[01:07] <Myrtti> *SNUGGLEHUGGLE*
[01:11] <LjL> PriceChild, you don't happen to have a clue what to do next when your rt2500 card does appear to work, but you can't get anything to ping anything else? :|
[01:19] <PriceChild> LjL: "appear to work"?
[01:19] <LjL> PriceChild: well, this time the interface is there in ifconfig
[01:20] <LjL> anyway, am now checking dmesg, and have a lot of "ip_conntrack: table full, dropping packet." if that means anything
[01:20] <PriceChild> nveer heard of it
[01:23] <LjL> i mean, not only does it show up in ifconfig, but the eeepc sees the network too
[01:34] <LjL> gah... so nevermind anyway, the problem was on the eeepc side. it still thought it had a route to a wired connection (even though it did say "disabled", but "route" begged to differ), so it tried to reach 192.168 from there
[02:01] <PriceChild> woo :)
[03:01] <PriceChild> ubottu doesn't fear anything
[03:01] <Flannel> why are whale sharks scary?
[03:01] <PriceChild> i'm desperately trying to think of that office quote... jdong help me... "we would also have accepted women and...." ???
[03:05] <Hobbsee> dogs?
[03:09] <Flannel> Its "Not afraid of anything, also would have accepted snakes"
[03:09] <Flannel> or at least, according to the internet.
[03:43] <jdong> PriceChild: also, I would've accepted snakes
[03:43] <jdong> ack Flannel won.
[03:43] <Flannel> Only through the power of the internet.  I claim no credit personally.
[04:14] <Hobbsee> heads up on the user 'connecting'
[04:14] <Hobbsee> mibbit user, spamming and such
[04:14] <Hobbsee> real IP of  ppp-70-247-119-16.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net
[09:18]  * elkbuntu refrains from joking about that one
[09:25] <Gary> I've asked hero to not repeat the "hi's" (in pm)
[09:26] <jussi01> mrgh... out too late last night...
[09:26] <Gary> hangover?
[09:26] <jussi01> yep
[09:26] <elkbuntu> Gary, i was kinda hoping he'd be 'an hero' and.. well...
[09:27] <elkbuntu> terminate himself
[09:27]  * Gary shouts "HEY JUSSI01"
[09:27] <elkbuntu> by which i mean, his connection
[09:28]  * jussi01 takes a bite out of Gary
[09:28] <Gary> nom nom nom
[09:31] <elkbuntu> bad pizza hut. when i say 'no onion' i kind of mean 'none' not 'less'
[09:32] <Gary> I had pizza last night, and now feel really rubbish
[09:33] <stdin> elkbuntu: pizza hut? you mean "pasta hut" :p
[09:33] <elkbuntu> stdin, the only pasta it sells here is lasagna.
[09:33] <elkbuntu> the rest is american-style ribs
[09:35] <stdin> it getting re-branded here to pasta hut, because it's "healthier"
[09:35] <elkbuntu> you kid
[09:35] <elkbuntu> [citation needed]
[09:35] <stdin> http://www.pastahut.co.uk/Home
[09:36] <elkbuntu> that would actually be ok. i'd love to be able to order pasta and not have it arrive with 10 cloves of garlic in it
[09:36] <elkbuntu> so um, how to pizza lovers get pizza in the UK?
[09:37] <stdin> it still does pizzas, but the emphasis is now on the pasta
[09:37] <stdin> and we still have a pizza place on every corner (it seems)
[09:38] <stdin> and at least 4 leaflets for pizza places get pushed through my door every week. so we're not short of pizza
[09:40] <elkbuntu> i live in an asian/middle-eastern dominated area. makes for unsatisfactory pizzas
[09:41] <elkbuntu> there is one italian pizza joint close by, but they're epic fail
[09:43] <stdin> I have 2 pizza places within a mile radius, at least 2 chinese, 3 indian and one greek restaurant
[09:43] <stdin> maybe I'm spoilt :p
[09:44] <elkbuntu> i have about that, but i dont get heaps of junkmail
[09:44] <Gary> stdin: great place to live!
[09:45] <stdin> and there's even a McDonalds down the road :p
[09:53] <elkbuntu> who cares about that
[09:57] <jussi01> thats a minus IMHO
[09:57] <elkbuntu> true
[09:59] <stdin> I worked at a McDonalds for a while, it's not *that* bad
[10:02] <elkbuntu> until you picture the people who are attracted to mcdonalds like flies to crap
[10:05] <jussi01> no, point is, Mcdonalds in your neighbourhood sucks. it creates a huge amounts of rubbish, crappy food and not a nice environment... IMHO...
[10:23] <elkbuntu> they're half-maccas half coffeshop here in aus now
[10:23] <Gary> and barrys in their barry cars, driving like idiots
[10:25] <elkbuntu> so, at least there's an option other than sugar water, barely-dairy thickshakes and day-old percolated coffee.
[13:16] <elkbuntu> poor ljlzilla is trying to edumacate shirish
[13:16] <ikonia> ?
 shirish: have you ever tried  looking at the topic, before chatting in a channel? ;)
[13:17] <ikonia> ah
[13:17] <elkbuntu> shirish iirc is one of Hobbsee's favourites
[13:17] <Hobbsee> urgh.
[13:17] <elkbuntu> IdleOne, 'sup?
[13:17] <IdleOne> the !ubuntu+1 triiger needs to be changed
[13:17] <Hobbsee> i've been trying to ignore him in +1.
[13:17] <IdleOne> Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th, 2008 - Warning lots of broken software between now and October 30th! - Use #ubuntu+1 for support, *NOT* #ubuntu
[13:18] <ikonia> IdleOne: what's up
[13:18] <jrib> !-intrepid
[13:18] <jrib> !intrepid
[13:18] <jrib> !ubuntu+1
[13:18] <ikonia> ahh
[13:18] <IdleOne> guess it got over looked
[13:18] <IdleOne> thanks guys
[13:18] <jrib> one should alias the other
[13:18] <jrib> thanks IdleOne
[13:18] <IdleOne> np
[13:19] <jrib> !ubuntu+1 is <alias> intrepid
[13:19] <elkbuntu> aww how sweet, i get a new buntu for my birfday... well, the day before it.
[13:19] <jrib> hmm, does the other way make more sense?
[13:20] <jrib> !ubuntu+1
[13:20] <jrib> ...
[13:20] <jrib> !no, ubuntu+1 is <alias> intrepid
[13:20] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, i suspect we'd be able to cope with both beta and release, since we only have to survive a day after release before the new calendar month hits
[13:20] <jrib> !no, ubuntu+1 is <alias> intrepid
[13:20] <jrib> !ubuntu+1
[13:21] <jrib> :/
[13:21] <jrib> !ubuntu+1
[13:22] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: that's possible.  How well's it seeded now?
[13:22] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, dunno. and plus, we can throttle
[13:22] <Hobbsee> actually, there should be a RC next week, or the week after.
[13:22] <Hobbsee> so we can torrent that, with no problem, then the final.
[13:22] <elkbuntu> yeah
[13:22] <Hobbsee> was thinking there wasn't so much point seeding the beta now.
[13:23] <elkbuntu> which is a good point
[13:23] <elkbuntu> but it's something we should plan for
[13:24] <Hobbsee> indeed.
[13:42] <Seeker`> any plans for doing anything about the insane-ness in #u?
[13:42] <Seeker`> (for the release I mean)
[13:42] <Hobbsee> open #ubuntu-release-party?
[13:45] <elkbuntu> just like we do every release, pinky.
[13:45] <Hobbsee> go mad?
[13:46] <Hobbsee> remove people if they advertise non-official channels?
[13:46] <elkbuntu> well, yes
[13:46] <Hobbsee> ban fujisan to start with
[13:46] <Hobbsee> unless he's (blissfully) gone away now.
[13:53] <elkbuntu> pretty much, minus the fujisan thing, since we'll know the second he's there, and he'll be sprayed with idiot-be-gone promptly
[13:54] <elkbuntu> he shows up in #freenode every now and then wondering why staff all disappear and cannot handle his 'gimme cloak plzkthx' demands
[13:55] <elkbuntu> he still thinks it's his ticket into everywhere he's been banned from
[14:00] <Myrtti> eh. http://paste.ubuntu.com/56294/
[14:00] <Hobbsee> with idiot-be-gone.  I like that.  Does it come in a can?
[14:00]  * Hobbsee can picture spraying it around or something
[14:00] <Seeker`> Hobbsee: I believe it is hammer shaped
[14:16]  * Myrtti huggles wgrant
[15:44] <LjL> !equivalents
[15:45] <LjL> !no equivalents is <reply> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot
[15:45] <LjL> mind? it's currently got quite a few apps that aren't even listed on those urls
[15:45] <nickrud> change the name, there are no 'bests' ;)
[15:46] <LjL> nickrud, that was always the irony in it...
[15:46] <nickrud> maybe BetterBot, since we're talking about apps better than win equivs :)
[15:47] <nickrud> ah, irony. Point.
[15:47] <LjL> nickrud, when you ask it what the best whatever is, it replies that "the BESTEST whatever is ..."
[15:47] <LjL> and, i *am* aware that there is no such word as bestest
[15:47] <LjL> so, yes, irony.
[15:47] <LjL> ironic also that supybot beats bestbot in the "best bot" category
[15:47] <nickrud> yes, with the reply it's obvious. I like that. Of course, since I've never played with the bot my opinion is palian
[15:48] <LjL> nickrud: and anyway you can also just ask it for a list of applications of some kind, with no "best" nonsense in the reply
[17:40] <Myrtti> Linus ♥
[17:40] <Myrtti> http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2008/10/tracking-time-kids-spend-online.html
[17:40] <ikonia> #ubuntu is hard this evening
[17:40] <Myrtti> someone should make a decent front end to that
[17:41] <Myrtti> you need some backup?
[17:41] <Myrtti> I can do while I'm Skypeing
[17:41] <ikonia> Myrtti: he's such a geek
[17:41] <ikonia> Myrtti: I'm about to sign off for a while
[17:41] <Myrtti> ok, I'll have a look
[17:41] <ikonia> lots of user who don't want to work to fix
[17:41] <ikonia> hard work
[17:41] <ikonia> "how" "how" "how"
[17:41] <Myrtti> anyone particular?
[17:41] <ikonia> or users who don't respond to a question
[17:41] <ikonia> everyone !
[17:41] <ikonia> what card are you using
[17:41] <ikonia> "I installed today"
[17:41] <ikonia> what card are you using
[17:42] <ikonia> "its really nice"
[17:42] <ikonia> what card are you using
[17:42] <ikonia> "I want to play videos but it's not working"
[17:42] <jussi01> awww... http://www.linux.com/feature/149992
[17:42] <ikonia> wow linux.com has had a real makeover
[17:51] <Myrtti> ikonia: you're right
[17:51] <Myrtti> it's all full of loonies
[17:51] <ikonia> kill me now
[17:52] <Myrtti> @bansearch kartagis
[17:52] <ikonia> @bansearch kartagis #ubuntu
[17:53] <ikonia> he's not listening
[17:53] <ikonia> everyones like this tonight
[17:53] <ikonia> why are you compiling it from source
[17:54] <ikonia> "I like ubuntu"
[17:54] <ikonia> why are you compiling it from source
[17:54] <ikonia> "I want to compile this"
[17:54] <ikonia> why are you compiling it from source
[17:54] <ikonia> "I think postgres likes it"
[17:54] <jussi01> hehe
[17:54]  * ikonia begs for devine intervention
[17:55] <jussi01> ikonia: Ill cheer you up with a funny story...
[17:55] <ikonia> please do
[17:55] <Myrtti> OH FOR GODS SAKE
[17:57] <jussi01> Was in the pub last night, we sitting there having a pint then this happened:  http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20081011-195742-Fire%20in%20heinahattu.mp4
[17:58] <jussi01> ikonia: dont try stream it, download it
[17:58] <ikonia> doing so
[17:58] <Myrtti> you HAD A FIRE?!
[17:59] <jussi01> yeps
[17:59] <jussi01> in the pub...
[17:59] <jussi01> I should look on yle to see if it got reported...
[17:59] <ikonia> danger !
[18:00] <ikonia> what does the user heyman mean when he says he's at the initramfs prompt ?
[18:00] <ikonia> busybox ?
[18:00] <jussi01> Im guessing so...
[18:01] <ikonia> he's making no-sense
[18:01] <jussi01> that seems to be a theme today...
[18:02] <ikonia> massivlt
[18:02] <ikonia> massivlt
[18:02] <ikonia> massivly
[18:02] <jussi01> hehe
[18:02] <ikonia> can you tell I'm getting flustered
[18:04] <ikonia> a console with a prompt that says "initramfs" what the devil is that ?
[18:05]  * jussi01 hands ikonia a vodka shot... calm down!!
