[00:00] <CountryfiedLinux> I'll check that out. Thanks oerheks .
[00:01] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh and Hide Top Bar extension doesn't work right with Ubuntu Dock. It covers the top part of it when not hidden.
[00:38] <NeuhNeuh> Hello !
[00:42] <NeuhNeuh> Hello !
[00:43] <NeuhNeuh> I have a small question :) I have scripts run into /etc/aliases (process are run as « nobody » user). Its possible to change this user ? (I use postfix)
[00:43] <shachaf> Is it possible to install Ubuntu with encrypted root, dual-booting with Windows, and using a common UEFI system partition for /boot?
[00:43] <shachaf> I tried setting it up manually and Ubiquity crashed.
[00:44] <shachaf> This seems like it must be a pretty common use case?
[01:01] <centopeia> oi
[01:17] <AmaZed> i got a machine with a wireless card, and network card. sftp server works while wifi is on, but using hardwire sftp will not connect
[01:18] <zeon98> Hello
[01:19] <zeon98> I’m in the incorrect channel I’m sure but I’m failing with irc. Can someone tell me if you can see my messages
[01:20] <sonicwind> yes
[01:20] <zeon98> Thank you sonicwind
[01:20] <sonicwind> no prob
[01:20] <zeon98> It’s taken me the last half hour to get this to connect
[01:23] <zeon98> Is this channel just for Ubuntu os questions
[01:24] <sonicwind> yup
[01:24] <sonicwind> what operating system do you use?
[01:24] <zeon98> Ubuntu mostly
[01:25] <zeon98> A little puppy
[01:25] <sonicwind> cool
[01:25] <zeon98> But right now I’m using a tablet, hence the fight to connect
[01:25] <zeon98> You?
[01:26] <sonicwind> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[01:49] <pressure679> Noob question: Are the files in /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset configurable? (Ubuntu 18.04)
[01:59] <oerheks> pressure679, i hope so .. https://codywu2010.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/cpuset-by-example/
[02:31] <boblamont> I'm using lubuntu, I installed Konsole because it has an "Open with File Manger" option, but when I use it, it opens SoundConverter, not PCManFM, is there a way to connect konsole to the fm without using kde?
[02:45] <transhuman> hi! anyone know if there is a quick way to enable host to VM networking capability in Ubuntu 18.04 with KVM host and guests
[02:45] <transhuman> looking to do this temporarily
[02:53] <waltman> I'm having trouble printing from my Mac. I just discovered that when CUPS tries to print something it converts it to a PDF and leaves it in /tmp, so I've been able to determine that it's a font problem. But I don't know how to fix it.
[02:54] <waltman> I printed the same simple web page from ubuntu and from the mac. The ubuntu pdf has fonts LiberationSerif and LiberationSerif-Bold. The mac pdf has PFIADN+Times-Roman and PFIADN+Times-Bold.
[02:55] <thedarkanon> is it possible to use CUDA while using a prime intel profile?
[02:55] <thedarkanon> because like I want CUDA but my laptop only lasts 50 minutes battery when I have nvidia card enabled
[02:55] <waltman> If I open the pdf in xpdf, it uses the liberation fonts and I can print from inside there and it looks fine. But if I just run "lpr bad.pdf" the fonts are all boxes.
[02:56] <waltman> Anyone know if it's possible to get CUPS to use the right fonts? This was all working in 17.10 but broke in 18.04.
[03:04] <floatsmahgoat> Is there an ubuntu related offtopic chat
[03:05] <SporkWitch> !offtopic | floatsmahgoat
[03:11] <oerheks> i think that is what actually happens with cuda, you use the onboard intel *plus* the nvidia for cuda..
[03:13] <pressure679> oerheks: I found some webarticles too about this topic (cgroup configuration), but it seems one has to have full code space/time complexity analysis and library dependency analysis, and share memory (if they don't) instead of objects. - I am not sure though.
[03:13] <pressure679> objects as in .so files.
[03:14] <pressure679> I could be wrong if whether or not software bundles do this by source though.
[03:16] <pressure679> - The motive of my question is to optimize Linux/Ubuntu.
[03:18] <pressure679> I am not sure how each Linux distro handles .so files, if they do (and not the linux kernel), and how they derive values from the .so files.
[03:19] <pressure679> But at least there are .so files for single programs, and after what I read libgnu does not share c types over software bundle if they do not communicate memory.
[03:20] <pressure679> But after what I have experienced hardware might as well do this as well as the OS.
[03:43] <Novus_> howdy/
[03:44] <Novus_> is unity in 18.04?
[03:45] <Novus_> it's been a while since I used ubuntu
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> Novus_: 18.04 has now gnome by default
[03:47] <Novus_> \o\ horay!
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> Novus_: with a few tweaks you can install unity desktop on 18.04 aswell
[03:47] <sezydude> fuck me
[03:47] <sezydude> I NEED NIGGERS TO WORK MY PLANTATION
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !ops | sezydude
[03:47] <sezydude> I NEED NIGGERS TO WORK MY FUCKING PLANTATION
[03:47] <Bashing-om> Novus_: Well, yes and no for unity . the default in 18.04 os gnome3 - unity is now maintained ny the community and is available in the universe repo .
[03:48] <Novus_> nah,.. I'm good.. I'm super happy gnome :D
[03:48] <Novus_> Hell I'd really like to have KDE but is good
[03:49] <Bashing-om> Novus_: Have you seen what the wayland DE is like ?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> Novus_: wayland is also installed in 18.04 :)
[03:52] <Novus_> nah,.. it's been a while really.. I left when unity was brought into ubuntu
[03:52] <Novus_> what was that like ver 12?
[03:53] <Novus_> installing ubuntu for GNS3
[03:54] <Bashing-om> Novus_: Hard to recall back that far ,, mabe unity was introduced in 11.10 ?
[03:54] <Novus_> I still have my 9.04 disc sent in the mail, lol
[03:55] <guiverc> ( i recall unity in 11.04 )
[03:55] <IcemanV9> "Ubuntu used Unity by default from 11.04 to 17.04."
[03:56] <Bashing-om> Novus_: Oh do not get me started .. I still have 6.06 - though I did not go to  the ubuntu desktop use 'til 9.04 .
[03:56] <Novus_> 9.10* disc
[03:57] <Novus_> has steam been helping the linux gaming community?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> Novus_: Hugely !
[03:58] <Novus_> paying for games is cool again lol
[03:58] <oerheks> !info ubuntu-unity-desktop
[03:59] <Novus_> I kinda figured once something stable and convenient came out it would be a huge plus for linux
[03:59] <Bashing-om> Monthrecg: All the market will bear :)
[04:00] <Bashing-om> Novus_: ^ sorry for the bad hilight Monthrecg :(
[04:01] <Bashing-om> !steam | Novus_
[04:02] <oerheks> !gog
[04:02] <Novus_> I'm surprised valve hasn't just used ubuntu for it's OS system
[04:03] <Bashing-om> !info steam | Novus_
[04:03] <Novus_> no longer surprised :)
[04:25] <Novus_> does ubuntu have a global chat program in it?
[04:25] <Novus_> like I just thought of something
[04:26] <Novus_> If there was a chat program installed by default where all ubuntu users could interact by default through a master chat server
[04:27] <Bashing-om> !info pidgin | Novus_
[04:31] <IcemanV9> but pidgin is not default app for chat, right? there is no default app for chat as of now. correct?
[04:33] <Novus_> there really should be
[04:34] <Novus_> like,.. it should be part of the OS
[04:39] <guiverc> Novus_, not that long ago, in the lead up to 18.04 a survey was taken as to what should be there - speaking then should would have been more appropriate (https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/09/19/results-of-the-ubuntu-desktop-applications-survey)
[04:39] <Bashing-om> IcemanV9: Novus_ Well - " Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others." . I use irssi for irc chat .
[04:39] <Novus_> I just got back into ubuntu
[04:39] <Novus_> I go way back
[04:39] <Novus_> hell I even have talked to mark directly at one point
[04:39] <IcemanV9> Novus_: agreed ... i'm like you. i haven't used ubuntu (before unity) for years since my little girls destroyed my laptop. i finally got a new laptop and installed 18.04. i was awe in how much they have changed since then. : )
[04:46] <Bashing-om> !flavors | IcemanV9 Novus_ :
[05:31] <happygilmoregent> anyone know how to install the nvidia-304
[05:33] <happygilmoregent> keep getting module doesn't exist as a makefile
[05:35] <happygilmoregent> is there a newer update to bionic badger
[05:41] <happygilmoregent> need some real help because nvidia-304 having issues
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> happygilmoregent: whats going on?
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> happygilmoregent: ubuntu-drivers list to see wich drivers avalaible in your system
[05:58] <happygilmoregent> nouveau but every rendition of nouveau has crashed and nvidia-304
[05:59] <happygilmoregent> it's really shady when it tries to load graphics
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> happygilmoregent: we need more details of what you are trying mate, can you hastebin the output?
[06:01] <Amis> Hello! What is the current alternative to gksudo in 18.x? I want a password prompt when running certain applications and I do not want a terminal window.
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> guiverc_t: one for you ^
[06:03] <happygilmoregent> from using the nvidia.com drivers
[06:04] <happygilmoregent> paste.ubuntu.com/p/BBtn3YxdBr
[06:04] <happygilmoregent> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BBtn3YxdBr
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> happygilmoregent: you dont need to compile drivers, ubuntu has them avalaible for your system
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> happygilmoregent: from a terminal: ubuntu-drivers list
[06:05] <guiverc_t> Amis, looking up info now (pkexec)
[06:06] <happygilmoregent> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6CnVxcsVFn/
[06:07] <happygilmoregent> but nvidia-304.137 doesn't seem to work bionic beaver
[06:07] <guiverc_t> Amis, i'm searching & find many, but not what i'm looking for (eg. http://www.toontricks.com/2018/05/ubuntu-replacing-gksudo-with-pkexec.html , quite a few on askubuntu - but I'm looking for official blogs/notices & currently haven't found..)
[06:07] <Amis> So there is no official alternative. Bugger
[06:08] <sgs_> jxlkf
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> happygilmoregent: does nvidia-304 not work?
[06:08] <sgs_> I want to change my english server setting to russian. How to do that?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> sgs_: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys can help?
[06:08] <guiverc_t> Amis, the decision was made upstream; & pkexec i recall being the replacement in most use cases
[06:08] <sgs_> i cannt found pam_enviroment
[06:09] <happygilmoregent> nope let me put that output in it
[06:09] <Bashing-om> happygilmoregent: nvidia dropped support for tje 304 driver back in 2017. See: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases .
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !ru | sgs_ see also
[06:09] <happygilmoregent> what is the next update
[06:10] <happygilmoregent> should nvidia-331 work the same?
[06:11] <chamara> ciao
[06:11] <happygilmoregent> what's the cheapest nvidia card that's supported
[06:12] <sgs_> lotuspsychje: I didnt got..
[06:12] <Amis> guiverc_t, I guess then this is gksudo now: 'pkexec --user root "${@}"'
[06:12] <Bashing-om> happygilmoregent: What is the card ? the last ubuntu to support the 304 driver was 16.04 : https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[06:12] <happygilmoregent> ok
[06:13] <happygilmoregent> already added it
[06:13] <happygilmoregent> can I get 16.04 and then upgrade to bionic beaver and have no issues
[06:13] <happygilmoregent> ?
[06:14] <guiverc_t> Amis, i haven't used it so aren't equipped to answer sorry... i just read the blogs, discussions about it last year...  (long enough ago my memory is vague)
[06:15] <Bashing-om> happygilmoregent: NO. the last release to support the 304 version driver is 16,04 .. again what is the card ? maybe can use a later driver ?
[06:16] <Bashing-om> happygilmoregent: pastebin ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ' .
[06:18] <happygilmoregent> GEFORCE 6150SE nForce 430
[06:19] <Amis> pkexec actually requires a policy file for each program I want to run so it's not a replacement for gksudo. Anyone know how can I achieve gksudo functionality in 18.x?
[06:20] <happygilmoregent> nvidiafb, nouveau
[06:22] <Bashing-om> happygilmoregent: sorry the 304 version driver is all she wrote . // Time for a new card .. I paid 38 USD for a GT710 card that runs the 384 version driver now .
[06:22] <happygilmoregent> ok
[06:22] <happygilmoregent> thanks
[06:23] <Bashing-om> hateball: Hope I helped :)
[06:28] <guiverc_t> Amis, you can still install & run gksudo, but its depreciated & no guarantees on how long it'll work. I've been looking for the gnome/.. discussions on it but not found what i remember... (https://didrocks.fr/2017/08/21/ubuntu-gnome-shell-in-artful-day-6/ talks about pkexec & alternatives indirectly as well known, but without any details..)
[06:30] <guiverc_t> Amis, this may help (mentions policykit) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/umit/+bug/1740618
[06:34] <hateball> Bashing-om: I am sure you helped happygilmoregent ;p
[06:40] <Bashing-om> hateball: sorry bout that ,, did not notice that the poster had left - not paying attention to my tab complete - again :(
[06:41] <hateball> :D
[06:41] <hateball> Bashing-om: Worse things have happened I am sure :)
[06:44] <mohabaks> hello folks;I have a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/myscript that I want to be executed once the net is up but it fails. Using Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[06:47] <ducasse> mohabaks: have you installed ifupdown manually? it's no longer installed by default in 18.04, so /etc/network isn't used
[06:49] <mohabaks> ducasse: thanks I haven't;Ih have also found out this networkd-dispatcher .
[06:51] <ducasse> mohabaks: you might want to migrate your config to netplan/networkd, then set up a systemd service to do what you want
[06:51] <OlofL> How do I use my printer from within a snap app? (Only office app)
[06:53] <oerheks> OlofL, is you printer installed? and does the office print menu show your printer?
[06:53] <OlofL> oerheks: yes other apps show all printers. onlyoffice only shows print to pdf
[06:54] <ducasse> OlofL: have you tried asking in #snappy?
[06:54] <oerheks> contact the maintainer, seems to be paidhttps://www.onlyoffice.com/apps.aspx
[06:57] <mohabaks> ducasse: thanks ;)
[06:57] <wxy_> hello
[06:58] <oerheks> OlofL, indeed, no printing except to pdf
[06:58] <oerheks> lolz
[06:59]  * oerheks hits 'remove'
[07:00] <OlofL> Whats the best office suite for ubuntu?
[07:00] <OlofL> libreoffice or oopenoffice or something else?
[07:00] <oerheks> the one that is already there..
[07:00] <oerheks> but best is an opinion
[07:01] <OlofL> what do you mean?
