[00:38] <guiverc> read thru complete; nothing stood out Bashing-om
[00:40] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Well ! Wonders never cease :P Was somewhat hectic in getting the WIKI together.
[10:30] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Design and Web team summary – 28 June 2021 @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-28-june-2021
[12:20] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Linux Kernel 5.13 Released, This is What’s New @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/06/new-linux-5-13-kernel-features (by Joey Sneddon)
[15:09] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::UbuntuOnAir:: Community Office Hours 1st July 2021 @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzK4vQulZk8 (by Ubuntu OnAir)
[16:17] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Ubuntu Makes a Major Theme Change For its Next Release @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/06/ubuntu-21-10-yarn-theme-change (by Joey Sneddon)
[19:11] <Bashing-om> UWN: Pulling "WIP" Log checked and another Ubuntu OnAir item to add. Time to push 20:00 UTC.
[19:59] <Bashing-om> UWN: ubuntu-news@lists is away - doing the Forum post next. :D
[20:24] <Bashing-om> UWN: Forum post completed - Doing the Re-Directs next. :D
[20:32] <Bashing-om> UWN: Re-directs done - Pending is release to the Social Medias :P
[20:34] <Bashing-om> Away for a spell to manicure the easterly fields with lawn mower.
[21:16] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: How to use managed IT services like the Fortune 500 @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/managed-it-services-like-the-fortune-500
[21:44] <Bashing-om> East field - manicured :P Back to regularly scheduled programming :D
[22:02] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Need a Linux Gaming Laptop? Check Out the TUXEDO Stellaris @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/06/tuxedo-stellaris-linux-laptop-price-specs (by Joey Sneddon)
[22:50] <guiverc> okay to push 689 to fridge Bashing-om
[22:53] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yup - Push to the Fridge. No issues are known - note I made a OnAir addition to this issue.
[22:54] <guiverc> https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/06/28/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-689/
[22:55] <guiverc> tweeted 689
[22:56] <Bashing-om> Fridge looks good :D
[22:56] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Clear now to wipe our evidence ?
[22:57] <guiverc> yep... clear away :)
[23:07] <Bashing-om> UWN: We do issue 690 :D
[23:12] <guiverc> tor browser still not working this box, have turned on a QA install box so adding tor there for fb post..  in mean time I opened window (nice sunny clear day outside) & now I can't read this screen
[23:13] <guiverc> tor fails to run there, must be an impish issue - bug time
[23:29] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 689 @ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/06/28/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-689/
[23:50] <guiverc> switched to focal & tor works; but no 2fa from fb (usual; often takes hours-days-weeks-never..)


[23:14] <Steeve> Anyone else suspect they got a bad rollout of the new point release?
[23:14] <Steeve> I just did regular system updates and it looks like a bunch of qt stuff got removed
[23:14] <Steeve> vlc, wireshark, virtualbox
[23:16] <Steeve> If it helps anyone else, just be extra cautious if you are on 22.04.2 and have updates waiting related to the next point release


[09:41] <mrbrdo> one more thing, how can i make audacity work with arts? it can't find my sound devices
[09:43] <besonen_mobile> anyone around who's installed kubuntu on a laptop with a physical switch that turns the wireless signal off?  i'm wondering if during the installation of kubuntu if the wireless switch is 'off' is there a chance that the installer might not have detected the wireless hardware?  i'm installing onto a lenovo thinkpad t60.
[09:44] <easytiger> well can the os see the card?
[09:44] <ubuntu_> does kubuntu install flawless onto the new macbooks macbooks pro?
[09:44] <fernando__> hi, How can I change the initial login windows???
[09:44] <fernando__> it is possible on kubuntu??
[09:45] <zorglu_> fernando__:  google for "kdm themes"
[09:45] <zorglu_> for=around :)
[09:45] <besonen_mobile> easytiger:  immediately after reboot, before turing the switch on, i checked kinfocenter and there was no entry for the card.  is there somewhere else i can check?
[09:46] <fernando__> zorglu: thanks
[09:46] <fernando__> :-)
[09:46] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Two things, lspci, and tail -f /var/log/messages while you turn it off then back on again.
[09:46] <besonen_mobile> ubuntu_:  get a lenovo thinkpad t60 if you haven't already purchased a macbook.
[09:47] <zorglu_> http://aaron.instantspot.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/2/15/Easily-manage-KDM-themes-in-Kubuntu <- fernando__ even better :)
[09:47] <besonen_mobile> thanks jhutchins
[09:47] <bxnp> what about the thinkpad t60 besonen_mobile
[09:47] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: It _should_ be detected when you turn it on, but it may not have a native driver.  Figure out what chipset it is and see !wireless to track down the drivers.
[09:48] <besonen_mobile> bxnp:  t60s are the best laptops currently available imho
[09:49] <jarn> What's the graphical package manger called?
[09:49] <stdin> !adept
[09:49] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:49] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  there's nothing that happens during the installation that is dependent on what hardware is detected since all of the drivers are in the kernel, correct?
[09:50] <jarn> When I try to run adept it says that that's not a command.
[09:50] <fernando__> zorglu_: jaja I found the same after you tip :-) thanks again :-)
[09:50] <zorglu_> cool :)
[09:50] <stdin> jarn: try adept_manager
[09:50] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  thus whenever you boot kubuntu it auto-dectects the hardware and if the kernel supports it it works, correct?
[09:51] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with how to limit a certain users ssh access to be a certain jailed folder?  such as locking them to /var/www/ so they can admin a website, but do nothign else
[09:51] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Some stuff is extra, and if it's an unsupported chipset I don't think it will even install during installation.
[09:51] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: More and more stuff is detected if it's hotplugged.
[09:51] <jhutchins> As opposed to during boot.
[09:51] <jhutchins> bur[n] er: chroot.
[09:51] <jarn> stdin: Thanks. How do symlinks work? I'd like to set up one so I can just use adept.
[09:52] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  so it's not likely that i would need to do a reinstallation.  if it's supported the support will already be present?
[09:52] <bur[n] er> jhutchins, how do i do it?  I tried using scponlyc but I can't login with winscp from the client
[09:52] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Correct, you may need to adjust somethings, but reinstalltion isn't needed.
[09:52] <stdin> jarn: you don't have to, you can just make an alias in your ~/.bashrc file, or just use the Kmenu to open adept
[09:52] <bur[n] er> jhutchins, do I keep bash as the users shell?  how do I configure ssh for chroot?
[09:53] <jarn> stdin: But don't aliases only work through the command line?
[09:53] <bxnp> az-new castle united 2-0 :)
[09:53] <jhutchins> bur[n] er: I'm not completely sure about that, you'd want to read some of the ssh howto's somewhere like http://tldp.org.
[09:53] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  does "adjust somethings" mean that these adjustments may have taken place automatically during the installation if the hardware was detected at that point?
[09:53] <bur[n] er> I think this should be on the wiki :)
[09:53] <stdin> jarn: why do you need to make a link, the entry in the kmenu works
[09:54] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Possibly, but possibly not.
[09:54] <jarn> stdin: But I don't like the kmenu. I like to run things with alt+F2 when I need them, it's much quicker.
[09:54] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Many wireless cards are not natively supported and need manual configuration.
[09:54] <Danker> On witch day is going Kubuntu to be released?
[09:55] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  thanks, i'll wipe the partitions and re-install just to be sure.  it only took about 20 minutes.
[09:55] <jhutchins> bur[n] er: You also might be able to do it with either standard unix permissions (make user part of group apache), or set up an ACL system.
[09:55] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Really, that would be a waste of time.
[09:55] <bur[n] er> jhutchins, if i make them www-data, is that good?
[09:56] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  understood.  except that i don't want to have to figure out what might be "missing".
[09:56] <stdin> jarn: you can set a shortcit to launch it too, or put a script in ~/bin/, but If you want to make a symlink "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/adept_manager /usr/bin/adept"
[09:56] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Determine the chipset, find out what driver it needs, follow the wiki.
[09:56] <jarn> stdin: Thanks.
[09:57] <fernando__> zorglu_: I installed but I can found this "Control Center menu" the website point.. do you know where is that?
[09:57] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: If it doesn't work when you turn it on, chances are that re-installing isn't going to do any good, and you're still going to have to determine the chipset and set up the card.
[09:57] <fernando__> zorglu_: I can't..
[09:57] <zorglu_> fernando__: it is likely 'kcontrol'. try "kcontrol" in a terminal
[09:58] <fernando__> zorglu_: thanks again :-)
[09:58] <zorglu_> :)
[09:58] <jhutchins> !de > fernando__
[09:59] <fyrmedic> anyone know a good link with instructions for installing and configuring fglrx
[09:59] <jhutchins> fernando__: You'll probably want to do kdesu kcontrol, which you can do from Alt-F2.
[09:59] <jhutchins> !beryl | fyrmedic
[09:59] <ubotu> fyrmedic: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:00] <jhutchins> !compiz | fyrmedic
[10:00] <ubotu> fyrmedic: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:01] <fyrmedic> jhutchins: thanks but none of them are going to work until I get fglrx installed and running right.
[10:01] <zorglu_> :)
[10:01] <zorglu_> there is a page for that
[10:01] <zorglu_> !fglrx
[10:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:01] <zorglu_> bla :)
[10:01] <Smorg> ello
[10:01] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: I think it's in the compiz stuff, and probably the beryl stuff too.
[10:01] <Smorg> anyone around here have experience with the linuxant modem drivers, or knows of any equivilant?
[10:02] <jhutchins> Since they both rely on it, and are about the only things that use it.
[10:03] <ubuntu> hi guys, i cant access my linux on laptiop, i boot from a live cd and cant mount, help apeciated
[10:04] <Smorg> got enough ram?
[10:05] <fyrmedic> jhutchins; thanks
[10:05] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  i understand that a re-install is unlikely to improve the situation in terms of the hardware being usable.  btw, i turned the switch on and it appears to be detected.  but even though it's detected i re-install makes sense to me.  why?  because i don't know squat about the kubuntu installation process.  and i really want to have a "pristine" installation.  for all i know kubuntu adds some extra wireless options to the
[10:05] <besonen_mobile>  K menu if it detects a wireless card *during* the installation.  does it make sense now why i want to re-install?
[10:06] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Nope.
[10:06] <Smorg> nobody uses modems here? ^^
[10:06] <jhutchins> 99% of the install has nothing to do with the wireless stuff, and you can install all you need by hand.
[10:06] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  :-)
[10:06] <jhutchins> Smorg: Not softmodems.
[10:07] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: do apt-cache search wireless and see what you have to choose from.
[10:07] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Linux is meant to be modified and reconfigured without having to be reinstalled.
[10:08] <jhutchins> _especialy_ the networking.
[10:08] <slyfox> how do I force remove direcotry with a command even if it is not empty ?
[10:08] <jhutchins> slyfox: rm -r
[10:08] <neoncode> Does anyone remember that GLScube program that was in devlopment a while back?
[10:08] <darkserver3> konban wa!!!
[10:09] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  by writing that "99% of the install has nothing to do with the wireless stuff" you demonstrate that you know way more about the kubuntu installation process than me.  thus reason for *me* to reinstall.  because i don't know what i'm doing.  enough of this ramble.  thank you for you help.  really.
[10:09] <slyfox> jhutchins: sudo rmdir -r /home/slyfox/.beryl/   ?
