[10:08] <ibqn> what is the current naming policy for the sources? some are named like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/ubuntu-wallpapers_13.04.0daily13.03.20.orig.tar.gz and some like ubuntu-themes_13.04daily13.04.12.orig.tar.gz. the difference is that  the first version is 13.04.0 with .0 attached :\
[10:15] <kaushal> in pidgin conversation window is hidden on 13.04 raring unity
[10:15] <kaushal> Any clue?
[10:19] <Excryption> Hello, I need help with my Dell laptop please. It has an Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M. I just went into Software Sources and selected a proprietary driver, after reboot, Unity won't launch. I have switched to iGPU using "aticonfig --px-igpu" and it still won't boot. Ideally I would like to have both working since it would be a waste to only use the iGPU but I don't mind. Any help please?
[10:21] <wushu> hey guys, I am locked out of my server because ssh returns "too many auth failures". configured ssh to only accept one user and allow only one password attempt. everything worked smoothly when sshing from another computer a few hours ago, but now I'm getting blocked. tried restarting the server remotely from the isp control panel to no avail. can someone please help me?
[10:22] <Jynx> wushu: try log in for some where else
[10:22] <Jynx> remove bans etc
[10:22] <bekks> wushu: You locked out yourself - You need t log in using a remote serial console, and set a more reasonable value for failed attempts.
[10:22] <wushu> Jynx: just tried logging in from another server. same issue
[10:23] <Jynx> what host are you using
[10:23] <wushu> mediatemple
[10:23] <Jynx> did you edit ssh configs
[10:23] <Jynx> or u running some kind of fail2ban
[10:24] <loganlee> can u run ubuntu on android
[10:25] <wushu> Jynx: yes only edited ssh config to only allow my user account, running on a non-standard port and accepting only one auth attempt. this config have been working well for several weeks and I did not edit the config prior to this issue
[10:25] <Jynx> did you update/upgrade os
[10:25] <wushu> nope
[10:25] <DJones> !touch | loganlee You can install Ubuntu on some android devices, best place to ask would be here,
[10:25] <bekks> wushu: Then you just had luck for not being locked out. Just one failed attempt from someone else will lock you out.
[10:26] <bekks> wushu: You need to have remote console access now.
[10:26] <Jynx> wushu: try pm me the ip
[10:26] <bekks> wushu: Be careful with offers like that, as a general advice.
[10:26] <exogen> Hello. After report a bug remains apport-gtk in RAM up to 64MB until I reboot. Is that normal or a bug?
[10:27] <bekks> exogen: You need to look it up at Launchpad.
[10:28] <exogen> bekks: I did it but not found a open bug..
[10:28] <wushu> bekks: I see what you mean with the auth failures, but it should only block attempts for each session - it does not store the ip so it should not be a problem the way i see it
[10:29] <wushu> bekks: but will try from the host
[10:29] <piglit> in windows i can use windows button left arrow to make a window go to the left part of the monitor and windows button right to the make a window go to the right half of the window are there any quick keys for this in Ubuntu ?
[10:29] <bekks> wushu: As you can see, it is a problem ;)
[10:29] <wushu> lol true
[10:31] <Excryption> Hello, I need help with my Dell laptop please. It has an Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M. I just went into Software Sources and selected a proprietary driver, after reboot, Unity won't launch. I have switched to iGPU using "aticonfig --px-igpu" and it still won't boot. Ideally I would like to have both working since it would be a waste to only use the iGPU but I don't mind. Any help please?
[10:31] <Lasse-> How is NVIDIA Optimus support with latest Ubuntu?
[10:32] <bekks> Lasse-: Optimus itself is support by Windows only due to Nvidia. Using other OS, you have to choose which graphics adapter you want to use.
[10:33] <Lasse-> I heard that Nvidia has brought initial Optimus-support in one of the newer drivers, not sure if that's correct or not.
[10:38] <WiCkEd_> Anyone play troubleshoot playonlinux for DOTA2 through steam?
[10:41] <HelloWorld> hello
[10:41] <WiCkEd_> yo
[10:41] <HelloWorld> good day
[10:41] <WiCkEd_> likewise
[10:41] <Excryption> Hello, I need help with my Dell laptop please. It has an Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M. I just went into Software Sources and selected a proprietary driver, after reboot, Unity won't launch. I have switched to iGPU using "aticonfig --px-igpu" and it still won't boot. Ideally I would like to have both working since it would be a waste to only use the iGPU but I don't mind. Any help please?
[10:41] <HelloWorld> I need help with ubuntu
[10:41] <lolgnu> Excryption: I have the same!
[10:42] <lolgnu> Excryption: but neither works
[10:42] <Excryption> Lol :-)
[10:42] <lolgnu> Excryption: let me know if you figure it out
[10:42] <Excryption> I will do
[10:42] <bekks> HelloWorld: Start with asking a specific question then. :)
[10:44] <HelloWorld> Question: how do I install java plugin for Ubuntu? I use chrome and i downloaded those 2 java links, how do I proceed?
[10:44] <Lasse-> HelloWorld: Just install ubuntu-restricted-extras package.
[10:45] <bekks> !java | HelloWorld
[10:45] <withnale> anyone know how I can bind <Super>w to a mouse button? (mouse9)
[10:46] <HelloWorld> I only need java plugin (JRE) for browsers such as chrome....
[10:47] <HelloWorld> how do I install ubuntu-restricted-extras package????
[10:47] <bekks> HelloWorld: Just read the link you've been given.
[10:47] <Lasse-> HelloWorld: How about reading some Ubuntu basics :)?
[10:47] <Lasse-> It will help you a great deal.
[10:48] <dstevens> HelloWorld: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-addons ??
[10:48] <HelloWorld> lasse- are you from hameenlinna?
[10:48] <Lasse-> No, but I am from Finland.
[10:49] <Lasse-> Why?
[10:52] <victornet> hi all
[10:52] <victornet> i have a problem trying to join to a AD domain
[10:53] <victornet> could you help me?
[10:53] <Lasse-> What kind of problem, that would help for starters.
[10:53] <bekks> !details | victornet
[10:53] <bekks> !pm | wushu
[10:53] <victornet> running version 12.04
[10:54] <romtsjo> anyone can help?
[10:54] <bekks> romtsjo: You have to ask a question before, regarding a specific problem :)
[10:54] <victornet> i'm trying to join with my corp domain with domainjoin-cli join mycoprdomain userdomain
[10:54] <Lasse-> What kind of error you get victornet?
[10:55] <Lasse-> Please give as much details as you can.
[10:55] <victornet> but i'm gettin error_assertion_failure [0x029c]
[10:55] <Lasse-> We can't read your mind after all.
[10:55] <vargadanis> with ubuntu v. 13.4 how to I install php5-openssl extension?
[10:55] <bekks> victornet: Whats the full, detailed, exact error message you get?
[10:56] <bekks> victornet: Put it into a pastebin please.
[10:56] <romtsjo> bekks, i have a problem with my broadcom ethernet in 13.04
[10:56] <TotalN00b> hello everyone
[10:56] <Lasse-> romtsjo: What chipset?
[10:56] <bekks> !details > romtsjo
[10:56] <TotalN00b> i have a question about lubuntu
[10:56] <IceD^> question - what are my options to configure touchpad. I got some lenovo laptop with mega idiotic buttons right behind touchpad surface itself, so I can
[10:56] <IceD^> t even click on link - mouse moves to random directions
[10:57] <HelloWorld> I installed the restricted package
[10:57] <HelloWorld> but now what?
[10:57] <Lasse-> Then you should have Java.
[10:57] <victornet> i'm introducing in the shell: "sudo domainjoin-cli join emea.mycorp victor
[10:57] <TotalN00b> yesterday my sound on my laptop worked ,but now it dosent :(
[10:57] <bekks> HelloWorld: Read the article you have been given.
[10:57] <HelloWorld> I dont see java in extensions???
[10:57] <Lasse-> Although I don't remember exact details, been ages since I used Ubuntu last time.
[10:57] <bekks> HelloWorld: The JRE will not install a brwoser plugin. So please read the article.
[10:57] <Lasse-> Just looking forward to use it on my work-laptop for Linux porting.
[10:57] <gyaresu> I don't have a keyboard layout listed that matches my MacbookAir 9,2 ( http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2841 'English - Apple Notebook' Any suggestions please?
[10:58] <TotalN00b> any help :(?
[10:58] <bekks> TotalN00b: How about starting to ask your real question first?
[10:58] <gyaresu> Ubuntu 13.04 under VirtualBox on a http://support.apple.com/kb/SP670?viewlocale=en_US (Macbook Air 9,2)
[10:58] <Lasse-> TotalN00b: Have you checked your sound settings to make sure there's nothing muted?
[10:58] <TotalN00b> i asked my question ,yesterday sound worked fine on my newly lubuntu installed laptop ,but today it dosent
[10:58] <victornet> and the system is getting me an error: ERROR_ASSERTION_FAILURE [code 0x0000029c]
[10:58] <bekks> TotalN00b: Thats not a question at all ;)
[10:59] <HelloWorld> I installed the ubuntu restricted package, I should have java plugin now????
[10:59] <bekks> HelloWorld: Do you ignore me?
[10:59] <Lasse-> HelloWorld: Read what is told to you please.
[10:59] <IceD^> TotalN00b: that isn't question.
[10:59] <bekks> HelloWorld: I told you three times what to do.
[10:59] <Lasse-> HelloWorld: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software   Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.
[10:59] <TotalN00b> how do i get my sound back working?
[10:59] <romtsjo> bekks, if I use live session of 13.04 or installed 12.10 - all is good. but when I install 13.04 on my HP Compaq NX 7400 - I have only VPN connection. 'modprobe ssb' and 'modprobe b44' don't work. terminal stopping and doing nothing
[10:59] <Lasse-> TotalN00b: Did you check your audio settings?
[10:59] <Lasse-> romtsjo: You probably need to install a firmware.
[11:00] <TotalN00b> i cant see my audio settings
[11:00] <bekks> romtsjo: "dont work" is very generic. And besides that, the module is named b43.
[11:00] <Lasse-> and for that you need a working connection.
[11:00] <IceD^> so guys. what about touchpad... I really need to work on this laptop for next 3 days (than I can trash it and never use laptops again)
[11:00] <victornet> no ideas?
[11:00] <victornet> :(
[11:00] <bekks> victornet: I am still waiting for your pastebin.
[11:00] <bekks> !pastebin | victornet
[11:01] <vargadanis> IceD^, disable touchpad, use mouse
[11:01] <IceD^> vargadanis: that will require me to find some hardware shop around here
[11:01] <IceD^> and find some surface for mouse ;]
[11:01] <Lasse-> I love how people ask stuff and then just leave.
[11:02] <Lasse-> Before you have time to help more.
[11:02] <bekks> Lasse-: They just dont like the fact we cant read their mind. :>
[11:02] <Lasse-> Hehe.
[11:03] <Lasse-> Well, I am a bit rusty with Ubuntu anyway, mostly an Arch-user but looking to use Ubuntu on my new work-laptop, since for that I want a system that offers ootb-experience without much manual work.
[11:03] <victornet> victor@millan10:~$sudo domainjoin-cli join emea.xcorp.net millan
[11:03] <bekks> victornet: Use a pastebin.  We're done. Good luck.
[11:04] <vargadanis> Lasse-, what is ootb-experience?
[11:04] <Lasse-> Out-of-the-box.
[11:04] <vargadanis> gee
[11:04] <vargadanis> well I learned something today
[11:04] <HelloWorld> I in stall it in/through Ubuntu Software Center???
[11:05] <HelloWorld> *install
[11:05] <bekks> HelloWorld: Ignore set.
[11:05] <romtsjo> bekks, b43 is wireless driver. but I don't have ethernet
[11:05] <IceD^> vargadanis: huh :)
[11:05] <bekks> romtsjo: Then whats the output of lspci | grep -i ?
[11:06] <Lasse-> IceD^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad Checked this?
[11:07] <romtsjo> bekks, grep -i is unknown
[11:07] <romtsjo> bekks, Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX
[11:07] <victornet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5650772/plain/
[11:08] <victornet> domainjoin-cli join emea.xcorp.net millan Joining to AD Domain: emea.xcorp.net whit Computer DNS Name: millan10.emea.xcorp.net  Error: ERROR_ASSERTION_FAILURE [code 0x0000029c]
[11:08] <bekks> romtsjo: grep -i should be known :)
[11:09] <bekks> romtsjo: And whats the output of ifconfig -a ?
[11:09] <chunkyhead> does anyone have any experience with package named fakeroot? ref: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819396
[11:09] <llutz> grep -i needs a pattern
[11:10] <HelloWorld> JAVA still not installed....
[11:10] <IceD^> Lasse-: nothing useful there. I believe there is some app where I can disable part of touchpad
[11:10] <HelloWorld> despite installing open Web browser plugin based on OpenJDK and IcedTea to execute Java applets
[11:10] <jony_easyrider> in Krusader when entering in an archive it gives me the following error: "Error: krarc is disabled." Please help!
[11:11] <IceD^> which will be enough for me. note - I (virtually) never used laptops (nor ubuntu) before
[11:12] <bodhi32> hi, I can not configure a WG111T, could you help me?
[11:12] <bekks> bodhi32: Whats a WG111T?
[11:12] <romtsjo> bekks, eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:08:3a:72:c9
[11:12] <romtsjo>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:12] <romtsjo>           inet6 addr: fe80::217:8ff:fe3a:72c9/64 Scope:Link
[11:12] <romtsjo>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[11:12] <romtsjo>           RX packets:935 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[11:12] <romtsjo>           TX packets:861 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[11:12] <FloodBot1> romtsjo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:12] <FloodBot3> romtsjo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:12] <bodhi32> key usb wi-fi netgear
[11:12] <bekks> romtsjo: Use a pastebin.
[11:12] <bekks> bodhi32: And which chipset does it have?
[11:13] <Lasse-> bekks: he pasted "Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX"
[11:13] <Lasse-> a bit above.
[11:13] <bekks> romtsjo: You have eth0, which is ethernet, most likely.
[11:13] <bekks> Lasse-: Different person ;)
[11:13] <Lasse-> Uhm, nope?
[11:13] <Lasse-> oops
[11:13] <Lasse-> lol
[11:13] <Lasse-> yes.
[11:13] <Lasse-> Sorry.
[11:14] <romtsjo> bekks, yes. on live session I have. but when install
[11:14] <bodhi32> I do not know!
[11:14] <romtsjo> bekks, I say it from beginning
[11:14] <bekks> bodhi32: romtsjo Did you follow this guide already? http://askubuntu.com/questions/14970/broadcom-bcm4401-b0-100base-tx-issues
[11:14] <Lasse-> bodhi32: try lsusb?
[11:14] <torpet> hi, helped a friend to install ubuntu via phone and hes wondering where to find skype in 13.04
[11:14] <bekks> !skype | torpet
[11:14] <torpet> its not in the partner repos atm, what is the best way to install it?
[11:15] <Lasse-> bodhi32: If it's an USB-adapter, which it seems to be, use lsusb.
[11:16] <victornet> :(
[11:16]  * Wizard hands victornet a cookie.
[11:16] <bodhi32> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5650798/
[11:17] <Wizard> !Ekiga
[11:17] <bekks> victornet: Pastebin the command and the entire output. Not just the parts you think they are important.
[11:18] <victornet> this is the whole command :)
[11:18] <Lasse-> bodhi32: Quick google search brought up the fact that before at least you had to use Windows drivers with ndiswrapper to make that adapter work.
[11:20] <cloneG> ubuntu sucks
[11:20] <Lasse-> Ok.
[11:21] <bodhi32> I followed a procedure from the internet but do not run
[11:21] <cloneG> I want the 3d acceleration back!!
[11:21] <bekks> cloneG: Install a driver capable of it.
[11:21] <Lasse-> !details | cloneG
[11:21] <Lasse-> See, I am learning. :D
[11:22] <Tm_T> cloneG: this is support channel, where you get help by calmly presenting the question with related details
[11:22] <cloneG> oh you want some more huh?
[11:22] <cloneG> well once upon a time...
[11:22] <bekks> cloneG: You did not provide any details yet, besides a generic wish and a rant.
[11:23] <Lasse-> cloneG: despite the common belief, we can't read peoples mind.
[11:23] <cloneG> ...I had ubuntu 12.04 up and running flawlessly gaming at second life....
[11:23] <Lasse-> Which graphics adapter?
