[03:59] <k_sze[work]> How do I force Trusty server to renew the IP address by DHCP?
[04:00] <k_sze[work]> I have unplugged the network cable and plugged it to another network.
[04:00] <k_sze[work]> `dhclient -r` and then `dhclient` don't seem to have any effect
[09:05] <al_nz1> any nagios peeps here?
[09:06] <al_nz1> I installed nagiosgraph and *had* it going, but now i am getting blank graphs - sigh
[15:25] <zul> jamespage: hey when you get a second can you add the zesty-ocata schroot please
[15:38] <jamespage> zul, done
[15:38] <zul> jamespage: merci buckets
[15:39] <jamespage> zul, yw
[16:26] <synthmeat> i'm not sure what in this service config makes it not stop on restarts/stops https://gist.github.com/synthmeat/db9a68bee22f0abfff98aee9b51e787e
[16:26] <synthmeat> i get EADDRINUSE on each restart
[17:12] <rickardve> Anyone who managed to use ec2-ami-tools to bundle a Ubuntu 16.04 Instance Store AMI? I get problems with grub, and it failes to boot.
[17:12] <rickardve> (It does work with 14.04 and 16.10)
[17:17] <nacc> rcj: --^ maybe you know?
[17:18] <rcj> rickardve, PV instance-store?
[17:20] <coreycb> beisner, hi can you promote the packages in liberty-staging to liberty-proposed please?
[17:21] <coreycb> beisner, I'm sorry, I meant mitaka
[17:21] <beisner> ctrl-c
[17:21] <beisner> ;-) jk, yep, on it, mitaka.
[17:25] <beisner> coreycb, mitaka staging->proposed done
[17:25] <rickardve> rcj: PV or HVM doesn't matter
[17:26] <rcj> What does the error on the console look like when you try to boot?  For PV, are you installing grub-legacy-ec2?  What is the structure of the disk image (FS without partitioning?)
[17:28] <rcj> And do you have any feature flags enabled for the FS that you don't see in stock (working) instance-store AMIs?  You can check with tune2fs -l /dev/<root_device>
[17:28] <rickardve> rcj: I have used the latest official Ubuntu 16.04 ami and just try to install the needed tools and repackage it into a new ami.
[17:30] <rcj> rickardve, Okay.  So what do you see in the console log when it tries to boot?
[17:31] <rickardve> nothing, it hangs in grub. So for pv I should use grub-legacy-ec2 and for hvm grub.
[17:32] <rickardve> When I bundle the vol I get a warning about: Missing key 'BOOT_IMAGE' and some more.
[18:02] <zul> jamespage: while you are at it can you add the ocata backport jobs as well please
[21:33] <ThiagoCMC> jamespage, hey man, we're facing the following bug in our Xenial / Mitaka deployment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1605720 - any change to speed this up and include on Xenial?
[21:35] <ThiagoCMC> I tried to rebuild Nova package but, first, the patch doesn't apply clean against nova_13.1.1-0ubuntu1.1, then, I updated it but then, the tests fail that it runs during the build process fails.
[21:36] <ThiagoCMC> Test error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/587492/
[21:36] <ThiagoCMC> So, because the test fail, I'm a bit concerned in using the current version of the patch, in my production environment...
[22:35] <zioproto> hello
[22:35] <zioproto> coreycb: hey there, are you around ?
[22:47] <zioproto> coreycb: sumitted a new patchset for that bug


[08:31] <ninjarider89> ok who wants to help a noob out
[08:35] <diogenes_> !ask | ninjarider89
[08:39] <ninjarider89> ok i dnt know exactly how irc wrks so here we go trying to install lubuntu boot live run throu the install and go to boot from hd and it falls back to gnu grub 2.0 and thats where i get stuck any help?
[08:42] <diogenes_> ninjarider89: i didn't quite get, what OS is currently installed on your pc?
[08:42] <ninjarider89> windows 10 on another hd
[08:42] <diogenes_> so you've got a pc with two HDDs?
[08:43] <ninjarider89> its a laptop sorry hp envy touchsmart
[08:43] <diogenes_> with two HDDs?
[08:44] <ninjarider89> yes
[08:44] <diogenes_> and on one of then is windows 10 and what is on the other one?
[08:45] <ninjarider89> according to the partition manager lubuntu
[08:46] <ninjarider89> but i cant get it to boot it falls back to gnu grub2.0
[08:46] <diogenes_> wait, did you actually install the lubuntu? or you trying to install it
[08:47] <ninjarider89> the live installer said it completed
[08:48] <diogenes_> ok, now when the pc starts, does it reach grub menu? where you can choose to boot either lubuntu or windows 10?
[08:49]  * diogenes_ reboots his pc
[08:50] <ninjarider89> no it boots to windows 10 i have to manually select the hd in the boot device
[08:50] <ninjarider89> menu
[10:34] <sirjams> hellp
[10:35] <sirjams> hello
[10:35] <sirjams> I use Lubuntu 17 amd I would like to upgrade it to 18, but without loosing any data. How can I do it?
[10:36] <sirjams> is it possible to do it by terminal?
[10:36] <sirjams> or maybe save my /home dir in a usb pen and make a new installation?
[10:36] <sirjams> anyone?
[10:37] <sirjams> help the newbie here... :)
[10:45] <tsimonq2> !ask | sirjams
[10:45] <sirjams> Ok ubottu, sorry.
[10:45] <tsimonq2> sirjams: sudo do-release-upgrade does the upgrade to 18.04.
[10:45] <sirjams> I am a Lubuntu 17 user...
[10:45] <tsimonq2> You don't lose data.
[10:46] <tsimonq2> You should always have backups, by the way.
[10:46] <sirjams> holly...you gave the answer before the question???
[10:46] <sirjams> :)
[10:46] <tsimonq2> hehe
[10:46] <tsimonq2> I guess I meant to do this one...
[10:47] <tsimonq2> !patience | sirjams
[10:47] <sirjams> so...I dont loose any data, right?
[10:47] <tsimonq2> You shouldn't.
[10:47] <sirjams> sorry for the newbie question, but how do I save my /home drr in a usb flash pen?
[10:48] <sirjams> *dir
 Hi from the Telegram bridge.
 Do you have anything on the drive at the moment?
[10:49] <sirjams> yes, some docs
 So, insert the flash drive and open it in the file manager.
[10:49] <sirjams> ok...
[10:50] <sirjams> and copy it all to the flash drive, right?
 Then go to /home in the file manager.
 Yup, you can do that.
[10:50] <sirjams> ok
[10:51] <sirjams> but you had other idea...do to /home in the file manager and?
 Then from there you can just copy the whole folder.
[10:52] <sirjams> well...thanks! you were great! tx for helping this newbie...
 Anytime :)
[10:53] <sirjams> I will do it now. Upgrade and copy files to the flash drive.
 Copy first, upgrade second.
[10:54] <sirjams> what about the installed programs...will they be deleted or will stay with the new Lubuntu?
[10:55] <sirjams> ok tsimonq2
 @sirjams, They will stay.
[10:58] <sirjams> tx. I had a lot of reserves doing this upgrade...my lubuntu machine is old and it is  not powerfull...and I red that lubuntu 18 needs the double of the resources, right?
 Well, that's mainly there to reflect the current web standards.
 You should be fine.
[11:00] <sirjams> ok. well...I will do it and see how it goes...but thanks guys...you were great!
[11:01] <sirjams> stay well, stay safe!
 Thanks.
[17:26] <sirjams> hello again
[17:27] <sirjams> I am a lubuntu 17 user, and I was trying to upgrade it to lubuntu 18 by terminal
[17:28] <sirjams> but every tutorial and articles I found are only related with ubuntu, not lubuntu...
[17:28] <sirjams> is it the same thing?
[17:28] <sirjams> sorry for the newbie questions
[17:28] <wxl> sirjams: yes
[17:30] <sirjams> ok. so, if I follow all instructions about upgrading from ubuntu 17 to 18, is is going to do the same thing with my lubuntu 17...it becomes Lubuntu 18, right?
[17:31] <sirjams> I red so many things and way to do it...wich is the easiest way to do it by terminal?
[17:32] <sirjams> I made back up of all my docs in /home dir...
[17:32] <wxl> usually `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` but if you're on an old version, you might have to manually edit the sources.list and/or use the iso to upgrade
[17:33] <sirjams> I am using the 17 version...
[17:36] <sirjams> 17.10
[17:37] <sirjams> when I try: sudo do-release-upgrade -d , it tells me that I have the new version
[17:37] <sirjams> ???
[17:37] <wxl> what's `lsb_release -d` tell you?
[17:38] <sirjams> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 17.10 Release:	17.10 Codename:	artful
[17:39] <wxl> and to be sure what's `grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades` give you?
[17:43] <sirjams> Prompt=lts
[17:43] <wxl> oh that's weird
[17:43] <wxl> edit that file and change that value to normal
[17:44] <wxl> then `sudo do-release-upgrade` should work
[17:45] <ca_cabot>  hey all, i'm on lubuntu 17.10, and trying to upgrade to 18.04 - sudo do-release-upgrade returns that no new release can be found?
[17:45] <wxl> ca_cabot: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades so Prompt=normal
[17:48] <ca_cabot> sweet, ty! why does it need to change from lts to normal when upgrading to an lts release?
[17:49] <ca_cabot> because artful wasn't lts?
[17:49] <wxl> yeah i have no idea how you were on artful and it was set to lts
[17:49] <wxl> that's what i'd call a very strange situation
[17:49] <ca_cabot> weird
[17:49] <wxl> i had thought that if set to anything, it would allow an upgrade to any lts release but it seems that the issue is that it will only support lts->lts if it's set to lts
[17:50] <wxl> whereas normal will allow normal->normal or lts->normal or normal->lts
[17:50] <ca_cabot> i see, i can't say it makes since - but i appreciate your help! upgrading now!
[17:50] <wxl> have fun :)
[17:50] <ca_cabot> ty
[21:39] <wxl> ssh bfdata2
[21:39] <wxl> oooops :)


[19:28] <codemagician> agentgasmask, thanks
[19:28] <codemagician> alpha--, thanks
[19:28] <notaguru> if i want to run ubuntu on virtual box from windows 7 do i have to download the .iso again, or can i use a live cd that i already have of ubuntu 11.04?
[19:29] <urlin2u> notaguru, which virtual app?
[19:29] <jdjdjdidjdidj> evolution  keeps putting "https" as the mail sever even though i copy and past the server address in
[19:29] <alpha--> you can use livecd
[19:29] <Pici> notaguru: You can likely use the CD, but thats a better question for #vbox
[19:29] <urlin2u> notaguru, you can use the cd yeah.
[19:29] <notaguru> ok, thanks. didnt want to waste any bandwidth if i didnt have to
[19:29] <alpha--> better yet, rip cd to iso
[19:30] <alpha--> for performance
[19:31] <codemagician> which areas are worth backing up on a ubuntu desktop. so far I have /home /root /etc/ /var/www.... any more?
[19:31] <jdjdjdidjdidj> anyone here use evolution with exchange on ubuntu?
[19:31] <znh> codemagician, /etc
[19:32] <codemagician> znh, i have that one
[19:32] <archae> codemagician:There is no general answer to that. It all depends on how you are setup and what you used.
