[03:38] <Jucato> I do. USB Bluetooth dongle and a Nokia 6600
[03:39] <Jucato> and they both work fine. just checked more than an hour ago
[03:39] <slyfox> Jucato: do you use Kmobile tools ?
[03:39] <Jucato> ah no. not that...
[03:39] <slyfox> Jucato: can you please tell me your step to connect ?
[03:40] <Jucato> w/ kmobiletools? or just plain pairing of devices?
[03:41] <slyfox> Jucato: Well, first of all, what do you use if not Kmobile tools? My problem is that in Kmobiel tools - bluetooth wizard sees my phone and when I press next, it searches for my phone supported services and it just stops there with 52% CPU use and that is it. I have to kill the process. Just Kbluetooth works as I can enter my phone and browse files fine. But there is no way I can somehow manage my phonebook and
[03:41] <slyfox> calendar.. What do you do ?
[03:42] <sorush20> can I get to use protein explorer in ubuntu pdb viewer
[03:42] <Jucato> slyfox: I only pair my phone and my pc to transfer files... that's all
[03:43] <slyfox> Jucato: this sucks. I really wanted to sync my Korganizer with my phone.
[03:43] <Jucato> so the problem might actually be in kmobiletools if you can use plain bluetooth just fine
[03:43] <slyfox> Jucato: can you please see if you can use Kmobile tools ?
[03:43] <Jucato> ok I'll try
[03:44] <dal1> is there any startup script that runs as root i can append to?
[03:44] <dal1> like a init.d thing
[03:44] <slyfox> Jucato: Can it be, because I got kmobiel tools from here: http://www.kmobiletools.org/downloads and it was the latest verison, but for Kubuntu Depper ?
[03:44] <Jucato> slyfox: ah you're on dapper? I'm on Edgy
[03:45] <slyfox> Jucato: I am also on Edgy
[03:45] <Jucato> ah
[03:52] <slyfox> Jucato: How is it going?
[03:52] <Jucato> slyfox: I don't even know how to connect the two using kmobiletools... I can pair my phone just fine w/ my pc using BT... but I'm not familiar with kmobile
[03:53] <slyfox> Jucato: did you download the latest package?
[03:53] <Jucato> no. just the one from the repositories
[03:54] <Jucato> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:54] <slyfox> Jucato: In the latest package you get a wizzard which guides you. In the one from repositories, you have to specify the phone location n the devices
[03:54] <Jucato> ok let me try
[03:55] <genii> Well, just messing around trying to do a straight dist-upgrade from breezy to feisty I somehow ended up with only memtest as an option to boot ROFL
[03:55] <Jucato> genii: simply because you can't/shouldn't
[03:55] <genii> Good thing I have a CD
[03:55] <genii> Jucato Well, it was an experiment :)
[03:56] <Jucato> well at least now you know better
[03:56] <Jucato> and can advise others not to do it, even as an experiment :P
[03:56] <genii> :)
[03:58] <z0di4k> I am running Xorg 7.1.1 on kUbuntu Edgy.  I have 3 monitors setup.  The first 2 are on a PCI-E nVidia GeForce 6600GT using proprietary nVidia drivers, the third is on a PCI Riva TnT2 using the nv driver.  The first time I run xorg every day, when I put the mouse on the third monitor xorg crashes.  I restart it, and it is stable all day long.  I can use the third monitor fine.  Any ideas?
[04:00] <slyfox> Jucato: any news?
[04:00] <Jucato> hm...
[04:01] <Jucato> well, I can connect fine
[04:01] <Jucato> nothing hangs up...
[04:02] <slyfox> Jucato: with what? with kmobile tools?
[04:02] <Jucato> yes. the 0.5.0- beta version
[04:02] <slyfox> Jucato: how did you specify the device location ?! What is it ?
[04:02] <slyfox> Jucato: ah beta
[04:02] <Jucato> Current testing version: KMobileTools 0.5.0 beta1
[04:02] <Jucato> that one from the download page you gave
[04:02] <slyfox> Jucato: so Kmobile tools finds your phone and when you click next it finds the services your phone supports ?
[04:03] <Jucato> yes
[04:03] <slyfox> Jucato: Did you install from Debina Kubuntu Dapper ?
[04:03] <Jucato> yes
[04:03] <slyfox> Jucato: do you have kbluetooth running before you can use kmobile tools?
[04:04] <Jucato> no. but of course I have the usb dongle connected
[04:04] <Jucato> Find Services takes a while, but it shows up
[04:05] <abattoir> doesn't kmobiletools now have that bluetooth pairing wizard?
[04:05] <Jucato> not the one in the repos
[04:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[04:05] <abattoir> hi BluesKaj :)
[04:05] <Jucato> edgy repos only has <IP_ADDRESS>. the one with the pairing wizard is 0.5.0-beta1
[04:05] <slyfox> Jucato: a while? how long for you ?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> hi abattoir, Jucato
[04:05] <Jucato> hi BluesKaj
[04:06] <Jucato> slyfox: not more than 2 minutes iirc
[04:06] <xsacha> is it legal to connect to someones wireless network and steal their net service if it isnt passworded?
[04:06] <slyfox> Jucato: ok, lets see waht I will get, it is still searching fro services
[04:06] <abattoir> xsacha: in most places it's illegal
[04:06] <BluesKaj> yup xsacha
[04:07] <ubuntu_> hi johny_ & all you guys i return so..
[04:07] <xsacha> is it legal to login to their router and mess with their settings if they are using the default password (eg. smcadmin)
[04:07] <Jucato> not only illegal, but also immoral (stealing)
[04:07] <xsacha> i just checked default password smc networks on google and it's smcadmin and.. yep it works
[04:07] <abattoir> xsacha: that's even more of a crime :)
[04:08] <BluesKaj> yes, xsacha ...do you really think that's ok ?
[04:08] <ubuntu_> i repeat my problem..now i chating from kubuntu live..
[04:08] <BluesKaj> get yer own router , xsacha
[04:08] <xsacha> it's a windows network and they have all these shared docs.. pictures, deposits, university, resumes, world of warcraft, etc
[04:08] <xsacha> is it legal to look through those?
[04:08] <xsacha> i have a router
[04:09] <z0di4k> xsacha: It is actually a very solid grey area.  Rulings have gone both ways lately on legality of "borrowing" internet services.  Lately the trend is towards it being illegal.  Logging in to their router to change stuff is definitely over the legal line.
[04:09] <akrus_> someone to help with compiz?
[04:09] <johny_> ubuntu_: nothing to do do with passwd?
[04:09] <stdin> xsacha: it's illegal to gain access to a computer system without prior permission
[04:09] <slyfox> Jucato: did you right click on the .deb and selecte install ?
[04:09] <z0di4k> arkus_: What are you trying to do?
[04:09] <Jucato> slyfox: yes
[04:09] <xsacha> stdin: doesnt having no password give permission? :(
[04:09] <BluesKaj> well xsacha , if you do this , don't say you haven't been warned !
[04:10] <akrus> z0di4k: actually compiz starts, effects working, but no window decorations at all
[04:10] <akrus> so no title & borders
[04:10] <Jucato> !compiz | akrus
[04:10] <ubotu> akrus: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:10] <z0di4k> arkus: Like leaving your door unlocked gives me permission to rummage through your stuff?
[04:10] <abattoir> xsacha: of course not
[04:10] <stdin> xsacha: no, to gain access to a system (passwordless or not) without permission is defined in law as cracking (or, less correctly, hacking)
[04:10] <akrus> ?
[04:10] <ubuntu_> yesterday all works fine.today i start kubuntu but i stay firm in login window so i don't see initializing devices ... & other
[04:10] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:11] <Jucato> not only is this discussion offtopic, it's also bordering on very shaky legal matters, so please take it somewhere else
[04:11] <xsacha> but what about if it's not my fault? this software automatically connects to their router instead of mine
[04:11] <xsacha> ok
[04:12] <ubuntu_>  <johny_>:nothing.I'tsnot a pass problem i'ts a
[04:12] <BluesKaj> xsacha, did it ever occur to you, that open network could be a honeypot set up to catch and prosecute ppl who use the network without registering for permission ?
[04:12] <ubuntu_> problem next login
[04:12] <xsacha> nup
[04:13] <ubuntu_> i can login in non graph shell. But kde not start
[04:13] <slyfox> Jucato: crap, it just searches forever
[04:13] <z0di4k> xsacha: I personally don't have major issues with using open access points.  I let people use mine all the time.  Just don't be a retard and run bittorent when using somebody else's access point.  *notice I said personally, not legally.  I have seen cases that go both ways on stealing vs. borrowing internet access.
[04:13] <Jucato> slyfox: :(
[04:13] <johny_> ubuntu_: what's error it is giving you?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> z0di4k, don't encourage him
[04:14] <ubuntu_>  <johny_>:understed?
[04:14] <johny_> ubuntu_: what you mean?
[04:14] <ubuntu_>  <johny_> :No errors
[04:15] <johny_> ubuntu_: you said KDE doesn't start, so what happens when it should start?
[04:16] <ubuntu_> simply login window go i expect initializing window & i see black and next the same login window
 ubuntu_: you said KDE doesn't start, so what happens when it should start?:exactly
[04:17] <johny_> maybe try to run KDE from terminal, know how?
[04:17] <ubuntu_> how can start kde from a shell?
[04:18] <johny_> ubuntu_: w8 a min
[04:18] <ubuntu_> ok :-))
[04:19] <|kosmo|> hi somone
[04:19] <johny_> try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm/start
[04:19] <|kosmo|> i put aa new hardisk in my computer
[04:19] <|kosmo|> how i can mount it
[04:19] <|kosmo|> ?
[04:19] <johny_> ubuntu_: try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm/start
[04:20] <johny_> Can someone help this guy (ubuntu_), I'm new to Linux?
[04:20] <HymnToLife> johny_, that won't start KDE directly but KDM
[04:20] <stdin> johny_: you mean "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" ? (notice the space)
[04:21] <johny_> HymnToLife: yeah
[04:21] <HymnToLife> ubuntu_, try kdestart
[04:22] <ubuntu_>  <johny_>:ok i try  &hope chat from my home
[04:22] <HymnToLife> that wil start a KDE session without the need to login through KDM - since you're already logged in
[04:22] <johny_> ubuntu_: wait
[04:22] <johny_> ubuntu_: There are others trying to help, watch
you know if from login menu one can chat?
[04:23] <johny_> ubuntu_: I think it's possible from the shell, having an IRC terminal client installed
how?
[04:24] <johny_> ubuntu_: "Hymn to life" said to you - "try kderestart"
[04:24] <oier> hello every1
[04:24] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell ubuntu_ about irssi | ubuntu_, see the private message from ubotu.
[04:24] <johny_> HymnToLife: thanks
[04:25] <oier> could someone help me
[04:25] <johny_> I'm a beginner so watch me carefully -:)
[04:25] <oier> i can't install an old version of java
[04:26] <oier> i suppose it must be done manually, not through synaptic
[04:26] <oier> i have xtracted the .bin files
[04:27] <ubuntu_> tnx guys you'r beautifull ;-))
[04:27] <oier> and i can get java started if i type ./java in that folder
[04:27] <oier> but the system doesn't know about its existence
[04:28] <Jucato> oier: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:28] <Jucato> oier: then select the version of java you want as default
[04:28] <oier> aham
[04:28] <oier> i'll try
[04:30] <cotui> gracia
[04:30] <oier> i found as an alternative to java v.6 the gij-wrapper-4.1  I don't know what it is, but I'll have a look
[04:30] <oier> thx
[04:30] <slyfox> Jucato: http://www.kmobiletools.org/node/285
[04:30] <slyfox> Jucato: that is my problem
[04:30] <Jucato> slyfox: maybe because mine is a nokia...
[04:32] <oier> mmm I'm getting some more errors with this version of java.
[04:33] <oier> do you know how to install a java1.5.00xx.bin extracted file?
[04:34] <Jucato> oier: you have java 1.6 (sun-java6-bin) installed? try removing it, then install java 1.5? (sun-java5-bin)
[04:35] <oier> yeh, i did it as u say
[04:35] <oier> ok i'll do it again
[04:37] <slyfox> Jucato: :) Yeah, Nokia is the best.
[04:38] <slyfox> Jucato: What do you use to organize yourself? I am just curious. As in windows I used online tools - Google Calendar, Rememebr the milk and TiddlyWiki. What do you use in linux? FOr To Do, Calednar and notes ?
[04:38] <Jucato> slyfox: Kontact/Korganizer... but I don't sync w/ my phone
[04:38] <Jucato> I rarely go out/away anyway
[04:42] <oier> ok I uninstalled it and now when I type sudo update-alternatives --config java it says there is no java
[04:44] <oier> I have also extracted the files from the java1.5.00xxx.bin file
[04:45] <oier> but the system ignores this info,
[04:48] <genii> phprojekt is good . I use it for extensive organising
[04:48] <johny_> ubuntu_: still there?
[04:49] <oier> how could I install other way java 1.5?
[04:49] <vyoman> oier: you can download the JDK from SUN and follow the install instructions, don't forget to set JAVA_HOME
[04:50] <vyoman> oier:  alternatively you can use APT and set the default VM as described above
[04:50] <johny_> ubuntu_: try to go on thi channel #kde
[04:52] <jackson> does anybody what plugins do i need for to play 'ape' music files? cheers
[04:55] <ForgeAus> hey all
[04:55] <slyfox> what is the commend to change my name in irc ?
[04:56] <genii> slyfox /nick newname
[04:56] <slyfox> Thanks
[04:56] <jackson> to play 'ape' files what plugin would i need? thx
[04:56] <ForgeAus> !pcsx2
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcsx2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <ForgeAus> !pcsx
[04:56] <ubotu> pcsx: Sony PlayStation emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.699df-rc3-1 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 40 kB
[04:57] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell jackson about repeat | jackson, see the private message from ubotu.
[04:57] <ForgeAus> has anyone tried to build PCSX2 in Kubuntu?
[04:57] <jackson> thanx
[05:00] <genii> Nope, but mame runs fine :)
[05:02] <ForgeAus> hehe genii I can use mame
[05:02] <ForgeAus> but I have a PCSX2 .iso I want to try
[05:02] <ForgeAus> sorry PS2 .iso I want to try in PCSX2
[05:02] <ForgeAus> but I can't seem to install it
[05:02] <ForgeAus> because I don't know all this technical stuff about building programs
[05:02] <genii> Ah, no help then
[05:03] <ForgeAus> strangely enough PCSX is no problem its even in ubuntu repositories
[05:03] <ForgeAus> I'm sure if I already had a binary it'd work ok! its just getting the binary out of it!
[05:04] <ForgeAus> btw Mame is awesome
[05:04] <genii> Yeah it's an oldie but goodie
[05:04] <ForgeAus> but theres a few things I'd like to try in other emulators that make doesn't/cant do
[05:04] <ForgeAus> like 1 : sega saturns fighters megamix
[05:04] <ForgeAus> and 2 : Capcom vs SNK2 (PS2 or Arcade)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> i always hated those kind of games...
[05:05] <ForgeAus> hehe I love vs fighting games but then everyone's different
[05:05] <Dr_willis> FrozenBubble Rules..
[05:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:05] <ForgeAus> frozen bubble is quite good actually I tried it!
[05:05] <ForgeAus> I was impressed!
[05:05] <Dr_willis> Fizzball is fun. but its comercial.
[05:06] <ForgeAus> sure its no puzzle bubble but its the next best thing I seen out there
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Of course ya can always go the emulator route. and have oooooodles of games.
