[12:11] <magic> como puedo arreglar mis poblemas de video en la sesion xgl?
[12:11] <DaSkreech> !es
[12:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:11] <intelikey> otaku-san can you pastebin the error   and  your sources.list
[12:11] <magic> sorry
[12:11] <DaSkreech> magic: Also try #ubuntu-xgl
[12:11] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Whats up?
[12:11] <DaSkreech> magic: They can be helpful
[12:11] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Rain Clouds!
[12:11] <otaku-san> intelikey: sure thing...hold on
[12:12] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: you to?  It's poring here
[12:12] <intelikey> it sprunkel here all night  :)
[12:12] <max__> intel 82845G/GL chipset intergrated graphics devicce
[12:13] <intelikey> sprunkel is the past tense of sprinle isn't it ?
[12:13] <intelikey> sprinkle that is
[12:14] <inteliwasp> how do i make the system tray icons stack on top of them selves?
[12:14] <max__> intelikey: intel 82845G/GL chipset intergrated graphics devicce
[12:15] <DaSkreech> inteliwasp: May need to change your System tray settings
[12:15] <intelikey> max__ ok in this irssi session type this without the quotes.  "/dcc send intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf "
[12:15] <DaSkreech> inteliwasp: Right click o nthe K menu and choose configure panel
[12:15] <DaSkreech> And set your size down to 48 pixels
[12:16] <intelikey> let me look at your config file...
[12:16] <max__> thank you very much for your help
[12:16] <intelikey> max__ ?
[12:17] <max__> yes?
[12:17] <silox> Tecom BT3030 - Anyone know if this bluetooth USB adapter is supported in Linux??
[12:17] <silox> sorry i ment BT3033
[12:17] <intelikey> the xorg.conf file ?
[12:17] <max__> i sent it
[12:17] <intelikey> hmmm you behind a firewall ?
[12:17] <max__> no
[12:18] <intelikey> router ?
[12:18] <max__> no
[12:18] <max__> i typed it in clicked enter and nothing happened
[12:18] <max__> that, right? "/dcc send intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:18] <intelikey> without the quotes  yes
[12:19] <max__> hang on intelikey
[12:19] <natalia> is anyone here using a print server with kubuntu?
[12:19] <silox> natalia yupp
[12:20] <natalia> What did you have to do to get it to work?  I know the IP of the print server and the port the printer is on... but cant get it to print
[12:20] <silox> or i use ubuntu ^^
[12:20] <intelikey> you can check alt+1 alt+2 alt+3 for other windows (error messages) in irssi.   irssi uses a screen-like display by default.
[12:20] <intelikey> @ max__
[12:20] <natalia> I am using lpd
[12:20] <silox> what services does your printserver support?
[12:20] <silox> ok
[12:21] <natalia> so I have lpd://IP_ADDRESS/3
[12:21] <otaku-san> intelikey: heres the pastebin http://pastebin.ca/205564
[12:21] <intelikey> looking
[12:21] <natalia> but when I print a test page nothing come out of the printer
[12:21] <otaku-san> thanks
[12:21] <max__> i tried again and no luck
[12:21] <silox> natalia wait one sec
[12:21] <natalia> ok :)
[12:22] <silox> is it a printserver in the printer or an external?
[12:22] <natalia> an external
[12:23] <silox> ok have u tried Samba and Cups?
[12:23] <natalia> currently my windows computers can print to it with out issue - just need to know how to get my linux one working
[12:23] <natalia> I have cups yes
[12:23] <max__> intelikey: i tried to send, you not get it?
[12:23] <silox> in wIndows can u search the printserver in the "Computer Search" tool?
[12:23] <natalia> yes in windows I can it works well
[12:24] <ypsila> good morning
[12:24] <natalia> also I can ping the print server from my linux machine too
[12:24] <intelikey> max__ are you are doing that right here as iff you were talking to me aren't you ?   not in a console bash shell ?
[12:24] <silox> okey then u must take Samba
[12:24] <max__> yes
[12:24] <natalia> I have to install samba?
[12:24] <intelikey> no i'm not getting any offer.
[12:25] <silox> yes if u cant change to it in printer settings but i am sure that your printserver supports some more then SMB..
[12:25] <max__> dcc send intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:25] <silox> what the name on your print server?
[12:25] <natalia> this is it here: http://www.humra.com/product_info.php?products_id=540&osCsid=b0777ef9de111ae0ff195d64df707201
[12:25] <silox> ok
[12:26] <natalia> i sais it support UNIX LPR/LPD printing.
[12:26] <natalia> it
[12:26] <silox> yes..
[12:27] <silox> but u have to configure it to run on that i think
[12:27] <silox> do u know the IP to it?
[12:27] <natalia> So I installed cups - then tried to add the printer using the lpr:// method
[12:27] <natalia> yes
[12:27] <max__> intelikey: is there no other way to send?
[12:27] <silox> try to go to it in firefox..
[12:27] <intelikey> otaku-san that's all in your sources.list????  man.   there are repetes in there btw.     291 lines of sources......
[12:27] <natalia> im in there now
[12:27] <silox> ok
[12:27] <silox> see any setup thins? ^^
[12:28] <natalia> sorry - I didnt follow that last question
[12:28] <intelikey> max__ have a look in alt+1  that's the number one above the letters keys
[12:28] <silox> *things :P sorry my sleepy bad english ;)
[12:28] <natalia> setup things in firefox?
[12:28] <natalia> no I dont see any
[12:29] <max__> private messages frmo unregistered users are disabled
[12:29] <natalia> unless you mean if I go to the webadmin of the print server?
[12:29] <silox> natalia exactly :)
[12:29] <natalia> yes im in there already
[12:29] <tom__> whassup little dog
[12:29] <intelikey> and that's probably blocking dcc actions
[12:29] <silox> natalia is Unix support enabled?
[12:29] <max__> how do i fix that?
[12:29] <intelikey> max__ looks like you have to be regestered to send files on this server
[12:29] <natalia> there is no such option that I can see
[12:30] <otaku-san> intelikey: ya.....it's f'sking huge....I need to clean it...but don't know what to nuke...scared I might bork something
[12:30] <max__> how can i register in irssi
[12:30] <DaSkreech> !register
[12:30] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:30] <silox> natalia k :/ hmm
[12:30] <max__> !register
[12:30] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[12:30] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help register
[12:30] <natalia> I have SNMP option
[12:30] <otaku-san> bot abuse! hehehe
[12:31] <natalia> silox - how did you get yours to work?
[12:31] <intelikey> otaku-san my sources.list is three lines i think.
[12:31] <silox> ok..
[12:31] <otaku-san> intelikey: ......  o.0  what is in it....do you compile everything?
[12:31] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[12:31] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[12:31] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[12:32] <silox> i enabled unix support (LPD) and copied the printer name from the webmin and configured it..
[12:32] <ypsila> good morning
[12:32] <natalia> perhaps I have not enabled LPD?
[12:32] <Pinkle_Rose> hi
[12:33] <max__> whats the command to register?
[12:33] <silox> but i think its much easier to run with SMB,,
[12:33] <otaku-san> intelikey: I ran in too many problems when I had only the original repos...so I got some more with stuff I needed....kinda grew after that
[12:33] <silox> natalia maybe..
[12:33] <Pinkle_Rose> how to turn on visualisations in amarok?
[12:33] <intelikey> /msg nickserv register <passwd>
[12:33] <Pinkle_Rose> i have problem with libvisual
[12:33] <natalia> this unit does not have smb support though
[12:34] <otaku-san> ypsila: Good morning to you.  Do you have a question? Also, no need to say hello..just post your question
[12:34] <intelikey> otaku-san well anyway  your list needs a cleaning even if you keep all those repos there are some duplicates in there.
[12:34] <silox> natalia: yeah i sah that now ^^
[12:34] <natalia> also I have lpr installed from using apt-get install lpr
[12:34] <otaku-san> intelikey: ya....I just noticed that.....hehehehe...what are the ones you saw?
[12:35] <max__> intelikey: <nickerver: No such nick/channel>
[12:35] <ypsila> otaku-san: I only tried to be polite, as european educated person
[12:35] <intelikey> otaku-san might i sujest "grep -ve'#' /etc/apt/sources.list | sort -u > clean.list "    and have a look in ~/clean.list
[12:36] <intelikey> max__ typo   nickserv
[12:36] <silox> natalia: wait i will ask google ;)
[12:36] <max__> oops
[12:36] <natalia> silox - ok thanks
[12:36] <ypsila> my question: ff - firefox produces black-screen when java
[12:37] <otaku-san> ypsila: Always good!  I completely understand...but if a lot of people are posting...introductions kinda just make clutter...it's a bit informal here.  But, always nice to hear a hello or good morning!
[12:37] <max1_> ok, now im registered, ill send now intelikey
[12:37] <ypsila> otaku-san: thx, I'm usually in kubuntu-de and it is not my question :-)
[12:38] <ypsila> just asking for someone who does not trust his english
[12:38] <max1_> did you get it intelikey?
[12:38] <otaku-san> intelikey: I'll try that
[12:38] <naegling23> does anyone know the manual way to change screen resolution, its something like sudo nvidia something
[12:38] <intelikey> max1_ looking
[12:39] <kkathman> is there someway to keep that "popup blocked" message from constantly coming up in Konqueror ???
[12:39] <kkathman> thats irritating
[12:39] <ypsila> holla
[12:40] <ishimaru_kaito> holla senor
[12:40] <axel> !ubuntu
[12:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:41] <ypsila> ishimaru_kaito: just in case you meant me, I'm a lady, sorry
[12:41] <otaku-san> it's hola...heheheh not holla! ;)
[12:41] <ypsila> otaku-san: it was just meant to express my surprise
[12:42] <silox> natalia: try to whrite this in IPP ipp://ipnumer:631/lp1
[12:42] <otaku-san> Ahhh!  Are you German?
[12:42] <ypsila> otaku-san: yes
[12:42] <intelikey> max1_ do a quick    "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810 "   just to make sure the driver is installed.
[12:42] <max1_> ok, brb
[12:43] <otaku-san> intelikey: ok I put in the command and looked where my source list is...but no clean.list....where did it go?
[12:43] <intelikey> otaku-san the "clean.list" is in your home dir
[12:43] <otaku-san> ahhhhhh
[12:43] <natalia> silox - its going very slow since I changed the printing system to LPR
[12:44] <ypsila> otaku-san: I would like to know where you do come from
[12:44] <natalia> need to change it back to cups i guess
[12:44] <silox> natalia yes CUPS need to be enabled
[12:44] <intelikey> max1_ you back ?
[12:44] <ypsila> how do i get java5 with adept?
[12:44] <otaku-san> ypsila: I am from the US....hehehe an uneducated american ;)
[12:45] <max1_> intelikey: it is the latest
[12:45] <natalia> silox - having a hard time changing it back it freezes up
[12:45] <ypsila> otaku-san: nice, but why that  -san nick?
[12:45] <natalia> there we go
[12:46] <ypsila> otaku-san: not proud to be an us? *kidding*
[12:46] <silox> natalia: hehe arent u so happy when things work as u want ^^
[12:46] <max1_> intelikey: it is the latest
[12:46] <ishimaru_kaito> ypsila: apesadumbrado, mi error. hola
[12:46] <intelikey> max1_ ok. good.   now open the config in an editior and change one line.    "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf "   and scroll down to the line that says  "        DefaultDepth    24 "   change the number to 16   save and exit.
[12:46] <natalia> silox - oh yea hahaha
[12:46] <ishimaru_kaito> ps - not really spanish
[12:47] <max1_> ok, brb
[12:47] <otaku-san> ypsila: san basically means Mr. and otaku is someone really obsessed with something (like Linux) so it means Mr.Obsessed
[12:47] <natalia> silox - Ok i tried the way you said no joy same thing happens
[12:47] <ypsila> ishimaru_kaito:  i do not speak portugais
[12:47] <silox> natalia: ok try port 80 instead
[12:47] <Jucato> otaku = Japanese term for "geek" :P
[12:47] <silox> and http instead of IPP://
[12:47] <ishimaru_kaito> otaku - short for fanboy
[12:47] <ypsila> :-D
[12:47] <otaku-san> ypsila: No, I love my country.  And Japan as you can tell
[12:48] <otaku-san> actually it's a bit of an insulting term Jucato
[12:48] <natalia> silox - same thing
[12:48] <Jucato> otaku-san: which only makes me wonder even more :)
[12:48] <otaku-san> ishimaru_kaito: are you Japanese?
[12:48] <ishimaru_kaito> it's to do with being obsessed....   from wikipedia : In modern Japanese slang, an otaku refers to an overtly obsessive fan of any one particular theme, topic, or hobby.
[12:49] <ypsila> latex
[12:49] <otaku-san> Jucato: hehehehe ya...but I thought...hmmm I love Linux so lets be obsessive about it!
[12:49] <ypsila> leather
[12:49] <max1_> intelikey: i changed it, did <startx> and got the same error
[12:49] <ypsila> java5 with adept
[12:50] <otaku-san> ishimaru_kaito: ya thats why I called my self that...I'm obsessed with Linux!  So Mr.Obsessed Linux Guy
[12:50] <natalia> silox - I changed it back to lpd: and now the state sais Queued instead of Error
[12:50] <intelikey> max1_ ok i need the output of lshw.   do this  "lshw > out.lshw "    and come back here and type in "/dcc send intelikey out.lshw"
[12:50] <max1_> ok, brb
[12:50] <ypsila> ichnennemichgleichmamasan
[12:51] <silox> natalia: find something on google:  "In cups (web interface...) choose device Internet Printing protocol (http) and enter the URI as follows http://IP adress of the PN1200/lp1     It is now shown in CUPS as http://xx.xx.xxx:80/lp1....     After that CUPS requests to install the appropriate driver for your printer and it should work..."
[12:51] <silox> Natalia: look like some progress.. =)
[12:51] <otaku-san> intelikey: so in the clean list....is that what I need?  or is that the things that I need to delete?
[12:52] <max1_> lshw > out.lshw/dcc send intelikey out.lshw
[12:52] <max1_> oops
[12:52] <intelikey> otaku-san that's a single copy of every thing you already have.  it removed the dups
[12:52] <silox> natalia can u print a testpage?
[12:52] <natalia> silox - where is device internet printint protocol?
[12:52] <natalia> silox - no thats what I am trying to do
[12:52] <intelikey> otaku-san dups comments and blank lines
[12:53] <ypsila> ok, thx for the help
[12:53] <silox> natalia yeah i know ^^ but i thought maybe it worked now ;)
[12:53] <intelikey> max1_ from the /   onward
[12:53] <otaku-san> intelikey: ok!  Thanks man.
[12:53] <silox> natalia I think u can use the Gnome Print Tool also
[12:53] <natalia> silox - I dont see that option in cups that you mentioned
[12:53] <max1_> intelikey: what?
[12:54] <silox> natalia wait let me see her
[12:54] <silox> e
[12:54] <intelikey> max1_ the /dcc command
[12:54] <max1_> what abou tit?
[12:54] <max1_> about it*
[12:54] <intelikey> send me the file ?
[12:56] <max1_> that work?
[12:56] <intelikey> no
[12:56] <max1_> what is the exact command?
[12:56] <intelikey> /dcc send intelikey out.lshw
[12:56] <otaku-san> ok I'm out of here!
[12:56] <otaku-san> peace
[12:56] <Jucato> sayonara otaku-san :P
[12:56] <intelikey> otaku-san luck with it
[12:56] <ypsila> love
[12:56] <silox> natalia didnt find it here either lol must be some really old stuff i read ^^
[12:57] <natalia> silox - I need to head out for a bit dinner is ready - if you are here when I get back thats great - if not thanks for your help
[12:57] <natalia> much appreciated :)
[12:57] <silox> natalia i can try to search for some answer at the time ;)
[12:57] <snook353> does anyone have any experience with ndiswrapper and kubuntu?
