[12:01] <Dev05> Np
[12:01] <Mez> KenSentMe: seeing as it's not in debian - try contacting the ubuntu maintainer
[12:01] <m4rk> drbashir: is it one of those exploding sony ones?
[12:01] <`m0> so anyone install gnome network manager?
[12:01] <Mez> KenSentMe, I believe that is dholbach
[12:01] <`m0> I don't know http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[12:01] <m4rk> `mo: yes i have
[12:02] <drbashir> No, its a Promedion, just noticed the difference between windows and ubuntu, that ubuntu really likes to suck on my batt power a lot :(
[12:02] <KenSentMe> Mez: thanx
[12:02] <m4rk> `m0: i'm using it as we speak. it's grrrrreatttt!
[12:02] <dalila> i have a printing issue, lexmark z45 was identified by ubuntu latest, however driver recommended is z42,  job stays in queue and also test page wont print,  any way to force the queue to print?
[12:02] <`m0> m4rk: i am having problems with it, how did you add it to the panel?
[12:02] <m4rk> oh yeah
[12:02] <KenSentMe> Mez: where did you find the package maintainer?
[12:02] <drbashir> Im just buse for less than an hour and its already 32% left from full
[12:03] <m4rk> `m0: err let me try to remember
[12:03] <m4rk> `m0: i remember it was there and i accidentally removed it
[12:03] <sergiol> I AM IN TROUBLE
[12:03] <Mez> KenSentMe, I acutally found it in the package - but best place to look is somewhere like here
[12:03] <Mez> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/penguintv/1.02-0ubuntu5
[12:03] <Melectaus--> Can somone helo me. i have my harddrive partitioned on my laptop, and installed ubuntu then windows. when installing windows it changed it from the grub bootloader to the windows one. i tried installing the grib bootloader from the ubuntu disc but cant get it to work. can anyone help me out??
[12:03] <Melectaus--> help*
[12:03] <Warbo> !grub > Melectaus--
[12:03] <drbashir> while I could work in windows for more than 2 1/2
[12:03] <dalila> anyone care to help me
[12:03] <Dev05> Melactaus--, Does GRUB start up at least?
[12:03] <dalila> i have a printing issue, lexmark z45 was identified by ubuntu latest, however driver recommended is z42,  job stays in queue and also test page wont print,  any way to force the queue to print?
[12:04] <`m0> m4rk: I really don't see that panel..
[12:04] <Mez> !tell Melectaus-- about grub
[12:04] <sergiol> i need very much ghostscript
[12:04] <`m0> m4rk: Can you please tell me how you installed it?
[12:04] <Dev05> !GRUB
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GRUB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <Dev05> !grub
[12:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:04] <`m0> m4rk: I really like this : http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png
[12:04] <Melectaus--> crap
[12:04] <sergiol> but its installation packages are getting each time worse
[12:04] <m4rk> `m0: i'm just trying to remember hang on
[12:05] <drbashir> where can I find "synce-serial-config"?
[12:05] <Melectaus--> is there anywhere i can download grub and burn it to disc to install it?
[12:05] <m4rk> `m0: yes t hat is how mine looks (but with different networks)
[12:05] <sergiol> now i have a message Can't find initialization file gs_init.ps.
[12:05] <`m0> m4rk: obviously:) Could you please guide me how you installed it?
[12:05] <pianoboy3333> I get a very interesting error when running gksudo synaptic: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:05] <Melectaus--> tried source forge but it only seemed to have different variations of grub
[12:05] <m4rk> you have to set some config file to allow network manager to manage your interfaces
[12:05] <Melectaus--> ?
[12:06] <jean> Hola
[12:06] <Melectaus--> is there anyone that could help me out?
[12:06] <Mez> Melectaus--, check the private message from ubotu
[12:06] <m4rk> `m0: so you add it in the standard add/remove thingy
[12:06] <Melectaus--> ohh my bad thanks
[12:06] <dalila> !lexmark
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <Fernand1> !xgl
[12:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:07] <m4rk> `m0: u done that yet m8?
[12:07] <`m0> m4rk: I really don't know how I installed it, I just apt-get gnome-network-manager
[12:07] <`m0> m4rk: I really don't know if that is the correct way
[12:07] <drbashir> where can I find "synce-serial-config"? pretty please?
[12:07] <dalila> does anyone know if lexmark z45 willl work with ubuntu 6.0.6
[12:08] <drbashir> my .synce dir is empty
[12:08] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, lexmark isnt notoriously good with ubuntu
[12:08] <m4rk> `m0: yep that's excellent
[12:08] <m4rk> so now you've tried to run it?
[12:08] <`m0> m4rk: is that how you did it?
[12:08] <`m0> m4rk: yes, cause I don't see it as it was in the picture
[12:09] <dalila> bigfuzzyjesus: no hope at all
[12:09] <k0shi> Can anyone help me with installing drivers for Senao NL-2511CD PLUS EXT2 200mw PCMCIA WiFi 802.1 card?
[12:10] <m4rk> `m0: you need to comment out everything in /etc/network/interfaces i think
[12:10] <poison> what is the difference between smbfs and cifs?
[12:10] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, i never said there was no hope
[12:10] <k0shi> Xubuntu is seeing it as a HermesI when in fact it is a Prism2
[12:10] <m4rk> `m0: to allow network manager to manage your interfaces
[12:10] <m4rk> i think that's how i did it
[12:10] <`m0> m4rk: What should I comment out?
[12:10] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, its just not going to be easy.... why dont you search the forums
[12:10] <dalila> i did search did not find anything
[12:11] <m4rk> `m0: everything except the loopback iface lo inet loopback
[12:11] <m4rk> and auto lo
[12:11] <k0shi> m4ark: Can you help me with some WiFi troubles?
[12:11] <k0shi> m4rk*
[12:11] <sergiol> people in #ghostscript is recommending me to ask my questions here
[12:11] <m4rk> k0shi: I am not an expert dude
[12:11] <sergiol> I AM IN TROUBLE
[12:12] <sergiol> i need very much ghostscript
[12:12] <m4rk> k0shi: I only installed this myself like 2 weeks ago and all i've used it for is surfing the net and chatting
[12:12] <k0shi> oh
[12:12] <sergiol> but its installation packages are getting each time worse
[12:12] <m4rk> k0shi: i can try
[12:12] <sergiol> now i have a message Can't find initialization file gs_init.ps.
[12:12] <nonex> PPl wtf?? problem synaptic
[12:12] <nonex> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:12] <TheGateKeeper> drbashir: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136257
[12:12] <k0shi> m4rk: You dont know about installing drivers for a PCMCIA card do you?
[12:12] <m4rk> k0shi: sorry mate i've never done it on ubuntu.
[12:13] <k0shi> thanks anyways
[12:13] <[sharma] > i have a strange problem : if i start the pc the network is disabled. then i have to click on activate in the network manager (eth0) , which results in an error message (could not activate) but then i can ping hosts in my own subnet. then i have to manually run "sudo route add default gw ip.of.gateway" to get wan access. do u have a suggestion so i can start the pc without configuring the network each time ?
[12:13] <m4rk> k0shi: try googling pcmcia wifi ubuntu howto or summink
[12:13] <k0shi> ok
[12:13] <drbashir> TheGateKeeper, Thx, and I saw in synaptic that I had to install synce-serial.... doh ^^
[12:13] <m0> m4rk: http://pastebin.ca/138037  what should I comment out here?
[12:14] <TheGateKeeper> drbashir: you have heard of google :-)  ---> synce-serial-config install ubuntu
[12:14] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, i dont know what to tell you, did you check the wiki?
[12:14] <m4rk> m0: everything but the first two lines
[12:14] <m4rk> m0: I think...
[12:14] <m4rk> so comment out lines 4->
[12:15] <m4rk> with # symbols
[12:15] <`m0> m4rk: including  auto eht0
[12:15] <`m0> ?
[12:15] <m4rk> you might have to re-start network manager or something im not sure
[12:15] <m4rk> `m0: yeah i think so
[12:15] <n3rdism> im having trouble mounting my secondary harddrive, says i have to mount it as root. i made adjusted my fstab and still isnt working, any ideas?
[12:15] <Jeruvy> ifdown/ifup, no restarting required
[12:16] <drbashir> TheGateKeeper, ehm, yeah, sorry, im usually good whith google, just my head isn't 100% right now :|
[12:16] <`m0> m4rk: I am done
[12:16] <m4rk> m0: this is how mine looks http://pastebin.ca/138040
[12:16] <redguy> n3rdism, did you add the 'user' option
[12:16] <xan_> Hi
[12:16] <`m0> m4rk: What should I do now
[12:16] <n3rdism> redguy: i just did defaults
[12:16] <redguy> n3rdism, or 'users'.. not sure
[12:16] <xan_> Can you help me with permisions with intel hda sound
[12:16] <drbashir> and im stressed a bit couse ubuntu like to drain power from my battery very fast
[12:16] <lamego> n3rdism, you need the user option to allow it to be mounted with a regular user
[12:16] <`m0> m4rk: yes :) it is similar
[12:16] <xan_> What are the dev I have to touch?
[12:17] <poison> does anyone know that main difference between CIFS and SMBFS? I can mount and read a windows share with CIFS I can mount using SMBFS but unable to read for some reason.
[12:17] <lamego> n3rdism, do you want it auto mounted on boot ?
[12:17] <n3rdism> lamego: ill try that
[12:17] <TheGateKeeper> drbashir: I cooking on gas tonight, can answer question which I know bugger all about :-) don't worry we all get those days
[12:17] <n3rdism> lamego: that'd be nice :D
[12:17] <`m0> m4rk: how do I run the the network manager now :)
[12:17] <lamego> n3rdism, so you dont need to care about mouting it with a regular user
[12:17] <lamego> n3rdism, add it to the fstab with the prorper options, and sudo mount -a
[12:17] <m4rk> nm-applet is the proggy i think
[12:17] <lamego> n3rdism, is it a ntfs partition ?
[12:17] <redguy> n3rdism, check man mount if you need the user or users option in your fstab to make the volume mountable by other users than root
[12:18] <ExxonValdeez> Is there a way to figure what build  a live cd is? As in is it for amd64 or the 32-bit build?
[12:18] <pianoboy3333> It appears my synaptic is borked when I try and run `gksudo synaptic` help would be appreciated, I have posted the error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21033
[12:18] <m4rk> I think you might gotta reboot or something
[12:18] <bigfuzzyjesus> dalila, i dont think there is a way... sorry
[12:18] <redguy> lamego, he won't neet the 'user' option if he's going to use sudo mount -a is he?
[12:18] <`m0> m4rk: okay
[12:18] <`m0> m4rk: Do you see the icon on the panel ?
[12:18] <FurryNemesis> pianoboy3333,
[12:18] <lamego> redguy, he doesnt care about the user option, he wants it mounted on boot also
[12:19] <n3rdism> lamego: its ext3 and when i do sudo mount -a it says /media/hdb1 does not exist
[12:19] <m4rk> yes `m0 but there was also some trick to get that running
[12:19] <ExxonValdeez> nvrmind
[12:19] <m4rk> you need to have a notification area showing, it appears in there
[12:19] <ExxonValdeez> got it
[12:19] <`m0> m4rk: Installing software on linux always deals with tricks :s
[12:20] <redguy> lamego, ah
[12:20] <pianoboy3333> FurryNemesis: yes.....?
[12:20] <nuxien> hello
[12:20] <m4rk> `m0: yeah it seems so but then it looks nice and funky and it has a cool start up sound
[12:20] <FurryNemesis> pianoboy3333, git a fix
[12:20] <nuxien> i would like to know the differences between testing and unstable
[12:20] <Volvo> hi where to look for "Sendmail Path", i need to submit a bug report and the tool wants something in the field
[12:20] <sparviero> S@luto tutto il Ch@nnel [ #ubuntu ]  --[ Siciliani Script v.1 ] -->>
[12:20] <Volvo> what should i do
[12:20] <FurryNemesis> pianoboy3333, had the same prob this morning, let me dig it up
[12:20] <m4rk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[12:20] <`m0> m4rk: hmm it rebootted
[12:21] <m4rk> OK
[12:21] <Kyja> ok I could use help with this... gnome baker was working now it wont launch. I have rebooted my computer as well and this still does not work for me.
[12:21] <FurryNemesis> pianoboy3333, here we go - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238668&highlight=libvte.so.4+synaptic
[12:21] <m4rk> there's lightning outside
[12:21] <FurryNemesis> there's a workaround here
[12:21] <`m0> m4rk: hehe
[12:22] <n3rdism> lamego: any idea why it says /media/hdb1 does not exist when i mount -a it?
[12:22] <adminx> hello room
[12:22] <xyblor> PROBLEM: Ubuntu doesn't want to connect remotely to my cygwin X11 server through SSH. It says "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)." When I login with the -Y switch to SSH, I get "error in locking authority file ~/.Xauthority. How do I fix this?
[12:22] <cfedde> hellow channel
[12:23] <m4rk> :o
[12:23] <m4rk> hi cfedde
[12:23] <CBMz> Umm. Hi. does anyone know of a free webhost panel?
[12:23] <cfedde> :-)
[12:24] <lamego> n3rdism, have you created the dir ?
[12:24] <lamego> n3rdism, sudo mkdir /media/hdb1
[12:24] <m4rk> what's the ubuntu command for traceroute anyone?
[12:24] <adminx> tracert
[12:24] <Mez> m4rk, tracert ?
[12:25] <n3rdism> lamego: duh LOL thanks >:D
[12:25] <m4rk> it dont seem to have it
[12:25] <m4rk> arse
[12:25] <ompaul> m4rk, less langauge and more sudo tracroute
[12:25] <lamego> n3rdism, for ntfs use the following options on fstab, defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[12:25] <ompaul> m4rk, sudo traceroute  << last one missing an e
[12:25] <m4rk> ompaul: heh...sudo: traceroute: command not found
[12:26] <n3rdism> lamego: thx but im going to be using ext3
[12:26] <lamego> traceroute is not installed by default
[12:26] <lamego> n3rdism, ok :)
[12:26] <m4rk> lamego: ahhh right that would explain it thanks
[12:26] <ompaul> sudo apt-get install traceroute
[12:27] <m4rk> ompaul: thanks dude
[12:28] <ompaul> m4rk, yw
[12:28] <m4rk> lol  traceroute: unknown host sakofa.mine.nu
[12:28] <n3rdism> is there a good video program i can watch dvd's with full menu support, or maybe something for vlc?
[12:28] <david_> I have a Mustek 2100LP  flatbed scanner which is not USB, it is very old but still works.  Can anyone help me install the appropriate driver?
[12:28] <ompaul> m4rk, you need to point it at a machine that exists :)
[12:28] <lamego> m4rk, it is usual to ping the system first :)
[12:28] <kevin> hello, while trying to build madwifi i get the error after doing; make. /bin/sh: line 0: cd /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory
[12:28] <NickGarvey> 17 hops to google eh
[12:28] <ebel> n3rdism, I though vlc did do dvd menus....
[12:28] <NickGarvey> kevin: get your kernel sources
[12:29] <m4rk> ah i found it
[12:29] <n3rdism> ebel: well maybe its this movie, otogi zoshi, its just not cutting to the menu right away and freaks out when i just say play dvd
[12:29] <ebel> Oh... Dunno about that...
[12:30] <`m0> hmm
[12:31] <ompaul> david_, parallel? check out xsane see if it has the necessary goodies
[12:31] <`m0> I cannot run network manager
[12:31] <`m0> it freezes
[12:31] <`m0> I am typing nm-applet, and it doesn't do anything
[12:31] <ompaul> !enter
[12:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:31] <Kyja> please, why has gnomebaker stopped working??
[12:31] <[sharma] > xfce4 roxx - it's much faster on a p III 450 than gnome
[12:31] <david_> ompaul:  xsane errors.  My printer (which is working) is connected to my Mustek 1200 LP then to my PC.
