[09:56] <pcb-dennis> hi, i am sure this is often asked but i could not find an answer on the website. Does the mid-image run on the eeepc 4G and does it make sense to use it there? or should i install the 386-ubuntu
[13:12] <ido-> orga around ?
[13:12] <ido-> any other Q1u users
[14:39] <lool> Someone ever heard of unetbootin?
[14:39] <lool> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:39] <lool> ogra: ^
[14:40] <ogra> isnt that the guy who constantly mails u-d-d about his new releases ?
[14:40] <lool> erf no idea
[14:40] <lool> First time I read about it
[14:40] <ogra> ah, no
[14:40] <ogra> i mixed that up with the tool that installs from a http'ed iso
[14:47] <ido-> hey orga
[14:47] <cgregan> brianchidester: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[14:50] <cgregan> njpatel: I would like to introduce brianchidester. He will be helping me out with the UNR release testing this cycle. You will start seeing bugs from him shortly.
[14:51] <ian_brasil> lool..you read this http://andreeleidenfrost.blogspot.com/2008/11/eeepc-901-with-ubuntu-intrepid-ibex.html on planet debian too huh :)
[14:52] <njpatel> cgregan: thanks! brianchidester: Hi, I'm the one who's going to be fixing most of the UNR launcher/panel/window-manager bugs :-)
[15:04] <lool> ogra: Hmm my clock says 3pm UTC; where's Jono?
[15:05] <lool> ian_brasil: Eh yeah
[15:29] <brianchidester> njpatel: so it will be my job to make you earn your pay?
[15:29] <crevette> lool, seems uber cool
[15:29] <njpatel> brianchidester: heh, something like that :-)
[15:36] <lool> brianchidester: or vice-versa
[15:48] <KarlsBerg> Hello, someone testing with Aspire One ?
[15:53] <ian_brasil> KarlsBerg: I have an Aspire One
[16:46] <KarlsBerg87> aha ian_brasil write you in query
[16:50] <ido-> hey orga, here ?
[16:55] <KarlsBerg87> ian_brasil,  ?
[16:55] <KarlsBerg87> hello?
[17:11] <LanceHaig> Hi How do I know if ubuntu can run on my Dell AXIM X30?
[17:12] <ogra> you boot from the usb key and run the live session ?
[17:12] <LanceHaig> right
[17:12] <ogra> would be the safest way imho
[17:13] <LanceHaig> I can't find a link on the wiki
[17:13] <ogra> to what ?
[17:13] <ogra> the image ?
[17:14] <LanceHaig> to how rto accomplish that
[17:14] <LanceHaig> but I will keep looking
[17:14] <ogra> see /topic ;)
[17:14] <ogra> the download page has instructions to get the image in a usb key ...
[17:14] <ogra> *on
[17:15] <LanceHaig> there is no link to the download page in the FAQ
[17:15] <LanceHaig> but I think I found it
[17:15] <LanceHaig> Thanks
[17:16] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/ubuntu-8.10-umpc-i386.img
[17:16] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/
[17:17] <LanceHaig> ogra: thanks mate
[17:21] <ido-> orga , does hibernate/suspend work well on your Q1u ?
[17:21] <ogra> yes
[17:21] <ido-> because it doesn't on mine.
[17:22] <ogra> how do you suspend ?
[17:22] <ido-> hiberante doesnt work at all iirc, and suspend does work, but when it wakes up there's no network interfaces
[17:22] <ogra> and did you pick a big enough swap partition for hibernate ?
[17:23] <ido-> it never asked me to. where do i pick it ?
[17:23] <ogra> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[17:23] <ogra> see "Wireless doesn't work after suspend with ath_pci driver"
[17:23] <ogra> there is a wrokaround
[17:24] <ogra> it should have set up a swap partition during partitioning while installing
[17:25] <ido-> well i dont know if it did
[17:25] <ogra> use the "free" command
[17:25] <crevette> hello
[17:25] <ogra> it should show you if there is a swap partition in use
[17:26] <ido-> no swap parition
[17:26] <ido-> would a swap file help ?
[17:26] <ogra> not for hibernate afaik ... but my info might be outdated
[17:27] <ido-> hrm. what do i search to find out ?
[17:27] <ogra> well, just create one and try out
[17:27] <ido-> my touch screen works now btw, so that should be fixed in ubuntu..
[17:28] <ogra> did the .fdi change i suggested help ?
[17:28] <ogra> or did you have to do more ?
[17:28] <ido-> no, i dont think that did it
[17:28] <ido-> but it might have to do with it
[17:29] <ogra> well, what exactly did you do to make it work apart from the .fdi change ?
[17:29] <ido-> i blacklisted the usbtouchscreen module
[17:29] <ogra> i cant add a fix if i dont know what else was involved
[17:29] <ogra> hrm
[17:29] <ido-> and i added a rule with /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
[17:29] <ido-> i think i left the fdi thingy too, so it might have helped
[17:29] <ogra> thats dead technology that was just ripped out :/
[17:30] <ido-> though so
[17:30] <ido-> so i'll remove it
[17:30] <ido-> and restart
[17:30] <ido-> and see if it still works
[17:30] <ogra> that would be good
[17:30] <ido-> and if it does, then its the blacklist + fdi probably
[17:30] <ogra> well, usbtouchscreen should be what handles it on kernel level
[17:31] <ido-> seems that it interferes..
[17:31] <ido-> because blacklisting it helped
[17:32] <ido-> is there a different module ?
[17:32] <ogra> weird
[17:32] <ido-> rebooting..
[17:32] <ogra> usbtouchscreen is a merge of the touchkitusb, itmtouch and mtouchusb drivers
[17:33] <ogra> since you have a touchkit it should be the right driver for it
[17:33] <ogra> and it definately is on my Q1U
[17:33] <ido-> true
[17:33] <ido-> lemme see which module is loaded
[17:36] <ido-> ok
[17:36] <ido-> i'm not sure which one it is
[17:37] <ido-> http://pastebin.ca/1244144
[17:40] <ido-> orga ?
[18:02]  * ogra will hold a talk about ubuntu-umpc in #ubuntu-classroom now
[18:21] <ido_> hrm.
[18:51] <Whatsinaname> Hello,  I used winimage to put image on flash drive, but it wont boot to it.  Am I missing something?  I really want to try UMPC version on my acer apire one.
[18:53] <Whatsinaname> its the ubuntu-8.10-mid-lpia.img
[18:54] <Whatsinaname> is anyone here?
[18:55] <ian_brasil> Whatsinaname: you need the umpc image
[18:56] <Whatsinaname> Oh.
[18:56] <ian_brasil> not the lpia one
[18:56] <ian_brasil> i am running umpc on an aspire one
[18:57] <ido_> יר
[18:57] <ido_> hr
[18:57] <Whatsinaname> Ok searching for it now.  But should the lpia one have booted?
[18:57] <Whatsinaname> Just got AAO yesterday.  lovin it now.
[19:01] <Whatsinaname> Just not sure if using winimage I have to do anything different to make it a bootable usb.
[19:04] <ogra> Whatsinaname, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/
[19:06] <Whatsinaname> thanks orga,  I have seen that and am now downloading proper image.  but I am on a windows machine currently and was wondering if I have to do something special to get it to boot from the usb. (other than just puting image on usb drive with winimage.)
[19:07] <Whatsinaname> It will be interesting to contrast/compare this verses the netbook remix.  playing with new toys is fun. :)
[19:07] <ogra> there are soe tools for win ... rawwrite should work or there is also DD for windows i heard
[19:13] <ido_> there is dd for windows
[19:20] <Whatsinaname> hmm now to just figure out dd lol
[19:23] <ogra> http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
[19:23] <ido_> dd for windows ?
[19:24] <ogra> dd if=c:\temp\<your downloaded image>.img of=\\.\<device letter of your usb key>: bs=1024
[19:31] <Whatsinaname> hehe I am so noob, cant get dd to be recognized
[19:34]  * ogra goes afk
[19:39] <Whatsinaname> I get error opening output file: 2 the system cannot find teh file specified
[19:42] <ian_brasil> Whatsinaname: supply the complete path?
[19:50] <rrittenhouse> I'm looking into these "Netbooks" in hopes of getting one for xmas from the wife. I am looking at the Acer Aspire AOA150 and the EEEPC 1000. Which would be a good choice? I'm looking to put "Ubuntu Mobile" on whichever one I get.
[19:52] <rrittenhouse> This may not be the perfect room to ask this in but I thought I would give it a shot for some opinions.
[19:52] <ian_brasil> i have put ubuntu mobile on both.. x11perf test results showed the 512 atom on the acer aspire outperformed the 1GB celeron eeepc...however both rock IMO
[19:53] <rrittenhouse> The Acer aspire has a slightly smaller screen but I think I could handle that for it being cheaper....
[19:59] <rrittenhouse> ian_brasil, So If I buy the Windows version at staples I should be OK?
[20:00] <ian_brasil> well there are lots of reports of the lower cost linux varieties being out of stock so people get XP versions and put ubuntu on them
[20:00] <ido_> hey
[20:00] <ian_brasil> particularly in australia it seems
[20:16] <bicyclist> On the topic of netbooks i myself own an eeepc 900a and use ubuntu eee on it .
[20:17] <bicyclist> Most watching me work with it are very impresse on what is possible.
[20:20] <ido_> hey orga..
[20:21] <ido_> I have a few inputs on umpc edition


[22:21] <KhazAkar> hello, did somebody tried building ubuntu core 22 image with integrated application which have dependency on core20 snap? Base image works fine for me, but when I add core20-based image my board is stuck in bootloop
[23:08] <en1gma> hey all i been thinking about getting a raspberry pi 4b (i want the 5 but its too expensive for what you get) i did have the 3b and used raspbian os. so im not exactly new to that. what i want to do is get a phone that will work with ubuntu-arm64 recommend that would be able to convert to do this?
[23:08] <en1gma> the phones have great hardware inside and a display. i would most likely use bt mouse+keyboard to control it and maybe output video over the type c port.


[19:29] <qwebirc35154> I am new to mythbuntu
[19:29] <qwebirc35154> and where i can find step by step guide
[19:30] <qwebirc35154> I installed mythubuntu but it is not worrking I also have cable card for comcast.
[20:02] <SteveGoodey> qwebirc35154: Try https://docs.google.com/document/d/19knOlqz8cV5_8VQ1tCvEd8tjEk6U50KsSOJCROR60o4/edit?pli=1
[20:04] <SteveGoodey> qwebirc35154: Basically you need to setup the Mythtv backend.


[02:19] <cjwatson> cyphermox: can certainly try a test package if you point me at it
[04:42] <Mirv> Unit193: hellos
[05:00] <pitti> Good morning
[05:10] <pitti> doko__, cjwatson: so perl isn't held by autopkgtest failures now, just by uninstallability
[05:17] <YokoZar> cjwatson: Would a sync of new libcdio (for multiarch compatibilty) be appropriate?  (Debian includes new upstream version as well)
[05:17] <YokoZar> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcdio/+bug/1151565
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[07:20] <jibel> pitti, I've 2 machines running utopic that hang on shutdown or reboot. One hangs on unmountfs, the other I don't know. DO you know how to debug that?
[07:36] <pitti> jibel: did you already try without "splash quiet"?
[07:36] <kdeuser56> pitti: have you got my mail about apport?
[07:36] <jibel> pitti, yes, and it stops at unmounting file systems ...
[07:36] <pitti> kdeuser56: yes, Harald already answered it
[07:36] <jibel> pitti, and stays here forever
[07:36] <kdeuser56> pitti: what does he mean by faking the dr.konqui accept file?
[07:37] <kdeuser56> pitti: how would I make that automatic at every crash?
[07:37] <pitti> kdeuser56: not sure -- I don't know drkonqui or Kubuntu's current crash handling at all, I'm afraid
[07:37] <jibel> (not really forever but I waited like 10min before hard rebooting the machines)
[07:37] <kdeuser56> pitti: yeah, but why is there not way to always invoke apport?
[07:38] <pitti> jibel: hmm; can you still switch VTs at that time? maybe there's some error on VT8 or so
[07:38] <kdeuser56> pitti: does apport simply not detect the crash when drkonqi is invoked?
[07:38] <pitti> kdeuser56: as apachelogger wrote, it was designed like that
[07:38] <jibel> pitti, it happens on every shutdown/reboot. I can switch VTs but there is no error
[07:38] <kdeuser56> pitti: apport or dr.konqi?
[07:38] <pitti> kdeuser56: yes, if KDE programs themselves intercept the SIGSEGV, then it doesn't go to the kernel and thus apport
[07:39] <pitti> jibel: hmm, I'm afraid I have no idea at that point :/ perhaps jodh has some trick up his sleeve to make upstart more verbose on the console
[07:39] <kdeuser56> pitti: oh, that means dr konqi would need to be patched if I wanted that behavior ...
[07:40] <jibel> pitti, okay, thanks. I'll ask when he is online.
