[10:39] <hwt69love> hi
[10:40] <hwt69love> every body
[10:40] <bekks> !details | SalahMessaoud
[10:41] <wilee-nilee> SalahMessaoud, You run lsusb if it is a usb dongle to see the detailed info and looked on the web?
[10:41] <hwt69love> hi,I'm come in
[10:41] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, yep I tried few solutions didnt work
[10:41] <wilee-nilee> SalahMessaoud, It helps to know what you have found out and tried.
[10:42] <SalahMessaoud> bekks, I am runnung Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit I can't see my huawei E372 3g dongle
[10:42] <bekks> SalahMessaoud: You said that. Please do what ubottu told you :)
[10:43] <Galvatron> After playing a Wine game fullscreen my 12.04.3 (kernel 3.8, "Raring" X.org, 7300GT, driver 304.88) started to reset dimpley settings (resolution, refresh rate) after each restart of X.org. I've tried reinstalling the X stack and driver, installing the default kernel and X, removing .config/monitors.xml and nothing. The only "soution" is to use an older Clonezilla image.
[10:43] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6197983/
[10:43] <Blacksheep9> I don't get any sound on my laptop at all. I am running 13.04. I have details of commands such as lspci. I have also tried installing and running ALSAMIXER but it just opens as a blank window. I tried looking up solutions online but its not help to me. Please help!!! SOS.
[10:45] <SalahMessaoud> I have a problem with huawei E372 3G dongle, I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 LTS 32 bit When I try to use it, I get the following output: nothing it is not available in network manager, but I expected it to work"
[10:45] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Can you please post the output from the command: "lspci -v" on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel
[10:45] <SalahMessaoud> :)
[10:45] <Blacksheep9> sure Rory. thanks
[10:46] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, I tried usb_modeswitch solution didnt work
[10:47] <wilee-nilee> SalahMessaoud, This is outside my area of general knowledge, I was just trying to get you to give enough info those that might know can work with.
[10:48] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, ok thank you :)
[10:48] <wilee-nilee> I see people with it working on the web, honestly I would not bother if it did not plug and work myself.
[10:49] <Blacksheep9> No SOUND 13.04 lspci -v results. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6200183/ Rory
[10:50] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, I have no other choice either make it work or suffer from slow connection :D
[10:52] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Does your laptop or motherboard have a make and model?
[10:53] <Blacksheep9> COMPAQ PRESARIO V3500 it says Rory
[10:55] <rodicio> Hi, when i open in Firefox a private wintow, it's open a popup
[10:55] <Svetlana> Hi. What popup?
[10:56] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:56] <RudyValencia> Hi, does the Ubuntu installer use the package settings from the livecd to install the system?
[10:57] <ShapeShifter499> I'm trying to learn spanish and I was wondering how I would type accent marks on various letters on my ubuntu laptop
[10:57] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone here know?
[10:57] <ShapeShifter499> I have a standard US keyboard layout
[10:57] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: on most keyboards you first press the accent and then the letter
[10:57] <ssam> RudyValencia, it copies that installed disk image to your disk, rather individually installing packages
[10:58] <ShapeShifter499> ~n
[10:58] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Please run the command: "gksu gedit /etc/modules" - after entering your password this will open a file in the text editor
[10:58] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Add the line "snd-als100" in new line then save and close the text editor
[10:58] <Blacksheep9> On it
[10:58] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: hmm.. might be another trick to it then.. that works on my keyboard but I'm using the swedish layout
[10:58] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, I see a accent key but it's not working for me....
[10:58] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Then, either reboot, or run "sudo modprobe snd-als100"
[10:58] <dakotawulfy>  RudyValencia you mean like if you setup wireless then install it does it keep the settings
[10:58] <RudyValencia> does it use the settings in /etc/apt/sources.list on the livecd to get the packages though?
[10:59] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[10:59] <rodicio> Svetlana, http://weeklycareeradvice.blogspot.com.es/
[10:59] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, off to google I go then
[10:59] <RudyValencia> because I don't want to download from archive.ubuntu.com to install :)
[10:59] <Rory> rodicio: Keep your spam somewhere else please
[10:59] <RudyValencia> I'd rather download from ubuntu.osuosl.org
[11:00] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: mm.. it has to be a solution out there.. you're not the first one to want to write accented characters
[11:00] <dakotawulfy> it will only use the dvd if it does not have a net connection
[11:01] <rodicio> Rory, When I open a private window in firefox, it's open that popup
[11:03] <rodicio> Rory, I think its any kind of malware
[11:03] <rodicio> a troyan
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> malware in linux? how exciting!
[11:03] <rodicio> MonkeyDust, yes, but not for me
[11:04] <rodicio> I rubished history and cookies, and the popub go on
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> rodicio  there is no such thing, it must be something else, some setting or option
[11:05] <Svetlana> rodicio, that looks odd.
[11:05] <Svetlana> Rory, he was answering my question, I assumed. (I asked him what popup he gets in his Firefox.)
[11:06] <Svetlana> rodicio, could you create a new user on your system and check for the issue please. Or just create a new Firefox profile to test for it there: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles
[11:07] <petsounds> .quit
[11:08] <Munchkin> Rory it has helped
[11:09] <BlackSheep9> Rory the sound is still not working.
[11:09] <BlackSheep9> I tried sudo modprobe snd-als100 it says "no such device"
[11:11] <BlackSheep9> ERROR: could not insert 'snd_als100': No such device
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:18] <Svetlana> BluesKaj, hi.
[11:18] <rodicio> Svetlana, MonkeyDust  It was an add-on that's open the popup Thanks
[11:18] <BluesKaj> hi Svetlana
[11:22] <BlackSheep9> I am using COMPAQ presario V3500 running 13.04. There has been no sound whatsoever I tried different solutions online. Someone who knows a solution to this problem please help me.
[11:22] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, fixed :D  I needed to set a "compose key" in settings, that is now "alt gr" on my system.    ñ
[11:23] <BlackSheep9> lspci -v NO SOUND http://paste.ubuntu.com/6200183/
[11:25] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: nice! I think I've done that right after the install on my system
[11:25] <BlackSheep9> anyone?
[11:25] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, so I now have to press "alt gr", then the accent key, then the letter.   If I want "ñ" opposed to "ǹ"  I have to shift+accent key to get it. Which means unless I switch to some spanish layout I won't be typing vary fast once I really learn spanish
[11:25] <BlackSheep9> I am using COMPAQ presario V3500 running 13.04. There has been no sound whatsoever I tried different solutions online. Someone who knows a solution to this problem please help me.
[11:26] <BlackSheep9> lspci -v NO SOUND http://paste.ubuntu.com/6200183/
[11:26] <Paddy_NI> Hey I would like to take Ubuntu Touch for a spin on my Nexus 7 WiFi (2012) model, Should I use a daily build or what is recommended?
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !touch|Paddy_NI,
[11:27] <Paddy_NI> cfhowlett: Thank you I am aware of those resources
[11:28] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, I wish there was a better way then having to stop mid sentence and fumble my fingers to get a accented letter
[11:30] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: you can always modify the keyboard layout and put that ñ on some key you don't really use.. caps lock or something
[11:31] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, oh well better than nothing. I may get a mini bluetooth keyboard with a Spanish layout so I can type a bit faster
[11:35] <prabs> Hi
[11:36] <cfhowlett> prabs, greetings
[11:37] <prabs> cfhowlett i am new to ubuntu
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !details|
[11:38] <prabs>
[11:38] <goku_> hi all
[11:39] <cfhowlett> goku_, DBZ!
[11:39] <goku_> yes^^ I just installed ubuntu this night around 4:30
[11:39] <goku_> NICK Goku
[11:42] <goku_> already quit like it though I had a few problems installing irc
[11:43] <useelin> how install zipzap firewall
[11:44] <useelin> sry zipzap browser
[11:45] <dadumba> Hi!  KMail and local web apps like drupal and owncloud doesn't work, beecause akonadi doesnt work, because mysql-server-5.5 doesnt start, even with "service mysql restart", nor "dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server". then I tried to reinstall upstart, libjson-c2 libjson0, aptitude install * didnt work, so I tried with aptitude download * which also doenst work, so manual download from arvhice.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/j/libj/libjson-c2 etc a
[11:45] <dadumba> ANY IDEA??
[11:45] <marloshouse> dadumba, start over?
[11:47] <dadumba> @marloshouse do you mean reboot?
[11:47] <useelin> .. and how install and use leopardflower firewall on ubuntu. need help.
[11:49] <TimPlaz> Ubuntu 12.04 newbie.....how to get flash player to work in firefox????
[11:49] <Ardy92> hello
[11:49] <Ardy92> i have a vps
[11:49] <Ardy92> how can install this --> linux-headers-2.6.32-042stab078.26 ?
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> Ardy92, what company are you with for your vps and what is the output of: uname -r
[11:52] <prabs> Hi
[11:52] <TimPlaz> guess I'm not the only one without flash player...thanks anyways
[11:53] <bekks> Ardy92: ask the support of your vps, wether they provide it or not.
[11:53] <roy_> i need to set up my external monitor in ubuntu studio
[11:55] <goku_> I would help u if I could
[11:55] <goku_> but actualy started with ubuntu this night xD
[11:55] <paulus68_1> does anyone has an idea on how to install a sata raid on a hp proliant ML310 with ubuntu server 13.04?
[11:56] <Rory> prabs: Greetings
[11:56] <R0b0t1> Hi, what is the binary name for the various libreoffice programs?
[11:56] <njsg> libreoffice?
[11:57] <R0b0t1> That launches a window where I pick what I want to do. I'm wanting to launch the writer on its own
[11:57] <Rory> R0b0t1: libreoffice-writer I think
[11:57] <njsg> Rory: perhaps -writer, -calc, ... as parameters, let me check
[11:57] <jrib> Rory: libreoffice --help
[11:57] <njsg> ups R0b0t1 ^
[11:58] <njsg> but it is still one single binary
[11:58] <jrib> R0b0t1: libreoffice --help
[11:58] <njsg> if you have libreoffice-writer that is likely a wrapper script installed in ubuntu
[11:58] <roy_> i need to put my external monitor to the left instead to have the double monitor with same images...but i can't find this option int the monitor panel
[11:59] <njsg> I usually just use xrandr and use --left-of / --right-of
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> libreoffice --writer
[11:59] <useelin> wich the firewall will advise with advanced gui interface
[11:59] <njsg> also, keep in mind when using older machines that the code from openoffice used one-dash before options, there was a transition at some point, but older versions will likely take "-calc" "-writer" and not "--calc" "--writer"
[12:00] <R0b0t1> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[12:02] <roy_> ok i try
[12:02] <roy_> njsg
[12:03] <dadumba> @roy_ you could also use/install ARandR which is a GUI for xrandr
[12:03] <njsg> I have no experience with graphical interfaces for multiple screen configuration, xrandr should go like xrandr --output [ID HERE] --left-of [ID_HERE]
[12:03] <njsg> as simple as that, should put the screen with the first id left to the one with the second id
[12:03] <roy_> roy@roylinux:~$ xrandr
[12:03] <roy_> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 2560 x 1440, maximum 8192 x 8192
[12:03] <roy_> LVDS-0 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 367mm x 230mm
[12:03] <roy_>    1920x1200      60.0*+
[12:03] <roy_> DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[12:03] <FloodBot1> roy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <roy_> DP-1 connected 2560x1440+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 597mm x 336mm
[12:04] <njsg> the settings won't persist, though, and if you're using some DE that has its own RandR settings thing, it may try to undo what you did, I guess
[12:04] <njsg> mirroring is the default thing linux does with multiple screens
[12:05] <njsg> as soon as you set them to be on left or on right, it will stop mirroring and will extend the screen
[12:08] <roy_> so what i type?
[12:08] <hitsujiTMO> roy_: goto system settings -> display  ... turn off mirror displays:    might be simpler
[12:11] <njsg> roy_: "xrandr --output LVDS-0 --left-of DP-1", for example
[12:11] <adas> hi i need help with creating a pxe server
[12:11] <njsg> if that is not what you want, just replace "left" with "right" :-P
[12:12] <sebrock> how do I figure out when my networking/dhclient is run at boot? It starts too late
[12:18] <AndChat419124> hi
[12:19] <theadmin> Hello, AndChat419124.
[12:21] <streulma> does ubuntu on a retina display looks good? Does they have retina support with Mir ?
[12:21] <streulma> I don't see any difference between 13.10 screen and 13.04
[12:22] <theadmin> streulma: I don't think the display needs any kind of special "support".
[12:22] <streulma> theadmin: a resolution on 2800 px is not readable :)
[12:22] <mcl0vin> ayone here using nomachine client with ubuntu?
[12:23] <bekks> mcl0vin: Why?
[12:23] <mcl0vin> i am able to remote to my headless server and i can monitor , but i can't control :S
[12:23] <streulma> is there a good tool to change dpi so it looks sharp ?
[12:23] <Gentoo64> streulma: change the font size
[12:23] <Gentoo64> or dpi
[12:23] <streulma> wich ubuntu is best to use on a macbook pro retina? 12.04.3 LTS or the latest ?
[12:24] <mcl0vin> i searched for anykind of option but couldn't find one.
[12:24] <fionnan> I'm using two monitors and can't maintain a full screen youtube or flash video when I focus on a different window. Does this happen to anyone else?
[12:24] <theadmin> streulma: I recommend LTS for all users apart from those who just want to experiment with new features.
[12:25] <streulma> theadmin: I don't need the new features :)
[12:25] <theadmin> streulma: Then use the LTS. It tends to be more stable and has longer support, so you won't need to upgrade often.
[12:25] <mcl0vin> bekks: does this answer your why question?
[12:27] <njsg> (cör
[12:27] <njsg> streulma: set the actual *resolution*, not the screen pixel area
[12:28] <njsg> xrandr can set the dpi, as well as probably graphical frontends for it
[12:28] <ZIPY> is there a logfile for duc (dynamic update client)
[12:29] <njsg> X windows has some issues with some drivers where it won't set the DPI correctly, which may mean it uses the default one. plus, some programs still refuse to obey dpi, notably firefox
[12:29] <Gentoo64> njsg: you mean chromium?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> !info duc
[12:29] <Rory> When doing full-disk (LVM) encryption during installation, is there any security risk involved with setting your login password to the same or similar as the encryption passphrase?
[12:30] <Gentoo64> firefox has correct dpi for me, chromium has always been odd
[12:30] <Rory> (Assuming both are sufficiently strong)
[12:30] <theadmin> Rory: Not really, nobody will be able to hack into your login password if they can't decrypt the disk.
