[02:25] <scott-upstairs> falktx, when you helped me the other day with -default-settings package, did you push anythign to bzr?
[02:26] <falktx> scott-upstairs: nope
[02:26] <scott-upstairs> can you tell me what change you made so i can add that after i fix my stupid merge mistake?
[02:27] <falktx> haha
[02:27] <falktx> scott-upstairs: debian/*.install
[02:27] <falktx> remove debian/tmp/ from them
[02:27] <falktx> so they become only
[02:27] <falktx> etc/
[02:27] <scott-upstairs> and i mean to tell you that it was a stupid mistake too
[02:27] <falktx> usr/
[02:27] <scott-upstairs> oh, that's easy
[02:27] <falktx> scott-upstairs: I think debian/control has an error in there too, not sure
[02:28] <scott-upstairs> yeah, both changelog and control had issues
[02:29] <scott-upstairs> mainly i would say it is my incomplete understanding of packaging, code, and bzr that is the root of it
[02:30] <scott-upstairs> falktx, do you remember specifically what the problem was in debian/control?
[02:30] <falktx> scott-upstairs: maintainer field, ":" character
[02:31] <scott-upstairs> falktx, also, can you tell me how i can get the source code for the 3.2.0-8.15 kernel instead of the 3.2.0-8.8 one from https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/lowlatency/+packages
[02:31] <scott-upstairs> falktx, thanks on mainteiner field
[02:32] <scott-upstairs> falktx, i added abogani's ppa and i've tried getting source but it's always the <IP_ADDRESS>.8 code
[02:33] <falktx> well, that's his source
[02:33] <scott-upstairs> but aren't they two different versions?  8.15 vs 8.8?
[02:35] <falktx> yeah
[02:35] <falktx> got the last one
[02:35] <falktx> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux_3.2.0.orig.tar.gz
[02:35] <falktx> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux_3.2.0-9.16.diff.gz
[02:35] <falktx> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux_3.2.0-9.16.dsc
[02:35] <falktx> 3.2.0-9.16
[02:36] <scott-upstairs> falktx, i just need to get alessio's latest version from his ppa so i can upload it to REVU to get it into the archives
[02:37] <scott-upstairs> every time i try to get the source it says it's getting the linux-meta-lowlatency one which is the wrong version
[02:37] <scott-upstairs> do i just need to wait until alessio is online to clear it up?
[02:40] <falktx> ah, you need to specify the correct package
[02:40] <falktx> apt-get source linux-image-3.2.0-8-lowlatency
[02:40] <falktx> scott-upstairs: ^is that what you need?
[02:45] <ScottL> falktx, i will try, super thanks, man!
[02:45] <ScottL> oh, falktx , hold on a minute
[02:46] <falktx> one minute counting
[02:46] <scott-upstairs> falktx, can you help with a ubiquity patch?  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-ubuntustudio-livedvd
[02:46] <scott-upstairs> we want to use this (ala edubuntu) to replace tasksel during install when we move to live dvd
[02:47] <scott-upstairs> no one really understands it at this point except stephane (with edubuntu), as far as i know
[02:47] <falktx> that can take a whilte
[02:47] <falktx> scott-upstairs: can you ping me up tomorrow? I'm in a rush to get some things done
[02:48] <scott-upstairs> falktx, not a big rush at this point, i will not be ready for a week at the soonest
[02:49] <scott-upstairs> falktx, and thanks for all you have already done :)  it's been a huge help
[02:50] <falktx> beh, it was literally nothing
[02:50] <scott-upstairs> i don't mean just in the past few days, you've helped quite a bit
[02:50] <scott-upstairs> and i just built -default-settings locally and will push the fix now
[02:52] <falktx> :)
[08:01] <abogani> scott-upstairs, ScottL: I have just updated -lowlatency and realtime kernels to 9.16
[13:26] <scott-work> thansk abogani :)
[13:26] <scott-work> i tried to upload the previous version to REVU but couldn't and REVU seems to be down currently, not sure about that though
[13:27] <scott-work> hopefully tonight i get the seeds modified for the theme-ui changes and the multi-head support as well, although i need to review my notes to make sure i'm not missing anything
[13:35] <astraljava> scott-work: I thought about starting to work on live-dvd. Wasn't it Colin who you talked with?
