[17:32] <Martyn> prepare to be very, very afraid ... I got XenArm working on the babbage
[17:51] <amitk> what is XenARM? port of Xen to ARM?
[18:01] <Martyn> Yep!
[18:01] <Martyn> It was done for cellphones, but it works absolutely great on any arm9 or arm11 variant
[18:02] <Martyn> although I need to work on some of the hardware abstractions
[18:03] <Stskeeps> Martyn: terrifying but absolutely neat
[18:07] <amitk> *shudder*
[18:11] <Martyn> amitk : It's useful.  Arm clock rates are going nowhere but up, arm CORES are going nowhere but up
[18:12] <Martyn> amitk : Hypervisors did exist without CPU support for a long time ... this may be something that gets ARM to add virtualization support into the ARM soft core
[18:22] <amitk> Martyn: I can see it being useful (e.g. to run the telephony stack in a vm on a phone), but xen is complex
[18:23]  * NCommander notes we could jut run QEMU in on a xen-amd64 host :-)
[19:11] <lool> Martyn: Well that's highly interesting to us; we'd have use of that for virtual builds
[19:11] <lool> NCommander: That was the plan
[19:11] <NCommander> lool, it was?
[19:11] <NCommander> Cool!
[19:46] <Martyn> Well, I'm having a few problems right now with the abstraction of the bus that has the network controller on it
[19:46] <Martyn> so, for the moment I can -run- the arm Xen hypervisor, but only communicate through serial
[19:46] <Martyn> and don't even have the ghost of a whisper of a chance of getting graphics up