[09:36] <blackheart> it gives me an error message
[09:36] <riaal> So, Im running ubuntu now, Install windowsxp on a ntfs partion, run "live cd" and reinstall grub. then boot linux and add windows to the conf file of grup? is this the way to install winxp after ubuntu?
[09:36] <|thunder> heres a brain stunner, what would cause my screensaver(set to blank) to use 100% of my CPU ? no distributed computing action, and beagle only takes so long to index. I can leave for 12 hrs and it still is maxxd. how?
[09:36] <l90bpm> is something in the drive?
[09:36] <|thunder> riaal; yep
[09:36] <Dante123> sethk.....any ideas on how to get this usb to work  (thanks in advance)
[09:37] <l90bpm> oops.. thought it was an optical drive.. my bad
[09:37] <riaal> |thunder, live cd is what I installed ubntu whit in the first place?
[09:37] <blackheart> My drives are full with junk  ^^
[09:37] <jvolkman> |thunder, I have that problem too
[09:37] <merc> im doing a dist upgrade (via update-manager -c -d), and it's stuck on 'configuring libgstreamer' step, what should i do? (or what is safe?)
[09:37] <Slart> |thunder: hmm.. not running hardware accelerated graphics perhaps?
[09:37] <sethk> Dante123, I'm looking ... you need usb-storage, and a second one I'm still looking for
[09:37] <Kazz> Can anyone tell me what the best way is to move the root filesystem ( / ) to a new partition?
[09:37] <|thunder> slart, i am, nvidia with latest drivers.
[09:37] <Slart> |thunder: hmm.. weird.. what screensaver?
[09:38] <Dante123> thanks sethk......not trying to be impatient......
[09:38] <sethk> Dante123, maybe you don't need the additional one any more.  Do lsmod to see if usb-storage is loaded.  If not, do modprobe usb-storage.  Usually, though, it would be loaded automatically when the device is connected to the usb bus.
[09:38] <bafoc> Kazz: yes, reinstall to that partition
[09:38] <Slart> |thunder: I'll give it a try and see how much cpu it uses for me
[09:38] <Slart> |thunder: if you have 2 boxes you could always ssh from the other one and use htop or something to see if it's really the screensaver being busy
[09:38] <riaal> |thunder, ?
[09:38] <|thunder> Slart; thanks
[09:39] <Kazz> bafoc: I don't think that is an option because it is an EVMS/LVM/RAID partition and I don't think the live CD will even recognize it.
[09:39] <|thunder> Slart; riaal i only have one box here. or i would have done that
[09:39] <sethk> Kazz, you would have to insert modules into the running kernel, but once you do that the live cd will see it.
[09:39] <Kazz> I know it's possible to move it, but every place I see seems to give a different way of copying the files to the new partition, and I don't know which is the best way.
[09:40] <Noah0504> Hello all.
[09:40] <Slart> |thunder: what screensaver are you running?
[09:40] <Mus|work> Anyone use a Neomagic videocard on their laptops? id like to know where i can get the latest drivers for this card in ubuntu
[09:40] <Dante123> I ran lsmod...and this came up....as one entry......usbcore               134912  6 usb_storage,libusual,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[09:40] <Dante123> does that look right?
[09:40] <|thunder> Slart; blank
[09:40] <Tchaka> hi everyone!
[09:40] <riaal> Is "live cd" what I installed ubuntu whit if the first place? A bootable install cd?
[09:40] <Noah0504> riaal: Yes.
[09:40] <Kazz> sethk: Well, maybe I'll try that then, but I'd rather just move what I have if I can, so I wouldn't have to download a lot of updates again.
[09:41] <bluecode> sethk, apt-get says that there is no development-essential paket
[09:41] <sethk> Dante123, yes.  the additional modules listed just means that they have dependencies on one another
[09:41] <Kazz> sethk: Do you know exactly which modules I'd have to load?
[09:41] <riaal> Noah0504, thanks
[09:41] <lderan> heya all :)
[09:41] <Kazz> riaal: Yes, the live CD is probably what you installed from.
[09:41] <sethk> bluecode, double check the spelling, because I just installed it an hour ago.
[09:41] <|thunder> Kazz; buil-essencial
[09:41] <|thunder> buiold
[09:41] <|thunder> argh
[09:41] <|thunder> build
[09:42] <Kazz> |thunder: ...that's a kernel module?
[09:42] <Slart> |thunder: well.. that's as not cpu intensive as it gets =)... it's not some other software doing something when the computer is idle? some indexing? something else?
[09:42] <sethk> bluecode, sorry, I have to check MY spelling
[09:42] <mithya> Hello everyone, I am having problems running the Live CD.  I can get it to boot up to the point after I press enter on Install/Run Ubuntu, then it runs for a short while with the bar moving left and right and locks up.  I cannot eject the CD nor restart my computer without a cold boot.  Any ideas?  Is this common?
[09:42] <sethk> bluecode, it's build-essential.   sorry about that.
[09:42] <Dante123> okay seth....so it seems to be there...now here is the next trick
[09:42] <Kazz> Okay, you were talking to someone else...heh. :)
[09:42] <sethk> Kazz, no, I don't know the modules names off the top of my head.  Can you do an lsmod on a box that sees the devices?
[09:42] <Mus|work> Anyone use a Neomagic videocard on their laptops? id like to know where i can get the latest drivers for this card in ubuntu
[09:42] <erichj> mithya: did you check cd integrity?
[09:43] <riaal> Kazz, "Ubuntu Edgy-386 Alternate"
[09:43] <riaal> ?
[09:43] <Dante123> this floppy is an 800k (double density) mac disk......there is some command to get linux to read such floppies.....but I don't know what it is....any ideas?
[09:43] <bluecode> sethk, nevermind :)
[09:43] <|thunder> Slart; im sure i have nothing that runs behind the screensaver, its mind boggling
[09:43] <POVaddct> Dante123: old macintosh formatted disks can't be read by pc floppy drives
[09:43] <sethk> Dante123, you need support for mac file systems in the kernel.  you probably have to modprobe the driver for the file system(s)
[09:44] <POVaddct> Dante123: it is a physically different format
[09:44] <Slart> |thunder: it's not some kind of sleep mode where the computer is lowering the frequency of the cpu?
[09:44] <sethk> POVaddct, how old?  The new ones work, I know
[09:44] <POVaddct> sethk: i'm afraid that is not a matter of filesystem only
[09:44] <Slart> |thunder: that would give you a higher load if you count percentages
[09:44] <mithya> erichj: I had a similar problem with the running of the downloaded ISO image, so I ordered the Live CD directly from Ubuntu.
[09:44] <POVaddct> sethk: 800k disk sounds very old
[09:44] <|thunder> Slart; nope, my speeds are displayed right on the front of my case
[09:44] <sethk> POVaddct, ok.  I never really used apple stuff before osx
[09:45] <bigcx2> hey all
[09:45] <mithya> erichj: and am now running from the Live CD that they provided me via the mail.
[09:45] <beni> what is the command to show the OS information like version etc?
[09:45] <Dante123> guys...this IS a mac usb floppy drive
[09:45] <bigcx2> has anyone gotten vncserver to work under edgy???
[09:45] <_Jaak_> "chmod +x filename" should make a file executable right?
[09:45] <mithya> erichj: or rather, trying to run it :D
[09:45] <beni> _Jaak_: yes
[09:45] <|thunder> Slart; no cpu scaling. i think ssh'n in would be the only option.
[09:45] <Slart> |thunder: ok.. last idea then.. a broken power save module in ubuntu.. that somehow just loops around when it's supposed to calm down
[09:45] <erichj> mithya: well i can tell  you that none of the cd's i was sent by shipit worked for me
[09:45] <_Jaak_> beni. why doesnt it work then?
[09:45] <mweichert> when I attempt to connect to a samba share on a windows domain using nautilus, I am asked for my credentials - but the workgroup defaults to "WORKGROUP" - how do I change that?
[09:45] <Dante123> and there is a command...some guy in here told me before...but I forget the syntax.....something like -t hfs or something like that
[09:45] <erichj> i just burned my own
[09:45] <mithya> erichj: ok I will run the CD check, thanks
[09:46] <POVaddct> sethk: old mac floppies are like native amiga floppies. pc floppy drives don't use variable drive speed and such things
[09:46] <erichj> welcome
[09:46] <bluecode> sethk, that did the job, thank you very much :)
[09:46] <Kazz> sethk: Yeah, I guess I'll just have to save a list of what's loaded and try to load all of them if I can't remember which are necessary.
[09:46] <bigcx2> when i run vncserver i get: xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name "darter:1" in "add" command
[09:46] <Slart> |thunder: or something that took repeated snapshots of cpu acitivity.. perhaps a bash script with some top magic?
[09:46] <beni> _Jaak_: or just "sh yourfile.sh"
[09:46] <beni> both should work
[09:46] <sethk> Kazz, hopefully it will be easy to see which ones you care about, because they have dependencies on each other.
[09:46] <Dante123> it is old.....but I need the data on that darn thing.....
[09:46] <beni> what is the command to show my ubuntu version?
[09:47] <Kazz> sethk: I'd really rather just move the filesystem though and not go through the install and all the updates again (I'm using Feisty)...I'll try again to figure out how to copy it right first.
[09:47] <Death_Sargent> I acidentally made my sudoers file read only to root how can i fix this
[09:47] <_Jaak_> if i do "sudo chmod +x myfile" and go check the files permissions by rightclicking it properties->rights... it doesn't say it's executable
[09:47] <POVaddct> Dante123: like i said its not a matter of file system. the pc drive cannot physically read it. different magnetic storage method.
[09:47] <eilker>   i type // # !bin/sh  (then second line) sudo reboot // and chmod +x reboot.sh in console. after all double click to reboot.sh no sense ? what is wrong ?
[09:47] <|thunder> Slart; i'll have to look through my run levels and chack for anything that does not belong, as well as my gnome startups
[09:47] <beni> _Jaak_: dont do sudo
[09:47] <beni> just chmod +x
[09:47] <linux1> hiya ppl i keep getting this error when i try to run git  /usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied.   any idea whats up
[09:47] <erichj> death: log as root and chmod it
[09:47] <|thunder> Slart; thanks for the ideas though, much appreciated.
[09:47] <Death_Sargent> I acidentally made my sudoers file read only to root how can i fix this
[09:47] <erichj> death: log as root and chmod it
[09:47] <Slart> |thunder: you're welcome.. hope you solve it
[09:47] <Death_Sargent> what is the chmod settings
[09:48] <Death_Sargent> ###
[09:48] <erichj> or chown
[09:48] <|thunder> lol
[09:48] <bafoc> chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[09:48] <erichj> chown to admin group
[09:49] <mweichert> after the default install of ubuntu, how do you change what samba workgroup you are a "member" of?
[09:49] <bigcx2> has anyone succesfully run vncserver under ubuntu in here????
[09:49] <mweichert> if I try to connect to a share, I see that "workgroup" is the default
[09:49] <Death_Sargent> still not working
[09:49] <mhall53> whats the command to install kubuntu
[09:49] <halino> hello
[09:49] <Dante123> POVaddct.....I don't mean to contradict you.....but another person in here gave me a command to use...and it actually partially worked.....there was an error...but the problem was due to where ubuntu has media versys dev/mnt/floppy or something like that....
[09:49] <apokryphos> mhall53: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.
[09:49] <Death_Sargent> i tried it and it still is not working
[09:49] <bafoc> Death_Sargent: what's the error
[09:49] <halino> I have a controller connected through USB
[09:50] <erichj> mhall: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <halino> how can I check if it works properly=?
[09:50] <Death_Sargent> gedit sais it can not open the display
[09:50] <POVaddct> Dante123: is your floppy drive usb?
[09:50] <bafoc> Death_Sargent: are you root?
[09:50] <eilker>   i type // # !bin/sh  (then second line) sudo reboot // and chmod +x reboot.sh in console. after all , double click to reboot.sh no sense ? what is wrong ?
[09:50] <Death_Sargent> no i am using a root terminal
[09:51] <Death_Sargent> never mind it worked
[09:51] <Death_Sargent> shitty terminal window
[09:51] <Death_Sargent> thanks all
[09:52] <|thunder> netsplit, whew
[09:52] <Slart> |thunder: top -b will just output the process list... if I were you I'd do a "top -b -n 30 -d 1 | less", put the computer to sleep..wake it up after 10-15 secs and see what happened
[09:52] <Ash-Fox> For those of you who are having problems with Wine's official repository for edgy (bad dependency issues). I have fixed the package myself and uploaded it to my own repository, you can add my repository via: sudo bash -c 'echo deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/ >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:53] <|thunder> slart, brilliant
[09:53] <Dante123> yes, it is a usb floppy (originally made for mac but works under windows xp)
[09:53] <mweichert> how do I configure the samba client in Ubuntu?
[09:54] <RolandB1> hello, is any doc howto update from dapper to edgy please.
[09:55] <erichj> check the ubuntu wiki
[09:55] <posingaspopular> !update
[09:55] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:55] <Slart> |thunder: hmm... adding a -i to that top line makes it ignore idle processes.. shortens the list quite a bit
[09:55] <g0ng> can somebody help with ATI drivers and xorg?
[09:57] <POVaddct> Dante123: aha. if it was made for mac, chances are good it actually can read the floppy
[09:57] <Mus|work> This is funny :) i have a neomagic video card in this laptop - yet my xorg.conf file says its a S3 Savage card... Hmm?
[09:57] <nhy> If I install Linux on a computer with two partitions (one has Windows and one is blank) will it automatically create a dual booting environment ?
[09:57] <POVaddct> Dante123: is it plugged in right now?
[09:57] <l90bpm> hey pollywog, did you see within the settings of beryl where you could enable a crash handler?
[09:58] <janga> nhy , yes
[09:58] <waxyfresh> whats the normal speed of dsl?
