[00:00] <Synthead> but thanks
[00:00] <Synthead> anyway, might edit /etc/default/grub cause there's logic I didn't expect in grub.cfg
[00:00] <jarkinox> change it from 2 to 30?
[00:00] <Synthead> I think update-grub will generate a new grub.cfg (run it as root)
[00:00] <Synthead> sure
[00:01] <Synthead> then reboot and see if your drive is recognized
[00:01] <jarkinox> so what I pasted you didn’t expect?
[00:01] <Synthead> heh, yeah, I was expecting just a set timeout=n in there
[00:02] <Synthead> line 90 is probably what you'd change, but changing that would be a bit of a hack with that logic wrapped around it imo
[00:02] <Synthead> oh, while you're acquainted to that timeout in grub.cfg, you might check if /etc/default/grub and update-grub actually changes that timeout valie on line 90
[00:02] <Synthead> value
[00:03] <jarkinox> in /etc/default/grub it’s line 9
[00:03] <Synthead> GRUB_TIMEOUT, yeah?
[00:03] <jarkinox> i was just going to change /etc/default/grub
[00:03] <Synthead> yeah, change that file, then run sudo update-grub
[00:04] <Synthead> without running update-grub, grub.cfg will not be changed and for this scope, there would be no changes to how your system boots
[00:05] <Synthead> tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if your HDD is recognized after this
[00:05] <jarkinox> then reboot?
[00:06] <Synthead> did you run update-grub yet?
[00:06] <jarkinox> yup
[00:06] <Synthead> was that line changed in /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[00:06] <jarkinox> woops, didn’t check :)
[00:06] <jarkinox> too late
[00:06] <Synthead> hahaha
[00:06] <Synthead> it probably was :)
[00:06] <jarkinox> i’m super reckless
[00:06] <Synthead> nah
[00:07] <Synthead> it's your box without any HA apps, right?
[00:07] <jarkinox> high availability?
[00:07] <Synthead> ah crap, google.com is down! where do you work again?  I am not responsible!
[00:07] <Synthead> hehe
[00:07] <jarkinox> yeah it’s mine.  cobwebs inside and everything
[00:07] <Synthead> yeah
[00:07] <Synthead> yeah you're good
[00:08] <Synthead> prepare for an ungodly 28 extra seconds!
[00:08] <jarkinox> seriously
[00:08] <jarkinox> this is torture
[00:08] <Synthead> I saw you should boot grub from a floppy
[00:08] <Synthead> maybe a zip disk
[00:09] <jarkinox> no dice
[00:10] <Synthead> still not recognized?
[00:10] <jarkinox> nope
[00:11] <Synthead> ah, shucks
[00:11] <Synthead> might put that timeout back ;)
[00:11] <jarkinox> grub.cfg does show timeout = 30
[00:11] <jarkinox> so that worked, but that’s it
[00:11] <Synthead> yeah this stuff didn't fix it
[00:11] <Synthead> hm
[00:11] <jarkinox> no worries Synthead
[00:11] <jarkinox> thanks for the help though
[00:12] <Synthead> still thinking about your issue
[00:13] <jarkinox> i read somewhere messing with fstab might be the trick
[00:13] <jarkinox> know about that?
[00:13] <Synthead> jarkinox: well, the issue seems to be at a lower level than that
[00:13] <Synthead> fstab just affects present disks
[00:14] <Synthead> your disk isn't recognized yet
[00:14] <Synthead> what about https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1081842#p1081842 ?
[00:14] <Synthead> you might be able to add usb-storage.delay_use=5 (or something higher) to your kernel options
[00:15] <TJ-> jarkinox: does the external enclosure have its own power supply?
[00:15] <Synthead> looks like you can add it to modprobe.d too
[00:16] <Synthead> jarkinox: what if you did this?  echo "options usb_storage delay_use=5" > /etc/modprobe.d/usb-storage-delay.conf
[00:16] <Synthead> jarkinox: you'd have to run this as root (not sudo)
[00:17] <Synthead> jarkinox: sudo -i will get you in as root
[00:17] <Synthead> jarkinox: after touching that file (and setting grub's timeout back to what it was), try rebooting and checking again
[00:19] <jarkinox> TJ: It does have it’s own power supply
[00:20] <jarkinox> Synthead: I’ll need to digest what you posted
[00:20] <TJ-> jarkinox: that device is known to have a problem; it's the additional enclosure device that causes the issue
[00:20] <Synthead> TJ-: it's going to be a permanent install on this box and his mobo has only usb 2
[00:20] <jarkinox> yeah I had a problem with it from the very beginning because it’s 3tb and was partitioned using GUID
[00:21] <Synthead> jarkinox: basically, via that file, you'd be telling the linux kernel to wait for 5 seconds before giving up detecting this drive
[00:21] <jarkinox> i’m fine with it if the device itself is the problem
[00:21] <Synthead> jarkinox: it defaults to 1 second.  might experiment with something silly, like 30, just to ensure that this isn't the issue
[00:22] <jarkinox> i was just pissed i couldn’t configure it properly when my toshiba hdd was working fine
[00:22] <jarkinox> i’ll try that
[00:22] <jarkinox> later though.  It’s time for my hourly daytime beer :)
[00:24] <Synthead> hehe
[00:24] <Synthead> jarkinox: good luck, and enjoy :)
[00:24] <jarkinox> thanks Synthead.  really appreciate it
[00:25] <Synthead> jarkinox: if this is too much of a headache, ripping out the HDD from that enclosure and attaching it via SATA will almost certainly make it work
[00:25] <Synthead> jarkinox: you're welcome!