[13:35] <scott-work> aye, astraljava
[13:35] <scott-work> we still need to clarify which seeds are going to (created and) used though
[13:36] <astraljava> scott-work: But can't we start with one work flow first, and then add more later on?
[13:36] <scott-work> astraljava: colin said it would be about a day's work to get it done and my impression is that it would be a bit of back and forth with him to make it so
[13:37] <scott-work> astraljava: you are right
[13:37] <scott-work> i was hoping to get a bare minimum of stuff going first, but you are correct that it really is most likely unecessary
[13:37] <astraljava> scott-work: Ok. I'll ping him then to see when we could do that.
[13:38] <scott-work> astraljava:  previously he had mentioned that we need to get seed "blocks" to him, basically a flow chart of what we expect to use
[13:38] <astraljava> scott-work: Ok. Well let's see what comes out of the initial discussion.
[13:39] <scott-work> sounds good :)
[13:40] <scott-work> oh, colin also said he would be unavailable for a few weeks directly after january, so i am very glad that you are progressing this now :)
[13:41] <astraljava> I noticed that, and it is why I took it under construction first.
[14:53] <astraljava> scott-work: < cjwatson > astraljava: do you have a clear specification of how you want the resulting image to behave in terms of what  should be available in a live session and what should be available after installation?
[14:53] <astraljava> scott-work: How should I answer to this question?
[14:53] <holstein> falktx is in the house!
[14:53] <astraljava> Not in mine he isn't!
[14:53] <holstein> lol
[14:54] <holstein> astraljava: i think its going to fit on a DVD anyways, how about just installing most everything?
[14:54] <holstein> as far as default applications
[14:54] <holstein> i dont think theres a way to please everyone here
[14:54] <holstein> astraljava: OH... wasnt there a taskselect kind of thing in the GUI?
[14:54] <astraljava> holstein: I'm thinking the same, we should try to make the live session look as exactly the same as the installed product as possible, right?
[14:54] <holstein> from edubuntu?
[14:55] <astraljava> Yeah.
[14:55] <holstein> astraljava: i would like it to look and feel the same
[14:55] <holstein> astraljava: with the lowlatency kernel and all
[14:55] <astraljava> Yep. But should we somehow indicate which apps come with which work flow selecion?
[14:55] <holstein> astraljava: that would be nice
[14:55] <holstein> but its never been like that
[14:56] <holstein> i say, thats a great goal, but dont hold up anything for it
[14:56] <holstein> its always been a curses thing with no notes
[14:57] <astraljava> Right, maybe we just have a list of apps coming from work flow selection on the website somewherE?
[14:57] <astraljava> s/E/e/
[14:57] <kubotu> astraljava meant: "Right, maybe we just have a list of apps coming from work flow selection on the website somewhere?"
[14:59] <holstein> astraljava: i like that... and i think that list exists, and can be edited as needed
[14:59] <holstein> rather than putting something giant in the UI
[15:00] <astraljava> Yeah, sounds more feasible.
[15:19] <scott-work> astraljava: i would suggest looking at how xubuntu does the livedvd thing, you can find code in xubuntu-default-settings in /casper
[15:19] <scott-work> i think it will have information that can help us understand the scope
[15:20] <astraljava> scott-work: Sure.