[07:41] <pitti> kdeuser56: I suppose it's too late in drkonqui; the signal needs to be re-raised after invoking the KDE crash handler and deciding that you also want apport (or a proper core dump)
[07:41] <apachelogger> class KCrash in kde4libs is the thing that needed patching
[07:43] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: oh damn, since I think I can't patch that myself, can I workaround that issue with a shell script being invoked?
[07:44] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: could you explain me how you meant the dr.konqui.accept trick?
[07:44] <apachelogger> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_raise_after_drkonqi.patch
[07:44] <apachelogger> our KCrash will raise the signal to the kernel iff a drkonqi-accept file is present
[07:44] <apachelogger> +    sprintf(filePath, "/var/crash/%s.%d.drkonqi-accept", buf, uid);
[07:45] <apachelogger> buf being the url of the binary that crashed with / exchanged for _ and uid is, well, the user id
[07:45] <apachelogger> so what you could do is write a wrapper script around drkonqi that always creates this file
[07:46] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: ah damn, now I see another problem: I have my custom patched version of apport, where I changed the file format to include a date
[07:46] <pitti> I hope just the date, not the time
[07:47] <kdeuser56> pitti: I included hours, thats restrictive enough for me
[07:47] <apachelogger> in the file name?
[07:48] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: yeah, otherwise apport would overwrite existing crash reports of the same application
[07:48] <pitti> only if you already saw the previous one
[07:49] <kdeuser56> pitti: what do you mean by "saw"?
[07:49] <kdeuser56> retraced?
[07:49] <pitti> well, if you got an apport window which told you about the crash and let you decide whether to report it
[07:49] <pitti> it won't overwrite "unseen" crashes, just increase the "CrashCounter" to avoid flooding with repetitive crashes
[07:50] <pitti> to limit to 3 crashes per executable and day
[07:50] <kdeuser56> pitti: ah okay, thats too often the case for me, so I prefer my time patch
[07:50] <kdeuser56> (that I get the windows, or a cron scripts autoretraces stuff for me)
[07:51] <kdeuser56> pitti: why does apport-retrace never modify the original file? why do I have to print to stdout or to another file?
[07:52] <pitti> kdeuser56: you can tell it to update the original file;  in fact, that's the default
[07:52] <pitti> -s → stdout, -o → other file, -g → gdb session; none of those: update original file
[07:52] <kdeuser56> pitti: i am afraid it never does for me .... it always tells me to use either s, o or g
[07:53] <pitti> hm, that could be fallout from a bug fix last week
[07:53] <pitti> but it at least had worked before
[07:53] <kdeuser56> pitti: when was before?
[07:53] <pitti> like, until two weeks (or so) ago
[07:54] <pitti> anyway, bug report appreciated
[07:54] <kdeuser56> pitti: are you sure? I can't confirm that
[07:54] <pitti> should be simple to fix
[07:55] <kdeuser56> pitti: okay I will investigate and when I am sure it does not work, I'll report a bug, but I am already pretty sure
[07:55] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: does the diff you linked also apply to the frameworks version?
[07:57] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: deleting lines 26-30 and 36-38 should do what I want, right?
[08:00] <apachelogger> kdeuser56: it's not ported to frameworks but generally yes
[08:01] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: does the yes also apply to the line deleting in the diff?
[08:02] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: I mean sure the class name "possiblyRaiseForApport" would not make sense any more then for me, but that should not hurt
[08:02] <apachelogger> dunno
[08:02] <apachelogger> you really could just replace possiblyRaise with raise(sig)
[08:03] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: you mean in KCrash::setCrashHandler?
[08:03] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: what does the "KCrash::setCrashHandler(0);" do then?
[08:04] <apachelogger> prevents it from looking in on itself
[08:04] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: so it makes sense to set it before raise(sig), right?
[08:05] <apachelogger> yeah
[08:06] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: so what I am expected to get then is both, dr. konqui and apport, right?
[08:07] <kdeuser56> pitti, apachelogger: thanks for your great help, I'll try it!
[08:13]  * Mirv hugs pitti for pygobject (virt-manager)
[08:14] <pitti> Mirv: heh, no worries :)
[08:14] <pitti> I broke it, I fix it
[08:15] <pitti> Mirv: ah, you use virt-manager?
[08:16] <Mirv> pitti: yes nowadays. I felt so outdated on ordinary manually qemu + vnc, that I finally installed it and also started using SPICE. now the lxc folks tell me I'm still totally outdated :(
[08:17] <pitti> Mirv: ah, I always just use qemu from the command line; I didn't quite like all the extra overhead and daemons of virt-manager; but I suppose it's quite a bit easier to use?
[08:18] <pitti> Mirv: (FAOD, not saying that virt-manager is bad, I just don't know many people who use it)
[08:18] <Mirv> pitti: well the same I wasn't sure what benefit setting it up would be, but now running VM:s on remote machine works pretty nice anyhow
[08:18] <pitti> Mirv: yeah, I guess it's quite a bit better for someone like a server hoster where you have permanent VMs and need to manage them
[08:18] <Mirv> I think I just saw xnox using it a long time ago or something, and it seemed cool
[08:19] <pitti> I only have temporary ones or boot images for testing
[08:20] <Mirv> right. I've permanent 14.04 LTS and Debian VM:s on another machine.
[08:20] <Mirv> QXL/Spice don't make Mesa+LLVM Unity 7 fast, though, but it's usable
[08:21] <pitti> Mirv: ah, and now you want to move most of them to LXC containers? :-)
[08:21] <Mirv> pitti: probably I should do that, yes :)
[08:22] <pitti> Mirv: depends on what you want to do; for the most part, containers are faster and nicer, but you can't test different kernels or do low-level stuff (graphics etc.) with them
[08:24] <Mirv> yes, I'd probably want to be able to pass the GPU to the VM eventually too, since I eg. test Qt and others which are nicer with accelerated 3D
[08:25] <Mirv> not sure thouh which year that's coming to qemu/gallium3d, but probably eventually
[08:25] <pitti> Mirv: testing newer Qt is easier with schroot or LXC
[08:25] <pitti> Mirv: as they use the same kernel/hardware as the host; testing fixed kernel drives also doesn't make much sense in QEMU; so it sounds like indeed you want containers or schroots
[08:29] <apachelogger> (if you manage to setup networking for LXC that is :P)
[08:39] <pitti> apachelogger: err -- there's exactly zero work involved in that
[08:44] <apachelogger> pitti: that's improvement then. I tried to replace our neon build infrastructure schroots with LXC in feburary and networking was not working at all ;)
[08:46] <pitti> odd, that has worked for ages
[08:55] <mlankhorst> doko__: odd, I do not get the LLVM failure here..
[08:55] <mlankhorst> maybe it's cpu specific code triggering?
[08:55] <doko> mlankhorst, welcome to debugging jits generating code for different processors :-P
[08:56] <mlankhorst> hah
[08:56] <mlankhorst> can I 'downgrade' the code generation?
[08:59] <Mirv> pitti: as a baby step I installed lxc on that remote machine and I can now connect to that too via virt-manager.
[09:02] <pitti> Mirv: hah, cool!
[09:02] <mlankhorst> oh colored dmesg.. my eyes..
[09:05] <mlankhorst> ok my crap system can reproduce that error:-)
[09:22] <Mirv> any core-dev around to ack CI Train debian/ changes? this time libaccounts-glib/qt + online accounts. the three links containing the diffs are at https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-015-2-publish/ - two are just version bump changes.
[09:23] <Mirv> and even the libaccounts-glib just adds one file to be installed
[09:24] <pitti> Mirv: LGTM, ack
[09:24] <Mirv> this is the official "thank pitti" day
[11:29] <mlankhorst> doko: found a testcase
[11:29] <mlankhorst> piglit with DISPLAY=:0 LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 bin/ext_transform_feedback-change-size  range-shrink
[11:55] <mlankhorst> hm, works with more recent mesa..
[11:57] <mlankhorst> I'll do a full test to be sure..
[12:30] <mlankhorst> ok ubuntu-ui-toolkit doesn't seem to fail either..
[12:59] <mlankhorst> doko: well if I file a FFe for mesa 10.3 I should be able to enable llvm, pending the remaining piglit tests
[13:07] <cjwatson> YokoZar: I don't know, haven't investigated.  If you want to take responsibility for it don't let me stop you :)  (My Ubuntu change can certainly be synced over now)
[13:08] <cjwatson> doko: thanks for working on the perl transition; FYI I'm working on libguestfs, it's requiring me to fix up gfs2-utils first
[13:09] <doko> cjwatson, ahh, I have a libguestfs package
[13:09] <doko> dropped the libguestfs-gfs2 b-d
[13:09] <cjwatson> doko: shouldn't be necessary
[13:09] <cjwatson> I almost have gfs2-utils fixed ...
[13:10] <doko> cjwatson, what do you propose about the unreadable kernel images?
[13:10] <cjwatson> doko: that isn't what's blocking it, is it?
[13:11] <doko> cjwatson, fails later trying to run the tests. disabled for now.
[13:11] <cjwatson> roaksoax: so Fedora gfs2-utils has dropped the init script entirely, which is broken at the moment because it requires cman in order to start.  Do you think I could just drop that init script from Ubuntu too and rely on mounting being done in other ways?
[13:13] <roaksoax> cjwatson: +1
[13:13] <cjwatson> doko: there appears to be a SKIP_TEST_SYSLINUX_PL environment variable available, at least
[13:13] <cjwatson> hm, maybe it's not that test
[13:14] <doko> cjwatson, http://people.canonical.com/~doko/tmp/libguestfs.debdiff
[13:14] <doko> still with the gfs2 disabled
[13:14] <roaksoax> cjwatson: if they have dropped it, then it would be good for us to do it. Although, are we looking to merge a new version from Debian? Has Fedora dropped it in the same version we have?
[13:15] <cjwatson> build-depending on grub2?!
[13:15] <cjwatson> roaksoax: there's no new version from Debian to mereg
[13:15] <cjwatson> *merge
[13:15] <doko> that was already in Debian
[13:16] <cjwatson> still evil :)  should probably be grub-something-bin
[13:16] <roaksoax> cjwatson: ok. Yeah we should definitely not need cman as a dependency for the initi script, so I think it is safe to drop it
[13:16] <cjwatson> build-depending on grub2 installs something that will own the system's boot sector
[13:17] <cjwatson> doko: so if I fix gfs2-utils can you try restoring libguestfs-gfs2?
[13:17] <doko> sure
[13:17] <doko> cjwatson, but I'm afk again, so I'll leave the packages on p.c.c
[13:20] <cjwatson> roaksoax: I guess the alternative is dropping cman and gfs_controld from Required-{Start,Stop} in the init script rather than dropping the whole thing, but I don't know enough about gfs2
[13:21] <roaksoax> cjwatson: I'll investigate and take care of it. Thanks for point it out!
[13:21] <cjwatson> roaksoax: Cool, thanks.  Could you start with http://paste.ubuntu.com/8140684/ ?
[13:21] <mlankhorst> doko: I can't reproduce the crasher with llvm 3.5 and mesa 10.3-rc1, I will try to upload mesa 10.3 before flipping the switch..
[13:21] <doko> \o/
[13:21] <roaksoax> cjwatson: will do! thank you!
[13:27] <mlankhorst> I've ran over half the mesa tests now, and tried the ubuntu-ui-toolkit tests on it
[13:27] <mlankhorst> both had failures before
[13:48] <doko> cjwatson, how is your ocaml foo? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/183130799/supermin_5.1.9-1ubuntu1_5.1.9-1ubuntu2.diff.gz  this might require a proper fix in src/kernel.ml
[14:47] <kdeuser56> pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1361242
[15:13] <pitti> kdeuser56: thanks
[15:59] <kdeuser56> is noninteractive boot option still recommended for preseeding?
[16:18] <hallyn> doko: hi - slof is failing to build in utopic-proposed.  When I build it in a trusty container (using older gcc-defaults-powerpc-cross) it builds fine.  that package (gcc-defaults-powerpc-cross) is a bit of an enigma :)
[16:20] <doko> hallyn, -> porter-powerpc.canonical.com preprocessed source, and how it is called. the build log may please your eyes, but it doesn't help anybody else
[16:22] <hallyn> not sure how to parse that.  where on porter-powerpc.canonical.com is it?  I was thinking i'd try building 4.9.2 of gcc-defaults-powerpc-cross
[16:22] <hallyn> on porter-powerpc.canonical.com am i supposed to use schroot?  (no dchroot htere)
[16:23] <hallyn> hm, 4.9.2 was mentioned in email ubt don't see it avail
[16:33] <shadeslayer> anyone know how the autologin setup happens in ubiquity?
[16:34] <hallyn> doko: hm, I see that porter-powerpc.c.c:/home/doko/gcc/log shows segvs as well
[16:35] <hallyn> guess that's 100% unrelated
[16:40] <lullis> Hey guys... I have a quick question regarding how to register new indicators to be displayed on the panel from either unity-greeter or gtk-greeter.
[16:41] <lullis> I see that the conf files from the greeters have an entry to list which indicators to be active, but how do I add a new one? I was trying to find for .desktop files, but nothing showed up.
