkyb: i'm not saying this because i know it will work, though, i'm saying what the relevant maintainers are recommending on their page
[22:02] <HappyHobo> I've dreamed of a day when aptitude was installed by default and there was a gui to use it.
[22:02] <k1l> !br | nailsom
[22:02] <bekks> HappyHobo: And you are not mixing up apt-get and apt, are you?
[22:02] <HappyHobo> I don't believe so bekks.
[22:02] <HappyHobo> Aren't apt and apt-get the same thing?\
[22:03] <tgm4883> If they were the same thing, we wouldn't call them different things...
[22:03] <lordcirth> HappyHobo, no, they are different programs which do the same things
[22:03] <lordcirth> In slightly different ways
[22:04] <lordcirth> 'apt' being the most recent
[22:04] <HappyHobo> Good googa mooga.  I'm sorry.  I thought apt and apt-get were the same thing.  I thought the only alternative being aptitude.
[22:04]  * HappyHobo has egg on his face.
[22:05] <lordcirth> And, the package management system, in general, is called "APT".  Confusing, I know.
[22:06] <blinkyb> nacc: same error
[22:06] <HappyHobo> apt, apt-get, aptitude all install but each does it in its own way all resolving dependencies and such in a unique way
[22:06] <HappyHobo> Is there another?
[22:07]  * stormchaser3000 just figured out why he can't use his nvidia graphics card :(
[22:07] <lordcirth> HappyHobo, well, dpkg is a basic tool for installing individual packages.  then there are the gui tools, some of which use aptitude or dpkg under the hood.
[22:07] <lordcirth> stormchaser3000, why's that?
[22:07] <stormchaser3000> i have to have windows installed to switch from my intel graphics card to my nvidia graphics card as it is not possible to switch them through the bios menu
[22:07] <stormchaser3000> >:(
[22:07] <tgm4883> lordcirth: wouldn't that be dpkg no APT?
[22:08] <HappyHobo> So no one uses aptitude anymore?
[22:08]  * HappyHobo is feeling old and odd.
[22:09] <bekks> HappyHobo: Basically, thats correct. :)
[22:09] <lestus> HappyHobo: same..
[22:09] <lestus> HappyHobo: wouldn't happen to be your birthday?
[22:10] <lordcirth> tgm4883, as I understood it, APT is the standard, which dpkg implements?
[22:10] <HappyHobo> Nope, still feeling old.
[22:10] <lestus> HappyHobo: whic of the three do you prefer
[22:10] <HappyHobo> dpkg-reconfigure things fixes things like say you have gdm and lightdm and you watch to switch
[22:10] <hggdh> lestus, HappyHobo: please stop with the non-support chat in this channel. User -offtopic, or -discuss for that
[22:11] <HappyHobo> want to switch
[22:11] <nacc> lordcirth: .deb is the standard, dpkg knows how to install them; apt is a management interfaace over dpkg
[22:11] <lestus> hggdh: already did
[22:11] <HappyHobo> I still prefer aptitude even though it is cli.
[22:11] <HappyHobo> hggdh:  I am on topic.
[22:12] <hggdh> HappyHobo: no, you are not. You are giving out an opinion. You are actually repeating the same opinion again and again. Please stop.
[22:13] <HappyHobo> I thought I was. sorry hggdh
[22:13] <lordcirth> #ubuntu channel is unusually specific, being focused only on support, where most distro channels allow most distro-related chat.  Presumably because Ubuntu has so much more traffic.
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> lordcirth  we have -offtopic for that
[22:14] <lestus> lordcirth: yea that's certainly unusual, they forgot the 'community' element of support?
[22:14] <HappyHobo> I'll listen
[22:14] <tgm4883> lestus: with ~2000 users in the channel, chat can be very disruptive
[22:14] <blinkyb> nacc: now what?
[22:14] <lestus> indeed, topic closed
[22:15] <nacc> blinkyb: now what? you follow the instructions at the ppa through the ppa-purge? Try `apt install budgie-desktop` i think
[22:15] <nacc> blinkyb: it should use the one from budgie-remix
[22:17] <blinkyb> nacc: 'Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[22:17] <nacc> blinkyb: sudo, of course, sorry
[22:17] <blinkyb> nacc: 'is another process using it?'
[22:17] <nacc> blinkyb: follow theinstructions on the ppa, that is listed there
[22:22] <xangua> blinkyb: did you already contact the repository maintainer?