[12:57] <silox> *answers
[12:57] <intelikey> DaSkreech you around ?
[12:57] <natalia> thanks :)
[12:57] <ypsila> god night
[12:58] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Shhhh
[12:58] <max1_> that work?
[12:58] <intelikey> DaSkreech is there any know issue with the i810 ?
[12:58] <intelikey> vidio
[12:58] <DaSkreech> Not as far as Iknow it should have Open source drivers and everything
[12:58] <max1_> it says "out.lshw no such directory"
[12:58] <DaSkreech> And it worked before correct?
[12:58] <max1_> yes
[12:59] <intelikey> max1_ then you need to do the command again that makes the file.....   "lshw > ~/out.lshw 2>&1 "
[12:59] <max1_> ok, brb
[01:00] <intelikey> !paste
[01:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:02] <max1_> buffer IO error
[01:02] <intelikey> DaSkreech http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27045/plain/ max1_'s xorg.conf
[01:03] <intelikey> max1_ that's fine.  now send it.
[01:03] <max1_> oh ok
[01:03] <tjako> hi all
[01:03] <max1_> it still says no such file
[01:03] <tjako> happy birth day to you
[01:04] <Jucato> ?
[01:04] <Ranma2264> I'm having problem to mount devices via desktop icons the only way to mount it is doing right click, anyone with the same issue?
[01:05] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Seems standard
[01:05] <intelikey> DaSkreech yeah.
[01:05] <DaSkreech> Whatsthe errors?
[01:05] <tjako> i have some similar problem: i mounted my ntfs disks in media, but i need a desktop shortcut
[01:05] <intelikey> that's what's trubbling me.
[01:05] <intelikey> no screens found
[01:05] <max1_> could changing anyrginf in my sources.list make this happen?
[01:06] <tjako> alias tjako t-bone
[01:06] <intelikey> normally a no screens will be the vid card or the mon section   both look ok.
[01:07] <intelikey> max1_ can you confirm that the file is not in your home dir.   go to that console and type "ls "
[01:07] <tjako> anybody know how to create desktop shortcuts of maps in /media/*.*
[01:08] <intelikey> tjako right click the desktop ?
[01:08] <tjako> doesnt work
[01:09] <tjako> which to choose : create folder/launcher/document
[01:09] <Ranma2264> I'm trying to update hal by source, but I have a problem where can I find policy kit?
[01:09] <intelikey> launcher
[01:09] <tjako> and then what should i fill in?
[01:09] <intelikey> and input the full /path/name you want tjako
[01:10] <tjako> in command?
[01:10] <intelikey> yep
[01:10] <max1_> its not there
[01:11] <intelikey> tjako konq should use the program associated with the type.
[01:11] <tjako> hey great inelikey! it works!! thankx so much, i have been struggling with this for 3 days already!
[01:11] <intelikey> max1_ hmmmm   ok lets see what DaSkreech comes up with.
[01:11] <max1_> the file isnt that long
[01:11] <max1_> i can coppy it
[01:12] <intelikey> DaSkreech what's the word on max1_ xorg problem ?
[01:12] <tjako> no i just needed a fast way to access my ntfsdrives, which are correctly mounted and are readable and writable
[01:12] <soulrider> hi everyone
[01:12] <max1_> thank both of you for the help
[01:12] <intelikey> the file max1_ ?   which file ?
[01:13] <max1_> huh
[01:13] <vge> can somebody tell me, how can i disable "mouse rolling over taskbar tabs changing the window problem"?
[01:14] <vge> taskbar==panel
[01:15] <intelikey> max1_ what monitor do you have ?
[01:16] <max1_> Gateway LE500
[01:16] <DaSkreech> Did you buy the computer?
[01:16] <max1_> its never given me probelms untill i tried to switch to Edgy Eft
[01:17] <tjako> anybody know why internet connections through http in ubuntu go sooo slow?
[01:17] <intelikey> max1_ i betting there is a bug in the version of xorg.  or possably the i810 driver for that version.
[01:18] <max1_> can can i fix it?
[01:18] <tjako> i have fast adsl 6 mbit, but looking up the url takes ages
[01:18] <DaSkreech> max1_: When did you upgrade?
[01:18] <max1_> lastnight
[01:18] <DaSkreech> Did you try a Dist-upgrade today?
[01:18] <max1_> no
[01:19] <DaSkreech> try that ;-)
[01:19] <max1_> whats the command?
[01:19] <Blacken> tjako: Sounds like a DNS problem.
[01:19] <DaSkreech> Sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:19] <intelikey> max1_ you can try one more time the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "   and use  "vesa" driver   it should work but be somewhat limited on the rez.
[01:20] <intelikey> oh sorry i was typing not reading.....
[01:20] <max1_> ok, brb
[01:20] <intelikey> DaSkreech max1_ i'm out for a bit.
[01:20] <DaSkreech> OK
[01:20] <DaSkreech> Me and you max1_
[01:20] <tjako> i doubt it is DNS because i have solid ip and downloading files goes very fast, it only takes ages when i type in a url before the page loads
[01:20] <Zaire> is there an alternate way of purging all files from a package aside from apt-get remove package --purge cause that didn't work
[01:21] <soulrider> yes
[01:21] <soulrider> sudo dpkg -P <name?
[01:21] <Zaire> hmm i'll have to try that cause mysql configs aren't being purged and neither are php5's
[01:23] <max1_> no luch
[01:23] <max1_> luck*
[01:24] <DaSkreech> After the apt-get update?
[01:24] <DaSkreech> dist-upgrade?
[01:24] <max1_> yes
[01:26] <DaSkreech> Did you try the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa?
[01:26] <max1_> vesa?
[01:26] <DaSkreech> Yes instead of i810
[01:27] <max1_> i should try that?
[01:27] <DaSkreech> Yes
[01:27] <max1_> ok
[01:27] <max1_> brb
[01:27] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:28] <max1_> DaSkreech: nothin
[01:29] <DaSkreech> Startx throws what error?
[01:29] <jason__> hello
[01:31] <jason__> what's the proper way of loading kernel modules in a specific order on Edgy?  (in my case, these modules [usbhid, appletouch]  get autoloaded anyway, so I need to do it before hotplug/discover gets around to it, or blacklist the modules and specifically load them in /etc/modules)
[01:32] <max1_> Fatal server error: no screens found  XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":o.o" after 0 requesting (0 known processed) with 0 events running
[01:34] <DaSkreech> max1_: That's the literal error
[01:34] <DaSkreech> :o.o
[01:34] <driz> hey my good friends anyone knows what this means?----->E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:34] <max1_> yes
[01:34] <LjL> driz: close Adept
[01:35] <max1_> \wait
[01:35] <driz> oh ya thanks
[01:35] <max1_> its 0.0
[01:35] <max1_> ":0.0"
[01:35] <max1_> with the " in ti
[01:35] <max1_> it*
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Ah Ok
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Zero point zero then?
[01:35] <DaSkreech> not Oh point Oh ?
[01:35] <max1_> yes
[01:36] <max1_> yes]
[01:36] <driz> ummmm... i did but it keeps saying it?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> driz: try dpkg --configure -a
[01:36] <DaSkreech> sudo that :)
[01:37] <driz> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[01:37] <driz> thats what i got
[01:37] <cpk2> driz: is adept open?
[01:37] <DaSkreech> driz: Sure you don't have adept/synaptic/dpkg/apt-get/aptitude running elsewhere?
[01:38] <driz> let me try
[01:38] <driz> ps -x
[01:39] <inteliwasp> what is a good gui based text editor that is simaler to notepad and can be opened with a hot key
[01:39] <driz> DaSkreech: i don't see it in the list
[01:39] <LjL> !adept-crash-fix
[01:39] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:39] <DaSkreech> max1_: Hmm
[01:40] <LjL> inteliwasp: anything can be opened with a shortcut key, you just have to set one in System Settings
[01:40] <DaSkreech> Man I'm really hating on Kaffiene
[01:40] <LjL> inteliwasp: as for the editor, i think "kedit" is the most basic
[01:40] <inteliwasp> thanks
[01:41] <driz> LjL: thanks
[01:41] <LjL> inteliwasp: the default Kate is not that bad anyway, imho, even though it does have a few more buttons than Notepad...
[01:41] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program i can use to block IPs and domains ?
[01:41] <soulrider> kind of like peerguardian for windows
[01:42] <soulrider> but easy to add and remove IPs and domainds
[01:42] <soulrider> domains*
[01:42] <LjL> soulrider: you can probably just edit the /etc/hosts.deny file
[01:42] <LjL> soulrider: "man hosts.deny"
[01:42] <soulrider> lol, i didnt know that existed :P
[01:42] <m4x1mum> guys i have install windows after installing kubuntu how to repair the grub?
[01:42] <soulrider> uhm
[01:42] <soulrider> i think i have enough programming skills to make a program to edit it :D
[01:42] <DaSkreech> ryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27045/plain/
[01:43] <DaSkreech> THat's max1_'s xorg.conf
[01:43] <driz> i have this thing---->X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166---> it appears everytime i do some sort of command i have no idea why it comes up or how to fix it
[01:43] <DaSkreech> he's getting an error of Fatal server error: no screens found  XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requesting (0 known processed) with 0 events running
[01:43] <DaSkreech> This is directly after an upgrade to Edgy
[01:43] <gameman73> how can i install eselect or opengl-update
[01:44] <m4x1mum> currently i can only boot to windows, how to make the loader to recognise kubuntu as well? anyone?
[01:47] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: no clue... I used it, but not that much, the config file seems fine... did you try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[01:47] <ryanakca> (or whatever it is now in edgy)?
[01:47] <driz> can anyone check this for me. I got the error after running "sudo apt-get update"
[01:47] <DaSkreech> Hi h3sp4wn
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> hi
[01:47] <driz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27049/
[01:47] <DaSkreech>  h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27045/plain/
[01:47] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: he's getting an error of Fatal server error: no screens found  XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requesting (0 known processed) with 0 events running
[01:47] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Where he == max1_
[01:47] <DaSkreech> ryanakca: Ypu and dropped it back to vesa
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> Option          "XkbModel"      "pc11" (that is wrong)(
[01:48] <ryanakca> odd...
[01:48] <DaSkreech> So I don't think that it's a i810 error anymore
[01:48] <ryanakca> no...
[01:48] <DaSkreech> _max1: You there?
[01:48] <max1_> yes
[01:49] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn is saying that xkbmodel is wrong
[01:49] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: XGL howto's tend to be good at debugging xorg stuff... (imho)... doesn't mean xgl will work with i810, just that they have lot's of troubleshooting info for various vid cards
[01:49] <ryanakca> yeah, shouldn't it be 'pc104' or something along those lines?
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> If I was using i810 I would use edgy
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> (much better intel video drivers in edgy)
[01:50] <Kim^J> How do I turn of singleclick in KDE?
[01:50] <ryanakca> Kim^J: system settings / kcontrol
[01:51] <Kim^J> ryanakca: And then?
[01:51] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: And that would throw a No screens Found Error?
[01:51] <ryanakca> Kim^J: Keyboard & Mouse, Mouse, Icons -> change setting
[01:51] <edytt> help!!! how to make the loader recognise linux again?? i installed windows after installing kubuntu
[01:51] <Zaire> some ppl may wanna read this http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
[01:51] <Zaire> its about the nvidia kernel
[01:52] <BonBonTheJon> driz: you need to run 'wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add'
[01:52] <ryanakca> edytt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: No but it would probably complain about the keyboard
[01:53] <DaSkreech> !grub > edytt
[01:53] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: So that's not the problem then
[01:54] <driz> BonBonTheJon: it doesn't seem to work?
[01:54] <gameman73> call me stupid, but whats the server glx vendor string supposed to be when your using ati's drivers  (from glxinfo)
[01:55] <driz> W: GPG BonBonTheJon:  error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[01:55] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn, ryanakca: Any Flashes of perception?
[01:55] <BonBonTheJon> driz: ok do 'wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg' to download the gpg
[01:56] <BonBonTheJon> driz: tell me when that is done downloading
[01:56] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: none at the moment... it's probably something tediously simple that we've overlooked... or not :)
[01:57] <DaSkreech> Well that's 4 people now (5 counting max1_)
[01:57] <dbglt> ok
[01:57] <dbglt> just changed all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list then ran an update, then a dist-upgrade... I downloaded about 660mb of stuff, and now there are a few packages it can't find
[01:57] <dbglt> and it won't let me continue
[01:57] <driz> BonBonTheJon:
[01:57] <driz> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[01:57] <driz> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:58] <driz> oops sorry
[01:58] <BonBonTheJon> driz: did it download the gpg key
[01:58] <dbglt> firefox, and a few kdegraphics packages and some libpopler thing
[01:58] <dbglt> any way to fix that up? :\
[01:58] <edytt> if i rewrite the windows bootloaded will i be able to boot to windows later?
[01:58] <max1_> \
[01:58] <driz> BonBonTheJon: I'm sure it did
[01:58] <driz> ya
[01:58] <edytt> ?
[01:59] <BonBonTheJon> driz: ok, now run 'sudo apt-key add 12B83718.gpg' to add it
[01:59] <max1_> DaSkreech: ?
[01:59] <driz> BonBonTheJon: it said ok should i run "sudo apt-get update"
[02:00] <BonBonTheJon> edytt: do you mean to have more of a time out
[02:00] <BonBonTheJon> driz:
[02:00] <BonBonTheJon> yes
[02:00] <DaSkreech> edytt: As long as grub can handle it
[02:00] <DaSkreech> max1_: Yes?
[02:00] <max1_> do you not no anything else i could do about my problem?
[02:01] <max1_> know*
[02:01] <driz> BonBonTheJon: ok it's done and it worked. after the update how do i make the full changes? is it "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[02:01] <BonBonTheJon> driz: yeah, if you just got the listings, then upgrade to get the goods
[02:01] <driz> BonBonTheJon: sweet thanks man
[02:02] <BonBonTheJon> driz: glad to be of service
[02:02] <driz> cool :-)
[02:03] <livingdaylight> is it still KDE's Birthday?
[02:03] <BonBonTheJon> livingdaylight: it was on Saturday
[02:03] <livingdaylight> oh... i missed it
[02:04] <livingdaylight> any cake left?
[02:04] <driz> oh man problem!!! >.< The following packages have unmet dependencies: python2.4-dev: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.3-0ubuntu4) but 2.4.3-0ubuntu6 is installeE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.d
[02:04] <driz> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[02:06] <BonBonTheJon> driz: sorry, i don't know much about python
[02:07] <driz> BonBonTheJon: ok :(
[02:09] <DaSkreech> max1_: Well I'm going off the xorg.conf idea and so far it seems that's not what is throwing the error
[02:10] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Maybe it could be that there is no program starting up?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> KDM isn
[02:10] <DaSkreech> 't running?
[02:10] <cpk2> driz: try apt-get install -f
[02:10] <max1_> ok
[02:11] <pedro3494> hi
[02:11] <driz> awsome.. :-D works now thanks again
[02:11] <max1_> DaSkreech: do you know what else it could possiblybe?
[02:11] <max1_>  be*
[02:11] <DaSkreech> Well the section about it not having any requests is owrrying to me
[02:12] <BonBonTheJon> hey cpk2
[02:12] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Some people don't use kdm (me included)
[02:12] <cpk2> driz: -f install worked?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: What would X call then?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> It's getting no requests it says which seems fishy to me
[02:13] <cpk2> BonBonTheJon: hi
[02:13] <driz> cpk2: ya
[02:13] <peacekpr> lupine_85: FYI, your suggestion of "sudo swapoff -a" worked for my harddrive partioning issue from LiveCD
[02:13] <peacekpr> much appreciated :)
[02:14] <kkathman> bbiab
[02:14] <driz> I just tried to do those updates listed on the kubuntu website but all i got was an ok how do i get them installed.