[17:05] <hallyn> doko: shnickities porter-powerpc.canonical.com has the exact same behavior - utopic fails, trusty builds
[17:05] <hallyn> maybe it's a core gcc bug
[18:01] <marvin-hh> Why doesn't AppArmor work after installation for Firefox? Alternatively, why is /bin/kmod executed by firefox?
[18:04] <sarnold> marvin-hh: on-demand loading of a network protocol is most likely; did you compile your kernel with ipv6 support as a module?
[18:04] <marvin-hh> sarnold: I am using -generic.
[18:05] <sarnold> marvin-hh: hunh. can you paste your DENIED line?
[18:06] <gatox> hi, i'm having issues to be able to cross-build ubuntu-system-settings for arm.. could anyone help me?? this is what is happening: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8140373/
[18:07] <Laney> gatox: it's busted since we added the qt dbus mock thing
[18:07] <marvin-hh> sarnold: http://paste.kde.org/pxpqrbpse/kogntk
[18:07] <seb128> Laney, :-(
[18:07] <gatox> Laney, ahhhhh.... any other way to do it?? i'm not being able to build it on the phone because installing only de u-s-s dependencies i run out of space
[18:08] <marvin-hh> sarnold: why would on demand loading of modules in -generic be any reason at all for apparmor complaining?
[18:08] <marvin-hh> sarnold: I mean: this is not something which should ever have ended up in a release.
[18:08] <Laney> gatox: porter machine or a PPA which builds arm
[18:08] <sarnold> marvin-hh: there's a reason why the firefox profile isn't turned on by default :)
[18:09] <Laney> btw AFAICS it comes down to this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755874 which is something I want to work on
[18:09] <sarnold> marvin-hh: maybe firefox is trying to load some kernel modules for ati-based glx or gle or similar? could be you're the first to use our firefox profile with an ATI video card
[18:09] <marvin-hh> sarnold: in that case, I would like to disable the profile.
[18:10] <sarnold> marvin-hh: aa-disable /usr/bin/firefox  ought to do it
[18:10] <marvin-hh> sarnold: after an upgrade it was on.
[18:10] <marvin-hh> sarnold: Profile for /usr/lib/firefox/firefox.sh not found, skipping
[18:11] <marvin-hh> sarnold: in short, that didn't work.
[18:11] <sarnold> marvin-hh: hrm, try aa-disable /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox   ?
[18:11] <sarnold> (I can't recall if it happily takes paths right to profiles or not..)
[18:12] <marvin-hh> sarnold: that seems to have worked.
[18:12] <sarnold> marvin-hh: nice
[18:12] <marvin-hh> sarnold: I don't understand how it was ever enabled otherwise.
[18:13] <sarnold> marvin-hh: me neither.
[18:13] <marvin-hh> sarnold: are you sure that upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04.1 cannot magically enable it?
[18:13] <sarnold> marvin-hh: it really should take some effort to turn on firefox..
[18:14] <marvin-hh> sarnold: it's not important now. Perhaps I turned it on a long time ago and am I only getting the messages in my face now.
[18:14] <sarnold> marvin-hh: could be that newer X drivers supported features that older releases didn't.. (I'm still guessing it was ATI drivers, though the evidence is pretty circumstantial)
[18:15] <sarnold> marvin-hh: if you want to investigate some time, try lsmod before running firefox, run firefox, visit whatever website kicked this off, then re-check loaded modules
[18:15] <sarnold> see what's new
[18:22] <cjwatson> doko: really pretty minimal, I'm afraid
[18:26] <doko> cjwatson, ?
[18:27] <cjwatson> doko: you asked how my ocaml knowledge was
[18:27] <cjwatson> I don't have much :)
[18:27] <cjwatson> ML classes from 15 years ago at university
[18:27] <doko> hallyn, sure, I'll look at it next week. won't get to it before without command line parameters and preprocessed source
[18:28] <doko> cjwatson, ahh, the supermin thing. yep, they do some string matching in src/kernel.ml, but I don't understand it :-/
[18:44] <Janusz> Hello. I don't want to code today, but need a good lecture to be better in Linux developing. What could You recommend?
[18:45] <marvin-hh> Janusz: there is no point in learning details about Linux unless you are optimizing something specially for Linux (which is still a bad idea, unless you are working for a >10B USD company).
[18:46] <marvin-hh> Janusz: and in that particular case, you wouldn't be asking this.
[18:46] <marvin-hh> Janusz: just learn the fundamentals.
[18:46] <Janusz> marvin-hh: Like?
[18:47] <marvin-hh> Janusz: like the top 5 of books on algorithms on Amazon.
[18:47] <marvin-hh> Janusz: don't waste your time on 'agile' methods.
[18:47] <marvin-hh> Janusz:
[18:47] <marvin-hh> Janusz: you can better also not waste your time with Ubuntu.
[18:48] <marvin-hh> Janusz: Ubuntu only tolerates newbies.
[18:48] <marvin-hh> Janusz: Ubuntu's only goal is to make you dependent on their corporate support once you start using it for anything important.
[18:48] <marvin-hh> Janusz: Ubuntu is not designed to last.
[18:49] <Janusz> Thank You.
[19:12] <Kangarooo> how to subscribe to wiki pages? i just want to know is there some place where i can remoe my subscritions? Somehow im subscribed to every wiki page and i want it to stop
[19:52] <rww> Kangarooo: log in to wiki.ubuntu.com, then go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=userprefs&sub=notification
[19:53] <Kangarooo> rww: there everything is empty
[19:53] <Kangarooo> rww: but still i get the emails
[20:04] <rww> Kangarooo: the "subscribed wiki pages" box is empty?
[20:04] <Kangarooo> rww: yes
[20:04] <rww> Do you have any other wiki accounts somehow? (multiple email addresses forwarding over, etc.)?
[20:05] <Kangarooo> rww: nope
[20:06] <rww> and they're notifications for wiki.ubuntu.com and not help.ubuntu.com/community ?
[20:07]  * rww just remembered that both of those exist...
[20:18] <Kangarooo> rww: theres empty but was ticked some checkboxes on. i removed them.
[20:25] <Kangarooo> emails still comming
[20:33] <hallyn> doko: ok, thanks, i don't think there is a rush, but i can point you to exact commands and source in a bit  - thx
[20:44] <Kangarooo> rww: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1361361
[20:48] <roaksoax> cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8143984/
[20:48] <roaksoax> cjwatson: seems that it is safe to remove the init script
[20:49] <cjwatson> roaksoax: Cool, please do.  Do we need a debian/gfs2-utils.maintscript or something to do rm_conffile?
[20:49] <cjwatson> (Not sure how that interacts with the other init script stuff, e.g. if you need to imitate /usr/share/debhelper/autoscripts/postrm-init
[20:49] <cjwatson> )
[20:50] <roaksoax> cjwatson: I'll look into that!
[21:00] <roaksoax> cjwatson: and yeah I do not think we need postrm-init logic, as there really no daemon that we are running. The init script was just looking at /etc/fstab to mount/unmount
[21:00] <roaksoax> cjwatson: but I don't think it would hurt adding it
[21:01] <cjwatson> ok, whatever's easiest then
[21:01] <cjwatson> I don't really know gfs2 at all :)
[21:51] <roaksoax> cjwatson: ok.. this does it... http://paste.ubuntu.com/8144463/ I'll upload
[22:16] <cjwatson> roaksoax: rock, thanks
[22:42] <JasonBourne> Hello


[09:46] <luc4> Hi! I opened this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/997767. Now I see the state changed to fix released and points to this report: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10. What does this mean? How can I test the fix?
[09:46] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 997767 in linux (Ubuntu) "10ec:8139 Network connection rtl8139 lost after some hours of inactivity and comes up again on user interaction" [Medium,Confirmed]
[09:46] <ubot2`> bugzilla.kernel.org bug 10 in Config-Interrupts "USB HCs may have improper interrupt configuration with ACPI in IOAPIC mode" [High,Closed: code_fix]
[12:01] <chilicuil> good question luc4, it seems like the bug watch was added by Colin King, so you may want to ask him in the report, personally I dont see much sense because the report was fixed long time ago, it should be living in the vanilla kernel by now, the fixed status corresponds to the bug kernel.org, in ubuntu it's still open with importance medium and status confirmed
[12:02] <luc4> So,does it makes sense to ask in the report?
[12:02] <chilicuil> yep, in the report hosted in launchpad
[12:03] <luc4> thank you very much
[12:03] <chilicuil> np, thanks to you, for helping with testing =)
[21:46] <penguin42> hmm so I've just written a fix for bug 1008011  but then noticed it's fixed upstream at sourceforge but not at debian yet
[21:46] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1008011 in barrage (Ubuntu) "Barrage does not open - crashes with SIGABRT" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008011


[00:00] <sarnold> oh that'd be nice if it's "just" a funky cable
[00:01] <boxrick> Yea, will see. If its just the CD drive bay its no big deal. If the actual MiniSAS connector is broken or the raid controller then that will suck since the entire reason I bought this was for throwing a tonne of 3.5" disks in :p
[00:05] <sarnold> yeah I've heard those are nice little systems for zfs
[00:08] <boxrick> Hmm interesting its still locking up on linux-firmware even without errors.
[00:11] <sarnold> :( :(
[00:11] <thyriaen> sarnold, are you around ?
[00:11] <sarnold> boxrick: here's the postinst script https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S7HSxzPHsB/
[00:11] <sarnold> thyriaen: yeah
[00:12] <thyriaen> well, you won't like it but with the 4.20 kernel everything works flawlessly
[00:12] <thyriaen> even the usbc-ethernet adapter works perfectly now
[00:12] <sarnold> thyriaen: good news and bad news :) good news is, there's a chance for a fix :) bad news is, now you've got another twenty boots in your future...
[00:13] <thyriaen> sarnold, well i'm quite happy to just run this version - or do you think i should really dig in deep and try to figure out what's the issue ?
[00:14] <sarnold> thyriaen: some day you'll probably have a reason to want to run a newer kernel
[00:14] <thyriaen> and i dont have to run 20 kernels
[00:14] <thyriaen> its just log(20) :)
[00:14] <thyriaen> if i always half the steps
[00:16] <thyriaen> alright i will probably need about a week to make sure i get the right verion where it fails
[00:16] <thyriaen> so i'll be back :p
[00:16] <sarnold> thyriaen: heh, that's the thing though -- twenty boots only covers around one million commits.. between 4.20 and 5.whatever is a *lot* of commits..
[00:17] <thyriaen> awh
[00:17] <sarnold> hopefully the kernel team ppa gets you quite close
[00:17] <thyriaen> but i can't be that thorough
[00:17] <sarnold> actually building your own to bisect would be a lot less fun, but sometimes necessary
[00:17] <thyriaen> _a lot less fun_
[00:19] <thyriaen> anyways, ill do my digging - when i got more info - im gonna come back and report my findings
[00:42] <bray90820> Does ubuntu 20.04 support .desktop files
[00:45] <quadrathoch2> bray90820 yes
[00:45] <bray90820> Well as of right now my .desktop file opens in text editor
[00:46] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/raw/F1GZjq67
[00:49] <quadrathoch2> well yeah that's the norm. I just put them in the applications folder and then they work :/ bray90820 sorry, can't help too much
[00:49] <bray90820> Anyone else?
[00:53] <sarnold> bray90820: two questions: (a) do you need to set the executable bit on these things? (b) do you need to give a full path to nautilus?
[00:55] <bray90820> Not sure about ether of those but but it is set as exicutable
[01:20] <spiffdaddy> where should the directory be located for a drive mounting automatically at boot?
[01:21] <sarnold> check /etc/fstab, it should give the mountpoint
[01:21] <spiffdaddy> should it be in /home/user/directory?  or /home/directory?
[01:21] <sarnold> (unless it's a zfs dataset or perhaps btrfs dataset, I don't know how btrfs works)
[01:21] <spiffdaddy> i mean, where should i create the actually directory for it to mount ?
[01:21] <sarnold> whereever you need it to exist, I guess
[01:21] <spiffdaddy> sorry* it's going to be a network drive
[01:26] <DoYouKnow> is there any way to install ubuntu to a hard disk (live version) using only an iso file?
[01:26] <DoYouKnow> on ubuntu
[01:28] <Bashing-om> DoYouKnow: While there is ^ it takes some expertise: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot  .
[01:45] <bleb> anyone know why wired networking would not be working?
[01:46] <bleb> i just tested on void and openbsd, and this wire is able to provide an ip address via dhcp and then a connection to the network
[01:46] <bleb> but ubuntu 20.04 is failing to do that
[01:46] <bleb> how would i troubleshoot?
[01:49] <tatertotz> bleb: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[01:49] <bleb> i'm chatting from my laptop booted to openbsd using the wired connection
[01:49] <bleb> so i know the problem is not the network
[01:50] <bleb> i guess i could try a livecd on the same computer, to see if it is a hardware issue or an os issue
[01:50] <tatertotz> bleb: logs, network manager, ping and tracepath and route
[01:51] <tatertotz> bleb: does wifi work? does wifi exist on the system?
