[10:27] <costello> Dear Sirs, I'm developer for a package that is coming to ubuntu via debian. When checking package details in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/... it seems it would be possible to set up upstream project link in there too -> but does it give any additional value to do so? if someone uses reportbug, it gets mailed to correct maintainer address already..?
[10:28] <costello> And if I'd like to do so, I would need to "crete project" inside launchpad website, even tough the development actually happens elsewhere..?
[10:30] <cjwatson> costello: It doesn't affect notifications, but it may be useful to give people obvious links.  And yes, many LP projects exist to provide code imports or links or what-have-you, they aren't all necessarily full hosted projects.
[10:30] <cjwatson> But you don't have to.
[10:38] <costello> ok, I'll look into creating one..


[23:23] <mparillo> Will II (21.10) take qt-base from KDE or from Qt? I just noticed a version number (5.15.2+kde+r199) on Arch, and saw in their source (https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/blob/packages/qt5-base/trunk/PKGBUILD) that they seem to grab it from https://invent.kde.org/qt/qt/qtbase


[01:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T187: Lubuntu 20.04.2] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T187#4105
[03:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> ooooo so that debhelper is 12 for build-tools on debian side only.
[03:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> I mixed this and micro
[03:21] <The_LoudSpeaker> thought it was 13 on micro so would be same for all new stuff coming from debian.
[03:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> updated https://phab.lubuntu.me/D104
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[19:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> my upload got rejected
[19:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> unable to find lxqt-build-tools_0.8.0.orig.tar.xz in upload or distribution
[19:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> unable to find lxqt-build-tools_0.8.0.orig.tar.xz.asc in upload or distribution
[19:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> files specified in DSC are broken or missing. Skipping package verification
 Did you uscan that
[19:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> I did.
[19:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> followed the packaging tutorial on phab
[19:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> cc: wxl
[19:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> now when I try to re-upload, it says package has already been uploaded.
[19:56] <The_LoudSpeaker> nothing more to do for ../PACKAGENAME_VERSION_source.changes
 I don't see anything building and the last upload is 0.7.0-0ubuntu1 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-build-tools
[20:06] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah, I see that too.
[20:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> but as I said got the following output on trying to reupload.
 Well, just repeating what didn't work probably won't be fruitful. Can you see the files it is looking for on your filesystem?
[20:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> yes
[20:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> there are in ../
[20:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> i.e one folder above
 Ok I am not sure what went wrong.
[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> those two files aren't getting uploaded for some reason.
[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> here's the upload file:
[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> theloudspeaker@hippo-dev:~/build-tools-merge/phab$ cat lxqt-build-tools_0.8.0-1ubuntu1_source.ubuntu.upload
[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> Successfully uploaded lxqt-build-tools_0.8.0-1ubuntu1.dsc to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.
[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> Successfully uploaded lxqt-build-tools_0.8.0-1ubuntu1.debian.tar.xz to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.
[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> Successfully uploaded lxqt-build-tools_0.8.0-1ubuntu1_source.buildinfo to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.
[20:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> Successfully uploaded lxqt-build-tools_0.8.0-1ubuntu1_source.changes to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.
[20:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> kc2bez: can you try uploading once?
[20:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> changes already got commited on phab side. Just need to upload them on launchpad.
 I don't have my vm running right now. It will have to be later.  I've got some other stuff running.
 I don't see the orig tarballs on your upload list ^
[20:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah. idk why they aren't there.
[20:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> they are present in my system tho.
[20:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> right beside the ones that got uploaded.
[20:46] <RikMills> The_LoudSpeaker: what command did you use to build the source package?
[20:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> debuild -S
[20:47] <RikMills> try with 'debuild -S -sa'
[20:48] <RikMills> and then 'dput -f ubuntu'  the changes file
[20:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> I just shut down my system and it the bed.
[20:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> Tomorrow first thing.
 Thanks @RikMills
[20:49] <The_LoudSpeaker> +1
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[03:27] <masuberu> hi
[03:27] <masuberu> has Ubuntu a tool or a way to restore the / file permission?
[03:40] <sarnold> masuberu: if you've changed / to something that then forbids you from running commands, you may not have many options except rebooting into a rescue system
[03:41] <masuberu> ok
[03:41] <sarnold> masuberu: maybe you can run programs via ../../bin/chmod
[03:41] <masuberu> you mean boot from original cd and restore it from there?
[03:41] <sarnold> yeah that should do it
[03:41] <sarnold> what di dyou change it to? :) and how? :)
[03:42] <masuberu> is there an option to fix it on the installation menu on the boot cd?
[03:42] <masuberu> mate, I did the most stupid thing on earth
[03:42] <masuberu> I run sudo chmod -R 777 / nvme
[03:42] <sarnold> ahhhhhhh
[03:42] <masuberu> instead of sudo run chmod -R /nvme
[03:42] <sarnold> so you've got a lot more than just the permissions on / to fix
[03:42] <masuberu> yes
[03:42] <masuberu> basically everything
[03:43] <masuberu> what would you recommend?
[03:43] <sarnold> after a good long cry?
[03:43] <masuberu> is reinstall my only solution?
[03:44] <sarnold> that's the best solution, but you might be able to get away with comparing against another system
[03:44] <sarnold> .. and then manually fixing everything. that doesn't sound like fun though.
[03:45] <masuberu> I thought ubuntu installation cd could fix it
[03:45] <masuberu> choosing an option from the installation menu?
[03:45] <sarnold> afaik debian/ubuntu doesn't have any equivalent of other systems's "expected permissions" tools, and I don't think dpkg has any way to report which permissions are wrong and what they -ought- to be :(
[03:45] <masuberu> hum ok
[03:46] <masuberu> now my problem is that I can't ssh into it ...
[03:46] <sarnold> .. because the permissions are too permissive. oooof.
[03:46] <masuberu> I go to terminal and I can ping outside
[03:46] <masuberu> the ip of the machine is same as before so no network issues
[03:47] <masuberu> does it ring any bell?
[03:47] <sarnold> yeah, ssh is really picky about allowed permissions on its files
[03:48] <sarnold> try first chmod 755 / /etc /etc/ssh /home ~ ; chmod 700 ~/.ssh
[03:50] <masuberu> ok...
[03:50] <masuberu> hasn't complain
[03:50] <masuberu> shall I restart the machine?
[03:55] <sarnold> depends; if you want to just re-install, that's not a bad option. if you want to try to fix it, just keep changing permissions on it until it's fixed.. _then_ reboot
[06:01] <masuberu> i ended up reinstalling
[06:01] <masuberu> :___(
[09:18] <phoenix_> hello
[09:19] <phoenix_> i have configured postfix
[09:19] <phoenix_> when i try echo "Test mail from postfix" | mail -s "Test Postfix"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:19] <phoenix_> echo "Test mail from postfix" | mail -s "Test Postfix"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:19] <phoenix_> i get this error
[09:19] <phoenix_> Can't canonicalize "/home/dahlia/Maildir"
[09:20] <phoenix_> Failed to save message in "/home/dahlia/Maildir/sent" - message not sent
[09:20] <phoenix_> "/home/dahlia/dead.letter" 6/140
[09:20] <phoenix_> what should i do ?
[09:32] <phoenix_> is there someone?
[09:38] <hateball> !patience | phoenix_
[09:38] <hateball> (I don't know)
[09:39] <hateball> phoenix_: Permissions, perhaps? Also there is #postfix
[09:40] <phoenix_> #postfix :Cannot send to channel
[09:45] <hateball> !register | phoenix_
[09:45] <phoenix_> hateball, i have a domain name dahliaco.com and it is configured on a server i need to my customers recieve emails from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:46] <hateball> phoenix_: I don't know anything about postfix so there's no need to direct towards me :)
[09:46] <phoenix_> i dont know how can i do that
[10:35] <phoenix_> omg
[11:39] <pirx> when i install 14.04 i am asked about the Location (of the server i presume). anyone have an idea of where this is saved? or is it seen in e.g. the timezone only?
[12:14] <Xin> hey all whats an easy to install web proxy?
[12:15] <hateball> Xin: nginx
[12:15] <hateball> Xin: or what do you mean by a proxy? does it need to cache things and so on?
[12:15] <hateball> !info squid
[12:16] <Xin> I dont really care about caching
[12:16] <Xin> ill give squid a crack though, thats what ive always heard about
[12:16] <Xin> thanks
[12:25] <Xin> lordy
[12:25] <Xin> this config is complex lol
[12:49] <lamont> pirx: /etc/timezone
[12:50] <foormea> hi. i'm working on a headless server and i'm about to change its mobo. do i have a way to predict the network interface name with the new mobo? with ethX renamed in enXXXX i'm a bit wary of screwing up my config (and i have no access to console or serial on that headless server)
[12:50] <patdk-wk> yes
[12:50] <patdk-wk> or add a udev rule
[12:52] <foormea> mh, could you explain further how to predict the name, or how to add the udev rule, or point me to some doc? :) sorry i'm a bit clueless right now :/
[12:54] <ogra_> the location also makes apt pick the closest server for your sources.list
[13:00] <foormea> patdk-wk, got it: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/    thanks for the hint!
[13:02] <pirx> lamont: thanks!
[13:33] <foormea> back to my question about predictable network interface naming: can i somehow have both the predictable (enpXsY...) AND the former standard (ethX) pointing to the same device?
[13:34] <foormea> this way i'd be able to configure my eth0 during the motherboard change
[13:34] <foormea> as it's gonna be tricky to know the "predictable" name for that specific slot on that new mobo :/
[13:34] <ogra_> you mean the unpredictable names taht everyone knew from the top of his head ? :)
[13:35] <ogra_> you can drop "predictable names" completely by setting net.ifname=0 on your kernel commandline
[13:35] <ogra_> that will switch bac to the old behaviour
[13:35] <Odd_Bloke> *net.ifnames=0
[13:36] <foormea> well i don't really wanna do that: i don't wanna use an older standard. i'd like to have both ethX and enpXsY for a bit, so that i'll know after mobo change the new iface name
[13:36] <foormea> if i disable it altogether, i won't know the new name under predictable scheme
[13:36] <ogra_> ah, thanks for the correction (and sorry)
[13:37] <foormea> i'm thinking of having a script run at bootup that dumps "ip a" into a file, boot with new mobo
[13:37] <foormea> reboot with old mobo and see the file
[13:37] <foormea> modify config accordingly...
[13:37] <foormea> that's a bit overkill
[13:38] <foormea> but i have no serial/screen/keyboard AND i have no usb HDD reader
[13:38] <Odd_Bloke> foormea: No DHCP server?
[13:38] <foormea> i have a dhcp running on the network yeah
[13:38] <foormea> bt
[13:38] <foormea> but