[07:04] <ducasse> what's best for you might not be best for someone else
[07:14] <k_sze[work]> Does anybody know why there is a lib64expat1 package when there is already a libexpat1 package (which is already installed on my Xenial 64-bit machine)?
[07:21] <guiverc_t> k_sze[work], i don't know, but looking at https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/lib64expat1 & https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libexpat1; the xy64yz one is for arch!=64bit...
[07:22] <guiverc_t> my guess is it's used when host is 32bit, allowing 64bit execution within jails/containers etc.. but this is guess
[07:22] <oerheks> jups, and the other seems multiarch
[07:32] <owner__> how can i move a file not copy. linux mate
[07:34] <owner__> Can't move a file from 1 folder to another
[07:34] <ducasse> hold shift while you drag and release it
[07:35] <mnr200> What package might have this file al.h, I'm getting an error : AL/al.h: No such file or directory
[07:36] <ducasse> mnr200: libopenal-dev
[07:41] <mnr200> ducasse, thanks it's working
[07:46] <owner__> new to Linux how to move a file from downloads to  videos using right click on mouse
[07:47] <Spookan> owner__: Right click and copy, then paste in the other folder?
[07:47] <zprd> owner__: drag and drop
[07:47] <zprd> copy to or move to
[07:47] <zprd> etc
[07:51] <owner__> how do i add move to on commands with mouse
[07:51] <AikiZen> salut
[07:54] <zprd> salut AikiZen
[07:55] <zprd> aiki? do, jutsu?
[07:55] <AikiZen> je cherche un logiciel pour partager mon écran en streaming, un logiciel libre bien évidamment
[07:55] <AikiZen> avec certainement une mauvaise orthographe de évidamment
[07:55] <zprd> c'est le chan english ici, pour du francais faut aller sur ubuntu-fr
[07:55] <AikiZen> à zut m'est trompé
[07:56] <AikiZen> bye
[07:57] <owner__> crap
[07:58] <zprd> troll
[08:01] <myrat> hi
[08:17] <TetsuEn> Hey, my upgrade from Ubuntu 17.1 to 18.04 is hanging with a locale error. Does anyone have a sec to work through it with me?
[08:18] <TetsuEn> Google hasn't been terribly helpful and I'm reluctant to touch anything with a dist upgrade going on
[08:19] <Allie`> TetsuEn: can you go to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste the contents of the error??
[08:20] <TetsuEn> yep
[08:20] <TetsuEn> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Nr9hpTwRPt/ Here's what the terminal is showing
[08:21] <Allie`> TetsuEn: thanks, i'll have a look rn
[08:21] <TetsuEn> Thanks a bunch
[08:22] <Allie`> TetsuEn: are you SSH'd into this box by any means?
[08:22] <Allie`> by any chance*, even. i need coffee
[08:22] <TetsuEn> Nope, it's the laptop I'm on right now
[08:22] <TetsuEn> Not a server
[08:23] <Allie`> hmmm, because i normally see weirdness like this due to locale mismatches between two machines - i'll dig deeper!
[08:23] <TetsuEn> Much appreciated. If you need me to cat any files just let me know
[08:25] <TetsuEn> I should also note that the upgrade process hasn't ended, I still have a blinking cursor, but it's hung for at least half an hour already
[08:25] <Allie`> TetsuEn: it's okay to hit ctrl+c on this. dist-upgrade is smart
[08:26] <TetsuEn> ok that's great
[08:27] <Allie`> do you know what the locale you're using is?
[08:27] <TetsuEn> Not off the top of my head. I'll check
[08:28] <TetsuEn> I'm American and use English as the display language but I'm located in China so I'm not sure which it's set to
[08:28] <pocketmon> pkg-config --cflags --libs sdl2   <—— what it is?
[08:28] <Allie`> TetsuEn: ha, okay. can you paste the output of the `locale` command to the same website i gave you earlier?
[08:29] <TetsuEn> sure
[08:29] <Allie`> pocketmon: i'll need more information
[08:30] <TetsuEn> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4SJzKqyrfC/
[08:30] <pocketmon>  g++ sdl.cpp `pkg-config --cflags --libs sdl2`   Allie`
[08:30] <TetsuEn> The formatting is ugly as sin
[08:30] <TetsuEn> but that's it
[08:31] <Allie`> pocketmon: aha, there we go! so, `pkg-config` is a reasonably cross-platform way to provide the correct platform-specific compiler flags to a compiler, in your instance, `g++`. in this case, it's adding the appropriate flags to compile with the `sdl2` library!
[08:32] <Allie`> you can actually run `pkg-config --cflags --libs sdl2` and see exactly what flags it's using
[08:33] <Allie`> TetsuEn: and, cat your `/etc/environment`?
[08:34] <TetsuEn> PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[08:35] <Allie`> TetsuEn: okay, try the solution from this answer: https://askubuntu.com/a/817371
[08:35] <pocketmon> Allie`: thanks a lot :)
[08:35] <Allie`> pocketmon: no worries!
[08:36] <TetsuEn> Allie`: ok, I'll try it and let you know. Once I've done it I should re-run the upgrade yeah?
[08:36] <Allie`> yeah, it'll pick up where it left off
[08:36] <TetsuEn> cool
[08:36] <zetheroo> has anyone experience this? LibreOffice in 18.04 showing files as existing but they don't show up in Nautilus or in the terminal?
[08:39] <guiverc_t> zetheroo, do the filenames contain a '.' (fullstop) as first character? by chance?
[08:39] <zetheroo>  guiverc_t: no, they aren't hidden files
[08:40] <Allie`> zetheroo: stupid question, but are you using `ls -a`?
[08:40] <zetheroo> it's as if LibreOffice is looking in another "Home" ...
[08:40] <zetheroo> Allie`: in the term I am using ll
[08:41] <TetsuEn> Allie`: The command sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales hangs after I enter my sudo password :/
[08:41] <TetsuEn> Allie`: It just sits there with a blinking cursor despite my having hit enter
[08:41] <Allie`> TetsuEn: give it a little time, it takes a while
[08:41] <TetsuEn> ah ok
[08:42] <Allie`> zetheroo: try creating a file (`touch file.ext`) in the same directory, and see if you can see that in libreoffice
[08:42] <TetsuEn> Allie`: So it's ok, that it's still sitting on [sudo] password for <usr>: ?
[08:42] <zetheroo> another weird thing is that when wanting to open a file LibreOffice defaults to the /tmp location
[08:43] <zetheroo> Allie`: already tried that - doesn't show up in LO
[08:44] <zetheroo> It's like LO is living in it's own little world :P
[08:44] <guiverc_t> zetheroo, i'd check your "tools options paths" for something unusual in libreoffice...
[08:44] <Allie`> TetsuEn: if you want more info, you can call `dpkg` with `--debug=10` and you'll see it scrolling :P
[08:44] <guiverc_t> (ie. it'll show paths for docs, templates, backups etc..)
[08:45] <zetheroo> I installed this via the Ubuntu Software tool on a fresh install of 18.04 ... this should not be happening
[08:46] <zetheroo> I found where LO is working in: /home/$USER/snap/libreoffice/65/
[08:47] <TetsuEn> Allie`: That's not the problem. Something about the upgrade messed up my terminal. I just tried sudo apt-get search and can't get past entering my sudo password
[08:47] <zetheroo> come on - that broken!
[08:47] <TetsuEn> It's not moving past that
[08:47] <guiverc_t> zetheroo, (this is a guess; but `snap list` to view snaps installed; to ensure you installed the deb libreoffice & not a snap packaged version)
[08:47] <TetsuEn> Allie`: Could it be because I'm running zsh and something went wonky with the upgrade?
[08:47] <Allie`> TetsuEn: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:48] <Allie`> that'll tidy up after the dist-upgrade, just in case something IS squiff
[08:48] <zetheroo> guiverc_t: it's a snap
[08:48] <zetheroo> broken
[08:48] <TetsuEn> Allie`: I can't. Anything run with sudo can't move past entering my password
[08:48] <zetheroo> LO is the number 1 main Office suite for Ubuntu - how was this not tested before going to LTS?
[08:49] <zetheroo> now how do I completely rid my system of this?
[08:49] <TetsuEn> Allie`: I tried sudo echo "Hi" and it did the same thing. Just acts like I haven't entered a password
[08:50] <TetsuEn> Allie`: ok, a new tab can move past it. I'll try those commands again
[08:50] <Allie`> yeah, i think something about that terminal session is bork
[08:52] <TetsuEn> Ugh
[08:52] <Allie`> it happens :P
[08:52] <guiverc_t> zetheroo, you said you installed it using ubuntu software tool; I don't use it, but I've heard it lists snaps & deb packages.  maybe `sudo snap remove libreoffice` (or whatever its called) then `sudo apt install libreoffice`  (https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libreoffice)
[08:52] <TetsuEn> sudo dpkg --configure -a says:   dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[08:53] <TetsuEn> I'll pastebin what the locale reconfigure did
[08:53] <TetsuEn> Allie`: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JPTV6zJYYD/
[08:54] <cloudbud> what I am missing https://pastebin.com/vArqQhwG
[08:54] <cloudbud> getting error error: /etc/logrotate.d/app.conf:15 missing '{' after log files definition
[08:54] <dxtr> Okay, so, the isntaller isn't finding my disk even though I can partition it through fdisk. ALTHOUGH the installer finds a disk that it thinks is around 30T large
[08:54] <cloudbud> got it
[08:54] <Allie`> TetsuEn: https://askubuntu.com/a/291584
[08:54] <Allie`> that'll fix your lock issue
[08:55] <dxtr> Is there an alternate route for installation so I can just dump everything on my disk?
[08:55] <zetheroo> guiverc_t: right, the Ubuntu Software tool is the default go-to tool for installing software, and when you search for LibreOffice the very first hit is this Snap, but there is no way to see that it is a Snap unless you look at the bottom of the description where it says 'Source   Snap Store' - and for the average user that's not going to mean anything. Add to that this this Snap is broken, and it's going to be one of the first things ins
[08:55] <zetheroo> talled by Ubuntu users. Boggles the mind ... seriously.
[08:55] <dxtr> This is 18.04, by the way
[08:56] <guiverc_t> zetheroo, yeah I believe i've heard it mentioned on the ubuntu podcast (uk)
[08:57] <zetheroo> time to file a bug report :D
[08:57] <Allie`> TetsuEn: and `locale-gen en_US.UTF-8 && dpkg-reconfigure locales`_should_ clear up your locale wonk
[08:58] <TetsuEn> Hope so. dpkg --configure -a ended with "too many errors"
[08:58] <TetsuEn> :/
[08:59] <Allie`> TetsuEn: try an `apt-get autoclean` before `dpkg --configure -a`
[09:01] <TetsuEn> Allie`: still ended with too many errors
[09:01] <Allie`> okay, that's weird
[09:02] <TetsuEn> yeah, almost everything it tried ended with an error
[09:02] <TetsuEn> and then it just noped on out of the process
[09:02] <Allie`> i may have to defer this to someone who's more adept with broken operating systems than me
[09:03] <TetsuEn> I'm going to run the upgrade one more time and keep my fingers crossed. If it's not fixed I need to pack up and head home and will probably just burn a boot disk and do it the old fashioned way
[09:04] <Allie`> heh, yeah, that's what I'd do ;)
[09:04] <Allie`> sorry i couldn't be of more help!
[09:04] <TetsuEn> You did your best. Thanks a ton!
[09:06] <mohhamad> hi
[09:07] <mohhamad> any body?
[09:07] <mohhamad> i need help
[09:07] <Allie`> hi mohhamad, what's the issue you're facing
[09:07] <mohhamad> whit my loptop graphic
[09:08] <mohhamad> after installing compiz
[09:08] <mohhamad> in compiz is good but in gnome-shell not good
[09:08] <mohhamad> in gnome-shell is lagy
[09:31] <fofalee> hello
[09:31] <fofalee> does ubuntu run on blobs in the OS, and the kernel...
[09:32] <fofalee> if so which ones are the blobs, - because I used to think ubuntu is full open source, because the drivers like noveau stand as the attestment for it, what other drivers are blobs, and not GNU compatible.
[09:33] <blackflow> fofalee: I think you're looking for Triskel and perhaps even Purism hardware. Ubuntu is not (fully) Libre, no.
[09:33] <guiverc> fofalee, this may help https://askubuntu.com/questions/533661/is-ubuntu-an-open-source-software
[09:34] <blackflow> also note that "GNU compatible" makes a difference between "open source" and "libre" (free) software.
[09:34] <guiverc> fofalee, myself I like debian terminology (free, nonfree), since a ton of Ubuntu is from debian (upstream) you know that is free...  but ubuntu doesn't hide its non-free
[09:39] <guiverc> fofalee, https://www.ubuntu.com/licensing
[09:41] <microwaved_> hi all
[09:49] <Anticom> Hey guys. Still on 16.04. I've got a win10 machine with a network share in my network and i'm trying to get access to it
[09:49] <Anticom> Is there a somewhat complete guide on how to configure samba client to work? for example in some articles I've read about creating mount points, in others i didn't.
[09:51] <blackflow> Anticom: did you try the most simple of them, typing smb://<server-address-here> in the Location bar of Nautilus?
[09:51] <blackflow> (the file manager)
[09:51] <Anticom> blackflow: of course
[09:52] <blackflow> doesn't work?
[09:52] <Anticom> And smb://ip/share and smb://hostname/share and so on and so on
[09:52] <Anticom> i tried every possible combination
[09:52] <denis__> q all
[09:53] <blackflow> Anticom: I used smb very little, but that always worked for me. Are you sure the Windows side is properly configured?
[09:53] <Anticom> blackflow: i'm at office currently and there are like 20 windows machines and 10 macs having access to that very share
[09:54] <Anticom> so unless there's special config for linux needed i think it's properly set up
[09:55] <blackflow> Anticom: sorry, "just works via file manager" is where my experience with Samba ends.
[09:56] <Anticom> blackflow: well there are currently 1674 ppl in this channel... i suppose one of them will be able to help me out so don't worry ;)
[09:56] <blackflow> Anticom: maybe these few command line tips might help:  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/samba#Discovering_network_shares
[09:57] <Allie`> Anticom: I echo blackflow, that *should* just work. what's the error its' giving you
[09:57] <blackflow> Anticom: most are bots :)
[09:59] <Allie`> beep boop am bot
[09:59] <webmind> 8
[10:01] <guiverc> Anticom, the command must match the 'server' defaults, sec=ntlm,charset=utf8,vers=1.0 etc or whatever version matches the windoze setup used  (dir_mod=...file_mode=...)  ya sure you tried em all?
