[07:25] <K-Ryan> Shortcut to the applet maybe?
[07:25] <miles> you could make an icon file, place it in your Desktop folder, have it perform action to close all windows
[07:25] <miles> yea
[07:26] <arun> miles: keyboard shortcut?
[07:26] <uadever> such a shortcut can't be created with kcontrol?
[07:26] <miles> i meant yea, i was agreeing with k-ryan
[07:26] <uadever> (I only managed to find out about alt+f3 after one week of searching)
[07:28] <uadever> what would hda2-4 have been, I only have a main and a swap partition on this laptop?
[07:28] <uadever> misplaced question mark, sorry
[07:28] <K-Ryan> uadever: Okay, but then why do you have an hda5?
[07:29] <K-Ryan> uadever: It's okay =P
[07:29] <uadever> I have no idea
[07:29] <K-Ryan> You could probably remove the line then
[07:30] <miles> !knoppix
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <miles> what do i type to see all the / commands?
[07:30] <K-Ryan> !distributions
[07:30] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[07:30] <raylu> miles, tab-tab
[07:30] <miles> tab-tab
[07:30] <miles> no
[07:30] <miles> what?
[07:30] <raylu> press tab twice
[07:30] <miles> nothin
[07:30] <raylu> o.0
[07:31] <K-Ryan> lol
[07:31] <miles> i dont get it
[07:31] <raylu> run this command: . /etc/bash_completion
[07:31] <K-Ryan> "display all 1947 entires?"
[07:31] <raylu> then press tab twice in the konsole again
[07:31] <uadever> if I remove the line, do I risk anything?
[07:31] <raylu> (or did you not do it in the console the first time?)
[07:31] <miles> wait what?
[07:31] <K-Ryan> uadever: Just make a backup of the file, just in case
[07:31] <raylu> miles, you want to see everything you can use in the konsole, right?
[07:31] <miles> no, everything i can use in konversation using /
[07:32] <K-Ryan>  /help
[07:32] <miles> o
[07:32] <K-Ryan> Start there
[07:32] <K-Ryan> =P
[07:32] <miles> i was trying /?
[07:32] <viraj> can anyone help me with wifi?
[07:32] <miles> yea i got a solution
[07:32] <viraj> i get message 'no dhcp offers recieved'
[07:32] <miles> what are you using? desktop or laptop?
[07:32] <viraj> laptop
[07:33] <miles> o..i might not be able to help you then.  I just did a brilliant work around for desktop wifi
[07:33] <miles> you could still do it, but it might detract from laptop usability
[07:33] <viraj> i could try!
[07:33] <miles> ok
[07:33] <miles> i assume you already have 1 ap
[07:33] <miles> right?
[07:34] <viraj> i didn't understand (newbie here)
[07:34] <miles> access point?
[07:34] <viraj> yes
[07:34] <uadever> k-ryan, wait a minute, in the line below hda5 it says "swap"
[07:34] <miles> ok, see, i have my access point upstairs, and my wireless pci card in my desktop downstairs
[07:34] <K-Ryan> Yes but the partitions should be hda1 and hda2
[07:34] <K-Ryan> Oh right, you don't have an hda2
[07:34] <K-Ryan> It might just be misnamed, leave it
[07:34] <miles> the card couldnt work under linux, so the work around i did...
[07:34] <K-Ryan> Good call uadever!
[07:35] <arun> is there no way to minimise everything to the desktop with a keyboard shortcut? seems absurd.. i think you can do it with beryl and metacity, but how come you can't set a shortcut using kwin?
[07:35] <miles> i bought another linksys router, i had 2 now, and flashed it with dd-wrt
[07:35] <miles> dd-wrt is able to turn a linksys router into a wireless bridge, so i did that, plugged it in downstairs with my linux box
[07:35] <miles> and now i can even play my ps2 online downstairs
[07:35] <uadever> thing is, I'd like to see and manage, if possible, the options for automounting of filesystems
[07:35] <miles> it can mount samba shares
[07:36] <uadever> to check if somehow ntfs has been taken off the list
[07:37] <miles> dd-wrt can mount samba shares
[07:37] <K-Ryan> uadever: Those are them
[07:37] <Biovore> konqueror can do samba
[07:37] <uadever> from the graphic system settings menu I can't seem to gain root access to the disk&partitions section
[07:37] <Biovore> try smb://<computer_name>
[07:38] <miles> konqueror > firefox?
[07:38] <Biovore> in some cases yes..
[07:38] <miles> in web browsing no
[07:38] <miles> but everything else..yea sure
[07:38] <uadever> if those are them can you tell from what I pasted if ntfs read is enabled
[07:38] <miles> ntfs is read enabled and nothing else
[07:38] <K-Ryan> !ntfs-3g
[07:38] <K-Ryan> !fuse
[07:38] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:38] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:38] <Biovore> yeah.. write is disabled by default on ntfs
[07:39] <raylu> =\
[07:39] <raylu> i mounted an ntfs drive as
[07:39] <raylu> *with
[07:39] <uadever> thing is, read doesn't work for me
[07:39] <raylu> sudo mount /dev/sda2 sda2
[07:39] <raylu> and it's owned by root :(
[07:39] <raylu> i can't read without using su
[07:39] <uadever> I'm sure that's not my case
[07:40] <uadever> before the upgrade I did not need root to read from the removable hd
[07:40] <evsophomore2009> Hey just wondering...I know its kinda a stupid question...Is Kubuntu able to get Virus's?
[07:40] <dsmith> in short yes
[07:40] <dsmith> kubuntu, meaning Linux
[07:41] <raylu> its not removable
[07:41] <raylu> and it's not automatically mounted either
[07:41] <uadever> the one I'm having troubles is removable
[07:41] <miles> a virus is kind of a broad term
[07:41] <uadever> and upon plugging it I'd see a konqueror dialog asking me what I wanted to be done
[07:41] <miles> dont you think raylu?
[07:41] <evsophomore2009> So is a virus protecter a good option than?
[07:42] <miles> laser mouse crushes an optical mouse any day
[07:42] <Guilty_as_Sin> it may help the people you talk to to more so than it helps you..
[07:42] <uadever> after the upgrade the dialog would still show up, but upon choosing "open in window" I'd get nothing
[07:42] <miles> did you try ctl+alt+del ?
[07:42] <miles> omg rofl!
[07:42] <miles> sorry
[07:42] <miles> guys dont hate me for that
[07:42] <arun> hahaha
[07:43] <uadever> and I would not find it in the /media directory
[07:43] <uadever> where the other partition regularly did show up
[07:43] <evsophomore2009> Any good free virus Protecters with Kubuntu?
[07:43] <miles> avg
[07:43] <K-Ryan> !virus
[07:43] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:43] <miles> avg is for linux i beleive
[07:43] <miles> believe
[07:43] <miles> yea
[07:44] <uadever> thing is, on a different computer with ubuntu 6.06 I have no trouble mounting either partition
[07:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> there is a windows avg on cnet
[07:44] <K-Ryan> That's because avg is for Windows
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Dunno if they have a linux client
[07:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> ah'
[07:44] <miles> hey guys i gotta go mug someone for their dreamcast gear
[07:44] <miles> brb
[07:45] <klobster> raylu: man mount, and edit fstabs.
[07:46] <klobster> raylu: from man mount: NTFS "By default, the files are owned by root and not readable by somebody else."
[07:47] <klobster> line 831
[07:47] <raylu> o.0
[07:47] <raylu> there's no way to do it with an option; it must be changed in fstab?
[07:48] <klobster> uid=value, gid=value and umask=value
[07:49] <klobster> line 829, mount manpage; mount options for ntfs
[07:49] <klobster> in other words, no it doesn't need fstabs
[07:52] <raylu> hm...i'm kinda group-retarded
[07:52] <raylu> i would want to set the gid to my user, right?
[07:52] <raylu> and leave it owned by root?
[07:54] <Biovore> raylu: or a group your user is in..
[07:54] <klobster> gid as your users group, yes
[08:05] <raylu> what's  :avah?
[08:05] <raylu> i have eth0:avah and wlan0:avah
[08:07] <crimsun> avahi.
[08:07] <klobster> !avahi
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <klobster> !info avahi
[08:07] <ubotu> Package avahi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:07] <crimsun> apt-cache show avahi-autoipd
[08:07] <crimsun> read the Description.
[08:11] <miltos> my usb stick is not recognised anymore when attached to usb port...what can I do?
[08:11] <raylu> anyway to disable it? and what causes feisty to enable it?
[08:11] <raylu> miltos, are you on the original account?
[08:12] <miltos> raylu, original account?
[08:12] <raylu> as in the first feisty account
[08:12] <raylu> if you created another account and are logged into that, you may not have permission to access usb devices
[08:13] <klobster> s/account/user/
[08:13] <miltos> raylu, then i am on the origianl account
[08:15] <miltos> anyone help?
[08:28] <LeandroArgentino> Hello
[08:28] <klobster> olleh
[08:29] <thunderbolt> Fresh install, hehe.
[08:31] <thunderbolt> Anyone here ever use the w3c validator tools?
[08:33] <LeandroArgentino> Help. I ve intalled Kubuntu. Then I've intalled Genome_desktop and I like this.
[08:34] <LeandroArgentino> can I unistall Kde? How
[08:34] <skollie> miltos: is your problem resolved?
[08:34] <LeandroArgentino> (sorry, my English is Dramatic!)
[08:34] <klobster> how do I add a new splash theme?  theme.rc isn't recognized :(
[08:36] <klobster> LeandroArgentino: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu_desktop
[08:43] <[1] raylu> *kubuntu-desktop
[08:43] <[1] raylu> i just used
[08:43] <[1] raylu> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "2WIRE668"
[08:43] <[1] raylu> and doing iwconfig eth0 again still shows "off/any"
[08:44] <[1] raylu> iwconfig wlan0 essid on tells me invalid argument
[08:47] <miles> ok
[08:47] <miles> so whats new
[08:56] <ksivaji> i got this message when i tried to change resolution "the module for monitor and display cant be loaded" now i cant change resolution what to do ?
[09:14] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[09:14] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:21] <miltos> the usb icon doesn't appear on my desktop when i hook my external hd usb drive...any solutions???
[09:28] <joseph> I have that same problem using KDE miltos but it works fine in Gnome
[09:30] <miles> hello
[09:30] <miles> where my doggs at
[09:30] <miles> woof woof
[09:30] <miles> meow
[09:30] <joseph> Hello miles
[09:30] <miles> sorry im tired
[09:30] <miles> ill talk to yall lata
[09:36] <sx66> How do you get USB devices working under kubuntu, only 1 out of 3 usb(s) mount.
[09:50] <ksivaji> sx66 have you tried manual mount
[09:51] <sx66> how?
[09:52] <ksivaji> sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt
[09:54] <ksivaji> sx66 have you tried ?
[09:56] <sx66> sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt
[09:56] <sx66> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:56] <ksivaji> yes
[09:57] <KjellviZ> can someone explain to me the biggest difference between say pclinux os and kubuntu?
[09:57] <KjellviZ> differences*
[09:58] <pag> KjellviZ, different repos, different communities...  iirc they're both debian -based, so to too big differences between them...
[09:58] <ksivaji> sx66   sudo mount udf  /dev/sda /mnt
[09:59] <KjellviZ> pag: ok, cos im currently using pclos, but considering kubuntu instead
[10:00] <thern> i want to remove openoffice (since i never use it anyway), but it depends on language-pack-xx, a meta package.. can i safely remove that one ? (seing other things seemingly depend on it as well..)
[10:00] <KjellviZ> pag: mainly due to community
[10:00] <pag> KjellviZ, great choise :D
[10:01] <KjellviZ> pag: but i see on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellXPSM1710 that feisty doesent support my monitor in the correct resolution
[10:01] <KjellviZ> pag: does that mean out of the box, its possible to fix, or not at all ?
[10:01] <ksivaji> !kubuntu
[10:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[10:01] <pag> thern, hmm? I managed to remove OOo without any problems yesterday :-/
[10:01] <ksivaji> !edubuntu
[10:01] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[10:02] <thern> well apt says.. the following packages will be removed: etc.. etc.. language-support-en etc etc...
[10:02] <ksivaji> is the any way to  quick reboot
[10:02] <ksivaji> do*
[10:03] <pag> KjellviZ, to be honest I don't know... never used a laptop myself
[10:03] <pag> thern, please pastebin the output of command "sudo apt-get remove openoffice-data"
[10:04] <KjellviZ> pag: ok, im just wondering if that means i should go with Edgy instead
[10:04] <thern> meh.. don't have openoffice-data.. openoffice-core i do have:) will paste that
[10:04] <pag> oh sorry... s/ openoffice-data / openoffice.org-base
[10:04] <aznpridechinese> i don't think linux would be very suited for school, especially elementary/junior/high school. since most of the teachers there don't know jack about computers in the first place.
[10:05] <pag> thern, oh yeah... sorry.. -core that is :D
[10:05] <thern> pag: it's localized output though
[10:05] <pag> thern, I'll try to undestand :)
[10:06] <thern> pag: http://pastebin.com/d1ab7828e
[10:06] <pag> aznpridechinese, we had about 60/40 per cent rate of Windows' and Ubuntus in our school, and we did just fine :)
[10:08] <pag> thern, language-support-xx is just a meta-package, so it can be safely removed..  I'm more worried about thunderbird-locale-en-gb as it shouldn't depend on OOo
[10:10] <thern> pag: don't have thunderbird installed anyway.. maybe the locale just was left behind..
[10:11] <pag> thern, probably yes.. then you shouldn't worry at all :)
[10:15] <Dragon_1212> yo
[10:15] <Dragon_1212> how is everyone doing
[10:16] <trakinas> leaving
[10:16] <trakinas> ired
[10:16] <trakinas> *tired
[10:16] <trakinas> frustrated
[10:16] <Dragon_1212> lol
[10:16] <trakinas> losiung the game
[10:16] <trakinas> *losing
[10:16] <trakinas> cheers all
[10:21] <theea> hello
[10:23] <theea> i have a question: i used wine to install yahoo messenger everithing is ok but when i want to start aplication i use the comand open with wine and nothing happend
[10:28] <chips> hello
[10:33] <ubuntu> hi there
[10:33] <Kjellviz> &msg nickserv identify jalla
[10:33] <Kjellviz> zomg
[10:33] <Kjellviz> lol
[10:33] <Kjellviz> anyways
[10:34] <Kjellviz> im running kubuntu livecd
[10:34] <Kjellviz> and wondering if it doesent mount my HDD by default ?
[10:34] <pag> Kjellviz, it doesn't, so the partitioning would be easier
[10:34] <Kjellviz> ok
[10:34] <Kjellviz> but when installed
[10:35] <Kjellviz> will it mount them automatically _
[10:35] <Kjellviz> and even my windows partitions ?
[10:35] <pag> Kjellviz, well it should..
[10:35] <Kjellviz> sounds like its fishy business :P
[10:36] <Kjellviz> but if it doesent
[10:36] <Kjellviz> i guess its not very hard to fix it so it will mount them at boot _
[10:36] <Kjellviz> ?
[10:36] <Kjellviz> (damn foreign keyboard setup)
[10:37] <pag> Kjellviz, then somebody will quickly quide you how to make them mount ;)
[10:37] <Kjellviz> saweet
[10:37] <Kjellviz> thats the kind of answer which is the reason why im now moving from PCLinuxOS to Kubuntu!