[10:09] <darkserver3> do you remember the repository of the new beryl if this really exists???
[10:10] <jhutchins> slyfox: rm -r .beryl
[10:10] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  i understand linux is meant to be re-configurable and modified on-the-fly.
[10:10] <jhutchins> slyfox: or rm -rf .beryl - be very careful with f.
[10:10] <besonen_mobile> i'm not a dummy.
[10:10] <darkserver3> stay calm
[10:10] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: You will learn a lot more about the installation process by installing stuff yourself than by just letting the installation run again.
[10:11] <besonen_mobile> understood
[10:11] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: It's easy, it works well, if something's missing you just add it.
[10:11] <slyfox> jhutchins: what does r and f mean ?
[10:11] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: The main installer is not meant to be a reconfiguration tool.
[10:12] <jhutchins> slyfox: r means recursive, f means force.
[10:12] <jhutchins> rm -rf / will fubar your system.
[10:12] <slyfox> jhutchins: recursive means anything inside the folder ?
[10:12] <jhutchins> Yes, and is required for folders.
[10:13] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  if you could tell me definitively how the kubuntu installation differs depending on whether or not a wireless device is detected then i would have no problem making those changes and skipping the re-install.
[10:13] <jhutchins> Sure.
[10:15] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: I'm checking some things because ubuntu is not my primary system...
[10:16] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: It probably didn't install kwifimanager
[10:16] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: or wlassistant.
[10:17] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Other than that it's just a matter of finding which set of drivers you need, and like I said the installer might not haev done that anyway.
[10:17] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: So, shall we determine what card you have?
[10:18] <besonen_mobile> ok
[10:18] <jhutchins> turn it off; open a console.
[10:18] <besonen_mobile> booting
[10:18] <jhutchins> Ah.
[10:19] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  what is your primary os?
[10:19] <jhutchins> Mandriva.
[10:19] <besonen_mobile> booting almost complete
[10:19] <besonen_mobile> how long have you used Mandriva?
[10:19] <jhutchins> RedHat and SuSE too, so I'm from the SysV/RPM universe.
[10:20] <besonen_mobile> 3, 4, 5 years?
[10:20] <jhutchins> been running servers since RH2.1, ~1996.  Switched to a Linux desktop about four years ago.
[10:20] <besonen_mobile> ok, i have a console
[10:21] <jhutchins> Has the HD light stopped flashing?
[10:21] <besonen_mobile> yup
[10:21] <jhutchins> turn the card on, see if the HD does anything.
[10:21] <besonen_mobile> have you ever touch solaris?
[10:21] <jhutchins> when it's through, type dmesg<enter>
[10:22] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Nope.
[10:22] <besonen_mobile> i booted with the card turned on.
[10:22] <darkserver3> where i can find info about how to conect via wireless my two laptops...
[10:22] <jhutchins> A little HP/IBM unix.
[10:22] <jhutchins> !wireless | darkserver3
[10:22] <ubotu> darkserver3: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:22] <darkserver3> yeah!!
[10:22] <darkserver3> ok
[10:22] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  wireless options show up in the knetworkmanager.
[10:23] <darkserver3> it's because i have solaris 10 in on of then...  and in this is the other man...
[10:23] <darkserver3> knetworkmanager.
[10:23] <darkserver3> ok
[10:24] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Great!  That means your card is enabled!  Do you need further help?
[10:24] <darkserver3> thanks... now i gonna take my time to read...
[10:25] <darkserver3> do you know about arris touchestone cablemodem
[10:25] <darkserver3> ??
[10:25] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  how do we determine the chipset?
[10:26] <jhutchins> lspci (in console)
[10:26] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  what brings you over to kubuntu if you're happy with Mandriva?
[10:27] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  chipset is by Atheros, an AR5212
[10:27] <jhutchins> I want to learn about how debian-based distros do things; I'm not happy with any of the current rpm-based offerings for servers, and debian seems to be the preferred flavor for servers.
[10:28] <house> hi
[10:28] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Ok, you should have all the drivers you need.
[10:28] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  have you ever heard of ZFS?
[10:28] <d_ed> or "Time Machine" if you want to give ZFS a fancy animation too :-D
[10:29] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  does Atheros have good linux support?
[10:29] <jhutchins> sudo apt-get install kwifimanager
[10:29] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Yes.
[10:29] <ZmAY> hello, need some help
[10:29] <d_ed> besonen_mobile: it depends on the chip
[10:29] <d_ed> some work perfectly with mad-wifi
[10:29] <jhutchins> d_ed: True, there aer a few that claim to be atheros and aren't too.
[10:29] <d_ed> (included in ubuntu) others don't at all. and you're left with ndiswrapper
[10:29] <besonen_mobile> ZmAY:  just say what you need.
[10:30] <jhutchins> d_ed: Have you done atheros in kubuntu?
[10:30] <ZmAY> i cant access to the net, error is: No DHCPOFFERS recived
[10:30] <ian6> I'm trying to setup knetworkmanager to work with a vpn on Feisty, but it can't find nm-vpn-properties. I'm not sure which package that's in, does anyone have any advice?
[10:30] <d_ed> jhutchins:  I know mine doesn't
[10:30] <d_ed> but the previous model of my laptop works out the box
[10:30] <ZmAY> i did not change anything
[10:30] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  did you seem my ZFS question?
[10:31] <d_ed> jhutchins: I'm left with ndiswrapper, but ndiswrapper is causing me a kernel freeze
[10:31] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: I'm not really familiar with it.
[10:31] <bxnp> d_ed: dont load the module during boot
[10:31] <bxnp> ndiswrapper
[10:32] <bxnp> or dont you experience the problem during boot d_ed
[10:32] <d_ed> anyway, reason I'm here is I'm being a 'tard. GCC isn't defaulting to include "/usr/include" when runnign standalone
[10:32] <d_ed> it's off in boot
[10:32] <ZmAY> any suggestions what to do?
[10:33] <d_ed> it asplodes on Modprobe..I'll sort that one out myself, I'll just boot up a shiny compiled version with ndis built in . I logged in to talk about my GCC issue
[10:33] <jhutchins> ZmAY: What's your DHCP server?
[10:33] <ZmAY> u mean that 2 servers from my ISP?
[10:33] <fernando> I have lost on my kde sesion many icon for all my programs, for example after I select a program, normally close to the mouse cursor a small icon of the program selected move, but now I always get the same small cube
[10:34] <d_ed> I currently have to run GCC -I /usr/include   and I'm sure that's not normal behaviour.
[10:34] <d_ed> fernando: do you have the icons in your "start menu"?
[10:34] <fernando> yes
[10:34] <ZmAY> it worked fine til today, and i didnt change anything
[10:34] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Restart your networking.
[10:34] <ZmAY> how
[10:35] <fernando> but for example konqueror has lost its icon on the bar
[10:35] <d_ed> fernando: and you've tried logging out and coming back in again?
[10:35] <fernando> also kopete
[10:35] <fernando> yes, I did it
[10:35] <jhutchins> ZmAY: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:35] <d_ed> ok, seems to have lost the tiny icons...
[10:35] <d_ed> sec
[10:35] <besonen_mobile> jhutchins:  check out ZFS, it looks very promising.  i'd like to see something similar be available for lunix in the near future but that seems unlikely.  thanks again for your help.  gotta run.
[10:36] <fernando> d_ed: sec = shoud I wait??
[10:36] <jhutchins> besonen_mobile: Good luck!
[10:36] <d_ed> fernando: have you changed icon sets recently?
[10:37] <ZmAY> jhutchins: doesent work
[10:37] <d_ed> foreach app you get two icons a 32x32 and 16x16 you seem to have lost the smaller ones
[10:37] <jhutchins> ZmAY: How are you connected?
[10:37] <ZmAY> jhutchins: send_packet: network is unreachable
[10:38] <fernando> but how??? i did anythink to lose them
[10:38] <ZmAY> what do u mean, with cable:)
[10:38] <d_ed> fernando: okies. try going to settings:/LookNFeel in konqueror
[10:38] <jhutchins> cable modem?
[10:38] <ZmAY> vdsl
[10:38] <d_ed> then click icons. then click "Defaults"
[10:38] <d_ed> setting things to defaults fixes most things
[10:38] <jhutchins> ZmAY: pppoe or direct ethernet?  Do you have to log in?
[10:39] <ZmAY>  direct
[10:39] <jhutchins> Reset the cable modem.
[10:39] <ZmAY> ok, let me try.. brb
[10:39] <fernando> d_ed: I can see settings on konqueror but that is that of LookNFeel
[10:39] <fernando> but what is that of LookNfeel
[10:40] <d_ed> ok...open up control panel
[10:40] <d_ed> and select appearance
[10:40] <d_ed> it's the same thing
[10:40] <fernando> yes..  I need to know which mouse buttons are my mouse buttons, if you knwo what I mean.
[10:44] <ZmAY> have laptop with win on it
[10:44] <fernando> d_ed: the small icons are there, because if a search now for "slash" then I can see the small icon
[10:45] <ZmAY> beside pc
[10:46] <ZmAY> "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[10:46] <ZmAY> no DHCPOFFERS recived
[10:46] <jhutchins> ZmAY: have you had both on at the same time before?
[10:47] <ZmAY> yes
[10:47] <jhutchins> How may IP's does your ISP allow?
[10:47] <ZmAY> 2
[10:48] <seckshooal> Hei.
[10:48] <jhutchins> You understand what the error messages are telling you?
[10:49] <compilerwriter> !floppy disk
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about floppy disk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <seckshooal> Problem: I have mp3 codecs installed, but when I go to burn an audio cd using k3b I get this message. "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:"
[10:49] <ZmAY> tell me, i understand it in this way that there is no dhcp that can be reached
[10:49] <fernando> d_ed: I fix the problem.. so don't worry about it
[10:49] <zaden> Hey room
[10:49] <compilerwriter> How does one go about mounting a floppy disk?
[10:49] <jhutchins> !floppy | compilerwriter
[10:49] <ubotu> compilerwriter: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[10:49] <fernando> d_ed: thanks :-)
[10:50] <zaden> Question, When i try to install  kubuntu cd it says i can not create partions because im not root
[10:50] <d_ed> I'll take that as me fixing it 'coz I'm a genius
[10:50] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Yeah, so there's a good chance it's a problem with your ISP.
[10:50] <zaden> how do i become root and whats the password for root
[10:50] <zaden> i tryed su root
[10:50] <zaden> but i need a password
[10:50] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Have you reset the network since restarting the modem?
[10:50] <ZmAY> so i should call them and ask what
[10:50] <ZmAY> not yet, wait
[10:50] <jhutchins> !sudo | zaden
[10:50] <ubotu> zaden: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:51] <jhutchins> !kdesu | zaden
[10:51] <ubotu> zaden: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:51] <fernando> ????
[10:51] <zaden> so !kdesu zaden?
[10:52] <ZmAY> its the same
[10:52] <honestlyenough> Hello.
[10:52] <jhutchins> zaden: You should read the link above, you do kdesu <application>.
[10:52] <honestlyenough> I've got a really FUBAR'd machine. The CMOS battery, I suspect doesn't function. However, if the CMOS battery doesn't work, is that in any way a cause for this sort of behavior?: http://phpfi.com/215957
[10:52] <honestlyenough> It runs Kubuntu 6.10.