[13:38] <foormea> if that iface is not told in /etc/network/interfaces to come up... it won't, will it?
[13:39] <foormea> and the thing is, i need to be EXACT in what i'm doing, or i lose my server until i get a screen/keyboard/etc for it :/
[13:42] <Odd_Bloke> foormea: Well, you can specify configuration for both eth0 and $new_name and still have the option to switch back to the old mobo, right?
[13:42] <foormea> any thoughts, anything obvious i haven't thought of (apart from reverting to older ethX naming scheme)?
[13:42] <Odd_Bloke> https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/493546-How-to-predict-predictable-network-interface-names <-- there's a script there which purports to tell you the predictable name
[13:42] <foormea> yeeeeeeeeeh
[13:42] <Odd_Bloke> (Note that I had to change the path of lspci, but it worked for me)
[13:42] <foormea> ohhhh let me see
[13:43] <foormea> in that case i'd revert to ethX scheme, change mobo, check the "predictable" name with that script, revert config to predictable
[13:43] <Odd_Bloke> foormea: Right, because you don't actually have the system booted with the new hardware.
[13:43] <foormea> yep
[13:44] <foormea> aright very good, very helpful that link you just gave me
[13:44] <foormea> anyway the background story is: i'm sort of scavenging hardware
[13:44] <foormea> and just got a hold of a newer mobo/cpu than what i had
[13:45] <foormea> argh grrr i hope virtualisation is enabled in that mobo's bios...
[13:46] <Odd_Bloke> foormea: TBH, you might be best off scavenging a keyboard/monitor and doing this another day. ;)
[13:47] <foormea> yeah perhaps you're right, but i like a challenged
[13:47] <foormea> challenge
[13:48] <foormea> well thanks for the tips, i'll give it a thought and let you know how it went if i end up doing it
[13:50] <Tegu> I had to move a 16.04 usb installation to another machine and had the same naming issue. fortunately, I could connect the other machine to a monitor and check the name there. but I kinda wished it could be automagic :)
[13:56] <foormea> oh well i'll go ahead for that solution: revert to older naming scheme, get the new name, revert to newer naming scheme
[13:57] <foormea> worst case it screw it up and won't be able to use it for a few days -- found a keyboard, but i'll need to find a vga cable which i can find in 3 days
[14:00] <foormea> so i add net.ifnames=0 to end of line "linux   /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-28-generic root=UUID=8c3f5192-2348-45f9-ad7f-83360f82589b ro" in my /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[14:01] <foormea> or... http://askubuntu.com/questions/19486/how-do-i-add-a-kernel-boot-parameter might be better
[14:06] <Dulcin> Hi does ubuntu have a default mail server enabled? I just uninstalled postfix, i dont want my testserver to send out mails
[14:06] <Dulcin> I probably installed postfix myself I dont remember, but is there anything else I should worry about?
[14:06] <Dulcin> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 by the way
[14:18] <Xin> I need a romanian or estonian or somesuchhh
[14:19] <phoenix_> hello
[14:20] <phoenix_> i am configuring postfix
[14:20] <phoenix_> when i use  echo "This is the body of the email" | mail -s "This is the subject line"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:20] <phoenix_> i get this error
[14:21] <phoenix_> Failed to save message in "/home/dahlia/Maildir/sent" - message not sent
[14:21] <phoenix_> "/home/dahlia/dead.letter" 6/159
[14:25] <Xin> anyone know a CHEAP vps provider in like, estonia/romania etc regions?
[14:28] <patdk-wk> lowendbox.com
[14:33] <yoink> KVM issues with 16.04 - basically I run a bunch of 14.04 virual machines (on a 16.04 host) without issue. However I can't seem to connect/setup 16.04 in KVM. Whether I update a working 14.04 VM to 16.04 or start with 16.04 from scratch, it won't get to the console to login.
[14:34] <yoink> I'm using libguestfs mostly - so virt-builder and virt-install and managing the vms through Virsh.
[14:35] <rbasak> yoink: uvtool works on 16.04 to start a 16.04 instance. AFAIK cloud images as published work with 16.04's KVM. So I wonder what virt-builder/virt-install are doing differently?
[14:36] <yoink> rbasak: I'll check with the #libguestfs folks. Other images work fine... maybe it's time to learn a new toolset! :)
[14:36] <yoink> Reading up on uvtool now. :)
[14:37] <rbasak> yoink: well the paths are certainly going to be very different. If there is a bug somewhere, it could be in libvirt for example, or just a change in behaviour that causes something unintended. My question is really more about identifying what that thing is to determine where the bug might be.
[14:37] <rbasak> I've just verified that uvtool successfully started:
[14:37] <rbasak> release=xenial arch=amd64 label=daily (20160707)
[14:38] <yoink> I hear that - I'm just running out of playtime. :)
[14:38] <rbasak> On a Xenial host (that isn't fully up to date probably, but was installed with Xenial freshly after release)
[14:39] <caribou> rharper: are you still planning on merging multipath-tools ?
[14:39] <yoink> rbasak: I have an idea... brb.
[14:45] <caribou> rbasak: rharper: we've just got a multipath-tools patch accepted by multipath-tools's upstream
[14:46] <caribou> rbasak: rharper: we'll do the submittodebian legwork but I thought that you might want to keep an eye on this one
[14:50] <caribou> rbasak: rharper: FYI, it's LP: #1570093
[15:00] <LaserAllan_> hey there, ive got a question, I have a couple of nfs folders that I want to be mounted at startup, should those commands be written with sudo in the rc.local script?
[15:04] <mdeslaur> LaserAllan_: no, add the mounts you want to /etc/fstab
[15:08] <LaserAllan_> mdeslaur: Oh, ok, what is rc.local then for launching applications and so on?, ive probably just missunderstood it all
[15:08] <LaserAllan_> but thanks
[15:08] <LaserAllan_> but should the nfs mount commands be added with sudo or is it automatic sudo on those?
[15:09] <mdeslaur> you don't directly add the commands, look at the file, you just need to add an entry to it
[15:09] <riz0n> Hello guys, I have an HP DL380 G3 server that I have installed Ubuntu LTS on. No GUI. Is there a way to change the system from loading the ATI Rage drivers to just loading Generic VGA drivers? The ATI drivers are causing my system to crash after so long of running.
[15:09] <mdeslaur> LaserAllan_: rc.local is run with root privileges, so anything you put in there doesn't need sudo
[15:17] <riz0n> Righ now, as it stands, when the system boots, eventually the system changes and the size of the letters on the screen get very, very small. I want standard VGA with the big letters. Any help would be appreciated!
[15:18] <LaserAllan_> mdeslaur: Is it the same with fstab?
[15:18] <LaserAllan_> Since i need to put the nfs mount commands in there
[15:18] <mdeslaur> LaserAllan_: the mounts in fstab are mounted as root, yes
[15:18] <mdeslaur> LaserAllan_: but you don't put commands in that file
[15:23] <LaserAllan_> mdeslaur: So where do I put them then?
[15:24] <mdeslaur> LaserAllan_: you put them in /etc/fstab, but not the commands. that file is a list, you just add what you want to the list.
[15:24] <mdeslaur> see here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man5/fstab.5.html
[15:26] <LaserAllan_> mdeslaur: Hmm, i have never really done this before so what do I put ther ethen to amek nfs folders mount on startup on my other host?
[15:27] <mdeslaur> something like "servername:dir /mntpoint nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0"
[15:27] <mdeslaur> see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[15:28] <LaserAllan_> mdeslaur: Thanks
[15:48] <riz0n> OK guys, I uncommented a line in the Grub config that put it in 640x480 then "update-grub" and it booted into 640x480. Any way to see what video drivers are loading and change them to just standard VGA? Or should it be standard VGA since there is no GUI?
[15:50] <nacc> !crosspost | riz0n
[15:51] <nacc> riz0n: what version of ubuntu?
[15:52] <riz0n> nacc, 14.04.21
[15:52] <riz0n> Oops 14.04
[15:52] <riz0n> whatever the latest rel is
[15:53] <nacc> riz0n: the latest release is 16.04 :)
[15:53] <riz0n> Well, the latest 14.04 rel ;)
[15:53] <riz0n> I want to say it's 14.04.3
[15:53] <riz0n> I'mts
[15:54] <teward> 14.04.4 is the latest point release :)
[15:54] <nacc> riz0n: ok, i think you should check what lspci says for your graphics device as to the driver in-use (and/or lshw)
[15:54] <riz0n> e that doesn't really matter, I'm on 14.04 LTS
[15:54]  * teward goes back to lurking
[15:54] <nacc> riz0n: it does matter, actually (given that you have different kernels, and stacks with each hwe stack, potentially)
[15:54] <riz0n> and my remote desktop is acting goofy
[15:54] <riz0n> This system is using the 4.2.0-41 kernel
[15:55] <riz0n> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. AMD/ATI Rage XL PCI rev 27
[15:57] <nacc> lscpi -vvv -s <pci address> of that device
[15:57] <nacc> riz0n: will tell you the kernel module in use
[16:00] <riz0n> Thanks so much guys. I know this DL380-G3 server is quite ancient, but it
[16:01] <riz0n> it's rock solid till the NMI PCI error happens (and I've traced it to the video).  Plus I don't have the money to buy a new server yet.
[16:02] <riz0n> The error is "NMI: PCI system error (SERR) for reason b1 on CPU 0" Dazed and confused, but trying to continue
[16:05] <patdk-wk> hmm, I dunno I would bother messing with it much
[16:05] <patdk-wk> serr says the video card is bad
[16:05] <patdk-wk> throw in a pcie video card to replace it with
[16:05] <patdk-wk> and move on
[16:12] <rbasak> nacc: I'm a little confused as to why php7.0-mysql's {mysqlnd,mysqli,pdo_mysql}.so don't link to libmysqlclient at all. Could this be a bug? They did in PHP 5 in Trusty.
[16:12] <rbasak> Or are they statically linking by accident or something?
[16:19] <nacc> rbasak: looking
[16:20] <rbasak> nacc: no urgency. I'll ignore it for now.
[16:22] <rattking> Hello all, I would like to spawn a custom shell on one tty.. I am not sure how to do this since the switch to systemd. does anyone know where that is configured now? It use to be configured in /etc/init/tty?.conf
[16:23] <nacc> rattking: afaict, /etc/init/tty?.conf still exist with systemd
[16:23] <rattking> oh perhaps there is another reason its not working then.. thanks
[16:23] <rbasak> I don't think they're used though, are they?
[16:24] <rbasak> AIUI, /lib/systemd/system/getty* are what are used now.
[16:24] <nacc> unclear :/
[16:24] <rbasak> And you can override with /etc/systemd/system/
[16:24] <nacc> ah it does seem to be there now
[16:24] <nacc> rbasak: another case like our init.d discussion of confusing end-results :)
[16:25] <rbasak> Indeed.
[16:25] <rattking> heh
[16:25] <rbasak> It's a consequence of Debian supporting multiple init systems.
[16:26] <rattking> I will take a look around in /lib/systemd/system/getty* thanks for the tip
[16:31] <rattking> got it!
[16:34] <nacc> rattking: nice, congrats! :)
[16:46] <jrwren> anyone ever see this kind of systemd message? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/18798467/  "Failed to foward REleased message"  it just spews to syslog every few seconds.
[16:58] <Toraxmalu> hi
[16:58] <Toraxmalu> hase someone experience with xen?
[16:58] <Toraxmalu> after installing xen-hypervisor-amd64 i was confronted with a boot-loop
[17:01] <PryMar56> Toraxmalu, is your system EFI?
[17:01] <Toraxmalu> yepp
[17:01] <Toraxmalu> it is
[17:04] <PryMar56> Toraxmalu,  dpkg -l xen-hyper*amd64 | grep -i efi
[17:04] <Toraxmalu> is there a known issue? I've read, that there are is the advise to switch back to BIOS, but that is simply not possible for my case
[17:04] <Toraxmalu> -are
[17:04] <PryMar56> maybe there is an efi boot blob in the *.deb
[17:04] <PryMar56> xen.efi
[17:05] <PryMar56> maybe not
[17:05] <Toraxmalu> err...
[17:05] <Toraxmalu> and that means?
[17:05] <PryMar56> Toraxmalu, upstream xen includes source for the xen.efi. Not sure is Xenial packages/builds it
[17:06] <Toraxmalu> okay - you're talking to a windows-power-user... and i understand, that xenial possible didn't compile that important stuff - do you have a link or something, so i can build that thing by myself?
[17:07] <Toraxmalu> (howto would be nive - sorry)
[17:20] <Toraxmalu> PryMar56 - I've found the Issue-List
[17:20] <Toraxmalu> it is simply not possible with UEFI with ubuntu 16.04
[17:21] <Toraxmalu> well - thank you for your efforts
[17:21] <Toraxmalu> and sorry for the distrubence