[10:37] <pag> :D
[10:38] <Kjellviz> yesterday i got yelled at in their support channel for "telling people to install mandrake packages which was not supported"
[10:38] <Kjellviz> when all i was doing was asking what packages that COULD be installed
[10:38] <Kjellviz> ><
[10:39] <pag> Kjellviz, well don't worry, we don't yell.. we just tell our dear ubotu to inform someone, if (s)he's doing something wrong :)
[10:42] <arun> http://themasterplan.in/2007/07/15/sexy-smooth-fonts-on-kubuntu/   <-- if anyone is interested
[10:43] <Darkrift411> where do i chnage the color of the text on each task button on the kicker?
[10:44] <pag> Darkrift411, if I understood you right, that setting is only available in 3.5.7
[10:44] <Darkrift411> hrmmmmm
[10:44] <Darkrift411> i think ive changed it before
[10:44] <Darkrift411> right now, the text is black
[10:44] <Darkrift411> and i have a black taskbar
[10:45] <Kjellviz> pag: i know, been a ubuntu user before, thats why im changing back !! :)
[10:45] <pag> Darkrift411, in earlier versions it can be changed only with the whole theme. 3.5.7 provides a custom option for taskbar only
[10:46] <Darkrift411> i c
[10:46] <Darkrift411> whats the easiest way to upgrade kde?
[10:47] <Darkrift411> im down with newer versions :)
[10:47] <sx66> hey
[10:47] <pag> Darkrift411, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[10:47] <VI_Lenin> Hi people! Can you please tell me how to get  log of kernel-stage boot? For troubleshooting.
[10:48] <sx66> my usb does not mount off of the hdd, it does off of the live cd...what is the deal?
[10:50] <pag> VI_Lenin, logfiles are located in /var/log/ you might be intrested in syslog and boot... I'm not sure about those though
[10:50] <sx66> how do I mount usb drives?
[10:50] <pag> sx66, sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mount/point
[10:52] <sx66> mount: mount point /mount/point does not exist pag
[10:53] <pag> sx66, the command I gave was an example :)  you'll have to kreate your mountpoint  ie. sudo mkdir /mount/myusb
[10:53] <evilmm> rofl
[10:53] <VI_Lenin> Unfortunately, syslog is empty, boot stores just "(Nothing has been logged yet.)". Can I turn kernel messages logging on?
[10:54] <sx66> how do I create a mount point?
[10:54] <Darkrift411> ok, i did what the page said
[10:54] <Darkrift411> but "kde" doesnt show as upgradeable
[10:54] <Darkrift411> lots of kde apps do, and some of the libs and themes have upgrades, but kde itself doesnt
[10:55] <pag> sx66, sudo mkdir /mount/myusb  or sudo mkdit /mount/point
[10:55] <VI_Lenin> My Feisty didn't boot completely yet
[10:55] <pag> Darkrift411, it's how it should be :)
[10:55] <Darkrift411> ok
[10:55] <Darkrift411> just making sure
[10:55] <pag> Darkrift411, kde itself is just a metapackage that isn't even istalled by default
[10:55] <Darkrift411> i c
[10:56] <Darkrift411> so kde just installs all the other crap that make up kde itself?
[10:56] <Darkrift411> that what you mean?
[10:56] <Marner> Darkrift411, yes
[10:57] <pag> Darkrift411, 'kde' installs lots of apps that are more or less controlled by KDE -project... most of them are useless, since Kubuntu provides better alternatives
[10:58] <Darkrift411> i c
[10:58] <Darkrift411> i wonder what all kde 3.90 has thats different
[10:58] <pag> Darkrift411, kde as in desktop-enviroment is mostly installed by kdebase -package
[10:59] <pag> Darkrift411, kde 3.90 is alpha version of upcoming KDE4
[10:59] <Darkrift411> oh really?
[10:59] <Darkrift411> cause they both have diff pages
[10:59] <Darkrift411> diff packages too
[11:00] <Tron04> Hello, is it possible to use the hardware capabilities of the SBlive sound card also in Kubuntu/Linux. I searched the available mixer applications, but did not find a suitable one. Especially I want to fiddle around with the hardware effects the emu10k1 processor provides (like parametric eq, reverb, chorus, distortion etc.). In Win there is the Creative Surround Mixer application or the kx project. Any tipps where to start to find my sol
[11:00] <Tron04> Linux?
[11:00] <pag> Darkrift411, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php  notice the " kde4-3.90.1 "
[11:01] <Darkrift411> i c
[11:01] <Darkrift411> good to know
[11:01] <Darkrift411> i heard kde4 is way off from useable
[11:01] <Darkrift411> and i was about to try 3.90
[11:01] <Darkrift411> this kde upgrade is boggin gmy system down bad
[11:02] <pag> Darkrift411, don't... KDE4 *is* far from usable... really really far
[11:02] <Darkrift411> yeah
[11:03] <ggarlic> maybe
[11:03] <Darkrift411> i like betas, but not alphas
[11:03] <Darkrift411> is there by any chance a way to restart kde without having certain apps close?
[11:03] <arun> Darkrift411: you can save your session
[11:04] <arun> and once it restarts, it will load those apps again in the same state
[11:04] <Darkrift411> but xchat would still disconnect
[11:04] <manu_> hi i installed timidity, put snd-seq in /etc/modules, made modprobe of it, started timidty as server, but kmid gives me the following error
[11:04] <manu_> is this a ubuntu specific bug?
[11:04] <Darkrift411> i wrote some scripts that do channel/server maintenance elsewhere that i hate to stop if i dont have to
[11:04] <manu_> Cannot connect to 20:0
[11:04] <manu_> Player :: Couldn't play !
[11:04] <Darkrift411> which is why i hate rebooting
[11:05] <manu_> pmid and timidity play the midi files well
[11:05] <manu_> but i want the graphical karaoke feature of kmid ...
[11:05] <ggarlic> sorry to interrupt you,i'm a rookie using linux.who can tell me what's the difference between kde and gnome.just make a simple explanation.thank you
[11:06] <arun> hey ggarlic
[11:07] <ggarlic> yeah,i'm here
[11:07] <Tron04> Kde: more configuration options for various settings, Gnome: More focused configuration options. KDE uses QT, Gnome uses GTK libs
[11:08] <ggarlic> thank you Tron04.
[11:08] <arun> KDE is nicer overall, but again that depends on your personal preferences
[11:11] <ggarlic> and also thank you arun.i'm student from china.and i'm doing all my best to study linux.
[11:11] <Darkrift> thx guys
[11:11] <Darkrift> my upgrade seems to have went well
[11:12] <Darkrift> i see where to change the text color, but is there a way to change the font or font size?
[11:13] <Tron04> Arun: The niceness is a fading thing. First you think: wow, these windows anymate nicely when opening and closing them. But after some usage you just want to a windows to open immediately with no fancy effects. I have not found my favorite Windowmanager yet, but I think xfce will do it...
[11:13] <arun> I don't use any fancy effects
[11:13] <arun> Everything works pretty fast for me
[11:14] <arun> Darkrift: font size of what
[11:16] <pag> Darkrift, kcontrol -> Appearance.. -> Fonts -> taskbar font
[11:18] <Darkrift> nice
[11:22] <Diki> bananas
[11:33] <Dimitry|> hi
[11:33] <Dimitry|> wie mach ich das beryl der standard wm ist?
[11:42] <_gtt_> right
[11:43] <Darkrift> im soo damned tired of seeing these badass screenshots of other users linux desktops and never being able to get anywhere near the same look
[11:44] <monzie> can someone please tell me how to generate rmd160 for a file?
[11:44] <vzduch> !language | Darkrift
[11:44] <ubotu> Darkrift: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:44] <_gtt_> dang
[11:44] <_gtt_> obutu's strict
[11:45] <Kjellviz> ahh how good this fresh install of kubuntu feels
[11:46] <Darkrift> vzduch, daytime television is allowed to say a lot worse then that word, and i fail to see how that combination of those 2 words are un family friendly
[11:46] <Darkrift> b**** a** p**** are all allowed on "family" tv these days
[11:47] <Darkrift> not trying to start an arguement, just stating an opinion
[11:48] <Darkrift> !broadcom
[11:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:48] <vzduch> well, if it were for me, I hadn't said anything.. us Europeans are much more relaxed in this respect than those Americans.. :>
[11:49] <Darkrift> heh
[11:49] <Darkrift> tell me about it
[11:49] <Darkrift> after seeing some european tv shows i no longer feel i have a "potty mouth"
[11:50] <Darkrift> but its all in the context
[11:50] <Darkrift> someone in here told me about a bcm43xx driver that was new that i should try, but i wasnt able to that day'
[11:50] <Darkrift> wish i could find it again
[11:50] <vzduch> if I just recall an interview of a Dutch radio DJ w/ the member of an American band some years ago, where the DJ said, "He doesn't believe we can say 'f*ck' on the radio.." *gg*
[11:51] <Darkrift> heh
[11:51] <Darkrift> the word i hear in british tv shows that doesnt fly in the us is c**t
[11:52] <Darkrift> its every 4th word in some of thier shows
[11:52] <Darkrift> but if you say it in the us, you get slapped by any female in a 40ft radius
[11:52] <vzduch> hehe
[11:53] <Darkrift> thats the word i say when i really want to piss off a female
[11:53] <kuukkeli> how i install the damn tahoma font? :E
[11:53] <Darkrift> ive used it twice (very sparingly)
[11:53] <kuukkeli> I need tahoma font for steam
[11:53] <Lynoure> Darkrift: Do you have a support question about that?
[11:53] <bart_> Can somebody help me, I installed my nvidia driver and now I only have a blinking cursor thing...
[11:53] <Darkrift> about what?
[11:53] <vzduch> kuukkeli: you either have it or you don't, it's nowhere to be found on the 'net
[11:54] <Lynoure> Darkrift: indeed...
[11:54] <Darkrift> exactly.....
[11:54] <kuukkeli> vzduch, how so?
[11:54] <vzduch> kuukkeli: comes w/ M$ Office e.g.
[11:55] <bart_> Can someone help me please :)
[11:55] <Dragon_1212> wtf
[11:55] <Dragon_1212> omg wtf is up with beryl
[11:55] <Dragon_1212> it keep f****g up
[11:55] <Darkrift> how do i find out what driver im using for my wifi?
[11:56] <Darkrift> dont remember if im using the "native" driver or ndiswrapper
[11:57] <runlevelten> beryl = experimental.
[11:57] <kuukkeli> vzduch, then how some people who uses linux has Tahoma? =D
[11:57] <kclauw> anyone else ever had a problem with fmtutil.cnf and tetex?
[11:58] <Lynoure> Darkrift: you could possibly see it with lsmod as a loaded module.
[11:58] <vzduch> kuukkeli: I think you can answer that question yourself. :>
[11:58] <runlevelten> Microsoft released those fonts to the general public some time ago.
[11:59] <vzduch> kclauw: tetex is deprecated, use TeXLive :)
[11:59] <Darkrift> ieee80211              34760  2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac
[11:59] <Darkrift> i see that
[11:59] <vzduch> runlevelten: Tahoma is not part of the M$ TrueType Core fonts
[11:59] <Darkrift> but how do i fidn out if its ndiswrapper or the native driver
[11:59] <kclauw> vzduch: I tried that, but then I still need tetex-base according to Adept
[12:00] <vzduch> kclauw: possible, I didn't get around using LaTeX yet :(
[12:01] <vzduch> my aptitude installed it as a dependency for ubuntustudio
[12:02] <kclauw> vzduch: thx anyway
[12:03] <runlevelten> vzduch: You're right, I'm thinking of Trebuchet
[12:04] <kuukkeli> vzduch, i found the font
[12:05] <kuukkeli> but where are the linux's font folder?
[12:06] <pag> kuukkeli, just a guess: /usr/share/fonts ?
[12:06] <vzduch> kuukkeli: try 'fonts:/' in your favourite file manager (personal fonts) or use the font installation function in the Control Center in sysadmin mode for system-wide fonts
[12:07] <runlevelten> yeah, kcontrol's fonts section ftw
[12:07] <runlevelten> Too many icky font problems over the years to feel guilty about using the gui too.
[12:07] <arun> usr/share/fonts is correct
[12:07] <runlevelten> heh
[12:08] <vzduch> the actual directories are ~/.fonts/ (personal) and /usr/share/fonts/ (system-wide; nicely divided into subdirectories)
[12:09] <kuukkeli> vzduch, you mean Adept manager?
[12:11] <vzduch> kuukkeli: no, Konqueror, Krusader, whatever
[12:11] <kuukkeli> Oh
[12:11] <Trunkkis> Is it possible to re-istall kubuntu without deleting your files from harddriwe?
[12:12] <kuukkeli> i think so yes
[12:12] <vzduch> Trunkkis: depends on what you want to keep
[12:12] <vzduch> and on your partition layout
[12:12] <kuukkeli> "MAH PORN!"
[12:12] <vzduch> sure :D
[12:13] <Trunkkis> :P I'd like to save my music
[12:13] <kuukkeli> and porn
[12:13] <Trunkkis> no... no porn
[12:13] <kuukkeli> :O
[12:13] <kuukkeli> you fag? =o
[12:13] <Trunkkis> nope
[12:13] <Trunkkis> I've got a girlfriend ^^
[12:13] <vzduch> it's always adviseable to have a separate partition for /home, then you can keep your user and all the settings and files
[12:13] <kuukkeli> and i'm santaclaus ^_____________________________________^
[12:14] <Trunkkis> >.<
[12:14] <vzduch> if not, you should back up /home/yourUserName/
[12:14] <Lynoure> These Ubuntu channels are not what they used to be...
[12:14] <vzduch> Lynoure: why?
[12:14] <kuukkeli> Beware of the raper Bears filled with viagra and rabid bunnies and CANNIBAL DUCKS! real threat of humankind
[12:14] <Lynoure> vzduch: 'why' I don't know. Will 'how' suffice?
[12:14] <Trunkkis> vzduch: and how can I do that and where?
[12:15] <arun> hello Lynoure
[12:15] <Diki> Is there a way to have a sound play when you receive a PM in Konversation?
[12:16] <vzduch> Trunkkis: there's a number of possibilities.. possibly the easiest way is to just tar /home/yourUserName/ together & put the resulting .tar archive on another partition or burn to DVD
[12:16] <runlevelten> diki: settings>configure notifications
[12:16] <Lynoure> vzduch: this used to be a support channel quite suitable for even 10 year old kubuntu users... But nowadays there is a lot of stuff not that suitable, and no one seems to care.
[12:16] <pag> Diki, yup. Settings -> Configure Notifications
[12:16] <Trunkkis> ok
[12:16] <Lynoure> hi arunkale
[12:16] <runlevelten> Lynoure: not generally there isn't. There's the odd exception, of course.
[12:17] <Trunkkis> well i've only one partition and my dvd-burning is not working
[12:17] <Kjellviz> when ive installed Nvidia drivers, it says im supposed to run this "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[12:17] <Kjellviz> is that ok ?
[12:17] <Kjellviz> i remember that caused me some headache in ubuntu last time
[12:18] <Kjellviz> could not start x afterwards ><
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> are you trying to install nvidia driver kjell?
[12:18] <Kjellviz> yes
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> i can help
[12:18] <Kjellviz> from the repos
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> i've mastered it
[12:18] <pag> Lynoure, so you'd prefer tougher moderation here?
[12:18] <Kjellviz> sweet thank you
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> what card do you have?
