[07:58] <Cntryboy> abattoir: earlier when I was trying to get this working, I typed make then got errors needed more files, finally I got all the files needed and when I do make I get a hugeeee list of errors now.. Do I need to sudio distclean and try over?
[07:58] <abattoir> Cntryboy: during ./configure or during make?
[07:59] <abattoir> basheer: you can manually d/l the deb, this one time and install it... ok?
[07:59] <basheer> ok
[07:59] <basheer> how?
[07:59] <abattoir> http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/automatix-_6.2-12-6.06dapper1_amd64.deb
[07:59] <abattoir> basheer: save it somewhere, eg. your home dir
[08:00] <basheer> The file http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/automatix-_6.2-12-6.06dapper1_amd64.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[08:00] <abattoir> basheer: just click on it
[08:00] <abattoir> dont open w/ Kate
[08:00] <Cntryboy> ./configure does nothing
[08:00] <Cntryboy> abattoir: durning make
[08:01] <abattoir> Cntryboy: there is not ./configure step in the installation procedure?(according to the readme/install file)?
[08:01] <basheer> run it as a shell?
[08:01] <Cntryboy> abattoir: honestly I don't see a readme file
[08:02] <Cntryboy> abattoir: I was told all I needed to do was make, then sudo make install
[08:02] <Cntryboy> and that was it
[08:02] <abattoir> basheer: after saving it, do 'sudo dpkg -i automatix-_6.2-12-6.06dapper1_amd64.deb'
[08:02] <abattoir> Cntryboy: hmmm... what exactly is the error during make?
[08:02] <Cntryboy> could I try to sudo distclean so it will get rid of all the files, and try again?
[08:03] <Cntryboy> mm it was this
[08:03] <blake_> abattoir, how do I change that setting to allow the transparency effect to work?
[08:03] <unix_infidel> Cntryboy: what app?
[08:03] <blake_> i changed it but it isnt working
[08:03] <abattoir> Cntryboy: sudo shouldnt be necessary, just make clean would do i guess
[08:04] <abattoir> blake_: try restarting KDE/X, see if you get an error about enabling 'Composite' when you start KDE
[08:04] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.ca/86539
[08:04] <basheer> can I make a gui for it?
[08:04] <Desh> WIll fglrx work if I am using 32bit Kubuntu with an AMD64?
[08:04] <blake_> Ok, brb
[08:04] <unix_infidel> Desh: sure...
[08:04] <abattoir> basheer: you want to 'make' a GUI?
[08:04] <Cntryboy> abattoir: that's the huge list thats totally differ, b4 I got all files needed
[08:05] <Desh> What is the terminal command to extract a tar.gz?
[08:05] <crimsun> tar xf foo.tar.gz
[08:05] <basheer> sure why not?
[08:05] <Cntryboy> tar zxvf (file)
[08:05] <Desh> Thanks.
[08:05] <abattoir> basheer: for what exactly?
[08:05] <basheer> cuz I am silly
[08:05] <vigilante> Hey, why can the Kmenu not be edited?  Nothing new I enter in manually stays
[08:06] <abattoir> basheer: no, for what application do you want to 'make' a gui?
[08:06] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: do you have zlib-devel
[08:06] <basheer> my games and stuff
[08:06] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: how can I find out
[08:06] <aegeanlinux> go into your package manager
[08:06] <aegeanlinux> add/remove programs
[08:07] <aegeanlinux> whatever kubuntu calls it
[08:07] <aegeanlinux> where you add deb files
[08:07] <Cntryboy> adept
[08:07] <Cntryboy> ok
[08:07] <Cntryboy> i used to know the search command in term but forgot
[08:07] <abattoir> basheer: i guess i dont understand you properly, however if you want to contribute to Kubuntu development, you can mail the Mailing-list or join #kubuntu-devel
[08:07] <aegeanlinux> thats the one
[08:07] <aegeanlinux> ctrl+f ???
[08:07] <Cntryboy> so why do you think I need this file
[08:08] <aegeanlinux> because it saus your missing zlib.h
[08:08] <basheer> thank you abattoir
[08:08] <abattoir> basheer: no problem
[08:08] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: so is there a zlib-devel?
[08:08] <basheer> and all who intended to help
[08:08] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: not that I c
[08:08] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: why do u think I need it though
[08:08] <aegeanlinux> what about zlib
[08:08] <dive-o> thanks everybody, I'm now quite happy with kubuntu :)
[08:09] <dive-o> just don't tell all my BSD nerd friends I said that
[08:09] <abattoir> dive-o: nice to hear :)
[08:09] <Cntryboy> I have 9 differ files with zlib in it
[08:09] <Cntryboy> closes to zlib is zlibc
[08:09] <aegeanlinux> pastebin line 158
[08:09] <aegeanlinux> FSMovie.cpp:26:18: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory
[08:09] <aegeanlinux> means your missing a -devel package that has zlib.h in it
[08:09] <Cntryboy> so do I need zlib.h?
[08:09] <aegeanlinux> yes
[08:10] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install zlib.h?
[08:10] <aegeanlinux>  /usr/include/zlib.h to be exact
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> i dont know the command you need
[08:10] <abattoir> Cntryboy: zlib1g-dev ?
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> could be
[08:10] <Cntryboy> he said zlib.h
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> I can't say for sure
[08:10] <Cntryboy> Hell I dunno
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> the package that has that file
[08:10] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:10] <aegeanlinux> I don't know I dont use kubuntu / ubuntu
[08:11] <abattoir> zlib.h is a file, which could be in the -dev package
[08:11] <denis_> hey - does anyone know how to get an onboard sound card in a compaq despro to work in kubuntu??
[08:11] <denis_> i cant get the sound to work and i'm a total newb to linux
[08:11] <Cntryboy> I have zlib1g and zlib1g-dev
[08:11] <Cntryboy> but no H's
[08:11] <aegeanlinux> what about zlib-dev
[08:11] <aegeanlinux> or zlib
[08:11] <abattoir> Cntryboy: are they installed?
[08:11] <Cntryboy> only zlib files installed are
[08:12] <Cntryboy> zlib1g, and zlib1g-dev
[08:12] <abattoir> denis_: stupid question maybe, but are you sure its not muted?
[08:12] <denis_> yeah dude
[08:12] <denis_> very sure.
[08:12] <aegeanlinux> OK, does anyone know how to search files that are in ubuntu's repo
[08:12] <aegeanlinux> on the net
[08:12] <denis_> its not detecting that there IS a sound card i dont think.
[08:12] <abattoir> aegeanlinux: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <aegeanlinux> ty
[08:13] <Cntryboy> abattoir: so which one do I need to install
[08:13] <Cntryboy> abattoir: but I have no h's libs listed though
[08:13] <abattoir> try zlib1g-dev
[08:13] <aegeanlinux> please wait Cntryboy
[08:13] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: okay
[08:13] <aegeanlinux> you need libdevel/zlib1g-dev
[08:13] <aegeanlinux> zlib1g-dev
[08:14] <aegeanlinux> then try to make again
[08:14] <Cntryboy> okay I have zlib1g-dev
[08:14] <Cntryboy> I don't have libdevel
[08:14] <vigilante> Does anyone else have problems editing the Kmenu?  (new custom entries won't stay for me)
[08:14] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install libdevel?
[08:14] <aegeanlinux> libdevel is the repo its in
[08:14] <aegeanlinux> no
[08:14] <abattoir> aegeanlinux: it in the libdevel section
[08:14] <aegeanlinux> just zlibg1
[08:15] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: what abattoir
[08:15] <aegeanlinux> said
[08:15] <aegeanlinux> zlib1g-dev
[08:15] <aegeanlinux> just apt-get that
[08:16] <aegeanlinux> and try to make again
[08:16] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: I have that file install
[08:16] <Cntryboy> installed
[08:16] <abattoir> Cntryboy: isnt this the old output?
[08:16] <Cntryboy> I searched for libdevel and have 7 but none installed
[08:16] <Cntryboy> abattoir?
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: also get qt-dev
[08:17] <abattoir> [11:34:13]  <Cntryboy> abattoir: that's the huge list thats totally differ, b4 I got all files needed
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: or also get qt-devel
[08:17] <Cntryboy> so just get qt-dev right
[08:17] <Cntryboy> let me try that
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> libqt3-headers
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> libqt3-headers
[08:17] <aegeanlinux> libqt3-headers
[08:17] <Cntryboy> okay so just get that one?
[08:18] <denis_> K GUYS quick question, what does the "gedit" command do?
[08:18] <Cntryboy> you name so many and then say another
[08:18] <aegeanlinux> yes, try that too
[08:18] <Cntryboy> which one do I need
[08:18] <aegeanlinux> libqt3-headers and zlib1g-dev
[08:18] <abattoir> denis_: it opens up a GTK text editor(in Ubuntu), similar to kate in Kubuntu
[08:18] <Cntryboy> I told you I have zlib1g-dev installed
[08:19] <denis_> ok
[08:19] <denis_> now
[08:19] <denis_> now i have kubuntu not ubuntu
[08:19] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: I also have libqt3-headers installed
[08:19] <abattoir> so substitute it w/ kate
[08:19] <denis_> what would i type as a command in kubuntu instead of "gedit"?
[08:19] <Cntryboy> so do you want me to get qt-dev or no
[08:19] <abattoir> denis_: kate
[08:19] <aegeanlinux> is it in apt?
[08:20] <aegeanlinux> then yes, get it if you can
[08:20] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: both are listed as installed in adept
[08:20] <Cntryboy> js
[08:20] <aegeanlinux> get it then
[08:20] <Cntryboy> qt-dev gives me error E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:20] <aegeanlinux> its just that I dont have kubuntu, so I can't say for sure what packages are what
[08:20] <Cntryboy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:21] <aegeanlinux> are you doing it with apt-get?
[08:21] <Cntryboy> yes
[08:21] <aegeanlinux> if so is adept open
[08:21] <chavo> Cntryboy, libqt3-mt-dev is the qt-development package
[08:21] <Cntryboy> ahh ok let me try now
[08:21] <aegeanlinux> if it is, close it, and try again
[08:21] <aegeanlinux> thanks chavo for that info
[08:22] <ColonelKernel> abattoir are you available?
[08:22] <Cntryboy> do what chavo said?
[08:22] <Cntryboy> qt-dev isn't in repos
[08:22] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes
[08:22] <aegeanlinux> yes
[08:22] <vigilante> Has anyone here had success adding new entries manually to the Kmenu?
[08:22] <aegeanlinux> what chavo said
[08:22] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: I tried those commands in terminal, no luck. Also, KNetworkManager was not installed
[08:22] <pulaski> hello
[08:23] <Cntryboy> I have 2.1KB dialup seems it may take awhile
[08:23] <Cntryboy> I hope I need this file
[08:23] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what exactly happened? any error messages?
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> umm
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> at first I got SET Failed on Device rausb0
[08:23] <aegeanlinux> hows the download going?
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> then i altered parameters to include channel 04
[08:24] <ColonelKernel> then no error message, but not connected
[08:24] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: how's the download
[08:24] <chavo> vigilante, works fine here I have heavily modified my menu
[08:24] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: was the name of the network shown in iwconfig?
[08:25] <pulaski> I'm thinking about replacing my ubuntu sarge with kubuntu becaues I prefer kde to gnome.  I'm also an spiring lamp developer.  Does kubuntu come with mysql 5 and php 5 as standard packages?
[08:25] <Cntryboy> going slow
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> yes
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> and the frequency
[08:25] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: how big is it?
[08:25] <Cntryboy> can't believe just to compile something I need so many packages, homesite for program never listed any of this
[08:25] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you tried 'sudo ifup rausb0' ?
[08:25] <chavo> pulaski, not installed by default, but just an apt-get away
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> y
[08:25] <Cntryboy> 6mb
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> yes
[08:25] <pulaski> good thank you
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> and it gave error unknown interface rausb0
[08:25] <aegeanlinux> so wasn't it is in kubuntu's repository
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> even though rausb0 is listed when I type iwconfig
[08:26] <pulaski> chavo
[08:26] <aegeanlinux> dang
[08:26] <Cntryboy> I wish kubuntu had an extra disc, with all files needed
[08:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: hmmm ok....
[08:26] <pulaski> thanks again
[08:26] <vigilante> chavo: what version of kde are you running?  how did you edit the kmenu?
[08:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you'd need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:26] <abattoir> write this down....
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> ok
[08:26] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: yes i said im downloading it
[08:26] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: You can, its called the kubuntu **DVD**
[08:26] <chavo> vigilante, 3.5.3 and I used kmenuedit
[08:26] <Cntryboy> if u was talking to me
[08:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: one sec
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> ready
[08:27] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: i never saw it on dl site
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: never mind
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> you have to fish for it Cntryboy
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> ill get the link
[08:27] <Cntryboy> dont worry about it
[08:27] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/6.06/release/
[08:28] <Cntryboy> i have 2.1KB dialup
[08:28] <Cntryboy> have to wait until I go to dad/moms
[08:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you should edit as root, so 'sudo kate'
[08:28] <aegeanlinux> i386 version is 3.6GB
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> kate?
[08:28] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: does it have the newest version of kde on it?
[08:28] <vigilante> chavo: Im using 3.5.2, whatever is latest for k6.06... maybe that is the problem, how did you udate to 3.5.3?
[08:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, that's the text editor, like 'notepad' but way more powerful
[08:28] <aegeanlinux> I really don't know
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> i see
[08:28] <ColonelKernel> then what do I change?
[08:28] <aegeanlinux> did 6.06 CD come with 3.5.3?
[08:29] <Kwukki> vigilante : wait...
[08:29] <Cntryboy> colonelkernel: kate is like gedit its a txt editor
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> Cause if it didn't nether does KDE
[08:29] <ColonelKernel> ah hah
[08:29] <chavo> vigilante, I never had a problem with the menu editor in KDE even in older versions
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> ** Cause if it didn't nether does DVD
[08:29] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: add 'auto rausb0' in one line
[08:29] <ColonelKernel> so I just do sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces
[08:29] <ColonelKernel> and add that line
[08:29] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux what command and ill tell u what I have
[08:29] <Kwukki> to update to 3.5.3 add this to your sources.list : "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main"
[08:29] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: in the next add 'iface rausb0 inet dhcp'
[08:29] <aegeanlinux> click K --> Run --> kcontrol (type it in)
[08:29] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: w/o the quotes ofcourse
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> of course
[08:30] <aegeanlinux> it says KDE Version :
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> that all?
[08:30] <aegeanlinux> and it will say something like 3.5.2
[08:30] <aegeanlinux> or 3.5.3 (latest)
[08:30] <Cntryboy> kwukki: how big is it
[08:30] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes.. save the file, try restarting... and then the commands i told you earlier
[08:30] <vigilante> chavo: yeah, kubuntu is the first distro that had this problem with kde for me
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: alrighty. and about KnetworkManager?
[08:31] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: dont warry about it
[08:31] <aegeanlinux> it is mostly bug fixes
[08:31] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: once you open the file, there'd be an example... so should be easy to follow
[08:31] <vigilante> Kwukki: any idea why my kmenu won't edit?
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> good :D
[08:31] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i'd expect that to work too
[08:31] <Cntryboy> I have 3.5.2
[08:31] <Kwukki> vigilante : No
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> ahh but you see, it wasn't installed
[08:31] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: there'd be an entry for 'lo'
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> when I looked before...
[08:31] <ColonelKernel> 'lo'?
[08:31] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: Thats good enough
[08:31] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: just follow the syntax, but replace 'loopback' w/ 'dhcp'
[08:31] <vigilante> Cntryboy: are you able to edit your kmenu to add new entries manually?
[08:32] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: I wouldn't wary about updating
[08:32] <ColonelKernel> hmmkay.
[08:32] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: Not if your on dialup
[08:32] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yeah, thats the loopback interface, you dont need it, just was giving an eg.