[11:23] <cloneG> and suddenly!!
[11:23] <bekks> cloneG: USing which graphics hardware and which driver?
[11:24] <cloneG> it got stuck...
[11:24] <cloneG> graphics were slowing down...
[11:24] <cloneG> and I couldnt even close the window...
[11:24] <ayzaaz17> does ubuntu 13.04 have the usb mobile broadband bug
[11:24] <bekks> cloneG: Answer my questions please. And stop hammering your . key.
[11:24] <vampirnata> Your problem is that you are playing Second Life
[11:24] <cloneG> I lost my temper and reboot using power button
[11:24] <sdd> hi
[11:25] <cloneG> hey let me finish the tale
[11:25] <cloneG> once the system got up again...
[11:25] <cloneG> it was not the same...
[11:25] <cloneG> something obscure had happened
[11:25] <bekks> cloneG: Do what you want, dont count on help from me when telling fairy tales in here. Good luck.
[11:26] <vampirnata> Dammit man, type on one line and don't use ENTER as punctuation!
[11:26] <cloneG> sorry bekks
[11:26] <cloneG> the point is nvidia geforce 8800 gt ubuntu 12.04 64 bits stopped running 3d acceleration when upgrading kernel
[11:27] <Lasse-> Tried updating to newer driver?
[11:27] <cloneG> I ve tried it all
[11:27] <vampirnata> Well if you tried it ALL then it would be working :p
[11:27] <Lasse-> Does glxgears run?
[11:27] <cloneG> drivers from ubuntu packages drivers from third party and drivers from nvidia
[11:27] <ayzaaz17> :-D
[11:27] <cloneG> becoming desperate
[11:27] <Lasse-> Made sure Nouveau's not installed?
[11:27] <vampirnata> How about going back to the working kernel? Did you have a reason for updating the kernel?
[11:28] <ayzaaz17> :)
[11:28] <ayzaaz17> :)
[11:28] <cloneG> glxgears not working
[11:28] <ayzaaz17> :0
[11:28] <Lasse-> vampirnata: That's not a solution though.
[11:28] <ayzaaz17> :)
[11:28] <vampirnata> If it ain't broke...
[11:28] <cloneG> earlier kernels have same problem now
[11:28] <Lasse-> User's system shouldn't break with single kernel update. :P
[11:28] <cloneG> each time I install anything nvidia related system hangs at battery state
[11:28] <ayzaaz17> h
[11:29] <vampirnata> Lasse-: Erm, of course it can...
[11:29] <Lasse-> Yes it can, but it SHOULD NOT.
[11:29] <cloneG> and kernlog says:nvrm rminitadapter failed!
[11:29] <Wizard> cloneG: Did you installad this drivers by hand from nvidia site, from PPA or other non-official source?
[11:29] <Wizard> did you install*
[11:30] <Lasse-> cloneG: Your best bet would probably be deleting all Nvidia-related work you have done and start from scratch.
[11:30] <cloneG> all the options you mentioned Wizard were tested
[11:30] <cloneG> okay I am at that scratch point...with an unease itching btw
[11:30] <Lasse-> Also, do you have installed some system stuff from third party?
[11:31] <Lasse-> Those could cause problems.
[11:31] <Wizard> Ah, so you *did* use PPA?
[11:31] <cloneG> only ppa
[11:31] <cloneG> xorg edgers?
[11:31] <Wizard> Well.. Now only Hades knows what kind of mess you have :D
[11:31] <Lasse-> Try reverting to stock xorg.
[11:32] <cloneG> I installed swat x and xorg edgers ppas
[11:32] <Wizard> LOL, this is just amazing :D
[11:32] <cloneG> but now I am in desktop again thanks to: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[11:32] <Lasse-> Maybe you shouldn't randomly install newer Xorgs :P
[11:32] <Lasse-> Unless they provide something you need.
[11:32] <cloneG> no 3d acceleration though
[11:32] <Lasse-> Revert to stock Xorg like I said.
[11:33] <cloneG> randomly? I thought they were news for the system
[11:33] <cloneG> improvements
[11:33] <Lasse-> Well, if using such a PPAs, you should be prepared for possible system breakage.
[11:33] <Exxcryption> Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this please - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5650845/
[11:33] <Lasse-> And be sure you know how to revert & fix issues.
[11:34] <cloneG> how  do I revert to stock xorg Lasse-?
[11:34] <IceD^> ubuntu is broken ootb
[11:34] <Lasse-> cloneG: Try removing the PPAs from your list.
[11:34] <bekks> IceD^: For me, it isnt.
[11:34] <cloneG> Lasse- and then?
[11:34] <IceD^> so you can only make it more or less broken
[11:34] <Lasse-> Then deleling some xorg and reinstall it from Ubuntu's repo.
[11:34] <Lasse-> *deleting whole
[11:34] <IceD^> bekks: try to change font size :)
[11:34] <Wizard> IceD^: Go away, that's trolling.
[11:34] <Lasse-> What am I typing :|
[11:34] <bekks> IceD^: I did. Works.
[11:35] <cloneG> do I need to install ubuntu repo? Lasse-
[11:35] <Lasse-> No.
[11:35] <Lasse-> Unless you have removed those.
[11:35] <IceD^> you can't - you need to find out about "ubuntu-tweak-something" and install it first. no such option in stock ubuntu
[11:35] <Wizard> cloneG: As far as I know, reverting to stock xorg will mean serious troubles.
[11:35] <IceD^> and it's not trolling by all means
[11:35] <cloneG> Lasse- so just removing those alien ppas and updating system? seems a wise and easy solution
[11:36] <Wizard> cloneG: apt has poor downgrade capabilities.
[11:36] <Lasse-> cloneG: sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg
[11:36] <Wizard> IceD^: It is.
[11:36] <Lasse-> then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[11:36] <Lasse-> also remove all Nvidia drivers if you have some left.
[11:36] <Lasse-> and reinstall those from Ubuntu's repo too after you have the stock Xorg.
[11:36] <bekks> IceD^: You did not ask how I change dthe font size. Do you have another specific problem?
[11:36] <IceD^> Wizard: if it's trolling, point me to the place where I can change font size :)
[11:37] <IceD^> yes, I asked how to configure my touchpad (and got zero answers ;])
[11:37] <Wizard> System font size?
[11:37] <Lasse-> Well, if you can't change font size from GUI, it's broken.
[11:37] <Lasse-> Considering Ubuntu is meant to be easy-to-use system for non-geek people.
[11:37] <IceD^> Wizard: yes, system font size
[11:37] <bekks> IceD^: We dont know which touchpad you have, so noone can answer your question.
[11:37] <Wizard> IceD^: Unity tweak or something like this may help.  :D
[11:43] <IceD^> synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Vendor 0x2 Product 0x7 - that's only info I'm able to find
[11:43] <bekks> IceD^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[11:43] <cloneG> Lasse- summarizing: delete alien ppas-->sudo apt-get update-->sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-->sudo reboot-->sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[11:44] <Lasse-> I don't think you need to reboot in between.
[11:44] <Lasse-> I meant that after you reinstall Nvidia-drivers, you can reboot to get nvidia-module loaded.
[11:44] <cloneG> Lasse-anything else?
[11:44] <Lasse-> But that looks fine otherwise.
[11:44] <cloneG> Lasse- summarizing: delete alien ppas-->sudo apt-get update-->sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg--->sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-->sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:44] <Lasse-> But I am not claiming it will work, but that's what I would try.
[11:45] <Lasse-> Yeah, go for it.
[11:45] <IceD^> bekks: and? there is NOTHING there but using system / preference / mouse (which doesn't have any usefull options)
[11:45] <TengfeiQi> hello world
[11:45] <bekks> IceD^: Read the link.
[11:45] <IceD^> I did like 2 hours ago
[11:45] <bekks> IceD^: It tells you how to disable your touchpad.
[11:46] <bekks> IceD^: Then you didnt read that part.
[11:46] <IceD^> I don't want to disable it. I want to disable bottom area of it (where buttons are)
[11:47] <jony_easyrider> in Krusader when entering in an archive it gives me the following error: "Error: krarc is disabled." Please help!
[11:47] <IceD^> well, as I see nothing changed last 10 years (last time I used debian-based crap before). crappy software, useless community. sorry & cya
[11:47] <tozen> hi all any ideas to how to convert 195Mb pdf file to ppt? thx
[11:48] <bekks> tozen: Insert it into a PPT in MS Office.
[11:48] <cloneG> Lasse- unticking the ppas in software sources would do or do I need to remove them?
[11:49] <tozen> bekks: thx i'll try
[11:49] <Lasse-> That should do it.
[11:49] <Lasse-> Well, you can remove them anyway.
[11:49] <Lasse-> I mean, unless there's something you actually need, just leave them alone.
[11:51] <cloneG> Lasse- done...
[11:51] <opiate> hey you guys :>
[11:51] <cloneG> Lasse-updating now
[11:51] <Lasse-> opiate: Hi.
[11:51] <opiate> i'm downloading the ubuntu 13.04.iso, how can i run that along-side windows? :>
[11:51] <Lasse-> Well, what do you mean?
[11:51] <Lasse-> If you mean dual booting, naturally yes.
[11:52] <Lasse-> if you want to use it while Windows is running, you can use Virtualbox.
[11:52] <cloneG> Lasse- sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg done
[11:52] <Lasse-> cloneG: You do not need to highlight me for every step, thanks.
[11:52] <opiate> yes, i mean dual booting. how do i get started? :>
[11:52] <Lasse-> opiate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[11:52] <opiate> thx :>
[11:54] <Lasse-> opiate: You should start by backuping all important data you have.
[11:54] <Lasse-> Just in case something bad happens by accident.
[11:54] <jony_easyrider> how can I set my IRC client to log me in with myregistered nick?
[11:54] <Lasse-> What IRC-client you got?
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> jony_easyrider  ask in #freenode
[11:55] <opiate> looks easy
[11:55] <Lasse-> opiate: it is pretty straightforward if you take it slow.
[11:55] <Lasse-> And read everything before going on.
[11:56] <Lasse-> Most people who mess up the installation do not read or do not understand what they just read and still proceed.
[11:56] <opiate> burn iso to disk, insert disk, automatic-partitioning
[11:56] <Lasse-> opiate: If you got an USB-stickmemory, you can use that too.
[11:56] <Lasse-> Using CDs and DVDs is so early 00s. :P
[11:57] <opiate> i don't have a backup of windows 8 but i'm going to take my chances. i'd rather eat a blue-waffle than keep useing this windows 8
[11:57] <opiate> :D i do has a usb! i can choose that in bios also, instead of boot from cd?
[11:57] <compdoc> but blue-waffles sound yummy. are they bad?
[11:58] <Lasse-> opiate: BIOS or separate boot-menu accessible during the initial boot (the same time you can access BIOS).
[11:58] <opiate> my girlfriend makes the bestest blue waffles :>
[11:58] <opiate> ahhh
[11:58] <Lasse-> You can use http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ to easily have a bootable Ubuntu installation stick.
[11:58] <Lasse-> and yes, some motherboards do not show the USB in bios' menu but do show it in separate bootmenu.
[11:58] <opiate> well aren't you just full of information :D
[11:59] <opiate> kk
[11:59] <opiate> when i get this up what irc client should i look into, incase i have more questions?
[11:59] <Lasse-> Whatever you prefer.
[12:00] <Lasse-> X-Chat is at least simple to use.
[12:00] <opiate> does it come with an irc client?
[12:00] <opiate> kk
[12:00] <Lasse-> Although it sucks in my opinion.
[12:00] <Lasse-> I do not remember.
[12:00] <opiate> "simple" :D
[12:00] <Lasse-> Haven't used Ubuntu actively for...5 years I think.
[12:00] <opiate> i'm a recovering drug addict. our motto is "keep is simple" :P
[12:00] <opiate> you're still useing debian though?
[12:00] <Myrtti> suraj_: FloodBots are bots, they can't answer you. Just ask your question here.
[12:01] <Lasse-> opiate: Actually not right now.
[12:01] <Lasse-> Arch Linux.
[12:01] <opiate> if i've never used linux (for the most part) ubuntu-debian is a good choice?
[12:01] <Lasse-> Ubuntu or Mint.
[12:02] <Lasse-> Actually to be honest, I'd probably suggest Mint over Ubuntu personally for beginners.
[12:02] <opiate> another question.. i'm useing a wireless usb adaptor for interweb ;)
[12:02] <Lasse-> It has small things that makes it more beginner friendly in my opinion, like the fact that codecs, Java & Flash are pre-installed.
[12:02] <opiate> i know windows has basicly plug-n-play
[12:02] <Lasse-> Which adapter?
[12:03] <Lasse-> make & model that is.
[12:03] <opiate> will this cause me a problem? it's a belkin wi-fi usb adapter
[12:03] <bitcatcher> kubuntu is. also. a good choice
[12:03] <opiate> n150
[12:03] <Lasse-> I can't say for sure without knowing what chipset it has.
[12:04] <opiate> i have a cd, i read about "wine" and i'm kind of counting on that as a last resort type deal
[12:04] <Lasse-> Actually, Wine wouldn't help with that.
[12:04] <opiate> sadface
[12:04] <opiate> :(*
[12:04] <Lasse-> If you can dig up the exact model-number from somewhere, that would help greatly.
[12:05] <opiate> of the usb stick?
[12:05] <Lasse-> Yes.
[12:05] <Lasse-> The Wifi-adapter I mean.
[12:05] <Lasse-> http://www.belkin.com/us/Products/Networking/Wireless/c/WSNTWLS?q=::categoryPath:/Web/WSNT/WSNTWLS/WSNTWLSUSBA
[12:06] <opiate> n150
[12:06] <Lasse-> There's three N150-adapters listed there.
[12:06] <Lasse-> Can you pinpoint which one it is ?
[12:06] <riddrib> How can sell the items belkin?
[12:07] <Lasse-> Excuse me?
[12:07] <opiate> lol
[12:07] <opiate> yes :>
[12:07] <opiate> http://www.belkin.com/us/F9L1001-Belkin/p/P-F9L1001;jsessionid=09DD868A62973346BF7011865D0BFDB8?q=::categoryPath:/Web/WSNT/WSNTWLS/WSNTWLSUSBA
[12:07] <opiate> the 24 dollar one :x
[12:07] <opiate> best-buy screwed me btw :> paid 40 dollars
[12:07] <riddrib> Yes How can create code to sell the item on internet/.?
[12:08] <Lasse-> Stupid Belkin doesn't list technical details like the chipset used.
[12:08] <Lasse-> I'll try Googling a bit.
[12:08] <zeep> why does installing winetricks bring in wine as a dependency ;o
[12:08] <opiate> yeah i touched on that, it confused me so i gave up
[12:09] <opiate> because when someone is new to debian like me "windows imulator" is a very catchy title
[12:09] <opiate> looks like a fix-all-easy solution :D
[12:09] <Lasse-> opiate: I think it has Ralink RT2870 chipset.
[12:10] <opiate> i see
[12:10] <opiate> my instalation cd says for windows v 7 and 8
[12:10] <opiate> so i shook in my boots some
[12:11] <robotdevil_> is trim enabled in 13.04
[12:11] <Lasse-> opiate: Apparently RT2870 drivers should be built-in.
[12:11] <Lasse-> in Ubuntu.
[12:12] <Lasse-> So unless there's some sort of bug or something else, it should just work.
[12:12] <opiate> ok thank you for your help :) i'm going to do some more research before i continue. you were very informitive Lasse-
[12:12] <opiate> oh
[12:12] <robotdevil_> for ssds
[12:12] <opiate> awesome
[12:12] <opiate> :D awesome
[12:12] <Lasse-> opiate: No problem, hope you'll succeed.
[12:12] <Shogoot> Hi people! I got this xml file http://pastebin.com/CiSCRMgD and my code does this: http://pastebin.com/i2Mkwts1 the first part of echoing OrderNumber i very much in order, but echoing the attribute i cant get to wrok. Anyone that can help me troubleshoot this? :)
[12:12] <opiate> i'll be back :P
[12:13] <Excryption_> Hello. I switched to proprietary drivers on my Dell laptop with Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M, now I can log in (after retstarting lightdm) but Unity won't start. Help please
[12:14] <Smaskis> Using samba 3.6.9 I need to have one share specifically set up to be writable for a lot of users (Which unfortunately belong to different groups), but for one particular user, I need read only. How would I go about doing this? The share currently is [Documents] with writable = yes , create mode = 775 , path = /home/samba/Documents , directory mode = 775
[12:15] <Lasse-> Excryption_: Did you reboot?
