[00:00] <sfears> hotmail server is proally pop.hotmail.com
[00:00] <sfears> incoming pop server under kontact prefs = pop.hotmail.com
[00:00] <ardchoille> I always thought you needed to pay a fee for pop access with hotmail
[00:00] <Flare183> not with hotway
[00:00] <sfears> maybe
[00:00] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[00:00] <Flare183> and hotwsmtp
[00:00] <Flare183> hotsmtp
[00:00] <Flare183> sorry
[00:01] <Flare183> !hotway
[00:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotway - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:01] <Flare183> !info hotway
[00:01] <ubotu> hotway: POP3 to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.8.4-2.2 (gutsy), package size 54 kB, installed size 192 kB
[00:01] <ardchoille> Flare183: Try !info hotway
[00:01] <ardchoille> yeah
[00:01] <Flare183> just did
[00:01] <Evil_> sfears: what would happen if I didn't unmount it and shutdown?
[00:01] <sfears> should unmount automatically.. you will need to remount on startup
[00:02] <ardchoille> Evil_: file systems get unmounted during shutdown anyway
[00:02] <sfears> it's a good idea to unmount drives while your not using them though
[00:02] <sfears> mabey not a good idea to unmount.. but not a bad idea
[00:03] <sfears> if it loses power for some reason in the middle of doing something could corrupt some files.. should really worry about it though
[00:03] <sfears> shouldn't*
[00:03] <Jyzygzel-> why won't the sounds work in any of the KDE games
[00:03] <sfears> shouldn't worry about it
[00:03] <ardchoille> sfears: The journal should help with that
[00:03] <Jyzygzel-> or any game i play
[00:03] <Jyzygzel-> sounds dont work
[00:03] <Kingzar> My harddisk can be accesed!
[00:04] <dany> sfears: do u know how to enable "focus on mouse" ?
[00:04] <sfears> good to hear Kingzar
[00:04] <Kingzar> can't!
[00:04] <rance> !32firefox
[00:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32firefox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:04] <sfears> nope.. not sure what that is
[00:04] <Kingzar> sorry can't
[00:04] <Kingzar> damn tildes
[00:04] <dany> is a way of window configuration
[00:05] <ardchoille> dany: Something like "focus follows mouse"?
[00:05] <dany> that you don't need to activate the window with a click..
[00:05] <dany> yeah
[00:05] <dany> I want that!
[00:05] <dany> how?
[00:05] <dany> =)
[00:05] <sfears> compiz has a setting like that in there somewhere i think
[00:05] <sfears> mouse focus or whatever.. in compiz
[00:06] <ardchoille> dany: alt+f2, type in kcontrol
[00:06] <Kingzar> $logfile indicates unclean shutdown (0,0) this is my message when i try to enter
[00:07] <ardchoille> dany: In kcontrol, go to Desktop > Window Behaviour and have a look at the Focus > Policy
[00:07] <NDPTAL85> Can you actually install from the Kbuntu KDE 4 LiveCD?
[00:08] <sfears> can you install kubuntu from the kubuntu live cd?? is that your question? if so the answer is yes
[00:09] <Jyzygzel-> why can't i hear any sounds??
[00:09] <NDPTAL85> Yeah thats my question but this isn't the regular Kubuntu live cd. Its the one with KDE 4 on it
[00:09] <NDPTAL85> I loaded the CD fully and didn't see an option to install
[00:09] <sfears> there should be an install icon on the desktop
[00:10] <NDPTAL85> There wasn't
[00:10] <sfears> you booted from the cd?
[00:10] <NDPTAL85> Yes
[00:10] <Evil_> sfears: I can't download SP2 from linux, need IE
[00:10] <NDPTAL85> I could see the lovely KDE 4 desktop
[00:10] <sfears> anyone know where the install file is on the live cd? i'm not sure
[00:11] <ardchoille> sfears: He means the KDE4 RC2 livecd
[00:11] <sfears> SP2 Evil_?
[00:11] <Evil_> Service pack 2
[00:11] <sfears> ohhh
[00:11] <martijn81> NDPTAL85: you have downloaded the lastest kde4 RC2 live-cd, this release does not come with installation support
[00:11] <sfears> service pack 2 is for windows
[00:11] <sfears> it's an XP upgrade
[00:11] <dany> haha thks 4all ardchoille
[00:11] <ardchoille> dany: yw :)
[00:11] <Evil_> Someone told me to download it to the partition and install it before the network drivers
[00:11] <NDPTAL85> martijn81: Ahhh. So I have to install regular Kubuntu and then install KDE 4?
[00:11] <Evil_> I thought you did, lol, sorry
[00:12] <Evil_> umm, wrong place >.>
[00:12] <Evil_> lmao
[00:12] <sfears> nope.. that's completely windows
[00:12] <ardchoille> NDPTAL85: There's a link in the topic
[00:12] <Evil_> wrong person for that matter LMFAO
[00:12] <killermach> the adept updater fails to install Gutsy to my Fiesty machine, some core dump regarding debconf,
[00:13] <martijn81> NDPTAL85: currenty: yes
[00:13] <killermach> last update I did from Edgy to Fiesty someone gave me a command line to upgrade which worked..can someone help me w/ this? thanks
[00:13] <BluesKaj> Evil_, gotta be in windows to DL XP-SP2
[00:14] <ardchoille> killermach: If you do it from command line, you'll end up missing things which are new t Gutsy but weren't in Feisty
[00:14] <Evil_> No way to get it to the NTFS partition from livecd? :(
[00:15] <BluesKaj> Evil_ never heard of such a thing ...MS doesn't take kindly to browsers or DLmanagers on linux
[00:15] <Jyzygzel-> why apt-get install iceweasel not work?
[00:15] <killermach> ardchoille: ok.. I have 7.10 CDROM, can do a full install, but I need some pointers on migrating my current settings to the new install..any tips?
