[05:44] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[05:44] <mattyv> kraypius: Ah, not sure how good mike support is in Ubuntu, although my built-in one works too
[05:44] <Pollywog> bad and ugly?  I think that is what my mother called me
[05:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> !proftpd
[05:44] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[05:44] <BeepAU> i bought a laptop which came with a nvidia mcp51 chipset which I can't get sound to work with anything linux. could someone guide me as to how to get sound working in ubuntu?
[05:45] <Pollywog> BeepAU: have you Googled for it?
[05:45] <Netham45> BeepAU: Noone knows, stop pasting the same thing over and over and over.
[05:45] <Bohica032> can anyone spare some time?   I'm total green horn to ubuntu... just installed it 20 min ago.  Need help/advice.
[05:45] <kraypius> hrm. when i plug in my mic it turns off the monitor mics but i cant hear my plugged in mic
[05:45] <BeepAU> loads. i've beeen trying to fix it for like a week
[05:45] <Pollywog> BeepAU: use Google Linux and you might find that card listed
[05:45] <Pollywog> oic
[05:45] <Netham45> Bohica032: about what?
[05:46] <Bohica032> got so many questions
[05:46] <Netham45> well
[05:46] <Netham45> Im rather new to ubuntu
[05:46] <kingcobra> how do i import a firefox profile from windows
[05:46] <montyp> QsM`, type "gksudo xvncviewer" to get the viewer up on the client machine
[05:46] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_ which one's are they exactly? i installed the ones that are just called "bad" and "ugly" but there are others called "bad-dbg" and "bad-doc" and the same for the "ugly" packages
[05:46] <Netham45> about 2 weeks on the desktop, had the server for about 2 months.
[05:46] <asc> Bohica032: This channel works better when you just ask.
[05:47] <Bohica032> got the desktop 6 version, can I use it as a web server after installing Appchie, PHP and MySQL?
[05:47] <Netham45> Bohica032: ask some questions. someone may know.
[05:47] <Netham45> yes.
[05:47] <kingcobra> asc im asking but not getting response
[05:47] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: you don't need the -dbg and -doc. i'm not sure what's wrong
[05:47] <Flannel> Bohica032: yep.  There's no difference between a desktop and server machine
[05:47] <mattyv> kraypius: That's something I guess, try looking at the command "dmesg | tail" straight after you plug it in...don't paste the output here though
[05:47] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Migrating_settings_to_a_new_profile
[05:47] <Netham45> Flannel: not true, Desktop has a GUI
[05:47] <kingcobra> asc its ok :)
[05:48] <asc> kingcobra: Righto.
[05:48] <montyp> Netham45, exactly what makes Windows not a server :)
[05:48] <jessid> hi!
[05:48] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: which format does not play? is it mp3?
[05:48] <jimd3299> hi there, I'm having a problem with my laptop and speedstep.  My laptop is only running at 700mhz, accourding to 'lshw' and the it is a 1ghz PIII.
[05:48] <Pollywog> BeepAU: I read that your card is not yet known by ALSA drivers
[05:48] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: there are a few more that you can install. they are ffmpeg fluendo-mp3
[05:48] <jessid> i have a question: do you know some wysiwyg app to design web sites? Thanks!
[05:48] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_ : yeah it's not playing mp3's. I installed ffmpeg
[05:48] <blanky> !wireless
[05:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:48] <Netham45> montyp, what?
[05:48] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: try fluendo then
[05:49] <kbrosnan> jessid: nvu
[05:49] <lotusleaf> !nvu > jessid
[05:49] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_: it also won't stream mms
[05:49] <kraypius> mattyv, http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[05:49] <Flannel> Netham45: but you can remove it.  There's absolutely no difference in the systems, except the default grouping of packages installed.
[05:49] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: what's mms?
[05:49] <QsM`> hmm, it says -bash: gksudo: command not found
[05:49] <slavik> has there been any progress with bcm43xx???
[05:49] <mattyv> kraypius: Hmm, open the gnome volume control, edit preferences, tick the other mic options, there's a mic select that might work
[05:49] <mattyv> kraypius: looking now
[05:49] <Netham45> Flannel: yup.
[05:49] <jessid> kbrosnan thanks!
[05:49] <montyp> Netham45, Windows servers have a GUI, hence, by your logic, they aren't servers
[05:49] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_:streaming audio protocol... used by internet radio often
[05:49] <Netham45> no
[05:49] <kingcobra> kbrosnan, thanx very much
[05:50] <Netham45> by my logic Windows is different than DOS
[05:50] <montyp> Netham45, relax
[05:50] <slavik> Netham45: Windows NT line and Windows 9x are very different :)
[05:50] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: i don't know about that, sorry. did fluendo-mp3 work?
[05:50] <Pollywog> BeepAU: try this driver: snd-hda-intel
[05:50] <I_Eat_Plastic> How do I allow users to WRITE (can already read) files via FTP in their own directory?!! +++
[05:50] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: it does say that that's the actual mp3 decoder in the description of the package
[05:50] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, trying it.. just a sec:)
[05:50] <Flannel> I_Eat_Plastic: make sure they have permission
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> I_Eat_Plastic: Make the ftp non-anonymous
[05:50] <slavik> I_Eat_Plastic: chmod o+w /home/user/
[05:50] <kraypius> everything seems to be in order here
[05:50] <slavik> I_Eat_Plastic: sudo chmod o+w /home/user/
[05:51] <slavik> not sure if o is owner ...
[05:51] <BeepAU> pollywog - i've tried that out, but had no success. could i get the windows one and install with ndiswrapper?
[05:51] <I_Eat_Plastic> Thanks everyone. :D
[05:51] <slavik> I_Eat_Plastic: sudo chmod 0644 /home/user/ is safer
[05:51] <mattyv> kraypius: Whoops, you need to give me the full address of your pastebin
[05:51] <Pollywog> ndiswrapper for sound cards?
[05:51] <Pollywog> I thought it was for wifi
[05:51] <kraypius> http://pastebin.ca/399704
[05:51] <Netham45> ndiswrapper IS for wifi
[05:51] <kiah> Hi!
[05:51] <slavik> Pollywog: ndiswrapper si for entwork, but the idea can be applied to other drivers
[05:52] <Pollywog> slavik: oic
[05:52] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, Oh now it's changed error messages. it used to say that gstreamer didn't have the right codec for mp3, but now it says "Problem occurred without error being set. This is a bug in Rhythmbox or gstreamer"
[05:52] <Netham45> ndis is the windows network controller
[05:52] <kiah> hi
[05:52] <kiah> help me!
[05:52] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: there you go=) it's a bug
[05:52] <Flannel> !ask | kiah
[05:52] <ubotu> kiah: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:52] <kiah> ubuntu doesn't work!
[05:52] <BeepAU> slavik - is there a way i can apply the same idea?
[05:52] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: does that happen with all mp3s?
[05:52] <bayzider1> Yeah one of my downloads just randomly stoped when i touched absoulutly nothing!!!
[05:52] <Netham45> kiah: be way more descriptive.
[05:52] <Flannel> !doesntwork | kiah
[05:52] <ubotu> kiah: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:52] <Pollywog> kiah that is a broad statement
[05:52] <bayzider1> How do i get it to start back up again
[05:52] <slavik> BeepAU: a Windows API on top of Linux for drivers?
[05:53] <Pollywog> ubotu is funny sometimes
[05:53] <kiah> I go to Start > Run > uname -a
[05:53] <montyp> kiah, get your money back
[05:53] <kiah> and it doesn't work!
[05:53] <Netham45> um
[05:53] <slavik> It would be nice if Wine was extended to provide API for drivers ... could be interesting to run drivers through Wine
[05:53] <montyp> ah, a bad troll
[05:53] <bayzider1> firefox downloads that is
[05:53] <Flannel> kiah: You're on windows.  Please stop trolling.
[05:53] <Netham45> because there is no start > run.
[05:53] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, nope.. i just realized that it was an .m4a file to start with.
[05:53] <kiah> :( damn.  However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:53] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: i have a bunch of those and they play for me. what it probably is is that it is encrypted
[05:54] <Netham45> now get out of here before I trace you and come and kill you.
[05:54] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: in that case there'd be nothing you can do
[05:54] <kiah> lol I'm not a windows user I'm a gentoo user who thinks trolling is funny
[05:54] <kiah> :D
[05:54] <BeepAU> slavik - converting windows drivers for use in linux. i have a cd which should have the windows drivers, but not with me.
[05:54] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: if it was bought off itunes for example
[05:54] <mattyv> kraypius: Ok, doens't look like there's anything about the mic in dmesg. To be honest it might not be detected/supported. But I don't know much about them. I have an old mic I tried at it did the same as yours, turned of internal but didn't work
[05:54] <art_> is everyone here using xchat?
[05:54] <kiah> anyway, bye guyys. Going to go learn how to troll on another channel now.
[05:54] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, well i certainly didn't pay for it
[05:54] <Flannel> art_: no
[05:54] <Hyper-cool> lol
[05:54] <slavik> BeepAU: ahh, can't really do it AFAIK
[05:54] <montyp> kiah, ah gentoo .. the wannabe freebsd-ers
[05:54] <slavik> ooh, I set up a LAMP server from scratch in a presentation in 2 hours :D
[05:54] <kbrosnan> bayzider1: you can reaname the .part file to the exact file name and then use wget to continue the file download
[05:54] <Pollywog> art: I am using kvirc presently
[05:54] <I_Eat_Plastic> !proftpd
[05:54] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional.  If people can't just pick up on it you shouldn't be trying it.
[05:55] <slavik> kiah: more like we want a working stable "UP TO DATE" system :P
[05:55] <Netham45> can someone kick kiah? it's really bad at trolling.
[05:55] <Pollywog> kiah: or don't like Debian or ....
[05:55] <kiah> oh.
[05:55] <kiah> fair enough.
[05:55] <kiah> but gentoo is different to freebsd too
[05:55] <kiah> I use freebsd as well.
[05:55] <Netham45> wow, your bad at trolling.
[05:55] <bayzider1> I use lfs
[05:56] <montyp> kiah, right ... so even though I use AIX and Solaris at work, and FreeBSD on my home servers, I'm still a newbie because i also use ubuntu?
[05:56] <Bohica032> when I install LAMP on desktop, will I still have the GUI interface?
[05:56] <kiah> I said I was a troll because you guys caught me
[05:56] <mattyv> eeyore_: I had a look in gconf about your flac issue, couldn't find anything that wasn't already changeable in sound juicer. Might need to look for an alternative app
[05:56] <Madpilot> kiah, begone. Or you'll be assisted in leaving.
[05:56] <Madpilot> Bohica032, yes
[05:56] <montyp> kiah, or maybe, i think that by compiling, but never using CFLAGS, will make me an uber-*nixer?
[05:56] <Flannel> Bohica032: yep.  You'll have the GUI stuff (normal desktop) with the server stuff running as well
[05:56] <bayzider1> So you continue to mess with people not say "you are right im sorry i will try and be nice now"
[05:56] <kiah> montyp: no you aren't. but many are :). Alright, I shall begone.
[05:56] <eeyore_> mattyv: yeah i think i figured it out. i found a way to set the compression, it made the file smaller but not as small as using the flac encoder separately. i guess gstreamer has an old encoder
[05:56] <Hyper-cool> i would like to point out that everyone is wasting a lot of energy yelling at the "terrible" troll
[05:56] <bayzider1> kbrosan: How do you wget a file?
[05:56] <eeyore_> mattyv: thanks for your effort
[05:57] <TooR4u> how to create a web browser .....;In .net it is possible to create a web browser.How to do it in linux?
[05:57] <slavik> bayzider1: wget http://www.server.com/file.zip
[05:57] <blanky> !lamp
[05:57] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:57] <slavik> bayzider1: or soem such
[05:57] <TooR4u> By using which porgramming language?
[05:57] <montyp> TooR4u, lol sure is ... i'm writing one atm
[05:57] <detectiveinspekt> How do I put lines about characters in openoffice, kind of like underlining but overlining?
[05:57] <eeyore_> TooR4u: actually the whole of firefox's rendering engine is already in .net=)
[05:57] <montyp> TooR4u, i'm doing it in C++
[05:57] <bayzider1> Thanks
[05:57] <mattyv> eeyore_: No worries, nothing better to do right now ;)
[05:57] <eeyore_> TooR4u: you could probably do it with 10 line sof code
[05:57] <bayzider1> it died at 82 percent
[05:57] <bayzider1> my hear stoped
[05:57] <Hyper-cool> is there a better choice than rhythmbox for mp3 library management? i do need ipod integration one way or another
[05:58] <montyp> TooR4u, you could get all limp wristed though and do it in mono and C#
[05:58] <montyp> but you could never live with yourself
[05:58] <boune> amarok
[05:58] <zues_62> does anyone know of a program i can use to magnify the screen as i am a bit hard of seeing
[05:58] <kbrosnan> bayzider1: you also need the continue flag -C I think
[05:58] <Netham45> wow
[05:58] <Netham45> I love Ubuntu
[05:58] <eeyore_> hear hear
[05:58] <TooR4u> eeyore_, kool .....
[05:58] <zues_62> ubuntu is good
[05:58] <montyp> zues_62, there are accesibility options for ubuntu .. i'm unfamiliar with them, but others won't be
[05:58] <zues_62> windows is hell on earth LOL
[05:58] <TooR4u> montyp, i hate .Net
[05:59] <Netham45> Windows usually filled up my RAM and went to swap on boot, havn't even gotten past 300mb usage in Ubuntu
[05:59] <zues_62> oh ok i have had a look at them but cant figure them out lol
[05:59] <eeyore_> TooR4u: if you're really interested look for the package libmono-gecko or something and look up some docs
[05:59] <TooR4u> okk
[05:59] <montyp> TooR4u, lol, well i use what the boss tells me, but i have mixed feelings about it
[05:59] <kbrosnan> bayzider1: I was slightly wrong, it is lowercase 'c' wget -c http://example.com/file.exe
[05:59] <zues_62> wat is that berry package
[05:59] <zues_62> Iberry or something
[05:59] <thugren> Hey how do you start in the termail mode?
[05:59] <eeyore_> TooR4u: libgecko-cil
[06:00] <mister_roboto> zues_62: kmag is a kde screen magnifiier
[06:00] <Hyper-cool> is there a better choice than rhythmbox for mp3 library management? i do need ipod integration one way or another. Also is there a way to make GAIM not so huge and screen destroying? perhaps another client?
[06:00] <thugren> when your booting?
[06:00] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: amarok is much better but runs in kde
[06:00] <pegasus> you can amarok in gnome as well
[06:00] <zues_62> i cant use that in gnome tho
[06:00] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: so you would need kdelibs installed and it doesn't really work correctly under gnome sometime
[06:00] <TooR4u> eeyore_,  i have to install libgecko-cil&libmono-gecko?
[06:00] <mister_roboto> zues_62: gnome-mag
[06:00] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: I am trying out banshee for a while
[06:00] <zues_62> what is the name of that program u can do all sorts of cool stuff with ur desktop
[06:00] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: and it works ok
[06:00] <boune> amarok  needs kde packages but will work in any window manager
[06:01] <eeyore_> TooR4u: sorry libmono-gecko was wrong and i corrected myself with the latter
[06:01] <pegasus> the program is callled beryl
[06:01] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, does it do ipod integration?
