[00:00] <Dr_Willis> any one of the following --> nvidia-glx-96  nvidia-glx-71 nvidia-glx-180 nvidia-glx-173
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> guess he dident want to tell us?
[00:02] <riccardo> i told you we must be very fast or it will bock
[00:02] <riccardo> what's the acket?
[00:02] <mrgenericuser> if anyone else has problems w 2 monitors, separate x screens, some apps launched on second screen opening on first i found an answer here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+question/77380  its a glib2 issue
[00:03] <riccardo> restricted driver
[00:03] <bazhang> riccardo, any one of the following --> nvidia-glx-96  nvidia-glx-71 nvidia-glx-180 nvidia-glx-173
[00:03] <riccardo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pro] (rev a3)
[00:03] <riccardo> i did it but...
[00:03] <riccardo> nothing happens
[00:03] <bazhang> !nvidia | riccardo read the links
[00:03] <olskolirc_> could someone say my name please?
[00:04] <olskolirc_> wait
[00:04] <olskolirc_> brb
[00:06] <riccardo> i don't see prop drv in use
[00:06] <bazhang> riccardo, have you read the links? tried any of the solutions offered so far?
[00:08] <Dacvak> I'm sorry to sound so desperate, but I'm on the road right now (using my laptop battery and a tethered connect) on LiveCD and I'm trying to recover my backed-up GRUB so I can boot into Ubuntu. To do that, I need to mount my root partition, but I'm not sure how to do that.
[00:09] <GuidMorrow> wth! I forgot the command to fix this! "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[00:10] <riccardo__> heelp
[00:10] <edoceo> Dacvak: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/target ?
[00:10] <riccardo__> i need proprietary fìdrivers
[00:10] <bazhang> GuidMorrow, do you have more than one instance of apt open?
[00:10] <Dacvak> edoceo: Is there more to that, or is that it?
[00:10] <riccardo__> in system administaration ther's nothing!!!
[00:11] <kavurt> Dacvak, you have a live cd, you can reinstall grub, don't you want it?
[00:11] <bazhang> riccardo__, we gave some solutions; what have you tried so far? reading the links? trying any of the drivers suggested?
[00:11] <edoceo> Dacvak: depends on your system, could be /dev/sda2 or 3 or or 9 - try ls /dev/sd* to see which one it could be
[00:11] <edoceo> And /mnt/target may not exist, may have to create first
[00:11] <Dacvak> kavurt: I actually backed up GRUB (dual-boot installed Windows 7) and have the command to replace it with the backup, but I don't know how exactly to do it.
[00:12] <Dacvak> edoceo: How can I find out which one it is?
[00:13] <Untouchab1e> mrgenericuser: that didnt work
[00:13] <edoceo> IDK, it's something you should likely know about your system.  fdisk or cfdisk or the like may be able to show you your partition types, then you could guesss
[00:13] <ubuntu> hi, what does it mean, when I get the following error message:
[00:13] <ubuntu> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.28-14-generic/build: No such file or directory.
[00:13] <Untouchab1e> got "failed to initialize 2:00:0 or whatever it was
[00:13] <edoceo> Types that are ext3 are generally a root partition (or one for /var if you did that, or /boot (but I make mine ext2) )
[00:13] <mrgenericuser> hmmm......
[00:13] <Untouchab1e> I guess its somehow related to the technical side of hybrid-sli
[00:14] <kavurt> Dacvak, don't you have a grub installed already right now?
[00:14] <Untouchab1e> Vista is the Only OS that allows for hotswapping, but I would still think there was some way to specify Linux to only use the 9200m card
[00:14] <mrgenericuser> maybe, i don't know anyone running sli in linux....
[00:14] <Untouchab1e> yeah, again.. this isnt SLI, this is hybrid-sli
[00:14] <Untouchab1e> and thats the problem
[00:14] <Untouchab1e> hehe
[00:16] <Lunis> hmm here's a possible solution...how could i manage writing a wrapper that i can code to take a --class arg that will open my app inside it?
[00:16] <Fabiano> I left an ubuntu CD in my drive so that i can test it out live...left after rebooting my computer and came back after 30 mins and now my RAID is gone...any advice?
[00:16] <Sneaky-Jesus> Doesn't sound like something Ubuntu will have caused, Fabiano
[00:16] <Sneaky-Jesus> But i'm not sure.
[00:17] <Fabiano> theese are 5 month old Western Digital BC 5 yr warranty drives....
[00:17] <tsrk_> how can I allow root login via SSH keys but not SSH password?
[00:17] <mrgenericuser> untouchable, googling, looks like hybrid sli might not be supported in nvidia linux drivers yet.....
[00:18] <ryanprior> Hey there. I'm having trouble with Skype calls -- when I do a test call and it asks me to record a message, my recorded message never plays back. What do I need to do to get my audio capture working?
[00:18] <mrgenericuser> and i have had experience in the past that shows ati/nvidia drivers may selectivly ignore parts of xorg.conf...
[00:18] <enthdegree> hello
[00:19] <tony__> Sup ppl
[00:19] <danbhfive> ryanprior: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
[00:19] <Untouchab1e> mrgenericuser: you are very correct in the fact that hybrid-sli isnt supported
[00:19] <hbekel> Lunis: the latest xdotool can set the window class, but only for existing windows
[00:19] <Untouchab1e> but again, wikipedia just states that hotswapping isnt supported
[00:19] <Untouchab1e> but I havent managed to google up anyone who have actually managed to disable the 9400m card
[00:20] <Dacvak> Back. Reinstalled GRUB. Worked great. Final question: How do I get GRUB to allow me to choose whether or not to boot into windows or Ubuntu?
[00:20] <Untouchab1e> oh well, I think I will just have to let the issue pass for now..
[00:20] <Untouchab1e> I got another one though..
[00:21] <enthdegree> Whenever I open a fullscreen game, such as Battle for Wesnoth or something, my system tray applications (possibly all of my background apps, too?) terminate. Crunchbang 9.04, 2gb ram.
[00:21] <ubuntu> i need help installing the driver for a ralink dwl-g122 usbstick
[00:21] <Untouchab1e> when I connect my laptop to my LG 32" LCD TV through HDMI, the image is either overscaled or the resolution is way to low (only taking up a portion of the TV)
[00:21] <Lunis> hbekel: that would work except that i really need it to happen before the window is mapped
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  grub gets its menu from the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. You ned to have a 'entry' in theer for the windows partitions you want to boot.
[00:22] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis: How can I do that?
[00:23] <hbekel> Lunis: i'm not sure what you want to achieve, though, always maximized by default, and another script to launch it non-maximized?
[00:23] <jessen> I'm using vim latex-suite and when I press enter on an error in the quickfix window, nothing happens
[00:23] <Qu4R0w> i just install xp +ubuntu + suse..at last,i install suse then it take over ubuntu grub.how can i make suse boot handled by ubuntu?
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  theres an example entry near the top of the menu.lst file.  if your windows install is on the first partition of the first hard drive it will work. Just uncomment it.
[00:24] <Dacvak> I'll try that.
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  the !fixgrub guides give more info also.
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[00:24] <Lunis> hbekel: maximus will auto-maximize apps based on class. i want gnome-terminal auto-maxed, and it is, but i want to launch gnome-terminal via another launcher so as to keep it from being maximized by maximus. to do this i need to force it to have a window class that i can easily blacklist in maximus' config. ex: WM_CLASS of `no-max'
[00:26] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis, I don't see any specific Windows boot option in that file. Any idea what to do?
[00:26] <hbekel> Lunis: doesn't the gnome-terminal provide an option to set the name part of the class property? xterm and urxvt both support -n for that, and that's what i use for different settings in openbox
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  look again in the comments..
[00:27] <Lunis> hbekel: erm, i guess it never occurred to me that that could be a possibility
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  near the top of the file
[00:27] <owen1> how to add a folder to the $PATH in chroot?
[00:27] <felix_> hi. my blog isnt shown properly ( www.hacktivista.tk or http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ ) i think that something isnt redirecting properly; could someone help me to debug that?
[00:27] <Dacvak> I saw a generic boot option
[00:27] <hbekel> Lunis: that's how it works in openbox, and with devilspie too afaik
[00:27] <Dacvak> Just "title Windows 95/98/NT/2000"
[00:27] <Dacvak> Will that work?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  yes.. thats the example...
[00:27] <Dacvak> And I just uncomment that and it should work?
[00:28] <^Soup^> hello
[00:28] <Qu4R0w> i just install xp +ubuntu + suse..at last,i install suse then it take over ubuntu grub.how can i make suse boot handled by ubuntu?
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:   No.. thats ONE LINE of the 'entry' for the windows boot stuff.. Looka t the othe rentries.. you have to uncomment several Lines..
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  you need to uncomment that line and a few others following it
[00:28] <Dacvak> Yeah, root, makeactive, chainloader
[00:28] <Lunis> hbekel: well damn, you're right... --class. it just never occurred to me that could be the case. well, as long as i don't run in to this with any other apps, i'm good to go :)
[00:28] <^Soup^> I'm having trouble finding information on implementing a custom booting screen (where the loading bar animates)
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:   Makes sence? :)
[00:29] <Dacvak> But they're all very generic. Is that what it should look like? The Linux ones have uuid's and stuff. The Windows example doesn't have anytghing specific besides (hd0,0)
[00:29] <^Soup^> I have the animation rendered and composited, and i can format it to the required color dept and size
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  yes.. thats becuse it just hands the booting off to windows
[00:29] <Dacvak> Thanks man. Io'
[00:29] <^Soup^> the main thing that's unclear is how many frames will the splash screen support ?
[00:29] <Dacvak> I'mm about to try
[00:30] <Qu4R0w> i have problem with ubuntu and suse..
[00:30] <sebsebseb> !details |  Qu4R0w
[00:30] <Qu4R0w> i just install xp +ubuntu + suse..at last,i install suse then it take over ubuntu grub.how can i make suse boot handled by ubuntu?
[00:30] <hbekel> Lunis: gnome programs usually provide the standard x -geometry option
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. has anyone ever figured out what this 'add to shelf/shelf plugin' does in Gnome-do ?  The docs are... well.. vague..
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  you will have to manually edit the ubuntus menu.lst and add the proper entries for  suse.
[00:31] <sebsebseb> Qu4R0w: triple booting with suse hmm why?   if you have enough RAM you can just virtual machine other distros :)
[00:32] <Qu4R0w> sebsebseb: i wont use virtual OS
[00:32] <sebsebseb> Qu4R0w: why not?
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  time to learn to edit grub menu.lst then
[00:32] <donchriscoe> exit
[00:32] <Lunis> hbekel: i think maximus doesn't pay attention to geometry
[00:32] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: but the default is suse appear 1st before ubuntu grub
[00:33] <hbekel> Lunis: well, that's not well behaved for a wm imho
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  you need to backup your grub menu.lst  in ubuntu,  and  then after installing suse copy its menu.lst over (with a different name) and restore the ubuntu GRUB , and Edit the ubuntu menu.lst using the info from the suse menu.lst
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  dont expect it to be very automated.
[00:33] <Lunis> hbekel: it's a WM-addon built for the netbook remix i think, and probably early in development
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  you could put the suse grub on the suse's partition and chainload it..if you wanted
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  and i THINK if ubuntu is installed last. it Might see/add suse to the ubuntu grub menu
[00:34] <Cerrdor> I upgraded to the 3.5 FF browser and flash will not work
[00:34] <Cerrdor> any thoughts on how to solve this
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> Cerrdor:  upgraded 'how' ?
[00:34] <Cerrdor> synaptic
[00:34] <hbekel> Lunis: never heard of maximus before, but the package desc says "Maximus is a window manager designed to run one application at a time full screen."
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> Cerrdor:  you mean you installed firefox 3.5 then...? you should have 2 'firefox's now. 3.0 and 3.5
[00:35] <jeeves_Moss> afternoon all
[00:35] <hbekel> Lunis: so in that case ignoring -geometry is the right thing to do
[00:35] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: ubuntu installed first but it not add suse to ubuntu grub.i tried it.
[00:35] <Lunis> hbekel: not a good description. i don't think it can actually manage windows o.o
[00:35] <Lunis> hbekel: it runs alongside emerald
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  then you need to manyually add the proper entry for suse.
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  and if ubuntu was installed last - it might of addeded it.. theres also some other tools inthe repos that might find/add other disrtos but ive not tried them
[00:36] <Cerrdor> that is correct
[00:36] <Cerrdor> now how do I get flash to playt
[00:36] <^Soup^> so can anybody point me towards the right direction for custom booting screen animations on Ubuntu 9 ?
[00:36] <^Soup^> i want to import an animated sequence of files
[00:37] <Cerrdor> ^Soup^, go to google and look at usplash
[00:37] <hbekel> Lunis: i see, it's similar to devilspie it seems
[00:37] <^Soup^> Cerrdor ok will do, thank you :)
[00:37] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i think i can configure it now..i take try 1st
[00:37] <kavurt> Qu4R0w,  copy the suse entry in suse menu.lst, and paste to ubuntu menu.lst and reinstall ubuntu grub
[00:37] <StarMatt> Hello
[00:38] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: tq kavurt,let me take try
[00:38] <Cerrdor> any ideas why flash is not working?
[00:38] <kitty_> anyone a powerpc user?
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> I belive there was some command that scanend the system for other OS's  and it might of added them to the menu.lst - but i cant find the command now.
[00:38] <Qu4R0w> Cerrdor: flash on firefox?
[00:39] <Wintervenom> Dr_Willis:  grub-update
[00:39] <Cerrdor> Qu4R0w, yes
[00:39] <Wintervenom> Or "update-grub."  I forget.
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> Wintervenom:  that does not find newly installed OS's that uses the existing  menu.lst last i tried it.
[00:39] <^Soup^> BTW I got 9.04 running with maximum quality @ 1600 x 1200 in openGL mode. its liquid smooth, even on my older X1650 pro video card. not a single crash.
[00:40] <^Soup^> Props to the ubuntu team
[00:40] <^Soup^> I was blown away
[00:40] <Qu4R0w> Cerrdor: have u try apt-cache search pkgname?
[00:40] <Cerrdor> ^Soup^, did you have issues with flash not working after upgrade to Jaunty?
[00:40] <^Soup^> yes
[00:40] <Cerrdor> how did you solve it?
[00:41] <^Soup^> I had to install an updated flash 10 plugin
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. i just discovered  the 'grub-choose-default' tool in synaptic. :)
[00:41] <VilasBoas> HY does any one made the Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Driver, 1.1.0 work on un
[00:41] <^Soup^> for mozilla
[00:41] <VilasBoas> HY does any one made the Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Driver, 1.1.0 work on ubuntu?
[00:41] <^Soup^> its much better. not perfect but its passable
[00:41] <Cerrdor> I did that and now the screen comes up like a place for a video but nothing appears
[00:41] <funkyHat> ninjabox: I will have a go
[00:42] <^Soup^> make sure you dont have 2 versions of flash plugins installed
[00:43] <Cerrdor> yeah I uninstalled flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree and still it wont work
[00:43] <Qu4R0w> Cerrdor: u on jaunty?
[00:43] <EagleScreen> hi
[00:43] <Cerrdor> yes
[00:44] <ninjabox> funkyHat: awesome, want me to paste the output of like.. what happens when I try to run something from mplayer?
[00:44] <ninjabox> funkyHat: i'll pastebin it
[00:44] <EagleScreen> any help to install flashplugin in 8.04.3 'hardy heron' ?
[00:44] <kitty_> VilasBoas, 02:07.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[00:44] <nanotube> !flash | EagleScreen
[00:45] <ryanprior> When I make a Skype test call, the audio played back to me is a low bass thumping sound. Any idea what the cause for that could be?
[00:45] <kitty_> VilasBoas, lspci and copy/paste the line with yours
[00:45] <Lunis> what's XML's mimetype?
[00:45] <ryanprior> The audio streamed to me normally sounds fine, so I'm guessing it is my audip capture that's not working.
[00:45] <Qu4R0w> how can i add suse boot into ubuntu grub??i no longer can boot to suse..
