[03:24] <RishiRamraj> I have an odd support question; not related directly to Ubuntu but I figure you guys might know the answer. I'm looking for the equivalent OSX setting for remembering my last gnome session (i.e. the applications I had open). My friend saw my Ubuntu box do it and wanted to know if she could do it on a Mac. My Google search returns nothing. Any ideas?
[03:24] <svm_invictvs> Hello
[03:24] <svm_invictvs> I'm having issues with the broadcom STA driver, is anybody else experiencing those issues?
[03:24] <svm_invictvs> It's only with 10.10
[03:24] <rww> RishiRamraj: Try ##apple
[03:24] <pwnguin> SingAlong: there's also a lot of other highlight modes packaged, if you use "apt-cache search emacs"
[03:25] <RishiRamraj> @ svm_invictvs: What kind of issues?
[03:25] <liam> any ideas why apache is serving php pages as downloads rather than loading the page on ubuntu server?
[03:25] <dual-moon> liam, mimetype?
[03:25] <Blue11> rww: Suspending computation - CPU usage is too high
[03:26] <trism> momentum: xlock -background black
[03:26] <liam> dual-moon: it is a fresh install so is there a package I am missing or some config I need to do?
[03:26] <rww> hrm, that shouldn't stop it from connecting properly
[03:26] <RishiRamraj> liam: Is mod_php installed?
[03:26] <kkruit> hey all, I created a new user in 1010 wint admin privliages but for some reason when they log in thy cannot cnnect to wireless
[03:26] <Blue11> rww: only error I am seeing
[03:26] <dual-moon> liam, what RishiRamraj said
[03:26] <dual-moon> liam, sudo aptitude install mod_php
[03:26] <RishiRamraj> liam: Sometimes it doesn't get enabled. Try a2enmod php.
[03:26] <Lxndr> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10. Now I do not get sound from any website I visit in Firefox. How can I troubleshoot or fix this?
[03:27] <kkruit> I start wireless manager but I cant see any networks
[03:27] <liam> RishiRamraj: i get module php does not exist
[03:27] <fr0stbyte> can anyone give me a hint as to where i'd add a startup script command (service) - python, php, perl, etc.
[03:27] <trism> momentum: sorry, xlock -background black -foreground white; or you won't see the password prompt
[03:27] <rww> Blue11: Do you have any sort of firewall set up? Firestarter, or something like that?
[03:27] <liam> RishiRamraj: apt-get install mod_php says unable to locate package
[03:27] <dual-moon> how do i, from the command line, get aptitude/apt to do what happens when the update manager tried to upgrade from one version of ubuntu to another?
[03:27] <ChogyDan> fr0stbyte: you want to run a command?
[03:27] <Blue11> rww: no put let me disable ufw
[03:28] <kkruit> I think for some reason it's not lading my networkcard
[03:28] <fr0stbyte> ChogyDan, ya
[03:28] <dual-moon> i thought it was apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, but that doesn't do it :/
[03:28] <rww> Blue11: ufw wouldn't cause problems unless you've configured it very odly
[03:28] <rww> oddly **
[03:28] <ChogyDan> fr0stbyte: I made an upstart script myself
[03:28] <SingAlong> with the zillion pkg i have. i guess it's going to take me a long time to upgrade
[03:28] <RishiRamraj> liam: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[03:28] <Blue11> rww: ok.  boinc works on my 64 bit system but not this 32 bit system.
[03:28] <mnajem> hi all
[03:28] <fr0stbyte> ChogyDan, do I have to use bash or something and add it to some file..? (rc.local or something)
[03:28] <mnajem> got problem with ubuntu
[03:28] <mnajem> k3b
[03:29] <mcsean> Is Unity in 10.10 Netbook edition working with the Asus Eee PC 1000HE?
[03:29] <momentum> trism: worked; thanks
[03:29] <Lxndr> My Firefox will not make sounds from any website I visit. Can anyone help?
[03:29] <hanasaki> what command updates ubuntu server?
[03:29] <tiox> Well this is a bunch of suck and fail...
[03:29] <liam> RishiRamraj: it says libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version.
[03:29] <rww> hanasaki: upgrade from one Ubuntu version to another, or just install updates for the current version?
[03:29] <ryanprior> rww, Lint01: thanks for your help, much appreciated. :-)
[03:29] <thter> how do you disable ipv6 quickly, for the entire system?
[03:29] <ChogyDan> fr0stbyte: put a file like this in your /etc/init folder: http://pastebin.com/GRH4BZaZ
[03:29] <hanasaki> rww update to the current version from yesterday from the previous
[03:29] <tiox> I was looking up a game called projectx on Synaptic, when there's a similarly-named program for amature radio stream debugging.,
[03:30] <SingAlong> liam: did you install php5 and php5-cli?
[03:30] <rww> hanasaki: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades
[03:30] <RishiRamraj> liam: kk, that's good. Try sudo a2enmod php. I'm not sure what the module name is, so try tab completion.
[03:30] <tiox> For those who don't know, projectx is an open-source port Forsaken for Windows 95.
[03:30] <tiox> of Forsaken*
[03:30] <bl01zk> hey is there anyway to upload pictures u made into Qt design?
[03:30] <zhengshi> Where to download Ubuntu souces code?
[03:30] <SingAlong> tiox: now whats forsaken?
[03:30] <tiox> Awesome six-degrees-of-freedom game
[03:30] <sabqat9> i am having trouble restarting apache on ubuntu 10.04
[03:30] <sabqat9> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[03:30] <sabqat9> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[03:30] <sabqat9> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[03:30] <sabqat9> Unable to open logs
[03:30] <FloodBot2> sabqat9: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:30] <rww> Blue11: If you open Terminal and run "boincmgr", do you get any relevant messages in the Terminal window?
[03:31] <tiox> SingAlong, it was a game for Windows 95, similar to Descent.
[03:31] <azkorl> Hi, i'm trying to install vlc. Just did a fresh install of 10.10 and I did sudo su then aptitude install vlc. I got a message saying ..the program aptitude can be found in the following packages....try apt-get install...
[03:31] <liam> RishiRamraj: It gives me ERROR: Module php does not exist!
[03:31] <hanasaki> rww:  tried that ... sudo do-release-upgrade says no new release available.. I am on lucid now
[03:31] <azkorl> Why can't I use aptitude anymore?
[03:31] <fr0stbyte> ChogyDan, thanks! even the "start on started tty1" part? lol
[03:31] <rww> hanasaki: read all of the instructions.
[03:31] <SingAlong> tiox: so i guess that was pretty popular
[03:31] <hanasaki> ;)
[03:31] <Lint01> !details | azkorl
[03:32] <ChogyDan> fr0stbyte: and the exec part too
[03:32] <tiox> Actually, not too much. But the game's awesome and  believe should be packaged up.
[03:32] <sabqat9> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs
[03:32] <ChogyDan> fr0stbyte: the command in that file is /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start `uname -r`
[03:32] <tiox> I am sure it'll be a Ubuntu "Killer app", even though it's a really old game.
[03:32] <rww> hanasaki: you also need to tell it that upgrading from LTS to normal release is okay; the page I linked says how to do so.
[03:32] <azkorl> Lint01, I want to install vlc. I'm logged as root and did aptitude install vlc.
[03:32] <tiox> Coded in SDK so it works on anything.
[03:32] <azkorl> Lint01,  I get, the program'aptitude' can be found in the following packages..aptitude and aptitude-gtk.
[03:32] <gilaniali> how do I find which groups does root belong too?
[03:32] <azkorl> Lint01,  try apt-get instal <selected package>
[03:32] <pwnguin> I'm getting a mauve screen of death with nvidia drivers =/
[03:32] <gilaniali> *to
[03:33] <fr0stbyte> ChogyDan, good stuff ill give it a shot
[03:33] <Lint01> azkorl, it's no longer install by default
[03:33] <RishiRamraj> liam: try sudo a2enmod mod-php
[03:33] <azkorl> Lint01,  Why is that?
[03:33] <Blue11> rww: connect: Operation now in progress that's all then immed disconnects
[03:33] <pwnguin> known bug?
[03:33] <azkorl> Lint01,  Do you know by any chance?
[03:33] <Lint01> azkorl, to deviate from Debian some more
[03:33] <glithcd> ok please help
[03:33] <rww> azkorl: because they wanted to save a few megabytes of disc space. Bad decision, imho.
[03:33] <RishiRamraj> liam: try tab completion to be sure
[03:33] <glithcd> im trying to change the login in screen on ubuntu 10.04
[03:33] <glithcd> ive done it once
[03:34] <rww> Blue11: weird. I have no idea, sorry :(. You could try filing a bug about it.
[03:34] <rww> !bug | Blue11
[03:34] <Lint01> !bolgenos
[03:34] <azkorl> Lint01,  I see, thanks.
[03:34] <hanasaki> rww:  thanks.   any ideas about the screen dimming on 10.10?
[03:34] <aerosolapple> having a networking issue if anyone wants to take a stab at it
[03:34] <hcruz> quit
[03:34] <glithcd> but in the past i was able to download packages from gnome-look.org and install them to change the login screen, i cant seem to do that anymore
[03:34] <_BEAST>   HAL
[03:34] <glithcd> someone please tell what im doin wrong
[03:34] <_BEAST> please
[03:35] <wilmer> dell inspiron 1505 - wifi light blinks constantly while on internet after upgrade to maverick.  Same with new install. Any ideas to make the light solid appreciated.
[03:35] <rww> hanasaki: nope, sorry
[03:35] <Lxndr> So, I swear when I upgraded from 9 to 10, my Firefox had sound problems, and there was a website with a fix involving alsa or something. I cannot find this fix. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and where I can go to find it?
[03:35] <RishiRamraj> liam: any luck
[03:35] <RishiRamraj> ?
[03:35] <Blue11> rww: I'd reset the projects, but I can't get there from here.
[03:35] <hanasaki> rww:  it's a goofy one :(
[03:35] <wktian> help
[03:35] <glithcd> anyone know how to install a new login in screen tar.gz package?
[03:36] <rww> !ask | wktian
[03:36] <Rug> My internet is wonky right now.   Is fluxbox in the repos for 10.10?
[03:36] <Lint01> how to tell apt to show the package versions available?
[03:36] <rww> !info fluxbox | Rug
[03:36] <liam> RishiRamraj: no... ERROR: Module mod-php does not exist!
[03:36] <rww> Lint01: apt-cache policy packagenamehere
[03:36] <glithcd> *anyone know how to install a new login screen tar.gz package??
[03:36] <hDy> !info chromium | hDy
[03:37] <hDy> aaaw
[03:37] <rww> !repeat | glithcd
[03:37] <Blue11> rww: thanks give up for how -- try again tomorrow.
[03:37] <hDy> anyone have a guide for installing chromium in 10.10
[03:37] <correnos> I have a problem with gnome's theming. After I installed ubuntu and rebooted once, my desktop was set to the raleigh theme. I am able to change the theme with gtk-chtheme, but the gconf settings are being essentially ignored. If I delete .gconf, log out, and login again, the theme is reset to ambience, but if I logout and login after that raleigh is back. Does anyone have a solution?
[03:37] <Lint01> and to install one of them?
[03:37] <rww> hDy: install the "chromium-browser" package
[03:37] <correnos> hDy: just search chromium in the software store
[03:37] <RishiRamraj> liam: try sudo a2enmod php5
[03:38] <RishiRamraj> liam: just installed on my system
[03:38] <hDy> aah thx
[03:38] <rww> Lint01: how to install a specific version of a package with apt-get, you mean?
[03:38] <Lint01> rww, yes
[03:39] <wktian> how to update ubuntu10.04 to ubuntu10.04
[03:39] <rww> Lint01: sudo apt-get install packagename=versionnumber, I think
[03:39] <rww> wktian: assuming you mean 10.04 to 10.10, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades
[03:39] <_BEAST> anyone mess with ipv6 using airsrv ?
[03:39] <RishiRamraj> liam: it might say that it's already enabled
[03:40] <thter> how do you restore a file from backup
[03:40] <thter> the ~thing
[03:40] <SingAlong> oh crap! my netbook is out of space
[03:40]  * SingAlong needs to get a new one anyway.
[03:40] <oktexan> wktian: you mean 10.04 to 10.10?
[03:40] <wktian> yes
[03:40] <zhengshi> update-manager -d
[03:40] <Ryen> !anyone | _BEAST
[03:41] <zhengshi> wktian: update-manager -d
[03:41] <oktexan> wktian: what zhen said
[03:41] <Lint01> is there wine support channel?
[03:41] <ymasory> hi all. is there any way to d/l the 10.10 upgrade in a redistributable way? like so i can put it on a cd and upgrade other machines?
[03:41] <rww> wktian, oktexan, zhengshi: -d is for upgrading to development releases, not released versions of Ubuntu. Please use the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades .
[03:41] <SingAlong> wktian: software sources -> updates -> set upgrades to normal releases
[03:41] <Rug> Lint01: try #wine
[03:41] <switch10_> thter: copy over the file with the "~" one
[03:41] <halberd> ms windows has a nice window switcher where you can use the arrow keys after you alt-tab
[03:42] <halberd> specifically up and down arrows
[03:42] <Mipsalawishus> has anyone installed 10.10 on a thinkpad x100e?
[03:42] <rww> ymasory: download the alternate installer from http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate and use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[03:42] <SingAlong> halberd: or you can  just keep pressing alt-tab. Ubuntu too has a nice switched. try pressing the windows key + tab
[03:42] <wilmer> dell inspiron 1505 - wifi light blinks constantly while on internet after upgrade to maverick.  Same with new install. Any ideas to make the light solid appreciated.
[03:42] <SingAlong> what's the windows key actually called in ubuntu? command key?
[03:42] <halberd> SingAlong, the up-down key can get you there faster
[03:42] <Lint01> SingAlong, super usually
[03:42] <fr0stbyte> ChogyDan, it worked, sick awesome, thanks again
[03:42] <rww> SingAlong: Super or Windows
[03:43] <hiexpo> SingAlong, sper
[03:43] <hiexpo> super
[03:43] <ChogyDan> fr0stbyte: yw
[03:43] <h00k> SingAlong: itSint's called Super
[03:43] <wktian> will my old configuration be  lost  if i update
[03:43] <rww> wktian: no
[03:44] <thter> i edited my /etc/default/grub file and want to get it back to normal. does anyone know this?
[03:44] <SingAlong> hiexpo: I was giving a talk with another person 2 days back and he had all the slides on his macbook. and i didnt know what the shortcuts were when he left the stage :P
[03:44] <_BEAST> anyone
[03:44] <SingAlong> i just stood there staring at it thinking what to do and finally called the guy back on stage to co-ordinate my talk.
[03:45]  * rww goes afk
[03:45] <aerosolapple> can anyone help me get my internet connected on ubu 10?
[03:45] <_BEAST> !commands
[03:46] <sa-evo> How do I get TeamSpeak 3 to install? It is a .run file.
[03:46] <ymasory> thanks rww
[03:46] <aerosolapple> i cant ping nor acces my router via firefox
[03:46] <SingAlong> aerosolapple: wired connection or wireless?
[03:46] <jonathan> I think I broke ubuntu one.  It claims that my files are sync but it has the whole Documents directory structure, with none of the files in
[03:46] <thter> i edited my /etc/default/grub file and want to get it back to normal. does anyone know this?
[03:46] <aerosolapple> wired connectio can get online via moto droid tether usb
[03:46] <Lxndr> My sound in Firefox is failing to work. Can anyone help me troubleshoot? Please?
[03:46] <Rug> sa-evo: try sh filename.run    or sudo sh filename.run   or   ./filename.run   or sudo ./filename.run
[03:47] <SingAlong> aerosolapple: hmm... restart network manager. and also check if you have networking enabled (top toolbar. on the right)
[03:47] <sa-evo> Rug, thanks I'll try that.
[03:47] <SingAlong> ok. now whats the top toolbar called in ubuntu? taskbar?
[03:47] <hanasaki> how do you enable the 3d desktop cube?
[03:47] <Rug> sa-evo: np
[03:47] <hanasaki> and desktop cube vs rotate cube?
[03:47] <aerosolapple> yes already tried that and resetting my router
[03:48] <aerosolapple> ipv6 is disabled also
[03:48] <SingAlong> hanasaki: compiz settings
[03:48] <zhengshi> join #wine
[03:48] <SingAlong> hanasaki: there's also something that starts with B. i dont remember the pkg name now
[03:48] <hanasaki> SingAlong:  yes.. but I get a flat flipflop like screen not cube
[03:48]  * Skaperen finally has his hybrid images of ubuntu 10.10 ready ... these are for direct dd to a USB memory stick flash drive (no unetbooting)
[03:48] <SingAlong> hanasaki: try Beryll. thats what you are looking for.