[12:15] <Excryption_> Yes I have many times
[12:15] <Lasse-> What does Xorg log say?
[12:16] <Excryption_> I'm fairly new to Ubuntu, how would I get that please?
[12:16] <Lasse-> And did you check that the version of Catalyst you installed supports 7730M?
[12:16] <Excryption_> Yes
[12:16] <Excryption_> I tried this fix - http://askubuntu.com/questions/205112/how-do-i-get-amd-intel-hybrid-graphics-drivers-to-work
[12:16] <Lasse-> Excryption_: Check /var/log/xorg or so, not exactly sure, sorry.
[12:16] <Excryption_> Didn't work though
[12:17] <Lasse-> xorg being a folder.
[12:17] <Excryption_> Ahh got it thank you will do
[12:17] <Lasse-> I haven't had a Radeon in Linux for a long time.
[12:17] <TheAuditor> Hai when I try    /etc/init.d/networking restart I am getting an error saying FILE EXIST , any idea why this happens
[12:18] <Excryption_> Xorg.0.log?
[12:18] <Lasse-> Probably yes.
[12:18] <Excryption_> Should I create a paste for you?
[12:19] <Lasse-> Although for additional help you probably need someone who uses Ubuntu and has Radeon-chip.
[12:19] <Lasse-> Yeah.
[12:19] <Excryption_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5650964/
[12:21] <Lasse-> Excryption_: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Intel.2FATI_Hybrids how about this?
[12:21] <TheAuditor> hello
[12:21] <TheAuditor> Hai when I try    /etc/init.d/networking restart I am getting an error saying FILE EXIST , any idea why this happens
[12:23] <Excryption_> I have not tried that
[12:23] <Lasse-> It's for 13.04.
[12:23] <gordonjcp> TheAuditor: pastebin the command and error verbatim
[12:23] <TheAuditor> ok
[12:24] <Lasse-> TheAuditor: You do not happen to have multiple daemons handling network (even if by accident)?
[12:24] <TheAuditor> Lasse-, I have not installed any
[12:24] <Shogoot> Hi people! I got this xml file http://pastebin.com/CiSCRMgD and my code does this: http://pastebin.com/i2Mkwts1 the first part of echoing OrderNumber i very much in order, but echoing the attribute i cant get to wrok. Anyone that can help me troubleshoot this? :)
[12:24] <varunendra> TheAuditor, why do you need to do that then? By the way, the recommended way is : sudo service networking restart
[12:25] <TheAuditor> I am trying to make a bridge device
[12:25] <TheAuditor> br0
[12:25] <TheAuditor> bridged to eth0
[12:25] <TheAuditor> for virtualisation purposes
[12:26] <Excryption_> Thank you, I'll try it
[12:26] <Excryption_> Not quite sure where to start though
[12:27] <varunendra> TheAuditor, I believe the virtualization platforms (vmware, virtualbox are what I've used) do that automatically.
[12:27] <TheAuditor> varunendra, yes KVM is giving me a headache
[12:28] <TheAuditor> am thinking of shifting to Openvz or virtualbox
[12:28] <varunendra> Never tried that :|
[12:29] <TheAuditor> varunendra, Let me see its aremote server so is a headache to startup again if i loose connection
[12:29] <nrdb__> Hi I have a xen vm playing up... when it boots it is dropping straight into a root shell ... but there is no obvious error causing this... when I exit the shell the boot procedure continues
[12:30] <Excryption> Still no unity
[12:31] <tachyons2> .
[12:35] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[12:37] <riddrib> Hello
[12:38] <Smaskis> Anyone who is good with samba here? :)
[12:38] <CaptainQuirk> hi there, I'm trying to make a simple test app with gjs on ubuntu 12.04
[12:39] <CaptainQuirk> running into some install/compile problem
[12:39] <CaptainQuirk> version issue apparently
[12:39] <fde> mi aiutate a installare i driver lan di una asrock asrock 960gm/u3s3
[12:39] <Pici> !it | fde
[12:40] <Teiubesc> si pentru canal romanesc ?
[12:40] <Pici> !ro
[12:40] <Teiubesc> thank
[12:43] <nrdb__> I have a zen vm dropping strait into a root shell for no apparent reason.... what can I do to stop this?
[12:43] <Jynx> http://downloadmoreram.com/
[12:43] <wdonkey> Hi !
[12:44] <wdonkey> what happens if i try to write a startup disk using dd on a mounted drive ?
[12:45] <hakro88> ciao a tutti
[12:47] <Abjhi> Hello
[12:47] <Abjhi> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 alongside windows by allocating 20 GB from my other drive. Is there any good way to install Windows 7 so that Ubuntu won't be uneffected ?
[12:48] <wdonkey> Abjhi, you'll have to perform a bootrepair
[12:48] <Abjhi> wdonkey: i'm planning to re-install the OSes. what's the best way?
[12:48] <Excryption_> Help please, Unit won't start. I have a Dell with Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M. I changed the additional drivers to proprietary and after reboot, Unity refuses to show up. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5651032/
[12:48] <nrdb__> Abjhi, Windows always assumes it is the only OS, it will overwrite the MBR
[12:49] <Abjhi> nrdb__: what can I do now? i need both os
[12:50] <wdonkey> Abjhi, windows will f_ck your grub up
[12:50] <wdonkey> install windows then ubuntu
[12:50] <varunendra> Abjhi, then create the partitions beforehand using gparted, then install win7 first, ubuntu next. Don't let their partition managers do their stuff, only choose the already created partitions.
[12:50] <wdonkey> or install ubuntu, then windows, then do a boot repair from a live drive
[12:51] <nrdb__> Abjhi, install Windows the Ubuntu
[12:51] <Abjhi> [18:20] <cheeseBreath> You really are stupid
[12:51] <Abjhi> cheeseBreath: if you have something to say, please say that in channel
[12:51] <varunendra> Abjhi, Win first, ubuntu next is the easiest way to go.
[12:52] <varunendra> and if you Really want to 'Use' ubuntu, give it at least 26 GB + swap
[12:52] <cheeseBreath> Ubuntu messes up win 8 boot security
[12:52] <bjoernb1> hi 2 all
[12:52] <raijin> 26Gb of RAM?
[12:52] <raijin> lol
[12:53] <lucas_pires> hello
[12:53] <Abjhi> thanks
[12:53] <raijin> cheeseBreath: use wubi?
[12:53] <bjoernb1> #ardour
[12:53] <cheeseBreath> RI
[12:54] <cheeseBreath> raijin: wubi if you dont want speed
[12:54] <lucas_pires> somebody can help me? I've installed the 13.04 and my sound driver is not working. Dell Inspiron 7520
[12:55] <cheeseBreath> Be great if they built linux that native used ntfs
[12:55] <nrdb__> cheeseBreath, that would be a really big step backwards.
[12:56] <muh2000> hi all
[12:57] <nrdb__> I have a zen vm dropping strait into a root shell for no apparent reason.... how do I find out why... there is no obvious reason ether display, or logged... what can I do to stop this?
[12:57] <muh2000> putty sometimes fails to load. :( only a dead process remails. any suggestions?
[12:58] <Chris_W_> muh?
[13:03] <PsynoKhi0> greetings, is there anyway I can downgrade the X Server on 12.04.2 64 bit installed in UEFI mode?
[13:04] <fde> ho un problema con la scheda di rete
[13:04] <PsynoKhi0> uh hang on, I googled my question, there might be a PPA available >.<
[13:05] <fde> #ubuntu it
[13:06] <fde> mi date il canale ita
[13:07] <fde> oh
[13:07] <bambam1> What kind of hardware is Ubuntu most suitable for and what's the definition of "old" hardware now-a-days?  My specs: (CPU: Intel Pentium 4 630 Prescott 3.0GHz, RAM: 3.5 GB DDR2 @ 533 MHz, GPU: Nvidia GT 610, SATA II HDD)
[13:07] <tarzeau_> bambam1: old hardware is > 5 years old
[13:08] <wdonkey> bambam1, your system is alright
[13:09] <bambam1> wdonkey tarzeau_ what would you put on that machine if it were yours? A lighter derivative of 'Bu, or will Ubuntu work fine? I'd rather eliminate as much lag as possible and I don't mind a lightweight desktop environment
[13:10] <kostkon> bambam1, ubuntu will work just fine obviously
[13:10] <Chris_W_> anyone know how to set fstab to load after network initialization?
[13:10] <wdonkey> bambam1, i have a similar system, its working just fine with the regular ubuntu. you'll see its pretty lightweight in its full version compared to other OS (win/mac)
[13:12] <bambam1> kostkon: I tried Linux Mint Cinnamon which is just straight Ubuntu with a forked Gnome 3 DE to look like Gnome 2 but it seemed a bit laggy (I turned off desktop effects, not that my GPU could not handle it, but still)
[13:12] <bambam1> Maybe it was just buggy
[13:13] <bambam1> A lot of things are still a bit experimental
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> !requirements | bambam1
[13:13] <kostkon> bambam1, i dont know about gnome shell, but it's a 3Ghz pc with an nvidia card. it shoudl be fine. just run the live cd and see how well it fares
[13:13] <spoown> hello to all
[13:13] <bambam1> wdonkey kostkon I hear the latest Ubuntu has a lot of performance tweaks, what exactly is making it run faster?
[13:14] <spoown> is there any way to fix a ntfs external disk ? I accidentaly "delete" a lot of things...
[13:14] <spoown> already tried with ntfsfix but he advice me to use chkdsk
[13:15] <kostkon> bambam1, improvements like less ram usage, better compiz performance
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> bambam1  http://www.hecticgeek.com/2013/04/performance-ubuntu-13-04-review/
[13:16] <bambam1> MonkeyDust: Thanks!
[13:17] <PsynoKhi0> spoown: I googled your question and got a youtube tutorial on how to use TestDisk for that
[13:17] <netlar> Everytime I boot it takes almost 3 min.  Not sure what is happening.  Here is the boot log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5651107/  Nothing looks weird to me.
[13:17] <bambam1> MonkeyDust: Impressive
[13:18] <frankbro> I have this weird problem, whenever I move the mouse, theres some glitchy sound coming out of the speakers.
[13:18] <netlar> Is there some other place I should be looking for diagnosing the problem?
[13:18] <spoown> PsynoKhi0, will take a look at it , thanks...
[13:18] <PsynoKhi0> np
[13:23] <kingfisher64> has anyone a solid solution for being able to use creative suite within ubuntu. I have cs3 (legally). I've examined wine and it does not install. Virtualbox requires a lightweight OS, which win7 doens't cut and xp lite doesn't install and is not updated. I really want to make the transition to ubuntu from windoze. Any ideas appreciated and will be looked into.
[13:24] <brainwash> netlar, use bootchart for a visual analysis and check the output of dmesg for long delays during boot
[13:24] <bekks> kingfisher64: You already examined all possible solutions.
[13:24] <kingfisher64> should also say I use nearly all open source software but gimp & inkscape unfortunatly don't cut it
[13:24] <adamk> I actually use CS3 in an XP Pro VM for work.
[13:24] <netlar> brainwash: thanks
[13:24] <betrayd> and purchasing cs3 is saying i'm making a commitment
[13:24] <betrayd> to windows
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> kingfisher64  you tried everything and nothing works, looks like you're out of luck
[13:25] <kingfisher64> yeah, didn't realise that all those years ago betrayd - was young and naive
[13:25] <eltigre> Hey, I think I need some clarification on the ~/bin folder
[13:25] <betrayd> and that SW is too leading edge
[13:25] <eltigre> on my desktop I can use binaries in that path, and on a server install I can't
[13:25] <betrayd> kingfisher64:  ^
[13:26] <Excryption> I laugh when people consider Gimp to be an alternative to Photoshop. Don't think they realise just how powerful Photoshop is
[13:26] <eltigre> any idea what is going wrong there?
[13:26] <bekks> eltigre: Then the PATH variable on the server is different from your desktop.
[13:26] <eltigre> hm hm
[13:26] <th0r> eltigre: that folder is for scripts the individual user writes. It isn't part of the path, so I link my scripts to /usr/local/bin so I can call them easily
[13:26] <kingfisher64> adamk what's the performance like if you dont' mind me asking.
[13:27] <PsynoKhi0> Excryption: maybe "an alternative for 80% of the photoshop userbase"? ;)
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> Excryption  gimp is similar to paintshop, not to photoshop - i've used paintshop for years
[13:27] <adamk> kingfisher64: Pretty good. Certainly works for my needs.  I rarely run more than just one of the CS programs at a time, though.
[13:27] <kingfisher64> Excryption - i love photoshop. Personally think it's the single best graphics package ever greated.
[13:28] <Excryption> Paintshop is no Photoshop.
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> Excryption  true
[13:28] <eltigre> th0r, bekks thank you, I'm probably going to link the scripts from /usr/local/bin...
[13:28] <Excryption> I'm still trying to get my Unity to start. After changing to proprietary drivers, it just won't start.
[13:28] <bekks> eltigre: Dont do it that way. Configure the PATH variable to fit your needs.
[13:29] <eltigre> bekks, ok
[13:29] <kingfisher64> i wouldn't be either adamk. It's only creative suite and rosetta stone I use. I'll give this a go.
[13:29] <jhutchins_wk> Excryption: Perhaps there are people who know the gimp better than you do and who are able to do more of what photoshop does with it.
[13:29] <PsynoKhi0> Excryption: what card and what ubuntu version?
[13:29] <betrayd> Excryption: do youknow for sure it's using  prop. drivers
[13:29] <kingfisher64> I own legally xp, however it's been activated/reinstalled so many times that now the key doesn't work. V annoying as nlite created a nice little lightweight version that would be superb
[13:30] <adamk> kingfisher64: You should still be able to activate it over the phone, I would think.
[13:30] <kingfisher64> im going to have to phone the evildoers microsoft - wish me luck!
[13:30] <mintux> i have ntfs partition that when i mount it i don't see nothing and in terminal when i got ls i get this error : $ ls
[13:30] <Excryption> Ubuntu 13.04. Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M. I'm using the correct drivers, even switched to iGPU still no luck.
[13:30] <mintux>  ls: cannot access $RECYCLE.BIN: Input/output error   (i removed this folder ago) so what should i do?
[13:30] <jhutchins_wk> XP shouldn't require phone activation at all, but that's a matter for ##windows not #ubuntu
[13:31] <betrayd> gl , get it done kingfisher64
[13:31] <Excryption> I have managed to switch to default AMD drivers in Addtional Drivers section of Settings, still nothing.
[13:31] <ilpuccio> is there a package similar to Environment Modules Project ?
[13:32] <kingfisher64> jhutchins, yeah it's in the context of installing it in a virtualmachine and switching permentantly to ubuntu though, so maybe I can be forgiven for mentioning it. :)
[13:32] <bekks> ilpuccio: Whats that "Environment Modules Project"?
[13:32] <kingfisher64> i'll try that first then adamk - thank you :)
[13:33] <ilpuccio> bekks, a quick way to switch a bunch on environment variable, lets say you want to maintain different version of a same software but you want to keep your environment consistent
[13:33] <ilpuccio> bekks, http://modules.sourceforge.net/
[13:33] <jony_easyrider> Krusader tells me when entering in an archive that "krarc is disabled". Please help!
[13:33] <bekks> ilpuccio: Than can be easily done by setting an alias in your shell.
[13:34] <ilpuccio> nasa too complex if you have many many software
[13:34] <bekks> ilpuccio: Far more easy then using additional software to manage additional software. :)
[13:34] <ilpuccio> bekks, you know RVM  ?
[13:35] <bekks> ilpuccio: Never heard of it.
[13:36] <ilpuccio> bekks, btw the package is in 12 devel but my servers are all 11.10
[13:36] <bekks> ilpuccio: 11.10 isnt supported anymore.
[13:36] <bekks> OT is it?
[13:36] <bekks> !eolupgrades > bekks
[13:37] <bekks> Yeah, 11.10 is out of support :)
[13:40] <ilpuccio> bekks, yeah I know but that's it :) I'll upgrade servers during the summer in the mean time I'll install the software from scratch
[13:41] <DrMon> So, I'm writing an application that dynamically links to libssl.so - buuut there's only a libssl.so.4
[13:41] <DrMon> Shouldn't there be a libssl.so? softlinked to libssl.so.4?