[22:22] <blinkyb> nacc: done exactly whats there, same issue
[22:22] <blinkyb> xangua: no, just came from outside
[22:22] <nacc> blinkyb: pastebin the output from all 4 commands
[22:23] <feve> fun this project
[22:23] <Atlantic777> Hi! I need help configuring xdg-open. I use a tool which is opening .dot files with xdg-open. Currently it opens libreoffice. I want to use some other tool, gv in example.
[22:24] <nacc> blinkyb: fwiw, i just spun up a container with stock 16.04 and it worked fine to go through those steps to install 'budgie-desktop'. Are you on 16.04?
[22:24] <blinkyb> nacc: yes
[22:26] <squinty> Atlantic777,  file manager -> right click on file name -> open with maybe?
[22:26] <HappyHobo> is Emmabuntus supported?
[22:26] <blinkyb> nacc: http://pastebin.com/08fGD4Bd
[22:26] <NightSmoke101> hello
[22:26] <NightSmoke101> i'm back :D
[22:27] <NightSmoke101> if someone cares ^^'
[22:27] <nacc> blinkyb: hrm, you are using a lot of PPAs. Ok, now that you've purged the fossfreedom PPA, can you pastebin the output of `apt update; apt install budgie-desktop` ?
[22:28] <VlinkZ3> Hello?
[22:28] <reisio> VlinkZ3: hi?
[22:28] <OerHeks> blinkyb, your issue is evolve-os ppa
[22:28] <blinkyb> nacc: sure
[22:28] <k1l> !flavors | HappyHobo
[22:29] <HappyHobo> Thanks
[22:29] <Atlantic777> squinty: my application isn't listed.
[22:29] <NightSmoke101> hello everyone
[22:29] <NightSmoke101> is anyone here ?
[22:30] <Atlantic777> squinty: btw, I don't use unity (just i3 wm). I hope that this solution would work without nautilus and unity, too.
[22:30] <blinkyb> nacc: http://pastebin.com/Jx9GzuaV
[22:30] <reisio> NightSmoke101: nope, just you; lonely, what what?
[22:31] <NightSmoke101> yes lonely LOl :D
[22:31] <squinty> Atlantic777,  you can migrate to where the app is installed and add it from there.  OK, I don't use i3 wm so maybe someone else will chime in.
[22:31] <nacc> blinkyb: it would seem that the ppa in question is still installed. Can you try running the ppa-purge again?
[22:31] <nacc> blinkyb: just as an FYI, mixing PPAs like this is not generally supported here ... nor are PPAs really. You should contact the PPA owner if you want to use a PPA's packages and have issues.
[22:32] <mustmodify__> reading the logs for du, it seems like there is basically no way to know which units are being shown.
[22:32] <Atlantic777> squinty: i3 wm shouldn't be problem as long as we find solution which works for xdg-open. :) Btw, if by migration you meen that I can navigate to /usr/bin/ I may be tired, but I don't see how. :D
[22:32] <mustmodify__> Can I force it to be mb or something?
[22:32] <OerHeks> blinkyb, you added https://launchpad.net/~evolve-os/+archive/ubuntu/ppa but that one was for older budgie stuff , remove it from softwaresources
[22:33] <k1l> mustmodify: use the -h
[22:33] <mustmodify> k1l: nice thanks
[22:33] <mustmodify> don't know why I couldn't find that in the man page.
[22:33] <squinty> Atlantic777,  ok,,, using nautilus here which may have different options than the file manager you are currently using.
[22:34] <blinkyb> nacc: Didnt work
[22:34] <blinkyb> OerHeks: how can i remove it?
[22:37] <Atlantic777> squinty: I started nautilus. Here's what I see. Btw, I'm still on the 14.04. http://imgur.com/PHzyG09
[22:41] <squinty> Atlantic777,  maybe try   nautilus -> file name -> properties -> open with  and see if your perfered app is listed there
[22:42] <Atlantic777> squinty: installing xdot + login/logout fixed the problem. Thank you kindly anyway! :)
[22:43] <squinty> Atlantic777,  good to hear :-)
[22:46] <sulfasal> need a calculator to convert hex, dec, bin back and forth including signed numbers. What should I use?
