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[06:53] <MarkDude> Great geeknic today. Nice seeing everyone
[06:55] <sn9> indeed
[17:39] <BrightAmbition> hello?
[17:39] <MarkDude> hello BrightAmbition
[17:39] <pleia2> good morning
[17:39] <BrightAmbition> :)
[17:39]  * MarkDude posted pics from geeknic on FB
[17:40]  * MarkDude can post some on picasa later
[17:40] <BrightAmbition> k
[17:40] <MarkDude> Are we friends on FB?
[17:42] <BrightAmbition> I think so
[18:08] <jledbetter> MarkDude, BrightAmbitionNice meeting y'all yesterday and pleia2 great seeing you again :)
[18:08] <pleia2> jledbetter: you too!
[18:09] <MarkDude> Nice finally meeting you in person jledbetter - I wish I would have remembered the Google TV shirt I grabbed for you a while ago
[18:10] <jledbetter> MarkDude, Me too. Guess I'll have to make it to another geeknic or something ;)
[18:11] <jledbetter> pleia2, And got my commit in. Here's hoping for a tshirt! raar
[18:12] <akk> yay jledbetter
[18:12] <pleia2> jledbetter: me too!
[18:12] <akk> me too
[18:13] <jledbetter> akk, Awesome!
[18:13] <jledbetter> I brought my laptop to the geeknic in case there was coding since time was tight. But no laptops were out!
[18:13] <pleia2> hehe
[18:14] <pleia2> I brought mine too, but mostly that was so I could use it on BART on the ride over
[18:14] <akk> I had mine in the trunk at the south bay geeknic, but never went to get it.
[18:14] <akk> I do always bring one to Picnix, though, and usually use it a little.
[18:14] <MarkDude> Yep, the only times we have used them was to look at pics, or play music
[18:15] <akk> At the past picnix I helped somebody with ... I forget, but a newbie was trying to solve some hard problem so we were trying to find answers.
[18:17] <jledbetter> Cool beans
[18:54] <sn9> i'm not sure which person was jledbetter
[18:57] <akk> At in-person gatherings, we should wear nametags with IRC nicks and email addresses on them.
[18:57] <pleia2> yeah, I mentioned that yesterday when I met BrightAmbition "I'm Lyz" "hm" "pleia2" "oh!"
[18:57] <pleia2> :)
[18:57] <sn9> akk: linuxpicnic already does that
[18:59] <BrightAmbition> lol
[18:59] <BrightAmbition> Really?
[19:00] <akk> I don't remember doing that at linuxpicnic ... maybe I didn't RTFM. :)
[19:02] <MarkDude> akk- I agree
[19:03] <sn9> akk: it's always been in the rsvp form
[19:03] <jledbetter> sn9, I had a blue coexist shirt on
[19:03] <MarkDude> I want people to be able to meet
[19:03] <MarkDude> without forcing folks to do awkward meeting games
[19:03] <akk> I do remember seeing it in the rsvp form, just not on the nametags. Maybe I just don't remember.
[19:03] <sn9> jledbetter: i did not see such a shirt; i would have noticed one
[19:03] <pleia2> sn9: coexist for operating systems, lots of OS logos
[19:03] <sn9> akk: it was bigger than the name on the nametags
[19:04] <akk> MarkDude: Yes, since most of us are shy introverted geeks and not good at things like introductions. :)
[19:04] <sn9> pleia2: oh
[19:04] <akk> Reading nametags is much easier.
[19:04] <jledbetter> akk, +1
[19:04] <sn9> i thought that meant coexist like the bumper sticker
[19:04]  * MarkDude will see about making nametags for Vasona
[19:04] <jledbetter> I saw a pic on pleia2's flickr stream
[19:05] <MarkDude> If I can get battery - I have 120v inverter
[19:05] <MarkDude> To have a printer
[19:05] <MarkDude> Since RSVP will only work for some
[19:05] <pleia2> MarkDude: markers are fine :)
[19:05] <MarkDude> If that is too much
[19:05] <MarkDude> lol
[19:05] <MarkDude> Beat me to it
[19:05] <akk> Even without a printer, markers and a sign "please put your IRC nick too" works.
[19:05] <jledbetter> pleia2, Marker on forehead? Works for me
[19:05] <pleia2> printing any is too much work, even people who rsvp
[19:06]  * MarkDude wants Tuxwing the Penguin on my nametag
[19:06] <akk> Though printing some ahead of time helps make the RSVP people look cooler and more together. :)
[19:06] <pleia2> hehe
[19:06] <MarkDude> Good point akk
[19:06] <akk> "RSVP or you'll have to wear a hand-written badge and everybody will know you're a flake" :)
[19:06] <jledbetter> lol
[19:07] <MarkDude> Sorry you cant make it to the next one akk
[19:07] <MarkDude> And it will be done by MarkDude in his horrible handwriting
[19:07] <akk> oh, it did end up being the 14th? darn!
[19:07] <MarkDude> Yep
[19:07] <MarkDude> The earlier one would not work for me
[19:07] <pleia2> 16th
[19:07] <akk> right, 16th
[19:08] <MarkDude> Will you be at the *nix picnic?
[19:08] <akk> maybe -- when is it?
[19:08] <pleia2> august 27th
[19:09] <akk> argh, I think that's another week I won't be here
[19:10] <akk> (we're on call helping with a family medical problem -- not sure of the schedule yet but every 3 weeks is what we've been told so far)
[19:27] <pleia2> geeknic pictures http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/sets/72157626874010053/
[19:27]  * pleia2 didn't take many
[19:38] <jledbetter> pleia2, More than I did. Now to tag everyone lolz
[19:40] <pleia2> I wanted to finish the events part of the approval app today, but the ubuntu wiki is unusable :(
[19:40] <pleia2> it sometimes loads pages, haven't been able to save and edit in over 2 hours
[19:40] <sn9> was jledbetter the one who completely lost it at eps?
[19:41] <pleia2> I've never seen her completely lose it with anyone :P
[19:41] <pleia2> so I doubt it
[19:41] <pleia2> jledbetter is a nice, friendly person!