[10:02] <Anticom> guiverc: don't quite get what you mean with that
[10:02] <Anticom> Like where do i have to put that? is it part of the URI?
[10:02] <guiverc> (I found i had to add some of those on 16.04.. to mount nas shares that predate 14.04 so my server (nas) wasn't changed)  -o (options on `mount` command)
[10:03] <Anticom> do i need to create a mount point now or not? Was asking for a somewhat complete guide originally
[10:05] <guiverc> Anticom, do you have a mount point you can use??  I create my own as I want it to use a specific place (that I'll remember & always be the same).. but the choice is yours?
[10:05] <Anticom> no i haven't
[10:05] <Anticom> i never before tried setting up smb client
[10:05] <Anticom> this is all new to me
[10:06] <Kartagis> hi
[10:06] <Anticom> ho
[10:06] <Allie`> Anticom: anyway, this is the canonical(!) guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:06] <Kartagis> I just spun a droplet on digitalocean. I want to install php-fpm but no luck
[10:06] <Allie`> (canonical as in accurate, not as in endorsed by canonical)
[10:07] <guiverc> your mount command needs a directory to 'mount' to; use `sudo mkdir /somewhere` and use that... (or a more appropriate place; but I'd suggest not in the $USER or /home/* folder to avoid issues...)
[10:07] <Kartagis> oh, is it php-cgi?
[10:08] <Anticom> guiverc: is it safe to mount cifs permanently? I just want to make sure this isn't causing any trouble when i'm not in this network
[10:09] <guiverc> Anticom, i used to long ago, now only use cifs/samba for backups; so script mounts them (but I used to mount via /etc/fstab (file system table) on boot)
[10:14] <Ubuntivity> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04, I used to have 4 power choices in cpufreq on Ubuntu 12.04, now I have only two. I think the cause is a change in power management software. The question is: how do I use the old power management on 16.04?
[10:15] <EriC^^> Ubuntivity: the hibernation and suspend are gone?
[10:15] <guiverc> Anticom my command used in script is `mount //<IP_ADDRESS>/NAS /mountpt -o username=blah,password=blah,sec=ntlm,charset=utf8,vers=1.0,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777`  with vers=1.0 not needed before 17.10, and I can't recall if 16.04 needed or was just better for my use-case with dir_mode=..,file_mode..  (12.04 & 14.04 didn't need sec=ntlm either looking now - play until it works for you..)
[10:15] <EriC^^> oh nevermind
[10:17] <Anticom> guiverc: okay cheers
[10:17] <Anticom> currently i'm getting no dialect specified on mount
[10:17] <Ubuntivity> EriC^^: I could re-activate the hibernation, but it is buggy and works about 50% of times
[10:17] <Anticom> i suppose that's what vers= is refering to guiverc
[10:18] <Ubuntivity> EriC^^: The main thing I need this for is the previous "PowerSave" option. The current PowerSave works like the previous "OnDemand"
[10:18] <guiverc> Anticom, i think it relates to the directory you need to provide (/mountpt in my example) which it 'mounts' to... ie. run `sudo mkdir /mountpt` before you attempt mount command
[10:19] <guiverc> Anticom, i didn't need to add vers= before 17.10; but I don't have w10 machines & know it was needed because of changes related to w10.malware ....
[10:21] <guiverc> Anticom, (fyi: wannacry was the reason vers=1.0 became required...)
[10:21] <Anticom> this is nuts
[10:27] <sjw> hi guys - i'm having some trouble with dd utility - I'm trying to dd to an sd card mounted at /dev/sdd with numerous partitions, and a lot of the time, the dd command is just producing a file in /dev called, for example, sdd13, instead of writing to the partition. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong and I've never seen this issue before
[10:28] <EriC^^> sjw: what's the command you're running?
[10:29] <sjw> EriC^^: dd if=image.bin of=/dev/sdd13 bs=1024 count=1536000
[10:29] <sjw> EriC^^: as root
[10:29] <sjw> via sudo
[10:30] <EriC^^> sjw: can you pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd' ?
[10:31] <dfch> 20
[10:31] <dfch> wrong channel, sorry
[10:32] <sjw> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/5BJF8aw9
[10:33] <blackflow> sjw: for starters, how big is image.bin? when "if" is a file, you don't need "count". and by the above command it seems you're sending 1.5GB to a 256MB partition.
[10:33] <EriC^^> sjw: what blackflow said
[10:34] <ubuntu> hy
[10:35] <Guest57922> how are you
[10:35] <blackflow> sjw: second, is anything actuall "mounted"? you used that word, but that's not what it means. please pastebin   `mount | grep /sdd`
[10:36] <sjw> image.bin is 15MB, it's not an ubuntu image. Is this the channel for discussing help with using ubuntu, or installing it? And no, sorry, it's not mounted
[10:39] <blackflow> sjw: well, bs=1024 (1 kB).   count = 1.536.000 of bs (1kB) blocks.
[10:40] <blackflow> sjw: so now the part I don't understand is what do you mean by "producing a file in /dev called sdd13"? Well yeah, when you instert a stick with all those partitions, those would appear as devices under /dev.
[10:40] <blackflow> *insert
[10:40] <sjw> blackflow: I mean when i insert the disk, the partitions show up as block devices#
[10:41] <blackflow> which is kinda expected, no?
[10:41] <sjw> And after the dd, they are in /dev/ as files
[10:41] <sjw> they remain when I remove the disk
[10:41] <blackflow> sjw: can you paste `file /dev/sdd13`
[10:42] <blackflow> (it's one line, can paste it here)
[10:45] <sjw> blackflow: /dev/sdd13: data
[10:45] <blackflow> sjw: and other sdd* are "block special"?
[10:45] <blackflow> (the ones you didn't dd to)
[10:46] <sjw> They are indeed
[10:46] <EriC^^> sjw: maybe you ran the command inverted earlier and now the files there and the block device is failing to get created?
[10:46] <sjw> I've checked and made sure to remove the files
[10:46] <blackflow> what EriC^^ said :)
[10:47] <blackflow> sjw: can you also please pastebin  `dmesg | grep sdd`
[10:48] <sjw> https://pastebin.com/mCw7N3be
[10:48] <sjw> EriC^^: blackflow
[10:50] <blackflow> sjw: okay so the only thing that comes to mind is what EriC^^ said, that you dd'd somehow befor the kernel created those devices and thus created a file under /dev. I can't think of a valid situation, unless some serious bug in the kernel, where an existing /dev/ device can be exchanged for a local file like that.
[10:51] <blackflow> so yeah, eject the card, rm any /dev/sdd* that's not block special, and try again.
[10:51] <blackflow> also try cp instead of dd.    cp image.bin /dev/sdd13
[10:52] <sjw> Ok ,the same thing has happened
[10:52] <blackflow> sjw: actually, try this (aftre you clean up and re-insert the card)      [ -b /dev/sdd13 ] && cp image.bin /dev/sdd13
[10:53] <blackflow> sjw: are you sure the sdd* are appearing when you insert the card?
[10:53] <sjw> blackflow: yes I am
[10:54] <sjw> Just trying your second suggestion
[10:56] <sjw> ok blackflow, your second suggestion seems to work. The dd commands that are not working are part of a script, run as root. Sometimes I see this problem outside the script, but not as often. Let me keep having a look and come back
[10:57] <blackflow> sjw: technically, both dd and cp (to a block device) should have the same effect. the [] test is "proceed only if this is a block device". So, check if it actually copied. Or can debug like this   [ -b /dev/sdd13 ] && echo "Ok, copying" && cp ....
[10:58] <sjw> blackflow: it took some time and worked that time
[10:58] <blackflow> and now that you mention a "script". I'm curious to what else does the script do... it's not just dd-ing?
[10:59] <blackflow> sjw: and of course verify after copying that sdd13 is still a block special with `file /dev/sdd13`
[11:00] <Kartagis> why can't I install php-fpm?
[11:00] <blackflow> Kartagis: what error do you get?
[11:01] <Kartagis> blackflow: no php-fpm in apt-cache search output
[11:01] <blackflow> Kartagis: which ubuntu, what's your apt sources list like
[11:01] <Kartagis> when I do apt-cache search fpm, php-cgi comes up
[11:03] <Kartagis> ubuntu 18.04 and https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rkZ4tzwVG5/ blackflow
[11:03] <blackflow> Kartagis: php-fpm is in universe, so you'll have to enable it
[11:05] <Kartagis> all universe lines are uncommented
[11:06] <blackflow> indeed they are, it's a bit hard to read.... of course you ran `apt update`  (or apt-get)   first?
[11:08] <xuhui> sudo apt-get install php-fpm
[11:27] <MacroMan> Using gdb to try and find out what went wrong from a SIGABRT, but I need some guidance: https://paste.ngx.cc/fc3eb3e36a42c528
[11:27] <MacroMan> It's generated by php-fpm7.0 (##php no one can help me there)
[11:28] <wxy_> nick /xyh]
[11:28] <wxy_> nick /xyh
[11:29] <wxy_> hello
[11:30] <MacroMan> I can see the error is with Imagick, but using the suggested debug code (from php help) to get more info give me an error: https://paste.ngx.cc/05e0504a7c74b8da
[11:32] <foulMETHODS> if i run a checksum on an archive and it reports as failed what does that tell?
[11:32] <trupheenix> Can anyone here tell me how to setup postfix with user password authentication?
[11:32] <trupheenix> I want to do this without using any additional database server.
[11:34] <blackflow> foulMETHODS: run checksum how?
[11:34] <leftyfb> trupheenix: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html.en
[11:35] <blackflow> trupheenix: in addition to leftyfb's link, you need to set up SASL then the SASL daemon must be configured for whatever auth policy you want.
[11:35] <foulMETHODS> i ran md5sum on a bunch of software sources i downloaded and a couple say failed?
[11:36] <blackflow> foulMETHODS:  so you used -c for md5sum, with a file of checksums?
[11:36] <foulMETHODS> yes
[11:37] <trupheenix> leftyfb, blackflow thing is I have it setup right now with TLS. I am able to send email to my GApps server but it lands up in spam because host username field is blank. I wanted to know what needs to be done to prevent this. At the moment there is no user authentication when I am sending locally.
[11:37] <blackflow> foulMETHODS: do those that failed exist? often checksum files list a bunch of different ones, so eg. you download only one, and don't have the others, it'll show error for them because they're not there.
[11:38] <leftyfb> trupheenix: you should try #ubuntu-server. Setting up a public email server should not be taken lightly.
[11:38] <trupheenix> leftyfb, thanks
[11:38] <blackflow> foulMETHODS: for example this:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/SHA256SUMS   it lists both the desktop and live server ISOs. and if you downloaded, say, just the desktop one, then of course, using -c with this file will show failure on the live-server, being that it's not present.
[11:55] <pete4242> Hi. I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 18.04 and think there's a problem with OpenGL now. Whenever I want to start something that needs hardware accelerated graphics I get some GLX error. Can someone help me with that?
[11:56] <pete4242> I suspect there's a package missing, because in the upgrade process some needed to be removed.
[11:58] <blackflow> pete4242: what GLX error
[11:59] <pete4242> something like this https://pastebin.com/raw/Hx3cyK4p
[12:01] <blackflow> pete4242: which GPU, nvidia?
[12:01] <pete4242> yes
[12:01] <pete4242> with CUDA I believe
[12:01] <blackflow> pete4242: the nvidia driver package changed name in Bionic. For starters you could purge and reinstall the proper driver, nvidia-driver-390
[12:02] <blackflow> it should've been handled by the upgrade via transitional packages, but just incase, I'd reinstall
[12:02] <blackflow> (so purge whatevre nvidia package is there, and properly install nvidia-driver-390, is what I mean)
[12:05] <pete4242> Okay. Installing the nvidia-driver-390 package apparently removes some nvidia packages automatically
[12:06] <pete4242> Btw, is there a news channel or something where I could have gotten that info before upgrading?
[12:07] <pete4242> Thanks a lot, it works fine now!
[12:07] <blackflow> no idea. I found it "the hard way" too :)   not mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes
[12:08] <blackflow> might be good to file a bug report on this, before the next wave of LTS upgrades to 18.04.1
[12:33] <hollusion> having problems with the keymap in remmina; connected to a server via xrdp; öäü work fine in here (xchat) but arrow keys dont, down arrow = enter, and in other apps, like discord, the öäü keys dont work (german keymap)
[12:34] <Compu> i just use chrome remote desktop
[12:35] <Compu> hollusion:
[12:35] <hollusion> do i have to set that up on thge server side?
[12:35] <hollusion> or is it just a client connecting to xrdp?
[12:39] <Compu> hollusion: no, u set up chrome remote desktop on the server computer and the client computer, it links r ur google account, u then click enable remote connections on the server side and then u can access the server from anywhere u can access google chrome, theres also a chrome remote desktop client app for android
[12:39] <hollusion> i see
[12:40] <hollusion> thank you for the suggestion but id rather use a non google solution
[12:40] <hollusion> for this case
[12:40] <hollusion> "At the console (no xrdp connection but locally on the system), type the following command to dump the keyboard layout" is there a way to do this via a remote rdp connection?
[12:41] <sdfgsd> hi, can you switch between VGA and HDMI from keyboard
[12:42] <sdfgsd> can you switch between VGA and HDMI from keyboard ? or is this possible only from monitor button
[12:43] <hollusion> monitor only i believe
[12:55] <foulMETHODS> turns out the archives which failed the checksum were corrupted
[13:11] <hollusion> erdem@server:/etc/xrdp$ setxkbmap -layout km-0407.ini --- response:Error loading new keyboard description
[13:11] <hollusion> why? :(
[13:26] <tzanolo> good morning to everyone. Can someone help me how to solve a lib dependencie... its installed on system, but binarie cant find it.
[13:27] <tzanolo> the software is cisco packet tracer 6
[13:27] <tzanolo> here is the error:
[13:27] <tzanolo> tzanolo@lisa:/opt/pt/bin$ ./PacketTracer6
[13:27] <tzanolo> ./PacketTracer6: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: Error 40
[13:28] <tzanolo> but this librarie exsists in my system:
[13:28] <tzanolo> tzanolo@lisa:/opt/pt/bin$ locate libcrypto
[13:28] <tzanolo> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0
[13:28] <tzanolo> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.1
[13:30] <guiverc> tzanolo, please don't spam the channel; if you have multiple lines please pastebin them. please try & avoid using as many lines (it's harder to read/find)
[13:32] <leftyfb> tzanolo: you'll have to contact Cisco for support with their software.