[12:32] <Warbo> When I try to start X I get: "EE Failed to load module "exa" (module requirement mismatch, 0)"
[12:32] <Zambezi> Anyone tried Seveas gftp?
[12:32] <[sharma] > mov eax, exa
[12:33] <ompaul> `m0, try  network-admin
[12:33] <Warbo> [sharma] : Sorry?
[12:33] <david_> ompaul:  xsane says No Device Found
[12:33] <kevin> NickGarvey, can i grab them through apt-get?
[12:33] <ompaul> `m0, better yet >> gksudo network-admin
[12:33] <jujimufu> I do "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17", just as it says in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild , but it says that this package does not exist. Any ideas?
[12:33] <[sharma] > just kiddin
[12:34] <Warbo> jujimufu: Are you using Dapper or Edgy?
[12:34] <`m0> ompaul: I wanted to let network manager take control of my network
[12:34] <jujimufu> Warbo: dapper
[12:34] <Warbo> jujimufu: That package isn't in Dapper. linux-source-2.6.15 is though
[12:34] <NickGarvey> kevin: yup.. I don't know the exact command though, but I'm sure someone knows
[12:34] <`m0> ompaul: I really don't understand why i don't see the icon on the top right
[12:34] <`m0> ompaul: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[12:35] <kevin> NickGarvey, thanks anyway. i got the headers too
[12:35] <kevin> who knows, i may need them.
[12:35] <trygg> What is /dev/wacom ?
[12:35] <trygg> X complains about me not having it, so it wont start
[12:35] <Warbo> trygg: A graphics tablet
[12:35] <DktrKranz> hello
[12:35] <m4rk> `m0: what happens when you try to launch it?
[12:35] <Warbo> trygg: Try messing around in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (# is a comment)
[12:36] <david_> so my printer is working and is connected to my Mustek 1200 LP flatbed scanner (which is not working yet, because XSane tells me no device found)  anyone have a suggestion?
[12:36] <TheBlue> Hi all, I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on my mom's new laptop, and she has a Linksys WPC54G PCMCIA 802.11g wireless card.  I have an unsecured wireless network, and her laptop simply refuses to connect to my network.
[12:36] <DktrKranz> i have a problem logging in into ubuntu wiki
[12:36] <`m0> m4rk: it says m0@m0=laptop:~$ nm-applet
[12:36] <trygg> Warbo: Something special i should look for?
[12:36] <DktrKranz> i fear i've selected "disable my account forever" :(
[12:36] <`m0> m4rk: And the cursor goes to the next line empty
[12:36] <DktrKranz> any suggestion?
[12:36] <lophyte> anyone know what package you need to enable ntfs support in gparted?
[12:36] <Warbo> trygg: There should be device sections for wacom, and in server bit at the bottom
[12:36] <Warbo> !into ntfs-progs
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about into ntfs-progs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <Warbo> dammit
[12:37] <lophyte> just the name is fine :P
[12:37] <lophyte> thanks
[12:37] <soundray> !info ntfsprogs
[12:37] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[12:37] <Warbo> No - (just ntfsprogs)
[12:37] <Warbo> Exactly
[12:37] <soundray> There you go Warbo, s/into/info/
[12:38] <Warbo> Oh yeah, I spelt info wrong. I'm a dumbass :)
[12:38] <trygg> Warbo: Really wierd, where has it come from? It wasnt there before
[12:38] <ompaul> `m0, done this yet?: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:38] <m4rk> `m0: what if you type ps -A|grep nm
[12:38] <Warbo> trygg: It is added by dpkg-reconfigure (I don't know if it is there by default)
[12:38] <`m0> ompaul: I removed it now and reinstalling it. Yes I did that
[12:39] <dalila> bigfuzzyjesus: looking
[12:39] <`m0> m4rk: i did that and i see a process assigned to it...
[12:39] <m4rk> OK
[12:39] <m4rk> do you have a notification area on one of your panels?
[12:40] <[sharma] > whats the grep syntax for "search in all files for a text file containing mailto: " ?
[12:40] <`m0> m4rk: no I don'
[12:40] <Warbo> Anyone know how to fix my module-mismatch problem for X? (posted above a bit) It happened after intalling xserver-xorg-air
[12:40] <m4rk> `m0: try adding one
[12:40] <Warbo> "cat * | grep "mailto[:] " I would think
[12:40] <soundray> [sharma] : you'd have to combine with find for that
[12:40] <`m0> m4rk: But where is the location of that panel?
[12:41] <`m0> m4rk: Network Monitor?
[12:41] <m4rk> `m0: what do you mean?
[12:41] <`m0> m4rk: How do I add one.
[12:41] <[sharma] > the cat one don't work...
[12:41] <Warbo> grep -f filename I think (so "grep -f * "mailto"")
[12:42] <m4rk> `m0: right click on the menu bar at the top of your screen and select Add
[12:42] <soundray> [sharma] : 'find . -iname *.txt -print0 | xargs -0 grep mailto: '
[12:42] <`m0> m4rk: yes, but which panel ? I don't see network manager
[12:42] <m4rk> I don't know :(
[12:43] <m4rk> `m0: do you have the panel
[12:44] <[sharma] > soundray: that works, ty
[12:44] <`m0> m4rk: no I don't have the panel
[12:44] <m4rk> argh i just deleted my panel!
[12:45] <xyblor> ls
[12:45] <`m0> lol
[12:45] <jon_> Hello
[12:45] <`m0> m4rk: how do you add it
[12:46] <jon_> I never want to use windows again
[12:46] <jon_> =)
[12:46] <soundray> jon_: why not? They can be very useful, if you want some daylight in a room, say...
[12:47] <poison> hello?
[12:47] <jon_> soundray: what do you mean?
[12:47] <ompaul> jon_, mine are PVC based
[12:47] <soundray> jon_: oh, you mean that proprietary operating system.
[12:47] <jon_> yes
[12:47] <jon_> i meant Microsoft Windows
[12:47] <ompaul> jon_, I used to have wooden ones
[12:47] <jon_> =P
[12:48] <floppyears> hi
[12:48] <floppyears> is there a command or way of telling what ram speed and  type of ram my pc uses ?
[12:48] <jon_> haha
[12:48] <dicesquirrel> Question... I want to install Blackshades (http://icculus.org/blackshades/) but it says the linux version is only available via SVN. I don't exactly know what this is, and I thought it might be a package, like CVS, so I tried sudo apt-get install svn, but there is no package by that name. What should I do?
[12:48] <ompaul> floppyears, try sudo lshw
[12:48] <Warbo> Wooden windows? You mean someone boarded them up?
[12:48] <lamego> dicesquirrel, the package name is subversion
[12:48] <poison> anyone know the main difference between CIFS and SMBFS?
[12:49] <dicesquirrel> Ah!
[12:49] <floppyears> awesome thanks ompaul
[12:49] <ompaul> Warbo, no replaced them with double glazing and I want someone to tell we are offtopic :)
[12:49] <jon_> whats so bad about offtopic =P
[12:49] <mcphail> !offtopic
[12:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:49] <jon_> i see
[12:50] <jon_> ty
[12:50] <dicesquirrel> lamego, do you know if there's a GUI wrapper for subversion. Basically, apt-get:synaptic::subversion:???
[12:50] <mcphail> ;)
[12:50] <soundray> jon_: nothing bad about it -- it should just be taken elsewhere
[12:50] <dicesquirrel> Something like that?
[12:50] <jon_> Has the #1 bug been fixed yet?
[12:50] <lamego> dicesquirrel, no idea
[12:50] <ompaul> m4rk, try gnome-panel
[12:51] <sorush20> how do I get a graphics table to work in linux is there anything like sane around?
[12:51] <ompaul> xsane
[12:51] <lamego> dicesquirrel, are you creating an installer ?
[12:51] <ompaul> jon_, we are applying patches on a daily basis
[12:51] <jon_> i see
[12:51] <poison> also when I added entries to fstab my mounts do not mount automatically I have to do a mount -a does this command need to go somewhere?
[12:52] <m4rk> i got it back thanks ompaul
[12:52] <ompaul> m4rk, great stuff
[12:52] <dicesquirrel> lamego, it gives me a source directory, so I'm making it from there. Looks like I need openAL and the SDL for it, though. Do you know what those packages are called, in apt-get?
[12:52] <Warbo> poison: fstab is mounted at boot or when mount -a is run
[12:52] <lamego> poison, make sure you have the "auto" option, or the "defaults" which includes it
[12:52] <`m0> m4rk: what was wrong
[12:53] <m4rk> i deleted it by accident
[12:53] <lamego> dicesquirrel, sudo apt-cache search openal dev
[12:53] <poison> Where is this auto option? do I add it to the end //servname/share nfs auto ?
[12:53] <`m0> m4rk: did you retrieve it
[12:54] <poison> I mean servername/share /mountpoint/mount auto?
[12:54] <lamego> poison, the /etc/fstab has a nice header naming each column :)
[12:54] <lamego> its the options column :)
[12:54] <poison> oh ok I gotcha
[12:54] <jon_>  The ubuntu installer needs more choices for the timezone setting
[12:55] <soundray> jon_: what's missing?
[12:55] <kevin> NickGarvey, that never worked either.
[12:55] <jon_> Or at least be able to set your timezone manually, e.g. GMT-6
[12:55] <jon_> well
[12:55] <jon_> i live in wisconsin, USA
[12:55] <kevin> i installed linux-source and linux-source-2.6.15
[12:55] <kevin> no differences.
[12:55] <jon_> in the timezone GMT -6:00
[12:55] <Tehcarp> Hello...
[12:55] <jon_> there is nothing even close to my state using GMT -6:00 at all
[12:56] <torpedo|dog> jon_: are you sure?
[12:56] <jon_> i'm pretty sure yeah
[12:56] <jon_> i looked
[12:56] <poison> I have one share that is on a windows box and I can mount it but not read unless I use CIFS instead of SMBFS. Is that normal?
[12:56] <clee> does edgy's gnome-panel flicker angrily at anyone else here?
[12:56] <soundray> jon_: that's bog standard, you need to look again
[12:56] <Tehcarp> Jon, use canada
[12:56] <torpedo|dog> jon_: you should just pick Chicago, since that's a city in Central time
[12:56] <Warbo> I would think that anything using GMT-6 would be OK. The only weird stuff is like choosing London gives you BST (British Summer Time)
[12:56] <lamego> poison, as far as I know smbfs is enough to read windows/samba shares
[12:57] <jon_> does chicago use gmt-6?
[12:57] <torpedo|dog> jon_: it is configured using cities so that it is intelligent about daylight saving time.
[12:57] <Tehcarp> Anyone super skilled in this whole linux thing that could talk me through how I might get this one game I just love to play to work on Linux??? It's not a complicated game or anything... it's just Apprentice
[12:57] <poison> I was able to read and write a couple of days ago but now for some reason I can not unless I mount as CIFS
[12:57] <torpedo|dog> jon_: you're in central time, so is Chicago
[12:57] <lamego> Tehcarp, is it a linux game ?
[12:57] <torpedo|dog> jon_: that and technically it's UTC-5 right now ;)
[12:57] <eyeinthesky> hi to all
[12:58] <lamego> i mean, linux version
[12:58] <rustlerharv> i almost thought my linux was a gonner
[12:58] <Tehcarp> no, but It would be cool of you if you looked at it to see if it was possible
[12:58] <jon_> wait what
[12:58] <jon_> aggh whatever
[12:58] <lamego> Tehcarp, so you should be looking for help on a Wine channel :)
[12:58] <Tehcarp> I can get a link to it for you...
[12:58] <Tehcarp> Ok, what is a wine channel?
[12:58] <lamego> Wine/Cedega
[12:58] <Tehcarp> #wine ?
[12:58] <lamego> no idea if there is a channel on freenode for it
[12:58] <bbrazil> #winehq
[12:59] <torpedo|dog> jon_: just use Chicago and don't worry :)
[12:59] <eyeinthesky> anyone who tries to run xgl with ati 9550 with dapper ?
[12:59] <jeff303> getting this in a FF crash (on the std err I assume): The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.  This probably reflects a bug in the program.  The error was 'BadShmSeg (invalid shared segment parameter)'
[12:59] <unkn0wn2u> I upgraded from breezy and now mplayer doesn't start and says missing libpolyp-0.8.so.0 , what should i do?
[12:59] <lamego> Tehcarp, also give a read on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:00] <jujimufu> I just did "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15" and it finished, but there are no new files in /usr/src/
[01:00] <Tehcarp> k thanks lamego
[01:00] <lamego> Juftus, you will need to untar the file yourself
[01:00] <lamego> its linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 on /usr/src
[01:00] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: try this: 'sudo apt-get install libao-polyp'
[01:00] <soundray> jeff303: are you running Xgl?
[01:01] <rustlerharv> is there any way to get more fonts for open office
[01:01] <Malagmyr> I'm using the graphical installer on the livecd. If I resize my NTFS partition, do I lose all the data, or will WinXP still be bootable with some work?
[01:01] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, not found
[01:01] <KillerDemon> does anybody know how to remove windows vista (on a apart partition) without making the old xp partition unbootable? because i want to install linux on the vista paprtition
[01:01] <soundray> !info libao-polyp
[01:01] <ubotu> Package libao-polyp does not exist in dapper
[01:01] <soundray> oh
[01:01] <NickGarvey> Malagmyr: defrag first!
[01:01] <Tehcarp> The game I am trying to play is nowhere near as complicated as WoW or BF2
[01:01] <Tehcarp> it's a 2d card game...
[01:01] <lamego> Tehcarp, so try it with wine
[01:01] <IceOwl> Malagmyr: I would recommend against resizing partitions, especially those for other operating systems
[01:02] <kitche> Malagmyr: that is a tricky part since you might lose some data if you partition the ntfs down to far
[01:02] <TheGame> is there a way to edit whats in the places menu in gnome
[01:02] <soundray> !info libpolyp0
[01:02] <ubotu> Package libpolyp0 does not exist in dapper
[01:02] <lamego> Tehcarp, sudo atp-get install wine
[01:02] <lamego> ops, apt
[01:02] <TheGame> like i want to get rid of the desktop item on th eplaces menu
[01:02] <Malagmyr> Thanks, guys. I'll run some windowsy partition programs to downsize the partition first then
[01:03] <Warbo> I would recommend GParted over any Windows partitioner
[01:03] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, libpolyp0 exists in breezy
[01:03] <Warbo> the Linux NTFS resizing tools have never destroyed a partiton when used correctly, I believe
[01:03] <Icebox> hi, i was wondering how the latest ubuntu will run on a 333mhz celeron with 128mb memory. will it be usable?
[01:04] <Warbo> Icebox: Use Xubuntu or some other desktop environment (like Fluxbox)
[01:04] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: mplayer shouldn't depend on anything that doesn't exist any more. Have you upgraded mplayer along with your system?
[01:04] <Icebox> kde/gnome will be frustrating? hehe
[01:04] <KillerDemon> if i install ubuntu over a win vista partition (with xp on another hdd) can grub just boot xp?
[01:04] <Icebox> never tried it out on such an old box
[01:04] <mcphail> TheGame: if you find out about editing that menu, let me know
[01:05] <soundray> KillerDemon: probably. If not, you'll find grub info on the wiki.
[01:05] <TheGame> will do
[01:05] <lamego> Icebox, also use the text mode installer, alternate cd
[01:05] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, I think so , but what is the latest version in ubuntu
[01:05] <KillerDemon> okay, because normally if i remove the vista partition xp becomes unbootable :s (missing files)
[01:06] <`m0> m4rk: any news how to retrieve the network manager gnome icon to the panel
[01:06] <TheGame> mcphail: im reading that it cant be done
[01:06] <lamego> KillerDemon, I guess that is because you will change the partition names inside windows, by deleting one partition...
[01:06] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: here, it is "Installed: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8". But this is amd64. Do an 'apt-cache policy mplayer'
[01:06] <mcphail> TheGame: where?