[01:46] <surgy> hello
[01:46] <surgy> can someone help me set up my graphics tablet please? i need to be able to configure it and change it to left handed use and change the button configuration. it currently works like a mouse
[01:46] <surgy> its a huion 580 graphics tablet. and it currently works but i need to be able to configure it. rotate it to left handed use and cange the buttons. it does not show up under input devices >> graphics tablets
[01:50] <JanC> surgy: this channel is for running Ubuntu on tablets & phones & such  :)
[01:51] <JanC> surgy: and maybe the graphics program(s) you are using have some settings you can change, but otherwise I have no idea  :-(
[01:56] <surgy> JanC, oh the guys in #ubuntu sent me here grrrrr
[05:37] <Mundy> hello guys, may I ask u for help?  I came to passwd command... Through terminal I have changed my password on the same as it was before ( so basicly no change was made)... everything in terminal was smooth, till lock screen comes.. It says im using wrong passcode...
[05:57] <Mundy> maybe there is some way on desktop how to bypass lockscreen, when u forgot ur pass.. but im hopeless with mobile device...
[09:02] <padmahas> Hello all
[09:03] <padmahas> I searched the web but cannot find where can I buy Ubuntu phone in India
[09:07] <svij> padmahas: hi! you may can buy it here: http://store.bq.com/gl/ but there will be some news about the india launch next week
[09:07] <svij> on monday, to be specific
[09:10] <padmahas> Oh thank you "svij". Hope it will be available as soon as possible
[09:11] <svij> it was planned for end of july, so it'll probably start next week or the week after
[09:12] <padmahas> mm.... good to know... I had subscribed to touch newsletter. But got no news about their launch in India
[09:13] <svij> yep, next week ;)
[09:13] <svij> I'm one of those "Ubuntu Phone Insiders" we are getting the news a few days/weeks earlier
[09:51] <jnxd> is it true the BQ ubuntu phones are now available worldwide!?
[13:19] <ali1234> ogra_: (or anyone) can you remember approximately when the ubuntu touch root switcheroo happened? i mean the switch from android having the main root fs, to android being inside a chroot
[14:02] <ogra_> ali1234, about 2.5 years ago
[14:03] <ali1234> what month?
[14:03] <ogra_> dunno
[14:03] <ali1234> 2.5 years is too long
[14:03] <ogra_> no
[14:03] <ali1234> that puts it in feb 2013
[14:03] <ogra_> o know for sure i wrote the documentation for it a while after we had images with it 1-2 months
[14:03] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ContainerArchitecture?action=info
[14:04] <ali1234> touch preview was released in feb 2013... it was a few months before the flip
[14:04] <ogra_> yeah, somewhere after feb ... but pretty soon
[14:04] <ali1234> i'm updating the ports wiki page to separate out the abandoned ports
[14:04] <ogra_> it was the first thing i worked on after the preview
[14:05] <ali1234> and i need an arbitrary cut off date
[14:05] <ogra_> well, the cutoff date doesnt really matter, if a port uses the old preview rootfs you can wipe it ... the rootfs is gone
[14:06] <ali1234> hmm okay
[14:06] <ogra_> we cleaned up all old images, so only recnet ports will work anyway
[14:06] <ogra_> *recent
[14:06] <ali1234> i'm going on "anything not updated since 2013", explicitly discontinued by author, or broken download links
[14:06] <ali1234> for a first pass
[14:06] <ogra_> +1
[14:07] <ali1234> that covers like 95% of all ports already
[14:07] <ali1234> community ones that is
[14:10] <ali1234> hmm make that 80%... 8 out of the first 40 i looked at seem to not fit any of those categories


[02:59] <entry_lvl_dev> i cant rdp into my server..i installed ubuntu-mate and followed some online insturctions.,.. im able to rdp but the screen stays blue after i log in
[02:59] <entry_lvl_dev> the desktokp envorinment doesnt load all the way
[05:56] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:55] <blackflow> teward: ping! I've analyzed and traced down the issue I had with nginx+http2. The problem is in fact with nginx. If the connection is slow or has high(er) number of tcp retries, nginx will stop sending pipelined content within a http2 request.
[08:04] <blackflow> teward: apparently consistently after ~17 seconds.
[08:07] <blackflow> teward: now I do have send_timeout set to 15s, but that's supposed to be timeout between two successive write ops. does that option have a different meaning with http2 now?
[13:17] <coreycb> sahid: nova 19.0.1 uploaded to disco unapproved queue. thanks.
[13:23] <sahid> coreycb: ack
[14:23] <teward> blackflow: i don't see a bug open for you :P  The tricky part is a reproducible test case :p
[14:23] <teward> blackflow: that sounds like something Upstream should see though, at nginx, for them to debug
[14:23] <teward> and I don't see a reproducible test case anywhere other than your setup.
[14:31] <coreycb> jamespage, sahid: i'm going to merge openstack-pkg-tools from experimental. it's basically all debconf changes.
[14:35] <sahid> coreycb: ack
[14:37] <coreycb> sahid: worth noting we don't use debconf in the openstack ubuntu packages except for ones that originate in debian (the
[14:37] <coreycb> (the core packages we sync from debian will have debconf - zaqar, sahara, etc)
[14:38] <blackflow> teward: right, that's the part I'm trying to pin down now.
[14:44] <coreycb> jamespage: sahid: turns out everything we've been carrying has been merged into debian openstack-pkg-tools so i'll sync that (ie. syncpackage openstack-pkg-tools experimental) assuming it builds ok
[14:44] <coreycb> i mean, syncpackage -d experimental openstack-pkg-tools
[14:59] <teward> sdeziel: so I don't have any single-core test environments for any distro, but if I don't hear any "problems" in the next week or two I'll include that patch.
[15:00] <teward> I need to do a patch for Eoan but I should probably figure out which PHP version's going to be in it
[15:00] <teward> rbasak: is nacc still a good POC for PHP or is someone else handling PHP this cycle?
[15:00] <sdeziel> teward: cool. re single-core it's easy with lxd: lxc config set foo limits.cpu 1
[15:01] <teward> sdeziel: ya but i'm lazy and I meant in *prod* :p
[15:01] <teward> like a production site I can test with that's straight internet facing :p
[15:01] <teward> so unless you or Canonical want to loan me $8 for a 1-core KVM VPS with crap memory... :P
[15:01] <teward> all my stuff's dual core or better
[15:05] <teward> actually... *wonders about something*
[15:18] <teward> i might be able to deploy this in my cloud and test with a direct IP but I'm busy at work.
[15:18] <teward> this be a weekend task xD
[15:39] <Ademan-remote> I"m trying to run the 18.04.2 server alternate installer from an iso on a thumb drive, and I've booted to the point where the installer is running, and it's failing at "Detect and mount CD-ROM". I can mount the iso file just fine from the busybox command line, can I just mount it in the right place and/or point the installer to it?
[15:41] <Ademan-remote> Ah, gonna try this `mount -o loop path/to/iso/file/UBUNTUSERVER.ISO /cdrom'
[15:44] <nacc> Ademan-remote: i think maybe you did the wrong thing -- you don't usually boot the ISO, you write the ISO to the thumb drive itself and boot from the thumb drive.
[15:45] <Ademan-remote> the installer *really* wants to treat /dev/sdc1 as the cdrom: "Searching for Ubuntu installation media..." "Devices: '/dev/sdc1'"
[15:45] <nacc> Ademan-remote: i've not tried what you are suggesting, I don't know if it will work
[15:45] <Ademan-remote> nacc: it's *supposed* to be possible with EFI, and I'm booted, it's just the installer that's choking at this point
[15:46] <nacc> Ademan-remote: just don't know if it's an actually supported thing in ubuntu :)
[15:46] <nacc> (or tested)
[15:46] <Ademan-remote> that's fair haha
[15:48] <Ademan-remote> oh my goodness...
[15:49] <Ademan-remote> the problem was when I hit "Ok" acknowledging the problem mounting the CD-ROM, it was unmounting /cdrom for me... so I had to OK it first, then mount to /cdrom...
[15:50] <Ademan-remote> I did notice it was unmounting /cdrom but I didn't notice *when* it was happening heh
[15:52] <Ademan-remote> ( so `mount -o /foo/bar/baz/quux.iso /cdrom' actually works, just be careful what the installer is doing heh)
[15:52] <Ademan-remote> ...now to name this new box ;-)
[16:26] <teward> nacc: who handles PHP stuff now?
[16:28] <powersj> teward, working on getting someone on the team spun up on that
[16:28] <powersj> teward, something come up?
[16:49] <teward> powersj: nah, nothing of critical note, just need to know the php-fpm 'path' it's going to be dropping the socket into
[16:49] <teward> because https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1831748
[16:49] <teward> not SRUable but DEFINITELY fixable for Eoan
[16:50] <teward> and since I think it's version number dependent, want to make sure I know the version landing for Eoan
[17:05] <nacc> teward: sorry was afk
[17:06] <teward> nacc: no problem
[17:06] <nacc> tbh i've not looked at php in some time. I know that's not great. I am happy to assist anyone who is looking to take it over from server (cc: powersj :)
[17:07] <teward> lol
[17:07] <teward> nacc: i was just curious what version was landing xD
[21:03] <keithzg[m]> Hmm is it expected that an 18.04 server with livepatching enabled would still be reporting 4.15.0-50 despite 4.15.0-51 being out? (I'm probably just misunderstanding something basic here.)
[21:04] <sdeziel> keithzg[m]: yes, that's normal. Live patches won't change what uname reports
[21:05] <sdeziel> keithzg[m]: furthermore, you also should/need to deploy regular patches so that when you reboot you get the -51 kernel proper
[21:07] <keithzg[m]> sdeziel: Ah, so 4.15.0-50.54-generic is equivalent to 4.15.0-51-generic? And yeah, I have unattended-upgrades set to automatically install all security updates anyways, in fact that's what triggered me noticing this, since the  -51 kernel was installed and so now the machine in question is reporting reboot-required.
[21:08] <sdeziel> keithzg[m]: not equivalent, no
[21:08] <sdeziel> keithzg[m]: live patches are only provided for (some?) security patches *when possible*
[21:08] <keithzg[m]> Ah, fair
[21:10] <sdeziel> keithzg[m]: you can check which CVEs are live patched with: canonical-livepatch status --verbose
[21:11] <keithzg[m]> sdeziel: Apparently currently none, since `canonical-livepatch status --verbose` gives identical output to `canonical-livepatch status`, to my surprise (both the version and fixes entries are just "").
[21:13] <sdeziel> keithzg[m]: so either the live patches were not published yet or Canonical decided the only CVE was negligible enough to not worth providing live patches
[21:14] <sdeziel> or maybe not even live patch'able since it was essentially ripping out a.out support IIRC
[21:16] <keithzg[m]> sdeziel: Makes sense
[21:16] <sdeziel> keithzg[m]: the notes in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2019/CVE-2019-11191.html mention this CVE only affecting i386 and is rated negligible. I don't even think live patches are made available for i386
[21:17] <keithzg[m]> Yeah and the server I have in question sure isn't running i386 anyways, heh
[22:25] <sudoISS> So, if `sudo adduser username` creates the user "username", wouldn't `sudo adduser username groupname` make "groupname" "username"'s primary group?
[23:12] <OerHeks> no, secondary, the primary group is used by default when creating new files (or directories), modifying files, or executing commands.


