[08:03] <Ineedhelp> Listen, I know that I need to edit the line. What do I put between quiet and splash --
[08:04] <Ririshi> Fudge: okay.
[08:05] <Fudge> Ineedhelp  I dont know or the file you are talking about editting. Did you get as far as the grub menu and then  black screen after that?
[08:06] <MonkWitDaFunk> ineedhelp cannot see the bios post message and thinks the gpu is out of use
[08:07] <Ineedhelp> Fudge:  I just fixed this problem, In "try ubuntu without installing" there's a line I need to edit. I need to put somthing between quiet and splash. I just don't remember what
[08:07] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  'quiet nomodeset splash' You mean? or you can just use 'nomodeset' and remove the quiet splash
[08:07] <Ineedhelp> Thank you dr_willis
[08:07] <Fudge> Ineedhelp good luck then, think dr_willis has you sorted there
[08:17] <Flynsarmy> I just created a RAID5 array and after rebooting /dev/md0 changed to /dev/md/xbmc:0… is that normal?
[08:39] <knytm4r3> settings?
[08:39] <knytm4r3> nang VPN
[08:45] <memand> anyone who knows if it is possible to make so that when you Alt+Tab it only switches between programs on the active workspace?
[08:47] <dufa> memand: sure, it dose that to me
[08:48] <memand> dufa: weird, not here
[08:48] <dufa> mut i dont remember what settings i have changed
[08:48] <dufa> i'll take a look
[08:49] <dr_willis> memand:  theres various altnertives to alt-tab you can twiddle with in the compiz/ccsm tool.
[08:49] <dufa> you can make it happen in the system settings
[08:49] <dr_willis> and settings for the alt-tabbing.
[08:49] <dufa> open keyboard
[08:49] <memand> dufa: when I do it here it choses between all workspaces ad then drags it to the active workspace. Very annoying :P
[08:49] <here> hello , my ubuntu is so slow
[08:50] <memand> dr_willis dufa : thx :)
[08:50] <dufa> go to the shortcuts
[08:50] <dufa> you need to change the "switch application" to alt+tab
[08:50] <memand> the  ccsm was what I was looking for :)
[08:51] <dufa> well, good luck
[08:52] <memand> thx
[08:52] <dr_willis> thers some nifty 'whatever-tab' alternatives in ccsm also. ;) if you want a totally differnt look
[08:53] <linuxearth> how can i password protect a folder or a zip folder??
[08:54] <jeromest>  Hello , Is there anyone familiar with Banshee ?
[08:54] <dr_willis> !encrypt
[08:54] <dr_willis> that guide may be a little old. askubuntu.com may have better answers
[08:54] <Ineedhelp> How do I run a program as root in ubuntu?
[08:55] <linuxearth> but i just don't want to encrpt the whole directory but only some single and separate files
[08:55] <linuxearth> so is that possible?
[08:55] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  'sudo appname'
[08:55] <dr_willis> you can encrypt files.. yes
[08:56] <linuxearth> can a zip file be password protected?
[08:56] <dr_willis> probrely a dozen ways to do it - depending on how you want to manage them. and  how paranoid you want to be
[08:56] <auronandace> !gksu | Ineedhelp
[08:56] <linuxearth> can a zip file be password protected?
[08:58] <dufa> linuxearth: yes, you can passwd protect zip files
[08:58] <linuxearth> how do i do that?
[08:58] <xiaclo> yes, zip -e will encrypt and prompt for a password
[08:59] <linuxearth> means i have to run like: zip -e <filename>
[08:59] <linuxearth> ??
[08:59] <xiaclo> yes zip -e <filename>.zip <file1> <file2> <file3>
[08:59] <linuxearth> and how can many small files be made into one file in a .zip file with password please let me know that command
[09:00] <dr_willis> that dosent make a lot of sence linuxearth
[09:00] <linuxearth> sense?
[09:00] <xiaclo> I don't think there is a practical limit, although you probably want them in a directory first to make the command easier ... you can zip entire directories as well
[09:00] <xiaclo> the example I posted is to compress 3 files into a single zip, but you can add as many as you want
[09:00] <dr_willis> mergeing a bunch of text files into a single huge text file  linuxearth ? why would you want that
[09:01] <dr_willis> I imagine you should be telling us what you are trying to acomplish.
[09:01] <linuxearth> why i want that is my wish, but only how it could be achieved is the talk right now
[09:02] <linuxearth> dr_willis: man you are confusing me
[09:02] <dr_willis> cat the files into a huge file  if thats what you really want...
[09:02] <dr_willis> how you Undo the mergeing.. is the question linuxearth .
[09:02] <dr_willis> linuxearth:  I think you are confused as to what you really want to do.
[09:02] <linuxearth> xiaclo: how can i concatenate the files
[09:02] <xiaclo> dr_willis: you're confusing me as well.  Multiple files in a single zip is quite a common thing.  It's the point of using zip and other archives
[09:02] <lorddelta> Hate it when that happens...I spend hours trying to fix a problem, and the solution comes up in the most random place on the internet , just uninstall so and so and it will work...X_X
[09:02] <dr_willis> xiaclo:  thatss not what he was asking...
[09:03] <dr_willis> xiaclo:  he wanted them merged befor the zip - from what i read.
[09:03] <linuxearth> dr_willis: you have deviated the topic
[09:03] <dr_willis> or else he dident understand there would be One zip with all the files.
[09:03] <xiaclo> linuxearth: you don't concat the files, you just add multiple files into the one zip
[09:03] <dr_willis> which is why i asked for clarification
[09:04] <lorddelta> linuxearth: drag and drop your files into archive manager?
[09:04] <lorddelta> Should do the trick?
[09:04] <linuxearth> yes
[09:04] <linuxearth> xiaclo: thanks man i try your commands and try to create the password with the command you gave at first
[09:05] <linuxearth> lorddelta: i try man
[09:06] <narutolinux> hello
[09:07] <dr_willis> howdy
[09:07] <narutolinux> is there any way to adjust the notifications, its on the top right, but its actually too low
[09:07] <dr_willis> narutolinux:  its supposed to be down a little bit. Ibelive thats for 'special' notifications to always be at the very top.
[09:07] <memand> dr_willis: Do you know, what they mean by <Primary> when they are talking about keyboard bindings in ccsm?
[09:08] <dr_willis> memand:  i think thats the normal Mouse left click button.
[09:08] <dr_willis> memand:  but i saw that the other day. :) and wasent sure.
[09:08] <memand> dr_willis: oh right, that makes sence :)
[09:08] <dr_willis> Im not in unity/compiz to test. Playing with gnome-shell right now
[09:08] <narutolinux> dr_willis, oh that's weird, on cinnamon it was on the top right, but on xfce4 its lower
[09:09] <memand> dr_willis: I'll tell you in  a sec ;)
[09:09] <lorddelta> Anyways *does happy dance* hibernate works great again! :)
[09:09] <narutolinux> lol
[09:09] <cub> is there a command to list SATA ports on ubuntu?
[09:09] <lorddelta> cub: lshw? maybe?
[09:10] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[09:10] <dr_willis> I need more sata ports.. ;) and a bigger case.. and more hard drives... then i need more sata ports...
[09:12] <lorddelta> cub: my sudo lshw shows up a sata controller that theoretically has 4 ports, but I only have a single physical port. So I wouldn't necessarily trust the hwinfo...
[09:12] <lorddelta> But perhaps I don't know something about IBM pc arch...
[09:12] <cub> yeah
[09:14] <memand> dr_willis: Ok, I officially have no idea what the "<Primary>" button is supposed to be...
[09:15] <memand> I found an article talking about Emacs referring to Ctrl as the Primary modifier... But that's not much help :P
[09:16] <dr_willis> memand:  ;) #compiz may know
[09:16] <dr_willis> be sure to tell us.
[09:17] <cub> is there a command to find out the make of my desktop?
[09:17] <cub> or would i use the same command
[09:17] <cub> nvm
[09:17] <cub> it's the same command
[09:17] <cub> ty :)
[09:18] <dr_willis> Index
[09:18] <dr_willis> » Newbie Corner
[09:18] <dr_willis> » Compiz writes <Primary> modifier instead of <Control>
[09:18] <dr_willis> seems tobe a bug.. :) from what i got on the google-fu
[09:18] <memand> hehe ok thanks :)
[09:20] <dr_willis> aparently its a rather nasty and been around for a long time bug. ;)
[09:21] <imperfec1-> Anyone here using boinc with server>
[09:23] <Ineedhelp> I'm installing an nvidia driver, it says I need to run it as root. How do I do that.
[09:23] <Ineedhelp> ?
[09:24] <Ineedhelp> Hello?
[09:25] <column> Can someone help me. I had windows installed on one hard drive and unbuntu on another. I deleted the umbutu partitions and now i cant boot into windows. First time linux user, be gentle
[09:25] <gvo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia Ineedhelp: try that first.
[09:26] <gvo> win7? column:
[09:27] <column> yes its windows 7. When i try to boot i get error: no such device and a grub rescue prompt
[09:27] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  you have tried the nvidia drivers from the repositories first?
[09:28] <OerHeks> colomn repair your boot with your windows 7 dvd, or seek help in #windows
[09:28] <Ineedhelp> I'm a very new user to ubuntu, please dumb it down a bit :P
[09:28] <gvo> Ineedhelp: Did you visit that web page?
[09:29] <Ineedhelp> Yes
[09:29] <genius> can anyone tell me
[09:29] <column> oerheks the problem is i cant even boot from disk
[09:29] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp: run the 'software-sources' tool -->    software-properties-gtk
[09:29] <genius> command to install dpkg-source on ubuntu
[09:29] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  the last tab - 'addaditional drivers' SHOULD show any extra drivers taht can beinstalled
[09:30] <ole_> oole_oz6oh
[09:30] <ole_> nich
[09:30] <gvo> column: boot from the installation DVD
[09:32] <ole_oz6oh> hello friends. i am lokking for some hints with glade and combine with a little c program
[09:32] <column> gvo: I would if I could but I cannot boot from either of my hard drives or any boot disk
[09:32] <ole_oz6oh> looking
[09:32] <gvo> column: change the boot order in your bios to boot from dvd first.
[09:33] <ole_oz6oh> Is the a special glade channel ?
[09:34] <JoaoSantana> hi all
[09:34] <xgoo> hii jaoSantana
[09:34] <JoaoSantana> i'm a bit stuck with quickly and glade, someone can help me plz?
[09:35] <genius> can anyone tell me the pakage which i need to install for dpkg-source and other utils
[09:35] <ole_oz6oh> Joao hello i have big problems with glade
[09:37] <JoaoSantana> hi ole_oz6oh glade is so awful :(
[09:37] <gvo> glade irc irc.gimp.net #glade3 channel
[09:37] <dufa> JoaoSantana: ask a question, mayba we can help
[09:37] <ole_oz6oh> gvo thanks
[09:38] <gvo> There's a mailing list for glade too: http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/glade-users
[09:38] <ole_oz6oh> joao yes but i will try to work with it  difficult
[09:38] <ole_oz6oh> gvo ok i will try thanks
[09:39] <JoaoSantana> dufa I need to fill three combo boxes with some data wich is passed to user. in glade i can do that, but with quickly it's more difficult.
[09:40] <ole_oz6oh> joao i have made a channel for you go there please
[09:53] <omry> cant update packages on my maverick, I get 404 for some basic repos. for example : http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[09:53] <omry> is maverick discontinued?
[09:53] <radopi> ubuntu 10.10 isn't supported anymore
[09:54] <omry> radopi, so its been killed so hard so I cant even upgrade it?
[09:54] <radopi> i think
[09:54] <omry> I hope you are wrong
[09:54] <omry> this is a reason to abandon an os.
[09:55] <radopi> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/04/10/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-end-of-life-reached-on-april-10-2012/
[09:55] <radopi> you should reinstall
[09:55] <radopi> but you can bachup /home
[09:56] <radopi> and have a look at linux mint
[09:56] <omry> radopi, there is a link there for upgrade
[09:56] <omry> I will try it
[09:56] <radopi> yes
[09:56] <gvo> omry: usually there are alternate repos so you can upgrade
[09:56] <omry> if I am reinstalling, it will be of an OS that will not just delete the repo tree when it no longer support a distro
[09:57] <radopi> try linux mint
[09:57] <omry> I tried multiple
[09:57] <radopi> http://linuxmint.com/
[09:57] <omry> gvo,  radopi - I think I`ll get back to debian.
[09:57] <radopi> that's a good choose
[09:57] <radopi> but have a look at gentoo
[09:57] <radopi> its easy
[09:57] <usr13> omry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[10:00] <Flynsarmy> I created an array with sudo mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 and rebooted. /dev/md0 no longer exists after reboot but /dev/md127 and /dev/md/xbmc:0 do…why is that? I've added ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=1.2 name=xbmc:0 UUID=3dcfe843:c2300a40:75190922:f6caf9c7 to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[10:01] <usr13> omry: What ever you install, create separate partition for /home/
[10:03] <Muhammad_Saad> My PC has a Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01). Which driver performs better for this device? The default free one or the proprietary one?
[10:04] <dr_willis> when somthing goes EOL theres a set time. then the files get moved to an archive server... you have Plenty of time to upgrade befor that happens
[10:05] <Bonez> 12.10 server x64, no gui installed, server boots just fine, no console login prompt. how do i fix it?
[10:06] <omry> okay, the upgrade help page is useless
[10:06] <dr_willis> Bonez:  thats unusual. whats the video card? it could be some quirk with the framebuffer console
[10:06] <omry> why on earth did they delete the old repo tree? are they that low on disk space?
[10:06] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad: How is it working now?
[10:06] <dr_willis> omry:  they move them to a archive server. for ease of maintance from what i gather
[10:07] <Bonez> dr_willis: no idea. didnt have any issues with 12.04, its dell optiplex so i'm guessing its intel
[10:07] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[10:07] <omry> dr_willis,  this appears to be on the archive server:  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[10:07] <omry> or should have been
[10:07] <Muhammad_Saad> Kubuntu 12.10
[10:07] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad: Fully updated?
[10:08] <Muhammad_Saad> Yes
[10:08] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad: Ok.  You're good.
[10:09] <Muhammad_Saad> Does the proprietary driver offer any performance benefit?
[10:09] <dr_willis> Bonez:  you could try some differnt resolitions in the grub configs, or try nomodeset. but ive no idea why a server would need that.
[10:09] <usr13> Muhammad_Saad:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...wl/+bug/994255
[10:09] <dr_willis> Bonez:  or  try the 'text' option that should go to a simple text based console
[10:10] <Bonez> dr_willis, how to add nomodeset to the grub config?
[10:10] <dr_willis> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME main restricted universe multiverse                  stuff gets moved to the 'old-releases'server
[10:10] <dr_willis> Bonez:  hit 'e' at the grub menu. edit the line. thats looks similer to '.... quiet splash .....'   to be ' .... quiet nomodeset splash ...'
[10:11] <dr_willis> or you could just use 'nomodset text'   perhaps..
[10:11] <dr_willis> instead of quiet nomodeset splash
[10:11] <dr_willis> or if you want real verbose text messages/logs   'noquiet nosplash nomodeset text'  ;)
[10:11] <dr_willis> some of these options may be outdated, or redundant these days
[10:12] <penguinman> dr_willis, i think it will default to no quiet assuming the quiet option isn't passed
[10:12] <dr_willis> yea. but i like to be  overkill. ;)
[10:13] <dr_willis> i normally set my defaults to be where stuff shows.
[10:13] <dr_willis> I think theres a 'verbose' option as well that gives a lot of text messages as it boots
[10:13] <Bonez> dr_willis, is there no file i can modify and just reboot?
[10:13] <penguinman> yeah, i remember that
[10:14] <dr_willis> Bonez:  you normally edit /etc/default/grub then rerun update-grub IF you want it permenet
[10:14] <dr_willis> editing grub menu is a ONE TIME for that boot only  option.