[01:06] <TheGame> ubuntuforums
[01:07] <timalot> anyone know why the update manger doesnt show the changelog of package updates anymore? this is becoming like wild west world of window updates....
[01:07] <timalot> s
[01:07] <mcphail> TheGame: i doubt it is impossible - probably just an obscure binary file somewhere
[01:07] <Icebox> Whats the difference with ubuntu and kubuntu? :o
[01:07] <KillerDemon> no lamego my vista partition is  v:  and hda is c: (where xp is on)  but vista still messes up xp
[01:08] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8
[01:08] <Ermanno> ubuntu is gnome based, kubuntu is KDE based
[01:08] <m4rk> `m0: do you ha ve a panel?
[01:08] <lamego> killefiz, partition names dont have nothing to do with drive letters
[01:08] <lamego> erm, i mean KillerDemon
[01:08] <m4rk> `m0: right click on a panel and click `add`
[01:08] <lamego> anyway, windows discussions are offtopic :)
[01:08] <m4rk> Add to Panel
[01:09] <KillerDemon> lamego yes, but the vista partition is the only part. on hdb
[01:09] <dalila> !printing
[01:09] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:09] <kitche> lamego: it's not offtopic if he doesn't want to emss up his xp partition while installing ubuntu I think
[01:09] <Ropechoborra> How do i change the owner of a partition?
[01:09] <KillerDemon> kitche  yep :)
[01:10] <dalila> Ropechoborra: u mean mount point?
[01:10] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: partitions don't have owners
[01:10] <lamego> well, the doubt is not about installing ubuntu, is about deleting vista :P
[01:10] <Mukunda> Hmm anyone here using an intel 950? I'm having problems with playing h264 video.
[01:10] <farous> need a recomendation here have to options for external HD a comstar 300gb which is basically a Maxtor 6L 300 R0 drive and the other option is a maxtor 200gb one touch II hd. Any recommend which is better in terms of heat and spinning down when not used specifically
[01:10] <tyler_d> I am used to using macromedia dreamweaver, and would like a program similair to that for ubuntu?
[01:10] <KillerDemon> the plan is to install ubuntu over the vista part.  :)
[01:10] <Flannel> tyler_d: nvu
[01:10] <lamego> Ropechoborra, please specify your problem instead of a non sense question :)
[01:10] <`m0> m4rk :I do have a panel
[01:10] <TheGame> maybe so mcphail
[01:10] <Ropechoborra> Flannel dalila , for eg. i got an fat32, but every file in there are owned by root, when i try to do sudo chown it says that im not allowed
[01:10] <`m0> m4rk: what do I do next?
[01:11] <TheGame> but i probably wont spend that time looking for it
[01:11] <kevin> people, im geting the error "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build was not found" when i try to build madwifi using; make. I downloaded the sources, and headers. Anyone got an idea why?
[01:11] <m4rk> `m0: right click on it and select Add to Panel
[01:11] <Ropechoborra> I supouse its a fstab problem
[01:11] <tyler_d> Flannel: is that a regular pack, or do I need to get it from somewhere?
[01:11] <Flannel> Ropechoborra: you need to fix your umask, in fstab
[01:11] <lamego> KillerDemon, deleting a partition does not touch the other partitions, what it can affect is the partitions naming/ids
[01:11] <Ropechoborra> I got this /dev/hda2       /media/hda2 vfat umask=0000 0 0
[01:11] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, oops i had mplayer and mplayer-686 installed
[01:11] <Flannel> tyler_d: its in the repositories... main, i think.  might be universe
[01:11] <farous> Ropechoborra: : this is specified in our fstab file
[01:11] <`m0> m4rk: Yes, I know, but what Do I add/
[01:11] <Mukunda> Guess not.
[01:11] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: strange, that shouldn't be possible...
[01:12] <lamego> Ropechoborra, you can't change owners on fat partitions
[01:12] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: how did you do your upgrade?
[01:12] <lamego> whats the problem on having them owned by root :P ?
[01:12] <m4rk> `m0: a Notification Area
[01:12] <unkn0wn2u> soundray, i made a deb in breezy
[01:12] <lamego> you are using a 0000 umask ...
[01:12] <trygg> What are the available drivers for keyboard-section in xorg-conf? I have xkb and it fails.
[01:12] <Ropechoborra> lamego :S what do i do then?
[01:12] <soundray> unkn0wn2u: I mean, your breezy to dapper upgrade
[01:12] <KillerDemon> lamego, i ment that my bios boots hda (xp) and vista is on hdb, but when i delete the hdb partition the xp partition doesnt boot anymore
[01:13] <lamego> Ropechoborra, why would you do it ? FAT doesn't know about your linux users :)
[01:13] <dalila> anyone able to use a lexmarkz45 printer with linux or know if it will work
[01:13] <unkn0wn2u> apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:13] <m4rk> lexmark sux
[01:13] <kitche> KillerDemon grub should be able to boot windows xp fine if you install it correctly
[01:13] <Ropechoborra> lamego i got some files there without writing permission
[01:13] <unkn0wn2u> wtf apt-get install mplayer-386 deps on mplayer
[01:13] <`m0> m4rk: AHHH your da man :D
[01:13] <dalila> m4rk: i am doing a fsavor and trying to configure a laptop for my sis
[01:14] <KillerDemon> okay kitche i will just try it then :)
[01:14] <dalila> she has a lexmark printer
[01:14] <m4rk> dalila: how old is she?
[01:14] <tuxtux_> good night
[01:14] <lamego> Ropechoborra, with umask 000 you are getting writing permission problems ?
[01:14] <Kyja> PLEASE !! Why has gnomebaker all of a sudden stopped launching ???
[01:14] <kitche> KillerDemon: I would explain it but I m not familiar in dual booting anymore
[01:14] <ompaul> !shout
[01:14] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:14] <RAZVRATNIK>             !!!!!!!!!
[01:14] <lamego> Kyja, open it on a terminal, and look for the error
[01:14] <m4rk> `m0: it's working? cool
[01:15] <Icebox> So, how much space does a default ubuntu installation use?
[01:15] <RAZVRATNIK>
[01:15] <RAZVRATNIK>
[01:15] <Ropechoborra> lamego No, there are some files in the fat that are only writable by root
[01:15] <Kyja> ready?
[01:15] <Kyja> GTK Accessibility Module initialized
[01:15] <Kyja> GThread-ERROR **: GThread system may only be initialized once.
[01:15] <Kyja> aborting...
[01:15] <byen> quick question.. how do i prevent Ubuntu from making a .trash folder in every drive?
[01:15] <Kyja> Aborted
[01:15] <Kyja> kyja@ubuntu:~$
[01:15] <KillerDemon> kitche, it's just that my xp part. redirects to the vista bootloader, to boot xp with that
[01:15] <KillerDemon> stupid vista
[01:15] <KillerDemon> etc.
[01:15] <Kyja> it does not show up in the list of prosseses
[01:16] <lamego> Ropechoborra, that is very unlikely, anyway you can set the user with wich the files are mounted on fstab
[01:16] <lamego> just add uid=id
[01:16] <ompaul> Kyja, you should not paste in this chaannel you should paste in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:16] <lamego> of your userid
[01:16] <Kyja> oh ic ok I will rememb er that sorry
[01:17] <lamego> byen, a dirty solution would be to chmod 000 on it :P
[01:17] <byen> lamego, i remember chaging some setting on gconf to fix this on Breezy ..i just dont remember where
[01:17] <TheGame> some1 want to tell me why gdesklets weather cant retrieve my city
[01:17] <Ropechoborra> lamego what? the problem is that i got some files (not all, but some) without the writing permission, and i cant change it because it doesnt allow  me to do it. What can i do to change its permissions?
[01:18] <lamego> Ropechoborra, you can't , please read my last lines about setting the uid on the fstab
[01:18] <soundray> TheGame: other people have reported this - probably a server-side problem
[01:18] <lamego> but it is very unlike that you can write to them with umask 000
[01:19] <Icebox> So, how much space does a default ubuntu installation use?
[01:19] <Ropechoborra> lamego you mean i can set the owner of the files from fstab?
[01:19] <TheGame> oh
[01:20] <lamego> yes
[01:20] <Ropechoborra> :) nice
[01:20] <Ropechoborra> How?
[01:20] <ompaul> Kyja, think if you do >> killall gnomebaker<< in a terminal you might have some luck the next time you try it
[01:20] <lamego> Icebox, about 2 GBs
[01:20] <deltab> 2.3
[01:20] <Kyja> ah I will try that thx ompaul
[01:20] <trygg> Warbo: Do you have any idea what i should do about 'bad length in Compatmap'?
[01:20] <b0ysc0ut> hello yall
[01:21] <Bassetts> how can i make ssh log me in automatically
[01:21] <deltab> use keys and ssh-agent
[01:21] <rob_p> Bassetts, Use public-key authentication.
[01:21] <Bassetts> is there a howto?
[01:22] <soundray> Bassetts: generate a key pair and add the .pub part to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote host
[01:22] <trygg> How do i change the message that comes up when i log into my user?
[01:22] <deltab> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/
[01:22] <soundray> Bassetts: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/
[01:22] <Kyja> ompaul: funny, it tells me no proccess is killed and still complains about the thread system.
[01:22] <b0ysc0ut> problems with the Java
[01:22] <b0ysc0ut> anyone?
[01:22] <Kyja> oh :O
[01:22] <soundray> trygg: edit /etc/motd
[01:23] <Kyja> threading to the device
[01:23] <ompaul> Kyja, it is confused - methinks a reboot might be in order
[01:23] <Kyja> I may have a nother burner as a conflict
[01:23] <lamego> !! anyone
[01:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:23] <Kyja> I have rebooted and also uninstalled and reinstalled gnomebaker
[01:23] <trygg> soundray: thanks!
[01:23] <ompaul> b0ysc0ut, so ask the channel your question (don't ask me I don't know anything about that stuff)
[01:23] <Kyja> its realy strange thing.
[01:24] <lamego> byen, as far i could see there is an option just to make it invisible
[01:24] <`m0> m4rk: Yes :) Works nice!
[01:24] <lamego> it is still created
[01:24] <m4rk> `m0: nice one m8
[01:24] <lamego> setting it chmod 000 should work
[01:24] <Ropechoborra> lamego wich umask should be to set the owner of the fat?
[01:24] <lmosher> I installed Ubuntu on /dev/hda2 then XP on /dev/hda3 and of course XP installed over the MBR. I know there's a pretty easy method to re-install Grub in the MBR from the liveDVD - what's the method?
[01:24] <m4rk> any good secure irc client
[01:24] <lamego> Ropechoborra, dont change it
[01:24] <Ropechoborra> What should i do then?
[01:24] <lamego> lmosher, boot the live cd with rescue mode
[01:25] <soundray> lmosher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:25] <lmosher> lamego, and then do what? it'll just take care of it? heh
[01:25] <lamego> then sudo grub-install partition
[01:25] <lmosher> ok ty
[01:25] <lamego> lmosher, no, you will need to tell it to install :P
[01:25] <`m0> wow everything is working on ubuntu :) EXCEPT XG L
[01:25] <lamego> erm wait
[01:25] <lamego> not partition
[01:25] <lamego> device
[01:25] <lmosher> I knew what you meant. grub doesn't go in a partition :P
[01:25] <Flannel> `m0: XGL isn't supported yet
[01:25] <lamego> make sure you know the device name of the disk: fdisk -l
[01:25] <`m0> AIGLX
[01:25] <lamego> ok :)
[01:26] <lmosher> XGL works great for me
[01:26] <Warbo> `m0: You using XGL or AIGLX?
[01:26] <KillerDemon> `m0 on xubuntu 6.10 xgl works out of the box
[01:26] <`m0> :) A guy from #ubuntu-xgl was helping us and it doesn't work great, it freezes
[01:26] <`m0> Warbo: AIGLX
[01:26] <lmosher> `m0, what card? it's really pretty easy if you follow the guide on help.ubuntu.com
[01:26] <Warbo> `m0: Watch out if you follow the Wiki page, it screwed my Xorg (I put a warning on it)
[01:26] <`m0> KillerDemon: Hmmm I have the newst Ubuntu build
[01:27] <KillerDemon> yes
[01:27] <KillerDemon> i sais xubuntu :)
[01:27] <KillerDemon> *said
[01:27] <tyler_d> how do Install just one extra font??
[01:27] <`m0> lmosher: Hmm the guy who did the docs helped us, but both of us experienced freezes
[01:27] <Warbo> !fonts
[01:27] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:27] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:27] <`m0> lmosher: I have a Intel Video Card
[01:28] <`m0> Warbo: hmm :s I have no warning, but when I run the Compiz it freezes
[01:28] <KillerDemon> intell has a special open source site `m0
[01:28] <Kyja> oh man I saw somewhere where you can get the font used in the Ubuntu flash screen.
[01:28] <`m0> KillerDemon: What is xbuntu ?
[01:28] <Warbo> I got Compiz working in AIGLX on my Radeon, but it was damn slow so I got rid of it. Problem is that I have to use AIGLX now because Xorg doesn't work
[01:28] <deltab> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/12/download-and-install-the-ubuntu-title-font/
[01:28] <Warbo> `m0: I mean I added a warning to the page on help.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <TheGame> y do people use xubuntu
[01:28] <KillerDemon> `m0 www.xubuntu.com
[01:28] <CptBrutal> anyone have or use a wireless game controller (USB)? does it work? or should it atleast?
[01:28] <TheGame> i dont see how its better than kde or gnome
[01:29] <sergiol> $ whereis gs
[01:29] <sergiol> gs: /usr/bin/gs /usr/bin/X11/gs /usr/share/man/man1/gs.1.gz
[01:29] <sergiol> sergio@ubuntuCopyCenter:~$ gs
[01:29] <sergiol> bash: /usr/local/bin/gs: No such file or directory
[01:29] <Warbo> TheGame: It takes less resources
[01:29] <KillerDemon> TheGame i use xubuntu on a amd k6 400mhz
[01:29] <`m0> KillerDemon: ah no need to reinstall ubunty lol
[01:29] <lamego> TheBlue, xubuntu is usually used on lower resource systems
[01:29] <sergiol> can  somebody explain me that?
[01:29] <TheGame> o
[01:29] <lamego> erm, TheGame
[01:29] <TheGame> what
[01:29] <Warbo> I don't like Xubuntu personally, and like Fluxbox on slow systems, but each to his own
[01:29] <TheGame> so y not use dsl
[01:29] <tyler_d> ok... now where can I get ubuntu fonts?
[01:30] <soundray> sergiol: 'sudo mv /usr/local/bin/gs /usr/local/bin/gs-moved', then try again
[01:30] <Warbo> #DSL uses WindowMaker or Fluxbox I think
[01:30] <MaxL> How do I get amaRok to find my network? Where all my music is located.
[01:30] <TheGame> what program do most people use to update their ipod
[01:30] <lamego> seraphim, `which gs`
[01:30] <`m0> anyone here familiar with glxinfo Information?
[01:30] <lamego> erm, i meant sergiol
[01:30] <tyler_d> gtpod
[01:30] <KillerDemon> but xubuntu has xgl working out of-the-box, even on a ati rage lt 8mb
[01:30] <sergiol> why when i do gs it is poiting me to a
[01:30] <sergiol> mv: cannot stat `/usr/local/bin/gs': No such file or directory
[01:30] <Warbo> `m0: Only the Direct Rendering part
[01:30] <tyler_d> TheGame: TheGame
[01:30] <lamego> `m0, just about seeing if 3d hw is on/off :)
[01:30] <TheGame> ?
[01:30] <soundray> sergiol: 'sudo mv /usr/local/bin/gs /usr/local/bin/gs-moved', then try again
[01:31] <`m0> hmm :)
[01:31] <jrib> when I press ctrl-alt-f8 there seems to be another instance of X starting, it's loading my startup scripts and such.  How can I stop this?
