[00:04] <stond> does anybody know what software to use to make an iso and read the files within an iso
[00:06] <reagleBRKLN> just tried a fresh kde 4.0.2 login and I get a kbuildsycoca4 crash and then only the desktop
[00:08] <Corty> hi
[00:09] <JoshOvki> !kde4 > reagleBRKLN
[00:10] <reagleBRKLN> ubotu, JoshOvki: yes, that announcement is what prompted me to install kde 4.0.2 -- and fail unfortunately
[00:11] <JoshOvki> reagleBRKLN: see #kubuntu-kde4  for support
[00:11] <reagleBRKLN> while i didn't stick with kde4 in the past (panel issues) I could use it.. now get kbuildsycoca4 crash on login
[00:11] <reagleBRKLN> thanks, will try
[00:12] <storbeck> reagleBRKLN: Update your repos, delete everything relative to kde4(old version), and re-install
[00:13] <storbeck> Or KDE3, depending on what you had
[00:13] <reagleBRKLN> storbeck: will try again i suppose
[00:13] <yao_ziyuan> some packages like Evolution i never use and they sometimes request to upgrade themselves. is it safe to remove Evolution?
[00:13] <reagleBRKLN> really, delete all kde3?
[00:13] <storbeck> reagleBRKLN: The KDE3 in your repos
[00:14] <storbeck> yao_ziyuan: Yes.
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> why in god's name should he remove all of kde3 to get kde4 working?  or am i missing something here?
[00:14] <yao_ziyuan> and how mature is kde4 now? maybe i should download kde4 packages
[00:14] <storbeck> Daisuke_ldo, the KDE 3 in his repos, not the installed KDE 3.
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> ahhhh
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i was missing something :)
[00:14] <cheeby> Dragnslcr: I found it.  it was mysql-sever.  just wasn't showing up in the GUI.
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> yao_ziyuan: not very, wait for 4.0.3 at the earliest
[00:15] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[00:15]  * cheeby is trying to run this as would his brother (in sales)
[00:15] <yao_ziyuan> i hope kde4 still has transparent taskbar
[00:15] <reagleBRKLN> storbeck: i'm not sure what you mean by, "in the repos"? i have lines for ubuntu guts, updates, and ppa
[00:15] <storbeck> You don't have any for KDE 3?
[00:15] <storbeck> Oh, nevermind. KDE 4 isn't even in the repos yet is it.
[00:16] <reagleBRKLN> not specifically, though once I put ppa in there, a couple KDE3 apps got updated to those versions
[00:16] <storbeck> Sorry, I was going off a SuSe forum where someone had the same problem. :D
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> the fate of things like Evolution and KTorrent is doomed by Thunderbird and the official BitTorrent client
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> what?
[00:17] <Jucato> !offtopic | yao_ziyuan
[00:17] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> what are you talking about?
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> i mean, if people use firefox,
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> they would probably also use thunderbird
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> and mozilla takes all
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> that's comparing apples to pleated pants
[00:18] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: don't carry it much further :)
[00:18] <reagleBRKLN> oh well, remove 4.0.2 for now, maybe 4.0.3! :)
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> reagleBRKLN: honestly, that would be my advice, there are a couple bugs that crept into 4.0.2
[00:18] <yao_ziyuan> people tend to adopt products with the same flavor
[00:18] <Jucato> reagleBRKLN: maybe the people in #kubuntu-kde4 know what's happening
[00:19] <Jucato> again yao_ziyuan, thia tis offtopic for this channel
[00:19] <Daisuke_Ido> reagleBRKLN: perhaps not remove it, but stick with kde 3 until 4.0.3 is released, then give it another shot, which is what i've been doing
[00:19] <Jucato> good...
[00:19] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: or 4.1, which is due next month iirc
[00:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, that is good news
[00:20] <storbeck> Yes, if I was a KDE fan I would for sure wait until 4.1
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> hopefully that makes it fully usable and a realistic replacement for 3.5.x
[00:20] <Jucato> depends on how much of a KDE fan you are :P
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> right now it feels kinda...  pinched.
[00:20] <Jucato> a hardcore one would have built KDE 4.1 from source now :P
[00:21] <storbeck> Hehe
[00:21] <Daisuke_Ido> like "we swear it's going to get better, but we had to give people SOMETHING"
[00:28] <megavatt> hi
[00:28] <tekteen> hi
[00:29] <megavatt> At me a problem at installation of driver NVIDIA for videocard GeeForce 6600
[00:29] <megavatt> all headers installed
[00:29] <tekteen> what did you do?
[00:30] <tekteen> are you using the restricted drivers manager?
[00:31] <alesan> hi which program can I use to write some text on a PDF file and then the newly created pdf?
[00:31] <alesan> and then *save* the new pdf?
[00:31] <tekteen> pdfedit I think
[00:32] <alesan> well... I tried that but... it's not working well at all
[00:32] <alesan> it seems to have a nivce interface but every edit I make need *many* seconds to be "accepted"
[00:33] <alesan> if only openoffice "draw" could import pdf documents
[00:33] <alesan> like corel draw used to do :)
[00:33] <tekteen> I don't know anything about it
[00:34] <alesan> ok thanks the same.
[00:52] <imaginenetx> hey all, question about the wlanassistant
[00:52] <imaginenetx> is there any way to enhance it? like, set preferred networks so I don't have to manually connect each time?
[00:58] <yago> does anyone know how to install compiz-fusion on kubuntu 7.10
[01:00] <tekteen> !compiz|yago
[01:00] <ubotu> yago: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:05] <imaginenetx> how can I update my apt-get repositories?
[01:05] <abortd> where is grub installed to?
[01:05] <imaginenetx> !apt-get
[01:05] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:09] <imaginenetx> !sources
[01:09] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[01:18] <BluesKaj> imaginenetx, adept is the apt package manager GUI ,Open Adept Package Manager. On the menu of that screen,click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the Kubuntu Software tab, check all the boxes with an "X". The same goes for the Third Party software tab. Close, and then in the terminal do : "sudo apt-get update". Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu.
[01:18] <Jucato> (wow! what a mouthful :P)
[01:19] <Jucato> BluesKaj: all boxes?
[01:19] <BluesKaj> nothing like copy & paste
[01:19] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:20] <BluesKaj> it uncomments them
[01:20]  * Jucato doesn't suggest "Unsupported updates" (backports) unless necessary
[01:21] <BluesKaj> when ppl complain about not enuff repos , one must oblige :)
[01:21] <Jucato> lol
[01:22] <BluesKaj> any suggestions about a disclaimer then, Jucato ?
[01:23] <naught102> any suggestions about how to get kooka working with SANE in hardy?
[01:25] <Jucato> BluesKaj: hm... disclaimer.. hm... other than stuff in backports are not guaranteed to work 100%. Use with caution
[01:25] <Jucato> naught102: try #ubuntu+1
[01:25] <BluesKaj> i hate to say this , but switch to windows to any scanning kooka and sane aren't up to the task with my HP scanner
[01:25] <Jucato> oh they work fine in Feisty
[01:26] <naught102> Jucato: I have, but no one in there ever has any idea about KDE, and there's no #kubuntu+1
[01:26] <Jucato> which was the last time I used it
[01:26] <BluesKaj> ok, Jucato I'll take that under advisement :)
[01:26] <naught102> BluesKaj: worked fine in gutsy with my mustek scanner
[01:26] <tekteen> naught102: #ubuntu+1 (even for kubuntu)
[01:26] <naught102> tekteen: see above
[01:27] <tekteen> ok
[01:27] <tekteen> nm
[01:27] <NickPresta> How would I check which repository a certain package comes from when doing a dist-upgrade? (I know apt-get -V dist-upgrade will show the version numbers).
[01:27] <BluesKaj> naught102, bummer about Hardy
[01:27] <Jucato> NickPresta: apt-cache policy <package>
[01:27] <Jucato> or was it apt-cache madison...
[01:28] <NickPresta> Jucato, ah. So there is no way to do it while you're upgrading (for all packages being upgraded)?
[01:29] <Jucato> you can try checking while it's downloading, but no, not that I know of
[01:29] <NickPresta> okay.
[01:29] <NickPresta> I suppose -sV will work
[01:32] <BluesKaj> naught102, my scanner worked alright , the results were just too dark and no altering of settings could fix the problem
[01:34] <Dr_willis_> BluesKaj,  for my scanner/needs - Windows was just a disaster compared to linux. :) guess it depends on the scanner.
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> I just found it odd.. that for windows i had to download a 124+mb driver package for my printer/scanner/combo -  :) that included all this Junk that  dident need.. and that dident work.  Like i needed HP's photo/doc/whatever tool.. (which i might add dont work in vista) heh..
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> Vista included the priner/scanner drivers.. but only with 1/2 the features disabled..  Who Needs those fancy scan/print buttons to work under vista anyway! :)
[01:36]  * Dr_willis_ is done ranting.
[01:40] <BluesKaj> yes Dr_willis, it certainly looks that way , unless my learning curve is just too steep with kooka :)
[01:43] <luckey> is there a way to set nautilus as my defualt system browser in kubuntu?
[01:44] <luckey> hello>
[01:44] <luckey> ?
[01:44] <luckey> i just want to set nautilus as my browser, I don't like dolphin
[01:45] <Jucato> how about Konqueror? :)
[01:45] <Jucato> !d3lphin | luckey
[01:45] <ubotu> luckey: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[01:45] <Jucato> same procedure, except look for Nautilus instead of Konqueror in the list
[01:46] <luckey> thanks!
[01:50] <shadowflier> I have a problem and I know there is somewhere an answer on the forums but I cant find it, its about the wireless card, I know that I am upposed to get the windows drivers and then install it using ndiswrapper, but I dont even know how to get that, help? :)
[01:51] <NickPresta> !ndiswrapp | shadowflier
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswrapp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <NickPresta> !ndiswrapper | shadowflier
[01:51] <ubotu> shadowflier: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:51] <shadowflier> well thanks
[01:51] <NickPresta> shadowflier, specifically ndiswrapper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[01:53] <gannon8> On the Adept Program Installer, why are the programs greyed out?
[01:54] <gannon8> Is there anyone who is alive here?
[01:55] <gannon8> guess not.
[01:55] <draik> Hello all
[01:56] <draik> Is there an alternative to k9Copy?
[01:56] <NickPresta> draik, is there a problem with k9copy or are you just looking for an alternative?
[01:57] <draik> NickPresta: k9Copy keeps crashing. The time of completion is escalating and dies around the eleventh hour
[01:57] <Daisuke-Laptop> draik: are you looking to go from dvd9>dvd5 or from dvd>xvid/h264/whatever ?
[01:57] <draik> dvd>iso
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> draik: it could very well be the disc
[01:58] <draik> All of them?
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> hmm
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[01:58] <NickPresta> There is 'dvdbackup'
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> there's also dvd95
[01:58] <NickPresta> I use k9copy. It hasn't failed for me *shrugs*
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> same
[01:59] <Daisuke-Laptop> even in gnome, that, k3b, amarok, and konversation are the four apps i can't live without
[02:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> and ktorrent.  the five, FIVE apps i can't live without are k9copy, k3b, amarok, konversation, and ktorrent (please forgive me for ripping off the python.)
[02:01] <draik> I'm all for k3b, amarok, konversation, ktorrent and k9copy, but k9copy is just not working as it should.
[02:01] <draik> Yes, I have libdvdcss2 installed
[02:01] <NickPresta> draik, there is also 'acidrip' and 'dvdrip'. I don't know if those will do what you want though.
[02:01] <Daisuke-Laptop> dvdrip will not
[02:01] <Daisuke-Laptop> i use that for dvd > avi
[02:02] <Daisuke-Laptop> check dvd95, dvdbackup
[02:06] <the_darkside_986> What exactly is the command for making Kaffeine or mplayer play Windows Media Video files in Kubuntu? i mean i hate WMV as much as anyone else but if mplayer can't play it then i can't convert it.
[02:07] <dent-42> sorry to butt in the conversation. Doesn't VLC play WMV files ?
[02:08] <unix_lappy> vlc plays virtually everything, so does mplayer
[02:08] <dent-42> what i thought
[02:10] <imaginenetx> !update repositories
[02:10] <dent-42> Darkside_989: have you installed  w32codecs ??
[02:10] <the_darkside_986> well, some wmv files seem to play. not sure if my file got corrupted or what, but it is *.wmv and the sound plays but no video.
[02:11] <the_darkside_986> well "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" says the package is obsolete or missing.
[02:11] <the_darkside_986> right now i am downloading the tarball from mplayerhq but i can't remember where they go in the directory tree (usr/local/??? somthing)
[02:12] <crimsun> /usr/lib/win32
[02:12] <the_darkside_986> ok
[02:12] <the_darkside_986> i knew it was something like that.
[02:12] <Jucato> the_darkside_986: w32codecs is not in the official Ubuntu repositories
[02:12] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[02:12] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:12] <dent-42> ok, well you could try adding mediubuntu to your repository i think w32codes is in there with other codecs
[02:13] <dent-42> ah beat me to it :-P
[02:13] <the_darkside_986> ok thanks.
[02:13] <jinzougen> I'm compiling something with latex for the first time on my kubuntu install. Latex didn't find setspace.sty so I downloaded it from CTAN, but it's complaining about not finding a \begin{document} when there obviously is one... can anyone help or should I ask this in a latex channel?
[02:13] <dent-42> try this  Darkside_986:      sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[02:13] <dent-42> and then :
[02:14] <dent-42> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[02:14] <dent-42> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[02:14] <the_darkside_986> also, is there a way to enter unicode characters in KDE? i know that Gnome has some kind of character combo and a char map app.
[02:15] <dent-42> darkside_986: that one i cant be much help on, sorry
[02:15] <the_darkside_986> well i've got the mplayer binary codec tarball almost done so i'll probably try to use it. if that doesn't work then it means my file was corrupted :(
[02:16] <dent-42> darkside: but try what i posted above to get the w32codecs it solved alot of problems for me
[02:16] <the_darkside_986> i suppose i should open up KDevelop and write an app for inserting unicode. but i don't know how unicode works in that environment. I wish there were Qt bindings in D. D is the only real language that has proper unicode support IMO.
[02:17] <Jucato> (well C++ has, through some libraries like Boost afaik)
[02:17] <ksut> hey, has anyone here heard any reports of oom-killer going nuts when there's plenty of memory free? (not to mention swap)
[02:18] <crimsun> ksut: sure, but that question lacks just about all reasonable detail.
[02:38] <val0> i am trying to rdp into a computer (Vista) from a Kubuntu machine and I get the "connection attempt to host failed" error. I know that RDP and Remode Desktop is enabled on the remote machine. I am VPNed in to the network and I can successfully ping the remote machine :S. The firewall on the remote machine is off... Any ideas what it can be?
[02:43] <drbrown> is kubuntu hardy pretty buggy?
[02:44] <drbrown> is it pretty stable
[02:44] <val0> drbrown: probably better than anything else you'll find on the market
[02:44] <Jucato> alpha 5 was just released
[02:45] <drbrown> I am having probs with my sata hard drive with feisty
[02:45] <drbrown> it is showing up as an IDE drive and is seriously taxing my performance
[02:46] <Jucato> have you tried upgrading to gutsy?
[02:46] <drbrown> I am sorry, I am running gutsy
[02:47] <life> Hey, anyone know what's up with amarok throwing a "cannot currently play mp3" message?
[02:48] <val0> life: do you have the restricted extras installed?
[02:48] <life> val0: Uhm, not sure how I would go about doing that, so I guess not, heh.