[18:05] <ikonia> I think I'm being taken for a ride
[18:09] <Seeker`> ikonia: anywhere nice?
[18:10] <ikonia> hell
[18:10] <Seeker`> ah
[18:17] <ompaul> ikonia, you don't have to solve the problem
[18:18] <ompaul> the odds are high you will see someone pop up within 5 mins with some other less stupid problem and therein lies the true meaning of the fact you should either do a full install or not
[18:52] <ompaul> note - we just had someone talking about one porn site and not being able to view it in #ubuntu
[18:53] <ompaul> so I call that trolling and pimping and not of the "pimp my ride" style
[20:16]  * ompaul does not understand anymore
[20:17] <ompaul> PriceChild, you about?
[20:31] <ompaul> !nickspam | seanw :-P
[20:31] <seanw> haha :P
[20:31] <jussi01> hehe
[20:31] <seanw> Sowwy.
[20:32] <ompaul> GOTCHA!
[20:32] <ompaul> jussi01, this is no laughing matter :-)
[20:32] <ompaul> heheh
[20:33] <ompaul> do I have to explain what I am to the outside world or will it just accept me for what I am - an irc operator? ;-)
[20:33]  * ompaul rofl
[20:33] <Flannel> ompaul: they'll *take* you as you are.  As for acceptance.....
[20:34] <ompaul> Flannel, fair point, and well made, (mutter mutter mutter mutter mutter)
[20:35] <ompaul> Flannel, and now in reply to you I play Mahler Symphony no 7
[20:35] <ompaul> ha!
[20:42] <Flannel> well, golly gee willickers
[20:47] <ompaul> LjL, pingology
[20:47] <LjL> pongometry
[21:03] <ompaul> !grub
[21:04] <LjL> now that's an url that could be made shorter for sure...
[21:05] <LjL> !no grub is <reply> GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:05] <ompaul> I think it got that long one to be very explicit
[21:05] <LjL> maybe, but it says it already in the factoid anyway
[21:05] <ompaul> ack
[21:47] <ompaul> bans in +1
[21:47] <ompaul> list checked left mr farmer and very recent ones
[21:50] <LjL> interesting... a mibbiter did that
[21:55] <nalioth> but won't do it again
[22:00] <LjL> since there's no auto-kline for exploiters anymore, i suppose there's nothing against auto-ban from the floodbots?
[22:20] <LjL> !version
[22:20] <LjL> are we sure we want that changed from the lsb_release -a it used to give?
[22:20] <LjL> 1) -rc doesn't give you the "Description", which, contrary to the "Version", gives things like 8.04.1 vs 8.04
[22:20] <LjL> (sorry, i mean "Release" not "Version")
[22:21] <LjL> 2) it doesn't tell us whether the fellow might be cheating and using Debian or something
[22:21] <LjL> (or an ubuntu derivative more likely)
[22:22] <tomaw> LjL: is it you that runs the floodbots?
[22:23] <LjL> tomaw: so it is
[22:23] <tomaw> I am curious about the updating stuff
[22:23] <LjL> tomaw: well, i maintain them, i don't run them all on my machine (as you probably know)
[22:23] <tomaw> nod, one runs on one of mine :p
[22:23] <LjL> tomaw: right
[22:23] <LjL> tomaw: well i just fixed a little bug that was demonstrated by that little mibbit idiot
[22:24] <tomaw> what do they do, just wget (or similar) updated code and restart?
[22:24] <LjL> tomaw: better join -monitor
[22:24] <LjL> -ops-monitor that is
[22:25] <tomaw> that explains why I just created #ubuntu-monitor
[22:25] <LjL> heh sorry
[22:26] <ompaul> tomaw, you can feel free to kill that channel ;-)
[22:26]  * ompaul hides
[22:27] <tomaw> :)
[22:28] <ompaul> I really don't like that kind of thing in -ot ergo the "play along and remove"
[22:28] <ompaul> with a do join again
[22:29] <ompaul> ohh I give u
[22:29] <ompaul> up
[22:29]  * ompaul just had two boxes with over 100 cds in each of them fall over
[22:30]  * ompaul vows to make smaller stacks
[22:37] <ikonia> Hmmmm kahrytan's back online after the kline
[22:37] <ikonia> new ip
[22:37] <LjL> oh yeah, my /watch said that earlier
[22:37] <LjL> didn't pay much attention to it
[22:51] <ompaul> ikonia, how long ago was the kline?
[22:51] <ikonia> errr not sure
[22:51] <ikonia> jussi01: told me
[22:52] <ompaul> ack
[22:53] <mneptok> wow, he finally exhibited behavior worthy of a k: ?
[22:53] <ikonia> aparantly so
[22:53] <mneptok> i thought he was more adept at line-walking than that
[22:58] <Seeker`> mneptok: k-line walking?
[22:58] <ompaul> queue johnny cash - walked the kline
[22:59] <mneptok> Seeker`: walking the accpetable behavior line
[23:03] <ompaul> mneptok, hahaha
[23:03]  * ompaul buys kurt a beer and starts singing 80s rock songs
[23:08] <nalioth> mneptok: this was not his first trip on the k-train
[23:12] <Myrtti> didn't christel say about something about if he raises his head...?
[23:14] <christel> yup, he's gone again
[23:15] <christel> mneptok: ah, well, line walking.. we took a leaf out of his book, you know, how only the harasee can deem whether theyre being harassed or not? and no third-party can possibly say either way?
[23:15] <christel> mneptok: well, my users and staff both felt really rather harassed and we dont have much tolerance for harassment
[23:16] <LjL> christel: in which case (that is, if that were the "correct" way to determine whether something is harassment), then he'd be already in court with harassment charges, trust me.
[23:16]  * LjL goes back to his corner.
[23:17] <christel> LjL: that was his explanation when i failed to see how you guys had harassed him
[23:17] <christel> :)
[23:17] <LjL> christel: i know, i know
[23:18] <christel> (otoh, all he did was show me logs in which he joined channels and accused people of harassing him, while kicking and screaming -- at no point did he actually show me anything where anyone had contacted *him* in any way or form)
[23:18] <Seeker`> but logs prove stuff!
[23:18] <Seeker`> if you have logs, you can prove anything!
[23:19] <LjL> christel: well, i, on the other hand, have logs that could likely be intepret as indirect physical threats, but was always sane (or stupid) enough to believe that "could likely be interpreted" cannot be used as proof
[23:19] <christel> based on how he included logs only of making a prat out of himself there is of course a chance he accidentally sent me only the stuff he meant to exclude ;)
[23:20] <christel> but yeah, again, if you spot him evading again please do let any staffer know
[23:22] <christel> :)
[23:23] <Myrtti> CHARLIE LETS GO TO THE MAGIC MOUNTAIN!
[23:24] <christel> MAGIC MOUNTAIN!
[23:24]  * christel goes sit with Myrtti
[23:24]  * jussi01 huggles christel and thankks her for once again sorting kah. out.. :)
[23:24]  * christel hugs jussi01
[23:26] <mneptok> christel: welp, turnabout is fair play ...
[23:27] <mneptok> i have logs that prove i need to eat less Mexican food. wait ... those aren't really logs. but perhaps i've said too much ...
[23:27]  * mneptok detaches and commutes
[23:27] <christel> ;)
[23:28] <ompaul> mneptok, happy post commute read
[23:29] <ompaul> christel, but you saw his logs therefore he is right ....
[23:29] <jussi01> interesting... there is an #ubuntu-it+1
[23:31] <christel> ompaul: :P
[23:31] <christel> ompaul: actually, i saw him join here and harass people :P
[23:31] <ompaul> christel, hehe
[23:32] <ompaul> well the thing is delusion is a terrible affliction, and disabusing people of their delusions is a useful place to be if you want to have useful networks :)
[23:33] <ompaul> to whit: you have exceeded the social norms for this channel, your contribution has been logged, and is unwanted, have a nice day elsewhere
[23:34] <christel> mmm
[23:35] <ompaul> that gets a nod at least even if you don't agree with me :)
[23:35] <ompaul> please don't disabuse me of that particular delusion
[23:36] <ompaul> in an ideal network ops would only be needed to keep flood bots and ubottu-like bots working in case of accidents etc
[23:37] <jussi01> ompaul: such a network doesnt exist
[23:37] <christel> yeah
[23:37] <ompaul> jussi01, ohh you just shattered my dreams ;-)
[23:37] <jussi01> and never will... there completely shattered
[23:38]  * ompaul fains being mortally wounded
[23:39] <jussi01> hehe
[23:39] <jussi01> ompaul: go listen to some aslan and try feel a bit better :D
[23:40] <ompaul> jussi01, now there is an idea
[23:40] <jussi01> :)
[23:40] <ompaul> right now ZZ top are playing that kind of sound
[23:40]  * ompaul goes to seek aslan
[23:40] <Myrtti> SKYPE  ♥ ♥ ♥
[23:40]  * Myrtti huggles everyone
[23:41] <jussi01> oh someone please turn the colors off already...
[23:41] <Myrtti> jussi01: I LOVE YOU  ♥
[23:42] <ompaul> ahhhh
[23:42] <ompaul> the peace
[23:42] <LjL> oh
[23:42] <LjL> you already did it
[23:43] <ompaul> I did
[23:43] <ompaul> LjL, I felt empowered
[23:44] <ompaul> hehe
[23:44] <Myrtti> I love you too ompaul ♥
[23:44]  * ompaul grins at Myrtti
[23:56] <kebomix>  i have problem while compress file in ZIP format , it give me this Error "An error occurred while adding files to the archive." , any one help me with that
[23:58] <Pici> kebomix: This is not a support channel.
[23:59] <Pici> kebomix: #ubuntu is the support channel, asking your question in #ubuntu-irc, #ubuntu-ops and #ubuntu-devel is offtopic for those channels.


[08:35] <Nothing_Much> Who's gonna be the community manager now? o.o
[09:19] <mhall119> not sure yet, that's still being worked out
[09:20] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: ^


[18:25] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: it might not show if you're not using UEFI
[18:25] <ChadTaljaardt> i think i am using UEFI
[18:26] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: sorry, typo dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[18:26] <ChadTaljaardt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23935508/
[18:26] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: nah, mokutil said EFI vars aren't set earlier
[18:26] <magiq> Damn ubuntu terminals looks awefull
[18:26] <ikonia> ubuntu terminals ?
[18:26] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: try the recommended driver
[18:26] <Talche> hmm
[18:26] <ikonia> they are the same terminal applications as every other distro
[18:26] <magiq> I need split screen and for this reason I need multiplexer that works a bit overhead
[18:26] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[18:26] <Talche> i could maybe retry postfix..
[18:26] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: sudo apt-get install nvidia-378
[18:27] <magiq> how to split ubuntu terminal ?
[18:27] <Talche> as apt able to purge sendmail ?
[18:27] <ikonia> "ubuntu terminal" ?
[18:27] <Talche> is*
[18:27] <magiq> I need split screen two terminals
[18:27] <ikonia> magiq: what terminal emulator do you normally use ?
[18:27] <magiq> iterm
[18:27] <ikonia> magiq: so install item then
[18:27] <magiq> ikonia: item?
[18:27] <ikonia> magiq: the terminals that default in ubuntu, are the same as every other major distro
[18:27] <ikonia> magiq: iterm
[18:27] <ducasse> Talche: first off, I expect it to go a lot smoother. try the postfix page on the  ubuntu wiki. second, a lot more people can help you with it as it is far more widely used now.
[18:28] <magiq> ikonia: iterm is osx software
[18:28] <Talche> ok...
[18:28] <Talche> gonna try now
[18:28] <ikonia> magiq: I thought there was a port
[18:28] <ducasse> Talche: apt should purge it, yes.
[18:28] <lm1> Could anyone help me with some BIND9 questions?
[18:28] <magiq> ikonia: nope
[18:28] <Bluerat> Dear all, I upgraded my ubuntu 16 when i reboot I stuck on login screen with this message "recovering journal clearing orphaned inode", any advice!
[18:29] <ikonia> lm1: you can just ask or use the bind channel
[18:29] <ducasse> magiq: you mean two terminal buffers in one window?
[18:29] <lm1> thanks!
[18:29] <ikonia> magiq: try tmux then
[18:29] <magiq> ducasse: yes
[18:29] <EriC^^> Bluerat: it didn't boot fine?
[18:29] <ducasse> magiq: try terminator
[18:29] <magiq> both of them by default looks awefull for eyes
[18:29] <magiq> I used terminator years ago
[18:29] <ikonia> magiq: in what way "look awful"
[18:29] <ducasse> magiq: fix your font, then
[18:29] <ikonia> it's a blank screen with text on it
[18:30] <ikonia> what looks so bad ?
[18:30] <Bluerat> EriC^^: I can't login when I typed my password it stucked
[18:30] <EriC^^> Bluerat: does the guest account work?