[03:26] <gecko89> wondering if anyone can help with a LAMP server?
[03:26] <gecko89> I only have the LA
[03:28] <gecko89> i've installed the php module, it doesn't seem to be working... phpinfo() yields a blank page
[03:29] <ajmitch> what did you install? libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[03:29] <gecko89> yes
[03:29] <ajmitch> do you have php5.conf & php5.load symlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ?
[03:29] <gecko89> let me check
[03:30] <gecko89> I added the files.. is there some special way to handle them?
[03:30] <ajmitch> added, how?
[03:30] <gecko89> cp
[03:30] <ajmitch> did you just create the symlinks?
[03:31] <gecko89> no, what's a symlink?
[03:31] <ajmitch> uh oh
[03:31] <ajmitch> best to just remove the files you copied, and use a2enmod
[03:32] <ajmitch> specifically, a2enmod php5
[03:32] <gecko89> how do i use a2enmod
[03:32] <gecko89> oh its just a command
[03:33] <gecko89> alright lemme try restarting apache
[03:33] <ajmitch> once you restart apache, check /var/log/apache2/error.log
[03:34] <ajmitch> you'd see a line similar to:
[03:34] <ajmitch> [Wed May 30 07:36:43 2007]  [notice]  Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/4.4.4-8+etch1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[03:34] <ajmitch> if it is loaded
[03:34] <gecko89> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/xmlrpc.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/xmlrpc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[03:34] <gecko89> [Thu May 31 20:44:35 2007]  [notice]  Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[03:35] <ajmitch> interesting
[03:36] <gecko89> still getting a blank page
[03:36] <ajmitch> you've installed php5 only from ubuntu repositories?
[03:36] <ajmitch> not using getdeb.net or similar?
[03:36] <gecko89> i did apt-get install php5-common
[03:39] <gecko89> this is all a little different, i previously ran an apache 1 server with php 4 on windows
[03:41] <ajmitch> are you trying to load an xmlrpc extension in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini ?
[03:41] <gecko89> let's see here
[03:42] <gecko89> i don't think so, the only reference to xmlrpc in php.ini is:    [xmlrpc]
[03:42] <gecko89> ;xmlrpc_error_number = 0
[03:42] <gecko89> ;xmlrpc_errors = 0
[03:45] <ajmitch> interesting, I wonder why it's trying to load it. anyway, it's in the php5-xmlrpc package
[03:45] <ajmitch> and your sample phpinfo page, where is it?
[03:45] <gecko89> /var/www/
[03:45] <gecko89> document root
[03:46] <ajmitch> right, using long tags?
[03:46] <gecko89> this is what it is...

[03:47] <gecko89> <?php phpinfo();
[03:47] <gecko89> ?>

[03:48] <ajmitch> ok, which works fine for me
[03:48] <ajmitch> it does have a .php extension?
[03:48] <gecko89> yes
[03:49] <gecko89> at first firefox wouldn't recognize it, but i added the file type to apache2.conf
[03:49] <ajmitch> right, how did you add it?
[03:49] <gecko89> i just installed the php5-xmlrpc package, it no longer does the same error
[03:49] <ajmitch> that addition should probably be removed now
[03:50] <ajmitch> since php5.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled has the right configuration syntax to use
[03:50] <gecko89> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml
[03:52] <gecko89> took it out, still getting just a blank page
[03:52] <gecko89> apache gives an error apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[03:52] <gecko89> i dont think that has anything to do with it though
[03:52] <ajmitch> no, it shouldn't
[03:52] <ajmitch> nothing else in error.log?
[03:53] <gecko89>  nothing
[03:55] <hads> :)
[03:55] <gecko89> i have webmin installed, would that be causing any trouble?
[03:55] <ajmitch> webmin causes all sorts of troubles
[03:55] <ajmitch> which is why it was removed from debian & ubuntu
[03:55] <gecko89> how do i remove it
[03:56] <ajmitch> problem is how it can end up mangling configuration files
[03:56] <ajmitch> hads: situation is, php5 module appears loaded, everything in the right place, phpinfo() isn't spitting out anything
[03:56] <gecko89> it hasn't helped me any way so im fine with parting with it
[03:56] <ajmitch> hi ibeardslee :)
[03:57] <ibeardslee> hi ajmitch
[04:03] <gecko89> alright, i removed webmin
[04:03] <gecko89> still blank, heh
[04:04] <gecko89> is there any special change i need to make to apache2.conf, or did the add-module part take care of everything?
[04:04] <gecko89> er, mods-enabled
[04:05] <ajmitch> no, unless webmin broke the config :)
[04:06] <gecko89> well im checking paths and stuff, it's pointing to the right place
[04:06] <gecko89> php5.load:  LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[04:06] <gecko89> and libphp5.so is there
[04:06] <gecko89> i see php5.conf took care of the file types
[04:06] <hads> Is phpinfo showing anything? The source file?
[04:06] <ajmitch> and does /etc/apache2/apache2.conf have these 2 lines?
[04:06] <ajmitch> Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load
[04:06] <ajmitch> Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf
[04:07] <gecko89> ajmitch, lemme check
[04:07] <gecko89> hads, the source file is showing the php script...
[04:08] <gecko89> yeah, that's screwed up
[04:08] <gecko89> ajmitch, it has both those lines just like that
[04:09] <ajmitch> hads: we know from apache's error.log that php is loaded at least
[04:09] <hads> is php5.conf linked in? That will give it the filetypes to process.
[04:10] <gecko89> yup, linked it
[04:10] <gecko89> i first had that part wrong
[04:10] <hads> It could be that the module is loaded but no file types are assigned so they aren't being processed.
[04:10] <gecko89> <IfModule mod_php5.c>
[04:10] <gecko89>   AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3
[04:10] <gecko89>   AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps

[04:10] <gecko89> that's in php5.conf
[04:11] <hads> Can you pastebin the output of ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[04:11] <hads> (not here, in a pastebin).
[04:12] <gecko89> how do i do a pastebin
[04:12] <hads> http://pastebin.ca
[04:13] <gecko89> http://pastebin.ca/526947
[04:15] <hads> Odd.
[04:16] <ajmitch> rather
[04:17] <gecko89> indubitably
[04:17] <hads> Of course apache has been restarted? :)
[04:18] <gecko89> quite a bit yeah
[04:18] <ajmitch> hads: even checked that it's a file with a .php extension in /var/www :)
[04:19] <hads> With `sudo invoke-rc.d apache restart` or `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart`
[04:19] <hads> ajmitch: :)
[04:19] <gecko89> [Thu May 31 21:03:37 2007]  [notice]  Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[04:19] <gecko89> [Thu May 31 21:07:22 2007]  [error]  [client <IP_ADDRESS>]  File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico
[04:19] <gecko89> [Thu May 31 21:18:28 2007]  [notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[04:19] <gecko89> [Thu May 31 21:18:38 2007]  [notice]  Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[04:19] <gecko89> i did it the /etc/init.d way
[04:19] <ajmitch> which should be equivalent
[04:20] <hads> Yeah, just making sure that you did a full restart
[04:20] <hads> (not a reload or something)
[04:20] <gecko89> just how you wrote it
[04:20] <hads> Well I'm out of ideas.
[04:20] <ajmitch> hads: which is why I called for ideas :)
[04:21] <gecko89> i haven't actually restarted the PC, but honestly that shouldn't be needed on linux, right?
[04:21] <ajmitch> certainly not
[04:22] <gecko89> two pieces of software made to go together, won't go together
[04:26] <ibeardslee> I have the full path in the link if that would make a difference?
[04:27] <ibeardslee> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   37 2006-12-20 21:13 php5.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.load
[04:27] <ajmitch> shouldn't matter, works fine for me with a relative symlink
[04:28] <gecko89> that's the exact same filepath and even filename i've got
[04:29] <gecko89> the apache portion of the server works fine, its just the php isn't taking
[04:30] <ibeardslee> it's just returning source of the php file?
[04:31] <gecko89> right