[02:49] <life> val0: Might you be able to guide me in the right direction?
[02:50] <val0> life: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:50] <life> Neat, I appreciate it!
[02:50] <val0> life: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:50] <val0> life: see if that works if not let us know
[02:51] <life> val0: Sure! I just switched to Kubuntu today from XP, giving it a whirl and not quite yet familiar with everything just yet.
[02:52] <val0> life: lol i went through the process a while back
[02:52] <jcgkffycs> val0: I seem to remember having to apt-get install Kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:52] <val0> life:  the key to success is the ubuntu forum
[02:52] <val0> jcgkffycs: sorry not sure what you mean
[02:52] <val0> life: you'll find most of what you need there and if not there than here
[02:53] <jcgkffycs> ubuntu-restricted-extras might not work with amarok
[02:54] <life> And also! Is there a quick and easy way of updating programs (such as amarok currently)
[02:54] <jcgkffycs> it might only install support for rythmbox and the other gnome apps,not the kde.
[02:54] <val0> jcgkffycs: i had that same error and when i installed it worked for me
[02:54] <val0> amarok runns on xine i believe and that needs the restricted extras but i could be wrong
[02:54] <life> Hmm, the problem persists!
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> the exact package for mp3 codecs is libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu-restricted-extras is reccomended though
[02:55] <Tann> I was wondering where the alsa-base configuration files are
[02:55] <jcgkffycs> yea, try apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:55] <jcgkffycs> that should work with amarok
[02:55] <life> Cool, giving it a go.
[02:55] <val0> life: what's the actually error message?
[02:55] <root_______> hola
[02:56] <root_______> como estan
[02:56] <life> Hmmm
[02:56] <life> It says "Amarok currently cannot play MP3 files."
[02:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> root_____________ para poder recibir ayuda en espanol, ve a #kubuntu-es.
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> life: you need to restart amarok after getting that package
[02:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> pero, estamos bien.
[02:56] <jcgkffycs> you might need to restart amarok before it will catch the new codecs
[02:57] <val0> !es
[02:57] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:57] <life> Hmmm, still get the same message after restarting.
[02:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, add the xine extra plugins
[02:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> then restart amarok.
[02:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> val0, you are late, I explained that already.
[02:57] <life> How might I get these packages?
[02:57] <tlayton> i think the restricted-extras installs mp3 support for k3b
[02:58] <gundam_rx78nt1> hold on a sec
[02:58] <val0> gundam_rx78nt1: not again
[02:58] <val0> i am always late for that!
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> life: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[02:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> also install the libxine1-plugins
[02:59] <val0> nosrednaekim: he should have that package by now :D he got that command about 4 times from us already :D
[02:59] <life> nosrednaekin: I think that's the same command I just ran
[02:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, do you have the libxine1-plugins installed?
[02:59] <wswindell> hello
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> hehe...
[02:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> hello wswindell?
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> I thought he just asked how to get them...
[03:00] <life> Hold on, lemme check.
[03:00] <wswindell> yo
[03:00] <life> nosrednaekim: Nope!
[03:00] <life> nosrednaekim: Don't have them.
[03:00] <wswindell> Help?!
[03:00] <val0> life: you don't have what?
[03:00] <life> Nor do I have the libxine1-ffmpeg either
[03:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> wswindell, just ask
[03:00] <life> The libxine1-plugins
[03:01] <wswindell> i messed up my APT locations and can't use synaptics or adept
[03:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, just install that.  That helped with mp3 playback for me.
[03:01] <wswindell> install what
[03:01] <life> gundam_rx78nt1: Heh, how might I install it?
[03:01] <life> Very sorry, not too sure how this stuff works yet.
[03:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> sudo apt-get install libxine1-plugins
[03:01] <wswindell> hold on
[03:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> wswindell: that was for life
[03:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> wswindell: that will not help your problem
[03:02] <jcgkffycs> life: dumb question are you really killed amarok when you restrated it? Remember it keeps running even if you close the window, you need to press ctrl+ Q
[03:02] <wswindell>  Malformed line 76 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[03:02] <wswindell> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:02] <wswindell> that is waht it said
[03:02] <Tann> where are alsa-base configuration files located
[03:02] <life> jcgkffycs: Yeah, I right clicked/quit on the little icon in the taskbar.
[03:03] <wswindell> gundam_rx78nt1?
[03:03] <life> gundam_rx78nt1: Hmm, it seems like it won't install because of certain 'unmet dependencies'
[03:03] <wswindell> Anyone know how to install limewire? my GDebi package installer is crap
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: line 76 is messed up... could you pastebin the file?
[03:04] <wswindell> what do you mean, i am new to Ubuntu Linux
[03:04] <NickPresta> wswindell, I suggest FrostWire instead. Virtually the same, except more freedom :)
[03:04] <NickPresta> !frostwire | wswindell
[03:04] <ubotu> wswindell: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:04] <wswindell> thanx
[03:04] <wswindell> konqueror web browser sucks
[03:05] <NickPresta> wswindell, that is a matter of opinion.
[03:05] <wswindell> you-re right
[03:05] <life> Unmet dependencies or something; a line of it is Depends: libxine1-ffmpeg but it is not going to be installed
[03:05] <wswindell> i am spoiled by Firefox
[03:05] <wswindell> what country are you guys from, i am from USA
[03:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg and then install the libxine1-plugins
[03:06] <NickPresta> wswindell, there are a variety of places represented here.
[03:06] <life> gundam_rx78nt1: It won't let me install libxine1-ffmpeg ... it quotes a bunch more dependencies
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> life: do you have the restricted repository enabled in adept?
[03:06] <wswindell> i am only a 14 year old Visual Basic programmer, so use easier jargon
[03:07] <tlayton> wswindell: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , enter contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list, then paste the URL here
[03:07] <life> nosrednaekim: I think so. I enabled the ones with (multiverse) and (universe) behind 'em.
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file so I can see what the problem is
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> life: you need restricted too
[03:08] <wswindell> i can't access any of these things through adept or synaptics, so how else
[03:08] <life> nosrednaekim: while I'm at it, should (main) be enabled as well?
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> life: certainly.!
[03:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> you don't have main enabled?
[03:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> ouch.
[03:08] <life> nosrednaekim: Neat. After this, the apt-get installs should work?
[03:09] <life> Well, apparently not, heh.
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> life: yes:)
[03:09] <NickPresta> wswindell, press alt+f2. Type in: kate /etc/apt/sources.list. Copy that text to the pastebin. Provide us with the pastebin location.
[03:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> enable it, enable it.
[03:09] <wswindell> HELP! My GDebi Package Installer will do nothing cause of the APT resources list
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> life: enable them all (except source)
[03:09] <life> Hurrah, the install thingy's working!
[03:09] <NickPresta> wswindell, we're trying to help you. You need to help us in return by following the instructions we give you.
[03:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> "install thingy"? LOL.  sorry been up for 48 hours.
[03:10] <life> ;)
[03:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> work and can't sleep.
[03:10] <wswindell> which text should i copy?
[03:10] <life> Ooouch.
[03:10] <NickPresta> wswindell, all the text. The whole file.
[03:10] <wswindell> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1)]/ gutsy main restricted
[03:10] <wswindell> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[03:10] <wswindell> # newer versions of the distribution.
[03:10] <wswindell> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[03:10] <wswindell> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[03:10] <life> Rofl.
[03:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> oops. no pastebin
[03:11] <life> Ah! The sweet sound of music ;) Thanks so much you guys!
[03:11] <NickPresta> wswindell, you need to paste that into a pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:11] <wswindell> whats pastebin, im sorry
[03:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, isn't it sweeter with music?
[03:11] <life> Much, much :D
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> life: awesome :)
[03:11] <wswindell> you guys are awesome
[03:11] <life> By the way, is there some way I might update programs (such as amarok)?
[03:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> smiling as he is listening to Jack Johnson.
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> life: well, there won't be any major updates, only bug-fixes
[03:12] <jcgkffycs> they all get auto updated by adept
[03:12] <wswindell> i pasted it
[03:12] <NickPresta> life, if your package manager (either Adept or Synaptic) don't have any updates then you're using the most up-to-date version available in the repositories.
[03:12] <NickPresta> wswindell, you need to provide us with the pastebin URL
[03:12] <wswindell> sorry, duh
[03:13] <wswindell> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58566/
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> life: the major "version" upgrades are usually between the releases of kubuntu. i.e. if you only have amarok 1.4.8 in gutsy, you will have to wait for hardy to get 1.4.9
[03:13] <NickPresta> wswindell, I assume you didn't have an internet connection when you were installing?
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> life: in general... sometimes they backport things
[03:14] <wswindell> installed kubuntu?
[03:14] <val0> what's a good app to mount iso/uif/etc files?
[03:14] <NickPresta> wswindell, yep.
[03:14] <wswindell> no
[03:15] <wswindell> no internet connection NickPresta
[03:15] <life> Ah, thanks!
[03:15] <jcgkffycs> val0: I think you can just use loop mount, their should be some instructions somehwere on the forums.
[03:15] <Arwen> val0, /bin/mount
[03:15] <NickPresta> wswindell, you have no internet connection on your Kubuntu machine?
[03:16] <val0> and that would mount an iso or uif file?
[03:16] <wswindell> i do now, but not while installing Kubuntu Linux
[03:16] <NickPresta> wswindell, ah okay. That's fine
[03:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> well, it's time for me to go to bed.
[03:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> see ya later.
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1: sleep well :)
[03:16] <wswindell> so what should I do now NickPresta
[03:17] <life> How might I install new programs and such in Kubuntu?
[03:17] <NickPresta> wswindell, I'm fixng up your sources.list.
[03:17] <Arwen> life, with apt
[03:17] <NickPresta> wswindell, give me a moment
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: close that kate window and run "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit the file as admin.
[03:17] <life> Adept?
[03:17] <wswindell> sure
[03:17] <Tann> does anyone know where the configuration files for alsa-base are?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> life: adept works great
[03:18] <life> nosrednaekim: Hmmm. I'm not quite sure how it works so I guess I'll test it out. What's a good program to install first?
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> life: firefox :)
[03:18] <life> nosrednaekim: Excellent idea!
[03:18] <Arwen> life, I recommend installing "hello"
[03:18] <life> Arwen: Hello?
[03:19] <Arwen> "hello" - it's the name of a package, install it and see
[03:19] <life> Heh. I'll do it after firefox!
[03:19] <life> So, to install firefox I click on the firefox package and click "request install"?
[03:19] <wswindell> nosrednaekim: i did as you advised
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: ok, erase the last line of that file
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> the limewire one
[03:19] <wswindell> kay
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> and save it
[03:20] <life> And then "apply changes?"
[03:20] <wswindell> line erased
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> life: yup
[03:20] <life> That was easy.
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: save it and exit kate
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> life: indeed.... its dead simple.
[03:20] <life> Amazing! :)
[03:20] <wswindell> okay nosrednaekim
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> life: there are 25000 packages... pretty much anything will be in there
[03:21] <life> nosrednaekim: Hehe. And you don't have to scrounge the internet for 'em.
[03:21] <NickPresta> wswindell, you have kate open (using kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list) correct?
[03:21] <wswindell> what should i do know
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: just told him to close it ;) he erased the bad line
[03:21] <wswindell> yes
[03:21] <life> nosrednaekim: Might you know of a nice IM application as well?
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> life: you don't like kppete?
[03:22] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, he everything else commented out because the repos couldn't be verified (because he didn't have an internet connection during install time)
[03:22] <life> nosrednaekim: Haven't really tried it out to be honest, hehe.
[03:22] <wswindell> nosrednaekim, it is open
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: thats probably best fixed from within adept.
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> life: well, if you don't like it, try out pidgin
[03:23] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, wswindell, here is an updated sources.list (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58567/). You can choose to replace your sources.list (from within kate) or you can use Adept and Enable the proper repositories.
[03:23] <jcgkffycs> life: kopete is pre installed in kubuntu, it supports aim and pretty much everything else.
[03:23] <wswindell> how to do that
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: do what?
[03:23] <wswindell> what NickPresta is saying to do
[03:23] <life> Neat!
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: which one?
[03:24] <bluefoxx> do i need a plugin to play iso dvd file images in kaffeine?
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: probably libdvdcss
[03:24] <jcgkffycs> life: should be under internet in kmenu
[03:24] <wswindell> THIS ONE: nosrednaekim, wswindell, here is an updated sources.list (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58567/). You can choose to replace your sources.list (from within kate) or you can use Adept and Enable the proper repositories.
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: but there are two options there.....
[03:24] <wswindell> ok
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> the last one is probably easiest.... close kate, run adept_manager->adept->manage repositories and check all of the repositories on.
[03:25] <jinzougen> I really need help with latex. Latex's dvi output files seem to be in a4 paper, which isn't what I want. dvipdf outputs letterpaper but the top and bottom margins are too small and large respectively.
[03:25] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: i have that, i can play dvds,  but it doesnt do for kaffeine, i think i need to find a way to link /dev/cdrom into /dev/dvd, as i upgraded to a dvd burner but it still identifies as /dev/cdrom
[03:25] <jinzougen> dvips outputs a perfect postscript given the dvi
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> thats normal bluefoxx
[03:25] <NickPresta> wswindell, it is probably best for you to enable the various sources in Adept. Open up adept manager. File > Manage Repositories > Check off what you want (probably all of them)
[03:26] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: so is there a fix?im no longer using a plain 24x cdrom drive[nor do i plan to on this rig anymore]
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: FYI, the menu option is "adept"not file.... rather non-standard I know.
[03:26] <jinzougen> ps2pdf has the same problem as dvipdf
[03:26] <wswindell> they are already checked, uncheck them?
[03:26] <vikku> can someone help me install build-essential iam getting following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58568/
[03:26] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, ah okay. I haven't used Adept manager in a couple years :)
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: so mean you can't play normal dvd's?
[03:26] <NickPresta> wswindell, no, they can remain checked.
[03:27] <wswindell> okay, next/
[03:27] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: i can, but i prefere to rip them and im trying to find out what the last file on a dvd iso image is that i borrowed from a friend, thus i have no access to the dvd it came from and cant check from there
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: close the dialog and click the reload button on the main screen
[03:28] <bluefoxx> im using thoggen to rip from disk five of the third season of inuyasha
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: that, my freind,would be pirating, and we do not help with that...
[03:29] <wswindell> reload in adept
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: yup.
[03:29] <wswindell> where is that located
[03:29] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: im not pirating...im only ripping the dvd to my hard disk, to watch at my leisure[rather than having to go dig up a disk from my mess of a floor]
[03:29] <wswindell> sorry, teh adept manager or package installer
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: the button reload or the app itself?
[03:30] <Strangelet> does anyone here know of a good KDE webcam application?
[03:30] <yao_ziyuan> it seems my kubuntu is eating half of my disk (80G) now
[03:30] <wswindell> any help installing wine?
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> is there any methods to clean up some temp files?
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> or cache files?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: sure.... "sudo apt-get install wine"
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> yao_ziyuan: "sudo apt-get clean"
[03:31] <wswindell> i'll try that
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> nosrednaekim: i tried
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: close adept first though....
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> what about others?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> if you have it open
[03:31] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, I find it hard to believe you have 40G of temp. files.
[03:31] <the_darkside_986> well, no, you should probably go to Wine's website and get the Ubuntu repository. it is more updated. 9.56 just came out
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: i don't know why it eats up so quickly.
[03:31] <wswindell> i am using gusty gibbon
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> Bye guys
[03:32] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: would it make a difference if i changed my story to i want to watch the iso of a dvd my class made and dont have access to the dvd cause its broken? cause im trying to do that too...
