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[12:42] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, src:dhcpd is replacing src:dhcpd5, can we do the magic?
[12:42] <LocutusOfBorg> autopkgtest for dhcpcd5/unknown: amd64: Regression ♻ , arm64: Regression ♻ , armhf: Regression ♻ , i386: Not a regression, ppc64el: Regression ♻ , s390x: Regression ♻
[14:07] <rbasak> jbicha: how would you prefer me to release the mutter and gnome-shell SRUs in Lunar? Both at once? Or mutter first and wait for phasing before gnome-shell? Or something else?
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[15:11] <schopin> xypron: I think you have the wrong target branch for your ubuntu-meta MP. Also, have you discussed this with anyone on the Release Team? This sounds like it could have consequences wrt image generation.
[16:02] <falcojr> rbasak: as part of my upload rights, I need additional review for anything packaging related. Is it best to just ping you (or somebody else) here when needed? We recently made this change in the cloud-init packaging that I would like to upload soon (the changelog has since changed) along with an upstream snapshot
[16:02] <falcojr> https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/4264/files
[16:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Pull 4264 in canonical/cloud-init "Ubuntu/devel: Remove unused NetworkManager hook and include python3-passlib" [Merged]
[16:08] <rbasak> falcojr: good question. I think just pinging me would become a bottleneck :-/
[16:08] <rbasak> falcojr: the general sponsorship queue might be better, but you'd need to explain that you need a core dev reviewer even though you have ACL to upload yourself.
[16:08] <rbasak> falcojr: how does that sound to you?
[16:10] <falcojr> works for me
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[19:37] <xypron> schopin: We don't spin any desktop images for riscv64. Where do you expect an impact on riscv64 images when providing an ubuntu-desktop package in Jammy?
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[21:49] <tsimonq2_ephemer> I was able to progress LXQt 1.3 slightly further; we're waiting on libfm-qt 1.3 to pass binary NEW before I can upload more.
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[21:54] <tsimonq2_ephemer> Somewhere down the line, this cycle or next, we'll be uploading LXQt 2 as well. I'm half tempted to start uploading source NEW, which is going to look very similar to existing LXQt packages (but also haven't dismissed the idea of multiple binaries from the same source, if possible).
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[14:01] <dipankar> lfaraone, please ping
[14:02] <lfaraone> dipankar: yessir?
[14:02] <dipankar> Sir.. :P
[14:03] <dfarning> thanks guys, this channel is logged so if any one else has the same questions we can refer them back to the logs.
[14:03] <dipankar> Well dfarning and lfaraone , like I was saying , should we revert back to s-p-s 0.88.0 on ppa
[14:04] <lfaraone> I said you could do it, tell other people on the mailing list the workaround, and if other users have problems implement to more difficult solution.
[14:05] <dipankar> ok lfaraone I am on it. I will delete the existing package once I am ready with the new one. But I don't have the last unedited 's-p-s' package from ppa
[14:06] <dipankar> i.e. the oldest that I have is the one in which neeraj made the new upstream release
[14:06] <lfaraone> dipankar: no worries, just use jonas's. or don't put one at all in there if the one in the Ubuntu archive works.
[14:07] <dipankar> lfaraone, what about the copyrights and the debian folder?
[14:08] <lfaraone> dipankar: run 'debcheckout sugar-presence-service-0.88' and you should have the copy of the package as it is in Debian.
[14:08] <lfaraone> dipankar: which includes debian/* etc.
[14:09] <dipankar> lfaraone, thanks a lot. I will start working on it. Just in case I get the same error of '.orig' file..
[14:10] <lfaraone> well, then you need to download t he upstream tarball with "debian/rules get-orig-source" or "uscan --force-download --rename"
[14:11] <dipankar> ok..
[14:13] <dipankar> btw lfaraone , I guess you are here for sometime. I will try to work things out as quickly as possible
[14:13] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay
[14:25] <dipankar> okay lfaraone , I have copied the debian folder into the source tree of the directory
[14:25] <dipankar> Now I have to make changes in the changelog and control files
[14:27] <lfaraone> dipankar: what changes need to be made? you already have 0.88.0-1 from debcheckout.
[14:28] <dipankar> lfaraone, It was in my documentation to change those files. It not required then I will leave it blank
[14:29] <dipankar> * it -> If
[14:29] <lfaraone> dipankar: well, you usually only change them if you are making other... changes.
[14:29] <dipankar> Got it like patching, lfaraone ?
[14:30] <lfaraone> dipankar: exactly.
[14:30] <dipankar> lfaraone, I also think I don't have to use the command "debian/rules get-orig-source" or "uscan --force-download --rename" to get the rules file
[14:31] <dipankar> 'cause that is already there in the debian folder.
[14:31] <lfaraone> dipankar: those commands get the upstream tarball, not the rules fule.
[14:32] <lfaraone> *file
[14:32] <dipankar> oops..
[14:32] <dipankar> sorry
[14:32] <lfaraone> dipankar: although if you're using the git repository, it already should have information on how to recreate the tarball internally.
[14:32] <lfaraone> dipankar: when using git, you use "git-buildpackage" rather than "debuild" so it handles that for you.
[14:33] <lfaraone> dipankar: not a problem.
[14:34] <dipankar> lfaraone, that means if I use 'git-buildpackage' then I don't have to bother about the .orig file being present or not..
[14:34] <dipankar> unlike debuild
[14:35] <lfaraone> dipankar: in this case, yes.
[14:35] <dipankar> Ok
[14:35] <lfaraone> (if I recall correctly)
[14:36] <lfaraone> dipankar: but that only works for packages that are maintained in git, and only if the tarball was imported before at some point. which is probably the case here. if it weren't, and you got the same message warning about a missing orig.tar.bz2, you'd still have to download it as indicated previously.
[14:38] <dipankar> hmm... ok lfaraone
[14:38] <lfaraone> dipankar: confusing enough for you? :D
[14:39] <dipankar> lfaraone, you got that buddy..
