[14:44] <NMajik> ikonia: I'm almost positive that it's not the size, and I really hope it's not the disk. Do you know if /dev/fd loops on itself?
[14:44] <r-wolf> ynef: too bad then :( so how do I install it?
[14:44] <ikonia> NMajik: /dev/fd is a floppy device
[14:44] <bazhang> kikdadog: did that solve your issue? was the free space there?
[14:44] <ikonia> NMajik: you can't delete a  things from the device files directly
[14:45] <kikdadog> nope shows being used yet
[14:45] <ynef> white_eagle: you can download a copy of wikipedia's entire data and host it on your own computer (so you can access it offline) :-)
[14:45] <nomic> ynef how big is it?
[14:45] <ynef> r-wolf: like you found, get-deb or whatever :-)
[14:45] <nomic> didn't know that
[14:45] <osfameron> but there are projects that make that a little more manageable
[14:45] <osfameron> e.g. you probably don't want the discussion pages, or the old versions
[14:45] <kikdadog>  shows /home  with 19 percent in use
[14:45] <ikonia> !offtopic
[14:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:46] <kikdadog> baz / is root right????
[14:46] <NMajik> ikonia: It's not actually in my /dev/ dir. I scp'd / from my nokia 770. Tried to anyway, it kept referencing things like "scp: //dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/mnt/initfs/proc/42/cwd/usr/lib/libosso-gsf-1.so.1: Too many levels of symbolic links" even though I let it run overnight it never got past /dev/. Now I'm trying to delete the copied files and I can't ge
[14:47] <ynef> white_eagle and nomic: http://lifehacker.com/software/wiki/build-your-own-offline-wikipedia-291518.php
[14:47] <ynef> it says right there that in august 2007, wikipedia was 2.9 gigs. have fun ;-)
[14:47] <xy77> I spent half the day trying to figure out how to enable informix support for php5 with apache, but didn't succeed. Did anyone successfully install php with informix support on a current ubuntu?
[14:48] <ikonia> xy77: have you looked if informix support is built in to the php packages by default or if there is a seperate package for it
[14:48] <ikonia> xy77: I can't see it being built in by default, nor a seperate pacakge due to it being an obscure dependency
[14:48] <kikdadog> its shows  /dev/sda6 as 98 percent used, but shows dev/sda 5 as 19 percent im gonna assume that its alright and im just a retard
[14:49] <xy77> ikonia: what do you mean by obscure dependency?
[14:49] <ikonia> xy77: well you'd have to have informix support built into php or link against client libs (most realistic option)
[14:50] <ikonia> having informix libs on boxes is very rare
[14:50] <bazhang> kikdadog: unless its a hardware issue should be ok, but running at that full will surely slow things down a bit :}
[14:50] <ikonia> well, rare for an ubuntu machine
[14:50] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: have you found a possible solution?
[14:50] <kikdadog> i think i borked things up when i logged in as root and threw them
[14:50] <bazhang> Blu3pr1nt: well, perhaps--but you might not like it :}
[14:51] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: intellinuxwireless.org? ^
[14:52] <kikdadog> thanks baz will catch u laters
[14:52] <bazhang> Blu3pr1nt: have you seen this link: yup
[14:52] <Blu3pr1nt> no sry....
[14:52] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: no sry..
[14:52] <xy77> ikonia: I try to evaluate informix for use as db backend for a cms. I installed the server and the sdk on my dev machine and would like to enable informix support for php. How do I link php against the informix client libs, can you tell me?
[14:53] <bazhang> http://intellinuxwireless.org/ that was the link I meant Blu3pr1nt
[14:53] <ikonia> xy77: you would normally have to do that at php package/build time
[14:53] <bazhang> Blu3pr1nt: be right back
[14:53] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: oh yeah...^^ ive got these files....but...when I try to install these...there are various error-messages...should i sent them to you?
[14:54] <NMajik> ikonia: Any ideas?
[14:55] <joha> Hi again!
[14:55] <sCOTTo> bazhang, hey how do i mount a usb device so i can move the file onto the hdd on the ubuntu machine?
[14:55] <ikonia> NMajik: any ideas about what ? I don't quite understand what the problem is
[14:55] <robdeman> hi all: any good guide on setting up a smtop/pop3 server on my Ubuntu box?
[14:55] <joha> How can I change what email address Cron sends its emails to?
[14:55] <ikonia> NMajik: what are you trying to copy and how
[14:55] <ikonia> joha: as in cron as a daemon or the scripts cron runs
[14:55] <murf3326> ikonia: sorry for the delay responding... I haven't tried Thunderbird for news... I'll give it a try.  Thanks.
[14:56] <ikonia> murf3326: no problem
[14:56] <gahan> is thgere any media player for ubuntu as feature-rich as new winamp5?
[14:56] <NMajik> ikonia: I was trying to copy the whole filesystem on the nokia 770 to my computer to look through.
[14:56] <ikonia> NMajik: and there is the problem your doing scp -r yes ?
[14:56] <joha> ikonia: when cron, the daemon, runs a script specified in crontab, it sends a mail with that script's output. I want to change where that email goes since I'm disabling mails to system users on the server (setting up virtual mailboxes instead)
[14:56] <xy77> ikonia: I read about building the required php module afterwards using apg-get source and using the .so generated. I missed to install apache2-dev though, so I had no apxs2. I'll try that again.
[14:57] <gsevil> i run dual boot: winxp with ubuntu, someone've just reinstall windows, and now i can't get in ubuntu. how could i fix the boot record?
[14:57] <NMajik> Yes, I let it copy for over 8 hours and I know that the memory card is only 128mb. I also saw many errors like this "scp: //dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/mnt/initfs/proc/42/cwd/usr/lib/libosso-gsf-1.so.1: Too many levels of symbolic links"
[14:57] <NMajik> "
[14:57] <pvl> is ti possible to change the maximize size?
[14:57] <NMajik> It never got beyond copying the nokia's /dev/ folder
[14:57] <ikonia> NMajik: you can't copy device files like that
[14:57] <NMajik> I realize that now
[14:57] <ikonia> NMajik: it won't get beyond /dev
[14:57] <NMajik> How do I get rid of the /dev/fd on my hard drive though?
[14:58] <NMajik> From the nokia tha tis
[14:58] <ikonia> NMajik: you don't they are device files
[14:58] <harveyd> is there a decent svn client with shell integration done for ubuntu yet?
[14:58] <ikonia> harveyd: subversion (svn)
[14:58] <NMajik> ikonia: I think we are having a miscommunication of sorts
[14:58] <ikonia> NMajik: we are not
[14:58] <pvl> harveyd, freeNX
[14:59] <joha> ikonia: got my last line?
[14:59] <ikonia> NMajik: you want to remove the /dev/fd files from your nokia so you can copy the file systems yes/no
[14:59] <hillih> Hi! how do I install an older  package version? t.ex. I have perl 5.8.7-10ubuntu1.1 installed but most downgrade to perl 5.8.7-10ubuntu1
[14:59] <ikonia> joha: sorry I think I've missed your last line
[14:59] <NMajik> ikonia: no
[14:59] <ikonia> NMajik: ok, what do you want to do
[14:59] <pvl> is it possible to change the maximize, size?
[14:59] <joha> ikonia: it was " when cron, the daemon, runs a script specified in crontab, it sends a mail with that script's output. I want to change where that email goes since I'm disabling mails to system users on the server (setting up virtual mailboxes instead)"
[14:59] <NMajik> ikonia: I already did that, they are (at least in part) sitting on my hard drive. I now want to remove them
[14:59] <harveyd> ik, yes, subversion?
[15:00] <ikonia> NMajik: remove the root file system on your hard disk
[15:00] <NMajik> ikonia: I am unable, for whatever reason, to do this
[15:00] <harveyd> pvl, the doesnt seem to be an svn client
[15:00] <ikonia> NMajik: when I say root, I mean the root of the nokia file system on your local hard disk
[15:00] <pvl> harveyd, well it isn't but i heard does the same thing only faster. im not too sure about it though, just recommending you to look into it
[15:00] <NMajik> ikonia: I tried sudo rm -rf /home/nmajik/nokia770dump
[15:00] <ikonia> NMajik: and it just does nothing ?
[15:01] <NMajik> ikonia: I forget exactly what happened, but eventually everything is deleted except ~/nokia770dump/dev/fd
[15:01] <wild_osca1> can anyone give me a hint why ide drive doesn't mount after suspend?
[15:01] <ikonia> NMajik: ls -la ~/nokia770dump/dev/fd
[15:02] <gsevil> someone reinstall windows, I can't get into ubuntu, how can I fix it? 'cause reinstall ubuntu and all application take a lot of time
[15:02] <ikonia> gsevil: ask in ##windows
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > gsevil
[15:03] <NMajik> ikonia: "drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-01-02 09:32 3" is the only thing of consequence
[15:03] <kwk> Hi! I have created two launpad accounts because I forgot about the other one, that already existed.  Either sudo, but currently su
[15:07] <ikonia> joha: ahh ok, vixie cron, direct quote
[15:08] <NMajik> ikonia: Ah, here we go. I still can't fix it, I just know what's wrong. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50501/
[15:08] <ikonia> joha: When executing commands, any output is  mailed  to  the  owner  of  the crontab (or to the user named in the MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such exists)
[15:08] <robdeman> is there an apt-get install for WU-FTP?
[15:08] <joha> aah
[15:08] <joha> thanks ikonia!
[15:08] <mw-home> OT: anyone else having problems getting to gmail?
[15:08] <MindSpark> hi, I want to enter a newline in a gnumeric cell. Does anyone know how ?
[15:08] <ikonia> joha: I was looking at generic cron - not vixiecron
[15:08] <ikonia> mw-home: this is ubuntu support
[15:08] <mw-home> OT means off topic
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mw-home: Nope
[15:08] <ikonia> NMajik: that shouldn't happen as it's not a link
[15:08] <wwwo> I just installed Ubutu 7.10 on EXT3 partition and got "kernel panic unable to mount root", please append a correct root= boot option
[15:09] <ikonia> mw-home: doesn't mean it's ok to ask
[15:09] <ikonia> mw-home: the #ubuntu-offtopic channel is better to ask in
[15:09] <NMajik> ikonia: All I know is that I can cd in what appears to be a loop
[15:09] <ikonia> mw-home: more so as you know your off topic
[15:09] <ikonia> NMajik: shouldn't be
[15:09] <ikonia> NMajik: but I can see it is
[15:09] <joha> ikonia: I think that's a pretty good starting point anyways, so - thanks - you're doing a great job of trying to help ppl here!
[15:09] <ikonia> joha: welcome
[15:09] <dejanpan> hi, does anyone know why my feisty dist would hang on tty8 and not come to the blank screen as normal? or when I can look up for repair?
[15:10] <dejanpan> sorry where
[15:10] <mw-home> ikonia: ok, will go there.  didn't know there was an offtopic channel.  my apologies.
[15:10] <cornix> Once more, as I didn't get an answer last time: Anyone here knowing about why aticonfig is crashing for me when I try to use it? I read somewhere it's not working for Gutsy
[15:10] <chazco> Hi... when connected to the motherboard my USB keyboard doesnt always work in 7.10... it works fine on a PCI USB card or 7.04... any ideas? I've managed to get a dmesg output of the two different ports if it helps
[15:10] <pteague_work> is there some trick to getting printers to work?
[15:13] <porkpie> guy's has anyone got any ideas http://pastebin.com/m76fe526a
[15:13] <dario1982> ciao
[15:13] <jaggy> anyone can help me installing lincity ?
[15:13] <ynef> jaggy: what's not working?
[15:14] <jaggy> it says i miss a package :s
[15:14] <ikonia> porkpie: your building perl
[15:14] <erefasdfsd> argggg
[15:14] <erefasdfsd> help me ffs!!!!
[15:14] <jaggy> simple directmedia layer mixer
[15:14] <ynef> jaggy: how are you installing it?
[15:14] <erefasdfsd> ubuntu sucks, it doesnt work!!!!!!!!!
[15:14] <cornix> :(
[15:14] <jaggy> package install lincity-ng-...
[15:14] <ynef> jaggy: if you use the package manager, it should just install it for you
[15:14] <jaggy> ye but it gives an error
[15:14] <porkpie> ikonia:what the problem though
[15:14] <jaggy> that i miss simple directmedia layer mixer
[15:14] <erefasdfsd> I need herlp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[15:15] <erefasdfsd> I need herlp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1¸
[15:15] <ikonia> porkpie: the static libary is not portable
[15:15] <erUSUL> !doesntwork | erefasdfsd
[15:15] <ubotu> erefasdfsd: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[15:15] <ynef> jaggy: can you pastebin the entire message?
[15:15] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: calm down and ask your question
[15:15] <jaggy> yes i can 1 sec
[15:15] <porkpie> ikonia:how do I fix it  ?
[15:15] <wild_osca1> anyone knows why suspend kills my ide dvdrom drive?
[15:16] <NMajik> ikonia: If it was linked, how would I delete it?
[15:16] <cornix> lol @ doesn't work :D
[15:16] <ikonia> porkpie: few things look odd there, like the libraries path on /usr/local/lib that seems odd, and it's trylink to use a staic lib as a dso
[15:16] <jaggy> ynef
[15:16] <jaggy> pastebin is down
[15:16] <Pici> !paste
[15:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:16] <alhicks> I just upgraded my laptop from the previous release to 7.10 and now no wireless networks show up in nm-applet.  Intel 2200BG.  Worked fine before.
[15:16] <erefasdfsd> i got HP compaq 6715s laptop that is piece of shit for other OS except Windows, i donwloaded alternate ubuntu 7.10 install cd because live cd didnt work because ubuntu doesnt recognize my ATI x1250 graphic card, and after i installed with alternate cd and tried to boot up ubuntu i got black screen, but i dont get black screen if i boot it in recovery mode, but then i cant start X
[15:17] <ikonia> porkpie: I'd have to look into that in detail as you've not given me much to go on, but I suggest you get support from teh freeradius guys
[15:17] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: using language like that will not get you help
[15:17] <alhicks> iwlist scan doesn't give any results either.
[15:17] <ynef> jaggy: do what Pici had ubotu say ;-)
[15:17] <alhicks> configuring a network through nm-applet also doesn't do anything
[15:17] <erefasdfsd> i am messing arroung with ubuntu for 6 hours
[15:17] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: this is a family channel, people do not need to see or deserve that sort of lanaguage
[15:17] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: I don't care if it has been 6 days, that language is uncalled for
[15:17] <erefasdfsd> can you please help me
[15:17] <erUSUL> erefasdfsd: boot in recovery mode and try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[15:17] <erefasdfsd> ill try
[15:17] <wols_> just checking: the debian "swirl" isn't showing at any time in the ubuntu boot process, right?
[15:18] <jaggy> ynef : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50505/
[15:18] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: not until you learn how to speak to people without swearing and ask a question politly
[15:18] <erefasdfsd> i even downloaded ati drivers but it doesnt seems to work anywy
[15:18] <jaggy> :p
[15:18] <erUSUL> erefasdfsd: that will reconfigure the grphic mode of ubuntu
[15:18] <rexy> erefasdfsd: i wouldnt bother with the binary ati drivers till you get it working normally
[15:18] <ynef> jaggy: have you tried what the message tells you to?
