[10:27] <abduliounited> illiriginal: unitl yesterday I was able to login but today Im not. the field where i type the password is too short.
[10:27] <hwilde> TheCougar, yeah that is beryl or compiz or something like this
[10:27] <mwe> ho_Oh: so is it a windows partition?
[10:27] <ericTG> inside the nVidia X Server Settings dialog box
[10:27] <TheCougar> next:) how do i get pidgin installed? I don't see it replacing gaim in the package thing for an update
[10:27] <hwilde> !effects | TheCougar
[10:27] <ubotu> TheCougar: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[10:27] <ho_Oh> mwe: not it's XFS
[10:27] <Luke> thans guys I'll check the link
[10:27] <mwe> ho_Oh: I see
[10:27] <illriginal> abduliounited, i'd recommend you reinstall GAIM... that would be my only option in all honestly.
[10:28] <ho_Oh> mwe: I just want my multimedia on a different partition
[10:28] <abduliounited> ok
[10:28] <drbair_work> any pointers on getting the console to put the monitor to sleep instead of just blanking it?
[10:28] <abduliounited> thanks
[10:35] <mwe> ho_Oh: odd fs choise if you ask me. however, sudo mkdir /mnt/multimedia and add an entry to /etc/fstab
[10:35] <cornel> please help me
[10:35] <cornel> i cany install nothing
[10:35] <jrib> drbair_work: execuing /etc/acpi/screenblank.sh  does it for me
[10:35] <cornel> with synaptic
[10:35] <cornel> or adept
[10:35] <jrib> cornel: tell us what hapenns when you try (in one line please)
[10:35] <ho_Oh> mwe: FINALLY!!! aleluyah! eureka!
[10:35] <ho_Oh> mwe: :-) thanks
[10:35] <mwe> ho_Oh: lol
[10:35] <illriginal> are you typin sudo cornel?
[10:35] <cornel> no
[10:35] <ericTG> Anyone know why I can't save my resolution to xconf? - a permission issue
[10:35] <hwilde> !fixres | ericTG
[10:35] <ubotu> ericTG: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:35] <illriginal> are you typing your password correctly when you use synaptic?
[10:35] <ho_Oh> mwe: will it be USR friendly or root? I want full user permissions
[10:35] <cornel> im installing with synaptiv
[10:35] <jrib> ericTG: what program are you using to edit it?
[10:35] <mwe> ho_Oh: call it whatever you like. multimedia is just a suggestion
[10:35] <cornel> or adept
[10:35] <aroo> cornel: be descriptive man, no one knows what you're rambling on about
[10:36] <mwe> ho_Oh: it depends on the entry in fsta
[10:36] <cornel> ok now listen
[10:36] <mwe> ho_Oh: fstab, even
[10:36] <abduliounited> illiriginal: do u know where I can find the instruction how to uninstall and reinstall Gaim??
[10:36] <jrib> cornel: stop using enter to break up your thoughts, keep it on one line
[10:36] <mwe> ho_Oh: you can make it writeable by anyone
[10:36] <cornel> it use to work
[10:36] <ho_Oh> mwe: I hate permi8ssions
[10:36] <cornel> but now
[10:36] <aroo> cornel: what used to work? what is the error? what are you trying to install? what have you tried to do?
[10:36] <aroo> cornel: these are things you should ask yourself before asking a question
[10:36] <cornel> if i try to install something
[10:36] <mwe> ho_Oh: yeah, can be annoying. good for security, though.
[10:36] <cornel> installing man
[10:36] <ericTG> I'll try the link... thanks.
[10:36] <cornel> with synaptic
[10:36] <cornel> now it doesnt
[10:36] <cornel> nothing
[10:36] <aroo> cornel: and what do you want me to do with what you've told me? wave a wand and have it work?
[10:36] <Oggu> Are there any good programs to compose music (especially piano)?
[10:36] <jamiejcumb> mwe:who can I make the application kill the session. This is what I need. Can use system>Prefs>Sessions
[10:36] <illriginal> lol
[10:36] <illriginal> abduliounited... go to your synaptic.
[10:36] <cornel> i cant uninstall neither
[10:36] <mwe> jamiejcumb: I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to do, exactly
[10:36] <cornel> nothing
[10:36] <aroo> cornel: that's wonderful, you still haven't told me what your error is
[10:36] <illriginal> uninstall gaim, and reinstall gaim.
[10:36] <cornel> wait 1 sec
[10:36] <illriginal> cornel... stop scrollin.
[10:36] <jrib> cornel: instead of pressing your enter key, press '.' until you finish your thought
[10:36] <illriginal> brb
[10:36] <cornel> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[10:36] <cornel> this is the eror
[10:36] <cornel> man
[10:36] <aroo> cornel: what packages are you trying to install
[10:36] <kdiggdy> can someone help me with installing ati driver
[10:36] <asherZ> hi, anyone know how to remove the dotted border around taskbar in gnome w/ beryl? it happens when u use mouse click on "apps places system" or click on a icon of running program. help please =]
[10:36] <cornel> now i have tried to uninstall something
[10:36] <cornel> it doesnt works
[10:36] <aroo> I give up
[10:36] <ho_Oh> mwe: defaults permissions are ok?
[10:36] <cornel> what is to be done man
[10:36] <cornel> pls help me
[10:36] <jrib> cornel: you need to read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html and then come back
[10:36] <nickrud> cornel, post the complete error on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:36] <cornel> i hate windows
[10:36] <mwe> ho_Oh: not if you want everyone to write
[10:36] <kdiggdy> could anyone that knows how to install an ATI driver please please me me -A noob in need of help
[10:36] <Warbo> Hi, I've just installed Feisty on my old desktop (it used to run Dapper a while ago), and whilst the wireless is now working, there is no 3D support. It is an ATI Radeon 9200, which I used to use the Free ati driver with, but now everything 3D/GLX just comes up  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Any help?
[10:36] <nickrud> altho reading that wouldn't hurt
[10:36] <crdlb> kdiggdy, what ati card?
[10:36] <ho_Oh> mwe: I think is only one user
[10:36] <kdiggdy> x700 pro
[10:36] <NeXtDaY> !ati | kdiggdy
[10:36] <ubotu> kdiggdy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:36] <mwe> ho_Oh: only root will have permission to write by default
[10:36] <kdiggdy> I went to the website
[10:36] <crdlb> Warbo, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:36] <v> how do i delete a file in terminal?
[10:36] <ho_Oh> mwe: that's what I am talking about
[10:36] <kdiggdy> but i'm still a bit  confused
[10:36] <mwe> v: rm
[10:36] <ho_Oh> that sux
[10:36] <cornel> what do u think it is all  about
[10:36] <cornel> ?
[10:36] <ho_Oh> how do I put user permissions?
[10:36] <mwe> ho_Oh: for everyone?
[10:36] <ho_Oh> yeah I guess
[10:36] <crdlb> kdiggdy, system>administration>restricted drivers manager
[10:36] <nickrud> cornel, jrib posted something you should read, to make it easier for us to understand your problem; I also asked for some specific info.
[10:36] <jamiejcumb> mwe: Running a cybercafe when the timer runs out or the log out button is hit the application dies. I when this to keep the session open so when the timer dies the session dies. Then set auto login to login again then the application restarts and presents a login screen.
[10:36] <aroo> nickrud: i tried for a bit but he just kept ignoring what i asked too
[10:36] <mwe> ho_Oh: umask=000 under options I think
[10:37] <nickrud> aroo, usually they either come around or leave ;)
[10:37] <kdiggdy> Credlb! I got a msg saying my hardware does not need any restricted drivers
[10:37] <v> and whats copy in terminal lol?
[10:37] <aroo> v, cp
[10:37] <jrib> !cli > v (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:37] <v> ty
[10:37] <Warbo> Xorg.conf -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26485/ (the nv bit is in there because I've also tried using an Nvidia card with the proprietary legacy driver, but to no avail)
[10:38] <mwe> jamiejcumb: I'm not sure how to achieve that easily. I'd have to work something out. I don't have a solution ready
[10:38] <ivan__> hola
[10:38] <zzuh> could someone point me towards the right direction to properly configure wpa_supplicant?
[10:38] <ivan__> que es esot?
[10:38] <zzuh> !wpa_supplicant
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <ivan__> whats this?
[10:39] <aroo> ivan, eres espanol?
[10:39] <ivan__> si
[10:39] <ivan__> mexicano
[10:39] <ivan__> aroo que es esto?
[10:39] <ho_Oh> mwe: what you are not sure?
[10:39] <aroo> !es | ivan__
[10:39] <ubotu> ivan__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:39] <mwe> ho_Oh: yes
[10:39] <timposey> I am trying to find out how to setup grisbi which prints using LaTex does anyone know anything about this?
[10:39] <ho_Oh> mwe: how can I be sure?
[10:39] <mwe> ho_Oh: try it ;)
[10:39] <mwe> ho_Oh: it will work
[10:39] <ivan__> aroo cual es el proposito de esto?
[10:40] <jamiejcumb> mwe: I know that in the file /etc/X11/x.sessiond/9x11-common the line exec $STARTUP is holding the session open
[10:40] <ho_Oh> thanks
[10:40] <rapter> exists a GTK2 theme editor
[10:40] <ho_Oh> !flash
[10:40] <aroo> ivan__: ayudar personas
[10:40] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:40] <Warbo> rapter: At the moment it needs to be done with a text editor :(
[10:40] <ivan__> ohhh ok bien porque eh tenido muchos problemas
[10:41] <aroo> ivan__: vamos #ubuntu-es
[10:41] <mwe> ivan__: english only in here, please
[10:41] <ivan__> como?
[10:41] <crdlb> Warbo, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:41] <ivan__> how do i change
[10:41] <illriginal> mwe... all you had to do was tell him to join the hispanic version of this channel
[10:41] <illriginal> ivan
[10:41] <aroo> ivan__: /join #ubuntu-es
[10:41] <nj786> hey does anybody know how to make these icons animate as in "move" http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4vmzhtu
[10:41] <illriginal> #ubuntu-es right click > join
[10:41] <courageousrobo1> I have a quick question - is there a way, in the shell, to see what computers are on your network?
[10:42] <jamiejcumb> mwe: In feisty they have changed the way sessions work if you added & (appliaction ) this app would hold the session open. But now it trys to open a new session. Cant find why.
[10:42] <sam__> bonsoir
[10:42] <kdiggdy> so can anyone help me install an ati driver please pm me!!!!!@
[10:42] <sam__> do you speek english?
[10:42] <courageousrobo1> kdiggdy - check the wiki - extensive coverage
[10:42] <sam__> do you speek french
[10:43] <sam__> Do you speak french?
[10:43] <mwe> illriginal: he was told several times
[10:43] <ivan__> ok ya adiso
[10:43] <courageousrobo1>  is there a way, in the shell, to see what computers are on your network?
[10:43] <Warbo> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26489/ (Thanks BTW)
[10:43] <illriginal> ah well... should be patient with non-english speakers. But I see he can atleast type in english. :P
[10:43] <kdiggdy> I checked the wiki and it dident work
[10:44] <courageousrobo1> /kdiggdy What graphics card?
[10:44] <sam__> ok, i speak very bad english but i can test  :-)
[10:44] <crdlb> Warbo, sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:44] <sam__> i am a very problem with my pc
[10:44] <crdlb> Warbo, and: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati
[10:45] <edison_> hi
[10:45] <kdiggdy> the ati x700
[10:45] <Warbo> crdlb: And then restart GDM?
[10:45] <kdiggdy> i used the wiki and changed the .xorg file and it killed my gnome
[10:45] <mwe> jamiejcumb: I must admit I'd have to analyze the files myself to be able to argue
[10:45] <javabyte> opps i've killed my audio - i think it was installing the additional awe32 utils that did it - any ideas? it was working before how do i restore the defaults?
[10:45] <crdlb> Warbo, yes fully restart X
[10:45] <kdiggdy> so i had to reset it
[10:45] <edison_> ive just installed nfsu2 correctly (i got both iso's) and now i wanna play it and it seems like he cant find the cd's so where do i have to mount the cd?