[22:48] <lordcirth> sulfasal, The default Ubuntu calculator, switch to Programming mode
[22:48] <OerHeks> sulfasal, standard calculator is just fine, see  programming or advanced
[22:50] <waterdrop> Hi, I'm on ubuntu 12.04, and whenever I try to install a package I get the following errors - http://paste.ubuntu.com/17103574/
[22:50] <waterdrop> Anyone know a fix?
[22:51] <lordcirth> waterdrop, something in /etc/sources.list or .d is corrupted
[22:51] <sulfasal> started calculator from menu but nothing about switching modes can I see
[22:52] <sulfasal> Says calculator across the top only words on the thing
[22:52] <squinty> waterdrop,  iirc the medibuntu is dead
[22:52] <lordcirth> sulfasal, it's in the titlebar, which in Ubuntu Unity will be at the top of the desktop
[22:52] <k1l> waterdrop: remove the medibuntu repo, its dead since some time
[22:52] <OerHeks> waterdrop  remove medibuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[22:53] <waterdrop> okay thanks
[22:54] <sulfasal> lordcirth: thanks, not used to this unity thing yet
[22:54] <lordcirth> sulfasal, yeah it's pretty different
[22:57] <mustmodify> ok this is craziness.
[22:57] <mustmodify> ls /var/log/nginx shows many logfiles, most of which have .gz extensions.
[22:57] <mustmodify> sorry, sudo ls /var/log/nginx
[22:57] <mustmodify> but sudo ls /var/log/nginx/*.gz says "no such file or directory"
[22:58] <mustmodify> as does sudo ls /var/log/nginx/*
[22:58] <mustmodify> ???
[22:58] <lordcirth> mustmodify, iirc, globbing is done by bash, which in this case is running as you, and passing the expansion to 'sudo ls'
[22:58] <OerHeks> ls -la /var/log/nginx/
[22:59] <mustmodify> Hunh.
[22:59] <tgm4883> lordcirth: +1
[22:59] <lordcirth> mustmodify, try "sudo -s" then " ls /var/log/nginx/* "
[22:59] <lordcirth> Just remember to exit the root shell when you are done.
[23:00] <mustmodify> yeah, that's what I just did.
[23:00] <mustmodify> lordcirth: good thinking.
[23:00] <squinty> sulfasal,  fwiw... system settings -> apperance -> behaviour -> show the menu for a window -> in the windows title bar  (if you prefer the menu to be display per window rather than in the top panel)
[23:01] <lordcirth> mustmodify, thanks.  It's a fun one, eh?
[23:03] <pascal> hi, here is my screenshot of gnome 3 http://imgur.com/nq5Rtg9 as you can see I'm a fan of irssi IRC client :)
[23:04] <reisio> he says, from an IRC client other than irssi :p
[23:05] <lordcirth> pascal, either you posted the wrong link or you're trolling
[23:05] <Conna> halo
[23:06] <lordcirth> Conna, hello
[23:13] <toc> Hello, I have this problem and I can not find decent fix. (1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/0' failed in libnm-glib
[23:13] <toc>  I am using Mobile Broadband
[23:13] <Conna> give we screen shot for help you bro
[23:14] <toc> I have two laptops and on both of them I have this same problem
[23:14] <toc> (1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/0' failed in libnm-glib.
[23:14] <toc> This is what the error says all the time
[23:15] <toc> Conna, after restart it works, but if it disconnects for no apparent reason, I need to unplug modem, and restart laptop to make it work again
[23:16] <toc> and also if I try to edit connection it gives me this error : settings/nm-settings-connection.c.955 - Connection didn't have requested setting 'ppp'.
[23:16] <toc> I have tried to find answer online but haven't found one that would work
[23:17] <toc> Same problem on ubuntu and lubuntu
[23:17] <toc> Anybody could help ? :(
[23:18] <toc> very annoying problem :(
[23:18] <lordcirth> toc, where exactly does this error print?
[23:19] <lordcirth> toc, could it be this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1438003
[23:28] <abhishek> hi guys!
[23:28] <abhishek> I was getting some errors on boot
[23:29] <abhishek> checking the log file: abhishek log $ ls -lh syslog -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 5.3G Jun  8 04:57 syslog
[23:29] <abhishek> Is this normal for log to be so huge?
[23:29] <lordcirth> abhishek, that is pretty big.
[23:29] <reisio> not really, not unless it's from 20 years back
[23:29] <reisio> your logging level is probably absurd and/or something is erroring out 24/7
[23:29] <lordcirth> Doesn't Ubuntu have logrotate by default?