[01:31] <`m0> Okay lets see :)
[01:31] <tyler_d> TheGame: sorry, gtkpod
[01:31] <ych> ok, ive got a problem here... my internet isnt working... if i use the graphic interface (system --> preferences --> networking) to set a static IP, I can access my router and everything on my local area network. but I cant get to anything in the www. and if i set to DHCP, like i used to set it to, i cant even do anything in lan
[01:31] <Warbo> jrib: Those are the boot messages
[01:31] <soundray> sergiol: most likely, you have a rogue gs lying around in /usr/local/bin
[01:31] <TheGame> gtkpod will check it out
[01:31] <m0> http://pastebin.ca/138120
[01:31] <sergiol> the file doe not exit
[01:31] <m0> :)
[01:31] <lamego> sergiol, try which gs
[01:31] <LuisMendes> where can I get 'ximagesrc' in order to run Istambul on Dapper?
[01:31] <tyler_d> TheGame: sudo apt-get install gtkpod... I think, I'm still new
[01:31] <jrib> Warbo: oh, so those are always there.  Good, I was wondering what was going on
[01:31] <sergiol> $ which gs
[01:31] <sergiol> /usr/bin/gs
[01:31] <TheGame> will see
[01:32] <`m0> Take a look at this link: Do you guys have any idea why I have those warnings: http://pastebin.ca/138120
[01:32] <tomasz27> Hi ALL
[01:32] <lamego> sergiol, i have seen that happening before, whereis did some kind of caching
[01:32] <warlock__> Does anyone know how to make my motd display the IP im connected from?
[01:32] <TheGame> ya tyler_d ur right
[01:32] <TheGame> it worked
[01:32] <tyler_d> TheGame: yay for me
[01:32] <mcphail> lamego: bash caches the locations of executable files
[01:33] <tyler_d> TheGame: make sure that you unmount that before unplugging it
[01:33] <lamego> mcphail, ok, that explains it :)
[01:33] <tyler_d> TheGame: otherwise it gets messed and you need to reboot...
[01:33] <sergiol> is it a good idea to reboot?
[01:33] <TheGame> is there an unmount feature in the program
[01:33] <tomasz27> What does "enable SSH" mean? As a regular home user of Ubuntu should I worry about this?
[01:33] <Dodzey> ive got a strange problem, synaptic errors out saying that libvte.so.4 can't be found
[01:33] <lamego> sergiol, you dont need to reboot, just call it with the full path
[01:33] <TheGame> or do i do it in terminal
[01:33] <MaxL> does anyone use amarok
[01:33] <Warbo> MaxL: I do
[01:33] <nopcode> tomasz27: you should worry about not knowing what ssh is
[01:33] <mcphail> lamego: there is a command line switch which turns it off
[01:33] <sergiol> lamgo: portugus?
[01:33] <tyler_d> TheGame: no, in term.... sudo umount "insert ipod name here"
[01:34] <lamego> sergiol, yes
[01:34] <sergiol> lamego: portugus?
[01:34] <tomasz27> please tell me
[01:34] <TheGame> o
[01:34] <tyler_d> TheGame: again, I'm new.....
[01:34] <sergiol> eu tambm
[01:34] <MaxL> Warbo: CAn you listen to music over a network? Or is your computer just on your pc.
[01:34] <lamego> sergiol, erm, thats for #ubuntu-pt
[01:34] <lamego> :P
[01:34] <TheGame> i see
[01:34] <tyler_d> fonts? anyone know where I can get extra's?
[01:34] <lamego> !! fonts
[01:34] <TheGame> ya
[01:34] <Warbo> MaxL: I don't have a network
[01:34] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:34] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:34] <TheGame> tyler i use patched libcairo pckgs
[01:34] <jujimufu> I just untarred the linux-sources-2.6.15 file in /usr/src, and when I get on /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6.15, there is absolutely NO folder named "debian", which the tutorial on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild suggest.
[01:34] <jujimufu> s
[01:34] <ych> MaxL it has to be locally mounted
[01:34] <TheGame> and they look good
[01:34] <sergiol>  /j #ubuntu.pt leva-me a um canal vazio
[01:34] <Warbo> KDE integrates network directories well, so I would think that Amarok can use them like normal folders
[01:34] <ych> if you use samba for network, you cant play it
[01:34] <lamego> sergiol, #ubuntu-pt
[01:35] <MaxL> ych: I'm pretty sure its mounted. o_o;;
[01:35] <sergiol>  /j #ubuntu-pt
[01:35] <ych> but if you use NFS you can mount the remote dir locally
[01:35] <soundray> warlock__: don't use motd for that. Just add 'echo $SSH_CLIENT' to $HOME/.bashrc
[01:35] <ych> well, if the location of the file you want to play starts with / it'll work
[01:35] <david_> Does faad preserve tag information?
[01:35] <ych> otherwise its not local enough
[01:35] <Warbo> lol
[01:35] <ych> i had the same problem
[01:35] <ych> trying to play stuff off my win machine
[01:36] <ych> but now i have my files on a linux server
[01:36] <MaxL> ych: How do you locally mount something?
[01:36] <ych> ummmm, if youre using samba, i think its not possible
[01:36] <jujimufu> I just untarred the linux-sources-2.6.15 file in /usr/src, and when I get on /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6.15, there is absolutely NO folder named "debian", which the tutorial on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild suggests.
[01:36] <nso> Question: I downloaded a windows OS that wont actualy boot at startup but it will as a program. And when I try to install Windows through Ubuntu it gives me an error message saying I need to use 'Dynamic Update'. Anyone ever had this problem?
[01:36] <MaxL> ych: Samba?
[01:36] <ych> windows share
[01:36] <chrisbudden14> whats ubuntu's default font?
[01:36] <jujimufu> MaxL: you do "sudo mount /dev/devicename /media/devicename
[01:37] <ych> where is this file youre trying to play?
[01:37] <lamego> jujimufu, the wiki was outdated the last time i have checked it
[01:37] <warlock__> soundray, and exactly what does it do?
[01:37] <MaxL> jujimufu, thanks
[01:37] <wabz> what has happened to my fonts!!! everything is unreadable!!!
[01:37] <wabz> in a recent update
[01:37] <tyler_d> TheGame: how did you get those installed?
[01:37] <soundray> warlock__: it shows the content of the variable SSH_CLIENT, which is set when you login remotely through ssh
[01:38] <ych> anyone able to help me?
[01:38] <wabz> is this font thing a known issue? why has an update managed to screw up my fonts so badly?
[01:38] <ych> ok, ive got a problem here... my internet isnt working... if i use the graphic interface (system --> preferences --> networking) to set a static IP, I can access my router and everything on my local area network. but I cant get to anything in the www. and if i set to DHCP, like i used to set it to, i cant even do anything in lan
[01:38] <MaxL> jujimufu, so dev stays dev? Devicename is the name of the device, you leave media as media and you leave devicename as whatever, is the devicename the IP Adress? (:
[01:38] <Bassetts> how can i make a shell script to login to my shell account over ssh then run a shell script on the server then exit?
[01:38] <wefwef> k
[01:38] <jujimufu> MaxL: what do you want to mount exactly?
[01:38] <andrej> Hi - which package do I net to apt-get to get the man-pages for the standard-library, e.g. looking up printf?
[01:39] <Melectaus--> I installed ubuntu, then windows. Dows has installed its bootloader and now i have lost grub, anyone know how to get it back?
[01:39] <MaxL> jujimufu, I have another computer in my basement connected through my network that has all my music on it. I want to mount it on to my computer.
[01:39] <andrej> And no, not man 1 printf, I want man 3 :)
[01:39] <soundray> Bassetts: don't do that. Follow the guide I pointed you to earlier
[01:39] <ych> MaxL, if its a windows computer it wont work
[01:39] <ych> if its a linux computer look at
[01:39] <ych> !nfs
[01:39] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:39] <MaxL> ych: So it has to be a linux computer?
[01:39] <Bassetts> soundray, it log in now, but i want it to run a script on the ssh account once logged in...
[01:39] <jujimufu> MaxL: you must manage to get these two PCs connected. If the other Pc is running windows, you must use samba.
[01:39] <ych> so it seems
[01:39] <ych> unless you install nfs on windows
[01:39] <`m0> hi
[01:39] <Melectaus--> I installed ubuntu, then windows. Dows has installed its bootloader and now i have lost grub, anyone know how to get it back?? please somone help
[01:39] <jujimufu> ych: not necessary. I've managed to share files with windows
[01:39] <MaxL> jujimufu: Where can I get Samba
[01:39] <ych> google for it
[01:39] <ych> !samba
[01:39] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:39] <`m0> is it a good idea to download drivers from INTEL?
[01:39] <soundray> Bassetts: look down on the page to the section "Single-purpose keys"
[01:39] <jujimufu> MaxL: I think it's already installed, isn't it?
[01:40] <ych> yes, you can share files with windows
[01:40] <ych> but you cant play them with amarok
[01:40] <MaxL> jujimufu: I'm pretty sure o-o;
[01:40] <wabz> changing the subpixel order in the font rendering details drastically changes font spacing too?@!??
[01:40] <soundray> Bassetts: that way you save all the logging in and out
[01:40] <ych> however MaxL, if you just want to play the files
[01:40] <`m0> Or does the latest Build have the latest drivers?
[01:40] <ych> try opening them with totem
[01:40] <ych> that works over samba
[01:40] <jujimufu> MaxL: do you know the IP of the other PC?
[01:41] <soundray> Bassetts: you could of course just do 'ssh user@remotehost scriptname', but then you need passwords or general-purpose keys
[01:41] <MaxL> jujimufu: yeah I know it I can acsess the files with totem.
[01:41] <jujimufu> MaxL: if you can access them, then why can't you play them?
[01:41] <mcphail> Bassetts: i'm fairly sure you can run a one time command with: ssh user@host 'whatever_your_command_is'
[01:41] <Melectaus--> Can somone please help me???
[01:41] <ych> it seems to have something to do with the players using different libraries to access the files, but in amarok a file location has to begin with /
[01:42] <soundray> Melectaus--: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:42] <wabz> this is ridiculous - my fonts look _really_ bad - am i the only one with this issue?
[01:42] <Melectaus--> thanks
[01:42] <ych> i spent a week trying to do that with a remote windows machine
[01:42] <MaxL> jujumufu: I don't know Amarok just won't play them.
[01:42] <ych> and couldnt find a way to make it work
[01:42] <basbryan> my synaptic won't start.  i get the message: "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" after upgrading packages.  is anyone else having this problem after updating today?
[01:42] <MaxL> jujumufu: I cannot find the network when I browse either.
[01:42] <ych> MaxL, i tried it for over a week, afaik it wont work
[01:42] <ych> unless you install nfs on the windows comp
[01:43] <ych> I, instead installed linux on the windows comp
[01:43] <ych> problem solved
[01:43] <MaxL> HAha
[01:43] <jujimufu> ych: it could also be done with installing  WinSCP
[01:43] <jujimufu> ych: and running ssh from linux
[01:43] <jujimufu> no?
[01:43] <MaxL> ych: The computer is running windows 98 it's like a pentium 2.
[01:43] <wabz> http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ubuntufonts.jpg <-- this is about the best i can make them look. Note; in firefox, those really bold topics are not supposed to be really bold like that
[01:43] <wabz> sorry - http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ubuntufonts.png
[01:43] <Phantom> when i go into adept, i get an error that i can only use read only mode because another program is using the packging system database.  how should i fix this?
[01:44] <andrej> which package contains the man-pages for the C standard library?  It doesn't seem to be part of any of the gcc/g++ packages.
[01:44] <Apeiron> heya all - i heard its a known issue that the graphical installer from ubuntu is crashing previous installed windows installations - is there any fix or workaround for this?
[01:44] <k0shi> Hi, can anyone help me with linux-wlan-ng drivers?
[01:45] <jujimufu> gtg
[01:45] <jujimufu> byes :d
[01:45] <ych> well, the one i was using is a duron
[01:45] <ych> i have the server version of ubuntu
[01:45] <Seveas> andrej, manpages-dev
[01:45] <ych> strictly command promt
[01:45] <ych> works great for a fileserver
[01:45] <soundray> andrej: try manpages-dev
[01:45] <andrej> Thanks guys
[01:45] <andrej> What an odd split :}
[01:45] <MaxL> ych: Yeah but then if I have windows computers won't they not be able to acsess the files?
[01:46] <wabz> can someone go to font preferences,change it from say, best contrast to subpixel smoothing and let me know if the font spacing changes HEAPS?
[01:46] <andrej> Hmm ...
[01:46] <soundray> andrej: I think it's because in principle the standard library can be used with other compilers (but I'm no expert)
[01:46] <andrej> installed, done man -k sprintf, still no number 3
[01:46] <k0shi> Does anyone know about Prism2 wifi cards and how to install the proper drivers for them?
[01:47] <deltab> andrej: you don't need manpages just to compile something
[01:47] <tyler_d> anyone know where the dpi is in gimp?
[01:47] <wabz> hi guys, a recent update has completely screwed up my fonts - http://www.whatsbeef.net/wabz/ubuntufonts.png <-- this is about the best i can make them look. Note; in firefox, those really bold topics are not supposed to be really bold like that
[01:47] <andrej> I know that - but I need them to look up the syntac for some C functions
[01:47] <andrej> Don't know those by heart
[01:48] <Miek> I'm having some trouble running games, i get the error "Could not initialize SDL Video subsystem: No I/O port permissions." or something similar. Can anyone help?
[01:48] <ych> MaxL, thats what samba is for
[01:48] <ych> emulates windows filesharing
[01:48] <ych> the win comps can access it fine
[01:48] <dibblego> how do you pass environment variables to rc scripts?
[01:48] <wabz> can anyone see what im typing? do i have to rejoin the chan?
[01:48] <ych> !dns
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <ych> i see you wabz
[01:48] <andrej> *sigh*
[01:48] <l1tch> HY
[01:48] <wabz> okay, thanks
[01:49] <andrej> Any other suggestions than manpages-dev ?
[01:49] <Abzzolum> hello
[01:49] <wabz> so can anyone help me with my 'recent-update-screwed-my-fonts' problem?
[01:49] <soundray> andrej: it's definitely in manpages-dev -- works here (check dpkg -L manpages-dev | grep sprintf)
[01:49] <l1tch> how can i install ubuntu without X and live cd and other bullshit
[01:49] <Abzzolum> what ahhpend to your fonts?
[01:49] <mcphail> wabz: blame the maintainer of the compiz repo
[01:49] <wabz> they look completely screwed
[01:50] <wabz> oh okay
[01:50] <soundray> l1tch: please watch your language, and read the help screens on the first prompt of the install CD
[01:50] <wabz> though i dont use compiz
[01:50] <mcphail> wabz: i can help you fix them
[01:50] <andrej> That's weird.
[01:50] <wabz> i guess they screwed up some fonts for me
[01:50] <Melectaus--> is there anywat to get the grub bootloader and burn it as an image to a disc and install it?
[01:50] <wabz> mcphail: go for it ;)
[01:50] <soundray> l1tch: especially the bit that mentions a server install
[01:50] <l1tch> soundray i did, nothing serious or useful
[01:50] <mcphail> wabz: they have updated things like libfreetype6, which is the crux of the problem
[01:50] <soundray> l1tch: server install
[01:50] <Melectaus--> does anyone know if there is anyway to get the grub bootloader and burn it as an image to a disc and install it?
[01:51] <mcphail> wabz: first of all, go into /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the compiz or berrorkid repo
[01:51] <andrej> After the apt-get install manpages-dev, do I need to run something special to get them when I use man -k ?
