[11:17] <alocer> u can do the same with windows 7
[11:17] <snikker> alocer: i've already tried with fixboot from xp cdrom
[11:18] <alocer> snikker: ok
[11:18] <BluesKaj> snikker, fixmbr
[11:18] <BluesKaj> with XP
[11:19] <alocer> snikker: 12.04 or 12.10 ?
[11:20] <Feedbook> 12.04 is solid and polished at the moment
[11:21] <alocer> snikker:   i think this works --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205589/a-disk-read-error-while-starting-windows-after-ubuntu-upgrade-boot-repair
[11:24] <vlt> Hello. I’m using thunderbird for IMAP e-mail on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. There’s a problem with a filling up /home partition: ~/.thunderbird is more than 3 GB large and constantly growing while the Maildir on the IMAP server is only 40 MB. Any idea how to prevent this?
[11:24] <jrib> vlt: find out what exactly is taking up that space
[11:25] <alocer> vlt: using disk usage anylyzer plz
[11:25] <alocer> yes that
[11:27] <cshong> Hello!
[11:27] <cshong> I am facing a problem with Ubuntu Software Center.
[11:27] <reduz> hi guys! question, I upgraded to 12.10, but ubuntu will not boot anymore. It complains of not being able to find the root fs (hd0,msdos5) and kernel panics right at the start. Booting with an older kernel works ok though, how do I fix this?
[11:29] <Feedbook> reduz
[11:29] <vlt> jrib, alocer: It’s the directory ~/.thunderbird/<uuid>/ImapMail/<imapp_account>  Do you need more specific data?
[11:29] <jrib> vlt: yes
[11:29] <Feedbook> reduz: which partition format you are using? ext3 or ext4
[11:29] <mellhen> hello@everybody: is this the right place to ask, if graphics fails?
[11:29] <takinya> reduz try booting with a livecd of 12.10 had the same problem and it somehow fixed grub and error
[11:29] <cshong> Ubuntu Software Center does not automatically update the cache.
[11:30] <takinya> cshong try using "sudo apt-get up-get update" from terminal
[11:31] <cshong> I know I can update the cache using the command.
[11:31] <cshong> But,
[11:32] <vlt> jrib, alocer: The three largest files in that directory: 1353    ./Trash      629     ./sent      189     ./INBOX
[11:32] <snoozie> how to changes the cursor theme without having to update-alternatives or whatever that technical jumbo is
[11:32] <vlt> jrib, alocer: .Trash on the server is 25 MB
[11:33] <alocer> vlt: :O awwww
[11:33] <MaxFrames> hello
[11:33] <vlt> jrib, alocer: .cur is only 18 MB
[11:33] <cshong> If the users have to manually run commands just for updating cache, then I am sorry to say that Ubuntu is not user-friendly anymore.
[11:33] <alocer> vlt: i dont know what is going on there
[11:33] <alocer> vlt: but if i were you i try deleting theme ! i m not saying you should !!!
[11:34] <snoozie> cshong, ubuntu hasnt been user friendly since ever
[11:34] <vlt> alocer: I did several times for weeks now.
[11:34] <snoozie> cshong, but its about the closest i spose
[11:34] <MaxFrames> is it possible to configure Ubuntu so that all the updates to the currently installed software is performed automatically and without user interaction? If so, can you tell me how?
[11:34] <vlt> alocer: It’s always growing back to that size within one or two days.
[11:34] <MaxFrames> I want this box to auto update itself, without user intervention because the user won't be a sudoer
[11:34] <snoozie> MaxFrames, does the update manager not handle that for you?
[11:35] <snoozie> MaxFrames, oh i see
[11:35] <bigmeow> hi all
[11:35] <bigmeow> what scsi_eh_0 process means?
[11:35] <jrib> MaxFrames: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/automatic-updates.html there's some gui way too iirc.
[11:35] <MaxFrames> snoozie: I don't know, I have no experience with that; it's for a user who insists upon using Ubuntu in an all-Windows environment
[11:35] <takinya> cshong have you tried updating dpkg?
[11:36] <MaxFrames> I told him OK, but won't set him up as a sudoer
[11:36] <crlcan81> I actually have a question relating to a non-Ubuntu OS client for Ubuntu One
[11:36] <MaxFrames> jrib: looks good, do you know if that works in 12.04 lts too?
[11:37] <jrib> MaxFrames: sure, just change the 12.10 to 12.04 in the url :P
[11:37] <reduz> Feedbook, i'm not sure, let me check
[11:37] <GRRR3> hey fellas, i cannot get ubuntu to install on my DELL INSPIRON laptop. it installs fine and then reboots and just freezes on a blank screen
[11:37] <GRRR3> can anyone please help?
[11:37] <snoozie> MaxFrames, update manager usually requires a password, however most apps are installed globally i believe and only the settings are user-specific, so when the sudoer on said machine updates so does everyone
[11:37] <reduz> Feedbook, ext4
[11:37] <jrib> MaxFrames: I'd be fairly conservative about the repositories you update automatically though.  I would stick to just -security
[11:37] <crlcan81> I'm not sure if it's because of my firewall setup or something else, but whenever I try and log into my pre-existing Ubuntu One account it says 'can't encrypt'
[11:37] <reduz> takinya, just booting the livecd and doing nothing?
[11:37] <cshong> Previously, when I use Ubuntu Brainstorm website to make a suggestion about something related to update cache in Ubuntu Software Center, and my suggestion was not accepted by the developers. And a developer claim that Ubuntu Software Center will update the cache automatically.
[11:38] <crlcan81> I'm running Windows XP SP3 on a OOOLD Gateway business machine.
[11:38] <jrib> MaxFrames: here's the wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[11:38] <MaxFrames> jrib: yes, I think so too
[11:38] <GRRR3> nevermind
[11:39] <crlcan81> Trying to use my Ubuntu One account to upload the files we want to try and transfer to a newer machine, since this one's so old it has a 3 1/4" floppy and only a CD Rom reader.
[11:39] <crlcan81> And I'm not sure how to setup a network file transfer between XP and 7.
[11:39] <takinya> reduz check your boot sequence
[11:39] <cshong> Takiya, I haven't. Because according to the developer, Ubuntu Software Center will update it automatically. I thought it is true.
[11:40] <arcsky> dante is a good proxy server for FTP traffic ?
[11:40] <vlt> jrib: Do you need more specific data?
[11:40] <snoozie> crlcan81, i dont know ow to answer your question, but i can suggest DropBox
[11:40] <takinya> reduz when booting from livecd boot and select try ubuntu without any change to your computer
[11:40]  * crlcan81 nods.
[11:40] <crlcan81> I think I have a dropbox too, if I don't ..I'll make one
[11:40] <jrib> vlt: I would yeah.  But maybe at this point you may want to do some research about whether it's normal for whatever reason
[11:40] <cshong> Anyway, I am going to report this bug.
[11:41] <MaxFrames> jrib: I'd also like to connect to the Ubuntu desktop from my Windows machine. Is it really simple as this? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[11:41] <snoozie> cshong, search first, there may already be a report
[11:41] <reduz> also, ubuntu captured F10, how do i make it not capture F10?
[11:42] <takinya> cshong it does update it automatically but if there is a corrupt file it can be checked from terminal as you boot your computer by using "sudo touch -f"
[11:42] <snoozie> MaxFrames, without looking ill gues that yes it is, ive remote controlled ubuntu via windows rather easily
[11:42] <jrib> MaxFrames: I've used vnc and rdp in the past, but have no experience with xrdp in recent versions.  I assume it's that easy, sure
[11:43] <takinya> reduz on terminal type "sudo badblocks -sv /dev/sda"
[11:43] <MaxFrames> final question: since the system will be dual booted (windows and ubuntu), who knows if there is a way to connect remotely to grub and choose one or the other, then let the chosen OS boot and finally connect via RDP or VNC?
[11:44] <takinya> cshong try "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[11:44] <MaxFrames> suppose I need to boot the machine (wake on lan) and then choose Windows over the default Ubuntu in order to do remote maintenance
[11:44] <MaxFrames> to do this I suppose I need to remotely connect to grub before the OS boots
[11:45] <Priyantha> Hi all
[11:45] <snoozie> MaxFrames, i doubt grub can be controlled remotely, a timer would assist in selecting an OS
[11:45] <Priyantha> I have got a problem with cpu frequency scaling, maybe somebody can help me with that ? :)
[11:45] <Priyantha> I am getting: "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU"
[11:45] <Priyantha> when I run cpufreq-info
[11:45] <Priyantha> but I can't find any governor kernel modules
[11:45] <MaxFrames> snoozie: how can I take advantage of a timer to make a remote system boot off the non default OS?
[11:46] <Priyantha> root@Filerserver:/lib/modules/3.5.0-18-generic# find |grep ondemand
[11:46] <MaxFrames> I mean, if I cannot connect to grub, how do I choose the second OS in the list to boot from?
[11:46] <Priyantha> and it doesn't give me any results :(
[11:46] <snoozie> MaxFrames, wouldnt be able to, only choices are choosing the default or making default the previously selected OS
[11:47] <Pajilleitor> WWW.JIZZDAY.COM
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[11:47] <Pajilleitor> WWW.JIZZDAY.COM
[11:47] <Pajilleitor> WWW.JIZZDAY.COM
[11:47] <FloodBot1> Pajilleitor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <cshong> The issue that I am facing is not only about updating. I just reinstalled Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I want to install a package "build-essential". Regardless of which server I choose in "software sources", I cannot find that package in Ubuntu Software Center. Always, there is an error "No items match......".
[11:48] <nablet> hi, mz wireless suddenlz stoped working. i sue ubuntu 12.04, fluxbox and wicd as network-manager. can anyone help me with trouble shooting. i didn't find anything for that problem online :(
[11:48] <snoozie> MaxFrames, http://superuser.com/questions/183401/remote-control-via-ethernet-a-computer-from-boot-for-grub-choices-on-linux
[11:49] <Priyantha> somebody who can help me with my cpu freq scaling problems ?
[11:49] <Priyantha> the module acpi-cpufreq is not available :'(
[11:50] <petantik> Are the Ubuntu kernels pre configured for usb serial debugging?
[11:50] <cshong> That package should exist. But, the error "No items match....." proved to me that the software center does not update the cache automatically.
[11:50] <snoozie> MaxFrames, spose thats not really valid to your situation
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> !find cpufreq
[11:50] <bazhang> cpufrequtils   Priyantha perhaps that can help
[11:51] <Priyantha> I have installed that package bazhang :)
[11:51] <Priyantha> cpufreq-info is part of that package
[11:51] <bazhang> cshong, pastebin your sources.list
[11:51] <Priyantha> I used that tool to determine that I can't change my frequency, but my CPU should be able to
[11:53] <piotr99999> Hi there
[11:53] <piotr99999> a need a little help
[11:53] <Priyantha> is that because I am running a 3.5.0 kernel maybe ?
[11:54] <cshong> My sources.list
[11:54] <cshong> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120817.3)]/ precise main restricted  # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution. deb http://ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org/ubuntu/ precise main restricted deb-src http://ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org/ubuntu/ precise main restricted  ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribut
[11:54] <MaxFrames> snoozie: indeed. some of our newer systems support the intel amt tecnology but this is not one of them, looks like an ethernet kvm would be the only way
[11:54] <cshong> Wait...
[11:54] <bazhang> cshong, in a pastebin, not the channel
[11:54] <Priyantha> cshong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:55] <nablet> hi, my wireless card randomly stops working and for now i can only fix it a reboot :( sudo iwlist gives me Failed to read scan data: invalid argument
[11:55] <piotr99999> running 12.04 lts server, need to upgrade samba to 3.6.6 which ist availible in 12.10, but i want to stay on 12.04lts. how to do it?
[11:55] <bazhang> piotr99999, either check for a backport/PPA or compile it
[11:56] <piotr99999> bazhang, thx, give me a link where to search backport/PPA
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> piotr99999  but then you can't expect (much) support from the channel
[11:56] <bazhang> piotr99999, backports are a repo you can enable in your package manager, search PPA at the launchpad search ppa site
[11:57] <nini_knoxville> hi
[11:57] <Haunt_House> has anyone succeeded in connecting windows 7 and precise with a switch?
[11:58] <Haunt_House> could use some guidance
[11:58] <cshong> Pastebin URL: http://pastebin.com/54Yy0um2
[12:00] <bazhang> cshong, and apt-cache search does not show it?
[12:00] <snoozie> weird problem of the day, i used cairo dock to disable unity and alt+tab is not working (can't remember if it did before hand)
[12:01] <TomRandom> Hi, I'm having trouble compiling a simple C program on 12LTS which compiled fine on 10LTS. error: undefined reference to, which I believe is because of changes to linker config, but can't figure out how to fix it... any advice?
[12:01] <afidegnum> hello, I want to move all the contents of newpath1 /file/my/newpath/newpath1    to files/my/newpath     where some contents of newpath1 seems idendical to newpath ther are subdirectories inside newpath1    what si the command to use? I am using the mv command which seems not working
[12:02] <bazhang> afidegnum, and "not working" means what exactly. please be clear, and paste the exact command you used
[12:03] <bazhang> !paste | afidegnum
[12:03] <cshong> I haven't update cache yet, so it does not shows. I am worry that if I update the cache through "sudo apt-get update", I am not be able to reproduce the same problem when required by the developers.
[12:03] <bazhang> cshong, you need to update the sources.list...
[12:04] <afidegnum> bazhang: I just used mv * ..
[12:04] <afidegnum> I also used mv -f * ..
[12:04] <bazhang> afidegnum, exact command to pastebin please, along with errors
[12:05] <afidegnum> this is one of the error pls `htmlpurifier' to `../htmlpurifier': Directory not empty
[12:06] <dr_willis> i always just use 'mc' for command line file management
[12:06] <cshong> i know that i need to update the cache to install the package I want. But, I just afraid that I cannot reproduce the problem (Ubuntu Software Center not updating the cache automatically) when required by the developers.
[12:07] <enriq> why when I try to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+package/nvidia-96 apt-get says it is a virtual package included in blah blah
[12:08] <joseph^> why does ubuntu come with embedded adware/spyware?
[12:08] <nablet> hi, mz wireless card powers off after some time and i cant turn it back on :( i tried txpower and all kind of iwlist and iwconfig commands
[12:09] <bazhang> joseph^, it doesnt
[12:09] <bazhang> !adlens | joseph^
[12:09] <nablet> until now i can only get it to work by reboot
[12:09] <cshong> i will manually update the cache later. Before that, I will install Ubuntu in a virtual machine under Windows first, so that I can reproduce the bug by using virtual machine when the developers need it.
[12:10] <joseph^> gnu.org says it does.
[12:10] <joseph^> thanks anyway
[12:10] <bazhang> joseph^, did you have an actual support question
[12:10] <joseph^> that was it.
[12:11] <bazhang> that was not a support question
[12:11] <TomRandom> anyone able to help me with compile problem? i believe it's related to --no-as-needed anyone know about that?
[12:11] <purvesh> can some one help me for ubuntu 12.10 installation on my ultrabook ?
[12:13] <tope> B2B
[12:15] <rgarrigue> Hi guys
[12:15] <rgarrigue> I've an issue trying to launch Konsole with gnome3  menu launcher
[12:16] <rgarrigue> I've some message like unable to switch directory for $HOME
[12:16] <Priyantha> w0000t mine cpu freq is working ;)
[12:16] <Priyantha> it was some BIOS settings to change :)
[12:16] <rgarrigue> Already got this one some month ago, but I'me unable to remember or find the fix again
[12:16] <Priyantha> running a new system and changed some O.C settings, and it was broken, now I changed some things and it's working again :)
[12:17] <Jekyll> rgarrigue: open /usr/share/applications/kde4/konsole.desktop, remove that "Path=$HOME" line
[12:19] <rgarrigue> Thanks Jekyll, it's fixed
[12:20] <justusw> hi there
[12:21] <justusw> ok, I just did a clean install on a 2 year old computer, with 2 AMD HD 6870, and the graphic bugs are really annoying me
[12:21] <justusw> how can I update the standard install to something that actually can cope with my graphics cards?