[10:45] <sam__> i have got windows xp (problem)  so i have to install ubuntu, it'is very goog but i have always problem
[10:46] <hwilde> is there a way to log the initial boot messages, before the rc messages in /var/log/boot ?
[10:46] <edison_> it says: please insert the correct cd
[10:46] <edison_> etc.
[10:46] <aroo> sam__: francais o espanol?
[10:46] <hwilde> !audio | javabyte
[10:46] <ubotu> javabyte: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:46] <sam__> franais
[10:46] <courageousrobo1> What is the easiest way to see what other computers are on your network from within the terminal?
[10:46] <aroo> !french | sam__
[10:46] <ubotu> sam__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:46] <ceil420> !ati
[10:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <sam__> merci beaucoup j'y vais de suite  ;-) bonne soire
[10:47] <courageousrobo1> or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[10:47] <choogster_> what is the gnome control center called? and how do I run it?
[10:47] <mwe> hwilde: dmesg is the closest you get. compile your kernel with debugging options if you need more info I think
[10:47] <cornel> peope help me please
[10:47] <matheus> hello
[10:47] <ceil420> !botsnack
[10:47] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:47] <cornel> how can i make it more clear????
[10:47] <capi81> Hi, sorry for crashing in, I have a strange problem: g++ is unable to compile the simplest helloworld.c, as it cannot find anything from the standard lib. Anybody got an idea?
[10:47] <ivan__> #ubuntu-es
[10:47] <edison_> can someone help me?!
[10:47] <ceil420> cornel, you could draw a picture
[10:47] <ceil420> :o
[10:47] <cornel> i cant unistall and install packeges
[10:47] <aroo> cornel: just stop
[10:47] <cornel> yes
[10:47] <mwe> hwilde: /var/log/dmesg should keep it
[10:47] <cornel> im desperat
[10:47] <cornel> belive me
[10:47] <ceil420> cornel, you try using sudo?
[10:48] <jshriver> Greetings, Im having problems with pthreads and compiling, keep getting a conflicting type error
[10:48] <ceil420> sudo apt-get install <package>
[10:48] <jrib> cornel: answer these questions on a single line:  what are you trying to do?  how do you try to do it?  what exactly happens when you try to do it (including all errors)?  Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to show us long errors, do not paste in this channel
[10:48] <cornel> it doesn work neither
[10:48] <hwilde> !sudo | cornel
[10:48] <ubotu> cornel: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:48] <ceil420> then i dno :x
[10:48] <matheus> anybody knows about "s" permission, how to I set a file to execute with another user?
[10:48] <edison_> ive just installed nfsu2 correctly (i got both iso's) and now i wanna play it and it seems like he cant find the cd's so where do i have to mount the cd?
[10:48] <edison_> it says: please insert the correct cd
[10:48] <cornel> it aint working with sudo neither
[10:48] <cornel> belive me
[10:48] <hwilde> matheus, chmod a+x <filename>
[10:48] <ivan__> aroo
[10:48] <bronze-> Can anyone reccomend me a decent linux client for MSN/WLM? NOT GAIM, 'cus it doesn't support the new "personal message thingy". HAS TO look decent.
[10:48] <cornel> nor synaptic or adept
[10:48] <hwilde> cornel, use synaptic then
[10:48] <aroo> ivan__: yes?
[10:49] <cornel> nothing
[10:49] <Bassetts> is there a way to find out what I have installed that deviates from a typical ubuntu install?
[10:49] <cornel> it aint workin
[10:49] <mezziah> bronze-, i'd recommend amsn for msn
[10:49] <mwe> cornel: I don't know if jrib will ommit the ban next time ;)
[10:49] <jshriver> matheus: chmod +x filename  chown owner:owner filename
[10:49] <jrib> cornel: I'm starting to think you are a troll
[10:49] <ivan__> no one answers in ubuntu-es
[10:49] <aroo> just ignore cornel, he's been doing this for 15 minutes now
[10:49] <gnychis> is there a package to install HP printers?  under CUPS i only seem to have support for 3 printers or so
[10:49] <Warbo> bronze-: amsn, emesene, Kopete
[10:49] <mwe> matheus: be careful with that
[10:49] <matheus> hwilde, I want to exec a file with another user, with "s" attribute
[10:49] <cornel> man i aint jokin
[10:49] <jrib> cornel: then answer my questions
[10:49] <cornel> ok
[10:49] <aroo> ivan__: lo siento :(
[10:49] <jshriver> matheus: chmod +x filename chown user:user filename
[10:49] <bronze-> Warbo, which looks most decent?
[10:49] <hwilde> matheus, chown user:user <filename>    then chmod a+x <filename>
[10:49] <pihus_> anyone uses EasyTAG?
[10:49] <edison_> no one able to help me?
[10:49] <mwe> matheus: it's a huge potential security hole
[10:49] <crdlb> Warbo, so?
[10:49] <edison_> i installed with wine
[10:50] <hwilde> !wine | edison_
[10:50] <jshriver> edison_: what is your problem
[10:50] <ubotu> edison_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:50] <matheus> mwe, I know...
[10:50] <mezziah> aroo, a veces la gente estn durmiendo :D
[10:50] <ivan__> aroo: well i can stay here as long as i talk in english right?
[10:50] <matheus> mwe, Im junt making test...
[10:50] <mwe> matheus: sudo chmod +s file
[10:50] <edison_> hwilde: read?
[10:50] <hwilde> !ask | ivan__
[10:50] <aroo> ivan__: yes
[10:50] <ubotu> ivan__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:50] <jshriver> to much noice in here
[10:50] <edison_> hwilde, i know what wine is
[10:50] <Warbo> bronze-: The first two are designed to look like the official MSN client (amsn looking the worst out of the 2), Kopete has KDE niceness, so I say KDE looks nicest
[10:50] <cornel> good people i love linux and dont wanna go back to win
[10:50] <aroo> jshriver: well there is 1200 people
[10:50] <matheus> mwe, I made a bash script width command whoami
[10:50] <cornel> pls help me
[10:50] <ivan__> aroo: ok thanks
[10:50] <mwe> matheus: yes
[10:51] <hwilde> cornel, ask your question or be quiet.
[10:51] <bronze-> Warbo, Ok, but I'm using ubuntu = gnome :P
[10:51] <Warbo> I have 3D rendering now BTW. Thanks :)
[10:51] <matheus> mwe, and set a+s attribute, with uid root
[10:51] <edison_> k then not
[10:51] <klhrevolutionist> got blackbox set as default session/wm. How do I start gnome-panel upon getting into X ?
[10:51] <mwe> matheus: yes
[10:51] <Warbo> bronze-: So am I. Kopete will still work
[10:51] <cornel> i have asked one thousand times
[10:51] <mwe> matheus: change the owner of the file
[10:51] <hwilde> klhrevolutionist, gnome and blackbox are competing window managers...
[10:51] <cornel> why cant i install or unistall nothing
[10:51] <cornel> ?
[10:51] <Warbo> bronze-:To change themes you will need to install kcontrol as well though
[10:51] <hwilde> cornel, use synaptic.
[10:51] <matheus> mwe, but when I run the file, with matheus user, it printing "matheus"
[10:51] <cornel> it is not workin
[10:51] <bronze-> Warbo, that's for kopete, yeh?
[10:51] <mwe> matheus: but you own the file, no?
[10:51] <jrib> cornel: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[10:52] <hwilde> cornel, did you try CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE ?
[10:52] <mezziah> how do i turn off those smileys in xchat? they're driving me nuts
[10:52] <matheus> mwe, root is owner
[10:52] <theunixgeek> Where can I get the original ubuntu (4.10, I think)?
[10:52] <Daviey> theunixgeek: why would you want to?
[10:52] <hwilde> theunixgeek, try #ubuntu-sadomasochist
[10:52] <ceil420> isn't Dapper the most stable?
[10:52] <theunixgeek> Daviey: fun
[10:52] <ceil420> lol hwilde
[10:52] <Warbo> bronze-: Yes. Kopete is a KDE program, so a small part of KDE will get installed along with it. To change KDE settings (including Kopete) you will need kcontro
[10:52] <mwe> matheus: I think it's normal
[10:52] <klhrevolutionist> hwilde: I'm using gnome-panel with blackbox now, but I have to start via the xterm...
[10:53] <theunixgeek> hwilde, whats that?
[10:53] <Daviey> theunixgeek: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/warty/
[10:53] <theunixgeek> thanks
[10:53] <capi81> can anybody tell me how to fix "/usr/include/stdlib.h:438:49: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory"?
[10:53] <matheus> mwe, how to I run this script as root?
[10:53] <hwilde> !sudo | matheus
[10:53] <ubotu> matheus: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:53] <hwilde> !root | matheus
[10:53] <ubotu> matheus: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:53] <mwe> matheus: I think the commands in there will have root permissions
[10:53] <ivan__> can i use maya 3d modeling program with beryl installed in the same session?
[10:54] <Daviey> ivan__: suck it and see?
[10:54] <edison_> ive just installed nfsu2 correctly (i got both iso's) and now i wanna play it and it seems like he cant find the cd's so where do i have to mount the cd?
[10:54] <mezziah> ivan__:  yes, should work, but expect it to be a bit more slowish
[10:54] <edison_> it says: please insert the correct cd
[10:54] <Bassetts> is there a way to find out what I have installed that deviates from a typical ubuntu install?
[10:54] <bronze-> Warbo, thanks a bunch. And you too mezziah.
[10:54] <hwilde> Bassetts, no, but you could look at dpkg
[10:54] <mwe> matheus: nah
[10:54] <matheus> mwe, Im too, but I try to a simple "ls", where only root have permission, and I get "access deniel"
[10:54] <mwe> matheus: well yes
[10:54] <hwilde> matheus, sudo ls
[10:54] <mwe> matheus: I think it only works for binaries
[10:54] <edison_> moo
[10:55] <Bassetts> hwilde, what command would help me?
[10:55] <edison_> !cow | edison_
[10:55] <hwilde> Bassetts, man dpkg
[10:55] <ivan__> mezziah: im asking because a friend that uses it says that it uses a file that beryl also uses and that they are not compatible
[10:55] <Daviey> matheus: maybe enter a sudo interactive session with "sudo -s"
[10:55] <mwe> matheus: you'd need sudo blah blah blah in there, I think
[10:55] <alienseer23> I have a dell inspiron 2800, installed and running fine, trying to get a linksys wpc11 to work, it lights up and shows up in network places, but not in lspci output, how do I get this to go?
[10:55] <alienseer23> oops, dell 3800
[10:55] <edison_> isnt anyone able to help me playing nfsu 2 ?
[10:55] <mezziah> ivan__:  i don't know anything about compatibility, but theoretically it should work, because beryl is just an enhancement
[10:55] <hwilde> alienseer23, does it appear in   "ifconfig -a"
[10:56] <matheus> mwe, I need to make a script, to call from a webapp to make thinks like change user password...
[10:56] <ivan__> mezziah: ok thanks
[10:56] <xtreon> I need to burn some mp3 files to an audio cd whit k3b.. what codec do I need?
[10:56] <Warbo> bronze-: Sorry, I just crashed my graphics and missed you message :P
[10:56] <hypn0> edison_: what's nfsu 2?
[10:56] <bronze-> I said:
[10:56] <matheus> mwe, sudo can run only from tty, I think
[10:56] <bronze-> Warbo, thanks a bunch. And you too mezziah.
[10:57] <edison_> need for speed underground 2
[10:57] <edison_> for all who didnt know sry
[10:57] <mezziah> bronze-:  ur welcome
[10:57] <Warbo> bronze-: No problem
[10:57] <BigToe7000> guys, isn't Firefox called something else in Ubuntu? at least in older versions? I'm sure it was, just I forgot what it was called... can anyone help?
[10:57] <hypn0> edison_: don't you need wine to try to install that, you should join wine channel edison_
[10:58] <hwilde> BigToe7000, mozilla ?
