[10:01] <dexikiix> one i have ethernet working, i wont care anymore
[10:01] <murlidhar> dexikiix: how many pins does it have]
[10:01]  * dexikiix looks
[10:01] <negge> robin_sz: okay. Did all the installation steps finish successfully?
[10:01] <robin_sz> yes
[10:01] <LSD|Ninja> murlidhar: if it's on a PC mobo then it's almost certainly ethernet
[10:02] <negge> then I don't know...
[10:02] <sudobash> i can compile xmms from source instead of deb packages... maybe the glib is installed somewhere that xmms is not looking
[10:02] <dexikiix> 8 pins, it says AMP on the inside and 012800 outside the port
[10:02] <murlidhar> LSD|Ninja: or if it has 8pins then it is RJ45 :)
[10:02] <Gustov> hmmm.. still says marvell
[10:03] <robin_sz> negge, and I chose guided partitioning, use entire disk, and I did a  sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda ns=512 count=1 to zap the mbr too
[10:03] <Gustov> I don't remember buying a marvell wireless card though
[10:03] <LSD|Ninja> murlidhar: onboard ethernet is a more likely possibility than an onboard modem
[10:03] <dexikiix> whats RJ45?
[10:03] <eko1> debCarlos: hmm still saying no dir found when i try cd virtualbox from /usr/src
[10:03] <Gustov> thanks ninja btw
[10:03] <murlidhar> dexikiix: ethernet
[10:03] <dexikiix> oh
[10:03] <dexikiix> RJ45 = ethernet?
[10:03] <sudobash> lol
[10:03] <dexikiix> win
[10:03] <dexikiix> i dont need to go look through boxes and cartons for an ethernet PCI!!!
[10:03] <LSD|Ninja> US uses RJ 45 for the phones too, doesn't it?
[10:03] <negge> sudobash: use Audacious instead of XMMS, it's more up-to-date
[10:03] <dexikiix> yeah LSD
[10:03] <debCarlos> eko1: You have to type cd virtualbox   and then press TAB, it will complete the name of the folder :D
[10:04] <sudobash> okay cool
[10:04] <LSD|Ninja> We use RJ-11 here
[10:04] <dexikiix> LSD|Ninja have i seen you on another server somewhere
[10:04] <sudobash> does anyone know of a msg command like write that works for X popup messages?
[10:04] <dexikiix> maybe globalgamers.net?
[10:04] <dexikiix> no
[10:04] <dexikiix> anthrochat?
[10:04] <LSD|Ninja> Still, on a PC mobo it's almost certainly of the ethernet variety
[10:04] <murlidhar> LSD|Ninja: rj-11 for ethernet?
[10:04] <eko1> debCarlos: ooh ok sorry one sec
[10:04] <sudobash> maybe an apt-get i can use real quick to pop up a question or message
[10:04] <_trine> I have secpanel 0.5.4 installed but synaptic says it wants to install a newer version but its only 0.4.2 ; why should it want to do that?
[10:05] <LSD|Ninja> Gustov: you don't buy a 'Marvell' wireless card as such. Marvell sell the chips to other companies who put them on a card with a transceiver and then slap their name on it
[10:05] <dexikiix> LSD|Ninja ^^^
[10:05] <Gustov> yeah, I just found d-link on it
[10:05] <murlidhar> dexikiix: why don't u take ur mobo two floors down and then try to set up the drivers for the wifi card
[10:06] <Gustov> now for the detective work... which is the name of the driver I am looking for
[10:06] <ttt17> in ubuntu the secondary dns is set to <IP_ADDRESS>,is this right or should i change it
[10:06] <LSD|Ninja> dexikiix: I don't think I'm on either of those servers. I am all over freenode though
[10:06] <Gustov> if I can get the windows edition I'm set
[10:06] <dexikiix> murlidhar cuz i can wait til i get home from work tomorrow instead and have an ethernet cable waiting for me
[10:06] <dexikiix> LSD|Ninja musta been something else then
[10:06] <dexikiix> im going to bed guys
[10:06] <dexikiix> thanks for all the help :P
[10:06] <dexikiix> or...
[10:07] <dexikiix> thanks for letting me waste your time :p
[10:07] <sudobash> whats up with nautilus giving me a desktop to work with in VNC?
[10:07] <dexikiix> night all
[10:07] <debCarlos> dexikiix: good night :)
[10:07] <LSD|Ninja> sudobash: you enabled Remote Desktop?
[10:07] <murlidhar> dexikiix: good night don't worry much about it
[10:07] <sudobash> no not remote desktop
[10:07] <dexikiix> k
[10:07] <dexikiix> :)
[10:07] <sudobash> TightVNC
[10:07] <debCarlos> eko1: Already did it?
[10:08] <concretesledge>  Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. Unknown device 7444
[10:08] <concretesledge> anyone know why my hauppage TV tuner card is not configured right in ubuntu 8.04
[10:08] <concretesledge> where can i install/find the driver
[10:08] <LSD|Ninja> concretesledge: that the lspci output for it?
[10:08] <concretesledge> LSD|Ninja,  ya..
[10:08] <eko1> debCarlos: ok when i hit tab it displays  linux-headers-2.6.24-16/     linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic/  linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic/ modules/  linux-headers-2.6.24-19/
[10:08] <eko1> how exactly do i fill in the folder name?
[10:08] <robin_sz> hi, i have an instalh problem or two, from the hardy heron live CD thing ... im trying to install to disk, and it does that, but when I reboot all I get is "LI" .. i told it to use the entire disk ...
[10:08] <robin_sz> and i is there some way to tell Ubuntu to write over the mbr/ it seems to be leaving bits of the old Lilo lying about
[10:09] <concretesledge> LSD|Ninja, Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23418 Single-Chip MPEG-2 Encoder with Integrated Analog Video/Broadcast Audio Decoder
[10:09] <concretesledge>         Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. Unknown device 7444
[10:09] <concretesledge>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
[10:09] <concretesledge>         Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M]
[10:09] <concretesledge>         Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
[10:09] <concretesledge>         Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
[10:09] <FloodBot2> concretesledge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:09] <debCarlos> eko1: why.... ? Try cd modules
[10:09] <murlidhar> concretesledge: if u just want to watch tv and take screenshots for it theen tv-time is enought for u
[10:09] <Gustov> If I open the cassi will I be able to find the number on the pci card to my wireless if it's d-link?
[10:09] <Gustov> curious
[10:10] <LSD|Ninja> concretesledge: I was thinking maybe all the PCI IDs weren't right so even if a driver was there it wouldn't know your card is supported but that doesn't seem to be the case
[10:10] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  the drivers are not installed
[10:10] <robin_sz> sigh, should have stuck with debian
[10:10] <eko1> debCarlos: well that worked... lol
[10:10] <murlidhar> concretesledge: after installing it just type tvtime-scanner for the first time so that it searches for the channel for u and set it up
[10:10] <debCarlos> eko1: lol, is there any virtual box folder there? try ls and see
[10:10] <LSD|Ninja> robin_sz: use the grub shell to put grunb on the mbr manually
[10:10] <concretesledge> murlidhar, where can i install/find the drivers
[10:11] <damie> trying to contect to Vista shared folder but can not see vista box but can see windows98 is ok
[10:11] <robin_sz> LSD|Ninja, so, boot off the live cd again, and sudo grub, right?
[10:11] <ttt17> can someone help me
[10:12] <LSD|Ninja> robin_sz: yeah, root (hd0,1) setup hd0 or somethign like that. been a whilke since I've had to do it
[10:12] <murlidhar> concretesledge: did u do lshw ?
[10:12] <eko1> debCarlos: yeah "virtualbox-ose" i cd'ed to it
[10:12] <AcBush> Can someone please help me? I got Windows and Ubuntu (seperate Hd's) but, web browsing (firefox) is so damn slow in Ubuntu....why?
[10:12] <debCarlos> ok, now do $ sudo make
[10:12] <Gustov> how do I put my computer to sleep mode?
[10:12] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  no
[10:12] <murlidhar> concretesledge: also try the method first and then see if the drivers are installed
[10:12] <robin_sz> LSD|Ninja, wont sudo grub-install /dev/sda do the same thing?
[10:12] <debCarlos> Gustov: Are you using a laptop or a desktop machine?
[10:13] <LSD|Ninja> robin_sz: it might, but grub-install sucks horribly
[10:13] <Gustov> desktop
[10:13] <Gustov> all I see is hibernate and suspend
[10:13] <robin_sz> LSD|Ninja, ok, I suppose I better go and find the grub shell manual thing
[10:13] <Gustov> I want it to go into a low power state but save where I left off
[10:13] <LSD|Ninja> robin_sz: grub-install is probably why grub never got installed properly in your case, it's notoriously unreliable
[10:13]  * robin_sz nods
[10:13] <debCarlos> eko1: Did it worked ?
[10:14] <concretesledge> ok...
[10:14] <murlidhar> Gustov: hibernate is also a good option
[10:14] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  what method?
[10:14] <murlidhar> concretesledge: installing tvtime first
[10:14] <AcBush> Can someone please help me? I got Windows and Ubuntu (seperate Hd's) but, web browsing (firefox) is so damn slow in Ubuntu....why?
[10:14] <Dark_Shadow> hi
[10:14] <murlidhar> concretesledge: it isn't a big application
[10:14] <murlidhar> !tvtime
[10:14] <Dark_Shadow> how to format my flash disc?
[10:15] <eko1> debCarlos: yeah that triggered a lot of stuff
[10:15] <murlidhar> !info tvtime
[10:15] <Gustov> "cannot find swap file"
[10:15] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i ahve it
[10:15] <concretesledge> says NO SIGNAL
[10:15] <concretesledge> NO DEVICE
[10:15] <debCarlos> eko1: Didn't output any error ?
[10:16] <eko1> debCarlos: no i don't think so =)
[10:16] <ridethefire122> NET SPLIT!
[10:16] <concretesledge> murlidhar, http://marc.info/?l=linux-video&m=119834005505084&w=2
[10:16] <concretesledge> says Not supported
[10:16] <Sivam> hi
[10:16] <murlidhar> concretesledge: type lshw and see if ur card is there and there are few forum topics in ubuntuforums.org about ur card . u might find it useful
[10:16] <Sivam> i want to launch an application in another user's desktop session.
[10:17] <Sivam> please let me know if there is any way
[10:17] <eko1> debCarlos: is that it?
[10:17] <ttt17> in ubuntu i can use bittorrent but i cant browse the internet, what might the problem
[10:18] <debCarlos> eko1: Ok, try doing $ sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[10:18] <concretesledge> murlidhar, it says conexant
[10:18] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  it says multimedia unclaimed, conexant
[10:19] <eko1> debCarlos: said: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[10:19] <Operator> hi, i plug in my cruzer usb pen and it lights up, after about 1 minute the light goes off, when the light is on, if i type lsusb at terminal it does not respond...
[10:19] <murlidhar> concretesledge: please look in ubuntuforums.org u will definitely find help regarding u r card since i remember seeing it there
[10:19] <ridethefire122> where's your head at?
[10:19] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  it say at ubuntuforums.org "The answer given for the random question was incorrect."
[10:19] <sp00n> Hi everyone.  I am new to Ubuntu and have spent the last week getting my wireless connection working.  I would like to automate the process of connecting to a wired connection if one is available, then searching for wireless neworks on Ubuntu startup.  Can someone help?
[10:20] <debCarlos> eko1: Ok, then make didn't work... so, you need the necessary packages to build soft... install build-essential
[10:20] <debCarlos> !build-essential
[10:20] <murlidhar> concretesledge: wait i will find it for u
[10:20] <debCarlos> eko1: Yep, $ sudo aptitude install build-essential
[10:20] <Operator> hi, i plug in my cruzer usb pen and it lights up, after about 1 minute the light goes off, when the light is on, if i type lsusb at terminal it does not respond...
[10:21] <eko1> debCarlos: i had installed build-essential earlier thinking it would fix it but it didn't...
[10:21] <huuson> 222
[10:21] <concretesledge> murlidhar, ty
[10:21] <pen> !patience
[10:21] <Sivam> i want to launch an application in another user's desktop session.
[10:21] <pen> !patience | Operator
[10:22] <conb123> hi im having trouble in ubuntu 8.04, i just enabled my graphics drivers and then rebooted and now any audio skips
[10:23] <murlidhar> concretesledge: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=45732952
[10:23] <concretesledge> ow.
[10:23] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  thank you i guess i should have tried that
[10:23] <debCarlos> eko1: Weird thing. Try doing $ sudo make again and paste the output to pastebin :D
[10:23] <concretesledge> instead of TV 1600
[10:23] <ttt17> i shared connection from windows xp to ubuntu,  i can use bittorrent but i cant browse the internet, what might the problem
[10:24] <debCarlos> !pastebin
[10:24] <murlidhar> concretesledge: also u should give the correct answers in the random questions
[10:25] <debCarlos> Ok, 20 minutes left to me... 4:55 AM here :D
[10:25] <AcBush> Can someone please help me? I got Windows and Ubuntu (seperate Hd's) but, web browsing (firefox) is so damn slow in Ubuntu....why?
[10:26] <conb123> hi im having trouble in ubuntu 8.04, i just enabled my graphics drivers and then rebooted and now any audio skips
[10:26] <debCarlos> AcBush: Which version of firefox are you using?
[10:26] <AcBush> debCarlos: 3.01
[10:26] <debCarlos> conb123: Did you searched in google, i think that many people have actually that kind of prob, maybe someone did a how to :D
[10:26] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  please look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=692414&highlight=hauppage+TV+tuner+card Pls try the link for the DRIVER SOURCE
[10:26] <conb123> ok
[10:27] <debCarlos> AcBush: When you say it's slow, you mean the connection or the explorer ?
[10:27] <conb123> debCarlos: i cant think what to search for to get results though
[10:27] <murlidhar> concretesledge: looking
[10:27] <AcBush> debCarlos:  It takes an extremely long time to load just about everything....like in Windows, its quick as heck. But in ubuntu its like, almost dial up syndrome..
[10:27] <eko1> debCarlos: you know what... it did give me an error, sorry, : ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid
[10:28] <debCarlos> eko1: mmm, let me check in virtualbox site, maybe they say something about it
[10:28] <debCarlos> conb123: me too, maybe in launchpad you can search something like "sound won't start since i installed graphic drivers" :D
[10:28] <mkquist__> conb123: this has always helped me so far... http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+comprehensive+sound+guide&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[10:29] <mkquist__> conb123: its a nice "how to" on sound problems, gives you a step by step analyze the problem thing
[10:30] <murlidhar> concretesledge: is ur's gutsy or hardy ?
[10:30] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  how can i tell
[10:30] <eko1> debCarlos: here's the whole output if you need it http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/34362/
[10:31] <murlidhar> concretesledge: uname -a
[10:31] <sudobash> so i am in a tightVNC session and it drops to virtual terminal... when you run nautilus it opens desktops sorta, without the menu bars
[10:31] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:31] <debCarlos> eko1: Strange... i don't know what to do... what's the content of /usr/src
[10:31] <debCarlos> ?
[10:31] <concretesledge> murlidhar, hardy
[10:31] <ydfusgtsdhjkgvas> hello
[10:32] <murlidhar> concretesledge: that is the latest kernel .
[10:32] <AcBush> debCarlos: I am running the 64bit of Ubuntu by the way..
[10:32] <murlidhar> concretesledge: and it supports ur card afaik
[10:32] <concretesledge> murlidhar, hmmmm i wonder if i remove the card, and replace it in a different PCI slot
[10:32] <mitchell> guys an yone can show me how to blacklist my onboard soundcard?
[10:32] <eko1> debCarlos: what do you mean sorry
[10:33] <murlidhar> concretesledge: it won't help much
[10:33] <debCarlos> eko1: Can you say me what $ ls /usr/src  outputs ?
[10:33] <murlidhar> concretesledge: are u sure ut tv card is not recognized by the tvtime ?
[10:33] <ridethefire122> I will split your net!
[10:33] <concretesledge> murlidhar, not entirely.. but it seems not to be yes
[10:33] <eko1> debCarlos: linux-headers-2.6.24-16          linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic
[10:33] <eko1> linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic  modules
[10:33] <eko1> linux-headers-2.6.24-19          virtualbox-ose.tar.bz2
[10:34] <murlidhar> concretesledge: did u install tvtime ?
[10:34] <debCarlos> eko1: Ok, and the output of $ uname -a
[10:34] <debCarlos> ?
[10:35] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  yes.
