I can use command line in a console.
[00:02] <kimberly> but
[00:02] <TeruFSX2> What's the workaround for getting wxMaxima to show its menu bar in the window?
[00:02] <lcabreza2> RicCrouch: im planning to setup a wifi network at home and want my neighbors to pay for the service ..
[00:02] <TeruFSX2> i'm using KDESC and i don't have the unity menu
[00:02] <min|dvir|us> Cong: I don't think it's so ridiculous.
[00:02] <ahmad> hello everyone :)
[00:02] <Guest51616> 6/help
[00:02] <kimberly> just using that before did not work
[00:03] <TeruFSX2> kimberly: what went wrong while trying to install
[00:03] <Cong> min|dvir|us, I thought he wanted people to open a web browser before they even connected.
[00:03] <TeruFSX2> (win 7 that is)
[00:04] <Smackbook> how can I test and find out why ubuntu isn't recognizing my usb wifi adapter?  I got the drivers before and compiled them and installed them, and it was working fine until I unplugged it and now no amount of uninstalling/installing/unplugging/replugging/rebooting seems to make any difference.  any suggestions?
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> kimberly, Personally I don't allow windows to make a boot partition. So I just make a single ntfs with a boot flag with gparted then use the manual instal with the windows disc, sda1 is a boot partition and has the boot flag as of now and sda2 is the OS.
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> The boot partition is needed for the encryption in the ultimate version, and or if there is a recovery partition I use neither.
[00:06] <DaemonicApathy> lcabreza2: This might interest you - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZoneCD
[00:07] <lcabreza2> DaemonicApathy:i'll try this one ..
[00:12] <RicCrouch> Smackbook:  Had a similar problem with my wired adapter... does your wifi adapter show up when you run ifconfig from the terminal?
[00:12] <Smackbook> nope
[00:12] <Smackbook> RicCrouch: it did when it was working
[00:15] <planetary> I need help getting my computer out of a very low resolution. I cant find commands to change it
[00:15] <Noobuntu> any solutions for cpu overheating problems?
[00:15] <wols> Smackbook: what does dmesg say after you plugged in your usb wlan stick?
[00:15] <wols> planetary: what videocard do you have?
[00:15] <wols> Noobuntu: buy a better heatsink
[00:16] <Noobuntu> i have a dual boot system
[00:16] <lcabreza2> Noobuntu: buy Larkooler water cooling system
[00:16] <Noobuntu> windows 7 works fine
[00:16] <planetary> wols: I idnt remember, Im helping my uncle on the phone! :0
[00:16] <Noobuntu> but even when I am not doing any heavy operations my CPU heats up on Ubuntu
[00:17] <wols> planetary: then tell your uncle to install ssh, so you can log on to his PC and do it for him (imho)
[00:17] <wols> or tell him to come online himself
[00:17] <Noobuntu> its just a laptop I use for basic day to day tasks - nothing fancy
[00:17] <DaemonicApathy> Noobuntu: You should install and run htop to check out what might be overusing it.
[00:17] <wols> Noobuntu: if your CPU overheats, it's NOT a ubuntu problem. the same would happen under windows when you actually use your PC then
[00:17] <DaemonicApathy> Noobuntu: I would suggest the System Monitor, but that tends to be a little heavy itself.
[00:18] <Noobuntu> wols: I have never faced overheating issues on Windows
[00:18] <Noobuntu> in Ubuntu, it goes up to even 100 degrees
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> Noobuntu, I would at the least install the sensors from this wiki's instructions to confirm it is overheating rather then you assume this from the fans running, as you give no real details here.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[00:18] <wols> Noobuntu: optimus?
[00:19] <Noobuntu> wilee-nilee: reasons to believe its over heating: a) It feels really really hot
[00:19] <Noobuntu> b) Conky tells me the temperature is close to 100
[00:20] <Noobuntu> wols: sorry, didn't get your question..
[00:20] <TeruFSX2> how old is your machine?
[00:20] <Noobuntu> 1.5 years
[00:20] <TeruFSX2> i'm assuming it's pretty recent, yeah
[00:20] <TeruFSX2> what processor type?
[00:20] <Noobuntu> intel i3
[00:20] <wols> Noobuntu: does it use nvidia optimus?
[00:21] <Noobuntu> its an HP v6t machine
[00:21] <Noobuntu> no graphic cards
[00:21] <Cong> laptops aren't for gaming
[00:21] <Noobuntu> just the one that comes wiith the chip
[00:21] <Smackbook> wols: is there a way to clear dmesg output so I can tell where the new stuff starts?
[00:21] <Noobuntu> I don't use it for gaming
[00:21] <wols> Smackbook: no. and it's not needed either
[00:22] <Noobuntu> like I said, it heats up even when I am browsing
[00:22] <wols> Smackbook: the new stuff is added at the end
[00:22] <Smackbook> wols seems like pages and pages of stuff
[00:22] <Noobuntu> if I open up a few extra tabs
[00:22] <Smackbook> related to the usb wifi
[00:22] <wols> Smackbook: yes. those are logs and in your case most likely errors
[00:23] <alecb> what's the name of the applet that displays the volume control?
[00:23] <TeruFSX2> the dv6t does not have optimus
[00:24] <Smackbook> wols: http://pastebin.com/bV4uX1RE
[00:25] <trism> alecb: indicator-sound ?
[00:25] <trism> alecb: sort of depends which desktop you run
[00:25] <TeruFSX2> actually it does appear to have optimus-like technology
[00:26] <TeruFSX2> Noobuntu: the dv6t uses some gpu-swapping things that aren't supported that well right now
[00:26] <josy1982> ubuntu is the best distribution!
[00:27] <wols> Smackbook: most likely [59582.997871] wlan0: 00:1c:10:8a:87:e6 denied association (code=12)  WPA password correct?
[00:27] <snark> Smackbook, this command " dmesg | tails 5 "     gives the last 5 new lines from dmesg
[00:28] <Noobuntu> TeruFSX2: thank you for the information. Is there any way to make things a bit better maybe?
[00:28] <TeruFSX2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics might give some tips, but i'm not sure if 3D acceleration works with this
[00:29] <wols> !powertop
[00:29] <snark> Smackbook, this command " dmesg | tail "    (this one is correct! )
[00:29] <alecb> trism: I'm referring to the one that runs in unity I guess. like I run nm-applet to get the network indicator as a tray icon in any wm with a tray app
[00:29] <wols> Noobuntu: use powertop as well
[00:29] <alecb> is there something I can run to get any of the other indicators
[00:29] <Noobuntu> thanks guys. Let me see if anything works for me
[00:30] <dr_willis> Theres a list of addaditonal indicator-applets at the askubuntu.com site.
[00:30] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[00:31] <trism> alecb: yeah most indicators don't work like that, indicator-sound loads when the panel starts
[00:40] <somsip> !test
[00:40] <martinette-> hello,
[00:41] <RicCrouch> I know that sometimes with Realtek cards you have to blacklist a driver that gets in the way--I think that is what this accomplishes
[00:41] <martinette-> i know it is a ubuntu channel...but can i talk in private with soneone who has good knowledge about it
[00:42] <RicCrouch> (oops.. wrong window! :)  )
[00:42] <dr_willis> about what martinette- ?
[00:44] <zymaster> Ok quick question. So I just installed Ubuntu. I have a 750g hard drive and wanted to give ubuntu 300g and windows 450g but due to the lack of info the Ubuntu installer gave I accidentally gave Ubuntu the 450g and windows the 300g. I am currently inside my ubuntu boot disk so I can mess with my partitions without using them. I am currently in gparted and I was able to shrink my file system down to what it is supposed to be, but now
[00:44] <martinette-> well, last time I installed uuntu...I had to reinstall windows...due to some mistake i did...with GNU (i think its the name of the dual boot soft to boot either windows or ubuntu)
[00:44] <zymaster> unallocated space in the partition that has the swap and the file sytem within it
[00:44] <martinette-> my question is can i install ubuntu with out installing gnu....but but on windows or unbuntu if in plug my usb key
[00:45] <zymaster> I can not resize this partition even after i checked swapoff on the swap partition
[00:45] <dr_willis> zymaster:  if you have logical partions inside an extended partion. you may need to shrink them first.. then shrink the extended partition. then enlarge the primary
[00:45] <joeeeee> hey may i ask ?
[00:45] <dr_willis> zymaster:  i always just use primary partions. ;)
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, Are you trying to resize a partiton yuou are booted into?
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> partition*
[00:45] <dr_willis> martinette-:  you mean with out installing the GRUB bootloader?
[00:46] <zymaster> dr_willis: I have 1.5g unallocated space in my exteded martition but I can't resize it to move the unallocated space out to the main hard drive so I can use it to resize windows
[00:46] <dr_willis> martinette-:  you can do a full install of ubuntu onto a decently sized usb flash drive. including GRUB on the MBR of the flash drive
[00:46] <zymaster> willee-nillee: I am booted into an ubuntu boot disk so I have no partitions mounted
[00:46] <dr_willis> zymaster:  i recall getting space out of a extended into a primary was doable. but tool like 2 to 3 steps.
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, Sorry you addressed that already can you take a screen shot of gparted and imagebin it.
[00:47] <dr_willis> i always use primaries so its been ages since ive had to do this.
[00:47] <zymaster> wilee-nillee: forgot the screenshot shortcut what is it again?
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, prtsc
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> the key
[00:48] <martinette-> yeah grub sorry
[00:49] <martinette-> just by setting my laptop boot sequence with ubs drive 1 and second hard drive
[00:50] <Klamir> Hello, im getting a error when installing gstream in ubuntu 12.10 > http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301577/ ... how can I verify if this packages are installed ? how can I install if necessary ?
[00:50] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: Ok GParted screenshot: http://imagebin.org/233030
[00:51] <trism> Klamir: libglib2.0-dev
[00:52] <t1ckt0ck> @Klamir apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[00:52] <Klamir> Thx ! It worked !
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, So you want the Windows partition bigger right?
[00:53] <zymaster> Yeah I want to make it bigger with the unallocated space in the extended partition
[00:53] <zymaster> Mainly just get the unallocated space to the primary hard drive
[00:53] <zymaster> thx by the way
[00:54] <snark> zymaster, your swap is inside the extended partioion so you could delete it
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, No bigie it will take awhile though. YOU should of resized ubuntu to the roght, but you can m,ove the whole partition to the right with the resize button, then right click the extended in the menu and resize it up against the ubuntu partition the the unallocated will be next to the windows fro it to exspand into.
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> sorry for the spelling erors DOH.
[00:55] <goddard> i have a program I cant see
[00:55] <goddard> it is launched but it must be off the screen
[00:56] <martinette-> my question is can i install ubuntu with out installing gnu....but but on windows or unbuntu if in plug my usb key just by setting my laptop boot sequence with ubs drive 1 and second hard drive
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, Just for information you could make a NTFS in that unallocated now and windows will see and and you can use it.
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> you could have that ntfs be a shared partition for media....etc
[00:58] <yeehi> Hello! I am installing calibre, the ebook manager - i need to specify an installation directory. What should I use?
[00:58] <DaemonicApathy> Is there any real benefit to NTFS over FAT?
[00:58] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: it wont allow me to resize extended partition. I can click resize but cant change the volume at all
[00:58] <snark> wilee-nilee, he want to expant the current windows partition
[00:58] <RicCrouch> Martinette--As mentioned above, I think you mean GRUB, not GNU.  And yes, you can.  Check this out:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/liveusb-install-not-just-another-live-usb-creator-for-linux
[00:58] <loadid> is there a default yeehi?
[00:58] <snark> wilee-nilee, he want to expand* the current windows partition
[00:58] <yeehi> i think ntfs is journaling, DaemonicApathy
[00:58] <yeehi> no default, loadid
[00:58] <yeehi> lets you go anywhere
[00:59] <martinette->  yes imeant grub
[00:59] <zymaster> snark: thx too
[00:59] <yeehi> where is the usual installation folder for new programs?
[00:59] <martinette-> thank you
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, It is up against the ubuntu  on the left you have to move the ubuntu to the right, the whole partition at once.
[00:59] <loadid> yeehi: /bin
[00:59] <snark> DaemonicApathy, fie size limit on FAT
[00:59] <RicCrouch> Martinette-better yet, look here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811397
[00:59] <yeehi> thanks, loadid! i will specify /bin and hoep for the best!
[01:00] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, ofc snark. I knew I was forgetting something. Thanks.
[01:00] <loadid> yeehi, maybe a subdirectory in /bin
[01:00] <loadid> in case it's installing a lot of files
[01:00] <goddard> i have a program I cant see
[01:00] <goddard> it is launched but it must be off the screen
[01:00] <loadid> yeehi: maybe a subdirectory in your /home folder
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> snark, I know I am telling them how to get that unallocated next to windows in order to do this the ubuntu has to be moved against the swap then the extended up against the left end of the ubuntu.
[01:01] <PatrickDickey> goddard, you can click on the workspace switcher to see if it's in another workspace.
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> zymaster,YOU can move the ubuntu partition as a whole to the right.
[01:01] <goddard> PatrickDickey: it is not present when i click that icon
[01:01] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: what do you mean move to the right? Sorry didnt understand. And by Ubuntu do you mean the whole extended partition or the file system?
[01:01] <goddard> in gnome shell i can see all applications
[01:01] <t1ckt0ck> @goddard are you trying to find it or kill it?
[01:02] <goddard> t1ckt0ck: im trying to find it
[01:02] <PatrickDickey> goddard, open System Monitor and make sure it's actually running.
[01:02] <goddard> i think it is loaded off screen so i cant see it
[01:02] <goddard> PatrickDickey: it is
[01:02] <goddard> its netbeans
[01:02] <snark> zymaster, would you be up for deleting the ext4 partition?    much faster then
[01:03] <PatrickDickey> goddard, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, Click on the resize, you can move the whole sda5 to be up against the swap, then using the resize again on the extended move it up against the ubuntu.
[01:03] <goddard> 12.10
[01:03]  * PatrickDickey hasn't installed Netbeans yet, but I may just to see if I have this issue.
[01:03] <dem0n> how is everyone doing today...?
[01:03] <goddard> PatrickDickey: i have multiple displays
[01:04] <t1ckt0ck> @goddard have you tried simply killing the process and restarting it?
[01:04] <PatrickDickey> goddard, is it on any of them?
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> zymaster,Basically you are first moving tha unallocated to be in front of the sda5 then resizing the extended to be against the ubuntu then the unallocated will be next to the windows.
[01:04] <goddard> t1ckt0ck: i can see the program and close it and open it with the toolbar
[01:04] <goddard> PatrickDickey: no and i disconnect them and reconnect them and it doesn't work
[01:05] <t1ckt0ck> Just no gui...
[01:05] <snark> zymaster, you say you have *just*  installed Ubuntu so why not trash it and start again
[01:05]  * PatrickDickey wonders if it thinks it's on a display, but that isn't the right one anymore...
[01:05] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: Ok it worked
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, No sure what worked but moving the whole ubuntu partition should take awhile.