[18:31] <ChadTaljaardt> okay done, should i reboot?
[18:31] <ChadTaljaardt> EriC^^
[18:31] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: yeah
[18:31] <Bluerat> EriC^^: works fine quest account
[18:31] <EriC^^> Bluerat: press ctrl+alt+f1, login then type ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[18:32] <EriC^^> Bluerat: check if the owner is your user
[18:32] <EriC^^> (alt+f7 gets you the gui again)
[18:32] <magiq> ikonia: ducasse hard to explain, maybe it is because unity
[18:32] <ikonia> magiq: unity is nothing to do with it
[18:32] <Bluerat> EriC^^: OK let me try
[18:33] <Newbie3> Hello, new user here. I just installed ubuntu for the first time and it boots to a black screen with white text. On a mobile IRC client
[18:33] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | Newbie3
[18:35] <Newbie3> I'm sorry, but that's all gibberish to me.
[18:35] <Newbie3> I don't understand any of it.
[18:35] <EriC^^> Newbie3: did you visit the link?
[18:35] <volkswagner> using virt-manager why do some guests create nvram file and others do not? How can I force a vm to create the nvram file?
[18:35] <Newbie3> Yes. It makes no sense.
[18:36] <Newbie3> I can't even boot into ubuntu, so how would I do any of that...
[18:37] <ioria> Newbie3, you do it before ubuntu boots, in the grub screen
[18:37] <OerHeks> Newbie3, scroll to th part "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)"
[18:37] <OerHeks> all explained there
[18:37] <ioria> Newbie3, press shift to make it visible, right after the bios screen
[18:39] <Newbie3> I don't have a line that says "Linux /boot", I have one that says Linux /vmlinuz..."
[18:39] <ioria> Newbie3, ok, find quiet splash and add   nomodeset then f10
[18:41] <Newbie3> Okay, done. Now I have a purple screen. Should I just wait or?
[18:41] <ioria> Newbie3, if it hangs, press esc to see what its doing
[18:41] <Newbie3> ESC does nothing
[18:42] <Newbie3> (That key *might* be broken-ish. I've had it be flakey when pausing games in Windows)
[18:42] <ioria> Newbie3,  so wait a minute then try to open a console  ctrl+alt+f1 (of f2)
[18:42] <ChadTaljaardt> EriC^^ i rebooted and its still the same
[18:43] <Newbie3> That does nothing as well. (Also the fans have turned off)
[18:43] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, i's persiste with secure boot
[18:43] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, i'd persist with secure boot
[18:43] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria ill look again for the secure boot thing
[18:44] <ioria> Newbie3,  ok, so you are left with Recovery Mode that you can select from the same grub screen
[18:45] <ioria> Newbie3,  Advance Mode
[18:45] <Newbie3> Already done :3.
[18:45] <ioria> Newbie3,  Options
[18:45] <BluesKaj> ChadTaljaardt:  have you tried the nvidia-367 driver , it's older , but stable
[18:45] <Newbie3> Okay, so big grey menu.  http://i.imgur.com/042Ojvq.jpg
[18:46] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: try BluesKaj 's suggestion
[18:46] <ioria> Newbie3,  you can try resume , but it'll probably fail ....
[18:46] <ChadTaljaardt> i still cant see it in the bios ioria
[18:46] <ChadTaljaardt> and i can try
[18:47] <Newbie3> whoa. I didn't touch anything, this happened:  http://i.imgur.com/Z6DkfYI.jpg
[18:47] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  can you paste   sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:47] <Newbie3> I swear I didn't do anything.
[18:47] <Talche> ducass, got trouble with postfix now :(
[18:47] <Talche> not working either....
[18:47] <Talche> mail.log gives following info Feb  5 19:44:59 baserver postfix/smtp[15010]: 471AD61715<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=none, delay=91, delays=0.09/0.02/90/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[<IP_ADDRESS>]:25: Connection timed out)
[18:48] <ioria> Newbie3,  fresh install ?
[18:48] <Newbie3> 15 minutes old, never booted once
[18:48] <Newbie3> Well, booted successfully.
[18:49] <ioria> Newbie3,  16.04 ?
[18:49] <Newbie3> I think? I just clicked download on ubuntu.com
[18:49] <Bluerat> EriC^^: it says -rw------- 1 root root 132
[18:49] <EriC^^> Bluerat: type sudo chown $USER: ~/.Xauthority
[18:49] <Adit> Approximately, how long will it take for 'diff' command to finish on 2 directories which are 170 GB each?
[18:50] <ppf> Adit: no way to tell. couple minutes maybe
[18:50] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/23935663/
[18:50] <EriC^^> i'd think more in terms of hours
[18:50] <Newbie3> I seriously know nothing about Linux. I just wanted to use it to write Ruby apps because I'm tired of Mac.
[18:50] <EriC^^> it has 2 read 340gb and compare them
[18:50] <Talche> ducass still here ?
[18:51] <ppf> EriC^^: true, but the comparison is significantly faster than O(n^2)
[18:51] <Newbie3> So, this is what I get when I boot normally and run "systemctl default", if nothing else it's an error message.
[18:51] <Bluerat> EriC^^: it brings nothing
[18:51] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  yes, you installed in legacy mode probably because of Win 7 ?
[18:51] <Bluerat> EriC^^: nothing appears
[18:51] <Newbie3> http://i.imgur.com/HswrhIc.jpg
[18:51] <ChadTaljaardt> its windows 10
[18:52] <ducasse> Talche: i'm here
[18:52] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  i'am not sure 367 will help, but you can try
[18:53] <Talche> ducass, got trouble with postfix now :(
[18:53] <Talche> not working either....
[18:53] <Newbie3> Does nouveau, HUB0 or GPC0 mean anything?
[18:53] <ducasse> Talche: type the first few characters of my nick and press tab, you don't need to type it in full
[18:53] <Talche> mail.log gives following info Feb  5 19:44:59 baserver postfix/smtp[15010]: 471AD61715<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=none, delay=91, delays=0.09/0.02/90/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[<IP_ADDRESS>]:25: Connection timed out)
[18:53] <ChadTaljaardt> im  in the process of trying it :)
[18:53] <Talche> ok bro ty
[18:53] <Guest1846> f
[18:54] <Newbie3> (Been googling, slow because I'm on a phone)
[18:54] <ducasse> Talche: that is a connection problem, different from what you had with sendmail. this looks like a transient error.
[18:54] <Newbie3> Nvidia drivers are nouveau right? I have an nvidia card.
[18:54] <Talche> so what you suggest?
[18:54] <\9> Newbie3: that or the proprietary drivers provided by nvidia
[18:55] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  the point is that the module is not active so maybe we can try a sudo nvidia-xconfig
[18:55] <ducasse> Talche: try sending to another domain. that mail should get delivered later when it can successfully connect.
[18:56] <onio_> I am having problem with wlan0 not reachable any idea. I am using Edimax usb dongle on Ubuntu 12.04
[18:56] <Newbie3> Ionia, command not found
[18:56] <Bluerat> EriC^^: nothing appears from chown $USER: ~/.Authority what that means ..
[18:56] <onio_> running under Virtualbox
[18:56] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria its just rebooting then we can do it :D
[18:56] <\9> Newbie3: nvidia-xconfig comes with the proprietary drivers
[18:56] <Talche> ducasse: i gave 2 domains, none work :( neither hotmail nor gmail
[18:56] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  ok
[18:56] <ducasse> Talche: similar error for the other mail?
[18:57] <Newbie3> So, I don't have them? That makes sense, it is a FOSS operating system. So, FOSS drivers as standard is sensible.
[18:57] <onio_> when I if bring up the interface it seems to communicate but then dies after left unattended
[18:57] <\9> Newbie3: i don't know if nouveau has anything simialr
[18:57] <EriC^^> Bluerat: it worked
[18:57] <Newbie3> Maybe my system can't use them?
[18:57] <\9> Newbie3: right.
[18:57] <EriC^^> Bluerat: try logging in again
[18:57] <\9> Newbie3: you can use them, but you need to install them manually
[18:57] <\9> !nvidia | Newbie3
[18:57] <Newbie3> So, would uninstalling the FOSS ones help?
[18:58] <Talche> ducasse: same error..
[18:58] <Bluerat> EriC^^: so simple to fix it .. thanks
[18:58] <EriC^^> Bluerat: no problem
[18:58] <Newbie3> \9 I'm sure that page makes perfect sense to you, but it midaswell be cuneiform for me.
[18:58] <\9> Newbie3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia maybe this one is clearer
[18:59] <Caleb__> Can someone help me? I need to install winwar or a program like it
[18:59] <EriC^^> Caleb__: 7z
[18:59] <ducasse> Talche: can you ping those hosts from a shell?
[18:59] <Newbie3> \9 Okay, that makes enough sense for me to know that I can't do it XD. No GUI, and from my trying to do stuff... no internets? Maybe Ethernet would work.
[19:00] <EriC^^> Caleb__: sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[19:00] <OerHeks> p7zip-full & p7zip-rar
[19:01] <Caleb__> How do i open it?
[19:01] <Caleb__> I have already installed it
[19:01] <bivo> is there a system wide equalizer? I'd like to be able to watch blacksmithing and machining videos without the piercing high pitched ring of the anvil of the scream of the power tools either making my ears bleed with headphones or disturbing everyone else if played on speaker
[19:01] <\9> Newbie3: it should be possible to install it from the command line, assuming you can get there
[19:01] <EriC^^> Caleb__: sudo apt-get install p7zip-rar
[19:02] <EriC^^> Caleb__: i think it's 7z x /path/to/file
[19:02] <guardian_> hey eric
[19:02] <Newbie3> Yeah, no internets. Grabbing a cable, unless someone knows how to get wifi from a terminal
[19:02] <Talche> ducasse: seems i cant ping them....
[19:02] <Caleb__> How do i open a folder with it?
[19:02] <Caleb__> I have a .zip.pack that i cant not open
[19:03] <ducasse> Talche: so you have a network problem.
[19:03] <Caleb__> .zip.part
[19:03] <\9> .zip.part sounds like an unfinished download
[19:03] <Caleb__> oh
[19:03] <Caleb__> haha
[19:03] <Talche> ducasse: you might know what could it be or shall i ask on #network
[19:03] <Caleb__> could be why
[19:03] <ducasse> Talche: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[19:03] <ChadTaljaardt> okay im back ioria
[19:04] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  same issue with 367 ?
[19:04] <Newbie3> Okay, plugging in an Ethernet cable still gives me "failed to fetch" on sudo apt-get nvidia-367
[19:04] <\9> they're not available by default, you need to add the extra repository, or "ppa"
[19:05] <Talche> ducasse: i can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:05] <OerHeks> Newbie3, first update.
[19:05] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria yeah same issue :(
[19:05] <magiq> Why this not working http://pastebin.com/UKbXFSLK
[19:05] <Newbie3> Failed to resolve, I have no internet.
[19:05] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-367 xenial
[19:05] <onio_> how else can I kill a process. I am trying to kill wpa_supplicant but not stopping
[19:06] <Newbie3> Or my cable is a POS.
[19:06] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: pastebin/var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:06] <onio_> kill -9 <process id>
[19:06] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:06] <onio_> I have also tried pkill -9 wpa_supplicant but it is not stopping
[19:06] <ducasse> Talche: ok, so it is restricted to certain hosts/networks. it could be a problem with your isp and their connections, in which case it will go away when they fix it.
[19:07] <ChadTaljaardt> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23935769/
[19:07] <OerHeks> magiq, 1. use full paths. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[19:07] <Newbie3> Tried a different cable, ping google.com fails.
[19:07] <EriC^^> onio_: try stopping the service sudo systemctl stop wpa_supplicant
[19:07] <magiq> OerHeks: ok, I'll try
[19:07] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module  again
[19:07] <Talche> ducasse: so what could i do at the moment?
[19:07] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria yeah i see that
[19:07] <onio_> out of curiosity can anyone seem my post
[19:07] <ChadTaljaardt> what does that mean?
[19:07] <pix1> few questions here
[19:08] <onio_> Ha Eric thanks
[19:08] <pix1> is it possible to install full desktop enviroment on Ubuntu Server and manage it via ultraVNC? WILL IT WORK?
[19:08] <ducasse> Talche: nothing, i think. i could ping the ip from your error with no problem, and i doubt the problem is with your machine.
[19:09] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: try sudo modprobe nvidia
[19:09] <Talche> ducasse: hmm... i still think i'm doing something wrong....
[19:09] <ChadTaljaardt> [sudo] password for chad:
[19:09] <ChadTaljaardt> modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:832 kmod_module_insert_module() could not find module by name='nvidia_367'
[19:09] <ChadTaljaardt> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_367': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[19:09] <Talche> ducasse: i can regularely ping hotmail and gmail, but not the ip.s from the error..
