[00:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #405560 in samba4 (universe) "Sync samba4 4.0.0~alpha8+git20090718-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405560
[01:57] <van> hello server gurus
[01:59] <van> do i need to use Ubuntu server to utilize multiple hard drives?
[01:59] <Samo> you can have multiple HDD in a desktop environment
[01:59] <van> Using RAID?
[02:00] <van> RTFM right?
[02:01] <Samo> then i don't know X)
[02:02] <van> I was asking if I need to use RAID
[03:26] <artillerytx> Why are servers so cheap nowdays
[03:27] <ball> artillerytx: because they're made from cornflakes
[03:27] <artillerytx> ball: oh yeah
[03:28] <artillerytx> but seriously i can buy a dell poweredge 6650 for like $300
[03:28] <ball> Are those 1U?
[03:28] <artillerytx> no they are 4U
[03:28] <artillerytx> Quad 3GH
[03:28] <artillerytx> z
[03:29] <artillerytx> Xeons
[03:30] <ball> The last Dell servers I used were very screechy.
[03:30] <ball> ...perhaps today's are better.
[03:31] <artillerytx> i have a 1750 and its way toooo loud
[03:31]  * ball nods
[03:33] <artillerytx> I just don't know what is good and what is bad etc..
[03:33]  * genii turns on the Sunfire X2100 and hears it break the sound barrier
[03:33] <artillerytx> like this - http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-PowerEdge-6650-Quad-Xeon-2-7GHZ-3838-RAM-36GB-HD_W0QQitemZ180379157931QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Servers?hash=item29ff6f85ab&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_974wt_1233
[03:34] <ball> brb
[03:36] <roxy> Hi please help...I restart my ubuntu server and now i can boot ..it is stoping when is loading NTP and then postreg and just stay there, can not load anything
[03:36] <roxy> i can't boot
[03:36] <mushroomtwo> how long is it hanging?
[03:36] <mushroomtwo> how long have you left it hanging there?
[03:39] <roxy> if this is fr me just now
[03:45] <roxy> hi, sorry..me again, now pass the first part but I can not login, aparently the postreg database is corrupt because do es not recongnize my root and user password
[03:54] <roxy> hey please somebody can helo me...something happen with my server and is not runnung, is very slow...how I can detect which is the problem
[03:54] <artillerytx> Hey when im setting up my google app mail account and tells me to add mail to CNAME alias and ghs.google.com to CNAME destination
[04:00] <ball> roxy: does "top" provide any clues?
[04:03] <ball> I have to go
[04:05] <roxy> i can access to the server
[04:05] <roxy> when i boot stop in postregsql then go so slow...
[04:06] <roxy> and i need to wait for a long time to appear the log promt
[04:06] <roxy> and then go to the jubuntu windows and then stop, dont do nothing
[04:58] <roxy> Hi please somebody can help me , my server stop to boot...and is so slow, i dont know what i can do to recover it?
[05:08] <Bookman> I'm trying to connect to another computer on my local network.  I can ssh into the machine with no issues.  I just cannot see that same machine via smb and nautilus.
[05:09] <Samo> for smb you need to give access to other pc's
[05:10] <Bookman> I've done that
[05:10] <Bookman> There is a little more....
[05:11] <Bookman> I am going through one router, into another router, into the target machine.  If I connect to the second router, I can connect to the target machine.  If I connect to the first router, I cannot seem to make it through the second router and on to the target machine.
[05:12] <Bookman> I hope that made sense!
[05:12] <Samo> in the second router smb and nautilus works?
[05:12] <Bookman> yes, no problem
[05:12] <Bookman> I have a DMZ setup from router one to router two
[05:13] <Samo> hmm
[05:14] <Bookman> yeah, kind of strange.
[05:14] <Samo> router manufacturer?
[05:14] <Bookman> router one is dlink.  Router two is Belkin
[05:16] <Bookman> Router one also is attached to my cable modem
[05:16] <Samo> sounds like a port thing to me
[05:16] <Bookman> Yeah, I just cannot figure it all out
[05:16] <Bookman> ssh works perfectly
[05:17] <Samo> let me see if i get it
[05:18] <Samo> r1 and r2 are directly connected?
[05:18] <Bookman> Yes
[05:18] <Bookman> Modem>Router 1>Router 2
[05:18] <Bookman> Router 1 is also wireless
[05:18] <Bookman> Router 2 is also wireless
[05:19] <Bookman> DMZ setup from Router 1 to Router 2
[05:20] <Samo> where do woy get the internet?
[05:20] <Samo> sdo you*
[05:20] <Bookman> Not sure what you mean
[05:21] <Bookman> I could turn off the internet and would still have the same local network problem
[05:21] <Bookman> Internet works great from all machines
[05:22] <Samo> i was thinking that maybe the smb requests were being send out to the internet instead of the next hop router
[05:22] <Bookman> Ah, got you.
[05:23] <Bookman> Not sure about that one
[05:23] <grim76> Assuming this is home networking gear.  It is possible that the router is still blocking the traffic.  Even though it is in a DMZ might have to create specific forwarding rules to get past it.
[05:24] <genii> Bookman: If you use smb://x.x.x.x             (IP of dest box) can it get there?
[05:25] <Bookman> genii: no
[05:26] <genii> Are both routers handing out numbers on same segment? Or is it set statically, etc etc
[05:27] <Bookman> Same segment?
[05:27] <Bookman> One is 192.168.0.x
[05:27] <Bookman> One is 192.168.2.x
[05:28] <genii> So the netmask is then <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:29] <genii> 192.168.0.x and 192.168.2.x are NOT on same segment
[05:29] <Bookman> Router One is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:29] <genii> (unless netmask is <IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:30] <Bookman> Router Two is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:31] <Samo> write the command for the SSH you use
[05:31] <Bookman> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:31] <grim76> Iptables or similar firewall limiting smb traffic to local subnet?
[05:32] <Bookman> grim76: not on purpose
[05:33] <Samo> still thinking is a port thing, the ssh is getting there on the LAN IP
[05:34] <Bookman> smb is 445?
[05:35] <genii> 135 139 I think
[05:35] <genii> No, 445 (just checked)
[05:37] <Bookman> yeah, tried forwarding....no luck
[05:38] <grim76> Is there a single NIC in the samba server?  Maybe SMB is locked down to a single interface?
[05:38] <genii> When daisy-chaining routers I usually do something like make router1 <IP_ADDRESS> and give a range like <IP_ADDRESS>-99 and router2 <IP_ADDRESS> and give a range like 192..168.0.100-50
[05:39] <Bookman> genii: should not matter though, no?
