[00:51] <c_smith> so, talk about the Salem Ubuntu Hour is going, but there's still some negotiating with time and date to be done.
[00:52] <bkerensa> yep :D
[00:53] <c_smith> well, hopefully I can get this done in a timely manner, eh?
[00:53] <c_smith> also, I'm sending the emails to the Mailing list and not just to specific people, right?
[00:54] <bkerensa> c_smith: Likely.... It takes me month or two to plan a event
[00:54] <bkerensa> yeah keep it on the mailing list
[00:54] <bkerensa> :D
[00:54] <c_smith> I'm trying, but I'm making sure Thunderbird is sending it there. might as well check
[00:56] <c_smith> hmmmm, looks like 2 of them, the last one, and another earlier on got sent to the wrong person.
[01:02] <c_smith> well, I have most of the parts of this Ubuntu Hour figured out, we have all agreed on a venue, unless there's more people I don't know about, just need to decide on a time.
[01:04] <c_smith> bkerensa, also, I've been trying to find a place to give out some of that swag from the Jam, but none of the places I thought of I thought would be appropriate to give it out at, school? no, we're busy most of the time there, and can't think of too many other places.
[01:08] <bkerensa> Well if you have friends
[01:08] <bkerensa> c_smith: You can always give them some
[01:14] <c_smith> I have friends I go to school with, but they probably wouldn't even understand what the magazines and what not aren talking about, most of them are the classic teen image who are on their cell phone 24/7, only one understands what I talk about, and he's got some legal issues because a girl decided to pull something I'm not at liberty to talk about, may have said too much even then, plus he's in Monmouth, not too easy for me too reach,
[01:18] <c_smith> and if they want, I could bring that bag I've put all of it in, and have them choose.
[16:06] <bkerensa> =o
[16:09] <MarkDude> Are you a free geeker yet?
[16:10] <bkerensa> LOL
[16:10] <bkerensa> I have been a volunteer for two years ;)
[16:11] <bkerensa> this is for a Internship of sorts
[16:11] <bkerensa> :D
[16:11] <bkerensa> and it was tomorrow but I rescheduled :)
[16:19] <MarkDude> cool
[16:30] <Brian_H> so far so good on the remote system management using landscape, upgraded a box successfully  from lts -> 10.10, now 10.10 -> 11.04
[16:36] <bkerensa> Nice
[16:38] <nathwill> morning folks
[16:47] <MarkDude> nathwill: you Washingtonian yet?
[16:50] <nathwill> i never wash
[16:50] <nathwill> but i am considering some form of elaborate facial ornamentation for stachetober
[16:52] <bkerensa> hi nathwill
[16:52] <bkerensa> :D
[16:52] <nathwill> heya ben
[16:52] <bkerensa> nathwill: You might move to WA?
[16:52] <nathwill> how's your weekend?
[16:52] <nathwill> noooo
[16:53] <nathwill> i believe this is a case of mistaken /identify
[16:53] <bkerensa> oh
[16:53] <bkerensa> ;p
[16:53] <bkerensa> nathwill: Busy I guess a bit of burnout from all the events over the past few months
[16:53] <bkerensa> :D
[16:54] <nathwill> i got a speeding ticket on the way to glide
[16:54]  * nathwill is unhappy
[16:56] <nathwill> bye mark
[16:57] <bkerensa> Invitation sent to Kevin Mitnick. See other people you may know below.