[01:51] <bleb> no wifi on the ubuntu computer
[01:54] <bleb> ping <IP_ADDRESS> says "ping: connect: Network is unreachable"
[01:54] <bleb> tracepath says "1: send faild \ Resume: pmtu 65535"
[01:55] <tatertotz> bleb: you'd want to do some of the other things first only using ping when applicable
[01:55] <bleb> the networkmanager icon in the menu bar shows a wifi triangle icon with no bars
[01:55] <tatertotz> bleb: are the link/actt lights on the nic illuminated? how about the lights on the switch / router port?
[01:55] <bleb> if i click it i can select "Wired connection 1"
[01:56] <tatertotz> bleb: that's "physical" layer stuff...check that off
[01:56] <bleb> then the icon turns into a spinny thing but never connects
[01:56] <bleb> the ethernet port has a green light and a blinking yellow light
[01:56] <tatertotz> bleb: what are the results for checking for link/act lights on all sides?
[01:57] <bleb> router side also good
[01:57] <tatertotz> bleb: reseat cable while simultaneously checking logs
[01:57] <bleb> how do i check the logs?
[01:58] <tatertotz> bleb: i don't see anything is NOT acceptable answer or response from log viewing in the above context
[01:58] <tatertotz> bleb: var/log/
[01:59] <tatertotz> bleb: can you tether your iPhone/Android to get the PC online to trouble shoot in real time
[01:59] <tatertotz> ???
[02:00] <bleb> the pc has no wireless card
[02:00] <bleb> so no
[02:00] <tatertotz> bleb: "USB" tether
[02:00] <bleb> the end of dmesg says "Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx"
[02:01] <bleb> also, "kaudit_printk_skb: 16 callbacks suppressed"
[02:01] <tatertotz> bleb: if you can't trouble shoot real time...just boot a LiveCD/LiveUSB and rule out what you can, if it's your installed OS reinstall or restore from image back up or snapshot
[02:05] <nuxil> can anyone reccoment a good editor. something like i have on windows. notepad++ . the default text editor in ubuntu is shait.
[02:06] <newq> Hey, why does my laptop hang on this screen when I boot? https://i.imgur.com/Bk5Zl9R.jpg I had it booted to a full desktop before and now it does this. All I did last time was install Chromium and run some updates and set up the fingerprint reader. I'm at a loss. :(
[02:07] <bleb> aight
[02:07] <bleb> making a new installation usb
[02:07] <bleb> that didnt last long
[02:13] <nuxil> newq, i had the same issue after i installed ubuntu on a virtual machine.  but im guessing youre not using a virtual machine. i installed some extension for the virual machine. upped the cpus to 6 cores and 4096 ram and 128mb video mem. and it whent away.
[02:14] <newq> Well that doesn't help much, but I appreciate your input
[02:15] <nuxil> cant you press esc or something during boot to get rid of the splash screen and see whats doing on in the background ?
[02:16] <newq> Yeah, none of the keyboard shortcuts I've read about seem to do anything. I haven't specifically tried esc
[02:16] <nuxil> i dont think esc works tho.
[02:17] <nuxil> but give it a shot anyway :p
[02:20] <newq> Okay, not only did escape work to show me some text flying by, but I was actually able to get to the login screen now... but I'm sure it's going to do it again, since it's been intermittent before. So this still doesn't fix the issue.
[02:20] <nuxil> will it allow you do go to tty2. "alt F2" or whatever it
[02:20] <newq> I'm gonna reboot and see if it does it again
[02:20] <newq> (and no, alt+Fwhatever didn't work when I tried earlier today)
[02:20] <nuxil> the key combination was
[02:20] <nuxil> oki
[02:22] <newq> Alright, I rebooted and it's hung on that screen again. I'm gonna press esc and see if that "fixes" it.
[02:22] <newq> Alright, now esc doesn't even do it
[02:22] <nuxil> try Ctrl C :p
[02:23] <newq> will do
[02:23] <nuxil> im just guessing here. sound like you need a livecd to do some recovery
[02:25] <nuxil> so. can anyone reccomend a good editor for linux. this default "text editor" is awefull to use. lacks so many features.
[02:25] <nuxil> *linux -> ubuntu
[02:25] <pavlos> how about sumlime?
[02:25] <pavlos> sublime
[02:25]  * nuxil googles
[02:25] <leftyfb> nuxil: vim
[02:26] <nuxil> vim. heck no.
[02:26] <leftyfb> nuxil: this is a support channel. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions
[02:26] <newq> Alright, it seems like esc only works if I press it immediately - as soon as that loading screen appears. Once it's up for long enough, it doesn't do anything. (also, ctrl + c doesn't work either)
[02:28] <nuxil> theres a joke about vim.  take a person who never used it before. and open it for it him/her. now tell him to exit.. and volla you got a random char generator :p
[02:28] <nuxil> leftyfb, ok. i'll ask in there
[02:30] <pavlos> nuxil: https://www.sublimetext.com/
[02:31] <nuxil> pavlos, hmm im confused. is it payware or freeware. i see a buy button there
[02:31] <leftyfb> nuxil: sudo snap install sublime-text
[02:32] <pavlos> nuxil: you can run the freeware w/o issues.
[02:32] <nuxil> ok. thanks
[02:36] <newq> So how do I permanently fix it?
[02:49] <futureRich> if i install ubuntu, then there is no g++?
[02:51] <glguy> futureRich: To have g++ in your Ubuntu install you'll have to install it. I believe a way to get a basic set of build tools (including a C++ compiler) is to install the build-essential metapackage
[02:52] <futureRich> how can i install g++? glguy ?
[02:53] <WoC> sudo apt install build-essential
[02:54] <WoC> devscripts is also handy
[03:13] <jacks> hi, we have a uat server running 18.04.4 but the prod server is running 18.04 is there an easyway to update prod to 18.04.4, i've tried dist-upgrade but nothing is available
[03:16] <leftyfb> jacks: sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade
[03:16] <jacks> oh right well thank you
[03:48] <jacks> hi, i was in here earlier, i have a prod and uat server, uat runs 18.04.4 but prods runs 18.04 - i tried running dist-upgrade/upgrade as suggested, but it advises 0 packages to upgrade
[03:48] <jacks> is there another method of getting the prod server to 18.04.4
[03:48] <sarnold> jacks: what makes you think it isn't on 18.04.4?
[03:48] <sarnold> jacks: are they running different kernels?
[03:49] <sarnold> jacks: you could install the HWE kernel on both, or the release kernel on both
[03:51] <jacks> sarnold: yes they are running different versions of kernel, prod is 4.4.0-186-generic, uat is 4.15.0-112-generic
[03:52] <jacks> i was checking the output of lsb_release
[03:52] <sarnold> jacks: aha; the instructions on how to install hwe kernels are here, in case you want to move production forward: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[03:53] <jacks> would that also update the lsb release output?
[03:53] <sarnold> I'm not sure
[03:53] <sarnold> jacks: afaik it's undocumented how to roll back to release kernel, in case you want to leave producion alone but bring uat back to match
[03:54] <sarnold> jacks: but this shold give a starting point of which packages to uninstall or install, depending upon which way you'd like to go
[03:54] <jacks> all i know is this certbot software the dev guys want works on uat but not prod and we suspect its because of different package releases
[03:55] <sarnold> hmm somethingas mundane as certbot feels like it ought not care what kernel is running
[03:55] <jacks> thats what i thought too
[03:55] <sarnold> but still, if you'd like to try running the HWE kernel on prod, that's at least the easy direction :) heh
[03:56] <jacks> thanks
[04:13] <icecube45> question - why does clicking on an program in the sidebar show all programs if multiple of that program are running? (and is there any way to change that). Running 20.04
[04:13] <icecube45> i.e. if i have three terminal windows open, I click the terminal icon, it shows all my windows. I'd expect it to only show the terminals I have open
[04:14] <gnoob> that seems strange
[04:15] <icecube45> see honestly i dont know if this is default behavior, or something that was messed up during my upgrade from 18
[04:16] <gnoob> can't confirm. Not running ubuntu right now.  But I have been hanging out here and have not seen anyone else ask the question.
[04:23] <icecube45> https://imgur.com/a/de87JkD
[04:23] <icecube45> this is what I'm referring to ^
[04:23] <icecube45> my side bar vs when I click on the terminal icon
[04:28] <nuxil> that is def not the default behavioure.
[04:28] <Mibix> ugh I can not get rid of this warning message
[04:28] <sarnold> icecube45: did you install any gnome extensions?
[04:28] <Mibix> subject: Cron <root@mibix-module>    cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[04:28] <Mibix> body: /bin/sh: 1: Cannot fork
[04:29] <icecube45> not that i know of sarnold
[04:29] <nuxil> root ? omg  :p
[04:29] <Mibix> randomly get that email
[04:29] <icecube45> unless i did a long time ago and it carried over with the upgrade
[04:29] <Mibix> i dont even have any crons running as root
[04:32] <gnoob> is that about the same screen you get when pressing Alt-tab?
[04:33] <sarnold> Mibix: you probably do
[04:33] <sarnold> Mibix: chcek the headers of the email
[04:34] <icecube45> gnoob, my alt tab is different
[04:34] <sarnold> I mean there's a chance it's not from your system, but there's a chance that it *is* from your system, and your system is very very unhappy
[04:34] <icecube45> shows little window previews in one row
[04:38] <icecube45> hey i reset /org/gnome and things looks normal now
[04:38] <icecube45> woohoo
[04:40] <sarnold> icecube45: nice; bummer it was frustrating for so long, but I'm glad you got it working
[04:41] <Mibix> sarnold i do not
[04:41] <icecube45> no idea how it happened, but I wouldn't put it past me as having screwed it up months ago
[04:41] <Mibix> everyone is commented out in my root cron file
[04:41] <Mibix> *everything
[04:43] <Mibix> i have two running is my user
[04:45] <sarnold> Mibix: your /etc/crontab doesn't run *anything*?
[04:46] <Mibix> mibix@mibix-module:~$ sudo crontab -l
[04:46] <Mibix> mibix@mibix-module:~$
[04:46] <Mibix> lol
[04:46] <Mibix> i have two in my user
[04:48] <Mibix> my users one has two
[04:48] <Mibix> errr
[04:48] <Mibix> im too tired for this lol
[04:50] <sarnold> Mibix: the user root crontab is VERY different from the system root crontab
[04:51] <matsaman> yeah u-s-e-r, r-o-o-t
[04:51] <matsaman> different
[04:52] <sarnold> Mibix: the user root, if root has a crontab, would be stored in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root -- the error message in your email shows signs of being generated by the crontab /etc/crontab -- which is something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than the user root crontab :)
[04:52] <Mibix> ooooooo
[04:53] <Mibix> now we are getting somewhere
[04:53] <Mibix> https://paste.debian.net/1158260/
[04:53] <Mibix> that first one!!!
[04:53] <sarnold> there we go :)
[04:55] <Mibix> what does that even do
[04:57] <Mibix> oh runs everything in that folder
[04:57] <Mibix> and there is nothing in that folder
[04:57] <Mibix> well there is a placeholder file but that is
[05:08] <Mibix> changed it to 17 *    * * *   root    cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly 2>&1 > /dev/null
[05:09] <sarnold> yikes
[05:09] <sarnold> now you're not going to get emails when it fail
[05:09] <Mibix> good
[05:09] <Mibix> i dont have anything in cron.hourly
[05:10] <Mibix> so i shouldnt be getting these annoying emails anyway
[06:17] <derek0883> Hello, I use live-build to build a ubuntu iso, after bootup my iso, it went to black screen, I enabled ttyS0, from console, I didn't see error msg in /var/log/Xorg.0.log,  systemctl status lightdm.service show it running ok, how can I figure out why it is black sreen. Thanks
[06:20] <nuxil> seems like a common issue with ubuntu.
[06:20] <nuxil> youre not the 1st one today having that issue
[06:20] <nuxil> sadly. no one has a solution it seems like
[06:23] <derek0883> :(
[06:25] <nuxil> i had the issue myself. but it was running ubuntu in a virtual machine. i guess youre not.
[06:25] <derek0883> I tried unpack casper director from ubuntu official iso, and replace to my ISO, it works
[06:26] <derek0883> I tested in VM,
[06:26] <nuxil> so you got this issue in vm?
[06:27] <derek0883> yes
[06:27] <derek0883> is it works on real PC?
[06:28] <derek0883> I grab live-build script from here, https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build
[06:28] <nuxil> ahh., im using virtualbox. i did change system settings from default. to use 6 cpu cores. 4096 mem and 128 mb ram + installed the extensions for the virtualbox. that fixed it for me tho.
[06:28] <nuxil> *128 video ram
[06:29] <derek0883> So maybe video RAM is not enough?