[15:19] <erefasdfsd> ok
[15:19] <jaggy> yes , but i can't find the lib or whatever it is
[15:19] <ryanbane> goodmorning all. happy new year
[15:19] <erefasdfsd> ill try it but i am 99.9% sure that i will be back on this channel in 10 min :((
[15:19] <rexy> alhicks: does iwconfig show any wireless network extensions?
[15:19] <jaggy> happy new yeear ryanbane
[15:20] <alhicks> oh....radio "off"
[15:20] <ynef> jaggy: libsdl-mixer1.2 sounds about right, i think
[15:20] <alhicks> just noticed that.
[15:20] <jaggy> ok ty xd
[15:20] <rexy> alhicks: there's also an extensive wiki on wireless
[15:20] <bob__> Hi, I have an ext3 that fstab shows as mounted as /data but I dont see a mount point in media.. I thought I set it up right during the install but I guess not.  Where do I go from here?
[15:20] <rexy> bob__: /data means it's in the root so cd /data
[15:20] <ynef> bob__: write "mount" in a terminal and see if it claims to have mounted the partition somewhere
[15:20] <alhicks> rexy, I was basically wondering if there was some known upgrade issue.
[15:21] <alhicks> this works fined yesterday night...and has for a year
[15:21] <jaggy> ty ynef i don't get an error now and srry for the time waste
[15:21] <rexy> alhicks: not a clue, dont know what wireless card you have, if iwconfig says it's off you have to turn it on first though, think you can do that through iwconfig
[15:21] <bob__> rexy: Did I pick a bad name for a spare partition?
[15:21] <alhicks> Rexy, intel 2200bg
[15:21] <ynef> jaggy: if everything's working now, then there hasn't been any time wasted :-)
[15:21] <jaggy> hehe
[15:22] <chazco> Hi... when connected to the motherboard my USB keyboard doesnt always work in 7.10... it works fine on a PCI USB card or 7.04... any ideas? I've managed to get a dmesg output of the two different ports if it helps
[15:22] <rexy> bob__: not necesarily, putting partitions in /media is just convention
[15:22] <makiolo> low mA
[15:22] <ikonia> makiolo: pardon ?
[15:22] <robdeman> folks: any guide on setting up a mailserver on Edgy?
[15:22] <robdeman> pop3 boxes etc
[15:23] <ikonia> robdeman: tons on https://help.ubuntu.com mostly around postfix
[15:23] <makiolo> any ports have more mA than others
[15:23] <bob__> rexy: mount shows it... let me look with nautilus
[15:23] <robdeman> ikonia: I should go for postfix?
[15:23] <ikonia> robdeman: keep in mind that if your on a dsl/cable line you will most likley be black listed by a lot of mail servers
[15:23] <ikonia> robdeman: your call what you go for
[15:23] <robdeman> ikonia: No ot is for a dedicated server I just rented
[15:23] <bob__> rexy:   Sure enough.. thanks all....
[15:23] <makiolo> my laptop have high mA in left (hard disk) and low mA in right(pendrive)
[15:23] <ynef> bob__: if you check out "man hier" in a terminal, you'll see that removable media should be mounted under /media by convention -- you can (and probably should) choose some other mount point for partitions
[15:24] <ikonia> robdeman: no problem then, just make sure your not blacklisted before starting and make sure you set it up safley so that you don't get blacklisted for being a spam host
[15:24] <ikonia> robdeman: some isp's can / will sue you if you run a mail server on their network that acts as a spam host
[15:24] <bob__> ynef: It is a fixed partition on the first drive.. should I pick a different mount point name ?
[15:24] <robdeman> Ikonia: well.. good luck form them Americans trying to sue me in Europe :)
[15:25] <robdeman> Ikonia: how do I check if I am blacklisted?
[15:25] <ynef> bob__: you can choose whatever you want, but your idea of calling it "data" sounds good to me :-)
[15:25] <ikonia> robdeman: it can be done. I've seen it from usa to europe. I'm in europe
[15:25] <bob__> ynef: Great, so dumb luck pulled me through
[15:25] <ynef> bob__: "intuition", my friend ;-)
[15:25] <wols_> robdeman: you can't really check. every blacklist (there are dozens) has a different mechanism if any
[15:26] <robdeman> ikonia: mm well anyways im just using it for 1 domain... Im gonna close it :)
[15:26] <erefasdfsd> No screens found, is error, and btw, i tried that before
[15:26] <bob__> ynef: Thanks again
[15:26] <robdeman> wols_ ahrm ok
[15:26] <alhicks> evil...the problem was that I'd accidentally hit the Fn-wireless button.
[15:26] <ikonia> robdeman: close it ?
[15:26] <rexy> spamhause has a list iirc
[15:26] <erefasdfsd> No screens found, is error, and btw, i tried that before
[15:26] <jaggy> ynef is it normal that it just closes himself after a few min :s
[15:26] <alhicks> which disabled the transmitter.
[15:26] <adante> 4hi
[15:26] <robdeman> ikonia: well, not allow SMTP - just some pop3 boxes
[15:26] <alhicks> sorry for the noise.
[15:26] <ikonia> robdeman: that sounds excellent.
[15:26] <adante> a program crashed and its is still in my tray; how can i get rid of it?
[15:26] <ikonia> robdeman: you should be fine on that config
[15:26] <whitehat> hello.any idea why I am unable to run network-admin under xubuntu 7.10 even after supplying root password.error indicates can't access config file.ideas? thank you
[15:27] <porkpie> ikonia:is there a pkg for freeradius 1.1.7 ?
[15:27] <truna> adante, whats the name of the program?
[15:27] <ynef> jaggy: nope -- start it from a terminal, so you can look if it writes an error message on the terminal when it crashes/closes
[15:27] <ikonia> porkpie: no a clue, take a look
[15:27] <adante> truna: utorrent
[15:27] <erefasdfsd> i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, and i choosed ati, and lot of other drivers, and when i typed startx i get Fatal server error: No screens found.
[15:27] <nomic> AQZZXCQ
[15:27] <ynef> jaggy: also, if you're running with 3D effects/compiz, then that might be it (some games I've played have complained about that a lot)
[15:27] <erefasdfsd> help, any1 know
[15:27] <truna> adante  ps aux|grep utorrent  then get the pid and kill -15 pidofutorrent
[15:27] <erefasdfsd> I am curssed, nothing doesnt work
[15:28] <erefasdfsd> i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, and i choosed ati, and lot of other drivers, and when i typed startx i get Fatal server error: No screens found.
[15:28] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: try the "vesa" drive just to get the machine working
[15:28] <erefasdfsd> i tried it
[15:28] <erefasdfsd> doesnt woork
[15:28] <erefasdfsd> work
[15:28] <truna> erefasdfsd, you rebooted?
[15:29] <adante> truna: i killed it a while ago; ps aux |grep utorrent shows nothing (except the grep proc)
[15:29] <Pici> erefasdfsd: Try using vesa, not ati first.
[15:29] <erefasdfsd> no i just choosed driver, got some warning about overwriting, and typed startx, didnt reboote
[15:29] <erefasdfsd> do i need to reboot?
[15:29] <jaggy> ynef how do i turn of compiz ?
[15:29] <slavik> cd #offtopic-ubuntu
[15:29] <ikonia> Pici: he says he's tried it, but I'm not convinced
[15:29] <truna> adante so it is killed, now you want what again?
[15:29] <jaggy> and i think that this is the error : No Component specified in cell 2, 1  Segmentatiefout (core dumped)
[15:30] <adante> the icon in my tray, i would like it to go away
[15:30] <adante> truna: the icon in my tray, i would like it to go away
[15:30] <dphase> gdm is using a different resolution than my desktop, and is using a modeline not set in my xorg.conf, how can i change this?
[15:30] <ynef> jaggy: can't remember now, but you'll have them in your preferences menu somewhere (i'm not in gnome at the moment)
[15:30] <truna> adante, when you right click, nothing that says remove ?
[15:31] <adante> truna: when i right click, nothing happens
[15:31] <adante> truna: on the icon that is
[15:31] <elder> anyone know if All seeing eye is compatible with ubuntu?
[15:32] <truna> adante not on the icon but on an empty area within the tray, maybe its preferences?
[15:32] <slavik> I am trying to pipe X over SSH, but I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication." when running an ax app
[15:32] <jaggy> ok ynef
[15:32] <ynef> jaggy: they're called "desktop effects", if i remember correctly
[15:33] <adante> truna: hm, i seem to have just removed my entire system tray :]
[15:33] <jaggy> its off ynef but still crashing
[15:33] <collins> im using a newer custom kernel than what ubuntu 7.10 ships with, but now the stupid Restricted Drivers manager thing keeps preventing me from using the NVIDIA drivers since it doesn't recognize what kernel i am using
[15:33] <adante> what is the 'system tray' called in ubuntu, i would like to add it to my panel again but can't seem to find it
[15:33] <ynef> jaggy: did you try starting it from a terminal then?
[15:34] <collins> how do i remove restricted drivers manager thing
[15:34] <collins> from ubuntu
[15:34] <slavik> collins: you don't, just don't install the drivers
[15:34] <bob__> how do I give myself or anyone permission to use my spare partition I have mounted as /data .. chmod somehting ?
[15:34] <truna> adante sorry i got you into more trouble
[15:35] <collins> slavik, that's nice and all, but the vesa drivers suck for xorg
[15:35] <adante> truna: no worries seem to have gotten it back
[15:35] <collins> slavik, so i need to install the nvidia drivers
[15:35] <soundray> adante: it's called Notification Area applet
[15:35] <slavik> restricted drivers manager has nothing to do with vesa driver though
[15:35] <truna> bob__, chmod a+rwx
[15:35] <adante> truna: seems to have 'fixed' it anyway, my tray is now empty :P
[15:35] <adante> soundray: cheers
[15:35] <slavik> collins: you can use the nvidia installer from their site, it's what I do
[15:36] <jaggy> yes ynef
[15:36] <scott_> se
[15:36] <ynef> jaggy: so does it say anything?
[15:36] <jaggy> and i keep getting the same error
[15:36] <collins> slavik, the problem is, i am using a newer kernel than ubuntu, and i installed the nvidia drivers from nvidias site, thats fine, but when i go to turn on desktop effects it says restricted drivers manager is not correct version for kernel
[15:36] <bob__> truna: How do I tell it what folder to change the permissions on.. or does it do it to the current folder/partition
[15:36] <collins> slavik, stupid bug on ubuntus part i guess, or maybe they are figuring no one is going to use newer kernels
[15:36] <slavik> hmm
[15:36] <collins> than what ships with it
[15:36] <slavik> don't do it that way
[15:36] <slavik> just have compiz start up in the session
[15:37] <albatross27>  How much C must one know to program with GTK?
[15:37] <jaggy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50509/
[15:37] <collins> slavik ill give that a try, didnt thinof that
[15:37] <endo> Anyone know how I can go about getting all the album covers on my ipod?
[15:37] <truna> bob__, the /mountpointitself
[15:37] <soundray> bob__: what filesystem do you have in the /data partition?
[15:38] <Pici> albatross27: None, other languages have gtk libraries that you can use, like mono, python, etc..
[15:38] <bob__> soundray: it is ext3
[15:38] <nmb> I'm trying to set up Xen and bridged networking and so I've been setting up many bridges unsuccessfully.  These bridges are reincarnated after a reboot, which I don't want.  Does anyone know why a bridge would be recreated after reboot?
[15:38] <bob__> soundray: only thing in there is lost and found at the moment
[15:38] <ynef> jaggy: that's really strange -- segmentation faults are usually just "crashes", so you should try asking a lincity support channel for help
[15:38] <bob__> soundray:        so        chmod a+rwx /data
[15:38] <erefasdfsd> it doesnt work
[15:38] <jaggy> ynef where is there one ?
[15:39] <acidicchip> I am using Ubuntu 7.10, and I am connecting via KPPP to Verizon, and Pidgin doesn't seem to detect the internet connection to connect to the services. Any suggestions?
[15:39] <albatross27> Pici: well, I mean in C
[15:39] <cornixx> aticonfig is broken on Gutsy?
[15:39] <soundray> bob__: then I would recommend that you 'sudo mkdir /data/$USER && sudo chown $USER:$USER /data/$USER && sudo chmod u+rwx /data/$USER'
[15:39] <truna> nmb, does Xen have an entry in something like /etc/init.d/ or /etc/rcS  that starts the network for it?
[15:39] <Pici> albatross27: I don't know, sorry.  Anyway, its offtopic for this channel.
[15:39] <erefasdfsd> when i run normally i get one forever black screen, and in recovery mode X doesnt work
[15:39] <bob__> soundray: I would love to... but please explain what it is that I would be doing with that command
[15:40] <family> Hey guys, sound doesn't seem to be working anymore after upgrading to gutsy. What can I do to troubleshoot?
[15:40] <erefasdfsd> when i run normally i get one forever black screen, and in recovery mode X doesnt work
[15:40] <truna> erefasdfsd, i hope you have saved the original before modifying xorg stuff
[15:40] <erefasdfsd> nope
[15:40] <nmb> truna: there's /etc/init.d/xend, but I've got that configured to not set up any networking (in /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp)
[15:40] <erefasdfsd> i didnt
[15:41] <soundray> bob__: three parts: the first creates a directory with your username, the second makes it owned by that same user, and the third one gives you read, write and 'cd-into' rights for that new directory.
[15:41] <erefasdfsd> i guess ill just delete it
[15:41] <soundray> !cli > bob__, you may find this useful (private message)
[15:41] <bob__> soundray: Thank you
[15:41] <truna> erefasdfsd, you may have to reboot from liveCD and copy a working xorg.conf file from there
[15:41] <erefasdfsd> it doesnt work
[15:41] <ynef> family: well, what sound card do you have and do you know what module was used in the previous version?
[15:42] <erefasdfsd> i tried to install ubunt with 32,64 bit live cd, and alternative cd, nowhere doesnt work X
[15:42] <erefasdfsd> my graphic card is crao
[15:42] <wols_> erefasdfsd: what card?
[15:42] <Pici> erefasdfsd: You should get an error if X doesnt start.
[15:42] <erefasdfsd> i got error
[15:42] <wols_> erefasdfsd: answer my question pleasre
[15:42] <family> ynef: alsa was used before, and it's onboard AC'97 Sound Controller
[15:42] <Pici> erefasdfsd: What did the error say?
[15:42] <erefasdfsd> i got error in recovery mode, but in normal, i got blank screen forever
[15:43] <truna> nmb, I dont know how Xen does it, on vmware, it has a directory for example to start a dhcp server at boot, so I will assume that Xen does similar
[15:43] <erefasdfsd> error is no screen found
[15:43] <erefasdfsd> and above that EE no device found
[15:43] <bob__> soundray: I did it and I see what all it did and does. Tested and working. Thanks guys.
[15:43] <ynef> family: sounds simple enough for ubuntu to support -- do you have access to it via the mixer, or is it simply "not there"?
[15:44] <vwbusguy__> nick vwbusguy
[15:44] <family> ynef: It's there, it's just not playing any sound what-so-ever
[15:44] <ynef> family: and it's not so simple that it's just muted or turned really low on "PCM" or something?