[12:21] <justusw> The search for Eyefinity Ubuntu did not yield anything usable
[12:21] <Priyantha> you are runnong 12.10 ?
[12:21] <justusw> affirmative
[12:21] <Priyantha> and using the latest fglrx drivers ?
[12:22] <justusw> it's a fresh install using the netinstall image
[12:22] <justusw> I have done nothing besides getting quassel to get to irc
[12:22] <FOSSrookie> Well, you guys may not like my question but...I was looking at some wiki software and I found something called kwiki and um... well I visited its site and was curious as to whether or not this is legit. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/310 shows a link to its main page...why don't you check it out. Just be careful. Is this legit software? If not why is it in the repos?
[12:22] <Priyantha> okay, did you already install the latest fglrx drivers ?
[12:23] <justusw> Priyantha: probably not, if that is not done automatically by the installer. How can I check that and how should I install them if not?
[12:23] <Priyantha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:23] <dr_willis> !info kwiki
[12:24] <chalcedony> how can i get my husband's hard drives to be visible in the gui?
[12:24] <chalcedony> hi dr_willis *hugs*
[12:24] <FOSSrookie> dr_willis: Did you see the site!
[12:24] <dr_willis> chalcedony: what filesystem? you could make fstab entrys or mount them by hand.
[12:25] <tzar> Am completely new to this... can anyone tell me how to launch the apps shown in the Software central??
[12:25] <justusw> Priyantha: I did install that yesterday from the software center, the result was a complete mess that I only could fix with reinstalling
[12:26] <dr_willis> i tend to use tiddlywiki FOSSrookie
[12:26] <dr_willis> tzar: install them. then you can use the dash search feature normally.
[12:26] <justusw> Priyantha: Right now my 3 monitors are working in a way, they're slow and laggy, and there are some graphical artifacts, but they work
[12:27] <dr_willis> !manual | tzar
[12:27] <justusw> after installing the binary driver last time around I was missing the sidebar and other stuff generally considered as need to have
[12:29] <chalcedony> dr_willis, something my husband can do with one hand?
[12:29] <nafa> Hi, I just upgraded from  12.04, and installed the gnome3 packages. now, launching firefox from the terminal works fine, but using the overview in gnome3 it just doesn't start (although firefox claims it's running now)
[12:30] <nafa> any idea what I can do about this?
[12:30] <dr_willis> chalcedony:  huh? that almost sounded... err... dirty.. (^_^)
[12:30] <FOSSrookie> chalcedony: ???
[12:31] <FOSSrookie> chalcedony: You must be really new!
[12:31] <chalcedony> dr_willis, he had a stroke, he can't speak or understand speech, or remember words.. he does use his computer.
[12:31] <chalcedony> f00dMonsta, you must be new, you don't know me?
[12:32] <norbert79> Autotab time :)
[12:32] <FOSSrookie> chalcedony: When we use the term mount we are not talking about a manual (physical) operation.
[12:32] <norbert79> So disabled users
[12:32] <dr_willis> if you want total controll of drives mounting. you can make fstab entries for the devices.
[12:32] <Priyantha> mmm justusw I can't help you further, sorry :(
[12:33] <chalcedony> f00dMonsta, i know.. forgot commands though/
[12:33] <Priyantha> I don't have any ATi/AMD cards here arround to help you testing
[12:33] <norbert79> chalcedony: Press your <TAB> one more time please, you are addressing the wrong person :)
[12:33] <dr_willis> if a windows filesystem is unmounted wrongly.ubuntu may refuse to.automount them.
[12:34] <chalcedony> norbert79, oh yeah! i should go to bed.. he just wants to find his drives ..
[12:34] <norbert79> chalcedony: Regarding one hand use: I think a virtual keyboard on the screen and using the mouse could be helpful
[12:36] <norbert79> I think accessibility tools have an on-screen-keyboard available
[12:36] <chalcedony> hmm atm he's got it set so he can copy and paste without holding down keys
[12:36] <prodnix> Hi all, Im using a live disc for a testdisk session to recover some data. I am using PXE server and booting precise. When i try to ap-get install testdisk it get error "Unable to locate package". any help would be hugely appreciated
[12:37] <chalcedony> norbert79, it drives me crazy but works for him
[12:37] <norbert79> chalcedony: It works for him at least :) Btw, it's called gok: http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/stable/gok.html
[12:37] <dr_willis> !info testdisk
[12:37] <norbert79> !info gok
[12:37] <dr_willis> try a sudo apt-get update   first?
[12:38] <prodnix> dr_willis: tryed
[12:38] <norbert79> prodnix: Are you sure the disk you want to use is enabled in the repository sources?
[12:39] <prodnix> norbert79: explain further please
[12:39] <dr_willis> its on the universe repository. that may not be enabled.
[12:39] <norbert79> prodnix: Well, within the repository sources, or within /etc/apt.d/sources.list the CD-ROM or DVD_ROM must be listed as possible source for packages
[12:39] <norbert79> prodnix: Or what dr_willis meant: some repository resources might have not been enabled
[12:41] <prodnix> norbert79: that sounds like the most likely case but i have no idea what to add in sources.list. so far only "main restricted" are there. only 3 entries altogether
[12:41] <norbert79> prodnix: Since I assume you don't have much experience, I would suggest using Ubuntu software center and then fine-tune it within
[12:41] <norbert79> prodnix: I think it's in "settings", or has it's own menu entry
[12:43] <prodnix> norbert79: tyvm, all sorted!!! thanx all
[12:43] <norbert79> prodnix: You are welcome
[12:43] <loganRun> I am not getting any sound from the subwolfer for some reason. I have hdmi output and the and 5.1 selected, the other 4 speakers seem o.k.
[12:43] <norbert79> prodnix: Would be worth now looking at the sources.list too, so you can see what has been entered there while you have updated your settings :)
[12:43] <loganRun> it feels like it is muted or something, is there like an extended control for the sound or something
[12:44] <prodnix> norbert79: Thats what i did to verify. Hopefully now once -apt-get update is complete i can install testdisk
[12:44] <tommy82934> hello, i have a ubuntu partition with 0 free bytes (i transfered a lot of files to it), and it can`t boot, i`ve acessed through a live cd but i can`t seem to delete files from the kubuntu partition
[12:44] <norbert79> loganRun: Did you try to check how many controllers are listed? I mean sometimes it's just one colume missing. Sometimes I install gnome-alsa-mixer, where I can't fine-tune
[12:44] <tommy82934> how can i delete them
[12:45] <norbert79> prodnix: You will
[12:45] <tommy82934> i`m sorry i misspelled ubuntu for kubuntu
[12:45] <loganRun> norbert: controllers listed where?
[12:45] <norbert79> loganRun: Within the PulseAudio controller
[12:45] <norbert79> loganRun: I have just a few, so I install gnome-alsa-mixer as an additional package to check them in detail
[12:46] <prodnix> norbert79: Perfect, tysm
[12:46] <norbert79> prodnix: yw
[12:46] <norbert79> tommy82934: Ok, first, are you sure there are no bytes free?
[12:46] <tommy82934> hello, i have a partition with kubuntu installed, after transfering some files, i got 0 bytes space free in the partition, and the partition couldn`t boot anymore, now i`ve booted through a live cd to try and delete files so the partition can boot,  but i can`t delete the files , it says they don`t exist
[12:46] <Michiellllaptop> there's nog EQ in rhythmbox or am I blind? alternatives?
[12:46] <tommy82934> yes im sure, (sorry for posting the messag again)
[12:47] <norbert79> Michiellllaptop: Well, normally if you doubleclick the pulseuadio loudspeaker icon it should pop up
[12:47] <norbert79> tommy82934: Well, this happens if you use torrents so often. :) Alright, so you could also try accessing your system using your liveCD and then access the partitions within
[12:48] <loganRun> norbert: how do I access the pulse audio controler, I am just using the sound control under the control pannel, is there another app you were refering to?
[12:48] <norbert79> tommy82934: depending on where you transferred the files you should free up some space there
[12:48] <tommy82934> yes, i tried deleting files on the partition so I could free some space up, but i can`t move them to the trash on the live cd, they are on the home/folder folder
[12:48] <norbert79> loganRun: As told I use the Gnome-alsa-mixer application as additional equalizer
[12:48] <Michiellllaptop> norbert79, where would there be an EQ then? (equalizer)
[12:49] <loganRun> norbert:ok, trying to download that
[12:49] <norbert79> !info gnome-alsa-mixer
[12:49] <norbert79> heh
[12:49] <norbert79> let me check this
[12:49] <tommy82934> norbert79: i get a Could not read /media/
[12:50] <fulcanelli> hello everyone!
[12:50] <cshong> Bug reported. URL: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1075537 . Hopefully, someone who face the same problem will give a comment there.
[12:50] <norbert79> tommy82934: Sounds not good... Are you sure the disk has the partition there?
[12:50] <jackielieu> hello
[12:50] <norbert79> loganRun: gnome-alsamixer
[12:50] <tommy82934> norbert79: yes, there is the root partition in the file manager i can access it
[12:50] <jackielieu> hello everyone,this is the first time using linux
[12:50] <tommy82934> norbert79: maybe it is security and permission related? i can`t  change the permission on the folder im trying to delete
[12:51] <fulcanelli> Nope
[12:51] <fulcanelli> I use Linux from 1998
[12:51] <norbert79> tommy82934: yes, that can occur, you should access your files as admin/root
[12:52] <jackielieu> I always use window before,but now,i find linux is excellent
[12:52] <fulcanelli> what's this chat deal? .. support?
[12:52] <norbert79> fulcanelli: Exactly, #ubuntu-offtopic is for generic talk
[12:52] <loganRun> norbert79: o.k doesn't look like anything except front mike and line are muted
[12:52] <TheLordOfTime> fulcanelli, this channel is for Ubuntu support.  #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussion.
[12:53] <fulcanelli> norbert79: OK!
[12:53] <jackielieu> what are you doing? i am a fresh man
[12:53] <taip> ciao
[12:53] <norbert79> loganRun: Well, can't help you further there, sorry, I have no access to any 5.1 capable device at this moment, or any recent Ubuntu
[12:53] <taip> italian list
[12:54] <norbert79> loganRun: Though you might want to check something: check if all available sections are listed
[12:54] <tommy82934> norbert79: i`ve accessed with root file manager and was able to delete, thanks for the help
[12:54] <norbert79> loganRun: Like sometimes some controllers are hidden as default... Check the mixer-menu
[12:54] <fulcanelli> I am using XChat .... any recomendation for a better IRC client?
[12:54] <dr_willis> xchat works well
[12:55] <ThinkT510> fulcanelli: what's wrong with xchat?
[12:55] <norbert79> fulcanelli: Depends on what you prefer, but I think that's not a generic support realted question, more like depends on taste :)
[12:55] <norbert79> tommy82934: You are welcome
[12:55] <cshong> I leave now. Thanks to everybody who responded to me.
[12:55] <fulcanelli> I don't like the GUI ... that's all
[12:55] <TheLordOfTime> fulcanelli, irssi exists. its command line.
[12:55] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[12:55] <norbert79> fulcanelli: Use Irssi then :)
[12:55] <norbert79> or ircII
[12:55] <ThinkT510> fulcanelli: weechat is a terminal client
[12:56] <dr_willis> i prefer weechat over irssi
[12:56] <loganRun> norbert79: should the subwolfer be LFE? I am not seeing anything hidden in the menu's
[12:56] <MK``> I'm using the Classic desktop in Ubuntu 11.10. Is there any way to move the clock? It's in the top center of the screen, I'd like to move it to the right
[12:56] <fego> +1 for weechat :)
[12:56] <norbert79> loganRun: No idea really :(
[12:56] <petantik> Are the Ubuntu kernels pre configured for usb serial debugging?
[12:57] <petantik> Anyone know?
[12:57] <loganRun> norbert79: seems like it is , low frequency effects from google, but not sure what to do next still no sound from that channel
[12:57] <norbert79> petantik: No idea, is /var/log/syslog or dmesg not talkative enough?
[12:57] <fulcanelli> Thank you for your advice ... I will try this other clients
[12:58] <fulcanelli> Now I have to go .... goodbye
[12:58] <norbert79> loganRun: You could also check /var/log/syslog or messages, maybe something was there about the missing of your subwoofer...
[12:58] <petantik> norbert79: I'm setting up kernel debugging
[13:00] <justusw> how can I rearrange my monitors?
[13:01] <justusw> catalyst control centershows me all three of them
[13:01] <justusw> but they're stuck together in a stupid way and I can't move more than one of them at the same time
[13:02] <loganRun> norbert: seems like it works for other stuff, I guess it is just the test gui that is screwed up
[13:02] <justusw> that is, not in ccc but in the ubuntu menu
[13:02] <norbert79> loganRun: Interesting...
[13:02] <norbert79> loganRun: But it works at least
[13:03] <loganRun> norbert: yeah, good enoough
[13:03] <poire21> Hi. Wondering if anyone has heard of problems with Logitech k750 keyboard in Ubuntu. It works but I am experiencing weird bugs
[13:04] <smith765> Hello Everyone, I am having some problems while updating repositories, i get this error Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/restricted/source/Sources  404  Not Found Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updat
[13:04] <llutz> petantik: grep USB_SERIAL /boot/config-$(uname -r) |less
[13:04] <Guest11600> in unity desktop, ubuntu 12.04.. whenever i switch application by pressing Alt+Tab, there is this application although its not even installed - inkscape, and no process running. how to get rid of it ?
[13:05] <Guest11600> any1 else with the same problem ?
[13:05] <petantik> llutz: excellent, exactly what i was looking for.
[13:06] <projectrallus> heya
[13:07] <Guest11600> I upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 from 10.04. While switching apps. using Alt+Tab keys, inkscape shows up in the list for no reason :(
[13:07] <projectrallus> I heard you can run Ubuntu alongside windows without defaulting to either platform
[13:07] <Guest11600> any idea guys ?
[13:08] <projectrallus> How would I go about doing that?
[13:08] <DJones> !dualboot | projectrallus
[13:09] <projectrallus> Oh, thanks, man!
[13:09] <fego> !gender | projectrallus
[13:09] <sandbags> is there a way to have rsync explain why it wants to update a file? I already have -vv
[13:10] <projectrallus> wait, you're a bot?
[13:10] <DJones> projectrallus: ubottu is a bot triggered by people in the channel to give commonly requested information
[13:11] <luke> eeee
[13:11] <smith765> Do anyone know solution to my problem
[13:11] <poire21> I am using 12.04 and the bugs I experience with k750 keyboard are in Nautilus, can only type one letter to skip to files beginning with that letter, and in Google Chat window if you type too fast the cursor jumps to before the letter you just typed. This does not happen when tested under Windows 7
[13:12] <norbert79> smith765: maybe it's a temporary issue... I would go with "apt-get clean all" "apt-get update" as second try
[13:13] <purvesh> can some one help me for ubuntu 12.10 installation on my ultrabook, I am unable to view installation type ?
[13:13] <smith765> but I am having this problem for more than two weeks, I have changed my ubuntu many times
[13:16] <projectrallus> Okay, so I click the DL link that says "run Ubuntu alongside it"?
[13:16] <projectrallus> there's a ton of DL links
[13:18] <Fuzzles> anyone know how to get blacklight retrubution working in wine?
[13:19] <norbert79> Fuzzles: I think http://www.winehq.org might be a better help :)
[13:20] <norbert79> Fuzzles: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13983 - You might want to run winetricks before you install the game. apt-get install winetricks. Use it for installing directX and Visual C runtime
[13:21] <brun0> when i exit from a "ssh -X" session the processes that i created keep running in background ?