[10:14] <penguinman> good for testing
[10:14] <dr_willis> You said you couldent see the screen? or did i missread
[10:14] <dr_willis> if you can ssh in. ;) you could edit the /etc/default/grub
[10:15] <Bonez> Nope, cant login on console, ssh is all i got at this point
[10:15] <dr_willis> ssh can do it then. ;)
[10:16] <dr_willis> if editing the default/grub you may want to do some other changes...
[10:16] <penguinman> ok, I officially need a new project, I am bored out of my mind these days
[10:16] <dr_willis> # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[10:16] <dr_willis> GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[10:16] <dr_willis> puts grub in a nice failsafe text menu mode
[10:16] <Bonez> try just that one for now?
[10:20] <dr_willis> id just go all out and use 'nomodeset noquiet nosplash text verbose'  ;P
[10:20] <dr_willis> and uncommend the GRUB_terminbal line..
[10:20] <dr_willis> Uncomment the beep item at the end.. Its cool ;P
[10:21] <penguinman> oh god, that hurts my ears just thinking about it....
[10:21] <dr_willis> Star Wars Imperial Death March:
[10:21] <dr_willis> GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 4 440 4 440 4 349 3 523 1 440 4 349 3 523 1 440 8 659 4 659 4 659 4 698 3 523 1 415 4 349 3 523 1 440 8"
[10:21] <dr_willis> ;P
[10:21] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <Bonez> dr_willis, that worked, partaily, i could see the boot, but screen went black when the login prompt should of come up
[10:22] <dr_willis> Bonez:  weird, I dont use server a lot.. i thought all that would disable the framebuffer..
[10:22] <penguinman> Bonez, try a ctrl-alt-f1 and see if you can get a tty
[10:22] <dr_willis> i was about to suggest that.. ;P
[10:23] <usr13> dr_willis: nomodeset ?
[10:23] <dr_willis> theres some options to make the system switch to tty7 by default
[10:23] <dr_willis> seen that get weird.
[10:23] <dr_willis> or you see some logs on tty7 and not the login:
[10:23] <Bonez> penguinman, nope, nothing
[10:23] <dr_willis> so you are using 'nomodeset noquiet nosplash text verbose' ?
[10:24] <penguinman> hmmm, what gfx card/driver are u using?
[10:24] <dr_willis> and you did rerun update-grub after making the changes?
[10:24] <Bonez> yeah i did the update-grub, and penguinman, its dell optiplex so assuming its intel
[10:24] <penguinman> that too.
[10:25] <dr_willis> im not even sure of any other options to try to force the console into any other modes/disable the framebuffer
[10:25] <dr_willis> theres no X at all on the server?
[10:26] <Bonez> nope, no x, no gui at all
[10:26] <dr_willis> do server installs even have pymouth?
[10:26] <dr_willis> plymouth
[10:26] <dr_willis> thats what gives the fancy boot splash animation.. and causes some issues at times
[10:26] <chazword> Does anyone know of a way to have mdadm resync all drives in a RAID?  It's easy if a RAID is in a bad state, but not sure how to tell it to go through and verify a resync on a RAID that it thinks is fine.
[10:27] <Bonez> dr_willis, i do see the plymoth init scripts
[10:27] <penguinman> Bonez, maybe a purge remove of plymoth might be an option
[10:28] <penguinman> that shouldn't break anything on a server install
[10:29] <Bonez> penguinman, cant uninstall plymouth.
[10:30] <penguinman> Bonez, hmmm, does it look like it's using any kind of high res framebuffer on boot?
[10:30] <Bonez> doesnt show anything during boot, just a black screen
[10:31] <Flannel> You can, however, remove all of the plymouth themes, which should stop some of the silliness on boot.  This is as close as you're going to get to removing plymouth.
[10:31] <dr_willis> theres a text based pymouth theme also
[10:31] <dr_willis> Why cant you remove pymouhth?
[10:31] <usr13> Bonez: grep getty /etc/init/*
[10:32] <usr13> Bonez: grep getty /etc/init/* | pastebinit
[10:32] <penguinman> passing boot time options to the kernel shouldn't require an initramfs update should it?
[10:32] <Flannel> dr_willis: because theres some parts of upstart (or something else in the boot sequence) that depend on things plymouth does.
[10:32] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config text.plymouth
[10:33] <dr_willis> that seems.. weird. :)
[10:33] <dr_willis> makes me wonder what plymouth does other then causes problems.  ;P
[10:33] <penguinman> ugh, i just wish ubuntu would jump over to systemd sometimes....i know, heresy.
[10:33] <Bonez> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475245/
[10:33] <dr_willis> try the text based plymouth theme i guess
[10:33] <dr_willis> penguinman:  this channel will be murder for weeks after that happens
[10:34] <dr_willis> we still get people mad about sysv...
[10:34] <penguinman> true, but would be worth it in the long run
[10:34] <penguinman> especially on the new ultrabooks with ssds.
[10:34] <usr13> Bonez: That looks normal.  Ok.
[10:35] <penguinman> but anyway, back to the topic at hand.
[10:37] <dr_willis> i really do wonder what actual functonality plymouth serves on a server install.
[10:37] <penguinman> probably none. my guess is just some legacy code in upstart requires it
[10:37] <dr_willis> or did they have to shoe-horn it in so hard to the system that they just cant remove it. :)
[10:38] <Bonez> all the plymouth services are stopped too btw
[10:38] <dr_willis> its actually part of that initrd or whats it called.. pre-loading disk image..
[10:38] <dr_willis> well once the system boots. plymouth would stop. ;) untill reboot/shutdown i think
[10:39] <penguinman> so it's essentially compiled into the kernel? what....individual....came up with that idea?
[10:39] <dr_willis> I never did dig too deeply into the complexitys of the booting. :0
[10:39] <memand> Is it possible when you launch a program trough terminal to specify witch workspace it should launch in, and that it should be maximized?
[10:39] <dr_willis> penguinman:  the idea was to have it so early in the boot process that the end user (granny and grampa) dont see any scary text messages and have a lovely boot animation
[10:40] <penguinman> but i like my scary text messages :(
[10:40]  * hotelcalifornia some hacker here ? spammer ? carder :P
[10:40] <dr_willis> memand:  ages ago many apps could take a +XxY argument for initial position and size.. but thats been ages ;)
[10:40] <dr_willis> memand:  devilspie can sort of do it also.
[10:41] <homecable> /msg bigjohn moved free shells to /server irc.darkinfo.org channel #/b/ enjoy
[10:41] <homecable> whoops
[10:41] <homecable> fuck
[10:41] <hotelcalifornia> ^^
[10:41] <dr_willis> xterm -geometry GEOM.
[10:41] <homecable> damn fuckin client
[10:41] <memand> dr_willis: well the thing I want to do is make some programs start in different workspaces on boot/login
[10:42] <dr_willis> compiz can force some apps/windows to specific workspaces also.
[10:42] <dr_willis> theres a windows rules plugin
[10:42] <cjae> how do you tell version of nouveau?
[10:42] <dr_willis> memand:  id bet this has been covered on askubuntu.com also
[10:43] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/89946/open-application-in-specific-workspace
[10:43] <dr_willis> ')
[10:43] <memand> dr_willis: Yeah sorry, I should really ask google before asking here...
[10:44] <penguinman> cjae dpkg --info nouveau should tell you
[10:45] <cjae> penguinman: nope
[10:45] <donnie> Wow. It's almost near impossible to get someone on lubuntu..
[10:46] <gvo> donnie it works so well, no one needs help
[10:46] <donnie> No.. I'm on zorin which = lxde and there's some peeves I have I'd like to address :)
[10:46] <dr_willis> memand:  :) the answer seems to be compiz plugins. or devilspie
[10:47] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[10:47] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:47] <dr_willis> ive heard zorin has issues that are not in the normal lubuntu.. but no personal experience with it.
[10:48] <donnie> It does
[10:48] <donnie> Lxpanel likes to freeze and send the cpu in to over drive often. And there's a ton of wannabe windows 7 features
[10:48] <k1l> donnie: better ask the zorin support
[10:49] <donnie> They never answer but I'll go in and sing them a song or something :D
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> donnie  #zorinos
[10:49] <dr_willis> we have nothing todo with zorins features here. ...
[10:49] <dr_willis> sounds like a good reason to not use zorin.
[10:49] <penguinman> ok cjae try this dpkg -s nouveau | grep Ver
[10:49] <k1l> donnie: if you dont like the support, dont use the OS. :/
[10:50] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, that channel is no more afaik
[10:50] <dr_willis> I imagine zorin will some day be no more . :)
[10:50] <cjae> penguinman: nope
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> zorinos is ubuntu's look-good-derivative
[10:50] <dr_willis> makes me wonder if theres a site that lists/shows all the ubuntu spinoffs and die-off variants...
[10:51] <cjae> penguinman: I even asked in #nouveau but no answer
[10:51] <k1l> dr_willis: wikipedia got a list for that
[10:51] <OerHeks> dr_willis,  there should be an #not-ubuntu channel, but this is getting offtopic
[10:51] <dr_willis> heh.. #not-ubuntu :) is a good idea..
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ubuntu_family_tree_11-06.png
[10:52] <knacker> not sure if I'm asking in the right place but after a year of running a seriously FUp install of Ubuntu I finally "broke" it yesterday when I accidentally removed a few packages I shouldn't have and I can no longer get online to re-install either wireless or wired,, got the original install cd but can't fix issue.  other problems with install that I've ignored because its been running perfect... till now.  thanks for any advice
[10:53] <wdp> btw. are there 700 mb images of ubuntu?
[10:53] <wdp> not sure the 750mb will fit on the cd
[10:54] <dr_willis> wdp:  not of ubuntu for 12.10
[10:54] <dr_willis> wdp:  i think 12.10 lubuntu fits on cd.
[10:54] <wdp> dr_willis, is there an earlier release which i might use?
[10:54] <dr_willis> with 12.10 ubuntu finally went to the dvd size.
[10:54] <dr_willis> so anything earlier. :)
[10:55] <dr_willis> if you MUST use cd.. then you could install lubuntu, then install ubuntu-desktop package
[10:55] <dr_willis> easier tojust use a usb flash
[10:55] <OerHeks> ubuntu 12.10 fits on a 800 mb cd+r
[10:55] <penguinman> yeah, i love my 4 gig flash drive for installations
[10:55] <FlowRiser> agreed
[10:55] <penguinman> plus its much much faster
[10:56] <wdp> dr_willis, hard enough to tell my little sister how to burn a cd.
[10:56] <wdp> :-)
[10:56]  * wdp hates doing such stuff on teeh phone
[10:56] <penguinman> cjae, i think the issue may be that nouveau isn't a seperate pkg in ubuntu.
[10:56] <cjae> penguinman: right
[10:57] <penguinman> cjae, is there any reason you need a specific version
[10:57] <sideeffect> how to add stuff to taskbar in ubuntu?
[10:57] <sideeffect> i cant just right click
[10:57] <penguinman> sideeffect, just drag it over from the dash
[10:57] <cjae> wanted to able to use it in a google queries penguinman
[10:58] <penguinman> hmmm, launchpad might have it listed, one second
[10:58] <dr_willis> sideeffect:  you are refering to the gnome-2 classic like mode panels? or the unity left side panel?
[10:58] <knacker> anyone willing to help or point me in the right direction.  turned my laptop into a brick, can't fix it w/o help. I've been trying
[10:59] <sideeffect> i wanted add small temperature window to the panel
[10:59] <sideeffect> on the right side
[10:59] <sideeffect> and this curves to observe the cpu and memory workload
[10:59] <dr_willis> right side? Hmm.. not seen a right side panel by default in Unity or the gnome classic stuff..
[10:59] <penguinman> cjae, ok, got it, the specific name is xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, so run apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[11:00] <sideeffect> no, bottom panel at right side, side doesnt matter :D
[11:00] <dr_willis> sideeffect:  so... you are using which desktop?
[11:00] <sideeffect> i isntalled ubuntu 12.10, and changed to gnome look
[11:01] <dr_willis> thats a good thing to tell us at the beginning...
[11:01] <dr_willis> ;)
[11:01] <cjae> penguinman: yes you did thanks, how the heck did you find that? I was searching for awhile
[11:02] <penguinman> was googling, and remembered the naming conventions for video drivers
[11:02] <cjae> aah I c
[11:02] <cjae> thanks again
[11:02] <penguinman> np
[11:03] <denisc> knacker: I had to use iwconfig a few days ago after removing a vital gui network connection package - some details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[11:04] <Star_Light> hello. I have some text files in ubuntu and I want to convert it on PDF .... I tried to make some work with online covertors but I always get a message which is an error "Invalid type of file" what can I do?
[11:04] <Rewarding2012> clear
[11:05] <penguinman> Star_Light, i believe libre office can save as pdf
[11:05] <penguinman> Star_Light, if nothing else just open in that and save to pdf
[11:06] <Star_Light> lol
[11:06] <Star_Light> you are right :P
[11:06] <Star_Light> what a jerk I am
[11:07] <penguinman> Star_Light, its fine, everyone has those moments
[11:07] <Star_Light> hahah thank you :)
[11:07] <knacker> hey denisc, thx for replying.  not a problemy config setting, atleast not this problem.  I uninstalled a package and it uninstalled my network manager and a bunch of other packages and now I don't even have the connection applet, my wireless hardware switch does nothing and I cant get online to reinstall all the packages.  any suggestions?
[11:08] <elx> Hi there guys
[11:09] <penguinman> knacker, well, the way i would do that is boot up a live cd/usb and chroot into my install
[11:09] <elx> im trying to install windows 8 together with ubuntu on my internal HDD while i want to install W8 from an external HDD. i extracted the .iso but can't make the external HDD bootable
[11:09] <elx> have searched all over the place but nothing works...
[11:09] <elx> any ideas?
[11:09] <denisc> knacker: I'd pull up a terminal and see if you can get the interface up using iwconfig (for wireless) or ifup for ethernet. I can suggest a few commands if you like, but I'm no expert!
[11:10] <elx> so my question is how can i make an external HDD bootable on ubuntu?
[11:10] <knacker> I've got a bunch of live cd's but can't or just don't know how to install specific packages from a CD.
[11:11] <knacker> i'll give the terminal another chance as I know very little, only that I had things going good for a while... thanx guys for dealing with dumb questions
[11:12] <knacker> don't want to keep using this ancient laptop although it runs pretty good with Xfce
[11:13] <knacker> when I opened a terminal yesterday right after I noticed the applet was gone and my wifi light would not respond to the hardware switch and it didn't display any interface other than local
[11:14] <denisc> knacker: do you have a wireless connection you can connect to? If so, at the command line, type : sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "name of your network"
[11:15] <dr_willis> knacker:  install specific packages from a cd? You copied some .deb files to a cd?
[11:15] <dr_willis> elx:  i just install grub to my external HD or usb, or even sd or sdhc card and they can boot.
[11:16] <dr_willis> elx:  as for windows 8 however .. you should be asking in #windows on how set that up to install from a external medium
[11:16] <knacker> i've got a wireless, give me a sec and I'll let you know what I get back
[11:17] <elx> dr_willis, I already have Ubuntu installed and GRUB setup i'm trying to use my external HDD instead of a DVD to install W8 on the internal HDD
[11:17] <dreameunited6> how to format a corrupted usb drive in ubuntu similar to dat of windows
[11:17] <denisc> knacker: if you have the .deb packages as suggested by dr_willis, then you can install them from the command line also with: dpkg -i  package-name
[11:17] <denisc> YOu'd probably want to try network-manager
[11:17] <dreameunited6> how to format a corrupted usb drive in ubuntu similar to dat of windows
[11:18] <elx> dr_willis, the issue is that making an external hdd bootable in windows is actually simple but nobody has any idea on how to do that on Ubuntu and i need that coz i am on ubuntu
[11:18] <dr_willis> elx:  grub2 can boot ISO files.. if you use the right options..