[14:39] <dipankar> I was gonna compress the package that I downloaded from the debian using 'debcheckout' to a .orig file
[14:40] <dipankar> 'cause I got it in a directory/uncompressed form
[14:41] <dipankar> lfaraone, shall proceed like I said above?
[14:43] <lfaraone> dipankar: you mean to an .orig.tar.bz2 file? no.
[14:43] <dipankar> nope.. to a .orig.tar.gz..
[14:44] <lfaraone> dipankar: you usually don't create the original upstream tarball (the .orig.tar.{bz2, gz, lzma} file), you use the one provided *upstream*.
[14:44] <dipankar> because I am having only a source tar ball named 'sugar-presence-service-0.88.0.tar.bz2'
[14:44] <lfaraone> dipankar: the orig is supposed to be te unmodified source from the people who release the software.
[14:44] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay, you downloaded that from the sugarlabs site, right?
[14:45] <dipankar> Ohk.. That means it should not have the debian folder
[14:45] <dipankar> @ your question: yes
[14:45] <lfaraone> dipankar: it means you shouldn't create it yourself. :)
[14:45] <dipankar> :P
[14:45] <lfaraone> dipankar: just rename sugar-presence-service-0.88.0.tar.bz2 to sugar-presence-service-0.88_0.88.0.orig.tar.bz2 or whatever it is supposed to be called.
[14:46] <lfaraone> dipankar: the Debian build process will accept an orig.tar.* in bz2, gz, and lzma formats. Since Sugar Labs uses bz2 upstream, we're keeping it with a terminal ".bz2" at the end.
[14:46] <dipankar> ok.. Also should that be kept in the directory where I am making the package?
[14:47] <lfaraone> the orig.tar.* should be in the directiory above the directory that contains the debian/ folder and the unpacked sources.
[14:48] <dipankar> just to cross check I have the following lines in the rule file now:
[14:48] <dipankar> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/upstream-tarball.mk
[14:48] <dipankar> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/utils.mk
[14:48] <dipankar> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/python-autotools.mk
[14:48] <dipankar> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk
[14:49] <lfaraone> dipankar: yes.
[14:51] <lfaraone> dipankar: here's an example of what my directory tree looks like: http://sprunge.us/SbRK
[14:51] <lfaraone> dipankar: this is for another package, but the idea is the same.
[14:51] <lfaraone> dipankar: (ignore the "-> ..." and the last line, that's just to save space on my disk)
[14:56] <dipankar> ok lfaraone, that was helpful. But I guess the '.debian.tar.gz' and '.tar.gz' will be generated after building the package.
[14:57] <lfaraone> dipankar: that is correct.
[15:00] <dipankar> lfaraone, building package using command git-buildpackage
[15:01] <dipankar> oops.. have to install it first. :)
[15:02] <dipankar> lfaraone, I am getting this error msg : /home/dipankar/work9/sugar-presence-service-0.88.0 is not a git repository
[15:03] <lfaraone> dipankar: are yoi in the directory that contains the debian/ directory?
[15:03] <dipankar> yes
[15:04] <lfaraone> dipankar: what does "ls .git" tell you?
[15:04] <dipankar> lfaraone, here is the o/p: ls: cannot access .git: No such file or directory
[15:05] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay. so this isn't the directory that was created with debcheckout, right?
[15:05] <dipankar> no.. that I downloaded somewhere else
[15:06] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay. git-buildpackage only works in the directories that contain git repositories. I thought you were working in that directory...
[15:06] <lfaraone> cd into that one and run "git-buildpackage"
[15:08] <dipankar> ok lfaraone, now I can run the command.. but i get the following o/p:
[15:09] <dipankar> test -x debian/rules
[15:09] <dipankar> dh_testroot
[15:09] <dipankar> rmdir build
[15:09] <dipankar> rmdir: failed to remove `build': No such file or directory
[15:09] <dipankar> make: [cleanbuilddir] Error 1 (ignored)
[15:09] <dipankar> rm -f debian/stamp-makefile-build debian/stamp-makefile-install
[15:09] <dipankar> /usr/bin/make  -C build  -k distclean
[15:09] <dipankar> make: *** build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[15:09] <dipankar> make: [makefile-clean] Error 2 (ignored)
[15:09] <dipankar> rm -f debian/stamp-makefile-check
[15:09] <dipankar> rm -f debian/stamp-autotools
[15:09] <dipankar> rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty build
[15:09] <dipankar> rmdir: failed to remove `build': No such file or directory
[15:09] <dipankar> make: [makefile-clean] Error 1 (ignored)
[15:09] <dipankar> rm -f debian/cdbs-install-list debian/cdbs-package-list debian/stamp-copyright-check debian/stamp-buildinfo
[15:09] <dipankar> rm -f debian/stamp-autotools-files
[15:09] <dipankar> dh_clean
[15:09] <lfaraone> dipankar: please don't paste into the channel. use something like http://paste.ubuntu.com so it's readable :)
[15:09] <dipankar> Pristine-tar branch "pristine-tar" not found
[15:09] <dipankar> pristine-tar: successfully generated /home/dipankar/sugar-presence-service-0.88_0.88.0.orig.tar.bz2
[15:09] <dipankar>  dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc -i -I
[15:09] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: set CFLAGS to default value: -g -O2
[15:09] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: set CPPFLAGS to default value:
[15:09] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: set LDFLAGS to default value: -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions
[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: set FFLAGS to default value: -g -O2
[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: set CXXFLAGS to default value: -g -O2
[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: source package sugar-presence-service-0.88
[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.88.0-1
[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Jonas Smedegaard<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture i386
[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: dh-buildinfo
[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.
[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)
[15:10] <dipankar> debuild: fatal error at line 1340:
[15:10] <dipankar> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc -i -I failed
[15:10] <dipankar> debuild -i -I returned 29
[15:10] <dipankar> Couldn't run 'debuild -i -I'
[15:10] <dipankar> oops..