[08:32] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: grr slow dl dude
[08:32] <ColonelKernel> so I don't need KNetworkManager? because that's not installed
[08:32] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: Me can no help
[08:33] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: well, if it is in the CD, you should be able to get it w/ sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[08:33] <ColonelKernel> i need to insert the cd though?
[08:33] <abattoir> if it isnt, you'd need a network connection to get it
[08:33] <Cntryboy> afk until I roll this J
[08:33] <ColonelKernel> ah
[08:33] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:33] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: if it is in the cd, yes
[08:33] <Cntryboy> stressed
[08:33] <ColonelKernel> alright.  thank you abattoir, hopefully i'll be back in 10 running Kubuntu :D
[08:33] <abattoir> hopefully :)
[08:34] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: me can no help?
[08:34] <Cntryboy> lost me
[08:34] <Cntryboy> brb
[08:34] <aegeanlinux> Cntryboy: I can't help that it's a slow download
[08:35] <aegeanlinux> I can't wait for KDE 4
[08:35] <aegeanlinux> It's going to be SOOOOOOOOOOOO good.
[08:36] <basheer> when is it coming out?
[08:36] <Cntryboy> I can't wait to be a linux gawd
[08:36] <abattoir> basheer: Q1 next year
[08:36] <Cntryboy> It's going to be SOOOOOOOOOOOO good.
[08:36] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:36] <Cntryboy> brb J
[08:36] <basheer> Q1?
[08:37] <abattoir> yeah, first quarter, Jan-Mar anytime
[08:37] <basheer> oh ok
[08:37] <vigilante> Arrgh, for some reason kubuntu is using 100% cpu all of a sudden, I open ksysguard and nothing is using more than 10%, how do I find the crazy process?
[08:37] <aegeanlinux> goto konsole
[08:37] <aegeanlinux> type 'top'
[08:37] <aegeanlinux> (without '''s )
[08:38] <ShuT-> wtf
[08:38] <ShuT-> err
[08:38] <ShuT-> i mean hi
[08:38] <aegeanlinux> Hi ShuT-
[08:39] <basheer> is the smp kernel for kubuntu 64 broken?
[08:39] <basheer> or do you not need it?
[08:39] <vigilante> actually, it looks like kfmclient, there are about 10 instances of it running, and I can't kill them all, they just keep respawning
[08:39] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: 48% lol
[08:40] <vigilante> I think maybe konversation is spawning them, Im gonna try to close every kde program and restart kde
[08:40] <juke_> i need help. i have acer aspire 3004 laptop. where i can get video card drivers??  :P
[08:44] <juke_> euphoria etc
[08:44] <Cntryboy> aegeanlinux: ever seen why can't I be you on mtv
[08:44] <Cntryboy> saw rather
[08:44] <aegeanlinux> no
[08:44] <juke_> where i can get that xorg package?
[08:44] <aegeanlinux> you want to be me?
[08:44] <abattoir> juke_: i dont know if they are supposed to work w/ integrated chips :P anyways...
[08:45] <abattoir> juke_: check if you have xserver-xorg-drivers-sis installed
[08:45] <juke_> oh..really.. that explain eveything :P
[08:45] <abattoir> *driver-sis
[08:45] <juke_> apt-get?
[08:46] <abattoir> juke_: adept
[08:46] <juke_> ok..wait a minute :P
[08:48] <juke_> it doesn't find any xserver-xorg-drivers-sis packages :P
[08:48] <abattoir> juke_: i corrected myself to *driver-sis
[08:49] <juke_> ok
[08:49] <juke_> i am stupido :P
[08:49] <abattoir> just type sis, and look at the end of the list
[08:49] <juke_> it is installed :P
[08:50] <abattoir> juke_: ok, then open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:50] <juke_> sis display driver.. etc..
[08:50] <abattoir> juke_: see if the 'sis' driver is being loaded
[08:50] <juke_> ok
[08:50] <juke_> wait a minute
[08:50] <abattoir> if it is, then you are using the driver
[08:51] <kyle_> hey, I have an MP3 player. but lnux won't detect it? how come?
[08:51] <juke_> where is that?? :P
[08:52] <abattoir> juke_: its a file... /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:52] <Cntryboy> kyle_: same boat as you, decided to try to compile
[08:52] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:52] <juke_> it open now by nano :P
[08:52] <abattoir> juke_: check if the sis drivers are loaded
[08:53] <kyle_> Cntryboy: well whta help are you :P it even says on my book it supports linux, but the cd is lost somewhere haha
[08:53] <juke_> where that suppose to be.. ?? :P
[08:53] <Cntryboy> kyle_ : didn't you talk to me last nighta bout compiling some source code
[08:54] <kyle_> Cntryboy: nope, haven't been on irc in some time, :P and i know how to compile source code, thanks :)
[08:54] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: damn.
[08:54] <juke_> abattoir: where the sis line is?? :P
[08:54] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what happens?
[08:55] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: same basic thing, although the ifup command yielded Device already configured
[08:55] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: the text edit worked out fine thought
[08:56] <abattoir> juke_: in the 'Device' section
[08:56] <Cntryboy> kyle_: don't get offensive lol, just wondering.. same id.
[08:56] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i have run out of ideas, it should really work by now...
[08:56] <ColonelKernel> abattoir:i know
[08:56] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: have I done anything wrong? i'll review...
[08:57] <juke_> abattoir: generic video card and vesa..
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i did sudo iwconfig rausb0 essid ChellGate channel 04 key ***************
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> but no connection
[08:57] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you obviously entered the key by text right ;) ?
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> lol
[08:57] <kyle_> Cntryboy: haha i'm not getting offencive, i'm just kidding. for some reason it works now?  I'm connecting to my home LAN. don't know any other keys :(
[09:00] <juke_> if i change it sis should i restart x?
[09:00] <ColonelKernel> any settings I should change on the host though?
[09:01] <abattoir> juke_: yes
[09:01] <juke_> ok..
[09:01] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: i'm not familiar w/ router config. but if it is WEP, and your card is recognised, i'd expect it to work by now
[09:02] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: so would I.  Honestly, this is the 6th distro i've tried, and the furthest i've gotten... Ubuntu no luck, rest didn't even boot
[09:02] <juke_> abattoir: how do i know does it work?? :P
[09:02] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: i don't wanna stay with Window$
[09:03] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: try making the network an open one...
[09:03] <juke_> abattoir?
[09:03] <abattoir> juke_: try the screensavers you mentioned :P
[09:03] <juke_> ok
[09:03] <vigilante> ColonelKernel: have you tried PCLinuxOS, or Mandriva One?
[09:03] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: ok i'll try that, but won't last, as in an area where security is needed
[09:03] <vigilante> or Mepis
[09:04] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, i just meant it as a temporary test
[09:04] <ColonelKernel> alright
[09:04] <ColonelKernel> i'll be back...
[09:04] <ColonelKernel> you'll be here?
[09:04] <abattoir> hopefully, its midday, and i havent slept the whole night ;)
[09:04] <ColonelKernel> i'll hurry :D
[09:04] <abattoir> i cant sleep anymore
[09:05] <juke_> abattoir: euphoria doesn't work but the others works fine.. i try to install neverball :P
[09:06] <abattoir> juke_: ok :)
[09:07] <juke_> abattoir: no it doesn't work :(
[09:08] <juke_> i change it sis.. should i test the dpkg.... command??
[09:08] <abattoir> juke_: well, i too have the same card... tbh, it is sh*t
[09:08] <abattoir> juke_: yes, you can :)
[09:09] <patrick_36p> hey
[09:09] <patrick_36p> anyone here got half-life running under dapper?
[09:10] <juke_> abattoir: enter the amount of memory?????
[09:10] <juke_> 128M
[09:10] <abattoir> juke_: it asks you?
[09:10] <juke_> abattoir: in kb
[09:10] <juke_> yes
[09:11] <abattoir> oh, ok
[09:11] <juke_> enter the amount of memory to be used by your video card :P
[09:11] <juke_> etc
[09:11] <abattoir> juke_: i guess that'd depend on your bios settings too
[09:12] <juke_> ??
[09:12] <juke_> how that can be possible?
[09:12] <abattoir> this card uses 'shared' memory, from the ram, so you can specify how much it uses in the bios
[09:13] <juke_> how much should i type now.. i check the bios after this :P
[09:13] <abattoir> juke_: enter 128MB
[09:13] <juke_> ok
[09:13] <wolfmanz> Is it hard to get wine working under Kubuntu?
[09:13] <juke_> it says in kb?
[09:14] <juke_> should i type 128 000
[09:14] <abattoir> wolfmanz: nope...
[09:14] <abattoir> juke_: yes, pls. try
[09:14] <abattoir> wolfmanz: install the 'wine' package
[09:14] <abattoir> !info wine
[09:14] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[09:15] <abattoir> wolfmanz: check if you have universe repository enabled first, though
[09:15] <wolfmanz> how do i get that i tried looking for wine under Adept and nothing come up
[09:15] <wolfmanz> lol okm
[09:15] <abattoir> !universe
[09:15] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:15] <juke_> abattoir it says: use kernel framebuffer device interface???
[09:15] <abattoir> wolfmanz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:16] <abattoir> juke_: put yes :P
[09:16] <juke_> please select your keyboard layput?? fin (finland)
[09:16] <juke_> ?
[09:17] <gready> hello I need help installing a remote printer please
[09:17] <juke_> default is us
[09:17] <abattoir> juke_: if its available, please choose that
[09:18] <juke_> abattoir: pleae select your keyboard variant???
[09:18] <abattoir> juke_: ugh, what options are available..
[09:18] <Cntryboy> does anyone know how to start f4l flash proggy ?
[09:19] <abattoir> i'm sure you'd be able to choose one relevant
[09:19] <juke_> nothing.. it is text line.. no options?? :P
[09:19] <corin> abattoir: this is colonel kernel
[09:19] <abattoir> corin: works?
[09:19] <corin> abattoir: with no enctyption
[09:19] <corin> yes
[09:19] <corin> encryption*
[09:19] <corin> so.  why would that be ?
[09:19] <abattoir> juke_: then just press enter, enter nothing
[09:20] <gready> hello I need help installing a remote printer please if you can help open a private chat
[09:20] <juke_> ok
[09:20] <abattoir> corin: i guess you had WPA, there are some problems w/ that in Kubuntu
[09:20] <corin> hmm.
[09:20] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[09:20] <corin> abattoir: I switched it to WEP but that didn't work either.
[09:20] <abattoir> corin: you can try messing around w/ the router to see which other type works
[09:20] <corin> abattoir: any idea why that would be?
[09:20] <abattoir> since its your own router :P
[09:21] <juke_> abattoir: mouse.. is it ImPS/2 or explorerPS/2??
[09:21] <abattoir> corin:  as i said some network types dont work very well
[09:21] <corin> abattoir: ya think I was just typing the key wrong? WEP is fairly standard I thought
[09:21] <gready> hello I need help installing a remote printer please
[09:21] <abattoir> juke_: you should know :)
[09:21] <abattoir> corin: yes, that's possible, i thought you'd have thought of that though :)
[09:22] <corin> abattoir: i did, but I checked it 5 times...
[09:22] <corin> abattoir: now that i'm connected, why doesn't apt-get install knetworkmanager work?
[09:22] <corin> still can't ifnd package
[09:22] <abattoir> !info knetworkmanager
[09:22] <gready> is it possible to enable the roottttttt account so I can login to kde as root
[09:22] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[09:23] <corin> how do I install it though?
[09:23] <abattoir> corin: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:23] <corin> abattoir: ah. thanks...
[09:23] <abattoir> even though it is in main, it is useful enabling the other repos
[09:23] <corin> hmmkay
[09:23] <abattoir> you'd get a fair idea of what to do
[09:24] <gready> is it possible to enable the root account so I can login to kde as root
[09:24] <aegeanlinux> yes
[09:24] <corin> ok.
[09:24] <Cntryboy> does anyone know how to start f4l flash proggy ?
[09:24] <gready> how
[09:24] <aegeanlinux> you hace to edit the kdm configuration
[09:24] <aegeanlinux> *have
[09:24] <abattoir> corin: if you want, you can remove the cd rom source, and add a web-based 'main' source
[09:24] <corin> ahh that would be nice
[09:24] <corin> how?
[09:24] <abattoir> corin: as i said, just follow the link i gave :)
[09:24] <abattoir> !repos
[09:24] <corin> abattoir :D.
[09:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:24] <gready> how
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> click K --> run --> kcontrol
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> then search for KDM
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> click kdm in keywords
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> then click login manager
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> goto users
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> press administrator mode
[09:25] <aegeanlinux> type root password
[09:26] <aegeanlinux> click users again
[09:26] <aegeanlinux> and wala
[09:26] <aegeanlinux> change below to say -
[09:26] <aegeanlinux> * 0
[09:28] <gready> thank you I try now
[09:28] <corin> abattoir: thanks a lot man.  Soon I'll speak to you in Francais... Just a guess there :D
[09:28] <wolfmanz> OK i got the universe ones enabled and all that yet when i type wine into adept i'm not getting anything found
[09:29] <abattoir> corin: lol, the only thing french about me is the nick...
[09:29] <abattoir> if you want to speak french...
[09:29] <abattoir> !fr
[09:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:29] <abattoir> =P
[09:29] <corin> abattoir: LOL
[09:29] <corin> abattoir: thought ur english was suspiciously good
[09:29] <corin> !fr
[09:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:29] <corin> hmmm
[09:30] <aegeanlinux> SELECT Girls FROM World ORDER BY Cup_Size AND Age WHERE Age > 18 AND Age < 30
[09:30] <ShuT-> lol aegeanlinux
[09:30] <corin> abattoir: i'm not having luck using adept.  I can't seem to enable the universe/multiverse thingy
[09:30] <gready> still can't login as root
[09:31] <aegeanlinux> my CPU's at 100%
[09:31] <abattoir> corin: have you opened it?
[09:31] <corin> yessur
[09:31] <aegeanlinux> to many names across my konsole ...
[09:31] <corin> yessir*
[09:31] <abattoir> corin: gone to manage repositories?
[09:31] <corin> yep
[09:31] <corin> enabled 2 of them
[09:31] <corin> deb and deb scr
[09:31] <corin> src*
[09:32] <gready> when I try it says 'root logins not allowed'
[09:32] <abattoir> ok, just click in the components section of the 'deb' line
[09:32] <wolfmanz> ok never mind i found out what was wrong
[09:32] <corin> yes
[09:32] <juke_> abattoir: it won't work.. i did everthing like you said.. resolution is correct now (1280x800)..
[09:32] <abattoir> corin: double click sorry
[09:33] <abattoir> juke_: as i said, it is not a great graphics card... i wouldnt expect hi-fi stuff to work on it
[09:33] <abattoir> corin: you get an editable text field?
[09:33] <corin> yes
[09:33] <corin> i typed
[09:33] <abattoir> corin: main should be in it already
[09:33] <corin> universe and multiverse
[09:33] <corin> yes main was there, i deleted it
[09:33] <corin> bad?
[09:33] <abattoir> corin: make sure the line has 'main restricted universe multiverse'
[09:33] <corin> ok
[09:34] <corin> done
[09:34] <abattoir> corin: click Apply->Close and Fetch updates(on top)
[09:34] <corin> aha
[09:34] <corin> it worked
[09:35] <abattoir> corin: :)
[09:35] <corin> abattoir: wow.  thanks a lot.  I gotta go to sleep, but man, I owe you one
[09:35] <abattoir> corin: lol, bye :)
[09:35] <corin> cya thanks :D
[09:36] <juke_> abattoir: how did you get it work?? :P
[09:36] <gready> how do I enable root logins?
[09:37] <abattoir> juke_: get what to work?
[09:37] <abattoir> juke_: i guess the driver works for you as well... just dont expect it to rival stuff done by nvidia or ati cards, that's all :)
[09:37] <juke_> did you said that you have same video card etc??
[09:37] <abattoir> yes, i do
[09:38] <juke_> i understant it.. but i want to play some 3d games :P
[09:38] <abattoir> juke_: i honestly suspect if it is possible...