[19:10] <ducasse> Talche: are you using a firewall?
[19:10] <gde33> this may be a dumb question but the ubuntu software center was called gnome software for a while but now it is back to ubuntu software? is that correct?
[19:10] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  dpkg -l | grep dkms
[19:11] <ChadTaljaardt> ii  bbswitch-dkms                                   0.8-4ubuntu1                                amd64        Interface for toggling the power on NVIDIA Optimus video cards
[19:11] <ChadTaljaardt> ii  dkms                                            <IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu14                           all          Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework
[19:11] <gde33> I'm trying to search in it but it doens't find anything
[19:11] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  not here please, but it's ok
[19:12] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: dmesg | tail | pastebinit
[19:12] <Talche> ducasse: no firewall bro... and i can ping one of the hosts from the error... the gmail host
[19:12] <Talche> b
[19:12] <Talche> ducasse:
[19:12] <ChadTaljaardt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23935825/
[19:12] <Newbie3> ... why does my computer hate me.
[19:12] <gde33> ah found a web page about it, nvm
[19:12] <Talche> can it be a problem with port 25 or something ?
[19:12] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: dmesg | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[19:13] <ChadTaljaardt> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[19:13] <ducasse> Talche: pastebin both errors
[19:13] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt:  is this ubuntu 16.10?
[19:13] <ChadTaljaardt> 16.04
[19:13] <ChadTaljaardt> no wait
[19:13] <ChadTaljaardt> 16.10
[19:14] <ChadTaljaardt> 16.04 wouldnt work for me
[19:14] <Talche> ducasse: when you say pastebin to paste them here ?
[19:14] <pix1> ChadT why?
[19:15] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, i'd purge 367, reinstall 375 or 378 and try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[19:15] <ducasse> !pastebin | Talche
[19:15] <ChadTaljaardt> ok
[19:15] <arooni> h
[19:15] <Talche> ubottu: thank you
[19:16] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, but the issue might be in SB
[19:16] <Talche> ducasse: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/23935847/
[19:17] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, stop lightdm before
[19:17] <ducasse> Talche: try 'telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 25'
[19:17] <ChadTaljaardt> im just trying to purge the driver quick
[19:17] <Talche> ducasse: it doesn't go through
[19:17] <Talche> ducasse: keeps on trying
[19:19] <ChadTaljaardt> ill reboot then stop lightdm and then do the sudo nvidia-xconfig?
[19:19] <ducasse> Talche: now try that with the other ip address
[19:19] <Newbie3> I removed and blacklisted and initramfs  all nouveau, and I still boot to a black screen on a fresh install.
[19:19] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, yup
[19:20] <Newbie3> Well, slightly not so fresh now. But either way, I need help. I have no idea what to do next and google isn't helping.
[19:20] <Talche> ducasse: cant telnet on 25 even the other....
[19:20] <\9> did you try the nomodeset parameter?
[19:20] <Newbie3> That was the first thing we tried.
[19:20] <\9> hm right
[19:20] <Newbie3> Hung the whole system, couldn't ESC or go to a terminal.
[19:20] <\9> does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell anything?
[19:21] <\9> since the console works then X must be freaking out for some reason
[19:21] <ducasse> Talche: this could be your isp blocking it, i guess...
[19:21] <Talche> ducasse: so... can i use any other port instead?
[19:22] <Newbie3> \9 what am I looking for?
[19:22] <\9> any errors near the end of the file
[19:22] <ducasse> Talche: not really
[19:23] <Talche> ducasse:  :( soo.. i can't get this outbound server to work ? :(
[19:23] <ducasse> Talche: looks like it. you'll need to use a vps or something.
[19:23] <Newbie3> \9 I don't see anything, but you might  http://i.imgur.com/1QMYEX4.jpg
[19:23] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria https://cl.ly/0G100R1X2h2S
[19:24] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, and with sudo ?
[19:25] <ChadTaljaardt> https://cl.ly/3Q3m2W3E0o3p
[19:25] <ChadTaljaardt> it created a file
[19:26] <Talche> ducasse: but if i can telnet my public IP on 25 does it still mean it is blocked by isp?
[19:26] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, yes, reboot ... (sig !)
[19:26] <wedgie> Talche: doing it from inside your network is one thing... can you do it from outside?
[19:27] <Talche> wedgie: 1 sec ill try from 3g :D
[19:27] <ducasse> Talche: that is incoming.
[19:28] <Rxbad> Hello
[19:29] <ChadTaljaardt> okay now what :D ioria
[19:29] <Rxbad> What
[19:29] <ducasse> Talche: also, you can connect to that without going through your isp since it is local.
[19:29] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  i assume you cannot login ....
[19:30] <Newbie3> I have no idea how but I managed to get Ethernet working.
[19:30] <ChadTaljaardt> nope :(
[19:30] <Rxbad> nice
[19:30] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:31] <Newbie3> Installing nvidia-367 now
[19:31] <ChadTaljaardt> ok
[19:31] <logosv> Odd question, but how do you disable the disabling of the touchpad while typing in Ubuntu 16.10(gnome)?
[19:31] <Rxbad> Is that a GT 710
[19:31] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2 | pastebinit
[19:31] <Rxbad> Drives
[19:31] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: egrep -HR "drm|modeset" /etc/modules /etc/modules.d | pastebinit
[19:31] <ChadTaljaardt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23935988/
[19:32] <ChadTaljaardt> EriC^^ empty document
[19:32] <Talche> ducasse: wedgie i cant telnet 25 on anything
[19:32] <Talche> ducasse: wedgie is it possible that something in my configuration is blocking outgoing telnet?
[19:32] <ducasse> Talche: you tested from 3g?
[19:32] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   we want to try with nomodeset ?
[19:32] <wedgie> Talche: outbound seems unlikely unless you set up something for that on purpose
[19:32] <ChadTaljaardt> we can try
[19:33] <Rxbad> Newbie
[19:33] <ducasse> Talche: no, unless you have a firewall. you said you don't.
[19:33] <Rxbad> Do you have a GT 710
[19:33] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   from grub , press 'e' or 'tab' find 'vmlinux line' and after quiet splash add   nomodeset
[19:33] <Newbie3> RxBad, 740M
[19:33] <ChadTaljaardt> okay hold on :)
[19:33] <wedgie> Talche: I haven't been following the whole conversation, but if you suspect that the ISP might be blocking 25 (as some do) then you might just contact them and ask. In some cases you may even be able to get them to allow it if there were blocking it
[19:34] <Rxbad> Ok
[19:34] <ducasse> wedgie: that is basically what we've narrowed it down to
[19:34] <Newbie3> It's my work machine, a Toshina Satelite P... something or other ... shiny aluminum heat sink of love.
[19:35] <Talche> ducasse: wedgie if i telnet incoming that doesn't tell anything... gonna call the isp now..
[19:35] <ducasse> Talche: btw, where in the world are you?
[19:35] <Rxbad> I have a 710 on the box
[19:35] <Newbie3> I got it because Apple appears to have decided that sanity isn't in mind for the future of their product line. So, I was hoping to move to Linux :3
[19:36] <Rxbad> Ok
[19:36] <Rxbad> Good luck
[19:36] <wedgie> also, if you're trying to set up a mail server at home (again, i haven't read the whole convo) then you're probably going to have a bad time. Email is a beast these days. Mostly because of anti-spam stuff. Even if you can get it working from a technical standpoint, a lot of places might reject mail from you just because you're coming from a residential IP
[19:36] <Talche> ducasse: i live in Bosnia :D
[19:36] <Talche> ducasse: haaha i guess you pinged me and saw a dot on the map :D hahaha
[19:36] <wedgie> or because the PTR for your ip doesn't match your domain
[19:37] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria okay its booting
[19:37] <ChadTaljaardt> added the line
[19:37] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  ok
[19:37] <Newbie3> Black screen again. Wow.
[19:37] <ducasse> Talche: aha. an ip address from a dynamic range in bosnia will be blocked on a *lot* of mail servers
[19:37] <wedgie> not just from bosnia. From anywhere, really
[19:37] <ChadTaljaardt> okay its booted ioria
[19:38] <Talche> ducasse: wedgie so if i try to mail one of my mails on a paid host, should go through?
[19:38] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  try to login
[19:38] <wedgie> Talche: you'll probably have better luck. But no gurantees. As I said, mail is a beast
[19:38] <ChadTaljaardt> same issue haha ioria
[19:38] <ducasse> Talche: please clarify what you mean
[19:38] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[19:39] <Rxbad> There is squirrel mail server it's nice
[19:39] <ducasse> Talche: if you mean using a vps instead, then that usually works as long as the provider has a decent reputation.
[19:39] <Talche> ducasse: wedgie i just called the isp and the port is not blocked by them...
[19:39] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: do you have other kernels installed?
[19:40] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria rebooting after that command
[19:40] <ducasse> Talche: then the servers themselves are blocking you
[19:40] <ChadTaljaardt> and EriC^^ dont think so
[19:40] <Newbie3> Is there anyone I can call or pay to deal with this ?
[19:40] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  yes,  paste ls /boot | pastebinit
[19:40] <wedgie> Talche: well, if you can't hit port 25 on your own local server from the outside then you haven't done your portforward correctly
[19:40] <dumle29> Newbie3: What's going on?
[19:40] <Newbie3> Like, official ubuntu support or something?
[19:41] <Rxbad> Only paid version
[19:41] <dumle29> Newbie3: Don't expect the plug and play experience that you are used to. Linux does still take a bit of work now and then to get it to behave as you'd like
[19:41] <Newbie3> Dumle29, New user, fresh install, boots to terminal. After nomodeset didn't work, and it dropped to the terminal again, I'm out of ideas and everyone else is too.
[19:42] <dumle29> what's the hardware?
[19:42] <ChadTaljaardt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23936050/
[19:42] <Talche> ducasse: i have a hosted web at www.promoface.biz it doesn't go out to that addres either...
[19:42] <Newbie3> Dumle29 Nvidia 740M, intel i7, 16GB ram, 1080p 17" display.
[19:42] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  yes,  you have this one 4.8.0-34-generic
[19:42] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: try in grub advanced > 34 kernel
[19:42] <dumle29> Newbie3: i7 doesnt' say much :)
[19:43] <ducasse> Talche: no, and that will be the case for most domains.
[19:43] <Rxbad> Bye
[19:43] <ChadTaljaardt> EriC^^ what does that mean haha
[19:43] <wedgie> Talche: sure, but is a mail server listening there?
[19:43] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-gneric
[19:43] <Newbie3> Dumle29, I have no idea what more you'd want. It's a quad core? Haha.
[19:43] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  or you can select it from grub - Advanced Options
[19:43] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[19:43] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: in the grub menu go to advanced
[19:43] <dumle29> Newbie3: Can you run hwinfo --short | pastebinit
[19:43] <Newbie3> Ah... no internet on the try.
[19:44] <Newbie3> Tty*
[19:44] <Talche> wedgie:  it is i recieve mail regularly...
[19:44] <dumle29> Newbie3: oh :/
[19:44] <ChadTaljaardt> i pressed e on the grub screen
[19:44] <Newbie3> Hwinfo is not currently installed.
[19:44] <wedgie> Talche: it's listening on 587
[19:44] <dumle29> Newbie3: Can you install software from tty?
[19:44] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  nope
[19:44] <dumle29> sudo apt install hwinfo
[19:44] <kk4ewt> lspci |pastebinit
[19:44] <dumle29> that'd work too
[19:44] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  Advance Options
[19:44] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: nah, no e, at the bottom there should be advanced
[19:45] <Newbie3> Dumle29, Does not resolve.
[19:45] <royal_screwup21> Hey guys! I have a text file containing several sentences, one below the other. I want to feed each of these sentences, one by one, into an online sentiment analyzer (don't ask why), and fetch their corresponding scores. Can someone point me on the right track as to how I could automate this process?
[19:45] <ducasse> Talche: there isn't really much you can do about this, other than not run the mail server from your home :)
[19:45] <dumle29> Newbie3: I don't know man :/
[19:45] <ChadTaljaardt> oh right i see it now
[19:45] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: one per line?
[19:45] <Newbie3> Dumle29. Let me try what I tried before to get it working. I had Ethernet working for like 5 minutes before.
[19:45] <royal_screwup21> wedgie yup
[19:45] <ChadTaljaardt> starting 34 now
[19:45] <Talche> wedgie: ducasse i can telnet to my ip address on port 25 from 3g on mobile..
[19:46] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, and please try also the Guest Account
[19:46] <ducasse> Talche: that isn't related
[19:46] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: looping through the file is easy enough... how to submit it will depend on the website you're submiting to
[19:46] <mgaunard> what's the difference between packages "adb" and "android-tools-adb"?
[19:47] <helphelp> am i able to get some help through this channel with problem decrypting encrypte drive?