[19:32] <ortsvorsteher> !details | jdjdjdidjdidj
[19:32] <codemagician> archae, sure, but I'm making sure i haven't missed anything obvious
[19:32] <hallgeirg> Anyone have expirience with sharing folders/files from my ubuntubox to my windows 7 box?
[19:32] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: I have done in the past
[19:32] <jdjdjdidjdidj> Evolution won't save the email configuration settings for my email account
[19:33] <hallgeirg> I cant find my ubuntubox on the network on my windows box.. please help
[19:33] <jdjdjdidjdidj> I put in the imap sever address, click ok, return to the configuration settings and it puts the sever address as 'https'
[19:33] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: that's how it works, it exchange over web
[19:33] <alpha--> codemagician /home is priority #1 for backup
[19:33] <archae> codemagician: If you want a desent backup, use APTonCD to make your current system into a distribution you can reinstall at any time.
[19:33] <Pici> jdjdjdidjdidj: they use the OWA address :/
[19:33] <archae> decent*'
[19:33] <jdjdjdidjdidj> ikonia: no. the sever isn't supposed to be 'https'
[19:34] <jdjdjdidjdidj> i put in the owa address
[19:34] <jdjdjdidjdidj> and it doesn't save it
[19:34] <haled> exit
[19:34] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: seems odd, so it's forcing it to https rather than http
[19:34] <jdjdjdidjdidj> if i put in the owa address, it should say the owa address in that box
[19:34] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: the owa address is a url though
[19:35] <jdjdjdidjdidj> yes
[19:35] <jdjdjdidjdidj> i am putting in the url
[19:35] <codemagician> archae, thanks
[19:35] <archae> that should save all your installed programs and basic settings, but I am unsure as to whether it will also replace the personal files (/home/<user>)
[19:35] <jdjdjdidjdidj> but when i return to the configuration settins, it lists the imap sever as beintg 'https' and only 'https'
[19:35] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: can you place http in front of it ? does it still default to https ?
[19:35] <jdjdjdidjdidj> as in the excat string 'https'
[19:36] <jdjdjdidjdidj> I put in this "https.mail.whatever.com" then click ok.  when i go back in the settings, the sever is listed as the string "https"
[19:36] <share> I downloaded a 32bit .deb for my Maverick (32bit) and ubuntu software center shows this message:  Sorry, 'application' is not available for this type of computer i386???
[19:36] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: that's not a URL
[19:36] <jdjdjdidjdidj> its not saving the address i am putting in for the imap sever address
[19:36] <share> weird
[19:36] <jdjdjdidjdidj> ikonia: well whatever i copy in the correct url
[19:36] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: http://someserver.com or https://someserver.com is a URL
[19:36] <jdjdjdidjdidj> it doesn't save the settings
[19:36] <jdjdjdidjdidj> i know what a url
[19:36] <jdjdjdidjdidj> is
[19:36] <share> i686 GNU/Linux
[19:37] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: ok, so why did you give an invalid one ?
[19:37] <jdjdjdidjdidj> my question is why evolution doesn't save this information
[19:37] <jimbozone> hello, can someone help me (please) with a dual boot issue?
[19:37] <jdjdjdidjdidj> ikonia: no i set up this exchange in thuderbird a while ago
[19:37] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: what is the exact URL you are passing
[19:37] <share> isn't i686 the same as i386 (32 bit)
[19:37] <usr13> jimbozone: What seems to be the problem?
[19:37] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: thunderbird can't connect to exchange
[19:37] <jdjdjdidjdidj> it doesn't matter its an the correct ural
[19:37] <jdjdjdidjdidj> ikonia: yes and no
[19:37] <urlin2u> jimbozone, have you posted the problem?
[19:37] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: ok, if you're not going to give me the details, I'm not going to help you.
[19:38] <jdjdjdidjdidj> ikonia: i gave you the details
[19:38] <jdjdjdidjdidj> i don't understand how to be more clear
[19:38] <jimbozone> I have ubuntu installed and I then installed win7 on a separate drive
[19:38] <aago1254> question i am writing a script so far i get it to run but it needs to run as root and asks for the password do you guys know how to get it to enter in my password automaticly
[19:38] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: no, I asked for the exact url
[19:38] <jdjdjdidjdidj> eveolution doesn't save teh imap sever address i give it
[19:38] <jimbozone> I then ran the boot repair cd
[19:38] <victor_uva> spotify doesn't work properly although I installed wine1.3 from ppa; the problem remains (black rectangles with lines of different colours; the sound is working, but it's annoying not having a correct interface)
[19:38] <jdjdjdidjdidj> ikonia: i don't want to post it
[19:38] <share> jimbozone: you need to fix grub.
[19:38] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: give me the exact URL you are using
[19:38] <jimbozone> and its got ubuntu loading
[19:38] <jdjdjdidjdidj> the url is correct
[19:38] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: send it in a pm to me then
[19:38] <jimbozone> but win7 is not in the boot up menu
[19:38] <share> jimbozone: write everything in one line
[19:38] <usr13> jdjdjdidjdidj: ikonia Lots of conversation - very little information :(
[19:38] <jimbozone> and I'd like it to be :)
[19:38] <jimbozone> sorry :)
[19:39] <urlin2u> jimbozone, run sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[19:39] <jdjdjdidjdidj> how do i send a private message?
[19:39] <share> jimbozone: open a terminal and type sudo update-grub
[19:39] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: you arleady have, you sent me one saying "hold on"
[19:39] <jimbozone> aha - that time it found windows 7
[19:39] <share> : )))
[19:40] <jimbozone> that's it?  that seemed _too_ easy
[19:40] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: ok, so you've sent me the URL, that's great, however the URL you gave me IS https
[19:40] <aago1254> does anyone shell scripts
[19:40] <share> jimbozone: of course it is :) have fun
[19:40] <jimbozone> thx :)
[19:40] <codemagician> how do I stop .gvfs being written in my home directory?
[19:40] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: so that means evolution is correct
[19:40] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: so the url being https is correct by evolution, it's not a problem, it's correct.
[19:40] <usr13> codemagician: what is .gvfs ?
[19:41] <jdjdjdidjdidj> ikonia: it should only read "https". the exact tring "http" should it read teh adress i entered?
[19:41] <codemagician> usr13, its a pain in the arse file that gets written by gnome I think
[19:41] <archae> ikonia: jd is saying that the url he enters is not being saved
[19:41] <usr13> o
[19:41] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: forget http - the url is https
[19:41] <jdjdjdidjdidj> yes fuck
[19:41] <ikonia> archae: ah, I missunderstood that
[19:41] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: control the language please.
[19:41] <jdjdjdidjdidj> sorry
[19:41] <archae> IE: "https://somesite.org" becomes "https://"
[19:41] <jdjdjdidjdidj> can i post an image
[19:41] <jdjdjdidjdidj> or something
[19:41] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: is this for outgoing or incoming mail ?
[19:42] <jdjdjdidjdidj> eveolution isn't saving my configuration settings. that is the problem
[19:42] <codemagician> basically the .gvfs file has user =? group =?  and screws up my backups
[19:42] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: I don't believe you can use owa for outgoing mail
[19:42] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: it needs to be a server address, not a URL
[19:42] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: that's why it's changing https://somedomain.com to https
[19:42] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: it thinks https is the server name
[19:42] <jdjdjdidjdidj> well it should work for the imap though
[19:42] <usr13> codemagician: Where are they, just in /home/user/?
[19:43] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: yes, as that's incoming and can be used with owa
[19:43] <codemagician> usr13, yes
[19:43] <seabhac> g
[19:43] <jdjdjdidjdidj> yeah well evolution isn't saving that information
[19:43] <share> > imap.emailprovider.com
[19:43] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj:  it is, you said it works
[19:43] <usr13> codemagician: All I see is an empty dir on mine.
[19:43] <jdjdjdidjdidj> it doesn't save any of the settigs
[19:43] <jdjdjdidjdidj> no it doesn't work
[19:43] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: for outgoing it needs to be a server name or fully qualivied domain
[19:43] <codemagician> usr13, OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/.... /.gvfs'
[19:43] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: you just said it works for the owa url
[19:43] <jdjdjdidjdidj> ikonia: no sorry, it works in thunderbird
[19:44] <codemagician> usr13, im on ubuntu 11
[19:44] <jdjdjdidjdidj> evolution isn't saving any of the settings i am putting in
[19:44] <usr13> codemagician: ls -l |grep gdfs
[19:44] <usr13> what does that say?^
[19:44] <archae> gvfs*
[19:44] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: try this for me, please put in (just for a test) email.domain.com does it save that
[19:44] <ZenMasta> need some help archiving a folder contents while excluding some others but my command doesn't seem to work
[19:44] <ikonia> jdjdjdidjdidj: use just that name "email.domain.com" nothing else
[19:44] <codemagician> usr13, https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467862
[19:44] <ZenMasta> well, the excludes anyway
[19:45] <ZenMasta> heres my command tar -zcvf ../backup.tar.gz --exclude 'var/cache' --exclude 'media/catalog/samplechapters' --exclude 'media/catalog/product/9/7' --exclude 'cleanmc' *
[19:45] <archae> should you be putting an initial / to represent root?
[19:46] <archae> ie '/var/cache' as opposed to 'var/cache'
[19:46] <usr13> codemagician: ls -l |grep gdfs  #Show us what YOURS looks like.
[19:46] <codemagician> usr13, no output
[19:46] <ZenMasta> archae no its not a root folder
[19:47] <archae> usr13, you had a typo
[19:47] <ZenMasta> var/cach is inside the dir I'm in (/home/users/html
[19:47] <archae> should be: ls -l | grep gvfs
[19:47] <share> I never understood the purpose of gvfsd
[19:47] <share> annoying daemons
[19:47] <usr13> ls -la ~/ |grep .gvfs
[19:48] <mmyers> Good afternoon, everyone.  I'm having a problem with the Ubuntu Installer on a Mac Mini.  I see the purple boot screen, and I can select "Try Ubuntu before Installing" or "Install Ubuntu", but either way, when I do, I lose signal to my monitor, and my disk drive just clicks around for a while.  I've tried waiting 20 minutes, but nothing ever happens.  Is there any troubleshooting or anything I can do here?
[19:48] <share> bonobo-activation-server? what is this?
[19:48] <codemagician> dr-x------   2 me devteam    0 2011-09-05 18:54 .gvfs
[19:48] <ZenMasta> mmyers clicking hd sounds like trouble ie mechanical failure
[19:48] <codemagician> but it changes to ? ? sometimes
[19:49] <archae> I've had HDDs click repeatedly when they weren't getting enough power :/
[19:49] <mmyers> Not the HD.  The DVD drive.  It sounds like it's trying to read stuff, ZenMasta.  Not really a click, more...the drive working furiously at reads.
[19:49] <kyle__> mmyers: Is the disc really scratched up?
[19:49] <share> mmyers: did u burn the CD at low speed?
[19:49] <share> you have to.
[19:49] <archae> try redownloading the image file, may be corrupt or a bad burn
[19:50] <usr13> codemagician: It IS a read only dir on mine too, don't know why, but.  If you are using a script for  your backup, I suppose you could add a chmod +w ~/.gvfs to it.