[12:30] <njsg> Gentoo64: I only know of firefox, I don't use chromium/chrome enough to be able to comment on that
[12:30] <theadmin> Rory: But, if they DO decrypt the disk, they'll have access to your data already and won't be needing your login password
[12:30] <njsg> but firefox used to either ignore it or only respect if it's larger (or smaller?) than the default one
[12:30] <Gentoo64> Rory: and if you're logged in, they already have access
[12:30] <Rory> theadmin: I know, but for example on Truecrypt when making a hidden volume they require that the password for the inner volume be "substantially different" from the outer one, and I was wondering if something similar applied here
[12:31] <Gentoo64> Rory: they say that because obviously its hidden
[12:31] <theadmin> Rory: That's just cause if they were the same it wouldn't be able to tell which one to mount, loses the point
[12:31] <Gentoo64> you dont want the same password
[12:31] <Gentoo64> or it wouldnt work
[12:31] <njsg> Gentoo64: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Layout.css.dpi, see possible values
[12:31] <Rory> theadmin: Not the same, they specifically say SUBSTANTIALLY different
[12:32] <Gentoo64> your meant to use a normal password for the "decoy" and a stron one for the real stuff
[12:32] <Gentoo64> i guess substantially so they wouldnt have any clues
[12:32] <Rory> OK my password is super strong I'm going to go ahead and set it as my LVM encryption passphrase, and my login account
[12:32] <Gentoo64> as to what to guess
[12:32] <theadmin> Rory: Ah, well, I'm not really aware of truecrypt's internals to be honest, but there's a good reason for that anyway... I suppose :D
[12:32] <Rory> Gentoo64: So it's a political, not a technical reason
[12:32] <Gentoo64> as long as the password is good its ok
[12:32] <roy_> njsg!! thanks ! perfetct! sorry but this is my first day in linux! :))
[12:33] <Gentoo64> but the point of a hidden volume is so that you can reveal the password to anyone trying to get in (police or whatever) then they see you got nothing in there making youlook innocent
[12:33] <Gentoo64> so then they wont bother trying another pass (your strong one)
[12:33] <njsg> roy_: now that won't survive reboots, you need something to make that change every time you have a screen connected there, also, you may want to do "xrandr --output THE_ONE_YOU_REMOVE --off" when you remove one, so that it stops extending the screen that way
[12:34] <njsg> roy_: in my computers, I'd just run xrandr manually, or, if there was a permanent second monitor, put it in .xinitrc, but if you use a graphical login screen I think you need to use something else
[12:34] <njsg> as well as that, for some weird reason, the default graphical login manager that comes with ubuntu does not obey .xsession
[12:34] <njsg> nor does it seem to have an option to obey it, last time I was on ubuntu, I just removed it and installed gdm -.-
[12:36] <roy_> ok, i will put manually each time
[12:36] <roy_> another question more difficult to resolve i think...
[12:36] <roy_> i use blender. in the user preferences i can't setup the gpu option
[12:37] <roy_> for the render
[12:37] <roy_> i have a mac book pro with an nvidia graphic card ge force 330m
[12:38] <pl2> Hi guys, I can't seem to get .rm files to play no matter codec package I install. Is there a specific codec for rm?
[12:39] <njsg> what is .rm? real media?
[12:39] <njsg> I'd guess helix packages maybe
[12:39] <hitsujiTMO> pl2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59585/how-do-i-play-a-real-media-rm-file
[12:39] <njsg> if that's still a thing
[12:40] <njsg> oh, it's part of the package with the codecs, I'd expect something like "helix-lib" :-D
[12:40] <njsg> don't forget to use sleep N before playing these, so that it looks close to the original real player, waiting for a bit before it can play the content.
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> seems most have discontinued support for RM
[12:41] <kostkon> hitsujiTMO, it's a dead format
[12:41] <pl2> hitsujiTMO, Thank you. But I just ran the command recommened within, and got the output: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 28 not upgraded.
[12:42] <pl2> kostkon, very dead. Though there are some video I want to watch that were made long ago and there is no other option :(
[12:42] <njsg> I can't say I am surprised, the problem is not being old, the problem is being real media :-\
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> pl2: you will prob have to install an older version of mplayer or vlc
[12:43] <njsg> one of these formats that was born in the age of "it's fun to create disjoint, incompatible formats that are proprietary and are bundled with lots of bloated software"
[12:43] <kostkon> pl2, have you installed ffmpeg and gstreamer-ffmpeg? maybe then the files will play with the totem and/or totem browser. totem == default media player in ubuntu
[12:43] <njsg> mplayer used to have support for windows codecs, although this may require a 32-bit mplayer
[12:43] <kostkon> totem browser plugin*
[12:43] <njsg> then you could just use the windows codec DLLs
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> pl2  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=834004    <-- 2008 !!!
[12:45] <pl2> MonkeyDust, yeah, all the threads about rm are ancient. I feel like a codec hipster.
[12:46] <roy_> how can i upgrade my video card driver ?
[12:46] <njsg> windows dlls + mplayer support for windows codecs may be the best way to rescue old media; as soon as you get your hands on that, transcode it to some other codec
[12:46] <njsg> roy_: to what?
[12:46] <pl2> njsg, Very true. I remember it being 1995 and asking myself why anyone would make something so terrible
[12:47] <njsg> roy_: from what I understand, even if ubuntu is a versioned distro, you can do "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade", to get some updates
[12:47] <njsg> roy_: but if you started today, what do you lack?
[12:47] <roy_> i can't use the gpu with cycles render in blender 2.68a
[12:47] <njsg> pl2: the 90's in the web were a bunch of people reinventing wheels, squared
[12:47] <wotan147> Folks, when one have things like scratchbox, is it possible to login into it and launching a script from , all of this from a script launched on the host system ?
[12:47] <roy_> without gpu option the rendering times are very long
[12:48] <njsg> roy_: maybe blender requires a proprietary driver (argh) -- have you installed that?
[12:48] <roy_> this is my last request for today :)
[12:48] <njsg> proprietary drivers are less stable, more prone to crashes and freezes (that is, "stable" from the point of view of windows users), but they usually provide better 3D acceleration
[12:48] <njsg> roy_: you said you had AMD graphics?
[12:49] <njsg> oh no, nvidia
[12:49] <roy_> njsg you're my mythe... i did the update from the terminal but i'm not sure to did the right think
[12:49] <roy_> i have a nvidia geforce 330m
[12:49] <roy_> amd is better?
[12:49] <njsg> whatever you do, do *NOT* install manually from the nvidia web site
[12:50] <kostkon> pl2, could you give the url of one of those files?
[12:50] <roy_> i think i need to purge all and reinstall new drivers
[12:51] <njsg> roy_: perhaps have a look at http://askubuntu.com/a/307478
[12:51] <njsg> not really sure as I don't use ubuntu at home and I don't use proprietary video drivers
[12:51] <kostkon> roy_, i suppose you would need to have cuda or opencl or something
[12:51] <pl2> kostkon, no url since they're all on disc. I've had them a long time.
[12:51] <kostkon> !find cuda
[12:51] <roy_> yes
[12:52] <kostkon> pl2, ok
[12:54] <kostkon> pl2, i would recommed you to just convert them to a newer format, e.g. use an ffmpeg based converter app from the repos
[12:54] <pl2> kostkon, but will I be able to convert the rm without having the codec that can run it properly? I would definitely go that route..
[12:55] <kostkon> pl2, ffmpeg can encode and decode almost everything
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> pl2  winFF is a nice GUI for ffmpeg
[12:55] <Mermaid> http://www.rublik.com/51fc2d729d4927bb4900054d
[12:56] <pl2> MonkeyDust, Cool, i'll check that out. ffmpeg has a bewildering amount of options.
[12:57] <kostkon> pl2, just convert them to something more convenient, say h264/mpeg4 as avi?
[12:57] <rubic> When I use the terminus font in urxvt, korean and japanese characters are displayed. However when I use terminus in i3 wm they fail to display. Can someone please explain whats going on here?
[12:58] <pl2> kostkon, ANYTHING is more convenient ;)
[12:58] <kostkon> pl2, indeed
[12:58] <viviana1991> ciao a tutti
[12:59] <viviana1991> !list
[13:02] <viviana1991> !list
[13:04] <pl2> kostkon, MonkeyDust, njsg, hitsujiTMO, thanks for taking the time to help, but it seems like ffmpeg can open it either. Seems like it can't create the stream because of the codec. I think I will just download RealPlayer(LOL) and drop into windows. Thanks again
[13:04] <pl2> *can't
[13:04] <njsg> you *need* to have something to handle the coded
[13:04] <njsg> *codec
[13:04] <njsg> just trying different media players won't work
[13:05] <njsg> check the list of supported plugins
[13:05] <njsg> dunno how to do that on ubuntu; here on gentoo as everything is togglable, I can see a list
[13:06] <pl2> njsg, i tried downloading all the codecs, didn't help
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> pl2: it might be an idea to install ubuntu 10.04 on a virtual machine and try that
[13:06] <theadmin> pl2: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras will give you even the weirdest codecs.
[13:06] <theadmin> pl2: VLC also has built-in codecs so it may be able to handle weird formats.
[13:07] <roy_> i love linux
[13:07] <pl2> theadmin, ran that one already ;) nothing was installed. VLC can't play the file either.
[13:07] <theadmin> pl2: Ah okay, sorry, I was being absent
[13:07] <pl2> theadmin, no worries :)
[13:08] <tilman_> hey guys. I was so crazy and change from ubuntu to ubuntustudio today, and my sound dont run. where i can search drivers?
[13:08] <bekks> tilman_: furst check the obvious - is the sound unmuted?
[13:09] <tilman_> no it isnt
[13:09] <bekks> tilman_: Next, is the sound card detected?
[13:09] <njsg> pl2: if mplayer still supports Video For Windows, you can try downloading real alternative and extracting the dlls
[13:09] <tilman_> where i can see it?
[13:09] <hitsujiTMO> lspci
[13:09] <hitsujiTMO> tilman_: lspci
[13:09] <njsg> if it's PCI.
[13:10] <njsg> or ISA, or PCIe
[13:10] <njsg> but if it's usb, it will definitely not show on lspci
[13:10] <hitsujiTMO> tilman_: lsusb    if its usb :)
[13:10] <jota> hola
[13:10] <floo> hello
[13:10] <bekks> tilman_: lspci will show your wether the card is detected physically, check the sound settings in your ubuntustudio to see wether it is detected logically, too.
[13:10] <mrrcp> gi
[13:10] <jota> inglish?
[13:10] <mrrcp> hi
[13:10] <njsg> nowadays cards are normally Intel HDA, sadly (HDA lacks some features even the cheapest cards used to have, like being able to mix with the output of the card itself)
[13:11] <jota> your spanish
[13:11] <tilman_> ähh? I dont understand?!
[13:11] <tilman_> ahh
[13:11] <tilman_> ok
[13:11] <bekks> tilman_: Whats your native language?
[13:11] <njsg> ehkä #ubuntu-es, if it exists?
[13:11] <tilman_> german
[13:11] <jota> tenkiu
[13:11] <bekks> !de | tilman_ that might help too
[13:11] <floo> anyone here who know more about ubuntu like me?
[13:12] <tilman_> ok thank you
[13:13] <floo> anyone know about ati drivers on ubuntu?
[13:14] <floo> ??
[13:14] <floo> anyone can help me
[13:14] <floo> ?
[13:14] <floo> with a information
[13:18] <roy_> i did it to upgrade my nvidia drivers. but i can't see the gpu option in the render setting of blender. it's possible my geforce 330m is to obsolete for CYCLES render of blender?
[13:21] <semitones> Hello netizens of the interwebs
[13:23] <semitones> what's the best way to have the most bootable isos on a USB drive
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> semitones  there's unetbootin and multisystem, 'best' depends on what you prefer
[13:35] <chinmaya> can anybody help me out in how do i recover the space for ubuntu after deleting the linux mint partition in  the ubuntu linux mint dual boot?
[13:35] <bekks> chinmaya: You have to repartition. And how did you "delete the partition"?
[13:36] <chinmaya> by gparted
[13:36] <chinmaya> linux mint was part of an extended partition with the linux swap
[13:37] <bekks> chinmaya: Then use gparted again, after backing up your system, to resize your ubuntu partitions.
[13:39] <njsg> chinmaya: gparted live cd, remove mint *and* enlarge ubuntu.
[13:39] <njsg> and keep in mind that partition != filesystem, you need to first resize the partition, then the filesystem
[13:39] <Guest24159> hi
[13:40] <chinmaya> is there any other way ? im not in a situation to use the live cd :/
[13:40] <chinmaya> i did try through the ubuntu live cd
[13:40] <chinmaya> no luck
[13:41] <bekks> chinmaya: The error message was "no luck"?
[13:41] <chinmaya> err.. no no..
[13:41] <njsg> chinmaya: you *need* to use a live medium.
[13:41] <njsg> except maybe for ext4, you cannot mess with filesystems that are in use
[13:41] <njsg> and even if you can with ext4, I'd still do it from a separate system
[13:42] <njsg> don't forget that many CD images can be used from USB sticks (usually just a matter of running isohybrid on the image, if it's not already prepared for that)
[13:42] <chinmaya> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[13:42] <chinmaya> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
[13:42] <chinmaya> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[13:42] <chinmaya> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
[13:42] <chinmaya> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
[13:42] <FloodBot1> chinmaya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <chinmaya> Disk identifier: 0x000b5e20
[13:44] <freannrak> how can I increase the speed of my "mouse" between the keyboard (whatever that small trackball type of thing is in the middle of the keyboard). output of xinput --list: http://dpaste.com/1407570/
[13:45] <newbie|2> I am asking help where I can find it.  I have Ubuntu 13
[13:45] <bekks> newbie|2: Which 13 - 13.04 or 13.10?
[13:46] <floo> i have a laptop asus x51rl with integrated ati radeon xpress 1100
[13:46] <floo> i can find a driver for this.. coz it's move very slowly
[13:47] <chinmaya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6200750/
[13:47] <chinmaya> this is my partition table
[13:48] <bekks> chinmaya: You still have to use a live cd to change your partitions.
[13:48] <newbie|2> bekks: Is 13.10 already in final release?  I don't "jump the gun", I have 13.04.
[13:48] <chinmaya> okay
[13:48] <bekks> newbie|2: No, 13.10 isnt released yet.
[13:48] <Guest24159> I got kind of a problem with booting Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from network (PXE) using pxelinux. I got the CD contents on a network share (NFS, CIFS) and the PXE part works fine i think. However it fails to mount the network share with NFS because it attempts to use NFSv4, but the server only supports NFSv3 (cannot be changed). So I am looking for a way to either have it use NFSv3 or CIFS.  I already attempted to specify nfsvers=3 in the pxelin
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> newbie|2  in two weeks or so from now
[13:48] <AnAlien> hi guys i thought you might like to know i got everything working
[13:48] <BAMbanda> what would this command do? "cd / && rm -r *"
[13:48] <newbie|2> bekks: It isn't an ubuntu  question ... I'm trying to upgrade my Sony Xperia SP, but can't.
[13:49] <newbie|2> I'm trying to do that
[13:49] <bekks> newbie|2: If it isnt an ubuntu question, you are in the wrong channel :)
[13:49] <jrib> BAMbanda: delete everything
[13:49] <BAMbanda> jrib, and would that happen instantly?
[13:49] <BAMbanda> like would the laptop or computer just die
[13:49] <bekks> BAMbanda: Stop pasting nonsense like that.
[13:49] <jrib> BAMbanda: well almost everything. There would never be a reason to do it.  Try it on a vm if you are curious
[13:49] <bekks> BAMbanda: Yes.
[13:49] <newbie|2> bekks: sorry.  What channel for an upgrade question ... considering I'm using Ubuntu?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> BAMbanda  i tried it in a testing environment, it does nothing
[13:50] <bekks> newbie|2: Which host OS do you really use? Mint?
[13:50] <BAMbanda> MonkeyDust, what exactly happened?
[13:50] <njsg> BAMbanda: no, it would keep running, except for things that you try to start *after* you do it
[13:50] <maslen> How can I install crypto++ header files? I can't find a package for them, and make install (from http://www.cryptopp.com/#download ) only seems to install the binary files
[13:50] <AnAlien> i gtg
[13:50] <BAMbanda> njsg, so there would be problems on startup. Would grub still load?
