[12:18] <CaBlGuY> Oh, can someone help with accessing my slave drive?
[12:19] <CaBlGuY> it's a winblowz NTFS system drive
[12:19] <digitalfreedom> is it mounted?
[12:19] <Murrlin> ok I'm a dumba**. its 15-26.386 not 686
[12:19] <CaBlGuY> no, not mounted yet..
[12:19] <Schuenemann> CaBlGuY: look in /media
[12:19] <CaBlGuY> hang on..
[12:20] <CaBlGuY> K, nope, not there..
[12:21] <Schuenemann> CaBlGuY: no folders there?
[12:21] <Schuenemann> like hda, hdb
[12:21] <CaBlGuY> yes..  I got into it..
[12:22] <CaBlGuY> and there are my CD-Rom floders, but no windowz folder..
[12:22] <CaBlGuY> cdrom0 cdrom1 floppy etc..
[12:22] <Schuenemann> no hda, hdb?
[12:23] <CaBlGuY> no sir..
[12:23] <Schuenemann> I think you mount using mount /dev/hd* folder
[12:23] <Schuenemann> where folder is the destination folder
[12:23] <Perseid> I can't edit any grub configuration if I boot from the install cd?
[12:24] <CaBlGuY> and I would need to know what the name of the dev is yes?
[12:24] <Schuenemann> yeah... first hd is hda, second is hdb...
[12:25] <CaBlGuY> ok..  so lemme try and see what happenes..   if I remeber right, last time we did it, we had to use FS Tab..
[12:26] <bones78> Howdy everyone.
[12:26] <tim_lynch> I'm thinking of installing kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop, but I was wondering what partitioning program the installer uses- should I partition before I start installing?
[12:27] <Perseid> I'm really at a loss. I can't boot my computer at all.
[12:27] <CaBlGuY> !mount
[12:27] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:27] <BluesKaj> wondering about the existing libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/firefox/plugin, whether or not it should be deleted and replaced with the flash9 version ?
[12:27] <bones78> Installation gives you the option the alter your partition if needed.
[12:28] <bones78> I believe it's under the advanced heading.
[12:28] <BluesKaj> GParted rocks ..QTParted is iffy
[12:29] <_kuja_> Bah, both of them suck. GNUparted rules the seas!
[12:29] <Perseid> Anyone? Help with grub? When I boot all I get is the grub command line.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> GParted is GNUparted :)
[12:30] <_kuja_> A frontend for lawn GNOMES :O
[12:30] <tim_lynch> ok. just to be safe I'll partition before I start installation- I don't want to get stuck halfway and end up erasing my hd
[12:30] <pacman> anyone know what the latest version of Java is for LInux?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> yes partitioniong first is usually the best practice, tim_lynch
[12:31] <CaBlGuY> Schuenemann:  I aint seein anything and the mount isn't working..
[12:31] <tim_lynch> well I'm going to get started on that- I'll be back if my computer is destroyed
[12:31] <tim_lynch> thanks for the help
[12:31] <bones78> You can draw the partition up as you see fit.........you don't need to write your partition straight away.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> tim_lynch, use Gparted live cd ...DL it first and burn it to a cd and use that to boot up , then do the partitioning with tools
[12:32] <BluesKaj> phooey
[12:32] <BluesKaj> some ppl have no patience
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !fs tab
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs tab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !fstab
[12:33] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:33] <SupremeBeing> !xgl
[12:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !Partitions
[12:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:33] <bones78> Why use gparted when the ubuntu cd can partition ok?
[12:34] <_kuja_> not a bad question.
[12:34] <BluesKaj> it's easier with the GParted
[12:34] <_kuja_> define easy
[12:35] <bones78> I've never used gparted (or qparted) but I'm guessing they can resize partitions?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> hehe , why ask for a deininition when just effective without having to fool with the QTParted disk
[12:36] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: ever used beryl?
[12:36] <SupremeBeing> SupremeBeing:  hi
[12:36] <_kuja_> Qtparted actually let me try to resize my XFS partition. That's how I spell disaster.
[12:36] <CaBlGuY> O_0
[12:37] <Zamber> !beryl
[12:37] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:37] <SupremeBeing> CaBlGuY: lol?
[12:37] <CaBlGuY> :)
[12:37] <SupremeBeing> I know what it is, i've installed it twice, then it screws me and freezes...
[12:37] <bones78> For a novice/windows convert........wouldn't using the partitioner on the insatll cd suffice?
[12:38] <slop> how do i find out what driver my sound card is using?
[12:38] <crimsun> slop: cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:39] <dejan> anyone know how to fix media player so it plays wmv and dvd properly. i had it fixed but all of a sudden its not working correctly
[12:39] <slop> crimsun, thanks
[12:39] <bones78> I don't know about wmv but just installing libdvdcss should cure dvd's
[12:40] <CaBlGuY> dejan:  what player u usin?
[12:40] <CaBlGuY> Howdy crimsun  o/
[12:41] <ubuntu> can someone help me plz? i want to install kubuntu 6,06,1 but it doesnt say anything about INSTALLING GRUB
[12:41] <ubuntu> will it install it or no
[12:41] <ubuntu> ?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> it will
[12:41] <Zamber> yep
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> yes it will
[12:42] <crimsun> unless you use lvm in which case it won't (it'll use lilo)
[12:42] <ubuntu> but in "ready to install" it says nothing about gruB
[12:42] <ubuntu> i plan use dualboot
[12:42] <ubuntu> but am afraid it wont install
[12:42] <ubuntu> so it will ty guys
[12:42] <BluesKaj> well , grub will be the way to go
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> yes, grub is the defualt install
[12:43] <BluesKaj> if you preserve your hda1 NTFS then grub is the choice
[12:43] <bones78> ubuntu install will resize, and install grub for you.  You could even alter what OS you want it to time into.
[12:44] <ubuntu> ppl do u advise me to upgrade to 6.10?
[12:45] <slop> is there a way to check that i have the newest driver for my sound card installed?
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu I just did and it's very nice..
[12:45] <bones78> Some say it's as stable as 6.06 for everyday desktop use.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> well,  I like edgy ...works better on my pc
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> only thing you would have to install is basic stuff..
[12:46] <digitalfreedom> i love looking at /proc
[12:46] <BluesKaj> yes slop, system settings/monitor&display/hardware
[12:46] <ubuntu> and how long does the upgrade take?
[12:47] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu I just DL the iso and did a fresh install..
[12:47] <ubuntu> ah i got some problem swith installing 6.10
[12:47] <bones78> As long as a install
[12:47] <CaBlGuY> if you do the upgrade thorugh at-get upgrade, would probably be faster..
[12:47] <digitalfreedom> can pipe cat?
[12:47] <digitalfreedom> you*
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> root@beau-desktop:/proc# cat |uptime version
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> usage: uptime [-V]
[12:49] <digitalfreedom>     -V    display version
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> guess not
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> im sure i did it wrong
[12:49] <digitalfreedom> bu bye
[12:50] <ubuntu> WTF scanning the mirror
[12:50] <ubuntu> wat is that plz?
[12:51] <I_Eat_Plastic> What's a good audio editor for KDE? :o
[12:53] <MongooseOFdoom> audacity
[12:53] <BluesKaj> editor how?
[12:54] <MongooseOFdoom> I_Eat_Plastic,  audacity?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> gnormalize seems ok
[12:55] <slop> how do i download a package from backports?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> slop, did you find your soundcard in the list in systems settings
[12:58] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:58] <slop> BluesKaj, yeah, but that wasn't the problem...now i'm trying to figure out how to download a packge from backports...dow you know how?
[12:58] <snowice> hello, is it possible to use arts with amarok, since the xine engine is broken?
[12:59] <SupremeBeing> images?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> slop, you have to make sure you have the backport repository in your sources list
[01:00] <slop> BluesKaj, i did that part....now how do i make sure i'm downloading a package from that repo?
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> snowice, i think so
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe #amarok would know as well
[01:01] <BluesKaj> adept or apt will search the repos for the pakg and DL and install it for you
[01:01] <_kuja_> slop: it'll always be a newer version in the backports, and apt will always install the newest version by default
[01:01] <slop> ah ok
[01:01] <slop> thx :)
[01:02] <BluesKaj> well, you can upgrade adept too
[01:03] <snowice> Admiral_Chicago, thanks, but I can't find the arts-engine, which was available in previous versions of amarok. You know how to set it up?
[01:03] <Admiral_Chicago> no i'm using the newest version of Amarok
[01:04] <snowice> so you're probably using the xine-engine
[01:05] <julle> how i change the soundcard in alsamixer ?
[01:07] <snowice> julle, man alsamixer, the -c option
[01:11] <dm> how do i change the theme in KDE?
[01:12] <dm> anyone???
[01:15] <I_Eat_Plastic> Hey, has anyone ever installed iTunes via cedega?
[01:15] <I_Eat_Plastic> or wine
[01:19] <nerdzyboy> How can I install libc6 (>= 2.4-1) under kubuntu 6.06?
[01:22] <nerdzyboy> can anyone help me?
[01:23] <bLaZeD> I_Eat_Plastic, why would u do that?
[01:23] <I_Eat_Plastic> bLaZeD, for my cell phone
[01:23] <bLaZeD> I_Eat_Plastic, hmm have u tried gtkpod?
[01:23] <I_Eat_Plastic> No, :D
[01:23] <bLaZeD> !gtkpod > I_Eat_Plastic
[01:23] <bLaZeD> !gtkpod
[01:23] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[01:24] <bLaZeD> not sure if it will work for a cell phone
[01:24] <I_Eat_Plastic> Well see.
[01:24] <bLaZeD> but works great for my ipod
[01:24] <I_Eat_Plastic> :]
[01:24] <bLaZeD> =)
[01:27] <rance> how do you check for packages that were installed as a dependency that are now orphaned after the parent packages was uninstalled?
[01:28] <nerdzyboy> please help me... I need to install this package in order to install beryl...
[01:33] <bones78> Anyone run kubuntu?
[01:33] <I_Eat_Plastic> no
[01:33] <bones78> xenol needs help
[01:33] <I_Eat_Plastic> .. that was a joke :P
[01:33] <rance> in the #kubuntu channel you ask that?
[01:34] <bones78> lol
[01:34] <notech> nerdzyboy: installing beryl should bring in anything it needs if using apt-get or the gui
[01:34] <bones78> yup
[01:34] <Xenol> i need help cause when i click on admin mode in login manager it doesnt ask for root password
[01:34] <bones78> I have kde installed, but am used to gnome
[01:34] <rance> Xenol, its not supposed to, that the main difference between k/ubuntu and the rest of linux
[01:34] <rance> no root password
[01:35] <rance> it wants YOUR password
[01:35] <Xenol> i know
[01:35] <bones78> He doesn't get asked for his password either
[01:35] <bones78> just a red box
[01:35] <rance> oh you mean it doesnt ask for a password at all
[01:35] <Xenol> but when i click for admin mode it onlz show red rectangle and no options in it
[01:35] <notech> why would you want to login to the gui as root anyway?
[01:35] <Xenol> zup
[01:35] <Xenol> yup
[01:35] <rance> sorry misunderstood you
[01:35] <Xenol> np :)
[01:36] <rance> only think I ever did from the login manager was login to a console to fix X
[01:36] <rance> gotta go
[01:36] <nerdzyboy> it tells me that it cant be installed
[01:37] <notech> Xenol:  why would you want to login to the gui as root anyway?
[01:37] <notech> nerdzyboy: no reason why?
[01:37] <bones78> All he is after is automtic login and altering grub for auto OS
[01:37] <nerdzyboy> not really
[01:37] <Xenol> notech no root login i only need to change settings for auto login
[01:37] <nerdzyboy> it sees the dependencies but tells me that they wont be installed
[01:38] <notech> login and user and use sudo to access whatever config utility it uses for that
[01:38] <freddan> trying to play a regular .mp3 file with Amarok but keep getting this "no suitable input plugin".. does that mean i dont have any codec to play mp3 or what ?
[01:38] <notech> login as
[01:38] <nerdzyboy> the only package that cant be installed is xserver-xgl because it needs a newer version of libc6
[01:39] <triki> what do you do when libc6 is broken ?
[01:39] <notech> nerdzyboy: checked for that libc6 in repo's? i'm guessing maybe you don't have a full list o sources
[01:40] <nerdzyboy> just noticed universe was commented...
[01:40] <nerdzyboy> I'll try again
[01:42] <freddan> atleast thats what im guessing the problem is, however i noticed i do have libxine1 installed and as far as i can tell that should be able to handle mp3
[01:43] <nerdzyboy> xserver-xgl depends on libc6 2.4-1 but the newest version in the repositories is 2.3.6
[01:43] <triki> you trying to get amarok to play mp3's ?
[01:43] <nerdzyboy> *in my repositories anyway...
[01:43] <nerdzyboy> wat should I add?
[01:43] <freddan> triki: yes
[01:44] <freddan> no input plugin problem
[01:45] <triki> ya i had the same problem, skipped all mp3's right ?
[01:45] <freddan> yeah
[01:46] <triki> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs
[01:46] <nerdzyboy> what should I do?
[01:47] <triki> run that
[01:51] <triki> how did it go ?
[01:53] <Xenol> wat package whould i DL so i can see avi on kubuntu?
[01:53] <triki> what players do you have installed ?
[01:55] <freddan> triki: well those 2 + some more that was required is installed now
[01:55] <Xenol> kaffenie
[01:55] <freddan> but i seem to get the same error in amarok
[01:55] <Xenol> but want something better
[01:55] <freddan> maybe i need to change some setting
[01:55] <triki> did you close amarok and reopen it ?
[01:55] <Xenol> can u advise me smth?
[01:56] <triki> xmms plays mp3's
[01:58] <freddan> yeah i did restart it but still get the same error
[01:58] <triki> hmmm
[01:58] <triki> one sec
[01:58] <VR^> hey guys... how can i make firefox look a bit more like a KDE app? all the themes are sort of... lame.
[02:00] <_kuja_> I concur VR^ ... I couldn't find a theme that matched when I looked either.
[02:00] <junky> buenas a todos alguien me puede ayudar?? plz
[02:00] <triki> freddan: try putting that into /etc/apt/source file ---- deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[02:00] <junky> soy novato en linux  i e instalado kubuntu por primera vez... todo mas o menos bien menos el sonido
[02:00] <junky> k no me va
[02:01] <junky> llevo muchas horas metido en eso i no lo logro
[02:01] <junky> alguien me podria echar unamano?
[02:01] <intelikey> VR^ mmmm use konqueror ?
[02:01] <intelikey> :)
[02:02] <VR^> i dont enjoy konqueror :(
[02:02] <triki> make it look more like a kde app ?
[02:02] <VR^> triki: yes
[02:02] <triki> you can download firefox themes
[02:02] <triki> from mozilla
[02:02] <_kuja_> Opera can be made to look very kde-ish
[02:02] <VR^> i know, but none of them seem to cut it.