[05:40] <genii> Bookman: The netmask dictates for instance what IP the smb broadcasts on. So they are broadcasting on <IP_ADDRESS> on one router and <IP_ADDRESS> on the other right now
[05:40] <Bookman> hmmmmm
[05:42] <Bookman> So the broadcast address is the issue
[05:43] <Bookman> What if I can change my broadcast address on Router Two to match Router One?
[05:44] <genii> Bookman: As far as the machine offering a service being immediately seen by other boxes not on it's local subnet.
[05:45] <Bookman> subnets are the same though
[05:46] <Bookman> Maybe I'm just not getting it
[05:46] <genii> 1.1.0.x is not on the same subnet as 1.1.1.x if the netmask is not <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:47] <Bookman> Ok, not sure what to change here now
[05:47] <genii> At any rate, almost 1AM and will require sleep here, so will be /away shortly
[05:47] <Samo> with the SN Mask being <IP_ADDRESS> ... there is then SN 1 = <IP_ADDRESS> - 255   ... and SN 2 = 192.168
[05:48] <Samo> ups
[05:48] <Samo> ... and SN 2 = <IP_ADDRESS> - 255
[05:49] <Bookman> Ok, you have my setup information....I'm just not understanding what to change to get it to work here.
[05:51] <Samo> a long cable to connect directly to r2
[05:51] <Samo> there!
[05:51] <Bookman> Samo: I can do that via wireless
[05:52] <Samo> xd
[05:52] <Bookman> But I have to explain that to my users?
[05:54] <Samo> maybe
[05:55] <Samo> you should try /j #cisco
[05:55] <Bookman> ?
[05:55] <Samo> i'm out of ideas
[05:55] <Samo> the cisco channel on freenode
[05:55] <Bookman> Samo: no problem....I guess just not possible under Linux....
[05:56] <Bookman> Let me try XP on the machines...
[05:56] <Bookman> See if it can be done at all
[05:56] <Samo> ok
[05:56] <Bookman> Gotta break the problem down somehow
[05:58] <Bookman> Ok, two XP machines see each other with no issues
[06:00] <Samo> hmmm
[06:00] <Bookman> Yeah, strange
[06:01] <Samo> before
[06:01] <Samo> you were trying to access ubuntu-server with smb with a xp machine?
[06:01] <Bookman> Nope
[06:01] <Bookman> Two ubuntu machines
[06:02] <Samo> is the server supposed to be for linux only?
[06:02] <Bookman> Yup
[06:02] <Samo> try NFS
[06:02] <Samo> know how?
[06:03] <Samo> on the server
[06:03] <Samo> cd /etc/
[06:03] <Samo> nano exports
[06:03] <Bookman> I tried NFS. I could never get it working at all
[06:05] <Samo> asdf
[06:05] <Samo>  /folderyou/want/toshare remotepcname(rw) anotherpc(rw) pcreadonly(ro)
[06:05] <Bookman> ?
[06:06] <Samo> nevermind
[06:06] <Bookman> OK
[06:06] <Bookman> Local networking does not seem to be a strong point of Linux
[06:07] <mushroomtwo> haw.
[06:07] <mushroomtwo> also, linux is terrible for serving web pages
[06:07] <mushroomtwo> or DHCP
[06:07] <mushroomtwo> you should go back to windows.
[06:07] <Bookman> I will change the machines back.  I thank you for the help though
[06:10] <artillerytx> for some reason my server is not working ... I can still access the apache server all i did was move it to another room
[06:10] <Bookman> Good try
[06:28] <artillerytx> anyone know why im getting this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m36d41976
[06:29] <artillerytx> when i type " grep -r -i iptables /etc/
[06:31] <roxy> hey somebody can give a idea please...my server doesn run...is stopping ..i am trying to boot but stop in NTP and Postreg, please help...
[06:57] <roxy> well, it look like the Toby's club
[07:11] <MT-> What questions could I ask somebody to see if they know much about Linux?
[07:12] <ttx> MT-: explain how it boots ?
[07:13] <MT-> ttx: I was thinking of questions with multiple choice questions
[07:13] <MT-> nothing serious - just for fun
[07:13] <ttx> hm - then you should be able to google some linux quiz
[07:22] <MT-> !info motif
[07:25] <artillerytx> what do you think the best firewall is ?
[07:27] <twb> artillerytx: we told you yesterday: use ufw.
[07:27] <artillerytx> okay
[07:27] <twb> But the best firewall is two inches of solid air.
[07:27] <artillerytx> oh yea
[07:33] <MT-> artillerytx: I like iptables :P
[07:33] <artillerytx> MT-: i like tables too
[07:33] <MT-> restrict what has a port open - and the rest is no concern
[07:33] <artillerytx> yeah
[07:33] <artillerytx> hey im reading this tutorial - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[07:34] <artillerytx> and it says run mkdev.sh script but i creat this file and then later on execute it /
[07:35] <twb> On a GNU/Linux system, essentially all "firewalls" are really just wrappers on top of iptables.
[07:35] <roxy> regards, to iptables and firewall i unistall that and my system run again (boot), just to let you know as i am sure you are expert in that
[07:38] <MT-> twb: I tried using iptables + ufw once - I soon learned not to :P
[07:38] <MT-> all the errors about conflicts
[07:47] <twb> MT-: did you file a bug report?
[07:58] <LiraNuna> postfix doesn't answer to me in telnet, anyone has an idea?
[07:58] <LiraNuna> telnet localhost 25 // connects but doesn't reply 250 mail.something.com
[07:59] <LiraNuna> just sits there, sending text (EHLO) won't reply
[07:59] <LiraNuna> QUIT doesn't work either
[08:23] <MrGlass_> hai
[08:23] <MrGlass_> im trying to get a lampstack running
[08:23] <MrGlass_> on a vps runnign ubuntu 9.04 server
[08:24] <MrGlass_> but when i try "apt-get install apache2" i get an error that the repository deosnt exist
[08:42] <twb> LiraNuna: try nc <IP_ADDRESS> smtp <<<$'HELO google.com'
[08:42] <twb> Curiously, "nc <IP_ADDRESS> submission" doesn't respond to me.
[09:33] <quizme> hi, i can't get two patterns to run with expect..... is anybody familiar with the linux command expect?
[09:34] <twb> #tcl maybe?
[09:34] <twb> Or whatever the TCL channel is called
[09:35] <quizme> echo "wow" | expect -c 'expect {"hi"  { send "You said hi" }}' -c ' expect {"wow" {send "ruff ruff"}} '
[09:35] <quizme> expect: spawn id exp0 not open
[09:44] <roxy> somebody know how i can force to my samba member server to validate with ldao accounts?