[09:58] <l90bpm> about 1.5 megs here
[09:58] <beni> waxyfresh: depends on the connection type^^
[09:58] <l90bpm> that is not what we have
[09:58] <nhy> thanks
[09:58] <beni> waxyfresh: we got 1mbit here
[09:58] <Slart> waxyfresh: anything from 0.5 mbit to 30-ish ?
[09:58] <Giotto> hi all. how do i suggest ubuntu6,10 with the gnome-gui on a "maxtor 450G" to accept 2 connected 19"-crt-screens as one big and not as clones each other? Ive tried the ubuntu documentation and to google for "twinview ubuntu" and "two screens ubuntu one card" but found nothing helpful.
[09:58] <beni> Slart: at least 1 mbit
[09:59] <l90bpm> but that is through embarq
[09:59] <waxyfresh> would the fact that i have OLD wireing in my hose slow it down?
[09:59] <Slart> beni: why? I've seen dsl solutions with 0.25 Mbit
[09:59] <l90bpm> I have charter's 10 meg cuz I really do love my puter'
[09:59] <whtvrrob> hey all
[09:59] <nhy> and is there any chance of losing the information on the Windows partition if I format that blank partition for Linux?
[09:59] <beni> Slart: really? here in europe (germany) DSL means at least 1024 kb/s
[09:59] <harry_> can I get an RSS/Atom reader in a GNOME bar?
[09:59] <nhy> Do I need to back up?
[09:59] <l90bpm> wow, must be nice'
[09:59] <eV_64> umm, you should always have backups anways
[10:00] <waxyfresh> would the fact that i have OLD wireing in my house slow my dsl speed down?
[10:00] <eV_64> hard drives dont last forever
[10:00] <nhy> its not my computer
[10:00] <nhy> its a friends
[10:00] <eV_64> yes, dsl speed can be dependent on line quality
[10:00] <beni> waxyfresh: no
[10:00] <erichj> i have 5mb through embarq here in missouri
[10:00] <l90bpm> I knew it varied, just had no idea to what degree
[10:00] <Slart> beni: oh? no such thing in sweden.. I'm pretty sure dsl only determines how the connection is made.. we talk about broadband and some government agency once said that broadband has to be >2Mbit
[10:00] <whtvrrob> nhy as long as you do it properly, while there is a slim margin whenever working on those things, it shouldn't do anything, but as eV_64 says, you should have backups, or your friend should, but i've formatted it for linux multiple times without any loss ever
[10:00] <beni> waxyfresh: in case it isnt older than 100 years :>
[10:00] <nhy> he's concerned about windows genuin advantage
[10:00] <waxyfresh> eV_64: even if the line is only 100 feet long?
[10:00] <Zambezi> Anyone with UPS to Ubuntu and know which one work easily?
[10:00] <eV_64> if you have old phone wires, or wires running near electrical lines, flourescent lights, etc move them
[10:00] <waxyfresh> oh
[10:00] <eV_64> 100ft long from where?
[10:00] <bafoc> Death_Sargent: you can't run programs as root (X programs) while logged in as a normal user unless at a terminal you run xhost + as the normal user then su in that same terminal
[10:01] <eV_64> the box on the side of your house?
[10:01] <l90bpm> I live in Bristol, TN  we don't have much but a race track
[10:01] <beni> Slart: okay i get you point, here in germany DSL is advertised beginning at 1mbit
[10:01] <bafoc> Death_Sargent: sorry for the late reply.... got caught up with the boss man
[10:01] <eV_64> it's probably OK, make sure you have the dsl filters on your phones though
[10:01] <janga> nhy, the partitioning program in the ubuntu installer is easy to understand, as long as you dont format the win partition, everything will be ok.
[10:01] <Sophistication> Zambezi: APC via USB
[10:01] <eV_64> all phones, faxes, modems, etc
[10:01] <ferronica> when i installed Azureus via terminal along with it Mozillia installed what i do???
[10:02] <l90bpm> anyway.. just came back to say that crash handler might be a good thing in beryl
[10:02] <waxyfresh> eV_64: my computer to the wall to the box(never even seen a phone box like it its so old)to teh pole
[10:02] <ferronica> i mean mozilla browswer which i dont use
[10:02] <sethk> ferronica, why do you think you have to do something?
[10:02] <Slart> beni: hmrpf.. I wish they'd just get together and agree about these things.. would be easier for everyone
[10:02] <eV_64> are you asking because it's really slow?
[10:02] <Zambezi> Sophistication, Do you know if it works on a server without X?
[10:02] <POVaddct> Dante123: did i overlook your reply? please prepend it with  POVaddct: so my client hilights it
[10:02] <beni> Slart: yep ...
[10:02] <whtvrrob> ferronica, i agree with sethk, just use it as is, someone may want to use it sometime, or you may
[10:02] <ferronica> sethk: i dont want mozilla, i didnt give command to install mozilla
[10:03] <Sophistication> Zambezi: if you have power management modules loaded sure
[10:03] <sethk> ferronica, it's a dependency.  the package manager installs things that you need to run the thing that you specified
[10:03] <nhy> One last question. He has an amd 64. Just out of curiosity, can he run programs built for i386
[10:03] <Slart> nhy: yes.
[10:03] <eV_64> yup
[10:03] <Trini_Man> hi
[10:03] <eV_64> hi
[10:03] <bafoc> hi
[10:03] <Sophistication> hi
[10:03] <Trini_Man> does anyone know a GUI subversion Application ?
[10:03] <nhy> but amd 64 will be faster?
[10:03] <alexfox> when i type fglrxinfo in a terminal window i get Error: unable to open display :0 anyone know how to fix this error or where i can find more information on the error
[10:03] <erichj> nhy: some are hard to get running though
[10:04] <Slart> nhy: I have an AMD 64 bit dual.. running ubuntu 64 bit and running 32 bit wine compiled for i386
[10:04] <Trini_Man> Client
[10:04] <eV_64> probs
[10:04] <RolandB1> hey should I update from dapper to edgy ?
[10:04] <l90bpm> yeah, my acer is a turion 64 but it has all 32 bit on it
[10:04] <fdan4896> Hello all!
[10:04] <sethk> RolandB1, no
[10:04] <ferronica> sethk: sudo apt-get install azureus i gave this command only
[10:04] <bafoc> TortisSVN
[10:04] <eV_64> hi hi hi
[10:04] <ferronica> sethk:
[10:04] <Zambezi> Sophistication, Sounds great. Thanks! Now I just have to decide if it's worth it, but I think it is. I have 500W PSU, but 400W should be fine.
[10:04] <sethk> ferronica, yes, and?
[10:04] <ucordes> is there something in the repositories for cutting mpg4 videos?
[10:04] <nhy> are amd 64 compiled programs faster?
[10:04] <sethk> ferronica, the package manager installs things needed by what you told it to install
[10:04] <RolandB1> sethk : why? can you say it in 2-3 words ?
[10:04] <Trini_Man> hi does anyone know if a GUI  Subversion Client ? for Gnome ?
[10:04] <sethk> nhy, marginally
[10:04] <ferronica> sethk: it installed mozilla tooooo
[10:04] <sp0ro> Anyone around that can walk me through on how to uninstall ATI fglrx drivers and install the open source ATI drivers?I tried  rpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before I installed the fglrx drivers, but they never installed correctly.
[10:05] <nhy> thanks everyone. Ubuntu just go another user
[10:05] <ferronica> sethk: can i uninstall it
[10:05] <Marupa> Is there any media player that has a split library/playlist view?  (Such as http://files.myopera.com/Adrianox/blog/virtual%20Dj.JPG  on the bottom)
[10:05] <nhy> *got
[10:05] <sethk> ferronica, yes, of course.  that's what I've told you, now for the fourth time.  It is _supposed_ to do that.
[10:05] <ferronica> sethk: sudo apt-get remove mozilla
[10:05] <derrik> how does ubuntu create the file name for the thumbnails in ~./thumbnails/normal ?
[10:05] <Sophistication> Zambezi: anything over 500$ is nice to have via a power backup you would be amazed at the brown power & spikes that go through pc without one
[10:05] <sethk> ferronica, only if you want the thing you installed to stop working
[10:05] <Trini_Man> hi does anyone know if a GUI  Subversion Client ? for Gnome ?
[10:05] <ferronica> sethk: Recommended packages:  java-package libswt3.1-gtk-gcj mozilla-psm
[10:05] <sethk> ferronica, yes, and?
[10:06] <bafoc> Trini_Man: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/
[10:06] <eV_64> http://jsvn.alternatecomputing.com/ ?
[10:06] <erichj> trini_man: yes - applications->add/remove  should be  under utils
[10:06] <Trini_Man> ok thanks i wil look
[10:06] <ferronica> sethk: shows me up before installing, if i remove mozilla will azureus work
[10:06] <bafoc> eV_64: eww, java svn client :-
[10:06] <manopulus> hello, i need help ;) i installed dapper, it is clean install, and now i want to upgrade to edgy.... well, but sudo command does not work, it asking for a root password, whch is dummy and i cannot follow any command, even to change apt.conf
[10:06] <neo_> hi
[10:06] <ucordes> !video
[10:06] <bafoc> eV_64: j/k
[10:06] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:06] <eV_64> lol, first google result
[10:06] <eV_64> i've never used it
[10:06] <bafoc> eV_64: hehe
[10:07] <sethk> ferronica, probably not.  It's installed because azureus has a dependency on it.
[10:07] <sp0ro> Anyone around that can walk me through on how to uninstall ATI fglrx drivers and install the open source ATI drivers?I tried  rpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before I installed the fglrx drivers, but they never installed correctly.
[10:07] <Slart> manopulus: it doesn't ask for a root password.. it asks for your user password
[10:07] <eV_64> how do i make it show your nick first ie eV64:****
[10:07] <erichj> manopulus: sudo password is your password
[10:07] <bafoc> eV_64: me either, I really don't like java apps :-)
[10:07] <eV_64> do you type it?
[10:07] <ferronica> sethk: that what i wanna to know.
[10:07] <priich> So i installed this adsl modem/switch/bridge/NAT thingiemabob and set it in bridged mode. Now i can't find it. Is there any command to do network discovery to find out what ip address it has ? (and no googling gave only bad leads and the ip addy in the manual doesn't do it.)   Maybe some broadcast ping or something ?
[10:07] <manopulus> erichj: thanks
[10:07] <neo_> hi i got a question i stopped apache (dum thing to do but how do i start it?)????
[10:07] <shane634> sp0ro, yep i can help
[10:07] <eV_64> apache2 up
[10:07] <neo_> apache2
[10:07] <neo_> yes
[10:07] <ferronica> sethk: because i use firefox not mozilla
[10:07] <bafoc> neo_ /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:07] <neo_> but its shutdown
[10:07] <sethk> ferronica, either you need it, or the dependency info in the package is wrong.  The former is much more likely thatn the latter
[10:07] <Slart> neo_ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start perhaps?
[10:07] <neo_> thanxs :)
[10:07] <pentarim> does anyone know a repository where i could get php 5.1.2?
[10:08] <bafoc> neo_ : sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:08] <neo_> you to
[10:08] <neo_> i'l try
[10:08] <sethk> ferronica, I use firefox also.  Having mozilla installed on the machine doesn't cause any problems.
[10:08] <whtvrrob> also, if you don't know the root password, sudo passwd is your friend to change it
[10:08] <preaction> priich: bridged mode implies that it HAS no IP address. anything that goes in on one port goes out on another port unmolested
[10:08] <erichj> pentarim: multiverse has it i believe
[10:08] <ferronica> sethk: can i try to remove mozilla
[10:08] <neo_> ty
[10:08] <neo_> neo@x4fs:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[10:08] <neo_> Password:
[10:08] <neo_>  * Starting web server (Apache2)...                                      [ ok ]
[10:08] <neo_> neo@x4fs:~$
[10:08] <alexfox> http://www.ubuntuguide.org is very useful
[10:08] <neo_> :)
[10:08] <Zambezi> Sophistication, The problem is I want one for two computer, preferable four, but then it's going to be too expensive.
[10:08] <preaction> you should never need a root password. use sudo -s; or sudo su -
[10:08] <RolandB1> sethk : I've saw on edgy some gui for installing ati drivers... can it be installed that on dapper? ( ubuntu-restricted-..)
[10:08] <sethk> ferronica, sure, you can try.  if az stops working, you can reinstall it.
[10:09] <trond> Is it possible to test if tightvnc works from the same computer as the server is running?
[10:09] <sethk> RolandB1, I haven't tried, so I'm not sure.  I'd guess yes, but it's just a guess.
[10:09] <ferronica> sethk: okay
[10:09] <Sophistication> Zambezi: not really I have a APC rated at 765 watts & I have a Mac Pro with a 600 watt ps jacked in the power unit is only using around 175 during normal use
[10:09] <sp0ro> shane634: Ok, first things first. How do I go about completely uninstalling the fglrx drivers?
[10:09] <whtvrrob> preaction, i just like to have it just in case, but of course it's a secure password that's not written down anywhere, it's one of those things, always nice to have the root password
[10:09] <trond> i.e. can I launch vncviewer and connect to the server directly from my computer or do I have to do that externally?
[10:09] <whtvrrob> at least to me
[10:09] <bafoc> trond: no, unless you start another X manager on a different Display like :1 ( the default is :0)
[10:09] <Sophistication> Zambezi: you could get a rated unit around 700ish & jack like 3 or 4 into it if you do the math & don't use sleep
[10:10] <preaction> trond: vncviewer localhost; <- yes
[10:10] <trond> aha
[10:10] <shane634> sp0ro, right click my name and click dialog
[10:10] <Sophistication> Zambezi: sleep is a killer for realla
[10:10] <Giotto> how do i suggest ubuntu6,10 with the gnome-gui on a "maxtor 450G" to accept 2 connected 19"-crt-screens as one big and not as clones each other? Ive tried the ubuntu documentation and to google for "twinview ubuntu" and "two screens ubuntu one card" but found nothing helpful.