[02:03] <triki> you can try to make one :P
[02:03] <triki> with gimp
[02:03] <VR^> oh what fun that would be
[02:03] <_kuja_> All the icons are already made, you just need to plug them into the theme I'm guessing.
[02:03] <triki> change colors and icons sizes if you want
[02:04] <notech> konqueror and other kde apps kinda look lame, hard to answer your question :)
[02:04] <intelikey> mmmm or just use konqueror ?
[02:04] <freddan> triki: its 2am already, think ill try again tomorrow instead :) thanks for the help tho
[02:04] <VR^> konqueror doesnt display pages as well as firefox does
[02:04] <_kuja_> VR^ it does if they're written properly
[02:04] <triki> ok np
[02:05] <VR^> _kuja_: yeah, but most of them seem to not be.
[02:05] <intelikey> most aren't
[02:05] <VR^> even kubuntu.org and the ubuntu wiki look different in konq.
[02:05] <VR^> the font is smaller
[02:05] <intelikey> lol
[02:05] <intelikey> ^+
[02:06] <_kuja_> Some of them are downright evil, such that they rely on rendering bugs to render "properly"
[02:07] <intelikey> VR^ font size is a real problem these days   :)
[02:08] <intelikey> it's not like there are four or five ways to change that......      oh wait, yse it is....
[02:08] <VR^> it looks ok if i hit ctrl+
[02:08] <VR^> i didnt know how to make that setting stick, though
[02:08] <intelikey> in the menu   configure
[02:09] <VR^> im not in kde now
[02:09] <VR^> =D
[02:09] <intelikey> ok.
[02:09] <VR^> i dont know... something draws me to kde, but i always go back to gnome
[02:09] <VR^> then i get bored of it
[02:10] <VR^> and the cycle starts anew
[02:10] <intelikey> so you're wishy-washy, who isn't
[02:10] <Xenol> plz can i delete kubuntu memtest and failsafe delete or hide somehow from GRUB list?
[02:11] <digitalfreedom> you sure can
[02:11] <digitalfreedom> in system settings go to boot
[02:11] <digitalfreedom> then edit the boot list
[02:11] <intelikey> Xenol or just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst dirrectly.
[02:11] <intelikey> both work.
[02:11] <Xenol> so i need to delete those parts i dont want to have there?
[02:12] <intelikey> yep
[02:12] <digitalfreedom> dont delete thhem
[02:12] <digitalfreedom> just remove from the list
[02:12] <intelikey> or comment them out
[02:12] <Xenol> and set time?
[02:12] <Xenol> need to edit timeout?
[02:12] <intelikey> digitalfreedom and why not delete ?
[02:13] <digitalfreedom> i dont delete anything
[02:13] <intelikey> Xenol it's all in  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:13] <digitalfreedom> you may need to boot onto failsafe or something in the future
[02:13] <digitalfreedom> id rather keep and not need it then need it and not have it
[02:13] <intelikey> digitalfreedom you can boot to failsafe with the entry....
[02:13] <Xenol> so any way i can do it doesnt show in boot list and can hide it?
[02:14] <digitalfreedom> yes X
[02:14] <digitalfreedom> i dont delete anything
[02:15] <Xenol> so how to hide it?
[02:15] <intelikey> # <-- lines beginning with the hash mark or poind sign  which ever you call it.  are ignored.   same as deleting it.
[02:16] <intelikey> # this is how things are commonly commented out in linux configuration files.
[02:16] <digitalfreedom> no kidding
[02:16] <intelikey> digitalfreedom be nice.
[02:16] <digitalfreedom> who said i was being mean?
[02:17] <digitalfreedom> jusy aknowledging your leetness is all
[02:18] <intelikey> the() { the $ the you say } ; the
[02:18] <intelikey> so 1337 your self
[02:18] <digitalfreedom> be nice now
[02:19] <digitalfreedom> just helping n00bs not make mistakes
[02:19] <Xenol> yeah help in darkness :D
[02:20] <digitalfreedom> darkness? eh w00t
[02:22] <intelikey> the blind tour guide said "don't worry, if the lights fail i can still get you out of the cave"
[02:26] <intelikey> !seen zizer
[02:26] <ubotu> I haven't seen zizer recently
[02:27] <ThePub> hmm, what's kde do different from gnome that doesn't allow alt-tab to see applications on the other screen?
[02:29] <_kuja_> ThePub, there's a setting for that somewhere
[02:31] <intelikey> kcontrol
[02:31] <ThePub> intelikey: where?  which desktop option, because I've turned them all on and nothing.
[02:32] <manchicken> Are there any packages that need a maintainer?
[02:32] <manchicken> I'm interested in helping, but I don't know where it's needed.
[02:33] <intelikey> !contribute
[02:33] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[02:34] <ThePub> KDE apparently treats a Xinerama desktop like it's a multi-head desktop and it's rather annoying.
[02:34] <intelikey> ThePub i don't recall which/where  sorry.
[02:36] <intelikey> it might have be accessable for right click the desktop and choose configure/preferances/whatever it's called.
[02:36] <intelikey> but iirc that's just one section of kcontrol anyway....
[02:37] <manchicken> I think I may try to package Kumula...
[02:38] <ThePub> KDE has too many options for it's own good.
[02:38] <manchicken> Such as?
[02:38] <intelikey> sometimes
[02:38] <intelikey> it does get convoluted at times
[02:38] <ThePub> It's like trying to configure a Microsoft server product.  You have tons of options buried in the graphical interface and poor documentation to back it up.
[02:39] <NewNovice> How do I make monitor power-off time I set permanent?  Presently works only for the current Xsession
[02:39] <manchicken> Yeah, there are some areas that need better documentation.
[02:40] <Xenol> oki ppl dont wanna be total naab but plz tell me where can i download flash and java? from adept?
[02:41] <intelikey> NewNovice check in  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/   ?
[02:41] <ThePub> Xenol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:41] <intelikey> !flash9
[02:41] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[02:41] <intelikey> !java
[02:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:42] <manchicken> Is the GPL'ed JRE packaged yet?
[02:42] <manchicken> That'd be nice.
[02:42] <ThePub> which gpl'd jre?
[02:42] <intelikey> i don't know.  i don't do java or flash or windows
[02:43] <ThePub> You must not browse the web much if you don't do flash ;)
[02:43] <manchicken> intelikey: The GPL'ed JRE is a beautiful thing for OpenOffice.org users.
[02:43] <intelikey> ThePub no by most standards i don't surf much
[02:43] <manchicken> But my wife uses flash9 on Kubuntu Edgy.
[02:44] <ThePub> Flash is a pretty good environment.  Adobe has done a good job of making something that has alot of potential.
[02:44] <manchicken> the "beta" version.  If there's actually a packaged version, that'd be cool.
[02:44] <NewNovice> intelikey, thanks.  I will search the 7 files there to see what may help.
[02:44] <manchicken> I suppose I should check out this program before trying to package it.
[02:45] <intelikey> NewNovice anything with screen or power or apm  in the names...
[02:45] <Xenol> ok i want clear explation when i must use apt -get and wget ?
[02:46] <intelikey> Xenol never.
[02:46] <manchicken> Eww... this thing is MySQL only.
[02:46] <intelikey> manchicken yuch
[02:46] <Xenol> intellikey any procs/cons?
[02:47] <NewNovice> intelikey, files are 20xorg-common_process-args, 30xorg-common_xresources, and so forth. Nothing mention dpms.
[02:47] <manchicken> Tell me about it.
[02:47] <intelikey> Xenol yeah cli commands can be used from a gui or a console    gui apps wont generally work if for what ever reason x is down.
[02:48] <Xenol> damn istart to love kubuntu :D WIN XP sux hard
[02:49] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[02:49] <Xenol> OMG i DLed codecs
[02:50] <Xenol> and still cant play avi files :/
[02:50] <Dr_willis> depends on the avi file
[02:50] <Dr_willis> a 'avi' file could be using any of several hundred codecs.
[02:50] <Xenol> aha so where can i get those several hundred codecs?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> !avi
[02:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:50] <NewNovice> intelikey, what does This file is sourced by Xsession(5), not executed. in those files mean?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> install the w32codec pack normally
[02:51] <intelikey> NewNovice means that you don't run or rerun them that xorg reads them when it starts
[02:51] <Xenol> dr_willis if i isntalled it with wget and apt get?
[02:52] <intelikey> with apt-get   or with  wget and dpkg
[02:52] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you normally set up the right reposiutories.. then use apt-get install whatever
[02:52] <Xenol> so it is correctly installed?
[02:52] <intelikey> you dont generally use wget and apt togather
[02:53] <intelikey> and for one of those M$ packages wasn't there also a script in it's install dir you had to run ???
[02:54] <intelikey> i don't remember but something like /usr/share/lib/w32dll/setup.sh     ???
[02:55] <ThePub_> nifty, changed something in kde that now makes my big desktop into a clone mode after logging in.
[02:55] <intelikey> i don't know what i'm talking about.   just saw it once.
[02:55] <NewNovice> Intelikey, I do not see anything which deals with power.  If I set the power-off time to 1 minute, the executed command is xset dpms 60 60 60.  xset man page says that xset changes are reset with a new xsession.  The question is, where are the default values stored?
[02:57] <intelikey> NewNovice you can add that line to something in /etc/X11/xinit/    or maybe even xsessionrc
[02:58] <NewNovice> intelikey, the problem is worse.  The monitor goes off in 1 minute, but turns back on in another minute.
[02:58] <Xenol> >D
[02:59] <Xenol> which other avi codecs should i isntall?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> I normally install the w32codec pack and thats about it.
[03:01] <intelikey> NewNovice so try   xset dpms 60 0 0
[03:02] <intelikey> or read the man page for xset  like i did   :)
[03:02] <NewNovice> intelikey, thanks. I will do that.  I read the man page, but I guess I had better read it again.
[03:03] <NewNovice> intelikey, I guess whoever wrote systemsettings did not understand it either.
[03:04] <intelikey> NewNovice 0 will disable the setting  so 60 0 0 will standby in one minute and should not change thereafter unless you awaken it.     i think what is happening is the off timer is waking the thing   but i could be wrong,    that's why i said try it.
[03:05] <Xenol> ppl wat is better?
[03:05] <Xenol> kaffeine or mplayer?
[03:05] <intelikey> vlc
[03:05] <Dr_willis> depends on what you like
[03:05] <NewNovice> I understand.
[03:05] <Dr_willis> try them all.. use what you perfer.
[03:05] <triki> totem is good also
[03:05] <Xenol> hmm i like powerdvd7 but it doesnt exist for lin
[03:05] <Xenol> :/
[03:06] <triki> try it with wine
[03:06] <CaBlGuY> !openGL
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <CaBlGuY> !glr
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <CaBlGuY> !Nvidia
[03:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> Xenol: kaffeine is a front end to xine/mplayer
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> in*
[03:08] <Dr_willis> i rarely play real 'dvds' :) i rip them to  the hard drive then encode/play them
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> I use vlc for transcoding but as a player its pretty lame
[03:09] <Xenol> linux_galore, i installed w32codecs and cant play avi do u know y?
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> Xenol: because win32 codecs have nothing to do with avi
[03:09] <alexicon> Xenol: get libxine-extracodecs
[03:09] <alexicon> and libmpeg3
[03:09] <intelikey> Linux_Galore lame....  what else you use for vidios in a console ?
[03:09] <Xenol> ah
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> Xenol: search for avi
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> Xenol: in adept
[03:10] <Xenol> alexicon i dont have that codec pack in adept where from i can get it plz?
[03:10] <Dr_willis> !avi
[03:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <Xenol> ty
[03:11] <BonBonTheJon> hi all
[03:11] <Linux_Galore> yeah, just follow the Ubuntu howto on restricted formats, I followed all the sections so I have everything working
[03:12] <intelikey> or one could follow the other link     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:12] <BonBonTheJon> any one know why konqueror at times takes a very long time to load folders or list the history for the address bar
[03:13] <Linux_Galore> Ive played a heap of avi files now in Kubuntu, no issues once I followed the howto
[03:13] <Linux_Galore> BonBonTheJon: turn some of the preview stuff off
[03:13] <intelikey> i have an issue with them....   they are not free.
[03:13] <Admiral_Chicago> BonBonTheJon, maybe your cache
[03:13] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, i know what that's like
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> Admiral_Chicago: what do you suggest
[03:14] <Linux_Galore> BonBonTheJon: its trying to preview everything
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> delete it
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm more of a Firefox guy myself
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, my problem is that I can't find a good script / program to convert mp3s to .ogg
[03:14] <Dr_willis> http://andre.ihost.za.net/2006/terrible-ubuntu-traits
[03:14] <Dr_willis> Ok..everyone go post a few comments. :)
[03:15] <Dr_willis> hes blaming Linux (and Ubuntu) for the Hardware makers lack of caring.
[03:15] <Linux_Galore> BonBonTheJon: also go into the Setting->Configure Konqueror  then look for the Performance Icon  make sure Preload is marked and 1 should do it
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, probably because he is ignorant
[03:15] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  yep.. i agree with you there.
[03:16] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago check what audacity uses   i think mpg123 or something like that   anyway it just plugs them through a cli app iirc.
[03:16] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: Ive given up chasing fools
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, there was a package soundconvertor but it didn't work for me
[03:16] <Dr_willis> ranting about the numlock on/off.....    sorry.. i cant recall the last time i EVER even needed the numlock. :)
[03:16] <Dr_willis> Linux_Galore,  but its amusing.
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, i use it all the time, makes me feel like a banker
[03:16] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago have you looked at sox ?
[03:17] <Xenol> ppl should i use konqueror or FF?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> scroll lock is only useful for a Unix/Linux OS, (aka only useful with a useful OS)
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  this is Linux - Lesson #1 - "USE what you like" try them out...
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, it's your preference really, I love Firefox, but other people swear on Konqueror
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, no but i'll do a search for it
[03:18] <betelgeuze> How would I install Kubuntu manually? Should I cp teh whoel cd or is there a nice script that I could run. The graphical installation freezes while starting the partition manager.
[03:18] <Dr_willis> I tend to use Firefox - because i have all these extensions for it i Like.
[03:18] <intelikey> and there is an app "numlock"   that will turn the numlock on for you.....
[03:18] <Xenol> Admiral_Chicago so better to have both installed :P
[03:18] <Dr_willis> Opera  is nice also.
[03:18] <Xenol> Admiral_Chicago, i also like FF konqueror and opera, sometimes flock but i canno which one to use primary
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, ya
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> Opera always has display stutter for me
[03:18] <triki> seamonkey
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, Flock is based on Gecko -- the FX engine
[03:18] <Xenol> it is for MAC
[03:19] <Xenol> Admiral_Chicago, i know but it is made for blogging i think
[03:19] <Dr_willis> Geico? the insurance agengy?