[12:18] <Kjellviz> 7900 GS
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> well... mastered my 8800gtx that is
[12:18] <Kjellviz> laptop version
[12:18] <Lynoure> pag: or dropping the CoC pretense, either or.
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> are you able to use the version from nvidia.com?
[12:18] <Kjellviz> but its a PCIe card nevertheless
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> so is mine
[12:18] <Kjellviz> no idea
[12:19] <aznpridechinese> ok try this
[12:19] <aznpridechinese> gonna take me a min to type up all the info
[12:19] <Kjellviz> np ill wait ^^
[12:19] <vzduch> aznpridechinese: use the provided packages if you can
[12:19] <aznpridechinese> provided packages dont' work
[12:19] <Kjellviz> they dont ?
[12:19] <vzduch> for the 8800 you can't afaik, but the 7900 should run on these
[12:20] <aznpridechinese> well if you know better than you give him the instructions... i'll just go back to watching my movies
[12:20] <Kjellviz> i had it running on my 6600gt using provided packages
[12:20] <Kjellviz> but i had some issues with that "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" rendering my X useless ><
[12:21] <Kjellviz> had to manually reconfigre xorg.conf afterwards
[12:21] <Kjellviz> buuut
[12:21] <Kjellviz> aznpridechinese: please continue
[12:22] <pag> Kjellviz, installing nvidia-glx-new  should work...
[12:22] <aznpridechinese> ok before anything, type this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:22] <aznpridechinese> then enable all the resolutions you want xserver to use, it'll default to the highest resolution possible
[12:22] <vzduch> aznpridechinese: the -phigh option causes some other settings in xorg.conf to get lost
[12:22] <aznpridechinese> then you'll want to download the driver from nvidia.com
[12:23] <pag> aznpridechinese, that command isn't really reccomended for those, that don't use en_US kb-layout
[12:23] <aznpridechinese> he doesn't?
[12:23] <Kjellviz> nope
[12:23] <aznpridechinese> ok nvm that options then
[12:23] <aznpridechinese> option
[12:23] <Kjellviz> lol ok
[12:23] <Kjellviz> pag: is that the driver in Adept ?
[12:23] <pag> Kjellviz, yup.
[12:23] <Kjellviz> well ok
[12:23] <aznpridechinese> but do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:24] <aznpridechinese> then type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:24] <aznpridechinese> then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
[12:24] <aznpridechinese> then sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules*
[12:24] <jpatrick> hi Hobbsee
[12:24] <vzduch> aznpridechinese: hold on a sec, we're trying to install from the repo.. if that fails, you can come up w/ your variant :)
[12:24] <Kjellviz> holy mother of....
[12:24] <Kjellviz> lol
[12:25] <Kjellviz> well i can try repos first
[12:25] <Kjellviz> n
[12:25] <aznpridechinese> and then there should be a line that says DISABLED_MODULES=""to DISABLED_MODULES="" type nv in between the last ""
[12:25] <Kjellviz> np*
[12:25] <aznpridechinese> ok
[12:25] <Kjellviz> but
[12:25] <Kjellviz> as i said
[12:25] <Kjellviz> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:25] <aznpridechinese> i'll go watch my movie then
[12:25] <Kjellviz> will it fubar my xorg again ?
[12:25] <pag> Kjellviz, it might... but reconfiguring it shouldn't be a great problem
[12:26] <Hobbsee> hi jpatrick!
[12:26] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: LTNS
[12:26] <Kjellviz> pag: it can be for someone who aint to comfy editing xorg.conf in nano etc
[12:26] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: yep, been doing things
[12:27] <Kjellviz> as mentioned, last time i couldnt start X after running that command and restarting X
[12:27] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:27] <song-birdie> :-P
[12:27] <pag> Kjellviz, that sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg should work... it will mess your kb-layout, but it's easy to repair afterwards
[12:28] <Kjellviz> you mean now, or if sudo nvidia-glx-config enable messes up my xorg.conf ?
[12:28] <kuukkeli> is kubuntu and ubuntu debian linuxes?
[12:28] <vzduch> Kjellviz: no need to edit xorg.conf normally.. that's what 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is for.. but if you care for some custom settings you might want to back up your xorg.conf first
[12:28] <pag> Kjellviz, it might, it might not... I won't promise anything
[12:28] <Kjellviz> kuukkeli: yes they where initially based on debian, and you have access to all debian repos as an option (non supported i think)
[12:29] <vzduch> pag: I prefer a full reconfigure.. the driver didn't identify my monitor modes correctly.. when reconfiguring you can specify your monitor frequencies which will result in an optimal picture :)
[12:29] <Kjellviz> pag: no what i mean is: WHEN do i use that command ?
[12:29] <Kjellviz> after using sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:30] <Kjellviz> before ?
[12:30] <Kjellviz> if things mess up ?
[12:30] <Kjellviz> ><
[12:30] <vzduch> Kjellviz: after, I'd say
[12:30] <pag> vzduch, sure. But automatic on is just far easier, and it works in 60% of the cases
[12:30] <Kjellviz> ok after, but still before i restart X ?
[12:30] <pag> Kjellviz, after... you don't have to use it, if all goes well :)
[12:30] <Kjellviz> aha ok
[12:30] <Kjellviz> thanks
[12:31] <pag> Kjellviz, nope... try restartin X first, because it might as well work as expected
[12:31] <Kjellviz> ok thanks =D
[12:31] <song-birdie> hello!!!  can anybody help me?  im just new here.  i have been having problems on how to install kde into my ubuntu system.  i also have kubuntu live cd.  but how and where should i start?  now that i want to install it into my machine without internet access.  i tried aptoncd, but it doesn't work on all packages.  can somebody share some knowledge regarding this?
[12:33] <kuukkeli> Kjellviz, your linux crashes after you enable the driver and reboot rite?
[12:34] <Kjellviz> not sure yet, im gonna try now
[12:34] <Kjellviz> it didnt crash last time i tried
[12:34] <kuukkeli> if that's the problem, just take the power off from pc and take the  power cable off
[12:34] <Kjellviz> but that was another PC
[12:34] <kuukkeli> and then just check the wire on your graphics card
[12:34] <Kjellviz> its a laptop ><
[12:34] <kuukkeli> xD
[12:34] <Kjellviz> =P
[12:34] <kuukkeli> owie
[12:34] <kuukkeli> ;p
[12:35] <Kjellviz> but thanks anyway hehe
[12:35] <rohhy> hi
[12:35] <rohhy> I can't find the "boost 20 db" option in my KMix in kubuntu
[12:35] <Kjellviz> brb, gotta try restarting X now
[12:35] <rohhy> could you help me please?
[12:36] <pag> rohhy, should be found in Swiches-tab
[12:37] <rohhy> I can't find it, where exactly?
[12:38] <pag> rohhy, kmix -> Switches I have it as 1. option from left
[12:39] <rohhy> pag: :"( I have only Headphone and EIC958
[12:40] <pag> rohhy, well... you could try installing alsaconfig and see from there
[12:41] <rohhy> pag: maybe I have incorrect souncard setings... because the option is present in my fedora-gnome
[12:41] <rohhy> pag" ok
[12:41] <aznpridechinese> everyting turn out ok?
[12:41] <pag> rohhy, seems I've remembered the package wrong, and I can't find the right one :(
[12:44] <rohhy> pag: which package? the kmix or some sound card driver?
[12:44] <pag> rohhy, alsaconf
[12:44] <pag> !alsa
[12:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:45] <pag> alsamixer is the name!
[12:45] <rohhy> pag, good , so i will install it, thx
[12:47] <Kjellviz> allrite
[12:47] <aznpridechinese> did it work?
[12:47] <Kjellviz> your command saved me hehe
[12:48] <Kjellviz> but now my ext bluetooth keyboard aint working
[12:48] <vzduch> Kjellviz: hopefully you have a backup of your old xorg.conf, then you can copy the keyboard section
[12:49] <Kjellviz> i do
[12:49] <dennis_> hi there, i have this problem that amarok and kaffeine crash after a couple of seconds, but rhythmbox works, anyone with a solution?
[12:49] <Kjellviz> but i suspect its as easy as pairing the devices again
[12:49] <Kjellviz> cos it said it could not connect
[12:51] <Kjellviz> brb
[12:53] <dennis_> hi there, i have this problem that amarok and kaffeine crash after a couple of seconds, but rhythmbox works, anyone with a solution?
[12:54] <pag> dennis_, launch either of them via konsole and see, if they output some error messages
[12:59] <Kjellviz> the keyboard settings in xorg.conf are almost identical to the backup
[12:59] <Kjellviz> only difference is the language
[01:00] <Kjellviz> problem is i cant connect to it via bluetooth, the keyb just keeps searching
[01:00] <stevo111> hi
[01:00] <stevo111> i need help
[01:00] <stevo111> im new to linux
[01:00] <pag> !ask | stevo111
[01:00] <ubotu> stevo111: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:01] <vzduch> how about the Device and Files sections?
[01:01] <vzduch> !enter | stevo111
[01:01] <ubotu> stevo111: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:01] <stevo111> and i cant install stuff
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> hi stevo
[01:01] <stevo111> hello
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> are u on live CD???
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> or installed the OS???
[01:01] <stevo111> nope
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> hmmm
[01:01] <stevo111> i installed linux
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> interesting
[01:02] <stevo111> i installd linux fine
[01:02] <Dragon_1212> well sorry cant help u neither ive only used linux for quite umm 3 days lol
[01:02] <stevo111> lol
[01:02] <pag> stevo111, what do you mean by "I can't install stuff"
[01:02] <stevo111> i just installed it last night
[01:02] <Dragon_1212> like apps
[01:02] <stevo111> yea
[01:02] <stevo111> brb
[01:02] <Dragon_1212> thts wht he means
[01:02] <vzduch> Dragon_1212: it's still a meta question
[01:03] <Dragon_1212> true
[01:03] <Dragon_1212> now gimme ur AIM lo jk
[01:03] <Dragon_1212> wht u mean i got AIM on my ubuntu
[01:03] <Kjellviz> vzduch: im checking the entire xorg.conf now for differences
[01:04] <Dragon_1212>  yo
[01:04] <Dragon_1212>   ok
[01:04] <vzduch> stevo111: how about you asking your specific question?
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  ok
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  ok
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  l
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  l
[01:05] <stevo111> back
[01:05] <vzduch> Dragon_1212: stop it.
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  whtat
[01:05] <Dragon_1212> what
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  just trying things out
[01:05] <pag> !coc | Dragon_1212
[01:05] <ubotu> Dragon_1212: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:05] <stevo111> right how do i install rar
[01:05] <vzduch> not here in the channel please
[01:06] <vzduch> stevo111: search for it in Adept or use 'sudo aptitude install rar'
[01:06] <pag> stevo111, enable multiverse and install unrar ;)
[01:06] <Dragon_1212>  nah its got cookies dont trust it
[01:06] <Kjellviz> vzduch: nope, there are nothing in xorg.conf that differs except from the video part (which makes sense since thats whats been changed due to installing driver)
[01:06] <vzduch> pag: you can actually install rar
[01:06] <stevo111> wtf is multiverse?
[01:06] <pag> !multiverse | stevo111
[01:06] <ubotu> stevo111: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:06] <vzduch> !multiverse
[01:07] <stevo111> ok\
[01:07] <stevo111> thx
[01:07] <pag> vzduch, yeah. sorry. I misread the question
[01:07] <Dragon_1212>  HEY EVERYONE go to youtube and look up GOLDEN BOY!!!!
[01:07] <Kjellviz> hmmm brb gotta test something
[01:07] <Dragon_1212>  :)
[01:07] <aznpridechinese> how goes the nvidia driver kjell?
[01:07] <stevo111> he left
[01:07] <vzduch> I'll go take a bath, bbl :)
[01:07] <stevo111> lol
[01:08] <Dragon_1212>  dam finally ive downloaded 800 updates lol
[01:08] <stevo111> lol
[01:08] <stevo111> i just updated mine
[01:08] <pclip> hi
[01:09] <Dragon_1212>  yea well beleive me ur going to love u buntu
[01:09] <Dragon_1212> ubuntu*
[01:09] <pclip> hehe - i'm downloading the updates too :)
[01:09] <Dragon_1212> hi
[01:09] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:09] <stevo111> its cleaner
[01:09] <pclip> how do i start apache and php?
[01:09] <Dragon_1212> yea
[01:10] <stevo111> and not much viruses
[01:10] <Dragon_1212> and no viruses on ubuntu or spyware
[01:10] <pag> pclip, hmm.. sudo /etc/init.d/apache start  ?
[01:10] <pag> !lamp | pclip
[01:10] <ubotu> pclip: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:10] <Dragon_1212> well i got antivirus and spyware software just incase lol
[01:10] <pclip> well, ok. i've just downloaded xampp - for local development, and am trying to make a shortcut for the desktop to start the server
[01:11] <Dragon_1212> yo stevo u got AIM?
[01:11] <pclip> ahh - xampp seems much easier to install :)
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> wht is xampp?
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> might i add
[01:12] <pclip> apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[01:12] <pclip> www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> yea but what is it tell me
[01:12] <pclip> i've used it for a while now
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> is it for games?
[01:12] <pclip> it's a lampp server
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> and???
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> used for?
[01:13] <pclip> php/perl development
[01:13] <Dragon_1212> oh isee
[01:13] <Dragon_1212> well i cant my beryl software to get to work right idk why
[01:14] <Dragon_1212> it keeps screwing up
[01:14] <stevo111> lol i need a dual boot :(
[01:14] <pclip> i've put the command i want to issue for this shortcut in the shortcut command linle - but it doesn't seem to actually work. the command works if i issue it from konsole
[01:14] <Dragon_1212> lol i dont have dual boot lol
[01:14] <Dragon_1212> i hate WINBLOWS
[01:14] <stevo111> its easier to use
[01:14] <stevo111> lol
[01:15] <Dragon_1212> well im a technican so yea lol
[01:15] <stevo111> i mean i cant even install java
[01:15] <Dragon_1212> nothings too hard for me
[01:15] <Dragon_1212> unless i cant fix it lol
[01:15] <pag> stevo111, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:15] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:16] <pag> stevo111, remember to enable all repos before issuing that command
[01:16] <Dragon_1212> so it can screw up ur computer lol
[01:16] <stevo111> i dunno how
[01:16] <pclip> what's in the extras?
[01:16] <stevo111> :(
[01:16] <pag> !repos | stevo111
[01:16] <ubotu> stevo111: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:17] <pag> stevo111, see that link, there are the instructions :)
[01:17] <pag> pclip, codecs, java, flash etc. (iirc)
[01:18] <stevo111> i gtg
[01:18] <stevo111> bye
[01:18] <pag> pclip, "Depends on: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, msttcorefonts, flashplugin-nonfree, sun-java6-plugin"
[01:18] <Kjellviz> hmm this is getting annoying ><
[01:18] <Kjellviz> it says the keyboard is connected, but i cannot use it
[01:18] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:18] <Kjellviz> i just tried in Vista. and the keyboard works fine there
[01:19] <Dragon_1212> i thought u meant i was getting annoying lol
[01:19] <pclip> mhh
[01:19] <Kjellviz> aaaand. the bluetooth icon keeps disappearing and popping up again in systray
[01:19] <pclip> can i issue the password along with a sudo command?