[01:06] <kevin____> hi all. so i need to reconfigure grub2. it looks like my bootloader was overwritten by windows (sigh...) .  i am currently booted in a livecd. how can i reconfigure grub?
[01:06] <goddard> this sucks i gotta get some work done
[01:07] <PatrickDickey> !grub | kevin____
[01:07] <kevin____> wonderful. thanks
[01:07] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: It was practically instant, maybe because I haven't really put anything on ubuntu partition yet other than the os
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> kevin____, You ever chrooted before?
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, cool, so you understand the process then.
[01:08] <zymaster> anyway it worked thx all
[01:08] <t1ckt0ck> Goddard. Have you tried alt-f8 or f7 to resize or move net beans?
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> goddard, you could try rebooting and then opening it. I'm trying to remember what I've had to do in that situation, but it's been a while. I think I had to disconnect all the other displays, reboot, open the app, and then I could reconnect everything.
[01:08] <snark> zymaster, as long as its worked and your happy!
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> goddard, I'd try t1ckt0ck 's suggestion first.
[01:09] <bretolius> I installed 12.10 and everything was going okay.
[01:09] <bretolius> I then installed the nvidia drivers
[01:09] <bretolius> now when I retart, the screen is in this weird zoomed in low res mode
[01:09] <bretolius> and there is no unity interface when I log in
[01:09] <bretolius> just the desktio
[01:09] <bretolius> desktop*
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> !enter > bretolius
[01:09] <loadid> bretolius: sudo nvidia-settings
[01:09] <PatrickDickey> bretolius: did you install them through ubuntu or from nvidia.com's site?
[01:09] <loadid> can you change the resolution from there?
[01:10] <goddard> PatrickDickey: what suggestion killing the process?
[01:10] <JayLoSkee> Hello Room.  I've been using Ubuntu exclusively for 6 months.  Still new to Linux. Upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday.  Process was smooth.  However I lost functionality of the VirtualBox application. I really need this working!  Every time I try to start my virtual machine I get the error "  p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vb
[01:10] <JayLoSkee> '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'
[01:10] <JayLoSkee> as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary."
[01:10] <PatrickDickey> goddard alt+F8 or alt+F7 to resize netbeans.
[01:10] <bretolius> loadid: no, no launchbar is shown wilee-nilee: i used the ubuntu installer
[01:10] <t1ckt0ck> goddard: trying your alt f keys
[01:10] <loadid> JayLoSkee: run /etc/ini.d/vboxdrv setup as root
[01:10] <JayLoSkee> Help me ubuntu   you're my only hope
[01:11] <bretolius> wilee-nilee: or loadid do you know how I could launch the software sources from terminal?
[01:11] <PatrickDickey> JayLoSkee to build on what lodid said, type sudo /etc/ini.d/vboxdrv in a terminal and then put your password in.
[01:11] <bretolius> I would like to just roll back the driver
[01:11] <loadid> bretolius: sources are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <kevin____> alright. looks like it worked. thanks a..
[01:12] <kevin____> all*
[01:12] <loadid> but that's not where your problem is
[01:12] <JayLoSkee> okay...trying it now
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> bretolius, I'm not in 12.10 right now but I would just access it from the software center
[01:12] <bretolius> loadid: I can launch some gui apps
[01:12] <bretolius> ok
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> bretolius software-center will launch the Software Center.
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> edit-software sources in the software center bretolius
[01:13] <loadid> bretolius: you don't need to roll back a driver, you just need to install the correct one.  or perhaps configure the one your using... with nvidia-settings
[01:13] <bretolius> I want to roll back to the X.Org for a moment
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> bretolius: which video card do you have?
[01:14] <bretolius> I have an nvida 260
[01:14] <JayLoSkee> Patrick....... My terminal returns "sudo: /etc/ini.d/vboxdrv: command not found"
[01:14] <bretolius> its not just a resolution issue
[01:14] <bretolius> its like unity isnt launching or something
[01:14] <loadid> you typed something wrong JayLoSkee
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> JayLoSkee, Are you running in root?
[01:15] <PatrickDickey> JayLoSkee: try sudo ./etc/ini.d/vboxdrv instead.
[01:15] <loadid> JayLoSkee: learn to use tab complete
[01:15] <loadid> you have no ini.d directory
[01:15] <physically_fit> guys why 12.10 doesn't appear in my update manager? i've been waiting, but wikipedia says it was released on 10/18. what should i do?
[01:16] <bretolius> loadid: PatrickDickey and wilee-nilee: I tried the current update nvidia drivers, ill try the tested ones next...
[01:16] <ardchoille> should be /etc/init.d
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> And JayLoSkee did you install dkms like it recommends?
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> physically_fit, Go to the software sources and set it for all upgrades
[01:16] <loadid> physically_fit: update-manager -d
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> lodid, I think he's copying your command from earlier (which I mistakenly copied and pasted to him).
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> bretolius, I know nothing about this area, just a heads up.
[01:17] <ai9371> 987
[01:17] <loadid> you're right, i see that now
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> physically_fit, ubuntu software center-edit-software sources
[01:17] <physically_fit> wilee-nilee, i only have not proposed uncheked
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: Open Software Sources. On the "Updates" tab, change the notify me of new versions from LTS to "any" and it will prompt you after reloading.
[01:17] <physically_fit> loadid, why isn't automatic?
[01:18] <loadid> JayLoSkee: see where it errors and says "run  '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root".... do that
[01:18] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: The default is Long Term Services only because typically the intermediates are "beta" versions. (I use that term VERY loosely).
[01:18] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, loadid, wilee-nilee got it! thank friends.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> physically_fit, updates tab bottom drop down set it to for any new version
[01:18] <loadid> you only asked if the software was upaded to the currect repositories physically_fit
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> physically_fit, cool
[01:19] <loadid> you didn't ask it to look at alternate repositories... i.e. 12.10 instead of 12.04
[01:19] <JayLoSkee> loadid....whats the command for root?  is it su?
[01:19] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: make sure you read the release notes first.
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> JayLoSkee, sudo -i
[01:19] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, why?
[01:20] <JayLoSkee> thanks willie.....hold on guys
[01:20] <drworm> if you want to run a command as root, use "sudo <command>"
[01:20] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, i just update
[01:20] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: because if you're using an older ATI card, you might run into issues.
[01:20] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, oh no, i am using an ATI indeed.
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> and always be backed up
[01:21] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: which card is it?
[01:21] <drworm> if you have an older ATI card, you'll have to download and install the previous legacy drivers
[01:21] <JayLoSkee> thanks for the reminder....i'm in root now...next step?
[01:21] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, thanlks for warning
[01:21] <loadid> JayLoSkee: see where it errors and says "run  '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root".... do that
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[01:21] <PatrickDickey> drworm do they work now? When I upgraded, I lost all of the panels on Unity. I had to purge the proprietary drivers. Now everything is slow.
[01:22] <drworm> PatrickDickey, yes they work.
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> lol like there is not enough on the web to find that.
[01:22] <rocktop> hello is tcp_window_scaling best for network performance ?
[01:22] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey,  ATI Radeon Mobility X1400
[01:22] <drworm> Purge the fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> drworm do you have steps (or a link to steps) for getting them installed?
[01:23] <drworm> Yeah, one sec.  Let me find the link.
[01:23] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, it's in my laptop i use for everything, watch movies connected to my tv.
[01:24] <Rempala> in 10.04 how do i disable the screen blanking from the console? (I do not have X installed)
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> you might not have a problem then physically_fit. I upgraded my laptop and it worked. My desktop however.....
[01:24] <JayLoSkee> loadid.........no dice here is a copy of my shell. tell me where i'm wrong
[01:24] <JayLoSkee> /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[01:24] <cerberusXX> Hello, need help with Broadcom driver here, anyone??
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | cerberusXX
[01:24] <JayLoSkee> /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[01:24] <loadid> what's the error JayLoSkee?
[01:25] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, friend, i have an older desktop with ubuntu too. what thing didn't work in your desktop?
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> cerberusXX, Not sure if you had seen that link, otherwise I can't help.
[01:25] <cerberusXX> i have done what's said there already wilee_nilee
[01:25] <JayLoSkee> no such file or directory
[01:25] <drworm> PatrickDickey, go to unixmen.com and the article on how to install the legacy 12.6 ATI drivers with 12.10 is there.
[01:25] <PatrickDickey> Unity didn't work right. I didn't have any panels at all (top or side).
[01:25] <drworm> Running 12.10 with an older ATI card myself and it's working.  :)
[01:26] <drworm> For the record, it's not an Ubuntu problem, per se...
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> drworm do I have to get out of unity first?
[01:26] <loadid> i still say you're typing something wrong JayLoSkee
[01:26] <cerberusXX> this is macbook 8.2 with latest lts, driver wont show up anywere. im stuck to a wall consequently
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> Nope, it's an ATI problem. They don't want to support their older cards on X.Org 11.
[01:26] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, now i am getting scared... but i'll update anyway both machines XD
[01:27] <loadid> ohh.. JayLoSkee exit out of root and run as sudo
[01:27] <drworm> nope.  purge fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle, reboot and then install the 12.6 drivers from AMD's site.
[01:27] <eankele> JayLoSkee - had the same problem yesterday - check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue
[01:27] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: Do the laptop first (back it up before you start though). If it works, then do the desktop.  Don't do them at the same time.
[01:27] <JayLoSkee> loadid....verify the command with "" please
[01:27] <loadid> "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"
[01:27] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, yeah i won't, i'll need the interwebs to search for help just in case...
[01:28] <loadid> but don't be logged in as root JayLoSkee, just run as root
[01:28] <ahmad> quick question the 'sudo apt-get -y install build-essentials' also installs gcc compiler?
[01:28] <cerberusXX> if a recent macbook can't even get a wifi driver i donno what can
[01:28] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: I can't emphasize the backup first part enough though. If it doesn't work, you may have to reinstall 12.04 (or whatever version you're on now).
[01:29] <ChrisPartridge> I've added two users to my system, both with adduser - one user can run a process which outputs to stdout fine, the other user recieves an error "Error: Unable to write to destination" - any clues as to where I can start looking to trouble shoot this?
[01:29] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, thanks friend for all your advices, you are so nice :)
[01:29] <t1ckt0ck> @PatrickDickey. You're fighting the good fight here. Thanks for being available.
[01:29] <loadid> make sure the second user is part of the stdout group t1ckt0ck?
[01:29] <drworm> ChrisPartridge, are the user directories being created properly in /home?
[01:30] <ChrisPartridge> drworm: Yeah both have home directories
[01:30] <dem0n> hey guys any time you use dd it automatically formats whatever drive it is writing to right? like i wrote an image file to my sdcard and dd gave me an input/output error and i did it again but i didn't format my sdcard because dd would do that for me, am i correct?
[01:30] <loadid> dd does not format
[01:31] <dem0n> doesn't it erase everything on the sdcard drive?
[01:31] <loadid> dd clones a disk sector for sector, bad sectors and all
[01:31] <PatrickDickey> t1ckt0ck: no problem. I don't know a lot, but I try to help when I can.
[01:31] <JayLoSkee> loadid....updating my dkms package w/ linux kernal image....i'll try it again in just a minute
[01:31] <PatrickDickey> drworm, did you use the ppa method on your card, or did you download the script from ati's site?
[01:31] <ahmad> i guess so, the answer is yes :P
[01:31] <loadid> JayLoSkee: vbox needs reconfigured around the new kernel you installed, that's why this process is necessary
[01:31] <JayLoSkee> thks eankele hope this works :)
[01:31] <drworm> PatrickDickey, I downloaded the drivers from AIT's site
[01:32] <loadid> it should JayLoSkee
[01:32] <PatrickDickey> I'll try it in the morning. Time to leave for work now...
[01:32] <loadid> not sure why that setup isn't availble while rooted
[01:32] <trism> ahmad: for future reference with packages like that: apt-cache depends package_name; helps
[01:32] <drworm> Have a good day/night at work!
[01:32] <ahmad> ty trism
[01:34] <bretolius> So the package maintainers effed up nvida settings i guess http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12303179#post12303179
[01:35] <dem0n> see what i am wondering is i have an sdcard drive and i am trying to write and lubuntu image to my sdcard drive with dd, so i ran dd and the first time it gave me an input output error and records in and records out where off by 1 sector, so i ran it again but i did not format the sdcard drive because i thought dd would do that for me (format as erase the bad image file) and when i ran it the second time it i believe everything worked, the records in match th
[01:35] <dem0n> i hope you guys can understand what i am asking...
[01:35] <gh0st_> i <3 ubuntu!
[01:36] <yatoyato> gh0st_: Me too! :)
[01:36] <drworm> me too, gh0st_!
[01:36] <JayLoSkee> updated dkms package w/ linux kernal image upgrade....ran command again but no luck....should i try to uninstall vbox then reinstall?
[01:36] <dem0n> this is the output that i recieved from dd
[01:36] <dem0n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301627/
[01:36] <gh0st_> Ubuntu Server/backtrack is all you need! :D
[01:36] <bretolius> anyone else getting modem-manager caught signal 15 on shutdown errors?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> gh0st_: why backtrack?
[01:37] <gh0st_> because i use it
[01:37] <gh0st_> and like it alot :D
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> gh0st_: I hope not for casual browsing and so forth
[01:38] <drworm> dem0n, are you trying to make a bootable flash drive?
[01:38] <gh0st_> nah
[01:38] <gh0st_> action: im a student in security
[01:38] <gh0st_> thats why
[01:38] <gh0st_> great learning distro :D
[01:38] <lotuspsychje> any known issues on 12.10 install from usb, freeze just before partition section?
[01:39] <dem0n> drworm: yes, i have a mini pc -> mk802 3rd generation which runs natively on the android 4.0 operating system but i am trying to get ubuntu working on my mini pc the mk802
[01:39] <dem0n> gh0st_: where are you a student in "security" ?
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> !ot | dem0n
[01:40] <Calisto94> One question: Which NTFS driver is included to Ubuntu 12.04? Is it ntfs-3g? And: It supports writing to NTFS, but i was told it'
[01:40] <Calisto94> + is just experimental
[01:40] <Calisto94> Is it safe to write on NTFS with Linux already?
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | Calisto94
[01:41] <Calisto94> Okay
[01:41] <Calisto94> !ntfs-3g
[01:41] <dem0n> well my question is really just dd, which i believe is on topic for ubuntu as far as general questions, but let me know if dd is considered "off topic"
[01:41] <kfed> Muon isn't working for me and I can't seem to download any packages
[01:41] <Calisto94> !fuse
[01:41] <kfed> Whether from within Muon or using apt-get on the terminal
[01:41] <Calisto94> Hm
[01:41] <xrs1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lowlatency/+bug/1068660    recommended fix has no effect. New updates installed today and now when i plug my thumbdrive in it just blinks repetitively and doesnt stop. no icon appears on desktop. gparted reports the drive as unallocated with a red triagle w/ !
