[00:00] <whorush> jessica, i just can't set it right.
[00:00] <Skopje75> guys...how to create symlink to gcc-4.2?
[00:00] <Skopje75> which said none
[00:00] <chaospsychex> whorush do you have "same image in all monitors" checked?
[00:01] <jessica_> @ whorush: have you tried setting "twinview"
[00:01] <Skopje75> anyone?
[00:03] <xeer> when I go to open a folder from the gnome panel, mplayer is opened and que's all the files in that folder. where is the setting to change this behavior? gconf??
[00:03] <magicianlord> is it worht upgrading to 64bit 10.10 from 31bit 10.04?
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> xeer:  so the default applicationm for a 'folder' is now mplayer you mean to say?
[00:03] <xeer> Dr_Willis: yes, it's quite annoying.
[00:03] <whorush> jessica, i'll try twinview, i might need to restart
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> xeer:  i know its setaable via the 'ubuntu-tweak' tools features. but not sure of any othe rway. theres a 'open folder' item you can set to be the default.  but i dont think you can riht clcik on a folder and change it that way
[00:04] <whorush> chaospsychex, i can't find that setting
[00:04] <jessica_> @ whorush.... try "twinview" and apply.
[00:05] <whorush> jessica, "auto" for resolution and "absoulute" for position/
[00:05] <whorush> jessica, i also checked "make this the primary display"
[00:05] <jessica_> @ whorush: that all sounds good... it's best if you set the resolution to the resoultion of your television.
[00:06] <whorush> jessica, i think that works, now one thing, it's 720p so that's 1280x720, but it's not listed
[00:06] <olskolirc> does anyone know the rss address for ubuntu forums?
[00:07] <Big_Brother> What command would i use to get a list of my HDDs and their location (hdx,x) ?
[00:07] <Russia> Jordan_U: You still there? The .iso didn't work... what would I need to do to use a USB?
[00:07] <whorush> jessica, so it looks kinda weird, like aliased or something
[00:07] <Snakkah> Hi. I have a problem with the proprietary ATI driver. When I activated it, my splash screen started to look very ugly and big. Is there any way I can get it back to normal?
[00:07] <magicianlord> should i upgrade from 32 bit 10.04 to 64 bit or not
[00:08] <rinku_kokiri> couple o restarts.. and still nothing
[00:08] <olskolirc> cat /etc/fstab Big_Brother or df -h
[00:08] <jessica_> @ whorush... so it's not a standard resolution?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> Russia: What happened when you tried to boot from it?
[00:08] <whorush> snakkah, maybe turn it off?
[00:08] <Snakkah> whorush, turn off the driver?
[00:09] <whorush> jessica, not sure what "standard" means, but 1280 x 720 is not in my ilst
[00:09] <Russia> Jordan_U: It gave me an error message, I think it was something along the lines of "Directory not found"
[00:09] <whorush> sankkah, just the splash ?
[00:09] <Russia> Jordan_U: Not entirely sure, I could go reboot and get a screenie if you want
[00:09] <jessica_> @ whorush: okay.. I guess what I would do is to just find the closest resolution that looks decent.
[00:09] <Snakkah> whorush, is there a way to turn the splash screen off?
[00:09] <Toma-> hi, having a bit of trouble with getting my USB headset to work with skype. ive read all the general guides on setup... and it works fine, but i cant specify which sound device to use in skype. its all just pulseaudio.
[00:10] <jessica_> @ whorush: but you've got a signal now?
[00:10] <whorush> snakkah, sorry i don't know, i probably shouldnt have said anything ;-)
[00:10] <whorush> jessica, yeah, i'm using 1360x720 and it looks real strange.  any way to add a resolution?
[00:11] <kaddi> Hi, I keep getting these errors with kubuntu: http://pastebin.com/DjjsrZVb and during those the system will temporarily freeze. Is there soemthing I can do to fix this? I ran fsck a couple of times already but it doesnt seem to be helping
[00:11] <jessica_> @ whorush: I am not sure. Let me see what I can find out.
[00:11] <whorush> jessica, thanks, i'm looking too, i think i mght have to edit one of those files, think i've done it b4
[00:12] <istvan007> hi
[00:12] <istvan007> i have a problem with networking
[00:12] <Jordan_U> Russia: That would help, but it's not a good sign unless your wubi install is fairly old (originally installed with a version of Ubuntu previous to 9.10).
[00:12] <istvan007> i had a ppoe connection
[00:12] <istvan007> but now i switched to router
[00:12] <Russia> Jordan_U: Ok, I'll go get a picture now... do you have an email I can send it to, since I'll be taking the picture from my ipod?
[00:13] <istvan007> and my computer doesn't seem to be connected to the internet
[00:13] <istvan007> i can't even find it on the router's log
[00:13] <istvan007> i have tried that cable whit my other computer
[00:13] <istvan007> wich has windows
[00:13] <istvan007> and it works
[00:14] <magicianlord> is 10.10 stable or stick with 10.04?
[00:16] <istvan007> 10.10
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[00:16] <Russia> magicianlord: I believe that 10.10 is stable
[00:17] <magicianlord> Russia: should i go from 10.04 32 bit to 10.04 64 bit or 10.10 64 bit
[00:18] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, only YOU can really answer that question.  What are you looking for?  Does your system have more then 4GB RAM?
[00:18] <Skopje75> anyoone help with gcc?
[00:18] <magicianlord> ZykoticK9: i think 64 bit is faster and more responsive. i have a dual core cpu with 2 gb
[00:19] <magicianlord> ZykoticK9: but i am not sure about drivers, like printers
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, with 2GB RAM I'd recommend 32bit.
[00:19] <magicianlord> ZykoticK9: running 1 partition, no swap file
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, it's probably easier if you leave the swap (but it's up to you)
[00:20] <magicianlord> ZykoticK9: it's faster without the swap and i dont need hibernate. however, should i reinstall and repartition?
[00:21] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, i can't answer that???
[00:21] <Doinkle> magicianlord, i just spent 3 months running 64bit 10.04.  I found it to buggy for me.  I went back to 32bit and it is much more stable for me.  I have 8Gb RAM but PAE works fine for me.  Your mileage may vary.
[00:21] <magicianlord> why not
[00:22] <magicianlord> Doinkle: thanks
[00:22] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, "should i reinstall and repartition" - why are you reinstalling?
[00:22] <magicianlord> Doinkle: should i stick with 1 partition, or reinstall with separate boot /home and / partitions?
[00:22] <magicianlord> ZykoticK9: for speed and stability
[00:23] <Jordan_U> magicianlord: Stick with one partition unless you're having problems.
[00:23] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, i use 64bit BTW and am quite happy with it, BUT i have twice the RAM you do, and don't mind the extra configuration steps required for 64bit.
[00:23] <magicianlord> Jordan_U: ok. do you ever have problems iwth 1 partition and no swap?
[00:24]  * h4f wonder
[00:24] <skraito> hi guys anyone know whats happening with kubuntu ?
[00:24] <skraito> i though there is couple of version of ubuntu with kde
[00:24] <skraito> i cant find it in the website anymore
[00:25] <ZykoticK9> skraito, http://www.kubuntu.org/
[00:25] <Jordan_U> magicianlord: I take that back, having a swap partition (or swap file) is a good idea. You don't need to re-install to make either though.
[00:25] <magicianlord> should i switch to 64-bit 10.10 then?
[00:25] <txdv> what about pressing on GET UBUNTU and then on DOWNLOAD KUBUNTU
[00:26] <magicianlord> Jordan_U: how do i make a partition on the existing drive when 100% is taken up by sda1
[00:26] <kaddi> Hi, I keep getting these errors with kubuntu: http://pastebin.com/DjjsrZVb and during those the system will temporarily freeze. Is there soemthing I can do to fix this? I ran fsck a couple of times already but it doesnt seem to be helping
[00:26] <skraito> zykotick
[00:26] <skraito> why ubuntu.com didnt include kubuntu anymore
[00:26] <skraito> instead the generalized it to ubuntu desktop
[00:26] <r007> because kde is poo
[00:26] <skraito> any idea why it is not included ?
[00:26] <txdv> r007: stop talking poo
[00:26] <ZykoticK9> skraito, ? i have no idea - i don't use Kubuntu
[00:27] <magicianlord> is 64 bit faster ?
[00:27] <magicianlord> r007: yes
[00:27] <Jordan_U> skraito: Ubuntu.com hasn't had links to download kubuntu for as long as I can remember.
[00:27] <ZykoticK9> magicianlord, 64bit is faster for a few things - for most it is equal or slower
[00:27] <skraito> ic thx for the info guys
[00:27] <magicianlord> ok man
[00:27] <skraito> is kubuntu updated with up to date package ?
[00:28] <skraito> or the project is dead ?
[00:28] <mac9416> magicianlord, I've been told that it's better for media-type stuff. Video editing, 3d modeling and such.
[00:28] <txdv> "project dead"
[00:28] <ZykoticK9> skraito, no more up-to-date then ubuntu - they use the same repository
[00:28] <ZykoticK9> skraito, kubuntu isn't dead.
[00:28] <txdv> dude KDE is much more alive then gnome every was
[00:28] <txdv> ever*
[00:28] <mac9416> magicianlord, as a matter of fact, my brother commented a few days ago about how much faster Blender is running on a 64-bit OS.
[00:28] <magicianlord> mac9416: ok man. so i should install 10.10 64 bit?
[00:28] <r007> why not install ubuntu and then kde
[00:28] <moep2> hi,  i try to play midi files with firefox an mozplugger/timidity, but it doesnt work. any ideas? :)
[00:29] <ZykoticK9> r007, +1
[00:29] <magicianlord> ok
[00:29] <mac9416> magicianlord, I'd say go for it. I use Studio Edition 64-bit and have had no trouble.
[00:29] <txdv> mac9416: it depends on the application, apps which do a lot of calculation, like blender, do run faster
[00:29] <magicianlord> thanks man
[00:29] <magicianlord> exit
[00:30] <mac9416> txdv, right. Things like Banshee don't strike me as being any faster at all.
[00:30] <istvan007> my question anyone?
[00:30] <istvan007> can you help me?
[00:30] <txdv> playing music doesnt eat up much more cpu
[00:30] <txdv> dunno, is banshee slow
[00:30] <UnholyTerror> istvan007, what's the question?
[00:30] <txdv> ?
[00:31] <istvan007> ubuntu 10.10 doesn't detects my direct connection
[00:31] <Jordan_U> !helpme | istvan007
[00:31] <istvan007> it was set to a pppoe connection
[00:31] <UnholyTerror> istvan007, wired internet?
[00:31] <istvan007> and now it's on a router
[00:31] <istvan007> yes
[00:31] <txdv> repeat with attitude
[00:31] <istvan007> wired
[00:32] <istvan007> !attitude
[00:32] <skraito> istvan007 try dmesg
[00:32] <skraito> and see whether it detect
[00:32] <istvan007> well my router doesn't logs it
[00:32] <lucas> hi! I have an external usb sound card from TRUST. When I connect it, the system sees it as an input device. How can I configure it?
[00:33] <UnholyTerror> istvan007, what happens if you pull up System->Preferences->Network Connections
[00:35] <istvan007> it says link up
[00:36] <r007> istvan did you see what I posted it says could not post to channel?
[00:36] <istvan007> yes
[00:36] <r007> ok cool
[00:36] <UnholyTerror> istvan007, is there a red X on the network icon on the menu bar?
[00:36] <istvan007> there are no items listed in the wired tab
[00:37] <chaospsychex> ?
[00:37] <istvan007> sorry for the delay but i have to work with two machines
[00:37] <istvan007> UnholyTerror no
[00:37] <r007> istvan can you ping out?
[00:38] <sarawara> if i closed skype, is there a way to have it back?
[00:38] <sarawara> starting up, tells me i have an instance open already
[00:38] <istvan007> ping google.com
[00:38] <istvan007> ooops
[00:38] <istvan007> sorry
[00:38] <istvan007> messed up the keyboards
[00:38] <istvan007> :D
[00:39] <istvan007> no
[00:39] <ponbiki> it should still have an icon on your top right panel sarawara (assuming default gnome install)
[00:39] <istvan007> unknown host
[00:39] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[00:39] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:39] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[00:39] <ponbiki> if not kill the process
[00:39] <UnholyTerror> istvan007, can you pastebin the output of: ifconfig
[00:40] <istvan007> ponbiki default install but not with the default theme
[00:40] <sarawara> no, i haven't got this icon since some time now, is there a way to get that back?
[00:40] <istvan007> UnholyTerror i can't
[00:40] <istvan007> the computer is not connected
[00:41] <UnholyTerror> istvan007, duh...
[00:41] <UnholyTerror> istvan007, type: sudo ifdown
[00:41] <istvan007> but it doesn't list any ip addresses
[00:41] <r007> hes saying he cant copy and paste as the box hes on is not connected...
[00:41] <istvan007> only ipv6 address
[00:43] <r007> istvan007 can you ping loopback?
[00:43] <istvan007> yes
[00:43] <r007> istvan007 what does lspci | grp Ethernet sho?
[00:44] <r007> lspci | grep Ethernet
[00:45] <shrapnel> where can I find a description of the 10.10 boot process? looking for scripts to disable. even renaming /etc/rc*.d, X still starts
[00:45] <itaylor57> shrapnel: look into upstart
[00:45] <r007> shrapnel interactive boot?
[00:45] <ZykoticK9> shrapnel, if you want to disable Xorg from starting see my notes at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/boot-to-console---disable-graphical-login-gdm
[00:46] <lucas> hi! I have an external usb sound card from TRUST. When I connect it, the system sees it only as an input device. How can I configure it?
[00:46] <Frenk> Hey I'm running a script - But It works too fast from my point, is there a way to see whats happening on the remote pc?
[00:46] <shrapnel> yeah, X is locking at login, and so is single-user. trying to narrow it down.
[00:46] <basix> hello folks. i'm running a mainline kernel on ubuntu 9.10. When I try to compile kernel modules, the installers usually cannot find the kernel headers though i have them installed. I think its because of the unusual naming of the mainline kernel. Anybody with experience compiling kernel modules using the mainline kernel can you pitch in? Right now I have an issue with compiling vmware workstation modules.
[00:46] <istvan007> it shows two adapters
[00:46] <istvan007> one of them is unfunctionable
[00:46] <r007> Frenk run strace on the script on the pc it runs on
[00:47] <istvan007> so there's no settings for that
[00:47] <istvan007> but it's onboard
[00:47] <istvan007> so i cannot take it out
[00:47] <ZykoticK9> istvan007, you "might" be able to disable the onboard NIC in BIOS
[00:48] <shcherbak> Frenk: what script? in ssh? in terminal? Shift-PgUp?
[00:48] <istvan007> maybe that would help
[00:48] <Musashi0011_> 4th hour trying to create a bootable ubuntu usb drive via a macbook...
[00:48] <istvan007> i'll try it
[00:49] <shcherbak> Musashi0011_: with unetbootin?
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> Musashi0011_:  can you get a live cd to boot?
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> Musashi0011_:  if so. you could set up grub2 on theusb. and have it boot the iso file.
[00:49] <Musashi0011_> I can't use unetbootin on os X.
[00:49] <Frenk> r007, shcherbak I run it remotly (OpenVAS). OpenVAS is logging in as an user and should check for Ubuntu Local Security Check - and is ready after 1 minute. Thats what makes me curious
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> that pendrivelinux web site may have alternatives to unetbootin.
[00:49] <feuergeist> hi
[00:49] <ZykoticK9> Musashi0011_, are you sure it's possible to boot a MacBook from USB?  I seem to remember someone mentioning it's not possible.
[00:49] <Musashi0011_> Dr_Willis: I thought I might need lilo or grub
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> Musashi0011_:  grub2 Can boot an iso file. Normally syslinux is used to boot a system on a usb vfat filesystem.
[00:50] <Musashi0011_> ZykoticK9 I'm not trying to boot my mac but my PC (laptop).
[00:50] <feuergeist> have problems setting monitor to correct resolution
[00:50] <feuergeist> nvida sux
[00:50] <feuergeist> nvidia sux
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> feuergeist:  i have very few issues with nvidia.