[15:20] <scott-work> and i'm not above demonstrating my ignornace and asking cjwatson to explain his questions more :P
[15:21] <scott-work> oops, that wasn't it
[15:21] <scott-work> maybe live-cd in seeds then, checking
[15:22] <scott-work> astraljava: ship-live seed:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.precise/view/head:/ship-live
[15:22] <astraljava> He did elaborate, in fact, and said it would be good to have a list of apps which are to be included in the installed system, as some things are not needed that you have in live session (for example, the installer).
[15:22] <scott-work> doh!  astraljava and live:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.precise/view/head:/live
[15:23] <astraljava> scott-work: Ok, I believe I can work it out from all of these example seeds.
[15:23] <scott-work> astraljava: outstanding, thank you very much :)
[15:24] <astraljava> scott-work: No need to thank me. :) Thank you for the information!


[13:52] <DJones> Where is the best place to report a broken link at help.ubuntu.com?
[13:53] <jussi01> DJones: doesnt lp have a ubuntu web thing to report against?
[13:54] <DJones> jussi01: I'm not sure, I'll have a look, Thanks
[13:55] <erUSUL> DJones: i once reported on in #ubuntu-website... but it was for the www.ubuntu.com website
[13:57] <DJones> erUSUL: I'll try there, I suppose its possibly still appropriate as it might still be considered a subdomain of ubuntu.com
[19:33] <dresik> hi
[19:35] <dresik> who have igobot script
[19:41] <niko> define igobot
[20:14] <jpds> niko: #define *
[20:14] <niko> jpds: i'm not C devel :)
[20:16] <jpds> niko: You are NOW!
[20:16] <jpds> DJones: Which link?
[20:16]  * jpds actually looks at -website this time.
[20:16]  * niko segfault
[20:17] <alkisg> Hi, I'd like to request a freenode irc cloak: https://launchpad.net/~alkisg
[20:17] <erUSUL> alkisg: hi
[20:18] <alkisg> Hi erUSUL, I hope that now there's someone here who can help me :)
[20:18]  * erUSUL cresses fingers...
[20:18] <jpds> alkisg: Have you followed all the steps at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup ?
[20:18] <erUSUL> jussi01: elky    *PING* ^ ^ Cloak needed
[20:18] <alkisg> jpds: to the best of my knowledge, yes :)
[20:24] <nalioth> erUSUL: don't forget Pici
[20:25] <erUSUL> nalioth: ok; ok i know that changed recently maybe we can make a factoid with the persons"who can" ?
[20:27] <nalioth> alkisg: you don't have to wait.  the cloak will be applied when a group contact sees the request  :)
[20:27] <alkisg> nalioth: thank you.
[20:31] <alkisg> Done, thanks all :)
[22:41] <MTecknology> never fear, for I am here
[22:42] <MTecknology> ^wrong channel - fyi
[23:04] <elky> nalioth, please cloak alkisg
[23:05] <nalioth> elky: done


[05:35] <karstensrage> i cant thank you guys enough for the backports
[05:35] <karstensrage> thank you micahg and Laney
[05:35] <karstensrage> and you too teward
[05:38] <Unit193> Oh you finally got it in?
[05:50] <karstensrage> yeah
[05:50] <karstensrage> Laney did it
[05:51] <Unit193> Congrats.
[05:51] <karstensrage> thank you :)
[05:56] <karstensrage> i really wish it wasnt so unbalanced, its a huge problem i understand but im super appreciative
[05:56] <karstensrage> id even send beer or donuts to someone in thanks :)
[05:57] <Unit193> Problem is very few: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-backporters/+members (and don't think they're all active either.)
[06:10] <karstensrage> Yeah definitely not
[11:51] <teward> I'd offer to do stuff for Backports, but I'm quite happy just sticking to nginx and a few other packages as triage overwatch, thanks :P
[11:51] <teward> karstensrage: glad to see it finally got looked at.  (Patience *does* pay off)


[04:50] <derek[] > Hi AndyFitz
[04:51] <AndyFitz> g'day derek[]
[04:51] <derek[] > What are you working on?