[01:42] <kfed> My internet connection is fine, and I have tried changing the server it retreives packages from
[01:42] <Calisto94> Okay, from the link i followed i'm told "NTFS-writing is experimental but already meant to be safe on Linux. It just sometimes causes an error and aborts - then the user needs totry again
[01:42] <Calisto94> My question was answered :)
[01:42] <Calisto94> thx
[01:43] <sazawal> The minimode plugin in exaile <IP_ADDRESS> in Ubuntu 12.10 does not remember its position. Help!
[01:43] <kfed> but in Muon I always get the error message "Failed to download http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources"
[01:43] <loadid> kfed, try changing the main server in your edit software sources
[01:44] <loadid> or disable that specific repo and deal without the upgrades of the ubuntu extras
[01:44] <dlw> ubuntu install failed, can only access via install CD, need help to figure out what went wrong
[01:45] <end_guy> I've recently updated to Ubuntu 12.10 and while upgrading I recieved errors installing some packages. Now everytime I have updates it errors with this: https://gist.github.com/3943230
[01:45] <loadid> dlw, a fresh install or an upgrade?
[01:46] <|Anthony|> is there a way to specify that all files in a folder (current and future) will belong to a group? say i put a file in a folder, instead of it being user:anthony and group:anthony have it be group:somegroup?
[01:46] <dlw> fresh install
[01:46] <loadid> i would confirm the md5sum and try again
[01:46] <dem0n> so dd does erase all data, i found that doing some research
[01:46] <loadid> don't try to fix it, more work that worth it most times
[01:46] <dem0n> i need to setup a vnc server now...
[01:47] <loadid> dem0n: dd doesn't erase all data
[01:47] <loadid> only erases over sectors
[01:47] <|Anthony|> it sure can
[01:47] <end_guy> I've tried using apt-get update -f, apt-get dist-upgrade, and still recieve https://gist.github.com/3943230
[01:47] <end_guy> s/update/upgrade/
[01:48] <loadid> dd copes sector for sector, so if it only uses half of the sectors your writing into dem0n.. then it will leave the second half untouched
[01:48] <loadid> thus NOT erasing all data
[01:49] <sazawal>  The minimode plugin in exaile <IP_ADDRESS> in Ubuntu 12.10 does not remember its position. What to do?
[01:50] <|Anthony|> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[01:50] <dem0n> ya that would erase everything
[01:50] <|Anthony|> so that doesn't zero fill a drive
[01:50] <dem0n> ^
[01:50] <|Anthony|> right, it can erase all data
[01:51] <joeeeee> may i ask ?
[01:51] <xrs1> i am having trouble with a bug. there seems to be a fix, but the fix doesnt work for me. New updates installed today and now the problem seems to be worse, not better
[01:52] <xrs1> !ask
[01:52] <|Anthony|> is there a way to specify that all files in a folder (current and future) will belong to a group? say i put a file in a folder, instead of it being user:anthony and group:anthony have it be group:somegroup?
[01:52] <dlw> At boot up, a screen opens asking to select W7 or ubuntu. Selecting either on of them does not work. Do I need to fix grub, if so, how? Typing grub or lilo in a terminal it says they are not installed.
[01:52] <DaemonicApathy> |Anthony|: You could probably write a script for that.
[01:52] <joeeeee> ok . when i plug headphone jack speakers don't mute
[01:53] <sazawal>  The minimode plugin in exaile <IP_ADDRESS> in Ubuntu 12.10 does not remember its position. Help!
[01:53] <loadid> you would need to write a script |Anthony|... if "file exists in /foo" then "chmod /foo/file"
[01:53] <|Anthony|> DaemonicApathy, blah. no scripting. was hoping there could be a more sane way of doing it with something builtin
[01:54] <|Anthony|> playing with ACLs and just noticing some annoyances
[01:54] <|Anthony|> shared folders and whatnot
[01:55] <|Anthony|> primary annoyance is that acl modifications won't take effect till the next login
[01:55] <wastrel> hi
[01:55] <DaemonicApathy> joeeeee: There is one solution that has worked for some people... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=798945
[01:56] <DaemonicApathy> dlw: What color screen/text?
[01:56] <dlw> Black screen white text
[01:56] <DaemonicApathy> dlw: So you installed Ubuntu with wubi?
[01:57] <dlw> I installed it off a live CD
[01:57] <DaemonicApathy> dlw: You can use a live CD to install and configure grub, which will result in a different boot screen. Sounds like the Windows loader is currently handling it.
[01:58] <dlw> How is this solved?
[01:58] <dormito> I have some ntfs partitions that I would like mounted at boot up (instead of only when I try to access them as is the default for ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10) since I know very little about the mount command and the files used in boot up (though I suspect its an excllent place to break things) should I just find a third party util to do this or ubuntu 12.10 come with such a tool?
[01:58]  * stevecam is upgrading
[01:59] <stevecam> I love the new download page, good idea
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> dlw: http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> stevecam, the donation page?
[01:59] <loadid> networking acl's = hdmi |Anthony|?
[01:59] <stevecam> yeah, i hope it helps with the project
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> Me too.
[01:59] <|Anthony|> i don't follow there loadid
[02:00] <loadid> me either...
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> !fstab > dormito
[02:00] <loadid> never mind
[02:00] <|Anthony|> loadid, what does hdmi have to do with it? did i mention anything about hdmi?
[02:00] <loadid> hdmi ports usually say no
[02:01] <|Anthony|> oh. no. just setting up file/folder permissions for shared access
[02:01] <|Anthony|> and Access Control Lists are the tool at hand
[02:02] <loadid> yeah, bootie traps
[02:02] <|Anthony|> meh
[02:02] <|Anthony|> don't think there is a way to let someone into a folder, but not back out
[02:02] <viniciusarq> hey plp
[02:02] <DaemonicApathy> |Anthony|: In Ubuntu, sharing options are usually in the right-click menu with a folder.
[02:02] <|Anthony|> that would be sweet though
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> dormito, This might help as well it is a bit more clear.  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab
[02:02] <|Anthony|> DaemonicApathy, nah... this is a server. no gui please =P
[02:03] <DaemonicApathy> Hehe, fair enough.
[02:03] <dormito> wilee-nilee: thanks for the info
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> dormito, No problem. ;)
[02:03] <digitalvaldosta> hello. Trying to reinstall ubuntu server 12.04.1 unfortunately it does not find my raid. But if I choose "Rescue a broken system" at the first menu it will. However, this will take me to busybox for a "rescue mode" of sorts. Is it possible to start  the standard installer from busybox since it finds my partitions? I am actually trying to do a repair install.
[02:03] <|Anthony|> dormito, your nick is close to trademark violation
[02:03] <|Anthony|> lol
[02:03] <Calisto94> One question: Is idling here allowed (ZNC, BNC or such tools to keep the connection awake) ? :P
[02:04] <Calisto94> If yes, i'd like to create a ZNC for here :P
[02:04] <loadid> digitalvaldosta: is it online at your recovery console?
[02:04] <bazhang> Calisto94, of course yes
[02:04] <digitalvaldosta> I restarted and have it waiting at the first menu
[02:04] <dormito> |Anthony| : I am pretty sure you can not trade mark a single latin word
[02:04] <|Anthony|> lol i love doritos
[02:05] <loadid> you can try "apt-get -f install" or "dpkg-reconfigure something..."
[02:05] <Smackbook> is there any toolis there a tool for recording throughput between two machines over a length of time and graphing it, to look for the frequency of dips?
[02:05] <klaxtr> im starting a small web design company an i wonder if any one here would rekon a good hosting company for hosting 10 to 15 websites per year based on linux?
[02:06] <digitalvaldosta> don't think that will work in BUSYBOX prompt
[02:06] <|Anthony|> klaxtr, i've enjoyed 1and1
[02:06] <DaemonicApathy> Smackbook: like these? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[02:06] <klaxtr> how many site you host there??
[02:06] <Nine_9> klaxtr: generally, dreamhost is the most recommended.
[02:06] <|Anthony|> past tense: "enjoyed"
[02:07] <loadid> Smackbook: it's called an oscilloscope
[02:08] <Smackbook> loadid: even as a joke thats a stretch
[02:08] <klaxtr> Nine_9: can you host many websites on linux
[02:09] <digitalvaldosta> *** Any ideas for starting the install for Ubuntu Server 12.04.1 from "Rescue a broken system" would be great. This is the only option that actually finds the RAID partitions that I need to repair the install on. ****
[02:09] <loadid> digitalvaldosta: apt-get -f install
[02:09] <ex0a> klaxtr: if you sign up with amazon you can host micro instances for free for a year (usually run me around 1.5$ a month for bandwidth on low b/w stuff)
[02:09] <digitalvaldosta> loadid, are you saying to do this from Busybox?
[02:10] <Nine_9> klaxtr: depends on the plan i think, personally I use hostgator and the business plan is quite good and allow you to host as many sites as you want (unlimited)
[02:10] <loadid> yeah, try to get the install process to pick up where it left off
[02:10] <klaxtr> ex0a micro instances means what?
[02:10] <Nine_9> there are some technical limitations though, like only 64MB of ram guaranteed (although mine server always has >1GB)
[02:10] <ex0a> small
[02:10] <ex0a> low resources
[02:11] <ex0a> go read up on it :P
[02:11] <bazhang> !ot | klaxtr
[02:11] <bazhang> klaxtr, lets take chit chat elsewhere please
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> digitalvaldosta: This is all I can find that *might* help you - http://blog.neolocus.com/2012/04/ubuntu-12-04-lts-and-soft-raid-with-mdadm/
[02:12] <Nine_9> klaxtr: http://dreamhost.com/servers/compare-our-products/
[02:12] <Nine_9> unlimited domains
[02:12] <klaxtr> is it possible to use ubuntu one
[02:12] <klaxtr> ok sorry
[02:12] <bazhang> Nine_9, could we get back to ubuntu support please
[02:12] <bazhang> klaxtr, ask in #ubuntuone
[02:13] <Nine_9> bazhang: i was just helping the guy. sry
[02:13] <klaxtr> Nine_9 thanx a lot
[02:13] <Nine_9> klaxtr: you're welcome
[02:13] <klaxtr> bazhang: simple question sorry
[02:14] <ChrisPartridge> To rephrase my earlier question, when i run "wkhtmltopdf www.google.com -" on one user, it outputs to stdout fine, when I run it under another user (both users created with adduser), i get an error that it cant write to stdout. Does anyone know where I can start troubleshooting this?
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  I need some help with a multiboot usb..I made it using multisystem and there is a grub4dos a grub2 and a syslinux menu
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  everything installs automatically and besides the windows 7 iso everything else installed on the grub2 menu ...How can I get the windows install iso to boot from the grub2 menu? these are the values under syslinux :
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  MENU LABEL Windows install kernel chan.c32 hd0 1 ntldr=/bootmgr
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  when I boot syslinux I get the argument
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  boot:
[02:14] <FloodBot1> svrnmnd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  usage: chain.c32 (hd#:fd#:mbr:#) [partition]
[02:15] <end_guy> sudo /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove xemacs21 fixed my problem :)
[02:16] <end_guy> Forum post of similar problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12314505#post12314505
[02:16] <k4r1m> would anyone have any idea why would git show modfications on a repo if I'm rsync'ing my repo from/to ubuntu/os x and vice versa?
[02:16] <loadid> svrnmnd: add your windows boot string into /etc/default/grub.cfg
[02:17] <svrnmnd> loadid: what would my windows boot string be?
[02:17] <digitalvaldosta> loadid, that will fix broken packages. That's not my case. Thanks. DaemonicApathy, we have a RAID controller on the MB. The system runs but the guy that installed it must have done something strange, because it throws errors constantly when running anything via the cli. I managed to fix some of the errors by chmoding the directories that it mentions but I was hoping to use the installer to either replace the core system files (like a Windows XP repair i
[02:19] <loadid> looks something like this set root='(hd0,msdos1)' svrnmnd
[02:19] <DaemonicApathy> digitalvaldosta: The RAID controller I referenced was to get the installer to recognize it, not the system itself.
[02:20] <DaemonicApathy> (The Ubuntu installer seems not to recognize RAID setups by default.)
[02:21] <svrnmnd> loadid "hd0 1 ntldr=/bootmgr" is what I have in syslinux but how do I make that a menu option on my grub.cfg ..things are written differently
[02:21] <loadid> svrnmnd: hd0 1 is usefull
[02:22] <RxDx> i have a netebook with a geforce 540m.. i installed ubuntu 12.10 and them bumblebee... works fine initially but after some reboots, when i try to log in appears a msg saying "running in a low graphic mode".. and I cant move the mouse.. is this a problem with nvidia-driver for optimus?
[02:23] <loadid> svrnmnd: enter blkid in terminal
[02:23] <loadid> pastebin it
[02:23] <dormito> I am trying to setup my .desktop file I have it set to execute  this command: /var/chroot/wine/wine explorer /desktop=SW:TOR,1000x614 "~/.wine/dosdevices/d:/games/Star Wars-The Old Republic/launcher.exe" A desktop is poped up, but only the blue background is shown(I have tried the command from the command prompt as well wit the same result). however if I cd to the directory of launcher.exe(which I checked to make sure is written correctly) and
[02:23] <dormito> then run the command (sans the path preceeding launcher.exe) it works properly
[02:23] <digitalvaldosta> DaemonicApathy: I'll read further but the first sentence says Software RAID
[02:24] <svrnmnd> loadid you know this is for a bootable usb right? not my computers startup?
[02:24] <bazhang> dormito, that would be an issue for checking in the appdb and joining #winehq
[02:24] <bazhang> !appdb | dormito
[02:25] <dormito> bashanh: my appoligise, I had joined winehq, but neglected to make sure I was in the correct channel before posting
[02:25] <loadid> i don't think it will matter, i'm looking for the UUID of your windows partition
[02:25] <loadid> svrnmnd: ^
[02:25] <tsimpson> dormito: you could write a simple wrapper script, put in in ~/bin for example, and cd to the directory before running the command. then just have the .desktop file execute that script instead
[02:25] <univerz> hi
[02:26] <univerz> hi
[02:26] <univerz> hi
[02:26] <FloodBot1> univerz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <Zach_> For some reason my flash player doesnt work. after about 10 min. my computer shuts down. i have a dell inspiron 1525 running 12.04 lts
[02:26] <univerz> sorry
[02:26] <loadid> http://pastebin.com/SHWBy357 svrnmnd
[02:26] <svrnmnd> there is no windows partition on my machine it is just blackbuntu , I used multisystem to unpack the windows iso onto the usb
[02:27] <dormito> tsimpson: I would have tried that, but I know nothing of any scripting for ubuntu, how/where would I go to find out? (since I assume such documentation would be lengthy)
[02:27] <loadid> well that changes everything
[02:27] <svrnmnd> what do you need to know ?
[02:28] <univerz> Ping Dormito !
[02:28] <tsimpson> dormito: you just write a plain text file starting with the line "#!/bin/sh", then write each command on each line, just as you would write them in the terminal. then just make the file executable with "chmod +x /the/text/file", and you're done
[02:29] <svrnmnd> what you sent was actually what I am looking for : a way to add it to my grub2..I just think everyone keeps thinking there is a partition on my computer with it when it is an unpacked iso
[02:29] <ner0x> Looking to get the ChromeDriver installed, from what I understand chromium comes with it?