[02:14] <BonBonTheJon> driz: what updates
[02:15] <SiLOX> natalia: have u solved your problem with the printserver? :)
[02:16] <driz> BonBonTheJon: i thought i after adding the keys and get those ok everything should be done but i dont think i installed them just added the keys
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: So has X never worked for the case in question ?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: is that busid in the Device section ok?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Wroked great right up unti a dist-upgrade to edgy
[02:16] <driz> i tried the apt-get update and upgrade and nothing happened... Do i have them installed already?
[02:16] <BonBonTheJon> driz: when you run 'sudo apt-get update' does it still give errors
[02:17] <cpk2> driz: what are you trying to install?
[02:17] <BonBonTheJon> driz: you must have the latest versions
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Why ask in here then ? (you were making me think it was dapper)
[02:17] <BonBonTheJon> driz: plus that repository holds mostly codecs for windows files
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: ask whoever to go to ubuntu+1
[02:17] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: I've been asking in +1 but no one seems to say anything :)
[02:17] <driz> no more errors. i was trying to get the new KOffice 1.6 and KDE 3.5.5
[02:18] <cpk2> driz: you can check versions of what you have installed by doing apt-cache policy koffice
[02:18] <peacekpr> does anyone have the *real* solution to the ATI issue?  i'm getting error messages that look like this: "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT"
[02:18] <DaSkreech> max1_: can You type /join #ubuntu+1
[02:18] <BonBonTheJon> driz: kde 3.5.5 is in a different repo, check the kubuntu web site to add the repo and key
[02:18] <max1_> tom_: you still in here?
[02:19] <peacekpr> i replaced libGL.so.1.2 with a version that supposedly worked.. it did until I rebooted... then it decided to stop working
[02:19] <cpk2> BonBonTheJon: easysource has the latest kde repo
[02:19] <driz> BonBonTheJon: i added the repos and keys as instructed on the website
[02:19] <_kkathman> driz you probably have one for 3.5.4, just change that to 3.5.5  and update/upgrade
[02:19] <DaSkreech> max1_: type /join #ubuntu+1 in irssi
[02:19] <cpk2> its easier to use the latest kde repo so you dont always have to change the version number
[02:19] <driz> cpk2: my koffice is 1.5
[02:19] <max1_> but ive been in here for more than three hours, i dont want to explain for another three hours in another channel
[02:20] <BonBonTheJon> !easysource
[02:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:20] <cpk2> driz: is that the version you wanted? =P
[02:20] <DaSkreech> max1_: someone says they may havea solution
[02:20] <max1_> oh, ok
[02:20] <driz> cpk2: i want the new  ver.1.6
[02:21] <peacekpr> i need to get OpenGL working for my ATI card so I can take the GRE "PowerPrep" practice using wine
[02:21] <cpk2> driz: the repos dont usually have the bleeding edge newest releases
[02:21] <DaSkreech> max1_: Done that?
[02:22] <max1_> yes, im in there
[02:22] <|Mikael|> hi there!
[02:22] <driz> cpk2: oh... but the website has add rhe repoes and keys and i added them iwas guessing they would be there.   oh well i'll try again later
[02:23] <cpk2> driz: i have the kubuntu.org koffice repo and it looks like 1.5.91 is the latest available
[02:24] <driz> oh mine is just the plain 1.5
[02:25] <cpk2> driz: nevermind you are right, you should be able to get 1.6
[02:25] <_kkathman> does anyone know how to suppress that "Popup Blocked" messages that constantly comes up in Konq- its as obnoxious as the popup it self :)
[02:25] <cpk2> driz: you added the repo from the directions on kubuntu.org?
[02:25] <driz> cpk2: have you ever had Adept just stop working at the point where it was suppose to download the stuff.
[02:26] <driz> cpk2: oh and ya i got a OK response after adding them
[02:26] <cpk2> driz: i suppose it might look like that if it cant connect to the site
[02:27] <driz> uh... ok then
[02:27] <cpk2> driz: try using apt-get, you will get more output if there is something wrong
[02:29] <driz> cpk2: apt-get upgrade? i tried many times never mentions koffice
[02:29] <cpk2> driz: and you already did apt-get update?
[02:29] <driz> yupo
[02:30] <cpk2> can you pastebin your sources.list?
[02:30] <Hawkwind> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-16/ dapper main
[02:30] <Hawkwind> driz: Have you tried adding that source ?
[02:30] <driz> Hawkwind: um... no
[02:31] <Hawkwind> driz: If you do, you'll get koffice 1.6
[02:31] <driz> oh ok
[02:31] <driz> i'll do it
[02:31] <_kkathman> hmm is there any configuration in Konq for popup??? hehe
[02:31] <cpk2> Hawkwind: that isnt the first repo listed at kubuntu.org so I was assuming he was using one of the other ones at the top =P
[02:32] <Hawkwind> cpk2: I've had that repo for a while, back when it was beta1.  I just changed the line from -16beta1 to just -16 and it works :P
[02:33] <cpk2> Hawkwind: I would use the kubuntu.org repo too but for some reason they listed that repo at the bottom of their how to to get koffice
[02:34] <flaccid_> what does it mean when in adept, the requested status of an upgradeable package is no change
[02:34] <Hawkwind> cpk2: It means nothing if it's listed at the bottom.  You can't list everything at the top.  Just a matter of how it was typed up is all.  You can use any of them
[02:35] <peacekpr> brb
[02:35] <driz> ya i did using wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg and the one under it
[02:35] <driz> i got an ok and tried update then upgrade and nothing
[02:36] <flaccid_> i get this when doing an apt upgrade:
[02:36] <flaccid_> The following packages have been kept back:  proftpd
[02:38] <flaccid_> !keptback
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keptback - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <cpk2> flaccid_: just install it
[02:39] <cpk2> driz: you needed to add the repos below that too =P
[02:39] <flaccid_> cpk2: ?
[02:40] <driz> cpk2: haha oh ok i'll make sure i do that next time thanks
[02:40] <cpk2> flaccid_: try apt-get install proftpd
[02:40] <flaccid_> cpk2: why is it doing this?
[02:41] <cpk2> it might have broken depends
[02:41] <cpk2> it might break other packages
[02:41] <cpk2> you might have put a hold on it
[02:41] <driz> cpk2: all of the repos? or can you just pick one
[02:41] <flaccid_> ok
[02:42] <cpk2> driz: just one, so the one that Hawkwind gave you will work
[02:42] <flaccid_> i dislike how adept says nothing about it
[02:42] <cpk2> adept might but sometimes it is hard to find the information on adept
[02:42] <driz> awesome thanks a lot guys :-D
[02:44] <driz> ha it's working now.... aah
[02:47] <CNote> hi guys...may I ask for some assistance connecting to a WEP Encrypted AP?
[02:48] <CNote> hi guys...may I ask for some assistance connecting to a WEP Encrypted AP?
[02:49] <Hawkwind> CNote: Just ask your question and no need to repeat yourself every minute or so
[02:50] <CNote> I am getting connection failures when trying to connect to the device, it has a static IP, and I have tried entering the WEP key as ASCII, but each time it fails...
[02:51] <Shnee> CNote: what are using to connect?
[02:52] <CNote> ipw3945 using the 2.6.15-23-686 SMP kernel to a linksys AP
[02:52] <CNote> and trying to use th wireless assistant
[02:52] <Shnee> well the best ways wep are wpa_supplicant or knetworkmanager
[02:53] <CNote> shnee: why do i not see knetworkmanager
[02:53] <Shnee> it doesnt come installed
[02:53] <CNote> hmm
[02:53] <CNote> just apt-get it?
[02:53] <Shnee> yeh
[02:53] <CNote> ok thanks
[02:53] <CNote> I'll mess with it
[02:55] <Shnee> so whats everyones irc program of choice im trying to decide between kopete, konversation, and kvirc
[02:55] <soulrider> i like GAIM for everything but IRC, i use konversation for that
[02:57] <BonBonTheJon> Shnee: konversation for irc
[03:02] <david_> kokp
[03:10] <coreymon77> !seen ceros
[03:10] <ubotu> I last saw ceros<EMAIL_ADDRESS>2d 8h 34m 28s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[03:13] <DaSkreech> Night all
[03:14] <DaSkreech> time for dinner
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> night
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> DaSkreech: dinner, where are you at
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> !seen BonBonTheJon > BonBonTheJon
[03:15] <ubuntu> could someone please help me with a kernel question
[03:15] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: ask away
[03:15] <DaSkreech> BonBonTheJon: You don't wanna know :)
[03:15] <stodge> Hi - what package do I install for video playback? I installed the codecs but is there a backend I need?
[03:16] <BonBonTheJon> stodge: you have some choices, vlc, kmplayer, mplayer, kaffeine
[03:16] <ubuntu> ok i am not a linux user...but i seem to have lost a file from my windows os...and i have all the kernals on disk...how would i go about installing them from linux?
[03:16] <BonBonTheJon> stodge: kaffeine is installed by default, i think
[03:16] <stodge> I have kaffeine, but do I need a backend? gstreamer etc?
[03:17] <BonBonTheJon> stodge: xine, maybe
[03:17] <rawrness> good news i got my internet working again i just ditched the install disk that canicol sent to me so nicly
[03:17] <rawrness> and used the alternet install as i first did
[03:17] <stodge> Ah ok
[03:17] <Vuen> hey, did anyone else's konsole fonts change after the last dist-upgrade?
[03:18] <cpk2> i am pretty sure libxine-extracodecs installs xine too?
[03:18] <ubuntu> cause i know that the linux disc i have boots from a kernel...how do i install windows from the kernal?
[03:19] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window accross xservers running on a machine/
[03:19] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: do you have linux installed already?
[03:19] <ubuntu> yes....but its not userfriendly...well for us anyways
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: and does it boot correctly?
[03:20] <ubuntu> yes....linux does...but you see i want to get back to windows
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: and get rid of linux?
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: or dual-boot so you have both
[03:21] <ubuntu> i dont care if linux is here but i need to restore windows for the wife
[03:21] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Oh wait you installed Linux and Destroyed the WIndows partition?
[03:22] <ubuntu> yeah...but i have a disk with all the windows kernels...the guy at the pc shop said that those would fix it but how?
[03:22] <Shoiab> i have a problem!!! l am un_able to connect with Internet through ubuntu!!! i install Linuxant modem driver!!! with which kubuntu detected my modem!! but when it hang after verifying user-name & password at login to network!!! i feel it unable to start pppd what i di?????
[03:23] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: if you want to clear everything off and put windows back on, then put the windows cd in and delete all the partitions, then have windows make a new partition, and install as normal
[03:23] <ubuntu> i cant find the original windows cd...i have just the i386 folder
[03:23] <rawrness> Ouch
[03:23] <flaccid_> ubuntu: you are stuffed then
[03:24] <cpk2> i think we should get to the root of the problem about how ubuntu isnt user friendly =P
[03:24] <BonBonTheJon> cpk2: that is a topic for a different time, lol
[03:24] <ubuntu> sorry cpk....just harder to learn
[03:24] <ubuntu> have to reboot
[03:24] <FreeT15> Shoiad: try to restart pppd ?
[03:25] <cpk2> ubuntu: no worries, just joking around =) it can be hard to jump in head first for someone using windows their whole life
[03:25] <JumBoBoobs> what is the best burning program that i can use that will convert mp3's back to regular cd-format music for use in a car cd player?
[03:25] <cpk2> JumBoBoobs: k3b
[03:25] <JumBoBoobs> tried it,
[03:26] <JumBoBoobs> says mp3 is unknown format
[03:26] <cpk2> and?
[03:26] <JumBoBoobs> ^^
[03:26] <Shoiab> how i do that
[03:26] <cpk2> can you play mp3s on your computer?
[03:26] <flaccid_> !mp3 > JumBoBoobs
[03:26] <JumBoBoobs> cpk2: yes
[03:26] <cpk2> you have libxine-extracodecs?
[03:26] <FreeT15> Shoiad: you   must list your status of PCI device to show us
[03:26] <intelikey> ok maybe i'm caught up...
[03:27] <JumBoBoobs> flaccid_:  i know waht an mp3 is, i know how make them and use them, just cant get k3b to convert them back to cd format....
[03:27] <BonBonTheJon> JumBoBoobs: you need to install libk3b2-mp3
[03:27] <JumBoBoobs> umm, not sure
[03:27] <JumBoBoobs> i will look
[03:28] <cpk2> intelikey: on?
[03:28] <JumBoBoobs> libxine-extracodecs <--- installed
[03:28] <JumBoBoobs> libk3b2-mp3 <--- installing
[03:28] <intelikey> hmmm?   oh finished a project.
[03:29] <BonBonTheJon> JumBoBoobs: after that installs, k3b should be able to work with mp3s
[03:29] <JumBoBoobs> awome
[03:29] <JumBoBoobs> thank u BonBonTheJon and cpk2
[03:29] <JumBoBoobs> hrm
[03:29] <Shoiab> list your status of PCI device????
[03:29] <JumBoBoobs> the dude from suse was right,boobs get attention :)
[03:30] <intelikey> brad yeah strange aint it.
[03:30] <flaccid_> !libk3b2-mp3
[03:30] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB
[03:30] <flaccid_> hmm yeah JumBoBoobs didn't realise its not mentioned on any of those pages
[03:30] <JumBoBoobs> that worked
[03:30] <JumBoBoobs> awsome
[03:31] <flaccid_> perhaps someone with access to ubotu can make entry for libk3b2-mp3 under !k3bmp3 or something
[03:32] <Shoiab> FreeT15: how i find status of PCI device???
[03:32] <intelikey> !update the bot ?
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update the bot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <Ahmuck> ! update
[03:32] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:32] <Vuen> !ubotu
[03:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:34] <intelikey>  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage  redirrects to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage   so why do they leave the 's' out of it...
[03:34] <Shoiab> FreeT15: how i find status of PCI device???
[03:34] <intelikey> lspci ?
[03:35] <coreymon77> !ubugtu
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubugtu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <luis_lopez> !lspci
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <coreymon77> is ubotu out dated?
[03:36] <intelikey> coreymon77 prolly it's more than a week old.
[03:36] <flaccid_> huh outdated, week old?
[03:36] <intelikey> flaccid_ :)
[03:37] <Shoiab> hmmm; no reply
[03:37] <intelikey> hmmm not quite caught up yet....
[03:43] <prophit> can anyone walk me through on how to install azureus?
[03:44] <cpk2> sudo apt-get install azureus
[03:44] <cpk2> thats it
[03:44] <prophit> whats that cpk?
[03:44] <cpk2> thats the walk through on installing azureus
[03:44] <prophit> do i just type that into the shell?
[03:44] <cpk2> yup
[03:45] <cpk2> you will probably want to go get the 2.5 jar from sourceforge though since the azureus repo is a little old
[03:45] <Shoiab>  i have a problem!!! l am un_able to connect with Internet through ubuntu!!! i install Linuxant modem driver!!! with which kubuntu detected my modem!! but when it hang after verifying user-name & password at login to network!!! i feel it unable to start pppd what i di?????
[03:50] <rawrness> jfun
[03:50] <lters_> Shoiab: try to do a dial with minicom
[03:53] <gl0be> how do I reconfigure xserver when installing a new video card?  Onboard intel -> agp nvidia
[03:53] <lters_> gl0be: x still runing?