[19:50] <codemagician> usr13, the permissions constantly change
[19:50] <coz_> mmyers,  also check the md5sum on the iso and burn at  1x if possible
[19:50] <mmyers> It's a new disk.  And no, I didn't.  I tried three different images (32 bit 11.14, 64 bit 11.14, 10.12), and all three have the same issue.
[19:50] <share> mmyers: check md5sum of .iso or download using .torrent, then burn th cd at the lowest speed possible
[19:50] <codemagician> usr13, before i started this conversation it was owned by ? ?
[19:50] <mmyers> And all the MD5 sums are correct on all three isos.
[19:50] <coz_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[19:50] <share> mmyers: ok, so the problem is your driver
[19:50] <mmyers> But I will try again burning the DVD at low speed.
[19:51] <coz_> mmyers,   1x if possible
[19:51] <mmyers> share: The driver?
[19:51] <share> drive
[19:51] <share> sorry
[19:51] <share> mmyers: you can also install using a USB
[19:51] <share> pendrive I mean
[19:51] <usr13> codemagician: Well, not read only it's execute only.  Let's do a bit of research here...
[19:51] <mmyers> Any clue how to boot from a pendrive on a Mac?
[19:52] <codemagician> usr13, https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467862
[19:52] <codemagician> usr13, seems its already reported
[19:52] <BiKER-JENS> Hallo, Quick help to start OpenSSH on boot?
[19:52] <ikonia> BiKER-JENS: it does it by default
[19:52] <BiKER-JENS> okay noworries then :p
[19:52] <BiKER-JENS> how about getting rtorrent to start in a "screen" ?
[19:53] <BiKER-JENS> on boot
[19:53] <ikonia> BiKER-JENS: screen has an option for what command to run
[19:53] <BiKER-JENS> But where can put some kind a job, to tell my ubuntu server to run screen rtorrent
[19:54] <BiKER-JENS> or something like that
[19:54] <usr13> codemagician: This looks interesting:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=791693
[19:54] <squeek> hi
[19:55] <share> hi
[19:55] <spasysheep> I have two lists of files, and want to compare them and get a list of files that are in one list but not the other. The files won't necessarily appear in the same order in both lists. How do I do this?
[19:55] <ikonia> BiKER-JENS: you could look at rc.local, but it's not something I'd suggest running as a startup job
[19:56] <justinas> Good morning!
[19:56] <justinas> Is there anyone alive here?
[19:56] <IamTrying> I have to change from my terminal the background wallpaper to black or red color how can i do that? e.g: xsetroot -solid black or #000000 does nothing.
[19:56] <mmyers> share: The thing is, I guess, I don't think it's the drive:  A Debian install disk works just fine; the only problem is that Debian doesn't seem to have support for the Ethernet Card I have, so I can't really use that unless I find a way to get the driver in.  And I tried the Ubuntu disk in a MacBook Pro and it worked fine.  It's just this Mac Mini, which is weird.
[19:56] <usr13> codemagician: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gvfs-backends
[19:57] <justinas> Superb. :-)
[19:57] <justinas> I have a peculiar problem with GNOME 3. The problem is that when I login to my  account from GDM using gnome-session, it logs in ok, but after a second or two  just freezes.
[19:57] <codemagician> usr13, thanks i'll check it out
[19:57] <coz_> IamTrying,   gnome-terminal.... edit profile   Colors tab
[19:57] <justinas> I can move the mouse cursor and that's about it.
[19:57] <share> mmyers: try ##hardware (maybe u need a registered nick)
[19:57] <justinas> However
[19:57] <justinas> If I login to my recovery console from GDM (this simply starts xterm) and start  gnome-session from the recovery console, everything works just peachy.
[19:57] <mmyers> All right.  Thanks.
[19:57] <justinas> I am at my wits end what to do.
[19:57] <ikonia> IamTrying: -bg
[19:57] <kyle__> Eh, ##hardware just had intel and amd fanboys going at it.
[19:57] <justinas> What could be a problem?
[19:58] <share> lol
[19:58] <kyle__> justinas: Out of curiosity, does it start moving again if you twiddle keys, like right left arrow over and over?
[19:58] <justinas> kyle__: Didn't try that. Interesting.
[19:59] <justinas> kyle__: Did that help to you?
[19:59] <share> mmyers: ##mac
[19:59] <justinas> And if it helps, what's the problem?
[19:59] <lesnik_> hi
[19:59] <usr13> codemagician gvfs - userspace virtual filesystem - server  ... I wonder what happens if you uninstall it?  I wonder if it is essential ...?
[19:59] <mmyers> share: Wouldn't that channel be more for Mac OS X type stuff?
[19:59] <kyle__> justinas: Try it.  For some insane reason gnome & other software are reading from the blocking random device, instead of the non-blocking.  If you run out of entropy, that will happen.
[19:59] <share> yeah :|
[20:00] <kyle__> justinas: I had a similar issue with ubuntu 10.10 when it came out, especially on systems with SSDs.
[20:00] <IamTrying> ikonia, "xsetroot -bg black" is not getting work
[20:00] <usr13> it's got a lot of dependencies and reverse depends  ...Oh well.
[20:00] <justinas> Interesting, because I am using Ubuntu 11.04 and there are no SSD devices in sight.
[20:01] <Guest26538> sorry where can i find support for kubuntu in italian???
[20:01] <share> if anyone finds out the purpose of gvsfd and how to uninstall it tell me pls
[20:01] <ikonia> IamTrying: xsetroot -bg -solid black according to the man page
[20:01] <BiKER-JENS> does some om you have experience with Avalanche I have problem with the "open" button wen i select a torrent from my desktop" at try to send it -then its lights up green - but torrent will not appear in my download list (sorry for long text)
[20:01] <ikonia> IamTrying: although how it will work with multiple desktops and compiz I don't know
[20:02] <usr13> share:  I was just talking about it: "gvfs - userspace virtual filesystem - server  ... I wonder what happens if you uninstall it?  I wonder if it is essential ...?"
[20:02] <chroda> ..
[20:02] <Guest26538> sorry
[20:02] <IamTrying> ikonia, failed still by including xsetroot -bg -solid black &
[20:02] <ikonia> IamTrying: why are you using &
[20:02] <Markio92ITA> sorry where can i find support for kubuntu in italian???
[20:02] <ikonia> Markio92ITA: #ubuntu-it
[20:02] <IamTrying> ikonia, i am running a java -cp myapps.jar main.runit
[20:02] <Markio92ITA> tnx
[20:03] <thomasj73> Hi everyone
[20:03] <pnjh> Evenin' all :) ... Quick question; is there anything I could have done / changed / installed or removed that would change file transfer speeds? It used to be lightning fast (few hundred mbps at least) and now it's down to 34mbps (ish) All I've done is remove some unwanted programs and change from gnome to xfce4 (all HDD's are EXT4)
[20:03] <thomasj73> Hate being the new guy but I think I messed something up
[20:03] <ikonia> IamTrying: what has that got to do with using & on xsetroot
[20:03] <usr13> share:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gvfs-backends
[20:03] <IamTrying> ikonia, for a #!/bin/sh file
[20:03] <thomasj73> I keep seeing stuff online about swap but when I set my system up, i didn't set up swap
[20:03] <guntbert> thomas__: please just state your question - try to keep it on one line
[20:03] <thomasj73> is that bad?
[20:04] <share> thats it im moving to win98
[20:04] <usr13> pnjh: File transfer speeds?  Isnt' that a network issue?
[20:04] <ikonia> IamTrying: ok, so stop trying to us it in a script and test it outside the script
[20:04] <thomasj73> Is it too late to add swap after I've already installed Ubuntu?
[20:04] <share> thomasj73: no, make space and create the partition
[20:05] <thomasj73> share: mkswap?
[20:05] <guntbert> !swap | thomas__
[20:05] <pnjh> usr13: I don't mean over the internet, I mean for example if I drag and drop files from my external hard drive to my /home folder or vice versa, or my second internal HDD
[20:05] <Jordan_U> thomasj73: Ubuntu creates a swap partition by default. Did you use automatic partitioning in the installer or manual?
[20:05] <share> thomasj73: the only problem is that you could lose files while resizing if disc is fragmented
[20:05] <usr13> o
[20:05] <IamTrying> ikonia, $xsetroot -bg black -solid black ; failed
[20:05] <share> I guess.
[20:05] <thomasj73> Jordan: Manual :(
[20:05] <ikonia> IamTrying: are you using compiz/multiple desktop spaces  ?
[20:06] <usr13> pnjh: How about doing it via CLI?  Can you tell a difference there too?
[20:06] <thomasj73> Jordan_U: How can I see my partitions?  fdisk?
[20:06] <share> thomasj73: boot from livecd and then use gparted. i think you can do that
[20:06] <pnjh> usr13: I can do very little via CLI (ex windoze noob) :)
[20:06] <usr13> pnjh: Run htop and see if the system is really that busy that it can't transfer files in a timely manor.
[20:06] <ZenMasta> fdisk -l
[20:07] <Jordan_U> thomasj73: I would recommend using GParted from a LiveCD/USB. After you create a swap partition you will need to add an entry for it in your /etc/fstab.
[20:07] <Jordan_U> !fstab | thomasj73
[20:07] <kyle__> thomasj73: Console, fdisk, gui, gparted is nice.
[20:07] <usr13> pnjh: man mv
[20:07]  * kyle__ happens to love LVM, and is quite annoyed it's not in there by default.
[20:07] <usr13> pnjh: man mv    and   man cp
[20:07] <ikonia> kyle__: can you cut out the /me commands please
[20:07] <share> thomasj73: administration > system monitor File Systems tab :)
[20:07] <IamTrying> ikonia, how do i check it? I am using default desktop (nothing special).
[20:07] <kyle__> ikonia: Sorry, /me didn't know it offended anyone ;P
[20:08] <pnjh> usr13: aha! been looking for this kind of function, thanks :) ...
[20:08] <ikonia> IamTrying: on 11.04 I'm not sure how many desktops are there by default
[20:08] <thomasj73> share: nope, no swap :(  sudo fdisk -l: /dev/sdb1   *           1        7296    58603520   83  Linux
[20:08] <kyle__> ikonia: in unity, 4 desktops.
[20:09] <kyle__> ikonia: Same in gnome as well, I believe.
[20:09] <thomasj73> And that's it\
[20:09] <Uno_> would this be a good place to ask how to install a script for xChat?
[20:09] <IamTrying> ikonia, 4 desktops, using the 1st one always.
[20:09] <ikonia> kyle__: thank you
[20:09] <ikonia> IamTrying: that maybe the problem
[20:09] <share> thomasj73: do you really need swap? are you gonna hibernate your computer?
[20:09] <share> do you use the maximum of RAM
[20:09] <ikonia> IamTrying: I'm not sure if xsetroot can do that, need to research
[20:09] <thomasj73> share: I don't think I do
[20:09] <thomasj73> share: nope
[20:09] <share> thomasj73: so you are fine.
[20:10] <luc_> anybodytellme how to get my speakers to work i have nvidia pci ex card with hdmi audio to my tv
[20:10] <share> thomasj73: do you know what swap is?
[20:10] <share> :P
[20:10] <kyle__> share: You should always have swap.  Even if it's not a ton, you should always have it.