[10:58] <kitche> BigToe7000: it's called firefox
[10:58] <Warbo> anyone know how I can get the output from a previous terminal session? I ran a game which crashed but couldn't read the error message (ie. pressing up won't work)
[10:58] <alienseer23> hwilde: yes, as wifi0
[10:58] <kitche> BigToe7000: debian calls it iceweasel
[10:58] <hwilde> alienseer23, ok then what is the prob ?
[10:58] <BigToe7000> hmm ok
[10:58] <edison_> hypn0, i already installed the game but if i try to start it it says i didnt instert the correct disc (but i installed it )
[10:58] <edison_> ?!
[10:58] <BigToe7000> I'm sure it was called something else though in a default install
[10:58] <alienseer23> no connection will last
[10:58] <Warbo> BigToe7000: Firefox is Firefox. The packages used to be called mozilla-firefox
[10:58] <hwilde> edison_, you did not install it correctly.
[10:58] <BigToe7000> maybe of 5.10 or something
[10:58] <BigToe7000> :S
[10:58] <alienseer23> it will nopt actually connect
[10:59] <hwilde> alienseer23, what are you trying to connect to
[10:59] <edison_> hwilde, i did i can see all files
[10:59] <hwilde> BigToe7000, it was called mozilla.
[10:59] <alienseer23> internet or home network
[10:59] <BigToe7000> no, not mozilla.
[10:59] <BigToe7000> actually
[10:59] <hwilde> alienseer23, look into the commands "ifconfig" and "iwconfig"
[10:59] <BigToe7000> it might have just been "Mozilla Web Browser"
[10:59] <BigToe7000> hmm
[10:59] <edison_> whats the wine channel then
[10:59] <BigToe7000> thanks guys
[10:59] <hwilde> BigToe7000, firefox is actually mozilla-firefox, previously just mozilla
[10:59] <GrueTamer> edison_: i believe its #winehq
[11:00] <hwilde> !wine | edison_
[11:00] <ubotu> edison_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:00] <buu> So.
[11:00] <ivan__> how do i change the them of the taskbars?
[11:00] <ivan__> theme*
[11:00] <hwilde> !theme | ivan__
[11:00] <ubotu> ivan__: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:00] <buu> Anyone happen to know how I deal with selenium hanging when launching firefox on ubuntu?
[11:01] <Netham45> " Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem" -- Openarena's giving me this. any ideas?
[11:01] <ivan__> uboto: thanls
[11:01] <ivan__> ubotu: thanks
[11:01] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:01] <kitche> Netham45: your driver your using can't use OpenGL
[11:01] <Netham45> ah
[11:01] <hwilde> !ati | Netham45
[11:01] <ubotu> Netham45: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:01] <Warbo> If I run a command like "./game > file" will that dump any terminal output to "file" without disrupting the rest of the game program?
[11:01] <Netham45> don't have an ATI card
[11:01] <Netham45> S3 ViRGE. :D
[11:01] <hwilde> !nvidia | Netham45
[11:02] <Warbo> (so I can read error messages after it crashes X)
[11:02] <Netham45> no nvidia
[11:02] <hwilde> Warbo, run "./game >> file &"
[11:02] <Netham45> ok, well Im going to go mess w/ my xorg.conf crap
[11:02] <Warbo> hwilde: cheers
[11:02] <usr_rob> how come i can't play mp3 with xmms? i can play mp3 with rhythmbox thou, i have installed mpeg123 too
[11:02] <hwilde> Warbo,  >> appends to logfile, and & executes in background
[11:02] <hwilde> !mp3 | usr_rob
[11:02] <ubotu> usr_rob: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <usr_rob> hwilde: thx
[11:03] <bronze-> Warbo, I'm a noob. How do I install applications when I have a shell script and a .py?
[11:03] <hwilde> !apt | bronze-
[11:03] <ubotu> bronze-: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:04] <bronze-> hwilde - isn't apt just for installing apps from repository? I downloaded a .zip...
[11:04] <ho_Oh> hi
[11:04] <ho_Oh> mp3 won't burn with k3b
[11:04] <hwilde> bronze-, unzip .zip
[11:04] <sx66> how do you uninstall beryl completely? as in the settings, I went to add remove settings, then reinstalled it and it keep the same settings, I need to restore the default settings.
[11:04] <The_Viper> I have some trouble using a wireless usb dongle (3com 3crusb20075). I successfully installed it using ndiswrapper, but it seems like everytime i start ubuntu it doesnt load. I then have to pull it out of the usbport, then insert it again. Something witch freezes linux. after a cold reboot it then detects it
[11:04] <hwilde> !burn | ho_Oh
[11:04] <ubotu> ho_Oh: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:05] <The_Viper> sorry for the long explanation
[11:05] <hwilde> The_Viper, you would have to add the module to /etc/modules so it loads on boot
[11:05] <SoopaStar> this is a really dumb question, but I'm new to sudo.  I have a binary installer on my desktop that needs to be run as 'root'.  how can i execute it as such?
[11:05] <hwilde> !sudo | SoopaStar
[11:05] <ubotu> SoopaStar: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:05] <Saviq> noone here, too? how to get prism2_cs built on ubuntu?
[11:05] <Saviq> !prism2_cs
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prism2_cs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <timposey> does anyone know how to setup Grisbi to print through LaTex on Ubuntu?
[11:05] <hwilde> Saviq, that is funny :)
[11:05] <ho_Oh> no! I want
[11:05] <bronze-> hwilde, Yes, I have done that.   How do i do that from terminal?
[11:06] <hwilde> bronze-, right click and add it
[11:06] <ho_Oh> K3b says formta not recognize
[11:06] <Saviq> hwilde: not really funny for me :| I can't get my wifi to work
[11:06] <hwilde> The_Viper, I dont know really but you would have to figure out what module supports the usb dongle, then add it to /etc/modules
[11:06] <dyrne> ho_Oh: using k3b you need the mp3 plugin do a apt-cache search k3b mp3   should tell you the package i think
[11:06] <bronze-> hwilde, right click on what?
[11:06] <hwilde> Saviq, mine doesn't even boot.  but if it would, the wifi would work (gotta love atheros)
[11:06] <hwilde> bronze-, on the application menu!
[11:07] <The_Viper> hwilde: thanks
[11:07] <nj786> hey i am having trouble with setting ym time, everytime i set my correect time it defuats to another time when i reboot
[11:07] <hwilde> !ntp | nj786
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <hwilde> nj786, lookup ntp and ntpdate
[11:07] <bronze-> hwilde, is there a specific folder where I should put the application? To make it more tidy?
[11:07] <nj786> hwilde, what do you mean?
[11:08] <iMacThere4iAm> where can i get help installing cnc generals on wine?
[11:08] <hwilde> bronze-, wherever you like
[11:08] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[11:08] <hyapadi> @find maria ave maria
[11:09] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: i'm getting errors not mentioned there
[11:09] <bronze-> hwilde, What should I add there, the .py or the shell script?
[11:09] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: Generals or Zero Hour?
[11:10] <hyapadi> @find ave maria
[11:10] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: both, eventually
[11:10] <Marten71> is there a program for linux like winmx
[11:11] <hyapadi> @find frank sinatra love
[11:11] <Pie> Is the splash screen the screen that shows ubuntu loading when starting up?
[11:11] <hyapadi> @find jim brickman love
[11:11] <nj786> hwide?
[11:11] <PriceChild> !botabuse > hyapadi
[11:11] <hyapadi> oops... I chat on the wrong channel
[11:11] <SoopaStar> what is the equiv og gksudo in kubuntu?
[11:11] <ho_Oh> still have that problem k3b tells me mp3 format not recognize
[11:12] <bur[n] er> kdesu
[11:12] <SoopaStar> og=of
[11:12] <hyapadi> !bot
[11:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:12] <SoopaStar> thanks
[11:12] <bur[n] er> !restricted > ho_Oh (read this?)
[11:12] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: what version of wine?
[11:12] <alienseer23> my ONE wireless network card is showing up as 2 devices under the hardware manager, and in the network settings gui, it is not, however showing up when I lspci. I can configure this device, but it wil not actually work, it is a linksys wmp11, how do i get this to work? how do I tell what chipset it is using?
[11:13] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: 0.9.39
[11:14] <v> anyone ran guildwars on linux here?
[11:14] <ho_Oh> no
[11:14] <ho_Oh> no, ubotu is not helping
[11:16] <trpr> v: i did it w/ cedega about a year ago. installation was painless but it was very choppy.
[11:16] <bur[n] er> !info libk3b2-mp3
[11:16] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[11:16] <bur[n] er> get that ho_Oh
[11:17] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: I don't remember if I ever got it to run on wine, I think only cedega... what errors are you getting?
[11:17] <v> oki trpr, what are your computer specs?
[11:18] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: some installshield errors...
[11:18] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: is cedega worth getting? how much does it cost?
[11:18] <bur[n] er> iMacThere4iAm: you have the latest wine?  from winehq.com?  try that first
[11:19] <nelsonuwp> mediaplayerconnectivity question? does it always have to breakout to play or can I play it in the window?
[11:19] <bur[n] er> nelsonuwp: always breaks out for me
[11:20] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: IMHO, depending on what games you play, cedega can be worth getting.  It's $5 a month, but it makes things pretty simple (nice interface, built in "profiles" for the best settings a per game basis, etc.)
[11:20] <nelsonuwp> bur[n] er: wonder if there is a way to fix that becasue it's kind of annoying
[11:20] <prosp1> I'm looking for a way to run a tradewars server on Ubuntu. Anyone ever heard of this being done?
[11:20] <ho_Oh> k3b keeps complaining and I DO have the format I see in k3b preferences
[11:21] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: with wine though, are you running into trouble with the installation or just running the game?
[11:21] <bur[n] er> nelsonuwp: i'd contact the extension dev :)
[11:21] <nelsonuwp> bur[n] er: good dcall
[11:21] <dyrne> ho_Oh: you can always use audacity to convert to wav it is a very simple gui app. but k3b has never had a problem once plugin installed for me
[11:21] <prosp1> Does anyone have the number for Ubuntu customer support. I want my money back!
[11:22] <mikeypizano> hey
[11:22] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: installation of the game
[11:22] <applebenny> test
[11:22] <mikeypizano> can u use dreamweaver cs3 with wine? i tried but got error saying xp sp2 needed
[11:23] <iMacThere4iAm> bur[n] er: it is the latest
[11:23] <Scunizi> prosp1, http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=57950&group_id=30183
[11:24] <ho_Oh> dyrne: is giving me a lot of problems, I am about to erase Ubuntu and go back to XP
[11:24] <javabyte> dammit - snd-ca0106 is the driver for the card but it's got a different DAC than the driver set expects ??? so why could i get sound before???
[11:24] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: It says on winhq that installation from the CD can potentially have problems.  What you might want to try is making ISO images from the CDS, mount the images and install from those rather than the actual physical CD
[11:25] <bur[n] er> iMacThere4iAm: what game?  i missed that
[11:25] <Pie> What's the difference between GTK2x and 1x?
[11:26] <Scunizi> Pie, 1x
[11:26] <kitche> Pie: 2 is the newest
[11:26] <Scunizi> Pie, :)
[11:26] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: Yes, I have tried that too
[11:26] <iMacThere4iAm> bur[n] er: C&C Generals
[11:26] <vontux> can anyone point me in a direction that would help me in researching file transfer via ieee 1284 on ubuntu?
[11:26] <bambam_> hey can anyone help me, i have a .bin file and i need to install it onto my computer
[11:26] <Pie> So, if I have Feisty Fawn I don't have to worry about 1x?
[11:26] <magton> i deleted my smb.conf file.  How can a get a new "as installed" version?  I am running ubuntu server with no gui btw.
[11:26] <bur[n] er> Pie: depends on the application
[11:27] <prometheus_> hey guys - im having probs setting up samba sharing to xbmc, does anyone have any experience?
[11:27] <bronze-> How the hell do I install emesene??
[11:27] <javabyte> what kernel we one atm - too lazy to loot 2.16 is it?
[11:27] <bur[n] er> Pie: some apps still use gtk1, but most anything cool is gtk2... (audacity is gtk1, but it's still kinda cool)
[11:27] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: what kind of errors are you getting?