[03:54] <gl0be> lters_: no...it fails miserably
[03:54] <lters_> n/p
[03:54] <gl0be> I am chatting from term irc...:-)
[03:54] <lters_> sudo apt-get install vim
[03:54] <gl0be> I have vim
[03:54] <lters_> fancy
[03:54] <lters_> k, good
[03:54] <lters_> colors turned on?
[03:54] <gl0be> indeed
[03:55] <Jucato> gl0be: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:55] <lters_> even better.
[03:55] <gl0be> Jucato: I believe tahtI tried that one already
[03:55] <lters_> what video card is it?
[03:56] <gl0be> nvidia fx 5200 128mb
[03:56] <lters_> lsmod | grep nvidia
[03:56] <lters_> that will show if the modiule/driver is loaded.
[03:56] <gl0be> do I have to do anything with the video bus since I have 2x video cards (onboard + new agp)?
[03:56] <lters_> ah, hmm
[03:57] <Jucato> gl0be: not really. afaik, the AGP overrides the IGP
[03:57] <lters_> is that what the PCI line is about.
[03:57] <lters_> did u do the lsmod test?
[03:57] <gl0be> lsmod | grep nvidia returns nothing
[03:57] <lters_> k, do modprobe nvidia
[03:57] <Jucato> gl0be: you probably don't have the "nvidia" driver installed. use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then select the "nv" driver first
[03:58] <gl0be> Yea, I did that about an hour ago....it detected and selected that driver for me
[03:58] <lters_> Jucato: does the nvidia-glx include the module?
[03:58] <Jucato> lters_: nvidia module? yes
[03:59] <lters_> gl0be: did the modprobe work?
[03:59] <Jucato> but gl0be needs to install the linux-restricted-modules matching his linux-image version for nvidia-glx (non-free driver) to work
[03:59] <gl0be> lters_: ?
[03:59] <intelikey> more like depends on it.
[03:59] <lters_> gl0be: dmesg | tail should show something
[03:59] <gl0be> oh ... I didn't see that.
[03:59] <lters_> gl0be: modprobe nvidia
[04:00] <gl0be> lters
[04:00] <gl0be>  I did the modprobe...it justreturned.
[04:00] <lters_> gl0be: good, do the "dmseg | tail
[04:00] <lters_> dmesg
[04:00] <Jucato> (without the quotes)
[04:00] <lters_> yeah
[04:00] <Jucato> :)
[04:01] <gl0be> I did that too, and nothnig about the video card...bluetooth mainly
[04:01] <Jucato> gl0be: did you install nvidia-glx?
[04:01] <gl0be> no.
[04:02] <lters_> Jucato: is there a nifty way to get the winmodem driver for a thinkpad
[04:03] <lters_> gl0be: u will have to install the nvidia-glx
[04:03] <Jucato> er... um... no clue :(
[04:03] <intelikey> Jucato is that a edgy salamander system ?
[04:03] <gl0be> I got it working with the nv driver.  I think that the problem was that I had kernel framebuffering enabled
[04:03] <lters_> conexion or somthing.
[04:03] <gl0be> thats a guess though
[04:03] <rawrness> whats the one app that emutes a quake terminal it like  yakue or such
[04:03] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:03] <Jucato> intelikey: heh :P
[04:03] <BonBonTheJon> !yakue
[04:03] <cpk2> yakuake i think
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <Jucato> it's a quad-colored butterfly system :)
[04:03] <rawrness> !yakuake
[04:03] <BonBonTheJon> !yakuake
[04:03] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[04:04] <Jucato> !yakuake > BonBonTheJon
[04:04] <cpk2> i win!
[04:04] <rawrness> there we go thanks
[04:04] <Jucato> lol
[04:04] <gl0be> Jucato: lters_: thanks for your help
[04:04] <Jucato> cpk2: only because of a technicality :P
[04:04] <cpk2> hehe
[04:04] <prophit> ok <cpk2>....i followed the instructions on how to install flashplayer 7 but it just keeps saying that the package could not be found
[04:04] <lters_> n/p Gotta love linux
[04:04] <prophit> please help
[04:05] <BonBonTheJon> has anyone heard from the user ubuntu who was trying to fix his windows installation
[04:05] <T3hWiz0r1> BonBonTheJon: we ate him.
[04:06] <rawrness> very tasty
[04:06] <BonBonTheJon> T3hWiz0r1: NOOOOOOOOOO
[04:06] <Jucato> lol. he should have changed his nick to kubuntu to avoid getting digested
[04:06] <rawrness> XD
[04:06] <rawrness> gnomes always taste good
[04:06] <prophit> bonbob thats me
[04:06] <cpk2> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[04:06] <Jucato> dragons love eating gnomes, eh? :)
[04:06] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:06] <prophit> right here
[04:06] <T3hWiz0r1> T3hWiz0rd: LEAVE! NOW!
[04:07] <Jucato> lol
[04:07] <Vuen> why is it that we don't have a free version of the flash plugin? is it not legal or something?
[04:07] <cpk2> prophit: do you have multiverse enabled?
[04:07] <prophit> i have no clue...how would i check?
[04:07] <intelikey> !restricted
[04:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:08] <NightBird> mmmmogg
[04:08] <cpk2> prophit: pastebin your sources.list
[04:08] <prophit> pastebun??????????????/
[04:08] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:08] <intelikey> !paste
[04:08] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin
[04:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:08] <intelikey> lol
[04:08] <Jucato> i win this time :)
[04:08] <BonBonTheJon> lol
[04:09] <NightBird> wow... pastebin is popular...
[04:09] <intelikey> Jucato not on my screen....
[04:09] <Jucato> doesn't matter :P
[04:09] <NightBird> Jucato won on my screen
[04:09] <BonBonTheJon> my screen says i won
[04:09] <intelikey> but i'm sure you did.
[04:09] <Jucato> Vuen: you might want to have a look at this page for Ubuntu's definition of "non-free": http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:09] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: day 3 hmmm... kubuntu lives.
[04:10] <cpk2> Jucato won on my screen
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd> kkathman: rawr
[04:10] <prophit> ok have the pastebun thing open but where are my sources?
[04:10] <Vuen> Jucato: i understand what non free means
[04:10] <Jucato> ok. I won. end of discussion :)
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd> prophit: apt-get sources?
[04:10] <Vuen> i understand the difference between free speech and free beer, thanks
[04:10] <cpk2> prophit: do cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd you haven't been playing with it eeeh ?
[04:10] <Zaire> hey cpk2 what do I have to change on this aside from pass SET PASSWORD FOR<EMAIL_ADDRESS>= PASSWORD('newpass');
[04:10] <cpk2> prophit: or kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: theres only so much i change on linux installs to fit my needs.
[04:11] <Jucato> Vuen: no. that page is more than that distinction. that page explains which packages go into which repository (main, restricted, universe, multiverse)
[04:11] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: my primary needs revolve around security, music playback, stability, and quick web browsing.
[04:11] <Zaire> well pass and name
[04:11] <Vuen> Jucato: i know that too, why are you telling me this?
[04:11] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: but i also play in the terminal... but i install vmware servers for the really crazzzy stuff i try lol
[04:11] <Vuen> i'm asking why no one has written an open source replacement for flash. is it because it wouldn't be legal?
[04:11] <Zaire> ?
[04:12] <cpk2> Zaire: i dont know, i'm not sure if % is supposed to be a wildcard or just acting as foo
[04:12] <Jucato> Vuen: there's always Gnash
[04:12] <flaccid_> what config file(s) does konsole use?
[04:12] <Jucato> flaccid_: what do you mean?
[04:12] <Zaire> well the line I coppied is from the mysql site
[04:12] <flaccid_> Jucato: configuration files for its settings
[04:13] <cpk2> Zaire: and you would need to have an account named bob already made
[04:13] <ssh12543> who can conect here ?(ssh) I give password. help plz
[04:13] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: i try not to break the liunux install I primarily work off of or else its back to using my ibook full time and I hate even trying to do that to my poor ol' lappy
[04:13] <Jucato> flaccid_: ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc I presume?
[04:13] <cpk2> ssh12543: you dont want to do that
[04:13] <flaccid_> Jucato: is that all?
[04:13] <Zaire> I did a format and fresh install of kubuntu
[04:13] <prophit> ok i did that pastebin thing but how are you going to look at it?
[04:13] <cpk2> prophit: paste the location here
[04:13] <ssh12543> cpk2: I need
[04:14] <prophit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27058/
[04:14] <Jucato> flaccid_: well, that would contain the changes the user made. system/admin config files would probably be in /etc/kde3 or /usr/share/. not really sure (not on Linux right now)
[04:14] <Vuen> !Gnash
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <BonBonTheJon> ssh12543: what do you need help with
[04:14] <Zaire> my question though is what is the .loc.gov part of that command for?
[04:14] <Jucato> Vuen: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd> T3hWiz0r1 << wtf? lol
[04:15] <dude> hello
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd> i thought i kicked that out?
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd> wait... lol....
[04:15] <dude> guys
[04:15] <ssh12543> BonBonTheJon: I need test one p2p server. the ssh is the client. you can download the files whith ftp
[04:15] <cpk2> Zaire: oh, the loc.gov is on the mysql help page?
[04:15] <ssh12543> cpk2: I need test one p2p server. the ssh is the client. you can download the files whith ftp
[04:15] <Zaire> cpk2: yea
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd> rofl-copter, i had irssi screened and forgot
[04:15] <cpk2> Zaire: then use your domain
[04:16] <Zaire> so replace that with localhost then
[04:16] <BonBonTheJon> ssh12543: so you have two machines, one running an ftp server, the other is trying to transfer files?
[04:16] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: DUDDEE! whats up!
[04:17] <dude> t3hwizord: cool
[04:17] <Shoia1>
[04:17] <Shoia1> The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!
[04:17] <Shoia1> Exit status: 1
[04:17] <Shoia1> See 'man pppd' for an explanation of the error codes or take a look at the kppp FAQ on http://developer.kde.org/~kppp/index.html
[04:17] <ssh12543> BonBonTheJon: no. 1 server. ftp and p2p client running in 1 machine
[04:17] <cpk2> Zaire: so i guess the name of the computer you are connecting from or its ip would probably work
[04:17] <Shoia1> i get that error
[04:17] <dude> t3hwizord: have you tried beryl?
[04:17] <Zaire> k i'll have to try that
[04:18] <Shoia1> what i du
[04:18] <t3hwiz0rd> nope, I am not really interested in XGL because it is too buggy and can break linux.
[04:18] <Shoia1> im ubuntu
[04:18] <t3hwiz0rd> I've used Compiz and XGL before, and it ate my system.
[04:18] <BonBonTheJon> ssh12543: what is on machine 1
[04:18] <t3hwiz0rd> BonBonTheJon: he said both are on the same machine
[04:18] <dude> t3hwizord: veryl is different from compiz ryt?
[04:19] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: to some degree, but you are still using very beta software.
[04:19] <cpk2> prophit: see this line? # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe delete the # and add multiverse to the end of it
[04:19] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: you need to be prepared for it to do the worst possible.
[04:19] <BonBonTheJon> Shoia1: were we helping you with your windows install before
[04:19] <dude> t3hwizord: well im planing to use beryl nut im still afraid hehehe
[04:19] <cpk2> prophit: so do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then edit it
[04:19] <dude> t3hwizord: well im planing to use beryl but im still afraid hehehe
[04:19] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: its a good idea to fear xgl right now.
[04:20] <t3hwiz0rd> theres really thing in it essential to you, so why not wait until a final release yanno?
[04:20] <ssh12543> BonBonTheJon: FTP server, p2p server. the p2p server download the files and save in ftp. you connect can p2p server in ssh
[04:20] <ssh12543> BonBonTheJon: enter in #ssh123 for password
[04:21] <dude> t3hwizord: i need vmaware to elimanate dual booting, i installed it but i don't know how to use it
[04:21] <t3hwiz0rd> ssh12543: ftp is a really insecure transfer type.
[04:21] <Shoia1> i am not able to understand what you say??? bonbon
[04:21] <intelikey> pfft  no wonder you boast of ubuntu still being running t3hwiz0rd,  you don't even use the new apps/drivers.  (hehhe xgl)
[04:22] <intelikey> :)
[04:22] <dude> i need a complete transition from xp to kubuntu
[04:23] <intelikey> !p2p
[04:23] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:23] <cpk2> dude: how is vmware going to help you get rid of windows?
[04:24] <t3hwiz0rd> dude: vmware server is free to download.
[04:25] <dude> cpk2: as of now im still using some of windows application
[04:25] <intelikey> !vmware
[04:25] <unix_infidel> i fail to see how being virtually rooted is less bad than being physically rooted if its a production setup.
[04:25] <prophit> anyone here use xandros?
[04:25] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:25] <ssh12543> bobesponja: ola, voce aqui ? sou MnB Linuxer
[04:25] <cpk2> dude: and wine cant help you there?
[04:25] <Jucato> hm.. that wiki is for VMWare Player I think
[04:25] <t3hwiz0rd> with vmware do usb devices work in windows on it?
[04:25] <prophit> is this the only channel on irc?....
[04:25] <intelikey> unix_infidel "physically rooted" ???
[04:25] <unix_infidel> !br > ssh12543
[04:25] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: some, but only as usb1 - not high speed.
[04:26] <unix_infidel> !br
[04:26] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:26] <dude> cpk2: hmmm, its kinda slow 4 me
[04:26] <cpk2> prophit: did you edit you sources.list?
[04:26] <cpk2> dude: and emulation is faster?
[04:26] <prophit> eidt them...i dont even know what they are
[04:26] <BonBonTheJon> Shoia1: were you in here before asking how to fix your windows installation
[04:26] <cpk2> [19:20]  <cpk2> prophit: see this line? # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe delete the # and add multiverse to the end of it
[04:26] <cpk2> [19:21]  <cpk2> prophit: so do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then edit it
[04:27] <t3hwiz0rd> LeeJunFan: well if uvc wecams worked on linux i'd be done using windows 100%
[04:27] <dude> cpk2: never tried emulation, that's why i trying to use vmware...
[04:27] <dude> cpk2: never tried emulation, that's why im trying to use vmware...
[04:27] <cpk2> ... vmware is emulation
[04:27] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: webcam's are cheap now, get a new one :)
[04:27] <t3hwiz0rd> LeeJunFan: my fusion is one of the best on the market, i refuse to downgrade for linux :-)
[04:27] <intelikey> there is no default *buntu system that isn't ch/pivot-rooted.  the real root is the ramdisk that the initrd.img sets up.
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: it's not downgrading if it works with linux and the other doesn't :p
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: I would consider using windows for your web cam downgrading.
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd> LeeJunFan: yes, as far as video quality goes, it would be a downgrade if i went to a lower one. Its that type of zealot attitude that makes linux suck in some of the areas it dos.
[04:29] <intelikey> heh from propritary to open is always an upgrade
[04:29] <Zaire> apt for some reason doesn't seem to be able to find the pbpbb2-conf-mysql package
[04:29] <BonBonTheJon> t3hwiz0rd: have you looked into http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[04:29] <t3hwiz0rd> yeah, BonBonTheJon, buggy can't seem to get it to work
[04:30] <cpk2> !info phpbb2-conf-mysql
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: well it (windows) seems like overkill as a 1.5GB driver for your webcam though.
[04:30] <ubotu> phpbb2-conf-mysql: Automatic configurator for phpbb2 on MySQL database. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-2 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 124 kB
[04:30] <Zaire> apt also can't seem to find phpbb2 either
[04:30] <prophit> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse                  is that what i should have?