[05:06] <ForgeAus> (interestingly enough I actually prefer puxxle bobble 3 arcade or puzzle bobble/bust-a-move on SNES!)
[05:06] <ForgeAus> I already do have most capcom/neogeo games
[05:06] <ForgeAus> beacuse I actually use/play them!
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Yea - i got a large collection of games.. that i never play
[05:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:07] <h3sp4wn> I play metalslug
[05:13] <ForgeAus> anything capcom and street fighter 2 -related I've had a go at
[05:13] <ForgeAus> (except the latest Capcom fighting jam sofar)
[05:13] <ForgeAus> I suck at all things sf3 too unfortunately...
[05:13] <ForgeAus> looking to get that emulated on PC too (from either PCSX2 or if a CPS3 emulator comes out)
[05:13] <ForgeAus> I doubt I'll ever be good at that game tho
[05:13] <ForgeAus> just doesn't seem to mesh with me very well like the alpha games do... or vs ones
[05:14] <genii> There used to be this macos game I played for hours on end... lemmings   it was freaking hypnotic
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Lemmings is out for many other os/machines
[05:16] <Dr_willis> go get the Amiga emulator and the amiga version.
[05:16] <testman> hi folks
[05:16] <Dr_willis> or dosbox and track down some dos versions. :)
[05:16] <testman> how can i adjust the autostart settings when a audio cd is put into the cdrom?
[05:16] <genii> heh :) tempting but I'll sit for hours and not get any work done
[05:19] <Dr_willis> genii,  the reason computers were invented
[05:19] <Dr_willis> testman,  adjust what settings exactly?
[05:21] <testman> Dr_willis: you know, the menu that pops up when you put in a cd? i dont get this anymore because i clicked the 'do this everytime'-checkbox, but now i want that popup back
[05:21] <Dr_willis> I cant rember the last time i ever put in an audio cd... other then to Rip it to MP3.
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> ForgeAus: The only good one is streetfighter 2 turbo (jap)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> ive seen some checkbox/auto-start settings somewhere...
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> ForgeAus: (unless there is another one with a decent difficulty level I don't know about)
[05:22] <testman> Dr_willis: i searched the whole kcontrol config menus etc but with no luck
[05:22] <Dr_willis> I belive they may be Konqueror settings.
[05:24] <pixelation> Is there a good kde program for finding duplicate or near-duplicate mp3's?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Ive seen some programs that can find Duplicate... but neer near-duplicate. :)
[05:25] <Dr_willis> never.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> that would be a nifty trick.
[05:25] <BluesKaj> pixelation, amule
[05:25] <pixelation> there used to be windows shareware that did that, it was awesome, you could speicify 70% match, or whatever.
[05:25] <pixelation> thanks BuesKaj
[05:25] <Dr_willis> but which one to keep.. :)
[05:26] <BluesKaj> some of the same mp3s have been renamed but one can see by the similar ize
[05:26] <Dr_willis> it would suck if it kept the one with 30% static in the middle.
[05:26] <BluesKaj> size
[05:26] <pixelation> it even put the best quality one on top, so just delete the ones below it... told ya it was good... hrm, maybe wine.
[05:26] <h3sp4wn> bigger is not always best quality
[05:27] <Dr_willis> the tools people need when they collect 10000000gb of mp3's :)
[05:27] <pixelation> yeah but it is a factor in near-duplicates.
[05:27] <pixelation> lol
[05:27] <pixelation> I'm a neat freak.
[05:28] <BluesKaj> nope , not always but if you look at the details, the bit rate is usually indicated
[05:29] <Raffy> we
[05:29] <daniellq> alguna girl
[05:29] <BluesKaj> I don't understand this wine thing...if ya wanna run windows programs use windows :)
[05:30] <ForgeAus> that depends on the app
[05:30] <ForgeAus> some run fine under wine
[05:30] <ForgeAus> but yeah windows apps I'd recommend to use windows if you have it
[05:30] <pixelation> I love wine personally, and you know it's only gunna get better.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> actually the last wine i used... dident run the programs that the OLDER wine used to run...
[05:31] <BluesKaj> depends on the vintage :)
[05:31] <Dr_willis> but that may of been just a fluke
[05:31] <pixelation> but, I don't have windows.
[05:31] <ForgeAus> yup pixel can't wait for better win2k infrastructure in it
[05:31] <ForgeAus> if they go that way
[05:31] <ForgeAus> (or even a XP-like 98 subsystem
[05:31] <pixelation> yeah. I just want my software to run on it. :-P
[05:31] <ForgeAus> exactly
[05:32] <BluesKaj> what's word on Vista written programs in wine ?
[05:32] <ForgeAus> BluesKaj, I wouldn't even think about it
[05:32] <BluesKaj> hehe
[05:32] <ForgeAus> way to early to consider something like that
[05:32] <pixelation> they say it's safe to run regseeker... not anymore... it deleted my fonts and made everything unreadable.
[05:32] <ForgeAus> some may work anyway... but I wouldn't EXPECT any to
[05:32] <ForgeAus> regseeker?
[05:33] <pixelation> yeah... but... I probably shouldn't try and clean it or anything, cause it's not windows.
[05:33] <BluesKaj> what's the best place to put the *.exe folders in wine ?
[05:33] <genii> We need some virtual windoze machine to run installers and so on in and just reverse engineer what calls the dlls make and so on
[05:33] <nihil_sum> Is there a good Linux IDE for SQL, perhaps similar to Query Analyzer or SQL Management Studio on Windows?
[05:34] <ForgeAus> I wonder if theres a way to combine cedega and cxoffice and wine into one rather than 3 windows subsystems!
[05:34] <nihil_sum> Don't forget mono.
[05:34] <ForgeAus> mono is awesome
[05:34] <cntb> intelikey ?
[05:34] <ForgeAus> (but monodevelop needs some more work for winforms
[05:34] <ForgeAus> you can add it but no documentation/designer
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> No use for mono by me
[05:35] <cntb> migrating issue mkinitramfs anyone familiar with that ?
[05:35] <pixelation> I was watching cartoon network last night, and they showed a paragraph, I just caught the last sentence and it was "like the windoze kids" lol
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> (too slow)
[05:35] <ForgeAus> winforms and boo should be awesome
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> cntb: migrating from what to what ?
[05:35] <BluesKaj> what' mono , another Virtual type prog
[05:35] <BluesKaj> ?
[05:35] <ForgeAus> no
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> Microsofts .NET basically for linux I want nothing to do with it
[05:35] <ForgeAus> mono is a linux impementation of  .NET framework
[05:35] <cntb> h3sp4wn: hardware migrating
[05:35] <BluesKaj> viryual oS rather
[05:36] <BluesKaj> oh
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> cntb: How does that involve mkinitramfs ?
[05:36] <hatta> and .net is microsofts implementation of ???
[05:36] <cntb> h3sp4wn: from sda (sata ) to hda (PATA)
[05:36] <nihil_sum> Microsoft's own standard.
[05:36] <ForgeAus> theres another one of them from gnu (portable .NET)
[05:36] <cntb> that is edgy with wondows (dual booted h3sp4wn
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> cntb: using uuid's and default ubuntu kernel ?
[05:36] <hatta> I've never heard a good answer to the question "what is .net and why do I want it"
[05:37] <ForgeAus> .net is microsofts implementation of a common language runtime...
[05:37] <cntb> boot stops at busy box
[05:37] <ForgeAus> almost like a virtual machine in some ways tho
[05:37] <cntb> (initramfs) prompt h3sp4wn. know what todo in that case ?
[05:37] <Alzi2> Hey. I was just wondering, what is the option of 'be like macintosh' in KDE like? I don't want to ruin my current interface, so i can't try out. I'll maybe do it, if anyone tells me what it's like, please.
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> did you edit the boot line to change it to hda ?
[05:37] <cntb> kernel is generic
[05:37] <genii> The uuids in fstab cause headaches when you have to do a grub reinstall
[05:37] <Dr_willis> how about - 'why did this program install .net 1.1 and then this other program wanted 2.2 ?'
[05:37] <Dr_willis> genii,  :) heh heh
[05:38] <ForgeAus> lol Dr Willis thats the problem
[05:38] <cntb> h3sp4wn: i have handy knoppix 4 and ubuntuboootable alternateCd install
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> genii: why ? grub uses hd0 type syntax
[05:38] <ForgeAus> they don't stick with it, they keep making extras that blow out the economy of a single framework
[05:38] <Dr_willis> 'why does this 6k program need 20mb of runtime stuff...'
[05:38] <cntb> h3sp4wn: pls explainq. using UUIDs ? in boot
[05:38] <ForgeAus> Dr willis exactly (thats kinda the point I was trying to get at)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> and WHAT IDIOT decided on the name .net ?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> that has to be the Worse name i can think of.
[05:39] <ForgeAus> lol
[05:39] <Dr_willis> I guess .PORN would be worse...
[05:39] <ForgeAus> or .SEX
[05:39] <Dr_willis> almost as bad as C#
[05:39] <ForgeAus> but I didn't say that
[05:39] <Dr_willis> just the idea of having a . in the name....
[05:39] <cntb> oh and I played editinf fstab changing sda7 to hda7 any utility to auot change sda to hda h3sp4wn ?
[05:39] <genii> h3sp4wn: I don't know why. But I helped 4 ppl with same issue. grub had to get reinstalled then it couldn't mount / til the uuid stuff in fstab got removed.
[05:39] <ForgeAus> (probably an acronym anyway lol)
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> cntb: /etc/fstab should contain uuid's either that or :%s,sda,hda,g
[05:39] <nihil_sum> It's not why does this 6kb program need 20mb of runtime, it's this 15mb program is only 6kb because it's all in the runtime.
[05:40] <ForgeAus> h3sp4wn does it HAVE to?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> then the installer keeps reinstalling. :)
[05:40] <genii> Dr_willis: I have to agree about C#
[05:40] <ForgeAus> I removed some of them when my fstab went a bit awry
[05:40] <ForgeAus> seems to work ok now
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> genii: ForgeAus Does what have to ?
[05:40] <ForgeAus> Drwillis under wine there is a way
[05:40] <cntb>  -- /etc/fstab has lots of UUID
[05:40] <Dr_willis> but what do i know... i rarely program.. im just always having to do tech support for these other idiots... :)
[05:40] <ForgeAus> (I think you need to use native msi or something and a few other tweaks but it CAN work)
[05:40] <Dr_willis> I edit my fstab to mount the drives based on LABEL. :)
[05:41] <ForgeAus> (then ontop of that there was a .NET bridge for mono)
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> That is alot more reasonable than uuid
[05:41] <ForgeAus> h3sp4wn fstab, does it have to have uuids?
[05:41] <nihil_sum> So anyway...  Is there a good (preferrably free)Linux SQL Server IDE out there comparable to Query Analyzer or SQL Management Studio?
[05:41] <ForgeAus> MySql?
[05:42] <ForgeAus> I dunno much about it tho
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> ForgeAus: Doesn't have to but the whole reason for having them is so if you change from hda to sda you don't need to change it
[05:42] <ForgeAus> theres also Postgres SQL
[05:42] <nihil_sum> I'm constrained to use Microsoft SQL Server 2005 unfortunately.
[05:42] <ForgeAus> whatever happened to PL/SQL?
[05:42] <nihil_sum> I just want a good development environment for it.
[05:42] <kkathman> PL/SQL = Oracle
[05:42] <ForgeAus> nihil just use kexi and connect to the SQL database!
[05:42] <ForgeAus> I think that works
[05:43] <nihil_sum> Kexi....  thanks.  I'll get that.
[05:43] <cntb> h3sp4wn:  in starting up an alert /dev/sda7 does not exist. droping to a shell "" is issued
[05:43] <ForgeAus> Kexi is part of Koffice
[05:43] <ForgeAus> (if I have the right app name)
[05:43] <anbuku> test
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> cntb: because you didn't edit the bootline to /dev/hda7
[05:43] <cntb> who is responsible ? h3sp4wn? initrd ?
[05:43] <Alzi2> anyone? Where can i find the Desktop Configuration Wizard that you get on first-time boot of KDE?
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> cntb: use e to the edit the bootline in grub
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Feisty Fawn - will cause SOOO much  "FUN" when it gets out...  it likes to use /dev/sd## for all the ide drives. :)
[05:44] <cntb> h3sp4wn:  e in grub?
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> cntb: that is how you edit the bootline
[05:44] <ForgeAus> oops
[05:44] <cntb> how do i switch to manual grub h3sp4wn??>
[05:44] <ForgeAus> kexi doesn't do SQL??
[05:44] <ForgeAus> it seems... does MDB's
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> cntb: I have just told you
[05:44] <nihil_sum> Doh.
[05:44] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[05:45] <cntb> e on boot time ? h3sp4wn? enough?
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> when you can choose what kernel you want to boot (maybe you have to press escape)
[05:45] <ForgeAus> ahh yes you can connect to a MySQL server with it if you make a blank db
[05:45] <ForgeAus> but I can't find MS SQL server under there
[05:45] <ForgeAus> might have plugins
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> type e and change the sda in that line to hda
[05:45] <ForgeAus> check it out
[05:45] <nihil_sum> The core functionality I'm looking for is syntax highlighting, F5 execution with results coming up in a grid or formatted text, and the capability to graphically browse tables/views/users/stored procedures.
[05:46] <cntb> OK h3sp4wn good
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> then after that is done edit the kopts line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and change it to hda also
[05:46] <ForgeAus> nihil I don't think kexi has all that
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> then run update-grub
[05:46] <nihil_sum> I wonder if I can get the Microsoft stuff to run in wine.
[05:46] <cntb> e shows me second line kernel containing wrong sda7 that was on previous system
[05:46] <ForgeAus> plus even if it did it'd just import stuff from the remote server rather than be an SQL server of its own
[05:46] <ForgeAus> (possibly has built in SQL like access tho)
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> so you change it e is to edit
[05:47] <cntb> h3sp4wn: do I edit it to be saved? and where is it saved ?
[05:47] <cntb> ty
[05:47] <nihil_sum> I have the server.  I don't need a server.  Just a client.
[05:47] <ForgeAus> ts worth a try, sqlserver (or MDSE might work)
[05:47] <genii> !info ggobi
[05:47] <ubotu> ggobi: Data visualization system for high-dimensional data. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 4887 kB, installed size 8260 kB
[05:47] <h3sp4wn> I have already told you how to change it permanently see 16:46
[05:47] <ForgeAus> genii?
[05:47] <nihil_sum> Sweet.
[05:48] <genii> ForgeAus yes?
[05:48] <cntb> h3sp4wn: that will be my first time editing grub command it is long do I write it on paper and copy  ?
[05:48] <cntb> some easy way h3sp4wn ?
[05:48] <dmial> hello! can You tell me, how I can decide problem with "fast starting" mozilla Firefox in Kubuntu (like it decided in windoze)? I think, I will load firefox as daemon at system start, it's right?
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> cntb: you just scroll with the arrow keys - there is no easier way
[05:49] <jhutchins_wk> Because an MSSQL database server is an SQL server, you can use any SQL front end with it.
[05:49] <jhutchins_wk> OOffice has one.
[05:49] <jhutchins_wk> There are others.
[05:50] <Alzi2> How to reset my panels to what they once were when i first installed KDE?
[05:51] <ForgeAus> ahh yes ooffice why didnt I think of that?
[05:51] <BluesKaj> the only thing I miss about windows is nero vision...it's still the best vdeo transcoder in my experience ...tovis does well, but isn't quite there yet ,.