[06:01] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: yes
[06:01] <zues_62> whts the link
[06:01] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, and how big is your library?
[06:01] <TooR4u> okkk
[06:01] <boune> zues do you mean gdesklets?
[06:01] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: about 1500 songs
[06:01] <zues_62> what that
[06:01] <montyp> thugren, you could stop gdm loading on boot
[06:01] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: banshee is not good with big libraries. amarok is! very much so
[06:02] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: you can even hook it up to use mysql and get it lightning fast with not much more effort
[06:02] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, why aren't you using it then?
[06:02] <enderxim> what seems to be the prefered gnome mp3 player?
[06:02] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: because it isn't gnome and that means installing an extra 100 mbs of useless stuff. i'm pressed for disk space
[06:02] <zues_62> whats the link for the berry program
[06:02] <Factory> I like exaile
[06:02] <bayzider1> Wow that aucctualy worked.
[06:02] <boune> amarok or xmms are the most popular audio players
[06:03] <bayzider1> I love amarok
[06:03] <Madpilot> enderxim, take your pick. There are about as many 'favourite players' as there are people who play music on Gnome.
[06:03] <TooR4u> eeyore_, yesterday microsoft came to our college & he take 16 students in our college as 'Microsoft student partners'.At that time he gave 2 hour lecture on .net & microsoft products
[06:03] <Madpilot> I like muine, myself
[06:03] <Netham45> my favorite player is Winamp
[06:03] <Hyper-cool> hey we had microsoft come too
[06:03] <zues_62> does anyone know the Berry link
[06:03] <Hyper-cool> it was boring as hell
[06:03] <bayzider1> I recomend amarok, coming from some one with a full video ipod with no videos. =D
[06:03] <eeyore_> haha
[06:03] <enderxim> Madpilot: I hear that. ;-) Was looking for something with the simplicity of xmms but with a few more functions.
[06:03] <montyp> thugren, if you want to do that you could do "update-rc.d gdm remove"
[06:03] <Netham45> except it glitches alot on song change
[06:03] <kbrosnan> bayzider1: wget is an amazing tool for downloading files
[06:04] <bayzider1> truly.
[06:04] <kraypius> i am using amarok for my music player
[06:04] <eeyore_> TooR4u: well what they were talking about is not linux friendly.
[06:04] <Factory> Question: It shows removable drives on my desktop. Is there a way to disable this deature?
[06:04] <bayzider1> I need to read the man wget
[06:04] <eeyore_> TooR4u: they were talking about .NET which is different from what runs here on linux which is called mono
[06:04] <eeyore_> TooR4u: they are two different implementations of the same standard language C#. .NET runs only on windows while mono runs on everything
[06:04] <Netham45> sudo iwlist scan
[06:04] <Netham45> oops
[06:04] <Netham45> wrong window
[06:05] <TooR4u> eeyore_, Yah ...
[06:05] <thugren> montyp, I am trying to get the  Nvidia driver installed.
[06:05] <thugren> :(
[06:05] <Factory> !envy
[06:05] <montyp> thugren, you won't need to disable gdm then
[06:05] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[06:05] <bayzider1> The hell
[06:05] <kraypius> mono is what you get from kissing dirty girls
[06:05] <montyp> thugren, have you installed nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy?
[06:06] <thugren> montyp K.., I have those installed So How do I get them working?
[06:06] <montyp> thugren, you may also need to install the linux-restricted-modules
[06:07] <montyp> thugren, i am guessing this is the problem ... did they restricted modules get installed as well?
[06:07] <montyp> s/they/the
[06:08] <Hyper-cool> is anyone using enlightenment?
[06:08] <enderxim> Is envy recommended? It performs well?
[06:08] <peepsalot> does anyone know how to allow a popups just once in firefox?
[06:09] <buddha> shift?
[06:09] <thugren> montyp k know what? :)
[06:09] <montyp> thugren, what?
[06:10] <TooR4u> eeyore_, can u gimme the URL for that?
[06:10] <TooR4u> eeyore_, i need some basic tutorial
[06:11] <eeyore_> TooR4u: hmm don't think i can help you out there
[06:11] <kbrosnan> peepsalot: there is no default way to do what you want, I suspect there is an extension at https://addons.mozilla.org that does that. irc://irc.mozilla.org/addons or #firefox might be helpful in finding the exact extension
[06:11] <eeyore_> TooR4u: i haven't used gecko at all
[06:11] <montyp> TooR4u, haha, wow if you can't find mono, you probably shouldn't be using it ;)
[06:11] <eeyore_> TooR4u: what do you need it for anyway?
[06:11] <thugren> montyp Okay.. I have those all installed..  I have the nvidia-glx. Because i have a 6800 PCI-e card
[06:11] <montyp> oh, haha i thought he wanted to know where to get mono
[06:11] <eeyore_> TooR4u: there's enough browsers out there that work. don't start another one=)
[06:12] <TooR4u> eeyore_, :p
[06:12] <TooR4u> i am not working with mono
[06:12] <TooR4u> But i know about it
[06:12] <montyp> thugren, did you upgrade recently or anything? When you upgrade the kernel, you have to get the new restricted modules
[06:12] <eeyore_> TooR4u: what do you want to do exactly?
[06:12] <EADG>  /connect irc.torrent-damage.net
[06:13] <Hyper-cool> it's possible to have more than one window manger installed and to switch back and forth right/
[06:13] <montyp> thugren, so get install the new restricted modules, then install nvidia-glx again
[06:13] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: yup. i've done it with beryl and gdm
[06:13] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: oh you mean enlightenment and another?
[06:13] <Hyper-cool> eeyore_, are there any walkthrough pages on that? i'd like to get enlightenment
[06:13] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: yeah that's also possible
[06:14] <kaled> hi
[06:14] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: yeah there was a pretty good step-by-step guide i saw on installing E17 on ubuntu
[06:14] <kaled> how to access root login?
[06:14] <kraypius> im lookin in my package manager and I see this 3ddesktop, is it any good?
[06:14] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: google it. should come up
[06:14] <montyp> kaled, short answer - you don't. You use "sudo"
[06:14] <kingcobra> where does this mean
[06:14] <kingcobra> On Linux, the path is usually ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default/
[06:15] <TooR4u> eeyore_, i want to create a browser ....;I know c,c++,.net only
[06:16] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: found this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216
[06:16] <kraypius> anyone use 3ddesktop?
[06:16] <TooR4u> oops eeyore_ soory i know c,c++,python only
[06:16] <montyp> kaled, hmm that's good .. i thought you would ask for the long answer :)
[06:16] <TooR4u> kraypius, yah i am using
[06:16] <eeyore_> TooR4u: creating a web browser is an unimaginable ton of work
[06:16] <eeyore_>  an actual html+javascript+css interpreter
[06:16] <eeyore_>  what that package allows you though is make a mock up browser
[06:16] <eeyore_>  you would still be using firefox
[06:16] <eeyore_>  but it would be up to you how you shape the gui of the program
[06:16] <eeyore_>  and there's actually a package of gecko for c++ too
[06:16] <kaled> im sorry
[06:16] <eeyore_>  possibly even python<
[06:16] <lotusleaf> kraypius, lots of people use Compiz and Beryl
[06:16] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: your home folder, generaly folders starting with . are hidden. you can view the hidden folders by right clicking an empty area of the file browser and choose view hidden files
[06:16] <mattyv> TooR4u: any reason in particular why you want to make your own, rather than perhaps contributing to one of the already open source ones
[06:16] <montyp> TooR4u, you can create a browser in c++ ... in fact, there are tutorials all over the net
[06:17] <kraypius> lotusleaf, Which one seems more usefull to you?
[06:17] <thugren> montyp Okay.. so how do Install it?
[06:17] <kraypius> out of the three
[06:17] <thugren> montyp Okay.. Or does it add it when you select it?
[06:17] <lotusleaf> kraypius, both have their uses
[06:17] <montyp> thugren, um, "apt-get install linux-restricted-modules"
[06:17] <lotusleaf> kraypius, there's also Project Looking Glass
[06:18] <kingcobra> kbrosnan, it does not work i cant view them
[06:18] <TooR4u> okk
[06:18] <thugren> k
[06:18] <mattyv> I might be completely out of the loop but, Compiz for better stability, Beryl for more features...generally
[06:18] <lotusleaf> !plg > kraypius
[06:18] <enderxim> mattyv: that sounds about right.
[06:18] <montyp> mattyv, and Fluxbox FTW!
[06:18] <montyp> ;)
[06:18] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: have you ever launched firefox in linux?
[06:18] <con-man> !
[06:18] <kingcobra> im in it at the moment
[06:18] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[06:19] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:19] <con-man> lololol
[06:19] <mattyv> montyp: 'cmon, metacity is way cooler :P
[06:19] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: are you using ubuntu or one of the vairants like kubuntu?
[06:19] <blanky> !lamp
[06:19] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:19] <kingcobra> ubuntu
[06:19] <kraypius> ahh, mozilla has taken over as the default browser. how do I change it back?
[06:19] <montyp> mattyv, a fluxbox user would call it bloated ;)
[06:20] <con-man> mattyv: beryl ftw imo
[06:20] <mattyv> lol
[06:20] <montyp> beryl ain't winning nothin' at the moment ... soon though, perhaps
[06:20] <mattyv> con-man: I personally can't form an opinion, savage S3 integrated laptop graphics, w00t
[06:20] <zues_62> who can tell me what the link is for the berry project
[06:20] <con-man> beryl=win
[06:20] <con-man> I love it
[06:21] <zues_62> THE LINK
[06:21] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: on the top of the screen there is an item called places click on that and select home
[06:21] <montyp> mattyv, hmm, probably can't play Supreme Commander on that card ;P
[06:21] <jrib> zues_62: http://www.google.com/search?q=beryl
[06:21] <kingcobra> kbrosnan, im there
[06:21] <mattyv> asciijump!!!
[06:22] <montyp> wow, the spoonfeeding is getting even better ... now instead of referring to google, people supply the search URL!
[06:22] <|Jason8|> !mp3
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: in your home folder choose view -> show hidden files, apparently it was removed from the context menu
[06:22] <zues_62> now how easy is this thing to install
[06:22] <zues_62> how easy is berry to install
[06:22] <con-man> zues_62: depends on your system
[06:22] <con-man> zues_62: #beryl
[06:22] <kingcobra> kbrosnan, thanx very much
[06:23] <zues_62> chears
[06:23] <zues_62> is it #berry?
[06:23] <con-man> no
[06:23] <con-man> #beryl
[06:23] <montyp> zues_62, also depends on the user ... if you don't have the motivation to find the link yourself, you may not have the motivation to fight through install/running problems
[06:23] <kalin> #ubuntu-effects
[06:23] <con-man> thats the channel name
[06:23] <zues_62> ty
[06:23] <kalin> does anyone know how i can modify gnome session startup from a shell?
[06:24] <zues_62> excuse me
[06:24] <kbrosnan> kingcobra: the other thing to note is that the files must be replaced when firefox is not running
[06:24] <montyp> kalin, what do you want to modify?
[06:24] <zues_62> motervation i hav that ok
[06:24] <kalin> i'd like to remove a program i added to the session startup
[06:24] <zues_62> i just wanted a wee bit of help this is the help server after all lol
[06:24] <kalin> in this case, beryl-manager, which seems to be freezing my system after a 15sec or so
[06:24] <kingcobra> yes thank you kbrosnan
[06:25] <montyp> kalin, gconf, if it's a gnome session thing
[06:25] <mEck0> If I install an application (.deb file), can I remove it by using "sudo apt-get remove appname" then if I want? or just manually when installing from .deb files?
[06:25] <kalin> thanks!
[06:25] <Megaqwerty> Hi, can someone help me install a driver patch?
[06:26] <Netham45> mabye
[06:26] <Netham45> what's in it for us?
[06:26] <Netham45> :)
[06:26] <Megaqwerty> the satisfaction of knowing you fixed something :)
[06:26] <mobiGeek> Flannel: upgrading to Edgy has been successful....and Apache2/PHP5 are running once again!
[06:26] <kingcobra> how do i create a link to folder
[06:26] <montyp> kalin, or look under System->Preferences->Sessions and look under the startup tab
[06:27] <mobiGeek> ubotu: Flannel++
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flannel++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <Megaqwerty> Netham45: can you help?
[06:27] <kalin> yeah, i've already added beryl-manager to the session startup, and it causes a hang, so i need to remove it without loading desktop environment :)
[06:28] <anolis> Hi, i am  having a problem with my sound can anyone be of assistance to me?
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> !sound
[06:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:28] <anolis> well, i can hear sound, but its as if the sound control thingy doesnt control anything
[06:29] <montyp> anolis, try the PCM or Headphone slider
[06:29] <kingcobra> does anybody know how to create a link to folder
[06:29] <anolis> i have selected each device in the sound control
[06:29] <slavik> kingcobra: man ln :)
[06:29] <anolis> and messed with pcm
[06:29] <anolis> and normal output
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> can anyone here help me install a driver patch?
[06:29] <anolis> i have also tried with alsamixer
[06:29] <kingcobra> slavik how with gui
[06:29] <bonii> !players
[06:29] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:29] <anolis> and the -c option
[06:29] <slavik> kingcobra: beats me :P
[06:30] <bonii> !mp3
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <kingcobra> slavik ok thanx
[06:31] <r4nge> which is the file that lists all the ports and their uses?
[06:31] <jrib> r4nge: /etc/services
[06:31] <montyp> r4nge, /etc/services
[06:31] <montyp> booya
[06:32] <r4nge> :)
[06:32] <ananse> is there an equalizer plug in for rhythmbox?
[06:32] <r4nge> i try to write everything down as i learn it but that one slipped me
[06:33] <slavik> r4nge: write this down: /boot is actually the MBR :)
[06:33] <arrenlex> slavik: ...what?
[06:33] <montyp> r4nge, good move .. I still have notebooks from over 15 years ago when i was learning *nix that i use :)
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> slavik: well, that's not really true.
[06:33] <Megaqwerty> So...can anyone here help me install a driver patch?
[06:33] <slavik> and " the name of the root directory is a null scring"
[06:33] <arrenlex> slavik: /boot is a folder just like any other folder. Grub just happens to read its configuration out of it.
[06:33] <slavik> tonyyarusso: isn't it? it's the first track :P
[06:33] <r4nge> montyp: yeah too much going on to think i can remember evrything without writing stuff down
[06:33] <slavik> arrenlex: how can grub read something that isn't mounted?
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> slavik: The MBR just says where /boot is, and how to look at it, but /boot isn't the MBR itself.
[06:34] <dougie> where can you search for packages on apt-get
[06:34] <arrenlex> dougie: apt-cache search <keywords>
[06:34] <kingcobra> hard link not allowed for directory
[06:34] <dougie> ok thanks
[06:34] <slavik> tonyyarusso: so, where is /boot located? my emphasis is that it is not exactly part of the / filesystem
[06:34] <slavik> kingcobra: ln -s :)
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> slavik: it is too part of / - how would it not be?