[15:10] <dipankar> won't happen again
[15:10] <lfaraone> dipankar: no worries, it's just messy.
[15:11] <lfaraone> dipankar: the "Unmet build dependencies" line means that there are some packages needed to build the s-p-s package that you are missing.
[15:11] <dipankar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/454471/
[15:11] <dfarning> dipankar, are you familar with git?
[15:11] <lfaraone> dipankar: to fix that, run "sudo apt-get install PACKAGE_NAME". In this case, "sudo apt-get install  dh-buildinfo"
[15:12] <dipankar> sorry lfaraone, i have never used git
[15:12] <dfarning> it is very useful.... but really confusing (at first) source code management system.
[15:13] <dipankar> I have always built packages using 'debuild'
[15:14] <dfarning> dipankar, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software) is a good introductory link.
[15:14] <dipankar> lfaraone, done : sudo .. dh-buildinfo
[15:18] <dipankar> lfaraone, dfarning, now git-buildpackage in running but it is not completing. Error: gpg: /tmp/debsign.L9VUNP6g/sugar-presence-service-0.88_0.88.0-1.dsc: clearsign failed: secret key not available
[15:19] <lfaraone> dipankar: that is just because you're building a package without modifying it.
[15:19] <dipankar> I guess the maintainer name has to do something with this error..
[15:19] <dipankar> in the control file
[15:20] <lfaraone> dipankar: you can ignore that for now, and sign the file manually with "debsign -k<Your GPG Key ID Here> <Path To File To Sign>"
[15:20] <dipankar> lfaraone, not that thing..
[15:25] <dipankar> lfaraone, its not working
[15:25] <dipankar> debsign: Only a .changes, .dsc or .commands file is allowed as argument!
[15:26] <dipankar> oops.. lfaraone I was leaving a flag
[15:27] <dipankar> -k
[15:27] <dipankar> which all files are to be signed??
[15:27] <dipankar> .changes, .dsc and .commands??
[15:28] <dipankar> dfarning, are you there?
[15:28] <lfaraone> dipankar: well, if you sign the .changes file it'll also sign the .dsc file.
[15:28] <lfaraone> dipankar: .commands is not relevant for our purposes.
[15:28] <dfarning> dipankar, yes
[15:28] <dipankar> ok.. got it
[15:29] <lfaraone> dipankar: you don't need to sign the .changes file until we're getting ready to upload.
[15:29] <lfaraone> dipankar:  I usually like to test the .deb first on my local system to confirm that it is functional.
[15:29] <dipankar> dfarning, i thought I got disconnected.. thats why pinged you.. :)
[15:29] <lfaraone> dipankar: then you do a source build with "git-buildpackage -S" (like when you did "debuild -S"), sign the resulting sugar-presence-service-0.88_0.88.0-1_source.changes and dsc, and dput the changes.
[15:30] <dipankar> ok.. lfaraone.. Test before you upload..
[15:30] <dipankar> I will remember that
[15:31] <dfarning> dipankar, I think lfaraone is also helping jussi with some channel admin stuff that I did not understand:)
[15:31] <dipankar> ok dfarning. Got it..
[15:31] <jussi> yeah, Im just waiting on one command
[15:31] <dipankar> hi jussi
[15:32] <jussi> hi dipankar
[15:32] <lfaraone> dfarning: I'm not a founder for #ubuntu-sugarteam, but you, dogi, jelkner, and morgs are.
[15:32] <lfaraone> dfarning: so you'd have to run that.
[15:35] <dipankar> hey lfaraone, dfarning. I removed the existing sugar-presence-service from my computer and installed it again from the .deb I just created. The problem is still occuring
[15:36] <lfaraone> dipankar: use "file-roller sugar-presence-service-0.88_0.88.0-1_all.deb" , look in "data", and tell me what's inside the "usr" folder.
[15:37] <lfaraone> dipankar: when I attempted the above, I have "usr/share/[...]" and a "usr/bin/sugar-presence-service" file
[15:38] <dipankar> The file is EMPTY!!
[15:39] <lfaraone> dipankar: hm?
[15:39] <dipankar> Let me try installing again lfaraone
[15:41] <dipankar> still the same lfaraone
[15:42] <lfaraone> dipankar: so when you do the following sequenece of commands you encounter the same problem? "cd `mktemp -d`; debcheckout sugar-presence-service-0.88; cd sugar-presence-service-0.88; git-buildpackage; cd ../; sudo dpkg -i sugar-presence-service-0.88_0.88.0-1_all.deb"
[15:42] <lfaraone> dipankar: copy and paste that into your terminal.
[15:48] <dipankar> lfaraone, done.. but I am now at different working dir : dipankar@dipankar-laptop:/tmp/tmp.OlNS6Lu9GU$
[15:50] <dipankar> hey lfaraone, I have to go somewhere.. how about I meet you in 20-25 minutes?
[15:50] <lfaraone> dipankar: no worries. I might be AFK by that point, though.
[15:51] <dipankar> Oh yeah.. So what to do after this
[15:51] <dipankar> ?
[15:51] <dipankar> You just send in the steps..
[15:51] <dipankar> when I will return I will carry them out
[15:52] <lfaraone> dipankar: sure. it also might be worthwhile to work through http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar/GettingStartedGuide and let me know where you find it confusing or have trouble.
[15:55] <dipankar> brb in 20 minutes
[16:33] <dipankar> dfarning, lfaraone : I am back
[16:33] <lfaraone> dipankar:  yep?
[16:34] <dipankar> last step I have done is: dipankar@dipankar-laptop:/tmp/tmp.OlNS6Lu9GU$
[16:34] <dipankar> I am here
[16:34] <dipankar> lfaraone,  ^^
[16:36] <dipankar> dfarning, lfaraone : why using git this time?
[16:37] <lfaraone> dipankar: we were using git before, no?