[01:19] <Dragon_1212> well what kind of keyboard is it
[01:19] <Kjellviz> hehe no Dragon_1212
[01:19] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:19] <Kjellviz> microsoft wireless entertainment desktop
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> thts ur problem
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> MICROSOFT
[01:20] <pclip> haha
[01:20] <Kjellviz> bluetooth keyb that was working fine until i installed nvidia drivers
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> well it is screwing with it
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> maybe
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> or consisitency
[01:20] <pclip> i want to run a command that has to be run as root from a shortcut on hte desktop
[01:20] <Kjellviz> dunno
[01:21] <pclip> is this possible without the shortcut asking for a pw?
[01:21] <Kjellviz> im gonna try restoring my backup xorg.conf
[01:21] <Kjellviz> brb
[01:21] <Dragon_1212> i am never going back to WINDOWS again it took my dad almost a day to install vista
[01:21] <Dragon_1212> on his comp
[01:21] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:21] <Kjellviz> ive just got myself a brand new comp
[01:22] <Kjellviz> with vista preinstalled
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> with ubuntu?
[01:22] <Kjellviz> thats why im here
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> well good luck playing video games lol
[01:22] <GrahamA> Hey people.
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> unless u got wine
[01:22] <Kjellviz> np ive been running WoW in wine for 4 months
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> hi
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> well i get bad fps in wine
[01:23] <Kjellviz> ive got np
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> hate it
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> ill just wait till quake wars comes out
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> for linux
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> or valve steam
[01:23] <GrahamA> You can replace some of the wine .dll files with the windows ones I think.
[01:23] <GrahamA> I reckon that'd make it run better.
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> meh....im to lazy takes to much time
[01:23] <Kjellviz> ive got a steady 30-35 dps in wow running in wine
[01:24] <Kjellviz> at 1920-1200 reso
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> no me i get like 10
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> or 9
[01:24] <Kjellviz> and all effects on max
[01:24] <Kjellviz> so im satisfied :)
[01:24] <GrahamA> Actually, while I'm here, how can I find the make/model of my motherboard and cpu?
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> umm
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> is it intel
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> or amd
[01:24] <GrahamA> amd
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> go to amd.com
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> and get the checker
[01:25] <Dragon_1212> for it
[01:25] <Dragon_1212> to see
[01:25] <GrahamA> Will that work on Linux?
[01:25] <Dragon_1212> umm thts going to be a problem
[01:25] <Kjellviz> brb restarting x
[01:25] <Dragon_1212> u can always got to system
[01:25] <GrahamA> I mean, the computer has windows, it's just I imagine it requires some active x thing, and I'm sure we all know what that's like.
[01:26] <GrahamA> Like rape, only a bit different.
[01:27] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:27] <Dragon_1212> i know what u mean
[01:27] <GrahamA> I had a Dell, but the otherday my brother gave me an old box he has that seems to be faster than it, windows things it's an amd athlon xp +1600 1.47ghz, mobo things it's +1800
[01:27] <Dragon_1212> i cant say that linux doesnt have problems too
[01:28] <Dragon_1212> some of the things wont work for it
[01:29] <Kjellviz> i get an errormessage stating "failed to connect to the SDP server" when i restart bluetooth services
[01:29] <Kjellviz> any idea ?
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> ummm
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> dont use it?
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> :)
[01:29] <Kjellviz> dont use my keyboard ?
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> yes
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> or get the drivers
[01:30] <Dragon_1212> either way
[01:30] <Kjellviz> well it works fine under live cd
[01:30] <Kjellviz> it worked fine after install
[01:30] <Kjellviz> then when i installed the nvidia drivers
[01:30] <dennis_> hi there, i have this problem that amarok and kaffeine crash after a couple of seconds, but rhythmbox works, anyone with a solution? This is in general the output of the konsole: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[01:31] <Kjellviz> and ran "sudo dkgp-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" it stopped working
[01:31] <GrahamA> Kjellviz: Check /etc/X11 for any backups to xorg.conf
[01:32] <GrahamA> I belive it will of made one.
[01:32] <GrahamA> In future, never run that command.
[01:32] <Kjellviz> ive already restored the backup
[01:32] <GrahamA> You're fucked.
[01:33] <Kjellviz> ive got my keyboard back to norwegian
[01:33] <Kjellviz> ok ?
[01:33] <GrahamA> Wait, does it work?
[01:33] <Kjellviz> no
[01:34] <GrahamA> ...
[01:34] <kuukkeli> yay
[01:34] <kuukkeli> Steam works :D
[01:34] <GrahamA> sudo dkgp-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:34] <GrahamA> Try that.
[01:34] <GrahamA> Reconfigure everything.
[01:35] <GrahamA> kuukkeli: No it doesn't.
[01:36] <Kjellviz> hmmmk, thats basically what messed it up in the first place ><
[01:36] <GrahamA> No, it'll reconfigure ALL of xorg
[01:37] <GrahamA> Kjellviz: Wait, do you still get the SDP error?
[01:38] <nuxil> hi all..
[01:38] <kuukkeli> GrahamA, how so? =D
[01:38] <Kjellviz> GrahamA: yep
[01:39] <Kjellviz> its the SDPD server that aint running if im not mistaken
[01:39] <Kjellviz> trying to find a solution using google ><
[01:40] <GrahamA> Yeah, fix that before fucking xorg over again.
[01:40] <Kjellviz> my thought exacly
[01:40] <Kjellviz> +t
[01:40] <nuxil> im running out of diskspace. and i was checking what dirs that are huge.. i noticed that /var/lib is 26.3 GB why is that dir so big ? and can i safely delete it?
[01:40] <Kjellviz> but im not figuring out how to start the server ><
[01:40] <GrahamA> nuxil: Have a look in it.
[01:41] <vzduch> nuxil: you probably want to run 'sudo apt-get clean' and/or 'sudo aptitude clean'
[01:42] <nuxil> hehe.. mythtv with recording of 25.6 GB
[01:42] <nuxil> in that dir..
[01:42] <nuxil> vzduch, yea.. i know.
[01:42] <nuxil> vzduch, but my /var/cache is only 119 MB
[01:43] <vzduch> nuxil: then you want to either move or remove the mythtv recordings :)
[01:43] <nuxil> indeed i want to
[01:44] <Kjellviz> anyone got a clue to what SDP server is and how to start it ?
[01:44] <GrahamA> nuxil: How big is your hard drive?
[01:44] <camilla> ciao
[01:45] <GrahamA> Could anybody tell me why I'm getting a bounty of I/O errors when trying to loda a kubuntu livecd?
[01:45] <vzduch> bad burn probably.. I have a similar problem w/ another live CD
[01:46] <GrahamA> Right.
[01:46] <GrahamA> The incredible edible dvd isn't as incredible... but just as edible...
[01:46] <nuxil> GrahamA, my / is only 75 GB
[01:47] <GrahamA> Buy a bigger one, they make 1TB hard drives now :P
[01:47] <GrahamA> brb
[01:54] <tapas> i kinda dislike how kmail crashes when changing expiration settings
[01:54] <tapas> grrr
[01:54] <tapas> in a folder
[01:58] <wepiha> GrahamA: had you checked the md5sum before burning your live-cd ISO?
[02:01] <luke83> hi there, i would like to set up a mirror for kubuntu to use it for installation in a network without internet connection. does anyone know how to do that?
[02:06] <Ace2016> luke83: are you after this kind of thing? http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror_p2
[02:25] <vzduch> !grub
[02:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:26] <kjellviz> hi again
[02:27] <kjellviz> that nvidia driver from the repos kills my bluetooth server for some reason
[02:27] <kjellviz> i reinstalled kubuntu
[02:28] <kjellviz> and the reboot after installing and enabling nvidia driver in xorg.conf (manually this time by adding nvidia istead of nv under device) i loose the functionality of my keyboard
[02:30] <kjellviz> gonna try uninstall the driver and see if i get my keyboard back
[02:30] <kjellviz> or if i need to reinstall again
[02:30] <kjellviz> so brb
[02:34] <BluesKaj> 'Morning All :)
[02:36] <vzduch> afternoon BluesKaj
[02:40] <rami_> i need help
[02:40] <rami_> i removed the k-menu on accident
[02:40] <sad> hello all:)
[02:41] <rami_> i need to get it back
[02:41] <sad> anyone know how to install GKISMET? i cant find on snaptics
[02:45] <sad> anyone knows GKISMET here???
[02:45] <rami_> can i get help?(desperate)
[02:45] <sad> rami whats your prob?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> rami_, sudo apt-get --fix-broken install
[02:46] <rami_> ty
[02:46] <pag> BluesKaj, why not sudo apt-get -f install  ? :)
[02:47] <rami_> didnd work!
[02:47] <rami_> pag yourdidnt work either
[02:47] <pag> rami_, it's the same command ;)
[02:47] <luke83> hey, thanks, that's what i was looking for.
[02:47] <rami_> -.-
[02:48] <wepiha> sad: have you tried the #gtk, #gnome or #perl channels?
[02:48] <pag> rami_, what's your problem?  I missed it
[02:48] <rami_> i removed the K-menu
[02:48] <sad> wepiha: thx i will try
[02:49] <pag> rami_, from the panel? well right click on panel and "add aplett to panel" -> "kmenu"
[02:50] <BluesKaj> rami, did you relogin ?
[02:51] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:52] <Schuenemann> !mad
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <Schuenemann> !libmad
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <rami> didnt work. my whole taskbar is gone now...
[02:53] <Schuenemann> where can I get this MAD plugin for K3b?
[02:53] <rami> luckily i enabled the kasbar
[02:54] <wepiha> !libmad0 | Schuenemann
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmad0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <wepiha> odd
[02:54] <pag> !info libmad0
[02:54] <ubotu> libmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB
[02:54] <Schuenemann> wepiha, I already have that package
[02:54] <Schuenemann> I have libmad0
[02:55] <wepiha> for mp3 -> audio support?
[02:55] <wepiha> !info libk3b2-mp3
[02:55] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[02:55] <Schuenemann> To enable mp3 support, please install the MAD library for mp3 decoding and also the k3b MAD plugin for mp3 decoding.
[02:56] <rami> I FIXED IT!*jumps up and down*
[02:56] <Schuenemann> I get this error when I start k3b
[02:56] <BluesKaj> rami, do what pag suggested  :click on panel and "add aplet to panel" -> "kmenu"
[02:56] <rami> its fixed now
[02:56] <titanix88> hey blueskaj?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> good
[02:56] <BluesKaj> hi titanix88
[02:56] <Schuenemann> wepiha, is that for k3bb?
[02:56] <rami> ty for you help:)
[02:56] <Schuenemann> k3b*
[02:57] <titanix88> i tried compiz fusion. it's great.
[02:57] <wepiha> Schuenemann: yes, as per !info libk3b2-mp3 above
[02:57] <Schuenemann> let me try
[02:59] <Schuenemann> wepiha, thanks
[02:59] <wepiha> np
[02:59] <titanix88> blueskaj how r u going & others? Long time no see as i'm off home for my graduation.
[03:01] <BluesKaj> congrats , titanix ...I'm fine thx
[03:03] <|titanix|> blueskaj: Thx but no big deal it's not abt linux(or at least computers:( it's boring mechanical engineering:((((((((((((
[03:04] <BluesKaj> mechanical engineering isn't boring
[03:05] <|titanix|> Blueskaj: let's go offtopic or they will come and get us(u know i what i mean:)))
[03:05] <rami> it almost got right
[03:05] <kjellviz> hi again, ive found some very important info regarding my issue
[03:05] <rami> i realized now
[03:05] <kjellviz> its not related to the nvidia driver at all
[03:06] <rami> now i have an annoying thing calles kasbar and not the original taskbar
[03:06] <kjellviz> theres something in the updates that messes up my bluetooth keyboard
[03:07] <rami> i need the original taskbar
[03:08] <|titanix|> hey Blueskaj come on...i can show u thousand reasons for why i dislike it ;)
[03:10] <Schuenemann> hey, how do I create a video DVD using k3b? I create a DVD video project, then there are 2 folders: AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS? What do I have to do?
[03:12] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, choose dvd video project, open file navigate to the VideoTS, and click open
[03:12] <Schuenemann> and I put the video file there?
[03:13] <Schuenemann> I have an AVI
[03:13] <Schuenemann> I want my dvd player to open it
[03:13] <BluesKaj> nope avi won't work
[03:13] <Schuenemann> MPEG?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> use the VIDEO_TS
[03:13] <|titanix|> hey am i in #kubuntu when i am using a xp pc(but with gpl irc client kvirc) :?!!??
[03:13] <Schuenemann> what do you mean by 'use'?
[03:14] <BluesKaj> itwill take the audio with it , or it should
[03:14] <Schuenemann> I just have to copy the mpeg there?
[03:14] <BluesKaj> !VIDEO_TS
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video_ts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, do you have a RW dvd ?
[03:15] <Schuenemann> yes
[03:15] <Schuenemann> but I don't have any mpeg... sigh
[03:15] <BluesKaj> try  VIDEO_TS on it , you'll see
[03:15] <Schuenemann> I copied the AVI there, nothing happened
[03:16] <BluesKaj> don't worry about mpeg , VIDEO_TS is the file you want to burn
[03:16] <|titanix|> Blueskaj: VIDEO_TS contains some .ifo and some .vob
[03:16] <Schuenemann> I don't get it
[03:16] <Schuenemann> VIDEO_TS is just a folder, how am I supposed to 'use' it?
[03:17] <BluesKaj> |titanix|, k3b will ignore the files it doesn't need
[03:17] <kjellviz> is it possible to rollback updates i installed some minutes ago ?
[03:17] <BluesKaj> the info inside the folder will be burned as a video
[03:17] <Schuenemann> let me explain: I have a video file and I want it on my dvd player
[03:17] <Schuenemann> my ordinary DVD player
[03:18] <BluesKaj> beleive me Schuenemann , it should wor , ive burned VIDEO_TS files many times
[03:18] <BluesKaj> work
[03:18] <Schuenemann> what should work?
[03:18] <Schuenemann> what is a VIDEO_TS file?
[03:19] <|titanix|> Schuenemann: u got an ordinary video not a .vob right?
[03:19] <Schuenemann> yes, an AVI
[03:19] <BluesKaj> it's a file ready for burning, usually converted from avi
[03:20] <Briareos1> does anyone know if the joystick "hotas cougar" from thrustmaster works in linux - and if: how well? maybe somebody knows a source where i can check that ....
[03:20] <Schuenemann> I just have the avi
[03:21] <BluesKaj> oh I see what he did , he created an empty VIDEO_TS file starting a new project...start over Schuenemann ...you have to use the mpeg
[03:21] <Schuenemann> heh... that was my first message
[03:22] <Schuenemann> ok, let's start over
[03:22] <|titanix|> Blueskaj: remember u said once that u overlook the obvious ...he he he:)
[03:22] <BluesKaj> sorry Schuenemann, i thought you had a converted file which is VIDEO_TS
[03:23] <Schuenemann> k
[03:23] <BluesKaj> k3b won't burn avi files , they have to be converted to mpeg with devede or tovid
[03:24] <Schuenemann> do they have a GUI?
[03:24] <BluesKaj> devede does
[03:24] <Schuenemann> k
[03:24] <Schuenemann> well, I found an mpeg here
[03:24] <Schuenemann> I can try on it
[03:24] <BluesKaj> i beleive tovid has one now as well
[03:25] <|titanix|> Blueskaj:don't mind...just jokes(i like your helpful attitude anyway). Good bye...(looks like my roomate is coming & i'm using his pc:)
[03:25] <BluesKaj> it's always best to experiment with dvdrw first Schuenemann then one learns how to deal with various files
[03:25] <Schuenemann> sure
[03:26] <rami> my taskbas still isnt original
[03:26] <rami> now i have to browse things via alt+tab
[03:27] <Schuenemann> rami, open kcontrol and then desktop > taskbar
[03:28] <ubunturos> I'm a stuck up and not able to understand the manual. How do I create an executable if I have compiled a C file that generates a .o (object code)?
