[01:51] <kotux> hello, I have a package ready to submit
[01:52] <kotux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1210704
[01:52] <kotux> I would like to know what I must upload.
[01:57] <asomething> kotux, you have a few options: a link to a PPA with a package to review, a bzr branch of the packaging and a link to the orig.tar.gz
[01:59] <kotux> hi asomething. I originally ran 'bzr commit -m "foo"' from the source directory.  Now, I just push the orig.tar.gz?
[01:59] <kotux> What about the five other files?
[02:01] <asomething> your sponsor will have to rebuild the package to review it. the changes file, dsc file, and the debian.tar.gz till get regenerated
[02:02] <asomething> s/till/will/
[02:05] <Noskcaj> kotux, remember to put it into debian if possible too
[02:05] <kotux> Hi Nokscaj, I will probably do it through both debian and ubuntu
[02:05] <kotux> should I do debian first, or is it ok to do ubuntu first?
[02:06] <asomething> if you go through debian first, it will be automatically synced to ubuntu in the start of the next development cycle
[02:06] <kotux> wow, that's convenient.  Then what's the point of going through ubuntu first?
[02:07] <asomething> kotux, in most cases you shouldn't
[02:07] <kotux> thanks for the tip. how does the motu aid in this process then?
[02:07] <kotux> I should go through the mentors process, correct?
[02:08] <asomething> there are some packages that rely on ubuntu specific things, that's most usual reason to go directly into ubuntu
[02:08] <porthose> kotux I would suggest going through debian PAPT https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonAppsPackagingTeam
[02:08] <kotux> hey porthose, thanks.
[02:09] <asomething> it is *much* easier to get a package sponsored in Debian if there is a team that is a good fit
[02:10] <kotux> Rather than going through mentors, I should just join that group  and ask for sponsorship there?
[02:10] <Noskcaj> kotux, MOTU exists for specific ubuntu changes and packaging things that debian can't/won't
[02:11] <Noskcaj> kotux, put package in mentors with team as maintainer, you as uploader, then ask the team
[02:11] <kotux> alright.
[02:11] <asomething> you'd still upload to debian.mentors.net but ask for a sponsor on the python apps team's list
[02:11] <Noskcaj> +1
[02:12] <asomething> http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers
[02:12] <kotux> Awesome, thanks for all the help.
[02:12] <kotux> Just for show, here's my finished packgae.
[02:12] <kotux> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kotux/+junk/pylang-package/files
[02:13] <Noskcaj> tip: Get the packages a close to lintian clean as possible and with good copyright stuff before you upload
[02:13] <kotux> One more thing before I go: is an orig.tar.gz file the only thing they need to see from me?
[02:13] <kotux> Noskcaj, it's lintian error-free. ;-)
[02:14] <Noskcaj> even the --pedantic ones?
[02:14] <kotux> yes
[02:14] <Noskcaj> good work
[02:14] <Noskcaj> and no, you will use dput to upload everything
[02:16] <smartboyhw> Tip: Make sure you fill in the copyrigh properly
[02:17] <kotux> smartboyhw, it's all good.
[02:18] <porthose> kotux, make sure you have a working watch file also
[02:18] <kotux> what's that?
[02:18] <smartboyhw> Hmm, that's a problem if you don't know:P
[02:18] <smartboyhw> debian/watch
[02:19] <Noskcaj> a two line file that makes maintenance so much easier
[02:19] <smartboyhw> Used to track new releases from upstream
[02:19] <Unit193> uscan is pretty great.
[02:20] <kotux> ok, thanks.
[02:20] <porthose> kotux, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html
[15:24] <Rhonda> Laney: Where are though!
[17:25] <Laney> Rhonda: just arrived at hotel
[17:26] <Laney> (not staying at le camp)
[17:26] <Laney> will be along tomorrow morning
[17:36] <stgraber> Laney: so do you need me to bring you a power cable along in the end?
[17:37] <Laney> stgraber: my adaptor works at the hotel
[17:37] <Laney> also, steve said he was bringing spares so should be fine
[17:37] <stgraber> ok
[17:38] <Laney> further also, would have been a figure 8 which I don't think you said you have :P
[17:39] <stgraber> Laney: ah, if that's a c7/c8 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/IEC_60320_C7.svg/100px-IEC_60320_C7.svg.png) then your french adapter will work fine as it's not grounded
[17:40] <stgraber> ungrounded european/french plugs are compatible, the problem is the grounding pin which tends to differ quite widely between france, germany and switzerland (to take the 3 variants I'm aware of)
[17:42] <Laney> ah, yeah, there's no grounding pin on it
[17:44] <Laney> 303 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:44] <Laney> Need to get 418 MB of archives.
[17:45] <Laney> after a week - not enough - try harder :P
[17:45] <stgraber> ;)
[17:46]  * Laney sees some interesting stuff


[11:49] <ttoine> hello !
[12:31] <zequence> ttoine: How are you?
[12:50] <ttoine> zequence, fine, thanks. starting to learn ubuntu server, ssh, etc... because I need to go on a VPS for my clients
[12:50] <ttoine> and if ethernet works well, I can't setup the wifi at startup...
[12:51] <ttoine> command line and in terminal text edition are not my favourite way
[12:51] <ttoine> and you ? what's up ?
[12:55] <zequence> ttoine: I spent about a month setting up my own server first time :).
[12:55] <zequence> I'm hoping Scott could appear soon and give some feedback on the PR stuff, so we can move further with it
[12:57] <zequence> I'm doing more and more work with the terminal. And I usually find nano enough for most things. Haven't yet tried to learn vi, or others
[12:59] <ttoine> zequence, it should be great to go ahead with PR
[13:04] <zequence> pulseaudio gets borked sometimes on 13.04
[13:05] <zequence> Need to restart it sometimes in order to get some applications running with it
[19:19] <zequence> http://lwn.net/Articles/520704/
[23:45] <Len-nb> zequence, interesting. It would be nice to be able to run RT without patch.