[16:37] <lfaraone> dipankar: please copy and paste what's in your terminal into a pastebin such as paste.ubuntu.com
[16:37] <dipankar> lfaraone, as far as I remember, we used debuild to make packages
[16:38] <lfaraone> dipankar: git-buildpackage invokes debuild
[16:38] <lfaraone> dipankar: we're going to be moving to using git for all our packages, it has the benefit of providing a version control system for our changes (via having all of the functionality of a git repo)
[16:39] <dfarning> dipankar, debuild is a 'standard way' of building packages.  git and git-buildpackage add a _very_ helpful layer of source code management to the process.
[16:40] <dipankar> hmm.. lfaraone, here is the terminal status : http://paste.ubuntu.com/454510/
[16:41] <lfaraone> dipankar: okay, so the first command took you into a temporary directory.
[16:41] <dfarning> dipankar, git is what the debian-olpc team (mainly jonas) uses.  There are long term advantages to using the same tools as upstream.
[16:41] <dipankar> got it
[16:41] <lfaraone> dipankar: the second checked out the upstream sources and the third entered the directory
[16:41] <lfaraone> dipankar: then we invoked git-bp to build the package, and installed it using dpkg
[16:41] <lfaraone> dipankar: so now you should have installed the version of s-p-s that is in debian-olpc's git.
[16:42] <lfaraone> dipankar: do you have a sugar-presence-service binary now?
[16:43] <dipankar> lfaraone, I am confused with which file you are referring binary to.. does binary refer to .dsc, .changes files?
[16:45] <lfaraone> dipankar: sorry, I mean you should now have a sugar-presence-service program installed in your computer.
[16:45] <lfaraone> dipankar: "which sugar-presence-service" should return something.
[16:45] <dipankar> ohl
[16:45] <dipankar> *ohk
[16:46] <dipankar> ok.. lfaraone now the problem of 's-p-s' not found is gone
[16:46] <dipankar> but lfaraone a new error is showing up:
[16:47] <dipankar> ImportError: cannot import name env
[16:47] <dipankar> File "/usr/share/sugar-presence-service/main.py", line 25, in <module>
[16:47] <dipankar>     from sugar import env
[16:48] <dipankar> lfaraone, I guess that problem is due to the reason that I have not installed 'usr' on my laptop
[16:49] <lfaraone> mTWsC1nc
[16:49] <lfaraone> oh fsck.
[16:49] <dipankar> lfaraone, what happened??
[16:50] <lfaraone> nothing.
[16:50] <dipankar> lfaraone, did I do something wrong?
[16:51] <lfaraone> dipankar: no, I made a mistake. nothing to do with you.
[16:51] <dipankar> ohk
[16:52] <dipankar> dfarning, I suppose it was planned out to move the packages to git..
[16:52] <dipankar> as you mentioned in the ubuntu mailing list dfarning
[16:54] <dfarning> dipankar, yes. I think that working as closely as possible to debian will reduce the amount of time and effort we spend in maintain mode.
[16:55] <dfarning> dipankar, much better to spend that time improving sugar on both projects.
[16:56] <dipankar> dfarning, ok..
[16:56] <dipankar> dfarning, you are the boss!! :)
[16:57] <dipankar> dfarning, Just kidding
[17:05] <dipankar> dfarning, lfaraone : i'm going for dinner..
[17:06] <dipankar> will join in 15 minutes
[17:20] <dipankar> so dfarning : is the package ready for uploading to ppa?
[17:30] <dfarning> dipankar, sorry every one came home from swiming lessons and was hungary for lunch:)
[17:30] <dipankar> dfarning, its alright!
[17:30] <dfarning> will we back as soon as the littles two are sleeping.
[18:06] <dipankar> dfarning, lfaraone : I managed to start Sugar from Applications->Education->Sugar..
[18:07] <dipankar> thanks to both of you lfaraone and dfarning
[18:13] <dfarning> dipankar, awesome. I am trying now.
[18:13] <dipankar> wait..
[18:13] <dipankar> the new package is not uploaded yet
[18:15] <dipankar> I tried it from the package that I made on my laptop
[18:15] <dfarning> dipankar, ok, no hurry.... I am just looking forward to seeing it work:)
[18:16] <dipankar> dfarning, shall I send you the package .deb file?
[18:17] <dfarning> dipankar, sure that would be good.
[18:24] <dipankar> dfarning, please accept the file
[18:30] <dipankar> dfarning, you there?
[18:32] <dipankar> dfarning, I am very exhausted today.. :( I need to catch some sleep. Will contact when I wake up.
[23:35] <lfaraone> dfarning: I'm ready when you are for a call, either today or tomorrow. you have my GV#.


[13:21] <Nafallo> hiya. is the git+ssh interface down, or is it just me?
[13:22] <cjwatson> Load spike
[13:22] <Nafallo> so not just me. thanks :-)
[13:23]  * cjwatson cancels some recipe builds
[13:25] <cjwatson> May be recovering slightly now
[13:29] <Nafallo> seem to manage to push slowly now :-)
[13:34] <Nafallo> not it broke again :-)
[13:35] <cjwatson> No need to keep telling me
[13:35] <cjwatson> I have graphs
[13:35] <GyrosGeier> hi
[13:35] <Nafallo> alright :-)
[13:36] <GyrosGeier> does the git server have problems, or is that just me getting rate limited because there is a Jenkins instance on my box?
[13:36] <cjwatson> GyrosGeier: Already working on it
[13:36] <GyrosGeier> cool, thanks
[13:37] <cjwatson> Nafallo,GyrosGeier: Should be back now
[13:38] <cjwatson> (existing connections will have been interrupted; quickest way to restore service)
[13:40] <Nafallo> yepp :-)
[13:55] <kami> Hello
[13:56] <kami> I would like to see the current code in the packaging repo of this package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/js2-mode
[13:56] <kami> But the code tab is empty
[13:58] <kami> I thought something like 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu/cosmic/js2-mode' would get me there
[13:58] <cjwatson> pull-lp-source js2-mode disco
[13:58] <cjwatson> The bzr imports are obsolete and no longer maintained
[13:58] <cjwatson> They will eventually be replaced with git imports, but that's still in progress
[13:58] <kami> cjwatson: thank you
[13:58] <cjwatson> So for now, just grab the source package
[14:00] <kami> will do
[14:31] <kami> cjwatson: I hope I may ask a packaging question here. The build of my package fails because a build dependency is not being installed.