[01:51] <wabz> mcphail: yup done
[01:51] <andrej> They DO show with the dpkg command
[01:52] <wabz> done an update too
[01:52] <l1tch> it is so hot
[01:52] <soundray> Melectaus--: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM.html
[01:52] <mcphail> wabz: now type "sudo aptitude install libfreetype2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2"
[01:52] <wabz> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libfreetype2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2"
[01:52] <mcphail> wabz: oops
[01:52] <wabz> ;)
[01:52] <mcphail> wabz: now type "sudo aptitude install libfreetype=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2"
[01:52] <k0shi> I installed my senao WiFi card which is Prism2.5, it worked fine, but it got detected as a Hermes card with orinoco drivers, so I blacklisted the orinoco_cs drivers, now it loads as a Prism2 with HostAP drivers, im trying to figure out how to get it to laod with linux-wlan-ng drivers as a prism2.5, anyone have any ideas?
[01:52] <wabz> are you sure it's a good idea to specify an actual version there?
[01:53] <tomasz27> where in Ubuntu can I check my graphics card properties?
[01:53] <soundray> andrej: I've no idea what -k does, but why don't you do man 3 sprintfs
[01:53] <mcphail> wabz: yes. you need to downgrade
[01:53] <geppy> If I boot normally, GDM freezes after about a second.  However, booting in recovery mode and launching GDM from the console doesn't cause a freeze.  I have an Athlon X2, and this behavior is true with both -386 and -686 kernels.
[01:53] <andrej> man -k = apropos
[01:53] <andrej> just less to type
[01:53] <mcphail> wabz: this is the _official_ version
[01:53] <Kyja> why is gnome baker the only dvd cd +_wr utility :( this is sad. it is no longer launchable and I can not find alternitaves :(
[01:54] <Ropechoborra> How can i modify file permission in a fat32 ??
[01:54] <andrej> Ropechoborra : you can't
[01:54] <wabz> yes - but if i install that specific version, when there are updates it will then update properly?
[01:54] <kitche> Ropechoborra chmod
[01:54] <mcphail> wabz: aptitude will complain and ak you if you want to keep the old version. Select "no"
[01:54] <andrej> you can modify the mount-options, though
[01:54] <soundray> !burn >Kyja
[01:54] <Ropechoborra> kitche dont letme
[01:54] <mcphail> wabz: you will be upgraded as the offical repos upgrade
[01:54] <k0shi> I installed my senao WiFi card which is Prism2.5, it worked fine, but it got detected as a Hermes card with orinoco drivers, so I blacklisted the orinoco_cs drivers, now it loads as a Prism2 with HostAP drivers, im trying to figure out how to get it to load with linux-wlan-ng drivers as a prism2.5, anyone have any ideas?
[01:54] <Kyja> oh goodness thank you
[01:54] <andrej> Ropechoborra that's because you can't
[01:54] <wabz> mcphail: im getting Couldn't find package "libfreetype".
[01:54] <andrej> FAT knows nothing of ownerships and permissions
[01:54] <techolous> umm, how do i bind a directory on a ntfs file system, and set the owner?
[01:54] <Ropechoborra> andrej so... if i want to delete a file... i cant??? :S
[01:54] <andrej> look at /etc/stab
[01:55] <mcphail> wabz: aargh
[01:55] <techolous> "mount --bind "/media/hda1/documents and settings/WINUSER/my documents/my music" /mnt/music/USER -O uid=USER" doesn't set the permision
[01:55] <andrej> change the mount options, namely umask
[01:55] <mcphail> wabz: now type "sudo aptitude install libfreetype6=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2"
[01:55] <mcphail> wabz: (it's getting late here...)
[01:55] <andrej> Maybe also uid and gid
[01:55] <soundray> andrej: have you found your manpage now or not?
[01:55] <Ropechoborra> andrej i got /dev/hda2       /media/hda2 vfat umask=0000 0 0 and i want the user 'rope' can modify it
[01:55] <andrej> soundray I did
[01:55] <andrej> But I still want to know why apropos isn't working
[01:55] <RudyValencia> I can't remember the procedure for upgrading Ubuntu breezy to dapper...
[01:56] <neviedais> I know this is not the right place where to ask this, but could someone tell me where to get a CHM decompiler?
[01:56] <Melectaus--> hmmm... is it possible to make the grub iso on windows? as thats what im having to use atm
[01:56] <andrej> Ropechoborra add uid=<ropes numeric ID>
[01:56] <wabz> crazy compiz cowboys
[01:56] <mcphail> wabz: yup
[01:56] <Ropechoborra> andrej how do i know the numeric ID ?
[01:56] <RudyValencia> neviedais: http://www.google.com/search?q=CHM+decompiler
[01:56] <andrej> Type id or look it up in /etc/passwd
[01:57] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[01:57] <soundray> Melectaus--: I think you can download a ready .iso somewhere, but I can't remember where, sry
[01:57] <k0shi> I installed my senao WiFi card which is Prism2.5, it worked fine, but it got detected as a Hermes card with orinoco drivers, so I blacklisted the orinoco_cs drivers, now it loads as a Prism2 with HostAP drivers, im trying to figure out how to get it to laod with linux-wlan-ng drivers as a prism2.5, anyone have any ideas?
[01:57] <mcphail> wabz: how are tou getting on?
[01:57] <wabz> yep, all fonts fixed
[01:57] <wabz> thanks heaps
[01:57] <Ropechoborra> Ok, now it should be like this?? : /dev/hda2       /media/hda2 vfat umask=0000 uid=1000 0 0  ??
[01:57] <NickGarvey> k0shi: have you read the wiki page on wireless?
[01:57] <MaxL> How do I update my repositories?
[01:58] <l1tch> how can i choose text install i dont find this in the boot menu
[01:58] <l1tch> http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_Install_Ubuntu#Choose_Installation_Method
[01:58] <l1tch> it is not the same
[01:58] <Ropechoborra> MaxL sudo apt-get update
[01:58] <k0shi> NickGarvey: I have read allll over the place
[01:58] <Melectaus--> thats ok soundray, cheers
[01:58] <soundray> k0shi: repeating won't help at this frequency.  Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:59] <wabz> indeed. i'll give them 6 months maybe. last time i tried half the keys on my keyboard were not mapped properly, and that problem was around since year dot
[01:59] <l1tch> Text mode install mode is available for servers without great graphics or if you have a problem in graphic mode, or have less than 192MB memory. << how?
[01:59] <Ropechoborra> andrej you mean like this? umask,uid=0000,1000
[01:59] <k0shi> This may not be the best place to discuss it, but im trying to get AIREPLAY working correctly
[01:59] <wabz> im yet to find a use for transparency that isnt 'annoy the hell out of me' too
[01:59] <andrej> umask=0000,uid=1000 ... close enough, though ;}
[02:00] <mcphail> wabz: i like my windows semi-transparent when being dragged
[02:00] <Ropechoborra> lol ty
[02:00] <Ropechoborra> andrej the only whay to see changes is rebooting ?
[02:00] <shiv> I need some help with converting old sql data files to new one
[02:00] <shiv> I found this how to here http://www.sqlite.org/version3.html
[02:00] <shiv> but am not able to follow exactly. I am a noob please help
[02:00] <andrej> how do I make ubunut update the apropos database with "normal" ubuntu means?
[02:00] <k0shi> Im pretty much trying to figure out how you configure a PCMCIA device with specific driver as apposed to the ones Unbuntu supplys for it
[02:00] <andrej> nope - umount/mount will do
[02:01] <RudyValencia> Is gksudo "update-manager -d" the proper way to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[02:01] <jrib> RudyValencia: no, that gives you the latest development version
[02:01] <jrib> !upgrade
[02:01] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:02] <RudyValencia> Ah, that would be breezy -> edgy...
[02:02] <andrej> The upgrade completely screwed my machine up - had to reinstall from scratch :/
[02:02] <nopcode> hey
[02:02] <nopcode> about upgrading
[02:02] <nopcode> it doesnt work here
[02:03] <nopcode> upgrading to breezy works, after upgrading to dapper the machine doesnt boot anymore...
[02:03] <andrej> heh
[02:03] <nopcode> any ideas?
[02:03] <andrej> for me ONLY networking and X were fubared
[02:04] <nopcode> well it couldve been networking
[02:04] <RudyValencia> I should probably get the ISO and put it onto a CD
[02:04] <nopcode> for all i know
[02:04] <nopcode> all i know the machine didnt ping or react to ssh anymore
[02:04] <nopcode> i'm thinking about putting debian on it
[02:04] <NickGarvey> nopcode: no ping = no internet
[02:05] <nopcode> it doesnt have that stupid concept of "releases"
[02:05] <NickGarvey> s/internet/networking/
[02:05] <`m0> hi, is it possible for the LED lights on the keyboard to work accordingly?
[02:05] <soundray> nopcode: of course Debian has releases
[02:05] <`m0> My keyboard is a Compaq Laptop
[02:05] <andrej> How do I update the apropos database in ubuntu?
[02:06] <nopcode> soundray: well but as a user i don't see anything about that
[02:06] <nopcode> anyways
[02:06] <nopcode> any idea why dapper wouldn't work?
[02:07] <andrej> there's no friggin makewhatis :/
[02:07] <soundray> nopcode: what? You don't see when potato, sarge etc. get released?
[02:07] <RudyValencia> Is dapper available by bittorrent?
[02:07] <nopcode> soundray: i've used debian for years without ever knowing what potato, sarge etc even _is_
[02:07] <nopcode> soundray: just dist-upgrade and i was on the cutting edge
[02:07] <looktj> nopcode: there is a ubuntu christian edition
[02:08] <nopcode> looktj: what? ;)
[02:08] <unkn0wn2u> nopcode, do you know what your talking about
[02:08] <nopcode> unkn0wn2u: i just hate having to care about releases
[02:08] <excitatory> if one wanted to use the fglrx driver..is it best to use the one in the ubuntu repos, or the ati.com driver?  (the wiki only points out the hibernation feature of the ati.com driver..but are there more reasons to use this driver?)
[02:08] <nopcode> i just want cutting edge each time i do a dist-upgrade
[02:08] <haasteem> erUSUL: i am still working on the problem i had earlier on...
[02:09] <soundray> nopcode: then do update-manager -d
[02:09] <phobik> I have a problem with azerus and bittorrent and just a few other programs, the fonts in them show up as blocks, like unreadable, anyone know how I can fix that?
[02:09] <unkn0wn2u> nopcode, debian is never cutting edge
[02:09] <ben__> hey can someone help me with something in ubuntu?
[02:09] <nopcode> soundray: hm? does that work with any base version?
[02:09] <soundray> nopcode, yes
[02:09] <nopcode> soundray: i've just requested a reinstall of my server
[02:09] <nopcode> it'll be 5.06 again
[02:09] <soundray> nopcode: well, you have to have update-manager installed
[02:09] <ben__> hey, can someone help me with something in ubuntu?
[02:10] <soundray> !ask
[02:10] <excitatory> ben__: just ask, please don't ask to ask.
[02:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:10] <ogionnj> I just upgraded to dapper and now X doesn't work.  Says "No Input driver matching `mouse'".  Can someone give me some help diagnosing and fixing?
[02:10] <nopcode> soundray: that brings me up-to-date with.. unstable?
[02:10] <auxi> excitatory, haha
[02:10] <nopcode> soundray: will that change the installed kernel image?
[02:10] <sergiol> i did reboot and this gs command didnt annoyed me any more
[02:10] <sergiol> thanks
[02:10] <soundray> nopcode: yes
[02:10] <kitche> ogionngj: you probably have to install the mouse driver
[02:10] <tyler_d> editting flash, preferably a plugin for nvu???
[02:10] <phobik> also anyone have a problem with beep media player distored so you cant see the default skin or controls/
[02:11] <nopcode> soundray: hmm.. but why can't i use dist-upgrade for that?
[02:11] <ogionnj> why wasn't it installed?
[02:11] <nopcode> why does it have to be an extra program?
[02:11] <ogionnj> Which package?
[02:11] <ben__> well i installed wine and got steam working great and everything on my computer then i reinstalled ubuntu and tried to do the same thing and steam worked except now when i start counter-strike it crashes my x (i think im saying that right) and goes to the command line
[02:11] <ogionnj> It's just a ps2 mouse.  Used to work under breezy
[02:11] <haasteem> sethk: are you there?
[02:11] <excitatory> tyler_d: it doesn't quite work that way..  flash is a proprietary technology that is only available on mac and windows platforms.. and the application required to make and edit flash is quite expensive.
[02:12] <tyler_d> excitatory: I know, I own the macromedia developement pack for windows...
[02:12] <tyler_d> excitatory: was hoping there may be a dirty way to do it.... have flash buttons installed in my page, would like to update the links
[02:13] <jman8888> How can i upgrade From 5.10 - 6.06 ?
[02:13] <excitatory> tyler_d: it might be possible to run it via wine or codeweavers.. but no nvu plugin.
[02:13] <Ych> !nfs
[02:13] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:13] <soundray> !upgrade >jman8888
[02:13] <nopcode> tyler_d: if its just strings you can probably do it the dirty way
[02:13] <tyler_d> excitatory: I will give it a shot with wine for starters... ty
[02:13] <excitatory> tyler_d: or you could run windows in virtualisation, and avoid a dual boot.. but probably, i would just fix it from windows.
[02:14] <tyler_d> nopcode: nope, its actually programmed
[02:14] <nopcode> programmed?
[02:14] <nopcode> as in?
[02:14] <jman8888> soundray, Thanks. I couldnt find it. Searched the wrong domain...
[02:15] <excitatory> ben__: my guess is that you didn't install your 3d accelerated video drivers when you reinstalled ubuntu.
[02:15] <nopcode> tyler_d: what do you mean?
[02:15] <excitatory> !upgrade
[02:15] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:16] <tyler_d> nopcode: teh latest macromedia dreamweaver allows you add flash from within
[02:16] <excitatory> jman8888: ^^
[02:16] <nopcode> tyler_d: so?
[02:16] <tyler_d> nopcode: making the code look wonderfully messed up
[02:16] <nopcode> you shouldnt be using flash
[02:17] <phargle> flesh
[02:17] <nopcode> it makes pages unviewable for many
[02:18] <acad> why doesn't fdisk -l show me my internal hard drive? it shows me a connected externel hard drive.
[02:18] <dibblego> lots of myths floating about today
[02:18] <rbond> Question: Has anyone ever heard of ALSA using a lot of CPU resources. I have attempted to do a Google and Ubuntu Forums search and have not yielded any results. From troubleshooting it looks like it is ALSA as I have had video synchronization problems and high CPU usage problems until I attempted an OSS plugin
[02:18] <rbond> Question: Has anyone ever heard of ALSA using a lot of CPU resources. I have attempted to do a Google and Ubuntu Forums search and have not yielded any results. From troubleshooting it looks like it is ALSA as I have had video synchronization problems and high CPU usage problems until I attempted an OSS plugin
[02:18] <excitatory> rbond: we see it..
[02:18] <excitatory> dibblego: what do you mean?
[02:18] <rbond> oh sorry it looks like it cut off
[02:18] <rbond> when I posted the first time
[02:19] <HeathenDan> is it easy to uninstall xfce when i decide to go back to gnome in ubuntu?
[02:19] <phargle> its ok, it takes 4-5 tries usually
[02:19] <jrib> HeathenDan: if you use aptitude to install xubuntu-desktop, it is
[02:19] <HeathenDan> i see
[02:20] <jessica_> hey
[02:20] <jessica_> how do i get 32 bit color out of the nvidia driver?
[02:20] <krizzer> anyone kno of a good tutorial on installing xgl and compiz
[02:20] <HeathenDan> it uninstalls unneeded dependencies too?
[02:20] <tom12519> Does anybody know how I can tunnel my current X session over VNC?
[02:20] <jrib> HeathenDan: yep
[02:20] <excitatory> HeathenDan: yes, always use aptitude.. it has package tracking.. same commands at apt-get too.. quite easy and handy.
[02:21] <excitatory> HeathenDan: also, installing that does not remove gnome.. you can choose which environment when you log in..
[02:21] <HeathenDan> darn, i've always used synaptic/apt-get
[02:21] <jessica_> anyone?