[03:32] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, what does: `sudo du -sh /var` output?
[03:32] <bluefoxx> lol
[03:32] <the_darkside_986> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: ^_^ ok.....so the dvd drive is not working?
[03:33] <the_darkside_986> of course, each Wine release usually breaks half the programs, but the default Wine on Ubuntu disk is probably ancient by now...
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: sorry, I really have to go...
[03:34] <NickPresta> bye nosrednaekim
[03:34] <bluefoxx> >>
[03:34] <bluefoxx> and yes, i should !lol | bluefoxx
[03:34] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: 260M
[03:34] <wswindell> my GDebi package installer always crashes when something starts to install
[03:35] <yao_ziyuan> i also find that realplayer might be suspicious
[03:35] <wswindell> any help
[03:35] <onerom> we
[03:35] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, first, I would figure out where the majority of your disk space is being used up before you decide it is your temp. files.
[03:36] <wswindell> I have the greatest Visual Basic teacher in the world, Mr. Doug Leisher!
[03:36] <NickPresta> wswindell, that's good. What do you need help with?
[03:36] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: it's ubuntu 7.10 base system + kubuntu-desktop + ubuntu-desktop + virtualbox + a win xp virtual machine whose virtual disk is dynamic and <=8GB
[03:36] <yao_ziyuan> and some big games:
[03:36] <yao_ziyuan> TORCS,
[03:37] <yao_ziyuan> Freedroid RPG
[03:37] <yao_ziyuan> several tux racers
[03:37] <wswindell> my gdebi always crashes when i start to install a .deb app
[03:38] <yao_ziyuan> is there a program that can tell me the least used packages and the bloatware among them?
[03:38] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, I would download `filelight`. It should provide you with some visual representation of where the majority of your disk space is being used.
[03:38] <NickPresta> wswindell, if you have a deb file, you can try: sudo dpkg -i DEBFILE.deb
[03:38] <NickPresta> wswindell, replacing DEBFILE with the name of the file, obviously
[03:39] <wswindell> okay, another question, How do i use .exe files with wine?
[03:39] <NickPresta> wswindell, wine EXEFILE.exe.
[03:39] <life> Hmmm. Is there a way to install flash for firefox?
[03:40] <wswindell> will that work with an setup file, such as "furcdownload.exe"
[03:40] <Tetracomm> I upgraded to KDE 4, and it logs back out right after logging in. Could someone help me?
[03:40] <mneptok> life: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:40] <Jucato> life: install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[03:40] <mneptok> !kde4 > Tetracomm
[03:40] <Jucato> Tetracomm: um... try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 if anyone else has the problem
[03:40] <NickPresta> wswindell, it depends on the application. You could try it
[03:40] <Jucato> Tetracomm: when you log in to a KDE3 session, does the same thing happen?
[03:41] <life> Neat, thanks!
[03:41] <Jucato> !appdb | wswindell
[03:41] <ubotu> wswindell: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:41] <Tetracomm> Jucato: No, KDE 3.5 works fine for me.
[03:41] <wswindell> the apps home page said it would work with wine, but i am stuck
[03:41] <Jucato> Tetracomm: ok then, #kubuntu-kde4 for you
[03:41] <Jucato> wswindell: #winehq is the place to be for wine questions
[03:42] <life> Hmm, it says 'flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.'
[03:42] <wswindell> thanks
[03:43] <Jucato> life: in Firefox, try typing "about:plugins" in the address bar and check whether Flash is detected
[03:43] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: i now have run filelight
[03:43] <life> jucato: It says no plugins are installed!
[03:43] <Jucato> O.o
[03:43] <Jucato> life: how did you install firefox and from where?
[03:44] <life> jucator: Just installed it from adept is all.
[03:44] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: /dev/sda1 has a total of 66.9GB and used 19,111MB
[03:44] <yao_ziyuan> which sounds reasonable
[03:44] <Jucato> life: weird... have you restarted Firefox after installing Flash?
[03:44] <life> jucato: Well, it didn't really install. It just said that it's already the latest version. And I had firefox off when installing it.
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> i also have some other "disks" each has a size of 506 MB
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> /var/run
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> /var/lock
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> /dev/shm
[03:45] <Jucato> life: Flash is probably already installed if it says that. not sure why Firefox can't detect it
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile
[03:45] <Jucato> life: are you using Kubuntu Gutsy or Hardy?
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan>  /var/lock
[03:45] <Jucato> !flood | yao_ziyuan
[03:45] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:45] <life> Jucato: Gutsy
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> ah! i know why now!
[03:46] <Jucato> life: really weird....
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> because there are 15 movies...
[03:46] <life> Hmmmm
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> and a hardy 5 iso
[03:47] <wswindell> where should i save my windows program files at
[03:47] <wswindell> in wine
[03:48] <wswindell> you guys are the best
[03:48] <Jucato> wswindell: hm?
[03:48] <wswindell> never mind
[03:48] <life> Jucato: Any ideas?
[03:48] <Jucato> you can save .exe files anywhere you want. once installed, they are installed in ~/.wine
[03:49] <Jucato> (or specifically ~/.wine/drive_c/)
[03:49] <Jucato> life: none unfortunately
[03:54] <Jucato> yay for netsplits!
[03:55] <life> Hmmm. Stupid firefox...
[03:59] <storbeck> Must have been lunch break time
[04:06] <freeksh0w86> would anyone happen to know the syntax for adding italic style to a font property in SCiTE?
[04:06] <freeksh0w86> i'm using it on Kubuntu 7.10
[04:07] <freeksh0w86> it is the only decent editor that properly understands D syntax. Kwrite goofs up when it sees an escaped quote \" in a string literal
[04:10] <storbeck> the_darkside_986: http://scintilla.sourceforge.net/SciTEDoc.html
[04:10] <life> Sigh.
[04:10] <the_darkside_986> nvm i finally figured it out but thanks. i found that doc before and it wasn't very useful
[04:11] <the_darkside_986> but i wish KWrite and Kate had better syntax highlighting for D.
[04:15] <storbeck> What is D?
[04:15] <storbeck> A programming language?
[04:17] <Unoriginal> yes
[04:17] <storbeck> Hrm, I've never heard of it
[04:17] <Unoriginal> now you have
[04:18] <storbeck> Heh, I suppose so.
[04:19] <life> How might I compile a tar.bz2 file?
[04:21] <Arwen> life, a tar.bz2 is a tarball compressed with bzip2. It's just a bunch of files, so asking how to compile it is meaningless.
[04:22] <life> Ooh.
[04:24] <sharik> ssssssss
[04:24] <the_darkside_986> @storbeck : yeah, D is an awesome programming language, a low-level systems programming language like C++ except it has awesome features of C#, Java, etc.
[04:25] <storbeck> Ah, nice
[04:25] <the_darkside_986> the gnu compiler for it, gdc, is in the Kubuntu repos.
[04:25] <the_darkside_986> but i don't use that version.
[04:25] <Erickj92> when i try to do "sudo apt-get install packagehere" i get an error. here is the error on pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/929942 . any ideas?
[04:26] <Arwen> Erickj92, your repositories are fubar. Pastebin your sources.list (and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d)
[04:26] <storbeck> Did you try apt-get -f install ?
[04:26] <Erickj92> Arwen, fubar?
[04:26] <Arwen> never mind that...
[04:26] <Erickj92> storbeck, yes. and it just came with more errors
[04:27] <sandro__> I need help installing a wireless card driver on my friends computer, the wireless card isn't detected and lspci gave the following output for the wirelss card: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01), can anyone help?
[04:28] <Erickj92> Arwen, ill have my sources.list on pastebin in a second
[04:28] <life> sandro__: do you have the make/model of the card?
[04:28] <sandro__> isn't that in the lspci output?
[04:30] <Erickj92> Arwen:  http://www.pastebin.ca/929950
[04:31] <Arwen> Erickj92, probably the maintainer of the kde4 PPA has, well, broken his packages either for the time being or permanently.
[04:31] <Erickj92> what do i do?
[04:31] <Erickj92> because i dont want KDE4
[04:31] <Erickj92> if thats the prob
[04:31] <Arwen> wait it out, remove that entry, purge KDE4, or fix it yourself I'd say
[04:31] <Arwen> one of those four
[04:32] <Erickj92> Arwen, do into Adept and remove that respitory i added for KDE4?
[04:32] <Erickj92> go into**
[04:32] <Arwen> yeah, but you might need to still remove/revert already broken packages
[04:33] <Arwen> (oh, and I'd contact that PPA maintainer and see if he has suggestions_
[04:33] <Erickj92> how do i tell which are broken?
[04:33] <Arwen> adept should tell you, but I don't use it...
[04:33] <Erickj92> ok, thanks a ton man
[04:33]  * Erickj92 is a noob with kubuntu still
[04:34] <_aib> I've got a serious problem. My filesystem has gone Read-only and I've got an application open with unsaved data. What can I do?
[04:35] <sandro__> allright I've looked deeper
[04:36] <sandro__> he has an Atheros AR5006EG
[04:36] <Erickj92> _aib, you could post it privatly on the internet
[04:36] <Erickj92> to save the data atleaste
[04:36] <_aib> good idea
[04:36] <_aib> thanks
[04:36] <sandro__> and I got here http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros
[04:36] <_aib> wait...i can't! the application needs to save it to a file
[04:36] <_aib> man..this sucks
[04:37] <Erickj92> what do you mean it needs to save it to a file?
[04:37] <Erickj92> Arwen, how to i fix the broken pakages? I already removed the repitory, but am still getting the error when i do apt-get install.
[04:37] <_aib> it's a 3D simulator and I made a ton of progress last night and then went to bed. in order to save that progress, I need to save the state of the simulator, which has to be written in its own format to a file
[04:38] <Erickj92> i see
[04:38] <Arwen> Erickj92, eh, removing kde4-core should fix it
[04:38] <yao_ziyuan> what 3d effects does kubuntu offer?
[04:38] <Arwen> (I'd hope)
[04:38] <Erickj92> Arwen, sudo apt-get remove kde4-core?
[04:38] <Arwen> yao_ziyuan, kwin compositing, software effects, and compiz
[04:38] <Erickj92> yao_ziyuan, i use compiz
[04:38] <yao_ziyuan> how?
[04:38] <Arwen> Erickj92, probably "apt-get -f remove kde4-core" but make sure to read through it carefully
[04:39] <Arwen> !composite | yao_ziyuan
[04:39] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[04:39] <yao_ziyuan> what packages should i install?
[04:39] <Arwen> kwin composite is in the window management section of the control panel
[04:39] <Arwen> and so are the software effects
[04:40] <wswindell> anyone know how to install limewire
[04:40] <Erickj92> Arwen, still not working
[04:40] <Arwen> hmm, what happen?
[04:40] <Arwen> !limewire | wswindell
[04:40] <ubotu> wswindell: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:40] <wswindell> know how to install limewire from Konsole/Terminal
[04:40] <Arwen> though it kind of sucks...
[04:40] <Erickj92> i did the sudo apt-get -f remove kde4-core
[04:41] <Erickj92> and it gave errors again
[04:41] <yao_ziyuan> i can find: animate window maximizing/minimizing
[04:41] <Arwen> please elaborate
[04:41] <yao_ziyuan> translucency
[04:41] <wswindell> what code
[04:41] <Arwen> wswindell, read the link perhaps?
[04:41] <_aib> is there some way i can mount a usb drive without the ability to create a folder in /mnt because my drive is Read-only?
[04:41] <Erickj92> arwen, the same errors in the first pastebin
[04:41] <_aib> does anyone have a creative way for me to save this file with my file system being read only?
[04:41] <Arwen> hrmm
[04:41] <Erickj92> Arwen:  http://www.pastebin.ca/929942
[04:42] <yao_ziyuan> where do i find Control Center?
[04:42] <yao_ziyuan> i only see System Settings
[04:42] <wswindell> Screw Zhou Yu Of Wu
[04:42] <yao_ziyuan> ...
[04:43] <Erickj92> wswindell, what?
[04:43] <Arwen> Erickj92, try opening adept and removing those packages that error out with "depends on blah blah blah"
[04:43] <Erickj92> ok
[04:43] <wswindell> oh, nothing
[04:43] <Erickj92> thanks
[04:43] <yao_ziyuan> i only see Window Behavior in System Settings
[04:43] <yao_ziyuan> where is the Control Center?
[04:43] <wswindell> just going pyscodelic
[04:44] <Erickj92> Arwen, it is showing me in adept that all the KDE4 packages are broken. heh
[04:44] <wswindell> again, how to install limewire from the konsole
[04:45] <Erickj92> wswindell, sudo apt-get intsall limewire?
[04:45] <wswindell> tried thst already
[04:45] <wswindell> doesnt work
[04:45] <Erickj92> then im stumped
[04:45] <wswindell> thanx anyway, did it work for you
[04:45] <Unoriginal> sudo apt-get install frostwire
[04:46] <wswindell> do i have to add limewire to the repositories?
[04:46] <Unoriginal> no
[04:46] <Unoriginal> you have to
[04:46] <Erickj92> Arwen, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, it worked! i love you! (in a total the-tech-that-helped-me-loving-way)
[04:46] <Unoriginal> look at what I just told you
[04:46] <wswindell> than what
[04:47] <wswindell> can i install it through adept or synaptic
[04:47] <sandro__> will anyone here help me?
[04:47] <Arwen> wswindell, apt-get install sun-java6-jre && wget http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther && unzip LimeWireOther.zip
[04:47] <Arwen> try READING
[04:47] <Erickj92> sandro__, what do you need?
[04:48] <wswindell> already tried that man, it DOES NOT WORK
[04:48] <Arwen> !doesn't work
[04:48] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:48] <Erickj92> wswindell, settle down
[04:48] <wswindell> limewire installation without GDEBI
[04:48] <prince_jammys> there's also frostwire
[04:48] <wswindell> i dont like frostiwre
[04:48] <Erickj92> ...
[04:48] <prince_jammys> ok
[04:49] <wswindell> pllease help
[04:49]  * Arwen tunes out... limewire sucks, the protocol sucks, and well, you suck for not letting us help you
[04:49] <wswindell> sudo apt-get install limewire/frostwire will not work for me.
[04:49] <Arwen> note that I didn't tell you to do that...
[04:49] <Arwen> READ
[04:50] <sandro__> ok so my friend has a wireless card that isn't being detected and isn't working, so I ran lspci and got this output for the wireless card: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01), using this information I determined it to be an atheros AR5006EG and ended up through looking for the drivers on this webpage: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros.  My question is where do I go
[04:50] <sandro__> from here to get/install the driver, as I have never done any work with a driver before
[04:50] <wswindell> By the way Arwen, I am only a 14 year old Visual Basic programmer that is new to Kubuntu
[04:50] <Erickj92> wswindell, you are being kind of rude to everyone.
[04:50] <prince_jammys> !frostwire | wswindell
[04:50] <ubotu> wswindell: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:50] <Arwen> wswindell, and so you ought to be more respectful to say the least.
