[07:47] <q_a_z_steve> wasabi_ something did because I'm wireless for sure. my IP is <IP_ADDRESS> anyway... In order to boot I have linux think it's the master, and I'm going to edit c:\boot.ini in windows to still have controll but have the option to boot to linux on the other hdd.
[07:47] <garryF> ouch! Three days.
[07:47] <q_a_z_steve> two separate HDD.
[07:47] <Geoffrey2> and from what I've been reading, an overwhelming majority of wireless problems are anyone using a Broadcom chipset
[07:47] <raiinstorm> who linked me to the 5 button mouse howto for a PS2 mouse?  I forgot to save the link!!!
[07:47] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, Qemu uses a user space NAT.
[07:47] <ronnnn> yeah...
[07:47] <wasabi_> Linux never needs to be the "master" to boot.
[07:48] <DonL> It's late for me.. Good night, all
[07:48] <wasabi_> Only Windows has that silly problem. :0
[07:48] <garryF> !mouse
[07:48] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:48] <skavenge> funny as it is i did a clean install and had to go buy a usb wireless nic till i got it fixed heh
[07:48] <yoshiznit123> hi everyone, i installed added edgy repos to try out a couple programs, and now i'd like to downgrade back to dapper only... is there a way to make sure all packages have versions that match those in the current repos?
[07:48] <raiinstorm> garryF:  thank you thank you.
[07:48] <q_a_z_steve> I know what you mean but if windows doesn't see it it does. I have to unplug my IDE.
[07:48] <garryF> welcome
[07:48] <wasabi_> Put linux on the second HD. Slace.
[07:48] <wasabi_> slave
[07:48] <ronnnn> i like so need help with this wireless..can i chat with someone in seperate chat about it?
[07:48] <DShepherd> nite guys
[07:49] <oni-dracula> does anyone know of a program for linux that can be used to split large .mp3 files?
[07:49] <q_a_z_steve> it is.
[07:49] <q_a_z_steve> then I need to set up the dual.
[07:49] <rock-lobster> oni-dracula, audacity
[07:49] <garryF> Man, I'd love to help ye but I dunno anyting about wireless except it made my hair fall out.
[07:49] <q_a_z_steve> that's where I was told to edit grub and boot.ini
[07:49] <ronnnn> thansk anyway garryf
[07:49] <oni-dracula> rock out, rock-lobster
[07:49] <q_a_z_steve> hang on I'll get you a link.
[07:49] <KaiserSuse> oni-dracula: and the fragments still be playable?
[07:50] <garryF> ronnnn Good luck with that, There is bound to be someone who can help ye along eventually
[07:50] <oni-dracula> one would assume, KaiserSuse
[07:50] <farous> ronnnn: if you want you can speak in the main room and people will see how they can help
[07:50] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, All you need to do to set it up right is boot linux with both HD's in, then write a new MBR to the master.
[07:50] <Dial_tone> there's something depressing about not being able to decide which is more important. a 20" LCD or a 32" flat screen tv.
[07:50] <Geoffrey2> well, it looks like none of the logs kick in early enough in the boot process for me to see what's happening....almost right after the kernel is unpacked, I'm getting some error that says "unable to allocate"..but it flies by so fast I can never read enough to know if it's something I should be worried about or doing something to fix...
[07:50] <ronnnn> Whats the main room ?
[07:50] <KaiserSuse> oni-dracula: X or console?
[07:50] <q_a_z_steve> If I right a new MBR ten Win2k has issues.
[07:50] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, That's fine, you can get Win2K working with Grub.
[07:50] <oni-dracula> KaiserSuse, X is preferable...I'm a winders convert
[07:51] <wasabi_> You just need to be in Linux to set it up.
[07:51] <farous> ronnnn: you are in it so what is your card type. i only have experience with broadcom (probl) and intell
[07:51] <ronnnn> broadcom 4318 54g Airforce...the dreaed one that dosnt work
[07:51] <KaiserSuse> oni-dracula: as rock-lobster said, try audacity
[07:51] <q_a_z_steve> how do I paste into qemu?
[07:51] <oni-dracula> KaiserSuse, roger that
[07:51] <wasabi_> Beats me.
[07:51] <wasabi_> Don't know why qemu is in the picture. ;)
[07:52] <q_a_z_steve> www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[07:52] <farous> ronnnn: did you try the bcm43xx drivers they are in the repos. i never managed to work the ndiswarapper on dapper. on breezy it was easy
[07:52] <q_a_z_steve> I think that is it.
[07:52] <ronnnn> how do i get those in the repos?> i'm totally new to this
[07:52] <shadeofgrey> okay
[07:52] <farous> !tell ronnnn about repos
[07:52] <farous> ronnnn: follow ubotu link on how to add extra repos
[07:52] <shadeofgrey> doies anybody in here have a macbook pro with the upgraded ati video card?
[07:53] <q_a_z_steve> top page from google.com search Ed's Software Guide on Linux
[07:53] <wasabi_> Don't really know why you're showing me that.
[07:53] <mrproper> How can I get divx support in xine?
[07:53] <xKintaro> OMG WORLD READABLE HOMEDIRCETORIES
[07:53] <yoshiznit123> hey everybody, i added edgy repos to try out a couple programs, and now i'd like to downgrade back to dapper only... is there a way to make sure all packages have versions that match those in the current repos?
[07:53] <farous> ronnnn: crimsun had special repos for broadcom. do not have the link to them now though sorry
[07:53] <xKintaro> LOLOLOLOL
[07:53] <xKintaro> OMG OUTDATED PACKAGES WITH SEVERE SECURITY ISSUES
[07:53] <xKintaro> LOLOLOL
[07:54] <polpak> !ops
[07:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:54] <linux1> hiya i cant get the live cd to run on my penitum d830 crashed out all tehtime tryed the safe install as well
[07:54] <q_a_z_steve> brb
[07:54] <farous> polpak: there is ignore command too quite helpfull /ignore
[07:54] <Seveas> Madpilot, to the rescue
[07:54] <xenex> Anyone good with video drivers knowledge, please see my query. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1182340
[07:54] <Diablito> some body use Debian sarge??
[07:54] <Seveas> Diablito, #debian
[07:55] <polpak> farous: I'm familiar with it.. thx
[07:55] <farous> :)
[07:55] <Pharaoh_Atem> can someone help me with getting Breezy Badger to configure sound?
[07:55] <polpak> Pharaoh_Atem: what sound isn't working?
[07:55] <Pharaoh_Atem> pretty much
[07:55] <Pharaoh_Atem> it wont recognize it at all
[07:55] <yoshiznit123> ...anybody?
[07:56] <Pharaoh_Atem> its a Compaq Presario 5190
[07:56] <Diablito> Seveas, jajajjaja
[07:56] <Diablito> jajajjaja
[07:56] <Ademan> so uh... how can i play midi files?
[07:56] <Pharaoh_Atem> with a ESS onboard sound
[07:56] <Diablito> just play
[07:56] <Diablito> jajajaj
[07:56] <raiinstorm> Okay guys if I'm working with a 6 button mouse.. would this be wrong?  (according to the HOWTO)
[07:56] <raiinstorm>   Option          "Buttons"               "7"     Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
[07:56] <Seveas> Ademan, try timidity+freepats
[07:56] <raiinstorm>         Option          "ButtonMapping"         "1 2 3 6 7"
[07:56] <Ademan> thanks Seveas
[07:56] <Diablito> Ubuntu its for dummies
[07:56] <KaiserSuse> Does anyone knows how big would an ubuntu mirror (i386 only) would be? (including main, restricted, universe and multiverse)
[07:56] <Diablito> jejej
[07:56] <raiinstorm> Should it not be   Buttons  "5"?
[07:56] <ronnnn> i'm gonna go crazy...i need this to work
[07:57] <Seveas> !mouse > raiinstorm
[07:57] <Ademan> ronnnn: ?
[07:57] <Pharaoh_Atem> i have been slaving away at the compaq for hours
[07:57] <wasabi_> KaiserSuse, Probably a few hundred gb
[07:57] <ronnnn> broadcom 54g 4318 on drapper
[07:57] <Pharaoh_Atem> just installing Breezy badger
[07:57] <raiinstorm> I'm already looking at !mouse!!
[07:57] <Pharaoh_Atem> Dapper Drake wouldn't even load
[07:57] <yoshiznit123> ...none of you apt gurus know? :-)
[07:57] <rexykik> !xorg
[07:57] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:57] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: Why didnt you do dapper?
[07:57] <polpak> Pharaoh_Atem: why wouldn't dapper install?
[07:57] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: whoa... what do you mean?
[07:57] <bthornton> Hey all: I've got two NICs in my desktop PC, one of which goes to my Internet router and the other is connected to my laptop via a crossover cable.  What I want is to have the laptop get its internet through the desktop.  Will I need to setup iptables rules in order to do this, or is it sufficient just to enable ip_forwarding?
[07:58] <polpak> bthornton: you need to set up NAT in iptables
[07:58] <ronnnn> anyone think i will ever get the broadcom 4318 54g working???
[07:58] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: so... the installer CD wouldn't run? once you installed it wouldnt boot? what?
[07:58] <rexykik> bthornton, you'll need to configure your NAT
[07:58] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan/polpak: dapper would not install in any form, it just hung
[07:58] <polpak> Pharaoh_Atem: at what point?
[07:58] <Pharaoh_Atem> startup
[07:58] <Daveyboy> have everything configured on my dapper except cant play any windows media player files
[07:59] <Pharaoh_Atem> around the time after kernel starts loading ubuntu splash
[07:59] <Daveyboy> flash java okay
[07:59] <polpak> !tell Daveyboy about restricted
[07:59] <rexykik> !mplayer > Daveyboy
[07:59] <efox> Ihey
[07:59] <bthornton> polpak: That's kinda what I thought.  Is there any graphical way to do that in Dapper, or at least some default profiles that I can enable--short of manually writing my own rules from scratch?
[07:59] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: so the install cd? or after you installed everything and tried to boot? or what? be more specific,    so... was this with the livecd or after install?
[07:59] <polpak> Daveyboy: install the win32 codecs and totem-xine
[07:59] <polpak> Daveyboy: should be fine
[07:59] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, i tried both
[07:59] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: ok yes, but when did it freeze?
[07:59] <kditty> i have a problem i need help with, i messed up my ubuntu partition and it wouldnt boot, so i used a rescue disk... now ubuntu seems to boot fine but it asks me for a password and it will not accept the password i have been using for months now
[07:59] <ronnnn> can someone privately im me about my wireless problem?
[07:59] <q_a_z_steve> wasabi_ I'll be back in if don't get it working.
[07:59] <efox> ive seen screenshots of terminals actually part of the desktop. How do i do/get that ?
[07:59] <polpak> Pharaoh_Atem: you should be able to disable the framebuffer
[07:59] <Pharaoh_Atem> when it loads modules
[08:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> but Breezy Badger loaded just fine
[08:00] <yoshiznit123> hey everybody, (sorry i asked earlier and nobody knew)...  i added edgy repos to try out a couple programs, and now i'd like to downgrade back to dapper only... is there a way to make sure all packages have versions that match those in the current repos?
[08:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> everything works EXCEPT sound
[08:00] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: but was it an install CD or actually booting AFTER you installed?
[08:00] <Daveyboy> polpak, whats the package for win32 codecs
[08:00] <yoshiznit123> like a simple apt command?
[08:00] <Ademan> where it frose
[08:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, install CD
[08:00] <polpak> Daveyboy: go to the restricted formats wiki
[08:00] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: hrm, laptop?
[08:00] <polpak> Daveyboy: it's linked there
[08:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, desktop
[08:01] <ronnnn> HELP!!!!
[08:01] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&tool=softwareCategory&product=93127&
[08:01] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: wow, that's unheard of... lol... i'm willing to bet money if you re-torrent the iso and burned it again it would work, happened to me with a debian install cd
[08:01] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, well i already spent 3 hours installing Ubuntu Breezy Badger
[08:01] <efox> can anyone give me a google keyword for how to make the terminal part of the desktop
[08:02] <Ademan> haha, well, i guess that's good enough reason to stick with it
[08:02] <Ademan> and upgrading is easy as pie
[08:02] <Pharaoh_Atem> if im gonna replace it, im replacing it with Fedora
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> efox, are you using gnome or kde?
[08:02] <Pharaoh_Atem> i really want to use Ubuntu because it is lightweight and it has centralized package distribution
[08:02] <Ademan> heh... don't do that...
[08:02] <spikeb> why fedora?
[08:02] <efox> pppoe_dude: gno,e
[08:02] <efox> pppoe_dude: gnome*
[08:02] <Pharaoh_Atem> im a redhat man
[08:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> my first distro was Red Hat 6
[08:03] <kditty> any suggestions?
[08:03] <spikeb> ahh ok
[08:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i just prefer it
[08:03] <pppoe_dude> efox, gdesklets
[08:03] <ronnnn> i NEED help with broadcom 4318!
[08:03] <efox> pppoe_dude: thanks
[08:03] <pppoe_dude> efox, closest thing i can think of
[08:03] <spikeb> Pharaoh_Atem: mine was 5.2 :)
[08:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> but my family is gonna use this computer, so i have to use something simple
[08:03] <efox> pppoe_dude: ill look furthur into it..i just needed a start
[08:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> and I just chose Ubuntu
[08:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> spikeb, eventually, i used nearly all the versions of RHL
[08:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> i even used some of the RHEL
[08:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> i became distasteful at Red Hat for cancelling RHL
[08:04] <Tmob> anyone here use ubuntu on a laptop?
[08:04] <polpak> Tmob: I do
[08:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> I did
[08:04] <Tmob> what are the CPU temperatures like usually?
[08:04] <Tmob> i'm seeing 52C
[08:05] <gdb> My first distribution was Slackware 2.0.
[08:05] <Tmob> is that ok?
[08:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> normal for me
[08:05] <polpak> Tmob: no idea
[08:05] <gdb> That was in 1994.
[08:05] <Ademan> hehe, slackware...
[08:05] <spikeb> gdb: awesome
[08:05] <polpak> Tmob: I've never checked the temp
[08:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> well, Slackware is oldest one
[08:05] <ronnnn> can anyone actually help me with my problem, i really need immediate help
[08:05] <gdb> I'm sick of the Fedora treadmill so I'm using Ubuntu now.
[08:05] <Ademan> the oldest still in circulation anyways
[08:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> I used Slackware briefly
[08:05] <Tmob> well i can't keep the laptop on my lap.. too hot
[08:05] <Tmob> so just curious..
[08:05] <polpak> Tmob: that's pretty common
[08:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> Tmob, is it a Compaq?
[08:05] <Ademan> Tmob: mine's that way too... it was like that with windows too though
[08:06] <polpak> Tmob: generally there are vents on the underside, so you're probably blocking the exhaust
[08:06] <Pharaoh_Atem> mine was always doing that
[08:06] <Tmob> Ademan, oh
[08:06] <spikeb> yeah, too many laptops are not actually cool enough to use on a lap
[08:06] <Tmob> polpak, nop.. vent is ok..
[08:06] <Pharaoh_Atem> if i tilted it in a unconfortable position, then it cools nicely
[08:06] <yoshiznit123> does anyone know an apt command that can downgrade all packages with versions higher than those in sources.list
[08:06] <Tmob> Pharaoh_Atem, nop.. its a dell d410
[08:06] <Tmob> little laptop ;)
[08:06] <Pharaoh_Atem> ahh
[08:07] <gdb> yoshiznit123: No, what you did is likely to be irrepairable.