[02:29] <loadid> i don't know what your trying to do svrnmnd... add http://pastebin.com/SHWBy357 to your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and replace UUID
[02:29] <fagioli> ubuntu gnome remix 12.10 is > *
[02:30] <dormito> tsimpson: thats a nice and elegant way to do it: thanks :)
[02:30] <svrnmnd> the uuid of my swap or ext4?
[02:31] <svrnmnd> or of the usb?
[02:38] <ezio> what's the scriptfix command in ubuntu
[02:43] <ezio> how do i clean up script file junk
[02:43] <satch5150> hi all, im using ubuntu 12.04 server - is selinux enabled by default ?
[02:45] <ezio> col
[02:46] <ezio> that's my awnser
[02:47] <yeehi> what is that nice program (gnome i think) that helps you take a screenshot and edit /highlight areas of the picture...
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> howto rollback to an adobe flash that actually works and dont bug?
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> !info scrotch | yeehi
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> !info scrot | yeehi
[02:50] <yeehi> oh, thank you lotuspsychje - i am sure i would remember a name like scrot - i think it was another one - it had a gui ...
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, If you know what version of flash you want a search on the web would probably find it.
[02:53] <xtingray> apt-cache search quazip <- somebody knows if this project will be part of the Ubuntu repositories soon?
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, YOu can't roll back persay, but you can remove the one there if you get a earlier version. sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer
[02:57] <trism> !info libquazip0-dev quantal | xtingray
[02:57] <trism> xtingray: it appears to be in 12.10
[02:58] <xtingray> trism, as part of the default repository?
[02:58] <fraggy> hey, after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10, apache now no longer starts, i get "...etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory"
[02:58] <trism> xtingray: yes it is in universe in 12.10
[02:59] <xtingray> trism, great news! thanks! :)
[02:59] <loadid> is there such a directory fraggy?
[03:00] <fraggy> loadid, yes /etc/apache2/ exists, just not the httpd.conf file
[03:01] <loadid> so create one
[03:01] <_underscore> Hey guys, anybody checked catalyst 12.11beta with quantal? Is the xserver 1.13 clash issues still there?
[03:02] <jarray52> My speaker stopped working on my Ubuntu 10.04 install. Now, I don't have any sound. Any suggestions?
[03:02] <loadid> jarray52: reboot
[03:03] <jarray52> loadid: That doesn't fix the problem.
[03:03] <tim`> is there a fix for zeroc ice being broken on 12.10 ?
[03:03] <tim`> i am seeing this behavior https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zeroc-ice/+bug/1067545
[03:03] <ESphynx> Hey guys... I'm getting a dependency error trying to install a 32 bit only package that depends on fonts-freefont-ttf ...
[03:03] <loadid> have you changed anything since it's stopped working jarray52?
[03:04] <ahmad_> anyone know of the link for tutorial on how to enable keyboard backlit function keys for samsung series 9 np9003xa
[03:04] <ESphynx> It won't seem to install because of the :i386 thing on freefont, but really the fonts should be architecture independent?
[03:04] <jarray52> I'm not sure. It stopped working a couple of weeks ago.
[03:04] <loadid> jarray52: type alsamixer in a console
[03:04] <xrs1> i fixed the issues im having with Bug #1068660. what should I do in launchpad to report that i don't need help with this bug anymore?
[03:04] <loadid> are all the volumes turned up
[03:05] <MestreLion> Guys.. I really *LOVED* the Lucid 10.04  netbook launcher. It is a killer interface for a netbook. Is there any way to get it back in Precise 12.04? Or a similar one?
[03:05] <jarray52> loadid: I typed alsamixer and turned all volumes up.
[03:06] <MestreLion> Any direction on a similar interface, or how to port Lucid's netbook-launcher to Precise would be highly appreciated
[03:06] <ESphynx> MestreLion: I admit that was kinda nice!
[03:06] <ESphynx> MestreLion: much less horrible than Unity :P
[03:07] <MestreLion> ESphynx: It was the very thing that made me switch from Windows... It felt perfect for a netbook
[03:07] <jarray52> loadid: All volumes are turned up.
[03:07] <sere> does lts. 12.04 still use fstab to mount.. for some reason fluxbox does not mount my drives in pcmanfm but lxde does??
[03:07] <MestreLion> there has to be a Precise port, or a similarly-looking package....
[03:08] <loadid> does your volume work jarray52?
[03:08] <jarray52> loadid: No
[03:08] <loadid> install pavucontrol
[03:08] <jarray52> pavucontrol is already the newest.
[03:08] <MestreLion> sere: Ubuntu 12.04 (and its derivatives) all use /etc/fstab... not sure about fluxbox, tho.. prolly not.. it's a very tiny distro
[03:08] <loadid> open pavucontrol
[03:09] <jarray52> loadid: okay. It's opened.
[03:09] <loadid> play around in there and see if it turns on, maybe in the profiles section
[03:10] <MestreLion> So.. no one has any info on a similarly-looking netbook-launcher for Precise 12.04 ? I really miss it
[03:11] <digitalvaldosta> Whats the difference between running LAMP from Ubuntu Desktop and Server?
[03:12] <MestreLion> digitalvaldosta: I can't think of any, why?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> MestreLion, I've not seen any notices on a return of it.
[03:12] <fagioli> ubuntu gnome remix 12.10 would be best for netbook
[03:13] <Jagst3r15> i cannot install nvivida stable drivers
[03:13] <MestreLion> fagioli: "gnome remix" ? Never heard of it... Any URL?
[03:13] <sere> MestreLion,  i use lubuntu
[03:13] <Jagst3r15> this is what I see http://i.imgur.com/AurmP.png
[03:13] <loadid> try another version Jagst3r15, maybe nvidia-96
[03:13] <jarray52> loadid: I opened pavucontrol and tried all the profile options under configuration.
[03:13] <Jagst3r15> how come I only see experimental
[03:14] <MestreLion> wilee-nilee: I'm sure it won't "come back", since canonical is promoting Unity. But is there a known port of it? or an alternative? Maybe a PPA?
[03:14] <jarray52> loadid: None of them help with audio.
[03:14] <DaemonicApathy> MestreLion: http://ugr.teampr0xy.net/ I believe.
[03:14] <loadid> not sure what to say jarray52
[03:14] <Jagst3r15> loadid any idea
[03:14] <MestreLion> sere:  ad what does #ubuntu or lubuntu have to do with fluxbox?
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> MestreLion, Ubuntu has different OS in the works I believe I was just looking around I see nothing yet.
[03:15] <loadid>  are there any hardware volume controls that need turned up jarray52?
[03:15] <ahmad_> quick question guys in bash, what is the best way to append text to a root owned file?
[03:15] <jarray52> They are turned up all the way.
[03:15] <digitalvaldosta> Have an Ubuntu Server install, with KDE installed, that is throwing errors for /home/"user"/somefiles and have been trying to get the server install disk to recognize my RAID with no luck (except from the "repair a broken system" option). Also the desktop version sees my raid also. I am needing this server to run LAMP for a PHP application for a customer.
[03:15] <ahmad_> i tried  sudo -su -c "echo 'hello' >> /temp/new.txt"
[03:15] <ahmad_> it works great, just wondering
[03:16] <sere> MestreLion,  on my netbook.....and nothing lol
[03:16] <MestreLion> DaemonicApathy: I'm taking a look, thanks :)
[03:16] <Jagst3r15> loadid should i download from official geforce.com site
[03:16] <DaemonicApathy> MestreLion: Any time. GIMF :-)
[03:16] <loadid> no Jagst3r15.. use the repositories
[03:17] <narwalrus> Hello... a bit of a generic issue, but all of the other channels seem to be dead at the moment:
[03:17] <sere> MestreLion, my problem is not with fluxbox anyway... its with hal or something whatever it uses to automount the drives
[03:17] <loadid> sere.. fstab is used to mount drives
[03:17] <MestreLion> ahmad_: best is to use sudo tee -a file > /dev/null
[03:17] <MestreLion> DaemonicApathy: GIMF?
[03:18] <Jagst3r15> loadid how come they experimental though?
[03:18] <DaemonicApathy> Google Is My Friend </ot>
[03:18] <loadid> no official nvidia drivers for linux
[03:18] <MestreLion> ohh lol
[03:18] <loadid> i don't know
[03:18] <narwalrus> I'm attemption to edit a launcher to function properly (A .desktop file) to run it from terminal I: "cd ../.../opt/nxengine ./nx"
[03:18] <narwalrus> The launcher defaulted to a script (StartNX.sh)
[03:19] <narwalrus> But I assume I could do this command from the .desktop file?
[03:19] <narwalrus> In this case what would be the proper syntax from the aforemention terminal task?
[03:19] <narwalrus> (cd ../.../opt/nxengine ./nx)
[03:19] <DaemonicApathy> narwalrus: You can do any command you like from the .desktop file. Try making a new one (for messing around) that calls that script directly. See what happens.
[03:20] <Jagst3r15> loadid http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/50196
[03:20] <MestreLion> DaemonicApathy / fagioli : seems a nice project, but it has no word about the netbook launcher. It looks like a vanillla gnome-shell in 12.04
[03:20] <ahmad_> MestreLion, thank you i will try it out
[03:20] <narwalrus> Okay, so what would be the default .desktop command to run /bin/StartNX.sh?
[03:21] <narwalrus> I already overwrote it :3:
[03:21] <narwalrus> I assume I'll just go back to editing the .sh
[03:21] <MestreLion> ahmad_: also, guys at #bash are really amazing for bash questions... true pros :)
[03:21] <ESphynx> guys, I have an explicit dependency to 'Depends: fonts-freefont-ttf' ... but installing the i386 package on a 64 bit system says fonts-freefont-ttf:i386 is not installable :( Any way I can force install ignoring the dependency?
[03:21] <ahmad_> MestreLion, awesome will check it out
[03:22] <DaemonicApathy> narwalrus: "cd /bin ; ./StartNX.sh"
[03:23] <MestreLion> narwalrus: is StarNX.sh a script you wrote yourself?
[03:23] <narwalrus> No, a script that doesn't/no longer works
[03:23] <MestreLion> DaemonicApathy: I'm not sure you can use that syntax in a .desktop file
[03:23] <DaemonicApathy> narwalrus: If it starts editing it by default, you may need to make the script executable.
[03:23] <narwalrus> No, I'm using vi
[03:23] <narwalrus> Intentionally
[03:24] <MestreLion> narwalrus: I wonder where it came from, because it has several issues: A) should not be in /bin B) should not use Caps C) should not have .sh suffix
[03:24] <narwalrus> This is a mobile device, root directory is locked unless you use command line
[03:24] <DaemonicApathy> You may be right, MestreLion. I rely too much on scripts themselves, and tend to forget the differences with .desktop
[03:24] <narwalrus> That may be relevent, the device channel is dead atm
[03:25] <narwalrus> So I have a desktop file I need to link to a shell file that should run "cd ../.../opt/nxengine ./nx"
[03:25] <narwalrus> Just to be clear
[03:25] <Jagst3r15> ill just use the Nouveau drivers
[03:25] <Jagst3r15> i cant figure this out
[03:25] <MestreLion> narwalrus: a script that requires cd? ewwww
[03:26] <narwalrus> Not necessarily; that's just how I get the program to run from shell
[03:26] <shihan> anyone know why ubuntu's libvirt starts vms with a seemingly random uid?
[03:26] <narwalrus> So I effectively wish to automate that so it starts from the .desktop file
[03:28] <cowsquad> is there any way to make windows in ubuntu 12.10 have the menu bar on the actual windows?
[03:28] <cowsquad> not the one by the dash
[03:28] <narwalrus> Switch to KDE
[03:28] <narwalrus> I kid..
[03:29] <elesbb> Hey guys, just upgraded to ubuntu 12 from 11 CLEAN install.
[03:29] <MestreLion> narwalrus: well, my suggestion is: 1) create a wrapper script that do exactly what you need/want: cd, parameters, etc. 2) save it as ~/bin/myscript (yes, in your $HOME), 3) make it executable 4) logout and log in 4) the .desktop line would be simply Exec=myscript
[03:29] <elesbb> my brightness settings dont work, and my wifi never connects again after sleep mode.
[03:29] <trism> cowsquad: for individual apps: UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= command; still works, otherwise you're probably still uninstalling the appmenu stuff
[03:29] <MestreLion> cowsquad: remove appmenu package
[03:29] <narwalrus> Sounds simple enough.. any issues with naming it .myscript?
[03:29] <narwalrus> As to hide it
[03:29] <elesbb> i remember having to edit something to get it to work but forgot what that something was
[03:30] <MestreLion> narwalrus: don't hide executables
[03:30] <cowsquad> trism do i add the command to my bahsrc, or where to I input that
[03:30] <narwalrus> But it's a phone, and it makes the home directory look ugly, and it will never be updated
[03:30] <MestreLion> its really bad practice. If you want it out-of-sight, install it to /usr/local/bin/myscript
[03:30] <MestreLion> wait.. a phone?
[03:30] <MestreLion> running #ubuntu ?
[03:31] <narwalrus> Nope, this channel is the only one that isn't dead right now
[03:31] <ahmad_> can anyone please tell me how to scroll back up on ubuntu server 12.10      right ctrl + shift up is not working...
[03:31] <narwalrus> It's debian based though
[03:31] <narwalrus> So close enough
[03:31] <MestreLion> narwalrus: but what OS is this phone running?
[03:31] <shihan> ahmad_,shift-page up usually works for me
[03:31] <narwalrus> Nokia N900; Maemo 5 based on Debian/BusyBox
[03:32] <MestreLion> narwalrus: debian is very different from ubuntu... specially regarling default dirs in $PATH.. for example, my ~/bin trick would not work by default in debian
[03:32] <MestreLion> and BusyBox is a totally different beast
[03:32] <trism> cowsquad: before you run a gui app, you can use a shell script...for instance my google-chrome has: export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 before running google-chrome since the bookmarks menu can kind of lag and it isn't necessary anyway
[03:33] <narwalrus> Alright
[03:33] <silentmyst> Ok so, I have a stupid question I suppose.... I get what the "cut -d: -f1" command DOES, but I don't fully under stand HOW or WHY the syntax works. Can anyone seriously elaborate on this for me please?
[03:33] <narwalrus> What would you recommend then?
[03:34] <MestreLion> silentmyst: have you tried "man cut" ?
[03:34] <narwalrus> Placing the script in a nice place sounds straighforward
[03:34] <silentmyst> for example  - cat /etc/passwd | grep /home | cut -d: -f1
[03:34] <MestreLion> narwalrus: the problem is "nice place" depends a lot in the distro...
[03:34] <tsimpson> silentmyst: have you looked at "man cut"?
[03:34] <MestreLion> silentmyst: run "man cut", and try to find out... come back if you still don't understand
[03:34] <cowsquad> mastrelion, whick appmenu
[03:35] <cowsquad> there are like 3
[03:35] <cowsquad> appmenu-qt
[03:35] <silentmyst> i have tsimpson, just it removes sections from the file lines - but where does the "d: -f1" come from?