[09:46] <MrGlass_> im trying to set up a lamp server. I install php, apache2, etc. When I browse to my site, my browser downloads the php file, instead of the server executing the script
[09:46] <MrGlass_> any ideas whats wrong?
[09:47] <_ruben> php module for apache is probably installed, but not enabled
[09:47] <MrGlass_> gow do i enable it
[09:47] <_ruben> sudo a2enmod php5
[09:48] <MrGlass_> says php5 is already enabled
[09:48] <_ruben> restart apache
[09:49] <MrGlass_> that did it
[09:49] <MrGlass_> thanks
[09:54] <ofnqwop> hi all, im trying to install my firewall using ufw. my server is server and router. i got 2 nic eth0 with <IP_ADDRESS> (intranet) and eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> (internet). i only whant some specific ports to be open to the net. but there are always all ports open.
[09:54] <ofnqwop> here my ufw
[09:54] <ofnqwop> Anywhere                   REJECT  Anywhere
[09:54] <ofnqwop> <IP_ADDRESS>                ALLOW   <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[09:54] <ofnqwop> 22                         ALLOW   Anywhere
[09:54] <ofnqwop> 80                         ALLOW   Anywhere
[09:54] <ofnqwop> 8245                       ALLOW   Anywhere
[09:54] <ofnqwop> 6667                       ALLOW   Anywhere
[10:02] <Daviey> ofnqwop: Are you sure you aren't looping back?
[10:03] <ofnqwop> no, because i dont know what this means :)
[10:03] <Daviey> ofnqwop: what is the host/ip, so we can check port 80, from outside your network?
[10:03] <ofnqwop> oh, i am testing from outside the network
[10:03] <_ruben> its ufw only meant for single host firewalling (protecting the box itself)?
[10:03] <Daviey> oh good.
[10:03] <_ruben> s/its/isnt/
[10:04] <Daviey> _ruben: i assume the box he's quoted is running ssh, httpd.. so that should still be blocked.. surely
[10:05] <ofnqwop> my results of a portscan to my ip @home
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 22/tcp   open     ssh           (protocol 2.0)
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 25/tcp   open     smtp         Postfix smtpd
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 53/tcp   open     tcpwrapped
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 80/tcp   open     http         lighttpd 1.4.19
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 111/tcp  open     rpcbind
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 135/tcp  filtered msrpc
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 139/tcp  filtered netbios-ssn
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 445/tcp  filtered microsoft-ds
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 901/tcp  open     http         Samba SWAT administration server
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 2000/tcp open     sieve        Dovecot timsieved
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 2049/tcp open     rpcbind
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 5060/tcp open     sip?
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 6667/tcp open     irc          BitlBee IRCd
[10:05] <ofnqwop> 8089/tcp open     upnp         Microsoft Windows UPnP
[10:09] <ofnqwop> any ideas?
[10:12] <jpds> ofnqwop: And you pastebin: sudo ufw status verbose
[10:13] <ofnqwop> http://pastebin.com/m42054b9e
[10:14] <jpds> Hmm, not sure then, maybe jdstrand would be able to help.
[10:15] <jpds> jdstrand: Also, do you have any opinions on bug #400622 ? :)
[10:15] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 400622 in ufw "Implement a safe-restart command" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/400622
[10:25] <ofnqwop> do i maybe have to "apply" the ufw settins?
[10:25] <ofnqwop> *settings
[10:26] <livio> morning
[10:27] <livio> do you guys think that ubuntu server 8.04 might be incompatible with the new proliant G6 servers ? Has anyone experienced problems with that ?
[10:28] <RoyK> livio: I have 8.04 running on a few G5 servers, but I don't know about G6
[10:29] <Tejas> Slow ssh login in 8.10 give me solultion ....
[10:30] <Tejas> in my server
[10:30] <RoyK> "give me solution" <-- not really a nice way to ask
[10:30] <andol> livio: Sounds that way http://www.ubuntu.com/news/hp-proliant-servers-certified-ubuntu
[10:31] <Tejas> sorry for that
[10:31] <andol> livio: Sorry, didn't saw you specifying 8.04
[10:31] <_ruben> slow ssh logins are dns related 90% of time
[10:32] <_ruben> machine failing to lookup of the hostname corresponding to the connecting ip
[10:33] <Tejas> i have already add a entry in the sshd_config for GSSAPIAuthentication yes  GSSAPIDelegateCredentials no
[10:40] <mattt> RoyK: give me solution!!!!
[10:42] <spiekey> Hi
[10:45] <spiekey> i would like to have file version 5.x on my system. Right now i have file-4.26.
[10:45] <spiekey> how would you upgrade this?
[10:46] <infekted> anyone familiar with mysql
[10:47] <mattt> infekted: what's the question?  :)
[10:48] <infekted> I keep getting this
[10:48] <infekted> Could not connect to the database, see error message below.
[10:48] <infekted> Access denied for user 'infekted'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[10:48] <infekted> im trying to instal phbb3
[10:48] <spiekey> infekted: this is not really ubuntu related...but check your mysql user permissions
[10:49] <mattt> access denied
[10:49] <spiekey> or try <IP_ADDRESS> instead of localhost
[10:49] <infekted> ok
[10:49] <infekted> ill check it out
[10:49] <spiekey> install phpmyadmin and have a look at the privileges
[10:49] <mattt> infekted: yeah, your user doesn't have permission
[10:49] <infekted> well I don't know if I even installed it right on my ubuntu in the first place im new to the mysql thing
[10:50] <spiekey> it MUST match the hostname, which sometimes is confusing ;) You can set diffrent privileged for diffrent sources
[10:50] <infekted> I don't even know what my mysql username and password is
[10:50] <infekted> I was never prmpted
[10:51] <spiekey> infekted: by default it should work with root and a empty password....install phpmyadmin, thats very useful
[10:51] <infekted> I tried it came up with errors
[10:51] <infekted> :9
[10:52] <infekted> I wish someone could just connect to my server and fixed what I fuggerd up
[10:53] <spiekey> well, then you would have a working mysql server, but no idea why it is working ;)
[11:16] <infekted> I think I should just reinstall mysql
[11:16] <infekted> see if I missed anything
[11:18] <infekted> could anyone help me set up a decent server for my website with a webmail client I always seem to screw something up
[11:20] <infekted> or not
[12:49] <stefanWW> Hello! Did any of you guys experienced any problems with installing and running ubuntu server 804 LTS on proliant servers G6 ?
[12:50] <stefanWW> it just freezes during the install process
[12:54] <_ruben> best to talk to the #ubuntu-installer people
[12:59] <stefanWW> thanks _ruben
[13:20] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #404321 in likewise-open (main) "gnome-screensaver should allow screen unlock even if account is locked out" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404321
[13:30] <andol> ttx: Curious about something. Sometimes I see you switch bugs from Incomplete to New. Is that to get them showing up in more searches, or is there some other thought?