[19:47] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria guest no access
[19:47] <helphelp> anyone who is able to help I have btc handy for a generous tip
[19:47] <Talche> ducasse: ok... but is there any way to test if all the servers on the world are blocking me, or i have something wrong on my machine?
[19:47] <helphelp> as I have spent over a day and I am worried my files might be lost
[19:47] <k1l> mgaunard: its just a link to adb
[19:47] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, you user ?
[19:47] <ChadTaljaardt> nope
[19:47] <Newbie3> I have no idea why that works but it does! I got Ethernet, XD. I have to enable networking in recovery mode and then select the dpkg option and let it fail. Any other way and it doesn't work XD.
[19:47] <wedgie> Talche: most won't straight up block,they just won't accept your mail
[19:47] <royal_screwup21> wedgie: for what it's worth, it's this site: http://sentiment.vivekn.com/
[19:48] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, can you ask how it went when you first installed ubuntu ?
[19:48] <mgaunard> k1l: I do not understand your answer
[19:48] <logosv> Question: How can I disable the disabling of the touchpad while typing in Ubuntu 16.10(Gnome)? The option doesn't appear to be in the usual place, and syndaemon appears to not exist on the system.
[19:48] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, *I
[19:48] <mgaunard> k1l: the packages are mutually exclusive
[19:48] <ducasse> Talche: this is not a problem on your machine
[19:48] <Newbie3> dumle29, okay, picture of that command:
[19:48] <k1l> mgaunard: the android-tools-adb is just a link to the adb package.
[19:48] <ChadTaljaardt> when i tried 16.04 or 16.10?
[19:48] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  16.10
[19:48] <mgaunard> k1l: that's not possible since installing one removes the other
[19:49] <ChadTaljaardt> when i clean install ubuntu 16.10 everything works except the mouse pointer doesnt move from the top left, but if you go to additional drivers then video card then install that one it works
[19:49] <ChadTaljaardt> ive never had this issue before
[19:49] <Talche> ducasse: wedgie or might it be a problem that i have dynamic IP and going through ddns service?
[19:49] <ducasse> Talche: both
[19:50] <Newbie3> dumle29: paste.ubuntu.com/23936109/
[19:50] <magiq> How to make terminal show words with colors as default terminal ?
[19:50] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  ok, you installed a ppa ?
[19:50] <Newbie3> If I typed that incorrectly let me know.
[19:50] <ChadTaljaardt> whats that?
[19:50] <magiq> *how to make terminator show colors as default terminal
[19:50] <magiq> I want to see colored user name and else
[19:50] <dumle29> Newbie3: Has it ever worked?
[19:50] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[19:50] <ChadTaljaardt> yeah i think so
[19:50] <Talche> :(
[19:51] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  and you first try with the repo ones ? or not ?
[19:51] <ioria> *tried
[19:51] <Newbie3> dumle29: I've never used Linux before, so I guess no?
[19:51] <ChadTaljaardt> iused the one that the menu gave me
[19:51] <dumle29> Newbie3: I'd try the install again in that case
[19:51] <dumle29> as you have no data to loose
[19:52] <ducasse> Talche: you need a static ip on a 'clean' range, and dns set up to match your reverse dns
[19:52] <Talche> ducasse: yea... but i don't have one... so that is what i gues the problem is... i hve to configure something in postfix that i didn't
[19:53] <ducasse> Talche: no, you can't fix this by configuring postfix.
[19:53] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  dmesg | grep -i nvidia     tells soemthing ?
[19:55] <ducasse> Talche: a mail server on a home connection can only be used for a very limited set of things, like local mail
[19:55] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: while read -r line; do curl --data "txt=$line" http://sentiment.vivekn.com/api/text/; done
[19:56] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: the result will be a a json block for each line
[19:56] <royal_screwup21> Wow, thank you wedgie!
[19:56] <k1l> mgaunard: what ubuntu are you on  exactly?
[19:56] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: oh wait, may be a better way. one sec
[19:56] <ChadTaljaardt> https://cl.ly/0V1n2w0x171O
[19:56] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria
[19:57] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: ah, maybe not. Their batch api requires your requests to be in json format, so probably more work for you
[19:57] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  367 ? still there ?
[19:57] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: also, almost forgot one part: a t the very end you need:    < yourfile.txt
[19:58] <pepp> ciao
[19:58] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: so actually this: while read -r line; do curl --data "txt=$line" http://sentiment.vivekn.com/api/text/; done < file.txt
[19:58] <pepp> !list
[19:58] <royal_screwup21> wedgie Yay, thanks!
[19:58] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: http://sentiment.vivekn.com/docs/api/
[19:58] <ChadTaljaardt> i did autoremove and i purged it
[19:58] <ChadTaljaardt> i dont understand
[19:58] <sn0wh1t3> first time here =)
[19:58] <superguest> algorithms
[19:59] <mgaunard> k1l: 16.04 lts
[20:00] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  better reboot with the latest kernel you have and paste again ?
[20:00] <ChadTaljaardt> okay holdon
[20:00] <ChadTaljaardt> if i do a sudo reboot will it auto select the other version?
[20:00] <k1l> mgaunard: and what is removing which package?
[20:01] <mgaunard> k1l: adb and android-tools-adb
[20:01] <mgaunard> same with fastboot and android-tools-fastboot
[20:03] <Talche> join #networking
[20:03] <Talche> join #networking
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> Talche  it's   /j ##networking
[20:04] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  sure
[20:04] <ducasse> Talche: they can't 'fix' this for you, though
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> haven't followed, was away
[20:06] <ducasse> MonkeyDust: running a mail server on a home connection, he's unable to deliver mail.
[20:08] <k1l> mgaunard: well, did you try to use both of them? the android-tools-adb is the older package, its included since 14.04. the adb is included  since 16.04
[20:08] <cfox> привет
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[20:09] <mgaunard> k1l: that doesn't answer my question, I asked what's different about them and why there are two of them
[20:09] <MrOpenSource> Hello I am new here
[20:09] <Bashing-om> MrOpenSource: :) Welcome to ubuntu support .
[20:10] <k1l> mgaunard: i dont know. i guess adb is from the ubuntu-touch and is overlapping the older android tools pacakge so they cant be installed both at the same time
[20:11] <MrOpenSource> Thank you Bashing-om
[20:11] <ChadTaljaardt> its rebooting ioria
[20:11] <cfox> dont speak rus?
[20:11] <ChadTaljaardt> sorry for delays im trying to multitask
[20:12] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria i rebooted and this is the output https://cl.ly/3f0T3f3I3C32
[20:13] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   grep -i nvidia /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit
[20:13] <Seveas> cfox: not in here, no. In #ubuntu-ru they do
[20:13] <MrOpenSource> it is possible to change text font and colour from terminal ??
[20:14] <Seveas> MrOpenSource: yes, it is.
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> MrOpenSource  Edit > Profile prefernces
[20:15] <cfox> Seveas thanks!)
[20:15] <ChadTaljaardt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23936318/
[20:15] <lord_daemon> Does anyone know any free ddns?
[20:15] <EriC^^> lord_daemon: what's a ddns?
[20:16] <Seveas> lord_daemon: you mean things like no-ip.com?
[20:16] <Bashing-om> MrOpenSource: A lot depends on what Desk top environment AND the terminal that you are runing ..  GUI appearnace is generally controlled by the theme you have installed .
[20:16] <lord_daemon> I want to access my computer from the street with a name I give it, type no-ip
[20:16] <lord_daemon> Seveas yep
[20:16] <MrOpenSource> I am very new to Ubuntu but I installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS 64bit in dualboot
[20:16] <lord_daemon> But no-ip now has limitations
[20:17] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   lspci -k | grep VGA -A2 | grep Kernel
[20:17] <ChadTaljaardt> i used no-ip, i love it :D
[20:17] <ChadTaljaardt> 	Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau
[20:18] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   i still think to secure boot ... :þ
[20:18] <Seveas> lord_daemon: dynu.com perhaps? It's been a while since I had to use dynamic dns hacks...
[20:18] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria i tried looking in the bios again and i still cant see anything about it at all
[20:18] <ChadTaljaardt> i went through each section
[20:19] <Bashing-om> !manual | MrOpenSource Are you aware :
[20:19] <ChadTaljaardt> but it doesnt explain it becuase it has been working for like 2 weeks and then i rebooted and then it stopped working suddenly
[20:20] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   https://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/60819-ga-990fxa-ud3-secure-boot.html  as you see there is
[20:20] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: look at /var/log/apt/history.log for stuff you installed 2 weeks ago
[20:21] <MrOpenSource> Bashing-on thank you very much, i take a look
[20:21] <ChadTaljaardt> ive installed tons of stuff and removed tons of stuff too
[20:21] <ChadTaljaardt> haha
[20:21] <hahahha> hey guys, i started using linux a few weeks ago and im loving it so far, only thing is, i see all these programs that can be installed by get-apt. whats get apt and how do people learn to install anything by that command?
[20:21] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: look at around the time the problem started
[20:21] <ChadTaljaardt> thats difficult becuase the computer has been on a few days :/
[20:21] <ChadTaljaardt> i think its probably easier to just try reinstall lol
[20:22] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: nah, look at the date
[20:22] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria i must disable CSM?
[20:22] <ChadTaljaardt> ill look
[20:22] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: try "ls -l ~/.Xauthority" for a sec
[20:22] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: it isn't secureboot related
[20:22] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   you installed in legacy mode (csm)
[20:23] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: what date does ls give?
[20:23] <ChadTaljaardt> -rw------- 1 chad chad 62 Feb  5 19:47 /home/chad/.Xauthority
[20:24] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   try to remove it
[20:24] <ducasse> !software | hahahha read this :)
[20:24] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria rm -rf ~/.Xauthority ?
[20:24] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: wondering how you could get the date of the last time it successfully logged in
[20:25] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   mv .Xauthority Xauthority.back
[20:25] <ChadTaljaardt> that wont help either i dont think becuase i use the machine over ssh
[20:25] <ChadTaljaardt> i just turn it on and thats it
[20:26] <EriC^^> what?
[20:26] <EriC^^> oh nevermind
[20:26] <ChadTaljaardt> ive moved that file now
[20:26] <EriC^^> it wont help
[20:27] <EriC^^> the Xorg log says it can't open any /dev/drm file
[20:27] <ChadTaljaardt> could it have somethign to do with visudo
[20:27] <EriC^^> no
[20:27] <ChadTaljaardt> hm
[20:27] <ChadTaljaardt> becuase i edited that file but i put it back how it was also
[20:28] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  we can install anothe DE, if you want
[20:28] <ChadTaljaardt> DE?
[20:28] <EriC^^> won't help either
[20:28] <EriC^^> it's a problem with the kernel not giving that file
[20:28] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  another desktop so you can work in a gui
[20:29] <ChadTaljaardt> i dont need to work in a gui actually haha, the issue is becuase i try running my python script and get this error, but this is realted. https://cl.ly/0Q0e0E2V1t0C
[20:31] <Quatroking> Hi
[20:31] <Quatroking> where do I go for questions about the ubuntu wiki? I'd like a page removed
[20:31] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: try "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[20:32] <ChadTaljaardt> modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:832 kmod_module_insert_module() could not find module by name='nvidia_378'
[20:32] <ChadTaljaardt> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_378': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[20:33] <EriC^^> ChadTaljaardt: anything in "dmesg"
[20:33] <EriC^^> ?
[20:33] <ChadTaljaardt> tons lol
[20:33] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  have you used the .cuda installer ?
[20:33] <ChadTaljaardt> yes ioria but i said no to the nvidia driver on that
[20:34] <ChadTaljaardt> EriC^^ https://cl.ly/25031J0L0g1Z
[20:35] <SaintMoriarty> For some reason my curl to https is not working through crontab, is there any parameters that I need to use?
[20:35] <EriC^^> SaintMoriarty: nope, is it usually working from the terminal?
[20:35] <SaintMoriarty> yes
[20:35] <EriC^^> SaintMoriarty: what command are you using?
[20:36] <SaintMoriarty> /usr/bin/curl "https://myurl"
[20:36] <EriC^^> SaintMoriarty: that's all?
[20:36] <SaintMoriarty> yes
[20:36] <EriC^^> SaintMoriarty: what's line line in crontab?
[20:36] <EriC^^> *the line
[20:37] <SaintMoriarty> * * * * * /usr/bin/curl "https://myurl" >/dev/null 2>&1
[20:37] <EriC^^> SaintMoriarty: ok, so how do you know it's not working?