[09:39] <juke_> max video memory in bios was 64M ;O
[09:39] <juke_> :P
[09:39] <abattoir> juke_: well, you can change it... to 128
[09:39] <abattoir> if you have 512 or more MBs of ram
[09:39] <juke_> i type it 64M and i reconfigured xserver-xorg..
[09:39] <juke_> ok
[09:39] <abattoir> i have to go now...
[09:40] <wolfmanz> Ok nesxt question i installed wine and now cant find it where did adept put wine?
[09:40] <abattoir> juke_: i think you have got the driver though
[09:40] <juke_> tanx anyway..
[09:40] <abattoir> wolfmanz: try executing it through the commandline... it will set itself first, and iirc, ask you some questions
[09:41] <abattoir> !wine
[09:41] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:41] <aegeanlinux> !crossover office
[09:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about crossover office - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:41] <abattoir> wolfmanz: ^^^^ should be helpful... i have to go now... bye
[09:42] <gready> how do I enable root logins?
[09:44] <Lynoure> gready: by setting a password to root, if you must. but you can get a root console through sudo already.
[09:44] <TheMoebius> hey can somebody help me with figuring out why my kdm won't start? I've posted in the forums and no one has answered and googled, but can't find anything about this...
[09:46] <aegeanlinux> brb
[09:46] <aegeanlinux> greedy hold on 30 mins please
[09:46] <aegeanlinux> I know how
[09:47] <gready> It still says 'root logins are not allowed
[09:47] <gready> ok I be here waiting
[09:51] <ColonelKernel> abattoir?
[09:51] <ColonelKernel> anybody know why I don't have any sound?
[09:52] <ColonelKernel> help!
[09:53] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: you here man? need help!
[09:57] <ColonelKernel> sumtn?
[09:57] <flaccid> my new kubuntu server install is freezing up going real slow again. wtf could be the problem. cpu usage is vlow
[09:57] <flaccid> it must be hardware
[09:57] <flaccid> hmm maybe its cooling
[09:57] <ColonelKernel> anybody???
[09:58] <ColonelKernel> i have no sound *whimper*
[09:58] <flaccid> is there any way to get cpu temp
[09:58] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: need more details.
[09:58] <ColonelKernel> i simply have absolutely no sound
[09:58] <ColonelKernel> hey sumtn
[09:58] <Sumtn> hey
[09:58] <ColonelKernel> crimsun: can you help?
[09:58] <gready> what sound card do you have
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> i believe it's called.... Synaptic maybe?
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> where do I check
[09:59] <crimsun> how old is the computer?
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> almost shining
[09:59] <crimsun> lspci -v |grep -i audio
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> 3ghz pentium4 1gb ram
[09:59] <flaccid> frig cpu fan is not going!!!!!!!!!
[09:59] <gready> cooking
[09:59] <ColonelKernel> Silicon Integraged Systems Sound contoller
[10:00] <Sumtn> he doesnt have a usb headset so what would he have to type in? example /dev/dsp1
[10:00] <ColonelKernel> normally isn't sound set up during the installation?
[10:00] <Sumtn> cause he can fix but sence he dont have a usb headset  we dont know what to type in
[10:00] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''
[10:00] <ColonelKernel> sumtn its not just TS
[10:01] <ColonelKernel> k wait
[10:01] <Sumtn> o it servything
[10:01] <Sumtn> u didnt ell me that
[10:01] <dive-o> what the... how am I swapping when I've got so little stuff running
[10:01] <dive-o> I can tune that with /proc/sys/swappiness or something, right?
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Password:
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Major opcode:  145
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Failed to open device
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Major opcode:  145
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:02] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: uh, what does that have to do with the command I gave you?
[10:02] <ColonelKernel>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Failed to open device
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:02] <ColonelKernel> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[10:02] <fek> moin
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:03] <crimsun> please do not flood here.
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> kded: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> whoops
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> thats wrong
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> i don't know how to pastebin evidently
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> nothing :(
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> it said not a directory on all 3 thingys
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> i apologize
[10:03] <ColonelKernel> accident
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> was the command you told me to do 3 commands?
[10:04] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: copy and paste it into a Konsole
[10:04] <crimsun> I gave you command verbatim
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> alright
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> ok
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> how do I pastebin?
[10:04] <dive-o> is it possible to reclaim swap in linux? I've never had to try before
[10:04] <Sumtn> you have to use mouse
[10:04] <ColonelKernel> i got results
[10:04] <Sumtn> not ctrl c
[10:05] <aegeanlinux> www.pastebin.com ???
[10:05] <ColonelKernel> i konw
[10:05] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: the pastebin site is in the topic.
[10:05] <dive-o> but kubuntu's default of swappiness 60 is way too silly for a machine with 2GB ram...
[10:05] <Sumtn> then paste with mouse
[10:06] <ColonelKernel> i went to website, pasted in, not doing anything
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> why can't I just paste normally?
[10:07] <vigilante> Arrgh, when I click on any link in konversation (web link) kde goes crazy, spawns many kfmclients and goes to 100% cpu usage :( , whats up with this?
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> i don't understand
[10:07] <dive-o> nm, swapoff worked
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> drimsun?
[10:07] <ColonelKernel> crimsun*
[10:08] <aegeanlinux> because pasting here is anoying
[10:08] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: because that's a lot of info to flood into this channel, and we don't like it.
[10:08] <ColonelKernel> ok. i submitted to pastebin but nothing is happening
[10:08] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: what URL/
[10:08] <ColonelKernel> what?
[10:09] <ColonelKernel> nothing happened after I pasted into form and clicked send
[10:09] <flaccid> ok i have a huge problem. never seen this before. when kubuntu inits, it turns off the cpu pan!!! please help!
[10:10] <flaccid> this is crazy
[10:10] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: well did you actually paste anything into the text entry box?
[10:10] <ColonelKernel> yes
[10:10] <ColonelKernel> about 2 paragraphs worth
[10:10] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: which site?
[10:10] <ColonelKernel> pastebin.com
[10:11] <ColonelKernel> alternates?
[10:12] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: how do you know sound does not work? tried playing mp3s in amarok?
[10:13] <gready> gready still waiting
[10:13] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: no, but I ran an app,,Teamspeak, and no sound, plus no sound at login
[10:13] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: wouldn't I have heard something so far?
[10:13] <flaccid> maybe this is my issue https://launchpad.net/distros/debian/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/7249
[10:14] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: sec, I'm checknig
[10:14] <crimsun> -ing
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> affirmative
[10:14] <abattoir> no, was just curious, because many people dont realise amarok doesnt play mp3s out of the box.. think it is a sound problem.
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> i knew that much
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> :D
[10:14] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88777 that maybe?
[10:15] <nrdb> I know this is off topic but I am looking for an undelete program for windows XP that doesn't need installing to work can someone help or tell me a better place to ask.
[10:15] <flaccid> nrdb: easy recovery professional
[10:15] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: SiS should work out of the box... I have a SiS card
[10:15] <ColonelKernel> hmnmm
[10:15] <flaccid> i enabled plug n play os in bios and this may have fixed the fan problem. it hasnt turned off on this boot
[10:16] <nrdb> flaccid: thanks
[10:16] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: open kmix
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, i submitted, now what do I paste into IRC?
[10:16] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: the url mentioned
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> ahmm.
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17908
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> maybe?
[10:17] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what is the current mixer in kmix ?
[10:17] <ColonelKernel> hmmm. lemme check
[10:17] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: also make sure it is not muted :P
[10:17] <ColonelKernel> SiS SI7012
[10:17] <ColonelKernel> no tmuted :D
[10:17] <basheer> does anyone know how to make a webcam work in kubuntu?
[10:17] <ColonelKernel> lighted=unmuted yes?
[10:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok, i have the same sound card, works out of the box...
[10:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes
[10:18] <ColonelKernel> wow.
[10:18] <ColonelKernel> weird
[10:18] <flaccid> basheer: you could use msn webcam with kopete
[10:18] <abattoir> make sure everything is lighted...
[10:18] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: and is max
[10:18] <vigilante> Arrgh, just upgraded to kde 3.5.3, I am still having the problem of not being able to save new kmenu entries, can someone please help?
[10:18] <ColonelKernel> under switches??
[10:18] <abattoir> nope output
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> roger.
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> how should I test?
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> what generates sound in Kubuntu?
[10:19] <abattoir> ok, open amarok
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> opened
[10:19] <abattoir> amarok, is *the* best music player on the planet... :P
[10:19] <abattoir> ok, one sec
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.
[10:19] <ColonelKernel> ERROR :D
[10:20] <gready> is it possible to enable the root account so I can login to kde as root
[10:20] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: can you paste that erro?
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> i dide
[10:20] <abattoir> *error. put it on pastebin, if it is long
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> its not
[10:20] <ColonelKernel> just xine was unab....
[10:21] <abattoir> oh, that's all ?
[10:21] <ColonelKernel> yessir
[10:21] <basheer> is there something to install to make it work?
[10:21] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: both devices are recognised. Now please pastebin ``amixer''
[10:22] <vigilante> can I run kmenu editor from command line?  if so whats the command?
[10:22] <abattoir> vigilante: kmenuedit
[10:23] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17909
[10:23] <ColonelKernel> there we go
[10:23] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: after you have done what crimsun said, try playing an ogg file from /usr/share/sounds in  amarok
[10:24] <gready> is it possible to enable the roottttttt account so I can login to kde as root
[10:24] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[10:24] <ColonelKernel> in the Konsole?
[10:25] <ColonelKernel> ok done
[10:25] <crimsun> now, amixer set 'Master' 80%
[10:25] <crimsun> then, aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav
[10:25] <ColonelKernel> done
[10:26] <ColonelKernel> error
[10:27] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17910
[10:27] <crimsun> ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[10:28] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17911
[10:28] <vigilante> abattoir: does anyone else have a problem clicking on html links in konversation?
[10:28] <ColonelKernel> nope
[10:28] <bady> hey guys can someone tell me how I detach a screen again?
[10:29] <vigilante> Kubuntu is seeming buggy as time goes on, like less effort is spent on it than regular ubuntu
[10:29] <crimsun> ^a^d
[10:29] <gready> no
[10:29] <crimsun> bady: ^^
[10:30] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: killall artsd
[10:30] <bady> thx
[10:30] <vigilante> everytime I click on a link in konversation, kfmclient goes crazy
[10:30] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, that returned nothing
[10:30] <ColonelKernel> no output
[10:30] <crimsun> good
[10:30] <ColonelKernel> hmm
[10:30] <ColonelKernel> now what?
[10:31] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: use the lsof command again to check you don't have artsd processes
[10:31] <ColonelKernel> can  I paste here?
[10:31] <ColonelKernel> short
[10:31] <crimsun> no
[10:31] <ColonelKernel> k
[10:32] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17912
[10:32] <ColonelKernel> much less
[10:32] <crimsun> ok, good.
[10:32] <crimsun> now try the aplay
[10:33] <basheer> hello?
[10:33] <basheer> anyone out there?
[10:33] <qbit> vigilante: if you're using Firefox browser go to settings, configure, behavior, and click check box "use custom browser" and put firefox -remote 'openURL(%u,new-tab)' in the box
[10:33] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17913
[10:34] <ColonelKernel> i didn't actually hear anything though
[10:34] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: did it return to a prompt?
[10:34] <qbit> vigilante: in the Konversation settings
[10:34] <ColonelKernel> yes
[10:34] <ColonelKernel> i believe
[10:34] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: good, now, amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[10:34] <ColonelKernel> roger.
[10:35] <ColonelKernel> need the pastebin or not
[10:35] <crimsun> then try the aplay again
[10:35] <crimsun> no
[10:35] <ColonelKernel> same message
[10:35] <ColonelKernel> no sound...
[10:37] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, still there?
[10:37] <crimsun> amixer set '3D Control Sigmatel - Depth' off && amixer set 'Rear Jack' 'Front Output'
[10:37] <ColonelKernel> ah
[10:37] <ColonelKernel> done
[10:37] <ColonelKernel> pastebin?
[10:38] <crimsun> no, try aplay
[10:38] <ColonelKernel> negative for sound :(
[10:38] <flaccid> rightio i still have my problem. i will be back later to pick somones brains on ACPI
[10:38] <crimsun> ok, install aumix and adjust the volumes
[10:38] <crimsun> I need to return to work
[10:38] <ColonelKernel> will that fix it?
[10:38] <Pupeno_> My wireless access point offers the following encryption mechanisms 802.1x, WPA, WPA-PSK (default), WPA2 and WPA2-PSK. Which one should I use (all the clients are Kubuntus) ?
[10:39] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: it presents an easier interface to you and fiddles more knobs in the background
[10:39] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: and thus is more likely to fix stuff
[10:39] <ColonelKernel> ahh
[10:39] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: also, make sure you're running 2.6.15-26.44
[10:39] <ColonelKernel> under adept install or google?
[10:40] <crimsun> adept will show it if you have universe enabled
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> 2.6.15 explain? Kernel version/
[10:40] <gafty> hello i have a dwl-650g wireless pcmcia card. What module should I use?
[10:40] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: uname -r
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> what?
[10:40] <crimsun> type that.
[10:40] <crimsun> tell me the output .
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> ah
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> 2.6.15-23-386
[10:40] <crimsun> too old
[10:40] <crimsun> update && dist-upgrade
[10:41] <ColonelKernel> damn
[10:41] <ColonelKernel> in the Konsole that didnt work
[10:41] <crimsun> what didn't work?
[10:41] <ColonelKernel> was update... a command?
[10:42] <aegeanlinux> I thought this was the __kubuntu__ channel ???
[10:42] <ColonelKernel> it is
[10:42] <aegeanlinux> isn't it more like apt_get
[10:42] <aegeanlinux> or ss like that
[10:43] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, can you explain how to update-dist or w/e
[10:43] <crimsun> just ``sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade''
[10:43] <ColonelKernel> ah thanks
[10:44] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1791
[10:44] <ColonelKernel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17914
[10:45] <crimsun> close Adept first.
[10:45] <Nickay> Hi i have install kubuntu but i have problem with my sceen resolution. How can configure it from console?
[10:45] <ColonelKernel> i did i thought
[10:45] <ColonelKernel> how can I force quit it
[10:45] <crimsun> sudo pkill adept
[10:45] <flaccid> ok i'm back. who knows about acpi in ubuntu. i have an irq setting for acpi in bios. when linux boots it turns off the cpu fan
[10:46] <ColonelKernel> it's updating now
[10:48] <ColonelKernel> will this require a restart?
[10:48] <Nickay> Hi i have install kubuntu but i have problem with my sceen resolution. How can configure it from console?Thanks
[10:48] <ColonelKernel> nm
[10:48] <ColonelKernel> it's done crimsun
[10:49] <flaccid> or maybe i can ask, how do i turn off acpi on boot?
[10:49] <ColonelKernel> AUMix installed
[10:49] <gready> is it possible to enable the root account so I can login to kde as root
[10:50] <ColonelKernel> crimsum, ajusted all volumes up, now trying aplay again or w/e
[10:52] <Lynoure> gready: if you add a question mark to your questions, more people will notice them.
[10:52] <Lynoure> ...lunch.
[10:52] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: yes, you'll need to reboot.
[10:52] <ColonelKernel> affirmative, be right back
[10:52] <crimsun> (to use the new kernel)
[10:52] <gready> ok
[10:52] <gready> is it possible to enable the root account so I can login to kde as root?
[10:52] <crimsun> sure
[10:52] <crimsun> !root > gready
[10:52] <flaccid> can someone help me to implement this workaround<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:54] <gready> whats that
[10:55] <jaro> Good Morning
[10:55] <corin> crimsum, this is ColonelKernel
[10:56] <corin> tried aplay, no sound still
[10:56] <crimsun> corin: did you use aumix to adjust the volumes?