[10:10] <bafoc> preaction: really? wow, never tried that. :-)
[10:10] <Marupa> So does anyone know of a media player that does that?
[10:10] <trond>  shutdown
 ferronica, either you need it, or the dependency info in the package is wrong.  The former is much more likely thatn the latter
 neo_ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start perhaps?
[10:10] <trond> Sorry
[10:10] <sp0ro> shane634: Ok, did you get my message?
[10:10] <Slart> trond: huh?
[10:10] <trond> vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[10:10] <trond> Unable to connect to VNC server
[10:10] <sp0ro> shane634: Ah, sec let me auth :)
[10:11] <sethk> trond, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  If the vnc on the target machine is running, then you launch the client from your machine and connect.  there isn't a third machine involved.
[10:11] <preaction> trond: probably means the server isn't set up properly
[10:11] <trond> That was the thing I wanted to paste. Not very informative
[10:11] <shane634> sp0ro, ok
[10:11] <ferronica> sethk: gettin error
[10:11] <preaction> trond: or you have a firewall blocking the port
[10:11] <eV64> basic IRC question, how do i prefix my message with someone's nick in here?
[10:11] <ferronica> sethk: when i try to remove
[10:11] <pentarim> does anyone know a repository where i could get php 5.1.2? i am googling over 2 hours have  mercy :)
[10:11] <preaction> eV64: type the first few letters and hit the "Tab" key
[10:11] <erichj> you type their name first
[10:11] <eV64> aah cool
[10:11] <Marupa> eV64, if you're on mIRC or xchat, start typing then hit tab.
[10:11] <ferronica> sethk: Package mozilla is not installed, so not removed
[10:11] <ferronica> E: Couldn't find package web
[10:11] <trond> Sethk: I am running a vnc server at a single computer (computer 1) can I access the server with vncviewer from Computer 1? :)
[10:11] <eV64> preaction: cool
[10:11] <Zambezi> Sophistication, I saw one now for 3000 SEK (about 425 USD). That one would be awesome, but acctually I just need for three, maybe, but probably three.
[10:12] <qwehnce> after completing the latest kernel updates for feisty, my sound does not work
[10:12] <dougie> alright i have this problem where somtimes when my screen saver is comming on its like my video card turns off my screen just turns solid black or white..i thought it was a problem with my video card over heating but i just fixed that problem and it still happens
[10:12] <IndyGunFreak> erichj: you don't need to type their whole name
[10:12] <eV64> preaction: thanks
[10:12] <POVaddct> eV64: most clients allow the TAB key to complete nicknames
[10:12] <preaction> qwehnce: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[10:12] <sp0ro> shane634: Did you get my message?
[10:12] <erichj> IndyGunFreak:  yeah i know
[10:12] <sethk> trond, you want to run vnc client and vnc server on the same machine and have them talk to each other?  Why?
[10:12] <trond> preaction: hmm, I don't have a personal firewall maybe something my ISP is doing?
[10:12] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[10:12] <meme-1> Anyone out there familiar with Amaya (version 9.51). It starts up for about 1 second and disappears in ubuntu.
[10:12] <fdan4896> I am new to Ubuntu and Linux. Just put 6.1 (Edgy?) Desktop on one PC and the server version on another PC.
[10:12] <eV64> preaction: is xchat the best irc client on edgy, cause i've already crashed it a few times
[10:12] <preaction> trond: it never gets to your ISP
[10:12] <Sophistication> Zambezi: the 3 you have have what type of CPU & Ram & Power supplys & Hard Drives & any raid?
[10:12] <preaction> trond: localhost is localhost
[10:12] <erichj> eV64: i use Konversation
[10:12] <POVaddct> eV64: i like irssi
[10:12] <meme-1> preaction: What about Konversation?
[10:12] <trond> Sethk; In order to test if it works. Of course I intend to use it from other computers :)
[10:13] <fdan4896> Any reason not to run a GUI on a server? If not a problem, which is best for server, Gnome or KDE?
[10:13] <meme-1> That is what I am using
[10:13] <POVaddct> eV64: irssi is text based though
[10:13] <Zambezi> Sophistication, Can we continue in PM? It's easier to follow.
[10:13] <sethk> trond, I've never tried doing it that way, and I would be extremely surprised if it works.
[10:13] <trond> But just to test if the server is setup correct (which it is not)
[10:13] <erichj> fdan4896: GUI hogs resources on a server
[10:13] <eV64> text based still scares me
[10:13] <trond> Sethk: ok
[10:13] <Sophistication> Zambezi: only if you bring beer ;P
[10:13] <bafoc> pentarim: you may want to look at this - http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Apache_and_PHP
[10:13] <trond> preaction:hmm that indicates that the server is not setup correct hmm
[10:13] <shane634> sp0ro,  are you in private now?
[10:14] <Helmi> hmm is there a way to mount or  extract an img-image?
[10:14] <chainsawdude> i can connect to secure https:// websites on my laptop using ubuntu but not normal http:// ones, any idea why this is?
[10:14] <POVaddct> eV64: text tools are very powerful. and running things in screen(1) is even more powerful :]
[10:14] <sp0ro> shane634: Yes, I sent you a message
[10:14] <fdan4896> erichj: thanks. that was my best guess, but I am still feeling my way through the text based commands. Have done in it DOS years ago, but never extensively in Unix or Linux.
[10:14] <bafoc> Helmi: all depends on what type of image your talking about
[10:14] <POVaddct> fdan4896: you can't compare DOS to the unix command line
[10:14] <Helmi> bafoc: don't know how it was made - just see the ending *.img
[10:15] <bafoc> Helmi: what's the file name?
[10:15] <slvmchn> which desktop is the most efficient between fluxbuntu and xubuntu
[10:15] <bafoc> Helmi: some .img files are for Mac
[10:15] <eV64> POVaddct: i know, text based is superior, i'm still making the transition
[10:15] <bafoc> Helmi: some are compresses cpio images
[10:15] <dyrne> fdan4896: if you need gui id just install xubuntu instead of gnome or kde.
[10:15] <eilker> is it possible to use last fm in local languages  via amarok ?
[10:15] <bafoc> Helmi: lke the linux kernel
[10:15] <|thunder> Slart; found it! its beagled. it starts even before the screensaver.
[10:15] <sethk> eV64, it's not superior and it's not inferior.  It is better suited to certain conditions, and gui is better suited to others
[10:16] <bafoc> Helmi: oops like not lke
[10:16] <Slart> |thunder: what is beagled?
[10:16] <ferronica> sethk: Package mozilla is not installed, so not removed
[10:16] <ferronica> E: Couldn't find package web
[10:16] <fdan4896> POVaddict: I realize they are not the same, but it is the closest reference I have had except for a brief visit through Unix with  previous company.
[10:16] <Helmi> bafoc: i guess it was made for windows - so shouldn't be one of either
[10:16] <|thunder> Slart; file indexer, like on the mac.
[10:16] <RolandB1> sethk : got some docs howto install the lasted stuffs on ubuntu ? (firefox and casual apl. )
[10:16] <kkerwin> Hi. Any good reccommendations for a wireless antenna to attach to a laptop? I want to extend the laptop's wireless range.
[10:16] <sethk> ferronica, are you sure that it did, in fact, install mozilla?
[10:16] <meme-1> Trying again. lol. Anyone out there familiar with Amaya (version 9.51)? It starts up for about 1 second and disappears in ubuntu. As far as I can tell, Amaya is the best equivalent to Dreamweaver for Windows (HTML/PHP editor w/WYSIWYG)
[10:16] <shane634> sp0ro, you have another chat?
[10:16] <fdan4896> dyrne: does xubuntu install on top of unbuntu server or replace it?
[10:16] <sp0ro> shane634: If you are sending me messages, I cannot see them. Do you have aim or msn by chance?
[10:16] <Slart> |thunder: ah.. well.. doesn't it stop some time?
[10:16] <jrib> kkerwin: pringles can?
[10:16] <benzin> hello new to ubuntu is there a good firewall i could use?
[10:16] <ferronica> sethk: yes
[10:16] <sethk> RolandB1, I don't have to read them anymore so I don't really know.
[10:16] <kkerwin> jrib: Seriously?
[10:16] <eV64> sethk: i think it is superior for function and speed, as long as your very familiar with the system, there is definitely a steeper learning curve
[10:16] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: i agree, cantenna
[10:16] <shane634> sp0ro, msn shane47143
[10:16] <jrib> kkerwin: google "cantenna"
[10:16] <bafoc> Helmi: ok well you can try the following. mkdir /tmp/test, then cd to where your image is and type mount -o loop filename.img /tmp/test
[10:17] <dyrne> fdan4896: it just installs an xserver on top and then xfce4 etc.
[10:17] <|thunder> Slart; you would think so, but it never seems too.
[10:17] <Jeeva> must i mount a .bin file ?
[10:17] <kkerwin> jrib: Ya. I saw it.
[10:17] <ferronica> sethk: mozilla resides in internet options
[10:17] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: www.cantenna.com
[10:17] <Jeeva> because i downloaded java virtual machine bin
[10:17] <|thunder> slart , maybe its not meant to index fat and ntfs parts
[10:17] <kkerwin> whtvrrob and jrib: Anything a little smaller?
[10:17] <Slart> |thunder: hmm.. well... sounds like it's time to find an alternative to beagle then =)...
[10:17] <bafoc> Helmi: also, to try and find out why type of file it is type - file filename.img
[10:17] <eV64> cut it shorter
[10:17] <sethk> eV64, that's muddled thinking.  On a high powered machine the gui client may run just as fast.  What really matters is the overall load on the machine, not the load of any particular program.
[10:17] <eV64> the pringles can
[10:17] <chainsawdude> i can connect to secure https:// websites on my laptop using ubuntu but not normal http:// ones, any idea why this is?
[10:17] <ferronica> sethk: mozilla composer and mozilla web browser
[10:17] <pentarim> bafoc: tnx for info, so there is no repository containing older versions of packages
[10:17] <Fuligin> hello everone, I have a question about a new installation that i did for ubuntu 6.10
[10:17] <fdan4896> dyrne: thanks for the tip. I really want to learn text based as I am sure it is much more resource friendly, but still getting my Linux legs under me.
[10:17] <ferronica> sethk: what is this
[10:17] <Slart> |thunder: mm.. that might be it.. ntfs and linux still aren't very friendly
[10:18] <linuxnewbie756> i need to learn something about port forwarding from a router. where it asks for my ip address, it hasa "192.168.1." already there, and i can enter the last three digits. i went into ifconfig, and where is the last three digits i need to enter? is it inet address or bcast? because both of those start out the same, just with different last 3 digits
[10:18] <bafoc> pentarim: not that i'm aware of
[10:18] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: does your laptop have built in wifi, or an external card
[10:18] <sethk> ferronica, well, you are discovering why I hate package managers.  I'm not sure of the reason in this particular case.
[10:18] <priich> urk. i disconnected. Anyway, so any hints on how to discover a switch on my local network ? (arp? snmp? ping broadcast ? )
[10:18] <posingaspopular> benzin, i duno if anyone answered you, but ubuntu comes with a firewall out of the box, so to speak
[10:18] <|thunder> Slart; guess so, thanks again for the help, now i know the culprit.
[10:18] <posingaspopular> you can get another one if you want....
[10:18] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: Built in. Broadcom card ...
[10:18] <Slart> |thunder: you're welcome
[10:18] <ucordes> linuxnewbie756: eh?
[10:18] <dyrne> fdan4896: well if you do server stuff youll be working in terminal regardless no reason to make it too hard on youself :)
[10:18] <jrib> kkerwin: that's all I know :/
[10:18] <POVaddct> linuxnewbie756: inet address
[10:18] <eV64> moving a mouse always seems slower than typing a word to me
[10:18] <ferronica> sethk: then what u use to install
[10:19] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: I'm wondering if I just need to pick up a high-powered wifi-usb dongle ...
[10:19] <|thunder> Slart; but its really only write support that is iffy, read to index should work flawlessly
[10:19] <Helmi> bafoc: file says "ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data"
[10:19] <bafoc> ev64: I second that :-)
[10:19] <eV64> wireless n has longer range i think
[10:19] <Apocrypha> and more bandwidth
[10:19] <benzin> posingaspopular: thanks do you how I can activate it?
[10:19] <linuxnewbie756> POVaddct, so, does .1 and .100 make any difference
[10:19] <kkerwin> jrib: Thanks for the idea. We'll see, but I might just go that route. Exploring my options. *grin*
[10:19] <sethk> ferronica, when I have problems with the package manager I install from source, however I don't recommend that until you are very familiar with the o/s
[10:19] <IgorSobreira> anybody knows how can i get all the lib to program in C....stdio.h..etc
[10:19] <POVaddct> linuxnewbie756: .1 is different from .100
[10:19] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: i personally haven't had great luck at all with wifi usb dongles i prefer pcmcia
[10:19] <bafoc> Helmi: ok, then do the command above ( mkdir /tmp/test ; mount - o loop nameofyour.img file /tmp/test
[10:19] <eV64> yeah, but for most users, wireless b is fine, everyone has speedbooster because bestbuy/ circuit city reps tell customers it will make their internets faster
[10:19] <linuxnewbie756> POVaddct, thank you.
[10:19] <fdan4896> dyrne: part of the battle I face is I am trying to convince my employer of the advantages of Linux over Windows for future servers. However, if I can't learn it pretty quick and make it useful, I will have a hard time convincing him of its worth.
[10:19] <posingaspopular> benzin, i mean,it's already activated
[10:20] <|thunder> Slart; ok, heres another question for ya. do I need an app to burn video_ts and audio_ts dirs to a dvd ?    shot in the dark.