[20:37] <pfifo> Hello everyone
[20:37] <EriC^^> hey
[20:37] <SaintMoriarty> because  it calls a url that executes a task
[20:38] <SaintMoriarty> when I do the curl from terminal it works
[20:38] <EriC^^> SaintMoriarty: ok, try with curl "......" > /tmp/curllog 2>&1
[20:38] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda.list
[20:39] <ChadTaljaardt> ls: cannot access '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda.list': No such file or directory
[20:40] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  dpkg -l | grep *cuda*
[20:40] <ChadTaljaardt> its blank
[20:40] <pfifo> I just upgraded from a nvidia card to an Radeon RX480, everything is going great but I am at a total loss for how to set the display resoultion, it is defaulting to 1920x1080 but the display is actually a television and its native resolution is 1366x768 which is a super rare resolution. Im using Lubuntu 16.04 and have fussed around a bit with xrandr but cant not seem to get it to generate an approprate
[20:40] <pfifo> modeline, it keeps insiting on a 1368 vertical resolution and when I try with that modeline my display refuses to use it.
[20:41] <tchnq> Can anyone help me make hotcorners work automatically after restart?
[20:41] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   ok, so for now, the last think i could think of, is to purge nvidia* again and try to login with nouveau. But you could end up with a blank screen
[20:43] <tchnq> Is dconf-editor a good idea to try on ubuntu 16.04 as a fix for hotcornerns
[20:43] <tchnq> ?
[20:43] <BluesKaj> odd that no nvidia drivers work , there must be something else mucking things up
[20:44] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   <IP_ADDRESS> + nouveau should work with your card
[20:45] <ChadTaljaardt> how do i do the nouveau thing
[20:45] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   sudo apt purge nvidia+ and reboot
[20:45] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   sudo apt purge nvidia* and reboot
[20:45] <ChadTaljaardt> ill try
[20:45] <ChadTaljaardt> do i do autoremove?
[20:46] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   ok
[20:48] <ducasse> pfifo: can't be that rare, 1366x768 is what my laptop uses. works out of the box with the radeon driver.
[20:50] <buck_> .
[20:50] <Bashing-om> pfifo: A thought, did you purge the old nVidia driver prior to insalling the AMD card ? Maybe we have a failure to communicate at the hardware level ?
[20:52] <pfifo> Bashing-om: i have multi monitor amdgpu-pro is working spot on, and everything nvidia/cuda related is gone
[20:52] <pfifo> ducasse: im using amdgpu-pro, im a gamer and need hw
[20:53] <pfifo> i suppose the question really is, how do i create a modeline appropriate to my monitor?
[20:53] <ChadTaljaardt> its rebooting now :)
[20:53] <Ben64> pfifo: what display is it, and how is it connected
[20:53] <ChadTaljaardt> now what? ioria
[20:54] <tchnq> does anyone knows a fix for hotcorners on ubuntu 16.04?!
[20:54] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   rebooted and no login ?
[20:54] <ChadTaljaardt> ill test now
[20:54] <ChadTaljaardt> :)
[20:54] <pfifo> Ben64: Emmerson LC320EM connected via HDMI
[20:55] <ChadTaljaardt> i dont know how to do the noveau thing
[20:55] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, nouveau is the default driver, if you purged nvidia you only have that
[20:55] <Ben64> pfifo: what's the output of 'xrandr'
[20:56] <ChadTaljaardt> so i can then just reboot and thats it :D
[20:56] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, yep
[20:56] <ChadTaljaardt> i just see a black screen
[20:56] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  right...
[20:57] <pfifo> Ben64: http://dpaste.com/2PEC1VV
[20:57] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  wait a bit, open a console with ctrl+alt+f1
[20:57] <ChadTaljaardt> wait
[20:57] <ChadTaljaardt> there its back
[20:57] <ChadTaljaardt> the screen just came back, ill try login now
[20:57] <Ben64> pfifo: try using the 1360x768 or the 1280x720
[20:58] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, ok
[20:58] <pfifo> Ben64: neither work
[20:59] <ChadTaljaardt> okay login works
[20:59] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, hurra
[20:59] <Ben64> try using a different hdmi port on your tv
[20:59] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, cat ~/.xsession-errors
[21:00] <ChadTaljaardt> https://cl.ly/2s3n072k2h0E
[21:00] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  that's a terrible paste-site
[21:00] <ChadTaljaardt> i just got a error too "System program problem detected"
[21:00] <ChadTaljaardt> its a screenshot site haha
[21:00] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit
[21:01] <ChadTaljaardt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23936647/
[21:01] <pfifo> Ben64: I swapped hdmi ports but I am unsure of how to proceed
[21:01] <Ben64> see if it works now
[21:02] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, can you try the Guest Account ?
[21:02] <ChadTaljaardt> sure
[21:02] <pfifo> Ben64: the only resolution i could get workingn was 1920x1080
[21:02] <Ben64> pfifo: does it actually display
[21:02] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt, and again  cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit
[21:03] <pfifo> Ben64: and it is badly clipped, the majority of the screen is located outside of the LCD
[21:03] <pfifo> Ben64: 1920x1080 works, it is just blurred and clipped
[21:04] <Ben64> sounds like your tv just sucks
[21:04] <ChadTaljaardt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23936674
[21:04] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  no good
[21:05] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  dpkg -l click
[21:05] <pfifo> Ben64: it does, however it worked fine with ndivia... I think i have located the issue here, http://dpaste.com/0JVDR0F as you can see the modeline its generating is forcing me to a 1368 resolution and that is incorrect it is supposed to be 1366 and I typed in 1366
[21:06] <ChadTaljaardt> on the guest accout?
[21:06] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  yes, ...
[21:06] <joakimk> Ubuntu 14.04: I installed some "important security update for my hardware" (or something), and ubuntu asked for a reboot. But now, after this, I am unable to log in: The screen only flickers, and the log in window reappears
[21:06] <ChadTaljaardt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23936698
[21:06] <joakimk> (also , the monitor resolution is way off)
[21:07] <joakimk> how can I fix this?
[21:07] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   did you install it ?
[21:07] <k1l> joakimk: does the guest account work?
[21:07] <joakimk> k1l: no, same problem
[21:08] <k1l> joakimk: so a driver issue? what ubuntu? what video card? how did you isntall that driver? does an older kernel in grub work?
[21:08] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   try to remove it   sudo apt purge click
[21:08] <ChadTaljaardt> from guest still?
[21:08] <joakimk> k1l: Well :) Can I somehow boot in in "text only mode", so I can get the answers to what you're asking?
[21:09] <joakimk> there's some key-combination to switch away from GUI, right?
[21:09] <k1l> joakimk: ctrl+alt+f1 to tty, crtl+alt+f7 to switch back to X
[21:09] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   no, you need to login you user
[21:10] <k1l> joakimk: but i would first try the older kernel in grub extended menue
[21:10] <joakimk> k1l: ok, thanks! Now I'm logged in
[21:10] <joakimk> ah... in the login screen?
[21:10] <joakimk> oh, in grub!
[21:10] <k1l> joakimk: no, grub is the boot menue right after the bios.
[21:11] <joakimk> rebooting. The GRUB loader has the following options: "Ubuntu". "Advanced options for Ubuntu"
[21:11] <grimel> Hi, all. I have a problem configuring my old G3010 scanner for Ubuntu - can anybody help me out with this?
[21:11] <joakimk> or Memory tests
[21:11] <joakimk>  +windows :)
[21:11] <k1l> joakimk: advanced options. then the second latest kernel
[21:12] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   purge also libatk-adaptor libgail-common
[21:12] <ChadTaljaardt> okay done
[21:12] <ChadTaljaardt> ok
[21:12] <joakimk> right! So, the top one is 4.4.0-62-generic. The second one, is 4.2.0-42-generic
[21:12] <joakimk> that one?
[21:12] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   no, wait
[21:12] <k1l> joakimk: yes
[21:12] <joakimk> that worked. So what does that mean?
[21:12] <joakimk> is the "62" one the new one I just installed?
[21:13] <k1l> joakimk: so something with the latest kernel doesnt work with your video drivers. now we need the specifics i asked before
[21:13] <ChadTaljaardt> uhm
[21:13] <ducasse> grimel: have you installed hplip?
[21:13] <ChadTaljaardt> ive already did it
[21:13] <joakimk> gotcha! So how do I get those parameters? Thanks again for helping me!
[21:13] <grimel> ducasse: hplip is for printers only, isn't it?
[21:13] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   apt get install libgail-common libatk-adaptor
[21:14] <ducasse> grimel: nope
[21:14] <grimel> ducasse: anyway it's already installed
[21:14] <ChadTaljaardt> done
[21:14] <k1l> joakimk: "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url ehre
[21:14] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   logout/login and
[21:15] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,  cat ~/.xsession-errors | pastebinit
[21:15] <ChadTaljaardt> hold on :)
[21:15] <joakimk> k1l: http://termbin.com/vg1n
[21:15] <joakimk> k1l: neat way to dump to a pastebin :)
[21:17] <ChadTaljaardt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23936786/
[21:17] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria
[21:17] <ducasse> grimel: according to sane-project.org, this should work: https://sourceforge.net/projects/hp3900-series/
[21:17] <akik> joakimk: another way which you can use for multiple commands is "pastebinit <( command1; command2 )"
[21:17] <k1l> joakimk: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:18] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   so now you can login with opensource driver, but you still have a tons of errors
[21:18] <grimel> ducasse: tried it - "Error : Some error caused GIT command execution. Are you sure you've installed GIT client?"
[21:18] <ChadTaljaardt> why would these errors have started do you know?
[21:18] <grimel> ducasse: git is installed
[21:18] <joakimk> k1l: http://termbin.com/c6h7
[21:19] <ducasse> grimel: ok, then you need to ask the sane guys or the devs of that driver (more likely)
[21:19] <joakimk> akik: nice :)
[21:19] <k1l> joakimk: and now again from the failed boot "cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log |nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:19] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   on unity, usually when you do something you should not have done :þ
[21:20] <joakimk> k1l: there's no such Xorg.1.log file. I only have Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old
[21:20] <grimel> ducasse: that's funny, just tried again and it worked...wtf))
[21:20] <k1l> joakimk: ok, then the old one
[21:20] <ChadTaljaardt> ioria lol so you mean install Ubuntu?
[21:20] <ChadTaljaardt> just kidding
[21:20] <joakimk> k1l: http://termbin.com/694z
[21:20] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   funny
[21:20] <ChadTaljaardt> well thanks for your help, ill see how everything goes
[21:21] <joakimk> k1l: what are you looking for :)
[21:21] <ioria> ChadTaljaardt,   ok
[21:21] <k1l> joakimk: look at the last paste, the nvidia driver is failing there
[21:22] <k1l> joakimk: look for EE
[21:22] <joakimk> I see it!
[21:22] <alpha_> best advice for someone
[21:22] <alpha_> who just got started with elementary os
[21:22] <alpha_> ?
[21:22] <k1l> joakimk: ok, now please "dpkg -l |grep nvidia |nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:22] <xangua> alpha_: switch to Ubuntu?
[21:22] <alpha_> ahahahh
[21:23] <alpha_> but elementary os is ubuntu/debian based
[21:23] <k1l> alpha_: since you ask in here, install ubuntu :)
[21:23] <joakimk> k1l: http://termbin.com/a45r
[21:23] <xangua> ! Elementary | alpha_
[21:23] <kk4ewt> alpha go to the elemtryos channel for support
[21:23] <alpha_> ok
[21:23] <alpha_> cool
[21:23] <alpha_> thank you
[21:24] <k1l> joakimk: ok, now please "cat /var/log/apt/term.log |nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:24] <joakimk> k1l: http://termbin.com/v61m
[21:27] <bivo> is there a system wide equalizer? I'd like to be able to watch blacksmithing and machining videos without the piercing high pitched ring of the anvil of the scream of the power tools either making my ears bleed with headphones or disturbing everyone else if played on speaker
[21:29] <k1l> joakimk: ok, now please "dpkg -l |grep wily |nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:29] <joakimk> k1l: http://termbin.com/yds3
[21:30] <ducasse> bivo: maybe libasound2-plugin-equal does what you want, read the description
[21:30] <rizonz> does ubuntu always needs a /etc/default/program for an initscript ?
[21:30] <xangua> Pulse audio equalizer bivo webupd8http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer.html
[21:31] <xrandr_laptop> Is there a way to upgrade to 16.10 via command line?
[21:31] <k1l> joakimk: ok, i guess your system is somehow confused since you had the wily backports kernel and xorg installed (which is outdated) and its still somehow partly installed
[21:31] <EriC^^> xrandr_laptop: sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:31] <k1l> xrandr_laptop: sudo do-release-upgrade after you set the release prompt to "normal" instead of LTS only
[21:32] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, how does one set the release prompt to normal?
[21:32] <dax> ubottu: upgradeofflts
[21:32] <k1l> joakimk: ok, now please "dpkg-query -l *-lts-* | grep '^ii' |nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:34] <joakimk> k1l: this is way over my head :) Here's the paste: http://termbin.com/huxa
[21:34] <xrandr_laptop> ok, it's upgrading thanks!