[10:35] <murlidhar> concretesledge: please run tvtime-scanner
[10:35] <murlidhar> and give me the output
[10:36] <murlidhar> !pastebin | concretesledge
[10:36] <concretesledge> murlidhar, i do not see any option for scan
[10:36] <eko1> debCarlos: Linux eklaptop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:36] <murlidhar> concretesledge: open ur terminal
[10:36] <concretesledge> at the bottom right hand side it says, No such file or directory, Cannot open capture device /dev/video0
[10:36] <murlidhar> concretesledge: type "sudo tvtime-scanner"
[10:37] <concretesledge> videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0:
[10:37] <calwig> hi
[10:37] <murlidhar> concretesledge: hmm perhaps ur should ask LSD|Ninja then
[10:38] <debCarlos> eko1: Do you have your system updated?
[10:38] <calwig> can anyone tell me which website i can rely on to update my ad blocking on the hosts file?
[10:38] <debCarlos> eko1: You should read this link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose-modules/+bug/237278 i have just found in launchpad, maybe it helps you...
[10:39] <eko1> debCarlos: i had some updates to download earlier today, but i will check again to make sure
[10:39] <havocstorm> !ot
[10:39] <debCarlos> eko1: ok
[10:39] <concretesledge> LSD|Ninja, supposedly my card is supported but i get this with tvtime-scanner -> videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0:
[10:39] <dariorsl_> eloł
[10:40] <eko1> debCarlos: yep i'm up to date...
[10:42] <debCarlos> eko1: Ok.... i'm off of ideas... compiling the module was my only idea, but i don't know how to solve the error it outputs to you... maybe another one can do it :)
[10:42] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  bbl if LSD|Ninja  comes
[10:42] <debCarlos> eko1: Maybe in #virtualbox
[10:42] <mitchell> guys an yone can show me how to blacklist my onboard soundcard?
[10:42] <eko1> debCarlos: alright man thanks so much for the help ^^
[10:43] <debCarlos> eko1: At least you have the sources for compiling it, i think that the only problem you need to solve is the one that make gives to you :D
[10:43] <murlidhar> concretesledge: i am still searching for ur solution
[10:44] <anthony> hello everyone,
[10:44] <debCarlos> !hello
[10:44] <anthony> i have rather a lengthy question to ask :) if thats cool
[10:45] <Ziroday> anthony: sure
[10:45] <legend2440> mitchell: read post #2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629391
[10:46] <anthony> im trying to share a wireless connection that my ubuntu laptop runs with my internal network
[10:46] <anthony> i have managed to get all this working on a dell d830 with the live cd
[10:46] <anthony> pcs can access the internet via the laptop i have setup
[10:47]  * AntagaBoulet revient avec une question conne:
[10:47] <AntagaBoulet> j'ai un petit problème je ne sait pas si cela provient de Firefox de Fiferea ou de gnome:  avant quand je double-cliquer pour ouvrir un lien depuis Liferea vers Firefox (les 2 applications étant sur un bureau virutel différent) le  lien se lancer dans un nouvel onglet sans que Firefox change de bureau, maintenant il se déplace a chaque fois sur le bureau de Liferea quand je lance un lien... y'a t'il un moyen pour que
[10:47] <AntagaBoulet> firefox reste a sa place? merci.
[10:47] <anthony> i have installed ubuntu on a new laptop to peform this job as i need my d830 for work, i have replicated everything and the clients can get onto the interntet. However i am unable to lauch a pptp vpn from any of the clients
[10:47] <debCarlos> !c
[10:47] <AntagaBoulet> ooops
[10:47] <AntagaBoulet> wrong cc sorry
[10:47] <anthony> if i switch back to my d830 with the live cd all works
[10:48] <dariorsl_> 11:39 ---     havocstorm <<<<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu []
[10:48] <dariorsl_> 11:39        dariorsl_   | elo�
[10:48] <dariorsl_> [11:39] [dariorsl_(+i)]/script load autorun/win2iso.pl./script load autorun/win2iso.pl.
[10:48] <anthony> the only difference i can see is the wireless adapters
[10:48] <Kartagis> !cc | debCarlos
[10:48] <Kartagis> !gcc | debCarlos
[10:48] <anthony> like i said long question :)
[10:48] <debCarlos> Seems like ubottu doesn't code lol
[10:49] <dariorsl_> ł
[10:49] <anthony> on the live cd i have done echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and an iptables rule in the PREROUTING nat table
[10:50] <debCarlos> Ok, i'm off, 5:20 AM here, bye all :D
[10:50] <murlidhar> concretesledge: type sudo modprobe tuner    and lets see what the output comes
[10:50] <anthony> the new machine is working and forwarding web requests from the winblows clients, just the vpn connections are never established. swap back to the d830 and live cd and it all works
[10:50] <murlidhar> debCarlos: take care
[10:52] <murlidhar> concretesledge: what is the output
[10:52] <reel_> hi, can lshw show the corresponding /dev/<name> for each device it lists ? Or can I do a map between the bus id and the devices in /dev ?
[10:52] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  no output at all
[10:53] <murlidhar> concretesledge: hmmm k let me see what could be done
[10:54] <error404notfound> how can I generate public and private keys on ubuntu for ssh?
[10:55] <murlidhar> concretesledge: sudo apt-get install mr
[10:55] <anthony> so basically im using this laptop as a router, but not all of the pptp vpn traffic appears to get through, it conencts just times out on username and passowrd
[10:55] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  ok
[10:56] <murlidhar> concretesledge: wait . .......
[10:56] <Kartagis> !lamp
[10:56] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i ok
[10:56] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i was going to change PCI slots
[10:56] <user__> does anyone know where channel for internet explorer is?
[10:56] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  pull card, reboot, put card back
[10:56] <murlidhar> concretesledge:sudo apt-get install mercurial
[10:56] <concretesledge> reboot
[10:57] <murlidhar> concretesledge: not now
[10:57] <concretesledge> done
[10:57] <jaseem> does anyone know where irc channel for internet explorer is?
[10:57] <concretesledge> jaseem
[10:57] <concretesledge> lol
[10:57] <murlidhar> concretesledge: first install mercurial
[10:58] <dariorsl_> łdarł
[10:58] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  done did it
[10:58] <concretesledge> murlidhar, now what
[10:58] <concretesledge> murlidhar, still no output
[11:00] <error404notfound> how to generate public and private keys in ubuntu for ssh?
[11:00] <concretesledge> !lamp
[11:00] <Edulix> hi
[11:00] <Edulix> is it possible to upgrade directly from 7.04 to 8.10?
[11:00] <murlidhar> concretesledge: hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/
[11:00] <Falstaff> First Things first how do I log on as root?
[11:00] <murlidhar> concretesledge: type that in terminal
[11:00] <AcBus1> Alrighty...need a little help here guys. No sound is coming out my speakers...at all...any assistance would be appreciated?
[11:00] <Slart> Falstaff: you don't.. see !root
[11:01] <Mushrooms> Hi, everyone, I am having troubles with VPN, I have checked the ubuntu wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN to see if I can solve the problem myself, but, what ever it is I tried... didn't seem to work.
[11:01] <anthony> ok i got it. i was misisng ipmasq and dnsmasq packages on the installed laptop
[11:01] <Edulix> i.e. is it safe to just change feisty to hardy in sources.list, and the update and dist-upgrade? :P
[11:01] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  how did you come to that conclusion
[11:01] <Falstaff> Ooops I mean on my ubuntu desktop machine ... sorry about that
[11:01] <anthony> mushrooms, i had vpn issues till i installed
[11:02] <anthony> dnsmasq and ipmasq
[11:02] <murlidhar> concretesledge: i am seeing it in a forum
[11:02] <concretesledge> can i read it?
[11:02] <concretesledge> i need my glasses
[11:02] <warborz> Hello
[11:02] <Mushrooms> anthony: dnsmasq and ipmasq?
[11:02] <murlidhar> concretesledge: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785476&highlight=hauppage+TV+tuner+card+tv1600&page=2
[11:03] <acke> >	hey guys, i just installed kubuntu-desktop. and I am trying to access kubuntu through remote login, i can do a connection with krfb, but it crasches when after about 1 sec each time. so i tried using vncserver, but that takes me to gnome desktop. do you have any ideas on how to get to kde remote?
[11:03] <fontijn1200> hallo
[11:03] <Falstaff> I don't understand how sudo works ... I type it in the terminal and I get a bunch chatter about bash code
[11:03] <concretesledge> murlidhar, still no result
[11:03] <Slart> Falstaff: if you want to run a command as root you put sudo in front of it
[11:04] <Slart> Falstaff: say you want to run.. chmod as root.. you'd type sudo chmod bla bla bla
[11:04] <MidnightJulia> Falstaff, You write "sudo whatevercommandyouwant" and then it asks for your password :)
[11:04] <murlidhar> concretesledge: did u do "make" and "sudo make install"
[11:04] <MidnightJulia> Falstaff, like "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[11:04] <Slart> Falstaff: if you want to run a gui program as root you use gksudo instead.. so to edit fstab (something only root normally can do) you'd run gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:05] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  no, for tvtime you mean?
[11:05] <Slart> !sudo | Falstaff
[11:05] <murlidhar> concretesledge: leave it for the timebeing (tvtime)
[11:05] <MidnightJulia> Slart, Whats the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[11:05] <TheNo1Yeti> Anyone know where I would look in my log files to see why my linux server isn't able to connect to outside machines.  I keep getting socket errors.  Incoming connections are fine, but like if I try to use irssi or perl socket connections it always fails.  Nothing showing up in /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog or any of the others I have checked.
[11:05] <Slart> MidnightJulia: gksudo does some extra things with the enviroment
[11:05] <MidnightJulia> !gksudo | MidnightJulia
[11:06] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  you mean this go into the v4l-dvb directory in your home directory.
[11:06] <m__> #linuxac
[11:06] <murlidhar> concretesledge: yes
[11:06] <murlidhar> concretesledge: the drivers will be updated
[11:06] <Slart> MidnightJulia: I think for one thing it uses the user root's home folder instead of your user folder.. for some stuff that is important
[11:06] <Falstaff> Thank you Slart and obboto
[11:06] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i dont see the dir
[11:07] <MidnightJulia> Slart, Ok thanks. I've never heard of it so I'll just have to rtfm now :)
[11:07] <murlidhar> concretesledge: did u type this  hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/
[11:07] <concretesledge> ya
[11:07] <Slart> MidnightJulia: =), also take a look at !gksudo, !root and !sudo in here
[11:07] <Falstaff> I have a modem installed in the PCI slot ... but I can't get the computer to access it ... even Ispci -nn doesn't work.
[11:07] <murlidhar> concretesledge: what did the output come ?
[11:08] <concretesledge> oh
[11:08] <concretesledge> it in my dir
[11:08] <MidnightJulia> Slart, Haha. I like the !root txt
[11:09] <murlidhar> concretesledge: it should in here /home/murlidhar/v4l-dvb
[11:09] <concretesledge> yeah mu
[11:09] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i found it
[11:09] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i type make install, and do you want the pastebin
[11:09] <concretesledge> !pastebin
[11:10] <murlidhar> concretesledge: yes
[11:10] <jaseem> why is ! used?
[11:10] <Slart> jaseem: it's for bot commands
[11:10] <elky> !bot
[11:10] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i put it in there and pushed paste
[11:10] <Slart> jaseem: !paste will make the bot tell you about pastebin for example
[11:11] <murlidhar> concretesledge: first give the command make and then sudo make
[11:11] <jaseem> let me try
[11:11] <concretesledge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/34372/
[11:11] <jaseem> !pastebin
[11:11] <murlidhar> concretesledge: give me the link
[11:11] <i2adoo> I am running ubuntu 8.04 on a Dell XPS 1130. Last night all was running ok, I shut it down in the proper manner. Today when I got home and tried starting it I got GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB written all over my screen (and it seemed to be doing a loop of some sort). I searched the net for the error, cand't say I found anything similar. Any tips on what I did wrong, what happened and how I can fix it? It is not a dual-booting machine
[11:11] <Falstaff> What is Ispci -nn supposed to do?
[11:11] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i forgot make first
[11:12] <Slart> i2adoo: not sure you did something wrong.. hard drives die, things break.. have you tried reinstalling grub?
[11:12] <Slart> !grub
[11:12] <TheNo1Yeti> Anyone know where I would look in my log files to see why my linux server isn't able to connect to outside machines.  I keep getting socket errors.  Incoming connections are fine, but like if I try to use irssi or perl socket connections it always fails.  Nothing showing up in /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog or any of the others I have checked.
[11:12] <i2adoo> ah, so I can just install grub?
[11:12] <Ziroday> Falstaff: according to man page        -nn    Show PCI vendor and device codes as both numbers and names.
[11:13] <Slart> i2adoo: yes.. check out the links ubottu gave you.. it's not that hard.. a couple of commands to run
[11:13] <Slart> Falstaff: I think it's lspci with a lower case L
[11:13] <i2adoo> can't really run any commands, but I guess it will work if I use the the ubuntu installer as is stated in that link
[11:13] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  still working
[11:13] <Slart> Falstaff: and it lists all the connected pci cards on your machine
[11:13] <i2adoo> thanks a bunch
[11:14] <Slart> i2adoo: or the live cd.. or the grub live cd.. there are many ways
[11:14] <blackpen> If i have ubuntu setup as the gateway in my office.. is it possible to view all network traffic and emails?
[11:14] <murlidhar> concretesledge: it will take some time i know that
[11:14] <Slart> blackpen: yes.. as hex at least
[11:14] <Falstaff> Thank you Slart ... that was my mistake
[11:14] <i2adoo> slart, thank you very much
[11:14] <Slart> blackpen: if you want to make sense of the traffic it gets a bit harder
[11:15] <blackpen> slart: can you tell me the best way to view content going in and out? like emails?
[11:15] <blackpen> i need to monitor some activity.
[11:15] <Slart> blackpen: if the connection is encrypted you won't be able to see much.. but take a look at tcpdump and those tools
[11:15] <Slart> !info tcpdump
[11:15] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  ok it is finished
[11:16] <blackpen> you mean the wireless encrpytion?
[11:16] <Slart> blackpen: no, I meant like https
[11:16] <murlidhar> concretesledge: i might have a regular powercut . so i might not be available on the channel here is the link to read carefully http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785476&highlight=hauppage+TV+tuner+card+tv1600
[11:16] <murlidhar> concretesledge: now sudo make install
[11:16] <blackpen> slart: im mainly interested in email. and it's not secure.
[11:16] <Slart> blackpen: I think you can use encryption in your mail client too if you want to
[11:17] <Slart> blackpen: then tcpdump should do it
[11:17] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  ya i did that
[11:17] <blackpen> slart: it's not configured.
[11:17] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  output coming up
[11:17] <Falstaff> Okay it found my modem ... now coms the hard part how do I access it ...?
[11:17] <blackpen> slart: do i need ubuntu to be setup as the gateway?
[11:17] <zxxd> does the xen kernel patch come with xen package source or the ubuntu linux source package
[11:18] <samuraj> Why there is no more w32codecs in ubuntu? How can I install it?
[11:18] <Slart> blackpen: It's the easiest way I think
[11:18] <concretesledge> murlidhar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/34376/
[11:18] <murlidhar> concretesledge: also i don't have a backup for my desktop if power goes off  / geeze.
[11:18] <Ziroday> !medibuntu > samuraj
[11:18] <blackpen> Slart: and will the contents of what is in emails be legible?
[11:18] <concretesledge> murlidhar, storm?
[11:18] <Slart> blackpen: you could probably just let the traffic flow through the ubuntu machine too.. but  I've never messed with it like that
[11:18] <Ziroday> How can I see CPU usage from the command line?
[11:18] <Slart> blackpen: if it's sent in plain text then yes
[11:18] <Slart> Ziroday: top or htop
[11:19] <Ziroday> Slart: ah, just found the CPU line in top, thanks
[11:19] <blackpen> slart: and if it's html?
[11:19] <Slart> blackpen: then you'll get html source code
[11:19] <samuraj> Ziroday: ok, ok I know, but ir should be available from other repositories..
[11:19] <blackpen> slart: oh, ok thats fine.
[11:19] <blackpen> slart: right now i have the ubuntu machine setup as a server.. is it complicated to set it up from there to be able to use TCPDUMP?
[11:19] <Ziroday> samuraj: its not in any of the default ubuntu repos, the best place to get it is from medibuntu
[11:20] <murlidhar> concretesledge: no here in india at my place there is shortage of electricity . so we are cut-off for almost 3 hours daily
[11:20] <Slart> blackpen: hmm.. you use something else as a gateway now?
[11:20] <blackpen> i have a router.