[04:54] <derek[] > AndyFitz, have you ever used a graphic-tablet on linux?
[04:55] <AndyFitz> derek,  yep my 17" wacom intuous used to get alot of work back when I thought I could draw.  now I'm just as happy to use a mouse  ;-
[04:56] <AndyFitz> );-)
[04:56] <derek[] > :)
[04:56] <derek[] > I see
[04:56] <derek[] > Do you use blender?
[04:56] <AndyFitz> that said  inkscapes calligraphy tablet support is rockin
[04:57] <AndyFitz> derek,  no  I prefer to model with wings3d.  I rarely need to do 3d stuff however did a fair bit of 3d  in an animation scholarship I did 4 years back  ( blender can't read models from my *.max files
[04:58] <AndyFitz> blender looks rocking but all I do with it is play with the monkey, subsurfacing and rendering lights
[04:58] <derek[] > Check this out: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/wireless/2003/01/16/tablet_pc.html
[04:58] <AndyFitz> the modelling is a bit annoying  and everyone has different modelling styles  so I prefer wings3d
[05:01] <derek[] > thanks for wings3d


[16:48] <tjaalton> bryceh: hmm, check out the intel bug reports.. think maybe the xdiagnose update caused it to report GPU lockup bugs?
[16:49] <tjaalton> or was the latest upload meant to fix that?-)
[22:42] <bryceh> tjaalton, the upload fixed exec permissions on a bunch of scripts including that one
[23:58] <Sarvatt> cnd: safe to say your synaptics fix for the 11 finger issue fixed my macbook air, over a week of closing the lid again and its not crashing X
[23:59] <Sarvatt> cnd: thank you so freaking much for fixing that :)


[00:44] <IdleOne> !lmgtfy > bindir
[04:05] <IdleOne> !guidelines > AlexWebr
[11:55] <ikonia> hello shvelo
[11:55] <shvelo> ikonia, hello
[11:55] <ikonia> how can we help you today ?
[11:55] <shvelo> I wanted to register #ubuntu-ge but it seems to be registered to freenode-staff
[11:56] <ikonia> yes, it's already registered
[11:56] <ikonia> so you don't need to register it
[11:57] <ikonia> it's got an ubuntu log bot in there
[11:59] <shvelo> ok
[12:00] <shvelo> thanks
[12:00] <ikonia> no problem
[12:00] <shvelo> who is the OP?
[12:01] <ikonia> currently no ops
[12:01] <ikonia> I guess because it's not active
[12:01] <ikonia> it's a loco channel I think
[12:01] <ikonia> (unless you think it's someting else)
[12:01] <DJones> Looks like its the Ubuntu Georgian loco looking at the !ge factoid
[12:02] <ikonia> there we go
[12:03] <shvelo> yea but I Ubuntu Georgia didn't have any Wiki page or Launchpad team, I've just created them
[12:03] <shvelo> I didn't know if it existed
[12:03] <AlanBell> all the iso country codes were registered
[12:03] <shvelo> ah
[12:03] <shvelo> can I claim it?
[12:04] <ikonia> do you need to ?
[12:04] <ikonia> are you part of the loco ?
[12:04] <ikonia> have you started a loco ?
[12:04] <shvelo> I'm starting it
[12:04] <ikonia> ok, so the channel is registerd
[12:04] <ikonia> what's the issue ?
[12:04] <ikonia> make the loco, start using the channel
[12:04] <shvelo> ok
[12:06] <AlanBell> staff can UbuntuIrcCouncil have founder to #ubuntu-ge please
[12:14] <Tm_T> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gruusia
[12:32] <shvelo> anything new? I was off
[12:32] <elky> no
[12:35] <ikonia> is there anything more you actually need or want from us ?
[12:35] <shvelo> no
[12:35] <ikonia> ok, so what "new" information are you looking for ?