[06:34] <arrenlex> slavik: Sure it is...
[06:35] <bikini> how do i change the size of my icons on the desktop? they're enormous.
[06:35] <kingcobra> slavik, thanx
[06:35] <montyp> dougie, although, i can look nicer with "aptitude search <keywords>" :)
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> slavik: Mine's on a separate partition, but it doesn't need to be at all
[06:35] <dougie> why does it look better?
[06:35] <slavik> montyp: why aptitude, why not apt-cache search?
[06:35] <arrenlex> dougie: what montyp suggests searches only for packages whose names match keyword. My command searches for packages whose descriptions match keyword.
[06:36] <montyp> sladen, as i said, looks nicer .. and arrenlex is correct
[06:36] <slavik> tonyyarusso: how can grub read the config file if there is no file system mounted?
[06:36] <slavik> tonyyarusso: are you saying that grub reads the hdd directly?
[06:36] <arrenlex> dougie: Oh... I think they're referring to the fact that aptitude search formats its results into columns. But you get less results.
[06:36] <slavik> block by block?
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> slavik: yes
[06:37] <dumezil_> how do i update the font database after manually adding some fonts?
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> slavik: No, it figures out the filesystem I think, but it operates by hardware location, not mount point
[06:37] <jrib> dumezil_: fc-cache
[06:37] <dumezil_> thx
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> slavik: (hence not being able to put /boot on certain types of filesystems - grub only understands some)
[06:37] <bhavi> my open gpg keys have been confirmed.. How to decrypt?
[06:38] <jrib> !gpg | bhavi
[06:38] <ubotu> bhavi: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> bhavi: Seahorse makes it uber easy, btw.
[06:38] <__Krush> Hi Guys, can anyone give me some cues to getting DVB sorted on ubuntu?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> bhavi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts, class #8
[06:38] <slavik> tonyyarusso: but why not just put grub and all of its stuff in the first track of an hdd, since the first track is unused (besides the first block) anyway ...
[06:38] <PingFloyd> that's where the stage1_5 files come in iirc
[06:38] <slavik> should be enough space for grub there
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> slavik: It depends.  (and is being discussed by the powers that be)
[06:39] <arrenlex> slavik: The kernels also live in /boot.
[06:39] <slavik> arrenlex: not all kernels ...
[06:39] <PingFloyd> slavik: why change it?  It works great now
[06:40] <slavik> PingFloyd: waste less space? :P
[06:40] <slavik> PingFloyd: this is one of the things that I think would be better by changing them, although it is not always the case ...
[06:40] <__Krush> DVB??
[06:40] <PingFloyd> slavik: if grub is a space issue, there's a bigger issue :P
[06:41] <slavik> also, why does grub need the chainloader +1 for windows? doesn't grub just exec the kernel/loader?
[06:41] <slavik> PingFloyd: good point
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> slavik: b/c windows boot is weird?
[06:41] <PingFloyd> slavik: I think the chainloader just passes onto the VBR
[06:41] <mEck0> have you guys seen the facelift of ubuntu.com? I really like the new design of the site
[06:42] <slavik> tonyyarusso: besides the obvious things ...
[06:42] <slavik> so, it relocates the windows boot loader?
[06:42] <robby> anybody know how to connect to a wireless connection protected by wap?
[06:42] <slavik> wait, it does ...
[06:42] <PingFloyd> slavik: not really
[06:42] <slavik> doesn't it?
[06:42] <robby> i would like a person on person walkthrough
[06:42] <Netham45> robby: do you mean WEP or WPA?
[06:42] <Madpilot> mEck0, yeah, some nice function changes too - the whole download setup has been redone
[06:42] <robby> wpa
[06:42] <robby> sry
[06:42] <slavik> hmm, on my system grub and win are on diff physical hdds ...
[06:43] <PingFloyd> slavik: with windows part of it's bootloader is in the VBR and MBR is a system that say used only windows, but in the case of grub, just the code in the VBR is ran
[06:43] <mEck0> Madpilot, aha, thats nice
[06:43] <PingFloyd> slavik: grub handles the MBR aspect
[06:43] <tritoch> !wpa | robby
[06:43] <ubotu> robby: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:43] <amar> !mount
[06:43] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:43] <kraypius> Gah! all the 3d desktop environments look so fun and I know i can only have one
[06:43] <slavik> PingFloyd: when pressing F8 during windows boot, the menu given, is that the loader from vbr or mbr?
[06:44] <amar> !mounting windows partition
[06:44] <robby> those dont really help me to much i dont understand much about how to do that stuff
[06:44] <robby> so i need some person on person
[06:44] <PingFloyd> slavik: not sure off hand
[06:44] <montyp> slavik, if all else fails, you can check out the GAG bootloader
[06:44] <nol13> hi, anyone have any experience burning .mp4 files in linux?
[06:44] <slavik> montyp: I don't like the name of that ...
[06:44] <amar> !mount windows partition
[06:44] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB
[06:44] <nol13> sorry, i mean .m4a
[06:45] <PingFloyd> slavik: this explains it better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntldr
[06:45] <montyp> slavik, yeah, grub sounds much better
[06:45] <montyp> slavik, but anyway, it's solved a lot of people's problems
[06:45] <bikini> anyone know how to change the size of desktop icons?
[06:46] <art2k2> yeah those icons are humongous!
[06:46] <slavik> bikini: right click and select change size or whatever option it is
[06:46] <mattyv> Stretch
[06:46] <slavik> yeah, that
[06:46] <slavik> mattyv: ty
[06:47] <slavik> shouldn't 'smart' boot loaders just be in the BIOS? make things easier ...
[06:47] <bikini> slavik: i'd have to do that with every single one of them though.
[06:47] <slavik> just stick grub into BIOS and you're done :D
[06:48] <slavik> bikini: otherwise, learn a bit of scripting and how to use imagemagick :)
[06:48] <slavik> that will allow you to resize all pictures in a dir to whatever size you want :)
[06:48] <nol13> cana i burn .m4a files?
[06:48] <art2k2> is there a console irc program?
[06:48] <arrenlex> !irssi | art2k2
[06:49] <Alma_Negro> Hello.
[06:49] <ubotu> art2k2: irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[06:49] <nol13> art2k2: yes
[06:49] <art2k2> thank you
[06:49] <Netham45> !irc
[06:49] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[06:49] <amar> can anyone help me to mount windows partition
[06:49] <Netham45> ooh!
[06:49] <Netham45> clients!
[06:49] <slavik> !ntfs-3g
[06:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:49] <art2k2> how about changing the resolution and font of the console?
[06:50] <crdlb> art2k2, you need to enable the framebuffer
[06:50] <crdlb> !framebuffer
[06:50] <bulmer> got a working freenx installation ? can you give some pointers on how this thing is done right? confusing as heck to get it working not really understanding which key and user do which
[06:50] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[06:50] <montyp> amar, what sort of partition? NTFS or FAT?
[06:50] <amar> both FAT n NTFS......
[06:50] <Alma_Negro> art2k2: in grub add vga=7xx
[06:50] <jarrad> Does anyone know where I can change the keybinding that is set to restart x and others
[06:50] <amar> montyp:i'm experiencing some weird problem
[06:50] <montyp> amar, for the NTFS install ntfs-config
[06:50] <aedes> has anyone gotten lvm working?
[06:51] <montyp> amar, which will give you ntfs-3g, as suggested
[06:51] <art2k2> thank you crdlb and Alma_Negro
[06:51] <art2k2> thank you arrenlex
[06:51] <amar> montyp: i used the commands given in official ubuntu guide to mount FAT partition........ but same drive will be mounted repeatedly
[06:51] <arrenlex> yw
[06:52] <nol13> how do i hack into peoples computers?
[06:52] <amar> montyp: i mean all drives contain the same folders...... even though i mount different drives
[06:52] <montyp> amar, are you mounting these different drives on different mount points?
[06:53] <amar> no....... i'm using /media/windows to all the drives
[06:53] <slavik> http://www.bash.org/?737693
[06:53] <amar> montyp:no....... i'm using /media/windows to all the drives
[06:53] <montyp> amar, you have to mount each partition on a different mount point
[06:53] <bonii> I am facing a key problem with Dapper. I have got an English US keyboard layout set and all keys work fine but the problem is whenever I press the caps lock although caps lock works but it gives me an error message saying Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-Devil's--Temple/0/numlock_on": `'' is an invalid character in key/directory names...... cAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[06:54] <robby> anybody know how to connect to wpa wireless network?
[06:54] <amar> montyp, but in dat documentation they have mounted all the drives in same point
[06:54] <nol13> any of you guys seen the phish brooklyn dvd?
[06:54] <montyp> amar, well, if that is actually what the doc says, it is wrong. You would just keep mounting over the previous mount
[06:55] <kalin> does anyone know a good standardish resource for keyboard shortcuts for gnome?
[06:55] <amar> montyp, thank u very much, i will try with different mounting points
[06:55] <bonii> I am facing a key problem with Dapper. I have got an English US keyboard layout set and all keys work fine but the problem is whenever I press the caps lock although caps lock works but it gives me an error message saying Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-Devil's--Temple/0/numlock_on": `'' is an invalid character in key/directory names...... cAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[06:55] <montyp> amar, so make mount points for each of the partitions (use "sudo fdisk -l" if you need to see them), then mount them ("sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows" for example)
[06:56] <nol13> kalin: try: F1 - F12, and cntrl
[06:56] <montyp> amar, cool, you may have better luck :)
[06:56] <robby> anybody know how to connect to wpa wireless network?
[06:56] <nol13> robby: yes
[06:57] <amar> montyp, so to mount another drive shld i use mounting point as /mnt/windows2
[06:57] <robby> nol13 would you mind walking me through it please?
[06:57] <bikini> where is the xorg.conf file?
[06:57] <bonii> I am facing a key problem with Dapper. I have got an English US keyboard layout set and all keys work fine but the problem is whenever I press the caps lock although caps lock works but it gives me an error message saying Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-Devil's--Temple/0/numlock_on": `'' is an invalid character in key/directory names...... cAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[06:57] <montyp> amar, yeah
[06:57] <arrenlex> !repeat | bonii
[06:57] <ubotu> bonii: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:57] <amar> montyp, thanx :-)
[06:57] <nol13> robby: what kind of card do you have
[06:58] <montyp> amar, and remember if you want to read/write to NTFS partitions to do "sudo apt-get install ntfs-config" , then when it's installed "gksu ntfs-config"
[06:58] <robby> nol13 idk
[06:58] <art2k2>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:58] <r4nge> does cron.hourly send a report back to root?  run-parts --report?  and would that mean an email to root
[06:58] <bonii> !patience
[06:58] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:58] <montyp> it's true. I only help people with bad attitudes
[06:59] <nol13> robby: what does the "lspci" command give you under "network controller"
[06:59] <sid> The step 5(migration) just does nothing on the latest Feisty build while installing. How can I skip it?
[06:59] <sid> I can do steps 1 through 4 fine, step 5(migration) just has the time come on forever, and I can't click Forward... it's faded out)
[07:00] <CoRnJuLiOx> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/teh_sAbEr/CIMG2030.jpg, http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/teh_sAbEr/CIMG2029.jpg <-- could someone take a look at those? i just burned the ubuntu 6.10 release onto a CD, and whenever i try to 'start or install ubuntu' it ends up like that
[07:00] <sid> the hour glass thingy
[07:00] <CoRnJuLiOx> this is the second CD thats done this to me
[07:01] <CoRnJuLiOx> i burned this one at the slowest setting possible
[07:01] <robby> nol13  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[07:01] <mattyv> Anybody know if it's possible to remove something (file/folder) from your Tracker database once it's already been "tracked"?
[07:01] <CoRnJuLiOx> i ran md5sum on the ISO and it seems fine
[07:02] <sid> ubiquity --desktop %k gtkui --no-migration-assistant
[07:02] <sid> that works, nevermind
[07:02] <Coffeegrindah> I'm trying to mount a squashfs but keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10851/
[07:02] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: Do you know how to change boot options? Like nolapic etc
[07:03] <CoRnJuLiOx> nope
[07:03] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: ^
[07:04] <mEck0> is there a mindmapping app for gnome?
[07:04] <bonii> I am facing a key problem with Dapper. I have got an English US keyboard layout set and all keys work fine but the problem is whenever I press the caps lock although caps lock works but it gives me an error message saying Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-Devil's--Temple/0/numlock_on": `'' is an invalid character in key/directory names...... cAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT?
[07:04] <nol13> robby: try this maybe, http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html   goodluck, hold on though
[07:05] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: Alright, you know when you get the livecd screen where it says, install ubuntu, start in safe graphics mode etc?
[07:05] <CoRnJuLiOx> yeah
[07:05] <CoRnJuLiOx> safe gfx mode doesn't work either, btw
[07:06] <nol13> how do i burn .m4a files?
[07:07] <Angelus> hi there, was wondering, I need to download a file to use with Ubuntu to use my work's system
[07:07] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: That's ok, at that screen press F6, this gives you a line of options down the bottom, ending with quiet splash...correct?
[07:07] <Jabberman> Can anyone tell me how do install WinXp over the WindowsXPPRO.vmx?
[07:07] <Angelus> it's called MetaFrame Presentation Server Client for Linux x86, I was wondering do I download the x86 version or the ARM version?
[07:07] <nol13> Angelus: msybe
[07:07] <kraypius> is it true that only certain programs will work with project looking glass? should I not install it? i was reading that it is much more innovative than beryl and others but I dont want it if I cant use my apps
[07:08] <CoRnJuLiOx> dunno, i'd need to restart this computer to see it. (don't have another PC i can use).
[07:08] <Jabberman> Vmware anyone?
[07:08] <Angelus> it's a secure citrix thing, I don't understand!
[07:09] <nol13> Angelus: first you need to figure out who YOU are, x86, or ARM. The answer lies within.
[07:09] <Angelus> what's the difference?
[07:09] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: ALright, when you get there, after "ro" but before quiet, add the code acpi=off, then boot
[07:09] <Jabberman> Anyone help/
[07:09] <Jabberman> ?
[07:10] <nol13> Angelus: what is the same?
[07:10] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: isn't acpi that power management thing? why would it cause a kernel panic?
[07:10] <Angelus> that's not very helpful nol13!
[07:10] <Angelus> I'm new to this stuff and I like using it!
[07:11] <Angelus> but like I said I'm NEW
[07:11] <Bohica032> how do i add a new HDD?
[07:11] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: The last thing before your panic seems to be acpi related, I know for a fact that sometimes the acpi impementation is broken, i need that option for mine to boot. Your fans and stuff still work
[07:12] <nol13> Angelus: but what is it not helpfull with? ya know?
[07:12] <CoRnJuLiOx> hmm. alright, i'll try it out right now and get back to you.
[07:12] <matrix> how change the icon on the menu the gnome?
[07:12] <nol13> Angelus: i am sorry, i do know the path to your quest
[07:12] <Angelus> ok, let me ask again. What is the difference between 86 and ARM?
[07:13] <mirra> anyone have any idea as to why, after allowing ALL udp traffic through iptables, that pinging domain names, or any domain resolves, will not work
[07:13] <mirra> ??