[04:51] <Unoriginal> "visual basic programmer"
[04:51] <wswindell> i just want help, sorry, but i felt like i was being called stupid or something
[04:51] <Unoriginal> so many contradictions in that sentance
[04:51] <sandro__> I find your petty conflicts unamusing and I've given you basically all the information anyone would need
[04:52] <wswindell> please help, i am sorry if offended anybody. Please walk me through the install process
[04:52] <Arwen> wswindell, ok, first you need to install Java
[04:52] <wswindell> i have
[04:52] <Arwen> then you need to download the package from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[04:52] <Arwen> it will give you a ZIP
[04:52] <wswindell> it is opening with ark
[04:53] <wswindell> really slowly in ark
[04:53] <toter> sudo apt-get install frostwire is faster
 It opened in ark, completely
[04:54] <wswindell> what should i do know
[04:54] <wswindell> Now
[04:55] <wswindell> spelling correction
[04:55] <Arwen> ok, then you open a terminal, use "cd <pathname>" to change directories to your extracted Limewire, and run "./runLime.sh"
[04:55] <wswindell> hold on
[04:56] <wswindell> cd <home/wswindell>
[04:56] <prince_jammys> cd /home/wswindell
[04:57] <wswindell> thanks
[04:57] <Erickj92> can anyone recomend a screen recording program?
[04:57] <sandro__> ok so you guys have totally ignored me
[04:57] <prince_jammys> !info recordmydesktop | Erickj92
[04:57] <ubotu> erickj92: recordmydesktop (source: recordmydesktop): Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 124 kB
[04:57] <Erickj92> sandro__, i asked you what you needed
[04:57] <sandro__> And I responded
[04:57] <sandro__> ok so my friend has a wireless card that isn't being detected and isn't working, so I ran lspci and got this output for the wireless card: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01), using this information I determined it to be an atheros AR5006EG and ended up through looking for the drivers on this webpage: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros.  My question is where do I go
[04:57] <sandro__> from here to get/install the driver, as I have never done any work with a driver before
[04:58] <Erickj92> prince_jammys, recordmydesktop doesnt apear to work. is there any others?
[04:58] <wswindell> ./runLime.sh did not work
[04:58] <Erickj92> sandro_, sorry, i cant help ya
[04:58] <prince_jammys> Erickj92: i think so, but recordmydesktop is the only one i know.  did you search the repositories?
[04:59] <Erickj92> not yet
[04:59] <Arwen> wswindell, don't tell me that it didn't work. Tell me how.
[04:59] <toter> recordmydesktop doesn't appear to work
[04:59] <toter> ./runLime.sh did not work
[04:59] <sandro__> thanks Erickj92
[04:59] <toter> nothing works on linux! i'm going back to windows
[04:59] <sandro__> Can anyone else help me?
[04:59] <Erickj92> linux works good
[04:59] <sandro__> toter that's a bit of an overstatement
[04:59] <Erickj92> toter, windoes is broke, linux works like a dream
[04:59] <wswindell> Linux works great
[04:59] <toter> LOL! just kidding...
[04:59] <sandro__> LOL
[04:59] <toter> geez
[05:00] <Erickj92> i would hope so
[05:00] <sandro__> I knew you were trollin
[05:00] <wswindell> when i extracted the Zip archive to my /home/wswindell location, and used the code i think you gave me, it did nothing
[05:01] <wswindell> what the heck is this
[05:01]  * toter is running hardy heron alpha 5. It DOES NOT work like a dream :/
[05:02] <Erickj92> KDE4 basically broke my system today :/
[05:02] <Erickj92> but 3.5 does work like a dream
[05:04] <wswindell> what does irc stand for anyway
[05:04] <life> internet relay chat
[05:04] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what is the name of the file you downloaded ?
[05:04] <wswindell> the zip file?
[05:05] <prince_jammys> wswindell: whatever file it was that you downloaded
[05:05] <life> Hey guys, I tried to install pidgin 2.4.0 from .debs obtained from getdeb, but the pidgin deb is listing libpango1.0-0 as an unsatisfied dependency
[05:05] <life> but a quick look through adept shows that it's there
[05:05] <wswindell> The link says LimeWireSoftOther
[05:06] <life> Any ideas on how to get it to work?
[05:06] <wswindell> can I install limewire through adept or synaptics
[05:06] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what is the full name of the file as listed in your file browser?
[05:07] <vinegaroon> no
[05:07] <wswindell> Just says LimeWire
[05:07] <prince_jammys> wswindell: that's a folder, right?
[05:07] <wswindell> correct
[05:08] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what is inside this folder?
[05:08] <toter> life: pidgin 2.4.0 works fine on my system... I downloaded it from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pidgin/pidgin-2.4.0.tar.bz2... and then tar zxfv <filename>, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[05:08] <life> toter:
[05:08] <life> toter: Oops. Ah, do I need to remove some of the old packages such as libpurple?
[05:08] <wswindell> alot of .jar files, 1 runLime.sh file, and a root folder
[05:09] <prince_jammys> wswindell: and what happened when you did ./runLime.sh in  a terminal?
[05:09] <toter> life: i didn't remove anything...
[05:09] <wswindell> it did nothing
[05:10] <toter> life: what ubuntu version are you using?
[05:10] <life> kubuntu gutsy
[05:12] <sandro__> help
[05:12] <prince_jammys> wswindell: well i have no idea. why don't you just try installing frostwire? it's really exactly the same
[05:12] <prince_jammys> !frostwire | wswindell
[05:12] <ubotu> wswindell: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:12] <life> toter: Hmm, why's it giving me a v: Cannot open: No such file or directory upon tar -xfvz?
[05:12] <prince_jammys> wswindell: just follow those steps
[05:13] <wswindell> if it involves a .deb file, cant run through GDebi
[05:13] <toter> life: try tar zxfv pidgin-2.4.0.tar.bz2
[05:13] <toter> not -zxfv
[05:13] <prince_jammys> wswindell: you don't have to use GDEbi
[05:13] <life> toter: gzip:stdin:not in gzip format
[05:14] <sandro__> ok so my friend has a wireless card that isn't being detected and isn't working, so I ran lspci and got this output for the wireless card: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01), using this information I determined it to be an atheros AR5006EG and ended up through looking for the drivers on this webpage: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros.  My question is where do I go
[05:14] <sandro__> from here to get/install the driver, as I have never done any work with a driver before
[05:14] <toter> ops
[05:14] <toter> you're right
[05:14] <wswindell> what can i use instead
[05:14] <prince_jammys> wswindell: you can just do::   sudo dpkg -i  filename.deb
[05:14] <toter> you have to use ark
[05:14] <Hydrogen> err
[05:14] <Hydrogen> no
[05:14] <wswindell> thanks alot
[05:14] <Hydrogen> tar xjvf pidgin-2.4.0.tar.bz2
[05:14]  * Hydrogen points toter at man:/tar
[05:14] <life> Ooh. Thanks, Hydrogen, that did the job
[05:15]  * toter is still learning... :/
[05:15] <toter> thanks for the tip hydrogen
[05:15] <life> toter: so, after that, I should ./configure?
[05:16] <toter> life: man... after that one... ask hydrogen :)
[05:17] <vinegaroon> life: cd to the directory first
[05:17] <Hydrogen> life: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=2259
[05:17] <Hydrogen> might be the better solution
[05:17]  * Hydrogen isn't sure how trustworthy getdeb is
[05:17] <Hydrogen> google++
[05:17] <Hydrogen> !getdeb
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getdeb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Hydrogen> neither do I ubotu :(
[05:18] <vinegaroon> life: cd pidgin-2.4.0, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[05:18] <Hydrogen> not necessary if you use the deb
[05:18] <life> vinegaroon: Hmmm. I did the ./configure but it won't make
[05:18]  * Hydrogen is a much bigger fan of using the package manager
[05:18] <Hydrogen> when possible
[05:18] <life> Hydrogen: I tried the deb but it depends on some strange piece of futuristic technology
[05:19] <vinegaroon> life: you'll have to look at ./configure's output
[05:19] <toter> life: compiling the source worked fine for me
[05:19] <vinegaroon> you're probably missing some -dev library
[05:19] <Hydrogen> you likely need to install a bunch of -dev packages as well as a toolchain
[05:19] <life> That sounds frighteningly complicated
[05:19] <toter> welcome to linux
[05:19] <Hydrogen> it's more complicated than installing a deb
[05:20] <Hydrogen> I'd try and figure out why the one I linked wouldn't install
[05:20] <life> Well, I tried the deb. But it says there's a dependency (libpango1.0-0) that's missing
[05:20] <Hydrogen> install that via apt
[05:20] <toter> i had to install some 5 or 6 missing libraries
[05:21] <Hydrogen> sudo apt-get install libpango1.0-0
[05:21] <toter> Hydrogen: It's not the latest version....
[05:21] <toter> Hydrogen: I mean pidgin
[05:21] <sandro__> ok maybe I should dumb down my question
[05:21] <life> Hydrogen: nothing happened.
[05:21] <Hydrogen> that link is to 2.4.0 toter..
[05:22] <Hydrogen> life: no output at all?
[05:22] <life> Hydrogen: the computer's just like 'yeah, I have that, thanks anyway.'
[05:22] <wswindell> ubuntu selects its chosen users...
[05:22] <Hydrogen> oh
[05:22] <Hydrogen> hmm
[05:22] <Hydrogen> thats fun!
[05:22] <life> Hydrogen: I'll take your word for it
[05:22] <prince_jammys> wswindell: so, did it work?
[05:23] <wswindell> i am downloading frostwire, and 20% of the way through, it said it was binary, and saving would result in a corrupt firle
[05:23] <life> I think kubuntu really hates me
[05:24] <toter> Hydrogen: I just install pidgin via apt-get... The version is 2.3.1...
[05:24] <wswindell> now the download says stalled
[05:24] <Hydrogen> toter: right
[05:24] <toter> installed
[05:24] <Hydrogen> toter: thats why I linked to a deb
[05:24] <Hydrogen> of 2.4.0
[05:24] <wswindell> no stalled
[05:24] <Hydrogen> personally I use kopete and alls good, so I don't know for certain
[05:24] <life> hmm
[05:24] <life> Hydrogen: any ideas on how to fix this pangomabober?
[05:24] <Hydrogen> life: not right now :/
[05:25] <Hydrogen> not thinking that straight currently though
[05:25] <prince_jammys> wswindell: the file should be a .deb
[05:25] <Hydrogen> so
[05:26] <wswindell> thats what the download manager said it was, but an error sayin it was binary popped up
[05:26] <wswindell> i have a limewire file on my desktop, could that work somehow
[05:26] <prince_jammys> wswindell: hold on
[05:26] <wswindell> ok
[05:27] <life> why use limewire anyway :/
[05:27] <prince_jammys> wswindell: right click on the ubuntu link at the frostwire site, and do "save as" and save it
[05:27] <life> and Hydrogen: is there some way to download a more recent version of libpango?
[05:27] <prince_jammys> wswindell: you should be able to download that deb file
[05:30] <toter> life: i just installed 2.3.1 and it works fine... anything special on the 2.4.0 version?
[05:30] <life> toter: not really, I think it just looks a bit better
[05:30] <abortd> anyone know why gparted wont let me format to ntfs?
[05:31] <life> toter: how'd you get 2.3.1? the only version I could get outta adept was 2.2.1
[05:31] <wswindell> prince_jammys: it is downloading
[05:31] <prince_jammys> wswindell: ok
[05:31] <toter> life: sudo apt-get update
[05:32] <prince_jammys> wswindell: tell me when it's done
[05:32] <life> toter: nothing really happens for me :/
[05:32] <toter> life: then remove the 2.2.1 version...
[05:33] <toter> and then sudo apt-get install pidgin
[05:33] <wswindell> its finished and placed on my desktop
[05:33] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what's it called
[05:34] <wswindell> frostwire-4.13.5.i586.deb
[05:35] <prince_jammys> wswindell: go to a terminal and do ::  sudo dpkg -i frostwireblahblah     (the name of the file)
[05:35] <toter> life: but compiling the 2.4.0 version is much more fun
[05:35] <life> toter: hmm, only installs the 2.21 for me
[05:35] <prince_jammys> wswindell: sorry, sudo dpkg -i Desktop/frostwireblah
[05:35] <life> toter: strange
[05:36] <sandro__> ok guys I need to install a driver for an atheros AR5006EG
[05:36] <sandro__> Where can I find it
[05:36] <sandro__> I found a ubuntu help forum post about it but the fix they posted didn't help
[05:37] <sandro__> apparently atheros cards worked in the past with kubuntu but have since stopped
[05:37] <prince_jammys> sandro__: this ? http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/atheros-ar5006eg-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/
[05:38] <toter> life: i'm using hardy heron alpha 5... I don't know... maybe 2.2.1 is the latest version for gutsy... my apt-get shows 2.3.1 as the latest
[05:38] <life> ahh
[05:38] <sandro__> thanks prince_jammys I'm opening now
[05:38] <life> toter: that might be why
[05:39] <life> sandro__: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper too
[05:39] <prince_jammys> wswindell: so, do we have success?
[05:40] <wswindell> prince_jammys: it gives me a list of options to use with dpkg
[05:40] <wswindell> hold on a sec
[05:40] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what is the command you typed (paste it here)
[05:41] <wswindell> i did it wrong
[05:41] <sandro__> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[05:41] <prince_jammys> maybe you forgot the -i
[05:41] <prince_jammys> !info ndiswrapper
[05:41] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[05:41] <prince_jammys> heh
[05:41] <life> ...
[05:41] <prince_jammys> !ndiswrapper
[05:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:41] <life> how
[05:41] <life> hmm
[05:41] <life> that's
[05:41] <prince_jammys> argh
[05:41] <life> REALLY wierd
[05:42] <life> oh well
[05:42] <life> just download it I guess from sourceforge
[05:42] <wswindell> Desktop/frostwire-4.13.5.i586.deb
[05:42] <life> sandro__:http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482
[05:44] <prince_jammys> wswindell::do this::::     sudo dpkg -i  Desktop/frostwire-4.13.5.i586.deb
[05:44] <life> hm
[05:44] <wswindell> its working
[05:45] <life> torrents > limewire :/
[05:46] <prince_jammys> wswindell: congratulations.  as you will see, it looks like limewire, acts like limewire and basically IS limewire
[05:46] <wswindell> its says setting up frostwire (4.13.5)
[05:46] <wswindell> then back to the basic command line beginning'
[05:46] <prince_jammys> wswindell: ok now look in your menus
[05:47] <life> aww, sandro left :/
[05:47] <wswindell> tahnks man your the only one who describe it to me without being rude or nasty. You're the best!
[05:47] <wswindell> THANKS! prince_jammys is the best!
[05:47] <wswindell> see ya
[05:47] <prince_jammys> wswindell: you're welcome. now don't get busted
[05:48] <life> hmm. prince you know of any apps worth getting?
[05:48] <prince_jammys> what kind?
[05:48] <prince_jammys> yakuake
[05:48] <prince_jammys> you have yakuake?
[05:49] <life> yakuake?
[05:49] <life> what is it?
[05:49] <prince_jammys> !info yakuake
[05:49] <ubotu> yakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[05:49] <prince_jammys> life: get it!
[05:49] <prince_jammys> and then press f12
[05:49] <prince_jammys> you'll see
[05:49] <life> o_O
[05:50] <life> Interesting
[05:50] <prince_jammys> life: do you do stuff on a terminal ever?
[05:50] <life> to install stuff
[05:50] <life> and stuff I guess
[05:50] <prince_jammys> if you do, you will LOVE yakuake
[05:50] <life> Hehehe
[05:50] <prince_jammys> yeah even if you use it just to install stuff
[05:51] <prince_jammys> clear
[05:51] <prince_jammys> wrong window
[05:51] <life> bah, adept is slowww
[05:52] <prince_jammys> yeah adept is super slow
[05:52] <life> is there any way to manually update to hardy without reinstall?