[11:27] <javabyte> 2.6.16 i mean?
[11:27] <Pie> Okay, thanks
[11:27] <bur[n] er> javabyte: uname -a
[11:28] <javabyte> cool :)
[11:28] <bur[n] er> Pie: in any event, you really never have to worry about that
[11:28] <javabyte> my problem is in the 2.6.17 update so i'm not gonna worry about it :)
[11:28] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: 1607 Unable to install Installshield scripting runtime
[11:29] <prometheus_> what umask and gid do i need to set when mounting my drives in fstab, so that i can allow guests to access the samba shares?
[11:30] <bur[n] er> javabyte: we're using 2.6.20 at the moment
[11:30] <harisamin> hey guys
[11:31] <harisamin> i need some help installing ubuntu on a G4 powerpc
[11:31] <harisamin> can anyone help me?
[11:31] <prometheus_> burner - do you know anything about sabma shares?
[11:31] <brad016> how do uninstall limewire (installed from a .deb file)
[11:31] <prometheus_> *samba
[11:31] <bur[n] er> brad016: sudo apt-get remove --purge limewire
[11:32] <bur[n] er> prometheus_: of course
[11:32] <bur[n] er> !samba
[11:32] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:32] <brad016> thank you bur{n}er
[11:32] <Scunizi> brad016, go to synaptic, click "Installed" on the left. Find Program,. right mouse click, remove
[11:32] <sx66> Does leaving your computer on all the time create memory leakage, or unableness?
[11:33] <harisamin> hey burner....I just recently acquired a G4 powermac....500 mhz....i put tons of ram in it 1.2g....it had a 10 gig hard drive but i added a 20 gig hard drive to it
[11:33] <prometheus_> bur[n] er: i am totally stuck - swat isn't like it is with redhat - all you can really do is change password. I need to know the umask and gid to mount the drives, allow guests to drive my files
[11:33] <sx66> yeah
[11:33] <harisamin> bur[n] er: i installed the badger PPC on it coz i had the original CD....and it worked fine....then i chronologically updated all the way to edgy
[11:34] <daquino> how do i get the vmware key ?
[11:34] <iphv37> how do i get samples for wired??
[11:34] <bur[n] er> harisamin: and?
[11:34] <bur[n] er> daquino: vmware.com and ask for me
[11:35] <bur[n] er> daquino: ask for one rather
[11:35] <harisamin> bur[n] er: everything was fine unitl i tried to pdate to feisty....and messed up my installation...i found out that feisty is not supported on powerpc anymore...so anyways i had some powerpc dapper....edgy...badger...and even alternate cds ..i tried intaslling them again but in the installation it had erros in installing the base systtem
[11:35] <bur[n] er> pdate?
[11:35] <bur[n] er> oh, update
[11:35] <daquino>  bur[n] er what register?
[11:35] <bur[n] er> daquino: probably
[11:36] <TurtleBoots> hi folks
[11:36] <ashu> anyone having experience with sony ericsson k750 as modem on ubuntu?
[11:36] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: Everything I've come across indicates that error is common with MSI installers, but not .exe's.  I'm stumped :(
[11:36] <harisamin> bur[n] er: it would go to like 6% then a whole bunch of errors would appear....i've tried every ubuntu distro from badger...dapper...and edgy...and the alterante cds...i dont know why i cant get ubuntu to work again...i even siwtched to a 40 gig hard drive...same problem...any ideas?
[11:36] <bur[n] er> daquino: ever try virtualbox?  i like it better than vmware
[11:36] <magton> so will apt-get remove --purge samba  apt-get install samba generate a new smb.conf file?  I thought it would, but it doesn't.
[11:36] <daquino> bur[n] er:  what is it ?
[11:36] <TurtleBoots> having trouble getting sounds out to tv when connected through Ubuntu - any ideas please?
[11:36] <bur[n] er> magton: you answered your own question
[11:37] <Pie> How do I install a splash screen?
[11:37] <TurtleBoots> !sound
[11:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:37] <Pie> for ubuntu
[11:37] <bur[n] er> magton: sudo apt-get remove --purge samba; sudo rm -rf /etc/samba; sudo apt-get install samba    <--this *might* work
[11:37] <Music_Shuffle> !splash
[11:37] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[11:37] <nalioth> !tell bambam_ about multiverse
[11:37] <nalioth> !tell bambam_ about java
[11:37] <Pie> thanks
[11:37] <Music_Shuffle> Anytime :)
[11:37] <daquino> bur[n] er: doesn't seem to be a pkg for it
[11:37] <asdf> Can anyone help me install the widget plugin for beryl?  I just installed screenlets.
[11:37] <nalioth> bambam_: check your private messages for instructions from ubotu
[11:37] <bur[n] er> daquino: for virtualbox?  there is
[11:37] <bambam_> thanks
[11:38] <brad016> how do you uninstall limewire, I tried "sudo apt-get remove --purge limewire
[11:38] <brad016> " and it said the package limewire couldn't be found
[11:38] <nalioth> bambam_: using non ubuntu packages can have unwanted effects on ubuntu
[11:38] <daquino> bur[n] er:  what source ?
[11:38] <v> Yeah, my specs are 4600+ dual core amd, 1gig ram, 300gig hdd total so gw with cadega should run i recon
[11:38] <bur[n] er> daquino: http://virtualbox.org/download/1.4.0/virtualbox_1.4.0-21864_Ubuntu_feisty_i386.deb
[11:38] <brad016> a .deb file
[11:38] <linxuz3r> have you guys noticed that there is something wrong with the ubuntu logo?
[11:38] <dyrne> brad016: run the limewire.sh installer with --uninstall probably
[11:38] <Music_Shuffle> linxuz3r, ?
[11:38] <nalioth> brad016: only packages installed via dpkg / apt-get can be removed that way
[11:38] <vontux> !plip
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <bur[n] er> brad016: apt-cache search limewire to find the exact package name
[11:38] <mezziah_> linxuz3r: there's nothing wrong with it?
[11:38] <bur[n] er> nalioth: he installed via .deb
[11:38] <linxuz3r> Music_Shuffle: the ubuntu boot loader log it is not evenly spaced
[11:39] <ashu> can someone please help me this modem installation
[11:39] <linxuz3r> logo
[11:39] <Music_Shuffle> Ah ok.
[11:39] <harisamin> bur[n] er: are u there...can u help me...?
[11:39] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: oh dear
[11:39] <ho_Oh> my bad, some songs were throughly corrupted
[11:39] <bur[n] er> harisamin: best i can say is download a fresh edgy ppc iso
[11:39] <harisamin> bur[n] er: i did...no luck
[11:39] <nalioth> brad016: use synaptic to search for and remove it
[11:39] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: what about the free version of cedega compiled from CVS?
[11:39] <brad016> okay
[11:40] <bur[n] er> harisamin: the cd get to the part where it says start ubuntu?
[11:40] <harisamin> bur[n] er: is there another linux distro for ppc that uses debian package system?
[11:40] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to port a windows theme onto linux metacity/gtk?
[11:40] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: I didn't even know they still offered it via CVS... worth a shot if you can get your hands on it :)
[11:40] <woodyn87> Any network folks that can tell me if the IPW2100 wireless card is supported directly by ubuntu or does it need the ndis wrapper?
[11:40] <magton> actually, I get an error when apt-get install samba is run.   the install didn't create /etc/samba for me.
[11:40] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: well i'm gonna try it!
[11:40] <aMMuNix> not sure whether this question belongs here or not but here goes, is there any way I can resize an ext3 partition using windows?
[11:40] <bur[n] er> illriginal: it's not an easy task... involves remaking the whole thing in metacity and a lot of gimping
[11:40] <nalioth> aMMuNix: nope
[11:40] <woodyn87> I've seen docs that say it's supported but can't get it going
[11:40] <abrown> iMacThere4iAm: alright, if you run into trouble let me know :)
[11:41] <nalioth> aMMuNix: use an Ubuntu liveCD
[11:41] <mezziah_> aMMuNix: as far as i know PartitionMagic supports ext3
[11:41] <dyrne> aMMuNix: partition magic but its not free
[11:41] <harisamin> bur[n] er: the regular cds i've tried....not the alternate ones...they get to the part in ubuntu where i have the cursor....the lil round thing when it is busy...but i have left that runnign from time and time and nothing happens?
[11:41] <bur[n] er> woodyn87: directly via binary intel drivers
[11:41] <Music_Shuffle> Or a gparted liveCD
[11:41] <asdf> anyone out there running screenlets?
[11:41] <aMMuNix> dyrne, partition magic trial isn't supported
[11:41] <bur[n] er> harisamin: try the alternate :)  it can't hurt
[11:41] <woodyn87> Thanks, I try to search on that, right over my head....
[11:41] <illriginal> bur[n] er hm.... i need to get a book on creating themes in metacity..
[11:42] <aMMuNix> dyrne, I mean, it doesn't support ext3
[11:42] <bur[n] er> aMMuNix: just download an ubuntu livecd and resize it with gparted
[11:42] <harisamin> bur[n] er: i have been trying the alternate cds.....it always chokes on the base system installation....?
[11:42] <aMMuNix> bur[n] er, I tried that, but it seemed to be stuck
[11:42] <bur[n] er> harisamin: got me... you could try straight debian... or yellowdog
[11:42] <Music_Shuffle> harisamin, and they're burned right?
[11:42] <harisamin> bur[n] er: does debian have an gnome X environemnet?
[11:42] <bur[n] er> harisamin: of course
[11:42] <harisamin> Music_Shuffle: yes coz i tried them on other computers...they are fine
[11:43] <bur[n] er> harisamin: and kde/xubuntu/fluxbox/windowmaker/matchbox/etc
[11:43] <bur[n] er> s/xubuntu/xfce
[11:43] <Music_Shuffle> harisamin, can you run other distros?
[11:43] <linxuz3r> where is the ubuntu boot splash located?
[11:43] <Music_Shuffle> !splash
[11:43] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[11:43] <bur[n] er> !gnome-splashscreen-manager | linxuz3r
[11:43] <alecwh> I've installed Skype, and none of my friends can hear me on my microphone. I've set the sound so when I talk, I can hear it through my huge speakers, and it's perfect. But my friends say they can't hear me. Is there a way to fix this?
[11:43] <linxuz3r> not the gnome splash screen but the ubuntu boot splash
[11:44] <harisamin> Music_Shuffle: i'm running OS X right now...my orginial computer a few days ago got fired...and i had bveen running ubuntu for a year now...i really like it and was tring to run it on this mac...i have ubunut badger running on an old powerbook...
[11:44] <bur[n] er> !usplash | linxuz3r
[11:44] <ubotu> linxuz3r: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:44] <minerale> Hi, how can I increase the resolution of the command line ( ie not X server)
[11:44] <minerale> (or change the fonts)
[11:44] <johnp> hello
[11:45] <Music_Shuffle> harisamin, oh, I dunno, I just remember that when I fried a RAM stick in a PC, didn't realize it, and then tried to reinstall Edgy, the same thing happened to me.  /Shrug.
[11:45] <stefg> minerale: http://lxr.linux.no/source/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt
[11:45] <mikl_> hello johnp
[11:45] <bur[n] er> minerale: i know you can do it by addin a vga= to your menu.lst somewhere...  google for it
[11:45] <bryman> hello everyone.
[11:45] <bur[n] er> minerale: as for the font, i don't know
[11:45] <mezziah_> hello bryman, welcome to #ubuntu
[11:45] <johnp> what does it mean to register my nick?
[11:45] <bryman> i have a silly question, probably extremely silly. how do you get to the command line on ubuntu?
[11:45] <bryman> 7.04
[11:45] <bur[n] er> !nickserv | johnp
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <daren> Hi
[11:45] <harisamin> Music_Shuffle: i did put in a different RAM chim later on on this MAC....i just wanted to add some more RAM...you think that might have been teh problem?