[03:29] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, huh... so, I got the mpeg. How to convert it to that video_TS?
[03:29] <rami> then?
[03:30] <Schuenemann> rami, hmmm... I actually don't know your problem. I only know you want to do something with your taskbar
[03:30] <rami> i need to have the windows in the taskbar
[03:30] <flake> why is my trash icon not showing anything moved to my .Trash folder?
[03:31] <aaronjs> is the local wireless expert online at the moment.  :S  I'm trying to get an install to go down on a laptop.  Having issues.
[03:31] <flake> it only shows any desktop items deleted
[03:31] <Schuenemann> rami, and what do you have now?
[03:32] <rami> the kmenu the system menu show desktop and the quickstart thing
[03:32] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, don't worry about VIDEO_TS for the moment , it's not the only filetype that k3b can handle , just get devede or tovid to convert the avi file for you
[03:33] <BluesKaj> devede or tovid will convert the file and burn it as well if you wish ...no need to worry about k3b
[03:33] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I already have devede... how to convert it?
[03:33] <Schuenemann> rami, right-click it, then add new panel
[03:34] <rami> then?
[03:34] <Schuenemann> then taskbar?
[03:34] <rami> its only external
[03:35] <BluesKaj> open devede and click on file , navigate to the avi file , the rest should be easy , altho i haven't used devede in a while
[03:36] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, there is no 'file', only 4 options: video dvd, VCD, SVCD and CVD
[03:36] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, there is a manual
[03:37] <Schuenemann> where?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> man devede , in the konsole
[03:38] <xexu1974> hola
[03:38] <rami> i'm starting to get angreehhh!
[03:38] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, heh... the manual has only 1 page
[03:41] <kuukkeli> BEWARE OF THE VIAGRABEARS WHAT WILL RAPE YOU!
[03:41] <Gote> german
[03:41] <pag> !de | Gote
[03:41] <ubotu> Gote: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:41] <Timsen> hi, I am looking for the gethostip command for ubuntu, can somebody tell me the package name?
[03:41] <rami> i still dont have the original taskbar
[03:41] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, can we just convert my mpeg to VIDEO_TS? I'll figure out avi>mpeg later
[03:42] <pag> !CoC | kuukkeli
[03:42] <ubotu> kuukkeli: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:42] <pag> Timsen, sudo apt-get install syslinux
[03:43] <BluesKaj> k3b will burn mpeg , VIDEO_TS is just a carrier for burnable files that reside inside it
[03:43] <rami> help!!!!!!!!
[03:43] <kourosh> Hello room, does anybody know how to install Moneydance on Kubuntu?
[03:43] <Schuenemann> and how to create the dvd? What project is it?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> you have to open k3b  and navigate to the mpeg file from there
[03:45] <Schuenemann> then just burn?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> is it in the k3b list?
[03:46] <Schuenemann> yes
[03:46] <BluesKaj> then jus burn it
[03:46] <Schuenemann> I opened it and a project was created
[03:46] <Timsen> thanks pag!
[03:46] <Schuenemann> this is not SVCD, is it?
[03:46] <rami> I NEED THE ORIGINAL TASKBAR!!(DESPERATE)
[03:48] <pclip> can i have a blank root password as i have ubuntu on a virtual machine?
[03:49] <starn> !mouse
[03:49] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:49] <chaotic> do u guys kno how to extract multirars  files ark woont  work  and unrar-free is installed
[03:49] <starn> !invisable mouse
[03:49] <starn> dang
[03:50] <starn> i changed my res and now my mouse well nto show
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about invisable mouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <starn> its there but it well not show :(
[03:51] <rami> !taskbar
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about taskbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <Kjellviz> aight
[03:51] <starn> hmm maybe that fixed
[03:51] <Kjellviz> there was something in the updates that broke the connection to my bluetooth keyboard
[03:51] <Kjellviz> does anyone have a idea for a solution, or maybe can tell me how to rollback the update
[03:52] <Kjellviz> there where some 80 updates applied (fresh install of kubuntu)
[03:52] <Schuenemann> rami, right-click > add mini-application
[03:56] <starn> !xorg
[03:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:56] <rami> TYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY!
[03:58] <waylandbill> Kjellviz: /var/log/dpkg.log may be of help. It'll at least tell what you need to rollback.
[03:58] <Kjellviz> ok, how do i identify what needs to be rolled back ?
[03:59] <waylandbill> Kjellviz: if you used aptitude it would've given more info in the log like what version was replaced and stuff, but I'm figuring you used adept or apt-get.
[04:00] <waylandbill> As for what to roll back, look at the time stamps. You know when you upgraded I'm assuming
[04:01] <chaotic> how do i change the kubuntu     them  its all blue and white
[04:01] <k31th> has anyone had any luck with KVpnc ?
[04:01] <chaotic> i wanna make it black
[04:02] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: well dunno what i used, there was an icon in systray telling me there where updates avail, thats what i used
[04:02] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: also, all updates where done at the same time today, its a fresh installation of kubuntu
[04:02] <Kjellviz> and, there where 80 updates
[04:03] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz, you used the adept updater
[04:03] <Kjellviz> ok
[04:04] <Kjellviz> so not aptitude anyways
[04:04] <BluesKaj> no
[04:05] <Kjellviz> ok im reinstalling all bluetooth packages
[04:05] <BluesKaj> aptitude doesn't reside in the panel by default
[04:05] <Kjellviz> so i need to restart to be sure they are unloaded etc, will be back in a min or so
[04:06] <starn> when it says to put this Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false" by screen what dose it mean?
[04:07] <arun> hello people
[04:07] <Raul> hi... since a week and two days I'm having problems with fresh install of Kubuntu feisty in a Asus M2N-MX. currently I have an unstable ethernet connection, no sound, no dev created for the keyUSB pendrive. The M2N-MX use Nvidia MCP61 chipset. The modprobe shows that for the eth0 the module forcedeth is loaded (as in Nvidia web page indicates) and for sound the hda_intel. But still no sound (just the PCspeaker)
[04:08] <arun> Is anyone here Alex el Julio?
[04:09] <kuukkeli> fly to spain and ask there
[04:10] <arun> haha
[04:10] <kuukkeli> BEWARE OF THE VIAGRABEARS WHAT WILL RAPE YOU!
[04:10] <runlevelten> !prat | kuukkeli
[04:10] <chaotic> do u3 flash drives work with linux
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <arun> Firefox is very sluggish today for me, for some reason..
[04:10] <arun> I have to refresh pages twice to get them to open
[04:10] <kuukkeli> Try Konqueror
[04:11] <arun> yeah i did.. funny thing is firefox was working fine till yesterday
[04:11] <arun> what could have happened suddenly?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> arun, did yo do an update or add a plugin ?
[04:12] <runlevelten> arun: delete your cache...
[04:12] <BluesKaj> I used FF for many yrs ...now I'm trying Konq , slowly getting used to it's quirks but , i kinda like it
[04:13] <starn> !video res
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video res - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <starn> !res
[04:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:14] <runlevelten> Type is rendered better by konqueror
[04:14] <arun> I deleted my cache, and I don't think I updated anything.
[04:16] <starn> dose this look right???
[04:16] <starn> Section "Screen"
[04:16] <starn>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[04:16] <starn>         Device          "nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] "
[04:16] <starn>         Monitor         "DELL E197FP"
[04:16] <starn>         Defaultdepth    24
[04:16] <starn>         Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false"
[04:16] <starn>         SubSection "Display"
[04:16] <waylandbill> !paste
[04:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:17] <starn> waylandbill, should i repast? or not?
[04:17] <starn> anways dose it look right?
[04:18] <chaotic> how do u get  avast antivirus to run in tray
[04:18] <arun> Opera is working slow as well, don't know what's going on
[04:18] <chaotic> in terminal when i type avast it just starts scanning
[04:18] <arun> Konqueror opens pages fune
[04:18] <arun> fine*
[04:19] <BluesKaj> why worry about antivirus , chaotic
[04:19] <BluesKaj> !antivirus
[04:19] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:19] <chaotic> avast  is pretty good
[04:19] <starn> !useedidfreqs
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about useedidfreqs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <chaotic> iits free too
[04:20] <chaotic> u mean theres not many viruses on linux
[04:20] <runlevelten> klamav if you want a "graphical AV app"
[04:20] <carlos> hello
[04:20] <carlos> lenguage spanish
[04:20] <chaotic> guess  ill just stick with avast
[04:21] <runlevelten> you have much more chance of a repo compromise than a "virus"
[04:21] <carlos> hola a todos soy nuevo en esto
[04:21] <chaotic> its just something i was used to in windows always having antivirus
[04:21] <t_maus> you can also look for rootkits ^^
[04:21] <BluesKaj> chaotic , unless your running a windows partition and you are writing to it you don't need an antivirus
[04:21] <carlos> de que hablan
[04:21] <chaotic> does linux get spyware
[04:21] <t_maus> no
[04:22] <chaotic> ah ok
[04:22] <carlos> mmmmmmmmmmm NOD32 is use
[04:22] <runlevelten> chaotic, I can write you a program that just sits in your system tray and wastes CPU and memory and thrashes the disk for you, if you want...
[04:22] <runlevelten> you can even pay me 20 bucks for it if you want xD
[04:22] <chaotic> lol
[04:22] <carlos> chaotic hablas espaol por lo que veo
[04:22] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: ok, ive tried reinstalling the bluetooth packages, and no resolution so far
[04:22] <chaotic> si
[04:23] <BluesKaj> I'l try one more time ...maybe this time he'll get the message
[04:23] <carlos> que bueno mis conocimientos de ingles son escasos me se los codigos por que debo saberlos
[04:23] <BluesKaj> !antivirus | chaotic
[04:23] <ubotu> chaotic: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:23] <runlevelten> don't need antivirus, don't need anti spyware, don't need defrag
[04:23] <jhutchins> !es | carlos
[04:23] <ubotu> carlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:23] <runlevelten> DO NEED to avoid installing untrusted apps or adding untrusted repositories.
[04:23] <waylandbill> chaotic: keep in mind that if you use packages or programs from untrusted sources as root, you could still run into trouble, but you shouldn't need to worry about viruses as long as you keep security in mind.
[04:23] <runlevelten> Those are worse than anything.
[04:23] <carlos> muchas gracias ubotu te agradezco la info
[04:24] <waylandbill> Kjellviz: you probably want to go back a version, not reinstall the current version.
[04:24] <chaotic> i got avast  from .deb
[04:24] <chaotic> from avast.com
[04:24] <carlos> bye
[04:24] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: hmm ok.
[04:25] <Kjellviz> well i could just reinstall kubuntu again, and NOT run updates ^^
[04:25] <Kjellviz> but seeing there is 80 updates
[04:25] <Kjellviz> and 1 making trouble (probably)
[04:25] <Kjellviz> theres 79 updates id like to have =\
[04:25] <runlevelten> did you find a bug?
[04:25] <jhutchins> !pin | Kjellviz
[04:25] <ubotu> Kjellviz: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[04:26] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz, updates aren't necessarily better .. :P
[04:26] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: You can roll back that one package.
[04:26] <Kjellviz> i have no idea what package caused the issue
[04:26] <waylandbill> aptitude and synaptic support going back in versions rather easily.
[04:26] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Which is what, you updated and bluetooth stopped working?
[04:26] <Kjellviz> and i was using adept ><
[04:27] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: exactly
[04:27] <arun> ok now my internet speed is slow for all browsers, gah
[04:27] <Kjellviz> a fresh install of kubuntu
[04:27] <Kjellviz> ran the updates
[04:27] <jhutchins> k, probably the bluetooth modules then.
[04:27] <Kjellviz> and my bluetooth keyboard stopped working
[04:27] <jhutchins> arun: ipv6 enabled?
[04:27] <waylandbill> Kjellviz: it's possible that then next update may fix it. You might want to submit a bug report.
[04:27] <Kjellviz> when i restart bluetooth i get this error:
[04:27] <Kjellviz> failed to connecto to the SDP server
[04:28] <chaotic> is  there anyway to hide programs  u have open on desktop1 when u r on desktop 2
[04:28] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, hey, I tried what you suggested... open the mpeg inside k3b, but that generates a CD project
[04:28] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: submit a bug report, where how but not why
[04:29] <waylandbill> !bug
[04:29] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:29] <starn> !nvidia
[04:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:30] <starn> !.run
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <starn> :\
[04:30] <chaotic> i heard linux has a built in firewall
[04:30] <Kjellviz> chaotic: yes, rightclick the taskbar and choose Configure Panel
[04:30] <chaotic> i dont have router
[04:30] <arun> jhutchins: i don't know
[04:30] <Kjellviz> choose taskbar on the left, and unclick the "show windows from all desktops"
[04:30] <tapas> chaotic: well, do you have any services running which ar visible from the otside?
[04:30] <waylandbill> chaotic: just a cable/dsl modem without a built in firewall?
[04:30] <carlos> hello please help spanish what not ubuntu.es, kubuntu.es
[04:30] <tapas> chaotic: if not, you don't need a firewall
[04:31] <tapas> !spanish
[04:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:31] <runlevelten> !klingon
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klingon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <carlos> no hay nadien
[04:31] <Schuenemann>  /join #kubuntu-es
[04:31] <waylandbill> there are sites to check if you have open server ports if you are not sure.
[04:32] <tapas> carlos: or just run nmap localhost :)
[04:32] <carlos> ok
[04:32] <simon_> hello, i just buyed a sound system "ex-d5e jvc" this micro system can directly connect to the pc wireless via usb stick. in win xp you do not have to isntall any driver. does anybody know how to use this usb stick via linux.
[04:32] <Kjellviz> ok so i can submit a bug report
[04:32] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, you can always open k3b and choose dvd project
[04:32] <Kjellviz> but how do i solve my problem ?
[04:32] <tapas> carlos: but to answer your original question: yes linux comes with "built in" firewall
[04:33] <BluesKaj> if you want
[04:33] <arun> jhutchins: how do i check if i have ipv6 enabled?
[04:33] <simon_> i looked for any clues in the kernel configuration file, and "lsusb" lists the usb stick
[04:33] <tapas> carlos: have a look at the iptables docmentation.. most distros also come with a script to setup a simple firewall
[04:33] <jhutchins> !ipv6 | arun
[04:33] <ubotu> arun: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:33] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, but data or video one? As video, I'll have those VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders again
[04:33] <carlos> bye gracias tapas
[04:33] <runlevelten> plug it in and see....
[04:34] <jhutchins> arun: If you do sudo ifconfig in a console and it lists an IPv6 address, it's enabled.  That will cause slow DNS lookups when browsing
[04:34] <tapas> carlos: erm oops, some of those were meant for chaotic
[04:34] <tapas> chaotic: did yu read my last messages to carlos?
[04:34] <davf> When I plug in my bluetooth dongle I get a KDE Bluetooth Framework error "Failed to connect to the SDP server" can anyone help me please?
[04:34] <Kjellviz> davf: ive got the same issue
[04:35] <runlevelten> did you upgrade bluetooth?