[03:49] <hanasaki> SingAlong:  thought beryl was dead and replaced by compiz?
[03:49] <aerosolapple> i assume
[03:49] <gollum211> I have a question about 10.04 to 10.10 on my netbook.  After the upgrade completed, I don't have a desktop.  I simply have wallpaper (from 10.10) and a pointer?
[03:49] <SingAlong> hanasaki: beryll had that 3d cube effect.
[03:49] <aerosolapple> sorry ignore that
[03:49] <Lint01> where can I get RT73 firmware???
[03:49] <hanasaki> SingAlong:  thanks :)
[03:49] <thter> i edited my /etc/default/grub file and want to get it back to normal. does anyone know this?
[03:49] <SingAlong> hanasaki: np :)
[03:50] <hanasaki> why would compiz not be running when I log back in.. I login.. do compiz --replace.. save desktop programs running.. logout. login. its back to metacity
[03:50] <oktexan> aerosolapple:  do a sudo dmesg | grep eth0 and see if it has anything that might give a clue
[03:50] <hanasaki> FYI SingAlong and rww that issue with dimming.. it was "lightening"
[03:50] <aerosolapple> when i left click my network in top left all i get is wired network and it is
[03:51] <wilmer> Ubuntu 10.10: dell inspiron 1505 - wifi light blinks constantly while on internet after upgrade.  Any ideas on how to make the light solid?
[03:51] <aerosolapple> disabled. tried ifconfig eth0 up to no avail. will try that now ty
[03:51] <thter> i edited my /etc/default/grub file and want to get it back to normal. does anyone know this?
[03:51] <SingAlong> anyone using 10.10 on netbook here and can throw me a screenshot as to what i would see?
[03:51] <SingAlong> i'm so excited about the new UI for the netbook launcher.
[03:51] <jzacsh> anyone using ufw for iptables? -- i have this error when trying to start iptables daemon: "Cannot load iptables rules: /etc/iptables/iptables.rules is missing!"
[03:52] <zhengshi> I am installing http://ubuntuone.com/p/J5Q/ (ubuntuone-indicator) but Ubuntu Software Center has no respond fully now..
[03:52] <gollum211> I just upgraded my eeePC but don't have any desktop.  Not sure what that problem is.
[03:52] <SingAlong> gollum211: maybe wait for a few seconds?
[03:52] <sa-evo> Rug, says sh can't open it.
[03:53] <aerosolapple> oktexan: eth0: link up eth0: no ipv6 routers present and eth0: link is not ready
[03:53] <SingAlong> gollum211: it might be preparing the first time.
[03:53] <aerosolapple> sorry for my crappy irc manners i would copy past output but i am on irc via droid
[03:54] <SingAlong> aerosolapple: what irc app do you use on the droid?
[03:54] <gollum211> I have waited...    Nothing shows up.  I get my keyring password, and after that nothing else happens.  No HDD activity.  I let it go to lock screen (which does work) and entered my password to get back in.  Still no GUI.
[03:54] <aerosolapple> im using yaaic
[03:54] <gollum211> I can't ALT-F2 either.
[03:54] <aerosolapple> ifconfig up eth0
[03:55] <Until_It_Sleeps> Ubuntu 10.10 works great on my laptop
[03:55] <aerosolapple> eth0:unknown host
[03:55] <chelz> rww: why is your dreamwidth "Protected" now?
[03:55] <chelz> er
[03:55] <Rug> sa-evo: did you try with sudo ?
[03:55] <sa-evo> Rug, yes.
[03:55] <aerosolapple> ive also tried ifconfig eth0 up  with nothing either
[03:56] <Rug> sa-evo: and both:    "sh filename.run"   and "./filname.run"
[03:56] <sa-evo> Rug, yes as well.
[03:56] <Rug> sa-evo: next you can try:    sudo chmod +x filename.run    (and then sh filename.run)
[03:57] <Rug> sa-evo: if non of those work, there is something wrong with the file.
[03:57] <aerosolapple> its just maddening because when i had kubuntu i had no problem after install accessing internet
[03:57] <Rug> tiox: Can you tell me more about that game?   Where can I d'load it?
[03:57] <sa-evo> chmod apparently cannot acces it.
[03:57] <Rug> sa-evo: is it done downloading?
[03:58] <zhengshi> solved dpkg -i ~~
[03:58] <Rug> sa-evo: paste the error here please
[03:58] <sa-evo> Yeah, I've downloaded it 3 different times...
[03:58] <mark2010> Until_It_Sleeps: me too! Dell Inspiron 9100
[03:58] <sa-evo> chmod: cannot access 'filename.run' : No such file or directory
[03:58] <sa-evo> ('filename.run' obviously being the TeamSpeak file name instead.)
[03:59] <gollum211> Anyone have 10.10 running on a netbook?
[03:59] <sa-evo> gollum211, I do.
[03:59] <Rug> are you in the same dir that the file is in?
[03:59] <bl01zk> how do i convert a qt designer file into c?
[03:59] <gollum211> sa-evo: What is the "unity" process name?   I don't appear to have anything.
[03:59] <sa-evo> Rug, I'm not sure what you mean.
[03:59] <Lxndr> My sound in Firefox is failing to work. It seems to be related to the plugin-container. Can anyone help me troubleshoot? Please?
[03:59] <aerosolapple> oktexan: any ideas?
[03:59] <sa-evo> gollum211, you must be using UNR... Sorry, I have full desktop version.
[04:00] <Rug> sa-evo: you need to be typing those commands in the same directory that the file is located.    i.e. /home/sa-evo/team-speak/filename.run
[04:00] <gollum211> Yeah... I use the UNR.
[04:00] <sa-evo> Rug, now I have to remember how to get there in Terminal hahahah.
[04:00] <hotnikkelz> hello all
[04:01] <gollum211> Anyone else seen UNR?  I have nothing but a blank screen, and I am not sure how to troubleshoot it.
[04:01] <Rug> sa-evo: brb
[04:01] <SingAlong> gollum211: i'll be there in abt 6hrs.
[04:01] <gollum211> hehe... yeah, I let mine install overnight last night.
[04:02] <Margraf> hey folks, how can i install xbmc in maverick?
[04:02] <hotnikkelz> Can anyone help me with my problem please? I can't seem to get ubuntu netbook on a flash drive
[04:02] <oktexan> aerosolapple:  hmm...i would try a sudo dhclient -r  and see what it says first..
[04:02] <zhengshi> What's xbmc?
[04:02] <gollum211> Woke up, had to address some config issue, and let it reboot.  It all seems as if it worked, but the damn UI isn't showing up.
[04:02] <hotnikkelz> it's an open source media centre
[04:02] <aerosolapple> allright will do and ill send you the output. any ideas how to change my txt with this irc?
[04:02] <zhengshi> Get it.
[04:03] <tiox> Oh Rug!!
[04:03] <tiox> Let me find where you can download it.
[04:03] <hotnikkelz> add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ppa
[04:03] <oktexan> aerosolapple: you know what chipset you have and what net driver is loaded?
[04:03] <Margraf> zhengshi:  i need to play full hd movies
[04:03] <hotnikkelz> smplayer plays full HD movies
[04:03] <Lint01> is it possib;e to run wow in ubuntu?
[04:03] <aerosolapple> i know what ethernet controller i have no idea how to find out what driver is installed though
[04:03] <Lxndr> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10. Now I do not get sound from any website I visit in Firefox. It appears to be related to the plugin-container. This is an issue I had in 10.04, but I forget how I fixed it. Anyone know what the trick is? It was documented on a wiki or something. How can I troubleshoot or fix this?
[04:03] <chelz> hotnikkelz: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Installing_XBMC_for_Linux#Ubuntu
[04:03] <hotnikkelz> @lint not yet
[04:04] <Rug> tiox: thanks
[04:04] <Rug> sa-evo: back
[04:04] <DavyCave> anyone explain why after shuting down my computer and adding another hard drive it would cause my 2nd graphics card to dissapear? (ubuntu 10.04)
[04:04] <aerosolapple> i am still very mediocre with linux but comfortable using terminal
[04:04] <chelz> hotnikkelz: you can get to that wikipage by going to xbmc's site, clicking on Downloads, then clicking on Linux
[04:04] <sa-evo> Rug, cool.
[04:04] <oktexan> aerosolapple: k what controller do you have?
[04:04] <tiox> Rug: http://fly.thruhere.net/#projectx
[04:04] <zhengshi> Why just use SMPlayer?
[04:04] <sa-evo> Okay, so I know you use cd for changing directories. Just not how to actually do it.
[04:04] <Rug> tiox: thanks, muchly
[04:04] <os2mac> trying to run meerkat as a guest on VBOx and I am getting an error that says "no driver found for Unity" and it directs me to select "Ubuntu Desktop" as a session when I login, any ideas?
[04:04] <os2mac> gollum211: Vbox guest?
[04:04] <lsoderman> trouble with HD - booting from CD to install, but no HD seen. Recognized in POST, but not once CD is up - same result from USB - any ideas?
[04:05] <hotnikkelz> i tried to put unbuntu 10.10 netbook on a flash drive using, universal usb installer, but it doesn't work when i try to boot unto the flash drive
[04:05] <aerosolapple> realtek 8168d what was the dhcp comman again? this cliet auto clears too fast
[04:05] <aerosolapple> client*
[04:05] <tiox> Also, I was dead wrong.
[04:05] <tiox> The game is coded in SDL
[04:05] <sa-evo> hotnikkelz, try using unetbootin or some such (might have to Google.)
[04:05] <oktexan> aerosolapple:  sudo dhclient -r
[04:05] <Margraf> zhengshi: its not working well
[04:05] <hotnikkelz> chelz: that was for margraf, i'm not interested in xmbc
[04:05] <Rug> tiox: I will check it out.
[04:05] <hotnikkelz> I'm trying to get ubuntu netbookk installed
[04:06] <tiox> fanq, hope you deb it up for us. :P
[04:06] <Rug> sa-evo: Do you know where you downloaded it to?
[04:06] <sa-evo> Yes.
[04:06] <aerosolapple> linstening on eth0, line 2: sending on LPF/eth0, line 3 sending on eth0
[04:06] <hotnikkelz> sa-evo: thanks will give it a try
[04:07] <aerosolapple> im going to hop on irc on my desktop and just chat that way
[04:07] <sa-evo> hotnikkelz, it's what I used, since the universal one didn't work.
[04:07] <aerosolapple> will make life easier
[04:07] <oktexan> aerosolapple: is this a dual boot box?
[04:07] <hotnikkelz> My problem is when i plug int eh flash with ubuntu on it, and try to go into install, it freezes at a screen taht says syslinux, the initial screen
[04:07] <sa-evo> hotnikkelz, that's exactly what mine was doing before I switched to using the unetbootin method.
[04:08] <Crypto> get the new unetbootin build
[04:08] <Crypto> and use that
[04:08] <Rug> sa-evo: open a terminal window and type: cd /home/rug/dload/xxxxxxx      (changing "rug" for your login name and /dload/xxxxx/ for where you downloaded it.)   HINT:  use the TAB-key to auto-complete file & directory names.   /h<TAB>    will complete to /home/ .
[04:08] <Crypto> its a known bug in the pendrivelinux app
[04:08] <hotnikkelz> sa-evo: thankx man
[04:08] <javix> hi :D
[04:09] <ZGHirc> hotnikkelz :you need to use the tool ---USB  creator  in Ubuntu10.04
[04:09] <lsoderman> need help with meerkat install - USB and CD both boot fine, but don't see HD. If I boot to CD, previous Debian install boots fine. Any ideas?
[04:09] <hotnikkelz> ZGHirc: I don't have ubuntu 10.04, i need to do it from windows 7
[04:10] <DavyCave> anyone have multi-monitor SLI support in ubuntu 10.04?
[04:10] <Crypto> hotnikkelz: unetbootin
[04:10] <hotnikkelz> how do i reply to a person in particular without having to type their name manually
[04:10] <hotnikkelz> yeah Crypto, i'm on it as we speak :) thank you
[04:10] <rww> hotnikkelz: start typing their name and then press the Tab key
[04:10] <glebihan> hotnikkelz: you can use !tab to autocomplete nicknames
[04:10] <bribroder> hey guys, question for you
[04:10] <rww> hotnikkelz: for example, I just did h o <Tab>
[04:10] <bytesaber> what the crap is the "alternate cd" for ubuntu?  I don't see any software raid partition options with this cd
[04:10] <hotnikkelz> rww, ohhh
[04:11] <bribroder> so I just upgraded to 10.10 and I'm trying to mount my software raid array from 10.04. I get an error "Not enough components available to start the RAID Array"
[04:11] <bytesaber> ubuntu requires a different install disc for something normal?
[04:11] <jonathan> argh! ubuntu one is broke.  how do I 'unsynchronize' a folder?  if I uncheck it just seems to be loading forever and not doing anything, and if i close nautilus when i come back it's checked again
[04:11] <jonathan> there's got to be some better command line interface for this
[04:11] <hotnikkelz> glebihan, hmmm but what happens with similar nakes?
[04:11] <hotnikkelz> names
[04:11] <rww> bytesaber: If Software RAID is included in your definition of normal, then yes.
[04:11] <ss123> Hello. Is anybody able to answer me to question...is this one: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=243 play BluRays as the Windows version?
[04:11] <glebihan> hotnikkelz: you can type Tab several times to go round the similar nicks
[04:11] <hotnikkelz> mine gives a comma after the name
[04:11] <bytesaber> rww, sorry, i've just never seen software raid not offered durring install before
[04:12] <hotnikkelz> while people who directed at me, are in red, and a colon to my name
[04:12] <rww> hotnikkelz: If you're using Xchat, there's an option for that in the preferences somewhere.
[04:12] <hotnikkelz> I am using xchat actually
[04:12] <hotnikkelz> i will dig around then thank you
[04:12] <ZGHirc> hotnikkelz:I am also finding  for the solution in win7
[04:12] <glebihan> hotnikkelz: this depends on your config, you can change this in xchat preferences
[04:13] <rww> bytesaber: Ubuntu's installer is a little more new-user oriented than most distros, so a lot of options you'd see in e.g. Debian's installer (which is what the alternate CD uses, actually) aren't there, because if it's there, new users will click it :(
[04:13] <glebihan> hotnikkelz: Interface>Input box>Nick completion suffox
[04:13] <os2mac> SO! netbook as a Vbox gues?
[04:13] <glebihan> suffix
[04:13] <tiox> Rug, looks intense, doesn't it?
[04:13] <hotnikkelz> glebihan: thanks figured it out
[04:13] <Emanon> empathy in 10.10 is a little nicer still needs some of the stuff pidgin has though
[04:13] <lubun2> any idea how to get rid of this [drm:radeon_dvi_detect] *ERROR* HDMI Type A-1: probed a monitor but no|invalid EDID
[04:13] <bytesaber> rww, understood.   new to ubuntu myself, just not new to linux
[04:13] <Rug> tiox: just decompressing it now
[04:14] <hotnikkelz> which do i choose in the list for netbootin?
[04:14] <bytesaber> rww, figure it's time i finally see what the fuss is all about
[04:14] <tiox> Well, check out the gameplay demo on the right of the page I linked you.
[04:14] <hotnikkelz> i see ubuntu live
[04:14] <Rug> tiox: nah, demos (like instructions) are for whimps.
[04:14] <Rug> tiox: =)
[04:14] <hotnikkelz> netinstall
[04:14] <hotnikkelz> x64 etc
[04:14] <hotnikkelz> i don't see a 10.10 netbooik version
[04:14] <lubun2> this radeon err msg is filling up the dmesg log
[04:15] <tiox> Just an MP demo.
[04:15] <tiox> It's awesome watching.
[04:15] <sa-evo> Rug, is it installed if it finishes with "Uncompressing TeamSpeak 3 Client for Linux x86......................................"
[04:15] <bribroder> gaaah, why can't I bring up my raid array? :(
[04:15] <sa-evo> And then another terminal command line after it.
[04:16] <hotnikkelz> ah nevermind, i just have to browse to the iso, didn't realize those were just presets
[04:16] <Rug> sa-evo: 'probably.   As long as you donm't get an error message, you should be fine
[04:16] <sa-evo> Rug, question is then, where is it? I'm not seeing it in applications.
[04:17] <gollum211> If you CTRL-ALT-F1 to drop from graphics to a console (terminal), is there a way to go back to graphics?