[03:35] <ESphynx> is there a dev Ubuntu channel? :|
[03:35] <MestreLion> ESphynx: read the topic ;)
[03:35] <tsimpson> silentmyst: -d specifies the delimiter, -f specifies the field number (fields are separated by the delimiter
[03:35] <tsimpson> )
[03:35] <MestreLion> tsimpson: I doubt he reall read it
[03:35] <cowsquad> appmenu-gtk and gtk3
[03:36] <silentmyst> ok... suppose i need to be educated on what a delimiter is to get it
[03:36] <MestreLion> cowsquad: remove the ones that are installed
[03:36] <narwalrus> So pwd from a new terminal gives me /home/user, as with blank "cd" bringing me there
[03:37] <tsimpson> silentmyst: the delimiter is the character that separates fields, in the above command you set it to a colon character
[03:37] <snark> silentmyst, you might like this    http://www.linuxintheshell.org/2012/03/28/episode-003-cut/
[03:37] <MestreLion> silentmyst: a delimiter is a character that you specify... to be used as a field delimiter. A "separator" -d: means "break the string using ':' as a separator", and -f1 means ".. and get the 1st field"
[03:37] <SuperMiguel> besides md0 what other name can i use for mdadm arrays?
[03:38] <MestreLion> ESphynx: #ubuntu-dev
[03:38] <narwalrus> Also to get proper help as the channel for the phone is predominantly europeon therefor offline for the next 3-4 hours, would debian or busybox be a good channel to go to?
[03:39] <silentmyst> i "think" i get it - sooooo when for example it breaks it down to xxxxxxxxxxx:xxxxxxxxx:xxxxxxxxxxxx each listing after : is a field, and your telling it which field to display?
[03:39] <MestreLion> narwalrus: if your phone uses Maemo, I would try #maemo
[03:39] <MestreLion> narwalrus: the phone itself is irrelevant.. what matter is the specific distro it runs
[03:39] <snark> to cut
[03:39] <silentmyst> right
[03:39] <MestreLion> silentmyst: exactly
[03:39] <tsimpson> silentmyst: each entry separated by :, including the first one
[03:39] <worm> Serious problem. I installed kubuntu-netbook in a newly installed ubuntu 12.10, then all of my windows are in KDE style. see the screenshot: http://imagebin.org/233045 How can I change it back to gnome style?
[03:39] <narwalrus> It's essentially dead right now as I said, I meant the maemo channel not the n900 channel excuse me
[03:39] <silentmyst> ok, thank you guys - seriously a big help
[03:40] <WeThePeople> i transfered data to ubuntu from windows and deleted the data on windows.. i booted back into windows and the windows dosent recognize i deleted the data.. whats goin on??
[03:40] <MestreLion> worm: that's exactly what installing kubuntu is for.
[03:41] <MestreLion> narwalrus: well, we could try to help you, but there's no way our help will be useful in a mamemo, specially if it uses Busybox
[03:41] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: more info about how you trnasfered and deleted would help
[03:42] <worm> MestreLion: But when I was still in 12.04 or earlier, those two desktop environments are not like this. In gnome, all of the windows are shown in Gnome style, and in KDE, all the windows are shown in KDE style.
[03:42] <digitalvaldosta> ROCK OUT WITH meh COCK out
[03:43] <xangua> workcjk: just change the gtk theme
[03:43] <worm> Even the firefox is in KDE style. Terrible. Then I tried to purge the kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-netbook, but nothing happened.
[03:43] <ESphynx> thanks MestreLion
[03:43] <ESphynx> no one there MestreLion :P
[03:43] <jarray52> When I run nmap, I see that some service is running on port 2049(tcp). How do I determine what process is running on that port?
[03:44] <xangua> worm: uninstalling kubuntu-desktop won't remove kde, is just a metapackage
[03:44] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, i was in ubuntu when i transfered the data to the ubuntu partition from the windows partition.. after the data transfer was complete i (still in ubuntu) i deleted the data from the windows partition. then i booted into windows and check to see the hdd space and it didnt recognize that i had deleted the data.
[03:45] <worm> xangua: I know, but then apt-get autoremove doesn't help also.
[03:45] <xangua> worm: have you already tried to change the gtk theme¿
[03:45] <tsimpson> jarray52: "sudo netstat -lnp" will list all processes listening on network sockets, just look for :2049 (you may want to pipe the output through less or grep)
[03:45] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: have you emptied the trash?
[03:46] <adoily> MestreLion: where u from ?
[03:46] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, the recycle bin is empty
[03:46] <MestreLion> adoily: Rio, why?
[03:46] <adoily> MestreLion: sp
[03:46] <MestreLion> nice :)
[03:47] <worm> Changed in tweak tools. screenshot: http://imagebin.org/233048
[03:47] <xangua> !puregnome | worm: if you wish to remove all kde, neither uninstalling a metapackage or runing autoremove will do it
[03:47] <virus> WeThePeople: windows troll you again and again and again ....
[03:47] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: and, in Ubuntu, does it look like the data from windows partition is deleted?
[03:47] <worm> xangua, but that still don't work.
[03:48] <xangua> worm: the puregnome¿
[03:48] <narwalrus> Well just on standard..
[03:48] <worm> xangua: I mean, change GTK+ don't work. Thanks I am gonna remove the kubuntu.
[03:48] <narwalrus> How do I in an exec: statement run a .sh?
[03:49] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, yes
[03:49] <narwalrus> I think it was previously: exec:"sudo /bin/StartNX.sh" ... logical?
[03:49] <MestreLion> narwalrus: exec in a .desktop file?
[03:49] <jarray52> tsimpson: Thanks.
[03:49] <WeThePeople> mestreloin,  the hdd says i have 280 some mb left on the hdd, but i transfered over a gig and deleted over a gig of data
[03:49] <MestreLion> narwalrus: nope... it should be gksudo instead of sudo
[03:50] <narwalrus> The shell script launches the program, the .desktop launches the shell script
[03:50] <worm> xangua: But the newest version of ubuntu listed there is just 11.10. Wish it works with 12.10.
[03:50] <narwalrus> and how do I just test my .sh files via terminal?
[03:51] <narwalrus> chmod +x;              ./file.sh
[03:51] <MestreLion> narwalrus: just... type their name (with full path) and hit ENTER :)
[03:51] <narwalrus> ?
[03:51] <narwalrus> Ah okay
[03:51] <MestreLion> yes... but chmod only once
[03:51] <narwalrus> right
[03:51] <xangua> worm: there you go ;) http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[03:51] <MestreLion> narwalrus: and... avoid naming your executable files .sh
[03:51] <worm> xangua: Thanks a lot.
[03:52] <MestreLion> narwalrus: they are executables, regardless if they are shell scripts, C++ binaries or python scripts
[03:53] <MestreLion> narwalrus: the same way in windows you name all executables .exe regardless of the language they are written
[03:55] <snark> MestreLion, why avoid naming scripts   .sh  ?
[03:56] <MestreLion> snark: in windows, do you call executables "firefox.vcnet" ? or "utorrent.vbasic" ?
[03:57] <MestreLion> snark: executables are executables. Their language is irrelevant
[03:57] <MestreLion> you don't want to rename an executable if, later, you change a bash script to a python script
[03:58] <snark> MestreLion, sorry my misunderstanding  windows you were saying about
[03:58] <CoopDot^^> anybody here smart enough to know about VLANs in DDWRT router
[03:58] <MestreLion> snark: the same goes for Linux: in linux, executables don't have extensions
[03:58] <snark> MestreLion, they do now!
[03:58] <MestreLion> CoopDot^^: I'm sure there are smart folks in #dd-wrt
[03:59] <CoopDot^^> i  cannot type in that room
[03:59] <MestreLion> snark: no, they don't
[03:59] <narwalrus> Okay so my shell script is working now... :D
[03:59] <digitalvaldosta> :-*
[03:59] <narwalrus> But my desktop file is not.
[03:59] <digitalvaldosta> Anyone know how to keep teamviewer running or maybe a script to restart from webmin?
[04:00] <cyclobs> hi guys, need a little help with smtp authing on postfix, courier and mysql
[04:00] <snark> MestreLion, what about .so lib files?
[04:00] <MestreLion> digitalvaldosta: you sure you don't want to use vnc or even rcp ?
[04:00] <MestreLion> snark: those are not executables, they are shared libraries
[04:00] <MestreLion> equivalent of window's DLL, not EXE
[04:00] <spupuser2> any puppy guy here?
[04:01] <yeehi> Hey! I would like a GUI that would help me find lost files on a partition - i reinstalled GNU/Linux and there weren't any files left in my home partition
[04:01] <digitalvaldosta> Would prefer to use Logmein as the company I work for has all of our customers on it. but no support for that as far as I know
[04:02] <MestreLion> narwalrus: ./myscript will only work if you are in the same dir as the myscript. This is true for your terminal session, but may be not true for .desktop files. I have no idea of default dir in a maemo session
[04:02] <narwalrus> Thanks sooooo much for the help!
[04:02] <narwalrus> It's fully working now!
[04:02] <narwalrus> I needed to chmod +x both of them
[04:02] <MestreLion> narwalrus: of course
[04:02] <narwalrus> Totally spaced out that I'd need to after my vi edits
[04:02] <MestreLion> actually, not really... in Ubuntu you don't need to chmod .desktop files
[04:03] <digitalvaldosta> I had created a script that I ran from webmin to start teamviewer.exe but it wouldnt actually start the program so that I could remote in. :-(
[04:03] <narwalrus> Nonetheless I wouldn't have though of it but it worked... lol
[04:03] <digitalvaldosta> MestreLion: never could get VLC to work.
[04:03] <MestreLion> digitalvaldosta: vnc or rcp are your friends :)
[04:03] <DaemonicApathy> narwalrus: I told you that almost an hour ago. -_-
[04:03] <MestreLion> and VLC is a video player
[04:04] <MestreLion> a great one, btw :P
[04:04] <narwalrus> Hey, don't blame me, it's my brain.    Full refund
[04:10] <aguadito> i'ts just ridiculous, ubuntu can't handle java and flash worth a shit
[04:10] <aguadito> my win7 partition crashes less, freebsd crashes almost none but thats because of how i use it, and ubuntu crashes the most
[04:10] <cyclobs> lol flash
[04:10] <xrs1> sounds like a personal problem to be honest
[04:10] <MestreLion> aguadito: that's very true. Go to the store where you bought it and claim your full refund
[04:10] <bazhang> MestreLion, thats not helpful
[04:11] <MestreLion> bazhang: there's a better way to handle trollers?
[04:11] <bazhang> MestreLion, just dont respond. lets move on
[04:11] <furiousscissors> hello all, is there anyone that has experience using dual monitors with a laptop and an nvidia chipset?
[04:11] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, i had to boot back into ubuntu and delete the trash from there.. thanks
[04:11] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: like I told you ;)
[04:11] <ESphynx> bazhang, MestreLion: I see that as a valid unsatisfied user.
[04:12] <MestreLion> ESphynx: no one is forced to use ubuntu... zillion other distros out there
[04:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> How to I set up identD ?
[04:12] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, i thought you meant windows.. did not connect when you used the word trash.. lol
[04:12] <bazhang> [_-S1L3NC3-_], why do you need it
[04:13] <xrs1> i havent had any issues with java or flash yet.
[04:13] <MestreLion> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: search for identd in software center... there're a few packages.. but, imho, if that's only for IRC, I wouldn't bother about it
[04:13] <hazardous> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: apt-get install oidentd?
[04:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> for a serrver that rquires it
[04:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[04:13] <FuriousScissors> crickets ... would that be a question for the x server folks?
[04:14] <ESphynx> MestreLion: sadly, Ubuntu is still one of the best.
[04:14] <MestreLion> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: and, personally, any irc server that requires identd is not worth using, seriously
[04:14] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, whats the issue
[04:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> reguardless of opinions it's needed
[04:15] <IdleOne> Personal opinions on what application should or should not be used are not helpful.
[04:15] <MestreLion> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: check wikipedia's article on ident to know why it's a fundamentally flawed "security" method... and why no decent irc server requires it
[04:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it's not a popular IRC server
[04:15] <IdleOne> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: oidentd will work for what you need it for.
[04:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> but it's one i visit
[04:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[04:16] <MestreLion> IdleOne: I disagree. Sometimes one may *think* a given software is the best (or only) solution for his problem, but it may turns out there is a better approach
[04:17] <MestreLion> I also provided the solution he asked for, mentioning "identd" in software center
[04:17] <cyclobs> so i guess no one has any idea on my issue?
[04:17] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: XChat locked, sorry
[04:18] <WeThePeople> cyclobs, whats the issue?
[04:19] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: I configured a second monitor, it works just fine. I reboot my laptop without the second monitor plugged in and my mouse is confined to the y-axis only on the far left side of the window
[04:19] <cyclobs> i'm having trouble getting postfix to auth my SMTP against my mysql. It appears to be dropping my domain name on the user when it submits the sql query.. but i can't find a reason why it should be doing that
[04:20] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: ubuntu 12.04 ?
[04:20] <cyclobs> 10.10
[04:20] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Yes, 12.04 Desktop
[04:20] <cyclobs> oh not me >.<
[04:20] <WeThePeople> furioussciccors, i take it this happened after you installed the software for the dual monitors
[04:20] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: It happened when I configured the second monitor
[04:20] <IdleOne> !10.10 | cyclobs
[04:20] <snark> FuriousScissors, is the far left side of the window   where the second monitor is ?
[04:21] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: have you tried opening the Displays (via dash) ? can you post a screenshot of it?
[04:21] <IdleOne> cyclobs: 10.10 is no longer supported.
[04:21] <WeThePeople> cyclobs, matbe #networking may have a answer
[04:21] <FuriousScissors> snark: The second monitor is at home while i travel with my laptop
[04:21] <cyclobs> okay i'll check with them, thanks WeThePeople
[04:21] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Sure, I can do that. Btw, I should also mention that I am using Cinnamon
[04:22] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: cinnamon may work very differently from ubuntu regarding dual-monitor setup. have you tried the Mint folks?
[04:23] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: also... how did you configure it? using proprietary drivers or the vanilla "displays" window in system settings?
[04:23] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Not yet. This is an issue at the login screen, before I can even access the desktop. If this is not an ubuntu related issue, I will try the Mint support
[04:23] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Using the nvidia-settings gui
[04:24] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: but are you using mint or ubuntu? they use different login screens... ubuntu uses lightdm and mint uses mdm
[04:24] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Ubuntu
[04:24] <WeThePeople> cyclobs, fyi #postfix, #postfixadmin
[04:24] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: with the Cinnamon Interface
[04:24] <cyclobs> oh cool they might help even more
[04:25] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: I should also note that my displays are not being detected correctly with the default Display app, I can screen shot that ... 1 sec
[04:26] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, what app did you install for the dual setup?
[04:26] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: nvidia-settings gui
[04:27] <Tex_Nick> .
[04:27] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: http://i.imgur.com/ML3sX.png
[04:27] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: Default ubuntu nvidia drivers
[04:27] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: you disabled the wrong monitor
[04:29] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Huh? This is how it showed up by default. The Current enabled monitor is the main laptop display.