[05:52] <prince_jammys> i'm not sure, since hardy is still alpha
[05:53] <prince_jammys> !hardy
[05:53] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:53] <life> hmm
[05:53] <life> guess it's not too safe
[05:53] <life> yet
[05:53] <prince_jammys> yeah, i wouldn't recommend it unless you're the type
[05:53] <life> that likes to fix a LOT of stuff?
[05:53] <prince_jammys> aha
[05:54] <life> I'll pass. can't wait for the next version of kde though
[05:54] <vinegaroon> life: hardy isn't to bad, you can upgrade to it quite easily.
[05:54] <life> vinegaroon: is it bug-infested?
[05:54] <prince_jammys> life: you'll be the one finding out :)
[05:55] <toter> life: if you can't wait for the next version of kde... install hardy! :)
[05:55] <vinegaroon> life: I've noticed some but none that have stopped me doing what I want
[05:55] <life> Hehehe
[05:55] <life> What version of KDE does Hardy accompany?
[05:55] <vinegaroon> 3.5.9 and 4.0.2
[05:55] <life> Ooooh, 4.0.2
[05:55] <vinegaroon> mm
[05:56] <life> That alone might be worth an upgrade
[05:56] <vinegaroon> it is possible to get it in gutsy
[05:56] <life> How might one of these "upgrades" be done?
[05:57] <vinegaroon> I'm not sure about kubuntu's graphical methods since I don't use adept or anything, but I just replace gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.list with hardy
[05:57] <vinegaroon> and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:57] <life> Hmmm.
[05:58] <vinegaroon> just go kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <life> Sounds pretty easy, I guess
[05:58] <vinegaroon> and it has a find/replace thing
[05:58] <life> Should I do it now, do you think?
[05:58] <sandro__> hey what did you guys just have me install?
[05:58] <sandro__> because it messed up xserver
[05:58] <sandro__> I need to uninstall everything related to it
[05:59] <vinegaroon> if all you want is the kde 4 it should be easy to get in gutsy
[05:59] <life> Ooh. Yes, yes, that's about all I want.
[05:59] <life> How might I get my hands on this KDE 4 of yours?
[05:59] <vinegaroon> k just follow this http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php
[05:59] <sandro__> ok so guys
[05:59] <sandro__> what's the name of the package that you had me install
[05:59] <vinegaroon> pretty easy
[05:59] <sandro__> I can't check the log
[06:00] <sandro__> as xserver won't start
[06:00] <prince_jammys> ndiswrapper?
[06:00] <sandro__> thanks
[06:00] <sandro__> can you look up what packages are related to it in aptitude's package manager/
[06:00] <prince_jammys> ndiswrapper is not in apt -- i don't know where you got it from
[06:01] <life> Neat, thanks vine
[06:01] <vinegaroon> np
[06:01] <hydrogen> uhh, wut prince_jammys?
[06:01] <hydrogen> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 - Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernelmodule
[06:01] <hydrogen> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[06:01] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-utils does not exist in gutsy
[06:01] <sandro__> I looked for that thanks hydrogen
[06:01] <vinegaroon> ndiswrapper is..
[06:01] <hydrogen> why do I have it..
[06:01] <hydrogen> !info ndiswrapper-utils universe
[06:01] <sandro__> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[06:01] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (source: ndiswrapper): Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module. In component main, is optional. Version 1.43-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 32 kB, installed size 128 kB
[06:01] <hydrogen> ah..
[06:02] <life> its mainly used for wireless drivers
[06:02] <sandro__> yes
[06:02] <hydrogen> thats a really odd versioning scheme
[06:02] <life> it's fun
[06:02] <sandro__> but it messed up my nvidia drivers
[06:02] <hydrogen> ndiswrapper-utils-1,9.1.43-1ubuntu2?
[06:02] <sandro__> which I'm not happy about
[06:02] <life> o_O
[06:02] <life> not sure if that's possible
[06:03] <sandro__> yes
[06:03] <sandro__> but prior to installing that package
[06:03] <sandro__> I had a working xserver
[06:03] <sandro__> on my friends computer here
[06:03] <sandro__> and now after installing it
[06:03] <crackhead_25> what's the command to query local ip?
[06:03] <sandro__> the xserver does not work
[06:03] <vinegaroon> crackhead_25: ifconfig
[06:03] <vinegaroon> probably sudo ifconfig
[06:04] <sandro__> I hit help on aptitude and it froze
[06:04] <sandro__> this is fucking stressful
[06:04] <sandro__> !ohmy
[06:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:04] <sandro__> sorry
[06:04] <toter> welcome to linux
[06:05] <prince_jammys> sandro__: do you get an error from x?
[06:08] <sandro___> this isn't helping
[06:08] <vinegaroon> sandro__: what does it say when you try and start x?
[06:09] <sladigar> how do i change the permissions of an hd and/or the file inside?
[06:09] <sladigar> file(s)
[06:11] <sandro___> monitor not found
[06:11] <sandro___> something like that
[06:11] <sandro___> I'm in the middle of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:11] <vinegaroon> sladigar: the command is chmod
[06:12] <sladigar> in terminal?
[06:12] <vinegaroon> yes
[06:12] <life> vinegaroon: after I add that line to sources.list, what should I do to install it?
[06:13] <sandro___> EE: screen(S) found but none have a usable configuration
[06:13] <vinegaroon> life: sudo apt-get update
[06:13] <life> and it should work?
[06:13] <vinegaroon> life: then sudo apt-get install kde4-core
[06:13] <vinegaroon> sandro__: is that the only error?
[06:13] <sandro___> Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[06:13] <sladigar> so chmod /media/hdb1
[06:13] <sladigar> ?
[06:13] <life> ooh. And also, where's my login manager o_O
[06:14] <sandro___> I seriously need help
[06:14] <sandro___> like phisical harm will befall me if I don't fix this
[06:14] <vinegaroon> sladigar: what permissions do you want to change?
[06:14] <vinegaroon> life: do you mean the kde4 kdm?
[06:14] <sladigar> the permissions on my harddrives and files, as far as read/write, are all root
[06:15] <life> well, how do I change from kde3 -> 4?
[06:15] <vinegaroon> sandro__: do you have your Nvidia driver installed?
[06:15] <sandro___> yes
[06:15] <sandro___> it was JUST working BEFORE you told me to install the stuff you did
[06:15] <sandro___> I'd love to go back to taht
[06:15] <vinegaroon> life: in kdm, go select session and select KDE 4
[06:16] <sladigar> i would like to be able to rename my HD, and if not that, at least be able to add files to my HD
[06:16] <vinegaroon> sandro__: I didn't tell you to install anything..
[06:16] <life> Ah, like, start a new session?
[06:16] <toter> sandro___: now nobody will help just to see you seriously hurt
[06:16] <sandro___> you didn't
[06:16] <sandro___> TOTER THAT SERIOUSLY ISN'T FUNNY
[06:16] <vinegaroon> life: no logout and there is a menu you can get to in kdm
[06:16] <sandro___> like it's late
[06:16] <sandro___> the guy want's to go to sleep
[06:17] <sandro___> and I'm out of here on friday
[06:17] <sandro___> so let's please get this done
[06:17] <sandro___> what was the name of that package again?
[06:17] <sandro___> I'll uninstall it and restart the system
[06:17] <sandro___> in the hopes that it fixes what's happened
[06:17] <sladigar> sudo apt-get remove (whatever files you installed)
[06:17] <vinegaroon> sladigar: you can't just plug in the drive?
[06:18] <sladigar> it's plugged in, and i can access it, but i wanna add/delete things, and it says i need root to do that
[06:18] <sandro___> the thing I installed is listed earlyer in the chat
[06:18] <sandro___> I can't see it as I'm in irssi and a console
[06:18] <prince_jammys> ndiswrapper
[06:18] <sladigar> then scroll up and find it
[06:19] <sandro___> I can't scroll up I'm in a console
[06:19] <sladigar> dude, page up button scrolls up
[06:19] <vinegaroon> sladigar: so it popped up in /media automatically?
[06:19] <sandro___> I've since logged out and in since you guys listed it last
[06:19] <sladigar> no, i had to do....something, a while ago
[06:19] <sandro___> now would someone please tell me what shows up in adept manager
[06:19] <sandro___> when you search for ndiswrapper
[06:19] <sladigar> i just can't remember (like a month ago)
[06:20] <prince_jammys> sandro__  press tab to autocomplete
[06:20] <prince_jammys> !find ndiswrapper
[06:20] <vinegaroon> what filesystem does the drive use?
[06:20] <life> ndiswrapper's not in apt
[06:20] <sandro___> tab DOES NOTHING
[06:20] <sladigar> sandro___: you seem to be demanding from a group who is only here to help a community, you need to chill, whatever your problem is
[06:20] <sandro___> dude
[06:20] <sandro___> I'm going to have my ass handed to me
[06:21] <sandro___> by some dude who wanted me to get his wireless working
[06:21] <vinegaroon> sandro__: try sudo modprobe nvidia
[06:21] <sandro___> ndiswrapper-1. something please
[06:21] <vinegaroon> and then startx again
[06:22] <sladigar> i don't remember
[06:22] <sladigar> umm
[06:22] <sandro___> error while running install command for nvidia
[06:22] <hydrogen> sandro__: pastebin the results of dmesg | tail
[06:22] <hydrogen> err
[06:22] <sladigar> they were win partition
[06:22] <hydrogen> dmesg | tail -n30
[06:23] <vinegaroon> sladigar: the drive should just pop up, you're running kubuntu with kde running right?
[06:23] <sladigar> yeah
[06:24] <sladigar> like i said, the drive is there, i just can't alter it
[06:24] <sladigar> because of the permissions
[06:24] <vinegaroon> is it a partition on your hard drive or a usb drive or what?
[06:25] <prince_jammys> sandro: ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[06:25] <prince_jammys> sandro__ did you try booting with a different kernel first?
[06:25] <sladigar> on a secondary harddrive, internal
[06:25] <vinegaroon> ah k
[06:25] <vinegaroon> well try remounting it
[06:25] <sladigar> ...
[06:26] <sladigar> ok
[06:26] <sladigar> is there a guide somewhere on how to do this?
[06:26] <vinegaroon> sladigar: kk.. what is the partition name? Like /dev/sdb1 type of thing?
[06:26] <life> vinegaroon: hmm, kde4 didn't take that long to install.
[06:26] <sladigar> all of them are in media
[06:26] <prince_jammys> sandro__  first i would try booting from a different kernel from grub
[06:26] <vinegaroon> life: .. yeah?
[06:27] <life> vinegaroon: dunno. just kinda surprised.
[06:27] <life> vinegaroon: dunno. expected it to take maybe a few hours
[06:27] <prince_jammys> sandro: the packages named "ndiswrapper" are ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[06:27] <vinegaroon> sladigar: if you can't use it you might not have mounted it right
[06:27] <sladigar> ok
[06:27] <vinegaroon> life: ah.. well test it and see
[06:27] <sladigar> wait
[06:27] <sladigar> no
[06:27] <sladigar> i can use it
[06:27] <sladigar> i can access it
[06:27] <sladigar> all of the partitions
[06:27] <dalton2345> hello...I'm ready to install kubuntu, I downloaded the image...I'm wondering should I connect the pc to internet while I download it?
[06:27] <sladigar> i and use the info on them
[06:28] <dalton2345> while I install it sorry
[06:28] <sladigar> but i can't add or delete files
[06:28] <prince_jammys> dalton2345: sure
[06:28] <dalton2345> install in text mode?
[06:28] <vinegaroon> sladigar: do you know if it's a fat32 or ntfs partition?
[06:28] <sladigar> ntfs
[06:28] <vinegaroon> sladigar: ah
[06:28] <sladigar> my usb is fat32
[06:28] <life> vinegaroon: to test it I log off?
[06:28] <sladigar> and i can access that, with full perm
[06:29] <prince_jammys> sladigar: so you need read/write on the ntfs partition, right?
[06:29] <sladigar> yeah
[06:29] <dalton2345> I have options for install in text mode or OEM install
[06:29] <prince_jammys> sladigar: is it currently mounted?
[06:29] <sladigar> it is
[06:29] <vinegaroon> sladigar: install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config
[06:29] <prince_jammys> sladigar: what's the device name and/or mount point/
[06:30] <vinegaroon> life: you could, or you could start a new session
[06:30] <prince_jammys> the directory where it's mounted
[06:30] <sladigar> vinegaroon: sudo apt-get? prince_jammys: they are mounted in /media/hdb(1,5,6&7)
[06:31] <sladigar> 4 total
[06:31] <vinegaroon> sladigar: yes
[06:31] <prince_jammys> sladigar: which one is the ntfs one?
[06:31] <sladigar> all 4
[06:31] <sladigar> they are all one partitioned 250gb hd
[06:31] <prince_jammys> sladigar: you need to change all 4, correct?
[06:31] <vinegaroon> sladigar: I believe ntfs-config lets you enable read/write on ntfs partitions
[06:32] <sladigar> i would like to access with read/write on all 4, yes
[06:32] <prince_jammys> sladigar: paste the output of only two lines from this::   grep /media/hdb /etc/fstab
[06:32] <prince_jammys> just to see what's going on
[06:33] <prince_jammys> i assume four lines will show up, if they are automounted
[06:33] <sladigar> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:33] <sladigar> /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:33] <sladigar> /dev/hdb6 /media/hdb6 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:33] <sladigar> /dev/hdb7 /media/hdb7 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:34] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok you need to install ntfs-3g, if you haven't already
[06:34] <prince_jammys> !info ntfs-3g
[06:34] <prince_jammys> sladigar: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[06:34] <vinegaroon> sladigar: change ro to rw in all those lines
[06:34] <sladigar> ...
[06:35] <sladigar> how do i do that
[06:35] <prince_jammys> install ntfs-3g first
[06:35] <sladigar> did the install on 3g
[06:35] <sladigar> working on config
[06:35] <sladigar> k, got em both
[06:35] <vinegaroon> sladigar: run ntfs-config
[06:36] <life> Wow, kde4 is beautiful
[06:36] <ubotu> ntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:36] <sladigar> programme needs to be run as root
[06:36] <vinegaroon> sladigar: sudo ntfs-config
[06:36] <life> it's all black and shiiiny
[06:36] <vinegaroon> yep :D
[06:36] <sladigar> holy sweet!
[06:36] <life> is it safe for everyday use?
[06:37] <prince_jammys> sladigar: done?
[06:37] <sladigar> i do believe so!
[06:37] <sladigar> lemme check
[06:37] <prince_jammys> if you now do the same grep command you will see the fstab lines are different
[06:37] <prince_jammys> grep /media/hdb /etc/fstab
[06:38] <vinegaroon> life: I guess that depends what you call safe... it's probably fine but I'm still using 3.5.9 cos 4.0.2 still seems a bit buggy
[06:38] <life> nod nod
[06:38] <sladigar> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[06:38] <sladigar> /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[06:38] <sladigar> /dev/hdb6 /media/hdb6 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[06:38] <sladigar> /dev/hdb7 /media/hdb7 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[06:38] <vinegaroon> sladigar: that looks better :)
[06:38] <prince_jammys> see?
[06:38] <sladigar> indeed
[06:38] <sladigar> you guys are the best
[06:38] <prince_jammys> so you're set
[06:39] <sladigar> for the most part, yup!
[06:39] <sladigar> just don't know how to rename HDs
[06:39] <prince_jammys> you mean the volume label?
[06:39] <sladigar> yeah
[06:39] <prince_jammys> or the mount point?
[06:39] <sladigar> ...
[06:39] <prince_jammys> the /media/hdb1?