[11:18] <dr_willis> elx:  last i heard about windows isos you could 'dd' them to  a drive and boot that drive.
[11:18] <knacker> network manager is what got uninstalled along with a bunch of other packages
[11:18] <dr_willis> elx:  windows specific tools MIGHT work with wine also.
[11:18] <dreameunited6> use unibootin to make bootable drives
[11:18] <knacker> not paying attention and just hitting ok
[11:19] <elx> dr_willis, exactly thats how it is done on windows using the command prompt, no ideas on how could that be possible be ubuntu though :(
[11:19] <dr_willis> elx:  exactly whats how?
[11:19] <denisc> knacker: the problem with trying to installing individual packages when not connected to the net is that you might not have all of the dependencies; best to try and connect to the net in my experience. Do you have an ethernet connection you could try? That's probably easier than wireless
[11:21] <knacker> i can't connect by ethernet either.  no response at all for any connectivity.
[11:21] <hakin9> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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[11:21] <elx> dr_willis, by using the bootsector restoration tool on windows: here it is show how it's done right in the end of the page : http://www.intowindows.com/install-windows-8-from-external-hard-drive/
[11:21] <hakin9> ---------------------------------
[11:22] <dr_willis> Create a bootable Windows VISTA, 7 or Windows 8 install USB drive from ISO or DVD with Linux    http://www.plop.at/en/winusbinstall.html
[11:22] <elx> dr_willis, thanks i'll give it a try, hope it works
[11:23] <dr_willis> elx:  or just dd the iso file straight to  the flash....
[11:23] <dr_willis> i dont see how that guide installs anything to the bootloader/mbr
[11:24] <dr_willis> it was the first google hit i saw for googling for 'make windows boot usb linux'
[11:24] <scoopex> when i try to browse windows shares in unity/nautilus i get the message "Failed to retrieve share list from server" ....i have no idea whats wrong - there are many issues at launchpad but i haven't seen a sulution for this - any hints?
[11:24] <elx> dr_willis, actually i extrated the .iso file to the root of the external drive. also changed the flags in gparted to boot and changed the settings in BIOS but it did'nt boot
[11:24] <elx> extracted*
[11:24] <dr_willis> http://www.techlw.com/2012/05/create-bootable-windows-usb-in-ubuntu.html
[11:25] <denisc> knacker: This might be useful to get your ethernet connection working - http://askubuntu.com/questions/22663/how-to-bring-up-network-on-boot-up-when-networkmanager-is-uninstalled
[11:26] <dr_willis> elx:  last google hit im looking at -- http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[11:26] <verd> is there a way (short of complete re-install) to upgrade a 11.04 to something more recent? update-manager tells me there are no updates to install, and I understand that 11.04 is beyond end-of-life now
[11:27] <knacker> shows up in terminal
[11:27] <dr_willis> !11.04
[11:27] <dr_willis> if its EOL you can still upgrade it to a newre release. You may need to edit your sources.list however.
[11:28] <OerHeks> oh jakub is back again with his clones
[11:28] <dr_willis> !eol
[11:28] <elx> dr_willis, I'll be back with results now reading the links you sent. Thanks again
[11:29] <knacker> wtf...  this shitty old keybaord is fcking w/me.  I tried to say thx, heading right to that site.  and that only my loopback shows up in terminal
[11:30]  * videl_ waves
[11:30] <ikonia> knacker: stop the language please.
[11:30] <ikonia> knacker: it's uncalled for and unacceptable
[11:30] <knacker> great link denisc,  thanks for dealling with a noob
[11:30] <helpplease> I need some help. I have ubuntu 12.4 installed but it will no longer boot. I've tried reinstalling twice now.
[11:31] <videl_> Anyone knows how to make unity bar to show up only on system key>?
[11:31] <knacker> if the warning about language was for me, sorry and no more from me.  sorry
[11:31] <ikonia> knacker: no problem, thank you
[11:31] <verd> dr_willis: thanks
[11:32] <knacker> so that was directed at me?
[11:32] <ikonia> knacker: yes, that's why I said "knacker, please top with the language please"
[11:32] <knacker> not trying to be difficult, just wondering for future reference
[11:32] <knacker> oh, ... I see now
[11:32] <denisc> knacker: As long as your network card is recognised on boot, sounds like you'll be able to bring up eth0 (or eth1 depending on your hardware). You don't have to use the "vim" editor - a gui editor like gedit would be easier. Main thing is to change the interfaces file, then restart networking as described
[11:33] <ikonia> knacker: normally if someone says your name, it's directed at the person who's name is referenced
[11:33] <ikonia> there should be no need to touch the interfaces file, as the network cards are managed by network-manager
[11:34] <denisc> ikonia: I think knacker has accidentally removed the network-manager package though...
[11:34] <knacker> i didn't notice, only saw the language and guessed it was for me. I am sorry. just trying to get my problems fixed without offending any sensitive people.  no more potty mouth from me, promise
[11:34] <ikonia> then re-installing it is the solution
[11:34] <ikonia> not messing with the interface file
[11:34] <videl_> for everyone interested in just talking about topics unrelated to ubuntu, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <knacker> yup
[11:35] <ikonia> videl_: no-one is talking about non-ubuntu topics
[11:35] <helpplease> blaizco: I have tried to reinstall and it will not fix the problem. I  get an error message and a grub recovery command promt
[11:36] <denisc> ikonia: knacker is trying to connect to the net, so I'm trying to suggest ways to do that via the command line, given that network-manager has gone...
[11:36] <ikonia> ifconfig or "ip" will set an ip address
[11:36] <ikonia> again, there is no neet to mess with the interfaces file
[11:36] <knacker> and I am very thankful for the help denisc
[11:37] <denisc> knacker: no worries - best to follow the more experienced advice of ikonia here!
[11:37] <vrnithin> hi,
[11:37] <knacker> yes you are right, I accidentally removed the network manager when I removed a VPN package that I was not using.
[11:38] <ikonia> denisc: where you are going is fine, just keep in mind that putting entries in the interface file, can cause problems when network manager is restored
[11:38] <ikonia> so just doing a simple ifconfig and route add to get the interface up and restore network manager maybe easier (or not)
[11:38] <ikonia> or a dhclient eth0 to get a dhcp address
[11:39] <knacker> if that is the case I would say that I am not experienced enough to start messing with my interface files...   when I do an ifconfig I am only seeing my loopback
[11:39] <knacker> my other interfaces are gone
[11:40] <ikonia> knacker: sudo ifconfig -a do you only see "lo"
[11:40] <vrnithin> i was trying to install bumblebee on my ubuntu 12.04 on the last part i got an error  "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/ precise/main libllvm3.1 amd64 3.1-1~precise1   Connection failed"
[11:40] <vrnithin> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/pool/main/l/llvm-3.1/libllvm3.1_3.1-1~precise1_amd64.deb  Connection failed
[11:40] <ikonia> vrnithin: ok, so that package is not there
[11:40] <ikonia> vrnithin: you can check that by checking the link in a browser
[11:41] <vrnithin> ikonia, i downloaded that package by browser
[11:41] <knacker> oops, as root I can see them all now.  let me play around or do you have a better suggestion.  thank you for the help
[11:41] <ikonia> vrnithin: ........why ?
[11:41] <vrnithin> how can i use that .deb file with other fetched files to install bumblebee
[11:42] <ikonia> vrnithin: it's not something i'd recommend doing
[11:42] <ikonia> vrnithin: did you get the file from the same URL that's failing ?
[11:42] <B0R3D_W1Sd0m> is it possible to change the name of volume group
[11:42] <vrnithin> ikonia, yup
[11:42] <B0R3D_W1Sd0m> and not to break os
[11:43] <ikonia> vrnithin: ok, so if you do a "sudo apt-get update" does that repo sill error ?
[11:43] <vrnithin> ikonia, but when i tried after apt-get update.. still it showing same error
[11:44] <vrnithin> ikonia, only that package is remaining others out of 122 mb fetched
[11:44] <ikonia> vrnithin: sorry, when you do "sudo apt-get update" does that repo still error as part of that command
[11:44] <vrnithin> ikonia, nope its updating fine
[11:44] <knacker> showing all my interface when running ifconfig as root but giving me error msg when I tried to bring wlan0 up
[11:45] <ikonia> vrnithin: ok, so the repo is available, we need to look at why that package is unavailable to you
[11:45] <knacker> "not possible due to RF-kill" is what came up when I ran ifconfig wlan0 up
[11:45] <denisc> knacker: I'd stick with eth0 for the moment - wlan0 is your wireless interface - at least try ethernet first
[11:47] <knacker> lol,  ok heading down stairs to ethernet....   any linux gurus need an apartment or room?   trade for tech support:)
[11:47] <vrnithin> ikonia, will it work if i do this again "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates" ?
[11:47] <Cosaplopa> Hi
[11:48] <ikonia> vrnithin: you should have it already added if you're trying to install it
[11:49] <vrnithin> ikonia, yup i already added
[11:49] <ikonia> so re-adding it does seem a good move
[11:49] <vrnithin> ikonia, can i add this file manually to other fetched files ?
[11:50] <Cosaplopa> new to this , using Ubuntu 12.04 on a dell D630 centrino, everything works well, but the webcam, not detected apparently, anybody knows where and if the there is a driver for that ?
[11:50] <ikonia> vrnithin: you can using dpkg, but it's not something I'd recommend, you have a problem and I'd suggest resolving it
[11:50] <ikonia> !webcam | Cosaplopa
[11:50] <Taev> can anyone tell me why my webserver occasionally gives me Error 500permission denied errors on pages that are set 755 rw-r-r
[11:50] <Cosaplopa> thanks
[11:50] <Taev> after i reload a few times it works
[11:50] <vrnithin> ikonia, so what to do ?
[11:50] <Taev> it only happens occasionally which makes it all the more frustrating
[11:52] <knacker> was able to bring eth0 up but no connectivity? other suggestions.  thanks again all
[11:52] <ikonia> vrnithin: a good question I'm concerned that this file is erroring, yet the file is there
[11:52] <ikonia> knacker: how did you bring it up
[11:52] <ikonia> vrnithin: the package manager is core to your system, hence why I'd suggest fixing it before trying to install other things
[11:53] <knacker> ifconfig eth0 up...  as root
[11:53] <vrnithin> ikonia, how  to fix it ?
[11:53] <ikonia> knacker: that won't do anything
[11:53] <ikonia> knacker: you need it to have an ip address
[11:53] <knacker> i guessed that
[11:53] <ikonia> knacker: is this network a dhcp network ?
[11:54] <ikonia> vrnithin: a good question,
[11:54] <knacker> yes, it is dhcp
[11:54] <knacker> i am on it using an OLD laptop now
[11:54] <ikonia> knacker: so "sudo dhclient eth0" should hopefully get an ip address for your card
[11:54] <ole_oz6oh> Hello friends i lok for users off glade
[11:54] <ole_oz6oh> look
[11:55] <vrnithin> ikonia, is there any way to reset it and start again ?
[11:56] <ikonia> vrnithin: you could re-move the PPA and re-add it, however I don't see how that would resolve a connection being dropped
[11:56] <vrnithin> ikonia, is there any way to copy that manually to other files fetched ??
[11:57] <knacker> ikonia: just ran it, got no response or prompt for password, ran it again and got ...:file exists
[11:57] <ikonia> vrnithin: I've told you two times now "yes" use dpkg to install it, however I would strongly recommend against it
[11:57] <TVQ> Hey guys, when I turn on my computer, I can't find the login screen. All I see is a black screen and a mouse pointer. My computer is running Ubuntu 10.04LTS. Any suggestions?
[11:57] <ikonia> knacker: exactly what command did you run "exactly"
[11:58] <vrnithin> ikonia, k then what to do ?
[11:58] <ikonia> vrnithin: I'm going to stop talking to you now, as you just keep asking the same question over and over while I keep giving you information
[11:58] <knacker> ikonia: exactly " sudo dhclient eth0"
[11:59] <vrnithin> ikonia, sorry
[11:59] <ikonia> knacker: if you do "sudo ifconfig eth0" does your card now have an ip address
[11:59] <kaar> TVQ: If it has been in suspended mode on a laptop for example this is a bug. I have yet to resolve it myself.
[11:59] <knacker> yes
[11:59] <ikonia> knacker: ok, so you should be on the network now (hopefully)
[12:01] <denisc> knacker: great! now try pinging an internet address (I use "ping www.aarnet.edu.au") and if you get a response time and a series of "pings" you are ready for the next step which is "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[12:01] <TVQ> kaar, What I have to do right now? Should I reinstall Ubuntu?
[12:01] <knacker> ikonia:  don't know if I am 100% but I just pinged google and got good reply
[12:02] <denisc> knacker: that's a good sign - go for the "sudo apt-get install network-manager" step now
[12:02] <ikonia> knacker: sounds good
[12:02] <kaar> TVQ, Does it happen to you even if you reboot the computor?
[12:02] <TVQ> kaar, yes :(
[12:03] <knacker> Ikonia:  ok, will do that now...  watching you and you deserve some serious Karma points.  in a year of using Linux exclusively you're only the second person to help me
[12:03] <ikonia> knacker: don't give it a second thought, just glad you're working
[12:03] <kaar> TVQ, For me it happens only if i close the lid on my laptop with two many applications running and it boots up from suspended mode.
[12:05] <knacker> :)   think you two got me back in business!!  still no applet on panel but just installed NW-mng w/o problem!
[12:05] <ikonia> knacker: gnome-network-manager
[12:05] <TVQ> kaar, I tried to reboot my computer so many time, I also restarted the GDM. But it still stuck with this error.
[12:05] <kaar> TVQ, Maybe try to login to tty1 and clean your desktop configuration.
[12:05] <knacker> sorry denisc...third person;)
[12:06] <TVQ> kaar, Can you show me how to clean the configuration?
[12:06] <denisc> knacker: Good one - the other package I have is "network-manager-gnome" so that should get you going :)
[12:06] <knacker> ikonia:  do you mean also or I should have installed that.
[12:06] <ikonia> knacker: you should install that as denisc just highlighted
[12:07] <kaar> TVQ, gnome or Unity=
[12:07] <knacker> ok, i see now, you two are two fast and I'm on two computers right ow but I am much happier than earlier
[12:07] <TVQ> kaar, Gnome!
[12:08] <kaar> "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity" will remove any gnome configuration
[12:08] <TVQ> kaar, Let's me see. Thank you!
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:12] <TVQ> kaar, still stuck in this trouble. Thank you anyway.
[12:12] <knacker> denisc & ikonia:   just restarted my machine and I see that little icon I missed so much...wireless is back!!  thanks a million.
[12:12] <ikonia> knacker: welcome
[12:13] <denisc> knacker: excellent
[12:14] <kaar> TVQ, guess you have tried "service gdm restart"
[12:14] <knacker> yes it is,  actually running better than before I messed things up.  hope I can repay the favor to someone in the future... and sorry bout the language.
[12:15] <ikonia> knacker: don't worry
[12:15] <Catbuntu> Hi
[12:15] <TVQ> kaar, I tried to restart gdm using this command "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart". But It failed!
[12:15] <knacker> I'm not:)    just grateful
[12:16] <iceroot> TVQ: sudo service gdm restart
[12:17] <iceroot> TVQ: but if i am correct no ubuntu version (which is still supported) is using gdm. its using lightdm instead
[12:17] <Mary2012> ciao
[12:17] <Mary2012> !list
[12:18] <giusy> ciao
[12:18] <giusy> !list
[12:18] <TVQ> iceroot, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I've tried your command. But it failed!