[13:31] <ttx> andol: for me, when there is nothing the reporter can give us it should no longer be in incomplete
[13:31] <ttx> it should be in status "new" until we decide between invalid/confirmed
[13:31] <ttx> which in this case is tricky :)
[13:34] <andol> ttx: I guess that kind of makes sense. Is there any general policy/guideline/wisedom regarding incomplete->new by the way? Thinking of sending an email to ubuntu-bugsquad@ otherwise.
[13:34] <ttx> andol: ideally it should go incomplete -> confirmed/invalid
[13:34] <ttx> in this case I wanted it to appear in new lists as needing some attention
[13:35] <andol> ok
[13:36] <andol> ttx: Have a few (other) tickets which I'm not really sure what to do with. Perhaps it might be an idea to make them ->new as well?
[13:37] <ttx> andol: I'd say they should ne longer be in "incomplete" if there is nothing the reporter can do about them. better set them to NEW to bring them to developers attention
[13:38] <ttx> reporters don't like to see the deprecation countdown while they provided all requested info.
[13:39] <andol> ttx: Good advice, thanks
[15:31] <Stronghold_> sa
[15:31] <ball> I really want to be at the meeting this morning, but fork's on a school field trip and I need to meet her there at 15:00
[15:33] <vo> i'm trying to use kerberos login on my server. i've set it up and kinit works but krb5_pam doesn't. I get these "krb5_get_init_creds_password: Decrypt integrity check failed" errors in my auth.log. anyone seen that before?
[15:39] <ball> I'm impressed to see sabdfl in #ubuntu-meeting
[15:40] <genii> vo: I haven't personally seen that. But there seems something about it here: http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/ccs/people/kenh/kerberos-faq.html#badpass
[15:42] <vo> hmm thanks. i'm not sure what to check; when setting up a client you don't go through any key generation process or keytabs...
[16:11] <mdhafen> Hello channel.  I would like help with Gitosis.  I recently upgraded a server from 8.10 to 9.04, and now gitosis won't let me push to it.  The error is 'pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: gitosis==0.2'  Thanks.
[16:13] <mdhafen> I get the same error trying to clone from the server too.
[16:16] <genii> mdhafen: Is python-setuptools installed? This bug report seems to hint it might be required http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473022
[16:16] <uvirtbot`> Debian bug 473022 in gitosis "gitosis doesn't work without python-setuptools package" [Serious,Fixed]
[16:17] <mdhafen> yep.  dpkg reports python-setuptools installed at version 0.6c9-0ubuntu4
[16:18] <genii> mdhafen: See perhaps also http://kylecordes.com/2009/04/30/gitosis-ubuntu-jaunty/   which suggests python version may need to be 2.5 and not later
[16:18] <mdhafen> I'm looking at that page.  Kyle suggests installing newer packages from the debian pool.  What is your opinion of that suggestion?
[16:19] <genii> mdhafen: In the posts below, someone just set their default pythin to be 2.5 instead of 2.6 and found it to work
[16:20] <genii> I'd take that route before installing the debian packages
[16:21] <mdhafen> so you don't expect any other package to require python being at 2.6?
[16:23] <genii> You could test whatever apps you have which may expect some latest version. But I don't expect the changes from 2.5 to 2.6 would be so major as to have much impact
[16:23] <mdhafen> ok.  I'll try shifting python down then.  Thanks.
[16:24] <mdhafen> yep.  pushes fine now.  Thanks.
[16:25] <genii> mdhafen: You're welcome
[16:36] <stercor>  59  <Directory /home/*/public_html>
[16:36] <stercor>  60    #UserDir public_html
[16:36] <stercor>  61    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
[16:36] <stercor>  62  </Directory>
[16:37] <stercor> I'm trying to set up user directories for public_html
[16:40] <genii> stercor: I think all you really need to do is just enable the module userdir
[16:41] <stercor> genii: How?  I believe I'm using mod_so.
[16:42] <jdstrand> ofnqwop: the ufw cli command is useful for host-based firewalling, not routing. You can add iptables-restore style rules to /etc/ufw/before.rules for routing if you need routing
[16:42] <stercor> genii: LoadModule userdir path_to_module.
[16:42] <ofnqwop> JDStone, why routing? i whant to block everything :/
[16:42] <ofnqwop> jdstrand, sry
[16:43] <genii> stercor: Something like sudo a2enmod   and choose userdir
[16:45] <stercor> genii: that was too easy!  Thanks a bunch.
[16:45] <jdstrand> ofnqwop: perhaps I didn't read backscroll enough... 'sudo ufw enable' will block all incoming connections, except a few things like certain icmp packets, dhcp client responses and avahi
[16:45] <genii> stercor: You're welcome
[16:45] <jdstrand> ofnqwop: you can fine-tune that behavior by updating /etc/ufw/before.rules
[16:46] <stercor> genii: do I have to do this every time I reboot?
[16:46] <ofnqwop> oh ok, /etc/ufw/before.rules is the ip-tables script generated by ufw?
[16:46] <jdstrand> ofnqwop: not exactly
[16:47] <jdstrand> ofnqwop: see /usr/share/doc/ufw/README.gz for details
[16:47] <ofnqwop> ok
[16:48] <jdstrand> ofnqwop: see 'Layout' and possibly 'Chains'
[16:48] <ofnqwop> k, thx
[16:52] <genii> stercor: No, it will auto-load now the module every time apache starts normally
[16:52] <stercor> genii: Thanks again.
[17:33] <stercor> Of the 193 people in this channel, can someone enlighten me on Ubuntu's mechanism to get Apache2 and PostgreSQL working?
[18:01] <otacon1221> Which is better at allocating bandwidth, a dedicated router running NAT, DHCP, DNS, and WPA2 or a Linux server gateway running the same services?
[18:03] <ball> otacon1221: depends.
[18:03] <ball> ...but the Linux server is going to be more futureproof.
[18:03] <ball> ...and more flexible.
[18:04] <giovani|work> so, linux is a dedicated router if you make it one
[18:04] <giovani|work> many consumer routers run linux
[18:04] <ball> giovani: good point.
[18:04] <giovani|work> and a few commercial routers run some unix-type kernel
[18:04] <giovani|work> at the highest-end, typically the commercial devices will outperform a generic linux kernel
[18:04] <ball> giovani: BSD?
[18:04] <giovani|work> but you're not likely to be interested in the highest-end if you're asking
[18:05] <giovani|work> ball: some, yeah
[18:05] <giovani|work> your linux device will definitely outperform the features of a typical embedded router
[18:05] <ball> I have a machine here I've been planning to make a router out of.