[10:20] <bafoc> Helmi: This will mount the file. Then you can cd /tmp/test and do an ls to view the contents
[10:20] <Helmi> yeah mount was successfull
[10:20] <posingaspopular> it should just be runningin the background, keeping you safe
[10:20] <ferronica> sethk: now how to uninstall it :(
[10:20] <Helmi> looks great thanks
[10:20] <ucordes> !idva
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idva - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Fuligin> does anyone know how i can enable my artheros based wifi card on a new insall?
[10:20] <bafoc> Helmi: Np
[10:20] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: They still make those? *grin* Well, I have a PCMCIA slot. Any suggestions?
[10:20] <ucordes> !diva
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diva - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Slart> |thunder: I use brasero for all my burning needs.. haven't tried burning movies with it though
[10:20] <POVaddct> linuxnewbie756: btw, this is not linux specific. it is basic ip networking knowledge.
[10:20] <benzin> posingaspopular: i will read the manual :-) thanks
[10:20] <evand> Is there a difference between the server CD and typing "server" at the prompt of the desktop cd?
[10:20] <Slart> |thunder: gnomebaker should work too... not sure.. haven't used it that much
[10:20] <dyrne> Fuligin: try sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)   in case its not already installed
[10:20] <|thunder> Slart; ill install it now.
[10:21] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: i haven't used one in awhile, i just know i like them better, and others i know do as well, so my suggestion is just to ask around online
[10:22] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: Okie dokie. Thanks. Know of any other IRC channels that might be a good place to ask?
[10:22] <EdgEy> does anyone here know of a linux equivalent to DU Meter ? (it monitors amount of data downloaded daily, monthly, etc)
[10:22] <Fuligin> dyrne: when you say unname r u mean exaxtly as you said it or, do i need to put something in that area?
[10:22] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: sorry, i don't, i only use this one, vmware, and linuxmint.com on spotchat
[10:22] <merc> im doing a dist upgrade (via update-manager -c -d), and it's stuck on 'configuring libgstreamer' step, what should i do? (or what is safe?)
[10:22] <crdlb> Fuligin, type it exactly as he did
[10:23] <dyrne> Fuligin: yeah just cut and paste that  $() or `` designates a command  uname -r if you type it by instelf in term will show you what it puts there
[10:23] <wims> how do i find out the UUID of my partitions ?
[10:23] <kkerwin> EdgEy: You could write a script pretty easily to monitor ifconfig ... it reports how much you've d/l'ed since connecting. So, just have it make a running total, I guess ...
[10:23] <erUSUL> wims: run blikid in a terminal
[10:23] <Fuligin> cool, thanks guys i will attempt it and see wut happens, thanks for your help :)
[10:23] <evand> or vol_id
[10:23] <EdgEy> kkerwin, does ifconfig ever rollover
[10:23] <wims> erUSUL,  thanks
[10:23] <erUSUL> wims: blkid*
[10:24] <POVaddct> wims: if they are ext3 filesystem: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/<device>
[10:24] <stifler_> hi
[10:24] <kkerwin> EdgEy: Rollover, I'm not sure what you mean there. But, I believe that everytime you disconnect/reconnect, it's total resets to 0.
[10:24] <wims> erUSUL,  it only shows for my ext3 partitions, what i need it for is my ntfs partitions
[10:25] <kkerwin> EdgEy: So, you would have to check it every once in a while, say, once a minute.
[10:25] <Corsten> Hello. Do I need to install sshd by myself on Ubuntu Server?
[10:25] <EdgEy> kkerwin, ah. perhaps i could make my script detect whether the number is lower than it was before ..
[10:25] <EdgEy> hm.
[10:25] <ucordes> !diva
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diva - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <kkerwin> EdgEy: Indeed.
[10:25] <POVaddct> wims: udev creates /dev/disk/by-uuid/*  try to look there
[10:25] <kkerwin> EdgEy: Best of luck to ya.
[10:25] <EdgEy> do you know of any good resources on bash scripting ? i assume this is what I would be using
[10:25] <EdgEy> :)
[10:25] <kkerwin> whtvrrob: Thanks again for your help. Peace.
[10:26] <whtvrrob> kkerwin: anytime
[10:26] <wims> POVaddct, thanks, found it
[10:26] <kkerwin> EdgEy: Uhm, check google. I don't do anything at all in bash; I almost exclusively use python.
[10:26] <EdgEy> okay :)
[10:26] <Marupa> could someone point me to a howto on how to stream to a shoutcast server?
[10:26] <bafoc> EdgEy - google results (learn bash scripting) http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/Bash-Scripting-Introduction-HOWTO/http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/Bash-Scripting-Introduction-HOWTO/
[10:26] <kkerwin> EdgEy: No prob. Best of luck.
[10:26] <EdgEy> thankyou :)
[10:27] <bafoc> EdgEy: Google is your friend
[10:27] <slvmchn> if i want to run fluxbuntu should i just install ubuntu proper then install fluxbox
[10:27] <bafoc> EdgEy: np
[10:27] <slvmchn> or can i just avoid all the gnome stuff to begin with
[10:27] <EdgEy> bafoc, yes, of course, just wondered if there was any particular page someone would recommend before maybe finding a complicated guide :)
[10:27] <erUSUL> EdgEy: search fo "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide"
[10:27] <EdgEy> i will read up
[10:27] <|thunder> Marupa; most folks stream FROM a shoutcast server.
[10:27] <erUSUL> for*
[10:27] <whtvrrob> well i'm out for dinner
[10:27] <whtvrrob> talk to y'all later
[10:27] <Marupa> I'm a semi-dj  :P
[10:28] <slvmchn> or is xfce on par with fluxbox for lightweight desktop
[10:28] <bafoc> EdgEy: hmm, no not really. You could look at the startup scripts for ubuntu, those are bash scripts :-)
[10:28] <crdlb> slvmchn, not as light
[10:28] <Marupa> so I'd like to stream to, so I can give people my music :P
[10:28] <POVaddct> slvmchn: xfce is more like a desktop environment, fluxbox is just a window manager
[10:29] <POVaddct> slvmchn: so xfce's memory footprint is bigger
[10:29] <bafoc> Marupa: from a webserver?
[10:29] <Marupa> from linux to a shoutcast server.
[10:29] <mithya> Hello Everyone, I am having problems running the Live CD of Ubuntu 1.10, I have checked the integrity of the CD that I recieved via mail delivery, it is fine.  The disc loads up, I select Run/Install Ubuntu, it begins to run for a short while, then everything halts, nothing more.  It will not load, any ideas?
[10:30] <Marupa> I've heard of darkice, but I could never get it to work.
[10:30] <bafoc> Marupa: try icecast
[10:30] <Oswy> Hey, can someone help me?
[10:30] <bafoc> !questions > Oswy
[10:30] <Oswy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu through GRUB from Windows.
[10:31] <POVaddct> mithya: how much ram does your machine have?
[10:31] <Marupa> that can take a shunt from /dev/dsp, bafoc?
[10:31] <bafoc> Owsy: just boot your ubuntu cd
[10:31] <Oswy> Didn't work.
[10:31] <Oswy> Long story.
[10:31] <eV_64> boot to cd?
[10:31] <Oswy> Anyway, I got the following error message.
[10:31] <bafoc> Marupa: not sure... do a google on icecast
[10:31] <coiote> i make it!!!!!
[10:31] <Marupa> kay
[10:31] <eV_64> Oswy: why couldn't you boot to cd?
[10:31] <Oswy> "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."
[10:31] <Oswy> Long story.
[10:31] <coiote> cant believe it!!!
[10:32] <Oswy> Is this easily fixable/if so, how?
 256 mb ram
[10:32] <coiote> how u guys  r doing?
[10:32] <bafoc> Oswy: that's an even longer story... you really need to boot from cdrom
[10:32] <coiote> im looking for some help!!!!!
[10:32] <acalvo> hi!
[10:32] <mithya> POVaddct: 256 mb ram
[10:32] <POVaddct> mithya: should be enough for the live cd
[10:32] <mithya> POVaddct: hmm strange
[10:32] <bafoc> !questions | coiote
[10:32] <ubotu> coiote: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:32] <Intangir> how do i force a package to install if it depends on an OLDER version of a package i already have installed
[10:32] <acalvo> does anyone know if the kqemu module is present in the latest kernel for amd64?
[10:32] <Oswy> So that can't just be fixed by going into the kernel?
[10:32] <IdleOne> !herd5
[10:32] <ubotu> To download Feisty Fawn Herd 5, visit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/ - read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5, and consider doing the tests at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[10:32] <jrib> Intangir: tell us what you are doing
[10:32] <bafoc> Oswy: hmm, no unless you want to learn to kernel hack!!
[10:33] <Oswy> I downloaded the 6.10 installer, MD5sum checked, burned it onto 2 CDs, got a kernel panic both times.
[10:33] <Oswy> So the CD isn't working for me. :/
[10:33] <eV_64> Oswy: run memtest?
[10:33] <Oswy> Hmm, so I'll take that as a no.
[10:33] <orangefly> anyone here used ubuntu, redhat, and suse enough to give an opinion on which has the best overall performance and support....???....
[10:33] <coiote> when i star my computer  and take the option to boot from ubuntu its show me some errors like: can not read block xxxxxxx
[10:33] <Jenn> Hello
[10:33] <hendaus> can somebody tell me how to download nokia suite on linux, thanx
[10:33] <Oswy> Through the Ubuntu installer?
[10:33] <coiote> and this take forever to star  ubuntu
[10:33] <whta> i'm having a particularly odd problem with my entire computer shutting off completely whenever i leave the screen locked for more than a few minutes.. sometimes it will go off during normal use, though, and I'm not ENTIRELY sure if this is ubuntu's fault because to get my computer to stay on again, i have to open the case and fiddle with the wires. i don't unplug anything, though, i just.. move them around :o
[10:33] <Intangir> im trying to install nvidia-glx-dev, it depends on libgl1-mesa-dev, which depends on mesa-common-dev 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3, but i have 6.5.1+cvs20060824
[10:33] <eV_64> Oswy: if they have it
[10:33] <Jenn> I installed ubuntu through Ubuntu alternate.
[10:33] <Oswy> k
[10:33] <eV_64> Oswy: you boot to it
[10:34] <Oswy> Yeah.
[10:34] <eV_64> Oswy: do you remember it being an option?
[10:34] <acalvo> orangefly: I believe ther are enough reviews that will lead you to make a good choice
[10:34] <Jenn> All I get is a black screen!
[10:34] <bafoc> orangefly: yes... been using redhat/fedora/suse for about 10 years... and ubuntu by far is the best desktop linux OS out there
[10:34] <Jenn> Can anyone help me?
[10:34] <Intangir> jrib: im trying to install nvidia-glx-dev, it depends on libgl1-mesa-dev, which depends on mesa-common-dev 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3, but i have 6.5.1+cvs20060824
[10:34] <bafoc> !questions | Jenn
[10:34] <ubotu> Jenn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:34] <orangefly> i'm sorry....i meant servers....
[10:34] <IndyGunFreak> Intangir: isn't in the repos?
[10:34] <Oswy> eV_64: I think it was an option, yeah.
[10:34] <Oswy> Checking now.
[10:34] <Jenn> ubotu: hello.
[10:34] <Intangir> IndyGunFreak: the old version is, but i have a newer version
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Oswy> Haha.
[10:35] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[10:35] <coiote> so any idea whats going on ???
[10:35] <Jenn> lmao
[10:35] <Intangir> how do i make it install with my newer ersion, it depends (or so it thinks) exactly on an older version
[10:35] <Intangir> which i dont want to backport too, cause beryl depends on the newer version
[10:35] <whta> i'm having a particularly odd problem with my entire computer shutting off completely whenever i leave the screen locked for more than a few minutes.. sometimes it will go off during normal use, though, and I'm not ENTIRELY sure if this is ubuntu's fault because to get my computer to stay on again, i have to open the case and fiddle with the wires. i don't unplug anything, though, i just.. move them around :o
[10:35] <bafoc> orangefly: I use centOs for servers, but I do know that debian (ubuntu-server) so be just as stable....
[10:35] <Oswy> Running Memory test now.
[10:35] <bafoc> Jenn: your funny
[10:35] <jrib> Intangir: beryl depends on the newer version of what?
[10:35] <Jenn> I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!
[10:36] <Jenn> ^^ HELP
[10:36] <Oswy> If the memtest fails, do I have a much bigger problem on my hands?
[10:36] <Intangir> jrib: mesa-common-dev
[10:36] <Dante123> hi all.....thanks for those who have tried to help me so far.....here is what i am trying to do.......read a Mac disk (800k- hfs filesystem) under Linux....some have told me it can be done....others say no........
[10:36] <eV_64> umm you need new ram
[10:36] <Oswy> Haha.
[10:36] <coiote> so bafoc  any idea???
[10:36] <Oswy> Fair enough.
[10:36] <jrib> Intangir: you mean some beryl source right? Not the beryl package?
[10:36] <eV_64> did you have windows on it before?
[10:36] <Oswy> Still do.
[10:36] <orangefly> does ubuntu server take advantage of the dual core and quad core processors....???....
[10:36] <eV_64> Oswy: did you ever get bluescreens?
[10:36] <Dante123> some have said use the mount command...something like this  mount -t hfs /dev/floppy-1 etc.
[10:36] <Intangir> jrib: im using beryl packages from a beryl repo
[10:36] <CheshireViking> whta, does it only switch off when the computer is locked? or does it do it even when you are using it?
[10:36] <Oswy> Not that I can remember.
[10:37] <Oswy> Maybe once or twice.
[10:37] <Intangir> jrib: it had a new version of mesa-common-dev
[10:37] <Oswy> It's pretty old, though.
[10:37] <sethk> Dante123, it really depends on how smart the usb gadget is.
[10:37] <eV_64> Oswy: how much ram do you have?