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> t3hwiz0rd: although HP's printer driver downloads are approaching that size these days :)
[04:30] <Jucato> prophit: yes
[04:31] <cpk2> dude: correct me if I am wrong but vmware should be slower than wine
[04:31] <prophit> ok
[04:31] <Zaire> actually vmwares not half bad but for games big no no
[04:31] <prophit> is that all i have to do?
[04:31] <intelikey> Zaire phpbb2-conf-mysql exists
[04:31] <unix_infidel> well, its "near native" virtualization.
[04:31] <intelikey> phpbb2 - A fully featured and skinnable flat (non-threaded) webforum
[04:31] <unix_infidel> and wine is emulation.
[04:31] <unix_infidel> they arent comparable.
[04:31] <Zaire> I know but my kubuntu seems not to
[04:31] <Jucato> cpk2: it should be. but there are so many things that Wine can't do that VMWare can
[04:31] <dude> cpk2: im using remote desktop, limewire, ftp client, and some windows application that i wanna eliminate,
[04:32] <intelikey> wine is not emulation
[04:32] <unix_infidel> or rather, i'm wrong, wine is not emulation.
[04:32] <Jucato> unix_infidel: wine = Wine Is Not an Emulator
[04:32] <intelikey> wine is wine is not an emulator
[04:32] <unix_infidel> :P
[04:32] <dude> i want complete transition
[04:32] <unix_infidel> yea, i dont know where that came from.
[04:32] <dude> i want acomplete transition
[04:32] <unix_infidel> i should say vmware is near native,
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> dude: krdc for remote desktop
[04:32] <unix_infidel> wine is an attempt at native.
[04:32] <prophit> how to i find a list of rooms on here
[04:32] <dude> LeeJunFan: i can't configure krdc
[04:33] <prophit> or a channel list?
[04:33] <intelikey> prophit don't  /list
[04:33] <Zaire> apparently I still had repo's commented
[04:33] <prophit> dont /list
[04:33] <intelikey> no don't
[04:33] <cpk2> intelikey: I manage to /list without any problems?
[04:33] <unix_infidel> prophit: google freenode and searchirc
[04:33] <Zaire> there we go it found phpbb2
[04:33] <TFrog> has anyone here tried the program kstreamripper?
[04:33] <dude> cpk2: i installed wine but its not working
[04:34] <intelikey> cpk2 ;/
[04:34] <cpk2> !work
[04:34] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:35] <dude> cpk2: actually, im beginning to love ubuntu/kubuntu, the only problem is the application, i need to integrate some of the windows apps to kubuntu
[04:36] <cpk2> dude: but why isnt wine working?
[04:36] <intelikey> why ?
[04:36] <BonBonTheJon> dude: what programs
[04:36] <crazykoga> oh hi
[04:36] <crazykoga> what the hell is this?
[04:36] <prophit> ok how do i join the rooms
[04:36] <BonBonTheJon> crazykoga: hi
[04:36] <crazykoga> this is so cute
[04:36] <crazykoga> lol
[04:36] <cpk2> prophit: /join room
[04:36] <Jucato> prophit: /join #channel
[04:36] <crazykoga> hi
[04:36] <cpk2> prophit: try /join #ubuntu
[04:36] <crazykoga> can someone tell
[04:36] <crazykoga> brb
[04:36] <intelikey> this is a help channel
[04:37] <dude> bonbon: ftp client which is stable, remote desktop,
[04:37] <intelikey> ftp is stable
[04:38] <intelikey> ncftp
[04:38] <BonBonTheJon> dude: how about vnc?
[04:38] <dude> cpk2: how do you use wine, i mean procedure
[04:38] <dude> bonbon: vnc?
[04:38] <intelikey> tight-vnc
[04:38] <BonBonTheJon> !vnc
[04:38] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[04:38] <intelikey> !tight-vnc
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tight-vnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <cpk2> dude: first get a more up to date repo from winehq and then install it with apt-get
[04:38] <cpk2> dude: also winehq has a DB of apps that work with it
[04:38] <dude> cpk2: can i use adept for that
[04:39] <cpk2> dude: yes
[04:39] <BonBonTheJon> dude: have you tried gftp
[04:39] <intelikey> kong does ftp too
[04:40] <intelikey> gentoo does ftp
[04:40] <dude> bonbon; yes, is there a cute ftp for kubuntu? : )
[04:40] <BonBonTheJon> !freenx
[04:40] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:40] <cpk2> isnt konq a ftp client?
[04:40] <intelikey> konqueror does ftp
[04:40] <prophit> oi how do i register my name on nickserv?
[04:40] <intelikey> yes
[04:40] <dude> i can't configure freenx either
[04:40] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[04:41] <Zaire> damn I was so close I got the root account it was going through the process to start creating the database and bang error could not create tables, erro when connecting to the mysql database
[04:41] <dude> cpk2: can you instruct me
[04:41] <dude> cpk2: on how to use wine
[04:41] <cpk2> dude: if you told us what the actual problems were we might be able to help you get this stuff working
[04:41] <cpk2> dude: what are you trying to install with wine?
[04:42] <dude> cpk2: it is already installed
[04:42] <cpk2> Zaire: is mysql running?
[04:42] <dude> !freenx
[04:42] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:42] <Zaire> as far as I know yep
[04:44] <t3hwiz0rd> BonBonTheJon: see i've done the driver install a few times even reinstalled and double checked, it just doesn't seem to work.
[04:44] <dude> cpk2: using wine, how do i use it
[04:44] <Zaire> yep its on
[04:44] <cpk2> Zaire: but you managed to change the root password?
[04:44] <BonBonTheJon> t3hwiz0rd: i dunno, i dont have a webcam
[04:44] <Zaire> well I had to create the root account first but yes
[04:45] <cpk2> dude: wine usethis.exe
[04:45] <dude> can some one guide me in installing freenx
[04:45] <intelikey> dude in a terminal you type in " wine /path/to/file.exe "  that you want to run.
[04:45] <dude> cpk2: terminal window?
[04:45] <Vuen> dude, there's a great guide on ubuntuguide, hold on
[04:45] <cpk2> dude: what intelikey said
[04:45] <Vuen> dude, do you want freenx, because the nomachine nx software is a lot better
[04:46] <Vuen> here's a tutorial on installing nomachine nx:
[04:46] <Vuen> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX
[04:46] <Zaire> mysql> CREATE DATABASE PHPBB2;
[04:46] <Zaire> Query OK, 1 row affected (0.01 sec)
[04:47] <Vuen> it's faster and more stable than freenx, but it's proprietary
[04:47] <Vuen> and it only lets you use up to two sessions at once i think
[04:47] <Vuen> i use it, it works great
[04:48] <intelikey> Vuen is that quite different than tightvnc ?
[04:48] <cpk2> Zaire: that means it worked
[04:48] <cpk2> Zaire: btw the name of the database you are creating doesnt have to be caps
[04:49] <Vuen> intelikey: yes. tightvnc lets you connect to the session in progress, while nx creates a new session
[04:49] <Zaire> cept the phpbb2-con-mysql seemingly can't populate it
[04:49] <intelikey> tightvncserver - virtual network computing server software
[04:49] <Vuen> so someone else can be using your computer while you are working through nx
[04:49] <dude_> cpk2: terminal window?
[04:49] <dude_> can some one guide me in installing freenx
[04:49] <intelikey> ah ok.
[04:49] <t3hwiz0rd> vnc is a disease.
[04:49] <Vuen> or your computer can remain locked while you use nx, and people at the local machine won't be able to log in or affect what you're doing
[04:49] <Vuen> dude: i just gave you a link to installing nx
[04:49] <dude_> what if the program is in the program files directory
[04:49] <Vuen> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX
[04:50] <Vuen> intelikey: nx is also much faster than vnc. it gives you near-local speed, even on slow connections
[04:50] <dude_> can some one guide me in installing freenx
[04:50] <Zaire> dude: go into a command console and type sudo apt-get install <package>
[04:50] <Vuen> it's amazing and wonderful. lets me have my desktop anywhere
[04:50] <Vuen> dude: i just gave you a link twice now. why are you still asking?
[04:50] <Vuen> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX
[04:51] <Vuen> intelikey: nx is graphical :)
[04:51] <intelikey> i'm not.
[04:51] <Vuen> it connects through ssh, so it's all encrypted
[04:51] <Vuen> fullscreen graphical environment
[04:51] <Vuen> literally like you're sitting right in front of your computer
[04:51] <intelikey> Zaire hehhe you don't like ssh  :)
[04:52] <intelikey> ah
[04:52] <Vuen> what's with the /me?
[04:53] <intelikey> guess your use of "the shiz" is strange to me.
[04:53] <Zaire> lol
[04:54] <intelikey> Zaire note.  there is no enflection in the voice in IRC
[04:54] <t3hwiz0rd> is freeNX anymore secure than vnc by chance?
[04:54] <dude_> it is hard for me to follow instruction in linux, first time to use this OS
[04:55] <Zaire> dunno
[04:55] <Kyral> t3hwiz0rd:  yes
[04:55] <dude_> :)
[04:55] <intelikey> both use ssh
[04:55] <Dr_willis> It pays to read a few dozen beginners guides. :)
[04:55] <Zaire> so then not really any diff other then vnc is easier to grab
[04:55] <dude_> Dr_WIllis: hi
[04:55] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: it's basically the same, though it's easier to configure
[04:55] <t3hwiz0rd> oh... Hmmm
[04:55] <Vuen> vnc natively has no encryption, but you can set it up to tunnel through ssh
[04:55] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: when you log in as a client does it take you to the log in screen?
[04:55] <Vuen> whereas nx uses ssh natively
[04:56] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: yep
[04:56] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: let me check it out heh
[04:56] <Vuen> also, guys, freeNX != NX
[04:56] <Vuen> NX is a protocol for remote desktop
[04:56] <Vuen> freeNX is an open source server/client package that uses it
[04:56] <Zaire> to me vnc is something I would only use local never outside line for that I would use ssh alone
[04:56] <Vuen> a proprietary software that uses NX is called NoMachine NX
[04:56] <duende> Help: Does anyone know if Edgy has a text-mode installer?  And if so, how do I access it?
[04:56] <dude_> vuen: i should install the freenx server first
[04:56] <crazykoga> hi hi
[04:56] <Dr_willis> duende,  the alternatve-installer cd is the text mode installer cd
[04:57] <crazykoga> so people what is this
[04:57] <intelikey> nx ?= native X
[04:57] <duende> Dr_willis, ahh shoot, thanks :)
[04:57] <Vuen> it's faster and more stable, and free beer, but proprietary
[04:57] <Vuen> dude, no, you should not install freenx
[04:57] <Dr_willis> duende,  dont ask me why they couldent fit the text intaller on the live cd as well. :(
[04:57] <crazykoga> hi people
[04:57] <Vuen> Zaire: you can tunnel vnc through ssh, so it's just as secure as ssh
[04:57] <crazykoga> lol
[04:58] <Zaire> well if you think about it how many ports do you want to open for possible attackers
[04:58] <duende> Dr_willis, yeah, that would be nice.  Even if you could just add "text" at the end of the kernel line or something :)
[04:58] <Vuen> duende: yes, you need the alternative cd
[04:58] <t3hwiz0rd> Zaire: you should always simply change default ports.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> duende,  yea.. installers always need tweaking.. ubuntu's is useable.. but could use work.
[04:58] <intelikey> Dr_willis i mentioned that at a board meeting, they said maybe next release.
[04:58] <t3hwiz0rd> Zaire: and turn out outside pings on your router.
[04:58] <Zaire> true
[04:58] <t3hwiz0rd> Zaire: right there you stop over 90% at the door, in my humble.
[04:59] <Vuen> Zaire: dude, you don't need to open your vnc port
[04:59] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  i also dont see the point in putting windows sofware on the live cd... perhaps a link/web page TO the stuff...
[04:59] <Vuen> you SHOULDN'T open your vnc port
[04:59] <Vuen> you have just ssh open
[04:59] <Zaire> but for http I keep the defaults and for ftp cause its easier
[04:59] <duende> Dr_willis, is there any minimalistic image so i don't have to re-download a full cd image?
[04:59] <intelikey> that is.  a cli installer script on the live.
[04:59] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: is that how it loads up? via the ssh port?
[04:59] <Vuen> and have vnc listen for connections ONLY from localhost
[04:59] <Dr_willis> duende,  never noticed. I just downlaoded the edgy beta last night. :)
[04:59] <Vuen> then you connect through ssh and tunnel the vnc port
[04:59] <intelikey> windows software Dr_willis ?
[04:59] <Vuen> VNC can be just as secure as SSH
[04:59] <Vuen> and just as secure as NX
[04:59] <Zaire> windows highly insecure for server apps
[05:00] <Vuen> i don't use VNC because it's slow and it sucks
[05:00] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  look on the ubuntu/kubuntu? live cd.. they include several GPL windows packages , Abiword, and others...
[05:00] <Vuen> and it doesn't give me a new session
[05:00] <intelikey> abiword was requested.  what others ?
[05:00] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: yes, nx connects through the ssh port
[05:00] <Vuen> you don't need to open any extra ports, and you don't need to run a separate ssh session
[05:01] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: hmm...   Thats what 'The Open CD' is for.. but now THATS became a live cd as well last i looked.
[05:01] <intelikey> there were several requests for abiword   but i don't know why they have both abi and oo
[05:02] <Lunar_Raven> !bittornado
[05:02] <ubotu> bittornado: bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 151 kB, installed size 848 kB
[05:02] <intelikey> one or the other but both ?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Heck - i dont even want OO on the normal install. :)
[05:02] <_rockstar> Hm, just installed the Edgy 64 bit version, and KDM doesn't want to let me into KDE...  Just a blank screen and back to login.  Any ideas?
[05:02] <intelikey> yeah that's my point.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> but that aint going to happen. :)
[05:02] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: sure it would. the nomachine client is cross-platform
[05:02] <Vuen> and you don't need an ssh client
[05:02] <Vuen> just the nx client
[05:02] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: ah okay... i installed it, but i can't find it lol
[05:02] <Vuen> what did you install?
[05:03] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: freenx
[05:03] <intelikey> :)
[05:03] <Vuen> on your linux box?
[05:03] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: yuppers
[05:03] <Vuen> yeah, uninstall that
[05:03] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: ..why?
[05:03] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: i am trying to get it served from here.
[05:03] <Vuen> read this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Access_via_NX
[05:04] <intelikey> cause he don't like it
[05:04] <Vuen> install nomachine nx instead of freenx
[05:05] <t3hwiz0rd> okay
[05:05] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: the intstructions make bad sense to me though lol
[05:06] <Vuen> The following instructions will install the free version of NX server from Nomachine. We do NOT recommend attempting to use FreeNX (open source) server at this time, because of the difficulty many users have had in getting it to work. Should it become easier to install FreeNX and to get it working reliably, we may modify these instructions accordingly.
[05:06] <driz> hey guys i'm trying to install a tar.gz file ./configure doesn't work neither does make
[05:06] <driz> >?
[05:06] <Blacken> I can't remember offhand, but is there a CLI utility that will autodetect operating systems on partitions and rewrite boot.lst?
[05:06] <driz> help
[05:06] <Blacken> Similar to the Debian/Ubuntu installer's little trick.
[05:06] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: what does it mean in the "download these files from" part
[05:07] <Vuen> it means exactly what it says
[05:07] <Vuen> click the links, download the files
[05:07] <intelikey> hey.  i have a strange question.  (most of mine are)  if i have one account with no passwd, is there any way to use that account over ssh ?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> driz,  install the build-essential package for a start
[05:08] <intelikey> and nosuid that ^
[05:08] <Blacken> intelikey: I believe it will fail out, but a blank password may work.
[05:08] <Vuen> intelikey: yeah, you can tell ssh what accounts you want to use or not use, but that's almost certainly a bad idea
[05:08] <Dr_willis> ya could set up the ssh to use the keys stuff couldent ya.