[13:50] <AnAlien> bye
[13:50] <njsg> BAMbanda: for example, if you have a text editor open, you can probably continue using it, until it needs to read some additional file (say extensions)
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> BAMbanda  somehow secured by linux internally, i guess, but forget that command, it's unfunny humour
[13:51] <njsg> BAMbanda: depends on whether /boot is mounted or part of /. grub is known precisely for keeping files under the file system
[13:51] <newbie|2> bekks: I have Ubuntu 13.04 and have Virtual Box on it.  Put Windows 7 - 64 bit on it.  Didn't do anything more
[13:51] <njsg> BAMbanda: but all the system would be gone
[13:51] <njsg> BAMbanda: if that is run as root, of course
[13:51] <bekks> newbie|2: Then what do you want to do, actually?
[13:51] <BAMbanda> njsg, hmmm. Thanks.
[13:52] <BAMbanda> And you guys don't have to get upset with me for seeking knowledge. I'm just curious, I've never run it before and I have a right to knowledge
[13:52] <njsg> MonkeyDust: did you try it as root? because that one is definitely not secured.
[13:52] <njsg> MonkeyDust: GNU rm does have protection against "rm -rf /", but just that
[13:52] <njsg> (see --no-preserve-root
[13:52] <njsg> )
[13:52] <newbie|2> bekks: I want to upgrade my cell phone ... it requires I do so by connecting the cell phone to the computer
[13:53] <njsg> to the extent once a guy wanted to demonstrate that and found out that SuSE ships with an older version of the coreutils, which does *not* have --no-preserve-root
[13:53] <bekks> newbie|2: Then you are in the wrong channel, since your issue isnt related to ubuntu at all.
[13:53] <njsg> bekks: uh? what if the phone is going to be updated using ubuntu?
[13:53] <bekks> newbie|2: Depending on your cell phone, you cant update it, since vbox doesnt support all USB multi-personality devices correctly.
[13:53] <bekks> njsg: Is the phone running Ubuntu? No, it isnt.
[13:53] <njsg> bekks: ?
[13:54] <njsg> newbie|2: what phone is it?
[13:54] <njsg> newbie|2: and what kind of update do you need to do with it?
[13:54] <bekks> njsg: He doesnt use a phone running ubuntu - there is no such phone currently :)
[13:54] <njsg> bekks: I am aware, but they may use an ubuntu machine to update the phone...
[13:54] <Ben64> that doesn't fall under ubuntu support
[13:54] <njsg> bekks: don't forget that not every phone runs linux, and some phones need to be updated using external computers...
[13:55] <bekks> njsg: Yeah, but those problems arent ubuntu problems then - they are problems regarding the phone, not ubuntu.
[13:55] <njsg> Ben64: so if someone asks about how to start libreoffice or configure displays, it's not part of ubuntu support because these are third-party applications that are not part of what you really call ubuntu?
[13:55] <newbie|2> njsg: Xperia SP.  I have 12.0.A.1.257.  Sony's site tells me that there is a 12.0.A.2.254
[13:55] <njsg> newbie|2: what's their official update procedure?
[13:56] <Ben64> njsg: theres an obvious difference between those, it's not a difficult concept.
[13:56] <semitones> MonkeyDust, unetbootin can have multiple isos?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> njsg  i'll try it now as root inside a chroot
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> semitones  yes, it creates some sort of grub
[13:57] <njsg> newbie|2: note that some phones may have a built-in feature to update, if you have a mobile data plan, it may be easier and less problematic to just do that instead of finding how to use linux to do it, or finding a windows machine that can do it
[13:58] <newbie|2> thx
[13:59] <njsg> but start by finding the official method. if you have a spare machine, even using some windows install there may be less problematic. it's a case of "being worth it" to try to do it from linux
[13:59] <Ben64> njsg: come on, take the phone support elsewhere
[13:59] <njsg> all my phones that don't have self-update over mobile data require cables I don't have, so I never thought about it
[14:00] <newbie|2> njsg: The problem is that it tells me that I need to connect the phone to the computer.
[14:00] <agreas> привет
[14:00] <njsg> newbie|2: you likely need to do something on the computer side, too, no?
[14:00] <Ben64> njsg: newbie|2: this is not the right channel for phone support, take it to #android or somewhere else
[14:01] <monkeyjuice> maybe because ubuntu has done a poor job of making it easy to access cell phones
[14:02] <njsg> more because someone doesn't feel like discussing some uses of an operating system in the operating system IRC channel
[14:02] <Ben64> its the rules! take it up in #ubuntu-ops if you'd like
[14:03] <andishe> where is here?
[14:03] <monkeyjuice> its a ubuntu problem not the cell phone
[14:03] <Ben64> monkeyjuice: incorrect
[14:03] <monkeyjuice> so you say
[14:03] <faugusztin> monkeyjuice:  MTP and USB Mas Storage is well supported. Manufacturer specific flashing tools not ported to linux aren't fault of the OS. ADB for Nexus devices work on linux
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> monkeyjuice  no FUD here, please
[14:03] <Ben64> faugusztin nailed it
[14:03] <monkeyjuice> then help him with connection to cell phone then
[14:03] <andishe> are you real people?
[14:03] <jrib> andishe: ...
[14:04] <chinmaya> umm any software for writing an image in a usb? like usb image writer in mint which comes preinstalled?
[14:04] <chinmaya> for ubuntu
[14:04] <njsg> chinmaya: dd?
[14:04] <Ben64> chinmaya: define "image"
[14:04] <chinmaya> writing a .iso file
[14:04] <njsg> chinmaya: dd, definitely.
[14:04] <chinmaya> making a usb bootable
[14:04] <chinmaya> dd
[14:05] <chinmaya> umm
[14:05] <chinmaya> okay
[14:05] <FloodBot1> chinmaya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <Ben64> chinmaya: i use unetbootin, dd works on certain isos only
[14:05] <njsg> chinmaya: isohybrid from syslinux seems to be able do adapt most of the non-usb-bootable images
[14:05] <njsg> chinmaya: by most, all of them that I've tried
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> chinmaya  try startup disk creator
[14:06] <andishe> any physicist over here?
[14:08] <Guest24159> sry to appear impatient or anything, but does anyone have any idea how to force nfs version 3 for netbooting ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> andishe  this is ubuntu support, i guess you're not in the right channel
[14:10] <andishe> thanks
[14:14] <busted> I guess some people are just ignored...
[14:14] <chinmaya> btw il run gparted live cd just like ubuntu live right?
[14:16] <dinosaurvskitten> how would you go about debugging a slow wifi connectionn on 13.04? My download speeds peak at 100K/s instead of 1.5M/s, and I'm getting a lot of time outs too. Speed's fine if I boot back into macos (this is a macbook air). The problem happens with both brcmsmac and broadcom-wl drivers. I've disabled ipv6 and mdns already. My only next idea was to switch from nm to wicd, but wicd causes kernel panics. Any ideas?
[14:17] <AgentInfinity> I'm facing some problems with a live usb of Ubuntu 12.10 . it won't boot. The HDD has windows 8
[14:18] <AgentInfinity>  I turned off secure boot
[14:18] <AgentInfinity> And set boot mode to legacy support
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO_> is it showing up in the boot menu?
[14:18] <AgentInfinity> Yes
[14:18] <AgentInfinity> I get a lot of text scrolling up
[14:19] <AgentInfinity> Then a purple screen
[14:19] <AgentInfinity> Then nothing
[14:20] <AgentInfinity> hitsujiTMO_: any help?
[14:21] <xubuntu295> which ubuntu version do you recommend for a Pc with Pentium M 1'6Ghz and 512Mb of Ram?
[14:21] <jrib> xubuntu295: try lubuntu
[14:21] <dinosaurvskitten> xubuntu295: I'd probably go for lubuntu, or not ubuntu
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO_> AgentInfinity, have you tried the same with 13.04? maybe a driver issue in 12.04 ... at least getting 13.04 to boot might indicate if it is or not
[14:23] <faugusztin> AgentInfinity: purple... might try to press Esc, maybe the boot process is waiting for something ?
[14:23] <AgentInfinity> Kk
[14:25] <maslen> How can I install crypto++ header files? I can't find a package for them, and make install (from http://www.cryptopp.com/#download ) only seems to install the binary files
[14:26] <Arytmetyk> Hello here. I'm new and linux and i can't check something. Can you tell me which version of kernel does ubuntu use?
[14:26] <AllanD> whenever my system boots I get the message: Network Discovery Service Disabled - your network has a .local domain - what does this mean - everything works perfectly
[14:26] <maslen> Arytmetyk: uname -a
[14:27] <Arytmetyk> But i didn't install it yet
[14:27] <hitsujiTMO_> Arytmetyk ... uname -r   will tell you your current version
[14:27] <Arytmetyk> And i can't find it in docummentation or something
[14:27] <kostkon> Arytmetyk, which version of ubuntu
[14:27] <Arytmetyk> 13.04
[14:27] <drgx2x> ubuntu
[14:27] <kostkon> Arytmetyk, 3.8?
[14:27] <faugusztin> Arytmetyk: distrowatch has that info :)
[14:28] <jack> raring: 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP
[14:28] <faugusztin> Arytmetyk: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[14:28] <jack> dunno about saucy right now
[14:28] <TJ-> Saucy kernel is 3.11
[14:28] <faugusztin> jack: 3.11
[14:28] <jack> k, thx
[14:28] <Arytmetyk> It's bad news for me, becausde my ethernnet card needs 3.10.x or more new. Maybe you want to recommend something?
[14:29] <faugusztin> Arytmetyk: wait 2 weeks for 13.10
[14:29] <jack> saucy salamander then
[14:29] <faugusztin> Arytmetyk: October 17th is the "launch date" for Ubuntu 13.10 with kernel 3.11
[14:29] <faugusztin> or just grab a beta of 13.10
[14:30] <Arytmetyk> Thanky you very much for the info. I will grab a beta version
[14:30] <Arytmetyk> Have a nice day
[14:31] <kostkon> Arytmetyk, you can easily get it from here http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/
[14:33] <Arytmetyk> kostkon, thank you once more
[14:35] <chinmaya> and it worked
[14:49] <AgentInfinity> hitsujiTMO_: I have an nvidia gpu
[14:49] <MACscr> any ideas why in the world my statically setup nic would start getting a dhcp ip all of a sudden? http://hastebin.com/naqamiduma.rb
[14:49] <Fenrirsulfr> salut ;)
[14:49] <busted> how can you specify the NFS version to use when netbooting ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[14:51] <TJ-> MACscr: Is the interface managed by NetworkManager, or manually via ifupdown and /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:52] <MACscr> manually. I have 12 new systems and this is the only one that is doing it
[14:57] <TJ-> Mace268: Does the system have only one network interface? And, what is reporting that the IP is coming from DHCP - a log file entry or something else?
[14:58] <AgentInfinity> I need to do a CLI install of ubuntu
[14:59] <AgentInfinity> Need to use gpart for the partitions
[14:59] <AgentInfinity> All cli
[14:59] <AgentInfinity> Need help
[14:59] <TJ-> MACscr:  Does the system have only one network interface? And, what is reporting that the IP is coming from DHCP - a log file entry or something else?
[14:59] <MACscr> TJ-: no, it has 4
[14:59] <TJ-> AgentInfinity: Use the Alternate install ISO
[14:59] <MACscr> TJ-: did you look at the pastebin link i provided?
[15:00] <AgentInfinity> TJ-: not possible man
[15:00] <TJ-> MACscr: I didn't see one... probably came in after you posted the link
[15:00] <AgentInfinity> GUI won't work
[15:00] <TJ-> AgentInfinity: Do a deboostrap install from a Live ISO then
[15:00] <MACscr> TJ-: http://hastebin.com/naqamiduma.rb
[15:00] <AgentInfinity> Ok
[15:00] <AgentInfinity> How?
[15:02] <TJ-> MACscr: OK, so identify which process is starting dhclient from the process list. It looks to me like a residual from the puppet install
[15:03] <tbharath> Hi
[15:04] <tbharath> when I ran ls -l, I got the result drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12288 Oct  4 19:36 src
[15:04] <MACscr> TJ-: puppet was installed after the fact and not used to initially provision the system. It was though running dhcp after the install before the static ip address was setup. I dont get though why it would behave any differently than the other systems. Ive never changed anything when doing a static ip besides simply editing the network interfaces file and restarting the service
[15:04] <tbharath> I want this change to drwxrwxrwx 1 bharath bharath 12288 Oct  4 19:36 src
[15:04] <tbharath> how can I do that
[15:04] <tbharath> ?
[15:06] <TJ-> MACscr: well, something is starting "dhclient eth1" and the fact it is asking for a specific IP suggests there's a lease file lying around that it is getting that from, its not just trying to get a new lease.
[15:07] <MaximB> I've installed ubuntu 64-bit 13.04 (fresh install), after that i get: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found.
[15:07] <busted> tbharath: chown bharath:bharath .
[15:07] <roy_> hello! ubuntu don't find my bluetooth apple magic mouse
[15:07] <TJ-> MACscr: Are you working with openstack on those systems?
[15:07] <tbharath> busted, I have tried that, but no chnage
[15:07] <MACscr> TJ-: not yet. Going to though
[15:08] <busted> prepend sudo
[15:08] <TJ-> MACscr: OK, so it isn't an openstack issue then :)
[15:08] <tbharath> busted, yeah I have tried that
[15:08] <tbharath> busted, in my fstab I added a line
[15:09] <tbharath> busted, /dev/sda4   /media/bharath/windows  ntfs-3g  defaults,exec,fmask=000  0  0
[15:09] <tbharath> busted, I am trying ls -l in  /media/bharath/windows
[15:09] <tbharath> busted, will that be a problem
[15:09] <bekks> tbharath: you need to set uid/gid in that line to your users pid/gid since NTFS does not support linux permissions.
[15:09] <TJ-> MACscr: I'd be doing "sudo egrep -rn 'dhclient' /etc/* " to find any scripts that might be launching that process, and then I'd extend the search to "/usr/lib" and "/usr/share/"
[15:10] <tbharath> bekks, how can we do that
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Tbharath: is it a usb drive?
[15:10] <bekks> !ntfs | tbharath
[15:11] <tbharath> ActionParsnip, no, it is a partition in my harddrive
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Tbharath: ok cool. Just curious
[15:12] <tbharath> !NTFS-3g
[15:12] <MACscr> btw, whats the proper way to restart the network service when you make manual changes?
[15:12] <TJ-> MACscr: "sudo service networking restart"
[15:12] <tbharath> !FUSE
[15:13] <bekks> tbharath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions is pretty much all you need.
[15:15] <MACscr> TJ-: for some reason I have found that it doesnt always work. Aka, the new ip settings arent applied and i have to run /etc/init.d/networking restart to get more debug info
[15:16] <TJ-> MACscr: "service" is a wrapper to do the same thing... unless the Ubuntu release you're using has the equivilent Upstart script in /etc/init/
[15:16] <TJ-> MACscr: but all they really do is "ifdown -a" and "ifup -a"
[15:16] <MACscr> im just using 12.04 LTS that i installed from iso, so nothing special
[15:17] <jack> TJ-, equivAlent :P
[15:17] <jack> comes from value
[15:17] <TJ-> MACscr: OK, the SYSV init.d script is a bit busier than Upstart on 12.04
[15:18] <Janhouse> I have a laptop with SIS 771/671 video card. I'm unable to start Xubuntu 12.04 without adding acpi=off to kernel line. Without it the graphics go crazy and I'm unable to see what's going on. Any ideas?