[04:17] <glebihan> gollum211: Ctrl+Alt+F7
[04:17] <Rug> sa-evo: I can't answer that for you.  Try launching it from the CLI
[04:17] <Lint01> how to write shell expression for several filenames?
[04:17] <sa-evo> Rug, got me lost on how to do that hahaaha.
[04:18] <lsoderman> Need help with 10.10 install - USB and CD both boot fine, but don't see HDs. When I try to install, it says insufficient space, because it canIf I boot to HD, previous Debian install boots fine. Any ideas?
[04:18] <Rug> sa-evo: I have never used that program, I can only guess
[04:18] <zacstone> I still can't install my ubuntu..
[04:18] <glebihan> Lint01: what exactly are you trying to do ?
[04:18] <gollum211> glebihan: TY... worked!
[04:18] <glebihan> gollum211: yw
[04:18] <deac0n> anyone there
[04:18] <Rug> sa-evo: try t<TAB> and see what you get
[04:18] <zacstone> Lint01: what do you mean, do i have to mount my hard drives before i install ubuntu?
[04:18] <Lint01> like /a/b/x /a/b/y -> /a/b <something with x y>
[04:19] <dylan_> Help I started ubuntu 10.10 and the display won't work. It says it can't find X server.
[04:19] <Lint01> zacstone, what?
[04:19] <NateW> does anyone mind running md5sum on the netbook iso that they downloaded. ive downloaded it a couple of times and havent gotten a match to the md5 listed in http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/MD5SUMS
[04:19] <zacstone> still getting "no root file system is defined"
[04:19] <Lint01> dylan_, install xorg
[04:19] <dylan_> K
[04:19] <sa-evo> Rug, it's not showing up there.
[04:19] <Lint01> zacstone, at which moment?
[04:19] <glebihan> Lint01: depends on the exact command you're using, if you want to handle all files in /a/b, you'll use /a/b/*
[04:20] <Lint01> no, only x and y
[04:20] <Rug> sa-evo: I can't help you any further then
[04:20] <mark2010> zacstone: are you getting a kernel panic when you boot?
[04:20] <tmnoldpueblo> total newbie here.  installed maverick on my netbook, and now i have a black screen with a black 'x' on it.  can't "go" anywhere to see what's going on with it.  help!?
[04:20] <sa-evo> Rug, I think this thing hates me.
[04:20] <glebihan> Lint01: what command are you running ?
[04:20] <Lint01> bash
[04:20] <dylan_> It says that it is the newest version
[04:20] <glebihan> Lint01: and x and y are bash scripts ?
[04:21] <stark> ncmpcpp is automatically pausing as soon as I play a file.  Any ideas?
[04:21] <Lint01> no, just files
[04:21] <hotnikkelz> glebihan: does unetbootin usually takes this long?
[04:22] <glebihan> hotnikkelz: don't know, never used it
[04:22] <Rug> tiox: how do you run this game?
[04:22] <glebihan> Lint01: then I don't get it, what's the exact command you're trying to use
[04:22] <dylan_> Help I started ubuntu 10.10 and the display won't work. It says it can't find X server.I have xorg installed
[04:22] <glebihan> ?
[04:22] <tiox> Uhhh...
[04:22] <tiox> (Not a good response I know)
[04:22] <zacstone> Lint01: i do live boot dvd.. and it starts to install and looks like windows 7 hates it
[04:22] <tiox> I only played it on Windows.
[04:22] <hotnikkelz> hmm
[04:22] <tiox> The docu,entation on the website might help.
[04:23] <Lint01> zacstone, so.....
[04:23] <tiox> documentation*
[04:23] <Rug> yeah
[04:23] <zacstone> Lint01: then i get "no root file system is defined"
[04:23] <oktexan> aerosolapple: any luck bud?
[04:23] <NateW> zacstone: are you using manual partitioning?
[04:23] <zacstone> Lint01: every time i try to partition my hard drive different way
[04:23] <Lint01> zacstone, when booting from dvd?
[04:23] <zacstone> Lint01: ubuntu 10.10 64 bit
[04:23] <Jef91> Hey all this page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Privileges#Access%20internal%20storage%20devices - says I should be looking at the /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla file for letting anyone mount internal drives, however this file does not exist on my 10.04 system - any why or what it should look like?
[04:24] <tiox> Here's the source repo: "http://fly.thruhere.net/~lion/6dof/main/"
[04:24] <NateW> zacstone, if you are using manual partitioning, choose the partition you are formatting, and under mountpoint type in /
[04:24] <dylan_> Help I started ubuntu 10.10 and the display won't work. It says it can't find X server.
[04:24] <bastidrazor> zacstone: during the partition options of installing you need to define a partition for "/"
[04:24] <NateW> just a --->
[04:24] <NateW> "/"
[04:24] <tiox> Probab;y has all the files you need to run it.
[04:24] <glebihan> dylan_: what's the exact error message ?
[04:24] <zacstone> how do i get "/" root
[04:24] <Rug> tiox: I used to play Forsaken all the time, so I am jazzed about being able to play it again.   Thanks
[04:24] <tiox> Welcome.
[04:25] <tiox> Also Rug, all the unlocakbles are accessible.
[04:25] <zacstone> I have partition set to "root/swap/home" all set
[04:25] <Rug> nice
[04:25] <zacstone> but the installer still couldn't see my other hard drive..
[04:25] <tiox> And thanks to some pleading when I was playing it hardcore on 'Dos, I had the developer enable some of the cheats.
[04:25] <zacstone> i mean other partition
[04:26] <tiox> Look online for Forsaken (PC) cheats and most of them should work.
[04:26] <NateW> zacstone: you mean it doesnt show your windows partition?
[04:26] <zacstone> bastidrazor: i can't even type in "/"
[04:26] <zacstone> NateW: sort of
[04:26] <dylan_> Cannot open X server @ error/display.c/DisplayImageCommand/424
[04:26] <NateW> do you have more than one hdd?
[04:26] <zacstone> no just one
[04:26] <tiox> Ugh, unlockables*
[04:26] <zacstone> 1TB sata
[04:27] <zacstone> hiticahi
[04:27] <NateW> hmm.. that im not sure, but you have to set your "root" partition mount point to /
[04:27] <mkquist> zacstone: do you mean you have a / partition  and a swap and a separate /home ?
[04:27] <dylan_> dylan_ Cannot open X server @ error/display.c/DisplayImageCommand/424
[04:27] <mkquist> zacstone: three partitions right?
[04:27] <zacstone> I don't know.. do i have to name it to "/" or what?
[04:27] <zacstone> well i have windows 7 on it too
[04:28] <zacstone> i was trying to get dual boot
[04:28] <mkquist> zacstone: yes, one has to be named / one needs to be swap
[04:28] <dylan_>  Cannot open X server @ error/display.c/DisplayImageCommand/424
[04:28] <zacstone> so root is not the name?
[04:28] <zacstone> just "/"
[04:28] <NateW> yup
[04:28] <mkquist> zacstone: not the name '/' is root
[04:28] <zacstone> okay okay so i am gonna rename it to '/'
[04:28] <mkquist> zacstone: yes
[04:28] <dylan_> dylan_ Cannot open X server @ error/display.c/DisplayImageCommand/424
[04:28] <zacstone> okay i'll be right back
[04:28] <glithcd> how can i install login screen packages in 10.04  that i download from gnome-look.org if they come in tar.gz files
[04:29] <mkquist> zacstone: what are you using to partition? gparted?
[04:29] <Lint01> zacstone, there is a list of /, /home, /usr etc
[04:29] <dylan_> dylan_ Cannot open X server @ error/display.c/DisplayImageCommand/424
[04:29] <NateW> glithcd: my guess is they are not compatible with the newer gdm
[04:29] <glebihan> glithcd: login screen packages in gnome-art are for gdm 1, and 10.04 uses gdm 2, so you won't be able to use them
[04:29] <NateW> glithcd: whats the url?
[04:29] <glithcd> but they say that they are for gnome 2.x
[04:29] <Lint01> lol for linux to be secure you need have a hell lot of partitions set to nosuid noexec
[04:29] <NateW> which used gdm 1 still
[04:29] <gimpy4671> In Ubuntu 10.10 and 10.04 I cannot select either IDE drive to install to with Desktop but I can with Server.  Desktop does not even show them in the installer and only shows sdc and above (should be hdX but my mobo makes even IDE sdX).
[04:30] <glithcd> nd i believe i have gnome 2.1?
[04:30] <glebihan> glithcd: yep gnome 2, not gdm 2
[04:30] <lsoderman> Help with 10.10 install - USB and CD both boot fine, but don't see HDs. When I try to install, it says insufficient space, because it can't write to CD or USB (not enough space). If I boot to HD, previous Debian install boots fine. Any ideas?
[04:30] <dylan_> dylan_ Cannot open X server @ error/display.c/DisplayImageCommand/424
[04:30] <NateW> glithcd: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:30] <gollum211> Guys...  I figured out my problem with blank (wallpaper only) with no Unity shell.  Basicall "apt-get install unity"
[04:30] <glithcd> 10.04 32 bit
[04:30] <NateW> gdm packages wont work with that
[04:30] <glebihan> glithcd: btw gdm 2 does not allow much theming apart from changing wallpaper
[04:30] <dylan_> dylan_ Cannot open X server @ error/display.c/DisplayImageCommand/424
[04:30] <NateW> glithcd: best you can do, is change the gtk theme, and wallpaper, and icons
[04:31] <Lxndr> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10. Now I do not get sound from any website I visit in Firefox. It appears to be related to the plugin-container. This is an issue I had in 10.04, but I forget how I fixed it. Anyone know what the trick is? It was documented on a wiki or something. How can I troubleshoot or fix this?
[04:31] <glithcd> is there any way i can change the look nd feel of the login screen? besides the background?
[04:31] <glebihan> glithcd: as I said, no
[04:31] <glithcd> but i cant changed the over all look of it?
[04:31] <Lint01> glithcd, it's hardcoded
[04:31] <glithcd> dam.
[04:31] <dylan_> dylan_ Cannot open X server @ error/display.c/DisplayImageCommand/424
[04:31] <glithcd> thank you guys for the knowledge
[04:31] <JAMD456> Some of the games I have installed using the Ubuntu Software center do not work
[04:31] <JAMD456> even after I removed and reinstalled them using the sudo apt-get install command
[04:31] <NateW> glithcd: you can only change the gtk theme, icons, and background
[04:32] <glithcd> ill try to keep that in mind
[04:32] <glithcd> thx again
[04:32] <dylan_> dylan_ Cannot open X server @ error/display.c/DisplayImageCommand/424
[04:32] <JAMD456> By do not work I mean that the system is saying that the programs do not exsist
[04:32] <Lint01> JAMD456, run it from terminal and see iutput
[04:32] <JAMD456> Lint01 ok
[04:32] <Lint01> !repeat | dylan_
[04:33] <JAMD456> Lint01 Command 'lightyears' is available in '/usr/games/lightyears'
[04:33] <JAMD456> The command could not be located because '/usr/games' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[04:33] <JAMD456> lightyears: command not found
[04:33] <bto> t
[04:34] <Lint01> JAMD456, omg lol
[04:34] <NateW> glithcd: if you want to change those things, paste this into terminal: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop
[04:34] <NateW> glithcd: it will bring up the appearance properties at gdm, and after you are done, you can rm the copied .desktop file
[04:34] <JAMD456> Lint01 How do I edit the path preferably permantly?
[04:35] <NateW> JAMD456, you might be able to create a dynamic link?
[04:35] <Lint01> JAMD456, usually /etc/profile ... but who knows what that ubuntu guys f...ed with this time
[04:35] <AHemlocksLie> I'm trying to set up my wireless card on a laptop, but I'm having some troubles with ndiswrapper. I apparently don't have an ndiswrapper.ko, which seems to be an important file. How can I obtain/create one/fix this problem?
[04:36] <besieged> i updated my 10.4 install to 10.10 on my laptop and now the wireless won't work. up in the icon tray, the networking icon says no networking devices available and i can't click enable as its grayed out. When i go to additional drivers, my networking card's driver is listed there and lit up green just as i had set it in 10.4
[04:36] <NateW> JAMD456: try pasting this into terminal: sudo ln -s /usr/games /usr/bin
[04:36] <NateW> that might work
[04:37] <glebihan> JAMD456: add "export HOME=$HOME:/usr/games" to your ~/.bashrc
[04:37] <NateW> or that ^
[04:37] <Lint01> WHAT MEANS IFCOnfig: command not foynd?!
[04:37] <trism> JAMD456: neither of those, replace HOME with PATH in glebihan command
[04:38] <glebihan> trism: oh yeah you're right..... quite tired... :)
[04:38] <admin0> hi guys .. what package provides database connectivity for mono in ubuntu ?
[04:38] <admin0> apt-get install mono-?   -- for mono/ mysql database drivers
[04:39] <JAMD456> trism ok will do so
[04:39] <Rug> tiox: yeah, i cannot figure out how to launch this game.
[04:39] <AxionStile> Hello everyone
[04:40] <MadClaw> I am confuzzled.
[04:40] <tiox> Okay, go into the chat then.
[04:40] <AxionStile> I'm so lost :(
[04:40] <MadClaw> I just installed ubuntu Nfi how i'm supposed to install anything
[04:40] <MadClaw> XD
[04:40] <Guest72642> Is Irssi meant to run in Terminal?
[04:40] <glebihan> admin0: what do you need exactly, there are a lot of mono packages for different languages... see "apt-cache search mono" for a list
[04:40] <blakkheim> Guest72642: yes
[04:40] <linuxnoob> Really?
[04:40] <linuxnoob> wow
[04:40] <linuxnoob> Okay
[04:40] <NateW> AxionStile: with?
[04:41] <AxionStile> Well Nate
[04:41] <hackel> Is gconf-editor no longer to be used after the switch to dconf in Maverick?  I don't really understand the current state of things, since gconfd-2 is still running...
[04:41] <Rug> linuxnoob: yeah,its better that way.    There are a lot of GUI IRC clients
[04:41] <besieged> Can anyone help me try to get my wireless working again on my laptop? It worked before I updated.
[04:41] <linuxnoob> I'm used to mIRC on winblows
[04:41] <glebihan> linuxnoob: there are also graphical irc clients, if that's what your looking for
[04:41] <AxionStile> Ubuntu in general. I'm very new. Dual booting with Windows Xp and Linux ubuntu 10
[04:41] <linuxnoob> Yes please
[04:41] <linuxnoob> But i have nfi where to look
[04:41] <nanite> This is so cool! A console-based IRC client.
[04:41] <glebihan> linuxnoob: I use xchat, but there are others
[04:41] <nanite> So retro!
[04:41] <AxionStile> I installed ubuntu via pendrive with wubsi
[04:41] <linuxnoob> I will google, thanks.
[04:42] <blakkheim> retro? try efficient
[04:42] <nanite> It is!!
[04:42] <Lint01> !ot nanite
[04:42] <AxionStile> the dual boot process auto selects winxp to boot within seconds.. I'd like to switch over to ubuntu primarily for auto
[04:42] <blakkheim> why do you need a GUI for a text-only chat protocol?
[04:42] <NateW> AxionStile: cool, best place to start is: http://ubuntu-manual.org/ , it hasnt been updated to 10.10 yet, but it will still prove useful
[04:42] <nanite> This is true. Sorry to be off topic.
[04:42] <nanite> Way cool!
[04:42] <Lint01> AxionStile, edit c:/boot.ini
[04:43] <NateW> AxionStile: this is because it was installed with wubi. AFAIK, you have to edit C:/BOOT.INI
[04:43] <glebihan> blakkheim: cause people used to gui won't switch to terminal apps, that's a fact
[04:43] <linuxnoob> Okay i downloaded xchat 2.8.8 for linux
[04:43] <AxionStile> Alright, thanks you guys. I shall quit being a newb and read :)
[04:43] <linuxnoob> There's lots of
[04:43] <linuxnoob> files
[04:43] <AxionStile> Terminal looks so scary :(
[04:43] <[HypnoToad]> lol
[04:43] <nanite> Terminal is amazing!
[04:43] <blakkheim> !enter | linuxnoob
[04:43] <AxionStile> I need to learn so I'm not so scared
[04:43] <AxionStile> haha
[04:43] <nanite> You will learn to love sudo
[04:43] <[HypnoToad]> Terminal <3
[04:44] <Lint01> !ot | nanite
[04:44] <linuxnoob> heh
[04:44] <glebihan> linuxnoob: it's in the repos, install it with "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[04:44] <AHemlocksLie> I'm trying to set up my wireless card on a laptop, but I'm having some troubles with ndiswrapper in the new 10.10. I apparently don't have an ndiswrapper.ko, which seems to be an important file. How can I obtain/create one/fix this problem?