[04:35] <Kjellviz> it started after i downloaded updates
[04:35] <BluesKaj> don't worry , just choose the mpeg file you want burn Schuenemann
[04:35] <davf> I'm using Feisty.
[04:35] <arun> jhutchins: i see an inet6 address. i just typed ip a | grep inet6, it outputs some stuff
[04:35] <davf> runlevelten Any ideas?
[04:36] <chaotic> how do i know if im using fiesty or what
[04:36] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, sorry for sounding dumb, but this isn't very clear for me. Is it data or video project?
[04:36] <jhutchins> arun: Follow the directions at that URL then.
[04:36] <runlevelten> yeah. Kbluetoothd has issues sometimes after new releases - you need to report it as a bug
[04:36] <BluesKaj> video
[04:36] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: but reporting it as a bug does not fix it today
[04:36] <davf> runlevelten hmmm.... Any OTHER ideas ;)
[04:36] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: how do i rollback the update ?
[04:37] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, and I copy the mpeg to the root of the project? or to VIDEO_TS?
[04:37] <runlevelten> No, you can fix it today after you've reported the bug, potentially saving lots of other people suffering it -  OBVIOUSLY.
[04:37] <BluesKaj> mpeg=video
[04:37] <arun> jhutchins: it was working fine some time ago, my ISP says they havent changed anything
[04:37] <Kjellviz> yes, of course
[04:37] <arun> jhutchins: can disabling ipv6 cause any problems?
[04:37] <Kjellviz> but as long as i still have a problem
[04:37] <Kjellviz> i focus my time on fixing the problem
[04:37] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: to roll back the update - do you know which package it was?
[04:37] <davf> If I open a terminal and run sudo hcid -s that brings up the device but then I have a problem with pairing.
[04:38] <jhutchins> arun: Not unless you know you are on an ipv6 network - and you would know.
[04:38] <Kjellviz> instead of reporting a bug
[04:38] <runlevelten> did you have a bluez update or a kbluetooth update?
[04:38] <davf> just for grins Kjellviz. Try that. from cmd line type sudo hcid -s
[04:38] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: no not exactly what package, the updater downloaded 80 packages in total
[04:38] <davf> Then try pairing
[04:38] <arun> jhutchins: can i enable it later if need be? why would it suddenly cause problems?
[04:38] <k31th> yo.
[04:39] <davf> Kjellviz ,I want to know if you get the same problem I do. An error from kbluetooth saying pairing not allowed.
[04:39] <Kjellviz> what do you use to pair ?
[04:39] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: let me have a look and see then :)
[04:39] <jhutchins> arun: Yes, of course, just reverse what you did to disable it.
[04:40] <jhutchins> arun: It causes problems because the DNS lookups see that it is available and try it first, they don't try ipv4 until it times out.
[04:40] <davf> Kjellviz, your mobile phone?
[04:40] <Kjellviz> no im using a bluetooth keyboard
[04:40] <arun> jhutchins: but is this kind of behaviour usual? it was working fine some time ago
[04:40] <arun> (sorry if i'm asking too many questions)
[04:40] <jhutchins> arun: If your system was running
[04:40] <davf> Ok... well see if that command allows you to use your kbd.
[04:41] <jhutchins> arun: Sorry.  It may be that something else went wrong, but having it enabled will slow down web browsing.
[04:41] <Kjellviz> the command runs without errors
[04:41] <Kjellviz> but still cant use keyboard
[04:41] <arun> jhutchins: thanks, i'll disable it. do i need to restart the computer, or will restarting x do?
[04:41] <davf> Is the dongle flashing like it came alive?
[04:41] <Kjellviz> have no dongle
[04:41] <Kjellviz> its builtin
[04:41] <k31th> anyone VPN from KDE to work using PPTP ?
[04:41] <Kjellviz> im on a laptop
[04:41] <davf> mmmm.
[04:42] <jhutchins> arun: The page will tell you to disable a couple of modules. I don't recall if removing them works, you can try sudo rmmod ipv6
[04:42] <jhutchins> arun: If not, you will have to restart.
[04:42] <davf> don't you get a flashing blue light on your laptop when the bt is enabled?
[04:42] <chaotic> u guys have no idea how many times installed a distro of linux for a day then went back to windows  it was always somnething
[04:43] <Kjellviz> i get a solid blue light when its enabled
[04:43] <chaotic> i couldnt use a belkin wifi  card
[04:43] <Kjellviz> and its been shining all along
[04:43] <Kjellviz> chaotic: been there, done that
[04:43] <runlevelten> chaotic: same, other way around - Last time was when I got oblivion.
[04:44] <Kjellviz> chaotic: now try go use Vista, and youll be back here in less than 2 weeks
[04:44] <davf> chaotic, that's because you need the firmware.
[04:44] <dr_willis> Vista is....well..i have yet to find anything good about vista.. :)
[04:44] <dr_willis> heh
[04:44] <ardchoille> lol
[04:44] <MaTiAz> dr_willis: Aero?
[04:44] <Kjellviz> it looks nice
[04:44] <MaTiAz> But of course Beryl beats it :)
[04:44] <Kjellviz> thats bout it ><
[04:44] <Kjellviz> indeed
[04:44] <dr_willis> Kjellviz,  i dont even find it looking that nice.
[04:44] <runlevelten> I couldn't stand how much trouble it was to install stuff, and having to get all the drivers from CDs or the internet, and not  having an office suite and stuff, then spending 20-80% of my system resources
[04:44] <davf> chaotic, problem is usually related to the megga money hungry, greedy patent pigs!!
[04:44] <chaotic> how much ram do u need to run beryl
[04:45] <runlevelten> on spyware, viruses, the heavily latent slow firewall, etc.
[04:45] <Kjellviz> ive seen it run on 512 without hickups
[04:45] <starn> in kunbuntu how do i chang display settings when monitor and display manager stop working or how do i make it work agen?
[04:45] <chaotic> belkin doesnt release linux drivers
[04:45] <runlevelten> So I came back to GNU/Linux, which isn't broken and crap \o/
[04:45] <davf> What do you install when you can't get something to work in Windows! Oh yea, go and buy other hardware. True isn't it.!
[04:45] <MaTiAz> I love the repository concept of GNU/Linux :)
[04:45] <runlevelten> yep.
[04:45] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: i think ill just reinstall kubuntu and NOT install the updates
[04:45] <davf> chaotic, you need to use firmware cutter.
[04:45] <MaTiAz> So much easier than tracking down stuff in the internet :P
[04:46] <Kjellviz> seems to be the fastest and easiest way around this problem atm
[04:46] <chaotic> ndiswrapper  dowks sometimes but mostly not
[04:46] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: it's the slowest and hardest way around the problem
[04:46] <chaotic> mt works
[04:46] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, it says 'the project does not have the necessary files to create a DVD video'
[04:46] <runlevelten> and will give you 100x more problems
[04:46] <davf> true
[04:46] <ardchoille> I like the fact that I have a PII, 128mb ram and I run a live cd on it to surf the web and do email :)
[04:46] <Kjellviz> why is that ?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz, once reinstalled just delete the adept updater ,it's a PITA for most ppl anyway
[04:47] <Kjellviz> hehe sounds like a good idea ><
[04:47] <davf> you just need the firmway from the windows driver because it's licensed.
[04:47] <runlevelten> erm, because you will get rooted very quickly if you don't install updates to stuff like graphics libs
[04:47] <chaotic> i rather use apt-cache search than the add/remove programs
[04:47] <runlevelten> that's one of the most popular ways to crack nix desktops at the moment.
[04:47] <waylandbill> when I first converted to linux, I kept jumping back to windows because I thought I couldn't do something in linux. It was just that I needed to do the task a different way, and once I learned that new way, it ended up being a better way to do it. Eventually, I didn't need to use windows at all.
[04:47] <runlevelten> anyway, what you need to do is this:
[04:47] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, then you have to transcode that mpeg file too
[04:47] <Schuenemann> transcode to VIDEO_TS?
[04:48] <Dragon_1212> yo
[04:48] <Dragon_1212> hi all
[04:48] <runlevelten> find out what package you updates that stuffed up pairing (bluepin? bluetooth? kdebluetooth?), then choose to install the last version
[04:48] <runlevelten> then pin it
[04:48] <davf> pin it?
[04:48] <dr_willis> 'learning to ask the proper question, is step 1 in the zen of linux' :)
[04:48] <runlevelten> !pin
[04:48] <MaTiAz> :)
[04:48] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[04:48] <chaotic> whats better ace  or 7zip
[04:48] <waylandbill> or tell aptitude to put a hold on it.
[04:49] <chaotic> can 7zip do multirars
[04:49] <BluesKaj> no, Schuenemann , that'll be automatic when you transcode to dvd video aak mpeg or xml depending which utility you use
[04:49] <davf> thx
[04:49] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: sounds real easy
[04:49] <BluesKaj> aka mpeg
[04:49] <starn> in kunbuntu how do i chang display settings when monitor and display manager stop working or how do i make it work agen?
[04:49] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I converted using devede, it outputted a mpeg and xml
[04:49] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: except i havent got a slightest idea on where to find out what package caused the issue
[04:50] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: not even where to find out what packages where installed
[04:50] <davf> Kjellviz what v of Kubuntu?
[04:50] <mendred> starn: can u clairfy.. are u saying that X crashes?
[04:51] <waylandbill> starn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  (I think I have that right  ;)
[04:51] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, use devede to burn it as well then , it may default to k3b as it's burning utility ...not quite sure
[04:51] <chaotic> # scanned files:        30873
[04:51] <chaotic> # scanned directories:  1547
[04:51] <chaotic> # infected files:       0
[04:51] <chaotic> # total file size:      10.9 GB
[04:51] <chaotic> # virus database:       000714-0 15.02.2007
[04:51] <chaotic> # test elapsed:         22m:40s 360ms
[04:51] <chaotic> avast gave me that
[04:51] <runlevelten> !pastebin | chaotic
[04:51] <ubotu> chaotic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:51] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | chaotic
[04:51] <BluesKaj> oops
[04:51] <waylandbill> chaotic: it's saying it wasted 22m of your time?  :-D
[04:51] <arun> jhutchins: internet speed is much better now, thanks
[04:51] <starn> no x dont crash just that monitor and display manager well not work
[04:52] <BluesKaj> LOL waylandbill :)
[04:52] <mendred> starn
[04:52] <chaotic> well not really i didnt even notice it scanning didnt even notice resources it took up
[04:52] <starn> ?
[04:52] <Schuenemann> !windows | chaotic
[04:52] <ubotu> chaotic: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:52] <runlevelten> An even better virus scanner for your linux desktop is cappucino
[04:52] <mendred> starn: waylandbill's suggestion then..run it witha sudo
[04:52] <arun> haha nearest mental health institute
[04:53] <starn> ok
[04:53] <waylandbill> chaotic: I'm sure your hard drive noticed.
[04:53] <panigrc> hello can anyone help me with mesa installation ?
[04:53] <chaotic> all it did was scan it thru terminal
[04:53] <Kjellviz> davf: fiesty
[04:53] <panigrc> i am getting this error mach64_ioctl.c:190: error: drm_mach64_blit_t has no member named idx
[04:53] <panigrc> and don't know what to do
[04:54] <chaotic> i had to put konsole on my desktop i hated having to go thru thhhe start menu
[04:54] <chaotic> um what do linux people call the startmenu
[04:55] <jpatrick> chaotic: k-menu?
[04:55] <starn> ok i did the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now what do i do in here?
[04:55] <chaotic> k menu   ah
[04:55] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, oh great... devede crashed and my mpeg is gone
[04:55] <davf> chaotic that's the beauty of linux. It can be whatever app you want! kmenu gnome other wm etc!!!
[04:55] <dr_willis> The LunchMenu
[04:55] <dr_willis> and the Desktop is the COunterTop.
[04:55] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, bummer ...but that's why i use tovid
[04:55] <dr_willis> THe Cd burner is the 'stove' :)
[04:55] <davf> dr_willis or BreakfastMenu?
[04:56] <davf> ;)
[04:56] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, which repository has tovid?
[04:56] <dr_willis> THe CounterTop is where you store stuff.. the "little box's are where you keep your recipes"
[04:56] <dr_willis> :)
[04:56] <dr_willis> Tools are kept in the /Silverware/ drawer
[04:57] <Schuenemann> !tovid
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <dr_willis> To delete things you drag them to the Dishwasher. ;)
[04:57] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, for help jion #tovid..the guys there are very helpful there
[04:57] <BluesKaj> err repeat ...old age is setting in
[04:57] <chaotic> man i hate this i have to install xp
[04:58] <chaotic> for my sis
[04:58] <starn> should i use kernal fram buffer?
[04:58] <Schuenemann> chaotic, why?
[04:58] <chaotic> y cant people just learn linux
[04:58] <dr_willis> starn,  I always disable the Framebuffer.
[04:58] <chaotic> cuzz  thats all she knows
[04:58] <dr_willis> Install Kubuntu, tell her its the new "Visata2.0"
[04:58] <Schuenemann> who is she?
[04:59] <panigrc> has anyone installed mesa before ?
[04:59] <chaotic> a low end   windows user imagine linux lol
[04:59] <dr_willis> panigrc,  ive not ahd to mess with mesa in years. :)
[04:59] <starn> should i enable DBE and RECORD and  V4L?
[04:59] <starn> or leave dissabled?
[05:00] <arun> that Linux is not Windows article is quite nice, actually
[05:00] <dr_willis> starn,  are you going down the whole kernel options list? when in doubt.. keep the defaults.
[05:00] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: did you find out what packages yet?
[05:00] <starn> ok
[05:00] <dr_willis> starn,  that will save a LOT of time in here.. :) with us getting asked about every *#$&@&@ oddball kernel optuion. :)
[05:00] <dr_willis> ive not had to mess with the kernel since ive started using Kubuntu
[05:00] <dr_willis> !kernel
[05:00] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:00] <erov> and remove the obvious stuff like HAM Radio support (unless you use that!!)
[05:01] <davf> !fix my bluetooth problems.
[05:01] <chaotic> well i got windows xp  performance edition to use less resources
[05:01] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: as i said, i dont know where too look
[05:01] <starn> now i just restart xserver?
[05:01] <Schuenemann> xp performance edition == brand new installation?
[05:01] <starn> if so how?
[05:01] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: paste this in a console and pastebin the output
[05:02] <runlevelten> for i in `dpkg --get-selections | grep blue`; do echo $i `sudo apt-cache show $i 2>/dev/null | grep Version`;done
[05:02] <celeste> whoa
[05:02] <erov> starn.. a kernel must be compiled, installed and configured as well
[05:02] <starn> ...
[05:02] <erov> did you read anything on doing this? the xserver doesnt have much to do with the kernel..
[05:02] <starn> ok now i am lost..
[05:03] <chaotic> hey how do iset an image on the internet as wallpaper
[05:03] <erov> "You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild"
[05:03] <starn> an bew to linux..
[05:03] <starn> am new*
[05:03] <erov> are you trying to custom compile a kernel?
[05:03] <Schuenemann> chaotic, right-click the desktop and configure desktop
[05:03] <starn> no
[05:03] <erov> oh i misunderstood
[05:03] <starn> trying to config screen res.
[05:03] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: it only shows that i tried reinstalling bluetooth after i got the problem
[05:03] <erov> im so sorry
[05:03] <starn> lol np
[05:03] <erov> thats my fault i misread the whole thing
[05:04] <runlevelten> No, it doesn't show that. Can you pastebin it please?