[00:46] <EagleScreen> nanotube: these steps are not valid, it installs flash version 9 and there are a lot of pages that new ask for flash 10, as like as youtube
[00:46] <mrgenericuser> lunis text/xml
[00:46] <ryanprior> More generally, is there a way I can test audio capture to see whether this is a Skype problem?
[00:46] <Lunis> mrgenericuser: thanks :)
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  look at the boot/grub/menu.lst on the suse install you juse need to see what sort of 'entry' it uses in that file for booting suse
[00:46] <nanotube> EagleScreen: in that case... grab the latest flash tar.gz from adobe, extract from it "libflashplayer.so", and stick it into your ~/.mozilla/firefox directory.
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  you dont need to boot to suse. just mount its drive and look at teh file
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  you may want to copy the suse menu.lst to your /boot/grub/menu.lst_FROM_SUSE_FOR_AN_EXAMPLE  file to make it easier to find later. :)
[00:47] <VilasBoas> kitty_:http://paste.ubuntu.com/254282/
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  and backup your esisting  menu.lst  just in case.
[00:48] <ryanprior> when I run Skype on the command line, I get lots of messages saying "ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:1569:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5)"
[00:48] <ryanprior> that is strange because my computer does not have Bluetooth
[00:48] <ryanprior> so getting bluetooth capabilities should not be a problem
[00:48] <kitty_> ok vilasboas what is your problem?
[00:48] <amrac> Bonsoir
[00:49] <VilasBoas> i can't enable my wireless
[00:49] <EagleScreen> nanotube: i have copied it and firefox continue asking for flash, I copied it to ~/.mozilla any more to do?
[00:49] <toldo> French ?
[00:49] <amrac> What is the french channel for Ubuntu?
[00:49] <VilasBoas> i love my ubuntu but i can't use wireless with it
[00:49] <EagleScreen> !fr
[00:49] <amrac> !fr
[00:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fr amrac
[00:50] <amrac> Merci
[00:50] <Cerrdor> EagleScreen, copy it to /.mozilla/firefox/plugins
[00:50] <owen1> i installed ruby1.9 in chroot (--prefix=/opt/ruby19) and need to add /opt/ruby19 to $PATH. where should i locate .bashrc ?
[00:50] <toldo> Merci pour l'nfos
[00:50] <Cerrdor> if plugins does not exist create it
[00:50] <kitty_> ok vilasboas can you goto a root term or sudo "iwconfig" and see if it lists your wirelesscard?
[00:50] <EagleScreen> must i create that unexistent folder? Cerrdor
[00:50] <Cerrdor> yes
[00:51] <zvonkorp> does anyone know of a social-networking chart creator, or anything similar - for linking people together on a display, with 3 central sluts that fucked multiple people
[00:51] <TheMusicGuy> What is the best way to automatically and redundantly make backups of my /home directory to a local hard drive?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  .bashrc is in th eusers home dir. theres also other places the path can be defined. .profile or .bash_profile
[00:51] <Cerrdor> zvonkorp, that is histerical LOL
[00:51] <^Soup^> btw I made this today, and I want to implement it as a bootup/splash screen on my setup
[00:52] <^Soup^> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBSRPWpYcaU
[00:52] <VilasBoas> Kitty_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/254284/
[00:52] <^Soup^> comments appreciated!
[00:52] <FloodBot1> ^Soup^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <^Soup^> tell me what you think!
[00:52] <EagleScreen> Firefox is still asking for flash, any other package to install or anything to do? Cerrdor, nanotube ?
[00:52] <bazhang> ^Soup^, dont paste that here
[00:52] <Cerrdor> EagleScreen, you restarted FF?
[00:52] <enthdegree> Whenever I open a fullscreen game, such as Battle for Wesnoth or something, my system tray applications (possibly all of my background apps, too?) terminate. Crunchbang 9.04, 2gb ram. When I run gnome-do in the terminal it outputs 'Thanks for Playing' right before it terminates. I have a hunch the problem has to do with openbox, but I'm not sure, can't back it up. Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance!
[00:52] <^Soup^> its an animated 3d logo of Ubuntu
[00:52] <owen1> Dr_Willis: thanks, where is eusers home dir? my /home is empty
[00:52] <EagleScreen> Cerrdor: yes, ofcourse
[00:52] <^Soup^> ...
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  i see path getting set in .profile
[00:52] <bazhang> ^Soup^, #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[00:52] <Cerrdor> EagleScreen, I am having the same issue in Jaunty
[00:52] <kitty_> VilasBoas, ok that looks normal, now can you do a "iwlist eth1 scan" and see which networks are available, or do you have a specific network you want to connect to?
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  if your home is empty - then you got bigger issues then the PATH
[00:53] <bazhang> enthdegree, #crunchbang
[00:53] <Cerrdor> maybe its a firefox thing
[00:53] <^Soup^> oh this is strictly tech support ?
[00:53] <bazhang> yes
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> owen1:   every user you make should have a dir in /home/
[00:53] <^Soup^> ok my bad :)
[00:53] <nanotube> EagleScreen: sorry, i mean, ~/.mozilla/plugins directory. (create plugins dir if doesn't exist)
[00:53] <owen1> Dr_Willis: it's a chroot folder. got no users.
[00:53] <EagleScreen> Cerrdor: jauntu has flash 10 packaged in jaunty-updates
[00:53] <nanotube> EagleScreen: and restart firefox
[00:53] <owen1> Dr_Willis: chroot is a way to create an OS in a folder.
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  then look in the  home directory on the  drive. that may or may not be /home  it might be  somewherer else inthe path.
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  theres more to chroot then that. :)
[00:54] <TheMusicGuy> What automatic (i.e. time-triggered) backup software is recommended for Ubuntu?
[00:54] <owen1> Dr_Willis: i have /home but it's emtpy..not sure how to addd stuff to PATH without it..
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  you could just 'export PATH=$PATH:/new/path/to/add ' for a one time export
[00:54] <VilasBoas> Kitty_: root@Mithus:/# iwlist eth1 scan
[00:54] <VilasBoas> eth1      No scan results
[00:54] <nanotube> TheMusicGuy: rsnapshot
[00:54] <owen1> Dr_Willis: ok. i'll try it
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  what are you even trying to do with all this chroot song and dance?
[00:55] <kitty_> you may have to do it several times, mine doesn't respond till you give it the request the first time then it'll start polling the info
[00:55] <owen1> Dr_Willis: trying to test ruby 1.9
[00:55] <_MrsApple_> is it ok to download flash player with ubuntu?
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> owen1:   err.. ok.. that sems a little over kill.. but have fun
[00:55] <TheMusicGuy> nanotube: I can't back up my entire filesystem because my backup drive is smaller than my primary partition
[00:55] <VilasBoas> ok i will restart my pc i get rigth back
[00:56] <kitty_> no no no don't do that
[00:56] <owen1> Dr_Willis: i spent the weekend on trying to have 1.8 side by side with 1.9 ... PAIN
[00:56] <TheMusicGuy> nanotube: I only have enough room to backup certain "critical directories"
[00:57] <EagleScreen> nanotube, Cerrdor: it is still asking for flash player in youtube
[00:57] <nanotube> EagleScreen: did you place libflashplayer.so into ~/.mozilla/plugins (where ~ means your home dir)
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  you are messing with chroot when you dident even know how to set teh PATH. thats ...err.. sort of like  Swimming the english channel befor you can dogpaddle...
[00:58] <EagleScreen> yes, nanotube, and restarted firefox
[00:58] <nanotube> TheMusicGuy: you can tell rsnapshot exactly what directories to backup.
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  its very likely theres some easier way to have them both side by side.. But ive never messed with ruby. so good luck
[00:58] <owen1> Dr_Willis: thanks
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  i know i have several versions of python installed at the same time.
[00:59] <TheMusicGuy> nanotube: oh. I thought it was only for snapshots of whole filesystems...
[00:59] <nanotube> TheMusicGuy: see this brief rsnapshot tutorial, if you're curious: http://wiki.df.dreamhosters.com/wiki/Ubuntu_Chronicles_Intrepid#Backups
[00:59] <nanotube> TheMusicGuy: no, it will take a snapshot of exactly what you tell it to, and no more :)
[00:59] <EagleScreen> anyone knows how to install flashplugin 10 in 8.04 'hardy' ?
[00:59] <nanotube> EagleScreen: hrm, weird... don't know why it didn't work...
[01:00] <owen1> Dr_Willis: i tried export path, but i think it's being added to the host and not to the chroot
[01:00] <purplenurple> anyone here familiar w/ dns - ispconfig ... I've got my dns setup however domain.com redirects to mail.domain.com
[01:00] <purplenurple> http://pastebin.com/d6f0c06d9
[01:00] <owen1> i did this (inside chroot):export PATH=$PATH:/opt/ruby19/
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  then you are using chroot wrong.
[01:01] <owen1> Dr_Willis: do u think i should do export PATH=$PATH:/var/chroot/opt/ruby19/
[01:01] <kitty_> ok VilasBoas you're back ?
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  when you 'chroot' your / changes to the  dir you chrooted to.
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  I dont even know why you are using chroot in all this.
[01:02] <VilasBoas> kitty_:
[01:02] <VilasBoas> hy
[01:02] <owen1> Dr_Willis: someone in #rubyonrails told me to do it.
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  perhaps go bug them some more.. I think theres some fundamnetal problems going on with this method.
[01:02] <VilasBoas> kitty_: Hy i was checking if my wireless was enable on the star off the pc
[01:02] <platius> EagleScreen; http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-10-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html  check here
[01:02] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: try look this..i trying add OpenSUSE http://paste.ubuntu.com/254287/
[01:03] <owen1> Dr_Willis: ok. how to remove the chroot?
[01:03] <EagleScreen> thanks platius
[01:03] <owen1> Dr_Willis: maybe a vm will be easier
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  one normally can 'chroot jail' a specific service. or chroots over to  a installed system to run stuff
[01:03] <kitty_> good that would have been a step but you can check that from your dmesg output
[01:03] <platius> yw
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  just close the terminal window you chrooted in...
[01:03] <kitty_> VilasBoas, can you do that iwlist eth1 scan ?
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  its not a perment thing.. its just for 1 shell
[01:04] <owen1> Dr_Willis: ? no, i think u'r confusing it with something else. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  first of all - add YOUR custom entrys to the end of that file.. past the   ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[01:04] <VilasBoas> kitty_: eth1      No scan results
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> line- or they WILL get overwritten
[01:04] <kitty_> did you try it again after a few seconds?
[01:04] <kkkyle> anyone know anything about john the ripper?
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  Iuse chroot all the time to boot a live cd. and 'chroot' into the  'installed' system to then fix things.
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  its also possible to 'chroot jail' specific services for security.
[01:06] <kitty_> VilasBoas, did you try the command a second time after a few seconds?
[01:06] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: my english is bad..what past mean??before/after?
[01:06] <TheMusicGuy> What are the UUID=xxxxxxxxx  strings in /etc/fstab, and (how) can they be used to make sure certain external storage devices always get mounted to a certain directory, regardless of what device file the drive appears in?
[01:06] <VilasBoas> kitty_: yes 5 times
[01:06] <kitty_> all no responses?
[01:06] <VilasBoas> the same resolte
[01:06] <VilasBoas> no
[01:06] <kitty_> are there any wireless networks in your area?
[01:06] <enthdegree> Whenever I open a fullscreen game, such as Battle for Wesnoth or something, my system tray applications (possibly all of my background apps, too?) terminate. Crunchbang 9.04, 2gb ram. When I run gnome-do in the terminal it outputs 'Thanks for Playing' right before it terminates. I have a hunch the problem has to do with openbox, but I'm not sure, can't back it up. Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance! Nobody in the
[01:06] <enthdegree> crunchbang channel says anything.
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  at the end of the file.. you need to put your changes not where you have them now.
[01:07] <kitty_> what model computer is this in, gateway ?
[01:07] <bazhang> enthdegree, that is the proper channel nonetheless, we dont support crunchbang here
[01:07] <VilasBoas> yes there are
[01:07] <spo> usermod does not have something to modify the "real name" of a user ?   there is not a console program to change the real name?
[01:07] <kitty_> can you use this card from windows or other operating systems?
[01:07] <enthdegree> Ok. Thanks anyway. /c:
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  add your suse entry after the windows entry.
[01:08] <hbekel> spo: man 5 passwd
[01:08] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: owh..i think it under ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[01:08] <VilasBoas> yes i had dual boot for some time to use the wireless
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  it goes past that line..yes...   anything above that line  can be 'modified' by the system. and  changed by the system. Custom changes to at the end.
[01:09] <thelostfaith> Anyone ever stream/dj?
[01:09] <kitty_> have you tried connecting to the network manually using iwconfig?
[01:09] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: owh..please see=http://paste.ubuntu.com/254292/
[01:10] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i added it after windows
[01:10] <EagleScreen> any way ot install flashplugin 10 in 8.04 the script in http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-10-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html didn't do it
[01:10] <matt_keys> I'm running virt-manager locally to connect to kvm host remotely via ssh. When I point it to the iso, either locally or remotely, it has a problem finding it
[01:10] <VilasBoas> not with iwconfig only with gnu-network-manager
[01:10] <matt_keys> anybody have an idea how to get around this?
[01:10] <EagleScreen> Konqueror cannot see the plugin neither
[01:10] <kitty_> well try iwconfig, do you know your network settings?
[01:11] <spo> hbekel, surely, but i cannot change my user account information by editing the passwd file
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  try it and see I guess . :)
[01:11] <VilasBoas> ok thanks
[01:11] <kitty_> if you don't have a encrypted network, you can just "iwconfig eth1 essid "whatever" nick "ubuntu""
[01:11] <hbekel> spo: "user name or comment field" is not what you want?
[01:11] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: i restart*
[01:11] <VilasBoas> it's encryped
[01:11] <kitty_> what type?/
[01:12] <VilasBoas> i have to change the settings tomorow
[01:12] <matt_keys> is this the right channel for that question? or is there a #ubuntu-server?
[01:12] <spo> hbekel, yes, but can i actually just edit my passwd file? i thought i could not directly do that
[01:12] <hbekel> spo: it's just a file
[01:12] <VilasBoas> kitty_: thanks for yor help tomorow i will try it
[01:12] <kitty_> anyways, if you read the man iwconfig you can figure out how to setup yournetwork manually from iwconfig
[01:12] <JoshStrobl> can anyone help me out with something?
[01:12] <JoshStrobl> im a ubuntu noob
[01:13] <hbekel> spo: you can edit (and screw up) any config file if you decide to do so :)
[01:13] <sebsebseb> !ask |  JoshStrobl
[01:13] <JoshStrobl> 0_0 for some reason videos on firefox won't play on audio
[01:13] <sebsebseb> !details |  JoshStrobl
[01:13] <hbekel> spo: in this case i think you can't miss anything up, but be sure to keep the : delimiters intact
[01:13] <ryanprior> I need help setting up Skype. When I make a test call, the sound that is played back to me is a low bass thrumming, suggesting that it's not reading my microphone correctly. However, if I turn my mic volume up, I can hear myself when I speak, so I know my microphone works. Can anyone help me?
[01:13] <matt_keys> I'm running virt-manager locally to connect to kvm host remotely via ssh. When I point it to the iso, either locally or remotely, it has a problem finding it. Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong or a way around this?
[01:13] <TheMusicGuy> what type of filesystem would be recommended for storing backups of files? the same type of filsystem that the original files were on?
[01:13] <sebsebseb> JoshStrobl: Do you have sound otherwise?  log in sound,  etc
[01:14] <hbekel> spo: or keep looking for an ubuntu way to do it
[01:14] <spo> what is a console command that will show my user information... a query command
[01:14] <JoshStrobl> I have a problem playing audio on Firefox. I am using Ubuntu 9.04. When I try to listen to audio on any online video, no sound works yet audio on conference calls on Skype do. What should I do?