[13:41] <agwblack> Hi all. There is a pretty bad bug in the version of clang that ships with Ubuntu 13.04. It has been fixed upstream. How should I go about trying to get this fix as an update in Ubuntu 13.04?
[13:41] <bekks> ilpuccio: You are running servers with unsupported software? Thats not cool. :)
[13:41] <jrib> agwblack: file a bug if it doesn't already exist (also check out « /msg ubottu !sru » and ask for help in #ubuntu-bugs)
[13:42] <agwblack> jrib: thanks!
[13:43] <ilpuccio> bekks, ahahah I know but let's say that is not my main job, I'm just helping my IT… if they are working in some way I'm happy -_-'
[13:43] <Fedor> Hi trying to install 12.04 LTS 64bit on a A8n-sli premium using an AMD 64 proccessor and nvidia 6800 GT video card.  The Installation goes fine, but on reboot it says "read error" (won't boot into the OS), I then attempted to just boot/run from the USB and after i click "try ubuntu" it says GPU lockup and something about an idle channel.  So anyone have any ideas how to get this installed/working?
[13:46] <raven> how to split a system lvm to a system and home lvm?
[13:47] <bekks> raven: Back it up, then resize (shrink) your LV, VG, PV, and create a new PV, VG, LV.
[13:49] <jony_easyrider> I wanna cry, that the only rich-of-features TotalCommander-like software, the Krusader won't let me to browse the archives :(((((((
[13:50] <bekks> jony_easyrider: And why...?
[13:50] <pulsoste> I found a package only available for raring, how can I install it in quantal?
[13:50] <jony_easyrider> bekks, because for me it's critical that function
[13:51] <bekks> jony_easyrider: And we have to guess error messages, etc.?
[13:51] <pulsoste> This is the package - source/raring/stringencoders
[13:51] <jony_easyrider> bekks, Error: krarc is disabled
[13:51] <jony_easyrider> in ubuntu 12.04 it worked correctly, now in 13.04 won't
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> pulsoste  try !backports
[13:52] <bekks> jony_easyrider: 10s of searching gave me this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krusader/+bug/1065110
[13:53] <pulsoste> MonkeyDust: sorry, could you please indicate the URL I should search for? Is it raring backports?
[13:53] <jony_easyrider> bekks, if you look at the end of the reply list, you can show my posts too (user: dobraijonathan)
[13:54] <bekks> jony_easyrider: Then you just have to wait for an answer there.
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !backports | pulsoste
[13:54] <jony_easyrider> bekks, I will do that, or I will downgrade to 12.04
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> pulsoste  it looks you can only use it for newer versions of existing programs, not for what you want
[13:55] <pulsoste> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I will try to build it from source. I was getting make errors, so tried to install debian package
[14:06] <aaron_> can somebody tell me what this command does?
[14:06] <aaron_> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=&amp;quot;quiet splash i915.i915_enable_rc6=1&amp;quot;
[14:07] <bekks> aaron_: It will cause an error, due to those & there.
[14:07] <aaron_> bekks, yeah i noticed that i cant run it how can i fix it?
[14:08] <bekks> aaron_: Set it like: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.i915_enable_rc6=1"
[14:09] <ctxmen> googlehupf:
[14:10] <Fedor> thanks guys you have been most helpful, and worth your weight in peanuts
[14:11] <amanthakur> HI guys, can anyone tell me how can i load the bootloader. My machine cirectly boot the ubuntu 12.04 i wanted the bootloader screen to open up for selecting the OS and recorvery mode
[14:11] <bekks> amanthakur: Just press esc before Ubuntu boots.
[14:11] <bekks> !grub2 | amanthakur
[14:12] <amanthakur> bekks, tried that but it didn't worked
[14:12] <zeep> set the timeout to something like 5 seconds or something
[14:13] <amanthakur> zeep, how and where?
[14:14] <bonzar> hi
[14:14] <bekks> amanthakur: Thats described in that article.
[14:14] <amanthakur> hi bonzar
[14:14] <bonzar> amanthakur
[14:14] <UbuntuNewbie> Hello everyone. I have a laptop with Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7xxx GPU. I switched from the default graphics to a proprietary version and after reboot, Unity won't boot. I can log in just fine and everything, all I get is a desktop with wallpaper and no Unity.
[14:14] <amanthakur> bonzar, yes
[14:14] <zeep> amanthakur, check /etc/default/grub
[14:14] <amanthakur> zeep, ok
[14:14] <zeep> amanthakur, there's an entry for GRUB_TIMEOUT
[14:14] <zeep> amanthakur, then update-grub
[14:15] <A1Recon> Hi I installed the drivers for ATI Radeon 4350 GPU using these instructions.... http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide But I used the 13.1 version which I had downloaded already. I installed that perfectly. And restarted.  I lost my 1920x1080 resolution. The launcher bar at the left is gone. Dark bands on all sides (overscan/underscan). Ctrl-Alt-T works sparingly.
[14:15] <A1Recon> Please help!!
[14:15] <bekks> A1Recon: Help for 13.10 can be found in #ubuntu+1
[14:16] <zeep> A1Recon,  you need to set the overscan fix directly. amdcccle doesn't save it for some reason
[14:16] <zeep> *underscan
[14:16] <zeep> A1Recon,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#HDTV_underscan
[14:16] <UbuntuNewbie> Any help please?
[14:16] <zeep> A1Recon,  on nvm it's 13.10. i had issues with unity loading as well. probably have to wait for a fix
[14:18] <emif-> Hi, i just upgraded from 12 to 13. but it seems that my sound card is not recognized by my system, what can i do
[14:20] <zetheroo> I cannot get Desktop Sharing to work!
[14:20] <BluesKaj_> emif-, what soundchip , you can find it in alsamixer , on the top left
[14:20] <A1Recon> bekks: zeep: Any ideas how I can get back the Unity. I am in a very very bad situation because all my ubuntu desktop has is the stock wallpaper. (I am currently writing this from a Win7 PC) BTW the Ctrl-Alt-F1 terminal is working fine!!
[14:20] <zeep> A1Recon, you can revert to using the open source driver
[14:20] <lasers> emif-: Be that black guy who makes all those sound effects himself in Police Academy? No, try !alsa or !pulse (depending on your setup).
[14:20] <bekks> A1Recon: This channel does not support 13.10 - you can get support in #ubuntu+1
[14:21] <A1Recon> bekks: So you mean to say that i need to repost this ??
[14:21] <UbuntuNewbie> All I have is a desktop with wallpaper and no Unity.
[14:21] <bekks> A1Recon: Yes. In a different channel-
[14:22] <A1Recon> bekks: Awesome!!YAY!! /sarcasm No offense.
[14:22] <zeep> UbuntuNewbie, did you run 'aticonfig --initial' after installing the proprietary ati drivers?
[14:22] <UbuntuNewbie> Yup I did
[14:23] <emif-> BluesKaj_ and lasers heres a screen shot, http://picpaste.com/afc4a15f009fde84dd6c11476dc78bbb.png
[14:23] <Pici> A1Recon: Are you sure you're running Ubuntu 13.10?
[14:23] <emif-> the volume control on top right, i can click it but cant increase/decrease the volume
[14:24] <LFS> I've installed GStreamer, Vlc and Dragonplayer but my Ubuntu is still not able to play wmv files ... any suggestion?
[14:24] <SonikkuAmerica> A1Recon: If so, /join #ubuntu+1
[14:24] <UbuntuNewbie> I thought 13.10 hasn't even begun Alpha yet
[14:24] <SonikkuAmerica> I didn't think so either
[14:24] <cfhowlett> UbuntuNewbie, true
[14:24] <user90930> Where can I get a video driver for Intel 915GM/GMS/910GML?    I corrupted my graphics by installing the wrong drivers.
[14:24] <histo> UbuntuNewbie: It begins as soon as 13.04 was released. They may not call it "alpha" but it's there.
[14:25] <UbuntuNewbie> Ahh, I see.
[14:25] <lasers> emif-: Try this factoid...
[14:25] <lasers> !alsa | emif-
[14:25] <A1Recon> Pici: bekks: zeep: Oh heel I have Raring Ringtail 13.04
[14:25] <histo> user90930: drivers are loaded by default for that card
[14:25] <zeep> LFS, if vlc can't play the file, something is wrong with the file?
[14:25] <zeep> vlc can play everything
[14:25] <UbuntuNewbie> Any idea how to get Unity back please?
[14:25] <UbuntuNewbie> I've been using the terminal to do everything.
[14:25] <SonikkuAmerica> UbuntuNewbie: [ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ]?
[14:25] <histo> UbuntuNewbie: switch the drivers back
[14:26] <LFS> I think nothing is wrong with the files as I can play them on other windows machine
[14:26] <histo> UbuntuNewbie: and restart lightdm
[14:26] <user90930> histo..I installed a non-repo driver and now my resolution is stuck on 1024x768 and 3D is terrible.. I need to restore the original driver.
[14:26] <UbuntuNewbie> I have switched it back
[14:26] <UbuntuNewbie> I have done all that
[14:26] <emif-> lasers, it says: bash: !alsa: event not found
[14:26] <zeep> LFS, vlc doesn't need any extra codecs. it should be able to play it on its own
[14:26] <histo> user90930: Uninstall the non-repo driver first and then boot
[14:26] <SonikkuAmerica> UbuntuNewbie: [ sudo stop lightdm ; sudo start lightdm ]
[14:26] <bekks> UbuntuNewbie: Then you have to investigate the logs to see whats wrong.
[14:26] <UbuntuNewbie> Restarted lightdm, restored drivers, aticonfig initial etc nothing works
[14:26] <zeep> LFS, as to why it's not, i  don't know :/ sory
[14:27] <user90930> histo:  I compiled the non-repo from source.  I tried to "make uninstall" but didn't get rid of it.  Not sure how to uninstall it.
[14:27] <UbuntuNewbie> Where can I find the logs please?
[14:27] <LFS> this is the output of trying to play wmv from CLI http://pastebin.com/q2T0ryRS
[14:27] <zeep> UbuntuNewbie, /var/log
[14:27] <UbuntuNewbie> thank you
[14:27] <zeep> also, ~/.xsession-errors
[14:28] <emif-> lasers, http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-05-10_17_25_05-sG6JSGMY.png
[14:28] <UbuntuNewbie> okay I will do the lightdm start/stop and come back with the results
[14:28] <SonikkuAmerica> LFS: Why are you trying to do it from CLI?
[14:28] <BluesKaj_> emif-, sorry that screenshot is unreadable here , just open alsamixer in the console and tell us what chip it uses , it shows it on the top left
[14:28] <gyre007> is there a way how I can check priority of certain package ?
[14:28] <gyre007> I mean priority of the repo
[14:29] <gyre007> using some apt-get command line trickery
[14:29] <LFS> SonikkuAmerica: trying to see the errors
[14:29] <LFS> x-asf-unknown
[14:29] <allballs> Good morning. I've got a bit of a problem this morning. Booted from ubuntu 13.04 desktop installer on a usb stick, and I'm wondering where rescue mode option is? used to be there for 12.04 (using alternate .iso) -- How to rescue a system w/13.04 installer?
[14:29] <zeep> is ubuntu ever going to systemd?
[14:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh. Right now it looks like you need more GStreamer plugins.
[14:29] <emif-> Card: HDA Intel PCH - Chip: Intel CougarPoint HDMI lasers
[14:29] <LFS> I've installed all available GStreamer but it's still not showing the video ,, but I can hear the voice
[14:30] <emif-> But on ubuntu 12 it was running just fine
[14:30] <zeep> LFS, did you try opening it with the default video player ? it should prompt a list for the proper codecs
[14:30] <SonikkuAmerica> allballs: What do you mean "Rescue mode" in regard to your live media? Can't you hold down the left SHIFT key during a normal boot and go to recovery mode?
[14:30] <lasers> emif-: Try running 'alsamixer' in the terminal.
[14:30] <SonikkuAmerica> allballs: (It's in "Advanced options for Ubuntu")
[14:31] <allballs> SonikkuAmerica: problem is that / is on a seemingly borked btrfs drive.
[14:31] <emif-> i did that lasers
[14:31] <lasers> emif-: (press F1 to read the HELP so you know how to toggle things)
[14:31] <BluesKaj_> emif-, in the console , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , there will be no output if the driver/module loads properly ,  you may need to reboot
[14:31] <allballs> I'm trying to get the box booted, from the stick, without touching the disk.
[14:31] <SonikkuAmerica> allballs: You may need to chroot into it with your live media then./
[14:31] <emif-> ok thanks lasers  and BluesKaj_
[14:31] <lasers> emif-: Take screenshot of the alsamixer? Looking for MM (Mute)
[14:32] <aaron_> i have a problem to switch between the hybrid gpu here is my info http://pastebin.com/Nyd1XTZ3
[14:32] <emif-> here lasers http://picpaste.com/70e1f039fa9b0cf4aa48034d72e177f1.png
[14:32] <allballs> SonikkuAmerica: yeah. that'd be great, if I could get to a shell from the USB stick. 13.04 installer .iso doesn't seem to have that menu opt available any longer.
[14:32] <emif-> lasers, http://picpaste.com/70e1f039fa9b0cf4aa48034d72e177f1.png
[14:33] <zeep> doesn't ubuntu use pulse ?
[14:33] <SonikkuAmerica> allballs: Here's a basic guide to chrooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[14:33] <padhu> Ubuntians, How can i create video DVD from only VOB file?
[14:33] <SonikkuAmerica> zeep: Except for Lubuntu, yes.
[14:35] <lasers> emif-: It looks okay. Erm. :|
[14:35] <emif-> but i cant run pulseaudio
[14:35] <emif-> its giving me an error
[14:35] <emif-> am reinstallin it
[14:35] <A1Recon> Can I get more help by using "Advanced options for Ubuntu" while booting?
[14:35] <lasers> emif-: How old is this installation?
[14:36] <emif-> fresh.
[14:36] <emif-> like an hour ago.
[14:36] <emif-> i had ubuntu 12 but an hour ago i upgraded to 13
[14:36] <zeep> emif-, what's the error with pulse?
[14:36] <lasers> emif-: Okay. try purging all pulse packages and reboot. See if that help.
[14:36] <A1Recon> How do I get the logs?
[14:37] <lasers> A1Recon: logs for...? It might be in /var/log/
[14:38] <shazzr> I'm trying to set up Openbox on an Asus EEE Box. Works fine except that the screen rotates 90 degrees CCW when I log in. Have to run xrandr -o normal from a terminal window to...well...get my head straight. What cand I do to automate this command?
[14:38] <zeep> shazzr, add it to ~/.config/openbox/autostart
[14:38] <A1Recon> Zeep: how do I get the logs seeing that my Unity is gone?
[14:38] <shazzr> zeep: I tried. I won't run. But I put skype and tint2 in that file as well, and they both start.
[14:39] <zeep> shazzr, did you try making it the first command ?
[14:39] <aaron_> i have a problem to switch between the hybrid gpu here is my info http://pastebin.com/Nyd1XTZ3
[14:39] <A1Recon> Zeep: I went to terminal typed /var/log/ but its a directory....
[14:39] <zeep> A1Recon,  not sure, i'm new to unity and dont know where they put th elogs
[14:39] <zeep> A1Recon,  check the Xorg log and maybe ~/.xession-errors
[14:40] <SonikkuAmerica> A1Recon: You may wish to [ ls /var/log/ ] and then [ cat $LOGFILE | more ] where $LOGFILE is the log you want to view.
[14:40] <UbuntuNewbie> Back :-) - Where can in /var/log/ can I can the log after stopping/starting lightdm please?
[14:40] <SonikkuAmerica> A1Recon: *Or rather [ cd ] into /var/log/ and [ ls ] inside it
[14:41] <emif-> lasers, its saying: Establishing connection for pulseaudio.. please wait
[14:41] <emif-> and still waiting
[14:41] <emif-> been like 3 mins
[14:41] <UbuntuNewbie> Do you need the Xorg.0.log file?
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> UbuntuNewbie: [ cd /var/log/lightdm/ ]
[14:41] <UbuntuNewbie> Ahh okay
[14:42] <skyjumper> anyone know why the Additional Drivers list would go empty after choosing to install the nvidia blob?
[14:42] <SonikkuAmerica> skyjumper: If it was listed before, no clue.