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, really social networking, like delicoious, whatever that website is, i think Flickr as well
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, ping
[03:20] <intelikey> gecko the advertizor for the insurance agency ?
[03:20] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: pong
[03:20] <Xenol> k ppl now tell me it si better i upgrade from 6.06.1 to 6.10?
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, have we ever argued before?
[03:20] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: not yet, iirc
[03:20] <Jucato> why?
[03:20] <intelikey> Xenol depends on what you want.
[03:20] <Xenol> 6.06.1 is more stable right?
[03:20] <intelikey> !lts | Xenol
[03:20] <ubotu> Xenol: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i didn't think so either, i had a dream that I got into a fight with someone I knew on IRC, i thought it was you
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> so i woke up angry at IRC :|
[03:21] <Jucato> lol!
[03:21] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  dreaming about irc? thats........... well... scary
[03:21] <Jucato> why in the world would you think that it was me? :P
[03:21] <Jucato> Dr_willis: don't even ask what I dream about :D
[03:21] <intelikey> Xenol 6.6 is LTS   6.10 is not.
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know, are you a balding white man with a gut?
[03:21] <Xenol> !libxine-extracodecs
[03:21] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[03:21] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  we know all about you and your BlueCheese Salad Dressing Fetish.
[03:22] <Jucato> lol
[03:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:22] <Xenol> !where to get libxine-extracodecs
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where to get libxine-extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, I know, i have issues, i stayed on IRC until I was dead tired last night
[03:22] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: balding, no. white, no. man, yes. gut, sort of. lol
[03:22] <Xenol> !:/
[03:22] <intelikey>  multiverse
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> hey, there was a honey in my dream as well (not Jucato)
[03:23] <intelikey> Xenol read the answer ubotu posted when you asked about  <Xenol> !libxine-extracodecs
[03:23] <intelikey> "In component multiverse "
[03:23] <Xenol> but it doesnt give me adress :(
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !multiverse
[03:23] <intelikey> yes it does.
[03:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:23] <intelikey> "In component multiverse "
[03:24] <intelikey> as in you enable multiverse repo and apt-get it
[03:24] <intelikey> or go to the mirror and daviaget to multiverse and dl it if you like.
[03:24] <intelikey> navigate even
[03:24] <triki> anyone know how to remove libc6 broken package?
[03:25] <intelikey> lol  not likely
[03:25] <HymnToLife> libc6 broken package, that definitely doesn't sound good...
[03:26] <intelikey> you can try  "sudo dpkg -P --force-all libc6 "    but it's about like formating the drive.
[03:27] <intelikey> roughly equal to  sudo rm -rf /
[03:27] <intelikey> both leave a few things but nothing useful
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, how can i use sox?
[03:27] <intelikey> man sox
[03:28] <ravermeister> somebody here
[03:28] <intelikey> sox infile1 [ infile2 ... ]  outfile
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ravermeister, 297 ppl
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> oh wow this is a pretty powerful package
[03:30] <ravermeister> does somebody knows a good howto how to configure apache and tomcat, and what i have to do if i want to compile java servlets?
[03:30] <Dr_willis> !lamp
[03:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:30] <Dr_willis> perhaps thats a good start?
[03:31] <Xenol> plz i should make multiuniverse  all my repositories?
[03:31] <junky> what i have to do to play open arena plz?
[03:31] <intelikey> triki why not   sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6[tab-key]
[03:31] <intelikey> and see if you can finish installing it.
[03:31] <ravermeister> yeah i know lampp, but i prefer to use my existing apache2 and php postgres etcv
[03:32] <Xenol> !multiuniverse
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiuniverse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <ravermeister> i dont want to configure anything again
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, paste you /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:32] <Dr_willis> junky,  install it... whatever it is.. :P run it.... whatever it is...
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | Xenol
[03:32] <ubotu> Xenol: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:32] <LjL> !multiverse | Xenol
[03:32] <ubotu> Xenol: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:32] <intelikey> triki you did an upgrade and it "went off" on you, did it ?
[03:33] <junky> plz
[03:33] <junky> what i have to do to play open arena?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> junky,  and what IS 'open arena' dont assume we all know about EVERY possuible program that exists
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !openarena
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openarena - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <intelikey> and !arena wont help either
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !porn
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:35] <Xenol> admiral_chicago http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36183/
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, i believe the correct name is pr0n
[03:35] <intelikey> porn is that a contraction of pop corn ?
[03:35] <intelikey> :)
[03:35] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  im 'old-skool'
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, in the K mene, run command "kdesu kate /etc/apt/souces.list"
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> no quotes
[03:36] <junky> plzzzzz
[03:36] <intelikey> junky plzzzz  and hurry or we wont pay you....
[03:36] <ravermeister> nobody a good howto??
[03:36] <Xenol> admiral_chicago and?
[03:36] <ravermeister> and how do i edit my normal jdk so that i can compile servlets??
[03:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, give me a sec
[03:37] <ubuntu_> hi
[03:37] <ubuntu_> spricht hier jmd deutsch ?
[03:37] <ravermeister> jop
[03:37] <ravermeister> ;)
[03:37] <intelikey> !de
[03:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:37] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_ you may want to change your nick use /nick BillGates__1
[03:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:38] <ravermeister> vll kannst du mir ja helfen
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36184/
[03:38] <ravermeister> weist du was ich machen muss um jdk so zu ndern das ich servlets compilieren kann?
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> copy and paste the text in the box,
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> save the file
[03:38] <Xenol> admiral_chicago wat to do with that? replace ?
[03:38] <intelikey> !en
[03:38] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> then in konsole, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, yes overwrite everything
[03:39] <geier> habe ubunut runtergeladen gebrannt rein ins cdrom und nu bin icch hier im chat
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !dr
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> err what's the command
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !gr
[03:39] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[03:39] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: you said you did testing with live cd's in vmware?
[03:39] <geier> habe zum 1. mal ubuntu wollte das einfach mal testen
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !dz
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <geier> sry. kubuntu habe ich
[03:40] <LjL> !de
[03:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:40] <geier> folgendes ..... im start men sind wenig programme ist das normal oder kommen die erst bei ner hd install ?
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> LjL, thanks!
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> i couldn't remember it
[03:40] <intelikey> could have scrolled up
[03:41] <ravermeister> ja standard mig is bei ubuntu ned so viel drauf
[03:41] <junky> someone can say me please what i have to do, to play open arena
[03:41] <ravermeister> kannst aber alles bequem per sudo apt-get install paketname installieren
[03:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, actually use this one, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36186/
[03:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ravermeister, what is open arena+?
[03:42] <intelikey> junky you were asked what the hell "open arena"  is.   did you ever answer that ?
[03:42] <ravermeister> i don't know i havent heard from it
[03:42] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on a suc
[03:43] <ravermeister> please i need help
[03:43] <ravermeister> my situation is the following
[03:43] <Xenol> admiral_chocago i cant overwrite it what should i do?
[03:43] <ravermeister> i have installed apache with php fr om the source
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache search open arena : apt-cache search openarena
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> nothing came back
[03:43] <ravermeister> i have editied the documentRoot
[03:43] <ravermeister> to a FAT partition,
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, did you open it as kdesu kate?
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> you're not sudo
[03:44] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago yeah i lookd when he first mantioned it.
[03:44] <ravermeister> and know i wanted to be able to provide jsp files and servlets
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> :\
[03:44] <ravermeister> how do i configure apache/ tomcat??
[03:44] <Xenol> admiral_chigaco should i back up original file?
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> OpenArena is an open-source content package for Quake III Arena licensed under the GPL, effectively creating a free stand-alone game
[03:44] <ravermeister> and what do i have to do with my jdk sothat it can compile servlets
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, yes
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> !lamp | ravermeister
[03:45] <ubotu> ravermeister: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:45] <intelikey> ravermeister if no one in here knows try asking in ##linux  some times you get good networking help in there.   but be patient and don't get bent out of shape if they dog mouth you...
[03:45] <ravermeister> thx
[03:46] <ravermeister> i dont want to use lampp cause the apache from the repos works fine
[03:46] <ravermeister> and i dont want to configure that again
[03:46] <ravermeister> and i heard lampp isn't safe for normal using
[03:46] <triki> why not ?
[03:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, what's your status?
[03:47] <intelikey> lamp=linux apache mysql php     not a package or program, but an acronym from several common linux distro provided apps.
[03:48] <triki> yes
[03:48] <triki> why is it not safe ?
[03:48] <triki> uses apache2
[03:48] <triki> php5
[03:48] <triki> mysql new version
[03:49] <ravermeister> yeah i dont know i have heared it, but by the way apache runs fine
[03:49] <ravermeister> and it took a long time to configure everything
[03:49] <triki> i'm using it for a torrent tracker, works fine
[03:49] <ravermeister> and 2 apache server are silly isnt it
[03:49] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i just want ot know which repositories i have to change to multiuniverse? those first universe?
[03:49] <triki> config is different
[03:49] <intelikey> ravermeister then that's one part of "lamp" you already have.   i'll go out on a limb and assume that you have the "linux" portion covered as well  :)
[03:50] <Dr_willis> hmm.. in the apt.sources the lines that have 'universe' you just add 'multiverse' after the universe word dont ya?
[03:50] <triki> ya
[03:50] <Xenol> yeah but i should do that for all repositories?
 i dont have lampp installed
[03:50] <triki> yes
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, i changed them for you in the new file, all you have to do is copy and paste over your old ones
[03:51] <ravermeister> i installed apache2 via apt-get install
[03:51] <ravermeister> and php the same
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> everything is the same but four lines
[03:51] <Xenol> admiral_chocago sry man post it again, i am confused and asleep by now do this and i go bed :P
[03:51] <intelikey> Dr_willis hehhe yeah.      or actually i just do     sed 's/main.*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' sources.list     :)
[03:51] <intelikey> but that's just me.
[03:52] <ravermeister> okay but in lampp is still no tomcat or something which can handle servlet/jsp files or ?
[03:53] <Xenol> admiral_chicago, sry man post it again, i am confused and asleep by now do this and i go bed :P
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36186/
[03:53] <vex> heyy
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> just open kate in run command, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <intelikey> ravermeister php5 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)   ???    no?
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> copy and paste the stuff in the text box, (not the label with numbers) over everything in that file
[03:54] <intelikey> oh.... tomcat5 - Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support  <--- that.
[03:55] <intelikey> !tomcat5
[03:55] <ubuntu_> Kubuntu completely freezes when installing, on step 5, while loading the partition manager. Is there an alternative way to install?
[03:55] <ubotu> tomcat5: Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.30-11 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 336 kB
[03:55] <Xenol> admiral_chocago i am afraid i dont have multiuniverse stuff there :/
[03:55] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i am afraid i dont have multiuniverse stuff there :/
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, you need "multiverse"
[03:56] <intelikey> ubuntu_ yes the alternate CD  has text based install
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> that's why you don't have any multiuniverse there
[03:56] <ravermeister> okay i have installed tomcar yet
[03:56] <ravermeister> but i dont know how to configure
 !multiuniverse <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiuniverse
[03:56] <Xenol> admiral_chicago so i need to add everywhere where is universe add multiuniverse?
[03:56] <ravermeister> i can just see the jsp-examples programmes i dont know how to set the docRoot for tomcat
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, no
[03:57] <ubuntu_> intelikey: Can I get those scripts and use them with the standard CD?
[03:57] <intelikey> i dont either i'd have to    "man tomcar"  and see what it said  :)
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> multiuniverse does not exist
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> you'd be adding gibberish
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> You want to have a line "universe" and in a seperate line "multiverse"
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> like I have in the paste bin I gave you
[03:57] <ravermeister> okay damn, its not easy and do you know
[03:57] <ravermeister> what i have to do
[03:57] <intelikey> ubuntu_ it could probably be done.    yes.   but don't ask me where to look for them.
[03:57] <triki> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[03:57] <ravermeister> i have downloaded the jdk
[03:58] <ravermeister> but normally it cant compile servlets
[03:58] <ubuntu_> intelikey: ok. thanks for the tip
[03:58] <ravermeister> what must i do
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> triki, i use this line deb-src http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> for his country, etc
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> plus security updates etc
[03:59] <intelikey> src ?
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> source
[03:59] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i overwrote it but in adept i still dont see multiuniverse
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, listen carefully
[04:00] <junky> someone can say me who i can play action cube plz
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Multi-UNIVERSE does not exist
[04:00] <junky> it display an error while i run actioncube.sh
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> multi-VERSE exist, UNIVERSE exists
[04:00] <junky> and 3 steps
[04:00] <Xenol> OMG
[04:00] <Xenol> true i am blind
[04:00] <junky> i do the steps and it do the same when i try to run
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, go to a konsole and type "sudo apt-get update"
[04:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, wait you used my paste?
[04:01] <Admiral_Chicago> the sources I pasted to you?
[04:01] <Xenol> yup
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> in a konsole sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:02] <junky> plz
[04:02] <junky> no one can help me plx?
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> !patient | junky
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> !patience | junky
[04:03] <ubotu> junky: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:04] <junky> oks sry
[04:05] <Admiral_Chicago> junky, it is a saturday night for some of us, we aren't all able to help
[04:05] <Admiral_Chicago> there is great help with the documentation, maybe check out help.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <Admiral_Chicago> or the forums
[04:05] <junky> oks no problem thx
[04:06] <triki> what's the error ?
[04:08] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i get this Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, close adept
[04:08] <triki> ;
[04:08] <Xenol> and  do it now?
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> then run the command again
[04:08] <Admiral_Chicago> hit up on the keyboard
[04:09] <dbglt> what's the easiest way to update to feisty from edgy?
[04:09] <Xenol> admiral_chicago
[04:09] <Xenol> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:09] <Xenol> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:09] <Xenol> is only available from another source
[04:09] <Xenol> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[04:10] <Xenol> ups :/
[04:10] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[04:10] <triki> dbglt: adept
[04:11] <dbglt> triki: ?
[04:11] <triki> package manager
[04:11] <dbglt> triki: since when did it handle updates?
[04:11] <Admiral_Chicago> then try again
[04:11] <Xenol> admiral_chicago got newest version i only need libxine codecs
[04:11] <dbglt> triki: or are you just telling me to use it to edit my sources.list?
[04:11] <Xenol> but no repository :/
[04:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, hmm let me try somethingc
[04:12] <Xenol> ok
[04:12] <triki> it uses the source.list
[04:12] <dbglt> triki: is there an "update" button, or do I just edit my sources.list via a text editor in adept?
[04:13] <triki> do you not have the "Full Upgrade" button ?
[04:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, try this one
[04:13] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36193/
[04:14] <dbglt> triki: errm
[04:14] <Admiral_Chicago> or if that doesn't work, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36194/
[04:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i gotta run
[04:14] <dbglt> triki: that changes it to feisty? :\
[04:14] <dbglt> triki: are you... sure?