[15:44] <family> ynef: It did work with fiesty, and then the upgrade to gutsy seems to have broken it
[15:44] <family> ynef no definitely not
[15:44] <nmb> truna:  this isn't using a DHCP server on the host, it's supposed to be bridging one of the host interfaces to one of the virtual machines.  I've got that part working manually, but I have four different non-functional bridges that show up when I reboot that appear to be artifacts from my testing, but I can't figure out where they are coming from on reboot.
[15:45] <OlMightyG> is it possible to make a dvd run which says "permission denied"?
[15:45] <erefasdfsd> wols: helloo????
[15:45] <family> ynef: Actually the device is caling itself SiS SI7012. Dunno why
[15:45] <pvl> has anyone got conky running?
[15:45] <LetterRip> Hi, after resizing and moving around partitions I'm getting an fsck error on reboot
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> OlMightyG: Quake4 by chance?
[15:45] <wols_> erefasdfsd: I asked you something
[15:45] <ynef> family: well, maybe you can figure out if others are having the same problem -- see what "lspci" is calling it (might be different from what you get via the mixer)
[15:45] <OlMightyG> no.. a movie
[15:45] <erefasdfsd> what??
[15:45] <LetterRip> i think my fstab is just incorrect now
[15:45] <erefasdfsd> what??
[15:45] <wols_> what card is it?
[15:45] <LetterRip> but i'm not sure how to update it with the correct information
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> x1250 ATI
[15:46] <wols_> fglrx
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> btw, aticonfig is not installed
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> what with that?
[15:46] <truna> nmb, i understand you are not running dhcp, im just saying in vmware it has a directory to start scripts for networking and I would say Xen have something similar, maybe it even has a session cache you can clear?
[15:46] <family> ynef: 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> should i type fglrx in console
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> what after i type it
[15:47] <lakcaj> LetterRip, so you can't boot at all?  Boot a livecd, mount the partition that has the fstab file in it, and change it.  Don't forget to umount when done.
[15:47] <ynef> family: well, shoot. :-( so, no others are having that problem, right?
[15:47] <LetterRip> lakcaj no i can boot fine
[15:47] <Pici> !who
[15:47] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:47] <roentgen> How could I make a shortcut to launch "telnet ip port" in gnome-terminal?
[15:47] <family> ynef: Not sure. was curious if it was a common problem
[15:47] <LetterRip> lakcaj it just thinks that there is an error
[15:47] <erefasdfsd> should i type fglrx in console
[15:47] <erefasdfsd> what after i type it
[15:47] <family> ynef: I'm not even sure where to begin troubleshooting
[15:48] <LetterRip> the start point of the boot partition is correct
[15:48] <soundray> OlMightyG: make sure that your user has the necessary privilege to "use CD-ROM drives" (System-Admin-Users and Groups)
[15:48] <LetterRip> but i changed all of the others
[15:49] <LetterRip> lakcaj i need to find directions on how to find the info i need to update my fstab correctly
[15:49] <cornixx> oh my, why can it be so hard to set up dual-head with ati... Under windows it works just fine... I've been trying it for 2 days now. aticonfig crashing on me doesn't help either
[15:49] <truna> roentgen, you can always create a script in your home dir and then call it by its name or create an alias command for it  in .bashrc
[15:49] <nmb> truna: I was thinking more along the lines of the persistent networking stuff that runs from udev.  Any ideas about that?
[15:49] <cornixx> !help
[15:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:49] <soundray> roentgen: gnome-terminal -e 'telnet ip port'
[15:49] <lakcaj> LetterRip, try man fstab maybe?
[15:50] <roentgen> soundray: the -e part looks interesting :)
[15:50] <truna> nmb not too much yet about using udev, am still learning the udev rules and such
[15:50] <nmb> truna: me too.  thanks, though
[15:50] <soundray> roentgen: I looked at it again and I can't see what you mean...
[15:50] <ynef> family: check with lsmod to see which module the soundcard is using, then, using that info, hit google and possibly alsa-project.org and see if you can get further info
[15:51] <roentgen> soundray: as in: just what I need
[15:51] <soundray> roentgen: that and a lead apron :)
[15:51] <bobbob1016> How can I get my phone to show up in the Bluetooth config, without making it visible to all?  I have my phone set to hidden in it's bluetooth settings, and I paired it with my Ubuntu, but when I go to browse, the phone only shows up if it isn't hidden.  I thought it would show up if it was paired+hidden.
[15:52] <roentgen> soundray: ah, it isn't working, let's see how to make a script now :P
[15:52] <greedo> hi
[15:52] <r-wolf> there was gnome community repo mentioned here, wouldn't you tell me the url? I can't find it
[15:52] <epifanio> hi, anyone can suggest me the xorg.conf to use with a nvidea gforce 8500 gt 512 ?
[15:52] <pteague_work> i've connected my hp laserjet 1020 to a usb port & ubuntu detected it... i've yet to actually be able to print to it... i even went through & installed it as a new printer
[15:52] <rexy> bobbob1016: to connect you have to know the mac, so either you have to specify or set your phone viseable and pair with it, then you can set it to hidden again
[15:53] <soundray> roentgen: it works here. Did you use the 'single quotes'?
[15:53] <greedo> can i put 2 gpu devices in my xorg.conf so that one is used when i boot straight from the hard drive, and another is used when i boot through vmware ???
[15:53] <rexy> bobbob1016: misread, it doesnt have to be set to visible to communicate when paired
[15:53] <erefasdfsd> fglrx doesnt  work
[15:53] <erefasdfsd> fglrx doesnt  work
[15:53] <erefasdfsd> command not found!
[15:53] <rexy> erefasdfsd: dont repeat yourself, check the ati page to see if your card is supported
[15:53] <soundray> erefasdfsd: it could be your monitor. What type do you have?
[15:54] <erefasdfsd> i am on laptop
[15:54] <Pici> erefasdfsd: What kind?
[15:54] <roentgen> soundray: with quotes something just flashes by
[15:54] <bobbob1016> rexy, I did that, that is how I paired.  Well actually, on second thought, I had Ubuntu unhidden, and the phone was.  I guess the mac id isn't sent in the transmission, it didn't occur to me.  I unhid the phone, and now it shows up.  I feel stupid, thanks for the help.
[15:54] <soundray> erefasdfsd: what did you enter for horizontal sync and vertical refresh?
[15:54] <erefasdfsd> compaq 6715s HP, ati x1250 graphics
[15:54] <r-wolf> erefasdfsd: have you done "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[15:54] <rexy> greedo: doesnt work that way, you can use the second card to drive more monitors
[15:54] <truna> pteague_work, have you configured it via a web browser  localhost:631  and you may have to enable password via  lppasswd
[15:55] <erefasdfsd> yes, wolf, i alway get same error
[15:55] <rexy> bobbob1016: neither the computer or phone has to be visiable to communicate once they know each other
[15:55] <erefasdfsd> No screen found!!!
[15:55] <greedo> rexy: oh :(
[15:55] <rexy> erefasdfsd: try using the ati / radeon driver
[15:55] <soundray> roentgen: I assume you're entering an actual IP address and port number?
[15:55] <erefasdfsd> i did
[15:55] <family> ynef: Found a new error.
[15:55] <Pici> erefasdfsd: or "sudo restricted-manager --enable=fglrx"
[15:55] <erefasdfsd> doesnt work
[15:55] <roentgen> soundray: yeah :P
[15:56] <r-wolf> i'd suggest vesa driver at first
[15:56] <erefasdfsd> pici, command fglrx is not found
[15:56] <rexy> greedo: it's a vm you cant directly give access to the card i think, you can run vm on another monitor driven by the second gpu just fine though
[15:56] <greedo> rexy: in fact, when i boot my ubuntu through vmware, not only gdm doesn't start, but after than xorg.conf is messed with failsafe settings. and when i boot it back from the hard drive, it keeps being messed up :(
[15:56] <LetterRip> lakcaj wasn't any help
[15:56] <cliebow> erefasdfsd, of course you tried dpkg-reconfigure
[15:56] <roentgen> soundray: this is the command gnome-terminal -e 'telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 3333'
[15:56] <soundray> roentgen: does it work if you run telnet in an existing terminal?
[15:56] <LetterRip> if i  do a search something called fstab-sync supposedly auto creates it
[15:56] <bobbob1016> rexy, I know, I guess since the PC was unhidden, and the phone was during the pairing, the phone had my PC's mac, but the PC didn't have the phone's.  Pretty smart though, how the PC picked it up and saved it once I turned the phone to unhidden then back again.
[15:56] <Pici> erefasdfsd: You did: "sudo restricted-manager --enable=fglrx" ?
[15:56] <roentgen> soundray: yes
[15:56] <robdeman> fols if I only want some pop3 boxes on my ubuntu machine, do I need to set up MX DNS records? or is this just for SMTP?
[15:56] <erefasdfsd> nope i didnt pici
[15:56] <LetterRip> but apt i don't find such a piece of software
[15:56] <greedo> rexy: what i want is boot the same ubuntu install either from multiboot or through vmware fusion - just for the sake of flexibility
[15:56] <bobbob1016> rexy, and the phone was hidden*
[15:57] <rexy> greedo: did you install ubuntu in vmware or did you just boot an existing installation through vmware
[15:57] <LetterRip> nor does trying to run such work
[15:57] <erefasdfsd> but i tried fglrx command alone, and it's not found
[15:57] <family> ynef: System > Pref > Sounds, when i try to test sounds i get 'failed to contruct test pipeline for 'gconfausiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[15:57] <endo> anyone know where I can get a version of Amarok that supports libgpod 0.6.0?
[15:57] <greedo> rexy: i tried both ways
[15:57] <Pici> erefasdfsd: Because thats not a command.
[15:57] <erefasdfsd> ok
[15:57] <erefasdfsd> lol
[15:57] <pteague_work> truna> i configured it via the printer panel under system -> administration -> printing (both printing icons)
[15:57] <erefasdfsd> ill try it  and come back
[15:57] <greedo> rexy: but the new xorg hardware profile (or what seems to be hardware profile) just doesn't work
[15:57] <ynef> family: really strange.... you said this was an update, not a fresh install of gutsy?
[15:57] <rexy> greedo: if you boot an existing installation in vmware the video driver will be wrong probably
[15:57] <greedo> rexy: it's not capable of using the resolution of my mac book pro laptop monitor
[15:57] <greedo> etc
[15:57] <pteague_work> all 3 show up on localhost:631/printers
[15:58] <greedo> rexy: however, when installed from the desktop  cd, it just works
[15:58] <ynef> family: upgrade, even
[15:58] <truna> pteague_work, now this time do a test print from that cups configure page
[15:58] <soundray> roentgen: I just tried the same (literal) command here (with no <IP_ADDRESS> on my network). It says "Trying <IP_ADDRESS>" for two seconds, then the terminal closes.
[15:58] <family> ynef: right. and i know there are problems associated with upgrades, but it's a little.... better
[15:58] <LetterRip> lakcaj may have found the solution
[15:58] <family> ynef: rather than have to transfer all the files necessary after I'd jhave a fresh install
[15:59] <soundray> roentgen: do you want to make a launcher for the desktop or panel?
[15:59] <pteague_work> truna> which device uri should i be using?  usb://HP/LaserJet%201020 or hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_1020?serial=JL521VG ?
[15:59] <roentgen> soundray: will try harder then :P. Thanks for the help
[15:59] <roentgen> soundray: for the desktop now
[15:59] <truna> pteague_work, i dont know off hand, can you try both, one at a time off course
[15:59] <roentgen> soundray: does it matter
[15:59] <roentgen> ?
[16:00] <soundray> roentgen: no. I should have asked "Are you trying to make a launcher".
[16:00] <methods> is there no tool that can work together with network manager to to provide profiles for firewall configs ?
[16:00] <soundray> roentgen: things changed a bit between feisty and gutsy. Which do you have?
[16:00] <pteague_work> truna> ran print job on both, both show up in the printing queue... finally disappeared off the hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_1020?serial=JL521VG uri, still nothing printed
[16:00] <lakcaj> LetterRip, sorry I couldn't be more help
[16:00] <pteague_work> usb://HP/LaserJet%201020 still has the print job listed
[16:00] <roentgen> soundray: gutsy
[16:01] <truna> pteague_work, does the printer have to correct ppd drivers loaded? you have to play around with ppd filters/drivers to match as close as possible for your printer
[16:01] <soundray> roentgen: did you try entering just "telnet <IP_ADDRESS>" under Command and selecting "Application in Terminal" from the drop-down list?
[16:02] <pteague_work> truna> both have "Printer Driver: HP LaserJet 1020 Foomatic/foo2zjs (recommended)"
[16:02] <soundray> roentgen: I forgot to add the 3333, you know what I mean
[16:02] <truna> pteague_work, umm is it obvious the printer is powered up right? sometimes we forget..
[16:02] <pteague_work> & googling for that printer comes up with the foo2zjs as the right driver
[16:02] <pteague_work> yeah, it's turned on & has paper in it
[16:03] <Sonja> how do i customize the little weather thingy on the panel to display "feels like" besides the actual temperature?
[16:03] <roentgen> soundray: that's how I did it the first time but it didn't work. I don't have a dropdown with 'app in terminal' AFAIKS
[16:03] <truna> pteague_work, any of the printer buttons you can manipulate to do a test print from its front panel?
[16:04] <roentgen> soundray: lol I saw the dropdown now
[16:04] <soundray> roentgen: well hidden :)
[16:04] <pteague_work> truna> there's 2 lights (the green is lit, the other isn't) & no buttons
[16:05] <erefasdfsd> PICI: i got lot of thesse "No NVIDIA hardware available" #debug, and as a sugar on the end i got Segmentation Fault
[16:05] <truna> pteague_work, then try the old lpc or lpstat if any of those gives good status
[16:05] <truna> pteague_work, what kind of printer is that with no buttons, not even to turn it off? heh
[16:05] <erefasdfsd> PICI: i got lot of thesse "No NVIDIA hardware available" #debug, and as a sugar on the end i got Segmentation Fault
[16:05] <roentgen> soundray: man gnome-terminal coming right up :P
[16:06] <Dr_Evil> Hi, I want to execute a "chmod 0777 /dev/sda9" after system start, which would be the correct file to add this (without the need to type the root password)
[16:06] <Dr_willis> Dr_Evil,  could toss that in rc.local
[16:06] <ikonia> Dr_Evil: you don't change teh device file
[16:06] <Sonja> how do i customize the little weather thingy on the panel to display "feels like" besides the actual temperature?
[16:06] <Dr_willis> but its odd. that you are chmoding a device file.
[16:06] <erefasdfsd> PICI: i got lot of thesse "No NVIDIA hardware available" #debug, and as a sugar on the end i got Segmentation Fault
[16:06] <pteague_work> truna> oh, it has an on/off switch on the back, but that's it
[16:06]  * Dr_willis agrees with ikonia
[16:07] <Dr_Evil> Dr_willis thanks
[16:07] <Dr_willis> Dr_Evil,  what filesystem is on the device you are mounting?
[16:07] <pteague_work> hmm... not even sure how to check using lpstat... lpstat -h localhost:usb ?