[13:38] <ezfox> how can i force NM to use the DNS from my VPN ? lots of articles in the web about this but not one of the proposed solutions has any effect.
[13:38] <ezfox> openvpn btw.
[13:50] <hollusion> i managed to fix the keymap in xrdp
[13:50] <hollusion> but within the remote connection the special keys still wont work in the discord app
[13:50] <hollusion> very strange behavior
[13:53] <asanso> bbbbvbvbvhhhvbbxnmbdhb
[13:53] <asanso> n nxj jbjbb cn bnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejkfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[13:53] <asanso> fhjfjnjbnjndjbjbdjbj dmxbjekskbnsjdzbjdibzks
[13:58] <Jerry> Good morning world
[13:59] <adas0496> Good evening
[13:59] <compdoc> its 8am, where are your children?!
[13:59] <Jerry> what's going on
[14:00] <Jerry> have none
[14:00] <blehmeh98> It's morning where I am, but I can see some users here are in the EU
[14:00] <compdoc> thats sort of soemthing they used to say on TV at night
[14:01] <blehmeh98> yeah
[14:01] <Jerry> yep
[14:01] <blehmeh98> "It's 10PM, do you know where your children are?"
[14:02] <Jerry> have no kids
[14:03] <Jerry> all is well in ubuntu
[14:03] <blehmeh98> yeah. All is well in linux in general
[14:04] <Jerry> yep
[14:04] <baako> hi guys i have just install ubuntu on my pc and i am having a major issue whereby I am unable to click some area unless i close all open applications and the only it seems to let me close it is if i using alt + F4. what do i do please
[14:04] <compdoc> mine does that sometimes, but mine is ubuntu mate
[14:05] <blehmeh98> Is your problem that you can click on the desktop but not inside windowed areas?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:06] <blehmeh98> Also, which version of Ubuntu are you using, baako?
[14:06] <baako> blehmeh98: are you speaking to me?
[14:06] <blehmeh98> yeah
[14:06] <Jerry> howdy
[14:06] <compdoc> well, sometimes I cant click on windows that are in front of the window thats locking them all
[14:07] <baako> blehmeh98: i was about to find out using terminal but i cant even click on it
[14:07] <compdoc> I have to close that window to release the others
[14:07] <baako> or click on show application
[14:07] <blehmeh98> oh crap
[14:07] <baako> i have to close firefox which is what i am using to run this chat before it let me open anything else
[14:08] <blehmeh98> I googled your problem and the last posts about this are for fairly old versions of Ubuntu.
[14:08] <compdoc> mines 16.04
[14:08] <blehmeh98> Plus, recently, Ubuntu moved to Gnome 3 as the desktop environment instead of Unity
[14:08] <baako> this is unbutu 18
[14:08] <Zamakazi> Hello here !
[14:08] <baako> dont know what 18 it is
[14:09] <blehmeh98> That means that two people have the "can't click on certain parts" problem on two different Ubuntu versions with two different desktop environments
[14:10] <Allie`> baako: you're not using compiz are you?
[14:10] <baako> maybe it doesnt like wireless keyboard and mouse from logitech
[14:10] <baako> Allie`: nope i just install ubuntu via usb
[14:11] <baako> i have disconnect the wireless keyboard and mouse and its working okay but i want to use my wireless keyboard and mouse
[14:12] <blehmeh98> baako: so it works and allows you to click everything when you don't use the wireless keyboard and mouse?
[14:12] <baako> blehmeh98: yes
[14:14] <blehmeh98> baako: do you have any different wireless keyboards and mice?
[14:14] <baako> i have logitech wireless keyboard and mouse which is all connected using a single usb dongle
[14:14] <baako> blehmeh98: wireless?
[14:16] <blehmeh98> baako: I hate to ask, but is there any particular reason you need a wireless setup?
[14:17] <baako> blehmeh98: dont like wire ply smy wireless keyboard is very quiet when typing
[14:17] <blehmeh98> ok
[14:18] <blehmeh98> baako: have you tried searching and installing linux drivers for your keyboard and mouse? Usually they're built in and work perfectly, but this isn't the case now.
[14:18] <baako> blehmeh98: I am using a logitech k800 keyboard and performance mx mouse
[14:19] <ezfox> hollusion, i had same issue with tightvncserver and qt-apps. in the end i used tigervnc instead
[14:22] <hollusion> ezfox, hmmm thats a bummer
[14:22] <hollusion> thank you for letting me know
[14:22] <blehmeh98> baako: does this keyboard work on any other computer?
[14:25] <kemisten> anyone know a webbased torrent downloader for ubuntu server?
[14:29] <blehmeh98> baako: people have said that for them, the unifying receiver along with your keyboard and mouse work out of the box.
[14:29] <blehmeh98> baako: There's a program people usually install to get it working even better with all sorts of features and stuff. It might fix your problem.
[14:30] <blehmeh98> baako: You can read more about it here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/113984/is-logitechs-unifying-receiver-supported?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[14:38] <baako> blehmeh98: thanks will check it out
[14:39] <blehmeh98> baako: alright, I have to go.Good luck Baako. If IRC support doesn't work out, try asking on the ubuntu forums or on reddit.
[14:39] <onio> what is the best IRC client for Ubuntu?
[14:40] <leftyfb> onio: the one that fits your personal needs the best
[14:40] <leftyfb> onio: try #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support questions
[14:41] <onio> leftyfb: Thanks for that
[14:51] <kemisten> anyone know a webbased torrent downloader for ubuntu server?
[15:06] <sruli> how do i restart network service in 18.04 server? netplan apply does not restart it, i need to reboot for effect
[15:09] <leftyfb> sruli: sudo systemctl restart networking.service
[15:10] <sruli> leftyfb: not found
[15:10] <leftyfb> sruli: what's not found?
[15:11] <sruli> networking.service
[15:12] <ioria> sruli, first check  the renderer ... if NM , just restart NM,if networkd, try    systemctl restart systemd-networkd.service
[15:13] <leftyfb> sruli: networking.service most certainly should exist
[15:13] <elmcrest> hey everybody. I've just installed 18.04 desktop and I try to add my user to the group `docker` ... but for some reason `sudo usermod -aG docker $USER` isn't working, already logged out and in again. any Ideas?
[15:13] <sruli> leftyfb: now it did work, i tried before and it didnt
[15:13] <leftyfb> sruli: then there was a typo
[15:14] <sruli> leftyfb: i notice that on 18.04 tabbing for auto completion takes very long.. had to type it in as tab did not auto complete.. maybe there was a typo
[15:16] <leftyfb> sruli: you shouldn't automatically assume if autocomplete doesn't complete what you're looking for, that it doesn't exist. There might be other reasons at play.
[15:16] <DigbyMW> apparmor has an error whenever my system starts up. 'systemctl status apparmor.service' tells me that /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.surf can't open 'abstractions/gstreamer'. is this some library i need to install? i'm running ubuntu server btw
[15:17] <DigbyMW> the line in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.surf that takes issue is trying to include abstractions/gstreamer so thats why i'm guessing its some missing library
[15:19] <StrugglingProgra> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu 18.04. The first thing I tried to do was install cuda, which appears to have broken my apt. I am unable to install anything or remove anything with apt now. Is there a way to refresh my apt without reinstalling the entire OS?
[15:19] <StrugglingProgra> I have posted to AskUbuntu as well (with more details there)
[15:20] <msq> Hello there
[15:21] <StrugglingProgra> Here's the post: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1044817/how-to-resolve-unmet-dependencies-error
[15:21] <StrugglingProgra> Not a great first experience with Ubuntu :/
[15:22] <elmcrest> ok wow, I needed to reboot to update my groups ... weird
[15:24] <sruli> leftyfb: i cant get my nic bond to work, any ideas? config paste.ubuntu.com/p/jsdrhhMcjc/
[15:24] <leftyfb> sruli: sorry, I'm not yet familiar with netplan
[15:24] <sruli> leftyfb: thanks
[15:24] <sruli> i cant get my nic bond to work, any ideas? config paste.ubuntu.com/p/jsdrhhMcjc/
[15:33] <anton__> Hi
[15:33] <anton__> I like Ubuntu
[15:33] <anton__> It ist nice
[15:33] <compdoc> ty
[15:33] <compdoc> I worked hard on it
[15:35] <StrugglingProgra> compdoc, do you have any suggestions for doing a fresh restart of apt?
[15:35] <StrugglingProgra> context: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1044817/how-to-resolve-unmet-dependencies-error
[15:35] <piotr> good job!
[15:36] <sruli> compdoc: thanks
[15:36] <compdoc> np
[15:36] <sruli> ;-)
[15:36] <compdoc> StrugglingProgra, thee are apt commands to clean out apt, but I dont know them offhand
[15:37] <StrugglingProgra> remove and purge do not work currently
[15:37] <StrugglingProgra> It baffles me that installing a package can completely break the package manager....
[15:37] <leftyfb> StrugglingProgra: please use pastebin to paste the commands you're trying and their output/errors
[15:38] <StrugglingProgra> OK, give me a moment
[15:40] <wklm> hi :)
[15:44] <StrugglingProgra> leftyfb && compdoc : https://www.pastery.net/about+xtvsvs/#xtvsvs
[15:45] <compdoc> did you run 'apt --fix-broken install'
[15:45] <compdoc> just that
[15:45] <leftyfb> StrugglingProgra: what version of ubuntu?
[15:46] <StrugglingProgra> That got cut off the paste. I will update with that output
[15:46] <StrugglingProgra> 18.04 - I will include system info in next paste
[15:47] <StrugglingProgra> oh wait, that output is already there on line 17:
[15:47] <StrugglingProgra> https://www.pastery.net/about+xtvsvs/#l-17-xtvsvs
[15:47] <leftyfb> StrugglingProgra: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[15:47] <sruli> anyone know nic bonding in netplan? cant get it to work in 18.04
[15:47] <StrugglingProgra> leftyfb: I still get the same error:
[15:47] <StrugglingProgra> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[15:47] <leftyfb> !patience | sruli
[15:48] <leftyfb> StrugglingProgra: please pastebin ONLY the command and output of the command I just gave you
[15:48] <StrugglingProgra> You got it!
[15:48] <tomreyn> sruli: i assume you already looked at https://netplan.io/examples#bonding ?
[15:49] <StrugglingProgra> leftyfb: https://www.pastery.net/about+xtvsvs+xpfsyv/#xpfsyv
[15:49] <leftyfb> StrugglingProgra: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* cuda-drivers libcuda1-396
[15:50] <sruli> tomreyn: yes, i am not sure if i missed a step elsewhere, i installed ifenslave and bridge-utils, made the config file as per example i am not getting an ip from dhcp4
[15:50] <StrugglingProgra> leftyfb: https://www.pastery.net/about+xtvsvs+xpfsyv+wnxntc/#wnxntc
[15:50] <compdoc> sruli, i havent tried bonding, but I found that defining nics in netplan wasnt hard, but creating bridges for KVM in netplan doesnt work. Its best to define the nics in netplan, but to define the bridges in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:50] <compdoc> maybe bonding works better there too
[15:50] <leftyfb> StrugglingProgra: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* cuda-drivers libcuda1-396 cuda-runtime-9-2
[15:51] <leftyfb> StrugglingProgra: see a pattern? :)
[15:51] <StrugglingProgra> Can I just give you ssh access to my machine? :)
[15:51] <leftyfb> StrugglingProgra: never ask for that on IRC
[15:51] <StrugglingProgra> Yes, let me see if I can follow this loose thread further
[15:51] <StrugglingProgra> (I was totally joking)
[15:51] <compdoc> lol
[15:52] <sruli> compdoc: i havent defined bridges yet, but good to know that i will need to create it in interfaces for kvm
[15:52] <leftyfb> StrugglingProgra: be careful. If you question whether a package you want to add to the list isn't associated with the video drivers, ask here
[15:55] <compdoc> sruli, by 'kvm' I mean virt-manager wont see bridges defined in netplan
[15:55] <StrugglingProgra> leftyfb: resolved! Thanks ! https://askubuntu.com/questions/1044817/failed-installation-of-package-breaks-apt-get
[15:56] <sruli> compdoc: i got that, so i will need to create the bridge in interfaces, while the rest of the config is in netplan?
[15:56] <StrugglingProgra> leftyfb: Feel free to post the solution there if you'd like to receive payment for your services in internet points (I can't accept my own answer for 2 days)
[15:58] <compdoc> that works for mine
[15:59] <sruli> compdoc: ^ referring to netplan+interfaces question?
[16:00] <spinningCat> t/join #service.d
[16:01] <spinningCat> hey
[16:01] <spinningCat> wahat is wrong with that cıde root@ns1AEEB6244A8EA:~/SMSUtility/SMSUtility# systemctl daemon reload
[16:01] <spinningCat> Unknown operation daemon.
[16:02] <tomreyn> spinningCat: wrong order. reload daemon
[16:03] <spinningCat> oh
[16:03] <spinningCat> fucking tutorial https://www.ubuntudoc.com/how-to-create-new-service-with-systemd/
[16:03] <spinningCat> man this is ubuntu doc :/
[16:03] <tomreyn> use the man page ;)
[16:03] <tomreyn> this is not official documentation
[16:04] <spinningCat> :D
[16:04] <spinningCat> systemctl reload daemon
[16:04] <spinningCat> Failed to reload daemon.service: Unit daemon.service not found.
 this is not official documentation
[16:05] <leftyfb> spinningCat: if you read the documentation on systemctl, you'll find your answer.
[16:05] <tomreyn> spinningCat: it's not the wrong order, just wrong spelling in this case.
[16:06] <spinningCat> daemon
[16:07] <spinningCat> systemctl daemon-reload
[16:14] <sruli> compdoc: i want to try using interfaces for my bond to se if netplan is the issue, what do i need to put in netplan to tell it to use interfaces?
[16:16] <compdoc> there's usually lots of examples for netplan if you search
[16:17] <sruli> compdoc: i tried more than 20 of the examples, cant get it to work, need to see for sure if netplan is the issue so want to try it in interfaces instead
[16:17] <compdoc> same difference. I dont use bonding
[16:18] <sruli> compdoc: my question is how to not use netplan... if i set up in interfaces do i need to do something in netplan config to tell it to use interfaces?
[16:19] <compdoc> yes, I got it. still need to search it, or maybe ask in ##netowrking
[16:19] <sruli> thanks
[16:19] <compdoc> just spell it better
[16:20] <sruli> ^ ;-)
[16:21] <sonicwind> I don't know the answer, but I know netplans website is pretty good with many examples. Have you looked there?
[16:21] <merpnderp> What's the drawbacks to using the ubuntu repo to install MySql versus using the MySql apt repo?