[00:50] <ZykoticK9> feuergeist, LOL - if you think Nvidia sux, try ATI LOL
[00:50] <feuergeist> what video card should we buy?
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> feuergeist:  you want to stick to the issue. and not rant about things suxing, you may get more help.
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> feuergeist:  for starteres what chipset exactly are you using, how is the monitor connected.
[00:51] <Musashi0011_> Dr_Willis: Thanks I am GTFM now...
[00:51] <UnholyTerror> feuergeist, what's the problem exactly?
[00:51] <istvan007> cannot disable it
[00:52] <istvan007> i haven't found any settings that can be related to the onboard lan adapter
[00:52] <feuergeist> the problem is that i cant set the correct resolution which it best suits my monitor, it doesn appear in the options provided by the nvidia driver
[00:52] <istvan007> so booting up again
[00:53] <shcherbak> Frenk: no clue, never used OpenVAS.
[00:53] <aeon-ltd> feuergeist: update, then try to force it in xorg.conf. also what resoluion is your monitor's max, and what is it displaying?
[00:53] <UnholyTerror> feuergeist, have you tried nvidia-settings?
[00:53] <r007> Frenk same here but it looks legitimate
[00:54] <feuergeist> my monitor is a samunsung 2033
[00:54] <Frenk> My server is going wild:  100% CPU and Rack: /var/www/
[00:54] <feuergeist> nvidia-settings dont help me
[00:54] <Frenk> and some wired letter-number combo
[00:54] <feuergeist> the optimus resolution does not appear
[00:54] <UnholyTerror> feuergeist, can you open a terminal?
[00:54] <feuergeist> I can
[00:54] <r007> Frenk when you run top press shift + i
[00:54] <Musashi0011_> Damn... I don't have the live CD just an ISO.
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> feuergeist:  and the exact nvidia chipset is? and the monitor is connected how?  and you are using the nvidia drivers from the System-> admin -> addational drivers tool ?
[00:55] <feuergeist> im sure
[00:55] <txdv> ZykoticK9: 3d effects on the laptop of my father (wich has an ATI card) works out of the box
[00:55] <UnholyTerror> feuergeist, type: xrandr
[00:55] <feuergeist> nvidia chipset? dont get it, rookie here
[00:56] <UnholyTerror> feuergeist, type: pastebin the results.
[00:56] <feuergeist> listo
[00:56] <basix> Musashi0011_, do you have virtualbox installed? If so, install a lightweight linux distro, install unetbootin in it and make the usb disk. dont waste time on trying to do it on a mac ;)
[00:56] <cgcardona> I just did cat /var/log/auth.log and it looks like there is an ip address that is trying to login to root from several different ports and different user names - is this normal or is someone trying to hack me right now?
[00:56] <feuergeist> no aparece la opción deseada
[00:56] <feuergeist> default connected 1152x864+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[00:56] <feuergeist>    1024x768       50.0     60.0
[00:56] <feuergeist>    800x600        51.0     52.0     53.0
[00:56] <feuergeist>    680x384        54.0     55.0
[00:56] <feuergeist>    640x480        56.0
[00:56] <feuergeist>    512x384        57.0
[00:56] <feuergeist>    400x300        58.0
[00:56] <feuergeist>    320x240        59.0
[00:56] <feuergeist>    1152x864       60.0*
[00:56] <feuergeist>    1360x768       50.0
[00:56] <feuergeist> ready
[00:56] <feuergeist> the desire option does not appear
[00:56] <Musashi0011_> basix. I thought of that... Unfortunately as big of a fan as I am of VirtualBox I don't have it installed on this mac book pro. Darn
[00:56] <r007> cgcardona if you have a ssh server running on 22 yes
[00:57] <txdv> good job, being stupid and not using pastebin
[00:57] <UnholyTerror> feuergeist, what is you desired res?
[00:57] <basix> Musashi0011_, install it then!
[00:57] <feuergeist> 1600 x 900 does not appear
[00:57] <cgcardona> r007: yes someone is trying to hack me?
[00:57] <r007> cgcardona best thing other than using a good password is changing the password is changing the port it listens on...
[00:57] <cgcardona> how do I find out what port my ssh server is running on?
[00:57] <cgcardona> ok
[00:57] <cgcardona> is this common?
[00:58] <r007> cgcardona not you in particular just any weak root passes
[00:58] <Musashi0011_> basix. I could... It just upsets me that I can't create a darn bootable usb on my mac with an iso..
[00:58] <cgcardona> so I need to change what port my ssh server listens in on?
[00:58] <UnholyTerror> feuergeist, see me in private window.
[00:58] <filo1234> or disable ssh login for root
[00:58] <Musashi0011_> Should be easy. just convert it to an img and run the dd command...
[00:58] <filo1234> too
[00:58] <Frenk> r007 http://d.imagehost.org/0224/screen.png
[00:58] <feuergeist> brb
[00:59] <r007> cgcardona by default it is 22 edit the ssh config file to change the port
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> feuergeist:  you did use the system->admin->addational drivers tool yet?
[00:59] <cgcardona> i am still a little unclear about that filo1234 - so do I create a new user other than root and then give that user the power to sude?
[00:59] <basix> Musashi0011_, ah
[00:59] <r007> cgcardona you dont need to its normal that your logs are like they are but it is advisable
[00:59] <txdv> Frenk: it seems like someone used an apache exploit
[01:00] <txdv> Frenk: and who the hell is "nobody" ?
[01:00] <cgcardona> and ssh keys are better than passwords?
[01:00] <Musashi0011_> basix ??
[01:00] <cgcardona> currently I am using both a macbook and a cr-48 and I haven't been able to add ssh keys to the cr48 so I have been using a password to ssh
[01:00] <rinku_kokiri> ok so #pulseaudio refuses to fess up and fix the problem
[01:00] <rinku_kokiri> so looks like i'm stuck
[01:01] <r007> cgcardona keys are more secure than passwords yes it will only allow the user who has the key to login
[01:01] <Frenk> txdv: I dont have a user named nobody =(
[01:01] <whorush> hey, i want to watch a movie on my tv from my ubuntu laptop.  i get it to display and everything on the tv, but the correct resolution isn't there, and the closest match is all alised and hurts my eyes.  any way to add a resolution?
[01:01] <Frenk> or anyone els
[01:01] <txdv> so you totally got hacked
[01:01] <txdv> what are you using>
[01:01] <txdv> ubuntu?
[01:01] <Frenk> yep
[01:01] <txdv> ubuntu sucks for servers
[01:02] <txdv> i was hacked too when i used 6.04
[01:02] <basix> Musashi0011_, i thought you just wanted it to be done. didnt know you were trying to make it work on the mac
[01:02] <txdv> ever since then im using debian stable
[01:02] <r007> cgcardona also disabling root logins is better an using sudo but doesent apply to ubuntu
[01:02] <renatow> cgcardona: netstat -nap
[01:02] <filo1234> cgcardona: normally way is disable root ssh login, but in each case enable root with a good password and  change default port
[01:02] <filo1234> IMHO
[01:02] <Frenk> txdv: I used OpenVAS to test my server - Thats where the explot was from.
[01:03] <r007> cgcardona make sure you edit sudoers though as a sudo user is root on ubuntu
[01:03] <txdv> O, so openvas created those processes?
[01:03] <Musashi0011_> basix: Yea... There are allot of tools available on Windows and Linux to get it done. I not only want to get it done on my mac, but I would also like to know why it doesn't work.
[01:03] <azertyu> hi i got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/547576/
[01:04] <Frenk> txdv: at least I think so
[01:04] <basix> Musashi0011_, ah
[01:04] <cgcardona> i don't totally follow - wondering where a good online resource is?
[01:04] <azertyu> hi i got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/547576/ what package i have to install ?
[01:04] <laurel> Using UNE on a Acer Aspire One and it cuts off the bottom of the screen hiding my response buttons. Can it be fixed and does anyone have a link to instructions?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: Have you tried the instructions on the ubuntu.com download page?
[01:04] <nerdy_kid> How do I manually remove a package from dpkg's database?
[01:04] <Musashi0011_> basix: The bios info is correctly set on my laptop PC and the image 10.10 has been unpacked to the usb drive via (dd if=/Users/MusashiBaka/Downloads/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m)
[01:04] <Frenk> txdv: because the server is in a local network so i dont think someone hacked it at 02;04 am
[01:05] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: Yes I have, to the letter.
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: They look to me like they shouldn't actually work, but for now I'm giving Ubuntu the benefit of the doubt.
[01:05] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: why do you think the shouldn't work?
[01:05] <txdv> well, it is not secure anyway
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: Because you can't magically convert a .iso image into a bootable usb image.
[01:06] <cgcardona> where is the ssh config file?
[01:07] <r007> in /etc/ssh
[01:07] <rinku_kokiri> anyone else have an issue playing a youtube video with other sound going on in the background?
[01:07] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: Steve Jobs wants us to believe in magic....
[01:07] <rinku_kokiri> or vice versa?
[01:07] <rinku_kokiri> i need some more brains on this
[01:07] <rinku_kokiri> MAAAAGIIICCCC
[01:07] <rinku_kokiri> SORCERY
[01:07] <UnholyTerror> rinku_kokiri, what's the issue?
[01:08] <bazhang> rinku_kokiri, please stop that
[01:08] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: So I guess that begs the question, "What makes a bootable image, a bootable image?"
[01:08] <r007> rinku believe thats a bug with flash iirc
[01:08] <rinku_kokiri> so i've been told three different thing's now
[01:08] <rinku_kokiri> it's a bug with flash/alsa/pulseaudio
[01:08] <rinku_kokiri> which one is it
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: Ahh, I understand the directions now. They will only work if you're booting from an intel mac, they won't work for creating a USB that's bootable on a BIOS based machine.
[01:09] <txdv> its flash
[01:09] <rinku_kokiri> UnholyTerror, open a youtube video..   then try to play music via your favorite music player
[01:09] <UnholyTerror> rinku_kokiri, what's the issue?
[01:09] <rinku_kokiri> what's the fix?
[01:09] <txdv> since it is not an open source project, you can only blame flash
[01:09] <xangua> ...
[01:09] <UnholyTerror> rinku_kokiri, what's the issue?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: Still not sure what that conversion is actually supposed to do, but that makes the instructions at least plausible.
[01:09] <txdv> the fix is: make it open source
[01:09] <laurel> can anyone assist with screen cutoff issue with UNE on a netbook?
[01:09] <rinku_kokiri> UnholyTerror, try the above., you'll find one doesn't work while the other is
[01:09] <nub2> Hello, I have installed uubntu 10.10 on my acer timeline X aspire 4820TG and I have a problem with my battery (it always shows as being 100% charged, even if it's not). Could it be that I installed x86 ubuntu even though my machine is x64?
[01:09] <cgcardona_> r007: so I just open that config file and uncomment the line that says "Port 22" and change the number from 22 to another random number?
[01:10] <xangua> rinku_kokiri: stop expecting we guess, are you using hardy heron¿
[01:10] <rinku_kokiri> never expected a guess
[01:10] <r007> cgcaradona change it to a useable port though
[01:10] <rinku_kokiri> and no i don't run classic software
[01:10] <cgcardona_> a useable port?
[01:11] <xangua> !details
[01:11] <xangua> rinku_kokiri: then would you provide some useful information¿
[01:11] <rinku_kokiri> xangua, have.. flash does not let anything else play audio
[01:11] <rinku_kokiri> and vice versa
[01:11] <rinku_kokiri> using latest everything
[01:11] <filo1234> cgcardona: uncomment? you can change Port on /etc/ssh/sshd_config not on /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[01:11] <r007> cgcaradona yeah for example not 80 , 25 110, etc
[01:12] <rinku_kokiri> xangua, sorry if i seem short, i've been trying to figure this out all day
[01:12] <nub2> Hello, I have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my acer timeline X aspire 4820TG and I have a problem with my battery (it always shows as being 100% charged, even if it's not). Could it be that I installed x86 ubuntu even though my machine is x64?
[01:12] <r007> filo the default port line is commented out
[01:13] <cgcardona> so which file should I change it in? ssh_config or sshd_config or both?
[01:13] <txdv> nub2: it doesnt have anything to do with your cpu architecture
[01:13] <cgcardona> thanks r007  and filo1234
[01:13] <cgcardona> :)
[01:13] <filo1234> r007: in ssh_config but it can be changed on sshd_config
[01:13] <JustMozzy> hi everybody
[01:13] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: Are you trying to make a USB for an intel mac or a BIOS based system?
[01:13] <nub2> txdv: any Idea what it could be then?
[01:13] <JustMozzy> merry christmas
[01:14] <cgcardona> confused - in ssh_config it is commented out - in sshd_config it is not commented out - if I uncomment it and change it in ssh_config do I also need to change it in sshd_config?
[01:14] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: Its an acer laptop
[01:14] <txdv> either dell doesnt comply to the hardware standard or it is a bug in the kernel
[01:14] <rinku_kokiri> so for more info.. here you go:: Linux rinku 2.6.35-23-generic-pae #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 24 10:35:46 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux :: flashplugin-installer 10,1,102,65 installed :: while using youtube/ustream/any type of web based flash media, no other media will play, no system sounds, no mplayer, no amarok, etc.
[01:14] <rinku_kokiri> there
[01:14] <r007> cgcaradona no just change the sshd_config
[01:14] <burhan> cgcardona: one is for the client, the other is for the server. Depends on what you want to do.
[01:14] <filo1234> cgcardona: recomment on ssh_config and change in sshd_config
[01:14] <Musashi0011_> JOrdan_U: but I am trying to create the bootable USB on my mac.
[01:14] <cgcardona> cool thanks
[01:15] <filo1234> cgcardona: and restart service
[01:15] <cgcardona> as in reboot my linode?
[01:15] <rinku_kokiri> or am i good saying "flash won't let other apps play sound"    ?
[01:15] <JustMozzy> I'm facing problem with gpg keys. When running apt-get update it gives me errors in the gpg authentication. so I ran the keys in this script http://pastebin.com/CKhGjAUZ but the problem still exists :s
[01:15] <r007> cgcaradona no as isn service sshd restart
[01:15] <laurel> can anyone assist with the screen cutoff issue using UNE on a netbook? Is there a fix or do i need to look for a different distro?
[01:16] <filo1234> cgcardona: not necessary reboot sudo service sshd restart
[01:16] <txdv> flash sucks, but it should actually play fine
[01:16] <txdv> could be an error in alsa pulse audio wrapper or alsa itself
[01:16] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: Ok. Do you want to try a combination of beta code and instructions that I can't actually test at the moment?
[01:16] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: Why do you think the ubuntu instructions only work for an intel based mac, as opposed to a PC?
[01:16] <txdv> ubuntu uses alsa as far as i know
[01:16] <cgcardona> when I try sudo service sshd restart I get sshd: unrecongized service
[01:17] <rinku_kokiri> earlier i was told to touch asound.conf and fill it with stuff
[01:17] <filo1234> cgcardona: ssh
[01:17] <rinku_kokiri> so i did..
[01:17] <rinku_kokiri> something did change... amarok APPEARED to be playing media
[01:17] <rinku_kokiri> but still no sound...
[01:17] <r007> cgcaradona you have root enabled and proper sudo setup other than the default by the sounds of it...
[01:17] <UnholyTerror> rinku_kokiri, ok, so what is your issue?
[01:17] <cgcardona> yeah I should have root and sude
[01:17] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: Ohhh Beta....
[01:17] <r007> cgcaradona try /sbin/service sshd restart
[01:17] <royale1223> Hi
[01:17] <nub2> anyone else having battery isues?
[01:18] <rinku_kokiri> unholyterror   again  "flash won't let other apps play sound"
[01:18] <rinku_kokiri> i.e. while a youtube video is playing.. NOTHING ELSE CAN PLAY SOUND
[01:18] <UnholyTerror> rinku_kokiri, I have sound from both youtube and rhythmbox at the same time.
[01:18] <Musashi0011_> JOrdan_U, Ubuntu beta?
[01:18] <cgcardona> ok - so "sudo service ssh restart" gives me "ssh start/running, process #number" - how can I check to confirm that ssh is now running on the port I chose?