[04:14] <triki> feisty is just updated packages
[04:14] <Admiral_Chicago> Xenol, good luck, feel free to PM me, i'll get around to it, (eventually)
[04:15] <dbglt> triki: which are enabled by default? :\
[04:15] <dbglt> triki: so it's the same as doing apt-get updgrade, then?
[04:15] <triki> yes adept is a gui front-end for apt-get
[04:16] <dbglt> yes I know that
[04:16] <dbglt> but
[04:16] <dbglt> for example, dapper -> edgy
[04:16] <dbglt> had to change source repositories
[04:16] <dbglt> seems odd that I don't need to do that now, no?
[04:16] <triki> yes
[04:16] <dbglt> with a new release
[04:16] <triki> are you using sources for feisty ?
[04:16] <Xenol> admiral_chicago i am going to bed will use my original for now and do it tommorrow
[04:17] <Xenol> GN ALL and thx for help
[04:17] <DeadS0ul> is feisty stable?
[04:17] <jontec> quick... what's the command to start apache?
[04:17] <triki> apachectl start
[04:17] <dbglt> triki:  no... that's why I asked how to update to it
[04:17] <jontec> gracias
[04:17] <triki> you need to get the apt sources for feisty
[04:17] <dbglt> upgrade, whatever
[04:18] <dbglt> triki: thank you...
[04:18] <dbglt> s/edgy/feisty
[04:18] <dbglt> will that suffice?
[04:18] <hex_st0rm> !gcc
[04:18] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:19] <triki> you need to get the apt sources for feistyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305870
[04:20] <triki> oops
[04:20] <triki> here is a forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305870
[04:20] <dbglt> yes that's fine
[04:20] <dbglt> I assumed I had to do that
[04:20] <dbglt> but from what you said, figured that adept had been made to handle it
[04:20] <dbglt> (obviously not :)
[04:20] <galathalion> how do i play dvd in vlc?
[04:21] <hex_st0rm> !pastebin
[04:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:22] <binary2k2> galathalion: in the file menu, choose open disk
[04:22] <hex_st0rm> im having trouble installing programs
[04:23] <hex_st0rm> everytime i try to isntall them i get this...
[04:23] <hex_st0rm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36195/
[04:23] <hex_st0rm> not sure what could be causing this problem
[04:23] <hex_st0rm> any help will be greatly appreciated
[04:24] <galathalion> binary2k2: its not a disc. its a file on my computer
[04:24] <triki> did you try this dpkg --configure -a
[04:24] <hex_st0rm> yes, look at that pastebin triki
[04:24] <binary2k2> galathalion: yeah, it still works tho, just change the device to the file name
[04:25] <galathalion> binary2k2: how do i do taht?
[04:26] <galathalion> binary2k2: no my abd
[04:26] <binary2k2> galathalion: when you choose "open disk", change "Device name" to the location of the file
[04:26] <galathalion> binary2k2: it doesnt say device name anywhere
[04:27] <spawn57> w00t
[04:27] <hex_st0rm> gah, kubuntu is starting to piss me off. always needing tending to
[04:27] <binary2k2> galathalion: what do you see when you choose "open disk" ?
[04:27] <galathalion> binary2k2: media resource locator at the top of the window
[04:28] <binary2k2> galathalion: hmm, that different to what I have, but still, just change that to the location of the file
[04:29] <galathalion> binary2k2: i did.. get sound but no video
[04:29] <binary2k2> galathalion: can you play it in mplayer?
[04:30] <galathalion> binary2k2: still sound but no image
[04:32] <binary2k2> galathalion: do you have the libdvdread3 and the libdvdcss2 packages?
[04:32] <scott__> how do I find an encoder for a dvd player?
[04:33] <hex_st0rm> scott__:check adept man
[04:34] <binary2k2> scott__: for authoring there is kmediafactory (as well as others)
[04:34] <scott__> ty
[04:35] <Red_Tear> hi ppl
[04:35] <binary2k2> galathalion: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9 ?
[04:35] <galathalion> binary2k2: not libdvdcss2
[04:35] <galathalion> binary2k2: i couldnt find it eihter
[04:35] <binary2k2> galathalion: that link will tell you how ti install it
[04:36] <galathalion> binary2k2: ok thanks. U know how to play .wmv3 in vlc?
[04:37] <binary2k2> galathalion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats will tell you how to play restricted formats, including wmv3
[04:37] <binary2k2> it's the w32codecs part you'll want fot that
[04:39] <galathalion> binary2k2: ok thank you
[04:39] <binary2k2> galathalion: your welcome
[04:41] <hex_st0rm> !pastebin
[04:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <hex_st0rm> !adept
[04:41] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:42] <hex_st0rm> i do believe something is wrong with my installation process
[04:42] <hex_st0rm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36196/
[04:42] <hex_st0rm> any ideas anyone?
[04:44] <intelikey> hex sudo apt-get install -f        pastebin the errors if any
[04:45] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: try running "sudo touch /var/run/clamav" then "sudo dpkg --configure -a" after
[04:46] <BluesKaj> the usr/lib/firefox/plugin file already holds a libflashplayer.so file do I overwrite it with the flash9 file , which sipposedly is newer but the dialog says the replacement file older than the existing one ....doesn't make sense if it's supposedly updating frpm flash7 to flash 9
[04:46] <hex_st0rm> intelikey, same errors as before
[04:46] <hex_st0rm> binary, ill pastebin
[04:46] <hex_st0rm> i got a ton
[04:47] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: just go ahead and overwrite it
[04:48] <hex_st0rm> wha...i did what you said a second ago binary, and it gave a ton of errors, then i did it again and it did nothing
[04:49] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: pastebin the errors for me
[04:49] <intelikey> hex_st0rm now try the   sudo apt-get install -f
[04:49] <intelikey> if it's fixed that should return with nothing.
[04:49] <hex_st0rm> binary, it filled up terminal and i couldnt find where i inputted the sudo touch.....so i exited and tried agin
[04:49] <hex_st0rm> and got nothing
[04:50] <binary2k2> intelikey: it's not a dependency issue, so i can't see that helping
[04:50] <intelikey> binary2k2 that's nice.
[04:50] <hex_st0rm> ran what you said inteli, gono errors
[04:50] <hex_st0rm> got  no*
[04:51] <intelikey> binary2k2 you never noticed that it also tries to finish setting up any broke packages....
[04:51] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: when you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" if you get no errors, then everything is fine
[04:51] <intelikey> hex_st0rm then it looks like all is well now.
[04:51] <hex_st0rm> k thanks a lot guys
[04:52] <binary2k2> intelikey: that's because it runs dpkg --configure -a :p
[04:52] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: glad it's fixed
[04:54] <intelikey> binary2k2 if it does.  then why "<binary2k2> intelikey: it's not a dependency issue, so i can't see that helping"   not that it matters.....
[04:54] <hex_st0rm> as am i, what was with the display errors? i had bee having those for a while
[04:54] <hex_st0rm> been*
[04:55] <intelikey>  055. X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:55] <intelikey>  056.   Major opcode:  145
[04:55] <binary2k2> intelikey: apt-get -f install tries to fix dependences, then just runs dpkg --configure -a
[04:55] <intelikey> those ^ ?
[04:56] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, it won't give root access nor will it permit overwriting  :(
[04:56] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if you have any enteys for wacom, if you do, that that's the problem
[04:56] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: how are you installing it?
[04:56] <hex_st0rm> yes inteli............binary, enteys?
[04:57] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, trying to move the file into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[04:57] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: from the adobe download?
[04:57] <BluesKaj> libflashplayer.so
[04:58] <glimmung> hi all, I have recently upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10, and I love it, but my previously recognized and usable printer under 6.06 doesnt do anything now under 6.10, any help or ideas?
[04:58] <DettoAltrimenti> hey
[04:58] <DettoAltrimenti> what is feisty?
[04:58] <BluesKaj> !feisty
[04:58] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: just do "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/"
[04:59] <DettoAltrimenti> cool
[04:59] <glimmung> did they break printer support in edgy?
[04:59] <DettoAltrimenti> is 6.06 the most current stable version right now?
[04:59] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: no, 6.10 Edgy Eft
[04:59] <unix_infidel> 6.06 is the only current LTS
[05:00] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: but 6.06 is the long term support version (LTS)
[05:01] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, cp: cannot stat `libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory
[05:01] <intelikey> !printer | glimmung
[05:01] <ubotu> glimmung: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:01] <DettoAltrimenti> yeah I am just about to partition my hd and install linux for the first time!
[05:01] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: are you installing from the adobe download, or from a deb package?
[05:02] <musya> where can i find radio stations?
[05:02] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: that's great, if you need any help just ask :D
[05:02] <musya> like their urls?
[05:02] <BluesKaj> it's already been untarred from the download
[05:02] <intelikey> musya google maybe ?
[05:03] <musya> intelikey: why would i be asking here if i havent already tryed it?
[05:03] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: cd in to the directory that got untared, and the run that command
[05:03] <glimmung> musya: i recommend somafm
[05:03] <intelikey> musya lazy maybe ?
[05:03] <musya> intelikey: not me
[05:04] <binary2k2> musya: what exactly do you mean?
[05:04] <musya> for rythembox
[05:05] <binary2k2> musya: do you mean from the live seream that opens from a website, the URL for that?
[05:05] <musya> yea
[05:05] <musya> i would suppose so, its the first time i am doing this i couldnt find anything that worked on google
[05:06] <binary2k2> musya: (maybe a silly question but) do you use firefox?
[05:06] <musya> yea
[05:06] <glimmung> well i just dont understand why my printer worked perfectly under 6.06 but now does nothing under 6.10
[05:06] <glimmung> i did the exact same process to set it up as under 6.06
[05:07] <manchicken> Are there any projects that need part-time help?
[05:07] <manchicken> I'm not looking for anything too complicated, just something to keep me occupied.
[05:08] <intelikey> glimmung you aren't likely to get a lot of help on hardware perifreals around here.    if the links to  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers &  http://linuxprinting.org   don't help you.....
[05:08] <hex_st0rm> !java
[05:08] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:08] <binary2k2> musya: if you got to Tools -> Page Info (or Ctrl-I), then go to the MEdia tab and look for Embed in the Type colom you'll get a url
[05:09] <hex_st0rm> curse java doesnt wanna work
[05:09] <binary2k2> hex_st0rm: what do you mean?
[05:10] <glimmung> well that was just wierd, all I had to do was change the usb port it was connected to and now it works
[05:10] <binary2k2> glimmung: on cups (the printing system) upgrade, sometimes it stops printers working, have you tried just removing the printer and adding it again (in system settings)
[05:10] <intelikey> glimmung hehhe actually unplug/replug most likely...
[05:10] <DettoAltrimenti> I'm using partitionmagic to make a partition to put kubuntu onto. Is it alright if this partition crosses the 1024 cylinder boundary?
[05:10] <binary2k2> glimmung: worked for me before
[05:10] <musya> binary2k2: all there is, is just icon, background, input, and image
[05:11] <musya> im on somafm.com
[05:12] <binary2k2> musya: what's the link to the station you want to listen to, that site has a few
[05:13] <musya> ah, ok i got it figured out, thanks though
[05:13] <musya> i got to get going.
[05:13] <musya> Thank You for all of your help
[05:13] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: yes, it's just OLD operating systems that don't like that
[05:13] <binary2k2> musya: your welcome :D
[05:13] <DettoAltrimenti> ah so I should keep winxp on the 'front' of the drive and put kubuntu on the 'back,' right
[05:14] <intelikey> yeah xp may cry if it's not hda1
[05:14] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: yes, that's right, windows need to be in the 'front' of the drive, kubuntu don't care :p
[05:15] <intelikey> xp is like that spoiled brat that you don't like to claim is your kid....
[05:15] <hex_st0rm> binary: java wont run in konq, cant use java shels or play java games or anything
[05:15] <DettoAltrimenti> what kind of cluster size and partition type should I pick? also, will the install disk do the whole 'swap' partition thing for me?
[05:15] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: is it the 'Live' Desktop CD?
[05:15] <DettoAltrimenti> yes
[05:15] <intelikey> DettoAltrimenti yes and it will do the whole partition thing tooo
[05:16] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: then yes, it will do the whole swap thing for you
[05:16] <intelikey> whether you want it too or not...
[05:16] <BluesKaj> nope binary2k2 , it won't allow me to copy the file to either the mozilla or firefox usr/lib plugin file
[05:16] <DettoAltrimenti> and linux ext3 partition type?
[05:16] <binary2k2> DettoAltrimenti: the smallest you want to make the linux partition is 10GB
[05:17] <intelikey> 10g  hah
[05:17] <scorp007> what's the package for opengl manpages, again?
[05:17] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: what error are you getting?
[05:17] <intelikey> it'll install in 3g no problemo
[05:17] <BluesKaj> i try using  sudo or kdesu in the run command dialog but it just refuses to open and the the terminal won't do anything either
[05:17] <binary2k2> intelikey: that's the minimum that the ubuntu wiki states
[05:17] <BluesKaj>  permission denied
[05:18] <intelikey> if you use a seprate home partition you probably don't want to waste space in /
[05:18] <intelikey> i'd say 3g /  1g swap and what ever you can spare for /home
[05:18] <binary2k2> intelikey: true, but the live installer normaly just makes / and swap
[05:19] <intelikey> no it has manual partitioning also
[05:19] <intelikey> it's convoluted but it's there.
[05:19] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: what if you try "sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libflashplayer.so" first?
[05:20] <binary2k2> intelikey: I know, that's why i said 'notmaly'. besides I always use the text installer :p
[05:21] <intelikey> last time i installed i used the live CD with no X    i should write a paper on that...      44 reasons not to try this...
[05:21] <binary2k2> :p
[05:21] <BluesKaj> heh binary2k2 ..no such file or directory ...wth ?
[05:22] <intelikey> ls -d /usr/lib/firefox/plugin
[05:22] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: its /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ (notice the S on the end)
[05:22] <intelikey> yeah...
[05:22] <intelikey> {{{ <binary2k2> BluesKaj: what if you try "sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libflashplayer.so" first? }}}
[05:23] <intelikey> :)
[05:23] <binary2k2> I just copy and paste :p
[05:23] <BluesKaj> yeah binary2k2 ...i added the s
[05:23] <scorp007> what's the package for opengl manpages, again?
[05:24] <BluesKaj> lemme check
[05:24] <root> hello
[05:24] <root> i'm the fucker root
[05:25] <BluesKaj> ok binary2k2 , the old file is gone
[05:25] <intelikey> !language
[05:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <intelikey> scorp007 apt-cache search opengl | grep doc
[05:26] <intelikey> scorp007 apt-cache search opengl | grep -ie doc
[05:26] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: now do (from the untared directory) "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/libflashplayer.so"
[05:26] <BluesKaj> pk binary2k2 , it's been added to the file ...success
[05:26] <BluesKaj> !
[05:26] <BluesKaj> I mean ok
[05:26] <scorp007> intelikey: hmmm, mesa-common-dev?