[11:20] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i see.
[11:20] <concretesledge> :/
[11:20] <murlidhar> concretesledge: restart the pc and then see
[11:21] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  ok brb
[11:22] <Slart> blackpen: setting up a ubuntu gateway isn't that hard if you know what you're doing... it will take a little bit more time if you have to setup dhcp and such.. but less than a day for a reasonably experienced linux admin
[11:22] <Slart> blackpen: all depending on how complex the network is, of course
[11:23] <Slart> blackpen: I wouldn't say it's something you do on your lunch break though..
[11:23] <negge> murlidhar: you should invest in a UPS
[11:23] <blackpen> slart: very simple.  there is a router. and it has several machines hooked up to it.  the ubuntu machine has a static ip and it's setup on the router to direct all traffic to that ip to the ubuntu machine.
[11:23] <db92> on the ubuntu installer, i choose the keyboard layout, it tells me "starting the partitioner" or something like that and then all of a sudden it hangs. what gives?
[11:23] <murlidhar> negge: no UPS would give me 3 hours backup . plus i can't afford so much :/
[11:24] <Slart> blackpen: sounds like you could replace the router with the ubuntu machine.. you'll need two nic's on the ubuntu machine afaik
[11:24] <Slart> !router
[11:24] <negge> db92: I had that problem when tried installing Ubuntu for the first time. Turned out that my harddrives where to crappy or something, I had to unplug them all except the one I was installing to in order to get the partitioner up and running
[11:24] <blackpen> slart: ok, i already have two nics.
[11:24] <blackpen> only one is used though
[11:24] <db92> negge :|||||
[11:24] <db92> negge: cant be, they all worked perfectly at the first install
[11:24] <db92> now im just reinstalling because i screwed up the ubuntu installation tons
[11:25] <negge> murlidhar: a car battery and a cheap inverter will do fine too. You can run a normal desktop computer (not a gaming monster rig) for atleast 6 hours on one charge
[11:25] <Slart> !ics | blackpen, here's some info
[11:25] <negge> db92: okay
[11:25] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  you there
[11:25] <murlidhar> concretesledge: yep
[11:25] <blackpen> Slart: i just thought of something..  does the router go before or after the ubuntu machine in this case?
[11:25] <db92> not to mention that at first the livecd started to hang @ the part where it supposedly said "kernel loading" or whatever
[11:26] <Slart> blackpen: you can remove the router completely
[11:26] <concretesledge> murlidhar, it booted into low graphics mode, now my nvidia drivers are changed
[11:26] <negge> db92: have you checked the integrity of the disc?
[11:26] <murlidhar> negge: thanks may next year . i got my budget tight this year
[11:26] <negge> murlidhar: alright
[11:26] <blackpen> Slart: the router is wireless.  and all the machines i want to monitor are on the wireless.
[11:26] <Slart> blackpen: many routers are actually low power computers with linux running
[11:26] <db92> negge: no but it all worked perfectly on my other pc just yesterday :|||||
[11:26] <negge> db92: okay
[11:26] <Slart> blackpen: ah.. then you can put the ubuntu machine between the internet and the router
[11:26] <negge> db92: it just hangs or what?
[11:27] <murlidhar> concretesledge: hmm
[11:27] <db92> hangs and then reboots the system automatically
[11:27] <negge> db92: you could try the alternate installer instead. That one usually works when the live CD doesn't...
[11:27] <db92> i dont even know how i managed to boot into the livecd, it was "coincidential"
[11:27] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  i saw something about this in that forum
[11:27] <db92> wheres the alternate installer? :|||
[11:27] <blackpen> slart: so it goes ROUTER-->UBUNTU-->INTERNET??
[11:27] <db92> dont tell me thats yet another download :P
[11:27] <negge> db92: unfortunately yes.
[11:27] <Slart> blackpen: yes
[11:27] <db92> gah
[11:27] <blackpen> Slart: and is it straight forward to do?
[11:28] <murlidhar> concretesledge: try the application that is something like nvidia-settings manager . i forget the name
[11:28] <Slart> blackpen: yes, you'll need to setup ip_forwarding (3 or 4 lines to run in a terminal)
[11:28] <Slart> blackpen: that's basically all
[11:28] <db92> woot....
[11:28] <blackpen> Slart: and does TCPDUMP have a gui?
[11:28] <db92> it seems i found the wrong disk :|||| this one says its ubuntu 7.10 :///
[11:28] <concretesledge> brb
[11:29] <Slart> blackpen: it's text based.. but there are other front ends and also other apps that do basically the same thing
[11:29] <blackpen> Slart: can you suggest any? im sorry about all th questions... but i need to get this working as quickly as possible as it's time sensitive.
[11:31] <Slart> blackpen: I've never had to do these kinds of things on my network.. tcpdump is the most common one.. ethereal/wireshark is another
[11:31] <blackpen> tcpdump is all command though?
[11:31] <db92> awesome, i seem to have misplaced my 8.04 cd ;_;
[11:31] <Slart> blackpen: yes.. perhaps ksniffer is easier to use.. worth a try
[11:31] <db92> can the livecd burn cds if the burner is another drive? :P
[11:31] <Slart> !info ksniffer
[11:32] <Slart> db92: yes
[11:33] <montfordpc1> hello there
[11:34] <[z]neo> anyone here using truecrpyt?
[11:34] <cheebhodh> Hello...
[11:34] <jpds> !truecrypt
[11:34] <i2adoo> does installing 64 bit ubuntu on a 32 bit computer do... bad things?:D
[11:35] <montfordpc1> hello there
[11:35] <xnv> i2adoo: Assuming it'll even let you do that, yes, I imagine so
[11:35] <Slart> i2adoo: I don't think it will work.. that would be bad, wouldn't it? =) it won't break anything or make things explode though
[11:35] <wers> what's the app for advance compiz settings management again?
[11:35] <Slart> !ccsm
[11:35] <[z]neo> i use truecrpyt  in windows for my enclosure, can i use truecrypt in linux to open my encrypted enclosure?
[11:36] <Slart> [z]neo: should work
[11:36] <xnv> [z]neo: Why wouldn't it?
[11:36] <wers> wow. it;s so common that ubottu knows  it. haha
[11:36] <[z]neo> i havent tried to install truecypt for linux yet
[11:37] <i2adoo> well I think I did manage to put a 64-bit ubuntu on a 32 bit comp, did not notice anything wierd.. till today :D
[11:37] <Slart> i2adoo: it wouldn't even boot up
[11:37] <antazy> Hi, when i read pdf (Evince) and click on "xmpp:" link it open in evolution like mailto link, i need that it was open in pidgin. How configure it?
[11:38] <i2adoo> well either I remember the fact that I used the cd I have in my hand now wrong, or I managed to do it
[11:38] <i2adoo> :)
[11:38] <[z]neo> can someone give or suggest any free rar opener?
[11:38] <i2adoo> though it probably is my faulty memory, prolly asked myself the same question then and got a 32bit one
[11:39] <xnv> [z]neo: "free" in what way?
[11:39] <[z]neo> freeware
[11:39] <Slart> i2adoo: installing a 64-bit os on a 32-bit processor isn't like climbing a mountain.. it's not something you can do if you try hard enough.. it just won't work.. not by accident.. not if you're chuck norris.. never ever
[11:39] <[z]neo> Archiver for .rar files
[11:39] <[z]neo> This is the RAR archiver from Eugene Roshal. It supports multiple volume archives and damage protection. It can also create SFX-archives. There are versions which run on DOS, Windows (3.1x,95,NT), FreeBSD, BSDI.
[11:39] <[z]neo> This program is shareware and you must register it after 40 days of use.
[11:39] <Ziroday> [z]neo: there are plenty in the repos
[11:39] <xnv> [z]neo: In Ubuntu there is the unrar package. Sounds like you need to learn how to use Synaptic.
[11:39] <[z]neo> i only see that
[11:39] <Slart> !rar
[11:40] <Slart> i2adoo: try typing this in a terminal, "uname -a"
[11:40] <[z]neo> !info unrar-free
[11:40] <i2adoo> Slart: I'd trust you are right, it won't boot from a 64-bit cd right now, but it's the cd I remember using to install it in the first place...
[11:40] <blackpen> Slart: does these programs display what was typed into something like gmail?
[11:41] <blackpen> slart:ksniffer, specifically?
[11:41] <Slart> blackpen: everything sent can be displayed.. I'm not sure if gmail uses https or something though
[11:41] <blackpen> what if there is https?
[11:41] <i2adoo> Slart: well I can't cause it's the computer that won't boot cause of the grub...
[11:41] <Slart> blackpen: then you're out of luck
[11:41] <damie> need help with ubuntu, sharing folder with vista, windows98 I can see and use but vista I can not. anyone know how I can concect to vista shared folder ?
[11:41] <Slart> i2adoo: aahhh.. I forgot. sorry
[11:42] <Slart> blackpen: install a webcam behind the computer you're trying to intercept the network traffic from
[11:42] <[z]neo> how can i get this? ubottu: unrar-free (source: unrar-free): Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20070515-1 (hardy), package size 40 kB, installed size 124 kB
[11:42] <blackpen> slart:bummer.  can i at least see that something was sent from gmail?
[11:42] <blackpen> Slart: yeah, a webcam.  :)
[11:42] <xnv> [z]neo: Synaptic
[11:42] <Slart> blackpen: you'll see that the person accessed gmail from a  webbrowser, yes
[11:42] <Chris|> when making a livecd using debootstrap, where do you put the files you want to be in the users home dir when they install? if that makes sense
[11:43] <xnv> [z]neo: Or are you using Ubuntu server?
[11:43] <blackpen> slart, ok
[11:43] <[z]neo> nope
[11:43] <[z]neo> desktop
[11:43] <concretesledge> murlidhar, now my display is screwed up.. disabled the driver.. but now my res is like 400 x 600
[11:43] <tillux1> heya
[11:43] <tillux1> is there a way to disable pulseAudio without breaking the whole bunch of soundapps?
[11:43] <xnv> [z]neo: Then use Synaptic
[11:44] <tillux1> cause I'm using the m-audio delta audiophile 2496, which doesn't work with pulseaudio
[11:44] <murlidhar> concretesledge: hhmmm .type xrandr
[11:44] <Chris|> tillux1, the way i disabled pulseaudio is i went to system > preferences > sound then switch all the drop down boxes to alsa
[11:44] <tillux1> well, I think I could purge pulseaudio and the audio-apps and compile them all myself...
[11:44] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  yep..
[11:45] <murlidhar> damie: by default all ntfs drives can be accessed by ubuntu
[11:45] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  only very large res
[11:45] <tillux1> Chris|: well... yes, but then sound-apps like audacity etc won't work
[11:45] <tillux1> and these are the ones I need most (running ubuntuStudio)
[11:45] <murlidhar> concretesledge: does it show any res supported by the card
[11:45] <tillux1> or linuxsampler... :/
[11:45] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  no. ;/
[11:45] <Chris|> tillux1, then in audiacity's settings switch it to use alsa plugin? (i might be wrong but i had to do this with beep-media-player)
[11:46] <afloofloo> if i created a sparse file with dd, can i somehow change the "maximum" size of this file later on?
[11:46] <murlidhar> concretesledge: change the resolution to xrandr -s 1024x800 or whatever u want
[11:47] <EF_Codd> If I get good enough at Ubuntu, should i move up to Debian?
[11:48] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  didnt work
[11:48] <murlidhar> concretesledge: or u can change it from system>administration>
[11:48] <EF_Codd> I'll be needing an answer. Thank you.
[11:48] <tillux1> Chris|: (it is going to lag) however, that's not the point... all audio apps use pulseaudio, and I don't want to use it, as it simply doesn't work with my soundcard (see Bug  228875 and Bug 178442 in launchpad)
[11:48] <Slart> EF_Codd: yes.. and then you continue to level 3.. there are cheat codes available too ;) ...
[11:48] <EF_Codd> Slart excellent!
[11:48] <EF_Codd> Slart i assume level 3 would be a BSD
[11:48] <murlidhar> concretesledge: i don't use gnome or kde . so therefore i am not sure where exactly it can be changed . just search it up  .
[11:49] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  the only biggest option is 640 x 800 .. or something
[11:49] <Slart> EF_Codd: no.. debian and ubuntu are different.. not levels above or under each other
[11:49] <Slart> EF_Codd: find a system you like, that you understand and can work with.
[11:49] <EF_Codd> Slart you don't say
[11:49] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  ahh.. ok
[11:49] <murlidhar> concretesledge: u need to change the drivers
[11:49] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  everything is HUGE
[11:49] <EF_Codd> Slart like, i'm allowed to recompile my kernel with one, and not the other
[11:49] <guido79> Hi guys, I'm forced to add a second system to my ubuntu laptop. The system I need is an rpm-based distro. I've been provided with a two-dvd set for a Fedora 7 distro with custom packages added. The situation of my disk is: Ubuntu - free spage (many GBs) - ntfs data. Any suggestions for the installation / boot configuration ? Thanks !
[11:50] <Slart> EF_Codd: I don't think there is a system that doesn't allow you to compile your own kernels.. (perhaps windows).. some encourage it more than others though
[11:50] <murlidhar> concretesledge: if u need to drag any window try holding alt button and move it with the mouse .
[11:50] <murlidhar> concretesledge: u will find it easier
[11:50] <murlidhar> to manage
[11:50] <EF_Codd> guido79 why do you think you need an rpm distro?
[11:50] <guido79> EF_Codd in order to install ltib.
[11:50] <EF_Codd> Slart ah, i should have put 'allowed' in '' ... what I mean is, ask about re-compiling here and see the response
[11:51] <guido79> I've tried in many ways on ubuntu, but lots of trouble keep popping up...
[11:51] <EF_Codd> Slart anyway I'm finished being facetious
[11:51] <shesek> how can I tell whats consuming my ram ?
[11:51] <Intrepid> I'm having a problem with wireless networking. I have it set to get an address from the DHCP server, but the networking does not work when I login. If I change it to roaming mode, apply, then change back from roaming mode (entering all necessary info again) it works. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[11:51] <EF_Codd> shesek top
[11:51] <Xavura> Why does my window manager crash every 3-4 hours
[11:51] <Xavura> for no reason
[11:51] <shesek> but I cant find anything there
[11:51] <xnv> guido79: Tried using alien?
[11:51] <EF_Codd> shesek what do you mean?
[11:51] <shesek> 3-4 programs that use 0.5-1.5% of the memory
[11:51] <Xavura> I don't have a title bar anymore
[11:51] <Rafael> hi
[11:51] <shesek> the rest has zeros
[11:51] <murlidhar> shesek: see gnome system information in system>administration
[11:51] <Slart> EF_Codd: hehe.. correct.. but try gentoo if you like compiling stuff.. or one of those linux from scratch systems.. great way to learn about linux
[11:51] <tillux1> Xavura: which one?
[11:51] <Xavura> compiz fusion
[11:51] <shesek> murlidhar, its a server
[11:52] <shesek> Mem:          4050       3898        152          0         15       3552
[11:52] <EF_Codd> shesek so why do you think all your memory is being used up?
[11:52] <Xavura> it's totally messed up
[11:52] <shesek> a brand new server
[11:52] <Xavura> I can't click things
[11:52] <Xavura> how can I fix it
[11:52] <shesek> I dont get it :\
[11:52] <Xavura> I have work unsaved
[11:52] <EF_Codd> Slart did that about 15 years ago ;)
[11:52] <i2adoo> Is there a way to find the WEP key of a wi-fi network I am already on?
[11:52] <guido79> xnv Trust me, it's almost impossible to get it properly installed and working on ubuntu... And i need perfect reliability...
[11:52] <Xavura> Alt+F2 won't work...
[11:52] <EF_Codd> Slart my first 'real' job was with AIX as well
[11:52] <shesek> EF_Codd, look up ^
[11:52] <EF_Codd> Slart :)
[11:52] <Rafael> i'm having problems to install ubuntu in a RAID0 system, can somebody help me?
[11:52] <tillux1> Xavura: either stop using compiz or update your graphics-card driver or something like that
[11:52] <Xavura> No
[11:52] <xnv> guido79: I'll take that as a no
[11:52] <Xavura> It's fine
[11:52] <Xavura> It just randomly stops every day or so
[11:53] <tillux1> hit strg+alt+backspace to restart x ;)
[11:53] <tillux1> or
[11:53] <Flannel> shesek: Unused RAM is wasted RAM.  The kernel grabs anything it can that it thinks will be useful and stores it in RAM
[11:53] <Xavura> I don't want to lose my files
[11:53] <tillux1> open up a terminal
[11:53] <Xavura> I can't
[11:53] <tillux1> and type compiz --replace
[11:53] <Xavura> Can't click anything
[11:53] <Slart> EF_Codd: hehe.. good old systems
[11:53] <guido79> xnv Did'nt use alien, I was discouraged to use it on this channel...