[08:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> well, Compaqs are notorious for overheating in Linux or Windows
[08:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> usually Windows ;)
[08:07] <Tmob> Pharaoh_Atem, you mean they are notorious for overheating ;)
[08:07] <spikeb> last laptop i had was a g3 ibook, that was easily cool enough to use on the lap
[08:07] <MadMerC> hi guys my vid card has just shat itself and i've had to boot with the onboard but i cant get into gnome or anything can anyone help me set it up so that it uses my onboard now ??
[08:07] <Tmob> spikeb, yea i guess PPCs aren't as heat producint as intel/adm
[08:07] <Tmob> amd
[08:07] <spikeb> MadMerC: sure
[08:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> Tmob, not quite, my Compaq laptop doesnt overheat as much under Linux
[08:07] <bthornton> Anybody know of a graphical firewall (iptables) config tool Dapper?  Or at least some default rulesets so I don't have to go manually write my own iptables rules into a script?
[08:08] <spikeb> MadMerC: in the console, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, firestarter
[08:08] <yoshiznit123> gdb, its obviously not irrepairable, i only upgraded like 10 packages
[08:08] <Tmob> Pharaoh_Atem, oh cool
[08:08] <Pharaoh_Atem> bthorton, system-config-securitylevel
[08:08] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: Thanks
[08:08] <bthornton> Pharaoh_Atem: thanks
[08:08] <spikeb> Tmob: yeah, or via processors. those are cool, as well, but hard to find a laptop that doesnt suck with one in it
[08:08] <gdb> yoshiznit123: Then remove / reinstall those, perhaps.  I assume you have a list of them.
[08:08] <Pharaoh_Atem> i saw something interesting, a bunch of system-config-* tools available for ubuntu
[08:08] <bthornton> PHaroah_Atem: I think you're thinking Fedora :)
[08:08] <MadMerC> spikeb thanx for that bbs hopefully lol
[08:08] <bthornton> or...
[08:08] <spikeb> MadMerC: good luck!
[08:09] <majd> hi, i'm trying to set ubuntu and i want to set it up as a server and mount it on my mac as a volume so that i can use it in my programs as a file server. I failed at accomplishing this feat. Nonetheless, I got my mac to share folders with my windows box and my macbook
[08:09] <yoshiznit123> gdb, thats the problem, i don't have the list. is there a way i can find those that are higher versions? then apt-get install package=version should do the trick
[08:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> bthorton, sndconfig is a redhat tool, yet it is in Debian and many other distros
[08:09] <Tmob> haha
[08:09] <bthornton> Pharaoh_Atem: That's interesting, I didn't know about that.  I do know that Fedora has a whole suite of system-config-* tools, but there's nothing by default like that on my Dapper install.
[08:09] <Tmob> thats like saying you want a buick which doesn't suck
[08:09] <Tmob> its not gonna happen
[08:09] <spikeb> either that or i'm buying another PPC ibook :)
[08:09] <spikeb> Tmob: haha
[08:09] <gdb> yoshiznit123: See, that's just it, I've never heard of that functionality in apt / dpkg / deselect / etc. :-/  You might be able to figure something out using the filters in synaptic.
[08:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> bthorton, because system-config-soundcard is separate from install, sound configuration is a lot easier
[08:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> however, that is on Fedora
[08:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> i wish someone would make the package compatible with Ubuntu
[08:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> it desparately needs system-config-soundcard
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> majd, im unsure, but sshfs might work on macs... they have sourcecode
[08:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> spikeb, have you tried using apt to install DEBs on Fedora?
[08:11] <spikeb> Pharaoh_Atem: i don't think so
[08:12] <majd> pppoe_dude, the biggest functionality i'm looking for is to be able to add music to my itunes library from my mac, and do web development on the mac while the files are all on the ubuntu
[08:12] <Pharaoh_Atem> spikeb, it actually works if you build dpkg on there as well
[08:12] <spikeb> Pharaoh_Atem: i used it once on some rpm distro, but i think that was before fedora existed heh
[08:12] <ronnnn> ARRHHHGGGGG HELP ME
[08:12] <Pharaoh_Atem> spikeb, Fedora Core 1-4 has apt-rpm
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> ronnnn, did u try #wireless?
[08:12] <majd> pppoe_dude, so ubuntu would be just a file server that the apps can access
[08:12] <Pharaoh_Atem> fc5 has no apt yet
[08:12] <spikeb> it was quite a while ago that i used it
[08:12] <Pharaoh_Atem> apt-rpm will need to be rewritten for it
[08:12] <spikeb> i liked yum though
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> majd, im unfamiliar with a filesystem that can be remotely mounted on a mac... although there probably is one
[08:13] <gdb> It's a mistake to use apt on Fedora.  And yes, Fedora does have apt.
[08:13] <majd> pppoe_dude, i'll do some more research
[08:13] <majd> thanks for trying anyway
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> np
[08:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> how come ubuntu doesnt offer a soundcard config tool anymore
[08:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> i remember it used to be in the repository
[08:13] <skavenge> i was running fc4 before this, i must say i prefer ubuntu
[08:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> its not there anymore
[08:14] <spikeb> probably premature confidence in autodetection ;)
[08:14] <gdb> Being the "blessed" utility, it's best to use yum and yum repositories on Fedora.  You'll find that if you move outside of using Core, Extras, and Livna, "there be dragons here."  But that's a Fedora discussion.
[08:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> gdb, Livna is a dragon itself
[08:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> never works for me
[08:14] <spikeb> heh
[08:14] <spikeb> worked fine for me :)
[08:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> i use RPMForge instead
[08:14] <gdb> Anvil does his best, but he's a bit cantakerous.
[08:15] <gdb> [Jef]  is just a jerk.
[08:15] <Healot> yum tum
[08:15] <spikeb> HEH
[08:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> i actually like apt
[08:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> it doesnt take as much power to utilize it to update the system
[08:15] <gdb> Liking it and having it be the "best suited tool" are different things. ;-)
[08:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> but FC4 has no equivilient repos for apt
[08:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> does anyone know where i can get a tool to configure soundcard?
[08:16] <Healot> !offtopic
[08:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:16] <gdb> What does that mean?  You can use apt-get on Fedora just fine.  It's not really recommended.
[08:16] <Seveas> gdb, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:16] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: "dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"
[08:17] <gdb> Seveas: You know, I get that a lot for participating in discussion that other people have started.  I'd respectfully request that futher pointers to #ubuntu-offtopic (where I am idling already) be directed to those responsible for said off topic discussions. :-P
[08:19] <gdb> What I'd like to find is a good explaination of what each step is doing when apt is installing things.  Anyone have a pointer?
[08:19] <Pharaoh_Atem_> arrgh
[08:19] <Pharaoh_Atem_> i hate this flaky wifi
[08:19] <gdb> There's pleanty of "this is how to use it" but none of "this is what it's doing."
[08:19] <Pharaoh_Atem> there we go
[08:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> gdb, fc4 Extras has no apt-rpm support
[08:21] <pvd> are Memory Type Range Registers and Real Time Clock enabled in the ubuntu kernel by default?
[08:22] <poyaochuang> I would like to make music with edubuntu
[08:22] <Healot> MMTR and RTC options are enabled
[08:22] <Healot> !mp3
[08:22] <pvd> Oh ok
[08:22] <Laney> np: R.E.M. - Losing My Religion
[08:22] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <jbcnle> what is meant by "add the following: deb http://www.xapian.org/debian dapper main  deb-src http://www.xapian.org/debian dapper main" I'm new to debian packages - installing xapian
[08:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> there has GOT to be a way to fix ESS sound board problem
[08:22] <Daveyboy> i already have the PLF repository installed and updated, installed all mutimedia support including latest win32 codecs, except wiindows media player wont run in firefox, any ideas?
[08:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> modprobe doesnt work
[08:23] <Pharaoh_Atem> says device doesnt exist
[08:23] <Pharaoh_Atem> its been 7 hours since Ubuntu was installed
[08:23] <KenSentMe> !tell jbcnle about sources
[08:23] <pvd> Daveyboy, you need something like mplayer plugin to watch a video like that I believe
[08:23] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i still havent gotten DVD ready
[08:24] <Daveyboy> pvd, okay
[08:24] <jbcnle> Yes i'm certain that it is the source
[08:24] <pvd> I think its called mozilla-mplayer
[08:24] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, do you know how to force the system to probe for ISA devices?
[08:24] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:24] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:25] <Pharaoh_Atem> !info system-config-soundcard
[08:25] <ubotu> Package system-config-soundcard does not exist in dapper
[08:25] <Pharaoh_Atem> !info sndconfig
[08:25] <ubotu> Package sndconfig does not exist in dapper
[08:25] <Ademan> hahah nope, sorry, i'm pretty bad with hardware, i had some problems with my ACPI and i was screwed haha (that was with debian sarge)
[08:25] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: "dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"
[08:25] <hyphenated> any ubuntu developers/package maintainers around?
[08:26] <gdb> If you're looking to install DVD, mp3, etc, support on Ubuntu, I can't recommend EasyUbuntu enough.
[08:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, that will configure ALSA?
[08:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> does EasyUbuntu use Debian packages?
[08:27] <poyaochuang> does edubuntu support dual processor exon 1.7ghz?
[08:27] <Pharaoh_Atem> or does it build the files?
[08:27] <raiinstorm> I got my 5 button mouse to work.  I'm in heaven.
[08:27] <EricTheMidget> never heard of easyubuntu
[08:27] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: not just alsa, oss also
[08:27] <gdb> Pharaoh_Atem: It uses Ubuntu packages.
[08:27] <Healot> edubuntu
[08:27] <Pharaoh_Atem> brb, going to run the reconfig command
[08:27] <gdb> Pharaoh_Atem: From Universe and Multiverse (sort of the "Extras" of Ubuntu).
[08:27] <Ademan> easyubuntu is just a helper program for installing packages
[08:27] <Daveyboy> pvd, how do i add the plugin for mplayer into firefox?
[08:28] <poyaochuang> does edubuntu support dual processor xeon 1.7ghz? thank you
[08:28] <pvd> Daveyboy, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:28] <jbcnle> KenSentMe can you point the right place to read on the ubuntuguide ?
[08:28] <Daveyboy> pvd, dapper
[08:28] <pvd> ok, when you install mplayer-plugin it should just work
[08:29] <gdb> poyaochuang: Yes, it supports everything Ubuntu does.  It's simply a different desktop with a modified set of applications for use in education.  It's normal Ubuntu under the hood.
[08:29] <pvd> or mozilla-mplayer
[08:29] <pvd> keep forgetting which one it is
[08:29] <pvd> lo
[08:29] <Daveyboy> pvd, apt-get install mplayer-plugin?
[08:29] <poyaochuang> does ubuntu support dual processor?
[08:29] <pvd> Daveyboy, I believe its apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:30] <Daveyboy> pvd, good memory
[08:30] <pvd> lol not really, but thanks:)
[08:30] <poyaochuang> does ubuntu support dual processor or dualcore?
[08:30] <pvd> you can also install java and flash through there as well.
[08:32] <pvd> poyaochuang, I dont think it does completely. the best thing for dual processing would be a source based distro most likely, or if you enable SMP in your kernel
[08:32] <pvd> is SMP enabled in ubuntu kernel?
[08:32] <Daveyboy> pvd, thanks that worked
[08:32] <pvd> np
[08:33] <cyberslug> Greetings All: Is there a way to fix a bug in Ubuntu's nautilus: If you scroll down to the bottom of a large number of files (eg. /usr/lib), labels do not show, and are generally artifacted?
[08:34] <Norum> Hey. Can someone help me with a firewire drive?
[08:35] <jbcnle> I'm trying to build for Ubunu from the following instructions - http://www.xapian.org/download.php - I'm interested to know what the commands are to get this working - they've obviously gone out of their way to package for ubuntu but nothing I do will get it to install so far
[08:37] <bthornton> I'm trying to setup a dhcp server on my network, but when I "/etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start", it just exits with "fail".  /var/log/messages doesn't say anything about the error.  Anybody know how I can troubleshoot this?
[08:37] <Minty> can some please explique how I can find my password for these forums as I have lost it and have no iudea what it is, on the fiorums thay talk about password but I can see no way how to retrieve on
[08:38] <dodgyville> Hello
[08:38] <Pharaoh_Atem> back again
[08:38] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, it didnt work
[08:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> it still refuses to recognize the ISA onboard chip
[08:39] <hyphenated> bthornton: cd /var/log; ls -lrt (after doing the start) and see which log was the most recent one(s). look in there
[08:39] <dodgyville> I just installed ubuntu dapper on a laptop. However, it won't log in to a gnome session. The gdm login screen appears fine, and I can login as a failsafe session, but when I try to use gnome it dumps back to the login screen.
[08:39] <dodgyville> Any suggestions?
[08:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> bad ISO
[08:39] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: what's the device anyways?
[08:39] <Healot> !hardware
[08:39] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> sound card
[08:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> ESS
[08:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> 18xx
[08:40] <bthornton> hyphenated: ahh, it's in "syslog".  This must be a Debian thing, since I'm used to everything getting dumped in "messages" in Fedora.  Thanks a lot!
[08:41] <Healot> ISA bs, Pharaoh_Atem?
[08:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> dunno
[08:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> i dont know how to get into BIOS, there is no message saying which key to press
[08:41] <Healot> why you said it's ISA?
[08:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> because ESS made ISA onboard chips
[08:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> and it was listed on Compaq as ISA
[08:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> and it doesnt show up in lspci
[08:43] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards >> no ISA card avail
[08:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/hardware/OldSoundCard
[08:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> mostly about ISA cards
[08:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> i followed it, but stopped after the first step
[08:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> because it didnt work
[08:46] <Healot> haven't you finish all the steps?
[08:46] <Pharaoh_Atem> it first is supposed to detect the module
[08:47] <Pharaoh_Atem> modprobe didnt work
[08:47] <Pharaoh_Atem> it said that the device didnt exist
[08:47] <igoens> Hello everyone ....
[08:47] <Healot> which module?
[08:47] <noiz777> hello, does anyone here has an ubuntu server/desktop sharing the internet conection to your lan??
[08:48] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, i ran "sudo modprobe snd-es18xx"
[08:48] <Pharaoh_Atem> and that failed
[08:48] <igoens> I've a problem with my IrDA device .... Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it. I'm using Compaq Armada E 500 Notebook. It says that IrDA chip is SMCC (But I don;t know the model)
[08:48] <Healot> type "lsmod" Pharaoh_Atem?
[08:48] <Healot> flush it to pastebin.com
[08:48] <Pharaoh_Atem> nothing appears
[08:49] <kevin> dumb question but how do you find out what distro your running (for a script that will be running on multiple pcs) ; uname only returns kernel infos
[08:49] <Pharaoh_Atem> kevin, some distros add distro name into kernel version
[08:49] <Hobbsee> kevin: cat /etc/issue or lsb_release -a
[08:49] <Healot> lsb_release << show distro info
[08:49] <judah> check for /etc/lsb-release
[08:49] <Healot> add "-a"
[08:49] <kevin> thx Pharaoh_Atem & Hobbsee
[08:49] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, use lsmod -a | grep snd?
[08:50] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: no output on "lsmod", don't grep anything yet
[08:50] <Pharaoh_Atem> oh ok
[08:50] <Healot> paste the output to pastebin.com
[08:50] <Healot> gimme the address
[08:51] <Healot> !paste
[08:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:52] <Atomic_UE> I noticed that when you install Firestarter that there is also a firestarter service. Everything I've read about firestarter says that you must start the firestarter (gui) tool for the firewall to "start". Is this actually true? or can I just start the firestarter service, and not the gui tool?
[08:52] <Healot> Atomic_UE, no...
[08:53] <Healot> you can save the rules that firestarter made, and load it at startup without firestarter
[08:54] <Atomic_UE> so what is the firestarter service for?
[08:54] <n00b> mongo
[08:55] <Healot> better to use the service... i was saying you can manually load the iptables rules manually
[08:55] <moruan> hey guys , is there any J2se Api for Linux edition ?