[16:57] <bkerensa> :D
[16:57] <bkerensa> nathwill: Added you on Linkedin
[16:57] <nathwill> excellent
[17:05] <bkerensa> nathwill: My LinkedIn is insane large http://awesomescreenshot.com/0c1lpvfb6
[17:05] <nathwill> dear god
[17:12] <Brian_H> boom! joined bkerensa ;)
[17:12] <bkerensa> ;)
[17:13] <bkerensa> Figured I would create one for  the LoCo
[17:13] <Brian_H> just had to file a bug against landscape :p
[17:15] <Brian_H> they tell you to reboot the system you're upgrading before this dist-upgrade is complete
[17:15] <Brian_H> which is "a bad idea"
[17:22] <nathwill> just found something interesting in #debian
[17:22] <nathwill> http://goaccess.prosoftcorp.com/screenshots
[17:22] <nathwill> seems nifty
[17:27] <Brian_H> that looks cool
[17:28] <nathwill> yeah, i'm playing around w/ it now
[17:28] <nathwill> it seems to be snappy, lightweight and do a good job parsing the logs
[17:28] <nathwill> the controls are a bit weird for getting more detail though
[21:52] <nathwill> dear god
[21:52] <nathwill> my head's going to pop
[22:28] <c_smith> g'day!
[23:12] <c_smith> bkerensa, if there are certain members who could only come to the Ubuntu Hour in Salem every now and again, instead of every time, would that be ok?
[23:33] <c_smith> bkerensa on since you are on, may I ask you a question?
[23:34] <c_smith> that email gave you away! :P


[08:49] <kgoetz> does this team have a wiki page or something? the Lp page isnt very... verbose
[08:49] <Burgundavia> not really
[08:49] <Burgundavia> why do you ask?
[08:51] <kgoetz> i was wondering what the teams purpose is - is it help or working on directory services for ubuntu?
[08:51] <kgoetz> i may need to deploy a few systesm authing against an ldap databse (or an arangement like that), i was wodering if this was a place to look
[08:52] <Burgundavia> we are both help and dev
[08:52] <Burgundavia> most of us have deployed ldap systems and some of us are working on making it easier
[08:52] <Burgundavia> ajmitch has an almost complete auth tool that will allow easy ldap auth
[08:53] <ajmitch> apparantly in production use even
[08:53] <kgoetz> hm. neat.
[08:53] <ajmitch> plus there's various server stuff
[08:55] <kgoetz> ok
[08:55] <kgoetz> not really much further on, apart from knowing ajmitch is the person to wath ;0
[08:55] <ajmitch> :P
[08:55] <kgoetz> *watch
[08:55] <kgoetz> :p
[08:56] <ajmitch> why me, I'm just another spare time hacker
[08:56] <Burgundavia> kgoetz: the guide on the wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication has been well tested
[08:57] <kgoetz> Burgundavia: thanks for that.
[08:57] <kgoetz> ajmitch: you got named :P
[08:57] <ajmitch> lucky me
[08:57] <kgoetz> ah, and it links to the server setup page. nice
[08:57] <kgoetz> i'im sure i'll have a chance to try it out some time. thanks again
[08:58] <Burgundavia> that I need to rewrite at some point
[09:02] <Burgundavia> the authtool doing completely cached stuff will rock
[09:02] <ajmitch> yeah, it should do that
[09:06] <Burgundavia> colour me wrong, but doesn't default openldap pass auth data unencrypted?
[09:08] <ajmitch> connect with ssl
[09:09] <Burgundavia> right
[09:09] <Burgundavia> which I would need to configure?
[09:09] <Burgundavia> can we make fds only allow ssl connections?
[09:10] <ajmitch> it could be possible
[09:10] <Burgundavia> from the security perspective, if authtool does ssl by default and fds only allows it, we have a win
[09:11] <ajmitch> yep


[12:40] <nixternal> how come I always miss the Edubuntu meetings? I want to toss my hat in for membership (for about 6 months now), but can never make it to a meeting
[12:41] <Burgwork> nixternal: you already have Edubuntu, via your Kubuntu memberhsip
[12:41] <nixternal> also, LaserJock, any plans for 7.10?
[12:41] <nixternal> via Kubuntu and Ubuntu and Burgwork memberships ;)
[12:41] <Burgwork> wait a sec, you have membership in me?