[04:44] <RRU_Sciguy> sudo make me a sandwich
[04:44] <iflema> linuxnoob search/use software centre to install apps
[04:44] <[HypnoToad]> !ot | RRU_Sciguy
[04:44] <mobius> where is update-motd called in cron on 10.04? it seems to have stopped displaying my outdated packages etc
[04:44] <NateW> AxionStile: for term, I know TWIL has done some good tutorials on the terminal basics. check out http://www.thisweekinlinux.com/ and there should be some links to his tutorials
[04:45] <Rug> linuxnoob: GUI = bloat = slow = ineffecient  CLI = lean = fast = using your computers for MUCH longer and not needing to upgrade.
[04:45] <bastidrazor> mobius: /etc/update-motd.d/  is the location of those scripts
[04:45] <lsoderman> Help with 10.10 install - USB and CD both boot fine, but don't see HDs. When I try to install, it says insufficient space, because it can't write to CD or USB (not enough space). If I boot to HD, previous Debian install boots fine. Any ideas?
[04:45] <mobius> bastidrazor: but what calls them?
[04:45] <blakkheim> Rug: agreed
[04:45] <Lint01> AxionStile, screw the terminal, start - programs - accessories -  right-click 'run as'
[04:45] <Woodyjlw> is playonlinux a version of wine or do you have to install wine and playonlinux?
[04:45] <linuxnoob> im so fucking confused
[04:45] <Datz> what room is for netbook?
[04:45] <RRU_Sciguy> HypnoToad, hey, you were talkin bout the terminal,
[04:45] <Lint01> AxionStile, notepad it is
[04:46] <bastidrazor> mobius: anytime you log in they are run. if the scripts are not executable they are ignored
[04:46] <rww> linuxnoob: Watch your language, please.
[04:46] <Rug> blakkheim: have you switched to xmonad yet?
[04:46] <NateW> Woodyjlw: playonlinux uses wine, so i think it has wine as a dependancy
[04:46] <blakkheim> Rug: i've tried xmonad but i prefer awesome
[04:46] <glebihan> Rug: that's a fanatic point of vue, and totally wrong for a new user...
[04:46] <Rug> blakkheim: why?
[04:46] <Lint01> terminal has obsolete in 1970
[04:46] <mobius> bastidrazor: hm. mine are executable on two machines... they are run on one and not the other
[04:46] <blakkheim> Rug: lack of haskell for one thing
[04:46] <Ryen> !ot
[04:46] <Rug> blakkheim: good point
[04:46] <RRU_Sciguy> not in the linux world mobius
[04:47] <AxionStile> ah yes Lint I understand I have to edit it in windoze :o)
[04:47] <mobius> RRU_Sciguy: huh?
[04:48] <AxionStile> One day I'd like to just stay far far far away from bill gates and his deviant ways.
[04:48] <Lint01> AxionStile, you need to check off read-only attribute first
[04:48] <RRU_Sciguy> mobius, the terminal is used quite often in ubuntu and other linux distros
[04:48] <AxionStile> Alright
[04:48] <AxionStile> is there any useful howto on all of this?
[04:48] <mobius> RRU_Sciguy: um... wrong person? i use the terminal all the time
[04:48] <Woodyjlw> NateW,  so wine would be a requirement to install before playonlinux to work correctly?
[04:48] <AxionStile> or should i skribble this down on a notepad with a crayon?
[04:48] <AxionStile> i will
[04:48] <NateW> AxionStile: on editing C:/BOOT.INI ??
[04:49] <gilaniali> I created a folder at '/' using the sudo command, but when I run ls -lha, it displays owner and group as root
[04:49] <gilaniali> why is that
[04:49] <Lint01> AxionStile, there is "default" line which tells which os to boot and "timeout" in seconds
[04:49] <Datz> is there a room for ubuntu's netbook edition?
[04:49] <blakkheim> gilaniali: because you created it as root
[04:49] <Datz> !netbook
[04:49] <Lint01> AxionStile, boot.ini has very simple format
[04:49] <NateW> Woodyjlw, ubuntu should install wine for you when you install playonlinux
[04:49] <rww> Datz: no, just this one.
[04:49] <h00k> Datz: you can ask in here
[04:49] <Datz> ok
[04:49] <Lint01> gilaniali, sudo[04:49] <oracle> i need to know if these updates were critical
[04:49] <graft> hey, anyone else having problems with their compiz wallpaper plugin?
[04:49] <jonathon_> How can I improve Flash performance in Firefox. Activity in one tab will affect a video playing in another tab. Sometimes it just locks up FF.
[04:49] <oracle> iow, must i reboot to have a secure system?
[04:49] <Woodyjlw> NateW,  oh ok...thanks
[04:50] <Cainmadness> Hey, just updated 10.04, and now it won't boot. Says it gives up waiting for root device. Help?
[04:50] <graft> err, i mean, anyone else having problems with their compiz wallpaper plugin after installing maverick?
[04:50] <Datz> well, the netbook interface didn't install.. I forget what it is called now.  Should I just try to reinstall it?
[04:50] <Lint01> graft, you can solve compiz problems by removing it
[04:50] <NateW> graft: never have gotten it to work period
[04:50] <blakkheim> jonathon_: there is no way
[04:50] <mobius> so, where is this update-motd.d stuff called from when you log in?
[04:50] <graft> Lint01: why would i do that?
[04:50] <rww> oracle: If you're using the regular graphical system, it'll tell you if you need to restart.
[04:50] <Lint01> graft, ubuntu is much more enjiyable without it
[04:50] <admin0> glebihan,  WARNING **: Could not load file or assembly 'MySql.Data, Version=<IP_ADDRESS>, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=c5687fc88969c44d' or one of its dependencies
[04:50] <admin0> that is what i am getting
[04:51] <graft> Lint01: that's like, your opinion, man
[04:51] <oracle> rww, but it wont tell me what security fixes were applied tho
[04:51] <gilaniali> blakkheim: Lint01: so how do I give my user account access to create files in '/' or '/opt'
[04:51] <gollum211> Datz: What do you see now on your netbook?
[04:51] <NateW> Lint01: except you cant SUPER + E to see all of your workspaces
[04:51] <mobius> ah.. there is actually a man page for update-motd. nm. :)
[04:51] <Lint01> NateW, i don't use workspaces
[04:51] <blakkheim> gilaniali: you can sudo chown youruser /the/directory
[04:51] <jonathon_> Any luck with other browsers? Epiphany? Opera?
[04:51] <Datz> gollum211: ok, guess unity didn't install. just looks like plain 10.10 gnome now
[04:51] <Lint01> gilaniali, chown -R username /opt/path
[04:52] <admin0> somethig like MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlConnection missing
[04:52] <blakkheim> jonathon_: no, blame adobe for making bad proprietary software that sucks on linux
[04:52] <gollum211> Datz: type: dpkg --list unity*
[04:52] <seismicmike> I have some problems with the Me Menu. I'm just now trying to use it for the first time. I have Ubuntu 10.04 that I just upgraded via APT to 10.10. I have set up AIM and Google Talk IM accounts as well as Twitter accounts. However, I do not have a broadcast field. It's just not there. Plus I don't know how to get to my buddy lists for my IM accounts. Also, when I tried to set up facebook, it authorized facebook, but th
[04:52] <seismicmike> ere was no "Apply" button so it wouldn't finalize creating the account. Anyone else have similar issues?
[04:52] <NateW> jonathon_: are you running 32 or 64bit?
[04:52] <Datz> gollum211: ok, well I guess it is installed, but is not loaded or something
[04:52] <gilaniali> Lint01: does the -R mean recursively add to all subfolders?
[04:52] <graft> gilaniali: don't give your user the ability to create files in /, that's a terrible security practice
[04:52] <Datz> gollum211: I'll check
[04:52] <blakkheim> gilaniali: yes
[04:52] <Lint01> gilaniali, yes
[04:52] <jonathon_> 64-bit 10.04
[04:52] <graft> gilaniali: don't do it!
[04:52] <NateW> are you using the 10.1 64bit version?
[04:52] <glebihan> admin0: when do you get this message ? cause this doesn't mention mono...
[04:52] <gollum211> Datz: you want to see Unity, right?
[04:52] <graft> jeez, you guys, learn some basic hygeine
[04:53] <Cainmadness> I just updated and it now loads saying gave up waiting on root device. Anyone know what to do?
[04:53] <Lint01> graft, eh?
[04:53] <blakkheim> graft: learn some basic..reading? he's doing it to a subdirectory of /opt
[04:53] <gilaniali> and what does ch at the start stand for?
[04:53] <infid> anyone know how to get the 'html validator' firefox plugin workin in 32-bit ubuntu? works in 64bit by default but 32bit is telling me "FATAL ERROR : The dynamic C library  contained in the extension file could not be found."
[04:53] <graft> blakkheim: read what he said, he also said /
[04:53] <NateW> jonathon_: are you running the 64bit version from adobelabs and not from the repos?
[04:53] <Datz> gollum211: yes
[04:53] <AxionStile> If I'm not back soon.. dont call your local authorities. I'll be fine
[04:53] <seismicmike> also... i just removed it to the panel to see if removing it and re-adding it would do any good, but now I can't find it in the list of things to add to the panel :(
[04:53] <frooh> anyone know why gdm might be broken but startx works fine?
[04:54] <AxionStile> Lint, Nate - thanks for the assistance!
[04:54] <NateW> no probs
[04:54] <Lint01> why there's no Public folder in Ubuntu?
[04:54] <pibarnas> frooh: gdm?
[04:54] <glebihan> frooh: by broken, what do you mean ? what happens ? what error messages ?
[04:54] <pibarnas> frooh: maybe a bad .desktop?
[04:54] <frooh> sorry, should be more specific
[04:54] <frooh> the screen stays completely black
[04:54] <NateW> Lint01: ive got a ~/Public folder
[04:54] <frooh> the logs don't seem to give any error messages that I can tell
[04:55] <tiox> Hey ruggy, manage to get PX working?
[04:55] <frooh> I looked in /var/log/gdm/:0.log and /var/log/X11/xorg.0.log
[04:55] <Maka> Greetings :) I have a question about compiz and ATI video drivers... I previously had 10.04 with compiz fusion working great on this laptop which has an ATI video. I upgraded to 10.10, but now I cant get compiz fusion to work. I do have the restricted ATI driver installed.  When I go to System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects tab to change to "Extra" graphics... it returns an error "Desktop Effects could not be enabled". Please hel
[04:55] <Maka> p? How do I get my compiz fusion working again?
[04:55] <gollum211> Datz: Try typing: sudo apt-get install unity
[04:55] <Rug> blakkheim: I am used to Fluxbox, how easy is it to configure awesome ?
[04:55] <Lint01> NateW, in $HOME? then it's not public
[04:55] <Datz> gollum211: when I run "unity" I get some failures
[04:55] <frooh> pibarnas: I don't think I have a .desktop, lemme check
[04:55] <glebihan> frooh: ok, when you start X, what command do you use ?
[04:55] <gollum211> About 2D -v- 3D?
[04:55] <Datz> gollum211: says installed, and at newest
[04:55] <frooh> glebihan: startx
[04:56] <Datz> gollum211: this is in a VM, and not a netbook btw. I don't know if it matters
[04:56] <glebihan> frooh: just startx ?
[04:56] <frooh> glebihan: or really sudo startx since I can't do that as my regular user
[04:56] <mobius> so, why would one pam_motd call the update-motd.d scripts and not the other? pam.conf is identical...
[04:56] <frooh> just "sudo startx"
[04:56] <pibarnas> frooh: check /usr/share/xsessions/ :)
[04:56] <blakkheim> Rug: i thought you were talking about tiling WMs only. i like openbox for floating a WM. awesome is configured with one lua file
[04:56] <jonathon_> NateW: had to check, flashplugin-nonfree is the package I have installed
[04:56] <glebihan> frooh: and what does that start inside the X session ?
[04:56] <frooh> pibarnas: what am I looking for?
[04:56] <frooh> glebihan: gnome
[04:56] <gollum211> Datz: I think it does, because your VM's graphics driver may have issues with 3D.  See this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/614088
[04:57] <Datz> gollum211: ok thanks. I'll have a look
[04:57] <Rug> blakkheim: I want to move to a tiling WM, but I am comming from Flux.
[04:57] <glebihan> frooh: btw you should be able to run startx with your normal user...
[04:57] <mobius> /lib/security/pam_motd.so is identical on both machines
[04:57] <frooh> glebihan: it said permission denied when I did that
[04:57] <frooh> I'd try again, but I'd lose connection and that's kindav a hassle
[04:57] <Lint01> gollum211, it was fixed
[04:57] <frooh> well
[04:58] <frooh> I'm logged in over screen, lemme pull this up on my desktop
[04:58] <Datz> gollum211: yes, that looks to be the problem as far as I can tell. thanks.
[04:58] <Lint01> gollum211, it says if no 3d is available
[04:58] <glebihan> frooh: no you can open a different display
[04:58] <frooh> oh, good call
[04:58] <frooh> startx :1 ?
[04:58] <glebihan> frooh: use "-- :1" at the end of the command
[04:58] <frooh> k
[04:58] <Datz> I don't think 3D is available by default
[04:58] <NateW> jonathon_: if you want, adobe has a beta 64bit plugin available. for me its WAY faster and more responsive. for that you have to remove the package, then download :  http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer_square_p2_64bit_linux_092710.tar.gz
[04:58] <NateW> after that, extract and copy to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[04:59] <NateW> jonathon_: make sure to remove the flash package from the repos if you do so
[04:59] <frooh> glebihan: ok this is weird, it gives an error about locking ~/.Xauthority
[04:59] <frooh> but I don't have that, should I touch it?
[04:59] <glebihan> frooh: yes try that
[04:59] <Datz> gollum211: anyway, unity is just some add on to gnome?
[05:00] <frooh> wait no, I'm just dumb, it's there
[05:00] <jonathon_> NateW: Thanks. I'll give it a shot, the insight helps, I didn't want to make it worse!
[05:00]  * frooh chowns it
[05:00] <RP64> hi guys
[05:00] <RP64> i was wondering
[05:00] <lsoderman> Help with 10.10 install - USB and CD both boot fine, but don't see HDs. When I try to install, it says insufficient space, because it can't write to CD or USB (not enough space). If I boot to HD, previous Debian install boots fine. Any ideas?
[05:00] <glebihan> frooh: .Xauthority should have permissions 600 and be owned by your user
[05:00] <RP64> if I used apt-get to install kubuntu on my ubuntu 10.04, does that mean  its the same as if I had installed Kubuntu from the disk? Or if I had used the synaptic to get Kubuntu?
[05:00] <RP64> it's the same right?
[05:01] <frooh> glebihan: I think somehow root got it when I started this session
[05:01] <frooh> brb
[05:01] <RRU_Sciguy> hey, gnome3 has been pushed back to 2011, so why is there gnome3-session in the synaptic?
[05:01] <glebihan> frooh: ok
[05:01] <mobius> is there a way to restart pam?
[05:01] <mobius> it doesn't seem to be calling pam_motd.so
[05:01] <NateW> RRU_Sciguy: probably a testing build
[05:02] <RP64> if I used apt-get to install kubuntu on my ubuntu 10.04, does that mean its the same as if I had installed Kubuntu from the disk? Or if I had used the synaptic to get Kubuntu? It's the same right?
[05:02] <RRU_Sciguy> NateW, good point
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> RP64: yes
[05:02] <RRU_Sciguy> I did what?
[05:02] <NateW> RRU_Sciguy: just like there is gnome-shell in the repos as well
[05:02] <RP64> tonyyarusso:  are u sure?
[05:02] <Datz> !unity
[05:02] <Maka> Greetings  I have a question about compiz and ATI video drivers... I previously had 10.04 with compiz fusion working great on this laptop which has an ATI video. I upgraded to 10.10, but now I cant get compiz fusion to work. I do have the restricted ATI driver installed. When I go to System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects tab to change to "Extra" graphics... it returns an error "Desktop Effects could not be enabled".
[05:02] <Maka> Please help? How do I get my compiz fusion working again?
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> RP64: yes
[05:02] <RP64> NateW:  so its the same?
[05:02] <glebihan> RP64: not exactly the same applications selection as if you had installed Kubuntu to start with
[05:02] <jonathon_> RP64: It's the same as far as I know, I think Synaptic runs apt/dpkg in the background, it's just a frontend
[05:02] <Datz> humm, ubottu doesn't even know anything about unity :p
[05:03] <RP64> glebihan:  why not? how do I fix that
[05:03] <NateW> RP64: what?