[05:51] <BluesKaj> tovid
[05:51] <ForgeAus> you can get nero for linux
[05:51] <ForgeAus> prolly has nerovision in it
[05:51] <BluesKaj> yeah , but not nerovision
[05:52] <BluesKaj> I already tried it
[05:52] <dmial> Hi, people, what with firefox loading? help :-)
[05:52] <ForgeAus> yup openoffice is good (still don't see MS SQL server there... but has lots of options - ODBC might do it)
[05:52] <dmial> anybody using firefox in kubuntu?
[05:53] <ForgeAus> dmial lots of people most likely
[05:53] <ForgeAus> myself included
[05:53] <genii> dmial http://www.kde-forum.org/archive/15835/thread.html
[05:54] <ForgeAus> mono probably has ADO.NET components too
[05:54] <johey> My default gentoo package server (du.se) has turned *very* slow. Where can I find a list of other (preferrably Swedish) servers?
[05:55] <Alzi2> How to reset my panels to what they once were when i first installed KDE?
[05:55] <ForgeAus> um alzi you could reinstall!
[05:55] <ForgeAus> or manually reconfigure them
[05:56] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure that you can reset them
[05:57] <genii> Whoah just got from ubuntuforums:
[05:57] <genii> *** ATTENTION MAINTENANCE ***
[05:57] <genii> The Ubuntu Forums are currently offline while we add another CPU to our database server. We apologize and will return shortly.
[05:57] <genii> Thanks, Ubuntu-geek
[05:57] <Alzi2> How to reset my panels to what they once were when i first installed KDE?
[05:57] <jetsaredim> just installed kubuntu feisty test 3...  why are there some packages greyed out in the package manager
[05:58] <chavo> Alzi2, try moving or deleting ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[05:58] <dmial> genii thanks, but I want to load firefox on start in "hided" mode< without window opening (like in offtopic os)
[05:58] <Alzi2> thanks :)
[05:58] <chx> hi. i can't get images to print. KJobViewer says Processing.... the print led blinks, blinks forever, the printer job size is only 121 kbytes. LaserJet 6MP, with Foomatic/Postscript driver. Text printing works just fine. Oh, and Acrobat also prints fine...
[05:59] <chavo> jetsaredim, is it Adept, or Add/Remove programs?
[05:59] <jetsaredim> chavo: add/remove
[05:59] <ForgeAus> add/remove is also adept...
[05:59] <caris_mere> any have experience setting up a webcam?
[06:00] <ForgeAus> just a different "mode"/part of the adept "suite"
[06:00] <chavo> yeah, with some packages greyed out
[06:00] <ForgeAus> but why are they greyed out?
[06:00] <ForgeAus> I'd also like to know
[06:00] <chavo> not sure exactly I don't use adept anyway
[06:01] <chavo> I think add/remove is supposed to be simpler, not showin libraries and such
[06:01] <Alumin> chavo: what are some of the grayed-out packages?
[06:01] <genii> dmial: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2552715
[06:02] <ForgeAus> Jets if you know the name of the package you can probably install it in adept using the main package manager to run it... it hasn't got the eyecandy of the add/remove view but it has searching and stuff...
[06:02] <Alumin> maybe the grayed-out ones are the ones you already have installed?
[06:02] <jetsaredim> yea was looking for the new ldevelop package
[06:02] <STEFBOY`brb> Anybody knows how may I run remote Desktop(VNC) on my Linux????
[06:02] <jetsaredim> are there other repos that I should be adding?
[06:02] <ForgeAus> yeah Alimin but then the "main" adept installer itself is simple enough... as long as you backstep if it tels you its going to BREAK something..
[06:03] <STEFBOY`brb> I`d like to make connection between WinXP and Kubuntu..
[06:03] <ForgeAus> STEFBOY`brb, just download the packages for it
[06:03] <jetsaredim> I'm thinking about switching from gentoo and I really wanting the latest and greatest versions of packages
[06:03] <STEFBOY`brb> I couldn`t find
[06:03] <ForgeAus> there is a Terminal Services client
[06:03] <chavo> STEFBOY`brb, run krdc
[06:03] <STEFBOY`brb> I`d like to run a VNC server on Linux
[06:03] <STEFBOY`brb> yeah but my client is windows based
[06:04] <STEFBOY`brb> i found that work only for Linux-Linux machines
[06:04] <genii> STEFBOY`brb:  VNC doesn't care what platforms you have at either end
[06:05] <STEFBOY`brb> but you have to run a application on Win
[06:05] <STEFBOY`brb> I use it ot both WinXP machines
[06:05] <STEFBOY`brb> and it worked fine
[06:05] <STEFBOY`brb> now I changed one of the machines to Kubuntu
[06:05] <ForgeAus> there is a terminal services client for linux
[06:05] <STEFBOY`brb> and I`d like to run a VNC server there
[06:05] <STEFBOY`brb> any link ?
[06:05] <jhutchins_wk> STEFBOY`brb: XP runs rdesktop natively, there are clients that can access it.
[06:06] <jetsaredim> also - where do I get the codecs and such to play dvds
[06:06] <Dr_willis> theres a  lot of vnc specifics and variants to choose from.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[06:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:06] <Dr_willis> dvd's dont use codecs..  they need the dvdcss stuff. :)
[06:06] <Dr_willis> well i guess that counts as a codec? sort of? not really...
[06:06] <jhutchins_wk> Dr_willis: 'course not all of them are css encrypted.
[06:06] <genii> STEFBOY`brb: Just install the package vncserver
[06:07] <ubuntu_>  <johny_>:i return still now from out. thanks i give a try on #kde
[06:07] <Dr_willis> jhutchins_wk,  ive got a collection of..  well i wont say... thats not encrypted.     :)
[06:07] <ForgeAus> STEF its in the repostitories somewhere
[06:07] <ForgeAus> (possibly under universe or multiverse)
[06:07] <STEFBOY`brb> thanks
[06:07] <STEFBOY`brb> I don`t have access to my server to do it now
[06:08] <STEFBOY`brb> but I`ll have it in mind
[06:08] <STEFBOY`brb> :))
[06:08] <genii> !info vncserver | STEFBOY'brb
[06:08] <ubotu> stefboy'brb: vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1244 kB
[06:08] <ForgeAus> !info pxe
[06:08] <ubotu> pxe: free PX daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-4 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 136 kB
[06:09] <STEFBOY> nice service you have here
[06:10] <jhutchins_wk> Speaking of ubotu, somebody needs to update the KDE info an clean up the old stuff.  I think there's at least one link that still reports 3.5.4 as the latest.
[06:10] <ForgeAus> someone should make a kubntuflash! (LiveCD-like kubntu distro from ubuntu minimal with some KDE stuff, personally I'd go sans bluetooth... whatever packages you can get away with that fit on a 256k stick)
[06:11] <ForgeAus> grr 256MB stick sorry
[06:11] <jhutchins_wk> ForgeAus: I thought there already was one?  Mandriva has one.
[06:11] <ForgeAus> there are several flash-linuxes but I havn't come across kubuntu's yet if it has one
[06:12] <ForgeAus> (or ubuntu's) theres instructions how to make one
[06:13] <barb> Unable to load the requested driver:
[06:13] <barb> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-PSC_750,gutenprint] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> fire up the package manager and install the extra cups drivers  perhaps
[06:13] <barb> is the driver database broken ?
[06:13] <ForgeAus> barb try running the application as the superuser
[06:14] <barb> ForgeAus: yeah
[06:14] <barb> Dr_willis: what 'extra cups drivers' ?
[06:14] <ForgeAus> if its gui use kdesu or if its console use sudo before the commandline and run it t hat way... (will ask you for root password)
[06:15] <barb> ForgeAus: i clicked admin mode
[06:15] <jhutchins_wk> Oh, that stuff's a mess.
[06:15] <ForgeAus> hmmm ok then either something missing or linux is looking in the wrong place?
[06:15] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Try doing it from cups.
[06:15] <barb> jhutchins_wk: ?
[06:15] <Gala> !paste
[06:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> barb,  for some printers i had.. thee was some extra cups drivers packages not installed by default i recall installing a year or so ago.
[06:16] <jhutchins_wk> localhost:631 will give you the cups management app.
[06:16] <robertpolson> New version of Beryl !
[06:16] <robertpolson> http://lunapark6.com/?p=2916
[06:16] <Dr_willis> HP-PSC  is a all-in-one-printer-scanner ?
[06:16] <barb> yes
[06:16] <jhutchins_wk> barb: the kubuntu printer config utilities has horrible problems with permission errors and such.  I've had to bypass it to get anything working.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> I recall having to install some hpoj service also for mine.. i got a 1200v all in 1.. but aint used it in ages..
[06:17] <barb> jhutchins_wk: ok trying now.
[06:17] <igorv2> hi
[06:17] <BluesKaj> bah humbug, eye candy that looks good but does nothing else except slow things down :)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> we need a Console/Text based Front end! :)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> then play the videos with that AALIB stuff in full ascii-animation goodness
[06:19] <BluesKaj> I tried beryl, it's like barbie and ken dolls ,nice to look at but useless otherwide :)\
[06:19] <jetsaredim> ok - totally not getting this
[06:19] <BluesKaj> otherwise
[06:19] <jetsaredim> I thought that feisty was supposed to have all the non-open stuff in it already
[06:19] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  looks good... but then you reaize the 'good bits' are missing.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> jetsaredim,  i thought it had some scripts to install some of it..
[06:20] <BluesKaj> yeah  Dr_willis, there is a definite wow factor , but it wears pretty thin very quickly
[06:20] <jhutchins_wk> Possibly the third-party repos like PLF haven't bothered to start porting stuff to feisty while edgy is still unstable.
[06:21] <barb> what's the differance in  localhost:631  and  print:/  in konqueror ?
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> jetsaredim: It would never have w32codecs for example
[06:23] <jetsaredim> so where do I get those things??
[06:23] <jetsaredim> like dvd playback and such thing
[06:23] <jhutchins_wk> barb: print:/ is using the kde stuff, localhost:631 should be using the cups html interface.
[06:23] <jhutchins_wk> !restricted
[06:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> jetsaredim: legally the only place is from a copy of windows you own
[06:24] <barb> jhutchins_wk: what's the location of a usb printer ?
[06:24] <jhutchins_wk> jetsaredim: I would say go with the dapper/edgy procedures and experiment with substituting feisty.
[06:24] <Jaxx> hey all
[06:24] <Gala> guys but in Linux Kubuntu... can I Install game... World of Warcraft for example?
[06:25] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Dunno, let me see if I can figure it out.
[06:25] <jackson> does any know a way i can configure ktorrent to be the default client for torrent files? thx
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Gala,  to run windows software/games like that you will want to use wine, or cedega to run them
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Gala,  and DONT expect it to work flawlessly... :)
[06:25] <Gala> lol understood...
[06:25] <barb> lsusb
[06:25] <barb> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 03f0:1411 Hewlett-Packard
[06:25] <barb> does that help ?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Gala,  if you are really hard core about it - i advise paying for the CEDEGA stuff.. its only like $5 a mo.
[06:26] <chavo> wow is supposed to work with wine
[06:26] <Dr_willis> supposed to. :)
[06:26] <Gala> :D
[06:26] <chavo> never tried it myself
[06:26] <Jaxx> Gala i tried world of warcraft in linux
[06:26] <Dr_willis> from what i noticed last i tried wow+cedega - every new update to WOW broke somthing.. then cedega had to have a update soon afterwards
[06:26] <Gala> work?
[06:26] <Jaxx> Gala try with wine it works perfectly
[06:26] <Jaxx> yup
[06:26] <Jaxx> http://www.winehq.org/
[06:27] <Gala> thx u
[06:27] <Jaxx> wine can emulate the game very well
[06:27] <barb> anyone know what to enter in the "location" field of cups add printer ?
[06:27] <chavo> you can apt-get install wine also
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> apparantly cross over office also supports wow (and when they say something is supported it is of higher quality than cedega)
[06:27] <Dr_willis> the use of 'wine' and 'works perfectly' --  in the same sentance.. :) *shudder*
[06:27] <Gala> ok i use apt get so
[06:27] <Jaxx> gala yes... chavo is right
[06:27] <Dr_willis> of course i do recall a 'rumor' that the WOW guys considered using Cedega/wine to be 'cheating' :)
[06:28] <Dr_willis> but i was never able to find any other information on that
[06:28] <arditxo> hi, anyone knows where to set the JAVA_HOME and PLUGIN_HOME variables?
[06:28] <Jaxx> :)
[06:28] <Gala> lol
[06:28] <Dr_willis> arditxo,  why do you need to set them?
[06:28] <jhutchins_wk> barb: usb:/dev/device#
[06:28] <jhutchins_wk> barb you can find that in console using lsusb
[06:28] <arditxo> because I'm still trying to configure my java1.5 installation
[06:29] <barb> scroll up
[06:29] <Dr_willis> arditxo,  how did you install it? ive never had to manually set those things to get java working
[06:29] <arditxo> I executed the java1.5xxx.bin file
[06:29] <Dr_willis> !java
[06:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:29] <Dr_willis> you can just apt-get install java now a days
[06:29] <Dr_willis> unless thers somthing special ya need...
[06:29] <cntb> was on TV with family back to ubuntu now
[06:29] <Gala> downloading wine
[06:30] <cntb> h3sp4wn:  ?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> *hic*
[06:30] <arditxo> yah I've already read those steps
[06:30] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Getting anywhere?
[06:30] <arditxo> but I cannot get it working
[06:30] <jhutchins_wk> barb: http://uw714doc.sco.com/en/PR_admin/cups-start.html
[06:30] <barb> maybe.   is usb:/dev/002  right for the location ?
[06:30] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Unfortunately, their link to "Printing:USB Support" is broken.
[06:31] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Should be.
[06:31] <barb> ok
[06:31] <Igor_V2> hi
[06:31] <Gala> guys for the resolution... i need to download driver of ati or reconfigure xorg.conf?
[06:32] <arditxo> yeh I see, but I specifically need the 1.5 version, not the latest one (1.6)
[06:32] <slyfox> Need help - when I choose seesion type and Console - the only thing I get is a black screen. I tried to press cntrl+alt+F1 and nothing happens. I also tried this from my normal session: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop   and I again get a balck screen, cntrl+alt+F1 does nothing. The only thing that works on that balck screen is CTRL+ALT+Delete to estart my laptop. That is it. Help.
[06:32] <Jaxx> any romanians in here?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> !find java
[06:32] <ubotu> Found: gcj, gcj-4.1, gij, gij-4.1, java-common (and 248 others)
[06:32] <arditxo> and so, using the sources I can only get the 1.6
[06:32] <Dr_willis> arditxo,  last i looked there was 2 packatges one for 1.5 one for 1.6
[06:32] <cntb> !find migrate
[06:33] <Gala> what do u say about?
[06:33] <barb> ooops   "you need to supply a username and passwd too access this site 'cups at locaalhost'"  ?
[06:33] <ubotu> File migrate found in xen-utils-3.0
[06:33] <barb> what's that asking for ?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> sun-j2re1.5 - Java(TM) 2 RE, Standard Edition, Sun Microsystems(TM)
[06:34] <barb> jhutchins_wk: what's that asking for ?
[06:34] <arditxo> well I have already looked it in my synaptic
[06:34] <Dr_willis> you did enable all the extra repositories?
[06:34] <arditxo> and I only get the 1.6 , what am I doing wrong
[06:34] <jhutchins_wk> !cups
[06:34] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:35] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Shoot, I don't remember that.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> ive gotten so many extra things in the repos... i dont know what im getting from where.