[05:08] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: ahh oaky i get it now.
[05:08] <Vuen> ssh without a password = bad
[05:08] <driz> ok, how?
[05:08] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: oops i closed the window
[05:08] <intelikey> Vuen i have lot's of "bad ideas"   :)
[05:08] <Vuen> driz: a tar.gz file is just an archive
[05:08] <Vuen> type tar -xvsf <filename>
[05:09] <crazykoga> ho
[05:09] <crazykoga> hi
[05:09] <driz> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[05:09] <intelikey> Vuen and yes. i would use a kernel that can handel security breaches if i was going to do that.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> driz,  what are you trying to isntall anyway?
[05:10] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen:   Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
[05:10] <intelikey> driz that's too late.  look above it to the error that caused that.
[05:10] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[05:10] <driz> Dr_willis: firefox rc2
[05:11] <Vuen> do that until you have all the dependencies
[05:11] <Dr_willis> driz you are planing on compiling firefox?
[05:11] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: i got it
[05:11] <Dr_willis> and you dont even know how to uncompress a tar archive.. Ick. :)
[05:12] <t3hwiz0rd> okay its almost installed.
[05:12] <driz> intelikey:   tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[05:12] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: cool
[05:12] <driz> Dr_willis: ...
[05:12] <Dr_willis> dont sound like you downloaded the right file.. or its a bad download
[05:13] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: once you finish the walkthrough, run the nx client, and try connecting to localhost 22
[05:13] <crazykoga> hi people
[05:13] <Vuen> set it to fullscreen for great effect
[05:13] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: okay, i hope theres an nx client for os x lol
[05:13] <Vuen> once it works, try it on a friend's computer
[05:13] <Vuen> yes, there is
[05:13] <driz> i know i downloaded the right from their websites
[05:13] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-macosx.php
[05:13] <intelikey> driz then it may be incomplete.  or an executable wrapped around an archive....
[05:14] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: if you have a dynamic dns, you'll need to set up a static hostname
[05:14] <Smotang> Hello World! This is my first Time on IRC and I just installed Ubuntu!
[05:14] <Vuen> use dyndns.org and ddclient
[05:14] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: how do you stop and restart it?
[05:14] <Smotang> So is this a general chat or a help channel?
[05:15] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: stop and restart what?
[05:15] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: nx
[05:15] <driz> intelikey: oh no it's fine i'm sure
[05:15] <Vuen> Smotang: it's a general kubuntu chat or a help channel :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> driz,  if you really MUST try the firefox2 alpha stuff - you may want to check out   http://klik.atekon.de/  - and install it using the klik system.. at least that way it shouldent screw up much :P you can install it just for a single user.
[05:15] <Smotang> vuen: thanks
[05:15] <Smotang> What program in Ubuntu would be used to play MP3's?
[05:15] <intelikey> driz tar is not bad to error out on a real/complete tar archive....
[05:15] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: sudo /etc/init.d/nxserver restart
[05:16] <intelikey> driz what's the command you ran ?
[05:16] <Vuen> but you'll also need to restart ssh once you configure it to use the nx keys file
[05:16] <rawrness> will not amaorak work in gnome?
[05:16] <Vuen> rawrness: amarok will work in gnome
[05:16] <rawrness> then amaroak
[05:16] <Vuen> rawrness: it will be a bit slower because it will use kde libs, but it will work great
[05:16] <rawrness> amorak owns
[05:16] <rawrness> *dances about like a idot*
[05:17] <Vuen> Smotang: any media player in ubuntu will play mp3s. what you need is the codecs.
[05:17] <Smotang> Ah i see!
[05:17] <Vuen> !codecs > Smotang
[05:17] <Zaire> you don't require codecs for xmms to play them
[05:17] <Dr_willis> The Kubuntu FAQ has some info on what packages to isntall for mp3 playback
[05:17] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: ahh how nice! it works
[05:17] <cpk2> Smotang: since you are using kubuntu you should be able to get media working in just one step!
[05:17] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: and this is 100% encrypted as ssh right?
[05:17] <driz> intelikey: i did cd Desktop/firefox then "./configure"--> did not work then tried  "make" did not work
[05:18] <Dr_willis> driz,  have you installed  the 'build-essential' package yet?
[05:18] <Smotang> Vuen: im using gaim to talk at the moment? Did you send me the codecs then? I just heard the "noise".
[05:18] <Vuen> i didn't send you any codecs
[05:18] <driz> Dr_willis: i just did
[05:18] <Vuen> i just told the bot to message you about codecs
[05:18] <Vuen> !codecs
[05:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:18] <driz> Dr_willis: still nothing
[05:18] <Smotang> ah thank
[05:19] <Smotang> thanks
[05:19] <Dr_willis> i dident think the codec pages mention the mp3 stuff
[05:19] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[05:19] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: my users and groups management doesn't work :-(
[05:19] <Dr_willis> driz,  you need to give us a LITTLE more info then 'nothing'
[05:19] <Ashex> !samba
[05:19] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:19] <Zaire> it does jjust takes some readin lol
[05:19] <Vuen> !mp3
[05:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:19] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: there was a user created called nx, should I delete this?
[05:19] <Vuen> Smotang: visit the restricted formats link. it will explain how to install it.
[05:19] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: NO
[05:19] <Vuen> oops caps lock
[05:19] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: okay okay... lol calm down
[05:19] <Vuen> :/
[05:19] <Vuen> sorry, caps
[05:20] <Vuen> anyway, no. the nx user runs the nxserver
[05:20] <intelikey> driz what has that got to do with "<driz> intelikey:   tar: This does not look like a tar archive"   i guess you got past that error.................
[05:20] <Vuen> it's a separate user from your normal user so that it doesn't have your priveledges, but it also doesn't have root
[05:20] <driz> driz@enErgy:~/Desktop/firefox$ sudo make
[05:20] <driz> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:21] <Smotang> How do i Check what version of Ubuntu I am running?
[05:21] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: so is there a way to enable/disable nx? or is it really not a security threat?
[05:21] <driz> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[05:21] <Vuen> Smotang: what is it called? breezy = 5.04, dapper = 6.06, edgy = 6.10
[05:21] <intelikey> don't sudo make..... run make as user.   but i'm still wondering about the archive error.....
[05:21] <Vuen> Smotang: the version numbers don't really mean anything, they're just the release dates. 6.06 = june 2006
[05:21] <Smotang> Oh!
[05:22] <Smotang> thanks!
[05:22] <Vuen> Smotang: you're probably running dapper drake, which is 6.06
[05:22] <intelikey> Smotang lsb_release -a
[05:22] <Vuen> intelikey: ah that works :)
[05:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: is there a way to disable the server?
[05:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: like enable-disable nxserver?
[05:23] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: um, you can stop it, just sudo /etc/init.d/nxserver stop
[05:23] <Vuen> to disable it permanently, i don't know
[05:23] <driz> intelikey: tar -xvsf '/home/driz/Desktop/firefox-2.0rc3.tar.gz'    this just ran and i guess worked
[05:23] <Vuen> why would you want to disable it, anyway?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> i always forget the command to remove a service.
[05:23] <Vuen> there's no reason not to just leave it running permanently
[05:23] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: if i don't want people accessing it.
[05:24] <intelikey> Vuen man update-rc.d
[05:24] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: but if its encrypted yeah i guess thats true... I just don't want people logging in and hording resources.
[05:24] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: people won't be able to access it if you put a password on it. anyway it all runs through ssh
[05:24] <Dr_willis> ' update-rc.d '  now theres an oddly named command. :)   descriptive i guess..
[05:25] <Vuen> best to just put a strong password on it (>=8 chars, at least one uppercase character, at least one number, at least one symbol)
[05:25] <Vuen> and leave it running permanently
[05:25] <thompa> anyone running edgy and kdm having a problem loading kde?
[05:25] <Vuen> you'll never know when you'll be away from your computer and wanting to log in
[05:25] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: do that to the nx account?
[05:25] <intelikey> Dr_willis *buntu has  update-<every #^^%$# thing>
[05:25] <Vuen> no
[05:25] <thompa> gdm gets me to kubuntu fine btw
[05:25] <Vuen> don't change the nx account
[05:25] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: okay. My passwrods are already strong.
[05:26] <Vuen> then you're all set
[05:26] <Smotang> Ok the media Player that i have is called totem? is that what you were asking about?
[05:26] <Zaire> hey cpk2 is it alright if I pm you?
[05:26] <intelikey> Dr_willis and they're all scripts... heh
[05:27] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  we need more scripts captian!
[05:27] <Vuen> Smotang: if you're using totem, then you're on gnome... what brings you to #kubuntu?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> What no 'service' command? !
[05:27] <intelikey> it the rc.d
[05:27] <thompa> kubuntu edgy is the best ive ever run so fat
[05:28] <Smotang> Oh my bad! im on the wrong IRC channel. Sorry I am very new.
[05:28] <driz> intelikey: i dont think the command work it just listed the files, to extract them i think
[05:29] <intelikey> driz no the -x means extract.
[05:29] <Zaire> I almost have phpbb2 installed Im just having trouble pointing the install to a db
[05:29] <intelikey> driz where ever you ran in look for the new dir named simular to the tarball name.
[05:30] <Zaire> whats a standard prefix for a phpbb2_ table?
[05:31] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: this is pretty neet
[05:31] <driz> intelikey: the folder is called firefox and i'm in the directory right now
[05:32] <intelikey> driz look for files with all caps names.   README INSTALL  and such like.   read them.
[05:32] <driz> ok
[05:33] <intelikey> ls | grep -e "[A-Z] "
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Well i was going to suggest trying out the Firefox Beta on the Klik site.. but i cant get their stuff working now... silly site.
[05:33] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: yep. tried it on a remote computer yet?
[05:33] <Vuen> t3hwiz0rd: walk over to a friend's house and try it out. set it fullscreen for great effect.
[05:33] <intelikey> silly site.  what'a sight.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> http://klik.atekon.de/
[05:34] <conejo_dido> hi to everyone
[05:34] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: it seems like i runs almost as good as M$ RDP
[05:34] <conejo_dido> I want to update kaffeine but anyone knows where I could find a binary package_
[05:35] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: it*
[05:35] <conejo_dido> ?
[05:35] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: sorry for using a bad word lol
[05:35] <intelikey> ssh "Protocol 2"  isn't that slightly slower than "Protocol 1"  ?
[05:35] <Vuen> mmm, i don't know about rdp
[05:36] <driz> intelikey: provides no help neither does th site
[05:37] <t3hwiz0rd> Vuen: rdp is something M$ did nicely actually, i have to give it to them.
[05:37] <intelikey> Vuen what do you mean "set it fullscreen"  ?
[05:37] <Vuen> intelikey: you can make the nx client run fullscreen
[05:37] <Vuen> so it looks like you're sitting right at the desktop
[05:38] <Vuen> just remember that the "magic pixel" is in the top right corner of the screen
[05:38] <intelikey> Vuen you mean as in,  'in a gui' ?
[05:38] <Vuen> ?
[05:38] <intelikey> Vuen can't you use that from console ?
[05:38] <Zaire> cana anyone tell me what this means
[05:38] <Zaire> An error has occurred during installation
[05:38] <Zaire> The PHP configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that you chose
[05:39] <Vuen> use what from console? nx?
[05:39] <intelikey> yeah
[05:39] <Vuen> i don't think you understand what nx is.
[05:39] <driz> later man going to oh well
[05:39] <intelikey> Vuen i must not.
[05:39] <Vuen> nx is a remote desktop protocol
[05:39] <Vuen> it's for connecting to your desktop remotely
[05:39] <intelikey> yeah so can't you run it in a console ?
[05:39] <Vuen> as in, graphical
[05:39] <Vuen> you can run the program from a console, sure
[05:39] <Vuen> but it runs in x...
[05:40] <intelikey> so it requires X ?
[05:40] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: it is a little faster than X forwarding on ssh if you need a program that only runs in gui
[05:40] <intelikey> i see.
[05:43] <Vuen> hmm
[05:43] <Vuen> intelikey: perhaps some screenshots would help explain: http://www.nomachine.com/screenshot/windows-client.php
[05:43] <intelikey> so basicly the only real use for that would be either  1. eye candy.   or 2. to remotely run an Xapp on a remote boxen.
[05:43] <Vuen> eye candy?
[05:44] <Vuen> dude.
[05:44] <Vuen> i don't even know what to say.
[05:44] <Vuen> you can't do everything inside a freaking console
[05:44] <Vuen> can you use gimp in a console? can you browse graphically in a console?
[05:44] <intelikey> what can i don't do ?
[05:44] <intelikey> can you browse graphically in a console?   do it all the time
[05:44] <Vuen> can you do serious web development in a console?
[05:44] <Vuen> can you test and debug graphical software in a console?
[05:45] <Vuen> there's more to using a computer than a freaking command line, they invented a mouse for a reason!
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Blasphmy!
[05:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <Vuen> i mean, seriously
[05:46] <Vuen> use word. in a console. do it.
[05:46] <intelikey> Dr_willis agreed.     should we stone him now or wait till we have witnesses ?
[05:46] <Vuen> let's see it.
[05:46] <Vuen> i want you to write an academic paper and print it out in a console.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> I use TeX in the console.. and had better looking papers then the guys using word.
[05:46] <Vuen> Dr_willis: i use tex in a console too, i use vi
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Vuen,  TeX, nroff, easially do that. :)
[05:46] <Vuen> but you need a graphical environment to see the output!
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Ive helped many professors use tex for their  books.
[05:47] <intelikey> heh 'word'  hehhe
[05:47] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  :) we had a 'mac lab' :)
[05:47] <Vuen> *sigh* word was just an example of a typesetting program everyone knows about
[05:47] <Vuen> you can't seriously expect to write a document in a console without at some point looking at the output
[05:47] <Dr_willis> I rember upgrading from using nroff, to TeX and LaTeX
[05:47] <Vuen> you need to LOOK at the document at SOME POINT
[05:48] <Vuen> unless you want to keep printing it every time you want to see it
[05:48] <intelikey> Vuen looking at the output is not a problem tho...
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Vuen,  we had  preview programs that could render the TeX output on the serial terminals.. some how. :P
[05:48] <Dr_willis> it was a textronics  thang I guess.,
[05:48] <Dr_willis> NOW you make me feel old.
[05:48] <intelikey> Dr_willis you are old.   you old coot
[05:48] <Vuen> i give up. i feel like i'm arguing with my grandfather, and he's explaining to me in painful detail why indoor plumbing is unnecessary and wasteful
[05:49] <intelikey> :)
[05:49] <Vuen> EMBRACE TECHNOLOGY
[05:49] <Vuen> GAH
[05:49] <intelikey> Vuen for what ?
[05:49] <intelikey> gui's are over rated.
[05:50] <Vuen> yep. overrated. just like indoor plumbing.
[05:50] <Vuen> i could just as easily take a bucket outside and fill 'er up at the ol' well
[05:50] <intelikey> apples and bananas
[05:50] <Dr_willis> ITs not Rocket Surgery!
[05:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:50] <Jucato> or just wait for the rain to come down :)
[05:50] <intelikey> prezactly
[05:50] <Jucato> Hobbsee!! :)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Printing the docs was exactly what we did ages ago to see what the thing looked like.
[05:51] <Vuen> yes, but that's not necessary anymore!
[05:51] <Vuen> in a graphical environment you can see the output INSTANTLY!
[05:51] <Dr_willis> of coruse TeX is such a kicking system.. it was rarely needed then.
[05:51] <intelikey> Dr_willis yeah
[05:51] <Vuen> INSTANTLY! this is why we have high resolution monitors! high color depth!