[14:42] <lasers> emif-: I'm the one who suggested that you purge all pulseaudio packages. Is this message for somebody else?
[14:43] <UbuntuNewbie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5651339/ - here is the log file
[14:43] <zeep> emif-, how did you start pulse?
[14:43] <emif-> i did that in terminal and it gave me pulseaudio dialog
[14:43] <zeep> did what?
[14:43] <A1Recon> SonikkuAmerica: My Unity is gone after I tried to install ATI drivers. I get the list of files under it but what do I revert abck to my old good working setting. I mean before I installed the ATI drivers....
[14:43] <BluesKaj_> lasers, why purge pulse . he won't have any webaudio without it
[14:43] <lasers> shazzr: Check to see if you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- If that exists, look inside. Something inside there might cause your rotation.
[14:44] <emif-> pavuconrol
[14:44] <BluesKaj_> emif-, you might have to install this patch for intel to hdmi until ubuntu upgrades to the latest kernel , https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily
[14:44] <SonikkuAmerica> A1Recon: How were they installed (the AMD drivers)?
[14:44] <zeep> A1Recon, if you want to revert, apt-get purge fglrx,  and reboot
[14:45] <emif-> while installing pulse it gave these errors http://pastebin.com/DBP0f6Bz
[14:45] <aaron_> i have a problem to switch between the hybrid gpu here is my info http://pastebin.com/Nyd1XTZ3
[14:45] <zeep> emif-, what do you mean? pulse is already installed with ubuntu
[14:45] <lasers> BluesKaj_: It's an suggestion. Will my solution work? We don't know. Will your solution work too? We don't know. We only can try and see the result.
[14:46] <zeep> emif-, do 'pulseaudio --kill' and then 'pulseaudio --start', and what happens?
[14:46] <emif-> it is, but i reinstalled it again
[14:46] <BluesKaj_> lasers, well removing pulseaudio won't help much
[14:46] <A1Recon> Zeep: I think I need to use sudo before that...and I just did that!!
[14:46] <zeep> yeah he'll prob need to sudo
[14:47] <emif-> W: [pulseaudio] authkey.c: Failed to open cookie file '/home/mycomputer/.config/pulse/cookie': No such file or directory
[14:47] <emif-> W: [pulseaudio] authkey.c: Failed to load authorization key '/home/mycomputer.config/pulse/cookie': No such file or directory
[14:47] <A1Recon> Zeep: is there any command to reboot from the Terminal?
[14:47] <zeep> A1Recon, sudo reboot
[14:47] <lasers> A1Recon: "sudo reboot"
[14:47] <emif-> it gave these ^^ zeep
[14:48] <SonikkuAmerica> (Speaking of the cookie file, I need to see if there are any in the house. :))\
[14:48] <BluesKaj_> ok nm, emif- , too many cooks , I'll back off til you get pulseaudio sorted out
[14:49] <emif-> ok thanks
[14:49] <zeep> emif-, delete ~/..pulse-cookie and ~/.config/pulse
[14:49] <UbuntuNewbie> Going to reboot and try to find a solution
[14:49] <shazzr> lasers: I checked the file. Option  "RandRRotation" "on". Tried to turn it to "off" and did a reboot. I still rotated. :|
[14:51] <A1Recon> Zeep: my 1920x1080 res is back but my Unity is not .....Is there any way to check whether the drivers were completely installed or not?
[14:51] <zeep> A1Recon, lsmod | grep fglrx
[14:51] <lasers> shazzr: Want to share the file? :)
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !list
[14:52] <zeep> A1Recon, if it's empty, it was removed, and you're using the open source driver
[14:52] <emif-> bbl, reboot
[14:53] <lasers> !paste | shazzr
[14:53] <zeep> shazzr, maybe it's a race condition. add the xrander call with a timeout before it in the autostart
[14:53] <lasers> zeep: I think it's more of DISPLAY issue.
[14:53] <A1Recon> Zeep: Abyway that I can get my launcher back. You know the line of icons at the left...
[14:53] <zeep> A1Recon, does ctrl+shift+t bring up a terminal?
[14:54] <A1Recon> Zeep: it does
[14:54] <zeep> A1Recon, try unity --replace
[14:54] <zeep> lasers, possibly, i'm not familiar with xrandr ;p
[14:54] <shazzr> lasers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5651371/
[14:54] <shazzr> zeep: I thought of that, but don't know how to set a delay in the autostart file....
[14:55] <zetheroo> does the Desktop Sharing feature in Ubuntu work with RDP or VNC ?
[14:55] <zeep> shazzr, sleep N (seconds)
[14:55] <lasers> shazzr: That can't be everything. :o
[14:55] <shazzr> lasers: Yes. It is.
[14:55] <zeep> zetheroo, there's an option for both
[14:55] <A1Recon> Zeep:bad command
[14:56] <zeep> zetheroo, oh nvm, you said desktop sharing not remote viewer
[14:56] <zetheroo> zeep: yeah ... ;)
[14:57] <A1Recon> Zeep: I want the opposite of Unity --replace command now!
[14:58] <lasers> shazzr: Erm. Try moving that file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup and restart. If your rotation still occur, ah... Screw it. Use DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -o normal in your autostart file. :|
[14:58] <Avt_> guys my webcam works but tinychat wont see it
[14:59] <Avt_> I can click ok broadcast and click acept
[14:59] <Avt_> but next part says cant find cam
[14:59] <Avt_> any ideas?
[14:59] <A1Recon> Zeep: the windows used to have the X window and curved edges. Well the curved edges are gone now and the x minimize maximize buttons are gone
[14:59] <shazzr> lasers: I did put that line in my autostart file, and It didn't do any difference. Trying removing the xorg.conf file instead....
[15:00] <Avt_> is there an ap that lets me broadcast on tinychat?
[15:00] <zeep> what was the last thing someone msged me? i accidentally closed xchat ;o
[15:00] <A1Recon> Can someone give me the opposite of Unity --replace command ?
[15:00] <zeep> it's unity, not Unity
[15:00] <lasers> shazzr: Check for ~/.nvidia*rc file -- and possibly /root/.nvidia*rc -- Did you try it with DISPLAY=:0 too? (That bit is probably why the line didn't work in first place. It don't know what DISPLAY you're talking about).
[15:00] <Avt_> seperation
[15:01] <zeep> A1Recon,  do which unity
[15:01] <Avt_> oh command i dunno lol
[15:01] <Avt_> thought you meant grammer 0_o
[15:01] <zeep> A1Recon, what's the output of 'which unity'
[15:01] <A1Recon> Zeep: I know its unity... I typed in that coomad unity --replace and the windows look all odd
[15:01] <lasers> zeep: 09:59:16 <A1Recon> Zeep: the windows used to have the X window and curved edges. Well the │                                                                                curved edges are gone now and the x minimize maximize buttons are gone
[15:02] <zeep> thanks lasers
[15:02] <Avt_> no :O
[15:02] <Avt_> those burn stuff
[15:02] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[15:02] <zeep> A1Recon, but did the unity bar load? was it just missing the title bars?
[15:03] <zeep> just put them on sharks
[15:03] <zeep> no harm done ;p
[15:03] <shazzr> lasers: Nope. No result with that one either. Shouldn't there be some kind of a log file for the boot process or something?
[15:03] <A1Recon> Zeep: the terminal is missing the titlebar and the unity launcher did not load.
[15:04] <zeep> might be an issue with compiz
[15:05] <Amr-Fahmy> Hiii all
[15:05] <zeep> A1Recon,  can you launch the compiz manager?
[15:05] <zeep> A1Recon, see if the unity plugin is checked
[15:05] <Amr-Fahmy> Hiii all I need to create new Man page in ubuntu kan anyone tell me how to do this ??
[15:06] <lasers> shazzr: Important logs generally goes in /var/log -- but meh. Oh. Do you have/use ~/.xinitrc (and/or) ~/.xsession? Technically, it'd be the good place to put xrandr -o normal bit in. If you use lightdm, I believe you want ~/.Xsession
[15:06] <A1Recon> Zeep: do you know how to revert the changes made by unity --replace ?
[15:06] <A1Recon> Zeep: how do I launch the compiz manager?
[15:06] <zeep> A1Recon,  you can restart lightdm and relogin, but it will log you out of the current session
[15:07] <Amr-Fahmy> I have created a new command and I need to create a new man page for this command can anyone tell me how to do this ??
[15:07] <zeep> A1Recon, 'ccsm'
[15:07] <shazzr> lasers: I have none of the above.
[15:08] <lasers> Amr-Fahmy: New Command? Did you make a script and plop it in your local bi
[15:08] <A1Recon> Terminal won't take my command zeep
[15:08] <Creep_kid> hi all
[15:08] <Amr-Fahmy> yes
[15:08] <lasers> ...bin*
[15:08] <zeep> A1Recon, you'll need to install it. it doesn't come installed by default
[15:08] <Amr-Fahmy> I need only to create the man page to describe this command
[15:08] <Amr-Fahmy> how to do this ??
[15:08] <zeep> A1Recon, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:09] <lasers> Amr-Fahmy: Add one more if statement. If no parameters are given, use "echo Usage: $FUNCNAME: this stffs will..."
[15:09] <zeep> lol
[15:09] <Creep_kid> #fedora
[15:09] <Amr-Fahmy> I don't understand you
[15:09] <A1Recon> Commands ccsm and do not work in the usual terminal so I am using the ctrl-alt-f1 terminal. Is there any problem?
[15:10] <lienomore> I'm having trouble mounting my dvd-rw, I get an error message : "wrong fs type bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0
[15:10] <zeep> A1Recon,  no, but you'll need to launch it with DISPLAY=0.0 /usr/bin/ccsm from tty1
[15:10] <lienomore> the dvd-rw is supposed to be working similar to a flash drive. It can delete and add new files
[15:11] <lasers> Amr-Fahmy: You don't want a manual for one single command. Let's say you made "cp-name-only" and you ran "cp-name-only" without filename(s). Have it print out "Usage: cp-name-only <first-file> <second-file>" and new few lines explaining what this command does"
[15:11] <Creep_kid> how can I getout from here?
[15:11] <A1Recon> Zeep: installing compiz using tty1
[15:12] <Creep_kid> hello
[15:12] <lasers> Creep_kid: /part ; /quit ; /exit
[15:12] <lienomore> I'm having trouble mounting my dvd-rw, I get an error message : "wrong fs type bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0
[15:12] <Creep_kid> thanku
[15:12] <Amr-Fahmy> lasers: thank you but what if I have did C program not a command in the terminal how to create the man page to describe this program ?
[15:12] <lienomore> I'm having trouble mounting my dvd-rw, I get an error message : "wrong fs type bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0
[15:12] <zeep> Amr-Fahmy, http://askubuntu.com/questions/42923/how-to-create-a-manpage
[15:12] <wwwdotcom> How do i play youtube live videos in vlc player on ubuntu? Browsers flash seems to be resource intensive on ubuntu and video and not playing smoothly.
[15:13] <zeep> wwwdotcom, get the video url, paste it in vlc
[15:14] <Avt_> so is there an ap that lets me broadcast my webcam in tinychat?
[15:15] <wwwdotcom> zeep, It's not working. It's showing this error > "VLC can't recognize the input's format: The format of 'http://www.youtube.com/v/aahgS4Y47Ho' cannot be detected. Have a look at the log for details.
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> !info tinychat
[15:15] <zeep> wwwdotcom, not the youtube video url
[15:15] <zeep> wwwdotcom, right click the video, copy video url
[15:15] <A1Recon> Is there any command to revert the changes made by unity --replace ?
[15:16] <zeep> A1Recon, logout and log back in
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon  try unity -reset
[15:16] <zeep> MonkeyDust,  --reset is no longer valid
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> zeep  never needed it, so wasnt aware
[15:16] <Amr-Fahmy> what if I have did C program not a command in the terminal how to create the man page to describe this program ?
[15:16] <wwwdotcom> zeep, it's not working. Can you confirm it?
[15:16] <zeep> MonkeyDust, no worries
[15:16] <zeep> wwwdotcom, yeah i just tried it
[15:17] <PsynoKhi0> hi, for some reason Precise 64 bit refuses to install i386 packages (apt-get doesn't even list them) although dpkg is set up to allow i386, that makes WINE uninstallable, what am I supposed to do?
[15:17] <zeep> wwwdotcom, although i had to press play two or three times.
[15:17] <zeep> maybe it's a vlc thing
[15:17] <A1Recon> Zeep: need command to logout from the terminal itself
[15:17] <A1Recon> Tty1 terminal
[15:17] <zeep> A1Recon, sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[15:18] <wwwdotcom> ty
[15:18] <Excryption> Hey peeps
[15:18] <zeep> wwwdotcom, it's vlc.  smplayer played it on first try
[15:20] <Excryption> Still trying to get Unity to start. I have Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M, Ubuntu 13.04 and I've removed the AMD drivers still no use.
[15:20] <A1Recon> Zeep: thanks!! Almost abck to normal now. Just need to figure out how to get the Unity...
[15:20] <zeep> A1Recon, did you check if the unity plugin was enabled in ccsm?
[15:20] <lasers> Amr-Fahmy: Try ##linux to get better answer.
[15:21] <A1Recon> Zeep: how to check that? I installed the ccsm though....
[15:21] <zeep> A1Recon, launch ccsm and you should see Unity plugin or something
[15:22] <zeep> wwwdotcom,  you could also try out minitube
[15:23] <BluesKaj_> emif-, any luck with your audio issues ?
[15:23] <pandeiro> anybody know a tutorial for installing Ubuntu on to a USB key? I am not using Ubuntu, Windows nor Mac OS X. Can I do it without unetbootin or any other extra software, just using 'dd'?
[15:23] <pandeiro> (I want to create a persistent Ubuntu installation on the USB key itself)
[15:23] <zeep> pandeiro, dd is fine
[15:23] <BluesKaj_> !usb | pandeiro
[15:23] <zeep> pandeiro, oh not sure about persistant
[15:25] <emif-> BluesKaj_,  yes i have to reboot i guess
[15:25] <A1Recon> Zeep: u were right. The unity plugin was not enabled...so I enabled it and told it resolve conflicts...and voila everything looks like its back to normal...
[15:25] <emif-> bbiab
[15:26] <pandeiro> BluesKaj_: that second link is interesting but the version mentioned are all 3-4 years old
[15:26] <mehdi_> Hello
[15:26] <A1Recon> Zeep: Thanks! Shukran! Shukriya! Grazie! Dhanyawad! Thanks!!
[15:27] <Excryption> You got it to work o.o
[15:27] <Avt_> anyone goin to help me broadcast my webcam on tinychat?
[15:28] <pandeiro> wondering also why the tutorial mentions two partitions; for simplicity i would prefer to just put everything in one partition; the whole USB drive is only 2GB
[15:28] <BluesKaj_> pandeiro, that's factoid genrated in the chat , it's the latest there is
[15:28] <muh2000> putty sometimes fails to load. :( only a "dead" process remains. any suggestions?
[15:28] <mehdi_> I have a problem with redshift. When I want to quit it with the icon on top bar, it goers back to normal, but a second later, it goes back to night setting, and quits. even uninstalling and reinstalling redshoft doesn't change anything :/
[15:29] <mehdi_> how do I change back to normal light ?
[15:29] <lasers> mehdi_: Try "man redshift" and see what it had to say.
[15:30] <mehdi_> lasers, I have read the man entry, I tried "redshift -t DAY", but nothing happened
[15:31] <mehdi_> lasers, I found it ! "redshift -x" :D
[15:32] <lasers> mehdi_: ;)
[15:32] <datgame> i have a problem with hybrid gpu i cant switch between the 2 of them here is a link with info http://pastebin.com/Ngrceckk
[15:32] <mehdi_> datgame, hybrid ? Do you mean optimus ?
[15:33] <datgame> mehdi_, i have nvidia and intrel
[15:33] <datgame> mehdi_, intel
[15:33] <datgame> mehdi_, nvidia geforce with cuda
[15:33] <mehdi_> I know that there are problems with hybrid GPU on GNU/Linux
[15:34] <mehdi_> I don't know if nvidia driver supports optimus
[15:34] <bekks> They dont, afaik.
[15:34] <mehdi_> I can't help you with this ^^'
[15:35] <datgame> so you are saying that i cant switch between nvidia and intel?
[15:35] <Phoenixz> when I ping server A, I get every second a ping of 50mS. If I ping server B, I get one 50mS ping every 20 seconds.. Both do not seem to drop packets.. Why is it that ping to some servers repeats very very slow?