[12:41] <nixternal> LaserJock: that is for doc work? Kubuntu is solid and won't take to much from me this go round
[12:41] <nixternal> not in you...OK, I am going to stop
[12:42] <nixternal> trying to say it right still sounded wrong
[12:48] <nixternal> yes
[12:48] <nixternal> muhehehe
[12:48] <nixternal> it started out as a joke, but Burgwork made me want it (membership) even more. I want to be like him when I grow up
[12:48] <Burgwork> nixternal: you are twisted :)
[12:49] <nixternal> you think? ;)
[12:53] <Burgwork> ya, you use KDE?
[01:06] <pygi> :P
[01:23] <ajmitch> aw, nixternal left
[01:23] <ajmitch> yay, he returns
[01:24] <ajmitch> Burgwork: it's not fair, I'm not an edubuntu or kubuntu member
[01:24] <nixternal> oh man, I press the wrong button and everyone starts talking bad about me ;)
[01:25] <ajmitch> nixternal: of course
[01:25] <ajmitch> how else would we talk?
[01:25] <ajmitch> hello pygi :)
[01:26] <Burgwork> ajmitch: how familiar are you with mysql?
[01:26] <nixternal> haha
[01:26] <nixternal> OK, class time
[01:26] <nixternal> back in a bit
[01:26] <pygi> ajmitch, hi ^_^
[01:26] <ajmitch> Burgwork: mysql & php are the bane of my life
[01:26] <Burgwork> I am having a headache installing joomla
[01:27] <ajmitch> ok
[01:27] <pygi> Burgwork, what's the problem?
[01:27] <Burgwork> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Joomla <-- following this
[01:28] <Burgwork> I have created a mysql db
[01:28] <Burgwork> and yet is says "mysql unavailable" on the first page
[01:28] <Burgwork> on the joomla config wizard
[01:29] <pygi> restarted mysql, gave all rights to the user that joomla is using to access db, and such?
[01:29] <Burgwork> yep and yep
[01:30] <ajmitch> joomla is php?
[01:30] <Burgwork> ya
[01:30] <ajmitch> got the appropriate php-mysql installed?
[01:31] <Burgwork> now I feel stupid
[01:33] <Burgwork> ok, that worked
[01:33] <ajmitch> excellent
[01:34] <pygi> congrats Burgwork :)
[05:10] <LaserJock> nixternal: you sitll around?
[05:12] <LaserJock> Burgwork: you still around?
[06:35] <sacater> highvolt1ge: ive fixed gizmo
[06:35] <sacater> highvolt1ge: well sort of, i now use ekig
[06:35] <sacater> ekiga*
[07:38] <skwashd> hi all
[07:39] <skwashd> i have been trying to install edubuntu and i am not having much luck
[07:39] <skwashd> nm
[07:42] <skwashd> had my partioning wrong
[07:42] <skwashd> 100M / not 100G :)
[09:18] <juliux> hi RichEd
[01:08] <tsurc> Ive just installed edu7.04 on a test server, and I'm having problems with the Screen Viewer.
[02:48] <tsurc> I'm having problems setting up Screen Viewer on edubunut7.04. I have followed the instructions here https://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients BUT NO JOY
[02:48] <tsurc> sorry "but no joy"
[03:51] <cliebow_> tsurc:this is usng thin-client-manager?
[03:52] <tsurc> yes, but weirdly and I don't know what I did...... but it works now
[03:53] <cliebow_> must live right 8~)
[03:53] <cliebow_> soccer playoffs on now?
[03:54] <tsurc> get a small thumbnail from thin-client-manager.... note ip address of client. close thin-client manager. Fire up vncviewer ip:6 and your away.
[03:55] <tsurc> all I need to do now I thing is sort out sound with websites using flash. Set the clients NOT to detect the on board flash, and workout how to turn all the clients of with a cron job.