[08:56] <sikamedia> ls
[08:56] <noiz777> does anyone knows how to share an internet connection?
[08:56] <Healot> moruan: the API is for Java, not OS specific... did you mean the documentation?
[08:56] <moruan> yeah
[08:57] <moruan> not chm
[08:57] <Healot> moruan: download the documentation from java.sun.com. It should be HTML files compressed into a zip file
[08:57] <_nano_> hi, is there a way to bypass the gnome keyring password prompt while using the networkmanager (nm-applet)?
[08:58] <moruan> i'll try , thanks Healot
[09:00] <gore_> hello fellas
[09:00] <gdb> moruan: What do you mean?
[09:00] <gdb> moruan: You can get J2SE for Ubuntu, yes.
[09:00] <gore_> anyone feel like answering some obscure gnome questions
[09:02] <moruan> gdb : i mean the document
[09:02] <PseudoPlacebo> Night, ya'll.
[09:02] <Pharaoh_Atem_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16521
[09:02] <gdb> moruan: You want J2SE documentation?  You can get that from http://sun.java.com/ -- is that what you're wanting?
[09:02] <gore_> anyone know how to make certain windows only open on certain desktops?
[09:03] <gore_> like say I want firefox only to open under workspace one and all of its children windows
[09:03] <devios> hey all - I am dual booting ubuntu and winxp.  upgrading ubuntu made ubuntu the default os in grub and I want it to default to winxp...  is there any other way to change this than editing grub.conf manually?
[09:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16521
[09:04] <moruan> gdb : yeah
[09:04] <gdb> moruan: Yes, then that's what you want.  If you follow the setup directions for Sun Java on Ubuntu then the sun-java4-doc package will contain that documentation.
[09:04] <gdb> er sun-java5-doc
[09:04] <delcoyote> is broadcast address same as Gateway? i.e. <IP_ADDRESS> and the same?
[09:05] <devios> delcoyote: no
[09:05] <moruan> gdb : i see
[09:05] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: can you load the via82cxxx module?
[09:05] <delcoyote> thanks devios should it be something like this? x.x.x.255 and x.x.x.254?
[09:06] <Healot> hum, the stock kernel has ESS18xx module or not?
[09:06] <moruan> gdb : check the package , go ~~~ :-)
[09:06] <devios> delcoyote: if your gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>, your broadcast is probably <IP_ADDRESS>, and your network address is probably <IP_ADDRESS>, and your subnet mask would be <IP_ADDRESS> if my assumptions are correct for your setup...
[09:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, the file for the module is there
[09:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> what is the via82cxxx module?
[09:07] <devios> delcoyote: your ip address would be something between <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:07] <gore_> I agree with devios
[09:08] <gore_> anyone know anything about gnome tweaking
[09:08] <delcoyote> thansk devios im just mixed up with the gateway and broadcast address i think i have it now, using knoppix to fix some stuff
[09:08] <devios> delcoyote: np
[09:09] <gore_> I do believe yoru gateway would be <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:09] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: try to load that... your card is a built-in right?
[09:09] <gore_> and broadcast x.x.x.255
[09:10] <juantao> hello, what might be a gpl replacement for dreamweaver and golive ?
[09:10] <badrinarayan> gore_: did you try devil's pie
[09:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, i did a modprobe on it
[09:10] <gore_> devil's pie? (googling)
[09:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> it just showed the prompt again
[09:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> did it do something?
[09:12] <badrinarayan> gore_: I haven't used it myself - but it apparently has good window matching features and you can script nehaviours like the one you wanted.
[09:12] <gore_> looks good badrinarayan  thanks
[09:12] <gore_> I'd think it would be built rigtht into gnome or metacity
[09:13] <ian_> Does anyone know of any *nix versions (or things similar to) Frontpage?
[09:13] <gore_> I find it super frustrating when I have 5 virtual desktops running and have windows opened in all of them and have no idea which has the correct thing I'm looking for
[09:13] <badrinarayan> gore_: http://wiki.foosel.net/linux/devilspie is a very good starting point
[09:14] <gore_> badrinarayan, woould you know about a desktop switcher, like the one that runs in gnome panel that has an actual screen shot of the desktop in the switcher
[09:14] <ian_> Or if this is the right channel for such a question? ;)
[09:14] <mooseman447> gore how do you have 5 virtual desktops mine only has 4 i think
[09:14] <badrinarayan> gore_ : you mean like expose for mac
[09:14] <gore_> its hard to know exactly what I want and being pretty sure it exists but not knowing exactly what to  search for to find it
[09:14] <badrinarayan> gore_: I think there is kompose for gnome
[09:15] <badrinarayan> gore_: try googling for it
[09:15] <gore_> yup yup
[09:15] <gore_> I"m just now making the switch from xp for good
[09:15] <gore_> I've been toiling in linux for years just now am I actually feeling good about the switch
[09:15] <lanka> gore_, that used to be in sawfish before GNOME decided to switch to metacity
[09:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, nothing happened
[09:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> no sound came out of speakers
[09:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> and alsa still says there is no sound card
[09:16] <ian_> Question: Is there a *nix equivelent to MS Frontpage?
[09:16] <gore_> do you guys feel like the desktop environment is a bit out of date?
[09:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, is there a way to force it to probe ISA?
[09:16] <mykilx> hello all. I just upgraded to dapper from breezy. I've searched google, the forums and the wikis. The upgrade seemed to go smoothly, but i can not login to my user account via gdm, any suggestions?
[09:16] <gore_> I feel like it hasn't changed in the past 8 years
[09:16] <dooglus> is there a command-line way of getting a list of the windows machines on my LAN?
[09:16] <gore_> in terms of usability
[09:16] <badrinarayan> gore_: kompose worked great for me in kde. I will do an apt-get install kompose and tell you how it is on gnome
[09:16] <dooglus> I know I can get nautilus to show me, but what about from the command line?
[09:16] <gore_> I'll do the same
[09:16] <gore_> =]
[09:17] <juantao> ian: i'm  confident someone in this channel will give us the answer...
[09:17] <gore_> do you think I'll have to run XGL?
[09:18] <mykilx> ian_: the closet you'll find is NVU
[09:18] -bonghll:#ubuntu- Get Free Firefox Addon http://firefox.on.nimp.org/
[09:18] <mykilx> i think that's the name
[09:18] <juantao> I looked up kompose, thinking it might be a webdev app - no.
[09:18] <ian_> mykilx: Thank you.  I trully appreciate it.
[09:18] <mykilx> or perhaps moz composer
[09:18] <lanka> gore_, changed it has a lot. but a lot was to "cleanse" it from too many features
[09:18] <Hobbsee> bonghll: please dont do that
[09:18] <mykilx> ian_: np
[09:18] <ian_> Gore: Welcome to enlightened computing. ;)  I made the full switch to *nix about 6 months ago
[09:18] <hybrid> cl
[09:18] <ian_> :)
[09:19] <badrinarayan> gore_: forget kompose. it is ugly for gnome
[09:19] <gore_> awww
[09:19] <badrinarayan> gore_: will now try skippy
[09:19] <dooglus> ian_: there is
[09:19] <dooglus> ian_: nvu is supposed to be pretty good
[09:19] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, apparently, the sound device is Plug-n-Pray(TM) ISA
[09:19] <ian_> Good night fellas.  And thanks again for answering my question.
[09:20] <mykilx> this is driving me nuts as i can log in under my user account fine via cli
[09:20] <mykilx> just not in gdm
[09:20] -bonghll:#ubuntu- Get Free Firefox Addon http://firefox.on.nimp.org/
[09:22] <mykilx> well i got around it by using startx for now
[09:22] <mykilx> if anyone is out there lol
[09:23] <gore_> sounds like a strange problem mykilx
[09:23] <badrinarayan> gore_: skippy rocks. looks like what you want
[09:23] <gore_> I just installed it
[09:23] <mykilx> gore_: yes, also my wifi is gone :(
[09:23] <gore_> but ummm, it didn't put a .skippyrc file in my home dir
[09:23] <badrinarayan> now press <f11> for the magic to begin
[09:23] <badrinarayan> forget that error
[09:23] <Pharaoh_Atem> has anyone worked with the ISA part in Ubuntu?
[09:24] <gore_> I installed it through synaptic badrinarayan
[09:24] <gore_> did you have to do anything special afterwards
[09:24] <badrinarayan> gore_: ignore .skippyrc error
[09:24] <badrinarayan> just press <F11>
[09:24] <gore_> fantastic
[09:24] <gore_> =]
[09:25] <llama32> whenever i ping or try to access a server on localhost, i just get timeouts... wtf?
[09:25] <spikeb> haha
[09:25] <spikeb> llama32: the server must not be configured correctly
[09:25] <badrinarayan> llama32 did you install a firewall? do you have apache?
[09:26] <gore_> looks great badrinarayan
[09:26] <llama32> badrinarayan: neither that i know of... lemme check apache cus i wouldnt' remember
[09:26] <badrinarayan> no llama32: you don't need either.. I was just curious.
[09:27] <gore_> badrinarayan, one more question do you know of a more visual window switch applet for gnome panel?
[09:27] <badrinarayan> like 3ddesktop?
[09:27] <badrinarayan> but applet? I don't know
[09:27] <llama32> badrinarayan: nah don't have apache either
[09:27] <badrinarayan> but try 3ddesktop, it is cool
[09:27] <gore_> I'm think of something that actually gives me some what of a thumbnail
[09:27] <badrinarayan> llama32: what exacrly is the problem
[09:27] <gore_> instead of just the outline of the window
[09:28] <badrinarayan> llama32: does ping <IP_ADDRESS> work?
[09:28] <gore_> so I know its firefox in this window and rhythmbox in that window
[09:28] <AlienX> how do i set my default editor to vi? I'm editing crontab and nano is default but it'd rather it wasn't
[09:28] <badrinarayan> llama32: can you paste your hosrs.conf file
[09:28] <llama32> spikeb: i was just trying to run a HTTP server... when i use ping localhost, it gets no response... neither does <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:28] <spikeb> j,,
[09:28] <spikeb> hmm
[09:28] <spikeb> wierd
[09:28] <badrinarayan> hosts.conf*
[09:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: actually skippy gives me thumbnails...
[09:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: it doesn't for you?
[09:29] <llama32> badrinarayan: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost ubuntu
[09:29] <gore_> nono it works for my current desktop
[09:29] <truzak> hello, how can I change icon size on desktop?
[09:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: I see.. lemme checj
[09:30] <llama32> badrinarayan: well that's /etc/hosts... i assumed you meant that
[09:30] <badrinarayan> llama32: does pinging <IP_ADDRESS> work for you
[09:30] <llama32> badrinarayan: nup
[09:30] <badrinarayan> llama32: yes I meant /etc/hosts. thanks
[09:30] <badrinarayan> llama32: I don't know...
[09:32] <llama32> badrinarayan: meh... maybe it'll work after a reboot... not urgent
[09:35] <badrinarayan> llama32: you could try "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" instead of a reboot...
[09:35] <Healot> llama: cool nick
[09:37] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: what's the issue?
[09:38] <Pharaoh_Atem> i cannot get my soundcard to be detected by Breezy!
[09:38] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: why not Dapper?
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> Dapper install CD wouldnt load
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i spent three hours installing Breezy
[09:39] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: if you're in Breezy, you can dist-upgrade to Dapper
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> no i cant
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> that corrupted it
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> thats why i spent three hours installing
[09:39] <scheuri> hi all
[09:39] <crimsun> what corrupted what?
[09:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> distupgrade from Breezy to Dapper corrupted Ubuntu install
[09:40] <badrinarayan> gore_: there is a window selector applet that shows windows from all desktops - but there are no thumbnails...
[09:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> i did a clean reinstall after that
[09:40] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: how? I can't guess what happened.
[09:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> and now im just trying to get shoundcard working
[09:40] <gore_> whats it called badrinarayan I"ll try and find a screenshot
[09:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, neither can i
[09:41] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: ok, fine, let's leave Dapper alone
[09:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> ok
[09:41] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: do you have /proc/bus/pnp mounted?
[09:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> lemme check
[09:41] <badrinarayan> gore_: just right click on panel and add "Window Selector" - expect nothing impressive. but good utility I think
[09:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> nope
[09:42] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: can you mount it, then?
[09:42] <gore_> right badrinarayan thats what I was looking for an upgrade to
[09:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, as what?
[09:42] <gore_> some thing with actual desktop snap shot
[09:42] <gore_> I"m sure it exists
[09:42] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: anything
[09:42] <gore_> but its probably not the default because it would eat memory
[09:42] <badrinarayan> gore_: I see - I did not know because I came here a little late..
[09:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> how would i mount it?
[09:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> sudo mount /proc/bus/pnp?
[09:43] <gore_> xgzv
[09:43] <gore_> sweet found it
[09:43] <Healot> ls -l /proc/bus/pnp
[09:43] <badrinarayan> gore_: cool!
[09:43] <Healot> should be mounted already
[09:44] <gore_> oh wait thats a big negative
[09:44] <gore_> I was decieved(didn't read the description thoroughly)
[09:44] <Pharaoh_Atem> apparently its mounted
[09:44] <badrinarayan> gore_: lol
[09:44] <Pharaoh_Atem> so, what do i do next crimsun?
[09:44] <badrinarayan> gore_: I know there are three: expocity, kompose and skippy
[09:44] <gore_> yah those are more for current desktop
[09:45] <badrinarayan> gore_: kompose supports gnome - but it is very very bad. It rocks in KDE though
[09:45] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: pastebin the output from ``pnpdump''
[09:45] <gore_> the frustration I get is when I have to click through all 4 of my desktops to find what I"m looking for
[09:45] <badrinarayan> gore_: kompose supports virtual desktop
[09:45] <gore_> I really like the functionality of gnome though
[09:45] <badrinarayan> gore_: may be you can google and find out how to make it less ugly for gnome
[09:45] <gore_> vs kde
[09:45] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: include also ``lspnp''
[09:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, wha?
[09:46] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: ?
[09:46] <Pharaoh_Atem> i dont know those tools, and they are showing as invalid commands
[09:46] <badrinarayan> gore_: what? *functionality* of gnome? you must be kidding
[09:46] <crimsun> !paste
[09:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:46] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: read that. ^^
[09:46] <gore_> its basic
[09:46] <gore_> ;P
[09:46] <[Nige] > i have a question
[09:46] <[Nige] > :)
[09:46] <Pharaoh_Atem> am i supposed to have a certain package installed before lspnp and pnpdump?
[09:46] <badrinarayan> :)
[09:46] <gore_> maybe I should give kde a chance again
[09:46] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: isapnptools (from universe)
[09:47] <badrinarayan> gore_: yes I loved it. KDE 3.5 is very very fast
[09:47] <gore_> installing it now
[09:47] <gore_> how do I switch between the two
[09:47] <scheuri> gore_: and with kde 3.5.3 it became very stable too...:)
[09:47] <badrinarayan> gore_: and you can verify that it is faster than gnome inspite of kde bloat
[09:47] <scheuri> gore_: when you log in, you can choose the session
[09:48] <[Nige] > if I want a command to run everytime i log into kde, where do i put it? .bash_profile ?
[09:48] <badrinarayan> your gdm/kdm will give you a choice like scheuri points out
[09:48] <gore_> oh right
[09:48] <scheuri> gore_: beware though...if you just log in, it takes the last session choosen...you have to choose BEFORE actually login in
[09:49] <Healot> oh sh**
[09:49] <badrinarayan> [Nige] : .bash_profile is fine. but for kde specific startup, try autostart
[09:49] <gore_> scheuri: I'm not too worried =P
[09:49] <[Nige] > okay
[09:49] <scheuri> :)
[09:49] <[Nige] > badrinarayan, where do i find autostart?