[06:39] <sladigar> yes, the hdb1 part
[06:39] <prince_jammys> i can show you that
[06:40] <sladigar> would you?
[06:40] <prince_jammys> yes
[06:40] <sladigar> thank you
[06:40] <prince_jammys> ok, there may be a GUI way but i only know the other way
[06:40] <prince_jammys> ready?
[06:40] <sladigar> tha'ts ok
[06:40] <prince_jammys> open a terminal and we're going to unmount all of them first
[06:40] <sladigar> ok
[06:40] <prince_jammys> umount /media/hdb1
[06:40] <prince_jammys> sudo
[06:41] <prince_jammys> sudo umount /media/hdb1
[06:41] <prince_jammys> and do that for all four
[06:41] <sladigar> kk
[06:41] <sladigar> donme
[06:41] <sladigar> done
[06:41] <prince_jammys> make sure you close any filebrowsers or terminals that are browsing the ntfs partitions, or it will tell you they're busy
[06:42] <prince_jammys> ok
[06:42] <prince_jammys> ok now :: sudo mkdir /media/blahblah /media/blahblah2 /media/blahblahetc
[06:42] <life> Only thing I don't like about KDE is the huge taskbar :/
[06:43] <prince_jammys> sladigar: that will create four new directories under /media with your choice of name
[06:43] <prince_jammys> sladigar: clear?
[06:44] <prince_jammys> sladigar: avoid spaces in the dir names
[06:44] <prince_jammys> better yet, do NOT use spaces :)
[06:44] <sladigar> lol, didn't use spaces, but got an error
[06:44] <prince_jammys> what error?
[06:44] <sladigar> sladigar@omni:~$ sudo mkdir /media/files /media/music /media/movies /media stuff
[06:45] <sladigar> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media': File exists
[06:45] <sladigar> sladigar@omni:~$ sudo mkdir /media/files
[06:45] <sladigar> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/files': File exists
[06:45] <sladigar> sladigar@omni:~$ sudo mkdir /media/music
[06:45] <sladigar> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/music': File exists
[06:45] <prince_jammys> sladigar:  stop for a sec
[06:45] <sladigar> kk
[06:45] <prince_jammys> it's the space after /media stuff
[06:45] <sladigar> OH!
[06:45] <sladigar> lol
[06:45] <prince_jammys> its /media/stuff   (the other's were successfully made)
[06:45] <abortd> if i have windows as my first partition before my swap and my my ext 3 partition will it affect anything?
[06:45] <prince_jammys> and btw, you made a folder "stuff" in your current directory
[06:46] <sladigar> hahaha, i'm a newvb
[06:46] <prince_jammys> :)
[06:46] <sladigar> did i?
[06:46] <prince_jammys> do::  ls
[06:46] <sladigar> yup, i did
[06:46] <sladigar> lol
[06:46] <prince_jammys> see, you tried to make /media, which exists and then made "stuff"
[06:46] <sladigar> i went too fast, missed the slash
[06:46] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok first: rmdir stuff
[06:47] <prince_jammys> now stuff is gone
[06:47] <sladigar> yup
[06:47] <life> night guys, talk to you all tomorrow!
[06:47] <prince_jammys> bye
[06:47] <sladigar> later life
[06:47] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok now do:: ls /media and check whether the folders are what you wanted
[06:48] <prince_jammys> they should be listed
[06:48] <sladigar> still have all the hdb's and an sda
[06:48] <sladigar> i think the sda is my usb drive
[06:48] <prince_jammys> but you have the new ones?
[06:48] <sladigar> yup
[06:48] <sladigar> they are there
[06:48] <prince_jammys> ok that's fine
[06:48] <prince_jammys> after we're done, we delete the old ones
[06:48] <sladigar> kk
[06:48] <sladigar> (rmdir?)
[06:48] <prince_jammys> now all we have to do is edit fstab, which is the file we were looking at earlier
[06:49] <sladigar> the grep thing?
[06:49] <prince_jammys> sladigar: you use kde, right?
[06:49] <prince_jammys> yes, the grep thing
[06:49] <sladigar> yeah
[06:49] <sladigar> i should use kedit?
[06:49] <sladigar> orno
[06:49] <sladigar> or no
[06:49] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok::  do   kdesude kate /etc/fstab
[06:49] <prince_jammys> kdesudo
[06:49] <prince_jammys> kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[06:49] <prince_jammys> it should open the file
[06:50] <sladigar> bash: kdesude: command not found
[06:50] <prince_jammys> typo, kdesudo
[06:50] <sladigar> installing as we....wait
[06:50] <sladigar> lol
[06:51] <prince_jammys> oh, you didn't have kdesudo?
[06:51] <sladigar> nupe
[06:51] <prince_jammys> what kubuntu are you on? gutsy?
[06:51] <klobster> kdesu works also
[06:51] <sladigar> this pc is all screwed up, i installed ubuntu, then kde
[06:51] <prince_jammys> ah
[06:52] <sladigar> kk, kate is open now
[06:52] <prince_jammys> sladigar: once you have the fstab file open, you can replace /media/hda whatever with your new mount points
[06:52] <prince_jammys> in the four lines
[06:53] <prince_jammys> or hdb, whatever it was
[06:53] <prince_jammys> the ntfs-3g lines
[06:54] <sladigar> ok, did that
[06:54] <sladigar> now mount?
[06:54] <prince_jammys> ok save the file and close kate
[06:54] <sladigar> kk
[06:54] <prince_jammys> now::  sudo mount /media/stuff && sudo mount /media/files && sudo mount ....
[06:54] <prince_jammys> for all four
[06:55] <sladigar> can i sudo mount /media/stuff /media/files /med.....
[06:55] <prince_jammys> maybe
[06:55] <prince_jammys> i would do them separately
[06:56] <prince_jammys> it almost definitely will get misinterpreted if you list them all like that
[06:56] <sladigar> kk
[06:57] <sladigar> gimme a min
[06:57] <prince_jammys> done?
[06:57] <prince_jammys> once, done, browse to the new dirs and you should see the contents like before
[06:57] <sladigar> not yet
[07:00] <sladigar> ok, all good
[07:00] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok now you can delete the old mount points
[07:00] <sladigar> so now sudo rmdir /media/hda1
[07:00] <prince_jammys> yes, rmdir deletes a directory only if it's empty, which is what we want
[07:00] <sladigar> kk
[07:00] <sladigar> lemme try it out
[07:00] <prince_jammys> that way nothing gets deleted by accident
[07:02] <sladigar> sladigar@omni:~$ ls /media
[07:02] <sladigar> cdrom  cdrom0  cdrom1  files  floppy  floppy0  movies  music  MyBook  stuff
[07:02] <prince_jammys> looks good
[07:02] <sladigar> much better
[07:02] <prince_jammys> you're set
[07:03] <sladigar> so it would be the same steps to rename the cdrom drives?
[07:03] <sladigar> this is just curiosity
[07:03] <prince_jammys> i'm not sure
[07:03] <prince_jammys> probably
[07:03] <sladigar> kk
[07:03] <prince_jammys> i wouldn't mess with that, because that only gets mounted when you insert a cd
[07:03] <sladigar> i didn't know, because whenever you put a disk in, it renames the drive, as long as the disk has a title
[07:03] <sladigar> yeah
[07:04] <sladigar> what you said
[07:04] <sladigar> lol
[07:04] <prince_jammys> but that's how it works. fstab shows the mount points for different devices
[07:04] <sladigar> that is so cool
[07:04] <sladigar> it's longer winded than DOS was
[07:04] <prince_jammys> :)
[07:05] <sladigar> but same princepals
[07:05] <sladigar> awesome
[07:05] <prince_jammys> well, you did have four
[07:05] <prince_jammys> :)
[07:05] <sladigar> that i did
[07:05] <sladigar> lol
[07:05] <prince_jammys> the thing about unix/linux is that you can open and read the config files (like fstab)
[07:05] <prince_jammys> they are text files
[07:05] <sladigar> yeah, i have edited xorg.conf more times than i can count
[07:06] <prince_jammys> heh, then you know
[07:06] <sladigar> still can't get my mouse figured out
[07:06] <sladigar> yeah
[07:06] <prince_jammys> special kind of mouse?
[07:06] <sladigar> i have a 7 button fellowes, it loads as 9 buttons, kde and gnome only recognize 5
[07:06] <prince_jammys> sladigar: google is good for that
[07:06] <sladigar> i have tried xmodmap
[07:07] <sladigar> oh, trust me, google is sick of me by now
[07:07] <sladigar> lol
[07:07] <prince_jammys> sladigar: did you try google:::    ubuntu gutsy mouse_model xorg.conf
[07:07] <sladigar> i have done similar things
[07:07] <sladigar> i have tried looking all the way to debian
[07:08] <sladigar> fellowes told me to go back to win
[07:08] <sladigar> i had to laugh
[07:08] <prince_jammys> hah
[07:08] <prince_jammys> why did they say that/
[07:08] <prince_jammys> ?
[07:08] <Kavi> Hello?
[07:08] <sladigar> they don't support non-ms programmes
[07:08] <prince_jammys> !hi
[07:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:09] <prince_jammys> well, if you haven't tried it, try specifically including "xorg.conf" in your search
[07:09] <sladigar> kk
[07:09] <prince_jammys> that's how i always assemble mine :)
[07:10] <sladigar> does it matter tha i am useing kde on this pc?
[07:10] <Kavi> Hey guys, I'm trying to install NetworkManager but I keep getting a error: C compiler cannot create executables.  Does anyone know why this is?  I can't seem to get it any other way because without networkmanager i don't have an internet connection.
[07:10] <prince_jammys> not really, not for Xorg stuff
[07:10] <sladigar> kk
[07:10] <prince_jammys> sladigar: so "ubuntu" is a better bet than "kubuntu" in google
[07:12] <vinegaroon> Kavi: what are you doing that makes the error?
[07:13] <Kavi> I am using ./configure from the extracted networkmanager folder.
[07:13] <storbeck> Kavi, do you have build-essentials?
[07:13] <Kavi> I'm not sure what that is?
[07:13] <Kavi> I don't think so.
[07:13] <vinegaroon> Kavi: networkmanager should be there by default... are you sure you don't have it?
[07:13] <storbeck> Kavi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:14] <Jucato> Kubuntu uses knetworkmanager (KDE GUI for networkmanager) by default
[07:14] <storbeck> It should be on the Kubuntu CD
[07:14] <vinegaroon> knetworkmanager is just a kde front end
[07:15] <Kavi> I wanted to reinstall it so I could return my settings back to factory but after restarting I realized that without an internet connection I could not install it again.
[07:15] <sladigar> prince_jammys: nada
[07:15] <prince_jammys> sladigar: what's the mouse make/model?
[07:15] <vinegaroon> Kavi: so did you uninstall it?
[07:15] <Kavi> I had to put the .tar.gz files on a usb stick to transfer the package over to the system.
[07:15] <Kavi> Ya I uninstalled it, then restarted.
[07:16] <sladigar> fellowes 5 button optical mouse 98911
[07:16] <storbeck> Kavi: Did you install the build-essental?
[07:16] <Kavi> after restarting I got stuck. so I found NetworkManager-0.6.5.tar.gz and used a usb move it over.
[07:16] <vinegaroon> Kavi: do you have the kubuntu disk you used to install?
[07:16] <Kavi> I can't install build-essental without an internet connection.
[07:16] <vinegaroon> Kavi: because you can just get the network manager packages from that
[07:16] <Kavi> Yes I have the live CD.
[07:16] <vinegaroon> ok
[07:17] <storbeck> Kavi: It's on the CD
[07:17] <vinegaroon> Kavi: put the disk in
[07:17] <Kavi> Okay its in.
[07:17] <vinegaroon> Kavi: and then sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[07:19] <prince_jammys> sladigar: tried this?: http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu/gutsy/#enable-5button-mouse
[07:20] <sladigar> not yet
[07:20] <prince_jammys> sladigar: looks promising
[07:20] <Kavi> I get a "The following packages have unmet dependencies:"
[07:21] <sladigar> nope, my side buttons map as 8 and 9
[07:21] <vinegaroon> Kavi: what's the output when you run grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list   ?
[07:22] <RiccoHun> hi all
[07:22] <vinegaroon> hey
[07:22] <prince_jammys> sladigar: i don't know what that means, but did you try doing what it says in the link but replacing your numbers?   (don't forget to backup xorg.conf if you do)
[07:22] <Kavi> vinegaroon: Nothing happens...
[07:23] <vinegaroon> Kavi: ok, run sudo apt-cdrom add
[07:23] <vinegaroon> Kavi: with the disk in the drive
[07:23] <sladigar> yup
[07:23] <vinegaroon> Kavi: and then run sudo apt-get update
[07:23] <sladigar> all the numbers corospond with a mouse button
[07:23] <sladigar> usually, the left button is 1
[07:24] <sladigar> the middle and right are 2 and 3
[07:24] <sladigar> the scroll up and down are 4 and 5
[07:24] <sladigar> and the side are USUALLY 6 and 7, but mine are 8 and 9
[07:24] <prince_jammys> ah
[07:24] <sladigar> and gnome really doesn't like 8 and 9
[07:25] <Kavi> I get a ton of failed to fetch (address)
[07:26] <storbeck> I think I'm going to give SuSe a try.
[07:27] <vinegaroon> Kavi: that's ok
[07:27] <Kavi> When I ran sudo apt-cdrom add I got a ton of E: could not open file ..... and Unable to determine the file size .....
[07:27] <Kavi> okay...
[07:27] <vinegaroon> Kavi: hmm
[07:27] <vinegaroon> Kavi: does the cd get detected when you put it in?
[07:27] <Kavi> Yes.
[07:27] <Kavi> It shows on the desktop.
[07:28] <vinegaroon> Kavi: try sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add
[07:29] <Kavi> Is there a way to connect to the internet without using NetworkManger? and then using Adept to install it?
[07:30] <Jucato> if you have wired/ethernet, it could be possible
[07:30] <Jucato> how are you connecting to the internet now? and from where?
[07:30] <vinegaroon> Kavi: yeah
[07:30] <Kavi> after running apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add It does the same thing.  A please insert a Disk into the drive and press enter, So I press enter and it does a alot of could not open file stuff
[07:30] <Kavi> I'm wired to my router
[07:31] <vinegaroon> Kavi: ok then try sudo dhclient eth0
[07:31] <Jucato> :)
[07:31] <Kavi> I get a Network is down
[07:32] <vinegaroon> Kavi: sudo ifconfig
[07:32] <vinegaroon> and check that you're using the right device
[07:32] <Kavi> I get a command not found.
[07:32] <Jucato> ifconfig?
[07:32] <vinegaroon> sudo ifconfig?
[07:32] <Kavi> yup
[07:33] <Jucato> that's not good...
[07:33] <vinegaroon> try sudo /sbin/ifconfig
[07:33] <vinegaroon> maybe you're PATH is screwed up
[07:33] <vinegaroon> your*
[07:33] <Kavi> I get another command not found.
[07:34] <vinegaroon> uh
[07:34] <Jucato> hm.. I fear the worst...
[07:34] <vinegaroon> try ls /sbin
[07:34] <Kavi> okay
[07:34] <Kavi> I get a bunch of green items...
[07:34] <Jucato> can you find ifconfig there?
[07:34] <Kavi> some red and blue.
[07:34] <vinegaroon> try ls /sbin |grep ifconfig
[07:35] <Kavi> no ifconfig there.
[07:35] <vinegaroon> hmm
[07:35] <Kavi> closest is a iwconfig
[07:36] <vinegaroon> try whereis ifconfig
[07:36] <Kavi> ls /sbin |grep ifconfig did nothing....