[02:21] <gmitchel> guys, im having trouble keeping my wireless network automatically connected, any ideas?
[02:21] <kitche> gmitchel: what chipset?
[02:21] <excitatory> HeathenDan: well, they work, quite well actually..you're not doing anything wrong by using those.. but there are certain advantages of aptitude.
[02:21] <BlueEagle> jessica_: add an option for that in the screen section of your xorg.conf and set defaultdepth to 32.
[02:21] <gmitchel> it's a broadcom 4308
[02:22] <gmitchel> drivers work great
[02:22] <jessica_> BlueEagle, it then says it's not supported.
[02:22] <gmitchel> i just have to disable then enable everytime to get it to reconnect to the network
[02:22] <tyler_d> jessica: install the binary drivers
[02:22] <kitche> gmitchel: there is a thing with broadcom 43xx it drops connections every once in a while
[02:22] <jrib> jessica_: 24bit is equivalent to the 32bit in windows.  I don't remember why, but I remember reading this somewhere.  Some research may help
[02:22] <jessica_> tyler_d, which package?
[02:22] <kitche> I haven't had trouble with the driver in the linux kernel yet though
[02:23] <gmitchel> i've had the same wireless card work on a diff machine in kubuntu and never drop
[02:23] <tyler_d> jessica: which radeon do you have?
[02:23] <BlueEagle> jessica_: Ahh. Well then perhaps it's not supported then. :)
[02:23] <ben__> excitatory, no i did install my video drivers
[02:23] <jessica_> tyler_d, I have a NVIDIA card.
[02:23] <HeathenDan> they should get a gui frontend for aptitude... otherwise synaptic will always tempt me
[02:23] <tyler_d> jessica: which one though?
[02:24] <jessica_> tyler_d, it's a geforce 4 mx series
[02:24] <gmitchel> plus it's not an easy reconnect... i usually have to disable eth1, then reenable it
[02:24] <ben__> excitatory, i have a 945gm intergrated intel card and reinstalled 915resolution and changed the driver on my xorg.conf to i810, just as i did with the last install
[02:24] <natural20> When I start Ubuntu, server X fails to load, presumably because of NVIDIA drivers.  I get this error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLCore.so    UserModule: "GLCore"     Failed to load module "GLCore" (loader failed, 7)
[02:25] <kitche> ben__: well soon you can use the i915 drivers
[02:25] <excitatory> ben__: yikes.. i hope you don't expect great gfx from that integrated..
[02:25] <ben__> excitatory, i know i dont
[02:25] <ben__> excitatory, but it can run counter-strike 1.6
[02:25] <tyler_d> Jessica: this may be of some help, understand that I am still new, and just got my machine up and running... radeon 9600 here... http://www.tjansen.de/xfree-features/
[02:25] <excitatory> well..honestly.. i'm not sure.  that was just a quick guess. this isn't my are of expertise.
[02:25] <BlueEagle> jessica_: 24 bit is 1.7 million colours. I think you'll need an extremely good monitor to render any finer resolution anyways. (ie. you would in most cases never see the difference between 1.6M colors and 429M colors.
[02:25] <Phantom> i'm trying to install an hp deskjet 930c over samba.  however, after selecting the printer make and model, i get an error that the driver cannot be found.  any idea of where/how to install it, or if that isn't the problem, how to get it to work?
[02:26] <jessica_> BlueEagle, I have done this before
[02:26] <acad> i got this error, any suggestions? ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda2
[02:26] <acad> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[02:26] <jessica_> SecondLife won't run under 24 bit.
[02:26] <aaronf0> does ubuntu have a text mode install?
[02:26] <BlueEagle> jessica_: Were you able to see the difference?
[02:26] <fredyqa1> Hello?
[02:26] <nopcode> ehrm
[02:26] <nopcode> 32 bit is just padded 24 bit...
[02:26] <jessica_> BlueEagle, does it matter? You're not listening to me
[02:26] <jessica_> I need 32 bit to get SL to run
[02:26] <judicata> Anyone have any experience with iTunes in Crossover? It have it working on my SuSe laptop, but not on Ubuntu.  It installs and opens just fine, and pulls up the music store, but I can't sign in to my account.
[02:27] <BlueEagle> jessica_: Does it matter? You're not going to notice any difference anyways. :)
[02:27] <fredyqa1> jessica_
[02:27] <ben__> excitatory, any ideas?
[02:27] <jessica_> BlueEagle, YES IT MATTERS-- the software _WILL NOT RUN_ in 24 bit mode
[02:27] <StriderZ> what is ubuntu's default filemanager?
[02:27] <ben__> excitatory, or any log file i could look for an error?
[02:27] <phargle> jessica_: no it will
[02:27] <HeathenDan> nautilus
[02:27] <jrib> StriderZ: nautilus
[02:28] <BlueEagle> jessica_: Pardon me for saying so but that seems to be an issue with the software. (which package is the unwilling one btw?)
[02:28] <ben__> help
[02:28] <Bassetts> my sound does not work in totem-xine
[02:28] <StriderZ> jrib: I'm sorry, I meant window-manager
[02:28] <jessica_> oh for shit's sake
[02:28] <jessica_> I'll just pay for commercial support
[02:28] <mopflite> I was quite surprised at how easy it is to burn an .iso using nautilus
[02:28] <jessica_> at least then I'll be listened to
[02:28] <jrib> StriderZ: metacity for gnome
[02:28] <kitche> jessica__: your using the nvidia driver? or the open source
[02:28] <ben__> can anyone help me with this?: i installed wine and got steam working great and everything on my computer then i reinstalled ubuntu and tried to do the same thing and steam worked except now when i start counter-strike it crashes my x (i think im saying that right) and goes to the command line
[02:28] <phargle> jessica_: did you say something?
[02:28] <kitche> since the open source drivers do not support 24bit jessica__
[02:29] <kitche> opps 32bit
[02:29] <StriderZ> jrib: thanks
[02:29] <jessica_> i'm not using the bloody opensource drivers.
[02:29] <BlueEagle> ben__: Do you get anything useful in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:29] <jessica_> I found the package for 'nvidia'
[02:29] <jessica_> nvidia != nv
[02:29] <fredyqa1> Hello? can anyone help me?
[02:29] <phargle> no way
[02:29] <ben__> BlueEagle, i havent checked that becuz i wasnt sure were the logfile was but ill check it now
[02:29] <DBO> jessica_, if you want to join in #ubuntu-xgl we have LOTS of familiarity with driver issues there
[02:29] <StriderZ> jessica_: I hade a helluva time getting my nvidia card to work...I think I ended up downloading the actual nvidia linux drivers from their site
[02:29] <jrib> fredyqa1: just ask your question, and then we can try
[02:30] <mopflite> aaronf0: regarding text install, if you download the alternate cd for your chosen platform, that has a textual installer
[02:30] <natural20> When I start Ubuntu, server X fails to load.  I get this error: /usr/lib/xorg/moduels/extensions/libGLCore.so  UnloadModule: "GLCore"   Failed to load module "GLCore" (loader failed, 7)
[02:31] <nopcode> DBO: could you join #foobar? i have a question
[02:31] <Bassetts> can someone help me, sound does not work in totem-xine
[02:31] <DBO> nopcode, im there
[02:31] <kitche> boy I bet jessica_ didn't even try the nvidia drivers from their site
[02:31] <rbond> Question: Has anyone ever heard of ALSA using a lot of CPU resources. I have attempted to do a Google and Ubuntu Forums search and have not yielded any results. From troubleshooting it looks like it is ALSA as I have had video synchronization problems and high CPU usage problems until I attempted an OSS plugin
[02:32] <natural20> kitche: i think nvidia drivers is what i need too, but i don't know how to get at them:  server X won't load
[02:32] <nopcode> DBO: hm i dont see you
[02:32] <Melectaus--> does anyone know where i can get a grub.iso ?
[02:32] <kitche> natural20: probably you have to get the linkt hen wget it
[02:33] <PingunZ> hey, whats the package name of iwlib ?
[02:33] <kitche> I don't trust packages for drivers unless it's liek Xorg open source
[02:33] <aaronf0> so does or does not ubuntu have a text installer?
[02:33] <PingunZ> sure, alternate install cd
[02:33] <aaronf0> the hell if im downloading another one
[02:34] <natural20> kitche: can you explain wget?
[02:34] <PingunZ> its like the debian install aaronf0
[02:34] <aaronf0> cant you just pass it a --install text option?
[02:34] <aaronf0> PingunZ: i dont use deb
[02:34] <kitche> natural20: wget is a download tool
[02:34] <ajax4> I need some help guys. A file on my system called libvte.so.4 got hosed. How can I get it back?
[02:34] <aaronf0> PingunZ: i use gentoo
[02:34] <PingunZ> cool
[02:34] <ben__> BlueEagle, in the xorg logfile the last line says "ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?" im not sure what that means tho
[02:34] <aaronf0> PingunZ: anyway, can you recomend a distro for a laptop too old to run ubuntu?
[02:34] <CocaCola77> Is ubuntu team thinking of implenting click and mount tools? Like Beos had 10 years ago?
[02:34] <PingunZ> aaronf0, the install of ubuntu is 100 times easier
[02:35] <aaronf0> PingunZ: not if you cant reach the install point
[02:35] <natural20> kitche: so the command line for using it would be...
[02:35] <jrib> ajax4: that's a result of using unsupported compiz repos.    Is that normal?
[02:38] <baconbacon> fredyqa1: do you have a toshiba laptop
 have you tried using the liveCD?
[02:38] <aaronf0> rbond: thats too big
[02:38] <CocaCola77> baconbacon, I can, but because I just feel like you want me to pass some iq test, and I just want to use the damn computer.
[02:39] <fsdfdsfsd> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[02:39] <Ych> i'm not sure how, but maybe something could be done with that
[02:39] <ajax4> fredyqa1: Its normal if you have an older AT style motherboard (not ATX)
[02:39] <Ych> that damn peer going around resetting connections again!!
[02:39] <baconbacon> CocaCola77: i agree it could be easier, but anyway, offtopic
[02:39] <Bassetts> thats that dcc?
[02:39] <Melectaus--> Yvh: i tried but i have  5.04, the instructions that are avaiable dont work with it
[02:39] <Bassetts> *whats
[02:39] <CocaCola77> baconbacon, to rephrase, I want to use the damn computer, not pass geek test.
[02:39] <Ych> did you install win after linux?
[02:40] <Melectaus--> yes ych
[02:40] <Ych> i heard that that wouldnt work properly, so i just reformatted
[02:40] <Ych> only today that was in fact
[02:40] <Melectaus--> i have too much stuff on my hdd
[02:40] <Ych> almost got into the same fubar as you
[02:40] <Shoo-Shu> so. what do i use to dl music with???? since im guessing limewire isnt compatible with ubuntu
[02:40] <Melectaus--> cant risk loosing it
[02:40] <Ych> well
[02:40] <Bassetts> what was that DCC thing again?
[02:40] <nopcode> Shoo-Shu: rtorrent
[02:40] <nso> How do you open a rar file in ubuntu?
[02:40] <Shoo-Shu> o ok
[02:40] <Ych> if neccessary
[02:40] <dibblego> nso, apt-get install rar
[02:40] <Ych> do you have something to backup the files to?
[02:40] <Melectaus--> yea?
[02:40] <dibblego> nso, apt-get install unrar even
[02:41] <Ych> like a remote machine?
[02:41] <kitche> dibblego: rar only rars files
[02:41] <Melectaus--> i have a 300gig external hdd
[02:41] <ajax4> dibblego: don't forget sudo first
[02:41] <Ych> or another hdd?
[02:41] <Ych> ok
[02:41] <Ych> because
[02:41] <baconbacon> Shoo-Shu: install java, use frostwire
[02:41] <Ych> you can access your linux partition from windows apparently
[02:41] <Shoo-Shu> o ok
[02:41] <Melectaus--> i cant boot in windows either
[02:42] <Ych> oooohhh
[02:42] <Melectaus--> atm my laptop doesnt have any bootloader
[02:42] <Ych> i thought you said you were in windows?
[02:42] <Melectaus--> i tried to install grub from a dodgey disc
[02:42] <Melectaus--> i am
[02:42] <Ych> but on a dif machine
[02:42] <Melectaus--> diffo machine though
[02:42] <Ych> ok
[02:42] <Ych> well
[02:42] <judicata> Anyone have any experience with iTunes in Crossover? It have it working on my SuSe laptop, but not on Ubuntu.  It installs and opens just fine, and pulls up the music store, but I can't sign in to my account.
[02:42] <Ych> thats a bit of a snafu
[02:42] <Hexidigital> how do i disable the nautilus desktop integration?
[02:42] <Melectaus--> is there any bootloader at all i can burn to disc or ought?
[02:43] <jrib> Hexidigital: it's an option in gconf-editor for nautilus
[02:43] <Hexidigital> jrib: thanks
[02:43] <Melectaus--> even the windows bootloader, so i can get all the stuff off of my ubuntu partition and save it to treformat
[02:43] <Ych> ummm
[02:43] <Ych> can you reinstall windows?
[02:43] <Melectaus--> well ill loose all the shiz i have there
[02:43] <Ych> or is there loadsa stuff on there also
[02:43] <jrib> Melectaus--: you can access your drives through the live cd
[02:43] <Melectaus--> yups
[02:43] <Ych> ok
[02:43] <Ych> you could use the livecd
[02:44] <Shoo-Shu> so does frostwire have alot of music like limewire?
[02:44] <Shoo-Shu> or is it shit?
[02:44] <Ych> damn jrib
[02:44] <Ych> beat me
[02:44] <jrib> Shoo-Shu: they use the same network
[02:44] <Melectaus--> jrib, i have 5.04, i cant see the local hdd thru the live cd
[02:44] <Shoo-Shu> ohhhhhhhhh
[02:44] <Ych> hmmm
[02:44] <Shoo-Shu> mad
[02:44] <Ych> ok i gotta reboot
[02:44] <Ych> brbrbrb
[02:44] <jrib> Melectaus--: can you go to system > administration > disks, and mount them?
[02:44] <TheGame> y is this channel not regged
[02:44] <judicata> Mel: have a copy of Knoppix lying around?
[02:45] <baconbacon> cant he just grub-install from the liveCD?
[02:45] <Melectaus--> ill try
[02:45] <Melectaus--> hold on
[02:45] <jrib> baconbacon: should be able to
[02:45] <baconbacon> maybe you need to apt-get grub first
[02:45] <jrib> that's your best option Melectaus-- , but you said the wiki instructions didn't work?
[02:46] <BlueEagle> jessica: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep 32
[02:46] <BlueEagle> jessica: You will see something like "(==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32"
[02:46] <BlueEagle> bahh she left.
[02:46] <Melectaus--> jrib its like they are for a newer version
[02:46] <kitche> BlueEagle she left a long time ago
[02:47] <BlueEagle> kitche: That's what I get for researching peoples problems. They just don't have the patience. :)
[02:47] <ajax4> Anyone know a way to use apt to reinstall an app and reinstall all its dependencies?
[02:47] <Zer0ne> when you boot up the ubuntu cd, is there a way to make it boot from an already installed ubuntu system?
[02:47] <jrib> Melectaus--: I am pretty sure that they will work with the older disk as well
[02:49] <Melectaus--> i followed them to a t jrib. i didnt get anywhere
[02:50] <jrib> Melectaus--: were there any errors, or did everything just seem to work ok but without any results?
[02:51] <tyler_d> anyone here run mechwarrior?
[02:51] <Ych> !tubgirl
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tubgirl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <Ych> oooooop
[02:51] <Ych> s
[02:51] <Ych> !nfs
[02:51] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:51] <Ych> gosh, im too lazy to type out a tla
[02:51] <natural20> when trying to install the Nvidia linux drivers, i get this error: Unable to find the system utility "ld"; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed, then please check that 'ld' is in your PATH.    can someone interpret this for me, and instruct me on how to find out what it asks?