[16:07] <erefasdfsd> so no more ideas, i can delete ubuntu???
[16:07] <Dr_willis> Dr_Evil,  because chmoding the dev entry is totally the wrong way to set the permissions.
[16:07] <Dr_Evil> Dr_willis I'm developing an os and want to write to that partition from a userlevel script
[16:08] <truna> pteague_work, maybe it is hidden inside a panel? there got to be a way to unjamm it, a user has to be able to press feed paper or something
[16:08] <wols_> erefasdfsd: you have a ATI card, why would nvidia drivers work?
[16:08] <Dr_willis> Dr_Evil,  Hmm... ok.. good luck..  I suggest you put your OS on hold and work out how the OS works first
[16:10] <erefasdfsd> i got lot of thesse "No NVIDIA hardware available" #debug, and as a sugar on the end i got Segmentation Fault
[16:10] <erefasdfsd> it is graphic card problem
[16:11] <wols_> erefasdfsd: for the LAST time, you will need the fglrx driver. NOT any nvidia driver
[16:11] <Dr_willis> a user could be using a 'file' as a test device for writing to. and not using a real device. also.
[16:11] <erefasdfsd> and famous linux hardware recognition
[16:11] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: why are you using nvidia when you have an ati card
[16:11] <erefasdfsd> where can i get fglrx driver, and how to install it please
[16:11] <wols_> erefasdfsd: ubuntu didn't install nvidia drivers on its own
[16:11] <ikonia> !ops
[16:11] <wols_> !ati | erefasdfsd
[16:11] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[16:11] <ubotu> erefasdfsd: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:11] <ikonia> !!opps | erefasdfsd trolling
[16:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:11] <andres_22> hello. why i cant change de own of a ntfs partition?
[16:11] <erefasdfsd> ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run I DOWNLOADED THIS ONE
[16:11] <ikonia> wols_: enough now, this has gone on long enough
[16:12] <Rost> Ãàíäîíû!
[16:12] <Myrtti> ikonia: huh
[16:12] <Mez> !botabuse | ikonia
[16:12] <ubotu> ikonia: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:12] <Rost> Fuk YOU
[16:12] <shashwat> Hi all my frnd has BioStar Tforce 550 - ALC861 onboard audio chip and he is not getting any sound ? any help ?
[16:12] <erefasdfsd> ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run I DOWNLOADED THIS ONE
[16:12] <ppatzt> hi ... i want to program a little in C and have gcc _and_ the build-essential installed ... after doin  "gcc -c file.c" it gives me a file.o output but the output is no executable file ... i dont have a clue!!
[16:12] <Mez> too quick for me Sevease
[16:12] <Mez> !repeat | erefasdfsd
[16:12] <ubotu> erefasdfsd: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:13] <pteague_work> truna> same, i didn't even order it...  just ended up with something i need to print out for boss (he has a hard time even figuring out email)...
[16:13] <Mez> !caps | erefasdfsd
[16:13] <ubotu> erefasdfsd: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[16:13] <shashwat> Hi Guys my friend has got BioStar Tforce 550 -with  ALC861 onboard audio but he is not getting any audio output ?
[16:13] <ikonia> Mez: are in in -op
[16:13] <truna> ppatzt, gcc -o fileexecutable -c hello.c
[16:13] <andres_22> hello. how i can change de own of a ntfs partition? i try whith chown but didnt work
[16:13] <Myrtti> andres_22: basically, you don't, use mount options
[16:13] <truna> pteague_work, i bet its only printing in Chinese Caligraphy too? lol
[16:14] <pteague_work> lol
[16:14] <ppatzt> truna: bash: ./hello.o: cannot execute binary file
[16:14] <Seveas> andres_22, ntfs doesn't understand linux permissions. You need to set permissions when mounting
[16:14] <mpav_> Is there a doc on how to upgrade from Ubuntu desktop to Ubuntu server?
[16:14] <andres_22> how seveas?
[16:14] <Seveas> mpav_, apt-get install linux-server
[16:14] <piglit> can i please ask some questions?(1)has Ubuntu got a firewall standard installed? (2) where can i find the logfile ?
[16:14] <truna> ppatzt, why hello.o  use a regular file name without extension
[16:14] <Seveas> mpav_, that installs the server kernel, other than that there are no differences
[16:15] <mpav_> Seveas: do i need to uninstall other packages?
[16:15] <Dr_willis> !firewall | piglit
[16:15] <ubotu> piglit: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:15] <rsa> Hey i cant get my remote to work on my install.. i installed lirc wih the correct module but its not responding to my remote
[16:15] <Seveas> mpav_, if you want
[16:15] <ezquerro> hi to everybody
[16:15] <mpav_> Seveas: thanks
[16:15] <truna> pteague_work, umm i dont know where else to look, look maybe in /var/adm or /var/share for the cups queue
[16:15] <shashwat> Hi Guys my friend has got BioStar Tforce 550 -with  ALC861 onboard audio but he is not getting any audio output ?
[16:15] <ezquerro> i have uninstaled compiz and xgl and now my gnome doesn't have title bars
[16:15] <shashwat> please help
[16:15] <ezquerro> and i don't know how to enable them again
[16:16] <kane77> ppatzt, if you want executable why you use -c option?
[16:16] <Seveas> ezquerro, metacity --replace
[16:16] <kitche> ezquerro: metacity --replace & in a terminal
[16:16] <truna> pteague_work, since its a usb, i guess cable is okay, try to plug and unplug..see if anything make a difference
[16:16] <pteague_work> k
[16:16] <andres_22> how can i mount a ntfs partition, but the own doesnt be root?
[16:16] <chazco> Does anyone know how to disable subtitles by default in Totem?
[16:16] <shashwat> use ntfs-config
[16:16] <ezquerro> thanks Seveas and kitche
[16:16] <Dr_willis> andres_22,  with the proper options to mount.
[16:17] <Dr_willis> andres_22,  ntfs-3g filesystem is normally used. example fstab entry is --> /dev/hda5 /media/winstorage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[16:17] <ppatzt> kane77, thx .. i dont have clue y i used -c option ... *?* ... whatever it works
[16:17] <kane77> ppatzt, -c means compile but won't link the files...
[16:18] <ppatzt> kane77, ic ... rtfm ^^ ...
[16:18] <andres_22> ok
[16:18] <kane77> ppatzt, use only gcc source.c -o executable
[16:18] <crashev> anyonw owns a soundcard - Creative SB Live! 24-bit Ext/USB - and managed to get control over all 5 channels ?
[16:18] <rsa> Hey i cant get my remote to work on my install.. i installed lirc wih the correct module but its not responding to my remote
[16:18] <Dr_willis> crashev,  for my internal SB live cards - I have to use the alsamixer or alsamixergui tool to enable the rear channels that then mirror the front ones.
[16:19] <rsa> Hey i cant get my remote to work on my install.. i installed lirc wih the correct module but its not responding to my remote
[16:19] <Dr_willis> !lirc
[16:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:19] <rsa> Dr_willis: i read that
[16:19] <truna> rsa what is lirc?
[16:20] <chazco> rsa - Is it a DVB remote?
[16:20] <crashev> Dr_willis: actually channels works ok, the test with speaker-test works ok and I can watch movies in 5.1 mode for example with mplayer using -channels 6 option ,the problem is that in alsamixer I got only one channel to control called PCM and thats all
[16:20] <Myrtti> linux infra red devices etc
[16:20] <Myrtti> s/devices/control/
[16:20] <Dr_willis> crashev,  odd.. In alsamixer on my internal cards - i must have 40+ channels. :)
[16:21] <truna> chazco, you're the guy developing that infra red driver? how is that coming?
[16:21] <mavez> yes
[16:21] <chazco> I only modified keycodes... works fine, can control most of my PC by remote now though
[16:21] <olaff> can i define a differnt source for apt-get install build-essential?? im doing it remotely and it wants the cd.... :¬S
[16:22] <chazco> rsa - If it is a DVB remote (e.g. Hauupage) then build and install the latest v4l-dvb modules... these have more support built in
[16:22] <kitche> olaff: you have to remove the apt-cdrom from your sources.list
[16:22] <malocite> does anyone know if there is a new open source driver for the radeon 9000?  I know ati is releasing source code, I Was just wondering if there was a new driver for my old card yet
[16:22] <olaff> ahh, thanks kitche: where is that located?
[16:22] <kitche> olaff: /etc/apt/
[16:22] <olaff> thanks!
[16:23] <HardDisk> malocite, no.
[16:23] <malocite> HardDisk: Thanks, figured as much :)
[16:23] <fromvega> Hello, I've tried to update openoffice.org through synaptic but during the proccess it said something about package conflict and now the openoffice icons from gnome menu were gone! I have tried to remove and install openoffice again but the icons didn't show up. Do you know how to fix this? Tks!
[16:23] <erUSUL> malocite: for your card your better option is the existing "radeon" driver or "ati"
[16:23] <GNU\colossus> is there a ncurses tool for reconfiguring network interfaces?
[16:24] <rsa> chazco: well i have a supported Microsoft controller something
[16:24] <malocite> HardDisk: When I do the tests under cedega it tells me everything works accept 3d acceleration
[16:24] <Sonja> how do i get the weather display on the panel to show "feels like" besides the actual temperature?
[16:24] <olaff> nice one kitche, worked :)
[16:24] <alcoholic> lol
[16:24] <rsa> chazco: its a phillips universal remote..
[16:24] <pvl> what i waste of time
[16:24] <Seveas> squeek...
[16:24] <malocite> :)  Ok :)
[16:24] <mavez> lol
[16:24] <Sonja> lulz @ dj-sqeek
[16:24] <go|dfish> WTF?
[16:24] <chazco> Hmm... may be trickier then... lirc is notoriously tricky to setup if its not a standard remote
[16:24] <mavez> ROFL
[16:25] <Casey> that was cute
[16:25] <Borbus> That's dj-squeeks highlight of the week
[16:25] <DG19075> lol
[16:25] <Seveas> pa-dam-pam-ching
[16:25] <malocite> mavez: Damn it, now microsoft owns ubuntu too....  thats about as official an announcement that i need :)
[16:25] <evgeni> hi, I installed ubuntu desktop version, but I really need to host a website on this machine, what server/hosting applications would you recommend to get?
[16:25] <mavez> oh yes
[16:25] <Borbus> Yeah I mean... it's a notice
[16:25] <rsa> chazco: well i also have a Xbox 360 remote and the phillips one can change itself to act like any remote :D
[16:25] <chazco> evgeni - look at lamp
[16:25] <Borbus> Well we may as well all /part then
[16:25] <chazco> !lamp > evgeni
[16:25] <Seveas> evgeni, apache2
[16:25] <mavez> good game
[16:25] <malocite> whats the command to see which driver your video card is using currently?
[16:26] <nomic> anyone know how i run a session without X?  I need a text root
[16:26] <evgeni> so lamp or apache2?
[16:26] <rsa> chazco: the main problem is that when i start irw its not picking up any of my keystrokes
[16:26] <malocite> nomic: Did you try ctrl alt f2?
[16:26] <nomic> ok will try
[16:26] <Borbus> malocite, in ubuntu you can do system > administration > screen and graphics
[16:26] <nomic> ty
[16:27] <chazco> rsa - Mine neither... in the end if just modifed v4l-dvb (which handles my remote) and got it working
[16:27] <Seveas> malocite, look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:27] <Borbus> nomic, su - root in a terminal should have the same effect
[16:27] <r-wolf> evgeni: lamp = Linux+Apache+MySQL+Perl
[16:27] <evgeni> oh sweet!
[16:27] <evgeni> so it's all in one
[16:27] <rsa> chazco: huh.. i dont understand. Irrecord did recieve input but irw didnt
[16:27] <DG19075> anyone who does that is eithe immature and/or has too much time on his/her hands
[16:27] <chazco> evgeni - Lamp is eaisiest to install (use tasksel)
[16:28] <chazco> !lamp | evgeni
[16:28] <ubotu> evgeni: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[16:28] <malocite> seveas: it says fglrx is that the official driver or the open source
[16:28] <Borbus> Or more often than not, PHP instead of Perl
[16:28] <DG19075> referriing to dj squeek
[16:28] <r-wolf> k, perl or php or python
[16:28] <Seveas> malocite, the closed-source driver from amd
[16:28] <evgeni> very awesome, thanks so much guys/gals
[16:28] <chazco> rsa - Do any keys work already... it may be one that acts like a keyboard, which is tricky for lirc
[16:28] <Seveas> r-wolf, or puby
[16:28] <r-wolf> :)
[16:28] <rsa> chazco: urm niether on my 360 or universal remote work
[16:28] <Seveas> could also be mostgrs instead of mysql
[16:28] <malocite> seveas: Hmm... isn't that one supposed to support 3dacceleration?
[16:29] <Seveas> malocite, yes
[16:29] <rsa> ive loaded the mceusb module which is the correct one for my reciever..
[16:29] <rsa> but the reciever still doesnt want to pick up any signals or something else is wrong
[16:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How can I generate an asound.conf and .asoundrc in Gutsy?
[16:30] <Seveas> Biscuitian_Warhe, with any text editor
[16:31] <sasha_> hi guys
[16:31] <robdeman> folks: Webmin and some kind of webmail... any idea?
[16:31] <Seveas> Biscuitian_Warhe, not that you rarely need one
[16:31] <Seveas> robdeman, replace webmin with ebox and use horde or squirrelmail
[16:31] <ikonia> robdeman: webmin - don't use it, webmail squirrelmail, horde, squaremail, sqwebmail
[16:31] <sasha_> i-ve some problems to setting up my nvidea hardware
[16:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Seveas: Yes, well aplay -L reports I have surround sound capabilities, however Gnome nor Alsamixer or anything reports this
[16:32] <robdeman> Seveas: webmin not use it? why is that?
[16:32] <rsa> chazco: irkick pick up when i start and stop lirc..
[16:32] <Speedbird787> screen resolution problem... anyone willing to help ?
[16:32] <Seveas> robdeman, because it's rather unsafe
[16:32] <robdeman> Seveas: really? im using it iver a tunneled SSH connection?
[16:32] <sasha_> i-ve installed the nvidea driver according to its instructions
[16:32] <Seveas> robdeman, debian and ubuntu removed it from their repos mainly due to it being a security issue. That's a big red flag for me
[16:33] <robdeman> Seveas: ehrm damn
[16:33] <Seveas> robdeman, that makes it safer already, but you should imho still consider using ebox :)
[16:33] <robdeman> Seveas: is it also unsafe when port 10000 is not available for anybody but them who tunnel over ssh?
[16:33] <robdeman> Seveas: I just looked ebox up -- looks really sophisticated
[16:33] <robdeman> Seveas: Im just now stuck to Webmin :-/ will check and replac ethat later I guess
[16:33] <Seveas> robdeman, it's less unsafe but I still don't trust it
[16:35] <Aquahallic> mornin' folks
[16:35] <dexem> robdeman: and ebox guys are really kind with users... O:-)
[16:35] <Matir> Anyone else having trouble getting to the community docs?
[16:36] <adamonline45> Hello everyone.  A couple nights ago I set up DHCP on one linux box, and most of my machines are goin' good.  However, one in parrticular insists on renewing via dhcp, even though its /etc/network/interfaces file defines it as being static.  I have a similar interfaces file on my other server, and it seems to be working fine...  Does anyone know how to stop it from renewing its IP address via DHCP?