[20:10] <usr13> pnjh: A lot of things can be done faster/easier via CLI.
[20:10] <IamTrying> ikonia, how can you just change the background wallpaper of "login prompt stage" like clicking the username/password (behind there is the wallpaper that i want to change to black.
[20:10] <ikonia> IamTrying: the login screen.....? that's not a desktop
[20:10] <thomasj73> share: space on the hdd to stash sleeping apps until needed to be brought back into memory?
[20:10] <ikonia> IamTrying: that's controlled through gdm
[20:11] <IamTrying> ikonia, yes from login screen till desktop
[20:11] <IamTrying> ikonia, how can i change the gdm background ?
[20:11] <IamTrying> ikonia, that will solve my problem.
[20:11] <pnjh> usr13: It would appear so, what is htop by the way? terminal tells me I don't have it (and kindly offers to install it for me)
[20:11] <thomasj73> share: Memory: 307MiB of 1.7GiB Swap: 0 of 0
[20:11] <ikonia> IamTrying: I don't know if there is a tool in unity,
[20:12] <nothingspecial> pnjh: It is a system monitor
[20:12] <IamTrying> ikonia, /etc/gdm/**/default?
[20:12] <thomasj73> share: So by the looks of things, I don't need to worry about swap then?
[20:12] <Uno_> I'm trying to install a nowplaying script for xChat and Rhythmbox but I have no idea how to circumvent the Ubuntu installing phase, since I know nothing about directory or any of that.
[20:12] <pnjh> nothingspecial: thanks
[20:12] <kyle__> thomasj73: Do you use a web browser, install the flash plugin?
[20:13] <thomasj73> kyle__: Chrome, yes I have flash installed
[20:13] <kyle__> thomasj73: Then you need swap.
[20:13] <jakemp> What is the easy way to reboot, my little shutdown/sleep, etc. menu is gone
[20:13] <blizzow> Anyone know what the default virtual machine hypervisor is going to be in oneiric?
[20:13] <xangua> jakemp: press thw power button
[20:13] <kyle__> thomasj73: Browsers, even the best of them, gobble up memory, and leak a little of it.  Flash, gobbles up even MORE memory, and leaks most of it.
[20:14] <jakemp> xangua, nothing happens
[20:14] <thedangler> I followed the grub recovery and the options for ubuntu are missing all that is there is the windows partition and some other memory checks.
[20:14] <jakemp> maybe it's an oneric thing.
[20:14] <kyle__> thomasj73: Leave a page up with a poorly written flash advertisement on it, and in the morning, that craplet could be using 90% of your ram and 2gigs of swap.  It happens.
[20:14] <thomasj73> kyle__: Ok, I will apt-get Gparted
[20:15] <thomasj73> kyle__, can I do it while logged in or do I have to boot off my thumb drive?
[20:15] <xangua> jakemp: then you should not be asking here
[20:15] <kyle__> thomasj73: If there's free space on your drive, you should be able to do it without rebooting.  If there isn't, you want to boot off of a thumb drive.
[20:15] <IamTrying> If i put BACKCOLOR="#000000" in /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default would it change the background wallpaper ?
[20:15] <kyle__> thomasj73: You have one huge partition using the whole drive, don't you?
[20:16] <jakemp> xangua, I didn't know if it was an oneric thing or a unity thing.
[20:16] <jakemp> and +1 still hasn't responded
[20:16] <thomasj73> kyle__,  Oh, I have plenty of freespace, it's a fresh install
[20:16] <kyle__> IamTrying: No, because that would change the X background, not the image file over it that is used in the login screen.
[20:16] <thomasj73> kyle__, yes it is
[20:16] <thomasj73> kyle__, all formatted ext3 i believe, 1 partition
[20:16] <kyle__> thomasj73: Sorry, should have been more clear.  Free space as in unpartitioned space.
[20:17] <IamTrying> kyle__, wow, hmm. How can i change it, i cant find anything to search even in google. :)
[20:17] <thomasj73> kyle__, oh, no, all partitioned
[20:17] <salva_> hi
[20:17] <kyle__> thomasj73: You can actually make a swap file instead, if you don't want to reboot, but if you can,r eboot, use gparted to make a swap partition.  Makes life better.
[20:17] <salva_> greetings to all
[20:18] <kyle__> IamTrying: Did you lookup gdm custom.conf?
[20:18] <kyle__> IamTrying: I'm no expert at it, haven't used it in awhile, but I thought it was pretty well layed out in the gnome pages.
[20:18] <IamTrying> kyle__, yes i have /etc/gdm/custom.conf with [daemon] [greeter]
[20:19] <pnjh> The 4cores monitored in HTOP don't go aboe 5%, 1gig of my 16gig memory used, yet the file transfers still go SLOW.  Something was also causing serious interupts in Gnome, stuttering video play back and delay between typing and text appearing on screen, this isn't happening in xfce though
[20:19] <thomasj73> kyle__, ok to paste pstebin link in channel?
[20:19] <IamTrying> kyle__, you think that would do that job? Then i know what i should do, i have a list from Fedora last time i did.
[20:19] <kyle__> thomasj73: Yea
[20:20] <kyle__> IamTrying: I think you use BackgroundImage=<foo> in the [greeter] section.
[20:20] <IamTrying> kyle__, thanks a lot
[20:20] <thomasj73> kyle__, http://pastebin.com/eYikwZ92
[20:20] <kyle__> pnjh: What does ethtool tell you about your connection speed?
[20:21] <pnjh> I'm not referring to internet or network transfer, just between hard disk drives, kyle__
[20:21] <anime> hey
[20:21] <kyle__> pnjh: Oooh.  Damn.
[20:21] <thomasj73> kyle__, the other disks are the ones in the laptop, winderz on it, I have to convince wife to switch to ubuntu, am running off external drive
[20:21] <anime> hello
[20:22] <bannik> hello
[20:22] <bannik> I need a favour
[20:22] <bannik> does anyone know the user ActionParsnip
[20:22] <ikonia> bannik: yes,
[20:22] <ikonia> is this ubuntu related ?
[20:22] <sharperguy> Hi. Does anyone have any idea why I sometimes get sound in wine and sometimes don't? I'm using ubuntu 10.10. Right now there is no audio and "Test sound" in winecfg just says "audio test failed". I am not running anything that should be using the sound device to my knowledge.
[20:22] <bannik> can you tell him a big thank you, he helped me fix my mouse and I am very very grateful
[20:22] <ikonia> bannik: no problem
[20:22] <gumus> hi all
[20:22] <bannik> :)
[20:22] <pnjh> kyle__: for example, a few days ago I moved a folder containing 26gb in a couple of minutes, today it took around 12 minutes, but I can't work out what I have changed /removed / messed up lol :(
[20:23] <kyle__> thomasj73: Yea, gparted shoudl fix it.
[20:23] <thomasj73> kyle__, thank you very much for your time
[20:23] <wilhart> what is the program to get twinview in gnome3?
[20:23] <coz_> pnjh,   the first transfer was from  the main hard driver to a different location on the same driver?
[20:23] <wilhart> how to setup graphic monitors
[20:23] <coz_> pnjh,  and the second transfer?
[20:24] <machine1> hi
[20:24] <coz_> same drive I meant
[20:24] <gumus> I need to transform a subtitle from to utf-8 .Because local letters are not legible at the moment. I used to write a command like  -f iso... -t utf-8  file.srt > file1.srt. But I don't remember it exactly. Can anyone help me with that?
[20:24] <fr0sted> hey all, is there anyway of detecting usb devices and installingthe drivers manually ?
[20:24] <pnjh> coz_: both transfers were from external hard drive (laptop size with usb interface added, to internal sata 6gbps connection hard drive
[20:24] <machine1> if i am trying to set up varnish, and i listen to port 8000 on a non-varnish site (using a vps) does it break all my other domains? or does varnish get skipped over?
[20:25] <garymc> I got one problem you may know how I fix. When I reboot the server dhcp3-server needs to be started each time, why is it not starting on boot?
[20:25] <thomasj73> I fuggered my desktop and can only run in classic mode...  :(  When I log in to "normal" mode, I have no menu's, no nothing, all I can do is right-click or ctrl+alt+del and reboot, can anyone tell me how to get my dektop back?
[20:25] <coz_> pnjh,   mm  and the transfer was to that drive the second time or from that drive?
[20:26] <sparks10> has anyone had gui freezing problems with the latest stable version of ubuntu 64bit? my ubuntu keeps half freezing in the sense that I cannot click on anything through my GUI but the server is responding and applications are still OK
[20:26] <kscloud> OK, need some help, anyone know if there is a bug about Qt apps not working in Oneiric?
[20:26] <pnjh> coz_: I dragged and dropped from external to main hard drive, few days later deleted said folder by mistake, then did exactly the same thing again, except with much slower speed (only difference is that I'm using xfce instead of ubuntu default log in) ...that's xfce4 not the whole xubuntu apt bundle
[20:27] <luc_> hi can anybodytellme how to fix my speakers i have no sound im using a pci ex nvidia card with hdmi audio out thanks
[20:27] <thedangler> ok so i did this to restore my grub. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair.  Now its back but its missing the ubuntu options.
[20:27] <coz_> pnjh,   sounds odd for sure,, usb speeds max at about 21 megs a second I believe,,, could be a caching issue but not sure
[20:27] <justinas> Hm, twidling does not seem to help.
[20:28] <justinas> kyle__: Something else must be happening.
[20:28] <pnjh> coz_: 21mb? I'm complaining at my 34mb currently, I had it at around 120mb+ two days ago
[20:28] <pnjh> and I want it back!!! lol
[20:28] <gumus>  I need to transform a subtitle's code to utf-8 .Because local letters are not legible at the moment. I used to write a command like  -f iso... -t utf-8  file.srt > file1.srt. But I don't remember it exactly. Can anyone help me with that?
[20:28] <coz_> pnjh,  oh!!  now I am confused,, usb2  I believe maxes at 21 megs a second  unless this is usb3
[20:29] <wilhart> what is the program to get twinview in gnome3? without nvidia-settings ?
[20:29] <justinas> gumus: You probably used iconv
[20:29] <coz_> wilhart,   nvidia-settings is the only one I know of
[20:29] <gumus> justinas: yes! How exactly was the proper order ?
[20:29] <wilhart> coz_: hmm how do i install nvidia on gnome3
[20:29] <pnjh> coz_: Yes my bad, this is USB3, and sata 6gbps internal speed.
[20:29] <justinas> gumus: Come on, test yourself. :-)
[20:29] <wilhart> apt-get install nvidia ?
[20:29] <coz_> wilhart,   well open a terminal and type  jockey-gtk
[20:30] <kyle__> justinas: Ahh ok.  Shame.
[20:30] <wilhart> coz_: at root?
[20:30] <coz_> wilhart,  NO
[20:30] <Uno_> I'm trying to install a nowplaying script for xChat and Rhythmbox but I have no idea how to circumvent the Ubuntu installing phase, since I know nothing about directory or any of that.
[20:30] <Uno_> can anyone help?
[20:30] <coz_> wilhart,   unless you want to make this a permanent log in with dual monitors then use  sudo -i   then nvidia-settings
[20:31] <pnjh> "sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-glx nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings "
[20:31] <wilhart> coz_: whats -i ?