[07:13] <Bohica032> I got 2 HDD, a 20GB and 40GB.  I want the 20 GB to be the primary and 40 additional.  Pain in the neck to set it that way....HELP
[07:14] <montyp> Angelus, um, they are different architectures ...
[07:14] <montyp> mirra, do you have nameservers in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:14] <mirra> yes
[07:15] <Angelus> montyp, ok cool, I'm getting somewhere but now, further from this, I need to download a file from my work's website so I can use their server
[07:15] <mirra> it works fine when i accept all incoming
[07:15] <montyp> mirra, and you can ping those nameservers by ip?
[07:15] <kalin> nol13, i've found basic commands, i wanted to find an extensive list though. i only used a mouse in windows on a rare occasion and would like to keep the usage down in ubuntu also
[07:15] <mirra> right now its default drop
[07:15] <snaidis> Where do wine installs itself?
[07:15] <Angelus> montyp, I guess I need to know how to install the file they are asking me to install!???
[07:15] <PingFloyd> you can talk shit about linus thouhg
[07:15] <Bohica032> wow tough crowd
[07:15] <nol13> Angelus: A-1 + R-18 + M-13 = 32    86 - 32 = 54
[07:16] <snaidis> Where does wine install itself?
[07:16] <mirra> montyp, no I cant, thats what I dont understand
[07:16] <lotusleaf> !language > PingFloyd
[07:16] <montyp> mirra, hmm, can you ping your router (if you are using one)?
[07:16] <mirra> i used tcpdump to monitor udp port 53 while i pinged and thats where the traffic is
[07:16] <mirra> its a VPS server, so I am not sure
[07:16] <S0crates> Synaptic is complaining about a bad dependency.  How do I fix it?
[07:16] <montyp> Angelus, i don't really know what you are asking
[07:16] <mirra> but once i accept all income it works fine
[07:16] <Angelus> nol13, I don't know what you are saying and you're not helpful
[07:16] <snaidis> Anyone know?
[07:16] <Priest-of-Psi> why does my pc lock up once I access my webcam?
[07:16] <snaidis> Where do wine installs itself?
[07:16] <Madpilot> S0crates, got any unofficial repos installed?
[07:16] <montyp> mirra, because maybe the router isn't routing back to you
[07:17] <S0crates> Madpilot, No, just the default ones
[07:17] <mirra> montyp, it works fine though once I accept all though
[07:17] <montyp> mirra, it sounds like a rule ordering problem in iptables then
[07:17] <Angelus> is anyone familiar with Citrix ICA Client for Unix Version 9???
[07:17] <S0crates> Here's the error" libgnomevfs2-0: Depends: libgnomevfs2-common (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.16.1-0ubuntu7 is to be installed"
[07:17] <tritoch> Angelus: what kind of processor do you have
[07:17] <snaidis> ?
[07:17] <mirra> montyp, the udp stuff is first
[07:18] <Madpilot> S0crates, could you pastebin your sources.list for me?
[07:18] <mirra> montyp, and I tried it as last too
[07:18] <dougie> ok i just used alien to convert limewire.rpm to a deb file and installed it but it wont run
[07:18] <snaidis> Where does wine install itself?
[07:18] <Angelus> Triroch, I have a centrino
[07:18] <S0crates> Madpilot, sure, just a second
[07:18] <tritoch> its x86
[07:18] <montyp> mirra, and do you have "related" and "established" rules?
[07:18] <Madpilot> snaidis, ~/.wine
[07:18] <Angelus> thank you tritoch!
[07:18] <snaidis> I cant find it there
[07:18] <mirra> montyp, no..i thought allowing all incoming UDP (just to test) would have no problem
[07:18] <nol13> kalin: im not really to experienced in your problem, but the people who say that you dont need to use a command line in linux are dirty liars, sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet, most things you need are on google though.
[07:19] <snaidis> I installed it by sudo aptitude install wine
[07:19] <snaidis> and it is not there...
[07:19] <mirra> montyp, what rules should I use for dns then
[07:19] <montyp> mirra, i'll pm you and talk
[07:19] <mirra> ok
[07:19] <nospi> hey
[07:19] <mirra> thx
[07:20] <McQueen> hi, what is the best movie editor for ubuntu 6.10?
[07:20] <robby> ok im still having problems connecting wirelessly
[07:20] <snaidis> Madpilot, it is not there, I installed it by sudo aptitude install wine
[07:20] <montyp> mirra, um, are you registered? I'm talkiing to you in pm :)
[07:21] <McQueen> can you help me?
[07:21] <Madpilot> snaidis, .wine is where wine installs the Windows apps - wine itself is whereever it needs to be, I've no idea where it is.
[07:21] <mirra> montyp, hey sorry
[07:21] <mirra> montyp, i am not registered
[07:21] <mirra> montyp, can you give me a minute??
[07:21] <montyp> mirra, ok. To register: /msg nickserv register <passwd>
[07:22] <mirra> i need to change names..this is reg'ed...one sec
[07:22] <montyp> mirra, you may have to change your nick, if someone else has registered it ( they proabbly have)
[07:22] <nospi> im using the KDE desktop, how do i change the desktop settings so i have to double click to run files instead of single click?
[07:22] <montyp> :)
[07:22] <nol13> kalin: try: sorry, didnt mean to confuse you, for i am confused, ya see?
[07:22] <snaidis> Madpilot, but there should be a wine folder at Home, why isn't it there?
[07:22] <elliottcable> HOLY SHIT there are a lot of users in here
[07:22] <lotusleaf> snaidis, open up Synaptic and search for wine, then highlight it/select it and click the tab which says 'installed files' for locations of installed files (minus the Windows programs you've installed which are in ~/.wine)
[07:22] <dougie> can anyone help with limewire install?
[07:22] <lotusleaf> !language | elliottcable
[07:22] <ubotu> elliottcable: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:22] <nol13> robby: follow the white rabbit
[07:22] <McQueen> what is the best movie editor for ubuntu
[07:22] <McQueen> ?
[07:22] <Madpilot> snaidis, it'll be created when you first install something via wine
[07:22] <robby> anybody know how to connect to wpa wireless network?
[07:23] <omkar86> hi is there any word-list vocabulary building software in gnome?
[07:23] <snaidis> Ah ok..
[07:23] <lotusleaf> snaidis, see also #winehq
[07:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, paste > S0crates
[07:23] <S0crates> robby, You need to work with wpa_supplicant.  Check it out
[07:23] <nospi> !paste | S0crates
[07:23] <ubotu> S0crates: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:23] <robby> i ahve all the wireless programs i can find and i dont know how to use them to connect
[07:23] <kingcobra> why is video playback jittery on my comp in ubuntu
[07:23] <Priest-of-Psi> why is kubuntu a dvd
[07:23] <nospi> Madpilot, is that how you do it? or is the > personal?
[07:23] <Priest-of-Psi> and ubuntu a cd?
[07:24] <Madpilot> nospi, the > made the bot PM S0crates
[07:24] <lotusleaf> Priest-of-Psi, kubuntu is available as a CD ISO and DVD ISO
[07:24] <Madpilot> Priest-of-Psi, there are CD & DVDs for both
[07:24] <nospi> Madpilot, oh ok, and the | is the whole channel?
[07:24] <Madpilot> nospi, yes
[07:24] <nospi> Madpilot, ok, thanks
[07:24] <lotusleaf> Priest-of-Psi, see also #kubuntu
[07:24] <S0crates> Madpilot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10852/
[07:24] <Madpilot> nospi, actually, kind of. the | is to stick someone's nick in front of the bot's tell
[07:25] <montyp> !pastebin
[07:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:25] <nol13> Priest-of-Psi: do you have ubuntu running right now?
[07:25] <nospi> Madpilot, yeah, so they know it's talking to them
[07:25] <mattyv> Anybody know if it's possible to remove something (file/folder) from your Tracker database once it's already been "tracked"? I've blacklisted it in the config file but it was already tracked earlier
[07:25] <Madpilot> nospi, yes
[07:25] <nospi> Madpilot, i see
[07:25] <robby> i ahve all the wireless programs i can find and i dont know how to use them to connect to wpa, could somebody please tell me how?
[07:25] <Flannel> !wifi | robby
[07:25] <ubotu> robby: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:26] <nospi> Madpilot, do you know how to install themes to use with the KDE desktop?
[07:26] <Priest-of-Psi> hmmm
[07:26] <nospi> Madpilot, i downloaded some
[07:26] <Priest-of-Psi> I am moving to KDE :D
[07:26] <magic_ninja> is there a way to update to the latest wine without updating everything else
[07:26] <S0crates> How does one go about installing packages from different releases of Ubuntu?
[07:26] <Madpilot> S0crates, your sources.list is a bit messed up. you're missing at least a few standard repos there. Use the source-o-matic thing to rebuild them
[07:26] <Flannel> S0crates: you don't
[07:26] <magic_ninja> i'm using .22 and i wanna use the latest with no cvs
[07:26] <nol13> mattyp: is your internet running right now?
[07:26] <robby> ubotu that doesnt help me much you tryed helping me yesteday and i couldnt figure out what to do
[07:26] <Madpilot> nospi, I'm a Gnome victim, never been afflicted w/ KDE
[07:26] <shatrat> magic_ninja, you mean 9.33?
[07:26] <magic_ninja> shatrat: no i mean 0.9.33
[07:27] <nospi> Madpilot, i just installed it to see what i like better, but KDE is a bit more professional, gnome is easier i think
[07:27] <lotusleaf> nospi, see #kubuntu
[07:27] <nospi> Madpilot, might stick with gnome for a while
[07:27] <shatrat> magic_ninja, well, you can get up to 0.9.32 by using the wine.budgetdedicated repository. if you want 33 youll need to compile it as far as I know.
[07:27] <nospi> lotusleaf, thanks
[07:27] <lotusleaf> nospi, yw :)
[07:27] <S0crates> Flannel, Interesting.  I would like to install a different version of Anjuta than what is in the Edgy tree,  So It isn't possible to retro back to an older version?
[07:27] <mattyv> nol13: were you talking to me?
[07:27] <Flannel> S0crates: Sure, but not using the Feisty repositories
[07:27] <robby> i ahve all the wireless programs i can find and i dont know how to use them to connect to wpa, could somebody please tell me how? can somebody other than a bot help me please
[07:27] <Madpilot> S0crates, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic to rebuild your sources.list
[07:27] <Flannel> !prevu | S0crates
[07:27] <ubotu> S0crates: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[07:27] <kingcobra> does anybody know why video playback could be jittery
[07:27] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: nope, didnt work.
[07:28] <omkar86> can someone point me to list of keyboard shortcuts for gnome?
[07:28] <nol13> mattyv: ya, my bbad
[07:28] <mattie10> I'm running the live disc.. I'm in shell right now, how do I shut down?!?!
[07:28] <Flannel> S0crates: but, do what Madpilot is recommending, since your current setup is rather... disturbing
[07:28] <lotusleaf> magic_ninja, see #winehq for wine related chat, also, re: the budgetdedicated repo, unless you want to compile, .33 should be available within a few days or so
[07:28] <Flannel> mattie10: sudo shutdown -h now
[07:28] <nol13> mattyv: ya, is it running?
[07:28] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: Was worth a try, not sure what else to try
[07:28] <Madpilot> S0crates, you're missing edgy-updates and at least a few of the -security repos from that list you pasted. Easiest is to rebuild it.
[07:28] <Welfaric> Hi, I tried to add the Ubantu restricted  extras thru add and remove and I have the CD I loaded Ubantu 7.04 with in the CD drive, but it keeps asking for the CD
[07:28] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: i hit f6, moved the cursor over to between 'rw' and 'quiet splash --' and typed in 'acpi=off' and then hit enter. was i right?
[07:28] <Angelus> how do you copy something to a directory
[07:28] <mattyv> nol13: On the previous kernel it is
[07:28] <Angelus> ?
[07:29] <Flannel> Welfaric: You'll need to remove the CD from your repositories.
[07:29] <Angelus> I mean I want to copy some files from one directory to another
[07:29] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: did you use the "" or not? You need to do it without
[07:29] <nol13> mattyv: on the previous kernel, you better go cath it!!!!!!!!!!!1   ahahahaahahhahahahaahahahahahahahhahahaahahhaa
[07:29] <shatrat> Welfaric, you shouldnt be using 7.04
[07:29] <mattyv> ugh that was bad
[07:29] <Welfaric> Right shatrat but I am
[07:29] <magic_ninja> lotusleaf: winehq referred me here to ask about the packaged version, they only support source as far as installation goes
[07:29] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: i didn't use "".
[07:29] <CyberCod> whats the syntax for using the "grub-install" command to install grub to hda when used in a script?
[07:30] <nol13> mattyv: ugh u smell bad
[07:30] <Flannel> !grub | CyberCod, first link
[07:30] <ubotu> CyberCod, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:30] <shatrat> Welfaric, dev releases are for people who answer questions, not ask them
[07:30] <Flannel> shatrat, No need to be so hostile.
[07:30] <kingcobra> flannel yes there is
[07:30] <LaNCeloT_RW-out> dudes, i have beryl installed, and all the windows that are opened, start minimized... i couldnt find where to fix it.. anyone knows?
[07:31] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: alright, only other boot options I can think of that might help are noapic nolapic, if those don't work I have no idea
[07:31] <Flannel> LaNCeloT_RW-out: #ubuntu-effects
[07:31] <shatrat> Flannel, im not being hostel, just pointing out that it's not appropriate to ask questions about dev. stuff in here.
[07:31] <lotusleaf> magic_ninja, correct, just sit tight (unless you want to build it yourself) and it should be updated within a few days. Sometimes it takes a few days or a week or two and other times it's released with a day, it just depends on the maintainer
[07:31] <Welfaric> shatrat, that is wrong, except my question is not a dev level question, is that what you mean
[07:31] <mattyv> nol13: was there any point to your posts?
[07:31] <Flannel> shatrat: his question isn't specific to Feisty.
[07:31] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: and do i need to place these somewhere specific in the boot options menu?
[07:31] <LaNCeloT_RW-out> Flannel, yeah, i know that channel, but there's no one there right now =/
[07:31] <magic_ninja> lotusleaf: ty
[07:31] <snaidis> Madpilot, Do you know ho to install ventrilo by wine?
[07:32] <lotusleaf> magic_ninja, yw :)
[07:32] <Flannel> Welfaric: like I said, remove the CD from your repositories.  If you can't do it from the source properties thing, you can just comment it out (#) in your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[07:32] <S0crates> Madpilot, The source-o-matic worked well.  Thanks man!
[07:32] <Madpilot> snaidis, no idea, I've used wine exactly once, and it failed to install anything that time...
[07:32] <S0crates> It's amazing how simple that was.  woot
[07:32] <Flannel> LaNCeloT_RW-out: then try #beryl
[07:32] <mattyv> CoRnJuLiOx: Not really afaik, I just generally do it before the quiet splash because i know it works there
[07:32] <snaidis> oh
[07:32] <Welfaric> Thank you Flannel
[07:32] <Madpilot> S0crates, np. Anytime someone says "apt-get is complaining about depends" the answer is almost always messed up sources..