[01:14] <matt_keys> JoshStrobl: try "alsa force-reload" from the command line
[01:14] <Cerrdor> how do I completely remove shiretoko and reinstall FF3.0
[01:15] <JoshStrobl> ok one sec
[01:15] <matt_keys> JoshStrobl: probably gotta be sudo for that
[01:15] <spo> is there a whois command for console or osmething that will display the home phone number of a user on my system?
[01:16] <JoshStrobl> it works!
[01:16] <JoshStrobl> you are my savior!
[01:16] <JoshStrobl> thanks
[01:16] <JoshStrobl> (party)
[01:16] <matt_keys> no prob :)
[01:16] <matt_keys> spo: finger, if your users have a .profile file
[01:16] <JoshStrobl> i'm glad i switched to Ubuntu
[01:16] <JoshStrobl> I used to use Vista(ugh)
[01:16] <baccenfutter> spo: you could cat /etc/passwd | grep $USER | cut -d ":" -f 4
[01:17] <sebsebseb> JoshStrobl: before you go
[01:17] <matt_keys> JoshStrobl: I still dual boot both on my laptop
[01:17] <JoshStrobl> anyone know how to convert m4p to mp3 in Ubuntu
[01:17] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: how did you get calls working in Skype? I'm trying to do that myself.
[01:17] <sebsebseb> JoshStrobl: sometimes one proccess takes over your sound,  and that's where the command comes in
[01:17] <JoshStrobl> what do you mean ryan? like audio or video?
[01:17] <sebsebseb> JoshStrobl: well I should say sometimes it might happen
[01:17] <c4pt> hi i need some help
[01:17] <baccenfutter> spo: try playing with the last digit in the line
[01:17] <hbekel> spo: no idea, i never cared for those infos myself
[01:17] <baccenfutter> spo: try 4 or 5
[01:17] <baccenfutter> or 3
[01:18] <JoshStrobl> ryan> PM Me
[01:18] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: When I make a Skype test call, the audio it plays back to me is this low bass thrumming.
[01:18] <sebsebseb> !ask  |  c4pt
[01:18] <c4pt> i am trying to setup a serial console with just two computers connected with a crossover ethernet cable i have no db9 or db25 ports on this computer
[01:18] <spo> bacc, i used finger
[01:18] <sebsebseb> !details |  c4pt
[01:18] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: It doesn't play back my voice.
[01:18] <JoshStrobl> on what Echo123?
[01:18] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: correct
[01:18] <JoshStrobl> hmm, one sec
[01:18] <JoshStrobl> im gonna look at my Skype config
[01:19] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: perhaps you can call me and see if you can hear my voice?
[01:19] <JoshStrobl> sure
[01:19] <JoshStrobl> my username on Skype is the same on here
[01:19] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: or if you can find anything interesting in your skype config, that would be nice too.
[01:19] <JoshStrobl> so add me :)
[01:19] <matt_keys> ok back to mine...
[01:19] <JoshStrobl> lol one sec i have like a trillion things going to :P
[01:19] <matt_keys> I'm running virt-manager locally to connect to kvm host remotely via ssh. When I point it to the iso, either locally or remotely, it has a problem finding it. Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong or a way around this?
[01:19] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: cant with error=error 13 : invalid or unsupported executable format
[01:20] <JoshStrobl> virtual manager a .iso reader?
[01:20] <matt_keys> virt-manager is a virtual guest manager
[01:20] <JoshStrobl> hmm
[01:21] <JoshStrobl> then i have no idea
[01:21] <c4pt> is it possible to use a crossover ethernet cable with a serial console at boot if so how?
[01:22] <hbekel> spo: the SEE ALSO of man finger reveals chfn - change real user name and information
[01:22] <matt_keys> maybe there's a ubuntu-server channel
[01:22] <JoshStrobl> ryan, you still here buddy?
[01:22] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: I am.
[01:22] <JoshStrobl> you add me on skype?
[01:22] <ryanprior> I did.
[01:22] <JoshStrobl> send a pm
[01:22] <spo> thanks
[01:22] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: It shows you as offline.
[01:22] <apoleo12> Ok I really hate coming in here with grub problem Im having, I read and reread doc help on line to restore grub. but NOthing seem to cure as I still get a reboot-cycle.. whatever that is called
[01:22] <JoshStrobl> one sec
[01:23] <JoshStrobl> ryan> respond on skype
[01:24] <purplenurple> apoleo12, did you try resetting your grub install w/ the live cd?
[01:24] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: did you get my responses?
[01:24] <apoleo12> I did.... but its comes back to the same thing
[01:24] <JoshStrobl> ryan> to my questions?
[01:24] <ryanprior> correct
[01:24] <JoshStrobl> negative
[01:24] <apoleo12> Im not too sure if I have dome soemthing wrong...?
[01:24] <c4pt> ???
[01:25] <JoshStrobl> it says you went offline
[01:25] <ryanprior> JoshStrobl: well, my audio system totally took a crap and Skype crashed, so I'm going to try rebooting for great justice.
[01:25] <JoshStrobl> wait
[01:25] <JoshStrobl> ugh
[01:25] <purplenurple> apelgate, are you just booting ubuntu... how many hd's do you have?
[01:26] <JoshStrobl> hey when I open up a .tar.bz2 where is the installer for the software? (noobish question I know) but im used to windows
[01:26] <spo> is user2 part of group user2 even though  my /etc/group file says  user2:x:1002:      (without user2 being behind the last :)
[01:27] <apoleo12> purple: that question must be for me: I have three harddrives  and disk0: null disk1: Windows  disk2 : ubuntu
[01:27] <purplenurple> apoleo12, , are you just booting ubuntu... how many hd's do you have?
[01:27] <purplenurple> yeah, i hit the wrong name
[01:28] <c4pt> is it possible to use a firewire to firewire connection for a serial console?
[01:29] <c4pt> or an ethernet crossover cable for a serial console?
[01:29] <purplenurple> apoleo12, it is a very simple process - boot the live cd and follow this documentation:
[01:29] <purplenurple> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[01:29] <apoleo12> I know it should be as simple as I would have had fixed by now but since for days! and recently cant get past grub
[01:30] <apoleo12> purple: AND that first post in that thread I did exactly that at no avail!!!
[01:31] <````bulldogg> I know this is not a ubuntu question but how do hide my ip address when I connect to irc
[01:31] <````bulldogg> with xchat
[01:31] <Checkmate91> Using Hardy and Evolution does not have a spell check dictionary loaded.  What package am I missing?
[01:31] <test34> How can I have the stay-on-top setting be saved for a specific application's window? (when I close it, it looses this setting)
[01:32] <danc3> Checkmate91: maybe 'aspell' ?
[01:32] <apoleo12> Im not real to sure if the numbers hd2,4 or hd 2,0 make a difference
[01:32] <Checkmate91> Using Hardy and Evolution does not have a spell check dictionary loaded.  What package am I missing?danc3: I am missing that one
[01:33] <Checkmate91> danc3: I am missing that one
[01:33] <danc3> Checkmate91: well..............
[01:34] <Checkmate91> danc3: Installing now...
[01:34] <u22> I'm running hardy heron, because my video card wont work with jaunty. Is there any way to acquire the latest version of programs like transmission and gparted, without upgrading ubuntu?
[01:34] <Pici> ````bulldogg: ask in #freenode
[01:34] <````bulldogg> thanks
[01:35] <Checkmate91> danc3: Still does not show on the list of spell checkers from within Evolution
[01:35] <danc3> Checkmate91: I dunno then.  I suggest using Thunderbird for email, it's better anyway.
[01:36] <Checkmate91> danc3: tried than many times and always come back to evo
[01:36] <danc3> Checkmate91: <shrug>
[01:36] <woods> ok everything works good in UNR, except of the desktop interface
[01:36] <woods> it works with like 0.1 FPS
[01:37] <woods> in the live disk it worked flawlessly
[01:39] <Checkmate91> danc3: my whole openoffice is not spell checking all of a sudden
[01:39] <Checkmate91> WTF?
[01:39] <sebsebseb> !langauge |  Checkmate91
[01:39] <sebsebseb> !caps |  Checkmate91
[01:40] <danc3> Checkmate91: I have no idea
[01:40] <crzedmonk> hi
[01:40] <sebsebseb> crzedmonk: hi
[01:40] <crzedmonk> I have a question: I installed unrar but I am still not able to unpackage rar files
[01:40] <th0r> u22: sometimes the program's homepage will have a link for a ppa or a deb of the latest revision.
[01:40] <th0r> u22: and for gparted I use the live cd from their homepage
[01:40] <danc3> Checkmate91: do you *really* need a spell checker?
[01:40] <woods> it is becoming serious
[01:41] <woods> i used to play a game with 10FPS
[01:41] <woods> and it is now below 1 fps
[01:41] <Checkmate91> danc3: what kind of question is that....why not ask, do you really "need" a computer?
[01:41] <apoleo12> hey, I want to show you that what I have done... http://paste.ubuntu.com/254304/
[01:41] <danc3> Checkmate91: it's a valid question.  Can you not spell without a spell-checker?
[01:42] <apoleo12> and Im going to reboot now and I garurantee that it wont succeed
[01:42] <danc3> apoleo12: ok
[01:42] <woods> what can i do?
[01:42] <cfedde> danc3: many of us can't
[01:42] <crzedmonk> also flash will not work
[01:42] <crzedmonk> :(
[01:42] <danc3> cfedde: shoulda stayed in school, I guess.
[01:42] <Stormx2> danc3, a spell checker in a word processor is a reasonable expectation.
[01:42] <Checkmate91> danc3: I can compute without a computer.  have you uninstalled your spell checker?
[01:42] <crzedmonk> these are my only two issues
[01:42] <cfedde> danc3: thanks for your recomendation.
[01:43] <danc3> Checkmate91: yes, no spell checkers installed here.
[01:43] <Checkmate91> danc3: doubtful but I would think this is a reasonable request as Stormx2 has also indicated
[01:43] <danc3> Checkmate91: if you say so.  I don't need one myself.  <shrug>
[01:44] <cfedde> we'll all aspire to live up to your expectations.
[01:44] <Stormx2> danc3, would you like a medal?
[01:44] <danc3> Stormx2: no, why would I want a medal?
[01:44] <danc3> I have plenty of medals already.
[01:45] <cfedde> A1 double plus spelling master.
[01:45] <JoshStrobl> hey matt you here buddy?
[01:45] <danc3> cfedde: Indeed, I am.
[01:45] <IdleOne> !ot
[01:46] <Stormx2> cfedde, if he's wearing them, he'd need to pass them down. There's no way I can see all the way to the top of his horse.
[01:46] <Bitmess> How can I change the resolution for GDM?
[01:48] <lde> $ gnome-terminal
[01:48] <lde> Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.
[01:48] <Checkmate91> danc3: the answer to my question is.... myspell
[01:49] <lde> It works if I run gnome-settings-daemon, though not when I run it from ~/.xsessionrc
[01:49] <Qu4R0w> i edit my menu.lst to add suse..but i got error when i trying to boot to suse=error in service module..pease see my menu.lst=http://paste.ubuntu.com/254306/
[01:49] <lde> Any ideas?
[01:51] <JoshStrobl> Youtube audio + Ubuntu=fail
[01:52] <JoshStrobl> Youtube video w/out audio + Ubuntu=success
[01:52] <JoshStrobl> ugh I hate the fact I can't listen to audio from online videos
[01:52] <jumbers> How does Ubuntu store user passwords? Salted MD5?
[01:53] <JoshStrobl> anyone care to help with the audio issue I am having?
[01:53] <biovore> jumbers: default is md5
[01:53] <JoshStrobl> (can't hear youtube or online video audio)
[01:53] <jumbers> biovore: Do you happen to know if it's salted?
[01:53] <crzedmonk> is there another prram for unraring than unrar
[01:53] <crzedmonk> cause it will not work
[01:53] <crzedmonk> :(
[01:53] <JoshStrobl> LOL a lil ironic eh?
[01:53] <biovore> jumbers: I think they are.. not 100$ sure though..
[01:53] <Qu4R0w> JoshStrobl: maybe with ur flash*
[01:54] <JoshStrobl> Qu> anything i can do to fix it?
[01:54] <biovore> JoshStrobl: If you installed flash, it probably setup to use OSS, which means it can't get access to the sound card..
[01:54] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: It's probably a flash issue. What's your current version
[01:54] <JoshStrobl> 9.04
[01:54] <JoshStrobl> newest version
[01:55] <kitche> biovore: considering that flash does not use OSS anymore by default
[01:55] <jumbers> No, Flash version
[01:55] <JoshStrobl> jumbers, i dont know
[01:55] <biovore> kitche: rgr,, should all be alsa by default..
[01:55] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html
[01:56] <Adremelech|Lapto> JoshStrobl, open firefox and type about:plugins
[01:56] <JoshStrobl> btw cr> go to Applications> Add/Remove Applications> type in search RAR
[01:56] <JoshStrobl> download the application named RAR
[01:56] <apoleo12> same problem
[01:56] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: What version number does that tell you
[01:56] <Bitmess> How do I change the screen resolution for gdm?
[01:57] <jumbers> Bitmess: System > Preferences > Display
[01:57] <bruenig> !framebuffer | Bitmess
[01:57] <woods> ok, what is the driver needed by Acer Aspire One netbook?
[01:57] <bruenig> giggle
[01:57] <JoshStrobl> it aint telling me mine but its saying the latest Linux Flash player is <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:58] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: It says Your Player Version:
[01:58] <Bitmess> jumpers: Nah, that changes the resolution for gnome only
[01:58] <GuidMorrow> what the? this xchat version is newer than expected...
[01:58] <JoshStrobl> jumbers> where 0_0?
[01:58] <Adremelech|Lapto> JoshStrobl, in about:plugins it will tell you your current flash version
[01:58] <JoshStrobl> i am having problems with audio not video btw
[01:58] <Bitmess> jumbers: Nah, that changes the resolution for gnome only
[01:58] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: In the flash box, above where it says the operating system and such
[01:59] <GuidMorrow> I have xchat 2.8.6, this reminds me how do I set that each time CTCP VERSION is called?
[01:59] <jumbers> Bitmess: You said gdm, that's what gnome is
[02:00] <edbian> jumbers: Bitmess GDM = gnome display manager.  It is only part of gnome.
[02:00] <JoshStrobl> ah
[02:00] <Bitmess> jumbers:What ever the login screen is for Gnome has the wrong resolution
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> GDM handles the login  normally Bitmess
[02:00] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: So what is the version number it says
[02:00] <JoshStrobl> Your Player Version: WIN 9,0,999,0 Debug Player: No Operation System: Windows XP Video Capable: Yes, Audio Capable: Yes, Local File I/o Enabled: Yes
[02:01] <edbian> Dr_Willis: How do you change the resolution of the login screen?
[02:01] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: Windows...?
[02:01] <MadGirl> i guess Windows is wrong
[02:01] <Bitmess> Dr_Willis Cool, how do I change the screen resolution of GDM?
[02:01] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: Are you using Ubuntu?
[02:01] <JoshStrobl> yes
[02:01] <jumbers> Well that's not good
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  the users can have their own settings also. so it will change to that.. Its possible you need to tweak the xorg.conf to set the default/initial res. or it might be in the  gdm.conf file/settings
[02:01] <apoleo12> The command grub-install and others in grub config is no sucess...
[02:01] <jumbers> Upgrade your flash player then
[02:01] <JoshStrobl> I am right now
[02:01] <kosmic> cant uninstall totem!
[02:01] <apoleo12> Are*
[02:01] <kosmic> why!?
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> ive never had to really mess with gdm config in ages.
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  theres probery a dozen forum threads on the topic. :)  i see this quesiton asked about once a week.
[02:02] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: Install adobe-flashplugin
[02:02] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[02:02] <apoleo12> hey Dr_willis
[02:02] <edbian> Dr_Willis: Thanks!  I was asking for the benefit of Bitmess
[02:03] <sKuvy[tss]> does anyone knows how to run Pangya on ubuntu?