[11:53] <shesek> Flannel, but on my personal computer with 512 ram I see more free ram than on the server
[11:53] <shesek> how can that be ?
[11:53] <EF_Codd> Slart hey, enough of the 'old' ;)
[11:53] <Xavura> well
[11:53] <Xavura> I can open a terminal
[11:53] <bazhang> Xavura, alt f2 metacity --replace
[11:53] <Xavura> but I can't give it focus
[11:53] <shesek> and how can I tell how much is being used ?
[11:53] <Xavura> so I can't type in it
[11:53] <EF_Codd> Slart we still use an RS/6000
[11:53] <Flannel> shesek: "free" is a misnomer.
[11:54] <concretesledge> murlidhar,  my original drivers are installed but.. its just not allowing me to change the resolution
[11:54] <Xavura> I don't use metacity
[11:54] <shesek> Flannel, so how can I really check that ?
[11:54] <xnv> Xavura: CTRL + ALT + F1 should get you a terminal login. CTRL + ALT + F7 to get back to Gnome.
[11:54] <tillux1> Xavura: but you can temporarily use it in order to start compiz again
[11:54] <Slart> EF_Codd: what change things that work.. and keep on working.. but this is getting !ot
[11:54] <Slart> *why
[11:54] <notabene> i want to create alias for gnome-terminal command. alias is added to aliases list but it doesnt work. whereas another alias(for 'cd' command worked fine). what do i do wrong?
[11:54] <EF_Codd> shesek ah, you don't understand the system. That's cool. Linux uses memory in a differnent way than you are used to
[11:54] <ks> quit
[11:54] <guido79> xnv Moreover, ltib has a weird script-managed installation, it's not a simple rpm package...
[11:54] <proteusguy> Does ubuntu have a script/ui to manage autostarting init.d scripts for certain run levels or am I supposed to setup the dynamic links myself?
[11:54] <EF_Codd> shesek if you want the long explanation i'll provide a link
[11:54] <Slart> !boot
[11:55] <xnv> guido79: alien will include scripts if you specify so
[11:55] <Rafael> i'm having problems to install ubuntu in a RAID0 system, can somebody help me?
[11:55] <EF_Codd> Slart yeah, that's our thinking .. hell, we have a DNS machine running SunOS
[11:55] <EF_Codd> no lie
[11:55] <shesek> well, I can understand that, like the <idle> in this windows
[11:55] <shesek> but how can I see how much ram is really being used ?
[11:55] <legend2440> concretesledge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#You%20use%20the%20%22nvidia%22%20driver%20(Binary%20drivers)    see section called    You use the "nvidia" driver (Binary drivers)
[11:55] <bazhang> EF_Codd, you have a support question or just wish to chat
[11:55] <lwolf> hi
[11:55] <EF_Codd> shesek you know about cached memory?
[11:55] <guido79> So, add a Fedora to my system is troublesome ? The dvd's contain a total of 3 big tar.gz's... Should I just dump the files in the partition and configure grub in some way ?
[11:56] <proteusguy> Slart: way cool - thanx.
[11:56] <shesek> EF_Codd, kind of
[11:56] <lwolf> for people using aMsn: http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/ubuntu-8-04-hardy-heron/install-the-last-version-of-amsn-on-ubuntu-8-04-hardy-heron/view
[11:56] <Flannel> shesek: Its the next line down.  the "used" for buffers/cache is what you're actually "using"
[11:56] <EF_Codd> guido79 sorry, I haven't scrolled up, but you DON'T need to Fedora
[11:56] <xnv> guido79: You should ask in #fedora about installing Fedora
[11:56] <EF_Codd> shesek well, the short answer is, your memory isn't all being used up :)
[11:56] <guido79> EF_Codd What's your suggestion ?
[11:57] <EF_Codd> guido79 create an rpm package .. compile yourself ... want any more answers?
[11:57] <bazhang> guido79, what are you trying to accomplish
[11:57] <shesek> EF_Codd, ok, cool
[11:57] <shesek> I see swap isnt being used at all
[11:57] <guido79> bazhang installing ltib and getting it 100% reliable.
[11:57] <shesek> is that ok?
[11:57] <EF_Codd> shesek anyway, don't worry. The kernel attempts to keep this slightly above zero by keeping the cache as large as possible. This is a feature not a bug.
[11:58] <Flannel> shesek: yeah, swap is slow.  It won't use it unless it has to.
[11:58] <shesek> Flannel, thank you too
[11:58] <alraune>  shesek: if you got lots of ram
[11:58] <EF_Codd> shesek no probs, it's a question that comes up regularly
[11:58] <EF_Codd> shesek but if you ever stop using *nix I'll hunt you down
[11:58] <guido79> bazhang It's guaranteed on Fedora and marked as unstable in Debian, no traces on Ubuntu...
[11:59] <bazhang> guido79, what is it you need it for
[11:59] <KEBA> hello
[11:59] <EF_Codd> shesek here's a nice easy explanation ... http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html
[12:00] <shesek> EF_Codd, heh, no way
[12:00] <KEBA> i want to have a fluxbox/obenbox like kontexmenu for gnome... does anybody know some programm?
[12:00] <guido79> bazhang Developing for embedded freescale targets...
[12:00] <shesek> using ubuntu for more than a year, I'm happy with it
[12:00] <wols> guido79: a chroot
[12:00] <EF_Codd> shesek I like that .. and being an ubuntu channel i won't even direct you to my favourite distro ;)
[12:01] <wols> guido79: where is ltib on debian?
[12:01] <EF_Codd> KEBA what is kontexmenu?
[12:01] <guido79> wols there's no ltib on debian.
[12:01] <wols> EF_Codd: he means the right click popup from fluxbox
[12:01] <guido79> That's why i need fedora.
[12:02] <EF_Codd> guido79 can't ltib be built from source?
[12:02] <EF_Codd> wols ah, well that ain't hard
[12:02] <EF_Codd> incidently ... flux rocks hard!
[12:03] <guido79> EF_Codd no, there's no source in the project page.
[12:03] <KEBA> EF_Codd: desktop -> right click -> then comes a menu
[12:03] <EF_Codd> guido79 you are forcing me to research ... but i still like you
[12:03] <guido79> http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/ltib Where's the source ?
[12:03] <EF_Codd> KEBA i don't usually say this, but a quick google will tell you all you need. It's good to know how to configure fluxbox. it is the best wm
[12:03]  * EF_Codd ducks
[12:03] <guido79> EF_Codd I appreciate it ! :D
[12:04] <Nonick> wow
[12:04] <Rafael> i'm having problems to install ubuntu in a RAID0 system, can somebody help me?
[12:04] <Nonick> hi all
[12:04] <Nonick> to install
[12:04] <wols> EF_Codd: he wants the menu of fluxbox in gnome
[12:04] <Slart> Rafael: are you using the alternate install cd?
[12:05] <Nonick> Rational of Eclipse ?
[12:05] <Rafael> Slart yes
[12:05] <Csledge> aw
[12:05] <Csledge> fucker
[12:05] <Slart> !language | Csledge
[12:05] <wols> EF_Codd: why means your suggestion to simply google is bollocks
[12:05] <bazhang> http://www.bitshrine.org/autodocs/LtibFaq.html#ref_13 guido79
[12:05] <bazhang> Csledge, no cursing please
[12:06] <Csledge> yah
[12:06] <Rafael> Slart it shows 2 sata driver instead a raid0 system
[12:06] <Csledge> well that murl guy tried helping me and now hes gone
[12:06] <Csledge> :(
[12:06] <Csledge> now my res is 400 x 300 and i cant do anything
[12:06] <bazhang> Csledge, ask again and no profanity
[12:06] <Csledge> you ever had a 2 inch letter
[12:07] <Slart> Rafael: are you using software raid? or some kind of onboard raid?
[12:07] <guido79> bazhang Know these links well, tried everything they say...
[12:07] <Csledge> i tried installing drivers for a HVR TVTUNER 1600, now my res is 400 x 300 max
[12:07] <Rafael> Slart onboard raid, i have a striker II formula, by asus
[12:07] <Csledge> nvidia graphics proprietary driver is installed
[12:07] <GrimmVarg> !help
[12:07] <GrimmVarg> !cloak
[12:07] <bazhang> Csledge, you trying to set up a mythtv box or what
[12:08] <Csledge> bazhang, tvtime.. yeah
[12:08] <Slart> Rafael: are you sure your on board raid chip is supported by ubuntu/linux? not many are
[12:08] <Csledge> bazhang, but now i dont care about the TV tuner i just want regular res..
[12:08] <wols> Csledge: pastebin your xorg.conf and your Xorg.0.log
[12:08] <Slart> !fakeraid | Rafael
[12:08] <DukeDave> Hey team, my question: I'd like a command for apt/dpkg which when given a package will tell me all the files and their destinations, sound possible?
[12:08] <wols> DukeDave: dpkg -L <package>
[12:08] <wols> DukeDave: won't tell you config files
[12:08] <Slart> DukeDave: apt-cache show <packagename> might give you some info
[12:09] <tillux1> hm, what is the xfce/xubuntu app called that provides a splash screen (not the boot screen/splash)?
[12:09] <k88> any tools to convert xvid to dvd (with subtititles) ?
[12:09] <Csledge> xorg.conf doesn't exhist on my machine
[12:09] <Rafael> Slart to be true i'm don't know, where can i find a compatibility list?
[12:09] <wols> Csledge: where did you look for it?
[12:10] <wols> Rafael: you have a fakeraid
[12:10] <Csledge> oh sorry, yes it does
[12:10] <Slart> Rafael: check the link ubottu sent you.. might be there
[12:10] <wols> Rafael: which means you need software raid
[12:10] <jest123> Hi, it seems that I am having problems with the authenticating the package sources, ie aptitude complains for untrusted source
[12:10] <Csledge> wols,  there is no installed view capable of viewing that log file
[12:10] <wols> jest123: exact output please
[12:10] <EF_Codd1> Sorry about that ... unceremoniously dropped from my connection
[12:10] <wols> Csledge: I didn't call fo you to look at it, I told you to pastebin it
[12:11] <EF_Codd1> can whoever I was helping remind me of their nick?
[12:11] <xnv> k88: Try asking Google
[12:11] <DukeDave> wols: Slart: Excellent, exactly what I needed,  thanks :D
[12:11] <wols> k88: start with doom9.org
[12:11] <Rafael> Slart those pages does not open, did it open to you?
[12:11] <xymaxyma> 부시 방한에 경찰 “시내버스도 통행금지”
[12:11] <wols> Rafael: you have a fakeraid, that'S certain
[12:11] <Csledge> wols, sorry.. what type of paste is it?
[12:11] <EF_Codd1> xymaxyma um, I say you need to reconfigure X
[12:11] <Slart> Rafael: yes.. works for me
[12:11] <jest123> wols: after apt-get install i get: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[12:11] <wols> !paste < Csledge
[12:11] <Slart> !whois xymaxyma
[12:12] <EF_Codd1> xymaxyma 'course that's just a guess
[12:12] <wols> !paste
[12:12] <Csledge> i am on pastebin
[12:12] <Slart> !kr  | xymaxyma
[12:12] <wols> jest123: this goes for your too
[12:12] <jest123> wols: ok
[12:12] <Slart> bah..
[12:12] <Csledge> wols, but how can i paste a file without opening it
[12:12] <i2adoo> Ok, need a little bit more help: I put the ubuntu live cd in the laptop and it gets to the choose what you wan to do, whatever I select it says loading linux kernel, after that i goes black with a little input promt that does nothing just sits there and flashes.
[12:12] <Slart> !korea | xymaxyma
[12:12] <Nonick> hi
[12:12] <EF_Codd1> Slart don't hate the bot
[12:12] <Nonick> are there rational for linux ?
[12:12] <wols> Csledge: use a terminal. stop futzing with the gui
[12:12] <EF_Codd1> wols i like your style
[12:12] <wols> Nonick: ask IBM, not us
[12:12] <db92> nailed it, i found why i cant install, but i dunno how to fix :||||
[12:13] <wols> EF_Codd1: I don't like yours. seems not everyone can be happy
[12:13] <Nonick> eclipse rlz
[12:13] <EF_Codd1> wols the thing is, i lied :(
[12:13] <db92> it seems one of my drives inside refuses to be mounted because it says "resource unavailable" or something relevant, any clues?
[12:13] <wols> errors | db92
[12:13] <wols> !errors | db92
[12:13] <jest123> wols: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/34384/
[12:13] <Csledge> wols, how can i execute the xorg.conf.fallback
[12:13] <Csledge> gtk
[12:13] <Csledge> wols, sorry trying to find the file and then somehow get it into pastebin
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> db92: is it a pata or sata drive?
[12:14] <wols> jest123: apt-cache policy easytag-aac   what repo provides the package?
[12:14] <wols> Csledge: /var/log
[12:14] <grobda24> What is the system that auto finds dependencies when compiling ?
[12:14] <pepe_swash> hello. What image viewer under ubuntu would compare to irfanview?
[12:14] <db92> db92: sata iirc
[12:14] <db92> ActionParsnip: sata iirc*
[12:14]  * grobda24 says hello.
[12:14] <wols> Csledge: I didn't tell you to execute anything, I told you to pastebin those two files
[12:14] <Nonick> :=)
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> !gxviewer
[12:14] <xymaxyma> ubottu, thx, but I can undestand english little...
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> !info gxviewer
[12:14] <Slart> pepe_swash: there are many.. I don't know if there is one that compares to irfanview though
[12:14] <bazhang> !equivalents | pepe_swash check here
[12:15] <wols> grobda24: does not exist
[12:15] <EF_Codd1> who was I helping with ltib?
[12:15] <alraune> ) ***grobda24 : löle
[12:15] <jest123> wols:  http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages
[12:15] <wols> grobda24: there is autoconf and automake but there is nothing automatic about it
[12:15] <xymaxyma> a
[12:15] <tururururuururur> ___Æ___ !ARRIBA! !!! ARRIBA NUESTRA MAFIA !!!ES NUESTRO LEMA GRANDE Y LIBRE CAGANDONOS EN LAS RESPECTIVAS PUTAS MADRES DE LOS DEMAS ___Æ___
[12:15] <xymaxyma> soory,
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> db92: ok does it detect in bios?
[12:15] <Slart> pepe_swash: you'll have to check in synaptic.. here's a few to get you started, f-spot, eye of gnome, imageview
[12:15] <bazhang> tururururuururur, stop
[12:15] <tururururuururur>  ENCONTRARTE DESARRAIGADO Y SIN COMIDA KE LLEVARTE A ESA BOKA DE MIERDA EN UN PATIO DE LUCES ES ALGO KE ME TOKA LOS COJONES MUY POCO, ME LOS TOKA MAS KE HAGAS ALIAS COMO UN BOBALICÓN LIPENDI CANTIMPLA DE MIERDA DE LOS COJONES Y TE CREAS KE SON BUENOS HOMBRE, BASTA YA
[12:15] <db92> ye fcors, it all works properly when i boot my vista partition
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> somebody kick him
[12:15] <db92> and its normally seen @ bios
[12:16] <db92> it even works properly on my previous ubuntu installation, this happens to me for the first time on the livecd :|||
[12:16] <Csledge> wols, ok sorry.. what type of syntax should i paste them
[12:16] <grobda24> wols ... ok, I'm sure I've seen something.
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> db92: ok, do you see it in sudo fdisk -l
[12:16] <xymaxyma> I said, Korean polices banned public buses a while because of visiting of bush....
[12:16] <Rafael> Slart it opened now, i'm reading, but i have a simple question, there is any performance gain using hardware fakeRAID under Linux?
[12:16] <wols> Csledge: I want the content of those two files
[12:16] <Slart> pepe_swash: and of course.. pornview (which isn't as dirty as one would expect from the name)
[12:16] <bazhang> xymaxyma, not here
[12:16] <xymaxyma> I want to talk to my korean friends..
[12:16] <xymaxyma> sorry
[12:16] <wols> !kr
[12:16] <Slart> Rafael: just as in windows.. no real gain
[12:16] <EF_Codd1> !korea
[12:16] <xymaxyma> i used /amsg..;
[12:16] <xymaxyma> got it..