[10:52] <waylandbill> zaden: sudo passwd root  (but you don't normally want to do that)
[10:52] <fernando> how can I change the background of the initial windows on kubuntu??? where is the file with the blue background?
[10:52] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Yeah, I'd check with them.  The only other way would be to reset your windows box, and you might totally loose connectivity then.
[10:52] <waylandbill> zaden: read the sudo link
[10:53] <jhutchins> ZmAY: You may need to avoid mentioning that you're running linux.  Pretent it's a mac or something.
[10:53] <ZmAY> i know that
[10:53] <ZmAY> :9
[10:53] <ZmAY> :)
[10:54] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: That's a wierd one!
[10:54] <ZmAY> but the problem is that net is running smooth here on windows, and the will say it works fine
[10:54] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: Is it possible ntp is getting bad data?
[10:54] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: Indeed.
[10:54] <zaden> ok thanks
[10:54] <jhutchins> ZmAY: Possibly.  Like I said, resetting the windows box might tell you, but you could loose your connection.
[10:54] <zaden> let me se if it works
[10:55] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: No, ntp is not being called intentionally.
[10:55] <ZmAY> ok, let me try:)
[10:55] <ZmAY> brb
[10:55] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: I've never seen a clock do that, it's possible that the clock's fried.
[10:56] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: The clock can't be fried... I'm guessing it's a battery (because that actually makes sense) but then that leads me to wonder, how else can I keep the box from doing this?
[10:56] <jhutchins> Run ntp.
[10:57] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: The clock could be fried - anything can fail.  Has this persisted through a reboot?
[10:57] <bomber> hello
[10:58] <ZmAY> i restarted, same as before
[10:58] <bomber> im running the edgy live cd and want to be able to mount my windows partition read write so i can copy files and im not having any luck
[10:59] <jhutchins> bomber: vfat or ntfs?
[10:59] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: Yes, forever.
[11:00] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: I'm not running ntp to isolate the problem.
[11:00] <bomber> ntfs
[11:00] <jhutchins> !ntfs | bomber
[11:00] <ubotu> bomber: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:00] <bomber> thanks
[11:01] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: ntp's the only thing I know of that will adjust the clock skew.  I'd definitely boot to a live CD or some other OS and see if it was a problem there too.
[11:01] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: You may be looking for nosmoke.exe.
[11:02] <jhutchins> (Software solution to a hardware problem.)
[11:02] <zaden> alrightty
[11:03] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: nosmoke.*exe*?
[11:04] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: Trying to fix something with software that can only be fixed at the hardware level.
[11:04] <zaden> can you link me to sudo and kdesu again please
[11:05] <honestlyenough> jhutchins: But .exe?
[11:05] <compilerwriter> Ok I made the change in /etc/fstab now how do I access my floppy drive
[11:05] <compilerwriter> !mount
[11:05] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:05] <jhutchins> honestlyenough: Old tech support story about a user who was convinced there was a way to stop the smoke.  Tech ended up telling her to take it back to the store because they needed to install nosmoke.exe since it was missing, assumed that the store would deal with the smoke problem once it got there.
[11:05] <compilerwriter> ls
[11:06] <michelangelo> ciao a tutti
[11:07] <michelangelo> c' nessuno?
[11:07] <zaden> how do i use sudo and kdesu
[11:08] <LjL> !sudo > zaden    (zaden, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:09] <compilerwriter> !diskmounter
[11:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:09] <compilerwriter> !fstab
[11:09] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:10] <compilerwriter> I have a windows diskette that I need to read how do I mount it?
[11:11] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, floppy?
[11:11] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, if it's a floppy disk, just insert it and a media detected dialoge box should appear
[11:12] <acemo> anyone here can help me with my bluetooth headset?
[11:13] <bomber> how can i copy the whole drive with cp ? including hidden files and sub direectorys?
[11:14] <compilerwriter> Ashex|work no media detected dialogue box.
[11:14] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, in that case
[11:14] <Ashex|Work> sudo fdisk -l
[11:15] <Ashex|Work> that will list disk volumes by disk
[11:15] <Ashex|Work> floppy will be in there
[11:15] <Ashex|Work> then do a pmount /dev/foo
[11:15] <compilerwriter> Ashex|work no floppy there.
[11:19] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, then either the floppy drive isn't connected, or it is not being detected at all
[11:19] <Ashex|Work> is this on a desktop or laptop?
[11:19] <compilerwriter> It is a desktop
[11:20] <compilerwriter> The floppy drive is connected as far as I can tell.  I used it in windows.
[11:20] <compilerwriter> I mean I used it when my machine was windows.
[11:20] <Ashex|Work> gotcha
[11:20] <Ashex|Work> hmm, did you look for a 1.4MB volume in the output from fdisk -l?
[11:20] <gravygoat> Just looking at the channel topic - Adept is telling me there is a new version of Kubuntu and asking do I want to upgrade, is this actually Feisty or just another test release?
[11:21] <SolidSource> I'm still astonished that someone still uses a floppy
[11:21] <Ashex|Work> gravygoat, I'm pretty sure it's a test release
[11:22] <compilerwriter> Where di I paste again.
[11:22] <gravygoat> Ashex|Work: Thank you
[11:22] <Ashex|Work> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:22] <Ashex|Work> gravygoat, no problem :)
[11:24] <compilerwriter> Ashex|Work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10525/
[11:24] <zaden> im having trouble with sudo and making a user to install kubuntu
[11:24] <zaden> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i -u zaden
[11:24] <zaden> sudo: no passwd entry for zaden!
[11:24] <zaden> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i -u zaden 1
[11:24] <zaden> sudo: no passwd entry for zaden!
[11:24] <compilerwriter> !paste
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:24] <compilerwriter> !paste | zaden
[11:24] <ubotu> zaden: please see above
[11:25] <stdin> zaden: you need to assign a password for the user first "sudo passwd zaden"
[11:25] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, Iooking
[11:25] <Ashex|Work> looking*
[11:25] <alumno> HOLA
[11:25] <alumno> HELLO
[11:26] <zaden> then it says im an unknown user
[11:26] <compilerwriter> I can't remember what I had to do the last time 3 months ago I had to do this.
[11:26] <compilerwriter> I don't use floppys much, but this floppy has my resume on it.
[11:26] <alumno> SPANISH
[11:26] <stdin> zaden: why do you need to make a new user?
[11:26] <compilerwriter> !es | alumno
[11:26] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, that is indeed odd, it doesn't detect it at all
[11:26] <ubotu> alumno: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:26] <zaden> well
[11:27] <zaden> i just want to install kubutu
[11:27] <zaden> since it will not let me use root
[11:27] <zaden> i never used this i used to gentoo
[11:27] <stdin> zaden: don't you see the "install" icon on the desktop ?
[11:27] <zaden> yes
[11:27] <zaden> but
[11:27] <acemo> im trying to connect to my bluetooth headset. when i run sudo btsco -v xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, i get the error "Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Connection refused"
[11:27] <Mena> !pastebin
[11:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:27] <zaden> it will not creat partions
[11:27] <zaden> because i do not have root or some bs
[11:28] <compilerwriter> Ashex|Work do you think I may have accidently disconnected it when I vaccumed it out?
[11:28] <acemo> i think this is because i need to fill in the pin code, but i cant seem to figure out how..
[11:28] <stdin> zaden: huh, what errors do you get?
[11:28] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, it is possibly
[11:28] <Ashex|Work> that would make the most sense to me
[11:28] <Ashex|Work> I'm fairly confident that linux has figured out floppy disk drivers
[11:28] <compilerwriter> I'll shutdown, open it up and look.
[11:28] <Ashex|Work> alright
[11:29] <compilerwriter> thanx.
[11:29] <Ashex|Work> let me know what you find
[11:29] <Ashex|Work> no problem :)
[11:29] <compilerwriter> will do.
[11:29] <zaden> it says
[11:29] <zaden> device not found, YOur many not using root user
[11:29] <Nacht__> does kubuntu have anything like a system restore or backup utility
[11:29] <zaden> in the deskspace section
[11:30] <stdin> !backup | Nacht__
[11:30] <ubotu> Nacht__: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:31] <stdin> zaden: try partitioning your dis first then, "kdesu qtparted" (GUI) or "sudo parted" (CLI), you can use fdisk too
[11:31] <revolution27> Hey.. any ideas why i can't conect to my wireless connection on this new install (never tried wifi before)
[11:31] <revolution27> the connection has no password
[11:32] <stdin> !wifi
[11:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:33] <Nacht__> thanx
[11:33] <zaden> lol
[11:33] <Nacht__> JUST WHAT I NEEDED
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> is it ok that linux uses up almost all of my RAM?
[11:33] <c0nv1ct> it just feels weird having 50mb of free RAM
[11:33] <zaden> brb
[11:34] <stdin> c0nv1ct: yeah, it's normal
[11:34] <stdin> !ram | c0nv1ct
[11:34] <ubotu> c0nv1ct: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[11:34] <c0nv1ct> i figured it uses some sort of management superior to windows :)
[11:34] <c0nv1ct> its always been that way, i just never took the time to understand why :)
[11:35] <stdin> c0nv1ct: it's used as a cache for files, so the disk doesn't need to be read as much
[11:35] <Alonea> I am trying to get the binary driver thing for my video card. it installed ok, but I am still getting mesa. When I do sudo modprobe fglrx, it says : Not loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:36] <c0nv1ct> stdin: explains why it just shot up after i started copying a large amount of files
[11:36] <stdin> Alonea: did you change the driver in xorg.conf to "fglrx" from "ati" ?
[11:36] <Alonea> stdin: probably not, didnt see it in instructions, but the page is a bit disorganized at points. lemme check.
[11:36] <Nacht__> one more thing    why does it say that 6.10 edgy is only supported for 18 months
[11:37] <stdin> Nacht__: because it's only supported for 18 months
[11:37] <Nacht__> what does that mean
[11:37] <c0nv1ct> !SMP
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <Alonea> stdin: no, it wasn't. brb. gonna restart and see if it works now
[11:37] <Nacht__> like after 18 months they are moving to something else
[11:38] <stdin> Nacht__: after 18 months (from release) there will be no more updates for it
[11:38] <Nacht__> that sucks
[11:38] <Nacht__> so i shouldnt get to attached to it
[11:38] <stdin> Nacht__: no, because you can just upgrade to feisty
[11:38] <judgen> where has the compiz-kde package gone?
[11:38] <stdin> Nacht__: or use dapper (6.06)
[11:38] <Nacht__> ok thats good
[11:38] <comandante> alguem fala portugues?
[11:39] <Nacht__> i was worried there
[11:39] <stdin> !pt
[11:39] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:39] <Ashex|Work> Dapper is the exception, it is called Dapper LTS, long-term support
[11:39] <Ashex|Work> I believe it is supported for 5 years
[11:39] <stdin> !lts
[11:39] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[11:39] <comandante> desculpe...so preciso de ajuda
[11:39] <Ashex|Work> ah, 3, my bad
[11:40] <Ashex|Work> there was a 5 in there!
[11:40] <Nacht__> so i can just download and run dapper and it will update this current load
[11:40] <Alonea> yes! thanks for the tip stdin!