[05:03] <glebihan> RP64: but apt-get and synaptic do the same
[05:03] <RP64> glebihan:  well I typed sudo aptitude install
[05:03] <RP64> glebihan:  is that the same as apt-get
[05:03] <glebihan> RP64: there's no "fix" as this is not a bug... if you have all the applications you need, you're good
[05:03] <NateW> Maka: try removing the proprietary drivers, and reinstall them
[05:03] <Ashish500> Does ubuntu have a good DVD burning sotware packag?
[05:04] <RP64> glebihan:  im saying is sudo aptitude install the same as apt-get
[05:04] <RP64> ?
[05:04] <glebihan> RP64: yes aptitude and apt-get are the sma
[05:04] <Maka> NateW: ok i'll try that..thank you
[05:04] <glebihan> same
[05:04] <RP64> glebihan:  why have 2 names for it ??
[05:04] <RRU_Sciguy> Datz, ubotto needs an upgrsde
[05:04] <ajsie> is ubuntu still based on debian?
[05:04] <RP64> ajsie:  yes
[05:04] <glebihan> ajsie: yes
[05:04] <NateW> Maka: also, there's a chance that the new proprietary drivers may no longer support your card
[05:04] <ajsie> okay
[05:04] <JoeMaverickSett> Ashish500: Brasero would do just fine.
[05:04] <frooh> glebihan: no luck
[05:04] <ajsie> so it just add new packages? something else it modifies from debian?
[05:04] <Maka> NateW: that would make me very sad
[05:05] <frooh> glebihan: I chowned it, logged out, and it still says my user isn't allowed to startX
[05:05] <Maka> NateW: anyway.... i'll try removing and reinstalling
[05:05] <RP64> glebihan:  why does it have 2 names if its the same command
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> ajsie: there are bunches of modifications.  I'm sure nobody in this channel could list them all.
[05:05] <blakkheim> aptitude and apt-get are not exactly the same
[05:05] <Ashish500> thanks i need to insatll it
[05:05] <ajsie> okay
[05:05] <Maka> NateW: thank you for responding :)
[05:05] <glebihan> RP64: it's not the same command... but it will work almost the same way
[05:05] <blakkheim> aptitude handles dependencies better and keeps things cleaner
[05:05] <ajsie> blakkheim: debian doesn't have aptitude?
[05:05] <blakkheim> ajsie: it does
[05:05] <ajsie> okay
[05:05] <glebihan> frooh: still the same error with .Xauthority ?
[05:06] <Lint01> ajsie, no, just steals from debian and replaces wallpapers
[05:06] <JoeMaverickSett> Ashish500: it's installed default on ubuntu. no?
[05:06] <RCola> aptitude search is the best.
[05:06] <mobius> ah hah! /etc/pam.d/sshd seems to be clobbered on one of my machines.
[05:06] <ajsie> Lint01: :)
[05:06] <NateW> RP64: think of it as two programs that do the same things
[05:06] <RP64> glebihan:  so is the one I used gonna work less better than if I typed apt-get to get Kubuntu?
[05:06] <jonathon_> Maka: If the new drivers don't support your card you may be able to just change the control file. I have to use the Ubuntu restricted drivers with the AMD control file to avoid kernel panics or an ugly watermark.
[05:06] <glebihan> RP64: no just the same
[05:06] <RP64> NateW:  so in the end I am still getting the real full Kubuntu by having input this command right
[05:06] <Ashish500> oh ! i found it..
[05:06] <NateW> yeah
[05:06] <Maka> jonathon_: ok thank you
[05:07] <RP64> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:07] <RP64> was the command
[05:07] <NateW> yeah.. same thing
[05:07] <frooh> glebihan: well, it also says user not authorized to run the X server
[05:07] <frooh> glebihan: is there a group I should be in to do that?
[05:07] <deryl> ok now that really and truly sucked. the alternate installer does NOT support wifi, and will not allow me to initialize any other card than the built in wired card in this laptop
[05:07] <deryl> boooo
[05:07] <glebihan> frooh: I wouldn't think so, lemme check
[05:07] <RP64> wait
[05:07] <RP64> GUYS WAIT!
[05:07] <RP64> its asking me in the terminal:
[05:08] <RP64> configuring KDM, default  display manager : gdm , kdm
[05:08] <RP64> which one should I pick ??
[05:08] <Ashish500> How much time it takes to download ubuntu iso using torrents
[05:08] <rww> RP64: do you want Kubuntu or Ubuntu's login manager?
[05:08] <NateW> i would use gdm because im a gnome guy, but its up to you really
[05:08] <rww> Ashish500: depends on your connection
[05:08] <oraci> a little help please ... I have a problem when configuring autologin in ubuntu alternate 10.04.1 ... install in console mode ... and after reviewing a manual install mingetty ... and the next step is to edit the tty1 file that would have to be in / etc / event.d / ... but there is obviously not the folder the file event.dy tty1
[05:08] <jonathon_> NateW: Should I purge the flash package or just remove?
[05:08] <RP64> rww:  uh which one is better?
[05:08] <deryl> ashish500 ~ its taking me about 2 hours over a 560kB/s link
[05:08] <rww> RP64: whichever one you prefer. They both do the same thing.
[05:08] <NateW> jonathon_: i just remove it
[05:08] <RP64> NateW:  if I pick kdm can I switch the login screen back to gdm if I dont like it ?
[05:08] <NateW> probably
[05:08] <RP64> rww:  if i dont like the kdm can i move it back to gdm
[05:08] <rww> RP64: yes
[05:09] <RP64> NateW:  awgh probably?! lol
[05:09] <deryl> ashish500 ~ thats for the desktop dvd iso
[05:09] <RP64> rww:  how
[05:09] <NateW> google?
[05:09] <NateW> =P
[05:09] <RP64> -_  - lol
[05:09] <rww> RP64: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, I think
[05:09] <deryl> ashish500 ~ the alternate installer 690MB cd image took me about oh 20 minutes
[05:09] <rww> !google | NateW
[05:09] <bytesaber> where is the Alternate for 10.04 ?
[05:09] <NateW> rww: making a joke
[05:09] <deryl> bytesaber ~ off the alternate download page
[05:10] <glebihan> frooh: no that's weird, I just created a new user without any permissions, and was able to startx with that user...
[05:10] <Ashish500> yes
[05:10] <RP64> rww: lol
[05:10] <RP64> NateW:  lol
[05:10] <rww> bytesaber: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ , see the "Alternate install CD" section
[05:10] <bytesaber> deryl   i don't see 10.0.4   http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[05:10] <frooh> grr
[05:10] <frooh> well
[05:10] <NateW> AxionStile: worked?
[05:10] <frooh> I can figure that out later
[05:10] <frooh> glebihan: any way you could help me with GDM?
[05:10] <RP64> guys is Kubuntu good... is the upside of it that its similar to Windows and flashier?
[05:10] <deryl> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[05:10] <deryl> oh sorry I'm doing kubuntu
[05:10] <bytesaber> rww, cool thanks
[05:11] <AxionStile> Nate that file grew legs sir.. it ran away
[05:11] <scampbell> are we hearing any talk/solutions for world of warcraft crashing on startup on 10.10?
[05:11] <NateW> RP64: i havent used kubuntu much, but its really a matter of you opinion if its better or not.
[05:11] <RP64> NateW:  so why do u not like kubuntu
[05:11] <oraci> any help?
[05:11] <nprasath002> hi what is the best software to run windows in a virtual environment in ubuntu?
[05:11] <deryl> bytesaber ~ taking me a minute I'm still grabbing the desktop dvd image and its saturating my link
[05:12] <deryl> bytesaber ~ http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[05:12] <lucent> nprasath002: 'kvm' is the default with Ubuntu
[05:12] <NateW> RP64: i personally dont like the look and layout of kubuntu, also i find that it doesnt perform as well and the apps arent as nice. but kde people will say the same thing about gnome
[05:12] <glebihan> frooh: well as you don't get any error message, it's always hard to guess, but you can try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <RP64> NateW:  uh oh that sounds bad lol
[05:12] <bytesaber> deryl, ahh torrent.  way better.  thank you
[05:12] <frooh> hm
[05:12] <NateW> RP64: its about a trillion times better than windows though
[05:12] <deryl> yep
[05:12] <RRU_Sciguy> rprp46: again its all personal preference
[05:13] <RP64> NateW:  will installing this KDE while I also have GNOME installed make my computer slow?
[05:13] <Ashish500> sunvirtualbox
[05:13] <deryl> bytesaber ~ thats what I'm doing. 70 seeds right now. getting 566kB/s
[05:13] <NateW> RP64: No
[05:13] <frooh> wtf
[05:13] <RP64> RRU_Sciguy:  whats ur prefference and why?
[05:13] <frooh> glebihan: somehow my main user is no longer in sudoers
[05:13] <deryl> well 70 active out of 240
[05:13] <frooh> so now I can't become root
[05:13] <glebihan> RP64: no it'll just use some disk space
[05:13] <AxionStile> Okay
[05:13] <AxionStile> brb
[05:14] <glebihan> frooh: wow... that's odd...
[05:14] <frooh> hmmm
[05:14] <frooh> I wonder if I should install from scratch...
[05:14] <AxionStile> I just opened the boot.ini in ubuntu.... :D !
[05:14] <frooh> I have a home partition
[05:15] <RRU_Sciguy> rp64: So far Gnome, a little cleaner, nice interface. and if you install the other desktop packages through synaptic, then you can choose which one to use at login
[05:15] <AxionStile> see, I'm having driver problems in windows xp.. it doesnt understand that I have a modem.. so I cant connect and ask dumb questions unless im on ubuntu
[05:15] <glebihan> frooh: that may be the best solution, cause you seem to have several weird problems there
[05:15] <lucent> frooh: was sudoers the only thing that was messed up? That'd be my concern
[05:15] <nanite> Hi, I'm new to IRC chatting. How can I query a server to list all of the available IRC channels for me?
[05:15] <frooh> lucent: lots of things are wrong
[05:15] <AxionStile> nanite try ./list minus the period
[05:15] <frooh> lucent: gdm seems to be broken for some reason
[05:15] <lucent> nanite: if you query the channels, it gives you all the channels and then kicks you offline for requesting too much info, be warned
[05:15] <nanite> Thank you
[05:15] <AxionStile> I believe that's it
[05:15] <Guest51141> hi i got something wierd. the install cd could use my wireless card but the full install cant seem to
[05:16] <AxionStile> You're very welcome
[05:16] <frooh> sudoers seems to have just happened
[05:16] <RRU_Sciguy> nanite, if you are using xchat, Network>channels
[05:16] <deryl> natew ~ hehe yeah I'm definitely firmly in the KDE camp, and I say the exact same thing about gnome. the 2 camps have been sniping at each other for years
[05:16] <lucent> frooh: well you can fix simple specific issues if you know what you did...  trying to magically put the scrambled egg back in its shell is not so easy
[05:16] <nanite> Network>channels
[05:16] <deryl> natew ~ hehe 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other
[05:16] <nanite> No, I'm using Terminal and irssi
[05:16] <frooh> lucent: I just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 :-(
[05:17] <nanite> No GUI client.
[05:17] <frooh> afaik I didn't do anything else
[05:17] <NateW> deryl: haha, which is fine with me though
[05:17] <zaya> frooh: is it a clean iso?
[05:17] <lucent> frooh: i.e. boot root shell "single" mode on kernel command line would get you to root shell and then edit /etc/sudoers or your group info to add 'admin' group to the user, but other things may still be broken
[05:17] <frooh> zaya: er, I used update-managaer
[05:17] <deryl> natew ~ same with me. as long as we all use waht we like, i really don't care if they fight or not
[05:17] <RRU_Sciguy> nanite, ok so you cant click the buttons XD
[05:17] <nanite> Lol.
[05:17] <Guest84760> is anyone avuilable to help me wioth my wireless card issue?
[05:17] <lucent> frooh: fresh reinstall would be the most assuring that you have a working OS
[05:17] <frooh> right
[05:17] <nanite> I'm not using a GUI client
[05:17] <frooh> grr
[05:17] <oraci> a little help please ... I have a problem when configuring autologin in ubuntu alternate 10.04.1 ... install in console mode ... and after reviewing a manual install mingetty ... and the next step is to edit the tty1 file that would have to be in /etc/event.d/ ... but not found folder /etc/event.d/ and obviously noy found file tty1
[05:17] <NateW> deryl: exactly, its all just what you like and as long as everyones needs are met, thats all that matters
[05:17] <nanite> Purely Ubuntu terminal
[05:17] <JoeMaverickSett> nanite: it wouldn't be a good idea to query how many channles are on freenode. it is rather wise to find channels from the web.
[05:18] <zaya> frooh: that usually does it
[05:18] <frooh> this is just a hassle because this computer doesn't have a CD driver
[05:18] <AxionStile> Okay you guys I'm very new and very ignorant. I'm running Ubuntu 10 and Windows XP. Xp doesn't have the drivers (for basically anything including modem) so I must be on Ubuntu. Windows is the 1st to auto boot upon starting the pc. I'd like to switch it to where Ubuntu auto boots instead. Nate clearly informed me to edit the boot.ini file. I have that opened right now in ubuntu but don't understand what to edit exactly. I s
[05:18] <AxionStile> ee the timeout in seconds, etc. Just need a little direction if possible.
[05:18] <frooh> drive*
[05:18] <nanite> JoeMaverickSett: OK. So, simply check out the freenode.org website for the channel list?
[05:18] <zaya> frooh: USB install?
[05:18] <frooh> zaya: right
[05:18] <deryl> yeah I have to format my upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 as well. getting SERIOUS i/o issues and even just installing a 40KB package snapped my load avg to 7.10+ for over 5 minutes
[05:18] <JoeMaverickSett> nanite: you could like do that + find irc channels on freenode on google.
[05:19] <Guest84760> hi i got something wierd. the install cd could use my wireless card but the full install cant seem to can anyone help me get myu wireless card running?
[05:19]  * frooh goes to car to get usb key
[05:19] <Breetai> Hey, just got on Maveric and installed vmware player. Every time I start VMware player it wants to recompile the kernel drivers? Anyone else having this problem? Anyone know of a sloution?
[05:19] <NateW> AxionStile: one sec, i'll boot up my vm of xp here
[05:19] <deryl> I'm thinking it was the upgrade, because ii have had exactly zero issues like that with 10.04. so going to format and reinstall
[05:19] <AxionStile> NateW : Thank you very much
[05:19] <nanite> JoeMaverickSett: Alright. Also, exactly how safe is IRC chatting?
[05:19] <deryl> besides the fact I have an rsync ANd an rdiff-backup of my 10.04 install if i MUST go back to it
[05:19] <nanite> JoeMaverickSett: At least when it comes to security.
[05:19] <sunny1> For some reason upgrading to 10.10 changing my double click track pad settings...There's no option under "Mouse", help please?
[05:20] <RRU_Sciguy> nanite, I believe very
[05:20] <JoeMaverickSett> nanite: i wouldn't know. but it's freenode + it's the ubuntu channels, so i do trust them.
[05:20] <gnushitweasel> Nanite, you can use irc with ssl
[05:20] <nanite> Oh, really?
[05:20] <nanite> Yes, that would be good.
[05:20] <Guest84760> hi i got something wierd. the install cd could use my wireless card but the full install cant seem to can anyone help me get myu wireless card running?
[05:20] <NateW> AxionStile: second line should be timeout=# .. right?
[05:20] <lsoderman> Help with 10.10 install - USB and CD both boot fine, but don't see HDs. When I try to install, it says insufficient space, because it can't write to CD or USB (not enough space). If I boot to HD, previous Debian install boots fine. Any ideas?
[05:20] <gnushitweasel> Yeah, well, actually, i'm not sure if all channels support it
[05:20] <nanite> I am on an institution network, and I'd rather shield my communications from the server
[05:20] <lucent> nanite: IRC is untrusted
[05:21] <deryl> nanite as lonjg as you stick to the official channels, there are enough realtime chatteers to debunk MOST false info so sticking with them is the right choice
[05:21] <AxionStile> correct sir, right under bootloader
[05:21] <AxionStile> second line
[05:21] <gnushitweasel> I'm not really familiar with either protocol tbh
[05:21] <nanite> deryl: I see.
[05:21] <NateW> AxionStile: change that to the number of seconds you want the selection to appear
[05:21] <nanite> How would I connect with SSL?
[05:21] <frooh> oh shoot
[05:21] <AxionStile> NateW: done
[05:21] <nanite> simply type SSL when I call up the server?