[12:16] <bazhang> xymaxyma, this is not a chat channel; this is ubuntu support
[12:16] <EF_Codd1> wols there, helped you out
[12:16] <pepe_swash> fspot is quite a hassle. interesting, but slooooow. eye of gnome is minimalist. will check others. thanks
[12:16] <wols> Rafael: no. the only reason is to access a windows fakeraid partition
[12:16] <db92> ActionParsnip: ye its there
[12:16] <Slart> Rafael: I'd recommend using software raid instead if you really want to use raid
[12:17] <db92> woot, now it mounted all of a sudden :||
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> db92: ok then you'll need to add it to /etc/fsta to make it mount
[12:17] <wols> Rafael: in all other ways it is worse
[12:17] <pepe_swash> slart: hehe. will check this one too
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> /etc/fstab
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> db92: what filesystem does it use?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> db92: cool
[12:17] <xymaxyma> ye I understood! I forgot I'm in #ubuntu channel. I'm very sorry about using /amsg when I joined in this channel..
[12:17] <db92> ActionParsnip: ntfs
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> db92: maybe it was just waking up
[12:18] <db92> ActionParsnip: doesnt look like it
[12:18] <db92> as soon as i used the installer
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> db92: then check ntfs-3g if you want it writable
[12:18] <Rafael> Slart wols so it's almost "in vain" use the chipset raid onboard of those modern mobos?
[12:18] <db92> they both unmounted
[12:18] <EF_Codd1> xymaxyma well don't do it again! And never recompile your kernel! Remember, this is ubuntu!
[12:18] <db92> no im merely trying to manage to reinstall ubuntu but it gets stuck at the partitioner, obviously because it has some kind of problem to read the drives
[12:18] <robert__> hello!
[12:19] <AnAnt> How can I add several ppp connections in Network settings ?
[12:19] <wols> Rafael: yes, that raid is pretty much useless as a raid
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> db92: hmm, did you md5 check your cd?
[12:19] <Guest52891> I don't know...
[12:19] <Ayabara> I have some wmv videos that are fudged up in Ubuntu. Most of the picture is green, and I can barely make out what's going on. In windows these files play like they should. Any ideas?
[12:19] <AnAnt> How can I teach Ubuntu to a 50 year old computer illeterate ?
[12:19] <db92> not really but it tends to work properly everywhere else :||
[12:19] <db92> the other machines i mean
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> AnAnt: yes easily
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> db92: id check the disk just as a precaution
[12:19] <Guest52891> Hello! Im from poland
[12:19] <AnAnt> ActionParsnip: that answers which question ?
[12:20] <wols> AnAnt: be his admin. only make him use ubuntu. web browsing, email, writing a letter
[12:20] <bazhang> !pl | Guest52891
[12:20] <Csledge> oh god
[12:20] <EF_Codd1> Guest52891 hello! I'm not!
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> AnAnt: can you show ubuntu to a 50 year old noob
[12:20] <bazhang> AnAnt, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:20] <Guest52891> okej :)
[12:20] <wols> db92: what does dmesg and tail syslog say?
[12:20] <AnAnt> How can I add several ppp connections in Network settings in Hardy ?
[12:20] <db92> wols: come again? :P
[12:20] <AnAnt> bazhang: ok, thanks
[12:20] <wols> db92: what does dmesg and tail syslog say?
[12:20] <db92> wols: noob friendliness required :p
[12:20] <Csledge> wols,  ok sorry how can i read them in terminal ;(
[12:21] <db92> wols: sec
[12:21] <wols> !errors | Csledge
[12:21] <EF_Codd1> db92 he means, type dmesg and tail syslog in console
[12:21] <kindofabuzz> what's the command to see partitions and whats the name of a command line partioner, that has an X maybe
[12:21] <Rafael> Slart wols thank you for you time and pacience, take care
[12:21] <Guest52891> *TEST*
[12:21] <db92> EF_Codd1: figured
[12:21] <db92> :P
[12:21] <Csledge> wols,  i dont know how to get you the contents of those two files within konsole.
[12:21] <db92> wols: tail syslog does nothing :|||
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> kindofabuzz: parted
[12:21] <wols> kindofabuzz: sudo fdisk -l  and use cfdisk to create new partitions
[12:21] <pepe_swash> how comes XNVIEW is not under synaptic? (all depots activted...)
[12:21] <EF_Codd1> db92 he can be obtuse. I'm here to clarify
[12:21] <kindofabuzz> thanks
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !parted | kindofabuzz
[12:21] <wols> !errors | Csledge
[12:22] <Guest52891> :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[12:22] <bazhang> Guest52891, please dont
[12:22] <EF_Codd1> !gparted
[12:22] <Csledge> does anyone know how i can get the contents of a few files within terminal
[12:22] <wols> db92: the syslog file is in /var/log/ and unless you use sudo it won't work
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Csledge: cat ;)
[12:22] <wols> Csledge: cat <file>, less <file> etc
[12:22] <Guest52891> bazhang: why?
[12:22] <kindofabuzz> well i was looking for a partioner that will has a gui but can be Xforwarded
[12:22] <kindofabuzz> headless server
[12:22] <wols> kindofabuzz: gparted
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> kindofabuzz: just use fdisk or cfdisk, simple
[12:23] <bazhang> Guest52891, this is a busy support channel; #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[12:23] <wols> kindofabuzz: but it's not needed. ssh in, use cfdisk. it's pretty enough
[12:23] <EF_Codd1> kindofabuzz yeah gparted as I said before
[12:23] <db92> wols: it seems the output is too big to even manage to copy paste :||
[12:23] <kindofabuzz> gparted won't work, no gnome
[12:23] <wols> !info pastebinit
[12:23] <wols> db92: use that
[12:23] <Guest52891> nonononono :(
[12:23] <xymaxyma> I have a plan to upgrade my desktop-server, and I heard about 'ubuntu servers' and desktops do not recognize 8 giga bytes RAM. What should I do?
[12:23] <kindofabuzz> there we go, cfdisk
[12:24] <EF_Codd1> xymaxyma use FreeBSD
[12:24] <EF_Codd1> next!
[12:24] <db92> wols: i can install packages like that while on the livecd? :|
[12:24] <wols> db92: dmesg  | tail -n 20   is not too big btw
[12:24] <xymaxyma> ?!
[12:24] <wols> db92: afaik yes, they're just gone when you reboot
[12:24] <db92> wols: i was talking about tail /var/log/syslog :P
[12:24] <EF_Codd1> xymaxyma ubuntu is a toy distro. Move up to *BSD
[12:24] <alraune>  xymaxyma: do a fresh install, use the sever-appliance of ubuntu
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> EF_Codd1: why do i need to reinstall my graphics driver when i upgrade my kernel?
[12:24] <Csledge> wols Xorg.0.log pastebin ->
[12:24] <bazhang> EF_Codd1, please stop
[12:24] <alraune>  xymaxyma: do a fresh install, use the server-appliance of ubuntu
[12:24] <xymaxyma> Thx;;; well OK..
[12:24] <wols> xymaxyma: it can deal with 8gb just fine if you run amd64
[12:25] <EF_Codd1> bazhang i'll leave instead, the noob questions hurt my head
[12:25] <ianm_> anyone know how to encode a bunch of raw RGB file data, one file per frame, as a movie?
[12:25] <kindofabuzz> can you not resize with cfdisk?
[12:25] <wols> ActionParsnip: depends a bit on how you installed it. mostly because nvidia and ati are fscking m.
[12:25] <wols> kindofabuzz: no. only gparted can do that
[12:25] <Csledge> wols, /v4l_drv. that v4l was the driver for the tvtuner
[12:25] <Ayabara> I agree with the "friends don't let friends use wmv". Can someone recommend a tool I should use for transcoding my wmv videos to other formats? Should I do it in Windows to get better quality (because of a better wmv codec)?
[12:25] <wols> Csledge: did I ask you anything about some /v4l_drv (sic!)?
[12:26] <Guest52891> .......................
[12:26] <Guest52891> .................................
[12:26] <Guest52891> .........................................
[12:26] <Guest52891> ................................
[12:26] <Guest52891> .................................
[12:26] <wols> bazhang: please kick him
[12:26] <FloodBot2> Guest52891: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:26] <bazhang> Guest52891, please stop
[12:26] <wols> Guest52891: stop disrupting the channel
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Ayabara: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/23/convert-wmv-into-avi-with-ubuntu/
[12:26] <bullgard4> "$ man gnome-display-properties; No manual entry for gnome-display-properties" Where can I obtain a manual about this command?
[12:26] <jork> Does enybodyn know for a website with 3d desktop wallpapers fo linux?
[12:26] <db92> wols: http://pastebin.com/f6adec623 is /var/log/syslog
[12:26] <wols> Ayabara: wmv on *linux uses the same codecs as on windows
[12:27] <Ayabara> wols: hm. I have a couple of videos that play nice on Vista, but look all green and distorted on Ubuntu.
[12:27] <kindofabuzz> wols: will installing gparted also install gnome? don't want that
[12:27] <Ayabara> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:27] <wols> db92: I have no clue what you did wrong but this: ug  5 11:17:41 ubuntu ubiquity: /lib/partman/display.d/80manual_partitioning: 9: cannot create /var/lib/partman/snoop: Directory nonexistent   seems to be the problem
[12:27] <jest123> I am having problems authenticating packages in xubuntu 8.04.1 is my trusted.gpg ok? http://paste.ubuntu.com/34387/
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Ayabara: websearching is your friend
[12:28] <db92> wols: i dunno, i just normally used the livecd :|||
[12:28] <wols> kindofabuzz: it will install gtk. but you insist on foolishly installing X on a server so I don't have any pity on you
[12:28] <Csledge> wols, no, sorry sir, here is the Xorg.conf pastebin -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/34389/
[12:28] <db92> wols: nothing done wrong, yet :p
[12:28] <kindofabuzz> wols: no i don't want that.  then why did you recommend gparted earlier? lol
[12:28] <m4lmsteen> hm
[12:28] <wols> Csledge: make a backup of xorg.conf and edit it
[12:29] <wols> first thing to change is line 48
[12:29] <wols> Csledge: and from line 51 onwards delete ALL
[12:29] <kindofabuzz> so there is no way at all to expand a partition without a WM?
[12:29] <wols> kindofabuzz: there is. man parted
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> kindofabuzz: gparted is a giu for parted
[12:30] <Csledge> wosl, ty sir, is there some way to have the lines counted automatically
[12:30] <m4lmsteen> i'm installing ubuntu to run via terminal ive noticed 'apt-get' seems to depend on the cdrom a lot for package getting... will i be able to leave the cd in, does the ubuntu install screen have a time out ?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> m4lmsteen: remove the cd from your repositories
[12:31] <guido79> Guys, the distro with the preinstalled ltib has been provided me as a vmware image ! So, know anything about some vmware server for ubuntu ?
[12:31] <m4lmsteen> ActionParsnip... would you mind helping me with that ?
[12:31] <wols> m4lmsteen: edit your sources.list and remove the cdrom entries there. then apt-get won't ask for the cd anymore
[12:31] <Csledge> wosl, let me refrase, what program should i edit this file with
[12:31] <MiraiWarren0_0> Hi.  A weird thing happened when I copied my ubuntu partition...
[12:31] <jork> wich distro of linux is best ?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> !vmware | guido79
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> jork: depends on needs
[12:31] <wols> Csledge: your favourite editor. console or X?
[12:31] <wols> !best | jork
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> m4lmsteen: gksu synaptic
[12:32] <jork> ok
[12:32] <jork> sorry
[12:32] <db92> wols: all of a sudden, i just launched the installer and it all worked :\
[12:32] <bazhang> jork, please chat about this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> m4lmsteen: its in there if you modify sources
[12:32] <guido79> Ok, thanks !
[12:32] <Csledge> wols, ok im at line 48 i can just change it? to whatever i want?
[12:32] <m4lmsteen> ok... ill check it out... im updating the system right now
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> jork: if there was a @best@ we'd all use it
[12:32] <m4lmsteen> soon as this is done ill give it a go
[12:32] <MiraiWarren0_0> Now when I boot, the kernel of the original is used but the root filesystem is from the copy.
[12:32] <wols> Csledge: you can change it to what your monitor actually supports
[12:33] <Csledge> sudo edit Xorg.conf
[12:33] <Csledge> Warning: unknown mime-type for "Xorg.conf" -- using "application/*"
[12:33] <MiraiWarren0_0> What's up?
[12:33] <jork> cirentl i am using ubuntu
[12:33] <jork> curently*
[12:33] <m4lmsteen> Csledge are you having a problem with xserver not starting ?
[12:33] <wols> MiraiWarren0_0: you need to configure grub correctly
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Csledge: try gksu gedit xorg.conf
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Csledge: dont sudo for gui apps
[12:33] <Csledge> ActionParsnip, im in konsole
[12:33] <kindofabuzz> how do i list the size of a folder?
[12:33] <wols> MiraiWarren0_0: pastbein your menu.lst
[12:34] <wols> kindofabuzz: man du
[12:34] <MiraiWarren0_0> wols: I thought that might be it, something with the root command, but I am not sure what.
[12:34] <Slart> kindofabuzz: "du" is one command
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Csledge: fine :) just checkin
[12:34] <kindofabuzz> k
[12:34] <Csledge> ActionParsnip, im in konsole, is this a GUI
[12:34] <wols> MiraiWarren0_0: close. it's the # groot  one
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Csledge: no, sudo all the way
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Csledge: sudo nano xorg.conf
[12:34] <Slart> kindofabuzz: there is a gui app too.. something like disk usage analyzer or something
[12:34] <Csledge> ActionParsnip,  ok ty
[12:34]  * ActionParsnip loves nano
[12:35] <Csledge> wols, ok the Virtual 640 x 480
[12:35] <m4lmsteen> i like pico lol
[12:35] <wols> MiraiWarren0_0: what device is your new copy on and what is in your menu.lst
[12:35] <cary> how do i gain root so i can see a ntfs drive on my computer
[12:35] <wols> MiraiWarren0_0: pico is non-free and discontinued. doesn't exist anymore
[12:35] <Csledge> wols, ok the Virtual 640 x 480 , so i change that to the highest res my monitor can support, correct, then what about line 49
[12:35] <cary> i keep reading and nothing helps
[12:35] <wols> cary: you can't. there is no root
[12:35] <Slart> cary: you should be able to see your ntfs-drives even without being root
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> cary: you dont need root to see it
[12:36] <wols> cary: you need to mount the ntfs drive correctly (uid gid and umask options). then you can read and use the partition as a normal user
[12:36] <cary> i can see them but to open them i need root it says
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | cary
[12:36] <Slart> !ntfs-3g | cary
[12:36] <ra21vi> where is the tnsnames.ora after I installed the oracle client.. I could not *find* it and now I want to create a fresh one.. pleae let me knwo the path
[12:36] <Csledge> i have 24 inch monitor, i think its 2000 something x 1080 maybe????
[12:36] <wols> ra21vi: ask oracle, not us
[12:36] <cary> i did sudo apt get sux and it says authentication failed when i put in my password for root
[12:36] <Slart> cary: sudo asks for your *user* password.. not root password
[12:36] <wols> cary: there is no root password. so you cannot put in a password that does not exist
[12:36] <ra21vi> hmm ok
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> cary: then you are using the wrong password, check capslock or stuck shift ket
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> key*
[12:37] <cary> i already did the ntfs-3g and did not get any where
[12:37] <wols> cary: how did you mount the partition?
[12:37] <MiraiWarren0_0> wols: Well, the new copy is on /dev/sda5 the original is /dev/sda6
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> cary: thats how you write to the drive
[12:37] <wols> MiraiWarren0_0: and you want everything to use the new one? then do what I asked of you
[12:37] <Csledge> wols,  or is it my graphics card that determins that
[12:37] <MiraiWarren0_0> wols: What's that?
[12:37] <m4lmsteen> anyone here in use virtual machine ?
[12:37] <wols> Csledge: no
[12:37] <wols> MiraiWarren0_0: what is what?
[12:37] <Csledge> wols,  my monitor?
[12:38] <wols> !anyone | m4lmsteen
[12:38] <wols> Csledge: monitor and card together
[12:38] <MiraiWarren0_0> wols: What you asked of me
[12:38] <m4lmsteen> that is my real question
[12:38] <m4lmsteen> lol
[12:38] <bazhang> m4lmsteen, please ask; many here do
[12:38] <wols> MiraiWarren0_0: scroll up. I won't write it a third time
[12:38] <m4lmsteen> ok
[12:38] <m4lmsteen> how does virtual machine do running windows games ?