[06:35] <jhutchins_wk> barb: It's in the ubuntu docs though, on one of the sites.
[06:35] <sbee> hi anyone can help me.. my pc hang after i type dpkg --configure -a
[06:36] <arditxo> :)
[06:36] <barb>  don't know what user name it's asking for ?
[06:36] <Gala> guys i've apt-get install wine ... now how can i do ?
[06:36] <cntb> OK stopped and edited on boot grub commands. where do I save new commands?
[06:37] <sean_> Hi all - quick question, whats the most popular IRC client ? Currently using Konversation (only installed Linux 2 days ago..), seems to do the job ok, just wondered if I was missing out on anything cool and spangly :P
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> sean_: irssi
[06:37] <jhutchins_wk> barb: I don't remember myself, I think you may need to set it up.  This is part of why the kde interface doesn't work for setting up printers.
[06:37] <sean_> h3sp4wn: I'll take a look @ that thanks.
[06:37] <cntb> nope sean_
[06:38] <sbee> :(
[06:38] <BluesKaj> hehe, he wants eye candy h3sp4wn :)
[06:38] <cntb> irssi ok xchat OK sean_
[06:38] <arditxo> one more question: why do I need to type "./" in order to execute the java file?
[06:38] <sean_> :)
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: He said what is the most used
[06:38] <sean_> irssi - is that console based ? :P
[06:38] <cntb> gaim is a nice idea too
[06:38] <HymnToLife> arditxo, because it is not in your $PATH
[06:38] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Sorry, no help in the bot links.
[06:38] <arditxo> (javapath/  ./java)
[06:38] <BluesKaj> irssi is a terminal program
[06:38] <sean_> lol
[06:38] <cntb> GAIM  = all IM in one
[06:38] <barb> ok thanks jhutchins_wk
[06:38] <arditxo> aham
[06:39] <sean_> ahh I heard about GAIM also
[06:39] <Gala> !wine
[06:39] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:39] <HymnToLife> cntb, Kopete = same thing but with a K in it :p
[06:39] <HymnToLife> and it's gaim or Gaim, _not_ GAIM
[06:39] <jhutchins_wk> barb: this may help
[06:39] <sean_> I dont really wanna terminal program tbh..... if I had an IBM PS\2 with a tiny hard drive it would make sense :P
[06:39] <cntb> sean_ HymnToLife right kopete is the kde answer to GAim
[06:40] <jhutchins_wk> barb sorry, this: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/
[06:40] <BluesKaj> h3sp4wn, somehow i doubt irssi is the most used , even in linux
[06:40] <barb> looking
[06:40] <cntb> so sean_ konversation kopete xchat gaim irssi
[06:40] <HymnToLife> sean_, sorry to disappint you but I'm using terminal programs on an Athlon 64
[06:40] <sean_> cntb: thanks very much
[06:41] <sean_> HymnToLife:  :-) hey I'm not knocking it.. everyone to their own, just not for me
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: Maybe not in this channel - but against most linux I would say yes (most people I know use it)
[06:41] <BluesKaj> konversation is prolly the easiest if yer used to windows clients like mirc
[06:41] <hatta> anyone who knows what they're doing uses irssi
[06:41] <HymnToLife> BluesKaj, there is xchat for Windows too
[06:42] <HymnToLife> damn, I'm sick of those "anyone who knows uses foobar"
[06:42] <HymnToLife> I think I know what I'm doing and I'm using xchat...
[06:42] <angasule> hatta: really? I thought snobs and elitists used irssi
[06:42] <BluesKaj> hatt yer a linux purist , that doesn't mean someone who doesn't use irssi isn't knowledgeable
[06:42] <hatta> them too
[06:43] <sean_> I'm knowledgeable - just not on Linux yet. I'm a windows guy, but I am very interested in learning Linux now.
[06:43] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Ok, I've been down this path before, just didn't remember the steps.
[06:44] <jhutchins_wk> barb: The problem is that the cupsys user (the one cups runs as) doens't have access to the shadow password file.
[06:44] <cntb> sean_ give us a hug
[06:44] <cntb> Anomymous LINUX addicts
[06:44] <jhutchins_wk> barb: After adding usr cupsys to the shadow group and restarting cups, you should be able to use your own username and password.
[06:44] <cntb> anonimous
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> anonimouse
[06:44] <sean_> lool
[06:45] <cntb> or is it anonymous ?
[06:45] <jhutchins_wk> If anybody knows a ubuntu developer, please kick them and ask them to FIX THE PRINTER INTERFACE AND CUPS PASSWORD PROBLEM.
[06:45] <sean_> anonymous
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> cntb: the later
[06:45] <cntb> latter
[06:45] <cntb> most of us write Internetish
[06:45] <jhutchins_wk> a=negative no=known nym=name ous=having this charictaristic.
[06:46] <n8k99> jhutchins_wk you could leave a bugreport on launchpad
[06:46] <jhutchins_wk> n8k99: You think 657,000 hits on google doesn't give anybody a clue?
[06:46] <jhutchins_wk> n8k99: I believe I did file a BR though.
[06:47] <n8k99> good
[06:47] <cntb> how do I repair X ? dpkg-reconfigure Xserver ?
[06:47] <cntb> !xserver
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <jhutchins_wk> I tell ya, not being able to set up printers is a real deal killer for the average user.
[06:48] <cntb> !find xserver
[06:48] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-input-elographics, xserver-xorg-input-evdev, xserver-xorg-input-kbd, xserver-xorg-input-mouse, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (and 79 others)
[06:48] <cntb> what a lag ?
[06:49] <cntb> !find xserver-xorg
[06:49] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-input-elographics, xserver-xorg-input-evdev, xserver-xorg-input-kbd, xserver-xorg-input-mouse, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (and 72 others)
[06:49] <arditxo> ok thx all
[06:49] <arditxo> bye
[06:49] <BluesKaj> sean, i'm also a windows who eventually saw the error of my ways but being linux cli freak doesn't make ppl superior in any way , they just have a different computing experience than others , and be judged on linux purist cli terms is totally a childish POV.
[06:49] <alessandro_> i have audio problem i can hear sound but only on one side any suggestion?
[06:50] <sasoyna> i was ubuntu.So johny_ are you still there?
[06:51] <Gala> go go rock lee
[06:51] <sasoyna> who speak me to type kdestart? that's no twork
[06:52] <BluesKaj> startkde, sasoyna
[06:52] <sasoyna> ** no twork=not work
[06:52] <barb> all i can get is  authentication fails    using root with root's passwd
[06:52] <BluesKaj> type startkde , not kdestart
[06:52] <sasoyna>  < BluesKaj>:i try tnks
[06:54] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Did you add cupsys to shaddow and restart cups?
[06:55] <barb> 401 Unauthorized
[06:56] <barb> Enter your username and password or the root username and password to access this page.
[06:56] <barb> jhutchins_wk: yes
[06:56] <barb> that got rid of the dialog asking for a username and passwd.
[06:56] <barb> but now it goes streight to that page ^
[06:57] <cntb> BluesKaj:  explain childish POV pls !
[06:57] <GalaZ> if I've a file .rar... how can i open it?
[06:58] <barb> the line that reads "Enter your username and password or the root username and password to access this page."   is on the page after the  401 error      there is no  place to enter any authentication.
[06:58] <LjL> !rar > GalaZ    (GalaZ, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:59] <jhutchins_wk> barb: I dunno, try regular username & password instead.
[06:59] <LjL> !upgrade > LjL    (LjL, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:00] <barb> how it doesn't ask for a user anymore ?
[07:00] <cntb> LjL in migration managed to  login cli with errors how do I clean fstab ? specifically kill UUIDs and chg sda7 to hda7 ?
[07:00] <barb> it just says auth failed.
[07:00] <jhutchins_wk> Oh, close the browser, it's cached it.
[07:00] <barb> oh
[07:00] <barb> heh
[07:00] <LjL> cntb... parse error on line one :o)
[07:00] <BluesKaj> cntb , the idea that using a cli interface like irssi is somehow superior to using a gui client
[07:01] <cntb> IOW in migtration to different hardware howto reconstruct fstab ?
[07:01] <LjL> !blkid | cntb
[07:01] <ubotu> cntb: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:01] <LjL> but actually, the UUIDs should remain the same, if the partitions are the same
[07:01] <cntb> tyvm LjL
[07:01] <LjL> even if the hardware is different
[07:01] <cntb> same layout LjL
[07:02] <cntb> arenot UUIDs taken from hardware?
[07:02] <LjL> no
[07:02] <LjL> cntb: depends on how you duplicated the partitions - if you *cloned* them, the UUIDs should remain the same. if you just copy the files, they'll probably change
[07:02] <barb> nope auth fails for user also
[07:02] <cntb> acronis copied a SATA to hda  80gb sata to 80gb PATA
[07:03] <cntb> true copy
[07:03] <cntb> windows works OK
[07:03] <barb> jhutchins_wk: auth fails for user also
[07:03] <cntb> OK
[07:04] <cntb> so how do I convert blkid to fstab ?vi ?
[07:04] <cntb> pipe > LjL ?
[07:04] <LjL> cntb: any editor, yeah
[07:05] <jhutchins_wk> barb: I'm really sorry, this must be quite frustrating.  Let me see what I can find, I know there's a way around it.
[07:05] <cntb> trying to save typing is """ blkid > fstab-buildfrom-here "" a good idea ?
[07:05] <ozziuss> siema
[07:06] <LjL> cntb: no
[07:07] <ozziuss> could somebody tell mi what is IRC? for what can I use it?
[07:07] <cntb> LjL: what better idea?
[07:07] <LjL> cntb: doing it manually
[07:07] <LjL> the "blkid" format isn't fstab format
[07:07] <cntb> LjL:  trying to build a routine of producing dual boot PCs
[07:07] <LjL> ozziuss: you're using it right now, for chatting.
[07:08] <LjL> cntb: then a script
[07:08] <cntb> OK but must think where and how to save work  LjL ;-)
[07:08] <jhutchins_wk> barb: Hang in there, gathering clues.
[07:08] <ozziuss> LjL: IRC is only a chat client?
[07:08] <LjL> ozziuss: IRC is a protocol. the client is Konversation or X-Chat or whatever.
[07:08] <LjL> right now, you're on the Freenode network of IRC servers.
[07:08] <LjL> and yes it's chat
[07:09] <LjL> cntb: let me see, blkid has some useful options for formatting
[07:09] <cntb> maybe to the point  I am reading scripts but not making myself LjL
[07:09] <barb> i'm going to say it's a permissions problem.   what files/dirs are we talking about here ?
[07:09] <ozziuss> aaa...i understand now
[07:09] <h3sp4wn> ozziuss: people abuse it for other purposes (i.e warez)
[07:09] <cntb> LjL: Ok ty will man blkid
[07:10] <LjL> cntb: well, a problem i can see is: how could you ever match partitions automatically? i.e. how to know that a given partition is / and not /home?
[07:10] <LjL> i think that, save some very clever magic that's probably not really worth doing, that would have to be done manually
[07:10] <jhutchins_wk> barb: sudo vi /etc/group, find lpadmin - are you a member?
[07:11] <jhutchins_wk> (You can use whatever user management tool you prefer, I'm a CLI guy)
[07:11] <cntb> maybe right LjL
[07:11] <LjL> just type "groups" to see which groups you belong to
[07:11] <ozziuss> can somebody help me? i can't open phpmyadmin in kubuntu. i installed it using sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[07:11] <cntb> tyvm
[07:12] <LjL> cntb: blkid can search by partition label. if your partitions have meaningful labels, you could use that. but i don't know many people who actually do use labels...
[07:14] <cntb> LjL: now on CLI only without X without network
[07:14] <cntb> what do I do if I need su . which does not work
[07:14] <cntb> LjL: sudo suficces even now?
[07:14] <h3sp4wn> sudo -i
[07:14] <jhutchins_wk> Shoot, we lost one.
[07:15] <cntb> LjL: in windows I do use labels all the time
[07:15] <cntb> tyvm for the idea
[07:15] <cntb> tvm h3sp4wn
[07:16] <jhutchins_wk> Finally found the page that ACTUALLY EXPLAINS how to make cups work, add the username to group lpadmin, and add cupsys to group shadow.
[07:17] <cntb> how do I label a blkdevice in CLI ?
[07:17] <cntb> I know my root is /dev/hda7
[07:17] <LjL> cntb: tune2fs -L, for ext3 filesystems
[07:17] <LjL> well actually, e2label even
[07:18] <cntb> ty
[07:18] <cntb> OK e2label helped me
[07:20] <Alumin> hmm...I'm not sure if this is a distro question, a Konsole question, or a screen question (perhaps a terminfo question?), but uh
[07:20] <cntb> anybody knows how to import file in "vi editor " ? sorry for lazyness or lack of CLI skills
[07:20] <Alumin> ok, so if I run Konsole and then run screen with a bunch of ssh sessions attached, my backspace key doesn't work (the terminal just beeps when I press it)
[07:21] <LjL> cntb: no, i don't, but perhaps you might want to have mouse support for copy and paste
[07:21] <LjL> !gpm
[07:21] <jhutchins_wk> cntb: :r <file>
[07:21] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-22ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 500 kB
[07:21] <Alumin> however, if I attach to the same screen session with xterm, it works
[07:21] <Alumin> gpm is in universe?  wow
[07:22] <jhutchins_wk> Alumin: Try "reset".
[07:22] <LjL> well it's not like ubuntu gives much emphasis to the VT interface...
[07:22] <cntb> jhutchins_wk: you made me advance fast tyvm
[07:22] <jhutchins_wk> Alumin: I think GPM predates the universal GNU license.
[07:23] <Alumin> LjL: true, but I thought inclusion in main predicated on licensing issues rather than "focus"?
[07:23] <LjL> jhutchins_wk: shouldn't matter, the decision of putting something in universe vs main isn't license dictated
[07:23] <LjL> Alumin: no
[07:23] <Alumin> it isn't?
[07:23] <h3sp4wn> I hate nano - like vim - probably should learn emacs one of these days
[07:23] <Alumin> I'm used to Debian I guess
[07:23] <LjL> main *and* universe are free software / restricted *and* multiverse are non-free (or depend on non-free)
[07:23] <LjL> otoh
[07:24] <LjL> main *and* restricted are maintained by the core developers / universe *and* multiverse are maintained by the community
[07:24] <LjL> these are the difference
[07:24] <Alumin> ah, ok
[07:24] <cntb> main is the most necessary universe is extra
[07:24] <LjL> main=coredevs,free - universe=community,free - restricted=coredevs,nonfree - multiverse=community,nonfree
[07:24] <slyfox> I have a problem, you know how in KDE all the icons are in tray packed small and organized? Now they are in one big straight line, how do I fix it?
[07:25] <Alumin> slyfox: perhaps you need to make your panel larger?
[07:27] <caris_mere> could somebody help me with webcam setup?
[07:27] <jager> how can i get amarok to use projectm?
[07:27] <Alumin> slyfox: sometimes it's just a couple of pixels' worth of height that makes the difference
[07:27] <jager> ubuntu doesn't seem to have proojectm in the repositories :(
[07:28] <johny_> is this possible to acces the recycle bin by shell?
[07:28] <jager> i installed some debian packages and it works fine in xmms but amarok doesn't see xmms plugins :(
[07:28] <dwidmann> slyfox, if you're talking about the icons in the system tray, I do recall KDE 3.5.2 having them in multiple rows, and previous/later versions having them in a single row.