[01:18] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: The Ubuntu liveCD images contain grub-efi, which be loaded via USB and a syslinux install that is only configured to boot from CD .
[01:18] <UnholyTerror> rinku_kokiri, Playing off an ipod nano 1G
[01:18] <filo1234> cgcardona: old name about ssh service :)
[01:19] <burhan> cgcardona: netstat -anp | grep sshd
[01:19] <waterbourne> how do i disable the annoying system sounds in lubuntu when i open an app or tab in firefox?
[01:19] <royale1223> Whats ssh?
[01:19] <r007> cgcaradona sudo ssh status
[01:19] <filo1234> secure shell
[01:19] <filo1234> !ssh | royale1223
[01:19] <Jordan_U> MushroomNZ: I'm on the road and about to enter a dead spot.
[01:19] <royale1223> Thaks ubotta filo
[01:19] <royale1223> Whats it for?
[01:20] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: ^^
[01:20] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: that would work, but unfortunately I don't have any CD-RW at home which is why I'm trying to create a bootable USB.
[01:20] <royale1223> Whats the diffrent frm bash?
[01:20] <burhan> royale1223: remote access to a system.
[01:20] <filo1234> royale1223: read wiki, it's for remote login by shell
[01:20] <royale1223> Alryt
[01:20] <r007> royale1223 its remote bash
[01:20] <cgcardona> awesome it appears to moved it from port 22 to the new port - sweet sauce
[01:20] <cgcardona> not to add some proper ssh keys
[01:20] <rinku_kokiri> ok.. UnholyTerror start playing a youtube video (via firefox) and open your sound preferences > applications.
[01:20] <rinku_kokiri> tell me if it shows firefox
[01:20] <waterbourne> how do i disable the annoying system sounds in lubuntu when i open an app or tab in firefox?
[01:20] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: Its a major catch 22. In order to create a bootable USB I need a CD... Which if I had I wouldn't need a bootable USB. Irony....
[01:21] <rinku_kokiri> UnholyTerror, cause thats where i think my issue is..
[01:21] <cgcardona> when I type top is shows that I have 2 users - how can that be?
[01:21] <klossor> 03:18 [ BaconZombie   ] [ guichtong    ] [ nimrod10    ] [ Vimk_         ]
[01:21] <klossor> 03:18 [ BaconZombie   ] [ guichtong    ] [ nimrod10    ] [ Vimk_         ]
[01:21] <klossor> 03:18 [ BaconZombie   ] [ guichtong    ] [ nimrod10    ] [ Vimk_         ]
[01:21] <klossor> 03:18 [ BaconZombie   ] [ guichtong    ] [ nimrod10    ] [ Vimk_         ]
[01:22] <royale1223> Jordan_U: bootable usb 4??
[01:22] <r007> cgcaradona what does the who command show?
[01:22] <UnholyTerror> rinku_kokiri, I'm using Chrome so it shows that. ALSA Mixer plug-in.
[01:22] <rinku_kokiri> ok
[01:22] <rinku_kokiri> cause when i run mine (via firefox or opera) it shows nothing in the apps tab
[01:22] <rinku_kokiri> when sound is working from youtube
[01:22] <cgcardona> r007: it shows me on pts/1 and some other ip address on pts/0 :-/
[01:23] <r000t_laptop> How do I tell if I have the latest driver for my REALLY outdated ATI card (MobilityRadeon X300)?
[01:23] <r007> cgcaradona can you copy paste if not are the ips differnet?
[01:23] <UnholyTerror> rinku_kokiri, and of course it also showed Rhythmbox (for the ipod)
[01:24] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: Super GRUB2 DIsk beta..
[01:24] <rinku_kokiri> SO does anyone have any idea why an application playing sound wouldn't show up in my sound preferences > applications tab?
[01:24] <rinku_kokiri> UnholyTerror, i expected that. lol
[01:24] <laurel> can anyone assist with screen cutoff issue in UNE on a netbook?
[01:24] <burhan> r000t_laptop: run software update, if there is something available it will tell you.
[01:25] <r000t_laptop> burhan: Also, how do I tell what drivers I have? I heard the x.org project built drivers manually
[01:25] <cgcardona> r007: I PMed the IP addresses to you
[01:25] <laurel> screen cutoff issue appears to be a known issue but I cannot find out IF there is a fix
[01:25] <nub2> hey I have a problem with my battery (it always show it is at 100%). Any idea what could be wrong?
[01:25] <burhan> r000t_laptop: run the driver wizard (that's the easy way). Or, grep the Xorg.log file, it will tell you which driver is being used.
[01:25] <r007> cgcaradona your box looks like it might be owened
[01:25] <Jordan_U> Musashi0011_: This would allow you to make the USB from OSX.
[01:26] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: sounds great...
[01:26] <UnholyTerror> laurel, can you choose another res?
[01:26] <Musashi0011_> Jordan_U: Anything with a Super prepended to it must be awesome!
[01:26] <cgcardona> r007: not good - I was recently logged on from my cr48
[01:26] <laurel> UnholyTerror, yes, but it only decreases width, cannot increase height and cannot move window
[01:27] <cgcardona> how can I check what IP address it was using?
[01:27] <cgcardona> or will it be the same as my macbook?
[01:27] <r007> cgcaradona different isp?
[01:27] <UnholyTerror> laurel, open a terminal...
[01:27] <rinku_kokiri> so update... gnome volume control won't show firefox playing audio
[01:27] <rinku_kokiri> and i still can't play youtube and amarok at the same time
[01:27] <cgcardona> my cr48 was tethered to my android phone because it doesn't pick up wifi in my office and my macbook is on the house wifi which is the hawaii ip
[01:28] <r007> cgcaradona the bit i brackets
[01:28] <r007> *in
[01:28] <r000t_laptop> where is xorg.log?
[01:28] <r000t_laptop> find | grep xrog.log isn't coming back with anything
[01:28] <UnholyTerror> r000t_laptop, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:29] <r007> cgcaradona could be that then what time did you connect?
[01:29] <laurel> Unholyterror..ready
[01:30] <UnholyTerror> laurel, type: xrandr        and pastebin the results
[01:31] <laurel> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 600, maximum 4096 x 4096
[01:31] <laurel> VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[01:31] <laurel> LVDS1 connected 1024x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 222mm x 125mm
[01:31] <laurel>    1024x600       60.0*+
[01:31] <laurel>    800x600        60.3     56.2
[01:31] <laurel>    640x480        59.9
[01:31] <r007> cgcaradona the first login is from sprint wether your mobile network use them dunno
[01:32] <cgcardona> r007: i do use sprint
[01:32] <trincione> buonasera
[01:32] <bazhang> !it | trincione
[01:32] <cgcardona> when I try to ssh in from my cr48 it now fails because it is looking on port 22
[01:32] <cgcardona> do I need to tweak that in the cr48's ssh config file also?
[01:32] <trincione> pardon
[01:32] <r007> cgcaradona looks ok then
[01:32] <trincione> ti ga rason
[01:32] <filo1234> cgcardona: ssh -p ( port )
[01:32] <UnholyTerror> laurel, see me in private...
[01:33] <filo1234> cgcardona: you have change it...remember? :D
[01:33] <ao> hi all, i can't partition my disk after bootcamp install win7,does anyone know why?
[01:33] <nicolaus> hey guys my webcam wont turn on
[01:34] <nicolaus> can u help me turn on my webcam i on am skype
[01:34] <KM0201> nicolaus: i thought you got it working the other day?
[01:34] <rinku_kokiri> can anyone help me figure this out?
[01:34] <nicolaus> nope :(
[01:34] <rinku_kokiri> dam
[01:34] <kaddi> hi, it seems one of the sectors on my drive has gone back. I keep getting this in my dmesg: [432529.089887] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 445024074 Is there a way to mark the sector as bad so that ubuntu won't keep trying ot use it?
[01:35] <KM0201> nicolaus: what kind of camera was it again?
[01:35] <r007> kassi have yu ran fsck
[01:35] <nicolaus> built in into my HP
[01:35] <r000t_laptop> Hm.... Dell's website won't quite tell me what card's in here. How can I ask for a specific model directly from the device itself, like on Windoze?
[01:35] <bazhang> r000t_laptop, lspci
[01:35] <cgcardona> hmmm
[01:35] <KM0201> nicolaus: see if lspci shows what it is.
[01:35] <cgcardona> now I can't connect on the new port
[01:35] <JustMozzy> I'm facing problem with gpg keys. When running apt-get update it gives me errors in the gpg authentication. so I ran the keys in this script http://pastebin.com/CKhGjAUZ but the problem still exists :s
[01:36] <ao> hi all, i can't partition my disk after bootcamp install win7,does anyone know why?anybody?
[01:36] <sparrW> how can I move a fullscreen window?
[01:36] <bazhang> !gpgerr | JustMozzy
[01:36] <r000t_laptop> X300.... You know NVIDIA is much more Linux friendly and if there was a way to replace laptop GPUs, I would
[01:36] <cgcardona> ok
[01:36] <cgcardona> i'm on the new port
[01:36] <cgcardona> sweet
[01:36] <nicolaus> i dont see it there
[01:36] <rinku_kokiri> how do i fix the issue where i can't play media while a youtube video is playing?
[01:36] <KM0201> JustMozzy: why on earth did you make that a bash script?
[01:36] <KM0201> nicolaus: hmm, check lsusb (can't imagine it being on the USB bus though)
[01:37] <r007> justmozzy any errors?
[01:37] <rinku_kokiri> and firefox crashes whenever youtube does it's duty
[01:37] <nicolaus> nope i dont see it
[01:37] <r007> justmozzy your pastebin looks like it ran ok
[01:37] <KM0201> nicolaus: well it's gotta be one of those two.
[01:37] <rinku_kokiri> it can't be lshw?
[01:37] <KM0201> !pastebin | nicolaus pastebin your lspci
[01:38] <JustMozzy> r007: that's the trouble. everything runs fine, but the apt update still gives me the same error for the same keys
[01:38] <itaylor57> KM0201: lshw?
[01:38] <KM0201> rinku_kokiri: i guess it could be... but really it should come up in lspci or lsusb
[01:38] <rinku_kokiri> what kind of card is it?
[01:38] <nicolaus> pm me km0201
[01:38] <KM0201> rinku_kokiri: it's an internal webcam
[01:39] <frxstrem> is there a good program for burning video DVDs in Ubuntu?
[01:39] <Morocco> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at tinyurl.com.
[01:39] <KM0201> itaylor57: i guess it could be.. i dunno
[01:39] <rinku_kokiri> mine shows in lsusb
[01:39] <rinku_kokiri> as a chicony electronics
[01:40] <JustMozzy> KM0201, to answer your question: because I am lazy
[01:40] <Doinkle> !ping
[01:40] <r007> Morocco can you ping tiny
[01:40] <KM0201> JustMozzy: i dont even remember my question, so i'll take you at your word.. :)
[01:40] <alabala> hello i have a problem with my wl-608 wireless adapter .. keeps disconnecting frequently
[01:41] <rinku_kokiri> !icmp
[01:41] <rinku_kokiri> aww
[01:41] <r000t_laptop> Synaptic says the latest ones are installed but there's gotta be something better than this. It used to be able to handle WoW on Ubuntu
[01:41] <r000t_laptop> Now it can't even do minecraft
[01:41] <rinku_kokiri> heh
[01:41] <rinku_kokiri> i run wow
[01:42] <alabala>  i have a problem with my wl-608 wireless adapter .. keeps disconnecting frequently
[01:42] <alabala> any help pls
[01:42] <alabala> ?
[01:42] <r000t_laptop> alabala: Do you own a microwave?
[01:43] <Morocco> r007 :  Réponse de <IP_ADDRESS> : octets=32 temps<1ms TTL=128  (tinyurl.com)
[01:43] <Morocco> r007 :  Réponse de <IP_ADDRESS> : octets=32 temps=189 ms TTL=56  (google.com)
[01:43] <Morocco> <IP_ADDRESS> :D
[01:44] <Morocco> Where is tinyurl.com?  OFfline ?
[01:45] <r007> Morocco its not offline because you can ping it
[01:45] <cgcardona> so I want to do this correctly - once I create a linode/ubuntu distro it starts me out with the user root - using sudo this user can do anything - is it not safe to continue logging in as root? am i supposed to create a new user and log in as that user instead of root?
[01:45] <Morocco> no i cant  r007 .... my ping request stick in localhost ...
[01:46] <Morocco> only with tinyurl
[01:46] <Morocco> other urls, its ok..  I set it from normal to extra to none to normal. On that final switch, it looks like it installed drivers. How do I tell what changed?
[01:47] <rinku_kokiri> me too
[01:47] <SashaNeko> i have just done something really stupid
[01:47] <SashaNeko> and need to know how to fix it
[01:47] <alabala_> i need help with my wl-608 wireless adapter .. keeps disconnectin randmly
[01:47] <r007> cgcardona dont believe the hype about not having a root account having root is good that way a sudo user isnt root like it is in ubuntu. Create a good root password and use su -c instead of sudo when you need to do something
[01:48] <rinku_kokiri> r000t_laptop, can you enable compiz?
[01:48] <LukaszTarkowski> Darn Asus G1S mother board stopped working twice in 2 years
[01:48] <r000t_laptop> rinku_kokiri I set it to normal if that counts
[01:48] <r000t_laptop> then again it was already normal
[01:48] <Arachon> Can anyone help me get my head around UNE 10.10?
[01:48] <rinku_kokiri> alabala_,  do you own a microwave?
[01:48] <rinku_kokiri> alabala_, and is your computer close to it
[01:48] <r007> cgcardona remove the all from sudoers though
[01:48] <LukaszTarkowski> I got a new laptop now :)
[01:48] <rinku_kokiri> alabala_, and is it a powerful microwave
[01:49] <cgcardona> r007: remove the all from sudoers?
[01:49] <rinku_kokiri> alabala_, and is it running when you disconnect?
[01:49] <SashaNeko> if someone was stupid enough to delete /var/lib/dpkg/ how would one fix it
[01:49] <bazhang> r007, cgcardona  very bad idea
[01:49] <rinku_kokiri> lol
[01:49] <bazhang> r007, please dont recommend that here. sudo -i for a root shell
[01:49] <rinku_kokiri> http://mm.bbspals.org/linux/lost-var-lib-dpkg-on-debian/
[01:50] <r000t_laptop> Also I don't think anything changes from normal to extra
[01:50] <rinku_kokiri> may help ^^
[01:50] <r000t_laptop> except the wobbling
[01:50] <SashaNeko> how do I get /var/lib/dpkg/ back
[01:50] <SashaNeko> please?
[01:50] <laurel> Arachon  I am running UNE 10.10
[01:50] <SashaNeko> im kind of freaking out
[01:50] <laurel> but I am new to it
[01:50] <r007> bazhang it does no harm in all the other distros like having a sudo user that IS root isnt worse lol
[01:50] <wolf3142> hey guys im somewhat new to ubuntu, and my built in software raid array crashed, any ideas on how to repair? 6x750gb drives in RAID 5
[01:50] <cgcardona> bazhang: why is it a bad idea?
[01:51] <bazhang> r007, again, its not up for debate; don't recommend it here, thanks
[01:51] <bazhang> !rootsudo > r007
[01:51] <r007> lmao
[01:51] <r007> !linux noobs
[01:51] <Arachon> laurel: Ok... Have you gotten the hang of the interface at all? I find it very confusing.... For example, is it at all possible to exclusively use the Unity file manager, or will I have to depend on Nautilus to view more "advanced" folders?
[01:51] <bazhang> r007, please stop that.
[01:52] <laurel> sorry, too new to answer that, lol
[01:52] <Arachon> Aight
[01:52] <laurel> <--looks to educate herself on Nautilus
[01:52] <UnholyTerror> r000t_laptop, what's the problem?