[03:56] <tsurc> *think
[03:57] <tsurc> cliebow_: I haven't tried that script out yet you sent me. I have had a little read through and it look ok so far.
[03:58] <cliebow_>  i cant remember..ohhh ldap..
[03:58] <tsurc> cliebow_: prefer rugby union (bit like american football minus the body armour, helmets and stuff) ;)
[03:59] <cliebow_> tsurc:death-wish football..my brother used to play
[03:59] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:00] <tsurc> My sister used to play for Lancaster University Womens squad.
[04:00] <tsurc> Morning (Afternoon ?)
[04:00] <cliebow_> my old Teach gave a list of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>click on it..hit run and it would open up
[04:00] <bddebian> Heya
[04:00] <cliebow_> sort of like mrs doubtfire..8~)
[04:02] <tsurc> Well I know we have a love hate relationship, but she's not quite that bad. For a rugby player she's surprisingly feminine
[04:03] <cliebow_> cool..
[04:03] <tsurc> anyway, I havn't seen her for a bit, I'm more bothered about getting a cron job for shuting down the clients.
[04:04] <cliebow_> like an ssh -e to the client?
[04:04] <tsurc> I've got waking them up ok. using wakeonlan on the server
[04:04] <cliebow_> cool
[04:05] <tsurc> but shutting them all down is a puzzler
[04:06] <tsurc> Idea is at 8pm server shuts down all the clients....8am Server starts all the clients. thus 12h of power saved every day... *week*month*year = allot of power saved
[04:09] <sbalneav> tsurc: Remembering that even if you shut them down, they're still using power
[04:09] <tsurc> wakeonlan was the easy part. (except its in universe) wakeonlan MACoClient MACoClient MACoClient etc =  job done
[04:09] <sbalneav> Better solution would be to simply put a block-heater timer on the pwer for the lab table, and actually kill power to the table.
[04:09] <tsurc> yeh but no where near the level they would if they were on fully
[04:10] <sbalneav> As well, you can actually buy power-strips that are tcp/ip aware.
[04:10] <ogra> with running sshd ? *g*
[04:11] <sbalneav> The one I used to have had a telnet interface
[04:11] <tsurc> and it scores high for internal politics, that we don't have to change anything, just implement code
[04:11] <ogra> cool
[04:14] <tsurc> thats just bells and whistles ATM, my real problem lies with the onboard flash on these t5725's. When a user logsin they get them proudly displayed on their desktop.
[04:16] <ogra> hmm, thats tricky, we dont have a blacklist meachanism for loca devices ...
[04:17] <ogra> i asume you want functionality for usbsticks etc ...
[04:20] <tsurc> hey, really jut stuff that is plugged in "after" the user has logged in
[04:22] <tsurc> another thing I just noticed, is that the testuser I created can navigate into the Administrators home directory.
[04:23] <tsurc> changing the permissions on the folder solves this...... but should this happen out the box?
[04:24] <ogra> yup, we use the default umask value ubuntu uses ... you can change that in /etc/profile
[04:25] <ogra> man umask gves you info
[04:25] <ogra> *gives
[04:26] <tsurc> right... any particular reason why?
[04:27] <ogra> just to stay conform with ubuntu defaults and ubuntu documentation
[04:27] <tsurc> just seems a bit odd on an edubuntu server install thats all
[04:27] <ogra> for the flashdisks you could try to edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client
[04:27] <ogra> find a line "/usr/sbin/delayed_mounter"
[04:27] <ogra> comment it
[04:27] <ogra> and reboot a client
[04:28] <ogra> if that works i'll make it a config option "EXCLUDE_STATIC_LOCALDEV" or so ...
[04:28] <ogra> (for gutsy)
[04:29] <tsurc> changed... rebooting now
[04:32] <tsurc> ;) works a treat
[04:33] <ogra> great
[04:33] <ogra> thanks for testing ... i add a patch to my local branch
[04:33] <tsurc> although I have the edubuntu-server-addon cd in the server right now, and the user can see it too.