[20:31] <wilhart> coz_: aa log :D
[20:31] <freeb0y_sleep> good usenet programs?
[20:31] <coz_>  wilhart,  I use  dynaimic twinview,, which means each time I log in , i have to set dual monitors manually via nvidia settings because I dont always use dual set up
[20:31] <sparks10> pnjh was that directed for me?
[20:31] <coz_> wilhart,  sudo -i is the preferred way of getting to a root terminal
[20:31] <LearnUbuntu> kyle__, i have this in my gdm file but still not working e.g: [greeter] BackgroundType=2 BackgroundImage=1.png BackgroundColor=#000000
[20:32] <coz_> wilhart,  but you use your user password for it
[20:32] <wilhart> coz_: ok
[20:32] <pnjh> sparks10: that was directed at wilhart, my bad for forgetting to address who it was for :)
[20:32] <sparks10> that's alright :P
[20:33] <robin0800> Uno_, scripts for xchat go in home/.xchat2
[20:33] <pnjh> !pastebin
[20:33] <kyle__> LearnUbuntu: background type has to be 1 for image.
[20:33] <gumus> justinas: eheh managed to do ! Thanks
[20:33] <LearnUbuntu> kyle__, yes its ok 2 for the moment just to see if it works. But still solid color is not working either.
[20:33] <Uno_> robin0800, I placed the script there but nothing worked after I restarted xchat
[20:34] <kyle__> LearnUbuntu: Oh.  Humm.
[20:34] <coz_> wilhart,  after installing the driver from jockey-gtk,, use the nvidia_current driver by the way,,, then reboot
[20:34] <luc_> hi
[20:34] <LearnUbuntu> kyle__, its always showing the default wallpaper of 11.04
[20:34] <robin0800> Uno_, whats the script written in?
[20:35] <kyle__> LearnUbuntu: Custom is supposed to override default though.  :/  I dunno what it's doing then, unless we should be doing this in a different file.
[20:35] <coz_> wilhart,   then open nvidia-settings with sudo -i   go to the  "X Server display configuration" make sure both monitors are recognized,,, then click on the secondary monitor,, set the resolution and location,, then click   "Save to X  configuration file"  at the bottom of the dialog
[20:35] <sparks10> has anyone had problems with 10.4 ubuntu desktop gui freezing ( not being able to click on anything ) and eventually locking up system
[20:35] <coz_> wilhart,   I believe that will automatically go into dual monitor set up on next log in
[20:36] <LearnUbuntu> kyle__, some other google search showing mostly like /etc/gdm/presession/Default
[20:36] <Uno_> robin0800, .tar.gz ?
[20:36] <thomasj73> How can I reset Unity back to all default settings?
[20:36] <new2net> in a .tar.gz which compression algr is used first? gzip then tar or the other way around?
[20:36] <robin0800> Uno_, you need to unzip it first
[20:36] <Pici> new2net: tarred, then gzipped.
[20:36] <Uno_> robin0800, I did
[20:37] <pnjh> wilhart: if you have a newer model of nvidia card, adding this to the devices section might add a few more features http://paste.ubuntu.com/684715/
[20:37] <kyle__> new2net: always tar first, then gzip, bzip2, xz.
[20:37] <new2net> Pici: ok, so is tar not really a compression algorithm at all- it's just a container to put a bunch of files into 1 file?
[20:37] <Uno_> robin0800, now it's .pl
[20:38] <Pici> new2net: indeed.
[20:38] <thomasj73> nm unity --reset did it :)
[20:39] <Enissay> Hey guys, can anyone explains to me please how to share internet between ubuntu and vista please...
[20:40] <robin0800> Uno_, that's a perl script then and should work
[20:40] <Jordan_U> Enissay: http://magazine.redhat.com/2008/10/16/video-fedora-10-connection-sharing/
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Enissay: Assuming you want to share a connection from Ubuntu to Vista and not the other way around.
[20:42] <Enissay> Jordan_U, yes its the way u said... thanks for the link... I'll tell u what :)
[20:42] <Jordan_U> Enissay: You're welcome :)
[20:43] <sparks10> does anyone know off hand if there is a way to stop a mdadm resync with ubuntu?
[20:43]  * FreeNET re
[20:43] <Uno_> robin0800, that sucks :[
[20:45] <hikenboot> will ubuntu run from flash memory?
[20:45] <Uno_> how do I run the directory? I found a similar script and I'm going to try it instead.
[20:45] <fabiobik> hello guys i have an usb card alfa awuso36h and i want to set to full power
[20:45] <fabiobik> my distro is debian but ubuntu is debian based
[20:45] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. Please ow do I make a kernel version load all te time (i.e by default)?? Here's ow it all started... When I installed ubuntu natty everyting worked fine, but after sometime i could no longer hibernate. When my machine tries to hibernate it goes into some sort of lock mode with two lights blinking (num lock and caps lock icons on my keyboard). So I came on here and someone suggested that I change the kernel version by holding shif
[20:46] <hikenboot> fabiobik: you would have the most luck in #debian
[20:46] <coz_> fabiobik,  but its likely you would get more information on t his in #debian than here
[20:46] <hikenboot> there's an echo in here
[20:46] <coz_> fabiobik,  they would have more resources to deal with debian specific issues than we would
[20:46] <pnjh> there's an echo in here
[20:46] <fabiobik> okay
[20:47] <fabiobik> coz_, thks anyway
[20:47] <hikenboot> ok I found a usb installer never mind and thanks
[20:47] <coz_> fabiobik,  no problem,,, next time  dont say it's debian un less it's absolutely necessary,,, however,, debian uses "stable" libraries  and would know more about how to solve this than this channel as I mentioned
[20:48] <fabiobik> coz_,  sure
[20:48] <Jordan_U> coz_: It
[20:48] <wh1zz0> coz_: Sup... thanks for the other day.. I now have the effects working perfectly, was too scared to try the cube
[20:49] <Jordan_U> coz_: ...  Please don't suggest that people do so.
[20:49] <coz_> wh1zz0,  excellent :)
[20:49] <wh1zz0> coz_: Buh I have the fire burn working perfectly
[20:49] <coz_> Jordan_U,  yes I thought that would be an issue  ,, thanks for pointing that out
[20:49] <coz_> wh1zz0,  cool
[20:49] <wh1zz0> :D
[20:49] <nucc1> does anyone happen to have a copy of COOoder handy? the download site is down http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/coooder
[20:50] <nucc1> and I'd like a copy
[20:51] <coz_> nucc1,   tell me when it has downloaded so I can delete it    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/coooder.tar.gz
[20:51] <LearnUbuntu> $sudo gdmsetup ; also does not allow to change it?
[20:52] <derp_> Where is the Ubuntu script that runs on user login to the desktop?
[20:52] <machine1> if i am trying to set up varnish, and i listen to port 8000 on a non-varnish site (using a vps) does it break all my other domains? or does varnish get skipped over?
[20:52] <Enissay> Jordan_U, the problem is that my ubuntu is connected via wireless, when I create a new wireless network it disconnects from internet! so noway to continue...
[20:52] <Uno_> how do I connect to the xChat directory to past plugins?
[20:52] <coz_> nucc1,  did you get that?
[20:53] <eein> is there a way to set a static dns in /etc/resolv.conf while enabling dhcp client?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Enissay: Why do you need to share the internet connection? How are you trying to connect the Ubuntu machine to the Windows machine?
[20:53] <nucc1> coz_, got it
[20:53] <nucc1> thanks
[20:53] <coz_> nucc1,  no problem
[20:53] <eein> from what i see /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten by the dhcp leasing server
[20:54] <Enissay> Jordan_U, there's a mac adress filter, so I can only access to the internet using my ubuntu!
[20:56] <Enissay> & I want to share the connection using a wire... I just bought one (cross over cable)
[20:56] <guntbert> Uno_: why don't you ask in #xchat?
[20:57] <Uno_> #xchat
[20:57] <Uno_> I didn't know a channel as such existed, sorry
[20:58] <Jordan_U> Enissay: Then create the shared connection on the Wired interface. The video isn't directly applicable to your situation but it shows the conecept and I expect you'll be able to figure out how to share to ethernet rather than wireless on your own. If not, feel free to ask further questions though :)
[20:58] <Arkados> hi, I'm looking for a way to create folders with bash script in hex count  (mkdir 00 mkdir 01 mkdir 02 and so on, until mkdir ff ): an idea on how to do this ? :/
[20:58] <guntbert> Uno_: no worries, I didn't want to sound harsh :)
[20:59] <Phoenix87> re
[20:59] <kyle__> Is anyone here using a usb device to tune and watch atsc tv (north american digital broadcast)?
[21:03] <kyle__> Arkados: Many ways of doing it.    I don't have sound for startup or media, but youtube and ZSNES work
[21:04] <derp_> Where should I put a line of bash that need to run as root on user login?
[21:05] <kyle__> Arkados: OK.  So do you know the seq command?
[21:05] <B0g4r7> How can I change my "host name" in natty?
[21:05] <B0g4r7> user@user-virtual-machine:~$
[21:05] <B0g4r7> That host name.
[21:05] <Arkados> didn't know it before kyle__ , gonna RTFM :)
[21:06] <Enissay> Jordan_U, there's a little problem, I fired network manager a long time ago, and I'm using wicd who doesnt seems to be able to do that !
[21:06] <kyle__> Arkados: More or less, use seq and printf.
[21:07] <lindi-> should the "create usb installation stick on ubuntu" instructions at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download work without admin privileges? I'm reading the policykit profile for usb-creator package and it seems to me that it asks a password. if that is the case, should the web page mention that?
[21:07] <fishscene> Does anyone know of free/opensource software that does something similar to MRTG? http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/
[21:07] <Jordan_U> Enissay: I can't help you then.
[21:07] <B0g4r7> lol.../etc/hostname.  Well, that was easy.
[21:07] <Arkados> ok thanks kyle__  :)
[21:07] <kyle__> Arkados: I banged it out quick on my console, and could share, but it will be good for your console-kung-foo skills to do this on your own.
[21:08] <lindi-> fishscene: munin at least. see for example http://munin.openstreetmap.org/ in action
[21:08] <fishscene> ok, Thanks!
[21:08] <Enissay> Jordan_U, what if I reinstalled it... could please help me through that... how to install NM and fire correctly wicd
[21:08] <B0g4r7> OK, here's another one.  Say I execute 'sudo foo > bar', why does bar end up owned by the user ant not by root?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> lindi-: They should not work without admin privileges but when followed from a liveCD environment no password will be asked. Have you seen anyone have problems following the directions because they don't mention entering your password?
[21:09] <lindi-> B0g4r7: ">" is managed by your shell before sudo is even executed
[21:09] <Enissay> Jordan_U, well, I'll do it using synaptic
[21:09] <lindi-> Jordan_U: no, I'm just trying to understand how this works
[21:09] <B0g4r7> So, uh, what's a proper way to have bar be written by root?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> Enissay: It depends on how you "fired" network-manager. If you just removed the package then re-installing it should get it back.
[21:09] <Rickard42> Hello
[21:10] <B0g4r7> sudo -i?  Or is there a better method?