[15:18] <TJ-> MACscr: In later versions it's a sym-link to the Upstart jobs
[15:19] <bekks> Janhouse: Blame it on the graphics adapter which is pretty much the worst you could get nowadays.
[15:19] <Tamwyn> Hello, I have a problem with 12.04, i got this error message: Oct  6 17:13:20 Voyager-M15x kernel: [13820.063749] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: ME failed to update for more than 1s, likely hung 2 times a second in syslog. Everytime when I boot the System I got an Error Messag "Problem with a Systemservice" (Translated) Sometimes (I can't see a reproducable way) it appaears while normal use. Often when working with Thunderbird (it's in the "Autostart") Ha
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: ive only see those work with an xorg.conf file
[15:20] <Janhouse> bekks, I know, I know. But when I run it with acpi=off, it starts. So what messes it up?
[15:20] <Janhouse> I mean, it crashes when X hasn't started yet.
[15:20] <Janhouse> the graphical glitches.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: what is the output of: uname -a
[15:21] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: Linux Voyager-M15x 3.5.0-41-generic #64~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 12 16:50:04 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: have you checked for bugs?
[15:22] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: it may be a known issue
[15:23] <zerosum> can anyone help with installing ubuntu 13.04 with a usb
[15:23] <TJ-> Janhouse: See bug #44627 ... basically, its a wishlist item but driver support isn't there
[15:23] <bekks> Janhouse: The graphics adapter is just not working with acpi. Thats "all".
[15:24] <Janhouse> bekks, umm...
[15:25] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: if the error Message would have more output it coud help, It appeared again, Youst "Recieved A Problem with a System Service" and Would you report it"
[15:25] <MACscr> TJ-: thanks, i deleted those lease files. Will see what happens
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: report the bug and give as much detail as you can. The bug guys will ask for details from you
[15:26] <Janhouse> bekks, what do you mean it doesn't work with acpi?
[15:26] <TJ-> Tamwyn: See bug #1210848
[15:26] <bekks> Janhouse: Using it without acpi=off causes the problems you described.
[15:27] <Janhouse> acpi=off disable everything.
[15:27] <Janhouse> is there something more speciffic that can be disabled?
[15:27] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: TJ- I found a bug like this
[15:27] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: modprobe -r intel_ips helped
[15:28] <bekks> Janhouse: Unfortunately no.
[15:28] <zerosum> can anyone help with installing ubuntu 13.04 with a usb, i get to the grub boot menu select install ubuntu, then nothing happens black screen
[15:28] <jack> dutch author :) cool
[15:28] <jack> i'll check it out anyway
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: ok. Blacklist that module and reboot to test
[15:29] <fdkldfsjdfk> hi
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: do you have the latest bios (if your system has one)
[15:29] <john_____> My Ubuntu software centre never responds, can anyone help? :)
[15:29] <iLikeStrongJava> Which VNC server is used by KVM?
[15:29] <bekks> iLikeStrongJava: kvm built in.
[15:29] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: already done
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: what video chip do you use? Does the system have a make and model?
[15:30] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: maybe it will fix the other problem too
[15:30] <fdkldfsjdfk> have Ubuntu any support for Atom Z3740D processorç?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> John_____: if you run: sudo apt-get update ,is it smooth?
[15:30] <zerosum> i have two video chips
[15:30] <fdkldfsjdfk> because 3rd generation of Atoms was W8-only
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Fdkldfsdfk: yes why would it not
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: oh that optimus switching gpu nonesense?
[15:31] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: there is no such processor that is "W8-only".
[15:31] <iLikeStrongJava> Ok.  I've been trying to connect to vm from OS X, but no joy.  I read some forum posts that say people can use the Apple built-in client without prob.  I'm not having any luck.
[15:31] <iLikeStrongJava> Trying to figure out where to start troubleshooting
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Ilikestrongjava: install the VIC on the system and connect to the server remotely
[15:32] <MACscr> iLikeStrongJava: connect in what way? ssh?
[15:32] <MACscr> or vnc
im such a noob in terms of code i just installed all updates if thats what you mean
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Ilikestrongjava: i assume you are meaning vmware.
[15:32] <zerosum> Nvidia Geforce Gt 630M and Intel HD Graphics 4000
[15:32] <fdkldfsjdfk> bekks: yes, intel has said that cover Trail atom's are not Linux capable
[15:33] <iLikeStrongJava> Straight VNC for starters.  Default settings, etc.  No ActionParsnip, I mean kvm/qemu
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> John_____: all i asked is does the command run. Its copying and pasting. So being 'noob' has zero bearing here. Does it
[15:33] <cnbox> o
[15:33] <iLikeStrongJava> Does Apple implementation require ssh?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: yep optimus garbage.
[15:33] <zerosum> ActionParsnip: is that going to be a major problem?
[15:33] <fdkldfsjdfk> UEFI issues on 32 bit for example
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[15:33] <danielubuntu> hello, I have removed my SWAP partition and made a new SWAP in extended partition, how to configure that?
[15:34] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: Do you have any links on Intel actually saying that?
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO_> fdkldfsjdfk more than likely that just means they directly support w8 only
[15:34] <demsad> Hello guys. I need some openvpn service to secure my passwords using public wifi networks. I've found vpnbook, but have read that they use their client's data for their own aims. Can anybody tell me, who has an experience using "vpnbook" service, that it's safe and secure. Or just recommend me another service, which is safe.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Fdkldfsjdfk: uefi is nothing to do with processor conpatibility with ubuntu
[15:34] <danielubuntu> ?
[15:34] <john_____> ActionParsnip: Well i dont even have a command console on my toolbar, so being a noob does have a lot to do with it.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Fdkldsjdfk: its nothingvto do with the cpu at all
[15:35] <fdkldfsjdfk> hitsujiTMO_: users failed trying to boot W7 disk
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> John_____: searched dash?
[15:35] <danielubuntu> any help?
[15:35] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: Do you have any links from Intel proving that?
[15:35] <fdkldfsjdfk> bekks: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/136276-intel-clover-trail-atom-chips-cannot-run-linux
[15:35] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: Thats not an Intel link.
[15:35] <danielubuntu> bekks, can u help me?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: add it in /etc/fstab to be swap. You will need to run: sudo blkid ,to get the UUID of the partition
[15:36] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: Last sentence of your post: "While Intel stated that Clover Trail “cannot run Linux,” a better way to put it would have been to say that users should not run Linux.".
[15:36] <bekks> danielubuntu: I dont know.
[15:36] <zerosum> ActionParsnip: sorry dont know how to do that
[15:36] <john_____> ActionParsnip: I searched dash for console and run and found nothing.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: nobody is born knowing either. Try researching online to find out.....
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> John_____: its a terminal.
[15:37] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | zerosum
[15:38] <danielubuntu> also what to do when removes bash from bin ?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | zerosum
[15:38] <danielubuntu> *removes
[15:38] <bekks> danielubuntu: Why do you remove bash from /bin ?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: can you rephrase please
[15:38] <fishcooker> how to list all network interface that all i have?
[15:38] <fdkldfsjdfk> ActionParsnip: that was the answer when someone asked on community forums od Lenovo why his thinkpad tablet did not boot linux (Initdr not found error)
[15:38] <bekks> fishcooker: sudo ifconfig -a
[15:39] <john_____> ActionParsnip: it says nothing matches your search when i search terminal.
[15:39] <zerosum> cheers reading up now
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> John_____: ok press CTRL+ALT+T
[15:40] <fdkldfsjdfk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2169631
[15:40] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: The Kernel Message is away, but the problem is still there and there was now an internal eeror message by Ubuntu caused by ntpd, i have removed it now
[15:40] <fishcooker> thanks bekks.. is it possible to have 2 different frequency 2.4GHz and 5Ghz on one interface?
[15:40] <fishcooker> here i have eth3 eth2 and wlan0 also lo
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: if you are new to Linux etc. There will be a lot you dont know and stating so is worthless. You have a computer attached to the largest human known database. Use it when you dont know something
[15:40] <bekks> fishcooker: If your wifi interface supports it, yes.
[15:40] <fdkldfsjdfk> and there is no legacy mode :(
[15:41] <danielubuntu> bekks, yes
[15:41] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, i deleted bash
[15:41] <fishcooker> it means my wlan0 have possibility to do that?
[15:41] <john_____> ActionParsnip: ok sudo apt update seemed to be smooth..
[15:41] <fishcooker> i've costum box here.. it seem strange that i dont have eth0
[15:42] <danielubuntu> bekks, it is removed by mistake
[15:42] <dpy> hi guys
[15:42] <danielubuntu> how to fix?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> John_____: ok. Does software centre now run ok?
[15:42] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201174/
[15:42] <fdkldfsjdfk> i believe that chips aren't exactly designed to "run Linux" or any other OS. It's Linux that supports CPUs, but Intel doesn't want to cooperate
[15:43] <john_____> ActionParsnip: no the window goes grey when i click it
[15:43] <bekks> danielubuntu: Boot a live cd, copy it over again.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: id copy it from livecd. Why are you messing around in /bin at all?
[15:43] <john_____> ActionParsnip: and says not responding
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> John_____: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:43] <danielubuntu> ok will try with live cd
[15:44] <fdkldfsjdfk> Intel has said that new 4gen Atoms will support Android/Linux
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Fdkldfsjdfk: intel loves linux :-)
[15:44] <john_____> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[15:44] <h1n1> Intel love anything they can make money off
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> John_____: try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install software-center
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> H1n1: and why not. All businesses do....
[15:45] <h1n1> Yep
[15:46] <dpy> a long shot, but does anyone here happen to know how to make google chrome/chromium register as a pulseaudio application?
[15:46] <dpy> I would like to patch Google Music through my equalizer
[15:48] <john_____>  ActionParsnip: software catalogue update was successful, however software centre stil crashes
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> John_____: try running it from terminal. The output may give clues
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> John_____: run: software-center
[15:50] <fdkldfsjdfk> so "The 32-bit ISOS do not contain the necessary EFI files" is a false statement Isn't it?
[15:50] <fishcooker> bekks: is it ok that i have not eth0 here?
[15:51] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201174/
[15:51] <fishcooker> the wired must be in eth*
[15:51] <bekks> fishcooker: sure. ethX arent wifi devices.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Bekks: they can be
[15:51] <fishcooker> how to know ActionParsnip
[15:51] <john_____> ActionParsnip: No command 'run:' found, did you mean:  Command 'runq' from package 'exim4-daemon-heavy' (main)  Command 'runq' from package 'exim4-daemon-light' (main)  Command 'runq' from package 'sendmail-bin' (universe) run:: command not found
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> John_____: think about it...
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: sudo lshw -C network ,you will see the network controller and its device name
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> John_____: 'run:' is just me saying 'the next bit is the command to run' it's not a command itself
[15:53] <john_____> ActionParsnip: yeah i worked that out, this was the result
[15:54] <john_____> ActionParsnip: 2013-10-06 16:53:04,841 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.app - INFO - setting up proxy 'None' 2013-10-06 16:53:04,847 - softwarecenter.db.database - INFO - open() database: path=None use_axi=True use_agent=True 2013-10-06 16:53:05,479 - softwarecenter.backend.reviews - WARNING - Could not get usefulness from server, no username in config file 2013-10-06 16:53:05,853 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.app - INFO - show_available_packa
[15:54] <danielubuntu> can anybody tell me what is the File Size of bash in /bin ? its Ubuntu 13.04
[15:55] <danielubuntu> ?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> John_____: ok then search for that warning to see what it means
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: i believe http://packages.ubuntu.com has file sizes too
[15:56] <Akuw> hi
[15:56] <dpy> fixed, it shows up during playback only... I paused the music to set it up ... doh!
[15:56] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, is not everybody have same BASH? so can u plz check?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: im on Precise only
[15:57] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok
[15:57] <Akuw> to install application to convert shape to postgis ?
[15:58] <john_____> ActionParsnip: i googled it and it said try cd ~/.cache; rm -r software-center but no avail.
[15:59] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, well, the size of bash in my computer is bigger than one in that site
[15:59] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, well no, its smaller than the "installed size"
[16:00] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, will sudo apt-get install -f fix this?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: you will need to reinstall the package with the file in
[16:01] <danielubuntu> can anybody tell me what is the file size of bash in /bin ? ubuntu 13.04
[16:01] <danielubuntu> ?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: the package system has no idea you deleted the file (ni idea why youbwould too) so reinstall the package and itbwill put the file back
[16:01] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, reinstall from repo?
[16:02] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, oh ok so live usb was a bad idea
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: not really. You can copy the file over. Or chroot in and reinstall the package thetr
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> There
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Not a bad idea
[16:02] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok
[16:03] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, what is the file size of ur bash? can u kindly tell me?
[16:03] <h1n1> 724
[16:04] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, if u want
[16:04] <h1n1> Danielubuntu 737952 byte
[16:04] <danielubuntu> h1n1, 13.04 ?
[16:04] <h1n1> Yea
[16:04] <sallee> Hello there. Anyone interested in helping with networking problem. One of the computers on my network is not broadcasting hostname or ip, and also hoards the network, so nothing else in the house works properly.
[16:04] <john_____> ActionParsnip: i could not find a solution online.
[16:05] <danielubuntu> well mine have larger file size
[16:06] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, do I need to open fstab with any text editor?
[16:06] <h1n1> How large is large?
[16:06] <danielubuntu> h1n1, some more kilobytes
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: to do what?
[16:06] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, to add swap
[16:07] <h1n1> So what's wrong with that?
[16:07] <danielubuntu> h1n1, just checking if it is cracked or something
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: yes you will need to run: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab ,to get write access
[16:07] <Vivekananda> hey everyone I have green highlighting over green text in my terminal and on terminator
[16:07] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[16:08] <Vivekananda> looks completely stupid and unuseful. How do I change it ?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> John_____: could try the lubuntu-software-centre
[16:08] <h1n1> Well you can always rename it and reinstall the package that contain /bin/bash
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Vivekanda: in terminal options you can changebappearance
[16:08] <Vivekananda> Also I lost the boot screen for ubuntu when I deleted lubuntu for some reason.  I want the ubuntu welcome screen ( sorry not boot )
[16:10] <Tamwyn> Vivekananda: for login?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: do you mean plymouth, the boot splash?
[16:11] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201290/
[16:11] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: the options I see on the 'change profile' in terminal has no ' highlight option'
[16:11] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: yep
[16:11] <Vivekananda> the boot splash
[16:11] <Vivekananda> Tamwyn: yep at the time of login too
[16:11] <markx_> Any idea why http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.4-saucy/ is missing the headers-all?
[16:11] <Vivekananda> at login I see only a black background
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: ok then reinstall the plymouth package. Are you really that bothered about somethingbso trivial....
[16:11] <john_____> ActionParsnip: command not found.
[16:12] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I liked it :).
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Markx_: contact the ppa maintainer. Its a 3rd party source so does not have the same rigerous testing of official packages
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> John_____: its not installed bybdefault
[16:13] <fishcooker> it seems thos wlan0 support for 5GHz on http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201290/
[16:13] <dinosaurvskitten> how would you go about debugging a slow wifi connectionn on 13.04? My download speeds peak at 100K/s instead of 1.5M/s, and I'm getting a lot of time outs too. Speed's fine if I boot back into macos (this is a macbook air). The problem happens with both brcmsmac and broadcom-wl drivers. I've disabled ipv6 and mdns already. My only next idea was to switch from nm to wicd, but wicd causes kernel panics. Any ideas?