[05:26] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: to confirm you have it, in firefox go to "about:plugins" and you should see it
[05:27] <binary2k2> scorp007: that's the development files, not documentation
[05:27] <scorp007> hmm
[05:27] <scorp007> what is it then?
[05:28] <Rug> Howdy all.
[05:28] <binary2k2> scorp007: gle-doc ?
[05:28] <scorp007> gle-doc - OpenGL tubing and extrusion library documentation
[05:28] <Rug> I've just upgraded to kde 3.5.5 and now my auto-mounter locks up at the "What is your preferred action?" menu
[05:29] <intelikey> binary2k2 not acording to the info... mesa-common-dev - Developer documentation for Mesa
[05:29] <scorp007> intelikey: i have it installed. Doesnt seem to have manpages...
[05:30] <binary2k2> intelikey: well then I just don't know
[05:30] <intelikey> scorp007 all i know is how to search,  i don't have opengl
[05:30] <scorp007> crap....
[05:30] <scorp007> Suse has em...
[05:30] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, works on youtube...must be ok ...where is about plugins ?
[05:31] <intelikey> !opengl
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: in the address bar type "about:plugins"
[05:31] <intelikey> !openglx
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openglx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <verbose> i have a marvell gig-e network card using sky2 module(which is loaded) it detects network link, but can't send/receive network traffic
[05:32] <intelikey> freeglut3 - OpenGL Utility Toolkit
[05:32] <verbose> i know the card is good, it was just working with debian, but i formatted the machine and installed kubuntu
[05:32] <verbose> since then it hasn't worked
[05:32] <binary2k2> intelikey: all the documenst in mesa-common-dev are in /usr/share/doc/mesa-common-dev/
[05:32] <verbose> i've tried manually config'ing net info, doesn't work, dhcp doesn't work
[05:32] <verbose> any suggestions?
[05:33] <binary2k2> verbose: is it eth0?
[05:33] <verbose> binary2k2: yes
[05:34] <intelikey> gle-doc - OpenGL tubing and extrusion library documentation
[05:34] <Rug> Any suggestions/advice?
[05:34] <binary2k2> verbose: have you tried "sudo dhclient eth0" ?
[05:34] <verbose> binary2k2: yes
[05:35] <binary2k2> verbose: what do you get with "ifconfig eth0" ?
[05:35] <verbose> and `sudo ifdown eth0 ` `sudo ifup eth0`
[05:35] <intelikey> scorp007 that's all i see that even looks promicing.
[05:35] <verbose> lemme paste it on pastebin
[05:35] <binary2k2> ok
[05:37] <marco> Hello. Is there a difference in performance between gnome and kde?
[05:37] <intelikey> have a 'brother MFD'  the printer will print the faxer will fax,  but the scanner wont scan.     any somebody think they know an answer ?
[05:37] <binary2k2> marco: no, not realy
[05:37] <Rug> marco: yes, but both depend on how much eye-candy you have turned on.
[05:37] <verbose> hmm, it's receiving, just not sending
[05:38] <intelikey> marco  yes.   kde is really really slow  and gnome is lightening fast   use gnome.
[05:38] <xsacha> kde is fast for me :)
[05:38] <scorp007> i guess ubuntu doesn't have manpages then...
[05:38] <xsacha> and i find gnome sluggish :S
[05:39] <verbose> binary2k2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/iZojMq52.html
[05:39] <Rug> marco: fluxbox, icewm, and xfce are all great for old/slow systems
[05:39] <intelikey> xsacha ssssh   you don't want to spend three days helping him make his faster do you...
[05:39] <binary2k2> intelikey: do you have the sane and libsane packages? I don't use a scanner so I dont know
[05:39] <intelikey> binary2k2 yes  and xsane
[05:39] <xsacha> i didnt make mine faster :P just using what came out of cd :P but it does eat up a lot of RAM
[05:39] <marco> tanks. I like the visual ok kde . I think I'll stick with it
[05:40] <intelikey> all xsane will do is say no device found   and  sane-find-scanner   finds it no problem.
[05:40] <intelikey> xsacha hmmm odd.   i can start kde here and it's only 30m ram used.
[05:41] <xsacha> oh it's probably just aiglx
[05:41] <intelikey> yeah
[05:41] <xsacha> 250MB ram usage from Xorg
[05:41] <binary2k2> verbose: what output do you get with dhclient, any errors?
[05:41] <intelikey> lol
[05:41] <intelikey> that's nuts.....
[05:41] <verbose> just no offers received
[05:42] <verbose> but i tested the dhcpd on another machine...it's working
[05:42] <xsacha> intelikey: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/815/cpusc1.png
[05:42] <verbose> also, when i statically assign an address i can't talk to anything on the lan
[05:42] <verbose> or anywhere else for that matter
[05:42] <verbose> i can ping localhost so it's not a problem with the network stack
[05:42] <xsacha> it gets up to 250MB some times..
[05:43] <verbose> i'm rebooting
[05:43] <binary2k2> verbose: I don't know then, you can try with the driver found with google http://tinyurl.com/u4fta
[05:43] <xsacha> i find it very hard to get above 10% cpu
[05:44] <verbose> binary2k2: that's so weird though cause on debian i was running 2.6.17 as well
[05:44] <verbose> so it should be the same driver
[05:44] <verbose> barring patches that differ in ubuntu/debian
[05:44] <verbose> i don't know if there are any for this nic or not
[05:45] <verbose> so much for things 'just working'
[05:45] <xsacha> intelikey: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/534/animationmn2.png :P
[05:45] <Agent_bob> xsacha drop that url on me again.
[05:45] <xsacha> Agent_bob: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/815/cpusc1.png
[05:45] <binary2k2> verbose: well, if debain work, just go with debian
[05:46] <Agent_bob> hmmm not loading for some reason.
[05:47] <intelikey> i dropped the url s both of them  in knoq  but niether seem to be loading.
[05:47] <Agent_bob> oh wait yes it si.   just slow.
[05:47] <xsacha> :O imageshack has been slow since yesterday
[05:47] <Agent_bob> dialup.
[05:48] <Agent_bob> hehhhe    1623 root      15   0 37304 7852 3256 S  8.7  3.1   0:21.42 Xorg
[05:49] <binary2k2>  6741 root      15   0  399m 136m 8828 S  1.7  9.0  50:22.98 Xorg
[05:49] <Agent_bob> mine is still lower
[05:49] <Agent_bob> and this cpu is 350mhz
[05:50] <xsacha> try running aiglx + beryl
[05:50] <Agent_bob> and yes that's kde
[05:50] <xsacha> aiglx makes xorg memory shoot up a lot
[05:50] <Agent_bob> no sir.
[05:50] <binary2k2> beryl 0.1.3 with aiglx on intel 845G intergrated graphics
[05:50] <xsacha> those teo screenshots above were with beryl
[05:50] <xsacha> 0.3% cpu usage :) 99.7% idle
[05:50] <binary2k2> my xorg mem before beryl was 53m
[05:51] <intelikey> i started to install nvidia drivers one time.   it asked do you agree and i said no  that's as far as i ever got.
[05:51] <verbose> so you recommend aiglx over xgl?
[05:51] <xsacha> lol
[05:51] <xsacha> definately
[05:51] <intelikey> my total is still lower that 53m
[05:51] <binary2k2> verbose: aiglx is much better than xgl
[05:51] <xsacha>  8961 root      15   0 1395m 138m 3368 S  0.3 27.9  30:46.12 Xorg
[05:52] <xsacha> but i have ~15MB without beryl running
[05:52] <intelikey> total ram used. 51m  as we speak.
[05:52] <xsacha> intelikey: i guess you dont use any gtk apps?
[05:52] <intelikey> gtk ?
[05:52] <binary2k2> intelikey: I was just playing quake3 tho, so I expect it to be ~50m before beryl
[05:52] <xsacha> yeah
[05:52] <intelikey> konqueror looking at your screeny
[05:53] <intelikey> is konq not gtk ?
[05:53] <xsacha> qt
[05:53] <intelikey> oh yeah.   mmmm let me think.
[05:53] <binary2k2> nothing in KDE is gtk
[05:53] <binary2k2> unless you install GTK apps
[05:53] <xsacha> i have skype though.. that's worse
[05:53] <binary2k2> I use gizmo progect insted of skype
[05:54] <intelikey> gtk-query-immodules-2.0  shows that i must be using something....
[05:56] <Agent_bob> oooh yuck   gtk module path encludes   /usr/local/src/.gtk-2.0/2.4.0/i486-pc-linux-gnu/immodules
[06:00] <intelikey> other than synaptic xchat evolution gnome-games and metacity    i dont think i have anything gtk dependant installed......
[06:00] <intelikey> :)
[06:00] <binary2k2> well firefox uses gtk
[06:00] <intelikey> but i don't use ff
[06:00] <binary2k2> I con't live without firefox :p
[06:00] <intelikey> i do use mozilla tho and i think it may be gtk also.
[06:01] <binary2k2> s/con't/can't/
[06:01] <binary2k2> mozilla is too, yes
[06:01] <intelikey> i could live without all web browsers.
[06:01] <binary2k2> elinks rocks :p
[06:01] <intelikey> irc might be a problem for me tho.....
[06:02] <binary2k2> what client are you using then?
[06:02] <intelikey> links2 -g  or elinks    i don't much like ssl so i don't need elinks
[06:02] <intelikey> oh client  bx.
[06:02] <xsacha> what's that emulated gtk - like thing called?
[06:03] <intelikey> ?
[06:03] <binary2k2> not a clue
[06:03] <intelikey> binary2k2 ksirc is nice imo if you like gui.   bx if you go comando
[06:04] <intelikey> i have a habbit of avoiding what ever is most popular.
[06:04] <binary2k2> I've used ksirc, bun in term I use irssi
[06:04] <intelikey> ff konversation amerok...
[06:04] <binary2k2> but it's rare i use irssi
[06:04] <intelikey> yes and irssi added to that list.
[06:05] <binary2k2> god I love amarok tho
[06:05] <craftycorner> my ethernet card is working fine in Linux but is registering as having error in windows
[06:06] <binary2k2> craftycorner: then don't use windows
[06:06] <craftycorner> can that mean that the ethernet card is fine?
[06:06] <craftycorner> well, there are some things you need windows for, I'm still learning Linux
[06:06] <binary2k2> craftycorner: if it works in linux, it's a windows problem
[06:07] <binary2k2> craftycorner: sorry about the "don't use windows" thing, I couldn't help myself :p
[06:07] <craftycorner> ok, the other problem I am having, it's a Linux issue, I am trying to record video off my TV
[06:07] <intelikey> craftycorner "there are some things you need windows for"    like what ?
[06:07] <intelikey> oh yeah   BSOD  and virii
[06:08] <craftycorner> right now, I know it better than Linux, it will go bye bye when I get Linux under belt
[06:08] <craftycorner> BSOD will record video off my video card?
[06:08] <xsacha> lol
[06:09] <craftycorner> I'm looking for a way to record video from my capture card
[06:09] <craftycorner> TVTime is good for watching
[06:10] <corin> anybody know why I would have lower fps on a game in Linux than in windows?
[06:10] <xsacha> intelikey: XUL was what i was thinking of
[06:10] <intelikey> you could record it raw but that would load an hd quickly.  so you want something that will encode it.
[06:10] <intelikey> xsacha ?
[06:11] <xsacha> firefox uses XUL?
[06:11] <intelikey> oh.   beets me.
[06:11] <craftycorner> yea, MPEG2, although the puter isn't real fast
[06:11] <Jucato> yes, but also uses GTK
[06:11] <binary2k2> if you're feeling l33tish you can use mythtv, but good luck setting it up
[06:11] <craftycorner> mythtv was a pain!  I had to ditch it!
[06:11] <binary2k2> exactly
[06:12] <craftycorner> I installed dvr but can't find it  in my Kmenu
[06:12] <binary2k2> if you manage to get it working, it's great, but it's gotting it working that a bith
[06:12] <craftycorner> I want it to turn up in my kmenu and run, easilly
[06:12] <craftycorner> I'd pass on mythtv if I can
[06:13] <intelikey> i bet there is a way to pipe the device streight through an encoding app    dd if=/dev/tvcard | mpg123 filename.avi   or some such....    (that's just an example btw)
[06:13] <binary2k2> i gave up on mythtv ages ago
[06:13] <craftycorner> lol
[06:14] <craftycorner> I got Kino, but how do I get it to read my video spitting up the puter's butt?
[06:15] <craftycorner> what app can record video being squirted into a computer?
[06:15] <intelikey> that would be a good question for  ##linux
[06:15] <intelikey> :)
[06:15] <xsacha> !squirted
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squirted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <intelikey> worded just like that.....
[06:15] <intelikey> :)
[06:16] <craftycorner> I"m exasperated
[06:16] <intelikey> craftycorner ask in  ##linux
[06:17] <xsacha> !I_got_Kino,_but_how_do_I_get_it_to_read_my_video_spitting_up_the_puter's_butt? | #linux
[06:17] <intelikey> if the normal crew is there.   that will actually get you an answer.   if not that will get you laughted out of the channel.
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I_got_Kino,_but_how_do_I_get_it_to_read_my_video_spitting_up_the_puter's_butt? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <intelikey> i liked  {{{ <craftycorner> what app can record video being squirted into a computer? }}}
[06:18] <binary2k2> you wanna get flamed? join the debian development mailinglist and post a sudgestion :p
[06:18] <craftycorner> hwo do ii register
[06:19] <intelikey> yeah  hay!  #debian would be a good channel for that Q also.
[06:19] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[06:19] <binary2k2> intelikey: nope :p
[06:20] <intelikey> binary2k2 whys that ?
[06:20] <craftycorner> how do I register a nic name
[06:20] <binary2k2> "[05:19]  <intelikey> /msg nickserv help"
[06:20] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[06:20] <binary2k2> you forgot the capitals
[06:20] <binary2k2> thay matter
[06:20] <craftycorner> IT ISn't working
[06:21] <intelikey> not here they don't
[06:21] <intelikey> i did exactly that and get
[06:21] <corin_> my registered nickname is already in use?!
[06:21] <intelikey> -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- NickServ allows you to "register" a nickname
[06:21] <intelikey>           and
[06:21] <intelikey> -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- prevent others from using it. The following
[06:21] <intelikey> -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- commands allow for registration and maintenance
[06:22] <intelikey> corin_ you can use nickserv to reclaim it.
[06:22] <craftycorner> but how do I use the commands?
[06:22] <corin_> intelikey: how?
[06:22] <corin_> recover
[06:22] <corin_> k
[06:22] <binary2k2> intelikey: well shut me up, it works :p
[06:22] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[06:22] <corin_> woot i killed somebody :)
[06:22] <intelikey> binary2k2 ok    SHUT UP !
[06:22] <intelikey>  :)
[06:23] <SupremeBeing> there we go :)
[06:23] <SupremeBeing> thanks
[06:23] <intelikey> np
[06:23] <craftycorner> copypaste of any words on the list don't do anythig
[06:23] <SupremeBeing> intelikey: are you a gamer by any chance?