[08:46] <freeroute> hi, suppose I want to give a local domain name (like cabbage.carrot) to a local machine running 14.04. Would the first part of this answer apply to me too? http://askubuntu.com/a/190954
[08:46] <freeroute> (also is cabbage.carrot an FQDN or an unqualified one?)
[09:04] <RoyK> freeroute: it'll be your fqdn
[09:04] <RoyK> freeroute: that is, if cabbage is your hostname
[09:05] <RoyK> fqdn == hostname.domain
[09:05] <RoyK> as in myhost.subdom.dom.tld
[09:05] <RoyK> or something like that
[09:05] <RoyK> freeroute: most use .local for the tld if it's locl
[09:19] <freeroute> RoyK: as I see, so if I simply edit the /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, restart the service and all local machines will be able to reach the machine when they type http://cabbage.carrot? Or do I have to somewhere make a DNS server?
[09:19] <freeroute> *ah
[09:28] <RoyK> you need dns
[09:28] <RoyK> or hardcoded things in /etc/hosts
[09:28] <RoyK> for each client
[09:35] <freeroute> ooh ok.
[09:35] <freeroute> cool, thanks :)
[09:36] <sorin-mihai> I have 3 servers with only one NIC, accesible over the internet, that I want to use as kvm hosts to make some sort of LAN of VMs then use the VMs to learn more about OpenStack. what is the faster aproach to this kind of setup?
[09:43] <RoyK> just use bridging
[09:43] <RoyK> if you want them in a cluster, you'll need shared storage of some kind
[09:44] <RoyK> nfs is the easiest
[09:44] <RoyK> and you'll want corosync etc to avoid starting the same vm two places
[09:45] <RoyK> sorin-mihai: local or shared storage?
[09:47] <sorin-mihai> RoyK, I'm kinda new at this... each server has it's own storage
[09:47] <RoyK> sorin-mihai: do you want to run them separately or as a cluster?
[09:48] <sorin-mihai> now I only have the latest ubuntu installed, and I think that a cluster ov VMs would do. I don't think MaaS installed on hardware would help, since I don't have enough servers
[09:49] <RoyK> sorin-mihai: perhaps try #virt @ irc.oftc.net
[09:50] <RoyK> sorin-mihai: setting up a kvm cluster isn't too hard, but if you're new at this, it might take a while studying how it works
[09:50] <sorin-mihai> MaaS would work for a cluster of VMs for a PoC?
[09:50] <RoyK> MaaS doesn't have anything to do with the cluster config
[09:52] <sorin-mihai> I think that if I get a kvm cluster with 9 VMs then I can go on with the MaaS stuff. or is it too much overhead?
[09:53] <sorin-mihai> something like kvm cluster > MaaS > Autopilot > OpenStack
[10:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:47] <Club-Mate> hello everybody, I am planning to set up a homeserver and thought about using ubuntu-server. I hope someone can answer me a few question
[13:47] <lordievader> Club-Mate: Go ahead, ask ;)
[13:49] <Club-Mate> Ok thanks, if you choosed Ubuntu-Server, why did you as there are other Linux alternatives that would probably do I good job too.
[13:54] <rbasak> I think what matters most if you're getting started is how you're going to get help.
[13:54] <rbasak> If you have a friend who loves Gentoo and will help you, get started with Gentoo. Etc.
[13:55] <rbasak> If you dont' have anyone local, then consider how you'll get help on the Internet generally.
[13:56] <rbasak> Ubuntu Server is the most popular distro for homeserver use I think. Certainly one of the top ones. So that means that you're more likely to find help on the Internet when you need it. Included direct help for your problems as well as general guides on how to do things.
[13:57] <lordievader> Club-Mate: Ubuntu/Debian are easy to get going. I personally run Gentoo on my homeserver. But we usually go with Debian/Ubuntu since they are easy and well known.
[14:07] <Club-Mate> Thanks. If I want to use certain services like OwnCloud, can I simply install them from the official repositories or do I have to download them from the Developer's website to get the latest version? A PPA would be an easy alternative to repository?