[10:37] <Intangir> jrib: but to install nvidia-glx-dev, it needs an older version of mesa-common-dev
[10:37] <Oswy> January 2005, I think.
[10:37] <POVaddct> Oswy: he means this memtest boot option: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:29574/
[10:37] <Oswy> Well, not that old, I guess.
[10:37] <Intangir> jrib: so i cant install dev stuff, cause the packages dependancies are messed up
[10:37] <Oswy> 1024
[10:37] <mithya> Hello, needing help here.  Trying to boot Ubuntu 1.10 live CD, Checksum passed, 256mb RAM/amd Athalon/800mhz.  CD boots, selected Run/Install, begins the process for short while, then stops, nothing more.  Any ideas?  Thanks for any help.
[10:37] <Intangir> jrib: is there a way to force a package to install? even if its dependancies dont seem to be met?
[10:37] <eV_64> Oswy: where does it error?
[10:37] <Jenn>  I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!
[10:37] <killaz> hi Im setting up my gfx card with tv out
[10:37] <Oswy> Well.
[10:38] <sethk> Intangir, yes, there are force flags you can use with dpkg
[10:38] <Jenn> Can anyone help?  I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!
[10:38] <Oswy> Whenever I install on the boot disk, I get past the loading screen, and then it just goes blank.
[10:38] <jrib> Intangir: I would rebuild the source package if I were in your shoes
[10:38] <bafoc> coiote: I'm tryin to find your question again... ( window is filling up )
[10:38] <sethk> Oswy, try the text mode install on the alternate cd
[10:38] <Oswy> I tried it in text mode, and I got a kernel panic.
[10:38] <jrib> Intangir: are you going to be developing on beryl? or?
[10:38] <killaz> but  I'm getting this error: Unable to find available Display Devices for screen 1
[10:38] <Jenn> Oswy, try alternate.
[10:38] <Oswy> Oh, alternate?
[10:38] <Oswy> k
[10:38] <Oswy> Link please.
 I've had that problem before too...never figured it out, haha im still trying to get this thing to work
[10:38] <eV_64> on the ubuntu site
[10:38] <Oswy> k
[10:38] <bafoc> Jenn: try CTRL+ATL+F2
[10:38] <eV_64> oswy, is it 32 bit pc?
[10:39] <Jenn> mithya, you got to be kidding.
[10:39] <Intangir> jrib: no im trying to build another package that requires GL headers
[10:39] <Oswy> Uhh.
[10:39] <Jenn> mithya, I erased my whole hard-drive to get this to work.
[10:39] <Oswy> 64 bits.
[10:39] <mithya> Jenn, haha, mabey I'll try what that person just mentioned
[10:39] <jrib> Intangir: why not downgrade mesa-common-dev then
[10:39] <Jenn> try what mithya?
[10:39] <bafoc> Jenn: try CTRL+ATL+F2
[10:39] <Oswy> Is the alternate for 6.06?
[10:39] <bafoc> Jenn: this will bring you to a shell logon prompt
[10:39] <Jenn> bafoc, I did... nothing comes up. No console or anything.
[10:40] <Intangir> jrib: wont that break beryl? it depended on a newer version
[10:40] <coiote> when i star my computer and take the option to boot from ubuntu its show me some errors like: can not read block xxxxxxx
[10:40] <mithya> Jenn: i'll try CTRL+ALT+F2 also
[10:40] <Noah0504> So, I just installed Debian Testing on an old Compaq Presario with a 300MHz processor and 64MB of RAM.  I haven't installed a desktop enviornment, and I don't plan to.  I was wondering if anyone else runs Linux just from the console.
[10:40] <jrib> Intangir: beryl doesn't depend on a -dev package.  I'm fairly sure it doesn't...  Try it and see what apt says it is going to do
[10:40] <mithya> Hello, needing help here.  Trying to boot Ubuntu 1.10 live CD, Checksum passed, 256mb RAM/amd Athalon/800mhz.  CD boots, selected Run/Install, begins the process for short while, then stops, nothing more.  Any ideas?  Thanks for any help.
[10:40] <bafoc> Jenn: hmm, I believe there is a safe mode option to boot from, have you tried that?
[10:40] <whta> i'm having a particularly odd problem with my entire computer shutting off completely whenever i leave the screen locked for more than a few minutes.. sometimes it will go off during normal use, though, and I'm not ENTIRELY sure if this is ubuntu's fault because to get my computer to stay on again, i have to open the case and fiddle with the wires. i don't unplug anything, though, i just.. move them around :o
[10:40] <Jenn> bafoc, how do I go on about doing that?
[10:40] <CheshireViking> whta, does it only switch off when the computer is locked? or does it do it even when you are using it?
[10:40] <Intangir> jrib: how do i downgrade then?
[10:41] <CoOlGhOsT> I need some help... Tried to upgrade to Feisty, but it got stuck... so now I cant go on with the update process... Apache2 seems be the problem
[10:41] <eV_64> oswy, have you tried the 32 bit?
[10:41] <eV_64> what cpu do you have?
[10:41] <whta> cheshire: it rarely does it when i'm using it, but it has a few times.
[10:41] <CoOlGhOsT> anyone care to help?
[10:41] <Jenn> bafoc, how do I do safe-boot?
[10:41] <jrib> Intangir: apt-cache policy PACKAGE   will list available versions.  apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION   will install version VERSION of PACKAGE
[10:41] <bafoc> Jenn: when you see the grub splash screen, use your arrow up key and then choose ( I think ) safe mode. Can't remember the exact wording
[10:41] <Oswy> Home-made.
[10:41] <Oswy> I can't find the alternate download, haha.
[10:41] <Oswy> I clearly just fail.
[10:41] <Oswy> Uhh, nvm.
[10:42] <Oswy> Think I got it.
[10:42] <whta> if it matters, i recently installed beryl
[10:42] <Jeeva> how do i install JVM on ubuntu ?
[10:42] <manopulus> a question.... i would lke to have gaim2 beta, is it available through apt-get repository, if so, what is url for repository? overall, where i can get links for mplaeyer, codecs, dvd-cd burn software, for opera?
[10:42] <Intangir> jrib: thx
[10:42] <erUSUL> CoOlGhOsT: uninstall apache if you can and install it again after the dist-upgrade is done... btw fwisty qa in #ubuntu+1
[10:42] <Jeeva> "no suitable java virtual machine could be found on your system"
[10:42] <bafoc> CoOlGhOsT: check out #ubuntu+1
[10:42] <erUSUL> !java > Jeeva
[10:42] <MartianManhunter> i need some help; when I am trying to upgrade to 6.10 through Update Manager, I cannot get past Failed to fetch http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:42] <CheshireViking> whta, i have what sounds like exactly the same problem with a laptop I use, I've replaced the power supply, changed batteries etc, checked all the connections - my only conclusion with my laptop is a faulty motherboard/hardware issue
[10:42] <CoOlGhOsT> yeah... sorry... forgot its still beta
[10:42] <Jeeva> ?
[10:42] <CoOlGhOsT> thanks
[10:42] <jrib> !java | Jeeva
[10:42] <ubotu> Jeeva: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:42] <eV_64> Oswy: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/6.10/
[10:42] <bafoc> phew
[10:42] <Oswy> k
[10:42] <Oswy> Thanks.
[10:42] <bart> hello
[10:43] <bafoc> hi
[10:43] <mithya> Hello, needing help here.  Trying to boot Ubuntu 1.10 live CD, Checksum passed, 256mb RAM/amd Athalon/800mhz.  CD boots, selected Run/Install, begins the process for short while, then stops, nothing more.  Any ideas?  Thanks for any help.
[10:43] <Jeeva> i did install sun-java6-jre
[10:43] <foutrelis> mithya: Which version of Ubuntu did you say you are trying to install?
[10:43] <Jeeva> and java-package
[10:43] <CheshireViking> whta, does the machine only have ubuntu on it, or does it dual boot with win dows?
[10:43] <Intangir> jrib: seems to be working
[10:43] <Berzerke1> I'm having a problem installing my video drivers
[10:43] <Intangir> didnt complain about uninstalling anything
[10:43] <jrib> Jeeva: what are you trying to do now
[10:43] <whta> cheshire: dual booting
[10:43] <foutrelis> mithya: 1.10? :S
[10:43] <mithya> foutrelis: 1.10
[10:43] <Jeeva> trying to install wildfire/openfire
[10:43] <manopulus> mithya: try noapic and nolapic in boot optons
[10:43] <mithya> hahaha 6.10
[10:43] <erUSUL> Jeeva: 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' choose the sun one as default
[10:43] <foutrelis> mithya: 6.10 maybe?
[10:43] <Jenn> bafoc, I do not see any option.
[10:43] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:43] <mithya> ya
[10:43] <dyrne> mithya: there are often problems with installing from the livecd. the alternate install cd might work better. until last release it was default way of installing
[10:43] <mithya> lol
[10:43] <CheshireViking> whta, does the same thing happen with windows or is it just an ubuntu issue?
[10:44] <mithya> OOPSIES
[10:44] <coiote> when i star my computer and take the option to boot from ubuntu its show me some errors like: can not read block xxxxxxx  any help pleae???
[10:44] <whta> cheshire: i'm not sure yet. i haven't been on windows much since it started doing this. i'll have to check that out later
[10:44] <foutrelis> mithya: So you boot the Desktop CD. Does Gnome start and after you start the isntallation wizard it stops. Correct?
[10:44] <coiote> when i star my computer and take the option to boot from ubuntu its show me some errors like: can not read block xxxxxxx and take forever to star ubuntu
[10:44] <Jeeva> erUSUL
[10:44] <Jeeva> it lists 3 alternatives
[10:44] <Foxdie> hi guys, bit of a novice question here, I am trying to install some usb drivers for a video capture card on ubuntu but it's trying to put files in /etc/hotplug/usb which doesn't exist (neither does /etc/hotplug), where should it be putting the files instead?
[10:44] <Jenn> Can anyone help?  I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!.
[10:44] <Jeeva> java-gcj is selected & then there is java-6-sun
[10:44] <erUSUL> coiote: it seems like corrupted fs to me... use fsck from a livecd to check partitions
[10:44] <foutrelis> mithya: that was a badly typed question :)
[10:45] <CheshireViking> whta, i'd check windows - at least it'd give you an idea whether its ubuntu, or whether it could be a hardware issue like mine
[10:45] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:45] <Jeeva> okay, thanks works
[10:45] <erUSUL> Jeeva: i told you to choose the one from Sun java-6-sun
[10:45] <mithya> foutrelis: It goes directly to the screen after selecting Run/Install then it stops as the bar is moving back and forth.
[10:45] <Jenn> Help,  I booted my newly install ubuntu but I get a black screen with a solid cursor on top of the screen!
[10:45] <mithya> dyrne: ok thanks, i'll give that a shot
[10:46] <whta> cheshire: will do. it's odd, though. it's been running fine on this exact setup for months. sudden problem.
[10:46] <Death_Sargent> I am trying to auto start firestarter when i boot however after i added "pete ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter" to my sudoers file now only root can launch firestarters
[10:46] <bafoc> Jenn: What happens if you do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[10:46] <mithya> mithya: testing testing 123
[10:46] <foutrelis> mithya: I did not see dyrne's response that's why I kept talink. I suggest the same. :)
[10:46] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:47] <Foxdie> anyone know what ubuntu's alternative for /etc/hotplug is?
[10:47] <foutrelis> *talking :\
 testing...123
[10:47] <eV_64> Oswy: find it?
[10:47] <Jenn> bafoc, no result.
[10:47] <manopulus> a question.... i would lke to have gaim2 beta, is it available through apt-get repository, if so, what is url for repository? overall, where i can get links for mplaeyer, codecs, dvd-cd burn software, for opera?
[10:47] <mithya> hmm how do i make my typing to others read?
[10:47] <Jenn> It is still froze as a black screen.
[10:47] <bafoc> Jenn: If you hit your numlock key, does the light go off and on?
[10:47] <mithya> foutrelis: ok thanks
[10:47] <Death_Sargent> I am trying to auto start firestarter when i boot however after i added "pete ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter" to my sudoers file now only root can launch firestarter. i can't even use the menu link
[10:47] <mithya> i mean red
[10:47] <eV_64> Oswy: gotta run
[10:47] <Death_Sargent> only works if i use a terminal and start under su
[10:48] <Oswy> k
[10:48] <Noah0504> Pastor123: What all are you allowed to do with the shell?
[10:48] <Jenn> bafoc, yet -- they do go on and off.
[10:48] <Jenn> yes*
[10:48] <kski> when running make/make install, how do i install so i don't have to be root to run my program?
[10:48] <odix> dvdauthor is saying it can't write my /meda/hda3/ ... how can i give it permission to ?
[10:48] <odix> chown ?
[10:48] <mithya> everyone: how do i send a message that is highlighted to others....as in distinguished from the rest of the other text?
[10:48] <N3WB> How to install .deb packages without grapical interface (X11)
[10:48] <coiote> ersul thanks mate u think thats gonna be enougth?
[10:49] <mithya> hmmm mabey that worked
[10:49] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:49] <preaction> N3WB: dpkg -i <path to package .deb>
[10:49] <mithya> ahh I c
[10:49] <CheshireViking> whta, don't want to sound like a doom & gloom merchant, but thats how mine came went, was working fine for years, then all of a sudden started switching off - could be minutes or days before it switched off - it did it in windows, ubuntu & slackware - so i'm fairly sure its hardware - just use it as a door stop now
[10:49] <Foxdie> N3WB: dpkg -i package.deb
[10:49] <preaction> N3WB: sudo dpkg actually
[10:49] <N3WB> ok
[10:49] <bart> i have a quastion: what is simplymepis? is it better than ubuntu? i don't know, what is better for me... (sorry for my bad english)
[10:49] <mithya> woops
[10:49] <bafoc> Jenn: ok so the system isn't locked up... hmm...