[06:30] <nuxil> could be. mine was set to 16mb as default
[06:31] <vater> how to play ubuntu streams on android
[06:31] <derek0883> I using QEMU,
[06:31] <vater> best decoder
[06:31] <nuxil> i set it to 128mb which is max it allowed me
[06:31] <vater> derek0883 qemu on sndroid?
[06:34] <pagios> hello community, i am trying to install ubuntu desktop on a DL180 Gen10 proliant HP server, it fails to boot i just get a ubuntu logo and the mouse and everything hangs upon boot
[06:35] <nuxil> lol
[06:35] <nuxil> sorry.. that was rude.
[06:36] <nuxil> pagios, common issue without solution so far.
[06:36] <pagios> nuxil: should i boot without graphical interface or should i install another flavor?
[06:37]  * vater pumps arms
[06:37] <vater> got the tranceponder going
[06:37] <nuxil> idk. thats up to you. i had that issue myself, but im running ubuntu in virtualbox and managed to fix it by setting more cores, mem and installing extension for virtualbox
[06:38] <vater> nobody listens to techn0! let's go
[06:39] <vater> tranceponder a fusion reactor
[06:40] <vater> nuxil what is tje base for virtualbox
[06:41] <nuxil> vater, what do you mean?
[06:42] <vater> what is runningvirtualbox
[06:42] <nuxil> thats is virtual machine. like.. running linux in windows
[06:43] <vater> are you runningubu to on a windows virtualbox?
[06:44] <nuxil> yes i have win10 that runs virtualbox with ubuntu
[06:44] <vater> not bad huh
[06:44] <derek0883> QEMU doesn't allow me to change video ram,
[06:44] <derek0883> I will try to install virtualbox
[06:45] <derek0883> vedio ram is 16M
[06:45] <Ben64> qemu lets you change video ram
[06:45] <Ben64> and it's also better than vbox
[06:45] <vater> derek0883 better dont do it
[06:45] <vater> dont use emulators
[06:46] <derek0883> how to change
[06:46] <derek0883> I using virtsh edit ubuntu
[06:46] <vater> buy another box
[06:46] <ocean> pagios: you could consider installing server in stead of desktop on a Proliant (server)? See also this link about booting while passing extra boot options to grub: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1120364/installing-ubuntu-desktop-on-hp-microserver-gen10
[06:46] <Ben64> you can just edit the xml
[06:46] <WyZeGuY> derek0883: have you tried OpenEmu?
[06:47] <pagios> ocean: i mamanged to get it working ith nomodeset
[06:47] <WyZeGuY> derek0883: oh wait nvm
[06:47] <vater> derek0883 something bad about iy
[06:47] <ocean> pagios: there you go :)
[06:47] <pagios> but the question is is it relatioable as a system ?
[06:47] <pagios> i mean i am gonnause it for production and that makde me a bit worried
[06:47] <vater> virtualization is not done right
[06:48] <ocean> pagios: why not use the server edition then?
[06:48] <ocean> pagios: https://ubuntu.com/download/server
[06:48] <pagios> isnt it the same , but desktop has the gui thing ?
[06:48] <vater> For myself I am thinking of usinh windows xp again
[06:49] <pagios> idea is i will use virtualbox on it and would likethe gui thing
[06:49] <pagios> so i said i go with desktop minial
[06:49] <derek0883> I tried no modeset, not working on QEMU
[06:49] <vater> nuxil you got windows 10 not bad huh
[06:50] <nuxil> vater, it has it pros and cons :p
[06:50] <derek0883> virtualbox with 64M vram, not working, still black screen After I clicked try ubuntu button
[06:50] <vater> derekp0883 I told you dont do it
[06:50] <nuxil> derek0883, did you grab the extension for virtualbox ?
[06:50] <pagios> is it normal for it for the 20.04 to take like 3 minutes to boot on a proliant DL180 ?:/
[06:51] <derek0883> no, it is a live ubuntu iso
[06:51] <pagios> i get the HP Enterprise, then ubuntu logo
[06:51] <pagios> but it takes around 3 minutes!
[06:51] <derek0883> I build the iso by myself, using live-build
[06:51] <vater> ·you could end up breeding botnets
[06:51] <nuxil> vater, what are you talking about?
[06:52] <vater> how to keep chrome open on android playing hbr1.com
[06:52] <derek0883> virtualbox, max vram is 128M, still black screen
[06:52] <vater> some smart thing keeps closing it
[06:52] <derek0883> maybe it not related to vram, some issue of initrd in casper ?
[06:53] <vater> hbr1.com
[06:54] <vater> derek0883 don't listen
[07:01] <nelgin> Hi all
[07:02] <vater> dont use qemu until you check it out for working good
[07:02] <nelgin> Where's the 'proper' location to put included conf files for a virtual host in Ubuntu 20.04? After coming from CentOS/RedHat, I don't much like the apache2 layout but I'd rather do things the "ubuntu" way.
[07:02] <vater> you may lose yourlife
[07:02] <vater> skullbocjs and r.e.m
[07:02] <vater> mining
[07:02] <vater> you get turned intoa bitcoin walkinh corpse
[07:03] <vater> dont use emulators you cant trust
[07:04] <vater> god is in tje upper rooms doing battles for middle earth
[07:57] <sgs> Hi all. After upgrading from Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04... the system still boots using the old 4.15.0-112-generic kernel. How do I fix that?
[09:08] <dcon> hi
[09:19] <eedgit3> Um, when I change my PublicKeyAuth to 'yes' - publickey auth stops works. Changing it back and it takes 10 minutes after restarting ssh for it to let me back in? :S
[09:20] <eedgit3> oh...redis handles SSH also
[10:23] <lapion> When is 20.04.1 going to be released for upgrading from 19.10 and 18.04 ?
[10:26] <lapion> NVM 19.10 upgrade allready works however 18.04.6 still no upgrade to 20.04.1
[10:27] <oerheks> august 6, IIRC
[10:27] <oerheks> !ltsupgrade
[10:35] <lapion> oerheks, thanks, I got several systems to upgrade using the -d options without a problem..
[10:35] <lapion> For the last remaining I am waiting for 20.04.1 to be confirmed as lst upgradable.
[10:36] <lapion> LTS
[11:06] <ElectroXexual> How do I hide (or enable auto hide) the kde panel (kicker) from linux shell?
[11:06] <ElectroXexual> I want to do it so I can Hide/Show it through a global shortcut.
[11:34] <futureRich> how can i delete folder including sub folder and file?
[11:36] <oerheks> select and delete, or shift + del to delete directly, without moving to trash
[11:37] <oerheks> comandline does that too, so be careful :-P
[11:38] <futureRich> with command line
[11:38] <futureRich> oerheks: ?
[11:40] <oerheks> time to do some reading?
[11:40] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/command-line-for-beginners#5-moving-and-manipulating-files
[11:41] <futureRich> no time to read it
[11:41] <futureRich> i m busy now
[11:41] <oerheks> interesting.
[11:41] <oerheks> use the gui then ?
[11:42] <futureRich> i want to use command line
[11:42] <futureRich> like specialist
[11:42] <oerheks> specialists read the simple manuals provided.
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:04] <CtrlC> hi
[12:05] <CtrlC> Anyone can recommend a good tutorial on setting up an openvpn server?
[12:05] <CtrlC> I found this script but idk how trustable it is: https://git.io/vpn
[12:06] <geirha> don't cross post
[12:42] <yogg> Hi
[12:43] <yogg> I just make some test with ubuntu 20.04 and btrfs. There is a package "btrfsmaintenance" which is not installed by default. Should I install and use it? Should I simply do my own cron once a month. Is there a best practice for this?
[12:44] <Rob_Jones> is chroot jail good for security?
[12:45] <oerheks> yogg, i think you want btrfsmaintenance , for scrub and more .. https://github.com/kdave/btrfsmaintenance
[12:46] <oerheks> Rob_Jones, that is the idea, yes.
[12:51] <yogg> oerheks thx
[13:01] <Furai> Hey, I'm about to replace a battery in my laptop. Should I somehow reset battery stats?
[13:02] <oerheks> never heard of that, battery stats are created with data retrieved from the battery itself.
[13:03] <oerheks> * compared with a database
[13:03] <Furai> Isn't it tweaking the way it charges battery based on that history?
[13:04] <oerheks> err, i would not tweak it, besides the options in TLP
[13:04] <oerheks> !info tlp
[13:05] <Furai> I had been using tlp in the past.
[13:05] <oerheks> i replaced a battery in an old laptop recently, not seen any odd values
[13:06] <Furai> Mkey.
[13:06] <oerheks> duo core, centrino-era
[13:06] <oerheks> full 2,5 hrs uptime again :-D
[13:10] <Devrim> Only a week left for the new ubuntu point release :3
[13:15] <Furai> Chat, chat. CHAT!
[13:15] <Furai> Yeah, will upgrade my servers then.
[13:25] <CtrlC> is there any way to tunnel the whole system over a ssh connection? Like how a VPN does but with socks5 basically.
[13:27] <geirha> CtrlC: sshuttle
[13:28] <quadrathoch2> CtrlC don't crosspost, tha'ts seen as rude
[13:28] <edson> hello
[13:28] <littlebit> hi people, i'm setting up for the first time an https server based on apache and I wanted to know how to generate a certificate chain
[13:28] <littlebit> can someone provide me a link of how to do that with a basic self signed certificate?
[13:30] <leftyfb> littlebit: just use letsencrypt. It's free
[13:33] <littlebit> leftyfb: yeah, but I have my domain for my local lan called: home.lab which isn't something used for the public internet
[13:33] <littlebit> leftyfb: or does letsencrypt generate certificates for that?
[13:34] <leftyfb> littlebit: it can. But why do you need an ssl certificate for a local domain?
[13:35] <littlebit> well i have nextcloud installed on my local server, and the nextcloud app only wants an ssl connection
[13:35] <npu> littlebit, openssl req -new -newkey rsa:4096 -x509 -sha256 -days 365 -nodes -out MyCertificate.crt -keyout MyKey.key
[13:35] <leftyfb> geirha: sshuttle does not support a feature to route all traffic through the ssh tunnel
[13:35] <littlebit> which forces me to do that\
[13:36] <leftyfb> littlebit: I would still go with letsencrypt. But yeah, you can generate one manually which you'll need to maintain
[13:37] <quadrathoch2> littlebit you could also use nextcloud without ssl, you would just need to force http://
[13:38] <littlebit> i'm able to generate the certificate. I'm using ubuntu snap and it has the snap package for nextcloud.
[13:39] <littlebit> there i can enable the https with nextcloud.enable-https but it really insists on a chain
[13:40] <leftyfb> littlebit: https://www.digicert.com/kb/csr-ssl-installation/ubuntu-server-with-apache2-openssl.htm
[13:40] <leftyfb> littlebit: first result on google for "ubuntu generate ssl certificate apache"
[13:40] <littlebit> leftyfb: i use duckduckgo :D
[13:41] <leftyfb> ok, then the link I posted is the 3rd result
[13:41] <littlebit> yep
[13:41] <leftyfb> the 2 results above it are fine as well
[13:42] <littlebit> leftyfb: there is a line that goes: SSLCertificateChainFile /path/to/DigiCertCA.crt
[13:42] <littlebit> how do you generate that
[13:42] <littlebit> ah scratch that
[13:43] <leftyfb> littlebit: you follow the instructions
[13:43] <leftyfb> you can also use the first result on duckduckgo: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-self-signed-ssl-certificate-for-apache-in-ubuntu-16-04
[13:45] <CtrlC> geirha, thank you so much!
[13:46] <leftyfb> CtrlC: sshuttle will not route all traffic through it's tunnel. It only allows you to access the subnets on the other side. There are tricks to use sshuttle and other programs, but sshuttle will not do it on it's own
[13:46] <geosmile> There is a command that is being run every month - I cant find it in /etc/rc.local or in crontab -e - any other ideas?
[13:46] <CtrlC> leftyfb, What do you mean exactly?
[13:47] <leftyfb> CtrlC: I mean, sshuttle alone will not do what you're asking
[13:47] <CtrlC> I don't know what those subnet things mean.
[13:47] <CtrlC> leftyfb, what should I do then?
[13:48] <leftyfb> CtrlC: why do you need to route all traffic through ssh as opposed to setting up a proper VPN?
[13:48] <oerheks> all traffic over ssh is re-inventing vpn
[13:48] <quadrathoch2> geosmile systemd-timers?
[13:48] <geirha> I use sshuttle to avoid vpn
[13:49] <CtrlC> leftyfb, I just want to hide my ip to some api server while I make calls to it using node and python libraries.
[13:49] <CtrlC> leftyfb, I thought it's easier than a VPN to setup.
[13:49] <CtrlC> I've tried wiregaurd but not much luck. It doesn't connect anything.
[13:50] <CtrlC> The systemd service on the client starts but I can't access anything.
[13:50] <CtrlC> geirha, is it any good at hiding IP?
[13:50] <leftyfb> CtrlC: you know what, a litle digging and I'm wrong. You can use sshuttle by specifying <IP_ADDRESS>/0
[13:50] <geirha> no idea, not what I use it for
[13:50] <leftyfb> CtrlC: sshuttle -r username@sshserver <IP_ADDRESS>/0 -vv
[13:50] <CtrlC> leftyfb, so it works as if a VPN does?