[23:30]  * reisio shrugs
[23:30] <reisio> you know about logrotate, so it doesn't really matter if it has it by default
[23:30] <reisio> rotation isn't deletion, anyway
[23:30] <abhishek> lordcirth, Not that I aware of. I am using kubuntu 16.04
[23:30] <lordcirth> Yes but it would be a separate file.
[23:30] <lordcirth> abhishek, well, use tail and find out what's spamming it
[23:31] <abhishek> lordcirth, it taking too long for tail.
[23:31] <lordcirth> heh
[23:31] <abhishek> it=it's
[23:31] <lordcirth> Yeah, it will have to read 5.3GB off the disk, I guess.  There should be a tool that skips that
[23:32] <abhishek> lordcirth, you know any?
[23:32] <lordcirth> It will do it, though, and 5.3GB shouldn't take more than a few minutes
[23:32] <lordcirth> I do not
[23:33] <abhishek> should I remove the logfile and rerun to check errors?
[23:33] <abhishek> rerun-reboot
[23:33] <reisio> removing or moving the log file would fix the space issue
[23:33] <lordcirth> abhishek, I would move it, instead
[23:33] <reisio> you'll have to investigate to know why it's so large
[23:33] <reisio> to prevent it in future
[23:33] <lordcirth> move to syslog.old
[23:33] <lordcirth> Moves, thankfully, are instant
[23:34] <Kimish> Hi there i need help i have lubuntu 15,04 and i cant login am stuck in a login loop Please help
[23:34] <abhishek> syslog records the log at the boot and shutdown only or through when the system is running.?
[23:35] <Kimish> Help please !!!!!!
[23:35] <lordcirth> Kimish, when you try to log in, what happens?  It just drops you back to a log in screen?
[23:36] <lordcirth> abhishek, syslog generally records constantly
[23:36] <Kimish> Lordcirth : exactly
[23:36] <lordcirth> Kimish, hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 and login
[23:37] <lordcirth> Then read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out what broke
[23:37] <Kimish> Lordcirth: done !
[23:37] <lordcirth> Kimish, are you reading the log?
[23:39] <Kimish> What log am in a shell now am loged from shell i want to login to desktop
[23:39] <abhishek> lordcirth, I cleaned and check again. This is what I got https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428/comments/10
[23:39] <Kimish> Lordcirth; ??
[23:39] <lordcirth> Kimish, read your X log with: " less /var/log/Xorg.0.log "
[23:39] <lordcirth> Kimish, so you know what broke, and you can fix it
[23:40] <Kimish> Ok
[23:41] <lordcirth> Kimish, look for the last error (EE), generally
[23:43] <abhishek> any ideas on the issue?
[23:43] <lordcirth> abhishek, doesn't look good.  Sounds like a PCI device is misbehaving, repeatedly
[23:46] <lordcirth> abhishek, looking at the bug, did the pci=nomsi workaround prevent the log spam?
[23:47] <Kimish> Lordcirth : yes there are so many errors infront of (EE)
[23:47] <abhishek> lordcirth, what does that do? Does it just tell the kernel to stop logging?
[23:48] <lordcirth> abhishek, I have no idea, I just saw it on the bug report.
[23:48] <lordcirth> Kimish, pastebin the log file for us.
[23:49] <dtech12> Hey
[23:49] <lordcirth> dtech12, hello
[23:50] <Kimish> First error is " failed to load module "nvidia" ( module does not exist,0)
[23:50] <Kimish> Lordcirth its too long and am in my phone now
[23:50] <abhishek> lordcirth, the guy in the bug report told me to remove it. Though it fixed the issue. I think it just stops logging. I rather fix the issue.
[23:51] <lordcirth> Kimish, the computer with the error doesn't have internet?
[23:51] <Kimish> Yes it doesnt
[23:52] <lordcirth> Kimish, ok.  Well, look for the last error, since that is generally the one that caused the crash.
[23:53] <Kimish> Lordcirth ; have u seen the first error it has smt to do dith nvidia ???
[23:54] <lordcirth> Kimish, yeah, it didn't find the nvidia proprietary driver, so it goes on to the next one, as normal.
[23:56] <abhishek> what is ideally I should do in this situation?
[23:56] <abhishek> Is it related to kernel, should I ask there?
[23:57] <lordcirth> abhishek, the  bug thread you already have is probably the best way.
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