[05:04] <davf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30011/
[05:05] <Kjellviz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30012/
[05:06] <runlevelten> I had no updates today. the only thing you both have that I don't is bluez-gnome..
[05:07] <davf> Only from something else I read of someone else. Didn't make the diff.
[05:07] <davf> I had the problem b4 that.
[05:07] <davf> runlevelten, versions are all the same?
[05:08] <runlevelten> okey dokey. Did you both have reasonably fresh installs, or only install bluetooth support recently?
[05:08] <runlevelten> yep, versions the same
[05:08] <chaotic> man these  admin   restrictions get annoying
[05:08] <davf> runlevelten, I originally had bt removed as I never used it. Just reinstalled about 1/2hr ago.
[05:09] <davf> chaotic, you sure do know the right button to push don't you lol.
[05:09] <chaotic> i cant put an img into wallpapers
[05:09] <runlevelten> lemme find a bluetooth device
[05:09] <runlevelten> :)
[05:09] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: my installaiton is all fresh
[05:09] <panigrc> can someone help me to find out to understand what this error means mach64_ioctl.c:190: error: drm_mach64_blit_t has no member named idx
[05:10] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: only thing ever done on it is running the updates
[05:10] <runlevelten> so that explains why you would both have 'updated' to current versions
[05:12] <celeste> chaotic, view the image using image viewer, then click on VIEW or one of the file menus and see, set as desktop
[05:12] <runlevelten> been a while since I used bluetooth on this machine, lemme try to get a worksforme
[05:12] <llp78> Is it possible to mount 2 locations to the same mount point?
[05:12] <davf> k
[05:12] <davf> brb
[05:13] <runlevelten> ok
[05:13] <dr_willis> Same Mount point NO...
[05:13] <dr_willis> there is that Overlay feature I recall.. but  cant rember how it works.
[05:13] <dr_willis> so that may be a 'posibially'  :)
[05:13] <celeste> for some reason my pics from images previously stored on windows dont show up when i right click on the desktop either
[05:13] <Kjellviz> runlevelten so how long you reckon one can run without updating ? :P
[05:13] <llp78> i have 2 folders on 2 harddrives i want merged into 1
[05:13] <celeste> use the partitioner
[05:13] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: I wouldn't do it at all.
[05:14] <dr_willis> llp78,  could just link one to be a subdir or an nother.
[05:14] <dr_willis> of another.
[05:14] <dr_willis> unless you want them truely merged.
[05:14] <llp78> nah i want the contents of both folder to show up in one directory
[05:14] <erov> chaotic: right click the desktop, go to Desktop Icon, select picture radio button.. then notice the blue folder to the right of the listbox? click it. then select the IMG you want as background
[05:15] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: can you right click kbluetoothd and tell me what rules you have there?
[05:15] <arun> I'm thinking of getting a Dell laptop soon. I was wondering if wifi works 'out of the box', or if I have to configure anything for it to work...
[05:15] <erov> if you want to put one into the "root" owned wallpaper directory.. just sudo cp whatever.jpg /whatever/dir/permissions/doenst/allow
[05:15] <runlevelten> Configure - > Services > Confirmation
[05:15] <dr_willis> !find union
[05:15] <ubotu> Found: unionfs-source, unionfs-tools, unionfs-utils
[05:15] <davf> bak
[05:16] <runlevelten> hi davf
[05:16] <dr_willis> aha. "Union" not overlay. is the name of the feature ive seen live cd's use
[05:16] <erov> im sorry, chaotic, right click then configure desktop, then desktop icon, then picture radio button... then blue folder to the right :)
[05:16] <dr_willis> !info unionfs-utils
[05:16] <ubotu> unionfs-utils: Transition package for unionfs-tools rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4+debian-3 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:16] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: where am i supposed to find that ? in systray, menu etc ?
[05:16] <dr_willis> !info unionfs-tools
[05:16] <ubotu> unionfs-tools: Tools to manage unionfs filesystems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4+debian-3 (feisty), package size 66 kB, installed size 152 kB
[05:16] <dr_willis> !unionfs
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <runlevelten> can you guys right cick the kbluetoothd icon, select configure -> configure services -> confirmation and tell me what rules are there?
[05:16] <davf> runlevelten, I think I missed something.
[05:16] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: system tray
[05:17] <Kjellviz> its not there
[05:17] <dr_willis> llp78,  check out the Unionfs stuff..  theres a 'fuse' module or 2 to use it also. i just noticed :)
[05:17] <runlevelten> if you don't have it, press ALT+F2 and type kbluetoothd
[05:17] <dr_willis> FunionFS is the aggregation of two filesystems: a read-only and a read-write one.
[05:17] <runlevelten> Right, it wouldn't pair but now it is.
[05:18] <k31th> Guys im having some trouble here getting my ressolution correct no my PC>
[05:18] <Kjellviz> kbemusedsrv
[05:18] <Kjellviz> sry wait
[05:18] <davf> What are we looking for in the systray?
[05:18] <k31th> I have a Nvidia Card and a Dell LCD panel 19"
[05:18] <runlevelten> davf, first you want to be running kbluetoothd
[05:18] <k31th> and my ress is stuck in 640
[05:18] <k31th> I can't up the ress any more.
[05:18] <runlevelten> run it through alt-f2
[05:19] <Kjellviz> kbemusedsrv, kbtobexsrv, kbtserialchat,   all 3 enabled
[05:19] <davf> says it runinng but I get this sdc error when I plug in the dongle.
[05:19] <k31th> It works fine in gnome using default ubuntu install.
[05:19] <runlevelten> yeah. you see the icon in the system tray?
[05:19] <runlevelten> right cick the kbluetoothd icon, select configure -> configure services -> confirmation and tell me what rules are there
[05:19] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: kbemusedsrv, kbtobexsrv, kbtserialchat,   all 3 enabled
[05:20] <davf> same
[05:20] <runlevelten> that's in the "Confirmation" tab, right
[05:20] <llp78> dr_willis: thanks for the tip on Unionfs..
[05:20] <runlevelten> not "Local services"
[05:21] <davf> I have nothing in the confirmation tab
[05:21] <runlevelten> excellent.
[05:21] <runlevelten> right, create a rule
[05:21] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: same here
[05:21] <runlevelten> leave it at              *         *          00:00:00:00:00     allow
[05:21] <davf> what should it say? default is * * ask
[05:21] <chaotic> how do i associate torrents  with ktorrent
[05:21] <runlevelten> change it to allow
[05:21] <k31th> Can anyone help at all ?
[05:21] <runlevelten> now click apply
[05:22] <Kjellviz> done
[05:22] <chaotic> where is exec at
[05:22] <davf> same
[05:22] <runlevelten> let's ok out of that and click the icon to open our bluetooth kioslave.
[05:22] <runlevelten> the kbtd icon
[05:22] <davf> kioslave?
[05:22] <runlevelten> folder
[05:22] <chaotic> need  to associate .torrent  to ktorrent
[05:22] <davf> got it.
[05:23] <runlevelten> right. See your device by name?
[05:23] <dr_willis> 'which ktorrent'
[05:23] <Kjellviz> yeps
[05:23] <runlevelten> ie not te dongle, the thing you're tryinf to connect to
[05:23] <davf> mac address and localhost.
[05:23] <runlevelten> click on that, you get
[05:23] <runlevelten> services listed on the device, yeah?
[05:23] <Kjellviz> retreving services
[05:23] <davf> getting an error pairing not allowed.
[05:24] <Kjellviz> yep got the services
[05:24] <starn> thank you every one whom was in part of helping me fix my res
[05:24] <runlevelten> right, first Kjellviz, you can probably pair now - you need to expect the KDE pin dialog to disappear beneath the other ones
[05:24] <runlevelten> just click on obex file transfer or whatever
[05:25] <starn> i i finaly am at my max monitors res and do not have to endure 800x600
[05:25] <Kjellviz> its a keyboard ><
[05:25] <k31th> Ill just put ubuntu back on then.
[05:25] <starn> i shale part now
[05:25] <runlevelten> davf: if you close out of that folder, can you delete any paired devices from kbluetoothd>paired devices, replug the dongle and try again?
[05:26] <davf> I don't have any paired devs.
[05:26] <runlevelten> kbluetoothd>configuration>paired
[05:26] <runlevelten> you don't?
[05:26] <runlevelten> what device is it?
[05:26] <davf> yes empty.
[05:26] <dr_willis> ubuntu and kubuntu use the  same X setup... Hmm..
[05:26] <davf> pda and a mobile phone.
[05:26] <dr_willis> k31th,  it may be your monitor is set wrong not the card.
[05:26] <runlevelten> have you deleted the paired devices from the phone/pda?
[05:26] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, now I got it working with devede, but it had no colors on tv
[05:26] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: i cant seem to pair, but im not 100% sure on how to do it
[05:26] <runlevelten> for the computer..
[05:27] <dr_willis> k31th,  could load the live cd see if it gets the res right, then copy its xorg.conf over to your home to compare to the other xorg.conf file
[05:27] <Schuenemann> weird... I set it to PAL/SECAM
[05:27] <davf> yes nothing paired, actually this is the first time I have tried this.
[05:28] <chaotic> nice associate firefox  torrents with ktorrent
[05:28] <davf> I don't have a link_key file on my hd anywhere.
[05:28] <chaotic> did it
[05:28] <chaotic> a little elbow grease and everything will be fine
[05:28] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, maybe the file was a black and white
[05:29] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, lol, nope
[05:29] <kraut> moin
[05:29] <BluesKaj> sorry, no idea
[05:29] <chaotic> i know someone yesterday said they couldnt associate fire torrents with ktorrnet
[05:29] <Schuenemann> and on the computer it has colors
[05:29] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I'll try with NTSC... but I'm very sure the tv is PAL-N
[05:29] <dr_willis> i always just save my torrents to a Torrents dir. and set up ktorrent to auto/scan/load them
[05:29] <Schuenemann> PAL-M
[05:30] <runlevelten> argh bugger, I have to go. Sorry folks
[05:30] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: ok
[05:30] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: thanks for trying anyways
[05:30] <runlevelten> np, good luck with it :(
[05:30] <davf> k cya
[05:31] <davf> kjellviz I thought you were working now?
[05:31] <k31th> dr_willis: fixed it reconfgured xorg by hand
[05:31] <davf> You see the kbd?
[05:31] <Kjellviz> davf: no im not working yet
[05:32] <dr_willis> k31th,  :) A+
[05:32] <Kjellviz> i got the list with the device services
[05:32] <Kjellviz> but have no idea on how to pair ><
[05:32] <dr_willis> k31th,  i always keep archives of my old/working/otherdisrto xorg.conf files
[05:32] <davf> just click the kbd
[05:32] <dr_willis> its amazing how much different disrtos differ in their xorg.conf layouts
[05:32] <Kjellviz> i did
[05:32] <Kjellviz> and got the list of services
[05:32] <Kjellviz> but still not paired
[05:32] <Kjellviz> no errors either
[05:32] <davf> hmm...
[05:32] <k31th> dr_willis:  :D
[05:33] <Kjellviz> davf: dunno bout you, but im gonna reinstall kubuntu and just not download the updates until its been fixed
[05:33] <Kjellviz> davf: ill prob post a bugreport on it
[05:33] <Kjellviz> or try to scan through all the updates to see if i can find one thats likely to have caused it
[05:33] <davf> ok... good luck. but this should work.
[05:33] <Kjellviz> you got it working ?
[05:34] <davf> not yet
[05:34] <Kjellviz> ok
[05:34] <Kjellviz> well im new to linux
[05:34] <Kjellviz> ive got a brand new comp i havent gotten to use for real for almost a week
[05:34] <Kjellviz> and im puking on this problem atm ><
[05:34] <Kjellviz> so im picking the easy solution for now
[05:34] <davf> A piece of info. There has been a change in the way bt is handled has something to do with hcid.
[05:35] <Kjellviz> ok ?
[05:35] <davf> I am not versed in bt yet but I'm sure I will be once I get through this.
[05:35] <Kjellviz> hehe
[05:35] <Kjellviz> well i aint got time to tinker any longer
[05:35] <davf> you should be working though.
[05:35] <davf> ok cya.
[05:35] <Kjellviz> have a exam to study for ><
[05:35] <davf> good luk
[05:35] <Kjellviz> well i have no idea on how to pair devices even
[05:36] <Kjellviz> i followed runlevelten up to the part where we clicked the device
[05:36] <Kjellviz> got the services listed
[05:36] <Kjellviz> and there i am now
[05:36] <davf> you try clicking a service?
[05:37] <davf> I may have a cheap and dirty fix for you but it isn't secure.
[05:37] <Kjellviz> yep, it tries to save it like im downloading a file
[05:38] <Kjellviz> secure as in others might access my comp via blth ?
[05:38] <davf> in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[05:38] <davf> if they are close enough.
[05:38] <Kjellviz> thats not gonna be a issue, its a stationary laptop ^^
[05:38] <davf> just as a test though. maybe try setting security auto to security none.
[05:38] <davf> in that file.
[05:40] <Kjellviz> yep?
[05:40] <Kjellviz> AHA OK
[05:40] <Kjellviz> lol ill test
[05:40] <davf> just a thought really, anyway, I'm gonna run.
[05:40] <arun> I'm thinking of getting a Dell laptop soon. I was wondering if wifi works 'out of the box', or if I have to configure anything for it to work...
[05:40] <davf> cay kjellviz
[05:40] <davf> cya
[05:40] <Kjellviz> you leaving ?
[05:41] <davf> yup
[05:41] <Kjellviz> ok
[05:41] <Kjellviz> thanks for the tip
[05:41] <tom_> Hi, im having some trouble with apt. It crashed installing a java plugin for firefox and now whenever i run it it thinks theres another pt proces running. How can i fix this?
[05:41] <Kjellviz> and good luck yourself =)
[05:41] <davf> ;)
[05:41] <Kjellviz> arun: that depends heavily on what model you choose and what wifi card it comes with
[05:42] <arun> Kjellviz: any recommended models?
[05:42] <arun> or wifi cards?
[05:42] <Kjellviz> arun: some models have the option of choosing wifi card, so try looking for one that has support
[05:42] <Kjellviz> arun: dunno, havent really looked into wireless cards on linux
[05:43] <Kjellviz> arun: i chose the XPS M1710 for other reasons than mobility :P
[05:43] <arun> :)
[05:43] <Kjellviz> havent tried the wifi yet
[05:43] <arun> i just want to know if it's easy to set up wifi on laptops
[05:44] <Kjellviz> infact ive even disabled it cos it gave me issues starting the livecd
[05:44] <Kjellviz> but thats a known issue with fiesty fawn, not the card itself ><
[05:44] <arun> i will be using different connections.. wifi at a client's office and ethernet at home
[05:44] <arun> so how easy is it to switch, etc
[05:44] <Kjellviz> i had no problems setting up xubuntu on my C610 using a pcmcia linksys card
[05:44] <Kjellviz> but i was in luck that my card worked
[05:45] <Kjellviz> have had other cards that made me wanna pull out every hair and nail on my body
[05:45] <Kjellviz> rather than trying to get them to work ><
[05:47] <Kjellviz> but im off
[05:47] <Kjellviz> cya later
[05:47] <Kjellviz> =)
[05:53] <melkor> I had a question about html aethstetics
[05:57] <faires> Hello, I've just installed a dapper drake version, and want to upgrade it to Feisty.