[01:53] <r007> truth is having a root acount is more secure than having a sudoer that has root privilages
[01:53] <bazhang> r007, lets move on please
[01:53] <r000t_laptop> UnholyTerror I need the latest drivers for this card because there's something wrong if it can't handle minecraft for more than a minute
[01:53] <laurel> I believe I exclusively use the unity fm, since I know nothing else, hehe
[01:53] <Arachon> laurel: It's essentially Ubuntu's equivalent of the Windows explorer, or OSX's finder
[01:53] <LukaszTarkowski> well going to offtopic now heh
[01:53] <SashaNeko> god the ubuntu channel is useless
[01:54] <Arachon> And it seems to be more "complete" than Unity FM... Unless I'm missing something.... As I've only been able to access the "pre-determined" folders from Unity FM
[01:54] <r007> bazhang fair dos but please dont tell me Im wrong
[01:54] <IdleOne> r007: you may be right for other distros but it is not the Ubuntu way.
[01:55] <bazhang> r007, lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to debate the merits of this, please
[01:56] <r007> Its not off topic but aint going to go on it is ubuntu related though
[01:56] <rinku_kokiri> how about this... i want to be able to play youtube and wow and hear both
[01:56] <rinku_kokiri> right now i can't
[01:56] <rinku_kokiri> anyone take it on?
[01:56] <bazhang> rinku_kokiri, got pavucontrol and padevchooser installed?
[01:56] <KM0201> rinku_kokiri: you want to play youtube, and WoW.. at the same time?
[01:57] <rinku_kokiri> yep and yep
[01:57] <laurel> arachon: do you use it on a netbook?
[01:57] <laurel> have bottom of screen cutoff issues?
[01:57] <Arachon> laurel: Yep
[01:57] <bazhang> rinku_kokiri, yep and yep to whom
[01:57] <family> Hi  im new to ubuntu. can i ask a question? i installed my ubuntu and it wouldnt work for a while, until finally i tried putting in "live video=ofonly" and it worked all good.  the only problem is that everything is tinted blue. how do i solve this?
[01:57] <jpds> r007: Your security is as strong as the weakest link in your security chain.
[01:57] <rinku_kokiri> bazhang, both
[01:57] <cgcardona> so i am still a little unclear on what the ubuntu way is? should I create a new user other than root and log in as that user on the regular bazhang ?
[01:57] <rinku_kokiri> lol
[01:57] <KM0201> cgcardona: there is no root user.
[01:58] <rinku_kokiri> been through a whole bunch of things, including touching asound.conf and adding some text in it..
[01:58] <KM0201> !sudo | cgard
[01:58] <KM0201> !root | cgcardona
[01:58] <rinku_kokiri> i think the base problem is.. when youtube is playing via firefox/opera, it doesn't show in gnome-volume-control liek other apps do
[01:58] <laurel> arachon: have screen cutoff issues?
[01:58] <cgcardona> KM0201: if there is no root user then why does ubuntu start me out with a user named root?
[01:58] <KM0201> cgcardona: if you don't want a user to have "sudo" priv... you remove them from sudo group.. and voila...
[01:58] <family> anyone know what my problem is?
[01:58] <r007> jpds yes but usually an admin ie root is more secure than a user ie sudo
[01:59] <Arachon> laurel: How do you mean, like the screen dies occasionally?
[01:59] <rinku_kokiri> cgcardona, did you name your user root?
[01:59] <KM0201> cgcardona: ubuntu should not be doing that... unless you've followed some hinky instructions.
[01:59] <kaddi> how can i figure out how many sectors are on my hard drive?
[01:59] <jpds> KM0201: 'admin' group.
[01:59] <UnholyTerror> r000t_laptop, what does Xorg.0.log say?
[01:59] <KM0201> jpds: well, yeah, admin.
[01:59] <KM0201> i have to consider my audience
[01:59] <jpds> Always important to know.
[01:59] <cgcardona> KM0201: rinku_kokiri  I didn't name my user anything - I am just using linode - that is what it starts me out with
[01:59] <joey_1> Question: Does anybody know the metapackage that keeps the Kernel up to date? I've been fooling around with BURG and I'm worried that it uninstalled the metapackage, and that my Kernel's not being updated.
[01:59] <histo> kaddi: look at the label on it.
[02:00] <laurel> no, when navigating through a program like Gnucash (and others) one cannot see the buttons that are surely there like OK and Back and Cancel
[02:00] <Arachon> Oh
[02:00] <kaddi> histo: is there an option that wouldn't include opening up my laptop?
[02:00] <histo> kaddi: maybe hdparm  or something
[02:00] <Arachon> Yeah, got that in the mail setup "wizard"
[02:00] <KM0201> cgcardona: what does linode, have to do w/ Ubuntu?
[02:00] <laurel> found a fix? found IF there is a fix? I am here looking
[02:00] <cgcardona> KM0201: my linode is running ubuntu
[02:00] <KM0201> ok
[02:00] <family> Hi  im new to ubuntu. can i ask a question? i installed my ubuntu and it wouldnt work for a while, until finally i tried putting in "live video=ofonly" and it worked all good.  the only problem is that everything is tinted blue. how do i solve this?
[02:00] <Arachon> Nah, didn't think much of it <.<
[02:01] <histo> kaddi: yeap sudo hdparm /dev/sda  will work
[02:01] <kaddi> thanks histo :)
[02:01] <rinku_kokiri> bazhang, so i've been through a lot of nothing, touching asound.conf and filling it with gobblydegook, (lol) only thing that changed is when I play youtube and then play amarok, amarok at least tries to play sound, instead of sitting @ 0:00 it counts, but still no sound
[02:01] <laurel> It has become a pain, have run into it three times and I cannot guess how many tabs to hit on one
[02:01] <joey_1> Question: Does anybody know the metapackage that keeps the Kernel up to date? I've been fooling around with BURG and I'm worried that it uninstalled the metapackage, and that my Kernel's not being updated.
[02:01] <daxt> guyz , i want to artificially increase the screen resolution to check an image with big dimensions , is there a way to do it ?
[02:01] <UnholyTerror> joey_1, why would you mess with BURG?
[02:01] <rinku_kokiri> been through all flashplugin installs, even the deb from adobe and the beta so linked to me from #pulseaudio
[02:02] <Skaperen> java for firefox used to work ... just work ... now in 10.10 it's not there ... is it in a different repository or did the name change?  anyone know what it is?
[02:02] <histo> Skaperen: they put it in the partner repo
[02:02] <histo> !partner | Skaperen
[02:02] <DominoDrive> hi. im getting message "acces denied" when i tru to do ./framework-3.5.1-linux-i686.run
[02:02] <Skaperen> partner repo ... same name?
[02:02] <DominoDrive> and i am running bash as root
[02:02] <joey_1> UnholyTerror: Just trying it out, I'm not new to Linux so I thought I'd tinker. I'm just wondering what apt uses to keep the Kernel up to date.
[02:02] <histo> Skaperen: yeah sun-java6-plugin
[02:03] <Skaperen> it was "sun-java6-plugin" before
[02:03] <laurel> thanks UnholyTerror and Arachon for trying to help
[02:03] <histo> DominoDrive: what does the script do?
[02:03] <Guest22638> I have Poco library.... and I have linux. Where showul I place this library?
[02:03] <Skaperen> OK, thanks!
[02:03] <Guest22638> I need to work with this library .... with C++
[02:03] <family> Question: i just installed ubuntu 10.10 on my mac (ppc) and it wouldnt install for a while, until finally i tried putting in "live video=ofonly" at the boot screen and it worked all good.  the only problem is that everything is tinted blue. how do i solve this?
[02:03] <DominoDrive> histo its suspose to install metasploit
[02:04] <rinku_kokiri> lol
[02:04] <rinku_kokiri> finally someone has the same want as me
[02:04] <rinku_kokiri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973637
[02:04] <family> ?
[02:04] <cgcardona> so linode starting me out with a user named root is not good?
[02:04] <rinku_kokiri> See I like to play my World of Warcraft and Music in the back ground
[02:04] <r007> joey_1 set a cron to run sudo apt-get install linux-image
[02:04] <Guest22638> ..
[02:05] <Guest22638> I have Poco library.... and I have linux. Where showul I place this library?
[02:05] <Guest22638> I have Poco library.... and I have linux. Where should I place this library?
[02:05] <rinku_kokiri> bye bye pulseaduio
[02:05] <rinku_kokiri> hello esound
[02:05] <Guest22638> I have C++ Poco library.... and I have linux. Where should I place this library?
[02:05] <joey_1> r007: thank's, I'll check that package. Chances are nothing got messed up. Do you know what the latest official kernel version for a Maverick is? I'm at 2.6.35-23
[02:06] <jamesmills> Q: Is there any way to install bacula without requiring postfix ?
[02:06] <Guest22638> ASSSHOL:S
[02:06] <jpds> !repeat | Guest22638
[02:06] <family> Question: i just installed ubuntu 10.10 on my mac (ppc) and it wouldnt install for a while, until finally i tried putting in "live video=ofonly" at the boot screen and it worked all good.  the only problem is that everything is tinted blue. how do i solve this?
[02:07] <cgcardona> so it is a good idea to change the username from root to something else?
[02:07] <r007> joey_i no idea Im using 0.04 and its 2.6.32-26
[02:07] <joey_1> family: Just taking a random guess here, but do you have a NVIDIA graphics card? Are you using Nouveau? I've had difficulty with the ppc and NVIDIA graphics
[02:07] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, yes!
[02:07] <joey_1> roo7: no problem, thanks so much!
[02:07] <family> Yes its possible
[02:07] <family> im not sure how to check
[02:08] <family> im pretty sure apple uses those though
[02:08] <cgcardona> UnholyTerror: how do I do that?
[02:08] <joey_1> family: try doing typing:  lspci | grep "VGA"   into the command line, see what it comes up with
[02:09] <family> okay, should it put that into the turminal?
[02:09] <family> terminal*
[02:09] <joey_1> family: yes
[02:09] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, System->Administration->Users and Groups, create a new account
[02:09] <joey_1> family: the bad news is I never sorted out my NVIDIA problems, but if it is a Nouveau issue that might help an expert know how to fix it better
[02:10] <family> Ok. just to be clear i should type in exactly this? lspci | grep "VGA"
[02:10] <Frenk> Hey, I have a Ubuntu-Server and I have a question regarding security-updated. I just successfully tried to exploit my Apache. There is information about a vulnerabilitie on USN but my server doesnt suggest to update anything! (Although I have security.ubuntu in my sourcelist) There are suggested updates for OpenSSL, ClamAV and Apache (on USN) but none of them appear in my update-lust. How to fix that?
[02:10] <r007> no quotes
[02:10] <cgcardona> UnholyTerror: i am doing it via command line on the server
[02:10] <rinku_kokiri> wondering if it was .asoundrc that was the problem
[02:10] <rinku_kokiri> meh
[02:10] <joey_1> family: yes, type exactly that
[02:11] <joey_1> family: lspci lists all of the system information
[02:11] <joey_1> family: then it pipes it into grep, which searches for lines with the phrase "VGA". In case you were interested...
[02:11] <r007> Frenk the versions on the os arent the same as the ones the original package is if that makes sense
[02:12] <joey_1> family: It should come up with at something indicating what video card you have
[02:12] <r007> Frenk they are patched look up linux backports
[02:12] <histo> Frenk: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:12] <histo> Frenk: or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:12] <cgcardona> so I need to create a new user - add that user to the sudoers group - and then delete the user named root UnholyTerror ?
[02:12] <family> Oh thanks for the info. Well heres what i got  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]]
[02:13] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, no delete root, no no no
[02:13] <cgcardona> i am totally confused
[02:13] <cgcardona> is there a root user or not?
[02:13] <cgcardona> i am firing up a linode ubuntu distro
[02:13] <cgcardona> it tells me to ssh in using root@ipsaddress
[02:13] <cgcardona> so is that root or not?
[02:14] <cgcardona> and should I change that login or not?
[02:14] <joey_1> family: definitely not a nouveau issue then. I can't help you any further (I'm not a video card expert), but at last you can tell an expert what video card you have
[02:14] <jpds> cgcardona: It is, Linode have made their own changes to the default Ubuntu install.
[02:14] <wowoto> hi
[02:14] <r007> om sorry but theres nothing wrong with root its just ubuntu is aimed at people who cant be trusted with it ffs
[02:14] <saml> hey, are there volume compressor plugin for pulseaudio?
[02:14] <saml> or can i use ladspa plugin with pulseaudio?
[02:14] <wowoto> any one here comes from China~
[02:14] <family> Okay well thanks for the help
[02:14] <bazhang> r007, lets move on, and watch the language please
[02:14] <rinku_kokiri> ok so new thinkg
[02:14] <jpds> !cn | wowoto
[02:14] <bazhang> wowoto, #ubuntu-cn
[02:15] <teluge> anyone know the mono core name in package manager?
[02:15] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, once you are sure your new account is working properly, remove the root's password.
[02:15] <rinku_kokiri> gnome-volume-control doesn't work without pulseaudio.. << how to make it or wha'ts an alternative
[02:15] <Skaperen> installed sun-java6-plugin ... but java is still not in Firefox ... after a reboot ... is there another step needed?
[02:15] <cgcardona> UnholyTerror: after I create a new user with sudo ability?
[02:15] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, yes
[02:15] <wowoto> bazhang: no, right now i can not input any chinese character
[02:16] <cgcardona> how the heck do I remove the roots password?
[02:16] <teluge> anyone know the mono core name in package manager?
[02:16] <Skaperen> cgcardona: change it to something obscure?
[02:16] <jpds> cgcardona: /etc/ssh/sshd_config → PermitRootLogin no
[02:16] <bazhang> wowoto, via ibus
[02:16] <jpds> cgcardona: usermod -L root
[02:16] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, you would use the same Users and Groups...
[02:17] <wowoto> bazhang: can not use ibus in tty2
[02:17] <bazhang> wowoto, you want to use only Chinese?
[02:17] <ubu_opera> Can anyone tell me why Opera wants to use its own font instead of the font I defined in the Appearance box?
[02:18] <wowoto> bazhang: since my english's so poor ....:C
[02:18] <cgcardona> i still don't understand if I am logging in as root or not when I ssh root@ipaddress
[02:18] <jpds> cgcardona: You are.
[02:18] <bazhang> wowoto, not sure about tty, in the gui ibus works great. perhaps #ubuntu-cn can shed some light there
[02:18] <wowoto> bazhang: thx
[02:18] <family> yeah is it possible to have chinese pinyin input on here?
[02:18] <Nisstyre65> merry christmas #ubuntu
[02:18] <cgcardona> so it is dangerous to log in as root if I don't know what I'm doing?
[02:19] <jpds> cgcardona: But you can create a new user account, add it to the sudoers admin group; and then lock down the root account.
[02:19] <jpds> cgcardona: Potentially, knowledge is power.
[02:19] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, are you trolling now?
[02:20] <root_> exit
[02:20] <Skaperen> cgcardona: it's dangerous to play with loaded guns, too ... but they can have power in the right hands
[02:20] <UnholyTerror> jpds, that's what I just told them...
[02:21] <r007> yes it is dangerous to log in as root if you dont know what your doing
[02:21] <cgcardona> UnholyTerror: am I trolling?
[02:22] <cgcardona> no I am complete newb and am confused
[02:22] <r007> but ubuntu took root away on other distros you get a warning when running sudo
[02:22] <rinku_kokiri> so i uninstalled pulseaudio.. it fixed my flash problem.. but now i can't adjust the volume, gnome-volume-control isn't on the panel
[02:22] <r007> but on ubuntu sudo is root
[02:22] <rinku_kokiri> and when i try to run it via cli it gives me an error ** (gnome-volume-control:3337): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting...
[02:22] <r007> no other distros use sudo
[02:23] <r007> su -c is much ore secure
[02:23] <Tito0096> Anyone want to help me combine Chrome OS stuff with a ubuntu install?
[02:23] <bazhang> r007, please stop
[02:23] <r007> sudo is only needed for multi users
[02:23] <r007> people are asking
[02:23] <bazhang> Tito0096, remaster it?
[02:23] <rinku_kokiri> anyone have any ideas how to now fix gnome-volume-control?
[02:23] <bazhang> r007, and I have asked you to move on, repeatedly
[02:23] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, when you new account is set up and you need to perform 'admin' type actions. Linux will ask you for your password.