[12:36] <ikonia> (or expecting)
[12:36] <shvelo> just asking
[12:36] <ikonia> ok, so you have everything you need, you want no more information, that should be it ?
[12:37] <shvelo> yea
[12:37] <ikonia> ok, so good luck setting up the loco, there is a good page on the wiki that details how to do it, along with loco setup support information
[12:38] <shvelo> thanks
[12:38] <shvelo> bye
[13:05] <Tm_T> @mark #ubuntu-server FauxFaux ragequit with bad language
[13:06] <Tm_T> ubottu: ping
[14:08] <Pici> I'm *this* close to muting phix
[14:08] <ikonia> I'm closer to just ban him
[14:09] <ikonia> he's always like this
[14:09] <ikonia> it's not the first time
[14:13] <phix> IdleOne: .....
[14:13] <phix> ikonia: even
[14:14] <ikonia> phix: come back another time - I'm not interested in discussing this now
[14:14] <phix> I dont want to discuss anything, just unban me
[14:14] <phix> I was providing support
[14:14] <ikonia> no
[14:14] <ikonia> we'll discuss in 24 hours
[14:15] <Pici> You've had more than enough warnings to stop with the misinformation, take a break.
[14:15] <phix> mis information?
[14:15] <phix> I admitted I was wrong with skype not being supported
[14:15] <phix> but saying that asterisk is a better solution is not missinformation
[14:15] <phix> it is correct
[14:15] <Pici> phix: they are for different things.
[14:16] <phix> you can get a skype plugin for asterisk if you really need skype support
[14:16] <phix> they are not though
[14:16] <Pici> A USER who wants skype does not want asterisk
[14:16] <phix> they are for talking and video conferencing
[14:16] <phix> A USER who thinks they want skype actually needs asterisk
[14:16] <phix> any way
[14:16] <Pici> No.
[14:16] <phix> I didnt come here to argue that point
[14:17] <Pici> Well, you're not getting unbanned right now.
[14:17] <phix> I came here to ask if I can continue to help support ubuntu users with my knowledge
[14:17] <phix> ok, if you want to deprive your support channel of a helper that's fine with me
[14:17] <ikonia> great
[14:17] <ikonia> bye
[14:18] <phix> cya
[14:18] <ikonia>  please /part the channel
[14:19] <phix> oh
[14:19] <ikonia> thanks
[14:19] <phix> I was just waiting 24hrs til I am allowed back in
[14:19] <ikonia>  /part and come back in 24 hours and we can discuss it then
[14:19] <phix> hmmmm
[14:19] <phix> ok
[14:19] <phix> bye
[14:20] <ikonia> bye
[14:20] <Pici> @mark phix #ubuntu-ops
[15:07] <usr13_> bazhang: Are you here?
[15:08] <IdleOne> How can I help you usr13_ ?
[15:08] <usr13_> IdleOne: I would like to discuss with you the term "shell"
[15:08] <usr13_> Please define what might be your definition.
[15:09] <IdleOne> This channel is for resolution of bans primarily in #ubuntu
[15:09] <IdleOne> You might try asking in ##linux what the definition of "shell" is.
[15:09] <usr13_> Yes, and you have banned me from #ubuntu for discussing the option of using a root "shell"
[15:10] <usr13_> If that is not to be discussed on #ubuntu or not?  Or ...?
[15:10] <IdleOne> actually, no. You were banned because you "rage quit" the channel when I asked you to stop talking about using root/sudo
[15:11] <usr13_> Oh ok... Well I was leaving anyway.  I was going to bed.
[15:11] <IdleOne> right, every time I leave a room I make sure to yell at everybody in it also.
[15:11] <usr13_> At any rate, I don't think I deserve to be banned.
[15:11] <IdleOne> I don't think you understand why you were banned.
[15:12] <usr13_> It was you, not everone.
[15:12] <usr13_> Ok, then explain.
[15:12] <IdleOne> The bad attitude you displayed is not very family friendly and is not what the Ubuntu community considers proper behaviour in our channels.