[16:13] <Tamwyn> Vivekananda: I don't have it. It get lost after installing the Nvidia Drivers
[16:14] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: but about the terminal I cannot seem to find options to change the highlight color. This is how it looks now --- http://imagebin.org/272934
[16:14] <Vivekananda> completely unusable
[16:15] <Vivekananda> Tamwyn: same here . I lost it and I also installed nvidia drivers
[16:15] <loa> hello, can explain where is unity launcher in ubuntu 13.10?
[16:15] <goku> hi all
[16:15] <Vivekananda> loa: where is ?
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> loa  13.10 isnt ready yet, support in #ubuntu+1
[16:16] <loa> MonkeyDust, there is no support at all.
[16:16] <Vivekananda> another weird thing is happenning. For some reason when I try to Alt+tab my windows I see all windows but 'terminator' even when open on the same deskop is not visible
[16:16] <Guest19677> is the "nomodeset" option a permanent solution? Or do you use it just to install a new system, and fix it later
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> loa  type /join #ubuntu+1 and wait a bit longer than you did, after you asked a question
[16:16] <Vivekananda> but doing the windows picker ( cursor to right bottom as I have set it to be ) shows me that it is open
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: edit -> Profiles -> edit -> Colours tab
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: not got that?
[16:17] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I went there and there is notthing for the "highlight" color ( which you see green for some lines in the imagebin above)
[16:17] <Vivekananda> hold on
[16:17] <Guest31517> how to register in this channel?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> !register
[16:18] <Guest31517> !register
[16:18] <sallee> I know somebody out there would really like to help me out! Anyone interested in helping with networking problem? One of the computers on my network is not broadcasting hostname or ip, and also hoards the network, so nothing else in the house works properly.
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: if you install and run guake you can get a useful terminal colour there
[16:18] <Tamwyn> Vivekananda: I think thats a delay of the X-Server you can't do lot against it. I have no problem with it. A way to minimize the problem would be an SSD so you system boots faster ;-)
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: what network chip is it? Which distribution and release. Details.....
[16:19] <danielubuntu> how to reinstall a package via terminal?
[16:20] <newbee> hello folks
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[16:20] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[16:21] <fdkldfsjdfk> wow, UEFI, secure boot and fast boot is really a headache. I'm new on this
[16:21] <sallee> ActionParsnip: elementary luna (based on precise). Qualcomm Atheros ar8152 v2.0
[16:21] <newbee> I have an very weired problem. I wanted to bind my music folder from a windows partition into my home folder using an entry in the fstab. If I check via 'mount' command if it is mounded, it says that it is. Nevertheless my file browser and 'ls' don't agree
[16:22] <newbee> I am very pussled. And I don't know what to do about that. Could you please help me!
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: elementaryOS isnt supported here
[16:23] <danielubuntu> #elementaryos
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: ask in #elementaryos
[16:24] <sallee> ActionParsnip: could you pretend its precise, then? #elementary doesn't have anyone who can help
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> sallee  neither has #ubuntu
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: no. Its not ubintu so isnt supported here or in ANY of the Ubuntu support channels
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: similarly, ubuntu is based on Debian but is not supported by the debian community in any way
[16:25] <Guest31517> can soneone tell me if I dont have permission to install programms from Downloads folder?
[16:25] <paulus68> I am booted with a live cd on a current linux system where my /home is not accessible because I made a mistake during the move from current location towards new drive. how can I copy the ./ folders using the live cd in order to keep the profile setting from firefox and thunderbird
[16:26] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: you dont understand the terminal colors are fine . but the green highlight is what I wish to change
[16:26] <sallee> ActionParsnip: Also, this problem has persisted through several different ubuntu installs on the same deivce
[16:26] <danielubuntu> sallee, no Ubuntu derivative is supported here take Linux Mint for example, everybody have different IRC channel
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest31517: if you are able to install applications, the location doesnt mattter
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: your issue is with elementary os. Not supported here
[16:27] <Vivekananda> sallee: any particular reason for using elementary ?
[16:27] <danielubuntu> well any way to know everything (configuration files) about ubuntu? like how something works? any tutorial / ebook or something?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> !manual
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: easier to learn it the dame way you learned Windows.
[16:28] <sallee> Vivekananda: thanks for asking, the keyboard shortcuts are more intuitive, its a little easier to look at, and seems to have less bugs in the UI on little netbooks
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: you'll never know everything about an OS
[16:29] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, that will take long time then :)
[16:29] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, well I don't mean every single part, just configarations
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: eaxh day you will improve
[16:29] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, and not GUI
[16:30] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: any clues for the highlight
[16:31] <Vivekananda> http://imagebin.org/272934
[16:31] <paulus68> I am booted with a live cd on a current linux system where my /home is not accessible because I made a mistake during the move from current location towards new drive. how can I copy the ./ folders using the live cd in order to keep the profile setting from firefox and thunderbird
[16:31] <Vivekananda> it renders those directories invisible
[16:31] <newbee> does noone have an idea what could be the reason of my bind issue?
[16:32] <Vivekananda> paulus68: grysync , rsync would work ( I use that )
[16:32] <Vivekananda> you have to enable keep permissions and stuff if you want to
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: is that on an NTFS partition by any chance?
[16:33] <paulus68> Vivekananda: What is the command please in order to copy from one location towards the other?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: could use grsync as a GUI to rsync
[16:34] <Vivekananda> paulus68: I sometimes write commands incorrectly. What you can do is install grsync which is a gui for rsync and then choose options in there. Execute a test file to make sure what you are doign and then execute the big one
[16:35] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: ntfs partition for ?
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: the location of the files and folders in the shiot, are they on an NTFS partition?
[16:36] <Vivekananda> yep
[16:36] <Vivekananda> so you are saying that this wont be an issue on ext3 4 ?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: then ots normal. The Linux files will show as normal. The files are green as they are executable
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Ots = thats
[16:37] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I am okay with the color. unhappy that it is bold green so cannot read the names of the files themselves. Wanted to change the bold to a duller green
[16:38] <marco___> hi, i accidentally removed my repositories and now i need to reconfigure them. I had this problem some time ago and someone in this channel gave me a link to a page that produced repo lists according to os version
[16:38] <Vivekananda> newbee: I dont know a whole lot but fstab is used to mount partitions
[16:38] <marco___> but i can't find it again, can anybody help me?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: its an ntfs thing. You may be able to tweak it but im not quite sure as I dont use ntfs anywhere
[16:39] <Vivekananda> if you already have a mounted partition then you can simply create a bookmark for the folder and it will show up as such
[16:39] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: but the os I amrunnin is ubuntu so the tweak must be on the side of ubuntu isnt it
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Marco___: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:40] <daftykins> marco___: how do you keep doing that? >_<
[16:40] <k-joseph> hi to u all, users and developers, i want to connect my android phone to a wifi network i create, on my ubuntu pc, am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS and am asking how can i create a wifi network for me to connect my phone on the same internet am using via a modem?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: maybe. I use guake which themable but believe it will use the same thing for ntfs
[16:40] <daftykins> marco___: keep some backups in your /home next time? :)
[16:40] <daftykins> marco___: also http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Marco___: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue ,i can give a list file based on the release
[16:41] <marco___> daftykins: yes, i will keep a backup now :)
[16:41] <newbee> Vivekananda: yes, but you can also use it to bind one folder into another as described e.g. here http://backdrift.org/how-to-use-bind-mounts-in-linux
[16:41] <marco___> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.4
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Marco___: 13.04 not 13.4. The link daftykins looks decent
[16:42] <Vivekananda> newbee: instead of the bind and fstab why not symlink ?
[16:43] <Vivekananda> I do that and that is much easier and quick
[16:43] <Vivekananda> just one line of code
[16:44] <marco___> ActionParsnip: yes, thank you! :D
[16:45] <newbee> Vivekananda: i am not sure to be honest. Ich thought that the bind-ansatz would be the natural one.
[16:45] <paulus68> Vivekananda: another question after installing ubuntu while using the same username and password will I be able to copy over the profile files towards the new home directory or can I encounter problems there
[16:46] <newbee> Vivekananda: probably symlinks between partitions will have some problems and risks. Would be nice if someone could enlighten me about the differences and dis/advantages of bind vs symlink
[16:46] <Vivekananda> newbee: yep but I guess others are called for then :) . I dont know
[16:47] <Vivekananda> paulus68: I guess so . copying should be easy as is
[16:47] <Vivekananda> if there are errors you will see them in grsync
[16:48] <newbee> Vivekananda: :-) not exclusively. You denoted that you may not be an expert about fstab. So I thought maybe include some of those expers. But if you had happend to know  I would of course have meant you ;-)
[16:49] <Vivekananda> newbee: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49623/are-there-any-drawbacks-from-using-mount-bind-as-a-substitute-for-symbolic-lin
[16:49] <Vivekananda> newbee: no no it is okay. I honestly dont know. but I found a helpful link.
[16:50] <Vivekananda> please read it
[16:51] <xarex> moin
[16:53] <xarex> i have a problem with adobe flash player, when we get the new version ?
[16:53] <newbee> Vivekananda: to me the link indicates that I should try symlinks
[16:58] <Katux> hi
[16:58] <xarex> hi
[16:59] <Vivekananda> newbee: yep and it is easy too
[16:59] <lolol> can anyone tell me a software to record desktop
[16:59] <lolol> i forgot the name
[16:59] <lolol> recordmydesktop something?
[16:59] <DJones> !secreencast | lolol
[16:59] <bazhang> lolol, kazam
[16:59] <DJones> !screencast | lolol
[16:59] <lolol> thanks guys :)
[17:00] <bazhang> that factoid needs an update
[17:01] <newbee> Vivekananda: I do not get it. How do I link one directory into another, but with a different name
[17:01] <newbee> Vivekananda: lets say i want to link /mnt/something as /home/somebody/somethingelse
[17:02] <Katux> what would happen if one day Microsoft or any OEM decide to blacklist shim loader?
[17:02] <llutz> newbee: ln -s /mnt/something as /home/somebody/somethingelse
[17:03] <llutz> newbee: ln -s /mnt/something  /home/somebody/somethingelse     (sorry)
[17:03] <Katux> UEFI blacklist can be updated by Windows Update
[17:04] <newbee> llutz: this does not work. This does create /home/somebody/somethingelse/something
[17:04] <llutz> newbee:  /home/somebody/somethingelse has not to exist before
[17:05] <newbee> llutz: so the original folder is linked into the folder i did want the link to be
[17:05] <ampw> hello how do i install something like heimdall-flash
[17:05] <newbee> llutz: thx
[17:05] <newbee> llutz: thx
[17:05] <newbee> llutz: does the job :-)
[17:06] <tozen> ampw: if have in repos then sudo apt-get install package_name
[17:07] <ampw> tozen: if ihave 13.04 can i install a deb for the 12
[17:07] <bindi> I have two SSDs, one HDD. I plan on installing Ubuntu on the first SSD, Windows 8 on the second, and the HDD will be a shared data drive (so has to be ntfs..), and I want to have full disk encryption on all drives. Doable?
[17:08] <pfifo> Katux: windows normally tramples a grub install, how is this different? Microsoft dosent care about the users computer or there prefrences
[17:10] <pfifo> bindi: linux cant handle encrypted ntfs so no, not doable
[17:10] <paulus68> if I want to resize my hardrive just leaving out my home partition (on a seperate hd) what do I need to enter for the first HD for mount partitions and sizes?
[17:11] <paulus68> the drive as such is 1.5 TB big
[17:11] <Vivekananda> bindi: are you from india ?
[17:11] <bindi> Vivekananda: no
[17:12] <pfifo> paulus68: you cant resize a harddrive, its storage capacity is fixed by hardware limitations
[17:12] <kayzarg> hola
[17:13] <kayzarg> necesito ayuda acabo de instalar ubuntu en mi computadora no es muy nueva pero cuando quiero ver un video en youtube no se ve se ve como distorcionado
[17:14] <llutz> !es | kayzarg
[17:14] <paulus68> pfifo: ok let me rephrase what sizees do I need to enter for /boot /root and so on
[17:15] <pfifo> paulus68: I recommend using one harddrive for / and the other harddrive for /home...
[17:16] <pfifo> paulus68: maybe put a swap on each of them if you want swap
[17:17] <paulus68> pfifo: so for the first drive I select just / and for the 2nd hd I select /home + swap partition on the first hd?
[17:18] <pfifo> paulus68: yes... I would put half the swap on drive 1 and half on drive 2... swappiness will work faster like this in some cases
[17:18] <pfifo> paulus68: do not put swap on a SSD if one is SSD and the other is HDD
[17:20] <Rory> pfifo: Enlighten me as to why
[17:20] <Rory> pfifo: "SSDs wear out" isn't an aswer
[17:20] <pfifo> Rory: whats the question?
[17:21] <daftykins> SSDs are the best place for swap.
[17:22] <pfifo> ssds are the best place for a swap that operates fast*
[17:23] <SwedeMike> best place for swap is more memory so you don't need swap.
[17:24] <pfifo> exactly, its cheaper to buy RAM than a new SSD
[17:24] <Suraj> ..
[17:25] <MraMaria> Hi. Does anyone know if clearkimura/Customizer supports kernel upgrades?
[17:25] <arc__> hey can anyone have a look at this for me i need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201474/
[17:25] <Calinou> daftykins: SSD is still much slower than RAM :P
[17:26] <Calinou> 500MB/s in best case for SSD, ~10000MB/s at worst for RAM (DDR3) :P
[17:26] <Calinou> can reach 15000MB/s or even more
[17:27] <Calinou> I have 515MB/s and 13257MB/s respectively :p
[17:27] <Myrtti> MraMaria: say, what?
[17:27] <jack> arc__, i'd try a sudo
[17:27] <daftykins> Calinou: RAM is not part of the conversation
[17:27] <arc__> the same thing happens jack
[17:27] <MraMaria> arc__: try disabling any firewall. if then you could ping disable the rule for that
[17:27] <CaptainQuirk> Hi there !
[17:28] <jack> weird :/
[17:28] <arc__> there is no firewall
[17:28] <Myrtti> MraMaria: oh, it's some new fangled thing in github
[17:28] <MraMaria> Myrtti: say what what? :o
[17:28] <CaptainQuirk> I can't find a way to launch a terminal automatically after I'm logged in to my ubuntu sessino
[17:28] <MraMaria> Myrtti: no isn't, probably you are
[17:28] <CaptainQuirk> I tried editing /etc/rc.local as sudo but without any effect
[17:29] <Myrtti> MraMaria: well I can't find it in packages.ubuntu.com
[17:29] <pfifo> CaptainQuirk: Open a terminal, then logout choosing to 'save session'
[17:29] <houssem> hi
[17:29] <CaptainQuirk> pfifo, what is it supposed to do ?
[17:30] <kongthap> if i don't like a program to install in my home directory (node_modules) where should i move it to???
[17:30] <pfifo> it will sve the session, and on next login, will restore your programs
[17:30] <MraMaria> Myrtti: you know there is more life besides packages.ubuntu.com?!
[17:30] <CaptainQuirk> I need a scripting solution
[17:30] <pfifo> kongthap: /usr/local
[17:31] <Myrtti> MraMaria: you know this is the official support channel for Ubuntu and we haven't tried every app in the universe, and can realistically support only those in packages.ubuntu.com and in very, very limited amount some select few in some selected PPA's, if even those?
[17:32] <Katux> is HP a linux friendly company?