[11:46] <daren> What is the md5-sum for this cd: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=desktop-newest&arch=i386&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fde.archive.ubuntu.com%2Fubuntu-releases%2F&debug=%5B%27country_US%27%2C+%27country_UK%27%2C+%27continent_NA%27%5D&download-button=&alternatecd=alternate ?
[11:46] <bur[n] er> johnp: well, /msg nickserv and you'll find out
[11:46] <mikl_> johnp: you can register your nick here on IRC so only you can use it
[11:46] <johnp> !nickserv
[11:46] <Music_Shuffle> bryman, hit alt-f2
[11:46] <greg_g> bryman: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[11:46] <Music_Shuffle> bryman, and then enter in 'xterm' or 'terminal'
[11:46] <Haza> hai
[11:46] <Music_Shuffle> yeah, or that :P
[11:46] <mikl_> johnp: that means that we can be sure that you is you - tends to be a good thing :)
[11:46] <Music_Shuffle> harisamin, how much RAM is in there?
[11:46] <bryman> ty everybody =]
[11:46] <daquin1> ok how do i use this virtual box and can it load up my xp on my other partition ?
[11:46] <harisamin> 1.128 G
[11:46] <johnp> ! nickserv
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <greg_g> bryman: no worries
[11:47] <daren> ok i have it
[11:47] <mezziah_> johnp: what are you trying to do?
[11:47] <daren> how to get the md5 check for a file under ubuntu ?
[11:47] <bur[n] er> daquin1: you use it by running it from your menu, but you can't load the xp on the other partition
[11:47] <ashu> anyone using (used) GSM modems with ubuntu... i need a headstart
[11:47] <harisamin> Music_Shuffle: before when ubuntu was running on this RAM it had 768 mb
[11:47] <bur[n] er> daren: md5sum command
[11:47] <harisamin> Music_Shuffle: i added a 512 RAM chip...you think that might be messing it up?
[11:47] <Music_Shuffle> harisamin, it worked before you added it?
[11:47] <harisamin> Music_Shuffle: yeah
[11:48] <Ghost_Auk> johnp ,,,it is /msg NickServ REGISTER < your email address >
[11:48] <alecwh> I've installed Skype, and none of my friends can hear me on my microphone. I've set the sound so when I talk, I can hear it through my huge speakers, and it's perfect. But my friends say they can't hear me. Is there a way to fix this?
[11:48] <Pie> How can I change a .so to a different filetype?
[11:48] <Luke> johnp: type /msg NickServ help
[11:48] <Music_Shuffle> harisamin, logical conclusion: remove it and see what happens :D
[11:48] <daquin1> bur[n] er:  vmware-server can use my allready installed xp right ?
[11:48] <bur[n] er> Pie: a little more background would be helpful
[11:48] <harisamin> Music_Shuffle: lol thanx....sometimes you just need someone to state the obvious to you
[11:49] <daren> bur[n] er: When I burned a image to a cd, is the md5sum the same of the .iso and the cd ?
[11:49] <Music_Shuffle> harisamin, hope it works out :)
[11:49] <daquin1> is there anyway i can get outlook 2003 to run i need it for my job
[11:49] <bur[n] er> daquin1: kind of, but you have to modify the xp a whole lot... it's a major pain, i'd just install a virtualized XP
[11:49] <harisamin> Music_Shuffle: thanx...i'll try it
[11:49] <harisamin> exit
[11:49] <bryman> how would i possibly go about opening up a .run package?
[11:49] <Music_Shuffle> GL
[11:49] <jrib> bryman: what are you trying to install?
[11:49] <harisamin> \exit
[11:49] <bur[n] er> daren: got me, just boot it and run "check cd for defects"
[11:49] <Pie> bur[n] er I downloaded a new splash screen but it's in .so format, wondering how I can change it to jpg or png
[11:49] <daren> bur[n] er: Yes, cd is defect the programm tells me :/
[11:49] <bur[n] er> bryman: chmod +x blah.run; ./blah.run
[11:49] <daren> but the .iso has the right md5sum
[11:50] <SlimeyPete> bryman: open a terminal, navigate to the directory with the file in it then do a "sh <filename.sh>" or a "./<filename.sh>" without the <>
[11:50] <Hubris2> I have XVnc configured for resumable sessions, listening on port 5901.  If I want to have another session on 5902, can I modify the existing service, or do I create a second item called by xinetd.d ?
[11:50] <bur[n] er> daren: so logic says reburn it... just go slower
[11:50] <daren> ok
[11:50] <John> May I go into a private chat with someone here to try to fix my wireless internet issues, please?
[11:50] <bur[n] er> Pie: that page about custom usplash on the wiki says
[11:50] <bryman> jrib: drivers for my video card (when i first loaded it [about half hour ago] ) it said to load nvidia drivers, did, but they worked horribly (if you moved a window it would blur out) so i dl'd the drivers straight from nvidia for a linux x86 and here i am tryingt o open it.
[11:51] <brad016> man none of that limewire uninstall stuff has worked, any auto uninstallers
[11:51] <Slappy> Hello, what do i need if i want to run a Unreal ircd server?
[11:51] <jrib> bryman: use the packaged nvidia drivers
[11:51] <Music_Shuffle> brad016, are there no uninstall directions that come with it?
[11:51] <bur[n] er> bryman: try nvidia-glx-new ???
[11:51] <jrib> !nvidia > bryman (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:51] <brad016> no man
[11:51] <bur[n] er> bryman: what type of card?
[11:53] <bryman> jrib: ty...burner if this doesn't work i'm gonna try that
[11:53] <Music_Shuffle> brad016, what happens if you try to remove the package limewire-basic?
[11:53] <brad016> It doesn't give me the Apply option
[11:53] <John> The command sudo iptables -F clears all firewall rules, right?
[11:53] <brad016> exit
[11:54] <bur[n] er> brad016: try sudo apt-get remove limewire-basic?
[11:54] <brad016> okay
[11:54] <jrib> John: yes
[11:55] <John> I've done that and restarted, but my internet still does not work. I'm using WICD because I thought it may be of the network-manager that came with Ubuntu. I'm going to try clearing iptables one more time and see what happens.
[11:55] <brad016> thanx bur[n] er the limwire remove thing is working
[11:55] <brad016> and its gone
[11:55] <Music_Shuffle> Hey!  bur[n] er stole MY idea! :P
[11:55] <TheCougar> any one know if pidgin is in the package manager?
[11:55] <TheCougar> if not should it be soon ?
[11:55] <brad016> now I'll run the windows version in wine
[11:56] <bruenig> TheCougar, just 4 more months
[11:56] <Music_Shuffle> brad016, try Frostwire.
[11:56] <bur[n] er> TheCougar: it's not in feisty.... not going to be soon... www.getdeb.net has a .deb of pidgin 2.02 though
[11:56] <brad016> okay
[11:56] <mezziah> meh bur[n] er is too fast for me
[11:56] <TheCougar> bruenig: 4 months?
[11:56] <bruenig> TheCougar, yes
[11:56] <Nihil_85> hi
[11:56] <TheCougar> bur[n] er: packages aren't auto updated in the package manager as new ones come out?
[11:56] <abduliounited> hi!! to all
[11:56] <bruenig> TheCougar, no, what do you think this is arch or gentoo
[11:56] <bur[n] er> TheCougar: only if they are security patches
[11:56] <brad016> how do you reply to a persons question nd have them recognize it
[11:56] <brad016> like in red text
[11:57] <bruenig> brad016, put their name in the response
[11:57] <Slart> brad016: just put their nick first in the response
[11:57] <brad016> bruening, thank
[11:57] <brad016> you
[11:57] <bruenig> not my name
[11:57] <TheCougar> brad016: a lot of clients will highlight the users name when it is mentioned in the channel
[11:57] <Music_Shuffle> Slart, anywhere in the response works, doesnt it?
[11:57] <Slart> Music_Shuffle: depends on the client.. but usually yes
[11:57] <brad016> okay
[11:57] <Music_Shuffle> brad016, type part of their username and then hit tab to complete it, so you dont typo people's nicks :P
[11:57] <TheCougar> bur[n] er: well that sucks:) how do i run a deb file?
[11:58] <brad016> Music_Shuffle, coo
[11:58] <bruenig> TheCougar, sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:58] <brad016> Music_Shuffle, cool
[11:58] <The_Viper> Is it possible to make my usb keyboard work with grub?
[11:58] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[11:58] <Slart> TheCougar: dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:58] <brad016> Music_Shuffle,  thats a time saver
[11:58] <bur[n] er> TheCougar: double-click it :P
[11:58] <Slart> TheCougar: well.. of course with a sudo in front of it
[11:58] <Music_Shuffle> brad016, Most definitely
[11:59] <bryman> burner: nvidia 2
[11:59] <bryman> geforce 2
[11:59] <Slart> old-school?
[11:59] <bur[n] er> bryman: awww... you want nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:59] <bicbozi> hello people i am a newbie to linux and ive got ubutnu and i would like to know how to edit firehol.conf
[11:59] <bur[n] er> slart: dpkg -i for newbies... double-click is more their forte ;)
[11:59] <abduliounited> I have a problem with Gaim accounts: I can not type more then 13 characters. my MSN password has 16
[11:59] <Slart> bah.. this new stuff.. clicking here.. clicking there.. the command line is where it's at ;)
[11:59] <TheCougar> bla yeah pacakge installer does it for me:)
[11:59] <rafaell> j\ Olinda
[12:00] <bur[n] er> abduliounited: you could try pidgin, get it from getdeb.net
[12:00] <bryman> burner: have a link to how i could figure that out/
[12:00] <bur[n] er> abduliounited: I don't know that pidgin addresses the issue, but worth a shot
[12:00] <iMacThere4iAm> abrown: hey, just bought cedega :p
[12:00] <Slart> mostly because I'm used to install wine that way.. and I can't override architecture with the double-click thingy-majing
[12:00] <fnordperfect> hey, guys.. err, I've got a weird problem with my (new) DVD-Burner. It has no problems with DVDs, but it cannot handle CDs at all, neither can it write to CD-Rs nor read CD-ROMs nor play CDDA. does that make any sense to someone?
[12:00] <bryman> like how would i choose that one.
[12:00] <abduliounited> gaim was working before!! I uninstall and reinstall Gaim ...no luck
[12:00] <Pie> The wiki didn't help, at all
[12:00] <TheCougar> well its installed but not showing up on the applications menu


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[03:22] <Singham> Hi...Can I Strean a live video concert using Ubuntu one ?
[06:05] <karni> Good morning!
[07:44] <rdvonz> I'm having some trouble syncing folders outside of the primary ubuntu one folder. I end up with empty folders.
[08:11] <JamesTait> Morning all! :)
[08:37] <rye> morning
[09:03] <gatox> hi
[09:11] <mandel> gatox, morning!
[09:11] <mandel> gatox, did you see my comment regarding your review?
[09:13] <mandel> gatox, I need to have a quick coffee our I will start being a human, can you take a look and we chat about it if you have any doubts?
[09:13]  * mandel neeeeeds coffee...
[09:16] <gatox> mandel, ack
[09:16] <gatox> will re-review now
[09:36] <mandel> gatox, I'm back
[09:36] <mandel> gatox, did you see what I meant, there is an extra level to go up to get the correct path
[09:38] <gatox> mandel, ahh ok.....
[09:38] <gatox> +1 then
[09:40] <mandel> gatox, cool :)
[11:32]  * mandel walks dog
[12:49] <ralsina> morning!
[12:51] <gatox> ralsina, hi
[12:51] <ralsina> hola gatox!
[12:51] <ralsina> gatox: have any reviews? I need to look at code or I'm going to bore myself to death
[12:52] <gatox> ralsina, several :P but there are almost all of them assigned to people..... let me check if i have some free :D
[12:53] <ralsina> gatox: ok!
[12:53] <gatox> ralsina, i have 2
[12:53] <ralsina> cool!
[12:53] <gatox> ralsina, https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/successful-page  -  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/page-successful
[12:53] <gatox> they are related :D
[12:54] <ralsina> sso first, right?