[12:19] <iceroot> TVQ: i am not sure if 10.04 is already using upstart
[12:19] <knacker> ikonia:  oops,  misunderstood you...  I am sorry "bout the language"   take care to you both
[12:19] <iceroot> but imo it was introduced with 9.10
[12:19] <iceroot> TVQ: and it would be great to know what "failed" means
[12:20] <iceroot> !upstart
[12:21] <TVQ> I'm trying to reinstall Ubuntu, thank you for your help, iceroot, kaar !
[12:21] <iceroot> TVQ: what is your issue?
[12:23] <ahhughes> reading a few guides but there is nothing definitive.... I need to see a few (user level, i.e. me) environment variables... in what file can I set these?
[12:25] <ahhughes> see == set
[12:26]  * ahhughes is tired
[12:26] <dbrom> hello all
[12:27] <sideeffect> maybe a general question:  I am quite a noob in linux issues.  I installed ubuntu 12.10. i want change there a lot, too many things to ask here. change the appearance, add stuff to panels, install apropriatte graphic drivers, get compizcube to work. just customize ubuntu my way and so on. maybe therefore are tutorials. someone knows such tutorials?
[12:29] <dbrom> this is what im facing... I have four monitors hooked up to a kubuntu 12.10 system that i have a nvidia 580 Ti card . the thing is one monitor isnt working and the second on is black and the other two are clones of each other
[12:29] <sideeffect> because its very hard to do something on linux, because there is always something missing when I do something in the terminal. yum etc. etc. and then i dont know how to install such stuff
[12:30] <knacker> sideefthere is actfe great video track ame right nowne goin get thon compizcube tec on youtube by a very cute girl, I'll get the name and be right back but being somewhat new myself, I wouldn't worry about graffics but..
[12:30] <CookieM> sideeffect, imo 12.10 isn't quite stable, i recommend installing 12.04 lts (precise pangolin)
[12:30] <sideeffect> a tutorial would be very helpful
[12:31] <dbrom> CookieM: could that solve my issue also
[12:31] <sideeffect> i see. but either way i wouldl need a tutorial
[12:31] <l057c0d3r> sideeffect.. sorry was away.  a tutorial for what may i ask..
[12:31] <l057c0d3r> i could probably locate one for you
[12:32] <CookieM> sideeffect, have you asked google/duckduckgo for that?
[12:32] <sideeffect> how to use ubuntu, ans install there graphic drivers
[12:32] <sideeffect> and which commands do what
[12:32] <l057c0d3r> sideeffect.. a graphics driver for ati or nvidia
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> sideeffect  ubuntu has apt-get, not yum
[12:32] <knacker> sideeffect:  got a bunch of grat ones coming for ya ... one min
[12:32] <l057c0d3r> and if you want to learn the terminal.. i got a great place to send you :-)
[12:32] <sideeffect> ati. i use a netbook, graphics on a amd cpu
[12:32] <l057c0d3r> and apt-get is amazing by the way
[12:33] <l057c0d3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:33] <l057c0d3r> that is the best guide for ati on ubuntu bro :-)
[12:35] <sideeffect> thx ;-)
[12:35] <l057c0d3r> np
[12:35] <savio> hi
[12:35] <savio> all
[12:35] <sideeffect> and a side which say what commands do waht, like sudo "apt-get"
[12:36] <sideeffect> so far i figured out that sudo-apt get donwloads programm one needs
[12:36] <sideeffect> but there are a lot of more commands
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> sudo runs something with root privilages...
[12:36] <srhb>  sideeffect: Do you know about "man"?
[12:36] <knacker> sideeffects...  youtube  NixiePixel  will get you all you want and more
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> apt-get is the program that installs packages... also known as a package manager
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> man apt-get  for information on apt-get
[12:36] <srhb> sideeffect: It will bring up the manual page for any command. So man sudo will tell you about sudo, man apt-get will tell you about apt-get
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> man sudo for info on sudo
[12:36] <savio> !apt-get
[12:36] <DJones> !terminal | sideeffect This should give you a start on different commands in the terminal,
[12:36] <l057c0d3r> ext ext
[12:37] <sideeffect> with nixi-pixel i restored my grub so far XD
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> nixie pixel <3
[12:37] <l057c0d3r> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:37] <l057c0d3r> and
[12:37] <l057c0d3r> http://linuxcommand.org/
[12:37] <l057c0d3r> learn the terminal sideeffect :-)
[12:37] <knacker> but I would learn some other topics before I worry bout graffics but I can see that you are already getting a lesson.  good luck, hope you get as good help as I got here this am
[12:37] <ioseph> Hi!:) I have a problem with my old macbook 2 1 on which I installed Ubuntu 12.04 couple of days ago, replacing os x. my mac has 512 M memory.  i'm suffering from brightness which I set to 5 in System Settings->Personal->Brightness and Lock  panel, but it always changes to 15 whenever I shut down and boot again. According to the information from web, I added 'echo > 5 /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness' and 'echo > 36 /sys/class/backlight/intel_b
[12:40] <knacker> most helpful terminal instruction for noobs I've found is the LTHW series... Leaning  XXX the hard way by Zed Shaw.  free HTML Command line crash course. its great
[12:40] <CookieM> sideeffect, http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[12:40] <l057c0d3r> sideeffect..  once you learn the ends and outs of linux...  you will fall in love with how much control over your system you actually have...
[12:41] <knacker> MonkeyDust:   :))
[12:41] <savio> knacker, give us link
[12:42] <sideeffect> i see that achieving that could be sooo helplful in pc-stuff, but its a very long and complicated way :D. and the problemm in school is, that one has always to fall back to windows, because work need to be done
[12:43] <Ben64> sideeffect: work can and is done on linux
[12:43] <thufir_> help.  ubuntu 11.10 works fine. for clean install of 12.10 I have no GUI. I'M stuck in rescue mode, no web browser.  how do I change boot mode to non-gui, console only please?  pardon, but urgent.
[12:43] <l057c0d3r> ill be honest i do all the work in my classes that require ms office in libree office
[12:43] <l057c0d3r> visual studio is the only software that i currently require windows for when it comes to school
[12:43] <sideeffect> that was always the problem, in last 5years i had installed linux severall times, but then i used windows again and again, and there was no much time left to play with linux.
[12:43] <sideeffect> thats true, but sometimes one hast to use some programms
[12:44] <Ben64> i haven't installed windows for 10 years
[12:44] <DJones> !text | thufir_ This should get you to a text mode instead of gui,
[12:44] <l057c0d3r> sideeffect
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> sideeffect  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows /// http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide
[12:44] <l057c0d3r> install virtual box and put your windows in there :-)
[12:44] <l057c0d3r> thats what i did
[12:44] <thufir_> DJones: what I'm asking about is how to select like : 1,2,3 so that startx doesn't start. thank you for the previous reply.
[12:45] <l057c0d3r> that way i can always have my linux system up and can boot windows from inside linux to do what ever i may need windows for
[12:45] <sideeffect> i see, but I, which is not familiar with linux, has just to use, what he is capable of using. XD
[12:45] <thufir_> I think I want to set "boot mode" of either 3 or 5?
[12:45] <knacker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFqj2hS_0iQ
[12:45] <sideeffect> but now i have a little more time
[12:45] <knacker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJaTA25tpMg
[12:46] <sideeffect> and maybe, hoping, this time i will stay on linux
[12:46] <knacker> http://www.youtube.com/user/NixiePixel?feature=watch
[12:47] <sideeffect> i found also: http://www.youtube.com/user/NixiePixel?feature=watch
[12:47] <kaar> The more about linux you learn the more stuck you become
[12:47] <sideeffect> ähh
[12:47] <thufir_> what is the name of the setting so that the integer 1 to 5 is set for no gui, auto login, or gui login, etc? pardon, I'm stuck in rescue mode.
[12:47] <sideeffect> i found also: http://www.noobslab.com/
[12:47] <knacker> iypu and yup
[12:47] <Ben64> thufir_: I don't think it works like that anymore
[12:48] <thufir_> Ben64: ohhhh.  what was that called tho?  can you tell me the file that it was?  I have no browser to look it up.
[12:48] <Ben64> thufir_: it wasn't a file, it was "init"
[12:48] <Ben64> !runlevel | thufir_
[12:48] <thufir_> thank you
[12:49] <knacker> yay, she does great tutorials on graphics and even if you don't care much for GUI goodness like me she  is still fun to watch and creates some amazing desktops
[12:49] <thufir_> ok, how can I change upstart so that it doesn't try to load x?
[12:49] <Ben64> DJones already gave you the answer to how to start in text mode
[12:50] <dbrom> anyone combining video cards for larger desktop in kubuntu
[12:50] <thufir_> right, but I want to fix that permanently pls.
[12:50] <sideeffect> thx so far ppl. information will be usefull to me. have to get away from pc now, will be back later ^^
[12:50] <sideeffect> bye
[12:50] <thufir_> I have no scroll. can you pls tell me again?
[12:51] <thufir_> oh, I do have scrolling. nm.
[12:52] <thufir_> when I press shift that will bring me to grub?  then I append "text" to what exactly?  I have no web browser to get further details.
[12:53] <Ben64> thufir_: where it says something like "        linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-35-generic root=UUID=60136647-e73d-4cf9-99ed-eafc4976776a ro   quiet splash" add "text" to the end of the line
[12:54] <thufir_> ok. and grub will show that already, I don't have to type all that in?
[12:54] <Ben64> first you have to hit "e" to edit the menu option, then edit the line that looks like that
[12:55] <Sensei_Jer> I'm having problems with youtube videos - stop every few seconds
[12:55] <Sensei_Jer> ran both chromium and Firefox - same results
[12:55] <thufir_> thank you.  I'll go reboot now. before I do so, what should I install once I get to that point so that I have a gui. it's an older computer.  11.10 works fine, but 12.10 xubuntu just gives "cannot display"
[12:56] <thufir_> I installed from the minimal cd and selected 'xubuntu' but, apparently, it's too much for my graphics card (I assume).  11.10 works fine.
[12:57] <Ben64> thufir_: cannot display what
[12:57] <thufir_> the monitor says "cannot display"
[12:58] <thufir_> it's not a message from the OS.
[12:58] <Ben64> it's probably just trying to display in the wrong resolution then
[12:58] <thufir_> aha, that would make sense. can you suggest a change to make before rebooting?
[12:58] <Ben64> what graphics card?
[12:59] <thufir_> I don't know. it's builtin.  I have to quit irc to find out as I'm in rescue mode.  it's an older pc.
[12:59] <Ben64> why would you have to quit for that
[13:00] <thufir_> because I only have one terminal. how can I get to the terminal without quitting?
[13:00] <Ben64> try this....
[13:00] <Ben64> /exec -o lspci | grep VGA
[13:00] <Kircle> I've installed the 3.6 kernel but there hasn't been an entry created in the grub boot menu. How do I create an entry for it?
[13:00] <Ben64> Kircle: which version of ubuntu, and how did you install it
[13:01] <thufir_> Ben64: can I do that without quitting irc?  put finch into the background?
[13:01] <Ben64> thufir_: you should be able to run that command right from irc
[13:02] <Ben64> although I'm not sure about your client
[13:02] <zoogoo> hello
[13:02] <Kircle> Ben64 I installed the debian files from kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 and are using grub customiser
[13:02] <thufir_> Ben64: iter's finch.  it says "no such command".
[13:02] <Ben64> thufir_: no such command as /exec?
[13:03] <Ben64> Kircle: that doesn't sound very supported
[13:03] <thufir_> finch, the text version of pidgin, says "no such command"
[13:04] <Ben64> thufir_: can you switch to a different console? CTRL+ALT+F2 for example
[13:04] <thufir_> no, I cannot switch to another console. there's only the one console in this version of rescue mode.
[13:04] <zoogoo> clear
[13:05] <thufir_> I'll just reboot, back in a bit, hopefuly with multiple console's.  anything else before I go?
[13:05] <Ben64> thufir_: well then I guess reboot, would be easier with a normal mode
[13:05] <thufir_> thank you for the help.
[13:07] <a216vcti> Hello everyone. How would I remove a third party software package?  I installed oracle java from PPA and wanted to remove it.
[13:07] <Ben64> same way as any other package
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> !ppa-purge | a216vcti
[13:12] <heaven_yang> hello
[13:14] <_thufir> hola!  thanks for the help, I was no able to login text mode for clean install of ubuntu 12.10.  I'm getting hardware info and need to, probably change the resulution so that xubuntu desktop, installed from the minimal cd, will display correctly on my older pc.
[13:15] <Heart^Killer> hi anyone here
[13:15] <knacker> HKillera few :)
[13:15] <cfhowlett> Heart^Killer: yes
[13:16] <a216vcti> ubottu: Thanks for the help I tried the instructions listed in the link you provided and ran the following command;
[13:16] <a216vcti> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:THE_PPA
[13:16] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:16] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:16] <a216vcti> oh.
[13:16] <a216vcti> crap.
[13:17] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:17] <Heart^Killer> hi
[13:17] <_thufir> my hardware is as so:  paste.ubuntu.com/1475512  via pastebinit, so I assum it's there.  I need help pls to change monitor resolution (down) so that I can boot xubuntu desktop.
[13:17] <Heart^Killer> anyoone here
[13:17] <_thufir> Ben64: paste.ubuntu.com/1475512
[13:18] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:18] <usr13> _thufir: Should auto-detect.  Just boot to it and see.
[13:18] <alexit> hello
[13:19] <cfhowlett> alexit: greetings
[13:19] <_thufir> usr13: the monitor says "cannot display"  so I'm now in text mode.
[13:19] <alexit> cfhowlett: hi
[13:19] <Ben64> usr13: his monitor wasn't displaying it, seemed to be going out of range
[13:19] <knacker> alexit: have you looked at the accessibility settings.  trying to think where it is.  I'll take a look and get back
[13:19] <alexit> cfhowlett: could you help me
[13:19] <Ben64> usr13: i'm not big into xrandr, not sure if you are
[13:19] <alexit> knacker: accessibility settings ?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> alexit: not my area of expertise.  sorry.
[13:20] <thekinn> #29c3
[13:20] <usr13> _thufir: xorgsetup
[13:20] <usr13> _thufir: sudo xorgsetup
[13:20] <_thufir> usr13: thank you, I'll look into that.  any pointers?  I have no browser, of course.
[13:20] <knacker> let me see if that is where it is, let u know.
[13:20] <_thufir> or, no gui browser I should say.
[13:21] <alexit> hello could anyone help me enabling my backlight KEyboard on ASUS N56VZ laptop ? Running ubuntu 12.10
[13:22] <usr13> _thufir: xorgsetup   (it's a command line interface)
[13:23] <knacker> alexit:  i'm looking around, just had to do this but forgot where the setting is.  I'll find it for ya
[13:23] <_thufir> usr13: command not found when run as user or sudo.  hmm.
[13:23] <usr13> _thufir: lspci |pastebinit #send resulting URL.
[13:23] <alexit> knacker: ?
[13:23] <knacker> ya?
[13:24] <_thufir> usr13: I did.  can you scroll up?  I can do it again, takes a few minutes.
[13:24] <usr13> _thufir: jockey-text -l
[13:25] <Heart^Killer> i have used this command chown -hR samguy / samguy on my ubuntu server with root priviliges under / and this has caused server to write all wrong permissions to all the folder how can i fix the server back to its default state? please
[13:25] <_thufir> usr13: paste.ubuntu.com/1475540    pardon, what's jockey-text? sounds interesting.
[13:25] <usr13> _thufir: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[13:27] <_thufir> usr13: ok. done.  but don't you mean cp?
[13:27] <usr13> _thufir: NO, mv
[13:27] <usr13> _thufir: Are you in tty7?
[13:28] <krz> does ubuntu support Intel PRO Wireless Advanced-N 6230 wireless module?
[13:28] <gurjeet> whois bobweaver
[13:29] <_thufir> usr13: actually, wait, didn't back that up.  I don't know whether I'm in tty7, I know I'm in console only.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475545
[13:29] <krz> anyone?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> krz  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[13:29] <usr13> _thufir: Did you boot to console mode on purpose?