[11:40] <stdin> Alonea: the error message was the best clue :P
[11:41] <stdin> Nacht__: you can't downgrade from edgy to dapper, it will have to be a fresh install, if you want dapper
[11:41] <Alonea> stdin: yeah, I figured it had something to do with my xorg, just not completely familar with all the stuff in it.
[11:41] <Nacht__> damn
[11:41] <Nacht__> sounds like a downgrade to use edgy
[11:42] <stdin> Alonea: I've messed with mine so much, I know it quite well now
[11:42] <Alonea> stdin: yeah, I kinda remember the file and I am so dissapointed it wont work with 64bit linux.
[11:43] <Nacht__> but yeah thanx for the info catch you all laer
[11:43] <Nacht__> later
[11:43] <stdin> Alonea: won't it?
[11:45] <Alonea> stdin: nope. it would not install the ati driver and if I did it through repo I got black screen. to fix black screen you gotta change bios settings and when I did that my computer was so slow I could not even load an application.
[11:45] <stdin> Alonea: ahh, why would you want to use 64bit linux tho?
[11:45] <Alonea> I also had some other stuff that didn't really support 64 bit very well so I just went back to 32. it works and thats what matters the most to me at this point.
[11:46] <Alonea> stdin: I have AMD64. thought I would try it out.
[11:46] <judgen> anyone got a working /usr/local/bin/start-compiz on kubuntu that they wanna share
[11:47] <stdin> Alonea: yeah, but I don't see the point of it, unless you're running a server with 4GB+ RAM and need some high preseason math
[11:48] <compilerwriter> Ashex|Work well everything seems well connected.  But now I can only login via ssh from my PC.  I was doing XDMCP and now I can't get that to work.
[11:48] <judgen> stdin: i have 4gb ram, but i dont really care if i cant use it all. I got solaris for that =)
[11:49] <makuseru> how can i check the version of a program?
[11:49] <Alonea> stdin: yeah. I only have 1 gig of ram on this machine, though my dads computer has 3gigs of it. he has dual core and all that jazz.
[11:49] <judgen> what should kde users replace this line with in the startcompiz.sh script? compiz --replace gconf &
[11:50] <judgen> Alonea: i got 16 cores
[11:50] <maddmax> hey
[11:50] <Alonea> judgen: overkill indeed.
[11:51] <maddmax> hey one question
[11:51] <maddmax> im new here
[11:51] <stdin> judgen: gconf is a gnome app, and compiz sux on kde (installing it anyway). Use beryl instead, works great and you can install aquamarine to keep the current window decorations
[11:51] <maddmax> anyone know how to connect to a server like Hispano?
[11:51] <judgen> Alonea: not for my purposes, its not like i "own" it, im just borrowing it, if you know what i mean.
[11:51] <judgen> !compiz
[11:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:52] <stdin> !beryl
[11:52] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:52] <Alonea> judgen: ah, ok.   I just verified that it is connected.  So what could be the deal?
[11:54] <judgen> c0nv1ct: XGL is definitly faster tha AIGLX with the FGLRX drivers
[11:54] <stdin> judgen: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL
[11:54] <c0nv1ct> judgen: ah, ok, cuz i've noticed AIGLX runs way better with my nvidia card
[11:54] <c0nv1ct> not sure how it works with ATI
[11:55] <stdin> c0nv1ct: on nvidia, yeah, but the ati driver sux
[11:55] <acemo> c0nv1ct: ATI has some mayor problems with AIGLX
[11:55] <c0nv1ct> ok, good to know
[11:55] <ubuntu> allright....so i burned the desktop install iso and did a cd check which resultet in 1 failed checksum...i did a hashcheck then on the downloaded iso which was ok
[11:55] <stdin> best driver ever = i810 :)
[11:55] <c0nv1ct> not like i plan on buying an ATI card ever again though :)
[11:55] <ubuntu> burned it again at slower speed and it gave me 7 failed sums on the cd check
[11:56] <ubuntu> what to do_
[11:56] <ubuntu> ?
[11:56] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: bad media?
[11:56] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: what did you use to burn it?
[11:57] <skogen> join # apache
[11:57] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct:  i dont know...the cds never gave me any problems i could notice so far
[11:57] <ubuntu> and i havent got any other type now
[11:57] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: what program did you use to burn it?
[11:57] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct:  er used roxio easy cd creator...was the only thing i had around on that machine
[11:58] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: you might want to try the free program 'imgburn'
[11:58] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: roxio/nero has made too many coasters for my liking :P
[11:59] <ubuntu> c0nv1ct: what did u mean by coasters? sry english isnt my native language
[11:59] <PhilosophyNinja> What programs work for IMing on Linux besides Kopete?
[11:59] <stdin> !im
[11:59] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[11:59] <c0nv1ct> ubuntu: coasters are failed burns, just a friendly term for a useless CD that is only good for a coaster for your drink :P
[11:59] <ubuntu> hey thats an useful bot >(
[11:59] <Alonea> Ok, I think I need to update the firmware on my dvd burner because its not reading some types of blank media correctly.   It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:04] <TRic2> hello
[12:04] <kai> not vnc
[12:04] <PhilosophyNinja> So how would I go about installing Gaim...
[12:04] <Ashex|Work> compilerwriter, that is a little strange
[12:04] <kai> well 2 diff vpn client work 2gether?
[12:04] <TRic2> can anyone help me with acidlab
[12:05] <compilerwriter> Perhaps my floppy drive has died?
[12:05] <c0nv1ct> compilerwriter: floppys are obsolete anyway :P
[12:06] <TRic2> has anyone used acidlab
[12:06] <compilerwriter> True: but a woman worked very hard to write a nice resume for me and she put it on a floppy.
[12:06] <stdin> kai: try looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[12:06] <stdin> kai: afaik it should work
[12:06] <TRic2> anyone
[12:06] <c0nv1ct> compilerwriter: a real professional would of used a CD :P
[12:07] <Alonea> people still use floppys when you can get thumbdrives for cheap?
[12:07] <acemo> when trying to connect to my bluetooth headset using the command sudo btsco -v xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, im getting this error: Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Connection refused
[12:07] <acemo> what could be wrong?
[12:07] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: and when a CD costs less than 50cents
[12:07] <TRic2> thumbdrives are the new floppys
[12:07] <stdin> !bluetooth
[12:07] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:07] <c0nv1ct> i <3 my thumbdrive
[12:07] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: that too. and hell, my employers are like, e-mail me your resume ok?
[12:07] <TRic2> how about instrictions on acidlab
[12:08] <c0nv1ct> Alonea: yeah, even paper is bordering obsolete
[12:08] <TRic2> no paper will never be obsolete
[12:08] <c0nv1ct> my printer broke like 2 years ago, i havent had a need for it
[12:08] <stdin> never say never
[12:08] <compilerwriter> That is not helping me at the moment c0nv1ct
[12:08] <TRic2> i aint going to wipe my but with a cd
[12:08] <Alonea> c0nv1ct: its easier to find documents on a computer.
[12:09] <jasnlkngasdfg> ola
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> TRic2: maybe seashells in the future?
[12:09] <TRic2> the three seashells
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> if anyone gets my movie reference
[12:09] <c0nv1ct> yes! lol
[12:09] <Alonea> compilerwriter: as for getting your floppy to work, not sure. is it just not mounting it right or not mounting at all?
[12:09] <TRic2> i dont think so
[12:09] <compilerwriter> I would love to know how in the hell I managed to screw up my xdcmp by shutting down my machine and then opening it.
[12:09] <TRic2> the fith element
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> no, that was... damn i forgot the movie
[12:10] <patrick_> i get the Demolition Man reference. :-)
[12:10] <compilerwriter> Alonea from what ashex said the OS is not seeing the drive period.
[12:10] <c0nv1ct> yes! that one
[12:10] <TRic2> o sorry
[12:10] <TRic2> man i was off
[12:10] <Ashex|Work> Alonea, this is compilerwriter's output for fdisk -l with the floppy inserted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10525/
[12:10] <TRic2> i just got that movie in my head
[12:11] <eilker> what is PS/2 ?
[12:11] <TRic2> the port u connect ur mouse and keyboard 2
[12:11] <TRic2> or playstation 2
[12:11] <eilker> it says my mouse is ExplorerPS/2 ? is it correct ?
[12:11] <patrick_> Has anyone tried DosEmu or DosBox on Kubuntu?
[12:11] <Ashex|Work> I used to think that PS/2 was playstation divided by two
[12:11] <c0nv1ct> yeah, that works eilker
[12:11] <patrick_> I can't get either program working.
[12:12] <TRic2> no its ps^2
[12:12] <eilker> my mouse is freezing oftenly....
[12:12] <patrick_> I just did a fresh install of Feisty Fawn Herd 5 last night.
[12:12] <eilker> and it is not regular
[12:12] <Ashex|Work> !google | patrick_
[12:12] <ubotu> patrick_: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[12:12] <patrick_> really? cool


[02:07] <albinard> Tested your ISO: ubi-partman failed with exit code 10
[02:07] <albinard> Sorry, that's Unit193 ISO of this afternoon
[02:08] <Unit193> Hmm..Any logs?  vbox or hardware?
[02:09] <albinard> No logs, hardware same as all previous tests
[02:10] <albinard> but I tried to go back to your Cherokee site for the md5sum to check it, and it wouldn't connect
[02:10] <Unit193> https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ they're here now.
[02:12] <albinard> only the 17.10 shows up right now
[02:13] <Unit193> F5?
[02:13] <albinard> ???
[02:14] <Unit193> That is, might want to hard refresh the page, seems it's stuck in the cache.
[02:14] <Unit193> Page was updated for Bionic today.
[02:16] <albinard> Did it just now checking the sum now - it does check
[02:18] <Unit193> Well this is fun.  Amd64?
[02:19] <albinard> Yessir, the usual.  Wrote it to a USB, first try went as far as getting my locale correctly, then chrashed and claimed to have sent a report
[02:27] <albinard> FWIW, from the Live session I could see and mount (and unmount) the existing files in the original I installed from the 0420 ISO
[02:28] <Unit193> This is just lovely, taking a look too of course...  I smoke tested and things seemed more or less fine.
[02:28] <Unit193> Some quirks, but vbox tends to be a little troublesome.
[02:32] <albinard> Trying again - thought I might have left something mounted that didn't clear
[02:32] <albinard> Got to copying files anyway (cross your fingers)
[02:33] <Unit193> Fella in #xubuntu had issues as well, it's one of the permission issues I've seen before...
[02:33] <Unit193> It fails at the end.
[02:34] <albinard> Nope - at Installing system it crashes.  How do I file a bug report from that part?
[02:35] <Unit193> Have to install a browser such that one can complete the reporting process.
[02:38] <albinard> Ok, Firefox is downloading now
[02:38] <Unit193> Tailing the log while it installs, seeing if anything unusual is there.
[02:50] <GridCube> still getting this error when trying to run apt install xubuntu-core https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cfpw3v9dTf/
[02:54] <albinard> Dang - got a timeout error on Launchpad - this time of night web here is really slow.
[02:54] <albinard> I'll keep trying for a while
[03:00] <Unit193> I'm 1. Trying an install too.  2. Rebuilding amd64 only to see if there's a diff in the manifests, though really there shouldn't be.
[03:02] <albinard> I did a diff of the April 20 vs 26 - what should I look at?