[21:10] <Rickard42> How comes i can not make use of my large usb-stick ? - i wanna put a portable ubuntu on it and have lots of space for applications and settings, but i'm not allowed to use above 4GB for the persistant file, and the stick is a 16GB one..
[21:10] <lindi-> B0g4r7: sudo sh -c 'echo foo > bar'
[21:10] <Jordan_U> !hostname | B0g4r7
[21:10] <Jordan_U> B0g4r7: echo foo | sudo tee /path/to/file
[21:10] <Serraphyn> is this a place to ask about doing software development in ubuntu or should i do that in -ot channel?
[21:10] <B0g4r7> 'k, thx.
[21:11] <lindi-> Jordan_U: anyways, thanks for confirming that it needs admin privileges
[21:11] <lindi-> Jordan_U: I thought I found a security bug in usb-creator :)
[21:11] <Jordan_U> lindi-: You're welcome :)
[21:11] <robin0800> Serraphyn, there's a ubuntu-dev channel
[21:12] <Jordan_U> Serraphyn: Better in -ot, and they will possibly steer you toward a better channel depending on your actual needs.
[21:12] <Rickard42> anyone able to help me?
[21:12] <Serraphyn> Thanks
[21:13] <kryl> hi
[21:13] <IWantFroyo> kryl, hi
[21:13] <kryl> please how to test if a zone is registered  from command line ?
[21:13] <Rickard42> anyone able to help me?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> robin0800: #ubuntu-devel is for discussion between those developing Ubuntu itself, the topic specifically states that it is not for those just looking to develop software for Ubuntu.
[21:14] <IWantFroyo> Rickard42: Please post your question. Repeatedly saying the same thing won't help.
[21:14] <wh1zz0> Anyone know how I can make an older kernel version boot all the time without having to select it everytime during boot?
[21:14] <Rickard42> How comes i can not make use of my large usb-stick ? - i wanna put a portable ubuntu on it and have lots of space for applications and settings, but i'm not allowed to use above 4GB for the persistant file, and the stick is a 16GB one..
[21:15] <Jordan_U> Rickard42: I would recommend doing a normal Ubuntu install rather than using a persistant Live install.
[21:15] <IWantFroyo> Rickard42, Are you sure it isn't talking about the Ubuntu / partition? You might want to manually edit the partitions yourself, filling up the rest of the space with /home.
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Rickard42: Among other things Live installs, even persistant ones, cannot be properly updated.
[21:16] <Rickard42> I don't know; but without a persistant file, i won't be able to save changes or?
[21:16] <Marcel> Alright maybe someone has this same issue as me
[21:16] <Marcel> I am just trying to get ubuntu live to boot off a usb drive
[21:16] <Rickard42> It's rather confusing
[21:17] <Jordan_U> !details | Marcel
[21:17] <Marcel> ive tried this, format to fat32, then used various suggested program(on windows), to install live cd to the usb for booting
[21:18] <Matty502> I have an issue, want details of it?
[21:18] <Matty502> Did you use unetbootin?
[21:18] <Marcel> usb-creator, unetbootin, universal usb installer
[21:18] <Matty502> That's what I used
[21:18] <Marcel> The one time I was able to get it to boot, it did something very funky
[21:19] <Matty502> I had some funky results for a while
[21:19] <Marcel> It paused on a line that started with "Net:" for several minutes
[21:19] <Matty502> I think I tried Live and it didn't work
[21:19] <Matty502> Try another type
[21:19] <Marcel> which do you suggest?
[21:19] <Rickard42> Ahhhhh...........               ......crap.........                         ...darn floody channel............
[21:19] <Matty502> What are your options?
[21:19] <Chotaz> for some reason ubuntu 9.04 isnt detecting a usb flash drive I've just plugged in
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Marcel: Please write your entire comment in one line rather than splitting it up into multiple comments. It's difficult to follow otherwise.
[21:20] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Ubuntu 9.04 is no longer supported. Please Upgrade.
[21:21] <Chotaz> Jordan_U:  no channel for older support?
[21:21] <Marcel> I'm using 11.04 desktop amd64 iso image trying to make it boot from a usb drive, followed the wiki and various other sources one at a time, have had no luck. The one time I was able to get it to boot no applications would launch(Install-ubuntu would not open either).
[21:21] <erkan^> !gnome-do
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Correct. Why not upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04?
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Marcel: How much RAM do you have?
[21:22] <Marcel> 4gb
[21:22] <Chotaz> Jordan_U: because I'm just running ubuntu to try to reformat a flash drve I'm having trouble acessing due to being formated in a mac specific partition I believe
[21:23] <Matty502> Marcel: Live will download from the internet as you're installing, iirc.  There's a better option while you're putting it onto the flash, though I don't remember which one.
[21:23] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Unfortunately 9.04 is simply not supported here.
[21:23] <stwange> next question, does anyone know how to export the current monitor configuration to something I could run as a bash script? Ubuntu has an annoying habit of resetting it about 2 minutes after logging in
[21:23] <stwange> ignore the next question part, that was pasted :)
[21:23] <Marcel> Matty502: well i think that one is called minimal
[21:24] <Chotaz> Jordan_U:  thanks for the help tho, I'm gonna search for my 11.04 CD and boot from ti then I'll be back again :) I jsut grabbed the first I found :
[21:24] <Chotaz> :)
[21:24] <Matty502> I don't remember minimal being an option, Marcel
[21:24] <Marcel> minimal is the one that downloads from the internet
[21:25] <Jordan_U> Marcel: Did you verify the md5sum of the iso? Are you sure that the flash drive is good?
[21:26] <Marcel> ive tried 2 seperate drives, not sure how i would verify the drives are fine
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Marcel: If you have the same problem with multiple drives then that's not likely the problem. Did you verify the iso?
[21:27] <Marcel> i tried two disk images as well
[21:27] <Marcel> dont have md5 sum program on hand the machine is offline now
[21:27] <Matty502> I'd simply try clicking another option
[21:28] <Chotaz> Jordan_U I'm on 11.04 now, the drive still isnt detected and automounted.
[21:28] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[21:29] <Marcel> which disk image should i download?
[21:29] <DeltaEpsilon> can I have two firefox window open with different profiles?
[21:29] <s5s> Hi guys. I'm trying to install libcurl-dev but with no luck. I'm on maverick and the libcurl4-dev and the other libcurl packages are not real packages
[21:29] <s5s> they point to libcurl4-gnutls-dev  but still no dough getting the headers
[21:29] <Chotaz> Jordan_U: right after plugging in the drive, or It just doesn't matter?
[21:29] <jrib> s5s: what does "no dough" mean?
[21:30] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Right after would be better, but any time after is OK.
[21:30] <jrib> s5s: and why do you want this package?
[21:30] <Chotaz> no luck I guess
[21:30] <jrib> !away > cereal|Away
[21:30] <s5s> jrib: does it matter why I want the package? I need it for development obviously :\
[21:30] <DeltaEpsilon> can I have two firefox window open with different profiles?
[21:30] <luc_> hi can anybody helpme with no sound im running 11.04ubn and  nvidia pci exp hdmi audio out to tv
[21:31] <Marcel> where can i find the md5 sum?
[21:31] <jrib> s5s: yes, I ask because often people ask because they are compiling a package in the repositories and are not aware of APT. I just wanted to rule that out
[21:31] <Jordan_U> !md5sums | Marcel
[21:31] <mitchell> luc_: do u have any speakers hooked up?
[21:31] <anthony__> how do i download utorrent
[21:31] <anthony__> never installed on ubuntu before
[21:32] <s5s> jrib: yeah. I'm using aptitude but for some reason curl-config --cflags shows nothing (it's supposed to show where the headers are)
[21:32] <luc_> no  imusing the tv speakers
[21:32] <Chotaz> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/hKVcujAM
[21:33] <erkan^> !anki
[21:33] <mitchell> luc_: you said you are using hdmi output/input correct?
[21:33] <luc_> yes
[21:33] <mitchell> luc_: what have you tried so far?
[21:33] <Enissay> Jordan_U, It is working now, thanks so much for your help :)
[21:33] <Marcel> ok well once it re downloads i will check the md5
[21:34] <Jordan_U> Enissay: You're welcome :)
[21:34] <s5s> jrib: I think I found it. Strange the curl-config is broken I think. IT's supposed to show /usr/include/curl/
[21:34] <propman> DeltaEpsilon:  should be able to by using the profile parameter     firefox -P  <profile name>  or    firefox -ProfileManager.      see  firefox --help
[21:34] <jrib> s5s: right, I was going to say that installing the -dev package you mentioned earlier should drop the files in /usr/include/curl
[21:34] <jasonrsmith> how do you make sure sun-jave-6-sdk installed correctly?
[21:35] <jrib> s5s: note that pkg-config --libs libcurl also returns an empty line
[21:35] <luc_> the ckeck list on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[21:35] <jasonrsmith> jave -version?
[21:35] <jasonrsmith> java
[21:35] <jrib> s5s: sorry, I meant pkg-config --cflags libcurl
[21:35] <Mission_Control> hellote?
[21:36] <s5s> jrib: hmm
[21:36] <Chotaz> Jordan_U:  I see the device brand and model appear at least 3 tiems on the bottom of the content of that apstebin, I just don't know what to do with the rest of the info
[21:36] <Marcel> what should i format the drive to fat 32?
[21:36] <jrib> s5s: I have never use libcurl.  You are certain there needs to be something returned here?
[21:36] <Mission_Control> I have two graphics cards running on my system but I can only use one
[21:37] <Mission_Control> the monitors I have attached to the second graphics card doesn't seem to work
[21:37] <Marcel> md5 sum matches
[21:38] <jrib> s5s: my guess is this blank output is ok as gcc should check /usr/include/ by default, no?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Is that the complete dmesg output?
[21:40] <Chotaz> yes, I will recheck
[21:40] <Chotaz> Jordan_U: yes it is, I just rechecked
[21:42] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Can you pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a"?
[21:44] <austin> hello
[21:44] <Marcel> it must have been that pc or a bad image file, i redownloaded an confirmed the md5sum and it works fine now =/
[21:44] <Guest47911> how do i tell what bit system i am i have
[21:44] <Guest47911> not the software but hardware
[21:44] <Chotaz> Jordan_U:  http://pastebin.com/nHvCQrk2
[21:45] <Guest47911> i dont think thats what i wanted xD'
[21:45] <Bry8Star2g> what is the official channel of Webmin control panel ?
[21:46] <Guest47911> no idea
[21:46] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: And the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[21:47] <javier_> hi, i cannot connect evolution. Evolution believes internet connection is not available, but it is. Any idea?
[21:48] <Chotaz> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/vH6svHWr
[21:48] <usr13> javier_: Are you using a proxy server?
[21:48] <javier_> no
[21:49] <javier_> usr13: no, I'm not
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: None of the drives listed there seem to be using an Apple Partition Map so I think you can rule out that being the problem.
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Does the drive you're interested in appear to be listed there?
[21:50] <Chotaz> Jordan_U:  yes, it is that SanDisk Cruzer with 16GB I believe
[21:50] <Chotaz> Jordan_U: I rather sure because its the only 16GB flash drive listed there.