[18:12] <stercor> Can someone enlighten me on Ubuntu's mechanism to get Apache2 and PostgreSQL working?
[18:52] <refnumzx> i am trying to configure dansguardian filtergroups under ubuntu jaunty. i have followed several how tos and when i set users to filter2 which is  suppoed to be unfiltered, they still get blocked. advice.
[18:54] <Fenix|work> Greetings and Salutations to one and all.
[18:57] <Fenix|work> Any Ubuntu admins here who have to deal with Windows boxes?
[18:57] <giovani|work> Fenix|work: on occasion, sure
[18:58]  * Fenix|work grumbles about Windows... too bad it pays the bills.
[18:58] <giovani|work> linux can pay more bills, generally
[18:58] <Fenix|work> giovani, I want to set up a syslog server and collect logs from all my windows, linux and cisco boxes.
[18:58] <Fenix|work> the last two are easy... the first, not so much.  I'm looking for suggestions.
[18:58] <giovani|work> Fenix|work: sounds like a good idea
[18:58] <ball> Fenix: I probably qualify
[19:00] <Fenix|work> giovani|work, I think so too... but I have two questions... a) how to get windows to syslog it's logs... and b) how to sort through all this data.
[19:00] <Fenix|work> ball, qualify for which, windows paying the bills, or dealing with windows boxes?
[19:01] <ball> Dealing with windows boxen, but at least they're on the desktop.  No Windows servers.
[19:03] <Fenix|work> yeah, I have the entire windows infrastructure to deal with
[19:04] <Fenix|work> anyone have any ideas on how to parse through all those syslogs?
[19:04] <Fenix|work> I think there's an ntsyslog agent so I think I might have that aspect covered... but logs are useless if you can't get anything meaningful from them in a timely manner.
[19:04] <ball> Fenix: Still, at least you're working, eh?
[19:05] <Fenix|work> I'm a windows admin who converted
[19:05]  * ball nods
[19:05] <ball> I've looked after Windows servers in the past, as part of some database work.  I wasn't that impressed.
[19:06] <ball> ...for servers that I have control over, Windows isn't on the list.
[19:06] <Fenix|work> I started playing with linux when the kernel was 0.95 on an IBM AIX server ... couldn't properly compile floppy drivers for it.
[19:07] <Fenix|work> then I switched to windows from Novell at my place of employ because it made sense
[19:07] <Fenix|work> but then I became a convert and am slowly moving servers to linux...
[19:08] <Fenix|work> any recommendations for parsing through syslog files?
[19:08] <Fenix|work> vast amounts of them too... hehe
[19:11] <jmedina> Fenix|work: probably using a different syslog daemon like syslog-ng which has more filters than sysklogd
[19:11] <jmedina> or probably rsyslog
[19:12] <ball> Fenix: I recommend coffee.
[19:13] <ball> Currently I run NetBSD on the few production servers I look after, but Ubuntu Server looks very promising indeed, so I'm hoping to migrate to that.
[19:15] <Fenix|work> I'm using 8.04LTS and it's rock solid
[19:15] <ball> I've been running it for a while on a casual Web server, but I want to try it on something more modern.
[19:16] <ball> (something that can virtualise a few of my old boxen)
[19:16] <Fenix|work> I have Ubuntu server running on several HP ProLiant servers
[19:16] <Fenix|work> the most powerful one I have now is a ProLiant DL 380 G5 with 32GB RAM and two quad core xeon processors
[19:17] <Fenix|work> runs my web, database and ftp server
[19:17] <Fenix|work> I have another DL380 that runs cvs and php/mysql for buzilla and a bunch of other miscellaneous web services that are internal.
[19:18] <Fenix|work> another is a full on proxy and another a reverse proxy.
[19:18]  * Fenix|work grumbles about the pain in the ass it was to reverse proxy microsoft exchange web outlook.
[19:20] <Fenix|work> ball, so what's coffee?
[19:20] <Fenix|work> besides a tasty beverage that I can't live without
[19:20] <ball> Fenix: that's the one.
[19:21] <ball> Fenis: do you use Smart Array RAID controllers at all?
[19:22] <ball> Our ML110 has a Smart Array E200 that I'm sure will work with Ubuntu, but I want to make sure I can query the health of the array remotely
[19:22] <ball> (it lives 130 miles away from me)
[19:22] <ball> (209 km)
[19:26] <genii> !coffee
[19:26]  * genii decides to have some
[19:35] <refnumzx> is anyone here familiar with configuring dansguardian and filtergroups? using ubuntu jaunty and stock debian files for dansguardian
[19:55] <mathiaz> ttx: do you have some time to review the libopendrim-common package on REVU?
[19:55] <mathiaz> ttx: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libopendrim-common
[19:55] <mathiaz> ttx: I've arleady gone back and forth with the uploader and it's in a good shape now
[19:56] <ttx> mathiaz: I will look into it.
[19:57] <mathiaz> ttx: merchi!
[19:58] <Fenix|work> ball, I can't remember exactly what the SmartArray card is, but it's detected in ubuntu
[19:59] <Fenix|work> ends up as /dev/cciss/c0dx
[19:59] <Fenix|work> ie... c0d0p1 and c0d0p2 in my case
[20:04] <ball> Fenix: do you use command-line utilities to check the health of your array?
[20:22] <refnumzx> 3/quit
[20:22] <Fenix|work> ball, no not at all...
[20:23] <Fenix|work> there's LED lights on the chassis that shows if there are problems.
[20:47] <mathiaz> ttx: hey - how do you test sfcb usually?
[20:47] <mathiaz> ttx: I'm working on updating cim-schema to the latest version
[20:47] <ttx> using the test case in WbemStackSpec
[20:48] <ttx> mathiaz: see Demo/test plan in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WBEMStackSpec
[20:48] <mathiaz> ttx: awesome. thanks!
[20:49] <ttx> First wbemcli query should return the classes for which it has a provider
[20:49] <ttx> Second one enumerates instances ("ei") of Linux_Processor
[20:53] <mathiaz> ttx: great - thanks.
[20:58] <Bookman> How do I share files using NFS instead of SMB?
[21:06] <Bookman> Or maybe how do I see other computers through a second router?
[21:07] <sailingboarder> does ubuntu server 9.04 come with any wireless drivers?
[21:07] <sailingboarder> i installed it on an old laptop, but the wireless card isn't detected
[21:13] <sailingboarder> are there any packages that come with ubuntu desktop, but not server, that have wireless drivers?
[22:22] <ball> Daviey: KVM Vs. qemu.  Is one better suited to server use than the other?
[22:24] <Daviey> ball: KVM..
[22:24] <jmedina> afaik, kvm uses qemu, kvm for production servers..