[14:31] <kami> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/425866708/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.js2-mode_0~20190526-1mc1~bionic+1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[14:32] <kami> The version specified in Build-Depends is dh-elpa (>= 0.0.11~)
[14:33] <kami> and the version in bionic 1.11
[14:33] <kami> What does the tilde at the end of 0.0.11~ mean?
[14:41] <GyrosGeier> kami, ~ means "less than empty string"
[14:41] <GyrosGeier> it is usually used for backports
[14:41] <GyrosGeier> e.g. a backport version would use 0.0.11~bpo
[14:41] <GyrosGeier> and it would sort before 0.0.11
[14:42] <GyrosGeier> so a system that has backports installed would replace them with the release version on dist-upgrade
[14:42] <GyrosGeier> the single ~ sorts before ~bpo (because the empty string after the tilde sorts before "bpo")
[14:43] <kami> GyrosGeier: I see. Thank you, but that doesn't explain why the builder doesn't install the build dependency.
[14:43] <GyrosGeier> so this means "any version that is at least 0.0.11, including backports and prereleases"
[14:45] <acheronuk> your build depends say:
[14:45] <acheronuk> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9),
[14:45] <acheronuk>                dh-elpa (>= 1.11)
[14:47] <kami> acheronuk: I tried the original >= 0.0.11~ and another build with >= 1.11. Did I make any mistake? Do you spot an error?
[14:47] <GyrosGeier> bionic has 1.11
[14:47] <GyrosGeier> that should also work
[14:47] <GyrosGeier> it's in universe, but universe should be available
[14:48] <kami> "Depends: dh-elpa (>= xxxxx) but it is not going to be installed"
[14:50] <kami> "Get:9 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 Packages"
[14:51] <acheronuk> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:51] <acheronuk>  dh-elpa : Depends: emacs25-nox but it is not going to be installed or
[14:51] <acheronuk>                     emacs2
[14:52] <acheronuk> your emacs build in the ppa is braking its install dependencies
[14:52] <acheronuk> *breaking
[14:52] <kami> acheronuk: did you find that in the build log?
[14:52] <acheronuk> no
[14:52] <acheronuk> in a pbuilder chroot
[14:52] <kami> acheronuk: ah, thanks.
[14:53] <kami> acheronuk: so this means that transitive dependencies of the Build-Depends have to be specified explicitly?
[14:55] <cjwatson> No, you don't have to specify transitive dependencies explicitly
[14:55] <cjwatson> But they do have to actually be installable, which apparently yours aren't
[14:55] <cjwatson> "but it is not going to be installed" is apt's not-hugely-helpful way of saying that something further down the dependency stack isn't resolvable
[14:56] <cjwatson> To figure out what's going on, make a matching apt environment for yourself (chroot or whatever, or chdist from ubuntu-dev-tools can be helpful) and try installing the build-deps explicitly with more and more detail until it gives you an error message that's actually useful
[14:56] <acheronuk> kami: if I remove your ppa from the sources.list of by bionic pbuilder chroot, then dh-elpa installs fine
[14:57] <acheronuk> so certainly something in your ppa
[14:59] <seb128> hey there. Does anyone here would have a pointer to how the width of the tag-edit-entry is defined? I tried to look at lib/lp/bugs/javascript/bug_tags_entry.js but I don't see any obvious place/value in there?
[15:00] <seb128> the current entry is quite small, it's annoying to edit tags list like "bionic verification-needed verification-needed-bionic" to e.g change those to -done, need to sroll, find the right one, etc
[15:05] <acheronuk> emacs25-common : Depends: emacsen-common (>= 2.0.8) but it is not going to be installed
[15:05] <acheronuk> emacsen-common : Conflicts: emacs25-common but 25.2+1-6 is to be installed
[15:05] <acheronuk> kami: that is were I get to following the dep chain
[15:06] <acheronuk> impossible requirements, as a result of what you have in that ppa
[15:06] <cjwatson> seb128: Not actually sure.  It might be computed from some kind of default value for the size or something
[15:06] <cjwatson> I mean the <input> size
[15:06]  * acheronuk leaves it there
[15:06] <kami> acheronuk: many thanks! I'm still struggling with pbuilder ...
[15:06] <cjwatson> But I could be wrong - don't see anything obvious in the CSS
[15:07] <cjwatson> seb128: I'd probably suggest experimenting with styles in Firefox's handy style editor thing
[15:07] <seb128> cjwatson, k, I guess not a 3 min hack I could do/propose on the side then I guess :/
[15:07] <seb128> good hints
[15:08] <seb128> thx cjwatson, I put a note on my side-todolist to try playing with that whenever I get some free cycles... unsure if/when I get to it, but that would make SRU verification editing less frustrating :)
[15:10] <cjwatson> seb128: Setting "width: 20em" or similar (number was arbitrary) on the CSS for that element seems to resize it in appropriate ways
[15:10] <cjwatson> FWIW
[15:10] <seb128> thx
[15:10] <cjwatson> seb128: But it might be more appropriate to set the size attribute on the <input> element's HTML
[15:11] <cjwatson> size="30" or whatever
[15:11] <seb128> what's the easiest way to test such changes made to the launchpad source if I want to go this way?