[02:03] <trakcyia> My volume reaches only 50% of its capability when all my volume controls (PCM, Master, Pulse) are 100%. This only effects the headphone output
[02:03] <Bitmess> The only answers I see refer to editing the xorg.conf . My xorg.conf is pretty much blank/
[02:03] <JoshStrobl> Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:03] <JoshStrobl> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:03] <JoshStrobl> is only available from another source
[02:03] <sKuvy> does anyone knows how to run Pangya on ubuntu?  im trying with virtualbox, but getting an error
[02:04] <JoshStrobl> where is the Download folder for stuff from Firefox?
[02:04] <amador> alguien sabe como mejorar el amsn
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> Hello apoleo12  - I leave for work in 30 min. :) so cant hang out all night. ;P
[02:04] <Adremelech|Lapto> JoshStrobl, default is Desktop
[02:04] <edbian> Bitmess: Yeah.  You can safely edit it.  The x server probes your video card and monitor to decide what resolutions should be available.  If you add some to xorg.conf they will also be available
[02:04] <JohnCDI> anyone know anything about xbtit or where i could find some decent documentation?
[02:04] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: Pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:04] <apoleo12> I understand Dr_willis... Im still having grub problem! :(
[02:04] <apoleo12> no documentation seem helping unfortunately as it should!
[02:04] <Bitmess> edbian:Thanks, finally an intelligent answer. :)
[02:05] <apoleo12> I think I might be overlooking something very small?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  this is when it pays to just go read and reread the grub docs at the grub homepage and other guides.. and play with it.
[02:05] <Adremelech|Lapto> isnt the flash plugin called flashplugin-nonfree?
[02:05] <jumbers> Adremelech|Lapto: There's a few
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  it canbe hard to remote-troubleshoot. just so many variables.
[02:05] <apoleo12> thats an all day thing... but the question come to mind... will I risk anything to loose?
[02:06] <Adremelech|Lapto> what does adobe-flashplugin install?
[02:06] <apoleo12> yeah I realized that but doing at best is great ;)
[02:06] <Adremelech|Lapto> or is it just an alias to flashplugin-nonfree
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  i spent a few hrs one day sitting down and reading/learning about grub. Its got some amazing features..
[02:06] <edbian> Adremelech|Lapto: Look at the packages in synaptic.  flashplugin-nonfree installs adobe flash 10
[02:06] <jumbers> Lemme check. I might have downloaded that package from Adobe actually.
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  of course 'grub2' is to be used in the next release. :) so i will have to relearn it.
[02:06] <edbian> Adremelech|Lapto: And so do a couple other packages
[02:07] <sKuvy> does anyone knows how to run Pangya on ubuntu?  im trying with virtualbox, but getting an error
[02:07] <apoleo12> dr_willis: ok so I have yet to lose anything right?
[02:07] <woods> where can i find a ubuntu driver for "mobile intel 945gm"
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  you got some critical data you are worried about? Use a live cd.. back it up somewhere.
[02:08] <apoleo12> someone here said that having three harddrives that grub wont look for others.. or something like that
[02:08] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: Did you put it in a pastebin?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> !intel | woods
[02:08] <woods> oki
[02:08] <papabear> uhu
[02:08] <jumbers> !pastebin | JoshStrobl
[02:08] <JoshStrobl> jumbers>im waiting for you to accept the source.list
[02:08] <apoleo12> Nothing too critial... only been using linux for a few weeks... and will continue doing so! :P
[02:08] <edbian> apoleo12: It depends what's in your menu.lst  (hd0) is HDD 1  (hd1) is HDD2
[02:09] <edbian> apelgate: etc etc.  Grub will find your harddrives.
[02:09] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: I don't accept DCC files, use the pastebin
[02:09] <JoshStrobl> ugh forget it
[02:09] <apoleo12> so those numbers is no harm to configure to get it working huh? as if its like pointing to the right "person"?
[02:09] <jumbers> ubottu said exactly what to do
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  you can change those #'s all about. it wont hurt yourfiles - no..
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  you could play with ubuntu and grub in a virtualbox machine/session for total safey :)
[02:10] <apoleo12> can I get rid of grub once I get it working? :P
[02:10] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: All you have to do is paste it and give me the link
[02:10] <apoleo12> I cant because I dont have any of those programs anyway right now anyway
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  you dont get 'rid' of it once you get it working.. that makes nos ence
[02:11] <edbian> apoleo12: You need a boot loader or your OS won't start.  (If you could get rid of it why would you bother fixing it?)
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  if you want a differtn bootloader you install a differnt one to the mbr. :)
[02:11] <Qu4R0w> how can i mount another ext3 partition?
[02:11] <s_> can anyone help me install a distro onto a currently mounted/installed distro in terminal?
[02:11]  * Dr_Willis waits for ssomeone to chime in about how the bootloader dosent need to be on the MBR....
[02:11] <apoleo12> ok like grub to lilo? wont be able to get rid of grub after lilo?
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  lilo overwrites the mbr.. and thus overwrites grub
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  same for the windows bootloader.
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  you got ONE bootloader on the MBR. you can have others on the partitions boot sector also. but thats not as common
[02:12] <edbian> apoleo12: You need a boot loader.  The boot loader sits (partly) in the MBR.  Grub is a boot loader, Lilo is a boot loader, the Windows boot loader is a boot loader.  If you can start an OS you have a boot loader.
[02:12] <apoleo12> Ok now I think Im getting somewhere... because.. windows has it own bootloader and obviously that i grub-install'ed and lost the windows bootloader...
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  lilo is older and special in that it sits totally (i think) on the MBR. grub uses extra files (menu.lst and others) to work.
[02:13] <JoshStrobl> i installed flash player 10 0_0 audio for videos still don't work
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  thats how it works.. grub can boot windows  (chain boot)
[02:13] <duiu> How do I make rsync exclude all files EXCEPT mp3/jpg/txt? Rather than just exclude certain ones manually.
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  im not even sure what your ORIGINAL problem is any more
[02:13] <edbian> apoleo12: That's correct.
[02:13] <apoleo12> Me too!!!
[02:13] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: Did you install adobe-flashplayer?
[02:13] <JoshStrobl> yes
[02:13] <apoleo12> but well I appreciate your help tho
[02:13] <unop> duiu, include just those extensions?   see the rsync manpage
[02:13] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: I thought you didn't have the package
[02:14] <jamieleshaw> To: Any IRC Person that was online the other night: I finally figured out percentage
[02:14] <apoleo12> dr_willis: even tho the computer seem keep rebooting itself when it touches groub
[02:14] <JoshStrobl> jumbers> i installed the package just barely
[02:14] <apoleo12> now thats is a new orginal problem I guess
[02:14] <s_> can anyone help me override a parition wtih a new distro?
[02:14] <JoshStrobl> using the install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[02:14] <jamieleshaw> dr_willis: I figured percentage.
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  if your grub menu.lst is wrong for whatever you are trying  to boot. it fails to boot.. thus reboots.
[02:14] <edbian> !don'tzap
[02:14] <edbian> !dontzap
[02:14] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: What browser? And did you restart the browser?
[02:14] <JoshStrobl> Firefox and yes
[02:14] <apoleo12> uhm, so its the menu.lst then?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> s_:  just tell the installer to format them.. they are erased then.
[02:15] <apoleo12> ya can say maybe heh
[02:15] <jumbers> Go back to the version check page and see what it says
[02:15] <kevdog> When do I need to use the exec {} command with find?  Is it necessary in all cases?  Also confused about use of xargs statement
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  if your grub menu.lst is wrong for whatever you are trying  to boot. it fails to boot.. thus reboots.
[02:15] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html
[02:15] <apoleo12> ok
[02:15] <s_> Dr_Willis: I wish this distro had an installer script ;/
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  what else would you expect it to do?
[02:15] <jamieleshaw> !gcalc
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> s_:  i dont even know what you are trying to install...
[02:15] <JoshStrobl> wtf it still says the same thing
[02:15] <bonez46> I am trying to figure out why the laser jet printer I have enabled and working fine and shared.. on my ubuntu box.. running vbox for a win xp host.. is not browseable or viewed from XP when I attempt to add it to my printers...
[02:15] <JoshStrobl> should i restart my computer?
[02:15] <edbian> !gcalc-tool
[02:16] <s_> Dr_Willis: another ubuntu-like distro
[02:16] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: It probably didn't overwrite the flash plugin file I'm guessing
[02:16] <duiu> unop: I did, but I'm confused
[02:16] <edbian> !gcalctool
[02:16] <JoshStrobl> (restarting computer(
[02:16] <jamieleshaw> !calc
[02:16] <edbian> well "gcalctool" is the actual name
[02:16] <unop> kevdog, the preferred way is to use -exec .. xargs is usually broken unless all filenames passed to it are quoted properly
[02:17] <unop> duiu, see the --include and --include-from options -- you specify patterns to them
[02:17] <jamieleshaw> edbian: You see the other night, I was on here asking how to add percentage with gcalc tool, (I'm used to  windows), Anyway I finally figured it out.
[02:17] <duiu> unop: yes, I know that, but I was having troubles. Think I got it now, issue with * vs **
[02:17] <kevdog> unop: What are the parentheses for?
[02:18] <edbian> jamieleshaw: O good. :)
[02:18] <unop> kevdog, parantheses in regards to the shell or find?
[02:18] <kevdog> unop: The parentheses in the exec {}
[02:18] <jamieleshaw> edbian: I asked here because UBUNTU IRC people normally help me, but instead they acted as if i were a moron.
[02:19] <edbian> jamieleshaw: No offense but adding percentages isn't exactly ubuntu related.  Even if you are using an ubuntu app.  That's like someone asking for help on a term paper written using Open Office.
[02:20] <unop> kevdog, those are curly-braces not parantheses .. find expands that notation to the filename found so it can be passed to the application properly
[02:20] <jamieleshaw> edbian: I know, but you's normally help me anyway.
[02:20] <worldwarcheese> Hi. I was wondering if anyone has had problems with their graphics drivers after a reboot? I had uninstalled my X server for the Nvidia driver but now on reboot its saying I don't have it and made me use the X server.
[02:20] <edbian> jamieleshaw: Well I'm flattered.  Do you need help right now? :)
[02:21] <Adremelech|Lapto> worldwarcheese, you need X to use the nvidia driver
[02:21] <worldwarcheese> I had been using my comp for weeks without issue on the Nvidia driver as well so it just seems random
[02:21] <jamieleshaw> edbain: No, but if your in Australia, I can give you $10 off at jambocentral.com
[02:21] <unop> kevdog, for example you might want something like this.    find . -exec echo I found {} \;
[02:21] <apoleo12> dr_willis: I'd expect it easily find those OS'es but as the menu.lst puts it by numbers.. guess Ill play with those numbers then
[02:21] <jamieleshaw> edbian: Because I really like Ubuntu.
[02:21] <Alastair-> can anyone explain to me what '\r' is? I'm trying to parse a text file and '\r' keeps appearing.
[02:21] <JoshStrobl> ok I restarted my computer and audio now works
[02:21] <edbian> jamieleshaw: Unfortunately I'm in America (Il to be specific) I've never even been to a jambocentral!
[02:22] <edbian> jamieleshaw: PM me?
[02:22] <worldwarcheese> Adremelech|Lapto: I uninstalled those because they got in the way of the Nvidia proprietary drivers
[02:22] <JoshStrobl> jumbers> thank you for your great help
[02:22] <kevdog> unop:  Do I always this for example if I was passing the output to sed or something?  Couldn't I just do a find . -name "*.mp3" | sed ...........
[02:22] <bdubz111> Nobody Cares, [daemon]
[02:22] <bdubz111> Nobody Cares, [DMC]
[02:22] <bdubz111> Nobody Cares, [pablo]
[02:22] <bdubz111> Nobody Cares, ]RandoM[
[02:22] <bdubz111> Nobody Cares, ^cheeky
[02:22] <bdubz111> Nobody Cares, __iron
[02:22] <FloodBot1> bdubz111: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:22] <jamieleshaw> edbian: Sure.
[02:22] <unop> Alastair-, \r is a carriage return - typically used in windows style line endings
[02:22] <edbian> Alastair-: \<something> is how windows passes arguments
[02:22] <Alastair-> ah, okay.
[02:22] <Alastair-> thank you.
[02:23] <Adremelech|Lapto> worldwarcheese, just run nvidia-xconfig after you install the nvidia-drivers
[02:23] <jamieleshaw> edbian: Quick question, I'm using XChat When i clcik on your name it does not go into pm mode.
[02:23] <JoshStrobl> right click on name
[02:23] <unop> kevdog, you could do that - but you must be careful, that construct can break if your filenames have spaces or newlines, etc in them.
[02:23] <JoshStrobl> click Open Dialog Window
[02:23] <edbian> jamieleshaw: Right click "private message"
[02:23] <GuidMorrow> i'm trying to set up partitions so I can install windows side-by-side with ubuntu, how do I configure GRUB to recognize windows
[02:23] <JoshStrobl> i use xChat also so I'm familiar with everything set up on it
[02:23] <worldwarcheese> Adremelech|Lapto: So I should reinstall the drivers I got a few weeks back from the Nvidia website and after installation I should run that line?
[02:24] <unop> kevdog,  this should help you - http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[02:24] <kevdog> unop: So what would be the correct syntax for use with sed?
[02:24] <Adremelech|Lapto> worldwarcheese, apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[02:24] <Rasputine> Hello, any alternative to #php channel?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  menu.lst can also use UUID's :)
[02:24] <worldwarcheese> Adremelech|Lapto: What does that do?
[02:24] <GuidMorrow> can anyone see my text, xchat makes mine look dark against this black background
[02:25] <Adremelech|Lapto> worldwarcheese, installs nvidia-drivers
[02:25] <unop> kevdog,   erm it gets complicated.    while read -r -d '' line; do sed -e '...' <<< "$line"; done < <(find . -print0)
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  xchat has color settings in the menus somewhere. and its themeable with different colors
[02:25] <Firefishe> GuidMorrow:  I can see you quite well
[02:25] <JoshStrobl> wtf my audio on youtube was working like 1 second ago now it aint
[02:25] <apoleo12> Dr_willis: well that I not know that but I'll use the 9hdx,x) format... cuz i do get the concept
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  speak up.. :) i cant hear you
[02:25] <Firefishe> Hey Dr_Willis :)
[02:25] <worldwarcheese> Adremelech|Lapto: All of them or find the correct one? Because the driver I had to install last time had a long name to it like x86-64-something-or-other
[02:25] <unop> kevdog, the link i gave you discusses some pitfalls and how to avoid them
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  a =0  b=1   :)  starts at 0 thats the trick to rember.. grub command line/shell also has features to show/find specific files so you can tell what os/drive is what.
[02:26] <jumbers> JoshStrobl: It worked?
[02:26] <Adremelech|Lapto> worldwarcheese, nvidia-glx-180 should be the one you want to install
[02:26] <kevdog> unop: Im reading the page right now, but the last example you gave me -- That's crazy!
[02:26] <woods> almost there, how can i run .patch files?
[02:26] <apoleo12> dr_willis: yeah...
[02:27] <JoshStrobl> jumbers> it did the first time, so i restarted firefox again just to make sure and it didn't work!
[02:27] <unop> kevdog, well yea, typically for trivial scripts - you wouldn't go through the hassle - but if you want your script to work everywhere and not be prone to errors, you'd have to worry.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  below the 'Title XXXX' line you notice a 'uuid XXXXX' line - that is replacing the old fashioned 'root hd0' option you may see mentioned in some grub docs  (uuid in grub is a relatively new feature)
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  and root=UUID=XXXX is also  a 'new' feature.    ages ago it would of been root=sda1 or similer.. wich could REALLY goof things up
[02:28] <smegzor> My wife's computer crashes a lot.  She gets a black screen, then kicked back to the Ubuntu login (not a full reboot).  She runs Ubuntu 9.04 64bit with Gnome.  It has gigs free in / and /home.  I have replaced most of the computer, but haven't found a cause.  Her Ubuntu install is fairly new.  It has always done this on her pc.  Mine is fine.  Would anything show up in a log?  If so, which log should I look at?