[17:32] <MraMaria> Myrtti: if you can't answer an user question just keep your case rested
[17:32] <logic_prog> when I double click on the ubuntu 13.04 iso on osx, should it open up the iso, or should it say "image not mountable" ?
[17:33] <kongthap> pfifo: if i moved the directory, do i have to re-config anything???
[17:33] <llutz> CaptainQuirk: cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop ~/.config/autostart/
[17:33] <CaptainQuirk> llutz, that's interesting but opening a terminal is just an example
[17:33] <Katux> becaus his answer to UEFI relate problems is very odd "they only support Windows 8 and their own "recovery" software and not "other" operating systems or bootloaders."
[17:33] <llutz> CaptainQuirk: then take this also just as an example
[17:33] <Katux> *because *related
[17:34] <pfifo> kongthap: you should install to /usr/local instead of simply moving it there
[17:34] <CaptainQuirk> llutz, I don't get you
[17:34] <kongthap> pfifo: when i use apt-get how to specify the destination directory???
[17:34] <CaptainQuirk> I'm looking for a way to run any command when after loging in
[17:35] <CaptainQuirk> kongthap, you install node_modules with apt-get ?
[17:35] <pfifo> kongthap: you dont
[17:35] <kongthap> pfifo: npm???
[17:35] <llutz> CaptainQuirk: ~/.config/autostart/mycommand.script
[17:35] <kongthap> pfifo: i just follow tutorial, not sure when i was there???
[17:36] <llutz> CaptainQuirk: or console-login? ~/.bashrc
[17:36] <kongthap> pfifo: at the moment it's already node_modules folder
[17:37] <pfifo> kongthap: I have no idea what your doing, youll have to provide more details
[17:39] <CaptainQuirk> llutz, thanks, I'll look into it
[17:40] <kongthap> pfifo: it's grunt
[17:41] <kongthap> pfifo: i installed grunt using npm, do you know how to specify the destination folder?
[17:42] <James_Epp> So I appended this after doing 'sudo crontab -e' but after waiting a day, the file /srv/servers/logs/update.log contains no date. Did I do something incorrectly? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201656/
[17:45] <pfifo> kongthap: no, i dont know anything about grunt or npm, i recommend either installing it the way it wasnt, or seeking support from the grunt/npm community
[17:45] <kongthap> pfifo: thanks :)
[17:47] <flex0> clear
[17:48] <pfifo> James_Epp: put all that into a bash script and run the script, if anyone thoses commands fail, the rest will not run
[17:49] <James_Epp> pfifo: So something like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201694/
[17:50] <Guest64103> hello
[17:50] <pfifo> James_Epp: yeah... make sure to use a shebang in the script, and set a suitable PATH and any other enviroment vars
[17:51] <Guest64103> quit
[17:51] <James_Epp> pfifo: Okay. Thanks!
[17:52] <mzaza> Any ideas how to make Ubuntu detect Huawei k3770, it doesn't detect it?
[17:53] <arc__> mzaza: it that a android phone
[17:53] <mzaza> arc__: No a USB dongle
[17:53] <jack> sounds like an usb stick
[17:53] <arc__> sounds like a phone
[17:54] <mzaza> arc__: Ubuntu detects older USB dongles, this one is newer and it doesn't detect automatically.
[17:54] <mzaza> I am on Ubuntu 12.04
[17:54] <Calinou> some dongles need ndiswrapper to work
[17:54] <jack> mzaza, i think i'm using the same thing
[17:54] <Calinou> that is, using a windows driver
[17:55] <mzaza> jack: Same version and some model :D ?
[17:55] <jack> ubuntu knows my ISP, vodafone
[17:55] <jack> so connecting works perfectly
[17:56] <mzaza> jack: It's not about the ISP, when I change USB dongles with the same IP it works perfectly. The problem is that it doesn't detect the specific usb stick model I mentioned.
[17:56] <jack> hrm :/
[17:56] <gaurav__> How to use auto complete feature in vim
[17:56] <mzaza> jack: Could you help me try debugging the problem and find a solution?
[17:57] <jack> i can only Try_
[17:57] <jack> erm _try_
[17:58] <gaurav__> hello
[17:58] <jack> bbiab...need to go collecting some debts
[17:59] <benzrf> hello
[17:59] <benzrf> my sound seems to be stuck on dummy output
[18:00] <pfifo> gaurav__: vim has their own support channel in #vim you should ask there
[18:00] <benzrf> @help
[18:00] <benzrf> hm
[18:01] <islandmonkey> benzrf: !help
[18:01] <islandmonkey> !help
[18:02] <pfifo> see also !details
[18:02] <danny4way> How do i install eclipse on Ubuntu
[18:02] <danny4way> ?
[18:02] <islandmonkey> Oh wait, just remembered what that did now :)
[18:02] <pfifo> danny4way: 'sudo apt-get install eclipse'
[18:02] <daftykins> !info eclipse
[18:02] <benzrf> danny4way: is it not the same as everything else?
[18:02] <danny4way> But I need to install jdk too
[18:02] <gaurav__> how to use auto complete feature of vim on ubuntu
[18:03] <danny4way> Because I am trying to write codes for Java
[18:03] <pfifo> danny4way: are you setting up for android dev?
[18:03] <danny4way> no. Just for my AP Java class
[18:03] <gaurav__> how to use auto complete feature of vim on ubuntu
[18:03] <benzrf> gaurav__: same as anywhere else
[18:04] <benzrf> still stuck on dummy output in my audio [raring]
[18:04] <gaurav__> no means without pressing ctrl+x and ctrl+n
[18:04] <pfifo> danny4way: you can 'sudo apt-get install openjdk eclipse' to get both
[18:04] <danny4way> I tried sudo apt-get install eclipse
[18:05] <benzrf> gaurav__: I don't understand what you are asking
[18:05] <pfifo> danny4way: you may need to enable the universe/multiverse repos and then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[18:06] <gaurav__> i wan't to say that in vim when we do ctrl+n a pop up appears from where we can select previously typed characters but how to do it without pressing ctrl+n everytime as it reduces speed.
[18:09] <danny4way> sudo apt-get install eclipse isn't working.
[18:09] <gaurav__> i wan't to say that in vim when we do ctrl+n a pop up appears from where we can select previously typed characters but how to do it without pressing ctrl+n everytime as it reduces speed.
[18:09] <Gentoo64> why
[18:09] <gaurav__> @benzrf please reply
[18:09] <arc__> danny4way: what are u using eclips for
[18:09] <BluesKaj> danny4way,are you getting an error ?
[18:09] <danny4way> I am using eclipse for java
[18:10] <danny4way> Yes.
[18:10] <danny4way> It says unable to locate package openjdk
[18:10] <arc__> kk
[18:10] <slyfoxx> when loading ubuntu newest ver, at the almost end of install errorr'd out with grub not loading, any suggestions?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> danny4way, make sure all your sources are enabled in the package manager
[18:11] <danny4way> Yes. They are all enabled.
[18:11] <guestghost> what's the name of the ubuntu installer program? the one used to install on a new system?
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> slyfoxx  by latest, you mean 13.04 or 13.10 ?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> including canonical parthers, danny4way
[18:12] <danny4way> Yep. All are checked.
[18:12] <slyfoxx> ues sir
[18:12] <danny4way> since last month, I couldn't install anything from terminal
[18:12] <slyfoxx> yes
[18:12] <danny4way> It just keep showing erros.
[18:12] <danny4way> errors*
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> slyfoxx  which, 13.04 or 13.10 ?
[18:13] <slyfoxx> 13.10
[18:13] <slyfoxx> the newest one
[18:13] <slyfoxx> I wanted a dual boot on this vista crapola
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> slyfoxx  ok, that's not ready yet, type /join #ubuntu+1 for support
[18:14] <slyfoxx> okay thank you guys
[18:14] <slyfoxx> appreciated
[18:14] <slyfoxx> server ubuntu loaded just fine
[18:14] <slyfoxx> :)
[18:14] <slyfoxx> I will return registered, sorry
[18:15] <slyfoxx> other than that she looks like a fine op system
[18:15] <BluesKaj> danny4way, type openjdk
[18:16] <danny4way> it says couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
[18:17] <danny4way> Oh wait. it actually says openjdk: command not found
[18:19] <TJ-> danny4way: There is no such command, so that is to be expected
[18:19] <ace_me_> I get gethostbyname failure ! help :)
[18:19] <danny4way> So what do i do?
[18:19] <TJ-> danny4way: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install" *should* solve most problems with apt getting out-of-sync
[18:19] <danny4way> I am trying to install eclipse with jdk so that I can write a code for my AP java class
[18:20] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre-lib , danny4way
[18:21] <danny4way> TJ-, I got error message
[18:22] <TJ-> danny4way: Good... we can help when you have specifics. Tell us what it is.
[18:22] <TJ-> !pastebin | danny4way
[18:23] <danny4way> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201830/
[18:23] <danny4way> TJ-, this is an error i got.
[18:24] <danny4way> BluesKaj, I also got error for sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre-lib command
[18:24] <TJ-> danny4way: Do you see the problem? "gzip: stdout: No space left on device"
[18:25] <danny4way> where does that say? ,TJ-
[18:25] <TJ-> danny4way: In the output you just pastebinned
[18:25] <danny4way> Oh yeah. I see it now.
[18:25] <danny4way> So what do i do?
[18:26] <danny4way> I'm new to Ubuntu. It's nothing like other OS.
[18:26] <daftykins> danny4way: your /boot is full by the looks. can you pastebin "df -h" ?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> danny4way,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:27] <danny4way> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201850/
[18:27] <TJ-> danny4way: Free some space ... identify what is using it all.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/73160/how-do-i-find-the-amount-of-free-space-on-my-hard-drive
[18:28] <stomanata> hI, IS IT NORMAL TO SEE LINES LIKE THIS  18:26:07.784067 IP ubuntu.local.47498 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 7415+ PTR? c.<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.0.f.f.ip6.arpa. (90)
[18:28] <daftykins> danny4way: yep you need to delete some older kernels. can you pastebin "ls -l /boot" please?
[18:28] <stomanata> ops. caps lock is on. sorry
[18:28] <subz3r0> stomanata: maybe you should explain where you got this output?
[18:29] <TJ-> danny4way: OK, what has likely happened is you've had  series of Linux kernel package upgrades but the old ones haven't been removed, which has made the /boot/ file-system run out of space. Let's find out what packages are installed. Do "dpkg -l 'linux-*'
[18:29] <stomanata> this is tcpdump over my local network (4 computer)
[18:29] <josiah14> ubuntu is not detecting my hdd
[18:29] <josiah14> trying to figure out why
[18:30] <josiah14> I'm using the p6x58d premium asus mobo, which has an ich10 southbridge chipset
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> josiah14  what'sz the output of sudo blkid ? use pastebin to show us
[18:30] <BluesKaj> josiah14, are trying an OS install?
[18:30] <josiah14> yes
[18:30] <josiah14> technically lubuntu, but I would think this issue would translate across ubuntu flavors
[18:31] <guestghost> When ubiquity installs over a previous installation of ubuntu, does it keep files in /home ?
[18:31] <josiah14> I'm in xterm now and have native network access
[18:31] <kavelot> I'm trying to push ubuntu to my gf, but she's having trouble saving an impress document as .ppt... since I'm on windows now, I don't know how to do it (she says impress doesn't show the "file type" menu)... does ubuntu provides a simple way for me to VNC to her PC, considering she's behind a router?
[18:32] <danny4way> TJ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201865/
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> guestghost, Only if home is a seperate partition and you do not over write it.
[18:32] <guestghost> wilee-nilee, ok, thanks!
[18:32] <danny4way> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201870/
[18:33] <josiah14> test
[18:33] <TJ-> kavelot: see http://imagebin.org/272946
[18:33] <vak> i can't figure out what exactly wifi-card does my Lenovo Yoga 13 has... any hints? (i tried lspci; lshw -C network)
[18:34] <kavelot> TJ-: oh, got it! thanks!
[18:34] <danny4way> TJ-,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201865/
[18:34] <TJ-> danny4way: OK, thanks, now lets find out which version is actually running "uname -r"
[18:35] <daftykins> danny4way: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-3.8.0-26-generic linux-image-3.8.0-28-generic linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[18:35] <danny4way> TJ-, 3.8.0-30-generic
[18:35] <daftykins> my above command is safe then
[18:35] <TJ-> danny4way: Follow daftykins advice now to remove those three kernel versions
[18:35] <daftykins> danny4way: then afterwards run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:36] <josiah14> http://pastebin.com/B8010LKY
[18:36] <daftykins> things should completely cleanly then
[18:36] <danny4way> Okay. Do I have to type all together with linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic or separately?
[18:36] <josiah14> thats the blkid output
[18:36] <daftykins> danny4way: paste that one long single command with each kernel package name after it
[18:36] <danny4way> Okay
[18:37] <TJ-> josiah14: How about "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/" ?
[18:38] <andreiiar> a o
[18:38] <kavelot> TJ-: found out what happened... she's running it on a netbook, so those options don't show up because the screen is small :P
[18:38] <TJ-> kavelot: !!! .... !!
[18:39] <danny4way> daftykins, DONE
[18:40] <daftykins> danny4way: did "sudo apt-get -f install" complete nice and cleanly?
[18:40] <danny4way> Oh wait.
[18:40] <loa> how i can change boot logo?
[18:40] <josiah14> pastebin.com/Wnk5anJk
[18:40] <danny4way> I forgot.
[18:41] <josiah14> http://pastebin.com/Wnk5anJk
[18:41] <loa> now i have boot logo Xubuntu 13.10
[18:41] <loa> but i not even use xubuntu
[18:41] <danny4way> daftykins, it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 45 not upgraded
[18:41] <TJ-> josiah14: It's certainly missing. What make/model of drive is it? What interface (PATA/SCSI/SATA) ?
[18:42] <daftykins> danny4way: ok now run a "sudo apt-get autoremove" (to remove some additional remnants from those older kernels)
[18:42] <josiah14> SATA 6.0
[18:42] <guestghost> Is there a significant difference in upgrading a system versus installing fresh?
[18:42] <josiah14> not sure I know the make and model of the hdd anymore
[18:43] <josiah14> I think it was a western digital caviar
[18:43] <josiah14> of some sort
[18:43] <danny4way> daftykins, done
[18:43] <josiah14> balls, this is about the only part of my hardware I don't know
[18:43] <danny4way> The last statement says "Proccessing triggers for ureadahead..... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
[18:43] <TJ-> josiah14: OK ... And have you seen it working on the same motherboard before now, connected to the same socket, etc.? My first check would be: has it got power (did the power connector come out?) then that the interface cable is secure, then I'd be checking that the motherboard BIOS/firmware reports seeing the drive from its own Setup screen at power-on
[18:44] <danny4way> daftykins
[18:44] <josiah14> well' right now I can boot windows from that drive
[18:44] <danny4way> what's the next step?
[18:44] <daftykins> danny4way: ok and now a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:44] <TJ-> josiah14: That's a good indicator! OK... which version of Ubuntu are you using right now? You can find that in a terminal using "lsb_release -a"
[18:45] <josiah14> lubuntu 13.04
[18:46] <TJ-> josiah14: Right... so my immediate thought is that the disk controller interface hardware on the motherboard is too new to have support in the Linux v3.8 kernel in Ubuntu 13.04... Can you tell me the make/model of the motherboard?