[13:21] <norbert79> brun0: Depends. If you have ran it with "nohup" then they stay, but I would recommend using "screen" or "tmux"
[13:21] <Fuzzles> norbert79, so use the winetricks direct x and visual c instead of what comes with the game?
[13:21] <norbert79> brun0: So you can always return to their display
[13:21] <norbert79> Fuzzles: You can use those too...
[13:22] <norbert79> Fuzzles: Never tried the game, I just give the advice from past experience
[13:22] <Fuzzles> norbert79, ok thanks what is winetricks exactly? like a front end for wine like playonlinux?
[13:22] <norbert79> Fuzzles: Similar, yes, a bit older, and more limited, but helps sometimes
[13:23] <Fuzzles> norbert79, ok thanks hopefully wine will make a big breakthrough sometime soon to hel alot of ppl like me haha
[13:23] <louiemat> #pinguyOS
[13:23] <brun0> norbert79: cool. i'm using screen with byobu ;-)
[13:23] <norbert79> Fuzzles: It already went a great way, you couldn't imagine how hard it was before 1.0 :)
[13:24] <norbert79> brun0: tmux is a bit better imho, provides more features and uses more "eye-candy"... I would give both a try. Screen uses Ctrl-a, tmux: Ctrl-b
[13:24] <Fuzzles> norbert79, you have a good point :) is it always best to sue the latiest dev version of wine?
[13:24] <norbert79> both use Ctrl-a or b and ? for generic help, but you can remap the key-shortcut to something else
[13:24] <norbert79> Fuzzles: I do so
[13:25] <norbert79> Fuzzles: Sometimes it 'breaks' things though
[13:25] <norbert79> Fuzzles: But works ok for me more often
[13:25] <amoeba> Hey guys. I've just installed 12.10, but it doesn't load without the boot parameter libata.atapi_passthru16=0. How can I set this? I've tried doing it from the live USB that I used for installing, by selecting 'Try Ubuntu...', adding the parameter to /etc/default/grub, but when I run update-grub, I get 'error: failed to get canonical path of /cow'.
[13:25] <Fuzzles> norbert79, ok thanks if i can get some of my games working on ubuntu i would gladly get rid of my windows partision
[13:25] <norbert79> Fuzzles: Like earlier, before 1.3 I couldn't run Heroes of Might and Magic III with directX+Wine through network, now it works great
[13:26] <norbert79> amoeba: You want to update the files in /etc/grub.d
[13:27] <norbert79> amoeba: And then do update-grup
[13:27] <norbert79> use the last file for your changes, I think it could fit there, but let me check Google for a bit
[13:27] <Fuzzles> norbert79, did it take much tweaking?
[13:28] <brun0> exit
[13:28] <norbert79> Fuzzles: HoMM3? No, I had to install DirectX for DirectPlay8 with winetricks and then it started working.
[13:28] <norbert79> amoeba:  /etc/default/grub edit this file, add your kernel parameter at the end
[13:29] <Fuzzles> norbert79, cool well done :)
[13:29] <norbert79> amoeba: sudo update-grub after it
[13:29] <amoeba> norbert79: when i do sudo update-grub i get 'error: failed to get canonical path of /cow'
[13:29] <norbert79> amoeba: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" you mkight want to look for a similar line
[13:29] <norbert79> ehm, /cow?
[13:29] <norbert79> how did that get there?
[13:30] <amoeba> norbert79: no idea!
[13:30] <norbert79> amoeba: You might want to check all files, like grub config and the contents in /etc/grub
[13:30] <amoeba> norbert79: someone seemed to have a similar problem, but the solution eludes me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb
[13:30] <norbert79> and /etc/default/grub
[13:31] <norbert79> amoeba: Oh, not a generic installed system, but liveUSB... huhh, no idea there
[13:31] <norbert79> amoeba: Anyway, try this: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[13:31] <norbert79> as offered
[13:32] <amoeba> norbert79: i tried that, it failed on the second step ('sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev'), complaining that /mnt/dev didn't exist
[13:33] <mr_daniel> Some seconds ago I installed "aptitude install nginx", but why is 'stat' telling me that a config-file was modified 2012-03-39, so many months ago?
[13:33] <mr_daniel> I mean the file /etc/nginx/sites-available/default, this is the stat: http://pastebin.com/uVFPTBKY
[13:33] <mr_daniel> The file was just created, so how the Modified (mtime) can be so old?
[13:33] <mr_daniel> I thought, that when a file is created, atime = mtime = ctime = NOW
[13:33] <mr_daniel> but it seems like it is not? I am confused right now
[13:33] <norbert79> mr_daniel: Nope, since it was unpacked from a package
[13:33] <dr_willis> i dident think the live usb setup used grub. but used syslunyx
[13:34] <dr_willis> syslinux
[13:34] <norbert79> dr_willis: No idea there really
[13:35] <norbert79> mr_daniel: If you create a ZIP or a tar.gz and compress your old files there, so when you depack them they are created with their packed times
[13:35] <gaetano_> #ubuntustudio
[13:36] <llutz> mr_daniel: the file you refer is not created a few seconds ago, it was just copied from deb-archive
[13:36] <mr_daniel> norbert79: isn't that a security problem, so linux is 'forgiving' with packaged files and accepts every ctime it is given? an attacker, for example could upload a PHP-Shell and set the ctime to an arbitrary value, which makes detecting just files very hard
[13:37] <mr_daniel> In my opinion ctime should be bound and set according to the local filesystem, and not taken from files from a package etc.
[13:37] <llutz> mr_daniel: you realise that ctime != creation time?
[13:38] <mr_daniel> no, ctime = "last time chen metadata of file changed, e.g. after chown or chmod etc."
[13:38] <mr_daniel> but for me ctime has some sort of security feature, because it can't be manipulated by "touch", but is managed by the file system
[13:39] <mr_daniel> well, I though it can't be manipulated, but it seems like the ctime from a file in a package is silently taken as correct
[13:39] <Watertoast> hello
[13:40] <norbert79> mr_daniel: Don't you think, that the actions you have just listed need some quite exclusive knowledge and skills? :)
[13:40] <norbert79> so a file creation time at that point isn't interesting anymore
[13:40] <mr_daniel> oh wait a minute... here is the link again: http://pastebin.com/uVFPTBKY
[13:40] <Watertoast> i left my notebook closed for a few hours and when i open it the screen doesn't activate
[13:40] <mr_daniel> ctime is fine and good as I expected it, it is
[13:41] <mr_daniel> mtime that is set to past, well, I am fine with it because it can be set with "touch" either
[13:41] <mr_daniel> ok, the world is ok again :)
[13:41] <llutz> norbert79: there is no "file creation time " on ext-fs (yet)
[13:41] <Watertoast> can  somebody help me?
[13:42] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: is the battery empty?
[13:43] <Watertoast> mr_daniel: np
[13:43] <Watertoast> *no
[13:43] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: there are some hard things, like Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart the xerver
[13:43] <mr_daniel> but this will kill the desktop session and all operned docs are lost
[13:44] <norbert79> mr_daniel: I wouldn't recommend it, and it's disabled default
[13:44] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: maybe you could switch through displayes with Ctrl+Alt+{1,2,3,4,5,6,7}
[13:44] <norbert79> mr_daniel: Yes, that's more a trick...
[13:44] <mr_daniel> or the combination is another one, not sure if it is Ctr+Alt+Num
[13:44] <norbert79> Watertoast: Are you sure everything else works, just your GUI not?
[13:44] <Watertoast> mr_daniel: ctrl+alt+number does not do anything
[13:45] <Watertoast> norbert79: the diplay is off and doesn't turn back on
[13:45] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: you don't have a ssh-server running on laptop maybe?
[13:45] <Watertoast> yes
[13:45] <mr_daniel> thats *fantastic*!
[13:45] <norbert79> mr_daniel: He meant no...
[13:45] <mr_daniel> you could login remotly
[13:45] <Watertoast> and kill the x server?
[13:46] <JValentin|VWC> server edition question: I'm thinking of getting a vps and ubuntu is one of the options. Anyone know pros and cons? Is it as secure and fase as centos?
[13:46] <norbert79> or maybe he indeed has SSH running... Killing X server is a way, but you lose everything running
[13:46] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: well, don't kill xserver if there are important documents open that are not saved
[13:46] <dr_willis> word processor autosave feature.... a life saver. when it works.
[13:46] <mr_daniel> dr_willis: :)
[13:47] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: The question is wrong. This depends on what you need. If you need for example Debian based layout, it's as good as a plain Debian. The pro: has good debian support, has canonical behind it, things work good, is prepared for server usage.
[13:47] <Ubunewb> Hello there, I have photographed a long document page by page, and now I want to put those single jpgs into one pdf file. What program should I use?
[13:47] <mr_daniel> ssh-login is good, but I also don't know exactly what to do with it. I only know the strategy "kill the xserver", but this is no real solution
[13:47] <dr_willis> the apps could be dead allready also.
[13:47] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: But for server use it's not the phiolosphy deciding, but the applications and middleware you want to run on them
[13:47] <norbert79> Ubunewb: For example LibreOffice
[13:48] <dr_willis> Ubunewb: as text or big images?
[13:48] <JValentin|VWC> actually, this is for a vps web server, so I don't think I'll need libreoffice
[13:48] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: LibreOffice was meant for Ubunewb
[13:48] <daviddoria> Are the video driver settings specific to a user? That is, I have the video driver+settings setup how I want them. Now I want to try a different driver, but be able to "fall back" on the current setup. If I create a new user, can I play around and change things and not make them effect the first user? Or since everything is done at a "system level" (with sudo) is that not the case?
[13:48] <Ubunewb> dr_willis: big images, since its hand written
[13:48] <JValentin|VWC> I mostly need svn, git and other such tools
[13:48] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: VPS server: it's fine, but as every other server it needs configuring as of course. I would use the alternative installer so you can minimaize the used space.
[13:48] <dr_willis> daviddoria: drivers are not user specific
[13:49] <Ubunewb> norbert79: which program out of the package?
[13:49] <norbert79> Ubunewb: Writer
[13:49] <daviddoria> dr_willis, ok, so then there is no way to do what I'm suggesting?
[13:49] <norbert79> Ubunewb: Make the page re-set to no margins, and you can then stretch all scanned pages to maximum size
[13:49] <Ubunewb> norbert 79: just insert jpgs and export as pdf? will it come out good?
[13:49] <norbert79> Ubunewb: Well, got any other better idea? :)
[13:49] <JValentin|VWC> norbert79:  I'm going to be running drupal and magento apps, is there any concern with requirements of those? Mostly performance is my concern
[13:50] <llutz> Ubunewb: "convert *.jpg foo.pdf"
[13:50] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: I doubt, that you would see any performance issues
[13:50] <dr_willis> daviddoria: not that i know if.
[13:50] <JValentin|VWC> also some kind of control panel
[13:50] <JValentin|VWC> I understtand there's webmin
[13:50] <norbert79> llutz: That needs imagemagick, Libreoffice is installed as default
[13:50] <VLanZ> i've a problem with compiz on 12.10. Apparently i cannot change the duration of the "mninimize effect". Could anyone please acknowledge?
[13:50] <Ubunewb> llutz: is that imagemag...ok, forget it, but can it convert a lot of jpgs into one single pdf too?
[13:50] <JValentin|VWC> not sure if it has what I need, like domain and email management
[13:50] <llutz> Ubunewb: it can
[13:51] <daviddoria> dr_willis, ok I figured as much, thanks
[13:51] <Ubunewb> norbert79: I only got openoffice installed, so I would have to update it into libre as well
[13:51] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: Use what it's the easiest to use for you... I would have no issues with any server ditribution, but you might bump into issues.
[13:51] <norbert79> Ubunewb: OpenOffice is fine too
[13:52] <Ubunewb> somehow imagemagick is preinstalled here too
[13:52] <JValentin|VWC> I have worked with only centos via ssh, but keep an ubuntu desktop machine
[13:52] <norbert79> Ubunewb: Well, there you go then
[13:52] <dr_willis> VLanZ:  saw some new tweak tool at webupd8 or omgubuntu websites last week that could do that and more. i forget the name. :-(
[13:52] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: Different philosophy for some packages, and layout, but works as easy as CentOS
[13:52] <Ubunewb> norbert79: llutz: Thanks you too, I will try it
[13:52] <Ubunewb> two*
[13:53] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: So no differences really, only for specific applications like Lotus Notes, Oracle DB or other Enterprise related tools
[13:53] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: the last two are mostly supported with RedHat ES/CentOS/Scientific OS
[13:53] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: just make sure you configure it well, set firewall rules ok, limit SSH access, etc
[13:53] <user2> ive got a stupid question, how do i run additional drivers (jockey)
[13:54] <JValentin|VWC> I understand that my l old favorite cpanel, is only for centos, but I guess I can get used to some of the others
[13:54] <user2> ive got it on my dash bar and it has a locked symbol on the icon, ive tried sudo jockey in terminal, and it cant find the command
[13:54] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: You might want to review this document later on too: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/securing-debian-howto.en.pdf - Many of these things written here applies to Ubuntu too
[13:54] <ThinkT510> user2: are you on 12.10?
[13:55] <user2> 12.04 LTS
[13:55] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: And you could check this too: http://debian-handbook.info/
[13:55] <ThinkT510> user2: gksudo jockey-gtk
[13:55] <JValentin|VWC> ok, thx
[13:55] <JValentin|VWC> I'll look at those
[13:55] <eamon> can somebody help? my computer won't boot. I let a program change registry settings. all i have is an ubuntu live CD. this just flashes on the screen before shutting down http://i.imgur.com/1iZmX.jpg . the program has an option to revert the changes, how would I use ubuntu to open it and revert the changes? This is the program http://www.resplendence.com/sanity_features.htm
[13:56] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: http://debian-handbook.info/download/stable/debian-handbook.pdf - As direct-link
[13:56] <JValentin|VWC> I everyone's advice
[13:56] <user2> RANDR is missing
[13:57] <norbert79> eamon: I think it's F8 you are looking for. You should press F8 before windows boots, and select: restore last working settings
[13:57] <norbert79> eamon: Yet I also should remind you this is not Helpdesk, but Ubuntu Helpdesk for Ubuntu related problems :)
[13:58] <ctrl> hi all!
[13:58] <eamon> norbert79: F8 doesn't work on my computer, I always had to ge into msconfig and select boot in safe mode, then restart.
[13:59] <norbert79> eamon: Well, use your Windows Installer DVD and use the rescue mode... I think Microsoft support would be glad to help you out
[13:59] <ctrl> anybody tried install ofed in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[13:59] <ctrl> im talking about infiniband support :)
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[13:59] <eamon> norbert79: I did that already and it didn't work.
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> is there a tool for ubuntu 12.04 LTS to analyze the headers of incomming mails through thunderbird?
[13:59] <user2> thinkt510: it says extension RANDR is missing on my display
[13:59] <norbert79> eamon: Well, Microsoft support is left for you
[14:00] <user2> i dont think im usind randr
[14:00] <ThinkT510> user2: sorry, i can't help
[14:00] <chucktewks> mornin - all - quick question - i'm getting a red "!" thats telling me one or more of my software sources are out of date - what's the apt command to update that list?  there are no errors seen in the GUI utility
[14:01] <ikonia> chucktewks: sudo apt-get update
[14:01] <user2> thanks Think510 for your help still
[14:01] <justus> is there a dedicated help channel for wine related questions?
[14:01] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[14:01] <DJones> !wine | justus
[14:01] <ThinkT510> justus: #winwhq
[14:01] <chucktewks> ikonia, thanks
[14:01] <ikonia> justus: #winehq
[14:02] <norbert79> justus: http://www.winehq.org/irc
[14:02] <TheLordOfTime> Wiz_KeeD, you may need a thunderbird addon, but tha'ts not Ubuntu's purview
[14:02] <ctrl> hey! anybody tried install ofed in 12.10?
[14:02] <Ubunewb> IIutz: Thanks, imagemagick worked great!