[16:21] <blackflow> sruli: remove all config from /etc/netplan/*   and it won't be used.
[16:21] <nacc> merpnderp: it depends on who you want to support you
[16:21] <sruli> blackflow: thanks
[16:22] <merpnderp> nacc: that's really all it comes down to? Do I want Ubuntu to be in charge, or MySql? So if I wanted to work with MySQL 8, it's an easy choice?
[16:22] <blackflow> sruli: I don' thave the backlog, is this a server or desktop?
[16:22] <yaldak> merpnderp: No, it depends on features you need too
[16:22] <yaldak> Support is an important part of it but you also need to consider features. If you're doing advanced / GTID replication then you will want mysql 5.7 for example
[16:23] <sruli> blackflow: server
[16:23] <merpnderp> yaldak: 8 doesn't support GTID replication?
[16:23] <yaldak> merpnderp: it probably does, i was just using an example
[16:24] <yaldak> you need to consider what version of mysql is shipped with the distro
[16:24] <tomreyn> also upgrade / patching strategy needs to be considered. many upstream repositories provide rolling upgrades. which may not be what you had in mind when you installed some lower package version from this repo years ago.
[16:24] <yaldak> and that leads into who supports you
[16:24] <merpnderp> yaldak: I'm really just wanting to familiarize myself with mysql 8 on a personal project.
[16:24] <tomreyn> and some dont provide security support at all.
[16:24] <sruli> blackflow: i cant get bonding to work, my config is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jsdrhhMcjc/
[16:24] <merpnderp> yaldak: but was curious about the possible drawbacks.
[16:24] <nacc> merpnderp: I mean, you asked about repos, not versions.
[16:25] <merpnderp> nacc: right, the ubuntu repo has 5.7, the mysql repo has 8.
[16:25] <nacc> merpnderp: which is not a 'drawback' of using one repo over the other, IMO.
[16:25] <merpnderp> I assumed the ubuntu repo would be better managed, I just didn't know how.
[16:25] <nacc> sruli: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:26] <compdoc> the unbuntu repos are solid, tested and made for this os.
[16:26] <nacc> sruli: or in #netplan?
[16:26] <blackflow> sruli: if that's server, then make sure, aftre you disable netplan, that you have a valid networkd configuration, and that systemd-networkd is enabled (it's not by default, netplan starts it run-time)
[16:26] <nacc> merpnderp: if you want mysql 8, then that's what you want
[16:26] <nacc> sruli: uh, you're bonding eno1 and eno1
[16:27] <nacc> sruli: that's nonsenes
[16:27] <jcdutton> merpnderp, Why do you want mysql, why not try Elastic Search or something like that?
[16:27] <compdoc> mariadb
[16:27] <compdoc> (sp)
[16:27] <sruli> nacc: typo, i have already changed that
[16:27] <merpnderp> jcdutton: mysql can scale up as large as I'll ever need.
[16:28] <nacc> sruli: there is no way for any of us to know that.
[16:28] <merpnderp> jcdutton: because I like working with SQL and stored procedures.
[16:28] <sruli> nacc: i didnt notice its in the paste, sorry ;-)
[16:29] <hid> hi
[16:29] <sun> hi
[16:29] <jcdutton> merpnderp, ok, With ES you would need to do all that sort of think with json
[16:29] <merpnderp> jcdutton: yeah, and mysql 8 has great support for json if I wanted to go that route.
[16:29] <hid> when I open a video with mpv --vid=no (from a script), I can't seek forwards/backwards with arrows
[16:30] <hid> so one did tell me my terminal should be able to do this
[16:30] <hid> one did tell me the problem comes from terminfo
[16:30] <hid> my arrow keys work perfectly in ncurse/CLI tools
[16:31] <someguyy> hi, i was wondering which is recommended for nvidia cards on 18.04 w/ gnome3/wayland, nouveu or nvidia drivers?
[16:31] <jcdutton> merpnderp, what is the application doing?
[16:33] <merpnderp> jcdutton: job running, web mining, nlp, blogging, wiki.
[16:33] <merpnderp> jcdutton: to scratch a bunch of my own itches and make a public portfolio since my current job doesn't let me publish anything I do.
[16:35] <nacc> merpnderp: and to be clear, mysql 8 is not supported here, as it's not an ubuntu package (it might be in the future)
[16:37] <merpnderp> nacc: cool, thanks
[16:39] <jcdutton> merpnderp, Would that be the MERN stack?
[16:44] <DeathTickle1> I'm trying out finch as an IRC client from the kernel console
[16:46] <DeathTickle1> anyone using finch regularly ? what are your impressions
[16:46] <hid> anyone?
[16:47] <nacc> DeathTickle1: not a topic for this channel, perhaps you want #ubuntu-offtopic or #linux
[17:03] <rf> is anyone talking about anything ?
[17:09] <ezfox> any pihole users here ? i have issues with blocking facebook.com. Its redirected to "edge-star-mini-shv-02-frt3.facebook.com", even if i block this URL sepcifically. nslookup facebook.com is resolving to 127.1 how it shoul be, but ping facebook.com gives: "64 bytes from edge-star-mini-shv-02-frt3.facebook.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1" and calling facebook.com in the browser opens the website. cant find the rootcause for this behaviour
[17:09] <ezfox> ?!
[17:10] <spinningCat> hey what am i doing here https://hastebin.com/oqifavisev.ini
[17:12] <nacc> spinningCat: why are you asking what you are doing? it's a file presumably you wrote
[17:13] <spinningCat> service doesnt work
[17:14] <spinningCat> this is what i got https://hastebin.com/huyohiyuye.pas
[17:14] <nacc> spinningCat: yes, and you provided the output in #ubuntu-server, you should show it with `systemctl status -l ...`
[17:14] <nacc> spinningCat: so it doesn't shorten the lines
[17:14] <spinningCat> sure sec
[17:16] <spinningCat> is that okey https://hastebin.com/situxovise.rb
[17:18] <nacc> spinningCat: it would appear /usr/bin/dotnet run --project /home/ceiba/SMSUtility/SMSUtility/ failed
[17:18] <spinningCat> but
[17:18] <spinningCat> it worked when i execute that on shall
[17:18] <spinningCat> i mean that command worked
[17:19] <nacc> spinningCat: did it work as the www-data user?
[17:19] <spinningCat> yes that command worked
[17:19] <nacc> spinningCat: how did you test it?
[17:19] <spinningCat> i am not sure about that
[17:19] <spinningCat> how can i check it with www-data
[17:20] <spinningCat> sudo is counted as user right
[17:20] <nacc> spinningCat: maybe something like `sudo -u www-data /usr/bin/dotnet run --project /home/ceiba/SMSUtility/SMSUtility` ?
[17:21] <nacc> spinningCat: i don't know what your last question means
[17:21] <spinningCat> it worked now
[17:22] <spinningCat> let me check
[17:24] <slizard> hi folks. I'm seeing some funny stuff in dmesg about apparmor denying the Telegram app do do "mknod". Not too familiar with the internals of snaps, but this is somewhat unexpected. Thoughts?
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> slizard: can you paste in a hastebin for us please?
[17:25] <nacc> slizard: this is specifically the telegram snap? you will want to ask in #snappy
[17:27] <IntelCore> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[17:27] <IntelCore> #
[17:27] <IntelCore> # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[17:27] <IntelCore> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
[17:27] <IntelCore> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[17:27] <IntelCore> #
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> IntelCore: use a hastebin mate, its not the first time you ask questions here
[17:28] <IntelCore> Failed to mount /mnt/wwn-0x5001480000000000.
[17:29] <mzl0> anyone have a recommendation for a simple Postgres/sql client?
[17:29] <mzl0> something in the vein of Postico for macOS.. i just need to be able to look through and filter tables quickly, not all the bells and whistles that clients like DBeaver have
[17:30] <nacc> mzl0: install postgresql-client ?
[17:30] <mzl0> nacc the commandline interface?
[17:30] <slizard> lotuspsychje: http://termbin.com/i7eb I've only seen it for Telegram, but I'll check
[17:30] <nacc> mzl0: right
[17:30] <mzl0> sigh yeah i guess
[17:30] <nacc> mzl0: do you want a GUI? I don't know what postico is
[17:30] <slizard> nacc: yes, I use the Telegram snap
[17:30] <mzl0> i've been trying to avoid that in favor of a gui
[17:31] <nacc> slizard: i would ask in #snappy if those are expected, or ask the telegram owner (snap info telegram)
[17:31] <mzl0> nacc https://eggerapps.at/postico/
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> slizard: i had good experiences with telegram-serguiens snap
[17:31] <nacc> mzl0: let me rephrase, "I don't care to know what postico is"
[17:32] <mzl0> lol ok i forgot a few of IRC folk are assholes sometimes
 I've been using the "telegram-desktop" app, what's the difference?
[17:33] <nacc> slizard: telegram-sergiusens is not official from upstream, iirc
 OK, otherwise no difference in theory?
[17:34] <nacc> slizard: i mean, no, they could be completely different
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> slizard: i didnt test others to be able to compare sorry
 hahha. Allright, I'll try later.
[17:36] <slizard> lotuspsychje: thanks for the tip anyway
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> slizard: you can search snaps in categorys from terminal now, have a look?
[17:40] <marcos> mujumm
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest74541: can we help you?
[17:40] <Guest74541> lel
[17:41] <Guest74541> yes
[17:41] <leftyfb> !es | Guest74541
[17:41] <leftyfb> !es | marcos_
[17:42] <usr123> Has anyone used unity-tweak-tool?
[17:42] <leftyfb> usr123: that isn't your question
[17:43] <usr123> leftyfb: I am trying to understand the source of it. I want to know what API to use if I want to minimise applications.
[17:43] <edu1704> Hi. Howto change to the intel driver from the modesetting one ? Ubuntu 17 here, intel HD 4600 graphics .
[17:44] <spartan29> is anybody home?
[17:44] <spartan29> i need some help
[17:45] <spartan29> i have a RT5372 wireless adapter. It can show clients attached to any BSSIDs in kernel version 3.13 but not on kernel version 4.4
[17:45] <merpnderp> jcdutton: lol, what's MERN?
[17:45] <spartan29> I tried to compile the source code of the corresponding drivers for kernel version 4.4 but the code doesnt compile and keeps repeating coding errors
[17:46] <spartan29> Any help would be greatly appreciated
[17:47] <AUTHackz> hello
[17:47] <spartan29> hey
[17:47] <IntelCore> paste.ubuntu.com/p/tVW5vYqkVc/
[17:47] <AUTHackz> whats up
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> !support | AUTHackz is up
[17:47] <spartan29> need some help man
[17:48] <IntelCore> systemctl daemon-reload
[17:48] <IntelCore>  (did this already)
[17:51] <leftyfb> IntelCore: do you have a support question?
[17:52] <kemisten> tjena
[17:52] <kemisten> anyone know a webbased torrent downloader for ubuntu server?
[17:53] <lucidguy> kemisten: transmission
[17:53] <kemisten> thx
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> kemisten: or deluge
[17:53] <kemisten> ive tried to install it
[17:54] <kemisten> but nothing happens when  i go to localhost:9091
[17:54] <lucidguy> transmission is bare bones, deluge is more advanced, nicer.
[17:54] <riksdaler> Hi
[17:54] <leftyfb> kemisten: did you read the documentation?
[17:54] <kemisten> yeah
[17:55] <kemisten> ive chage setting in the java config
[17:57] <IntelCore> ??
[17:58] <IntelCore> paste.ubuntu.com/p/wW8CHBz46M/
[18:00] <IntelCore> Leftyfb>> did you see paste?
[18:01] <leftyfb> IntelCore: what version of Ubuntu and how are you trying to mount your drive?
[18:03] <IntelCore> 16.04 is . I put 18.04 on usb stick, opened it to see, live. then quit it, and removed the stick. Also VLc is not sometimes seeing my disk.. auto mount dvd was on before
[18:04] <leftyfb> IntelCore: lets not talk about booting the 18.04 live usb since that has nothing to do with you trying to mount a windows drive on boot with a 16.04 installation
[18:04] <IntelCore> I am not trying to mount. It supposed to auto mount. or, was. now it fails
[18:05] <leftyfb> IntelCore: Ubuntu will not automatically mount a drive/partition outside of it's root filesystem unless you configure it to do so
[18:05] <leftyfb> IntelCore: how did you configure Ubuntu to mount the drive on boot?
[18:05] <IntelCore> leftyfb > yah, mounting usb, an other dev.. can do this on an upstart
 not sure what you mean about searching. "snap search telegram" gives plenty results. BTW, asked on the #snappy channel and seems to be a known issue -- snap was updated in the bg, a restart eliminated the apparmor warnings.
[18:05] <IntelCore> systemd, wreck the boot?
[18:06] <leftyfb> IntelCore: how did you configure Ubuntu to mount the drive on boot?
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> slizard: glad you found it, you can search snaps like this too: snap find --section=social-networking
[18:06] <IntelCore> leftyfb> conf to boot uses grub2, and common install had list in /etc/fstab
 thanks
[18:08] <leftyfb> IntelCore: ok, what is the fstab entry for the drive you're having difficulty mounting on boot?
[18:09] <edu1704>  /msg nickserv register toyota1981<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:09] <leftyfb> :/
[18:09] <IntelCore> leftyfb> I paste it up, hang 5sec.
[18:10] <IntelCore> paste.ubuntu.com/p/QvfCxCfktw/
[18:11] <IntelCore> leftyfb > it a gpt, uefi.
[18:11] <leftyfb> IntelCore: can you mount it manually?
[18:12] <IntelCore> leftyfb > nautilus will open :Windows in graphical user.
[18:12] <leftyfb> IntelCore: can you umount and then mount it manually using the commandline?
[18:12] <IntelCore> leftyfb, but before upstart was used, the mount was always there.
[18:13] <leftyfb> IntelCore: that doesn't help us troubleshoot
[18:13] <leftyfb> IntelCore: can you umount and then mount it manually using the commandline?
[18:13] <IntelCore> ? C:drive?
[18:13] <leftyfb> IntelCore: Only Windows uses "C" as a storage identifier
[18:14] <leftyfb> IntelCore: linux doesn't use "C:"
[18:14] <leftyfb> IntelCore: can you use the mount command on the command line to mount the drive?
[18:14] <IntelCore> Ahaha. No attempt to manually mount it, no leftyfb
[18:14] <leftyfb> IntelCore: please try
[18:14] <leftyfb> IntelCore: you'll need to unmount it first (with unmount)
[18:14] <leftyfb> if it's mounted currently
[18:15] <IntelCore> leftyfb, will it kill windows?