[13:30] <zuzi> my ubuntu freezes any dea please?
[13:30] <_thufir> usr13: of course. the monitor was saying "cannot display"
[13:30] <usr13> _thufir: What kind of monitor is it?
[13:30] <knacker> alexit: sorry, thought I knew right where it was as I just dealt with that but moved a few things around since.  I'll keep looking around for you.
[13:30] <_thufir> an old benq 15 LCD.  bought used.
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> krz  maybe you can add your wireless card to that list
[13:31] <_thufir> usr13: ubuntu 11.10 works fine. 12.10 gives "cannot display" for xubuntu desktop. ergo, it's a setting of some sort.  resolution?
[13:31] <usr13> _thufir: Reboot  and see if it works now.
[13:31] <krz> MonkeyDust: i haven't got my laptop yet. but when i do. i want to install ubunu on i
[13:31] <krz> it*
[13:31] <_thufir> usr13: why would it work now?  I haven't changed anything.
[13:32] <usr13> _thufir: What was the result of sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  ?
[13:32] <krz> MonkeyDust: its not on that list. does that mean it won't work?
[13:32] <usr13> _thufir:  ... any error?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> krz  i do'nt use wireless myself, i guess the best way to find out, is by trying
[13:33] <_thufir> usr13: I did a pastie, to you, I don't see that file.
[13:33] <winx> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> krz  but i see no reason why it wouldnt work
[13:34] <_thufir> usr13: paste.ubuntu.com/1475555     no such file.
[13:34] <krz> MonkeyDust: i see no reason anywhere that it should work as well
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> krz  then the only way is by trying if it works
[13:35] <usr13> _thufir: What is that?:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475555/
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> krz  start with a live cd or usb
[13:35] <winx> what do guys?
[13:36] <krz> http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/sb/cs-006408.htm says it does. so i think thats good news
[13:36] <winx> I want to install grub to mbr but there's arleady windows bootmgr, wat do?
[13:36] <_thufir> usr13: it should show contents of X11, that there's no file which you say to move.
[13:36] <usr13> _thufir: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Tell us what that says.
[13:37] <Heart^Killer> i have used this command chown -hR samguy / samguy on my ubuntu server with root priviliges under / and this has caused server to write all wrong permissions to all the folder how can i fix the server back to its default state? please
[13:37] <gurjeet> I am having trouble with BCM4331 wireless on MacBook Pro 9,1 model. It keeps disconnecting every few seconds.
[13:37] <knacker> alexit:  your keyboard settings are under... system settings --> Input Devices --->keyboard ---> advanced.  that should get you there.  there is a help menu on the page that is very thorough
[13:37] <_thufir> usr13: pastebinit says "you are trying to send an empty document, exiting"
[13:38] <usr13> _thufir: Ok.
[13:38] <dbrom> howdo i run two card with two monitors on each card with kubuntu 12.10
[13:38] <usr13> _thufir: What are you using for a cable?  VGA or _________?
[13:39] <_thufir> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475568   I installed from minimal cd, selected "xubuntu desktop".  now, 11.10 worked fine, so it must be a setting. I just installed a little bit ago.
[13:39] <gurjeet> ^^ Can someone help me figure out what's the problem with my Ubuntu 12.04 + Broadcom 4331?
[13:39] <_thufir> usr13: the monitor works fine from ubuntu 11.10. ergo, the monitor and cable is fine.
[13:39] <gurjeet> I even tried installing kernel version 3.4 and that didn't help at all.
[13:39] <_thufir> usr13: just a few hours ago.  11.10 worked fine.
[13:39] <usr13> _thufir: Are you in tty7 ?
[13:40] <_thufir> usr13: text only.
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> krz  if you adapter turns out to work, you should inform the channel, so the hardware list can be updated
[13:40] <krz> will do
[13:40] <mats> hello
[13:40] <krz> should i install 64 or 32 bit?
[13:41] <usr13> _thufir: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:41] <mats> i have an old sd reader on my computer running ubuntu i386 12.04 and i can read the card in terminal, but on the gui the card is empty. PLEASE HELP!!!!
[13:41] <_thufir> usr13: ok, one min pls. thx
[13:42] <_thufir> usr13: empty document, won't pastebinit
[13:42] <mats> when i try to move the files in terminal i get an input/output error and the files are locked and i can't read, i am in ROOT when i try this????
[13:42] <cfhowlett> krz: if your setup can run 64, install 64.
[13:43] <_thufir> usr13: reading the wiki on lynx.  LOL.
[13:43] <bekks> mats: provide the entire output you get please, in a pastebin.
[13:43] <winx> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting. What can I do?
[13:43] <_thufir> there's a screen resolution tool?
[13:43] <bekks> !paste | mats
[13:44] <mats> mv: reading `/media/disk_/DCIM/home/DSCF8720.JPG': Input/output error
[13:44] <mats> mv: failed to extend `/media/home/DSCF8720.JPG': Input/output error
[13:44] <mats> mv: reading `/media/disk_/DCIM/home/DSCF8721.JPG': Input/output error
[13:44] <mats> mv: failed to extend `/media/home/DSCF8721.JPG': Input/output error
[13:44] <bekks> !paste | mats
[13:44] <_thufir> trying to use xrandr to set screen resolution
[13:44] <tdn> Can I install Ubuntu Server on a USB pendrive so that I can use it on a computer with no hard drive?
[13:44] <usr13> _thufir: lightdm
[13:44] <bekks> mats: This channel is not a pastebin. Use a pastebin. And provide the command you are using too, please.
[13:44] <bekks> tdn: Yes.
[13:45] <usr13> _thufir: You can't.  YOu have booted to console mode.
[13:45] <mats> dammit dont have time,
[13:45] <mats> gtg
[13:45] <_thufir> usr13: thanks, xrandr yeah, won't open. thx.
[13:45] <tdn> bekks, how?
[13:45] <bekks> mats: Good luck then.
[13:45] <usr13> _thufir: lightdm
[13:45] <mats> yea, its only a few lines, dont need pastebin never had before
[13:45] <bekks> tdn: By just installing Ubuntu on your pendrive.
[13:45] <usr13> _thufir: Tell us what is the output of command lightdm
[13:45] <Surkow|laptop> hi guys, I installed 12.10 on a number of computers with nvidia hardware. Manually installing the kernel headers before installing the nvidia drivers solved my driver hassels. But now gnome-session-fallback has issues. It no longer loads a window manager.
[13:45] <mats> dont be a jackass
[13:45] <winx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1475585/
[13:45] <tdn> bekks, just leave it in while installing from the normal installer?
[13:46] <bekks> mats: It was just spamming this channel, which ic pretty unfriendly.
[13:46] <Surkow|laptop> *hassles
[13:46] <tdn> bekks, how do I know which of the USB drives is the installer and which one is the empty?
[13:46] <mats> you seem pretty unfriendly, thanks for nothing
[13:46] <Surkow|laptop> compiz --replace doesn't work either.
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> tdn  server is not a live iso, it's an installer, so i guess you need to make a persistent installation on the usb stick
[13:46] <bekks> mats: Yes, good luck then, and a happy new year.
[13:47] <tdn> MonkeyDust, yeah, can I do that directly from the normal ubuntu server installer?
[13:47] <tdn> MonkeyDust, and just use the usb drive as target?
[13:47] <neberu> neberu is here mike
[13:47] <bekks> tdn: You'd better use the live cd as installation source, not the server cd.
[13:48] <chaospsychex> hi
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> !usb | tdn
[13:48] <chaospsychex> I have integrated intel video chipset. xrandr is not reporting the supported display modes for my monitor/gpu
[13:48] <cm1nus> softwr
[13:49] <chaospsychex> I can only use 1024x700 when I should be able to use 1280x1024
[13:49] <cm1nus> wicked bt modules d
[13:49] <chaospsychex> as that's the highest resolution my monitor supports
[13:49] <cm1nus> d=u or else
[13:49] <chaospsychex> Ben64: are you here?
[13:50] <Surkow|laptop> so, anyone experience with gnome-session-fallback? I can't get compiz to run.
[13:50] <Ben64> chaospsychex: for the next minute or something
[13:50] <wdp> could it be, that ubuntu shows only a blackscreen on installation due to a too old ati graphic card?
[13:50] <chaospsychex> Ben64: what was that CMD you wanted me to run last night ? lspci -?
[13:50] <krz> cfhowlett: how do i verify if it can run 64?
[13:50] <Surkow|laptop> it worked prior to installing the nvidia drivers, the nvidia drivers work fine with unity.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> krz wait one ...
[13:51] <bekks> krz: By taking a look at cat /proc/cpuinfo and investigating wether your CPU modell supports 64bit, on the manfucaturers site.
[13:51] <Ben64> Dec 28 2012 20:09:05 <Ben64>	chaospsychex: could you pastebin the output of "lsmod; lspci"
[13:53] <chaospsychex> Ben64: http://pastie.org/5592988 <- lsmod
[13:54] <Ben64> chaospsychex: you might want to direct your questions toward the whole channel, I've got to get to sleep now
[13:54] <sevenforall> Every now and then, my computer fails to complete the DNS lookup, going offline. However, this issue only seems to occur within Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[13:54] <Ben64> chaospsychex: good luck
[13:54] <chaospsychex> Ben64: ok
[13:54] <bekks> sevenforall: Check your DNS settings then.
[13:54] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: I think the problem is with gnome
[13:55] <chaospsychex> Could someone help me with getting xrandr to detect the max supported resolution of my monitor, which is 1280x1024 ?
[13:55] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, I tried just about any nvidia driver combination. I can't get any window manager to work, while it works with nouveau
[13:55] <sevenforall> bekks: Well, it doesn't matter wether I use the automatic settings or configure it to use Google's DNS servers, it will just fail after a while
[13:56] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, when starting compiz in the terminal, there are no errors either. It seems to work fine.
[13:56] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #Let's have a look
[13:56] <bekks> sevenforall: "it will fail" means what exactly? Are the settings unset, do they disappear from /etc/resolv.conf - or what happens?
[13:57] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: You say that you've tried "just about any nvidia driver combination".  There is only one that will work.
[13:57] <sevenforall> bekks: I have no idea what exactly happens. It simply will lose the DNS, everything remains configured. Chrome will give the feedback that the look-up failed, Pidgin will just lose all the accounts except for GTalk (that apparently uses the DNS only once, or something)
[13:58] <sevenforall> It fails to make any new connections because of it
[13:58] <bekks> sevenforall: Then please check your settings in /etc/resolv.conf and in the NetworkManager.
[13:59] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, http://pastebin.com/YDKNyGrS
[14:00] <thufir_> hi.  woe is me.  I cannot seem to run even lightdm(?), everything seems to result in the monitor saying that cannot display this video mode.  However, ubuntu 11.10 works fine.  just 12.10 gives this error.
[14:00] <chaospsychex> can someone help me get xrandr to correctly detect my monitor's EDID data ?
[14:00] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, ubuntu offers nvidia current, current updates, experimental and nouveau
[14:01] <thufir_> usr13: I just got that the monitor couldn't display that video mode, had to reboot.
[14:01] <Surkow|laptop> I tried them all except for the experimental version.
[14:01] <joey8> .
[14:01] <usr13> ShapeShifter499: This is a laptop?  Right? What is the make and model?
[14:03] <usr13> thufir_: Did you boot normal or text mode?
[14:03] <thufir_> why, when I re-installed 11.10 earlier this evening, did the GUI work fine? but, then I re-re-installed 12.10 and cannot get any form of x windows.
[14:04] <thufir_> usr13: I was in text mode and ran ?lightdm? with sudo, and got "cannot display this video mode"
[14:04] <thufir_> usr13: rebooted to text mode again.
[14:04] <krz> anyone know if ubuntu supports the nvidia gtx 680m video cards without any problems?
[14:04] <usr13> thufir_: Boot normal mode and go to tty6  Ctrl-Alt-F6
[14:04] <bekks> !hcl | krz
[14:05] <thufir_> usr13: when do I press ctrl-alt-F6?
[14:05] <chaospsychex> can someone help me add a --newmode to xrandr ?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> chaospsychex, check your package manager to be sure xserver-xorg-video-intel driver is installed
[14:05] <chaospsychex> BluesKaj: ok
[14:05] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: It says "Display (Samsung SyncMaster (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA"
[14:05] <thufir_> LOL. usr13 is busy tonight :)
[14:06] <thufir_> where is user14, I say.
[14:06] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Looks like you will need to use the open-source driver.  Again, what is your hardware?
[14:07] <usr13> thufir_: After it boots up.
[14:07] <krz> bekks: a bit outdates
[14:07] <krz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[14:08] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, a 9600gt. The hardware is supported and working properly. The reason why it states that it doesn't support it, is because I didn't install the kernel header sources.
[14:08] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Oh.  Well, why not?
[14:08] <Surkow|laptop> after removing the nvidia drivers and reinstalling the kernel headers the nvidia drivers were able to compile a kernel module
[14:09] <Surkow|laptop> prior to this, they were not able to do that
[14:09] <bekks> krz: Then you have to look up the version of the nvidia drivers you are going to use on packages.ubuntu.com and take a look at the official readme of nvidia for that particular version to see wether it supports your card or not.
[14:09] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: very good.
[14:09] <krz> bekks: that just blew me away
[14:09] <krz> im lost
[14:10] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, unity (with compositing) works without glitches and is fast. Hardware acceleration with VDPAU works as well. The issue remains that gnome fallback session doesn't want to load compiz. Perhaps I should try metacity.
[14:11] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Yea, sounds like it is a problem with ghome or compiz.
[14:11] <krz> bekks: couldn't you have just said to google it: https://www.google.com/search?q=nvidia%20680m%20ubuntu
[14:11] <Surkow|laptop> sadly enough I encountered nvidia driver issues on all computers I have. Ubuntu 12.10 seems to be missing kernel header sources. This means anyone with an nvidia card cannot use the proprietary drivers
[14:11] <bekks> krz: Saying to just google is pretty unhelpful, pointing to the places where to get which information is much more helpful.
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> Surkow|laptop  yeah, Linus already gave nvidia 'the finger' for that
[14:11] <Surkow|laptop> at every kernel upgrade I will have to manually install new kernel headers
[14:11] <Surkow|laptop> sigh
[14:12] <chaospsychex> i installed the xorg-xserver-video-intel and still no success. 1280x1024 is not showing up
[14:12] <BluesKaj> chaospsychex, did you reboot ?
[14:12] <krz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/147576/cant-install-gtx-680-drivers-on-12-04 seems useful
[14:12] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Yep looks like you are right:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10
[14:12] <chaospsychex> BluesKaj: yes
[14:12] <bekks> Surkow|laptop: Which is not true for me. Having two computers with nvidia, I literally NEVER experienced any problems until now.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> chaospsychex, you could try the xswat ppa driver , scroll halfway to find the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/200995/is-it-possible-to-update-my-graphic-card-drivers
[14:15] <usr13> chaospsychex: Are you the one I was talking to earlier?  (thufir_)
[14:15] <thufir_> usr13: when I rebooted, as before, I get a brief view of "xubuntu" then it flashes between that and "cannot display this video mode".
[14:15] <chaospsychex> usr13: i don't think so
[14:16] <usr13> chaospsychex: Ok yea.
[14:16]  * thufir_ is patient, as usr13 seems the only guru available.  no worries.
[14:16] <usr13> !nomodeset |thufir
[14:17] <usr13> thufir_: I don't know if that's it or not, just guessing here....
[14:17] <thufir_> usr13: I'll check out the man page, easier to read.
[14:17] <Surkow|laptop> bekks, I never experienced issues before 12.10. I manage computers for my family and suddenly only nouveau worked. It seems like a packaging issue in ubuntu.
[14:17] <usr13> thufir_: service lightdm status   #what does that say?