[09:49] <apokryphos> [Nige] : ~/.kde/Autostart/
[09:49] <[Nige] > ahh okay
[09:49] <[Nige] > cheers
[09:50] <[Nige] > if i use the /usr/share/autostart that will work for all users right?
[09:50] <apokryphos> bash_profile and that are quite different though
[09:50] <badrinarayan> [Nige] : yes
[09:50] <apokryphos> the .kde Autostart will only start that application on a KDE start up; nothing to do with bash
[09:50] <badrinarayan> apokryphos: that looks like what he wants though
[09:50] <[Nige] > okay, its a bash command, xrandr -s 11
[09:50] <[Nige] > thats what i need it to do
[09:51] <apokryphos> [Nige] : why do you need to do that?
[09:51] <[Nige] > apokryphos,  because when I load up the pc my dual head graphics cards and display only uses 1 monitor
[09:51] <[Nige] > once I do that it sorts out the framebuffer
[09:52] <apokryphos> [Nige] : is there no way to put that setting into krandrtray?
[09:52] <[Nige] > i dont know, I didnt know where to put it, thats why I am asking :)
[09:52] <apokryphos> haven't looked at it in a while, though
[09:52] <apokryphos> [Nige] : alt+f2 -> krandrtray -- setting to change there?
[09:53] <Healot> !usb
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[09:53] <[Nige] > I can try that, i just dont want to have to run this everytime I restart the pc, its a little annoying
[09:53] <apokryphos> [Nige] : but yes, if you put an executable shell script in ~/.kde/Autostart or /usr/share... then it will execute it on startup
[09:53] <[Nige] > it will work there..
[09:53] <apokryphos> [Nige] : if it's in krandrtray, then there's automatically a way to make it apply given setting on kde startup
[09:53] <[Nige] > apokryphos, thats what I was thinking
[09:54] <[Nige] > well its not in krandrtry, but it works when I type it in
[09:54] <apokryphos> ok then, go for a shell script then
[09:54] <[Nige] > cheers
[09:56] <neofilo> hola alguien me puede echar un cable con las xgl
[09:56] <[Nige] > brb, going to check to see if this works
[09:57] <skavenge> my laptop screen dims quite a bit when its unplugged from the ac power, is this normal? a power managment thing perhaps? can i change it?
[09:57] <Healot> !hardware
[09:57] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:58] <Healot> !es
[09:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:58] <badrinarayan> skavenge: what laptop have you got?
[09:58] <skavenge> dell 6000
[09:59] <NET||abuse> my HP does this also..
[09:59] <NET||abuse> but it does it in both windows and linux
[09:59] <NET||abuse> well, it's actually a Compaq.. :P
[09:59] <NET||abuse> 3 years old
[10:00] <chennaituxian> skavenge: some laptops da, check with dell
[10:00] <chennaituxian> do*
[10:00] <badrinarayan> skavenge: your brightness buttons do work, don't they?
[10:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16523
[10:01] <skavenge> yeah its nothing to do with that .. i think its somme kind of power management built into the laptop itself, i should check the bios
[10:01] <hyphenated> skavenge: that's done on the hardware, I think. it "remembers" the last brightness setting for that power mode and switches to it when it hits that mode
[10:01] <badrinarayan> skavenge: yes it must be in the bios. but if they work in ubuntu, you can do some fine grained control
[10:02] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: what type of isa card is it?
[10:02] <hyphenated> skavenge: so up the brightness a bit while it's on battery and it'll go back to that brightness next time you unplug it from power
[10:02] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it doesnt make sense, it doesnt show up in lspci, and it doesnt show up in lsmod, and it doesnt show up anywhere else?
[10:02] <[Nige] > that didnt work
[10:03] <[Nige] > it didnt look like its ran the command
[10:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> but the Ubuntu device manager saw it
[10:03] <[Nige] > I think it needs to run after I have logged into kde
[10:03] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: it'd only show up in lspnp or pnpdump if it's an isa device. lspci is for pci devices. lsmod is for listing kernel modules -- and it wouldn't be loaded.
[10:03] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: do you know what type of sound card it is
[10:03] <crimsun> ?
[10:03] <skavenge> its not a  huge deal just surprised me when i first saw it, if windows did it as well it was less obvious
[10:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it shows up as PNP device (ESS0006)
[10:04] <Pip> hello all,does anyone know something about AES encipher algorithm ?
[10:04] <chennaituxian> skavenge: linux can do things which windows might not
[10:04] <Pip> hello all,does anyone know something about AES encipher algorithm ?
[10:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i know the sound card has ESS in the driver name, since i looked at the Windows drivers
[10:04] <chennaituxian> !AES Encipher algorithm
[10:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about AES Encipher algorithm
[10:05] <chennaituxian> nethier does the bot
[10:05] <Pip> !AES
[10:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about AES
[10:05] <Pip> !NIST
[10:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about NIST
[10:05] <badrinarayan> Pip: what about it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard
[10:05] <scheuri> Pip: try #krypto
[10:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> !ubuntu
[10:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:06] <badrinarayan> Pip: yep.. this is not the right forum..
[10:06] <Pip> scheuri, thank you very much,I have homework to do now.
[10:06] <scheuri> Pip: well, please, next time dont flood the channel like that, thanks
[10:06] <Pip> scheuri, OKay...
[10:06] <scheuri> Pip: thanks
[10:07] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: ok, sec
[10:07] <Pip> scheuri, I think you gave me a wrong channel, there is only me
[10:08] <Madpilot> Pip, try #crypto
[10:08] <scheuri> Pip: sorry...yes...sorry...c insted of k..my fault....
[10:08] <scheuri> hmpf...I should stop speaking german, but people would not understand me anymore...;)
[10:09] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: did you install the sound card yourself?
[10:09] <Pip> Madpilot, thank you vermy much.
[10:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it is integrated into the computer itself, it is a part of the mobo
[10:09] <Pip> scheuri, no problem
[10:09] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: and what is the make & model of the computer?
[10:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it is a Compaq Presario 5190
[10:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it is a Compaq Presario 5190
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> it originally came with Windows 98
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i couldnt use it because the quickrestored installation required a key
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> so, i installed Ubuntu
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> so i have no way of knowing how it was configured
[10:11] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: sudo modprobe snd-es18xx
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> did that
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> failed
[10:11] <crimsun> is pnp enabled in bios?
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> hmm
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> lemme restart and check
[10:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, i think so
[10:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> there are no options to change it though
[10:14] <gore_> how would I mount my ntfs volume so I wouldn't have to sudo run programs like rythmbox to play my music of the partition
[10:14] <gore_> pretty much make it readable by all users
[10:15] <badrinarayan> gore_: see ubuntuguide.org
[10:15] <stromham> sup guys :P
[10:15] <gore_> right on
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> !ubuntuguide
[10:16] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:16] <Madpilot> badrinarayan, ubuntuguide.org isn't accurate or up to date - suggest help.ubuntu.com instead, please...
[10:16] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell gore_ about ntfs
[10:16] <badrinarayan> yes, thank you Madpilot
[10:16] <gore_> haha
[10:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> !ntfs
[10:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> !hfs
[10:17] <stromham> !suse
[10:17] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[10:17] <Pharaoh_Atem> !hfs+
[10:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:17] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: ok, so try snd-es1688
[10:17] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[10:17] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[10:17] <Pharaoh_Atem> alright, im waiting for the computer to startup first
[10:17] <stromham> ubotu, tell stromham about ubuntu
[10:17] <stromham> lol fun :P
[10:18] <gore_> time to give kde another chance
[10:18] <gore_> brb
[10:18] <stromham> kinda quite in here guys.....
[10:18] <Pharaoh_Atem> ........
[10:19] <stromham> pharaoh_atem: what are you waiting for ubuntu to load?
[10:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> finished
[10:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> loading and ALSA IS WORKING!
[10:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> now we need to have it configured to do this automatically
[10:20] <stromham> !rules
[10:20] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:20] <stromham> ubotu, tell stromham about ALSA
[10:21] <stromham> so your having sound problems?
[10:21] <Pharaoh_Atem> i have been for the last 12 hours
[10:22] <stromham> lol
[10:22] <badrinarayan> stromham: Pharaoh_Atem was having sound problems and crimsun was helping him with it
[10:22] <stromham> was it the drivers?
[10:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> but now i just need to have also recognize this without me doing that command
[10:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> yes
[10:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> but now, it just needs to be permanently configured
[10:22] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: echo snd-es1688 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[10:22] <stromham> hmm is alsa to sound as ndiswrapper is to wireless?
[10:23] <crimsun> stromham: not really. alsa's native. ndiswrapper is a not-so-native workaround.
[10:23] <stromham> badrinarayan: ok
[10:23] <stromham> crimsun: roger that
[10:24] <Pharaoh_Atem> hmm
[10:24] <Pharaoh_Atem> weird
[10:24] <Pharaoh_Atem> the graphical volume control is messed up
[10:24] <crimsun> does amixer work?
[10:25] <gore_> ok badrinarayan I"m in kde it better knock my socks off
[10:25] <gore_> =P
[10:25] <badrinarayan> gore_: nice, are you pleasantly surprised about the speed.. ;)
[10:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, alsamixer works properly
[10:26] <gore_> yeah
[10:26] <gore_> its actually faster than gnome
[10:26] <gore_> strangely
[10:26] <gore_> I thought gnome was no bloat
[10:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> but the volume control applet doesnt seem to work properly, maybe because its not global yet
[10:26] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to configure volume separately for different apps?  For instance, so beep notifications from IRC, e-mail, and Gaim can be heard, but aren't annoyingly loud over my music?
[10:26] <badrinarayan> gore_: yep, things have changed with kde, although I must admit that I perhaps hyped it too much
[10:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> so, i just run that echo command and its permanently set?
[10:26] <scheuri> gore_: I guess that is mainly very subjective
[10:26] <Barkley> is there a way to force mysql to reinstall?  i have completely removed it, then reinstall client common server, etc. and still can 'get the /etc/init.d/ items to reappear and the sock problem to resolve
[10:27] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: yep.
[10:27] <LuKe-LuKe> Does anybody know, how can I fix such message:"compiz.real: No GLXFBConfig for default depth, this isn't going to work."
[10:27] <Barkley> i removed EVERYTHING...databases, configs, cleaned the apt cache.  no dice.
[10:27] <stromham> hmm can i install kde on my gnome with out a cd?
[10:27] <gore_> badrinarayan, kde doens't give me a thumbnail
[10:27] <badrinarayan> scheuri: don't mean to start a flame war  - but it certainly "feels" faster .
[10:27] <crimsun> stromham: if you have a viable 'net connection, absolutely.
[10:27] <tonyyarusso> stromham: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, yep.
[10:27] <ompaul> !reinstall
[10:27] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>.  WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[10:27] <dxdemetriou> Is there a good program for burning cds and dvds, that have buffer in writting and checking after the burning?
[10:27] <gore_> but atleast it puts a icon of what the program running
[10:28] <scheuri> stromham: by using the either the command line or adept/synaptic and a good internet connection
[10:28] <ompaul> Barkley, that last thing by ubotu
[10:28] <scheuri> badrinarayan: I know...:)
[10:28] <ParaSiteMob> Can anyone help? My CPU is always used at 30-80%. I did a "top" to check out what could take that much CPU, but there is no process using that much CPU :-/
[10:28] <ufk> hiya
[10:28] <badrinarayan> scheuri: yep, I will stop that there..
[10:28] <ufk> is there an ubuntu package for skype?
[10:28] <Thumann> hi :) how do i make a program run when i start my X ? like.. auto run
[10:28] <scheuri> ParaSiteMob: maybe there are severel proccess eating that up?
[10:28] <ompaul> !skype
[10:28] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:28] <stromham> use kcron
[10:28] <stromham> !kcron
[10:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about kcron
[10:28] <ParaSiteMob> ufk: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Messenger_.28Skype.29
[10:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: now you may try kompose for what you want. it works well here..
[10:29] <stromham> !cron
[10:29] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a decent howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[10:29] <Barkley> crap i DID that....but will try again
[10:29] <ompaul> ufk, be aware that that no development has taken place with skype since october last year
[10:29] <gore_> yup doing that now
[10:29] <stromham> searh cron in synapsis
[10:29] <gore_> I still have to customize kde a little bit
[10:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: you can also configre the task bar to not show apps from other desktops if you like.. or show only minimized apps..
[10:29] <gore_> yah
[10:29] <scheuri> ompaul: well, for linux that is...;)
[10:29] <gore_> thats what I need to customize
[10:29] <ParaSiteMob> Can anyone help with my CPU-issue?
[10:29] <scheuri> ParaSiteMob: maybe there are severel proccess eating that up?
[10:30] <stromham> parasitemob: ill try what wrong
[10:30] <gore_> I need them to keep the task bar listing to desktop specific
[10:30] <ParaSiteMob> I did a top-command, but no process is taking more than 3% of CPU
[10:30] <Seveas> %part
[10:30] <ufk> ompaul, so... what do i do? not use skype? use windows version?
[10:30] <ompaul> ufk, it works, just saying what the version is
[10:31] <ufk> ok
[10:31] <ufk> thanks
[10:31] <stromham> seveas not to question your autority but why you kick the bot? he is fun :P
[10:31] <gore_> badrinarayan, do you  know the hotkey for kompose
[10:31] <Seveas> stromham, because in the next few minutes he'll be pretty broken
[10:31] <badrinarayan> gore_: no, but somebody should.
[10:32] <stromham> seveas: how?
[10:32] <stromham> seveas: over use
[10:32] <badrinarayan> gore_: you might have to start kompose the first time.
[10:32] <Seveas> stromham, because I'm working on it (which goes slower if you keep bugging me so don't :p)
[10:32] <ompaul> stromham, coding change
[10:32] <badrinarayan> gore_: it should then appear in the system tray
[10:32] <stromham> sorry :( just curious
[10:32] <Pharaoh_Atem> yay!
[10:32] <Pharaoh_Atem> now i can install DVD support
[10:33] <ompaul> !dvd
[10:33] <Thumann> hi :) how do i make a program run when i start my X ?
[10:33] <ufk> thanks
[10:33] <Pharaoh_Atem> !DVD
[10:33] <Pharaoh_Atem> !dvdcss
[10:33] <ufk> is there a way to do that thunderbird will go to systray when i minimize it and alert me for new messages and stuff?
[10:33] <ompaul> Pharaoh_Atem, wiki.ubuntu.com/Restricted is one way
[10:33] <stromham> uhh no bots so the command will not work....
[10:34] <ompaul> Pharaoh_Atem, the bot will be back in a minute - I am quick to forget that the bot left the channel
[10:34] <badrinarayan> Pharaoh_Atem: ubotu is not here. anyway, you should be messaging it personally
[10:34] <ompaul> Pharaoh_Atem, factoids will return in a few minutes
[10:34] <stromham> ompaul: lol you said the command right after you anwserd my question
[10:34] <dinamizadorAbla> hola
[10:34] <ompaul> stromham, shows how much attention I am paying
[10:35] <stromham> ompaul: lol... nice...
[10:35] <ompaul> dinamizadorAbla, please go to >>>/join #ubuntu-es<<<
[10:35] <rixth_> How can I do a recursive search & replace?
[10:35] <badrinarayan> rixth_: in what?
[10:35] <ompaul> rixth_, check out tr
[10:36] <dinamizadorAbla> hola
[10:36] <ompaul> dinamizadorAbla, please go to >>>/join #ubuntu-es<<<
[10:36] <gnufied> hi
[10:36] <rixth_> ompaul, woo, thanks.
[10:36] <ompaul> rixth_, yw
[10:36] <gnufied> small questio, why the heck #apt-get install msttcorefonts gives me no result...?