[07:29] <LjL> !webcam
[07:29] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:29] <cntb> can parted update fstab ?
[07:29] <jhutchins_wk> Doesn't firefox have an editor function?
[07:29] <slyfox> dwidmann: no a few minutes ago I had them in multiple rows, and now it is one long line
[07:30] <dwidmann> jhutchins_wk, I don't think so, I think seamonkey does though.
[07:30] <cntb> df -h does not show /dev/hda1 which is windows . why ?
[07:30] <hatta> cntb, is it mounted?
[07:30] <dwidmann> slyfox, hmmm, did you alter the size of the tray?
[07:31] <dwidmann> cntb: is /dev/hda1 mounted?
[07:31] <caris_mere> LjL: I've been there, but I still can't get it working, not really sure about all that
[07:32] <albertg> Hi.. i need some help
[07:32] <LjL> caris_mere: i'm not sure i can help you very much, my cam just worked out of the box. what are you stuck on anyway?
[07:32] <slyfox> dwidmann: I did install beryl and it happened
[07:32] <slyfox> dwidmann: how can I alter the size again ?
[07:32] <dwidmann> right click -> configure panel
[07:33] <dwidmann> about 2/3 of the way down
[07:33] <caris_mere> LjL: It's plugged in, but doesn't do anything, I just don't know what to do
[07:33] <albertg> Hi.. i need some help!!! plz...
[07:33] <LjL> caris_mere: well i suppose you should install something like Camorama, as the page suggests, to see if the webcam is working?
[07:33] <LjL> !camorama
[07:33] <ubotu> camorama: gnome2 tool to view, alter and save images from a webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.18-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 190 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[07:34] <caris_mere> LjL: I installed the camorama, but it says that it can't connect to the video device
[07:34] <LjL> caris_mere: then it's just not working, which webcam is it? actually, what does  lsusb  in a console say?
[07:35] <slyfox> dwidmann: which section ?
[07:36] <ubuntu> i am french and you ?
[07:36] <dwidmann> slyfox: should be a dropdown for the size, "tiny,normal,large,custom" or something like that
[07:36] <BluesKaj> !fr
[07:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:37] <caris_mere> LjL: it says, Logitech, Inc. in the lsusb, and it is a Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX Plus
[07:38] <slyfox> dwidmann: man, cant find it. Which section. ?
[07:40] <dwidmann> one sec slyfox
[07:40] <Danzik> Quick question...
[07:40] <jhutchins_wk> Can't somebody put some warnings on the beryl packages?
[07:41] <Danzik> How do I install this screensaver?  (Never installed anything in Linux before)
[07:41] <jhutchins_wk> WARNING!!! ALPHA SOFTWARE!!! THIS WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM!!!
[07:41] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: but it looks so appealing
[07:41] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: http://lunapark6.com/?p=2916
[07:42] <Danzik> Any thoughts on the screensaver install?
[07:42] <jhutchins_wk> Danzik: apt-get install thisscreensaver
[07:43] <dwidmann> slyfox: http://images.xnowherex.net/size.png - the third frame, labelled size
[07:43] <jhutchins_wk> Danzik: Because nobody has a clue what you mean by "this screensaver", nobody's answering.
[07:43] <LjL> caris_mere: not sure, try rebooting with the webcam already in the port if you haven't
[07:43] <Danzik> hmm
[07:44] <dwidmann> best screensaver set I've seen was rss-glx ...
[07:44] <caris_mere> LjL: I have done that.  I looked under my devices and it says the device is Unknown, guess I will try to take it back and find one that doesn't have these problems
[07:44] <slyfox> dwidmann: this changes the size of the whole pannel, I just need the System Tray icons to be grouped into 2 lines, not one long line.
[07:45] <LjL> caris_mere: try one that's listed in the compatibility list if you can find it...
[07:45] <caris_mere> LjL: I will, thanks
[07:46] <infu> hello
[07:46] <crov> Hi, i am having problem with Booting Kubuntu i got this screen error and it stop booting... http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00260dd0.jpg
[07:46] <dwidmann> slyfox ... can't recall how to do it if it can be done :\
[07:47] <slyfox> crov: Is that a live cd boot ?
[07:47] <dwidmann> slyfox, well, I do know a way, it just may not be what you want
[07:47] <slyfox> dwidmann: I just want a simpel way :-(
[07:48] <Jaxx> Where can I find location of kubuntu firewall?
[07:48] <dwidmann> slyfox: , well, what I was thinking is, seperate it into two panels (or perhaps even three, if it lets you overlap them)
[07:48] <dwidmann> two wouldn't really fly unless you had a transparent panel background ..
[07:49] <crov> slyfox kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso
[07:52] <cntb> bk here
[07:52] <cntb> dwidmann /dev/hda1 not mounted not shown in blkid
[07:53] <cntb> scenario is migrating from sata to pata after acronis ghost or other imaging
[07:54] <cntb> BTW is there any unix utility for imaging like acronis or ghost ?
[07:54] <slyfox> crov: you proabbly had what I had, go to your bios settings and choose AGP = 4x
[07:54] <slyfox> crov: hold on
[07:54] <cntb> imaging seems like a tough job
[07:55] <hatta> cntb, dd or rsync depending on your needs
[07:56] <fdoving> cntb: partimage, mondorescue.
[07:57] <crov> slyfox but i am not using agp, i am using PCIE for my vga
[07:57] <cntb> tyvm fdoving hatta which one is CLI which is GUI ?
[07:58] <slyfox> crov: read this https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9284
[07:58] <dwidmann> partimage is a text mode interface if I remember right
[07:58] <slyfox> crov: what I did was " Alternatively change the AGP speed from 8x to 4x in the BIOS"
[07:58] <slyfox> crov: then once installed "
[07:58] <slyfox> it also work if you set up AGP 8x in the BIOS and use Option "AGPMode" "8"
[07:58] <slyfox> in xorg.conf?
[07:59] <slyfox> crov: then once installed, add Option "AGPMode" "8"  in xorg.conf  and then set the agp back to 8x in bios
[07:59] <slyfox> crov: No idea for pci
[07:59] <slyfox> crov: look into yoru bios
[07:59] <crov> yea if you have AGP as VGA
[07:59] <cntb> I think  as of today many community users have Broadband so there must be as many local mirrors of linux iinstall as possible
[08:00] <crov> but i can try to edit xorg and disable nano and disable the module "dri"
[08:00] <cntb> i myself found a script to buid the mirror and am starting to build local mirror
[08:01] <cntb> consider this link http://blog.entner.net/2006/08/16/make-ubuntu-dvds-including-everything/ for local mirror
[08:01] <slyfox> dwidmann: did it, either set the pannel size to large and to make it a bit smaller - custom - 48pixels
[08:02] <cntb> this link or similar should be introduced in  ubotu IMHO
[08:02] <cntb> http://blog.entner.net/2006/08/16/make-ubuntu-dvds-including-everything/
[08:02] <cntb> !dvds
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <cntb> !find dvds
[08:02] <ubotu> Package/file dvds does not exist in edgy
[08:03] <cntb> my lag is 20 s
[08:03] <dwidmann> !libdvdcss2
[08:03] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:03] <cntb> nope dwidmann . issue is http://blog.entner.net/2006/08/16/make-ubuntu-dvds-including-everything/
[08:03] <LjL> !dvd
[08:04] <cntb> who is editing ubotu ?
[08:04] <yura> Having problem with samba share. Can anyone help me?
[08:04] <BluesKaj> ok yura , what's the prob/
[08:05] <Jaxx> where can I setup FIREWALL IN KUBUNTU?
[08:06] <Jaxx> !firewall
[08:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:06] <yura> When I'm opening any openoffice document from samba share, the OpenOffice is asking login and password for this share
[08:06] <BluesKaj> !firewall
[08:06] <BluesKaj> oops
[08:07] <yura> is't asking login and pass only one time per session
[08:07] <cntb> Jaxx:  you most prolly are looking for a GUI tuning of firewall ?
[08:07] <dettoaltrimenti> are there any pre-made templates for openoffice's spreadsheet program?
[08:08] <BluesKaj> so you have permission to open the docs, yura ?
[08:09] <yura> Don't know. How can check if I have any "pre-made templates"?
[08:09] <yura> yes, I have premissions
[08:10] <yura> any other file type isn't asking any password
[08:10] <BluesKaj> sorry dunno much about O.O
[08:10] <yura> only open office types
[08:10] <cntb> when a line in fstab starts with # and whne not ?
[08:11] <BluesKaj> then the O.O files are prolly pw protected by someone else, yura
[08:11] <yura> no they aren't
[08:12] <BluesKaj> do they open if you use the pw?
[08:12] <yura> When I'm creating network folder link in Gnome there no such problem
[08:12] <BluesKaj> have you setup the share applet on the folders ?
[08:13] <BluesKaj> in my experience setting up the share requires the password just once on new folders
[08:13] <Shak1> NEW
[08:15] <coreire> hi, i've just booted kubuntu from dvd to see if it works with all my hardware. My resolution is set at 1024x768, i'm trying to change the res to 1366x768 which is the native res of my screen but the max option is 1024x768. How can i change the res? Thanks
[08:16] <juano__> coreire: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:17] <coreire> and i can do this while running from live cd? or will i have to install to hard drive?
[08:17] <juano__> coreire: ahh you mean the resolution inside livecd
[08:17] <coreire> yup
[08:18] <juano__> coreire: well yeah try what i told you
[08:18] <coreire> ok, will try it now, thanks.
[08:18] <juano__> coreire: then put your resolution next to the others , save the file and ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:24] <coreire> juano__: It says i don't have write access, any other way i can do this?
[08:25] <juano__> coreire: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:25] <wilman> i need a plugin for protected cd's
[08:25] <wilman> music cd's
[08:26] <juano__> coreire: you need to edit it as root
[08:26] <juano__> coreire: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:26] <dwidmann> wilman: I've never seen anything k3b couldn't handle
[08:26] <cntb> !log
[08:26] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[08:26] <wilman> oo
[08:26] <wilman> nice
[08:26] <cntb> !logs
[08:27] <voicu> hi, does anyone know an ide for C++ that works like BorlandC for DOS? i'm talking about the fact that it does compile+asm+link+run at once. preferably console too.
[08:28] <voicu> i'm sick of compiling and running in a separate console each time i do a change in the source
[08:28] <cntb> where in ubuntu is the logging of boot process?
[08:30] <cntb> fsck died with exit status 1 . gogle it ?
[08:30] <coreire> juano__: I am getting a "Failed to Open Device" in the terminal window now when i try to save. Screw it I'll just do the install and sort it out then. Thanks for your help
[08:30] <johny_> hey guys. I just wanted to disable "composite" in my xorg.conf file but after the computer restarts its doesn't load the x server and give me this mesagge "Parse error on line 161 of sections extensions in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:31] <coreire> 1 more uestion, how do i start the installation from the live cd?
[08:32] <johny_> that's my xorg.conf ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4325/
[08:32] <juano__> coreire: double click the install icon on the desktop
[08:32] <Tm_T> !universe
[08:32] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:32] <coreire> lol thanks, i should have noticed that
[08:33] <attila> Hi! Adept says that another process is using the packaging system database, but I can't see anything running. How can I stop processes runing in the background?
[08:33] <juano__> coreire: lol, :-) no problem
[08:33] <johny_> !xserver
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <johny_> !x11
[08:33] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:36] <BluesKaj> johny , check here for the proper wording of the xorg.conf , scroll about halfway down to see the proper text , it's under the heading: " Disable Composite extension" ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[08:38] <GalaZ> have anyone installed world of warcraft on kubuntu?
[08:39] <slyfox> Why cant I unrar RAR files? "The utility unrar is not in your PATH."  ???
[08:40] <ben_m> sudo apt-get install unrar
[08:40] <GalaZ> have anyone installed world of warcraft on kubuntu?
[08:40] <slyfox> ben_m: thanks
[08:44] <ccp_> hello
[08:45] <johny_> hey guys. I just wanted to disable "composite" in my xorg.conf file but after the computer restarts its doesn't load the x server and give me this mesagge "Parse error on line 161 of sections extensions in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:45] <johny_> that's my xorg.conf ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4325/
[08:45] <ccp_> hello, is this the ubuntu chat?
[08:46] <johny_> ccp: it's a IRC channel not a chat -;)
[08:46] <johny_> the ubuntu's one is #ubuntu
[08:47] <ccp_> I want the Jono Bacon chat
[08:48] <johny_> ccp_: what's that?
[08:48] <matt35> lu
[08:48] <nagyv> ccp_: it can happen that you are searching for #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:48] <BluesKaj> johny_, din't you read my message , above ?
[08:49] <johny_> BluesKaj: no, were there any messages?
[08:49] <BluesKaj> johny , check here for the proper wording of the xorg.conf , scroll about halfway down to see the proper text , it's under the heading: " Disable Composite extension" ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[08:49] <johny_> BluesKaj: Thanks man
[08:50] <BluesKaj> np
[08:50] <Lam_> what's the best audio tagging program?
[08:50] <GalaZ> Amarok ftw
[08:50] <BluesKaj> yup
[08:52] <ubuntu> hi there...
[08:53] <ccp_> now, there is an chat with Jono Bacon about the future of ubuntu and Linux general in the irc of ubuntu
[08:53] <ubuntu> is there any easy way of having dual monitors in Kubuntu?
[08:53] <johny_> ccp_: I didn't know about that, where?
[08:54] <MikeBeecham> Can anyone help?  Is there any easy way to configure dual monitors in Kubuntu?
[08:54] <voicu> is there another to trace the package route other than ping -R?
[08:54] <johny_> !traceroute| voicu
[08:54] <ubotu> voicu: traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[08:55] <MikeBeecham> Hi...can anyone help with a dual-monitor setup?
[08:55] <voicu> aham
[08:55] <voicu> why would they make that one optional?
[08:56] <ccp_> I didn't know, in the ubuntu chat, for the all world
[08:56] <HymnToLife> voicu, maybe because a sytem can very well run without it ?
[08:56] <MikeBeecham> can anyone hear me? :(
[08:56] <HymnToLife> MikeBeecham, no
[08:57] <MikeBeecham> :( :D
[08:57] <HymnToLife> but we can read you :p
[08:57] <boerjesl> hey, a quick simple question. I've installed kubuntu 6.10. I remember there was an easy tool to monitor bandwidth in an earlier ubuntu/kubuntu, but I can't find the software. any suggestions? even a simple commandline software would do
[08:57] <MikeBeecham> does anyopne know how to set up dual monitors in Kubuntu?
[08:57] <voicu> it's 104kB large and sometimes useful...
[08:57] <johny_> ccp_: here #ubuntu
[08:58] <johny_> boerjesl: is you're using KDE superkaramba's applet could be good..
[08:59] <ccp_> escuse me but my english it's very
[08:59] <johny_> ccp_: can't see any disccusiuion
[08:59] <voicu> MikeBeecham: i managed that with a matrox g450, maybe it is similar to your case
[08:59] <voicu> MikeBeecham: i can send you my xorg.conf file
[09:01] <boerjesl> nevermind i googled up vnstat
[09:01] <ccp_> ok, bye bye, thanks for all
[09:02] <Mena> hi friends
[09:02] <captain_flam> hello
[09:03] <Mena> what would happnend if i was updating but the net stoppend then make update for again is that woyld make conflects
[09:03] <captain_flam> I have some trouble to make sound working on my brand new edgy eft.
[09:03] <Shak1> NEW
[09:03] <Mena> for>>>>From*
[09:03] <barb> hello i've been having all kinds of trubble setting up a usb printer.   first there was an authentication problem.  i think i have that solved but now nothing can find the printer.  i've tried everything i can think of, encluding reboot.   any help?
[09:03] <captain_flam> I'm runing kubuntu, and nothing works in the "sound system" menu in the KDE control center.
[09:03] <captain_flam> test sound gives nothing
[09:04] <attila> does anybody know how to kill processes using the using the packaging system database? I can't use adept 'cause another process using it
[09:04] <bman_> I need help with installing java.
[09:04] <bman_> !java
[09:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:04] <captain_flam> Even with KDE (and KDM) down, I can't use mpg123.
[09:04] <barb> all printer manager apps saw it jusst fine while ago.   now nothinng sees it.  except lsusb
[09:05] <bman_> Help plz.
[09:06] <barb> attila: sudo fuser -k /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:06] <captain_flam> attila: try lsof /var/lib/dpkg/status
[09:06] <captain_flam> hum, attila forget what I said then. barb solution is better.
[09:07] <captain_flam> Any hint of what I can do for my sound server ?
[09:07] <captain_flam> I already used alsamixer to unmute everything.
[09:08] <captain_flam> And it seems that there is no alsaconf on ubuntu.
[09:09] <bman_> UGH
[09:09] <bman_> HELP
[09:10] <jordo23> Is there a way I can watch quicktime encoded video in Linux/Kubuntu?
[09:10] <bman_> kubuntu is tough.
[09:10] <The_Machine> hey guys, all of the "pop up" dialog boxes that normally prompt me for information are not appearing unless I click on the application itself.  Can someone tell me how to fix this?
[09:14] <shadowhywind> hay how does one change the ndiswrapper network device from say eth1 to wlan0
[09:17] <Shak1> jordo23 search for automatix and install the codecs package : i think the codec is somewhere in there because i installed it and am able to play quicktime movies
[09:17] <attila> captain_flam: it did not solve my problem (neither barb solution). still I open adept, it says that the database is in use
[09:17] <Shak1> jordo http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[09:19] <captain_flam> attila: does lsof returns somethin
[09:19] <captain_flam> g ?
[09:20] <attila> no, nothing
[09:20] <captain_flam> If you got a process id, just kill it.
[09:21] <The_Machine> hey guys, all of the "pop up" dialog boxes that normally prompt me for information are not appearing unless I click on the application itself.  Can someone tell me how to fix this?
[09:23] <captain_flam> attila: so I suppose you crashed an application or reboot on a dirty way. Try to rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:23] <captain_flam> You where root when doing the fstat command right ?
[09:24] <attila> captain_flam: I have this problem since I killed some installation
[09:26] <captain_flam> attila: you should try kill berfore kill -9, so the program can exit in a proper way. Anyway, removing the lock should work.
[09:29] <attila> captain_flam: I can't remove the file.  Anyway just remove the file lock and dont forget sudo as it's a file owned by root.
[09:32] <nagyv> attila: hello :)
[09:32] <captain_flam> attila: and welcome in the wonderful world of ubuntu (WWU).
[09:32] <attila> nagyv: hello
[09:36] <willilanger> hello, someone can help me?
[09:36] <nagyv> !ask | willilanger
[09:36] <ubotu> willilanger: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:36] <feanor_> y
[09:36] <julio> keith
[09:37] <willilanger> eheh ok! Is it possible to force update via web o kubuntu?
[09:37] <nagyv> willilanger: you mean, that you can not sit to your computer?
[09:37] <willilanger> I mean teh automatic update
[09:37] <willilanger> via internet
[09:37] <julio> anyone speakspanish
[09:38] <rag_> hola julio
[09:38] <nagyv> !es | julio
[09:38] <ubotu> julio: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:38] <willilanger> (sorry for my bad english...)
[09:38] <nagyv> no prob
[09:38] <nagyv> willilanger: there is an automatic upgrade tool if I remember well, but don't remember its name, try google
[09:38] <julio> como le ago soy nuevo
[09:38] <nagyv> willilanger: otherwise, in general the updates are through the net
[09:39] <willilanger> nagyv: can I launch it manually?
[09:39] <rag_> what dou u want to do? q quiers hacer?
[09:39] <rag_> julio)
[09:39] <julio> ubotu
[09:39] <nagyv> willilanger: and you can connect to your computer from any other computer using ssh, and update the computer from the distance
[09:39] <julio> si rag
[09:39] <sasoyna> hi johny_ i finally login... whith hand (startkde)
[09:39] <nagyv> julio vada a #kubuntu-es
[09:40] <julio> quero conversar con vos y camara
[09:40] <nagyv> someone who speaks spanish, please help him!
[09:40] <nagyv> !es | julio
[09:40] <ubotu> julio: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:40] <coreire> i'm installing kubuntu there, and i'm at the prepare mount points screen, i've chose a 20gb partition as "/" and i have chosen a swap partition, but when i click continue it gives the message "No Root File System". What am i missing?
[09:40] <willilanger> nagyv: now I'm diredctly connected to internet with ubuntu
[09:40] <rag_> julio,ubuntu-es
[09:40] <Kristophe> Hi anyone have a "windows mobile" palm-like? Does the synchronisation with kontact works?
[09:40] <nagyv> julio click to #kubuntu-es (click-click :) )
[09:40] <nagyv> willilanger: like many of us :)
[09:40] <julio> grasias amigos
[09:41] <julio> thankiu frens
[09:41] <nagyv> welcome :)
[09:41] <willilanger> nagyv: yes... but I'm looking for this automatic update
[09:41] <nagyv> willilanger: as I have told you search a bit, at least I don't know the program
[09:41] <coreire> and is it ok to have the root partition as a logical one?
[09:41] <nagyv> coreire: yep
[09:41] <willilanger> nagyv: ok 10x
[09:43] <nagyv> coreire: do you have ntfs partitions now? you should select a new file type in the installer
[09:43] <Shak1> NEW
[09:43] <coreire> i have ntfs partitions on the drive, but the one i have chosen for root is ext3, and the swap is formatted for swap
[09:45] <nagyv> coreire: and what is your error message?
[09:45] <tzbishop> How much space on HD (MB) does Kubuntu server consumes ?
[09:45] <johny_> sasoyna: how?
[09:45] <julio> i havesome questions
[09:45] <coreire> nagyv: No root partition
[09:45] <nagyv> !ask | julio
[09:45] <ubotu> julio: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:45] <rag_> julio, tell
[09:46] <nagyv> coreire: then try to reformat it as ext3, and select is once more, and apply the results. Sorry, but no better idea. :(
[09:46] <sasoyna> johny_: i select failsafe-->i type startkde
[09:46] <coreire> i'm using manual partitioning btw, do i have to set the ext3 as active?
[09:47] <julio> my question is how i do to get comunication thro tht linux to windows vois and video?
[09:48] <albertg> hi.. i need some help..
[09:48] <nagyv> julio: you can choose, although I don't have a "best" solution: amsn, skype, kopete
[09:48] <willilanger> anyone know how to get worked the wheel mouse?
[09:48] <nagyv> julio: and there is also wengophone which is probably the best available possibility
[09:48] <coreire> nagyv: format worked, thanks a lot
[09:48] <rag_> amsn, julio
[09:49] <lupine_85> ekiga > wengophone
[09:49] <lupine_85> linphone > *
[09:49] <johny_> sasoyna: so, everything is ok?
[09:50] <johny_> sasoyna: Did someone from #kde help you?
[09:50] <julio> I trayed to install amsn but i culdn
[09:50] <LjL> whatever > whatever, the only one i see a Qt version of is wengophone
[09:50] <johny_> julio: you want to use MSN protocol on Kubuntu?
[09:51] <julio> kubuntu
[09:51] <sasoyna> johny_:not really i enter whith the "manual" mode. I try on #kde.I hope to resolve:)
[09:51] <nagyv> LjL: skype is also qt based, althought I would like to use wengo
[09:52] <albertg> HI i need some help
[09:52] <LjL> nagyv: skype isn't a SIP client... i saw lupine_85 listing SIP clients. i don't even consider anything else, especially horrid proprietary protocols
[09:52] <johny_> sasoyna: can you relogin if you want?
[09:52] <albertg> how can i modify my source list?
[09:52] <lupine_85> skype < *
[09:52] <lupine_85> SIP is great, IAX is OK
[09:52] <nagyv> I have already tried once to set up a SIP connection between two computers (one windows, and mine), no success. SIP is still not for the ordinary users
[09:53] <nagyv> albertg: kdesu kate
[09:53] <lupine_85> lol
[09:53] <johny_> albertg: "sudo (editor) /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:53] <nagyv> albertg: then open the file as usual :)
[09:53] <sasoyna> johny_:what you mean?
[09:53] <lupine_85> no, SIP /is/ for the ordinary user. Skype is for the mindless drone ;)
[09:53] <johny_> albertg: that's from terminal
[09:53] <lupine_85> that said, gnome-meeting might be more to your taste
[09:53] <albertg> ok
[09:53] <albertg> johny_: thx
[09:53] <johny_> sasoyna: if you rebbot your computer everything is ok?
[09:54] <lupine_85> I think it interoperates with netmeetings
[09:54] <lupine_85> netmeeting*
[09:54] <nagyv> lupine_85: it was not, I have tried is also, and the problem was probably in the window's client
[09:54] <nagyv> lupine_85: but this did not helped me out
[09:54] <lupine_85> so, use a decent windows client? Ekiga compiled for it, last time I checked (although experimentally)
[09:54] <sasoyna> johny_:definitely no.I have to enter whith failsafe+kdestart.the only mode for now.
[09:54] <albertg> johny_: hey editor?
[09:55] <nagyv> lupine_85: I have tried exactly that :(
[09:55] <johny_> albertg: editor= nano (for shell) kate=for graphics
[09:55] <lupine_85> nagyv: try #windows and ask what SIP clients they're using?
[09:56] <nagyv> lupine_85: thx, this is a good idea :)
[09:56] <lupine_85> or set up a trixbox
[09:56] <lupine_85> not /that/ is a solution that isn't for the average user
[09:56] <lupine_85> now*
[09:56] <albertg> johny_: after i access how do i modify it? or save it
[09:56] <johny_> sasoyna: Try to report ypur problem here when more people is on-line or on #kde
[09:56] <Mena> is fiesty beta ot stable?
[09:57] <sasoyna> johny_:I note that i have too many root shells open.I don't think that's matter but who knows?
[09:57] <nagyv> Mena: beta
[09:57] <albertg> johny_: im getting this error
[09:57] <albertg> johny_: Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[09:57] <Mena> nagyv, okay
[09:57] <sasoyna> johny_: on #kde all sleeping:'(
[09:57] <johny_> !links|albertg
[09:57] <ubotu> albertg: links: Character mode WWW browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB
[09:58] <johny_> sorry
[09:58] <johny_> albertg: sorry just use this page for pasting http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[09:58] <albertg> ubotu: i dont underestan..
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i dont underestan.. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <johny_> albertg: wait aminute
[09:59] <sasoyna> johny_:  when more people is on-line here?
[09:59] <johny_> albertg: use this link for pasting pleasehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:00] <johny_> sasoyna: i don't know, I'm new here. I noticed people coming in the evening or at the morning
[10:01] <blue|palm> !qt
[10:01] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[10:01] <albertg> johny_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4339/
[10:01] <johny_> sasoyna: you should post this problem on kubuntuforums.net/
[10:02] <Mena> nagyv, Do you know how to be a devolper in linux ??^_^
[10:02] <sasoyna> johny_:ok you're new here (i am too) but you help me too mutch.1000 tnkx
[10:02] <nagyv> Mena: what would you like to develop? download its source, add to it, correct it, etc, and send a patch to the actual developers
[10:02] <goodthing> any lirc geek in here by any chance
[10:03] <lis> julio: can u connect with asmn?
[10:03] <sparr> how can i kill apt-index-watch permanently?  lots of forum threads about it hogging cpu and thrashing disk, but i cant find anywhere telling what starts it
[10:03] <Mena> nagyv, i acculty dont know which i would to be in but i would like bec i realy liked that and its too good
[10:03] <johny_> albertg: what package are you trying to install?
[10:04] <Mena> nagyv, and i want to know much more
[10:04] <albertg> wine..
[10:04] <nagyv> Mena: which language you know?
[10:04] <albertg> johny_: i was trying to install wine..
[10:04] <albertg> johny_: and i cant..
[10:04] <johny_> !wine|albertg
[10:04] <ubotu> albertg: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:04] <Mena> nagyv, my mother launguge is arabic and seconed languge i can speak but not so good is english i know a little france
[10:05] <binks> Mena: i think he meant programming language
[10:05] <Mena> nagyv, hahaha ok
[10:05] <Mena> nagyv, sorry
[10:06] <Mena> nagyv, simply i dont knwo bec i dont knwo much
[10:06] <Mena> nagyv, So what to do to knwo all this things
[10:06] <goodthing> is lirc-modules-source broken in edgy or something?
[10:06] <nagyv> Mena: then start to learn them. You can write small shell scripts just for fun. And you should read a lot! Documentations, and after the source code.
[10:07] <binks> Mena: ok i would learn python as most linux is python or c++ but c++ is way too hard to start
[10:07] <nagyv> Mena: try to find small problems that you want to solve using the computer, everything, even your homework.
[10:07] <binks> plus python is fun and gets you up and running fast and thus addictive
[10:07] <Mena> nagyv, binks, ok
[10:08] <binks> Mena: :)
[10:08] <kde_alin> what makes python so special?
[10:08] <Mena> nagyv,i think i should learn more basses abd then learn much more
[10:08] <nagyv> Mena: I think it is really easy to start with php, because it does not require any strictness, but you have to know all the time, that this way is a wrong way, after move on to python, java, c++, etc
[10:08] <binks> Mena: http://www.diveintopython.org/
[10:09] <Mena> nagyv,ok
[10:09] <nagyv> binks: I am going to look at it right now! :)
[10:09] <Mena> binks, ok
[10:09] <binks> and then come teach me lol
[10:09] <binks> im just looking at pyqt
[10:09] <binks> http://vizzzion.org/?id=pyqt
[10:11] <timster> Hey, how can I chekc what version of Flash im running?
[10:12] <binks> kde_alin python is understandable to even the untrained eye with only a little knowledge
[10:12] <blue|palm> !qt
[10:12] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[10:12] <timster> !flash
[10:12] <Mena> binks, so i can make any program i wont with this program , right
[10:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:12] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:13] <binks> hmmm well yes prob but gaming maybe not
[10:13] <binks> how vauge was that
[10:13] <timster> How can i check what flash version I have got?
[10:14] <binks> maybe flash --version
[10:14] <julio> hello
[10:14] <blue|palm> what would be the fastest distro to run kde on?
[10:14] <nagyv> timster: in firefox open the page "about:plugins"
[10:15] <binks> blue|palm: depends on what you want gentoo is supposedly the fastest but will take you 10 years to install
[10:15] <battery> Trying to install from liveCD. How do I install NDISwrapper to get my WLAN card working?
[10:15] <timster> It doenst say that i hafve flash?
[10:15] <Wazzzaaa> hello
[10:15] <binks> Wazzzaaa: ayup m8
[10:16] <Wazzzaaa> :)
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> binks: Its not that much faster
[10:16] <Wazzzaaa> some howto's says to use kynaptic, but i can't find it in the menu (kubuntu edgy)
[10:16] <johny_> timster: try http://www.google.com/linux?hl=pl&q=flash+version&btnG=Szukaj&lr=
[10:16] <blue|palm> I just want to program and use basic tools (mail, websurfing etc.) but i want it to be super-fast in kde if possible...