[12:38] <junkY_San> hi, i'm trying to install (k)ubuntu on a 2gb hd. is it possible to select packages during installation?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> m4lmsteen: badly
[12:39] <wols> m4lmsteen: badly
[12:39] <bazhang> m4lmsteen, it does not at the moment
[12:39] <jork> :D
[12:39] <bazhang> m4lmsteen, try wine instead
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> m4lmsteen: get wine or buy cedega
[12:39] <jork> try wit wine
[12:39] <soundray> e
[12:39] <MiraiWarren0_0> wols: Use groot?
[12:39] <Slart> junkY_San: I don't know if the minimal install might be something for you
[12:39] <wols> m4lmsteen: and you lied. your real question was about the windows games
[12:39] <Slart> !minimal | junkY_San
[12:39] <wols> MiraiWarren0_0: in the end yes among other things, but since you have no clue how, do what I told you
[12:39] <m4lmsteen> wols sorry lol, it was a real question.. just leading into the REAL one ok i admit it
[12:39] <m4lmsteen> lol
[12:40] <cullBo> hey. i suppose a server with the desktop version of ubuntu would suffice to run a gameserver for the weekend, right? thanks
[12:40] <wols> m4lmsteen: next time, immediately ask the REAL one. saves you time
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> junkY_San: id look at puppy or DSL
[12:40] <m4lmsteen> ok
[12:40] <wols> cullBo: yes
[12:40] <bazhang> !appdb | m4lmsteen check here
[12:40] <Keiro> >_>; Oh yeah.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> cullBo: yeah if its dedicated, depends on spec
[12:40] <Csledge> sudo nano Xorg.conf is empty.
[12:41] <wols> jork: use alternative install CD
[12:41] <wols> Csledge: Xorg.conf does not exist
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Csledge: its xorg.conf not Xorg.conf
[12:41] <Slart> Csledge: isn't it xorg.conf?
[12:41] <wols> Csledge: Linux is case sensitive. ALWAYS
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Csledge: linux is case sensitive
[12:41] <wols> junky: use alternative install CD
[12:42] <bazhang> !usb | junkY_San check here
[12:42] <junkY_San> ActionParsnip: it's a small notebook which came with ubuntu installed.
[12:42] <bazhang> junkY_San, which one
[12:42] <Csledge> wols,  its still empty
[12:42] <m4lmsteen> thanks bazhang
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> junkY_San: yeah?
[12:42] <junkY_San> bazhang: one a110
[12:42] <wols> Csledge: then you lied to me earlier when you pastebined it
[12:42] <cullBo> ActionParsnip: it's pretty good for a desktop, core2 2.4ghz, 2GB of ram
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> junkY_San: is it an eee pc per chance?
[12:42] <Csledge> wols,  i think im just editing it wrong
[12:42] <wols> ActionParsnip: it is a netbook yes
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> cullBo: yeah thats a fine server
[12:43] <junkY_San> ActionParsnip: something like that
[12:43] <cullBo> ok well, thanks wols and ActionParsnip :)
[12:43] <scribawf> How do I automatically get volume/mount privileges on my CD-R/RW when inserting a disc?
[12:43] <wols> scribawf: put "user" in its fstab line's options
[12:43] <wols> scribawf: should be there by default
[12:44] <keymouse_> الو؟
[12:44] <bazhang> keymouse_, english please
[12:44] <scribawf> wols; Tnx and do I just use gedit to edit the fstab?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> junkY_San: get puppy or xubuntu or DamnSmall
[12:44] <inflex> what's a really light-weight X based Ogg vorbis player?
[12:44] <mikael_> anyone know how I'd go about accessing a FakeRaid array running two NTFS drives (my windows drives), from Xubuntu?
[12:44] <wols> scribawf: yes. but CAREFULLY
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> scribawf: you'll need gksu
[12:44] <inflex> Rythmbox is a bit heavy...  WIth Fluxbox installed.
[12:45] <cary> sorry
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> inflex: gmplayer?
[12:45] <LItomoSilver> And so far, it is wonderful.
[12:45] <inflex> me really needs an X'ified CMUS :)
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> LItomoSilver: me too bro
[12:45] <LItomoSilver> A little disconcerting, but wonderful otherwise.
[12:45] <inflex> ActionParsnip: okay, I'll try gmplayer
[12:45] <Csledge> wols, ok i think i effectively changed xorg.conf
[12:45] <cary> well?
[12:46] <wols> Csledge: pastebin it again
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> inflex: why not use a non x one?
[12:46] <inflex> ActionParsnip: that's what CMUS is
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> cmus?
[12:46] <wols> cary: well, where is the answer to my question?
[12:46] <scribawf> Actionparsnip;  Gksu - ok will do!
[12:46] <inflex> ActionParsnip: but CMUS is a bit cryptic and I keep accidently having keypresses triggering new modes in it
[12:46] <alraune> !ask>cary
[12:46] <Csledge> !pastebin
[12:46] <junkY_San> ActionParsnip: i need a distribution for a linux beginner. is dsl the right thing?
[12:46] <inflex> ActionParsnip: yes, CMUS is a light weight, ogg/mp3 player for console use
[12:46] <wols> junkY_San: no
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> junkY_San: not massively
[12:46] <bazhang> junkY_San, ubuntu
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> junkY_San: xubuntu, its lighter
[12:47] <junkY_San> ActionParsnip: which desktop environment does xubuntu use?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> junkY_San: just avoid kde and yer ok
[12:47] <alraune> junkY_San: dsl is a very minimalized distro, not the best for a beignner, what hardware ?
[12:47] <wols> junkY_San: xfce
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> junkY_San: xfce
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> !xfce | junkY_San
[12:47] <LItomoSilver> junkY_San: That means Xubuntu.
[12:47] <LItomoSilver> >_>;
[12:47] <LItomoSilver> XD. Yeah I just said that. >_>;
[12:47] <junkY_San> thanks to all
[12:48] <icqnumber> what are equivalent commands for "cd .." and "cd ." ?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> icqnumber: same
[12:50] <bullgard4> "$ man gnome-display-properties; No manual entry for gnome-display-properties" Where can I obtain a manual about this command?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: try tab completing
[12:51] <r4b> guys, i'm looking to dual boot my xp laptop with ubuntu with a shared partition. It doesnt have a cd drive
[12:52] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: Is this the answer to my question? Please elaborate.
[12:52] <wols> bullgard4: packages.ubuntu.com  search there
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: instead of typing the whole thing, type some of the start then press tab
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: you can tab complete most things in the terminal
[12:52] <Csledge> wols # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
[12:52] <Csledge> #
[12:52] <Csledge> # This file was generated by failsafeDexconf, using
[12:52] <Csledge> # values from the debconf database and some overrides to use vesa mode.
[12:52] <Csledge> #
[12:52] <FloodBot2> Csledge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <Csledge> # You should use dexconf or another such tool for creating a "real" xorg.conf
[12:52] <Csledge> # For example:
[12:53] <bullgard4> wols: Before I pposted here I did search in packages.ubuntu.com. In packages.ubuntu.com there are no manuals listed.
[12:54] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: Please re-read the question which I have put and do'nt tell me things about tab completion which I already know.
[12:54] <l3d> what would or should i get that would unrar a rar
[12:54] <archman> connect efnet
[12:54] <archman> oops
[12:54] <Sherminator> http://mibssam.free.fr
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: then why ask me to elaborate on something you already knew
[12:54] <wols> bullgard4: there are. tons of manpages if you know how to search. apt-file is probably better suited to this search however
[12:54] <scribawf> where in fstab (on line) do I put "user" to obtain volume/mount privilges?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !rar | t3d
[12:55] <Csledge> i know that isnt the max.. but hopefully it can work for now
[12:55] <bullgard4> wols: Your general statement is wrong in the particular case which I have risen in my question.
[12:55] <Csledge> wols,  you said only change line 48
[12:55] <bazhang> bullgard4, please come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:55] <wols> Csledge: no. I said more than that
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> ActionParsnip: Bullguard: Try tab completing
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: ActionParsnip: Is this the answer to my question? Please elaborate.
[12:55] <Csledge> wols, and delete everything after line 51
[12:56] <alraune> scribawf: next to the filesystem
[12:57] <darwin_> anyone having problems with aMSN?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> darwin_: in what way?
[12:57] <darwin_> won't connect
[12:57] <Csledge> wols,  your a nice person for helping so many ppl.. thanks
[12:57] <wols> Csledge: you really don't know me, do you?
[12:57] <Csledge> wols, its good that you support free software.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> darwin_: im getting the same bag with pidgin connecting to msn in windows
[12:58] <Csledge> wols,  what are you trying to just mess with me"?
[12:58] <alraune> scribawf: /dev/sda1        /any           ext3     rw,user,auto              0       0
[12:58] <db92> alright i managed to install, now how can i update to the latest kernel? from synaptic?
[12:58] <scribawf> alraune;  I have a line looking like <Filesystem> - That be it?
[12:58] <wols> db92: select the kernel you want to install, and do it
[12:58] <alraune> scribawf: paste your fstab, will look...
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> db92: no idea in synaptic, id use sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:58] <Csledge> wols, no i dont know you.. but i trust
[12:58] <scribawf> alrauns;  Ah, OK that looks like the place it should be!
[12:59] <Ayabara> anyone got the WD MyBook Mirror Edition? I'm wondering if the RAID1 stuff is taken care of in HW so I can buy one, set it up in Windows (with the WD config util), then reboot into Ubuntu and format it to ext3.
[12:59] <darwin_> can't connect using amsn but i CAN using kopete or pidgin
[12:59] <alraune> scribawf: ?
[12:59] <Csledge> wols, what now?
[12:59] <Ayabara> (and live happily ever after)
[12:59] <db92> should i ever compile my own kernel or just prefer the updates from the repos?
[12:59] <wols> Csledge: that is positively foolish
[12:59] <wols> Csledge: what do you mean "what now"? is your X running in the res you want?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> darwin_: what settings do you have in pidgin for msn?
[13:00] <darwin_> weird same thing is happening home, I'm at the office now
[13:00] <darwin_> pidgin works fine ActionParsnip
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> darwin_: ok, maybe you need to use http method
[13:00] <darwin_> default msn settings, though
[13:00] <scribawf> alrauns;  here's my line I need to work with in fstab   /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 default 0       0
[13:00] <darwin_> just did
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> darwin_: not sure about amsn
[13:01] <darwin_> note that the problem lays on AMsn
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> darwin_: http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2962&highlight=
[13:02] <LItomoSilver> Bah.
[13:02] <LItomoSilver> Still no sound. -_-;
[13:02] <LItomoSilver> I'm running Ubuntu 8.04. With Fluxbox installed.
[13:02] <db92> LItomoSilver, brief me up, i know a bit of stuff about sound
[13:02] <alraune> scribawf: nick is alraune | /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[13:02] <Csledge> wols, no.
[13:02] <LItomoSilver> No sounds at all and I've noticed that while I have a Creative Soundblaster card, it is showing as... Ensoniq. Something like that.
[13:03] <Csledge> wols, i simply changed the config file, now what do i do, i dont want to mess anything else up
[13:03] <wols> restart X
[13:03] <db92> LItomoSilver, you sure its soundblaster?
[13:03] <wolfeySI> hello is there a way to get newest amsn through ubuntu package?
[13:03] <LItomoSilver> I have disabled the onboard audio, which is Intel because I cannot get direct access to the sound port.
[13:03] <db92> LItomoSilver, and for example, not an xfi? :P
[13:03] <LItomoSilver> Quite sure. >_>; Otherwise the soundcard in Windows wouldn't come up as CREATIVE Soundblaster PCI Card.
[13:03] <wols> LItomoSilver: linux doesn't show useless brandnames but the actual chips used
[13:03] <scribawf> alraune; Sorry on ur nick , thank you will put that in
[13:03] <LItomoSilver> >>; <<;
[13:03] <soundray> wolfeySI: not unless it's in backports or proposed
[13:03] <soundray> !backports > wolfeySI
[13:03] <wols> and yes, SB PCI cards use ensoniq 1371 or so
[13:03] <alraune> scribawf: is it a cd or dvd ?
[13:04] <LItomoSilver> Ah.
[13:04] <LItomoSilver> Makes sense as to why it shows up as Ensoniq. >_>;
[13:04] <LItomoSilver> Still doesn't help with me getting the damn thing to work. I know it works in Windows XP.
[13:04] <LItomoSilver> I also have the lmod, I think it was, dmesg output.
[13:05] <LItomoSilver> Oh no. lsmod dmesg snd
[13:05] <LItomoSilver> >_>
[13:05] <kelvin911> how to update amsn?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: how do you mean?
[13:05] <kelvin911> amsn said it has new version
[13:05] <scribawf> alraune;  during gedit (usking) gksu wouldn't allow me to save changes, where am I lost in this process?
[13:05] <remoteCTR1> what service do i have to install in order to have the system update date and time over the internet?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:05] <kelvin911> and i can no longer send file to my friend with amsn
[13:06] <alraune> scribawf: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[13:06] <wolfeySI> soundray: problem is 0.97 doesnt connect at all now
[13:06] <LItomoSilver> .
[13:06] <wolfeySI> 0.97.2 should, #amsn says
[13:06] <scribawf> alraune; CD R/RW
[13:06] <LItomoSilver> Oh yeah. >_>;
[13:06] <wols> remoteCTR1: an ntp server
[13:06] <wolfeySI> soundray: and it's not in backports
[13:06] <kelvin911> and my amsn is not connecting
[13:06] <remoteCTR1> wols: thanks!
[13:06] <wolfeySI> soundray: this is kind of 'urgent'
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> alraune: use gksu for gui apps like gedit, not sudo
[13:06] <kelvin911> what is the command?
[13:06] <kelvin911> sudo apt-get upgrade amsn ??
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:06] <wolfeySI> soundray: i can compile it manually
[13:06] <LItomoSilver> kelvin911: try sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:07] <wolfeySI> soundray: but not all can
[13:07] <scribawf> alraune; OK  uh I would think I should know that! Still lost in syntax after Win
[13:07] <soundray> wolfeySI: there isn't even an upstream fix for that, as far as I can tell
[13:07] <kelvin911> nothing to upgrade
[13:07] <LItomoSilver> I'll remember that particular command for Fluxbuntu, since it hasn't been updated to 8.04.
[13:07] <wolfeySI> soundray: #amsn says 0.97.2 helps with connection problems
[13:07] <wolfeySI> soundray: ubuntu has 0.97.0
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: then download the .deb from amsns website
[13:07] <alraune> ActionParsnip:   scribawf: alraune;  during gedit (usking) gksu wouldn't allow me to save changes, where am I lost in this process?
[13:08] <kelvin911> can i sudo apt-get install amsn?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: yes
[13:08] <soundray> kelvin911: sure, but you will get version 0.97.0
[13:08] <alraune> scribawf: when saved n closed, : mount -a
[13:08] <kelvin911> i hae 0.97
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> alraune: sudo doesnt set up the environment for gui apps and can harm permissions and ownership
[13:08] <kelvin911> install wont install the newest version?
[13:08] <wolfeySI> kelvin911: i've been trying to connect for over an hour now with it
[13:08] <wolfeySI> kelvin911: nope
[13:09] <wolfeySI> kelvin911: ubuntu as always is lagging behind
[13:09] <alraune> ActionParsnip:   for fstab ?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: id download the deb from amsn's site
[13:09] <kelvin911> also pidgin cant send file to my friend anymore, how to fix that?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> alraune: yes, for any file
[13:09] <scribawf> alraune;  working on gedit to fstab now will do after close/saving fstab? is that correct?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: update pidgin
[13:09] <LItomoSilver> Wouldn't sudo necessarily override any permissions and ownerships?
[13:09] <kelvin911> how to update pidgin?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> wols: you got that link on sudo for gui apps please
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:10] <concretesledge> wols, no still the same res
[13:10] <kelvin911> sudo apt-get upgrade doesnt upgrade
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: or download the .deb from pidgin's website
[13:11] <alraune> scribawf: when saved and closed, : mount -a
[13:11] <scribawf> alraune; PERFECT!! :) Tnx Alot, been bugging me alot helps when get sytntax correct
[13:11] <wols> concretesledge: the finally paste your Xorg.0.log as I asked hours ago or stop bothering me
[13:11] <concretesledge> wols,  i already did
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> scribawf: or rebbot
[13:12] <concretesledge> wols,  scroll up
[13:12] <alraune> scribawf: everybod's learning from evryone, lol,nice
[13:12] <pepe_swash> is there a way to import a massive image count in fspot (over 7500 raw image files) without having fspot generating thumbnails? I mean it would take DAYS to even let it select all files.