[12:54] <gatox> ralsina, i don't know why i figure as a reviewer in one of them jeje
[12:54] <ralsina> give yourself a +1 ;-)
[12:54] <gatox> ralsina, yes...... but maybe you will need to set the pythonpath to point to the installer
[12:55] <ralsina> hmmmm that makes no sense
[12:55] <gatox> ah..... but not for test probably
[12:55] <ralsina> gatox: sso can not require installer
[12:55] <gatox> probably was the other way around....
[12:55] <ralsina> that does make sense :-)
[12:55] <gatox> ralsina, yes, you are right
[12:56] <gatox> ralsina, sso does not require the installer
[12:56] <ralsina> testing the branch in installer requiring pythonpath pointing to the sso branch, then. Ok!
[12:56] <gatox> yep
[12:57] <gatox> ralsina, i follow your advice in ninja :P remove two huge eventfilters.... and improve a lot the performance in the editor :D
[12:57] <gatox> your general advice about eventfilter
[12:57] <ralsina> see? eventFilter is of the devil
[12:57] <gatox> yep..... i see now
[12:57] <gatox> :P
[12:57] <ralsina> specially in python :-(
[12:57] <gatox> ralsina, it's the easy way
[12:58] <gatox> but you just need to figure it out how to do it with another event
[12:58] <dobey> hmm
[12:58] <ralsina> yes, eventFilter is like programming in one of the really old languages/toolkits, where everything was in a global scope. Like programming for Amiga or something.
[12:59] <gatox> :P
[13:00] <ralsina> for example, the (very) old way to code windows apps in C was to have a main loop and a switch that cascaded on events and messages. EVERYTHING was on the event loop :-)
[13:01] <gatox> ralsina, i couldn't work on my freaky friday project last week because i'm fighting with unicode, ctypes and the evil empire since last friday... i'm hope to have time to do it this friday... i'm finding issues with my username: "気弱な人 ñandú"
[13:01] <gatox> mandel, loves it :P jeeje
[13:01] <ralsina> faint of heart ñandú?
[13:02] <gatox> ñoño ñandú
[13:02] <ralsina> Ok, if you say so :-)
[13:02] <gatox> or at least..... that's what google translate says when i type ñoño and convert it to japanese :P
[13:02] <gatox> probably not
[13:02] <gatox> jejeje
[13:02] <ralsina> gatox: it doesn't roundtrip very well :-)
[13:07] <dobey> wtf
[13:07] <dobey> i just got spam for a bollywood version of iron man.
[13:17] <ralsina> dobey: is it any good?
[13:19] <dobey> ralsina: i don't speak hindi, so can't really say
[13:19] <dobey> it's very heavy on effects though
[13:20] <dobey> and the trailers are short and incomprehensible
[13:20] <dobey> Ra.One is the name of the movie
[13:20] <ralsina> sounds just like Iron Man!
[13:25] <ralsina> dobey, alecu, mandel, gatox: standup in 5'
[13:25] <gatox> ralsina, ack
[13:27] <dobey> "Are you sure you want to shut down?" "Yes, Yes I am." "Sorry, I can't do that, Dave."
[13:29] <ralsina> dobey: oneiric!
[13:29] <dobey> yup :(
[13:29] <mandel> dobey, hahaha
[13:30] <gatox> me
[13:30] <ralsina> me
[13:31] <mandel> me
[13:31] <ralsina> dobey, alecu? say me!
[13:31] <gatox> dobey, alecu ?
[13:31] <alecu> me
[13:32] <ralsina> dobey: say meh!
[13:32] <alecu> and hello!
[13:32] <gatox> alecu, hi :P
[13:32] <ralsina> hello :-)
[13:32] <ralsina> gatox go
[13:32] <gatox> DONE:
[13:32] <gatox> Fixed some branches, all of them should be ready now. Improves in successful page branch. Working on unicode issues and migrating some functions that were used from pywin32 to ctypes to access unicode specific functions.
[13:32] <gatox> TODO:
[13:32] <gatox> Keep working on unicode issues.
[13:32] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[13:32] <gatox> No
[13:32] <gatox> ralsina, go
[13:32] <ralsina> DONE: paperwork, trip preparations, changed return ticket so I can take a week off, london expenses, schedules, bored to death TODO: learn more about kanban, bore myself some more! BLOCKED: by boredom, MANDEL!
[13:33] <mandel> DONE: Continued work for bug 845659 by integrating a LoopingCall in the control panel. Reproduced bug 875283 on Vista.
[13:33] <mandel> TODO: Propose fix for bug 845659. Track pykeyring merge proposal status. Next bug.
[13:33] <mandel> BLOCKED: no
[13:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 845659 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Windows: implement the "there is a new version available" notifications (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845659
[13:33] <mandel> alecu, go!
[13:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 875283 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Update error (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875283
[13:34] <alecu> DONE: some experiments crossing ntlm server using ctnlm proxy wrapper
[13:34] <alecu> TODO: mumble about proxies with mandel, do some expenses too
[13:34] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[13:35] <alecu> gatox, let me know if I can be of any help on the unicode branches
[13:36] <gatox> alecu, yes, thanks... at this moment i'm just trying to figure it out how to use some functions via ctypes... and testing that
[13:36] <alecu> oh, and TODO: review nessita branch.
[13:36] <mandel> alecu, did she update the branch?
[13:36] <dobey> meh
[13:37] <dobey> λ DONE: banshee/libu1 SRUs, fix avahi package to include GI bindings, reviewed tim's branch
[13:37] <dobey> λ TODO: twisted+gi?
[13:37] <dobey> λ BLCK: No.
[13:37] <mandel> ditto for nessitas branch
[13:39] <mandel> ralsina, what do we do about bug 875283?
[13:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 875283 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Update error (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875283
[13:40] <mandel> ralsina, shall I implement a small dialog for the update, remove bitrock and let gatox style it like the rest of the app (or even more orange)
[13:40] <gatox> jejejeee
[13:40] <gatox> i knew you were going to say something like that
[13:41] <alecu> mandel, it seems she has updated the branch after your comments
[13:42] <alecu> mandel, we should vote to change gatox irc nick to "f87217"
[13:42] <gatox> alecu, hey alecu!!! jeje
[13:42] <mandel> alecu, he, it seems that we have more bugs after my comments :P
[13:43] <mandel> gatox, alecu: http://www.google.co.uk/search?gcx=w&ix=c2&q=gatox+naranja&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=592
[13:43] <mandel> the world is full of them!
[13:43] <gatox> jejjejjejeej
[13:43] <alecu> LOL
[13:45] <alecu> mandel, you are probably forgetting: http://bit.ly/gatox-naranja
[13:46] <gatox> :P
[13:46] <gatox> that explains a lot! jejej
[13:46]  * alecu votes to change gatox's irc nickname to "garfield"!
[13:46] <gatox> jejejej
[13:46] <mandel> gatox, alecu the comit is a lot better if we fire gatox http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/
[13:47] <alecu> lol
[13:47] <mandel> alecu, is waaaay more depresing without the cat, and yet funny for some reason :P
[13:48] <alecu> funnily depressing!
[14:00] <nessita> hello all!
[14:00] <gatox> nessita, hi!
[14:01] <nessita> hi gatox, I got the review email... I will do them as soon as I have some time
[14:01] <nessita> at the sprint, we're having session, so not that much "free" time to work
[14:01] <nessita> mandel: I pushed several changes to the mega-branch last night :-)
[14:01] <gatox> nessita, np..... i think i'll fighting for a long time with the unicode issues
[14:02] <nessita> gatox: email me anything you need, I will answer ASAP
[14:02] <nessita> gatox: but I may disappear from time to time from IRC
[14:03] <gatox> nessita, yes, no problem..... i'm testing some W functions with ctypes..... i'm executing one inn particular, and i'm trying to figure it out why the function return nonsucced (when it should work)
[14:04] <nessita> gatox: what do you mean with non-success?
[14:04] <nessita> -1?
[14:04] <nessita> non zero?
[14:05] <gatox> nessita, the doc says that return 0 for non-success and non zero in other case.... but probably i'm setting wrongly a parameters or something...... i'll check with mandel if i'm block, because he is the ctypes master :P
[14:05] <dobey> nessita: aren't you at a sprint or something? :)
[14:06] <nessita> dobey: I am!
[14:06] <nessita> dobey: sessioning about something I can talk about :-P
[14:06] <nessita> I cna't*
[14:06] <dobey> unity?
[14:06] <dobey> surely you have complaints about it ;)
[14:06] <nessita> heh!
[14:08] <ralsina> nessita: you are allowed to type "meh" and "sigh" in the channel
[14:09] <nessita> ;-)
[14:12] <mandel> nessita, I'll review your branch as soon as I'm done with the work I'm at the moment :)
[14:13] <mandel> gatox, you might be dealing with a problem regarding you user not mappint to an ID number in the account system.. take a look around there (if you are working with the metog you asked me about)
[14:14] <gatox> mandel, ok..... i'll let you know later if i could fix it
[14:16] <mandel> gatox, yeah, If you do tell me, because I'm sure I don't know how :P
[14:16] <gatox> jejej
[14:18] <alecu> mandel, I'm taking amelia to kinder, and after that I'd like to mumble with you if you are still here.
[14:19] <mandel> alecu, sure, ping me when you are back, I have 3 more hours aprox
[14:21] <nessita> mandel: no rush!
[14:21] <nessita> alecu: hey there... the mega-branch has all the fixes you requested
[14:32] <Jackslaps> Can anyone help me with an Ubuntu One problem?
[14:32] <Jackslaps> Came here last time but no one responded
[14:33] <beuno> rye, duanedesign, ^
[14:34] <duanedesign> helo Jackslaps
[14:34] <rye> Jackslaps, hi
[14:34] <Jackslaps> Cool, aight
[14:34] <Jackslaps> I've been having syncing problems for about a month now
[14:34] <Jackslaps> I tried some commands on the terminal to see what the status on ubuntu one was like
[14:35] <Jackslaps> says that it's on idle
[14:35] <Jackslaps> I disconnect and reconnect constantly, but nothing happens
[14:36] <rye> Jackslaps, do you mean that the files did not get uploaded despite saying it is IDLE or that filesync was not connecting properly?
[14:36] <nessita> ralsina: is bug #827465 still an issue/
[14:36] <ubot4> nessita: Error: Bug #827465 not found.
[14:36] <nessita> ?
[14:37] <ralsina> must be private
[14:37] <nessita> bug #827465
[14:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 827465 in ubuntuone-windows-installer (and 2 other projects) "QT UI name of the application (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827465
[14:37] <Jackslaps> Thing is that I bought like... three albums on the music store
[14:37] <ralsina> nessita: I think we can close that one
[14:37] <Jackslaps> and only some have transferred over to One
[14:37] <ralsina> nessita: tuens out that name is added in the signing process, so it seems to have worked on the last release
[14:37] <rye> Jackslaps, could you please paste your e-mail privately to me?
[14:38] <nessita> ralsina: could you please comment and close? :-)
[14:38] <ralsina> Doing it :-)
[14:38] <Jackslaps> I'm using irssi, so I don't really know how to privately message
[14:39] <dobey> Jackslaps: /msg same as any other irc client :)
[14:39] <Jackslaps> oh aight
[14:40] <Jackslaps> did it work?
[14:40] <Jackslaps> the message I mean
[14:42] <rye> Jackslaps, yes, received, looking up the account
[14:42] <Jackslaps> Here's the status I have on my connection:
[14:43] <Jackslaps> State: CHECK_VERSION connection: With User With Network description: checking protocol version is_connected: True is_error: False is_online: False queues: IDLE
[14:44] <rye> Jackslaps, at the moment the server team makes changes to the servers to prevent them from being slow and dropping connection that often.
[14:44] <mandel> ralsina, ping
[14:45] <ralsina> mandel: ponga!
[14:45] <rye> Jackslaps, according to your account, all files were downloaded to your online storage. I suppose you don't see them on your local hard disk, is that correct?
[14:45] <Jackslaps> Yeah I guess so
[14:45] <mandel> ralsina, I'm adding the autoupdater to the control panel and I found some funny logic, do you mind taking a quick look?