[16:36] <Aquahallic> I have an nvidia geforce mx 440 se... and am having some problems getting the correct drivers installed
[16:36] <different_realit> What's the equivalent program in ubuntu for shoutcast for web radio ?
[16:37] <HardDisk> icecast.
[16:37] <different_realit> tnx :)
[16:37] <HardDisk> and there is shoutcast for linux
[16:37] <HardDisk> it's in the shoutcast website
[16:37] <different_realit> oh :)
[16:37] <Aquahallic> if I do an apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy it goes through and installs but then I get a GLX missing error from X
[16:37] <HardDisk> if you just want to listen to shoutcast streams, install streamtuner
[16:37] <Aquahallic> anyone have any exprience with this???
[16:38] <adamonline45> !screen
[16:38] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[16:38] <different_realit> HardDisk thank u :)
[16:38] <n3u> hi everyone ..., i need ur help. why my GUI network adapter can't work normally, i can put static IP Address, couse the configuration like 'Not Responding' each i open it. thanks before.
[16:39]  * rsa is looking for a LIRC GURU
[16:39] <n3u> Mistake : sorry , i can't put the static IP Address ..
[16:40] <sasha_> installing the nvidea driver i'm able to have the advanced desktop effect
[16:40] <nownot> looking to see if anyone know about a irc clint that is text based b/c i have no gui on ubuntu server
[16:40] <sasha_> but now
[16:40] <rsa> nownot: IRSSI..
[16:40] <cliebow> irssi
[16:40] <rsa> nownot: best irc client.. ever
[16:40] <sasha_> the fonts (text string) are not well readable :-(
[16:40]  * rsa NEEDS LIRC GURU
[16:41] <robdeman> how do I install ebox on Ubuntu 6.10?
[16:41] <adamonline45> Does anyone feel like walking me through a 'screen' session?  i want to detatchably run an interactive console-based daemon on one machine, from another, with the option to reconnect :)
[16:41] <sasha_> all the text on my desktop are really ugly :-( can i set it in the xorg.conf ?
[16:42] <sasha_> maybe can i paste it , to see if something is wrong ?
[16:42] <adp> hi. when I start xsane it coredumps right after a window that says 'scanning for devices'. It didn't used to do this.
[16:42] <adp> how can I fix it?
[16:42] <adp> using ubunti 7.04
[16:43] <bmoney> !dvd
[16:43] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:44] <kinroad> after upgrading to gutsy the menu texts in firefox have been in very small font. How can I fix that?
[16:44] <malocite> which driver is better to use for an ati 9000?  The open source or the fglrx (closed source)  - I'm trying to see which is better for playing 3d games
[16:45] <nownot> in irssi how do i leave a channel?
[16:45] <kitche> malakhi: fglrx if you want 3d support
[16:45] <Juhaz> /part
[16:45] <malocite> kitche: so the open source doesnt do 3d right now then... thanks
[16:45] <nownott> awesome
[16:46] <nownott> ok well is there a way to have multiple channels open at once?
[16:46] <bmoney> !dvd
[16:46] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:46] <kitche> malocite: it will never do 3d for the ati driver the radeonhd will but for the 9000 series it won't since radeonhd is for the newer cards
[16:46] <greedo> what could be the reason: when i boot ubuntu with my wacom graphire plugged - it works smoothly (absolute mode etc). BUT when i plug it after having booted, it's fucked up :(
[16:46] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. i need to switch the java versieion i'm using (currently GCJ) need to switch to sun or some such,, how do i change it,, tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure java" and it says "java" isn't the right package name,, what is the package name?
[16:47] <Dr_willis> NET||abuse,  i recall the proper command to use being at the !java factoid page.
[16:47] <Dr_willis> !java
[16:47] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[16:47]  * Dr_willis looks
[16:47] <dexem> robdeman: It's difficult for Ubuntu 6.10, but you can try on #ebox or http://forum.eboxplatform.com/
[16:47] <sentano> Thanks to ikonia I have just managed to create a separate /home partition using aysiu's excellent guide http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome , a big thanks to all the powerful knowledge you forum-people give to newbies like me :)
[16:48] <NET||abuse> Dr_willis, I've install the sun-java6-jre but it still points to GCJ
[16:48] <Dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[16:48] <NET||abuse> Dr_willis, ahhh, thanks
[16:48] <Dr_willis> I think thats what ya want NET||abuse
[16:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[16:48] <Dr_willis> and no - i never have figured out the update-alternatives system :)
[16:49] <Dr_willis> or how it relates to the dpkg-reconfigure stuff..  guess its 2 similer ways of setting defaults for things.
[16:49] <freeshellplz> hi
[16:49] <NET||abuse> Dr_willis, yup,, ok ,see if aptana will work now ;) thanks
[16:49] <freeshellplz> hi
[16:49] <n3u> hi everyone ..., i need ur help. why my GUI network adapter can't work normally, i can't put static IP Address, couse the configuration like 'Not Responding' each i open it. thanks before.
[16:49] <freeshellplz> help me!
[16:49] <LetterRip> hi anyone here who could suggest where to look for a list of mount points?
[16:50] <leitao> hello, is there a way to install a group of package (using apt) that gives me most of the development packages (automake, gcc, glibc-dev, etc)?
[16:50] <bmoney> where do you get the codec to play dvds
[16:50] <endo> does anyone know how I can update my programs (amarok, banshee, rythembox) to use libgpod 0.6.0?
[16:50] <maarten_> Hi I have a question about reporting bugs on http://bugs.launchpad.net
[16:50] <sandr-> freeshellplz, just type your question and maybe people answer
[16:50] <miNickEsNick> n3u... the GUI network is a piece of shit
[16:50] <leitao> I am aware that yum has a groupinstall Development Tools. Is there anything similar?
[16:50] <scguy318> !dvd | bmoney
[16:50] <kitche> leitao: build-essentials
[16:50] <ubotu> bmoney: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:50] <Cromag> !essentials
[16:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essentials - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:50] <LetterRip> i have a mount point that i'd like to switch to mounting, and the sytem things there is a mount point that is non existant
[16:50] <Cromag> ye
[16:50] <endo> !libgpod
[16:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgpod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:50] <leitao> kitche: ok
[16:50] <bmoney> i read that scguy318... it doesnt find the package
[16:50] <scguy318> !medibuntu | bmoney
[16:50] <ubotu> bmoney: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:51] <bmoney> ty
[16:51] <scguy318> bmoney: this is what you need
[16:51] <Filled-Void> Will KDE 4.0 be available in the repos when it is released ? I dont have kde installed at the moment but if I installed it on my machine I would get KDE 3.5 . Could I upgrade this to 4? Id like to try KDE
[16:51] <freeshellplz> free shell plz !
[16:51] <freeshellplz> free shell plz !
[16:51] <miNickEsNick> n3u... sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> -> put static IP in the interface eth0
[16:51] <freeshellplz> free shell plz !
[16:51] <maarten_> When I try to logon to launchpad, I enter my username and password, click on continue, but then nothing happens!
[16:51] <leitao> kitche: how should I install it?
[16:51] <rocazul> holas
[16:51] <rocazul> alguien habla español
[16:51] <Myrtti> !es | rocazul
[16:51] <ubotu> rocazul: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:51] <freeshellplz> help me!
[16:51] <freeshellplz> help me!
[16:52] <miNickEsNick> n3u... sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> -> put the default gateway
[16:52] <rocazul> que es lo que necesitas
[16:52] <rocazul> que tipo de ayuda
[16:52] <rocazul> es
[16:52] <bascule> Filled-Void: don't go near 4 yet
[16:52] <freeshellplz> need free shell
[16:52] <PriceChild> !es | rocazul
[16:52] <ubotu> rocazul: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:52] <freeshellplz> need free shell
 what u mean ...? plizz help me
[16:52] <kitche> leitao: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:52] <freeshellplz> !es |chiz|
[16:52] <ubotu> chiz|: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:52] <kitche> !offtopic | freeshellplz
[16:52] <PriceChild> !offtopic | freeshellplz
[16:52] <ubotu> freeshellplz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:52] <Filled-Void> bascule, Thanks for the advice :D
[16:52] <fony> Hi.. I'm having some problems with connecting to the wireless network with my Ubuntu-laptop.. It's simply not connecting.
[16:52] <HardDisk> try to > instead of | we don't need floods in the room.
[16:53] <paradroid> Hi. This is probably less an Ubuntu question than a general *nix question, but anyway. What would be the proper command to copy a range of files that are numbered in an ascending manner, e. g. from 400 to 600, but I only want 483 to 574?
[16:53] <bascule> Filled-Void: welcome, give it 6 months, 4.0 is really just for devs to get stuff working and a platform release for fimiliarity purposes
[16:53] <Filled-Void> bascule, Ok :) I see theres lot of expectations about this release hence just anxious to try it out
[16:54] <kitche> HardDisk: you could just ignore ubotu if you don't like people using |
[16:54] <mugen> hi, someone knows how to join files that are split with hacha pro?
[16:54] <bascule> Filled-Void: there is a live cd released, search it out and try that
[16:55] <Filled-Void> bascule, thanks will check it out
[16:55] <_mug> hey
[16:55] <leitao> kitche: thanks
[16:55] <AJC_Z0> paradroid: See seq(1)
[16:55] <Dr_willis> paradroid,  You can use the find command and a regular expression to define  range. I belive.
[16:56] <LetterRip> or is there a simple way to GREP every file on my computer less than a certain size for the text 'XT Series'
[16:56] <_mug> just upgraded to gutsy and im totally impressed. a few compiz-errors, but ubuntu gets better and better :P
[16:56] <evgeni> i love ubuntu.... so uber easy and awesome
[16:56] <n3u> fony ..., you can configure with network GUI , tools-> administrator-> network
[16:56] <PurpZeY> LetterRip: I am walking into the middle of this but it sounds like beagle would do that
[16:57] <LetterRip> PurpZeY, does beagle have to pre index?
[16:57] <LetterRip> also i have very limited space on the drive i am using right now
[16:57] <n3u> miNickEsNick... thanks for u help ...
[16:57] <LetterRip> (500 megabyte or so...)
[16:57] <PurpZeY> LetterRip: No, it will index whatever you have and crawl while you work
[16:57] <paradroid> AJC_Z0: Dr_willis: Thank you.
[16:57] <nomic> ping
[16:58] <LetterRip> PurpZeY, okay - well i don't want it to index is the issue
[16:58] <PurpZeY> whyy?
[16:58] <AJC_Z0> paradroid: Welcome. seq(1) is one of those little-known magic tools in the box
[16:58] <LetterRip> because there is no space on the drive
[16:58] <miNickEsNick> n3u... can you connect with a static IP now?
[16:58] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: thank you
[16:58] <paradroid> AJC_Z0: Yep, at least in my case not anymore. ;)
[16:58] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Got it working?
[16:59] <nomic> i am trying to install a driver which needs to be run without X - I have used ctrl-alt-F2 to get into a user without X but it says I am running an X session where is the lock for this located?  Is there another way of getting into a session without X?
[16:59] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: thank you
[16:59] <LetterRip> a typical index will take about 1GB if my experience with windows and google indexes are anything to go by
[16:59] <HardDisk> kitche, it's not about not liking it, it is an option.
[16:59] <AJC_Z0> paradroid: Note that it's specific to Linux platforms. On FreeBSD there's jot(1)
[16:59] <nomic> anyone
[16:59] <kitche> HardDisk: my irssi has a script to do > but I m on mirc right now so I use my script
[17:00] <PurpZeY> LetterRip: Somehow that strikes me as bizarre
[17:00] <HardDisk> kitche, it's not about the script, ubotu picks it up.
[17:00] <HardDisk> it's part of the trigger.
[17:01] <kitche> HardDisk: I know , nvm you didmn't get wqhat I said
[17:01] <nownott> ok in irssi how do i close windows more specifically nickserv windows?
[17:01] <LetterRip> PurpZeY, I think i can pipe the output of a find by size to a grep
[17:01] <LetterRip> so that should do it
[17:01] <kitche> nownot: /query
[17:02] <kitche> nownot: for channel windows it's just /part
[17:02] <different_realit> if i install a previous versi0on of ubuntu can I just upgrade it to 7.10 ?
[17:02] <PurpZeY> LetterRip: You can do it that way -- I think
[17:02] <HardDisk> uhh /query initiates a chat.
[17:02] <nownott> kitche: can you answer a few more question i have?
[17:02] <PurpZeY> different_realit: Yes, but why?
[17:02] <HardDisk> he asked how to close.
[17:02] <kitche> HardDisk: /query as well closes it
[17:03] <HardDisk> then i've been away on irssi for too long
[17:03] <cwccie> hello, does anyone know how I can get an intel pro/1000 working in 7.10?
[17:03] <different_realit> PurpZeY well supposedly i have version 5.1 handy... i was thinking if i could just install it and then automatically upgrade... can u tell me how i can do it plz ?
[17:03] <nownott> how do i ignore part / join messages
[17:03] <kitche> HardDisk: /query nick does a query but /query by itself in the chat window closes the pm window
[17:04] <HardDisk> I should get back to irssi to see what else's been changed
[17:04] <PurpZeY> different_realit: You don't want to do that
[17:04] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: not exactly as before, but it's fine. The solution was: echo “SKIP_CHECKS=yes” > ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager, installing emerald and my decorator, compizconfig-settings-manager, and enabling effects
[17:04] <nownott> _/query nick initiates the chat with the user doesnt it? i just tried it and it worked
[17:04] <different_realit> PurpZeY why not ?
[17:04] <nownott> without the _
[17:04] <kitche> nownot: /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS should do it if not flip #ubuntu and the +JOINS +QUITS +PARTS around
[17:04] <PurpZeY> different_realit: Upgrade from 5.* ????
[17:05] <HardDisk> different_realit, no.
[17:05] <nownott> instead of doing it for #ubuntu is there a way to do it for all channels?
[17:05] <different_realit> PurpZeY at the moment i have 7.1 what happens when a newer version is created?
[17:05] <HardDisk> different_realit, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:05] <different_realit> thanks
[17:05] <kitche> nownot: hmm mayve a * for #ubuntu I usually do it by channel never really did a wildcard ignore for joins and parts
[17:05] <Hypergraphe> yo
[17:05] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Now I want to reinstall everything, putting most of steps into a script to amutomate the process. The reason to reinstall is that I don't feel "clear" about what I did, and to test this automation I'm planning to do with every new version of Ubuntu
[17:05] <peepsalot> my sister has a laptop with, IIRC, celeron 2.4Ghz and 256MB ram.  Can Ubuntu run on this?  She is having troubles installing from LiveCD
[17:06] <PriceChild> !alternate | peepsalot
[17:06] <PurpZeY> different_realit: For 7.4 and beyond you will get an auto-upgrade
[17:06] <ubotu> peepsalot: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[17:06] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: I'm gonna search for help about related questions now
[17:06] <different_realit> i c... :)
[17:06] <Arjun> hey every one ... is it ok if I post a short flood quick please dont wanna re write my entire question again
[17:06] <nownott> kitche = god of irssi!!!!!