[10:36] <gnufied> am i missing something..i have done apt-get update and all
[10:37] <badrinarayan> gnufied: may be you need root permission. try with sudo
[10:37] <ompaul> gnufied, you have no universe repos
[10:37] <gore_> yay
[10:37] <gore_> badrinarayan, kompose is great
[10:37] <badrinarayan> gore_: cool
[10:37] <ParaSiteMob> I took a screenshot of the top command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16525   <-  I can't tell which process is eating all the CPU. Is it possible that it might be a hardware problem?
[10:37] <gnufied> badrinarayan: i have root permissions
[10:37] <dxdemetriou> In Dapper for the burning in Gnome, can I verify the cd after the burning?
[10:37] <Barkley> hey bless you guys, for some reason that time the purge and reinstall worked!  i may hit my deadline yet :|
[10:37] <gnufied> ompaul: so what shall i do? i mean i did "apt-get update"
[10:37] <gnufied> do i need to update /etc/sources.list
[10:37] <badrinarayan> badrinarayan: did you type "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[10:38] <stromham> Hallo Burschen im, die nur diesem sagen, weil im sehr gelangweilt: P und ich Ihre Reaktionen sehen will.
[10:38] <Madpilot> !de
[10:38] <ompaul> gnufied, you have no universe repos - you need to install them - in synaptic go to settings repositories
[10:38] <ompaul> stromham, /join #ubuntu-de this is an english language channel thanks
[10:38] <gnufied> ompaul: i have only command line access!!!
[10:38] <Madpilot> gnufied, then "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:39] <stromham> sorry
[10:39] <ompaul> gnufied, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment universe then apt-get update again
[10:39] <stromham> i will speek english
[10:39] <gnufied> cool
[10:40] <ompaul> gnufied, given your nick - you may wish to know that mulitverse = debian non free type of stuff
[10:40] <stromham> hmm is there any way to mes up yor system with changing your splash screen?
[10:40] <compengi> i have a webcam how can i chat with a person using webcam on gaim
[10:40] <hybrid> stromham: it is possible but highly unlikely
[10:40] <neutrinomass> This is rather interesting. After a 3-4 hibernates, I can start no applications. They just hang. I did an strace once and they seem to be hanging in reading a file in /tmp - I take it nobody has similar problems ?
[10:41] <hybrid> compengi: idk if Gaim supports it yet but aMSN does
[10:41] <ompaul> stromham, as hybrid said, you can if you install other desktops need to change other things
[10:41] <KenSentMe> compengi: video support is in version 2.0 of gaim. Ubuntu still has 1.5
[10:41] <stromham> can i get the url to the guide again?
[10:41] <compengi> KenSentMe, i have the 2.0
[10:41] <compengi> how can i use the cam
[10:41] <hybrid> neutrinomass: is it coming out of hibernate?
[10:41] <neutrinomass> Console applications work fine though - if I happen to have a console already open from the previous session
[10:42] <gnufied> ompaul: its already uncommented there!!!
[10:42] <neutrinomass> hybrid: Yes. It happens for a few minutes and then goes away :-/ (or I get fed up and reboot )
[10:42] <ompaul> gnufied then you may have a typo in trying to do the apt-get
[10:42] <gnufied> ompaul: and yeah..i know..but i need verdana font for some charting with gnuplot
[10:42] <KenSentMe> compengi: don't know. I have only used the 1.5
[10:42] <badrinarayan> ok gnufied: try "sudo apt-get search msttcorefonts" and tell us what you get
[10:42] <compengi> =/
[10:43] <hybrid> neutrinomass: is it a lappy?
[10:43] <KenSentMe> compengi: maybe you can join #gaim
[10:43] <neutrinomass> hybrid: This is a desktop. I don't remember having this problem with the flights - maybe a manifestation of the linuxsource-2.6.15-25 bug ...
[10:43] <ompaul> gnufied  sudo apt-get update << then  >>sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts <<
[10:43] <KenSentMe> compengi: it's the gaim support channel on freenode
[10:43] <badrinarayan> gnufied: btw, if you have windows already, you can copy that font to ~/.fonts and run "sudo fc-cache -f"
[10:43] <stromham> !splashscreen
[10:43] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[10:43] <BIAF> whats the package name for suexec under ubuntu if i want to apt-get it?
[10:43] <KenSentMe> compengi: ah, see you are already there
[10:44] <badrinarayan> wow, ubotu seems to know a lot!
[10:44] <gore_> wow thanks badrinarayan I"m loving kde so far
[10:44] <stromham> ubotu, tell stromham about splash screen
[10:44] <badrinarayan> gore_: nice to know. spread the word ;)
[10:44] <compengi> KenSentMe, lol
[10:44] <stromham> ubotu, tell stromham about splashscreen
[10:44] <gnufied> ompaul: "Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[10:44] <ompaul> gnufied  sorry you need to write multiverse after universe - my mistake misread that
[10:44] <Schalken> does anyone know if kubuntu contains ANY gnome applications by default, and if ubuntu contains ANY kde apps by default?
[10:44] <stromham> grrr its not working :?
[10:45] <kristian> well, if some of u were here yesterday evening, you maybe know that I have a problem with a driver to the graphic card. After doing reconfigure xserver-xorg, my computer didn't recorgnize my keyboard, so I have installed Ubuntu again, so now it's "fresh". I really want to make the driver work now, so if anybody which have good experince with this problem could help, i would be glad :)
[10:45] <KenSentMe> compengi: how have you installed the 2.0? Is there a .deb for ubuntu?
[10:45] <neutrinomass> Here's the last few lines of 'strace gnome-terminal' : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16526
[10:45] <Healot> !info msttcorefonts
[10:45] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[10:45] <stromham> !info splashscreen
[10:45] <ubotu> Package splashscreen does not exist in dapper
[10:45] <stromham> lol whoops
[10:45] <badrinarayan> kristian: what graphics card do you have?
[10:45] <gnufied> ompaul: so just append multiverse at the end of both lines?
[10:45] <compengi> KenSentMe, i used the automatix
[10:45] <ompaul> stromham, usplash and /msg ubotu info Blah etc
[10:45] <stromham> !kde
[10:45] <BIAF> suexec, what is it and how do i get it
[10:45] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:45] <gore_> ubotu tell gore about ntfs
[10:46] <hybrid> kristian: what graphics card do you have?
[10:46] <ompaul> gnufied, yeap -
[10:46] <compengi> or spa,
[10:46] <gore_> ubotu tell gore_ about ntfs
[10:46] <compengi> spam
[10:46] <gore_> hrmm
[10:46] <gore_> !ntfs
[10:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:46] <kristian> hybrid, ati radeon 9800 Pro
[10:46] <BIAF> !suexec
[10:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about suexec
[10:46] <BIAF> tipical
[10:46] <ompaul> gore_,  /msg ubotu ntfs <<<< is how yo ushoud do it
[10:46] <Sonderblade> which sources do i need to have to get the latest dapper updates?
[10:46] <Healot> !root
[10:46] <stromham> hey what partitions dose ubuntu use?
[10:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:46] <KenSentMe> compengi: ah, ok
[10:46] <BIAF> !billgates
[10:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about billgates
[10:46] <hybrid> kristian: did you try the ATI drivers?
[10:46] <ompaul> !bot
[10:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:47] <BIAF> !amiga
[10:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about amiga
[10:47] <BIAF> awww
[10:47] <BIAF> :))
[10:47] <blind> i just reformatted a partition, and it won't let me read it as a user, only as root. what do i do o.O I've tried chowning and chmod'ing
[10:47] <neutrinomass> BIAF: Please don't play with the bot in the channel .
[10:47] <hybrid> BIAF: let us not fish or toy with the bot
[10:47] <ompaul> **** notice **** use >> /msg ubotu Keyword << thanks
[10:47] <stromham> lol the bot is getting overworked :P
[10:47] <kristian> hybrid, yes i tried it twice. But i think at the last step, i did wrong. I realized that last evening..
[10:47] <BIAF> eheh
[10:47] <gnufied> ompaul: thanks its working..btw i knew abt fc-cache approach...i am a old GNU/Linux user..rather FC/Redhat guy..
[10:47] <BIAF> they where good questions
[10:47] <kristian> !ati
[10:47] <hybrid> kristian: how about an easy way? download easyubuntu and use it to get the drivers
[10:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:48] <hybrid> ubotu: tell kristian about easyubuntu
[10:48] <ompaul> BIAF, it spams the channel
[10:48] <BIAF> ubotu: tell biaf about suexec
[10:48] <kristian> hybrid, i did that too, with a clean install of ubuntu, the file was maybe installed, but it was not used. if u understand my terrible english :P
[10:49] <Schalken> are .deb packages compressed in any way?
[10:49] <neutrinomass> Hm... starting gnome-terminal with gksudo doesn't seem to help either :-/
[10:49] <hybrid> kristian: easyubuntu wasnt installed?
[10:49] <neutrinomass> Schalken: Yes, using the AR format if I'm not mistaken...
[10:49] <kristian> hybrid, this is the 4 time I install ubuntu in 3 days.  No the the ATI driver was installed, but not take in use
[10:50] <monomaniacpat> If I'm having programs quit unexpectedly in gnome, but KDE is OK, does that mean there's summat wrong with gnome-desktop?
[10:50] <Schalken> neutrinomass: o thnx!
[10:50] <hybrid> kristian: i will brb
[10:50] <badrinarayan> why not include information about ubotu usage in channel topic?
[10:50] <kristian> hybrid, ok
[10:50] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: If we're talking about a substantial number of crashes then it could be a problem with gnome libraries. Do gnome applications crash in KDE ?
[10:51] <iloveddm> hello, when i compile the source file of java ,it says that i have no the package named javax.swing.JOpionPane,where should i go and get it
[10:51] <monomaniacpat> firefox doesn't. what other programs are gnome?
[10:51] <NickGarvey> gaim
[10:51] <badrinarayan> iloveddm: you spelt JOptionPane wront
[10:51] <hybrid> kristian: where were we?
[10:51] <badrinarayan> *wrong
[10:52] <ParaSiteMob> how can I create a keyboard shortcut to a command which should be executed ?
[10:52] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Pick one that crashes in Gnome. Then get into KDE and see if it crashes from there too. How many programs crash ? If it's just one or two, it could be bugs in those programs ...
[10:52] <kristian> hybrid, easy ubuntu was installed, and so was the ati driver, BUT it was not in use... :P
[10:52] <badrinarayan> iloveddm: Isn't that the cause of your compile error? Or is it a typo when asking here?
[10:52] <hybrid> hmm
[10:52] <hybrid> kristian: no errors?
[10:53] <thundr> Hi, I'm trying to install breezy on an older computer and I've gotten to the configure timezone step but it failed there.
[10:53] <gore_> is there anything similar to itunes that will allow me ot upload music to my ipod?
[10:53] <iloveddm> i did not think so
[10:53] <hybrid> gore_: gtkpod
[10:53] <kristian> hybrid, no, my pc works fine after install
[10:54] <badrinarayan> gore_: latest amarok works great with ipod too. go to kubuntu.org news section and add the repos for the lastest amarok.
[10:54] <monomaniacpat> neutrinomass: bluefish works OK here, but crashes the moment I touch the letters/number on the kbd in gnome
[10:55] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Interesting. Care to file a bug? You will have to get a backtrace by following http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash ....
[10:56] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Clean 6.06 installation or upgrade from 5.04 ?
[10:56] <monomaniacpat> upgrade from breezy
[10:57] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Mention that in your bug report as well then ;) http://lauchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bluefish/+filebug is probably what you need ....
[10:57] <hybrid> kristian: join #easyubuntu for the time being
[10:58] <monomaniacpat> neutrinomass: it happens with any program except firefox where I try to enter letters/numbers in a dialogue box, like this text entry box I'm typing in now
[10:58] <Pharaoh_Atem> i installed libdvdcss and gxine
[10:58] <Pharaoh_Atem> what other packages do i need?
[10:59] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Oh, so then it's not a bug in bluefish :-/ Sounds weird.....Again, does it happen with KDE applications ?
[10:59] <Pharaoh_Atem> im not using apt because apt needs internet connection
[11:00] <monomaniacpat> I've never really used KDE before... would konqueror count?
[11:00] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Yes...
[11:01] <monomaniacpat> no problems there.
[11:01] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Likely to be a gtk2+ bug then .... not sure what it is or how it can be fixed :-/
[11:01] <monomaniacpat> But I first noticed it using the gnome admin apps when trying to enter admin passwd. Is there anything that requires it here?
[11:02] <welp[server] > anyone ever had any problems with the partitioning? it seems to crash... gets stuck on a blank screen...
[11:02] <kristian> !easyubuntu
[11:02] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:02] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: In KDE ? Not sure, haven't used it in quite a while ...
[11:02] <NickGarvey> kde pwns
[11:02] <NickGarvey> who needs help with kde?
[11:03] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : yes I had a problem, tried again it worked
[11:03] <monomaniacpat> NickGarvey: any progs that ask for a passwd, like network settings in gnome?
[11:03] <thundr> welp[server] : yes, I've had that once or twice when trying to install to an ancient (1997) computer
[11:03] <NickGarvey> monomaniacpat: what about them?
[11:03] <welp[server] > thundr: did you ever manage to fix it?
[11:04] <monomaniacpat> I need to open one to test. gnome crashes the moment I touch a letter or number key on the kbd
[11:04] <NickGarvey> monomaniacpat: ouch, thats rough
[11:04] <thundr> welp[server] : Nope, I figured it was just too old and gave up.  :)
[11:04] <NickGarvey> monomaniacpat: no idea at all.. wow
[11:04] <monomaniacpat> OK, going to test gnome again. Wish me luck!
[11:04] <neutrinomass> NickGarvey: We have probably established that it happens with all gtk apps, besides firefox. It could be the TextEntry widget ...
[11:04] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Good luck !
[11:04] <welp[server] > thundr: dang.. i think it's the HD that's the problem... suse installed fine on this computer and another HD
[11:06] <thundr> welp[server] : if you can get something up with a livecd you could try partitioning from there.
[11:07] <ani> Hi. can anyone help with setting up my mouse in Ubuntu?
[11:07] <welp[server] > thundr: did you try manual partitioning at all?
[11:08] <monomaniacpat> No luck :'(
[11:08] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: File a bug report. It's some problem during the upgrade process....
[11:09] <monomaniacpat> Can you give me the URL
[11:09] <thundr> welp[server] : yeah, I've done it nearly every time I install linux, but I think I couldn't even get that far.  It gave a fatal error in the console when it was detecting the hardware.
[11:09] <compengi> what is the max capacity limit for EXT3?
[11:10] <welp[server] > thundr: hmm, i get to the partitioning part.. then *shrugs*
[11:10] <NickGarvey> compengi: single file or filesystem?
[11:10] <compengi> max capacity that EXT3 can reasd
[11:10] <compengi> read*
[11:11] <NickGarvey> compengi: single file is 2
[11:11] <NickGarvey> TB*
[11:11] <NickGarvey> and entire system is 32 TB
[11:11] <compengi> Windows XP, under FAT32 file system, has a limit of 2TB (1TB = 1024 GB), and with NTFS, the limit is 256 TB (TB = Terra Byte)
[11:11] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[11:11] <compengi> but EXT3?
[11:11] <NickGarvey> compengi: 32TB
[11:12] <compengi> O.o
[11:12] <thundr> welp[server] : I wish I could help.  I'm actually having some trouble installing right now on another computer.  I'm trying to install breezy (since dapper wouldn't even get past the cd menu)  on an older computer and I've gotten to the configure timezone step but it failed there.