[04:30] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: and is it 1600x900? and larger than the stand alone 2nd monitor?
[04:31] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, have you enabled the other 'monitor' in the gui to see if it would work?
[04:31] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Both monitors are 1600x900
[04:32] <snark> FuriousScissors, just removethe second monitor till you get back home
[04:33] <snark> FuriousScissors, to see if that helps your mouse issue
[04:35] <FuriousScissors> snark, WeThePeople, MestreLion: wow ... ok, let me back up for a second. I've been able to enable and use the second monitor just fine. Suppose I've decided to go to a coffee shop without the second monitor ... ok. I boot up Ubuntu and I cant move the mouse beyond the Y axis of the window. To fix this, I have to connect the second monitor and disable it. Then it works just fine. Is there any documented issues regarding this in conjunction with a
[04:35] <FuriousScissors> n NVIDIA based laptop.
[04:37] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: i don't use nvidia here, but maybe googling may show if this is a known issue. Have you tried using the open--source drivers, just to test?
[04:37] <snark> FuriousScissors, thats what I was trying to say to you earlier
[04:37] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: I have not installed the opensource drivers yet ... I might give that a try.
[04:37] <FuriousScissors> snark: Ah, ok.
[04:38] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: If that does not help i might put together a ticket to fully document this using the standard unity interface.
[04:39] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion, snark, WeThePeople: Thank-you for helping. It looks like i need to do some more research into this. :)
[04:39] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: good luck opening a ticket against a proprietary binary driver :(
[04:39] <snark> FuriousScissors, Ive had the same problem before (and thats how I fixed it and I dont think its a driver issue as I was using ubuntu drivers
[04:39] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, i would look for a new piece of software to handle the issue
[04:42] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: yea, thats the unfortunate side effect of proprietary drivers. I was looking into the open-source version of the driver a while back ... couple years ago ... and the driver was fine but it didn't support all of the features I wanted. Since this is just a basic dev box I might reconsider it.
[04:42] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2012-10/msg26702.html
[04:43] <patrick99e99> hi guys..  I am kind of new to installing stuff on ubuntu..  I have an older version of imagemagick that I am trying to install, and I ran configure, and it output a list of options
[04:43] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: o.O Interesting ... thank-you very much
[04:43] <WeThePeople> np
[04:43] <patrick99e99> RSVG              --with-rsvg=yes     no
[04:43] <patrick99e99> I assume the no means I don't have it intalled ?
[04:44] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: feature-wise the open source is great... also stability and integration. the major issue is performance. But if you don't care about 3d games, the open source ones may suit you fine
[04:45] <MestreLion> it's worth trying at least for debbuging
[04:46] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: It looks like its not a driver issue ... i suspected this ... its an issue with ... sticky edges and disabled monitors.
[04:47] <WeThePeople> patrick99e99, http://www.imagemagick.org/script/binary-releases.php#unix
[04:47] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Sticky edges for some people .. but ultimately an issue with xorg
[04:47] <patrick99e99> WeThePeople: I need to install <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:47] <MestreLion> humm, interesting FuriousScissors
[04:48] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990904, this is from the link WeThePeople found
[04:48] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: I use sticky and I have a dual-monitor setup, and I also enable and disable one of them all the time.. never had an issue... maybe its nvidia-only?
[04:49] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Dunno, i'll still try the open source drivers ...
[04:49] <WeThePeople> patrick99e99, what version of ubuntu you on
[04:49] <cowbud> can I easily upgrade from natty to precise or do I need to first go to oneiric?
[04:50] <patrick99e99> WeThePeople: 12.04
[04:50] <patrick99e99> (lts)
[04:51] <MestreLion> cowbud: oneiric then precise
[04:51] <cowbud> bummer
[04:51] <cowbud> alright
[04:51] <cowbud> thanks
[04:52] <WeThePeople> patrick99e99, is it a tar.gz ?
[04:52] <MestreLion> cowbud: only exception are LTS release, like Lucid
[04:53] <patrick99e99> WeThePeople: https://gist.github.com/621b881ab1f04a9385ec
[04:53] <patrick99e99> WeThePeople: I untarred it.. ran ./configure on it
[04:53] <patrick99e99> that's the output I got
[04:53] <patrick99e99> this is a fresh VM install of ubuntu
[04:53] <patrick99e99> so I assume I need to install all the dependencies.. but I am just not sure how to do that?
[04:53] <patrick99e99> like .. how do I know what I need to install prior to installing imagemagick?
[04:54] <cowbud> apt-get build-dep imagemagick
[04:54] <WeThePeople> cowbud, deb ??
[04:54] <patrick99e99> ahhhhh thanks cowbud.. thats what I was looking for
[04:54] <cowbud> WeThePeople: full sentence?
[04:54] <WeThePeople> lol
[04:57] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you said imagemagick <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:59] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: if you sure the one available in precise is not enough for you, it may be easier to install the quantal's version of it instead of using the upstream .tar.gz
[05:02] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: backporting a source package already provided in ubuntu is usually much easier (and 'safer', in  a way) than using vanilla's upstream
[05:06] <patrick99e99> should I be concerned at all about a bunch of rsvg deprecated warnings?  I assume because the apt-get dep got all the current dependencies for imagemagick
[05:07] <patrick99e99> rather than getting the dependencies that were current back when 6.7.5 was the latest and greatest...
[05:08] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: read my suggestions above
[05:09] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: what does "backporting" and "vanilla stream" mean?
[05:09] <ahmad_> hey guys, can anyone please tell me how to scroll up on output inside virtualbox 4.2.2 on ubuntu 12.10 server 64-bit?   ctrl + left shift + up is not working !
[05:11] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: theres imagemagick <IP_ADDRESS> for ubuntu 12.04 in the software center. You said you need a more recent version, correct?
[05:12] <MestreLion> ahmad_: change your HOST key from Left-CTRL to another key
[05:12] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: well, there were some changes recently that affect the way graphics are rendered.. Not sure what version that happened on..  But I know 6.7.5-7 was the previous version I had installed where everything was "right"
[05:12] <MestreLion> ahmad_: or try using the the other ctrl
[05:13] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: and how did you have 6.7 in 12.04? It is not available "by default" in software center
[05:13] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I had 6.7 on mac os x
[05:13] <MestreLion> oh, ok
[05:13] <Guest41660> quit
[05:14] <MestreLion> Well, you have 2 choices: either use the upstream source (upstream = downloaded from developer website), OR you can use a version that is packaged to a newer ubuntu release, like the one from Quantal 12.10
[05:15] <MestreLion> which is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:15] <bassna> would anybody be able to help me get projectm to install correct?
[05:15] <ahmad_> MestreLion, i was just thinking that :0
[05:15] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok.. well I just finished this manual install of 6.7.5-- it seems to be working..
[05:15] <patrick99e99> but I am going to test it..
[05:15] <MestreLion> ahmad_: I have mine set up as right-alt... rarely interferes with anything
[05:16] <ahmad_> if you remember MestreLion what is the path to change that?
[05:16] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: it is usually better to install the ubuntu version of any software... there are less issues
[05:17] <zymaster> Hey quick question. I have an Alienware M14x with Ubuntu. Whenever I try to put some sound on my laptop speakers, the sound makes a little staticy sound every few seconds at an almost exact rhythmic pulse but only when Im trying to use my speakers.
[05:17] <ahmad_> nvm got it
[05:17] <zymaster> Any ideas for fix
[05:17] <MestreLion> ahmad_: File > Preferences > Input
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> any known issues on 12.10 usb install freezing before partioning screen?
[05:18] <zymaster> one sec im going to try reboot
[05:19] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: hmmmmmmm.. "No such file or directory @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2614."
[05:19] <zymaster> brb
[05:19] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: so how do I install <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:19] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: and it's also easier. here's how: dget --build http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imagemagick/imagemagick_<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu4.dsc
[05:20] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: should I do a clean install of this VM again?  Since I already installed stuff?
[05:20] <patrick99e99> or does it not matter?
[05:20] <ahmad_> MestreLion, its still not working :|
[05:20] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: do that in a new, empty directory, just in case
[05:21] <ahmad_> oh crappy me let me restart machine first
[05:21] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: no need. software you install using "./configure && make && sudo make install" go to a different place
[05:21] <MestreLion> but you do need to uninstall the version you compiled
[05:21] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok cool..  im installing the dget stuff first
[05:22] <chendo_> is there a way to easily get mysql 5.1.x on 12.04 without having to resort to compiling from source?
[05:22] <ahmad_> ahh hell, it wasn't that i needed to restart machine, when i change host key to right alt i cant click OK so i cant save
[05:22] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: uh oh... dscverify: imagemagick_<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu4.dsc failed signature check:
[05:23] <ahmad_> when i close the dialog its back to right ctrl, any ideas?
[05:23] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: gpg: keyblock resource `/home/vagrant/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error
[05:23] <patrick99e99> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[05:23] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: try adding -us -uc
[05:23] <bretolius> Is anyone aware of the modem manager error on shutdown?   It says it catches signal 15 or something?
[05:23] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: dget -us -uc --build http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imagemagick/imagemagick_<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu4.dsc
[05:24] <patrick99e99> it says "unknown option s and c"
[05:24] <ahmad_> it says "The value of the host field on the Proxy page is not complete"
[05:25] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: this is expected. but it did download 3 files and created a new subdir with the source, correct?
[05:25] <patrick99e99> yes
[05:25] <patrick99e99> well no subdir
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> bretolius, If your OS is runnimg fine I would ignore the start and stop code.
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> running*
[05:25] <patrick99e99> ive got two .bz2 and a .dsc
[05:26] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: (this error, if you are curious, happens because to build a proper source package, you need to sign it with your personal Gpg key... but you don't have created any personal key yet)
[05:26] <patrick99e99> yeah...
[05:26] <ahmad_> ahh got it working :) both proxy host and port set to 0
[05:26] <patrick99e99> should I create a key?
[05:26] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you could create a key, or you can ask dget not to sign your package
[05:27] <MestreLion> let me check how
[05:27] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I am open to either way.
[05:27] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: -u
[05:27] <Seven_Six_Two> I can't figure out why my webserver isn't accessible outside my own network. I am trying to set up openvpn, and didn't touch apache2
[05:28] <Seven_Six_Two> www has been working perfectly for months.
[05:28] <ahmad_> good gawd, even with right alt set its not letting me scroll up to see previously output text
[05:28] <wtf911> is there anyone here who wouldn't mind helping a noob setup reverse dns for either an ipv4 or ipv6? i have bind any a domain...i can't figure out setting this named.conf and stuff
[05:28] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok.. its doing its thing
[05:29] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok now there is a subdirectory with the code
[05:29] <patrick99e99> do I just do configure, install, make install now ?
[05:29] <MestreLion> no
[05:29] <MestreLion> it already build a .DEB for you, didn't it?
[05:30] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: how do I know?
[05:30] <MestreLion> err... ls ? :P
[05:30] <Seven_Six_Two> can anyone else get a webpage from me? http://dotcadot.ca  I even DMZ my server...dangit
[05:30] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I've got imagemagick-<IP_ADDRESS> (dir), then 2 .bz2 and a .dsc
[05:31] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: can you paste the output? Usually dget -u --build URL.dsc aleady builds a .deb file ready to be installed if you double-click it
[05:32] <patrick99e99> sure hold on
[05:32] <patrick99e99> oh
[05:32] <patrick99e99> I didn't even read the output!!!
[05:32] <patrick99e99> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.
[05:32] <patrick99e99> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)
[05:32] <patrick99e99> I guess I should do -u -d then ?
[05:32] <zymaster> Ok I am back anything google said to do did not help nor did reboot.
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> Seven_Six_Two, THat address does not complete here.
[05:33] <MestreLion> humm... have you already run sudo apt-get build-dep imagemagick ?
[05:33] <zymaster> now I need some help
[05:33] <patrick99e99> yeah
[05:33] <Scott_S> What was the issue, zymaster?
[05:33] <patrick99e99> -d made no difference...
[05:33] <wubino> can I write a bash function thats arguments will not get written to the bash history?
[05:33] <MestreLion> patrick99e99:  check the previous line, the one that lists the dependencies
[05:33] <patrick99e99> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: fftw3-dev liblcms2-dev libtiff5-dev liblzma-dev
[05:34] <MestreLion> try installing them
[05:35] <MestreLion> if this does not work, it means Quantal's version of imagemagick uses libs that are in different packages (or versions) than PRecise
[05:35] <patrick99e99> so apt-get install fftw3-dev ?
[05:35] <ahmad_> MestreLion, any ideas? i changed screen capture to right alt even then ctrl + shift + up is not working
[05:35] <MestreLion> apt-get install fftw3-dev liblcms2-dev libtiff5-dev liblzma-dev
[05:35] <Scott_S> ^ Beat me to it.
[05:36] <MestreLion> ahmad_: screen capture? you mean the host key?
[05:36] <soc42> hi #ubuntu
[05:36] <Scott_S> Hello, soc42. What can we help you with today?
[05:36] <ahmad_> MestreLion, yes
[05:37] <soc42> i did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 in a vmware box and now i wonder how to install the vmware tools...
[05:37] <MestreLion> no idea ahmad_ . is 3D enabled (not sure if required)
[05:37] <klaxtr> is there a way to autohide the panle on top of the screen???
[05:37] <MestreLion> soc42: which is the host OS ?
[05:37] <Scott_S> soc42: sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools
[05:37] <soc42> hi Scott_S thanks for this friendly welcome or are you kind of annoyed?
[05:37] <Scott_S> soc42: I'm not annoyed at all. :) Just a friendly greeting.
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, unity?
[05:38] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: so...  I installed all of them except one.. because apparently I can't install it..libtiff5-dev
[05:38] <soc42> currently the host os is mac os
[05:38] <patrick99e99> "Package libtiff5-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[05:38] <zymaster> anyone have any idea what would solve? thx if you can help this is very frystrating. if you guys missed what my problem was I have an alienware m14x and every time I try to play some sound, my speakers just start making this clicking noise and Itried all of the power save settings others have suggested
[05:39] <ahmad_> MestreLion, i got it on my ultrabook its set to function key + shift + page up
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> zymaster did it just start happening?
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, There is one for the gnome-shell that works up to 12.04
[05:39] <Scott_S> zymaster: Have you checked your sound settings to ensure that you have selected the appropriate output?
[05:39] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: then unfortunately the dependencies changed from quantal to precise. you may try to do a dget with quantal's libtiff5-dev
[05:39] <soc42> Scott_S: thank you very much! i really prefer beeing friendly at all
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> zymaster: did u update recently
[05:39] <ahmad_> MestreLion, thank you :)
[05:39] <Scott_S> soc42: You are very welcome, I am glad it worked.
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> same thing happened to me
[05:39] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: how does one do that?
[05:39] <klaxtr> yes unity
[05:39] <zymaster> johnjacobjingerh: yep
[05:39] <Scott_S> patrick99e99: If you are unable to install the package via apt-get, it is possible to download the source and do a "make && make install"
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> yep same thing happened to me after last update on my M16x
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> i reinstalled ubuntu and never did the update
[05:39] <localg0d> I accidentally copied a file to my root folder and then back out of the root folder and now the files won't show up ..