[10:56] <corin> yues
[10:56] <corin> yes
[10:56] <corin> all maxed
[10:57] <crimsun> they shouldn't all be maxed
[10:57] <corin> *nearly maxed
[10:57] <crimsun> IEC958* should be off/muted
[10:57] <corin> i don't even seee that one
[10:57] <crimsun> no big deal.
[10:57] <corin> ok
[10:58] <crimsun> close aumix, and type: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[10:58] <crimsun> then try aplay.
[10:58] <crimsun> if that doesn't work, I'll need to see your ac97 register dump in /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0+regs
[10:59] <corin> that didnt work
[11:00] <corin> what should I use to open that file?
[11:00] <crimsun> cat
[11:00] <crimsun> I have to leave very soon
[11:00] <corin> damn
[11:00] <corin> k got the dump
[11:00] <jaro> Who Is willing to help me get this LCD-Screen-Bug with Acer Aspire 1350 sorted ??
[11:01] <corin> very close
[11:01] <jaro> Until now its a never ending story...
[11:01] <crimsun> corin: please file a bug, attach (don't inline) that dump
[11:01] <corin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17915
[11:01] <corin> i don't really know how to file a bug :(
[11:01] <corin> u can't look at it?
[11:02] <crimsun> no, I'm in a phone conf right now
[11:02] <corin> ok
[11:02] <osh_> corin: https://launchpad.net <- there you can file a bug. It's quite easy.
[11:02] <crimsun> please file the bug, and I'll look at it
[11:02] <corin> alrighty thanks
[11:02] <crimsun> make sure you file it against linux-source-2.6.15
[11:02] <corin> ok
[11:03] <corin> where do I click to file, osh_?
[11:05] <osh_> corin: first you create an account (top right). then do a search for kernel-source and the link "The linux kernel" should show up. I believe you file your bug there.
[11:05] <corin> ok
[11:06] <osh_> corin: yep. on the left side there's a link saying "Bugs".
[11:07] <corin> osh, still can't find where to file. i'm logged in
[11:08] <osh_> corin: https://launchpad.net/products/linux
[11:08] <corin> got it nm
[11:10] <corin> ok i'm leaving
[11:11] <corin> Bug Reported
[11:11] <corin> Peace
[11:11] <osh_> corin: thanks. =)
[11:12] <corin> np
[11:12] <abattoir> corin, sorry, just catching up, what happened?
[11:12] <corin> i submitted but report
[11:12] <corin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17915
[11:13] <corin> crimsum walked me thorough a loong process
[11:13] <corin> bug*
[11:13] <corin> not but :D
[11:13] <abattoir> oh...
[11:14] <corin> anything you can do?
[11:14] <corin> if not, i'm gonna zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[11:14] <corin> freakin 5:15 in the morning :(...
[11:14] <abattoir> corin: i'm not sure, if kmix detects your sound card, but amarok doesnt, i dont know...
[11:14] <abattoir> ok, ok, go sleep :)
[11:15] <corin> ok
[11:15] <corin> should I just check here tommorrow and hope for the best?
[11:15] <abattoir> corin: sure
[11:17] <corin> ok
[11:17] <corin> thanks everybody...
[11:17] <corin> zzz
[11:25] <ergin> hello everyone
[11:26] <ergin> is there anybody to help me ?
[11:26] <osh_> ergin: ask your question first, then we'll see.
[11:27] <ergin> i have two sound card
[11:27] <ergin> and
[11:27] <ergin> one of them pcmcia
[11:28] <ergin> i prefer to use it
[11:28] <ergin> but kubuntu prefers on board
[11:28] <ergin> how can i change that
[11:28] <ergin> ??
[11:29] <ergin> there is no chance to disable on bios
[11:30] <osh_> ergin: I think that you can disable the internal card by removing the module that controls it /etc/modules.conf or some such.
[11:32] <ergin> no way :)
[11:32] <ergin> poor me :)))))))))
[11:36] <qbit> arghhhh!  I didnt set the password during the installation. Is there any default password for root?
[11:43] <kakalto> !tell Nickay about root
[11:44] <kakalto> Nickay: root account is disabled by default
[11:44] <imbrandon> !sudo > Nickay
[11:44] <kakalto> imbrandon: already did that =)
[11:44] <imbrandon> ahh yea :) just noticed
[11:44] <kakalto> hehe
[11:45] <qbit> can't you sudo passwd and add a password to it? as long as you're already in sudoers?
[11:45] <imbrandon> qbit, you can but not a good idea as ubuntu was designed NOT to use that
[11:45] <qbit> heheh
[11:45] <kakalto> yeah
[11:45] <imbrandon> and it will break things
[11:46] <qbit> yeah - I wouldn't ever run X/KDE as root   lol
[11:46] <imbrandon> like ice auth files
[11:46] <kakalto> well, you can just run a single app as root - kdesu <app>
[11:46] <qbit> if it's a graphical app that's what I do
[11:47] <qbit> but I do like to be able to su, old habit
[11:47] <Pupeno_> qbit: sudo su -
[11:47] <Nickay> One more questiobn. During installation for Kubuntu it must be internet connection? Without internet is able to finished the install?
[11:47] <imbrandon> no internet is NEEDED
[11:47] <qbit> I find that after I get a box configged the way I want the need for root drops off to practilly nil
[11:48] <imbrandon> only for updates if you wish
[11:48] <kakalto> qbit: yeah, true
[11:48] <Nickay> thanks
[11:49] <imbrandon> unless your a dev and are changing bit and adding pieces all the time ;)
[11:50] <kakalto> then again, I have a tendency to tinker.
[11:50] <kakalto> must've picked it up from gentoo
[11:50] <qbit> me - when I'm in test mode I tend to beat it death
[11:50] <qbit> which is what I'm doing to Kubuntu right now
[11:51] <qbit> generally at home I've been using FreeBSD for 6-7 years now
[11:52] <kakalto> ah.
[11:52] <kakalto> I've been mostly gentoo for about 2 years.
[11:52] <kakalto> dipping my feet in ubuntu every 6 months or so
[11:53] <qbit> I haven't had a lot to do with Linux, pretty much the same as you just checking it out periodically
[11:54] <kakalto> yeh
[11:54] <osh_> Linux is crap. But so is windows. And osx. But atleast linux is free.
[11:54] <kakalto> I've raised an eye at freebsd
[11:54] <kakalto> but as I see, less support for hardware and even software.... I can't really bother trying.
[11:55] <qbit> I really like FreeBSD, but it is better used as a server environment
[11:55] <eniac_petrov> Dude's, I have small problem with adept. When I start adept, the program guives me a message: another program is using the database, I have tried to restart the computer or kill some processes, but this not works. The automatic updates applet is also broken. Please, help. :-)
[11:55] <kakalto> I have my nice kde-xgl-kubuntu setup now, I think I'll stick with it for a while
[11:55] <qbit> and up util very recently it was faster than Linux
[11:56] <qbit> but I'm seeing better disk transfer rates in Linux now, just don't think I trust async disk mounts on a server
[11:56] <kakalto> qbit: yeah, server.
[11:56] <kakalto> I don't run servers, only desktops =)
[11:56] <kakalto> eniac_petrov: sounds like your automatic updates applet is stopping adept from working =S
[11:57] <qbit> I do the MCSE thing at work; I'm responsible for a little over a couple of dozen Windows servers and 5 FreeBSD ones
[11:57] <kakalto> ah
[11:57] <qbit> and a small lan at home for my own fun
[11:58] <eniac_petrov> kakalto , no, the computer guives me this message also in the automatic updates
[12:02] <kakalto> eniac_petrov: ah. sorry _I_ can't help, but stick around - or google for it
[12:02] <sugu> su says incorrect password
[12:02] <eniac_petrov> kakalto: no problems, but thanks
[12:02] <kakalto> good luck =)
[12:03] <eniac_petrov> thanks
[12:03] <sugu> please help me
[12:03] <eniac_petrov> sugu, that is your trouble?
[12:03] <kakalto> sugu: 'incorrect password' usually means, just that
[12:03] <kakalto> you typed it in wrong - caps lock isn't on?
[12:03] <isete> is swap partion supposed to be `amount of RAM` * 2 ?
[12:04] <kakalto> isete: to an extent
[12:04] <kakalto> isete: that was the rule of thumb, once upon a time. but these days, with 1gb of ram, you don't need 2gb of swap
[12:04] <sugu> kakalto: I give correct password... what can i do for tht
[12:04] <isete> that's exactly what i have
[12:04] <isete> i thought i need 2 GB
[12:05] <isete> what is the size nowdays?
[12:05] <sugu> it says su returned with error
[12:05] <kakalto> isete: I'm not completely sure; I did 768mb, but when I monitor my swap usage, I never use any
[12:05] <kakalto> I also have 1gb of ram
[12:05] <kakalto> sugu: weird.
[12:06] <isete> kakalto: if i resize my swap part - how do i need to change settings in kubuntu? do i need to?
[12:06] <kakalto> isete: nah, it should "just work"(TM)
[12:06] <kakalto> =)
[12:07] <sugu> kakalto: please tell me... why is this error.. if try any command with sudo it works.. wat is su
[12:07] <isete> can i make new free space be consumed by the root part or u'd suggest making a new partition?
[12:07] <kakalto> sugu: ah.
[12:07] <kakalto> sugu: sorry, my eyes fail me.
[12:08] <kakalto> I didn't realise it said 'su'
[12:08] <kakalto> root account is disabled by default in kubuntu.
[12:08] <sugu> ya it said su
[12:08] <qbit> sugu: what happens if you do: sudo passwd -e root  ?
[12:08] <kakalto> !sudo > sugu
[12:09] <sugu> kakalto: it says Password set to expire
[12:09] <Pupeno_> I have to computers where the network wi-fi interface is configured exactly the same, the computers are next to each other, one connects the other doesn't (never gets a DHCP offer). The signal in the one that doesn't connect si good. What I see in iwconfig is that the essid is not set. Any ideas ?
[12:09] <qbit> or even sudo passwd -S root should show status
[12:10] <TheHighChild> about to test compiz, wish me luck!
[12:10] <sugu> kakalto: is it because my password contains "su"
[12:11] <kakalto> sugu: I doubt, not sure
[12:11] <sugu> kakalto: how to change password.. i want command
[12:12] <kakalto> root password? isn't it just 'sudo passwd'?
[12:12] <qbit> well start off with sudo passwd -S root
[12:12] <qbit> man passwd will show all the stuff
[12:12] <qbit> -l will lock and account and -u will unlock
[12:13] <qbit> -e will expire an account forcing a user to change the password on nect login
[12:14] <sugu> kakalto: it still says "Su returned with an error"
[12:14] <sugu> any idea what is Su
[12:15] <qbit> su stands for "superuser"
[12:15] <qbit> if your account is listed in /etc/sudoers you can "su" to root privilege
[12:15] <kakalto> sugu: sorry matey, I'm going absolutely mad trying to txt people. hopefully qbit's helping you well :)
[12:17] <osh_> qbit: actually "su" stands for "switch user" or atleast it did.
[12:17] <kakalto> osh_: then how does "sudo" stand for "superuser do"?
[12:17] <kakalto> I suppose they're just different
[12:17] <kakalto> duh.
[12:17] <sysrpl> does anyone here use gtk interface designer?
[12:18] <qbit> actually iirc osh_ is right
[12:18] <thyko> how do i customize the bootsplash?
[12:18] <thyko> to this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29662
[12:19] <Tm_Konvi> kakalto: hi
[12:19] <kakalto> Tm_Konvi: hey =)
[12:19] <sugu> qbit: Can u help me.. please tell me why this happens
[12:20] <qbit> thyko: in system config look down at system admin at bottom for the login manager
[12:20] <qbit> thyko: change to adminstrator mode and look at the "background" tab
[12:21] <qbit> if you're talking about KDM; if you mean before that I'm not sure
[12:21] <qbit> sugu: it probably happens because the root account is either locked or has no password
[12:22] <qbit> or both
[12:22] <sugu> qbit: but is there a root account..
[12:23] <qbit> look at /etc/group and see if your user account is in the admin group
[12:24] <qbit> and if the account is locked you'll need to unlock it
[12:24] <qbit> man passwd tells which switches do what
[12:25] <qbit> iirc kubuntu puts the first user account created into the admin group in /etc/group on initial install/setup
[12:25] <qbit> the admin group is in sudoers
[12:26] <qbit> this should allow you [if you are in the admin group]  to sudo passwd
[12:26] <qbit> do this: sudo passwd -S root
[12:26] <NKjoep> hi, i'm runnin kubuntu 606... why the desktop icons of devices are hidden? i enabled them but they still stay away
[12:27] <qbit> this will either return the status of the account or an error
[12:27] <sugu> qbit: my account is the one and only account on this system
[12:27] <qbit> if you can retrieve the status this way you can manipulate the account
[12:28] <qbit> then if you cat /etc/group you should see something like this: admin:x:111:youruseraccount name
[12:29] <qbit> near the bottom
[12:29] <sugu> qbit: when i give "sudo passwd -S root" it returns"root P 07/13/2006 0 99999 7 -1"
[12:30] <ivan> hi all what is command for I install program
[12:30] <ivan> ?
[12:32] <osh_> ivan: sudo aptitude install "program"
[12:33] <ivan> I dont know how install skype :( ???
[12:34] <osh_> ivan: skype is kind of special. Download "easyubuntu" and install it from there.
[12:34] <osh_> !tell ivan about easyubuntu
[12:34] <ivan> ?
[12:34] <Gonzo> i can't mount my usb sd card reader anymore
[12:34] <Gonzo> it just suddently stopped working
[12:34] <Gonzo> :(
[12:35] <Gonzo> i can see a few post on the forum about that but nothing that solves the actual problem
[12:35] <thyko> qbit: thanks
[12:35] <Gonzo> anyone has any idea?
[12:35] <ivan> whay is command i install skype
[12:36] <osh_> !easyubuntu
[12:36] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:36] <ivan> ok
[12:36] <ivan> thanks
[12:40] <cristiano> hello all
[12:41] <mongey|zZz> !mp3
[12:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:42] <osh_> !tell mongey|zZz about easyubuntu
[12:43] <cristiano> when i use "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout it" it gives me an error
[12:43] <cristiano> it says "
[12:43] <cristiano> Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
[12:43] <cristiano> Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
[12:43] <cristiano> Segmentation fault
[12:43] <cristiano> what kind of error is this? how can i fix it?
[12:44] <cristiano> any clues for me?
[12:45] <sugu> hi
[12:45] <cristiano> sugu: hi
[12:46] <sugu> cristiano: how to play MP3 in kubuntu... I saw the wiki page...
[12:47] <cristiano> sugu u can use Amarok or XMMS as player
[12:47] <sugu> cristiano: it says to install some packages... but how to intall them
[12:47] <cristiano> sugu: if u have already installed all the codecs suggested on the wiki page u should be ok
[12:47] <sugu> cristiano: no i have not installed the codecs
[12:48] <qbit> add multiverse to your /etc/apt/sources.list to install the additional codecs if you don't have them
[12:48] <cristiano> sugu: u can install with apt-get or its graphical interface Adept in Kubuntu
[12:49] <cristiano> sugu: u should follow the instructions given in the wiki and enable all the repositories in the sources.list (u can do this via Adept) and adding the multiverse repo
[12:49] <sugu> cristiano: how to add repos in adept
[12:50] <cristiano> sugu: click on View->manage repositories
[12:50] <cristiano> (i hope it's the right translation, i've it in italian ^^)
[12:50] <cristiano> uniq: hello how are u? :)
[12:50] <sugu> cristiano: i see only Review Changes in View menu
[12:51] <isete> when i boot my new kubuntu install it stalls at "waiting for root file system". how long should i wait? what might be the problem?
[12:51] <cristiano> sugu:  did u open "Adept"?are u sure?
[12:51] <isete> bootu my new kubuntu
[12:51] <sugu> ya
[12:52] <sugu> cristiano: wat to do??