[13:12] <remoteCTR1> how do i change the output ftom the date command from UTC to CEST?
[13:12] <scribawf> alraune;  ON a learning curve (all over again!) kinda like Old DPS days!
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> alraune: thats why its called a community
[13:12] <wols> concretesledge: you did not
[13:12] <kelvin911> http://www.amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php
[13:12] <kelvin911> which one i should download?
[13:12] <scribawf> alraune; that is DOS Daze!
[13:13] <kelvin911> what is Tcl/Tk 8.4 Tcl/Tk 8.5 ??
[13:13] <wols> Rebecca2: set the correct timezone
[13:13] <wols> kelvin911: a script language and a GUI library
[13:13] <Rebecca2> My audio isn't working. I can play sound in my browser, but not in any of my media players. (Yes, they have the correct codecs)
[13:13] <LItomoSilver> Ok, so, how would I find out exactly where the problem for not being able to hear sound come from? >/
[13:13] <kelvin911> which one i should pick?
[13:13] <Rebecca2> wols: I beg your pardon?
[13:13] <wols> Rebecca2: sorry, was for remoteCTR1
[13:13] <Rebecca2> Okies
[13:13] <wols> remoteCTR1: set the correct timezone
[13:14] <histo> !sound > LItomoSilver
[13:14] <db92> grub doesnt show my windows partition ;_;
[13:14] <histo> !grub > db92
[13:14] <wols> db92: then edit your menu.lst correctly
[13:14] <Rebecca2> BhaalWK. <3 Halp?
[13:14] <lucas2> hey.  I got my wireless to work.  I'm now trying to get it to auto start on boot.
[13:14] <concretesledge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/34386/
[13:14] <db92> wols, easier said than done, i dont even remember what was there :||
[13:14] <nurettin> hello
[13:14] <wols> db92: did you fudge with it?
[13:14] <histo> lucas2: use the network manager applet in gnome
[13:14] <LItomoSilver> Bah. I think I'm gonna have to change interfaces, seeing as I'm using Fluxbox.
[13:14] <nurettin> i cant connect msn with amsn
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: do you ave aMSN 0.97.2
[13:15] <LItomoSilver> But I'll check those links out. >_____>;
[13:15] <nurettin> i cant connect msn with amsn
[13:15] <Indoctrine> nurettin: I'm having that issue too
[13:15] <db92> wols, no it just wasnt in the menu.lst in the first place :p
[13:15] <wols> !info amsn
[13:15] <db92> its how i noticed :p
[13:15] <kelvin911> i dont have 0.97.2
[13:15] <concretesledge> or do you mean again
[13:15] <Indoctrine> My audio isn't working. I can play sound in my browser, but not in any of my media players. (Yes, they have the correct codecs)
[13:15] <kelvin911> i have 0.97.0
[13:15] <nurettin> Indoctrine: me too
[13:15] <nurettin> why ???
[13:15] <wols> db92: if you had a windows partition before you started the installed put an entry there
[13:15] <concretesledge> wols, or do you mean paste it after the xorg.conf edit
[13:15] <lucas2> histo: I'm trying to use that.  my wireless only starts working as I set my connection to nonroaming, and then back to roaming.    before that it doesn't work.
[13:15] <lucas2> I'm hoping that rings a bell for somebody
[13:15] <wols> concretesledge: I asked for the Xorg.0.log. read more carefully what I write
[13:15] <histo> lucas2: roaming?   I just click on a network and it works
[13:15] <nurettin> Indoctrine: i am using ubuntu 7.10 with amsn please help.
[13:15] <alraune>  Indoctrine: alsamixer installed ?
[13:16] <Indoctrine> Lemme check
[13:16] <darwin_> won't work
[13:16] <wols> nurettin: update to hardy I guess
[13:16] <histo> lucas2: it should attempt to click on the last network your were connected to.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: get the http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn-0.97.2-1.tcl84.x86.package
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> i gotta split kids
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> peace out
[13:16] <darwin_> I don't have a proxi, there must be a amsn bug
[13:16] <nurettin> wols: i dont want hary
[13:16] <lucas2> histo: is there a way to make it do that automatically on startup?
[13:16] <nurettin> wols: i dont want hardy
[13:17] <wols> nurettin: then you gottal live without msn connection I guess. have a nice day
[13:17] <histo> lucas2: you can just not use network manager and add the settings perminently
[13:17] <histo> !wireless > lucas2
[13:17] <soundray> nurettin: there is no fix for amsn connection problems in ubuntu yet (not even in hardy)
[13:17] <nurettin> wols: i love very much 7.10
[13:17] <lucas2> histo: thnx
[13:17] <concretesledge> wols, http://paste.ubuntu.com/34386/
[13:17] <Indoctrine> alraune: alsamixergui? That's the only package I can find
[13:18] <nurettin> wols: 8.04 is very slowly and have bugs.
[13:18] <alraune>  Indoctrine: yup
[13:18] <nurettin> wols: 8.04 not stable.
[13:18] <mrynit> my dell inspiron 1420 is having fan issues in 8.04
[13:18] <rw> I just want to check something with other ubuntu 8.04.1 users. In synaptic -> settings -> repositories, has the interface changed? I'm getting a totally different layout (without tabs). There is just a "new " button in the top left.
[13:18] <wols> concretesledge: seems you didn't edit xorg.conf very well: II) NVIDIA(0):     "640x480@60"
[13:18] <rw> bottom left*
[13:18] <alraune>  Indoctrine: or for the whole : sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-firmware-loaders alsa-oss alsa-source alsa-tools	alsa-tools-gui	alsa-utils alsamixergui
[13:19] <Indoctrine> Uhh
[13:19] <Indoctrine> Do I NEED all of them? alraune
[13:19] <concretesledge> wols, i only did what you said.
[13:19] <concretesledge> wols,  changed line 48.. only.
[13:20] <Indoctrine> alraune: Still not working after installing the mixer
[13:20] <concretesledge> SIR.
[13:20] <wols> concretesledge: you can lay off the ass kissing
[13:20] <LItomoSilver> Ok, at least it's detecting my soundcard properly. >____>;
[13:20] <wols> concretesledge: pastebing your current xorg.conf
[13:20] <lucas2> histo: was that link supposed to contain any info related to starting wireless on systemboot?
[13:20] <mrynit> !language
[13:20] <Indoctrine> Looks more like sarcasm to me.
[13:20] <alraune>  Indoctrine: can you start the mixergui ?
[13:20] <Indoctrine> Yes'm
[13:21] <wols> Indoctrine: could be. I am still undecided and giving him the benefit of the doubt
[13:21] <m4lmsteen> !language | wols
[13:21] <m4lmsteen> LOL
[13:21] <histo> lucas2: you basically need to stop network manager from loading and configure your wireless with iwconfig
[13:21] <rw> Nobodies repository inferface in synaptic has changed?
[13:21] <concretesledge> i edited the xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[13:21] <wols> histo: not ifconfig. /etc/network/interfaces then
[13:21] <Indoctrine> Another thing is that any media player I try to play music in, stops responding when I try, alraune
[13:22] <wols> histo: *iwconfig
[13:22] <concretesledge> wols, http://paste.ubuntu.com/34401/
[13:22] <alraune>  Indoctrine: can you start the alsamixergui ?
[13:22] <chattan> Hi Guys
[13:22] <Indoctrine> alraune: It's open
[13:22] <histo> wols: ?  can you specify a channel and essid in interfaces?
[13:22] <Ayabara> Some of my wmv's have a horisontal green bar in Ubuntu, and play fine in Windows. Anyone got an idea?
[13:22] <alraune>  Indoctrine: see your soundcard in there?
[13:22] <wols> "Virtual640480
[13:22] <bazhang> Ayabara, disable compiz
[13:22] <concretesledge> ok..
[13:22] <nurettin> Indoctrine: what will you do amsn
[13:22] <concretesledge> joakim!
[13:22] <nurettin> Indoctrine: what will you do amsn
[13:22] <nurettin> Indoctrine: what will you do amsn
[13:22] <concretesledge> come back!
[13:22] <concretesledge> dont repeat dude
[13:23] <wols> concretesledge: why is that line there?
[13:23] <alraune>  Indoctrine: see your soundcard in there? in the top of the mixer-gui ?
[13:23] <Indoctrine> alraune: Yes'm. HDA Intel Realtek ALC268
[13:23] <bazhang> concretesledge, please stop
[13:23] <r4b> is anybody free to help me with partitioning my xp laptop through the ubuntu installer? I'm not entirely sure what to do
[13:23] <Indoctrine> I can't get it to work either, nurettin don't ask me.
[13:23] <concretesledge> bazhang, sorry sir
[13:23] <db92> remind me how i can make computer and trash appear? where is the gconf-editor entry?
[13:23] <alraune>  Indoctrine: so worst part is up, audio files, using amarok ?
[13:23] <LItomoSilver> Oh fargh. XD Well, let's see if this works. Be back in a bit.
[13:23] <Ayabara> bazhang: In kde 4.1 now, and using the desktop effects from kwin
[13:23] <concretesledge> wols, should i delete it or change it to the resolution
[13:23] <histo> db92: apps > nautilus > desktop
[13:23] <bazhang> Indoctrine, have you checked sound prefs and used alsa instead of pulse
[13:23] <Indoctrine> alraune: Tried using Rhythmbox, Amarok AND VLC to no avail. All freeze.
[13:24] <wols> concretesledge: delete. and I'm undecided about the modeline yet
[13:24] <alraune>  Indoctrine: hardy ?  your hardware ?
[13:24] <r4b> anybody?
[13:24] <Indoctrine> bazhang: It automatically uses alsa, I've tried restarting alsa, etc.
[13:24] <nurettin> I DON'T WANT CHANGE MY VERSION 7.10
[13:24] <Indoctrine> alraune: Hardy, yes.
[13:24] <bazhang> Indoctrine, they freeze? that sounds more serious
[13:24] <bazhang> nurettin, then dont and please disable caps
[13:24] <alraune> !ask>r4b
[13:24] <alraune>  Indoctrine:   your hardware ?
[13:25] <alraune>  Indoctrine:   paste output from : lspci
[13:25] <Indoctrine> alraune: What about my hardware? My speakers work just fine with sound in Firefox
[13:25] <nurettin> bazhang: ok exceuse me but i want use amsn but icant user.
[13:25] <nurettin> bazhang: ok exceuse me but i want use amsn but icant use.
[13:25] <bazhang> r4b, you need to be more specific about what you want to do
[13:25] <bazhang> nurettin, please clarify your issue
[13:25] <Indoctrine> alraune: Okies.
[13:26] <r4b> i would like to shrink the xp partition so i can dual boot with ubuntu and have a shared partiton
[13:26] <Indoctrine> !pastebin
[13:26] <alraune>  Indoctrine:   did the sound work out of the box ? what files (e.g. wma)  you try to play ?
[13:26] <wols> bazhang: his feisty amsn is not connecting to msn anymore
[13:26] <r4b> i dont have a cd drive so i'm running ubuntu on a liveusb
[13:26] <Indoctrine> alraune: It was working the other day.
[13:26] <bazhang> r4b, then the manual partitioner
[13:26] <wols> r4b: run gparted
[13:26] <r4b> yes, i have that and it shows 3
[13:26] <bazhang> wols, thanks
[13:26] <samuraj> How can I "integrate" file-roller with Gnome (add it to the context menu)?
[13:26] <r4b> sda1 sda2 and sdb1
[13:26] <Indoctrine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/34405/
[13:27] <Indoctrine> alraune: http://paste.ubuntu.com/34405/
[13:27] <r4b> should I assume the largest (sda2 76873 MB) is XP and resize it?
[13:27] <Indoctrine> Ew, it makes me look like a huge Intel fan.
[13:27] <wols> r4b: no. boot XP and check which one is which
[13:28] <DRebellion> r4b, sda1/2 is the first hard drive, sdb is the second hard drive.
[13:28] <alraune>  Indoctrine:   did you try reinstalling amarok ?         what files (e.g. wma)  you try to play ?   updated/-grated system ?
[13:28] <r4b> well the others are 3150mb and 4026 mb
[13:28] <DRebellion> r4b, run sudo fdisk -l to see how they are formatted.
[13:28] <Indoctrine> alraune: Any file, MP3, WMA, MP4.
[13:28] <r4b> sda1 and sdb1 are fat32
[13:29] <r4b> sda2 is ntfs
[13:29] <Kartagis> hoşçakalın / bye
[13:29] <Indoctrine> alraune: Haven't reinstalled amarok, BUT it happens with VLC and Rhythmbox as well
[13:29] <alraune>  Indoctrine:   sudo apt-get remove amarok && apt-get install amarok && apt get update && apt get upgrade
[13:29] <r4b> can i assume sdb1, 4026 mb is my 4GB usb drive?
[13:30] <alraune> r4b: yup
[13:30] <Indoctrine> Btw, alraune I installed VLC today and it freezes
[13:30] <DRebellion> r4b, i would say that sda2 is your windows install.
[13:30] <alraune>  Indoctrine:      updated/-grated system ?
[13:30] <Indoctrine> alraune: What does that mean? -.-
[13:30] <DRebellion> r4b, just mount it and take a look.
[13:30] <r4b> when i try to edit sda2 i can enter a size then there is a menu "use as" what should I enter there?
[13:31] <alraune>  Indoctrine:   sudo apt get update && apt get upgrade
[13:31] <alraune>  Indoctrine:   sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade                      , sry
[13:31] <Indoctrine> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[13:31] <Indoctrine> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[13:31] <Indoctrine> -.-
[13:31] <adi_smg> rrrr
[13:31] <bazhang> adi_smg, english please
[13:31] <adi_smg> ffffffffffffffffff
[13:31] <Indoctrine> And now amarok has disappeared
[13:32] <bazhang> adi_smg, please dont
[13:32] <kindofabuzz> what's a good /boot partition size?
[13:32] <kindofabuzz> but minimal
[13:32] <adi_smg> fufyji
[13:32] <r4b> for editing the XP partiton should I leave it as "do not use this partiton"?
[13:32] <alraune>  Indoctrine:   sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade                      ,packetmanager(Synaptic) still open ?
[13:32] <Indoctrine> alraune: Apt-getting it
[13:32] <r4b> *partition
[13:33] <rever> Hi I need some help with a bash script. I am trying to run a command that requires a password. I need the command ran then wait then pass the password. Is this possible?
[13:33] <histo> kindofabuzz: do you really need a seperate /boot   ?
[13:33] <rever> Also is there a way to secure the password inside the script?
[13:33] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  k, then  sudo apt-get remove amarok && sudo apt-get install amarok
[13:33] <kindofabuzz> histo: always good to have
[13:33] <Kardoso> hi
[13:33] <Indoctrine> alraune: I just uninstalled and reinstalled it anyway.
[13:33] <adi_smg> rrrrr
[13:33] <db92> im trying to ./configure something but i get /bin/sh: Can't open ./configure any clues?
[13:33] <bazhang> adi_smg, stop
[13:33] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  k, then  apps>multimedia  >> no amarok ??
[13:34] <histo> kindofabuzz: well I have 88M in mine right now.  I think the server installer creates a 255mb one
[13:34] <kindofabuzz> histo: i guess i don't really need one, but reinstalling my server and just thought it would be better
[13:34] <iqson716> my DVDwriter tools doesn't work properly.for write a data dvd 2 hours required
[13:34] <wols> Indoctrine: don't forget config files. purge
[13:34] <TuxPWNZ> How do I start the dcopserver program?
[13:34] <Indoctrine> Tis there now, seeing as I had to do two seperate commands to reinstall it. alraune
[13:34] <cary> if i cann't get access to sux command does that mean someone has penetrated my linux and manipulated my root to that particular drive
[13:34] <newbe1> Need a question answered about xubuntu  Anyone   Thanks
[13:34] <Indoctrine> wols: How?
[13:34] <wols> Indoctrine: man apt-get
[13:34] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  playing now ?
[13:34] <kindofabuzz> sux command?
[13:34] <cary> i need it so i can move my movies over to xp so i can stream them through my xbox
[13:35] <concretesledge> wols, sorry got disconnected
[13:35] <kindofabuzz> cary: the user you're using may not be in the sudoers file
[13:35] <Indoctrine> alraune: Frozen again.
[13:35] <cary> my password works for every other administrator task
[13:35] <kindofabuzz> cary: and why not just stream them from ubuntu? pleanty of ways
[13:35] <cary> this smells fish
[13:35] <cary> fishy
[13:35] <happynobita> hello, i'm having some trouble installing 8.04. my laptop is a japanese FMV Biblo nb18d/. i'm trying to install from a disk. when the disk starts up, i click 'Install Ubuntu', the load screen pops up, i'm greeted to the background of the bird, and then nothing. it just sits with a blank background and all i can do is move the mouse. i think the laptop is kinda old, could this be a problem?