[17:06] <mhiku> how to know the remaining of the harddisk?
[17:07] <peepsalot> PriceChild, do you think problem is that she doesn't have enough ram for the LiveCD?
[17:07] <PurpZeY> different_realit: Start from 5.10 is like starting with a Model-T and building a Corvette
[17:07] <PriceChild> peepsalot, indeed
[17:07] <HardDisk> peepsalot, could also be a videocard loading issue.
[17:07] <Arjun> I take that as we dont really care go ahaead
[17:07] <different_realit> PurpZeY heh ok.. i was just curious
[17:07] <HardDisk> but go with alternative.
[17:07] <Arjun>  hey every one
 MMMM
 ok well Ive just installed ubuntu for the first time and it has picked up my ethernet card
 it however doesnt wanna ping my router and can not b pinged from other pcs
 I can ping myself though
 anyhelp please kinda new to the whole linux thung
 really dont wanna go back to the evilness of satans os
 anyone thewre
[17:08] <PurpZeY> different_realit: If it is a fresh install, I wouldn't go that way, I can't imagine anyone would disagree with me
 there ??
 oops wrong channel
 bye
 #ubuntu
 argh
[17:08] <Javid> holy shit he pasted lines lynch him
[17:08] <Arjun> lol
[17:08] <HardDisk> Arjun, next time post it on one line
[17:08] <Pici> !language | Javid
[17:08] <ubotu> Javid: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:08] <Pici> !paste | Arjun
[17:08] <ubotu> Arjun: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:08] <Arjun> dudes I asked for permission please forgive me though
[17:08] <Javid> get the pitchforks, he pasted lines HE PASTED LINES
[17:08] <PurpZeY> Anyone find my analysis to be incorrect, for a  fresh install starting at 5.10 is a bad idea, with the intention of upgrading upwards?
[17:08] <HardDisk> you asked for permission, but you weren't given permission
[17:08] <Pici> Javid: Please stop.
[17:09] <HardDisk> PurpZeY, you're correct.
[17:09] <RenatoSilva> Hi people. I want to add a content to /etc/rc.local before the line "exit 0" through a shell script. If the content already exists, then nothing must be done. If the content is commented with one or more "#", then it must be uncommented. What's the better way? Is there a simple way?
[17:09] <HardDisk> PurpZeY, if he wanted to try the upgrade, at least he could install feisty, then upgrade to gutsy.
[17:09] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: If it's commented take out the #
[17:09] <PurpZeY> HardDisk: Yes, I agree to that certainly.
[17:09] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: it must be done through script
[17:10] <HardDisk> but nothign before feisty though.
[17:10] <HardDisk> nothing*
[17:10] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: BASH script is just a way of executing a series of commands
[17:10] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: currently I just edit the file manually
[17:10] <Dr_willis> Sounds like a job for some fancy perl coding.. :)
[17:10] <HardDisk> Dr_Evil, you mean python :)
[17:10] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: What is it you are trying to do?
[17:10] <Chousuke> RenatoSilva: doing it with bash will probably be too difficult
[17:10] <Dr_willis> RenatoSilva,  Perl is very good at doing jobs like that.
[17:10] <HardDisk> Dr_willis*
[17:10] <HardDisk> damn nick completers.
[17:10] <febe> ciao
[17:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:10] <febe> !list
[17:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:11] <RenatoSilva> Chousuke: :( jut like I thought
[17:11] <soulrider> my friend sais he cant install ebcause he apparently has a broken sector in his HD, is there any way to bypass this?
[17:11] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I missed something, what is it you are trying to do?
[17:11] <soulrider> his hd is about tod ie actually, and buying another one is not an option
[17:11] <Kasplatt> I can't get Flash plugin for firefox to work
[17:11] <peepsalot> HardDisk, PriceChild she had a dapper LiveCD, and it would load, but when she tried to start install procedure it would just freeze.  then she tried Gutsy LiveCD and can't even get into the LiveCD.  She sees random vertical lines or something.  So assuming the alternate install works, will it run very well on 256MB ram, and will she be able to boot up without messed up graphics?
[17:11] <HardDisk> soulrider, fix the bad sector.
[17:11] <soulrider> HardDisk, yeah, but how ?
[17:11] <Kasplatt> love left the room , hahaha
[17:11] <soulrider> fsck ?
[17:11] <HardDisk> peepsalot, yes.
[17:11] <PriceChild> peepsalot, should be "reasonable" on full install
[17:11] <RenatoSilva> Dr_willis: I thought about Ruby wich do same stuff as perl, but don't know how it could be done. How?
[17:12] <PurpZeY> soulrider: I read an article about super-heating harddrives to save data....oen time only though I thinks
[17:12] <HardDisk> soulrider, boot from a livecd, then fsck --help in terminal
[17:12] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Hi people. I want to add a content to /etc/rc.local before the line "exit 0" through a shell script. If the content already exists, then nothing must be done. If the content is commented with one or more "#", then it must be uncommented. What's the better way? Is there a simple way?
[17:12] <PriceChild> peepsalot, i've run it on 128mb before
[17:12] <HardDisk> soulrider, fsck is like chkdsk for linux
[17:12] <peepsalot> PriceChild, gnome?
[17:12] <PriceChild> peepsalot, yes
[17:12] <frosty> ok well copy and past for irrsi?
[17:12] <peepsalot> ok
[17:12] <PriceChild> peepsalot, i was just patient
[17:12] <peepsalot> hehe
[17:12] <HardDisk> peepsalot, the alternative cd is only a text based installer.
[17:12] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: So, when that script runs, you want to know if it ran the command X, and if it didn't you want it to?
[17:12] <HardDisk> peepsalot, but it will install gnome for you.
[17:12] <PriceChild> peepsalot, for normal use i put fluxbox on
[17:12] <akira46> Hi, i would like to modify /proc/sys/kernel/osrelease, to have a (fake) different version of my kernel, in my chroot, you think it's possible ? (actually, this file is write protected)
[17:13] <HardDisk> peepsalot, you could also try xubuntu, which is a lighter flavor.
[17:13] <akira46> Anyone can help me ?
[17:13] <Kasplatt> peepsalot: xubuntu is nice
[17:13] <PirateHead> !anyone | akira46
[17:13] <ubotu> akira46: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:13] <peepsalot> yeah, i might suggest xubuntu to her.  i've used it before.
[17:13] <soulrider> HardDisk, my frind is halways around the country IMing me form his cell :P
[17:13] <kaka> rjrjjes
[17:13] <wild_oscar> can anyone help me figure out why my 5.1 configuration does not work?
[17:13] <wild_oscar> I can hear the 6 speakers with
[17:13] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: the content is "modprobe martian_dev && martian_modem --daemon "
[17:13] <Arjun> ok guys seriously now is there anyone out there that could give me some advice on how to get my ubuntu pc to connect to my router
[17:13] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Or you want it to run that command all the time, I mean, what I am missing is, if the code is there, and it is commented out, all you have to do is take out the # and it's not commented out anymore...
[17:13] <wild_oscar> speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -l1 -twav
[17:13] <HardDisk> soulrider, I'm in the middle of the desert, ircing....
[17:13] <wild_oscar> but can't hear the rear and central speaker in xine
[17:13] <xtas> ubotu: isn't it a bit more polite to start with that "does anybody" question :)
[17:14] <PirateHead> akira46: It's possible, but it's not simple. You might want to ask in ##linux
[17:14] <adamonline45> peepsalot: I am using xubuntu on a Pentium 2 400MHz, 128MB, everything went nicely, and it runs great, albeit a little slow compared to my pther computer 8)
[17:14] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Ok, but are you looking to have it run that command every time?
[17:14] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Hi people. I want to add a content to /etc/rc.local before the line "exit 0" through a shell script. If the content already exists, then nothing must be done. If the content is commented with one or more "#", then it must be uncommented. What's the better way? Is there a simple way?
[17:14] <HardDisk> wild_oscar, alsamixer
[17:14] <Kasplatt> I need to get FLASH plugin to work for firefox . I get a md5checksum error and then it doesn't install
[17:14] <Pici> xtas: Not when the channel is flooded with 'does anyone' Also, ubotu is a bot.
[17:14] <Pici> !flashisssues | Kasplatt
[17:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashisssues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:14] <Monobi> Hola. I'm installing the server edition of 7.10, and I'm at the start up screen. Should I a) Install to the hard drive or b) install a LAMP server  ?
[17:14] <Pici> !flashissues | Kasplatt
[17:14] <ubotu> Kasplatt: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:14] <xtas> Pici: Yes, found out its a bot. got a pm :)
[17:14] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: #bash might give you a good answer.
[17:14] <HardDisk> Kasplatt, read topic.
[17:14] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Remember yesterday when we tried to help you but you wouldn't answer our questions? Let's try again, are you trying to get that same line to run all the time?
[17:14] <Pici> Monobi: Do you want a webserver setuo?
[17:14] <akira46> PirateHead: i asked in #linux, but i've not any  anwser :( you know how to do that ?
[17:15] <PurpZeY> PirateHead: If I can get a proper answer I can answer it I believe.
[17:15] <Arjun> FFS PPL this is supposed to be for general help ....  Is about addind a content to a script-like file, but echo stuff > file is NOT a good way to do it
[17:15] <PirateHead> akira46: I don't know how to have a special kernel inside a chroot, no. I know how you could do it in a virtual machine, though.
[17:15] <Pici> !patience | Arjun
[17:15] <ubotu> Arjun: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:15] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: thank you!!!
[17:15] <wild_oscar> HardDisk: what about it?
[17:15] <wild_oscar> everything is on
[17:15] <Borbus> Has anybody noticed that the flash graphs on Google Analytics don't work in ubuntu firefox...
[17:15] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I AM GOING TO ASK A FINAL TIME. Are you trying to get that command to run all the time?
[17:15] <Monobi> Pici, shell server
[17:15] <Kasplatt> Pici: thanks
[17:16] <Borbus> On 64bit.. with the wrapper
[17:16] <Arjun> thanx
[17:16] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: As in every time that shell-script runs
[17:16] <Pici> Monobi: Then you dont need the LAMP setup (Linux-Apache-Mysql-Perl)
[17:16] <HardDisk> ok chan's too crowded, I'm taking a break
[17:16] <Monobi> right
[17:16] <Monobi> thanks
[17:16] <akira46> PirateHead: yes, but my goal is to do that in a chroot, not in a true virtual machine !
[17:16] <Kasplatt> HardDisk: sorry
[17:16] <cwccie> Anyone know how to get an intel pro/1000 working in 7.10?
[17:16] <Pici> Arjun: How do you connect to the router?
[17:16] <PurpZeY> cwccie: Describe the problem. . . . .
[17:16] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: To run when system starts. It loads a modem driver and an user app important to this driver
[17:17] <Monobi> Arjun, get a ethernet cable, maybe? ;)
[17:17] <Arjun> well Ive got an eth cable and my onboard card
[17:17] <Monobi> Oh
[17:17] <PirateHead> cwccie: if you haven't already, try googling "Ubuntu intel pro/1000"
[17:17] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Ok, so if you want it to run every time, regardless of whatever else happens, just uncomment the code
[17:17] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: the script itself I want to write will be run once.
[17:17] <cwccie> the NIC is not installed, not available, not functioning... Wireless works just fine
[17:17] <Pici> Arjun: Is your main connection wireless or wired?
[17:17] <Arjun> I installed ubuntu wich apparently understood tht Ive got the card
[17:17] <Arjun> wired ;)
[17:17] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: it's a kind of pos-install automating tool
[17:17] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: What is the END GOAL of all of this? At the end of the day, what do you wan t it to do?
[17:17] <Pici> Arjun: Can you pastebin the output of ifconfig please?
[17:18] <Pici> !pastebin | Arjun
[17:18] <ubotu> Arjun: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:18] <malocite> can anyone direct me to a good article that talks about ubuntu and multicore processors?
[17:18] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: it's a kind of pos-install automating tool
[17:18] <cwccie> The intel pro/1000 is wired
[17:18] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Do you have a list of the commands you want it to run?
[17:18] <Arjun> ok no prob where do you keep the pastebing
[17:18] <Arjun> oh soz
[17:18] <PirateHead> !pastebin | Arjun
[17:18] <ubotu> Arjun: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:18] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Post-install or post-bootup?
[17:18] <Arjun> I c
[17:18] <cwccie> yes, I have looked for documentation.. I was hoping that you guys had something I haven't seen
[17:18] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: the end goal is: in every Ubuntu instalation from scratch, to run the script to install my specific winmodem out-of-the-box
[17:19] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Ok, so, do you know the steps you took get it to work?
[17:19] <SpaminaCan> how come i can't unmount my external harddrive, it says it cant unmount it (i was root....) and then it remounts them....
[17:19] <Arjun> Ok where do I get the ip config output ... Im really new to linux
[17:19] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: get the modem working? I know exactly.
[17:19] <fony> Just this morning i installed ubuntu on my laptop. But I can't figure out how to make it find my wireless network. The Cabled one worked good. But it seems like it doesnt find the wireless one. Any ideas?
[17:19] <PurpZeY> Arjun: Run a terminal and type ifconfig
[17:19] <Arjun> ok
[17:19] <Arjun> brb
[17:19] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: How did you do it/
[17:20] <PirateHead> SpaminaCan: perhaps there is a process that has "locked onto" the drive and claims that it has an unfinished io operatation.
[17:20] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: You've got my question!
[17:20] <PirateHead> SpaminaCan: You could just keep killing processes until it lets you unmount. =P
[17:20] <Arjun> MMM it sais command not found
[17:20] <SpaminaCan> PirateHead, i thought about that..., so i removed it and replugged it in and tryed to unmount it......
[17:20] <SpaminaCan> same thing...
[17:20] <xtas> When I check system monitor -> resources -> CPU history its almost full of 100% is it that Ubuntu is using 100% of CPU all the time? But when I go to process -> and check   what is eating my cpu usage, theres nothing. its about MAX 10% according to process
[17:20] <PurpZeY> Arjun: You typoed it somehow ifconfig
[17:21] <Pici> Arjun: Its case sensitive, so make sure its all lowercase.
[17:21] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Compile and install source, add loading to rc.local then installing and configuring gnome-ppp. Why?
[17:21] <PirateHead> xtas: That's weird. Which one do you reckon is correct?
[17:21] <fony> Is there some way to troubleshoot my wireless network card on ubuntu? maybe there's a problem with the driver or .. something >.<
[17:21] <PirateHead> !wireless
[17:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:22] <whitehat> hello.any ideas why I am unable to run network-admin on xubuntu 7.10 after supplying root password.error is cannot access config file.ideas?
[17:22] <Monobi> Got another question... I have a 6 GB hd and a 41 GB hd.... the 41 is the slave, anyway to change that around w/o having to physically move the hd?
[17:22] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: The compiling end shouldn't be back, but, adding functions to rc.local is going to rather iffy from a bash script....can you manipulate gnome-ppp via CLI?
[17:22] <xtas> PirateHead: Okay. Now I changed the view mode to view all and YES there is a process eating more than 85% its called whiptail. Do you know what it is?
[17:22] <shadowh511> you have to change the jumper on it Monobi
[17:22] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: the question is general: how to be sure a line "123" will exist into a file right before a line like "exit 0" or nanything else, and uncommenting if necessary, and do nothing if it exists.