[04:33] <ogra> yes, all users will see server sided devices
[04:34] <ogra> they are not handled by ltsp but by the default desktop
[04:35] <ogra> devices handled by ltspfs are only seen and accessible by the user who owns them ...
[04:35] <tsurc> yes.... but when "I" try to eject it it fails because apparently only testuser can do that.
[04:35] <ogra> sounds like a gnome bug
[04:35] <ogra> nautilus rather
[04:36] <tsurc> on the testusers desktop there is no left_click eject option
[04:37] <ogra> indeed
[04:37] <ogra> hmm
[04:37] <ogra> all you can do is eject it from the terminal ...
[04:38] <ogra> nautilus is patched to not show any eject items on thin clients ...since ltspfs doesnt use unmounting or ejecting
[04:38] <ogra> indeed that case wasnt planned :)
[04:38] <tsurc> anyway of finding out what packages are invloved to I can file a bug in the right place?
[04:39] <tsurc> .. and ejecting from the terminal works ;) thanks
[04:39] <ogra> file it against nautilus and add info that its caused by an ltsp patch and only happens on thin clients
[04:40] <ogra> it wouldnt happen if you were the only user on the server though ...
[04:40] <ogra> (the ture bug is that testuser got the device assigned)
[04:41] <ogra> you could disable device mounting in the gnome settings of testuser, that would prevent this bug i guess
[04:42] <ogra> (it wnt affect the thin client devices)
[04:42] <tsurc> how would i do that?
[04:43] <ogra> System->Settings->Removable devices ...
[04:43] <ogra> uncheck the options to automount devices and CDroms ...
[04:44] <ogra> if you now plug in the CD it should be owned by the admin user
[04:49] <tsurc> ;) that works
[04:55] <tsurc> still having problems with the screen viewer though. I get "Not Connected" ip, user, Unavailable (in red) install x11vnc on the client. Even though x11vnc is installed.
[05:00] <tsurc> *
[05:00] <tsurc> Is there any way of telling if a user has "OK"d a message sent through the thin-client-manager
[09:32] <bonbonthejon> Any contribs around who have the current handbook? I think I found an error.
[09:34] <ogra> fle a bug against the edubuntu-docs package :)
[09:34] <ogra> *file
[09:34] <bonbonthejon> ok
[09:35] <bonbonthejon> I dont know where it is, I found the screenshot in the handbook
[09:41] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-docs/+filebug just describe it roughly ... if someone of the doc team has a question bout it they wil ask on the bug
[09:46] <ogra> ahm, bug 110352 :)
[09:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 110352 in edubuntu-docs "Grammatical error in handbook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110352
[09:47] <ogra> oh, thats gnome-app-install, nice catch
[09:52] <bonbonthejon> I just did another one too
[09:52] <bonbonthejon> bug 110357
[09:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 110357 in edubuntu-docs "Add link in handbook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110357
[09:54] <bonbonthejon> ogra: I have a little experience setting up a software RAID under Ubuntu server, would there be a place for a small tutorial?
[09:56] <ogra> look what on the wiki already ...
[09:56] <ogra> *what's
[09:56] <bonbonthejon> ogra: the general ubuntu wiki? or does edubuntu have a wiki
[09:57] <ogra> they use the same database but different frontends and webservers
[09:57] <bonbonthejon> ok
[10:44] <LaserJock> ogra: have you merged all the edu stuff for gutsy?
[10:45] <ogra> haha
[10:45] <LaserJock> that's what I thought
[10:46] <ogra> June 21st is merge end ...
[10:46] <LaserJock> ok
[10:47] <LaserJock> hopefully merges.ubuntu.com will be back up shortly
[10:48] <ogra> tomorrowit should be back
[10:48] <ogra> HD failure
[10:48] <LaserJock> mhm, I saw some emails to Debian about it