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> problem solved
[05:40] <patrick99e99> Scott_S: the libtiff5-dev package you mean?
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> i dunno what update caused it tho
[05:40] <Scott_S> patrick99e99: That is correct.
[05:40] <zymaster> Scott_S: I am on the right output
[05:40] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: the same way you did with imagemagick itself...  go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/, search for it, dget its .dsc file, etc etc
[05:40] <localg0d> can someone please help me get ownership back of my files an the folder ? like chown or sudo chown ? how do i do it again ?
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> chmod localg0d
[05:40] <Scott_S> zymaster: That's very odd... It's possible that the device drivers are not installed. Do you know what sound board your laptop uses?
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> oh wait
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> sorry... chown yea
[05:41] <MestreLion> Scott_S: he is trying to upgrade his imagemagick. I suggested backporting from quantal instead of using vanilla upstream
[05:41] <johnjacobjingerh> sudo chown <username> /file/name/here i think
[05:41] <Scott_S> zymaster: correction ** It's possible the built-in drivers on the Linux kernel aren't proper.
[05:41] <Scott_S> MestreLion: Ahhh, I see. I can't help too much there, I'm not -that- knowledgeable haha.
[05:41] <riqdiiz> what's backporting?
[05:42] <MestreLion> riqdiiz: instaling a version from a more recent release in a previous one
[05:42] <zymaster> Creative Sound Blaster Recon3Di High-Definition 5.1 Audio
[05:42] <thesadmafioso> hi room
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> riqdiiz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backporting
[05:43] <soc42> Scott_S: yup. vmware tools installed successfully, thanksalot
[05:43] <Scott_S> soc42: You're welcome.
[05:43] <Scott_S> zymaster: I'm doing a little research. Give me a minute.
[05:43] <zymaster> ok thanks I will see if I can find a solution as well
[05:45] <localg0d> johnjacobjingerh, : chmod ???
[05:45] <thesadmafioso> I'm considering upgrading to 12.04 from 10.04 and have a few questions
[05:45] <soc42> how can i change the keyboard layout to match my local preferences?
[05:45] <Scott_S> zymaster: Have you done the following >> http://pastebin.com/ZNn5Hw9K
[05:45] <riqdiiz> thanks got it.
[05:45] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d, i was wrong misread ur question
[05:45] <johnjacobjingerh> chown changes ownership
[05:45] <localg0d> johnjacobjingerh, : i want localg0d to be the owner .. what would the syntax b ?
[05:45] <thesadmafioso> I've never done an upgrade before, will I be able to keep all my installed third party software and things like bookmarks?
[05:45] <Scott_S> soc42: Press the Windows key and type in 'Keyboard Layout'
[05:46] <johnjacobjingerh> chmod changes permissions
[05:46] <Scott_S> thesadmafioso: What version of Ubuntu are you upgrading from? Generally, it is highly recommended to do a clean install.
[05:46] <kunji> Hmm, I know it's kinda off topic, but would anyone know why the performance of https://launchpad.net/gl-cairo-simple  degrades very quickly as the window size is increased.  The default size has quite good performance, but when fullscreen it crawls and uses close to 100% CPU.  Also, is this typical for relatively simple constructions with Cairo, or do you think something else is at fault (the openGL or SDL compnents?)?  Or could this be a p
[05:46] <Tech-1> thesadmafioso-  i prolly wouldnt advise that
[05:46] <zymaster> Scott_S: Thx trying it now. I will reboot and be right back
[05:46] <Tech-1> totally different monstor
[05:47] <thesadmafioso> Scott_S: I am upgrading from 10.04 to the newest LTS release 12.0r
[05:47] <Scott_S> kunji: I'd assume because as you increase the size of the window you increase the resolution, thus increasing the load on CPU/GU.
[05:47] <Scott_S> GPU **
[05:47] <thesadmafioso> Scott_S: 12.04
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso, You will have to check if the 3rd party runs in 12.04, if ppas turn them on, book marks hard to say if you mean in nautilus, you will have a new desktop, probably.
[05:48] <thesadmafioso> I guess I could just back that stuff up to a flash drive
[05:48] <Scott_S> thesadmafioso: Honestly, it's a better idea to simply reinstall the apps after a clean installs. Distribution upgrades are... well, hectic, in my personal opinion.
[05:48] <thesadmafioso> Scott_S: That's what I'm afraid of haha
[05:48] <riqdiiz> while navigating must you types all the hirachy tree to the file you want to open?
[05:48] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH this is soooo annoying.  Everything has a missing dependency.  First its libjbig-dev.. then I install that.. then its libtool..  then I install that.. then it still tells me libjbig-dev is missing or in conflict
[05:48] <Scott_S> zymaster: Has that resolved your issue?
[05:48] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: are you still here? I managed to do it
[05:48] <kunji> Scott_S: yeah, I guessed that much, I guess I was just wondering why it drops off that badly, considering that the example is fairly simple, i.e. why does this get so bad while running SCII in Wine will still get 60 ish fps on my system
[05:48] <zymaster> Scott_S: Sadly it has not resolved anything ):
[05:48] <thesadmafioso> wilee-nilee: I really don't like the unity desktop and would rather use GNOME of cinnamon
[05:49] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d sorry for the delay... are u trying to take ownership of an entire directory or a single file?
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso, I would not upgrade without a clone of the original myself, I always fresh install.
[05:49] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: still here.. but not having any success
[05:49] <patrick99e99> im stuck on dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: cdbs (>= 0.4.106~) libjbig-dev
[05:49] <patrick99e99> I cant get that to go away
[05:49] <Scott_S> zymaster: I'm sorry for that. :( I'd guess it is due to the built-in drivers do not fully support that chip.
[05:49] <localg0d> the entire folder like
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso, Just be aware that cinnamon is not supported here.
[05:49] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d, and everything in the folder?
[05:49] <thesadmafioso> wilee-nilee: right ;)
[05:49] <zymaster> Scott_S: Ok I will poke around see if I can find some proprietary drivers
[05:49] <johnjacobjingerh> (directory excuse me)
[05:49] <localg0d> like " sudo chown /home/localg0d/desktop/folder1" but it says doesn't work ..
[05:50] <johnjacobjingerh> well u have no username
[05:50] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: that is good. now you need the same with  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/j/jbigkit/jbigkit_2.0-2ubuntu1.dsc
[05:50] <johnjacobjingerh> sudo chown <username> /folder/name/and/location/here
[05:50] <Scott_S> !chown
[05:50] <soc42> Scott_S: sorry, didn't work changing the keyboard locale with your hint
[05:50] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: yeah but I did that already..
[05:50] <johnjacobjingerh> sudo chown localg0d /home/localg0d/desktop/folder1
[05:50] <patrick99e99> and apparently it wasnt good enough?
[05:51] <patrick99e99> trying again
[05:51] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: this only happened because: 1) Imagemagick has a *huge* dependency list, and 2) those dependencies changed a bit from qualtal to precise
[05:51] <Scott_S> soc42: That's very odd, as that is the locale settings area... Let me check some more stuff then.
[05:51] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: but in my system, only 3 dget's were necessary:
[05:51] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d, also i'm sure the messsage didnt say "it doesnt work"
[05:51] <johnjacobjingerh> it prob says what the issue is in the error
[05:51] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: https://gist.github.com/621b881ab1f04a9385ec
[05:51] <johnjacobjingerh> or at least gives u a clue
[05:51] <patrick99e99> I get all those warnings
[05:52] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: jbigkit-0, libtiff5 and imagemagick itself
[05:52] <johnjacobjingerh> but localg0d if you want to be owner of everything in that folder as well as the folder you need to use the -r flag
[05:52] <Scott_S> soc42: Is it because the locale you are looking for is not listed?
[05:52] <patrick99e99> and then tiff still says dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: cdbs (>= 0.4.106~) libjbig-dev
[05:52] <johnjacobjingerh> soooo.... sudo chown -r localg0d /folder/location/here
[05:52] <localg0d> soo do u mind typing out the syntax / like / chown -r
[05:52] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: great, it worked... you may check that now you have some .debs in your build dir :)
[05:52] <localg0d> ahhh ok thank u !
[05:52] <Bustacap> How can I get the sound indicator back onto my taskbar?
[05:53] <bhavana> hi
[05:53] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I do have some debs..
[05:53] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you need to install those required .DEB
[05:53] <patrick99e99> so what do I do with the debs?
[05:53] <MestreLion> double-click them :)
[05:53] <soc42> if i type:  sudo locale-gen i can only find locales beginning with "en_..." like "en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date"
[05:53] <bhavana> how to find new  themes in drupal?
[05:54] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I'm in a terminal.. no double clicking here
[05:54] <Scott_S> If you installing multiple: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:54] <localg0d> it's sayng ambiguous or invalid argument johnjacobjingerh
[05:54] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: or, since you're already in command-line, sudo dpkg -i *deb
[05:54] <soc42> Scott_S: i guess i'll have to install additional ones first, but how?
[05:54] <Scott_S> soc42: One moment, I'll check.
[05:54] <patrick99e99> ok tiff now says dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: cdbs (>= 0.4.106~)
[05:55] <openbees> bhavana : I think its Ubuntu channel .. try #Drupal :P
[05:55] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: sudo apt-get install cdbs
[05:55] <Scott_S> soc42: Under the 'Keyboard Layout' menu, there is a Plus (+) sign. Click on that to view a list of locales.
[05:55] <bhavana> k.thanku
[05:55] <johnjacobjingerh> sorry localg0d try -R
[05:55] <johnjacobjingerh> capital R not lowercase
[05:55] <Bustacap> How do I add to the taskbar panel? I tried alt+right click and I don't get the menu.
[05:56] <riqdiiz> while navigating must you types all the hirachy tree to the file you want to open?
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> Bustacap, You have unity?
[05:56] <soc42> Scott_S: oh wait... are your hints targeting Unity Desktop Environment? i am still in CLI mode, didn't install any X-Window yet
[05:56] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: sigh... that did not work..  And so I tried the dsc version of it
[05:56] <localg0d> no luck bro
[05:56] <patrick99e99> and now it tells me dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: dh-buildinfo realpath python-dev python-all-dev python3-all-dev ant default-jdk sharutils
[05:56] <Bustacap> riqdiiz what is unity?
[05:56] <patrick99e99> this feels like it will never end
[05:56] <Scott_S> !unity
[05:56] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d can u tell me what it says
[05:56] <johnjacobjingerh> ?
[05:57] <patrick99e99> trying to install those now...
[05:57] <Bustacap> I have whatever 12.04 has.
[05:57] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: the pattern is: install all dependencies, either using "apt-get build-dep <your package>" (easier, but may not be available), or "apt-get install <dep1> <dep2>.. ", or dget + build + dpkg (install) them
[05:57] <DaemonicApathy> riqdiiz: you can use * for some of the levels if you like
[05:57] <mha> ubottu, Bustacap: to see a Gnome 2 experience; Install Mate desktop... http://mate-desktop.org/
[05:57] <mha> Scott_S: ^ :]
[05:57] <DaemonicApathy> e.g. cd /*/*/*/file
[05:58] <johnjacobjingerh> also the other thing to note is if the file or folder is on an NTFS drive i dont think it will work with Unix/Linux permissions, but perhaps someone can correct me if i am mistaken
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> Bustacap, 12.04 doesn't have add ons for the top panel, there are ppa's that have apps that wil show there though.
[05:58] <Scott_S> mha: Someone asked what Unity was, I used Ubottu to answer.
[05:58] <orlok> Can anybody tell me exactly what requirements libpasswordqc needs to be satisfied?
[05:58] <mha> aha
[05:58] <orlok> I cant see a config file or similar for it
[05:58] <zymaster> extra info. If I plug in headphones I have no problem so its just for my speakers.
[05:58] <thesadmafioso1> does anyone know if when downloading updates from official repositories if the connections are through SSL or otherwise secure?
[05:58] <klaxtr> sorry got disconected
[05:59] <mha> klaxtr: we still love you.
[05:59] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: this may be a pain, but it is expected. you said you have a vanilla VM install, and ubuntu has very few development packages out-of the box. but whenever you see "unmet dependencies: a b c", you simply "apt-get install a b c"
[05:59] <orlok> libppasswdqc, even
[05:59] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: copy and paste the list
[05:59] <thesadmafioso1> mha: haha
[05:59] <riqdiiz> will it land you to the target ?
[05:59] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, i believe it depends on the repo but if they start with https then it is ssl
[05:59] <localg0d> johnjacobjingerh, thanks but it ain't working im going to bed .. ill ask again tmro when im more wide awake bro
[05:59] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: got it...  its 78% done
[05:59] <DaemonicApathy> riqdiiz: It always works for me.
[05:59] <klaxtr> mha: aww thanx but who are you
[05:59] <mha> thesadmafioso1: the packages distributed are signed.
[05:59] <Scott_S> Sorry guys, I want to help more, but I've gotta get some sleep. :) Work in the morning. Best of luck to all.
[05:59] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: yeah, that's what got me wondering because I noticed some ppa's are just HTTP
[05:59] <mha> thesadmafioso1: man apt-key
[06:00] <klaxtr> show me some love and tell me how to autohide the unity panel
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso1, The repos are secure.
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu's anyway
[06:00] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: some packages have the same dependencies in both quantal and precise... some require you to install a few.. and some, a lot... you're just unluck that imagemagick changed so much in the last 6 months :P
[06:00] <johnjacobjingerh> then they are not ssl
[06:00] <klaxtr> my heart made out of a robot will thank you
[06:00] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, does it matter though?
[06:00] <kunji> Scott_S: thanks for taking a quick stab at the Cairo stuff, I know it gets complicated and you were trying to help others at the same time, sleep well
[06:00] <thesadmafioso1> mha:now I think I see why I couldn't see those PPA keys I grabbed in my typical list using GPG
[06:00] <DaemonicApathy> klaxtr: Which version of Ubuntu?
[06:00] <kunji> lol... just missed him
[06:00] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok done!
[06:01] <klaxtr> 12.04
[06:01] <patrick99e99> so now I go back and do the imagemagick dsc ?
[06:01] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: have you installed the .DEBs you have just built?
[06:01] <DaemonicApathy> klaxtr: System Settings>Appearance>Behavior, select Autohide
[06:01] <DaemonicApathy> Rather, turn it on.
[06:01] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: well, yes, it does to me for several reasons
[06:01] <mha> Finally got 3.6.3 built with tresor + grsecurity, and got virtualbox to play along. whi.
[06:02] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: MestreLion the only debs I see are the ones I already had installed..  jbigkit, libjbig
[06:02] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, i'm curious to know why it matters if it's SSL or not
[06:02] <JamoBox> Hey guys, I've just used wubi to install ubuntu alongside windows on my PC, but when I try and select ubuntu from WIndows Boot Manager, a black screen shows saying that windows could not boot properly. Is there a way to get rid of this? I can't start ubuntu up because of it.