[07:37] <vinegaroon> did you try whereis ifconfig ?
[07:37] <Kavi> whereis ifconfig states: "ifconfig:"
[07:37] <vinegaroon> um
[07:37] <vinegaroon> ok
[07:37] <Kavi> then back to kavi@kavi-kubuntu:~$
[07:37] <vinegaroon> that's very strange
[07:38] <Jucato> what does iwconfig say btw?
[07:38] <Kavi> The forum I got the info to uninstall network manager in the first place is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-441480.html I followed the last post made by jimbob
[07:39] <vinegaroon> is this a recent install?
[07:39] <Kavi> sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager net-tools
[07:39] <Kavi> Then re-boot your system and re-install them again. Hopefully everything will have to be set up again for your networks.
[07:39] <Kavi> sudo apt-get install network-manager net-tools
[07:39] <vinegaroon> oh
[07:39] <vinegaroon> I'm assuming ifconfig is in net-tools then..
[07:39] <Jucato> bad advice for just resetting network settings
[07:40] <vinegaroon> very
[07:40] <Kavi> Ya a pretty recent install...
[07:40] <Neo5967> hi
[07:40] <vinegaroon> you should be able to reinstall network manager and net-tools from your kubuntu disk
[07:40] <Kavi> how to I check what iwconfig says Jucato?
[07:40] <prince_jammys> just type iwconfig
[07:41] <Jucato> Kavi: type: iwconfig
[07:41] <Jucato> although I doubt iwconfig can help if net-tools was removed...
[07:41] <Kavi> lo no wireless extensions.
[07:41] <Kavi> eth0 no wireless extensions.
[07:42] <prince_jammys> so you can't install anything through apt?
[07:42] <Kavi> nope...
[07:42] <prince_jammys> check what vinegaroon is saying about installing from disk
[07:43] <vinegaroon> Kavi: open adept
[07:43] <Kavi> Ya he described how to do that but it did not work...
[07:43] <vinegaroon> and go Adept > Mangage Repositories
[07:43] <Kavi> when I try installing using apt get I get unmet dependencies and when I try to install those dependencies that it lists it just gives me more unmet
[07:43] <Jucato> I'm not sure if he can install packages from the Live CD...
[07:44] <vinegaroon> I'm sure he can
[07:44] <vinegaroon> you can add the cdrom to your sources through adept manager
[07:44] <Jucato> if and only if the live cd has the .deb files for them
[07:44] <prince_jammys> it should
[07:44] <vinegaroon> we'll see :)
[07:45] <Kavi> on what tab to I do that?
[07:45] <vinegaroon> Third-Party software
[07:45] <Jucato> the alternate install cd 100% has that. but not sure about the live cd
[07:45] <prince_jammys> since he needs those packages to use apt
[07:45] <vinegaroon> do you see a source that has cdrom in it?
[07:46] <Kavi> on the Third-Party Software tabe I see an add CD-ROM....
[07:46] <Jucato> prince_jammys: the Live CD has them pre-installed mostly.
[07:46] <vinegaroon> try that
[07:46] <storbeck> The LiveCD definately had the network manager...
[07:46] <storbeck> Hence the 'live' part
[07:46] <Jucato> storbeck: yes. but I'm talking about installable packages. not programs themselves
[07:47] <Kavi> I got a CD Error scanning the CD window.
[07:47] <Jucato> jucato@Suzaku:/media/cdrom0$ find . -name "*.deb" | grep net
[07:47] <vinegaroon> ok you may have to manually add it
[07:47] <Jucato> no net-tools on the gutsy live cd
[07:48] <Kavi> okay how do I manually add it?
[07:48] <storbeck> Jucato: Why don't you just copy the .deb to your USB drive and copy it over.
[07:48] <storbeck> Kavi***
[07:48] <Jucato> that's what I was going to say
[07:48] <Jucato> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net-tools download the net-tools .deb from here
[07:49] <Jucato> (again, the .deb package for net-tools is *not* on the live cd)
[07:49] <Kavi> where do I get the .deb files all I could find was NetworkManager-0.6.5.tar.gz and bz2
[07:49]  * Jucato points up ^^^
[07:49] <Kavi> okay give me a minute to transfer that from my laptop via usb stick then.
[07:49] <Jucato> for now all you need to have installed is net-tools, and dhcp3-client
[07:50] <Jucato> also download dhcp3-client and dhcp3-common: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/dhcp3-client and http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/dhcp3-common
[07:51] <Jucato> (you can download them by clicking on the i386 link at the bottom)
[07:52] <Kavi> Cool thanks :D
[07:55] <Kavi> okay I have moved the 3 files over to my desktop
[07:56] <Kavi> What order should I open them?
[07:56] <vinegaroon> Kavi: sudo dpkg -i path_to_file
[07:56] <Jucato> or click on them :)
[07:56] <Jucato> it should launch the installer in Gutsy (GDebi)
[07:56] <vinegaroon> yeah.. why not :D
[07:56] <vinegaroon> I've just never used that..
[07:56] <Jucato> I rarely use it. it's quite new to Kubuntu but Ubuntu had it for quite some time
[07:57] <Kavi> I get a Broken dependencies window.
[07:57] <Jucato> it's advantage over dpkg -i is that it automatically detects and installs missing dependencies (if they're available)
[07:57] <Jucato> Kavi: what does it say?
[07:58] <Kavi> It says: Your system has broken dependencies. This application can not continue until this is fixed. To fix it run 'sudo synaptic' or 'sudo apt-get install -f' in the terminal window.
[07:58] <Jucato> hm.. right... better stick to dpkg -i now :(
[07:58] <Jucato> vinegaroon: you can take it from here :)
[07:59] <vinegaroon> k
[07:59] <vinegaroon> Kavi: any errors if you use sudo dpkg -i path_to_file ?
[07:59]  * Jucato hates it when GUI's give error messages but don't really give enough detail to figure out why
[07:59] <vinegaroon> lol
[08:00] <Jucato> It's like getting punched in the face and being told "I punched you in the face"
[08:00] <Jucato> :/
[08:00] <SSJ_GZ> lol
[08:01] <Piddy>  In my downloaded Windows XP Pro SP2 Image.rar there are 3 images. image.ccd  image.img and image.sub. What shall I do?
[08:02] <Kavi> Okay I'll try to tell you what it said.
[08:03] <Kavi> Selection previously deselected package net-tools.  I want both OSes.
[08:05] <Piddy> Kubuntu and Wxp
[08:05] <Jucato> !piracy
[08:05] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[08:05] <vinegaroon> yeah but did he might not have uninstalled dhcp3-client
[08:06] <Jucato> oh right
[08:06] <Jucato> the command not found was for ifconfig :)
[08:06] <vinegaroon> yeah
[08:06] <Kavi> no... I have not installed those two yet... but it says: there is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 6016 killed old client process, removed PID file ...... blah.... more info.....
[08:07] <vinegaroon> what's the more info?
[08:07] <Jucato> !pastebin | Kavi
[08:07] <ubotu> Kavi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:07] <vinegaroon> ah
[08:07] <vinegaroon> yeah
[08:08] <Kavi> alright... well You will have to give me a minute to type it all out.  As I'm on my laptop I can't copy and paste at the moment.
[08:09] <Jucato> oh right.. um.. hm..
[08:09] <vinegaroon> ok
[08:09] <Jucato> Kavi: can you "ping www.google.com"?
[08:09] <Jucato> (if it works, press Ctrl+C to stop it)
[08:09] <Kavi> yes I can! :)
[08:10] <vinegaroon> :)
[08:10] <Jucato> yay it works :)
[08:10] <Jucato> sudo apt-get to your heart's content (I think)
[08:10] <vinegaroon> now you should be able to get network manager back
[08:11] <bubba> hello
[08:11] <Kavi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58579/
[08:12] <vinegaroon> Kavi: yeah that's fine.. but you already know that
[08:12] <Kavi> Oh thank you sooo!!!! much guys!
[08:12] <Jucato> Kavi: right. it's working
[08:12] <bubba> i´ve just installed kubuntu :)
[08:12] <Jucato> !hi | bubba
[08:12] <ubotu> bubba: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:13] <bubba> ty i like it so far
[08:13] <bubba> i wonder how i install flash
[08:13] <vinegaroon> bubba: good work :)
[08:13] <Jucato> bubba: in the K Menu, go to Add/Remove Programs
[08:13] <Kavi> Yup. sudo apt-get install network-manager is the only thing left then? or do I have other packages missing because of what I did?
[08:13] <vinegaroon> bubba: in firefox it should be automatic when you go to a page requiring it
[08:13] <Jucato> search for "Flash" or "Kubuntu Restricted Extras" to get a whole lot of codecs and plugins
[08:14] <bubba> i dont have firefox
[08:14] <bubba> yet
[08:14] <vinegaroon> oh
[08:14] <bubba> i konqueror
[08:14] <vinegaroon> yep
[08:14] <storbeck> bubba: Are  you talking about a flash viewer, or a flash app to make movies?
[08:14] <Jucato> vinegaroon: installing it through Firefox won't install it for the whole system though
[08:14] <bubba> flash player
[08:15] <bubba> add/remove programs is not loading
[08:15] <vinegaroon> Jucato: yeah.. I was just assuming he wanted it for viewing flash stuff in firefox
[08:15] <Jucato> O.o
[08:15] <Jucato> why isn't it loading? :(
[08:16] <vinegaroon> bubba: you could try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:21] <bubba> sorry i got disconnected
[08:21] <vinegaroon> bubba: did that work?
[08:21] <bubba> i didnt see what u wrote
[08:22] <Jucato> [16:14] <vinegaroon> bubba: you could try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:22] <bubba> i got add/remove programs up now
[08:22] <bubba> its loading
[08:22] <vinegaroon> I haven't used that package but I assume it has flash in it
[08:23] <bubba> kubuntu is really nice
[08:23] <Jucato> vinegaroon: it does
[08:23] <vinegaroon> yeah
[08:24] <Jucato> it has flash, libxine1-ffmpeg (for mp3's and avi's), and java, among other things
[08:24] <vinegaroon> I'm currently using swfdec for flash
[08:24] <Jucato> hm. haven't tried that.. gnash fails utterly for the only purpose I need/want flash
[08:24] <vinegaroon> yeah I mostly just watch the odd youtube video
[08:24] <bubba> see i cant watch youtube
[08:25] <vinegaroon> I'm running hardy atm and gnash isn't working but swfdec runs youtube alright
[08:25] <Jucato> bubba: that's my only use for flash :)
[08:25] <bubba> lol
[08:26] <bubba> so what should i install
[08:26] <vinegaroon> bubba: kubuntu restricted extras
[08:26] <Jucato> if you have Add/Remove Programs up, you can just search for Flash or Kubuntu Restricted Extras
[08:26] <vinegaroon> just put "kubuntu" in the search
 it has flash, libxine1-ffmpeg (for mp3's and avi's), and java, among other things <--- what Kubuntu Restricted Extras has
[08:27] <bubba> ok ty
[08:28] <hacker> hi
[08:28] <vinegaroon> I only discovered today that you can install libdvdcss with libdvdread + a script it has
[08:29] <hacker> 中 国人有没有？
[08:29] <Jucato> !cn | hacker
[08:29] <hacker> 中国的，有没有
[08:29] <ubotu> hacker: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:30] <hacker> NO
[08:30] <Jucato> Speak in English
[08:30] <hacker> yes
[08:31] <bubba> its downloading :)
[08:31] <bubba> i was on suse 10.1....what a change lol
[08:32] <vinegaroon> better?
[08:32] <Jucato> 10.0 and 10.1 where a PITA. 10.3 is probably the best among the series
[08:32] <bubba> its so much faster and looks better
[08:32] <Jucato> s/where/were/
[08:32] <bubba> jucato i heard
[08:32] <Jucato> (funny, I experienced 10.2 and 10.3 to be a bit faster :P)
[08:33] <bubba> really
[08:33] <bubba> 10.1 is slow
[08:34] <tzd> i need help with sharing a folder between kubuntu desktop and ubuntu on a ps3 please? So far I've downloaded samba and installed it.
[08:34] <vinegaroon> does ubuntu have an "official" or recommended way of getting libdvdcss?
[08:35] <vinegaroon> tzd: right click the folder you want to share and go properties
[08:35] <Jucato> !dvdcss
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <Jucato> er...
[08:36] <Jucato> !libdvdcss
[08:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:36] <tzd> vinegaroon: ok
[08:36] <vinegaroon> I know how to install it I just wondered what if there was an official ubuntu method
[08:36] <vinegaroon> tzd: go to the share tab
[08:36] <Jucato> vinegaroon: and that's what I'm pointing to :)
[08:37] <Jucato> (or rather what I'm pointing to through the bot :P)
[08:37] <vinegaroon> oah ok
[08:37] <vinegaroon> medibuntu
[08:39] <vinegaroon> tzd: got that far?
[08:40] <tzd> vinegaroon: ok. Then i just add it to share right? I did this earlier but then I was able to share folders outside my "home" folder. I guess i was logged in as root to do that? Do i need to finetune any settings inside the share tab? Also, there's another tab to the right of the share tab called something like "file share" where I need to start a miniprogram?
[08:41] <vinegaroon> tzd: yes. You probably shouldn't log in as root.
[08:41] <vinegaroon> tzd: my tabs are "share" and "sharing"
[08:41] <vinegaroon> tzd: share is the one you want
[08:42] <tzd> vinegaroon: ok
[08:43] <tzd> vinegaroon: Is that it? Do I need to install samba on the client as well? Don't I need NFS?
[08:43] <vinegaroon> yes you will need samba on the client
[08:44] <tzd> vinegaroon: ah ok. So after I've installed Samba on the client it will work? Do i need to change any settings or share anything on the client?
[08:44] <vinegaroon> you shouldn't need nfs but you could use that instead of samba
[08:44] <vinegaroon> you shouldn't need to do anything on the client
[08:44] <tzd> vinegaroon: is NFS more difficult than samba?
[08:45] <vinegaroon> I don't know too much about graphical ways of using NFS
[08:45] <vinegaroon> so just stick to samba
[08:47] <tzd> vinegaroon: ok. Thanks for your help :)
[08:47] <vinegaroon> tzd: no problem
[08:52] <era32> Dzień dobry!
[09:13] <max_> Have the c++ in KDevelop a class to handle a dinamic list ???
[09:13] <max_> Have the c++ in KDevelop a class to handle a dinamic list ???
[09:16] <SlimeyPete> Please don't spam the channel. I imagine kdevelop will use any c++ libraries you have installed (you probably already have libstdc++ installed, see http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/documentation.html for docs)
[09:24] <Apple_Cat> slow night tonight
[09:35] <Piddy> I have a disc with 3 image files on it, and I don't know how to run it.  The images are in a rar file ON the disc, is this why?
[09:39] <SlimeyPete> yes, that's why.
[09:40] <SlimeyPete> you have to unrar the files first
[09:40] <SlimeyPete> and then if they're disc images, burn them to a CD (as an image, NOT as a file) using k3b
[09:41] <revgreendave>  trying to upgrade to edgy using gksu "update-manager -c" but it says i am uptodate. i am using dapper
[09:42] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: What do you mean "As an image, not as a file"?
[09:44] <ThomasD> good mornin' y'all
[09:44] <ThomasD> I have a little problem with kopete, I start it from konsole, no porblems there, it starts up just fine, but then when I want to set status to online, it does nothing
[09:44] <ThomasD> it doesn't connect to msn server
[09:44] <ThomasD> it doesn't give any error message
[09:44] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: disc images contain files which must be written to the disc. If you just drop an image file onto a data disc project in k3b (or nero) you will just burn a single file (the image). If you tell k3b that you specifically want to burn an image, it will extract the data from the image and burn all the files that are in it.