[19:42]  * pleia2 off to clean her office
[19:46] <sn9> i'd need to see more pics to remember for sure
[19:47] <sn9> it was well after you left, btw
[20:00] <MarkDude> Nope- that was Sara
[20:00] <MarkDude> She was not stoked at all
[20:00] <MarkDude> Sumthin happened with him - sara and her BF Colin
[20:30] <sn9> oh, right
[20:31] <sn9> classic geekclash
[20:32] <MarkDude> Yes, well Colin is like head of security
[20:32] <MarkDude> Because if we had any hassles, not to sterotype geeks
[20:33] <MarkDude> But minus Norm, us as a group would be hard pressed to deal with a drunken group nearby
[22:40]  * BrightAmbition likes the name Colin
[22:40] <BrightAmbition> Sorry, he just has a nice name


[09:49] <seand> hi guys i need help with ubuntu
[09:49] <seand> i have installed everyupdate and i am trying to load a DVD with data on it
[09:50] <seand> i have spent all morning and have no clue what to download to view the files????
[09:50] <seand> can anyone assist me
[09:53] <seand> anyone
[10:23] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: we need to add to topic that this is not a support channel
[12:05] <cohen> Hi. Ive installed gammu and gammu-smsd. ttyUSB0 keeps changin to ttyUSB1. I have written Udev rules but all invain. is there a udev software for USB persitence?
[15:45] <mjchopperboy> Hey
[15:45] <mjchopperboy> Saw this link in Ubuntu install twitter widget
[15:46] <mjchopperboy> exit
[18:23] <Lordzed> hello
[18:23] <Lordzed> anyone here ?
[18:23] <Lordzed> i have a problem


[06:23] <Kilos> morning all
[06:28] <Vince-0> Hi
[06:29] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[06:30] <Vince-0> Aaarg it's way too early for me
[06:30] <Kilos> what happened last night
[06:35] <Vince-0> Hi
[06:36] <Vince-0> oh I said already , lols
[06:36] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:36] <Vince-0> ag its just the rut of the working class
[06:36] <Kilos> everyone missed the meeting last night
[06:37] <Kilos> the chair fell over looks like
[06:38] <Squirm> morning
[06:39] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:40] <Vince-0> There was a meet? I didn't have a calender reminder
[06:40] <Kilos> postponed till next monday
[06:44] <Vince-0> Shall I make a post to the list?
[06:46] <Kilos> nuvolari, did already
[06:46] <Kilos> read your mail
[06:46] <Kilos> first wake up
[06:48] <Kilos> hi HawkiesZA wb
[06:48] <Kilos> the fly left you overloaded?
[06:48] <HawkiesZA> Hello!
[06:48] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[06:48]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[06:49] <Squirm> Maaz: beermug
[06:49] <Maaz> Squirm: What?
[06:49] <Squirm> Maaz: beer mug
[06:49] <Maaz> Squirm: Huh?
[06:49] <Squirm> Maaz: beer mug please
[06:49] <Maaz> Squirm: Sorry...
[06:49] <Squirm> Maaz: large
[06:49] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Squirm
[06:49] <Squirm> :/
[06:49] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[06:49] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[06:49] <HawkiesZA> sudo make me a beer?
[06:49] <Kilos> Maaz, larger
[06:49] <Maaz> inna bucket for you Kilos
[06:49] <Kilos> hehe
[06:50] <HawkiesZA> large = beer? Did someone mess up the regex? :P
[06:51] <Kilos> large coffee inna beer mug
[06:52] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[06:53] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[06:53] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[06:54] <barrydk> Good morning
[06:54] <Kilos> hi barrydk \
[06:55] <Vince-0> Kilos, haven't got that Email yet - my list subs on digest - can't find where to change it
[06:55] <Kilos> oh my
[06:56] <Kilos> ill answer it and maybe thewn youll see something
[06:57] <HawkiesZA> And yes Kilos, fly left us horribly overloaded. Very rude :P
[06:57]  * HawkiesZA ducks
[06:57] <Kilos> hehe
[06:59] <HawkiesZA> But really I just got horribly sidetracked
[06:59] <Kilos> excuses excuses
[06:59] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[07:00] <Kilos> i go do the sheep thing now
[07:00] <HawkiesZA> he's getting his coffee on
[07:02] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[07:02]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:02] <Squirm> Maaz: large
[07:02] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Squirm
[07:02] <trender> maaz: coke
[07:02] <Maaz> trender: Sorry...
[07:02] <trender> grrr
[07:02] <trender> maaz: water
[07:02] <Maaz> trender: Excuse me?
[07:02] <trender> oi!
[07:02] <HawkiesZA> Maaz: tea
[07:02] <Maaz> HawkiesZA: tea is a brew made from a tea bush from ceylon
[07:03] <HawkiesZA> lol
[07:03] <trender> tea or coffee huh
[07:04] <trender> maaz: tea or coffee
[07:04] <Maaz> trender: What?
[07:04] <trender> maaz: coffee
[07:04] <Maaz> trender: coffee is liquid code
[07:04] <mazal> Morning everyone
[07:04] <trender> yo mazal whatuo
[07:04] <trender> whatup
[07:05] <trender> maaz: hotdog
[07:05] <Maaz> trender: Huh?
[07:05] <trender> maaz: food
[07:05] <Maaz> trender: Excuse me?
[07:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm!
[07:07] <mazal> Good thanx and you trender
[07:07] <mazal> Oom Kilos , jy hier ?
[07:07] <Squirm> Maaz: thanks
[07:07] <Maaz> Squirm: Okay :-)
[07:07] <Kilos> hi mazal
[07:07] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[07:07]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:07] <Squirm> Maaz: large
[07:07] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Squirm
[07:07] <mazal> Hallo oom , ek nodig hulp
[07:07] <Kilos> wat seun
[07:08] <mazal> If I send you an email addy of a new can , can you help him on how to get in here please ?
[07:08] <mazal> guy even
[07:08] <mazal> Ek hol so rond ek kom nie daarby uit nie
[07:08] <Kilos> yes mazal will do
[07:08] <Kilos> is he on ubuntu?