[15:35] <A1Recon> what was that command for installing ccsm? sudo apt-get install ccsm i guess
[15:36] <jpds> A1Recon: No.
[15:36] <datgame> Phoenixz, try with internval -i 6 for example
[15:36] <jpds> A1Recon: compizconfig-settings-manager.
[15:37] <iceroot_> A1Recon: i guess you mean "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:37] <datgame> Phoenixz, interval
[15:37] <A1Recon> jpds: datgame: iceroot_: Thanks!!
[15:37] <Phoenixz> datgame: I already found out that server A hostname was in /etc/hosts, server B hostname not. If I ping directly, its fast.. so it seems the hostname lookup is horribly slow, but if I do a dig hostname, I get a reply right away.. So what might be a cause of this then?
[15:37] <iceroot_> datgame: you need bumblebee to switch betwen them
[15:40] <datgame> Phoenixz, sorry i dont know but if you want take pings faster just add to -i (number in second)
[15:42] <datgame> iceroot_, how does that work?i follow the instructions from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation
[15:42] <Narwhaal> Hi, is KiTTy available in the repo's for Ubuntu 13.04 ?
[15:42] <vfw> I have a problem with cups in a LTS system, (12.04 upgraded from 10.04). "start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.72" (uid=1000 pid=2811 comm="start cups ") interface="com.ubuntu.U pstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")"
[15:43] <bekks> !info kitty
[15:43] <bekks> Narwhaal: No.
[15:43] <Narwhaal> ok thx
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> !info kitty precise
[15:47] <zeep> A1Recon, (was afk), congrats!
[15:47] <BluesKaj_> emif-, ok back
[15:49] <shazzr> Why does onlye skype and tint2 start in this file, while the other stuff does not? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5651505/
[15:50] <zeep> shazzr, often times you just need some sleeps in there
[15:50] <Excryption> Hello everyone. My Unity is enabled in CCSM but it won't show up. I have an dell laptop with Intel HD4000 and AMD Radeon 7730M.
[15:50] <zeep> Excryption, what driver are you using
[15:51] <shazzr> zeep: Can I just put sleep 3 in front of DISPLA=:0....?
[15:51] <Excryption> I'm using catalyst driver. I just changed it to igpu
[15:51] <Excryption> 13.4 Catalyst
[15:51] <zeep> shazzr, i'd put a sleep before xrandr and after tint 2
[15:52] <zeep> Excryption, did you do 'aticonfig --initial' ?
[15:52] <Excryption> Yes I did
[15:52] <zeep> and you're on 13.04?
[15:53] <adamk> Excryption: Run compiz/unity from a terminal window and see if you get any errors.
[15:55] <eliqtrope> hi
[15:56] <Excryption> CompizConfig Settings Manager is up and no errors
[15:56] <A1Recon> is there a way to constantly see the current net speed??
[15:56] <eliqtrope> why it is not possible to format the entire disk with mkfs.ntfs?
[15:57] <eliqtrope> with mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdc i got
[15:57] <bekks> eliqtrope: Normally, you create a partition on a disk.
[15:57] <zeep> ^
[15:58] <somsip> !pastebin
[15:58] <zeep> eliqtrope, cfdisk /dev/sdc, create a partition, then mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdc1
[15:59] <zeep> Excryption, did you check /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log ?
[16:01] <eliqtrope> zeep: cfdisk said me fatal_error: cannot open dik drive
[16:01] <zeep> eliqtrope, you'll need to use sudo
[16:02] <AndChat|135641> Okay I think my unity is back
[16:02] <AndChat|135641> I just don't see the side bar
[16:02] <AndChat|135641> It top bar
[16:02] <AndChat|135641> Or
[16:03] <AndChat|135641> Super s gives me all four workspaces
[16:04] <zeep> AndChat|135641,  did you check if unity was enabled in ccsm?
[16:04] <AndChat|135641> Yes it is
[16:04] <eliqtrope> zeep: what's happens for data on /dev/sdc if i create a sdc1?
[16:04] <AndChat|135641> I changed to igpu, reboot and I think it's back.
[16:05] <bekks> eliqtrope: That data will be lost.
[16:05] <zeep> eliqtrope, does it have any partitions already?
[16:05] <eliqtrope> any
[16:05] <AndChat|135641> But I don't see the sidebar for all my apps and stuff. Or top bar just desktop
[16:05] <a5h15h> Was testing Ubunut 12.04 using "ISO boot". This is where the installer stalls http://i40.tinypic.com/5jvawx.jpg
[16:06] <eliqtrope> i’ve just a bunch of data on sdc
[16:06] <bekks> eliqtrope: It will be lost.
[16:06] <AndChat|135641> Haha it's back!!!!
[16:06] <zeep> eliqtrope, does cfdisk list any existing partitions?
[16:06] <bekks> zeep: You dont need a partition to store data on a disk.
[16:07] <eliqtrope> zeep: no. the list is empty
[16:07] <A1Recon> is there a way to constantly see the current net speed in the terminal??
[16:07] <bekks> A1Recon: iftop
[16:07] <zeep> bekks, i know
[16:07] <AndChat|135641> MY UNITY IS BACK YAY.
[16:08] <AndChat|135641> How do I check what my current gpu is please
[16:08] <user__> kya be gandu
[16:08] <bekks> AndChat|135641: lspci | grep VGA
[16:08] <AndChat|135641> Thank you
[16:08] <manya> gandu aj gudi padwa hai
[16:09] <zeep> eliqtrope,  back up the data then before doing anything
[16:09] <manya> mc
[16:09] <manya> bc
[16:09] <A1Recon> who is the moderator here??
[16:10] <AndChat|135641> Bekks doesn't work
[16:10] <bekks> AndChat|135641: Why?
[16:10] <AndChat|135641> That first character
[16:10] <A1Recon> !ops
[16:10] <D-coy> A1Recon: m4v
[16:10] <AndChat|135641> What it's it please
[16:10] <Myrtti> A1Recon: yes?
[16:10] <BackBox> helo
[16:10] <Longtermcoin> hello
[16:11] <bekks> AndChat|135641: Which first character? It was a l - the character between k and m.
[16:12] <AndChat|135641> The letter L?
[16:12] <AndChat|135641> Or | that
[16:12] <bekks> AndChat|135641: Yes. "lspci | grep VGA"
[16:12] <Longtermcoin> finds your video graphics adapters
[16:12] <AndChat|135641> Oooh okay. Thank you
[16:12] <markalanevans> Hey folks. I have a few instances on AWS / EC2.   I didn't set them up.
[16:13] <markalanevans> I can can connect to   Server A from  my local,
[16:13] <markalanevans> and I can connect to Server B by ssh to A then ssh to B
[16:13] <markalanevans> but I can't connect to B from my local
[16:13] <markalanevans> nor can I ping it.
[16:13] <AndChat|135641> Okay it skews me both my amd and Intel. I would like to know which one is current the one I'm using please
[16:13] <markalanevans> i checked the security groups on aws and they are both using the same security group.
[16:13] <markalanevans> and they both have an elastic IP
[16:14] <aaron_> is gnome panel  less hungry than unity 2d?
[16:14] <markalanevans> what things should i look at to see why It can't be connected to from outside the local amazon network.
[16:14] <bekks> markalanevans: I suggest asking the one who set it up.
[16:14] <markalanevans> bekks: hes gone.
[16:14] <zeep> AndChat|135641,  does one of them say '[VGA Controller]' ?
[16:14] <bekks> markalanevans: Then check iptables and ssh configurations.
[16:14] <AndChat|135641> Both say that
[16:15] <aaron_> bekks, i fix the problem i just wanted more battery duration so i disabled the discrete gpu from the bios lol
[16:15] <bekks> aaron_: Which problem?
[16:15] <markalanevans> bekks: http://pastie.org/7827456
[16:15] <AndChat|135641> VGA compatible controller
[16:15] <markalanevans> Thats the ip tables.
[16:15] <aaron_> bekks, with the hybrid gpu
[16:15] <eliqtrope> zeep: i miss something? mkfs.ntfs is hold on Initializing device with zeroes: 0%
[16:15] <markalanevans> bekks: but its the same on my server A. which I can connect to .
[16:15] <bekks> aaron_: I have no clue about your specific problem :)
[16:16] <aaron_> bekks, i wanted to change between the 2 of them but i couldnt do it
[16:16] <aaron_> bekks, :D
[16:16] <bekks> aaron_: Glad you solved it anyways :)
[16:16] <zeep> eliqtrope, what did you do before mkfs/
[16:16] <aaron_> bekks, facepalm :O
[16:16] <AndChat|135641> It seems I have catalyst installed
[16:16] <eliqtrope> cfdisk /dev/sdc, create primary partition sdc1 and then mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdc1
[16:17] <eliqtrope> ah 1%
[16:17] <zeep> AndChat|135641, you could check which module is loaded, fglrx or intel
[16:17] <AndChat|135641> How please
[16:18] <adamk> AndChat|135641: Run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[16:18] <zeep> AndChat|135641,  lsmod will show you the currently active modules
[16:18] <eliqtrope> zeep: 1tb
[16:18] <AndChat|135641> Oh in AMD Catalyst it's Intel
[16:18] <Guest5232> Okay, for some reason I'm having an insanely hard time getting flash for firefox on the latest stable ubuntu (LTR, 12.04 I think it was)
[16:18] <it123> hi aaas
[16:18] <zeep> eliqtrope, shouldn't take too long. it's just writing the filesystem ;o
[16:19] <a5h15h> I am testing Ubunut 12.04 using "ISO boot". This is where the installer stalls http://i40.tinypic.com/5jvawx.jpg
[16:19] <a5h15h> Any way to fix this?
[16:19] <zeep> alternate install
[16:19] <a5h15h> Is this issue related to my graphics driver?
[16:19] <adamk> a5h15h: That's very unlikely.
[16:20] <mayhew> Guest5232: what have you tried doing? Just search Flash in the software center.
[16:21] <AndChat|135641> paste.ubuntu.com/5651591
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> a5h15h, What release is this?
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> ah 12.04 my bad
[16:22] <adamk> AndChat|135641: You are using both the intel and fglrx drivers.
[16:22] <theperfectpunk> hello
[16:23] <AndChat|135641> So my hybrid works?
[16:23] <theperfectpunk> i can't compile my wireless lan drivers
[16:23] <AndChat|135641> I can switch between them o.o
[16:23] <theperfectpunk> here's a pastebin of what happens
[16:23] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/ei67W7HD
[16:24] <albttashi> hi
[16:24] <theperfectpunk> anybody?
[16:25] <albttashi> startup disk creator -- crash how to create usb from ubuntu ??
[16:25] <adamk> It's not a matter of switching between them...  The way hybrid GPUs work is that the intel GPU generally draws all 2D content (since it's hardwired to the crtc), and the AMD GPU will be used to render anything 3D, and then it dumps the data to the intel GPU to push to the monitor.
[16:25] <a5h15h> wilee-nilee, This is the iso i am using ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:25] <adamk> AndChat|135641: In theory, anyway.
[16:25] <AndChat|135641> Hehe okay. Thank you very much for all your help.
[16:25] <a5h15h> wilee-nilee, I have also tried the 32-bit version, but with the same result.
[16:25] <AndChat|135641> Just glad to have it working again
[16:26] <opiate> Lasse- hi :> if my bios doesn't show a usb option, just floppy(lol) and disk.. i'll have to burn to disc prob right?
[16:26] <albttashi> startup disk creator -- crash how to create usb from ubuntu ??
[16:26] <albttashi> please help
[16:26] <Lasse-> opiate: Try separate bootmenu
[16:26] <opiate> elaborate
[16:26] <opiate> oh
[16:26] <opiate> kk ;?
[16:26] <opiate> ;>
[16:26] <FloodBot1> opiate: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:26] <FloodBot3> opiate: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> albttashi, This a installed ubuntu you are running the startup disk creator on?
[16:27] <eliqtrope> zeep: i omited --fast
[16:28] <eliqtrope> http://forums.techguy.org/linux-unix/1058823-solved-need-create-ntfs-partition.html
[16:28] <theperfectpunk> please anybody http://pastebin.com/ei67W7HD
[16:28] <albttashi> I have U13.04 and wanna create new usb flash from iso ,But it's default app is crashed
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> a5h15h, Compiz is known to crash on occasion, what s the final goal here?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> albttashi try unetbootin or multisystem
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> albttashi, there are a handful of usb loaders, do you know of any others?
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> !who | albttashi
[16:30] <a5h15h> wilee-nilee, Final goal is to install the OS. But this is the first time I am booting from the ISO image stored on hard-disk.
[16:30] <kingfisher64> anyone in here using nxclient for ubuntu 12.04? Gone through a software list I need to get working in Ubuntu that I currently have working in windoze. This is the only app in question.
[16:30] <eliqtrope> zeep: "mkfsntfs completed successfully. Have a nice day" :)
[16:30] <zeep> eliqtrope, ah
[16:30] <theperfectpunk> Can't compile driver
[16:30] <zeep> eliqtrope, enjoy :)
[16:30] <theperfectpunk> help
[16:30] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/ei67W7HD
[16:30] <albttashi> Wilee: thanks :)
[16:31] <albttashi> Mokey : unetbootin not work on U13.04
[16:31] <eliqtrope> bekks: thx too
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, Can you identify the wireless, and where you got this driver?
[16:31] <theperfectpunk> rt3290
[16:31] <theperfectpunk> ralink rt3290
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> !who | theperfectpunk
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, What release are you running?
[16:32] <theperfectpunk> Ubuntu 13.04
[16:32] <Guy11> hey guys i'm trying to install ubuntu... dual booting with windows 8, but some of the install options are confusing
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Guy11
[16:33] <Guy11> wait a second
[16:33] <wilee-nilee> Guy11, Have you seen this link?
[16:33] <Guy11> I got the install dvd and it's asking me to install alongside 'other operating systems' I say no
[16:33] <Guy11> so I want to install in the HD unpartitioned space
[16:34] <onionHead_> Guy11: why
[16:34] <wizmoi> Hey Guys, I am faced with issues. I am using Kubuntu 12.10 on a Lenovo W530. I am not able to get graphic drivers working fine. I enabled discrete(cause of Optimus) mode in my Bios, installed the last nvidia drivers, but when I used nvidia-xconfig and then rebooted. My screen resolution became very poor (bad resolution) and nvidia-settings still refused to work (it says that I need to use nvidia-xconfig).
[16:34] <Guy11> what do you mean why?
[16:34] <theperfectpunk> !wilee-nilee Ubuntu 13.04
[16:35] <onionHead_> Guy11: it has to be partitioned
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> Guy11, A aimed install is done in the something other option, this is a manual install. Make sure you are aware of the uefi gpt info in that link if the W8 is this type.
[16:35] <Guy11> all I did was shrink my w8 partition and left the space unallocated, isn't that enough to prepare?
[16:36] <Guy11> the w8 is an upgrade though
[16:36] <zeep> wizmoi, you probably need to run nvidia-xconfig to create a basic config file
[16:36] <onionHead_> Guy11: the installer is not seeing it?
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> Guy11, So no uefi, and always use nicks please.
[16:36] <Guy11> no it is, but my question are the options it asks me
[16:36] <Guy11> like ext4, and then something about /root, /boot etc
[16:37] <Guy11> nicks?
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> Guy11, Hve you read the uefi link?
[16:37] <wizmoi> zeep, thx for your support but i already run nvidia-xconfig and the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file has been created
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> !who | Guy11
[16:37] <v0lksman> hello all!  I tried to install nvidia-310 and I lose all resolutions.  My machine doesn't seem very stable with Nouveau.  What is the best way to install Nvidia drivers in 13.04?
[16:38] <zeep> wizmoi, oh yeah i misread. i use ati, can't be of much help :/
[16:38] <ezra-s> v0lksman, the easy way is through software updates application in the tab for third party drivers
[16:39] <v0lksman> ezra-s: yeah that's what I tried before...I end up with 640x480 and no other options, single monitor etc...
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> ezra-s, Additional drivers they are in the repos, not really 3rd party per-say.
[16:39] <v0lksman> GeForce 220
[16:39] <zeep> is there any way to get the nice boot splash with prop. drivers?