[06:23] <intelikey> lol   but only for a few seconds binary2k2
[06:23] <intelikey> SupremeBeing no
[06:24] <SupremeBeing> rats
[06:24] <craftycorner> just tell me the command to register a nick name and I can cut and paste it
[06:24] <SupremeBeing> msg nickserv register *nickname* *password*
[06:24] <intelikey> SupremeBeing i out grew that before nintindo was born
[06:24] <SupremeBeing> intelikey: :) lol
[06:24] <SupremeBeing> intelikey: you can't outgrow gaming :)
[06:24] <intelikey> but don't forget the leading   /
[06:24] <intelikey> SupremeBeing why not ?
[06:24] <craftycorner> NickServ- Unknown command [craftycorner]
[06:25] <craftycorner> I'm getting unknown commands
[06:25] <xsacha> you forgot the 'register'
[06:25] <SupremeBeing> intelikey: It's universal and it keeps your mind sharp :)
[06:25] <intelikey> it should say you must register first.
[06:25] <binary2k2> craftycorner: do /msg NickServ register (password)
[06:25] <SupremeBeing> oh ya my bad
[06:26] <craftycorner> it's not working
[06:26] <binary2k2> in konversation (don't know about other clients) "/ns register (password)" works too
[06:26] <intelikey> not in bx
[06:27] <SupremeBeing> dude i'll take ur name and register it for you ffs :/
[06:27] <binary2k2> then i'll just say "konversation rocks" :p
[06:28] <intelikey> binary2k2 just because it's got one script by default that i havent setup in bx ???
[06:28] <intelikey> -:- BitchX: Checking tables...
[06:28] <intelikey> -:- No information for identify
[06:28] <intelikey> so it would if i set it up.
[06:28] <craftycorner> worked
[06:28] <binary2k2> intelikey: it's not a script, it just works :p
[06:29] <intelikey> binary2k2 i bet it is.  you have no idea how many scripts your "konversation" has.
[06:30] <intelikey> i was stunned to see how many other clients had.
[06:30] <intelikey> but it could be hard coded....   i haven't checked.
[06:30] <binary2k2> intelikey: I looked in /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/ it's not there
[06:31] <intelikey> let me see if i have konversartion installed......
[06:31] <xsacha> i like [ [word]  ]
[06:31] <binary2k2> if you have kubuntu, it's installed by default
[06:31] <intelikey> nope not installed.
[06:31] <intelikey> i know that.
[06:31] <binary2k2> xsacha: I altered that to point to wiki.ubuntu.com to save time :p
[06:32] <xsacha> and /sysinfo
[06:32] <intelikey> i don't think i have ever installed kubuntu-desktop here....    did on someone elses box tho.
[06:32] <intelikey> only made the mistake of installing ubuntu-desktop one time.
[06:34] <intelikey> i like that much on a good day.
[06:34] <intelikey> less on others
[06:35] <intelikey> i kinda have this hate hate relationship with 'nome
[06:35] <intelikey> and amarok too
[06:35] <SupremeBeing> lol
[06:35] <SupremeBeing> kaffeine > amarok
[06:36] <binary2k2> I love amarok, can't live without it
[06:36] <SupremeBeing> i hate gnome because for some reason, the network config freezes when I enable rausb0
[06:36] <intelikey> !start a mediaplayer war
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start a mediaplayer war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <SupremeBeing> and I can't reboot X or anything, have to reboot
[06:36] <intelikey> i wish they hadn't removed that feture form the bot.
[06:36] <SupremeBeing> lol
[06:37] <intelikey> they casterated the bot.
[06:38] <intelikey> no wait is ubotu got a port or dungle ?
[06:38] <intelikey> well there is something missing form the bot now.
[06:39] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start an editor war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start a desktop war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <intelikey> !start a distro war
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start a distro war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <intelikey> !myself
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <paul___> hey- I need help
[06:40] <intelikey> what ya need ?
[06:40] <paul___> I just installed kubuntu, and I don't know what the 'root' password is
[06:40] <paul___> how do I log in as root?
[06:40] <intelikey> it doesn't heve one
[06:40] <intelikey> !sudo
[06:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:41] <intelikey> read that ^
[06:41] <binary2k2> !start sudo war
[06:41] <binary2k2> :p
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start sudo war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <intelikey> paul___ if you for some reason feel compeled to set a root passwd i'll tell you how.  but plese read that first.
[06:41] <binary2k2> intelikey: you on the kubuntu mailing list??
[06:42] <binary2k2> *kubuntu-users
[06:42] <intelikey> nope not part of the team.  i don't even like ubuntu ....
[06:42] <SupremeBeing> wha?
[06:42] <binary2k2> there's a MEGA thread on sudo atm :p
[06:43] <paul___> agh I just want to mount a drive!
[06:43] <binary2k2> or rather su vs sudo
[06:43] <binary2k2> paul___: sudo mount
[06:43] <binary2k2> and use YOUR user password
[06:43] <manchicken> !start scratching your butt...
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start scratching your butt... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <intelikey> hey i didn't like my ex-wife but i used her for years....   why should ubuntu be so different.
[06:44] <intelikey> :)
[06:44] <binary2k2> try telling that to some people :p
[06:44] <intelikey> lol   yeah i know there are places to NOT say such things.
[06:45] <intelikey> most of you guys know me here...
[06:45] <dbglt> help!
[06:45] <dbglt> upgraded to feisty
[06:45] <dbglt> (or trying to)
[06:45] <dbglt> Unpacking replacement kdebase-data ...
[06:45] <dbglt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb (--unpack):
[06:45] <dbglt>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kinfocenter/cdinfo/index.cache.bz2', which is also in package kcontrol
[06:45] <dbglt> how do I fix that up?
[06:46] <manchicken> Feisty is still unstable...
[06:46] <MotorCityMadMan> wireless network
[06:46] <Jucato> dbglt: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 :)
[06:46] <MotorCityMadMan> wireless
[06:47] <intelikey> dbglt try sudo mv /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kinfocenter/cdinfo/index.cache.bz2 . ;sudo apt-get install -f
[06:47] <MotorCityMadMan> !wireless network
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <intelikey> it's a hack but might work.
[06:47] <MotorCityMadMan> !wireless
[06:47] <binary2k2> dbglt: 1) feisty is a development version and is NOT stable
[06:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:47] <dbglt> binary2k2: oh, I'm well aware - I'm just not very familiar with apt architecture
[06:47] <intelikey> !wifi | MotorCityMadMan
[06:47] <ubotu> MotorCityMadMan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:47] <dbglt> can't really troubleshoot it very well :)
[06:47] <binary2k2> dbglt: 2) dpkg --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb
[06:48] <intelikey> -i  ^
[06:48] <binary2k2> ahh, yeah :p
[06:48] <binary2k2> dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb
[06:48] <intelikey> binary2k2 there ya go.
[06:49] <intelikey> binary2k2 are you sure that's the package name for fisty ?
[06:49] <binary2k2> intelikey:  <dbglt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11_all.deb (--unpack):
[06:50] <binary2k2> so yeah
[06:50] <intelikey> we all have blond moments.
[06:50] <raul> Is there a way to make kpdf use a specific font. anybody?
[06:50] <intelikey> that was mine.
[06:50] <binary2k2> :p
[06:50] <intelikey> raul pdf's specify their own fonts     no ?
[06:51] <intelikey> that's another thing i have against pdf
[06:51] <dbglt> can you pass a force-overwrite or some such via apt?
[06:51] <raul> what if we dont have the font?
[06:51] <dbglt> or need to use dpkg directly?
[06:51] <dbglt> (just for future reference)
[06:51] <intelikey> dbglt dpkg
[06:51] <dbglt> apt man page doesn't seem to say anything about it
[06:51] <binary2k2> dbglt: no, apt won't pass anything to dpkg
[06:51] <intelikey> are you sure ?
[06:52] <binary2k2> dbglt: do the dpkg command then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:52] <binary2k2> intelikey: yep
[06:52] <dbglt> binary2k2: aye, thanks
[06:53] <intelikey> well apt-get does accept   --force-yes
[06:53] <binary2k2> intelikey: that's nothing to do with dpkg
[06:54] <raul> have a nice day everyone
[06:54] <dbglt> that's just to accept things, correct?
[06:54] <dbglt> auto say yes
[06:54] <binary2k2> it's just to force apt to install, like if it can't verify the package
[06:54] <nikkun> can anyone help me with an odd partitioning problem
[06:54] <nikkun> ?
[06:55] <binary2k2> nikkun: depends on the problem
[06:55] <nikkun> my partitions wont auto mount
[06:55] <intelikey> binary2k2 i know it's not.  jsut an answer to the quarry about force and apt.
[06:55] <binary2k2> nikkun: do you have a entry for it in fstab?
[06:55] <nikkun> yep
[06:55] <nikkun> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315948
[06:55] <nikkun> its in that post
[06:56] <binary2k2> nikkun: have you checked the UUIDs?
[06:57] <nikkun> binary2k2: how do i do that? I have never messed with the fstab in ubuntu
[06:57] <intelikey> nikkun error in line    /dev/ /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
[06:57] <binary2k2> nikkun: eg: sudo vol_id /dev/hda1
[06:57] <intelikey> you can not mount /dev/
[06:58] <binary2k2> yep, that line's wrong
[06:59] <nikkun> the uuid nubmers are right
[06:59] <nikkun> could it be with the umask or gid?
[07:00] <binary2k2> nikkun: just noticed, you don't have "auto" in the lines
[07:01] <nikkun> binary2k2: this is the fstab made by ubuntu so it knows the file formats of them
[07:01] <binary2k2> nikkun: change "UUID=BAF4-9DCF /media/transfer vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1" to "UUID=BAF4-9DCF /media/transfer vfat auto,defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1"
[07:02] <binary2k2> nikkun: and "UUID=38205CE2205CA920 /media/windows ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1" to "UUID=38205CE2205CA920 /media/windows ntfs auto,defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1"
[07:02] <nikkun> ok
[07:02] <binary2k2> just add "auto" to them
[07:02] <binary2k2> that's tells ubuntu to mount them at boot
[07:02] <nikkun> ahh ok
[07:03] <nikkun> ok well if it doesnt work ill be back in here lol
[07:03] <binary2k2> :p ok
[07:05] <magnanimo> ?
[07:11] <nikkun> just poped in to say thanks it worked :)
[07:11] <binary2k2> great :D
[07:11] <jetc> anyone know how to set permission where a certain user can't access a folder?
[07:12] <binary2k2> jetc: sudo
[07:14] <jetc> hrmm?
[07:18] <binary2k2> jetc: what exactly do you want to do?
[07:19] <jetc> i want my /media/ folder and its contents to be only viewable by my account and nobody else's
[07:19] <binary2k2> jetc: hmm, ok
[07:19] <binary2k2> jetc: sudo chown [youruser] :[youruser]
[07:20] <binary2k2> jetc: then: chmod 700 /media
[07:20] <jetc> ok, thx
[07:21] <binary2k2> no problem, tho I don't know why you'd want to do that :p
[07:21] <jetc> ;o
[07:28] <prophitinc> anyone ever use those sites that are pointless like myspace and such?
[07:29] <binary2k2> myspace = spam overload
[07:29] <prophitinc> well anyways you know the slax background that has the green background witht he 4leaf clover in the middle with big black letters slax under it
[07:29] <prophitinc> well i tried out that tagged.com site
[07:30] <prophitinc> and they wouldnt let me add that picture as my background....so i made my own...please if you will check it out you dont have to join just go look see...if you will...http//www.tagged.com/prophitinc
[07:30] <prophitinc> its a message to corporate america...the dirty bastards
[07:31] <prophitinc> yeah thats the only reason i went to see what all those were about...turns out the site is worthless....amazing that people spend so much time doing nothing on the net
[07:31] <craftycorner> ok, myth didn't work, cuz my TV tuner card isn't what i wanna hook up.  I wanna feed S-Video into my computer from my cable box
[07:32] <craftycorner> is this where I wanna be for advice?  I don't wanna be a pest,
[07:32] <craftycorner> I don't have a TV tuner card, I've a video card, dif animal
[07:33] <xsacha> so you want this different animal to spit up your computer ass?
[07:34] <xsacha> (quotes from you)
[07:34] <craftycorner> lol, send video up my video card so I can record it to an mpeg file
[07:34] <prophitinc> if the video card doesnt support in feed it wont work will it?
[07:35] <craftycorner> um, I am getting signal, I watch video using TVTime.
[07:35] <craftycorner> TVTime doesn't RECORD the feed
[07:35] <prophitinc> what video card are you using?
[07:35] <craftycorner> hwo do i find out?
[07:36] <prophitinc> it was on the box or should have been
[07:36] <craftycorner> checking...
[07:36] <notech> prophitinc: the link you posted...hardly mature
[07:37] <prophitinc> who cares?....that site is worthless
[07:37] <craftycorner> I mean, I didn't build this computer, it was built 4 me.  looking at the KInfoCenter.
[07:38] <notech> prophitinc: if you don't care what it makes you look like, that's fine
[07:38] <prophitinc> but you are saying crafty that the video card has an svideo spot on it
[07:38] <craftycorner> yes, I am watching SVideo on tvtime
[07:38] <prophitinc> what notech it makes me look like what?....its not like it matters...no one but you will ever see it and when the site admins do they will delete it
[07:38] <prophitinc> no harm no foul
[07:39] <craftycorner> ?
[07:39] <craftycorner> yes, my video card has SVideo
[07:39] <craftycorner> just a sec
[07:40] <craftycorner> S Video is the only feed that works
[07:40] <prophitinc> so the vga doesnt work at all?
[07:40] <craftycorner> no
[07:40] <craftycorner> I don't have it plugged in
[07:40] <craftycorner> pain in the butt
[07:41] <prophitinc> ok did you ever find out what the card is?
[07:41] <craftycorner> where can I do a big pastedump
[07:42] <craftycorner> X-Server is what I got when I did a search on puter
[07:44] <craftycorner> is a video card on the motherboard?
[07:46] <binary2k2> !pastebin | craftycorner
[07:46] <ubotu> craftycorner: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:46] <notech> more like a motherboard video is a video chipset, not a card
[07:52] <craftycorner> ok, checking
[07:52] <craftycorner> chipset is KT6V
[07:52] <craftycorner> series
[07:53] <craftycorner> Via Raid
[07:55] <craftycorner> KT6V MS-7021(V1X) ATX Mainboard is what it says on my pampthlet
[07:56] <craftycorner> notech, does that tell u anything?
[08:00] <craftycorner> hello?
[08:00] <SupremeBeing> what's the default size of the swap partition
[08:01] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: about 1 to 1.5 times your RAM
[08:01] <SupremeBeing> Hmm.
[08:01] <craftycorner> can u tell me what to use to turn what's shown on TVTime to a mpeg file?