[07:32] <CoRnJuLiOx> mattyv: ok, thanks.
[07:33] <snaidis> Madpilot,there is a tutorial, but there you sould get into ~/.wine but I cant...
[07:33] <kingcobra> flannel it sounded like it was a feisty prob he was havin dats y i thot he was out of order
[07:33] <nol13> mattyv: the point to my posts is as sharp as the scoundrel tounge
[07:33] <snaidis> Madpilot,there is no such afolder...
[07:33] <Madpilot> snaidis, in Ubuntu's file manager, use Ctrl+H to show hidden files
[07:33] <snaidis> I know
[07:33] <Angelus> I'm being asked to install something to this directory (/usr/lib/ICAClient), but I want to copy the files into that directory, how do I do that???
[07:34] <snaidis> Madpilot,I know but it isn't there...
[07:34] <nol13> mattyv: ponder my words and think of the sum
[07:34] <Madpilot> snaidis, dotfiles are only created after the app has run for the first time. if you've never run wine, .wine won't exist
[07:34] <snaidis> Madpilot,because I'v never installed anything by wine yet
[07:34] <infidel> Angelus, sudo?
[07:35] <Madpilot> snaidis, you can create it, it won't be destroyed when you do first run wine
[07:35] <Bohica032> can someone help me with my HDD delema
[07:35] <Angelus> is there a beginners forum???
[07:35] <Bohica032> I wish there was
[07:35] <infidel> this is
[07:35] <Bohica032> lol
[07:35] <snaidis> Madpilot,So what can I install for the first time?
[07:35] <Angelus> well me too i feel so stupid in heree
[07:36] <Bohica032> same here
[07:36] <Madpilot> snaidis, anything - or you can just create .wine manually, and wine will use it
[07:36] <snaidis> Madpilot,something small and something which i can install by I line
[07:36] <infidel> state the full problem
[07:36] <snaidis> yes but I have to see the files there
[07:36] <nol13> how do i stop the nsa from tracking me?
[07:36] <Bohica032> I even tried following the forum, but that is pain in the neck as well
[07:36] <kingcobra> why is video playback jittery on my comp in ubuntu
[07:36] <snaidis> Madpilot,yes but I have to see the files there
[07:37] <kingcobra> does anybody know why video playback could be jittery
[07:37] <shatrat> kingcobra, do you have video card drivers installed?
[07:37] <Angelus> whats your problem Bohica032?
[07:37] <Bohica032> I got 20Gig and 40Gig HDD
[07:37] <Madpilot> snaidis, I've no idea what you should install - like I said, I've used wine exactly once
[07:37] <Bohica032> I want the 20 to be primary and 40 secondary
[07:37] <nol13> kingcobra: have you made sure that your monitor is securely held in place?
[07:37] <kingcobra> shatrat, i think they are installed automatically
[07:37] <Angelus> maybe we should go back to Windows!!
[07:38] <Bohica032> I can't mount the 40, an if i manage than I cant write to it
[07:38] <kingcobra> nol13, monitors fine
[07:38] <snaidis> Madpilot,OK :) thanks anyway!
[07:38] <shatrat> kingcobra, what card do you have? does "glxinfo | grep rendering" say yes?
[07:38] <kingcobra> ati radeon 9200
[07:38] <nol13> kingcobra: any recent earthquakes?
[07:38] <kingcobra> 1 sec
[07:38] <kingcobra> nol13, no :)
[07:38] <Bohica032> it's a lot different with linux
[07:38] <Angelus> Bohica032, i have no idea to help you but there could be a program you can download to do that, if you search the add/remove thing
[07:39] <Bohica032> THIS IS PAIN IN THE A$$.....AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
[07:39] <infidel> Bohica032, ntfs?
[07:39] <kingcobra> shatrat, direct rendering: Yes
[07:39] <gudneo> Hi .. My name is Neo. This is my first time in IRC. I was fedora user before. I just tried ubuntu edgy live cd 1 month b4 and instantly fell in love with it.
[07:40] <shatrat> kingcobra, is it all video or just some files? DVDs?
[07:40] <nol13> Bohica032: yup, honestly osx is alot better
[07:40] <kingcobra> shatrat, all video
[07:40] <Bohica032> it use to be NTFS.  i managed for format it, but I cant write to it
[07:40] <gudneo> Now I am using ubuntu only ... No XP, No Fedora ... only ubuntu ...
[07:40] <cables> gudneo, APT is great, huh?
[07:40] <Bohica032> OSX ROCKS
[07:40] <shatrat> kingcobra, what are you using as a player?
[07:40] <gudneo> cables - Yes ... Fantastic ...
[07:41] <Bohica032> I got this old PC use to be XP, but I want to change it to a web server.
[07:41] <cables> gudneo, do you have any problems with it?
[07:41] <Angelus> Bohica032, I wish I could help mate! I have no idea how do fix your problem
[07:41] <kingcobra> shatrat, totem movie player
[07:41] <infidel> Bohica032, what does ls -l say?
[07:41] <goodwill> I am installing ubuntu on one computer and planning to move the harddrive to a diffrent system (both pentiums, but diffeent mobo's, nics and such). Will I need to rerun hardware detection?
[07:41] <kingcobra> shatrat, default in ubuntu
[07:41] <infidel> Bohica032, what does fdisk -l say?
[07:41] <tovella> cables: ...apt is great... part of why i abandoned redhat/fedora
[07:42] <PingFloyd> aptitude is better
[07:42] <Bohica032> huh?
[07:42] <gudneo> But I am having some problems ... since i used only redhat based distros ... But learning and improving
[07:42] <Bohica032> fdisk what?
[07:42] <cables> gudneo, anything we could help you with?
[07:42] <supaneko> Hello there.
[07:42] <Bohica032> I see it uder the Computer - File Browser
[07:42] <Angelus> how do you change permissions on a directory?
[07:42] <cables> Bohica032, copy/paste the command to terminal
[07:42] <supaneko> I am wondering if there is a package called "ibm-buttons" and if there is, where and how I download and install it.
[07:42] <cables> Bohica032, paste with ctrl-shift-v
[07:43] <tom47> !chown > Angelus
[07:43] <cables> Bohica032, then paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:43] <Bohica032> when I check properties it's read only and it will not allow me to change it
[07:43] <Priest-of-Psi> kde is actually neat
[07:43] <Priest-of-Psi> abit bloated
[07:43] <gudneo> Could I tell my problem here ... does it make you all angry ... because I am seeing a lot of chats going on .. ;)
[07:43] <NETWizz> Is Ubuntu better than Windows 98?
[07:43] <Priest-of-Psi> but its way ahead of gnome
[07:43] <cables> gudneo, go ahead, that's what this channel is for
[07:43] <cables> NETWizz, it's better than XP!
[07:43] <shatrat> kingcobra, well, totem doesnt have too many options.  If you try gmplayer you should be able to change the the video output settings around, try xv and gl and some other stuff and see if any of those play more smoothly
[07:43] <cables> Bohica032, do you know how to open a terminal?
[07:43] <gudneo> NETWizz: ~% better
[07:44] <james00> ubuntu+beryl kicks ms vi$ta's ass!
[07:44] <tovella> NETWizz: and much, much better than vista.
[07:44] <kingcobra> shatrat, ok thanx
[07:44] <nol13> PingFloyd: what do you preffer, with syd or post syd?
[07:44] <NETWizz> Does that mean XP is better than Vista?
[07:44] <cables> tovella, I would have to disagree with you on some points... but Ubuntu is definitely my preference.
[07:44] <supaneko> Is there a way to search the Ubuntu package databse?
[07:44] <supaneko> *database
[07:44] <tovella> NETWizz: everything is better than vista.
[07:44] <cables> supaneko, Synaptic could do that
[07:44] <PingFloyd> if kde and/or gnome is too bloated for your tastes, try out icewm
[07:45] <supaneko> ^^ I agree with that. :D
[07:45] <gudneo> My Gnome is loading very slow ... Is there a way to optimize gnome loading
[07:45] <NETWizz> I think vista is okay
[07:45] <NETWizz> I have used it
[07:45] <Bohica032> im on OSX right now, and I have to type all commands to the other PC
[07:45] <cables> tovella, I've got to admit, hibernate/suspend is great in Vista.
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: no is means that Vista is great
[07:45] <NETWizz> I don't like their new WDDM driver requirement for Aero
[07:45] <mattyv> supaneko: several, seach in Synaptic, apt-cache search form the command line, Package Search in Firefox 2
[07:45] <lotusleaf> !windows
[07:45] <NETWizz> I think that is bullshit
[07:45] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: .....................
[07:45] <cables> Bohica032, fdisk -l (l as in lemon)
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: .....................
[07:45] <lotusleaf> !language > NETWizz
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: .....................
[07:45] <nol13> NETWizz: FOR ME TO POOP ON
[07:45] <supaneko> mattyv, I have tried searching under Firefox 2 but it always says I didn't enter a keyword.
[07:45] <Bohica032> when i typed fdisk -l  it don't give me nothing
[07:45] <NETWizz> If Beryl runs on old video cards, I don't see why Vista can't
[07:46] <cables> Bohica032, sorry, sudo fdisk -l
[07:46] <NETWizz> I also don't see why vista spread everything out
[07:46] <tom47> !offtopic > NETWizz
[07:46] <mattyv> supaneko: I think it has problems when entering 2 words, try a single word
[07:46] <PingFloyd> try enclosing in quotes, otherwise it's enterpretting as seperate arguments
[07:46] <tovella> cables: hibernate/suspend works quite well on my crappy dell notebook, too (ubuntu).
[07:47] <Angelus> there was no information on Basic commands!
[07:47] <Bohica032> Disk /dev/hda: 20GB and Disk /dev/hdb 40 GB
[07:47] <cables> tovella, I'm talking about the combined one... it writes the memory to the disk AND suspends, so it starts up quickly, but is fail-safe (if you lose power it just unhibernates)
[07:47] <Angelus> I would like to know how to change permissions on a file please
[07:47] <cables> Angelus, if you want to do it graphically, right click and click Properties.
[07:47] <kalin> chmod
[07:48] <james00> anybody know how to edit panel fonts to WHITE? i've tried making that .gtkrc-2.0 file but in feisty theres a ".gtkrc1.0-2" file thats auto written by gnome-settings-daemon that's used by the system instead.
[07:48] <tom47> Angelus use man chown in a termianl
[07:48] <cables> Angelus, otherwise, use chmod (man chmod)
[07:48] <gudneo> Angelus .: you can use chmod
[07:48] <Angelus> thank you!!!!
[07:48] <tom47> oops chmod
[07:48] <Angelus> chmod that's what I'm after!
[07:48] <t3soro> chmod -r 0777 /some/thing
[07:48] <t3soro> the -r is recursive (all subdirs/files as well)
[07:48] <tom47> Angelus sorry i was confused
[07:48] <Bohica032> can I use that to a HDD?
[07:48] <james00> its -R capital
[07:48] <t3soro> 0777 means allow everyone to read/write/execute
[07:49] <kingcobra> shatrat, how do i install gmplayer, its not in synaptic
[07:49] <kalin> kingcobra, maybe you need to add universe and multiverse repositories to synaptic
[07:49] <shatrat> kingcobra, I believe you install "mplayer" and gmplayer is the executable if you want a GUI menu, mplayer is kind of command-only
[07:49] <cables> Bohica032, you'll have to give us more of the fdisk -l
[07:49] <cables> Bohica032, what's the filesystem on each one?
[07:49] <gudneo> Angelus: Please see this tutorial .. "http://www.evolt.org/article/A_quick_and_dirty_chmod_Tutorial/18/541/" Excellent one ..!
[07:50] <Angelus> thanks gudneo!
[07:50] <goodwill> hmmm
[07:50] <kingcobra> shatrat, thanx again
[07:50] <gudneo> No probs Angelus ..
[07:50] <shatrat> kingcobra, good luck
[07:50] <kingcobra> kalin theyre added
[07:50] <gudneo> Afterall we all are here to help ...
[07:51] <kalin> kingcobra, i was just guessing, looks like shatrat's suggestion was what you needed :)
[07:51] <Bohica032> "/hda (20GB)  /dev/hda1 /hda2 /hda5"
[07:51] <gudneo> Can I shoot my problem ... ???
[07:51] <goodwill> so noone knows
[07:51] <kingcobra> kalin no prob, thanx
[07:51] <goodwill> I am installing ubuntu on one computer and planning to move the harddrive to a diffrent system (both pentiums, but diffeent mobo's, nics and such). Will I need to rerun hardware detection?
[07:52] <lineman60_> most of it shoudl be pritty automatic
[07:52] <Bohica032> AHHHHHHH
[07:52] <Bohica032> what else do you guys need
[07:52] <gudneo> goodwill: I think it will work fine ..
[07:53] <gudneo> Bohica032: My gnome loading very slow ,, Y so?
[07:53] <cables> Bohica032, it'll say something like ntfs, fat, hfs, ext, or something like that
[07:53] <goodwill> gudneo: thank you
[07:53] <cables> gudneo, did gnome load slowly on fedora?
[07:54] <gudneo> cables: when i first install ubuntu it is loading superfast ... after sometimes it becomes slow ...
[07:54] <slavik> night all
[07:55] <gudneo> It will wait at the splash screen for about a minute b4 loading desktop
[07:55] <Golstaff> I cannot get sound to work on my new eft machine. I have followed the walkthroughs I can find online to no avail. I am thinking of buying a new sound card. Any recommendations as to which one would be compatible?(looking to spend <$100)
[07:55] <cables> gudneo, any startup programs?
[07:55] <Bohica032> Infidel - you still here?
[07:55] <goodwill> Golstaff: any soundblaster should do
[07:56] <gudneo> cables, not at all
[07:56] <Golstaff> k, so stick with creative then?
[07:56] <gudneo> cables, i have kde installed ..
[07:56] <cables> gudneo, I'm not sure why that's happening
[07:56] <Bohica032> cabels - I was able to format both HDD with ext3
[07:56] <Golstaff> thanks
[07:56] <gudneo> cables, its okay ... :) ... U tried to help me ... thats gr8 .. Thank You cables ,,
[07:57] <gudneo> Could anyone help me on Gnome please .. :)
[07:57] <Angelus> how do you change the owner of a directory?
[07:57] <cables> !permissions | Angelus
[07:57] <ubotu> Angelus: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[07:58] <cables> !away | LaNCeloT_RW
[07:58] <ubotu> LaNCeloT_RW: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[07:58] <LaNCeloT_RW> Sorry! =(
[07:59] <akirksey> whats the word on  Texas Instruments PCI7420/7620 mass storage controller?
[07:59] <gudneo> Angelus: Use chown command ... chown neowner,newownergroup dir
[08:00] <tovella> i'm feeling an uncontrollable urge to re-do my server... later all.
[08:00] <t3soro> have fun
[08:00] <gudneo> :( ... I am sad ... no one is trying to help me  .. except cables ...