[12:52] <cristiano> sugu: u should have 5 menu : "Adept, Modify, View, Settings, Help" right?
[12:52] <sugu> cristiano: ya
[12:52] <cristiano> sugu: ok click adept
[12:52] <sugu> cristiano: in adept i see quit
[12:53] <cristiano> sugu: just quit?
[12:53] <sugu> cristiano: only wuit
[12:53] <sugu> cristiano: ya
[12:53] <cristiano> sugu: did u enter the password when prompted opening adept?
[12:53] <sugu> cristiano: ya
[12:53] <Smooph>  you can also edit the file located at "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:53] <Smooph> crabstic: sugu
[12:53] <cristiano> sugu: that's quite weird...ok do as told by Smooph
[12:54] <cristiano> sugu:  in console type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:54] <sugu> cristiano: smooph: please wait.. let me try
[12:54] <Smooph> sure
[12:55] <cristiano> then uncomment all the repositories and add the multiverse repo
[12:55] <cristiano> Smooph can i ask u something?
[12:55] <Smooph> sure
[12:55] <sugu> cristiano: ha ha all lines are comment :)
[12:56] <Smooph> one second
[12:56] <elden> guys, i just want to know something
[12:56] <cristiano> when typing in console "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout it" it gives an error
[12:56] <cristiano> Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
[12:56] <cristiano> Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
[12:56] <cristiano> Segmentation fault
[12:56] <elden> does xgll & compiz run smoothly in an Intel 915 card?
[12:57] <cristiano> which kind of error is this?
[12:57] <cristiano> sugu: u have to uncomment the repositories only (ie: deb http://... dapper universe and so on)
[01:00] <TheHighChild> any 1337 compiz folsk in the house? I have ir working, just some questions on configuration options and tools
[01:01] <Smooph> sry I have to go
[01:01] <NKjoep> i'm runnin kubuntu 606... why the desktop icons of devices are hidden? i enabled them but they still stay away
[01:01] <sugu> cristiano: i uncommented all lines like deb http://.... .. .
[01:01] <sugu> cristiano: but same again
[01:02] <cristiano> now from console do "sudo apt-get update"
[01:05] <dondi> has anyone ever installed java webstart on kubuntu?
[01:06] <dondi> and should it work with GCJ?
[01:07] <dondi> my feeling is it won't. :(
[01:08] <anders_> hello
[01:08] <jaro> Whats wrong ? I cant Kill Kaffeine ????
[01:10] <jaro> how can i Find out which process is using the em28xx module ??
[01:10] <anders_> anyone that is good at java here?
[01:12] <anders_> hello
[01:13] <dondi> i'm sure some of us are. ;)
[01:13] <elden> heh
[01:13] <anders_> anybody that can help me install java to kubuntu???
[01:13] <elden> i can help you out
[01:13] <dondi> hah... that's exactly what I'm doing now.
[01:13] <dondi> see here http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142
[01:13] <anders_> :P
[01:14] <anders_> dondi: are u speaking with me
[01:14] <dondi> anders_: yes
[01:14] <elden> what java are you referring to/
[01:14] <anders_> sun java
[01:14] <anders_> i need
[01:14] <elden> runtime environment?
[01:14] <anders_> yes
[01:14] <anders_> so i can play java programs etc etc
[01:15] <elden> ic
[01:15] <dondi> check out the link i posted
[01:15] <elden> then just go to java.com
[01:15] <elden> and download the binary or rpm
[01:15] <anders_> dondi: ok, i just have to follow it
[01:16] <elden> or just check this link: http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml
[01:16] <pedro> Hello everyone, I have a problem with ip direction
[01:16] <dondi> anders_: yes, my guess is you will have to use 'sudo' every now and then though.
[01:16] <anders_> dondi: it dident find: java-package ??
[01:17] <pedro> everytime I reboot my pc, my ip direction changes
[01:17] <anders_> apt-get install fakeroot java-package dident work dondi !
[01:17] <pedro> I have to open ports in my router xavi
[01:18] <pedro> but in Kubuntu, when I make >ifconfig< it shows me an inet adress that I cannot use to open ports
[01:18] <pedro> In theory, the direction must start by 192.168...
[01:18] <anders_> dondi: are u there?
[01:19] <dondi> anders_: yes
[01:19] <pedro> but it is not like that any help to open ports o change the ip direction?
[01:19] <dondi> trying to figure it out
[01:19] <anders_> ok, becouse i just installed it :)
[01:20] <Howitzer> Is anyone going trough the same thing as me?, I tried Kubuntu out and i was really excited, now i'm just bored with it and going back to Ubuntu :/
[01:20] <kakalto> anders_: you're back? =D that was an awful long 20mins
[01:21] <anders_> kakalto: omg, my cdrom was weird
[01:21] <kakalto> you mean, your cup-holder?
[01:21] <anders_> :o
[01:21] <anders_> ?
[01:21] <kakalto> =)
[01:21] <kakalto> dw.
[01:22] <kakalto> it's a classic joke. the cdrom drive is a cupholder.
[01:22] <anders_> :p
[01:22] <anders_> private chat plx :d
[01:22] <aegeanlinux> anyone here have about 1 hour of free programming time to donate?
[01:22] <aegeanlinux> of C
[01:23] <kakalto> not me
[01:23] <aegeanlinux> dang
[01:24] <anders_> kakalto: priv? :S
[01:24] <sugu> cristiano: in which repo is the MP3 codecs
[01:25] <Snake> !mp3
[01:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:25] <Snake> God ubotu got so generic
[01:25] <kakalto> lol
[01:29] <Snake> and waits and waits and waits
[01:30] <dondi> anders_: this is what worked for me. modify /etc/apt/sources.list, change
[01:30] <dondi> Change the first section lines deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[01:30] <dondi> to deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[01:31] <anders_> ok
[01:31] <munu> anybody - how do i set root password on kubuntu?
[01:31] <Lynoure> munu: do you really need to?
[01:31] <anders_> dondi: what worked after that? :P
[01:31] <Lynoure> munu: sudo is pretty handy
[01:31] <anders_> dondi: problem is that iam using dapper?
[01:32] <Snake> Grr wtf
[01:32] <mlarcher> i usually use "sudo su" to get root and then i can set the root-password simply with passwd
[01:33] <munu> great - just did it
[01:33] <munu> thanks
[01:33] <anders_> dondi: ...?
[01:34] <anders_> dondi: ...?
[01:34] <anders_> iam using dapper..
[01:36] <mlarcher> anybody ever tried to install pdo_informix?
[01:36] <Snake> !info pdo_informix
[01:36] <ubotu> Package pdo_informix does not exist in dapper
[01:36] <Snake> uhh what is it?
[01:36] <Snake> lol
[01:36] <anders_> kakalto!
[01:36] <mlarcher> it is a php connector for informix database
[01:36] <kakalto> anders_!
[01:36] <kakalto> :)
[01:36] <anders_> wtf :P
[01:36] <Snake> Snake!
[01:37] <mlarcher> you need pear and pecl to install
[01:37] <kakalto> hehe.
[01:37] <Snake> Ah
[01:37] <Snake> mlarcher: cant say I Have :(
[01:37] <anders_> kakalto: can u help with automatix now?
[01:37] <kakalto> anders_, I remember someone of a similar stature as you, just a few hours ago..
[01:37] <Snake> anders_: go with EU, :)
[01:37] <anders_> huh? :O
[01:37] <mlarcher> i tried... but does not work
[01:38] <Snake> ubotu: easyubuntu > anders_
[01:38] <kakalto> anders_: sorry, should I go back to my padded room?
[01:38] <anders_> ye
[01:38] <Snake> ahhhhh
[01:39] <Snake> POS
[01:39] <anders_> Snake: wtf is that? P:
[01:39] <Snake> anders_: a program that (imo) OWNS automatix :)
[01:39] <anders_> ok :)
[01:39] <anders_> can i remove it when i got java? :o
[01:39] <Snake> Sure
[01:40] <stinkball> can someone help me get my sound working?
[01:40] <Snake> stinkball: be more specific?
[01:40] <anders_> huh
[01:40] <anders_> shall i install all this in here or shall i download automatix to?
[01:40] <stinkball> well... i have a SB audidy 2 zs and there is no sound
[01:41] <stinkball> as far as i know i haven't changed anything since install
[01:41] <Snake> anders_: EU should be fine, automatix has a rep of breaking systems (apparently their new team is making it better, but well see)
[01:42] <Snake> Not to get debiany in here.. but so that everyone knows... DONT IRC ON ROOT
[01:43] <anders_> ok
[01:43] <anders_> ofc i dont irc at root :d
[01:44] <Snake> have I mentions how much I hate java
[01:44] <dondi> why is that? @ Snake
[01:45] <anders_> Snake: i have to reboot now?
[01:45] <Snake> dondi: It runs. really. really. slow. on my system
[01:45] <__osh___> Snake: What? You don't like the "Write once, debug everywhere" ideom?
[01:45] <Snake> anders_: whys that??
[01:45] <anders_> to activate my nVIDIA
[01:45] <Snake> ahh
[01:45] <Snake> prolly
[01:46] <anders_> how can i download gaim and put it on desktop?
[01:46] <Snake> WOW thats neat!!!
[01:46] <anders_> apt-get install gaim ?
[01:46] <Snake> anders_: yes
[01:46] <Snake> sudo apt-get to be exact
[01:46] <anders_> but how can i put it on the desktop?
[01:46] <anders_> oook?
[01:46] <Snake> anders_: you would need to right click, and add shortcut to application
[01:46] <__osh___> anders_: you could probably just run the /etc/init.d/nvidia script and go to runlevel3, add the new module and go back up to 5. If you want.
[01:46] <Snake> I just got MP3 previewing set up yayaayy
[01:47] <Snake> __osh___: or he could reboot :P
[01:47] <Snake> :)
[01:47] <__osh___> Snake: probably quicker, yeah... ;-)
[01:47] <Snake> Nautlis MP3 previewing is pretty awesome lol
[01:47] <Snake> songs**
[01:48] <Snake> cya guys
[01:48] <anders_> what is the name to come to the xorg.conf ?
[01:49] <anders_> /dev/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:49] <munu> is there a way to read CHM files in kubuntu?
[01:49] <munu> it's compiled help format
[01:50] <aegeanlinux> no, not that I know of
[01:50] <aegeanlinux> but there is a CHM decompiler
[01:50] <aegeanlinux> that then spits out html files
[01:50] <aegeanlinux> which you can view in your favorite browser
[01:51] <sugu> i dont see windows in the grub menu how can i restore that
[01:51] <dondi> anders_: /etc/X11...
[01:51] <NKjoep> .quit late
[01:52] <anders_> :o
[01:53] <anders_> Snake: there?
[01:54] <anders_> how do i install: gedit ???
[01:54] <cristiano> ehm how to become away in irc? ^^
[01:54] <cristiano> .away
[01:56] <anders_> ehm
[01:56] <anders_> ehm
[01:56] <anders_> emh
[01:56] <dondi> Kate is quite Kool :p
[02:09] <coma> !homo
[02:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about homo - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <aegeanlinux> !libtar
[02:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about libtar - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <aegeanlinux> !kde
[02:10] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:10] <aegeanlinux> !your mum
[02:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about your mum - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <coma> !hacking the mainframe
[02:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about hacking the mainframe - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <aegeanlinux> !any other linux distributions
[02:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about any other linux distributions - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <aegeanlinux> !suse
[02:11] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[02:11] <aegeanlinux> !. I lie. Really, I do
[02:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about . I lie. Really, I do - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:12] <coma> !love, teach me to love
[02:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about love, teach me to love - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:13] <aegeanlinux> !the UFO that just landed. Head the newspaper, watch TV
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about the UFO that just landed. Head the newspaper, watch TV - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:14] <coma> lmfao
[02:16] <Dasnipa] [> !why my mother left me
[02:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about why my mother left me - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <aegeanlinux> !the stolen item
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[02:17] <aegeanlinux> LOL!!!!!!!!!
[02:25] <aegeanlinux> Good night all
[02:25] <coma> night
[02:25] <MetaMorfoziS> can i get cedega without paying?
[02:32] <osh_> MetaMorfoziS: No. But wine is the free version.
[02:33] <kakalto> MetaMorfoziS: there is a way. it's called cvscedega
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i tryingit
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i downloaded the script
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> the wineCVS.sh
[02:35] <MetaMorfoziS> but i dunno what i need to get it work
[02:36] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can help me?
[02:44] <Kwukki> !lol
[02:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about lol - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:53] <mauricio> hello !!
[02:54] <mauricio> dose anybody knows how to install kubuntu into a ich7 raid ????
[02:54] <mauricio> does anybody knows how to install kubuntu into a ich7 raid ????
[02:55] <Pupeno_> Hello.
[02:56] <Pupeno_> I have a Kubuntu box that was playing music just fine yesterday. But today amarok seems to be playing but no sound is comming out. I've tried raising all the volumes. Any ideas.
[02:56] <Pupeno_> Sometimes, if I reboot, it works.
[02:56] <Pascutti> Did you look the engine?
[02:57] <Pupeno_> Pascutti: the engine is xine, it is the only one ever installed in this box.
[02:57] <Pascutti> In suse I had a lot of headache with xine...
[02:57] <Pupeno_> Pascutti: in Kubuntu it is the default.
[03:10] <Pupeno_> ok, this computer is driving me crazy.
[03:11] <Pupeno_> the wireless card doesn't connect on start up of the computer but if I do sudo ifdown ath0 ; sudo ifup ath0 it starts.
[03:20] <Pupeno_> just a /etc/init.d/network restarts makes it work :(
[03:23] <pparker> hi, i've got problems with screensaver not working fine
[03:24] <pparker> i can test them but it dont start automatically
[03:24] <pparker> any advices
[03:28] <Hobbsee> pparker: kde 3.5.3?
[03:29] <erikson> OK folks , looking for a way to play and backup my dvds ...right now nothing seems to be able to play the copy protected ones
[03:30] <pparker> Hobbsee: yes on dapper and compiz
[03:30] <Hobbsee> pparker: yeah, known problem.
[03:31] <pparker> is it compiz ?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:32] <Aji-Dahaka> oh, right
[03:32] <Hobbsee> no, it's a problem with kde 3.5.3
[03:32] <Aji-Dahaka> anyone know how edgy eff is progressing?  Repos up yet?
[03:33] <pparker> Hobbsee: kopete crashed
[03:33] <Hobbsee> Aji-Dahaka: first knot cd is being made, i dont know how broken it is
[03:33] <Hobbsee> pparker: ah yes, great.  which kopete?
[03:33] <Aji-Dahaka> brokenness, great :)
[03:33] <Hobbsee> i think
[03:33] <pparker> 0.12
[03:33] <Hobbsee> Aji-Dahaka: it's  for developers only, at the moment
[03:33] <Aji-Dahaka> I _love_ brokenness <3
[03:33] <Aji-Dahaka> <-- developer
[03:33] <Hobbsee> pparker: no, it's a problem with kde 3.5.3
[03:33] <Hobbsee> Aji-Dahaka: nice, what for?
[03:34] <Aji-Dahaka> Hobbsee: kde, linux, freebsd, papi ...
[03:34] <Aji-Dahaka> the list (unfortunately) goes on and on
[03:34] <Hobbsee> Aji-Dahaka: nice :)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:34] <Aji-Dahaka> but linux and papi for work
[03:34] <Aji-Dahaka> kde and freebsd get shoved into my spare time
[03:35] <pparker> i've also a problem with kontact: it d'ont write my emails on an mbox folder but on maildir; in settings i choose mbox
[03:35] <Aji-Dahaka> some of them are "forced" to be maildir....
[03:35] <Aji-Dahaka> (I don't like it, either)
[03:35] <osh_> Why's drupal so outdated in ubuntu? Even in dapper the latest version is 4.5 while both 4.6 and 4.7 has been out for a while.