[14:08] <flarunt> you could use a docker container
[14:35] <patdk-lap> the only way you can get latest, in a distro, is fedora probably, and likely gentoo
[14:36] <patdk-lap> or you forget the distro, and install it yourself, from the source
[15:41] <han420> I'm logging into a ubuntu server used for LAMP that hasn't been maintained for years. What are some basic things to check other than apt-get updates?
[15:43] <TJ-> han420: are you concerned about potential compromise of the server?
[15:46] <han420> there are no signs of that that I can see, but I'd like to start by looking for them
[15:48] <han420> or checking if everything's normal - is there some standard procedures? some logs to look at?
[15:49] <TJ-> han420: well, if the logs aren't compromised, they're all under /var/log/  'auth.log'
[15:50] <rbasak> I would take the server offline and take a snapshot using a known uncompromised machine.
[15:50] <TJ-> han420: if you're at all concerned then take it offline, mount its file-systems on another host, and use some rootkit scannera
[15:50] <rbasak> Then compare everything on the filesystem against what Ubuntu shipped in packages.
[15:51] <rbasak> And account for all differences.
[15:52] <TJ-> han420: original file MD5 hashes per-package can be found under /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.md5sums (using a known good host of course)
[15:52] <rbasak> Finally update it while it's still offline.
[15:53] <rbasak> I don't consider MD5 good enough for checking that. Use SHA1 at least. SHA2 preferably. Or just do a byte-for-byte comparison as you'll have to calculate hashes anyway.
[16:01] <han420> Thank you, I'll look into it
[16:17] <YamakasY> is there some alternative for dell openmanager ?
[16:17] <YamakasY> I think it uses too much resources ?
[16:53] <Walex2> YamakasY: the only source for Dell OpenManager is Dell....
[16:54] <YamakasY> Walex2: alternative != source
[17:54] <Pap00se> how do u add modify user accounts on proftpd in ubuntu, please point me to a guide either via ftp commands or via ssh terminal
[18:08] <Pap00se> how do u add modify user accounts on proftpd in ubuntu, please point me to a guide either via ftp commands or via ssh terminal
[18:30] <jak2000> i have 1 nic, inserted one more (a second) nic, but ifconfig only see 1
[18:31] <jak2000> http://pastebin.com/aSc1S7bC
[18:54] <Walex2> jak2000: 'lspci'
[18:55] <Walex2> Pap00se: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/Authentication.html
[18:56] <Walex2> Pap00se: looks for "virtual users"
[18:57] <Walex2> Pap00se: and in particular 'mod_auth_file'
[18:57] <Walex2> Pap00se: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/modules/mod_auth_file.html
[18:59] <Walex2> Pap00se: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/faq/faq_full.html#AEN699
[19:01] <patdk-wk> Walex2, dunno if that would help at all
[19:01] <patdk-wk> he wanted to modify user accounts for it, but we don't know what he is using for user accounts
[19:01] <patdk-wk> if it is system/pam/file/ldap/sql/...
[19:01] <patdk-wk> proftpd supports a lot of different user systems
[19:01] <Walex2> patdk-wk: that is part of the documentation for almost all of them :-)
[19:02]  * patdk-wk also wonders why he wants a guide, and not documentation :)
[19:03] <jak2000> Walex2: http://pastebin.com/aSc1S7bC
[19:03] <jak2000> how to enable the second eth?
[19:06] <bekks> jak2000: The same way as you enable the first one.
[19:06] <bekks> jak2000: ifconfig only shows active interfaces, ifconfig -a shows all interfaces.
[19:06] <jak2000> ok edit the
[19:06] <patdk-wk> ifconfig shouldn't be used at all
[19:06] <bekks> jak2000: How did you configure your first nic - using /etc/netwok/interfaces?
[19:07] <jak2000> interfaces file right?
[19:07] <jak2000> yes
[19:07] <Walex2> jak2000: note line 19
[19:07] <bekks> Then configure the second nic in there, too.
[19:08] <jak2000> bekks how to rstart network service?
[19:08] <bekks> jak2000: Depends on the ubuntu release.
[19:09] <patdk-wk> you don't
[19:09] <jak2000> 14.04
[19:09] <patdk-wk> use the ifup/down commands
[19:10] <jak2000> bekks patdk-lap: http://pastie.org/10641935
[19:10] <patdk-wk> your missing the auto line
[19:11] <patdk-wk> why is there a gateway on it?
[19:11] <patdk-wk> only one interface should have a gateway defined, or your just asking for problems
[19:12] <jak2000> removed...
[19:12] <jak2000> done
[19:13] <jak2000> not know why answer the ping
[19:13] <jak2000> but answer the ping :)
[19:50] <Pap00se> thanks walex
[20:59] <PryMar56> checking out a new VPS with 15.04 on VZ. There is no apache2 unit in list-unit-files. Is this normal when we are handed the VPS already setup?
[21:00] <PryMar56> oh, see I got wise by asking the ques. Its in /etc/rc2.d
[21:32] <spaok> hello
[23:50] <pmatulis> hello