[18:46] <josiah14> p6x58d premium ASUS mobo
[18:46] <OerHeks> josiah14, maybe you have 4 primairy partitions already, so ubuntu installer sees no space/
[18:46] <TJ-> josiah14: Thanks. Give me a minute or so to look that up and check it
[18:46] <TJ-> OerHeks: Ubuntu isn't seeing the entire hard drive!
[18:47] <josiah14> sata chipset is Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port
[18:47] <josiah14> got that from the archlinux hardware analysis output on my machine
[18:48] <josiah14> actually, i'm 99% sure the 6.0 sata port that I have the drive connected to is on the 2 port sata node, same chipset though
[18:48] <TJ-> josiah14: Please read this forum thread. It appears that drives are known to 'disappear' on that controller/motherboard. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/291785-30-intermittent-sata-ports-asus-p6x58d-ahci-mode
[18:48] <OerHeks> TJ-, josiah14 on what windows?
[18:49] <josiah14> windows 7 system builders edition
[18:49] <danny4way> daftykins, so does this always happen to ubuntu?
[18:49] <OerHeks> UEFI?
[18:49] <daftykins> TJ- and josiah14 may i interject? i see your board has a second SATA controller to provide 2 extra SATA 6Gb/sec ports, can you double check that your drive is connected to the chipset provided ones and not the Marvell controller? i sense that's your problem
[18:50] <josiah14> my drive is connected to a 6.0 port
[18:50] <josiah14> 100% sure of that
[18:50] <daftykins> danny4way: it's rare to go through so many kernel updates really, also it's rare to still have a separately partitioned /boot that can fill up
[18:50] <daftykins> josiah14: yes but do you see what i mean about there being two 6Gb controllers?
[18:50] <josiah14> so that port is not running on the ICH10 southbridge?
[18:50] <josiah14> yes
[18:50] <daftykins> josiah14: it's possible, check the colour coding with the motherboard manual if you can
[18:50] <TJ-> josiah14: See the post by geraldreisner 25 June 2011 where in part he says " moved one of the two hi-speed SATA ports to the 3G SATA port. It's only been about a week, but I haven't seen the disappearing drive."
[18:51] <josiah14> theres 4 3gb and 2 6 gb sata controllers
[18:51] <danny4way> daftykins, Oh I see.
[18:51] <daftykins> josiah14: it would make sense as to why you can't see the drive if it is attached to the Marvell controller, if ubuntu isn't providing support
[18:51] <vak> i can't figure out what exactly wifi-card does my Lenovo Yoga 13 have... any hints? (i tried lspci; lshw -C network)
[18:51] <josiah14> aah
[18:51] <daftykins> vak: can you pastebin 'lspci' ?
[18:51] <josiah14> I didn't realize the 6.0 sata was on the marvell controller
[18:51] <vak> daftykins: no network on laptop! (((
[18:52] <josiah14> well, it's a normal hdd anyway, so I'm not really going to lose any speed by switching to the 3G port
[18:52] <josiah14> I'll try that out
[18:52] <TJ-> josiah14: I had a related issue to solve last week where the marvell controller cannot host boot devices, and someone had installed Ubuntu to a drive on that controller, and had spent several days failing to figure out why it wouldn't start, and reinstalling Ubuntu repeatedly.
[18:52] <josiah14> standby
[18:52] <josiah14> hmm
[18:52] <danny4way> daftykins, Done
[18:52] <daftykins> vak: flash drive to copy it off in a text file? :)
[18:52] <danny4way> What do i do next?
[18:53] <vak> daftykins: already doing this
[18:53] <josiah14> so... there is opportunity here to develop a driver for the marvell controller here?
[18:53] <daftykins> danny4way: ok by now you'll likely be worthy of a reboot to boot into a new kernel. i don't know what your previous question was but you should be set on the software front now. i don't know what your original query was :)
[18:53] <daftykins> josiah14: i've no idea if it might just require some additional setup to get working
[18:53] <danny4way> daftykins, it was just about installing eclipse .
[18:54] <DJones> Hmmh, is it good to be watching the strictly result shows and thinking who the hell are those two chipmunks up for getting kicked out
[18:54] <josiah14> meh, until i get a disk that could saturate the 3G bandwidth, I don't care too much
[18:54] <bazhang> DJones, yep
[18:54] <josiah14> when I get an SSD though, that is def something I well investigate
[18:54] <danny4way> daftykins, by the way, what is the command that install both jdk and eclipse all together for Java
[18:54] <josiah14> would like to have linux driver experience on my resume
[18:54] <daftykins> josiah14: the intel controller is providing both SATA 3 and 6Gb/sec, separate to the Marvell 6Gb, you can still run 6Gb i think you're just in the Marvell slots for it not the intel :)
[18:55] <TJ-> josiah14: The issue seems to be, not that Linux doesn't have a driver, but that the Marvell chip-set has a well-known bug in it that makes drives 'disappear'
[18:55] <daftykins> danny4way: oh ok - there are lots of guides for it online, have a quick google.
[18:55] <josiah14> that's super weird
[18:55] <TJ-> josiah14: It affects Windows and other operating systems the same way in some circumstances
[18:55] <danny4way> daftykins, oh okay. thank you very much.
[18:55] <Calinou> SATA III isn't that useful on any drive unless you do large copies, you won't feel the difference :)
[18:55] <daftykins> danny4way: no problem. it'll likely involve removing all openjdk packages, installing oracle jdk v7 then eclipse after that
[18:56] <danny4way> daftykins, thank you. I will try to google it but if I don't find any solution, then i will ask in this chatroom again
[18:57] <daftykins> sounds good
[18:57] <danny4way> datfykins, for now I need to reboot my system. Right?
[18:57] <daftykins> danny4way: yep
[18:57] <danny4way> daftykins, okay.
[18:57] <eer> Is there another cool calender program for Ubuntu except Evolution?
[18:58] <jhutchins> eer: aptitude search ~dcalendar
[18:58] <eer> What does the ~ mean?
[18:59] <jhutchins> ~d means search description.
[18:59] <Naeblis> Hello, I'm getting the following when I try to run software center. I just installed Xubuntu 13.04 and did an update: http://bpaste.net/show/U0Whif1I2b9OxA5cqP5y/
[19:01] <pfifo> Naeblis: try running it with sudo
[19:02] <jhutchins> pfifo: Shouldn't it do that automatically?
[19:02] <Naeblis> pfifo: same error
[19:02] <pfifo> jhutchins: dont know... but its erroring about auth and credentials
[19:04] <TJ-> Naeblis: See bug #1068680
[19:04] <pfifo> Naeblis: what is the output of 'echo $HTTP_PROXY'
[19:05] <Naeblis> TJ-: thanks. pfifo nothing
[19:05] <TJ-> Naeblis: In particular see comment #6 where it says "It seemed to be a problem with python-sip and python-qt4. Re-installing both packages fixed it for me"
[19:06] <danny4way> How do I install eclipse with jdk?
[19:06] <danny4way> I need that for Java.
[19:06] <benzrf> hello
[19:06] <benzrf> my audio is stuck on 'dummy output'
[19:06] <danny4way> Google doesn't really help.
[19:06] <pfifo> danny4way: 'sudo apt-get install openjdk eclipse'
[19:07] <danny4way> It says unable to locate package openjdk
[19:07] <danny4way> pfifo
[19:07] <benzrf> help?
[19:07] <pfifo> danny4way: 'sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk eclipse'
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> !find openjdk | danny4way
[19:08] <benzrf> dammit
[19:08] <pfifo> danny4way: you could use 7 instead of 6 as well, upto you
[19:09] <genii> danny4way: If you're doing work on Android with your Eclipse, use 6 and not 7
[19:09] <danny4way> That's okay. As long as I can write java code for my AP class, I don't really care , pfifo
[19:09] <lastleo85> any way to run ios on a desktop
[19:09] <lastleo85> mac or PC?
[19:09] <lastleo85> Linuc?
[19:10] <danny4way> genii, I don't really use java for android. Java is for my AP class
[19:10] <josiah14> you guys are awesome.  Got the disk recognized
[19:10] <josiah14> thanks for the help
[19:10] <genii> danny4way: Just a heads-up :)
[19:10] <jhutchins> lastleo85: Apple probably has some development utilities that might include an emulator, but you can't run it as a primary desktop, and it's not open source.
[19:10] <danny4way> pfifo, so the command is done.
[19:10] <danny4way> So does that mean I can start using my eclipse?
[19:10] <danny4way> pfifo?
[19:11] <josiah14> y'all have inspired me to contribute to the ubuntu project - this is the best linux support I've gotten to date
[19:11] <danny4way> genii, :)
[19:11] <pfifo> danny4way: technically you can write java code in gedit/nano/or whatever... and then run ./javac from the command line. you dont have to have eclipse
[19:11] <pfifo> danny4way: eclipse should be able to be found in the dash now
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> joshhunt: smart choice!
[19:11] <danny4way> What is gedit/nano?
[19:11] <pfifo> danny4way: text editors
[19:11] <jhutchins> danny4way: Text editors.
[19:12] <danny4way> Where can i find it? pfifo?
[19:12] <lastleo85> jhutchins sad isnt it?
[19:12] <danny4way> Plus yeah. Eclipse is in the dash now. but I am gonna test if it will compile.
[19:12] <vak> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/srtCrGuG
[19:12] <danny4way> Last time I installed eclipse from Software Center and it doesn't compile.
[19:12] <pfifo> gedit should be installed by default look for it in the dash... nano is a cli text editor, just get tot a term and type nano
[19:12] <danny4way> pfifo
[19:12] <vak> daftykins: sorry for lasting so long
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> i just letting you guys know i've installed a handy package to resize pictures in nautilus called: nautilus-image-converter
[19:13] <daftykins> vak: hrmm not listed, try "lsusb"?
[19:13] <pfifo> danny4way: you might have to configure eclipse to get it to work with the jdk... that subject is better asked about in #eclipse
[19:13] <danny4way> pfifo, so what if I use gedit instead of eclipse, how do i compile it?
[19:14] <pfifo> danny4way: I dont know, something todo with 'javac' program... im lost here im just a lowly C programmer
[19:15] <lastleo85> which is the best pentesting distro and its irc gys?
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !ot | lastleo85
[19:15] <danny4way> Okay. Thank you pfifo
[19:15] <pfifo> !alis | lastleo85
[19:15] <lastleo85> ubottu thaks
[19:16] <loa> how i can change boot logo?
[19:16] <genii> !bootsplash
[19:16] <jhutchins> danny4way: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialJava.html
[19:16] <vak> daftykins: also not listed. but it does present! wifi worked in windows before i tried to install ubuntu (and ruined windows)
[19:16] <genii> Hm.
[19:16] <TJ-> danny4way: Stick with Eclipse whilst you're learning; Using the Java compiler (javac) at the command-line can get confusing since you often need to pass arguments to it that reference library JAR files. IDEs figure that stuff out for you mostly.
[19:17] <daftykins> vak: hmm we should be able to at least recognise the device though
[19:17] <jhutchins> danny4way: Netbeans is another option.
[19:17] <daftykins> vak: there isn't a hardware wifi switch that's somehow switched off?
[19:17] <TJ-> danny4way: It'd be like building a multi-library C/C++ project without using make, typing all gcc commands manually :)
[19:17] <pfifo> !info libav
[19:17] <pfifo> !info libav precise
[19:17] <genii> !plymouth | loa
[19:17] <TJ-> danny4way: Alternatively, investigate the 'ant' build system for Java
[19:17] <vak> daftykins: not that i know... i've looked for it already
[19:17] <toothe> gah, slapd's documentation is "broken"
[19:17] <toothe> or so it seems
[19:18] <danny4way> so I guess  for now I would use Eclipse
[19:18] <danny4way> But right now I don't know what to do to compile my java code
[19:18] <pfifo> why is apt installing libav instead of ffmpeg? super cow powers failing?
[19:18] <Slart> pfifo: isn't libav the new ffmpeg?
[19:18] <TJ-> vak: pastebin the output of "lsusb" - it may be one of those dual-function devices that needs to be put into WiFi mode
[19:18] <jhutchins> rfkill
[19:19] <TJ-> pfifo: libav is a fork of ffmpeg which many distro's adopted since most of the developers moved to the new project
[19:19] <kongthap> i installed jdk using .sh file which download from oracle, how to uninstall it???
[19:19] <pfifo> Slart: it looks and smells like ffmpeg
[19:19] <vak> daftykins: actually i've compilled installed drivers for rtl8723au because they were mentioned somewhere on those interwebs. and it says connected but no ping even to the home router
[19:19] <vak> TJ-: one moment
[19:20] <TJ-> vak: what make/model is the laptop?
[19:20] <X98Hacker> Hello
[19:20] <daftykins> vak: the interface got an IP address ok?
[19:20] <bibi_> how to install nvidi driver in xubuntu 13.10?
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> X98Hacker: welcome what can we do for you mate?
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | bibi_
[19:21] <X98Hacker> Nothing I got sorted out by ubuntu-uk
[19:22] <X98Hacker> I am here to help as a noob I am
[19:22] <vak> TJ- daftykins: well if i try lsusb with -v or -tv then i indeed get the wifi listed!
[19:22] <pfifo> X98Hacker: you have to start in the mail room
[19:22] <X98Hacker> Lol
[19:23] <daftykins> vak: ah-har. how does it name it? the Realtek you mentioned?
[19:23] <TJ-> mail room? Nah... making everyone a cuppa!
[19:23] <X98Hacker> U wish
[19:23] <pfifo> TJ-: he would be so lucky to start on kitchen duty
[19:23] <vak> TJ- daftykins: and it is indeed rtl8723au (i hope it is not because i've installed exactly the rtl8723au, whereas it migth have wrong...)
[19:24] <vak> might have *been
[19:24]  * TJ- slopes off to bug-fix and make his own cuppa!
[19:24] <vak> daftykins: yes, interface got an IP and it is usual one: <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:24] <vak> stop
[19:25] <HAMSHAMA> I'm pretty new from windows, what do install packages look like, and how do I install them, without going through apt-get install, or the software centre?
[19:25] <dmobley88> why would phablet-bootstrap /home/(user)/fusion2/bootstrap delete stuff downloaded from the AOSP?
[19:25] <vak> daftykins: yes, interface got an IP and it is usual one: <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:25] <X98Hacker> pfifio: u will be my foot stool
[19:25] <vak> daftykins: router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> !deb | HAMSHAMA
[19:26] <HAMSHAMA> lotuspsychje: roger, thanks
[19:26] <vak> daftykins: under "RX" i see even 320 packets. But ping doesn't work
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> HAMSHAMA: apt-get however is very handy aswell
[19:26] <danny4way> Can anyone help me with Eclipse? I can't do anything.
[19:26] <dmobley88> lotuspsychje so is apt-fast. :)
[19:26] <danny4way> I am stuck.
[19:27] <X98Hacker> danny4way what's wrong
[19:27] <dmobley88> that's okay danny4way, phablet-bootstrap decided to delete stuff downloaded from the AOSP.
[19:27] <daftykins> vak: ah so it received the IP via DHCP? that's good. i'm not really experienced in the area of wireless troubles i'm afraid so you may be best seeing of someone else can help
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> dmobley88: :p
[19:27] <dmobley88> what's wrong with your wireless Hamshama?
[19:27] <dmobley88> or vak?
[19:27] <danny4way> X98Hacker, I installed JDK and eclipse but it isn't compiling
[19:28] <dmobley88> or whoever is having wireless troubble?
[19:28] <vak> daftykins: anyway thank you!
[19:28] <daftykins> vak: np :)
[19:28] <dmobley88> what message does it give you danny4way?