[15:11] <cjwatson> grep around to see if there's anything similar elsewhere in the codebase, which might also serve to supply appropriate choices of number
[15:11] <seb128> I haven't hacked on launchpad so far
[15:11] <cjwatson> https://dev.launchpad.net/Running
[15:12] <seb128> thx
[15:13] <cjwatson> May or may not want a unit test in this case too (not sure how valuable it would be), but for something visual you'd mainly want to try it out in a browser
[15:17] <kami> pbuilder gives me 'Unknown distribution: bionic'
[15:19] <seb128> back, my laptop reconnect to another wifi and IRC didn't like that :/
[15:19] <seb128> cjwatson, did you write something after
 May or may not want a unit test in this case too (not sure how valuable it would be), but for something visual you'd mainly want to try it out in a browser
[15:19] <seb128> ?
[15:20] <cjwatson> I did not
[15:20] <seb128> k, good
[15:20] <seb128> cjwatson, thanks for the hint, I might try to have a go to this one, would be nice to have a launchpad contribution :)
[15:24] <cjwatson> :)


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[06:26] <IrcsomeBot1> * acheronuk wonders when clivejo de-activated himself from kubuntu-developers :(
 😩
 That really sucks :(
[06:33] <wxl> what would have led to that???
 I dunno :/
[06:38] <wxl> neat
[06:38] <wxl> oops
 @wxl, Yeah I didn't think Clive leaving was "neat" :/
 We're now down to one active "Kubuntu Developer" and two total people on the team with archive access
 That should really change.
 wxl: Are you willing to be assimiliated into being a packager? :P
[06:40] <wxl> yeah
[06:40] <wxl> in case it's not obious, i've taken some steps in that regard
[06:40] <wxl> at least as far as getting back into packaging is concerned
 :P
 Yeah we should get you going with staging and stuff like symbols
[06:41] <wxl> k
 @wxl, Would you be willing to stage Frameworks 5.41 to go in the archive in about a week?
 That'll get you somewhat familiar with the tooling
[06:43] <wxl> i could help with guidance
 Sure, I'll be able to help you
 Or @acheronuk if he feels inclined as well
 Night, see you all in 5 hours :P
[08:28] <valorie> I just dropped a note to Clive to see if he's OK
 @tsimonq2, I'm sure can be arranged
 Morning 😪
 @valorie, Excellent
 @acheronuk, Ok
 Just had a short natter with Clive, he seems alright, I think he's just off in a different direction for a while.
 That's what I've gathered, yeah.


[01:38] <pieq> thanks jelmer, I'll try to mock the launchpad object and retrieve only data that I need


[08:42] <tjaalton> oh i hate these unity window stacking bugs..
[08:42] <tjaalton> or the bug
[08:43] <tjaalton> open firefox with the previous browser session and you don't know where the clicks go
[11:01] <ach1m> Sarvatt, hi, do you have plans to package xserver-xorg-video-intel driver without SNA enabled in xorg-edgers-ppa?
[11:06] <RAOF> Sarvatt: If you want to do that, I've got a branch that does that.
[11:10] <Duke`> since SNA is enabled, I have some random white glitches on windows' title bar, windows' shadows and flash animations (i945 + compiz).
[11:10] <Duke`> has it been already reported?
[15:00] <ach1m> Duke`_, yes it has been reported → https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38732
[15:00] <ubot4> Freedesktop bug 38732 in Driver/intel "[sna unity] windows have white borders from time to time." [Normal,New]
[15:07] <Duke`_> funny, openning this link gave me a white window title for firefox :D
[15:07] <Duke`_> thank for the link
[23:19] <cwillu_at_work> tjaalton, I see that under classic with compiz as well
[23:19] <cwillu_at_work> must be a compiz thing


[00:00] <goodtime> your*
[00:02] <rodnice> hmm... OK, I'll look around
[00:04] <genii> !alis
[00:05] <genii> rodnice: Also there's a website I like to use sometimes http://irc.netsplit.de/   you can search by netowrk or by channel, etc
[00:06]  * rodnice bows down to genii
[00:15] <rodnice> QUESTION - What is the purpose of "Activities" in Kubuntu?
[00:15] <rodnice> Does Windows have something like it?
[00:19] <genii> rodnice: I don't use them, but there's a fairly good description here: http://www.datamation.com/open-source/the-mystery-of-kde-activities-1.html
[00:25] <rodnice> genii: thanx
[00:36] <seven__> om
[00:50] <rodnice> ?
[01:14] <kristal> http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste Old CSS trick, firefox/chromium refuse to remove [enter] characters from copies or even have an option, can I have filters in kde's clipboard?
[04:19] <Basil1x> Look what they've done to my Linux: http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/
[04:21] <genii> Basil1x: I'm not clicking on any URL with Hannah Montana in it
[04:21] <Basil1x> I don't blame you...
[04:21] <Basil1x> It's a Kubuntu-based distro targetted at pubescent girls...  I don't envy the helpers if it catches on.
[04:39]  * genii shudders
[04:40] <Basil1x> Sorry... felt I had to share with those who'd be most likely effected.
[05:31] <kristal> How does one stop fiddling with KDE...
[05:35] <genii> kristal: Log out?
[05:44] <kristal> how does one add bookmarks to the classic application launcher...
[05:46] <kristal> hmm, how do you remove help from the classic launcher...
[05:48] <genii> kristal: Rightclick on launcher, Edit Applications... select the Help item you want to remove, click on Cut on top right, save
[05:53] <kristal> ah, have to save, and there's no hide really
[05:53] <kristal> i keep thinking it auto saves...
[05:54] <genii> Adding bookmarks directly I'm not sure, but you could do something like make the item: browsername pagename
[05:55] <kristal> or dolphin and the directory, hmm, maybe there's a widget for folders...
[07:05] <jack> who coded muon?
[07:05] <jack> same guy as adept? mornfall?
[07:17] <cluelesscoder> jack: have you ever used ohloh?