[14:45] <ralsina> mandel: sure, where?
[14:46] <Jackslaps> Like, I'm looking at the Purchased music folder on One
[14:46] <mandel> ralsina, in ubuntuone/cotrolpanel/gui/qt/gui.py in the start method, the :
[14:46] <mandel> if not minimized:
[14:46] <mandel>         if with_icon or minimized:
[14:46] <Jackslaps> and it lists the albums I've bought
[14:46] <Jackslaps> but none of them are filled with any songs
[14:46] <nessita> gatox: conflict in https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/connect-files/+merge/79611
[14:46] <ralsina> mandel: that looks like something I didn't delete completely
[14:47] <ralsina> it should be "if with_icon"
[14:47] <gatox> nessita, ok, fixing.....
[14:47] <mandel> ralsina, that is what I was thinking, but I wanted to double check
[14:47] <Jackslaps> The only album that shows up with any songs is one of my Trans-Siberian Orchestra albums; the others are empty
[14:47] <ralsina> mandel: should be just that, agreed
[14:47] <mandel> ralsina, ok, thats all, thx!
[14:49] <duanedesign> Jackslaps: can you run this command in a terminal to see how many files are in your sync queue -  u1sdtool --waiting | wc -l
[14:52] <Jackslaps> says 0, so none
[14:59] <rye> Jackslaps, are you using Banshee or Rhythmbox?
[14:59] <Jackslaps> Banshee
[15:00] <rye> Jackslaps, when you are looking at "Purchased music folder", is this on the web interface or locally, in ~/.ubuntuone/Purchased from Ubuntu One folder?
[15:01] <Jackslaps> locally
[15:01] <Jackslaps> Also to note is that on the Ubuntu One Music Store tab of Banshee
[15:01] <rye> Jackslaps, ok, could you please visit the https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ and navigate to Purchased Music folder?
[15:02] <Jackslaps> under My Downloads, the songs I'm missing are in a constant state of "Transferring to your Ubuntu One storage"
[15:03] <rye> Jackslaps, interesting. That may mean that SD does not see that the folder has changed. Or that client was not able to connect properly, could you please check the online version of the folder?
[15:05] <dobey> need to get lunch, bbiab
[15:05] <Jackslaps> Hmm, the web interface tells me that all my songs are downloaded
[15:06] <Jackslaps> Yup, all the songs seem to be listed there
[15:12] <rye> Jackslaps, ok, now could you please re-check the status of syncdaemon - u1sdtool --status ?
[15:13] <Jackslaps> QUEUE_MANAGER connection: With User With Network description: processing the commands pool is_connected: True is_error: False is_online: True queues: IDLE
[15:20] <rye> Jackslaps, interesting
[15:20] <rye> Jackslaps, ok, let's poke it, u1sdtool --list-folders - could you please paste the line that has "Purchased from Ubuntu One" in it?
[15:21] <Jackslaps> id=2741a705-aefb-4119-abb4-f52c9b997fdc subscribed=True path=/home/chris/.ubuntuone/Purchased from Ubuntu One
[15:23] <rye> Jackslaps, ok, please run u1sdtool --rescan-from-scratch=2741a705-aefb-4119-abb4-f52c9b997fdc
[15:24] <rye> Jackslaps, that forces the client to request full data from the server, not only the latest changes.
[15:25] <Jackslaps> aight getting it
[15:25] <Jackslaps> alright*
[15:25] <Jackslaps> says 49 files are being downloaded
[15:34] <Jackslaps> I'm checking the Downloads tab in the music store
[15:34] <Jackslaps> and nothing has changed
[15:34] <Jackslaps> however it says it's still syncing
[15:35] <Jackslaps> and by nothing has changed, I mean nothing is showing me that it's actively downloading anything new
[15:37] <Jackslaps> the majority of the songs I'm missing are stuck at "Transferring to your Ubuntu One storage" or "0.0MB of 0.0MD downloaded"
[15:39] <Reaper> thats odd, ive noticed there is a bit of time from when you upload something to when you can dl it to your equipment. But since the servers have gotten somewhat fixed I havent had much problem
[15:40] <Jackslaps> I've actually have had this problem occur all the time since 10.10
[15:41] <gatox> lunch! brb
[15:41] <Reaper> ahh I just started using it, so i'd make a bad benchmark.
[15:41] <Jackslaps> The only album I've bought flawlessly was my Airbourne album
[15:42] <Jackslaps> that was my first purchase
[15:42] <Jackslaps> since then I've been having problems left and right
[15:42] <Reaper> got cha.. i mostly use it to transfer files and stuff. I'd upload my own music lol
[15:42] <Reaper> wouldnt try to buy it
[15:43] <rye> Jackslaps, could you please run u1sdtool --status again?
[15:43] <Reaper> man gnome classic runs so much better on 11.10 !
[15:44] <rye> Jackslaps, by _this_ you mean that purchased files were not downloading for you?
[15:44] <Jackslaps> yup
[15:44] <Jackslaps> also:
[15:44] <Jackslaps> WAITING connection: With User With Network description: waiting before try connecting again is_connected: False is_error: False is_online: False queues: WORKING
[15:45] <rye> Jackslaps, yes, this is what we are currently fixing. The syncdaemon has found the missing files but was disconnected by the server due to error. We are currently adjusting the servers (and by currently I mean "as we speak"). The performance of sync is not something we are satisfied with.
[15:48] <Jackslaps> also oddly enough I'm getting some sort of update notification saying the update information is incorrect
[15:49] <Jackslaps> that I should click "check for updates" to check if some respositories failed
[15:49] <Jackslaps> I do so, yet nothing happened
[15:49] <Jackslaps> I try to update the normal way, although I had previously updated earlier this morning, and it says I'm up to date
[15:50] <Jackslaps> and now it's gone
[15:50] <Jackslaps> it does this every 5 minutes or so since I've started this troubleshooting session
[16:11] <Jackslaps> So uh... how's the server adjustment going along?
[16:17] <mandel> alecu, ping?
[16:17] <alecu> mandel, pong!
[16:18] <mandel> alecu, shall we do a super quick mumble?
[16:18] <alecu> mandel, super quick is fine for me
[16:18] <mandel> alecu, lest do it then!
[16:18] <mandel> :)
[16:29] <nessita> @ping
[16:29] <ubot4> pong
[16:39] <dobey> nessita: more boring unity design talk? ;)
[16:39]  * mandel rugby
[16:39] <nessita> dobey: a little, yes :-)
[16:40] <dobey> nessita: complain about how unity forces gnome-terminal to always have a menu, so you can't use Alt-modifier keybindings :)
[16:41] <nessita> dobey: so far I have complained 0 times... so don't make me start! ;-)
[16:41] <dobey> nessita: but if *you* complain, they might listen. unlike when i complain :)
[16:42] <nessita> dobey: I will see what I can do :-)
[16:42] <dobey> nessita: try using mc in a gnome-terminal under unity on oneiric, and you'll see what i mean :)
[16:43] <nessita> dobey: I will...
[16:44] <ralsina> dobey: you can always use esc-whatever instead of alt in mc IIRC (but yes it sucks)
[16:44] <dobey> ralsina: you can't type esc-b on general command line to go back one word though
[16:44] <dobey> and even if you could, Esc is *WAY* up there in the corner
[16:44] <ralsina> oh, that one, yes
[16:45] <ralsina> I have esc mapped to capslock ;-)
[16:46] <dobey> because exactly what i need, is to accidentally hit Esc in a dialog window, when trying to tab between fields. no thanks ;)
[16:46] <ralsina> oh, but for vi, it's joy
[16:46] <dobey> yeah. also. i don't use vi.
[16:47] <dobey> and i don't think i ever hit esc in emacs
[16:47] <ralsina> Whoa, it costs U$S 350 to get medical insurance for 2 weeks in the US. That's*alot*
[16:49] <Jackslaps> You should see what we pay yearly
[16:50] <ralsina> Jackslaps: I would not be surprised if the answer is like U$S 9100 ;-)
[16:50] <dobey> ralsina: if you get sick, just rob a bank, and wait for the police to pick you up. then you'll get free health coverage during your incarceration
[16:51] <ralsina> dobey: well... I can do that, but my kid is not prison material
[16:52] <dobey> ralsina: eh, it will toughen him up :)
[16:52] <ralsina> dobey: he's tough! http://s2.i1.picplzthumbs.com/upload/img/73/9e/33/739e33bab87165733e66800c17e2818c7812847d_400r.jpg
[16:53] <ralsina> Or rather http://picplz.com/user/ralsina/pic/6zftw/
[16:53] <dobey> heh
[16:55] <ralsina> In any case, it's weird that if any of you is sick when you come here, I know I can take you to a hospital and get you fixed
[16:56] <dobey> bloody socialists!
[16:56] <ralsina> but if I get a tooth ache in the US I am going to have to pawn my wife to pay for it
[16:57] <ralsina> ok, lunchtime!
[16:58] <dobey> ralsina: there's this thing going on right now in the US… maybe you've heard of it. something to do with the f'd up state of the union, with people occupying various parks and government/financial institution related areas, in protest.
[16:58] <ralsina> dobey: yeah, you are busy imitating spanish hippies from 6 montha ago, I heard
[16:59] <ralsina> Or disgruntled argentinians from 10 yers ago, even
[16:59] <ralsina> And probably annoyed greeks from 2500 years ago ;-0
[16:59] <nessita> lunchtime!!!
[17:00] <dobey> those damn egyptian slaves, wanting to go out into the wilderness and praise to their god!
[17:01] <ralsina> dobey: I saw a sign at the pyramid saying "we are the (bird scepter guy-walking-weird)%
[17:01] <dobey> horus?
[18:14] <gatox> ok, eod for me... see you tomorrow
[18:14]  * gatox is going to read to learn how to manage the dark arts of ctypes
[18:14] <gatox> how to*
[18:14] <ralsina_> gatox: good luck
[18:14] <gatox> ralsina_, with ctypes? :P
[18:14] <ralsina_> gatox: yep
[18:15] <ralsina_> gatox: basically, you are going to be able to segfault python now
[18:15] <gatox> ralsina_, jeje
[18:15] <gatox> alecu, i'll keep looking for another solution, i'll let you know if i found something...
[18:16] <dobey> segfaulting python is pretty easy
[18:16] <ralsina_> dobey: there are a few known ways, but doing it without 3rd party libraries or ctypes is pretty hard
[18:17] <dobey> ralsina_: and writing any sort of moderately useful application without third party libraries or ctypes, is nigh impossible :)
[18:18] <ralsina_> dobey: look, a nit! pick it! ;-)
[18:19] <dobey> if only there was some way to embed flash, and automate it, offscreen, in python
[18:20] <ralsina_> dobey: there is!
[18:20] <dobey> though 8.29*10^23 or whatever is still way too many combinations to generate
[18:21] <ralsina_> dobey: there is a completely headless, no X, version of qtwebkit somewhere.
[18:21] <dobey> sure, xvfb i guess
[18:21] <ralsina_> No, no X
[18:21] <ralsina_> let me look for the link
[18:21] <dobey> ralsina_: i said flash, not html. if it's without X, i'm sure it doesn't embed flash very well
[18:22] <dobey> also, it's qt :(
[18:22] <ralsina_> yes, the plugin stuff is probably not supported
[18:22] <dobey> i'll just wait and do this sort of thing next time 'round i think
[18:39] <alecu> gatox_comprando_, found a much cleaner solution...
[18:39] <alecu> gatox_comprando_, I'm cleaning it up, then I'll post it in a pastebin
[18:40] <dobey> nessita: are you making a branch for the ValueError thing then? i see you assigned it to yourself
[18:40] <nessita> dobey: yes I am, I discussed it with facundo yesterday
[18:41] <dobey> ok, cool
[18:50] <gatox> alecu, i'm back!!! want to know!! do you have any doc?? :P
[19:02] <ralsina_> facundobatista_: can you take a quick look at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/83677880/syncdaemon.log ?