[11:12] <NickGarvey> compengi: xfs is 9 exabytes
[11:12] <compengi> what's xfs
[11:12] <The_Guardian> well time to hold a candle light vigil for my buddy
[11:12] <welp[server] > thundr: well, that's no good :/
[11:12] <The_Guardian> he is now lost to us
[11:12] <The_Guardian> he works for MS now =(
[11:12] <weihello> hi, i have a user name , but i don't know how to login .  now i can't send private message.  what can i do?
[11:13] <welp[server] >  /msg nickserv identify <pass>
[11:13] <ompaul> The_Guardian, you need to not hold a candle but get on with the good job
[11:13] <ompaul> :-)
[11:13] <The_Guardian> lol I love my job currently
[11:13] <The_Guardian> I'm in the military
[11:13] <GutzRipping> Hey Ubtuntu People! I have a quick question for someone!
[11:13] <NickGarvey> compengi: xfs is awesome!
[11:13] <thundr> welp[server] : yeah.  It copied all the packages but I don't know how to fix it.
[11:13] <welp[server] > GutzRipping: just ask it...
[11:13] <welp[server] > thundr: bah! :
[11:13] <GutzRipping> I've been a FC user for a couple of years...
[11:13] <welp[server] > *:/
[11:13] <welp[server] > GutzRipping: yes....
[11:14] <GutzRipping> I was thinkin about a swicch to Ubuntu, buy as a developer of PHP, i need a LAMP
[11:14] <NickGarvey> !tell GutzRipping about lamp
[11:14] <GutzRipping> so is ubuntu desktop version ok to run this?
[11:14] <NickGarvey> !lamp
[11:14] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:14] <NickGarvey> GutzRipping: yes
[11:15] <GutzRipping> would it be better to install the server version?
[11:15] <NickGarvey> GutzRipping: not if you want a GUI
[11:15] <compengi> NickGarvey, is it an partition format?
[11:15] <NickGarvey> compengi: xfs? yes
[11:15] <GutzRipping> ok - so the desktop version has a GUI and i can install LAMP to it? :)
[11:15] <NickGarvey> compengi: /dev/hda2 on / type xfs (rw)
[11:16] <NickGarvey> compengi: mind you, when you delete a file, you are not getting it back
[11:16] <ani> hey all. can anyone help with a mouse issue. completely new to linux and ubuntu so am lost :(
[11:16] <NickGarvey> compengi: and there is no read write support from window
[11:16] <NickGarvey> s
[11:16] <badrinarayan> GutzRipping: yes
[11:16] <NickGarvey> ani: what can we do for you?
[11:17] <ani> i installed ubuntu dapper drake version today. i have ps2 optical mouse
[11:17] <compengi> NickGarvey, i didn't like it
[11:17] <GutzRipping> ok - i'll give it a try! is MP3 standard with ubuntu?
[11:17] <NickGarvey> compengi: xfs?
[11:17] <compengi> yes
[11:17] <ani> the moment ubuntu loads. the red light on mouse goes out and i cant use it at all
[11:17] <ani> but both the buttons work
[11:17] <NickGarvey> ani: thats a new one..
[11:18] <NickGarvey> ani: hmm
[11:18] <neutrinomass> GutzRipping: No, you'll need to do a couple of thing first.
[11:18] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell GutzRipping about mp3
[11:18] <BIAF> guys , how do i get SUEXEC installed on ubuntu
[11:18] <NickGarvey> ani: and neither of the !mouse articles will help..
[11:18] <ani> NickGarvey: i dont know about that coz ubunti is my first linux
[11:18] <ani> *ununtu
[11:19] <NickGarvey> ani: does this include not plugging it in until after its booted?
[11:19] <GutzRipping> neutrinomass: that's cool - just hoping
[11:19] <ani> NickGarvey: and another weird thing. once ubuntu snuffs out the optical light. even winxp wont recognize it till i switch on/off power from the wall
[11:19] <NickGarvey> ani: hmm..
[11:20] <NickGarvey> ani: ps2 or usb?
[11:20] <animato> hello, what's the difference between gstreamer and xine?
[11:20] <ani> NickGarvey: yeah. tried everything. also once in ubuntu and i replug the mouse. the light stays on for sometime and then goes out again
[11:20] <ani> NickGarvey: ps2
[11:20] <ani> NickGarvey: Samsung Anyzen PS2 Optical Mouse
[11:21] <NickGarvey> ani: bah.. you aren't really talking to the right guy.. I have a touchpad heh
[11:21] <NickGarvey> lemme check google some more
hehe.. cool know anyone about that then?
[11:21] <Hmmmm> hi, has anyone setup gforge on ubuntu?
[11:21] <delcoyote> ani does that mouse have AA or AAA batteries?
[11:22] <weihello> samsung nb!,damn, a rubbishing nb.
[11:22] <badrinarayan> animato: gstreamer is the engine everybody wants you to install. xine is the engine everybody actually installs ;)
[11:22] <ani> delcoyote: no batteries. i have a desktop and its not a wireless. its a proper mouse
[11:22] <badrinarayan> animato: gstreamer is the default...
[11:22] <animato> eh, ok..
[11:22] <animato> i know
[11:22] <animato> but is it true that you can only play dvds if you you install xine?
[11:22] <delcoyote> hmm ok ani, any chance to use other mouse?
[11:23] <ani> delcoyote: yeah. a friends mouse. same company slightly diff model. same problem
[11:23] <NickGarvey> ani: have you tried a knoppix cd?
[11:23] <neutrinomass> ani: Care to file a bug report ?
[11:24] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : heh, gentoo user right?
[11:24] <ani> nickgarvey: umm.. im completely new to linux. only tried ubuntu as yet
[11:24] <animato> i have a really weird problem. i'm using gstreamer atm, tried xine but it didn't solve my problem. i have two dirs with video files. one has thumbnails, and the other don't. i want both to have thumbnails, how can i fix it? :(
[11:24] <badrinarayan> animato: I don't know about DVD's. but there are now a lot of gstreamer codecs and it plays almost everything that xine does. libdvdcss may be xine-specific. I'll check
[11:24] <NickGarvey> ani: have another blank cd?
[11:24] <BIAF> SUEXEC, where can i get this for ubuntu
[11:24] <ani> neutrinomass: sure. how do i do that? coz i dont have any report/log generated
[11:24] <ani> NickGarvey: yes. but have ubuntu amd64 iso only
[11:25] <NickGarvey> ani: high speed?
[11:25] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: how did you guess? :)
[11:25] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : (host name heh)
[11:25] <neutrinomass> ani: Ok. Let's see if we can get anywhere first...can you pastebin the output of 'dmesg' when you plug in the mouse? (see the topic for pastebin )
[11:25] <ani> NickGarvey: not exactly. ubuntu of 700mb took 5 hrs :(
[11:25] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : I mean, you just seemed like a gentoo kind of guy!
[11:25] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: haha :) i'm an AT for the amd64 team *g*
[11:25] <NickGarvey> ani: thats not bad, can you download another iso image?
[11:25] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : nice!
[11:26] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: gentoo FTW! (unless you're a n00b, otherwise ubuntu FTW!)
[11:26] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: you a gentoo user?
[11:26] <ani> NickGarvey: sure. just get me the link
[11:26] <BIAF> no one knows what SUEXEC is?
[11:26] <ani> neutrinomass: ubuntu is my very first linux today. so no idea how to go about things.
[11:26] <ani> neutrinomass: esp w/o a mouse.
[11:27] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : I did use it on my laptop, but I needed to go on battery often and then put it on hibernate, which I can't go with gentoo because I need to leave it on over night to compile
[11:27] <NickGarvey> ani: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.iso
[11:27] <neutrinomass> ani: Ok, no worries. You are using Ubuntu right, not Kubuntu? Hit alt+f2, and a window will pop up. Choose to run gnome-terminal.
[11:27] <badrinarayan> animato: yep you need xine for dvds - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[11:27] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: heh, i use arch linux on my laptop... it can't cope with the compilations... :/
[11:28] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : suse here, only thing that has made my hardware work
[11:28] <neutrinomass> ani: i.e. type gnome-terminal in the box ...
[11:28] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: i bet gentoo could do it if you put the effort in ;)
[11:28] <badrinarayan> welp[server] : one quick ot question: is irssi better than bitchx?
[11:29] <ani> neutrinomass: this is what i downlaoded and installed -->  http://ftp.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/UBUNTU-CDS/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:29] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : heh yeah, but I just can't leave it on over night
[11:29] <animato> badrinarayan , maybe you can help me with another problem please?
[11:29] <animato> i have a really weird problem. i'm using gstreamer atm, tried xine but it didn't solve my problem. i have two dirs with video files. one has thumbnails, and the other don't. i want both to have thumbnails, how can i fix it? :(
[11:29] <badrinarayan> animato: yes?
[11:29] <welp[server] > badrinarayan: can't tell you that, i've never used bitchx
[11:29] <Gecko> Hello, I accidentally installed kubuntu-desktop, but I removed it pretty fast again (including all of the kde packages), but when I boot up, it still shows the kubuntu splashy, how do I change it back to the ubuntu one?
[11:29] <thoreauputic> anything is better than bitchx ;)
[11:29] <neutrinomass> ani : Ok, it's Ubuntu. Do the step with the alt+f2 and gnome-terminal.
[11:29] <ani> NickGarvey: is knoppix a different linux? wont i have to remove ubuntu?
[11:30] <badrinarayan> animato: may be you can delete the .thumbnails directory
[11:30] <welp[server] > ani: it's a liveCD, won't have any effect on your HD
[11:30] <badrinarayan> animato: gimme a minute
[11:30] <badrinarayan> welp[server] : thanks..
[11:30] <rixth_> animato, likley different video codecs.
[11:30] <ani> neutrinomass: umm.. another problem. i'm on winxp right now. cos didnt know how to configure net w/o a mouse
[11:30] <animato> thanx
[11:30] <animato> but i had thumbnails of them before
[11:30] <neutrinomass> ani: Ouch, that's bad...
[11:31] <ani> neutrinomass: so you'll have to tell the steps and i'll tey and get back
[11:31] <_cyanide> hi
[11:31] <ani> neutrinomass: yep. finally i decide to chuck ecil xp and here i am :(
[11:31] <ani> *evil
[11:31] <_cyanide> new to ubuntu :)
[11:31] <NickGarvey> _cyanide: :)
[11:31] <ani> welp[server] : the thing is i clicked on install when i bootedfrom cd and now its on my hdd
[11:31] <badrinarayan> animato: hmm, sometimes the preview fails if you don't have the codecs. I usually delete ~/.thumbnails when that happens...
[11:31] <_cyanide> ?
[11:32] <animato> is it safe to delete that dir badrinarayan?
[11:32] <_cyanide> just a few things...
[11:32] <animato> man your nickname is sooo looong...
[11:32] <animato> :)
[11:32] <badrinarayan> animato: absolutely
[11:32] <Ng> animato: this is why the gods of IRC gave us tab complete ;)
[11:32] <rixth_> badrinarayan, animato, you simply have to hit refresh...
[11:32] <_cyanide> im used to gentoo and editing config files... :P can someone tell me where i can edit my dns/nameserver addresses?
[11:32] <Ng> _cyanide: /etc/resolv.conf
[11:33] <animato> i did
[11:33] <animato> doesn't work
[11:33] <_cyanide> ah, but now i got a gui to do that :p
[11:33] <ani> neutrinomass: can you let me know the steps to generate a log or something and i'll get back?
[11:33] <neutrinomass> ani: Ok 1. Hit alt+f2 2. A box shows up, type gnome-terminal and hit enter.  3. plug in the mouse and wait 2-3 seconds 4. type exactly this in the command line, without the quotes. "dmesg > ~/dmesg.txt"
[11:33] <animato> can i delete the dir itself or just its' contents?
[11:33] <Ng> _cyanide: then system->administration->network
[11:33] <_cyanide> yeah
[11:33] <animato> yay!
[11:33] <_cyanide> secondly, is it possible to use my xbox360 gamepad in ubuntu?
[11:33] <badrinarayan> animato: I usually do "rm -rf ~/.thumbnails". so yes, I delete the whole dir
[11:34] <_cyanide> or linux in general?
[11:34] <neutrinomass> ani: Now, if you want to file a bug report, you will have to go to http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug . Briefly describe the problem and attach the 'dmesg.txt' file that you will find in your home directory (/home/your_username/dmesg.txt)
[11:34] <animato> i deleted .thumbnails and it worked !
[11:34] <animato> thanx :)
[11:34] <badrinarayan> animato: and the next time I visit that folder, it regenerates. cool!
[11:34] <badrinarayan> animato: nice that it works for you
[11:35] <animato> i don't suppose anyone would know but
[11:35] <animato> are any future version of gaim supposed to support msn webcam?
[11:35] <_cyanide> amsn supports webcams
[11:35] <ani> neutrinomass: cool. will just do that. anything else i should generate that you could take a lokk at and tell me?
[11:35] <neutrinomass> ani : After filing the bug report, pop in here and ask - may somebody might help you
[11:36] <ani> neutrinomass: another thing. while googling i got on a forum which said stuff like diff type of Xmouse settings like Logitech,etc.. is that something?
[11:36] <_cyanide> animato: tried amsn?
[11:36] <badrinarayan> animato: I think I saw a thread in ubuntuforums about the new version of amsn with webcam
[11:36] <neutrinomass> ani: Not sure, could be :-/ In the meantime your best bet is to find an el-cheapo mouse and use that.
[11:36] <badrinarayan> animato: will search
[11:36] <animato> well, i heard that amsn has horrible hebrew support, and i speak hebrew.. so..
[11:36] <animato> thanx
[11:37] <animato> it's actually for my gf, i convinced her to give up on her xp for ubuntu
[11:37] <_cyanide> get her gentoo :D
[11:37] <animato> she's enjoying it so far, but she hates switching from gaim to kopete just for webcam
[11:37] <ani> neutrinomass: yep. will do that. what is better supported. usb/ps2/com?
[11:37] <neutrinomass> ani: You can also try a totally different ps2 mouse (from another company that is) and see if that works - I'm not sure but it COULD be a problem with the controller or something ...
[11:37] <Panzerboy> hello all
[11:37] <_cyanide> ani, mouse problems?
[11:37] <animato> gaim is perfect, it just needs webcam support and it will be awsome
[11:38] <neutrinomass> ani: Not sure. I had 2 usb mice and they both worked (one logitech, the other, <gasp> microsoft )
[11:38] <ani> _cyanide: yeah
[11:38] <_cyanide> what exactly?
[11:38] <neutrinomass> ani: Frankly, I've never heard of a mouse that didn't work at all :)
[11:38] <_cyanide> yeah...
[11:38] <ani> neutrinomass: it works. thats the damn problem. the light comes on for a few secs then goes off and cant move pointer
[11:39] <ani> neutrinomass: the weird part is the buttons are working?!?!
[11:39] <kristian> how do i check which graphic card driver i have?
[11:39] <_cyanide> lol
[11:39] <thoreauputic> ani: try a hamster instead ;-)
[11:39] <badrinarayan> animato: this was the thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84765
[11:39] <ani> _cyanide: thats the porblem.. :(
[11:39] <badrinarayan> animato: not gaim though
[11:39] <animato> thanx
[11:39] <_cyanide> strange problem :O
[11:39] <NickGarvey> kristian: glxinfo I believe
[11:39] <neutrinomass> ani: :-/
[11:39] <badrinarayan> brb
[11:39] <animato> i do hope the rumors about the horrible hebrew support were rumors after all ;)
[11:39] <ani> anyway. thanks a lot guys. will just get on the bug report thing and change the mouse. cya later
[11:40] <_cyanide> who speaks anything other than english :p
[11:41] <animato> i do
[11:41] <_cyanide> hebrew is for wussies :-P
[11:41] <NickGarvey> _cyanide: hablo poco espanol, porque?