[08:01] <craftycorner> mythtv is too slow
[08:01] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: over 1GB ram then 1x RAM, less then 1.5x
[08:02] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: K
[08:05] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: any possible reasons why i'd have about 1/3 the fps in a game as I do in windoze?
[08:05] <dustin> Hey
[08:06] <HearWa> I just made the switch from Gentoo to Kubuntu, and I can't believe the differences! I thought kubuntu would just be another distro, but was I ever wrong!
[08:06] <SupremeBeing> wow
[08:06] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:06] <HearWa> Seriously, it's been a while since I've been this impressed with any piece of software.
[08:07] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: that's strange, i have  2x frame rate in linux
[08:07] <HearWa> It even recognized the freaking volume dial on my keyboard
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: Indeed, that's what I've heard
[08:07] <HearWa> But anyways, enough nug-hugging, I have a little problem here.
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: That's what I really wanted from Linux, but it's not coming to pass
[08:07] <HearWa> nut*
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> nug-hugging lol
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> oh
[08:07] <SupremeBeing> eww?
[08:07] <HearWa> haha
[08:07] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: what's getting the low frame rate?
[08:08] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory (quake 3 engine)
[08:08] <HearWa> Ok, here's the problem: I was into kde once and I found a graphical package manager in the menu. I restarted my computer and it is no longer there! What's the command to launch it?
[08:08] <SupremeBeing> Adept?
[08:08] <HearWa> Yes, that was the name. I couldn't remember it.
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> :)
[08:09] <HearWa> How do I launch it if it's not in the menu?
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> in the Konsole
[08:09] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: hmm, i play quake 3 arena, and it's truly a great experience
[08:09] <HearWa> I typed 'adept' in the konsole and it never launched.
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: Indeed :) so how  sohuld I fix it
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: sudo adept
[08:09] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: must run as root
[08:10] <HearWa> sudo: adept: command not found
[08:10] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: Hmmm, that's not a good sign
[08:10] <binary2k2> HearWa: kdesu adept
[08:11] <SupremeBeing> why wouldn't sudo work?  it worked for me
[08:11] <binary2k2> of you can find adept, the install kubuntu-desktop (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:11] <HearWa> I'll post the output in a pastebin, brb
[08:12] <HearWa> http://quickfry.com/pastebin/view.php?id=21
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: any ideas why i'd have very low fps?  I have fglrx working, glxgears yields good fps
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: Do what he said, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: seems like adept got removed
[08:12] <HearWa> I think I might have removed something I shouldn't have in the last session.
[08:12] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: what hardware have you got?
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: ATI X1300 256 (agp)
[08:12] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: 3.0 ghz P4, 1gb ram
[08:13] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: do you have the binary drivers?
[08:13] <HearWa> So that command will reinstall it?
[08:13] <SupremeBeing> yes
[08:13] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I have fglrx
[08:13] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I believe those are the binary drivers (but I'm not sure)
[08:13] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: have you tested the fps with the binary driver VS the ubuntu one?
[08:14] <HearWa> This all started when I tried to install libaa1
[08:14] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: well, the only way I can seem to get 3d accel is with the ubuntu one
[08:14] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: the ATi installer never worked out for me :/
[08:14] <HearWa> It said something about removing the kdm, which I thought was really strange.
[08:14] <SupremeBeing> lol ;)
[08:14] <HearWa> I'm such a newb to this distro. :(
[08:15] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: me too, really =)
[08:15] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: I have an intergrated intel chipset so I don't know muck about the ATI drivers
[08:15] <binary2k2> btw, AIGLX ROCKS :p
[08:16] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I   installed that when I was working on Beryl, what is it?
[08:16] <binary2k2> aiglx?
[08:16] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: yeah
[08:16] <rabbycn> :)
[08:17] <binary2k2> It's a was of getting 3D accelerated affects with DRI (direct/hardware rendering)
[08:18] <caseyomah> !css
[08:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:18] <binary2k2> XGL is the (older) other way that the nvidia (for example) cards use
[08:18] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: ok, do I need to do something with that to help my fps?
[08:18] <HearWa> Ok, sweet, it worked!
[08:19] <SupremeBeing> HearWa: Congrats :)
[08:20] <caseyomah> Is there an Edgy repo for libdvdcss or should I use Dapper?
[08:21] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[08:21] <HearWa> Hmm... in kubuntu do you have to install the offical nvidia graphics driver binary yourself?
[08:21] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: Yes, many times
[08:21] <binary2k2> caseyomah: look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:22] <towyc> hello world.
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: weird thing is, I think my glxgears output was normal :/
[08:22] <Hobbsee> caseyomah: "locate install-css" and paste the result in here
[08:22] <towyc> trouble with beryl?
[08:22] <Hobbsee> towyc: ask in #beryl
[08:22] <towyc> i was asking you.
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> towyc: or #ubuntu-xgl
[08:22] <towyc> =)
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> whoops
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:22] <towyc> hey supreme
[08:22] <towyc> lol
[08:22] <towyc> 2 days no see =)
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> indeed :)
[08:22] <SupremeBeing> had to  reinstall again
[08:23] <SupremeBeing> stupid beryl.....
[08:23] <towyc> nice
[08:23] <caseyomah> Thanks.
[08:23] <towyc> i meant
[08:23] <towyc> i don't know =)
[08:23] <towyc> lol
[08:23] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:23] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: them, if you are using the binary drivers?, switch back to the ubuntu ones
[08:23] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I'm on the ubuntu ones
[08:23] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: i don't think the binary ones worked
[08:24] <binary2k2> I don't know then, kinda loas here as I don't have a ATI card in any of my boxs
[08:24] <towyc> hey i just saw geforce 7800gs for 230 dollars, it's the agp version too
[08:24] <towyc> i'm so gonna get it tomorrow
[08:25] <towyc> when my friend returns my credit card lol
[08:25] <SupremeBeing> swish!
[08:25] <SupremeBeing> I hate ATi with a passion
[08:25] <towyc> lol
[08:25] <SupremeBeing> I bought this before I was enlightened
[08:26] <binary2k2> towyc: 1) $230 on a graphics card, wtf? and 2) you gave your friend your credit card?
[08:26] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:26] <towyc> i almost bought a 6800gs last semester
[08:26] <towyc> lol
[08:26] <towyc> 230 its cheap
[08:26] <towyc> the new 8800 is like 500+
[08:26] <binary2k2> intel works great thanks :p
[08:26] <towyc> =)
[08:26] <binary2k2> aigls with no problems :p
[08:27] <binary2k2> *aiglx
[08:27] <towyc> but it doesn't do so well in like the newer games =)
[08:27] <binary2k2> ak SupremeBeing (sorry SupremeBeing) :p
[08:27] <binary2k2> s/ak/ask/
[08:27] <towyc> o
[08:27] <HearWa> Thanks for the help, later.
[08:28] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: No problem :P
[08:28] <towyc> u guys should just check out newegg.com
[08:28] <towyc> they h ave great stuff there
[08:28] <towyc> even if u don't want graphics card, they got like the cheapest everything
[08:29] <binary2k2> even tho I have a crappy intel 845G intergrated graphics, I get great fps on games and beryl works like a charm. thank god for linux
[08:29] <towyc> anyway, the 8800 i saw had like 765 mb memory on it too
[08:29] <towyc> didn't know that =)
[08:29] <towyc> yeah well i got nvidia and beryl doesn't work for me, dAmn it, lol
[08:30] <binary2k2> that's because the nvidia drivers (from ubuntu) need XGL
[08:30] <SupremeBeing> Beryl won't work for anybody that's not divinely blessed by the Pope and at least 5   nuns
[08:30] <binary2k2> (which is crap :p )
[08:31] <SupremeBeing> ugh i can't find anything about this
[08:31] <binary2k2> the pope (and 5 nuns) must love me than :p
[08:31] <towyc> does it matter tho
[08:31] <towyc> cuz doesn't it say aiglx works too
[08:31] <towyc> right?
[08:31] <towyc> i'm new to kubuntu
[08:31] <towyc> so i don't know at all
[08:32] <towyc> or is aiglx the thing that's supposed to fix ati cards
[08:32] <binary2k2> aiglx only works with the beta nvidia drivers from the nvidia website
[08:32] <towyc> oo that might be my problem
[08:32] <binary2k2> but the driver is a bets, so it may not even work that well
[08:32] <towyc> i've given up on beryl so long ago lol
[08:32] <towyc> even tho linux is my main os now
[08:32] <towyc> i only have ms on one laptop and everything else is kubuntu
[08:32] <binary2k2> once you go linux, you HATE windows :p
[08:32] <towyc> but no beryl = no fun
[08:33] <SupremeBeing> true
[08:33] <towyc> well i don't hate windows
[08:33] <SupremeBeing> I tolerated windows until kubuntu opened my eyes =)
[08:33] <towyc> they seem to have a good slogan, clarity
[08:33] <towyc> the new window slogan i meant
[08:33] <SupremeBeing> what's that?
[08:33] <towyc> clarity.
[08:33] <tamacracker> Hey guys?
[08:34] <tamacracker> Is there an app I can download that'll let me listen to AM radio?
[08:34] <tamacracker> AM Radio Stations*
[08:34] <towyc> yes i laughed. lmao, but it's a good vision even if they don't ever get there
[08:34] <binary2k2> I have 1 XP machine (for the people in the family who are too dumb to use linux) and I HATE having to use it on the odd time I have to install updates and such
[08:34] <towyc> so where do i get xgl?
[08:34] <SupremeBeing> i think you have to add a repo
[08:34] <SupremeBeing> and apt-get it
[08:35] <towyc> o
[08:35] <towyc> cuz everytime i start beryl
[08:35] <towyc> it says xgl not found, video card, found
[08:35] <towyc> and then it says
[08:35] <binary2k2> towyc: I think there is info on http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[08:35] <towyc> attempting to open without xgl
[08:35] <towyc> and then gets stuck after
[08:35] <towyc> cool thx i'll check it out
[08:35] <SupremeBeing> i thought aiglx was preferred to xgl
[08:35] <SupremeBeing> for beryl
[08:35] <towyc> yeah me too
[08:35] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if there's a program I can download to listen to am radio?
[08:35] <towyc> that's why i dn't get why i can't get it to work
[08:36] <towyc> all that happens when i say beryl-manager
[08:36] <towyc> is a black background coming up
[08:36] <binary2k2> it is, but ati and nvidia don't have good support fot it
[08:36] <towyc> then why is aiglx perfered?
[08:36] <towyc> just asking
[08:36] <binary2k2> nvidia only havve some support in it beta drivers
[08:36] <towyc> cuz would aiglx be preferred for other things
[08:36] <towyc> but aiglx supports ati?
[08:37] <binary2k2> towyc: i'm not an exper in it, so it may do?
[08:37] <SupremeBeing> I'm gonna try the ATI-proprietary drivers
[08:37] <binary2k2> aiglx is the project that is being developed, xgl is going to die
[08:38] <towyc> binary2k2 i don't know, just trying to gather as much info as i could =)
[08:38] <towyc> o
[08:38] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if there's a program I can download for Kubuntu that'll let me listen to AM radion stations?
[08:38] <binary2k2> xgl is an old, stop gap, mesure
[08:39] <binary2k2> aiglx is the future :p
[08:39] <towyc> well i'll get whatever that's gonna work
[08:39] <towyc> =)
[08:39] <towyc> o btw
[08:39] <towyc> when i use web browsers
[08:39] <towyc> everytime i start a new window
[08:39] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: what's your output from glxgears?
[08:39] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I wanna compare
[08:39] <towyc> it first presents a blackscreen
[08:39] <towyc> and then it shows the contents
[08:39] <towyc> why is that...
[08:39] <towyc> but that might be minor question cuz
[08:40] <platypus> i try burning cd using k3b
[08:40] <binary2k2> towyc: maybe it's just loading>
[08:40] <binary2k2> ?
[08:40] <platypus> it says that my data won't fit on dvd
[08:40] <towyc> yeah it's loading
[08:40] <platypus> my data = 3.7g
[08:40] <towyc> but why black screen
[08:40] <towyc> i don't like blackscreen lol =(
[08:40] <platypus> dvd = 4.7g
[08:40] <platypus> anyone else have this problem ?
[08:40] <towyc> it doesn't ever show blackscreen on any other webbrowser that i've seen
[08:40] <towyc> as in internet explorer and stuff
[08:41] <towyc> anyway
[08:41] <towyc> the bigger question is, why is it that the desktop gadget things always report used ram = 900mb
[08:41] <towyc> when my total ram is only 1g
[08:41] <towyc> i think somehow everything's slower on my desktop kubuntu =*(
[08:42] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: ~400 FPS (with berly ~1200 FPS without)
[08:42] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if kubuntu can recieve streaming music from radio stations?
[08:42] <binary2k2> towyc: it's normal for ram to be 90-95% in use
[08:42] <binary2k2> towyc: it's just the cashe
[08:42] <towyc> but then on other desktop gadgets
[08:42] <towyc> it's reporting 200mb in use
[08:43] <towyc> like they're not even coharrent
[08:43] <towyc> and everything seems slow all of a sudden, always, after like 1 hr of use
[08:43] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: and what fps do you get in q3?
[08:43] <towyc> =:((
[08:43] <binary2k2> towyc: maybe becaue the other gadgets it's not reporting the cache use
[08:43] <towyc> alrights =)
[08:44] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: I haven't tested yet, only just (a few hours ago) re-installed it
[08:44] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: cause I'm getting about 2300-2800 in glxgears
[08:44] <SupremeBeing> :/
[08:44] <SupremeBeing> I should be above 30 fps
[08:45] <towync> oops, i got disconnected
[08:45] <towync> darn it
[08:45] <towync> does anyone know if there is tweaks/sites that talk about how to get ubuntu to run more smoothly? thx =)
[08:46] <binary2k2> towync: how much more smoothly do you want it to run?
[08:46] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if kubuntu can recieve streaming music from radio stations?
[08:46] <SupremeBeing> towync: (I advise Xubuntu if you Reaaaaaaaaaalllllllly want smooth)
[08:46] <binary2k2> (sarcastic question) :p
[08:46] <SupremeBeing> tamacracker: It can if you have the right player :)
[08:46] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: lol
[08:47] <tamacracker> May I get a recommendation?
[08:47] <tamacracker> One that may play AM stations... if possible?
[08:47] <SupremeBeing> lol
[08:47] <SupremeBeing> AM stations
[08:47] <tamacracker> Please :D
[08:47] <SupremeBeing> do you have a hw tuner?
[08:47] <SupremeBeing> most AM stations don't stream.
[08:48] <tamacracker> Yeah I listen to 610AM... good info on that station from 1am to 5am
[08:48] <tamacracker> hw tuner?
[08:49] <SupremeBeing> hardware
[08:52] <luca> hi everyone
[08:53] <ThePub> morning
[08:55] <binary2k2> f$K it's morning already?