[00:15] <Jyzygzel-> i need a browser
[00:15] <Evil_> lol, k, thanks for all the help guys :)
[00:16] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, use konqueror
[00:16] <martijn81> Jyzygzel-: there is firefox
[00:16] <Evil_> BluesKaj:  I need ActiveX
[00:16] <Jyzygzel-> ic
[00:16] <ardchoille> killermach: What I did was back up $HOME and then copy desired files back into the new system. Seemed to work ok here.
[00:17] <dylan_> killermach: make sure you use the same user and group ID (not just name) on your new system for each user, or you'll have a lot of difficulty in transferring things.  create the users in the same order and you should generally have identical UID/GIDs.
[00:17] <BluesKaj> Evil_ if ya wanna play activeX platform games , do it on a windows installed partition
[00:18] <Kingzar> can you setup Kontact with hotmaiL!?>?
[00:20] <BluesKaj> Kingzar, set hotmail to send your hotmail email to k-mail ...It's easy to do with gmail , but I've never used hotmail
[00:20] <martijn81> Kingzar: i believe only if you sign up for a paid service
[00:21] <BluesKaj> who would pay for hot mail anyway ?
[00:21] <martijn81> there was a tool for it under windows though, libpopper3 or something like that,  can't remember anymore....
[00:21] <killermach> ardchoille: thanks
[00:21] <Kingzar> alright i read some google too you have to pay indeed for pop3
[00:21] <ardchoille> killermach: yw
[00:21] <martijn81> indeed, there is gmail
[00:21] <killermach> dylan_: cool, make the users in the same order.. got it
[00:21] <Kingzar> so whats by far the best Clock widget?
[00:21] <Kingzar> kclock?
[00:21] <BluesKaj> nope Kingzar , not true
[00:22] <abdulla> BluesKaj, i have hotmail , and what can i do now everybody knows my hotmail if i change services just to recieve my email to evoloution or thunderbird i would lose all my friends
[00:22] <ardchoille> !info styleclock | Kingzar
[00:22] <ubotu> kingzar: styleclock: a themeable replacement for KDE's clock applet. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 272 kB, installed size 684 kB
[00:23] <dylan_> killermach: ive had nightmarish situations trying to transfer files but also wonderfully simple ones when i followed that rule.  also make _sure_ you dont put them on a non-linux filesystem for backup if you want to preserve the permissions - otherwise everything will be executable, and youre lucky if thats the only issue you have.
[00:23] <Jyzygzel-> how do i map my mouse thumb button to do stuff?
[00:23] <abdulla> is theyr a way to transfer ? BluesKaj ? or maybe tell me if i can get hotmail to my thunderbird app ?
[00:24] <killermach> dylan_: a "non-linux system"? people still have those?? :)
[00:24] <abdulla> Jyzygzel-, you want to make the side buttons for back forward in firefox right?
[00:25] <Jyzygzel-> yea
[00:25] <dylan_> killermach: some of us play games, you know.  wine and cedega arent up to par for most of em.
[00:25] <Jyzygzel-> i have to find them to Alt + Left + Left
[00:25] <Jyzygzel-> and Right
[00:25] <PasteL>  OpenArena rooooooooox
[00:25] <Jyzygzel-> i jsut don't know how
[00:25] <abdulla> Jyzygzel-, i dunno if theyr is an app to do this , but i was wondering myself , i think the only binding place for things like mouse keyboard will be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , go fo kdesudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:25] <dylan_> killermach: and watch out, cuz external hard drives come formatted fat32, even if theyre WAY too big for the fat32 specification.  they just force format em.  :-P
[00:26] <Jyzygzel-> nah it does not work
[00:26] <ardchoille> PasteL: And it's in the repos :)
[00:26] <abdulla> PasteL, OpenArena is multiplayer?
[00:26] <killermach> dylan_: yep just showed my cousin how to setup world of warcraft  on wine.. well actually we googled up an ubuntu forum :)
[00:26] <Jyzygzel-> the xorg.conf if complete waste of time
[00:26] <Jyzygzel-> u never know what to write there
[00:26] <dylan_> killermach: hows the performance, compared to on windows on the same comp?
[00:26] <abdulla> i know but i guess if you google you will know , i havent googles yet im lazy about this issue since 8 months now
[00:26] <ardchoille> Jyzygzel-: There is a nice cinfigurator to help with xorg.conf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:26] <abdulla> ardchoille, OpenArena similar to Quake3 CPMA?
[00:27] <dylan_> killermach: ie whats the fps in shattrath?  ;)
[00:27] <killermach> dylan_: good advice.. I reformat mine ext3 to avoid infections  from peoples winboxes
[00:27] <ardchoille> abdulla: No idea
[00:27] <Jyzygzel-> but it wont configure my mouse buttons
[00:27] <abdulla> how many MB? ardchoille
[00:27] <ardchoille> Jyzygzel-: Ah, ok.
[00:27] <dylan_> killermach: its also good for privacy since windoze doesnt recognize even ext2 ^.^
[00:27] <BluesKaj> hotmail doesn't do forwarding and pop , then keep your hotmail if you don't want to lose your contacts ...it's not so hard to bookmark your hotmail acct on om your browser toolbar
[00:27] <ardchoille> abdulla: apt-cache policy openarena
[00:27] <hdevalence> how do I tell konqueror to not play music or animations?
[00:28] <ardchoille> hdevalence: On websites?
[00:28] <hdevalence> ardchoille: Yeah.
[00:28] <killermach> dylan_: well it would not be a fair comparison, he went from a celeron 900Mhz 512MB w/ winxp home, to Kubuntu Gutsy on an X2 dual core 4100+ 2.1Ghz w/ 2GB RAM, so it runs better period :)
[00:29] <abdulla> ardchoille, apt-cache search / policy havent shown me the file zie
[00:29] <ardchoille> hdevalence: Sounds lke you may have flash installed
[00:29] <BluesKaj> flash and java
[00:29] <hdevalence> ardchoille: It's not flash
[00:29] <abdulla> who played OpenArena here?