[09:44] <Piddy> ok
[09:44] <revgreendave> thomasD it could be msn itself
[09:45] <ThomasD> its for 2 days now
[09:45] <revgreendave> sometimes in windows msn wont connect
[09:45] <revgreendave> o
[09:45] <ThomasD> revgreendave: but I think it's kopete
[09:45] <ThomasD> because it doesn't do anything
[09:45] <ThomasD> it doesn't even try to connect
[09:45] <revgreendave> sorry was only trying to be anti windows supportive
[09:46] <revgreendave> msn hates me
[09:46] <ThomasD> np
[09:46] <ThomasD> and we all hate ms
[09:47] <ThomasD> hmm wtf, I just noticed my kwallet is gone
[09:48] <ThomasD> kwalletmanager is there, but no wallet is loaded?
[09:48] <Rettaw> Hello, if an application in Adept is greyed out so and inpossible to select, what causes this?
[09:50] <ThomasD> revgreendave: it's repared now, it was somethink with kwalletmanager
[09:51] <revgreendave> nice...
[09:57] <sbucat> hello i have a problem with alsa
[09:58] <sbucat> NO PREDEFINED KERNEL COMPILER IS DETECTED
[09:58] <sbucat> sorry for
[09:58] <sbucat> that
[09:58] <sbucat> but..it's was written in that way
[09:58] <sbucat> *** Please make sure that the same compiler version was used for building kernel
[09:59] <Piddy> Help? My disc won't eject:S
[09:59] <sbucat> Piddy: try eject on konsole
[09:59] <Piddy> Thanks ;)
[10:02] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: I clicked burn now. "Create Image" or "Only create image"?
[10:05] <Rettaw> never mind
[10:06] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: no, don't create image. You need to burn from an image.
[10:06] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: it's in the new projects menu
[10:06] <SlimeyPete> (i.e. where you select "data cd, data dvd, video dvd" etc.)
[10:07] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: There are so many different image things there. Which one?
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: oh, woops, sorry. It's under "tools" at the op
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> *top
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> not "new project"
[10:08] <Piddy> hm, ok.
[10:08] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: Burn Cd image?
[10:09] <SlimeyPete> what sorts of files were in the RAR archives, btw? an ISO?
[10:09] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: yes that's the one, assuming it's a CD rather than DVD
[10:09] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: THere was image.img, .ccd and .sub.
[10:10] <SlimeyPete> oh... hrm, those are winimage files IIRC. I don't know if k3b will burn them, in fact I'm not sure anything under Linux will burn them (though it may be possible to convert to ISO).
[10:10] <SlimeyPete> it's a proprietary format, you see.
[10:11] <Piddy> Hm, ok. How do I convert to ISO?
[10:11] <SlimeyPete> hmm, cloneCD files, not winimage. Hang on I'll see if I can find a converter.
[10:12] <SlimeyPete> aha. There is a program in the repositories called ccd2iso
[10:12] <SlimeyPete> that'll be what you want. If you can use that to convert the image files to an ISO file then you can use k3b to burn the ISO.
[10:13] <Piddy> ok, hold on.
[10:16] <max_> Have the c++ in KDevelop a class to handle a dinamic list ???
[10:16] <max_> Have the c++ in KDevelop a class to handle a dinamic list ???
[10:16] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: I have no idea how to use the program.
[10:17] <Piddy> I typed ccd2iso, and this came up
[10:17] <Piddy> Usage:
[10:17] <Piddy>         ccd2iso <.img filename> <.iso filename>
[10:17] <Piddy>         ccd2iso <option>
[10:17] <Piddy> option:
[10:17] <Piddy>         -?  -h  --help      show this help
[10:17] <Piddy>             -v  --version   show version number
[10:17] <Piddy> Oops, sorry
[10:17] <SlimeyPete> so ccd2iso image.img image.iso            (I imagine)
[10:20] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: ok. what about the .ccd and .sub?
[10:20] <Creationist> How do I convert a PDF file to something smaller.  It is 62mb and it takes about 30 seconds to load each page for viewing!
[10:20] <SlimeyPete> I should think it'll just pick those up automatically, Piddy. You won't need them any more once it's created the ISO.
[10:21] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: Ok, but won't it need like, a path to the images?
[10:22] <SlimeyPete> well, yes if you're not currently in the same directory. In which case it'd be: ccd2iso /home/piddy/images/image.img /home/piddy/images/image.iso
[10:24] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: Error: cannot open source file for reading!
[10:25] <SlimeyPete> did you use the correct path? The ones I gave above were only intended to be examples.
[10:26] <Piddy> o! I think I types images with a small i. hold on
[10:26] <Piddy> Yes, it works =D
[10:26] <SlimeyPete> :)
[10:26] <SlimeyPete> once it's created the ISO, use k3b to burn it as discussed earlier.
[10:27] <SlimeyPete> then when you look on the disc you will probably see lots of files rather than just the image files.
[10:27] <Jucato> hm... not this again?
[10:28] <Piddy> ok
[10:31] <pitfall> hi there
[10:31] <pitfall> I'm using kde 4.0.2
[10:31] <pitfall> when dist-upgrading, apt said :
[10:32] <pitfall>  following packages have been kept back: kde4libs-bin kdeartwork-style-kde4 kdelibs5 klipper-kde4 kwin-kde4 systemsettings-kde4
[10:32] <pitfall> Do I miss something ?
[10:32] <Jucato> pitfall: might want to check with the people in #kubuntu-kde4 if it's a known issue
[10:33] <pitfall> Jucato: thx
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> pitfall, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> pitfall, ah
[10:35]  * Jucato scratches his head
[10:36] <pitfall> ActionParsnip: thats what I was doing : apt-get install kde4core do the trick :)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> pitfall, did you sudo apt-get update first?
[10:47] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: Yes, there are lots of other files on the disc now. What do I do?
[10:48] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: well, that depends what software it is. If it's an OS you'll probably have to reboot with the disc in the drive, for other software you'll need to locate the installer on the disc.
[10:50] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: It's an OS
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> then you'll need to reboot with the disc in the drive. It should boot from the CD, I imagine.
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> most do.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> SlimeyPete, could boot it in a virtualbox ;)
[10:52] <SlimeyPete> well yes, indeed.
[10:53] <SlimeyPete> I'd assumed that Piddy wanted to install it onto the machine itself but if virtualisation is wanted then virtualbox is indeed the way to go :)
[10:53] <Piddy> Nah, no virtualisation.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> its a good way to test if it is an OS too without having to reboot
[11:00] <Apple_Cat> how can i turn ksnapshot off ?tried in keyboard shortcuts and the program itself
[11:02] <Apple_Cat> or just use xmodmap ?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> input actions -> preset
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> actions -> printscreen.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, any good?
[11:11] <Apple_Cat> yep thanks a bunch ^.^
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, np :D
[11:14] <Apple_Cat> how are you this evening/ today anyway ?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, its 11:20am here
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, not bad
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> you ok?
[11:18] <Apple_Cat> yep doing alright thanks
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, where you from?
[11:19] <Apple_Cat> Australia
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> UK represent over here
[11:20] <Apple_Cat> haha
[11:22] <Apple_Cat> got much planned for today ?
[11:22] <jussi01> ahem...
[11:22] <Apple_Cat> i mean.... thanks for fixing that problem *cough cough*
[11:23]  * Apple_Cat hides
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> work for anoher 4 hours,then chillin
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> *koff*
[11:25] <Apple_Cat> oh cool, where are you working ?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, www.ultimatesoftware.com
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, what do you do?
[11:33] <Apple_Cat> student
[11:34]  * jussi01 points at #kubuntu-offtopic ...
[11:35] <Apple_Cat> point taken
[11:36] <Apple_Cat> (for the second time)
[11:37] <Piddy> How do I boot from a cd?
[11:38] <Piddy> Just reboot? No buttons?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, you need to make your bios boot from cd
[11:38] <Piddy> actionParsnip, how?
[11:38] <Apple_Cat> in bios there should be a boot priority menu
[11:38] <Piddy> bios?
[11:39] <Piddy> Don't know what that is.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, it varies from Bios to bios, you'll need to rtfm
[11:39] <Piddy> I didn't understand a word of that:S
[11:39] <Piddy> lol
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, its the stuff no your screen before your operating system loads up
[11:39] <Piddy> oh
[11:39] <Apple_Cat> it should say press __key to go to menu when it boots up
[11:39] <Piddy> ok... what do I do when I'm in the menu?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, which menu?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, if yuo mean the bios menu, it varies massively
[11:40] <Piddy> Before the system starts up thing.
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, get your bios manual out or download it online
[11:40] <A-mak> hi all, need a bit of help getting kubuntu installed.
[11:40] <Piddy> Where can I download it?
[11:41] <rockprincess> A-mak: fire away! what's the problem?
[11:41] <A-mak> I'm attempting to installed kubuntu on my laptop. However the install bombs out when it try's to create the new partitions because my swap is in use by it
[11:41] <A-mak> I've attempted to use the built in partition tool but it failed me and said it cant because its in use by another application
[11:41] <rockprincess> A-mak: bombs out?
[11:41] <A-mak> like
[11:42] <A-mak> it goes "scanning file structer" or something like that
[11:42] <A-mak> then poof.. installer is not running anymore
[11:42] <rockprincess> A-mak: try using "qparted" or "gparted" as a partitioner tool.......
[11:42] <jussi01> !rtfm > ActionParsnip
[11:42] <A-mak> yeah I tried that, but it says it cant do anything because another program is using it
[11:43] <Apple_Cat> Piddy: what kind of motherboard do you have ?
[11:43] <rockprincess> A-mak: what other program would be using it? try this...this should get you sorted: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[11:43] <Piddy> Apple_Cat no idea xD
[11:43] <Apple_Cat> laptop or desktop ?
[11:43] <A-mak> I'll boot it up and let you know, before it said a program was using it, qparted said the drive was busy :(
[11:44] <rockprincess> A-mak: try gparted.....
[11:44] <A-mak> I tried to umount /dev/sda0 but it says command not found
[11:44] <Piddy> Apple_Cat desktop
[11:44] <rockprincess> A-mak: are you using the alternate install cd or the desktop install?
[11:44] <A-mak> desktop install
[11:45] <Apple_Cat> what kind of desktop do you have ?
[11:45] <A-mak> IBM R31 laptop
[11:45] <A-mak> dual boots, had XP PRO + slackware on it.. then after much trouble XP PRO + Ubuntu 7.10 (I prefer KDE) now trying to get kubuntu 7.10 on their
[11:45] <rockprincess> A-mak: for the future, alternate/text based installs are better....
[11:46] <A-mak> hmm I'll go grab it
[11:46] <Apple_Cat> sorry, what kind of desktop do you have, Piddy?
[11:46] <rockprincess> A-mak: wait
[11:46] <rockprincess> A-mak: are you still using Ubuntu 7.10?
[11:46] <Piddy> Apple_Cat, what do you mean? Like, Compaq?
[11:46] <rockprincess> A-mak: if so , you could just install the kubuntu-desktop package...without having to reinstall everything
[11:47] <A-mak> nah I just tried to boot then got a grub error.. I think I managed to format the linux partition last night
[11:47] <rockprincess> ah ok
[11:47] <Apple_Cat> yeah, maybe model number if you have it, or if you're still running windows you could check what kind of mobo you have in there, Piddy
[11:48] <A-mak> I did think of installing the package.. but then I didnt want the gnome stuff and am a bit lazy in going through that package manager
[11:48] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: It's the other way around. I'm on Kubuntu, installing Windows. Gonna dualboot.
[11:48] <rockprincess> you'd only needed to remove the ubuntu-desktop....then i think all gnome stuff would have been gone....afaik
[11:48] <Apple_Cat> ooh so you have kubuntu running ?
[11:49] <A-mak> ahk wish I had of joined this chat on sat :P. Will bother you if I get stuck again rockprincess, thanks for the help!
[11:49] <rockprincess> no worries
[11:49] <A-mak> is gparted on the kubuntu live cd?
[11:50] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: Yes.
[11:50] <rockprincess> i dunno....maybe qtparted is....
[11:50] <A-mak> yeah I've got QTParted thats what I was using last night
[11:50] <Apple_Cat> if you have kubuntu running, Piddy, run "dmidecode -q | less" then paste it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:50] <rockprincess> did it look like this? http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[11:51] <A-mak> not QTparted
[11:51] <A-mak> I have it up now
[11:51] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: It just says (END)
[11:51] <A-mak> yeah, Drive info device /dev/sda... Status busy.
[11:52] <A-mak> yet /dev/sda is not mounted (according to mtab).. personally I think its kubuntu utilising the swap
[11:52] <Apple_Cat> sorry put sudo in front of it first, Piddy
[11:54] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58590/
[11:54] <A-mak> rockprincess, QTparted reports that /dev/sda3 cannot be deleted because it is mounted.. yet in konsole umount say s/dev/sda3 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[11:54] <rockprincess> A-mak: don't use QTparted!  I'll just use the alternate install cd
[11:57] <A-mak> sounds alot easier
[11:57] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58591/
[11:58] <rockprincess> A-mak: downloading the alternate install will take you several hours...because it's a big ISO file..however downloading gparted will take you only a few minutes....
[11:58] <A-mak> I have 15mbit down...
[11:59] <Apple_Cat> Piddy: your mobo is an Evo D510 CMT
[11:59] <A-mak> rockprincess, its going to take me 8min ;) :P. Thanks for trying.
[12:00] <Piddy> Apple_Cat. Ok. Will that be a problem or something?
[12:01] <Apple_Cat> nope,sorry i was just looking up a manual for it or something but it should be fine, you might just have to read what you see in the menu, Piddy
[12:01] <Piddy> Ok, so how do I open the menu?
[12:01] <Apple_Cat> pressing F10 will get you into bios when first booting
[12:01] <Piddy> F8?
[12:01] <Piddy> Ok.
[12:02] <Piddy> Thanks for the help :D
[12:03] <Apple_Cat> np ^.^
[12:03] <Piddy> Ok, cya:D Gonna try and install now:P
[12:03] <Apple_Cat> oki cool
[12:04] <Apple_Cat> just a tip for next time, I'd probably install windows first, then kubuntu over the top of it
[12:04] <Apple_Cat> eek too slow -_-
[12:05] <spiroo> When I use KDE4.0.2, I just get blank/black screen when I login. I have it installed besides KDE3. How do I fix? Nobody answers in kubuntu-kde4.
[12:05] <Eirikeb> kick the computer/throw the monitor out from the nearest available skyscraper!
[12:14] <jussi01> can anyone recomend me a decent, yet simple to learn prgram that I can draw some basic plans for a "box" of sorts. Im thinking cad like, but much simpler
[12:14] <Apple_Cat> inkscape, blender ?
[12:15] <zimon> xfig
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, Kolourpaint / gpaint
[12:15] <Apple_Cat> http://www.blender.org/ , http://www.inkscape.org/
[12:16] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: no. not that simple. I dont just want to draw a box, i want to make a sort of "plan"
[12:16] <Apple_Cat> http://www.xfig.org/ , http://kolourpaint.sourceforge.net/ , http://www.gnu.org/software/gpaint/
[12:17] <meuhlol> Hi all
[12:17] <meuhlol> I have a little problem, with my External HDD
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !ask
[12:17] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)