[19:03] <ralsina_> facundobatista_: there is a weird error "[filename] discarded because of volume not subscribed"
[19:03] <alecu> gatox, this is the way: http://paste.ubuntu.com/719088/
[19:04] <alecu> gatox, no ctypes at all!
[19:05] <gatox> alecu, super cool!!!
[19:05] <alecu> gatox, I went thru a couple of MSDN and codeproject articles, and thru the python win32api docs and this is the best solution IMnsHO
[19:06] <gatox> alecu, i'll check that now with my evil user! :P
[19:06] <ralsina_> gatox, alecu: yes, win32api is preferred to ctypes whenever possible
[19:07] <alecu> gatox, already checked with my user named "雄鳥お人好し"
[19:08] <nessita> alecu: nice! does that return an unicode?
[19:08] <alecu> nessita, no need for unicode. This returns a PySID and that's what we really need.
[19:08] <alecu> nessita, we needed the unicode username in order to get the PySID.
[19:09] <nessita> alecu: is that all we need? how are we implementing the expanduser if we don't have the username?
[19:09] <alecu> nessita, we should *NOT* use the username to get the user folder.
[19:09] <alecu> nessita, the user folder should be gotten using an API
[19:10] <alecu> nessita, because it might not be the standard location.
[19:10] <nessita> alecu: right, the get_special_folders function
[19:11] <nessita> alecu: actually, you just made me realize we should be grabbing the user home from xdg... and perhaps adding the new implementation for windows there
[19:11] <ralsina_> I need to contact xdg upstream so a reasonable implementation of xdg for windows gets there
[19:12] <nessita> alecu: hum, I think I lied
[19:12] <dobey> haha
[19:12] <nessita> no home in xdg
[19:12] <dobey> ralsina_: xdg upstream. good one
[19:12] <gatox> nessita, some other parts of the code are using expanduser, not this one in particular
[19:12] <ralsina_> dobey: that proabbly means becoming the upstream, right?
[19:12] <nessita> gatox: what do you mean? define "this one" ;-)
[19:13] <gatox> nessita, os_helper in windows
[19:13] <dobey> ralsina_: yeah, python-xdg hasn't been touched in a long time it seems
[19:13] <gatox> nessita, this issue was related to something else
[19:13] <dobey> ralsina_: several bugs open against it with patches, and no response. i think the maintainer just stopped screwing with it
[19:13] <nessita> gatox: so, the main goal is to be able to have the user home properly calculated, no?
[19:13] <ralsina_> dobey: and it's broken on Linux, at least when it comes to finding the cache folder and all that stuff. It ignores config files that move them.
[19:13] <dobey> welcome to FOSS! :)
[19:14] <dobey> how so?
[19:14] <ralsina_> dobey: let me find my notes
[19:15] <gatox> nessita, yes, but this issue that alecu solved, was causing syncdaemon to explote when a unicode username just because the funciont LookupAccountName didn't handle unicode... but the issue about the dirty paths is something else..... or maybe we are talking about different things :P
[19:15] <ralsina_> dobey: I remembered wrong, python-xdg simply has nothing to find Video/Music/whatever folders
[19:16] <nessita> gatox: I see. Ok then!
[19:16] <dobey> ralsina_: and i'm not sure what you mean by "config files that change them" really. the directories are set by env vars
[19:16] <ralsina_> dobey: not only by env vars
[19:16] <dobey> ralsina_: right. it was stopped being touched before those were introduced, so it doesn't know about them
[19:16] <dobey> ralsina_: yes, by env vars. that one config file to specify the user dirs is read by a thing that sets the env vars when logging in to gnome
[19:17] <dobey> (or to kde too i guess)
[19:17] <dobey> xdg base directory specification contains no mention of config files
[19:17] <ralsina_> dobey: well, it mentions XDG_CONFIG_DIRS
[19:17] <ralsina_> oh, get it it's for other stuff
[19:18] <dobey> yes, XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_CONFIG_HOME are to specify where apps should look at to read/store configuration files
[19:20] <ralsina_> I was confused with xdg-user-dirs actually
[19:20] <ralsina_> That one does have a config file
[19:21] <ralsina_> which it doesn't read, because on linux we are too cool
[19:21] <ralsina_> ;-)
[19:21] <dobey> which what doesn't read?
[19:23] <ralsina_> dobey: it specifies a standdard config file, but it only uses the env vars.
[19:24] <dobey> what is "it" ?
[19:24] <ralsina_> xdg-user-dirs
[19:24]  * dobey feels like he's a knight who no longer says ni.
[19:24] <dobey> xdg-user-dirs does use the config file
[19:25] <dobey> xdg-user-dirs is simply a tool which sets the environment vars from that config file
[19:25] <dobey> there is no "xdg user directories" specification
[19:25] <dobey> python-xdg has a BaseDirectory module which impleements the xdg base directory specification, and doesn't know anything about xdg-user-dirs which is a hack that came after python-xdg stopped really being maintained
[19:26] <ralsina_> ok, got it then
[19:26] <dobey> we should just stop using python-xdg, and use the glib API for this stuff
[19:26] <dobey> then it will a) work and b) we won't have to maintain yet another project we don't want to maintain :)
[19:26] <ralsina_> OTOH, something that tells us where the user has his images/videos/whatever is actually useful
[19:27] <dobey> which is why glib has API for it :)
[19:27] <dobey> however it's also a bunch of bollocks, because i don't put anything in those locations
[19:27] <ralsina_> dobey: that's because you are weird
[19:27] <dobey> and in fact, i think on my computer they all just point at $HOME
[19:28] <ralsina_> if they do, that *is* bollocks
[19:28] <dobey> well, because i deleted the directories i don't use
[19:48] <jderose> Chipaca: so i didn't see something like this already, so i regsitered this blueprint to discuss couchdb sync in P - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-u1-couchdb-sync
[19:55] <dobey> jderose: i think he's on a plane or going to be soon.
[19:57] <jderose> dobey: ah, cool, thanks ;)
[19:58] <jderose> dobey: that blueprint might overlap with something already registered, but i couldn't find anything
[20:01] <dobey> ok
[20:04] <jderose> ug, everytime blueprints confuse the crap out of me :-/
[20:05] <dobey> blueprints can be pretty confusing
[20:07] <jderose> dobey: you're telling me! :)
[20:10] <dobey> i hope all the things i ordered get here before i have to leave
[20:18] <jderose> dobey: what did you order? leave for where?
[20:18] <dobey> leave for uds
[20:19] <jderose> dobey: ah sweet, we'll have to hang out! :)
[20:19] <dobey> some stuff for my car project, and alto saxophone/reeds/strap
[20:20] <jderose> dobey: so are you saying there will be a saxophonist in the All Stars Jam? ;)
[20:21] <dobey> no
[20:21] <dobey> i didn't say i knew how to play, i said i bought one :)
[20:22] <dobey> i'm still undecided on whether i will bring the camera or not
[20:25] <jderose> dobey: bring the camera, bring the camera!!!! :-D
[20:26] <dobey> heh
[20:33] <dobey> maybe i should go ahead and upgrade to 12.04 on my laptop and watch it fail to work
[21:25] <nessita> alecu: ping
[21:31] <dobey> have a good evening all
[21:31] <nessita> bye d
[21:31] <nessita> o
[21:31] <nessita> b
[21:31] <nessita> e
[21:31] <nessita> y
[21:42] <nessita> ok, eoding for now
[21:42] <nessita> bye all!


[14:08] <gregor_> Hi, please make the navigation at http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/ usable without javascript! Thanks.
[14:16] <gregor_> some sites at the shop are also not fully usable without javascript, http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=134 See Bigger Image does not work...
[20:27] <Rafik> hello all
[20:28] <Rafik> https://ubuntu.com/ returns : Secure Connection Failed
[20:28] <Rafik> oups, that's normal i think ^^
[20:37] <newz2000> correct
[20:37] <newz2000> we use the https for something else
[20:47] <Rafik> newz2001: hi
[20:47] <newz2001> hey
[20:48] <Rafik> newz2001: i'm about filing a bug/blueprint about making the website multilingual
[20:48] <Rafik> what do you think about it ?
[20:48] <newz2001> It won't happen
[20:48] <newz2001> we have discussed this many times at depth
[20:48] <gregor_> Hi, please make the navigation at http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/ usable without javascript! Thanks.
[20:48] <gregor_> some sites at the shop are also not fully usable without javascript, http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=134 See Bigger Image does not work...
[20:49] <Rafik> newz2001: can I have links/references please ?
[20:49] <newz2001> Rafik: we're discussing a way to make it easier for people to find localized resources (via official locos) though
[20:49] <newz2001> join the mailing list, it will be discussed in the next month for sure
[20:49] <newz2001> also search the archives, we've discussed it there
[20:50] <Rafik> newz2001: ok
[20:50] <Rafik> newz2001: please take a look at : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rafik/Ideas
[20:50] <newz2001> Rafik: feel free to start discussion on it again on the mailing list
[20:50] <newz2001> it is one of my goals for this release cycle
[20:50] <Rafik> newz2001: i'll do :)
[20:51] <newz2001> gregor_: the team for the qa site is at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qa
[20:52] <newz2001> I'm afraid they're the best contacts. No one here has access to that site
[20:52] <newz2001> gregor_: can you clarify what you mean about the shop having probs?
[20:52] <Rafik> newz2001: this bug is there for sometime now, can you fix it ?
[20:52] <Rafik> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/275971
[20:52] <ubot3> Malone bug 275971 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu Local support - Arabic Language" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:53] <gregor_> newz2001, without javascript you can not zoom the picture, i think this is on every item in the shop
[20:53] <newz2001> Rafik: yes, I'll do it later today
[20:53] <Rafik> newz2001: thank you
[20:53] <newz2001> gregor_: I'll look into it but don't get your hopes up.


[02:17] <mwhudson> wgrant: running debmirror against a ppa seems to result in the odd 500 failure
[02:17] <mwhudson> wgrant: this seems a bit surprising to me but is it known?
[02:34] <wgrant> mwhudson: A 500 is just about impossible. Which files?
[02:34] <mwhudson> wgrant:  Download of pool/main/g/golang-bindata/golang-bindata-dev_3.0.3-1_amd64.deb failed: 500 Server closed connection without sending any data back
[02:35] <mwhudson> from, er, mwhudson/trusty-go-rebuilds-dh-golang-2/ubuntu
[02:35] <mwhudson> wgrant: could be a proxy, i wonder if debmirror uses the apt proxy configuration?
[02:36] <mwhudson> i could test the theory by running it again with a different target folder and seeing if it's quicker i guess...
[02:37] <wgrant> mwhudson: I don't see any reasonable way that could 500, since it's just apache serving from a filesystem with no rewrites or anything.
[02:37] <mwhudson> wgrant: this is why i mentioned it!
[02:38] <wgrant> mwhudson: Indeed. Let me know if you don't track it down to a proxy.
[02:42] <mwhudson> wgrant: doesn't seem to be going via my squid-deb-proxy in any case
[02:42] <mwhudson> happened again though
[02:42] <mwhudson> [ 28%] Getting: pool/main/g/go-md2man/go-md2man_1.0.2.orig.tar.gz... failed 500 Server closed connection without sending any data back
[02:42] <wgrant> Oh, so a debmirror 500, not a real 500.
[02:42] <mwhudson> ah
[02:42] <wgrant> debmirror has a bad habit of converting random errors into HTTP error codes.
[02:42] <wgrant> That's not totally impossible.
[02:43] <mwhudson> ah so this is probably "just" a request that timed out or something?
[02:43] <wgrant> Right, I expect so.
[02:43] <wgrant> A tcpdump might be able to confirm.
[02:43] <mwhudson> i have rather too much going on right now to want to do anything with tcpdump :-p
[02:43] <mwhudson> but maybe another day
[08:27] <cjwatson> wgrant: 500> That's LWP rather than specifically debmirror.
[08:29] <cjwatson> (We could possibly turn off the use_eval option and organise some alternative handling, but that option is undocumented.)
[08:30] <wgrant> cjwatson: I encompass all Perl silliness in debmirror.
[08:30] <cjwatson> Heh.