[05:52] <Dr_willis> I even helped teach a class on TeX
[05:52] <intelikey> Vuen yep.   eye candy.
[05:52] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[05:52] <Vuen> *sigh*
[05:52] <intelikey> figured.
[05:52] <rawrness> thanks btw for your help intelikey and dr
[05:52] <rawrness> yesterday
[05:52] <Vuen> well anyway, i have a meeting, a midterm, and an assignment due tomorrow
[05:52] <Vuen> and it's midnight
[05:52] <Vuen> i better get some work done :(
[05:52] <rawrness> i ended up just reinstalling off the alternet cd though
[05:52] <intelikey> rawrness any time.
[05:53] <Vuen> aurevoir
[05:53] <rawrness> netherless thanks
[05:53] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: now lets face reality and accept the gui eh? honestly... you're not proving much to anyone by being a "Rebel" of the system.
[05:53] <rawrness> But i do wonder why did the live cd not work while the alternet did ......
[05:53] <t3hwiz0rd> the gui came to exist from the best hackers in the world, why not embrace their work?
[05:53] <intelikey> rawrness sorry i couldn't help more,  but i waiting for indoor plumming you know....
[05:53] <rawrness> Fun.
[05:54] <intelikey> :)
[05:54] <t3hwiz0rd> rawrness: some of the isos available at kubuntu.org seem to be... well... no good... lol
[05:54] <rawrness> funny story though i ended up deleting the linux partion some how
[05:54] <rawrness> and completly screwed everything up
[05:54] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd you too ?
[05:54] <Frederick> folks how do I turn of the auto adjust of the clock for summer time?
[05:54] <rawrness> funnyer the live cd was not a iso
[05:55] <rawrness> it came right from canoical
[05:55] <rawrness> and its nice and bluish
[05:55] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: i use a mixture of the two, but im not a zealot.  But some people I could see getting mad at you :-P
[05:59] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: just expressing an opinion, not personal dislike.
[05:59] <intelikey> Jucato :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> rawrness,  a new way to get eye candy for the desktop
[05:59] <rawrness> I see
[05:59] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: you've been helpful and for that I do appreciate you being around.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> rawrness,  give it a few months and you will be seeing it. :P
[05:59] <rawrness> is it good?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> rawrness,  i consider it annoying eye candy..
[06:00] <rawrness> odywells
[06:00] <whyso> xgl and compics are a 3d windows manager
[06:00] <rawrness> I see
[06:00] <t3hwiz0rd> rawrness: its pretty much a beta gui that will eat your linux install sooner or later.
[06:00] <rawrness> good th ing it didn't work
[06:00] <Dr_willis> use it to impress your fiends.. then disable to do real work. :)
[06:00] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd one thing i am not. 'political'  i could hardly care less who thinks what of me....
[06:00] <rawrness> XD
[06:00] <Dr_willis> and go back to the console
[06:01] <whyso> too bad xgl compics isnt on live CD, would be good one for that
[06:01] <ShillelaghLaw> grub ate my WinXP install last week  x.X
[06:01] <t3hwiz0rd> ShillelaghLaw: it didn't eat it... it simply lost the path to it.
[06:01] <dude_> Dr._Willis: is it safe to install beryl?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  Hmm.. normally its a XP eats my grub thing...
[06:01] <ShillelaghLaw> lol...  more or less
[06:01] <Dr_willis> dude_,  i wouldent touch it.
[06:01] <t3hwiz0rd> rebuilding grub is easy.
[06:01] <dude_> Dr._Willis: why?
[06:02] <ShillelaghLaw> I wouldn't really care, but I miss Battlefield Vietnam  =P
[06:02] <whyso> damn, just installed kubuntu, but when i try to mount my 2nd hard drive it jsut say "unknown error has occured"
[06:02] <Dr_willis> find a live cd that has the stuff onit.. to play with..  then enjoy it.. then reboot to get work done. :)
[06:02] <t3hwiz0rd> Dr_willis: i should slap you for using the dreaded R-word infront of me :-P
[06:03] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd  did you by chance read what brought on all the  cli/gui dialog ?
[06:03] <ShillelaghLaw> is there a good article on how to rebuild grub anywhere?
[06:03] <Frederick> folks how do I turn off the auto adjust of the clock for summer time?
[06:03] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: breifly I had an angry GF breathing down my neck about how i pay more attention to the computer than her.
[06:03] <whyso> i have no clue how to get it to work :( just partitioned it with qtpart and STILL wont mount it
[06:03] <ShillelaghLaw> because I tried changing the menus.list file, and it didn't really help
[06:04] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd  just wondering.
[06:04] <t3hwiz0rd> intelikey: i had a few words for Vuen_away too but hes away lol
[06:04] <ShillelaghLaw> err, menu.list...  and there was some other file someone told me to change stuff in
[06:04] <ShillelaghLaw> that one didn't help either
[06:04] <t3hwiz0rd> I sat back down right as he logged.
[06:05] <whyso> LOL wizord i get that all the time
[06:05] <intelikey> ShillelaghLaw  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:05] <whyso> anyone have a clue how i can get my 2nd HD to mount?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> whyso,  learn how to mount them.. edit the fstab.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> whyso,  what kind of partitons are on the hd?
[06:05] <intelikey> whyso add entries to /etc/fstab
[06:06] <whyso> ext3
[06:06] <whyso> thanks
[06:07] <Dr_willis> mounting of drives is a Linux 101 Week 1 sort of thing. :)
[06:07] <intelikey> whyso  mount && sudo fdisk -l        will both yeld information appropose
[06:07] <Dr_willis> heh heh.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> The College of Whats-Matta-Tux
[06:08] <intelikey> Dr_willis not anymore.
[06:08] <Frederick> JDStone: /join ##nonlogic
[06:08] <ShillelaghLaw> I know- I worked with the menu.lst file.  I didn't have any luck with it.  could it be something else?  it says something about not recognizing the partition type.
[06:08] <whyso> hehe thanks (yes i am new)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  its possible its confused abouyt what drives are where.
[06:09] <intelikey> Dr_willis anymore you learn how to use gaim and amsn and limewire    but know nothing about the system.   it seems so M$ like.
[06:09] <ShillelaghLaw> that's true- I never thought about that.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  you just lost 100 geek points!
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:09] <ShillelaghLaw> I tried reinstalling Kubuntu to see if it would reinstall/configure grub for me, but it didn't.  I'll go look up some more about configuring grub.
[06:09] <ShillelaghLaw> thank you
[06:09] <intelikey> lol
[06:09] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  now thats odd... how is your system laid out?
[06:09] <flaccid_> ShillelaghLaw: there is a command to reconfigure grub, that what you looking for?
[06:10] <ShillelaghLaw> yes, actually
[06:10] <ShillelaghLaw> that would really help
[06:10] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,   a reinstall SHOULD of fixed it.. whats a command going to do that the installer dident. :)
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Logical thinking here. :)
[06:10] <digivore> is 'sudo' just an ubuntu thing?
[06:10] <ShillelaghLaw> true  x.X
[06:10] <whyso> what do i do after mount && sudo fdisk -l
[06:10] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  you may want to check out the   /boot/grub/device.map
[06:10] <intelikey> digivore no
[06:11] <ShillelaghLaw> ok, thanks
[06:11] <ShillelaghLaw> I'll check that now
[06:11] <intelikey> digivore but ubuntu over uses it.
[06:11] <flaccid_> ShillelaghLaw: sudo update-grub
[06:11] <Dr_willis> ShillelaghLaw,  its possible the grub menu.lst is thinking the drives are in a different spot then what they are shown there.
[06:11] <Zaire> k anyone know where the php config file would be?
[06:11] <flaccid_> should never have to reinstall the os..
[06:11] <Dr_willis> whyso,   read the man pages for mount, is a start. fdisk -l shows what drives are on what  locations
[06:11] <intelikey> Zaire did you look in /etc
[06:11] <whyso> ok, thanks
[06:12] <Zaire> yea I can't see it
[06:12] <digivore> intelikey, i am running kubuntu, but just installed e17,  however seems that e17 doesn't automatically run ' sudo' when opening some items on my start menu
[06:12] <Dr_willis> whyso, check the fstab for examples
[06:12] <Hawkwind> digivore: It's not supposed to
[06:12] <Zaire> Im trying to get it to work with mysql-server so as to install phpbb2
[06:13] <flaccid_> Zaire: whats the problem. php in configured with php.ini
[06:13] <dhq> how do i run javavm
[06:13] <flaccid_> dhq: the java command
[06:13] <mattik> Hello. How do I change to copy mode in text mode?
[06:13] <Zaire> ?
[06:13] <intelikey> digivore e17 is not a ubuntu package is it ?    it won't be configured for the special use of the root jr. account  aka sudo    you will need to edit the menu manually i guess.
[06:13] <dhq> flaccid_: howz that
[06:14] <flaccid_> dhq: you run the command java
[06:14] <flaccid_> to run a java application?
[06:14] <digivore> Hawkwind, when i use KDE and i try to open my wireless assistant, it worked like normal, but when i do it in e17 it tells me i "dont' have permissions - did you use sudo first"
[06:14] <Zaire> Im trying to install a phpbb2 forum but its not recognizing the mysql database
[06:14] <BonBonTheJon> Zaire: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[06:14] <Hawkwind> digivore: That's KDE.  E17 is *not* a desktop environment like KDE.  In fact, it's far from it
[06:14] <digivore> ok, so i will have to type in sudo before the items on the menu editor
[06:15] <flaccid_> Zaire: what is the error?
[06:15] <mattik> Hello. How do I change to copy mode in text mode? I want to paste my Xorg.log to pastebin. I cannot start X in DApper.
[06:15] <dhq> flaccid_:dhq@dhq-laptop:~$ java Usage: gij [OPTION]  ... CLASS [ARGS]  ...          to invoke CLASS.main, or       gij -jar [OPTION]  ... JARFILE [ARGS]  ...          to execute a jar fileTry `gij --help' for more information.
[06:15] <ShillelaghLaw> thanks guys- I'm going to go and give it another try
[06:15] <Hawkwind> digivore: How did you install E17 btw ?
[06:15] <flaccid_> dhq: that is correct
[06:15] <Zaire> An error has occurred during installation
[06:15] <Zaire> The PHP configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that you chose
[06:16] <flaccid_> Zaire: what database type did you select?
[06:16] <Zaire> I chose mysql-4/5
[06:16] <dhq> flaccid_: so how do i run the virtual machine
[06:16] <flaccid_> Zaire: that is the server version not database type.
[06:16] <crazykoga> hi people
[06:16] <flaccid_> dhq: i have already told you. the java command. what are you trying to run?
[06:16] <crazykoga> hows it going!!
[06:16] <digivore> Hawkwind, from a cvs....  took me 2 weeks to figure it out!  just got it going.
[06:17] <crazykoga> can someone tell me what is this?
[06:17] <Zaire> according to the install page its the DB type
[06:17] <crazykoga> well
[06:17] <crazykoga> T_T
[06:17] <crazykoga> nigth everyone
[06:17] <flaccid_> Zaire: what mysql servers are supported by the application?
[06:17] <BonBonTheJon> crazykoga: what is your question
[06:18] <dhq> flaccid_: well i downloaded jalbum.bin which requires thejava vm to be running
[06:18] <crazykoga> dont worry im going to bed thanks lol
[06:18] <crazykoga> night
[06:18] <Zaire> mysql 4 to mysql 5
[06:18] <whyso> whyso
[06:18] <Zaire> I have mysql-server 5.0.21
[06:18] <whyso> sry typo
[06:18] <Hawkwind> digivore: LOL.  You do know there are scripts out there that will do it all for you ?
[06:18] <flaccid_> Zaire: this is phpbb?
[06:18] <Zaire> phpbb2 yep
[06:18] <Hawkwind> digivore: Plus I have both Dapper and Edgy deb repos for *Ubuntu of E17
[06:18] <flaccid_> dhq: what type of file is jalbum.bin meant to be?
[06:19] <flaccid_> Zaire: how did you install phpbb?
[06:19] <Zaire> I haven't thats what Im trying to do
[06:19] <dhq> flaccid_: http://jalbum.net/
[06:19] <larson9999> is it just my or is ff r2 a lot faster?
[06:20] <Hawkwind> larson9999: It's faster, but swiftfox is even faster than firefox :)
[06:20] <flaccid_> Zaire: ask in #phpbb or read phpbb's documentation.
[06:20] <BonBonTheJon> Hawkwind: how do you install swiftfox
[06:20] <digivore> Hawkwind,  Yah i used a script, but first i tried to get it through synaptic and that didn't work at all!  but found a good script
[06:20] <larson9999> Hawkwind: swiftfox?  i can't keep up with all the browsers
[06:20] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: http://getswiftfox.com
[06:21] <larson9999> oh, it's a version of ff
[06:21] <flaccid_> Zaire: are you installing the package ie. sudo apt-get install phpbb2 ?
[06:21] <Zaire> I have asked and they can't seem to help me other then sayin change this line in the ini and the line doesn exist cause it points to a dll this is a linux server
[06:21] <Hawkwind> larson9999: It's based on firefox code, but it's optimized.  It uses all your firefox settings.  But it's tons quicker, takes up less memory, and doesn't leak as bad
[06:21] <digivore> Hawkwind, repos for *ubuntu of e17?   what do you mean
[06:21] <Hawkwind> larson9999: No it's not a *version of ff* at all
[06:21] <Zaire> no the apt method failed worse
[06:21] <dhq> flaccid_: any idea
[06:21] <Hawkwind> digivore: I have built deb packages for *Ubuntu of E17 for both Dapper and Edgy
[06:21] <flaccid_> dhq: i'm looking
[06:21] <BonBonTheJon> Hawkwind: how do i find which processor build to use
[06:22] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: What type of computer do you have
[06:22] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: You hopefully know the specs of your system
[06:22] <digivore> Hawkwind,  really?  meaning this could have been alot easier?  how do you install deb packages anyways?
[06:22] <larson9999> Hawkwind: in my imprecise use of english i call things based of other projects code, versions.  but i get the point.
[06:22] <flaccid_> Zaire: perhaps you have not installed the package php5-mysql
[06:22] <BonBonTheJon> Hawkwind: laptop with intel celeron, but i dont know which type
[06:22] <Zaire> -_- now someone tells me
[06:22] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: Intel Celeron what ?
[06:22] <flaccid_> Zaire: ?
[06:22] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: cat /proc/cpuinfo might shed some light
[06:23] <Hawkwind> digivore: Now that you have it installed it from CVS no need to worry about the deb packages.  You're good to go
[06:23] <Zaire> no I didn't have that
[06:23] <digivore> can you upgrade from edgy do dapper?  i have dapper but i'm just curious why someone would continue to work with an older version...
[06:23] <flaccid_> dhq: did you read the instructions on http://jalbum.net/download3.jsp ?
[06:24] <flaccid_> Zaire: php doesn't have mysql support by default in versions 5 and above
[06:24] <Dr_willis> digivore,  dapper is the long term support/stable line.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> digivore,  why upgrade if everything works. :P
[06:24] <Hawkwind> digivore: Edgy is the next release of Ubuntu.  You are probably using Dapper now.  Edgy will be released on the 26th of this month
[06:24] <flaccid_> dhq: the .bin is a binary. you run that with .sh as per the instructions to install. you should always read the documentation :)
[06:24] <larson9999> Hawkwind: if it's much faster, i'll get dizzy
[06:24] <intelikey> lsb_release -a
[06:25] <digivore> ohhh   i see   i thought edgy was an older version
[06:25] <intelikey> digivore  lsb_release -a
[06:25] <dhq> flaccid_: i did that still i get no vm found
[06:25] <dude_> moma: you there?