[22:24] <ball> Daviey: thanks
[22:24] <ball> jmedina too.
[22:25] <ball> I wish I had a faster machine at home to try this stuff on.
[22:25] <ball> ...don't want to disturb the production box until I've knocked it around a bit.
[22:25] <ball> Ooh, monitor just arced
[22:25] <ball> ...that's not good.
[22:42] <artillerytx> for some reason my server i sending me an email with this in it - http://paste.ubuntu.com/235464/
[22:44] <jmedina> artillerytx: I would better ask in ebox mailing lists
[22:44] <jmedina> that error is ebox specific
[22:44] <artillerytx> jmedina: well i don't want ebox i want it completely gone
[22:44] <artillerytx> so i removed it
[22:44] <jmedina> then remove the cron job
[22:44] <artillerytx> how do i remove the cron job
[22:45] <jmedina> just remove the file that trigre the error
[22:45] <jmedina> that one
[22:45] <jmedina>  /etc/cron.hourly/99purgeEBoxLogs
[22:45] <artillerytx> where is the cron file located
[22:46] <jmedina> did you read my las message?
[22:47] <artillerytx> oh so just remove that file
[22:47] <artillerytx> k
[23:49] <albdum> hello guys i have a problem with 2 of my 4 hard disks at the same pc desktop ubuntu mounts them fine on the other hand server doesn't :(
[23:50] <jmedina> albdum: how do you mont your disks?
[23:50] <jmedina> do you get a message when you mount them?
[23:50] <albdum> yeap
[23:50] <jmedina> how do you detect that 2 are not mounted?
[23:50] <jmedina> please give details
[23:50] <albdum> sure
[23:51] <albdum> sdc1 and sdd1 arent on /dev althrought sdc and sdd are there
[23:51] <albdum> also at fdisk -l sdc1 and sdd1 apear as well
[23:52] <jmedina> that means /dev/sdcc and /dev/sdd doesnt have a partition table
[23:52] <jmedina> could you pastebin the output from fdisk -l ?
[23:53] <albdum>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/235482/plain/ <---- fdisk -l
[23:53] <albdum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235484/ <------ls -l /dev/disk/*
[23:53] <jmedina> :)
[23:53] <jmedina> I see
[23:53] <albdum> :)
[23:53] <jmedina> sdc1 and sdd1 are NTFS partitions
[23:53] <albdum> they were before at raid
[23:53] <albdum> yeah
[23:54] <jmedina> ubuntu server wont mount partitions automatically unless you define it in /etc/fstab
[23:54] <jmedina> it is not a desktop
[23:54] <jmedina> sorry, Im running out of power
[23:54] <albdum> yeah but when i try manually to mount them they don't
[23:54] <albdum> check my fstab
[23:55] <albdum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235500/
[23:56] <albdum> same command three of them sdb1 is mounted ok the other 2 are not....
[23:56] <albdum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/235502/   <----- sudo mount -a


[03:02] <glebaron_> exit
[21:33] <trijntje> anyone of the two Kubuntu-docs people in the room?
[22:02] <jpds> trijntje: That would be jjesse and nixternal but I think they're both offline.
[22:16] <trijntje> jpds, thank you, i will try again later


[05:03] <git__> is there such thing as whitelist for bzr upload ?
[13:20] <gour> hello
[13:23] <gour> i see that, according to the posts on ml, 2.2.1 performs much better...we're looking for a dvcs (excluding git) to use for open-source project...i played with monotone and i like it, but it's not much supported/widely_used...how does bzr compares with hg on Mac (linux will be main platform, and i know about explorer and tortoise hg for non-gui users, so wonder about Mac OS)?
[13:24] <vila> gour: have you tried the OSX installer ?
[13:25] <gour> vila: no, i'm not using Mac..any gui tool there? (i'm fien with cli, but for other potential devs)
[13:25] <vila> gour: bzr-explorer is included
[13:25] <gour> vila: ohh, that's great...
[13:25] <gour> btw, how in general does bzr compare with hg today?
[13:30] <vila> gour: I'm not a big fan of general comparisons, one has to use tools for his own needs to compare and decide, there are far too many differences in perfs and perceived ease of use to get a clear cut
[13:32] <vila> that being said, I think the 2a format closed the gap with both hg ang git in terms of repo size
[13:33] <gour> vila: i'm aware of bzr's ease of use, and although i like darcs/monotone, here i'm thinking about making it easy for others...performance was something bzr was always complained about, so i'm just questioning about bzr's adoption these days in comparison with hg
[13:33] <vila> bzr has still a lot of potential areas for improvements, we'll get there when time permits ;)
[13:34] <gour> ok..but not some big perf. holes in 2.2, iow, in par with hg?
[13:34] <vila> well, if you ask *me*, I'd say perfs are roughly the same between hg abd bzr
[13:34] <vila> yup
[13:34] <gour> thanks
[13:34] <vila> you're welcome
[13:35] <vila> gour: the most important one I'm aware of for bzr these days if annotate with huge histories
[13:35] <gour> i'm sad ian is not around any longer to see bzr's harvest :-(
[13:35] <vila> :-/
[13:36] <gour> vila: have you ever tried monotone?
[13:37] <vila> no. AIUI the data model is an interesting one, but implies that you can run into combinatorial explosions without notice
[13:38] <vila> iow, it doesn't scale. But there are certainly interesting ideas for small scale sort of stuff (including a single submission from a single dev even for big projects)
[13:39] <gour> security model with signed certs is really nice
[13:43] <vila> oh, we have a pending bug for that in bzr ;-) Not a big amount of work, but nobody stepped up for it so far (well, I remembered one attempt but it was blocked because the contributor didn't want to sign the agreement :-( )
[13:43] <awilkins> git gives you those properties for signed commits
[13:43] <vila> awilkins: I think gour is referring to a different part of the workflow, you *can* sign your commits with bzr
[13:43] <gour> awilkins: i simply cannot stand git's 'design'
[13:44] <gour> right. monotone allows you to have kind ogf QA
[13:44] <vila> certs are supposed to be used to control access to repos in broader terms: can you push a set of revisions including ones you didn't create yourself
[13:45] <awilkins> gour, I have found bzr much easier to grok than git ; I'm currently in the learning process for git because it has some properties that Hg and bzr do not in terms of a particular use case
[13:46] <gour> bzr kind a 'favors' left branch during merge, right?