[00:29] <abdulla> is itmultiplayer?
[00:29] <ardchoille> abdulla: apt-cache show openarena
[00:29] <killermach> dylan_: I use knoppix to get files off winbox to external HD then a read only ext2 driver for winbox to xfer files back to winbox from ext hd
[00:29] <hdevalence> it's animated GIFs and an mp3 file
[00:30] <BluesKaj> I tried it for 10mins one day
[00:30] <dylan_> killermach: what RO driver?  got a link?
[00:30] <ardchoille> hdevalence: Not sure on gif's and mp3's
[00:30] <abdulla> does it have online play BluesKaj
[00:30] <BluesKaj> yup
[00:30] <dylan_> killermach: and in case you didnt know ubuntu 7.10 has built-in RW support to FAT32/NTFS :)
[00:30] <killermach> cool
[00:31] <abdulla> check out my desktop guys :) http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img33
[00:31] <theunixgeek> What distro has the default GNOME desktop and apps without customization?
[00:31] <BluesKaj> <----not a gamer , but it seemed cool enuff, abdulla
[00:31] <Kingzar> how do you enable kweather
[00:31] <dor0> here we go
[00:31] <Kingzar> on desktop?
[00:31] <dor0> yeah, thats much better
[00:31] <BluesKaj> theunixgeek, ubuntu
[00:31] <theunixgeek> BluesKaj: without customization
[00:31] <dor0> Konversation is better that xchat, at least thats my opinion
[00:32] <dylan_> theunixgeek: slackware :-P
[00:32] <BluesKaj> what do you mean customization ?
[00:32] <ardchoille> Kingzar: Right click the panel, choose Add applet to panel, find the Weather Service applet and add it
[00:32] <theunixgeek> By no customization, I mean having this as the default desktop look: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/figures/rnintroduction-screenshot.png
[00:33] <ardchoille> Kingzar: Sorry, it's weather report
[00:33] <BluesKaj> gnome is gnome , you choose your apss afterwards
[00:33] <BluesKaj> apps
[00:33] <Kachna> hey guys,anyone ran WoWarcraft on intel graphics?
[00:33] <abdulla> i think he means Xubuntu BluesKaj  theunixgeek www.xubuntu.org
[00:33] <theunixgeek> abdulla: nono By no customization, I mean having this as the default desktop look: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/figures/rnintroduction-screenshot.png
[00:34] <abdulla> this is not default theunixgeek
[00:34] <BluesKaj> I see , he thinks gnome is a customized desktop :)...ahh Okaaaaay
[00:34] <theunixgeek> abdulla: yes it is, according to the GNOME website :P
[00:34] <BluesKaj> you can customize it
[00:34] <abdulla> not default theunixgeek but he changed hes appearance yes its with the system
[00:35] <abdulla> but if you want to customize you can from gnome-look.org
[00:35] <BluesKaj> theunixgeek, ten you should be chatting in #xubuntu
[00:35] <theunixgeek> BluesKaj: Xubuntu? why? :P
[00:35] <ardchoille> or #ubuntu
[00:35] <theunixgeek> ardchoille: I was already there.
[00:35] <theunixgeek> no help :P
[00:35] <Kingzar> How do you set it on your desktop as a widget instead of in my taskbar?!?
[00:36] <dany> werep
[00:36] <abdulla> check out my desktop guys :) http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img33
[00:36] <theunixgeek> http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/ this is the default GNOME desktop. What distro has that as the default?
[00:36] <ardchoille> theunixgeek: This channel isn't really set to help with the gnome desktop. if you didn't get help in #ubuntu, try the ubuntu forums.
[00:36] <abdulla> :P
[00:36] <theunixgeek> ardchoille: sorry; I've been trying all around :P
[00:37] <Kingzar> damn your desktop looks nice
[00:38] <Kingzar> can you tell me your widgets?
[00:38] <Kingzar> abdulla:
[00:38] <abdulla> get them they are screenlets Kingzar
[00:38] <ardchoille> !info screenlets
[00:38] <ubotu> Package screenlets does not exist in gutsy
[00:38] <Kingzar> their names?
[00:38] <abdulla> Kingzar, do you have screenlets?
[00:39] <ardchoille> Kingzar: I know that there are several weather and system themes for superkaramba
[00:40] <abdulla> is superkaramba like screenlets ardchoille
[00:40] <abdulla> btw ardchoille do you use katapult?
[00:40] <BluesKaj> windows desktops mostly
[00:40] <ardchoille> Kingzar: http://tinyurl.com/2z3x2k
[00:41] <abdulla> Kingzar, all the custom widgets you will find here http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=165&PHPSESSID=b5b2c7f0486054630e4ece0eea31ded6
[00:41] <ardchoille> abdulla: superkaramba is very similar to those screenlets, yes
[00:41] <abdulla> Kingzar, if you dont have screenlets , get screenlets after that you can go for custom widgets
[00:42] <abdulla> Kingzar, http://www.screenlets.org/
[00:42] <abdulla> you use katapult ardchoille
[00:42] <abdulla> ?
[00:42] <ardchoille> abdulla: No
[00:42] <abdulla> do you knwo what it is arch
[00:42] <Kingzar> i have superkaramba but i can't configure settings there :S
[00:42] <abdulla> ardchoille,
[00:42] <ardchoille> abdulla: yes, but I do't use it
[00:42] <abdulla> then Kingzar get screenlets read my above posts i have posted 2 links now
[00:43] <Kingzar> my taskbar doesn allow me to move the panels arround whatś mixed
[00:44] <Kingzar> what would be a good site for widgets for superkaramba?
[00:45] <Daemon--> whats that 3d program that has cool 3d effects for the desktop?
[00:45] <cheguevara> compiz
[00:45] <Daemon--> thats it, thanks, i can install it through my package manager i presume?