[13:36] <Kardoso> I want to install Ubuntu to my old computer, because that computer is unusable now from the lot of viruses.       Config: 1 GB RAM, 5 GB free space, very slow videocard. I dont want to store my work there. Guys please help me in the choice! Which would better for that computer, Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[13:36] <ikonia> cary: what package is the sux command in ?
[13:36] <newbe1> Need a question answered about xubuntu  Anyone   Thanks  Private Message Me
[13:36] <kindofabuzz> cary: you may not have the right permissions in windows if copying to windows
[13:36] <histo> kindofabuzz: the only reason to keep it seperate is so that it won't fill up /
[13:36] <ikonia> newbe1: ask in the channel rather than people pm'ing you
[13:36] <vozniakBR> Kardoso: xubuntu of course
[13:36] <Indoctrine> Kardoso: Probably Xubuntu, smaller and requires less resources.
[13:36] <newbe1> I did No reply
[13:36] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  try : sudo  apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras && apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r)
[13:36] <cary> its not allowing m eto mount the drive
[13:36] <ikonia> newbe1: then be patient
[13:36] <cary> not to modify in windows
[13:36] <newbe1> Need a question answered about xubuntu  Anyone   Thanks
[13:36] <cary> i just want to mount it up
[13:37] <Indoctrine> alraune: I did say I've got the codecs.
[13:37] <ikonia> newbe1: ask the question
[13:37] <Kardoso> VozniakBR, Indoctrine: Thanks. I will try
[13:37] <ikonia> cary: what command are you trying to use ?
[13:37] <kenkku> Kardoso: what cpu does it have? a slow video card doesn't really make it necessary to use xubuntu
[13:37] <kindofabuzz> cary: do it through linux: http://lifehacker.com/392336/stream-music-from-ubuntu-to-an-xbox-360
[13:37] <cary> and then send my files to where i can convert them to hd and watch them on 360
[13:37] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  try : freezing is not a codec problem...
[13:37] <kenkku> Kardoso: if it has 1 GB of ram, it will probably run ubuntu quite well
[13:37] <Kardoso> kenkku: Intel Celeron 4,00 Ghz
[13:37] <ikonia> cary: what command are you trying to use
[13:37] <kindofabuzz> you think only windows can do it or something?
[13:37] <vozniakBR> Kardoso: ubuntu will run fine in this machine, but disk space are critical there.
[13:37] <cary> well i tried sux
[13:37] <Indoctrine> Well I have restricted extras.
[13:37] <ikonia> cary: I'm not aware of a command called "sux"
[13:37] <Kardoso> kenkku: I worry about the winchester. Its very very slow.
[13:37] <kindofabuzz> sux lol
[13:38] <kindofabuzz> try sudo
[13:38] <kenkku> Kardoso: winchester?
[13:38] <ikonia> cary: why are you using an X11 session controller ?
[13:38] <kelvin911> how to make amsn use different pic for different account?
[13:38] <ikonia> cary: what do you want to do - exactly ?
[13:38] <Kardoso> kenkku: yes
[13:38] <kindofabuzz> cary: http://lifehacker.com/392336/stream-music-from-ubuntu-to-an-xbox-360
[13:38] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  is it a desktop or laptop ?
[13:38] <kelvin911> amsn always uses the picture from the previous login account
[13:38] <kenkku> Kardoso: I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you mean by that
[13:38] <Indoctrine> alraune: Laptop
[13:38] <cary> i tried i just want to dual boot so i can have everything to sell
[13:38] <Kardoso> kenkku: I mean hard drive
[13:39] <ikonia> cary: your not making any sense
[13:39] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  when did you install hardy ?
[13:39] <vozniakBR> kenkku: winchester = hard disk
[13:39] <cary> linux is my personal workshop but windows has goood stuff for other people
[13:39] <Indoctrine> alraune: I'm running off a portable HD if that helps. Probably a week and a half ago
[13:39] <Kardoso> kenkku: because its five years old
[13:39] <ikonia> cary: do you have a question, yes or no ?
[13:39] <kenkku> vozniakBR: woot, cool, in what language? :D
[13:39] <Prophion> hello
[13:39] <kindofabuzz> cary: so what's your question? lol
[13:39] <kenkku> Kardoso: I would doubt that it matters that much. five years is fairly old though
[13:40] <cary> yea i tried ntfs-g and it still would not allow me to gain access to the ntfs drive
[13:40] <vozniakBR> kenkku: i don't know, its a old term
[13:40] <ikonia> cary: what command did you use ?
[13:40] <Kardoso> Kenkku: I think too. But Linux is the last way to make it usable.
[13:40] <houbuntu> hey everyone, I am in Houston, Texas, and ignore the news reports..... Tropical Storm Edouard is a joke! It is raining lightly and the wind "may" be blowing 10 mph. The eye of the storm is within 30 miles! What a joke!
[13:40] <ikonia> !offtopic | houbuntu
[13:40] <adi_smg> gf
[13:40] <adi_smg> l
[13:40] <kenkku> Kardoso: I would almost recommend ubuntu, although I don't have much experience with slower machines.
[13:40] <concretesledge> wols, thanks i figured it out
[13:41] <adi_smg> g
[13:41] <Indoctrine> alraune: Did that, Amarok has decided to freeze again
[13:41] <Kardoso> Kenkku: Should I try Xubuntu then?
[13:41] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  the files you try to play, aare they on that external drive ? tried a cd instaed ?
[13:41] <kenkku> Kardoso: I don't think you'd lose much even if you did use xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[13:41] <Indoctrine> alraune: They're in /home/beck/music/ So yes. On the drive.
[13:42] <Indoctrine> alraune: I don't... think I have any CDs laying around.
[13:42] <utnubudnai> hey all,can .pl files accept argument from a terminal?
[13:42] <kenkku> Kardoso: you can always make it into an ubuntu if you like
[13:42] <ikonia> utnubudnai: depends on the script
[13:42] <Kardoso> Kenkku: Ok, thanks.
[13:42] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  did you check the ubu-installer cd for defects ?
[13:42] <utnubudnai> ikonia, is $ARGV[1] right?
[13:42] <happynobita> hmm, browsing the forums and can't really find a similar problem. gonna try the alternate install. i think the ram on the laptop is around 256. is this too low for ubuntu?
[13:43] <ikonia> utnubudnai: that means nothing
[13:43] <Kardoso> Kenkku: Has Xubuntu any remote desktop servers? I want to connect to it from remote.
[13:43] <Indoctrine> alraune: When I burned it in PowerISO on Windows, I got it to check the disc, I also burned at lowest speed to make sure it was accurate.
[13:43] <C0p3rn1c> hi
[13:43] <newbe1> Need a question answered about xubuntu  Anyone   Thanks
[13:43] <ikonia> newbe1: ask the question
[13:43] <Indoctrine> Don't ask to ask
[13:43] <wols> happynobita: use xubunut. even if it does work you won't be happy
[13:43] <utnubudnai> so ikonia ,what should i do to get an argument from a console?
[13:44] <happynobita> wols: k, gonna give that a try. what's the difference between the two?
[13:44] <C0p3rn1c> I've bin trying to fix my usb support for weeks now, can somebody help me please?(detailed description: http://paste.ubuntu.com/34410/)
[13:44] <ikonia> utnubudnai: write a script that takes input from the console
[13:44] <utnubudnai> i mean what should the script be like?
[13:44] <ikonia> utnubudnai: depends on what your writing
[13:44] <utnubudnai> ikonia, I mean how
[13:44] <r4b> ok, i ran gparted instead of using the installer's partitoner. It's installing now. Ty for the help
[13:44] <ikonia> utnubudnai: you want to do this in perl ?
[13:44] <Kardoso> Does Xubuntu supports the pendrives and USB based hard disk (mobile HDD) ?
[13:44] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  did you check the ubu-installer cd for defects ?  the option when booting cd ?
[13:44] <newbe1> OK I have two tabs showing in the task bar at the bottom of the screen  when i open a program
[13:44] <ikonia> utnubudnai: there are various guides on the internet on basics of perl
[13:44] <Indoctrine> alraune: No, but as I said, it was working just fine a couple of days ago
[13:44] <utnubudnai> ikonia, yes,I have to do this under perl!
[13:45] <unop> utnubudnai, in perl you check the @ARGV array
[13:45] <ikonia> utnubudnai: ok, check the guides/docs/forums for perl, there is tons of info out there
[13:45] <C0p3rn1c> Kardoso: I don't know about xubuntu but ubuntu does
[13:45] <kenkku> Kardoso: you can install the same programs in xubuntu as you can in ubuntu
[13:45] <ikonia> newbe1: ok ?
[13:45] <Indoctrine> alraune: And this was only a transient problem in the past few days that could be fixed by rebooting. Rebooting doesn't work now
[13:45] <wols> Kardoso: of course it does
[13:45] <Kardoso> wols: thanks
[13:46] <Kardoso> kenkku: wow! really??? great!
[13:46] <adi_smg> uyyhjy
[13:46] <adi_smg> jh
[13:46] <adi_smg> h
[13:46] <adi_smg> h
[13:46] <adi_smg> h
[13:46] <adi_smg> h
[13:46] <FloodBot2> adi_smg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <adi_smg> h
[13:46] <Kardoso> !flood > adi_smg
[13:47] <kenkku> Kardoso: yes, they have the same repositories. the only difference is what comes on the cd
[13:47] <|ns|nR8> amsn wont login, tried uninstalling and deleting .amsn folder in home directory, then reinstalling..no good .any ideas ?
[13:47] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  can you acces the internal hd ?
[13:47] <cowok> ghhfhg
[13:47] <Kardoso> kenkku: great! thank you
[13:47] <Indoctrine> alraune: From Ubuntu? Yeah...
[13:48] <Indoctrine> alraune: Not write though because it's NTFS
[13:48] <C0p3rn1c> can somebody help me with usb flash drive troubleshooting?
[13:48] <C0p3rn1c> I've bin trying to fix my usb support for weeks now (detailed description: http://paste.ubuntu.com/34410/)
[13:48] <adi_smg> j
[13:49] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[13:49] <Indoctrine> alraune: What difference will this make to my audio problems?
[13:49] <soundray> C0p3rn1c: have you tried the device in another computer?
[13:49] <alraune>  Indoctrine: I try to figure out the freezing problem by some tests...
[13:49] <C0p3rn1c> soundray: yes, works fine
[13:50] <Indoctrine> Already installed, alraune
[13:50] <kenkku> is it just me or are there lots of reports about usb flash drives not working in hardy?
[13:50] <kenkku> it seems that they pop up constantly here
[13:50] <soundray> C0p3rn1c: have you tried plugging it into other sockets
[13:50] <ikonia> kenkku: no, it's just you
[13:50] <soundray> ?
[13:50] <C0p3rn1c> soundray: yup
[13:50] <kenkku> ikonia: okay :P
[13:51] <kelvin911> amsn 0.97.2 still cant send a file
[13:51] <soundray> C0p3rn1c: are you seeing this with just this one device, or have you had trouble with other USB gadgets?
[13:51] <C0p3rn1c> soundray: I also tried my usb hard disk
[13:51] <soundray> kelvin911: thank MSN for locking out amsn users
[13:51] <soundray> C0p3rn1c: and?
[13:51] <Indoctrine> alraune: My sound is still working in my browser. Therefore not a hardware prob.
[13:51] <wers> how do I make windows overlap the panel?
[13:51] <anticraptastic> im getting the following error when i try to test sound, any clues? http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8996/76433121uz4.jpg
[13:52] <alraune>  Indoctrine:  see pm
[13:52] <C0p3rn1c> soundray: dident work
[13:52] <soundray> C0p3rn1c: that kind of narrows it down to your USB host. Is it a laptop?
[13:52] <Kardoso> !flood > adi_smg
[13:52] <alraune> anticraptastic:sound driver not installed
[13:52] <kelvin911> ??
[13:52] <anticraptastic> alraune, cant be, i just did :\\\\
[13:53] <anticraptastic> alraune, of course i didnt restart :P
[13:53] <C0p3rn1c> soundray: no it's a pc
[13:53] <kelvin911> soundray: actually the file went thru to my friend but amsn gets an error
[13:53] <C0p3rn1c> I just tried again with my usb hard disk : usb 5-1: device not accepting address 24, error -71
[13:53] <soundray> C0p3rn1c: is it the integrated USB of your motherboard, or do you have a PCI USB adapter?
[13:54] <newbe1> Question about Xubuntu I have two tabs showing in the task bar at the bottom of the screen  when i open a program
[13:54] <C0p3rn1c> soundray : motherboard
[13:54] <ikonia> newbe1: ok - why is that a problem ?
[13:54] <anticraptastic> alraune, restarting and ill brb to let you know if that couldve possibly been the issue :|
[13:54] <soundray> C0p3rn1c: are you running Ubuntu natively, or in VMware or something like that?
[13:55] <newbe1> ikonia  why two of the same program
[13:55] <C0p3rn1c> soundray: natively
[13:55] <ikonia> newbe1: are you double clicking the program to start it ?
[13:55] <newbe1> ikonia  no
[13:56] <azharcs> guys need help with restoring panels in Ubuntu 8.04
[13:56] <ikonia> newbe1: so your single clicking a program and it's opening 2 applications ?
[13:56] <C0p3rn1c> does my config look ok? because it has bin a while sins I messed around with linux
[13:56] <C0p3rn1c> kinda flying blind here =)
[13:56] <soundray> C0p3rn1c: there are two things I would suggest: 1) look in the BIOS setup for any USB-related settings. Some have a toggle called "legacy mode" or similar. Change that and see if it helps. 2) If not, spend 5 or 10 Euros on a four-port PCI USB card and disable your motherboard USB.
[13:57] <azharcs> Ubuntu is not showing panels and other GUI stuff but i can access CLI
[13:57] <newbe1> ikonia  gnome  works ok
[13:57] <ikonia> newbe1: so your single clicking a program and it's opening 2 applications ?
[13:57] <C0p3rn1c> soundray, i tried option 1 so ...
[13:57] <azharcs> how do i restore the panels and buttons in Ubuntu now
[13:57] <newbe1> ikonia  no just two tabs at bottom of screen
[13:58] <ikonia> newbe1: what are the titles of the tabs ?
[13:58] <newbe1> ikonia  same
[13:59] <ikonia> newbe1: which is ?
[13:59] <newbe1> ikonia  what ever i open
[13:59] <ikonia> newbe1: how are you launching these applications
[14:00] <Lillymon> God DAMN that's a lot of users.
[14:00] <newbe1> ikonia  right click then launch
[14:00] <chrislees> Is it possible to connect a wireless router via Ethernet to your computer in order to access another wireless connection, if your wireless card doesn't work?
[14:01] <ikonia> newbe1: thats most off
[14:01] <ikonia> odd
[14:01] <ikonia> newbe1: I would log a bug for that
[14:01] <soundray> chrislees: yes, but only if you can configure your router to work in bridging mode
[14:01] <kunwon1> Where can I get the new wallpaper with the heron on it?
[14:02] <kunwon1> (Other than upgrading my system :) )
[14:02] <ikonia> kunwon1: gnome-look.org has wallpapers in it
[14:02] <C0p3rn1c> soundray: thanks for your help anyways
[14:02] <kunwon1> ikonia, I'm looking for the new default wallpaper in hardy
[14:02] <chrislees> soundray: Wicked, I gather Ubuntu would just see this as a direct connection to the second router?
[14:02] <ikonia> kunwon1: install hardy, and it's in there
[14:02] <kunwon1> ikonia, I want to get it without installing hardy :D
[14:02] <newbe1> ikonia  bug  how is that done
[14:03] <ikonia> kunwon1: post in the forums, I'm sure someone will upload it
[14:03] <ikonia> !launchpad > newbe1
[14:03] <soundray> chrislees: ubuntu will treat this as a LAN connection and will be agnostic about it otherwise
[14:04] <chrislees> soundray: Thanks for the confirmation, I'll see if this procedure can help my friend :-)
[14:04] <chrislees> Bye
[14:05] <fiXXXerMet> How can I display workspace #2 on a second monitor?
[14:05] <chimaera> Hi,  anyone using a powerbook? i have trouble getting frequency-scaling to ork properly.
[14:05] <ikonia> fiXXXerMet: switchers doesnt work like that
[14:05] <fiXXXerMet> ikonia: what do you mean?