[21:34] <k1l> joakimk: ok, there is still some lts-wily stuff isntalled
[21:35] <k1l> joakimk: sudo apt-get -s install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial
[21:35] <k1l> the -s will simulate only, does this want to remove pacakges?
[21:36] <joakimk> ok
[21:36] <joakimk> :)
[21:36] <\9> don't need sudo if you use -s
[21:36] <DukeNukem_> is the Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 Dual-X Edition 2Gb drivers going to work on the 17?
[21:37] <bivo> ducasse already installed it, but I don't see any kind of GUI for controlling the audio
[21:37] <joakimk> k1l: http://termbin.com/3ofo
[21:38] <DukeNukem_> hello
[21:38] <joakimk> k1l: seems it doesn't recommend installing/removing anything?
[21:38] <bivo> xangua Looks like the kind of thing I'm after, I'll give it a try
[21:38] <k1l> joakimk: yes, i wonder why the 4.2 kernel works but the 4.4 kernel doesnt.
[21:39] <k1l> joakimk: sudo apt install --reinstall nvidia-367
[21:39] <gravity> hello
[21:39] <joakimk> apt or apt-get?
[21:39] <k1l> apt is the new apt-get :)
[21:39] <joakimk> much better :)
[21:40] <xrandr_laptop> it says the upgrade can take several hours?!
[21:40] <xrandr_laptop> is that.....normal?
[21:40] <ducasse> bivo: the package desc says to use alsamixergui or alsamixer
[21:41] <k1l> xrandr_laptop: depends on your download speed, yes.
[21:41] <\9> and your cpu speed too, when it comes to the actual installing
[21:42] <zacwalls> Hello, I recently installed Ubuntu 16.04 alongside Windows 10 on a SSD I just bought and I am noticing some very slow boot times. I started off trying to fix this problem by going into startup applications and disabling everything I don't need (such as the screen reader) but I am not noticing any changes in results. I looked at log files and everything looks normal from what I can tell. Any advice?
[21:43] <wedgie> how long is "very slow"?
[21:43] <joakimk> k1l: ok, it's done. Reboot?
[21:44] <k1l> joakimk: yeah
[21:44] <zacwalls> wedgie: like a 1:30.... That's really slow compared to windows 10...
[21:44] <ducasse> zacwalls: pastebin 'systemd-analyze blame' and give us the link
[21:45] <joakimk> k1l: still same thing :(
[21:45] <joakimk> does anything indicate something wrong with the previous kernel, btw?
[21:45] <joakimk> maybe I should just "stick with that"
[21:46] <joakimk> or is this easily fixable, do you think?
[21:46] <zacwalls> ducasse: woah wth??? Thats super useful, and I see the problem now.... http://pastebin.com/3SRQxhzW
[21:46] <zacwalls> 13min 59.800s apt-daily.service :/
[21:46] <zacwalls> that can't be accurate
[21:47] <k1l> the 4.2 kernel is dead and doesnt receive any security updates anymore
[21:47] <ducasse> zacwalls: ok, try 'journalctl -u apt-daily.service'
[21:48] <zacwalls> ducasse: there is nothing abnormal there. Feb 05 13:20:01 zacbox systemd[1]: Started Daily apt activities
[21:48] <k1l> joakimk: hmm, maybe try to apt purge nividia* . after that is done without error, install nvidia-346
[21:49] <joakimk> k1l: and it doesn't matter that I do this while "logged into the previous kernel" (guess that maybe makes no sense?)
[21:49] <zacwalls> why does "starting/started daily apt activities" take so long?
[21:49] <k1l> joakimk: yes, that doesnt matter
[21:49] <joakimk> ok thanks!
[21:50] <ducasse> zacwalls: does 'apt install -f' say/do anything?
[21:52] <joakimk> k1l: uh.. Now, I can't log into the "42-kernel" anymore either...
[21:52] <joakimk> :-o
[21:53] <zacwalls> ducasse: Yes it reads the package lists, builds a dependency tree, reads state information and then prints 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 220 not upgraded. So no, not really...
[21:53] <k1l> joakimk: does tty1 work?
[21:53] <zacwalls> 220 not upgraded...
[21:53] <ducasse> zacwalls: aha. try 'apt full-upgrade'
[21:54] <zacwalls> ducasse: will that fix it? If so, why?
[21:54] <joakimk> k1l: ctrl-alt-F1 gives me just, "login: * Starting CUPS printing spooler/server             [ OK ] "
[21:54] <joakimk> there's no login prompt, not even there
[21:54] <ducasse> zacwalls: you must have been using 'apt upgrade' instead, which won't install all updates. i'm guessing the missing ones causes apt.daily service to take so long starting up.
[21:54] <joakimk> ah hit enter
[21:54] <k1l> joakimk: press enter once
[21:55] <joakimk> yes
[21:55] <joakimk> ok, logged in
[21:55] <joakimk> I think ;)
[21:55] <joakimk> yeah
[21:55] <k1l> joakimk: then "sudo apt purge nvidia*"
[21:56] <joakimk> k1l: it just gives me, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[21:56] <joakimk> :-/
[21:56] <k1l> so the nvidia install didnt work before?
[21:57] <k1l> joakimk: try a" sudo apt install nvidia-346"
[21:58] <joakimk> k1l: Runs into an error and fails: "Could not resolve 'no.archive.ubuntu.com'" and same for 'security.ubuntu.com' --- unable to fetch some archives
[21:58] <rizonz> is someone able to check with me why cpan cannot insll modules like IO::Socket::SSL ?
[21:58] <joakimk> maybe run apt-get update, or try with --fix-missing?
[21:59] <k1l> joakimk: can you "ping google.com"  cancel with ctrl+c
[21:59] <zamba> all login and sudo operations are taking forever to complete
[21:59] <joakimk> unknown host (!)
[21:59] <k1l> joakimk: ok, so no internet
[21:59] <zamba> it seems like there's some kind of timeout happening
[21:59] <joakimk> so it's offline?
[22:00] <k1l> joakimk: what brings you: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[22:00] <k1l> nvidia or nouveau?
[22:00] <k1l> you can look at lspci -nnk
[22:01] <joakimk> k1l: doesn't seem to give any output...?
[22:01] <joakimk> running just "lspci -nnk" does give something though
[22:01] <k1l> it should name the driver in use
[22:02] <zacwalls> Sorry my connection timed out
[22:02] <joakimk> k1l: well, NVIDIA is found, but "nouveau" was not found (in the output)
[22:04] <k1l> joakimk: i dont understand why its not purging the nvidia driver when its using the nvidia. i dont know in what state your system is there
[22:05] <matt___>
[22:05] <k1l> because if the nvidia is purged it should  run with nouveau. and that should be shown by lspci -nnk
[22:05] <joakimk> k1l: of course, this is difficult to diagnose/repair via IRC :) Thanks for your patience! But, do you think this is fixable, or will I have to reinstall Ubuntu ... :(
[22:06] <k1l> joakimk: i dont really understand the issue right now. that doesnt make sense when it works with the latest driver on kernel 4.2 but not on 4.4 and not at all with the second latest driver from nvidia
[22:07] <joakimk> k1l: but now it doesn't work on 4.2
[22:08] <joakimk> k1l: can't log in to any of the kernels listed under the Advanced menu, in GRUB
[22:08]  * xrandr_laptop sighs in contentment
[22:09] <k1l> joakimk: make sure "sudo apt purge nvidia*" removed all nvidia stuff
[22:09] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, will nvidia drivers work with ubuntu? the ones you download from nvidia.com?
[22:10] <k1l> joakimk: after that try the nomodeset setting (see bot link for one time in grub describtion) when its booting with noveau with the 4.4. kernel
[22:10] <k1l> !nomodeset | joakimk
[22:10] <Guestie> Do I need a multi-world plugin with GriefPrevention, worldedit, and Nucleus? I am running Sponge 1.10.2, modded server.
[22:10] <Guestie> WRONG CHAT! So sorry!
[22:10] <k1l> xrandr_laptop: better use the one from the ubuntu repos. not from their website
[22:10] <xrandr_laptop> ok
[22:11] <xrandr_laptop> i may switch my desktop from fedora to ubuntu
[22:11] <xrandr_laptop> I never thought I'd say this, but I like the unity desktop now
[22:11] <xrandr_laptop> I used to hate the bar at the side. But now that you can auto-hide it, i kinda like it
[22:11] <k1l> xrandr_laptop: you can put it to the bottom now, too
[22:12] <xrandr_laptop> you can?
[22:12] <joakimk> k1l: well, I booted back into the "62" kernel, in TTY, and did the purge command again: "Package 'nvidia' is not installed, so not removed"
[22:12] <joakimk> does that look promising?
[22:12] <xrandr_laptop> is that in 16.04 or 16.10 ?
[22:12] <k1l> joakimk: the * at the end is important
[22:12] <joakimk> hold on
[22:12] <joakimk> aha!
[22:12] <k1l> sudo apt purge nvidia*
[22:12] <joakimk> After this operation, 341 MB disk space will be freed
[22:12] <joakimk> so Y then?
[22:12] <k1l> yes
[22:13] <xangua> xrandr_laptop: I think both
[22:13] <joakimk> must have missed that before. Have to read from this PC, and type onto the Ubuntu prompt :)
[22:13] <joakimk> ok, so it ran
[22:13] <joakimk> reboot? do I have to try the "nomodeset" parameter?
[22:14] <joakimk> I could maybe be so lucky that it now works.....??
[22:14] <matt___>  /quit
[22:14] <k1l> joakimk: first try the 4.4 kernel now. if that doesnt work do the nomodeset parameter on that
[22:14] <joakimk> ok, so rebooting back into "default GRUB choice"
[22:14] <joakimk> right?
[22:15] <k1l> yes
[22:15] <joakimk> k1l: Excellent :D You saved my day!
[22:15] <joakimk> thanks a bunch
[22:16] <Guestie> Any good multi-world type of plugins for Sponge 1.10.2?
[22:16] <ducasse> Guestie: still wrong channel...
[22:17] <Guestie> ducasse, oh my God. :\
[22:17] <Guestie> I'm stupid.
[22:17] <ducasse> Guestie: we all have those days :)
[22:17] <hahahha> guys what program should i use on ubuntu that works like microsoft outlook?
[22:18] <k1l> hahahha: thunderbird
[22:18] <hahahha> k1l thunderbird is very bad! i tried it and it downloaded every single mail in my inbox! i have a lot of folders in my gmail account
[22:19] <ducasse> isn't evolution outlook'ish? never used outlook myself, so no clue...
[22:19] <k1l> hahahha: that is just a config thing then.
[22:19] <hahahha> k1l any idea how to do this?
[22:21] <k1l> hahahha: you can set it in the settings for that account what to sync etc. just open the settings and make it matching your usecase
[22:21] <gravity> hi
[22:21] <gravity> can anybody help me?
[22:22] <alpha_> yes
[22:22] <alpha_> if i have the knowledge to do so
[22:22] <xrandr_laptop> gravity, please state the nature of the linux emergency
[22:22] <xrandr_laptop> oh, he left
[22:27] <joakimk> k1l: uh, so sorry to bug you again, but after ~10 minutes the computer froze. Can move mouse, but nothing else
[22:28] <k1l> joakimk: hmm
[22:28] <joakimk> k1l: did a "hard reboot", will try again. But
[22:30] <joakimk> k1l: working again now... Maybe just a hiccup?
[22:30] <hertz> Hello
[22:30] <xrandr_laptop> hello hertz
[22:31] <glache> hi
[22:31] <xrandr_laptop> hi glache
[22:32] <dumle29> So I'm about to put a days worth of work into setting up several CSGO servers, with ebot. Is there any free way I can make that in an easily deployable manner, that isn't hardware specific?
[22:33] <dumle29> Like, I set it up on my VPS, or alternatively home server, and then when I need it for a LAN, I'll deploy it onto a dedicated server
[22:33] <hahahha> what's the use of ''home server''?
[22:33] <hahahha> isn't every pc a server?
[22:33] <dumle29> can be
[22:33] <dumle29> but I have a 2U
[22:40] <joakimk> k1l: I'm hoping it was a one-off problem. Is there any way I now might check that nividia is indeed un-installed?
[22:40] <joakimk> (and this nouveau is installed)
[22:41] <ksan02> hello
[22:41] <glache> hi
[22:42] <joakimk> k1l: should not have thought that -- there it just happened again :( Full monitor freeze
[22:43] <joakimk> so, a full re-install of the linux partition is perhaps the best solution?
[22:43] <Ntemis> can anyone help me kill caja?
[22:43] <Ntemis> i get caja failing on me every day after updating to 1.16
[22:43] <Ntemis>  killall caja does nothing
[22:44] <Ntemis> heeelp
[22:45] <Ntemis> heeelp?
[22:45] <Ntemis> i killed caja and now i see no desktop icons
[22:46] <Ben64> run caja
[22:46] <Ntemis> run not found
[22:46] <Ben64> ...