[14:17] <thufir_> usr13: good to know. thanks for the disclusure.
[14:18] <usr13> thufir_: service lightdm status   #Tell us what does that says.
[14:19] <thufir_> usr13: lightdm stop/waiting.  last time it did the same as graphical boot.
[14:19] <usr13> thufir_: Did you boot to text mode again?
[14:19] <thufir_> usr13: yes, as that's my only option at the moment.
[14:20] <thufir_> I can't find a man page about nomodeset
[14:20] <usr13> thufir_: Why didn't you do as I asked?
[14:20] <usr13> thufir_: There is no manpage for nomodeset
[14:20] <lolkuro> What's the latest release of Ubuntu like? I've been an on-again-off-again user.
[14:20] <thufir_> usr13: I tried the graphical boot, but it just flasheed between "xubuntu" and "cannot display...". pardon?
[14:20] <usr13> thufir_: Or did you?  Did you go to tty6 and read the log file?
[14:21] <Joe1> Does anyone have any idea what the file "/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/arp_ignore" does?
[14:21] <thufir_> which log file?
[14:21] <usr13> thufir_: I told you to do Ctrl-Alt-F6  and look at the logfile.
[14:21] <bekks> Joe1: It tells you wether eth0 accepts ARP requests for IPv4
[14:21] <usr13> thufir_: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:21] <thufir_> hmm.  when do I press ctrl-alt-f6?
[14:21] <bekks> Joe1: Just use cat on it.
[14:21] <usr13> thufir_: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:22] <usr13> thufir_: After it gets done booting.
[14:22] <kaar> Is there a way unzip a zip file with installing unzip. I meen by using gzip or any other tool
[14:22] <lolkuro> Guys?
[14:22] <Joe1> bekks: thanks! I see a '1' in it. Does that mean that arp is disabled on eth0?
[14:22] <thufir_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/147563   hey, log isn't empty now!  progress :)
[14:23] <usr13> thufir_: ONce it's all booted up, do Ctrl-Alt-F6  and login.
[14:23] <thufir_> ok, before rebooting, would you look at the log pls?
[14:23] <lolkuro> What's ubuntu 12 like? Has anything sped up since Ubuntu 9 [last time i used linux]
[14:23] <bekks> Joe1: I'd have to look it up in the kernel documentation, I dont know it off hand.
[14:23] <cfhowlett> lolkuro: off-topic as this is the support channel.
[14:23] <BluesKaj> kaar, try unp
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !ot|lolkuro
[14:24] <usr13> thufir_: That'
[14:24] <lolkuro> Oh. sorry.. sheesh, don't go batshit on me
[14:24] <usr13> thufir_: That's not the log file.
[14:24] <Surkow|laptop> lolkuro, it's just a high volume channel. I frequently get warnings about using enter as punctuation. Don't take it personally ;)
[14:24] <thufir_> usr13: oh?  err. Xorg.0.log yes?
[14:25] <usr13> thufir_: How are you talking to us now?  On another computer or....?
[14:25] <thufir_> usr13: only the one computer. so I'm in text still.  will reboot in a moment, just wanted your feedback on that log, but you say it's not the correct log..?
[14:26] <Joe1> bekks: cool, found it online. thanks!
[14:27] <usr13> thufir_: Reboot, and you will have 6 ttys to use,  First go to tty6 and then you can go to the one next door, (tty5) by holding Atl and hitting left-arrow  You can bring up irssi on one console if need be.
[14:27] <bekks> Joe1: You're welcome. :)
[14:27] <thufir_> usr13: irssi?
[14:27] <kaar> BluesKaj: Dident have that one installed eather. Cant install as my user im loged in to is not sudo. will have to ssh with another user and install unzip
[14:27] <usr13> thufir_: What irc client are you using now?
[14:28] <thufir_> finch.  it's text version of pidgin.  I see, irssi is an IRC client?
[14:28] <usr13> thufir_: Ok, that's ok.
[14:28] <usr13> just use it.
[14:28] <thufir_> usr13: ok, rebooting again. thx.  pardon misunderstanding.  I thought it was hooped, but you say it will give me tty's, so I'll do that. bye.
[14:28] <kaar> thufir_: use irssi with screen
[14:28] <usr13> thufir_: But you need to run the Xserver so we can see what is going on.
[14:29] <usr13> kaar: Good, yes.
[14:30] <Ronalds_M> Hi, ubuntu folks :>
[14:30] <kaar> hi :) Ronalds_M
[14:31] <Ronalds_M> anybody knows how to change default keyboard keys for ctrl-alt-delete, cause right not it logouts to shell
[14:31] <Ronalds_M> I tried keyboard shortcuts in settings
[14:32] <Ronalds_M> but disabling didn't work out
[14:32] <usr13> Ronalds_M: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and then Ctrl-Alt-Delete
[14:33] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: why do you want to change it, i can't recall the last time i ever needed to use it
[14:33] <Ronalds_M> sorry, ctrl alt f4
[14:33] <Ronalds_M> when I press it, it goes in shell
[14:33] <usr13> Ronalds_M: Then do,  Ctrl-Alt-Delete   to reboot
[14:33] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: of course it does, thats the tty
[14:34] <Ronalds_M> can I disable this?
[14:34] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: why?
[14:34] <usr13> Ronalds_M: What is your end goal?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Ronalds_M, that's what ctrl+alt+F4 is supposed to do..a shell/TTY
[14:34] <Ronalds_M> ok
[14:34] <usr13> Ronalds_M: Ctrl-Alt-F6 goes to tty6  Ctrl-Alt-F5 goes to tty5  etc. etc.
[14:35] <thufir_> usr13: ok, long story. there are two hard drives, two linux installs.  I'm on 11.10 linux, works fine.  booted into it by accident.  12.10 is on the other hard drive.  (this hdd will get formatted once I get 12.10 working properly.)    while I'm a working GUI and so forth, anything I should do?
[14:35] <thufir_> at least I can sync my firefox settings while I'm here, which I forgot to do earlier.
[14:36] <usr13> thufir_: Yea, boot the other HD, go to tty6 use screen and open irssi, look at log file, etc...  Let's see what is going ot.
[14:36] <usr13> *on
[14:36] <thufir_> usr13: ok.  few minutes while I futz with firefox pls. thanks for help.
[14:37] <usr13> thufir_: Ok
[14:37] <Ronalds_M> how to disable showing mounted hard drives
[14:37] <Ronalds_M> on 12.04 I could do that with ubuntu tweak
[14:37] <Ronalds_M> maybe in compiz?
[14:37] <kelvinella> hi i am running ubuntu 10.10, should i upgrade it to 12.04 or clean install to 12.04?
[14:37] <usr13> Ronalds_M: On the desktop?
[14:37] <verd> dr_willis: are you still around? I have one more question: I have the 11.04 installation mentioned earlier now updated to a sort-of-working 11.10. should the update-manager now offer a "regular" update to 12.04?
[14:37] <Ronalds_M> on unity sidebar
[14:37] <ThinkT510> kelvinella: clean install
[14:37] <kelvinella> and can i upgrade it thru the 12.04 iso usb stick?
[14:38] <k1l_> kelvinella: clean install will be faster
[14:38] <bekks> kelvinella: You have to upgrade to 11.04 then to 11.10 and then to 12.04
[14:38] <bekks> kelvinella: A direct update is not possible.
[14:38] <thufir_> usr13: ok, rebooting
[14:38] <thiebaude> kelvinella, i usally do a clean install
[14:38] <kelvinella> ok
[14:38] <thiebaude> :)
[14:38] <k1l_> kelvinella: no, there is no direct upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04  you need to do every single upgrade inbetween
[14:38] <usr13> kelvinella: If you have /home on separate partition, yea, just do clean install and leave the /home/ parition alone, use same user name.  If not, backup /home/ files
[14:38] <TheBase> Hello
[14:38] <kelvinella> so i have to reinstall virtualbox, etc..... :(
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  fresh install is faster, cleaner and easier, don't forget to backup first, if you don't have a separate /home partition
[14:39] <k1l_> kelvinella: next time you want to not_upgrade for a long time better start with a LTS version
[14:39] <thiebaude> k1l_, thats what i do, lts
[14:39] <usr13> kelvinella: Yea, when you install 12.04, you will be on LTS.
[14:39] <thiebaude> upgrade every 5 yrs
[14:39] <kelvinella> i didnt update so long coz the unity
[14:40] <kelvinella> i thought i wait for it to mature then i can upgrade but i was wrong
[14:40] <ThinkT510> kelvinella: you can use other desktop environments
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  workaround: create a manual list of the programs you want to install, then, after upgrade, type sudo apt-get install [that list]
[14:41] <usr13> kelvinella: You CAN upgrade but you have to do it incrementally
[14:42] <usr13> kelvinella: But it is much easier to cut to the chase and just install 12.04.
[14:42] <usr13> kelvinella:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:43] <vladimir_> hi guys ... digital piano(keyboard) software... any advice please?
[14:43] <vladimir_> usb piano
[14:43] <Ronalds_M> I don't understand that webapps integration thingy
[14:43] <Ronalds_M> it's just bookmark shortcuts in panel?
[14:44] <thufir_> usr13: ok, tried that.  ctrl-alt-f6 would flash text, but then back to "cannot display.." so I rebooted to ubuntu 12.04 on the other hard drive.  GUI works fine from here.  gotta be a setting.
[14:45] <usr13> thufir_: Did you try F5 or F4?
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> Ronalds_M  if at first, you don't understand it, skip it and get used to other parts of the system
[14:47] <Squall5668> Quick question: nework manager stores connections in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections but where does it store the part that sets a connection to "auto connect"? (yes, wireless autoconnection problems after 12.10 upgrade)
[14:47] <thufir_> usr13: I tried them all
[14:47] <usr13> thufir_: Let me ask you this;  At what point does the display quit working, (during the boot process -- what does it say).
[14:48] <elx> guys im trying to shrink one of the partitions of my hdd but it gives me error
[14:48] <elx> I unmounted it
[14:48] <elx> the partition
[14:49] <thufir_> usr13: ok, it boots (I wrote splash noisy in grub), and I see "ubuntu ..." at some point. then I see "xubuntu" and it looks good. then, suddenly, it oscilates between xubuntu splash or loading screen and "cannot display" until resolves to "cannot display".
[14:49] <elx> i also switched the swap partition
[14:50] <Sven_vB> can someone estimate how long an AMD Athlon II CPU can run at 127 deg C (260 deg F) before it would affect desktop programs?
[14:51] <elx> does anybody have any idea or is there somewhere else that i should be asking these kinda questions?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> !details | elx
[14:51] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, or before the system self-immolates
[14:51] <thufir_> usr13: make sense?
[14:52] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, 127C is very hot for that CPU, i think your system will fry if left at that level.
[14:52] <thiebaude> ^^
[14:52] <KeyboardNotFound> i has turn off my computer direct from outlet, and after again turn on i have some problems, my computer is scanned and i don't know what other, but i has cancel my scanning in boot mode, can i scan computer for errors in normal mode ?
[14:52] <thufir_> usr13: I can give output for **working** x settings from the **good** 12.04 install. will that help?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> elx, what app /dev/system are you using to edit your partitions?
[14:52] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, and it'll fry or shut itself off long before your graphical applications start to not work.,
[14:52] <elx> ubottu, im using ubuntu 11.10, i have 2 partitions on the main one i have ubuntu installed and on the seconde one i have my extra data
[14:52] <elx> i want to shrink the second partition so i can make a new partition and install windows 8 on it
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> elx  11.10 is too old, it's called !eol
[14:53] <elx> BluesKaj, I m using Gparted
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> elx  11.10 is no longer in use or supported
[14:53] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, i thougt the same, but it's running at that for over 4 weeks now (with short pauses - when i reboot it, reported temperature gets about 30 deg C for about 10 min, before jumping back to 127 deg C in less than 1 sec).
[14:53] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, thatr
[14:53] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, that's why i'm asking for an estimate time ;)
[14:54] <KeyboardNotFound> !gparted | elx
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, i'd set a processing speed cap then.
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, i'd cap your processor at half speed for both cores then, it should reduce your temp.  as for estimated time of running, that's not able to be directly estimated.
[14:54] <KeyboardNotFound> elx i think gparted can help you
[14:54] <elx> ubottu, i already have it installed and im using it to shrink one of the partitions
[14:55] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, my advice though: cap your processor speeds at half for all cores, and figure out whether your cooling solution is actually working, i think your fan isn't working or  your heat sink is dust clogged or something.
[14:55] <elx> but it fails when i shrink the partition
[14:55] <TheLordOfTime> 127C isn't normal for that CPU, unless you're driving the graphics to insanity.
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> elx  ubottu is a (ro)bot
[14:55] <TheLordOfTime> s/graphics/processor/
[14:55] <BluesKaj> elx , i think the gparted live cd would be a better method
[14:56] <elx> MonkeyDust, yes just realized lol...
[14:56] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, i'd expect your system to self-immolate pretty soon, either the CPU will burn or something else will be fried or melted.  best to take cutback actions on the thing now and prep to replace either the cooling solution, the processor, or both.
[14:56] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, mutter --replace gave me my window manager controls back
[14:56] <Surkow|laptop> but compiz still refuses to work in gnome fallback session
[14:57] <KeyboardNotFound> elx, i agree with BluesKaj, try gparted live cd - > http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[14:57] <elx> Guys Gpart generate a .html for "Extra" details regarding the failure
[14:57] <elx> would you like to have a look at it?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> Surkow|laptop  fallback will no longer be in the next release, better get used to something else
[14:58] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, it's idle. as i said, when i reboot freshly, it's about 30 deg C, then after some time jumps (in less than 1 second) to 127 and stays there. i'll check inside later... just wanted to verify beforehand that other also think "pretty soon" as the time of visible effects if the reported temperature was correct.
[14:58] <Sven_vB> so in that regard, thank you. :)
[14:58] <TheLordOfTime> Sven_vB, if its instantly jumping, that would suggest something's putting your processor at max, or the temperature sensor is broken.
[15:00] <Sven_vB> TheLordOfTime, i suspect a bug in acpi, since the load shown in htop or uptime is low all the time.
[15:00] <thufir_> usr13: ?
[15:02] <Sven_vB> it was just if someone said "well it can work for a few weeks but reduces overall lifespan", then i had hurried verfifying hardware facts
[15:04] <hackermind> porra
[15:07] <soee> hi, any idea what am i missing here: http://paste.kde.org/633152/ ?
[15:08] <papna> I have a process that is messing up my computer. I would like to kill it and tried to go to tty1, but my ttys won't come up
[15:08] <verd> soee: some kde development packages perhaps
[15:08] <papna> I seem to remember there was something to do to make it try harder, but I don't remember what.
[15:09] <streulma> hello, does someone run iTunes in Wine ?
[15:10] <medo> Reading package lists... Error!
[15:10] <medo> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[15:10] <medo> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_quantal_partner_i18n_Translation-en%5fCA
[15:10] <medo> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[15:11] <medo> this message appear to me when i trying to install any program
[15:12] <medo> what can i do?
[15:13] <thufir_> ubuntu 12.04 boots fine:  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235   but 12.10 won't load the GUI correctly.  The x logs are in the link.  what's the problem?
[15:13] <medo> hello !
[15:14] <medo> what can i do pleas ?
[15:14] <thufir_> medo: hi
[15:14] <BluesKaj> medo , your sources.list looks like it needs editing , the partm=ners repos is missing a header
[15:14] <BluesKaj> partners
[15:15] <thufir_> Segmentation fault at address 0x0 for http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235.   why the seg fault?  I don't see what causes that problem with X windows.
[15:17] <hackermind> hey guys
[15:18] <BluesKaj> medo,  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[15:22] <GINO> ciao
[15:22] <GINO> !list
[15:22] <yeats> BluesKaj: that's a cool page!  There should definitely be a similar tool "officially" available.