[02:28] <apoleo12> dr_wilis: there isnt UUID in menu.lst...
[02:28] <worldwarcheese> AdremelechLapto: Thanks for the help. I'm going to try that and see how it goes.
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  there is here.... look again..
[02:28] <felix_> vlc isnt listed on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz
[02:28] <JoshStrobl> smeg> use 32 bit
[02:28] <Adremelech|Lapto> worldwarcheese, just remember to run nvidia-xconfig twice after the drivers are installed
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f66184e16
[02:29] <apoleo12> yeah yer right.. in the kernel line
[02:29] <felix_> vlc isnt listed on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz ... it isnt available?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> smegzor:   You may want to disable compiz if you are using it also.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[02:29] <smegzor> JoshStrobl: all our computers (3) use 64bit.  That way they can all share the same updates (cached).
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> felix_:  its in the multiverse repo.
[02:29] <GuidMorrow> !grub
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> not sure about hardy.. i think it was there also.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc hardy
[02:29] <smegzor> I'll disable compiz (if its enabled).  brb
[02:29] <worldwarcheese> Adremelech|Lapto: Twice? Why?
[02:30] <felix_> Dr_Willis, could you give me a full url to the vlc source? i cant find it
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> smegzor:  normally X crashign to GDM is 'X crashing and restarting' that can often be due to video card driver issues.
[02:30] <woods> i run patch blah.patch ,and it stood there
[02:30] <Adremelech|Lapto> worldwarcheese, it usually gives some config error the first time its run, so i always run it a second time to make sure (it doesnt give an error the second time)
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> felix_:  no idea where its at.. theres apt commands to download the source packages if you have the source repos enabled.
[02:31] <GuidMorrow> where the heck's firefox when I need it opened
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> felix_:   i recall vlc can be a pain to recompile.
[02:31] <worldwarcheese> Adremelech|Lapto: Out of sheer curiosity, did you ever figure out why it runs that error?
[02:31] <trinium> s
[02:31] <felix_> Dr_Willis, im using gNewSense, i cant add multiverse to my sources.list, it would break. thats wwhy i need the url
[02:31] <mateus> Alguém do RS aí?
[02:31] <Adremelech|Lapto> worldwarcheese, nope, but it always seems to work fine
[02:31] <smegzor> Dr_Willis: hmm..  it has had several video cards to try to fix the problem.  The latest is a not very modern Nvidia.
[02:31] <trinium> typing on english :S
[02:32] <worldwarcheese> Adremelech|Lapto: And you run games and compiz and everything fine?
[02:32] <smegzor> It doesn't have Compiz installed so thats not the problem.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> felix_:  Hmm.. why would it break. the command i am thinking of just downloads the src files to the local directory.  but ive never used gnusence.. so good luck.
[02:32] <worldwarcheese> Adremelech|Lapto: This is just a little different from the way I first learned it I want to make sure it goes smoothly
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> smegzor:  what video card and what driver are you using for it?
[02:32] <Adremelech|Lapto> worldwarcheese, yes. I have a 9500 GT and it runs flawlessly.
[02:32] <Adremelech|Lapto> *nvidia 9500 GT
[02:33] <jamieleshaw> edbian are you still there?
[02:33] <felix_> ok, the right apt-line is "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy/ multiverse"?
[02:33] <felix_> it MUST be hardy
[02:34] <kevdog> unop: That wiki went from basic to extreme really quick!!!
[02:35] <smegzor> Dr_Willis: no proprietory drivers in use.  I can't tell which nvidia card it has without opening the case.  I'm not sure which command I need to get that info without doing that.
[02:35] <Adremelech|Lapto> smegzor, lspci
[02:35] <porthose> ubuntu-dev-tools = pull-lp-source <package name> <target release>
[02:36] <apoleo12> dr_will: one question, what ya told me you're saying in the line of menu.lst root (hd2,4) can be replaced with UUID???
[02:36] <Dacvak> Hey guys, I'm trying to get grub to let me boot into Windows. I have Windows 7 installed on a separate partition on my main (and only) hard drive. How can I configure grub to allow me to boot into Windows?
[02:36] <Adremelech|Lapto> smegzor, also "aptitude search nvidia" will tell you if you have ubuntu's nvidia drivers installed
[02:36] <smegzor> Dr_Willis: Well I was wrong about the card.  It is an ATI 9200 Pro.
[02:37] <smegzor> I have a couple of nvidia cards lying around.  I will throw one of those in.
[02:37] <woods> running patch --verbose whatever.patch ,does nothing. No error message. is this a bad problem?
[02:37] <CoRnJuLiOx> can anyone recommend a good multi-language IDE (looking for Python, HTML, CSS support at least)? I know theres KDevelop, but installing that would require I install a bunch of KDE related stuff I'll never use, and I'm trying to get the most out of my 30 GB hard drive here.
[02:38] <pellicon> (synaptic:5529): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0？？？
[02:38] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis: (about 2 hours ago) I was trying to edit the grub file to boot into windows. Just simply commenting out that Windows example didn't work at all. Any ideas?
[02:39] <Qu4R0w> how to mount ext3 partition??after i reboot,i nid to mount it again.how to make system remmber it??
[02:39] <sebsebseb> apoleo12: easy   gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  and  look at the Windows example
[02:39] <mateus_> alguem do Brasil?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> !pr |  mateus_
[02:39] <Mark__> Qu4R0w, look at /etc/fstab
[02:39] <ecanto> mateus_, yo!
[02:39] <sebsebseb> !br |  mateus_
[02:39] <pellicon> who can help me
[02:40] <mateus_> ubottu, thanks
[02:40] <mateus_> ecanto, você é de onde?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  mateus_
[02:41] <sebsebseb> mateus_: I got the bot to put that
[02:41] <ecanto> mateus_, ta com alguma duvida?
[02:41] <jamieleshaw> ubottu: great
[02:41] <kavurt> Qu4R0w, you should add a line in /etc/fstab to automount that partition at boot
[02:41] <apoleo12> serb: yea I'm looking into this file anyway... but was wondering if that root line can be replaced with UUID....
[02:41] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: owh..that y i cant see my /dev/sda8 partition*
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  most likely you need to change the hd#,# 's to be the proper ones.. dependong on whats not working
[02:41] <apoleo12> *sebsebseb
[02:42] <sebsebseb> apoleo12: try it
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  my menu.lst boots windows  -> here it is for example -> http://pastebin.com/f66184e16
[02:42] <kavurt> Qu4R0w, do you need help how to do it?
[02:43] <felix_> !vlc hardy
[02:43] <Qu4R0w> dev/sda5 /media/disk ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0=replace with my sda8?
[02:43] <felix_> !vlc
[02:43] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: /dev/sda5 /media/disk ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[02:43] <felix_> ! vlc
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> felix_:  its !info vlc hardy
[02:43] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: do i nid replace with my dev8 right?
[02:43] <danbhfive1> !logs
[02:43] <felix_> !info vlc hardy
[02:43] <kavurt> Qu4R0w, that's for ntfs partition, for ext3 it's different
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> felix_:  that tells you the version and other info of vlc from the hardy repos.
[02:44] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: # Entry for /dev/sda6 :?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> felix_:  if you are going to recompile vlc. why not just use the latest source?
[02:45] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: after ext3,i just add this=relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1?
[02:45] <Tylere> Anyone tried the new 9.8 FGLRX with Jaunty? Does a 4870x2 card actually work now? Or is it still very broken?
[02:45] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis: "Windows Vista (Ewww!)" LOL
[02:46] <GuidMorrow> !floppy
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  :) yep.. and the  colors for titles dont work as the docs say either.. if ya notice the color codes
[02:46] <kavurt> Qu4R0w, that will work
[02:46] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: i try after reboot
[02:46] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis: I'll try a different hard drive number thingy then? I mean, I'm 99% it's just (hd0,0). so I don't know why it wouldn't work.
[02:46] <danbhfive1> CoRnJuLiOx: did you get an answer to your IDE question?  Im curious if so
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Dacvak: Vista  is ok  for   Microsoft,  and  Windows 7 is Vista version 2,  and  most Linux distros :)   and  BSD :)  and  Mac OS X  is alright
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  hd0 is NOT the same as hd0,0 :)
[02:46] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: can u translate "dunno, stop refering to a nfs in your fstab" to basic english..i not understand that
[02:47] <CoRnJuLiOx> danbhfive1: no i havent, but i'm looking into something neat i'll keep you posted if you want
[02:47] <danbhfive1> CoRnJuLiOx: yes please
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  you can edit that hd0.0 on the fly from the grub menu./command line fetures and test out other #'s easially enough
[02:47] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis: Noted. Could you tell me where to get into that grub file again?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  or copy/paste the entry  and make different ones each with a difffednt hd#,#
[02:47] <waynemm> !MrFixit 02 - Weird Al - Stuck in a Closet With Vanna Whit.mp3
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[02:47] <kavurt> Qu4R0w, where did you get it?
[02:48] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis: Yeah, thanks. I'll give this a try.
[02:48] <waynemm> oops
[02:48] <CoRnJuLiOx> danbhfive1: http://penguininside.blogspot.com/2009/08/top-10-multi-language-ides-for-linux.html <--check this out, i'm personally interested in using gEdit as an IDE
[02:48] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: from #suse
[02:48] <GMFlash> i'm running 9.04 with the proprietary nvidia driver on a Geforce3 Ti 200 and it seems to be stuck in 8-bit color even though DefaultDepth is 24. anyone have an idea how to fix this? without the proprietary driver i get 24-bit color.
[02:49] <kavurt> Qu4R0w, I don't know either, what does it mean
[02:49] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: please see mine=http://paste.ubuntu.com/254318/  i got error=no NFS found in /etc/fstab:
[02:49] <xOrphenochx> i had more luck when using jaunty with the latest nvidia drivers from their website
[02:49] <danbhfive1> CoRnJuLiOx: yeah, I use gedit for text editing in general.  Someone just clued me into its developer document lookup plugin.
[02:49] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis: Is there just some easy way to find out what the hard drive number is? Or do I just have to test them?
[02:49] <Qu4R0w> kavurt: me also..hard to understand.me poor english
[02:50] <danc3> Dacvak: the "hard drive number"???
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  thje grub docs detil the grub command line and it has tools to show what drives are what. You will want to find out what one it says is the windows ntfs./vfat drive.
[02:50] <Qu4R0w> Dacvak: UUID?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  sda = hd0 normally
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> sdb = hd1
[02:50] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: please see mine=http://paste.ubuntu.com/254318/  i got error=no NFS found in /etc/fstab:
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  booting from a exteranal USB drvice can 'reorder' these also..
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  /etc/fstab has a typo would be my guess...
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Qu4R0w:  but that has nothing to do with grub that i am aware of
[02:51] <com-8> nick henky_chan25m
[02:51] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis: So, could it possibly just be (hdX) instead of something like (hdX,X)?
[02:52] <Qu4R0w> Dr_Willis: owh..ok then,..
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  depends on how your system is set up. MY machine is hd0,1 becuase its the first parttion on the first drive..  You could chain boot the 2nd or other hard drives with hd2
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  hd0 is the 'drive' hd0,0 is the first partition ON the first drive
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  at the grub 'shell' when you boot (or use grub from the command line) you can do some
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> 'tab completion' to see what grub sees as what devices
[02:54] <Padmouse> #limeira
[02:54] <rob0917> how many times can ubuntu  be upgraded to the next release ? before you have to do a clean install
[02:55] <beasty> lol
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> rob0917:  a whole bunch.. if you are lucky
[02:55] <donavan_> anyone know of a journal/diary program for ubuntu that has password  protection
[02:55] <beasty> Dr_Willis: it was indeed in his fstab :)
[02:55] <IdleOne> rob0917, ideally eternally
[02:55] <rob0917> thanks
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> I alwyas do clean reinstalls. :)
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> seems more reliable that way
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> plus i can check out the new default themes easier. :P
[02:56] <GuidMorrow> wth?!  why are floppy disks read-only in here?!
[02:56] <IdleOne> rob0917, if you have a seperate /home then fresh install are not as bothersome
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  it would depend on how they are mounted..
[02:57] <rob0917> ok
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  inless you got that little R/W tab moved :)
[02:57] <jeeves_Moss> what does the acer-wmid do?  I get a boot up error when I start this laptop
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> !info acer-wmid
[02:57] <jeeves_Moss> Dr_Willis, lol, that's what I said already
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> work time for me. bye all
[02:58] <GuidMorrow> the disk isn't write protected
[02:58] <beasty> donavan_: http://lifeograph.wikidot.com/start
[02:58] <GuidMorrow> and why can't I even find my floppy drive?
[02:59] <donavan_> beasty... thanks
[03:01] <beasty> donavan_: np :)
[03:02] <GuidMorrow> how do I do a scan for that floppy drive controller
[03:02] <kurisuto> Question:  I want to install version 5.8 of Catalyst (a Perl-based web development framework).  I've got Ubuntu 9.04 installed.  Ubuntu 9.04 has Catalyst 5.7 (an old version).  I see that Karmic has Catalyst 5.8.  Is there some way I can take advantage of that Catalyst 5.8 package from Karmic to install Catalyst 5.8 in my Ubuntu 9.04 installation?  Or is that definitely impossible?
[03:03] <Mactabilis> is there a channel for karmic ?
[03:04] <IdleOne> !karmic
[03:04] <beasty> :)
[03:04] <Mactabilis> thank you :)
[03:04] <Dacvak> Aw crap, Dr_Willis left. Now who will help me? =(
[03:05] <kurisuto> So you're saying I should ask that question in #ubuntu+1?
[03:05] <Dacvak> I'm trying to edit grub to allow me to boot into Windows 7. (dual boot, one hard drive, its partition is located on sda2)
[03:05] <arthus> I'm unable to get Apache working properly. I try to start it, but I'm unable to connect. Can someone please help?
[03:05] <Dacvak> I can't figure out how to do it.
[03:05] <arthus> I get this error: "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName"
[03:05] <beasty> <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[03:05] <beasty> that's not good
[03:05] <beasty> :p
[03:05] <FloodBot1> beasty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:06] <luomo> Ubuntu is trying to connect to my modem through wireless/wired connection then a message comes:"wired/wireless connection is disconnected". Could anyone help me?
[03:06] <neglesaks> there's no place like <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:06] <beasty> arthus: why <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[03:06] <beasty> neglesaks: true that!
[03:06] <arthus> beasty: No idea
[03:06] <beasty> ok
[03:06] <IdleOne> beasty, <IP_ADDRESS> is localhost
[03:07] <beasty> IdleOne: yeah ... but <IP_ADDRESS> ? :p
[03:08] <IdleOne> beasty, oh I see lol beats me
[03:08] <Dacvak> Could someone help me boot into Windows using grub?
[03:08] <beasty> arthus: did you messed around in your /etc/hosts file ?
[03:09] <arthus> beasty: what's that?
[03:09] <beasty> ok nm
[03:09] <arthus> sorry, I'm kindof a noob/
[03:09] <beasty> arthus: no problem ... i'm one to :)
[03:10] <arthus> Hmm... ok; so I restarted, and now I no longer get that error.
[03:10] <beasty> arthus: what do you get when you visit http://<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[03:10] <arthus> However, the site still doesn't load.
[03:10] <Ben64> <IP_ADDRESS> works as localhost too
[03:10] <Ben64> 127.*.*.* should all loopback
[03:11] <arthus> beasty: connection refused
[03:11] <woods> it worked!
[03:11] <woods> the intel driver
[03:11] <woods> thank u dr_willis.
[03:11] <beasty> arthus: what you can do is set the 'LogLevel' from apache2.conf to 'devel'
[03:11] <kurisuto> Are you totally sure you typed the UP address right, and that it wasn't <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:11] <beasty> arthus: err. debug
[03:11] <beasty> kurisuto: UP ? :p
[03:11] <Ben64> IP
[03:11] <beasty> :)
[03:11] <kurisuto> I mean IP
[03:11] <kurisuto> It's late.