[06:02] <johnjacobjingerh> they are just repos... it's not like u're sending ur credit card number :-P
[06:02] <klaxtr> i mean the pannel on top where the time is
[06:02] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacbojingerh: it's more because I'm interested in privacy and security
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> JamoBox, Wubi is a inside of windows install.
[06:02] <DaemonicApathy> klaxtr: Ah, sorry about that. I don't think it's an option with Unity.
[06:03] <msx> hi everybody! does any1 been able to run 12.10 on a virtualbox VM _and_ make the virtualbox extensions work? so far 12.04 works as expected (also all previous releases) but i can't make the new bird work so far :P
[06:03] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, ummm... you dont pass anything to them so it isnt unsecure
[06:03] <johnjacobjingerh> u only retrieve information
[06:03] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: so...  How do I tell this imagemagick dsc to use the libtiff5-dev I installed already?
[06:03] <johnjacobjingerh> it's not like it contains anything "private" if you will
[06:03] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: it will try them automatically
[06:03] <JamoBox> wilee-nilee: Yeah, I select ubuntu from WBM but I just get an error saying that windows didn't boot; it's like its cockblocking ubuntu from starting up
[06:03] <klaxtr> thanx DaemonicApathy
[06:04] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: they're still passing things to you though . . . and who knows who's sitting in between the two of you?
[06:04] <johnjacobjingerh> yes but it contains nothing private
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> JamoBox, Please do not use that language.
[06:04] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ummm... that imagemagick dsc still gives me "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libtiff5-dev"
[06:04] <patrick99e99> same as before
[06:04] <klaxtr> mha : you see no love from unity to us... we are nothing, nothing at all
[06:04] <JamoBox> wilee-nilee: Sorry, only term I could think of to describe it
[06:04] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: actually, it's the other way around: the dsc file tells you that it requires libtiff5-dev to be installed. And since you just built and installed it, it should work
[06:04] <johnjacobjingerh> so all it sees is u requested a page
[06:04] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: right but it could contain something malicious or have something malicious injected into it on its way
[06:04] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: so-- what do I do now?
[06:04] <johnjacobjingerh> essentially
[06:05] <johnjacobjingerh> so could HTTPS
[06:05] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: as improbable as that is
[06:05] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: are you sure you installed libtiff5-dev's .deb ?
[06:05] <johnjacobjingerh> https doesnt stop something from being malicious
[06:05] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I don't have a libtiff5 deb
[06:05] <JamoBox> wilee-nilee: But any ideas how to stop it from preventing ubuntu loading? It's like it doesn't want any OS other than windows running
[06:05] <johnjacobjingerh> it stops people on your network from sniffing the traffic tho
[06:05] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: have you tried to build it?
[06:05] <johnjacobjingerh> like if you were entering a username and password for example it'd block that
[06:06] <johnjacobjingerh> but none of those repos require you to do that
[06:06] <johnjacobjingerh> anyone can put malicious stuff on https as well
[06:06] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: yes, I'm aware that it only stops people from sniffing packets/traffic
[06:06] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: what do you mean?
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso1, Like what is going to be injected, your just using a as if argument, this has never happened, and it is off topic.
[06:07] <thesadmafioso1> wilee-nilee: I never asserted that I was using it for anything other than the sake of argument.
[06:07] <patrick99e99> when I searched for libtiff5 on the packages list, it gave me tiff_4.0.02
[06:07] <soc42> Scott_S: to change the default keyboard to match your local keyboard, use:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[06:07] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, i think you are overly worried (like the risk is non-existent), but if you are concerned, by all means change them to have https:// instead of http
[06:07] <thesadmafioso1> wilee-nilee: purely hypothetical and just something I was WONDERING about.
[06:07] <patrick99e99> which I installed.. but I never got a deb
[06:07] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: since there is no libtiff5-dev in precise, you need to dget (and build, and install) its .dsc, the same way you did with libjbig0
[06:07] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso1, It is offtopic take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[06:07] <johnjacobjingerh> then make sure they actually work
[06:07] <thesadmafioso1> wilee-nilee: ha, ok. didn't know about that.
[06:07] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: yeah I did that
[06:08] <patrick99e99> but like I said:
[06:08] <patrick99e99> http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/libtiff5-dev
[06:08] <johnjacobjingerh> no way of knowing if the server has https or not
[06:08] <patrick99e99> on the right side it gives me tiff_4.0.2-1ubuntu2.dsc
[06:08] <patrick99e99> which I installed with dget
[06:08] <johnjacobjingerh> but anyhoo... moving on before i get yelled at
[06:08] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: no problem
[06:08] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: ok, did dget output any error? it was supposed to generate some debs
[06:09] <soc42> Scott_S: now all keystrokes showup in CLI as expected – what certainly helps a lot - much better than guessing ;o)
[06:10] <JamoBox> So anyone have any ideas about my problem? I get an error message at WBM when I try and load ubuntu saying that "windows did not load"; and the error blocks me from trying to get onto ubuntu
[06:11] <MestreLion> WBM?
[06:11] <thesadmafioso1> ok well thanks all for the advice on an upgrade
[06:11] <JamoBox> Windows Boot Manager
[06:11] <MestreLion> oh, Wubi... eww :P
[06:11] <JamoBox> Yeah :l
[06:11] <Boston> Hey how do i get on other servers??
[06:12] <MestreLion> Boston: care to be more specific?
[06:13] <Boston> im not gonna lie im completley new to xchat
[06:14] <MestreLion> Boston: you can join another channel with /j #channelname
[06:14] <MestreLion> as in /j #xchat
[06:14] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: yes.. apparently its complaining about cdbs again
[06:14] <andrewaclt> Boston, ctrl-t to open a new server tab and then type /server server.com
[06:14] <MestreLion> folks there can help you with all other xchat issues
[06:14] <MestreLion> andrewaclt: wow, nice hint :D
[06:15] <Boston> like irc.trolol.net
[06:15] <MestreLion> i always used Xchat > Network List > Add ... etc
[06:15] <johnjacobjingerh> i'm from boston
[06:15] <johnjacobjingerh> lol
[06:16] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: check the version you have installed against the one required
[06:16] <andrewaclt> Well, sure, if you add it via the gui then it's persistent and you don't have to do it manually
[06:16] <Boston> ha my friends call me Boston because I always wear a boston redsoxs hat
[06:16] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: apt-cache policy cdbs
[06:16] <johnjacobjingerh> oh... i'm sorry then... should prob take it off about now
[06:16] <johnjacobjingerh> they are doing terrible
[06:17] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: if the required version is greater than the one installed... you know what to do :P
[06:17] <ferlegend> hey
[06:18] <ferlegend> i Have a question
[06:19] <ferlegend> community in Guatemala we are thinking of doing a translation for that ubuntu is also available in our most lenjuages
[06:19] <ferlegend> my question is
[06:19] <ferlegend> how i can do this
[06:22] <klaxtr> do what?
[06:22] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: https://gist.github.com/5f49d0aaf0b427eee70c
[06:23] <InstantKrimson> ferlegend: I don't know much about this, but you can start checking this out: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved/non-technical-users
[06:23] <patrick99e99> what do I know what to do?
[06:23] <somsip> ferlegend: this might help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase
[06:23] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you have cdbs 0.4.100ubuntu2, you need  cdbs (>= 0.4.106~)
[06:24] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: right..
[06:24] <Dan39> hello i have ubuntu 12.04 server from ovh. it seems they have BIND installed and running by default.. do i really need this installed? i run some basic websites with apache2, dont think i need BIND, and it takes while to startup on boot :|
[06:24] <patrick99e99> but I just tried to dget [cdbs_0.4.111ubuntu1.dsc]
[06:24] <patrick99e99> and it's not doing anything..
[06:25] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: hint: quantal's cdbs is 0.4.111 ;)
[06:25] <ferlegend> thank you very much interesting is that it is one of our projects here in Guatemala
[06:25] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: paste the command and output
[06:25] <patrick99e99> I did.. it's in that gist
[06:26] <patrick99e99> https://gist.github.com/5f49d0aaf0b427eee70c
[06:26] <johnjacobjingerh> Dan39 it's a dns server
[06:26] <ferlegend> somsip if the project is to translate esque entire operating system
[06:26] <johnjacobjingerh> Dan39, do u use your server as a dns server ?
[06:26] <Dan39> johnjacobjingerh: yes i kinda know what it is..
[06:26] <soc42> i am watching a video on the ubuntu HUD feature... looks a lot like 'Alfred' for Mac
[06:26] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you forgot to install it
[06:27] <Dan39> no i dont think so
[06:27] <soc42> if your totally new to ubuntu, which x-window manager would you suggest?
[06:27] <johnjacobjingerh> Dan39 then probably dont need it
[06:28] <Dan39> ill just disable it first
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> Soc45 X-Window manager?
[06:28] <Dan39> anything bad happens i can just re-enable :P
[06:28] <soc42> what are the main differences between gnome, kde, lxde, xfce, unity etc... ?
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> u mean desktop environment soc42 ?
[06:28] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: oh... another deb...
[06:28] <soc42> or is just a matter of personal habits
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> they all look different and it's a matter of which u like
[06:28] <MestreLion> soc42: if one is totally new to ubuntu, I would suggest not messing with x-window managers and use the default until you're not totally new to ubuntu :)
[06:28] <soc42> johnjacobjingerh: yup, desktop environments...
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> XFCE is very light weight
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> unity is apart of GNOME
[06:28] <Dan39> very? i dunno about very, but its pretty light weight :p
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> GNOME reminds me of the older classic macs
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> but KDE kinda resembles windows (at least when I used it)
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i prefer GNOME over the rest
[06:29] <Dan39> unity is piece of junk IMO
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> but XFCE is great if u have old hardware
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i dont like unity
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i use GNOME classic
[06:29] <Dan39> go with KDE :P
[06:29] <Dan39> or xfce
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> yuck
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> on KDE
[06:29] <Dan39> :|
[06:30] <johnjacobjingerh> i just used it and hated it
[06:30] <johnjacobjingerh> switched back to gnome
[06:30] <Dan39> i swear i recall 5 years ago gnome and kde working much better, but o well
[06:30] <MestreLion> soc42: using virtual machines or multi-boot you can easily try them all. They all serve the same purpose: to manage your desktop environment, so take a look at each (and use each for a day or a week) then stick with the one that most pleases you
[06:30] <johnjacobjingerh> gnome most pleases you soc42 trust me
[06:31] <MestreLion> johnjacobjingerh: gnome is great, but why trust you if he can play with them all by himself?
[06:31] <soc42> johnjacobjingerh: hehe, i am always open for critics & suggestions
[06:31] <johnjacobjingerh> i dont have a good reason
[06:31] <johnjacobjingerh> but i know i should be trusted
[06:31] <MestreLion> soc42: install them all and try by yourself
[06:32] <junior> hi
[06:32] <soc42> MestreLion: i will, that's a really good hint
[06:32] <MestreLion> soc42: use a virtual box, or install in different partitions
[06:32] <johnjacobjingerh> actually u dont even need a virtual machine or multi-boot
[06:32] <johnjacobjingerh> u can install them all and select them at the login session
[06:33] <johnjacobjingerh> i have KDE and GNOME on mine
[06:33] <MestreLion> johnjacobjingerh: i never tried this approach... do they all play nicely when installed togheter?
[06:33] <johnjacobjingerh> yea
[06:33] <junior> @MestreLion ola
[06:33] <johnjacobjingerh> they play fine
[06:33] <MestreLion> I always think it will create a huge mess :)
[06:33] <johnjacobjingerh> eh.. they can be a pain to remove sometimes
[06:34] <johnjacobjingerh> and they do take up space
[06:34] <MestreLion> space is not an issue... it's far less than separate distro installs
[06:34] <johnjacobjingerh> yea
[06:35] <johnjacobjingerh> but seeing that they are harder to remove than virutal machines it might be easier to use a VM
[06:35] <Hootch> hey, how can i show the desktop with kde? shortcut?
[06:36] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok its actually installing!!!
[06:36] <patrick99e99> (imagemagick)
[06:36] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: congratulations :D
[06:36] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: my question now is--  how do I make sure the previous 6.7.5 version I installed with configure/make/make install doesn't get run?
[06:37] <johnjacobjingerh> remove it
[06:37] <DaemonicApathy> patrick99e99: Uninstall it.
[06:37] <johnjacobjingerh> lol
[06:37] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: this whole workflow may be a pain, but its MUCH more secure and stable in many ways than using upstream source
[06:37] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: depends on how did you install it. you may try "sudo make uninstall" and pray it there is an uninstall
[06:38] <MestreLion> that's why I rarely install tuff this way... there's no way to guarantee a clean removal
[06:38] <soc42> at least i see one blink of red marked [fails] in the bootup screen, but it's going away too fast...
[06:38] <MestreLion> the .DEB way is the most trouble free way :)
[06:38] <soc42> how do i know what's going on there?
[06:39] <DaemonicApathy> soc42: check your system logs
[06:39] <MestreLion> soc42: soc42: actually, I suggest separate partitions... ok, it's not as easy as VMs, but VM is not your actual hardware, so your experience may not be the same as with a real install
[06:40] <MestreLion> soc42: for example, Unity requires 3D, and in a VM it may fallback to the 2D version... same may happen with other desktops
[06:41] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: to check out which version is running, try any of imagemagic's commands with --version
[06:41] <soc42> MestreLion: i see, the Desktop Environments depends heavily on graphic card, OpenGL features etc...
[06:42] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: yeah.. waiting for it to finish installing
[06:42] <MestreLion> soc42: exactly... and in a VM you don't have those (or have to configure them). So for a fair test trial you may install each in its own, real partition.. and multiboot
[06:44] <soc42> is ext4-fs the default filesystem on ubuntu?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> soc42: Yes.
[06:45] <MestreLion> since 2010
[06:45] <soc42> the blinking bootup fail was 'EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errprs=remount-ro"
[06:45] <soc42> -p+o
[06:46] <MestreLion> soc42: there may have erros in that hard drive...
[06:46] <soc42> but it's a VM?
[06:47] <MestreLion> maybe the VM file is corrupted?
[06:48] <soc42> mmmh... it's a totally fresh install... i hope you're wrong ;o)
[06:49] <MestreLion> it's really weird for a freshly created VM to re-mount a partition due to errors
[06:49] <Jordan_U> soc42: Boot from a LiveCD and fsck the filesystem.
[06:51] <voldyman> i need to auto mount a ntfs partition in the home folder and be able to compile projects.
[06:51] <voldyman> can anyone help me with the fstab file statement ?
[06:51] <bin_bash> !ask | voldyman
[06:52] <voldyman> bin_bash, i asked the question. :-)
[06:52] <Jordan_U> voldyman: What type of projects? Many build systems probably depend on POSIX semantics which aren't available when using ntfs.
[06:52] <bin_bash> that's not specific
[06:52] <voldyman> i have vala projects
[06:53] <voldyman> vala compiles to c and c to binary
[06:53] <voldyman> Jordan_U, i use cmake
[06:55] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: I'm curious.. did it work?
[06:55] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: still installing....
[06:55] <patrick99e99> sooo slow