[15:23] <BluesKaj> yeats, I just hope a new sources.list solves his problem
[15:23] <rincewind> is anybody else having problems with ntfs in 12.10?
[15:24] <yeats> !anyone | rincewind
[15:24] <BluesKaj> rincewind, ntfs on ?
[15:25] <rincewind> usb devices, memory sticks, external hard drives
[15:26] <thufir_> Segmentation fault at address 0x0 for http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235.   why the seg fault?  I don't see what causes that problem with X windows.
[15:27] <BluesKaj> rincewind, tell us your problems with ntfs
[15:27] <rincewind> BluesKaj: after copying files onto these devices, i get nfs errors when i plug in the device again
[15:28] <dawkirst> Hi everyone, I've just installed Ubuntu (so I'm brand new to Ubuntu and Linux). I seemingly can't get my wifi to work. I'm lost for clues. I've googled around, but I can't quite glean what I need to. Anyone in here willing to point me in the right direction?
[15:29] <rincewind> BluesKaj: i'm only getting this problem with 12.10. my 11.10 machine is fine
[15:29] <BluesKaj> rincewind, what are the errors ?
[15:30] <rincewind> BluesKaj: besides the errors which i will try to recreate now, the files are gone, but the disk capacity is reduced
[15:30] <speard> how do i get /etc/init/ttyS0.conf to clear my terminal before running getty?
[15:31] <speard> exec clear or exec clear_console does not work
[15:31] <The_Sleeples_One> hi
[15:32] <The_Sleeples_One> I managed to somehow make my appearance settings disappear
[15:32] <The_Sleeples_One> so now I do not have the ability to change my appearance settings
[15:32] <speard> i also tried exec clear_console > /dev/ttyS0. this works from a regular root shell but not /etc/init/ttyS0.conf
[15:32] <The_Sleeples_One> I have no idea how it happened
[15:32] <The_Sleeples_One> I was having issues with ntfs-3g driver not allowing write access
[15:33] <The_Sleeples_One> did a bunch of reinstalling of drivers and whatnot
[15:33] <The_Sleeples_One> and bam
[15:33] <The_Sleeples_One> no more appearance settings
[15:34] <b33nj> hi
[15:34] <Vivekananda> My ubuntu always starts with headphone volume maximized and having troubles(orange triangle) with current updates. Ubuntu lucid on a dell old laptop
[15:34] <Vivekananda> hello everyone
[15:35] <b33nj> Vivekananda, hello
[15:35] <Vivekananda> hey there
[15:35] <Vivekananda> b33nj
[15:35] <b33nj> hey
[15:35] <thufir_> how do you change the monitor resolution for 12.10?
[15:36] <The_Sleeples_One> thufir_
[15:36] <The_Sleeples_One> hit the super key (winkey)
[15:36] <b33nj> thufir_, settings > display settings
[15:36] <The_Sleeples_One> yeah, that
[15:36] <icore3> Hello, i have a Problem with Kubuntu. Can i ask in german too? My english is very bad.
[15:36] <thufir_> b33nj: pardon, I meant when you don't have a GUI
[15:36] <rumpe1> icore3, klar
[15:36] <dakotawulfy> hi
[15:36] <icore3> Ok,super.
[15:36] <thufir_> what I mean is, how do you change the monitor resolution, assuming that's causing the seg fault, which prevents the gui from loading?
[15:36] <rincewind> BluesKaj: i tried to copy files to a flash drive to see if i could recreate the errors, the copy quickly completed but the progress is still being shown for more than ten minutes only then finishes
[15:37] <rumpe1> icore3, maybe try #ubuntu-de
[15:37] <b33nj> thufir_, monitor resolution of terminal?
[15:37] <icore3> rumpe1, thank you
[15:37] <thufir_> terminal works fine, gui gives seg fault. presumably it's monitor resolution or other problem.
[15:38] <b33nj> thufir_, then i do not know, have you googled it?
[15:38] <thufir_> other configure I should say.  12.04 on the same hardware works fine, diff hd. but 12.10 gives seg fault.
[15:39] <thufir_> b33nj: thanks.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> rincewind, yes ,copying does take a while ...if the notifier is still open then the copy process is in progress
[15:39] <b33nj> thufir_, have you googled it?
[15:39] <thufir_> b33nj: thank you.
[15:40] <rincewind> BluesKaj: it was small files and it was sitting at 100% for about 6 minutes
[15:40] <b33nj> thufir_, for what?
[15:40] <dawkirst> Anyone?
[15:41] <thufir_> b33nj: I don't know that it's a resolution problem.  I have no idea, I had asked why the segmentation fault, but got no response. I ask how to set the resolution and...never mind.
[15:42] <cler> Hi
[15:42] <cler> I have a question
[15:42] <cler> (Sorry for my bad english)
[15:42] <medo> BluesKaj : pleas tell me the sequences to solve it
[15:43] <rincewind> dawkirst: do "sudo lshw -C network" on the command line and see what wifi chipset you have
[15:43] <thufir_> b33nj: could this be caused by resolution?  seg fault for http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235.
[15:43] <cler> today i wanted to try ubuntu
[15:43] <BluesKaj> medo, just follow the instructions in the page
[15:43] <dawkirst> rincewind, ok will do that shortly (machine is quickly restarting).
[15:43] <cler> it install and all is normally
[15:44] <cler> but the wlan does not work
[15:44] <BluesKaj> !pm | medo
[15:44] <rincewind> cler: ask your question, see if somebody answers
[15:44] <dawkirst> rincewind, from previous Googling and mucking around in the terminal I've seen it is a Ralink RT2500.
[15:44] <cler> it install and all is normally
[15:44] <cler> but the wlan does not work
 ok
[15:44] <The_Sleeples_One> I have an issue that I wanna resolve D:
[15:44] <cler> i have an acer aspire 5742g with boraodcom
[15:44] <ThinkT510> !b43 | cler
[15:45] <dawkirst> rincewind, but I'll double check and let you konw.
[15:45] <TheBase> Hello. I can't get my DVD driver to work. It's not being listed on "wodim --devices", "lshw" or "dmesg". It's as if the drivers were removed from the kernel. Would that be possible? I'm running 12.04 (tried 3.2 and 2.6 kernel)
[15:45] <The_Sleeples_One> my appearance settings disappeared after fixing an ntfs-3g issue
[15:45] <cler> it is easy? im a noob in linux :D
[15:45] <rincewind> cler: sudo lshw -C network -- then look at wifi chipset
[15:45] <yeats> The_Sleeples_One: can you elaborate on what is meant by "did a bunch of reinstalling of drivers and whatnot"?  what did you actually do?
[15:46] <cler> nothing...i dont know what i can do
[15:46] <sporkboy> okay, so here's my problem du jour. for whatever reason, on every boot I have to  $sudo modprobe b43 to get wifi. how do I make it do this on boot? it's only blacklisted in one file, and commenting the line there doesn't change anything.
[15:46] <rincewind> cler: what was the ouput?
[15:46] <cler> i try it once more
[15:46] <cler> no output
[15:46] <cler> better i try it once more
[15:47] <cler> which server would be needed?
[15:47] <cler> i search quickly the vendorid.....
[15:48] <cler> which server would be needed? server......sorry i mean driver
[15:48] <Vivekananda> anyone on that answer ?
[15:48] <thufir_> how do I trace where the Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting error came from? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235
[15:48] <cler> PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_4357&SUBSYS_E021105B&REV_01
[15:48] <cler> this is the vendor
[15:48] <BluesKaj> cler, if the module/driver loads properly there will be no output from the modprobe command
[15:49] <rincewind> cler: if there is no output from "sudo lshw -C network", then you do not have wifi
[15:49] <dakotawulfy> sporkboy
[15:49] <cler> "sudo lshw -C network" should i put this into the terminal?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> er sorry cler I meant sporkboy
[15:50] <dawkirst> rincewind, yes, lshw outputs a RT2500 card (it appears as if cler has the same problem as me). Would you like to see the output on a gist?
[15:50] <cler> wait i come later
[15:51] <cler> i try it once more and i copy the output
[15:51] <oioi2> Hi people
[15:51] <oioi2> Fuckyouman
[15:51] <DJones> oioi2: Do you have any support question?
[15:52] <dawkirst> rincewind, it doesn't pick up any networks though, so I suspect it might be a driver issue. How can I troubleshoot?
[15:52] <cler> i come later
[15:52] <cler> i try it again
[15:52] <cler> bye
[15:52] <oioi2> No
[15:52] <oioi2> Tks
[15:52] <DJones> !coc | oioi2
[15:53] <cler> thanks for help
[15:53] <sporkboy> rincewind, I definitely have wifi, since I'm connected to the internet without a cable. I just want to not have to modprobe it every time I boot up.
[15:54] <The_Sleeples_One> anyone?
[15:54] <The_Sleeples_One> I feel ignored :(
[15:54] <yeats> The_Sleeples_One: did you see my question above?
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> now I did
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> uhm
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> so I installed mtpfs in an attempt to manage files on my Nexus 7
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> didn't work
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> so I did "sudo uninstall fuse mtpfs"
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> it uninstalled fuse
[15:55] <The_Sleeples_One> so I ran "sudo install fuse"
[15:56] <ThinkT510> The_Sleeples_One: it was not a good idea to remove fuse
[15:56] <The_Sleeples_One> err, "sudo remove* fuse mtpfs" my bad
[15:56] <The_Sleeples_One> yeah
[15:56] <The_Sleeples_One> I have since realized that
[15:56] <The_Sleeples_One> I removed and reinstalled ntfs-3g when my write access stopped working
[15:56] <BluesKaj> sporkboy, I suggst you remove the blacklisted entry rather tahn comment it
[15:56] <BluesKaj> than
[15:56] <arooni-mobile> i'm trying to debug a HTTP request.  i *thought* i matched it according to firebug; but when i send it to the server; it seems different.  is there a way to send both requests to a local server so i can see where my problem is?  so i can see the raw request?
[15:57] <The_Sleeples_One> then installed and ran the ntfs configuration tool thing from the software center
[15:57] <The_Sleeples_One> it fixed the issue for me
[15:57] <The_Sleeples_One> but now my appearance settings have disappeared
[15:57] <dawkirst> rincewind, sorry to be bugging you like this, but you seem to have been the only one that replied. Have you got any other advice for me?
[15:57] <thufir_> how do I know whether this xorg error:  Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting  is caused by driver, config or other cause?  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264235
[15:59] <rmoore> i'm trying to get the  nvidia-96 driver to download/install and I keep getting a dialog box indicating that there are package dpendencies that are unresolved/uninstallable
[15:59] <The_Sleeples_One> so the issue is now that my appearance settings are gone
[15:59] <Vivekananda> anyone there who could answer me ? about the volume always max for headphone on reboot?
[15:59] <The_Sleeples_One> when I boot up, it says "system error"
[15:59] <The_Sleeples_One> I presume it has something to do with it
[16:00] <thufir_> rmoore: maybe bad idea, but I believe clobber might fix that. or make it worse.
[16:00] <The_Sleeples_One> Vivekanada
[16:00] <The_Sleeples_One> http://askubuntu.com/questions/172488/volume-control-stopped-working-always-max-voume
[16:00] <The_Sleeples_One> I can reboot my machine, copy the error, and then hop back on here if you think that would help
[16:02] <Mongolski> hej
[16:03] <rmoore> can someone tell me how to execute a .run file?
[16:03] <yeats> rmoore: can you do 'file <filename>'? on the file (replacing <filename> with the actual .run file's name)
[16:05] <The_Sleeples_One> eh?
[16:05] <The_Sleeples_One> should I restart and copy the "system error" that pops up?
[16:05] <thefoxrat> so i really need some help
[16:05] <The_Sleeples_One> also, my ntfs partitions are automatically mounting on boot
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> thefoxrat  start with a question
[16:06] <compdoc> I think its really wierd that ppl start a sentence with 'so'
[16:06] <thefoxrat> ok, so I just installed Ubuntu via wubi on my other pc. After the first reboot, it worked fine. I restarted again and I don't even get POST. My monitor goes to power save mode as well. Any help
[16:06] <b33nj> compdoc, why?
[16:07] <compdoc> sounds odd. Ppl on tv and radio and here online all do it
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> thefoxrat  wubi is a testing enverinment, better install ubuntu on its own partition, next to windows
[16:07] <BluesKaj> compdoc, so what ? :)
[16:07] <b33nj> compdoc, why do you watch tv? that is a waste of time
[16:08] <thefoxrat> Ok, but my main issue is that I can't even boot into windows. When I power on my pc, it turns on but it doesn't seem to boot at all
[16:09] <bekks> thefoxrat: Then it is an issue for #hardware or ##windows more likely.
[16:10] <b33nj> bekks, what #windows on a linux channel is for?
[16:10] <mike_papa> Hello. I've got problem with accessing shared scanner. I have HP LaserJet 3055 (all in one) connected to rasberrypi, and sane setup there. On rasberry scanimale -L returns correct device. sane-port is in the /etc/services. On Ubuntu box /etc/sane.d/net.conf has line with rasberry's ip. What else I need to do?
[16:11] <bekks> b33nj: It was a suggestion to ask in another channel because a) his computer isnt booting at all and b) he is using wubi so windows has to be working before he gets to Ubuntu at all.
[16:11] <thefoxrat> I guess I just figured that because before Ubuntu install my pc was fine and after, it is not, that it was an ubuntu problem
[16:11] <txomon> can anyone tell me when will ubuntu have in any of its repo apache version 2.4
[16:11] <txomon> ?
[16:11] <txomon> I can't find it even in raring...
[16:11] <b33nj> okay
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> !latest | txomon
[16:12] <Muphrid> txomon: when debian packages it
[16:13] <theadmin> I have a line saying "* hard fsize 10240" in my /etc/security/limits.conf, however I have successfully created a file of size 15M just now (using a simple dd command). Am I doing something wrong?
[16:17] <JPMH> I used to use gnome-session-save --force-logout to force a session end.  How do I do the same under 12.04 with unity?
[16:17] <theadmin> Err. Never mind. A reboot helped.
[16:20] <theadmin> JPMH: Same -- Unity is just an interface for GNOME.
[16:23] <The_Sleeples_One> Unity sucks imo
[16:23] <The_Sleeples_One> it would be kinda awesome if it wasn't really slow
[16:23] <The_Sleeples_One> Gnome<3
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> The_Sleeples_One  unity is a gnome3 shell
[16:24] <DJones> The_Sleeples_One: Thats the good thing about linux, you have the option of using it or not
[16:25] <The_Sleeples_One> DJones indeed
[16:25] <The_Sleeples_One> I'm not trying to hate on Unity or anything
[16:25] <The_Sleeples_One> but it really lagged on my machine :/
[16:25] <The_Sleeples_One> I was looking forward to giving it a chance, but I couldn't deal with the lag
[16:26] <skp1> The_Sleeples_One: your a hater
[16:27] <xomniverse> this may sound like a dumb question but; is there any difference between Xubuntu and Linux Mint Xfce apart from appearance and maybe different default apps?
[16:28] <DaRmAr> how to set up the F buttons for bans on xchat?
[16:28] <ThinkT510> xomniverse: mint isn't supported here
[16:29] <souliaq> Annoying "403 - Forbidden" in a folder with 777 permissions (lighttpd in Ubuntu 12.04)
[16:29] <theadmin> souliaq: Possibly you don't have a module loaded that's necessary for the interpretation of this folder's "index" file
[16:29] <linxeh> souliaq: there are lots of causes of 403 - you might need to check the error log to see why
[16:30] <souliaq> theadmin, the problem is this works with /var/www
[16:30] <souliaq> I need a simple file server, you know someone even more simple?
[16:30] <linxeh> souliaq: the chances are you have missed a directive for your other folder that enables indexes; you need an options declaration with an "indexes"
[16:30] <souliaq> This is taking too long.