[04:31] <gecko89> <?php phpinfo();
[04:31] <gecko89> ?>

[04:33] <gecko89> well gentlemen, looks like i might have to tackle this another time
[04:33] <gecko89> thank you for all your help
[04:34] <ajmitch> alright, sorry it's not working yet
[04:34] <gecko89> oh, i probably made a stupid mistake somewhere along the line... i'll go over the steps again later
[04:34] <gecko89> thank you again though
[04:34] <ibeardslee> does it work from the command line?
[04:34] <ibeardslee> shit
[04:35] <ibeardslee> I mean too late
[04:36] <ajmitch> ah well
[04:38] <fujin_> I'm tryign to find libgd for PHP in the latest Feisty server. I cannot seem to locate it, there isn't a libgd-php
[04:38] <fujin_> any idea what I need to install to have gd functionality?
[04:39] <fujin_> nevermind
[04:39] <fujin_> I'm a retard, lol
[04:41] <pc_> Hello could someone help me with xserver problem?
[04:42] <pc_> HEY CAn SOMEONE HELP ME ?
[04:42] <ibeardslee> maybe, not if you shout though.  what is your xserver problem?
[04:43] <pc_> okay when i type startx, it brings up something about FreeFontPath, and /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc refcount is 2 should be 1, fixin. Then stops x.
[04:45] <pc_> any ideas?
[04:46] <ibeardslee> the first though that goes through my mind is that the config is wrong and has too many lines in it
[04:46] <ibeardslee> about the fonts
[04:46] <pc_> well i went through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:47] <ibeardslee> have a look at  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:48] <pc_> already did looks fine
[04:48] <ibeardslee> see if it has /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc in there twice
[04:48] <pc_> okay be right back
[04:48] <pc_> in this through irssi
[04:48] <pc_> so be right back
[04:54] <pc_> hey I tried that and it didn't fix it ibeardslee
[04:55] <ibeardslee> you are aware that you can use Ctrl+Alt+F1, Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get different consoles so you don't have to actuall exit?
[04:55] <pc_> nope didn't know that
[04:56] <pc_> sorry, I will do that
[04:56] <pc_> any other suggestions?
[04:56] <ibeardslee> it's a very handy trick to know
[04:56] <ibeardslee> sorry I am a wee bit stumped there
[04:56] <pc_> :*(
[04:56] <ibeardslee> was it ever working?
[04:56] <pc_> Nope
[04:57] <ibeardslee> oh
[04:57] <ibeardslee> what version?
[04:57] <pc_> Edgy
[04:58] <ibeardslee> found a couple of references to your error on google ...
[05:00] <pc_> any of them have solutions?
[05:00] <ibeardslee> someone suggested running
[05:00] <ibeardslee> fc-cache -f
[05:00] <ibeardslee> did you just do an upgrade?
[05:01] <pc_> no I did a fresh install
[05:01] <ajmitch> could be something like bad symlinks, edgy had some interesting things with the move to a more modular X
[05:01] <ajmitch> hm, a fresh install should never break like that
[05:01] <ajmitch> have you asked in #ubuntu? it's not really something serverish
[05:01] <ibeardslee> I do actually vaguley recall having to change some permissions or something, but I thought that was a distupgrdae to feisty
[05:01] <pc_> fc-cache -f "fc-cache command not found"
[05:02] <ajmitch> did you do a server install, and are trying to get X working on top of that?
[05:02] <pc_> yes
[05:02] <ajmitch> installed xserver-xorg-core ?
[05:02] <pc_> yes
[05:02] <ajmitch> ok, so you probably have xfonts-base installed
[05:02] <pc_> I installed that yes
[05:04] <pc_> any ideas?
[05:04] <ajmitch> though it appears the new package to install is xorg, not sure about edgy
[05:07] <pc_> got a new error not something about error locking /home/pc/.Xauthority?
[05:07] <pc_> got a new error now something about error locking /home/pc/.Xauthority?
[05:09] <pc_> got a new error now something about error locking authority /home/pc/.Xauthority?
[05:09] <pc_> there that is the error, sorry had to switch back and forth
[05:11] <pc_> Anyone have any ideas on this new error?
[05:12] <ibeardslee> sorry
[05:15] <pc_> okay here is a question where does startx pull its information from? Like on what to start
[05:24] <ibeardslee> /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ~/.Xauthority
[05:24] <ibeardslee> I think that is all
[05:25] <ibeardslee> err maybe not
[05:42] <ribo> how do I get a proper serial console with upstart (god I miss inittab)
[05:43] <fujin_> does it not have an /etc/inittab file anymore?
[05:44] <ribo> no, upstart kills it
[05:44] <ribo> and upstart has no documentation on it
[05:45] <Pumpernickel> There's an upstart support channel - #upstart.
[05:46] <Pumpernickel> You may even catch a dev there.
[05:46] <ribo> cool, thanks
[06:01] <ribo> full of idlers, apparently, any ideas?
[06:02] <ajmitch> looks like there was a migration script from inittab which created them for upgrades
[06:04] <ajmitch> I presume you'll need a file /etc/event.d/ttyS0
[06:05] <ajmitch> something like /etc/event.d/tty1, except with the device name changed
[06:08] <ribo> hmm yea, would have been nice if upstart had some real docs before it completely replaced init in ubuntu :/
[10:02] <nrpil> hi there, i wonder where i can find more information about running ubuntu on my server
[10:15] <nrpil> maybe some page on www.ubuntulinux.org ?
[10:24] <shawarma> nrpil: What do you want to know?
[10:39] <ivoks> howdy
[10:43] <nrpil> hi shawarma, i want to create a production server for our company. so i want to use ldap with samba to join a active directory
[10:44] <ivoks> i don't see what ldap has to do with this?
[10:44] <ivoks> you want to connect samba as a client to AD?
[10:44] <ivoks> or you want samba to be AD PDC
[10:47] <ivoks> or you don't need help :)
[11:14] <mpathy> Hi there
[11:15] <mpathy> I want to update my server from dapper to feisty.. I installed a Postfix 2.3 there from a seperate .deb - when I update to feisty, will I have problems because of that? What common problems are possible in general from update over two releases?
[11:17] <ivoks> you should update to edgy first
[11:18] <ivoks> dapper -> feisty isn't supported
[11:25] <citybird> hi all. i am looking for a step by step guide to installing a mail gateway server using ubuntu.
[11:26] <ivoks> install ubuntu-server, install postifx and add relayhost to postfix
[11:27] <citybird> thanks looking that up
[11:27] <citybird> i have part 1 and 2 done
[11:27] <ivoks> when you install OS, you can come here for help
[11:28] <ivoks> oh, you did already :)
[11:28] <citybird> yep
[11:28] <ivoks> open /etc/postfix/main.cf and add relayhost = your_ISP_MX
[11:29] <citybird> thought about doing it with gentoo but then thought better of it. I already deal with 2 gentoo web servers and dont want to expand that upgrade headache.
[11:30] <citybird> ivoks: this server only recieves email and forwards it to our exchange server. I will be adding clamav to it after i get that part working.
[11:30] <ivoks> ok then
[11:30] <ivoks> instead ISP_MX add exchange IP
[11:30] <citybird> kool
[11:31] <citybird> main.cf iis a short file
[11:31] <ivoks> next, add your domain to mydestination
[11:31] <mpathy> ivoks: So I have to dist-upgrade to edgy.. then restart.. then dist-upgrade to feisty.. then restart?
[11:32] <ivoks> mpathy: dist-update to edgy, then yo feisty, then restart cause of new kernel
[11:33] <ivoks> citybird: you also need clamav-daemon, clamav-freshclam and amavisd-new
[11:34] <ivoks> for content filtering
[11:34] <citybird> right. sorry, im slow. first i want to make sure this box is forwarding emails
[11:34] <ivoks> ok
[11:34] <ivoks> it's probably not yet :)
[11:35] <citybird> what is the syntax of the mydestination line? mydestenation = domainname.com
[11:36] <nrpil> ivoks: sorry, got called away from my computer
[11:36] <ivoks> citybird: just append your domain
[11:36] <ivoks> citybird: mydestination = localhost.localdomain, localhost.localdomain, localhost, your_domain
[11:40] <nrpil> ivoks: users are also going to use ssh to login to the machine
[11:40] <nrpil> ivoks: my idea was to use ldap for that
[11:41] <ivoks> so you want local users + domain users?
[11:41] <ivoks> or only domain users via AD?
[11:42] <nrpil> ivoks: i want to use the domain users as local user logins
[11:42] <ivoks> do you have AD already?
[11:42] <nrpil> yes
[11:42] <ivoks> you can auth ssh (and all other) users trough samba
[11:43] <ivoks> so, once you connect samba to AD/kerberos
[11:43] <ivoks> just set up pam to auth over samba
[11:44] <nrpil> oke
[11:44] <ivoks> so you don't need ldap :)
[11:44] <nrpil> ivoks: because ldap is a pain in the ass ?
[11:44] <ivoks> no, it's a additional service you don't need
[11:45] <ivoks> therefor one more service you need to watch over
[11:47] <citybird> ok ivoks, postfix now has mydest set up.
[11:49] <ivoks> ok
[11:49] <ivoks> now add
[11:49] <ivoks> transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
[11:50] <ivoks> then open /etc/postfix/transport and add:
[11:50] <ivoks> @your_domain smtp:IP_of_exchange
[11:51] <ivoks> ups... without @
[11:53] <citybird> ivoks: ok
[11:54] <ivoks> citybird: restart postfix
[11:54] <citybird> done
[11:54] <ivoks> tail -f /var/log/mail.log and try sending a mail over it
[11:55] <citybird> now that is the interesting part
[11:55] <citybird> how do i send mail directly to a particular server.
[11:55] <ivoks> set up your client or telnet to port 25
[11:58] <citybird> on another machine i typed telnet ipaddress:25 and it gives me name or service not known
[11:59] <ivoks> telnet ip port
[11:59] <citybird> ah
[11:59] <citybird> got it
[11:59] <citybird> i forgot the commands
[12:00] <ivoks> http://www.activexperts.com/activemail/telnet/
[12:03] <citybird> there is a problem... it's not responding 250 ok
[12:04] <ivoks> if you want, msg me an IP and i'll check it
[12:05] <ivoks> the ip :)
[12:05] <citybird> sorry, during testing phase the server is not givin an internet address
[12:05] <ivoks> HELP whatever
[12:05] <ivoks> MAIL<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:05] <ivoks> RCPT TO:<user@your_domain>
[12:05] <ivoks> DATA
[12:06] <ivoks> .
[12:06] <citybird> yea, i did that and there is never a response and after the . it just sits there.
[12:06] <ivoks> where does it fail to respond 250?
[12:06] <ivoks> check your mail.log
[12:06] <citybird> nothin
[12:07] <citybird> after the restart there are no messages
[12:07] <citybird> sec.
[12:08] <citybird> hmm
[12:08] <citybird> that tail thing aint scrolling
[12:08] <ivoks> tail -f
[12:08] <citybird> trying it again
[12:09] <citybird> ok here we go, that window timed out.
[12:10] <citybird> wow, lots of warnings
[12:10] <citybird> let me try again.
[12:12] <ivoks> i doubt warrning will go away just cause you're trying again :)
[12:12] <citybird> ok i wanted to see what warnings came when
[12:12] <citybird> connect is ok.
[12:12] <citybird> then this is what i get when i try mail from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:13] <citybird> Jun  1 13:06:23 viruswall2 postfix/trivial-rewrite[1834] : fatal: open database /etc/postfix/transport.db: No such file or directory
[12:13] <ivoks> doh
[12:13] <ivoks> postmap /etc/postfix/transport
[12:14] <citybird> ah
[12:14] <citybird> ok trying again.
[12:15] <citybird> woo hooo
[12:15] <citybird> ok now. Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table
[12:16] <ivoks> ok
[12:16] <ivoks> add this to main.cf:
[12:16] <citybird> how do i tell it to accept all mails directed to the domain. sorta like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:16] <ivoks> relay_domains = hash:/etc/postfix/relay_domains
[12:16] <ivoks> and in /etc/postfix/relay_domains:
[12:16] <ivoks> domain.com OK
[12:16] <ivoks> then postmap /etc/postfix/relay_domains
[12:17] <ivoks> restart postfix and try again
[12:17] <citybird> do i put that near relay host?
[12:17] <ivoks> it doesn't mather
[12:20] <citybird> ok did that but it still rejects
[12:21] <ivoks> could you paste your main.cf somewhere on pastebin?
[12:23] <citybird> ivoks: http://pastebin.ca/527512
[12:24] <ivoks> this is everything you have in it?
[12:24] <citybird> i left out some comments at the top
[12:25] <citybird> perhaps i should pull the version that comes with the source
[12:27] <ivoks> try with this: http://pastebin.ca/527515
[12:30] <citybird> that was much better
[12:30] <citybird> now we see if anything came through
[12:32] <citybird> dam it says connection timed out and i have to run for a lunch appointment.
[12:32] <citybird> some lady got 6000 spam emails
[12:32] <citybird> ill be back later, thanks for your help
[12:32] <ivoks> timed out where?
[12:32] <citybird> sending to the exchange server.
[12:32] <ivoks> that's another problem
[12:33] <citybird> Jun  1 13:25:05 viruswall2 postfix/smtp[2262] : 057CD4B926<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=none, delay=61, delays=31/0.02/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to <IP_ADDRESS>[<IP_ADDRESS>] : Connection timed out)
[12:33] <ivoks> i guess your exchange doesn't like you
[12:33] <citybird> yea, i think it's the firewall settings.
[12:33] <citybird> ill check it from the serer on port 25 ;-)
[12:34] <citybird> yep, port 25 is blocked from the firewall. ill have that corrected.
[12:35] <ivoks> then just run postqueue -f
[12:36] <citybird> thanks again.
[12:36] <ivoks> np
[12:40] <nrpil> ivoks: you have some production servers running yourself ?
[12:41] <citybird> we have an old virus scan machine from m$ that has a yearly subscription that is abut to expire. i want to replace it with a free linux machine.
[12:42] <citybird> then retire that server and use the os licence on a new machine.
[12:42] <citybird> afk
[12:44] <ivoks> nrpil: with what?
[12:45] <ivoks> nrpil: i have lots of them, none with AD, it's crap :)
[12:52] <Stonekeeper> hi ivoks. Just to let you know, the server has been working great :) thanks again
[12:53] <ivoks> np
[12:53] <Stonekeeper> apparently the bug has been open for years, and ubuntu devs aren't sorting it out :(
[12:53] <ivoks> khm, khm... :)
[12:53] <Stonekeeper> it's not even assigned!
[12:53] <Stonekeeper> out of interest, do you know if canonical is developing a GUI admin tool for ubuntu server?
[12:54] <ivoks> ubuntu isn't just canonical
[12:54] <Stonekeeper> i know. however, that sounds like a story.
[12:54] <ivoks> afaik, shawarma is working on something...
[12:54] <ivoks> but he would know better
[12:54] <shawarma> hm?
[12:54] <Stonekeeper> i'd really like to contribute to that
[12:54] <ivoks> :)
[12:54] <shawarma> Which bug are we talking about?
[12:54] <Stonekeeper> (please tell me it's a python app!)
[12:55] <Stonekeeper> shawarma: the bug was for the DAC960 driver
[12:55] <Stonekeeper> I'll find it now
[12:55] <ivoks> shawarma: DAC960 modules isn't in initrd after install
[12:55] <shawarma> ivoks: Right.
[12:56] <Stonekeeper> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/31035
[12:56] <Stonekeeper> it was reported over a year ago
[12:57] <Stonekeeper> the fix has worked no problem so it's ok for me right now :) I was talking to ivoks about a GUI for ubuntu server though. He mentioned your name
[12:57] <shawarma> Right. It's going to be a web based application.
[12:57] <Stonekeeper> python?
[12:57] <shawarma> Unfortunately, no, I think.
[12:57] <Stonekeeper> :(
[12:57] <Stonekeeper> major :(
[12:58] <shawarma> I would have wished for it to be python, but:
[12:58] <shawarma> www.ebox-platform.com  is in perl and it's just too complete to be ignored.
[12:58] <ivoks> i agree
[12:58] <shawarma> It's hard to justify building something new just to have it in another programming language.
[12:58] <Stonekeeper> sure
[12:59] <Stonekeeper> but think of the maintainability nightmare!
[12:59] <shawarma> I'll just have to get myself some protective goggles so my eyes won't start to bleed to badly from looking at perl code. :(
[12:59] <shawarma> Stonekeeper: Well, maintainability is not entirely that simle.
[12:59] <shawarma> Stonekeeper: Upstream is alive and well, which moves a huge chunk of the maintainability problems away from us.
[01:00] <Stonekeeper> right
[01:00] <Stonekeeper> i was thinking of a utility for users used to the win server 200X interface
[01:00] <shawarma> Stonekeeper: Also, teaching the software to be python is harder and more time-consuming than to teach me to be more of a perl wizard.
[01:01] <Stonekeeper> "teaching the software to be python" <- ?
[01:01] <shawarma> to be perfectly honest, I'm not terribly interested in looking like something else for no othper purpose that for it to look like something else.
[01:01] <Stonekeeper> sure
[01:01] <shawarma> "teaching the software to be python" == porting it to python.
[01:02] <Stonekeeper> i think the problem is, it's very easy to get windows admins. If the UI was the same, they could manage linux servers without retraining. It makes ubuntu server a viable option for places that think it's too much of a support risk.
[01:02] <Stonekeeper> I'll be working soon for a place like this
[01:04] <shawarma> if think that trying to obtain usability by looking like something else that some - *only* because of experience with it - find easy to use, is a failing strategy altogether.
[01:04] <shawarma> "I think"*
[01:04] <Stonekeeper> i agree
[01:05] <Stonekeeper> this isn't my thinking, but i understand where they are coming from
[01:05] <shawarma> You can obtain ease of use in two major ways:
[01:05] <shawarma> 1) Being easy
[01:05] <shawarma> 2) Look like something that your users are used to
[01:05] <shawarma> I aim for 1).
[01:05] <Stonekeeper> yeah. me too :D
[01:06] <Stonekeeper> there isn't currently a decent samba/ldap/user management gui though is there?
[01:16] <shawarma> I've just poked the kernel guys about including DAC960 into the default initramfs.
[01:17] <shawarma> They're all in Canada or USA, so they'll probably not respond just yet.
[01:27] <Stonekeeper> thanks shawarma
[01:28] <Stonekeeper> out of interest, is the initrd static and not based on your install preferences?
[01:28] <shawarma> Stonekeeper: It's already fixed, actually.
[01:28] <shawarma> Even in Edgy.
[01:29] <Stonekeeper> ah right, of scourse LTs is dapper :D
[01:29] <shawarma> I didn't notice anything about LTS. Sorry.
[01:30] <Stonekeeper> at least the next LTS will have 3rd party support option which will mean you could get this in initrd by stealth
[01:42] <baggito> hrm. has anyone here used easyspeedy.com hosting?
[02:06] <citybird> aww, ivoks left...
[02:11] <shawarma> baggito: I have.
[02:12] <shawarma> baggito: I used to be a satisfied customer, but over the last summer they had major network problems (which - truth be told - turned out to be their uplink's problem), but they never gave any reasons or any ideas of when you could expect things to work again. *Very* annoying.
[02:12] <shawarma> baggito: I'd recommend hetzner.de any day.
[02:13] <shawarma> baggito: Just make sure that you make it absolutely clear to them if you don't speak German.
[02:13] <shawarma> baggito: they're very professional and cheap.
[02:29] <fernando> moin all
[02:33] <baggito> hrm
[02:33] <baggito> cool. thanks shawarma
[02:35] <baggito> hrm. they have no website in english
[02:37] <baggito> oh i see it
[02:38] <baggito> hrm. it's redhat
[02:42] <baggito> shawarma: they only have redhat?
[02:42] <baggito> hrm. how upgradable is redhat?
[02:46] <shawarma> No, they have Ubuntu, too.
[02:47] <baggito> oh nice
[02:47] <baggito> perfect
[03:16] <citybird> hey all, i got postfix up and running, it accepts mails and forwards them to the exchange server on our network. now how do you intergrate clamav?
[03:17] <shawarma> citybird: I usually use amavisd
[03:18] <shawarma> citybird: amavisd-new, that is
[03:18] <citybird> working on that now. cant find simple to follow instructions.
[03:18] <shawarma> citybird: /usr/share/doc/amavisd-new/README.postfix.gz
[03:18] <citybird> why does everything have to be so deep tech
[03:19] <shawarma> Because making user interfaces for that sort of thing is not particularly fun. :)
[03:20] <citybird> i keep getting  cannot open `/etc/mailname' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:23] <shawarma> Does it exist?
[03:26] <citybird> nope. i should put my domain name in it and nothing else
[03:30] <citybird> ok, it's going now.
[08:04] <Ali_ix> hi
[08:05] <Ali_ix> can in install glibc 2.4 or higher on a i386 dapper server?
[08:05] <Ali_ix> current glibc in dapper repositories is 2.35
[08:05] <Ali_ix> how can i install 2.4?
[08:18] <Gruelius> how do i force apt-get to use the internet, in tired of putting in my cd -.-
[08:25] <Panzer_> Gruelius: comment out the line in sources.list about the cd
[08:27] <Ali_ix> Gruelius: and then do an 'apt-get update'
[08:29] <Gruelius> cheers. And how can i set a static ip from the command line? i forget the simple things :(
[08:29] <Panzer_> change the interfaces file in /etc/networking
[08:30] <Gruelius> rightio
[08:32] <Gruelius> with ubuntu, if i apt-get something that is normally set to run at startup is it automatically added to bootup? or do i need to add it to rc-update
[08:47] <leonel> normally gets  configured
[08:49] <Gruelius> sweet, im liking this over gentoo allready :D when i grabbed cupsys* i thought great a big compiling time to wait, was done in a tic :D
[12:03] <r00tintheb0x> =)