[06:25] <larson9999> the new release should be soon, right?
[06:25] <flaccid_> dhq: what says no vm found?
[06:25] <intelikey> larson9999 the 26th
[06:25] <dhq> yes
[06:26] <flaccid_> dhq: what tells you that??
[06:26] <digivore> Hawkwind,  are you pretty familiar with e17 ?
[06:26] <Hawkwind> digivore: Slightly.  It's all I run and have run it for over a year now.
[06:26] <larson9999> i doubt it, hawkwind never talks about e17
[06:26] <larson9999> :)
[06:26] <dhq> flaccid_:dhq@dhq-laptop:~$   sh ./JAlbuminstall.bin Preparing to install... Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive..Configuring the installer for this system's environment...No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATHenvironment variable.  You must install a VM prior torunning this program.
[06:26] <Hawkwind> digivore: I do a lot of testing for the devs
[06:27] <intelikey> larson9999 lol
[06:27] <intelikey> hmmm now Hawkwind is a zealott
[06:27] <intelikey> :)
[06:27] <flaccid_> dhq: the java binary path needs to be added to an enviro variable
[06:27] <foo> Do you guys think XGL will be gone in a year or two?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Far from it
[06:27] <Hawkwind> foo: It's already been replaced.  Read the internet
[06:28] <Genix|linux> how do i open up a .exe using wine?
[06:28] <intelikey> Hawkwind it was a referance to eariler chatter
[06:28] <Genix|linux> i already installed it
[06:28] <digivore> Hawkwind, nice, i'll probably have a few questions about it shortly...
[06:28] <dhq> flaccid_: how do i do that
[06:28] <Genix|linux> ah intelikey you are still here
[06:28] <Hawkwind> digivore: #E is the place to ask them since you're there :P
[06:28] <foo> Hawkwind: HAHA. You win.
[06:28] <flaccid_> dhq: which environment varable does the documentation say?
[06:28] <Genix|linux> intelikey: i got wine installed but i don't know how to open up an .exe in it
[06:29] <dhq> flaccid_: that i dunno it just says javavm
[06:29] <intelikey> Genix|linux  wine /path/to/file.exe
[06:29] <Genix|linux> sweet thanks
[06:29] <flaccid_> dhq: we will have to guess
[06:29] <dhq> flaccid_: ok
[06:30] <dhq> flaccid_: so how i start
[06:30] <Dr_willis> KernelTrap is reporting that the security research firm Rapid7 has published a working root exploit for a buffer overflow in NVIDIA's binary blob graphics driver for Linux.
[06:30] <flaccid_> dhq: oh it says PATH environment variable
[06:31] <Dr_willis> http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
[06:31] <dhq> k
[06:31] <intelikey> Dr_willis cool....
[06:31] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  :P interesting at least
[06:31] <Dr_willis> wonder how it does it!
[06:33] <Genix|linux> intelikey: i have to do that in that wine command in chroot i assume?
[06:33] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i can't really tell a difference in speed but i'll take your word on the leaking and stuff and use it instead for a while to see if i have issues.  do you know if the build on oct 15 was on rc3?
[06:33] <dude_> how do i install freenx?
[06:33] <flaccid_> dhq: what version of java is installed and what is the path to the jvm, eg /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:33] <flaccid_> !freenx
[06:34] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:34] <Hawkwind> larson9999: You gotta be kidding me ?  Start time is 1/4 of what firefox is.
[06:34] <intelikey> Genix|linux yeah or prepend the chroot command
[06:34] <dude_> how do i install frostwire, my mistake
[06:34] <flaccid_> !frostwire
[06:34] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd> ew
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd> EW!
[06:34] <intelikey> Genix|linux it's easiest to do a chroot /address/    then use that shell imo
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd> who uses limewire? or that entire network anymore?
[06:34] <Genix|linux> ok thanks i'll try that
[06:34] <t3hwiz0rd> can you even find a song that isn't all jacked up on it?
[06:34] <flaccid_> you mean gnutella, t3hwiz0rd
[06:35] <t3hwiz0rd> yup
[06:35] <flaccid_> i do
[06:35] <t3hwiz0rd> why? theres nothing even good on it anymore
[06:35] <dhq> flaccid_: i am done i just done and chose my location sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:35] <flaccid_> works for me
[06:35] <mattik> How do I copy text to pastebin in text mode?
[06:35] <t3hwiz0rd> maybe im just spoiled by konwing some of the best private torrent networks but meh.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> limewire is one of many gnutella clients..   The entire network R-belong-to-iraa.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> actually  i use frostwire
[06:35] <larson9999> hawkwind i wasn't paying attention to the startup.  just did a little test.  4 count to start ff and 2 count to start swiftfox
[06:36] <flaccid_> dhq: read the documentation next time
[06:36] <Dr_willis> t3hwiz0rd,  whatever...
[06:36] <dhq> flaccid_: run the command yoou can choose where your vm is
[06:36] <Eddy> hi
[06:36] <flaccid_> dhq: yes, but problems exist with that if you have more than 1 jvm installed, this is why i asked you..
[06:36] <intelikey> Genix|linux man chroot if you need the specifics on that.    one could in fact script the process that would do the chroot and the wine commands then assoceate .exe files with the script....    but that's prolly tomarrows task.
[06:37] <dhq> flaccid_: oh ok
[06:37] <flaccid_> t3hwiz0rd: if you wanna get a popular song then its easy
[06:37] <larson9999> i'll have to try ff 2 on my son's machine maybe it + wine + the new flash will get rid of the little lag
[06:37] <dude_> flaccid: frostwire is already installed but i won't run
[06:37] <flaccid_> dude_: ah well
[06:38] <klerfayt> I installed linux-686 but /boot/grub/menu.lst is unchanged?
[06:38] <Zaire> damn thing still isnt working
[06:38] <Genix|linux> intelikey: i'm in the chroot shell but when i do wine Firefox.exe i get a Segmentation fault
[06:38] <intelikey> klerfayt update-gurb
[06:38] <intelikey> Genix|linux yuch....
[06:39] <klerfayt> intelikey: still nothing
[06:39] <dude_> flaccid: what seems to be the problem?
[06:39] <Genix|linux> yeah i have no idea what to do now lol
[06:39] <intelikey> Genix|linux use a copy of notepad.exe to test wine with  make sure it's not just wine failing
[06:40] <intelikey> klerfayt do a ls /boot  and see what kernels are there ?
[06:40] <klerfayt> intelikey: could the reason be that I also installed linux-image-686?
[06:40] <intelikey> the vmlinuz* ones.
[06:40] <flaccid_> dude_: huh, i don't have any problem
[06:40] <Genix|linux> i think it is wine failing
[06:41] <Genix|linux> i just tried to do a winecfg
[06:41] <dude_> flaccid: :) frostwire, it won't run, sorry
[06:41] <klerfayt> intelikey: they are here (two 686 vmlinuz files)
[06:41] <Genix|linux> and it gives me the same error
[06:41] <intelikey> klerfayt    compare against the listings in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:41] <intelikey> Genix|linux yep.
[06:41] <Genix|linux> yeah i'm going to try a diff method to install wine
[06:41] <flaccid_> dude_: there are 100000 possible reasons why it won't run. unless you give me some specific information, i don't know which one it could be.
[06:42] <intelikey> back to the wiki's and see if you skipped anything.
[06:42] <intelikey> Genix|linux ^
[06:42] <klerfayt> intelikey: menu.lst only has vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 + recovery mode
[06:42] <Genix|linux> hmm good idea
[06:42] <dude_> flaccid: when i click the application, nothing happens
[06:42] <Genix|linux> intelikey: it's hard because i am using edgy and most guides are for dapper
[06:43] <flaccid_> dude_: do you have java installed?
[06:43] <dude_> yes
[06:43] <intelikey> klerfayt so copy the full listing for   vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386     and change the 386 to  686 in both the initrd and the vmlinuz
[06:43] <flaccid_> dude_: run it from command line and see what error out you get
[06:44] <dude_> flaccid: what is the command
[06:44] <flaccid_> dude_: frostwire
[06:44] <intelikey> Genix|linux hmmmm yeah.... ok the development channel is #ubuntu+1   maybe someone in there can walk you through it .....   idk.
[06:44] <klerfayt> intelikey: so do it manually? why sudo update-grub doesn't work?
[06:45] <intelikey> klerfayt i don't know why.  but yes you can fix it manually
[06:45] <intelikey> klerfayt must edit as root.   sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:46] <klerfayt> intelikey: I know; I prefer kdesu kwrite
[06:46] <intelikey> flaccid you good with wine on 64bit edgy ?
[06:47] <flaccid> intelikey: no sorry
[06:47] <intelikey> klerfayt i started to say nano  :)
[06:48] <ny0n> i need help
[06:48] <ny0n> anyone around?
[06:48] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: what do you need
[06:48] <ny0n> problem: when i boot into kubuntu, kubuntu automatically connects to someone elses wireless network instead of mine
[06:48] <ny0n> how do i connect to my own network
[06:49] <flaccid> ny0n: system settings > network from kmenu
[06:49] <intelikey> well i'm off in 10 minutes.     so i need to start cleanup around here.   later linux converts.  :)
[06:49] <flaccid> !networkmanager
[06:49] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[06:49] <flaccid> ^^ networkmanager good too
[06:49] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: I prefer to install knetworkmanager
[06:50] <Genix|linux> intelikey: thanks for all the help
[06:51] <Zaire> ok how do I setup vnc for local access on kubuntu
[06:51] <ny0n> is there a command i can type to fix this problem
[06:51] <flaccid> Zaire: display :0 ?
[06:51] <rich0> can anyone give advice for STREAMTUNER?
[06:51] <Celeste> hi
[06:51] <Zaire> ?
[06:51] <flaccid> ny0n: yes there is. but its a lot longer than following instructions for the gui
[06:51] <Celeste> is there any native english speaker who would like to control some english lines for me, PLEASE?
[06:52] <ny0n> flaccid, what commands plz
[06:52] <Zaire> I want to try something in a gui on my linux server and I only have 1 set of periphs to use
[06:52] <flaccid> ny0n: i would need to know more about what you have and what you need
[06:52] <flaccid> !vnc > Zaire
[06:52] <flaccid> !x11vnc > Zaire
[06:53] <ny0n> well, when i boot into kubuntu, it automatiaclly connects to someone elses wireless network. i want to connect to my own network and not use someone elses internet
[06:53] <flaccid> ny0n: like i said.. i don't know what wireless card you have and what type of wireless network you need to connect to. why don't you just use the gui?
[06:53] <rich0> what is the etiquette here?  i've never used irc before,
[06:54] <ny0n> i tried gui
[06:54] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: just ask a question
[06:54] <ny0n> what program do you want me to get
[06:54] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: knetworkmanager
[06:54] <flaccid> !networkmanager > ny0n
[06:54] <rich0> thx, bonbon.
[06:54] <rich0> can anyone help me with streamtuner problems, please?
[06:55] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: what is the problem
[06:55] <rich0> shoutcast streams won't load.
[06:55] <rich0> once in a while they load and play fine, but...
[06:56] <rich0> then they stop loading.
[06:56] <dude> flaccid: tnx
[06:56] <deliverator> hello, i need help interfacing with an ipod
[06:56] <flaccid> np dude
[06:57] <BonBonTheJon> deliverator: amarok can sync with ipod
[06:58] <Zaire> thats not very helpful it just gave me a thing to edit the vnc due to an error and I can't connect to it via real vnc either
[06:58] <flaccid> Zaire: what exactly is your problem, i don't understand what you want to do
[06:59] <Zaire> I want to connect this PC Im on to my server using vnc
[06:59] <Zaire> the server is local
[06:59] <flaccid> so is your vnc server set up on the server?
[06:59] <dude> !wine
[06:59] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:59] <dude> !beryl-xgl
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl-xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: try xmms, it is supposed to be able to play shoutcast
[06:59] <ny0n> knetworkmanager didn't work
[07:00] <Zaire> I got it install and edited the conf like that page said yes
[07:00] <dude> !beryl_xgl
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl_xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <flaccid> Zaire: did you install a vnc client on the client machine?
[07:00] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: what didnt work
[07:00] <ny0n> knetworkmanager
[07:00] <flaccid> !what
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <flaccid> !why
[07:00] <Zaire> Im running XP on this machine and I have real vnc viewer install
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <flaccid> Zaire: ok so whats the problem?
[07:01] <Zaire> it wont connect to the server vnc
[07:01] <ny0n> i need help
[07:01] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: does knetworkmanager start up in the taskbar
[07:01] <flaccid> Zaire: which vnc server are you using?
[07:01] <dude> !vnc
[07:01] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[07:02] <Zaire> I used sudo apt-get install vnc-common tightvncserver
[07:02] <flaccid> Zaire: is it running on the server? sudo fuser -v 5900/tcp
[07:02] <dude> flaccid: aside from vmware, what other programs that i can use to run xp under ubuntu
[07:02] <Brydenn33> hey i have a question for you guys
[07:03] <rawrness> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27066/ me pissing people off in #suse
[07:03] <Brydenn33> shit, hold on
[07:03] <flaccid> dude: qemu i belive and there are others, which i remember
[07:03] <flaccid> i can't remember them
[07:03] <rich0> bonbon:  i have streamtuner set up to use xmms.
[07:03] <rich0> is there something i should do in xmms?
[07:04] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: i've never used streamruner
[07:05] <rich0> ok.  thanks.
[07:05] <BonBonTheJon> rich0: maybe try amarok
[07:05] <BonBonTheJon> Brydenn33: what is your question
[07:05] <Brydenn33> hold on
[07:05] <Brydenn33> ok got it
[07:06] <Brydenn33> do any of you have ntfs-3g installed?
[07:06] <Brydenn33> cuz i'm running into an issue
[07:06] <mattik> Hello. I have intel integrated graphic card and ati's pci graphig card. My kubuntu don't recognize to X and I cannot paste xorg log in text mode
[07:06] <BonBonTheJon> ny0n: did knetworkmanager load
[07:06] <Brydenn33> ntfs-3g allows write access to ntfs partitions
[07:06] <Brydenn33> and i have a dual boot in GRUB between windowsxp and linux (duh)
[07:07] <Brydenn33> however, my "links" on my linux desktop to folders on the windows partition are all messed up now
[07:08] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: do you have the integrated card disabled
[07:08] <Brydenn33> says only "root can mount /dev/hdb1/ on mnt/windows
[07:08] <Zaire> screw it nvm i'll swap my damn periphs then
[07:08] <flaccid> Brydenn33: only root can use the mount command by default
[07:08] <mattik> BonBonTheJon: My XP detect ati
[07:08] <flaccid> Zaire: you give up?
[07:09] <Brydenn33> flaccid:  i think i know what my problem is
[07:09] <Brydenn33> just not sure how to fix it
[07:09] <Brydenn33> ./dev/hdb1	/mnt/windows ntfs-3g  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[07:09] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: pastebin the output of 'lspci'
[07:09] <Brydenn33> is what i have in FSTAB
[07:09] <Brydenn33> i USED to have /dev/hdb1	/mnt/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[07:10] <Brydenn33> i think thats why my links arent working
[07:10] <mattik> BonBonTheJon: How can I do it in text mode?
[07:10] <flaccid> Brydenn33: there should be no . at the start of it
[07:10] <dude> flaccid: what is this error? 'wine: cannot find '/home/dude/xp/Program_Files/Qlock/qlock.exe'"
[07:10] <Brydenn33> flaccid: duh, i did that for IRC
[07:11] <BonBonTheJon> mattik: is there an entry for the ati card in lspci
[07:11] <flaccid> dude: i don't know
[07:11] <mattik> yes