[14:02] <norbert79> ctrl: No
[14:02] <TheLordOfTime> Wiz_KeeD, i'd check with the Thunderbird people on irc.mozilla.org and check there.
[14:02] <Blacklite_> where is my conky config in ubuntu 12.10
[14:03] <norbert79> Blacklite_: man conky
[14:03] <ThinkT510> Blacklite_: the default used is /etc/conky/conky.conf
[14:04] <chucktewks> ikonia, is there a way to actually recreate that list
[14:04] <ikonia> chucktewks: what list ?
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm connection refused, i don't really care they come through thunderbird i just want to analyze the headers TheLordOfTime
[14:11] <santosh__> hello
[14:12] <T-DeskTop> hello
[14:12] <santosh__> i have a problem in ubuntu 12.10. My right click doesnt work in desktop, but works in normally in file manager part
[14:12] <santosh__> i have a problem in ubuntu 12.10. My right click doesnt work in desktop, but works in normally in file manager part1
[14:12] <TheLordOfTime> Wiz_KeeD, i don't know any type of software in Ubuntu to do that.  whats your goal with that?
[14:13] <santosh__> right to click to create folder or change background like dat
[14:13] <Wiz_KeeD> i have a opensource platform that mimics a crm helpdesk solution and it uses some headers to identify which email belong to which ticket, apparently sending from mobile devices and smartphones doesn't work, so i need to find out why, what's getting lost
[14:16] <Haunt_House> ok, so after 90 minutes I got win7 and ubuntu12 to ping each other. now ubuntu claims that the sharing service is not installed. Do I need that or is it optional?
[14:17] <dr_willis> samba does wundows shares Haunt_House
[14:18] <dr_willis> !samba
[14:18] <Haunt_House> ah, ok
[14:18] <zykotick9> Haunt_House: fyi saying "ubuntu12" isn't really specific enough.  there is an ubuntu 12.04 and a 12.10...
[14:18] <Haunt_House> 12.04
[14:20] <justus> grub-update doesn't find all the bootloaders in my system, how can I force it to use one I know to be there?
[14:20] <e01> how can i start apache2 on ubuntu 11.10 as root
[14:21] <Robbilie> with sudo? :D
[14:22] <dr_willis> e01: why do you need to?
[14:22] <ikonia> e01: it will seperate to be owned by root
[14:22] <ikonia> e01: the controlling process is owned by root, it's called privilege seperation
[14:22] <dr_willis> sudo service servicename start
[14:22] <zykotick9> e01: fyi, apache STARTS as root, then properly drops to another user
[14:22] <purvesh> can some one help me for ubuntu 12.10 installation on my ultrabook, I am unable to view installation type ?
[14:22] <e01> dr_willis: because i use my personal laptop for my needs in separatated network
[14:22] <ikonia> e01: that still doesn't mean you need to run it as root
[14:23] <e01> and i am tired and always have problem with setuping access to folders for vhosts
[14:23] <ikonia> e01: again, that won't change running it as root
[14:23] <ikonia> e01: the internal apache permissions will still need setting up
[14:24] <e01> damn... i spent 3hours just to understand why i get 403 :( and still can't
[14:24] <e01> directory has permission 777
[14:24] <ikonia> e01: I suggest you start learning how to use apache rather than trying to run it as root which will make no difference to your permission problems
[14:25] <e01> okay i promise i will
[14:25] <ikonia> don't have to promise, I don't care if you do or don't
[14:25] <e01> but i have to do my current task now
[14:25] <dr_willis> cant too open of permissions trigger security features.?
[14:25] <ikonia> dr_willis: only on things like appamour/selinux
[14:25] <e01> so, any idea how to give apache full permission to read whatever it have
[14:25] <ikonia> dr_willis: apache internally dosn't care
[14:25] <ikonia> e01: what user is apache being run as ?
[14:25] <e01> www-data
[14:26] <ikonia> e01: where is the document root
[14:26] <e01>  at /home/e01/Projects/www/p1
[14:26] <ikonia> e01: what is the permissions of /home/e01/Projects/www/p1
[14:26] <e01> drwxrwxrwx
[14:26] <ikonia> e01: and of /home/e01/Projects
[14:27] <e01> same
[14:27] <ikonia> e01: and of /home/e01/
[14:27] <e01> 755
[14:27] <ikonia> e01: and of /home/
[14:27] <e01> 755
[14:27] <ikonia> e01: ok, so from a file system perspective, your permissions should be fine for the apache daemon to read the files
[14:27] <ikonia> e01: so the problem will be the internal apache permissions/rules
[14:28] <UICTamale> Am I supposed to be using compiz with ubuntu 12.10 ?
[14:28] <e01> ikonia: i know that rights are fine, taht is reason i ask how to run as root or superman or batman
[14:28] <jrib> heh...
[14:28] <e01> ikonia: but i still get an error  pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable
[14:28] <ikonia> e01: running as root won't change anything
[14:29] <ikonia> e01: that is a totally different error than the 403 you specificed a minute ago
[14:29] <ikonia> e01: what's the actual problem you are trying to resolve
[14:29] <e01> in every forum or tut that i was reading, everybody suggest to giving a 777
[14:29] <e01> and how this will change the life
[14:29] <e01> hm
[14:29] <ikonia> please stop quoting file permissions, they are fine
[14:29] <ikonia> ok, I'm bored of you now
[14:29] <ikonia> good luck
[14:29] <ikonia> e01: tell me the problem you are trying to resolve
[14:30] <e01> ikonia: access the root directory for vhost
[14:30] <e01> and stop gettin 403
[14:30] <ikonia> e01: not interested,
[14:31] <ikonia> you keep changing things in your information, so I suggest asking others in here or the #httpd channel
[14:31] <UICTamale>  Anyone familiar with state of ATI drivers on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[14:31] <ikonia> UICTamale: in what respect "the state"
[14:32] <mneptok> UICTamale: fglrx or radeon?
[14:32] <UICTamale> ikonia: Well, I'll start with my own observation - after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10, using the open source radeon driver both times, I went from a very responsive and fluid compiz / unity desktop to a very unresponsive / buggy compiz/unity desktop
[14:33] <UICTamale> So, I'm curious if I should try the fglrx drivers instead
[14:33] <UICTamale> because maybe there's a known issue with the new kernel and the open source radeon drivers
[14:33] <snikker|2> is possible to use grub2 in dual boot (lin+win) without install grub2 also on the second disk?
[14:33] <ThinkT510> UICTamale: works fine for me
[14:33] <ikonia> UICTamale: well, the fglrx are provided by ati/amd, so the "state" of them is in the hands/control of ati/amd and how well they support the card you use
[14:34] <UICTamale> Sorry, state was a poor choice of words
[14:34] <UICTamale> I simply mean is there a recommendation to go along with 12.10
[14:34] <ikonia> UICTamale: depends on the card and the functionality you want
[14:34] <UICTamale> ThinkT510: Which ATI card do you have?
[14:34] <mneptok> UICTamale: you could always sit on 12.04, since you know your hardware works well with it.
[14:34] <moosec> Has anyone setup ISPconfig3 on Ubuntu Server 12.10?
[14:34] <UICTamale> mneptok: I'm wishing I had :(
[14:34] <iceroot> snikker|2: yes
[14:34] <UICTamale> mneptok: Unfortunately, I've never successfully rolled back to a previous version of ubuntu
[14:35] <iceroot> !anyone | moosec
[14:35] <purvesh> snikker|2, hey can you help me for installing ubuntu if you have idea about 2 hard disk?
[14:35] <ikonia> UICTamale: because you can't roll back
[14:35] <mneptok> UICTamale: because rollbacks are nigh impossible
[14:35] <ceva> can anyone recommend a good fxp client for 12.10 ?
[14:35] <snikker|2> iceroot: how? i've tried but doesn't work
[14:35] <UICTamale> Right, and thus, why I'm here now
[14:35] <dr_willis> snikker|2: grub just needs to be on the hd you are booting from. normally.
[14:35] <iceroot> !details | snikker|2
[14:35] <mneptok> UICTamale: you could also try a DE that doesn't require compositing.
[14:35] <iceroot> snikker|2: as dr_willis says
[14:35] <ThinkT510> UICTamale: radeon hd 6320
[14:36] <UICTamale> ThinkT510: Thanks
[14:36] <dr_willis> snikker|2: i use a 2 hd setup. grub is on sdb for me
[14:36] <IdleOne> snikker|2: you usually install grub to the first drive which is normally /dev/sda
[14:36] <ceva> Should I be in a different channel ?
[14:36] <Forty-3> does anyone here speak spanish?  I have a user I can't communicate with effectively
[14:36] <dr_willis> linux is all on sdb. windows is all on sda
[14:36] <UICTamale> Is anyone here using 12.10 and fglrx?
[14:36] <IdleOne> !es | Forty-3
[14:36] <ikonia> UICTamale: why are you asking that ?
[14:36] <ikonia> UICTamale: what do you expect to get ?
[14:36] <UICTamale> ikonia: Confirmation that it works?
[14:37] <dr_willis> UICTamale: the exact chipset matters
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: did you not read what I said
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: it depends on the card you want, the version you run and the support needs
[14:37] <alabala> Hi,recommend me a good editor,will mainly use for html/php/js & etc.. any idea
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: what are the odds that someone has the same physical card, the same version of the drivers and the same support needs as you
[14:37] <Erik_D> alabala: vim
[14:37] <Erik_D> or gedit
[14:37] <Haunt_House> alabala: I liked geany
[14:37] <dr_willis> alabala: check out geany or vim
[14:37] <UICTamale> Quite good, I'd assume, when there are 1697 people here
[14:37] <ceva> i there a channel for questions about add on application for Ubuntu ?
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: you have to do some leg work yourself, the state/support of the versions is on the ati website,
[14:37] <Erik_D> or even emacs
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: cross-reference that
[14:37] <alabala> thanks guys
[14:38] <purvesh> snikker|2, hmm...
[14:38] <sets88> народ кто знает почему в ip route   src не работает?
[14:38] <mneptok> alabala: jEdit will let you use the same GUI editor on almost any OS. excellent programmer's editor.
[14:38] <UICTamale> ikonia: Are you representative of what the IRC channel has become?  Berate people who come in asking for advice?
[14:38] <ikonia> UICTamale: I'm not berating you
[14:38] <ikonia> UICTamale: I've answered you and explained where to get the basic info
[14:38] <UICTamale> you've done no such thing
[14:38] <moosec> Does anyone know why when installing ispconfig3 you get No PHP MySQL functions available. Please ensure that the PHP MySQL module is loaded when all listed steps in guide were followed
[14:38] <UICTamale> you've essentially told me to google it and gtfo
[14:38] <ikonia> UICTamale: it's actually helping you
[14:39] <alabala> mneptok, thank u :)
[14:39] <ikonia> UICTamale: ???? I've explained that the support of the ati drivers depends on the version and the card and what functions you need support, it's not generic
[14:39] <dr_willis> UICTamale: and your chipset is?
[14:39] <UICTamale> M8900 firepro
[14:39] <snikker|2> dr_willis, iceroot: i'm under 12.10 (fresh install) i've got 2 disk (1 disk with linux and 2 with windows) if i select windows from grub2 menu i've got this error: "A disk read error has occurred Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restrt"if i disconnect linux disk, windows boot fine
[14:39] <ikonia> UICTamale: I've then explained that the ati website documents the versions and which cards the support, so if you cross-reference that you'll get a good idea
[14:39] <ceva> blah
[14:39] <UICTamale> ikonia: You think I don't know that?
[14:39] <UICTamale> ikonia: I come here looking for personal, relatable advice and experiences
[14:39] <ikonia> UICTamale: is there a reason you've not checked it then ?
[14:39] <ikonia> UICTamale: personal experience will depend on a lot of things
[14:40] <UICTamale> I have checked it
[14:40] <UICTamale> I've used them many times in the past
[14:40] <ikonia> UICTamale: ok, so what versions of the drivers support your card
[14:40] <UICTamale> I've been upgrading ubuntu on laptops since breezy badger
[14:40] <ikonia> UICTamale: ok, so what versions of the drivers support your card
[14:40] <ceva> ...
[14:40] <dr_willis> snikker|2: ive seen some mb chipsets swap disks ariund depending on what one is set to boot.
[14:40] <zteam> Hi
[14:41] <sotiris> hi were are you from
[14:41] <zteam> Anybody can help me with VLC everytime I pause a movie the sound get lost
[14:41] <purvesh> snikker|2, i got some nice article maybe it will help you to solve your issue: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/10/10/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-pc-with-uefi-board-ssd-and-hdd/
[14:41] <dr_willis> snikker|2: windowsboot loader may be looking at the wrong hd. ive not had sych issues
[14:41] <snikker|2> dr_willis: with grub1 all was fine
[14:42] <zteam> sotiris, I'm from seden
[14:42] <sotiris> ειναι κανεις π μιλαει ελληνικα εδω περα εκτος απο εμενα
[14:42] <Pici> !gr
[14:42] <purvesh> zteam, maybe because of less ram it could happened !
[14:42] <snikker|2> dr_willis: uuid of hd is correct
[14:42] <ceva> no one has any advice for methen?
[14:43] <Robbilie> whats your favorite gui for ubuntu? :)
[14:43] <dr_willis> disk read error seems.. weird.
[14:43] <ikonia> !best | Robbilie
[14:43] <zteam> purvesh, Idon't think RAM is the problem, the computer has 4 GB of RAM
[14:43] <purvesh> zteam, ohk...
[14:43] <UICTamale> ikonia: The exact answer is that fglrx drivers don't list support for FirePro cards, and never have
[14:43] <iceroot> snikker|2: maybe the grub entry is trying to boot a windows from the hd where linux is installed
[14:43] <ikonia> UICTamale: ok, so you have your answer then
[14:43] <UICTamale> ikonia: Even when they work
[14:43] <ikonia> UICTamale: they do not support your card
[14:43] <iceroot> snikker|2: and that will end up in a read error
[14:43] <Robbilie> i guess i wont ask a bot for its opinion xD
[14:44] <UICTamale> Geez man, why are you in here?
[14:44] <Robbilie> and i wasnot asking for "best"
[14:44] <JuJuBee> How do I set the open with for an application in unity if the applicatiion is not listed?
[14:44] <ikonia> UICTamale: so your millage with them will be the luck of the draw if there is no official support built in
[14:44] <snikker|2> iceroot: but with the right uuid should find the correct disk...
[14:44] <JuJuBee> I see no way to browse the filesystem  to find it the appropriate app.
[14:44] <ikonia> UICTamale: I wouldn't "depend" on them, I'd consider logging bugs against the problems in the open source ones and pushing to get them resolved
[14:45] <iceroot> snikker|2: yes
[14:45] <iceroot> snikker|2: then i am out of ideas at the moment, sorry
[14:45] <UICTamale> ikonia: Where can I do that?  Ubuntu launchpad?
[14:45] <dr_willis> !bug
[14:45] <snikker|2> iceroot: ok, thank you
[14:45] <ikonia> UICTamale: the open source ones, yes, you can log it in launchpad or depending on where you feel the issue is directly into xorg
[14:46] <moosec> Has anyone been able to get ispconfig3 running in 12.10
[14:46] <ikonia> moosec: just tell us YOUR problem
[14:46] <moosec> I keep getting an error No PHP MySQL functions available. Please ensure that the PHP MySQL module is loaded
[14:47] <dr_willis> !info ispconfig3
[14:47] <ikonia> moosec: have you installed and configured php with mysql support ?