[08:00] <````bulldogg> I have a laptop that I am going to use for college and I am enrolled in a network security program which version of ubuntu should I run  edgy, fawn, or the previous one whos name escapes me at the moment
[08:01] <cables> !patience | gudneo
[08:01] <ubotu> gudneo: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:01] <````bulldogg> I was looking at feisty but I wonder how stable it is?
[08:01] <cables> gudneo, maybe that wasn't the best message... what I WANTED ubotu to say was that people will help you if they know how to fix your problem
[08:01] <cables> ````bulldogg, it's an alpha... do the math :)
[08:01] <akirksey> word on the street is feisty is about as stable as a new born fawn still slick from mothers womb.
[08:01] <gudneo> ubotu: I understand ..
[08:01] <````bulldogg> laugh... okay... that answers that question
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i understand .. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <Jaguar> lol
[08:02] <cables> gudneo, bot :)
[08:02] <````bulldogg> so do you guys reccoment edgy or hoary?
[08:02] <Jaguar> That was the best one I've sene tonight.
[08:02] <Jaguar> seen'
[08:02] <cables> ````bulldogg, neither
[08:02] <cables> ````bulldogg, Dapper or Edgy
[08:02] <cables> ````bulldogg, which is not neither, but whatever :)
[08:02] <akirksey> Dapper's your best bet since it's supported
[08:02] <````bulldogg> okay sorry it would be dapper yes
[08:03] <Jaguar> 'Night folks.
[08:03] <cables> akirksey, so is edgy, but not for as long
[08:03] <````bulldogg> so which?  dapper or edgy?
[08:03] <cables> ````bulldogg, Edgy is better, but isn't supported with updates for as long. Dapper is older and has older software.
[08:03] <akirksey> Why isn't edgy supported for as long?
[08:03] <kmitch87> hola, peoples!
[08:03] <cables> !lts | akirksey
[08:03] <ubotu> akirksey: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:03] <akirksey> !lts | akirksey
[08:03] <````bulldogg> okay thanks for the information.... I have been running fedora but was looking to try something different
[08:04] <akirksey> sure so Edgy should have longer support then Dapper? I'm sorry, I'm still seeing places on the forums were people still arn't 100% confident in Edgy
[08:04] <````bulldogg> I can load all of my network security stuff like... kismet etc..
[08:04] <nol13> akirksey: mainly becasue of software piracy
[08:05] <gudneo> cables: Thanks :)
[08:05] <````bulldogg> okay the five million dollar question.. which version will support my intel 3945bg wireless the best?
[08:06] <nol13> dont you guys ever get sick of all these n00bz?
[08:06] <cables> akirksey, Edgy is really fine... but it's less tested than Dapper. It's still a stable release, though, and if the LiveCD works for you, then it should work fine
[08:06] <cables> !coc | nol13
[08:06] <ubotu> nol13: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:06] <gudneo> bulldog: Edgy
[08:06] <kmitch87> bulldogg: intel should have opensource drivers available
[08:06] <DavidHKMrPowers> who likes Paris Hilton?
[08:06] <mattyv> akirksey: Sorry if I've missed something, but no, Dapper was released with long term support in mind, edgy has support half as long
[08:06] <````bulldogg> well that settles it
[08:06] <nol13> cables: sorry
[08:06] <cables> ````bulldogg, probably Edgy, but you can try the LiveCD to make sure
[08:06] <akirksey> oh yeah it works fine. The only hiccup was the generic kernal forcing me into a three month brawl with my Broadcom chipset, but other then that it's excellent.
[08:06] <akirksey> i'm delighted by Edgy.
[08:07] <kmitch87> bulldogg: however, you will need to get the firmware separately
[08:07] <````bulldogg> and no113 I am not a noob just haven't used ubuntu that muck
[08:07] <````bulldogg> I can do that... I just don't want to have to fiddle with it for hours
[08:07] <cables> i think nol13's either a trolling bot or just a troll
[08:08] <````bulldogg> sorry if I am asking to many questions... just trying to figure out what to load and have the best of everything
[08:08] <cables> ````bulldogg, you're certainly not asking too many questions
[08:08] <````bulldogg> some day if I get brave enough I am going to triple boot my Mactel
[08:08] <nol13> what is muck?
[08:08] <cables> !ops | nol13
[08:08] <akirksey> mattyv: then will fiesty be bestowed with the LTS once it's past beta?
[08:08] <ubotu> nol13: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[08:08] <gnomefreak> i see it cables
[08:08] <````bulldogg> I have xp and osx on it right now.. and would like to add a linux distro
[08:09] <mattyv> cables: re: troll, agreed
[08:09] <gnomefreak> nol13: stay on topic please
[08:09] <nol13> sorry guys, have a good night everyone, dont drink and drive
[08:09] <Helmi> good morning
[08:09] <mattyv> akirksey: Feidty no, maybe Feisty+1 or +2, it will be chosen when things are likely to be stable and long support is more plausable
[08:09] <Hobbsee> akirksey: no.
[08:09] <Helmi> is there a possiblitys to have .* files shown in nautilus permanently?
[08:10] <kmitch87> Helmi: yes
[08:10] <cables> akirksey, only every few releases are LTS
[08:10] <````bulldogg> have a nice night you guys helped me out a lot.... if I get around to triple booting my mac intel I might have to look you up again
[08:10] <jrr> what happened to my gnome disk manager?
[08:10] <Helmi> kmitch87: oh cool - will you tell me how? :)
[08:10] <kmitch87> Helmi: View-->Show hidden files in nautilus toolbar
[08:10] <Amaranth> jrr: it was buggy and iirc had security problems so it was removed from GNOME
[08:11] <Helmi> thanks ;) kmitch87
[08:11] <jrr> wowsers
[08:11] <akirksey> oh ok.
[08:11] <supaneko> Hmm, is there a way to display the boot sequence for Ubuntu rather than the Windows-like Ubuntu load screen (which just shows the Ubuntu logo and a small status bar)?
[08:11] <cables> supaneko, sure
[08:11] <kmitch87> Helmi: also Ctrl + H keyboard shortcut
[08:11] <supaneko> Hmm, cables, could you please enlighten me?
[08:11] <cables> supaneko, alt-f2 then gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:11] <Amaranth> superlou: remove quiet from the boot line in grub
[08:11] <jrr> supaneko: i believe that's the "splash" argument in grub's conf
[08:11] <Helmi> kmitch87: yeah i saw that - does this setting get saved automatically or do i have to save it to have it switched on by default?
[08:11] <cables> Amaranth, I'll walk him thhrough
[08:12] <ardchoille> supaneko: Remove 'splash' from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:12] <cables> supaneko, do you want to see the splash but under it see the boot sequence, or not see the pretty graphics at all?
[08:12] <kmitch87> Helmi: I think it is just for the one time the nautilus is openned
[08:12] <Helmi> kmitch87: yeah i thought that - but must be possible to save somewhere as a standard hm?
[08:13] <supaneko> What is the quiet option in boot.lst?
[08:13] <supaneko> *menu.lst
[08:13] <cables> supaneko, find the "defoptions" line
[08:13] <kmitch87> Helmi: go to Preferences in nautilus toolbar and tick the check box next to show hidden files and folders
[08:13] <cables> supaneko, do you want to see the splash but under it in a box see the boot sequence, or do you want to get rid of the splash entirely?
[08:13] <Helmi> kmitch87: thanks
[08:13] <kmitch87> Helmi: no prob
[08:14] <supaneko> Actually, that would be perfect, cables.
[08:14] <cables> supaneko, which one?
[08:14] <supaneko> Having the splash with boot sequence below.
[08:14] <kmitch87> Helmi: Edit--> Preferences in nautilus toolbar to be exact
[08:14] <Helmi> kmitch87: yeah found it already thx
[08:14] <cables> supaneko, ok. Find the defoptions line (ctrl-f is your friend)
[08:15] <akirksey> Well anyways, on a side note, I'm trying to get my SD Card reader to mount the SD cards, and I was curious if anyone had any insight in how I could maybe, possibly, somehow get that to work.
[08:15] <akirksey> i know that's a vauge summation of the issue so let me post my lspci which says I have a  Texas Instruments PCI7420/7620 Mass Storage Controller
[08:15] <cables> supaneko, it should look like this: # defoptions=quiet splash
[08:15] <supaneko> Yep, that's exactly what it looks like.
[08:15] <cables> supaneko, once you see it, delete "quiet"
[08:15] <cables> supaneko, then save it and close it
[08:15] <yigal> oh its nice to turn the quiet option off
[08:15] <yigal> then you can see the processes as you boot up
[08:16] <yigal> but the logo is still there
[08:16] <cables> supaneko, then open a terminal and run the command "sudo update-grub"
[08:16] <supaneko> Do I remove it on the commented out line or in the boot options area?
[08:16] <supaneko> Where it has title, root, kernel, initrd, quiet, etc.
[08:16] <cables> supaneko, commented out line
[08:17] <supaneko> Really...? Okie.
[08:17] <cables> supaneko, then it will automatically re-add it whenever you get a kernel update
[08:17] <cables> supaneko, sudo update-grub will automatically update all your kernel lines with the new options
[08:17] <fnf> I've seen a feature request on multiple-segment apt-get downloads. But is there anyway to make apt-get download multiple packages (when updating/installing) simultaneously currently ?.
[08:17] <eshaase> for some .avi files (divx) i get garbled audio using mplayer, any ideas? i've tried all the -ao xxx drivers and had no luck
[08:17] <supaneko> WELL, I will BRB. :)
[08:17] <yigal> Wasn't there a gui boot manager for grub, I recall there being one in GNOME 2.10
[08:17] <yigal> you could ask for grub, vga=794 etc.
[08:18] <supaneko> cables, thank you.
[08:18] <Bohica032> why is it such a pain in the a$$ to add 2nd HDD?
[08:18] <ardchoille> yigal: You mean bum?
[08:18] <ardchoille> !bum
[08:18] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:19] <cables> ardchoille, but that doesn't let you change the menu.lst, just the init scripts.
[08:19] <Schalken> !awn
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <ungar88> hello :)
[08:19] <Schalken> !avant
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[08:19] <ungar88> !avant
[08:19] <Schalken> hi
[08:19] <AtlanticBoy> !ipfilter
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[08:20] <Golstaff> any recommendations on keeping beryl from crashing on eft, or should i install fawn?
[08:20] <Bohica032> does anyone know how to attach 2nd HDD to ubuntu?
[08:21] <eshaase> for some .avi files (divx) i get garbled audio using mplayer, any ideas? i've tried all the -ao xxx drivers and had no luck
[08:21] <Schalken> Golstaff: you shouldnt try to fixing an unstable piece of software by making your whole system unstable
[08:21] <Golstaff> lol, gotcha
[08:22] <Golstaff> sorry a little drunk. too much celebrating st my day (patrick)
[08:22] <procyon> whats the crash message from beryl gol
[08:23] <mirra_> was anyone else around for my iptables / nameservers problem????
[08:24] <gbv22> hi, i installed ubuntu, but when i boot up it always loads to windows. windows and ubuntu are on seperate drives. how can i get the grub menu to show up?
[08:24] <Golstaff> i didn't see a message, comp stopped responding for a sec, then beryl closed completely and went back to default display settings
[08:24] <nospi> hey
[08:25] <nospi> wat's happenin?
[08:25] <city-lights> hello .. i can't find a way to connect to the internet in ubuntu (just installed it)
[08:25] <procyon> beryl closed? the beryl manager icon vanished?
[08:25] <tom47> city-lights adsl cable or dial-up
[08:25] <city-lights> i have a broadband connection, that does not use modem
[08:25] <Golstaff> yes, it vanished
[08:25] <gbv22> city-lights: is eth0 enabled?
[08:26] <Golstaff> I may have missed something (i'm a bit of a newb, and I've had too much Guiness tonight)
[08:26] <city-lights> gbv22: sorry, i'm noob into this. some docs or something?
[08:26] <d0lph1n> !VPN
[08:26] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[08:26] <procyon> nice, ive had my fill as well
[08:26] <Bohica032> i guess noone knows how to install 2nd HDD here?
[08:26] <city-lights> gbv22: and yes ethernet enabled
[08:27] <cables> !ipfilters | AtlanticBoy
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipfilters - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <eshaase> i get garbled audio when i use mplayer to play divx files with "MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)", i've tried all the -ao xxx drivers and still no luck, any ideas?
[08:27] <cables> !iptables | AtlanticBoy
[08:27] <ubotu> AtlanticBoy: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:27] <AtlanticBoy> thanks cables
[08:27] <dfdfsfdsf> what the best mp3 to m4a converter out there ?
[08:27] <procyon> does it crahs randomly or when you run certain programs?
[08:27] <cables> dfdfsfdsf, you probably have to convert to something like wav first
[08:28] <Golstaff> whenever i try to move a window it dies
[08:28] <cables> dfdfsfdsf, you could write a script I guess
[08:28] <gbv22> city-lights: ok...try this...in ur browser window type in <IP_ADDRESS> and see if it takes you anywhere. just chekin if its dns
[08:28] <cables> dfdfsfdsf, just curious, why are you converting mp3 to m4a?
[08:28] <procyon> was it ever working properly?
[08:28] <yooluca> cables because its better for my  n73 nokia
[08:28] <city-lights> gbv22: it does not
[08:29] <Golstaff> I can minimize and restore ok, but when I move a window it freezes, then closes. It never worked properly
[08:29] <gbv22> city-lights: are u behind a router?
[08:29] <city-lights> the problem is i cannot access my internet connection, because it's not there.
[08:29] <cables> yooluca, you have a phone that prefers m4a to mp3? I've never heard of that
[08:29] <procyon> cool, that narrows things then
[08:29] <city-lights> i just need to provide my ISP's name, user and pass
[08:29] <city-lights> but instead i only have modem options
[08:29] <city-lights> i don't use a modem
[08:29] <gbv22> city-lights: oh...ok..dls?
[08:29] <gbv22> dsl?
[08:29] <c0llisi0n> Hi there.
[08:29] <gbv22> ?
[08:29] <yooluca> cables when i copy music file to n73 nokia the pc suite its asking me if i would like to convert the files to the best know mobile files ... and when i hit yes it start converting the file (mp3 to m4a) so it seems like m4a its better for the mobile
[08:29] <city-lights> fiber optics
[08:30] <c0llisi0n> I am having a problem where Ubuntu is unable to see my Windows XP computer under "Network Servers."
[08:30] <cables> yooluca, alright, ffmpeg is probably your best bet.
[08:30] <gbv22> city-lights: damn...ok....so no modem? router?
[08:30] <c0llisi0n> I have all the SMBs installed, or so I think.
[08:30] <Nighteye> sup
[08:30] <c0llisi0n> Windows Network shows up but no servers.
[08:30] <yooluca> cables yes it does that ... it can also play mp3 ... but no clue why is asking me if i would like to convert the files
[08:30] <procyon> if i were you i'd launch beryl-manager from a terminal then open up a seperate window. Then you can see what meassge you get when it crashes
[08:30] <cables> yooluca, then why not just use mp3?
[08:30] <city-lights> no. just a username and password. is there a patch for this? can't believe it does not exist
[08:31] <yooluca> cables im i confusing now m4a with mp4 ?