[18:16] <leftyfb> IntelCore: You're asking for help mounting a "windows" drive and insist it used to work. But when asked to mount it, you're asking if it'll "kill windows"?
[18:16] <IntelCore> >> leftyfb, I think tha laptop shutdown in 'hybrid/hibernated' when power went off. Would that do this?
[18:16] <leftyfb> IntelCore: what are you talking about?
[18:18] <IntelCore> leftyfb > I have read on this, days long.  if hiber.sys is on Windows, then it can affect power state, and so I turned off fastboot, and stopped using sleep, and hibernate in Windows.
[18:18] <leftyfb> IntelCore: does Windows boot?
[18:19] <IntelCore> lefty fb > Of course, after the power failure, and it was on 6/5/18.  So, since then I have tried to figure this and resolve it.
[18:19] <pressure679> Ok, my old startup files, whether they were in /etc/rc.d, /etc/environment, or /etc/init.d, are are not compatible no more. Neither is /etc/default/keyboard remapping when the OS switches from a GUI like Budgie to a TTY (The TTY's have a separate)
[18:20] <IntelCore> leftyfb > and I did not have google, just manpages
[18:20] <leftyfb> IntelCore: on Windows, run chkdsk /f and reboot into Windows TWICE. Notice I said TWICE. run chkdsk /f within Windows from a command prompt and then reboot into Windows TWICE.
[18:25] <Comnenus> Is there a way to automatically regenerate keys if /etc/ssh_host_* are missing?  I am trying to seal a template, but I have to start it up and manually run dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server.  Not the end of the world, but if it's not difficult to get rid of that step I would like to.
[18:26] <leftyfb> Comnenus: yes
[18:27] <leftyfb> Comnenus: also, there are ways to ignore the keychecking. Though not recommended.
[18:27] <Comnenus> leftyfb: I can't find any information on how to get it to regenerate automatically.  I'm coming from CentOS where it just does it.
[18:29] <leftyfb> Comnenus: the proper way is to dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[18:29] <leftyfb> Comnenus: what do you mean you're "trying to seal a template"?
[18:29] <IntelCore> leftyfb >  Yes, I did look at chkdsk. (not Twice) < I can do this yes. > Updated 'mount' used < > paste.ubuntu.com/p/ddC5mBXRkc/
[18:30] <leftyfb> IntelCore: I never told you to only type "mount".
[18:30] <Comnenus> leftyfb: It's a VM template that will be cloned.  I delete the ssh host keys, but after a clone, ubuntu does not automatically regenerate them, so ssh won't work.  I have to bring up a console and manually do it.
[18:30] <IntelCore> No leftyfb, but that is what is mounted
[18:30] <leftyfb> IntelCore: also, constantly tacking on data to the same paste over and over only adds confusion.
[18:31] <IntelCore> k
[18:32] <IntelCore> leftyfb, so try to mount windows, and or, first rund the chkdsk twice>
[18:32] <leftyfb> IntelCore: chkdsk
[18:32] <leftyfb> IntelCore: I never said you run chkdsk twice
[18:33] <IntelCore> kool.. i was did that. already, just 1x
[18:33] <leftyfb> IntelCore: on Windows, run chkdsk /f and reboot into Windows TWICE. Notice I said TWICE. run chkdsk /f within Windows from a command prompt and then reboot into Windows TWICE.
[18:33] <IntelCore> Ohhh, reboot twice
[18:33] <IntelCore> gottcha
[18:33] <IntelCore> bbl ian a while leftyfb
[18:48] <lighthunter> Hello folks. My laptop stopped booting when I upgraded from Ubuntu 17.10 to 18.04. I have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 graphics card. I am able to boot when I uninstall the NVIDIA drivers or when I delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf per #72 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752053/+index?comments=all). However, when I delete xorg.conf, I can no longer use external
[18:49] <lighthunter> monitors. Does anyone happen to have any suggestions on how to get external monitors working again? I have already tried upgrading to the 4.16.4 and 4.17 kernels to no avail.
[18:50] <pressure679> ./msg alis list X11
[18:51] <pressure679> Try xorg-devel
[18:51] <compdoc> lighthunter, is it a laptop?
[18:51] <pressure679> or #xorg
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> pressure679: can we help you?
[18:52] <pressure679> Xorg used to depend on xorg.conf, but since either 14.04 or 16.04 it started mingling with handling it's own configuration.
[18:52] <pressure679> lotuspsychje: I am sure you can.
[18:53] <pressure679> lighthunter: are you asking for one of our xorg.conf's?
[18:54] <pressure679> There is no xorg.conf.
[18:55] <pressure679> Are you sure the configuration was not from 17.10?
[19:00]  * SporkWitch can't even remember the last time he had to do something with xorg.conf...
[19:03] <ioria> lighthunter, why don't we try with lightdm ?
[19:07] <lighthunter> compdoc: yes, it is a laptop.
[19:07] <jalt> Hi, I would like to run a short script at boot, but I don't want to make a systemd service (nor use upstart). I know I could add an entry to it in rc.local but I would prefer to simply drop my script into a folder (like /etc/init.d). Is this feasible on a default install of the latest 16.04.4? Any other suggestions? The reason I don't want to write a systemd unit is because this is to be a runonce script, that will delete itself on success (which is why rc.local i
[19:08] <compdoc> lighthunter, there isnt a special funtion key or a physical button that turns off external monitors?
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> !cron | jalt
[19:08] <lighthunter> pressure679: ah, that is interesting. i wonder why the NVIDIA driver would crash when xorg.conf is present though?
[19:09] <jalt> yes, i thought of cron, but I don't want to schedule it at any particular time
[19:10] <jalt> oh, @reboot is a thing
[19:11] <seere> jalt: execute it only if it exists like [ -x /path/to/script ] && /path/to/script
[19:12] <memphisto> jalt: https://askubuntu.com/questions/156771/run-a-script-only-at-the-very-first-boot?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[19:12] <lighthunter> compdoc: it looks like F4 should have something to do with displays, but pushing it or Fn + F4 doesn't seem to do anything whether or not an external monitor is connected.
[19:12] <jalt> memphisto, that's unlikely to work with systemd
[19:13] <jalt> seere, good tip, thanks. and thanks lotuspsychje.
[19:15] <leftyfb> jalt: it does work with systemd
[19:15] <leftyfb> jalt: the script could disable the systemd unit, delete the unit and delete itself
[19:15] <leftyfb> and also be runonce
[19:15] <lighthunter> ioria: thank you for the suggestion. i am rebooting now to test lightdm. brb.
[19:16] <jalt> leftyfb, i meant in recent-ish versions of ubuntu where systemd is the default init system and sysv may or may not be enabled
[19:17] <jalt> and i don't want to create (nor delete) any systemd unit
[19:17] <leftyfb> jalt: again, you could add such a script to systemd that will do exactly as you are asking
[19:17] <ioria> wonder why
[19:17] <jalt> adding a script to systemd = writing a systemd service unit, which is overkill
[19:18] <leftyfb> jalt: creating a new framework around dumping a file into a "folder" and have it run on boot is overkill when there's already mechanisms in place to do this sort of thing
[19:19] <lighthunter> thank you, ioria! sudo apt install lightdm resolved my issue. i can now use my external monitor again with the NVIDIA driver installed.
[19:19] <leftyfb> jalt: why exactly do you need to do this?
[19:19] <ioria> lighthunter, good job
[19:19] <jalt> runonce script
[19:19] <Blondie101010> I have a dozend different systems and only on Ubuntu do I face problems with internal DNS resolution...  the weird part is that only my internal DNS servers are specified in my Ubuntu configuration...  the problem is not related to the local search (in /etc/resolv.conf) as the problem is the same with the FQDN...  any ideas on troubleshooting this intermittent issue?
[19:19] <leftyfb> jalt: you said, that. What does the script do?
[19:19] <lighthunter> is it safe to sudo apt purge gdm3? apparently ubuntu-desktop would be removed, which sounds bad.
[19:19] <jalt> and sysv worked that way, you just dump the script into the right folder and it get executed. no other config is needed
[19:20] <jalt> the script will call another script with certain parameters (this second script is a deployment script)
[19:20] <jalt> basically the deployment script needs a reboot and then it resumes
[19:20] <SporkWitch> lighthunter: gdm is a dep for the default DE; you should be able to install an alternative DM, disable gdm3 via systemd, and enable the new one
[19:21] <jalt> the little stub script will pass a parameter saying that the reboot was done and the main script can now resume
[19:21] <leftyfb> jalt: I use rc.local for exactly this sort of thing without issue
[19:21] <jalt> yes, but it is hard to remove it aftrerwards
[19:21] <lighthunter> SporkWitch: i have a feeling sudo apt install lightdm would have done those steps automatically. does that sound right, or am i off base here?
[19:21] <leftyfb> jalt: not at all
[19:22] <SporkWitch> lighthunter: i wouldn't venture to guess
[19:22] <blackflow> Blondie101010: "internal DNS"?
[19:22] <leftyfb> jalt: echo "exit 0" > /etc/rc.local # removed
[19:22] <jalt> leftyb: you are making assumptions about what rc.local might contain
[19:22] <lighthunter> cool; i will just leave gdm3 installed; it probably doesn't use all that much space anyways.
[19:23] <leftyfb> jalt: it shouldn't contact that much really. If anything in there is of any importance in a production environment, rc.local isn't the proper place for them.
[19:23] <Blondie101010> blackflow:  I have two internal DNS servers for my internal domain and that zone is the only one affected by this weird issue....  `dig` on each DNS server returns the right values but I get a "Temporary failure in name resolution" when trying to ping it
[19:23] <lighthunter> out of curiosity i am going to reboot with xorg.conf replaced and see what happens now that i am using lightdm.
[19:23] <ioria> jalt, you know that even /etc/rc.local has been dropped in 18.04 ?
[19:23] <leftyfb> jalt: you could echo a template or make a backup or use sed to remove the line containing the script name
[19:24] <blackflow> Blondie101010: how is the resolver configured? Or is the resolver the one being authoritative for the internal domain, and forwarding/caching for all else?
[19:24] <ioria> jalt, in one 'rude' word : forget about run levels
[19:25] <Blondie101010> blackflow:  it is authoritative for my internal zone and does indeed cache recursive requests
[19:25] <leftyfb> Blondie101010: nmcli device show|grep DNS
[19:25] <jalt> leftyb: yes, i would have to use sed or tr
[19:25] <Blondie101010> leftyfb:  I'm apparently not using network-manager as it asks me to install it
[19:26] <Kaedenn> I'm trying to apt-get upgrade but am unable to connect to the upgrades server for about a week now: 0% [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[19:26] <blackflow> Blondie101010: is this a server or a desktop?
[19:26] <Kaedenn> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:26] <Blondie101010> blackflow:  server with the latest build
[19:26] <leftyfb> Blondie101010: What version of ubuntu?
[19:27] <blackflow> Blondie101010: then I would recommend you completely mask out systemd-resolved. Use a static resolv.conf or have it set up by dhcp, if your network setup is dhcp.
[19:27] <pressure679> Kaedenn: afaik Ubuntu LTS only gets updates for 4 years.
[19:27] <blackflow> you don't really need a local/stub resolver on the machine.
[19:27] <Kaedenn> pressure679: The upgrades are being distributed but I'm unable to download them
[19:27] <leftyfb> pressure679: 5
[19:27] <Blondie101010> blackflow:  no DHCP in this setup...  my machines all have static IPs...  perhaps your solution would work as it would make it similar to my other machines
[19:28] <pressure679> Kardenn: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_version_history#Version_timeline
[19:28] <leftyfb> Kaedenn: try a different mirror for your sources
[19:28] <leftyfb> pressure679: 14.04 is still supported
[19:28] <pressure679> Oh, yeah. My bad.
[19:28] <Blondie101010> blackflow:  can you hint me on disabling systemd-resolved to do a quick test?
[19:28] <blackflow> Blondie101010: one of frist things I do post install is to remove systemd-resolved.
[19:28] <Kaedenn> wait, I think the problem would be the local University network
[19:28] <Kaedenn> leftyfb: How do I configure a different mirror?
[19:29] <blackflow> Blondie101010: systemctl mask systemd-resolved; unlink /etc/resolv.conf; echo -e "#\nnameserver <IP_ADDRESS>\nsearch example.com" > /etc/resolv.conf   (use proper values)
[19:29] <IntelCore> leftyfb ?
[19:29] <blackflow> Blondie101010: oh also, systemctl stop systemd-resolved   after masking
[19:29] <leftyfb> Kaedenn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Ubuntu_Software_Tab
[19:29] <Kaedenn> I think the University network is attempting to resolve that IP address locally
[19:29] <Kaedenn> leftyfb: thank you
[19:30] <leftyfb> Blondie101010: dig <HOST> | grep SERVER
[19:30] <Blondie101010> leftyfb:  `dig` always worked fine
[19:30] <IntelCore> leftyfb ? seems that .. c: was clean, ran chkdsk /F , anyway. had to boot it twice. AND ubuntu had no fail mounting.  I will however, watch this
[19:31] <leftyfb> IntelCore: it wasn't "clean" if it fixed the issue
[19:31] <leftyfb> Blondie101010: notice the grep. Looking for what servers you're using to resolve
[19:31] <IntelCore> leftyfb, it said no errors.. but I then used chkdsk /F and rebooted again after that
[19:31] <Blondie101010> leftyfb:  I specify each with @server
[19:32] <Blondie101010> leftyfb:  I know `dig`
[19:32] <leftyfb> IntelCore: ok, problem solved
[19:32] <IntelCore> yes. thanks to you. leftyfb
[19:32] <leftyfb> Blondie101010: I'm saying to use dig without specifying a server to do the lookup to see what server(s) your system is actually using
[19:33] <ioria> Blondie101010, why your repo is set to University of Alaska  ?
[19:33] <Blondie101010> leftyfb:  oh it's a bit late, but your solution solved it...  things got back to normal once I `systemctl mask systemd-resolved; unlink /etc/resolv.conf` and redid my /etc/resolv.conf
[19:33] <leftyfb> ioria: wrong person
[19:33] <leftyfb> Blondie101010: that wasn't my solution
[19:33] <Blondie101010> ioria:  I don't know what you're refering to
[19:33] <blackflow> Blondie101010: that's.... that's... that's mine!   :)
[19:33] <leftyfb> my solution was to track down the problem, not mask it
[19:33] <ioria> sorry
[19:33] <Blondie101010> blackflow does deserve the credit +++
[19:34] <Kaedenn> I'm now getting "Err http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu trusty/universe i386 Packages" and "Bad header line [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]"
[19:34] <blackflow> systemd-resolved is a steaming pile. fact. remove when possible. I have no idea why Ubuntu opted to default to it. Riddled with bugs, CVEs and opinions.