[02:23] <cgcardona> jpds: I think I got the answer I need - create a new user in the same group as root - then lock down root
[02:23] <rinku_kokiri> or should i just reinstall pulseaudio
[02:23] <Tito0096> Bazhang, I need some drivers from Chrome OS on the Cr-48 to put in the Ubuntu install
[02:24] <jpds> cgcardona: Yep.
[02:24] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, what OS are you using?
[02:24] <r007> I have but people are asking questions arnt we supposed to answer them?
[02:24] <cgcardona> i am using ubuntu 10.04
[02:24] <cgcardona> on the server
[02:24] <jpds> cgcardona: You have to put the new user into the 'admin' group (ie, adduser username admin).
[02:24] <bazhang> r007, the ubuntu way, not to your own non-ubuntu liking
[02:24] <cgcardona> jpds: cool
[02:24] <UnholyTerror> cgcardona, what server?
[02:24] <r007> no the Linux way bazhang
[02:24] <cgcardona> sorry for asking the same questions over and over - definitely not trolling
[02:24] <bazhang> r007, not here
[02:24] <cgcardona> UnholyTerror: linode
[02:25] <jpds> cgcardona: The /etc/sudoers file defines which group as sudo rights.
[02:25] <r007> so this isnt Linux is it suppose that is the ubuntu way
[02:25] <rinku_kokiri> YES I FIXED IT
[02:25] <rinku_kokiri> but
[02:26] <rinku_kokiri> i still don't have the volume icon on the gnome-panel
[02:26] <jpds> cgcardona: When you've created your new user, you can check that it has the right privs, logging in and then running: sudo -l
[02:26] <IdleOne> that is a capital i
[02:26] <cgcardona> ok cool
[02:27] <Tito0096> wait i thought that was an l
[02:27] <cgcardona> thanks again - a lot to digest here but I will reread it twice before I spam the room with newb questions again
[02:27] <rinku_kokiri> lowercase L
[02:27] <IdleOne> or is it a lower case L
[02:27] <IdleOne> sorry my bad
[02:27] <Tito0096> it is
[02:27] <bazhang> lowercase l
[02:27] <Tito0096> I = l
[02:27] <AV_OC> exit
[02:27] <jpds> cgcardona: No worries, we all had to start as beginners some day.
[02:28] <bazhang> cgcardona, best to ask :)
[02:28] <r007> test
[02:28] <UnholyTerror> does ubuntu server default to root as the user on install?
[02:29] <jpds> UnholyTerror: No, it's just how Linode have set it up.
[02:29] <r007> unholy now ubuntu server does not have root
[02:29] <r007> no not now*
[02:29] <UnholyTerror> jpds, good god!
[02:29] <jpds> UnholyTerror: Amazon do the same with their EC2 instances, and no; I'm not him.
[02:30] <r007> Im serously going off ubutu
[02:30] <bazhang> r007, please dont continue
[02:30] <bastidrazor> jpds: cgcardona add the new user to admin group and it'll be able to use sudo
[02:30] <r007> its like the download options windows mac or ubuntu dont forget what this is LINUX
[02:30] <jpds> r007: GNU/Linux, thanks.
[02:31] <UnholyTerror> jpds, this has got to be a way to get support $$$ from people that end up screwing up their accounts.
[02:31] <cr215> hi.   in order to familiarize someone else with ubuntu i am making it look a little more like windows xp for them.  i just found a site and i am wondering if what it siggests is safe.  also the site's url made me have some doubts about triusting it...  http://ubuntu.online02.com/node/14
[02:31] <r007> true jpds sorry
[02:31] <cr215> should i try it?
[02:31] <Skaperen> on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins someone added that the Java plugins instructions do not work ... and could not fix the referenced page ... anyone know if that command there is the right one?
[02:31] <noonian> r007, it is trivial to enable root
[02:32] <r007> noonian I know it is but Linux is about choice
[02:32] <bastidrazor> cr215: in my opinion, Kubuntu resembles windows 7/xp more than anything. it may be easier to convert a windows user with
[02:32] <UnholyTerror> cr215, for what purpose?
[02:32] <Skaperen> e.g. is the Java plugin now a new package?  if so, why didn't they delete the wrong one?
[02:32] <IdleOne> Stop now with all the enabling root in Ubuntu talk. it is NOT supported and will get you banned very soon.
[02:32]  * Skaperen installed sub-java6-plugin but it doesn't work
[02:32] <cgcardona> are there logs for this room?
[02:32] <noonian> r007, you have a choice.
[02:33] <bazhang> Skaperen, from the partner repo?
[02:33] <jpds> !logs | cgcardona
[02:33] <UnholyTerror> IdleOne, actually we were talking about disabling root... but i'm done with it.
[02:33] <Skaperen> bazhang: yeah
[02:33] <bazhang> Skaperen, restarted firefox after installing?
[02:33] <r007> are conical telling you to do this
[02:33] <cr215> its for my mom...   i love gnome ive personallized it a lot many times and i could do it on my own but i was curious about this paticular script
[02:34] <Skaperen> bazhang: I even rebooted ... and just checked another machine that is amd64 and it's not there either
[02:34] <eazyigz> I don't know what happened, but after doing apt-get update and upgrade my wifi won't connect
[02:34] <cr215> theres a youtube video that shows  the process...  its supposed to be some kind of script that does it all for you
[02:34] <eazyigz> its so f$n weird and frustrating
[02:34] <cr215> and is easily reversable...   but could it be a scal to teick ppl into downloading malware?
[02:34] <rinku_kokiri> booyah
[02:34] <bastidrazor> cr215: look at the script to see if it has anything malicious
[02:35] <rinku_kokiri> yeyo
[02:35] <rinku_kokiri> i gots flash and amarok playing audio at the shame time
[02:35] <Skaperen> bazhang: current machine where I need to get java working is a netbook, i386
[02:35] <UnholyTerror> cr215, if you make it look like XP, she'll end up thinking it's XP... and it won't be XP...
[02:35] <cr215> i dont know enuff aoburt scripts...  just one i have wriitten down somwhere so i never do it
[02:35] <AegNuddel> I'm getting errors from mono
[02:35] <cr215> o wait thats a terminal command
[02:35] <bazhang> Skaperen, odd, it works fine here
[02:36] <Fezzler> I love ubuntu be it seem every version I struggle with nvidia, pulse audio and jackd
[02:36] <bastidrazor> cr215: then teach your mother how to use what you have instead of some, possibly, evil script.
[02:36] <Skaperen> bazhang: I know I've had it working, but now I think maybe all the machines I had it on are on 9.10
[02:36] <bazhang> Fezzler, which nvidia card
[02:36] <cr215> lol @unholy terror... i want it to be gnome...  just to ease her transition
[02:36] <Fezzler> I spend more time working on the PC that working or being creative
[02:36] <IdleOne> cr215: I think making Ubuntu look like windows would be counter productive, if you want the the user to get used to Ubuntu let them use Ubuntu.
[02:36] <UnholyTerror> cr215, check for themes at gnome-look.org
[02:36] <teluge> #techsupport
[02:36] <bazhang> Fezzler, for playing games, or not so much
[02:36] <Fezzler> bazhang>> Geoforce FX5500
[02:36] <histo> Fezzler: click Systme > admin > hardware drivers   done with nvidia what else is there?
[02:36] <cr215> any suggestions or wasing her transition?
[02:36] <Fezzler> bazhang>> Just trying to get compiz working
[02:36] <cr215> i loved gnome from the start
[02:37] <Skaperen> bazhang: I don't normally use Java so I would not really notice ... but on this machine I need to get it working
[02:37] <bazhang> Fezzler, thats an older card, the open source drivers work fine here ( a bit newer card though 9400 iirc)
[02:37] <cr215> i could just put some shortcuts on the desktop for her
[02:37] <itaylor57> Skaperen: open or sun?
[02:37] <cr215> how do u make one for the trash?
[02:37] <UnholyTerror> Fezzler, what's the problem?
[02:37] <Skaperen> bazhang: I've even wiped off ${HOME}/.mozilla and restarted Firefox to let it create a new config, and still the Java plugin is not there
[02:38] <Skaperen> bazhang: Firefox needs a "plugin control" menu panel where it lists all files in the plugins areas, which look valid, which are enabled, etc
[02:39] <rinku_kokiri> My sound issue was an invalid .asoundrc
[02:39] <rigved> cr215: you don't have to. check the bottom right corner of your screen. do you see the Trash icon
[02:39] <rinku_kokiri> all fixed nau
[02:39] <cr215> i know
[02:39] <AegNuddel> Does anyone know how mono works?  I'm getting errors from something that says it is mono enabled
[02:39] <cr215> just wondering how if someone wanted to
[02:40] <AegNuddel> I have it in a pastebin
[02:40] <cr215> cuz i dont know its file location or command
[02:40] <Skaperen> bazhang: should I re-install from scratch?
[02:40] <bastidrazor> !trash | cr215
[02:40] <AegNuddel> if anyone wants to know/see
[02:40] <AegNuddel> here it i
[02:40] <AegNuddel> s
[02:40] <AegNuddel> http://pastebin.com/FGF53A6T
[02:40] <UnholyTerror> AegNuddel, I know you can get it from kissing...
[02:40] <bazhang> Skaperen, that is almost never the answer for such an issue; do you have any other java installed? icedtea or the like?
[02:41] <AegNuddel> UnholyTerror, wrong mono
[02:41] <UnholyTerror> :)
[02:41] <cr215> this was my karmic configuration..   credit to kenzus on deviantart for the desktop and the originall image that i ised in the panels    http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/139/3/3/My_Desktop_by_robot_chicken_parm.png
[02:41] <Skaperen> bazhang: I didn't look ... let me go do that
[02:41] <Fezzler> says it is running nividia current
[02:41] <Fezzler> and asked me to "restart X"
[02:41] <UnholyTerror> AegNuddel, makes you feel the same.
[02:41] <Fezzler> BRB
[02:41] <Fezzler> I will reboot
[02:41] <daxt_> guys is there a way to increase the screen resolution artificially ?
[02:41] <cr215> that you @ ubottu
[02:41] <AegNuddel> UnholyTerror, lol
[02:41] <UnholyTerror> daxt ?
[02:41] <bazhang> cr215, ubottu is a bot
[02:42] <cr215> aaahahaha
[02:42] <rigved> !brain | cr215
[02:42] <cr215> i thought it was but its stsill the shit
[02:42] <cr215> can i say that word here?
[02:42] <rigved> !language | cr215
[02:43] <daxt_> guys is there a way to increase the screen resolution artificially ?
[02:43] <UnholyTerror> daxt ?
[02:43] <Skaperen> bazhang: java-common, sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-plugin (did "dpkg -l | grep java")
[02:44] <pksadiq> daxt_: nvidia ?
[02:44] <rigved> daxt_: not if your monitor does not support it at all. nut try this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/546908/
[02:44] <rigved> daxt_: *but
[02:44] <daxt_> unholyterror my max screen resolution is 1440X900, i am looking for some way of increasing into twice the size of it temporary
[02:44] <daxt_> yes NVIDIA
[02:45] <pksadiq> !info nvidia-settings | daxt_
[02:45] <Skaperen> daxt_: you wanting to match your monitor, or exceed it?
[02:45] <daxt_> exceed it temporarily
[02:45] <Ashfire908> Hi, I'm having issues with Pidgin's audio. Usually any sound it plays starts off with a crackly noise.
[02:45] <daxt_> coz i got an image with huge dimensions
[02:46] <Skaperen> daxt_: probably have to hack the Xorg config file
[02:46] <daxt_> i want to see it as one
[02:46] <pksadiq> daxt_: you can't exceed unless your monitor and graphics card supports so
[02:46] <AnthonyCat> My home is "/Users/Anthony" where /Users is a symlink to /media/Macintosh HD/Users. When I open Gnome Terminal, it begins with in /media/Macintosh HD/Users/Anthony,  instead of "~". Is there a way to make it start at ~? typing cd ~ works
[02:46] <Ashfire908> (If Pidgin is off topic, I'll go ask there, but since the issue is with the audio, it's more a system thing.)
[02:46] <Skaperen> daxt_: do you want a large workspace (example 2560x1600) with a small window into it (e.g. match monitor like 1440x900) ?
[02:47] <daxt_> u all know web developer toolbar right , it has an option to set custom resolutions inside the firefox which can do beyond the supported resolution
[02:47] <daxt_> Skaperen  yes  i want large workspace
[02:47] <Skaperen> daxt_: if you exceed your monitor, it likely will just blank out
[02:47] <rigved> daxt_: use the link which i gave above. print it and then try it. but beware that it'l most likely not work as your monitor does not support
[02:47] <UnholyTerror> daxt, what do you need to do. see a large image on the screen all at once. the image viewer will do that.
[02:47] <TheWarden> Merry Christmas
[02:47] <wn1zid> ^
[02:48] <rigved> daxt_: change the resolution of the image and then view it...
[02:48] <daxt_> UnHolyTerror , unfortunately  i am developing an app using GTK+ so i dont have the luxury of image viewer :(
[02:48] <TheWarden> I have an issue that is really bugging me. I altered my account in Ubunutu 10.10 to not prompt for a password. Now I can't login unless I go to the shell.
[02:48] <AegNuddel> TheWarden, Merry Christmas to you too!
[02:48] <Skaperen> daxt_: I did stuff like that back when I hand coded my own Xorg.conf files on Slackware for CRTs ... but I haven't done that in recent versions for LCDs
[02:48] <TheWarden> I receive the following error message "Could not update ICEauthority file
[02:48] <Maucat> s
[02:49] <rigved> daxt_: print this and then try this method - http://paste.ubuntu.com/546908/
[02:49] <TheWarden> then I click the button and it shows "There is a problem with the config server /usb/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[02:50] <TheWarden> There must be something I can do to resolve this without having to re-install Ubuntu. It worked slick with no issues prior to me changing my account to not prompt for login password. Hell if I knew how to put it back I would.
[02:50] <TheWarden> damn gui has gotten me confused
[02:50] <cr215> thanks for all the suggestions everyone
[02:50] <Skaperen> TheWarden: what did you do to make it not prompt?
[02:50] <TheWarden> yes I've tried google but so far no luck locating a solution.
[02:51] <Skaperen> TheWarden: you can login to shell via text console and sudo?
[02:51] <histo> TheWarden: system >admin > login screen
[02:51] <TheWarden> Skaperen: it prompt... when you turn on the computer it always prompts for username and password. So I though well this is a media center primarily so lets remove the password. I did this in the GUI and now this problem.
[02:52] <histo> TheWarden: To re-enable the password that is.
[02:52] <TheWarden> Skaperen: I login with my account that I set during installation.
[02:52] <daxt_> hi rigved , i tried that , but it makes the screen turn off :(
[02:52] <Skaperen> TheWarden: but you now cannot get into the GUI at all?
[02:52] <TheWarden> histo: Ahh I do that in the shell prompt? Remember I can't login via the GUI anymore.
[02:52] <Skaperen> TheWarden: I do not know what the GUI tool for making no password actually did
[02:52] <TheWarden> Skaperen: correct it just asks for username I press enter and it gives me to errors and then sits there with the wallpaper and nothing else.
[02:53] <rigved> daxt_: that means that your monitor does not support that resolution. try changing the resolution of the image that you want to view
[02:53] <TheWarden> Skaperen: I wish I know... I just did it under Users and Groups
[02:53] <Skaperen> TheWarden: what do errors say?
[02:53] <histo> TheWarden: what did you do under users and groups?
[02:53] <TheWarden> Skaperen: the ones I posted priviously. let me get them again.
[02:53] <TheWarden> I receive the following error message "Could not update ICEauthority file
[02:53] <TheWarden> then I click the button and it shows "There is a problem with the config server /usb/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[02:54] <TheWarden> histo: I set it to not prompt for password
[02:54] <Skaperen> TheWarden: did you change the uid numbers or anything like that?
[02:54] <Skaperen> does the ICEauthority message repeat each time you login?
[02:54] <TheWarden> Skaperen: no
[02:54] <histo> TheWarden: you can't in there so I'm not quite sure what you did.