[08:31] <Golstaff> cool thanks. don't know why i couldn't think of that
[08:31] <cables> yooluca, m4a is actually Apple's filename extension for AAC, which is mpeg-4 audio
[08:31] <Golstaff> I'll try that out as soon as I sober up
[08:31] <cyberfr0g> hello
[08:31] <procyon> then you can just google the error message
[08:31] <procyon> mostly likely many have had it before
[08:31] <yooluca> cables well i did use it .. but the music player for n73 nokia seems to be a bit slow in refreshing music sometimes even crashing if the files are mp3
[08:31] <Golstaff> Thank you much procyon
[08:31] <cables> yooluca, ah
[08:31] <procyon> word
[08:32] <l90bpm> (making sure I didn't lock it up) testingtesting123 (been working on this broken laptop all day)
[08:32] <akirksey> its been my experience that if ever you want to migrate audio files to another device you should keep them mp3 just incase where you put them doesn't have the decryption keys. WMA are notorious for that.
[08:32] <Golstaff> night all
[08:32] <Officer`Thasp> can I un rm 2 MB of files from a folder if I haven't written to the HD since I rm'ed them?
[08:32] <Golstaff> quit time to sleep it off
[08:32] <Bohica032> nihgt
[08:32] <yooluca> cables and also m4a are a lot smaller then mp3 ... and its good :)
[08:32] <yooluca> cables converting mp3 to m4a will the quality be same ?
[08:33] <Helmi> hmm i'm currently starting to code under linux with eclipse (with pdt extension) and i've opened some files from a central NAS-Box in the network - eclipse tells me every view seconds that the file has changed on the server and if i want to reload it but that's definitely wrong
[08:33] <cables> yooluca, not really, it depends on the bitrate. And you will definately lose quality converting a lossy format like mp3 to another one (aac)
[08:33] <kraypius> i just installed beryl and now when I start X I get: Xsession: unsupported number of arguements: (3); falling back to default session
[08:33] <gbv22> city-lights: im sorry man...i have never connected to the net in tht manner
[08:33] <Helmi> any ideas where this may come from or how i can get rid of it?
[08:33] <kraypius> what should I do?
[08:33] <cyberfr0g> unsure
[08:33] <l90bpm> ok, great
[08:34] <yooluca> cables god dam they are small .. from a 10 mb mp3 file its making about 1.5 mb 2 Mb something like that
[08:34] <cables> yooluca, then you're definitely losing a ton of quality
[08:35] <yooluca> cables ok i see what i can do
[08:35] <yooluca> cables do you know any nokia help channel ?
[08:35] <cables> yooluca, you don't need that
[08:35] <c0llisi0n> What can I do so that I can see my Windows XP media server?
[08:35] <cables> yooluca, you want to convert mp3 to aac, I'll help you. just hold on a sec
[08:35] <cables> yooluca, you're using Ubuntu, right?
[08:35] <yooluca> cables yes
[08:36] <Random12341> i dont understand this version of azureus. I think its downloading a torrent. the files have been created in the directory i specified, however, i cant get the azureus to show me anything about whats going on. its a blank window
[08:36] <Bohica032> OK now i'm getting a headache... still can't add a 2nd HDD to this bloody system....   LOL
[08:38] <victoria> hello, what is the correct dpkg command to reconfigure a package?
[08:38] <pwnzorz> ive reinstalled like5
[08:38] <yooluca> cables yeah should be ok
[08:38] <Random12341> Bohica032, it has its advantages. But microsoft is nuts. $200 for an OS that takes up that many resources and runs that crappy? their insane.
[08:39] <kraypius> Rooy, nobody talkin in there
[08:39] <Random12341> Bohica032,  you have to accept that linux was developed based on different logic.
[08:39] <pwnzorz> i dont get why ppl can hate a free os...
[08:40] <Rooy> kraypius: how are things messed up?
[08:40] <yooluca> cables once again :) ... when i try to copy music to the mobile i i get a info saying "do you want to convert music tracks to mobile optimised format "it might be not bad doing it
[08:40] <kraypius> Xsession: unsupported number of arguements: (3); falling back to default session
[08:40] <Random12341> pwnzorz, they hate that they dont wanna use microsoft and linux so fickel.
[08:40] <kraypius> thats what I get when I start X with beryl
[08:40] <Bohica032> I know... personally I use MAC OSX, and trying to set-up my old PC as web server
[08:40] <Bohica032> but 1st i need to attach the f@#$%G 2nd HDD
[08:40] <pwnzorz> im forced to windows, only os that plsys games
[08:41] <Rooy> kraypius: how did you start beryl? with a custom session script?
[08:41] <gbv22> pwnzorz: what games?
[08:41] <kraypius> rooy, yes
[08:41] <Random12341> pwnzorz, they say vista slows games down 25%
[08:41] <kraypius> rooy, i will show it to you
[08:41] <gbv22> pwnzors: what games do u play...
[08:41] <pwnzorz> bf2 cs:source farcry, civ iv
[08:42] <Rooy> kraypius: how about starting it with gnome-session? (WAG: you're using KDE)
[08:42] <ropha> pwnzorz, give them all away for tuxkart then ;P
[08:42] <pwnzorz> alot of others im too lazy to name
[08:42] <Random12341> windows is nice, its just evovled into a pile of 3 ton crap.
[08:42] <pwnzorz> ya
[08:42] <kraypius> rooy, yeah thats what I meant
[08:42] <pwnzorz> it looks ugly too
[08:42] <gbv22> pwnzorz: i play plenty of games on linux..so i dont think its right to say windows is the only OS that plays games!!
[08:43] <pwnzorz> im usin touchscreen to type, hard
[08:43] <kraypius> Rooy, http://pastebin.ca/399775
[08:43] <Random12341> atlest with linux, as much as i hate it, if i dont like something, i can remove it... after 14 1000 page manuals, 3 6packs, 4 pizza's and 3 weeks.
[08:43] <procyon> windows is the only os games are developed for, would be more appropriate
[08:43] <gbv22> procyon: true
[08:43] <pwnzorz> gbv22: actual games, or just frozen bubble ;)
[08:43] <pwnzorz> windows has directx
[08:44] <gbv22> pwnzorz: actual games....if u consider stuff like half life 2 or gta games..yeah..i play them on linux
[08:44] <procyon> opengl?
[08:44] <pwnzorz> ...
[08:44] <pwnzorz> bf2142?
[08:44] <pwnzorz> will you be able to play crysis, spore?
[08:45] <catxk> if I wanna dualboot ubuntu and win xp, does it matter which partition is first so to speak?
[08:45] <gbv22> pwnzorz: i cannot predict the future yet
[08:45] <pwnzorz> windows os has directx backin them up, nuff said
[08:45] <ropha> catxk, install windows first
[08:45] <pwnzorz> linux needs support.
[08:46] <gRaCiOsO> good evening well im a newbe here in linux and im trying to install and configure a web server but i dont have any idea what to look for or what to do anyone here could be nice and tell me about what can i read and where please ?
[08:46] <procyon> directx is rather meaningless. You dont NEED directx to make a game
[08:46] <gbv22> pwnzorz: im sure it is...but im just pointint out to u that u can play plenty of mainstream games on linux, announcing that u cant play games on linux here.. is misleading
[08:46] <ropha> gRaCiOsO, apache2
[08:46] <pwnzorz> procyon: tell thst to producers...
[08:46] <Random12341> pwnzorz, nah, linux needs... flow. Its a heaping pile of 1000 different projects.
[08:46] <gRaCiOsO> ropha,  does it have a website to read something about it?
[08:47] <catxk> ropha: right... so I install windows just as I've always done and then run the ubuntu install and everything should be fine? or? :)
[08:47] <procyon> dont need too. game producers use directx because it runs on windows and the vast majority of peoiple run windows
[08:47] <ropha> gRaCiOsO, so many, it's not funny
[08:47] <Pupeno2> Is there a midi on-screen keyboard packaged for Ubuntu?
[08:47] <cables> yooluca, ok, got it
[08:47] <pwnzorz> theres no gettin around the fact that producers dont see a community that plays games and uses linux.
[08:47] <Rooy> kraypius: on this site, your same arguments to Xsession is used with exec http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL
[08:47] <ropha> catxk, yep. and if it's not, come back here ;)
[08:47] <procyon> making games multi paltform istn profitable
[08:47] <Bohica032> WELL IF ALL GOES WELL I WILL HAVE BOTH OF MY HDD ON MY MACHINE...5 min to go
[08:47] <cables> yooluca, you there?
[08:47] <cables> !attitude | Bohica032
[08:47] <ubotu> Bohica032: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:47] <Rooy> kraypius: and on this one xession is used only with gnome-session as argument http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_XGL
[08:47] <gRaCiOsO> ropha,  ok thanks sorry i just told im a novice sorry
[08:48] <Flannel> !lamp | gRaCiOsO
[08:48] <ubotu> gRaCiOsO: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:48] <cables> !offtopic | pwnzorz, procyon
[08:48] <ubotu> pwnzorz, procyon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:48] <Flannel> gRaCiOsO: check that URL
[08:48] <gbv22> pwnzorz:true..but the fact remains..may of thoes games tht were made for windows can be played fine on linux....and thats a fact
[08:48] <Bohica032> !sorry
[08:48] <cables> yooluca, are you there?
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <catxk> ropha: mmkay, how much space would the ubuntu install need? would 10 gb be well enough?
[08:48] <kraypius> rooy, what should I do?
[08:48] <ropha> gRaCiOsO, yeah, not a problem. Just check out apache2 ... don't worry about LAMP for now ...
[08:48] <ropha> catxk, yep, more than enough
[08:48] <procyon> oh bt its so easy to get off topic
[08:48] <ralph-nader> Eh, I get an error in Camorama which won't allow me to take pictures. The error is: "Could not create directory '~/Webcam_Pictures'"
[08:48] <ralph-nader> What should I do to correct this?
[08:48] <catxk> ropha: cool, thanks a lot
[08:48] <gRaCiOsO> ok thanks a lot
[08:48] <Bohica032> !sorry | cables
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <pwnzorz> i know, but they cant run as well without directx
[08:49] <Random12341> i dont understand this version of azureus. I think its downloading a torrent. the files have been created in the directory i specified, however, i cant get the azureus to show me anything about whats going on. its a blank window
[08:49] <procyon> yes they can
[08:49] <Bohica032> LOL
[08:49] <Rooy> kraypius: try removing "dbus-launch --exit-withsession" part
[08:49] <cables> !offtopic | pwnzorz, procyon
[08:49] <ubotu> pwnzorz, procyon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:49] <ropha> gRaCiOsO, so the place to start is "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[08:49] <pwnzorz> port dx 10 then.
[08:49] <gbv22> pwnzorz: why dont u run some games on linux..try it out..and then talk about it...
[08:49] <Rooy> kraypius: i'm on nvidia, not xgl, can't test that out
[08:50] <ropha> ralph-nader, well, you could create the directory ... and give it permissions that will allow you to use it
[08:50] <yooluca> cables yes im here
[08:50] <kraypius> rooy,  kbrb
[08:50] <pwnzorz> gbv 22: i know they run but the gfx arent as refined, the drivers are lame, and as far as support, your screwed...
[08:50] <ralph-nader> ropha; Which permissions? :o
[08:50] <cables> yooluca, do this: sudo aptitude install lame faac
[08:51] <cellofellow> I have a Debian Sarge server and two problem Windows98/ME clients. The Win98 boxes can browse shares just fine, but when printing to a shared printer, I get: "There was an error writing to \\SERVER1\hplaser for printer (Network1): The network name cannot be found."
[08:51] <ropha> ralph-nader, well first create the directory $HOME/Webcam_Pictures
[08:51] <cellofellow> Like I said, browsing shares works fine.
[08:51] <ralph-nader> Okay.
[08:51] <billy> Greetings fellow earth_creatures.
[08:51] <ropha> ralph-nader, see what happens with camorama then
[08:51] <Bohica032> is there a guide for dummies for ubuntu?  something that explains things step-by-step?
[08:51] <gbv22> pwnzorz: true...i dual boot with vista myself..cause configuring some things can be a pain..but 90% of the apps i need work...and if i had a little more knowledge..i guess mroe would
[08:51] <ralph-nader> It gives the same error.
[08:51] <ralph-nader> I tried it a minute ago.
[08:51] <ropha> Bohica032, it's called Windows. Next!
[08:52] <Bohica032> lol
[08:52] <ralph-nader> ropha; Haha.
[08:52] <kraypius> rooy, X started up but everything looks the same
[08:52] <Bohica032> lmao
[08:52] <yooluca> cables and then ? that would not install me a gui package is it ?
[08:52] <cables> yooluca, no gui.
[08:52] <ralph-nader> Let me try to change the permissions.
[08:52] <Bohica032> thaks guys I needed that
[08:52] <ropha> ralph-nader, and you still get the "could not create" error? Have you looked to make sure it really is created?
[08:52] <cellofellow> Bohica032: yes, all over.  (Well, almost.)
[08:53] <Bohica032> this is my 1st exposure to this system
[08:53] <cables> yooluca, to convert a file, run this command: lame --decode <in>.mp3 - | faac -b 128 - -o <out.m4a>
[08:53] <Bohica032> I have no ideas about command lines and such
[08:53] <pwnzorz> linux needs to get rid of console
[08:53] <billy> Bohica032, it can be a little overwhelming.
[08:53] <yooluca> cables cheers mate
[08:53] <cellofellow> help please?  Replace <out> with the name of the output file, in single quotes
[08:53] <Bohica032> i read the LAMP guide, and I'm lost
[08:53] <rowdog> Random12341, you probably need to get "My Torrents" open again, "View | My Torrents" or CTRL+1
[08:54] <yooluca> cables yes .. thanks a lot for your help mate
[08:54] <kraypius> rooy, metacity
[08:54] <procyon> pwnzorz: pwnzorz = pwnzorz--
[08:54] <billy> Bohica032, are you using Edgy?
[08:54] <Random12341> billy: a little? in my opinion, its insane to have any sort of multi tasking OS for general use so dependent on the console. NO ONE in their right mind would wanna use it like that.
[08:54] <cables> yooluca, no problem
[08:54] <yooluca> cables got to go now ...  see yoo
[08:54] <Rooy> kraypius: select Beryl there
[08:54] <cables> yooluca, hold on
[08:54] <kraypius> rooy, woh
[08:54] <cables> damn
[08:54] <pwnzorz> cellofellow: when i use i feel like im back in DOS, not cool for something thats tryin to be revolutionary...
[08:54] <snaidis> How do I uninstall programs using wine?
[08:54] <mattyv> pwnzorz: Windows needs to add a more powerful console, oh hang on...they did in Vista. Maybe because console is great for those who know it
[08:54] <kraypius> JELLO!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:54] <ralph-nader> ropha; It still gives the error.
[08:54] <Rooy> kraypius: :)
[08:54] <Bohica032> no idea... i think so... the 6.06 desktop
[08:54] <ropha> Random12341, right ... so your thinking is servers should always have a GUI, ala Windows?
[08:54] <cables> mattyv, I thought Monad was taken out of vista?
[08:54] <ralph-nader> Even when I try it using sudo.