[08:55] <luca> does anyone know how to make googleearth function with nvidia drivers?
[08:59] <No1Viking> Hello....
[09:00] <jongt> hey
[09:00] <jongt> i think im gunna get kubuntu
[09:00] <tamacracker> no I dont think I have a hardware tuber SupremeBeing
[09:01] <binary2k2> jongt: yes, get kubuntu :p
[09:01] <jongt> binary2k2, yea im excited
[09:01] <jongt> im on gentoo
[09:01] <jongt> not doing well
[09:01] <SupremeBeing> hmm, how do you watch DivX movies on linux?
[09:01] <SupremeBeing> I installed the Divx, but Amarok and Kaffeine don't know that
[09:02] <binary2k2> kubuntu (as well as everythng except slackware) is easyer than gentoo
[09:02] <No1Viking> I'm trying to view a DVD that I mounted in /media/iso. When I try to play if with Kaffeine I get the followong messages: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd://]  etc
[09:03] <jongt> binary2k2, is aigxl easy to get working with kubuntu
[09:04] <tamacracker> I haven't watched a DivX file on linux yet...
[09:04] <tamacracker> im talkin bout listening to AM radio.
[09:04] <binary2k2> jongt: yeah, I have an intergrated intel 845G graphics card and AIGLS works great
[09:04] <jongt> binary2k2, haha im on 945gm
[09:04] <jongt> binary2k2, do you have to use compiz or beryl?
[09:05] <binary2k2> jongt: this PC it about 4-5 yesrs old, and I have beryl
[09:05] <binary2k2> beryl was far too EASY to install :p
[09:05] <jongt> sweet im gunna try to get that goin
[09:06] <tamacracker> Haaahahahaha the Alex Jones Show!
[09:06] <binary2k2> jongt: edgy or dapper?
[09:08] <jongt> binary2k2, i dont even know what that means :(
[09:09] <jongt> jongt, im real new and picked gentoo as first distro so im chillin here on gentoo with broken gnome waiting to re install
[09:10] <binary2k2> jongt: I mean what version are you going to install 6.06 (dapper) or 6.10 (edgy)
[09:10] <jongt> oh
[09:10] <SupremeBeing> anybody know how to use Divx on linux
[09:10] <jongt> dapper probably
[09:11] <binary2k2> jongt: then lookmat this help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnDapper
[09:11] <binary2k2> (when you install)
[09:11] <jongt> binary2k2, what are you on?
[09:12] <binary2k2> jongt: Edgy :D
[09:12] <jongt> binary2k2, buggy?
[09:13] <binary2k2> jongt: I've found it very stable, but dapper is the LTS (Long Term Support) version
[09:13] <jongt> binary2k2, is edgy nice?
[09:13] <binary2k2> jongt: I have to say, edgy is sweet :D
[09:14] <jongt> but more support for dapper?
[09:14] <binary2k2> jongt: AIGLX is included in the xorg package by default on edgy
[09:15] <nino> qualche italiano?
[09:15] <binary2k2> jongt: not more support, just longer term support
[09:15] <binary2k2> jongt: edgy is a fully supported official version
[09:15] <nino> ci sono italiani?
[09:15] <jongt> why would it only have 18 month support?
[09:15] <binary2k2> !it | nino
[09:15] <ubotu> nino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:16] <binary2k2> jongt: because a new version is released every 6 months
[09:16] <nino> ho bisogno d'aiuto
[09:16] <binary2k2> i.e in 6 months Feisty Fawn will be out
[09:17] <nino> ho installato ora kubuntu e non so come scaricare i pacchetti
[09:17] <nino> per favore
[09:17] <binary2k2> !it | nino
[09:17] <ubotu> nino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:17] <jongt> so edgy doesn't have any problems?
[09:17] <nino> salve
[09:18] <binary2k2> jongt: I use edgy as my main system, it's works great
[09:18] <nino> qualcuno puo aiutarmi per favore?
[09:18] <jongt> binary2k2, when you say support, it means what exactly
[09:19] <binary2k2> nino: italiano#kubuntu-it
[09:19] <binary2k2> nino: italiano #kubuntu-it
[09:19] <binary2k2> jongt: I mean security updates
[09:19] <jongt> maybe ill get edgy then
[09:20] <SupremeBeing> I'm thinkin Gentoo now
[09:20] <SupremeBeing> Kubuntu is pissin me off!
[09:20] <SupremeBeing> lol
[09:20] <jongt> lol
[09:20] <luca> does everyone know how to make googleearth function with nvidia drivers?
[09:21] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: If yu want to compile everything then go with gentoo Lo
[09:21] <binary2k2> :p
[09:21] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: ewww
[09:21] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: nm
[09:21] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: XD
[09:21] <jongt> binary2k2, so really only advantage of dapper is longer term, but edgy is more up to date
[09:22] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: how can I play Divx videos? It's not working :/
[09:22] <binary2k2> jongt: that's exacty it
[09:22] <jongt> edgy it is
[09:22] <jongt> that guide you showed me for aigxl, theres one for edgy?
[09:22] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: do you have the w32codecs pacjage?
[09:23] <binary2k2> jongt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy :D
[09:23] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: I tried to apt-get it but it didn't locate the package
[09:23] <binary2k2> that's the one I followed
[09:23] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: you need to follow the guide
[09:23] <jongt> binary2k2, is there a guide online for install or is everything walk thru?
[09:24] <binary2k2> SupremeBeing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[09:24] <SupremeBeing> binary2k2: thanks
[09:25] <jongt> binary2k2, thanks aton for the help im going to sleep and d/loadin
[09:25] <binary2k2> jongt: for AIGLX follow that link, then for beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[09:27] <SupremeBeing> good luck
[09:28] <binary2k2> he's a strange one, he says "I want to convert to linux before I try open office" :p
[09:28] <No1Viking> Do I need to add any lib or driver to get kaffeine to work with DVD movies?
[09:29] <binary2k2> No1Viking: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[09:29] <binary2k2> No1Viking: that wil tell you how
[09:38] <max_> can someone recommend hardware for putting togther a box that is XGL capable?
[09:38] <binary2k2> max_: XGL is an old platform, you want AIGLX
[09:39] <No1Viking> binary2k2, is it better to install vlc when I want to look at a movie that comes from a mounted image?
[09:40] <binary2k2> No1Viking: I have found vlc to be good when you want to look at an movie that's UNmounted, anything will look at a mounted image
[09:40] <max_> binary2k2: thanks
[09:41] <binary2k2> No1Viking: vlc will play a iso file, anything will play a mounted image (as it's just like inserting a CD/DVD in to the drive)
[09:42] <No1Viking> binary2k2, I did mount -o loop image /media/iso and I cant see the DVD in the right way.
[09:43] <binary2k2> max_: even intel intergrated graphics works great with aiglx/beryl, I have that now
[09:43] <max_> binary2k2: really?
[09:43] <Zamber> yep, it is
[09:44] <Zamber> if you have good hardware ;]
[09:44] <max_> binary2k2: i doubt my box could pull it, 768(somthin like that) mb ram, intel i810chipset
[09:45] <Zamber> I saw it on 1Ghz 256RAM and some nice nvidia
[09:45] <Zamber> worked quite fine
[09:45] <edgy> Hi, how can I show  a progress bar while I do cp in kubuntu?
[09:45] <binary2k2> max_: that will be fine, I had 512MB RAM (before recent upgrade) with intel 845G intergrated chipset, AIGLX ran GREAT
[09:45] <max_> binary2k2: someone just said edgy had it on it already and you didnt have to install it
[09:45] <max_> that true?
[09:46] <binary2k2> edgy: that requires use of dcop, too compilcated for mw
[09:46] <binary2k2> *me
[09:47] <binary2k2> max_: (I think it was me who said that) edgy has it already avaliable, you just enable it, it's easy tho
[09:47] <fdoving> edgy: you can use 'mc'
[09:48] <max_> binary2k2: it was someone in the ubuntu room, how do you enable it?
[09:48] <binary2k2> fdoving is right, but if you want a X progress bar, you need dcop
[09:48] <fdoving> binary2k2: doesn't help with dcop..
[09:49] <ajayc> You are all welcome to #ubuntu-cafe!
[09:49] <binary2k2> fdoving: for X progress bar with kdialog, you need dcop
[09:49] <fdoving> kdialog can be used to make the progress bar.. but then you'll need some output from 'cp'.. which you won't get with the regular 'cp'
[09:49] <binary2k2> max_: here's how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy
[09:49] <max_> thanks
[09:49] <binary2k2> fdoving, yes true
[09:50] <binary2k2> max_: your walocme :D
[09:51] <binary2k2> edgy, you can make a psudo progress bar with kdialog and dcop, but i doubt that's what you want
[09:52] <binary2k2> ajayc: what's #ubuntu-cafe about?
[09:52] <ajayc> binary2k2, its an unofficial chan for offtopic stuff humour and UBUNTU PARTY!!!
[09:52] <ajayc> :D
[09:53] <binary2k2> ajayc: like #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[09:53] <heinkel_111> is kubuntuforums.net down?
[09:53] <Zamber> !cafe
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cafe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <Zamber> aww
[09:53] <heinkel_111> or is my net extremely slow
[09:53] <fdoving> heinkel_111: works for me.
[09:53] <binary2k2> ajayc: but better :p
[09:54] <ajayc> binary2k2, yeah far better! they are a bit formal we are gonna have swearing there LOL and main is party!
[09:54] <Jucato> heinkel_111: works here too
[09:54] <heinkel_111> i got it working
[09:54] <heinkel_111> too, but it loaded in like 5 minutes...
[09:55] <binary2k2> ajayc: is there a kubuntu-cafe ? ir is it *buntu generic?
[09:55] <ajayc> its generic
[09:55] <ajayc> :)
[09:55] <ajayc> everyone is invited
[09:55] <binary2k2> ok,  I'll join then :p
[09:56] <JackPhil> 7z -e foo.rar
[09:56] <heinkel_111> ok then, since it is sunday morning and you have nothing else to do, how about giving it a go troubleshooting my kde crashes: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11829.0
[09:56] <JackPhil> i got an Unsupported Method error
[09:56] <heinkel_111> ;)
[09:57] <binary2k2> JackPhil: install "unrar"
[09:59] <binary2k2> man that beryl "fire" effect is cool (or hot) :p
[09:59] <xsacha> :)
[10:00] <xsacha> this one binary2k2? http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/534/animationmn2.png (burn and beam up)
[10:01] <binary2k2> xsacha: yeah, that one :p
[10:01] <binary2k2> rocks don'r it :p
[10:01] <xsacha> :)
[10:02] <binary2k2> i'm sure i meant "don't" not "don'r" :p
[10:05] <jimmy_> au  lidi
[10:05] <jimmy_> je tu nkdo z ech
[10:05] <jimmy_> ?
[10:06] <binary2k2> !cz | jimmy_
[10:06] <ubotu> jimmy_: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz.  I have deleted my xorg.conf file by mistake!
[10:21] <jimmy_> kick ass ubuntu_
[10:22] <max_> binary2k2: i put my xorg back to what i use to be, so it dosnbt have the things i added to it from that tut....still want me to pastebin it?
[10:22] <musya> how do you uninstall apps?
[10:22] <spawn57> luca: uh oh
[10:22] <musya> like mysql
[10:22] <max_> musya: add remove programs or <sudo apt-get uninstall> in terminal
[10:22] <fdoving> musya: use adept manager. kmenu -> system -> adept manager
[10:22] <spawn57> luca: are you noew to linux? and xorg.conf files?
[10:22] <musya> ah, ok
[10:22] <musya> thanks
[10:22] <binary2k2> max_: if you want I'll post my xorg.conf so you can check it
[10:22] <binary2k2> ?
[10:22] <luca> spawn57: not that new, but enough to make ocmplete dumb things it seems
[10:23] <luca> spawn57: I deleted them using krusader, which means completely eliminated :(
[10:23] <max_> binary2k2: and you have AIGLX going?
[10:23] <spawn57> luca, alright then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and you shuold be able to make a new one
[10:23] <binary2k2> max_: yes
[10:23] <max_> yes please
[10:23] <eloquence_> can sum1 help with this: http://pastebin.ca/273984 >> installing ipw3945 for my laptop
[10:23] <luca> spawn57: problem is, I am using nvidia drivers - and do not tell me to install xorg please! I tried some hours ago and destroyed my gui :(
[10:24] <spawn57> luca: it'll just ask you the usual questions, screen resolution, driver, modules, most of the defaults will be alright
[10:24] <musya> in terminal it says uninstall is an invalid operation
[10:24] <spawn57> luca: I am too, how'd you destroy you gui using nvidia drivers, if it's installed then you should see an nvidia option there..
[10:24] <fdoving> musya: 'sudo apt-get remove package'
[10:25] <musya> ettore__: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:25] <musya> i get that error
[10:25] <spawn57> luca: i could e-mail my xorg.conf, it should work for you fine..
[10:25] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | musya
[10:25] <ubotu> musya: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:25] <luca> spawn57: I do not have my xorg drivers installed....
[10:25] <luca> spawn57: hat would really help!
[10:25] <spawn57> alright
[10:26] <luca> just one sec..
[10:26] <fdoving> musya: you can first check that you've closed adept manager, you can't have that running while trying to uninstall things with apt-get from the commandline.
[10:26] <luca><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:26] <spawn57> my config has the proprietary nividia driver though ..
[10:26] <musya> ok ill retry
[10:26] <luca> thanks a lot!
[10:26] <binary2k2> max_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36222/ my xorg.conf
[10:26] <luca> spawn57: mine too
[10:26] <max_> thanks binary
[10:27] <spawn57> k one sec
[10:27] <luca> spawn57: actually this all originated from the fact that some applications (e.g. googleearth) would say in terminal that xlib is broken and that gxl is not found...
[10:27] <luca> spawn57: thanks!
[10:27] <spawn57> oh
[10:27] <spawn57> i havent' tried that on linux yet
[10:27] <ademan>  hey in the installer my friend had the mount point for another partition be /data he went into fstab and changed it to /media/data and rebooted but it's not mounting to /media/data
[10:28] <max_> binary2k2: im going to edit mine, when im done will you take a look at it and make sure im correct?
[10:28] <binary2k2> max_: yeah
[10:29] <max_> binary2k2: thanks, just a seconf
[10:29] <max_> d
[10:29] <spawn57> anyone having trouble with kopete not saving the passwords to kwallet? evertyime I reboot I have to type in my kopete passwords again to logon ..
[10:29] <binary2k2> spawn57: kopete works with kwallet for me (edgy)
[10:29] <spawn57> binary2k2: even after you reboot/restart X?
[10:29] <musya> spawn57: i cant even get in to my kwallet
[10:30] <musya> wont allow me too
[10:30] <spawn57> luca: sent
[10:30] <spawn57> musya: werid..
[10:30] <spawn57> I can get into kwallet fine, add all the passwords I want from any app