[22:46] <Ntemis> No command 'run' found, did you mean:
[22:46] <Ben64> caja
[22:46] <Ziyad> Wuz good boys
[22:47] <Ziyad> Who's watching Super Bowl
[22:47] <Ntemis> caja does nothing
[22:47] <Ben64> !ot | Ziyad
[22:47] <ducasse> Ntemis: which ubuntu version?
[22:47] <Ntemis> 16.04.1
[22:47] <Ntemis> ah wait
[22:47] <joakimk> k1l: thanks again, got to go. I'll get back to the freeze problems later. Thanks for helping me out!
[22:48] <\9> caja is the desktop and file manager so if you kill that of course your desktop icons go
[22:48] <dylan_> Hello
[22:48] <ducasse> Ntemis: ok, so you installed caja from somewhere else and now it fails?
[22:48] <\9> ducasse: caja is the ubuntu mate desktop and file manager
[22:48] <Ntemis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23937425/
[22:48] <Ntemis> somewhere!?!
[22:49] <ducasse> \9: i know, but xenial does not ship 1.16
[22:49] <ducasse> !info caja xenial
[22:49] <\9> oh.
[22:49] <\9> i thought the 1.16 was a typo of 16.04
[22:49] <Ntemis> bash: !info: event not found
[22:50] <\9> the !info was to trigger the reply from ubottu
[22:50] <Ntemis> i installed mate 1.16 from official page
[22:50] <\9> well.. why did you do that?
[22:50] <Ntemis> because is official?
[22:50] <ducasse> Ntemis: which page?
[22:50] <wedgie> Ntemis: pasting commands you don't understand from an irc channel (or anwywhere, for that matter) into your shell is a bad habit.
[22:50] <\9> Ntemis: official mate maybe. but not official for ubuntu
[22:51] <Ntemis> yes official mate
[22:51] <\9> ...
[22:51] <Ntemis> https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/mate-desktop-116-for-xenial-xerus/
[22:51] <Ntemis> i need to revert then
[22:52] <\9> that's a PPA
[22:52] <\9> that is not official yet
[22:52] <Ntemis> whaat?
[22:52] <Ntemis> is on the official page of mate ubuntu
[22:52] <Ntemis> and you say is not official?
[22:52] <pavlos> Ntemis, I started caja, it popped the File Manager, in a term I typed killall caja and was gone. Running UM 16.04, caja 1.12
[22:53] <ducasse> Ntemis: "The version of MATE Desktop 1.16 in this PPA..." so ppa, not official.
[22:53] <Ntemis> pavlos: edi file mou then pethainei me tipota
[22:53] <Ntemis> *edo
[22:54] <pavlos> Ntemis, maybe caja 1.16 has some issues
[22:54] <Ntemis> yeap
[22:54] <Ntemis> i will revert to official mate version asap
[22:55] <Ntemis> ppa-purge  ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/xenial-mate is enough for this?
[22:56] <Ntemis> ok here goes nothing
[22:56] <Ntemis> downgrading
[22:57] <Ntemis> ha i got my desktop back
[22:57] <Ntemis> buggy as hell
[22:57] <k1l> joakimk, sorry was busy
[22:58]  * xrandr_laptop wonders how many more packages he has left before the upgrade is done. too bad the command line doesn't give a progress report
[22:59] <pavlos> Ntemis, you can read about caja issues ... https://github.com/mate-desktop/caja/issues/380
[22:59] <bivo> how can I map a sequence of button presses to either constantly repeat or be tied to a single button press?
[23:00] <Ntemis> pavlos: i dont use audio files
[23:00] <Ntemis> i was trying to unmount a sshfs mount
[23:01] <Ntemis> and caja freaked
[23:01] <pavlos> Ntemis, some of the comments mention that caja becomes unresponsive, difficult to kill ... reboot
[23:01] <Ntemis> yes this is my issue
[23:01] <Ntemis> but i have reverted to 1.14
[23:03] <Ntemis> PPA purged successfully
[23:03] <Ntemis> yeah!
[23:06] <Ntemis> just added my opinion
[23:06] <Ntemis> thanks pavlos for the thread
[23:16] <xrandr_laptop> i think it's close to being done
[23:16] <xrandr_laptop> it's generating boot images
[23:26] <hahahha> what's the best linux in your opinion? ive tried mint and ubuntu so far, what should i try next?
[23:27] <Ben64> it's all just preference, but this isn't the channel to discuss other distros, maybe try ##linux
[23:27] <k1l> hahahha: obviously #ubuntu :) but you might want to ask in ##linux
[23:28] <hahahha> haha what's so special about ubuntu?
[23:34] <xrandr_laptop> ubuntu means unity which is something this world could use!
[23:36] <xrandr_laptop> ah, i liek the launcher bar at the bottom :P
[23:37] <xrandr_laptop> brb gotta reboot
[23:44] <xrandr_laptop> ok i wish i didn't do the upgrade
[23:44] <xrandr_laptop> the unity desktop is all messed up. After I log in I just get a black background, no launcher, no wall papaer. and the windows are lacking controls
[23:44] <xrandr_laptop> how can I fix this?
[23:45] <Herbalist> anyone happens to know how i can get an actual GtkCellrenderer mouseclick event, instead of the currently available "activate" event ?s ?
[23:46] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, any ideas?
[23:46] <k1l> xrandr_laptop: does guest account work?
[23:46] <xrandr_laptop> let me check. I'd need to log out and try it
[23:46] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, if it does, what do i do?
[23:47] <\9> Herbalist: you won't have much luck getting gtk programming help here, try some gtk channel or forums
[23:47] <Herbalist> i did.. but noone is talking there
[23:47] <k1l> if it works there, then login as user again and rename the .config folder to .config.backup and relogin
[23:47] <xrandr_laptop> ok
[23:47] <xrandr_laptop> brb
[23:52] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, no dice
[23:52] <k1l> xrandr_laptop: so the guest account is messed up too?'
[23:52] <xrandr_laptop> guest doesn't work, renaming .config to .config.backup doesn't work
[23:52] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, yes
[23:52] <k1l> what ubuntu? what video card?
[23:53] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, i just upgraded from 16.04 lts to ubuntu 16.10
[23:54] <xrandr_laptop> i had also installed compiz
[23:54] <xrandr_laptop> should i uninstall compiz?
[23:54] <k1l> you should not have to install or remove compiz ata ll
[23:54] <k1l> waht video card? what driver?
[23:54] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, not sure. it's an older laptop
[23:55] <xrandr_laptop> AND Vision e1 i think
[23:55] <k1l> lspci will list the card
[23:55] <afru_> so. how about we target trump's twitter with a ddos
[23:55] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7310]
[23:55] <k1l> hmm, i am not familiar with amd, but if 16.04 worked i dont see why 16.10 should not work
[23:55] <afru_> we're all smart lads and can pull that off
[23:56] <k1l> afru_: we focus on only ubuntu support in here.
[23:56] <afru_> i jest.
[23:56] <skywalker> hi
[23:56] <calf> hi
[23:56] <xrandr_laptop> is there a driver i can install for radeon video cards?
[23:57] <k1l> xrandr_laptop: since the amd video driver is amd_gpu now and is already put into the kernel it should not need to do anything.
[23:57] <k1l> xrandr_laptop: you could try if "nomodeset" helps you.
[23:57] <k1l> !nomodeset  | xrandr_laptop
[23:58] <k1l> xrandr_laptop: but i am not a amd specialists. maybe others in here do know more about
[23:59] <Housekeeping> is btrfs something similar to windows storage spaces
[23:59] <k1l> btrfs is a new filesystem. like ntfs just with other features


[00:00] <cjwatson> oh, and some good news before I go on holiday, the GTK installer boots in karmic
[00:00] <cjwatson> no effort put into customising it yet, but at least I get the language screen
[08:33] <evand> woohoo, ^ glad to hear the news on GTK d-i
[13:51] <e1luca> hi I have 2 (newbie) questions:
[13:51] <e1luca> 1 Now have Fedora10 installed. can install over or I have to erase the HD?
[13:51] <e1luca> 2 I have a Vaio FW21E with intel core 2 duo (64bit). what image should I use 9.04 i386 or amd64?
[13:51] <e1luca> tnx in advance
[15:26] <CIA-4> usb-creator: evand * r98 usb-creator/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
[15:26] <CIA-4> usb-creator: Add a simplistic estimator of the remaining time. Thanks Lars
[15:26] <CIA-4> usb-creator: Wirzenius (LP: #333051).
[16:05] <Carlis> I want to install Xubuntu in PC.
[16:05] <Carlis> I have created bootable Live USB drives.
[16:05] <Carlis> I restart the PC with the flash memory inserted and
[16:05] <Carlis> I have three options to choose: 1.Default. 2.Help. 3. oem=OEM.
[16:06] <Carlis> I choose Default option and then I choose Install incon in the desktop.
[16:06] <Carlis> and I receive an error message.
[16:06] <Carlis> The error message is: Sorry the program "ubiquity" closed unexpectedly.
[16:06] <Carlis> How do i fix this issue ?
[16:06] <Carlis> Thanks for helping me.
[16:07] <Carlis> is there anybody here ???
[16:17] <Carlis> Hi ???
[16:17] <Carlis> I am waiting here for help
[22:56] <CIA-4> usb-creator: evand * r99 usb-creator/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
[22:56] <CIA-4> usb-creator: Go back to the Intrepid behavior of using MB precision for the persistent
[22:56] <CIA-4> usb-creator: storage size.


[20:36] <pindonga> hi, I'm creating a snappy pkg, and I have almost everything working, but I still got 2 questions
[20:38] <pindonga> 1. how can I make it so a config file is placed in the right location when the pkg is installed ? whatever I put into the source folders gets written to /apps/<pkg>.sideload/<version>/ but when running snappy config it expects the file in /var/lib/apps/<pkg>.sideload/<version>/
[20:39] <pindonga> 2. is there an easy way to get the config also exposed via the webdm ui, so that users can edit it from the webui?
[20:39] <pindonga> 3. the pkg provides a service, but the service will not start properly unless some hardware has been plugged in (a printer in this case)
[20:40] <pindonga> is there a way to restart the service via the webui? or maybe I need to add some dbus rules so it restarts when the device is plugged?


[01:23] <Guest22641> Hi guys.  just installed mythbuntu but am having some trouble pointing it to my media directory
[01:24] <Guest22641> anyone here?
[01:26] <jamesd2> oh no its m1dn1ght2 .. its past by bedtime ;-)
[01:27] <m1dn1ght2> Am I keeping you up? :P
[01:27] <m1dn1ght2> I don't suppose you could help me?
[01:28] <jamesd2> never really had any issues.. but i just use the default.. just run the config program and it allows youi to set them up
[01:28] <jamesd2> what is your error
[01:29] <m1dn1ght2> well I ran through the config but it never really offered me the chance to point it in the direction of my movie directory.  Maybe I just clicked passed it.  At any rate I can't figure out how to add it
[02:23] <jz7> Anyone have any luck with the snapstream rf remote?
[02:24] <jz7> I was using mythdora and monkeyed around with some setting just to get a few keys working...But figured the fixed were baked in to mythbunta
[02:24] <jz7> any ideas on how to get it to work?
[02:24] <jz7> I'm using mythbunta 9.04
[02:26] <jz7> :)
[02:34] <jz7> Should this be a myth tv question?
[08:42] <lavermil> anyone awake?
[08:42] <lavermil> I have an issue
[08:43] <lavermil> I can only get video by doing a cd v4l-dvb-<some numbers>s; sudo make unload; sudo modprobe cx18;
[08:43] <lavermil> as soon as I do a sudo make install it breaks
[08:43] <lavermil> during the make install there are no errors
[08:44] <lavermil> cancel the last line.
[08:52] <lavermil> but still no workie in watch tv
[09:14] <oobe> its most likley a dkms issue
[09:14] <oobe> i dont know how to help that just my 2 cents
[10:33] <chris_> I had 2 instances of mythfront end; dont know how this happenning
[10:34] <chris_> after start up
[11:09] <chris_> -
[23:36] <MythbuntuGuest71> Hello all... just a quick question about a cover flow type interface in .22
[23:54] <MythbuntuGuest03> mythbuntu forums down :(
[23:57] <MythbuntuGuest71> yeah, all of Ubuntu forum is down :(


[02:36] <daftykins> Hi ubuntulog2!
[02:38] <Anastasius> wut.
[02:38] <Anastasius> Let's see if this gets logged.
[02:39] <Anastasius> Hey fuckfaces. Unban me. Yours truly, Anastasius.
[02:39] <daftykins> Hi Anastasius, do you use Ubuntu and are looking for love?
[02:41] <Anastasius> Nope.
[02:41] <daftykins> Ah.