[10:49] <mithya> hahah sorry all
[10:49] <Jenn> bafoc, you there?
[10:49] <Berzerke1> can anyone help me?
[10:50] <Jenn> bafoc, it's not, but everything does seem frozen when I get the black screen.
[10:50] <Chetwin> Will fsck tell me if I have a bad hard drive
[10:50] <Death_Sargent> i get an xlib error when trying to start as me from console
[10:50] <Noah0504> bart: Mepis is built upon Ubuntu (previously Debian) and used KDE as it's default desktop enviornment.  If you like Gnome, just stick with Ubuntu, however, if you like KDE, Mepis may be a good alternative to Kubuntu.
[10:50] <preaction> Chetwin: it only checks the filesystem, not the hardware
[10:50] <CaBlGuY> anyone tell me how to remove RythmBox??
[10:50] <Chetwin> preaction: How can I check the hardware?
[10:51] <bafoc> Jenn: hmm, ok try this... when you get to the grub splash screen, hit the a key, and then a again, and then -s ( this will allow you to append to the boot line the option for single user mod) no gui..
[10:51] <preaction> CaBlGuY: apt-get remove rhythmbox ?
[10:51] <Noah0504> Why ask a question, and then leave the channel?  Grr...
[10:51] <shwag> anyone know why my beryl wont work anymore?
[10:51] <CaBlGuY> preaction:  lemme try..  brb
[10:51] <bafoc> shway: check out #beryl
[10:51] <Jenn> bafoc, you mean I should hit ESC?
[10:51] <seggeh> approx. how much disk space does a normal install of the ubuntu desktop take up?
[10:51] <Berzerke1> when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:51] <Noah0504> shwag: It must be brokened... :)
[10:51] <bafoc> Jenn: no... just as I mentioned above
[10:52] <preaction> Chetwin: normally one asks on IRC before private messages
[10:52] <bafoc> Jenn: you want to go into single user mode....
[10:52] <Chetwin> I did
[10:52] <Chetwin> oh
[10:52] <Chetwin> I get it
[10:52] <shwag> Noah0504: beryl crashed...not it wont restart.
[10:52] <bafoc> :-)
[10:52] <Berzerke1> I'm having a problem with my video driver. when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:52] <mdog> how do i check what my ethernet link is running at? 10/100/1000??
[10:52] <Jenn> bafoc, it says Press ESC to enter menu.
[10:52] <bafoc> Jenn: hmm, ok do that :-)
[10:52] <Chetwin> Okay, Anyone, how can I checkc the actual hardware of my drive
[10:52] <Chetwin> check*
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> preaction:  yep, that was it..   :p
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> Tanks!
[10:53] <Noah0504> shwag: I've never really messed around with Beryl, so I don't think I can be of much help.  However, if it just stopped working, that may a pretty broad problem.  Best of luck getting the issue resolved though.
[10:53] <Berzerke1> I'm having a problem with my video driver. when I change the driver in the xorg.conf, it says the module is 1.0-7184 while the driver is 1.0-9755 and won't let me startx
[10:53] <bafoc> Jenn, I dual boot, so I don't see the normal splash screen ( nor do I reboot often ) :-)
[10:53] <Berzerke1> it will only let me boot with the vesa driver
[10:53] <Jenn> bafoc, I'm in the menu. I get few options.
[10:53] <coiote> its a several software  wich can do that chetwim
[10:53] <Berzerke1> nvidia doesn't work at all
[10:53] <bafoc> ok
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> whens the next update for Ubuntu comin out..  IE, next version??
[10:54] <Chetwin> coiote: any open source software?
[10:54] <netham45> GAH!
[10:54] <netham45> Multi-Head is pissing me off!
[10:54] <CheshireViking> !fiesty > CaBlGuY
[10:54] <netham45> !multihead
[10:54] <Jenn> bafoc: I sew kernel 2.6, memtest, kernel recovery mode.
[10:54] <mdog> anyone know how to check if your NIC is running 10/100/1000?
[10:54] <gecko_> How do I find out which exact version of Ubuntu I have..it says 7.04 But i KNOW its not fully 7.04.. i dont know what herd i have
[10:54] <CaBlGuY> Thanks CheshireViking
[10:54] <Death_Sargent> how do i make it so i don't need a password to launch a program
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multihead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <zyth> CaBlGuY, 07/04
[10:54] <Jon335> I had to manually remove a dpkg package, how do I remove it from the package db (so it doesn't think it's still there)?
[10:54] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: you have messed up the driver from nvidia.com and the one from repos?
[10:54] <shwag> Noah0504: fixed.
[10:54] <preaction> Chetwin: do you have SMART enabled in your BIOS?
[10:54] <bafoc> Jenn: highlight a kerenl and then hit a you should be at the boot option line.. type -s and then hit enter
[10:54] <Chetwin> Don't know
[10:54] <Berzerke1> what?
[10:55] <Berzerke1> I didn't install it from the repos.
[10:55] <Death_Sargent> anyone know how to make it so i don't need a passowrd to launch firestarter
[10:55] <badatt> hello all
[10:55] <Berzerke1> I downloaded the package from nvidia.com
[10:55] <Berzerke1> I installed the headers and the kernel
[10:55] <Foxdie> anyone able to tell me how hotplug works with ubuntu?
[10:55] <MartianManhunter> help i am running into problems upgrading to 6.10 in Update Manager, please
[10:56] <bafoc> Berzerke1: did you install the correct kernel headers for your running kernel
[10:56] <preaction> Chetwin: sudo apt-get install smartmontools <- look up how to use them on google?
[10:56] <Berzerke1> yes
[10:56] <badatt> i have a problem: when i try "ls -R / | more" (or any other use of more) it doesn't paginate , it stops after showing a single page. can someone help me?
[10:56] <Jenn> bafoc, at the bottom it says ... press 'e' to edit the commands before booting, or 'c' for a command line.
[10:56] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: maybe you have instaled linux-restricted-modules after that?
[10:56] <CaBlGuY> :-O   Beryl is gonna be a default install??
[10:56] <CaBlGuY> if so, that's way cool..
[10:56] <Berzerke1> I'm....not supposed to?
[10:56] <bafoc> Jenn: a = append... you can't hit a?
[10:56] <Chetwin> THANKS
[10:56] <preaction> CaBlGuY: it got deferred to fiesty+1, but that's the idea yes
[10:56] <coiote> well chetwin everithing depends u can use the  hirents boot cd it comes whit a lot of aplications
[10:57] <CaBlGuY> preaction:  cool..
[10:57] <Jenn> nope... I can't hit a key. once I select the ketnal boot... it takes me to normal boot.
[10:57] <mdog> anyone know how to check if ethernet is running at 10/100/1000
[10:57] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: well in that package comes a nvidia.ko that have screwed the one from the *.run pacakge
[10:57] <netham45> ifconfig eth0
[10:57] <Berzerke1> but this isn't a problem with the driver
[10:57] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: reinstaling the *.run file from nvidia.com should resolve the issue
[10:57] <Berzerke1> the driver installed fine
[10:57] <mdog> netham45: wheres it show that good stuff
[10:57] <bafoc> Jenn: ok then I guess to the edit option and then add -s (strange they took out the append option).
[10:57] <Jon335> Can anyone help me with a dpkg issue?
[10:57] <Berzerke1> I did that 3 times.
[10:58] <netham45> mdog: ifconfig eth0 -a
[10:58] <CaBlGuY> preaction:  is there some screenshots somewhere of fiesty yet?
[10:58] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: do you need linux-restricted-modules for other hardware in your machine?
[10:58] <netham45> how do I upgrade to Feisty?
[10:58] <Berzerke1> I don't know.
[10:58] <preaction> netham45: fiesty is handled in #ubuntu+1
[10:58] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: why did you instaled them?
[10:58] <Death_Sargent> dl the disk and use the disk upgrade method
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> CaBlGuY: it looks about the same as Edgy
[10:59] <Jenn> bafoc, now I see a menu with following options: root, kernal boot..... quiet splash, initrd, savedefault, boot.
[10:59] <netham45> Eeeeeedgy is having some issues with my keyboard and stuff. espically with the shift key.
[10:59] <Berzerke1> Because the instructions I read said to?
[10:59] <coiote> how to use the fsck on a live cd????
[10:59] <harry_> can I get a RSS/Atom reader that goes as an object in a gnome bar?
[10:59] <CaBlGuY> IndyGunFreak:   K..  just wonderin..
[10:59] <Death_Sargent> USE THE DISK UPGRADE TECHNIQUE
[10:59] <coiote> im new on linux so.....
[10:59] <bafoc> Jenn: ok at the end of the boot option type -s
[10:59] <CaBlGuY> coiote:  welcome to the FREE world..  ;)
[10:59] <Jon335> I had to manually remove a dpkg package, how do I remove it from the package db (so it doesn't think it's still there)?
[11:00] <Jenn> bafoc, ok done.
[11:00] <coiote> i know  but still learning  cabiguy
[11:00] <bafoc> Jenn: ok now hit enter
[11:00] <Berzerke1> I'm new also, and so far, I'm having a crappy experience.
[11:00] <Jenn> bafoc, done.
[11:00] <Berzerke1> Errors left and right.
[11:00] <bafoc> Jenn: cool, hopefully you will get a logon prompt. If so, we can go from there
[11:01] <CaBlGuY> coiote:  well, if you have any questions at all, just ask..  and BTW, Ubuntu is THE best distro as far as I'm concerned so, you made a great choice..
[11:01] <Jenn> bafoc, I hope so. :(
[11:01] <bafoc> ;-)
[11:01] <bafoc> CaBIGUy: Yup!
[11:01] <Berzerke1> erUSUL, you there?
[11:01] <CaBlGuY> :)
[11:02] <Jenn> bafocc, black screen. :(
[11:02] <bafoc> Jenn: what type of hardware are you using?
[11:02] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: yes
[11:02] <Berzerke1> so what exactly am I supposed to do?
[11:03] <Jenn> Bafoc, Intel Pentium III Processor, 697 MHz, 384 MB of Ram, Nividia GeForce MX 440.
[11:03] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: linux-restricted-modules are *not* needed for the nvidia.com *.run package the linux-headers-generic are...
[11:04] <Berzerke1> I'm not sure if I installed them actually.
[11:04] <Berzerke1> I didn't install the generic headers
[11:04] <erUSUL> Berzerke1:  linux-restricted-modules are needed if you use the prepackaged driver nvidia-glx
[11:04] <Berzerke1> I installed the 386 headers
[11:04] <bafoc> Jenn: one sec, I'm going to boot a system here to check something
[11:04] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: the ones that match your kernel
[11:05] <Berzerke1> if I reboot back into ubuntu and see that I did install the restricted modules, I should just remove them?
[11:05] <bafoc> Jenn: Have you tried the memtest86+ boot option when you hit ESC?
[11:05] <Berzerke1> then reinstall the nvidia.com drivers?
[11:05] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: uninstall linux-restricted-modules and reinstall the nvidia.com *.run package
[11:05] <Berzerke1> alright
[11:06] <Jenn> bafoc, I will try.
[11:06] <erUSUL> Berzerke1: if you have an atheros wifi card you will no longer be able to run it...
[11:06] <kghunt> can some1 help im trying to reinstall grub after a vista install
[11:06] <Norf-ubu_> how can I print to PDF ?
[11:06] <Jon335> I had to manually remove a dpkg package, how do I remove it from the package db (so it doesn't think it's still there)?
[11:06] <Soulless> can anyone remind me what the reconfigure thing is for Xorg. I know it's dpkg-reconfigure or something like it.
[11:07] <ntze> Norf-ubu, cups-pdf package
[11:07] <Jenn> bafoc, I have done memory test before. It passes.
[11:07] <so_> I have this one Ubuntu machine that is supposedly using emacs for things like vipw, but it won't accept C-x C-c to exit, any ideas?
[11:07] <erUSUL> ubotu tell kghunt about grub | kghunt see priv msg from ubotu
[11:07] <Norf-ubu_> cheers ntze
[11:07] <ntze> Norf-ubu, anytime
[11:07] <bafoc> Jenn: ok how about recoverymode
[11:07] <kghunt> cheers
[11:08] <bafoc> Jenn: have you tried swapping out memory, video card, video cable.. etc..
[11:08] <Kazz> kghunt: Are you having a problem with it, or you just don't know what to do?
[11:08] <Jenn> bafoc, no, I don't have any other compatible hardware for the computer.
[11:09] <teclo> Say, whenn the fuck are you folks gonna fix the shitload of bugs in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[11:09] <bafoc> Jenn: when you booted from the cd to the live desktop before install everything worked ok? have you tried turning off acpi?
[11:09] <N3WB> Is it normal that printing with Ubuntu is kinda...screwed
[11:09] <kghunt> Well since i installed vista ubuntu no longer boots
[11:09] <kghunt> reading around i assume this is becuase vista has overwritten grub in the mbr
[11:10] <bafoc> kghunt: you may want to re-install ubuntu and use the grub bootloader instead of the vista one
[11:10] <marcagio> hello people! i'm trying to get a BCM4318 to work, I tried all the forums I could find but nothing has worked... I see it when I do :$ lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation... but I can't see it when I look into my network settings (i see my LAN, my dialup but no wifi)
[11:10] <Jenn> bafoc, live desktop did not work. I had the same problem. That's why I used alternate installl.
[11:10] <Noah0504> kghunt: Yeah, Windows will do that to you.
[11:10] <erUSUL> kghunt: have you checked the ubotu pm
[11:10] <kghunt> yes
[11:10] <N3WB> kghunt: Or smarter: Download Super Grub Disc
[11:10] <kghunt> im just looking at the webby now
[11:10] <N3WB> (Google!)
[11:10] <kghunt> what does that do
[11:11] <killaz> can someone help me setup the tv out on my gfx?