[13:51] <leftyfb> in my quick tests, yes
[13:51] <CtrlC> Thank you all.
[13:52] <leftyfb> TIL :)
[13:53] <geirha> doesn't do so well with ipv6 on ubuntu though
[14:16] <cybrNaut> does the Ubuntu project use CloudFlare for anything, like documentation?
[14:17] <oerheks> with the cloudflase outage, ubuntu did not go down
[14:18] <oerheks> sometimes it does not load instantly, F5 helps
[14:18] <cybrNaut> that's good news.. a good start.
[14:20] <cybrNaut> Mint is putting a signficant amount of the documentation in CloudFlare's corporate walled-garden of privacy abuse, so I'm running away from that.. switching to Ubuntu
[14:20] <cybrNaut> Is there still an Amazon icon on the Ubuntu desktop?
[14:21] <quadrathoch2> cybrNaut nope
[14:21] <lobge> exit
[14:21] <cybrNaut> that was quite a turn off for me that caused me to ditch Ubuntu yrs ago
[14:21] <cybrNaut> glad to hear it's gone
[14:29] <oxek> what's the most appropriate way of remapping CapsLock key to act like the Esc key?
[14:33] <pavlos> geosmile: look at /etc/crontab ... 52 6	1 * *	root	test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly )
[14:36] <AaronMT> !warty
[14:39] <leftyfb> AaronMT: why?
[14:40] <rfm> oxek, looks like "XKBOPTIONS=caps:escape" in /etc/default/keyboard would do it.
[14:40] <oxek> rfm: so only with root privileges then?
[14:41] <oxek> and it applies to all users too. Well I guess I can somehow make that work.
[14:41] <oxek> thanks
[14:42] <rfm> oxek, there's a way to set the xkb options in the user session, but I forget it. looking...
[14:48] <rfm> oxek, it's the "setxkbmap" command.  looks something like "setxkbmap us '' caps:escape"?  need to arrange to have that run at session start..
[14:49] <oxek> which file is the proper file to use in ubuntu for adding this autostart entry? Probably not .bashrc
[14:53] <geosmile> ntpdate -18.04- 30 Jul 10:53:16 ntpdate[3747]: no servers can be used, exiting
[14:53] <geosmile> any ideas on how to fix this?
[14:55] <rfm> oxek, I've used the "session" settings in xfce for such in the past, don't know about gnome equivalent.  putting it in .profile, guarded with a check that $XDG_SESSION_TYPE is x11 seems reasonable.
[14:57] <tatertotz> geosmile: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[14:57] <oxek> rfm: seems reasonable, now I just need to learn how to do that. I'll make it work. Thanks.
[14:57] <geosmile> tatertotz, nope - remote machine
[14:58] <tatertotz> geosmile: remote machine has internet access and you have administrative access to remote machine right now?
[14:58] <geosmile> yes
[14:58] <tatertotz> geosmile: in terminal>     timedatectl|nc termbin.com 9999
[14:58] <tatertotz> geosmile: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[15:01] <grkblood13> I have two kernels listed in /lib/modules: 4.9.140 and 4.9.140-tegra. 4.9.140 was built today but I don't know how to use it. when I run uname -a "4.9.140-tegra" is listed. how do I switch to the new one?
[15:01] <geosmile> tatertotz, https://pastebin.com/9aLerP41
[15:03] <Rob_Jones> anyone had any experience here with FREEBSD
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> Rob_Jones: this is the ubuntu support channel
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Rob_Jones
[15:04] <Rob_Jones> there was a followup question
[15:05] <Rob_Jones> i wanted to see how i would jail on ubuntu
[15:05] <legreffier> Rob_Jones: the equivalent would be to use docker
[15:06] <Rob_Jones> any reading material you could recommend setting docker up on ubuntu cli
[15:09] <AlexMax> Is there a way to get a more up-to-date GNOME?  I'm having some crashing issues with the screenshot tool and this fix was poitned out to me, which was for a point release version one past what Ubuntu 20.04 offers
[15:09] <AlexMax> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/commit/81deb99435fc92a36231144fd3099d9e57485d7e
[15:11] <oerheks> 3.36.4 is available on groovy only.., not sure focal-updates covers that fix too
[15:11] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome-shell
[15:11] <oerheks> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gnome-shell/gnome-shell_3.36.3-1ubuntu1~20.04.2/changelog
[15:13] <tatertotz> geosmile: in terminal>     ntpq -pn|nc termbin.com 9999
[15:13] <tatertotz> geosmile: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[15:15] <geosmile> tatertotz, ntpq: read: Connection refused
[15:22] <tatertotz> geosmile: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[15:23] <tatertotz> geosmile: follow instructions to install if not installed, then follow through
[15:23] <tatertotz> geosmile: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[15:24] <geosmile> tatertotz, what exactly are you looking for in system information? Kernel: 5.6.14-x86_64-linode135 x86_64 bits: 64
[15:25] <tatertotz> geosmile: in short there is nothing for you to "fix"...not supported
[15:26] <tatertotz> geosmile: you can provide the information I have requested if you want to appeal to continue
[15:26] <geosmile> "not supported" - meaning?
[15:26] <oerheks> there is no #linode here on #freenode
[15:27] <geosmile> tatertotz, what are you looking for in the system information? are you trying to create a bug report?
[15:27] <geosmile> oerheks, thanks - pasted them a copy
[15:29] <oerheks> yeah, what makes you think ubuntu can fix your issue?
[15:29] <oerheks> past that too :-P
[15:29] <tatertotz> geosmile: you can compare your output to other systems you may come across or have access to https://pastebin.com/9aLerP41
[15:29] <tatertotz> geosmile: unsupported
[15:30] <tatertotz> geosmile: if and when you do compare https://pastebin.com/9aLerP41 to other system , you'll notice a "difference"
[15:34] <leftyfb> geosmile: where are you seeing this error exactly?
[15:43] <leftyfb> geosmile: ntpdate requires you to specify a server: sudo ntpdate us.pool.ntp.org
[15:44] <leftyfb> geosmile: you can use ntpdate-debian # which uses the server specified in /etc/default/ntpdate
[15:44] <leftyfb> geosmile: or, like that conf file says, it'll use /etc/ntp.conf is ntpd is installed and configured
[15:46] <bbhoss> Hi All, I'm trying to change the port sshd runs on in ubuntu 20.04. I have Port 2222 in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. sshd starts up on 2222 as expected but it still starts on 22 as well. I've used strace to find every file it's reading for configuration and none of them have Port 22 still in there. Any ideas?
[15:47] <leftyfb> bbhoss: please pastebin your sshd_conf and the output of: sudo lsof -i :22 ; sudo lsof -i :2222
[15:47] <leftyfb> bbhoss: also did you stop the service and restart it?
[15:47] <bbhoss> sure. I've rebooted the whole machine just to be sure. Very odd
[15:49] <bbhoss> leftyfb: https://gist.github.com/preston-hf/70af189bfcf40f3036f888eb8f393d59
[15:54] <leftyfb> bbhoss: is this any sort of VPS or docker container or anything?
[15:54] <bbhoss> yeah it's running on GCP.
[15:54] <bbhoss> I added the extra file from the .d directory, nothing too fancy going on in there
[15:55] <leftyfb> you'll have to contact Google for support with GCP. I'm pretty those are modified versions of Ubuntu. Not stock Ubuntu
[15:59] <bbhoss> Yeah, I might as well go watch mud dry. Any ideas how the extra port could be getting in there at all though? Hard coded into the binary? Something goofy with LD_PRELOAD? 99% of the userspace matches ubuntu including openssh server
[15:59] <oerheks> really .. google gcp ubuntu ssh port gives ....
[15:59] <oerheks> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52616395/how-to-change-sshd-port-on-google-cloud-instance
[16:00] <oerheks> you need to add option ssh-flag in order to connect to another port: ...
[16:00] <oerheks> that is why we cannot answer correctly, we did not know
[16:00] <bbhoss> I'm having no issues connecting on 2222, it works just fine. I don't want it running on 22.
[16:01] <oerheks> that setting might be your fix?..
[16:01] <bbhoss> gcloud compute ssh just looks up your instance's ip address and runs the ssh command. You don't have to use it at all
[16:02] <bbhoss> so those other flags are just saying to use the new port. Nothing to do with the daemon
[16:02] <leftyfb> bbhoss: unless they've modified the ubuntu images to talk directly to their GCP API and listen on whatever address their ssh-flag system is configured for
[16:03] <bbhoss> that's not what that does. that stackoverflow isn't relevant because it's discussing how to connect to the instance. that is working fine for me
[16:03] <leftyfb> bbhoss: did you try it?
[16:03] <bbhoss> That's how I'm connected
[16:04] <leftyfb> bbhoss: so you already set the flag to be 2222?
[16:04] <bbhoss> yes. --ssh-flag just allows you to pass options to the underlying ssh command
[16:05] <bbhoss> (ssh client)
[16:12] <bbhoss> Well thanks for trying y'all, I opened a case. This is such an odd issue I'm not sure what else to check. /etc/default/ssh was no help either. Any other systemd oddities that could be looked into?
[16:14] <oerheks> lsof -i  :22
[16:15] <grkblood13> I have two kernels listed in /lib/modules: 4.9.140 and 4.9.140-tegra. 4.9.140 was built today but I don't know how to use it. when I run uname -a "4.9.140-tegra" is listed. how do I switch to the new one?
[16:16] <bbhoss> oerheks: check the gist that I shared, the output of that command is on there
[16:16] <bbhoss> 22 and 2222 are the same pid
[16:17] <leftyfb> grkblood13: what version of ubuntu?
[16:18] <grkblood13> leftyfb, 18.04
[16:18] <leftyfb> grkblood13: why are you messing with 4.9 kernels?
[16:19] <grkblood13> its an SDK image from nvidia for their SBC
[16:19] <grkblood13> had to apply some patch to get a usb dongle to work properly
[16:19] <oerheks>  NVIDIA Tegra (Jetson TX1, TX2, AGX Xavier, Xavier NX, Nano)  aarch64 kernel?
[16:20] <grkblood13> yes, its for a jetson nano
[16:23] <oerheks> grkblood13, i am not sure, you might want to reask in #tegra
[16:23] <oerheks> it is not an official ubuntu image
[16:23] <grkblood13> ok, thanks
[16:24] <kinghat> is it possible to see manufacturer name and model of devices via cli somehow?
[16:24] <kinghat> i dont see it in fdisk
[16:24] <oerheks> lscpu, lsusb, lspci, lshw and dmidecode
[16:28] <kinghat> lshw was the one, thanks oerheks!
[16:28] <bbhoss> So I just figured it out. Turns out that you need to specify ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>:2222, Port isn't sufficient.
[16:29] <bbhoss> man page says
[16:29] <bbhoss> > Specifies the port on which the server listens for connections (default 22).  Multiple port options are permitted.  Ports specified in the configuration file with the Port option are ignored when a command-line port is specified.  Ports specified using the ListenAddress option override command-line ports.
[16:29] <oerheks> good find
[16:30] <bbhoss> so maybe systemd is configured with a listenaddress somewhere? anyways glad to figure it out
[16:30] <oerheks> leftyfb, ^
[16:31] <banggood> how much bloat does ubuntu have compared to minimal distros like arch?
[16:31] <bbhoss> IMO it is pretty minimal if you pick the minimal image
[16:32] <oerheks> there is no bloat, that is an opinion
[16:33] <bbhoss> debian and ubuntu both do quite a bit of their own changes to packages vs arch which seems to always be on the razor's edge + just how the creator of the library/program distributed it initially. to me that's one of the bigger differences
[16:33] <oerheks> that is why i love snaps
[16:34] <kinghat> hmm one f my disks isnt showing up. need to do a physical inspection i guess.
[16:36] <oerheks> sudo lshw -C disk
[16:36] <nelgin> Where's the 'proper' location to put included conf files for a virtual host in Ubuntu 20.04? After coming from CentOS/RedHat, I don't much like the apache2 layout but I'd rather do things the "ubuntu" way.
[16:36] <oerheks> kinghat, this is a nice one; udisksctl  status
[16:38] <lamiastella> how can I check that an image has how many bytes per pixel?
[16:39] <oerheks> file <name>
[16:40] <oerheks> !info exiv2
[16:41] <lamiastella> oerheks: frame0171.tiff: TIFF image data, little-endian, direntries=14, height=1024, bps=182, compression=none, PhotometricIntepretation=RGB, width=1024 doesn't show the byte per pixel
[16:42] <oerheks> exiv2, or perhaps imagemagick .. https://superuser.com/questions/275502/how-to-get-information-about-an-image-picture-from-the-linux-command-line
[16:46] <lamiastella> oerheks: however it doesn't show https://pastebin.com/raw/kCqctnDL
[16:46] <pa> hi
[16:47] <pa> how do i enable the driver that comes with xserver-xorg-video-intel , instead of glamoregl?