[10:16] <binks> which is why i use kubuntu
[10:17] <blue|palm> so its not worth swapping? What about debian?
[10:17] <binks> blue|palm: kubuntu will be ok for you is rocks
[10:17] <johny_> timster: sorry . this one http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=flash+version&btnG=Szukaj&lr=
[10:17] <blue|palm> it is awesome, i know
[10:17] <binks> Wazzzaaa: what you wanting to install
[10:18] <blue|palm> Just my ATI card is disappointing!!!
[10:18] <binks> whats wrong with adept
[10:18] <timster> I got flash 9
[10:18] <Ippatsu> hi all! I'm having an issue with file sharing with samba/nfs: I can't enable it from system settings or kcontrol because the panel is disabled ( screenshot here: http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sharingubuntuvp7.png ), how can I fix it?
[10:18] <binks> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[10:18] <johny_> timster: how did you find it?
[10:18] <binks> ^^ blue|palm
[10:18] <blue|palm> binks: yeah?
[10:18] <Wazzzaaa> binks, nothing is wrong with apt
[10:19] <timster> Youtube, rightclick a video it says
[10:19] <h3sp4wn> blue|palm: etch is slightly faster than kubuntu in my experience
[10:19] <binks> so why use kynaptic
[10:19] <Wazzzaaa> i prefer doing everything commandline also
[10:19] <binks> no u misunderstood adept is a gui
[10:19] <binks> in kubuntu
[10:19] <Wazzzaaa> sorry, i also kno adept
[10:19] <blue|palm> h3sp4wn: Im not familiar with debian names! is etch the latest debian distro?
[10:19] <Wazzzaaa> but i can't import a gpg key there
[10:20] <binks> om yes cli is the best
[10:20] <Wazzzaaa> (im new to kubuntu)
[10:20] <Wazzzaaa> im desperate, and there is one howto, but that describes installing the GUI way
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> blue|palm: etch is debian testing (will be stable soon) its newer than edgy also
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> (most packages)
[10:21] <binks> Wazzzaaa:   what you installing
[10:21] <blue|palm> h3sp4wn: cool, ill look into it. How big would the final release iso(s) be though?
[10:21] <johny_> Wazzzaaa: Did you triy to do it in apt's way?
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> blue|palm: You only need the net-install or kde cd1
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> blue|palm: there is 20cd's or something I think
[10:22] <blue|palm> h3sd4wn: woah... are there dvd(s)?
[10:22] <timster> !suse
[10:22] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[10:22] <Wazzzaaa> johny_ i don't know anymore what i did and did not try :S
[10:22] <Wazzzaaa> I want to install my ATI card
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> blue|palm: There are - whereas kubuntu / ubuntu etc has one cd - debian has every package on a cd
[10:22] <binks> ok a last question to python programmers what ide to use
[10:22] <johny_> Wazzzaaa: what package you need?
[10:23] <zero> nas
[10:23] <Wazzzaaa> w8 a minute,
[10:23] <battery> When using adept it says "eror committing changes" Is NDISWrapper included on the LiveCD?
[10:23] <binks> Wazzzaaa: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[10:24] <binks> battery add the extra repos if your online
[10:24] <Wazzzaaa> i already did that
[10:24] <binks> so what error you getting
[10:24] <Wazzzaaa> hmm, but i think i did the dapper one, maybe that's the prob :S
[10:24] <battery> I am not online. I am trying to add NDISwraper to get the WLAN card to work to get online :-(
[10:24] <Wazzzaaa> *shame*
[10:25] <binks> what does fglrxinfo give you
[10:25] <Wazzzaaa> direct rendering: No
[10:25] <Wazzzaaa> thnx for ur help now, i can hack a bit by myself now
[10:25] <johny_> Wazzzaaa: what graphics card?
[10:26] <Wazzzaaa> ATI RADEON x1400
[10:26] <johny_> !ati|Wazzzaaa
[10:26] <ubotu> Wazzzaaa: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:26] <binks> i had to remove refs to wacom devices to get mine working
[10:27] <jordo23> I forgot.....do You have to let Konqueror know you have spamassassin running.....or does it implement itself?
[10:27] <Wazzzaaa> thnx
[10:27] <jordo23> Sorry...meant kontact ^^
[10:28] <jordo23> nevermind....found it...
[10:30] <willilanger> hi all, is it possible to use the scroll wheel of the mouse to scroll windows?
[10:30] <timster> Do you all use kopete or what>?
[10:31] <kuking> hi @everybody. im getting error "segmentatiob error" wenn im setting my WLAN ADDR
[10:31] <johny_> timster: I do use Kopete, why did you ask?
[10:31] <nagyv> timster: I use konversation
[10:31] <timster> just wondering if theres a better one
[10:31] <timster> for msn btw
[10:31] <kuking> GAIIM is also good
[10:32] <lis> willilanger: what aplication?
[10:33] <kuking> any WLAN gurus
[10:33] <timster> How do i check the usage of an irc user name
[10:33] <johny_> timster: what you mean "usage"
[10:33] <willilanger> lis: for example firefox
[10:33] <timster> See how many days inactivitiy
[10:34] <johny_> timster: try here http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[10:34] <willilanger> lis: or konversation...
[10:34] <ErikTheRed> anyone know if amarok 1.4.5 is gonna be hitting the repos soon?
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> !info amarok feisty
[10:35] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.4-0.3ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 14652 kB, installed size 32648 kB
[10:36] <KingDome> anybody has experiance with "feisty"???
[10:36] <KingDome> lots of bugs??
[10:37] <lis> willilanger: konverstion, firefox too, its work
[10:37] <dwidmann> KingDome: last I checked it wouldn't even boot for me after installing :\
[10:38] <dwidmann> Of course, that was a week ago, who knows what has changed
[10:38] <lis> good luck, willilanger. bye
[10:38] <coreire> hi, i just finished a fresh install of kubuntu. I added the res 1360x768 to my xorg.conf before the 1024x768 res is each colour section, but the option isnt available in the monitor and display settings. How do i force this res? Thanks
[10:40] <willilanger> thanks lis
[10:40] <dwidmann> coreire: you probably need to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[10:40] <johny_> !xorg.cong|coreire
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.cong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <johny_> !xorg.conf|coreire
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <LjL> !xconfig
[10:41] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[10:41] <LjL> !xorg.conf is <alias> fixres
[10:41] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[10:41] <dwidmann> ooh, a neat trick
[10:43] <serpentus> hi... can someone please help..I need to convert an iso image to bin...how can I do it??? thanks
[10:47] <coreire> i ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and i found 1280x768 which is pretty close, but is there any way to get exactly 1360x768?
[10:48] <LjL> 1360x768? that's a weird resolution now...
[10:48] <LjL> i hope you don't have a 4:3 screen
[10:48] <LjL> !modeline
[10:48] <ubotu> A Modeline is a configuration line in the X server configuration file that provides information about a connected computer monitor or television and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here is 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[10:48] <coreire> i don't, its a widescreen hdtv
[10:49] <coreire> its actually 1366x768 but the gfx card can't output that because its not a multiple of 8
[10:49] <dwidmann> serpentus: to bin? any reason why? Hmm, I see utilities for doing the opposite floating around though (bchunk)
[10:49] <BluesKaj> !16x9
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 16x9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <BluesKaj> !widescreen
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <BluesKaj> ubot is outdated !
[10:50] <LjL> perhaps you could say ubuntu is, if it doesn't recognize widescreen
[10:50] <LjL> anyway just make a modeline
[10:50] <BluesKaj> ubotu is outdated !
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is outdated ! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <BluesKaj> :>p
[10:51] <serpentus> yep, I only see bin to iso, but I need Iso 2 bin.. it's that my Play Station brokedown T_T... and PCSX only reads bin.....(don worry it's an original game)
[10:51] <crimsun> does anyone happen to be experiencing problems using mysql 5.0.32-2 as the db backend in Feisty's amarok 1.4.5?
[10:52] <Ashex> anyone know of an rdc client that resumes active sessions?
[10:53] <luca_b> Ashex: NX should do the trick, if there is a NX server on the other side
[10:53] <dwidmann> serpentus, I guess google will have to come to the rescue ... I'm sure there's a iso9660 to cue/bin converter floating out there somewhere
[10:53] <voicu> crimsun: i updated amarok once and that messed up the collection. i deleted the db in mysql and created a new one. that worked for me
[10:53] <Ashex> luca_b, I'm currently using NX
[10:53] <Ashex> I want one that resumes active sessions
[10:53] <Ashex> kinda like (hate to mention it) windows, where if i remote connect, it automatically locks the active session and allows you to enter it
[10:54] <luca_b> Ashex: Ah, not like a real terminal server
[10:54] <coreire> what should i set dot clock and refresh rate to for an lcd? or does it vary?
[10:54] <Ashex> luca_b, pretty much
[10:54] <dwidmann> coreire: every monitor is different
[10:54] <serpentus> dwidmann: I tried..it only gives me bin 2 iso.... Well I'll keep trying..if not will have to go to reboot to Window$.... thank you
[10:54] <voicu> can anyone explain me briefly what do all the directories in /proc do? i understand that the numbers are processes with statistics and stuff but what is /proc/sys/net? is it some kind of configuration or what?
[10:55] <luca_b> Ashex: I use NX seldomly, but I never found myself in such a solution (I lock my workstation when I go home from work)
[10:55] <dwidmann> serpentus: if you've got something that can do it in windows, why not try to run it with wine?
[10:55] <voicu>  /proc/sys/net is just an example
[10:55] <Ashex> luca_b, yeah, I use it to connect to my home machine and do non-productive work
[10:55] <luca_b> voicu: basically an abstraction of what the kernel "sees" about your HW and other things related
[10:55] <coreire> dwidmann: is there a default? whatever xorg is using at the moment is fine
[10:56] <coreire> i just don't know what values xorg is using
[10:56] <luca_b> coreire: usually X tries to get the information via DDC, i.e. by requesting them directly to the monitor
[10:56] <crimsun> voicu: in dapper, edgy orfeisty?
[10:56] <jott> luca_b: NX allows to detach a session...
[10:56] <luca_b> jott: yes, but it doesn't "lock" a local session that is active
[10:57] <coreire> luca_b: is there any wat for me to find the values X is receiving?
[10:57] <voicu> luca_b: ok, so it's like you can change the kernel internal settings, right?
[10:57] <jetsaredim> getting rather frustrated
[10:57] <luca_b> jott: because it acts like a true terminal server (rather than what Microsoft does)
[10:57] <dwidmann> coreire: maybe
[10:57] <luca_b> voicu: some of them, yes
[10:57] <jetsaredim> I still can't seem to find a package that will allow dvd playback on kubuntu feisty
[10:57] <voicu> crimsun: edgy, but it *looks* like the problem i had, why not try it? you just have to wait for amarok to rescan the collection
[10:58] <coreire> dwidmann: any idea where to look?
[10:58] <voicu> ok, thanks luca_b
[10:58] <crimsun> voicu: the error I'm experiencing is a bit more difficult to diagnose, as there's no collection being generated from a fresh install at all [with the appropriate additional packages installed]
[10:58] <jott> luca_b: on the other hand you could use vnc then...
[10:59] <dwidmann> coreire: doesn't look like there are any clues in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, I'll take a look around elsewhere to see where it might put them
[10:59] <luca_b> jott: yes, that would work
[10:59] <goodthing> are there other apps than mythtv which are able to be controlled by a remote?
[11:00] <spitwise> does anyone know how to make amarok NOT launch everytime i click on an mp3?
[11:00] <jott> luca_b: or only use nx even for local sessions ;)
[11:00] <jetsaredim> can anyone tell me what I need to change to be able to install things like dvdcss, flash, java, etc??
[11:00] <voicu> crimsun: so what exactly happens, what errors do you get? do you want to create the collection and it doesn't go into sql or what?
[11:00] <spitwise> jetsaredim: have you edited your sources.list?
[11:00] <luca_b> spitwise: you can change associations in kcontrol
[11:01] <spitwise> sweet thanks luca_b
[11:01] <voicu> sorry for my limited vocabulary, it's late :D
[11:01] <coreire> dwidmann: ok thanks, i'm playing with the xorg.conf now, hopefully i'll figure out a way to get the res
[11:01] <luca_b> coreire: probably through the RandR applet
[11:02] <jetsaredim> spitwise: um - not sure - I added universe and multiverse to the lists of the feisty repos in the adept screens but that seems to have done nothing
[11:02] <luca_b> coreire: open a terminal and type "xrandr"
[11:02] <spitwise> after adding them you need to update
[11:02] <jetsaredim> but that was just a reaching at straws kind of thing
[11:02] <luca_b> it will type alll the resolutions and highlight the current one with an asterisk
[11:02] <dwidmann> hmm,  that's what I was just about to say too :\
[11:02] <spitwise> i don;'t use adept but in konsole you type sudo apt-get update
[11:03] <jetsaredim> spitwise: then what?
[11:03] <jetsaredim> I should be able to find the packages I need/want?
[11:04] <jott> there is even a kde frontend for randr called krandrtray :)
[11:04] <spitwise> jetsaredim: ya, but i don't know about dvd things .. i ain't got one
[11:04] <luca_b> I don't think dvdcss is in multiverse
[11:04] <dwidmann> !libdvdcss2
[11:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:05] <coreire> luca_b: its reports 1024x768 down to 400x300, 1024x768 has the asterisk
[11:05] <luca_b> coreire: that's your current res then
[11:05] <jetsaredim> yea - i went to those urls but they don't cover feisty
[11:05] <luca_b> jetsaredim: oh, I think there was a discussion on the kubuntu ML about feisty and DVD stuff
[11:05] <dwidmann> libdvdcss2 has been the same for a long, long, long while
[11:06] <LordOllie> hey hey
[11:06] <coreire> yes, but i can't find a way to add the 1360x768 res, i got 1280x768 and was able to use it, i then went into xorg.conf, edited 1280 to 1360, saved, rebooted, and now the max is 1024x768 again
[11:06] <jetsaredim> hm - apt-get update seems to have flagged some packages
[11:06] <dwidmann> hi LordOllie
[11:06] <LordOllie> has anyone succesfully installed banshee on edgy?
[11:06] <luca_b> coreire: that's an HD res, I assume?
[11:07] <cntb> can I change password create users in rescue mode thru alternateCD?
[11:07] <luca_b> jetsaredim: install libdvdread3
[11:07] <coreire> yes, its a 720p tv, with max res of 1366x768
[11:07] <dwidmann> coreire: the best way to get the right res would be to figure out your monitor's horizontal sync and vertical refresh values, then reconfigure X to use them
[11:07] <luca_b> jetsaredim: then try this - sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh -  I'm not sure if it will work *at all* but worth trying
[11:07] <coreire> dwidmann: ok thanks, i'll try to find out the values
[11:07] <serenity> hi
[11:08] <LordOllie> sorry about that, did I miss anyone's answer?
[11:08] <serenity> i share my desktop via krfb, is it possible to contact this desktop on windows?
[11:09] <jetsaredim> luca_b: I saw that in the docs, but I couldn't find that package anywhere
[11:09] <cntb> serenity krfb form other PC with windows?
[11:09] <shadowhywind> how does one change the the login screen
[11:09] <serenity> cntb: yes
[11:09] <jott> coreire: do you have a nvidia card and use the binary driver?