[19:34] <Blondie101010> I don't need a local DNS cache anyways as I have 2 servers that deal with it internally
[19:34] <leftyfb> Kaedenn: what mirror are you using?
[19:34] <blackflow> Blondie101010: and if you did, unbound is the key. Or bind if oyu need a mix of authoritative and recursive with advanced features. I use Bind everywhere.
[19:35] <Kaedenn> Uh, a kernel.org one. I don't recall offhand; I selected the "best" one from the automatic test
[19:35] <Kaedenn> leftyfb: one moment
[19:35] <leftyfb> Kaedenn: you should try us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:36] <ioria> Kaedenn, system-settings-> software&updates
[19:36] <Kaedenn> leftyfb: I'm now using that one
[19:36] <Blondie101010> leftyfb:  it returns `SERVER: <IP_ADDRESS>#53(<IP_ADDRESS>)` which is one of the two servers I digged with
[19:36] <IntelCore> < Will be back, when ubuntu freaks me out again. Thanks.
[19:36] <leftyfb> Blondie101010: doesn't matter now.
[19:37] <Blondie101010> blackflow:  I use bind too
[19:37] <Kaedenn> leftyfb: ...I'm now getting the same problem where "0% [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)]" times out
[19:37] <Kaedenn> (for apt-get upgrade)
[19:37] <Kaedenn> (and yes, I did apt-get update)
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> Kaedenn: for known mirror issues you can also check #ubuntu-mirrors
[19:38] <Kaedenn> lotuspsychje: I'll try that, thank you
[19:39] <ioria> Kaedenn, did you change the server  in software&updates ?
[19:39] <Kaedenn> ioria: Yes
[19:41] <ioria> Kaedenn, then you should have <IP_ADDRESS> not that
[19:41] <Kaedenn> How do I verify what mirror apt-get is using?
[19:41] <Kaedenn> via the command-line
[19:42] <ioria> Kaedenn, just cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:42] <leftyfb> Kaedenn: you'll also see it when you run apt-get update
[19:42] <oerheks> Kaedenn, i wonder why you ask that..
[19:43] <Kaedenn> Because 137.229.?.? is a local IP address to the university I'm work at.
[19:43] <Kaedenn> So I have no idea why it's trying to connect to th--OH. VPN. >_<
[19:43] <ioria> Kaedenn, that ip is dead
[19:43] <Kaedenn> Disconnecting from the VPN fixed the problem/
[19:44] <Kaedenn> s/\//./
[19:49] <Jack71> !!
[20:06] <Jack71> ....
[20:07] <lighthunter> looks like lightdm gets further than gdm3 with /etc/X11/xorg.conf and NVIDIA drivers present on Ubuntu 18.04. it gets to the login screen, but you get stuck in an endless login loop. i removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf for good and stuck with lightdm, and am able to reliably use my external monitor. thanks again for the help.
[20:08] <Dal1980> Hey guys
[20:10] <Dal1980> does anyone know the location of tty1.conf on ubuntu 18.04? Tried `/etc/event.d/` and `/etc/init/` from what I keep reading they should be there but no tty1.conf at them locations (or any tty related names)
[20:11] <twocarlo_> anybody using ECS A68M-C4DL motherboard on ubuntu
[20:13] <oerheks> Dal1980,   the tty conf file is unique now<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:13] <oerheks> * since systemD
[20:14] <Dal1980> Thanks oerheks. Will that allow me to edit the same way for auto login (turned DM off so now I just drop straight to CLI login)
[20:16] <oerheks> Dal1980, err, no, you set systemctrl to multy-user. target
[20:17] <oerheks> sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[20:17] <oerheks> and back to gui login: sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target
[20:18] <Dal1980> Sorry seems so much I've learnt is talking about a previous version of ubuntu lol
[20:19] <Dal1980> Yeah I ran that systemctrl set-default multi-user.target to stop gnome from loading
[20:20] <Dal1980> systemctl*
[20:22] <Dal1980> I just need this to autologin in cli, I don't want or need gnome desktop environment, any ideas?
[20:26] <Dal1980> Think I found something to read http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/agetty.8.html thanks
[20:27] <oerheks> maybe this page example is a help http://linuxaleph.blogspot.com/2017/05/commandline-auto-login-in-ubuntu-1604.html
[20:34] <Pencil2> Hello  My ubuntu on my sony dual boot has been so successful I use it every day .  I decided to dual boot my wife's HP.  Completely different.  Not happy
[20:35] <syborg> hi Pencil2, so what happened exactly?
[20:35] <Pencil2> Both 18.04.  The hp wont offer me the windows or ubuntu when i boot it.
[20:36] <Pencil2> The screen that comes up is totally different.   I spend too much time trying to find things.
[20:37] <syborg> so what screen does come up, exactly? Are you able to boot into windows or linux after selecting some option, or you can't boot either at all?
[20:37] <croberts> i wonder if its uefi
[20:37] <croberts> if you make it boot legacy bios do you see the windows/ubuntu
[20:37] <Pencil2> When  I power up the HP I have to hold the f9 to get ubuntu.  Otherewise I get windows
[20:39] <oerheks> sounds indeed lika an UEFI issue vs legacy bios
[20:40] <leftyfb> Pencil2: what comes up when you hold f9?
[20:40] <leftyfb> Pencil2: are there multiple hard drives?
[20:40] <Pencil2> I don't have a clue how to fix this.   I went to windows and disk manager I deleted the linux side and started over.  No help
[20:41] <Pencil2> I deleted the linux side and started over with a different distro I got from a magazine.  No help
[20:41] <leftyfb> Pencil2: if you deleted the linux side, then there's nothing to be done here until you reinstall ubuntu
[20:42] <Pencil2> I still have to start with power up and f9
[20:42] <leftyfb> Pencil2: do you have ubuntu installed?
[20:42] <Dal1980> oerheks> maybe this page example is a help http://linuxaleph.blogspot.com/2017/05/commandline-auto-login-in-ubuntu-1604.html <- thanks. I ended up using that but rebooting just lands me at a blank screen with a flashing cursor at the top left now.... hmm
[20:42] <Pencil2> Yes.  That's how I know the second and third install didn't help
[20:43] <leftyfb> Pencil2: What comes up when you press F9 at boot?
[20:43] <Pencil2> The desktop comes up.
[20:44] <leftyfb> Pencil2: which desktop?
[20:44] <Pencil2> I'm sorry.  The options come up and I select ubutu (ST2000LX001
[20:45] <Pencil2> Then theres a list and i select ubuntu.
[20:45] <ceibal> CEIBAL
[20:45] <leftyfb> ok, then this is definitely a UEFI thing. Which I know only enough to disable immediately upon acquiring a machine
[20:46] <Pencil2> khul
[20:47] <leftyfb> that's not to say someone else here can't help you. Or you can't research how to set UEFI to boot ubuntu by default or maybe even how to install ubuntu properly so UEFI gets setup properly
[20:47] <Pencil2> Finally I get a login .  From there  it works sorta ok
[20:48] <Pencil2> You;ve helped.  Thanks
[20:48] <Pencil2> I'll google that
[20:49] <xocolatl> hi. ever since upgrading to 18.04, my external hdmi isn't recognized any more
[20:49] <xocolatl> I don't know where to look
[20:50] <xocolatl> it's a lenovo carbon x1 with dongle
[20:51] <xocolatl> but 16.04 had no problem with it
[20:53] <xocolatl> rebooting, brb
[20:55] <xocolatl> fully upgraded, still doesn't work
[20:55] <pressure679> The day before yesterday I complimented the graphical rendering and processing, but that was in comparison to Xubuntu 16.04 and Ubuntu Budgie 18.04, which might not be entirely fair to xorg.
[20:56] <xocolatl> any ideas?
[20:57] <Dal1980> Guys how to I get into 18.04 safe mode? Tried holding shift after rebooting - that didn't work, tried pressing esc key repeatedly after rebooting that didn't work either.
[20:59] <pressure679> iirc press ctrl a few times during the time between the bios and linux boot screen, Dal1980
[20:59] <leftyfb> Dal1980: why do you need to get into "safe mode"?
[20:59] <pressure679> That should bring up a menu of choice of kernels, where one of them are "safe-mode"
[20:59] <xocolatl> has anyone else experienced problems with 18.04 and an external monitor?
[21:00] <Dal1980> thanks pressure679 - unfortunately that didn't work either
[21:01] <pressure679> xocolatl: Do you mean with a desktop or a laptop?
[21:01] <xocolatl> laptop
[21:01] <xocolatl> lenovo carbon x1 with hdmi dongle
[21:01] <Dal1980> leftyfb: because I went to this link http://linuxaleph.blogspot.com/2017/05/commandline-auto-login-in-ubuntu-1604.html <- thanks. I ended up using that but rebooting just lands me at a blank screen with a flashing cursor at the top left now.... hmm
[21:01] <xocolatl> 16.04 worked just fine
[21:02] <u0m3> hi. anyone here could help me with an update/upgrade issue? I ran "apt update && apt full-upgrade --auto-remove -y" and it hung on update-initramfs... before that, dkms complained about some missing kernel headers
[21:03] <leftyfb> u0m3: it more than likely didn't hang up on update-initramfs , it just takes a while
[21:03] <leftyfb> u0m3: run it again
[21:03] <yaldak> u0m3: Couldn't tell you but my advice is, when updating packages, go slow and dont try to cram it all in one command
[21:03] <yaldak> You never know
[21:03] <yaldak> I've caught garbage that shouldn't be installed, be installed
[21:03] <yaldak> -y is danger
[21:04] <u0m3> leftyfb, it's a bit more than 'it takes a while'... it's been like this for almost 48h
[21:04] <yaldak> what does dkms say
[21:04] <yaldak> put in pastebin
[21:05] <xocolatl> everything I'm seeing online is about nvidia but I don't have nvidia
[21:06] <yaldak> online and real world are two different universes
[21:06] <yaldak> everyone has different setups
[21:07] <xocolatl> that's why I'm asking for help
[21:08] <pressure679> Maybe it needs electricity... jk
[21:08] <xocolatl> okay, so I guess no one presently in here can actually help
[21:08] <leftyfb> !patience | xocolatl
[21:08] <pressure679> Umm, the xorg server relies partly on config files, but if they are non-existent xorg does not create a new xorg.conf file.
[21:09] <nacc> xocolatl: i have 18.04 on two machines, and both work fine with their external monitor
[21:09] <nacc> pressure679: it does not 'rely' on it, to be clear. It will parse them if present, but they are not present by default.
[21:09] <xocolatl> I didn't have to make any config files for 16.04, why do I have to with 18.04?
[21:09] <pressure679> nacc: yeah, sorry for my bad interpretation.
[21:09] <xocolatl> what are they and what should I put in them?
[21:11] <jcdutton> xocolatl, what does xrandr output
[21:12] <nacc> xocolatl: you don't need any config files
[21:12] <xocolatl> http://dpaste.com/2H23D7W
[21:12] <xocolatl> nacc: I need something!
[21:12] <nacc> xocolatl: your system is not reported any connected displays
[21:12] <nacc> xocolatl: what dongle is this?
[21:13] <xocolatl> startech.  came with the laptop, never had any problem until 18.04
[21:13] <nacc> xocolatl: when you plug it in, do you see any messages in `dmesg`?
[21:13] <oerheks> maybe the FN + display key ..
[21:13] <nacc> oerheks: also a possibility, yeah; in theory the same feature is accessible from "Displays"
[21:14] <xocolatl> "displays" as been so dumbed down since 16.04 it's pretty much useless
[21:14] <leftyfb> I don't think the Fn display key affects interacting with usb display dongles
[21:14] <xocolatl> it's not usb
[21:14] <xocolatl> I don't know what it is
[21:14] <leftyfb> xocolatl: what sort of dongle is it then?
[21:14] <nacc> xocolatl: it works great here, not sure what you mean
[21:14] <leftyfb> what type of port does it plug into?
[21:14] <xocolatl> I don't recognize it
[21:15] <nacc> xocolatl: is it a thunderbolt adapter (small rectangle)
[21:15] <jcdutton> xocolatl, does it have anything written on it?
[21:15] <pressure679> I think you mean firewire nacc
[21:15] <leftyfb> xocolatl: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Mini_DisplayPort_on_Apple_MacBook.jpg/1024px-Mini_DisplayPort_on_Apple_MacBook.jpg
[21:15] <nacc> pressure679: no.
[21:15] <xocolatl> leftyfb: yes, that
[21:16] <nacc> there's usb-c, thunderbolt, mini-dp, etc.
[21:16] <leftyfb> mini display port
[21:16] <pressure679> Ooh, thunderbolt adapter, nice.
[21:16] <xocolatl> thanks
[21:16] <leftyfb> it's not thunderbolt
[21:16] <nacc> leftyfb: right.
[21:16] <u0m3> yaldak, sorry for the delay, had to figure out how to paste from tmux http://termbin.com/pr6b
[21:17] <nacc> xocolatl: iirc,  you can tail -f ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log when you unplug and plug in your mini-dp dongle. see if anything is logged
[21:18] <leftyfb> dmesg -w
[21:18] <jcdutton> xocolatl, tail -f /var/log/kern.log     and see if you get any output when you plug and unplug it
[21:18] <oerheks> u0m3, Please install the linux-headers-4.4.0-116-generic package ..
[21:18] <nacc> leftyfb: i'm not 100% kernel messages will be emitted
[21:19] <oerheks> linux errors are so much fun
[21:19] <nacc> leftyfb: the display side is weird, the events are like standard ones, iirc
[21:19] <u0m3> oerheks, well yes, but the question is, should I force-cancel the current running apt?
[21:19] <xocolatl> none of those three did anything when I unplugged/plugged it :(
[21:20] <xocolatl> so I guess the system itself isn't recognizing it?
[21:20] <nacc> xocolatl: that would be my initial guess, but i'm not sure
[21:20] <oerheks> u0m3, if this is going on for hours, yes, ctrl + c
[21:21] <xocolatl> 16.04 recognized it just fine :(
[21:21] <xocolatl> I guess I'll have to reinstall that :(
[21:21] <leftyfb> xocolatl: slow down cowboy
[21:21] <jcdutton> xocolatl,   lspci -v    what does that output?