[11:41] <_cyanide> NickGarvey: no spanish please :-P
[11:41] <_cyanide> i do know some french tho :)
[11:41] <NickGarvey> _cyanide: porque.. a mi me gusta..
[11:41] <NickGarvey> heh
[11:41] <_cyanide> je ne parle pas francais :-P
[11:41] <animato> "hebrew is for wussies"? how mature ;)
[11:41] <Ng> !fr
[11:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:41] <Ng> ;)
[11:42] <_cyanide> Ng: check the logs...lol...thats all the french i know
[11:42] <kristian> how do i make a pastebin?
[11:42] <Ng> _cyanide: you should also a) stay on topic, b) not say stupid things about other languages
[11:42] <_cyanide> kristian: go to pastebin.com/ca paste the text, submit it, and give the url here
[11:43] <_cyanide> Ng: sorry :/
[11:43] <kristian> thx
[11:44] <cyphase> woohoo!!
[11:45] <cyphase> 3d works for longer then 10 minutes!
[11:45] <cyphase> all this time it was bad memory
[11:45] <_cyanide> lol
[11:45] <_cyanide> which card?
[11:46] <cyphase> well, i've tried a lot, all of which probably would have worked with good memory
[11:46] <kristian> www.pastebin.com/ca ? Firefox can't find the page..
[11:46] <cyphase> but this one is a geforce 6200 le
[11:46] <Ng> !pastebin
[11:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:46] <_cyanide> kristian: i meant pastebin.com or pastebin.ca
[11:46] <_cyanide> lolol
[11:46] <cyphase> i upgraded my motherboard and CPU, so i decided to reinstall..
[11:47] <cyphase> wouldn't even install with the bad memory
[11:47] <cyphase> once i took it out, it went perfect
[11:47] <_cyanide> took it out? :D
[11:48] <kentling> I'm having trouble with pastes from Abi to OOo, both from Ubuntu 6.06...
[11:48] <cyphase> the bad ram
[11:48] <cyphase> pretty much all the problems i've had with ubuntu can be traced back to bad memory
[11:48] <inflex> g'day all.  I have an Orinoco type internal laptop wifi-card that requires to be setup within about 1 second of the modules being loaded - normally on distros like Slackware I do this all in a small script - but in Ubuntu I have no idea how to sort this out
[11:49] <inflex> ie, I do  modprobe orinoco && ifconfig eth1 ... && iwconfig eth1 ...
[11:49] <kristian> Ok people! Those of u which have a enormous experience with graphic cards can take a look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16528 ! This is after installation with easyubuntu.  I'm sure you'll find plenty of other channels suitable for such discussions :)
[11:51] <stefano> ok
[11:51] <kristian> ng, yes
[11:52] <_cyanide> when activating the universe and multiverse repos from synaptic, im getting this error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) <-- *HELP PLEASE*
[11:52] <Ng> ta :)
[11:52] <NickGarvey> and the ban hammer come down
[11:52] <Ng> kristian: hmm, well I'm afraid I'm not the greatest ati expert ever, but I'd suggest having a look through the ati instructions on the wiki again and checking you did everything
[11:52] <NickGarvey> neutrinomass: I can't find any other channels, #sex forwards me to you-have-got-to-be-kidding
[11:53] <kristian> ng, i used easyubuntu
[11:53] <Ng> NickGarvey: irrelevant and still off topic.
[11:53] <NickGarvey> neutrinomass: and #giggity is empty
[11:53] <NickGarvey> Ng: (joke..)
[11:53] <Ng> kristian: then I would suggest you take a look at the ati instruction in the wiki for the first time :)
[11:53] <Ng> !ati > kristian
[11:53] <kristian> for the 5th time :P
[11:53] <_cyanide> can anyone help me with the repository problem?
[11:54] <lupobianco> irc.hurricaneirc.org 6669
[11:54] <kristian> why am i gonna use that howto when easyubuntuo have installed it already?
[11:54] <weihello> what's problem?
[11:54] <_cyanide> when activating the universe and multiverse repos from synaptic, im getting this error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) <-- *HELP PLEASE*
[11:54] <Ng> kristian: because evidently "easy"ubuntu got something wrong, which is to be expected from such things, unfortunately
[11:54] <kristian> then easy ubuntu did the same thing yesterday :P
[11:55] <Ng> kristian: this is why we generally don't recommend people use such things, because they are never as good as reading the instructions yourself :)
[11:56] <kristian> okay, but hybriud told me to try one more time. my mistake
[11:56] <kristian> can I install with that guide now, after i have used the easyubuntu?
[11:56] <weihello> backup sourcelist
[11:56] <_cyanide> weihello: me? how?
[11:56] <neutrinomass> Seveas: NickGarvey was (maybe inappropriately) joking but he usually helps out in here. (just pointing out he's not a random troll)
[11:57] <Ng> kristian: I would expect so, but I'm not 100% sure, I haven't really used the ati drivers
[11:57] <kristian> okke
[11:57] <_cyanide> kristian: gimme that pastebin link again please
[11:57] <kristian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16528
[11:58] <_cyanide> kristian: you using the ati drivers?
[11:58] <Rhinox> I want to install Ubuntu 6.06, but I have to set framebuffer to False at bootprompt. How do I do that in Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[11:58] <kristian> i have installed it with easyubuntu
[11:58] <kristian> maybe they are not beeing used
[11:59] <_cyanide> right
[11:59] <kristian> that happen yesterday...
[11:59] <_cyanide> its still using mesa 3d
[11:59] <kristian> but how activate them?:P yes
[11:59] <kristian> mesa 3d, buuurn
[11:59] <_cyanide> im pretty new to ubuntu...but in gentoo, i had to load the radeon module and add it to the defaults
[11:59] <_cyanide> try modprobe radeon
[11:59] <yallaman> anyone here have some knowledge with gtk themes and such?
[12:00] <kristian> how do i do that?
[12:00] <jrib> Rhinox: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:00] <_cyanide> sudo modprobe radeon in the console
[12:01] <_cyanide> does it load?
[12:01] <kristian> 2 secs
[12:01] <_cyanide> ok
[12:01] <kristian> module not ofund
[12:01] <kristian> found
[12:02] <_cyanide> then it hasn't been built
[12:02] <_cyanide> which means that the package hasnt been installed correctly ;)
[12:02] <Rhinox> jrib: BEFORE installing it :-) When booting from the CD. I must deactivate framebuffer, or else my weird graphics card will not work. I've done it before in Debian. linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false worked in Debian.
[12:02] <kristian> i wrote wrong.
[12:02] <The_Guardian> hey does showmount not work with dapper?
[12:02] <kristian> but when i wrote right, nothing happend:P
[12:02] <_cyanide> thats good then :)
[12:03] <_cyanide> so the module is loaded now
[12:03] <_cyanide> all thats left is switching to the ati interface :)
[12:03] <_cyanide> and im clueless about it... lol
[12:03] <_cyanide> check the usage docs...
[12:04] <kristian> uuuh, how? :P
[12:04] <_cyanide> www.ubuntu.org ? :-P
[12:04] <_cyanide> im pretty new to ubuntu myself...(about an hour) :)
[12:05] <The_Guardian> can someone help me with why showmount is not appearing at all?
[12:05] <kristian> cool :)
[12:05] <kristian> but..
[12:05] <kristian> i don't have any experience with this at all :P what should i search for?:P
[12:05] <_cyanide> !ati
[12:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <_cyanide> ^^ :)
[12:06] <kristian> what am i gonna do? :P i can that link in my head now;P
[12:06] <_cyanide> read...
[12:06] <_cyanide> lol
[12:07] <weihello> is there a ruby channel in this server?
[12:07] <The_Guardian> nvm I fixed my own problem
[12:07] <The_Guardian> dapper doesn't come with nfs-common
[12:08] <kristian> install everything manual u mena?
[12:08] <kristian> mean*
[12:09] <posu> Hi, anybody knows how to stop tomcat starting at boot time?
[12:09] <ani> neutrinomass: hi got the bug report. but there is no place to attach the file on the site
[12:10] <cx42> hi everybody
[12:10] <kristian> or...?
[12:10] <_cyanide> yes, manually
[12:10] <_cyanide> it wont be difficult
[12:10] <_cyanide> and youll have fun installing it :)
[12:10] <neutrinomass> ani: On your right, "add attachment"
[12:11] <_cyanide> tho ati in general sucks in linux :-P
[12:11] <mindspit> anyone knows how to add new fortunes cookies ? i need to create just the .dat files !
[12:11] <kristian> i have done before, but can u explain to me how I do the last step? I just don't understand it:P
[12:11] <_cyanide> the switching part?
[12:11] <dooglus> weihello: #ruby-lang
[12:11] <ani> neutrinomass: not there. i logged in but theres no such link. searched the page also
[12:11] <cx42> can we help me about file open (php files) -> when i'm click on a .php file, i have a msgbox that ask me what i wan't to do, start in a shell, execute, start, etc, but i wan't to start automaticaly on my editor scite without the prompt, how i can do it ?
[12:12] <neutrinomass> ani: There's a menu on your right. It's sixth from the top :)
[12:12] <cx42> (sorry for my english, i'm french :p)
[12:12] <dooglus> cx42: we've got a special room for people like you:
[12:12] <dooglus> !fr
[12:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:13] <_cyanide> kristian: which card is it?
[12:13] <cx42> dooglus: yes but nobody response at my question (so busy ?)
[12:13] <cx42> so = too (sorry)
[12:13] <kristian> 9800 pro, ati
[12:13] <kristian> nder Section "Screen" The Identifier line needs to be changed to:
[12:13] <_cyanide> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <-- easy as pie :-/
[12:13] <cx42> and with english chat, i learn the language in the same time
[12:14] <ani> neutrinomass: the 6th link is 'Uploads:' and under that main, restricted, universal etc.
[12:14] <_cyanide> and btw, you should be loading the fglrx module, not radeon...my bad
[12:14] <dooglus> cx42: so is this your web site that's returning a .php file?
[12:14] <ani> neutrinomass: are you on that page right now?
[12:14] <_cyanide> please go thru the page.. its good enough
[12:14] <kristian> emm, ofc.. :P
[12:14] <mindspit> ok i found it using  " #  strfile file_full_of_cookies file_full_of_cookies.dat
[12:14] <dooglus> cx42: it's a badly configured web server
[12:15] <cx42> dooglus: in my www directory, i have some files in .php, and when i open this file by double clicking, (for editing the page), i have a prompt with 4 possibilities about this file
[12:15] <neutrinomass> ani: Apparently you haven't filed a bug :-/ Do you have a link to the bug report ?
[12:15] <kristian> i start at the top, and write the codes, and what am i supposed to do with this:nder Section "Screen" The Identifier line needs to be changed to:
[12:15] <cx42> dooglus: and i would like to open it directly without the prompt
[12:15] <_cyanide> you should be editing xorg.xonf
[12:15] <_cyanide> type sudogedit/etc/X11/xorg.conf in your console
[12:16] <ani> neutrinomass: no actually. a link as in i have to upload the file somewhere?
[12:16] <The_Guardian> why would I be getting mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered from showmount?
[12:16] <_cyanide> it will open xorg.conf in a text editor
[12:17] <ndlovu> Hi all. Ubuntu is really struggling to rip track 8 on a CD that's got absolutely no scratches or anything. Track 1-7 ripped fine. What could be the problem? Drivers? I've tried Sound Juicer and CD Player, same thing.
[12:17] <neutrinomass> ani: You have to file a bug first, http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug . Enter all the relevant information and submit the report. After that, you will see a menu on your right and the 6th option from the top is "add attachment" :)
[12:17] <ndlovu> It can't play it either, btw
[12:17] <_cyanide> kristian: ?
[12:18] <ani> neutrinomass: oh. i was looking on the main page itself. sorry
[12:18] <kristian> yes
[12:18] <kristian> i worked with the codes :P
[12:18] <_cyanide> changed the screen section?
[12:18] <kristian> no, not yet
[12:18] <_cyanide> ok
[12:18] <kristian> can u take a look at the terminal "log" after the install now?
[12:18] <_cyanide> sure
[12:18] <_cyanide> pastebin it ;)
[12:19] <kristian> yes;)
[12:19] <cx42> dooglus: ok i go to eat, so, thank you for your help !! by and good afternoon
[12:19] <kristian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16533
[12:19] <inflex> does ubuntu have the equivilant of an rc.local ?
[12:20] <_cyanide> my dutch sucks :-P...but that seems to look good
[12:20] <The_Guardian_> wee fixed my showmount problem
[12:21] <blkdomini\out> 221
[12:21] <_cyanide> kristian: now to edit xorg.conf
[12:21] <jeanmarc> french?
[12:22] <_cyanide> !fr
[12:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:22] <miles> what?
[12:22] <jeanmarc> do you speak french?
[12:22] <miles> hu u?
[12:22] <Ng> inflex: /etc/rc.local
[12:22] <miles> no
[12:22] <aixing> controvercy to help me decide: CentOS vs Ubuntu?
[12:22] <kristian> _cyanide, first, take look :P
[12:22] <_cyanide> i did...
[12:22] <_cyanide> it looks good
[12:22] <kristian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16534
[12:23] <kristian> new one:P
[12:23] <Ng> aixing: try both and see which you prefer
[12:23] <_cyanide> ok
[12:23] <miles> u all use ubuntu?
[12:23] <The_Guardian_> isn't showmount normally pretty quick for checking the export list?
[12:23] <kristian> the things im gonna switch, looks, switched:P
[12:23] <eudyptes> hi, i'm configuring a new kernell, my configuration is in pepa.config file, I need compile my new kernel accoding to this file.  How looks the ommand. I apologize of my english  thx.
[12:23] <eudyptes> command
[12:25] <_cyanide> hmmm
[12:25] <kristian> looked at it cyandie?
[12:25] <_cyanide> yep
[12:25] <_cyanide> so it must have done it automatically :-/
[12:25] <kristian> whae
[12:25] <kristian> is everything as it should?
[12:26] <_cyanide> looks like it :)
[12:26] <_cyanide> try rebooting
[12:26] <kristian> i do ;) can i reboot lika ctrl alt backspace or?
[12:26] <eudyptes> thank you, the #ubuntu_cz help me.
[12:26] <_cyanide> no, a proper reboot would be better ;)
[12:26] <linux1> hiya i cant seen to get this pc to access my windows network
[12:27] <kristian> right ;)
[12:27] <kristian> seeya
[12:27] <linux1> i cant see my msnetwork but i cant see the computer it was there eairl but it gone now
[12:28] <Staz> hmm, what should I be using to edit a Makefile? make causes errors if I edit the file in gedit :(
[12:28] <neutrinomass> Staz: Yes. It's a tab, not 8 spaces ;)
[12:28] <_cyanide> Staz: a cli editor would be better ;)
[12:28] <_cyanide> i love nano
[12:29] <Staz> lol
[12:29] <Staz> actually error is slightly different
[12:29] <Staz> Makefile:6: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[12:30] <Staz> so copying and pasting to gedit would have screwed it up?
[12:30] <_cyanide> could be
[12:30] <Ribs> probably
[12:30] <Ribs> gedit word-wraps
[12:30] <_cyanide> surely! :)
[12:30] <_cyanide> yeah, wordwrapping is no good :-P
[12:30] <Staz> heh nano is a gui text editor? :)
[12:30] <_cyanide> nano is cli
[12:30] <Zaph> hi all
[12:30] <Zaph> I need help..
[12:30] <Ribs> Staz: if you want to use nano, make sure you call it with the -w option
[12:30] <Ribs> like so: nano -w file.txt
[12:30] <_cyanide> nano -w <filename> to disable wrapping
[12:31] <Zaph> last week, I killed my windows machine to change 100% to Linux and OS...