[03:03] <Unit193> manifests?  I'd say just make sure no packages went missing and never came back.
[03:03] <albinard> That was the first April 26, I should say, the no/casper/vmlinuz
[03:09] <albinard> One odd thing: in the first (Apr 20) there are three entries each for linux-headers and linux images and linux-signed (ets)
[03:11] <albinard> But in the second, there are three for headers, two for images, and two for modules
[03:11] <albinard> Not that I know what any of that means, but there it is
[03:15] <Unit193> vbox seems to have hung itself, unrelatedly...Trying something in a build, doubt it'll fix anything as the buildsystem really hasn't changed except to fix that live booting issue, so *should* be something else..
[03:17] <FurretUber> Is the upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 available?
[03:18] <Unit193> I don't believe it is yet.
[03:19] <FurretUber> About the xubuntu-core image, was that isolinux issue corrected (it's searching for vmlinuz while the file is called vmlinuz.efi)?
[03:19] <Unit193> Yeah.
[03:33] <Unit193> I don't know why this cropped up now... :/
[03:34] <albinard> You have my sympthy, but my endurance is running out so I will do the same.  Maybe with a night's sleep I can be of help again.
[03:35] <Unit193> Thanks, good rest, mate.
[03:54] <flocculant> morning
[03:54] <flocculant> not finding our iso's
[04:09] <Unit193> They seemed to work, but seriously not looking like it now.  Time to pull 'em I guess.
[04:12] <flocculant> good - glad I'm not going nuts
[04:12] <Unit193> Well, mine.  Not the usual ones.
[04:12] <Unit193> https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ note added.
[04:12] <flocculant> oh
[04:13] <flocculant> I'm talking about our release
[04:13] <flocculant> can't find it
[04:13] <Unit193> Looks like only some mirrors have them so far.
[04:14] <flocculant> well I can't see it at ubuntu
[04:14] <Unit193> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/18.04/release/ was the link that had 'em.
[04:14] <flocculant> and that's empty
[04:15] <Unit193> ...Doesn't seem to be..?
[04:15] <flocculant> is here lol
[04:15] <Unit193> 0_o
[04:16] <flocculant> *shrug*
[04:16] <flocculant> too early for me to care much :)
[04:17] <Unit193> I'm a bit upset it's all broken for me.
[04:18] <flocculant> ok - so it's not just my browser - don't see them there in a vm either
[04:26] <flocculant> so what's broken for you?
[04:27] <flocculant> core not working?
[04:34] <Unit193> Yeah, Core installation foobers something awful..
[04:34] <Unit193> https://paste.ee/p/tVnrH#s=0&l=3901 /var/log/syslog.3.gz
[04:36] <flocculant> that doesn't look fun
[04:37] <flocculant> I assume it has the newer ubiquity
[04:38] <Unit193> Yes it does.
[04:42] <flocculant> ...
[04:42] <Unit193> Hm?
[04:43] <flocculant> xubuntu was dead on cdimage
[04:44] <flocculant> fixed now
[04:44] <flocculant> anyway - core - not sure what to say there
[04:44] <flocculant> best pull it for now I suppose
[04:44] <Unit193> Yeah understandable, it was fine too, but then it wasn't..That's really my problem to fix, lucky me.
[04:45] <flocculant> oh - caught up - see the note on core page
[04:46] <Unit193> Made it red and more obvious now.
[04:59] <flocculant> yup
[04:59] <flocculant> it does :)
[05:01] <pleia2> I popped in just long enough to do the social media things...
[05:01] <pleia2> almost forgot, congrats on the release everyone :)
[05:01] <flocculant> pleia2: I saw that - thanks
[05:01] <Unit193> Hey, thanks for that still.  I wouldn't have been able to. :3
[05:02] <flocculant> well I'd have done one of them :p
[05:02] <flocculant> unpinned the test post on facebook
[05:05] <pleia2> :o
[05:05] <pleia2> fb ui confuses brain, I didn't even notice a pinned post
[05:06] <pleia2> there's always so much junk, I just scroll until I find a box to type stuff in
[05:06] <pleia2> I am a brilliant technologist, I swear
[05:06] <Unit193> That's OK, I haven't used it since 2010, I might not even get that far. :P
[05:06] <pleia2> lol
[05:11] <flocculant> pleia2: yea - same - where is that box to type in :|
[05:12] <flocculant> only found the pin option recently - lucky I found it again to unpin ...
[05:12] <pleia2> hehe
[10:15] <bluesabre> Thanks flocculant, knome, and pleia2 for getting the release/announcements out :)
[10:15] <bluesabre> flocculant: any update on screen reader, or are we still at "we think it doesn't work"?
[10:16] <bluesabre> Spass: did you file a bug report for your menulibre issue?
[10:16] <bluesabre> ali1234: font sizes... since which previous release? there's been a few fontconfig updates since 16.04 that have made things weird
[10:17] <Spass> bluesabre, I will do that from my "Xubuntu for testing purposes" fresh install, that I'm about to do soon
[10:17] <Spass> I can also help you in reproducing it
[10:17] <bluesabre> Spass: great, thanks :)
[10:17] <ali1234> bluesabre: since 16.04
[10:18] <Spass> btw, 25GB for testing installation should be fine, right?
[10:18] <Unit193> fontconfig had been carrying a patch for the longest time, made fonts seem slightly smoother or whatnot, dropped last cycle.
[10:18] <bluesabre> Spass: definitely
[10:19] <Spass> ok
[10:20] <Spass> doing it right now, I'll probably ask you later about other stuff (additional PPAs etc)
[10:20] <bluesabre> very nice
[10:21] <bluesabre> I work today, so probably not going to respond til later/this weekend
[10:22] <Spass> cool, I know where to find some stuff about that on Launchpad, so I should be fine
[10:25] <ali1234> http://i.imgur.com/XTWh6KB.png :(
[10:27] <ali1234> oops wrong image :)
[10:28] <ali1234> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/367592323/exo.png
[10:29] <Unit193> ..Well then.
[10:30] <bluesabre> Embracing the hi-dpi future early with that one
[10:31] <ali1234> is that config panel gtk3?
[10:32] <ali1234> gnome-panel had similar problems when it was ported to gtk3 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/107130168/Screenshot%20from%202012-06-08%2006%3A44%3A22.png
[10:33] <bluesabre> ali1234: yes it is
[10:35] <bluesabre> If I recall, Firefox doesn't provide a lower res icon so gtk is probably being dumb and not scaling to the requested size
[10:35] <bluesabre> Report that one somewhere (bz preferred) if you don't mind
[10:35] <ali1234> already reported on lp but i will make an upstream bug too
[10:35] <bluesabre> Cool, thanks
[10:40] <ali1234> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14362
[10:41] <ali1234> you know, it wouldn't be the worst thing ever to show really big icons in that dialog
[10:41] <ali1234> or not really big... but bigger than they normally are now
[11:32] <krytarik> Ugh, from #x earlier: "The 18.04 release, codenamed Xenial Xerus,..." on https://xubuntu.org/download#lts
[11:37] <bluesabre> lol
[11:38] <bluesabre> krytarik: fixed
[11:38] <krytarik> Cool, thanks!
[12:50] <flocculant> bluesabre: re screen reader - not got it to work - that said did some lubuntu last night - couldn't there either
[12:52] <Spass> ok, my Xubuntu install strictly for testing is standing and it's ready to be blown, which PPAs from here I must add? https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev
[12:54] <Spass> also, do you know any tool to quickly make and upload online a desktop screenshot? preferably with an option to crop them before
[12:55] <flocculant> qa experimental, daily builds
[12:55] <flocculant> and also https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[13:19] <Spass> just noticed, new Greybird finally has thin 1px separator line in Thunar between sidebar, so much better!
[13:22] <Spass> oh, I think I should go to #shimmer for that
[13:22] <flocculant> Spass: here has most of the shimmer team
[13:23] <flocculant> I think :p
[13:26] <Spass> can someone confirm that the text on the buttons in gnome-language-selector is not centered vertically?
[13:26] <Spass> just noteced that
[13:26] <Spass> *noticed
[13:31] <knome> bluesabre, thanks for the website fix, i knew i forgot something (fortunately not a biggie)
[13:41] <Spass> there seems to be an issue with mouse scroll on icon set list in Appearance, but only if I access it through xfce4-settings-manager
[13:42] <Spass> it works when I open xfce4-appearance-settings directly
[14:46] <flocculant> Spass: yea - and reported somewhere
[14:49] <flocculant> gtk3 ish issue I think
[14:54] <flocculant> knome: I didn't look there either
[14:56] <flocculant> bluesabre ochosi knome - "To prevent this membership from expiring, you should contact the
[14:56] <flocculant> team's administrator, Xubuntu Council (xubuntu-council)."
[14:56] <flocculant> release team for me - unless you've got another fool willing to take over from me :)
[16:18] <Spass> I've uploaded my first ever YouTube video, and it's about Xubuntu 18.04 issues :P
[16:18] <Spass> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY4ZuxsPifw
[16:18] <Spass> it's not public
[16:19] <Spass> you can see three issues there, inconsistent panel icons, blinking Whisker menu, and some weird shadow visible on the app list
[17:52] <Norden> Hello! This may already have been reported somewhere, but the section on version numbering in the documentation for 18.04 still says that 16.04 is the latest LTS version.
[17:55] <Norden> Specifically this section here: https://docs.xubuntu.org/1804/user/C/what-is-xubuntu.html#version-numbering
[17:56] <Spass> I think that the best solution is to remove "The latest Long Term Support (LTS) version is 16.04, codenamed Xenial Xerus." completely, not just changing it, to avoid this issue in the future
[17:59] <krytarik> Yes, hidden easter eggs indeed.. :P
[18:15] <Norden> Oh, also, the contribution page for documentation on the website says to look for the documentation sources in a "desktop-guide/C/" directory, which, as far as I can tell, doesn't actually exist in the source branch.
[18:16] <krytarik> Yep, also true - that was changed a while ago.
[18:26] <krytarik> (That would be: https://xubuntu.org/contribute/documentation/)
[18:58] <amerigena> What are the outstanding issues that are blocking installs with the 18.04 Core ISOs? Does anyone know yet?
[19:18] <knome> flocculant, i'd say let's renew/add members to that team once the new council is set up :)
[19:45] <flocculant> knome: whatever
[19:45] <flocculant> not sure what the council's got to do with that tbh
[19:45] <flocculant> unless it wants to look after testing of course :)
[21:19] <flocculant> bluesabre: re screen reader, so for flavours it worked on - boot image, at the menu choose screen reader from F5 menu - boot to live desktop, (possibly need to Alt+Super+S) and it works
[21:20] <flocculant> with us you get the desktop with no screen reader
[22:52] <bluesabre> flocculant: huh
[22:52] <bluesabre> any pattern to the working desktops... or is it just us?
[23:11] <Unit193> GridCube: You will likely continue to get that too, since you picked something up from a PPA.  You could disable the PPAs and then go through `apt list | grep ed,loc`, downgrading everything to the version from the archives to recover.
[23:58] <GridCube> i did?
[23:59] <Unit193> Based on version numbers, yeah.


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 Hello, does someone here uses kubuntu with hybrid nvidia? it works fine? the video changes automatcally to GPU like in Ubuntu Gnome?