[03:35] <erikson> which player will do copyrighted dvds...can't play movies :(
[03:36] <Aji-Dahaka> so I made an inbox of mbox format and then told everything that used to use Inbox to use inbox
[03:36] <pparker> after i can  not import them on thunderbird
[03:36] <Aji-Dahaka> erikson: mplayer should
[03:36] <osh_> erikson: any player with the right codecs installed. but mplayer is usually good.
[03:36] <luc45> erikson: it's not the player, its the lib
[03:36] <TheHighChild> any compiz users?
[03:36] <osh_> !tell erikson about easyubuntu
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> !dvdcss
[03:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about dvdcss - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:36] <Aji-Dahaka> ooh, burned
[03:37] <erikson> yeah, I realize I need more codecs and libs , but which ones ?
[03:37] <pparker> TheHighChild: here is one
[03:37] <luc45> erikson: libdvdcss
[03:38] <luc45> erikson: found it? http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/
[03:39] <TheHighChild> pparker: Nice name, close to my own. As for compiz. I have it setup and working, it's very cool but I can't figure out how to configure it. The stuff n gset-compix doesn't seem to have any affect. Just wondering if there is an alternative
[03:39] <Aji-Dahaka> TheHighChild: user, yes ... but knowledgeable I am not
[03:39] <Aji-Dahaka> gconf thingit
[03:40] <osh_> erikson: didn't you get the link about easyubuntu?
[03:40] <Aji-Dahaka> the gconf thingit has all (?) of the options specified in its own hard-to-understand format
[03:40] <TheHighChild> pparker: i hate not having a title bar, etc. I can't remap the keys either so no ctrl+tab which is obscene
[03:40] <osh_> ! tell osh_ about easyubuntu
[03:40] <luc45> erikson: after install u will probably need to update kafeine and reboot
[03:40] <pparker> TheHighChild: i've installed pykompiz for easy switching between kwin and compiz
[03:41] <Aji-Dahaka> pparker: what's that do?
[03:41] <pparker> allow to use kwin or compiz
[03:41] <TheHighChild> what is kwin?
[03:42] <doppelganger_> whats up everyone =)
[03:42] <pparker> the default kde window decorator
[03:43] <doppelganger_> what is the kubuntu (or KDE?) start button called? I'm wanting to change it's picture
[03:45] <doppelganger_> no one? aww, thats an easy one! =)
[03:45] <osh_> Could this be the reason drupal is so outdated? http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/drupal.html ? Does universe/multiverse use the debian packages?
[03:45] <Sikon> I installed Xgl and Compiz on Kubuntu 6.06 per the wiki guide, now "Show desktop" and some applications don't work
[03:45] <TheHighChild> kmenu
[03:46] <Sikon> those that use the system tray
[03:46] <jaro> How Can I use Analogue Mode with KAffeine (TV-USB)
[03:46] <insanekane> doppelganger_: i *think* you can just drag a picture onto the k button and it will use it
[03:46] <insanekane> doppelganger_: i *think*
[03:48] <insanekane> doppelganger_: /usr/share/apps/kicker/tiles/KDE_button_*.png
[03:48] <jaro> How Can I use Analogue Mode with KAffeine (TV-USB)
[03:49] <insanekane> doppelganger_: sorry, wrong
[03:49] <luc45> insanekane: it will if u use kbfx
[03:49] <insanekane> luc45: eh, kbfx really is quite bad
[03:49] <luc45> insanekane: yep
[03:50] <luc45> insanekane: i know. its crap
[03:50] <insanekane> luc45: very much so
[03:50] <insanekane> :)
[03:51] <luc45> insanekane: but still better than the tiny kmenu
[03:51] <abattoir__> doppelganger_: i think it is  /usr/share/icons/icon_theme/size/apps/kmenu.png
[03:52] <Pupeno_> what is the most raw way to test the sound ?
[03:52] <insanekane> luc45: not at all
[03:52] <abattoir__> doppelganger_: if it is a user installed theme, it'd be /home/usr/.kde/share/icons/icon_theme/size/apps/kmenu.png
[03:52] <luc45> insanekane: i will use it until something better appears.
[03:53] <abattoir__> Pupeno_: aplay an the cli
[03:53] <Pupeno_> abattoir__: thanks.
[03:53] <abattoir__> Pupeno_: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*.ogg
[03:54] <teknoprep> how do i write to an ntfs partition?
[03:54] <Pupeno_> abattoir: I did aplay /etc/skel/Examples/ubuntu\ Sax.ogg, I hear something like static, ugly, but at least at hear something on this box. Nothing comes out of the other box.
[03:54] <insanekane> luc45: if it is only the icon that bothers you, there is a patch on the kde-apps.org which allows you to use any kind of image for the K Button
[03:54] <abattoir> Pupeno_: sorry, what about KDE*.wav ?
[03:54] <luc45> insanekane: yep?
[03:55] <luc45> insanekane: for 3.5.x?
[03:55] <abattoir> Pupeno_: i mean, try playing a wav file
[03:55] <Pupeno_> abattoir: that works :)
[03:55] <Pupeno_> abattoir: anyway, what bothers me is the other PC not playing anything.
[03:56] <abattoir> Pupeno_: iirc, aplay doesnt handle mp3/ogg
[03:56] <abattoir> Pupeno_: same setup?
[03:56] <Pupeno_> abattoir: very similar.
[03:56] <abattoir> Pupeno_: so same sound card?
[03:57] <ranunculoid> I have unpartitioned space (25gb) that I set aside at the end of my disk in case I ever installed windoze. I now know I will never want windoze. Does anyone know how I can merge this space with my "home" partition?
[03:57] <Pupeno_> abattoir: no, that's different.
[03:57] <luc45> insanekane: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26681 ??
[03:57] <ninhertatil> hi all
[03:57] <Pupeno_> abattoir: the one not working has a Sound Blaster Live! and a (disabled) on-board SiS-something.
[03:58] <abattoir> Pupeno_: does kmix identify the card properly?
[03:58] <Pupeno_> abattoir: yes. It shows all the nifty sb live controls.
[03:58] <Pupeno_> abattoir: alsamixer as well.
[03:59] <osh_> ranunculoid: if you've created a volume of your home-dir then you can just create another volume from your unused space and merge the two. Check out evms.
[03:59] <insanekane> luc45: oh yeah thats the one
[04:00] <ranunculoid> osh_: apt-get install evms? Does it have a GUI?
[04:00] <luc45> insanekane: its for 3.4 :(
[04:01] <insanekane> luc45: so /
[04:01] <osh_> ranunculoid: yes, evms-gui I think. That only works if you've created lvm volumes already.
[04:01] <luc45> insanekane: how do i install this in 3.5?
[04:01] <Pupeno_> abattoir: I had to raise the Wave input (aside of the master and pcm outputs).
[04:01] <Pupeno_> Thanks.
[04:01] <ranunculoid> osh_: I put suse on it one day when I was bored, that'sd mean there's lvm volumes on it right?
[04:02] <abattoir> Pupeno_: oh, then try upgrading your kernel, if it is not the latest, sometime there should be a fix for it
[04:02] <insanekane> luc45: be back soon
[04:02] <luc45> insanekane: ok
[04:03] <cristiano> hello again
[04:03] <doppelganger_> whoops, back
[04:03] <cristiano> guys it looks like dmix suddenly isn't working anymore, anyone experienced this problem?
[04:03] <doppelganger_> hate being at work =\
[04:03] <doppelganger_> ok, so the "start" button is called kmenu?
[04:03] <osh_> ranunculoid: sorry, can't tell. Havent' tried suse.
[04:03] <doppelganger_> hmm
[04:04] <abattoir> doppelganger_: no, the icon for it is kmenu.png
[04:04] <doppelganger_> oh ok
[04:04] <abattoir> doppelganger_: look at the folders where you could try replacing it
[04:04] <ranunculoid> osh_: evms is installed. I just apt-got it. How do I launch it? "evms" or "evms-gui" return "command not found"
[04:04] <doppelganger_> ok, see what i had done was download kbfx last night...
[04:04] <doppelganger_> it was terrible..
[04:05] <doppelganger_> gave me a start button that wouldn't give me my old start button's functionality
[04:05] <abattoir> doppelganger_: you can remove it if you want
[04:05] <abattoir> doppelganger_: 'sudo apt-get remove kbfx' or through adept
[04:05] <doppelganger_> the "kmenu" option in kbfx wouldn't work, but the two others would (but were ugly as sin)
[04:05] <osh_> ranunculoid: try sudo pvdisplay, lvdisplay or vgdisplay? got any of those and you might not be SOL.
[04:05] <doppelganger_> so i guess i'll just try and replace it's png then
[04:05] <doppelganger_> =)
[04:05] <abattoir> doppelganger_: :)
[04:06] <doppelganger_> may i ask one more taskbar related question?
[04:06] <doppelganger_> tiny one
[04:06] <Aji-Dahaka> jeje, doppelganger_ ... that's much wittier than doppelganger
[04:06] <abattoir> doppelganger_: sure
[04:06] <ranunculoid> /msg osh_
[04:06] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo pvdisplay
[04:06] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo lvdisplay
[04:06] <ranunculoid>   No volume groups found
[04:07] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$ sudo vgdisplay
[04:07] <ranunculoid>   No volume groups found
[04:07] <ranunculoid> eamon@eamon-desktop:~$
[04:07] <abattoir> doppelganger_: be aware that there are different sizes for kmenu.png, make sure you either try replacing all, or for the size you want
[04:07] <doppelganger_> ok...  so i also changed whole taskbar color to black last night using that kbfx app
[04:07] <doppelganger_> but now..
[04:07] <abattoir> doppelganger_: it would also be wise to rename the old one as kmenu.png.old, so you could use it later, if you want
[04:07] <doppelganger_> any open windows' text is also black
[04:07] <abattoir> doppelganger_: window title?
[04:08] <teknoprep> yo
[04:08] <teknoprep> how do i set the suid on a program
[04:08] <teknoprep> to root so a normal user runs it as root
[04:08] <teknoprep> smbmnt is what i want to do this on
[04:09] <Aji-Dahaka> man chmod
[04:09] <Aji-Dahaka> though you may want to use sudo instead
[04:10] <teknoprep> naw i didn't want to use sudo instead
[04:10] <teknoprep> if i wanted to use sudo
[04:10] <teknoprep> i would have used it
[04:10] <osh_> ranunculoid: no physical volume groups. then I don't think I can help you. sorry. I suspect you'll have to recreate your home-dir as a lvm, but that'll destroy the data. :-/
[04:11] <Aji-Dahaka> but chmod should explain it fine
[04:12] <teknoprep> i alrady fixed it
[04:12] <teknoprep> its been awhile since i set a suid and guid
[04:12] <teknoprep> sudo can't do everything omfg
[04:12] <Aji-Dahaka> really?
[04:12] <teknoprep> lol really
[04:12] <Aji-Dahaka> it can run programs as root but _with_ access control
[04:12] <v3ctor> it can't make me breakfast ;)
[04:13] <Aji-Dahaka> that's a proper superset of what suid bits can do
[04:13] <teknoprep> how do you run smbmnt while in smb4k ?
[04:13] <erikson> v3ctor: try sudo /cookeggs
[04:13] <teknoprep> so now while in smb4k i wanna run smbmnt
[04:13] <teknoprep> yes now stop it
[04:13] <teknoprep> it can't do everything
[04:14] <Aji-Dahaka> sure it can
[04:14] <teknoprep> i don't wnat to run smb4k as root
[04:14] <v3ctor> sudo: /cookeggs: command not found
[04:14] <teknoprep> i want to run it as the user i am logged in as
[04:14] <erikson> :) sorry
[04:14] <v3ctor> lol
[04:15] <Aji-Dahaka> oh, that smb4k
[04:15] <Aji-Dahaka> then yeah, you can run it with sudo
[04:15] <Aji-Dahaka> (might be on their faqs section)
[04:15] <teknoprep> ?
[04:15] <teknoprep> i don't want to run smb4k with sudo you moron
[04:15] <teknoprep> smbmnt is a prgram that is run when you mount something from inside of smb4k
[04:15] <Aji-Dahaka> I rather meant the program can run with sudo
[04:16] <Aji-Dahaka> it was a feature addition at some point
[04:16] <teknoprep> ?
[04:16] <Aji-Dahaka> went through my mailbox at least
[04:16] <Aji-Dahaka> they have sudo support
[04:16] <teknoprep> ?
[04:16] <doppelganger_> sorry, back again...  (UGH WORK)
[04:16] <Aji-Dahaka> was quite a while ago, though, that they added it
[04:17] <Aji-Dahaka> so maybe it's no longer on the release docs, not too sure
[04:17] <doppelganger_> so yeah, on my taskbar, now that i have it all black....   any fonts on the thing are black as well
[04:17] <Aji-Dahaka> might have been *ponder* .5.0 or so
[04:17] <Aji-Dahaka> kde-apps shows them having at least a .7.1 out
[04:17] <Aji-Dahaka> oops, nope ... still in their release notes
[04:17] <doppelganger_> any open windows' fonts on the taskbar are black and i can't see them for anything. I tried looking in "fonts"... but i don't see where to change taskbar colors
[04:18] <doppelganger_> *taskbar FONT colors
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> Anyone still have the progressive techno radio station stream still in their cool streams in amarok ?
[04:18] <teknoprep> aji
[04:18] <teknoprep> Aji-Dahaka: it only says mount and umount as sudo.. not smbmnt
[04:18] <teknoprep> but like i said... sudo can't do everything
[04:18] <doppelganger_> whoa, hey aegean, must've missed ya when i was away
[04:19] <teknoprep> not unless the programmer specificly puts support for sudo into the app
[04:19] <teknoprep> suid works no matter what
[04:20] <Aji-Dahaka> but with no access control at all unless you have ACL suid
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> When does sudo not work ? Other than web interfaces and gui stuff ?
[04:20] <Aji-Dahaka> (not sure if that exists in linux)
[04:20] <v3ctor> Aji-Dahaka: yes it does
[04:20] <v3ctor> nvm
[04:20] <Aji-Dahaka> :p
[04:20] <v3ctor> was thinking somehting else
[04:20] <Aji-Dahaka> I really should play with linux ACLs someday
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> selinux has better support for acl's
[04:21] <Aji-Dahaka> h3sp4wn: kernel patches?
[04:21] <teknoprep> Aji-Dahaka: yeah i just checked my settings to
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/
[04:21] <teknoprep> Aji-Dahaka: so yeah suid is the way to go
[04:22] <BlankB> h3sp4wn: when you need to run a gui thingy with su you can use: kdesu
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> BlankB: I know
[04:22] <BlankB> h3sp4wn: gotcha.
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> BlankB: But I never do (don't think gui stuff should ever be run as root)
[04:23] <BlankB> h3sp4wn: the only thing i can think of would be system settings.
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> BlankB: That allows you to switch to administrator mode anyway though doesn't it (maybe using kdesu underneath but I don't know)
[04:25] <BlankB> h3sp4wn: that is correct.
[04:29] <Pupeno_> Kontact crashed and about 15 mails dissapeared from my imap inbox :(  and efectively, accessing it with Thunderbird shows no mail there. If somebody has any idea how to get those mails back, I'll be thankfull.
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno_: With imap your mail should still be on the server
[04:31] <Pupeno_> h3sp4wn: it seems Kontact managed to delete them from the server, Thunderbird shows no mail there.
[04:32] <ranunculoid> If I add another line to fstab that points to /home will that merge the two partitions pointing there?
[04:33] <ranunculoid> probably not...
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno_: I don't understand how that could happen sorry
[04:33] <Pupeno_> ranunculoid: no, it won't.
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: You may want to investigate using unionfs
[04:35] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: unionfs isn't in apt-get:-(
[04:36] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: You need to find out what it is and understand how to use it (search google)
[04:37] <Aji-Dahaka> unionfs isn't in apt-get:-( <-- jeje
[04:38] <ranunculoid> h3sp4wn: Thanks
[04:38] <ranunculoid> Aji-Dahaka: What are you laughing at;-)
[04:41] <Aji-Dahaka> ranunculoid: nothing ... ;)
[04:42] <ranunculoid> unionfs has different versions for different kernels - how can I tell which kernel I have?