[00:46] <kub^> daemon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion is a nice guide
[00:46] <Daemon--> thank you :)
[00:46] <cheguevara> !compiz
[00:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:46] <abdulla> Kingzar, http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38
[00:47] <ardchoille> Kingzar: http://tinyurl.com/2z3x2k
[00:48] <abdulla> lol an apple fraud
[00:48] <ardchoille> lol
[00:48] <abdulla> i think you can do it better ardchoille
[00:48] <blizzzek> gn8
[00:48] <abdulla> you know with gnome you can hack the panel to act like apple , can kde do the same or you just tick the MAC os X feature?
[00:49] <ardchoille> abdulla: Yes, I use the feature of kde
[00:49] <Kingzar> i cannot seem to move my systray around.. is there a reason for this?
[00:49] <abdulla> so its still not 100 % yet
[00:50] <ardchoille> Kingzar: Just to the left of the systray, there should be a small bar that you can grab and move the systray
[00:50] <Kingzar> problem is it doesn appear
[00:50] <abdulla> if you tried apple .. you will know what i mean, but if you tried a Gnome hacked panel ( apple customization ) you will not notice
[00:51] <ardchoille> Kingzar: right click the panel, configure panel > appearance > Advanced options button > Applet handles
[00:52] <Kingzar> thatś it! thank you
[00:52] <ardchoille> yw
[00:55] <dany> ardchoille: do u know a mixer software ?
[00:56] <Kingzar> My superkaramba widgets only stay on 1 desktop of the cube
[00:56] <Kingzar> how can you set it to be fixed on all four
[00:56] <ardchoille> dany: I don't use sound, but I know there is mkix or alsamixer
[00:56] <ardchoille> *kmix
[00:59] <dany> ardchoille: there is the thing.. i downloaded a mixer software but there are several files and I'm suppouse to compile them but, there are few development tools that I should have in order to compile the software (sorry about my english)
[00:59] <dany> may I paste the list here?
[01:00] <ardchoille> !pastebin | dany
[01:00] <ubotu> dany: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <dany> ardchoille: I already paste it..
[01:05] <ardchoille> dany: Can you give me the link please?
[01:05] <dany> http://bpmdj.yellowcouch.org/setup.html
[01:06] <Kingzar> My superkaramba widgets only stay on 1 desktop of the cube how can you set it to be fixed on all four
[01:07] <ardchoille> dany: I'm afraid I can't help with comiling software, I haven't had to do it i years
[01:07] <linuxmce> I have a couple of sata drives I am wanting to add.  Not sure what setting to use for them.
[01:08] <godzero> How do I revert to konqueror as my file manager? If I click on a folder, or plug in my MP# player - dolphin launches. I hate it. I want my Konqi back.
[01:08] <dany> is for advanced users?
[01:08] <linuxmce> They will be part of my linuxmce box - do I make the EXT3?
[01:09] <godzero> MP# = MP3. oops
[01:09] <Kingzar> Is it possible to keep my widgets on all of my desktops?
[01:09] <Kingzar> if i go to another desktop
[01:09] <Kingzar> widget gone
[01:10] <linuxmce> When adding new SATA drives what type should they be? EXT3?
[01:11] <godzero> I'd use ext3, only because it's stable and well supported.
[01:11] <linuxmce> What about the mnount point? Just \
[01:12] <godzero> linuxmce: Sorry. I steped in in the middle of your question. What is you user case?
[01:12] <linuxmce> I added two sata drives to a LinuxMCE box - just going to use them for storage for audio / video
[01:13] <godzero> I'd mount them in /mount or /mnt
[01:13] <wintermute_> any out there have a Toshiba Satellite A215?
[01:13] <linuxmce> both of them?
[01:13] <linuxmce> as /mnt
[01:13] <linuxmce> they don't have to be different names?
[01:15] <PasteL> [22:25] <abdulla> PasteL, OpenArena is multiplayer?
[01:15] <linuxmce> godzero: DO they have to be different names?
[01:15] <PasteL> hahahahahahaha
[01:16] <godzero> "/mnt/sda1 and /mnt/sda2 for example. If you have other drives that are not PATA - you might want to mount them as /mnt/sata1 and /mnt/sata2. The name is anything that makes sence to you"
[01:16] <linuxmce> ok
[01:17] <godzero> linuxmce: I use /mount/external_1
[01:18] <linuxmce> There internal drives :)
[01:18] <godzero> :)
[01:18] <linuxmce> what about the mount point though:
[01:18] <godzero> ?
[01:19] <godzero> you can mount the thing as a subdirectory in any existing directory, even /etc/my_stuff is legal
[01:20] <dor0> guys, there is any applet to show me the network connexions in tray bar like in windows?
[01:20] <godzero> brb
[01:20] <linuxmce> I guess I just don't understand. Mount Points, Type, Device - I need to put stuff in there and If  I don't  it ask me to add loops
[01:20] <wintermute_> mine already does off a fresh install
[01:29] <godzero> linuxmce: First step is to plug it in, and format it. I suggers using "qtparted" to format it. Install it. Power down. Plug in your drives. power up, login. run qtparted. Format your new drives (they should stick out like sore thumbs in the left pane). Write down thier paths (like: /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd) on a piece of paper, and come back.
[01:30] <linuxmce> The drives are plugged in and I know what they are - I just don't know how to start qtparted
[01:31] <godzero> install qtparted, alt-f2, kdesu qtparted.
[01:31] <linuxmce> I think it is installed already
[01:31] <linuxmce> or not
[01:31] <linuxmce> how do I install
[01:32] <godzero> press "ALT-F2", type "kdesu qtparted" in the box. Enter your password.
[01:33] <linuxmce> sounds the command not found
[01:33] <linuxmce> so must not be installed
[01:33] <jhutchins> Um, we're not trying to run qtparted from the drive we're working on, are we?
[01:33] <linuxmce> no
[01:33] <jhutchins> oh, good.