[21:50] <Chotaz> .I'm
[21:50] <ksx4system> can i securely disable ATA/ATAPI/MFM while compiling a kernel? i want to run it on my netbook, 100% sata based
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Parted wasn't able to detect any filesystem on the partition on that drive. Parted understands hfsplus (used by OSX) and most other filesystems so that most likely means that there isn't a valid filesystem there. Could it or the partition table have been corrupted somehow?
[21:51] <usr13> javier_: What is the exact error message?
[21:51] <marco> hi everyone
[21:52] <erkan^> have another more programs than anki on linux?
[21:52] <Guest26738> yes
[21:52] <erkan^> which?
[21:52] <Chotaz> Jordan_U:  well my windows laptop tells me I have to format the drive everytime I try to access it, sO im starting to think that is the case, is there anything esle I can try to get it mounted or atleast access somehow the files stored on the dvice?
[21:52] <Guest26738> u mother
[21:52] <javier_> usr13: Not even an error message. I open evolution, and it's open,  but won't do a thing. Can't receive mails or send because it's disconnected
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> javier_: there's an option 'work offline'
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> javier_: i think it's in 'File'
[21:53] <ksx4system> can i securely disable ATA/ATAPI/MFM while compiling a kernel? i want to run it on my netbook, 100% sata based
[21:54] <javier_> i was looking for that. But only thing I find is the opposite, work online, but it's disabled and can't use it
[21:54] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: When did you last use the drive? If it's just a problem with the partition table then testdisk might be able to fix it, and if not then photorec (which comes with the testdisk package) may still be able to recover some files.
[21:54] <ppetraki> ksx4system, pretty sure SATA depends on that support, so no.
[21:55] <Guest26738> for free sex -> contact me in pvt
[21:56] <zHammeRz> Never a dull moment!
[21:57] <Chotaz> Jordan_U: it was given to me this way a friend of mine used it to pass me some files for a uni work
[21:59] <javier_> usr13: i was looking for that. But only thing I find is the opposite, work online, but it's disabled and can't use it
[22:00] <Chotaz> Jordan_U:  how do I install that package?
[22:01] <Krawnsbie> I need to tether my ubuntu desktop to my ubuntu laptop so I can get drivers on my desktop. Is there an easy way to do this?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Chotaz: Use Ubuntu Software Center or "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install testdisk"
[22:04] <_cb> Installed webmin on 11.04 server and found out that it wants root account (locked in ubuntu) and password. Should I unlock root account or is there other way to use webmin?
[22:05] <rww> !webmin
[22:05] <_cb> bummer, are there ubuntu supported alternatives to webmin?
[22:06] <javier_> still with a problem in Evolution: I cannot get it to work online. Doesn't detect that is connected to internet. Any ideas?
[22:09] <Krawnsbie> I need to tether my ubuntu desktop to my ubuntu laptop so I can get drivers on my desktop. Is there an easy way to do this?
[22:10] <Nekrietns> FF ?DCC SEND "ff???f??????????????" 0 0 0
[22:10] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users.   This is IRC, juvinile, yes, but supposed to be more mature than a /. thread.
[22:13] <rww> kyle__: troll infestation, best to ignore it.
[22:14] <javier_> how can I reinstall evolution?
[22:15] <utusan> javier_, aptitude reinstall evolution
[22:15] <utusan> javier_, just prefix sudo
[22:18] <javier_> evolution only works offline. Someone knows what can be happening?
[22:19] <_cb> I want to set up an Active Directory print/server like setup using Ubuntu server for XP and ubuntu clients. Is Samba + Open LDAP the correct approach?
[22:19] <jamesw> time zone in gnome clock applet - anyone know how?
[22:19] <xangua> jamesw: no more time clock applet, there is a time indicator now
[22:19] <jamesw> location based gnome time?
[22:19] <thomasj73> Woohoo! Gnome3 is purty!
[22:20] <jamesw> gah, okay, please substitute my wording for the new indicator
[22:20] <thomasj73> Fuggered my Unity and couldn't get it back to rights so I installed Gnome3...  man it's sweet!
[22:20] <_cb> javier_ when you click on file does it say work offline or work online?
[22:21] <javier_> _cd: only work online option, but can't press it, because it's dissabled
[22:21] <utusan> thomas__, gnome3?  unity is gnome3
[22:21] <utusan> thomasj73,  gnome3?  unity is gnome3
[22:22] <zHammeRz> truth...unity is the shell base for gnome3 :)
[22:22] <powera> how much swap size with 4gb? or without swap?
[22:22] <thomasj73> utusan, well, the default config of it that comes with Ubuntu Wally I screwed up royally and couldn't get it back to normal :(
[22:23] <rga> test
[22:23] <jamesw> xangua: do you know how to show gmt indicator in time zone applet?
[22:23] <thomasj73> utusan, so I had to download something else...  now, i believe, I should be able to do sudo apt-get remove unity | apt-get install unity (or something along those lines anyways)
[22:23] <xangua> jamesw: i no longet use applets, only indicators
[22:24] <jamesw> xangua: do you know how to show gmt indicator in time zone indicator?
[22:24] <jamesw> lol
[22:24] <xangua> :S
[22:24] <jamesw> or time zone i should say
[22:25] <thomasj73> CompizConfig == Evil (If yer a noob like me!) lol
[22:25] <keithb> thomasj73: agreed, it is not user friendly
[22:26] <_cb> javier_ and the same computer you are on now? Connected to the internet?
[22:26] <javier_> _cb: yes, that's it
[22:26] <thomasj73> So, I guess my question is, can I do sudo apt-get remove Unity | sudo apt-get install Unity to repair my unity shell?
[22:26] <Jordan_U> thomasj73: Try "unity --reset".
[22:27] <thomasj73> Jordan_U, I tried that, it gets to a certain point and hangs forever
[22:27] <thomasj73> Jordan_U, Do I have to be logged into or out of the session I am trying to repair?
[22:28] <Jordan_U> thomasj73: I would expect that you'd need to be in the session you're trying to repair. And the command is expected to "hang" as unity will continue running.
[22:29] <thomasj73> Jordan_U, Ok, I will have to try to get into term in the Shell, I have no menu's, no icons, not anything.  All I can do is ctrl+alt+del
[22:30] <_cb> javier_ if you do edit-->preferences what is on your mail account?
[22:30] <javier_> _cb: maybe evolution is checking for an internet connection in "network manager" while I'm using "wicd". Could this be? I hid network manager indicator, do you know how can I get it back in order use it to check if it changes something?
[22:30] <Jordan_U> thomasj73: ctlr+alt+F1, log in, run "DISPLAY=:0.0 unity --reset", ctlr+alt+F7 (possibly some other number like F8 or F9).
[22:30] <Matty502> I have no sound in startup or media players, but youtube and XSNES work alright.  Made a thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1840020
[22:31] <Matty502> If anyone can help~
[22:31] <thomasj73> Jordan_U, Thank you for your help!  I'll give that a shot!
[22:32] <Jordan_U> thomasj73: You're welcome.
[22:32] <_cb> javier_ I am not familiar with wicd so not sure if that could be root cause
[22:32] <thomasj73> I've only been running Ubuntu for 4 day's now, I was sure I'd fugger something up quick
[22:32] <javier_> _cb: in preferences there is: activated clicked, the name of my account, default clicked and imap
[22:33] <javier_> _cb: but you know how to get to network manager (default ubuntu network manager) after I dissabled the indicator? or how to get the indicator back=
[22:33] <javier_> ?
[22:33] <xangua> Matty502: does sound work on live cd¿
[22:34] <Marcel> im learning how to compile the linux kernel and install it along with a bootloader(grub2) from scratch, fun stuff
[22:34] <_cb> javier_ sorry, no. I suspect that your hunch about wicd is correct. Probably something there is leading evolution to believe it is not connected. One other place to check is edit->preferences->network
[22:35] <Marcel> why is it windows is so dominant in the market of consumer pc's?
[22:35] <xangua> !ot | Marcel
[22:35] <trevs> i'm running an instance of ubuntu server 10.04, but have to modprobe for my network eth0 to work
[22:35]  * thomasj73 fears the split
[22:35] <xait9> anyone know the ubuntu development and ubuntu software development channels?
[22:35] <Phoenix87> bye
[22:35] <trevs> unfortunately that means on boot i need to manually run dhclient, which means i can't reset the server remotely
[22:36] <trevs> how do I fix that?
[22:36] <Matty502> xangua: I don't have a CD ROM
[22:36] <kyle__> Matty502: Then your bluray reader.
[22:37] <Matty502> I don't have anything that takes a disk
[22:37] <Matty502> It's a netbook
[22:38] <javier_> someone knows how to use ubuntu's default network manager if I hid the indicator?
[22:38] <test34> Matty502, can you boot from USB ?
[22:38] <Matty502> test34: yeah, why is that relevant?
[22:38] <xangua> javier_: don't hide inditacor ;)
[22:38] <eein> javier_: sudo NetworkManager from CLI
[22:38] <xangua> Matty502: because why in first place you needed to install some alsa stuff¿
[22:39] <Matty502> For pSX
[22:39] <javier_> eein: i get "NetworkManager is already running". But how to see it, to open it?
[22:39] <test34> Matty502, instead of a live CD maybe you can use a live USB ?
[22:39] <Matty502> Should I just remove ALSA altogether, since that's where my problems started?
[22:40] <eein> oh yeah nm it will still run as a PID even though it isnt showing
[22:41] <Layke> Is there a wine channel? I want to know if it is possible to run certain Steam games on Ubuntu
[22:42] <thomasj73> Woohoo! Back in Unity shell!
[22:42] <morenotta> Olaa xD
[22:42] <thomasj73> Jordan_U, thank you!  Back in Unity Shell!
[22:43] <Jordan_U> thomasj73: You're welcome :)
[22:46] <yeats> !wine | Layke
[22:46] <Layke> Cheers yeats
[22:48] <javier_> some help me bringing back networkmanager indicator? (ubuntu 11.04)
[22:49] <SaladMASTER> hello
[22:52] <agentgasmask> I'm trying to get SPDIF "Digital audio" out working. Please help! I've looked at http://alsa.opensrc.org/DigitalOut but following that still leaves me with no sound.
[22:52] <xangua> javier_: tried to reset unity¿ : unity --reset
[22:58] <Monotoko> I just installed Ubuntu to a memory stick (my HDD failed - another one is coming soon) and set aside 3000mb persistence in unetbootin, if I reboot after installing things, will they now stay?
[22:58] <Monotoko> or is it just my home area?
[22:58] <urist_> hi... I am new to ubuntu and I'm currently looking for an open source tracking software for videos. Basically I work in a behavioral psychology lab and we do a lot of watching animals move in mazes and things like that, but I would be much happier if a lot of this information could be automated
[22:59] <urist_> does anyone know of any application that does something along those lines?
[22:59] <test34> urist_, you are looking for more then just motion detection?
[23:00] <urist_> yeah, something that could detect where an animal is at different points in time
[23:00] <qin> Monotoko: Stay.
[23:00] <Monotoko> quin, thank you! :)
[23:00] <urist_> even better if it could tell body orientation and things like that
[23:00] <test34> urist_, sorry cant help..