[04:42] <nik> *grml* "make" not installed?
[04:43] <Pupeno_> ranunculoid: uname -a
[04:43] <h3sp4wn> nik: Install build-essential
[04:43] <serenity> nik: sudp apt-get install build-essiantial(s,) i am not sure about the s
[04:43] <v3ctor> uname -r
[04:43] <nik> thx
[04:44] <h3sp4wn> ranunculoid: The modules should already be in the standard kubuntu kernel
[04:44] <serenity> but there aren't
[04:44] <v3ctor> it is on mine
[04:45] <serenity> Sysinfo for 'beyond-serenity': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) at 864 MHz (1729 bogomips), HD: 53/110GB, RAM: 405/503MB, 86 proc's, 1.2h up
[04:48] <h3sp4wn> serenity: infobash is a bit better than sysinfo in my oppinion
[04:49] <serenity> h3sp4wn: infobash?
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> serenity: http://rebelhomicide.demon.nl/#infobash
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> CPU[AMD Athlon XP 2600+ clocked at 1913.231 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux <IP_ADDRESS>-rt7-v1 i686]   Up[-4:14-]   Mem[-910.207/1003.56MB-]   HDD[-121GB(17%used)-]   Procs[-122-]   Client[Konversation 0.19]
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> serenity: if you run it with -v you get even more stuff
[04:52] <serenity> h3sp4wn: sounds nice
[05:04] <coma> !fart
[05:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about fart - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <coma> !yum
[05:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about yum - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <Hawkwind> coma: STOP!
[05:05] <coma> !repository
[05:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:06] <Hawkwind> You were told that yesterday
[05:06] <coma> !easysource
[05:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:06] <Lynoure> !bot
[05:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:07] <Lynoure> coma: so you can access it other ways too, and not flood the channel
[05:07] <Hawkwind> He was told that several times yesterday as well.  Yet he continues to play with the bot in the channel
[05:08] <coma> i cant /msg
[05:08] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: I just downloaded that infobash script.  That's a pretty nice script
[05:08] <Hawkwind> coma: Register your nick and you can
[05:08] <coma> how do i do that?
[05:08] <Hawkwind> coma: /msg nickserv help
[05:09] <nalioth> !bot abuse
[05:09] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[05:11] <coma> !/msg nickserv help
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about /msg nickserv help - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <Hawkwind> coma: Leave off the !   just:  /msg nickserv help
[05:11] <coma> : /msg nickserv help
[05:12] <v3ctor>  /msg nickserv help register
[05:12] <v3ctor> to be more specific
[05:12] <Hawkwind> Wow, it's truly not rocket science :P
[05:12] <abattoir> coma: you know the debian-bots are more fun, please go there
[05:12] <v3ctor> eww...keep that science voodoo away from me
[05:13] <abattoir> coma: if you go on doing this, you are going to get kicked and/or banned.
[05:13] <camilo> hi, anyone using the lastest kubuntu 1.4.1 packages ??
[05:13] <abattoir> camilo: you mean amarok?
[05:13] <coma> what im not doing anything wrong?
[05:14] <camilo> yeah, I mean amarok...
[05:14] <camilo> sorry
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> camilo: I am yes (and the progressive techno radio stream seems have been lost :/)
[05:14] <erikson> v3ctor: the easyubuntu worked well, i am now able to play dvds in mplayer
[05:14] <abattoir> coma: 1. playing w/ bots is not encouraged in this channel 2. it is a 'family' channel
[05:14] <boardom> Is there any particular reason why CPAN is completely unable to make in 6.06?
[05:15] <camilo> yeah but now you've the last.fm radio streaming ;)....
[05:15] <coma> ...i stopped playing ages ago and i havnt said anything uncouth?
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> boardom: It takes alot of messing around (and you end up with load of stuff in /usr/local)
[05:15] <camilo> do you know if the pacakages are being built with libnjb (creative nomad) support?
[05:15] <abattoir> coma: please stop it, you have been warned 3~4 times, thank you :)
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> boardom: Thats why I think perl should not be in the base system
[05:15] <boardom> h3sp4wn: solution being?
[05:16] <boardom> h3sp4wn: i'm losing my mind, no gcc, no make, nothing of any actual use
[05:16] <h3sp4wn> boardom: I can't remember - but I did get it working (now using edgy which has perl 5.8.8)
[05:16] <nalioth> coma: please don't fish for factoids in here, you may search the URL the bot gives you
[05:16] <boardom> is it perl 5.8.7 that's broekn? or just the kubuntu implementation of it
[05:16] <h3sp4wn> boardom: Install build-essential and you get make gcc and kernel headers
[05:16] <boardom> cause this is oolish
[05:16] <boardom> ko
[05:17] <coma> abattoir: i stoppped ages ago and havnt said anything unclean.....sorry
[05:17] <h3sp4wn> boardcom: cpan requires the latest stable of version of perl to work properly
[05:17] <boardom> hrmm... so i'd need to edit the repos in adept, to edgy?
[05:17] <boardom> in order to get the update
[05:18] <boardom> i'm so used to perl being easy.. hah
[05:18] <abattoir> coma: i understand, but lots of people come here for help, their messages might get lost amidst the spam... you can always play at #ubuntu-bots / #debian-bots, as long as you dont get kicked there ;)
[05:19] <grizzly> I did "enlightenment --replace" , now enlightenment talks about editing a few startup files. But which one are they?
[05:19] <boardom> h3sp4wn: it was the headers i think... works fine now with 5.8.7perl
[05:19] <boardom> is there any particular logic for not including build-essential in the main install?
[05:20] <boardom> or at least making it a bit more.... apparent that you're installing a crippled system
[05:20] <h3sp4wn> boardom: Try installing the ssh perl modules or something and you will end up with loads of stuff in /usr/local
[05:20] <ranunculoid> Guys how do I format a drive in ext3 from the command line?  What do I use to actually format the drive in ext3?
[05:22] <camilo> to format from the command line you can use mkfs
[05:22] <ranunculoid> Thanks
[05:22] <coma> whatever you do dont ask ubotu
[05:28] <Distro^Junkie> who does the packaging of amarok ?
[05:30] <ranunculoid> I  added this line "/dev/hda4       /home/eamon/Movies           ext3    defaults        0       2" to fstab but when I navigate to the mount point it tells me only root can write to it. I dont understand, it's inside my home folder... How can I get it to work?
[05:30] <Hobbsee> Distro^Junkie: ah, kubuntu developers, kde developers?  why do you ask?
[05:31] <jpatrick> Distro^Junkie: cos he didn't know
[05:31] <jpatrick> oh that was for Hobbsee
[05:31] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: bleh.  get merging :P
[05:32] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: there is nothing to merge
[05:32] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: ahem.  there are still over 300 packages to merge.
[05:32] <teknoprep> hmmm
[05:33] <teknoprep> bunch of noobs
[05:33] <teknoprep> all of you
[05:33] <teknoprep> lol
[05:33] <nixternal> hahah Hobbsee
[05:33] <ubuntu> hallchen
[05:33] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: oh, I was looking at the outstanding list..
[05:33] <nixternal> everybody is a noob, even you
[05:33] <ubuntu> kann mir jemand kurz helfen Kubuntu zu installieren?
[05:33] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: yeah, they just made up "outstanding"
[05:33] <Hobbsee> !de
[05:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:33] <ubuntu> thx
[05:34] <tom-Bar> I have lost this file sources.list.plz send me
[05:34] <ubuntu> /join #kubuntu-de
[05:34] <Hobbsee> !repos > tom-Bar
[05:34] <Distro^Junkie> The following NEW packages will be installed... libexscalibar1 <--- amarok no longer uses this as it was gfor moodbar and its no longer maintained
[05:34] <nixternal> interesting Hobbsee,
[05:34] <nixternal> hehe
[05:34] <Hobbsee> Distro^Junkie: ahh...yes...they axed the moodbar, didnt they?
[05:34] <tom-Bar> ubuntu: why #kubuntu-de?
[05:34] <Distro^Junkie> for*
[05:34] <Distro^Junkie> yep they did
[05:34] <nixternal> he either spammed it, or hit space by mistake
[05:35] <Hobbsee> hit space, most likely
[05:35] <teknoprep> yo
[05:35] <teknoprep> wtf is the any key
[05:35] <teknoprep> i can't find it
[05:36] <osiris> lmao
[05:36] <teknoprep> whats so funny?
[05:36] <Hobbsee> Distro^Junkie: this is dapper?  which repo were you grabbing the packagse from?  kubuntu.org?
[05:37] <osiris> that means press any key.  as in it dont matter what key
[05:37] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: aww, all the kde packs there are boring
[05:37] <teknoprep> w0ot
[05:37] <Distro^Junkie> sorry I realized after I grapped the wrong repo
[05:37] <teknoprep> i got someone to answer me
[05:37] <teknoprep> haha
[05:37] <Distro^Junkie> grabbed*
[05:37] <Hobbsee> Distro^Junkie: ah :)
[05:38] <nixternal> hahahah
[05:39] <Hobbsee> nixternal: :P
[05:39] <nixternal> my IRC tabs in konvo got bigger, so i know what happened ;)
[05:41] <ajay> hello people!
[05:42] <ajay> brrring
[05:42] <v3ctor> hello ajay
[05:43] <Snake> Yo
[05:43] <jpatrick> Snake: Tu
[05:43] <ajay> hi v3ctor
[05:43] <ajay> hi Snake
[05:44] <Snake> jpatrick: whats goin down dawg
[05:44] <Snake> :P
[05:44] <jpatrick> Snake: not alot
[05:44] <erikson> hi ajay, Snake, jpatrick
[05:44] <Snake> sweet sweet
[05:44] <Snake> hi #kubuntu
[05:44] <Snake> :)
[05:44] <Snake> There that covers everyone
[05:44] <erikson> Snake <---lazy
[05:45] <Snake> erikson: You know it :)
[05:45] <Snake> im the kinda guy who rm -r *.jpg instead of deleting every one by hand ya kno
[05:45] <Snake> :P
[05:46] <erikson> gonna try burning a video as soon as it DLs...that will be the test whether i keep kubuntu or not
[05:47] <erikson> so far kubuntu seems to be the mosy complete linux distro I've used , program and support wise :)
[05:48] <ajay> erikson: yup
[05:48] <jpatrick> Snake: but then again you like doing "sudo rm -rf /"
[05:49] <erikson> I tried pclinuxos and it was really error prone ...especially synaptic,... and wasn't compatible with some of my hardware , and the ppl in the support chat had  attitude
[05:50] <Snake> jpatrick: And I lloved every minute of it :P
[05:50] <Snake> erikson: make sure you use K3B :)
[05:50] <Snake> <3<3<3 that program
[05:50] <erikson> yup ,will do Snake
[05:50] <ajay> erikson: why what happened?
[05:51] <ajay> pclos is not that bad
[05:51] <ajay> especially the mini edition
[05:51] <ajay> .93
[05:51] <Snake> pclos has one feature that absoultly rocks my sox.
[05:51] <Snake> The build live CD
[05:51] <ajay> Snake: :)
[05:51] <Snake> I LOVE that
[05:51] <erikson> I tried the 8500up vers , since my vid card is an elcheapo onboard ati xpress 200
[05:52] <teknoprep> man i notice alot of bugs with KDE
[05:52] <teknoprep> shit just crashes for no reason
[05:52] <teknoprep> WTF
[05:52] <teknoprep> gnome does not do this crap
[05:52] <erikson> well all their distros are live cds now anyway
[05:52] <Snake> ajay: given what your saying about pclos, I presume you know your way around the distro?
[05:52] <Snake> teknoprep: then go back to gnome? :)
[05:52] <teknoprep> lol
[05:53] <teknoprep> can i just install gnome on kubuntu?
[05:53] <ajay> well guys i have tried all the distro on the distrowatch list
[05:53] <ajay> and have been using linux for 5 yrs
[05:53] <teknoprep> what sudo apt-get install gnome ?
[05:53] <Snake> teknoprep: sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[05:53] <teknoprep> or is there a way to get ubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <Snake> You could get sudo apt-get installubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <ajay> Snake: yup i know my way :)
[05:53] <Snake> as well
[05:54] <erikson> same here ajay but I still consider myself a linux noob in many ways
[05:54] <ajay> erikson: yeah true
[05:54] <teknoprep> .
[05:54] <teknoprep> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:54] <teknoprep>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: libglib2.0-data but it is not going to be installe
[05:54] <ajay> erikson: i had been using gentoo for 3 yrs :)
[05:54] <teknoprep> non linux noob
[05:54] <ajay> btw i am still 16 ;)
[05:54] <teknoprep> i am a linux desktop nubcake
[05:54] <Snake> ajay: Have you ever seen like, an OS that has the mklivecd function, but is completly stripped like, to the bone? I want to make my own specialize live CDs, and the closest I could get to a stripped one was the amarok live :(
[05:54] <ajay> teknoprep: lol
[05:54] <teknoprep> i never used a gui on linux before
[05:55] <Snake> ajay: I just want it to be like default KDE, and drivers, pretty much
[05:55] <erikson> ooooh gentoo...  Ive been looking for it
[05:55] <v3ctor> teknoprep: or when you try to install it on sparc system
[05:56] <teknoprep> so ifyou have horror stories or are talking to a person with them.. they are a complete idiot and you shouldn't listen to them anymore
[05:56] <teknoprep> sparc LOL
[05:56] <erikson> rocks ajay , how ?
[05:56] <ajay> i and 3 other guys are making a distro that will showcase every spaking new techonology from linux world like grid, cluster, ltsp and stuff
[05:56] <teknoprep> yeah i'll stick to my x86 systems
[05:56] <ajay> anyone interestedto participate
[05:56] <teknoprep> i work for a bank and we don't use anything but x86
[05:56] <teknoprep> and mainframe
[05:56] <jpatrick> erikson: so you've gone from football to linux? cool
[05:56] <ajay> erikson: every way, u can make it the way u want
[05:56] <v3ctor> i prefer the tried and true 64bit systems
[05:56] <teknoprep> 64bit isn't tried and true
[05:56] <v3ctor> um
[05:56] <v3ctor> yes
[05:56] <ajay> no one for my proposal?
[05:57] <Snake> LOL TRIED AND TRUE!?
[05:57] <Snake> ajay: If I knew linux better I would help :)
[05:57] <v3ctor> been used in production systems since like 93
[05:57] <Snake> ajay: but atm im pretty worthless :P
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> Snake: I will try and find it again
[05:57] <teknoprep> ajay what do you want?
[05:57] <ajay> Snake: well man u will learn a lot while making it ;)
[05:57] <ajay> teknoprep: scroll up buddy!
[05:57] <teknoprep> no
[05:57] <Snake> v3ctor: if 64 bit is tried and true, what is x86??
[05:57] <ajay> teknoprep: no scroll up or particiapte no?
[05:58] <v3ctor> x86 is for desktop toys
[05:58] <teknoprep> why make a linux distro?
[05:58] <teknoprep> what is your core going to be?
[05:58] <teknoprep> redhat? debian?