[01:33] <linuxmce> just tryint to install it - don't know how
[01:33] <jhutchins> linuxmce: apt-get install qtparted
[01:34] <linuxmce> ty
[01:34] <jhutchins> linuxmce: or better sudo aptitude install qtparted
[01:34] <jhutchins> You'll need sudo in any case.
[01:34] <godzero> to install: open the konsole, type "apt-get update" press enter. ***password**. Wait.  Type "apt-get install qtparted". press "y" anytime it asks.
[01:34] <jhutchins> linuxmce: So what are you installing it to?
[01:34] <jhutchins> godzero: sudo
[01:34] <godzero> ooh, sorry
[01:35] <Kingzar> anyone know how to keep widgets on background while using cube 4 faces?
[01:35] <jhutchins> I forget too, learned on other distros.
[01:35] <godzero> to install: open the konsole, type "sudo apt-get update" press enter. ***password**. Wait.  Type "sudo apt-get install qtparted". press "y" anytime it asks.
[01:35] <jhutchins> Kingzar: There's a #compiz channel.
[01:39] <godzero> jhutchins: engineer's syndrome
[01:39] <linuxmce> OK - got it installed - now do I make it an extended partition?
[01:40] <godzero> linuxmce: what do you want? 1 big space, or several smaller spaces?
[01:40] <linuxmce> Big Space - It will hold the DVDS that I rip - it's 500GB
[01:41] <godzero> primary partition (and I didn't need to know that).
[01:41] <godzero> 1 big partition
[01:41] <linuxmce> ok
[01:41] <linuxmce> and use ext3
[01:42] <godzero> yes, If only used in a Linux environment.
[01:42] <linuxmce> yes
[01:42] <godzero> ext3 it is, then
[01:42] <linuxmce> Do I have to format it after I create the partition?
[01:42] <godzero> yes
[01:43] <godzero> a few seconds is all
[01:44] <linuxmce> It is saying that it is a virtual partion
[01:44] <linuxmce> ah - nevermind -
[01:44] <linuxmce> gotta commit first :)
[01:45] <godzero> It's inside of a primary partion (I think). Id go ahead and erase the thing, and start again. I should only take a minute.
[01:45] <godzero> commit.. yes
[01:46] <jhutchins> With linux you don't need silly extended partitions.
[01:46] <godzero> So..... Does anyone know how to kill dolphin?
[01:46] <linuxmce> Thanks guys - I appreciated - just added another 900GB to my box.
[01:46] <godzero> linuxmce: sweet
[01:46] <maybeway36> I would go "killall dolphin" in the Alt+F2 window
[01:47] <linuxmce> What is that?
[01:47] <godzero> I had that comming.
[01:47] <godzero> Dolphin is the new file manager. I hate it. I want konqueror back as my primary file manager.
[01:48] <maybeway36> Alt+F2 and type "kcmshell filetypes"
[01:48] <maybeway36> w/ out quotes
[01:48] <maybeway36> Then go to inode>folder
[01:48] <maybeway36> move Konqueror to top
[01:48] <Slynderdale> I'm currently dual booting Windows and Linux. The problem is, I don't have a working CD drive with boot support. I want to reformat my current linux install and install Ubuntu/Gutsy Gibbon instead. How can I do this without a boot/live CD?
[01:48] <maybeway36> Slynderdale: try UNetBootin
[01:49] <maybeway36> or whatever its called
[01:49] <maybeway36> It's like the mini.iso Ubuntu installer w/out a CD
[01:49] <maybeway36> install it from Windows
[01:50] <godzero> maybeway36: Thanks, but inode does not have "folder"
[01:50] <maybeway36> hmm
[01:50] <godzero> kubuntu AMD64
[01:50] <maybeway36> oh its called "directory"
[01:51] <Max-P> Hi, how can I install RandR 1.2 (1.1 installed, using feisty)
[01:51] <maybeway36> Slynderdale: do inode>directory and inode>system_directory
[01:51] <maybeway36> no not you
[01:51] <maybeway36> i mean godzero
[01:51] <maybeway36> gah im so confused
[01:52] <godzero> found it. Thanks. I looked and looked....
[01:52] <maybeway36> i did that too
[01:52] <maybeway36> i like konqueror in kde3 so much better
[01:54] <godzero> the right pane is just the right-click menu, but 100X bigger, and doesn't go away. [DEL] [DEL] [DEL] [DEL]..... i'M NOT HAPPY WITH IT.
[01:55] <godzero> oops
[01:55] <godzero> caps lock too close to shift
[01:55] <dany> ardchoille: still there?
[01:56] <limac> hi
[01:56] <ardchoille> dany: yes
[01:56] <godzero> hi
[01:56] <dany> Man.! i suck haha I cant even install firefox
[01:57] <maybeway36> sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:57] <dany> x)
[01:57] <dany> i'll tr
[01:57] <dany> try*
[01:57] <maybeway36> dany: or, for more traditional install, "sudo aptitude install -R firefox"
[01:57] <maybeway36> doesn't add some GNOME integration components
[01:58] <harry> hello all
[01:58] <godzero> hey
[01:58] <harry> i have a question, can someone help me please?
[01:58] <godzero> ?
[01:58] <dany> dany@:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:58] <dany> sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[01:58] <godzero> ouch
[01:58] <limac> well, if I run a video on youtube and then another, and then another, and so on, but after a while, the firefox window doesn't respomd and i have to terminate it over and over
[01:58] <harry> i want to add more irc servers to mykonversation client (kde) how does it function?
[01:59] <limac> terminate the progam i mean
[01:59] <limac> :?
[01:59] <maybeway36> harry: press F2 and click New...
[01:59] <godzero> limac: get a faster proc?
[01:59] <harry> ok but where do i get the adress of the server?
[01:59] <Slynderdale> maybeway36: Hmm, are you familiar with UNetBootin at all?