[16:47] <pa> meaning the "intel" driver?
[16:48] <GrandPa-G> is there any way to have a "include file" in dhcpcd.conf to bring options in from another file?
[16:53] <oerheks> pa.. that is old, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glamor-egl   trusty?
[16:53] <pa> not sure, this is 20.04
[16:53] <pa> and glamoregl is the default driver apparently
[16:54] <oerheks> seems like a 2d driver, what intel gpu is that?
[16:56] <FocalFossaUser> Anyone here?
[16:56] <pa> this is intel UHD 630
[16:56] <GrandPa-G> only the residents from the old folks home.
[16:59] <FocalFossaUser> Does anyone know how to enable the fingerprint sensor on 20.04?
[16:59] <pavlos> GrandPa-G: there s an include directive for dhcpd.conf ...
[17:03] <GrandPa-G> pavlos, I didn't see it in the man dhcpcd.conf (or did I miss it)
[17:04] <FocalFossaUser> Does anyone know how to enable the fingerprint sensor on ubuntu 20.04?
[17:04] <FocalFossaUser> *?*
[17:04] <pavlos> GrandPa-G: in dhcpd, not in dhcpcd
[17:07] <GrandPa-G> pavlos, so that would let me have a normal dhcpcd.conf and another dhcpcd.conf someplace else? I want to override the static ip setup in a secondary file. Is this doable?
[17:07] <WaV> FocalFossaUser: "GNOME Shell (and thus Ubuntu) already support fingerprint login. This can be set up through the Settings > Users panel but it’s… Well, I hear there’s some room for improvement." -- source:omgubuntu.co.uk
[17:08] <coconut> WaV, you know if this fingerprint option exist for mate DE too?
[17:09] <WaV> I don't know that it actually exists for Ubuntu tbh. What I pasted is from a website I Google searched.
[17:09] <coconut> thnx for the honesty
[17:11] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-fingerprint.html.en
[17:11] <oerheks> check https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fprint  for supported devices..
[17:13] <coconut> thnx oerheks!
[17:18] <k_sze> ugh... this is not cool: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1889509
[17:18] <k_sze> Now I'm too afraid to reboot.
[17:19] <cybrNaut> all the ubuntu mirrors are showing as insecure (http) in the s/w manager, even though I installed apt-transport-https and apt-transport-tor
[17:19] <WaV> Good catch. I just update and upgraded and grub was one of the packages.
[17:19] <cybrNaut> k_sze: i got stung by that yesterday.. hosed my shit
[17:20] <cybrNaut> it's important to update grub and the kernel at the same time
[17:21] <cybrNaut> if I were doing it again, i wouldn't update at all.. let things settle for a couple weeks first
[17:21] <oerheks> collision grub2 and kernel update?
[17:21] <k_sze> So how do I tell my machine can still reboot?
[17:21] <oerheks> that might be important info, yeah
[17:22] <cybrNaut> the new grub rejects the current kernel (in my disaster it was Mint, but that's Ubuntu based)
[17:22] <cybrNaut> k_sze: do not reboot until you update the kernel
[17:22] <k_sze> I'm on 5.4.0-42-generic #46~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
[17:23] <cybrNaut> In my case, the new kernel wasn't even available, and I rebooted and from there i was stuffed
[17:23] <cybrNaut> i'm not sure what version fixes the grub disaster, but if you've updated the kernel in the past day then you probably have the right one
[17:32] <cybrNaut> if sources.list is "deb tor://...ubuntu.com..", will it be http or https over tor?
[17:40] <Mibix> if i added "/dev/sdm -C 0" to smartd.conf and reloaded the service i shouldnt be gettting this damn pending sector emails anymore, should i?
[17:42] <Mibix> drive is already backed up but i want to keep using it till its ded
[17:47] <k_sze> Odd, why does the Debian knowledge base article talk about updating the kernel and the shim, whereas the Ubuntu knowledge base article doesn't?
[17:48] <k_sze> Compare https://www.debian.org/security/2020-GRUB-UEFI-SecureBoot/ against https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/GRUB2SecureBootBypass (or even https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-4432-1)
[18:35] <wolfman> any recommendations on how to turn my TV that supports anycast into a wireless display? can't see any active projects unless i'm blind.
[18:40] <leftyfb> wolfman: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038562/miracast-ubuntu-18-04-smarttv   # second result on google for "ubuntu anycast setup"
[18:41] <wolfman> leftyfb: yeah, i've seen that. can't decide if miraclecast is an active project though.
[18:42] <oerheks> then VLC should be able too, i guess
[19:02] <matthias_arch> Hello, I hope this channel can answer my DPDK question. I want to attach a dpdk pdump process to my running dpdk application, however I get the following error: EAL: Cannot initialize tailq: RTE_FIB (full error: https://bpa.st/DKYQ) I'm calling rte_pdump_init() after rte_eal_init() as done in the testpmd app. I get the same error when modifying the
[19:02] <matthias_arch> l2fwd example for pdump.
[19:06] <usero4eg> Does anybody know, where is sysconf located in Ubuntu 18.04?
[19:08] <sarnold> matthias_arch: #ubuntu-server is more likely to know, but it's pretty quiet and dpdk is pretty niche.. is there anyting in dmesg?
[19:09] <wolfman> oerheks: you mean use VLC to turn my TV into a wireless display? i was hoping to turn the TV into an actual display (ie extended or mirrored) and not just casting videos to it
[19:09] <matthias_arch> sarnold dmesg is completely quiet
[19:09] <sarnold> :(
[19:12] <oerheks> one can cast the desktop, at least chomecast can
[19:13] <oerheks> but not a playing movie
[19:13] <oerheks> * on the desktop
[19:17] <wolfman> True. Casting the desktop however does not make the TV a true "display". I'll give miraclecast another try as it seems to be the closest to what I'm looking for and see if it works as I want it to.
[19:31] <leftyfb> usero4eg: sysconf? for what?
[19:31] <usero4eg> I need to find a "lines" in this file o_0
[19:32] <usero4eg> I know, it's sound so strange, but I need to find it.
[19:32] <leftyfb> usero4eg: for what? For what service? What exactly are you trying to do?
[19:32] <sarnold> usero4eg: what does 'sysconf' mean to you?
[19:33] <leftyfb> bah, is it a nethack thing?
[19:33] <usero4eg> okay, I try to google it. I don't know what is sysconf too, I have a strange task, and can't find it...
[19:33] <leftyfb> usero4eg: what do you need to add to "sysconf" and why?
[19:33] <leftyfb> usero4eg: please answer the questions
[19:34] <usero4eg> at the first step I need to find it on a few machines and compare content.
[19:34] <sarnold> usero4eg: pastebin the problem you're trying to solve?
[19:35] <leftyfb> usero4eg: you have not answered a single question
[19:35] <usero4eg> guys, I don't know what is sysconf in ubuntu...
[19:35] <usero4eg> its sounds strange, Im sorry.
[19:36] <leftyfb> usero4eg: what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:36] <oerheks> locate <file> .. i think sysconf is a folder ??
[19:36] <leftyfb> usero4eg: what are you doing?
[19:36] <leftyfb> usero4eg: what do you need to add to "sysconf" and why? What/who is telling you do that and for what purpose?
[19:37] <leftyfb> please answer any of these questions.
[19:37] <usero4eg> @leftyfb, Im understood you, Im asked one question and got five.
[19:37] <leftyfb> usero4eg: please answer any of the 5
[19:37] <oerheks> :-D
[19:37] <usero4eg> My colleague gave me a task to compare sysconf file in ubuntu, and I don't understand where I can find it.
[19:38] <leftyfb> usero4eg: where did this sysconf file come from?
[19:38] <leftyfb> usero4eg: can you post a copy of it to pastebin to share here?
[19:38] <usero4eg> stop pls, I understood you.
[19:40] <leftyfb> usero4eg: a file names "sysconf" does not exist in any package in the Ubuntu repositories other than a game called nethack.
[19:41] <oerheks> spoler alert !!!!  "This is an area where the Debian and Red Hat families really differ. Network interfaces in Debian/Ubuntu are not defined by files in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts ( there is not even a /etc/sysconfig directory), but by /etc/network/interfaces "
[19:41] <oerheks> hips .. you could have this answer earlier, if you answer questions
[19:41] <leftyfb> oerheks: he said "sysconf" not sysconfig
[19:41] <mbeierl> usero4eg, it's possible that the request is to compare the set of installed packages, or even the network config, or who knows.  You will need to ask your colleague what "sysconf" means in this context
[19:43] <usero4eg> "a file names "sysconf" does not exist in any package in the Ubuntu repositories" , I don't understood what he is mean, and tried to ask here, Im newbie in Linux, and don't know what is exist or not exist.
[19:43] <mbeierl> usero4eg, what we are trying to say is that we does not know what sysconf is either.
[19:44] <mbeierl> Like me going into a kitchen and asking where the steering wheel is.
[19:44] <leftyfb> usero4eg: there is no sysconf file or older in ubuntu. If you want further help, you need to clarify what the sysconf file you currently have is used for. Network config? Game config? Something else?
[19:44] <usero4eg> @oerheks, thank's a lot, mb I can find a solve of my task :)
[19:45] <mbeierl> Sorry we cannot help if we simply do not know what it is you are looking for...
[19:45] <tomreyn> maybe if you can copy and paste the original task your collegue gave you verbatim, we can maybe help
[19:45] <oerheks> my answer could well be wrong..
[19:45] <leftyfb> tomreyn: I already asked for that. No response
[19:45] <sarnold> leftyfb: hmm there should be *some* files with name 'sysconf' on ubuntu :) the sysconf(3) and sysconf(3posix) manpages, for example
[19:46] <tomreyn> leftyfb: sometimes asking more than once helps. ;)
[19:46] <oerheks> i think pre-systemd era ..
[19:46] <mbeierl> sarnold, those are kernel subroutines for getting kernel info
[19:46] <mbeierl> iirc
[19:47] <sarnold> mbeierl: close, libc
[19:47] <leftyfb> sarnold: apt-file shows no file or directory called "sysconf" other than for nethack
[19:47] <mbeierl> sysconf could even mean something as simple as what kernel version is running...  That is the problem with the request from the colleague.  Not enough info
[19:48] <oerheks> .. could be windows?
[19:48] <sarnold> leftyfb: very curious: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DNCh4DHJdm/
[19:49] <leftyfb> that's sysconf.3.gz, not sysconf :)
[19:49] <leftyfb> I looked for sysconf$
[19:49] <sarnold> ahhh
[19:49] <sarnold> oerheks: could be someone not passing their job interview
[20:18] <lamiastella> I have a 16 bit per pixel TIF image how can I convert it to 8 bit  per pixel grey-scale TIF image?
[20:19] <oerheks> imagemagick perhaps..
[20:19] <sarnold> lamiastella: probably imagemagick, but please be careful what you feed it, it's got a long history of unsafe input handling
[20:20] <oerheks> !info tiffcrop
[20:20] <oerheks> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/tiffcrop.1.html
[20:23] <tomreyn> gimp can most likley do it, too, if you prefer
[20:35] <lamiastella> sarnold: what is the command line comamnd?
[20:36] <sarnold> lamiastella: hah, that's the hard part :(
[20:37] <sarnold> this isn't a bad starting point I don't think https://imagemagick.org/script/formats.php#colorspace
[20:38] <qwertuttyty> neede eq for u-mate please give name for  synaptic?
[20:43] <sarnold> qwertuttyty: u-mate?
[20:45] <qwertuttyty> umate 20.04
[20:46] <qwertuttyty> give programm equlaser
[20:47] <qwertuttyty> win have eq as driver
[20:48] <qwertuttyty> instal driver in win and have eq
[20:48] <qwertuttyty> time?
[20:50] <tomreyn> with the next beep, it's 10:50 pm UTC
[20:50] <qwertuttyty> eq ubuntu-mate?
[20:50] <qwertuttyty>  eq for  ubuntu-mate?
[20:50] <sarnold> qwertuttyty: pulseaudio-equalizer has a program qpaeq
[20:58] <qwertuttyty> what  the humor need deb
[21:00] <qwertuttyty> eq fo ubiuntu mate 2.04 deb
[21:00] <qwertuttyty> 20.04
[21:01] <qwertuttyty> 20.04
[21:02] <qwertuttyty> give ne eq for ubuntu mate 20.04
[21:02] <qwertuttyty> giveme
[21:05] <leftyfb> !ru | qwertuttyty
[21:09] <qwertuttyty> give a name programm for
[21:09] <qwertuttyty>  me equalizer for ubunbtu version 20.04
[21:10] <qwertuttyty> sorry
[21:10] <qwertuttyty> deb
[21:12] <sarnold> qwertuttyty: what is wrong with pulseaudio-equalizer ?
[21:19] <Aavar> This might be the wrong place to ask this, but how can I set a color as the wallpaper in unity?