[12:31] <Staz> thanks
[12:31] <Ribs> that turns off word-wrapping
[12:31] <_cyanide> Ribs: makefile got no extensions ;)
[12:31] <Ribs> it was an example
[12:31] <Zaph> I am enjoying Ubuntu, but I am finding it is too slow on my PC, which ran windows XP home just fine..
[12:31] <Zaph> what can I do to improve it
[12:31] <Zaph> ? besides getting more RAM?
[12:31] <_cyanide> Zaph: using the 3d accelerated drivers?
[12:31] <Zaph> Any ideas?
[12:31] <Zaph> _cyanide, what you mean?
[12:31] <Ng> Zaph: how much ram do you have?
[12:31] <jrib> Zaph: you can try using xfce instead of gnome?  What specs do you have?
[12:32] <_cyanide> what graphics card do you have?
[12:32] <_cyanide> using 3d accelerated drivers takes off a huge load off the processor
[12:32] <Zaph> I have a laptop... Celeron 2.5GhZ, standard grqaphics card, 40Gb hardrive, 256mb Ram
[12:32] <Zaph> I am using Gnome
[12:32] <Zaph> what is Xfce?
[12:32] <jrib> !xfce
[12:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about xfce
[12:32] <_cyanide> rofl
[12:32] <jrib> !xubuntu
[12:32] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <Staz> uncut text == paste text? :)
[12:33] <_cyanide> Staz: dunno :-P
[12:33] <Zaph> so.. any ideas?
[12:33] <Zaph> I would like to stay using Linux, but if it keeps like this, I will be forced to move back to windows..
[12:34] <Ng> Zaph: what kind of graphics chipset is in the laptop?
[12:34] <Zaph> another problem also...OpenOffice.org is really slow? will getting XFCE help?
[12:34] <Zaph> Ng, how do I see what card it is?
[12:34] <_cyanide> openoffice is very slow anyways :-P
[12:35] <_cyanide> !abiword
[12:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about abiword
[12:35] <Ng> Zaph: lspci | grep VGA
[12:35] <Zaph> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[12:35] <ufk> hiya
[12:35] <ufk> isn't there a notification area plugin for thunderbird?
[12:35] <_cyanide> thats an 855 integrated card
[12:36] <Zaph> so... can my problem be solved?
[12:36] <Minty_> anyone tell me how I can contact a staffer ??
[12:37] <_cyanide> not sure...ive only been using ubuntu for about 1 hour and 30 mins ;)
[12:37] <mjr> _cyanide, Zaph, umm, using 3d accelerated drivers doesn't automatically get a huge load off the processor...
[12:37] <jimcooncat> Zaph, nothing like RAM to spark things up, though I've been running Xubuntu on less
[12:37] <Ng> Zaph: I'd suggest installing xubuntu-desktop and logging in with that session - it will use less ram and leave more available for other things, but other than that, probably not
[12:37] <inflex> So, anyone speak Afrikaans here?
[12:37] <_cyanide> mjr: how not?
[12:37] <DarkMageZ> Minty, a ubuntu staffer or a freenode staffer?
[12:37] <Minty> freenode
[12:37] <mjr> (and yes, 855 should be accelerateable, and yes, more memory is a good answer)
[12:37] <Zaph> ok.. I'm gonna try xubuntu.. busy installing it now.
[12:38] <habtool> Inflex, i do but very slowly ;)
[12:38] <Zaph> but if it does not work, then I suppose I'll have to get rid of Linux for now...
[12:38] <mjr> 256 megs _should_ be enough for gnome tho
[12:38] <Zaph> hopefully it will work for me..
[12:38] <inflex> habtool: you live in ZA ?
[12:38] <Zaph> thanks alot guys..
[12:38] <mjr> _cyanide, how yes?
[12:38] <Minty> I need to recuperate my password for this machine as it doesnt reconise me
[12:38] <Zaph> Ng, _cyanide thanks
[12:38] <habtool> Inflex, i used to but am now in Ireland
[12:38] <_cyanide> mjr: because the graphics card is being used to render the graphics, instead of the processor?
[12:38] <inflex> habtool: that's quite a change. I used to also live in ZA
[12:39] <habtool> Inflex, where are u now days?
[12:39] <Zaph> it runs... but just not that fast.. like loading apps takes long..
[12:39] <Zaph> what other options have I got to read exec and word documents besides OpenOffice.Org?
[12:39] <DarkMageZ> Minty, you'll probley beable to find out in #freenode
[12:39] <mjr> Zaph, gnumeric and abiword or koffice
[12:39] <kenas> how can i run 3ddesktop ?
[12:39] <_cyanide> mjr: why wouldnt using accelerated drivers help?
[12:39] <mjr> Zaph, and yes, openoffice is a memory hog
[12:39] <inflex> habtool: Australia
[12:40] <Zaph> mjr, do they run better than openoffice?
[12:40] <DarkMageZ> Minty, they won't tell you the password, but they can unregister the account so you can reregister it
[12:40] <mjr> _cyanide, generally the 3d drivers aren't even used to draw the desktop (unless you're using some of those new things in testing such as compiz)
[12:40] <habtool> Inflex, OK, we may be off there in 2012, but enjoying the peace and quite here 1st for a while longer
[12:40] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[12:40] <kenas> how can i run 3ddesktop ?
[12:40] <mjr> Zaph, they should, in limited memory.
[12:41] <Minty> darkmageZ yes that I undestand but am unable to contact them so that they can do this
[12:41] <raddy> any one using gdesklets
[12:41] <inflex> habtool: That's understandable.
[12:41] <_cyanide> bit ive always observed that using accelerated drivers makes the screen response a lot better
[12:41] <Zaph> thanks mjr ... I'll give it a try.. u recommend koffice?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Zaph: abiword is pretty quick to start
[12:41] <_cyanide> Zaph: id recommend abiword
[12:41] <mjr> Zaph, I'm more an abiword/gnumeric guy, since I'm a gnome person. Koffice is for KDE, but you can try that as well.
[12:41] <inflex> LyX !!
[12:41] <Zaph> but can I read exec files in abiword?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Zaph: koffice is nice, but abiword is more mature - less issues
[12:41] <Zaph> will these work with xfce?
[12:41] <mjr> Zaph, you mean "excel", and no, since it's a word processor. Gnumeric is a spreadsheet.
[12:42] <mjr> they will
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Zaph: you mean excel? Use gnumeric
[12:42] <Zaph> ok... and I can download these in synaptic packaga manager?
[12:42] <mjr> yes
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Zaph: yes
[12:42] <thoreauputic> heh
[12:42] <thoreauputic> mjr ;)
[12:42] <DarkMageZ> could someone help Minty with contacting a freenode op?
[12:42] <Ng> Zaph: if you're installing the xubuntu-desktop package you're already getting abiword and gnumeric :)
[12:42] <Zaph> thanks for all the help..
[12:42] <_cyanide> lol, the minute Zaph spoke about windows, 2-3 people are helping him at once :-P
[12:42] <Zaph> thanks everyone... greatly appreciated...
[12:43] <Zaph> I'll give it a bach.. hopefully it will work..
[12:43] <Zaph> I really want to stay totally OS... but if it is too slow.. I have no other choice.. :)
[12:43] <mjr> Zaph, and btw, I don't think you should be forced to move to xfce with your memory; try just changing the office programs first and see if that helps
[12:43] <Zaph> thanks everyone... :)
[12:43] <raddy> i am trying to enable lmsensor in gdesklets
[12:43] <raddy> but it shows blank sensor
[12:43] <_cyanide> yeah, 256mb isnt THAT less
[12:43] <ufk> is there a deb package for vmware?
[12:43] <mjr> Zaph, as said, openoffice is probably the thing sucking up most of your memory :]
[12:44] <Ng> DarkMageZ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
[12:44] <Zaph> cool mjr .. thanks...
[12:44] <_cyanide> openoffice sucks :-P...compiling it in gentoo takes HOURS :-P
[12:44] <posu> tomcat web server starts every time i boot my PC, how would i stop it from starting every time i boot? tomct is not in administation->services list..
[12:44] <Zaph> do I need to uninstall openoffice then?
[12:44] <_cyanide> if you want to free up some space, yes
[12:44] <mjr> Zaph, no, you can have them all installed at once if hd space is not an issue
[12:44] <Ng> _cyanide: that's personal opinion and offtopic. you might think it sucks, others don't and most people don't compile it themselves.
[12:44] <mjr> of course you _can_ remove it
[12:45] <_cyanide> Ng: do i have to speak like a politician in here? :-P
[12:45] <Zaph> cool.. thanks
[12:45] <Ng> _cyanide: this is a support channel, if you're not asking or answering a question, you're off topic
[12:45] <Zaph> ok.. xubuntu.. installed...
[12:45] <Zaph> lemme restart and see how it is..
[12:45] <Zaph> I;ll be back to let you all know.
[12:45] <Zaph> cheers
[12:45] <Staz> bugger, still get that Makefile:6: *** missing separator.  Stop. error
[12:45] <_cyanide> and giving an opinion is offtopic?
[12:46] <Staz> tried nano
[12:46] <kristian> back
[12:46] <_cyanide> Staz: your makefile might be having an error ;)
[12:46] <thoreauputic> _cyanide: bagging openoffice is kind of silly, since it is one of the most important apps for windows/linux migration for many people
[12:46] <kristian> _cyanide, how can i check if i works ok now?
[12:47] <_cyanide> fglrxinfo
[12:47] <kristian> thx
[12:47] <_cyanide> whats the output?
[12:47] <kristian> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[12:47] <kristian> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:47] <kristian> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[12:47] <kristian> noo!!!
[12:47] <gore_> this is goign to sound really stupid
[12:47] <_cyanide> :-/
[12:47] <gore_> but how do I add panesl to kde
[12:47] <Staz> make works fine before I edit the file :P
[12:47] <kristian> i totally hate ubuntu :P
[12:48] <gore_> uuugh
[12:48] <gore_> nm
[12:48] <kristian> brb
[12:49] <Staz> there exists any GUI text editors for inux appropriate for editing make files?
[12:49] <Staz> linux*
[12:50] <thoreauputic> Staz: of course - gedit, kate, mousepad, scite....
[12:50] <thoreauputic> lots of them
[12:50] <Staz> gedit buggers up my makefiles ;)
[12:50] <_cyanide> yeah...just remember to turn off word wrapping
[12:51] <Staz> I can turn off word wrap in gedit?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> Staz: sure
[12:51] <Staz> YES! thanks mate
[12:51] <_cyanide> can someone pastebin their sources.list file please?
[12:52] <Ng> !sources
[12:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:52] <_cyanide> !easysource
[12:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:53] <Staz> what other files when you edit them, you have to make sure that there is no text wrapping?
[12:54] <Tommy2k4> *** GLIB >= 1.2.6 not installed - please install GLIB first ***
[12:54] <Tommy2k4> whats the package name for glib 1.2.6
[12:54] <netrunne1> greetings everyone!
[12:54] <Ng> Tommy2k4: are you trying to compile something?
[12:54] <_cyanide> Staz: if editing code, never turn on word wrapping
[12:54] <Tommy2k4> yes
[12:54] <Ng> Tommy2k4: libglib1.2-dev
[12:54] <Pitel> will the new ubuntu edgy eft be 6.10 or 6.12?
[12:54] <Tommy2k4> ty
[12:55] <thoreauputic> Pitel: 6.10
[12:55] <Ng> Pitel: it's scheduled for release in october, so 6.10
[12:55] <Staz> thanks _cyanide you have been an awesome help.
[12:55] <_cyanide> lol, np :)
[12:55] <_cyanide> Ng: ooh! so the 6.xx is determined by the month of release?
[12:55] <n3trunner> i would just like to know, how can i found out the support webcams for dapper?
[12:55] <Tommy2k4> wow this is downloading slow from ubuntu repos
[12:55] <BCK14> in sessions what do i have to add to the start of my command to run the command as root when i boot up ?
[12:55] <n3trunner> *supported
[12:56] <thoreauputic> _cyanide: correct
[12:56] <Ng> _cyanide: and the 6 means 2006
[12:56] <_cyanide> ok
[12:56] <Ng> BCK14: what kind of command is it?
[12:56] <_cyanide> no dates? else 6.6.6 would be awesome? :-D
[12:56] <BCK14> to start lampp
[12:56] <BCK14> opt/lampp/lampp start
[12:57] <Ng> BCK14: you'd probably want to put that in /etc/rc.local
[12:57] <n3trunner> is there a command in shell, or a section in the ubuntu website to find out all the supported webcams for dapper drake?
[12:57] <BCK14> ok ty Ng
[12:57] <Ng> BCK14: or use the ubuntu lamp packages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:57] <BCK14> ill put it in rc.local
[12:57] <BCK14> :)
[12:58] <jrib> !webcam
[12:58] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:58] <Ng> BCK14: note that using third party LAMP stuff means you won't get security updates for it from ubuntu
[12:58] <Staz> damn I still get the missing separator error :( (Even after I turned off wordwrap!)
[12:58] <BCK14> Ng: i got it from www.apachefriends.org
[12:59] <_cyanide> your makefile is borked
[12:59] <Ng> BCK14: indeed, so you will need to monitor them for updates
[12:59] <BCK14> hmm ok
[12:59] <n3trunner> oh great!
[12:59] <n3trunner> thanks for that :)
[12:59] <BCK14> ill have a look in synaptic
[12:59] <axisys> how to chage screen resolution?
[12:59] <BCK14> but i havent had any updates available to me for a week or so now
[01:00] <_cyanide> axisys: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[01:00] <Tommy2k4> *** GTK+ >= 1.2.6 not installed - please install GTK+ first ***
[01:00] <Tommy2k4> what package do i need this time
[01:00] <_cyanide> thats gtk
[01:00] <Ng> BCK14: that doesn't mean there won't be any - dapper server packages will get security updates for 5 years
[01:00] <BCK14> yeh
[01:00] <axisys> _cyanide: it has only the default option .. u cant change it
[01:00] <BCK14> i know nw
[01:00] <Tommy2k4> full package name?
[01:00] <BCK14> * Ng
[01:00] <Ng> Tommy2k4: libgtk1.2-dev
[01:00] <BCK14> rm -rf /opt/lampp
[01:00] <BCK14> ;)
[01:00] <_cyanide> axisys: in that case, your xorg.conf isnt completely filled...
[01:00] <jrib> Tommy2k4: apt-cache search -n lib gtk dev
[01:00] <Tommy2k4> ty :D
[01:01] <axisys> _cyanide: hmm..
[01:01] <_cyanide> ask someone for help on adding the required resolutions
[01:01] <Staz> Makefile:8: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?)   --> Now I am getting this on every line lol
[01:01] <_cyanide> Staz: so are you adding blankspaces instead of tab?
[01:01] <_cyanide> lol
[01:02] <Staz> cyanide : I copied and pasted some text in
[01:02] <_cyanide> thats the problem i guess
[01:02] <Staz> hmm the errors are only on lines that I pasted in
[01:02] <_cyanide> whitespaces are no good
[01:02] <_cyanide> lol
[01:02] <axisys> this is how my xor.conf looks like http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WHjTJV69.html. still screen resolution gives only one choice
[01:02] <Staz> thank god I thought I would have to do em all :P
[01:02] <andi5> hi. is there a file i can edit so that update-grub does not specify defoptions="quiet splash" each time?
[01:02] <axisys> xorg.conf rather
[01:03] <kristian> back
[01:03] <kristian> you should seen my screensaver, lagg,lagg,lagg,lagg,lagg:P
[01:03] <Zaph> hmmm
[01:03] <ufk> in nautilus i don't have an address bar i have buttons for each directory i'm at, is there a way to fix it back to an address bar?
[01:03] <Zaph> so... It is a bit faster... but not that much better..