[05:21] <frooh> lucent: I'm dumb, I was trying to sudo on the machine that irssi is running on
[05:22] <NateW> AxionStile: and 4th line should be [operating systems]
[05:22] <zaya> guest84760: did you try System > Admin > Hardware Drivers?
[05:22] <JoeMaverickSett> nanite: http://www.irssi.org might want to read up some tips&tricks.
[05:22] <gnushitweasel> It depends on your client, but from what it sounds like, it's not going to help you
[05:22] <nanite> lucent: LOL
[05:22] <AxionStile> Yes sir NateW
[05:22] <deryl> guest84760 ~ hehe. the alternative text installer does NOT see my wifi. but the full desktop version does (of both ubuntu and kubuntu). my issue is usually that the ati card in this laptop locks kubuntu cold, but not ubuntu
[05:22] <rww> nanite: tell your client to use SSL and connect on port 7000
[05:22] <nanite> JoeMaverickSett: Thank you.
[05:22] <geist> hrm. this particular box did not like the 10.10 update
[05:22] <deryl> i just don't want gnome on here if i can help it :)
[05:22] <AxionStile> Under operating systems line the next is: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
[05:22] <glebihan> frooh: so your sudoers file didn't change by itself after all :)
[05:22] <geist> seems to wedge for 5 minutes or so every boot. betcha it's nfs...
[05:22] <nanite> rqq: OK, I will attempt to do that once I learn the syntax and command list for the irssi client.
[05:22] <Keal> FUCK OFF! Nigger Begone HCL Spray: 5.00,  The expression on that nigger's half-melted face: PRICELESS. http://aryanwear.com/fuck-nigger-repellent-p-1135.html57.html "I ordered mine two days ago, get yours while it is still in stock."
[05:22] <frooh> glebihan: thankfully :-)
[05:23] <rww> !ops | Keal
[05:23] <Guest84760> zaya no drivers listed in system admin additional drivers
[05:23] <nanite> WOW....THAT IS REALLY HORRIBLE.
[05:23] <NateW> AxionStile: just though of something, could you paste the boot.ini file into http://www.pasteall.org ?
[05:23] <AxionStile> I'm not clicking, but it didn't sound nice
[05:23] <Keal> How is this even an emergency, nanite?
[05:23] <AxionStile> Sure thing Nate
[05:23] <nanite> It's not.
[05:23] <nanite> Who said it was an emergency?
[05:24] <nanite> Keal: I can't pop in to ask a question?
[05:24] <rww> nanite: me. Best to ignore idiots like that person :(
[05:24] <AxionStile> Nate: save as text?
[05:24] <frooh> I guess I'll do a fresh install anyway
[05:24] <NateW> AxionStile: doesnt matter
[05:24] <RRU_Sciguy> remember, ubotto aint the sharpest tool in the shed
[05:24] <nanite> Thank you, everyone. ^_^ I'm off.
[05:24] <TheoryDesigns> hello
[05:24] <TheoryDesigns> im running ubuntu studio
[05:24] <TheoryDesigns> 10.04
[05:24] <TheoryDesigns> :)
[05:24] <glebihan> frooh: ok goo luck then :)
[05:24] <AxionStile> http://www.pasteall.org/16181/text
[05:24] <glebihan> s/goo/good
[05:25] <deryl> ubotto is just a bot. the !ops tag is just to notify the normal channel operators is all
[05:25] <coz_> TheoryDesigns, how are liking it?
[05:25] <frooh> glebihan: I don't *want* to, I just don't see a simpler option at this point
[05:25]  * frooh blames ATI
[05:25] <glebihan> frooh: yeah I understand that...
[05:25] <deryl> frooh ~ hehe you and me both
[05:25] <TheoryDesigns> coz_ it is so great im using it for a vps to host free shells and host websites :)
[05:25] <coz_> TheoryDesigns,  very cool :)
[05:26] <zacstone> i failed. i broke windows
[05:26] <glebihan> frooh: I must be protected by the gods, using ati drivers, didn't a fresh install for about 2 years now...
[05:26] <TheoryDesigns> coz_ i want to use ubuntu studio for as long as they keep releasing new releases cause i know i just have a better upgraded os to look forward to :D
[05:26] <zaya> zacstone: windows was broke before you touched it
[05:26] <JoeMaverickSett> lol
[05:26] <TheoryDesigns> coz_ are you a ubuntu studio developer?
[05:26] <RRU_Sciguy> zacstone, rock or baseball
[05:26] <deryl> glebihan ~ hehe wish the kde release of ubuntu didn't have that issue
[05:26] <frooh> glebihan: well, this silly laptop is just full of weird stuff; when I first set it up I even had to compile my own network drivers
[05:27] <deryl> glebihan ~ locks my ati card on this machine cold
[05:27] <zacstone> i have to install windows 7 again
[05:27] <coz_> TheoryDesigns,  no I am not
[05:27] <glebihan> frooh: wow haven't had to do that since dapper I think...
[05:27] <zacstone> why cant ubuntu do all the work like it used to?
[05:27] <RRU_Sciguy> zaya, windows has NEVER failed me
[05:27] <AxionStile> How did windows not fail you?
[05:27] <TheoryDesigns> coz_: ok just thought you had some thing to do with it what ubuntu versions you use?
[05:28] <gnushitweasel> As far as laptops go, you don't have too much choice, i've found battery life to suffer a lot under linux
[05:28] <geist> hrm, not nfs. removed all of them from fstab
[05:28] <zaya> RRU_Sciguy: I never said it fails anyone, broke vs fail
[05:28] <AndrewMC> !ot
[05:28] <AxionStile> i say both!
[05:28] <Ken8521> zacstone: what exactly do you think ubuntu "doesn't do for you"?
[05:28] <geist> hrm, is there a verbose boot script logging option?
[05:28] <deryl> uhh ubuntu DOES do all the work you want it to. installs, splits NTFS drives for install space, autopartitions or allows you to manually do it, installs a base set, sets up your system according to what you tell it you need for additionals ettings for devices IF you so desire or need to
[05:28] <NateW> AxionStile: because the ubuntu record is showing up as C:\wubildr.mbr instead of the format that the xp record is in, i'd be really cautious of setting default to it. here it is to try: http://www.pasteall.org/16182/text <--- but be careful, if it doesnt work, you may then have to use a livecd to change it back, but i dont think there should be any serious issues
[05:28] <coz_> TheoryDesigns,  I have used most of them... I always go back to main ubuntu ... are you having any issues on that system?
[05:29] <lucent> geist: there's a loglevel setting, not sure that's what you'd want
[05:29] <zacstone> make me a root!
[05:29] <geist> lucent: well, something is wedging during boot for 5 minutes or so. hard to tell who is doing it
[05:29] <AxionStile> Nate: Thanks very much. I'm reluctant now though haha. I don't have a live cd.. I just have wubi on pen drive.. and i dont have the drivers on xp for the modem, audio, etc so i cant get online :(
[05:29] <geist> last thing i see is "setting sensors limits"
[05:30] <lucent> geist: bad news to hear this... what kind of hardware?
[05:30] <graft> i can't believe they released another version of ubuntu without fixing this window border bug
[05:30] <oraci> hi... a little help please ... I have a problem when configuring autologin in ubuntu alternate 10.04.1 ... install in console mode ... and after reviewing a manual install mingetty ... and the next step is to edit the tty1 file that would have to be in /etc/event.d/ ... but not found folder /etc/event.d/ and obviously noy found file tty1
[05:30] <deryl> and why use the windows loader instead of grub when grub has zero issues booting windows as well (unless you isntall windows AFTER you installed ubuntu and then well, everything out there alrady tells you to install windows first due to how it installs itself
[05:30] <geist> xeon 5520, dual core
[05:30] <deryl> )
[05:30] <NateW> AxionStile: it should be fine, but id have a livecd to be on the safe side
[05:30] <geist> well, dual cpu
[05:30] <Ken8521> zacstone: that's a design feature... and it's hardly a negative
[05:30] <NateW> id say its 95% safe
[05:30] <lucent> geist: try booting 'nosmp' kernel option to disable the SMP related stuff, just as a test
[05:30] <RRU_Sciguy> graft: what's going on?
[05:30] <geist> lucent: it's an upgrade from 10.04. digging into what's up
[05:30] <zacstone> ken what can i do?
[05:31] <AxionStile> What exactly is the live cd? Is that just the iso on cd that loads as a bootable cd to install ubuntu? Am even remotely correct on this stupid question?
[05:31] <geist> hrm, will do
[05:31] <graft> RRU_Sciguy: the whole only-1-pixel-border-with-which-to-resize thing
[05:31] <Ken8521> zacstone: use sudo?.. like the system is designed to use.
[05:31] <histo> AxionStile: yes.
[05:31] <NateW> AxionStile: exactly
[05:31] <AxionStile> 95% is good odds, though I have horrible luck with virtually everything
[05:31] <Ken8521> why would you want to be root all the time anyway?
[05:31] <AxionStile> Alright!
[05:31] <geist> once whatever times out times out it seems to be totally fine. evyerthing is working
[05:31] <almoxarife> AxionStile: is your issue with a wubi install?
[05:31] <AxionStile> I'll take the iso off my pendrive.. and burn it to a cdrw :)
[05:31] <lucent> graft: work around it is easy, there's a Metacity setting to enable modifier+R_button to resize the window
[05:31] <RRU_Sciguy> Ken8521, It is a negative when you are used to being able to access ALL files and folders as the admin with WINDOWS
[05:31] <JoeMaverickSett> AxionStile: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[05:31] <geist> it's also pre-network. can't ping it while it's waiting
[05:31] <histo> AxionStile: you can boot from a pendrive also
[05:32] <deryl> ken8521 ~ because he doesn't understand how unix works and is trying to make it like windows to make it easier for himself (right or wrong)
[05:32] <NateW> AxionStile: what you could do, is put the ubuntu iso image onto your pendrive and as long as your bios is bootable to usb you can boot that way
[05:32] <graft> lucent: i shouldn't have to work around it, it's one of the most basic features of a window system
[05:32] <glebihan> zacstone: to get to a root login shell, type "sudo -i"
[05:32] <Ken8521> RRU_Sciguy: it's not really difficult(though not advised) to run nautilus w/ root priv.
[05:32] <RRU_Sciguy> graft: oh yeah, that IS annoying....
[05:32] <sunny1> Anyone know how to change trackpad right click settings...didn't find it under "Mouse"
[05:32] <lucent> graft: you're behaving rudely?
[05:32] <histo> !usb | AxionStile
[05:32] <AxionStile> Almoxarife my issues are various lol (thanks Jo, histo, etc)
[05:32] <AxionStile> Ah yes
[05:32] <AxionStile> I can look to see if it can boot up the usb upon turning the comp on
[05:32] <gnushitweasel> Has anyone here done a netboot before
[05:32] <gnushitweasel> ?
[05:32] <graft> lucent: i don't think so, i'm just stating my view
[05:33] <AxionStile> I just want ubuntu to load before windows auto loads :)
[05:33] <histo> AxionStile: but there is more involved than just putting an iso on cd.
[05:33] <RRU_Sciguy> Ken8521, I never do anything unless I know what it is Im doing
[05:33] <Ken8521> gnushitweasel: not w/ ubuntu, but i assume theirs is like Debian, which i've done many times
[05:33] <histo> AxionStile: that page will describe it
[05:33] <zaya> RRU_Sciguy technically windows 7 runs more like "admin" rather "root" because the system itself locks you out of a lot
[05:33] <AxionStile> Histo: I know, sorta :( I didnt have much problems in windows all tha toften but you are correct I'm sure
[05:33] <AxionStile> I'll check it :)
[05:33] <lucent> graft: no, you are being rude to me. I don't like it, and so if you want help with your problem I will ignore you and let anyone else help you. Good luck with that.
[05:33] <Cityscape> I have a Nvidia Vanta graphics card, what is the proper way to install the best driver for it?
[05:33] <zacstone> a sec
[05:33] <Ken8521> RRU_Sciguy: well, thats good.. my point is, calling up a file browser w/ root priv, if thats what you want, is not that difficult... my real point, the issue is him, not sudo.
[05:34] <RRU_Sciguy> Ken8521, true
[05:34] <AxionStile> Brb, reading :)
[05:34] <mattcodes> should I really be running an AV. I worry about leaks thru web sites, given I have adobe flash plugin (a necessity) and silverlight (again a necessity for vids I watch), that these could be used to execute system damaging code?
[05:34] <histo> Cityscape: system > admin > hardware drivers
[05:34] <hDy> how can i disable screen locking when my screen goes blank?
[05:34] <Cityscape> histo: it doesn't list any drivers for me.
[05:34] <gnushitweasel> That's what i really don't like about windows. I don't mind so much that it costs money, but i hate feeling like i have limited control over my own computer
[05:34] <histo> Cityscape: hrm..
[05:35] <Ken8521> gnushitweasel: well let it get a virus, then yuo can have no control
[05:35] <histo> Cityscape: let me check something
[05:35] <Ken8521> lol
[05:35] <deryl> you know you CAN disable all the lockdown stuff in windows vista and 7 right?
[05:35] <lucent> mattcodes: worse, your browser can be used to create a reverse tunnel back into your system from any open web browser and a 1x1 pixel iframe... proven.
[05:35] <gnushitweasel> You really have limited control to begin with, and that's what bothers me
[05:35] <RRU_Sciguy> Cityscape: then it probably has found an open source/free driver that works fine
[05:35] <geist> interesting. whatever is weding it up is also wedging up ssh. ssh logins dont complete after doing the initial handshake
[05:35] <lucent> mattcodes: possible attack vectors are default router passwords, the use of Flash by default, Silverlight, and Java
[05:35] <x1337x> I'm using a rails app to execute a shell script that opens Xvfb and I need to be able to execute subsequent commands in the script, but Xvfb hangs the shell (you have to ctrl-c to quit Xvfb)
[05:36] <histo> Cityscape: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:36] <AxionStile> I may actually just use a live usb creator?
[05:36] <mattcodes> lucent, security is a concern for me. what would you do to prevent, router passwords are cryptic
[05:36] <Lint01> can I use portage with ubuntu?
[05:36] <x1337x> Is there a way to script it in it's own shell? Or necessary?
[05:36] <zipp0> how can i config permission for user to connect to samba server?
[05:36] <Ken8521> AxionStile: you may have better luck than me, but using USB creator a while ago, w/ a Live ISO I just downloaded from Ubuntu.com  the installer would not start, kept getting some strange error.
[05:36] <histo> !samba > zipp0
[05:36] <lsoderman> I want to completely reinstall ubuntu from CD or USB, but I think the exosting Debian boot loader is interfering with the install. I can't see the hd once I get to "Install". Any ideas on how to overwrite the existing Debian?
[05:36] <mattcodes> would anyone recommend the alternative flash plugins instead?
[05:37] <gnushitweasel> Lint, i imagine you could with a LOT of configuration, but it'd probably be easier to install gentoo
[05:37] <x1337x> I guess that's more of a general linux question
[05:37] <mattcodes> monolight is open source so I feel a bit more comfortable with that
[05:37] <x1337x> Maybe #linux
[05:37] <lucent> mattcodes: I use Ubuntu with reckless abandon and connect to unprotected public wifi networks, maybe you need to ask a security expert and not an Ubuntu help channel
[05:37] <KB1JWQ> ##linux rather.
[05:37] <mattcodes> I dont think i need java (at least not for applet support)
[05:37] <histo> mattcodes: the one from adobe. Google flash squared
[05:37] <Ken8521> lsoderman: thats very unlikely the debian install is doing that(or at least it never has for me)...
[05:37] <zipp0> histo: i setup connection for Mac user to connect to the server via smb://
[05:37] <Ken8521> lsoderman: if you boot the live CD, can you view the drive in Gparted?
[05:37] <RRU_Sciguy> mattcodes, i have heard that the adobe flash player is less resource intensive than the open source ones
[05:37] <zipp0> histo: but he cannot modify some directory
[05:37] <AxionStile> MMkay :)
[05:37] <lsoderman> Nope - but if I let it boot to the original Debian it's fine.
[05:38] <glebihan> x1337x: I guess putting a "&" at the end of the command should solve your problem
[05:38] <histo> zipp0: then you need to give him write access to the share in the smb.conf
[05:38] <zipp0> histo: so how can i config permission for that user on the server?
[05:38] <zacstone> ...
[05:38] <deryl> rru_sciguy ~ depends. the 32bit on a 64bit machine is muchmore intensive than the 64bit beta of flash square for 64bit machines
[05:38] <deryl> proved that today
[05:38] <graft> mattcodes: moonlight and flash are completely different
[05:38] <Ken8521> lsoderman: somehow i doubt highly debian has anything to do w/ that.