[11:09] <coreire> jott: i have an ATI, i'm downloadin the driver there now to see if it helps
[11:09] <luca_b> jetsaredim: hmm... unsure
[11:10] <soulrider> what command can i use to view how much ram and swap i have in use ?
[11:10] <dwidmann> soulrider: top
[11:10] <jott> soulrider: free
[11:11] <luca_b> coreire: check this out http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Modeline_Database
[11:11] <dwidmann> soulrider: that or hit ctrl+escape
[11:11] <coreire> luca_b: thanks
[11:11] <soulrider> thanks!
[11:11] <|Soul|Shadow|> np j/k
[11:12] <|Soul|Shadow|> ya see why I hate ubuntu, It would'nt even let me have a multi linux os 1 kubuntu 1 ubuntu server :^{
[11:13] <luca_b> coreire: beware, some snippets include references to the nvidia driver
[11:13] <VanessaE> eh, any linux distro can be run with multiple copies, just put them on different partitions.
[11:15] <|Soul|Shadow|> nah ubuntu would not function & wouldnt even let me set up he server
[11:15] <|Soul|Shadow|> even this install didnt give e optin to setup workgroup
[11:15] <VanessaE> hm
[11:15] <|Soul|Shadow|> face it ubuntu's gnome sux :P
[11:16] <coreire> luca_b: thanks a lot, the settings for the previous model of my tv are there, hopefully they'll work for mine. How exactly do i use the modeline info?
[11:16] <martijn__> hello
[11:16] <dwidmann> http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl <-- what a neat toy
[11:16] <^genius> =)
[11:17] <coreire> all i've got is ## DisplaySize             349 196
[11:17] <coreire> # Modeline                "1360x768" 85.500 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +Hsync +Vsync
[11:17] <coreire> dunno what to do with it
[11:18] <dwidmann> It goes in the xorg.conf file
[11:18] <|Soul|Shadow|> I basicly want to use samba to run a database server on kubuntu linux but windows wont see the linux pc, how do I fix this?  I cannot use linux on other machines either
[11:18] <|Soul|Shadow|> dwid plz dont post unknown scripts
[11:18] <LordOllie> has anyone installed banshee, that could point me in the direction of the solution to my problem?
[11:18] <|Soul|Shadow|> core dlete it, I would
[11:19] <|Soul|Shadow|> delete*
[11:19] <LordOllie> |Soul|Shadow| is that your solution to me?
[11:19] <LordOllie> *for
[11:19] <|Soul|Shadow|> no
[11:19] <LordOllie> ohhh, okay
[11:19] <LordOllie> never mind then
[11:19] <|Soul|Shadow|> banshee video card?
[11:20] <|Soul|Shadow|> I delt with em before what is the prob
[11:20] <LordOllie> no the gnome media player
[11:20] <|Soul|Shadow|> ur using gnome??
[11:21] <dwidmann> Might find better Gnome related answers in #ubuntu
[11:21] <|Soul|Shadow|> ok unplug ur pc & throw it agenst the wall 5 times then install kubuntu :P
[11:21] <|Soul|Shadow|> that'll fix it
[11:21] <VanessaE> wtf?
[11:21] <LordOllie> but, I installed it on kubuntu from adept, or still #ubuntu?
[11:22] <|Soul|Shadow|> gnome sux man its how u fix a gnome issue
[11:22] <dwidmann> |Soul|Shadow|: if I found my computer running GNOME, I'm sure I would do that :P
[11:22] <rEvolution27> man i hate the ubuntu channell... you kde guys rock
[11:22] <VanessaE> if you don't like gnome don't sit in here bashing it; use something else.
[11:22] <|Soul|Shadow|> yeah u gotta install kubuntu from disk otherwise it has alot of missing things
[11:23] <|Soul|Shadow|> im using kde
[11:23] <VanessaE> as am I.
[11:23] <dwidmann> LordOllie: last scraps? "dpkg --purge guarddog" should have taken care of that
[11:23] <rEvolution27> I have a file that doesn't exist on my desktop, how do I delete it?
[11:23] <|Soul|Shadow|> U try convert gnome to kde al u get is POS :P
[11:24] <VanessaE> eh, all you have to do is *install* KDE.
[11:24] <dwidmann> rEvolution27: try refreshing the desktop
[11:24] <LordOllie> dwidmann: I did, there was still guarddog config's, icons, scripts, and it still controlled my iptables
[11:24] <VanessaE> you don't have to "convert" anything.
[11:24] <|Soul|Shadow|> not through gnome u cant it has alot of missing files
[11:24] <VanessaE> yes you can.
[11:24] <VanessaE> it's not a gnome thing
[11:24] <dwidmann> LordOllie: How evil of it ... purge is supposed to dump the configs ...
[11:24] <VanessaE> and you don't *have* to use synaptic either.
[11:24] <|Soul|Shadow|> only if you wanan screw up ur pc
[11:24] <VanessaE> you can use adept or command line tools.
[11:24] <hatta> <3 aptitude
[11:25] <VanessaE> or aptitude :)
[11:25] <|Soul|Shadow|> yeah I know I did adeept to update gnome to kde before I ended up with half installed kd e & alot of errors
[11:25] <jott> or raw dpkg :p
[11:25] <dwidmann> jott, that would be as bad as .... raw rpm. No, just no.
[11:27] <|Soul|Shadow|> l8tr
[11:27] <VanessaE> gevalt!
[11:28] <rEvolution27> I refreshed the desktop and the file is still there but with a lock on it
[11:29] <coreire> i'm trying to run a driver installer. "sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run". But am getting error "can't open ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run". As far as i can remember i used to have to set some attribute to open these?
[11:37] <ceritus> can anyone tell me how to enable s-video out?
[11:37] <flaccid> i'd like to know that as well
[11:38] <ceritus> i've looked all around in my system settings and can't figure it out. help?!?!?
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> ceritus: bash ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run
[11:39] <QUINTIX256> need help:
[11:39] <ceritus> can you explain (completel noob) what exactley that will do?
[11:39] <QUINTIX256> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9746, but
[11:39] <QUINTIX256> this X module has the version 1.0-8776.  Please make sure that the kernel
[11:39] <QUINTIX256> module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[11:39] <cntb> vivery buggy on rescue alternateCD what other editor? help
[11:39] <flaccid> ceritus: it will do nothing as you havnt even downloaded that file to pwd
[11:40] <Alarm> hello. when trying to upgrade the packages i get the following error: Err http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe wine 0.9.30-0ubuntu2~edgy1
[11:40] <Alarm>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]  Get:1 http://www.getautomatix.com edgy/main automatix2 1.1-2.14-6.10edgy_i386 [196kB]
[11:40] <Alarm> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missin
[11:40] <Alarm> why is that happening
[11:40] <flaccid> Alarm: it means that package doesn't exist on the server
[11:41] <Alarm> well it happened also with automatix
[11:41] <jhutchins> Alarm: Maybe a bad mirror?
[11:41] <Alarm> well with 2 different packages ?
[11:41] <jhutchins> Alarm: When was the last time you updated the apt databases?
[11:41] <Alarm> 2 mins ago
[11:41] <jhutchins> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[11:41] <Alarm> and then i did try the upgrade
[11:42] <flaccid> it probably doesn't exist on the gr. mirror or getautomatix.com
[11:42] <Alarm> and saw 2 packages available, but none of those two is being downloaded
[11:42] <flaccid> yeah so the packages dont exist on the server
[11:42] <jhutchins> Alarm: It's probably a mirroring problem with the servers, which means you'll just have to wait for it to work it's way out of the system.
[11:42] <Alarm> okie...
[11:43] <jhutchins> Alarm: Like the package list has been updated, but the actual packages haven't reached the server yet.
[11:43] <flaccid> so you change to a dif source that has them or you remove them
[11:45] <Alarm> one more question. when installing for example kdeartwork , it installs automatically. The following NEW packages will be installed:
[11:45] <Alarm>   kdeartwork kdeartwork-emoticons kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-icon... and some other packages, when removing with apt-get remove kdeartwork , will it also remove all those packages that has installed automatically or i need another command ?
[11:46] <Tm_T> Alarm: Nope.
[11:47] <Alarm> Tm_T,  nope, i dont need any other command, nop it will not remove all the packages? be more specific
[11:49] <jhutchins> Alarm: One way to be sure.
[11:49] <jhutchins> Make a list of the packages.  Run the command. See what happens. Remove the other packages if needed.
[11:49] <Alarm> okie
[11:50] <Tm_T> Alarm: It does remove only the artwork metapackage.
[11:50] <Alarm> Tm_T,  and what happens with the rest? how can i remove everything that was installed with that package as well ?
[11:51] <Tm_T> Alarm: Well, separately, yeah, it stinks, but that's how it works.
[11:51] <jhutchins> One-way link.
[11:51] <jhutchins> That ought to be fixed.
[11:52] <Alarm> okie, and a last question (i hope at least, also for ur own good :) ) , whats the difference between purge and remove
[11:52] <Tm_T> Alarm: Dunno how well does apt-get remind you those "now unneeded packages"
[11:52] <jetsaredim> I installed libdvdread3 and I don't have that script that's supposed to set everything up for you
[11:52] <Alarm> Tm_T,  apt-get autoremove . but that doesnt remove also things that have been installed with the another application
[11:52] <Tm_T> Alarm: Purge does take also config files etc
[11:52] <jetsaredim> nor can I read dvds
[11:53] <jetsaredim> if I can't get this shit figured out - I'm going back to gentoo
[11:53] <jetsaredim> this is crazy
[11:53] <Alarm> well, then purge cleans the system a bit more than remove...
[11:53] <cntb> whatsup matsavhalev_
[11:53] <jetsaredim> why can't I say that I want to install a given package and just get the right crap
[11:53] <Tm_T> Alarm: Yes it does.
[11:53] <coreire> i'm trying to run a driver installer. "sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run". But am getting error "can't open ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run". As far as i can remember i used to have to set some attribute to open these?
[11:54] <jhutchins> jetsaredim: You're dealing with the problems of working around the insane U.S. copyright/IP laws.
[11:54] <jetsaredim> why is it ubuntu foundation's problem if I install dvdcss
[11:54] <jhutchins> jetsaredim: The software to play a CSS encoded DVD on Linux is illegal in the U.S.  The guy who wrote it went to jail.
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> coreire: chmod +x
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> coreire: but you need to run it with bash not dash
[11:55] <jetsaredim> yea - i know that
[11:55] <jetsaredim> but why is it so damned hard to find the package
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> sh = dash
[11:55] <johny_> jetsaredim: is that true?
[11:55] <jetsaredim> what true?
[11:55] <jhutchins> jetsaredim: So ubuntu would rather concentrate on all the other things you can do with a linux PC than go to jail.
[11:55] <coreire> h3sp4wn:how do i use bash?
[11:55] <johny_> what's the guy's name?
[11:55] <jetsaredim> I'd like it to do desktop pc like things
[11:55] <thompa> my printer wont print and I am clueless?
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> coreire: instead of sh ./ just use bash ./
[11:56] <johny_> jetsaredim: what's the guy's name?
[11:56] <jetsaredim> I can gt this all working in gentoo in a couple days
[11:56] <coreire> ok, thanks a lot
[11:56] <jhutchins> jetsaredim: You can always do it yourself, it's just a matter of learning the right things.
[11:56] <jetsaredim> dvd jon
[11:56] <johny_> He's not in jail
[11:56] <jetsaredim> yea - no crap
[11:56] <thompa> laserjet-1018 ready, state job stopped...
[11:56] <jetsaredim> but I can't seem to find the information and no one on here seems to know either
[11:56] <jhutchins> jetsaredim: Many people have been able to get it to work in ubuntu too.  I haven't gone that far yet, because I don't watch encrypted DVD's on my kubuntu box, or my other workstation for that matter.
[11:56] <jetsaredim> I'll have to go to the forums
[11:57] <jhutchins> jetsaredim: I hate to make it seem like I'm blaming you, but you're probably asking the wrong questions.
[11:57] <h3sp4wn> !restricted
[11:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:57] <jhutchins> jetsaredim: Yeah, have you read thost three?
[11:57] <jhutchins> (Well, the first two.)
[11:57] <jetsaredim> yes i have
[11:57] <jhutchins> Ok.
[11:57] <jetsaredim> but they don't mention feisty
[11:57] <jhutchins> Oh.
[11:58] <jhutchins> That's because feisty isn't finished yet.
[11:58] <jetsaredim> heaven forbid I want to use the latest version
[11:58] <jetsaredim> so I should install edgy?
[11:58] <jhutchins> If you want stuff to just work, go back to edgy.  Feisty is testing, it's available for people to find bugs in.
[11:58] <jetsaredim> hmm ok
[11:58] <jetsaredim> I'll try that
[11:58] <jetsaredim> I'll be back
[11:58] <jetsaredim> /q
[11:59] <jhutchins> Mandriva makes a pretty big point that the whole purpose of Cooker is to find bugs, and you should expect it to be broken.  Why doesn't ubuntu do the same?
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> It does
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> (To a point anyway - but it doesn't change as much as rawhide or cooker)
[12:01] <jhutchins> THe distros need to do that on their beryl packages too.
[12:01] <jhutchins> all the distros.
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> Waste of time beryl I think
[12:03] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm silly question... if one install Fiesty Fawn Herd 3, which is womewhat an alpha release, and keep the system updated with the new packages that gets released will it thus "automagically" become stable once the "real deal" is released? I mean it should since you update all the packages all the time and such?
[12:03] <andre> h3sp4wn I disagree it has some very good features and enhancements
[12:03] <soul-shadow> Need help im trying to run fileshare to odify shares & says I need root access, I tell it login root acces & it still all greyed out
[12:03] <jhutchins> Captain_Redbeard: I believe it has worked that way in the past.
[12:03] <cntb> check this out http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6332441.stm
[12:04] <Captain_Redbeard> jhutchins: yea just what I was thinking...
[12:04] <jhutchins> Captain_Redbeard: That's one of the things about the named releases, as opposed to "devel" or "unstable"
[12:04] <cntb> on trial for using pirated PCs
[12:04] <cntb> they should install ten of thousands of linux boxes in schools
[12:05] <cntb> sorry for off-topic
[12:05] <Captain_Redbeard> Bah the mirror to fownload it is mad slow though :P
[12:05] <Captain_Redbeard> *download
[12:05] <jhutchins> cntb: You could have tried for a save by suggesting they use kubuntu...
[12:05] <jhutchins> Captain_Redbeard: Try another mirror.
[12:06] <Captain_Redbeard> jhutchins: there are none listed
[12:06] <jhutchins> !mirrors
[12:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:06] <phobiac> Do the gstreamer plugins and libxine-extracodecs packages work in kubuntu or do I need a different set of pacakages?
[12:06] <phobiac> packages*
[12:07] <Captain_Redbeard> I trust you've all seen http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno btw? :)
[12:07] <jhutchins> Hm.  A lot of the mirrors will also have feisty.
[12:07] <cntb> jhutchins: BTW burned a kubuntu DVD the other day and it booted but failed install
[12:08] <cntb> !mirrors
[12:08] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:08] <johny_> !fglrx
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <phobiac> Captain_Redbeard: I saw it, but I can't stand Opie and Anthony.
[12:08] <Captain_Redbeard> jhutchins: already checked those without any luck... or well not all of them obviously but a fair share of them
[12:10] <Captain_Redbeard> 50KB/sec :P and the torrent doesn't work >.<
[12:10] <Alarm> is there a way to change the colour of the fonts that are displayed in the taskbar (those that show the opened windows). as also if it is possible when rolling over of the applications,placed in the taskbar not to turn gray