[15:12] <usr13_> Ok
[15:12] <usr13_> fair enough.
[15:13] <usr13_> I agree with that type of stance.
[15:13] <IdleOne> That is good. I'm going to have the bot send you a couple of links, please read them so that we don't have further issues
[15:13] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[15:13] <IdleOne> !codeofconduct
[15:13] <usr13_> Ok
[15:14] <usr13_> (I've read them before, but will read again.
[15:16] <IdleOne> When you are done let me know if you agree to follow those guidelines and I will be happy to remove the ban in #ubuntu. Know that if there are future issues it will be more difficult to resolve.
[15:19] <IdleOne> As for the root/sudo topic. I agree with you  on some of it but #ubuntu supports using sudo or sudo -i for extended root shell. Please try to assist in the Ubuntu way while you are in #ubuntu.
[15:19] <usr13_> "err, learn, and err less in future"
[15:20] <IdleOne> sorry?
[15:20] <usr13_> ... just quoting from http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct
[15:20] <usr13_> That one I had yet to read....
[15:23] <usr13_> But when I came here, I asked to define "root shell" BECAUSE, I certainly do not believe someone should login to an Xsession as root, and so if that is what is commonly refered to as a root shell then I am quite wrong to state that that is ok, because I do not believe that it is), BUT I do not understand an Xsession as being refered to a "root shell".
[15:24] <usr13_> That is my question.....   When someone says "root shell", are they refering to Xsession?
[15:24] <IdleOne> Well, I am not the person to define what a root shell is, besides that is beyond the scope of this channel.
[15:24] <usr13_> Because, I have in the passed seen people refer to "gnome shell".  So.....
[15:25] <IdleOne> You are welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss it there. We have plenty of pretty smart people who I am sure would be glad to explain it.
[15:26] <usr13_> Ok, well not important. I dont use either of those terms because it's too ambigious.
[15:26] <IdleOne> Back to this ban thing. Can you agree to follow the guidelines?
[15:26] <usr13_> Yes
[15:26] <IdleOne> ban has been removed. thanks for understanding and have a great day.
[15:27] <usr13_> THe main thing I want to see is an open and honest exchange of Linux expertise and knowledge.
[15:27] <usr13_> Ok.
[15:27] <IdleOne> Make sure you don't forget to part this channel.
[15:29] <usr13_> Ok.  Leaving now.  But, do not think that I meant any malice to you or anyone else, because I really didn't, and I dont.  Ok>?
[15:29] <IdleOne> We don't.
[15:30] <usr13_> Ok, fair enough.  THank you.
[15:30] <IdleOne> Thank you.
[16:01] <usr13> IdleOne: Are you here?
[16:01] <usr13> seeing:  "Cannot join to channel #ubuntu (You are banned)
[16:02] <usr13> Anyone?
[16:03] <usr13> <IP_ADDRESS>   #My IP.
[16:04] <usr13> I think someone may have banned the IP?
[16:05] <IdleOne> give me a moment
[16:05] <usr13> Ok
[16:07] <IdleOne> try now
[16:07] <usr13> Ok, you fixed it.
[16:08] <IdleOne> Make sure you don't forget to part this channel.
[16:08] <usr13> IdleOne: BTW, those two documents are very well written....
[16:09] <usr13> Ok.  C u later.
[17:35] <DJones> @comment 52485 Posting links to pornography
[17:36] <bazhang> klined I believe
[17:36] <bazhang> if idoru's kill include kline
 Sach, Canonical and others think almost daily updates are acceptable, they are not, and they don't test those updates
[18:15] <bazhang> augh
[18:23] <bazhang> and now the details come.
[18:27] <bazhang> wharglb, hi
[18:28] <wharglb> Hi, why am I being redirected here?
[18:33] <wharglb> Is it because I'm gay?