 Hello, does someone here uses kubuntu with hybrid nvidia? it works fine? the video changes automatcally to GPU as in Ubuntu Gnome?
[10:57] <felipe> Hi
[17:51] <cojack> Yo, any k8s master can some1 explains me what I'm doing wrong with this schema? When I deploy another application within the same schema, it creates another load balancer on aws, can't understand why https://pastebin.com/MCWp9WY0
[19:23] <user|67> IS it possible to manage power in Kubuntu using simple terms like high power, balanced, power saver?
[19:26] <user|67> I'm using Kubuntu 21.04
[19:45] <user|40> Is there a Kubuntu or Ubuntu LITE for chrome books?
[19:46] <cojack> user|40: try lubuntu
[19:46] <cojack> or Xubuntu
[19:46] <user|40> Thanks will do
[20:50] <user|40> How can I burn an ISO Image to a thumb drive or an SD Card?  What software allows is?
[20:53] <genii> If the image is a hybrid image, such as all the *buntu install ISOs then it can be directly imaged using dd
[20:55] <user|40> It is an Lubuntu Image and what is dd
[20:57] <user|40> OH SHIT....Drag and Drop I am getting too old I think and can't think
[20:57] <user|40> Thanks
[20:58] <genii> dd is a command line utility. So for instance if your thumb drive is being seen as /dev/sde   and the ISO image name is lubuntu.iso  ... you would in Konsole cd into the directory where the image is and issue: sudo dd if=lubuntu.iso of=/dev/sde status=progress
[20:59] <genii> dd is generally considered to derive it's name as a shortform of "diskdupe"
[21:04] <user|40> Thanks for the help will give it a shot


[10:00] <gotwig> Morning
[10:02] <Destine> elky, hey
[10:02] <elky> hi Destine
[10:02] <gotwig> is now the Ubuntu Member selection :X ?
[10:02] <elky> we have lifeless too, so we just need 1 more
[10:02] <elky> gotwig, yes, you're at the bottom of the list, so you'll have to be patient
[10:02] <elky> freeflying?
[10:03] <Destine> ejat?
[10:05] <Destine> elky, are we going to meet a quorum?
[10:06] <lifeless> o/
[10:06] <lifeless> czajkowski: yo
[10:06] <elky> Destine, maybe if someone from another board is
[10:07] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:07] <lifeless> czajkowski: can you help us meet quorum ?
[10:07] <czajkowski> lifeless: I can indeed
[10:07] <lifeless> asiapac rmb meeting that is
[10:07] <czajkowski> as long as I dont have to chair :)
[10:08]  * lifeless tags elky
[10:08] <Destine> czajkowski, thanks.
[10:08] <Destine> we meet a quorum now~ happy~
[10:09] <elky> What do I need to type to start the meeting and have all the votes right?
[10:09] <elky> I dont know how to drive this bot :(
[10:09] <Destine> elky, let me.
[10:09] <elky> Destine, okies :)
[10:09] <kidsodateless> hello
[10:09] <Destine> #startmeeting ubuntu member
[10:09] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 10 10:09:41 2012 UTC.  The chair is Destine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[10:09] <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired
[10:10] <Destine> #chair Destine elky lifeless
[10:10] <meetingology> Current chairs: Destine elky lifeless
[10:10]  * gotwig finds that very complicated
[10:10] <Destine> anybody who is here for the application?
[10:11] <jaddi27> I am here, 4th on the list
[10:11] <lifeless> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania
[10:11] <gotwig> I am, the last on the list
[10:11] <kidsodateless> present
[10:11] <Destine> lifeless, thanks.
[10:11] <lifeless> bone* isn't online
[10:11] <lifeless> should remove them I think
[10:11] <lifeless> well, not in this channel
[10:11] <Destine> #meetingtopic jaddi27's application
[10:12] <lifeless> oscalation isn't in th echannel either
[10:12] <Destine> jaddi27, please briefly introduce yourself.
[10:12] <lifeless> not bodman456
[10:13] <elky> lifeless, if you're editing, aiui oscalation was refused last time
[10:13] <lifeless> elky: I'm not
[10:13] <lifeless> jaddi27: hello ?
[10:13] <jaddi27> Hi, I am Joel Addison. I have been a member of the Ubuntu Australia LoCo for the past 4-5 years, and have been mostly active in translations and the Loco
[10:13] <Destine> jaddi27, hey?
[10:14] <czajkowski> jaddi27: hi there thanks for coming .
[10:15] <jaddi27> czajkowski, Happy to be here
[10:15] <czajkowski> jaddi27: so how did you get involved in ubuntu and your loco ?
[10:15] <jaddi27> I started using ubuntu in 2006 when I was trying to find other operating systems to use
[10:16] <jaddi27> I found out about the loco shortly after that, mainly through the team mailing list
[10:17] <jaddi27> In the last year or two, I have got more involved in the loco, and have started to chair the monthly meetings along with another member of the team
[10:18] <Destine> jaddi27, it seems that you did global jams. can you please briefly talk about them?
[10:19] <jaddi27> I ran two jams for the Precise cycle this year. The first was a wiki jam, where I aimed to clean up the Wiki section for Ubuntu-AU. We got a fair bit fixed up, so the wiki is easier to use for new people
[10:20] <lifeless> whats involved in running a jam ?
[10:20] <jaddi27> The second jam was a localisation jam, which had the aim of discussing the various aspects of ubuntu that could be localised for Australia to be released as a custom distro
[10:21] <jaddi27> I ran my Jams online in the IRC channel for ubuntu-au, but I see them as a good way for people interested in ubuntu to get involved with their communities and other aspects
[10:22] <jaddi27> They are especially good for encouraging people who are not interested in coding to get involved with Ubuntu
[10:22] <Destine> jaddi27, good for you.
[10:22] <lifeless> whats involved in running a jam ?
[10:24] <jaddi27> To run a jam, I advertised it in various ways, including through the IRC meetings, the mailing list, and the loco.ubuntu.com section for Ubuntu-AU. On the occasion of the event, I started a meeting in the IRC channel and lead discussions for the event
[10:25] <jaddi27> For example, with the Wiki Jam, I was mainly directing people as to what sections of the wiki could be improved and listening to other people's suggestions as to what could be improved
[10:25] <Destine> jaddi27, thank you. I am ready to vote.
[10:25] <Destine> #voters Destine elky lifeless czajkowski
[10:25] <meetingology> Current voters: Destine czajkowski elky lifeless
[10:25] <jaddi27> Destine, Ok. Thanks
[10:26] <Destine> #vote jaddi27's application
[10:26] <meetingology> Please vote on: jaddi27's application
[10:26] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[10:26] <elky> +1
[10:26] <meetingology> +1 received from elky
[10:26] <Destine> +1
[10:26] <meetingology> +1 received from Destine
[10:26] <lifeless> +0
[10:26] <meetingology> +0 received from lifeless
[10:26] <czajkowski> +0
[10:26] <meetingology> +0 received from czajkowski
[10:27] <Destine> #endvote
[10:27] <meetingology> Voting ended on: jaddi27's application
[10:27] <meetingology> Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:2
[10:27] <meetingology> Motion carried
[10:28] <Destine> jaddi27, congrats!
[10:28] <jaddi27> Destine, Thanks a lot
[10:28]  * benonsoftware high fives jaddi27
[10:29] <kidsodateless> congrats!
[10:29] <czajkowski> quorum is 4  and you need half plus 1 to pass
[10:30] <czajkowski> so that would be 3 +1s
[10:30] <czajkowski> the bot doesnt seem to take this into account
[10:30] <czajkowski> AlanBell: you may want to look into the bot and voting
[10:30] <jaddi27> ah, I was wondering about that
[10:31] <czajkowski> jaddi27: sorry at present you haven't been successful
[10:31] <jaddi27> Ok, that is alright
[10:31] <czajkowski> for me I'd love ot see more testimionals of your work
[10:31] <Destine> kidsodateless, hey?
[10:32] <Destine> #meetingtopic kidsodateless's application
[10:32] <kidsodateless> i'm here
[10:32] <Destine> kidsodateless, please briefly introduce yourself to us.
[10:32] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kidsodateless
[10:33] <kidsodateless> Hello! I'm Efren Montales Jr, 23 years old
[10:33] <kidsodateless> a sysadmin, wayfarer, Free Software Advocate, Ubuntu and Firefox Rocker
[10:33] <kidsodateless> I'm part of Ubuntu Team Philippines
[10:33] <kidsodateless> My contributions include advocacy and iso testing
[10:33] <kidsodateless> I started advocating Ubuntu since 2009, i organized SFD, release party and had some free talks from different places in the country,
[10:34] <lifeless> win 84
[10:34] <lifeless> bah sorry
[10:34] <kidsodateless>  Aside from that i'm also an active iso tester since 11.04 development releases.
[10:35] <kidsodateless> you can check some pictures link on my wiki
[10:35] <czajkowski> kidsodateless: how would being an Ubuntu member help you in the future?
[10:37] <AlanBell> czajkowski: #votesrequired 3
[10:37] <Destine> AlanBell, thanks!
[10:37] <kidsodateless> that would a great opportunity for in my advocacy in the near futre
[10:37] <lifeless> #votesrequired 3
[10:37] <meetingology> votes now need 3 to be passed
[10:37] <czajkowski> AlanBell: thanks
[10:37] <czajkowski> ok no more questions from me
[10:38] <Destine> #vote kidsodateless's application
[10:38] <meetingology> Please vote on: kidsodateless's application
[10:38] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[10:38] <lifeless> +1
[10:38] <meetingology> +1 received from lifeless
[10:38] <elky> +1
[10:38] <meetingology> +1 received from elky
[10:39] <czajkowski> +1
[10:39] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[10:39] <Destine> +1
[10:39] <meetingology> +1 received from Destine
[10:39] <Destine> #endvote
[10:39] <meetingology> Voting ended on: kidsodateless's application
[10:39] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[10:39] <meetingology> Motion carried
[10:39] <czajkowski> well done and welcome aboard
[10:39] <kidsodateless> thank you all
[10:39] <FAITH> Congratulations! ^^
[10:39] <Destine> kidsodateless, congrats.
[10:40] <Destine> gotwig, you here?
[10:40] <gotwig> Oh, yes :-)
[10:40] <Ted_> congrats kidsodateless
[10:40] <Destine> #meetingtopic gotwig's application
[10:41] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Eduard%20Gotwig
[10:42] <czajkowski> gotwig: ohh the cooking lens!
[10:42] <elky> gotwig, hello?
[10:42] <czajkowski> very nice indeed!
[10:42] <gotwig> czajkowski: you know it :-)
[10:42] <gotwig> ok, ready :D ?
[10:42] <czajkowski> I do indeed, I've seen popey mention it a lot
[10:42] <elky> Introduce yourself please
[10:42] <gotwig> I am Eduard Gotwig, a 17 years old student that studies computer science in Germany. I am member of the LUG Bergisch Gladbach ( thats near Cologne)  and try to bring Ubuntu and free software in general forward.
[10:44] <Destine> gotwig, I am not quite familiar with cooking lens. could you please introduce that to me?
[10:45] <gotwig> Destine: ok, that is a lens (software for ubuntu unity) with that you can search right from the dash for recipes from your local computer, and from the internet
[10:45] <gotwig> Gourmet Recipe Manager, and recipefy.com support
[10:45] <Destine> gotwig, i see.