[03:12] <beasty> sorry i'm mean when i'm tired :p
[03:12] <GuidMorrow> my floppy disk drive will not work
[03:12] <beasty> mm
[03:12] <arthus> beasty: ok, still doesn't work
[03:12] <luomo> Ubuntu is trying to connect to my modem through wireless/wired connection then a message comes:"wired/wireless connection is disconnected". Could anyone help me?
[03:12] <beasty> arthus: check your /var/log/(httpd|apache2)/error.log
[03:13] <beasty> mm i'm going to bed
[03:13] <analysis62> Good night everybody (in Brazil 23 hours now)
[03:13] <beasty> enough php code written for today :p
[03:14] <beasty> in .be 4u13am now
[03:14] <luomo> Ubuntu is trying to connect to my modem through wireless/wired connection then a message comes:"wired/wireless connection is disconnected". Could anyone help me?
[03:14] <arthus> beasty: Ok, I get this error: "PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/curl.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/curl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown$ /usr/sbin/apache2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/pdo_mysql.so: undefined symbol: php_pdo_get_dbh_ce"
[03:14] <beasty> that's not good :p
[03:14] <etyrnal> is there someone here who knows how, and might be willing to help me solve the porblem indicated by "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready"
[03:15] <IdleOne> GuidMorrow, look in /media for your floppy
[03:15] <analysis62> I have Ubuntu 8.10 if I install Xubuntu 9.04 will I break everything?
[03:15] <IdleOne> analysis62, there is a known regression for intel drivers
[03:15] <beasty> etyrnal: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready, merely means what it says: the link is not up yet. The link will be up once wpa_supplicant negotiated the key.
[03:15] <IdleOne> !intel | analysis62
[03:16] <etyrnal> beasty, my wifi network does not require a key
[03:16] <lstarnes> analysis62: you should upgrade to 9.04 first instead of installing 9.04 packages on 8.10
[03:16] <arthus> beasty: any ideas?
[03:16] <beasty> arthus: sure
[03:16] <analysis62> What you men by regresion?
[03:16] <etyrnal> beasty, also...  when the machine first comes up. the wifi works for about 1 to 5 minutes... then seem,s to die/
[03:17] <beasty> arthus: edit the apache2 php.ini file and delete every .so file at the bottom listed above
[03:17] <IdleOne> analysis62, well some intel graphics drivers that worked in 8.10 stopped working in 9.04
[03:17] <analysis62> IdleOne: And what about Via Chrome?
[03:17] <Lostinspace_46> When trying to run the screenlets-packager I get this msg  Error: Unable to import module 'Weather' from /home/daniel/tarred-screenlets/Weather. (No module named Numeric).  What, exactly is the packager looking for?
[03:18] <IdleOne> analysis62, get a Xubuntu livecd and test it see if everything works
[03:18] <IdleOne> Lostinspace_46, it's looking for a module named Numeric
[03:19] <analysis62> Well...I do this and everythig was fine. I just do not want loose the archieves aready
[03:19] <beasty> off to bed now
[03:19] <beasty> nn
[03:19] <Lostinspace_46> The packager works on NowCalendar, and I can't find a module named Numeric in it.
[03:20] <GuidMorrow> i gotta be able to write to physical media but I can't find the drive to mount the disk by
[03:21] <Lostinspace_46> I guess I should ask, what comprises a Numeric module?
[03:21] <IdleOne> Lostinspace_46, I don't know sorry
[03:21] <kyskyl> hola buenas noches
[03:22] <analysis62> Ola kyskyl
[03:22] <IdleOne> !es | buenas kyskyl
[03:22] <kyskyl> hola analysis
[03:22] <GuidMorrow> !es | kyskyl
[03:22] <kyskyl> si eso es verdad yo nose nada de nada en ingles
[03:22] <GuidMorrow> ubottu [Not Responding]
[03:23] <pm_41>  how do you play URL streams in amarok?
[03:23] <IdleOne> GuidMorrow, the bot won't repeat the same factoid in w certain time limit
[03:23] <Lostinspace_46> IdleOne: The thing is a piece of a file or a the file or the folger that holds the file can all be referred to as a module
[03:24] <skrapasor> how do i change my default terminal font?
[03:24] <analysis62> OK thanks, I am going...
[03:25] <arthus> I can't find my php.ini file
[03:25] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  how can i check wheter my wireless card supports wpa2 encryption?
[03:25] <IdleOne> Lostinspace_46, wish I could be more help
[03:26] <Lostinspace_46> The word Numeric isn't even in the NowCalendar, but it works.  At least Weather imports Numeric.
[03:26] <Lostinspace_46> IdleOne: I know, I am just hoping someone will know the answer
[03:27] <lnxten> about what?
[03:27] <Lostinspace_46> IdleOne: I'm sur it makes sense, but I can't find the sense in it.
[03:27] <quietshaman> hmmm...newbie here....when I try to rearrange or move desktop icons, they all disappear. I'm running only one desktop, so they are not going onto another desktop. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for help
[03:29] <gabangie> hi
[03:29] <lnxten> check hot key combination for work space change
[03:29] <boss_mc> binMonkey: try to connect to a WPA2 secured router?
[03:29] <gabangie> is there anyone here?
[03:29] <boss_mc> gabangie: hi!
[03:29] <binMonkey> boss_mc: ok.  i thought maybe there was a command i could use before i changed everything.  thanks.
[03:29] <gabangie> hi
[03:30] <lnxten> everybody here, friend
[03:30] <boss_mc> binMonkey: if it's at all recent, it should be supported
[03:31] <Vigh> I'm running a webserver on jaunty, and whenever Apache is running (~20% CPU load, not using full bandwidth), SSH performs very slowly (i.e. I am SSHing in and commands take a relatively long time to respond) -- any suggestions?
[03:31] <boss_mc> Vigh: you could renice the sshd process?
[03:31] <mazda01_> Vigh: whats your isp connection upload limit?
[03:32] <Vigh> mazda01_: it's running on Amazon's EC2 -- the bandwidth is not an issue
[03:33] <lnxten> #ubuntu-server
[03:33] <Vigh> mazda01_: (if it matters, the connection is something like 80Mbps up, and the webserver is nowhere near that =P)
[03:33] <automan070192> how do i find out my su password?
[03:33] <Vigh> lnxten: thanks
[03:33] <boss_mc> !root
[03:33] <IdleOne> automan070192, your sudo password is the password you set for your user
[03:33] <boss_mc> automan070192: read ^
[03:34] <gabangie> i got a question is there any software like crossloop or teamviewer that it will allow me to control somebody linux desktop?
[03:34] <lnxten> only possible is reset the root password by simple trick
[03:34] <boss_mc> gabangie: with their permission?
[03:34] <gabangie> yes
[03:35] <gabangie> or without it , it does nt matter to me
[03:35] <gabangie> just to help others with their issues
[03:35] <lnxten> gargeni: vnc server and client
[03:35] <betho> Hi.. can anybody help me.. with some external usb Hdd.. I cant configure it.. Im new in this Ubuntu...
[03:36] <IdleOne> gabangie, seems teamviewer runs with wine
[03:36] <IdleOne> I havent tried it
[03:36] <boss_mc> gabangie: or look at !vnc or !ssh
[03:36] <boss_mc> gabangie: depends what you're looking for
[03:37] <gabangie> yes i know vnc or ssh but i have to setup their router , etc and i dont want to do that and in some cases i cant
[03:37] <boss_mc> gabangie: fair nuf, check out !appdb to see the !wine support
[03:37] <IdleOne> gabangie, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/39552
[03:38] <automan070192> i keep putting in my regular pass and it doesnt work any help?
[03:38] <lnxten> auto mount does external hard disk to access. what's your need?
[03:38] <gabangie> i tried crossloop and it works with debian so far so good but with ubuntu does nt work
[03:38] <yoyoned> betho: did you plug it in,
[03:38] <boss_mc> automan070192: are you trying to use su or sudo?
[03:38] <betho> yes yoyoned..
[03:38] <gabangie> issues with the image and options that does nt work
[03:38] <IdleOne> automan070192, there is no root password and we wont help you hack to find out the users password
[03:39] <betho> he is running.. but I cant access the external HDD
[03:39] <lnxten> any warning or error message?
[03:42] <yoyoned> !ntfs|betho
[03:42] <gabangie> TeamViewer runs under Wine just fine, except that you can not establish an INCOMING connection (have someone control your desktop). Using *VNC is fine as long as you don't mind figuring out destination IP addresses and configuring routers etc etc, unless you're using Hamachi.
[03:42] <gabangie> that is what it said the link u sent me idleOne
[03:43] <IdleOne> gabangie, yes
[03:43] <IdleOne> gabangie, install wine and then wine teamvier.exe to install
[03:44] <_fluffee> Is there a highly reccomended firewall with GUI?  I'm reasonably conversant with networking, would much prefer a GUI however.  Using 8.10, am trying Guarddog, not thrilled.  So far.
[03:44] <gabangie> ok i ll try to do that and see if that work
[03:44] <gabangie> thxs
[03:44] <IdleOne> !iptables | _fluffee
[03:45] <gabangie> do u know of any other that was made just for linux without using wine
[03:45] <gabangie> \?
[03:45] <lnxten> firewall starter. but better you must learn cli
[03:46] <IdleOne> gabangie, nope not yet. cept for the solutions offered earlier
[03:46] <rachels> quick question
[03:46] <gabangie> have u tried crossloop?
[03:46] <rachels> does anyone know how to encrypt the entire system, AFTER Ubuntu has been installed?
[03:46] <R0b0t1> When running a game like Unreal Tournement (or any other native game; same for games run in WINE, but it is not a WINE problem) the right mouse button won't work if I'm holding down a keyboard key, etc, but the left one does. What might be the problem?
[03:47] <R0b0t1> rachels: Something would need to start the computer up to decrypt it, that might not be the best option.
[03:47] <DasEi> rachels : by now you have to backup and crypt, which means same as reinstall
[03:48] <R0b0t1> You can encrypt your files, though... That's probably just as good.
[03:48] <_fluffee> ubottu: Yeah, I know it's all iptables/chains underneath, was just sort of glossing over.  I'll look at Firestart/Gufw.  Thanks.

[03:48] <R0b0t1> Hah :D
[03:48] <rachels> R0b0t1, don't trust encrypting files -- the OS leaves stuff behind, logs, etc.
[03:49] <rachels> DasEi, so there's no way without reinstall?
[03:49] <gabangie> IdleOne,  ok i guess with tab it can write ur name easier
[03:49] <_fluffee> lnxten: Thnaks, I wil ladd that to the list.  Gonna try the GUI stuff first, get my feet wet.  Thanks again.
[03:49] <gabangie> ;)
[03:49] <IdleOne> gabangie, correct
[03:50] <DasEi> rachels: not really, you could backup an leave the install in order, but more painfull then a clean install and play the packets back by file
[03:50] <gabangie> IdleOne, have u tried crossloop on ubuntu?
[03:50] <gabangie> what linux u got?
[03:50] <IdleOne> gabangie, I have not
[03:50] <DasEi> !clone | rachels
[03:50] <IdleOne> gabangie, ubuntu 9.04
[03:50] <R0b0t1> When running a game like Unreal Tournement (or any other native game; same for games run in WINE, but it is not a WINE problem) the right mouse button won't work if I'm holding down a keyboard key, etc, but the left one does. What might be the problem?
[03:50] <rachels> DasEi, thanks!
[03:52] <gabangie> IdleOne, do u have any idea what is the diference between kde and gnome beyonde the appearence?
[03:52] <IdleOne> gabangie, prefference I suppose is the difference. I prefer gnome
[03:53] <rachels> gabangie, GNOME is "easier", some would say
[03:53] <DasEi> gabangie: they use different libs , but play well together mostly
[03:53] <gabangie> yes i agree on that
[03:53] <QuietShaman> Help please! running jaunty, desktop icons keep disappearing. They reappear when I initiate a new session. They disappear when I try to move them by dragging. I cannot get a "right-click" context menu on the desktop either. What did I break?
[03:54] <IdleOne> DasEi, until you decide to uninstall one of the packages and then the stuff hits the fan
[03:54] <gabangie> which one use less resources? kde or gnome?
[03:54] <IdleOne> gabangie, gor me gnome is lighter
[03:54] <IdleOne> for*
[03:55] <DasEi> IdleOne: yes, and system becomes unhandy (overhead for single apps)
[03:56] <IdleOne> DasEi, what really bugs me about kde is everything starts with a K.
[03:56] <IdleOne> but WM wars are for another channel
[03:56] <gabangie> IdleOne, why like i can make work crossloop great on debian and nt on ubuntu what is the issue?
[03:57] <IdleOne> gabangie, crossloop runs in wine also I don't know if there is a linux version
[03:57] <gabangie> anybody have tried gnew sence linux?
[03:57] <lnxten> xfce. some window managers are may be suitable
[03:57] <IdleOne> gabangie, not in a long time but it is based on ubuntu
[03:58] <gabangie> IdleOne, yes it work on wine but i m saying why i can make it work on debian and nt on ubuntu? should it be the same on both?
[03:58] <Ben64> I burnt a dvd on my windows laptop. I put it in here (ubuntu) and it does not mount automatically. in dmesg I get I/O errors. Whats up?
[03:58] <andijani> hi
[03:58] <IdleOne> gabangie, ubuntu is based on Debian but does have differences. I don't know what they are mind you
[03:58] <detrix> hello everyone.  what is a good database prgram that is simple to use (its for my wife)  kinda like a recipe database, but I want to be able to alter the fields and where they are place???
[03:59] <QuietShaman> .newbie here....when I try to rearrange or move desktop icons, they all disappear. I'm running only one desktop, so they are not going onto another desktop. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for help
[04:00] <IdleOne> detrix, try searching in Synaptic package manager
[04:00] <rabryn> how do you get the icons back if they disappear?  restart?
[04:00] <gabangie> to everyone who has linux i just tried chrome for ubuntu and works great !!
[04:00] <detrix> IdleOne: I did find a couple that were almost what I was looking for.
[04:00] <QuietShaman> rabryn - yes...I have to end the session and restart it.
[04:00] <thiebaude> gabangie, it sure does with flash too
[04:01] <Ezail> irssi warning： Unable to connect server irc.ubuntu.com port 8001 [Cannot
[04:01] <Ezail>           assign requested address: <IP_ADDRESS>  what`s meaning
[04:01] <roscoe> gabangie I have been using Chrome also for a couple of weeks now and I like it
[04:01] <kbp> Ezail: I reckon irc isn't on port 8001
[04:01] <rabryn> jeez... not sure, that's a strange one
[04:02] <gabangie> i found a website that works on debian but nt in ubuntu , musicovery.com whoever want to try it it is good for free music
[04:02] <IdleOne> Ezail, #irssi
[04:02] <QuietShaman> thanks for the thought...maybe I'll do a complete OS reinstall. Yuck
[04:02] <gabangie> i got ibm symphony and it has it is own browser and work great plus it has office
[04:02] <rabryn> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/if-your-desktop-icons-disappear-try-this-508951/
[04:02] <gabangie> if somebody want to try it out
[04:03] <meekon> can anyone help with a question about xfdesktop?
[04:03] <mikegerwitz> QuietShaman: instead of doing a full reinstall, rename/remove your home directory. That will reset everything. If you remove it, be sure to back up the filse you need.
[04:03] <mikegerwitz> If that doesn't work, then you can do for a reinstall
[04:04] <Kai_> rawr
[04:04] <QuietShaman> mikegerwitz - thanks for the tip - I will try that first.
[04:04] <mikegerwitz> QuietShaman: You may need to re-create the directory to log in if you get complaints from GDM or whatever login manager you use
[04:05] <ablyss> meekon, whats the ?
[04:05] <QuietShaman> okay.
[04:05] <Ezail> waht port
[04:05] <J-a-k-e> Does anyone know if ubuntu supports bass redirection/crossover setup for soundcards?