[11:11] <N3WB> I use SGD allways for booting Ubuntu, dont wana overwrite the Vista Bootloader :p
[11:11] <Soulless> kghunt: doesn't the install CD have a repair option
[11:11] <N3WB> It fixes GRUB For you :p
[11:11] <bafoc> Jenn: sorry, I would really have to say that if the default didn't work without the alternate for both live cd and install that it looks hardware related but where.. I'm unsure
[11:11] <N3WB> It detect the old grub file and you can restore it from there
[11:11] <kghunt> ubuntu doesnt
[11:11] <kghunt> I dont give a toss about vista as long as it loads
[11:11] <kghunt> I only use it for the media centre bit for my xbox 360
[11:12] <darkusurp> do i have to install drivers to get my sound card working?
[11:12] <Kazz> kghunt: This might help you: http://www.eloff.se/tutorials.php?ubuntu_vista_dualboot
[11:12] <Soulless> kghunt: pretty much all it's useful for...
[11:12] <AngryElf> darkusurp, no, philosophically, you shouldn't *have* to
[11:13] <Kazz> kghunt: Basically you can boot off of a live CD and reinstall grub.
[11:13] <darkusurp> my sound isnt working though
[11:13] <marcagio> as I can see no one's able to help me? (look further up)
[11:13] <kghunt> im on the live cd now :-)
[11:14] <Berzerke1> USUL
[11:14] <Berzerke1> I tryed to do that.
[11:14] <Kazz> marcagio: Sorry, no idea. :(
[11:14] <Berzerke1> tried*
[11:14] <Berzerke1> But it still gave me the same error
[11:14] <Soulless> marcagio: chill, maybe someone's googling it for you...
[11:14] <Berzerke1> it said "Failed to load NVIDIA Module Kernel"
[11:14] <mcquaid> i have 2 ubuntu machines (one dapper one edgy) that I'm trying to share via samba
[11:14] <Kazz> kghunt: Did you go to that web site I pasted for you?  It should help you...I've gotta' go for now, but if you have a problem following what it says, someone can probably help. :)
[11:14] <marcagio> lol i've been googling for at least an hour
[11:15] <mcquaid> so far i can only get it working one way.
[11:15] <mcquaid> it works fine both ways if i specify smb://<IP_ADDRESS> but if i go to networks in the browser it times out going from edgy to the dapper box
[11:15] <jisatsu_> I've got a USB NIC, but I'm not sure how to get it working. any guides online for it?
[11:15] <Soulless> mcquaid: try installing the samba admin stuff. it's in Synaptic, under networking
[11:15] <mcquaid> but the dapper box finds the edgy box over the network without issue
[11:16] <jisatsu_> wireless*
[11:16] <kghunt> thanks mcquaid
[11:16] <kghunt> 1 question
[11:16] <daedalus_> jisatsu_: ndiswrapper in google
[11:16] <kghunt> if i reinstall grub do i install it to the linux partition or the mbr?
[11:16] <mcquaid> i think i have all the samba stuff installed, and I copied over my smb.conf from edgy to dapper so they are identifcal except for the paths of course
[11:16] <Soulless> mcquaid: I have a variant of the same problem.
[11:17] <Berzerke1> can anyone help me? I'm having a problem installing my nvidia drivers
[11:17] <jisatsu_> daedalus_: cheers :)
[11:17] <Jenn> bafoc, you there>
[11:17] <Soulless> mcquaid: maybe it's becuase they both have the samba client installed on but not the server?
[11:17] <Hyper-cool> what is the best win emulator for x86 ubuntu edgy?
[11:18] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, what sort of problem are you having?
[11:18] <mcquaid> Soulless: no both have the server daemon running
[11:18] <Berzerke1> Well
[11:18] <Berzerke1> when I try to boot up normally
[11:18] <bafoc> Jenn: 1 sec, working...
[11:18] <Berzerke1> I get an error with a blue screen
[11:18] <mcquaid> and whats weird is if i access the network from teh dapper box to the edgy box.  then immediately after the edgy box will find the dapper box
[11:18] <Berzerke1> saying the X server failed to initialize
[11:18] <LjL> !away > bafoc-away    (bafoc-away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:19] <kghunt> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[11:19] <Soulless> mcquaid: well, i'm fresh outta ideas.
[11:19] <mcquaid> so if i initially do a network search from dapper > edgy it will then work both ways
[11:19] <Berzerke1> and it's giving me a mismatch between my module version and driver version (the latter being a newer version)
[11:19] <mcquaid> that is until the dapper box times out i guess
[11:19] <Jenn> does ubuntu work with NTFS file system?
[11:19] <Berzerke1> btw, I'm trying to install it using the nvidia.com run package
[11:19] <Berzerke1> not the glx package
[11:20] <mcquaid> np Soulless, just throwing things out here.  I've searched the forums but no answer yet.  I guess I should organize my problem with a post
[11:20] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Jenn about ntfs | Jenn see priv msg from ubotu
[11:20] <jisatsu_> hmm. apparently the chipset isn't supported by ndiswrapper
[11:20] <marcagio> Jenn it'll read it right out of the box... you can look in google for some 'unsupported ways' to read AND write
[11:20] <whta> how can i get the game 2.0 beta through synaptic? is that possible yet?
[11:20] <whta> err, gaim*
[11:20] <digi_> quick question, where can you get the location of a mount? the folder is /media/sdc1 but there is no entry in fstab
[11:20] <jisatsu_> whta: it's there by default in Edgy as far as I know
[11:20] <Soulless> mcquaid: try http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions I get most of my info there
[11:21] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, i'm not sure how to solve that, possibly downloading & running Envy might install it for you
[11:21] <Rolm> !uptdate
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uptdate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <Rolm> !update
[11:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:21] <jmhodges> okay, since i need python and ruby support, is there a way to tell vim to swap in /usr/bin/vim.ruby when its a Ruby file and so on?
[11:22] <bimberi> digi_: 'df' will tell you (if it's mounted that is)
[11:22] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, you possibly need to change your xorg.conf back to "nv" instead of "nvidia" to give you a chance of getting back into gnome
[11:22] <sharperguy> whats the easiest way to find out what grub calls each drive/partition?
[11:22] <jmhodges> such that i don't have to remember to type in vim.ruby everytime i edit a ruby file?
[11:22] <bimberi> whta: what Ubuntu version? (Edgy has 2.0)
[11:22] <Berzerke1> I was using the vesa driver
[11:22] <digi_> bimberi: ty
[11:22] <bimberi> digi_: yw :)
[11:22] <whta> bimberi: ah i just realized i'm using the beta without knowing it, but it's up to beta 6 now and i have 3.1 :o
[11:22] <jrib> jmhodges: why not use vim.full?
[11:23] <jmhodges> vim.full?
[11:23] <Berzerke1> how do I totally uninstall the run pack driver
[11:23] <Smurphy[ACS] > Hia folks ...
[11:23] <Smurphy[ACS] > Anyone knows if there is a hardened php4 package for ubuntu LTS available ???
[11:23] <digi_> bimberi: doesnt show up there, could it be a link?
[11:23] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, right, i was assuming you'd been using nv, maybe just change back to vesa then - hopefully that should get you back to gnome
[11:23] <Berzerke1> it does, but it's a crappy video driver
[11:24] <jrib> jmhodges: make sure you do: sudo update-alternatives --config vim   to choose
[11:24] <Berzerke1> how would I uninstall the nvidia.com driver
[11:24] <jmhodges> jrib: before or after install it?
[11:24] <Marupa> what device does esd use as output?
[11:24] <jrib> !nvidia | Berzerke1
[11:24] <ubotu> Berzerke1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:24] <digi_> bimberi: its only one folder from the drive that is being shown
[11:24] <Marupa> is it /dev/dsp?
[11:24] <STUFFY10> how do i read my system mail
[11:24] <Berzerke1> not install
[11:24] <Berzerke1> uninstall
[11:24] <jrib> jmhodges: after.  It should already be set that way after you install it, but just in case
[11:24] <bimberi> digi_: not mounted then. Try 'mount'.  If it's not in that list it's definitely not mounted
[11:24] <Slart> STUFFY10: mail at command line
[11:24] <Soulless> Marupa: /dev/dsp
[11:24] <jmhodges> jrib: sweet thanks a ton
[11:25] <Marupa> Soulless, Ok, then how come darkice is getting dead air?
[11:25] <Soulless> Marupa: I think...
[11:25] <jrib> Berzerke1: how did you install it
[11:25] <scottness> hey folks...i'm looking for some help setting up a home network with a desktop and its printer, 2 laptops, and a wireless router...all 3 computers are running Ubuntu... i'd like to share files between the computers and share the desktop's printer...where do i start?
[11:25] <jmhodges> i love ubuntu
[11:25] <Slart> STUFFY10: there are switches to chose what users mail you want.. or you could do a sudo su and then mail
[11:25] <STUFFY10> Slart, I tried. mail: command not found
[11:25] <Berzerke1> using the run package
[11:25] <Berzerke1> from nvidia.com
[11:25] <Slart> STUFFY10: I'll be.. no mail here either.. I thought that was standard on a linux ssytem
[11:25] <digi_> bimberi: can i pm you?
[11:25] <jrib> Berzerke1: did you read the README?
[11:25] <Stallo> Can anyone help me with some questions about ethernet interfaces? pm
[11:26] <Berzerke1> what readme?
[11:26] <Berzerke1> there was no readme
[11:26] <STUFFY10> i dont think server edition has mail even
[11:26] <jrib> Berzerke1: check the site where you got it from
[11:26] <Slart> STUFFY10: then I have no idea... is mail functions installed at all? or is it just the client missing?
[11:26] <CheshireViking> Berzerke1, i'd probably just modify the xorg.conf to have vesa instead of nvidia.  All i'd do after that would be a straight install that normally fixed any problems, failing that I'd use envy to uninstall & then reinstall
[11:26] <Soulless> marupa: gimme a minute...
[11:26] <cafuego_> Don't make the software choose an MTA for you, that'd be bad, pick your own.
[11:26] <bimberi> digi_: yep
[11:26] <Marupa> I _know_ I'm close...and it's maddening me.
[11:27] <scottness> as of right now... i can see the shared folders from the desktop through samba, but the contents cannot be displayed...i can't even find the folder i shared through nfs
[11:27] <cafuego_> STUFFY10: `mail' is part of the `mailx' package.
[11:27] <Berzerke1> the readme doesn't tell how to uninstall
[11:27] <cafuego_> ... and has nothing to do with being either a pop/imap or smtp server.
[11:28] <bimberi> digi_: you need to be registered though
[11:28] <STUFFY10> thanks cafuego.
[11:28] <bimberi> !register | digi_
[11:28] <ubotu> digi_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:28] <jrib> Berzerke1: run the install with --help maybe
[11:28] <Soulless> Marupa: ah... it's one of those irritating problems. I'm sure when you find a solution it's gonna be blindingly obvious
[11:28] <Berzerke1> would it work if the run pack was installed along side?
[11:28] <marcagio> how do I get the beta version of fiesty?
[11:28] <Marupa> Yeah, I know.
[11:28] <duelboot> yo
[11:28] <Berzerke1> or would it conflict
[11:28] <Marupa> maybe you'd like to help debug, Soulless/
[11:28] <dromer> can someone help me change the default theme for phpsysinfo? I kind of forgot (and can't find) how to do it :#
[11:29] <digi_> bimberi: join digihelp for a sec
[11:29] <duelboot> ubotu help /me
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help /me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <Soulless> Marupa: Why not, i have plenty of spare time.
[11:29] <Marupa> mind PMs?
[11:30] <Soulless> Marupa: ummm.... If they get through
[11:31] <makuseru> how do i fix the problem of flash objects in webpages being ontop of everything else
[11:31] <coiote> how to use the fsck on a live cd????
[11:32] <Marupa> sudo fsck
[11:32] <netham45> ok
[11:32] <coiote> well u mean go to a terminal and tipe that?
[11:32] <netham45> I misread that as sudo f**k
[11:33] <Marupa> Did you get those, Soulless?
[11:33] <erUSUL> coiote: you have to specify the target partition 'sudo fsck /dev/....'
[11:34] <Soulless> Marupa: did I get what?
[11:34] <Marupa> the PMs
[11:34] <Soulless> Marupa: quote: * Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[11:35] <Marupa> Huh.  weird.  I'm registered.
[11:35] <coiote> gracias erusul so, how i say before im new on it(but i have to say i love it)
[11:35] <Soulless> Marupa: I think it's just one of those days...
[11:36] <amayera> hi
[11:36] <amayera> what would you propose as secure md5-replacement for creating hashs?
[11:36] <HollywoodCode> Hey how do i find out the name of my local machine? anyone??
[11:36] <cafuego_> amayera: sha256 seems to be okay still
[11:36] <Jenn> HELP - Could it be that I'm getting a blank screen because the signals are going out through wrong ports?
[11:36] <jrib> HollywoodCode: hostname
[11:36] <Jenn> like to old monitor?
[11:37] <HollywoodCode> jrib, thank you!!!!
[11:37] <amayera> cafuego_: so I guess sha512 is even better?
[11:38] <cafuego_> amayera: You'll be wanting a tradeoff between security and speed... otherwise gpg the damn thing ;-)
[11:38] <ThaNerd> i have a problem with su... i can sudo, but can't su with the same password :s
[11:38] <slvmchn> is there a way to install ubuntu without having to burn the cds
[11:38] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: Yes, feature, not bug.
[11:39] <IdleOne> !install slvmchn
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install slvmchn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <amayera> cafuego_: ok. merci beaucoup.cu
[11:39] <Jenn> how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:39] <IdleOne> !install | slvmchn
[11:39] <ubotu> slvmchn: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:39] <ThaNerd> slvmchn: nope, unless installing on a virtual machine...