[05:58] <faires> I readed at www.kubuntu.org that I should first upgrade to Edgy, and it recommended me to use update manager
[05:59] <BluesKaj> faires, you'll have to upgrade to edfgy first then from edgy to feisty ...think i'd just DL feisty and reinstall, but that's your choice
[05:59] <BluesKaj> err edgy
[05:59] <faires> But update manager opens, say to me that there's an Edgy available, but when it starts to see if it's available, it simply close...
[06:00] <BluesKaj> yes, cuz there's no way to upgrade to feisty from dapper
[06:00] <BluesKaj> directly
[06:00] <t_maus> change your sources.list
[06:01] <t_maus> and type in the console apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:01] <t_maus> normally there should be no problem
[06:01] <t_maus> why do you want do upgrade von drapper to feisty
[06:01] <faires> BluesKaj: but is there any way to update to edgy using update manager
[06:01] <BluesKaj> t-maus that may break some apps ...it's not that easy
[06:01] <t_maus> which apps
[06:02] <erov> BluesKaj: it may break it initially.. but its never broken.. have done that since 5.10.. im now running gutsy current ;)
[06:02] <erov> 100% i might add..
[06:02] <erov> i wouldnt recommend it.. but it does work and is never totally irrecoverable
[06:03] <faires> t_maus: I want feisty because of KDE3.5
[06:03] <BluesKaj>  too many cooks here ...if you guys think he can jump a distro be my guest and help him do it ...i want no part in that kind of update
[06:03] <t_maus> does anybody know when the next realese of a long term support will come
[06:04] <aubade> t_maus: 8.04
[06:04] <wsjunior> where knetworkconf settings are stored?
[06:04] <aubade> Supposedly, it isn't concrete.
[06:04] <faires> t_maus: and I'm not used to work with debian-like linuxes, so I'm afraid to crap it out, and lose my last night's job... :)
[06:04] <t_maus> thx :)
[06:05] <faires> BluesKaj: is there any way of upgrading from dapper to edgy using Update Manager?
[06:05] <t_maus> @faires, ok is there no special line for sources.list that you can add so that drapper drake also have the new kde
[06:05] <BluesKaj> faires, not that i know of
[06:05] <faires> oh ... :(
[06:06] <faires> t_maus: sorry, I don't think I understood your phrase... :(
[06:06] <t_maus> @faires  wait a second
[06:06] <BluesKaj> there maybe one in update manager ..I ve just never done it, faires
[06:07] <vviz\lappy> Having some problems. Bought myself a Vaio laptop with a blu-ray writer. The install recognizes the drive, and lets me install the system. But after install, the system does not recognize my cdrom anymore (/dev/hda). Anyone with similiar problems?
[06:07] <vviz\lappy> Worked fine with Gentoo
[06:07] <yotux> are the md5sums different for torrents compared to downloads?
[06:08] <vviz\lappy> It's the only pata-drive in the sytem. All SATA (internal and external) is recognized fine.
[06:08] <erov> ok.. wanna update? "cd /etc/apt ; sudo nano sources.list ; ^W ^R dapper with edgy ^X Y ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  that's erov's way but i also stay barefoot, take baths every other day and drive till my cars on E, play the bango and permantly missing one tooth with more to follow.. :) j/k thats if you want to grow hair on your chest, faires
[06:10] <faires> erov: hehehehe, thanks, but I still prefer to try first the chicken's way... :)
[06:11] <wsjunior> where knetworkconf settings are stored?
[06:13] <stephen> yo
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello All... HOw do I change themes in Kubuntu..
[06:16] <stephen_> thats easy
[06:16] <stephen_> i only got linux last night
[06:16] <stephen_> and i know
[06:17] <stephen_> go to the start menu
[06:17] <stephen_> and system setting
[06:17] <stephen_> then click on appearance
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Do I just drop the tar file onto the manager linke in ubuntu?
[06:18] <stephen_> i dunno bout that
[06:18] <stephen_> i dunno what a tar is
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> I wanted to add a theme I got from kde-look.org
[06:19] <faires> erov BluesKaj t_maus: thanks a lot for the help. I'll try something else here, and, if it all fails, I'll try the [nice|toughe] r way... :)
[06:20] <stephen_> look on that site for a tutorial
[06:20] <stephen_> do you knoow how to install apps?
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes
[06:20] <stephen_> if you help me
[06:20] <stephen_> i will search with you
[06:20] <stephen_> i need to install rar
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Not necessary...
[06:20] <stephen_> lol
[06:20] <stephen_> :(
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> LEt me get you going on installing apps
[06:21] <stephen_> ill help you too
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> click on add remove progs..
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> enter your password
[06:21] <stephen_> done
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> adept will come up
[06:22] <stephen_> yes ^^
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> in search try ksudoku
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> just as an example
[06:23] <stephen_> no results :(
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> actually that is already installed
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> check your spelling
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> it came up here
[06:24] <stephen_> says applications/games
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> you might need to enable some repositories
[06:24] <stephen_> i dunno how :(
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> search for chess
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> see what comes up..
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> I dont use KDE wm much.. I am more of a gnome person
[06:24] <stephen_> xboard
[06:25] <stephen_> but its greyed out
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> every other line is a different color.. try to select it
[06:26] <stephen_> it keeps crashing
[06:26] <stephen_> lol
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry I cant be more help.. like I said I use Ubuntu.. aka Gnome..
[06:27] <stephen_> im using kubuntu
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> I was just looking at KDE to show my niece something with the theme
[06:28] <stephen_> hmmm
[06:28] <stephen_> i just updated my kubuntu
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> someone will be around that can help you
[06:28] <stephen_> but it still crashes in some apps
[06:28] <stephen_> :(
[06:28] <stephen_> ok
[06:28] <stephen_> thx for trying mate
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> I prefer fresh installs to upgrades..
[06:28] <stephen_> is ubuntu easier?
[06:29] <k31th> hum kde feels less complete than gnome ?
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> I use apt-get or synaptic for most of my software changes
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> KDE feels more like windows..
[06:29] <stephen_> lol
[06:29] <k31th> ?
[06:29] <stephen_> ill download ubuntu then
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> It took a little bit longer for me to get comfortable with gnome.. but now I love it
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec..
[06:30] <k31th> how on earth does kde feel like windows
[06:30] <stephen_> i dont like the kde font
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> you can add ubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> and switch between window managers at your login prompt
[06:30] <BluesKaj> Jack_Sparrow, go promote gnome elsewhere , this is KDE country :)
[06:30] <stephen_> is there a windows emulator?
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> you can try in terminal  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> blue... then help him.
[06:31] <BluesKaj> just got back from errands
[06:31] <stephen_> you can help me ?
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> I wantn't looking to promote either..
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Dosent sound like it
[06:32] <BluesKaj> the guy comes into the expecting help with Kubuntu not ubuntu...what's the trouble stephen_ ?
[06:33] <stephen_> i need to install rar and java
[06:33] <stephen_> im not sure about how to since i only installed kubuntu yesterday night
[06:33] <runlevelten> KDE feels more like windows?! Are you smoking drugs?
[06:33] <stephen_> be nice to him lol he tryed to help
[06:35] <stephen_> can someone direct me to a tutorial to install java and rar
[06:35] <stephen_> please
[06:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !java
[06:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:35] <BluesKaj> open adept and type unrar, stephen_
[06:36] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info unrar
[06:36] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[06:36] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: That won't help if he doesn't have multiverse enabled.
[06:36] <stephen_> no results for unrar
[06:36] <BluesKaj> right
[06:37] <stephen_> i need to enable multiverse
[06:37] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !multiverse
[06:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:37] <stephen_> but dunno how
[06:37] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> what ubotu just put up will help.
[06:37] <stephen_> i looked at that earlier
[06:38] <stephen_> and was confused
[06:38] <stephen_> lol
[06:38] <BluesKaj> ok , best way is to edit the sources.list stephen_ .alt+f2 type 'kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:39] <chaotic> hey
[06:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hey chaotic.
[06:39] <runlevelten> hi chaotic :)
[06:39] <chaotic> yyeah    i   just installed xp  on a free  partition
[06:39] <chaotic> hmmmm
[06:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ...
[06:39] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: sure about that?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> now we are going to delete the # infront of lines the begin with .deb
[06:40] <runlevelten> chaotic: Oh, I'm sorry, my condolences.
[06:40] <chaotic> i cant boot linux
[06:40] <stephen_> i typed that and it asked for for the password
[06:40] <stephen_> and i entered it
[06:40] <stephen_> and nothing happened
[06:40] <chaotic> ntldr
[06:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !grub | chaotic
[06:40] <ubotu> chaotic: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:40] <Ace2016> kdesu kwrite  then file > open and find the file open and edit
[06:40] <stephen_> is ubotu a bot?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> stephen , try again sometimes it takes a fe tries
[06:40] <BluesKaj> few
[06:41] <Ace2016> stephen_: http://ace2016.net/tutorials/linux/run-windows-xp-applications-seamlessly-on-your-linux-desktop
[06:41] <Ace2016> wait nevermind
[06:41] <Ace2016> forget that
[06:41] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: "kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:41] <Ace2016> it was in my shift+inset
[06:41] <Ace2016> what i wanted was shift+delete
[06:41] <Ace2016> :(
[06:41] <BluesKaj> ok , Ace2016 do want to help ...then take over if you wish ..toomany cooks confuses
[06:41] <stephen_> IM INTO THE FILE WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:42] <Ace2016> nope you carry on, i just wanted to let you know since you might not have realised yet
[06:42] <BluesKaj> WhtWolfTeraDyne, ok , best way is to edit the sources.list stephen_ .alt+f2 type 'kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:42] <stephen_> so what do i edit now in this file?
[06:42] <Ace2016> !easysource
[06:42] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:42] <stephen_> ive opened the file already
[06:42] <moonshine> !codecs
[06:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: You missed it again...
[06:43] <stephen_> so im in the file........now what?
[06:43] <BluesKaj> delete the # in front of source lines that start with .deb
[06:43] <BluesKaj> there are prolly just 2 or 3
[06:43] <stephen_> source lines?
[06:44] <BluesKaj> lines then
[06:44] <stephen_> im confused :S
[06:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: the lines that start with "# deb". Remove the #
[06:44] <stephen_> oh
[06:44] <stephen_> i see
[06:44] <stephen_> thx
[06:44] <stephen_> ok
[06:44] <stephen_> done
[06:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: now save it.
[06:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> and close out
[06:45] <stephen_> ok
[06:45] <stephen_> done
[06:45] <BluesKaj> click on save , then in the konsole do 'sudo aptitude update'
[06:45] <apk> ppl hi
[06:45] <stephen_> the terminal program?
[06:45] <BluesKaj> yes
[06:46] <apk> any body there?
[06:46] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: If you want a graphical option, you can use the "Fetch Updates" button in Adept to do the same thing.
[06:46] <stephen_> its installing
[06:46] <stephen_> thanks a lot guys
[06:46] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> apk: There's people here. What do you need help with?
[06:47] <stephen_> i think its finished installing
[06:47] <apk> yes, I need help with amarok, how to see non utf symbols in tags?
[06:47] <BluesKaj> stephen_, check this out as well, it will open up your options to other apps
[06:48] <BluesKaj> !sourc-omatic
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourc-omatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <BluesKaj> !sourco-matic
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourco-matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> apk: That might be better asked in #amarok .
[06:48] <BluesKaj> geezus
[06:48] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !source-o-matic
[06:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:48] <apk> thx
[06:48] <chaotic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30022/
[06:48] <chaotic> which one do i mount
[06:49] <BluesKaj> thx WhtWolfTeraDyne
[06:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !grub > WhtWolfTeraDyne
[06:50] <BluesKaj> stephen_, did you get that source-o-matic suggestion /
[06:50] <chaotic> !grub
[06:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:50] <chaotic> can i make a grub cdr
[06:51] <stephen_> ok i ran that source-omatic thing
[06:51] <chaotic> mkdir /mnt/root
[06:51] <chaotic> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/root': File exists
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Anyone know what to do if your computer "plays" sounds, but you can't hear them? I don't have anything muted unless it's something hidden very well.
[06:52] <BluesKaj> stephen_, now you'll have more sources available in the sources.list  which is a vehicle that adept and synaptic use to navigate to the repositories that have the apps that you may want
[06:52] <stephen_> lol i cant hear anything either
[06:53] <stephen_> ok
[06:53] <stephen_> so do i do that thing again?
[06:53] <BluesKaj> well apt and aptitude as well
[06:53] <stephen_> delete the #
[06:53] <K-Ryan> I don't hear anything, but I don't get errors, I hate it.
[06:53] <BluesKaj> no, they are already done for you
[06:53] <stephen_> ok
[06:54] <stephen_> and this will allow me to install java and rar?
[06:54] <BluesKaj> stephen_, just check your souces list like you did earlier
[06:55] <stephen_> ok
[06:55] <stephen_> now some more updates are available :)
[06:55] <BluesKaj> it depends on how you answered the questions in the source-o-matic page ...it generates the repository adresses to look at for the apps you want
[06:56] <stephen_> i ticked all the boxes lol
[06:57] <stephen_> ill brb im updating the system
[06:57] <BluesKaj> ok, so you have a completely updated list ...you just have to activate it bu doing sudo aptitude update in the terminal ... I normally ignore the adept updater cuz it's buggy
[06:57] <pclip> yay! i just got samba set up and working with windows :)
[06:58] <pclip> all in vmware as well ;)
[06:58] <BluesKaj> congrats pclip
[06:58] <pclip> now i need to figure out how to install pgsql
[06:59] <dave_> how do i go about installing nethack? it's a tgz file :o
[06:59] <K-Ryan> Does anyone see anything wrong in this? I'm trying to figure out why my sound isn't working, http://pastebin.com/m38ad199e
[06:59] <dave_> i've tried lots of commands :(
[07:00] <pclip> ohh - how can i stop firefox beeping when i do a search and it doesn't find the word on the page?
[07:00] <stephen> :O 20 minutes rmain on update
[07:00] <dave_> yeah that's annoying i wnana know how to change that too :)
[07:02] <BluesKaj> stephen, I hope it works for you , after done i recommend dumping adept updater cuz it's buggy and can cause probs with some apps ...best way is to update with aptitude or apt
[07:02] <iggz> hey guys
[07:02] <stevo111> lol
[07:02] <stevo111> im on my ds now
[07:03] <stevo111> irc on nds :O
[07:03] <iggz> i had a question, if you don't mind, what's the difference between wifi0 and ath0 interfaces
[07:03] <iggz> for wireless cards
[07:04] <stephen_> oooh
[07:04] <stephen_> i need to get my wifi max working on linux
[07:04] <K-Ryan> Mine worked out of the box =)
[07:04] <jhutchins> iggz: It's essentially two different layers of driver.
[07:04] <K-Ryan> D-Link WNA-2330
[07:05] <jhutchins> iggz: One loads the firmware for the card, the other talks to it.
[07:05] <iggz> i want to monitor my up and download speeds, with knetstat, which should i monitor?
[07:06] <jhutchins> iggz: Well, I don't have mine up right now, but I'd just have to try one, if that didn't show anything try the other.
[07:06] <iggz> the problem is that they both show stuff, it's alittle different though
[07:06] <stephen_> juan...
[07:06] <stephen_> you was on dsorganize
[07:07] <iggz> i'll just monitor wifi, thanks alot
[07:07] <iggz> for your help
[07:08] <stephen_> hmmm
[07:08] <juan> i have a small question
[07:09] <K-Ryan> !ask
[07:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:09] <chaotic> !grub
[07:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto