[09:08] <rexy_> for laptops however the big energy suckers are your cpu, screen and wireless
[09:08] <decay> cristi01, they do work well on 32bit though :)
[09:08] <doug_> well not ur fault lappy u done nothing wrong
[09:08] <chuy_max> Flannel, I guess I just have an old PC =(, it delayed more than 10 mins in 6%, P3 @ 1Ghz
[09:08] <doug_> btw cute name lappy
[09:08] <b0xii> cristi01: shy away from the 64bit distros for a while until all the kinks get worked out
[09:09] <cristi01> b0xii: hmmm so what do i do meanwhile?
[09:09] <Flannel> chuy_max: Are you sure the CD is good?  It can't hurt to restart right now (well, except the lost time), if you want to reboot and verify the CD
[09:09] <b0xii> cristi01:  i know these things shoud've been taken care of a loooong time ago, but i've had an AMD 5000+ that I still cant use for 1.5 yrs on a 64 bit linux platform
[09:10] <dashgr> rexy_: oh rexy, welcome back...still having some sound problems
[09:10] <Lappy> doug_: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml try this one out maybe?
[09:10] <cristi01> b0xii: lol :)))
[09:10] <b0xii> cristi01: install x86 version
[09:10] <Lappy> doug_: thanks. :)
[09:10] <chuy_max> Flannel, yeah, I installed my desktop PC with the same CD a month ago, checked it at the time, it's not scratched
[09:10] <cristi01> b0xii: ok installing it now
[09:11] <b0xii> cristi01, it will work just as well unless you have 4+GB ram
[09:11] <rexy_> mojojojo_: have a browse on the ubuntu forum about frequency scaling maybe you are able to get it down a bit
[09:11] <Flannel> chuy_max: well, Go do something else, have some tea or something, and then come back and see if it's changed.
[09:11] <doug_> lappy yw and oh oh oh nonono lappy bad one it cashed me few times lol
[09:11] <b0xii> that's when the 64bit shit kicks in
[09:11] <rexy_> dashgr: you dont have any sound at all?
[09:11] <dashgr> rexy_: yea no sound at all
[09:11] <mojojojo_> rexy_:  ok, I'll do that
[09:11] <xor> 1
[09:11] <xor> ls
[09:12] <rexy_> dashgr: have you checked your card is supported?
[09:12] <rexy_> !sound
[09:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:12] <matti> Morning :)
[09:12] <dashgr> rexy_: i believe my card is supported because i used to have sound when turning on and turning off my computer
[09:12] <dashgr> rexy_: and when i check alsa it reads my card as it is
[09:13] <rexy_> hmm that would mean your sound works, but that you dont have sound with a particular app
[09:13] <rexy_> if you restart now do you have sound?
[09:13] <Lappy> doug_: well good luck, I think you can ask in #compiz-fusion
[09:13] <cristi01> b0xii: well it still doesn't work ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[09:13] <cristi01>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[09:13] <cristi01> god damn it
[09:14] <z0rz> Hmm
[09:14] <rexy_> that makes sense, since there is no 64 bit version ?
[09:14] <b0xii> cristi01: no, reinstall w/ a x86 version of ubuntu
[09:14] <Al2O3> wow, reading about one or two or more people's horror stories about godaddy.com I will not use them for sure.
[09:14] <z0rz> Everytime I try to play a mp3 in mpg123 it gives me "[../../../src/audio.c:264]  error: No supported rate found!"
[09:14] <b0xii> cristi01, or else you'll run into other problems like the flash under x64
[09:14] <rexy_> Al203 you get what you pay for, also #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:14] <Al2O3> have to admin, the go daddy juggs are nice and milky cold.
[09:14] <dashgr> rexy_: yea i tried restarting but no sound
[09:15] <Al2O3> rexy_: thanks.
[09:15] <cristi01> boxii: oooooh right...
[09:15] <rexy_> did you checl all your sliders dash?
[09:15] <b0xii> flash is not yet supported under x64
[09:15] <b0xii> its gay i know
[09:15] <Al2O3> just joined #ubu-oft
[09:15] <rexy_> if you had sound on startup/shutdown it has worked
[09:15] <cristi01> jesus..
[09:15] <cristi01> lucky me
[09:15] <dashgr> rexy_: how can i check my "sliders"
[09:15] <rexy_> check the sound icon
[09:15] <cristi01> b0xii: thanks a lot anyway
[09:15] <dashgr> rexy_: sorry i dont know wat sliders are =(
[09:16] <dashgr> rexy_: my sound icon says there's sound available
[09:16] <rexy_> click on it and look at the slider
[09:16] <cristi01> bye
[09:16] <dashgr> rexy_: it's at 72%
[09:18] <rexy_> dashgr: right click on the sound icon and select volume control
[09:18] <rexy_> you see a bunch of sliders?
[09:18] <hypodyne> gday all
[09:18] <dashgr> rexy_: yea they're all up
[09:19] <rexy_> do master or pcm have a red X?
[09:19] <hypodyne> how do I update gaim?
[09:19] <dashgr> rexy_: no there's no red x
[09:19] <xor> anyone know if items on deleted from xfce's desktop can go to ~/.Trash instead of trash:///
[09:20] <rexy_> start a terminal and type ps ufax | grep esd
[09:20] <rexy_> should print a line or two/three
[09:20] <rexy_> it's a pipe sign |
[09:20] <dashgr> ok
[09:21] <dashgr> /bin/esd -terminate -nobeeps -as 1 -spawnfd 24
[09:21] <dashgr> dashgr    6131  0.0  0.3   5416  3704 ?        S    01:57   0:00  \_ /usr/bin/esd -terminate -nobeeps -as 1 -spawnfd 24
[09:21] <dashgr> dashgr    9723  0.0  0.0   2880   752 pts/0    S+   03:21   0:00      \_ grep esd
[09:21] <rexy_> dont post that here, heh
[09:21] <rexy_> but ok, esd is running
[09:21] <rexy_> start totem
[09:22] <dashgr> ok
[09:22] <rexy_> and open up the Examples directory in your home dir and open Experience obuntu.ogg
[09:22] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Is there a difference between 'to print' and 'to print out' as in "a function that prints out a message, during bootup"?
[09:22] <rexy_> Is it playing?
[09:22] <HelpMe> Hello, whenever I play video on my Ubuntu Laptop, the video is kinda choppy, like when a camera is moving side to side it gets anoying because it looks choppy, how do i fix this?
[09:22] <z0rz> Everytime I try to play a mp3 in mpg123 it gives me "[../../../src/audio.c:264]  error: No supported rate found!".  Anyone know how to fix this?  (happens on both my ubuntu boxes)
[09:22] <Flannel> bullgard4: no
[09:23] <sauvin> "print out" is often taken to mean "to the printer".
[09:23] <bullgard4> Flannel: Understood.
[09:23] <rexy_> z0rz: restricted formats perhaps
[09:23] <rexy_> !restricted > z0rz
[09:23] <z0rz> Ah!
[09:23] <z0rz> Haha yes they are
[09:23] <z0rz> Damn mp3!!
[09:23] <dashgr> rexy_: it's playing but there's no sound
[09:23] <sauvin> mp3 is restricted?
[09:23] <rexy_> yep
[09:24] <rexy_> dashgr: click on the sound icon in totem
[09:24] <rexy_> what is the slider at?
[09:24] <T-Doomday> Need help please. I get a error on this. ./configure --prefix=/home/mitchell/Programs/Wine --target make depend && make && sudo make install
[09:24] <dashgr> about 75%
[09:24] <arooni> folks
[09:25] <dashgr> rexy_:about 75%
[09:25] <arooni> i need to wipe my laptop because i'm returning it tomorrow.... what should i use to do this?
[09:25] <rexy_> dashgr: are you sure you sound is connected properly?
[09:25] <rexy_> arooni if you are not paranoid a simple format would do the trick
[09:25] <faileas> arooni: wipe it totally? how about boot and nuke?
[09:25] <dashgr> rexy_: i'm not sure, how can i check? I think it's correctly correctly
[09:25] <arooni> faileas, what do u mean boot & nuke?
[09:26] <arooni> rexy_, simple format writes 0's ?
[09:26] <faileas> arooni: its a livecd darik's boot and nuke
[09:26] <rexy_> dashgr:  i have no idea how you should wire up your computer, check your manual how to connect the cables
[09:26] <arooni> faileas, ooooh cool
[09:26] <rexy_> arooni: format just erases the inode tables
[09:26] <rexy_> it doesnt erase the data
[09:26] <arooni> faileas, how long does that take?
[09:26] <arooni> for a 100 gb drive?
[09:26] <rexy_> but it requires some effort to get back
[09:26] <dashgr> rexy_: i'm on a laptop
[09:26] <faileas> arooni: takes a while
[09:26] <bullgard4> sauvin: Thank you for explaining.
[09:27] <rexy_> do you have a sound control on the laptop desh, a slider of sorts?
[09:27] <sauvin> Depends on who's making the effort. The crime lab at Quantico probably wouldn't even notice a few missing inodes.
[09:27] <arooni> faileas, would it be done overnight?
[09:27] <faileas> arooni: probably. depends on how many passes
[09:27] <dashgr> rexy_: it conrols the master sound and wheni adjust is raises or lowers the master
[09:27] <dashgr> rexy_: and i raised it to max
[09:27] <arooni> faileas, can i do it for certain partitions
[09:28] <arooni> faileas, i want the laptop to still boot to windows tomorrow
[09:28] <rexy_> !sound > me
[09:28] <arooni> so they can verify it works
[09:28] <z0rz> Bah humbug!
[09:28] <faileas> arooni: i can't remember, check it?
[09:28] <arooni> and so i just want to blow away my linux partitions
[09:28] <z0rz> Rexy I went to that page, but I accidently skipped passed the 7.04 instructions and went straight to the 6.10 instructions and did them.
[09:28] <sauvin> So, blast 'em, delete 'em and use gparted or something to expand the Windows partition to the entire drive.
[09:28] <faileas> arooni: if its just a partition, you could probably run secure delete from windows... its meant for files but would work
[09:29] <sauvin> Why do you want the linux partitions gone?
[09:29] <Geoffrey2> if I'm trying to block ads, etc in my web browser, the addresses go in /etc/hosts?
[09:29] <rexy_> Geoffrey2: that will work yes
[09:29] <arooni> sauvin, cuz i'm returning my laptop tomorrow...and if they boot to see if it works when i return it... i want them to see windows
[09:29] <rexy_> dashgr: then i dont know, it should work really
[09:30] <sauvin> So set grub to launch Windows automatically.
[09:30] <dashgr> rexy_: thats ok, thanks for trying
[09:30] <rexy_> arooni just remaster it with your windows disks then?
[09:30] <arooni> yah i guess i could rexy_ y
[09:30] <rexy_> dashgr: if you had sound at startup you could try a reinstall, obviously something is messed up, but if the startup sound works then your card is supported
[09:31] <rexy_> arooni: unless you are really paranoid about people retrieving data from your disk there is not much to worry about, a simple reinstall of windows will make retrieving any data on it pretty hard. Off course if you have materials on there you wouldn't want to end up on the internet erasing isnt a bad idea
[09:34] <Flannel> arooni: shred
[09:35] <Geoffrey2> rexy_, with the only hitch being that I get Unable to Connect messages where the ads used to be....minor annoyance I guess...at least my browser isn't locking up now
[09:35] <mattg> hey, where do i get vmware from?
[09:36] <supoib> does anyone have any experience with sending sms messages to a phone from ubuntu?
[09:37] <Dougie> I used gparted to resize my file partition...and i think it screwed it up i can't seem to mount the drive
[09:37] <rexy_> Geoffrey2: well you can use the adblock plugin for firefox
[09:37] <rexy_> supoib: try gnoki
[09:37] <rexy_> it interfaces with a nokia to send sms messages
[09:38] <rexy_> if you mean websites i'm sure there is an applet that interfaces with one of them, google will tell you
[09:38] <mojojojo_> How can I check which frequencies my cpu provides?
[09:38] <figjam> morning chaps
[09:38] <Dougie> mojojojo, not really anything to do with your OS but what cpu do you have?
[09:39] <rexy_> mojojojo_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248867 it's a bit outdated but some usefull information in there
[09:39] <jscinoz> is it just me or is sound from OSS very tinny?
[09:40] <Dougie> whats wrong with ALSA?
[09:40] <supoib> rexy_: thanks for the suggestion, but from the looks of it it's only for nokia phones
[09:40] <rexy_> supoib: think so, there are some other apps for it too,been awhile since i played with it. i'm sure google will turn up a program which is already in the ubuntu repo
[09:41] <supoib> yea, i've been looking at smssend
[09:41] <jscinoz> the .10 kernel killed ALSA :P
[09:41] <supoib> the attwireless script doesn't work
[09:41] <supoib> and no updates to it
[09:42] <rexy_> supoib: i guess there isnt much demand for it
[09:42] <IAmWill> i am trying to pull emerald, but it depends on libwnck18 which isnt installable. How do I make libwnck18 installable so I can get emerald?
[09:42] <jscinoz> anyone know how to pair a new bluetooth device via bluetooth-applet?
[09:42] <supoib> rexy_: seems that way.
[09:43] <supoib> rexy_: but that's the beauty of open source, i can take a look at the app and see if i can write my own script
[09:44] <rexy_> yeah, but honestly why would you want to since you can use free sms services on the web
[09:44] <jscinoz> How can i pair a bluetooth device to my laptop via blue-tooth applet?
[09:44] <supoib> i need to automate this
[09:44] <supoib> for a cron job or whatever
[09:45] <decay> supoib, hi
[09:45] <supoib> hi
[09:45] <supoib> or if i'm away from the computer and have a long job running, i'd like to know when it's done or what-have-you
[09:46] <supoib> i can think of a myriad of applications of this
[09:46] <mojojojo_> rexy_:  yeah, I visited this link beforehand, but I can't seem to find any information which frequencies are available on my laptop... from what I found managed to read there are 3 frequencies among which 1GHz (which I is currently set) is the lowest... I'm just wondering whether it's a linux matter or is it that hardware only provides only these 3 options...
[09:47] <rexy_> i'd guess hardware mojojojo_
[09:47] <faileas> mojojojo_: as i understand. yeah, there's only 3 levels for freqency
[09:47] <rexy_> scaling down frequency has a big impact though
[09:48] <binMonkey> i keep hearing about how bad ndiswrapper is.  can i use madwifi for bm4318 cards.
[09:48] <rexy_> and your processor will idle as much as it can itself too
[09:48] <mojojojo_> hmm.. what about turning of one of the cores... is it possible?
[09:48] <mojojojo_> turning off*
[09:49] <rexy_> probably not
[09:50] <binMonkey> should be bcm4318.
[09:50] <rexy_> you can turn of your wifi when you are not online to save energy, and you can use function keys to dim the lcd screen
[09:50] <nathan___> if anyone knows how to install compiz fusion on ubuntu, I could use the help
[09:50] <supoib> rexy_: i have another question, do you know of a free web based sms service?
[09:50] <rexy_> supoib: honestly did you try google before asking?
[09:50] <supoib> yea
[09:51] <supoib> so much junk
[09:51] <r00723r0> i know one off the top of my head
[09:51] <Flannel> binMonkey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/bcm43xx-fwcutter
[09:51] <r00723r0> supoib: i don't think you did google
[09:51] <nathan___> if anyone knows how to install compiz fusion on ubuntu, I could use the help
[09:51] <r00723r0> "free sms" gives great links
[09:52] <r00723r0> http://www.sendsmsnow.com/
[09:52] <ThanatosDrive> nathan__: #ubuntu-effects
[09:52] <binMonkey> Flannel: thanks.  i tried that one before but it kept dropping on me.  so far ndiswrapper works for me but i wonder if there's something better out there.
[09:52] <nathan___> no one in there
[09:52] <supoib> too bad they append spam to the end of the message
[09:53] <Evan_> can anybody help me with my wireless prob. i seem to be connected to the network but i cant acess the net
[09:53] <supoib> Evan_: do you have encryption on your wireless?
[09:53] <pike_> Evan_: can you ping the router?
[09:54] <ashu18> what's a monitor sync problem?
[09:54] <Evan_> im i have a encryped password but i got entered that and am connected to the network
[09:54] <Evan_> how do i ping the router?
[09:54] <ThanatosDrive> nathan__: Well, that can't be right, beause I'm in there, and I see 72 other people in there.
[09:55] <pike_> Evan_: wep or wpa?
[09:55] <decay> your sync rates are wrong
[09:55] <decay> eithe vertical or horizontal, or both
[09:55] <Evan_> pike_wep
[09:55] <ashu18> my ubuntu splash screen isn't showing up and the display is a bit weird too
[09:56] <supoib> Evan_: i'd suggest you first turn off the encryption and verify that works
[09:56] <jscinoz> How can i pair a new device using bluetooth-applet
[09:56] <ashu18> it happened after i swapped my standby motherboard with my original one
[09:56] <pike_> Evan_: so basiaclly youre doing 1) sudo iwconfig eth1 essid someroutername key 12345567 2) sudo dhclient eth1  and getting an ip address?
[09:56] <rexy_> !bluetooth
[09:56] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:57] <Evan_> well ubuntu says i am connected at 84% strength i have like steps telling me the strength not two computers
[09:57] <pike_> Evan_: really mac filtering is not broadcasting ssid is about as secure as adding wep into the mix. its so easy to crack
[09:57] <pike_> is/and
[09:58] <Evan_> my router said when i added the wep that ssid would be turnt off
[09:58] <binMonkey> is madwifi for atheros chipsets only or can i use it with bcm4318 also?
[09:59] <rexy_> !wifi > binMonkey
[09:59] <rexy_> there is a link in there as well specific for that chipset i believe
[10:00] <binMonkey> rexy_: a link in where?
[10:00] <rexy_> !wifi
[10:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:00] <rexy_> there
[10:00] <Evan_> pike_ i my wireless isnt at eth1
[10:00] <TooR4u> How to make the background of the desktop transparent by using beryl??
[10:01] <Till__> hi @ all i have ubuntu 7.10 and i cant creat ne fils with right click new file empty file. why doesn't this work?
[10:01] <paines> hi
[10:01] <pike_> Evan_: yeah that was just an example youd replace device name with whatever yours is and of course first sudo ifconfig devicename up
[10:01] <binMonkey> rexy_: i just googled !wifi and notwifi and found nothing.  what am i not understanding?
[10:01] <rexy_> !wifi
[10:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:02] <Evan_> pike_ i dont know what my device is i bought it yesterday and it pluged and played
[10:02] <rexy_> ubotu bot links to where you want to go
[10:02] <binMonkey> !wifi
[10:02] <Evan_> i think its a expresscard
[10:02] <rexy_> oh it's private, sorry thought it would be sent here
[10:02] <binMonkey> rexy_: what does that mean?
[10:02] <mojojojo_> rexy_:  I found neat console utility... cpufreq-selector... you can choose CPU governor.. it's quite comfortable...
[10:02] <nathan___> if anyone knows how to install compiz fusion on ubuntu, I could use the help
[10:02] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  What is the name of the app that sits by the clock that deals with wireless connections?
[10:02] <binMonkey> nm-applet
[10:02] <Till__> some one an idea?
[10:02] <rexy_> mojojojo_: you only use that to set the policy, the default one seems to work fine for me
[10:03] <root> hi
[10:03] <paines> can i install a specific wine version via apt? cause apt-get will pull the latest version, but I need an older version like 0.9.40~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1 instead of 0.9.43~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1
[10:03] <rexy_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs just go there binMonkey , it should link to a page specific for your card
[10:03] <rexy_>  the ! thing is just a control for the bot in this channel to pump it for information
[10:04] <Till__> hi i have ubuntu 7.10 and i cant creat ne fils with right click new file empty file. why doesn't this work?
[10:04] <supoib> nathan__: type glxinfo | grep rendering in console. what does it say?
[10:04] <binMonkey> will someone tell me what !wifi means, please?  maybe i'm just not hip to the irc lingo.
[10:04] <pike_> Evan_: id disable wep on the router. you can always enable it later.  sorry im not going to be alot of help right now
[10:04] <nathan___> yes
[10:04] <Euphidime> I have a quick question relating to mouse problems, it isn't terribly important. I have a standard two button USB mouse with a scroll wheel. Scrolling with the wheel works fine, but clicking with it doesn't. Usually I click with the scroll wheel to open/close tabs in Firefox, which is why it's really bothering me that it's not working. Any suggestions?
[10:04] <rexy_> binMonkey: it just controls a bot in this channel
[10:04] <binMonkey> !
[10:04] <Evan_> im not quite sure how to turn the wep off
[10:04] <rexy_> check the link i pasted and go from there to get wifi working
[10:05] <binMonkey> rexy_: sorry, but how do i use it?
[10:05] <ziroday> !welcome | binMonkey
[10:05] <ubotu> binMonkey: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[10:05] <rexy_> !wifi | binMonkey
[10:05] <ubotu> binMonkey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:05] <supoib> nathan__: did you read any of their docs?
[10:05] <TIARA> halo
[10:05] <binMonkey> !wifi | binMonkey
[10:05] <rexy_> there that link is where you can find information about setting up wifi
[10:05] <ziroday> binMonkey: you have to have a word after it like !welcome or !bot to use it
[10:05] <nathan___> yes and I've tried 2 different sources and also an automated script
[10:05] <ziroday> !bot > binMonkey
[10:05] <m0u5e> anyone know why flash is so incredibly slow on ubuntu?
[10:06] <rexy_> m0u5e: what kind of computer?
[10:06] <m0u5e> i have the adobe-flash plugin installed, but its just incredibly slow
[10:06] <nathan___> so freaking hard to install one damn program =/
[10:06] <m0u5e> rexy_: 2.8ghz p4 intel i845
[10:06] <binMonkey> !bot > binMonkey
[10:06] <rexy_> hmm odd
[10:06] <m0u5e> rexy_: 512mb ram
[10:06] <m0u5e> rexy_ yeah... is there a setting somewhere i can change about flash?
[10:06] <pike_> Euphidime: you could always do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  but unless you know a bit about what youre doing you might be worse off afterwards.
[10:06] <rexy_> dunno m0u5e, did you try googling for flash ubuntu problems?
[10:06] <ziroday> nathan__its really easy use trveniho repos and just sudo apt-get then correct pacakges
[10:07] <m0u5e> rexy_: yeah, i dont see any ones which are similar... so i wonder if its something with my configs?
[10:07] <nathan___> I keep running into trouble with that
[10:07] <nathan___> it is the buggiest program ever possibly
[10:07] <rexy_> m0u5e: honestly your guess is as good as mine
[10:07] <rexy_> nathan__ what are you trying to install?
[10:07] <Will> Hi, I'm running Xubuntu, but I have done an alternative install, so I'm at the terminal. I did "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" and it installed it, however, what is the command to boot the desktop up?
[10:08] <rexy_> will startx
[10:08] <Will> ty
[10:08] <doug_> CF_Installer-Updater_v.3.sh i used this to isntall compiz fusion but it wont work now i cant get it to unisntall all the crap it installed and i tried the uninstall it had it didnt work
[10:08] <doug_> any ideas
[10:08] <doug_> i asked in ubunut effects
[10:08] <rexy_> its a slower channel doug_ if anyone know the answer they'll respond, eventually
[10:09] <doug_> rexy i have
[10:09] <m0u5e> anyone else's flash is incredibly slow?
[10:09] <doug_> im waiting for an answer as we speak rexy
[10:09] <Till__> hi i have ubuntu 7.10 and i cant creat ne fils with right click new file empty file. why doesn't this work? help
[10:09] <iceek> I have problem with page loading under ubuntu 7.04 (don't care what browser), some pages dont load, some stop loading in half way, some works normaly, I have cable internet and router/gateway to home network. In wireshark I can see wrpong checksum in some packet or something like that :(. Same problem with newest gentoo ive cd. Older distribs are OK. What is wrong?? I try turn off ipv6, it didn't help :( ...
[10:09] <m0u5e> rexy_: i wonder if its my graphics card... do you know if flash as of default, direct renders to the graphics card?
[10:10] <rexy_> Till__: are you running gutsy? also check if your disk is full, also if you're new better just install feisty
[10:10] <binMonkey> rexy_: and ziro, thanks.  where can i learn more about how to use the bot stuff?
[10:10] <rexy_> m0u5e: maybe if it's using 3d stuff, you could try installing the binary drivers
[10:10] <thyko> hello all
[10:11] <rexy_> binMonkey: dunno, it's just to automate handing some information
[10:11] <thyko> im trying to follow this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-106186.html
[10:11] <thyko> but the sourceforge server seems to be down
[10:11] <Till__> rexy_: yes gutsy, i did yesterday sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, the system look likes good :) the disj isn't full...
[10:11] <thyko> is there somewhere else i can get the source
[10:11] <thyko> ?
[10:12] <rexy_> thyko: i'd venture a guess and say that howto is out of data
[10:12] <GIn> hello
[10:12] <Will> What is the best DOS to use in linux?
[10:12] <rexy_> !wifi | thyko start there
[10:12] <GIn> where to go to select another sound theme?
[10:12] <ubotu> thyko start there: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:12] <Will> Since i have a pentium 3 500hz?
[10:12] <Will> mhz*
[10:12] <rexy_> Will if you just want a console system you can try the alternate installation iso
[10:12] <CupidWolf> hi all
[10:12] <rexy_> that has no wm, or install xubuntu which is a light version with graphics
[10:12] <CupidWolf> i've used the wget command to download Tribe 5
[10:12] <CupidWolf> and I can't find the file :D
[10:12] <m0u5e> rexy_:  3d stuff?
[10:13] <rexy_> graphic acceleration
[10:13] <Will> well I'm saying I want to run DOS programs in linux, which software should I use with my p3 500mhz?
[10:13] <Till__> i'm back in a few minutes
[10:13] <supoib> CupidWolf: what directory did you run it from?
[10:13] <supoib> wget that is
[10:13] <rexy_> Will dosemu is a program that runs dos programs
[10:13] <CupidWolf> home I thing
[10:13] <thyko> ! wireless
[10:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:13] <CupidWolf> opened a new terminal
[10:13] <doug_> is ther ea way to reinstall ubuntu live cd with out loosing all my musc movies and music vids but redue all other data?
[10:13] <CupidWolf> sudo -i
[10:14] <CupidWolf> then wget
[10:14] <Will> I'l try dosemu then
[10:14] <rexy_> doug_: dont format the drive, and manually remove everything but home
[10:14] <CupidWolf> download successful, but wheres that file :D
[10:14] <rexy_> in the directory you started the wget CupidWolf
[10:14] <doug_> ok rexy exactly how i do that?
[10:14] <supoib> CupidWolf: try looking in /root
[10:14] <CupidWolf> oooh
[10:14] <CupidWolf> yeah sure
[10:14] <CupidWolf> you're right !
[10:14] <CupidWolf> thanks :)
[10:15] <supoib> sure
[10:15] <doug_> rexy do i load the live cd first via boot mode or ?
[10:15] <rexy_> you boot the live cd, then click on your harddisk, and remove everything bar the home dir, then when you are asked to partition you select the manual option, and then configure the partitions and toggle the format option
[10:15] <doug_> ok thanks rexy
[10:16] <rexy_> be sure to do manual partitioning and setting the partitions such that the format is disabled
[10:16] <rexy_> automatic will just format the disk
[10:17] <halfbloodprince> Hey people.. i just burned the ubuntu ISO image to CD using K3B.. the image seems to have burned properly, but it's not booting from the CD. My bios is set to boot from CD though.. any ideas?
[10:17] <rexy_> does it boot straight to something else halfbloodprince?
[10:18] <rexy_> /ignore joins
[10:18] <Lappy> how can I find out the macaddress of an IP address?
[10:18] <rexy_> err that didnt work, heh
[10:18] <halfbloodprince> rexy_ right now, i have a dual boot system installed. windows xp and kubuntu, i'm repartitioning my hard drive and want to install ubuntu in place of kubuntu. when i start the computer, it opens GRUB as usual, doesn't boot from the CD
[10:18] <rexy_> on your local adress lappy  arp -a
[10:19] <Lappy> rexy_: that will tell me everything or just my pc?
[10:19] <rexy_> well halfbloodprince either the iso is burned wrong, your cd is broken, or your not booting the cd iso first
[10:19] <halfbloodprince> i thought k3b would burn it as a bootable CD?
[10:19] <rexy_> Lappy: all mac adresses on the local network that your machine currently sees
[10:20] <xor> burn it at a slow speed
[10:20] <xor> like 4sx
[10:20] <Lappy> hmm... rexy_ so any pingable address?
[10:20] <xor> 4x
[10:20] <halfbloodprince> xor: what difference will that make?
[10:20] <Rat409> halfbloodprince: did you md5sum it?
[10:21] <xor> if you burn it too fast data gets corrupted
[10:21] <halfbloodprince> Rat409: yes, the md5sum was proper
[10:21] <xor> works ok for music, etc.. but not operating systems
[10:21] <rexy_> Lappy: well a mac adress does not guarantee it has an ip but ussally yeah
[10:21] <rexy_> you can ping an mac adress, but normal ping should work just as well
[10:21] <halfbloodprince> xor: i burned at the default speed.. the average was 33x I think
[10:21] <rexy_> halfbloodprince: try manually booting the cd using F12
[10:21] <xor> halfbloodprince: if you have a disc to spare, try it at 4x.. or at least 8x
[10:22] <rexy_> in the bios
[10:22] <xor> halfbloodprince: but make sure you're directing the BIOS to boot from cd
[10:22] <halfbloodprince> rexy_: so when the computer starts i should press f12?
[10:22] <wailer> the live cd should have files on it not an iso
[10:22] <Lappy> rexy_: am on a LAN, and it only showed my own IP, it didn't even show my desktop's IP/macaddress
[10:22] <m0u5e> gar... i wonder if theres a repos for the newest intel i8xx driver set out there?
[10:22] <rexy_> halfbloodprince: just look at the boot screen
[10:22] <rexy_> you can hit the pause button to pause it
[10:23] <rexy_> it will say hit yadda yadda to do boot yadda yadda
[10:23] <dijix> Is it possible to boot from a disk from within a VM?
[10:23] <halfbloodprince> rexy_ ah alright, i'll try that
[10:23] <halfbloodprince> rexy_ thanks :)
[10:23] <rexy_> dijix: some support booting a real partition, most require images though
[10:23] <halfbloodprince> i'll try that and be back
[10:23] <rexy_> Lappy: well maybe it hassnt seen it yet
[10:23] <rexy_> what do you need the mac for?
[10:24] <xor> god i love xubuntu
[10:24] <dijix> rexy_: It would certainly help dual-booters to be able to stay in linux all of the time
[10:24] <Lappy> rexy_: on our LAN/internet, some people use other people's IPs, and when I get an 'IP conflict' I want to know the culprit's mac address so I can tell the ISP about it so they could ban the mac or find out who it is.
[10:25] <rexy_> dijix: well you can just install windows into a vm
[10:25] <New2UbuntuHelp> w00t finally got my stupid Netgear WG511v2 working on ubuntu :D
[10:25] <rexy_> i think vmware does support it, but it might be the server version or a commercial variant
[10:25] <rexy_> New2UbuntuHelp: i have the same, what did you use?
[10:25] <xor> virtualbox might
[10:26] <dijix> rexy: Hrmm.. that would work, too.
[10:26] <New2UbuntuHelp> ndiswrapper :)
[10:26] <tondar> hey all
[10:26] <rexy_> what type of vm is that xor
[10:26] <rexy_> New2UbuntuHelp: yeah same, doesnt work with networkmanager though :/
[10:26] <New2UbuntuHelp> have ya got msn?
[10:26] <tondar> I was trying to install awn on ubuntu this is the result of command line
[10:26] <New2UbuntuHelp> i can sorta give u my settings see if that works?
[10:27] <xor> rexy_: very similar to vmware.. dunno exact difference, but i got it to work much easier
[10:27] <tondar> here is the link to error: http://pastebin.com/d5b2e6d9e
[10:27] <Will> rexy_, apparently startx doesn't work
[10:27] <xor> rexy_: also there's qemu
[10:27] <goon> what dc clients do you use?
[10:27] <rexy_> Will then your x has a configuration problem
[10:28] <Will> Any way to go to default configuration?
[10:28] <tondar> anyone?
[10:28] <rexy_> i have the vmware server on my workstation , works alright, but i dont need windows much, just some solaris 10 running in there now
[10:28] <New2UbuntuHelp> hey ive got beryl on here, only problem is it doesnt load on startup so if i want to see the amazing affects i have to load beryl manually, anyone know of a way to get it to start automatically? cheers
[10:28] <tondar> please help with awn installation
[10:28] <rexy_> Will erm yeah, but i dont know the command from hard
[10:28] <rexy_> anyone the xorg --reconfigure command?
[10:28] <Jordan_U> !xconfig
[10:28] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[10:29] <tondar> this is the link to the guide I used: https://launchpad.net/awn
[10:29] <Will> heh xserver isn't install it says
[10:29] <Will> so now i have a problem
[10:29] <tondar> and here is the reult i get after installation: http://pastebin.com/d5b2e6d9e
[10:29] <GIn> how do you rename a file/folder without right clicking on it and selec rename?
[10:29] <rexy_> !xubuntu | Will
[10:29] <ubotu> Will: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[10:29] <tondar> anyone with awn installation?
[10:29] <rexy_> that should get you a light x
[10:30] <New2UbuntuHelp> so does anyone know how to change the windows that loads?
[10:31] <supoib> New2UbuntuHelp: system -> preferences -> sessions -> startup programs tab, click new and the command is beryl-manager
[10:32] <supoib> try that
[10:32] <New2UbuntuHelp> thanks ill try it
[10:32] <goon> does enybody know where to get linuxDC++?
[10:33] <rexy_> goon apt-cache search directconnec
[10:33] <knutties> hi, how do I find out the type of RAM on my box?
[10:33] <nathan> I am so sick of this I've been trying to get my desktop to look good for three days now
[10:33] <knutties> i used lshw
[10:33] <Deniz_> imp.org
[10:33] <rexy_> knutties: free -m
[10:34] <rexy_> oh wait type, you can see that in the bios
[10:34] <knutties> rexy_, that gives me the free memory
[10:34] <nathan> When I try to turn on compiz --replace, I lose my title bar and I can't do anything but ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:34] <nathan> it's windows 98 all over again =[[
[10:34] <rexy_> when booting it should say if it uses sdram or ddr
[10:34] <tondar> some one help me with this: https://launchpad.net/awn
[10:34] <knutties> ok, let me try looking at it now
[10:34] <ziroday> nathan: complaining isnt going to solve your porblem
[10:34] <knutties> thanks rexy_
[10:34] <rexy_> nathan what video card do you have
[10:34] <TooR4u> How to change the icon of a particular folder ....?
[10:34] <TooR4u> I am using fiesty
[10:35] <rexy_> right click -> properties?
[10:35] <ziroday> rexy_: how long have you been on for?
[10:35] <nathan> rexy_: I have no idea, and apparently there's no way to find out using ubuntu
[10:35] <ziroday> nathan: yes there is
[10:35] <Jordan_U> nathan, You should use the built in desktop effects, at the very least it will fall back to metacity after a few seconds if it fails
[10:35] <ziroday> nathan: give me a min
[10:35] <ziroday> lspic
[10:36] <nathan> the build in desktop effects don't work now
[10:36] <Jordan_U> nathan, System -> Preferences -> Hardware Information
[10:36] <TooR4u> How to change the icon of a particular folder ....?
[10:36] <ziroday> nathan: in a terminal - lspci | grep VGA
[10:36] <TooR4u> like windows?
[10:36] <ziroday> nathan: see what it returns
[10:37] <rexy_> ziroday: a whois will tell you that
[10:37] <Jordan_U> TooR4u, That is not possible with *NIX file systems
[10:37] <BlueXero> I have a problem with my Add/Remove programs
[10:37] <TooR4u> Jordan_U, :(
[10:37] <dijix> nathan: I'm having the same problem
[10:38] <ziroday> rexy_: whois?
[10:38] <BlueXero> how do I check '/etc/apt/sources.list
[10:38] <ziroday> rexy_: oh rite sorry im being thick
[10:38] <dijix> 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0295 (rev a1)
[10:38] <scipio> BlueXero, what do you mean check? view it?
[10:38] <BlueXero> well... It says
[10:38] <Jordan_U> BlueBird, System > Administration -> Software Sources
[10:38] <BlueXero> This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'.
[10:39] <scipio> !easysource | BlueXero
[10:39] <ubotu> BlueXero: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:39] <Jordan_U> dijix, Did you enable the nvidia drivers in System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager?
[10:40] <dijix> Jordan_U: Yes
[10:40] <scipio> BlueXero, so go that website and copy paste the list and use that instead of the one you have now. then do a sudo apt-get update
[10:40] <Dogg> http://www.streetracers.de.tp/?wid=9128
[10:40] <GIn> it would be great if gnome display a button on the window to play all audio files if it contains a lot of audio files.
[10:40] <Jordan_U>  BlueXero Your sources.list is most likely fine unless you have added anything to it manually, try just running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:41] <nathan> I don't see my video card in there
[10:41] <nathan> I think it's a ati
[10:41] <Jordan_U> nathan, ATI makes crappy Linux drivers
[10:41] <Jordan_U> nathan, They don't support compiz / beryl
[10:42] <ziroday> nathan: when you ran the command lspci | grep VGA did it return anything
[10:42] <BlueXero> ok, but the sources.list is a read-only file, so how do I edit it?
[10:42] <ziroday> Jordan_U: yes they do
[10:42] <Evan____> is there a GUI for editing grub?
[10:42] <Jordan_U> ziroday, Only through XGL, not directly
[10:42] <[diablo] > can anyone recommend the best compizfusion repo for feisty please?
[10:42] <scipio> BlueXero, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <nathan> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:42] <Jordan_U> !gksudo > scipio
[10:42] <ziroday> nathan: that means you have a intergrated intel card
[10:43] <[diablo] > I tried http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu and found them buggy as hell
[10:43] <nathan> i see
[10:43] <ziroday> nathan: which is very unlikely to be able to run compiz fusion
[10:43] <scipio> Jordan_U, correct I should use that instead
[10:43] <Amaranth> [diablo] : #compiz-fusion
[10:43] <nathan> well it was working earlier today so
[10:43] <xor> i've run compiz fusion on intel integrated fine
[10:43] <[diablo] > Amaranth, ah, sorry, am I right in saying their your packages?
[10:43] <Jordan_U> nathan, That should work with Compiz / Beryl just fine, do you get an error when you try to turn on Desktop Effects?
[10:43] <nathan> yeah it just says unable to start
[10:44] <Amaranth> [diablo] : yeah
[10:44] <Amaranth> [diablo] : go there and i can try to help you
[10:44] <[diablo] > im there dude
[10:44] <[diablo] > thank you
[10:44] <scipio> BlueXero, next time do 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list &' :)
[10:45] <nathan> keep in mind, that this is a fresh install as of this morning, then I ran this script that's supposed to install it automatically, now none of it works at all
[10:45] <nathan> not even the built in one now
[10:45] <BlueXero> ahhh
[10:45] <BlueXero> it didn't work
[10:46] <atari2600a> can someone help me w/ something?
[10:46] <GIn> wow, I like Audacious, it has unicode support! :-)
[10:46] <Jordan_U> nathan, Can you pastebin the output of "compiz --replace & sleep 2 && metacity --replace" ? ( that will start compiz then wait two seconds and go back to metacity so it shouldn't freeze up )
[10:46] <atari2600a> how do you make shortcuts or the equivelant?
[10:46] <BlueXero> man, I cant fix this problem
[10:46] <BlueXero> It keeps coming up with that error
[10:46] <Jordan_U> nathan, Ahh, keep far far away from random scripts
[10:47] <scipio> BlueXero, did you do what Jordan_U suggested?
[10:47] <Jordan_U> nathan, Compiz comes pre-installed with Feisty, so I have no idea what that script did... but it probably wasn't good
[10:47] <nathan> it still froze
[10:47] <CodemasterMM> woah, an op.
[10:48] <Jordan_U> nathan, And it didn't come back after a few seconds ?
[10:48] <nathan> I'll do it to a file on my desktop
[10:48] <Paddy_EIRE> nathan what script.. was it provided by the ubuntuwiki
[10:48] <nathan> nope
[10:48] <nathan> lemme see
[10:49] <BlueXero> ohhh
[10:49] <nathan> this script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=508769
[10:49] <BlueXero> Thanks sooooo much Jordan_U
[10:49] <Jordan_U> BlueBird, np :)
[10:49] <nathan> what was that command again
[10:50] <rexy_> wow lots of banning
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> rexy_: UNbanning :)
[10:50] <rexy_> oh right
[10:50] <Jordan_U> nathan, Ahh, that installs Compiz Fusion, which isn't even Beta yet, it is very unstable
[10:50] <ziroday> ah that makes sense
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> hey tonyyarusso got a funny one for ya http://www.wimp.com/windows/
[10:50] <Jordan_U> nathan, You probably want regular Compiz or Beryl which are stable
[10:50] <nathan> I want a cube dezktop and someone told me that's what I need for that and transparency and stuff
[10:50] <goon> thank you rexy_ :)
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> nathan you seen how many problems on that thread
[10:50] <Jordan_U> nathan, They were wrong
[10:51] <nathan> you guys are who referred me to them =[
[10:51] <nathan> ok well I'm going back to beryl where i started in the first place...
[10:51] <Paddy_EIRE> nathan as you have a essentially a fresh install just go on and reinstall and try and avoid early beta software
[10:51] <elkbuntu> Paddy_EIRE, ah, like the 'really good edition' spoof?
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> elkbuntu: yeah the messages are quite funny
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> elkbuntu: been keeping busy ?
[10:52] <elkbuntu> Paddy_EIRE,  always. meanwhile this discussion should be in -offtopic
[10:53] <ompaul> okay I am about to remove a few bans
[10:53] <ompaul> you will get a bit of scrolling
[10:53] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone.
[10:54] <barbie> its afternoon here!
[10:54] <jf> morn Spee
[10:54] <Jordan_U> Spee_Der, Goodnight :)
[10:54] <ompaul> cheers
[10:54] <scipio> 2 am here, good morning
[10:54] <Spee_Der> Cheers ompaul
[10:55] <GIn> what command to use to count the number of mp3 files in a directory when using the terminal?
[10:55] <barbie> GIn: ls -lh | wc -l
[10:55] <jf> is just having 2nd to last beer getting ready for bed.
[10:56] <Spee_Der> Way to go jf.
[10:56] <Jordan_U> GIn, ls -lh | grep .mp3 | wc -l
[10:56] <[lovebase5] >  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/ind
[10:56] <jf> you on east coast there Spee
[10:56] -[lovebase5] :#ubuntu-  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/ind
[10:56] <[lovebase5] >  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/ind
[10:56] -[lovebase5] :#ubuntu-  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/ind
[10:56] <[lovebase5] >  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/ind
[10:56] -[lovebase5] :#ubuntu-  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/ind
[10:56] <devesh> how to umount swap
[10:56] <Spee_Der> I'm working on audio problem in Feisty 7.04. Can't find the Sound Blaster LIve  card for some reason.
[10:56] <barbie> swapon -a
[10:57] <jf> you ran alsa conf?
[10:57] <Spee_Der> hmmm
[10:57] <Spee_Der> I'll try that now jf.
[10:57] <Spee_Der> I have the gui for alsa also.
[10:57] <devesh> i have a problem on detecting sound card on debian
[10:57] <devesh> debian 4
[10:57] <devesh> wht to do
[10:57] <Spee_Der> It is seeing both on board sound and the card, but won't send audio to the card.
[10:57] <spiderfire> hi
[10:58] <Spee_Der> hi spider
[10:58] <spiderfire> can the 64bit ubuntu run the 32 bit programs?
[10:58] <GIn> Jordan_U, ls *.mp3 | wc -l. will this work?
[10:58] <Jordan_U> Spee_Der, What is the output of "asoundconf list"
[10:58] <Spee_Der> lemme look
[10:59] <unknown__> can anyone help with disappearing wireless card issue? It is a broadcom it was working, and now it's not and poof!
[10:59] <Spee_Der> Jordan_U, CS46xx and Live
[11:00] <Jordan_U> Spee_Der, Is "Live" the one you want to use?
[11:00] <spiderfire> is this true. if you have a 64bit ubuntu you dont need a 32 bit ubuntu cause you can run 32bit programs?
[11:00] <jf> spee, you run alsamixer?
[11:00] <Spee_Der> jf, yes.
[11:00] <jf> not all spider
[11:00] <astro76> unknown__, do you know which card specifically? (try: lspci | grep -i bcm )
[11:00] <Spee_Der> Jordan_U, yes, prefer Live as it feeds the external amplifier to drive the 300 W speakers.
[11:00] <Jordan_U> Spee_Der, Then try running "asoundconf set-default-card Live"
[11:00] <spiderfire> jf: what about a 32bit chroot in a 64bit ubuntu?
[11:01] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'system logger' in the sentence "openlog() opens a connection to the system logger for a program."
[11:01] <Spee_Der> Jordan_U, ok.
[11:02] <kevincj> hello everyone
[11:02] <Spee_Der> Sound is still from the internal speaker.
[11:02] <Jordan_U> spiderfire, Yes, 64 bit Ubuntu can run just about anything ( ouside of drivers ) that 32 bit Ubuntu can, but it can be hard getting things to work ( nspluginwrapper / 32 bit chroot )
[11:02] <Spee_Der> It is not going to the sound card, yet.
[11:02] <unknown__> astro76: 02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[11:03] <Spee_Der> hi kevin
[11:03] <jf> as far as I know cannot run 32 bit adobe flash, some apps.  Can run under wine for most of those however.  Could be wrond on both instances.  normal slack user.  trying ubuntu
[11:03] <Jordan_U> unknown__, have you tried bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[11:03] <kevincj> hi spee_Der
[11:03] <Jordan_U> !flash64 | jf spiderfire
[11:03] <ubotu> jf spiderfire: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:03] <jf> why not ndiswrapper
[11:03] <astro76> unknown__, yes have you used bcm43xx-fwcutter or bcm43xx-firmware ?
[11:03] <Jordan_U> jf, It isn't native
[11:03] <astro76> bcm4306 works perfectly without ndiswrapper
[11:03] <spiderfire> Jordan_U: can i use an already existing 32bit install?
[11:03] <jf> easier for new to run than fwcutter
[11:04] <jf> thanks for link ubotu
[11:04] <unknown__> Jordan_U: bcm43xx-fwcutter gets errors
[11:04] <Jordan_U> jf, No, to use fwcutter you just install bcm43xx-fwcutter, there is nothing to "do"
[11:04] <Spee_Der> Do I need to re-start something now with the asoundconf default set for live perhaps ?
[11:05] <jf> i always had problem in slack with fwcutter.  but it is native correct?
[11:05] <Spee_Der> I need more coffee, b r b.
[11:05] <Jordan_U> unknown__, Ahh, probably md5 mismatch again, I have the firmware that it installs on my site, you can just copy it to /lib/firmware ...
[11:06] <unknown__> Jordan_U: md5? what's that?
[11:06] <astro76> unknown__, or the package here also installs the firmware directly: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[11:06] <Jordan_U> astro76, That package is old
[11:07] <astro76> how so?
[11:07] <Jordan_U> unknown__, It is a way of checking file integrity, basically the place where the package downloads the firmware changed and the package hasn't been updated
[11:07] <jf> wb
[11:08] <Jordan_U> unknown__, Here is the .zip file, extract it to your desktop http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/firmware.zip
[11:08] <haboo> hey guys
[11:09] <jf> Jordan - does the fwcutter extract cab files from win. drivers to load at boot?
[11:10] <thyko> how do i connect to WPA wireless network? The network thingi is only giving me the option to use WEP
[11:10] <Jordan_U> jf, It extracts .fw ( firmware ) files
[11:10] <Jordan_U> unknown__, Tell me once you have the firmware in a folder named "firmware" on your desktop
[11:10] <rob> thyko, while I don't recommend it just yet, Gutsy has wpa support in network manager out of the box
[11:10] <unknown__> Jordan_U: kk got it
[11:11] <laskar> indonesia
[11:11] <unknown__> Jordan_U: I have the "firmware"
[11:11] <Spee_Der> Jordan_U, do I need to re-start something for the Live card to work now ? I did the asoundconf set-default-card Live.
[11:12] <Prowler_1> whare can i find the process manager?
[11:12] <jf> thyko- I think this is the one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[11:12] <Jordan_U> unknown__, Ok, now run " sudo mv ~/Dektop/firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware"
[11:12] <Prowler_1> !bootmanager
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <Jordan_U> unknown__, Change "Dektop" to "Desktop" :)
[11:13] <Prowler_1> !processmanager
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <Prowler_1> !process manager
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <m0u5e> whats the command to give me the cpu usage of a specific process?
[11:14] <Spee_Der> Prowler_1, system > admin > system monitor
[11:14] <scipio> m0u5e, top?
[11:14] <m0u5e> scipio: i need the cpu usage of a specific process
[11:15] <m0u5e> scipio: i tried ps... but i wasnt able to specify a specific process -_-;
[11:15] <Prowler_1> Spee_Der: Thanks
[11:15] <unknown__> Jordan_U: done no return error
[11:15] <Prowler_1> you know what is the key shortcut for it?
[11:15] <Spee_Der> no. I do it from menu
[11:15] <Jordan_U> unknown__, Now, for security, run "sudo chown root:root /lib/firmware/*.fw"
[11:16] <jf> favorite Java or C/C++ ide's?
[11:16] <Jordan_U> m0u5e, Use grep
[11:16] <unknown__> Jordan_U:  Also done. No return error
[11:16] <Spee_Der> m0u5e, you could also use system > admin > system monitor for more specific information on each process and value.
[11:17] <unknown__> Jordan_U:  Man I gotta say none of this was in any forums
[11:17] <Jordan_U> unknown__, Ok, now reboot and your wireless should work ( the reboot isn't needed but I forget how to restart network-manager :)
[11:17] <Spee_Der> Jordan_U, that can also be done through system monitor menu/functions
[11:17] <WildZeck> hi how to lauch clamd daemon under feisty  please ?
[11:18] <Jordan_U> unknown__, That is because usually you just install bcm43xx-fwcutter and it does all this for you
[11:18] <unknown__> Jordan_U:  Thanks again I'll try rebooting my computer now
[11:20] <z0rz> Hmm.. I just installed Azureus.. and ran the configuraiton wizard.. and I don't remember if I finished it or not.. but now if I open Azureus the config wizard pops up for like 1 sec and then the whole program crashes... Any solutions?
[11:21] <rob> z0rz, might not what you want to hear, but try Deluge, its pretty good
[11:21] <rob> no java too
[11:21] <z0rz> rob: Absolutley what I wanted to hear..
[11:21] <jf> i say uninstall and re-install.   Works fine in feisty.  But I agree with Rob on the Java bit
[11:21] <Will> How do i open a .tgz
[11:22] <jf> installpkg *.tgz (in slack anyways)
[11:22] <astro76> !tar | jf
[11:22] <ubotu> jf: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:22] <astro76> sorry
[11:22] <astro76> Will, see above
[11:22] <jf> what?
[11:23] <m0u5e> Jordan_U: how would i use grep?
[11:23] <z0rz> rob: Does deluge support encryption?
[11:23] <Will> ok, also why do I always have to compile programs that are made for linux, why cant they just make them pre-compiled
[11:23] <astro76> jf, I used your nick accidentally ;)
[11:23] <astro76> Will, what programs? they probably are
[11:23] <Will> because now i have to compile dosemu
[11:23] <jf> ah
[11:23] <Jordan_U> m0u5e, ps with whatever arguments >
[11:23] <Will> DOSEMU is in the packages but its not the latest version
[11:23] <rob> z0rz, yes
[11:23] <ziroday> z0rz: yes
[11:24] <astro76> !info dosemu | Will
[11:24] <ubotu> will: dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-8 (feisty), package size 947 kB, installed size 2204 kB
[11:24] <Spee_Der> ps ax
[11:24] <z0rz> Nice
[11:24] <z0rz> How do I get it?
[11:24] <rob> z0rz, if you are on Feisty, grab the .deb from the deluge web site (more up to date)
[11:24] <z0rz> then just double click the deb?
[11:24] <Jordan_U> m0u5e, < ps with whatever arguments > | grep <process name>
[11:24] <astro76> Will, well if you absolutely need the latest version then I guess
[11:24] <Will> DOSEMU is at 1.4.0
[11:24] <Spee_Der> ps ax will show all tasks running
[11:24] <alsa> hey i need help
[11:24] <alsa> the Network manager isnt showing my systray
[11:25] <Will> Well the newest version in the readme or notes says it fixes a lot of sound and midi problems
[11:25] <alsa> it crashed the the gdesklet
[11:25] <alsa> and now no matter what i install or reinstall
[11:25] <alsa> the network manager wont show
[11:25] <alsa> just the notifications
[11:25] <doug_> i got a portalble disk drie usb ported i am trying to delete things in it but they come back"/media/disk...}_Large.jpg" cannot be deleted because it is on a read-only disk.
[11:25] <Jordan_U> alsa, What happens when you run "nm-applet" ?
[11:25] <sonium> how can I change the language of xchat spell check?
[11:25] <alsa> nothing =\
[11:25] <doug_> i tried to change the promission but it wouldnt let me
[11:25] <Jordan_U> doug_, NTFS?
[11:25] <doug_> no
[11:26] <Will> https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/115082
[11:26] <doug_> jordan its a 1gb usb flash drive
[11:26] <alsa> .....
[11:26] <rob1> z0rz, sorry wireless networked dropped out, the url is: http://deluge-torrent.org/
[11:27] <alsa> Jordan_U : what do u think
[11:27] <alsa> is it repairable
[11:27] <Jordan_U> alsa, As a test, try creating a new user and logging in as that user and see if it shows up then
[11:27] <alsa> ive been googling it for hours
[11:27] <alsa> hrm
[11:27] <alsa> brb
[11:28] <Jordan_U> alsa, Almost anything is repairable, it's just a matter of how hard :)
[11:28] <alsa> ... yeah
[11:28] <doug_> anyone?
[11:29] <arman> i want to install nvidia 8600gt drivers i have 2 options, first i can install the driver from nvidia web page. second there are nvidia binaries in package manager, which one should i use? (i want to install compiz-fushion)
[11:29] <garryFre> I just got here, what's happening doug_ ?
[11:29] <z0rz> rob1: Love it.. it's fast too!
[11:30] <Fer_re> LINUX FOREVER!!!
[11:30] <Fer_re> WINDOWS MUST DIE!!!
[11:30] <Fer_re> LET'S KILL GATES!!!
[11:30] <Fer_re> USE ONLY OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE!!!
[11:30] <Fer_re> HAPPY 16'th ANNIVERSARY, LINUX!
[11:30] <doug_> garryfre i got a flash usb 1 gb drive it wont let me delete anything in it
[11:30] <Jordan_U> Fer_re, Calm down and please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:30] <doug_> garryfre it all comes back as read only i change the disks permision it still wont do it it still goes back to the read only
[11:31] <garryFre> use the binaries, get the kernel image matching yours, there is a glx there, and get nvidia-settings and nvidia-config and run the nvidia-config from command line.
[11:31] <sagarp> my install is hanging indefinitely at "setting up the clock"
[11:31] <Fer_re> Jordan_U: it's not offtopic!!! All Russian linux-users is drinking a lot of vodka today!
[11:31] <doug_> garryFre u talking bout my binaries?
[11:31] <z0rz> How can I play mid files?
[11:31] <garryFre> That is strange, that you can't write it
[11:31] <Will> I really have no idea how to compile dosemu 1.4.0
[11:31] <Gary> Fer_re, this is a support channel, not a chat channel
[11:31] <Will> I wish they just released a compiled one
[11:31] <Jordan_U> Fer_re, This is a support channel, anything not pertaining to support is offtopic
[11:32] <garryFre> was talking about how to install nvidia drivers
[11:32] <sagarp> if i just kill the install and reboot at "setting up the clock" will it be ok? what else does it do after that? anyone know?
[11:32] <Fer_re> ggg... OKay, I think I drunk too many today =(
[11:32] <garryFre> I don't think so, it has to install the boot loader.
[11:33] <alsa> Jordan_U
[11:33] <alsa> am back
[11:33] <Jordan_U> alsa, Did you try creating a new user?
[11:34] <alsa> its not creating a user
[11:34] <alsa> ill try by terminal
[11:34] <alsa> damn
[11:34] <alsa> ur good :D
[11:34] <ndee> hey there, I'm using beryl & feisty fawn & the ATI driver and xorg hovers at around 25-50% CPU usage, also when I don't do a thing. Anyone knows maybe what the problem could be?
[11:34] <alsa> it showed
[11:35] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> Jordan U: It worked! Thanks again for the help...
[11:35] <alsa> Jordan_U :-)
[11:37] <Jordan_U> unKNOWN_trOJAN, np :)
[11:37] <aldcor> help... i installed Archlinux... fluxbox and KDE... when i write startkde or fbrun, than - Coudn't load Xserver
[11:37] <Jordan_U> aldcor, This is #ubuntu
[11:38] <aldcor> it doesn't matter
[11:38] <aldcor> somebody maybe now..
[11:38] <aldcor> know
[11:38] <doug_> can someone run me through the steps to reinstall evrything with out loosing the stuff in the home folder rexy told me while ago but i couldnt get it going
[11:39] <doug_> i need someone that can run me through it on aim or msn
[11:39] <Jordan_U> aldcor, have you done "pacman -S xorg" ?
[11:40] <aldcor> joakim- yes
[11:40] <aldcor> Jordan_U yes
[11:40] <aldcor> maybe i should configure xorg?
[11:41] <Jordan_U> aldcor, Yes, you need to run "xorgconfig"
[11:41] <Jordan_U> aldcor, Or pacman -S hwd and use that, it's easier
[11:42] <garryFre> say doug_ During install most distros have an option to leave the partitions there so as not to over-write information. That might help you. The other way might be moving it to a memstick
[11:43] <aleph0> hello everyone
[11:43] <aleph0> I'm having great trouble installing ubuntu on an hp compaq 6751s.
[11:43] <doug_> garryFre i cant do anything with the mim stick its messed up
[11:43] <Jordan_U> doug_, Do you have your /home an a separate partition?
[11:43] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[11:44] <aleph0> in particular, I am now using the alternate install cd for text mode install
[11:44] <doug_> what command do i type to get to this folder ~/compiz
[11:44] <doug_> no jordan_U
[11:44] <Jordan_U> doug_, cd ~/compiz
[11:44] <sonofsam> hello internet land!
[11:44] <aleph0> my question: is there any way I can tell the installer NOT to format the partitions? (I have already formatted by hand - and the installer always hangs on formatting)
[11:44] <doug_> hmm sayes no suck folder jordan_U
[11:44] <EvaLuaTe> when trying to install vhcs with 'sudo sh vhcs.sh' i get 'vhcs.sh: 127: Syntax error: Bad substitution', does anyone have an idea on what could be wrong ?
[11:45] <Jordan_U> doug_, Then you don't have a ~/compiz, maybe you want ~/.compiz ?
[11:45] <mebaran151> hey
[11:45] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, sh != bash
[11:45] <doug_> thnks
[11:45] <mebaran151> I've installed flashplugin with nspluginwrapper on my x86_64 system
[11:46] <mebaran151> it works alright
[11:46] <mebaran151> except the fonts all show as square boxes
[11:46] <mebaran151> I've installed the ms font set and checked my font paths
[11:46] <mebaran151> but I'm at a loss as to what else to do
[11:46] <Jordan_U> mebaran151, Did you follow the wiki ?
[11:46] <mebaran151> yeah'
[11:46] <EvaLuaTe> Jordan_U, i'm pretty new to linux, this is what the site said i should do, first wget the sh script and then run that command, i have no idea what i have done wrong :/
[11:47] <kauer> mebaran151 whats the problem again?
[11:47] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, What are you trying to do?
[11:47] <mebaran151> flash plays youtube and everything
[11:47] <mebaran151> but whnever it loads something like a fileuploading box
[11:47] <mebaran151> or something like that
[11:47] <EvaLuaTe> Jordan_U, i'm trying to install vhcs
[11:47] <mebaran151> it only shows square fonts
[11:49] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, I think there is a .deb for that ...
[11:49] <Javid> can gparted resize a partition?
[11:50] <EvaLuaTe> Jordan_U, could you please help me find it or tell me how to search for it and install ?
[11:50] <devesh> yes gparted can do
[11:50] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, I am looking now
[11:51] <EvaLuaTe> thank you :)
[11:51] <m0u5e> Jordan_U: (this is kinda belated...) thx :D
[11:52] <Jordan_U> m0u5e, np :)
[11:52] <Dromar> Javid, of course
[11:53] <Javid> thanks
[11:53] <Javid> I wish man could spit out a page on stuff without installing it first
[11:53] <Dromar> just don't forget to do it from a live cd if you want resize / or /home
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> Javid: you can search online for manpages
[11:53] <Hexagon_> who java cliens??????????????????
[11:53] <Hexagon_> chat
[11:53] <Hexagon_> java
[11:54] <Hexagon_> cliens
[11:54] <Javid> I want to resize my current system drive so I can fuck around with other OSes in the extra space
[11:54] <mattgyver83> Hey room, how can i figure out what # usb port I am using, would it be the Bus number reflected when running lspci?
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> !language
[11:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:54] <Javid> do I have to do that from a livecd?
[11:54] <Javid> !care
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about care - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <Dromar> Javid, yes
[11:54] <kynan> anyone tried out linux mint?
[11:54] <mattgyver83> im sorry, i meant lsusb, not lspci
[11:54] <Javid> ok. fanks
[11:55] <Javid> Here's hoping I'm not back here in an hour going "how the hell do I fix this"
[11:55] <Javid> ^^
[11:55] <Dromar> good luck ^^
[11:55] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, I am not finding anything, try replacing "sh" in that command with "bash"
[11:56] <EvaLuaTe> like sudo bash vhcs.sh ?
[11:56] <jf> anyone know about resizing ext3 filesystem.  Because qtparted and parted are not doing the job
[11:56] <jf> edit.. partition
[11:56] <ndo> Hello!:) Is anyone expirienced in hardware around here? Could damaged CPU affect a motherboard (damage also maybe)? plz, ty!
[11:56] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, Yes
[11:57] <Jordan_U> ndo, You might try ##hardware
[11:57] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> ndo: erp umm... huh?
[11:57] <rezz> ndo: anything is possible
[11:57] <ndo> Jordan_U: kty :P
[11:58] <Ghismo> guys where i can find the internet temporary files
[11:58] <Ghismo> i mean the directory
[11:59] <jf> wouldn't that depend on the browser?
[11:59] <rezz> i have problem with ubuntu, i had it for few times in a row, i reinstalled ubuntu, installed all updates, xmms, aMSN and nvidia drivers from restricted drivers management, then i boot.
[11:59] <EvaLuaTe> wow, it works, thanks Jordan_U :)
[11:59] <rezz> but ubuntu wont load
[11:59] <Ghismo> firefoz
[11:59] <Ghismo> firefoz
[11:59] <rezz> is this some wide known problem or is it just me?
[11:59] <kynan> does ubuntu freeze up or just not load at all?
[11:59] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, np
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> rezz: its you :)
[12:00] <rezz> gnome tries to load the login screen, but the loading cursor just stays
[12:00] <rezz> damn. any ideas?
[12:00] <kynan> hmm never experinced that problem...
[12:00] <Jordan_U> rezz, Can you get to a terminal with ctrl+alt+f1 ( ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X )
[12:00] <Jordan_U> ?
[12:00] <ndo> just.. i have got a PC from a friend. I doesnt start. So im sure its cpu (from msi diagnostic kit at the back). But while i was turning him on and of, by replacing parts from my PC (ram/vga/psu). He asked for it. I was sure enough its cpu. So, it doesnt start at all right now. Earlier it was all working and just no image on the screen. Thats kinda it, hehe.
[12:02] <kynan> doesnt start? hmm could be loose cpu fan wire thats happened to me...
[12:02] <rezz> Jordan_U: im not sure, im on live cd.. but while it loaded i did press ctrl + alt + f7 key, and then it just crashed
[12:02] <jf> sorry Ghismo, ask again.  wifey says time for bed
[12:03] <OPTIMusprime1212> can someone that knows how to reinstall from live cd with out loosing the home part help me through gaim?
[12:03] <wailer> rezz: happened after new nvidia driver?
[12:04] <rezz> wailer: gnome didnt start up
[12:04] <wailer> rezz: try reconery from grub menu
[12:04] <Ghismo> i wish to delete all the internet temporary files
[12:04] <Ghismo> but i can't find them
[12:04] <MeRodent> arggh!! My panels have dissapeared.
[12:04] <rezz> wailer: what do i don in recovery?
[12:04] <rezz> ..
[12:04] <rezz> typos
[12:04] <MeRodent> Anyone know how to get them back?
[12:05] <wailer> rezz: did it say anything about x not starting
[12:06] <ndo> Jordan_U: nobody is responding at #hardware :(
[12:06] <Optimus_Prime> hello robot, I am ubuntu
[12:06] <rezz> wailer: no, i doubt. but im not sure
[12:06] <wailer> rezz; at the prompt type type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:06] <nathan> howcome when I start beryl I have no title bars? this is totally fresh install of ubuntu and beryl
[12:06] <D3B14N> MeRodent;   in terminal; killall gnome-panel
[12:07] <sheri97> hallo
[12:07] <wailer> rezz: lets you check/change graphic settings
[12:07] <rezz> oh
[12:07] <kynan> is there a shortcut for terminal like alt f2 for run?
[12:07] <sheri97> help me with compiz please?
[12:07] <rezz> wailer: what do i do there?
[12:08] <nathan> howcome when I start beryl I have no title bars? this is totally fresh install of ubuntu and beryl
[12:08] <Jordan_U> kynan, You can create one
[12:08] <wailer> rezz: go through the stages slowly
[12:08] <kynan> ah ok then just checking there wasnt already one cheers
[12:08] <MeRodent> d3b14n: thanks mate
[12:08] <sheri97> i install compiz but nothing is doing with my desktop,windows,any effects
[12:08] <D3B14N> nathan did you install the graphic drivers ?
[12:08] <mrbjoer1> How do I chmod a folder, and all subfolder and files?
[12:08] <D3B14N> MeRodent;   youe welcome
[12:09] <wailer> rezz: choose vesa as a way to get graphics back
[12:09] <nathan> don't think so...
[12:09] <rezz> vesa?
[12:09] <sheri97> my graphic adapter is SiS and i dont find driver
[12:09] <D3B14N> nathan you need to install the drivers, and eedit your xorg.conf for beryl/compiz
[12:09] <ubuntu_> ok im in live cd how do i fix it where i can reinstall evrything butthe home folder
[12:09] <wailer> rezz: then you can do more to get it working right
[12:09] <Jordan_U> nathan, What happens when you try to use the built in desktop effects?
[12:09] <rezz> okay thanks bye
[12:09] <rezz> il be back
[12:10] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_, You will need to put your /home on a separate partition
[12:10] <nathan> they work
[12:10] <nathan> oh now it works
[12:10] <ailean> guys, is there a way to quickly switch between keyboard layouts in GNOME?  I regularly type in both english and spanish and it's a bit of a pain to have to go into preferences each time.
[12:10] <ubuntu_> how jordan_U
[12:12] <msikma> Hi everone, I was wondering if anyone knew how to keep GDM from being started up. I want to boot up my computer and log in via text mode.
[12:12] <octoberdan> ailean: Try #gnome
[12:12] <Toma-> ailean: add a "Keyboard Indicator" to your panel
[12:12] <ubuntu_> jordan_U do i take the home partition and drag it into the live cd desk?
[12:12] <Jordan_U> !boot | msikma
[12:12] <ubotu> msikma: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:12] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> Can anyone help with mplayer not playing a dvd that I have? I've install win32 & some file from medibuntu and it still won't work, any suggestions?
[12:13] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_, No...
[12:13] <wailer> aileen: you can use a panel shortcut
[12:14] <octoberdan> ailean: Write a script and map it to an unused keyboard button/combination?
[12:14] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome You will need to start from your harddrive install IIRC
[12:14] <msikma> Jordan_U: I don't think this is it. I've already modified grub to ensure that I won't see the graphical boot, but I'm certain that GDM is started via some other script than the boot options.
[12:14] <gordonjcp> quick question about installing
[12:15] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> go
[12:15] <gordonjcp> why does it ask me to set a keyboard layout during installation, and then ignore it?
[12:15] <gordonjcp> logic dictates that if you set your keyboard layout while you're installing, you're most likely to want to continue using that layout
[12:15] <ailean> guys, is there a way to quickly switch between keyboard layouts in GNOME?  I regularly type in both english and spanish and it's a bit of a pain to have to go into preferences each time.
[12:16] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> gordonjcp: sounds like it could be many things unfortunatley
[12:16] <Jordan_U> msikma, Read the whole message, you can use bum to prevent gdm from starting automatically
[12:16] <gordonjcp> unKNOWN_trOJAN: no, it's one thing; the installer just plain doesn't set up your keyboard
[12:16] <gordonjcp> unKNOWN_trOJAN: this is probably something more for the dev lists though ;-)
[12:17] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> gordonjcp: whats your hardware?
[12:17] <wailer> aileen: right click on a panel - click ad to panel - application launcher - preferences
[12:17] <wailer> *add
[12:18] <EvaLuaTe> how can i enable root login on ubuntu 7.04 ?
[12:18] <gordonjcp> unKNOWN_trOJAN: generic desktop pc, but this is true of any hardware
[12:18] <gordonjcp> !root | EvaLuaTe
[12:18] <ubotu> EvaLuaTe: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:18] <Norrel> !root | EvaLuaTe
[12:18] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, Why do you want to log in as root? ( you shouldn't )
[12:19] <EvaLuaTe> i have a program the requires root to install (i think that's the problem ... :/ )
[12:19] <msikma> Jordan_U: I can't seem to find what you mean, and I can't find "bum".
[12:19] <Norrel> EvaLuaTe: sudo
[12:19] <EvaLuaTe> Norrel, it doesn't seem to work with sudo
[12:19] <keithhhhh> Is there any disadvantage of installing ubuntu 5.10 then upgrading to 7.04?  I have a fresh new HD
[12:19] <ubuntu_> jordan_U it doesnt tell me how to move the home partition
[12:19] <wailer> sudo apt-get
[12:20] <EvaLuaTe> i get permission denied when the program tries to vreate a file :/
[12:20] <EvaLuaTe> create even
[12:20] <Optimus_Prime> try www.google.com
[12:20] <EvaLuaTe> me ?
[12:20] <gordonjcp> EvaLuaTe: did you read the link that the bot gave you?
[12:20] <Jordan_U> msikma, sudo apt-get install bum
[12:21] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> gordonjcp: I'll never understand... today Ubuntu install won't grab my broadcom. Yesterday xfce4 saw it fine.
[12:21] <EvaLuaTe> gordonjcp, yes i did
[12:21] <gordonjcp> unKNOWN_trOJAN: I just did a clean reinstall, and although lspci sees my soundcard, nothing else wants to talk to it
[12:22] <whta> is there ANY WAY at ALL to get opengl applications to work in an XGL session with an ATI card? :(
[12:22] <gordonjcp> EvaLuaTe: so you know what to do then
[12:22] <EvaLuaTe> well, it doesn't work with sudo :/
[12:22] <mwe> whta, people in #ubuntu-effects may know more about it
[12:23] <Jordan_U> whta, You can run them from the underlying x server instead of XGL, /join #ubuntu-effects
[12:23] <gordonjcp> EvaLuaTe: you haven't read the page, have you?
[12:23] <EvaLuaTe> i have
[12:23] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> gordonjcp: Another curiosity... I've done exactly the same things to install mplayer in xfce and now in ubuntu, and guess which is not working...
[12:23] <gordonjcp> no, you can't have
[12:23] <kritzstapf> does the server install contain anything the desktop install doesnt?
[12:23] <whta> thanks guys, i'll ask over there
[12:23] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, In what way does it not work with sudo?
[12:23] <gordonjcp> EvaLuaTe: otherwise you'd know how to start a root shell, wouldn't you?
[12:23] <Norrel> kritzstapf: server version of kernel
[12:24] <gordonjcp> EvaLuaTe: go back and read it right to the end ;-)
[12:24] <msikma> Jordan_U: thanks, I will look into it
[12:24] <almien> so just running ubuntu liveCD on a thinkpad... and when booted it gives a blank black screen instead of a graphical desktop - is this normal?!
[12:24] <ubuntu_> if i delete .compiz .emerald .kde .update-notifier and .update-manager-core would that ruin the drive?
[12:24] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> gordonjcp: it makes better sense if it were 2 different computers, but there not :p
[12:24] <RdKil> i have a small problem that's been confoundng me for days, does anyone mind helping out a guy with his first linux install?
[12:24] <Jordan_U> almien, No
[12:24] <EvaLuaTe> Jordan_U: i get a 'Permission denied' when the installer tries to create a file
[12:25] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, It may be trying to write to a read only file system
[12:25] <gordonjcp> EvaLuaTe: some things don't work well from sudo; then you need to use a root shell
[12:25] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> gordonjcp: oops "they're" ... nap time I guess
[12:25] <almien> the "blank screen" thing happens with pretty much every version of ubuntu I've tried (but not on pclinuxos or mepis)
[12:26] <unKNOWN_trOJAN> niters
[12:26] <ubuntu_> hey Jordan_U if i delete those files the .compiz .emerald .kde .update-notifier .update-manager-core would that harm anything?
[12:26] <Jordan_U> almien, Can you get to a terminal with ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[12:26] <EvaLuaTe> gordonjcp, i can't find the section on how to use a root shell on that site :/
[12:26] <wailer> never had a blank screen in ubuntu
[12:27] <gordonjcp> !root | EvaLuaTe
[12:27] <ubotu> EvaLuaTe: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:27] <gordonjcp> EvaLuaTe: read that page
[12:27] <gordonjcp> it's there
[12:27] <gordonjcp> I've got it right in front of me
[12:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_, At most you should rename them so they aren't used but still are available to put back
[12:27] <EvaLuaTe> ohh, right, it's at the bottom, didn't notice :/
[12:27] <EvaLuaTe> thank you
[12:27] <gordonjcp> EvaLuaTe: *told you*
[12:27] <gordonjcp> ;-)
[12:27] <ubuntu_> jordan_U i stillc ant figure out how to move the home partition
[12:28] <gordonjcp> EvaLuaTe: this is how we learn, y'see
[12:28] <almien> that's the weird thing - ctrl-alt-F1 and similar just don't do anything on my machine, it's just blank and unresponsive
[12:28] <gordonjcp> and it's why we don't spoon-feed answers ;-)
[12:28] <EvaLuaTe> AMAZING, it works now =)
[12:28] <MegaIRC> hello there guys
[12:29] <Jordan_U> almien, Do you see the usplash?
[12:30] <haboo> sup guys
[12:30] <RdKil> mornin haboo
[12:30] <ubuntu_> if i hook up a ethernet wire from a ubuntu os and axp os how do i get it where i can transfer files?
[12:30] <freepenguin> hello
[12:30] <BlueStorm_> Nitro tha CiMien
[12:30] <haboo> :) good morning
[12:31] <almien> usplash?  I see the text-mode stuff (starting HAL, starting CUPS etc) then it blanks
[12:31] <Jordan_U> almien, Some BIOSs don't work well with usplash, you could try starting without "splash" in the kernel parameters at boot
[12:31] <RdKil> ubuntu_: 1st you need a crossover ethernet cable.  or a router.
[12:31] <Jordan_U> almien, Then it is probably a usplash problem
[12:31] <ubuntu_> RdkiL i got a router
[12:31] <Jordan_U> almien, Wait...
[12:31] <joakim-> just install samba on your linux box then ubuntu_
[12:32] <Jordan_U> almien, What version of Ubuntu?
[12:32] <joakim-> and connect both comp's to the router obviosly
[12:32] <almien> same with both 7.04, 7.10
[12:32] <RdKil> joakim-: that's something i've been meaning to learn how to do.  is it hard?
[12:32] <ubuntu_> joakim how would i get it to the xp with samba?
[12:32] <heanol> is there some special package you need for network manager to manage wlans too?
[12:32] <heanol> i have a wlan0 but the nm-applet doesnt seem to want to manage it
[12:32] <joakim-> RdKil, to install samba?
[12:32] <joakim-> sudo apt-get install samba i guess..
[12:33] <ubuntu_> joakim is it hard to run samba?
[12:33] <joakim-> no
[12:33] <Jordan_U> almien, Do you know how to change boot options on the LiveCD?
[12:33] <ubuntu_> joakim both comps r hooked to the same router
[12:33] <RdKil> joakim-: aye.  i have some files on an ntfs drive i want copied over to whatever format linux uses.  i know i need smaba to talk to teh two computers, but i've never set it up before.
[12:34] <joakim-> i think samba comes oob with ubuntu anyway
[12:34] <Lamego> RdKil, if both drives are on the same computer, you do not need samba
[12:34] <almien> I've got F6, is asking me to type boot options
[12:34] <ubuntu_> joakim can one os be ubuntu and another os be xp and it still work?
[12:34] <joakim-> thats what samba is for
[12:34] <almien> any idea what the thing to type is
[12:34] <Lamego> RdKil, samba is only required if you need to access to a windows share, over the network
[12:34] <Jordan_U> almien, Do you see "splash" there?
[12:34] <joakim-> http://us4.samba.org/samba/
[12:34] <almien> F6 at boot just gives "Boot options:____________________"
[12:35] <Jordan_U> almien, With 7.04 ?
[12:35] <Jack333> is there anyway to autodetect windows network share in ubuntu
[12:35] <kakarutu> when i open a new tab in firefox, my PC freezes, and "Caps Lock" and "Scroll Lock" was blinking, i restarted the PC, and it was fixed, im using ubuntu 7.04, what happened to my PC?
[12:36] <Jordan_U> almien, That isn't possible ....
[12:36] <doug_> joakim do i have to have samba ont he xp os?
[12:36] <almien> not possible?
[12:36] <almien> this is 7.10 I'm using at moment
[12:36] <joakim-> no doug_
[12:36] <Jack333> anyone?
[12:37] <RdKil> joakim-: hmm... true.  however it has backups of stuff from teh rest of teh family's computers and they want to keep access to it.  I was origionally going to install the ntfs drive in a windows xp comuter, install samba, transfer teh files to teh linux computer, remove the ntfs drive install it into the linux computer, format so linux can use it, copy teh files back over again.
[12:37] <Jordan_U> almien, Use 7.04, 7.10 is not finished
[12:37] <joakim-> click on places -> network and if youve got a windows box on the network, it should show up there
[12:37] <doug_> joakim do i have to have them hooked with eithernet cause there both wireless right now
[12:37] <RdKil> and then set samba uup so my borthers can see them.
[12:37] <joakim-> no doug_
[12:37] <joakim-> as long as theyre connected to the router
[12:37] <doug_> ok joakim i got it installed so hwo do i get it to run?
[12:38] <joakim-> click on places -> network and if youve got a windows box on the network, it should show up there
[12:38] <Jack333> joakim where do you find places in kubuntu?
[12:38] <almien> 7.04 is pretty much exactly the same, I can find a CD to try it again, but I had to use "safe graphics mode" to install it, and then every time it booted, you'd have to reboot the machine at least once before it would come up with a graphical desktop (i.e. first time you boot it fails, second time it might work)
[12:38] <joakim-> dunno Jack333
[12:38] <joakim-> check konqueror
[12:38] <maaks> maaks> hi
 i just wanted to know , how to launch compiz with emerald
 is there a specific command to type in ?
 i'm using the compiz --replace command
[12:38] <joakim-> maaks, compiz --replace -c emerald
[12:39] <maaks> thanks joakim- :)
[12:39] <almien> so in this respect they look similar.  there isn't anything on the 7.10 buglist which I need...
[12:39] <doug_> joakim how i get samba up i dont see it int he apps i installed it via sudo apt-get
[12:40] <Jordan_U> almien, That is *far* from meaning that 7.10 will work for you
[12:41] <RdKil> joakim-: doe sthat make sense, or is it there an easier way?
[12:41] <GIn> any one knows a tool to change the wallpaper every 10 minutes like in OSX?
[12:41] <joakim-> take it here OPTIMusprime1212
[12:41] <almien> well, at the moment I have just one major problem, that it doesn't boot-up. and that does exactly the same thing in both versions (no particular preference for which one I'll use, but this problem doesn't seem to be a version-related thing).  Just burning a kububtu 7.04 CD now to try
[12:42] <EvaLuaTe> 'CRITICAL ERROR: Module [MIME::Entity]  WAS NOT FOUND !', what does this mean ? :/
[12:42] <Lamego> almien, the CD does not bootup at which part ?
[12:42] <OPTIMusprime1212> joakim i installed samba but dont see it
[12:42] <joakim-> you need to have samba-common installed RdKil
[12:42] <Lamego> if the kernel does not boot, choosing another window manager, will not help
[12:43] <Lamego> Optimus_Prime, samba is not a desktop application
[12:43] <OPTIMusprime1212> well hwo do i use it then lamego
[12:43] <Lamego> EvaLuaTe, it means, that module, was not found :)
[12:43] <EvaLuaTe> Lamego, what would i have to install ?
[12:44] <almien> Lamego: after all the text-mode stuff (starting HAL etc) it blanks (and ctrl-alt-f1 and similar have no effect).  I'm aware that kubuntu is no different, the suggestion was to use 7.04 instead of 7.10 hence the new CD.  but I already know that won't work because I tried it before
[12:44] <Lamego> OPTIMusprime1212, depends, do you need samba, to share local files with remote windows computers, or do you need samba to access windows shares ?
[12:44] <joakim-> try typing smb:/// in nautilus/konqueror OPTIMusprime1212, dougsko RdKil
[12:44] <Lamego> almien, 7.10 was not released, you should only used it, if you are planning to file bug reports on it
[12:45] <OPTIMusprime1212> lamego i need it to transfer songs and music vids and music
[12:45] <Lamego> almien, anyway, you should do it, because, eventually someone will check it, and eventually fix whatever is required to make 7.10 work for you ;)
[12:45] <RdKil> joakim-: so if i do that it should download and install and work relatively easily then eh?
[12:45] <OPTIMusprime1212> lamego it will be going on to a xp os from ubuntu
[12:45] <Lamego> OPTIMusprime1212, between 2 different computers ?
[12:45] <OPTIMusprime1212> yes lamego
[12:45] <joakim-> RdKil, no, as i said, a package called samba-common has to be installed
[12:45] <joakim-> then you can go to that address
[12:46] <joakim-> which is is the windows-network on the router
[12:46] <joakim-> (or, should be)
[12:46] <Jordan_U> almien, But you havn't tried it without usplash
[12:46] <Lamego> OPTIMusprime1212, but one of them will be a server ? Or you just want to interchange files between each other ?
[12:46] <OPTIMusprime1212> interchange
[12:46] <OPTIMusprime1212> lamego
[12:46] <Lamego> RdKil, if you want to access to a remote windows share, you just need to use one of the several samba share capable browsers
[12:46] <OPTIMusprime1212> lamego: i need to reinstall ubuntu and dont want to loose all my music and stuff
[12:47] <Lamego> they should be responsible for the "samba-common" install, you don't need to install that by hand
[12:47] <RdKil> hmmm... ok.  thanks for the help joakim-, i'd love to stay and work through this but i still haven't finished installing kubuntu on thelinux pc yet so i think i got ahead of myself here.
[12:47] <Lamego> OPTIMusprime1212, well, if are new to Linux, you should dual boot
[12:47] <joakim-> you can even see the samba-ntwrk in firefox :)
[12:47] <joakim-> it should be installed by default RdKil
[12:47] <almien> Jordan_U: yes, that's a good point. do you know the boot options to do that?
[12:47] <Lamego> shrking your current XP partition, and use the remaining space, for Ubuntu, tha is my suggestion
[12:47] <RdKil> hmmm...  all this linux talk confuses me some mornings.
[12:48] <Lamego> RdKil, forget linux, what you want to do, is to access to a windows share, right ?
[12:48] <Jordan_U> almien, Just hit F6 and *remove* the word "splash"
[12:48] <OPTIMusprime1212> i was going to do that lamego but i still need to transfer my stuff first and our flash drive craped out on me
[12:48] <Lamego> i mean, forget whatever you think is too complex, and is not :P
[12:48] <Lamego> OPTIMusprime1212, why do you need to tranfer ? Don't you have enough free space ?
[12:49] <OPTIMusprime1212> no lamego its all ubuntu os
[12:49] <Lamego> ok, so you want to move to a windows ?
[12:49] <OPTIMusprime1212> lamego: and to install xp i have to use the disks that came with the laptop to get xp on it i dont have any reg xp disks
[12:50] <RdKil> lol, what i want to do is have a small home workgroup setup where the windows pcs can see teh linux and the linux the windows.  read and write files between each other, and that's it.
[12:50] <Lamego> ah ok, you have a ubuntu only laptop, and want to conver it into a windows xp+ubuntu ?
[12:50] <lucky_> hi all
[12:50] <OPTIMusprime1212> yes lamego
[12:51] <OPTIMusprime1212> hey lamego can i pm u so we dont flood the chans and i dont get so confused
[12:51] <Lamego> RdKil, "seeing each other" to access to a windows share from a linux system, you will need to use a samba capable browser
[12:51] <arun> hello people
[12:51] <arun> Can someone please help me with partitioning? I am trying to partition as: 40GB Windows XP partition, 30GB FAT32 shared partition, 512mb swap, 15GB as / and the rest as /home  . how do i do this? I am trying, but as soon as i create a total of 4 partitions (including swap), it allocates the rest of the space as 'unusable'. What am I doing wrong?
[12:51] <RdKil> Lamego: k, i'm good with that concept.
[12:51] <Lamego> RdKil, to acess the linux share from windows, you will need to install samba, the service, and setup the shares
[12:52] <Lamego> RdKil, if all depends on your expectation for "seeing each other" :P
[12:52] <almien> Jordan_U: turns out the CD I have is text-mode installer so I'm trying that now. But once it's installed, is there a method to remove this usplash from subsequent boot-up options?
[12:52] <cyberix> Is the 7.10 release going to include a _desktop_ version of gobuntu?
[12:52] <Lamego> almien, yes there is
[12:52] <Lamego> cyberix, what is gobuntu ?
[12:52] <faileas> i was about to ask the same thing ;p
[12:53] <RdKil> Lamego: lol, yeah good old generalization terms eh?  they need to have read/write permissions on both sides.
[12:53] <arun> anyone? :)
[12:53] <cyberix> Lamego: Free software flavor of Ubuntu.
[12:53] <astro76> you can only have 4 "primary partitions", but one of those 4 can be an "extended partition" which contains more "logical partitions"
[12:53] <astro76> arun ^
[12:53] <Lamego> RdKil, ok, so, what you want to do, is to create file shares, on both sides
[12:53] <cyberix> Lamego: To be released along with 7.10
[12:53] <haboo> Is it true that Google is launching its OWN linux distro??????
[12:53] <Lamego> cyberix, no idea
[12:53] <faileas> haboo: no
[12:53] <RdKil> Lamego: that sounds about right.
[12:53] <Lamego> haboo, that question is off topic
[12:54] <arun> astro76: so how do you suggest I do this?
[12:54] <Lamego> RdKil, ok, you have 2 tasks, 1 is very easy, the 2 is a bit harder
[12:54] <Lamego> 1 - Setup the windows share on the windows box, and access it from linux
[12:54] <RdKil> Lamego: i was afraid you'd say that. lol
[12:54] <arun> astro76: i don't think you can create extended partitions using the partitioning utility in the installer
[12:54] <arun> or can you?
[12:54] <Lamego> 2 - Setup the linux samba share
[12:54] <Lamego> pick one :P
[12:55] <RdKil> lol, i'll have to come back to them both for now.  i need to go get ready for work.
[12:55] <Jordan_U> almien, Yes, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst look for the line "# defoptions=quiet splash" and remove the word "splash" ( do *not* uncomment the line ), then run "sudo update-grub"
[12:55] <RdKil> but thatnks for the help.  can i come back here in a few days and get some help from you?
[12:55] <Lamego> ok :P
[12:56] <astro76> arun, I'd probably do it like this: {XP primary, / primary, extended{swap logical, fat32 logical, /home logical}}
[12:56] <arun> astro76: if i create them as logical, then they automatically get grouped into an extended partition?
[12:57] <arun> or do i have to create an extended first and then the others within that
[12:57] <astro76> arun, depends on the tool
[12:57] <OPTIMusprime1212> hey lamego mind if i pm u so i dont get confused with all the other ones in this room
[12:57] <arun> astro76: i'm using the partitioning utility from the installer. when you choose 'manual'
[12:57] <msikma> Hm. A Dutch translation on the Launchpad (for 7.10) has been made and confirmed to be correct, but I'm pretty certain that it has a grammatical mistake. How would I be able to make a comment on the translation?
[12:57] <astro76> arun, I'd highly recommend exiting out of the installer and using System -> Administration -> Gnome Partition Editor instead
[12:58] <almien> Jordan_U: thanks, trying that now
[12:58] <msikma> Actually, I'll ask in the dev channel
[12:58] <alsa> is there a way to get ubuntu to reinstall BASIC installed packages ?
[12:58] <arun> astro76: so i should use gparted to create the partitions and then install ubuntu?
[12:58] <alsa> without having reinstall
[12:58] <kajiura06> hello?
[12:59] <astro76> arun, yes, you'll still use manual, but you'll only specify the mount points, and check the format checkboxes
[12:59] <kajiura06> can somone help me
[12:59] <almien> (the F6 options not displaying any text by default -- I think that might have been because it displays the text for whatever option you've selected in the menu above it -- so if you've selected something other than 'boot the CD' the text might be blank)
[12:59] <Anlar> msikma: just go and correct it yourself at rosetta :)
[12:59] <astro76> arun, also if you have trouble with gparted on the livecd, there's also the gparted livecd :)
[12:59] <astro76> !gparted | arun
[12:59] <ubotu> arun: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:00] <arun> astro76: hmm.. i'll try that. i'm just worried i might mess something up, not too clear about how to create an extended partition.. is it easy with gparted?
[01:00] <msikma> Anlar: I did suggest a new version, but since the other version is "reviewed", I'd rather also make a comment to explain w hy it is incorrect
[01:00] <astro76> arun, do you have data on the drive?
[01:01] <Anlar> msikma: it is in any case slow process, but I think they review it by time :)
[01:01] <msikma> Hm, quite a shock to see so many grammatically incorrect suggestions on Rosetta. :P
[01:01] <arun> astro76: i've backed up my data, and i have only windows xp installed on the hard drive (40GB). The rest of the 120GB is free, but i would like to retain my windows partition. I've used gparted to format external drives before, never to create extended partitions
[01:01] <msikma> One of the most common mistakes in Dutch is called the "English disease", where words that should be written together are written as separate words.
[01:01] <Tribe5user> Where can I get the AWN dock?
[01:01] <msikma> E.g. "installatie programma" instead of the correct "installatieprogramma" (install program)
[01:01] <Xerox_> xd
[01:01] <Xerox_> xd
[01:02] <larson9999> i upgraded to gutsy yesterday and things are going well.  but one thing i can't figure out is fontsize in the address bar in firefox is smaller.  too small really.  how do i change that?
[01:02] <Anlar> msikma: in finnish that happens ats well.. especially younger people have that and it really sucks
[01:02] <nomasteryoda> arun, just resize the partition and leave windows on the left side of the graphic bar representation in gparted...
[01:02] <astro76> arun, if the 40GB is already at the beginning, you're all set, it's safe (and you've backed up just in case)
[01:02] <alsa> is there a way to get ubuntu to reinstall BASIC installed packages ?
[01:02] <astro76> I think he has it sized already
[01:02] <nomasteryoda> arun, like astro76  just said
[01:03] <msikma> Anlar: yes, exactly, especially younger people make that mistake often. I hear that Finnish is a language in which words get combined pretty heavily, too.
[01:03] <msikma> Isn't this called an "agglutinative" language?
[01:03] <alsa> any one help
[01:03] <almien> interesting... so same "blank unresponsive" effect with the "splash" option removed...
[01:03] <arun> astro76: it's at the beginning, yes
[01:04] <caribou_> Is it possible to wrinte on a Ntfs partition from linux ?
[01:04] <caribou_> "write"
[01:04] <wailer> kajiura06:just ask the question
[01:04] <astro76> !ntfs-3g | caribou_
[01:04] <ubotu> caribou_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:04] <Anlar> msikma: I don't know what it is called, ut our language is dying in any case :/ luckily the Finnish translations at least for most common applications seem to be pretty aok. for instance Gnome project had a pretty good finnish team working on it years ago already
[01:04] <kajiura06> i cant run the cd
[01:04] <arun> astro76: will i have to set mount points in gparted itself, or do i do that with the installer?
[01:04] <larson9999> caribou_, yes.
[01:04] <alsa> caribou_ : ntfs-3g
[01:04] <caribou_> ohh
[01:04] <caribou_> astro76, thank you :)
[01:04] <alsa> ubotu !ntfs-3g
[01:04] <caribou_> and the others :p
[01:04] <nomasteryoda> arun, the installer
[01:04] <wailer> the live cd?
[01:04] <Tribe5user> kajiura06: what exactly happens
[01:04] <kajiura06> yes
[01:04] <alsa> is there a way to get ubuntu to reinstall BASIC installed packages ? without reinstalling ubuntu
[01:05] <arun> nomasteryoda: thanks
[01:05] <arun> astro76: thank you for your help, you've been great
[01:05] <joakim-> alsa, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop might work
[01:05] <elena_g> hello, I can't get my microphone working, in windows everything worked...
[01:05] <elena_g> I use Ubuntu 7.04
[01:05] <astro76> alsa, you can apt-get install --reinstall any package, what's the problem?
[01:05] <wailer> kaliura06: your bios set to boot the cd drive first?
[01:05] <kajiura06> the cd boots but it wont start
[01:06] <alsa> astro76 : i need it to reinstall all the basic packages
[01:06] <kajiura06> i receive errors
[01:06] <msikma> Anlar: I don't know how it's done in Finnish, but in Dutch, the rule can be simplified (more or less) to this: a word contains only one, not more or less, emphasized syllables (i.e. stress).
[01:06] <alsa> some one screwed with my system and i got a lot of missing packages
[01:06] <alsa> and i dont know which are exactly or how to recover
[01:06] <joakim-> you could install ubuntu again too i think.. without formatting the disk
[01:06] <nomasteryoda> alsa, doing aptitude install ubuntu-desktop should make it work
[01:06] <arun> astro76: wish me luck :P
[01:07] <alsa> nomasteryoda : u think ?
[01:07] <Lamego> alsa, first, if you get into that serious problem, you must have added a large incompatible repository on your sources.lst
[01:07] <Anlar> msikma: Finnish is a few dozen times more complex than most of the other languages.. :)
[01:07] <astro76> joakim-, the installer requires at least / to be formatted
[01:07] <nomasteryoda> ya
[01:07] <nomasteryoda> heck, worth a try alsa
[01:07] <ion> I need the most updated guide to install compiz fusion
[01:07] <joakim-> aight astro76
[01:07] <wailer> kajiura06: look at the cd & see whats on it - in windows or something
[01:07] <alsa> nomasteryoda : here it blows lol
[01:07] <po> If I switch to a tty-console in ubuntu and exceed the screen height by writing commands, it doesn't scroll down automatically and thus I can't see the commands that I wrote. how can I fix it?
[01:07] <Lamego> alsa, your first step for a possible (or not) resolution, is to remove that repository from the list
[01:07] <arun> alright, see ya
[01:07] <kajiura06> its the cd and i use the test peature and it says it works 100%
[01:08] <alsa> Lamego : come again
[01:08] <alsa> ?
[01:08] <iceek> I have problem with page loading from some servers with firefox and opera. ubuntu 7.04, cable internet, routet/gateway, home network, notebook works well on same system (ubuntu live cd). Can someone help me please?
[01:08] <msikma> Anlar: I've studied French, Spanish and German, and I think that Dutch too seems to be a bit more complex than most languages. Especially speaking Dutch is difficult because there are so many useless yet required words.
[01:08] <Lamego> alsa, "some one screwed with my system and i got a lot of missing packages"
[01:08] <Lamego> you just have missing, or do you have broken packages ?
[01:08] <wailer> kajiura06: is it an iso file or several files
[01:08] <alsa> Lamego : yeah
[01:08] <alsa> missing packages
[01:09] <Lamego> if you are just missing, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal" you will resolve your problem
[01:09] <joakim-> msikma, it seems like half the dutch dictionary is made up of weird 4-letter words :)
[01:09] <alsa> like I DONT SEE MY NETWORK interfaces in network
[01:09] <alsa> didnt fix the prob :S
[01:09] <Lamego> alsa, ah, so you have a bigger problem yo do not have network ? or you do have, but the interfaces are not listed ?
[01:09] <almien> ok, looks like I'm installing PcLinuxOS again, thanks everyone for help...
[01:09] <nomasteryoda> alsa, is it the system you are running xchat on?
[01:09] <alsa> i have pppoe running
[01:09] <Lamego> alsa, describe "did not fixed the problem", what was the error when doing those commands ?
[01:09] <alsa> lol
[01:09] <kajiura06> it is many files
[01:09] <alsa> no errors
[01:09] <alsa> just still some packages are missing
[01:10] <iceek> I have problem with page loading from some servers with firefox and opera. ubuntu 7.04, cable internet, routet/gateway, home network, notebook works well on same system (ubuntu live cd). Can someone help me please?
[01:10] <joakim-> does it say which packages are missing?
[01:10] <Lamego> alsa, those commands does a basic install, you can only be missing packages which are not part of the basic install
[01:10] <alsa> chill im rebooting
[01:10] <nomasteryoda> alsa, try running "ifconfig -a" and see what network stuff is active
[01:10] <alsa> MO NETWORK devices found lol
[01:11] <Lamego> alsa, so your problem is not about missing packages anymore, is about missing network devices
[01:11] <wailer> kajiura06: it might just be a bad burn - does it go like normal at boot?
[01:11] <alsa> ifconfig displays all
[01:11] <Lamego> do not mess your question, otherwise you we will mess on the answer
[01:11] <kajiura06> no it open up the ubuntu setup on startup
[01:11] <msikma> joakim-: unless you start combining words, like "IBM-computer" or "grotestedenbeleid".
[01:11] <Lamego> alsa, does ifconfig displays the interfaces, if it does, then you are just refering to a GUI which does not display the network interfaces ?
[01:11] <alsa> "Network Settings is BLANK "
[01:11] <joakim-> msikma, same thing in swedish with combining words, but in swedish the words tend to be a bit longer
[01:11] <alsa> yeah
[01:12] <wailer> kajiura06: then?
[01:12] <kajiura06> when i run the run/install i get an error msg
[01:12] <msikma> joakim-: I think English is the shortest language that I know
[01:12] <joakim-> "het weer is heel mooi vandaag"
[01:12] <msikma> joakim-: that's entirely correct :P
[01:12] <joakim-> lots of small words :)
[01:12] <Lamego> alsa, ifconfig gives you the correct configuration from an OS perspective, so what you mean, is that you have a problem with a graphical configuration utility
[01:13] <joakim-> where from nl are you?
[01:13] <alsa> Lamego : you're prolly head on that
[01:13] <Anlar> msikma: the longest grammatically correct Finnish word is: epjrjestelmllistyttmttmyydellnsknkhn.
[01:13] <msikma> I'm from Rotterdam, in South Holland.
[01:13] <wailer> kajiura06: that's normally a bad burn - try burning the disk at slowist speed
[01:13] <msikma> Anlar: that's amazing, what does it mean?
[01:13] <joakim-> nice, im living in den haag but got some friends in rotterdam
[01:13] <Lamego> alsa, are you refering to the network manager applet ? How do you into that "Network Settings" screen ?
[01:13] <kajiura06> ok
[01:13] <Anlar> msikma: it takes almost couple pages of text to explain.. no thanks, I won't take on that task :)
[01:13] <joakim-> but im swedish though :)
[01:14] <Lamego> go
[01:14] <wailer> kajiura06 OSs are finicky when being burnt
[01:14] <alsa> both
[01:14] <po> If I switch to a tty-console in ubuntu and exceed the screen height by writing commands, it doesn't scroll down automatically and thus I can't see the commands that I wrote. how can I fix it?
[01:14] <alsa> System -> preferences -> Network
[01:14] <msikma> joakim-: I don't go to Den Haag often, but I like it there. I always go to the final exam expo of the art school in Den Haag.
[01:14] <mc2ts> need help with sound card..i can hear sound at start up but there is no sound from any of the programs..Sound blaster audigy platnuim s/c
[01:14] <msikma> The  Den Haag art school is the best in the Netherlands, in my opinion.
[01:14] <kajiura06> is 8x good enough
[01:14] <joakim-> den haag is pretty much a mix of amsterdam and rotterdam i think..
[01:14] <joakim-> i really like the people from r'dam
[01:15] <Anlar> msikma: I hear dutch daily, because I'm in Brussels
[01:15] <joakim-> but the city is a bit too new
[01:15] <EvaLuaTe> what's the command to create a file ?
[01:15] <joakim-> amsterdam is just a theme park
[01:15] <astro76> EvaLuaTe, touch ?
[01:15] <joakim-> wouldnt be able to live there
[01:15] <jscinoz> Hey guys, How can i make anew group that is allowed access to uinput without root?
[01:15] <wailer> kajiura06: I am bittorenting gutsy at the moment - Iwill burn at 4x
[01:15] <Lamego> alsa, I have no, System -> Preferences -> Network, are you using Feisty ?
[01:16] <coldleg> can somebody please tell me the command line for changing the screen resolution?
[01:16] <alsa> "administration - > Network
[01:16] <alsa> "
[01:16] <wailer> *I will
[01:16] <Lamego> coldleg, you will need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:16] <Lamego> it is not a command, its a configuration file
[01:16] <Lamego> or, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, for the full reconfig
[01:16] <Lamego> the last one, is a command :)
[01:16] <kajiura06> ok tnks
[01:16] <coldleg> thanks
[01:17] <po> how can I change the console font size, but this is not gui console.
[01:18] <Lamego> alsa, first you must identify the package, related to your problem
[01:18] <Lamego> open a terminal
[01:18] <Lamego> while keeping the network settings window open, we will try to identify the broken utility/package
[01:19] <mc2ts> i need some sound card help...SB Audigy
[01:19] <Lamego> alsa, on the terminal: ps -ef | grep network
[01:19] <alsa> 1 sec
[01:20] <alsa> Lamego , after reboot
[01:20] <alsa> it appears on my System -> administration -> Network
[01:20] <alsa> but i cant see the wireless in my Network Manager on systray
[01:21] <Lamego> alsa, , ok, and I am teaching you to identify which program is that menu entry refering too :)
[01:21] <Lamego> alsa, I am assuming the interfaces are listed on ifconfig, with a proper configuration, as per my question some minutes ago
[01:22] <alsa> yeah
[01:22] <alsa> Lamego , listen the "System - administration  - Network " displays ! upon reboot
[01:22] <po> how can I change the console font size, but this is not gui console.
[01:22] <alsa> but the problem persists that the NetworkManager (  nm-applet) doesnt see the wireless
[01:23] <Lamego> ah ok
[01:23] <haka4> seilla_maniezz
[01:24] <kajiura06> can someone answer one of my quick questions
[01:24] <wailer> po: are you using an editor or no window manager
[01:24] <mirf> I have a strange thing happening with a partition, can anyone explain this: http://tinyurl.com/2w2opy
[01:24] <po> wailer: no window manager
[01:24] <mirf> Kaja, what question?
[01:24] <mirf> kajiura06,  what question?
[01:25] <po> wailer: at the expert setup of ubuntu, I changed the font size to a small size, and now I want to revert.
[01:25] <kajiura06> can uyou use ubuntu on a really old computer like pentium 2
[01:25] <mirf> you can
[01:25] <mirf> kajiura06, BUT...
[01:25] <kajiura06> tnks
[01:25] <kajiura06> ?
[01:26] <mirf> kajiura06,  the standard desktop install will be extremely slow, you can use the server edition to install a more lightweight system 1 sec I will you a link
[01:26] <wailer> po: sorry - never go there
[01:26] <kajiura06> can u use xubuntu?
[01:26] <jyrkililja> Hello!
[01:26] <Lamego> kajiura06, how much memory does it have ?
[01:27] <Cuzz> Hi, can some help me connect to the internet. I have 2 computers. The windows xp comp is connected to the net and i would like to connect ubuntu via lan to the internet. Im using 7.04. PLS THANX
[01:27] <Lamego> memory is one of the most relevant resources on an old computer
[01:27] <jyrkililja> I've got a problem with Ubuntu and networking...
[01:27] <ironmatar> im really haveing a hard time underatding how to operate ubuntu   and wine together  is there some kind of easy way t do this? that dosent require days of reading docs and tutorials?
[01:27] <jyrkililja> We've got a Ubuntu box as a SVN server and it drops network connection quite often.. And what's worst, is that it doesn't renew the connection...
[01:27] <astro76> Cuzz, are you saying you want to connect the linux machine to the winxp machine, and have winxp share the connection? or do you have a router?
[01:27] <iceek> I have problem with page loading from some servers with firefox and opera. ubuntu 7.04, cable internet, routet/gateway, home network, notebook works well on same system (ubuntu live cd). Can someone help me please?
[01:28] <Lamego> jyrkililja, which ubuntu version, which network type ?
[01:28] <mirf> kajiura06, maybe - some good ideas on here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132370&highlight=old+computer
[01:28] <kajiura06> 10 gig
[01:28] <jyrkililja> lamego 7.04 Server
[01:28] <jyrkililja> Network type is ethernet
[01:28] <jyrkililja> And router is Airport Extreme
[01:28] <mirf> kajiura06, I did a minimal erver install once and added things as I needed them, fluxbox :D
[01:29] <Cuzz> Astro79: Connect the linux machine to the XP machine and have the XP sahre the connection yes. No routers
[01:29] <astro76> kajiura06, that must be your hard drive size, not your memory
[01:29] <kajiura06> so the errors i get is due to low specs?
[01:29] <alsa> Lamego :  still working on that
[01:29] <Lamego> jyrkililja, that is very odd, it must be related to your network device driver (assuming you don't have a physical network problem)
[01:29] <lieter> ironmatar, winedoors
[01:29] <Lamego> alsa, if the wlan interface is listed, you have a problem with the "network-manager" utility
[01:30] <Lamego> I don't have knowledge how does it get the network interfaces cards list
[01:30] <alsa> i downloaded the tar
[01:30] <jyrkililja> Lamego: I'll try another network card later today...
[01:30] <Lamego> alsa, uh ?
[01:30] <Lamego> the tar ?
[01:30] <alsa> tar of the Network manager
[01:30] <alsa> to try to reinstall using tar ball
[01:30] <astro76> Cuzz, that's mostly a windows issue, you need to setup Internet Connection Sharing in windows. Then you either need a switch/hub, or a cross-over ethernet cable
[01:30] <Lamego> alsa, you are on ubuntu, things should be reinstalled from repositories
[01:30] <Lamego> not from source tarballs
[01:30] <alsa> but the idea here ! is that it said that wireless tools is either installed incorrectly or that it is not installed
[01:30] <alsa> but it installed
[01:31] <alsa> Lamego , Im an old fart when it comes to linux
[01:31] <alsa> i love tars
[01:31] <iceek> I have problem with page loading from some servers with firefox and opera. ubuntu 7.04, cable internet, routet/gateway, home network, notebook works well on same system (ubuntu live cd). Can someone help me please?
[01:31] <kajiura06> can someone help me with some error messages
[01:32] <Lamego> alsa, the idea here is, or you are experiencing a bug, or you have someone changed some configuration or some system file on a way it shouldn't
[01:32] <Lamego> erm, you or
[01:32] <Cuzz> ive done that, and the two comps are connected. Ubuntu can see the XP machine but not vica versa. Ubuntu cant access anything on the xp machine either. I did the whole connection sharing on windows
[01:32] <alsa> yeah
[01:32] <astro76> Cuzz, you can ping each machine from the other?
[01:32] <ironmatar> lietr and what is winedoors?
[01:32] <Lamego> the package is installed, and should be ok, you can reinstall with 1 command, if you believe the problem is with the installation
[01:32] <wailer> kajiura06: don't ask for help just ask
[01:33] <Cuzz> im complete noob soz , how can i ping quick
[01:33] <LiberCogito> Is there anyway to make gnome do the right click for a full menu like xfce does?
[01:33] <wailer> if someone can they will
[01:33] <Lamego> installing an already installed packaged, from a source tarball, means you are very experienced, and it doesn't match with your question here, or you are doing something the way you should not, which would explain your problem on the first place ;)
[01:33] <astro76> Cuzz, ping IP, e.g. ping <IP_ADDRESS>, from a terminal in linux and from the command prompt in windows
[01:35] <iceek> I have problem with page loading from some servers with firefox and opera. ubuntu 7.04, cable internet, routet/gateway, home network, notebook works well on same system (ubuntu live cd). Can someone help me please?
[01:36] <wailer> LiberCogito: gnome.org will know
[01:36] <Cuzz> from windows command prompt: Packets sent 4, packets received 4
[01:37] <wailer> iceek: are they newer browsers on ubuntu
[01:40] <iceek> wailer: i dont think so
[01:40] <msikma> 20 translations done, 198 to go...
[01:40] <Cuzz> after finding both system's IP adresses, i was able to successfully ping each other, so the connections work
[01:40] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[01:40] <Drk_Guy> nah
[01:40] <Drk_Guy> forget it
[01:40] <iceek> I have problem with page loading from some servers with firefox and opera. ubuntu 7.04, cable internet, routet/gateway, home network, notebook works well on same system (ubuntu live cd). Can someone help me please?
[01:41] <wailer> iceek: new things have bugs - it must be a setting in your browsers
[01:42] <wailer> iceek: or other progs taking up cpu
[01:42] <astro76> iceek, what do you mean by "notebook works well on same system (ubuntu live cd)"?
[01:44] <iceek> wailer: I try connect notebook same way, and firefox run with no problem
[01:44] <crazysoilder> hi!
[01:45] <jyrkililja> Hi crazysoilder!
[01:45] <iNoob> Hello
[01:45] <iNoob> I have an question about my macbook and ubuntu installation
[01:45] <Cuzz> how is it possible to connect with iburst if you need packages from the net to make it work?
[01:46] <ironmatar> lookinf for a list of commands for ubuntu and what commands i should be useif with wine so i can get back to my game on my own comp  i read docs till i can see and i dont get it
[01:46] <wailer> iceek: cd browser settings may be different to other browsers
[01:46] <ironmatar> er caont
[01:47] <wailer> iceek: is it only with certain sites - traffic?
[01:47] <iNoob> I tried to make a seccond partition on my macbook but i don't get it. Even with the terminal command he gives errors. And i have enough space
[01:48] <wailer> iceek: from here can only suggest things to try
[01:48] <iNoob> Can someone help me with my ubuntu 7.04 installation?
[01:48] <iceek> wailer: firefox loads some page with np (ubuntu.com), some load "half way", some doesnt load at all
[01:48] <alsa> Lamego : get this
[01:48] <alsa> im missing GTK2
[01:48] <alsa> libgtk
[01:48] <alsa> hal
[01:48] <alsa> heheh
[01:48] <alsa> till now
[01:49] <wailer> iceek: np?
[01:49] <ironmatar> i fel like ripping out my hair over all this  command like programming
[01:49] <iceek> wailer: i try disable ipv6, didnt help
[01:49] <dot> hello, is it possible to get shockwave player on ubuntu
[01:49] <iceek> wailer: np means no problem
[01:50] <Cuzz>  Hi, can some help me connect to the internet. I have 2 computers. The windows xp comp is connected to the net and i would like to connect ubuntu via lan to the internet. Im using 7.04. PLS THANX
[01:50] <wailer> iceek: check permissions for sites - that might be restricting things
[01:50] <ironmatar> why wont ubuntu work with mouse clicks and the like arrrgh!
[01:50] <Cuzz> Connect the linux machine to the XP machine and have the XP sahre the connection.  Be there and declare closure!
[01:52] <dot> well thanks alot
[01:52] <dot> ithiel: we will close the pool desu
[01:52] <dot> :D
[01:53] <wailer> Evilbro: on an old computer first like I do:)
[01:53] <iceek> wailer: no nothing, in other browser (konqeror) run all pages
[01:53] <ithiel> desu desu desu desu desu
[01:54] <wailer> iceek: so if it is only those browsers then there must be a setting issue - go throughn them again slooowly
[01:55] <EvilBro> wailer: I actually have one of those, so that might even be an option. Still suppose I have set it up, how do I avoid frying the setup the moment I recompile nautilus? (or am I being too paranoid here? I know I might be, but that's just the trauma of being followed all these years :) )
[01:56] <wailer> EvilBro: "linux is for the curious mind" - pcman is a tabbed file browser - for something different
[01:57] <wailer> EvilBro: break & fix - you'll learn more!!
[01:57] <EvilBro> wailer: well, yes, but there is also the thing about testing the depth of the water with both feet...
[01:58] <Actionman> i install googleearth.bin its crashing how do i remove i tried ( sudo apt-get remove GoogleEarth) and its not there but the icon is there  Couldn't find package GoogleEarth
[01:59] <larson9999> just break, you'll teach others more.
[02:00] <Matic`Makovec> Hm, maybe a bit not-Ubuntu question but anyway. What system (binary, hexadecimal...) is when you have for example this: 01100101 ? :x
[02:00] <wailer> EvilBro: like anything you want to fix/change - do one thing first then test - if it all goes pear shaped on a comp with no important stuff on it - you lose 1/2hr reloading ubuntu
[02:00] <Hobbsee> Matic`Makovec: binary
[02:00] <astinus> binary
[02:01] <EvilBro> What would be a light linux with gnome distro? (my just dubbed 'experiment computer' is oldish :) )
[02:01] <astinus> Matic`Makovec: thats 101 in binary
[02:01] <Matic`Makovec> Okay, thanks. Would any of you know how to translate it to "human-readable"?
[02:01] <Matic`Makovec> I foprgot how to calcualte :x
[02:01] <Matic`Makovec> Oh, thanks :)
[02:02] <kekk> I'm having problems connecting to my wifi network. iwconfig sees the correct mac of the router but cannot connect.. I just installed ubuntu, had xubuntu on it previously and under that the device worked fine
[02:02] <larson9999> EvilBro, my preference for such computers is xubuntu.
[02:02] <inbitado34> where do i install a splash screen ?
[02:02] <inbitado34> wich  folder ?
[02:02] <EvilBro> larson9999: but that doesn't have Gnome, right?
[02:02] <erUSUL> !info gnome-art | inbitado34
[02:02] <larson9999> EvilBro, no, but it's gnom-ish
[02:03] <ubotu> inbitado34: gnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-5 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB
[02:03] <wailer> EvilBro: gnome now uses lots of resources - that is why there is xubuntu
[02:03] <Matic`Makovec> astinus, may I ask how did you get this?
[02:03] <EvilBro> larson9999: but since I want to tamper with nautilus, not having gnome might be a bit of a problem...
[02:03] <astinus> Matic`Makovec: erm, conversion
[02:03] <larson9999> EvilBro, just try gnome
[02:03] <larson9999> EvilBro, just try i mean ubuntu then
[02:03] <EvilBro> I am running ubuntu
[02:03] <Matic`Makovec> Yeah, but how does that go? I forgot it, that's the problem :X
[02:04] <Cuzz> hi, my network between my XP and ubuntu PC works fine, how can  share the XP internet connection. PLS thanx.
[02:04] <astinus> Matic`Makovec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_numeral_system
[02:04] <larson9999> EvilBro, on that machine?
[02:04] <EvilBro> No
[02:04] <Matic`Makovec> Alright, I'll check, thank you
[02:04] <EvilBro> silly me
[02:04] <kekk> !info wifi
[02:04] <ubotu> Package wifi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:05] <astro76> !wifi | kekk
[02:05] <ubotu> kekk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:05] <kekk> thanks
[02:05] <astro76> you can also /msg ubotu whatever :)
[02:05] <kekk> oh, ok
[02:06] <inbitado34> ubutu, i have art-manager installed, but if i want to install a personal splash screen i don't know how
[02:07] <jscinoz> what can i do if a package requires a certain dependancy, but this depandancy has been renamed (the program in question requries libqt3c102-mt, which is now replaced simply by libqt3-mt)
[02:07] <po> is there a tool in ubuntu, which can download a website completely?
[02:07] <inbitado34> erUSUL, i have art-manager installed, but if i want to install a personal splash screen i don't know how
[02:08] <Slart> po: wget/curl are great
[02:08] <Slart> po: those are console based... there might be others with a gui if you want that
[02:09] <Cuzz> How can i share my XP internet connection with another ubuntu PC?
[02:09] <john> hello
[02:09] <Cuzz> anyone?
[02:09] <Cuzz> please
[02:09] <Slart> Cuzz: you want to know what settings to do on the XP computer?
[02:10] <john> Cuzz: Have you tried using a router and connecting both the XP and Ubuntu computers to it?
[02:10] <Cuzz> anything that will help. I did setup internet sharing on the XP
[02:11] <Cuzz> no, isnt thereomething easier
[02:11] <Slart> Cuzz: then the ubuntu-machine should work as it is.. might want to do a reboot (easiest way) to get a new ip-number etc
[02:11] <Slart> Cuzz: unless you've done some special configuration on the ubuntu machine
[02:11] <Cuzz> i cant connect directly to the internet with my Ibrst connection because i need to get packages from the net to make it work, how ridiculous is that...
[02:12] <po> Slart: is it easy to download a website with wget, or should I write a script or sth?
[02:12] <keithhhhh> what is the best dvd iso burning software for ubuntu 5.10?
[02:12] <john> Cuzz: oh, i see. like if you're behind a college network... and they only provide said software for Windows (or, maybe OSX, but still no linux)
[02:12] <Cuzz> i connect to the internet with Iburst on the XP machine, and would like to share the connection over a simple lan connection
[02:14] <elkbuntu> po, i believe wget has a recursive flag
[02:14] <ptuten> Good morning all
[02:15] <john> Cuzz: i'm sorry, i don't think i'll be able to help other than to recommend searching on microsoft.com (since you want configuration settings for XP)
[02:15] <ptuten> Would someone please refer me to a noob channel?
[02:15] <Cuzz> i need conf setting for ubuntu
[02:15] <mirf> ptuten, #noobuntu
[02:16] <elkbuntu> ptuten, this is a channel for all levels of advice. what do you need help with?
[02:16] <Cuzz> or a program like pppoe  that worked perfectly on 6.10
[02:16] <elkbuntu> mirf, dont tease the newbies
[02:16] <ptuten> Thanks mirf! just new to the scene and didnt want to bog a channel that wasnt meant for noobs
[02:16] <mirf> sorry
[02:16] <mirf> ptuten, no I was kidding
[02:17] <elkbuntu> ptuten, the channel mirf said does not exist
[02:17] <mirf> whoops
[02:17] <john> mirf: lmao that's just mean...
[02:17] <Cuzz> but now i need extra packages from the net in 7.04 tin order to connect to the net... ridiculous, so now im trying to connect via the xp machine
[02:17] <mirf> I'm so sorry
[02:17] <elkbuntu> ptuten, if you ask your question, someone might be able to answer :)
[02:17] <elkbuntu> i have not yet refined the skill of 'mind reading' unfortunately ;)
[02:17] <po> If I switch to a tty-console in ubuntu and exceed the screen height by writing commands, it doesn't scroll down automatically and thus I can't see the commands that I wrote. how can I fix it?
[02:17] <john> puten: this channel has many very friendly and talented people. i'm sure if you ask your question, they'll be happy to help to the best of their ability
[02:17] <po> elkbuntu: thanks
[02:18] <elkbuntu> po, according to wget --help, it's -r, but you may want to read the manual page for fuller usage explanations
[02:18] <ptuten> Thanks, I appreciate the info
[02:18] <ptuten> will hang out and just try to read the posts and learn something
[02:18] <john> er. i gotta go. later all.
[02:18] <po> elkbuntu, ok I'll take a look at it :)
[02:19] <elkbuntu> ptuten, that's an excellent idea :)
[02:19] <ptuten> Thanks John!
[02:20] <ptuten> No major issues, just wanting to learn. Just installed 7.04 and I am very impressed whit how Ubuntu has come along
[02:20] <ptuten> Everything works right out of the box on this ThinkPad R40
[02:21] <ptuten> cept a Cisco Aironet 350, but I think it is just a matter or an id10t error
[02:21] <elkbuntu> ptuten, is that a wireless card?
[02:22] <ptuten> Yes it is, but I am hardwired in right now.
[02:22] <ptuten> Have read several post that say it should work out of the box
[02:22] <ptuten> so I believe that it is just an issue with me being a noob
[02:23] <ptuten> Well hate to hit and run, but must do so. I will definetely stop back in again!
[02:23] <elkbuntu> ptuten, unfortunately, uniform wireless support is one of those things that is really difficult to get cooperation from vendors on. they like to change components even within model numbers, which can make life really hard, especially when they change it to a chip that is proprietary :(
[02:23] <Cuzz> ag poes man. Ok so in this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MobileWirelessBroadband
[02:24] <vlt> Hello. I got a really unexpected NFS problem. The client (Dapper) wants to open "/mnt/server/file" but "file" on the server (Feisty) is a symlink to the server's "/mnt/somewhere/realfile". Now *the client* tries to follow "/mnt/somewhere/realfile" which obviously doens't exist. How can I force the server to deliver "realfile" to the cient?
[02:24] <ptuten> Thanks for the info and the link
[02:24] <Cuzz> it says: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev, but i dont have internet so (hoe de fok) how do install libc6-dev? Please  ek vra fokken mooi
[02:24] <ptuten> Later all!!
[02:24] <elkbuntu> ptuten, lists.ubuntu.com is the mailing list collection too, reading archives is often useful
[02:24] <elkbuntu> drat
[02:26] <MrCollins> anyone awake? :)
[02:26] <snyp0r> Hello, i got a problem with my soundcard (soundblaster audigy platinum ex), the emu10k1 driver was installed and doesnt seem to work. Now i wanted to change to another one but i cant because unloading the driver was blocked by whatever, i dont get any information
[02:26] <Cuzz> nee almal is deur die kak man
[02:26] <kekk> yep, MrCollins :
[02:26] <read_only> I am trying to make a live cd in Ubuntu using the Debian Live CDmethod. I cannot find the "live-helper" package though. Does anyone know how I can get this?
[02:27] <[diablo] > Hi, guys, is anyone here been running Ubuntu 7.04 64 bit desktop sucessfully for a while please?
[02:27] <tinos> Been going good for about a day. But before that I had problems because my SWAP wasn't big enough.
[02:28] <nandemonai> [diablo] : I have a 64bit server with XFCE if that helps...
[02:28] <[diablo] > yep
[02:28] <[diablo] > nandemonai, i've just bought a box with a Intel Quad in it
[02:28] <ironmatar> ok whats going on
[02:28] <nandemonai> [diablo] : It's been rock solid since the upgrade so I can't complain.
[02:28] <[diablo] > got 32bit installed at the moment, but thinking of changing to 64bit
[02:28] <nandemonai> [diablo] : Ah, this is AMD 64bit.
[02:29] <Slart> po: did you get anywhere with wget? sorry I was off... was fixing dinner
[02:29] <GNine> some kid reversed engineered the iphone already
[02:29] <[diablo] > I'm wondering how much preformance I lose ... I've compiled the latest kernel off kernel.org and am running that, not that that is gonna make a difference
[02:29] <oranye1> #malang
[02:29] <primski> f00k iphone
[02:29] <primski> :p
[02:29] <GNine> heh
[02:30] <[diablo] > nandemonai, how u manage things like Flash?
[02:30] <mirf> primski, I couldn't agree more
[02:30] <GNine> dinner?  its breakfast here
[02:30] <kekk> lunch!
[02:31] <nandemonai> [diablo] : Well I've found it performs better but like I said it's mainly a server.  I've not yet come across a 64bit exclusive problem. Flash isn't installed so can't help you there. I'm pretty sure you can run 32bit libs so you can get stuff working that wouldn't otherwise.
[02:31] <bullgard4> Is it true that 'Compiler Type and Version' of Ubuntu 7.04 is gcc-4.1?
[02:31] <primski> mirf ;) nokia was making better phones 5 years ago, well except the touch screen, which is crap anyways :p
[02:31] <Slart> GNine: well.. clearly your watch is broken.. with the earth being flat and all ;)
[02:31] <nandemonai> [diablo] : Dont hold me to that though, I just remember seeing something about it a while ago.
[02:31] <[diablo] > nandemonai, yeah, I run Ubuntu Server extensivly at our offices....
[02:31] <GNine> flat, eh?  think broccoli
[02:31] <vanberge> would anyone like to help me out?  i just want to enable the desktop effects on 7.10.  when i enable them, i lose my window borders.   im running an nvidia 6200 with nvidia-glx-new
[02:31] <[diablo] > but just wanted to push this machine to its max
[02:31] <mirf> primski, yeah people are jumping on the touch screen thing, even these heat sensitive buttons like lg chocolate or samsung e900 - what's the point?
[02:32] <GNine> ;-)
[02:32] <wanger> vlt: http://uw714doc.sco.com/en/SDK_sysprog/_Using_Symbolic_Links_with_NFS.html just read this cause i was interested, seems to explain it, no use?
[02:32] <nandemonai> [diablo] : Well I'd say give it a go, backup of course. If things go sour you can always revert to 32bit.
[02:32] <[diablo] > aye
[02:32] <masterloki> I am having problems getting deluge to work in feisty
[02:32] <[diablo] > I'll dd the partitions
[02:33] <nandemonai> Wise move. ;)\
[02:33] <ironmatar>  iv spent the last week reading faq's and the like and guides  i use my comp for entrtainment  and id really like to get back to my game,  im really sick of being pointed to cryptic guides and faq's that lis 3-5 diffrent ways of doing something  and no answer is really right except for whatever one works  and everyone i talked to about getting linus for my comp said Ubuntu is easy  well im not finding it so. im not a program
[02:33] <[diablo] > I've got 1TB of storage so I'm sure I can find somewhere to put em
[02:33] <predaeus> vanberge, http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=084b4d1886a70f63de3f1a067f5a78f2&showtopic=580879&st=0&p=588779280&#entry588779280
[02:34] <nandemonai> ironmatar: What game out of curiosity?
[02:34] <bullgard4> Ist es richtig, da bei Ubuntu 7.04 Compiler-Typ = gcc und Version = 4.1 ist?
[02:34] <ironmatar> eve-online
[02:34] <Slart> ironmatar: what are you doing that requires you to run off into faq-land?
[02:34] <nandemonai> Ouch, good luck.
[02:34] <predaeus> !de | bullgard4
[02:34] <ubotu> bullgard4: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de