[13:39] <Brainstorm> Updates for Bangladesh: +273 cases (now 1.6 million), +1 deaths (now 27981), +19802 tests (now 10.9 million) since a day ago


[14:44] <jh> Hi. I'm trying to use bzr-svn to checkout a svn-repo. I get a "bzr: ERROR: A Subversion remote access command failed: Server sent unexpected return value (403 Forbidden) in response to PROPFIND request for '/path/to/root/of/repo/'" I don't have rights to read '/path/to/root/of/repo/', only to '/path/to/root/of/repo/sub'... with tortoise svn I can checkout the repo from sub... It seems to be similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-svn/+bug/4
[14:44] <jh> 09668 but that should be fixed. Any ideas?
[14:44] <jh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-svn/+bug/409668
[14:44] <jh> evil linebreak ;)
[14:45] <jelmer> jh: bzr-svn still accesses the repository root, though you can work around it by explicitly specifying the repository layout
[14:45] <jelmer> bug 675104
[14:49] <jh> jelmer: ok, thx... Now I just have to figure out what to use as "layout"
[14:50] <jelmer> jh: see 'bzr help svn-layout'
[14:50] <jh> jelmer: ah! thx again :)
[14:54] <jh> mh, now I get "bzr: ERROR: WildcardLayout(['projectname/trunk'],[]) does not support co-located branches."
[14:55] <jh> oh, "Jelmer said on IRC: "Looks like it's just invalid handling of a particular exception at the moment"" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-svn/+bug/798400 :(
[14:55] <jelmer> jh: You probably want "--layout trunk1" ?
[14:56] <jelmer> jh: that bug was fixed in bzr-svn 1.1 though, what are you running?
[14:56] <jh> I just downloaded bzr 2.5 standalone for windows
[14:58] <jh> seems to 1.1.2 (from svn\info.py)
[14:58] <jh> +be
[15:00] <jh> jelmer: if I specify "layout = trunk1" and "branches = path/to/trunk" in the subversion.conf, I get bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "svn+https://url/path/to/root/path/to/trunk/branches".
[15:00] <jh> the "branches" in path is wrong
[15:01] <jelmer> jh: I'm pretty sure that's due to a mismatched bzr-svn/bzr version
[15:01] <jelmer> I remember there were some issues with the standalone that had a too old version of bzr-svn, but I thought that was fixed
[15:01] <jelmer> wgz: there?
[15:01] <jh> 1.1.2 is too old?
[15:01] <jelmer> yeah, for 2.5.0 you want 1.2.1
[15:02] <jh> ok
[15:04] <jelmer> it seems to be fixed in lp:bzr-windows-installers, but perhaps the installer hasn't been rebuilt yet :(
[15:19] <jh> hm, using the none-standalone version of bzr requires me to compile subvertpy?
[15:19] <jelmer> yeah, it would :(
[15:20] <jelmer> you might be able to install the newer bzr-svn into the standalone installer location
[15:20] <jelmer> which already has subvertpy
[15:23] <jh> jelmer: yay, that seems to work :)
[15:23] <jh> at least it's downloading something
[15:37] <jh> server is incredible slow, but it seems to work... thank you for your help & your plugin, jelmer!
[15:37] <jelmer> jh: np; sorry about the hickup with the windows installers :-/
[15:38] <jelmer> hopefully that will be resolved soon
[16:03] <wgz> the fun thing is various issues need fixing in 2.5 installers
[16:03] <wgz> so, a rebuild would have the newer bzr-svn, but still no translations currently
[16:06] <wgz> jelmer, for bug 958511 do you really mean gpg key? push should just be ssh.
[16:17] <jelmer> wgz: ah, oops, yes
[16:19] <wgz> jelmer: I've questionised it now
[16:19] <wgz> seems to have just been the normal intermittant connection thing.
[16:24] <wgz> bug 958551 is interesting, commit builder probably just needs the check already, it's too easy for plugins to screw up.
[16:30] <jelmer> wgz: hmm, indeed
[16:35] <wgz> the annyoing part it's is not possible to tell from the traceback who messed up setting the commit message, the builddeb hook seems most likely, but I wrote some tests for that
[16:50] <jh> noooo... "bzr: ERROR: A Subversion remote access command failed: Server sent unexpected return value (403 Forbidden) in response to PROPFIND request for '/pathtorepo/tags'" :(
[16:50] <jh> i don't want tags
[16:51] <jh> there are no tags :(
[16:51] <jelmer> jh: you need the wildcard layout in that case (in other words, remove "layout = trunk1", just use "branches = path/to/trunk")
[16:52] <jh> jelmer: do i have to re-download?
[16:53] <jh> i get 'bzr: ERROR: A control directory already exists: "file:///path/trunk/".'
[16:54] <jelmer> jh: right, you'll have to remove the existing branch (or run "bzr pull" in the existing branch)
[16:54] <jh> :(
[16:55] <jh> bzr pull says 'bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "path/.bzr/branch/": location is a repository.'
[16:56] <jelmer> jh: ah - it hit that 401 error before the branch was created
[16:56] <jelmer> removing the branch and starting from scratch is probably easiest
[16:56] <jh> yes, during checkout
[16:56] <jelmer> you can also try running 'bzr init' in file://path/trunk and then trying pull
[16:56] <jh> during 1h checkout :[
[16:58] <jh> yay, that worked
[16:58] <jh> thx again
[22:34] <poolie> hi all


[00:09] <mup> Issue operator#913 opened: FileNotFoundError: '.../requirements.txt' during `charmcraft pack` with 2.1.0 <Created by Perfect5th> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/913>
[01:29] <mup> PR operator#914 opened: Revert to static list for setup.py install_requires <Created by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/914>
[02:09] <mup> Issue operator#913 closed: FileNotFoundError: '.../requirements.txt' during `charmcraft pack` with 2.1.0 <Created by Perfect5th> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/913>
[02:09] <mup> PR operator#914 closed: Revert to static list for setup.py install_requires <Created by benhoyt> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/914>
[03:32] <mup> PR operator#915 opened: Add CI tests for 'pip install' and 'charmcraft pack' <Created by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/915>