[02:54] <TheWarden> Skaperen: yes
[02:54] <Skaperen> TheWarden: sounds like some ownership mismatch
[02:54] <magicianlord> hey, i installed 10.10 64 bit and it is much faster
[02:55] <UnholyTerror> TheWarden, try reinstating the password...
[02:55] <Skaperen> TheWarden: login on text console and see if files are owned by the correct user
[02:55] <magicianlord> even the beta flash player works fine
[02:55] <Skaperen> TheWarden: does it prompt for password on text console ... or does it skip password?
[02:55] <TheWarden> Okay I went to Users and Groups then clicked on Change under password.
[02:55] <UnholyTerror> magicianlord, applause!
[02:55] <magicianlord> UnholyTerror: thanks
[02:55] <TheWarden> and I checked don't ask for password at login
[02:56] <TheWarden> Skaperen: yeah that's what I thought but I checked the .ICEauthority file and I have read and write permissions
[02:56] <UnholyTerror> TheWarden, try re-instating the password...
[02:56] <TheWarden> Skaperen: yes it prmopts at the shell for the password.
[02:57] <Skaperen> TheWarden: and all other files?  find /home/username -ls | less
[02:57] <TheWarden> UnholyTerror: Ahh how do you suggest I do that that would be affected in the GUI?
[02:57] <Skaperen> TheWarden: well, then somehow you didn't get changed what yough thought was changed, and something else got changed
[02:57] <TheWarden> Skaperen: yeah I have the rights to them under my home
[02:57]  * TheWarden sigh
[02:57] <Skaperen> TheWarden: not just rights ... but OWNERSHIP ???
[02:58] <TheWarden> I guess I just re-install then damn it
[02:58] <UnholyTerror> TheWarden, wait, you turned off login password but it still asks in the terminal?
[02:58] <TheWarden> Skaperen: yes I have ownership and group as well
[02:58] <TheWarden> UnholyTerror: correct
[02:58] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: yeah, so it seems he didn't get what he wanted
[02:58] <UnholyTerror> TheWarden, hold a sec...
[02:59] <TheWarden> I shouldn't have done that.  I guess... just didn't want to go through setting everything back up again argh.
[03:00] <Skaperen> TheWarden: hehe ... yeah ... doing some new strange thing tends to be a learning experience ... practice makes perfect
[03:00] <TheWarden> gotta be some damn file that could be corrected but no clue what. Stupid GUIs make ppl dumb :)
[03:00] <magicianlord> the beta flash player wont play on hulu
[03:00] <magicianlord> why not. what to fix it
[03:01] <Skaperen> TheWarden: if I could login as root I might well be able to see the issue and fix it ... but that's not an option here
[03:01] <Skaperen> TheWarden: if I was in front of your console, that would be an option
[03:01] <UnholyTerror> TheWarden, if you type your password does it login (to the termial)?
[03:01] <TheWarden> dang it... have to pull up the stupid monitor now to hook backup to the system argh oh man I resetup MythTV oh man okay I gotta do more reading this this doesn't happen again.
[03:01] <sutibu> can I ask an XChat question here?
[03:01] <TheWarden> Skaperen: yeah well that would be a little difficult to remote in like that :)
[03:02] <TheWarden> UnholyTerror: yes
[03:02] <Skaperen> TheWarden: I always make my first user be "manager" and then make a 2nd user for other things (like my name)
[03:02] <wingnut2626> so i take it nobody can answer it?
[03:02] <UnholyTerror> TheWarden, you could try: sudo startx
[03:02] <sutibu> Ubuntu 10.10 - newest patch level - whenever I go into Preferences and try and change background color on XChat, it crashes.  Seeing this on both Ubuntu 10.10 as well as pinguy
[03:02] <Viking667> evening...
[03:03] <UnholyTerror> wingnut2626, SHIFT \
[03:03] <Skaperen> try UnholyTerror's sudo startx suggestion and see if you get X up and logged in that way
[03:03] <mike> hi
[03:03] <Northwoods> I'm new to ubuntu , to install a new software should i look some particular place ( like some repository ) ?
[03:03] <wingnut2626> thanks dude
[03:03] <Guest83473> what is script console used for
[03:03] <UnholyTerror> wingnut2626, you can't see it on any of the keys?
[03:04] <TheWarden> Skaperen: yeah smart move :)
[03:04] <wingnut2626> no the thing was the \ key has a vertical line with a space in it.  sorry i didnt know it wouldnt present like that when i typed |.  Rookie mistake!
[03:04] <TheWarden> UnholyTerror: okay I'll maybe try that
[03:05] <TheWarden> Well okay lets see if I get this in Ubuntu.... I could maybe do this if I understand things correctly.
[03:05] <UnholyTerror> wingnut2626, duh! ;)
[03:05] <Xintruder> anyone here knows any mod in #apple?
[03:05] <sutibu> Northwoods, Right off the main menu, Ubuntu Software Center.  You can also try 'sudo apt-get BLAH' from the terminal
[03:05] <TheWarden> I'm use to dealing with things in the shell not a GUI
[03:05] <UnholyTerror> wingnut2626, as you get older, that little space isn't as visible...
[03:06] <TheWarden> So there is a root account I would assume so if I logged into that in the shell then deleted the account in question and re-created a new one that should in theory correct the issue?
[03:06] <Skaperen> TheWarden: me, too ... there apparently are a number of GUI programmers who don't really understand the systems level
[03:06] <stealthc> anybody here know C at all?
[03:06] <TheWarden> Skaperen: well I'm not saying I'm an expert but the damn GUI just confuses the hell out of me.
[03:06] <Viking667> stealthc: not enough to help out.
[03:06] <abcd99> hey, where should i report a bug in libm library (ubuntu x86_64bit)? its a tan func performance bug "sin/cos" is dam 10 times faster than tan, from what i see other distributions like suse patch it themselfes
[03:06] <stealthc> I'm having troubles with pointers and cast
[03:06] <stealthc> trying to do something real simple
[03:07] <Skaperen> TheWarden: I have successfully created new accounts from root, with an empty home directory under their ownership, logging them in from GUI does work
[03:07] <stealthc> but keeps coming up with errors because stupid documentation doesn't define what the pointer really is and expects me to figure out how to change from one type to another
[03:07] <Xintruder> I am sorry I have to ask this here, where can I find a network operator to ask for help?
[03:07] <TheWarden> so I feel like a dumb ass asking this but since I never setup a root account during Ubuntu install that I know of what would be the password for it?
[03:07] <Skaperen> TheWarden: but to adhere to channel rules, I will not tell you how (to be root)
[03:07] <TheWarden> Skaperen: mm interesting
[03:07] <magicianlord> is there a 64 bit adobe flahs plugin that works with hulu.com?
[03:07] <Skaperen> TheWarden: if you know how to be root ... you are on your own ... no support here
[03:08] <histo> magicianlord: flash squared
[03:08] <IdleOne> !root | TheWarden
[03:08] <TheWarden> Skaperen: oh I see... not sure I understand that being that Root is the administrator and should be used as such.
[03:08] <Skaperen> magicianlord: experimental one
[03:08] <histo> magicianlord: let me check and make sure though
[03:08] <dzup21> wtf? this channel becomes crazy ...lol
[03:08] <UnholyTerror> TheWarden, it's your password.
[03:08] <magicianlord> i have 10.2 beta, and that doest work on hulu, but does on other sites
[03:08] <Fezzler> So I have the right driver - nvidia-173.  I have used it with compiz before.  Now Ubuntu starts in low graphics mode and I have no compiz
[03:09] <histo> magicianlord: i'm chekcing 10.2 right now.
[03:09] <TheWarden> UnholyTerror: oh okay
[03:09] <UnholyTerror> magicianlord, it's a HULUproblem, not FLASH
[03:09] <Fezzler> bad conf file setting?
[03:09] <Skaperen> Ubuntu installs with no access to root ... real root jockeys know ways to change that ... if you can't figure it out, root is no place for you to be
[03:09] <histo> magicianlord: actually i'm running 10.3
[03:09] <TheWarden> mm let me go try this out... have to go to the other computer upstairs :)
[03:09] <histo> magicianlord: works fine here
[03:09] <sutibu> XChat IRC on Ubuntu 10.10 crashes everytime I launch preferences and try and change background color - any ideas out there?
[03:09]  * Viking667 has to agree with Skaperen, somewhat.
[03:09] <stealthc> well I would go to the ##C channel but it doesn't explain how I can register to post on it
[03:10] <Viking667> !register
[03:10] <dzup21> ...is this a windows channel ?
[03:10] <detrix42> Hi. I have changed my password. now I need to change the password for my keyring. How do I do this?
[03:10] <Viking667> THAT bit I can help out with...
[03:10] <Fezzler> actually, nvidia-173 is active.  nvidia-current also shows installed
[03:10] <Viking667> dzup21: not intended to be
[03:10] <magicianlord> histo: 10.3 64 bit? where is it
[03:11] <Fezzler> If I get pulse audio working, jackd doesn't and visa versa.  Lucid has not been good for me
[03:11] <histo> magicianlord: it's no longer on their site it seems let me see if I can find it.
[03:11]  * Skaperen thinks he'l just go ahead and uninstall sun-java6 and try icedtea6 and see if that plugin works
[03:12] <histo> magicianlord: I have flash 10.3 d162 right now that i'm running
[03:13] <noname> hey
[03:13] <noname> what is script console in codeblocks used for?
[03:13] <noname> anyone knows
[03:13] <magicianlord> histo: thanks
[03:14] <histo> magicianlord: still trying to find it. I swear they used to have 64bit links on the labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ page
[03:14] <UnholyTerror> Guest89079, thankyou for changing your nick to something more unique.
[03:14] <magicianlord> histo: all i found there was 10.2 dated 11/17/10
[03:14] <magicianlord> or 11/30
[03:15] <detrix42> Hi. I have changed my password. now I need to change the password for my keyring. How do I do this?
[03:15] <creative-mike> does anyone know?
[03:15] <creative-mike> :(
[03:15] <histo> magicianlord: well i'm showing yeah 11/30/10 but there used to be a 64bit download which is gone at the moment
[03:16] <magicianlord> histo: adobe is so secretive
[03:16] <histo> magicianlord: I can upload the one i'm running somewhere hold up
[03:16] <magicianlord> ok, it's safE?
[03:17] <Morocco> Night here..
[03:18] <UnholyTerror> it's night time in Morocco?
[03:18] <histo> magicianlord: it's just a libflashplayer.so mine appears to be from 11/16/10
[03:18] <histo> UnholyTerror: yeah
[03:18] <magicianlord> hmm ok
[03:18] <Viking667> UnholyTerror: probably.
[03:18] <histo> UnholyTerror: well early morning
[03:18] <Viking667> 3:20 or so, I think
[03:19] <magicianlord> histo: <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:19] <UnholyTerror> it's night time here.
[03:19] <histo> magicianlord: ?
[03:19] <cablop> mmm, i got a new dosk for my netbook, and i want to increase the disk performance of the luks (encrypted) partitions... is this -c aes-ecb-null -s 128 a good combination? safe and good eprformance?
[03:19] <magicianlord> is that your version?
[03:19] <Viking667> sounds old
[03:20] <histo> magicianlord: no it's 10.3 d162
[03:20] <histo> magicianlord: http://wikisend.com/download/474512/libflashplayer.so
[03:20] <cablop> what are recommended encryption values for a netbook? is a 128 key size safe enough?
[03:21] <theadmin> histo, magicianlord: Why not just get it from Adobe's site? o.O
[03:21] <histo> theadmin: because it's not there anymore
[03:21] <histo> theadmin: I don't see the 64bit one
[03:21] <magicianlord> histo: thank you. i'll try it
[03:21] <magicianlord> theadmin: they only have 10.2 on adobe
[03:21] <magicianlord> which doesnt work with hulu
[03:22] <histo> magicianlord: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html  there is the official link
[03:22] <theadmin> histo: Ah, 64-bit... Sorry.
[03:22] <histo> theadmin: magicianlord they really were trying to hide that bugger
[03:22] <magicianlord> ok. what is 'square'?
[03:22] <luck> HELLO
[03:23] <theadmin> luck: No need to caps. Hello.
[03:23] <magicianlord> is something wrong with it
[03:23] <histo> magicianlord: its the beta preview 3 of flash
[03:23] <histo> magicianlord: that's the one i'm using and it works
[03:24] <magicianlord> ok. thank you.
[03:24] <magicianlord> bbl
[03:25] <TheWarden> okay I create a new account and rebooted the system.
[03:26] <TheWarden> With the new user account I was able to login via the GUI.
[03:26] <TheWarden> so this is good news.
[03:26] <Northwoods> before installing a software , what all do i need to know , like dependencies , repository etc , what is all that stuff , sorry i'm new
[03:27] <theadmin> TheWarden: It can narrow down the problem to your specific user account, altough I'm unsure what the problem is.
[03:27] <TheWarden> I guess to make it simpler I could create another account with sudo privileges and I think that's the only difference to replace my broken account that is like the manager account.
[03:27] <Northwoods> theadmin: ?
[03:27] <theadmin> Northwoods: Well, you said you were able to log in to GUI with the new account, meaning old one didn't work
[03:27] <Northwoods> :) no
[03:27] <theadmin> TheWarden: Don't worry, APT will handle that automagically.
[03:28] <Northwoods> i'm looking to install kvirc on ubuntu
[03:28] <k0d3g3ar> lotro
[03:28] <TheWarden> TheWarden: thanks I was to be honest directly this at Skaperen and UnholyTerror to be honest.
[03:28] <TheWarden> theadmin: APT? Ahh so you are saying that I can just toast my main account that I had issues with it and APT with handle the rest ??
[03:28] <Skaperen> TheWarden: I hate GUI programmers ... I went to the Firefox plugin manager ... scrolling down does not scroll down ... instead it picks a plugin at random, jumping around as it goes
[03:29] <theadmin> Northwoods: Well, open Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center and search there, OR open Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal and type this in: sudo apt-get install kvirc
[03:29] <TheWarden> Skaperen: oh man annnonying
[03:29] <Northwoods> TheWarden: thanks i was to be honestly directly this at sheakspear
[03:29] <Skaperen> TheWarden: that and neither Java plugin works
[03:29] <TheWarden> Skaperen: strange
[03:29] <Skaperen> TheWarden: and this is on a 32-bit install ... which should have the best availability of working stuff
[03:29] <TheWarden> Northwoods: :-s
[03:30] <cablop> is a key size of size 128 easy to break?
[03:30] <TheWarden> Skaperen: no kdding
[03:30] <theadmin> cablop: No, it's pretty secure. I have my HD encrypted with that keysize.
[03:30] <histo> cablop: what a wep key?
[03:30] <bazhang> cablop, not really on topic here
[03:30] <Skaperen> TheWarden: ironically, Java works on my desktop at work (10.10 amd64)
[03:30] <Northwoods> s/Skaperen/Sheakspear
[03:30] <theadmin> cablop: And yeah, gotta admit bazhang is right. Please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:31] <Skaperen> Northwoods: eh?
[03:31] <histo> Skaperen: enable the partner repo and install sun-java6-plugin
[03:31] <theadmin> (or what was the channel?)
[03:31] <Northwoods> theadmin: mind answering me ?
[03:31] <histo> !partner | Skaperen
[03:31] <TheWarden> Am I right though that the main user account created a Ubuntu install is granted sudo permissions other wise the rest of the account is like any other if just created as a standard account with no added permissions or ownerships?
[03:31] <cablop> bazhang, yes, on topic, i was about to install ubuntu again in my netbook and i want the best combination of security vs performance for it
[03:31] <Skaperen> histo: BTDT
[03:31] <Skaperen> histo: that was the first one that didn't work
[03:31] <TheWarden> Skaperen: I have Java working fine on this system and it's 32-bit :)
[03:31] <theadmin> Northwoods: Mind repeating what you said? Mighta skipped it
[03:31] <cablop> histo, not, a key for disk encryption
[03:31] <histo> theadmin: correct it's part of the admin group is the only thing extra
[03:31] <histo> cablop: yeah that's fine
[03:31] <magicianlord> histo: it works. thanks
[03:32] <histo> TheWarden: yeah it's only addition is part of the admin group
[03:32] <TheWarden> Oh ops sorry histo I meant those messages towards you too.. didn't mean to excluded you. Thanks for helping.