[17:23] <solorio> Kasplatt: Hi, are you ready to install it manually?
[17:23] <Pici> Monobi: ##hardware please, this channel is only for Ubuntu support.
[17:23] <PirateHead> xtas: I don't know what whiptail is. I would start by googling it.
[17:23] <xtas> ye
[17:23] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: You will not uncomment it, you will have to use an if statement
[17:23] <Kasplatt> solorio: if that makes it work , then yes
[17:23] <crocd> has anybody setup a media server here?
[17:24] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: I didn't understand your message before this
[17:24] <solorio> Kasplatt: I did it just yesterday
[17:24] <Pici> !anyone | crocd
[17:24] <ubotu> crocd: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:24] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: RenatoSilva: The compiling end shouldn't be back, but, adding functions to rc.local is going to rather iffy from a bash script....can you manipulate gnome-ppp via CLI?
[17:24] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: Why not just set a environment variable and use a conditional statement rather than trying to comment and un-comment things?
[17:24] <crocd>
[17:24] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: how exactly?
[17:24] <wild_oscar> back
[17:24] <gsevil> someone reinstall windows and I can't get into Ubuntu. I've just reinstall GRUB, the boot screen appeared like before, but when I chose one, there's a problem, it say "error 17: cannot mount selected device" and it return to boot screen, I chose windows option, it boot to windows normally. Someone help me?
[17:24] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Ok, what you want to do is search for a certain line in local.rc....That will require an if statement in BASH script....and a variable....
[17:24] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: I'll pastebin something for you and post it in a sec.
[17:24] <wild_oscar> anyone knows why the 5.1 does not work?
[17:24] <solorio> Kasplatt: Do you need additional info?
[17:24] <PurpZeY> PirateHead: Gracias.
[17:25] <Kasplatt> solorio: yes please
[17:25] <crocd> ok has anybody successfully setup jinzora media server to stream music to  a PS3?
[17:25] <bazhang> gsevil: would you like a link/factoid for that?
[17:25] <i00_000i>  how to stop daemons from starting up automatically during booting
[17:25] <i00_000i> in ubuntu
[17:25] <PurpZeY> i00_000i: I just take my meds.
[17:25] <Dagaka> how do I create a package for ScummVM 0.10.0 now that i've compiled it?
[17:25] <psusi> gsevil: press e to edit the boot entry and tell me what the root line says
[17:25] <Dr_willis> !sysv
[17:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sysv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:25] <SpaminaCan> any one have an idea why i cant unmount my external harddrive?
[17:26] <HardDisk> Dagaka, scumm is in the repo's
[17:26] <PurpZeY> Dagaka: Once you have compiled something, you should be able to just run it at command line
[17:26] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. whats the default sysv  gui config tool  - i00_000i  needs it. :)
[17:26] <solorio> Kasplatt: OK - go to Adobe download site and get the Linux plugin
[17:26] <gsevil> someone reinstall windows and I can't get into Ubuntu. I've just reinstall GRUB, the boot screen appeared like before, but when I chose one, there's a problem, it say "error 17: cannot mount selected device" and it return to boot screen, I chose windows option, it boot to windows normally. Someone help me?
[17:26] <wild_oscar> SpaminaCan: not sudoing it, is busy?
[17:26] <pvl> is swap equivalent to XP's pagefile?
[17:26] <PurpZeY> !grub | gsevil
[17:26] <i00_000i> PurpZeY:watz meds
[17:26] <ubotu> gsevil: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:26] <HardDisk> Dagaka, sudo apt-get install scummvm
[17:26] <PurpZeY> i00_000i: It was a oke.
[17:26] <Dagaka> I know but I wanted to make a deb package for future installs
[17:26] <PurpZeY> j
[17:26] <SpaminaCan> wild_oscar, last night i logged in as root and tried same thing it remounts it asap
[17:26] <HardDisk> Dagaka, it IS a deb package.
[17:26] <seanh> Anyone know if grsync will automatically try to re-copy files during a backup, if they failed on the first attempt? It seems to have gotten through all the files, and now is going back to individual files in different folders. What's it doing?
[17:26] <Kasplatt> i00_000i: meds = medication
[17:26] <Dagaka> the ScummVM in the repos is quite old now
[17:27] <HardDisk> but still runs all the games I tried
[17:27] <PurpZeY> Kasplatt: Serves me right for trying to be funny around here
[17:27] <gsevil> I did as the page said, but it has the problem I talk about above
[17:27] <psusi> gsevil: press e to edit the boot entry and tell me what the root line says
[17:27] <Dr_willis> i00_000i,  there may be a service tool in the menus some where..  or check out  sysvconfig - A text menu based utility for configuring init script links
[17:27] <Kasplatt> PurpZeY: hehe
[17:27] <HardDisk> what games wouldn't run on it? that you need a new version?
[17:27] <RenatoSilva> pvl: yes, for swap files. Anyway swap partition do the same stuff
[17:27] <i00_000i> PurpZeY:i want to stop hal daemon for starting up...any idea
[17:27] <Kasplatt> solorio: yes and now ?
[17:27] <solorio> Kasplatt: then unzip it and hit the installer
[17:27] <PurpZeY> i00_000i: I don't know anything about that, I was kidding earlier.  don't even know what that does.
[17:28] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: PirateHead told me it will post some code to me
[17:28] <Dr_willis> stopping hal? thats like a very imporntant service I thought.
[17:28] <Kasplatt> solorio: the tar.gz right ?
[17:28] <rubax> Hiya peeps. I have a problem with my graphics card. Its a nvidia GeForce 420 go, when I enable the restricted drivers and restart my screen goes kaput
[17:28] <pvl> RenatoSilva, fiugred, thanks. but is that like a pay up for ram?
[17:28] <Dagaka> I just like to have the latest versions
[17:28] <RenatoSilva> pvl: pay up?
[17:28] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: PirateHead is coding something for you, it is a big favor, just chill out and wait
[17:28] <rubax> the driver xorg.conf lists is nvidia
[17:28] <regeya> whoo.
[17:28] <solorio> Kasplatt: yes, and there is the issue of the install directory
[17:29] <pvl> RenatoSilva, by that i mean, in its most basic, is swap the same as ram?
[17:29] <i00_000i> Dr_willis: hal means hardware abstraction layer..itz keeps polling ur hardware devices...4 changes
[17:29] <rubax> anyone knows what the right driver should be?
[17:29] <PurpZeY> pvl: Not quite
[17:29]  * regeya owes a huge debt of gratitude to someone on the forums; thanks to them, the headphone jack on my wife's lappy works
[17:29] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: you speak like I just want stuff done. I want to LEARN since it would be usefull in many situations :P
[17:29] <pvl> PurpZeY, oh
[17:30] <RenatoSilva> pvl: humm...
[17:30] <Dr_willis> i00_000i,  yes. :) and that can be imporntant.. but if you want to edit the services that are loaded. you could install and run  ' sysvconfig '
[17:30] <garu> hi everyone
[17:30] <Kasplatt> solorio: hmm what install directory issues ? it doesn't install in the right path ?
[17:30] <sasha_> hi, can anyone paste me the default setting for th xorg.conf , i've a fonts issue, looking in my xorg.conf : http://rafb.net/p/YcSWqW65.html
[17:30] <garu> happy new year everyone
[17:30] <RenatoSilva> pvl: do u know what's virtual memory? I don't know if in English this is the term, but it is in ptBR
[17:30] <pvl> ty u2
[17:30] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I understand and if PirateHead won't help you to look at the script and figure it out I will, but it is a pretty big favor for him to write it for you or get you moving in the right direction so just chill smile and thank profusely
[17:30] <sasha_> it do not have a fonts section :-/
[17:31] <PurpZeY> !font | sasha_
[17:31] <ubotu> sasha_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[17:31] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945 gsevil here is another reference link
[17:31] <pvl> RenatoSilva, not so much, should i just google all this?
[17:31] <solorio> Kasplatt: when it asks you where Mozilla is installed
[17:31] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: :-/
[17:31] <regeya> am I missing something?  I see RenatoSilva asking a bunch of questions, and unrelated to that I see several people telling RenatoSilva to chill out and that someone's doing a major favor for him...wtf
[17:31] <i00_000i> Dr_willis: in fedora v can start and stop services by runnung /sbin/services  any such alternatives in ubuntu??
[17:31] <PurpZeY> pvl: Your questions are rather basic, most likely google available.
[17:31] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Problem?
[17:32] <garu> can someone help me out here...what options have to be checked in the Software Sources in gutsy gibbon?thanks
[17:32] <solorio> Kasplatt: are trying now?
[17:32] <pvl> PurpZeY, kk ty
[17:32] <PurpZeY> garu: Shouldn't need anything special
[17:32] <c0nka> heya could someone help
[17:33] <Kasplatt> solorio: yes
[17:33] <i00_000i> Dr_willis: r u gud @using ubuntu
[17:33] <chazco> IS there anyway to find out the requirements of an executable file if they're not given?
[17:33] <PurpZeY> Ask | c0nka
[17:33] <PurpZeY> !Ask | c0nka
[17:33] <ubotu> c0nka: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:33] <solorio> Kasplatt: how is it going?
[17:33] <RenatoSilva> pvl: Yes, but for short: the system uses a disk space when RAM is busy. Linux call this space swap (partition or file), and on windows it's the c:\pagefile.sys (I guess). Search for swap on Wikipedia, I think it will provide more general links.
[17:33] <Kasplatt> solorio: it says /home/me/.mozilla
[17:33] <c0nka> how do i install a program on a different drive using the console
[17:33] <PurpZeY> c0nka: install using apt-get?
[17:33] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: no....just the way it sounds for me :)
[17:33] <garu> PurpZey what about the updates?because, in my laptop. everything works fine, the only problem is when I try to download anything, my wireless connexion goes down!
[17:33] <pvl> RenatoSilva, starting to make sense to me, thank you
[17:34] <solorio> Kasplatt: did it accept it?
[17:34] <Kasplatt> solorio: haven't tried yet
[17:34] <PurpZeY> garu: should just be connecting to the Ubuntu repos...You can verify the addresses.
[17:34] <c0nka> purpzey: yes mate
[17:34] <Kasplatt> solorio: "Installation Complete"
[17:34] <Kasplatt> solorio: going to test it now
[17:34] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: What is your criteria for deciding whether to run the line?
[17:34] <mavi-> c0nka: you dont install to drives in ubuntu/linux
[17:34] <solorio> Kasplatt: great! go back to the site and try interactive
[17:34] <c0nka> o right
[17:34] <PurpZeY> c0nka: It doesn't really.....yeah what mavi said
[17:35] <mavi-> c0nka: you install to pre-defined directories so you need to make sure you set those up with space enough
[17:35] <Kasplatt> solorio: works great , thanks.
[17:35] <Kasplatt> huh interactive ?
[17:35] <chazco> Ah... what would "Linux:  Any Linux for PCs with glibc 2.2.5 or higher, X Window system with any Window Manager" that translate to in a deb requirements line... glibc>=2.2.5 &...?
[17:35] <c0nka> purpzey: but i have different drives
[17:35] <solorio> Kasplatt: u are welcome
[17:35] <PurpZeY> c0nka: Don't we all? :D
[17:35] <Dr_willis> i00_000i,  im good at reading docs and guides and googling for the info i need to learn. :)
[17:35] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: this is a separate issue. The script itself is not responsible about what will be done with the file or the lines added.
[17:35] <c0nka> purpzey: so how would you do it
[17:35] <Dr_willis> i00_000i,  but right now i gotta go shovel snow.. bbl
[17:35] <Arjun> pici they keep telling me Im trying to spam the pastebin
[17:36] <PurpZeY> c0nka: You generally will install to your filesystem
[17:36] <garu> PurpZey humn...oki doki!
[17:36] <c0nka> purpzey: but i need it on a differnet drive
[17:36] <PurpZeY> c0nka: I keep a ton of free-space on mine and rarely install anything besides porn, it's a non-issue
[17:36] <i00_000i> c0nka: no such concept in linux
[17:36] <i00_000i> everything comes ubder /
[17:36] <garu> anyone having problems with ralink wireless card?
[17:37] <PurpZeY> garu: I mean this most politely, check the forums
[17:37] <dv_^> i have one of those 4-direction mouse wheels, anyone know how to enable the left-right directions?
[17:37] <c0nka> purpzey: so theres no way i can do it
[17:37] <PurpZeY> dv_^: I mean this most politely, check the forums
[17:37] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: the script only must *ensure that the line is there*, with the observations I said before (before a specific content, not duplicated with commented lines)
[17:37] <dv_^> PurpZeY: heh okay
[17:37] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50519/ simply shows how to use a conditional statement.
[17:37] <zenobius> cOnka: out of curiosity, waht are you trying to do?
[17:37] <PurpZeY> zenobius: He wants to install packages elsewhere from his file system
[17:37] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: the script only must *ensure that the line is there*, with the observations I said before (before a specific content, not duplicated with commented lines)
[17:38] <zenobius> and?
[17:38] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: Perhaps I don't understand fully what you're trying to do.
[17:38] <zenobius> wahts hard about that
[17:38] <gsevil> psusi : root (hd0,2) ; kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin ; quiet
[17:38] <c0nka> zenobius : i am using xammp to run my website and i need it on a different hardrive
[17:38] <Sonja> what does this mean and how do i fix it: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[17:38] <Sonja> when opening googlearth
[17:38] <regeya> garu: within the last two weeks I've dealt with three different wireless cards, and either I have horrible luck or the state of wireless cards in linux is deplorable
[17:38] <Arjun> Pici, you there
[17:38] <zenobius> oh wants /var/apt/cache to be on /dev/hdc3 or something?
[17:38] <Arjun> Pici, ??
[17:38] <PurpZeY> PirateHead: He wants this script to grep the other file, look for X, if it finds X, exit(0), if it doesn't find X has been run, run X, (he calls it uncommenting)
[17:38] <garu> PurpZeY I'v been doing this for ages.lol...but, thanks anywayz...maybe the developers will do something about it sometime in the future
[17:38] <Alan> What is the best tool for converting audio files?  I have a load of FLAC files i want in max quality MP3 VBR for use on a portable media player...
[17:39] <c0nka> zenobius : yeah
[17:39] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: actually after readind it I'm sure about that :)
[17:39] <PurpZeY> Alan: FFMPEG is good for any encoding
[17:39] <zenobius> easy
[17:39] <PurpZeY> !best | Alan
[17:39] <ubotu> Alan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[17:39] <Alan> Also, what's best for managing an iPod shuffle
[17:39] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: understand now, however?
[17:39] <PurpZeY> !ipod | Alan
[17:39] <ubotu> Alan: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[17:39] <regeya> Alan: http://code.google.com/p/flac2any/wiki/Manual <- an option
[17:39] <Sonja> PurpZeY don't be anal. "best" usually means "most popular" :)
[17:39] <Alan> heh, fair enough PurpZeY
[17:39] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: Kinda.
[17:39]  * Alan feels factoid-pwnt
[17:39] <PurpZeY> Sonja: Don't say anal. It gets me all riled up
[17:39] <zenobius> c0nka: your extra drive mounted under /media ?