[07:18] <jack> dunno
[07:18] <cluelesscoder> jack: ohloh.net is really good for seeing who programmed what, and also browsing open-source code
[07:18] <jack> i vaguely remember a website
[07:18] <cluelesscoder> http://www.ohloh.net/p/muon-frontend/contributors/summary
[07:18] <jack> ok cool, thx
[07:18] <cluelesscoder> anyway Jonathan Thomas has been doing a lot of work on it lately check out jontheechidna.wordpress.com
[07:19] <jack> ok :)
[07:19] <cluelesscoder> looks like Aleix Pol also does a lot
[07:21] <cluelesscoder> jack: pretty cool website, eh?
[07:22] <jack> cluelesscoder, indeed
[07:22] <cluelesscoder> is anyone else a little worried about how Kubuntu will fit into the future Ubuntu?
[07:22] <tsimpson> no, just you :)
[07:22] <jack> aurelien gateau :)
[07:23] <cluelesscoder> I'm thinking about trying to transition to opensuse
[07:23] <jack> mr. gwenview, iirc
[07:24] <cluelesscoder> jack, did he post something about it somewhere?
[07:26] <jack> nope, i only saw his name on ohloh
[07:26] <jack> as a muon contributor
[07:26] <cluelesscoder> ah yeah
[07:27] <cluelesscoder> that page is a little buggy if you didn't notice - Jonathan Thomas name doesn't show up consistently
[07:27] <jack> i finkified gwenview, years ago
[07:27] <cluelesscoder> finkified?
[07:27] <jack> so i recalled his name
[07:28] <jack> fink is a packaging project for macosx
[07:30] <jack> ohn and btw: opensuse SUCKS
[07:31] <jack> coming from dpkg, you'll hate rpm :P
[07:31] <cluelesscoder> jack can I still use muon in opensuse?
[07:33] <jack> if you manage to get its huge dep-chain together, most probably yes
[07:33] <cluelesscoder> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/05/mir-in-kubuntu/
[07:33] <jack> but i have no idea if muon knows rpm
[07:33] <cluelesscoder> that guy is the Wayland developer for KDE
[07:43] <jack> cluelesscoder, muon might well be apt-only
[07:43] <cluelesscoder> jack yeah, probably right
[07:44] <kristal> Soo my screensaver won't stop... i have 6 of them running in the background eating my cpu
[07:44] <cluelesscoder> jack I've noticed when hanging around forum.kde.org that a lot of the admins run suse, which has me intrigued
[07:44] <jack> would be a no for muon in opensuse
[07:44] <cluelesscoder> but I'm very happy with kubuntu so I'll stick with it - I imagine if Ubuntu screws it for us we'll all figure something out together
[07:44] <kristal> time 3h ksolarwinds.kss
[07:44] <jack> since that's rpm territory
[07:45] <kristal> Anyone know about a big that results in screensaver processes continuing in the bakcground?
[07:45] <kristal> bug*
[07:49] <kristal> Hmm, yup, that be a bug, ksolarwinsd.kss does not close, it keeps runnig eating cpu and you can gather up an unlimited number of them.
[07:51] <kristal> Can anyone replicate it?
[08:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:52] <Mamarok> I could need some help: trying to upgrade to 13.10 beta2 it stalls on configuring grup-pc and sits there since quite some time now.
[11:52] <Mamarok> Now what?
[11:58] <Mamarok> help?
[13:10] <floo> hello
[13:11] <floo> anyone here?
[13:17] <Mamarok> floo: just ask your question
[13:46] <floo> i have a laptop asus x51rl with integrated ati radeon xpress 1100
[13:46] <floo> i can find a driver for this.. coz it's move very slowly
[13:56] <jack> hi krise
[13:56] <krise> Hi Jack
[13:56] <jack> is that "crisis" in finnish nas well?
[13:56] <jack> -h
[13:56] <jack> erm -n
[13:57] <krise> Hm , i dont know
[13:57] <jack> cause in german it is
[13:57] <krise> im estonian
[13:57] <jack> oh ok
[13:57] <krise> is it ?
[13:57] <jack> but your host isn't .ee
[13:57] <krise> i know , im in finland at the moment
[13:57] <jack> i see
[13:58] <jack> nice place?
[13:58] <krise> yes it is
[13:58] <jack> lots of forests and lakes, afaik
[13:58] <krise> yep
[13:58] <jack> :)
[13:59] <krise> all the palces are nice,
[13:59] <krise> i dont like india do
[13:59] <jack> india? is damn far away
[13:59] <krise> u german ?
[13:59] <jack> another part of this "earth" ball
[14:00] <jack> yep
[14:00] <krise> been there once
[14:00] <jack> let me guess
[14:00] <jack> munich?
[14:01] <krise> nope
[14:01] <krise> i dont remember
[14:01] <jack> hrm
[14:01] <jack> hamburg i bet
[14:01] <krise> we were driving to france and we stopped in many places
[14:01] <jack> = big and close to scandinavia
[14:02] <jack> oh i see
[14:02] <krise> i dont remember where did we spent the night
[14:02] <jack> can be like every german city
[14:02] <krise> yeah
[14:02] <jack> cause france is like on the other side :P
[14:03]  * jack was born in paris
[14:03] <krise> i remember it was long ride
[14:04] <krise> we went to lyon
[14:04] <jack> :)
[14:05] <jack> another issue: do you like gaming?
[14:06] <jack> if yes, please name a game that rules, for ubuntu
[14:07] <krise> i dont think there is one :)
[14:07] <jack> :/
[14:08] <krise> i play sometimes hockey and some racing games, but i dont think there is some good hockey or racing cames for kubuntu
[14:08] <jack> so it's wine+any winblows game
[14:08] <jack> shrug
[14:08] <krise> never tried
[14:09] <krise> im not big gamer anymore
[14:09] <jack> i see
[14:09] <jack> i used to love diablo2
[14:09] <jack> back then in my mac years
[14:10] <krise> diablo 1 was the firs game i played
[14:10] <jack> lol, cool
[14:11] <krise> that was over 10 year ago
[14:11] <jack> yeah
[14:11] <jack> time passes so quickly
[14:12] <jack> if you look at software evolution
[14:12] <krise> too quickly
[14:12] <jack> how old are you now?