[02:51] <stopher> Hello!
[02:52] <timalot> ld is a linker
[02:52] <kitche> natural20: your missing a very important linux tool
[02:52] <a-priori> hey
[02:53] <natural20> kitche: what should i do?
[02:53] <kitche> naturla20: you might have to install the binutils package
[02:53] <timalot> !binutils
[02:53] <ubotu> binutils: The GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 1373 kB, installed size 6848 kB
[02:53] <erUSUL> natural20: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:53] <BlueEagle> I've got some lag in the sound when playing video files. Is there anywhere I can adjust it?
[02:53] <BlueEagle> I'm using vlc media player.
[02:54] <ChaosAFS> i could use some help
[02:54] <Melectaus--> jrib, it didnt recognise the commands
[02:54] <BlueEagle> But I suspect it's a problem with ESD.
[02:54] <stopher> I just got a 4 processor (P3 all around xeon) and it has 4 SCSI HD's (6 available slots) and 1 OS Controller HD that is IDE.  Has CDRW etc etc etc.  It has Windows 2000 Server pre-loaded but I keep getting a STOP! error on it.  I went to install Ubuntu Server Text Install and it keeps freezing when the system goes to Partition Manager.  I think the server install is for one processor, but was told I could install the controller afte
[02:54] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: We really could use some more info about your problem if we're going to be able to give any help.
[02:55] <jrib> Melectaus--: which commands in particular?  By the way if someone else knows a bit about grub, Melectaus-- would really benefit from your help because I don't know much about it :)
[02:55] <ChaosAFS> i load up linux 6.06 to install it and it loads stuff for like 2 mins and then comes up with a DOS type thing.
[02:55] <timalot> hahha
[02:55] <ChaosAFS> what do i type in this?
[02:56] <BlueEagle> stopher: Your text was cut after ", but was told I could install the controller afte"
[02:56] <Overand> ChaosAFS: which CD did you download?  'alternate' or the 'Live CD'
[02:56] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: Does it come up with a blue screen saying that "X cannot load"?
[02:56] <ChaosAFS> live i believe
[02:56] <stopher> BlueEagle: ... but was told I could install the controller afterward.  Any Ideas on this?
[02:56] <Melectaus--> the ones that you use at the start of the live cd one
[02:56] <Zer0ne> i've got windows on my master, ubuntu on my slave.  is there a way to make the ubuntu cd boot up the installed system, so i could leave my mbr unchanged?
[02:56] <kitche> Zer0ne: you got a floppy drive?
[02:56] <viator> is there any office type apps that have a resume wizerd?
[02:56] <Zer0ne> ie:  put in the cd when i want to boot ubuntu
[02:56] <timalot> zerone why?
[02:57] <Zer0ne> sure dont
[02:57] <Warbo> Zer0ne: Not that I know of, but I know how to make a custom boot CD
[02:57] <stopher> viator: have you tried OpenOffice?
[02:57] <viator> even commercial
[02:57] <Melectaus--> jrib. the hdd comes up in the device manager. but how do i mount it?
[02:57] <viator> i have openoffice latest
[02:57] <stopher> oh...
[02:57] <Warbo> Zer0ne: Or even a floppy, which would probably be best
[02:57] <viator> and it doesnt have one
[02:57] <kitche> I used to know a way to daisychain linux to the windows boot loader
[02:57] <viator> ugh
[02:57] <gary[ubuntu] > zer0ne: I've done that with the ubuntu live dvd
[02:57] <kitche> so windows would eb the main mbr
[02:57] <viator> my wife wants it
[02:57] <Zer0ne> how?
[02:57] <a-priori> kitche: chainloader +1
[02:57] <a-priori> in grub
[02:57] <viator> word has the damn thing
[02:58] <verbose> kitche: you edit c:\boot.ini
[02:58] <stopher> copy/paste it lol
[02:58] <gary[ubuntu] > zer0ne: when the live dvd menu comes up you have an option to select which partition to boot off of
[02:58] <kitche> verbose: yep your right
[02:58] <ChaosAFS> so what do i type in the DOS thing
[02:58] <stopher> BlueEagle: Any ideas?
[02:58] <viator> i can download templates etc
[02:58] <kitche> a-priori: I didn't use grub back then it was lilo and lilo was a pain sometimes
[02:58] <Zer0ne> gary:  is that dvd-specific?
[02:58] <timalot> u can have grub on mbr and run windows.... why not have grub
[02:58] <gary[ubuntu] > zer0ne I'll brb. checking now
[02:58] <stopher> download them then... should work
[02:58] <viator> hell i even used wget to grab all the templates from ms servers
[02:58] <Zer0ne> because my boss would flip out ;/
[02:58] <a-priori> kitche: ah, okay
[02:58] <a-priori> never used lilo myself
[02:59] <Warbo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[02:59] <Zer0ne> because the "boot screen" doesnt look right
[02:59] <gary[ubuntu] > rebooting now to see what the option was
[02:59] <gary[ubuntu] > brb zer0ne
[02:59] <viator> she wants the damn wizard type thing
[02:59] <timalot> Zer0ne: make a dos boot disk and use loadlin
[02:59] <RudyValencia> hmm, ubuntu isn't too bad, once you change a couple little settings :)
[02:59] <BlueEagle> stopher: Nope. It would help to know which chipset your controller is using. Try running lspci (if you're in linux).
[02:59] <stopher> viator: Not sure if OpenOffice.org can help you with that one....
[02:59] <Warbo> timalot: What's wrong with GRUB?
[02:59] <ChaosAFS> so far ubuntu sucks
[02:59] <markrian> viator, you could try installing Word in wine
[02:59] <dan2> hi there
[02:59] <ChaosAFS> if this is all it is, it sucks
[02:59] <stopher> BlueEagle: I can't even get to the windows command prompts, so no, i can't do that either.
[02:59] <timalot> Warbo: loadlin is easier
[03:00] <viator> yeah i could
[03:00] <virogenesis> great ChaosAFS
[03:00] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: "All it is"? About 16000 software packages?
[03:00] <markrian> ChaosAFS, what more would you like?
[03:00] <viator> i threw away those pirated disks
[03:00] <viator> a while ago
[03:00] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: First things first. How did you install Ubuntu? Using the LiveCD or the alternate install CD?
[03:00] <stopher> BlueEagle: should BIOS boot-up display that?
[03:00] <ChaosAFS> i would like a GUI is what i would like
[03:00] <viator> lol
[03:00] <ChaosAFS> i hate DOS
[03:00] <dan2> I adjusted the display configuration before and then I decided to distupgrade, now I can't get the resolution to 1280x1024 even though it is the only resolution in xorg.conf
[03:00] <virogenesis> its not dos
[03:00] <stopher> i know its Phoenix BIOS
[03:00] <markrian> ChaosAFS, er, Ubuntu has a GUI. Called GNOME.
[03:00] <virogenesis> damn....
[03:00] <Warbo> I love DOS! Without it my computers wouldn't work
[03:00] <ChaosAFS> BlueEagle: i believe i downloaded the live CD and burned it to a CD
[03:00] <Warbo> I have no experience of MSDOS though
[03:01] <Dodzey> ChaosAFS, you sure it wasnt the server cd?
[03:01] <ChaosAFS> pretty sure
[03:01] <BlueEagle> stopher: I really do not know or think so.
[03:01] <ChaosAFS> the iso is named something like this
[03:01] <ChaosAFS> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386
[03:01] <BlueEagle> stopher: Have you got the name of the motherboard?
[03:01] <virogenesis> did you load up the cd?
[03:01] <viator> i smell a troll
[03:01] <dan2> how do I adjust the resolution with the latest release
[03:01] <viator> lol
[03:01] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: and you're not able to get it to show you a graphical interface?
[03:01] <dan2> I used dpkg-reconfigure, no luck even though I selected the only resolution I wanted
[03:01] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: Which graphics card/chipset have you got?
[03:01] <Dodzey> viator, my senses are tingly
[03:02] <Dodzey> vaitor, ^_^
[03:02] <RudyValencia> *"Computer", "<user>'s desktop". and "Trash" icons are missing, they can easily be restored :)
[03:02] <viator> system>prefrences>
[03:02] <viator> screenresolution
[03:02] <viator> @dan2
[03:02] <ChaosAFS> BlueEagle: radeon 9250 PCI card
[03:02] <dravas> Hah
[03:02] <stopher> BlueEagle: lemme check and ill get back to you asap
[03:02] <dravas> o.O
[03:03] <rockzman> Can anyone help me? i did format my windows partition and i did reinstall windows, what do i must do to load grub at boot
[03:03] <BlueEagle> stopher: :)
[03:03] <stopher> BlueEagle: i have it in the room next door
[03:03] <jrib> !grub > rockzman
[03:03] <Warbo> !grub > rockzman
[03:03] <Warbo> oops
[03:03] <timalot> rockzman: u need to use a cd to boot
[03:03] <jrib> Melectaus--: select the partition, and press enable, then it shoudl show up in /media
[03:03] <Han> With synaptic I have set up a proxy, but the proxy is gone and now I can't find how I set up the proxy. grepping in /etc/ for 8118 (the proxy port) finds nothing! Where is it?
[03:04] <rockzman> Warbo can i do that without a cd?
[03:04] <Warbo> Who wanted to boot from CD/floppy to preserve their MBR?
[03:04] <RudyValencia> Ubuntu has earned an "A" in my Linux distros testing, and Fedora falls way short.
[03:04] <RudyValencia> rock on!
[03:04] <ChaosAFS> so whats with the DOS?
[03:04] <kitche> Warbo: Zer0
[03:04] <Warbo> rockzman: I think it is possible from within Windows, but it is dodgy and I don'y know how to do it
[03:04] <dravas> Hey Gary13579 and ChaosAFS
[03:04] <kitche> that's the only part of his name I remember
[03:04] <Warbo> Zer0ne: You sorted yet?
[03:04] <Han> In the meanwhile, apt-get doesn't use that proxy. :-S
[03:04] <jrib> Melectaus--: I'm gonna be afk for a bit now, but 'gksudo nautilus' will give you a fiile manager with full permissions which you may need.  Be careful since you can also mess things up if you delete files and such
[03:04] <Gary13579> ewww dravas
[03:04] <viator> there is no DOS
[03:04] <Zer0ne> no :/
[03:05] <viator> its the CLI
[03:05] <timalot> rockzman: then it gets a bit tricky u need to mount your linux partition , and run grub-install somehow... my favorite method is to chroot to the mount point and run grub-install
[03:05] <ChaosAFS> i typed startx and all i got was "no screens found"
[03:05] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: There seems to be an issue with that graphics card. Have you tried choosing VGA safe mode in the boot menu?
[03:05] <TheGame> when is edgy going to be released
[03:05] <gary[ubuntu] > zer0ne: looks like it only gives me the option to boot from the first hard drive
[03:05] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: I think it should be the F4 key to choose it.
[03:05] <viator> 610
[03:05] <jordanau> TheGame, about 5 months
[03:05] <Zer0ne> i used to do something with lilo like root=/dev/hdb2 or whatever
[03:05] <Zer0ne> to do it
[03:05] <Zer0ne> yeah
[03:05] <TheGame> so its not going to be as big as a jump as breezy to dapper was?
[03:05] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: Hopefully that will give you the x screen.
[03:06] <jordanau> TheGame, a new release every six months
[03:06] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: DOS=Disk Operating System. Without one then Ubuntu wouldn't be able to do anything. Ubuntu has many different shells and graphical environments which can control the disk operating system, which in Ubuntu's case is called Linux
[03:06] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: However that screen will be very low resolution (800x600 or something) and some windows in the installer are too big for that.
[03:06] <natural20> when using the NVIDIA drivers package installer, i get the following error: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.  Pleas make usr eyou have installed the kernel source files for your kernel; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' rpm installed.  If you know the correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the '--k
[03:06] <TheGame> i thought breezy to dapper was longer than 6 months
[03:06] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: to move them around simply hold your ALT key and click and drag the window to move it.
[03:06] <jordanau> !source > natural20
[03:06] <markrian> TheGame, it was - it was 6 months plus 6 weeks
[03:06] <natural20> !source
[03:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:06] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:07] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: When you've got ubuntu installed you will be able to install the fglrx drivers for your card and you should be able to use normal resolutions.
[03:07] <TheGame> so people on breezy who upgraded to dapper, were there many problems?
[03:07] <Warbo> TheGame: Not for me
[03:07] <Hexidigital> TheGame: i had no problems at all
[03:07] <TheGame> ok
[03:07] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: also if you've got an integrated graphics card in your motherboard it might (but really should not) help to turn it off in the BIOS.
[03:08] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: any questions?
[03:08] <TheGame> so whats anticipated for egdy
[03:08] <stopher> TheGame: I don't know you do I?
[03:08] <TheGame> that would make people want to upgrade
[03:08] <Anderson> Can someone explain to me the function of RJ45 crimping dies. I have only used the simple universal radio shack tye crimpers.
[03:08] <TheGame> beats me
[03:08] <jordanau> !edgy
[03:08] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:08] <stopher> BlueEagle: It's not showing anything...motherboard wise.
[03:08] <markrian> !schedule
[03:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:08] <Cin> !shedule
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shedule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: and what you've got is not DOS but a TTY terminal server.
[03:08] <rockzman> jrib i dont have ubuntu install cd
[03:08] <Warbo> TheGame: Dapper will be supported for years anyway, so you wouldn't need to upgrade
[03:09] <ChaosAFS> BlueEagle: so... what do i type in the black screen :P
[03:09] <BlueEagle> chaosafs: You hit CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot. :)
[03:09] <Hexidigital> !schedule
[03:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:09] <Warbo> ChaosAFS: Look at what I put in quotes above
[03:09] <stopher> ChaosAFS: type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <Anderson> Can someone explain the function of different RJ45 crimping dies? I have only used the simple universal radio shack tye crimpers.
[03:09] <TheGame> ya but if theres something that would make me want to upgrade then i owuld
[03:09] <stopher> if it's connected to the internet, it will install the GUI
[03:09] <Hexidigital> !patience > Anderson
[03:09] <stopher> Anderson: what do you mean 'dies'?
[03:09] <BlueEagle> stopher: Now let me see if I got this right. The disk controller is it on the motherboard or is it an expansion card?
[03:09] <timalot> !dies
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <stopher> Disk Controller? Would be on the motherboard.
[03:10] <ajax4_> A program I've used successfully for months now in Dapper is now crashing. Anyone know how I can check to see if any of the files in the package (or its dependents) are corrupted?
[03:10] <verbose> Anderson: rj-45s have to comply with a standard...what crimps one should crimp another
[03:10] <stopher> it's a real server...honest to goodness....real built server....made for serving BlueEagle.
[03:10] <gary[ubuntu] > !hal
[03:10] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7-1ubuntu18 (dapper), package size 327 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[03:10] <timalot> ajax4_: whats the error
[03:10] <verbose> there are different connectors based on different wire types
[03:10] <verbose> also, different dies fit in different crimpers
[03:10] <exs> I finally have almost everything with my ubuntu now. So, how do I save this?.. Is there a linux equlivant to ghost?... easy with GUI etc?
[03:10] <ajax4_> timalot: It segfaults...the package is xfe (lightweight file manager)
[03:10] <Anderson> verbose, I thought so too, but I have been looking at different crimpers that have modular dies.
[03:10] <verbose> but the pin spacing and whatnot is universal
[03:11] <Warbo> exs: You can just use tar, or even dd
[03:11] <BlueEagle> stopher: That really did not answer my quetsion. The question is if the server has got the SCSI controller buildt in on the motherboard or if it is an expansion card that sits in a PCI slot.