[16:39] <ezra-s> wilee-nilee, that's right, my fault
[16:40] <ezra-s> software sources
[16:40] <v0lksman> I also ran nvidia-xconfig and it seems to make things worse...I ended up having to delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf in order to get Nouveau working again
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> !wilee-nilee got anything?
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> hey wilee-nilee got anything?
[16:40] <ezra-s> v0lksman, problem is if there is nouveau driver loaded in kernel nvidia driver module won't work correctly
[16:41] <zeep> is this still a viable solution for boot splash with prop drivers? http://askubuntu.com/questions/96616/purple-start-screen-no-splash-screen
[16:41] <Guy11> Do I need to mess around with the uefi stuff if my laptop is ubuntu "certified"?
[16:41] <ezra-s> v0lksman, if you are knowledgeable I'd recommend you to download nvidia drivers from the nvidia driver, remove all precompiled packages you have of nvidia, and install those
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, My advice would to get a wifi that works out if the box those are problematic even if gotten to work.
[16:41] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, what's the problem?
[16:41] <v0lksman> ezra-s: any good step by step guides?  I would assume that if I tell it to install nvidia-310 it would remove nouveau
[16:42] <wizmoi> same issue for me if i deleted the xorg.conf generated by nvidia-xconfig my resolution is better
[16:42] <theperfectpunk> can't compile drivers
[16:42] <varunendra> for wireless?
[16:42] <ezra-s> v0lksman, it does not.. it configures the system so the nvidia driver takes precedence over the nouveau, but something must have gone wrong for you
[16:42] <theperfectpunk> Here's the pastebin
[16:42] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/ei67W7HD
[16:43] <theperfectpunk> rt3290 on Ubuntu 13.04
[16:43] <ezra-s> v0lksman, make sure when you do "lsmod | grep nvidia" something shows up
[16:43] <aaron_> indicators doesnt work in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit gnome panel
[16:43] <theperfectpunk> the driver compiled fine on Ubuntu 12.04
[16:43] <ezra-s> if not, your system is not correctly loading the necessary driver
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, Just so you are aware you can tab complete nicks, type in the first couple of the nick and hit tab.
[16:43] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, please post output of : lspci -nn | grep 280
[16:43] <aaron_> gnome-fallback
[16:44] <johndoe> can i somehow prevent apt-get from breaking on broken packages/dependencies?
[16:44] <bekks> johndoe: No, you should fix those problems.
[16:44] <theperfectpunk> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3290]
[16:44] <ezra-s> johndoe, breaking on broken?
[16:45] <theperfectpunk> var
[16:45] <til4k> fresh installed 13.04, coming along
[16:45] <til4k> coming along
[16:46] <saliak> anyone had luck getting scanner buttons to work? i'm trying to get the button on my scanner to work. currently getting scanbd installed and getting stuck because it can't find sane-config.  what package is that located in? i've asked in #sane with no luck
[16:46] <aaron_> does anybody knows why indicators doesnt work in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit gnome-fallback?
[16:46] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, can you give me the link where you downloaded the driver from?
[16:46] <torpet> !skype
[16:46] <torpet> !nvidia
[16:47] <johndoe> ezra-s: it refuses to install new packages because of some broken ones
[16:47] <ezra-s> johndoe, sudo apt-get -f install
[16:48] <johndoe> it doesnt fix anything, because i put those packages on hold
[16:48] <johndoe> i dont want apt to touch those packages
[16:48] <trism> aaron_: do you have indicator-applet-complete installed and have it added to the panel?
[16:48] <ezra-s> johndoe, I see
[16:48] <johndoe> those are some old packages which i installed by hand
[16:48] <johndoe> they arent available in newer versions
[16:48] <johndoe> :(
[16:48] <aaron_> trism, yes
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> johndoe, Have you locked them in synaptic?
[16:49] <tgunr_> A have a fellow remotely trying to install ubuntu server 12.04, he burned a CD and during install got to end an an error occurred, "Unable to install the selected kernel package :linux-generic-lts-quantal", is there anyway to verify the image he is using matches a MD5 or SHA1 of the original?
[16:49] <aaron_> trism, wait what do you mean by added to the panel?
[16:49] <ezra-s> johndoe, sorry man, but if they are breaking something else apt-get works that way afaik
[16:49] <trism> aaron_: alt+right click the panel, add to panel, Indicator Applet Complete
[16:49] <johndoe> wilee-nilee: echo "<package> hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[16:49] <OerHeks> tgunr_,  32 or 64 bit ?
[16:49] <tgunr_> 64
[16:49] <johndoe> wilee-nilee: more specifically, echo "amarok14 hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[16:49] <gagarin1> Hello i have a question. I've installed ubuntu on my laptop and now i want to install windows along side the ubuntu partition. Can i resise the ubuntu's partition to create some free space for windows and intall it there?
[16:50] <OerHeks> tgunr_, check the md5sum > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[16:50] <aaron_> trism, now all my icons are doubled
[16:50] <tgunr_> cc, thanks
[16:50] <aaron_> trism, hahahaj
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> gagarin1, probably can you install gparted and take a screenshot of the HD and post it n a imagebin?
[16:51] <trism> aaron_: ha, strange, you can probably remove one of them then, wonder why they didn't show up initially
[16:51] <aaron_> trism, how can i remove them?
[16:51] <gagarin1> wilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/AjHfCzl.png
[16:51] <trism> aaron_: alt+right click one of the indicators and Remove from Panel
[16:52] <Bilz> hi... i have an app that only works in the terminal (command line) and I need to use it through a socks proxy to download some stuff. I have set up tor on my computer accordingly, but now how would I make the terminal use the socks server for connections?
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> gagarin1, YOU have ubuntu encrypted?
[16:52] <aaron_> trism, still no luck
[16:53] <aaron_> trism, xchat indicator doesnt work skype etc
[16:53] <trism> aaron_: oh those would be in the notification area
[16:53] <trism> aaron_: alt + right click, add to panel, notification area, that isn't there by default
[16:53] <gagarin1> wilee-nilee: im not sure, i dont remember if i encrypted it, is there a way to check it?
[16:53] <adamk> Bilz: That really depends on the program itself, not the terminal.  Many apps honor the all_proxy and/or http_proxy environmental variables.
[16:53] <johndoe> ezra-s: this was the solution xD equivs - Circumvent Debian package dependencies
[16:53] <aaron_> trism, i can find xchat but not skype
[16:54] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: got disconnected
[16:54] <aaron_> trism, and i wanted xchat to look up for message notificatios
[16:54] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: found a solution?
[16:54] <aaron_> trism, notifications
[16:54] <aaron_> trism, okay i found skype
[16:54] <aaron_> trism, :D
[16:54] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, where did you get the driver from? Its link?
[16:54] <ezra-s> johndoe, dependencies are there for more reason than a whim
[16:54] <aaron_> trism, thanks
[16:55] <aaron_> trism, one last thing can i do anything to have xchat indicator seperately?
[16:55] <Bilz> adamk, ive been reading about something to do with creating an ssh tunnel. i dont quite understand how its working though and seeing as just copying what has been done isnt working this is problematic
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> gagarin1, I have not used encryption, I am just noting the sda5 as unknown, lools like a swap.  The key to a windows install is having it first on the HD for easy access, you have ubuntu there now. If it were me I would clone the ubuntu and wipe the disc install windows then reload ubuntu. Not sure though if you are encrypted as far as reloading and having access.
[16:56] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: From here http://www.mediatek.com/_en/07_downloads/01_windows.php?sn=501
[16:56] <johndoe> ezra-s: most of the time. but sometimes the system thinks its smarter than me, ie. wants to do things i dont want it to do.
[16:57] <jluc_> hello
[16:57] <johndoe> ezra-s: this whole hassle of mine was because i wanted to have amarok-1.4 installed
[16:57] <trism> aaron_: you want a separate indicator for xchat instead of being part of the envelope indicator? it would be possible, but I don't know if anyone has made one
[16:57] <jluc_> i'm using nautilus as a file browser and manager but it doesnt display image file width and height
[16:58] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: it's rt3290
[16:58] <aaron_> trism, message me to see something
[16:58] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, found it. Taking a look at code.. wait a min.
[16:58] <gagarin1> wilee-nilee: by cloning, you mean just backing up my files for example on a external HD?
[16:58] <luist> hey guys… all the time i create a repository i have to sign it with: gpg --sign -bao Release.gpg Release   BUT i have to input the password all the time. I want to do this automatically with a script. how can avoid using a password or just input it automatically??
[16:58] <guy11> guys im installing ubuntu, i followed the uefi link-- what should my mount point be?
[16:58] <jluc_> is there a way to have nautilus display imagefiles width and height ? - or what other tool should i use ?
[16:59] <ezra-s> johndoe, for those cases in which you need to have something  but the original .deb breaks things you can unpack the deb and install the binaries or whatever you need under /usr/local or ~/.local , so you have certain control over it
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> gagarin1, That s one way, however the word files is to broad. There are cloning apps like clonezilla. This app will copy bit by g=bit the IS for a reinstall to a equal or bigger partition.
[16:59] <johndoe> ezra-s: agreed, but sometimes thats the harder way
[16:59] <ezra-s> johndoe, at the end you can use your program and it's installation is under your control only , while system packages get controlled and without problems with apt-get
[17:00] <guy11> im installing 13.04 on same HD as windows, should I use ext4 and what mount point?
[17:00] <ezra-s> johndoe, but certainly your issues are more trouble now than anything else
[17:01] <johndoe> ezra-s: why?
[17:01] <gagarin1> wilee-nilee: thank you for your help ^^
[17:01] <ezra-s> johndoe, why? you are asking here because you are in trouble right?
[17:01] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, it is not what I suspected. Must do some experiment on 13.04 (I'm on 12.04), so it will take time to figure out why the error occurred. Do you have any thread posted on this issue?
[17:01] <guy11> anyone, mount point????
[17:02] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: yes
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> gagarin1, Honestly, if you cannot even remember whether you have encrypted ubuntu I would backup waht you can't loses like media and just wipe the HD and install windows then ubuntu in an extended, so that you know exactly what is up.
[17:02] <DarkEra> guy11,  /
[17:02] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, link?
[17:02] <guy11> thanks
[17:02] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143656
[17:02] <theperfectpunk> here
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> guy11  ext4, and create a separate /home partition, too
[17:03] <guy11> why do I need another partition?
[17:03] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: by the way, u from india?
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> !home
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> guy11, ^^
[17:03] <gagarin1> wilee-nilee: okay
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> guy11  it's easier to reinstall or fresh install
[17:03] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, found it. Will post in it as soon as I have something worth posting. Yes I'm from India, in India :)
[17:04] <guy11> monkeydust: so that's like the user directory in windows?
[17:04] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: thank you!
[17:04] <guy11> Also am I able to edit and access files between windows and ubuntu installing this way?
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> guy11  i'm not familiar with windows, but actually, it's the kernel that being separated, which is impossible in that other OS
[17:05] <sid_> hello ! i am facing an issue , i am trying to establish  cloud on ubunut using openstack , so on that we have to make manual paritioning, so i created 4 necessary partions for ubuntu, rest space is coming in extended and i want to create that parition from expended onem how i can do it
[17:05] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, No problem! :) However, can't help you right away. Unless someone else has experience with this device, you must keep patience.
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> guy11, Windows is accessible from ubuntu, however not windows to ubuntu, most have a shred ntfs partition.
[17:05] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: ok
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> shared*
[17:06] <varunendra> see you on your thread then.
[17:06] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: cya later
[17:06] <guy11> wilee-nilee: so I am installing ubuntu on 2 partitions, my avail space is 25 gig how big should /home be?
[17:07] <sid_> hello ! i am facing an issue , i am trying to establish  cloud on ubunut using openstack , so on that we have to make manual paritioning, so i created 4 necessary partions for ubuntu, rest space is coming in extended and i want to create that parition from expended onem how i can do it
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> guy11  depends on what you want to do with ubuntu
[17:09] <guy11> it's for blender and krita mostly
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> guy11, With only 25 gigs I would myself not make a separate home, but I never do, it is not really needed. That s a somewhat outdated idea. home can be separated for a upgrade if needed, and one can save installed apps lists and repos and reload in a fresh install easily. I never upgrade I always fresh install it is much faster and stable.
[17:09] <axisys> how to share my desktop over the web ? I have people coming from different OS/Platform
[17:09] <sid_> hello ! i am facing an issue , i am trying to establish  cloud on ubunut using openstack , so on that we have to make manual paritioning, so i created 4 necessary partions for ubuntu, rest space is coming in extended and i want to create that parition from expended onem how i can do it
[17:09] <axisys> I am on 13.04
[17:09] <sid_> waitinig for reply
[17:10] <guy11> wilee-nilee: thanks for the reply that's what I was thinking
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> axisys  is that a server? if yes: try #ubuntu-server
[17:10] <axisys> MonkeyDust: desktop
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> guy11, Np problem, I also tend to clone installs at times as well.
[17:11] <winterpk> Hi I'm having a problem with my ubuntu webserver.  I have multiple sites set up with virtual hosts and one has an SSL cert.  However, my client is getting an ssl cert error on a different site (even though I have no links to https on that site) where its trying to use a differet domain ssl. Does anyone know the best practice when setting up mulitple sites on the same server where some use SSL
[17:11] <winterpk> and others dont?
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> winterpk  you too: #ubuntu-server
[17:11] <sid_> hello ! i am facing an issue , i am trying to establish  cloud on ubunut using openstack , so on that we have to make manual paritioning, so i created 4 necessary partions for ubuntu, rest space is coming in extended and i want to create that parition from expended onem how i can do it
[17:11] <winterpk> ok
[17:12] <sid_> are koi toh reply karo
[17:12] <axisys> when I click share desktop I do not the url:port like in older version
[17:12] <axisys> I do not see
[17:13] <sid_> hello ! i am facing an issue , i am trying to establish  cloud on ubunut using openstack , so on that we have to make manual paritioning, so i created 4 necessary partions for ubuntu, rest space is coming in extended and i want to create that parition from expended onem how i can do it
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> !repeat | sid_
[17:15] <sid_> i already searched my query on these forums, no success
[17:15] <DCE25ESK1> did i show you guys this turbzy.com/camera.html
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> sid_, At the least you need to post the information of the partitions made you can pastebin sudo fdisk -l or make an image of gparted
[17:16] <DJones> DCE25ESK1: Do you have an UBuntu support question?
[17:20] <axisys> short from using TeamViewer is there builtin option available?
[17:20] <axisys> can't use google hangout .. company policy
[17:21] <A1Recon> axisys: there's this google chrome/chromium screenshare app
[17:22] <A1Recon> axisys: I dunno if it will work though bcoz of ur company policy
[17:22] <axisys> A1Recon: let me check
[17:23] <PunkuchO> hello, i need help
[17:24] <axisys> A1Recon: do you if multiple people can view ?
[17:25] <PunkuchO> when I want to start a game (Legends) in ubuntu 12.04 I get an error sound. : S
[17:25] <BluesKaj_> ever heard of a method to delete files according to their install timestamps ?
[17:25] <PunkuchO> native_blitbuffer: select error occured
[17:25] <A1Recon> axisys: This is the link https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-remote-desktop/gbchcmhmhahfdphkhkmpfmihenigjmpp?hl=en
[17:26] <axisys> A1Recon: does not look like it will work.. Generating access code .. waiting for connection..
[17:26] <A1Recon> axisys: go to Chrome Webstore and search Chrome Remote Desktop
[17:27] <axisys> A1Recon: I already installed it..
[17:28] <A1Recon> axisys: Is it working??
[17:28] <Bilz> hi... i have an app that only works in the terminal (command line) and I need to use it through a socks proxy to download some stuff. I have set up tor on my computer accordingly, but now how would I make the terminal use the socks server for connections?
[17:28] <axisys> Generating access code .. waiting for connection..