[08:54] <kraypius> tyvm
[08:54] <gbv22> pwnzorz: you clearly have no idea wht ure takin bout...lol...
[08:54] <cellofellow> pwnzorz: DOS? No way. Linux terminals way way way way better than DOS.
[08:55] <mattyv> cables: their loss then :)
[08:55] <ralph-nader> sudo /usr/bin/camorama -d /dev/video0 etc.
[08:55] <Random12341> ropha, a server is not a "Multi tasking os for general use"
[08:55] <gbv22> pwnzorz: revolutionary!=no console
[08:55] <cellofellow> pwnzorz: when you use the terminal, you are in CONTROL of your computer. Feel the power.
[08:55] <pwnzorz> gbv 22: it uses it way too much... thats all im sayin.
[08:55] <ropha> Random12341, of course it is
[08:55] <billy> Random12341, yes, the console dependecy is a bit too much to ask when it comes to some cases.  There are other distros though.
[08:55] <procyon> pwnzorz: Just because something doesnt have pretty buttons doesnt make it useless. Every day I admin windows systems I wish I had the command line ability of *nix
[08:55] <Random12341> ropha, perhaps you should reread the definition of a server.
[08:56] <ropha> and anyone who doesn't realise the power of the console should go back to Windows
[08:56] <ralph-nader> procyon; Amen.
[08:56] <Rooy> kraypius: for academic purpose, try replace "Xsession gnome-session" with "dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session" :)
[08:56] <gbv22> pwnzorz: true...after the first 3 weeks..u get used to it tho...heck i actually prefer the consol in some instances
[08:56] <ropha> Random12341, yeah right. Perhaps you should learn to use the console
[08:56] <ralph-nader> Console is like Jesus of the *nix biblical world.
[08:56] <Bohica032> what isthe differance between the 6.06 and the 6.10
[08:56] <billy> Bohica032, this is a good guide.  https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[08:56] <Rooy> !edgy
[08:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[08:56] <ralph-nader> Except, it wasn't nailed to a cross.
[08:56] <ropha> procyon, exactly ... for me the worst thing about windows is the lack of a useable shell
[08:56] <cables> Bohica032, one is newer, one will be supported for 3 years.
[08:57] <pwnzorz> gbv 22: console isnt the biggest killer of people migratin from microsoft
[08:57] <procyon> ropha: yup
[08:57] <pwnzorz> is
[08:57] <nalioth> !offtopic
[08:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:57] <Rooy> Bohica032: the highlights are in the release notes
[08:57] <cellofellow> please help with my crazy advanced samba problems. I tried everywhere but no one knows a thing.
[08:57] <ralph-nader> Anywho, it stills gives the same error.
[08:57] <Bohica032> so I guess i should upgrade to 6.10 than?
[08:57] <ralph-nader> I could always search the package manager for another suitable program.
[08:57] <Random12341> ropha, it is clearly ignorant to stick to command line for everything. There is no point in having to memorize the name for the command and all of its options for EVERYTHING. It is ease of use. a simple GUI for anything reduces the errors and time that it takes to run any given application.
[08:58] <billy> Bohica032, not necessarily.
[08:58] <ropha> Random12341, memorize all the options? You should learn about man pages ....
[08:58] <rickyfingers> does anyone here know of a good text editor for programming besides vi or emacs?
[08:58] <ralph-nader> rtfm.
[08:58] <ralph-nader> haha
[08:58] <coopster> gah! does ubuntu's wiki cache things that you make a preview of when you're creating a page?
[08:58] <cellofellow> scite
[08:58] <kraypius> rooy, what will that do?
[08:58] <ralph-nader> Gah, back to packages.
[08:58] <cellofellow> rickyfingers: scite.
[08:58] <mattyv> cellofellow: I assume everywhere means #samba?
[08:58] <kraypius> this is what I have
[08:58] <procyon> rickyringers: gecit?
[08:58] <kraypius> exec /etc/X11/Xsession gnome-session
[08:58] <kraypius> # dbus-launch --exit-with-session
[08:58] <cellofellow> mattyv: yes
[08:59] <procyon> err gedit
[08:59] <rickyfingers> thanks cellofellow, I'll check it out.
[08:59] <Random12341> ropha, again... takes more time to search through all those pages, when a gui is straight foreward. anyways, you are thickheaded and a fanboy, im done argueing with you. :)
[08:59] <cellofellow> mattyv: quiet as a tomb
[08:59] <nospi> anyone know of a good graphical editor like dreamweaver?
[08:59] <nospi> for HTML, PHP, CSS, JS etc
[08:59] <Rooy> kraypius: i can;t test it (nvidia card), just curious out of academic sense
[08:59] <nalioth> nospi: you might try nvu
[08:59] <Matic`Makovec> Hey. How can I mount .iso movie?
[08:59] <cellofellow> nospi: Nvu maybe.
[08:59] <Rooy> kraypius: you know, many ways to do one thing
[08:59] <nospi> nalioth, ok. i'll check it out, thanks
[08:59] <nospi> cellofellow, thanks :)
[08:59] <procyon> Random12341: --help
[08:59] <ropha> Random12341, and if you don't understand the power of the console over a GUI, you clearly haven't used the console. A GUI increases time used ... jeez, where we getting these people
[08:59] <mattyv> cellofellow: Hmm, I setup mine using webmin so I doubt I'll be of help
[08:59] <kraypius> is it bad that I have this commented? # dbus-launch --exit-with-session
[09:00] <kraypius> cause i know the things it tells you to add are to correct issues
[09:00] <cables> Random12341, have you ever actually used the console? Do you know what piping is?
[09:00] <ropha> Random12341, lol, yeah right. I feel sorry for you that the console is too hard for you to figure out. That's why Windows is there for ppl like you. Like classes for special kids at school.
[09:00] <Bohica032> billy can i PM you?
[09:00] <coopster> ropha, a console doesn't restrict input by only offering specific choices with limited options, that obviously makes it inferior and scary
[09:00] <cellofellow> mattyv: I have webmin but the option is just not there.
[09:00] <kraypius> if u want me to change it post me exactly what the line should be
[09:00] <kraypius> so i dont mess it up
[09:00] <rickyfingers> I like gedit, especailly how it colors the text, but once upon a time I had an editor that also auto-completed stuff like function names, cut down on errors a lot.
[09:00] <billy> Bohica032, absolutely.
[09:01] <cables> coopster, inferior? I don't think so...
[09:01] <coopster> rickyfingers, look at eclipse
[09:01] <Rooy> kraypius: ok, just skip that, start customising your experience!! :D
[09:01] <ralph-nader> (camorama:24784): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:01] <ralph-nader> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:01] <coopster> cables, (sarcasm)
[09:01] <ralph-nader> I broke it.
[09:01] <ralph-nader> :(
[09:01] <cellofellow> rickyfingers: DrPython is based off of scite and can do that sort of stuff, for HTML and C/C++ too.
[09:01] <ropha> coopster, exactly ;)
[09:01] <cables> coopster, omg, i just scrolled up and re-read it again and realized that :)
[09:01] <rickyfingers> I'll check out eclipse too, but isn't that for Java?
[09:01] <cables> coopster, when I don't recognize sarcasm, it's time for me to go to bed
[09:01] <procyon> rickyfingers: what lang are you using?
[09:01] <coopster> rickyfingers, it's made with java in mind, but there are plugins for ruby, c++, and i'm sure others
[09:02] <rickyfingers> I mainly use C.
[09:02] <cellofellow> Java has C plugins
[09:02] <coopster> there's a C plugin
[09:02] <ropha> coopster, these people think they were born with an intuitive grasp of windows .. when the truth is, it was foistered upon them, they could barely learn that, and anything that requires learning anything else is beyond them
[09:02] <darkholme> hi again
[09:02] <ropha> !ot|ropha
[09:02] <rickyfingers> let me check out eclipse and DrPython...
[09:02] <darkholme> I have been asking a lot of times the same question
[09:02] <ropha> i thought i'd warn myself
[09:03] <procyon> ropha: haha, nice
[09:03] <darkholme> I hope this time i'll find someone who knows the answer
[09:03] <cables> ropha, the minute I learned about | I was hooked on the cli :)
[09:03] <coopster> ropha, yeah.  that's always the big problem.  when you teach someone that windows [09:03] <Bohica032> WOOHOO I did it!!!
[09:03] <billy> darkholme, what's going on?
[09:03] <rickyfingers> sweet, I see SciTE compiles stuff for me too.
[09:04] <ropha> coopster, yep, and that's what gets me. Heh, i was using 'console' before windows came around, and I'll be using it when it's gone :)
[09:04] <coopster> "Help file?  ahahah, that's what the IT department is for.  you're just crazy if you think i could look up how to do something, if it's not written in big bold letters.  preferably bigger letters than the actual button that does the thing."
[09:04] <catxk> one more thing... I got a 60 GB harddrive in my laptop divided in 20gb for windows and 40gb for files like music etc... I dont mind reinstalling windows and splitting the 20gb, but I dont want to alter the contents of the 40gb partition
[09:04] <catxk> is this at all possible?
[09:04] <Random12341> all you people are close minded fools. It has nothing to do with windows. Its like saying its better to have to drive a car with a hand on each wheel to steer it rather then using a steering wheel.
[09:04] <darkholme> I have been trying with to install ubuntu edgy in a laptop computer Dell XPS M1710 but it is not running the setup...I don't know why... the cd is ok because I have tested it in other machine and it installs fine... and the boot order is ok because Im able to install ubuntu dapper drake
[09:04] <darkholme> i just want to know why I cant run the install of edgy
[09:04] <darkholme> :S
[09:05] <coopster> rickyfingers, i highly recommend eclipse, it does compiling, debugging, CVS and SVN sychronizing, etc...
[09:05] <Bohica032> hey billy, I guess my chat program doesn't allow me to PM you
[09:05] <Random12341> perhaps you just cant handle more then one thing happening at a time, but for multitasking, no person in their right mind would prefer commandline. period.
[09:05] <ropha> Random12341, and again, as anyone with any computer experience hear will tell you, it is more efficient, faster, easier and more precise to use the console
[09:05] <billy> Bohica032, which chat program?
[09:05] <Random12341> lmfao.
[09:05] <cables> darkholme, a bug perhaps? Also try re-burning the CD in case for some reason it's not reading the CD in that computer.
[09:05] <Bohica032> conversation for MAC
[09:05] <ropha> Random12341, come back in a couple years when you have experience with it, and actually know what you are talkiing about
[09:05] <coopster> Random12341, ahahah.  guess what?  how many consoles do you think i can open up?
[09:05] <Bohica032> is there something better out there?
[09:05] <procyon> Random12341: Show me how to quickly parse a log file for events on a certain date, add that data to a new file and ftp that to a server using windows gui
[09:05] <rickyfingers> speaking of installing edgy on a laptop, I convinced my little brother to install it on an inspiron 8100 (dell) last weekend.
[09:05] <darkholme> I think is a bug regarding my cd drive but im not sure
[09:05] <Rooy> Bohica032: no, the freenode server requires registered nicks for PM
[09:05] <ropha> Random12341, go google "screen" ... jeez, is it me, or are these ppl getting dumber?
[09:06] <Rooy> !register | Bohica032
[09:06] <ubotu> Bohica032: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:06] <Random12341> lmfao. you are fools.
[09:06] <coopster> Random12341, GUIs have a purpose.  it is _not_ flexibility.  if you think that, you're missing the point of having a window with buttons instead of an infinitely expandable scripting language.  period.
[09:06] <rickyfingers> When he was finished, the w, s, and x buttons didn't work on the keyboard.
[09:06] <Random12341> all three of you meet ignore. :)
[09:06] <nalioth> ropha: please be civil
[09:06] <billy> Bohica032, look at your left hand column.  You should see my name.  Click on it.
[09:06] <ropha> procyon, heh, i was going to go there too ... with a nice awk script
[09:06] <liuxh> hello,everybody
[09:06] <rickyfingers> Any one know what might be causing the problem (besides a busted keyboard>?
[09:06] <cosmo_> this makes 3 days I have been figting with this and 3 reinstalls, I am running edgy, have a Gforce 6600GT a amptron cs17 CRT on the primary display and a optiquest q71 CRT connected to DVI out(with a CRT converter that came with the card) every time I try and follow the guides I have found to enable both with twinview it toasts the xorg.conf anyone able to help?
[09:06] <liuxh> hello
[09:06] <billy> darkholme, it could be.  the feisty experts are in #ubuntu+1
[09:07] <ajayc> wtf whenevr I open java.freenode.net in firefox it crashes!!! other java apps work
[09:07] <ajayc> any idea?
[09:07] <ropha> procyon, let's pipe some commands with a GUI ... wait a sec ....
[09:07] <darkholme> but ...i tried also with another distro: Zabayon
[09:07] <darkholme> and the same is happening...
[09:07] <procyon> haha
[09:07] <darkholme> Im able to install only ubuntu dapper drake
[09:07] <billy> darkholme, are you sure you have boot from CD enabled in the BIOS?
[09:08] <coopster> eh, either way, linux is not just a console, but windows is (or is trying to be) just a GUI.  i like options. ;)
[09:08] <billy> darkholme, you could always install dapper and then upgrade.
[09:08] <darkholme> yes...It's true...but it takes hours...
[09:08] <Random12341> i dont understand this version of azureus. I think its downloading a torrent. the files have been created in the directory i specified, however, i cant get the azureus to show me anything about whats going on. its a blank window.
[09:08] <darkholme> actually i have right now edgy
[09:08] <darkholme> because i installed dapper and then upgraded
[09:08] <ropha> coopster, and the best thing? I started on a VAX back in the stone ages, and I can still use most of the same commands with todays *nixes
[09:08] <darkholme> but I need a clean edgy
[09:09] <darkholme> :S
[09:09] <procyon> ropha, geez a vax
[09:09] <ropha> procyon, as i say, the stone ages
[09:09] <billy> darkholme, so neither Edgy nor Feisty will install from CD, but Dapper will?
[09:09] <rickyfingers> ouch eclipse won't run because it's saying there's no jre but I thought open office (which I have) uses java?
[09:09] <darkholme> exactly...
[09:10] <cosmo_> on another subject anyone know of a guide for a newbie intro to terminal commands?
[09:10] <procyon> ropha, i didnt even exist when those first came into existance
[09:10] <darkholme> I have tried also with Feisty and it's not running the setup
[09:10] <ropha> procyon, LOL
[09:10] <rickyfingers> cosmo_ not to be a jerk, but try man man
[09:10] <rickyfingers> and man bash
[09:10] <darkholme> even with the alternate cd
[09:10] <darkholme> is very strange
[09:10] <darkholme> :S
[09:10] <billy> cosmo_ : http://www.linux.org/lessons/
[09:10] <mattyv> rickyfingers: Ubuntu ships with the Free Software Foundation java, that's what office uses. Maybe eclipse can't find it
[09:10] <nalioth> !tell cosmo_ about cli
[09:11] <ardchoille> !bash | cosmo_
[09:11] <ubotu> cosmo_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:11] <ropha> cosmo_, or google for general unix commands
[09:11] <kraypius> rooy, why isnt it chaning my emerald themes when I select them?