[03:32] <Northwoods> theadmin: I want to install kvirc on ubuntu , i'm new , when installing a software , should i look into some repository or something and what are dependencies ?
[03:32] <cablop> theadmin thanks... do you know if choosing this will be ok for a netbook? -c aes-ecb-null -s 128
[03:32] <shijie> i encountered a failure with ubuntu 10.10 installation, can anybody offer a hand?
[03:32] <theadmin> Northwoods: As I said, APT handles dependencies automatically. Open Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center and search for your software there.
[03:32] <cablop> what error shijie
[03:32] <Skaperen> histo: Firefox is simply not seeing the plugin at all ... it's like this Firefox was coded to ignore all Java plugins (I'm sure it isn't, just explaining the appearance)
[03:33] <TheWarden> histo: ahh okay so I should be able to just create another account with sudo permissions and apart of the admin group and all should be good. On the other hand in theory one would think I could go into my home directory and delete it all then
[03:33] <shijie> with GT415
[03:33] <Northwoods> oh thankyou so much theadmin
[03:33] <shijie> I am using Acer 4741G
[03:33] <TheWarden> histo: login via the GUI and it should work.
[03:33] <theadmin> Northwoods: Dependencies are... okay... it's kinda like... say, to play a CD you'd need a CD-ROM. Thus, CD-ROM is a dependency of a CD. Kinda like that.
[03:33] <shijie> and i just can't install my driver
[03:33] <Skaperen> histo: so I uninstalled sun-java6-plugin and its friends, and installed icetea6-plugin instead ... still no joy
[03:33] <histo> TheWarden: yeah you can create another account and just add them to admin group and it would be the same as the install does.
[03:33] <Northwoods> theadmin: gotcha
[03:33] <cablop> shijie, what driver?
[03:33] <mantissa> anyone here know how to use Nautilus Actions Configuration Tool? trying to do a "extract here" menu button for  xarchiver but it is not working
[03:33] <Northwoods> thankyou , i love learning this OS
[03:34] <Northwoods> its pretty faster than windows
[03:34] <shijie> recommended video driver
[03:34] <shijie> once I did, the computer freeze upon starting
[03:34] <cablop> much much faster, and the 10.10 is really really energy saving
[03:34] <cablop> Northwoods:
[03:34] <TheWarden> histo: ahh okay perfect but I still have to grant sudo permissions right or does the admin group do that in Ubuntu?
[03:34] <UnholyTerror> mantissa, doesn't the xarchiver already do that?
[03:35] <shijie> and there is a message "Unable to detect WMID device"
[03:35] <Skaperen> I may re-install to 10.04.1 and see if Firefox finds the plugin in that one
[03:35] <magicianlord> oh this is interesting. so installing nvidia driver from within ubuntu adds a nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf file to modprobe.d directory, banning nouveau. instead of to blacklist.conf. is there a difference between doing it one way vs other?
[03:35] <mantissa> nope archive manager does nut not xarchiver
[03:35] <balt11t> hi
[03:35] <shijie> and there is a message "Unable to detect WMID device" error
[03:35] <cablop> theadmin: sorry to keep on the topic, but i don't want to keep stuck at this point of the installation
[03:35] <histo> TheWarden: yeah that's what the admin group is.
[03:35] <theadmin> cablop: Well, as I said 128-bit should be pretty secure.
[03:36] <TheWarden> histo: oh okay, great. Thanks.
[03:36] <histo> theadmin: if you run visudo you'll see that any one in the admin group gets sudo abilities
[03:36] <cablop> ok, theadmin thanks
[03:36] <shijie> to <cablop> :hello,and there is a message "Unable to detect WMID device" error
[03:36] <shijie> i tried ubuntu 10.04/10.10,
[03:36] <theadmin> histo: Uh... I know about /etc/sudoers :D Why are you telling me that?
[03:36] <shijie> but all encountered this same error
[03:37] <mantissa> fileroller i mean for the extract here context menu button but I want to use "extract here" with xarchiver
[03:38] <mantissa> i got the custom menu command to appear but running it produces segfault for xarchiver  with command xarchiver -x %d %f
[03:38] <cablop> shijie: do a install with a default driver, after that you have three options, install the driver from the repositories through the gui tool for that or grab a driver from the hardware maker or try to find a driver from a third party (probably open source compatble)... is it a nVidia card?
[03:38] <shijie> hello,can anybody help me with "Unable to detect WMID device" error
[03:38] <shijie> ??
[03:38] <Northwoods> cablop:  where can i learn keyboard shortcuts for things , like switch between different desktops ( 4 of them are avaialble i think )
[03:38] <histo> theadmin: sorry wrong person
[03:38] <histo> TheWarden: i was trying to tell you about visudo if you look above I messaged theadmin by mistake
[03:38] <shijie> yes
[03:39] <randomOfAmber> has anyone gotten 2 finger scrolling to work with the magic pad (apple)?  Mine's recognized as a tablet, and so doesn't support that when enabled in mouse preferences
[03:39] <UnholyTerror> Northwoods, CTRL-ALT-ARROW
[03:39] <Northwoods> theadmin:  where can i learn keyboard shortcuts for things , like switch between different desktops ( 4 of them are avaialble i think )
[03:39] <shijie> i installed the default driver, it did not work either
[03:39] <Northwoods> oh sorry
[03:39] <Northwoods> thanks people
[03:39] <theadmin> Northwoods: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. You can see a full list there and even add custom ones.
[03:39] <shijie> when no video driver installed ,the resolution fixed in 800*600
[03:39] <shishir> hey i need help
[03:39] <cablop> Northwoods: it depends on many many things, like in windows, it depends in what you are running at the same time, but  for desktop things you can check the window manager, if you use compiz i recommend you to install the compiz fusion icon and right clic it then go to general and check aaaallll of them... but as a simple rule, ctrl+alt + left|right key do the trick for the workspaces switch
[03:40] <magicianlord> shijie: what?
[03:40] <shijie> could you tell me why there is a WMID error
[03:40] <shijie> ?
[03:40] <shijie> unable to detect WMID device ERROR
[03:40] <cablop> shijie? is that an nVidia one?
[03:40] <Northwoods> cablop: should i look for compiz fusion icon in software application center ?
[03:40] <shijie> yes
[03:40] <shishir> i unfortunately removed the shut down icon from panel now the shut down ,restart, lockscreen all of them gone . how can i restore that  icon?
[03:41] <shijie> nvidia GT415
[03:41] <cablop> yep, Northwoods
[03:41] <Northwoods> besides software applicatin ceenter seems to be little slow
[03:41] <magicianlord> shijie: what is your problem?
[03:41] <cablop> shijie, before install any nVidia restricted driver it is higfhly recommended to uninstall the nouveau driver that cames by default on ubuntu, i don't remember the package
[03:41] <UnholyTerror> shishir, right-click->add to panel
[03:42] <cablop> !nvidia > shijie
[03:42] <shijie> I also encountered a "unable to detect WMID device" error,
[03:42] <Northwoods> it is taking lot of time to download kvirc
[03:42] <cablop> lol
[03:42] <shijie> i just can't fixed it
[03:42] <cablop> !nvidia | shijie
[03:42] <theadmin> Northwoods: Well, it's most likely a connection issue
[03:42] <cablop> shijie, be careful it is a pretty old howto, but you can find the steps there, in few words, remove the nouveau driver then install the nVidia one
[03:43] <shijie> but,where does the "WMID device" error come from
[03:43] <Spaztic_One> Having problems with a 2nd gen ipod nano on maverick. lsusb doesn't show it when it is plugged in, but my ipod does charge.
[03:43] <shishir> UnholyTerror i did that but individual options are coming i want previous list type option in which when i click to option whole list comes showing all options
[03:43] <shijie> ok,i will try
[03:43] <UnholyTerror> Northwoods, Software Center is just a different front end to the same package installation programs.
[03:43] <shijie> but,where does the "WMID device" error come from?
[03:43] <shijie> I just can't explain that
[03:44] <cablop> Northwoods: i use chatzilla... i like it because it is the same tool for win and linux and i can hold a copy on my portableapps collection :P
[03:44] <Northwoods> theadmin: but i have 1 mbps line , i hope the file size is not too large , because it installed only 14%
[03:44] <cablop> shijie, that error can come from a multitude of sources...
[03:44] <Northwoods> portableapps collection , what is that cablop ?
[03:44] <UnholyTerror> shishir, right-click->add to panel->Shut down
[03:44] <Northwoods> do you mean you carry over some apps from one os to another ?
[03:45] <TheWarden> okay I have another problem that is driving me nuts with Ubuntu in the X Window
[03:45] <histo> Northwoods: yeah it's apps you put on a usb drive that are portable. They even work well under wine in linux
[03:45] <histo> TheWarden: what's that?
[03:46] <theadmin> Northwoods: Well, that's actually more like 28% cause it only downloads till 50%, then it starts installing.
[03:46] <cablop> Northwoods: it is a collection of portable applications for USB, they don't modify nor write on the computer you use them... combined with a portable truecrypt you can have a safe set of applications to use on windows in any computer... they're mainly open source... no moe on the topic, cause it is OT, but in few words it is a prettty nice complement for any linux geek forced to live in windows
[03:46] <Northwoods> histo: do we have to create some pacakage or what , where can i read about it ?
[03:46] <TheWarden> One has I believe 4 virtual desktops created. Now each desktop is a viewing area that can be the resolution set or beyond your resolution. Does this make sense before I continue?
[03:46] <shishir> unholyterror  i did that and option is visible on panel but i want one icon which contains all the option like shutdown ,restart , lockscreen  just like previously how can i do  so ?
[03:46] <Northwoods> cablop: thanks
[03:46] <TheWarden> when I say viewing area I'm not talking about the monitor resolution.
[03:47] <TheWarden> view area or desktop size not sure what the proper term is
[03:48] <UnholyTerror> shishir, right-click->add to panel->Indicator Applet
[03:48] <TheWarden> If that makes sense, I'll continue the viewing area or desktop size for some reason is beyond the size of the monitor resolution. how do I make them the same? Keep in mind in my case here I'm using a CRT TV as my monitor.
[03:48] <shijie> many acer 4741G nvidia GT415M users encountered this problem, it might be a kernel bug
[03:48] <UnholyTerror> shishir, right-click->add to panel->Indicator Applet session
[03:49] <shishir> unholyterror done thanx
[03:49] <cablop> TheWarden: try in system>Preferences>onitors to check the best settiongs for your screen resolution and configuration
[03:50] <cablop> shijie i forgot to tell you, check if you have the proper linux headers for your current kernel, some drivers seems unaware to check for them
[03:50] <TheWarden> cablop: I can't do that as I'm using the NVIDIA drivers. Also I'm in no way referring to the resolution size the monitor is using.
[03:50] <histo> Northwoods: google portable apps
[03:50] <Spaztic_One> Having problems with a 2nd gen ipod nano on maverick. it doesn't show up when plugged in and lsusb doesn't show it either, but my ipod does charge. Tried all 3 usb ports on my laptop (even though lsusb shows that I have 8 busses (?), with bus one having 2 devices, one being my built in card reader)
[03:50] <shijie> ok
[03:50] <shijie> thanks
[03:50] <cablop> TheWarden: i used the driver from the nvidia website and i can use that tool for that
[03:51] <TheWarden> One can have a monitor resolution and then a separate dimensions of each virtual desktop viewing area.
[03:51] <cablop> shijie, also install the dkms package
[03:51] <shijie> ok
[03:51] <TheWarden> cablop: well I can't it says I have to use the NVIDIA tool as I'm not using a regular monitor its a CRT TV. Why it says I can't I do not know.
[03:52] <cablop> TheWarden: ah! mmm but in my opinion, first check if you can play with the monitor via that tool, in that way you check that your linux and the monitor are understanding each other
[03:52] <TheWarden> argh so hard to explain when some many people don't do this anymore. It can be handle to have the viewing area bigger but in this case its a pain cause you can't see the mouse.
[03:52] <cablop> after that, then go and enable or install the nvidia-settings tool
[03:52] <Senix> ok
[03:53] <Senix> I have ./folder saved in my home drive
[03:53] <Senix> how do i get to it and copy something from it?
[03:53] <TheWarden> cablop: well I've looked in there and all there is a monitor resolution setting. Nothing more that refers to size of virtual desktop/viewing area.
[03:54] <TheWarden> cablop: I can't let me get the message it tells me when I try to use the monitors. Plus even if I do use that tool it doesn't provide what I'm talking about. It again only allows one to set the monitor resolution used.
[03:54] <shijie> hi,cablop, I just wonder what if I install early versions,just like 9.10/9.04,see if it works without WMID error
[03:54] <cablop> TheWarden: mmm i get the point... but... isn't an odd combination a CRT TV with an accelerated graphics video card?... :)
[03:54] <magicianlord> shijie: i saw a fix for that earlier
[03:55] <balt11t> My computer was a lot faster running Arch with KDE, but I don't know why
[03:55] <shijie> what u mean
[03:55] <magicianlord> balt11t: arch is faster
[03:55] <shijie> earlier versions
[03:55] <dotblank> Senix, a fodler with a '.' as a prefix is considered hidden you can use the sortcut ctrl+h to reveal it
[03:55] <cablop> shijie many many many things changed from 10.04, this is why, once you find the new way you'll be happy with ubuntu again :)
[03:55] <theadmin> balt11t: Well, duh, Ubuntu is slower.
[03:55] <balt11t> magicianlord: drastically though
[03:55] <shijie> or there is a earlier solution
[03:55] <balt11t> I have 4gb of RAM
[03:55] <Senix> dotblank, thanks
[03:55] <magicianlord> balt11t: because ubuntu has lots of modules it installs that make it crawl
[03:55] <balt11t> and I'm barely pulling minecraft off
[03:56] <shijie> you mean 9.10 doesn't have a problem like that,right?
[03:56] <magicianlord> i run arch on my netbooks
[03:56] <balt11t> Maybe it's because I'm doing a huge sysupgrade too
[03:56]  * theadmin runs OpenSuSE and is happy with it
[03:56] <shijie> and 10.04 getchanged but some new bugs jumped out
[03:56] <magicianlord> balt11t: maybe. no computer janitor?
[03:56] <cablop> shijie, dunno, i didn't used 9.10... for me 9.10 seems to be a transition between 8.x-9x to 10.x
[03:57] <Northwoods>  what is the firefox addon for viewing compatibility with I.E. ,  like virtually render page like I.E.8
[03:57] <dotblank> magicianlord, modules get auto-detected (I thought)  usually.. at least thats what I thought.. it may be the mdoule built into the kernel that slows it down
[03:57] <magicianlord> balt11t: also, i partition sometimes into multiple areas, which makes things faster
[03:57] <shijie> ok,i will try.
[03:57] <Northwoods> cablop: like if we want to see the page in I.E.
[03:57] <magicianlord> dtownhero: not sure
[03:57] <shijie> thanks anyway,to cablop & magicianlord
[03:58] <shijie> i am newbie, so i am unfamiliar with linux..
[03:58] <cablop> Northwoods: no way to do that... sadly, maybe you mean the IETab but you need a real IE in your system making it only suitable for windows and certain macs... grab a virtualbox (or anything like that) and run windows on it for those tests
[03:58] <balt11t> computer janitor?
[03:58] <theadmin> Northwoods: Or run IE trough WINE.
[03:59] <TheWarden> cablop: yes okay here is the message
[03:59] <cablop> mmm shijie, then... ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 are much much easier than 9.04 and earlier... sadly for that bug
[03:59] <Northwoods> theadmin: WINE ?
[03:59] <theadmin> Northwoods: It's a thing to run Windows programs. See http://winehq.org
[03:59] <dotblank> !wine
[03:59] <lotec> VB is so easy,  just need a few gigs of space
[03:59] <chris_osx> magicianlord: is arch notably faster than ubuntu on a netbook?
[03:59] <cablop> theadmin: Northwoods but to trun IE8 in WINE is a hadra task... isn't it?
[03:59] <TheWarden> cablop: when I run "Monitors" I receive this message, "It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool. Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?