[13:47] <gour> awilkins: git is ungrokable for me :-)
[13:48] <awilkins> gour, I had a three day headache for Bazaar because I'd been using SVN for so long .... I kept checking merges very carefully because I couldn't actually believe it was that easy
[13:48] <gour> he he...svn
[13:49] <awilkins> git is rather the next step on that ladder - it does so many things silently and quickly, you're not sure anything actually happened
[13:49] <awilkins> Makes one nervous
[13:49] <gour> even shooting you in your own feet...silently :-D
[13:50] <awilkins> gour, I'm having to tutor people on VCS this week - the management are insisting that I focus on SVN "because it's what we already use" rather than break new ground and help people to be more productive with DVCS
[13:51] <gour> awilkins: :-( tell them about monotone as well ;)
[13:51] <awilkins> Despite my last project having a team of 10 using Bazaar on a daily basis (these are non-programmers too, a few shell scripts to walk them through the merges and they are just fine 95% of the time)
[13:51] <gour> awilkins: otoh, bzr can be used almost like svn
[13:51] <awilkins> gour, I tried Monotone, I wouldn't go back to it
[13:52] <gour> awilkins: why not? 1.0 is around the corner...actually 0.99
[13:52] <awilkins> gour, The bzr-svn plugin is excellent too ; by far the most seamless SVn interaction of any DVCS
[13:52] <awilkins> gour, Although git-svn copes with boneheads who can't use VCS better
[13:53] <awilkins> gour, It's mostly a question of popularity - I liked the properties of Monotone, but I honestly found it harder to pick up than Bazaar, and it's nowhere near as popular as git
[13:54]  * gour nods
[13:54] <awilkins> So in terms of my VCS "portfolio", I'm going to pick the best-in-class for given roles and ignore the rest
[13:54] <gour> bzr?
[13:55] <awilkins> SVN - old fogies who want CVCS ; Bazaar - nearly everyone else ; git - For when you need Phenomenal Cosmic Power
[13:55] <gour> lol
[13:55] <gour> git - for Suicidal inclinations
[13:56] <awilkins> e.g. - I'm looking at using git for the version control of object counts in the 10's of millions ; probably needs a lot of new porcelain but I can't imagine the inventory-based DVCS systems (Hg, bzr) coping with that.
[13:57] <awilkins> git, OTOH, means that commits can re-use tree objects so where the edit rate is low the number of objects you have to add for a new commit shouldn't be too bad
[13:57] <gour> monotone & sqlite3 back-end?
[13:59] <awilkins> gour, I'd need to review the monotone data structure a bit and see if I thought it was a good for for this
[13:59] <vila> awilkins: feedback on where in the merges people encounter problems highly welcome
[14:00] <gour> awilkins: do it...
[14:01] <awilkins> vila, Does Bazaar store inventories as deltas?
[14:01] <vila> awilkins: with 2a we started seriously to stop requiring manipulating the inventory by using chk maps
[14:02] <vila> awilkins: roughly yes
[14:02] <vila> meh, *store* yes, but I think some parts of the code base still doesn't use it optimally (imbw though)
[14:02] <awilkins> vila, The reason I'm only considering git for this 10s-of-millions-of-objects thing is that if you break the keys for the objects into "trees", then a new commit will re-use most of the existing tree objects ; only the trees with changed objects and their ancestors will need to change, so the revision storage size will be smaller
[14:03] <vila> awilkins: yes, that's what drove the chk introduction
[14:03] <awilkins> vila, Plus the project is hostile to reciprocal licenses and jgit has a liberal license
[14:03] <vila> awilkins: but it mostly apply to inventories
[14:03] <vila> awilkins: EPARSE reciprocal licenses ?
[14:04] <awilkins> vila, GPL, anything with copyleft
[14:05] <awilkins> vila, Government IT projects seem to have been convinced that GPL is evil by their corporate partners (who naturally want to be able to take all our hard work and sell it back to us)
[14:05] <vila> awilkins: ...  "viral" nature of GPL applying to versioned content non-sense ?
[14:05] <awilkins> vila, No, I've not seen the "GPL applies to the data!!!" fallacy yet
[14:05] <vila> pfew
[14:06] <vila> I'm certainly biased, but my feeling is that more and more people start to grok the floss implications...
[14:06] <awilkins> vila, But the last internal report I saw was rather biased, uses language like "permissive" for BSD-style and "non-permissive" for GPL, and had a number of inaccuracies
[14:07] <vila> right, that's a small incremental progress :)
[14:07] <awilkins> What I can't understand is the willingness to pour public funds into projects under a license that allows corporate types to take the code and make proprietary projects out of it
[14:07] <vila> hehe, exactly
[14:08]  * gour will use gpl3 licence for upcoming project
[14:08] <vila> the day people will realize that people money is so better use when funding public projects (which GPL is *all* about), things will change
[14:08] <awilkins> I know that the perception is that the companies will take their ball and go play somewhere else... but - really? They are going to turn down a slice of the £12 Billion NHS IT budget?
[14:08] <vila> s/use/used/
[14:08] <awilkins> Even our internal open-source advocates are nervous about copyleft
[14:09] <vila> I've yet to see companies *losing* by turning GPL, whereas new ones *win* every day
[14:09] <vila> and following Oracle moves these days is... interesting :)
[14:10] <awilkins> I'll use GPL for internal tools in preference to proprietary code, even if we already have licenses for it, just because it means I can fix the bugs myself and not have to wait for support
[14:11] <vila> community support is a reality hardly denied these days...
[14:11] <awilkins> And I'm presently operating a policy of turning down requests for Office documents as output formats for reports unless they can justify a 5-fold increase in costs for that module :-P
[14:12] <awilkins> Just an estimate. But I know for sure that it's harder than CSV or HTML.
[14:12] <vila> oh, you mean the *other* Office, not the open one ? <grin/>
[14:13] <vila> I give my best wishes to http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ...
[14:13] <awilkins> Not tried ODF exports
[14:13] <awilkins> We have the input filters installed so I guess they'd be able to view them in Office.
[14:13] <awilkins> We just cancelled our NHS-wide agreement for MS products, so everyone is having to audit themselves
[14:14] <awilkins> Or so I hear... Mentioned it to Mr Shuttleworth (shameless-namedrop) in the release party channel and he wanted the phone number for our IT director :-p
[14:14] <vila> hehe
[14:15] <awilkins> An "office of open office migration investigation" would cost us much less than our Software Assurance I'm sure
[14:16] <awilkins> Naieve numbers would be say, 1M licenses at SA rates of 29% of retail - ~ £125M per annum
[14:16] <awilkins> For Office Pro
[14:17] <awilkins> For £62.5M I'll fork, maintain, support and train  NhsOpenOffice, and run a "MS addiction clinic" for people with VBA Macros and Access databases.
[14:17] <gour> rotfl
[14:17] <awilkins> (and buy a place in the Maldives :-P )
[14:18] <vila> hehe, yeah, think about giving  even part of that to http://www.documentfoundation.org/ instead of forking....