[21:19] <qwertuttyty>  pulseaudio-equalizer has a program qpaeq
[21:20] <oerheks> Aavar, create a image.png
[21:22] <Aavar> oerheks: Hmm... can't do that. I am having troubles with graphical glitches and I believe the wallpaper is at fault.
[21:22] <qwertuttyty> i don't know how to turn it on
[21:22] <qwertuttyty> eq in ubuntu - mate
[21:24] <Aavar> oerheks: I ran hsetroot -solid '#000000'... looks like that actually did the trick :)
[21:24] <Aavar> oerheks: nope... spoke too soon ;(
[21:24] <Aavar> I'll try another WM to se if unity is at fault :)
[21:25] <qwertuttyty> please do default eq in ubuntu mate as 100% prefirence
[21:28] <qwertuttyty> NO EQ FO UBUNYU bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:28] <qwertuttyty> ubuntu
[21:30] <sarnold> qwertuttyty: what is wrong with pulseaudio-equalizer? why do you not like it?
[21:30] <qwertuttyty> i  advancet user me mnede eq
[21:32] <sarnold> qwertuttyty: maybe #lau would have suggestions? "apt-cache search equalizer" doesn't return many results :(
[21:32] <oerheks> i just use clementine, with build in EQ, not needed with a browser.
[22:02] <lamiastella> how can i know if my tif image is corrupted or has bad metadata via the command line?
[22:15] <pavlos> do you have libtiff, there is a tool, tiffinfo http://www.libtiff.org/tools.html
[22:30] <lamiastella> pavlos: I don't see any damage here https://pastebin.com/raw/pWWGp0FG
[22:30] <lamiastella> not sure why the image is seen as having width or height 0 by opencv then https://stackoverflow.com/questions/63181830/viewing-a-tif-image-file-using-opencv-in-jupyter-notebook pavlos
[22:38] <pavlos> is the image square (1024x1024) ? I dont know much about images, just thinking out loud
[22:40] <yolan> Hello, I can't copy anything anymore to my windows drive because it can't read the files from my linux drive
[22:46] <rjwiii>  yolan: WSL?
[22:46] <yolan> What is WSL?
[22:47] <rjwiii> yolan: Linux subsystem for Windows 10 ...
[22:47] <yolan> No, I'm on Ubuntu rn
[22:47] <rjwiii> Dual boot?
[22:47] <yolan> I only have a NTFS disk in my machine that I use to mix (I'm a DJ)
[22:48] <yolan> but I get an "error Opening file: file not found" error when copying the file (that I can indeed open)
[22:48] <rjwiii> yolan: Dual boot?
[22:48] <yolan> yes
[22:49] <rjwiii> yolan: Is the Ubuntu side EXT4?
[22:49] <yolan> it worked before very well
[22:50] <rjwiii> Are you copying via CLI?
[22:50] <yolan> no, gnome
[22:50] <yolan> the gnome file manager
[22:50] <rjwiii> Nautalus?
[22:50] <yolan> yes !
[22:50] <yolan> Nautilus
[22:53] <rjwiii> and you mounted your NTFS partition in Ubuntu?
[22:54] <yolan> well usually it works out of the box, I open the drive with nautilus and it works. Now it mounted it with ro, so I mounted it again with rw but still can't copy files to ir
[22:54] <yolan> it*
[22:54] <rjwiii> Same error?
[22:54] <yolan> because apparently the files are not available
[22:55] <yolan> yes, it don't find the files
[22:55] <yolan> I did an apt upgrade and rebooted
[22:55] <yolan> still the same
[22:55] <rjwiii> What is the mount point?
[22:55] <yolan> \/media/yolan/D6A45DF8A45DDB95
[22:56] <rjwiii> Ok ... can you see the files on the mounted NTFS?
[22:56] <yolan> Yes
[22:56] <rjwiii> What permissions do they have?
[22:56] <rjwiii> and who owns them?
[22:57] <yolan> rwxrwxrwx
[22:57] <yolan> I did a chmod -R 777 * in the windows disk lol
[22:58] <rjwiii> VERY VERY DANGEROUS!
[22:58] <rjwiii> who owns the files?
[22:58] <yolan> me
[22:58] <yolan> yolan
[22:59] <rjwiii> Try copying a file via CLI ...
[22:59] <yolan> even touch doesn't work
[22:59] <yolan> touch: cannot touch 'a': No such file or directory
[23:00] <rjwiii> Can you cd to the mounted partition?
[23:00] <yolan> yes
[23:01] <rjwiii> can you try ls -al?
[23:01] <rjwiii> so you see anything?
[23:01] <yolan> yes
[23:01] <rjwiii> and touch still doesn't work?
[23:01] <yolan> no
[23:02] <yolan> and I can't delete either
[23:02] <rjwiii> can you cat a text file?
[23:02] <yolan> yes
[23:02] <rjwiii> or less a text file ...
[23:02] <yolan> yes
[23:03] <rjwiii> The other side is Windows 10?
[23:03] <yolan> yes
[23:03] <rjwiii> Have you booted into Windows 10 since this started happening?
[23:03] <yolan> no
[23:04] <rjwiii> Can you edit a text file on the NTFS side?
[23:05] <yolan> yes
[23:05] <rjwiii> and save it?
[23:05] <yolan> yes
[23:05] <rjwiii> Can you use an editor to edit a new file on the NTFS side?
[23:05] <yolan> No, I can't create a new file
[23:06] <rjwiii> did you upgrade anything before this started happening?
[23:06] <yolan> it does not really make any senses to me lol
[23:07] <yolan> yes I guess I did a system upgrade
[23:07] <yolan> but I rebooted
[23:07] <rjwiii> Ubuntu upgrade?
[23:07] <tatertotz> yolan: do you need some help?
[23:07] <yolan> Yes
[23:07] <tatertotz> yolan: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[23:07] <yolan> Yes tatertotz, it's really weird. Yes I am
[23:08] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>      lsblk|nc termbin.com 9999
[23:08] <tatertotz> yolan: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[23:08] <yolan> http://ix.io/2sK3
[23:08] <tatertotz> yolan: don't get creative
[23:08] <tatertotz> yolan: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[23:08] <yolan> Yes I just did
[23:09] <tatertotz> yolan: that's not the expected domain, so i can't click on it sorry
[23:09] <yolan> ix.io is a known paste tool
[23:09] <sarnold> lol
[23:10] <tatertotz> yolan: i'm not here to debate paste tool preferences ..i also said don't get creative or cute..a nice way of saying just do as you're told
[23:10] <yolan> https://termbin.com/v2ln
[23:11] <yolan> you can try echo "something" | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
[23:11] <yolan> it's a very fast pasting tools
[23:11] <yolan> thank you for helping me :)
[23:12] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>      ls -alh /media/yolan|nc termbin.com 9999
[23:12] <tatertotz> yolan: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[23:12] <yolan> https://termbin.com/e224
[23:15] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>     sudo touch /media/yolan/armor/xu.pir
[23:15] <yolan> it's not the armor disk the problem
[23:16] <pavlos> replace armor with D6....
[23:16] <yolan> touch: cannot touch 'something': No such file or directory
[23:16] <yolan> touch: cannot touch 'xu.pir': No such file or directory
[23:16] <tatertotz> yolan: is it nvme0n1             259:0    0 894.3G  0 disk?
[23:16] <tatertotz> yolan: yes / no?
[23:17] <yolan> yes
[23:17] <yolan> nvme0n1p4         259:4    0 893.7G  0 part  /media/yolan/D6A45DF8A45DDB95
[23:18] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>     sudo touch /media/yolan/D6A45DF8A45DDB95/xu.pir
[23:18] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>           echo $?
[23:19] <yolan> touch: cannot touch 'xu.pir': No such file or directory
[23:20] <tatertotz> yolan: ???
[23:20] <tatertotz> yolan: ......
[23:20] <sarnold> the error return doesn't much matter; it can't tell you more than the errno that it already reported
[23:20] <tatertotz> yolan: i'm detecting a high probability of user or human error
[23:20] <sarnold> yolan: is there anything in dmesg?
[23:21] <tatertotz> it can't tell "you".
[23:21] <yolan> https://termbin.com/h3rl
[23:21] <pavlos> is this partition mounted RW
[23:22] <yolan> I did a sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/nvme0n1p4 /media/yolan/D6A45DF8A45DDB95
[23:23] <sarnold> dang :( nothing related in dmesg :( apparmor messages look like harmless snap things, the warning is probably just a warning from networking code and unlikely to influence filesystem..
[23:24] <pavlos> verify ... sudo mount | grep n1p4 should show as (rw
[23:24] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>      journalctl -p 2 |nc termbin.com 9999
[23:25] <yolan> yes rw
[23:25] <yolan> https://termbin.com/07cr
[23:25] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>      journalctl -p 3 |nc termbin.com 9999
[23:25] <tatertotz> yolan: looks the same but it's not, post the new url
[23:26] <yolan> https://termbin.com/y61e
[23:26] <yolan> Apr 30 18:00:44 pop-os kernel: EXT4-fs (sdb): Unrecognized mount option "errors=remount-rw" or missing value
[23:28] <sarnold> oh wow -p3 has a lot of sad stuff
[23:28] <sarnold> jun 02 looks like hardware problems to me
[23:28] <sarnold> jun 06 looks like hardware problems too
[23:29] <sarnold> jun 13 ... :(
[23:30] <sarnold> this has had daily reboots, too :(
[23:30] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>      journalctl -p 4 |nc termbin.com 9999
[23:31] <yolan> https://termbin.com/3fvr
[23:32] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>      inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[23:35] <yolan> inxi ?
[23:35] <pavlos> you can install it with sudo apt install inxi
[23:35] <tatertotz> yolan: if it's not installed, "ubuntu" will instruct you on how to install, then you can follow through
[23:36] <yolan> https://termbin.com/uqv4
[23:36] <tatertotz> yolan:            Distro: Pop!_OS 20.04 LTS base: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Focal
[23:36] <tatertotz> yolan: just off top
[23:36] <tatertotz> off rip
[23:36] <yolan> well it's ubuntu with a custom DE
[23:37] <yolan> I just ask for some help :)
[23:37] <sarnold> popos folks changed quite a lot, it's not 'just' a skin..
[23:38] <sarnold> does this drive work through other things? it sure smells like there's hardware failure here :(
[23:38] <yolan> wut
[23:38] <yolan> Oo
[23:38] <yolan> but it's new
[23:38] <yolan> Ok I'll try to reboot into windows
[23:38] <Intelo> VLC takes 90% above cpu while doing notthing. Pause or stope state. What could be the reason?
[23:39] <tatertotz> yolan: in terminal>     grep "[[:space:]]ro[[:space:],]" /proc/mounts |nc termbin.com 9999
[23:39] <tatertotz> yofel: share url/link here...if you do not get a  url/link..simply say so
[23:40] <sarnold> Intelo: you could use perf top to look into what functions your computer is doing, that might help you see what's going on
[23:44] <Intelo> sarnold: hm. closed it, will report next time
[23:45] <Intelo> sarnold: for now /usr/lib/snapd/snapd is taking 20%
[23:47] <sarnold> Intelo: ouch. that might be worth a bug report too :) what the heck is it doing?
[23:51] <Intelo> sarnold: I observed similar with baloo_file, ktorrent
[23:52] <Intelo> sarnold: I had to switch away from kubuntu due to that and installed xubuntu (kde vs xfce)
[23:53] <Intelo> sarnold: no idea https://imgur.com/ajPFoiO.png
[23:53] <sarnold> Intelo: try perf top
[23:53] <sarnold> you'll probably have to install some debug packages to get symbols though
[23:54] <sarnold> hmm. I wonder if snapd even provides it.
[23:54] <sarnold> it's still worth doing.
[23:54] <sarnold>    2283 root      20   0 1964988  26552   9032 S   2.6   0.2 261:25.74 snapd
[23:54] <sarnold> 2.6 %
[23:55] <ComputerTech> hmm trying to install sendmail
[23:55] <ComputerTech> and when i try to restart it
[23:55] <ComputerTech> i get Failed to restart apache2.service: Unit apache2.service not found.
[23:55] <oerheks> Intelo, somehow  you have 2 /opt/zoom/zoom users
[23:55] <oerheks> epic
[23:55] <ComputerTech> i tried sudo service apache2 restart
[23:56] <ComputerTech> get that error
[23:56] <sarnold> Intelo: oh wow, how'd you do that? :)
[23:56] <Intelo> oerheks: I have 2 users logged in
[23:56] <sarnold> ComputerTech: do you have the apache2 package installed?
[23:57] <ComputerTech> i am not sure
[23:57] <ComputerTech> is it
[23:57] <ComputerTech> apt install apache2 ?
[23:57] <sarnold> yeah
[23:58] <ComputerTech> yeah it's installing now
[23:58] <ComputerTech> ok no error now
[23:58] <ComputerTech> must have worked?
[23:58] <sarnold> yeah; note the debian default apache config may be more open than you wish; iirc /usr/share/doc/ is exported
[23:59] <sarnold> so you  may wish to put some effort into configuring it as you wish
[23:59] <ComputerTech> ok