[04:06] <QuietShaman> thank you all 4 the help
[04:06] <meekon> well basically cos xfdesktop 4.6.0 -reload command is broken i want to get 4.6.1, somehow it came up in and update, got it and it worked great. hadto reinstall kuki and dont remember how it turned up in an update, googled my ass off but cant find a repo for it
[04:06] <dsdeiz> anybody having difficulties with sound in ubuntu?
[04:07] <dsdeiz> i've got a really low volume
[04:07] <Ezail> kbp:what port?
[04:07] <dsdeiz> compare to windows :(
[04:07] <meekon> no probs with sound on original kernel and the 31 update
[04:07] <gabangie> IdleOne, i got a question how does this chatroom work? do u stay online for hours everyday to reply ppls question?
[04:08] <gabangie> IdleOne, or just sometimes when u got bored?
[04:08] <DasEi> dsdeiz: pcm up, too ?
[04:08] <mikegerwitz> dsdeiz: Have you tried increasing the volume of "PCM" in gnome's volume control?
[04:08] <mikegerwitz> Or whatever environment you use
[04:08] <IdleOne> gabangie, some people stay logged on all the time
[04:08] <dsdeiz> DasEi: mikegerwitz: i'm usually adjusting volumes using alsamixer
[04:08] <dsdeiz> pcm is up
[04:08] <gabangie> IdleOne,  do u have question too that other ppl can reply them to u?
[04:08] <dsdeiz> to 100%
[04:08] <IdleOne> gabangie, yes a lot
[04:08] <J-a-k-e> any you're not getting distortion?
[04:09] <saturnfossil> I have a question! My gnome theme load failed, a hint is *.svg could not  be display!!!!!
[04:09] <DasEi> dsdeiz: might also check pavucontrol, if pulse is on
[04:09] <IdleOne> gabangie, #ubuntu-offtopic is better sutited for general chat
[04:09] <meekon> no ideas on my question? dang
[04:09] <J-a-k-e> *and
[04:09] <ablyss> meekon, so basically you want to degrade xfce?
[04:09] <IdleOne> suited*
[04:09] <lnxten> its true. because our coding is not given by manufacturing. so sound is little bit low :-)
[04:09] <gabangie> IdleOne, so we help each other in our spear time, is that right?
[04:09] <dsdeiz> DasEi: pavucontrol? err, haven't heard of it yet :D care to provide a link?
[04:09] <IdleOne> gabangie, that is what Ubuntu is
[04:09] <dsdeiz> DasEi: oh btw, i'm using esd rather than pulse
[04:10] <DasEi> dsdeiz: it's a packe, apt-get it
[04:10] <trakcyia> Ben64 Did you receive an answer to your question regarding the checksum errors?
[04:10] <meekon> no, its 4.6.0 atmo, cos of the reinstall, want to get 4.6.1 back, but have no idea how it turned up in an update, must have been a repo i added for something but dont know what. ive got a remastersys backup of the install but not sure if thatll help
[04:10] <saturnfossil> I have a question! My gnome theme load failed, a hint is *.svg could not  be display!!!!!
[04:10] <gabangie> IdleOne, that is great , do u think in 5 years ubuntu will kick MS butt ?
[04:10] <kbp> Ezail: 6667
[04:11] <meekon> ubuntu already kicks ms ass
[04:11] <IdleOne> gabangie, ubuntu's goal is not to kick any other OS'es butt. we just trying to give people a different choice
[04:11] <ablyss> meekon, ah, probably
[04:11] <Ezail> i try
[04:12] <meekon> would be easier to find the right repo, the kuki im on is based on the ubuntu 9.04 jaunty
[04:12] <jats> dsdeiz:I assume you have already adjusted the volume setting?
[04:13] <meekon> have the source files for 4.6.1 but dont know howto compile and add with dependencies etc. might there be a way to get my source.list from the remastersys backup?
[04:13] <ezzieyguywuf> ok, so you know how you can close a tab and firefox goes back to the last tab that was open? how can I increase the history of that. Right now, when I close one tab it goes back to the previous tab, but after that when I close a second tab it just goes to the closest tab not the one that was open second to last - does that make sense?
[04:14] <IdleOne> ezzieyguywuf, yes it does and I have no clue how to do that either
[04:14] <Magliadoro>  Hello. I'm trying to run Morrowind in Wine on Ubuntu 9.04. The sound works fine by the graphics are so slow they're nearly frozen. I don't know what I'm doing with it, as this is the first time I've installed Wine and am not a regular Linux user (though I'm using it more and more lately.) I was hoping to get some help with the configuartion of Wine, perhaps, if that's where the problem is.
[04:14] <gabangie> IdleOne, but unfortunally ppl want what they know even if it is work and i got a computer shop and being trying to install everybody ubuntu but in the long term they end up with windows again
[04:14] <dsdeiz> jats: yups
[04:14] <crazynewbi> Anyone know how to get the touch pad on a sony vaio working
[04:14] <Magliadoro> I have asked this question in #winehq but it's been awhile and no one has answered yet.
[04:14] <ezzieyguywuf> IdleOne: at least it makes sense :-)
[04:14] <ablyss> Magliadoro, try #winehq
[04:15] <Magliadoro> ablyss: Already tried.
[04:15] <Ubiedoodie> anyone here using a compaq laptop and playing dvds,, ubuntu 8.04
[04:15] <IdleOne> ezzieyguywuf, made sense to me but I think weird and so do you it seems lol
[04:16] <Magliadoro> Ubiedoodie: I found that 8.04 didn't like DVDs very much. I upgraded to 9.04 and it works fine.
[04:16] <Ubiedoodie> 9.04 has issues with this laptop.. Compaq c60-211DX tried Kubuntu 9.04 with no success
[04:17] <IdleOne> gabangie, the problem is hardware drivers and game makers not providing linux drivers
[04:17] <Ubiedoodie> totem freezes system on any movie playback
[04:18] <IdleOne> Ubiedoodie, try vlc?
[04:18] <Ubiedoodie> will do ... how to turn off totem autoplay when dvd is inserted?
[04:18] <dsdeiz> oh, or better yet, how to increase the volume on mplayer
[04:18] <dsdeiz> i believe that's where my problem really is
[04:19] <dsdeiz> in vlc, there is this equalizer where i can increase the volume by adjusting some values
[04:19] <bastidrazor> dsdeiz, press zero
[04:20] <gabangie> IdleOne, i got a customer who works at the insurance company and he only need excel and he has an excel file that does nt work well at open office
[04:20] <IdleOne> dsdeiz, I know that ubuntu default is to set the system volume low. I dont know if you checked that already or not
[04:20] <gabangie> so or he go back to ms office with windows or try to install ms office in linux
[04:20] <Ezail> kbp：still  Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Cannot
[04:20] <Ezail>           assign requested address: <IP_ADDRESS>]
[04:20] <etyrnal> is there someone here who knows how, and might be willing to help me solve the porblem indicated by "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready"
[04:20] <etyrnal> beasty, also...  when the machine first comes up. the wifi works for about 1 to 5 minutes... then seem,s to die/
[04:21] <dsdeiz> bastidrazor: pressing zero increases the volume right? i've got it to maxed
[04:21] <dsdeiz> IdleOne: oh? may i ask how to adjust it?
[04:21] <IdleOne> dsdeiz, right click on the speaker in the top right corner
[04:22] <jats> gebangie:any details? I don't think macros are supported in OpenOffice.org(would love to be wrong).
[04:22] <dsdeiz> IdleOne: oh one sec, I have a different environment. can i do it using the terminal?
[04:22] <abhilashm86> whenever i update or upgrade, there is an error in startup manager, how to correct it,http://pastebin.ca/1532119
[04:23] <IdleOne> dsdeiz, type alsamixer
[04:24] <IdleOne> dsdeiz, use arrow keys to adjust values
[04:24] <enthdegree> Hello!
[04:24] <dsdeiz> hmm, i've mentioned earlier that i use alsamixer to adjust volumes :)
[04:24] <IdleOne> dsdeiz, didn't see that sorry
[04:24] <dsdeiz> is there like an equalizer for mplayer that is similar to vlc?
[04:25] <enthdegree> Does anyone know any place I can learn how to make ubuntu binaries? (not compiling, actually making the .deb files for other people to use)
[04:25] <IdleOne> dsdeiz, don't know sorry
[04:25] <gwildor> mplayer -gui has a equlizer im pretty sure... right lcik on the video dsdeiz
[04:25] <dsdeiz> IdleOne: oh ok. thanks anyway
[04:26] <dsdeiz> gwildor: oooh? really?
[04:26] <IdleOne> !packaging | enthdegree
[04:26] <dsdeiz> gwildor: ok, one sec
[04:26] <etyrnal> what's the proper syntax, to use apt-get to dowload the sources for Ubuntu server 9 ?
[04:26] <etyrnal> sudo apt-get source ???????
[04:26] <enthdegree> Thank you! Ubottu.
[04:26] <etyrnal> and then after i've built it, how do i get rid fo the sources?
[04:27] <macius_> hey im wondering do i have to install the ati catalyst from website to play games under ubuntu or is it included in the ati driver package from synaptic?
[04:27] <macius_> would look it to it more but i thik i can get a faster answer here lol
[04:27] <macius_> dont wanna do something unessary
[04:27] <macius_> :P
[04:27] <gabangie> IdleOne, but now intel is helping with mobling with drivers ,etc dont u think?
[04:27] <xobile> hi.. anyone here have luck installing ubuntu on a SATA drive connected to a VIA PCI card and booting to it?
[04:28] <xobile> the installation went on without issue but cannot boot to it
[04:28] <herenbdy> heya, i've installed the nsis package, and there is no nsis executable on my system, how do I use this package then?
[04:28] <Ubiedoodie> can I disable autoplay from totem?
[04:28] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a command to truncate a file to the last X bytes/lines/whatever?
[04:28] <arand> macius_: recommended way is to use the ati packages in repositories (through synaptic), this will enable gaming yes.
[04:29] <etyrnal> Mike_lifeguard,  tail
[04:29] <IdleOne> Ubiedoodie, System>Prefs>Preffered Apps
[04:29] <etyrnal> Mike_lifeguard,  ma tail
[04:29] <Talkradio> tail
[04:29] <Mike_lifeguard> I was going to say "I thought that just printed to stdout" -- but I can redirect stdout to the file itself... somehow.... right?
[04:29] <zefyx> anyone good with openvz?
[04:30] <etyrnal> tail -12 >> file
[04:31] <vassler> Help!! I just deleted the "Applications System Prefereneces" from the top task bar!! How do I get it back???
[04:31] <vassler> It was accident
[04:31] <DigitalKiwi> >> would append
[04:31] <IdleOne> vassler, right click on the top panel and add to panel
[04:31] <DasEi> what's this errormessage when starting a browser from trml ? (it starts, but throws this error) :http://paste.ubuntu.com/254345/
[04:31] <Mike_lifeguard> DigitalKiwi: just one > right?
[04:31] <DigitalKiwi> > would overwrite
[04:31] <vassler> IdleOne: Ok ...
[04:32] <Mike_lifeguard> yep, k
[04:32] <Devastator> does anybody know how to use unionfs-fuse?
[04:32] <Devastator> i'm having some trouble with syntax
[04:34] <Mike_lifeguard> If I do "tail *.out > *.out" will that use the same thing in * for each iteration? like A.out > A.out then B.out > B.out but not mixing As and Bs?
[04:34] <vassler> IdelOne: add what to panel??
[04:35] <IdleOne> vassler, main menu I believe it is
[04:35] <jats> mike:I don't think that second *.out will work
[04:35] <bastidrazor> vassler, Main Menu
[04:35] <etyrnal> what's the proper syntax, to use apt-get to dowload the sources for Ubuntu server 9 ?
[04:36] <DigitalKiwi> Mike_lifeguard: i don't think so but i am not sure
[04:36] <DigitalKiwi> but it's not complicated to do
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm asking in #bash too :)
[04:36] <spo> when you run update-rc.d  to add a new script, do you always have to end it with a period (.) ?
[04:37] <DigitalKiwi> it's something like for $i in * do tail $i > $i end or something
[04:37] <di||itante> spo: no
[04:37] <DigitalKiwi> i don't do bash :(
[04:38] <etyrnal> bash ROCKS
[04:38] <DigitalKiwi> (that's not right btw but it's something like that...)
[04:38] <Mike_lifeguard> meh, there's only a few, I did it by hand
[04:39] <xobile> I installed Ubuntu 9.04 onto a SATA drive connected to a VIA PCI card.. I don't think the VIA PCI card/drive is recognized on boot though.. is there any way to boot to Ubuntu in this case?
[04:40] <ipatrol> What's the status on Karmic?
[04:42] <etyrnal> what's the proper syntax, to use apt-get to dowload the sources for Ubuntu server 9 ?
[04:43] <lnxten> karmic is ready to roll out
[04:44] <lnxten> i think :-)
[04:44] <arand> ipatrol: #ubuntu+1
[04:44] <spo> i would like to look at a default etc setup,  is there somewhere or somehow to look at this?
[04:44] <spo> ie the default file setup of the etc directory
[04:44] <felix_> !info dpkg-buildpackage
[04:45] <felix_> !info dpkg
[04:45] <jats> ipatrol:alpha 4 was just released, I believe. As far as I know they're on track to release in October.
[04:45] <DigitalKiwi> for i in *; do cat $i; done   # Mike_lifeguard
[04:45] <di||itante> spo: there is no default, its different for every install depending what software is used on the system
[04:46] <Mike_lifeguard> DigitalKiwi: I don't want to cat, I want to tail :) But thanks all the same
[04:46] <spo> well i changed some etc files and i want to knwo what the default was
[04:46] <spo> because osmething else rboke
[04:46] <Mike_lifeguard> DigitalKiwi: Apparently it is <yitz_> for file in *.out ; do tail "$file" > tmp ; mv tmp "$file" ; done
[04:46] <di||itante> spo: you might want to look into the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Stansard) to see what is usually put in ".etc"
[04:46] <DigitalKiwi> well use tail instead of cat ofc
[04:46] <di||itante> spo: "/etc"
[04:46] <spo> di, where is that?
[04:47] <maco> di||itante & spo: systemwide config usually
[04:47] <di||itante> spo: Just google it: Linux FHS
[04:47] <DigitalKiwi> hehe, i thought doing to a new file and mv them was what someone would tell you in bash ;D
[04:47] <DigitalKiwi> i should learn bash one of these days :(
[04:48] <DigitalKiwi> too hooked on lua though
[04:48] <Nautilus> I have a dual-boot Xp/ubuntu box, with ubuntu on a 2nd HD.  Is there a way I can copy ubuntu to unused space on the 1st HD?
[04:48] <Tamnakz> Can anyone help me trace a wireless network? One of my neibhors has one, is it possile to trace it to an address through an IP address?
[04:48] <ninjaslim> so i've been comparing sound quality between Ubuntu and FreeBSD, yes they use different sound systems, but sound quaity on Ubuntu is absolutely gross compared to that in FreeBSD, is it because of defaults or something to that effect?
[04:49] <di||itante> Tamnakz: not to a physical street address unless you have access to the ISP's records
[04:49] <mikegerwitz> Tamnakz: It's possible to trace an IP adress to a city, but only the ISP holds the address records
[04:50] <DigitalKiwi> ninjaslim:  oss4 might sound better than alsa
[04:50] <Nautilus> ^^^ unused space, meaning unpartitioned space
[04:52] <jmazikowski>  trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 (alternate cd) on a desktop but it seems to be locking up at 39%. The Scroll, Num, and Caps Lock lights on my keyboard are just flashing together. The CD passed the "Check CD for errors" test.
[04:52] <Tamnakz> Is there any way to realistically find the person or get a message to them using their IP address?
[04:52] <maco> jmazikowski: that'd be a kernel panic
[04:52] <maco> Tamnakz: not unless theyve a mail server on there and you know what user you want to send to
[04:53] <IdleOne> Tamnakz, contact the ISP if you feel it is that serious
[04:53] <Tamnakz> not a problem at all!!!
[04:53] <Nautilus> Tamnakz: knock on neighbors doors
[04:53] <Tamnakz> just want to find out who it is and ask permission to be on it!