[14:19] <vila> if only to make other organizations think about doing the same...
[14:19] <awilkins> Indeed. My fork would be a thinly branded branch of the official one - and I'd probably subcontract a lot of that cash to documentfoundation.org :-)
[14:19] <vila> and compare what has been invested in the MS one and what we got in return...
[14:20] <awilkins> A few NHS useful plugins like ... oooh,  GPG support for confidential patient records.
[14:21] <vila> people always ask me: but how is floss making money ? To which I like to answer: look, it works, you use it more and more and you didn't put *any* money in it, now, think about giving a small percentage of what you gave to proprietary software... What do you think you will get in return ?
[14:22] <vila> And by the way, when was the last time you found you couldn't open one of those documents you created 10 years ago ?
[14:22] <awilkins> The answer is - exactly what you wanted, instead of what the focus groups in Richmond wanted.
[14:23] <vila> ..and more ;)
[14:23] <awilkins> FOSS offers you the opportunity to engage in patronage again
[14:24] <vila> with the guarantee that nobody will be able to steal it anymore.. what did you say about GPL again ? :-D
[14:24] <awilkins> Only you get to build on the shoulders of giants, unlike Michaelangelo or Da Vinci
[14:24] <awilkins> Who were great but had to start from scratch
[14:24] <vila> growing giants :)
[14:50] <roryy> is the output of 'bzr status -S' supposed to match that of 'svn status' closely?  'bzr help status' isn't too clear.
[14:54] <awilkins> The status columns aren't wide enough to match SVN
[14:54] <awilkins> So I'm guessing no
[14:55] <awilkins> SVN has more columns out front (6 AFAIK)
[14:58] <roryy> yeah, 7
[15:03] <roryy> actually a little different from SVN; e.g., for a new file svn shows 'A      foo', bzr st -S '+N   foo'
[15:21] <CcxCZ> launchpad is broken with py2.7; it's fixed on trunk (allegedly); trunk is on launchpad :-[
[15:23] <Glenjamin> can you bzr export trunk from another machine?
[15:25] <CcxCZ> maybe, let me try
[15:29] <CcxCZ> yes, the tricky part will be getting it into system without breaking anything
[15:30] <CcxCZ> maybe it's sufficient to replace the plugins/launchpad directory?
[15:32] <Glenjamin> Depends what the problem is i guess, but sounds like it should work
[15:33] <Glenjamin> in fact, you might be better off grabbing the launchpad plugin folder and putting it into ~/.bazaar/plugins
[15:34] <CcxCZ> Glenjamin: is there separate project/repository for that?
[15:34] <Glenjamin> afaik, no - you'll have to grab the whole bzr trunk and copy it out (or symlink it)
[15:36] <CcxCZ> nope, it still causes error with xmlrpclib
[15:37] <Glenjamin> what OS are you on?
[15:37] <CcxCZ> gentoo linux ~amd64
[15:37] <CcxCZ> but maybe I grabbed wrong version of bzr
[15:38] <Glenjamin> if you built it from source, you should just be able to grab trunk and make && sudo make install
[15:39] <Glenjamin> or if you have multiple pythons installed, you might be able to force the bzr executable to use 2.6
[15:45] <CcxCZ> Glenjamin: hmm, but I don't have paramiko installed for 2.6, is that necessary for pulls from launchpad?
[15:45] <Glenjamin> if you set BZR_SSH=ssh i think you can fall back to the system ssh executable
[15:45] <Glenjamin> i havent' done that for a while though, so no promises
[15:49] <CcxCZ> lp:bzr is supposed to be the trunk, right?
[15:49] <Glenjamin> typ
[15:49] <Glenjamin> *yup
[16:01] <CcxCZ> I still get this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/273593/ can you confirm that this is the fixed error?
[16:08] <Glenjamin> yeah, thats the issue
[16:08] <Glenjamin> https://code.launchpad.net/~toshio/bzr/python27-lp-fix/+merge/35487
[16:08] <Glenjamin> thats the fix
[16:16] <CcxCZ> so it's not bug with launchpad but with bzr http transport
[16:16] <CcxCZ> that explains it
[16:48] <CcxCZ> so I slapped the patch on top of source package and it seems to work, thanks
[16:50] <CcxCZ> btw when is next release scheduled?
[16:51] <Glenjamin> not a clue, i'm just a user :)
[18:49] <bkgood> anyone have a good cia hook? the only one I can find relies on bzrlib.delta.compare_trees which has apparently been deprecated quite a while ago and since removed
[18:51] <jelmer_> bkgood, hi
[18:52] <jelmer_> bkgood, the bzr-cia plugin on launchpad should be up to date
[18:52] <jelmer_> if that raises deprecation warnings, please file a bug
[18:58] <bkgood> jelmer_: no deprecation warnings, thank you! might want to update http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/plugins/en/cia-plugin.html
[22:40] <peitschie> mornin all


[15:59] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/ubuntu_palette_0.1.gpl
[15:59] <kwwii> everyone test that out
[16:08] <_MMA_> The palettes dialog in GIMP really ought to have a importer.
[16:09] <_MMA_> Otherwise, putting it in /.gimp-2.4/palettes works.
[16:11] <theDtTvB2> _MMA_: Right click -> Import palette?
[16:13] <_MMA_> I see. That's not very discoverable. A button with the others on the bottom would be best.
[16:14] <theDtTvB2> It took me time to find the menu. It would be good to have some buttons.
[16:15] <theDtTvB2> But I think it has a lot of buttons already.
[17:44] <psyke83> hey
[18:17] <darkmatter> cool... deja vu... but in a windows way


[00:04] <krytarik> A few things I've noticed on this week's UWN issue (and generally): 1.) "Kubuntu Graphic Design Contest" is the actual title of the relevant post rather than the header in it that you took as it.  2.) As I keep saying, we should try and put an empty line between bulleted lists and their header, and there is also one missing between the "Other Community News" section header and the first item
[00:05] <krytarik> of it.  3.) There are a few irregularities in the spacing of bullet points in this issue, where some have no space in front of them at all, while usually there is exactly one, and some others instead have three in front of them.
[00:10] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Working to make them so :D
[00:10] <guiverc> thanks Bashing-om & krytarik
[00:26] <Bashing-om> krytarik: All better now :D
[00:30] <krytarik> Thanks!  And I'm just gonna trust you here, since most of it can't be seen in the rendered Discourse post anyway.. >_<  Just generally it'd be nice if the mailing list subscribers could read it too.
[00:32] <krytarik> That is, I tend to only read it via the mailing list posting, which is also why I spot that kind of formatting issues.
[00:35] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Gratifying to know that you care :D
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