[10:46] <Destine> #vote gotwig's appication
[10:46] <meetingology> Please vote on: gotwig's appication
[10:46] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[10:46] <czajkowski> +1
[10:46] <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski
[10:46] <Destine> +1
[10:46] <meetingology> +1 received from Destine
[10:47] <elky> +1
[10:47] <meetingology> +1 received from elky
[10:48] <lifeless> +1
[10:48] <meetingology> +1 received from lifeless
[10:48] <Destine> #endvote
[10:48] <meetingology> Voting ended on: gotwig's appication
[10:48] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[10:48] <meetingology> Motion carried
[10:48] <gotwig> That's it :-) ?
[10:48] <czajkowski> gotwig: well done and thank you for your contributions
[10:48] <gotwig> czajkowski: look for them in the future ;) ^^
[10:48] <Destine> gotwig, i am going to try that lens.
[10:49] <gotwig> czajkowski: I am happy that I have "fans" :-)
[10:49] <Destine> anybody else who is here for application?
[10:50] <gotwig> Destine: alright. Just add the unity scope packagers PPA, install the package unity-lens-cooking , restart your pc, or unity (It's a daemon you know) and search for recips. Language support is one of the newest features
[10:50] <gotwig> "recipes" :X
[10:50] <elky> Destine, the ones on the list aren't here it seems
[10:50] <Destine> elky, think so too.
[10:50] <elky> Destine, we don't need anyone not on the list :P
[10:50] <gotwig> Destine: see the old OMG! Ubuntu! article for more details :-)
[10:50] <Destine> so we end the meeting.
[10:50] <Destine> #endmeeting
[10:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 10 10:50:59 2012 UTC.
[10:51] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-10-10.09.moin.txt
[10:51] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-10-10.09.html
[10:51] <gotwig> thank you
[10:51] <czajkowski> Destine: well done
[10:51] <Destine> czajkowski, thank you!
[10:52] <Destine> thanks, everybody.
[10:52] <gotwig> ok, so what now :D ?
[10:54] <Destine> gotwig, have some fun.
[10:54] <popey> gotwig: congratulations
[10:54] <lifeless> czajkowski: tanks
[10:55] <gotwig> where are tanks :O ?
[10:55] <czajkowski> in my inbox :/
[10:55] <iaw> congrats gotwig!
[10:56] <kidsodateless> congrats, gotwig
[10:56] <gotwig> kidsodateless: thank you. Congrats to you, too over the ocean :-)
[10:57] <gotwig> iaw: thank you
[10:57]  * gotwig wants to shake some hands, lol
[12:22] <kaustubhp> Hello any idea of when the interview is going to be held THNX :)
[12:23] <kaustubhp> any one online ?
[16:00] <zul> good morning
[16:00] <arosales> Hello
[16:01] <three18ti> hello.
[16:01] <m_3> o/
[16:01] <utlemming> good GMT afternoon
[16:01] <hallyn> hey
[16:02] <arosales> Is smoser chair'ing today?
[16:02] <smoser> i can chair.
[16:02] <arosales> not sure if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting is up to date
[16:02] <smoser> probably is.
[16:02] <koolhead11> hi
[16:03] <lynxman> o/
[16:03] <smoser> #startmeeting
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[16:03] <smoser> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:03] <smoser> SpamapS invite aquette to next server team meeting to discuss servercloud-p-cloud-power-management
[16:04] <smoser> * SpamapS invite aquette to next server team meeting to discuss servercloud-p-cloud-power-management
[16:04] <smoser> SpamapS, ^ ?
[16:04] <SpamapS> ugh sorry I forgot that one
[16:04] <adam_g> o/
[16:04] <SpamapS> Its a bit late
[16:04] <SpamapS> the blueprint though, should just be postponed to Q
[16:04] <smoser> well, it was a bit late lat week too.. :). ok.
[16:04] <smoser> [ACTION] SpamapS to postpone servercloud-p-cloud-power-management to Q
[16:04] <meetingology> ACTION: SpamapS to postpone servercloud-p-cloud-power-management to Q
[16:05] <smoser> * jamespage to raise bugs for FTBFS for server related packages from latest rebuild test.
[16:05] <jamespage> not required...
[16:05] <jamespage> all fixed before I had a chance :-)
[16:05] <smoser> [TOPIC] Precise Development
[16:05] <smoser> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:06] <smoser> bug 960276
[16:06] <smoser> (am i just supposed to walk this list ?)
[16:06] <zul> yes
[16:06] <zul> thats one is fixed, patch backed out basicaly
[16:06] <smoser> zul is that one fix-released now ?
[16:06] <smoser> is it released ?
[16:07] <zul> yes
[16:07] <smoser> please mark as such.
[16:07] <smoser> bug 924739
[16:07] <smoser> adam_g, ^
[16:07] <adam_g> smoser: still pending but me and jamespage have started discussing a way forward, should have something this week
[16:07] <adam_g> jamespage: what do you think?
[16:08] <smoser> bug 928990
[16:08] <smoser> utlemming, ^ did you at all look ?
[16:09] <utlemming> smoser: yes, I started, but didn't get anywhere
[16:10] <smoser> do you think there is any chance of looking that like today?
[16:10] <smoser> bug 930916
[16:10] <smoser> SpamapS,
[16:10] <smoser> ^
[16:10] <utlemming> smoser: yes, I'm blocked on other things, so I'll dig on that today
[16:11] <smoser> bug 966115
[16:11] <SpamapS> smoser: I suppose we should get that fixed this week ;)
[16:11] <smoser> woot.
[16:11] <smoser> adam_g, ^
[16:11] <adam_g> smoser: will go out fix releaesd with the final nova upload this week
[16:11] <smoser> good.
[16:11] <smoser> bug 828789
[16:12] <hallyn> uh, somebody marked that in progress, don't know why.
[16:12] <hallyn> in any case spice is tech preview and therefor wishlist/low prio, if there are bugs
[16:12] <hallyn> (concerns about the debian packaging going forward, etc)
[16:13] <smoser> hallyn, then you can/should un-tag that with release
[16:13] <smoser> er... i guess maybe you cant.
[16:13] <smoser> maybe we need one, dave walker to do so
[16:13] <smoser> bug 880339
[16:14] <smoser> SpamapS, ^ is that you?
[16:14] <hallyn> smoser: actually i'm going to mark it fix released.  i see now why it was marked in progress, and it was wrong
[16:14] <smoser> hallyn, good deal.
[16:14] <SpamapS> smoser: its on the user who reported it, who has not responded.
[16:14] <smoser> bug 907197
[16:15] <smoser> zul, ^
[16:15] <zul> that shouldnt be on the list anymore i think still no response
[16:15] <zul> and havent been able to reproduce it
[16:15] <smoser> have you injected ip address into ubuntu images using lxc ?
[16:15] <smoser> successfully then ?
[16:16] <smoser> zul,
[16:16] <smoser> bug bug 916065
[16:16] <zul> smoser: yep i have
[16:17] <smoser> jamespage, was that one you ^
[16:17] <smoser> just pulled your nanme from a hat.
[16:17] <smoser> bug bug 967430
[16:17] <jamespage> smoser: I was mean't to talk to SpamapS about that one but have not
[16:17] <smoser> roaksoax, ^
[16:17] <SpamapS> that PHP bug looks straight forward enough.
[16:18] <roaksoax> smoser: i'll take care of it this week
[16:18] <smoser> roaksoax, k.
[16:18] <smoser> ok. then we're moving on
[16:18] <smoser>  * https://launchpad.net/bugs/967430
[16:18] <smoser> that looks much better.
[16:18] <smoser> but still plenty left
[16:19] <smoser> is there anything specific to do here ?
[16:20] <smoser> ok. well, unless arosales or Daviey want to tell me otherwise, i think we'll just say "please take a llook at those and make sure they're in the proper state".
[16:20] <smoser> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:20] <m_3> devopsdays last week... panel and then two talks.  The panel w/ puppet and chef really couldn't've gone any better... it was cool.  My ignite talk sucked, but then the longer open-session QnA went pretty well
[16:20] <arosales> m_3 I wouldn't say sucked
[16:20] <SpamapS> m_3: ignite.. thats balls. :)
[16:21] <smoser> ODS is next week. http://summit.openstack.org/
[16:21] <m_3> by the end, I'm pretty sure peeps were tired of hearing about all the cool shit you can do with juju
[16:21] <m_3> :)
[16:21] <SpamapS> Percona Live (MySQL ecosystem) conference tomorrow I will be there http://www.percona.com/live/mysql-conference-2012/
[16:21] <arosales> m_3 you had pretty good participation afterwards
[16:22] <koolhead11> i participated in ubuntucloudday india, met nijaba and we had awesome openstack demo :)
[16:22] <m_3> koolhead11: awesome man
[16:22] <smoser> ok. moving on.
[16:22] <smoser> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:23] <smoser> hggdh, ^ anything ?
[16:23] <smoser> hggdh, your cobbler bug fix just got into oneiric-updates.
[16:23] <smoser> well, anyone have any general QA like disucssion ?
[16:24] <smoser> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:24] <smb> Bug 974982 recently got introduced by an upstream stable change applied to precise.  Upstream had been trying to prevent it getting applied or have it reverted but it has not happened there, yet. ogasawara took the revert and uploaded today (or will do so). So for release that should be resolved.
[16:24] <smb> Apart from that nothing big since last week. (I think)
[16:25] <smb> ..
[16:25] <smoser> kernels... i dont believe i have much here.
[16:25] <smoser> smoser, do you remember precise kernel bug on cc1.4xlarge ?
[16:25] <smoser> i was just looking
[16:26] <smoser> smoser, do you remember ?
[16:26] <SpamapS> smb?
[16:26] <SpamapS> smoser: quit talking to yourself and chair the meeting ;)
[16:26] <smb> Not reall y waht it was again
[16:26] <smoser> dagum you tab completion
[16:26] <smoser> i remember it was a crash or stuck cpu and we saw it in both precise and oneiric
[16:27] <smb> Or was that for hangs on lucid...?
[16:28] <smb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/944923
[16:28] <smoser> yeah.
[16:28] <smb> I think that behaves the same way back a longer time
[16:28] <smb> And I think I could not do something locally to make it happen
[16:28] <smoser> ok.
[16:28] <smoser> moving on then
[16:29] <smoser> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:29] <rbasak> Nothing to report. Any questions for me?
[16:29] <hallyn> rbasak: did you run the lxc testsuite in last 2 weeks?
[16:29] <rbasak> hallyn: no
[16:29] <hallyn> or 3? :)
[16:29] <hallyn> would you mind?
[16:29] <rbasak> hallyn: sure, I'll do it now
[16:29] <hallyn> thanks
[16:30] <rbasak> hallyn: https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+junk/lxc-test still or has it moved?
[16:30] <smoser> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[16:30] <smoser> anyone got anything here?
[16:30] <Daviey> nein
[16:30] <arosales> smoser, do you mind if we go over the essential and high blueprints that are a bit behind?
[16:30] <hallyn> rbasak: still there, thx (i promise i'll convert to python-unit in qrt soon :)
[16:30] <rbasak> hallyn: ok, no problem
[16:30] <smoser> arosales, sure.