[04:53] <IdleOne> Tamnakz, lol good luck with that
[04:53] <Tamnakz> Nautilus: that's next, I haev a good idea who it is
[04:53] <Nautilus> well there ya go
[04:54] <Tamnakz> idleone: I can trace through comcast that it's an unlimited broadband plan, all I need is to be able to send and recieve a few documents for work
[04:54] <jmazikowski> maco: how do I go about getting it past that point?
[04:54] <di||itante> Tamnakz: I think youre better off not asking
[04:55] <IdleOne> Tamnakz, the fact that you want to ask for permission to me says your a decent person. I don't see it being a big issue if you use the connection for a little bit
[04:55] <Tamnakz> right, but it's very weak, My uncle can re-flash a router and I can build a tuned antenna to get a perfect signal, for about ten bucks
[04:56] <ninjaslim> DigitalKiwi: i see, i thought as much but i'm assuming it's not recommended to isntall it on ubuntu
[04:56] <di||itante> Tamnakz: If you ask and they say yes, then they do some kiddie pr0n and get arrested, they can say you did it.
[04:56] <DigitalKiwi> why wouldn't it be recommended to install on ubuntu?
[04:56] <maco> jmazikowski: are you familiar with the blue screen of death? that's the windows nickname for a kernel panic
[04:56] <DigitalKiwi> !oss4
[04:57] <DigitalKiwi> !oss
[04:57] <DigitalKiwi> !info oss4
[04:57] <maco> jmazikowski: either there's some bad hardware or some really horrible driver is flipping out
[04:57] <DigitalKiwi> i give up
[04:57] <maco> DigitalKiwi: it isnt in ubuntu
[04:57] <ninjaslim> lol
[04:57] <ninjaslim> that's ok
[04:57] <DigitalKiwi> maco: wut
[04:57] <Tamnakz> So, there's not much of a chance of figuring out who it is without going door to door?
[04:57] <maco> DigitalKiwi: because its a replacment for ALSA
[04:57] <maco> DigitalKiwi: one that is not very complete on many newer sound cards
[04:57] <Nautilus> Tamnakz: wander with a laptop and watch signal strength
[04:57] <sporkboy> does anybody know of a way to manually edit the palette on a gif file? gimp decided black wasn't important, and I need it to match the background on a website.
[04:57] <ninjaslim> no, it's not a replacement for ALSA, ALSA was a replacement for OSS on Linux
[04:58] <DigitalKiwi> does ubuntu have some exclusive deal with the alsa devs? :P
[04:58] <maco> ninjaslim: well except that oss was removed so if you were going to put it back *in*... thatd be replacing it, now wouldnt it?
[04:58] <ninjaslim> because it was encumbered software, but OSS4 is now available under BSD and GPL licenses
[04:58] <DigitalKiwi> oss4 is actually pretty decent
[04:58] <maco> DigitalKiwi: alsa is in the kernel. oss4 is not. oss4 will NEVER be in the kernel.
[04:58] <maco> ninjaslim: it also does floating point arithmetic in kernel space
[04:59] <maco> (there is a ban on floating point arithmetic)
[04:59]  * ninjaslim sigh
[04:59] <DigitalKiwi> oi gf
[04:59] <maco> oss4 is superior on very old sound cards though, ill give ya that
[04:59] <maco> a couple of creatives as well
[04:59] <ninjaslim> OSS4 is a far better sound system than ALSA considering how many band-aids alsa has needed to get it's kind of functionality
[05:00] <maco> design sure...but its range of hardware support is rather limited
[05:00] <Nautilus> wth they use floating point for in a sound driver?
[05:00] <maco> Nautilus: they do in-kernel mixing
[05:00] <maco> Nautilus: the quality of the mixing is supposedly made better than alsa's dmix thanks to that floating point
[05:00] <Nautilus> still FP seems overkill
[05:01] <ninjaslim> maco: that depends on what operating system it's on, each of the BSDs have different levels ofs upport
[05:01] <Tamnakz> what about a computer that I see as a wireless connection? any chance of contacting someone via the computer? :P
[05:01] <ipatrol> How do you open emacs in jaunty?
[05:01] <maco> ninjaslim: well we're talkin about linux aren't we? more hardware is supported by alsa than oss, though on the subset of hardware supported by oss, its generally a bit better
[05:02] <ninjaslim> but anyway i don't really care about it too much right now, what i'd really like to know is if there's some sort of backup utility similar ot Time Machine/Time Slider on Mac OS X/OpenSolaris
[05:02] <felix_> !cflags
[05:02] <maco> Tamnakz: if you crack in and send a "wall" message to all users sure
[05:02] <Tamnakz> maco: more info please?
[05:02] <ninjaslim> maco: fine, i'll give you that
[05:02] <maco> Tamnakz: i am not teaching you how to crack into someone's machine
[05:02] <maco> Tamnakz: that is illegal
[05:02] <felix_> CFLAG is the environment variable that i must set up to cross compiling?
[05:02] <Tamnakz> I didn't know what you meant?!?
[05:02] <ninjaslim> but it's one thing to support any and all hardware and to support any and all hardware and do it well
[05:02] <zefyx> anyone use tf-b4rt's nzb feature? i upload a nzb & nothing happens (it simply refreshs to index page after nzb upload finishes) & i see "no file in file-upload" in the activity log.
[05:03] <jmazikowski> maco: I'll have to check out the hardware... thanks!
[05:03] <Steil> im having problems
[05:03] <Steil> can someone help me?
[05:03] <IdleOne> Tamnakz, it's over kill. use the connection. not like you would be the first person to use a neighbors internet
[05:03] <maco> ninjaslim: you can support all hardware somewhat or some hardware well, but all well...? nahhh
[05:03] <Nautilus> can i copy a 2nd hd with ubuntu to an unused partition on the 1st (XP) HD ?
[05:03] <Tamnakz> idleone: it's come and go, I'd rather find out who it is, give 'em ten bucks a month, and use my share
[05:03] <di||itante> Nautilus: yes
[05:04] <maco> ninjaslim: realistically, the hardware manufacturers make it impossible to distinguish many pieces of hardware so the drivers cant know what to do in some cases. there will be 10 devices that all claim to be the same thing and arent
[05:04] <Nautilus> di||itante: any outline for 'how' for me?
[05:04] <Steil> Tamnakz: is it a router? connect to it, change the settings on it and :)
[05:04] <maco> ninjaslim: in windows, they get around it by supplying separate drivers with the hardware instead of trying to have a generic driver
[05:05] <ctmjr> Tamnakz: when you connect to someone else's wifi if they know what they are doing they can see everything you do including bank accounts and passwords
[05:05] <Tamnakz> steil: Could, but won't
[05:05] <di||itante> Nautilus: there are different ways... Is the space on the XP drive larger than the Ubuntu drive?
[05:05] <ninjaslim> maco: true, but anyway it can be done https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[05:05] <maco> ninjaslim: personally id use rdiff if i wanted incrementals, by the way
[05:05] <maco> ninjaslim: but i suppose you want a gui thing?
[05:05] <Tamnakz> ctmjr: I have a program from my brother that'll get me into most secured routers, doesn't mean I'll do it
[05:05] <maco> ninjaslim: yeah i know it can be done...just not recommended
[05:05] <Nautilus> di||itante: yes
[05:06] <maco> ninjaslim: may i pm?
[05:06] <ninjaslim> maco: yes go for it
[05:07] <spo> in /etc/fstab, for my mount point i cannot put "/media/New Directory"  i have to put /media/New\040\Directory    "\040"  means space in ascii ?
[05:07] <di||itante> Nautilus: thats good... Ok, do you want the same partition size to carry over or do you want to use all the space on the XP drive?
[05:07] <Nautilus> dill: dont care, either way
[05:07] <Nautilus> err, di||
[05:07] <di||itante> Nautilus:
[05:08] <di||itante> Nautilus: ok, then recreate the exact partitions on the empty space as they exist on the ubuntu drive
[05:08] <spo>  is user2 part of group user2 even though  my /etc/group file says  user2:x:1002:      (without user2 being behind the last :)
[05:08] <Nautilus> di||itante: simple one partition install of ubuntu
[05:08] <di||itante> Nautilus: You can get those exace specs with fdisk
[05:08] <Nautilus> di||itante: follow so far
[05:09] <di||itante> Nautilus: Once you make an identical partition, then boot to a live Linux cd and use "dd" to copy the ubuntu install to the new partition on the XP drive
[05:10] <cretsiah>  hi any1 know how or where i can check if a port is open and how to open it if it s not?
[05:10] <ctmjr> Tamnakz: i did not say anything about hacking the wep key i said if you connect to someone else's wifi they can see what you do on the internet,
[05:10] <afed> does anyone know if president obama uses ubuntu
[05:10] <bazhang> !ot | afed
[05:10] <Nautilus> di||itante: gotcha. next thing is grub... I think thats on the ubuntu HD
[05:11] <afed> !language | bazhang
[05:11] <ebtek220> that's a good question afed...
[05:11] <bazhang> afed, please take chat elsewhere
[05:11] <afed> !ot | bazhang
[05:11] <ebtek220> i often wonder how much money would be saved if the gov would use open source
[05:11] <di||itante> Nautilus: Yes, you can decide to replace the windows boot loader or config it to boot the Ubuntu partition as an option
[05:12] <thiebaude> ebtek220, offtopic, but alot
[05:12] <bazhang> afed, stay on topic
[05:12] <afed> i think irssi has a bug in it
[05:12] <xobile> I installed Ubuntu 9.04 onto a SATA drive connected to a VIA PCI card.. I don't think the VIA PCI card/drive is recognized on boot though.. is there any way to boot to Ubuntu in this case?
[05:12] <di||itante> Nautilus: also, dont blow the original ubuntu partition till you get it working
[05:13] <Nautilus> di||itante: yea, for sure
[05:13] <afed> whatever you did to me made the window for this channel disappear without any message that i was kicked or whatever
[05:13] <Nautilus> di||itante: thanks
[05:13] <di||itante> Nautilus: depending on size, dd will take some time
[05:13] <pyhacker> What's a good screen recorder for ubuntu?
[05:13] <Nautilus> di||itante: np, relatively small.
[05:14] <bazhang> !screencast | pyhacker
[05:14] <JACKSU> looking for someone good with graphics/monitor configurations, need some help getting ubuntu to recognize all refresh rates for my monitor, currently i only have the option to use 75
[05:15] <Nautilus> di||itante: any tips on what the dd command line would look like? special options etc?
[05:15] <pyhacker> ubottu: thanks! do you know which one is the fastest? I tried recordmydesktop and it was extremely slow and laggy. And my computer is pretty fast.
[05:15] <rashed2020> Guys, how insecure is IMAP? Is it REALLY important to use SSL when possible?
[05:16] <afed> rashed2020: yes
[05:16] <di||itante> Nautilus: dd if=/source/to/copy of=/dest/of/part
[05:16] <rashed2020> Bah..
[05:16] <afed> if you don't use SSL you're sending your auth info and email in cleartext
[05:17] <JACKSU> anyone? :(
[05:17] <Nautilus> di||itante: thanks again. have saved, will absorb tomorrow
[05:17] <di||itante> Nautilus: gl
[05:17] <rashed2020> afed: Would you mind trying to connect to a server and letting me know if the certificate works? When I try connecting it says it has expired but the provider insists it's still valid.
[05:17] <dreamborn> if i delete a partition with ubuntu or kubuntu on it will htat also delete the option to boot into it at startup?
[05:18] <ebtek220> yes i think so
[05:18] <rashed2020> dreamborn: No, to delete the option you have to remove it from /etc/grub/menu.lst
[05:18] <di||itante> dreamborn: no
[05:18] <afed> rashed2020: perhaps it just isn't trusted by your client
[05:18] <spo>  is user2 part of group user2 even though  my /etc/group file says  user2:x:1002:      (without user2 being behind the last :)
[05:19] <afed> rashed2020: if it hasn't reach its expiration date then that's what has to be wrong with it, so you just need to confirm the fingerprint of the certificate and manually install it on your client
[05:19] <di||itante> dreamborn: unless that deleted partition has the /boot dir on it
[05:19] <rashed2020> afed: Thanks man.
[05:19] <dreamborn> ok i'll check
[05:20] <unl0ck> i need help with my ubuntu
[05:20] <unl0ck> im new user
[05:20] <rockg> hello
[05:20] <rockg> = =
[05:20] <afed> Unlike many older Internet protocols, IMAP natively supports encrypted login mechanisms. While IMAP servers can be configured to permit plain-text transmission of passwords, RFC 3501 mandates support for authentication methods which avoid this vulnerability. It is possible to encrypt IMAP traffic using Transport Layer Security (SSL), either by tunneling IMAP communications over SSL on port 993, or by issuing the STARTTLS command ...
[05:20] <afed> ... within an established IMAP session (see RFC 2595).
[05:20] <afed> ok there is that
[05:21] <afed> but you probably want to use SSL anyway because you want all your mail encrypted, since you probably have a ton of email with passwords and junk in it
[05:21] <rockg> what
[05:21] <unl0ck> my resolution is 800x600
[05:21] <rockg> ?
[05:21] <unl0ck> i want 1024x628
[05:22] <Nautilus> afed: I prefer rfc 2549
[05:22] <afed> !ot | Nautilus
[05:22] <dreamborn> every time i go to the display settings my computer gets real slow and won't load the window
[05:22] <Nautilus> actually i meant 1149 ;)
[05:24] <unl0ck> anybody help me?
[05:24] <JACKSU> Looking for some help forcing refresh rates, please someone help a linux noob! :D
[05:26] <ctmjr> unl0ck: look in your main menu then sysytem / administration / hardware drivers and see if there is an option for graphics card
[05:26] <mralexandro> hi all! :)
[05:27] <unl0ck> how i can to back diretory in console?
[05:27] <ipatrol> Wikipedia just reaches 3 million articles!
[05:28] <mralexandro> anyone know where i could get help with vmware for linux, i have it installed. i have it started and i have my copy of xp installed, but i have a problem configuring the arrows on my keyboard, as they act as ctrl win alt del
[05:28] <dreamborn> every time i go to the display settings my computer gets real slow and won't load the window
[05:29] <zer0ne> unl0ck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087&highlight=can%27t+select+text
[05:30] <unl0ck> thx
[05:31] <DasEi1> unl0ck: I done myself an alias for dash, if you want to can look it up
[05:32] <Magliadoro> I have a query: Do you think that the manufacturers will ever make hardware that is dependent on a particular OS?
[05:33] <munk> hey guys, in bash script ${i/.MPG} will remove the .MPG extension from the file path in "i". But "i" contains the directory path too. How can I get ONLY the file name?
[05:33] <hackulator> well, in america that would probably be some sort of antitrust violation
[05:33] <etyrnal> what's the proper syntax, to use apt-get to dowload the sources for Ubuntu server 9 ?
[05:33] <DasEi1> Magliadoro: tgere are saamples of it, but's ot here (#ubuntu-offtopic and others
[05:33] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Magliadoro: I lot of hardware is dependant on only Windows.
[05:33] <Magliadoro> I thought Ubuntu was an OS?
[05:33] <hackulator> it is
[05:33] <bazhang> let's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:33] <Magliadoro> Ok
[05:34] <Magliadoro> ok
[05:34] <unl0ck> i find the drive of my board.... is .run.. how can i install it?
[05:35] <DasEi1> unl0ck:you got a *. run file (graphics)?
[05:36] <hackulator> I just switched from windows to ubuntu, and I used gparted to partition my drive and then edited /etc/fstab....I have to make a directory witht he mount point I'm using for hte new mount correct?
[05:36] <unl0ck> yes
[05:36] <DasEi1> hackulator: yes
[05:36] <unl0ck> the display drive
[05:36] <DasEi1> !who | unl0ck
[05:36] <DasEi1> unl0ck:nvidia ?
[05:36] <MadGirl> i think nvidia is basically fully closed source
[05:37] <unl0ck> !DasEil hi