[05:38] <histo> zipp0: that page will explain the share needs to be writeable.
[05:38] <graft> mattcodes: if you want flash to work, i suggest using the adobe plugin
[05:38] <zipp0> histo: thanks :)
[05:39] <lsoderman> Ken8521 - Could it be because the original partition is the entire drive?
[05:39] <rww> gnushitweasel: Can you change your nick, please? This channel's designated as family-friendly.
[05:39] <graft> mattcodes: it's unlikely to be a serious security risk
[05:39] <mattcodes> graft, I meant im comfortable with moonlight installed as its is open source and miguel is a fing genius
[05:39] <Cityscape> histo: will that work for me? The version number for my card's driver at the Nvidia site is 71.86.14. My version number isn't listed on that page you linked to me.
[05:39] <gnushitweasel> Sure
[05:39] <Ken8521> lsoderman: maybe burn and boot a parted magic CD?.. delete the debian partitions, then boot the ubuntu CD... problem is, if there's actually a problem w/ Ubuntu detecting your drive, your hosed at that point
[05:39] <luftikuss> man update-dlocatedb: "update-dlocatedb generates a plain text package contents listing dlocate from the files /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list ." I do not understand this sentence: What does update-dlocatedb generate?
[05:39] <RRU_Sciguy> deryl, that's obvious. But I just have 32 bit pcs, so i dont really look into the 64 bit stuff
[05:39] <graft> mattcodes: ah, never mind
[05:39] <gnuspitferret> better?
[05:39] <rww> gnuspitferret: yes
[05:39] <deryl> rru_sciguy ~ well actually its not obvious, but in your case the 64bit would do nothing for you so..
[05:39] <gnuspitferret> lol
[05:39]  * lucent notes that it does not appear the nick profanity was malicious
[05:39] <rww> mattcodes: I've used the various Flash plugin alternatives. Haven't had much luck :(
[05:39] <mattcodes> first few days away from windows as a desktop and I have to admit im loving it
[05:39] <histo> Cityscape: the binary driver will work for your card.
[05:40] <lsoderman> Ken8521 - don't mind wiping the drive, there's nothing on it of import.
[05:40] <Cityscape> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511374/   Is this worth it?
[05:41] <histo> Cityscape: did you get the link from ubottu?
[05:41] <Ken8521> lsoderman: well, lif you don't mind, thats what i would try.. boot a Gparted or partedmagic live CD, format disk, then boot the ubuntu disk.. of course, really Gparted should see the drive under Ubuntu.. strange
[05:41] <aaron_> mattcodes: I think your issue might be one of firewall not of av software, someone please comment on this.  Both are available. I have Avast! free av for Linux, but have never found anything interesting on my installs with it.
[05:41] <histo> !nvidia > Cityscape
[05:41] <RRU_Sciguy> deryl, im a bit of a techie, and I know that two different instruction sets/word sizes arent gonna be efficiently cross compatible
[05:41] <zacstone> how do i define a root system
[05:41] <histo> zacstone: what do you mean?
[05:41] <gnuspitferret> zacstone, what do you mean?
[05:41] <RRU_Sciguy> deryl, at any rate... back to helping the others :)
[05:42] <lsoderman> Ken8521 - yeah, it's confusing. Was thinking of going into Debian first and changing the partition first, to see if that changes things.
[05:42] <AxionStile> With a live cd.. is it possible to just install ubuntu alone? does it give the option to wipe a partition (or more) off the hd and just install a clean Ubuntu alone with no windows or dualboot all together?
[05:42] <Guest48769> 10.10 remix help. I'm getting both the old remix interface and the new one thats more like a tool bar on the side, how do I turn off the old interface?
[05:42] <zipp0> histo: i write in smb.conf http://pastie.org/1214617 . Please tell me is that right?
[05:42] <zacstone> i cant install ubuntu. it said it cant define a root
[05:42] <Cityscape> histo: sorry, I dissconected.....did you see the link i sent you?
[05:42] <lsoderman> Ken8521 - where can I get gparted? Will have to dl to laptop and burn disc
[05:42] <Ken8521> lsoderman: like from a debian Live CD?... i doubt Debian is going to let you change a partition it's mounted on and using
[05:42] <RRU_Sciguy> zacstone: hmmmm..... are you writing over everything?
[05:42] <topper> @Axion yes you can install ubuntu alone with livecd
[05:42] <geist> hrm. if i boot in recovery it boots up like a champ
[05:43] <histo> zipp0: yeah but it looks like its commented out with #
[05:43] <AxionStile> Awesome
[05:43] <allen_> Puppy comes with gparted on it
[05:43] <zacstone> im on andriod irc
[05:43] <allen_> Puppy Linux*
[05:43] <histo> zipp0: there is also #samba for more specific help with samba
[05:43] <histo> Cityscape: yes did you get a private message from ubottu
[05:43] <Ken8521> lsoderman: i always use parted magic.. the partition tool is Gparted but it has some more interesting tools than Gparted.. http://partedmagic.com/
[05:43] <glebihan> Ken8521: the ubuntu live CD comes with gparted on it
[05:43] <histo> !nvidia > Cityscape
[05:43] <zacstone> trying to get ubuntu to make a root so i can install it to dual boot with windows i installed
[05:43] <Ken8521> glebihan: i'm well aware of that
[05:44] <lsoderman> Ken8521 - sorry, don't know what I was thinking. I'll try partedmagic and see if I can fix it.
[05:44] <glebihan> Ken8521: sorry was for lsoderman
[05:44] <Moral_> What kernel does 10.10 use
[05:44] <histo> zacstone: you need free space on your drive to install ubuntu to.
[05:44] <Ken8521> glebihan: he is well aware of it also. you might want to read the entire conversation
[05:44] <histo> !dualboot > zacstone
[05:44] <rww> Moral_: 2.6.35
[05:44] <RRU_Sciguy> 0.o LOL ubotto doesnt know anything about itself XD
[05:44] <Moral_> rww, thank you
[05:44] <lsoderman> glebihan - gparted doesn't see the hard drive partition
[05:44] <zacstone> i havr 800 gb of free space
[05:45] <allen_> Hi, I'm trying to triple boot Vista, Ubuntu, and Fedora. How do I set up a third partition for ubuntu? I have unallocated space, but Ubuntu says it can't be put on there.
[05:45] <geist> lucent: you're right. nosmp seems to fix it
[05:45] <Ken8521> lsoderman: and we are talking aout gparted on a Live CD, right?
[05:45] <zipp0> histo: thanks :) i'll check it with user
[05:45] <histo> zacstone: un partitioned space
[05:45] <denisubuntu> hi ,how is best linux distribution for netbooks?
[05:45] <histo> zacstone: check out the private message from ubottu
[05:45] <histo> !best | denisubuntu
[05:45] <Ken8521> denisubuntu: best is really subjective
[05:45] <histo> denisubuntu: ubuntu has a netbook version
[05:46] <lsoderman> Ken8521 - yup - tried from both CD and USB. Both boot, but gparted doesn't see it, and there is no HDx entries in /dev
[05:46] <Ken8521> cough, that sucks, cough.
[05:46] <RRU_Sciguy> allen_, there is a limit as to how many partitions you can have on a drive
[05:46] <Ken8521> lsoderman: that is just weird
[05:46] <geist> ah no, something is still hosed. seems the whole system is wedging up for about 5 seconds at a time, then unwedges for a second, then back
[05:46] <geist> console, graphics, over ssh, etc
[05:46] <Ken8521> lsoderman: have you had ubuntu on that machine before... or is this machine extremely new or extremely old?
[05:46] <allen_> RRU_Sciguy, right, that's what I thought. But I have heard of people triple booting.
[05:46] <denisubuntu> i know i play with ubuntu remix but ,i dont like
[05:46] <deryl> wow powersmokin that cig spun my head hehe
[05:47] <glebihan> allen_: you only have 2 partitions right now ?
[05:47] <histo> denisubuntu: perhaps ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <deryl> allen_ ~ i was for quite some time
[05:47] <RRU_Sciguy> allen_, it would be possible through multiple harddrives
[05:47] <allen_> So far I have 6 partitions.
[05:47] <lsoderman> Ken8521 - older machine, has debian, but this is the first ubuntu install
[05:47] <deryl> win, ubuntu, and fbsd
[05:47] <Cityscape> histo: yes i did. so this is my best option?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:47] <denisubuntu> i need speed not efects
[05:47] <glebihan> allen_: ok then you probably have reached the limit, solutions would be several hard drives or the use of extended partitions
[05:47] <deryl> 6? 3 primary and 1 extended with logicals correct?
[05:48] <Ken8521> lsoderman: hmm... seems really unlikely since debian is recognizing it... but i wonder if ubuntu just doesn't recognize whatever hard drive controller it's using?
[05:48] <histo> Cityscape: yes I would follow those directions.
[05:48] <poena> hi folks, looks like there have been some install issues with asus netbook architecture, anyone know if there's a workaround yet? I'm looking forward to trying out maverick...
[05:48] <lsoderman> I would agree, but it's seeing the IDE CDROM fine, so I don't think that's it.
[05:48] <allen_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/511381/
[05:48] <deryl> finally! desktop dvd finished downloading. time to reinstall
[05:48] <allen_> my partitions so far
[05:49] <allen_> 1 partition is already extended
[05:49] <histo> sudo reboot
[05:49] <Ken8521> lsoderman: yeah, thats true.... didn't really think of that.. unelss the hard drive is plugged into a sata controller
[05:49] <histo> ughh sry wrong window
[05:49] <denisubuntu> can i run ubuntu server in my netbook?
[05:49] <glebihan> allen_: where's the empty space located ?
[05:49] <kismet> hi I have an problem with dual screen on my laptop.
[05:49] <Ken8521> denisubuntu: i don't see why not..
[05:49] <RRU_Sciguy> allen_. im on a laptop and have reached the partition limit with just windows (hp recovery partition) so I installed ubuntu on a 30GB VHD through Wubi
[05:49] <deryl> denisubuntu ~ you can run any of the task-oriented as long as your hardware is supported
[05:50] <lsoderman> Ken8521 - nope. Same cable. They were originally set for M/S, but thought that might be a problem, so switched them both to C/S - no change.
[05:50] <deryl> standard desktop, server, netbook
[05:50] <allen_> It's not empty yet.  Thanks though
[05:50] <deryl> rru_sciguy ~ ahh didn't just delete the recovery since the recoveery dvd set remakes those?
[05:50] <glebihan> allen_: well as this is a logical partition, it should work
[05:50] <deryl> (I'm on an HP CA61)
[05:51] <deryl> errr CQ61
[05:51] <Guest48769> 10.10 remix help. I'm getting both the old remix interface and the new one thats more like a tool bar on the side, how do I turn off the old interface?
[05:51] <blastodon> I cannot get samba shares to work with a crossover cable at all can anyone help me.  I am simply trying to transfer files from my laptop which is running opensuse 11.3 BUT the files are on the windows partition
[05:51] <kismet> hi I have an problem with dual screen on my laptop. compiz won't work with it. anyone might have a suggestion
[05:51] <allen_> ok. So I use gparted to cut it in half. Then leave it unallocated, or what?
[05:51] <denisubuntu> remix is sucks
[05:51] <RRU_Sciguy> deryl: nope, cant afford to order set (dont think they sell them, couldnt find them), and I cant make them
[05:52] <deryl> rru_sciguy ~ oh the laptop doesn't have a DVD burner in it? or did you already make the set and lose it
[05:52] <glebihan> allen_: yes you can do that that way, and select this empty space when installing your third system
[05:52] <geist> hrm, didn't work this time with nosmp. must have been a fluke the last time. some sort of race condition
[05:52] <blastodon> i always get this cannot mount location error
[05:52] <RRU_Sciguy> deryl: it won't LET me make a set, never made them before, spent days trying to do so
[05:52] <allen_> ok, I will try it again, I'll let you guys know what Happens
[05:52] <allen_> Thanks
[05:53] <denisubuntu> linux needs os oriented to netbooks
[05:53] <deryl> rru_sciguy ~ wow, its a bit off topic but what would it say? just bomb the burns or what
[05:53] <denisubuntu> i sure
[05:53] <allen_> I should leave the mount point as /, right?
[05:53] <luftikuss> man update-dlocatedb: "update-dlocatedb generates a plain text package contents listing dlocate from the files /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list ." I do not understand this sentence: What does update-dlocatedb generate?
[05:53] <glebihan> allen_: yes
[05:53] <gantrixx> Is there a way to launch the Unity desktop from the GNOME desktop?
[05:54] <glebihan> gantrixx: not from gnome, but from gdm yes
[05:54] <blastodon> anyone a samba expert this shit is driving me crazy
[05:54] <gantrixx> I just get a purple gradient screen when I launch it from GDM
[05:54] <allen_> Will I have to partition it from a live cd, since I'm mounted right now?
[05:54] <glebihan> allen_: yes that's the best way to do it
[05:55] <RRU_Sciguy> deryl: I did manage to install it to the drive once (not sure how) but started getting a message about corrupted mem. Checked the mem, OK. kept happening. Uninstalled Ubuntu, stopped getting the error. And the the option just didnt exist!
[05:55] <woodyjlw> do I need to install XFree86-Mesa-libGL  for ubuntu 10.10 before ati driver install?
[05:55] <allen_> kk, thanks
[05:55] <deryl> rru_sciguy ~ damn! that IS weird
[05:55] <RRU_Sciguy> deryl: tryed everything from google to create the disks short of 3rd party soft
[05:56] <deryl> rru_sciguy ~ but you're right you'd ahve to order a set. they sell them but you have to call them for it
[05:56] <deryl> rru_sciguy ~ not available as an online SKU
[05:56] <Cityscape> histo: so I followed the first step (removing nouveau by command line). Then it asked to open additional drivers, so I did and there still are no drivers available. So I moved to the next step, I have linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic, linux-headers-2.6.35-22, linux-headers-generic & linux-libc-dev (development headers) installed. I could not find the linux-restricted-modules-XXX package in synaptic. What now?
[05:57] <denisubuntu> ubuntu 10.10 is stable i am workings in my laptop
[05:57] <histo> Cityscape: linxu-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:57] <RRU_Sciguy> deryl, Ill just stick to a 30GB Wubi installation of 10.10.  works fine, and I can always save to the host drive if I run outta room
[05:57] <gantrixx> This is weird.  When I try to login with a Netbook session, I get a purple screen and a mouse pointer, but nothing else
[05:57] <Susanna> Hi there, I updated netboox remix to 10.10 but update process has been cancelled in between. Managed to reinstall the rest, but I guess I need to reconfigure a few components
[05:57] <Susanna> I cannot see the panel
[05:57] <deryl> rru_sciguy ~ good plan :)
[05:58] <Susanna> Neither has any of the windows a border and title bar
[05:58] <Susanna> I reconfigured metacity, but no success
[05:58] <gantrixx> Susanna, I have the same problem I think
[05:58] <Susanna> gantrixx: You solved it?
[05:58] <histo> Cityscape: basically install build-essentials and download the appropriate driver from nvidia.com  then run the script that you download. It will walk you through the install.
[05:58] <Cityscape> histo: i search for "linux-restricted-modules" in synaptic and it found nothing.
[05:58] <gantrixx> No, I'm just now trying to figure out what the problem is
[05:58] <gantrixx> Susanna, do you get nothing but a purple screen and a mouse pointer?
[05:59] <gantrixx> Is everyone having this problem?
[05:59] <RRU_Sciguy> Susanna. id suggest burning a CD and trying a fresh installation after backup of important data
[05:59] <Cityscape> histo: so you mean to use the manual driver from nvidia?
[05:59] <glebihan> gantrixx: no it works fine with me
[05:59] <denisubuntu> sussana netbook remix is sucks beeter ubuntu 10.10
[05:59] <hossanTech_> hossanpass
[05:59] <gantrixx> Susanna, did you upgrade using the Update Manager?
[06:00] <bjp> is there a way in the 10.10 install to just use free space?  the option seems to be missing
[06:00] <Susanna> gantrixx: in the first place yes, but ran into heaps of space issues
[06:00] <gantrixx> I didn't run into any space issues
[06:00] <Susanna> I propose an easy apt-get upgrade
[06:00] <RRU_Sciguy> bjp, just click the install along side option. believe it was there as a button
[06:00] <RP64> guys im having a huge problem
[06:01] <RP64> i just installed KDE over my ubuntu, to make it Kubuntu, everythings working fine except it can't connect to my internet for some reason
[06:01] <geist> wow, this is really starting to look like a hardware problem
[06:01] <Susanna> gantrixx: Ok, I found out that when playing with the Themes I get the windows title bar back
[06:01] <RRU_Sciguy> RP46: huh....