[03:11] <Anderson> verbose, http://www.controlcable.com/details/item.asp?id=43332380|70441|
[03:11] <BlueEagle> question
[03:11] <Warbo> exs: Make an archive of your root directory, then just extract it to restore it
[03:11] <stopher> BlueEagle: It's on the motherboard
[03:11] <ChaosAFS> im gonna reboot and try these commands. if they dont work i'll be back
[03:11] <secleinteer> hey, does any1 know if there's a way to watch rstp mov streams using the mplayer plugin? i'm only getting sound
[03:12] <timalot> ajax4_: if u type dpkg -L <package name> it will list the files in that package... but if its segfaulting it could be anything.... try deleting yuor config for that package and running it
[03:12] <BlueEagle> stopher: I see. Have you got any chance at all to open the chassis of the server and have a look-see on the motherboard in question to determine the producer and model? Perhaps you've got this information in any manuals that may have accompanied the server?
[03:12] <Han> Hmmm I found the proxy setting, but it's ignored. It's a bug.
[03:12] <exs> Norton Ghost alternative?
[03:12] <BlueEagle> stopher: If the server is prebuildt who buildt it and what did they call the server?
[03:12] <stopher> BlueEagle: I have opened the server to look for a model/producer, but can't find anything.
[03:13] <verbose> Anderson: i'm pretty sure what works on one will work on another
[03:13] <ajax4_> timalot: I renamed it and it created new config files but it still segfaults, so I'm operating under the assumption (for now) that one of the packaged files could have gotten corrupted.
[03:13] <stopher> BlueEagle: the manufacturer built it, but no software/docs/anything with it, just called it a server
[03:13] <stopher> BlueEagle: Actually they called it a ProServ
[03:13] <verbose> Anderson: i believe mine is a 2045(older paladin) and it's worked on all rj-45's i've ever crimped
[03:13] <Warbo> exs: Just use "gksudo nautilus /" to get the file manager in root mode, then select the entire contents of / and go "Create Archive" (use tar, not gz or bz2, since they would take AGES)
[03:13] <verbose> if the rj-45 fits in a NIC or switch, it will fit the crimpers
[03:13] <timalot> ajax4_: if its got no dependencies... just remove the package and reinstall it
[03:14] <ajax4_> timalot: Tried that but its still crashing. Didn't try the dependencies though (there are a lot). I was looking for a quick way to reinstall all the dependencies.
[03:15] <Anderson> verbose, ok, also is there different tips or tipping methods for STP?
[03:15] <BlueEagle> stopher: Whi manufactured it? And has it got a number after ProServ?
[03:16] <timalot> ajax4_: problem with removing dependencies is that probably a whole lot of other programs rely on them aswell so it starts getting messy
[03:16] <verbose> Anderson: i'm not sure about that
[03:17] <Anderson> verbose, alright, I'm going to be responsible for a big network, and I was wondering if I could run some ideas by anyone who has experience.
[03:17] <ajax4_> timalot: Well, do you know of a way to just test the packages versus the installed version? I remember RPM had something like this so I figured the DEB files might also.
[03:17] <timalot> ajax4_: have u tried creating another user... logining in as them and running xfe
[03:17] <ajax4_> timalot: Thats a good idea. I'll try that now.
[03:18] <verbose> Anderson: typically, the guy in charge of the big network doesn't crimp cables...he has better things to do
[03:18] <nutshell42> the ubuntu installer hangs after partitioning while it tries to fsck my windows partitions
[03:18] <nutshell42> how do I keep it from doing that?
[03:18] <rockzman> Can someone help why my sgd_0[1] .9450_english.img is higher than my floppy disk if it is used to be a boot image
[03:18] <verbose> Anderson: hire a cable puller
[03:18] <Anderson> verbose, it's not always that easy.
[03:18] <rockzman> Can someone help why my sgd_0[1] .9450_english.img is higher than my floppy disk if it is used to be a boot image
[03:18] <Xappe> nutshell42: maybe if you tell it not to mount them
[03:19] <kitche> rockzman: maybe you made the .img to big
[03:19] <timalot> rockzman: whats the size of the image file?
[03:19] <rockzman> i1.40 MB (1,474,560 bytes)
[03:19] <rockzman> timalot 1.40 MB (1,474,560 bytes)
[03:19] <timalot> rockzman: thats ok
[03:19] <markrian> nutshell42, indeed, don't have ubuntu mount them - you can sort that out later
[03:19] <nutshell42> Xappe,
[03:19] <nutshell42>  could try that, but it gives me an fsck error on a ext2 partition I definitely did not mount
[03:19] <BlueEagle> stopher: I've found a manual for proserv 900, 1200 and 1500 servers. There should probably be one that indicates which of these you've got.
[03:19] <rockzman> kitche why i just unzip it from offical site
[03:19] <nutshell42> so I don't think it cares
[03:20] <BlueEagle> stopher: Actually it goes all the way up to 5000 :)
[03:20] <nutshell42> how do I change any options in the partitioning tool anyway?
[03:20] <rockzman> timalot why when i format my floppy it has a fewer size
[03:20] <kitche> rockzman: you might have to format the floppy differently
[03:20] <nutshell42> I've found no obvious way to change the file system of the / partition
[03:20] <kitche> I know you can format a floppy more then 1.44 mb
[03:20] <rockzman> kitche what kind of floppy is this .img for?
[03:20] <nutshell42> without deleting and recreating the partition
[03:20] <ajax4_> timalot: Crashing still happens :(
[03:20] <timalot> rockzman: because when u format the disk some of the space is taken up by the file index... (directories and stuff)
[03:20] <BlueEagle> stopher: and as far as I can tell the manufacturer is Tangent
[03:20] <rockzman> kitche i formatted that using windows floppy disk formatter and it is not big enough
[03:20] <markrian> I'm very surprised you have an ext2 partition at all, something isn't right
[03:21] <rockzman> timalot what should i do
[03:21] <kitche> rockzman: ah that's why windows floppy puts a lot of junk on a floppy then it should
[03:21] <nutshell42> mako, it's a 50mb boot partition, no reason to use ext3 for that
[03:21] <timalot> rockzman: that image file is the correct size... u can put it on  a disk ok
[03:21] <rockzman> kitche what formatter should i get
[03:21] <Soccrmastr> guys sh files are only opening in text editors for me
[03:21] <timalot> ajax4_: oh well it was worth a try
[03:21] <nathansnook> how do I add java I have tried the wiki and it says package not found
[03:21] <Anderson> verbose, Some of my ideas are, diagram everthing and maintain different levels of diagrams (physical, network, geographic). Also I am going to use twist on tags at both ends of the cable to keep track of what goes where, I will probably put the same information on both ends, switch/port user/location. Keep copies of all of my configurations. Maintain organized software repositories. Get sufficient equipment for all techs.
[03:21] <Soccrmastr> how can I make it open as it should like a shell, i even tried running it from the terminal with sudo still just opens textb editor
[03:21] <kitche> timalot:: he says he can't put it on a floppy though
[03:22] <timalot> kitche: why?
[03:22] <ajax4_> timalot: Yeah, don't know of a way to test the installed packages for integrity?
[03:22] <rockzman> kitche is there how to format a disk and have more free space
[03:22] <kitche> nathansnook: you can go download java from sun's website
[03:22] <kitche> rockzman: yeah you could try the linux floppy formatters
[03:22] <nathansnook> doesn't that require root
[03:22] <Anderson> verbose, I will keep some sort of spread sheet or databases to keep track of everything, and maybe program some new software.
[03:22] <rockzman> kitche where do i get those
[03:22] <nathansnook> to install?
[03:22] <BlueEagle> stopher: You still there?
[03:22] <kitche> roczman: you might have to use rawrite
[03:22] <timalot> ajax4_: the .deb files have a md5 sum ... but i dont know about the individual files inside the package
[03:22] <kitche> to write the img to the floppy
[03:22] <kitche> thinkt hat's what you need to do now I think about it rockzman
[03:23] <ajax4_> timalot: Okay, thanks for your help.
[03:23] <markrian> nutshell42, explain how your partitions are arranged, and exactly what you did in the install - what's being made, formatted, mounted (to where?)
[03:23] <timalot> ajax4_: yeah its annoying when that happens
[03:23] <Soccrmastr> what directory will my USB device open to?
[03:23] <dlab> hmm
[03:23] <jordanau> nathansnook, so sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin did not work?
[03:23] <Soccrmastr> Im trying to plug my camera in, but not sure where to get into it, not opening up in the tree
[03:23] <dlab> what's the quickest way to get to a shell on the ubuntu install cd for sparc?
[03:24] <nathansnook> says Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin
[03:24] <jordanau> Soccrmastr, /media usually
[03:24] <dlab> the standard ncurses installer is too slow to use over alom/telnet
[03:24] <dlab> :P
[03:24] <Soccrmastr> yeah, in there is floppy and cdrom, no usb
[03:24] <stopher> BlueEagle: I'm back sorry about that.
[03:24] <jordanau> nathansnook, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories?
[03:24] <Soccrmastr> but the usb does work because Ive used it for a mous ebefore
[03:24] <timalot> rockzman: u cant just copy the image file onto the floppy... its an image of the floppy
[03:24] <nutshell42> markrian, lots of lvm partitions (no way to manage those with the ubuntu installer or did I miss it?), two ntfs windows partitions, 3 fats, 1 50mb ext2 boot, 2 reiserfs linux partitions, the boot and one of the ntfs partitions are primary the rest extended
[03:24] <timalot> !rawrite
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rawrite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <timalot> !dd
[03:25] <jordanau> Soccrmastr, how about /mnt?
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <nathansnook> jordanau yes
[03:25] <Anderson> !stp
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <nutshell42> I changed nothing, just had it format one of the linux partitions
[03:25] <stopher> BlueEagle: I'm going to go check again, make sure I didn't miss the manufacturer name.
[03:25] <Anderson> Does anyone know anything about tipping STP?
[03:25] <Soccrmastr> nope thats empty :/
[03:25] <BlueEagle> stopher: I am guessing Tangent Computer ProServ 3000 with four 550MHz Xeon processors and six hot-swappable drives and six pci and one isa slot.
[03:25] <BlueEagle> stopher: guess is based on
[03:25] <jordanau> Soccrmastr, you might have to mount it manually
[03:25] <BlueEagle> bahh
[03:25] <markrian> Okay, that's some crazy partitioning scheme you got going on there.
[03:25] <BlueEagle> http://www.gcn.com/print/vol19_no12/2021-4.html
[03:26] <jordanau> nathansnook, are you sure?
[03:26] <BlueEagle> stopher: Seems like an old piece of equiptment tbh. :)
[03:26] <nathansnook> jordanau: how can I double check this?
[03:26] <nutshell42> but it's perfectly in order, no crazy mixture of partitioning tables or anything
[03:26] <Soccrmastr> do u have a link to the wiki article for manually mounting?
[03:26] <Anderson> Does anyone know anything about tipping STP?
[03:26] <Soccrmastr> I am not sure of the commands
[03:26] <markrian> nutshell42, so let me understand this - all you had the Ubuntu installer do is to format one of the reiser partitions?
[03:26] <nutshell42> fdisk (any fdisk, linux, windows, xyzfdisk, you name it) works fine
[03:26] <markrian> nutshell42, And presumably mount that to / ?
[03:27] <nutshell42> yep
[03:27] <nutshell42> oh and a swap partition
[03:27] <nutshell42> forgot that one
[03:27] <dlab> ugh
[03:27] <dlab> even the rescue image uses ncurses..
[03:27] <markrian> Okay
[03:27] <markrian> Which partition throws up an error?
[03:27] <BlueEagle> stopher: however on tangent.com I find no reference to the proserv series so finding the hardware is probably a matter of looking on it.
[03:27] <nutshell42> the second or third windows partition
[03:27] <Soccrmastr> whats the cmmand for manually moubnting
[03:27] <Soccrmastr> mounting*
[03:28] <nutshell42> but I didn't pay attention whether it was the first to be checked
[03:28] <ajax4_> Soccrmastr: There are also applets you can add to your gnome panels that have buttons for mounting and unmounting
[03:28] <timalot> !mount
[03:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:28] <Soccrmastr> i am using xfce
[03:28] <nutshell42> it just gave me an error on the ext2, then continued
[03:28] <Anderson> Does anyone know anything about tipping STP?
[03:28] <nutshell42> and then hang on the fat
[03:28] <timalot> mount <device name> <mount point>
[03:28] <markrian> Are you having Ubuntu mount these partitions, but not format them?
[03:28] <nutshell42> but I don't want it to check those partitions anyway
[03:28] <nutshell42> yep
[03:28] <nutshell42> they work fine
[03:28] <Soccrmastr> hmmm... how to know the device name :/
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> just mount
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> I want to take the images off of the camera
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> and put them onto the laptop
[03:29] <timalot> Soccrmastr: ok
[03:29] <nutshell42> all I want is a way to keep the partitioner or the installer from doing anything
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> not format
[03:29] <markrian> Right, well, the best thing to do then is not to have Ubuntu installer mount them at all
[03:29] <nutshell42> I can format the partitions manually
[03:29] <markrian> Then it won't even read them, so you can install the system
[03:29] <nutshell42> well, that didn't keep it from checking the ext2
[03:29] <markrian> Clearly the Ubuntu installer needs work ;o
 stopher: I am guessing Tangent Computer ProServ 3000 with four 550MHz Xeon processors and six hot-swappable drives and six pci and one isa slot.  <<that sounds about right :)
[03:29] <timalot> Soccrmastr: so it hasnt automatically mounted?
[03:29] <dlab> markrian: agreed....
[03:29] <nutshell42> the partitioning tool especially
[03:29] <Soccrmastr> nope, tried two usb cords too
[03:30] <nutshell42> it's not the first time an ubuntu installation fails while trying to partition the disk
[03:30] <Soccrmastr> its working with my windows pc, and I know the usb port is fine cause ive sued it before
[03:30] <nutshell42> the text based installer once fscked my partition table
[03:30] <stopher> BlueEagle: the cable on the SCSI has a tag on the side that connects to the motherboard. says FoxCONN  probably the cable maker or something.
[03:30] <markrian> nutshell42, I'm not sure what to suggest. You could try downloading the alternate CD instead and installing from that - I do that anyway, it's quicker and easier
[03:30] <markrian> toh.
[03:30] <timalot> Soccrmastr: it's probably going to be like /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[03:30] <nutshell42> the alternate cd?
[03:30] <SlyGuy> hmmm anyone have problems running synatpic?
[03:30] <burnhamd> yes me
[03:31] <markrian> nutshell42, yes, there are several different install discs of Ubuntu 6.06
[03:31] <nutshell42> as long as it gives me more control to tell it what to do and what not to do
[03:31] <nutshell42> I'm happy
[03:31] <Soccrmastr> those fodlers dont exist, should they?
[03:31] <markrian> Desktop, alternate, server
[03:31] <SlyGuy> i get this all of a sudden:
[03:31] <nutshell42> ah I remember
[03:31] <SlyGuy> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:31] <markrian> Alternate can (apparently) handle LVM stuff, and generally more complex systems
[03:31] <nutshell42> I'll try that
[03:31] <dlab> is there another linux distro that'll work on sun4v?
[03:31] <BlueEagle> stopher: Yes. I am looking for the name of the motherboard. I've been all trough the tangent.com website and found various proserv owners manuals but none of them list anythign useful.
[03:31] <burnhamd> synaptic wont load giving me the error libvte.so.4 cannot open shared object file
[03:31] <markrian> It's a whole CD to download, but you should have more lick
[03:31] <Soccrmastr> i looked into dev/bus/usb
[03:31] <markrian> er, luck
[03:32] <nutshell42> thx
[03:32] <Soccrmastr> no, in there is 001
[03:32] <markrian> np
[03:32] <Anderson> Are there different tips or tipping methods for STP?
[03:32] <Soccrmastr> and 005
[03:32] <Soccrmastr> but not sure how to open them
[03:32] <burnhamd> slymaster did you update today?
[03:32] <jaye> Hi everyone when I install vmware workstation I'm not sure what to put in when it asks for the C header files that match your running kernel.  Does anyone know what to put there to not make the install crash?