[16:31] <arosales> looking here
[16:31] <arosales> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html
[16:31] <SpamapS> Just some heads up.. Juju should be landing yet another upload this week with some security improvements and "subordinates"
[16:31] <arosales> re juju: \o/
[16:31] <SpamapS> Also I'm hoping CEPH is approved for main this week, and we can actually get a FFE for kvm to link against librbd/librados
[16:31] <arosales> and CEPH too, nice :-)
[16:32] <arosales> Blueprints
[16:32] <hallyn> SpamapS: color me surprised
[16:32] <SpamapS> hallyn: I know
[16:32] <arosales> rbasak: servercloud-p-arm-service-orchestration
[16:32] <SpamapS> hallyn: I've been testing, keep forgetting to loop you in ;)
[16:32] <arosales> able to make progress on this one with MAAs?
[16:33] <arosales> SpamapS: servercloud-p-automated-boot-testing probably got bumped with some of the other work
[16:33] <hallyn> SpamapS: please include http://people.canonical.com/~serge/{qemu,libvirt}-rbd.debdiff in your testing
[16:33] <arosales> zul: does servercloud-p-openstack need some updates with essex final being  commited?
[16:34] <zul> arosales: probably yes
[16:34] <hallyn> (I will likely ask to push those this afternoon, requested by Ceph folks)
[16:34] <arosales> zul, thanks
[16:34] <rbasak> arosales: I have been looking at MAAS with respect to ARM, but I don't think it's realistic to have this done for P.
[16:34] <arosales> adam_g: are you able to make progress on  servercloud-p-openstack-charms now?
[16:35] <rbasak> arosales: solely because we aren't at a stage where it's possible to make an estimate yet
[16:35] <arosales> rbasak: do you want to comment and postpone the appropriate tasks @ servercloud-p-arm-service-orchestration?
[16:35] <rbasak> arosales: OK, will do
[16:35] <arosales> rbasak: thanks
[16:36] <arosales> jamespage: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-hdp-hadoop also progressing ok?
[16:37] <arosales> adam_g: looks like this one will be complete at uds: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-testing
[16:38] <arosales> smoser: those cover the high and essential
[16:38] <smoser> k.
[16:38] <smoser> sorry for jumping the gun on you earlier.
[16:38] <smoser> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[16:38] <smoser> oops
[16:38] <arosales> smoser: no worries, I was slow on the draw
[16:38] <smoser> i thin kwe're done now
[16:38] <smoser> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time
[16:38] <zul> swift 1.4.8 is waiting to be accepted
[16:39] <smoser> next meeting
[16:39] <smoser>  Tuesday 2012-04-17 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[16:39] <smoser> i suspect many members to be Openstack'ing at that time.
[16:40] <smoser> #endmeeting
[16:40] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 10 16:40:05 2012 UTC.
[16:40] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-10-16.03.moin.txt
[16:40] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-10-16.03.html
[16:40] <arosales> Ursinha: looks like you are next on the list to chair, does that work for your schedule?
[16:40] <Daviey> super
[16:40] <arosales> smoser: thanks for chairing
[16:40] <Ursinha> arosales, sure
[16:40] <arosales> Ursinha: cool, thanks.
[16:54] <three18ti> crap, had to work during the open discussion...  Maybe if someone is still on, how is MaaS different than another BM service like Cobbler?
[16:58] <lynxman> three18ti: MaaS has some extra features like full EC2 api support, a nice web ui to deploy machines on demand and it's tightly integrated with juju
[16:59] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[16:59] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 10 16:59:30 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:59] <jsalisbury> ##
[16:59] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[16:59] <jsalisbury> ##
[16:59] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[16:59] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise
[16:59] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[16:59] <jsalisbury> #
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[16:59] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[16:59] <apw> o/
[16:59] <herton> o/
[16:59] <ogasawara> o/
[16:59] <ppisati> o/
[16:59] <cking> o/
[16:59] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <ppisati> nothing new to report this week
[17:00] <ppisati> ..
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:00] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.04.html
[17:00] <ogasawara> || apw       || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review         || 1 work item ||
[17:00] <ogasawara> || ogasawara || hardware-p-kernel-config-review        || 1 work item ||
[17:00] <ogasawara> ||           || hardware-p-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item ||
[17:00] <ogasawara> apw and I are aware of our work items, we'll get them closed before final.
[17:00] <ogasawara> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> The Precise kernel is currently frozen and Final Freeze is this Thurs
[17:01] <ogasawara> Apr 12.  We have coordinated one additional upload scheduled for today
[17:01] <ogasawara> (likely to occur after this meeting).  At this point in time, all
[17:01] <ogasawara> patches are subject to our SRU policy and uploads will only be granted
[17:01] <ogasawara> at the discretion of the release team.
[17:01] <ogasawara> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/StablePatchFormat
[17:01] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Apr 12 - Final Freeze (~2 days)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Apr 19 - Release Candidate (~1 week)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Apr 26 - Final Release (~2 weeks)
[17:01] <ogasawara> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:01] <apw> Currently we have 72 CVEs on our radar, with no new CVEs added this week.
[17:01] <apw> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:01] <apw>
[17:01] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:01] <apw>
[17:01] <apw> Overall the backlog has decresed very slightly this week:
[17:01] <apw>
[17:01] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:01] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:01] <apw>
[17:01] <apw> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)
[17:02] <bjf> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (Apr. 10):
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> Oneiric has been somewhat problematic. We ran into a couple of very bad regressions
[17:02] <bjf> that were pretty quickly identified. Our policy is to "revert aggressively" however
[17:02] <bjf> our number one rule is to "Use our best judgement and do the right thing". In this
[17:02] <bjf> case we are also running into the end of the Precise development cycle when testing
[17:02] <bjf> resources (human) are scarce. After discussing this with a number of people we have
[17:02] <bjf> decided to fix these known regressions and also pull in the stable release that was
[17:02] <bjf> sitting on master-next and crank that out. The cycle will be extended with regression
[17:02] <bjf> testing happening the week of May 1st.
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf>  * Hardy    - 2.6.24-31.101 - Nothing this cycle
[17:02] <bjf>  * Lucid    - 2.6.32-41.88  - Verification; 52 commits in total.
[17:02] <bjf>  * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.68  - Ready for -updates; NOTE: THIS IS THE LAST MAVERICK KERNEL!
[17:02] <bjf>  * Natty    - 2.6.38-14.58  - Ready for -updates; 12 commits in total. Mostly eCryptfs and KVM.
[17:02] <bjf>  * Oneiric  - 3.0.0-19.32   - Verification;
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:02] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:02] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:02] <bjf>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock
[17:02] <bjf>
[17:02] <bjf> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:03] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:03] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 10 17:03:40 2012 UTC.
[17:03] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-10-16.59.moin.txt
[17:03] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-10-16.59.html
[23:02] <bodhi_zazen> o/
[23:03] <bodhi_zazen> Anyone here for the BT meeting ?
[23:21] <benonsoftware> bodhi_zazen: Yeah, isn't it in 40 minutes though?
[23:23] <bodhi_zazen> IDK for sure
[23:23] <bodhi_zazen> I did not call the meeting
[23:23] <benonsoftware> According to my time its in 40 minutes
[23:58] <benonsoftware> Haha, now we get the mass joins :P
[23:58] <JoseeAntonioR> Just one more min, and we'll see 10+ joins
[23:59] <astraljava> That's the reason I hide them from my client, otherwise it's all I'd see on this 30-line terminal window. :)
[23:59]  * MobileDruif will be lurking, practically falling asleep as it is


[01:19] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Is the MNT Reform the Most Open Source Laptop, Ever?! @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=161225 (by Joey Sneddon)
[06:04] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Manjaro Linux Laptop with 10th Gen Intel Chips to Launch as “Dell XPS 13 Killer” @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/manjaro-linux-laptop-with-10th-gen-intel-chips-to-launch-as-dell-xps-13-killer-528909.shtml (by Bogdan Popa, Microsoft News Editor)
[06:52] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: AMD Zen 3 Microcode Spotted in the Linux Kernel @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/amd-zen-3-microcode-spotted-in-the-linux-kernel-528913.shtml (by Bogdan Popa, Microsoft News Editor)
[16:28] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Ubuntu 20.04 Removes the Amazon Web App You Never Use @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=161350 (by Joey Sneddon)
[20:03] <Bashing-om> UWN: Pulling "WIP" - time to push: 21:00 GMT.
[21:01] <Bashing-om> UWN: M/L is away - doing the forum post next.
[21:05] <Bashing-om> UWN: Forum post done - no issues seen. Doing the re-directs next.
[21:17] <Bashing-om> UWN: My part all done - pending is the social media postings :D
[21:59] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: GParted 1.1 Open-Source Partition Editor Is Out with Various Enhancements, Fixes @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/gparted-1-1-open-source-partition-editor-is-out-with-various-enhancements-fixes-528919.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[22:36] <guiverc> okay to push uwn 614 to fridge Bashing-om
[22:40] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yup ! No issues seen :D wildman is away at work presently.
[22:40] <guiverc> Thanks - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/01/20/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-614/
[22:41] <guiverc> we've tweeted..
[22:43] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Fridge spot check checks good :) OK now to wipe Gdoc ?
[23:07] <guiverc> Sorry Bashing-om,  fb finally shared - yep clear..
[23:19] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 614 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/01/20/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-614/
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Wiping Gdoc:D


[02:05] <bazhang> 'do the sudo thing in the terminal'
[02:06] <bazhang> last stop emacs station!
[15:15] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu shadow1809 bad language, frustration, rage quitting
[22:37] <oblishukai> unban me from #ubuntu please.
[22:37] <oblishukai> my real username is awesomess3
[22:40]  * elky goes to look at the ban log
[22:44] <elky> why should i believe that your behaviour has improved?
[22:45] <elky> oblishukai?
[22:45] <oblishukai> oh um
[22:46] <oblishukai> because I think I'm a better person now.
[22:46] <elky> howso
[22:46] <oblishukai> because I don't drink coffee or drink alcohol anymore.
[22:47] <elky> how does that change things?
[22:47] <oblishukai> Because I care more about me, and that makes me a better person because I care more about myself.
[22:50] <elky> How does that stop you from making inflammatory religious comments, or broadcasting your intention to bring down open source projects?
[22:50] <oblishukai> Plus this is my first offense, so I think I'm entitled to a second chance.
[22:50] <elky> no, no it's not.
[22:51] <oblishukai> OK mozilla is evil, do you know how many domain names that mozilla owns that millions of firefox clients connect to on a daily basis?
[22:51] <oblishukai> like 10+
[22:51] <oblishukai> and I don't have the logs for the religious comments.
[22:51] <elky> your application for ban removal is now rejected. have a nice day.
[22:52] <oblishukai> well it was a pleasure entering this channel, thank you for your time.


[17:39] <Nanzikambe> o/ I have an interface managed by netplan with default interface that seems to be ignoring "dhcp4: true" and keeping previous static IP after netplan apply - releasing with dhclient, bringing link down/up etc doesn't change this. Anyone have any idea what might cause this?
[17:39] <Nanzikambe> *default renderer
[17:58] <Nanzikambe> nvm nuking the /run/systemd/network/10-netplan-enx503eaa262681.network file and then running netplan apply finally made it actually regenerate the correct config