[16:31] <txomon> Muphrid, debian did
[16:31] <txomon> MonkeyDust, stability in ubuntu is relative
[16:31] <souliaq> are you tried "Bozotic HTTP server"?
[16:32] <linxeh> souliaq: oh lighttd, my bad, ignore my options/indexes statement - you need the lighttd equivalent of that :o
[16:32] <souliaq> ok
[16:32] <Muphrid> txomon: it is in experimental, raring merges from unstable, when it hits unstable then raring when merge it
[16:32] <theadmin> souliaq: server.dir-listing = "enable" in /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf
[16:32] <linxeh> souliaq: I'd go with lighttd or apache - something tried and tested and secure
[16:33] <txomon> Muphrid, ok
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> souliaq  http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20121224053900277/LightweightWebServers.html
[16:35] <bomber> ciao
[16:37] <bomber> !list
[16:37] <zoogoo> hello
[16:37] <zoogoo> hey hey hey
[16:38] <alimj> Hello. I have two old USB Wifi G adapters. -- lsusb says they are: 09aa:1000 Intersil Corp. Prism GT 802.11b/g Adapter
[16:38] <bomber> ?list
[16:38] <alimj> ... and uname says: 3.2.0-35-generic
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> !it | bomber
[16:38] <alimj> Does anyone know a working driver?
[16:39] <alimj> P.S.: They are compex WLU54G
[16:44] <Blop123> hello everybody, I m using *buntu 12.10 dual boot with win8. both system share a quite big partition. after moving some files around i am left with several corrupted ones. When trying to delete them I receive the following error message "No such file or directory". Any suggestions on how to solve this?
[16:44] <theadmin> Blop123: How exactly are you deleting them?
[16:45] <Blop123> first i tried the graphical way through thunar, and then via the terminal (sudo rm -f file)
[16:45] <Blop123> neither one worked
[16:45] <atriani> judo en pv
[16:45] <theadmin> Blop123: Does the filename have weird charactrers like spaces or whatever?
[16:46] <bekks> Blop123: Then check using ls -lha wether the file still exists.
[16:46] <souliaq> How I can check with Ubuntu, what service locks specified TCP port?
[16:46] <Blop123> yes spaces, hence when deleting i use A\ B\ ...
[16:46] <Blop123> it still exists but not in that folder\
[16:46] <bekks> souliaq: sudo lsof -i or sudo netstat -tulpen
[16:47] <theadmin> Blop123: Err... Well, if it's not in "that" folder then change to whatever folder it is in
[16:47] <BluesKaj> !fr | atriani
[16:47] <finegansworld> Can someone tell me where the file for display settings is on Xubuntu 12.10?  There is no xorg.conf file.  I can make changes to some file using the settings editor, but I don't know what file it's modifying.
[16:48] <Blop123> bekks: it seems to still exist
[16:49] <theadmin> finegansworld: You can make an xorg.conf if you feel it's necessary.
[16:50] <finegansworld> theadmin: Well it seems that the settings editor is modifying some file, do you know what file that is modifying
[16:50] <finegansworld> ?
[16:50] <theadmin> finegansworld: Not really, but it obviously isn't anything under /etc because it doesn't run as root...
[16:51] <Blop123> theadmin: what i meant is that the original file has been moved to another folder, now i am trying to delete a "relic" file that stayed there for some reason
[16:52] <theadmin> Blop123: Hm... Well. Maybe it's not a file but a link? Try "unlink something"
[16:52] <theadmin> Blop123: (where 'something' is the filename)
[16:52] <Blop123> using bekks command i found out that it is still there (also rw), but can t be read
[16:52] <Blop123> it s not a link, i checked by deleting the original file
[16:53] <atriani> all my excuses
[16:53] <Blop123> according to the size and properties it looks like the original but unaccessible
[16:53] <finegansworld> Yeah, maybe that's why the settings don't stay when I re-boot.  That's the main thing, I want my resolution to stay the same when I reboot my machine.
[16:54] <theadmin> Blop123: Ah what the hell. echo a > something (to overwrite the file), then delete what that creates.
[16:54] <WeThePeople> how to remove the lock on a .sh
[16:54] <alexit> IS anyone available to help me to enable the backlight keyboard on my laptopt  ASUS N56VZ ? I'm running ubuntu 12.10
[16:54] <Blop123> i ll give it a try thanks
[16:58] <finegansworld> theadmin:  Would you recommend that I just make a xorg.conf file?
[16:58] <theadmin> finegansworld: Yeah I guess so
[16:59] <usr13> WeThePeople: lock?
[16:59] <bomber> ciao
[16:59] <bomber> !list
[16:59] <WeThePeople> usr13, you know the picture of a lock
[16:59] <WeThePeople> i think i have to chmod but not sure
[16:59] <usr13> WeThePeople: sudo chown WeThePeople .sh
[17:00] <WeThePeople> ok thanks
[17:00] <usr13> WeThePeople: Where WeThePeople is your actual user name on the system.
[17:00] <WeThePeople> usr13, idk
[17:00] <WeThePeople> the su auth. is failing though
[17:01] <usr13> WeThePeople: Are you logged in as Guest?
[17:01] <WeThePeople> usr13, no
[17:01] <usr13> WeThePeople: What happens when you try to use sudo?
[17:02] <carcinogen_75> Whats better to use: sudo -s or sudo -i ???
[17:02] <HackerII> cool nic
[17:02] <WeThePeople> usr13, sometimes it works
[17:02] <alexit> IS anyone available to help me to enable the backlight keyboard on my laptopt  ASUS N56VZ ? I'm running ubuntu 12.10
[17:02] <alexit> IS anyone available to help me to enable the backlight keyboard on my laptopt  ASUS N56VZ ? I'm running ubuntu 12.10
[17:02] <usr13> carcinogen_75: sudo -i
[17:02] <carcinogen_75> Thx
[17:03] <usr13> WeThePeople: What do you mean sometimes?   It either works or it doesn't.  Let's do a little test;  open a terminal and do: ls -l ~/home |pastebinit
[17:03] <usr13> WeThePeople: And send resulting URL
[17:03] <Blop123> theadmin: only result from the command line: bash: file: Input/output error
[17:04] <usr13> WeThePeople: (If it tells you to install pastebinit, do it.
[17:04] <theadmin> Blop123: Bah. Okay, no idea
[17:04] <WeThePeople> usr13, it says cannot access
[17:04] <WeThePeople> no sudo
[17:05] <WeThePeople> usr13, ^^
[17:06] <usr13> WeThePeople: who |pastebinit
[17:06] <usr13> WeThePeople: Oh you can't install pastebinit, sorry.
[17:06] <Blop123> theadmin: jejeje ok thanks anyway ；-）
[17:06] <Blop123> last resort format
[17:07] <theadmin> WeThePeople: who | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[17:07] <usr13> WeThePeople: What is the user name? Issue command who and tell us what it says.
[17:07] <Parkman> Hello, I am using windows to make a partition for ubuntu, what format should I make that partition for ubuntu installing?
[17:07] <theadmin> Parkman: Ext4. But Windows doesn't deal with normal filesystems.
[17:07] <usr13> WeThePeople: Yea, do as theadmin said.
[17:07] <WeThePeople> theadmin, what does that do?
[17:07] <theadmin> Parkman: You should use Ubuntu to install it
[17:07] <theadmin> WeThePeople: Alternative to pastebinit
[17:08] <theadmin> WeThePeople: Curl comes preinstalled, so...
[17:08] <Picto> Hello
[17:08] <WeThePeople> thats cool
[17:08] <Parkman> Alright, so what should I do to install it? leave it unallocated?
[17:08] <Parkman> and then
[17:08] <BluesKaj> Parkman, suggest you DL inand burn to cd or other media , gparted live for editing partitions
[17:09] <Parkman> alright, then i can make it ext4 from one of those programs?
[17:09] <SunMoonStar> Anyone here use Google app engine? What path do you place it in? Should I keep it in /var/www with rest of my web stuff or in home or other?
[17:09] <Picto> I need install Window XP, but Ubuntu remove driver SATA, how i can install driver SATA por Window XP? (sorry i speak spanish)
[17:09] <Picto> for*
[17:09] <Muphrid> Parkman: you can boot it via live usb and partition via GParted, or directly in the installer
[17:10] <Parkman> ohh, perfect! I will just use it directly in the installer.
[17:10] <WeThePeople> theadmin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1476311/
[17:10] <Parkman> Thanks a ton!
[17:10] <theadmin> WeThePeople: "su" is unusable on Ubuntu
[17:11] <WeThePeople> ok
[17:11] <usr13> WeThePeople: You have to use sudo
[17:11] <Picto> pls help, i need driver SATA
[17:11] <Picto> or run program "HDD Regenator" for Ubuntu
[17:11] <compdoc> sudo su work for me, but it might be because I changed my sudoers file
[17:12] <jrib> compdoc: don't use sudo su :/
[17:12] <usr13> compdoc: No, it just works, but best to just do  sudo -i
[17:13] <compdoc> its very rare I need to be root, but its happened
[17:13] <Parkman> Thanks guys, this is why I love the linux community!
[17:13] <usr13> WeThePeople: Can you pastebin the results of   ls -l ~/   ?
[17:13] <jrib> compdoc: that's fine.  You still shouldn't do "sudo su" to achieve it though
[17:13] <WeThePeople> usr13, no it worked though
[17:14] <usr13> Ok.
[17:14] <justasking> hey guys, I'm having a problem with my newest fresh install (Ubuntu 12.10), while partitioning the hard drive, unity-greeter crashes
[17:15] <LambdaMutt> (I apologize for the spurious connects / disconnects. I'm trying to configure XChat and it seems to connect here 'out of the box.)
[17:15] <justasking> and the same error lines keep repeating
[17:15] <justasking> in the ouput
[17:15] <justasking> has anyone of you experienced such a problem ?
[17:16] <justasking> I also had the same issue with a 12.04 installation (both amd64)
[17:16] <usr13> justasking: What do you mean "while partitioning the hard drive"?    Have you finished the install yet?
[17:16] <justasking> nope, I already have a debian wheezy installation and just readjust the hard drive's space
[17:16] <justasking> to each disto
[17:18] <freshstart> does anybody know a countdown timer?
[17:18] <usr13> justasking: Can you explain more fully what your situation is?  And what it is you are actually trying to do?
[17:19] <usr13> freshstart: there's ktimer
[17:19] <justasking> I'm currently doing an installation of Ubuntu 12.10
[17:19] <LinuxGuy91> Hello my computer is not working
[17:19] <LinuxGuy91> Hello my computer is not working
[17:19] <LinuxGuy91> Hello my computer is not working
[17:19] <FloodBot1> LinuxGuy91: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <justasking> while the installation window appears and asks me the usual questions about 3rd party software etc ...
[17:20] <Tex_Nick> freshstart : looks like GTimer & GNOME Clocks might work for you
[17:20] <justasking> after readjusting the size of my hard drive
[17:21] <justasking> and press continue, next or whatever
[17:21] <freshstart> Tex_Nick: usr13 :any of them have the ability to show ms?
[17:21] <justasking> an error appers
[17:21] <xangua> !enter | justasking
[17:21] <Lil> LinuxGuy91; Your gonna have to be a little more specific then that.
[17:21] <usr13> justasking: So did you create a couple of new partitions (of adequate size)?
[17:22] <justasking> i keep around 500 for my debian installation and use another 500 for ubuntu
[17:23] <LinuxGuy91> Hello friends
[17:23] <LinuxGuy91> Hello friends
[17:23] <LinuxGuy91> Hello friends
[17:23] <FloodBot1> LinuxGuy91: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <justasking> wait it looks like it started to run smoothly again
[17:24] <usr13> freshstart: http://imagebin.org/240987
[17:25] <usr13> justasking: Can you quote the exact text of the error?
[17:25] <dawkirst> Random question: what is man-db?
[17:25] <justasking> anyway thanks for your time guys ... I nearly missed my latest gentoo and slackware installations, fdisk rocks :P
[17:25] <Muphrid> dawkirst: database of manual pages
[17:25] <Tex_Nick> freshstart: I just installed GNOME Clocks ... it only resolvesto seconds
[17:26] <dawkirst> Muphrid, thanks. I'm brand new to Ubuntu (and Linux), so I suspect I'll be asking more random questions.
[17:26] <usr13> justasking: 500G?  Don't you already have a /home/ paritiion?
[17:26] <Muphrid> dawkirst: this channel is meant for it
[17:26] <Tex_Nick> freshstart : thst's in countdown mode ... in timer mode it resolves to tenths of a second
[17:27] <Muphrid> as long as it is a support question also
[17:27] <dawkirst> Muphrid, good to hear it.
[17:29] <dawkirst> Another random question: what does the source command do? (man source doesn't give me much)
[17:30] <Tex_Nick> freshstart : just installed KTimer that usr13 recommended ... it's nice
[17:31] <freshstart> Tex_Nick: yeah it's nice but doesnt support ms
[17:32] <Muphrid> dawkirst: never heard of it before but fuond this http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdln_source.htm
[17:32] <dawkirst> Muphrid, thanks for that.
[17:32] <Alex12> hi!
[17:32] <Alex12> help plz
[17:32] <Malsasa> Alex12: hi...
[17:32] <skai-falkorr> hi
[17:33] <sda1986> i have a 6core processor. I have to use "DD" can i use "DD" with all cores?
[17:33] <angs> I do not have /proc/bus/usb/devices on my ubuntu 12.04. what is the substitute directory  of that?
[17:33] <Alex12> i need fastest turbo flash player for big fps in video please where and how install it?
[17:34] <skai-falkorr> i have some problem with unity. unity test says http://paste.ubuntu.com/1476368/ , but compiz (core) - Info: Unity is not supported by your hardware. Enabling software rendering instead (slow). intel x4500MHD Ubuntu 12.10. what should i do?
[17:36] <Muphrid> Alex12: is that the name of something? you could increase performance using the flash-aid addon or playing it hardware aceelerated
[17:36] <Muphrid> sda1986: dd is an operation on disks, i doubt the processor plays a big role on it
[17:36] <Alex12> old computer
[17:37] <Muphrid> Alex12: try with flash-aid addon
[17:37] <Alex12> bad video card is bad GPU aceleration
[17:37] <Alex12> me instsll flash-aid?
[17:37] <Muphrid> yes
[17:37] <sda1986> Muphrid, Yea, but I can see I have a core with 100%, I think move data between /dev/urandom to an MD (raid software) could use a bit of processor
[17:39] <Alex12> flash code is open?
[17:39] <Alex12> where can download high version of it?
[17:39] <Alex12> high speed version
[17:40] <bazhang> Alex12, it's adobe so not open. there is no high speed version
[17:40] <Muphrid> Alex12: that addon I told you will download the most appropriate version for your system
[17:41] <Alex12> mupf i need only addon or flash so also?
[17:41] <Muphrid> sda1986: I found no reference to multithreading in dd so I assume you cant
[17:41] <Muphrid> Alex12: the addon will download flash for you and configure it
[17:42] <Alex12> ok
[17:42] <Alex12> how install just in apt-get?
[17:42] <dawkirst> Muphrid, on that note, can you recommend a good overall resource for learning?
[17:43] <Muphrid> dawkirst: learning anything specifically?
[17:43] <bazhang> !manual | dawkirst
[17:44] <Motoservo> I've never setup linux before and now I'm installing Ubuntu for a client side app I need to run on my Mac (via Boot Camp). I'm installing it to a USB stick drive that came formatted as DOS FAT32, is there a preferred (or required) format for Linux?
[17:44] <bazhang> !rute | dawkirst and this
[17:44] <dawkirst> Muphrid, just general usage of Linux, but with the ultimate aim of using it to develop software.
[17:44] <skai-falkorr> no advise for me?
[17:44] <dawkirst> Thanks bazhang.
[17:44] <Alex12> not found