[23:01] <urist_> yeah. something tells me there is probably not enough people interested in such app to  warrant writing something like that
[23:02] <urist_> I figured with a lot of attention now with kinetic and those other video trackers there may be something available for linux
[23:02] <qin> urist_: This reminds me someones python script for puplis tracking.
[23:02] <test34> urist_, but it should be fairly easy to write something using OpenCV: http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/
[23:02] <urist_> i'll take a look
[23:03] <urist_> my programming skills are rather undevelopped but I'm always up to challenges
[23:03] <fishscene> Microsoft Kinect for the 360?
[23:03] <urist_> fishscene, yeah somehting along those lines
[23:03] <urist_> it would be similar technology
[23:03] <urist_> probably even simpler really
[23:03] <test34> you need only 2D right?
[23:04] <urist_> yeah only 2d
[23:04] <urist_> usually we can track animals from above
[23:04] <test34> kinect would be overkill but if there is an existing app it might be worth it
[23:05] <urist_> yeah, I've used apps on windows but they tend to cost 9-10k for something basic
[23:05] <urist_> if you want multiple tracking they can easy get up to 20k
[23:06] <grillermo> i got two screens(extended desktop) and the second is widescreen standing on its side, so i told ubuntu that its vertical, it works fine, but the wallpaper area of the first horizontal smaller one, goes all the way down to the size of the vertical one
[23:06] <grillermo> the problem is, that the icons in my desktop go to the hidden area
[23:08] <test34> urist_, do you need muiltiple tracking? can they cross paths?
[23:08] <urist_> i dont need multiple tracking but it would be nice, no they wouldn't cross paths if I did
[23:09] <urist_> usually the need for multiple tracking comes from using one camera to monitor 4-8 animals at once
[23:09] <test34> in separate  mazes ?
[23:09] <urist_> but each animal is confined to a closed arena
[23:09] <fabiobik> does anyone knows an solution to convert my laptop wireless card into an acess point?
[23:09] <test34> ok
[23:09] <fabiobik> to connect my android?
[23:10] <fabiobik> share internet
[23:10] <urist_> test34, yes, sorry i was vague
[23:10] <test34> fabiobik, search for ad hoc wifi
[23:10] <fabiobik> test34, search were?
[23:10] <fabiobik> test34, software center?
[23:11] <HisRoyalFreshnes> Anyone use Qmmp?
[23:11] <test34> fabiobik, web search engine
[23:11] <HisRoyalFreshnes> If so, how would you rate it and what would you recommend as a media player to a Linux noob
[23:12] <qin> HisRoyalFreshnes: vlc
[23:12] <iasov> ^^^
[23:12] <test34> urist_, Motion Analysis and Object Tracking: http://opencv.willowgarage.com/documentation/cpp/motion_analysis_and_object_tracking.html
[23:12] <ferdinando> salve
[23:13] <urist_> test34, im just on the wiki you indicated, just trying to read more about it... how did u find this?
[23:14] <fabiobik> test34, i guess ad hoc wifi is not what i need
[23:14] <fabiobik> because android cant detect ad hoc netwroks...
[23:15] <test34> urist_, I used OpenCV before... but you can find it using this: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=computer+vision+open+source
[23:15] <balevine> Want to determine what version of libxml2 I'm running.  Is this done via apt-get?
[23:16] <test34> fabiobik, maybe you need to root your android device to be able to use an adhoc network
[23:16] <javier_> i dissabled network indicator in ubuntu 11.04. How could i get it back?
[23:16] <rww> balevine: apt-cache policy libxml2
[23:16] <thedangler> my ubuntu grub is missing, In the grub i pressed e is there anyway to get it to show it from this grub editor?  I tried restoring it from the liveCD but that didn't seem to work
[23:16] <urist_> test34, well thank you very much I'll look into this. If i can't find something already made I'll probably try to get my hands dirty and work with this tool.... that was very helpful
[23:16] <balevine> rww: Very helpful thank you!
[23:18] <test34> urist_, no problem and good luck
[23:18] <urist_> tks
[23:20] <Baribal> Hi. What tools to help creating HTML and CSS are there? Also, support for Django templates would be appreciated.
[23:20] <_cb> Am planning on setting up a Samba + Open LDAP server to provide AD like functionality. First I will need to configure a DNS server. If I want my clients to first query the local DNS and then the ISP dns how do I set it up?
[23:22] <Monotoko> how screwed is my hard drive? SMART says normalized: 72, worst: 72, Threshold: 10, value: 264 under "Reallocated Sector Count" ... does this mean it's going to fail within a few days, or a few months or what? and can I just...not use...those sectors?
[23:23] <erez_> שלום
[23:24] <erez_> אפשר עזרה במשהו?
[23:24] <FloodBot1> erez_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <erez_> hii
[23:24] <erez_> can i ask your help?
[23:25] <erez_> i have a very strange prob
[23:25] <Baribal> erez_, please don't ask to ask, just ask.
[23:25] <propman> erez: just type in your question and if someone can help they will reply
[23:25] <crash1hd> ok what happened to my ubuntu? I rebooted and now I have this bar on the left that looks like a mac wtf
[23:25] <JRWR> On Ubuntu 11.04, Running OpenLDP and Apache2 using SVN/WebDav setup, In Firefox, I can auth fine to the server (LDAP Authz) in svn I can auth, but I cannot mount the WebDav as a drive in windows 7, It refuses to accept the login details, Site Config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/684801/ - Access.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/684802/ - error.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/684803/
[23:25] <Baribal> crash1hd, did you do a dist-upgrade?
[23:25] <erez_> ?
[23:26] <crash1hd> Baribal, no idea I just hit update
[23:26] <crash1hd> lol I know thats bad to not know
[23:27] <robin0800> crash1hd, you can choose classic at the login screen
[23:27] <rulhop> crash1hd: you probably upgraded from 10.?? to 11.04, that's Unity
[23:28] <erez_> someone??
[23:28] <rulhop> erez_: just ask your question
[23:29] <MIchael_p> hi all is there away to partion the main hdd
[23:29] <gentoo-intel> MIchael_p, yes
[23:30] <mneptok> MIchael_p: sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:30] <erez_> anyone?
[23:31] <crash1hd> ok I didnt realize my chat client had froze lol Baribal if you sent anything I didnt get it :(
[23:31] <robin0800> MIchael_p, you cant do it if its mounted you will need some form of live cd
[23:31] <rulhop> erez_: you haven't asked a question yet
[23:31] <yeats> !he
[23:31] <mneptok> !ask | erez_
[23:31] <Baribal> erez_, you still seem to not have asked any question.
[23:31] <Baribal> erez_, So don't expect answers.
[23:31] <DanielDerGrosse> just about to experience ubuntu its the first time i use a linux distribution
[23:32] <crash1hd> Is there a way to change my ubuntu back before updating?
[23:32] <crash1hd> I dont mind the new but it seems to be using up a lot more resources :(
[23:33] <rulhop> crash1hd: you can choose "Ubuntu Classic" at the login screen
[23:33] <robin0800> crash1hd, you can choose classic at the login screen
[23:33] <crash1hd> ok I have it autologin so I didnt know thanks :)
[23:33] <kdog> DanielDerGrosse, welcome!
[23:34] <vojure> hi guys, anyone know any good commandline twitter clients?
[23:34] <rawfodog> hey I'm having troubles with the mameGUI front end in the software repo. I was wondering if any of you have had better luck using mame on 11.04
[23:37] <rulhop> vojure: have you tried twitter-cmdline?
[23:37] <zykotick9> rawfodog, i have no idea about 11.04 specifically (never used it), but I'd recommend you try and find a version of sdlmame for ubuntu, xmame is no longer supported.  Good luck.
[23:38] <vojure> rulhop: no haven't tried it, any good?
[23:38] <erez_> so..
[23:38] <rawfodog> k thanks zykotick9
[23:38] <rulhop> vojure: i haven't tried it, just read about it
[23:38] <erez_> i try to get alsa and pulseaudio to work
[23:38] <erez_> i hear sound only from hydrogen..
[23:39] <erez_> so i followed this guide..
[23:39] <BarkingFish> Does ubottu have any information about where logs are kept for different things?
[23:39] <vojure> rulhop: thanks, i'll check it out
[23:39] <BarkingFish> I've just had a major system crash which I want to pastebin the stack from, and don't know where to find the stack
[23:40] <erez_> and after trying to open "default sound card" without success i figured out that the files are empty
[23:40] <erez_> both $ asoundconf and asoundrc
[23:41] <erez_> why? and how to make my sound work? i'm using ubuntu 11.04
[23:41] <erez_> i better off configuring oss?
[23:42] <ChogyDan> erez_: I think those programs are for alsa.  Ubuntu uses pulseaudio
[23:42] <gentoo-intel> afaik ubuntu dont even support oss any more
[23:42] <erez_> ?
[23:42] <erez_> anyone?
[23:42] <gentoo-intel> you dont need asoundrc btw
[23:42] <gentoo-intel> unless you confged it
[23:43] <gentoo-intel> what does the volume levels look like in alsamixer?
[23:47] <fr0sted> hey all
[23:47] <fr0sted> anyone use a dock with ubuntu ?
[23:47] <erez_> can i use only pulse audio without alsa?
[23:47] <gentoo-intel> no
[23:47] <gentoo-intel> have you checked alsamixer
[23:48] <jeeves_moss> what package has starutil in it?  I can't find it.
[23:52] <zykotick9> jeeves_moss, i don't find a starutil for ubuntu/debian either.  Good luck.
[23:52] <danhorniblow> Hey people!
[23:52] <jeeves_moss> zykotick9, thanks.  I think it's for another OS control, it's for the RadiusManager package.
[23:53] <zykotick9> jeeves_moss, do you know what startos is?  I've never heard of it, but it "appears" that perhaps where it's from
[23:53] <rampage73> have a ubuntu 11.04 Question, has anyone figured out how to rotate the touch input with the screen
[23:53] <jeeves_moss> zykotick9, no idea.  as I said, it's a built in thing for RadiusManager
[23:54] <danhorniblow> Hi, I am having problems accessing my ubuntu server via ssh, using sshfs from an ubuntu client, error "read: Connection reset by peer". Has anyone ever come across this before?
[23:55] <rampage73> oh sorry forgot to mention that i have an acer iconia tab w500 not running windows!
[23:55] <zykotick9> danhorniblow, does Gnome's SSH connection work?  Places / Server / select SSH
[23:56] <djjonex> hello everybody
[23:56] <danhorniblow> I can ssh to my server with no problems, but I want to mount a directory that is on the server to my client using sshfs but it just give me the error  "read: Connection reset by peer".
[23:57] <g0dzilla> i think i was targeted by someone thru irc chatroom. Any way to confirm if my laptop was compromised?
[23:57] <djjonex> i have a windows computer with bad hard drive but the restore partition is fine... how i can export that?
[23:57] <g0dzilla> it was automatically shutdown two times!
[23:58] <gentoo-intel> g0dzilla, check auth.log maybe
[23:58] <gentoo-intel> do you run ssh?
[23:58] <g0dzilla> no
[23:59] <gentoo-intel> i doubt you were hacked
[23:59] <gentoo-intel> maybe its dodgy hardware?
[23:59] <g0dzilla> i dont think!
[23:59] <g0dzilla> shall i share auth.log ?
[23:59] <gentoo-intel> read it yourself lol