[01:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: open-vm-tools (bionic-proposed/main) [2:11.0.5-4ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 2:11.0.5-4ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
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[02:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (kinetic-proposed) [2.785]
[02:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: jpeg-xl (kinetic-proposed/primary) [0.7.0-1]
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[06:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mypy [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [0.971-4]
[08:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwts (kinetic-proposed/universe) [22.07.00-0ubuntu1 => 22.09.00-0ubuntu1] (kernel-dkms)
[08:46] <tjaalton> could someone review the jammy xorg-server upload, it's needed by some oem projects, thanks
[09:22] <rs2009> release team: would be great if someone could take a look at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:17] <mwhudson> i think it's probably a real regression, in that it results from the change to not preseed anything
[10:17] <mwhudson> (not sure, but it seems plausible)
[10:18] <mwhudson> maybe we should ignore it, or maybe only skip the preseeding if firefox is ther
[10:18] <mwhudson> e
[10:18] <mwhudson> or something
[10:18] <mwhudson> i am asleep, anyway
[10:27] <laney> are we all part of mwhudson's fever dream?
[10:37] <Ukikie> I know I am.
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-exchangelib (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4.7.6-1 => 4.7.6-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-exchangelib [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4.7.6-1ubuntu1]
[11:09] <xnox> apw:  vorlon: "missing build on ppc64el: linux-image-5.19.0-15-generic (from 5.19.0-15.15)" in linux-signed in update_excuses is intentional, but i don't know how to let that through. because we do need that .deb in kinetic-release; and yes we are dropping it upon migration. so i don't know how to express that to britney that missing binary/build is actually ok.
[11:10] <xnox> (src:linux-signed in release built deb:linux-image-5.19.0-15-generic:ppc64el and src:linux in proposed builds deb:linux-image-5.19.0-18-generic:ppc64el)
[12:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: listserialportsc (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.4.0-1 => 1.4.0+repack-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted listserialportsc [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [1.4.0+repack-1]
[12:56] <bdmurray> I'm kicking off a test build of lubuntu with some changes to livecd-rootfs to workaround bug 1990884
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-fluids (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.0.9-1ubuntu1 => 1.0.22-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-fluids [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [1.0.22-1]
[13:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-meta (kinetic-proposed/main) [1.495 => 1.496] (core)
[13:55] <bdmurray> jbicha: Could you elaborate on why iwd is being removed from the -recommends for desktop?
[14:18] <jbicha> it is reverting a change from yesterday, to make sure that iwd was installed for upgrades
[14:19] <jbicha> bdmurray: we are seeing some significant regressions because of the wpasupplicant -> iwd transition and intend to keep using wpasupplicant for 22.10
[14:20] <jbicha> bdmurray: currently, network-manager Recommends: iwd | wpasupplicant. I can drop iwd from Recommends there too but that would affect all desktop flavors to push before Beta
[14:27] <bdmurray> jbicha: so are there any other flavors which are shipping iwd?
[14:28] <jbicha> bdmurray: No
[14:29] <jbicha> bdmurray: wait, I mean, actually it's pulled in by NetworkManager so new installs would get it. But because of the alternate recommends, upgraders won't
[14:29] <jbicha> I think I ought to do the network-manager upload now then
[14:31] <bdmurray> Okay, we'll keep an eye out for it
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager (kinetic-proposed/main) [1.40.0-1ubuntu1 => 1.40.0-1ubuntu2] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[14:40] <jbicha> bdmurray: uploaded
[14:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: meta-gnome3 (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1:42+7 => 1:42+8] (no packageset) (sync)
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[14:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted meta-gnome3 [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [1:42+8]
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[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-meta [source] (kinetic-proposed) [1.496]
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: syncthingtray [amd64] (kinetic-proposed/universe) [1.2.2-2] (no packageset)
[15:27] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-release: I sponsored the upload of ubuntucinnamon-wallpapers prior to beta freeze. It was supposed to be associated with bug 1989359 for the wallpaper UIFe, but that didn't get added to the changelog. I notated that in the bug.
[15:45] <rs2009> ubuntu-release: could someone run the Ubuntu Unity ISO Build (we need to ensure everything's working before the beta release, including snaps)? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/kinetic/ubuntu-unity
[15:48] <bdmurray> rs2009: I've recently uploaded a version of livecd-rootfs (with your change - thanks again!) and I've just built a lubuntu livefs as a test. We next need to test the image and if it works then I'll move on to build other images.
[15:50] <rs2009> bdmurray: ah yes, I noticed that, which is why I asked for the build to be run. I'll test the Lubuntu image too now, and see if the snaps are present. thanks!
[16:06] <rs2009> bdmurray: looks like the snaps still aren't present in the Lubuntu ISO
[16:09] <bdmurray> rs2009: I see them in the manifest... what behaviour did you notice?
[16:10] <rs2009> bdmurray: the snaps didn't get installed automatically while booting (they are supposed to when snap-preseed isn't run manually)
[16:22] <bdmurray> rs2009: Could you elaborate on "are supposed to be"?
[16:25] <rs2009> bdmurray: snap-preseed reduces the ISO/first boot time, by running some of the tasks which usually run as part of the ISO/first boot. however, removing it shouldn't cause any issues and should just increase the boot time
[16:27] <bdmurray> rs2009: I initially did not see any snaps (via snap list) but some minutes later they did show up
[16:27] <rs2009> bdmurray: ah great, just checked here too and looks like they appeared (guess it took some time as snap-preseed was removed)
[16:28] <bdmurray> yeah, this isn't ideal but is workable
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-budgie-meta (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.102 => 0.103] (personal-fossfreedom, ubuntu-budgie)
[16:31] <rs2009> bdmurray: guess we could run all the other ISO builds now?
[16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntustudio-meta (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.274 => 0.275] (ubuntustudio)
[16:32] <bdmurray> rs2009: I'm doing an install now just to make sure something goofy doesn't happen.
[16:33] <rs2009> bdmurray: oh sure
[16:35] <Eickmeyer> ginggs: ?
[16:37] <bdmurray> Eickmeyer: one of the release team tasks for the beta is to "Update metapackages for all releasing derivatives" and that is what ginggs is working on
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: Understood, I just usually get pinged to do the ubuntustudio part.
[16:37] <bdmurray> In the interest of expediency we did it instead of asking
[16:38] <bdmurray> Eickmeyer: I'm about to accept the changes unless you object.
[16:38] <Eickmeyer> No objections.
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-budgie-meta [source] (kinetic-proposed) [0.103]
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntustudio-meta [source] (kinetic-proposed) [0.275]
[16:46] <paride> bdmurray, just tested the lubuntu image, behaves as you described (and as expected) without the seeding
[16:50] <bdmurray> paride: ack, thanks!
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntucinnamon-wallpapers [amd64] (kinetic-proposed) [22.10.1]
[17:35] <rs2009> bdmurray: installed the Lubuntu ISO, and snaps seem to work as expected. would be great if we could run the ISO builds now for all the flavors
[17:38] <bdmurray> rs2009: there was a network-manager change we want to get in also
[17:40] <rs2009> bdmurray: ah okay, wasn't aware of that
[18:00] <arraybolt3> Heads up guys, we in #lubuntu-devel just uncovered a Snap bug that's causing Firefox to have problems showing up when the live ISO is first booted, and also immediately after the first bootup after installation. Since we've been having some problems with Snap and Firefox, I thought it might be useful to know. The bug report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1991011
[18:01] <bdmurray> arraybolt3: What is the serial of the daily build you've used?
[18:01] <arraybolt3> I'll find out, I downloaded it just today.
[18:02] <arraybolt3> 20220927.2.
[18:02] <arraybolt3> I see that a .3 was released, I'll pull it and repeat the test.
[18:04] <bdmurray> arraybolt3: the snaps are no longer preseeded so it takes a couple of minutes for them to show up
[18:05] <arraybolt3> bdmurray: OK. So this is normal behavior? Interestingly, on an installed system, it happens on the first boot, but not the second one.
[18:06] <bdmurray> arraybolt3: Well it is expected but not normal, we'd rather that the snaps were preseeded and this didn't happen.
[18:07] <arraybolt3> Ah, OK. Is there a bug report on this so I can mark the one that me and Leo just made as a duplicate?
[18:07] <arraybolt3> Or should I just set it to Invalid?
[18:12] <rs2009> hey arraybolt3, we actually made that change as 'snap-preseed' was failing to run during the ISO build, so snaps now take a few minutes to show up the ISO is booted for the first time, or when a fresh install has been booted for the first time (as 'snap-preseed' would do some of the first boot snap tasks during the ISO build)
[18:12] <rs2009> so this is expected behaviour
[18:13] <arraybolt3> rs2009: Nice, thanks for confirming! I will add this info to the bug report.
[18:13] <bdmurray> I think using that bug in the release notes would be good.
[18:16] <rs2009> arraybolt3: no problem! I've commented on the bug report with this info too
[18:16] <arraybolt3> Oops, I just commented also with all the info, guess I'll edit mine down some.
[18:17] <arraybolt3> Eh, you covered everything much more concisely, so I just deleted my comment. Thanks!
[18:17] <Eickmeyer> Yikes. This affects not just Firefox, but Freeshow and Audacity on Ubuntu Studio.
[18:18] <arraybolt3> So, the obvious question to come after this... any clue what got clogged up with Snap preseeding, so maybe we can try to help unclog it?
[18:20] <arraybolt3> (Actually, I'm realizing this is in my backlog, so I'll read up.)
[18:33] <bdmurray> bug 1990884
[19:36] <bdmurray> building ubuntu now
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[20:39] <bdmurray> whoo
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[20:57] <bdmurray> The raspi images failed to build but I have a fix for that ^
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[22:12] <bdmurray> rs2009: ubuntu-unity is in the iso tracker now but I didn't add any test cases b/c I don't know what would be appropriate / correct https://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/439/builds/260017/testcases . Also the image is oversized somehow.
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[23:08] <Trevinho> bdmurray: hey, can we get gdm3 unblocked? I think it would be relevant to test the beta with it
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[09:34] <thorwil> good morning!
[20:03]  * thorwil falls asleep, dies and rots while waiting for the wiki to load
[20:28] <knome> >__<


[12:45] <maswan> hey, we (ftp.acc.umu.se, usually se.releases.ubuntu.com) haven't seen any triggers since the 18th for releases (only archive), anyone knows what's up with that?
[13:59] <Fluor> maswan, ah, same for me (nl.releases.ubuntu.com)
[15:30] <tomreyn> make sure you send mail, as per /topic
[15:31] <axino> maswan Fluor : it's very probably related to the DC move that happened that day, please file RT and we'll take a look
[16:08] <cjwatson> may also be worth maswan checking firewall rules at their end?
[16:48] <Fluor> i still get triggers for archive and i've updated the IPs a while ago. ;)


[05:35] <Kilos> morning all
[05:52] <svij> morning Kilos
[05:52] <Kilos> hi svij
[05:52] <Kilos> you in europe?
[05:52] <svij> yes, Germany
[05:53] <Kilos> great i managed to get contact with one of your old colonies last night
[05:53] <Kilos> namibia
[05:54] <svij> where you from?
[05:54] <Kilos> you dont know of my project
[05:54] <svij> +are
[05:54] <Kilos> im in pretoria south africa
[05:54] <svij> oh cool
[05:54] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-africa.info
[05:57] <Kilos> hit refresh/reload a few times and watch the background change
[05:57] <svij> nice :D
[05:59] <Kilos> driving me nuts this project, everyone is on facebook, and i dont like using facebook
[05:59] <Kilos> hehe
[07:00] <dholbach> good morning
[07:00] <Kilos> hi there dholbach
[07:00] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[07:01] <Kilos> remember i said i might need german help with namibia
[07:01] <Kilos> no need anymore i have them ty
[07:03] <svij> morning dholbach
[07:03] <dholbach> hey svij
[07:03] <dholbach> ah ok
[07:06] <Kilos> hi PaulW2U
[07:18] <Kilos> hi dpm
[07:31] <dpm> hi Kilos
[07:31] <svij> morning dpm
[07:32] <dpm> hey, morgen svij o/
[07:41] <Kilos> elacheche  o/
[07:55] <elacheche> o/ Kilos & others :)