[06:01] <geist> though strange it showed up exactly as i did a 10.10 upgrade
[06:01] <RP64> i have wireless and my gnome ubuntu connects to it easily, but my kubuntu finds and asks me for password for my wireless, but it asked me some weird stuff about a k-wallet or something and i kept cancelling it, now it can't use internet
[06:01] <geist> now the kernel is just wedging up at random spots in boot, even in recovery
[06:01] <Susanna> gantrixx: I see more that what you see
[06:01] <gantrixx> Susanna, I have nothing to play with
[06:01] <kismet> hi I have an problem with dual screen on my laptop. compiz won't work with it. anyone might have a suggestion
[06:01] <Susanna> gantrixx: can you start a console?
[06:01] <RP64> RRU_Sciguy:  and like, now it sees and asks me for password for my wireless, i select and enter it, but internet isnt' working
[06:01] <gantrixx> just a mouse pointer
[06:01] <deryl> rp64 ~ kubuntu stores the wifi pass in a kwallet
[06:02] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: just save your password in the K-wallet
[06:02] <deryl> rp64 ~ tell it yes and let it store it and it will allow the connection
[06:02] <glebihan> RP64: k-wallet is the equivalent of gnome-keyring I think, it stores your passwords
[06:02] <Susanna> gantrixx: try ctrl+alt+F1 or F2
[06:02] <RP64> deryl:  well now it doesn't ask me for a kwallet
[06:02] <RP64> i disabled the k-wallet
[06:02] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: it's just an application that stores the passwords.
[06:02] <RP64> how do I re-enable it?
[06:02] <Susanna> gantrixx: you see a console?
[06:02] <GabrielYYZ> anyone has a problem doing a ping with network tools? (though ping works fine via terminal)
[06:02] <RP64> also, when it was asking me, it was asking me for a password to OPEN my k-walet, and I didnt even set it up before
[06:02] <gantrixx> Susanna, nope, doesn't work
[06:02] <Pr3nt1c3> 10.04 is quite different
[06:02] <Pr3nt1c3> the dev's did a great job
[06:03] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: you set it on the first time it opens.
[06:03] <RP64> help guys this is bad!! it was asking me for a password to open my k-wallet, but I never set up a k-wallet before so I disabled the k-wallet
[06:03] <peepsalot> so i upgraded my laptop to maverick and now i can't get into X.  looks like my nvidia drivers are broken.  should I try an older version?
[06:03] <RP64> Joe so what should I do?
[06:03] <deryl> listen to joemavericksett
[06:03] <peepsalot> i have a quadro fx 880,
[06:03] <peepsalot> 880m
[06:03] <Susanna> gantrixx: well mate, than I'm sorry. You could try to boot it in safe-mode?!
[06:03] <RP64> JoeMaverickSett:  wat should I do man? now my k-wallet's disabled do you know how to re-enable it
[06:03] <Pr3nt1c3> RP64,  you'll need to re-enable kwallet, and I think it's your default admin password
[06:03] <gantrixx> Susanna, I can login to the GNOME desktop just fine
[06:03] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: just log off and back in and do those steps agian.
[06:03] <RP64> Pr3nt1c3:  do you know how
[06:03] <Pr3nt1c3> I use gnome
[06:03] <GabrielYYZ> i guess no one does, so i'm the one with the "unpingable" network tools
[06:04] <RP64> JoeMaverickSett:  i have and it doesn't ask anymore cus i disabled teh k-wallet
[06:04] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: try typing K-wallet in the search bar?
[06:04] <TeslaTony> How can I check which version of Ubuntu I'm running? Also, do I have to do anything in particular to go from 10.10 Beta to 10.10 official?
[06:04] <glebihan> gantrixx: just as a test, from inside gnome, run "mutter --replace"
[06:04] <deryl> telslsb_release -a
[06:04] <deryl> err teslatony lsb_release -a
[06:04] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: i don't use KDE but it enabled it when i tried it so, there was no issue like yours.
[06:04] <rww> !final | TeslaTony
[06:04] <gantrixx> what is mutter?
[06:04] <RP64> JoeMaverickSett:  thx!!!
[06:04] <gantrixx> it says it's not currently installed
[06:05] <RP64> JoeMaverickSett:  now how do I set its password?
[06:05] <glebihan> gantrixx: that's weird cause mutter is unity's window manager...
[06:05] <frooh> ok, after reinstalling everything is perfect
[06:05] <gantrixx> well that could be the problem
[06:05] <RP64> JoeMaverickSett:  it asks me for my wallet password, and I enter my login but it doesn't work
[06:05] <frooh> not sure what the problem was
[06:05] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: just type what you want it to set it. it's the mai password that will store all other passwords, so i'd go with your admin password.
[06:05] <gp5st> what's the "best" way to disable swap completly? just remove the entry from/etc/fstab?
[06:05] <bytesaber> bit confused by ubuntus software raid txt installer.    I have Four 1.5TB drives.   I wish to make a Raid5.    It's asking me how many drives to make active and how many to make spare but keeps giving me a red flag.
[06:05] <frooh> thanks for talking me through it guys :-)(
[06:05] <deryl> frooh ~ ati or nvidea card?
[06:05] <glebihan> gantrixx: sudo apt-get installl mutter
[06:05] <luftikuss> man update-dlocatedb: "update-dlocatedb generates a plain text package contents listing dlocate from the files /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list ." I do not understand this sentence: What does update-dlocatedb generate?
[06:06] <TeslaTony> deryl, rww : Thanks. That helps immensely
[06:06] <Susanna> glebihan: Ah, that could be my issue as well, thought it is metacity
[06:06] <deryl> teslatony ~ yep
[06:06] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: oh? how's that possible? I wouldn't know..
[06:06] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: try #kubuntu
[06:06] <rww> gp5st: yes. You can then use swapoff to deactivate the swap without restarting.
[06:06] <glebihan> Susanna: let me know if it solves you issue
[06:06] <RP64> JoeMaverickSett:  how do I connect to my wireless? its weird it sees the wireless and is "activating" on it but it doesnt work
[06:06] <AxionStile> That worked great Nate :)
[06:06] <frooh> deryl: ati
[06:06] <AxionStile> Thanks again
[06:06] <AxionStile> and to the rest of you guys
[06:07] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok peeps  how do i configure my hibernation on karamic?
[06:07] <Eryn_1983_FL> i cant find any  info
[06:07] <Susanna> glebihan: Will do
[06:07] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: try #kubuntu that's the best you got for kubuntu.
[06:07] <frooh> deryl: though I haven't installed the proprietary drivers
[06:07] <frooh> deryl: it seems to work fine without them for now, so I may skip it for a while
[06:07] <deryl> frooh ~ awesome. that was my big worry. that the ATI card would again cause a proble,m had that with 10.04 installer
[06:07] <gp5st> cool, thanks rww
[06:07] <deryl> frooh ~ yeah til you try to play movies or something
[06:07] <RP64_> WORKS NOW NVM! THX EVERYONE!
[06:07] <frooh> deryl: eh, this laptop is pretty underpowered
[06:08] <frooh> deryl: I don't do that kind of stuff on it
[06:08] <deryl> ahh
[06:08] <deryl> well, my burn just finished so.. off to install 10.10 (again)
[06:08] <frooh> deryl: just edit perl and browse the web :-)
[06:08] <JoeMaverickSett> RP64: you got it?
[06:08] <deryl> frooh ~ hehe
[06:08] <deryl> ok i'm off
[06:08] <Susanna> glebihan: Wait a sec. What if I don't want unity? I heard that it needs hardware acceleration
[06:09] <glebihan> Susanna: well, UNE uses unity, if you don't want unity, you're probably looking for UDE
[06:09] <gantrixx> OK, I installed mutter.  Now I get a "No required driver detected for unity" error
[06:10] <Susanna> glebihan: Ah, ok, I thought there is an alternative. Btw. mutter was not installed on netbook
[06:10] <poena> hi folks, looks like there have been some install issues with asus netbook architecture, anyone know if there's a workaround yet? I'm looking forward to trying out maverick...
[06:10] <JoeMaverickSett> !details | poena
[06:10] <croto> hey everybody! Anybody know a workaround for the empathy-gtalk invisibility problem?
[06:10] <poena> ok hang on, let me re-state
[06:10] <KB1JWQ> croto: Using irssi with bitlbee.
[06:10] <KB1JWQ> (hey, valid workaround!)
[06:11] <blakkheim> or finch/pidgin
[06:11] <croto> ok.... I was afraid I had to change the default chat software
[06:11] <croto> will it integrate with ubuntu as well as empathy?
[06:11] <Susanna> glebihan, gantrixx : Ok, I see the windows title bar again. That is a progress.
[06:12] <Susanna> glebihan: Do you know how to get the panel bar as well?
[06:12] <Susanna> glebihan: disappeared after the update
[06:14] <glebihan> Susanna: I'm looking, I don't know what's the panel app for unity
[06:14] <infid> where can i download libstdc++5? http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/i386/libstdc++5/download isn't working
[06:15] <xangua> Susanna: gnome-panel
[06:15] <infid> oh wait now it is
[06:15] <denisubuntu> other thing...i use windows  for my ipod in ubuntu not works..it's really bad
[06:15] <JoeMaverickSett> infid: have you tried the synaptic package manager?
[06:15] <xangua> !panels
[06:15] <xangua> and to restore it to default
[06:15] <Susanna> xangua: I tried to reconfigure this one already. Nothing :(
[06:15] <allen_> Im back
[06:15] <JoeMaverickSett> denisubuntu: what does not work? i also do have an ipod it works well.
[06:16] <glebihan> xangua: does unity use gnome-panel ?
[06:16] <allen_> gparted isnt letting me resize the partition, im on a live cd right now
[06:16] <xangua> glebihan: yes
[06:16] <histo> allen_: what is it saying
[06:16] <glebihan> allen_: unmount your swap partition
[06:16] <PhrostyB> hey yall!
[06:16] <PhrostyB> anyone know how to remove the email icon from system tray and still keep volume icon?
[06:17] <glebihan> Susanna: did you try starting gnome-panel ?
[06:17] <danes_> hello, how can I get the wireless card to work in a hp mini 1000?
[06:17] <allen_> is unmount "swapoff"?
[06:17] <glebihan> allen_: yes
[06:17] <JoeMaverickSett> !details | danes_
[06:17] <PhrostyB> yeah
[06:17] <Susanna> glebihan, ubottu: I could let it appear by starting it out of the terminal
[06:17] <allen_> ok, that works
[06:17] <Susanna> of course it get closed as soon as the terminal is closed
[06:18] <Susanna> I'll try to reboot
[06:18] <Mohan_chml> danes_: yoou got some errors or.. you tried first?
[06:18] <glebihan> Susanna: ok let me know
[06:18] <poena> I have a problem with [installing 10.10], currently running [10.04 but is irrelevant as I'm not getting to the install point]. When I try to install I get one of two errors depending upon what I use to build the USB flash install. It hangs at "SYSLINUX 3.86 2010-04-01 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al"
[06:18] <allen_> now, will I want to resize the extended partition, or the partition within the extended one?
[06:18] <danes_> I am having problems with my wireless card on ubuntu 10.04 for netbooks on a HP mini 1000. It is not working and the LED is lighting up orange, as if it were off. Pressing the button does nothing...
[06:18] <glebihan> allen_: the one within the extended one
[06:18] <poena> theres another error i get if i use a different usb flash build, hang on its going to take me a sec to give you exactly what it says. netbook is an asus 900A
[06:18] <denisubuntu> i don't know  my ipod not work in rhythmbox now
[06:19] <PhrostyB> you guys know how to remove the email icon from trya without removing the volume icon as well?
[06:19] <JoeMaverickSett> poena: i think you should format the usb and make the start up disk again?
[06:20] <PhrostyB> if anyone can help me please let me know
[06:20] <poena> i've tried using two separate programs to create the flash, i get two separate errors and have tried multiple times on each. I've even tried re-downloading the iso to no avail.
[06:20] <allen_> kk, it's partitioning it/Thanks
[06:20] <denisubuntu> the problem of linux is programs
[06:20] <glebihan> PhrostyB: you can remove it and run "gnome-volume-control-applet" instead (add this to your startup apps)
[06:20] <JoeMaverickSett> poena: what errors did you get? please state it, so that others can also help out.
[06:20] <PhrostyB> startup apps huh
[06:21] <glebihan> PhrostyB: System->Preferences->Startup applications
[06:21] <codexl> hi
[06:21] <codexl> :D
[06:21] <luftikuss> man update-dlocatedb: "update-dlocatedb generates a plain text package contents listing dlocate from the files /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list ." I do not understand this sentence: What does update-dlocatedb generate?
[06:21] <PhrostyB> i kinda wish i still had the linux mint menu :\
[06:21] <allen_> I never liked the mint menu :/ It was to bulky
[06:21] <JoeMaverickSett> poena: if your error it too long, past it in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:21] <PhrostyB> ok thanks glebihan
[06:21] <Susanna> glebihan, ubottu : Ok,  reboot the computer, but panel is still not there. Where do I need to add it. Startup applications? Can't imagine that this is the usual way?
[06:21] <poena> OK hang on, give me a second I will post the errors
[06:22] <bribroder> hey guys, I'm having trouble getting my raid array to mount after reinstalling. I get a cryptic error message saying that not enough components are available. Anyone know what I can do?
[06:22] <glebihan> Susanna: well this should work, but you're right, this is not the normal way
[06:22] <glebihan> Susanna: btw, ubottu is a bot ;)
[06:22] <Lint01> how to increase resolution on OKULAR?
[06:22] <denisubuntu> linux need itunes!
[06:23] <poena> lol no that is the last thing linux needs
[06:23] <glebihan> Susanna: well as a matter of fact, it may be the normal way with unity...
[06:23] <poena> itunes = garbage
[06:23] <Susanna> glebihan: 'btw, ubottu is a bot' OH
[06:23] <JoeMaverickSett> denisubuntu: you could try Banshee or Rhythmbox before saying that. :)
[06:23] <Mohan_chml> denisubuntu: you can try Rythmbox and Banshee
[06:23] <Mohan_chml> Ohai Joe
[06:23] <glebihan> denisubuntu: rhythmbox is a lot itunes-alike
[06:23] <denisubuntu> itunes is beeter
[06:24] <Susanna> glebihan: Well that I'll do that. Thanks a lot for your help!
[06:24] <glebihan> Susanna: you're welcome
[06:24] <Mohan_chml> denisubuntu: you tried Rythmbox?
[06:24] <poena> itunes is awful
[06:24] <poena> how you're using itunes and linux is kind of mind-boggling
[06:24] <poena> or looking to
[06:25] <JoeMaverickSett> denisubuntu: in stead of saying that give rhythmbox and banshee a go, you will like it. ;)
[06:25] <PhrostyB> hey glebihan i just took a look at gnome volume applet and the indicator applet.. they're a little bit different :]
[06:25] <denisubuntu> mohan yes i don't like exaile ,banshee and rythmbox
[06:25] <glebihan> denisubuntu: plus, if you fill like an application is missing some feature, you can always make a feature request to the development team
[06:26] <PhrostyB> did you notice that?
[06:26] <PhrostyB> :]
[06:26] <Mohan_chml> denisubuntu: Strange. you don't like the appearance or the whole application?
[06:26] <glebihan> PhrostyB: you're right, they're different, but I don't think you can just remove the mail applet from indicator
[06:26]  * Mohan_chml is a big fan of Rythmbox compared to itunes
[06:27] <denisubuntu> yes i see
[06:27] <GabrielYYZ> rhythmbox could get a better GUI, imo
[06:27] <PhrostyB> that's kinda lame.. i don't want a mail indicator... :[
[06:27] <Lint01> glebihan, and wait for 6-10 years for it to be implemented
[06:27] <greezmunkey> *Q* How do I access grub2 on boot? Is it Esc?
[06:27] <PhrostyB> i think i might go back to linux mint once mint 10 is released
[06:28] <glebihan> Lint01: this depends on the app, I myself do some development and feature requests sometimes get implemented in a few weeks
[06:28] <xangua> PhrostyB: try removing indicator-me
[06:28] <Mohan_chml> greezmunkey: yes and any reason for loading grub?
[06:28] <xangua> or indicator-messages maybe, don't remember
[06:28] <PhrostyB> removing indicator-me?
[06:28] <PhrostyB> how do i go about that?
[06:28] <xangua> sudo apt-get remove