[17:39] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: Kinda?
[17:39] <regeya> y'know, the ubuntu crowd, like many distributions, is turning into a flock of jerks.
[17:40] <Sonja> mmm buttsecks
[17:40] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[17:40] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: You want to know how to make a piece of code do something, but you don't understand how or why. I tried to explain it to you, you don't want to listen....Deja vu
[17:40] <Myrtti> behave, kids
[17:40] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: It all seems roundabout to me.
[17:40] <RenatoSilva> Let me ask it just one more time (please): Hi people. I want to add a content to /etc/rc.local before the line "exit 0" through a shell script. If the content already exists, then nothing must be done. If the content is commented with one or more "#", then it must be uncommented. What's the better way? Is there a simple way?
[17:40] <garu> regeya lol...I'v been struggling with wireless issues ever since feisty. Some people keep saying ubuntu just doesnt like ralink rt61pci wireless cards...the thing is...I can't really live without wireless...lol
[17:40] <PurpZeY> BAAH!!!!
[17:41] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Huh????
[17:41] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: try the SED manual
[17:41] <gsevil> when boot into ubuntu, there's a problem: "error 17 cannot mount selected device". I press e and it write: "boot (hd0,2)" I did as the page in !grub said
[17:41] <Pici> RenatoSilva: Have you asked in #bash?
[17:41] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: TWO OF US TRIED TO HELP YOU. LISTEN FOR A CHANGE
[17:41] <Myrtti> PurpZeY: tut-tut
[17:41] <Pici> PurpZeY: Please dont.
[17:41] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: the command sed is waht you want to investigate
[17:41] <PirateHead> !shout | PurpZeY
[17:41] <Arjun> Pici,  hey
[17:41] <ubotu> PurpZeY: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[17:41] <PurpZeY> Ok, yes caps
[17:41] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: you understand my question! not they!!!!!
[17:42] <PurpZeY> Myrtti or Pici can you send me a msg please
[17:42] <garu> regeya and my connexion works fine, my wireless connexion, untill I start downloading something that takes more than 15 minutes to download
[17:42] <RenatoSilva> Pici: I'm gonna do it
[17:42] <Myrtti> PurpZeY: huh
[17:42] <Arjun> Pici, dude Ive got the report now but It wont let me paste it sais im trying to spam the pastebin
[17:42] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: take a look
[17:42] <PurpZeY> Myrtti: Just trying to explain my outburst, it's fine....forget it
[17:42] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: if you hunt for books about SEd you will pretty soon find lots of free pdfs and massiv txt files
[17:42] <Pici> Arjun: use http://pastebin.com/ then
[17:43] <Sonja> there are a million pastebin websites out there
[17:43] <Arjun> Pici,  thanx
[17:43] <Sonja> each project seems to have its own
[17:43] <sanchit> i am experiencing a problem in booting ubuntu from external hard disk . i can boot up from a boot cd but when  i try to do without it grub shows error 17 ? help me  guys
[17:43] <Arjun> Pici, http://pastebin.com/m449bb7b8
[17:44] <gsevil> I have the same problem with sanchit, error 17, in same hdd
[17:44] <PurpZeY> Myrtti: My head only bangs against the wall a certain amount of times. . .That's all....I'll shut up about it no
[17:44] <PurpZeY> w
[17:44] <Arjun> Pici, thats the url for my post
[17:44] <zenobius> c0nka: the best way to do waht you want (in a secure and clean way) is to partition or associate the mount point /var/www wit h a hd or partition at install time
[17:44] <Pici> Arjun: Whats the ip address for your router?
[17:44] <tribaldata> sanchit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[17:44] <i00_000i> sanchit: edit grub.conf file in /boot
[17:44] <Arjun> <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:44] <zenobius> c0nka: or you could just symlink /var/www to say /media/your120gbHD/webroot
[17:45] <elder> i have an nvidia geforce fx5200
[17:45] <sanchit> gsevil : i solved the prob by making boot cd but i do not like inserting crapping cd everytime
[17:45] <Pici> Arjun: And when you ping that it gets no reply?
[17:45] <Arjun> Pici, nope :(
[17:45] <PurpZeY> That doesn't sound like a router IP to me....I could be wrong....Sounds like the gateway
[17:45] <elder> will i have any problems if i just install it into this box with 7.10?
[17:45] <PurpZeY> Usually router IP starts with 192, not always.
[17:45] <PurpZeY> But usually
[17:45] <sanchit> i00_000i : what shud i change
[17:45] <Pici> Arjun: Are you on a windows computer right now?
[17:45] <Pici> Arjun: On that same network?
[17:45] <tribaldata> PurpZeY: Router could definitly start with 10.x.x.x as your internal network adresses
[17:46] <Arjun> yeaI know but hellkom here in sa decided thats what we need to use for our adsl routers ;)
[17:46] <Arjun> yup
[17:46] <Arjun> yup
[17:46] <PurpZeY> tribaldata: I said usually......
[17:46] <Arjun> LOL Iknow ;) not to wory PurpZeY
[17:46] <sanchit> tribaldata : checking it
[17:46] <Pici> Arjun: Can you pastebin the output of `ipconfig /all`
[17:46] <Arjun> ok
[17:47] <tribaldata> PurpZeY: No harm done :)
[17:47] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: I have a script-like file I want to ensure to have certain line, but not just by echo > file. The line should be uncomemnted if exists, for example. I know that sed is the way, but I asked here because I thought it was a common issue and that would exist already an easy way to do it. In a outline I know what to do: Uncomment line if any, using replacement by  regular expressions. If not, replace "exit 0" by "myline \n exit 0". I guess this is
[17:47] <PurpZeY> Learn one thing in law school, preface everything with, generally speaking, or usually.
[17:47] <Arjun> MMMM how do you get the info outa the cmd window
[17:47] <Arjun> Pici, MMMM how do you get the info outa the cmd window
[17:47] <godzirra> Ok, I have a problem on my wireless on myl aptop in gutsy where after a while, the network just shuts down.  I can't get it back up, and a lot of abilities of the laptop don't work (such as opening a terminal window).  I checked lsmod, and the only difference I can see is that when I do an lsmod, ipw3945 (my card) is set to "0" so it isn't being used....  I'm using restricted drivers on an HP DV6500.
[17:47] <Pici> Arjun: All I'm really looking for is the part after "Subnet mask" and "default gateway"
[17:48] <tribaldata> PurpZeY: one of the best advice you could have remember :)
[17:48] <sn0> i00_000i so we can talk about ubuntu help in here :)
[17:48] <PurpZeY> godzirra: I am not trying to dismiss you, but often these problems are common, have you checked the forums
[17:48] <minus198> Hi.. Something weird has happened to my terminal (Gnome terminal in this case). I can no longer paste with middelklick, leftklick or click on it at all. Cause when I middleclick the only thing that happens is that this comes up: "!I/#I/" Other characters occur. And also, I cant mark anything. Cause there is no marker when I move over the chars with the mouse, its just a normal pointer. Does someone have a clue what the f*** this is?
[17:48] <Arjun> subnet == <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:48] <Arjun> gW == <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:48] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: i know sed can be complex, but it is possible to search for lines and return true or not with SED.
[17:48] <godzirra> PurpZeY: No problem.  I have and haven't found much of any answers.
[17:49] <PurpZeY> tribaldata: Come back later and say "I said generally speaking" or "I said X ten minutes ago" works either way
[17:49] <Pici> Arjun: Okay, can you also pastebin the output of `route` on your linux computer/
[17:49] <Arjun> Pici, subnet == <IP_ADDRESS>........gW == <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:49] <godzirra> PurpZeY: for mostp eople it seems to work, and for the people it doesn't work for, there doesnt seem to be a good solution.
[17:49] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: have you looked at the advanced bash scripting guid thats inthe repositories
[17:49] <Pici> PurpZeY, tribaldata: Please stop.
[17:49] <Arjun> ok
[17:49] <Arjun> is that a terminal command aswell
[17:49] <Pici> Arjun: It is indeed.
[17:49] <Arjun> Pici, is that a terminal command aswell
[17:49] <Arjun> cool
[17:49] <PurpZeY> godzirra: That would be the limit as to what I would know, I'd just read forums or google on it, Is there are particular error your are getting?
[17:49] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: I'm gonna search about it
[17:49] <svb_> exit
[17:50] <godzirra> PurpZeY: nope.
[17:50] <godzirra> PurpZeY: network just stops and I have to hard reboot the machine.
[17:50] <zenobius> PurpZeY: wahts the purpose of windows automatically putting the subnet mask to <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS> when you put a 10.x.x.x type ip address inyour settings(in indows this is)
[17:50] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:50] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:50] <PurpZeY> godzirra: once it fails what does iwconfig return?
[17:50] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: see if i can find the sources im thinking of
[17:50] <krim> Sometimes when I'm looking through several folders of flac files and opening some something happens to Nautilus and I can't open files anymore. I double click but nothing happens, so i have to kill Nautilus and then it works again. Anyone else experienced this?
[17:51] <dcnstrct> I tried installing gusty desktop.  When I put the cd in and reboot I get the ubuntu menu.  I tell it to do the install, then it drops me into BusyBox for some reason.  Where should I begin ?
[17:51] <simion314> hi,  i am using a proxy, tried to set th http_proxy variable  and tryed to set the proxy from system->preferences->network proxy but that is good for nothing i still have to configure all application manualy and the gnome xchat can;t be configured
[17:51] <tribaldata> pici : we get your point.....
[17:51] <minus198> It solved itself out.. A reboot of Gnome Terminal did the trick.
[17:51] <godzirra> PurpZeY: that I don't ahve an ip address.  But I can't get much to run.  Its very odd.  I can't open up a new terminal window, for instance.
[17:51] <Pici> !boot > i00_000i (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:51] <PurpZeY> godzirra: That is problem thatgoes beyond your wifi card
[17:51] <Dr_Evil> zenobius a <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS> is a class-A net, and thus has traditionally had that netmask by default
[17:51] <Pici> tribaldata: I dont think people do.
[17:52] <godzirra> PurpZeY: Possibly.  but the wifi is the only symptom I can find.
[17:52] <PurpZeY> godzirra: You can't open a terminal
[17:52] <Arjun> Pici, http://pastebin.com/m2c7114b7
[17:53] <simion314> my windows do not have a title bar is this a bug in compiz?
[17:53] <PurpZeY> godzirra: Sounds like something else in gnome is going awry, causing the network issues...If you can't open a terminal that is a problem
[17:53] <PurpZeY> simion314: Try right clicking on CCSM and hitting "restart windows manager" otherwise you deleted your panel and need to re-add it
[17:53] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: but doesnt a <IP_ADDRESS> mask allow broadcast traffice to go outside my <IP_ADDRESS> router to say <IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:53] <godzirra> PurpZeY: possibly, but the only thing I can see is the difference in my lsmod
[17:53] <Sonja> what malware removal tool should i get for ubuntu?
[17:53] <godzirra> PurpZeY: which shows that ipw3945 is set to 0, i.e. not being used.
[17:54] <PurpZeY> godzirra: How can you do lsmod when you can't open at terminal?
[17:54] <Pici> Arjun: Okay, hold on a minute.
[17:54] <RenatoSilva> May I turn /var/cache/apt/archives into a soft link to a directory on a NTFS partition???
[17:54] <PriceChild> Sonja, is it needed?
[17:54] <Daviey> Sonja: what malware?
[17:54] <Arjun> Pici, cool ;)
[17:54] <Sonja> i though there were maliciosu cookies to be had and such
[17:54]  * PurpZeY thought no malware and virii
[17:54] <Dr_Evil> zenobius well I can't answer that, sorry
[17:54] <PriceChild> RenatoSilva, the last person who messed in apt's domain died iirc
[17:54] <Sonja> ubuntu can't get viruses?
[17:54] <PriceChild> Sonja, "no"
[17:54] <godzirra> PurpZeY: I already have one opened.
[17:54] <Sonja> that's convenient
[17:54] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: from little jnettop test ive run it seems to be the case
[17:54] <godzirra> PurpZeY: it works fine if its already opened..  just can't open a new one.
[17:54] <Sonja> a nice change from winxp
[17:54] <wigliam> pricechild:"no"?
[17:54] <PriceChild> !virus | Sonja
[17:55] <ubotu> Sonja: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[17:55] <zenobius> PriceChild: but ive done it
[17:55] <PurpZeY> godzirra: To me, from my standpoint if you can't open a new one, something is wrong, maybe compiz is failing, have you tried just reloading compiz?
[17:55] <godzirra> PurpZeY: i've tried hitting ctrl-alt-backspace to restart all of X and it doesn't.
[17:55] <zenobius> PriceChild: the var/apt/cache thing....had to do it when setting up apt-mirror
[17:55] <PriceChild> wigliam, there are none in the wild. however it is of course possible
[17:55] <Dr_Evil> zenobius well <IP_ADDRESS> masks all 10.*.*.* so if you need something narrow, then you need to specify another netmask
[17:55] <PriceChild> wigliam, nobody seems to bother though
[17:56] <RenatoSilva> PriceChild: ?????
[17:56] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: it is possible, but things may have changed since i did that thing
[17:56] <dcnstrct> this is the error I'm seeing when I try to install ubuntu (I get the busybox).  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=393237  any ideas what I can try ?  I get the exact same error messages
[17:56] <PurpZeY> godzirra: Huh.....That is weird...I mean, if it was just your wifi card OK...but you can't open a terminal.....that's odd
[17:56] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: a long time ago?
[17:56] <PriceChild> RenatoSilva, yeah i'm sure you can do it... i would just warn against messing around with apt. You will break it if you don't know what you're doing.
[17:56] <zenobius> PriceChild: yeah was in breezy
[17:56] <cdavis> Can anyone tell me how to import a csv file with pgadmin3? I can't find anything and thought someone had said there was a druid to do so?
[17:57] <PriceChild> RenatoSilva, permissions stand out to me as being something missing that could be useful
[17:57] <PriceChild> ownership etc.
[17:57] <runemaste644> How do i rename an application in the gmenu and change the icon?
[17:57] <dwidge> I am using xandr for an extended virtual desktop. I have a laptop screen (LVDS, 1280x800) and a CRT (VGA-0, 1024x768). It works when I dynamically set xandr from the terminal. However, using the permanent xorg.conf way, the LVDS always starts in 1024x768. How to fix? I will post my xorg.conf if requested..
[17:57] <PurpZeY> runemaste644: right click on it
[17:57] <PriceChild> runemaste644, right click it and choose "edit menu"
[17:57] <Arjun> I hereby wanna apologise to the whole of the ubutu channel for shouting at u all just now ;)
[17:57] <RenatoSilva> PriceChild: if I link the cache properly to a NTFS folder then I will not have any problems, don't?
[17:57] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: i thought a 0 meant that broadcast traffic isnt prevented from reaching hosts on that portion
[17:57] <wigliam> another interesting thing: do we need to defrag on linux(ubuntu)?
[17:57] <PurpZeY> Arjun: No worries, from my end
[17:57] <PriceChild> RenatoSilva, I haven't tried it myself so not sure.
[17:57] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: and a 255 meant dont broadcast in these bits
[17:57] <PriceChild> !defrag | wigliam