[14:47] <moosec> I have followed the guide oh howtoforge and keep getting this error
[14:47] <e01> ikonia: thanks for the help
[14:47] <moosec> I think so
[14:47] <ceva> Can someone direct me to a channel to get some information on add on applications for unbuntu
[14:47] <ikonia> howtoforge.....that says it all
[14:47] <ikonia> moosec: I wouldn't depend on that guide at all
[14:47] <ikonia> moosec: firstly follow the lamp guide to get php/mysql/apache setup
[14:48] <ikonia> !lamp | moosec
[14:48] <ikonia> moosec: that will give you a good basic platform to try to install it on
[14:48] <moosec> I have done that before
[14:48] <dr_willis> ceva: not sure what you mean by addons
[14:48] <X2_BI> hi guys, one short question, is there a difference between event loops in debug or release version (vs 2008 qt 4.8.3)? Because signals and slots only work in release version -.-
[14:48] <moosec> I will do that again and see if that helps
[14:48] <ceva> im new to ubuntu and I need a good fxp client
[14:48] <moosec> Thanks for the advise
[14:48] <moosec> advice
[14:49] <dr_willis> never heard of fxp.
[14:49] <sotiris> Hmm.can anyone tell me if i can install applications like utorrent in my ubuntu computer?
[14:49] <ikonia> sotiris: sure you can
[14:49] <dr_willis> sotiris: utorrent has a linux port. so yes
[14:50] <dr_willis> sotiris: other torrent clients exist also
[14:50] <sotiris> i download it from the site that i download in windows?
[14:50] <ceva> for windows there is flashfxp.  i need one for ubuntu that allows me to login to 2 servers and xfer data between the servers without having to dl to my pc
[14:50] <ikonia> ceva: you need to see if there is a linux port of it
[14:50] <dr_willis> there are several torrent clients in the repos.
[14:51] <sotiris> thanks a lot :D
[14:51] <sotiris> i mus
[14:51] <sotiris> i havte to go
[14:51] <ceva> ikonia what do you mean
[14:51] <ceva> :/
[14:51] <ikonia> ceva: you need to see if there is a linux version of this application you had in Windows
[14:51] <ikonia> ceva: it's doubtful but worth a look
[14:51] <ceva> i dont need a torrent client
[14:52] <ceva> i checked
[14:52] <ceva> :/
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: I didn't say you did need a torrent client
[14:52] <ceva> someone else did
[14:52] <ceva> think he was talking tome
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: I didn't say you did
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: you are looking fora file transfer client
[14:52] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: I said you need to see if htere is a linux version of the windows application you where using
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: no-one has sad anything about torrents to you,
[14:53] <ceva> dr_willis> there are several torrent clients in the repos.
[14:53] <dr_willis> fxp clients for linux. several google hits...
[14:53] <ceva> thought was to me sorry
[14:53] <ceva> i use transmission
[14:53] <dr_willis> but my pasteing is broke... cant paste the url.
[14:54] <ceva> i tried google but will try harder lol  ty nmuch
[14:54] <dr_willis> http://duncanthrax.net/profxp/
[14:54] <ceva> !
[14:54] <ceva> will check it out :>
[14:54] <ceva> have one more question though
[14:54] <dr_willis> gogled for     linux fxp client     got a dozen hits...
[14:55] <quietschie> hi@all, i've got a problem configuring postfix as satellite. can someone help me please?
[14:55] <ikonia> quietschie: ask the question then
[14:55] <ceva> is it at all possible to get the toolbar moved fromleft to bottom?
[14:55] <dr_willis> apt-cache search fxp      perhaps.
[14:56] <ceva> ok trying now
[14:56] <dr_willis> ceva: unity left side launcher .. not really
[14:56] <ceva> i upgraded to 12.10
[14:57] <ceva> but meh
[14:57] <quietschie> i have a user "user" and an external email-adress<EMAIL_ADDRESS>now all the mails i'm trying to send via "mail -s ..." have the sender<EMAIL_ADDRESS>they should have<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:57] <ikonia> quietschie: thats nothing to do with postfix, that's your mail client
[14:58] <dr_willis> i imagine many ftp clients can do fxp also
[14:59] <quietschie> ikonia, sorry, didn't get that right...if i want to enable my server to send mails i need a smtp server. don't i?
[14:59] <ikonia> quietschie: yes, and postfix is your smtp server and appears to be working fine from what you are saying
[14:59] <bkfitz> Question: is sshd installed by default with ubuntu 12.04 or do i need to install openssh
[14:59] <moosec> ikonia would you think that ISPconfig is a good tool or do you think that there is something better to try and get running
[14:59] <ikonia> bkfitz: normally installed by default
[15:00] <bkfitz> ikonia: do I need to enable it?
[15:00] <ikonia> moosec: I think it's poor, I think all those tools are poor and too generic to be considered a secure platform
[15:00] <ikonia> bkfitz: shouldn't do
[15:00] <enriq> after adding firmware for alteros wifi, booting is froozen. booting freezes "pcmcia_socket: IO port probe 0x3000 0x7fff
[15:00] <moosec> ikonia what do you recommend then?
[15:00] <quietschie> ikonia: but i don't receive the mails, so where is then the problem, if not in my postfix configurtaion?
[15:00] <ikonia> moosec: I recommend not using them
[15:01] <bkfitz> ikonia: how do i figure out what application has ports opened
[15:01] <ikonia> quietschie: you didn't say you didn't get mails, you said it was sending mails but as the wrong user
[15:01] <ikonia> bkfitz: ssh uses port 22
[15:01] <moosec> ikonia so you think just learn the cli is th best way?
[15:01] <bkfitz> ikonia: i know that
[15:01] <ikonia> moosec: what ever you want
[15:01] <JuJuBee> So is there no easy way to create a custom appliication launcher on the unity "bar" or whatever it is called?
[15:02] <Bijan-E_> hi, i have problems with VCDs in ubuntu 12.04. is there any support for it's filesystem? any hint would be appreciated :D
[15:02] <quietschie> ikonia: which doesn't exist @mail-provider.com, and so is dismissed by the mail-provider, i guess
[15:02] <ikonia> quietschie: right, so that's your client sending the wrong envelope
[15:02] <ikonia> quietschie: not postfix
[15:02] <moosec> has anyone else got any advise about what is the best way to manage multiple domains on a server
[15:03] <fego> ikonia: openssh client is shipped by default with ubuntu, but does it include open-ssh server by default?
[15:03] <zykotick9> Bijan-E_: VCDs are like DVDs, you don't typically "mount" them, you "play" them.
[15:03] <ikonia> fego: I think it does, but I'm not %100,
[15:03] <UICTamale> Well, I have some info I could definitely report... my performance goes from nearly unusable to fluid and snappy if I unplug my external monitor
[15:04] <soman> Hi all. Is any analog of windows' chkdsk utilitie in Ubuntu 12.04 and what should I use to check my hard disk if it is not any?
[15:04] <zykotick9> Bijan-E_: if you have mplayer installed, try "mplayer vcd://1" to play the 1st track
[15:04] <Bijan-E_> zykotick9, tried all of the players. i've got input/output errors. media and optic drive are correct
[15:05] <dr_willis> fego: ssh server not on a default dsktop install
[15:05] <zykotick9> Bijan-E_: I/O errors typically, mean problems with the media/disc
[15:05] <fego> dr_willis: yea thats what i suspected
[15:05] <dr_willis> or drive and lasers.
[15:06] <iceroot> fego: sudo apt-get install openssh-server is needed to have the ssh server
[15:06] <iceroot> fego: only the server version has openssh-server as default (imo)
[15:06] <ikonia> iceroot: thank you
[15:06] <Bijan-E_> zykotick9, yes but also may means kernel problem mounting the filesystems [i have windows on the same pc, no problem]. i was introduced to cdfs which meant to do the job but it's not for kervel 3.x anymore
[15:06] <iceroot> ikonia: np
[15:07] <zykotick9> Bijan-E_: sorry, i don't have any further suggestions for ya.  best of luck.  i've never heard of cdfs before...
[15:07] <dathui> i'm using a dualscreen setup, can i turn out mouse sticking between the screens? rather annoying
[15:09] <dr_willis> dathui: theres a setting for it.. somewhere.   edge resistance  perhaps
[15:09] <dathui> dr_willis, found it, "sticky edges"
[15:09] <dathui> thanks anyhow :)
[15:10] <moosec> dathui it could be that you have 3d enabled I had that issue till I moved it to 2d
[15:10] <dathui> moosec, i turned off "sticky edges" and now it's working fine.
[15:12] <moosec> I am running Gnome3 with the edges enabled set at 2d and all works good for me
[15:12] <dr_willis> its a featurr.
[15:15] <n1> the terminal message: "End your description with an empty line or EOF."
[15:15] <n1> ?
[15:16] <adamgolding> I'm new to linux, trying to run Ubuntu on VMWare Player--how can I improve performance in the GUI?  It's attempting various 'effects' like fade ins and so on that are probably part of why it's so slow for me..
[15:17] <fourq> Ok, why is it that gedit saves a different set of preferencces  if I open it from a terminal oppossed to the GUI?
[15:18] <rumpe1> fourq, open how exactly from terminal?
[15:19] <fourq> rumpe1: if I open sudo gedit <some_file>
[15:19] <zykotick9> !gksudo | fourq
[15:19] <rumpe1> fourq, because you use "sudo" and not "gksudo"
[15:19] <fourq> ahh
[15:19] <fourq> can you explain that?
[15:19] <fourq> ahh ubottu ty
[15:20] <fourq> you guys rule
[15:22] <Jisawesome2> Can you create a server that has multiple uses, such as a webserver and a file server
[15:23] <enriq> how do i boot a 12.10 that refuses to boot after firmware install
[15:23] <Robbilie> http://on.fb.me/SqxBgG & http://bit.ly/TI8Rnq
[15:23] <Erik_D> enriq: super grub disk?
[15:24] <Erik_D> enriq: Unless you messed up your BIOS is what you meant, then you're mostly out of luck...
[15:25] <enriq> Erik_D, no no, all worked fine until altheros firmware...
[15:25] <Erik_D> enriq: What's altheros?
[15:25] <enriq> Erik_D, an old wifi card (in my old notebook)
[15:26] <Erik_D> odd...
[15:26] <Erik_D> hmm
[15:26] <Erik_D> enriq: live cds work?
[15:26] <Erik_D> enriq: it boots otherwise?
[15:26] <Erik_D> enriq: can you diable it in BIOS?
[15:26] <Erik_D> *disable
[15:26] <enriq> Erik_D, it freezes at pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket1: cs: IO port probe 0x3000-0x7fff
[15:27] <enriq> I will try live cd
[15:27] <Jisawesome2> Can you create a server that has multiple uses, such as a webserver and a file server
[15:27] <waqs> can anyone recommend some free games
[15:27] <Erik_D> waqs: TF2
[15:27] <Erik_D> unless you mean linux games :P
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> Jisawesome2  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:28] <Eqbal> Hi there, is there any chance to find a tool to generate init.d scripts ? I have already some ruby processes and wanna start them up by putting scripts to init.d directory, is there any way to do that automatically instead of creating the bash file manually ?
[15:28] <fego> Jisawesome2: offcourse you can multiple services on a server
[15:30] <fego> Jisawesome2: sftp comes bundled with ssg server and you may run apache for a web server
[15:30] <fego> ssh*
[15:31] <IR9768> this channels is only ubuntu based?
[15:31] <IR9768> can i ask something about fedora?
[15:31] <IR9768> wheres the fedora channel?
[15:31] <gustav__> There's a #linux channel.
[15:31] <zykotick9> !alis | IR9768
[15:31] <gordonjcp> IR9768: take a guess
[15:31] <Jisawesome2> fego, how is it I go about creating a file server?
[15:31] <Jisawesome2> !FILESERVER
[15:31] <gordonjcp> IR9768: how did you find the Ubuntu channel?
[15:33] <fego> Jisawesome2: there a good thread about that ,http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1895084
[15:33] <alexey_> irc.debian.org
[15:34] <Jisawesome2> Thanks fego
[15:34] <IR9768> anyone knows of a program that can do all that the dev c++ for windows can do in linux
[15:34] <IR9768> ?
[15:34] <IR9768> u dont know how to compile a .cpp in linux
[15:34] <IR9768> how i do that?
[15:34] <fego> IR9768: build-essential is the package,
[15:35] <IR9768> what it is in that package?
[15:35] <ikonia> IR9768: compilers/build libraries/headers
[15:35] <IR9768> k ty
[15:36] <fego> ircnode0: g++ that will help you compiling C++ progs
[15:36] <IR9768> what are the advantages of ubutu over fedora?
[15:36] <ikonia> IR9768: it's personal choice, nothing more
[15:36] <IR9768> k
[15:36] <IR9768> ty
[15:38] <zizi> hellooo
[15:38] <zizi> can someone help me with a tar.gz file?
[15:39] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, dfefine "help"
[15:39] <fego> zizi: what help?
[15:39] <TheLordOfTime> define*
[15:39] <Garret> hi
[15:40] <zizi> i want to make install but during the ./configure i get an error
[15:40] <zizi> can someone to test it?
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, pastebin the error(s)
[15:40] <dathui> where is the bash history stored?
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, note that installing from source (.tar.gz files for example) are not necessarily 100% fully supported here.
[15:41] <dathui> i have a rather long list of commands i want to store in a text file for future use
[15:41] <ThinkT510> zizi: what are you trying to compile?
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> dathui, ~/.bash_history normally
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, and what software are you trying to install?
[15:41] <zykotick9> dathui: ~/.bash_history
[15:41] <stealz> Hi
[15:41] <fego> zizi: installing from tarballs are always messy,instead you can serch the software in software center in your Ubuntu install
[15:41] <zizi> a dymo label printer
[15:41] <dathui> found it, thanks folks
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, are you trying to install drivers?
[15:41] <zizi> there is not a ppa for that jov
[15:42] <stealz> I installed xmonad with Ubuntu 12.04, but for some reason the panel on the left with the icons doesnt show up, only the one on top. anyone has any ideas?
[15:42] <zizi> there is not a ppa for that job*
[15:42] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, is there support out of the box?
[15:42] <fego> zizi: device drivers are not needed a separate install, they are embedded in linux kernel,loaded as required
[15:42] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, testing before installing may be prudent, to see if that's the case of out-of-the-box support.
[15:42] <NewWorld> stealz:  better ask on #xmonad
[15:42] <stealz> NewWorld, I am trying, no answer there either, but thanks
[15:43] <zizi> http://www.dymo-label-printers.co.uk/dymo_sdk_linux.html here is the tar.gz
[15:43] <dr_willis> stealz: the unity panel is a compiz plugin.
[15:44] <dr_willis> stealz: you want to use unity with xmonad?
[15:44] <stealz> dr_willis, yes, and I got it to work on another machine, but I cant access that one because its 600km away
[15:44] <stealz> I got the default panels, but the window tiling from xmonad, worked great
[15:44] <adamgolding> I just installed ubuntu for the first time (v 12.10).  How do I disable Unity and enable a more lightweight gui?  All the instructions I find refer to options that are no longer present in 12.10, apparently
[15:45] <dr_willis> stealz: you may have used unity2d
[15:45] <stealz> dr_willis, I am using unity2d already even on this machine, but the panel wont show :S
[15:45] <dr_willis> adamgolding: just install the other wm or desktop. select it at login screen...
[15:46] <adamgolding> I can't select anything like that at the login screen
[15:46] <adamgolding> I don't see the toolbar they say should be there
[15:46] <zizi> should i paste here what i get?
[15:46] <dr_willis> adamgolding: lubuntu-desktop is nice
[15:46] <jiffe98> are there any ubuntu packages in the repositories that include the mysql ndb engine?
[15:46] <[snake]> adamgolding, you have to install something first. like xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, fluxbox, kde
[15:46] <stealz> I guess I will try redoing the xmonad.hs from scratch, maybe that helps
[15:46] <[snake]> kde is not lightweight though
[15:47] <dr_willis> adamgolding: what did you install?
[15:47] <adamgolding> dr_willis: nothing, this is a fresh install
[15:47] <adamgolding> it's running in vmware player, and I installed the vmware tools, that's all
[15:47] <Vooch> What's the best destop environment to use on ubuntu?  KDE?