[11:39] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: sudo uses YOUR password, su uses the ROOT password, which is locked and nonexistent.
[11:39] <seggeh> approx. how much disk space does a normal install of the ubuntu desktop take up?
[11:39] <Jenn>  how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:39] <Jenn> HELP -  how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:39] <cafuego_> !repeat | jenn
[11:39] <ubotu> jenn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:39] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: but i think i could su with the same password, yesterday (or maybe i dreamed it?)
[11:40] <harry_> what are the differences between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server
[11:40] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: only if you set the root password to be that password.
[11:40] <bruenig> harry_, no gui for one
[11:40] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: Unless you perhaps used 'sudo su'
[11:40] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: possibly, by mistake ;-)
[11:41] <Jenn> HELP -  how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:41] <cafuego_> harry_: server has no desktop apps, and uses a kernel that doesn't have the non-free drivers available.
[11:41] <cafuego_> !repeat | jenn
[11:41] <ubotu> jenn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:41] <Jenn> !patience
[11:41] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:41] <abasinisvacant> ston
[11:42] <Jenn> !you rock
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you rock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: i know about insecurity of it, but how could i set the root password as the same as my own password?
[11:42] <IdleOne> !botabuse | Jenn
[11:42] <ubotu> Jenn: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:42] <hateyla> i want to upgrade my dapper to edgy 32bit.. so how can i upgrade.. and one more thing is that.. my connection is too much slow is there any possiblity to resume my update?
[11:42] <ar3ac> hi there
[11:42] <Centaur5> Can I run pxe boot ubuntu install, a local repository, and an apt-proxy server on the same machine?
[11:43] <ar3ac> i have a little problem with a usb storage
[11:43] <cafuego_> ThaNerd: 'sudo passwd' - better perhaps is to just "alias su=sudo"
[11:43] <ar3ac> when i plug it doesn't mount automatically
[11:43] <secion8> is there an svn for beryl on feisty fawn
[11:43] <james296> how can I log out of the Xserver? what do I type in the terminal to exit the X Server I mean
[11:43] <cafuego_> Jenn: Run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' on the console, and configure X with proper values.
[11:43] <ar3ac> i have to use a command line : mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/care
[11:43] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: actually, i would only su when i have several cp to do...
[11:44] <harry_> I had/have this odd problem with a network. I tried to do remote login to my computer from an edubuntu machine over a windoze network, but it won't show up in the list of hosts
[11:44] <ThaNerd> cafuego_: but thanks for the info, i'll sudo passwd
[11:44] <Jenn> HELP -  how do I configure my monitor for ubuntu? I get a black screen,
[11:44] <bruenig> !repeat | Jenn
[11:44] <bruenig> !repeat > Jenn
[11:44] <bruenig> ubotu, tell Jenn about repeat
[11:44] <ubotu> Jenn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:45] <james296> well?
[11:45] <__Lamont__> Jenn: Does you monitor show the BIOS post screen / etc?
[11:45] <secion8> i mean the url for the beryl svn feisty fawn
[11:45] <Jenn> I can get that to come up.
[11:45] <trond> Is there a commando for flushing memory in linux?
[11:45] <i3d> anyone knows how to show all supported framebuffer mode?
[11:45] <trond> Would save me from some reboots :)
[11:45] <Jenn> lamont, want me to?
[11:46] <james296> how do I exit the X server in the terminal?
[11:46] <Tsuroerusu> Hey, does a Linux swap partition have to be a primary partition?
[11:46] <__Lamont__> Hmm... I'm not an ubuntu or linux expert either -- wanted to be sure that the problem was really with the OS
[11:46] <bruenig> Tsuroerusu, no
[11:46] <Zenerek> question i upgraded my dapper and suddenly lost the tty device,slamr.ko,ungrab-winmodem.ko and slmodemd,I reinstall the packages go online again, I open opera go to a site then  I notice it sorta stutters and i am like wtf, i look at cpu usage monitor i have and see some major usage (more than i remember) , i have dialup so i was upgrading in sections and included lastnight was a newer kernal, is anyone noticing slowdown like me? even gaim
[11:46] <__Lamont__> Jenn: At what point after boot does it go blank?
[11:46] <Tsuroerusu> bruenig: So I can create a logical partition and put all the Linux partitions in there?
[11:47] <trond> James26: killall -9 xorg?
[11:47] <Jenn> after the loading screen, right before the login screen.
[11:47] <bruenig> Tsuroerusu, yeah logical or primary is fine for any linux partition, be it / /home swap whatever
[11:47] <hateyla> Zenerek,  same problem with me want to update dapper to edgy.. so want to ask about resuming.
[11:47] <Tsuroerusu> bruenig: OK great, thanks for the answer! :)
[11:48] <Zenerek> uh hateyla could you say that again, i did not get what you were trying to say
[11:48] <Jenn> lamont, after the loading screen and right before the login screen.
[11:48] <pdq> First time on the forum. Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask. Is anyone using Beagle with samba?
[11:49] <eV64_> bill@nix-box:~$ sudo mysqladmin password somepassword
[11:49] <eV64_> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[11:49] <eV64_> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[11:49] <math> hello, i want to install ubuntu feisty from my usb-pen, like ones before, but for some reason i cant do this again
[11:49] <preaction> !paste | eV64_
[11:49] <ubotu> eV64_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <eV64_> thanks
[11:49] <math> i think it has something to do with the fat-type
[11:49] <hateyla> Zenerek,  u want to say u have slow connection .. thats why u take upgrade in parts ?
[11:50] <math> it says fat32 with fdisk -l, but i cant make it fat16...
[11:50] <preaction> eV64_: also, #mysql would be far more helpful. also, your mysqld isn't started or is on a different port
[11:50] <pros1>   when I type fglrxiinfo on my ati card I get the mesa3d string. No 3d accel it seems
[11:50] <Pollywog> eV64 the MySQL website has step by step instructions for configuring the initial accounts
[11:50] <pros1> edgy
[11:50] <Pollywog> I use them every time I reinstall
[11:50] <ppd> f020
[11:50] <__Lamont__> Jenn: Again, I believe there's a keyboard command that can get you to a terminal window -- X-windows-less login on most linus distros
[11:50] <Zenerek> yes i have a dialup modem, and i did take them in parts, last night one of those parts was a new kernel i think
[11:51] <eV64_> preaction: thanks
[11:51] <cjlowe> Hi, I have an issue; wondering if I've been root-kitted... I'm remoted into this machine with SSH, and ps aux or netstat both seem to kill SSH. console access is not an option at this point. chkrootkit doesn't see anything bad, but I thought I should ask...
[11:51] <mipstien> i need help please, is there anywhere that linux stores a CD that you open up, i lost a bunch of pictures and that last place i had it was on this computer
[11:51] <ppd> hi. does anyone know a panel that uses the freedesktop.org menu specification?
[11:51] <Zenerek> truth i am not even done with all the updates
[11:51] <math> any ideas....?\
[11:51] <Lgndryhr> hi
[11:51] <__Lamont__> Jenn: I'm (right now) trying to replace the motherboard on my one Ubuntu box, so I can't try them - google for that or ask if anyone here knows how to find it, maybe -- just to see if you can confirm that Ubuntu IS running, and there's just an XWindows problem
[11:52] <hateyla> Zenerek,  asking same thing i want to upgrade my distro . dapper to edgy but my connection is slow .. so want to ask about resuming in upgrade distro.
[11:52] <Pollywog> Jenn: can you login at a console?
[11:52] <__Lamont__> Jenn: If you can find the right ocmmand, but can't login on the raw terminal, then your problem maybe isn't the monitor
[11:52] <someothernick> ctrl alt backspace
[11:52] <Lgndryhr> i am wondering if it is possible to allow my windows HD to see and access my ubuntu HD just to copy stuff from it like I am able to do in ubuntu
[11:53] <__Lamont__> Pollywog: That's what I was trying to get him to check, but I can't recall the command to switch to the console-only
[11:53] <cjlowe> Lgndryhr, go to www.fs-driver.org and install the ext2 driver :)
[11:53] <Skaag> Hey guys
[11:53] <Skaag> how do I install Ubuntu 6.10 with Raid1?
[11:53] <cjlowe> Lgndryhr, then go to the IFS Drives control panel and give your linux partition a drive letter
[11:53] <Pollywog> ctrl-alt-Fx
[11:53] <Skaag> I have two drives, I want a raid mirror configuration
[11:53] <Pollywog> ctrl-alt-F1 for example
[11:53] <alberto> Hallo
[11:53] <__Lamont__> Jenn: Did you get that?
[11:54] <Lgndryhr> k thanks cjlowe
[11:54] <Pollywog> is Jenn using Nvidia?
[11:54] <Zenerek> ok I understand what you mean now, I don't think you can resume, unless anyone wants to correct me? but i plan on staying with dapper anyway, it is supported till 2009, why do you want to change to edgy?
[11:54] <mipstien> This is Urgent please someone, is there any folder that linux uses to store things that you have opened from a CD???
[11:54] <bafoc> Pollywog: yes mx440 on a P-III 800mhz
[11:55] <ubuntu> e
[11:55] <cjlowe> mipstien, linux, like everything else, tends to just read straight from the cd
[11:55] <preaction> mipstien: no, you're screwed.
[11:55] <Pollywog> k and he/she edited the xorg.conf file?
[11:55] <hateyla> Zenerek,  heared about too much .. so want to try it too :p
[11:55] <__Lamont__> While I'm here.... anyone have experience with a Motherboard replacement -- seems the new MB doesn't see the OS... I'm thinking the Bootloader is gone
[11:55] <preaction> mipstien: or, check the /tmp directory?
[11:55] <mipstien> arg, probably just ruined my marriage :(
[11:55] <Pollywog> to replace nv with nvidia in xorg.conf
[11:55] <ubuntu> o srbi
[11:55] <jvai> nipstein, try your image viewer in "graphics"
[11:55] <bafoc> Pollywog No, she had to run the alternative installer because the liveCD wouldn't work
[11:55] <preaction> mipstien: maybe a program you opened the files up in stored something in your /tmp directory
[11:55] <Pollywog> k
[11:55] <hateyla> Zenerek,  same problem with me want to update dapper to edgy.. so want to ask about resuming. can i resume ?
[11:55] <xipietotec> has anyone ever setup an eggdrop in ubuntu? I have no idea where to put the config files?
[11:56] <Skaag> is there an alternative installer that can create a raid1 for me instead of seeing my /dev/sda and /dev/sba as two different drives?
[11:56] <hateyla> Zenerek,  sorry msg not for you.
[11:56] <Zano> Radeon x1900xtx, Core2Duo, Asus p5b motherboard and a Seagata barracuda HDD, Burnt the Ubuntu ISO to a disk and booted from it, chose "Start or install Ubuntu" was treated with the loadingscreen, which stayed the same for five minutes, then froze.. What did I do wrong?
[11:56] <Skaag> I do have a HostRaid adapter
[11:56] <Pollywog> bafoc has she tried to use the startx command in a console with the session manager off?
[11:56] <ubuntu> bad cd\
[11:56] <bafoc> Pollywog: Every time she boots the screen goes blank, even after going into single usermod, she won't get a command prompt..
[11:56] <hateyla> i want to upgrade my dapper to edgy 32bit.. but my connection is too much slow is there any possiblity to resume my update?
[11:56] <Zano> Bad CD? Oh, I'll try that "check your CD" thing
[11:56] <YokoZar> Ok, I make the Wine packages, could someone please tell me what the libgphoto2-2 issue is?
[11:57] <bafoc> Pollywog: She can't CTRL+ATL+F* to get a shell... the screen just stays black...
[11:57] <Pollywog> k
[11:57] <__Lamont__> Skaag: I thought the regualr Ubuntu installer would do Software RAID... I
[11:57] <ubuntu> or cd rom
[11:57] <Pollywog> got it
[11:57] <Frogzoo> hateyla: update is hit & miss anyway without restarting the process, it might work, it might not
[11:57] <Skaag> __Lamont__: It just sees my /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and does not give me that option.. asks me to choose one of them...
[11:58] <hateyla> Frogzoo,  if in updating time my Connections goes d/c then ? its going update from start?
[11:58] <__Lamont__> Skaag: I recall the process being tricky, but I have been under the impression that until my MB died, I had done it with Breezy
[11:58] <Skaag> __Lamont__: I ran mdadm myself and created the /dev/md0 device, and it's now creating a raid array using both drives
[11:58] <Zenerek> I know how slow dialup can be last night i had to download about 110 mb  it took 6 or seven hours and my dialup was as fast as it could go
[11:58] <harry__> The XDMCP Chooser from the login screen that lets you log into other computers won't show the other ubuntu box on the network
[11:59] <Skaag> __Lamont__: but until it's done creating the array, I won't know if the installer will actually see that logical volume...
[11:59] <Skaag> __Lamont__: do you remember if that's how it works?
[11:59] <killaz> one more time: can someone help me with the dual monitor on my gfx-card?
[11:59] <Pollywog> Jenn is this a laptop?
[11:59] <Frogzoo> hateyla: shouldn't do
[12:00] <Skaag> killaz: did you try the #ubuntu-xgl channel? the people there actually know more about that kinda thing
[12:00] <Skaag> killaz: there's also an nvidia specific channel
[12:00] <__Lamont__> Skaag: That sounds familiar - I even took some pics of one of my attempts (took me a few attempts to get it right as I recall... Unfortunatley they're on the drives on the server with the dead MB I'm trying to replace :p
[12:00] <hateyla> Frogzoo,  is any another way to update? with Resume?
[12:00] <Zano> ubuntu, i did a md5 checksum on the disk and theres no problem with it.
[12:00] <Skaag> __Lamont__: figures, just my kinda luck!! :)
[12:00] <Zano> I'll repeat my problem.
[12:00] <Frogzoo> hateyla: visit a friend with broadband?