[21:22] <nacc> oerheks: some odd output in there (about stdin) and then it's weird the postinst is runing at all since it's a remove
[21:22] <xocolatl> jcdutton: http://dpaste.com/2PYBFCP
[21:23] <oerheks> nacc, might be the cuda cuda-drivers thingy that gives this issue.. remember something before that looks like this
[21:24] <jcdutton> xocolatl, did you maybe disable something in the bios?
[21:24] <xocolatl> not on purpose
[21:24] <nacc> oerheks: yeah could be
[21:24] <xocolatl> don't remember last time I was in the bios
[21:31] <jcdutton> xrandr --auto
[21:31] <jcdutton> then     xrandr     what does it output?
[21:32] <oerheks> xocolatl, check for bios updates too
[21:33] <jcdutton> oerheks, he left
[21:33] <oerheks> sorry, i am slow on fridays
[21:33] <jcdutton> leftyfb, he had a Lenovo laptop, not an Apple
[21:34] <leftyfb> jcdutton: and?
[21:34] <jcdutton> it does not have a thunderbolt port. So he would have been plugging into a normal HDMI or mini-HDMI port
[21:35] <jcdutton> or VGA port
[21:35] <leftyfb> jcdutton: I never said it was a thunderbolt port. In fact, I confirmed it was a mini display port.
[21:35] <xocolatl> jcdutton: nothing seems amiss in the bios
[21:35] <dannye456789> So I installed ubuntu on my Acer Aspire Cloudbook 14. I had to add the UEFI so that I was able to boot into Ubuntu. I messed something up so I reinstalled it and now I can't get ubuntu to boot up at all I just get a error saying no boot media found. When I try to readd the UEFI file it says that it already exists. I don't know what to do to fix this problem. I can install windows and it boots without and issue.
[21:37] <jcdutton> xocolatl, xrandr --auto
[21:37] <jcdutton> xocolatl, then     xrandr     what does it output?
[21:37] <xocolatl> same output as before
[21:37] <jcdutton> Did you power on the laptop with the new display connected?   Sometimes it will not work if you connect it after
[21:38] <Danny_> So I installed ubuntu on my Acer Aspire Cloudbook 14. I had to add the UEFI so that I was able to boot into Ubuntu. I messed something up so I reinstalled it and now I can't get ubuntu to boot up at all I just get a error saying no boot media found. When I try to readd the UEFI file it says that it already exists. I don't know what to do to fix this problem. I can install windows and it boots without and issue.
[21:39] <xocolatl> jcdutton: good news for you, bad news for me.  I switched to the vga dongle and it worked
[21:39] <Xenega> Danny_, do you have the same error if you boot without secure boot ?
[21:39] <jcdutton> xocolatl, great, so it is working fine now?
[21:39] <johnjelinek> hi all
[21:40] <xocolatl> jcdutton: hdmi is not working.  I guess I need to find out if it's my dongle or my cable
[21:40] <leftyfb> xocolatl: I've had multiple mini display adapters just go bad ... especially the cheap no-name ones
[21:40] <Danny_> Xenega: Yes ive tried disabling secure boot and activing Legacy Boot
[21:40] <johnjelinek> I'm trying to go from Ubuntu Server, install Ubuntu Desktop on it, and enable the gnome VNC server (vino) all from the terminal
[21:40] <johnjelinek> any ideas how to do that last part?
[21:40] <Danny_> Xenega: Stiil get the same output every time
[21:40] <Xenega> Danny_, do not work ?
[21:40] <jcdutton> xocolatl, when it works, does xrandr see it?
[21:41] <Danny_> Xenega: Still doesn't work. So I don't know what the issue is
[21:41] <johnjelinek> I thought this might work: `gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true` but it doesn't: `No such key “enabled”`
[21:41] <Xenega> Danny_, https://itsfoss.com/no-bootable-device-found-ubuntu/ <<< have you tried that ?
[21:41] <xocolatl> jcdutton: when I plug vga in, I get some lines for DP-1, yes  (do you want to see them?)
[21:41] <jcdutton> no, it is ok, anything instead of disconnected is good
[21:42] <leftyfb> xocolatl: if you get nothing when plugging in the mDP, then my guess is the adapter is bad. Could try fiddling with it a bit after it's plugged in and watch logs/dmesg
[21:42] <Danny_> Xenega: That's what I got after I installed ubuntu the first time. I added the UEFI file and ubuntu worked. I reinstalled ubuntu and now I get just a text screen saying no bootable media found and when I try to add the UEFI file it continues to give me the same error
[21:42] <xocolatl> I'm going to just buy a new one.  hopefully they'll have them at the airport
[21:43] <xocolatl> (I'm giving a presentation monday)
[21:43] <Xenega> Danny_, when you choose the EFI file, the name is shimx64, right ?
[21:44] <jcdutton> xocolatl, Which Lenovo laptop do you have?
[21:44] <xocolatl> carbon x1
[21:44] <Danny_> Xenega: Correct
[21:45] <xocolatl> too bad svga doesn't carry sound
[21:47] <Xenega> Danny_, when have I got a problem with my UEFI, I have used Boot-Repair. Avoid to type a lot of command.
[21:48] <Danny_> Xenega: what is boot-repair?
[21:48] <jcdutton> xocolatl, could you use HDMI port instead?
[21:49] <xocolatl> that's what we just determined I couldn't do
[21:50] <Xenega> Danny_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:52] <jcdutton> xocolatl, did you try powering off, plugging in the HDMI, then powering on again?
[21:52] <xocolatl> yes
[21:52] <xocolatl> well, no, but I rebooted with the thing plugged in
[21:52] <jcdutton> Is it plugging into a TV?
[21:52] <xocolatl> yes
[21:53] <jcdutton> Do you have any other HDMI cables you could try?
[21:53] <xocolatl> not on me, no
[21:55] <jcdutton> Can you test the HDMI cable you have into a different machine?  blueray player, xbox anything?
[21:55] <xocolatl> I'm at a hotel
[21:56] <xocolatl> and it's midnight :)
[21:56] <sla3k> They should have a dish/set-top-box etc etc. and a TV...
[21:56] <xocolatl> just a tv
[21:56] <sla3k> and probably hdmi cables connecting it
[21:57] <sla3k> bummer
[21:57] <jcdutton> xocolatl, you could try reception. They might have one they use for conferences.
[21:57] <xocolatl> I doubt they get many conferences at this place :)  it's a tiny hotel out in the countryside
[21:58] <jcdutton> There is still a possibility, although slight, that it is a software problem.
[21:58] <xocolatl> that would allow the vga dongle to work but not the hdmi one?
[21:59] <jcdutton> was the vga dongle plugged into the HDMI port?
[21:59] <xocolatl> I only have a mini display port
[22:00] <xocolatl> vga, hdmi, and dvi dongles plug into that
[22:00] <xocolatl> I don't have a dvi cable so I can't test that
[22:02] <jcdutton> xocolatl, you have a normal sized hdmi cable?
[22:02] <xocolatl> yes
[22:02] <jcdutton> plug that into the HDMI port on the laptop. It has one
[22:02] <xocolatl> it does not have one
[22:03] <jcdutton> xocolatl, is this your laptop: https://www.cnet.com/products/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-3rd-generation-intel-core-i7-5600u-2-60ghz-1600mhz-4mb/specs/
[22:05] <jcdutton> xocolatl, it is vary rare to not have a HDMI
[22:05] <xocolatl> https://www.pcmag.com/review/344275/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-2012
[22:05] <xocolatl> see "cons"
[22:07] <jcdutton> xocolatl, Ah!
[22:08] <sla3k> So from the previous messages, you have mDP to HDMI cable, mDP on laptop side and HDMI on tv side.
[22:08] <sla3k> God it took some reading before figuring that out
[22:09] <jcdutton> xocolatl, so if the VGA pluged into the DP port and worked, but the HDMI one did not, it is most likely the dongle
[22:10] <sla3k> And from lsusb output, I don't see anything apart from VGAlspci -v
[22:10] <xocolatl> that's the conclusion I've come to.  now I need to find a store that sells one tomorrow.  not easy where I am.  or if they have them at the airport on monday morning, that will do
[22:10] <SimonNL> xocolatl: anything you could change in the source settings of the TV?
[22:10] <sla3k> Sorry for that, lspci -v doesn't seems to list anything apart from few USB and a VGA
[22:11] <xocolatl> tv has two hdmi ports and neither of them work
[22:11] <xocolatl> I think the problem is on my side
[22:22] <Maltea> Hey, i have trouble with ubuntu 18.04 with dns being ignored from my dhcp and also on manual config and on resolv.conf can anyone help? Im kinda at lost how to solve this issue as i can ping just fine.
[22:23] <xocolatl> jcdutton: thank you for your help
[22:24] <jcdutton> xocolatl, take your laptop along to the shop and make sure the mDP adapter works before you leave
[22:26] <glasshaus> how can i install a additional firmware, is it enough to copy the firmware in the diretory /lib/firmware and restart the pc?
[22:26] <jcdutton> glasshaus, depends what the firmware is for
[22:27] <glasshaus> dvb usb adapter
[22:27] <jcdutton> yes, simply copying the firmware to /lib/firmware and removing the USB device and plugging it in again should work
[22:27] <glasshaus> ty
[22:28] <jcdutton> glasshaus, some devices only load the DVB firmware when you go to try and tune to a channel
[22:30] <glasshaus> jcdutton my dvb adapter isen't  official supported and a firmware is not present in the kernel. that's why i ask. i found a firmware on a website for the usb device ( DVB )
[22:36] <Maltea> Hey, i have trouble with ubuntu 18.04 lts with dns being ignored from my dhcp and also on static setup and on resolv.conf can anyone help? Im kinda at loss how to solve this issue as i can ping just fine. I have also simplifed my network setup to be as generic as possible. I have also tried alternate dns servers and i can ping them.
[22:39] <Halian> Hello
[22:40] <Halian> I'm having a problem where one of my hard drives, a 3 TB Seagate model, isn't showing up in Ubuntu 18.04 x64 in any way, shape, or form, and I don't see any error messages when running `dmesg | grep ata`. What can I do to coax it out of hiding?
[22:41] <Maltea> Halian, can you confirm that the drive is detected in bios?
[22:42] <Halian> Maltea: the drive is indeed detected in UEFI, as well as my other two OSes, Mac OS X* and Windows (* this computer is a hackintosh)
[22:42] <Halian> D: *pours ice water on sparklyballs2*
[22:43] <Maltea> Halian: perfect do you get a linux device id such as sdf etc?
[22:43] <oerheks>  if that drive is exfat, you need 2 utils: sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[22:43] <Halian> Maltea: no
[22:43] <Halian> oerheks: thanks; the other partition is HFS+
[22:44] <Halian> (and that dovetails into my other question: how, if at all, can you read HFS+ and APFS on Ubuntu?)
[22:44] <oerheks> oh, good to mention afterwards...
[22:44] <Halian> oerheks: Sorry, I was worried the problem was something greater, since I'm not even getting device IDs or recognition in e.g. gparted.
[22:59] <santost12> are there any alternatives to this(https://github.com/kriswebdev/cryptsetup-deluks) that someone could recommend?
[22:59] <santost12> anyone here use that?
[23:01] <oerheks> Halian, maybe worth checking your windows to see if fastboot is enabled
[23:01] <oerheks> else hfsprogs are needed ofcourse
[23:02] <oerheks> !info hfsprogs
[23:02] <Halian> I have hfsprogs installed, I'm just waiting for an opportune lull in my umpteen zillion chat channels to reboot
[23:22] <Dexx1_> How do I fix when my terminal is stuck at update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-41-generic after doing a 'sudo apt-get upgrade'?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: How long have you waited ? A lot of old kernels still installed. will take a while to crunch .
[23:28] <oerheks> when the caps lock light switching works, just wait
[23:28] <oerheks> and hdd led activity
[23:31] <sonicwind> this post might help?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1667512/comments/7
[23:31] <sonicwind> :-)
[23:32] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: 25 mins
[23:32] <Dexx1_> also, killed it with CTRL C a while back, and this is the second attempt
[23:32] <Dexx1_> I am just trying to upgrade jekyll and this happened
[23:32] <Dexx1_> While trying to do: sudo apt-get upgrade jekyll
[23:33] <Dexx1_> ^ Bashing-om
[23:34] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: I agree, should have completed by now .. what shows ' ps -e | grep apt ' ?
[23:34] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: ps -e | grep apt shows nothing
[23:34] <Dexx1_> (in a new tab)
[23:37] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: Good - I guess - as the package manager is no longer running . Let's see what we can find out . What results now with ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' . See that the pckage manger is in a consustent state .. then we look at installed kernels .
[23:37] <t3kg33k> Greetings all
[23:38] <t3kg33k> Can anyone recommend a good wifi monitoring tool that I can use to test for traffic and congestion, specifically on my 2.4 GHz band?
[23:39] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: it's doing neo in the matrix style scrolling :p
[23:39] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: you want me to kill the other tab where it's stuck? (CTRL C)?
[23:40] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: output: https://pastebin.com/raw/sN9UEiAs
[23:41] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: Looking .
[23:42] <sonicwind> is that the output of the dpkg -C?
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: Yeah, seems apt is still running on the system. try to shut down apt-get gracefully.
[23:44] <Bashing-om> ' sudo pkill -1 apt-get' .
[23:44] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: You want me to CTRL+C the other tab where it's stuck at intra...?
[23:44] <Dexx1_> (on update-initramfs:)
[23:46] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: You are in deep enough with broke configs - try the gracefull way please .
[23:47] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: ps -e | grep apt shows nothing -- but tab is closed X_X
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: IF you ran the update as 'apt' then try as ' sudo pkill -1 apt-get' .
[23:48] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: IF you ran the update as 'apt' then try as ' sudo pkill -1 apt' !!
[23:48] <Dexx1_> k retrying previous command
[23:49] <motte> how to set display to turn off automatically after a period of inactivty on a 18.04 ubuntu server without X?
[23:50] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: now stuck at: Hit:12 https://packagecloud.io/slacktechnologies/slack/debian jessie InRelease 0% [Waiting for headers]
[23:50] <Dexx1_> k, nvm it's moving
[23:51] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: Whoa .. what has the "jessie" source have to do with ubuntu ?
[23:51] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: not sure if it's the same, but here: https://pastebin.com/raw/z84Mq6N9
[23:52] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: this is elementaryOS, which is built on Ubuntu AFAIK
[23:53] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: Sorry - not - but based on is not ubuntu .. things in EOS are changed we know nothing about .
[23:53] <Bashing-om> !eos | Dexx1_
[23:54] <Bashing-om> !elementary | Dexx1_
[23:55] <Dexx1_> ah
[23:55] <oerheks> panteon desktop has its own issues indeed