[14:12] <krise> im 36
[14:12] <jack> ok
[14:12] <krise> wrong
[14:12] <krise> 35
[14:13]  * jack is almost 42 now
[14:13] <krise> at the end of the month ill be 36
[14:13] <jack> the magic douglas adams number :P
[14:14] <krise> i dont know about that
[14:14] <jack> never read THHGTTG?
[14:14] <jack> the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?
[14:14] <krise> nope, whats that ?
[14:14] <jack> one of the best books ever written
[14:17] <krise> i didnt find the book but i will watch the movie
[14:17] <jack> sucks, compared to the book :)
[14:17] <jack> watchable but damn silly
[14:18] <krise> ok
[14:19] <krise> i like sci fi movies
[14:19] <krise> yestarday i went to see Riddik or something, Vi n Diesel movi
[14:19] <krise> that was quite boring
[14:21] <jack> the new one?
[14:21] <krise> yes
[14:21] <jack> cool - i need to watch it
[14:21] <jack> loved pitch black and chronicles
[14:24] <krise> havent seen non of thems, cant find chronicles torrent
[14:25] <jack> they're both very nice imo
[14:50] <daft_> Hi, yesterday i can some old windows app with wine. And it downgraded my screen resolution.
[14:50] <daft_> now i started my pc again and the resoluion is still low..
[14:50] <daft_> does someone know how i can change my resolution.
[14:58] <daft_> found it
[16:31] <Roey> Hi, I'm having a little bit of trouble getting the unmount to succeed.
 fuser -m /proto shows nothing, fuser -v /proto shows nothing, yet I get "umount: /proto: device is busy."
[16:39] <Avihay> you can try to remount it as read only first
[16:48] <Roey> Avihay:  oh, ok
[16:49] <Roey> Avihay:  אביחי?
[16:49] <Avihay> ken?
[16:50] <Roey> sudo mount -o remount,ro /proto
[16:50] <Roey> mount: /proto is busy
[16:50] <Roey> Avihay:  stam just wanted to see if you speak Hebrew
[16:50] <Avihay> well, no idea. you might wanna /join #ubuntu-il
[16:50] <Roey> I had no idea there was one!
[16:50] <Roey> nice!!
[16:50] <Roey> there is also #israel
[18:34] <Guest14762> salut
[18:35] <Guest14762> hello
[18:36] <genii> Guest14762: Hello! Do you have some question about your Kubuntu?
[18:37] <Guest14762> i'm new client
[19:55] <robeepal> Hi! I dont know exactly if I am in the right chat, but i have a question about Ubuntu OS for Phones, I want to know if my Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9100 is it compatible and stable with my phone ?! Thank you
[19:56] <BluesKaj> robeepal, ask in #ubuntu
[19:57] <robeepal> thank you
[20:08] <jacob_> i need help
[20:08] <jacob_> for got my hotmail pass can u guys hlp me
[20:08] <jacob_> help
[20:09] <kristal> hotmail is awful
[20:09] <jacob_> i am on liunxs mint 14
[20:09] <jacob_> pix in ther i cant never get back meen a lot to me
[20:10] <BluesKaj> !mint > jacob_
[20:15] <jacob__> waz good room
[20:53] <tapout> How can I enable doubleclicking as 'copy' in konsole?  In putty, i can double click or even highlight stuff and it instnatly copys.. i don't have to right click and hit copy
[20:58] <genii> tapout: Not sure about doubleclick. But if you go Settings...Edit current profile...tab entitled Mouse ... you can choose there to have anything selected automatically be copiedby checking off Copy on Select
[21:45] <kristal> Hmm, how do i tell the panel to only show windows on my current desktop...
[21:47] <kristal> found it
[21:52] <kristal> So if I go panel options, add widget, then click activities... it crashes
[22:21] <holff> alguen sabe como remover o kubuntu e deixa como anterior ubunutu
[22:21] <jack> ubottu: es
[22:22] <jack> k?
[23:07] <rodnice> Does anyone know how I would image my Kubuntu 13 system?
[23:10] <jack> rodnice, use dd for example
[23:27] <rodnice> jack: dd?
[23:28] <rodnice> Does anyone know how I would image my Kubuntu 13 system?
[23:37] <jack> rodnice, man dd
[23:38] <jack> copies block-devices to files if you want
[23:45] <rodnice> oh OK
[23:45] <rodnice> jack: thank you, however I'm new to all this
[23:46] <rodnice> jack: how would I activate this dd?
[23:46] <rodnice> jack: (coincidentally, I'm sitting in a Dunkin Donuts)
[23:48] <rodnice> jack: sorry, "man dd" ok
[23:48] <jack> rodnice: it should be installed already
[23:49] <rodnice> jack: Thanks. I'll research it.
[23:49] <jack> dunk a donut for me, plz
[23:50]  * jack = hungry now
[23:50] <rodnice> jack: lol I don't touch the stuff... only here for their free internet
[23:50]  * rodnice still hungry
[23:50] <jack> heh
[23:50] <jack> i see
[23:51] <jack> just had 2 cranberry-jelly-filled donuts from mcd
[23:52] <jack> but damn i want more :P
[23:52] <rodnice> jack: America Dies on Dunkin :-)
[23:52] <jack> hehe
[23:52] <rodnice> jack: is there an imaging GUI?
[23:52] <jack> none i know of
[23:53] <rodnice> jack: dd is too advanced for my lack of expertise
[23:53] <rodnice> jack: I'm scared of screwing up with command line typos
[23:53] <jack> maybe k3b can create images
[23:53] <jack> not sure there
[23:54] <rodnice> ohh
[23:54] <rodnice> OK
[23:54] <jack> or any similar app, brasero or so
[23:54] <jack> or xfburn
[23:55] <jack> bbl...
[23:58] <rodnice> ok
[23:58] <rodnice> thanx