[01:59] <ardchoille> dany: I would recommend you posting that unable to lookup  via gethostbyname() problem on http://ubuntuforums.org
[02:00] <maybeway36> not really
[02:00] <leex> kde4 rc2 session will not start (followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php)
[02:00] <maybeway36> the mini.iso i have used in the past
[02:00] <dany> i'll do it.. thks ardchoille
[02:00] <leex> anybody having probs starting a kde4 session?
[02:01] <godzero> dany: and provide your ISP and general location ("I'm in Maine" or some-such)
[02:01] <ardchoille> dany: Br sure to include asmuch info as you can, will help others help you :)
[02:02] <dany> ardchoille: this trouble about firefox is not that complicated.. may be i'm doing something wrong
[02:02] <theunixgeek> How do I access my Linux partition on a Mac?
[02:02] <Kingzar> what option do i need to add to my user, so i can acces NTFS disk?
[02:02] <ardchoille> dany: Are you able to apt-get anything?
[02:02] <dany> ardchoille: I downdloaded and extracted the tar file
[02:03] <ardchoille> dany: via an apt-get or aptitude command?
[02:03] <godzero> theunixgeek: You don't afaict. Macs don't do EXT2/3. Ant Mac-heads in the house?
[02:03] <godzero> ant
[02:03] <godzero> any
[02:04] <dany> just with "clicks"
[02:04] <adamonline45> Is there a way to restart my mouse?  The problem I have is that on wake from suspend, and possibly other times, my mouse scroll wheel doesn't work...
[02:04] <leex> worthless ...
[02:04] <dany> right click.. extract to..
[02:04] <dany> hehe
[02:04] <Kingzar> what option do i need to add to my user, so i can acces NTFS disk?
[02:04] <ardchoille> dany: What I meant is I think your package manager has issues that need to be resolved. Posting that gethostname problem on ubuntu forums might help with that.
[02:05] <dany> ardchoille: ok, I'll wait for their answer
[02:05] <dany> thks anyway
[02:05] <limac> godzero: wat do u mean?
[02:05] <dany> x)
[02:07] <adamonline45> Can someone send me a message so I can check out my highlight color?
[02:08] <Minataku> !ping > adamonline45
[02:08] <Minataku> lol
[02:08] <Minataku> adamonline45: That work?
[02:08] <Kingzar> Sooo close
[02:08] <Kingzar> what are the permissions to enter ntfs disk?
[02:08] <adamonline45> cool ty 8)  Yes, indeed ty!
[02:08] <Minataku> Sorry, I just used the bot in a fit of semi-laziness.
[02:08] <Minataku> XD
[02:08] <Minataku> adamonline45: Cool.
[02:08] <Minataku> :)
[02:08] <Minataku> 0
[02:09] <Minataku> Oops
[02:09] <Minataku> lol
[02:09] <Kingzar> nobody ?! :S
[02:09] <adamonline45> hehheh... So, are there any maKbookers here whose brains I could pick?
[02:11] <Minataku> !ntfs
[02:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[02:12] <godzero> jhutchins: How long have you been on #kubuntu (historicly)? I have been here in a few years.
[02:13] <jhutchins> Um, I'd say two or three years, probably.  Off and on.
[02:13] <jhutchins> Probably not more than two, I installed right about when Feisty came out.
[02:13] <jhutchins> Been running Linux since like RH2.1 though.
[02:14] <godzero> limac: Oh, never mind. Just a joke (lame, I guess)
[02:14] <limac> godzero; so how can I fix that problem?
[02:14] <godzero> limac: no, I don't use firefox
[02:14] <killermach> ardchoille: is there a good backup app in kubuntu  that I can use to copy my home dir to my external drive
[02:15] <limac> godzero; then wat do u suggest i use?
[02:15] <sfears> you don't need a backup app to copy your home folder
[02:15] <sfears> just copy your home folder
[02:16] <godzero> jhutchins: s/ I have been here in a few years. /  I havn't been here in a few years.  oops
[02:17] <alesan> I am getting crazy, what should I install to have the java plugin in firefox on 64bit?
[02:17] <godzero> jhutchins: Are all the devs asleep/out. Seems like they were around more back then.
[02:17] <ardchoille> killermach: I just use tar: cd /home && tar cjf /desired/path/backup.tar.bz2  $(whoami)
[02:17] <alesan> I have sun jdk, iced tea, now I am trying with j2re blackdown
[02:18] <limac> godzero: do u no, how i can enable the flash-player plugin for konqueror?
[02:19] <limac> ???
[02:19] <godzero> limac:
[02:19] <tekteen> limac: I think the command "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" does it
[02:20] <limac> but doesn't that do it for firefox?????
[02:20] <godzero> limac: The flash plugin should "just work" from what I'm told. I don't know bacause I'm running 64 bit, and I refuse to use 32 bit software. Are you using 32 or 64 bit?
[02:20] <tekteen> limac: both
[02:20] <limac> 32 bit
[02:21] <limac> how can i get the 64 bit one???
[02:21] <tekteen> it also should work for opera
[02:21] <Kingzar> !ntfs-3g
[02:21] <limac> just curious
[02:21] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:21] <tekteen> !flash64 | limac
[02:21] <ubotu> limac: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:21] <godzero> flash is 100% NOGO in 64 bit, on any platform
[02:21] <limac> tekteen: how can i get the 64 bit version of an os?
[02:22] <limac> os (operating system) :)
[02:22] <tekteen> limac: kubuntu? windows?
[02:22] <tekteen> limac: kubuntu has it online under the 32bit one
[02:22] <limac> tekteen: kubutnu
[02:23] <tekteen> limac: I answered above ^
[02:23] <Kingzar> !ntfs
[02:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[02:23] <limac> tekteeen: but how can i get the 64 bit version? online or what?
[02:23] <limac> or i cant????
[02:23] <tekteen> limac: I will give a link. do u want alternative install cd or the normal live cd?
[02:24] <limac> tekteen: normal one
[02:24] <tekteen> limac: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:24] <limac> tekteen: wat do u mean by "alternative install cd"?