[15:47] <adamgolding> ubuntu 12.10 desktop amd64
[15:47] <ikonia> !best | Vooch
[15:47] <dr_willis> adamgolding:  so install lubuntu-desktop perhaps...
[15:47] <Sigfrid91> \server #darth-fansub@recycled
[15:47] <zykotick9> Vooch: the one you like best
[15:48] <[snake]> adamgolding, i'm using something that looks like the old gnome... i forget what it's called though
[15:48] <Vooch> thanks for the tips
[15:48] <adamgolding> dr_willis: how?  I'm totally new to linux here
[15:48] <dr_willis> !manual | adamgolding
[15:49] <chisholm> Vooch: I'm not a big fan of the way the ubuntu gnome desktop has been going, I'm finding KDE works quite well
[15:49] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop      adamgolding
[15:49] <dr_willis> is one way
[15:55] <neodragon> OK I know this is a strange request, but I already have Gentoo with Grub1 installed on my laptop and I am installing Ubuntu on a seperate partition, what would I have to add to the grub menu.list in order to boot Ubuntu from the Gentoo bootloader?
[15:56] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, let grub autoupdate?
[15:56] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, there should be a command to force grub  to update and ndetect other OSes.
[15:56] <dr_willis> chain loading grub2 on the ubuntu partion may be the way to go neodragon
[15:58] <neodragon> dr_willis: I was thinking chainloading would be the way to go, what would I put in the grub menu.list to do that
[15:58] <dr_willis> no idea. not used grub1 in years
[15:59] <dr_willis> grub1 docs should show examples
[15:59] <bkfitz> ikonia: so how can i confirm that sshd is installed...
[16:00] <Mandalord> hi, i have a speaker - microphone namely Chat50 ClearOne connected to my laptop using usb. The device is recognised, i used alsamixer to unmute it, but i cannot get it record my voice. Can anyone help me? I'm using Lubuntu 12.10.
[16:00] <ikonia> bkfitz: check in the package manager
[16:00] <ikonia> bkfitz: the package is openssh-server
[16:00] <bkfitz> ikonia: ok thx
[16:01] <neodragon> I found it in the grub documentation
[16:01] <cowsquad> hey folk. I need help. I am trying to boot ubuntu 12.04 and Solaris 11. But I cant find out how to do it. ubuntu grub doesnt show solaris 11. any help?
[16:02] <cowsquad> What a pain in the butt.!!!!
[16:02] <bkfitz> ikonia: apparently it's not installed by default...
[16:02] <bkfitz> ikonia: huh
[16:03] <ikonia> bkfitz: ok, and ?
[16:04] <TheLordOfTime> bkfitz, openssh-server isnt supposed to be installed by default afaik, so what's the problem here?
[16:04] <TheLordOfTime> s/here//
[16:05] <pwnsauce_> hi
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> bkfitz, once you install openssh-server sshd'll run
[16:05] <Maphrox> Hello.
[16:06] <bkfitz> TheLordOfTime: ok... i wasn't sure and didn't want to install opensshd if some other ssh daemon was already installed
[16:06] <simplew> USB-CREATOR-KDE doesnt work properlly, its impossible to add an .iso to burn, in cli appears: QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> bkfitz, just install openssh-server, it'll install the relevant packages.
[16:06] <pwnsauce_> I installed Hybryde evolution the other day.. And I can't get sound to work.. Could I get some assistance?
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, sounds like a bug.
[16:06] <Maphrox> I'm having this issue where the terminal and most things that don't have their own text rendering don't render text.
[16:07] <bkfitz> TheLordOfTime: working great now
[16:07] <Maphrox> Instead, I get the white squares that usually show up when you don't have fonts installed.
[16:07] <simplew> TheLordOfTime: can you try reproduce?
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, i'm not on KDE, so no.  Nor am I on an Ubuntu system at this moment.  that does look like a bug, or something's broken, though.  i'm not one to debug that though.
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, remember, not everyone here runs every package (if you're using the KDE version, as a Kubuntu user to confirm)
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> (or file a bug)
[16:08] <Mandalord> hi, i have a speaker - microphone namely Chat50 ClearOne connected to my laptop using usb. The device is recognised, i used alsamixer to unmute it, but i cannot get it record my voice. Can anyone help me? I'm using Lubuntu 12.10.
[16:11] <simplew> TheLordOfTime: usb-creator-kde onnly requires this ->  Depends: python2.7, python (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2), python (<< 2.8), usb-creator-common (= 0.2.40ubuntu1), python-kde4, python-qt4-dbus
[16:11] <simplew> TheLordOfTime: i dont see there any kde specific package
[16:12] <[snake]> adamgolding, I finally found it!!
[16:12] <[snake]> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-classic-gnome-desktop-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise.html
[16:12] <adamgolding> oh, cool
[16:12] <[snake]> adamgolding, it's nice, I love using it.
[16:12] <adamgolding> at this point I'm downloading the lubuntu iso
[16:12] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, python-kde4  <-- that pulls in KDE runtime stuff, and qt4 stuff.
[16:12] <simplew> TheLordOfTime: and the same happens in USB-CREATOR-GTK since its the same
[16:13] <[snake]> adamgolding, ... well. If you don't like it. I'm always called [snake] on here. but I might not be on. maybe save the link just in case.
[16:13] <alexfpms_> Hi, i try to make an update and it hangs on: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic
[16:13] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, if its reproducable in all of them, then you hsould still file a bug about it.  that sounds like something is broken in the package, but again i can't test or confirm since i'm not on Ubuntu right now.
[16:13] <alexfpms_> it never finishes; i'm on ubuntu 12.10. how to fix it ?
[16:13] <adamgolding> [snake]:  yeah I bookmarked it
[16:13] <adamgolding> but ubuntu was already so surprisingly slow in VMWare I decided to go for an entirely lightweight version of ubuntu
[16:14] <[snake]> adamgolding, well in that case... lxde is great!
[16:15] <cihhan> Hi all! I have Ubuntu on both host and VM. But their dates are different even though ntp is installed. When I say ntpdate, I get: 6 Nov 16:13:30 ntpdate[17834]: no servers can be used, exiting  Any suggestions?
[16:15] <jhutchins_wk> I can't make heads or tails of the new sudoers manpage.  I need a single user or group to have permission on a specific command with no password.
[16:16] <jhutchins_wk> All the damn examples use ALL and don't say which ALL means what.
[16:17] <fego> !sudo | jhutchins_wk
[16:18] <fego> jhutchins_wk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers     might be a good read
[16:18] <jhutchins_wk> fego: How much you want to bet there isn't one example in there that doesn't use ALL?
[16:19] <jhutchins_wk> Yep, nothing but all.
[16:21] <alexfpms_> i try to make an update and it hangs on: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic ...  it never finishes; i'm on ubuntu 12.10. how to fix it ?
[16:21] <satyam> hi to all
[16:22] <satyam> i install
[16:22] <satyam>  ubuntu 12.10
[16:22] <Gosy> !ssh
[16:23] <satyam> how to identify fat32 in ubuntu 12.10
[16:23] <fego> jhutchins_wk: have you tried something like //username ALL= NOPASSWD: command
[16:23] <batee> Hi all, Could you please suggest me a place to download the source code of the "Seccomp Filter"?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> satyam, sudo blkid
[16:24] <satyam> how to install graphic card driver in 12.10
[16:25] <BluesKaj> satyam, which graphics card?
[16:25] <satyam> blueskaj ,nividia optimus
[16:26] <BluesKaj> satyam, install bumblebee
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !optimus
[16:27] <satyam> Blueskaj, i actually  have 750 gb harddisk
[16:27] <jhutchins_wk> fego: What's the // for?
[16:27] <satyam> i partions 6
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !bumblbee
[16:27] <fego> jhutchins_wk: just to indicate that the command starts :)
[16:28] <BluesKaj> !bumblebee
[16:28] <TheLordOfTime> BluesKaj, no dice, those factoids don't exist
[16:28] <TheLordOfTime> BluesKaj, why not suggest factoids :P
[16:28] <palasso> I created a markings file for Synaptic and noticed that if I open it, it won't mark packages that have a blank space before the package name on the text file. Is this normal?
[16:28] <jhutchins_wk> fego: syntax error
[16:28] <alexfpms> i can't update my system; it hangs on update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic ... How to fix it ?
[16:29] <jhutchins_wk> fego: Ok, works without the //
[16:30] <BluesKaj> TheLordOfTime, suggest factoids ??
[16:30] <jhutchins_wk> fego: Except it prompts for password.
[16:30] <fego> jhutchins_wk: you should exclude //
[16:30] <crypticmofo> anyone good with the dd command .. im trying to put a iso onto a usb drive .. im wondering do i need the bs command
[16:31] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, I think I got it.  The command was /sbin/sysctl -w "net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=0".  It works if I remove the quoted arguments.
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> jhutchins_wk, you want to exclude certain commands from needing a sudo password?
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> oops wrong person
[16:32] <fego> jhutchins_wk: are you running any script as a command in the above example?
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> crypticmofo, are you trying to put an Ubuntu ISO onto a USB?
[16:33] <alexfpms> How can i fix update-initramfs ???
[16:37] <fego> jhutchins_wk: sorry i missed out your unhighlighted line above :D
[16:40] <hanning> hi
[16:40] <dinamizador> hola
[16:40] <hanning> is this a correct syntax for an arithmetic if statement?-> $lastrun < ('date +%s' + 10)
[16:40] <jhutchins_wk> TheLordOfTime: Yeah, need to let a user/group use sysctl to turn window scaling on and off.
[16:41] <jhutchins_wk> TheLordOfTime: I can't seem to include the arguments to sysctl in the sudo specification
[16:42] <BEPC> halo
[16:42] <john_doe_jr> when I'm attempting to launch a program…I'm getting the following error message, 'error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'…any body know why?
[16:42] <jaha> Any ideas on why I lost dns resolution all of a sudden on a 10.04 box using network manager in it's default config
[16:43] <jaha> it worked when i first set it up, now.. nothing… cant reach google but i can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:46] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr: what program?
[16:47] <alexfpms> my update-initramfs hangs on Adding module /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/udl/udl.ko ... how can i fix it ?
[16:47] <dr_willis> !find libX11.so
[16:47] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis: fullrecall-linux.bin
[16:47] <fego> hanning: let "lastrun=`date '+%s'` + 10" maybe
[16:48] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  my guess would be it was compiled to use that specific  version and dosent like a newer version of the lib
[16:48] <hanning> looks like that is going to set the var, i just want to compare it inside an if statement
[16:48] <john_doe_jr> the !find http://libX11.so/ is not working on my computer
[16:48] <dr_willis> !find info livx11-6
[16:48] <dr_willis> !find info libx11-6
[16:49] <dr_willis> !info libx11-6
[16:49] <fego> hanning: ((`date '+%s'` + 10)) ?
[16:49] <dr_willis>   the ! commands are bot triggers for here on irc
[16:49] <hanning> hm
[16:50] <lastleo85> folks, how can i open applications via command line
[16:50] <fego> hanning: can you check something like [ $lastrun -le ((`date '+%s'` + 10)) ]
[16:50] <dr_willis> the command  'locate libX11.so' hsould find the file on your system
[16:51] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  a specific app you mean?
[16:51] <lastleo85> any application dr_willis if you can mention the synta
[16:51] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  just type the name of the executablr
[16:51] <dr_willis> ie:  'gedit' or 'gno,e-terminal'
[16:52] <lastleo85> dr_willis thats it?
[16:52] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  errr.. what more would you expect? ;)
[16:52] <dr_willis> some menu items may not have the same name as the executable.
[16:53] <lastleo85> dr_willis alright, let me try
[16:54] <lastleo85> dr_willis alright, suppose if i wanna open Thunderbird
[16:54] <dr_willis> i dont know the binary name for thunderbird
[16:54] <lastleo85> dr_willis alright, what command will i type?
[16:54] <dr_willis> it may be 'thunderbird'
[16:55] <alexfpms> is somebody can help me please, my update-initramfs hangs on: Adding module /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/udl/udl.ko ... how can i fix it ?
[16:55] <dr_willis> a look at the Thunderbird.desktop' file may show exactly how its being launched
[16:55] <lastleo85> dr_willis alright, thanks!
[16:58] <gaetano_> #blender
[16:59] <pat_ff> hello, i've got a little problem with xubuntu. On my desktop are 2 shortcuts of the same partition of the hdd. How can i delete 1??
[17:00] <Jayflux> hey guys, bit of a noob at this. mount --bind does just what I want, but removes on restart. How can i have that but working when i reboot too?
[17:00] <gaetano_> #blender
[17:01] <akis> although i can run an executable file click on it, if i make a new item in my xubuntu panel this program doesn't start and gives me error:finding bound package/error:initialising projector. why? how can i make it start form my panel button?
[17:01] <dr_willis> Jayflux:  make an entry for it in /etc/fstab is one way
[17:01] <klausl> Hello!
[17:01] <klausl> I have got installation problems with ubuntu.
[17:02] <dr_willis> Jayflux:  why are you using the mount bind featurs anyway/
[17:02] <Jayflux> because my users are in a chrooted enviroment and sym links don't work dr_willis
[17:04] <dr_willis> not sure what the syntax for a mount bind, would be in fstab. alternative way would be putting the ocmmand in rc.local
[17:05] <lastleo85> how can i share my screen to mac?
[17:05] <compdoc> a vnc client
[17:05] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  vnc is one way.
[17:05] <akis> i think that this program is a java one? does this help to solve my issue?
[17:05] <lastleo85> and at the same time avoid lag dr_willis
[17:06] <dr_willis> avoid lag = use x forwarding with ssh to show a  single app on the mac desktop. not the whole ubuntu desktop
[17:06] <dr_willis> theres also freenx, and rdp
[17:07] <cairne> anyone firmiliar with lubuntu?
[17:07] <Mrokii> Hello. That might be a Firefox-specific question, but I'm not sure. For some time now whenever I doubleclick links (to mark them for copying) a small context-menu pops open showing these entries: "Open With Firefox", "Open with Opera", "Send Url", "Open with Mozilla". I think I saw it in other apps than Firefox but I'm not sure. Does anybody know where this is coming from? I can't remember installing an
[17:07] <Mrokii> extension that does something like that. Plus, it wouldn't make sense for a Firefox-extension to show an entry to open a url with the browser the url was marked in...
[17:07] <dr_willis> cairne:  its very popular.. so just ask the question
[17:08] <cairne> how come whenever I am asked to upgrade, usually a kernal upgrade, it breaks grub and I have to do the boot repair each time with the live cd
[17:09] <nemik> is there some way to list currently connected printers from the command line?
[17:09] <cairne> not so much of an annoyance for me, but I want to set up lubuntu on a friends computer to breather new life into it and I know they will not be able to handle fixing it each time
[17:09] <dr_willis> nemik:  theres various lp* commands
[17:09] <dr_willis> cairne:  i dont have that issue on lubuntu here
[17:10] <dr_willis> cairne:  what specifically breaks with grub?
[17:10] <cairne> dr_willis: it just will boot into grub recovery, and only way to get into lubuntu or windows is using the live cd again and repairing the boot
[17:10] <dr_willis> it just may be a quirk/issue on your machine. not theirs
[17:11] <cairne> well thats good to know, it is a fairly bad laptop hence having to use lubuntu not regular ubuntu on it
[17:11] <whiskey_> ciao a tutti
[17:11] <whiskey_> qualche italiano?
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> !it
[17:11] <lastleo85> freeNX works on MAC? dr_willis
[17:11] <nemik> dr_willis: ah thanks, i'll look into those.
[17:11] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  no idea. i wont touch a mac
[17:12] <nemik> btw dr_willis what method would you recommend for printing from the command line, like a large full-sized JPG. lpr?