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> vak: maybe the ##networking guys might be able to help?
[19:29] <dmobley88> whatever you do vak, do NOT remove the dnsmasq-base.
[19:29] <danny4way> Whenever I run the code on Eclipse, it just shows the error
[19:29] <vak> ifconfig shows 320 packets under "RX". But ping doesn't work even to the home router (default gateway) -- any hints??
[19:29] <bekks> danny4way: Which error...?
[19:29] <dmobley88> have you debugged it danny4way?
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> danny4way: might be usefull to pastebin that error in chat
[19:29] <danny4way> Sure. Hold on.
[19:29] <dmobley88> um, have you run diagnostics on it danny4way?
[19:29] <danny4way> How do i run diagnostics?
[19:29] <vak> dmobley88: i don't even know how to remove it... btw, why?
[19:30] <dmobley88> because if you do that, you will have to use another computer to download every dependancy dnsmasq-base relies on manually, and dnsmasq-base itself, then use the terminal to manually install each package.
[19:31] <danny4way> Oh wait. It's working now.
[19:31] <dmobley88> I did that once, and it was not fun.
[19:31] <danny4way> It wasn't working before.
[19:31] <danny4way> bekks
[19:31] <vak> dmobley88: oh... i see, thanks
[19:31] <dmobley88> ok, so vak,
[19:31] <dmobley88> what does ifconfig show?
[19:31] <Oldschool_test> here I am testing Ubuntu 7.04, say hi people
[19:32] <dmobley88> then use lshw -C network
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> !eol | Oldschool_test
[19:32] <dmobley88> then iwconfig,
[19:32] <dmobley88> then lscpi | -i grep netw
[19:33] <dmobley88> did you recently upgrade vak?
[19:33] <ryorky1> I followed the following tutorial to try to update my php to version 5.5, and now everything is broken
[19:34] <ryorky1> all of the required files are empty
[19:34] <histo> !info php
[19:34] <histo> !info php5
[19:34] <ryorky1> how can I completely uninstall what I upgraded to and just reinstall
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> !php | ryorky1
[19:36] <pfifo> ryorky1: what guide?
[19:37] <dmobley88> ffff ffffoooooddddd fff ffffooodddd is the word ffffooood ffffooood is the word
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> dmobley88: plz keep this channel for ubuntu support only
[19:38] <dmobley88> I asked a support question
[19:38] <dmobley88> never got a response.
[19:38] <histo> dmobley88: bird is the word
[19:38] <dmobley88> no histo it's food
[19:39] <bazhang> dmobley88, take the chit chat elsewhere
[19:39] <jrib> dmobley88: making yourself annoying is not the right way to change that ;)  Repeat your question after a reasonable amount of time and wait patiently
[19:40] <Anonynimity> why would phablet-bootstrap /home/(user)/fusion2/bootstrap delete stuff downloaded from the AOSP?
[19:41] <skinux> Where can I find a list of software installed via package manager?
[19:41] <k1l> Anonynimity: no need for crossposting
[19:41] <Anonynimity> nein
[19:41] <kongthap> i installed jdk using .sh file which download from oracle, how to uninstall it???
[19:42] <pfifo> skinux: you can run 'dpkg -l'
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> kongthap: doesnt it show in software centre?
[19:42] <jrib> kongthap: you need to consult its documentation for that
[19:42] <kongthap> lotuspsychje: no, i doesn't
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> kongthap: even when unfolding to more technical packages?
[19:43] <pfifo> kongthap: read and understan every line in the script and do the opposite of what it did
[19:44] <skinux> Actually, what is the best software for creating "snapshot" images of the system which I could install again from disc?
[19:44] <pfifo> skinux: squashfs
[19:45] <skinux> Hope it can compress as well, my system is 15G and I've only got about 3 DVDs.
[19:46] <pfifo> skinux: lzma compression, its used for the livecds, i love it
[19:46] <skinux> Correction, I have 7 DVDs.
[19:46] <kongthap> lotuspsychje: i show technical items and search for java, jdk, oracle...i think it does not show
[19:47] <pfifo> kongthap: the script offered by oracle clobbers your system, your not going to be able to uninstall
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> kongthap: you might want to try what jrib and pfifo recomended you
[19:47] <skinux> Is there a SquashFS front-end or is it cli only?
[19:48] <kongthap> pfifo: you meant, i cannot install it?
[19:48] <pfifo> skinux: cli only, its only a disk imaging app, youll need to add your own magic to use it in a recovery system
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> skinux: kazam can make screenshots and system video's not sure its that what you need..
[19:49] <pfifo> kongthap: no, your not going to be able to UNinstall it
[19:50] <skinux> lotuspyschji: Primary goal is to join an empty 30G EXT4 partition with my 30G Ubuntu partition. According to some searching I've done, I have to delete both partitions, create a single 60G partition and reinstall.
[19:51] <Kalel> Greetings.
[19:51] <pfifo> skinux: not likely... can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> skinux: sorry, i focused on 'snapshot', you need cloning software of some sort?
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: welcome mate
[19:52] <skinux> I suppose so, sure.
[19:53] <skinux> WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[19:53] <calimero_82> hello
[19:53] <daftykins> hi
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> calimero_82: welcome, what can we do for you?
[19:53] <Kalel> I suppose I should uninstall my sytem's amd driver for install the newest 3.11 kernel.. Plausible !
[19:54] <pfifo> skinux: you should be able to move and merge with gparted (from a livecd)
[19:54] <CrazyZurfer_> ?
[19:55] <calimero_82> mmm nothing now, i wanted only say hello at everybody :)
[19:55] <pfifo> skinux: id have to see a screenshot of your partitions in gparted to know the details
[19:55] <Crazyzurfer> Hi
[19:55] <Crazyzurfer> how do I execute a program with the terminal?
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> Crazyzurfer: type packagename
[19:56] <skinux> I've taken a screenshot. How should I present it to you?
[19:56] <Crazyzurfer> lotuspsychje, "sudo: xampp-linux-x64-1.8.3-1-installer.run: order not found"
[19:57] <Kalel> Crazyzurfer: if there is a suffix like .sh you should run 'bash filename' or ./filename from path..
[19:57] <zexcriz> what is the difference between hosting our data on our VPS and in the other in the cloud ? i doubt there is any difference.
[19:57] <robeepal> Hi! I dont know exactly if I am in the right chat, but i have a question about Ubuntu OS for Phones, I want to know if my Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9100 is it compatible and stable with my phone ?! Thank you
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: are you using ubuntu?
[19:57] <daftykins> robeepal: #ubuntu-touch
[19:57] <robeepal> thank you
[19:57] <zexcriz> i have couple of ubuntu boxes and 1 arch and 1 debian machine.
[19:57] <bazhang> !xampp | Crazyzurfer
[19:58] <zexcriz> using ubuntu as the server machine.
[19:58] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, why you asked ?
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: the ubuntu-server guys might wanna help you on your issue also
[19:58] <Crazyzurfer> bazhang, Not requesting help about xampp, requesting help about ubuntu
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: #ubuntu-server
[19:58] <naquad> hi
[19:59] <naquad> how do i retrieve key from ubuntu keyserver? i need a direct url
[19:59] <jota> quien habla en español??
[19:59] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, ok :)
[19:59] <naquad> got this: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB9316A7BC7917B12&format=raw - but it returns html
[19:59] <Kalel> Crazyzurfer: bash filename
[19:59] <Kalel> just that..
[20:00] <Crazyzurfer> Kalel, says that it cannot ejecute the binary file :S
[20:00] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, no one here can help me ?
[20:00] <Crazyzurfer> is the same thing for .run files?
[20:00] <pfifo> skinux: i think imigur.com or something like that... or imagebin.com... or heck, post it on 4chan if all else fails
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: perhaps yes mate, but i wanted to give you more sources :p
[20:01] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, thanks for it mate :)
[20:01] <Kalel> Crazyzurfer: Yes. Try execute chmod +x filename' then run bash again
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: maybe detail out your issue more, like are you hosting own vps on ubuntu and cloud?
[20:01] <Crazyzurfer> jota: yo, but try #ubuntu-es
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: whats your purpose exactly?
[20:02] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, currently hosting a VPS and now i was curious what are advantages or disadvantages if any if go for cloud.
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: not really sure how i can relate this to ubuntu support mate sorry
[20:04] <antivapor> so, in the past i've installed all the blueman stuff blindly, I just literally searched "bluetooth" and installed it all, and it worked sorta, but would still occassionally crash. I just started with a clean install, and would like to use bluetooth but it not crash, got any tips?
[20:04] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, maybe because it's ubuntu recommends openstack for the cloud.
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> !cloud | zexcriz
[20:05] <Crazyzurfer> !xampp
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: im not really a fan of storing data online, but other might think otherwise..
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: i would go for an ubuntu server and tighten security and store data on there
[20:08] <Crazyzurfer> !nvidia
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | Crazyzurfer
[20:09] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, ok
[20:09] <lionrouge> hi ppl
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: but again maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might have other opinions..
[20:10] <lionrouge> can i somehow download Ubuntu updates and install them later on a machine w/o Internet?
[20:10] <ozgur> Hi everyone :)
[20:11] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, i have asked the question there, hope to get a solution.
[20:11] <pfifo> !aptoncd | lionrouge
[20:12] <jey> yop
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: you could also ask differences or recomended clouds in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:15] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, great :)
[20:16] <lionrouge> pfifo, thanks a lot
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | pfifo
[20:17] <Guest39673> hey guys i have a question on  motion for webcams .... where can i set a option to get at least 20 fps on webcam stream ?
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> !raid > paulus68
[20:18] <bekks> Guest39673: In the settings of your webcam. It must be capable of doing so.
[20:19] <skinux> Here is the GParted screenshot. http://imgur.com/YgJMJD0
[20:20] <kongthap> i've installed NetBeans IDE to /usr/local/ using installer (run as root) after finish the installation i don't see any shortcut to lunch the program, how can i start it?
[20:20] <genii> Guest39673: Check the config file in your home directory, usually called motion.conf . The relevant variable is: framerate #    where # is 0-100
[20:21] <joohoo> Hey guys! Do you know how I can list all running programs ordered by how much memory they're using :)?
[20:22] <k1l> joohoo: easiest is to look into htop, imho
[20:22] <kongthap> what is "Execute the launcher script by typing ./netbeans. "??? i meant i don't know how to do it
[20:23] <Guest39673> thank u genii
[20:23] <joohoo> Oh wait, right.
[20:23] <joohoo> k1l: I forgot to say it: I need to do this through the terminal
[20:23] <emj__> joohoo: I use top and press '<' and '>' until I get something I like
[20:23] <k1l> joohoo: htop is for terminal
[20:23] <joohoo> emj__: k1l: Alright! Great, I'll check that out
[20:23] <joohoo> Gotta leave, thanks for the help :)
[20:24] <KylieBrooks> hello
[20:24] <KylieBrooks> I have a question
[20:24] <k1l> !details | KylieBrooks
[20:25] <KylieBrooks> Is there a way to make KVIrc  alert when there is a new message in a channel, even when it's not a highlight?
[20:25] <jrib> kongthap: go to the directory with the "netbeans" file in your terminal, and type "./netbeans" (without quotes) followed by enter
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> KylieBrooks  better ask in #kvirc, some 100 people are there
[20:28] <kongthap> jrib: "/usr/local/netbeans-7.3.1$ ./netbeans" -> no such a file or directory
[20:28] <emj__> k1l: I just had to look up what the "real" command was: "ps -eo pid,cmd,pmem --sort -%mem"  and I'll spam you with what I got.. :-)
[20:29] <k1l> emj__: right, but "htop" is better to remember, at least for me ;p
[20:30] <emj__> indeed
[20:32] <kongthap> jrib: i can start it now it's in ../netbeans/bin but can you explain me what is this command ("./netbeans") means??
[20:34] <kongthap> jrib: why it must lead by "./"??
[20:35] <Tylertwo> kongthap: because it's not in your PATH
[20:38] <kongthap> Tylertwo: how can i make a shortcut to my application menu???
[20:39] <Tylertwo> kongthap: dunno. Is that related to your previous question?
[20:39] <pfifo> kongthap: let me give you a tip: in linux we outright shun graphical tools for doing programming tasks... if you are serious about learning java (and linux for that matter) then do everything from the command line.
[20:39] <plut0> pfifo: you around?
[20:39] <pfifo> plut0: yeah
[20:40] <plut0> pfifo: going to take another stab at this today. do you know when i need to divert initctl and what i need to reinstall?
[20:40] <pfifo> plut0: I would do the diversion at the beginning of section 5.5, and undo it right befor exiting the chroot
[20:40] <iceroot> kongthap: when you for example execute "ping" the system will look in specific directories for a program called "ping" these directories are defined by a variable called PATH, when "ping" is not found in that directores you will get "command not found". the command/script you want to execute is not in the PATH so you have to use ./ which means "the currect directory i am in"
[20:41] <pfifo> plut0: I was going to try this but I dont have a 64 bit install disk handy
[20:41] <kongthap> iceroot: it means "the current directory only", thanks
[20:42] <iceroot> kongthap: yes
[20:42] <iceroot> kongthap: there is ".." which means one directory higher and "." which means "current directory"
[20:43] <kongthap> iceroot: thanks for another tip :)
[20:43] <tking0036> Can somebody help me with my poptop pppd vpn server.. Here are the logs http://pastebin.com/cSxJJp46
[20:43] <njsg> each directory in UNIX-like systems has at least two entries: . and ..
[20:43] <njsg> . is the directory itself, .. the parent
[20:43] <njsg> is a special directory whose parent is the directory itself
[20:45] <iceroot> hm, even / is showing ".." :)
[20:45] <njsg> yes, but for /, .. is .
[20:45] <njsg> as in, it's the same
[20:46] <iceroot> is "." and ".." comming from bash? or from the file-system itself?
[20:46] <njsg> no, file system
[20:46] <njsg> "ls -lia /", that shows the inode numbers on the first column
[20:46] <njsg> note how . and .. have the same
[20:47] <njsg> that means they are the same file (directories *are* files)
[20:47] <iceroot> njsg: thx
[20:47] <njsg> this is at the filesystem level, although filesystems are expected to have something similar to this, and may have to be adapted when you mount them. but usually filesystems have some tree structure with a root
[20:47] <pfifo> It seems like it comes from the kernel over the filesystem, you get . and .. on vfat and ntfs as well, so it cant be the filesystem
[20:47] <njsg> so this part is usually easy to have
[20:48] <njsg> on UNIX filesystems, it is in the filesystem, others may have to adapt
[20:48] <njsg> I Don't remember how FAT deals with this, though
[20:48] <njsg> but I'm sure Tanenbaum explains that :-D
[20:48] <xray_> exit
[20:50] <xray> I need help installing ubuntu from a dual partitioned system (just want linux by itself)
[20:50] <anonymous_> OI
[20:51] <anonymous_> tem brasil ai
[20:51] <genii> !br | anonymous_
[20:52] <pfifo> !install | xray
[20:52] <xray> tks ubottu
[20:53] <anonymous_> br
[20:53] <tking0036> Do you guys think I should just reinstall
[20:54] <tapout> i have to recompile opencv, but i wanted to use the flags that ubuntu distro's had but add WITH_QT ...  how can I see what flags they used?
[20:54] <anonymous_> me ajuda ai
[20:54] <anonymous_> galera
[20:54] <jrib> !source | tapout
[20:54] <jrib> tapout: read debian/rules in the source package.  Why do you need to recompile?