[02:25] <tekteen> limac: there is a text based install cd
[02:25] <godzero> limac: First, you have to make sure your proc can do 64 bit. But the big question is "why would you want to?". I do because I'm like that. Third party support is better in a 32 bit environment.
[02:25] <ardchoille> limac: The alternate cd is a text-based install cd, the dekstop cd is a live environemnt with an option to install to hard drive
[02:25] <limac> but i have an intel celeron m proc
[02:25] <godzero> 32 bit
[02:26] <limac> probably
[02:26] <limac> not sure tho
[02:26] <limac> actually yeah its 32 bit
[02:26] <tekteen> I am too lazy to install kubuntu again but I will not install kubuntu 64 till 7.10
[02:26] <ardchoille> limac: http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php
[02:26] <tekteen> :-)
[02:27] <godzero> Right now, 64 bit is a little pain-in-the-@$$. I don't mind. It could be worse, I could be running Vista 64... and I have... it's bad.
[02:27] <Kingzar> !avi
[02:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:27] <Kingzar> !xvid
[02:27] <tekteen> godzero: true
[02:28] <limac> ardchoille; i actually have that one installed! thnx for the effort tho! :D
[02:28] <tekteen> !botabuse | Kingzar
[02:28] <ubotu> Kingzar: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:29] <t3hwiz0rd> can anyone help me out with compiz fusion?
[02:29] <godzero> ubotu fortune
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <t3hwiz0rd> i've got it installed, but its not showing window decorations
[02:29] <ardchoille> !info fortune
[02:29] <ubotu> Package fortune does not exist in gutsy
[02:29] <godzero> That's just wrong
[02:29] <tekteen> !ask | t3hwiz0rd:
[02:29] <ubotu> t3hwiz0rd:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:29] <tekteen> t3hwiz0rd: install ccsm
[02:29] <ardchoille> godzero: apt-cache search fortune
[02:30] <t3hwiz0rd> cssm is installed
[02:30] <godzero> fortune | cowsay
[02:30] <tekteen> t3hwiz0rd: then click alt+F2 then type ccsm
[02:30] <t3hwiz0rd> okay its open..
[02:30] <tekteen> t3hwiz0rd: also
[02:31] <tekteen> do the same thing except type
[02:31] <tekteen> compiz --replace
[02:31] <t3hwiz0rd> i did that
[02:31] <t3hwiz0rd> still, no themes
[02:31] <tekteen> ok
[02:31] <tekteen> do u have 3d drivers?
[02:32] <t3hwiz0rd> yup, those are workin
[02:32] <tekteen> when u typed compiz --replace did the window borders diapear for a sec
[02:32] <t3hwiz0rd> yes and they never came back
[02:32] <limac> anyone here has any experience with "labtec"?
[02:32] <tekteen> ok
[02:33] <godzero> limac: not me
[02:33] <tekteen> t3hwiz0rd: install emerald
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> its installed
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> it simply has NO themes in it
[02:33] <tekteen> go to the k menu
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> k
[02:33] <tekteen> and open the emerald theme manager
[02:34] <t3hwiz0rd> open
[02:34] <t3hwiz0rd> it finally downloaded my themes
[02:34] <tekteen> t3hwiz0rd: ok
[02:34] <tekteen> can u select one?
[02:34] <t3hwiz0rd> tekteen: but its still not showing any
[02:34] <t3hwiz0rd> well its not doin anything :-(
[02:34] <t3hwiz0rd> window decs are still gone
[02:34] <limac> godzero: still i can't get the flashplayer in youtube...... there like this grayish box replacing where the video is played
[02:34] <tekteen> type alt F2 then type kwin --replace
[02:35] <t3hwiz0rd> done
[02:35] <waltercool_eee> someone know how select main screen with dual monitor??
[02:35] <tekteen> that stops compiz but lets u have windows again
[02:35] <tekteen> I am not sure what the problem is
[02:35] <jac0b> what repo do i add so I don't have to use the cd
[02:35] <root> limac: I can't help you. I don't kno
[02:35] <tekteen> t3hwiz0rd: what command did u use to install compiz
[02:36] <limac> root: no prob
[02:36] <tekteen> did u install the kde version
[02:36] <tekteen> or the default version
[02:36] <tekteen> the package compiz is for gnome
[02:36] <t3hwiz0rd> tekteen: i installed everything required from the wiki
[02:36] <root> It's good to be root.
[02:36] <t3hwiz0rd> and yes i installed compiz-kde as well
[02:36] <tekteen> ok
[02:36] <tekteen> I do not know
[02:36] <tekteen> sorry
[02:36] <limac> btw since i have a intel celeron processor, is it possible for me to replace it with intel quad-cre or perhaps dual-core
[02:36] <limac> ??
[02:37] <adamonline45> Can anyone help me understand the difference between 'styles', 'themes', 'colors', etc?  I'm trying to get my desktop lookin' how I want, but there are so many places to change things, and I'm getting weird results like dark-on-dark tabs and such...
[02:37] <tekteen> adamonline45: styles=themes
[02:37] <tekteen> adamonline45: colors are part of themes
[02:38] <tekteen> adamonline45: or sometimes may change a theme
[02:38] <ardchoille> tekteen: Not always, a theme can mean a set of styles, icons, backgrounds to form a theme in theme manager
[02:38] <hdevalence> I want to install KDE4 without installing KDE3.
[02:38] <tekteen> ok
[02:38] <hdevalence> on a fresh install
[02:38] <limac> anyine???
[02:38] <tekteen> that is how the login manager works
[02:38] <godzero> time for me to go. Take care all.
[02:38] <tekteen> hdevalence: that is hard
[02:38] <hdevalence> should I install a server, then install the kde4 packages?
[02:39] <limac> what is so great about kde4 that attrats people so much???
[02:39] <hdevalence> or would I have broken dependencies?
[02:39] <adamonline45> ahh interesting... so a theme is kind of the central place to hold all the settings, color, etc...