[17:12] <becom33> Im having this few dual screen . im having twin screen and my VGA is nVidia . but when I turn on full screen and and I do something on the other screen it comes back to the normal screen
[17:12] <lastleo85> same here but i got it as GIFT  dr_willis
[17:12] <becom33> new dual *
[17:13] <usuario> qien es flod bot?
[17:13] <dr_willis> nemik:  not needed to do somthing like that in years. so no idea
[17:13] <usuario> me llama la atencion siempre esta aki
[17:13] <nemik> dr_willis: np, seems lp will do that fine
[17:14] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[17:14] <dr_willis> becom33:  its a little confuseing what you said.
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:15] <dr_willis> with some apps on nvidia twinview if i fullscreen firefor/flash and click on the other desktop it will unfullscreen.. due to how flash is written
[17:15] <dr_willis> other apps might fullscreen to the wrong  monitor. again i recall firefox doing this
[17:16] <dr_willis> but chromium-browser did not
[17:16] <becom33> dr_willis, Im having two screens . but when I put on screen on full screen . for a example movie . and when I start to do somthing on the other screen the full screen player turns back to normal size
[17:16] <mregg1> Hi all -- is there a way to duplicate a python install w/ all its dependencies from one machine to another? (I realize this sounds a little wierd...)
[17:16] <dr_willis> becom33:  what movie player?
[17:16] <nemik> mregg1: look into virtual-env for python
[17:17] <becom33> dr_willis, well VLC . but its not just vlc . also flash player and vmware full screen also exits
[17:17] <dr_willis> vlc worked fine for me last i tried it with twinview.
[17:18] <zivester> has anyone ever seen a cursor appear but the login prompt never appear? like the mouse moves but nothing is going on... Ctrl+F1-6 allow me to switch to other ttys fine, but where is the login?
[17:18] <zivester> and by cursor, I mean the arrow
[17:18] <dr_willis> zivester:  if the login manager hung, that would look somthing like that.
[17:18] <becom33> dr_willis, so why do u think am I having that problem :/
[17:19] <dr_willis> zivester:  try 'sudo service lightdm stop' then 'startx' at the conosle
[17:19] <zivester> it happens 50% of the time... the other 50% it works fine... is there anyway to figure out what is going on? this is a fresh install of 12.10
[17:19] <zivester> on xubuntu, if that matters
[17:19] <dr_willis> becom33:  some apps dont play nicely with multimonitors/twinview/xinerams
[17:19] <g0bl1n> I'm trying to add a printer but the Add button is disabled. Inserting an address, can't seem to advance. Any hints ?
[17:20] <g0bl1n> network printer
[17:20] <becom33> dr_willis, what I notised is my side menu thing . the dork thing comes to the front on when I do somthing on the other screen
[17:20] <dr_willis> becom33:  ive only noticed it with flash videos (even on windows) and a few apps.
[17:20] <dr_willis> g0bl1n:  try the cups web interface perhaps.  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631
[17:21] <g0bl1n> good one dr_willis ;-)
[17:22] <dr_willis> i never use the gui config tools for cups ;)
[17:22] <wbf> dr_ you also helped me I was looking for cups too :D
[17:22] <klausl> Hello!
[17:22] <klausl> Is here anyone?
[17:22] <dr_willis> cups ia amazeing. ;)
[17:23] <klausl> dr_willis: Hello!#
[17:23] <dr_willis> klausl:  what if 1000 people say no. ;)
[17:23] <klausl> dr_willis:Please help me!
[17:23] <dr_willis> !ask
[17:23] <wbf> klausl what's your problem?
[17:23] <klausl> ubottu: Are you a supporter?
[17:24] <klausl> wbf: Are you a supporter?
[17:24] <klausl> wbf: Because I will need a supporter.
[17:24] <dr_willis> klausl:  state the question.......
[17:24] <klausl> I can`t install Ubuntu.
[17:24] <klausl> The Installation fails.
[17:24] <klausl> error.
[17:24] <wbf> With what error?
[17:25] <klausl> wbf: I can`t install it.
[17:25] <wbf> It says you cant?
[17:25] <klausl> wbf: I mean I can`t boot.
[17:26] <wbf> Oh
[17:26] <klausl> wbf: I can`t  boot from my Hard drive.
[17:26] <klausl> wbf: It says.
[17:26] <wbf> Really?
[17:26] <dr_willis> cant boot the cd? usb? dvd? cant boot after you install?
[17:26] <wbf> Is this a fresh install or a non-fresh install?
[17:26] <klausl> wbf: Windows 7 is on.
[17:27] <klausl> wbf: On the c hard drive.
[17:27] <cuddylier> Why when I go to myaddress/phpmyadmin does it say the page is not found? http://survival.spartanmc.net/phpmyadmin and it says it's not found, there is nothing about phpmyadmin in my www folder but it is installed correctly, what have I done wrong?
[17:28] <klausl> wbf: Then I install the bootloader from the CD.
[17:28] <wbf> klausl are you trying to install alongside or Over?
[17:28] <Mrokii> Is there a way to set the Gnome Terminal window-title automatically to the app currently running? For example, make it show "weechat" as the title, as soon as I start it?
[17:29] <klausl> wbf: As second os
[17:29] <crackerjackz> does anyone here know anything about truecrypt?
[17:29] <klausl> wbf: On my another hard drive.
[17:29] <wbf> oh klaus as second os?
[17:29] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  the  bash prompt i recall had some ways to do that. but i think it does set the title to weechat here... not on my pc right now so cant check
[17:29] <klausl> wbf: Yes.
[17:29] <dnewkirk> Yes, should be a bash command
[17:29] <clemi> hi guys do you know how to open par2?
[17:30] <dr_willis> clemi:  ived used winrar in wine befor for unusual rar formats.
[17:30] <klausl> wbf: I tried to install it with Sun Virtual Box.
[17:30] <siavoshkc> i do
[17:30] <Mrokii> dr_willis: Thanks, maybe I can find something in regards to the Bash-prompt. Here, all my terminal windows just show "terminal" which is annoying.
[17:30] <wbf> klausl can you boot windows 7?
[17:30] <crackerjackz> should i encrypt the filesystem before or after i install ubuntu?
[17:30] <crackerjackz> i want to encrypt the entire filesystem with 256 bit AES encryption
[17:30] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  i tend to use terminator also. so it may be a different default setting then gnome-shell
[17:30] <clemi> use truecrypt
[17:31] <klausl> wbf: Yes.
[17:31] <clemi> is there something else than winrar
[17:31] <crackerjackz> clemi: 7zip
[17:31] <clemi> klaus sprichst deutsch
[17:31] <clemi> yes have installed it
[17:32] <crackerjackz> clemi: what is it you are trying to accomplish?
[17:32] <abdostar> Guys, I am running ubuntu 12.10, after a system update, I lost wireless connection(I did not tried wired connection) any help
[17:32] <klausl> clemi: Ja!
[17:32] <klausl> clemi!
[17:32] <klausl> Ja!
[17:32] <clemi> crackerjackz i use usenet
[17:32] <klausl> Ich spreche deutsch!!!!!!!!!
[17:32] <wbf> klausl: virtualbox isn't that good of hardware emu anyway... lemme show you how to do it so that ubuntu can boot
[17:32] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I don't use terminator. And I just realised that it may not even work as I want to as I usually start weechat from within "screen", so that may be the title the window will be set to. I'll have to try.
[17:33] <wbf> klausl: have you burnt an install disk yet?
[17:33] <klausl> wbf: Yes!
[17:33] <crackerjackz> clemi: so should i setup truecrypt before or after i install ubuntu?
[17:33] <crackerjackz> i want to encrypt the entire filesystem
[17:33] <SuperDefenderX> Anyone know when Steam for Linux will be released? I heard it was supposed to be released today.
[17:33] <Mrokii> klausl: Notfalls könntest du auch auf #ubuntu-de fragen, falls du hier nicht weiterkommst.
[17:33] <dnewkirk> crackerjackz: you can encrypt after, which may be easier since it will adjuct the boot partition.
[17:33] <Mrokii> SuperDefenderX: The rumour says today.
[17:34] <wbf> klausl: ok then boot your pc off the disk not just virtualbox, I'll tell you how.
[17:34] <dr_willis> Mrokii: that may be why i recall it working by default that way. i dont use screen inside gnome-terminal
[17:34] <klausl> wbf: Moment!
[17:34] <klausl> wbf: I am telling you again.
[17:34] <clemi> doesnt matter just encrypts everything
[17:34] <wbf> klausl: you want only virtualbox?
[17:34] <klausl> wbf: No!
[17:34] <crackerjackz> dnewkirk: should i do anything special or anything i should keep in mind when im creating my partitions?
[17:35] <clemi> cracker may i pm you?
[17:35] <abdostar> Anyone!?, I am running ubuntu 12.10, after a system update, I lost wireless connection(I did not tried wired connection) any help
[17:35] <crackerjackz> clemi: sure
[17:35] <dnewkirk> crackerjackz: No, you should be fine. I'm assuming that you'll encrypt the entire drive, which should be pretty straightforward, if not taking some time. Oh, and make a backup beforehand ;).
[17:36] <pat_ff> klaus: seh ich das richtig, dass du ubuntu neben win7 installiert hast und jetzt bootet es nicht?
[17:36] <wbf> klausl: so you basically want it to really boot off ubuntu and windows 7 as well? 2 hard drives? easy :D all you have to do is go into your pc's BIOS, then change the boot order so cd is first then boot off the cd then install ubuntu alongside windows 7 but on the other drive, and make it boot off windows 7 drive first after so that grub comes up and you have a choice
[17:36] <Mrokii> abdostar: Don't know if that helps, but did you try reinstalling network-manager?
[17:36] <crackerjackz> dnewkirk: and no one will be able to mount the file system or boot the OS with out the key right?
[17:37] <wbf> klausl: also this article might help :D http://askubuntu.com/questions/193807/installing-ubuntu-on-one-of-two-hard-drives
[17:37] <abdostar> Mrokii: no, how can I do that?
[17:37] <exan> hey guys. is anyone able to help with a quick script question? very basic
[17:38] <Mrokii> abdostar: I think you can chose the live-CD as a source as well, from aptitude, so you should (hopefully) be able to reinstall the network-manager.
[17:38] <clemi> can someone help me with my par2 problem ?
[17:38] <dr_willis> !rar
[17:39] <dr_willis> the rar tools may handle pars also
[17:39] <dnewkirk> crackerjackz: Yes. I mispoke when I said that it will adjust the boot partition (sorry, coffee hasn't kicked in). I meant to say that it will install it's own boot loader on the first track of the drive. It has a bootloader that will appear first, requiring a password before anything else. Apart from someone taking the drive out of the machine and running a hack tool (or having a backdoor), you're ok.
[17:39] <exan> can anyone tell me how to make this work, i wish to loop a simple menu.
[17:39] <exan> while [ $choice ~= "x" or "X" ]
[17:39] <clemi> thx
[17:39] <b0ot> Are there any tablets that are sold with ubuntu (or other linux distros) natively on them
[17:39] <Mrokii> abdostar: Also, maybe the package is still in the cache if you haven't emptied that or have Synaptic configured to keep it.
[17:39] <pat_ff> wbf?
[17:39] <exan> rather, while [ $choice != "x" or "X" ]
[17:40] <crackerjackz> dnewkirk: i want to make it impossible for someone to view the contents of the drive
[17:40] <dr_willis> b0ot: nit that ive heard of.... yet
[17:40] <sotiris> hi
[17:40] <dr_willis> b0ot: there was a kde tablet rumors a few months back.
[17:41] <Mrokii> SuperDefenderX: http://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?threads/steam-for-linux-to-go-live-today.1139/ There's a time mentioned here, though I'm not sure what time zone that is atm. :)
[17:41] <b0ot> dr_willis, how depressing there isn't one availabe yet
[17:41] <DJones> b0ot: There's no Ubuntu tablets, although Nexus 7 (and every other Android tablet) is linux and can have Ubuntu installed
[17:41] <dr_willis> b0ot: ask in #ubuntu-arm
[17:42] <graft> hey all, i have a smb share mounted via cifs, and whenever i change my network connection or something it hangs if i type df or something like that... how do i make this better?
[17:42] <b0ot> DJones, but then you need to do hardware modifications etc
[17:42] <dr_willis> ubuntu in a vm on android can work
[17:42] <sotiris> boot from my ubuntu what i must to do to listen the voice of video
[17:42] <b0ot> DJones, sorry not hardware mods, but manually reload the OS.
[17:43] <sotiris> because i am new
[17:43] <dnewkirk> crackerjackz: the contents of the drive are impossible to interpret without the key. Encryption is the highest form of security that one can have apart from physical security of the machine. Once the machine is running, then you can get hacked and have information stolen of course, but the encryption protects the contents of a drive were your machine stolen.
[17:43] <gordonjcp> crackerjackz: if you're going to encrypt your homedir, make sure you've got plenty of drives to back up onto
[17:44] <gordonjcp> crackerjackz: you should do a full backup once a day
[17:44] <Pici> !floodbots | sotiris
[17:44] <dr_willis> and put the passphrase on a stickynote on the mmonitor...    :)
[17:45] <sotiris> hi
[17:45] <sotiris> there someone from greece
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !gr
[17:46] <lizardbrain> trying to add teamviewer7 to startup nothing works
[17:46] <lizardbrain> it needs to run as root
[17:46] <gustav__> Hey fellas. How do I set a custom WM w in lightdm?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> gustav__  lightdm lets you select DE's, not WM's
[17:47] <dr_willis> gustav__: each session has a whatever.desktop file. look at   ubuntu.desktop  for example
[17:48] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: it shouldn't need to run as root...
[17:48] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp it does
[17:48] <dr_willis> locate ubuntu.desktop
[17:48] <gustav__> dr_willis: Thx.
[17:48] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-team-viewer-version-7-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin.html
[17:48] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: ^ that doesn't look like it needs to be run as root
[17:48] <lizardbrain> because it doesn't worked
[17:48] <gustav__> MonkeyDust: Difference is not always so clear.
[17:48] <dr_willis> webupd8 or omgubuntu had a guide on custom sessions
[17:48] <lizardbrain> tried it yesterday
[17:49] <lizardbrain> and when running teamviewer from command line you have to sudo or it fails with permission denied
[17:49] <nemik> dr_willis: lpstat lists printers but if one is connected over USB, if i disconnect it, it's still fine to lpstat. how could i detect if it's actually connected or not?
[17:49] <dr_willis> you should use gksudo for gui apps.
[17:49] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: it probably depends on what it's actually failing on, then
[17:50] <dr_willis> nemik: not sure. mine are all networked these days.
[17:50] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp read comments on page you linked
[17:50] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: you could use strace to see where it actually gets the permission denied error, and see if you can tweak its permissions
[17:50] <amogorkon_> that might be the wrong channel for that question, but i try anyway: is there a way to copy the text from an openoffice document into a simple txt, just losing all formating?
[17:50] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: I have neither the time nor inclination
[17:50] <sevenforall> is there a way to use the terminal to move all the contents of a folder to its parent folder?
[17:50] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: I don't use teamviewer and I don't really see the point of it
[17:51] <cuddylier> Why when I go to myaddress/phpmyadmin does it say the page is not found? http://survival.spartanmc.net/phpmyadmin and it says it's not found, there is nothing about phpmyadmin in my www folder but it is installed correctly, what have I done wrong?
[17:51] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp do you know of something better?
[17:51] <sevenforall> gordonjcp: The point of TeamViewer...?
[17:51] <dr_willis> lizardbrain:  how were you auto running it?
[17:51] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: for what?
[17:51] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: I mean, what exactly are you trying to solve?
[17:51] <sevenforall> cuddylier: I'll solve this one for you
[17:51] <bkfitz> Anyone here familiar with Nagios
[17:51] <lizardbrain> dr_willis i tried sleep 30 && /usr/bin/teamviewer7 in /etc/rc.local and tried .config/autostart
[17:51] <crackerjackz> dnewkirk: gordonjcp ty
[17:52] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp trying to remote desktop a machine behind a firewall
[17:52] <lizardbrain> i mean i could install openvpn and just standard lan remote desktop software, if you know of something decent
[17:52] <dr_willis> lizardbrain: its a gui app so rc.local wiuld never work.....