[17:28] <axisys> A1Recon: ^
[17:28] <Bilz> more specifically this is for bbc iplayer
[17:28] <axisys> does not look like it will work
[17:28] <axisys> A1Recon: ^
[17:28] <A1Recon> wait let me google ur problem
[17:29] <A1Recon> axisys: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25609/remote-desktop-similar-to-teamviewer see here
[17:29] <ezra-s> Bilz, I don't know about tor, but other programs need a environmente variable called LD_PRELOAD with a certain lib in there so when you execute anything in that terminal it goes through the socksified connection id the socksification is correctly configured
[17:30] <ezra-s> Bilz, I use dante and I have this one for example: LD_PRELOAD="/usr/lib/dante-client/libdsocksd.so"
[17:30] <ezra-s> you can add that in your .bashrc
[17:31] <Bilz> ezra-s, i found this link: http://linuxcentre.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28 apparently doing what I need, but as doing what they have done isnt really working for me and i dont know exactly what Im doing, i can'tg et it to work
[17:31] <ezra-s> you can also alias certain command forcing it to do another socksification command insted of the original
[17:31] <Bilz> (also im not really strong with ubuntu, so a lot of the technical stuff is beyond me)
[17:32] <ezra-s> Bilz,it's not ubuntu, it's about socksification, it's the same in Linux no matter the distro
[17:32] <ezio> what's a good media server that i can play synchronized through the house but also let users play their own stuff
[17:33] <Bilz> ezra-s, sure, I understand that. when I say im not technical with ubuntu, I mean linux in general.
[17:33] <ezra-s> Bilz, with socksification you are basically on a lower level forcing a program to do a connection through a socks connection, for that you need the correct library in use when the program is being invoked and the correct configuration for the socks server and address to be used when socksification is needed
[17:34] <ezra-s> Bilz, I don't know tor, but the simplest thing I have ever used was tsocks
[17:34] <zomgwhyaremyuser> bella ciao
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> !it
[17:35] <ezra-s> Bilz, basically a configuration somwhere saying, for range <IP_ADDRESS>/24 go through <IP_ADDRESS> gw 1080 socks 5... and the necessary library loaded
[17:37] <Bilz> mm
[17:37] <Bilz> thank you ezra-s, i will look into it some
[17:37] <zomgguyz> 2yi
[17:38] <ezra-s> Bilz, good luck
[17:38] <doomlord> are haskell integers boxed (bits reserved for GC ...30 or 31bits, something liek that) .. or a power-of-2 siz
[17:38] <Bilz> thanks for your help :)
[17:38] <ezra-s> Bilz, isn't there a default configuration file for tor you can configure according to tor specifics?
[17:39] <trism> doomlord: try #haskell
[17:39] <zomgguyz> hey how do you stop people from knowing your ip in irc
[17:39] <doomlord> oops
[17:39] <doomlord> wrong tab sorry
[17:39] <jrib> !cloak | zomgguyz
[17:39] <zomgguyz> !cloak
[17:41] <zomgguyz> is that for all irc channels or just this one
[17:41] <zomgguyz> nickserv
[17:42] <DJones> zomgguyz: The best place to ask about registering nicks and about a cloak is in the channel #freenode
[17:42] <zomgguyz> k
[17:42] <FireBeard> quick question: is audio problems a big issue on 12.04...?
[17:43] <bekks> FireBeard: For me, it isnt.
[17:43] <FireBeard> on average?
[17:43] <bekks> FireBeard: Never had any sound issues.
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> FireBeard  start from the beginning, what brings you here, in one line
[17:43] <FireBeard> every time I do ANYTHING with my audio settings, it just stops working, and it even stops recognizing any cards I have
[17:43] <FireBeard> strange
[17:43] <FireBeard> MonkeyDust: audio problems
[17:44] <FireBeard> I was just curious if this was a widespread problem or not
[17:44] <FireBeard> just like smurftube
[17:45] <Bilz> thanks ezra-s, im a step closer now :)
[17:46] <FireBeard> btw, this channel has exploded since I was last here :o
[17:47] <FireBeard> so, are audio problems on 12.04 a common problem?
[17:47] <bekks> FireBeard: For me, they arent.
[17:47] <FireBeard> you said that alread, I'm asking if it's a problem in general
[17:47] <bekks> FireBeard: What do you really want to know?
[17:47] <FireBeard> exactly that...
[17:48] <FireBeard> if it's a fairly common problem or not
[17:49]  * MonkeyDust hopes problems are never common
[17:50] <FireBeard> this one seems to be, tho
[17:50] <FireBeard> that's why I'm asking
[17:51] <FireBeard> even more strange, after 3 years, the very last general update for 10.04 broke my audio in the same exact way
[17:51] <FireBeard> all the sudden, there are no more audio cards recognized by the computer, only a 'dummy' thingy
[17:52] <FireBeard> so, I was wondering if it was a 12.04 [or even an LTS] issue
[17:53] <DarkEra> FireBeard, did you try searching for similar bugs on launchpad?
[17:53] <FireBeard> on that pc I never even had any Flash audio problems
[17:54] <FireBeard> DarkEra: there are SO many bugs on there...
[17:54] <FireBeard> I tried
[17:54] <FireBeard> and it seems to be quite wide spread
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> FireBeard  don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache
[17:55] <til4k> upgrading is always bad news, just wipe the thing
[17:55] <FireBeard> sorry, force of habbit
[17:55] <Pici> FireBeard: Are you doing something special to get your audio to work in the first place? Like compiling your own drivers?
[17:55] <FireBeard> Pici: no, not at all actually
[17:55] <rmarker> i am trying to find some free internet cafe software
[17:56] <FireBeard> for some reason Ubuntu desides to not recognize any cards I have in my computer
[17:56] <FireBeard> I never had this issue before, at all, only since the last 10.04 update and now 12.04
[17:57] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: "cards"?
[17:57] <FireBeard> yes, the one on my mainboard and an USB one
[17:58] <ramilego> how to make ubuntu first boot option ?
[17:58] <FireBeard> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure#Step_1
[17:58] <FireBeard> I have to do step 1, and reboot twice, in order to make it work again
[17:58] <FireBeard> as soon as I change anything audio, I have to do the whole thing over again... it's very irritating
[17:59] <til4k> ramilego: first boot?
[17:59] <FireBeard> ramilego: grub?
[17:59] <til4k> ramilego: the CD?
[17:59] <Pici> FireBeard: What are you changing?
[18:00] <ramilego> i installed ubuntu with windows 8
[18:00] <FireBeard> Pici: ANY audio settings...
[18:00] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: set yj
[18:00] <FireBeard> gordonjcp: care to explain? I'm still just a user
[18:00] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: set the alsa load order
[18:00] <FireBeard> I'll look into that
[18:00] <ramilego> i need to make it first boot
[18:00] <FireBeard> can that even BE an isue??
[18:00] <FireBeard> wow
[18:01] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: what?
[18:01] <til4k> FireBeard: relax. we're having trouble understanding exactly what you're saying. start over
[18:01] <til4k> FireBeard: so after you upgraded your audio starting acting up. correct?
[18:02] <netlar> How do I share a file png image here for my bootchart?
[18:02] <til4k> ramilego: do you see both windows and ubuntu in a GRUB screen on bootup?
[18:02] <FireBeard> no, it started acting up after the last 10.04 update
[18:02] <The_Big_Bad_Wolf> hi
[18:02] <ramilego> yes
[18:03] <FireBeard> I can get it to work again, I just wanted to know if it's a common issue
[18:03] <til4k> netlar: dunno, imgur.com ? your ubuntu one folder ?
[18:03] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: but you still haven't said what the issue is, particularly clearly
[18:03] <FireBeard> I tried, English is not my first language
[18:03] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: mine neither
[18:03] <vijay> Hi
[18:03] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: what's actually happening
[18:03] <FireBeard> so, mine is still worse than yours, yay
[18:03] <vijay> I have a doubt
[18:04] <vijay> I need some help regarding an issue in ubuntu
[18:04] <til4k> vijay: ok
[18:04] <gordonjcp> !ask | vijay
[18:04] <vijay> can anyone help me out
[18:04] <FireBeard> like I said: the install does not recognize the audiocard at all
[18:04] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: what's the sound card?
[18:04] <vijay> thanks. I have windows 8 iso file in ubuntu 12.04
[18:04] <FireBeard> some onboard nvidia thing
[18:04] <vijay> I want to install windows 8 now
[18:04] <vijay> how can I do that?
[18:05] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: okay, can you identify what the hardware is with lspci
[18:05] <gordonjcp> vijay: #windows
[18:05] <til4k> vijay: hang on
[18:05] <FireBeard> again, I just wanted to know if this behaviour is common in 12.04
[18:05] <FireBeard> gordonjcp: not on that pc atm
[18:05] <til4k> vijay: you need to burn the image file to a blank DVD
[18:05] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: I don't have any NVidia chipset stuff, so I'm not the best person to ask
[18:05] <FireBeard> I didn't specifically ask you...
[18:05] <vijay> cant I do without burning the file
[18:05] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: it may be that the card requires some funny firmware
[18:06] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: I'd be really surprised if that's the problem though
[18:06] <vijay> like copying this iso onto a pen drive and all?
[18:06] <FireBeard> that does not explain why it just stopped working tho
[18:06] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: yeah
[18:06] <til4k> vijay: check out http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> vijay, You can load the ISO to a usb formatted as an ntfs with a bootflag extract with the archive manager, it will boot.
[18:06] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: one thing that happens with ALSA is that the cards are sometimes detected in a different order
[18:07] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: so if you've got a couple of USB audio devices attached they are the wrong way round
[18:07] <FireBeard> yea, it only has one
[18:07] <vijay> wilee
[18:07] <vijay> can you gimme any link
[18:07] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: one sound device?
[18:07] <vijay> as I am new to all these stuff
[18:07] <FireBeard> yes
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> vijay, NO links on this just found this to work.
[18:07] <FireBeard> in desparation I tried my USB XFI card, to no avail
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> woks with W7 as well
[18:07] <FireBeard> then I found the solution I posted earlier
[18:08] <FireBeard> I just asked if there was a common issue on 12.04 with soundcards in general
[18:08] <FireBeard> it's all I asked
[18:08] <vijay> wilee, i have tried using disk creator
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> vijay, The multisytem usb loader at pendrivelinux works as well.
[18:09] <vijay> to create a bootable drive
[18:09] <vijay> but I am not able to
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> vijay, I gave you two options that work.
[18:10] <gordonjcp> vijay: you are trying to create a bootable Windows installer?
[18:10] <gordonjcp> vijay: what on earth has that to do with Ubuntu?
[18:10] <FireBeard> after all these years of audio FINALLY not being a problem anymore, it returns...
[18:10] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: no, it seems pretty solid apart from that
[18:10] <FireBeard> the 'apart from that' is what gets me
[18:10] <gordonjcp> FireBeard: it may be worth identifying your specific hardware and seeing if there is some problem with that chipset
[18:11] <vijay> I want to install
[18:11] <vijay> windows 8 now
[18:11] <linuxieus> I can't seem to find any solution to this error from Software Center, tips anyone? The error: Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.115'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[18:11] <FireBeard> I can always look it up, but it wasn't a problem for many many years
[18:11] <vijay> so what can I do
[18:11] <vijay> ??
[18:11] <netlar> I have a very long boot up time, just short of 3 min, here is my boot chart http://ircshare.com/i/bj , wonder if someone can tell me what is the hang up in my boot from this chart?
[18:12] <TeamRocket1233c> How well would Gtkpod work with a 2nd-gen Shuffle?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> TeamRocket1233c  sure you're in the right channel?
[18:13] <TeamRocket1233c> I thought this was the support channel.
[18:13] <netlar> I am on 13.04 with a AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+
[18:13] <brainwash> netlar, 3 min from start until login screen?
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> TeamRocket1233c  not any support, it's for ubuntu
[18:13] <SonikkuAmerica> TeamRocket1233c: Try #gtkpod
[18:13] <netlar> brainwash: yes
[18:14] <netlar> And it is pretty fast after I log in, not sluggish at all
[18:14] <FireBeard> and when I rm everything *pulse, and reinstall the whole shebang,it works again, untill I try to modify anything audio, including output [I muted the 'surround' thingy in alsamixer, and it went dead again, same exact thing, again no more card recognized, etc]
[18:14] <TeamRocket1233c> And I'm running 13.04 on a Sempron 3400+ over here.
[18:14] <FireBeard> makes me nuts
[18:14] <brainwash> netlar, just take a look at the time scale in your bootchart
[18:15] <axisys> what is good visio like tool?
[18:15] <netlar> brainwash: I did, not sure I can make any sense of it
[18:15] <TeamRocket1233c> Unity's usable in it, definitely, but it starts to choke when put under intensive-enough use.
[18:15] <brainwash> netlar, everything is up and running after 33 secs
[18:16] <TeamRocket1233c> Meanwhile Xfce handles Vbox, Chromium, Xchat, and Pidgin going at the same time like a champ.
[18:16] <FireBeard> gordonjcp: thanks for your valiant effort tho ! :)
[18:16] <netlar> brainwash: yes notice that part, but it just sits at a blank screen for over 2 min first
[18:16] <onionHead_> FireBeard: what cpu you have
[18:16] <brainwash> netlar, are you able to switch to a virtual terminal during that time?
[18:17] <SonikkuAmerica> TeamRocket1233c: Aaaaaand Unity doesn't?
[18:17] <netlar> brainwash: you mean with cntr + alt + f1?
[18:17] <brainwash> netlar, yes
[18:17] <netlar> Dont think so, let me try again
[18:17] <FireBeard> onionHead_: an AMD quadcore, second gen
[18:18] <TeamRocket1233c> SonikkuAmerica: On my specs, it starts to choke under heavy enough load, but then I have a Sempron 3400+ with a gig and a half of RAM so -shrug-.
[18:18] <netlar> brainwash: If I can what does that mean?
[18:18] <onionHead_> FireBeard: can you run silverlight.
[18:18] <SonikkuAmerica> TeamRocket1233c: OK, I have twice as much RAM as you but an Intel 965
[18:18] <FireBeard> I forget the name of it, and this pcis too slow to to google
[18:18] <linuxieus> I can't seem to find any solution to this error from Software Center, tips anyone? The error: Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.115'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[18:18] <FireBeard> onionHead_: never tried
[18:18] <brainwash> netlar, something might be wrong with lightdm, not sure
[18:18] <TeamRocket1233c> SonikkuAmerica: I'm sure that on better hardware than what I got, it would take a lot more to choke Unity though.
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Ohhhh yes TeamRocket1233c
[18:19] <FireBeard> I tried it once, and it didn't work from what I remember
[18:19] <brainwash> netlar, did you also check the output of dmesg?
[18:19] <netlar> brainwash: I tried, not even sure what I am looking at there
[18:19] <TeamRocket1233c> SonikkuAmerica: And this is Vbox + Chromium with several tabs + Pidgin + Xchat I'm referring to here.
[18:20] <onionHead_> FireBeard: silverlight through winehq is only version 4.0. No gpu acceleration
[18:20] <FireBeard> maybe I just need to do a clean install
[18:20] <FireBeard> onionHead_: fine, but what does silverlight have to do with anything?
[18:20] <FireBeard> if you don't mind me asking
[18:20] <TeamRocket1233c> SonikkuAmerica: That's around when Unity starts to choke on my hardware.
[18:20] <brainwash> netlar, gaps between the time-stamps and timeout error, stuff like this
[18:20] <onionHead_> FireBeard: netflix
[18:20] <SonikkuAmerica> TeamRocket1233c: It would.
[18:21] <FireBeard> netflix?
[18:21] <FireBeard> again, what are you talking about?
[18:21] <netlar> brainwash: and all of that is the boot process?
[18:21] <FireBeard> I never said anything netflix like
[18:21] <Longtermcoin> abased, abased, abased, abazee
[18:21] <FireBeard> I think you got me confused with somebody else
[18:22] <onionHead_> FireBeard: netflix uses silverlight not flash to watch movies
[18:22] <TeamRocket1233c> SonikkuAmerica: Meanwhile Cinnamon handles all that really well, albeit a little slow, meanwhile Xfce handles it like a champ, plus I kinda prefer Xfce's customization anyways.
[18:22] <brainwash> netlar, some messages are added later on
[18:22] <FireBeard> onionHead_: so?
[18:22] <FireBeard> I really don't know what you are trying to say...
[18:22] <onionHead_> FireBeard: fyi only.
[18:22] <netlar> brainwash: there are lots of messages with 0 time stamps
[18:22] <FireBeard> I never said anything about netflix, mostly because we don't have that here in Holland
[18:22] <FireBeard> oh ok...
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> TeamRocket1233c: XFCE is great for GNOME 2 mourners. MATE is fine but I can't mess with it for some reason.
[18:22] <brainwash> netlar, that's normal, skip them
[18:23] <netlar> ok
[18:23] <FireBeard> oh well, thanks for all the effort in trying to help me, everybody !
[18:23] <onionHead_> FireBeard: can you streAm bbc. Its blocked in usa