[07:08] <mazal> Dankie oom
[07:09] <mazal> He was on mint , but I suggested him to change to ubuntu
[07:09] <mazal> As ubuntu have stronger community for new okes
[07:09] <Kilos> mint peeps are welcome here too
[07:09] <Kilos> Squirm, uses mint
[07:10] <Squirm> pfft
[07:10] <Squirm> ubuntu = mint
[07:10] <Squirm> mint != ubuntu
[07:10] <mazal> But you guys will help him ne ?
[07:10] <Squirm> mint > Ubuntu
[07:10] <Kilos> ya of course
[07:11] <Kilos> tell him to install xchat
[07:11] <Squirm> I won't
[07:11] <Squirm> he left mint
[07:11] <Squirm> for shame!
[07:11] <Kilos> hehe
[07:11] <Squirm> :P
[07:11] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm!
[07:11] <Squirm> I may have OD'd on coffee
[07:11] <Kilos> you help anyone Squirm
[07:11] <Squirm> ty Maaz
[07:12] <Kilos> mazal, can he use the terminal?
[07:18] <mazal> I asked him to send me his email addy. Then I will give it to you then you can help him get into the community please oom
[07:18] <Kilos> ok mazal
[07:19] <mazal> Baie dankie. Is goeie ou racing buddy van my.   My replacement router only gets here on the 1st of July though.
[12:03] <Kilos> aw
[12:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> your router died?
[12:30] <superfly> and my two servers
[12:31] <superfly> I suspect it was lightning
[12:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh noes :-/
[12:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> you had lightning protection thingys installed?
[12:32] <superfly> no
[12:32] <superfly> didn't think i'd really need that in Cape Town :-P
[12:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[12:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> just curious on the insurance side, i don't have any electrical protection in place either
[12:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> pretty sure my broker would've mentioned
[12:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> but now that i think of it, i should ask her just to be safe
[13:31] <Kilos> hi HecticZA
[13:31] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[13:55] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:55] <Kilos> HecticZA, i see you got it working
[13:56] <Kilos> are you using mint or ubuntu
[14:02] <magespawn> hey Kilos, still this afternoon?
[14:07] <Kilos> yeah magespawn
[14:07] <Kilos> HecticZA, is mazals friend
[14:07] <magespawn> that is cool
[14:07] <Kilos> ya so we got one more
[14:08] <magespawn> need to get some special ubuntu-za glue, to make them stick
[14:08] <Kilos> ya
[14:08] <Kilos> well last 2 stayed seems like
[14:09] <Kilos> very quiet though
[14:09] <Kilos> SilverCode, you winning?
[14:09] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[14:14] <Kilos> oh my , peeps are cery busy
[14:14] <Kilos> very as well
[14:15] <inetpro> Kilos: hi
[14:15] <Kilos> als goed inetpro ?
[14:15] <Kilos> vreemdeling
[14:15] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry for being so scarce
[14:16] <Kilos> i forgive you but magespawn doesnt
[14:16] <Kilos> hehe
[14:16] <inetpro> hmm...
[14:16] <inetpro> I shall have to sort him out later
[14:16] <Kilos> haha
[14:17] <Kilos> you missed last nights meeting so we postponed it till next monday
[14:17] <Kilos> you will be here im sure
[14:17] <inetpro> I was there last night
[14:18] <inetpro> was just half late as usual
[14:18] <HecticZA> Apologies guys. Got busy. Yes Maz referred me and thx for the mail Kilo. Just lucky Kilo :) I have Pepperment 3 loaded on this pc and it already had XChat installed for Pepperment forums. I never even knew about the software. :)
[14:18] <inetpro> 19:30 is tough for a family man
[14:19] <HecticZA> I will probably dump this distro soon and install ubunto on this pc and then I will keep you guys busy :)
[14:19] <Kilos> cool HecticZA we have a mint expert around if you need help
[14:20] <inetpro> HecticZA: s/ubunto/ubuntu/
[14:20] <Kilos> well inetpro when i wanted to change you guys moaned
[14:20] <Kilos> hes brand new inetpro
[14:21] <HecticZA> Oh really that is cool. I'm on Linux for about 2 weeks and are slowly picking things up. I have PM 4 on my Netbook and that will stay there.
[14:21] <inetpro> the syntax 's/ubunto/ubuntu/' means search for ubunto and replace with ubuntu
[14:21] <HecticZA> Ah sorry inetpro. It is a combination of old age and terrible spelling on the keyboard.
[14:21] <inetpro> :-)
[14:22] <Kilos> old age
[14:22] <Kilos> everyone uses that excuse
[14:22] <Kilos> even me
[14:22] <inetpro> ai!
[14:22] <inetpro> anyway
[14:22] <Kilos> oh and goosie
[14:22]  * inetpro wbbl
[14:22] <Kilos> hehe
[14:22] <Kilos> ok
[14:24] <HecticZA> Lol. Okay Old age and Alzheimer"s  ;D
[14:24] <Kilos> age HecticZA ?
[14:24] <Kilos> you a bally too
[14:27] <HecticZA> Lol not thaaaaaaat old, but man I seriously think Alzeimers is in my future. I am 48 currently, going on 49 sometime during the year.
[14:28] <Kilos> ah you young man
[14:28] <Kilos> im 63 in 7 days or so
[14:29] <HecticZA> Oh well then.  Ek waardeer dit.  Ek het al Linux files gedownload en dan ge extract en dan.....  minute van niks en baie domigheid.  Ek speel games online via PS3 en dis altyd die laaities wat mens verneder. :)
[14:37] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:39] <HecticZA> Google ek net vir ubuntu om te download of is hier 'n link erens wat ek click?
[14:40] <Kilos> hmm
[14:40] <Kilos> Maaz, google ubuntu .iso download
[14:40] <Maaz> Kilos: "Download Ubuntu Desktop | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop :: "Download Ubuntu | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download :: "Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (Precise Pangolin) - Ubuntu Releases" http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ :: "Alternative downloads | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads :: "Download Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring
[14:40] <Maaz> Ringtail) - Ubuntu Releases" http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ :: "Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid …
[14:40] <HecticZA> k thx
[14:41] <Kilos> ek gebruik 12.04.2
[14:41] <Kilos> it a lts version
[14:41] <Kilos> 5 years support
[14:41] <Kilos> others are 9 months
[14:41] <HecticZA> Wat is lts?
[14:41] <Kilos> long term support
[14:41] <HecticZA> long term support?
[14:41] <HecticZA> lol
[14:41] <HecticZA> K ek verstaan
[14:42] <Kilos> its also a bit easier than 13.04 for new guys
[14:42] <HecticZA> Okay will have a quick look.
[14:47] <HecticZA> Started the download. Thank you for the help. Does Xchat work from Windows as well?
[14:52] <confluency> HecticZA: I don't know if XChat has a windows version, but it's just an IRC client. There are lots of IRC clients for Windows.
[14:52] <HecticZA> K thx
[14:53] <Kilos> your welcome
[14:53] <Kilos> we are always here
[14:54] <confluency> I would install the latest version of Ubuntu. if you don't like Unity you can easily replace it with a different window manager. It's just a thin layer on top of the whole operating system.
[14:55] <confluency> LTS is good for servers, which you don't want to upgrade too frequently.
[14:55] <Kilos> confluency, 13.04 has too many settings that you need to sort to get things understandable imo
[14:55] <Kilos> for a new guy that is
[14:56] <confluency> Like what?
[14:56] <Kilos> like the workspace switcher aint there
[14:56] <confluency> Is that a Unity thing?
[14:56] <Kilos> and all the eye candy
[14:56] <Kilos> ya
[14:56] <confluency> I wouldn't recommend Unity to new people, period. ;)
[14:57] <Kilos> no man tara tried it and loved it
[14:57] <confluency> To each his own. ;)
[14:57] <Kilos> and all she knew was windows
[14:57] <Kilos> hehe
[14:57] <tonberryE352> I wouldn't reccomend Unity.
[14:57] <Kilos> maybe ive just got used to it by now
[14:58] <confluency> HecticZA: you may be perfectly happy running an older version, but if you find yourself jumping through hoops to install backported new stuff from PPAs or from source consider just upgrading.
[14:59] <confluency> That's my main problem with running an old version. It's all fun and games until you want a specific new version of some app because you need a feature or a bugfix.
[15:00] <confluency> And then you discover that it's been built/backported for the newest three versions or so, and not yours.
[15:00] <confluency> (Speaking of which, I should probably upgrade to Raring. Maybe today. ;) )
[15:01] <Kilos> hehe
[15:02] <Kilos> 12.04 is running very well here on unity and kde
[15:02] <Kilos> very stable
[15:10] <HecticZA> Hmm okay. Now I'm not sure. I am busy downloading the LTS version, but I will download the latest version as well. Currently this pc has Xp and Peppermint 3 on. Whatever goes on next will be the only OS on here. This is basically a media  pc that provides access to th erest of the house and my PS3. At the moment I use it to play around with Linux. My other Win 7 needs to be be reinstalled, so I might dual boot with some Linux flavour there as well.
[15:11] <magespawn> there is a windows version of xchat
[15:12] <HecticZA> I share 1 LCD screen with 2 pc's via a MVK switch. Had some issues with Peppermint 3 ito low screen resolutions, due to the MVK switch. I assume I will have the same issues with ubuntu as well?
[15:13] <HecticZA> Thx megaspawn. I'm busy downloading. It is just for in case something goes wrong when I reload this pc with a new ubuntu version.
[15:14] <magespawn> also try using the tab button to complete nicks/names that way the spelling is always right
[15:15] <Kilos> type first 3 or 4 letters and hit tab
[15:15] <magespawn> i have never used a keyboard switch with ubuntu, so no idea on that one
[15:15] <magespawn> KVM switch?
[15:23] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[15:26] <nlsthzn> Good evening uncle Kilos
[15:37] <HecticZA> @ magespawn - KVM switch = Keyboard Video Mouse. I have a mouse, keyboard and screen plugged into the switch and I can connect 4 pc's to it.
[15:39] <HecticZA> I'm about to log off here. Does it save my nick or do I have to do something? Can I logon from my Netbook with the same details?
[15:39] <Kilos> you actually gotta register your nick
[15:39] <Kilos> if you dont want it stolen
[15:40] <HecticZA> Can you tell me what I must do?
[15:40] <Kilos> type in here  /msg nickserv register
[15:40] <Kilos> whew i forgot
[15:40] <Kilos> it should give info if you do that
[15:41] <Kilos>   /msg nickserv register HecticZA
[15:41] <Kilos> you should get options
[15:41] <Kilos> have to enter email addy and password somewherer
[15:42] <HecticZA> Okay it gives me error message regarding the psswd and addy. Will try to figure it out. tHx
[15:43] <Kilos> np
[15:44] <HecticZA> Thx Kilos. Sorted
[15:44] <Kilos> oh they send you a special password via mail
[15:44] <Kilos> cool
[15:46] <nlsthzn> HecticZA:now you can set your fave IRC client to log you in automatically using your nick and password ;)
[15:47]  * nlsthzn will flounder around here a little bit later again ...
[15:48] <HecticZA> Okay it it is verified. Chat tomorrow or maybe a bit later. Cheers :)
[15:49] <Kilos> ok
[15:49] <Kilos> ai!
[15:52] <magespawn> nice to have new people
[15:57] <Kilos> yeah
[16:05] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:24] <magespawn> later all home time for me
[16:25] <Kilos> k magespawn
[16:25] <Kilos> later
[17:30] <Kilos> hi smile4ever
[17:47] <inetpro> good evening
[17:47] <inetpro> and hello Kilos
[17:47] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[17:48] <inetpro> hoe gaan dinge vanaand hier
[17:48] <Kilos> stil man
[17:48]  * inetpro kry al weer koue vingers hierdie tyd van die jaar
[17:49] <inetpro> moet eendag 'n verhitte muisblad kry
[17:49] <inetpro> of wat noem jy die ding in Afr?
[17:50] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[17:50]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[17:50] <Kilos> lol
[17:50] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[17:50] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[17:51] <inetpro> Kilos: of dalk moet ek maar net die vingers bietjie laat werk
[17:51] <inetpro> soos lemoene skil
[17:51] <Kilos> haha
[17:51] <inetpro> ons lemoene is lekker hierdie jaar
[17:53] <inetpro> moet eintlik nog bome plant as hulle so lekker is
[17:53] <nlsthzn> alo Kilos, inetpro... cold enough for ya? :p
[17:53] <Kilos> ya nlsthzn very cold
[17:54] <inetpro> hi nlsthzn
[17:54] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[17:54] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[17:54] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[17:54] <nlsthzn> Maaz:tea please
[17:54] <Maaz> As soon as the kettle boils nlsthzn I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already
[17:54] <Kilos> vrugte bome is altyd goeie bome om te plant
[18:02] <nlsthzn> reading mailing lists can be a lot of fun... so many opinions and different attitudes and stuff...
[18:09] <nlsthzn> it would seem that with Mir all the other *buntus will be coming to an end...
[18:10] <Kilos> huh
[18:11] <nlsthzn> bye bye xubuntu, kubuntu etc...
[18:11] <Kilos> oh my
[18:13] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:13] <nlsthzn> the amount of spite and anger in the FLOSS community can be crazy sometimes... many of the mailing lists are better than Soap Opera;s :p
[18:13] <nlsthzn> good night uncle Kilos:
[18:23] <Vince-0> nlsthzn: indeed! I've been following the drama for some time
[18:25] <nlsthzn> Vince-0: I am reading the latest debate on the ubuntu-dev mailing list... and the sad thing is even if everyone dropped their ego's there still isn't a workable solution
[18:25] <Vince-0> http://fossforce.com/2013/06/what-makes-a-community-distro/
[18:25] <Vince-0> well, people who are actively involved are passionate so there will be some tempers flaring
[18:26] <nlsthzn> well, one solution would be to drop mir and use wayland... the easiest one IMO
[18:27] <Vince-0> ha! but Canonical will have none of that
[18:31] <nlsthzn> so it seems
[18:31] <nlsthzn> and I don't understand the technical side to know how much merit each sides argument has :/
[18:32] <smile4ever> Night! :)
[19:04] <nlsthzn> http://mechoslav.wordpress.com/2013/06/18/numix-utouch-is-now-desktop-ready-icon-theme/
[19:04] <nlsthzn> pretty
[21:28] <Squirm> lo Trixar_za
[21:28] <Squirm> Maaz: tell Kilos I was close
[21:28] <Maaz> Squirm: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[21:29] <Trixar_za> lo Squirm
[21:29] <Trixar_za> :P


[23:23] <jrib> TheFiller: what does this command return: gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[23:23]  * kandjar feels stupid now :)
[23:23] <sirMajid> mouser-: yeah about a week and half
[23:23] <kandjar> soundray: thanks a lot!!!
[23:23] <ikonia> Anza: probably a problem with the addon then, as yahoo mail only supports paid pop3 support, which you don't seem to be using
[23:23] <soundray> kandjar: it's strange that xauth wasn't installed -- the openssh-server package depends on it
[23:23] <sirMajid> mouser-: but my friends installed it at the same time but they have it working fine.
[23:23] <Guest39263> f|uke, is very different from the previous try, i'll try it: but is strange that a diffused distro like ubu gve this kind of prob
[23:23] <kandjar> soundray: wow the connection is REALLY slow :):):):)
[23:24] <Guest39263> f|uke, thx
[23:24] <soundray> kandjar: remind me, is your server version 8.04?
[23:24] <kandjar> just opening a text ed (emacs) it really slow :) it's maybe just the startup point :)
[23:24] <f|uke> Guest, I used that with success. Good luck
[23:24] <kandjar> soundray: yeah
[23:24] <Guest39263> i hope too
[23:24] <kandjar> soundray: it is
[23:24] <Guest39263> thx
[23:24] <a1> wen she move that thing
[23:24] <cs_student> anyone here use the wusb54GC NIC on Hardy?
[23:25] <Anza> ikonia, no, never paid anything for any email account, but it was working well all along till today, so, I just wonder if somehow I broke something LOL, I mean the configuration of something...
[23:25] <soundray> kandjar: try with ssh -XC (enables compression)
[23:25] <ikonia> Anza: probably the addon by the sounds of it
[23:25] <TheFiller> jrib: it returns true
[23:25] <visik7> anyone has flash 10 installed ? do you got a strange right click behavior ?
[23:25] <jrib> TheFiller: do you have any icons on your desktop?
[23:26] <TheFiller> jrib: yes, plenty
[23:26] <sirMajid> hasn't anybody had a problem like mine?
[23:26] <Guest90532> hi
[23:26] <sirMajid> no one?
[23:26] <cs_student> I'm wondering if I should use the default rtx200 drivers given by default in hardy
[23:26] <Guest90532> i have a challenge with ubuntu 8.10 firefox
[23:26] <sirMajid> !Xorg
[23:27] <ikonia> sirMajid: saying "no-one" is pointless, if someone didn't see the question "no-one" doesn't explain it, if no one responded then no-one had that problem and saying "no-one" won't make someone have the problem
[23:27] <jrib> TheFiller: you made sure the icon is not *under* another icon?  If your desktop is full, that may happen
[23:27] <Guest90532> when i go on the bbc iplayer i di not have any sound
[23:27] <Kr0ntab> !8.10 | Guest90532
[23:27] <Guest90532> anybody have the same problem??
[23:27] <visik7> Guest90532: url ?
[23:27] <f|uke> October 30th.. so close
[23:28] <Guest90532> should i paste it in the bin
[23:28] <f|uke> I wonder if they're working madly on bug squashing
[23:28] <Kr0ntab> f|uke: :-)  yup.  gonna be great.
[23:28] <visik7> Guest90532: give me the url
[23:28] <kandjar> soundray: thanks, seems fas
[23:28] <kandjar> ter
[23:28] <Guest90532> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00f85p2/Click_18102008/
[23:28] <Kr0ntab> 79 packages this morning...
[23:28] <sirMajid> ikonia: I'm not sure ikonia is a robot or human
[23:28] <ikonia> sirMajid: I'm a human
[23:28] <f|uke> wow.
[23:29] <jabagawee> ikonia, that proved like... nothing :P
[23:29] <visik7> Guest90532: ops I can't test I'm not in uk
[23:29] <sirMajid> ikonia: ok then you have a lot of free time criticizing my words
[23:29] <zigzags> !pastebin
[23:29] <ikonia> sirMajid: no, I'm advising you how to get a response by better phrasing your question
[23:29] <Guest90532> well it is a web browser player anyway??
[23:30] <sirMajid> ikonia: well, I thought maybe someone pays attention that's all
[23:30] <sirMajid> ikonia: as you did
[23:30] <ikonia> sirMajid: they are paying attention
[23:30] <TheFiller> jrib: yes, and I just found out that it works if the mount point is either in /media or in the home folder. It does not work anywhere else
[23:30] <ikonia> sirMajid: but as I said saying "no-one" doesn't help get a response
[23:30] <sirMajid> ikonia: ok
[23:30] <visik7> Guest90532: anyway as reported on google iplayer is not available for linux
[23:30] <visik7> Guest90532: http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page
[23:31] <ikonia> visik7: google or bbc iplayer
[23:31] <Guest39263> f|uke, did the newest ubuntu release add some additional support to this internet connection share?
[23:31] <visik7> ikonia: come on...
[23:31] <ikonia> visik7: what do you mean, come on ?
[23:31] <ikonia> visik7: I'm asking which one
[23:31] <ikonia> visik7: I miss-read your statment
[23:31] <Craihhgney> what do i do with this file? VMware-Player-2.5.0-118166.i386.bundle
[23:32] <visik7> reported on google = if you do a search on google
[23:32] <ikonia> visik7: ye, I miss-read
[23:32] <ikonia> yes
[23:32] <Guest90532> well the strangest thing is that when i was with 8.04 it was working
[23:32] <visik7> Craihhgney: chmod +x  VMware-Player-2.5.0-118166.i386.bundle ./ VMware-Player-2.5.0-118166.i386.bundle
[23:32] <ikonia> Guest90532: you can access iplayer through tools like mencoder with the right urls
[23:32] <visik7> Guest90532: dunno sorry
[23:33] <Craihhgney> visik7: same line
[23:33] <Craihhgney> ?
[23:33] <ERROR_SUCCESS> is there a program to create flow charts in linux?
[23:33] <visik7> Craihhgney: no
[23:33] <LjL> ERROR_SUCCESS: open a terminal and type "apt-cache search flow chart"
[23:33] <Craihhgney> ok
[23:34] <LjL> ERROR_SUCCESS: although, i suggest you try out "dia" too, which is not mentioned there
 ty
[23:34] <Kr0ntab> ERROR_SUCCESS: a quick search also turned up kflowchart
[23:34] <Craihhgney> visik7:  that didnt do anythinh
[23:34] <Craihhgney> thing
[23:34] <Kr0ntab> :-)
[23:35] <milesonwheelz> Anyone know how I can get my wireless to work on my macbook with ubuntu linux installed?
[23:35] <visik7> Craihhgney: ?
 ty too
[23:35] <Craihhgney> visik7:  that didnt do anything.
[23:35] <Starks> hooray for insipid!
[23:35] <Starks> os[Linux 2.6.27-7-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "intrepid" 8.10] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2050  @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 1000.3MB, 42.1% free] disk[Total: 142.5GB, 90.9% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: Bluetooth SCO - BT Headset]
[23:35] <visik7> Craihhgney: something must happen an error or something
[23:35] <Kr0ntab> hehe   insipid?
[23:36] <ikonia> Starks: please stop
[23:36] <ikonia> Starks: we don't need to see what your running
[23:36] <jken146> lol
[23:36] <LjL> !ot | starks
[23:36] <Craihhgney> bash: ./: is a directory
[23:36] <visik7> Craihhgney: sorry without the space
[23:36] <Craihhgney> thats what it output
[23:37] <visik7> Craihhgney: without the space
[23:37] <Craihhgney> ok
[23:38] <visik7> does it works ?
[23:39] <iamawake> if i background a process in one ssh session can i foreground said process in a second ssh session?
[23:39] <Guest90532> by the way i am watching bbc iplyer right now, but i still not have sound
[23:39] <Guest90532> with firefox
[23:39] <Guest39263> f|uke,sorry, did you know if the 8.10 release add some kind of setup for the internet connection share? or better to try the link you posted?
[23:39] <kandjar> I have another question, I have ubuntu gutsy installed on my laptop, it was a real pain to setup the wifi network... I'm still encountering issue with the hybernate mode (it sometimes crashes / or reboot on wake up)
[23:40] <kandjar> I'd like to move to hardy... however I don't want to reencounter the painful network setup... do you know if it improved?
[23:40] <MrD1> hi does any one know were the rtl8187.ko file would be in the lib/ some thing i think i would like to black list it thanks in advance
[23:41] <kandjar> setup network setup include: wpa wifi mode
[23:41] <csilk> kandjar, you can always wait a week or so and upgrade to Intrepid
[23:41] <visik7> kandjar: try a live cd
[23:41] <beilabs> Can anyone recommend a nice graphical user interface to interact with a git repository?
[23:41] <kandjar> csilk: sure i m willing to wait a week :) but will it get better?
[23:41] <csilk> visik7,  live cd's dont tell you too much about hardware compatibilty, for example, my wifi card doesnt work on the live cd but does when you install to disk
[23:42] <csilk> kandjar, of course it will
[23:42] <MrD1> does any one know where i need to go to black list my rtl8187.ko file
[23:42] <DigitalFiz> what printer is gonna have more support in ubuntu?
[23:42] <kandjar> same, I tried live cd and wifi/blutooth didnt work
[23:42] <DavidCanarias> After copying a DVD film to file, when I try to open pops us this error: An error occurred. Could not open location, you might not have permission to open the file. Does anyone know why this is happening???
[23:42] <visik7> csilk: if you can setup it from installed you can do it also from the live cd
[23:42] <Sylphid|work> soundray, i was able to recover my partitions with the tools you suggested however im having problems reinstalling grub in the appropriate place ..... find /boot/grub/stage1 gives an Error 15: File not found
[23:42] <linkmaster03> how do I edit GNOME screen rotation from terminal?
[23:43] <visik7> linkmaster03: xrandr
[23:43] <csilk> visik7, of course you can, from the live cd i can compile the source etc etc butf rom disk ubuntu does it automatically, for some reason the live cd doesnt see it as a supported card
[23:43] <kandjar> csilk: I know ubuntu will obviously get better, but I m wondering if they made a lot of changes on the wifi part of it
[23:43] <soundray> Sylphid|work: /dev/sda5 is your root partition, correct?
[23:43] <visik7> csilk: ubuntu doesn't compile it automatically
[23:43] <csilk> kandjar,  yes since gutsy wiki is  better supported
[23:43] <DavidCanarias> Does anyone know why I can copy some DVD's successfully and others I can't. Are some more protected than others
[23:44] <csilk> visik7,  ok, skip the obvious logical flaw in what I just said and I'm sure you can still understand what I mean
[23:44] <visik7> csilk: btw what's the wifi chipset ?
[23:44] <kandjar> side funny note: I have a bluetooth microsoft mouse which work perfectly fine under linux, but I can't get it to work under winxp :):):):)
[23:44] <Sylphid|work> soundray, /dev/sda6
[23:44] <Sylphid|work> soundray, it is currently mounted to /boot
[23:44] <csilk> visik7,  atheros
[23:44] <Kr0ntab> DavidCanarias: What application are you using to view them?
[23:44] <soundray> Sylphid|work: do you have a directory /boot/boot/grub ?
[23:44] <visik7> never had problems with atheros cards quite strange
[23:45] <kandjar> csilk: what's the best way to move to intrepid? install on top of gutsy, or reinstall from scratch?
[23:45] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi all of a sudden my arrow keys do not work anymore on my hp tx1000 laptop, they are physically ok as they work in windows
[23:45] <Redhammer_the_Ol> any ideas
[23:45] <csilk> visik7,  not have I other that in the live cd
[23:45] <Sylphid|work> soundray, no  only /boot/grub
[23:45] <csilk> kandjar,  from gutsy I would (personally) go for a clean install from disk
[23:45] <csilk> **nor
[23:46] <kandjar> csilk: ok
[23:46] <soundray> Sylphid|work: are you on the live system at the moment?
[23:46] <DavidCanarias> KrOntab: To be honest I don't know. Someone helped me install mediubuntu -keyring and libdvdcss2??? and on the DVD I just click to copy? Any ideas?
[23:46] <Sylphid|work> soundray, ok i found it omitting /boot ....
[23:46] <csilk> kandjar,  it sure beats when I used to use slackware, had to compile kernal header, install kernal headers then do the same with the madwifi driver ;)
[23:46] <Sylphid|work> soundray, yes....
[23:46] <Kr0ntab> DavidCanarias: oh so you're trying to copy DVD's...
[23:46] <soundray> Sylphid|work: what did you find?
[23:46] <kandjar> csilk: :)
[23:46] <Sylphid|work> soundray, (hd0,5)
[23:47] <Sylphid|work> soundray, i think i understand from here
[23:47] <Cbaonline> hi everyone
[23:47] <kandjar> csilk: I used to use slackware too :), then move to redhat, then suse, then mandrake, then ubuntu :)
[23:47] <Cbaonline> someone wanna talk ?
[23:47] <csilk> lol
[23:47] <DavidCanarias> KrOntab: Yes I just want to copy but have one drive so put it in the computer first and then just copy to DVD
[23:47] <f|uke> You can make flow charts in openoffice
[23:47] <soundray> Sylphid|work: I don't... but as long as you're happy, I am, too :)
[23:47] <Kr0ntab> DavidCanarias: success is pretty subjective... but I can recomend two apps...  k9copy  and dvd95
[23:47] <visik7> anyone has flash 10 installed ? do you got a strange right click behavior ?
[23:47] <Kr0ntab> the latter is what I've been using lately... and it's just very easy to use..
[23:48] <kandjar> csilk: i forgot fedora before ubuntu :)
[23:48] <Sylphid|work> soundray, can you explain why /boot is unneeded .... does it automatically scan all mount points?
[23:48] <DavidCanarias> KrOntab: Thks very much, I am interested, but how can I find out how to do the copying?
[23:48] <soundray> Sylphid|work: I don't think it does, and I don't understand what you're up to, so I honestly can't comment.
[23:49] <Kr0ntab> DavidCanarias: I don't have specific links... but if you want to just start playing with these applications... they're available in the repositories...
[23:49] <f|uke> visik7, no, seems normal. small menu for "about" and "settings"
[23:49] <Kr0ntab> DavidCanarias: and a quick search for the project home pages on google will serve you well...
[23:49] <ryuho> hey, where should i extract "eclipse" folder? I think it's the whole program.. is it a good idea to put it in ~/ ?
[23:50] <visik7> f|uke: I got the firefox menu and the flash menu one over the other
[23:50] <jrib> DavidCanarias: did you ever figure out dvdbackup?
[23:50] <csilk> ryan8403,  i did it in /home/username
[23:50] <Sylphid|work> soundray, one last question .... after recovering my partitions all the flags were lost.... since my boot partition is a logical partition should the boot flag be on the extended partition or the logical partition...or perhaps both
[23:50] <DavidCanarias> KrOntab: I will give it a try, but I have had so many suggestions I can't make any work.
[23:50] <soundray> ryuho: you shouldn't extract eclipse at all -- install it through the package manager instead
[23:50] <soundray> !software > ryuho
[23:50] <csilk> soundray,  the package manager has an old version
[23:50] <Kr0ntab> DavidCanarias: personally speaking... I use dvd95 to rip the DVD's to ISO's... and then just right click on the newly created ISO... and burn it via nautilus.
[23:50] <csilk> he probably wants the latest
[23:50] <DavidCanarias> jrib: Hi again. No I couldn't get anywhere. I got to a certain point and got lost when it came to giving a location and file name
[23:51] <Falcons_roost> Anyone know good laptop to buy @ 700 to 800 so so price range
[23:51] <csilk> Falcons_roost, dell 1525
[23:51] <jrib> DavidCanarias: but it's just one command, it copies it to your current worknig directory
[23:51] <Kr0ntab> DavidCanarias: feel free to pm me as this question isn't necessarily ubuntu specific.
[23:51] <soundray> Sylphid|work: I never bother with boot flags. Grub ignores them, as far as I know. They are only relevant with DOS MBRs.
[23:51] <DavidCanarias> KrOntab: With the one I have installed I don't need to rip, it copies automatically to an iso and I just copy to disc. It seems some DVD's won't open after copying.
[23:51] <ryuho>  soundray, ubuntu's repo is outdated
[23:51] <Falcons_roost> ok
[23:52] <soundray> ryuho: have you checked backports as well?
[23:52] <Sylphid|work> soundray, ahh fair enough thanks for the help.. your a life saver
[23:52] <ryuho> they only have 3.2 in repo, but the software it's self is already 3.4
[23:52] <Sylphid|work> soundray, or at least a data saver
[23:52] <ryuho> soundray,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=532800
[23:52] <kandjar> i have a security question,
[23:52] <DavidCanarias> jrib: Do you use dvd backup?
[23:52] <jrib> DavidCanarias: yes
[23:53] <vincenzo> Hi, is there any way to automatically download all deb files that are installed on a given system?
[23:53] <soundray> Sylphid|work: I'm glad you think I've helped you ;)
[23:53] <kandjar> while booting, it's possible to start with "init 3" which allow anyone with a physical access to the box to reset the root pwd and do whatever they want with it
[23:53] <kandjar> anyway to prevent that?
[23:53] <genii> vincenzo: PErhaps not automatically. But they are all in /var/cache/apt/archives  you can just copy them wherever
[23:53] <kandjar> without putting a system pwd?
[23:53] <DavidCanarias> Can you explain to me pass by pass what to do if you have time?
[23:53] <DavidCanarias> Maybe pm?
[23:54] <jrib> kandjar: why?  anyone with physical access can do whatever they want anyway
[23:54] <genii> kandjar: init levels 2,3,4 and 5 are identical on ubuntu system
[23:54] <visik7> kandjar: remove the entry from the boot and put a password in the grub edit mode
[23:54] <jrib> DavidCanarias: there's nothing to explain.  I just put my dvd in the drive and run 'dvdbackup -M -v'.  That's all
[23:54] <coeus> hey, I'm having problem with playing mp3s on ubuntu. I am able to play other media where the audio plays, but for some reason, mp3s are not playing back.
[23:55] <csilk> coeus,  re-install the codec
[23:55] <djungelkraem> anyone know if theres a repo with newer versions of fglrx (ati drivers)
[23:55] <soundray> kandjar: ubuntu uses upstart instead of the old style SysV init levels. Yes, you can boot an Ubuntu machine to a root shell without a password by selecting Recovery mode at the grub menu. I second jrib's comment...
[23:55] <DavidCanarias> jrib: Ok I put the DVD in as you say and then open Terminal and type in    dvdbackup -M -v
[23:55] <jrib> DavidCanarias: exactly
[23:56] <DavidCanarias> jrib: then I will try and tell you what happens OK
[23:56] <jrib> DavidCanarias: sure
[23:56] <csilk> djungelkraem,  the intrepid repo has newer versions
[23:56] <coeus> csilk? Which one do I reinstall? gstreamer? ubuntu restricted extras?
[23:56] <djungelkraem> csilk: you run those drivers?
[23:56] <Sylphid|work> soundray, just wanted to let you know that my system is back up and operational as normal thanks again for the help
[23:57] <kandjar> jrib, soundray: I agree anyone with a physical access will be able to access it, it doesnt mean you should give him the key
[23:57] <csilk> djungelkraem,  no, I'm useing the fglrx-xorg ones for ATI from the hardy update repo
[23:57] <csilk> *using
[23:57] <Sylphid|work> soundray, from what i gather it seems that growing my extended partition never succeeded with gparted and it actually deleted all of my logicals
[23:57] <jrib> kandjar: encrypt your drive if you actually want to do anything effective.  Setting a bios password may slow someone down for a minute too I guess
[23:57] <csilk> djungelkraem, probably the same ones your using
[23:58] <kandjar> jrib: I agree with the systemn pwd, but encrypted a sever without monitor attached to it, is quite painful to boot
[23:58] <djungelkraem> csilk: i think so
[23:58] <BitWise> ne1 know if theres a app like papers for linux? http://mekentosj.com/papers/
[23:58] <soundray> Sylphid|work: did you run e2fsck on the logical partitions after recovering the partition table?
[23:58] <kandjar> jrib I thought about it actually
[23:58] <csilk> djungelkraem,  why do you want newer ones?
[23:58] <kandjar> and tried
[23:58] <jrib> kandjar: I'm just giving you the facts about what you are asking
[23:58] <djungelkraem> csilk: i heard from someone that the newer versions solved much of X1950Pros problems
[23:58] <vincenzo> genii: well, I periodically run apt-get clean :-)
[23:58] <coeus> csilk, what codec do I need to reinstall? The gstreamer package?
[23:58] <kandjar> jrib: I knwo :) I m just pointing out that I tried and it's not practical for a server box
[23:59] <csilk> djungelkraem,  oh rite, i wouldnt know as I'm using a 2400 HD
[23:59] <ronzilla> ok im back on my laptop, its running winXP.  its 1.7 Ghz pentium M.  2 gigs of RAM and has an intel 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics controller....will all that work OK with ubuntu? Dual screen as well?
[23:59] <csilk> coeus, Whichever one came with the mp3 codec?
[23:59] <Sylphid|work> soundray, no i didnt ...all of the partition changes were done from a live image not from the hard drive so it didnt seem necessary
[23:59] <DavidCanarias> jrib, no luck, this is what happened :  bash : -v: command not found
[23:59] <djungelkraem> csilk: ok.. well im seriously afraid of installing any other drivers since its #!&!! my gnome login/ totally made the computer go nuts
[23:59] <jrib> DavidCanarias: paste what you typed exactly