[17:52] <lizardbrain> dr_willis thats what i thought but someone here told me to try it
[17:53] <dr_willis> lizardbrain: what did you do exactly in what autostart dir?
[17:53] <lizardbrain> dr_willis i used the gui
[17:53] <dr_willis> i recall telling you rc.local wont work. ;-)
[17:53] <lizardbrain> yeah then someone else told me it would
[17:53] <lizardbrain> who knows in here lol
[17:53] <dr_willis> lizardbrain: what gui? details please.
[17:54] <lizardbrain> autostart manager
[17:54] <nemik> just in case anyone else needs it, this works: lpinfo -v | grep -ir "direct usb" it'll return a 0 if found and 1 otherwise
[17:55] <dr_willis> make a script to launch it.. see if that works.. then put the script in the autostart dir.
[17:55] <lizardbrain> tried that too
[17:55] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: if it's getting permission denied errors, there will be a specific resource it cannot get at
[17:56] <dr_willis> example script..   3 lines...   #!/bin/bash     sleep 30    gksudo theapp
[17:56] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: run it with strace and see where it fails.  This will be pretty scary and technical.
[17:56] <ScotG> G2 you there?
[17:56] <ScotG2> yeah ScotG, IM me.
[17:56] <lizardbrain> actually
[17:56] <lizardbrain> teamviewer wont run unless a user is logged in
[17:56] <lizardbrain> and i can't leave the computer open
[17:56] <lizardbrain> so can't use it
[17:57] <lizardbrain> what else is there
[17:57] <sotiris> where are you from
[17:57] <Pici> sotiris: This is a support channel, if you're just looking to chat, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:57] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: it depends what you're trying to do
[17:57] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: you could try tunneling X over SSH
[17:57] <lizardbrain> yeah that was the plan yesterday boss didnt go for it
[17:58] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: in any case, if you're trying to use GUI apps remotely, chances are you're Doing It Wrong
[17:59] <ScotG> Does anyone know how to send files on this program?
[17:59] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: what *exactly* is the problem you're trying to solve with this?
[17:59] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp using vmware workstation remotely
[17:59] <lizardbrain> and i know im doing it wrong
[17:59] <dr_willis> ScotG2: most irc clients have a dcc feature
[17:59] <lizardbrain> i am doing what i am being paid and told
[18:00] <ScotG> What's that doc?
[18:00] <lizardbrain> so right or wrong is irrelevant
[18:00] <dr_willis> vmware has a remote  client
[18:00] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: well, you'll either have to spend money or leave the machine logged in
[18:00] <dr_willis> ScotG2: a way to send files
[18:00] <lizardbrain> spending money is not a problem
[18:00] <lizardbrain> in fact i would prefer to offload this to someone else
[18:01] <ScotG> That's what I'm trying to do.
[18:01] <sotiris> there someone here to speak greek
[18:01] <dr_willis> ScotG2: dropbox or other ways are easier...
[18:01] <ScotG> on the IM window, I clicked the send file button.
[18:02] <dr_willis> ScotG2: dcc sending of files can be.... annoying.
[18:02] <dr_willis> im window? what client?
[18:03] <ScotG> I'm using the Gaim program.
[18:03] <dr_willis> you may want to use a better irc client.
[18:04] <ScotG> can I send you something and you let me know if it worked dr?
[18:04] <dr_willis> nope. im on my phone.
[18:04] <ScotG> ok
[18:05] <ScotG> after my receiver accepts, the file transfer window opens but nothing happens.
[18:06] <dr_willis> the dcc sending can get stopped by routers and firewalls.
[18:07] <ScotG> ok
[18:08] <Linkandzelda> wow why is Skype for linux so poor
[18:09] <sevenforall> Linkandzelda: In what way? Works quite decently over here
[18:09] <doomlord> small userbase
[18:09] <dr_willis> Linkandzelda: its owned by Microsoft
[18:09] <OerHeks> Linkandzelda, works fine here.
[18:09] <lastleo85> freeNX works on MAC? dr_willis
[18:09] <Erik_D> Linkandzelda: it works fine for me
[18:10] <Linkandzelda> it's just a bit awkward to use, notifications are not integrated, it doesnt have any "real" menus, just an indicator icon. part from that it works but the experieince isnt as good as windows and mac
[18:10] <Linkandzelda> maybe im just complaining
[18:10] <dr_willis> lastleo85: no idea. i wont own a mac ever again.
[18:10] <DX099> Hello, since one or two day now, I've been unable to launch rhythmbox, the program seem to be segfaulting segfault. Using Ubuntu 12.10 on 32bits.  Beta for almost 2 years
[18:12] <Linkandzelda> DX099: damn lol, well guess I should be happy then
[18:12] <DX099> Linkandzelda, plus we don't get the spam while people on Windows do.
[18:12] <dr_willis> i got a skype wifi phone.... years ago. ;-)  wonder if it would still work.
[18:13] <Linkandzelda> hehe
[18:13] <Linkandzelda> btw, does anyone know if AWN is better than Cairo dock? with ram usage, stability, community support, addons etc?
[18:14] <amogorkon_> how can i copy the raw text from an openoffice document into a txt?
[18:15] <Seveas> amogorkon_, select all, copy, paste in normal text editor?
[18:15] <EnginA> my apt cache is getting f*cked up apparently. I had to kill some apt processes becaues they were stuck in the background and locking the apt lock file... now some stuff looks corrupt. is there a tool to check hte integrity ?
[18:15] <amogorkon_> Seveas, doesn't work.. :/
[18:16] <DX099> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1337915/ besides, I think the fault happens somewhere after line 80483. Anyone got a clue ?
[18:16] <Darkstar1> hello all. How do I check the amount of space available in /
[18:16] <Seveas> Darkstar1, df -h
[18:16] <llutz> amogorkon_: open document, save as "text (*.txt)"
[18:16] <Seveas> !doesn't work | amogorkon_
[18:17] <Darkstar1> damn..!! 100%
[18:17] <Seveas> EnginA, what does 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall xterm' say? Pastebin the output
[18:17] <amogorkon_> llutz, thanks :)
[18:17] <amogorkon_> i didn't think of that
[18:17] <llutz> m(
[18:17] <amogorkon_> hm
[18:18] <amogorkon_> okay, nvm my question, actually it does work now again, after i closed the different editors
[18:18] <Seveas> Darkstar1, an easy win is probably 'sudo apt-get clean'. Then use 'sudo baobab' to find out what's eating your disk
[18:18] <amogorkon_> possibly a problem with the paste mechanism
[18:18] <amogorkon_> *shrug*
[18:19] <amogorkon_> and now it blocks again.. i don't get it. i'll try to export :/
[18:20] <amogorkon_> at least that works
[18:20] <harry> hi
[18:21] <Guest18646> yes
[18:22] <Guest18646> is any one there
[18:22] <Seveas> no
[18:22] <quist> Nothing to see here.
[18:22] <Seveas> move along
[18:23] <Guest18646> what software are you lot using
[18:23] <Pici> I'm going to go out on a limb and say Ubuntu.
[18:24] <Darkstar1> Seveas: Thanks. I'll try that now
[18:24] <Guest18646>  im using ubuntu dark
[18:25] <Seveas> Pici, actually, windows 8
[18:25] <efirvida> hi everyone
[18:26] <Darkstar1> Seveas: baobab just gave me errors
[18:27] <Seveas> Darkstar1, did you run it with sudo?
[18:27] <Darkstar1> yeah
[18:27] <Seveas> pastebin the errors
[18:28] <searching> I had a kernel panic: panic occured,switching back to text console
[18:28] <Darkstar1> Seveas: http://fpaste.org/PCeZ/
[18:28] <Seveas> hmm
[18:28] <searching> and than find in dmsg this init: failsafe main process (675) killed by TERM signal
[18:28] <Seveas> were you already root in that terminal?
[18:29] <searching> don`t reconize the router?
[18:29] <gustav__> Can I set xbiff to work with my Thunderbird mailbox setup?
[18:30] <gustav__> Any kind of small mail indication will work.
[18:30] <Darkstar1> Seveas: ran it with sudo
[18:30] <Darkstar1> Seveas: not logged into root shell
[18:30] <zykotick9> Darkstar1: 1) where you in Xorg?  2) don't use sudo with GUI apps!  use gksudo instead.
[18:30] <Darkstar1> nah. this is a remote
[18:31] <Seveas> Darkstar1, ah, that explains :)
[18:31] <zykotick9> Darkstar1: so you'd need "ssh -X foo" assuming ssh access
[18:31] <Darkstar1> remote dedicated
[18:31] <Seveas> Darkstar1, then you need to use du -sh
[18:31] <Seveas> I generally start with sudo du -sh /* and dig into the ones taking most space
[18:31] <Darkstar1> df -h actually works
[18:32] <Ivraatiems> Hi all. I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 server in an OpenVZ container, accessing it via SSH. I'm trying to use su instead of sudo to access root, which I know is not how Ubuntu does things usually, butwhich is what I prefer
[18:32] <Seveas> Darkstar1, yeah, but that's per mountpoint, du is per folder
[18:32] <Darkstar1> ah
[18:32] <Ivraatiems> and indeed, I do so on other servers running 11.04 in OpenVZ frequently. But for some reason, when I try to use su here, I get authentication failure no matter what. I know the password is correct, but it always fails
[18:33] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, the only reason for that to fail is that you used an incorrect rootpassword. Try sudo and reset the rootpassword.
[18:33] <Ivraatiems> Seveas the root password is correct. I literally changed it to "test" via a root SSH login, then used su, and it failed
[18:33] <zykotick9> !noroot | Ivraatiems Seveas
[18:34] <Seveas> if you can ssh as root, inspect /var/log/syslog to find out why su failed
[18:34] <Ivraatiems> I don't need help setting a password. I know how to do that; the password is set.
[18:34] <Seveas> zykotick9, we know... Read Ivraatiems complete messages.
[18:34] <jrib> Ivraatiems: also, keep in mind 11.04 isn't supported anymore.  See ubottu about upgrading once you sort this out
[18:34] <Ivraatiems> jrib I shall. Right now, gotta get this working...
[18:35] <Coiso> Hi all. I downloaded this drivers to install in backtrack http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[18:35] <Seveas> !backtrack
[18:35] <efirvida> im trying to install ANSY 14 in ubuntu 12.04 anyune can help me
[18:35] <Coiso> But i have no clue how to install it because all the information that i find is to enter in the folder but when i extract the tar file it shows me 2 folders so i have no clue how to install it
[18:35] <Ivraatiems> Seveas nothing in syslog about it, however, there are entries in auth.log
[18:35] <Ivraatiems> I'll pastebin them
[18:35] <DX099> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1337915/ besides, I think the fault happens somewhere after line 80483. Anyone got a clue ?
[18:35] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, ah yeah, 11.04 still had a sane log setup
[18:36] <Ivraatiems> Seveas http://pastebin.com/dwxPWTqq
[18:36] <efirvida> im trying to install ANSYS 14 in ubuntu 12.04 anyone can help me???
[18:37] <Ivraatiems> Seveas bearing in mind again that the password IS correct.
[18:37] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, did you muck about with your pam config? Are you using that password for your ssh-as-root sessions?
[18:37] <Ivraatiems> Seveas yes I am, and no, I haven't.
[18:38] <Seveas> try whether that works, also try `su -` as root
[18:38] <Seveas> if both of those fail, your pam config is busted
[18:38] <Ivraatiems> I can run su fine as root
[18:38] <Ivraatiems> and I can login to SSH as root
[18:38] <Ivraatiems> (which is what I am trying to avoid in the end, ironically :P)
[18:39] <Seveas> with the password?
[18:39] <Ivraatiems> yep. the password I set.
[18:39] <Seveas> k, pastebin the output of this: more /etc/pam.d/* | cat
[18:41] <Ivraatiems> Seveas http://pastebin.com/cnRpHBBx
[18:41] <gus> hola
[18:41] <lastleo85> what does nomachine do?
[18:42] <Linkandzelda> damn, why does dropbox fail to work almost 99% of the time :(
[18:44] <sta7ic> Hey guys...I use RDP from Linux into my windows work PC. but now that I have cisco VPN on windows pc, I am unable to RDP into there even from my local network sitting on the same network. Wondering if there was a way to allow connections from internal networking. I understand VPN on windows makes me look like I am sitting on internal CORP network so this is why its blocking it
[18:45] <sta7ic> Hey guys...I use RDP from Linux into my windows work PC. but now that I have cisco VPN on windows pc, I am unable to RDP into there even from my local network sitting on the same network. Wondering if there was a way to allow
[18:45] <sta7ic>                 connections from internal networking. I understand VPN on windows makes me look like I am sitting on internal CORP
[18:45] <sta7ic>                 network so this is why its blocking it
[18:45] <sta7ic> oops
[18:45] <FloodBot1> sta7ic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, after reading that pam config all I can think of is "no dude, your password is wrong" :/
[18:45] <Ivraatiems> Seveas yeah, except it isn't...
[18:45] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, or your keyboard layout is screwing with you. Try typing your password in your shell and see if it comes out right
[18:46] <Ivraatiems> it's literally just the word "test"
[18:46] <Ivraatiems> (no quotes)
[18:46] <Ivraatiems> and I'm entering it to login to SSH
[18:46] <mattyh88> hey, i've mounted my usb stick to /media/manufacturer .. I can read the files .. but how do I change one of the filenames and write those back to the usb stick?
[18:47] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, create a new user and try to su - from that user. Maybe it's something odd about the minecraft user.
[18:48] <Ivraatiems> Seveas Huh. that worked.
[18:48] <Ivraatiems> so why is the Minecraft user hated...
[18:48] <Seveas> ah, we're getting somewhere
[18:48] <apg> Guys, I saw there was a zram0 on my ubuntu precise. I did not set it up, it set from the instalantion. How do I remove it?
[18:48] <Seveas> what groups is it member of?
[18:49] <Ivraatiems> Seveas just "minecraft" XD
[18:49] <Seveas> and the new user?
[18:50] <Ivraatiems> Seveas the same, except with the new user's name
[18:50] <xibalba> ak
[18:50] <Ivraatiems> so where groups minecraft returns "minecraft : minecraft" groups newuser returns "newuser : newuser"
[18:52] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, did you muck about in /etc/security by any chance?
[18:52] <Ivraatiems> not that I can think of, no.
[18:52] <apg> Guys, I saw there was a zram0 on my ubuntu precise. I did not set it up, it set from the instalantion. How do I remove it?
[18:52] <crackerjackz> !password
[18:53] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, then I'm out of ideas and going back to my original assumption that you can't spell :P
[18:53] <Ivraatiems> lol but I can! clearly I can since I got in through the other account
[18:53] <Ivraatiems> I wonder if I ought to just kill the Minecraft account and make it anew
[18:53] <Seveas> very selective dyslexia :)
[18:54] <Seveas> maybe that'll help
[18:55] <Ivraatiems> yep - removing the account and recreating it worked
[18:55] <Guest87448> hi guys
[18:55] <Ivraatiems> how unusual
[18:55] <Ivraatiems> seveas thanks very much for your help
[18:55] <Seveas> np
[18:56] <crackerjackz> !chroot
[18:56] <wastrel> in thunderbird when the message list is not focused it is very difficult to see which message is selected because the select higlight color is gray and the message list is gray and white
[18:56] <wastrel> how do i make it visible more
[18:56] <blakes> I am having a monstrous time keeping cups running!  12.04lts,LTSP 5, CUPS 1.5.3.  Can ANYONE help please
[18:57] <Seveas> !anyone | blakes
[18:57] <beboj> looking for someone who usuing gobi 2000 5620 mini card !
[18:57] <beboj> *using