[05:58] <ajay> teknoprep: debian or gentoo
[05:58] <teknoprep> plus linux clustering sucks
[05:58] <teknoprep> solaris and bsd have better cluster solutions
[05:58] <Snake> bsd *twitch*
[05:58] <teknoprep> bsd OWNS YOU
[05:58] <erikson> v3ctor: I tried the dapper 64 bit version ...lotta stuff won't work on it , so I switched to the 32 bit and so far all the progs that were giving me trouble are working very well '
[05:58] <teknoprep> as a server you can't beat it
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> Not really there are plenty of high performance linux based clusters
[05:59] <teknoprep> especially obsd
[05:59] <Snake> teknoprep: indeed it does, I couldnt even get FreeBSD To install, and this coming from a guy who got gento to work :P
[05:59] <teknoprep> ok i want you to load balance 2 firewalls with iptables
[05:59] <v3ctor> erikson: sorry...don't confuse 64bit systems with the sorry intel-based stuff that has recently come out
[05:59] <teknoprep> go ahead .. doit for free with open source
[05:59] <afm\colo> teknoprep: oh really? that's why all the ppl i know use linux-ha and drbd and stuff for clustering, right? :>
[05:59] <afm\colo> in fields where they LIKE going proprietary
[05:59] <afm\colo> but can't do with GNU/Linux
[05:59] <teknoprep> afm\colo: exactly
[06:00] <teknoprep> afm\colo: you can't use any opensource technology to cluster 2 linux iptables firewalls
[06:00] <teknoprep> there is nothing to sync up the connection tracking tables
[06:00] <erikson>  v3ctor, AMD64 CPU here , so I tried dapper 64 bit thinking it would run better ...I was wrong
[06:00] <teknoprep> no with PF you can use PFSYNC
[06:00] <teknoprep> capr
[06:00] <teknoprep> carp even
[06:00] <teknoprep> bang you have load balancing firewalls
[06:01] <v3ctor> erikson: real chip makers have t least 10 years more 64bit experience than  intel/amd
[06:01] <v3ctor> h3sp4wn: you can get them much cheaper than that
[06:01] <afm\colo> v3ctor: oh please, Intel is the single most important "chipmaker" in the world
[06:01] <v3ctor> lol
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> v3ctor: I want 2 dual core opterons
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: thats like saying... microsoft is the single most important software developer becuase the produce the most software
[06:02] <erikson> v3ctor: whaddya mean?
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: intel is the most important becuase they make the chips?
[06:02] <v3ctor> afm\colo: if that is true then why do the most important servers in the wolrd not use thier chips :p
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> v3ctor: Should last me ten years (with sun's build quality which I like)
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: yeah ok
[06:02] <ajay> gus tell me a link to paste text
[06:02] <ajay> pastebin sucks
[06:02] <v3ctor> i want  the 8 core niagra chip
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: actually MainFrame has been doing it better and longer then any of these companies
[06:02] <afm\colo> v3ctor: if you'd actually take a look at market share for enterprise grade computing
[06:02] <teknoprep> afm\colo: 99% of the banks all over the world don't trust Intel / MS / Unix... they trust MainFrame
[06:02] <afm\colo> you'd notice that intel has the lead there as well
[06:03] <afm\colo> AMD is catching up
[06:03] <teknoprep> afm\colo: take your statement and shove it now , ok?
[06:03] <ajay> any link to paste text
[06:03] <ajay> brring?
[06:03] <afm\colo> rafb.net/paste
[06:03] <v3ctor> afm\colo: they don't count real chips in that survey then
[06:03] <abattoir> !paste
[06:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> teknoprep: The only bank I have ever worked for was nearly all sun
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> v3ctor: And sybase
[06:03] <afm\colo> teknoprep: mainframe computing is a whole different field of operation than "ordinary" computing stuff
[06:03] <teknoprep> h3sp4wn: what bank?
[06:04] <teknoprep> h3sp4wn: and they probably ran mini-mainframe which runs on solaris
[06:04] <erikson> what's solaris like , anyone here everused it ?
[06:04] <v3ctor> i use it daily
[06:04] <v3ctor> it is awsome
[06:04] <afm\colo> i've used SunOS 5.8
[06:04] <teknoprep> erikson: it owns.. get opensolaris to try it out
[06:05] <afm\colo> the userland just sucks
[06:05] <afm\colo> gimme GNu any time
[06:05] <v3ctor> 8 sucked for user
[06:05] <afm\colo> s/u/U/
[06:05] <teknoprep> afm\colo:  not if you are used to it
[06:05] <v3ctor> 9 and higher are much better for useland
[06:05] <ajayc> teknoprep: got pm?
[06:05] <erikson> can I put it on a seperate partition, with linux and windows ?
[06:06] <v3ctor> 9 has a large set of GNu tools
[06:06] <teknoprep> yeah wtf?
[06:06] <teknoprep> STOP IT
[06:06] <teknoprep> omfg wtf
[06:06] <ajayc> teknoprep: stop wat i pasted the whole thing :)
[06:08] <Skrot> ~dualhead
[06:08] <teknoprep> you pasted it twice lol
[06:08] <Skrot> Anyone know of a good (k)ubuntu dualhead howto?
[06:09] <teknoprep> hmm
[06:09] <ajayc> anyone wanna read the philosophy of the distro i am making?
[06:09] <teknoprep> its pretty much self explantory
[06:09] <teknoprep> goto system settings
[06:09] <teknoprep> click display
[06:10] <teknoprep> enter adminitor mode
[06:10] <teknoprep> and doit
[06:10] <teknoprep> its in the hardware section
[06:12] <teknoprep> hmm
[06:13] <Cntryboy> last night I compiled f4l, does it put the binary file in the bin folder with in the folders I first gzip2 the file to?
[06:14] <teknoprep> hmm
[06:14] <teknoprep> this sucks
[06:14] <teknoprep> i can't install ubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <teknoprep> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:14] <teknoprep>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: libglib2.0-data but it is not going to be installed
[06:14] <corin> abattoir or crimsun?  anybody here?
[06:16] <richardh_> Hi...anyone else have problems with cdrecord within K3b on dapper?
[06:17] <teknoprep> nope
[06:17] <teknoprep> k3b owns
[06:17] <teknoprep> hey
[06:18] <teknoprep> how the f do i install ubuntu-desktop?
[06:18] <richardh_> I used the setup program to distrbute the necessary rights, but cdrecord still doesn't allow me to burn
[06:18] <teknoprep> i am in kubuntu
[06:18] <ColonelKernel> easy
[06:18] <ColonelKernel> insert livecd,
[06:18] <ColonelKernel> click the install icon on desktop
[06:19] <ColonelKernel> did that help teknoprep?
[06:19] <Cntryboy> Anyone ever use f4l?
[06:19] <Hawkwind> teknoprep: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> or that :D
[06:20] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: sound works?
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> no
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> not even a bloop
[06:20] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: open up kmix again
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> mmkay
[06:20] <ColonelKernel> its open
[06:21] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: someone was here earlier today; when he enabled input options, his sound started working...
[06:21] <ColonelKernel> i ok all of them?
[06:21] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: make sure all the light in all the tabs are on, and the sliders are full ;)
[06:21] <ColonelKernel> it won't let me! when i click "CD" line is not lighted
[06:22] <ColonelKernel> wait red or green lights
[06:22] <ColonelKernel> sorry
[06:22] <abattoir> red is generally for recording(input) green is when the input is played out in your speakers..
[06:23] <ColonelKernel> ok. all are enabled and turned up
[06:23] <Cntryboy> hrmmm
[06:23] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: try playing something 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*.wav'
[06:24] <ColonelKernel> attempted, no sound :(
[06:25] <qwertybob> can i change my processor to amd 64 and still run my kubuntu32 installed?
[06:25] <Sikon> yes
[06:25] <boardom> Assuming for the second i'm an idiot... how would I go about getting the most recent version of clamav (is there an unstable repos)?
[06:25] <ColonelKernel> should be able to, as 32 is compatible with 64 bit processor...
[06:25] <Sikon> I'm running kubuntu-i386 on an Athlon 64 riht now
[06:26] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: what now?
[06:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok, i've run out of ideas... maybe time to experiment...
[06:26] <ColonelKernel> oh goody...
[06:26] <qwertybob> Sikon: great, maybe you can help me, My nvidia seems to no longer work now, vesa does not at all
[06:26] <ColonelKernel> anything :D
[06:26] <Sikon> qwertybob> did you install the proprietary NVIDIA driver?
[06:26] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: aah, ok...in the output tab, switch everything off, then switch only wave one, see if it plays
[06:26] <qwertybob> Sikon: somehwow the new mobo and chip casued some problem
[06:26] <Hawkwind> boardom: If you have multiverse and universe listed as sources, then sudo apt-get install clamav will get you the latest version
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> not master right?
[06:27] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: then switch on master... see if it plays
[06:27] <Sikon> my problem is, I installed Xgl/Compiz and it works fine, but the Show Desktop button no longer works
[06:27] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, first
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> ok
[06:27] <qwertybob> Sikon: everything was working when i had the old mobo with amd 32
[06:27] <Sikon> (I use compiz-gnome with KDE because compiz-kde doesn't work properly)
[06:27] <boardom> Hawkwind: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> i don't see wave
[06:27] <ColonelKernel> odd
[06:27] <boardom> Hawkwind: so that should get me most recent ver?
[06:27] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: try experimenting, switch one off, swith the other on... sorry might just be a wild-goose chase
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> lol
[06:28] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: brb, dinner :)
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> i'll give it s go
[06:28] <qwertybob> Sikon: i tried reconfigure x dpkg
[06:28] <teknoprep> hmmm
[06:28] <teknoprep> anyone on the idea
[06:28] <teknoprep> why can't i install ubuntu-desktop
[06:28] <teknoprep> i have a dependicy error
[06:28] <qwertybob> Sikon: should i boot into rescue mode maybe
[06:28] <qwertybob> im running zenwalk live just now
[06:29] <Sikon> qwertybob> what exactly doesn't work? does X start at all?
[06:30] <qwertybob> Sikon: it starts but there are big white spaces, cant see well
[06:30] <Sikon> are you starting pure X or GNOME/KDE?
[06:30] <qwertybob> Sikon: changing to vesa, gives no screens found
[06:30] <Sikon> and can I have a screenshot?
[06:30] <anders_> how do i install: GEDIT ?
[06:31] <Sikon> the driver in xorg.conf is currently "nvidia"?
[06:31] <qwertybob> Sikon: im starting kde,
[06:31] <fre1> anders_: try 'sudo apt-get install gedit' in a terminal
[06:31] <qwertybob> sorry not sure if your talking to me
[06:31] <Sikon> qwertybob> yes, to you
[06:32] <Sikon> you say you tried to change the driver to vesa, but what was it before?
[06:32] <qwertybob> Sikon: im in zenlive casue i cant work in kubutu
[06:32] <qwertybob> Sikon: before it was nvidia all worked on 6600 gt
[06:32] <Sikon> try changing it to nv
[06:32] <ColonelKernel> !info wolfenstein
[06:32] <ubotu> Package wolfenstein does not exist in dapper
[06:32] <ColonelKernel> !info wolfenstein-enemy-territory
[06:32] <ubotu> Package wolfenstein-enemy-territory does not exist in dapper
[06:32] <Sikon> it's a built-in X driver with no hardware acceleration
[06:32] <anders_> fre1: it still not work
[06:32] <qwertybob> Sikon: i did that , no screens found, its the same as vesa
[06:32] <ColonelKernel> damn
[06:32] <Sikon> hmm
[06:33] <Sikon> can you photo the screen with the "big white spaces"?
[06:33] <qwertybob> Sikon: im thinking of reinstalling the nvidia stuff
[06:34] <qwertybob> Sikon: i changed the mobo and the cpu to a  AMD sempron 64
[06:34] <fre1> q. is there a faq explaining how to get help ? like providing information. describing the problem with precision and accuracy as much as possible, etc.. ?
[06:34] <Sikon> yes, you can try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver
[06:34] <qwertybob> Sikon: thanks anyway, im going to rescue mode, reinstall everything graphic, reconfigure
[06:34] <fre1> something i could point people when they tell me 'it doesnt work' and nothing more :)
[06:35] <Sikon> rescue mode?
[06:35] <fre1> anders_: providing more info would help you getting more help
[06:35] <qwertybob> Sikon: in kubuntu yes
[06:35] <Sikon> meh, why can't you just switch to a console and kill X?
[06:35] <qwertybob> Sikon: i can do that i guess
[06:35] <anders_> I just did the update
[06:35] <qwertybob> just want to be sure its clean
[06:35] <anders_> but when i shall download gedit it says
[06:35] <anders_> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[06:36] <Sikon> did you run it as root?
[06:36] <anders_> yes!
[06:36] <Sikon> sudo, I mean
[06:36] <Sikon> hmm, strange
[06:36] <ColonelKernel> is a .run file an installer in linux?
[06:36] <anders_> ops (a) i had a synaptic :O
[06:38] <claudio_> ciao
[06:38] <claudio_> a tutti
[06:39] <claudio_> italiani???
[06:39] <gnomefreak> !it
[06:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:39] <teknoprep> OMFG
[06:39] <teknoprep> does anyone else have this problem.. where they can't install apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:40] <ColonelKernel> nope... i just have no bloody sound
[06:40] <teknoprep> is there like a deny list for apt-get ?
[06:42] <teknoprep> dpkg -l libglib*
[06:42] <teknoprep> shows
[06:42] <teknoprep> un  libglib2.0-data    <none>             (no description available)
[06:42] <teknoprep> wtf is the un?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> not installed )man dpkg)
[06:42] <gnomefreak> (man dpkg)
[06:43] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: install it
[06:43] <teknoprep> cn't
[06:43] <teknoprep> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:43] <teknoprep>   libglib2.0-data: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:43] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: sudo apt-get -f install   <<< type that only
[06:44] <teknoprep> nothing fixed
[06:44] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: what does uname -r say
[06:45] <teknoprep> 2.6.15-26-386
[06:46] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: get the lib from packages.ubuntu.com
[06:46] <teknoprep> hmmm
[06:46] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: back yet?
[06:46] <teknoprep> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:46] <teknoprep> ?
[06:46] <gnomefreak> yes
[06:47] <ColonelKernel> anyone tell me how to install a .run file? all it does is open up in Kate
[06:47] <Chousuke> run it with sh
[06:47] <Chousuke> in terminal
[06:48] <ColonelKernel> ok
[06:48] <Chousuke> "sh whatever.run"
[06:48] <ColonelKernel> with the directory?
[06:49] <Chousuke> doesn't matter, as long as it finds the file.
[06:49] <ColonelKernel> i got some kinda error
[06:50] <ColonelKernel> shared libraries?
[06:50] <teknoprep> YAY
[06:50] <teknoprep> its installing
[06:50] <teknoprep> w0ot
[06:50] <teknoprep> lol
[06:51] <ColonelKernel> lol
[06:51] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: back fromdinner yet?
[06:51] <BlankB> !xen
[06:51] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation.  Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:52] <ColonelKernel> !de
[06:52] <teknoprep> ksg
[06:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:53] <teknoprep> ksh even
[06:53] <teknoprep> tsh even
[06:53] <ColonelKernel> df
[06:53] <ColonelKernel> oops
[06:55] <fre1> about xen, what is this 'Intel VTX hardware' they are talking about ?
[06:55] <fre1> how do you check you got this or not ?
[06:55] <teknoprep> hmmm
[06:58] <mrbojanglie> hey, just curious if there are any good kde modifications (for convenience/usability etc)
[06:59] <Admiral_proFTW> i dont know if its much of a mod, but I like Katapult
[06:59] <teknoprep> omfg
[06:59] <ColonelKernel> !amarok
[06:59] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[06:59] <teknoprep> this is nice now
[07:00] <Admiral_proFTW> they released a new verison?
[07:00] <ColonelKernel> anybody know how to fix sound on SiS SI7012?
[07:01] <Admiral_proFTW> mrbojanglie, check out Katapult, its very useful
[07:01] <fre1> yep good stuff
[07:05] <jc-denton> hi all
[07:05] <jc-denton> can i use xgl with kubuntu/kde?
[07:05] <ColonelKernel> hey
[07:06] <Admiral_proFTW> jc-denton, i think you can
[07:06] <omeow> I SPEEL MY DRINK
[07:06] <jc-denton> it will work similar to gnome
[07:07] <jc-denton> is there a howto for it?
[07:08] <Admiral_proFTW> I don't know, I haven't used it
[07:08] <ColonelKernel> anybody know why my sound doesn't work?
[07:08] <Admiral_proFTW> !xgl