[03:59] <TheWarden> ops end quote :)
[04:00] <bonjoyee> Northwoods: are u wondering about "useragent switcher"? ...it makes the website believe you are running another browser!
[04:00] <cablop> TheWarden: oh! never saw that before... then install the nvidia tool for that, i just used it once
[04:00] <dotblank> TheWarden, see if you can run the command xrandr
[04:00] <Northwoods> bonjoyee: My purpose is to test/veiw site in I.E. , because clients ask for it
[04:00] <TheWarden> cablop: Like I was saying I checked again and there is no way to change the setting I'm referring to in Monitors anyways. It only has monitor resolution nothing much more then that.
[04:01] <TheWarden> cablop: I have it installed and that doesn't have what I'm talking about either :(
[04:01] <dotblank> You may be able to manipulate the screen with that providing your driver has a working randr implementation
[04:01] <bonjoyee> Northwoods: then...vbox or wine are your best options!!
[04:01] <cablop> Northwoods: then use a real windows, in another pc or a virtual machine and install IETester or IECollection, this is the safest one, because you need to use the IE engine
[04:01] <TheWarden> dotblank: I can and I have to actually setup my S-Video
[04:01] <dotblank> TheWarden, What gfx card do you have?
[04:01] <TheWarden> maybe what I'm looking for is only in the xorg.conf file... mm
[04:02] <TheWarden> dotblank: it's a PNY Verto GeForce 6200 AGP
[04:02] <dotblank> TheWarden, ok have you tried using nvidia's config tool?
[04:02] <dotblank> nvidia-settings
[04:02] <TheWarden> doyou cablop  or dotblank no what I'm referring to (not monitor resolution)?
[04:02] <cablop> TheWarden: you are right, virtual size desktop is a pretty old feature i see years ago... in fact in the last century, xD
[04:02] <TheWarden> dotblank: yes no option in there to do what I'm talking about.
[04:03] <balt11t> Now we're in business
[04:03] <magicianlord> chris_osx: yes
[04:03] <dotblank> TheWarden, sounds like you are going to have to play around with the xconfig
[04:03] <magicianlord> chris_osx: with openbox and fstab tweaking
[04:03] <TheWarden> cablop: well lol that is what I'm talking about... the size of it is bigger then my monitor
[04:03] <Xintruder> Question: Does any Ubuntu user here perfer Ubuntu over Apple?
[04:03] <cablop> TheWarden: afaik it was in the xserver previous to xorg... i forgtot the name... sigh
[04:03] <Xintruder> I mean Apple O/s
[04:03] <dotblank> TheWarden, ah.. its because your set size is larger then the svideo resolution
[04:03] <magicianlord> Xintruder: yes
[04:04] <TheWarden> dotblank: yeah I'll look again but I have no idea what its called.. hell I'm not even sure I have you or cablop convinced of what I'm talking about :)
[04:04] <bazhang> Xintruder, offtopic here
[04:04] <dotblank> which I belive is limited to standard def
[04:04] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for that Xintruder
[04:04] <Xintruder> thx
[04:04] <dotblank> TheWarden, do you want your monitor to scale instead of scrool?
[04:04] <dotblank> scroll
[04:04] <TheWarden> dotblank: actually no that is not true as s-video is designed to handle 800x600 and my monitor resolution is set to that already.
[04:04] <Fraxtil> Is there a command that lists the names of all available displays?
[04:05] <cablop> TheWarden: let me think... suppose you have a monitor capable to only 640x480 resolution but yuou use 1024x768 on it and whn you push the pointer to the edge of the screen it "scrolls" to that portion of sesktop... right?
[04:05] <Random832> s-video can handoe 800x600?
[04:05] <Random832> handle
[04:05] <histo> Random832: yes
[04:05] <jadams> My microphone just stopped working in ubuntu (was using my webcam mic, but neither it nor my line in mic will work now)
[04:05] <dotblank> TheWarden, hmm really.. ok well the nvidia driver may not support that and thats why it may be forcing the scroll.. perhaps you could look at the edid information or what resolution the nvidia card "thinks" the max res is
[04:06] <TheWarden> dotblank: well yes but this goes WAY beyond my screen. I can make the mouse or even windows disappear yet be visible in my virtual desktop area in the bottom right hand corner.
[04:06] <lei__> 奇怪了,用pidgon连不上irc用xchat就连上了
[04:06] <cablop> !zh lei__
[04:06] <bazhang> lei__, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[04:06] <TheWarden> dotblank: also to be clear there is no scrolling.
[04:06] <cablop> !zh | lei__
[04:06] <theadmin> lei__: This channel is English.
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> the tv out on pc's can down convert higher res to what the tv can handle. but i do think svideo is 800x600 max. been a whild since i last messed with it
[04:06] <dotblank> Well it may be that svideo can handle it but what does the nvidia driver handle
[04:07] <cablop> lei__: try sunpinyin and ibus-sunpinyin
[04:07] <TheWarden> Dr_Willis: yes you are correct. I've looked into the standard already and it is 800x600.
[04:07] <TheWarden> It's my virtual desktop or viewing area of the desktop that is larger then 800x600
[04:07] <cablop> lei__: also install ibus-qt4
[04:08] <dotblank> TheWarden, ok. Can I see your xorg.conf?
[04:08] <dotblank> !pastebin
[04:08] <magicianlord> what's the difference between xorg 1.7.6 in 10.04 and 1.9 in 10.10
[04:10] <callaghan> any1 here tried to install vbox on Jaunty 9.04 recently?
[04:10] <callaghan> it appears busted
[04:10] <callaghan> http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10279765#post10279765
[04:10] <AegNuddel> My system tells my it is running Natty.  Some repositories I would like to use only go up to Lucid.
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> theres a lot of updates to input devices and things in 1.9 i recall magicianlord  - touchpad/touchscreen support was a big area of devlopment
[04:10] <AegNuddel> So when I add the line to my sources
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> AegNuddel:  natty is in 'testing' stages; so thats not supruiseing. using differnet version repos .. is not a good idea
[04:11] <callaghan> AegNuddel: have you tried just keeping the "Lucid" entry for your source entries?
[04:11] <callaghan> (it might not be a "good idea", but sometimes it will work)
[04:11] <AegNuddel> I haven't tried anything yet
[04:11] <AegNuddel> so just keep it
[04:11] <AegNuddel> ok
[04:11] <callaghan> i.e. if you have repos that aren't up-to-date with the latest rel of ubuntu, i've had success leaving the older entries
[04:11] <magicianlord> Dr_Willis: so xorg is not just about window placement. its for input devices
[04:11] <lotec> anyone sugest a decent p4 based laptop?
[04:12] <AegNuddel> It was weird.  I didn't update on purpose
[04:12] <magicianlord> p4?
[04:12] <AegNuddel> at all
[04:12] <histo> magicianlord: right you window manager handles placement
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> magicianlord:  Xorg is the 'foundataion' for the whole GUI. the 'window manager' runs on top of Xorg. that handles the windows decorations and 'functions'
[04:12] <callaghan> AegNuddel: what do you mean? -- oh it upgraded distro and you didn't expect it?
[04:12] <rinku_kokiri> anyone know how to fix the "my mouse buttons 6 and 7 no longer work" problem?
[04:12] <cablop> sigh... my partition got stuck, had to restart instal :(
[04:12] <AegNuddel> yes
[04:12] <Spaztic_One> Having problems with a 2nd gen ipod nano on maverick. it doesn't show up when plugged in and lsusb doesn't show it either, but my ipod does charge. Tried all 3 usb ports on my laptop (even though lsusb shows that I have 8 busses (?), with bus one having 2 devices, one being my built in card reader)
[04:12] <callaghan> unfortunte... that shouldn't happen
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> AegNuddel:  you somehow set it to updage to the next release. and it did so.
[04:12] <callaghan> it's in the update manager settings
[04:13] <callaghan> (in there, you can configure if it will prompt for updating distro or not)
[04:13] <chris_osx> should i upgrade to maverick? i use lynx and everything runs fine. are there big improvements in maverick?
[04:13] <histo> !ipod | Spaztic_One
[04:13] <AegNuddel> it seems to work fine.  I was testing some other features that I could not otherwise get
[04:13] <rinku_kokiri> hei all, my mouse buttons 6 and 7 stopped working in opera today, anyone know a fix?
[04:13] <dotblank> Spaztic_One, does dmesg show anything when plugged in?
[04:13] <Skaperen> has anyone tried combining ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu desktop systems all on one machine?  I'm curious what methods it has to allow users to choose which type of desktop
[04:13] <callaghan> yeah in there it's called "Release Updates"
[04:14] <callaghan> Skaperen, you mean multi-boot?
[04:14] <bazhang> Skaperen, sure
[04:14] <dotblank> Skaperen, very possible.. you can install packages and WM from either
[04:14] <Skaperen> callaghan: nope
[04:14] <bazhang> Skaperen, all the -desktop
[04:14] <Skaperen> dotblank: I know I can ... I haven't yet because I want some better idea of what will happen before I do
[04:14] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, yes
[04:14] <bazhang> Skaperen, choose from login window
[04:14] <royale1223> I've tried ubuntu + kubuntu
[04:14] <rinku_kokiri> anyone know how to fix my mouse issue??  buttons 6 7 (middle click left and right) quit working
[04:15] <dotblank> I wodner what login manager he would get though
[04:15] <TheWarden> dotblank: Well unfortunately I have to go. I'll post it soon to see if one can resolve this issue of mine. Thanks so much for your help.
[04:15] <royale1223> But not 3
[04:15] <dotblank> wonder*
[04:15] <Skaperen> bazhang: so at the login window it will have all the desktops to choose from?
[04:15] <theadmin> dotblank: He'd get to select during the install.
[04:15] <TheWarden> cablop: thanks for your help too
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  the login manager lets you select what desktop to use - it all works. but it can cause some odd quirks/issues. like lots of redundant menu items, or other extra programs you may not need.
[04:15] <dotblank> also pulse/phonon may act odd
[04:15] <lotec> i have been looking at like a Compaq V2000
[04:15] <TheWarden> Merry Christmas and take care all. ttyl
[04:15] <Spaztic_One> dotblank: dmesg shows a lot of stuff. I glanced through it and nothing jumped out at me
[04:16] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, the most obvious thing you will notice is all the menus get full of all the programs from all the desktops.
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  and some times with gnome/xfce/kde - some default file applicaitons can get running for example the kde app. when in gnome. which may not be what you want
[04:16] <cablop> ok! merry Xmas to you too
[04:16] <dotblank> Spaztic_One, do dmesg | tail
[04:16] <Skaperen> Dr_Willis: that happens if you switch between on a user logging in?  Or even if a single user stays with one desktop always?
[04:16] <dotblank> Spaztic_One, before and after you plug it in
[04:16] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, but you can edit the menus to show just what you want, anyway.
[04:16] <balt11t> Is there teamspeak 3 for ubuntu
[04:16] <family> Question: i just installed ubuntu 10.10 on my mac (ppc) and it wouldnt install for a while, until finally i tried putting in "live video=ofonly" at the boot screen and it worked all good.  the only problem is that everything is tinted blue. how do i solve this?
[04:16] <balt11t> the one in the repositoris is TS2
[04:17] <Spaztic_One> dotblank: they are identical
[04:17] <dotblank> Spaztic_One, try a different usb port
[04:17] <collin_> Hello
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  gdm has a menu to select.. thats it... switch or not .. all you want
[04:17] <dotblank> Spaztic_One, like on the back
[04:17] <collin_> Could someone help me get my internal mic running?
[04:17] <family> me too
[04:18] <rinku_kokiri> could someone help me correct my mouse issue?  minor annoyance
[04:18] <Spaztic_One> dotblank: tried all 3 that my laptop has, none resulted in a new message
[04:18] <dotblank> Spaztic_One, does it work on any other OS/s or have you tried completely restarting your ipod and computer./
[04:18] <bonjoyee> collin_: tried alsamixer?
[04:19] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: one thing I was thinking of trying to do, which I have not seen anyone do, yet, is have 3 linux/lxc containers, one for each of ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu, and (figure out how to) rig up a way to get a logging in user placed into the appropriate container (which X and the login prompt are in the main system)
[04:19] <bonjoyee> !alsamixer | collin_
[04:19] <family> whats alsa mixer
[04:19] <dotblank> !alsamixer
[04:19] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: that way users have a choice, but will see a system that has "only" their choice
[04:19] <dotblank> hmm
[04:19] <collin_> I have tried alsa mixer
[04:20] <collin_> I dont belive alsa will solve my problem
[04:20] <collin_> Im thinking oss
[04:20] <Spaztic_One> dotblank: Haven't tried it on any other computer yet. my sister gave me her old one and she hadn't used it in ages (since she got her droid phone). Also, haven't restarted my computer, and don't know how to restart an ipod
[04:20] <dotblank> collin_, what is your pulseaudio profile?
[04:20] <balt11t> Is it possible to install windows after ubuntu?
[04:20] <dotblank> in  sound preferences
[04:20] <histo> collin_: right click on the volume icon and go to sound preferences. Then go to the input tab. and change hte mic
[04:20] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, um, it should default to whatever they pick the first time. I do believe. They won't need to choose everytime.
[04:20] <histo> balt11t: yes anything is possible.
[04:20] <Skaperen> balt11t: yes ... let's hope windows will cooperate and not take out ubuntu
[04:20] <royale1223> Balt11t: yep
[04:21] <histo> balt11t: just be prepaired that windows will blow out your mbr.  You'll have to boot a ubuntu cd later and reinstall grub
[04:21] <collin_> I no longer have alsa. Im using oss so I dont have sound pref
[04:21] <dotblank> collin_, you may also need to check the hardware tab as well and select the correct profile
[04:21] <balt11t> kk
[04:21] <dotblank> collin_, hmm don't know oss
[04:21] <dotblank> so...
[04:21] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: default is good ... I'd just want to avoid the issue of some app setting itself up in conflict when different logins have different choices
[04:22] <collin_> dotblank , Have you had a mic problem before?
[04:22] <dotblank> collin_, well I've had misconfiguration issues.. I use a lot of digital audio too though
[04:22] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: what I did in the past when Slackware had both Gnome and KDE, was different users for different desktops, but with the same uid number
[04:22] <dotblank> collin_, I also use jack
[04:23] <rinku_kokiri> can anyone help me?  i have a small annoyance.  My middle mouse button won't do back or forward anymore
[04:23] <collin_> dotblank ,Ok well I have searched many forums and most say that using alsa wont be able to solve my problem
[04:23] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: hopefully Ubuntu will have no issue with 2 or 3 users having the same uid number
[04:23] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, i'm not sure what you mean... the uid doesn't change based on wich desktop you log into.
[04:24] <balt11t> :O
[04:24] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, you have absolutely lost me.
[04:24] <dotblank> net split :(
[04:24] <dotblank> the scow storm has killed the eastern seeboard
[04:24] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: I know that ... the different userNAME's ... and hence different HOMEs, was my first hack under Slackware in the past
[04:24] <dotblank> snow*
[04:24] <dotblank> Skaperen, you can specify a custom home for users
[04:24] <rinku_kokiri> sno storm?
[04:24] <dotblank> doesn't have to be by username
[04:24]  * rinku_kokiri looks outside
[04:24] <cablop> Skaperen: what are you trying to do?
[04:25] <rinku_kokiri> hrm...
[04:25] <dotblank> rinku_kokiri, where are you located?
[04:25] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, I just don't understand why you need to do that.
[04:25] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: the hack in the past was like:  login as "userg" and get Gnome, or login as "userk" and get KDE ... where the ${HOME} directories were different ... but the uid numbers were the same so that user could access files between userg and userk very simply
[04:26] <Skaperen> cablop: get ubuntu and kubuntu and xubuntu working so a user can login under any one of them and have it work smoothly
[04:26] <rs0832> Skaperen, afaik uuid's are unique names given to your hd's
[04:26] <dotblank> Skaperen, you could just let gdm handle the sessions... you can set a default one
[04:26] <balt11t> How do I configure a mic in Ubuntu
[04:26] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, ok,  but why make it so hard?
[04:26] <dotblank> also you can have default sessions differening between users