[18:33] <wharglb> Do you have something against gay people in #ubuntu ?
[18:34] <bazhang> wharglb, uh what?
[18:34] <IdleOne> No it has nothing to do with your sexual preferences, but you will remain banned.
[18:34] <wharglb> I asked a question pertaining to Ubuntu's Firefox package and why it doesn't work on bad-dragon.com, the site from which I buy my dildos.
[18:34] <zee> hey
[18:34] <zee> why did I just get redirected here
[18:34] <wharglb> Your default Firefox package does not work with this site's shoopping cart.
[18:34] <bazhang> perhaps just change the bf to straight +b
[18:35] <zee> wharglb: what is the site in question
[18:35] <zee> I have been experiencing issues with shopping carts too
[18:35] <wharglb> I already told them bad-dragon.com
[18:35] <zee> interesting
[18:35] <zee> I were facing issues with this site too
[18:35] <IdleOne> Could you both please part this channel now.
[18:36] <zee> am I not allowed here?
[18:36] <zee> Do you have issues with me being here IdleOne?
[18:36] <wharglb> No, this is a legitimate problem.
[18:36] <zee> indeed
[18:36] <wharglb> Do you think we're joking? It's not a joke, we can't buy our entertainment using Ubuntu.
[18:36] <IdleOne> zee: Do you have a reason for being here?
[18:36] <zee> I were redirected here
[18:37] <wharglb> I do. I was banned for no reason at all, for asking a legitimate question!
[18:37] <IdleOne> ok, give me a moment
[18:37] <wharglb> Anyway I have to leave now.  I don't know of any
[18:59] <ikonia> yes, but you are still installing something that adds a ppa
[18:59] <Pici> google debs that are in Ubuntu?
[18:59] <ikonia> you're still making a choice to install that software
[18:59] <IdleOne> ikonia: exactly
[18:59] <bazhang> the wine 1.4 precise PPA?
[19:00] <IdleOne> I doubt that
[19:00] <bazhang> thats sabel's issue, but he says he has NO idea how that PPA got added
[19:00] <IdleOne> probably followed some instructions blindly on some site
[19:00] <ikonia> based on what I've seen of him earlier today, he blindly typed what he was told
[19:00] <bazhang> heh yeah
[19:01] <bazhang> how does "I'm a new user" translate into "I have no short-term memory of that event"
[19:02] <bazhang> double -m
[19:03] <IdleOne> does that mean nobody can talk now?
[19:05] <bazhang> the alternate installer of 12.04?
[19:05] <bazhang> thought that one went bye bye
[19:06] <tsimpson> from 12.10
[19:06] <bazhang> ok thanks
[19:14] <IdleOne> why did /mode +b *!*@unaffiliated/quix0te$##fix_your_connection work ?
[19:14] <IdleOne> didn't*
[19:17] <DJones> Just guessing, but they're joining without the cloak
[19:18] <IdleOne> I'm not seeing that here on my client
[19:18] <DJones> Maybe /mode +b *!*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:19] <IdleOne> I set it on the nick
[19:19] <DJones> They're joining from that ip and then the cloak is changing the host
[19:19] <bazhang> now need a #kubuntu op
[19:22] <genii-around> IdleOne: Yes, it's a matter of waiting to tap the Enter key at just the right moment!
[19:22] <IdleOne> lol
[19:22] <chu> Now, I imagine at some point (when he's fixed his connection) he'll drop past here?
[19:23] <tsimpson> -server and -classroom too
[19:23] <IdleOne> probably
[19:23] <IdleOne> anymore channels?
[19:24] <tsimpson> not that I can see
[21:02] <bazhang> use 'cat' to put the iso on usb stick?
[21:03] <bazhang> I tried that and the software updater recognized it as an installer medium
[21:04] <genii-around> The hybrid iso images work fine that way, yes
[21:05] <bazhang> nice
[21:05] <bazhang> thanks genii-around