[02:39] <mox69_> hdevalence:  i would just not install a window manager
[02:39] <adamonline45> Thank you 8)
[02:39] <tekteen> hdevalence: not the server
[02:39] <mox69_> hdevalence: uncheck gnome / kde when you are installing
[02:39] <mox69_> kdevalence: you should boot into a console
[02:39] <mox69_> then you just command line install kde4
[02:40] <hdevalence> I have the DVD that lets you do LiveCD/text/server/etc
[02:40] <hdevalence> 'install in text mode"?
[02:40] <tekteen> hdevalence: u could install the minimal
[02:40] <mox69_> well i think that just runs the installer in text mode
[02:40] <tekteen> hdevalence: or cli mode
[02:41] <tekteen> hdevalence: then from the command line install kde4
[02:41] <ardchoille> Many people simply install the server and then build from there to custimse their install.
[02:41] <hdevalence> tekteen: good idea.
[02:41] <tekteen> hdevalence: I have never installed kde4
[02:41] <mox69_> hdevalence: i guess the server idea isnt bad, just look over what gets installed
[02:42] <db52> theres a kde 4 kubuntu alpha iso out isnt there?
[02:42] <hdevalence> tekteen: i have a version on my laptop, but it's a mess with kde3/4
[02:42] <ardchoille> db52: See the topic
[02:42] <hdevalence> and so i'm installing it on my old box
[02:42] <hdevalence> not actually that old though.
[02:42] <tekteen> ok
[02:42] <tekteen> I have no experience
[02:43] <db52> ardchoille: sorry im in kopete
[02:43] <tekteen> just giving ideas
[02:43] <ardchoille> db52: /topic
[02:43] <ardchoille> ?
[02:43] <wintermute_> what is a good c++ ide aside from anjuta?
[02:43] <hdevalence> wintermute_:
[02:43] <db52> ardchoille: i see rc2
[02:43] <hdevalence> err
[02:43] <hdevalence> !info kdevelop
[02:43] <ardchoille> wintermute_: kdevelop ?
[02:44] <ardchoille> db52: That is the latest I believe
[02:44] <tekteen> wintermute_: eclipse
[02:44] <t3hwiz0rd> !compiz
[02:44] <db52> ardchoille: gotcha
[02:44] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 8840 kB, installed size 26992 kB
[02:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:44] <t3hwiz0rd> ohh boy the bots lagging.
[02:44] <hdevalence> heh
[02:44] <ardchoille> t3hwiz0rd: He's in many channels.. and working hard :)
[02:45] <hdevalence> btw, once kde4 is released, what would be a distro where I could get a 'default' KDE4 install
[02:45] <tekteen> I think the bot deserves a snack
[02:45] <wintermute_> thank you
[02:45] <tekteen> !botsnack
[02:45] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:45] <hdevalence> ie no distro specifice customizations
[02:45] <biovore> kubuntu will have KDE4 (if released) for herron
[02:46] <ardchoille> hdevalence: I think you would be hard pressed to find a distro which doesn't customise their deksotp environments
[02:46] <hdevalence> eg kubuntu changes the konqueror interface
[02:46] <hdevalence> etc
[02:46] <ardchoille> Yeah
[02:46] <hdevalence> debian? slackware?
[02:47] <db52> anyone know how to update the adblock filters in konquerer?
[02:48] <biovore> hdevalence: theres always LFS :-P
[02:50] <hdevalence> biovore: what's LFS?
[02:51] <biovore> linux from scratch
[02:52] <db52> how stable is the rc2
[02:53] <db52> ahh im out of cds anyway
[02:55] <killermach> ardchoille: I have installed gimp, blender, inkscape ect on my fiesty box, how can I get kubuntu to install them from a script?
[02:55] <killermach> so I don't have to hand pick them all again, including their add-ons
[02:56] <ardchoille> killermach: use a bash script and add a line:  sudo apt-get install gimp blender inkscape
[02:57] <killermach> ardchoille:  is there a way to get a list of what's installed from adept or the like?
[02:57] <Rafabe> hi
[02:57] <Rafabe> can someone help me get Kubuntu installed?
[02:58] <ardchoille> killermach: You can use a command to see what you have install via command line: history | grep install
[02:58] <Rafabe> during the base install, I get an error on initramfs. It tries 5 times then continues...then I get another error later on. Checked the CD for defects, it's fine.
[02:58] <killermach> ardchoille: what I'm looking for is like the RedHat kickstart of sorts
[02:59] <ardchoille> killermach: There may be, but I am a cli fan so I wouldn't have used it.
[02:59] <killermach> ok.. cool.. I can probly pick them about as fast as figuring this out, but it'd be cool to know
[03:01] <t3hwiz0rd> okay
[03:01] <t3hwiz0rd> i got it all working
[03:01] <t3hwiz0rd> but im trying to set up desktop cube
[03:01] <t3hwiz0rd> nd when i do, it only gets 2 desktops??
[03:02] <neville> Go to general settings in the settings for Compiz
[03:02] <EnsGabe> Is anyone else having problems with konqueror and the recently updated flash plugin?  nspluginviewer keeps crashing on me
[03:02] <neville> And I think it's called Desktop size, or something like that
[03:02] <killermach> ardchoille: trying this first.. apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[03:02] <neville> You fiddle with the settings there, in order to get more than 2 faces
[03:02] <t3hwiz0rd> any ettings in specific?
[03:03] <neville> Can't remember off the top of my head, and I haven't got installed at the moment =]
[03:03] <t3hwiz0rd> cos rioght now i have a two-sided cube
[03:03] <neville> Just trial and error though, it's always fun =D
[03:05] <killermach> ardchoille: I'll let you know how it goes command line upgrade from fiesty to gutsy
[03:08] <t3hwiz0rd> hmm still 2 desktops
[03:09] <Psycoshot> Hey. What is the command to quit/stop a command?
[03:09] <Psycoshot> like to quit kiba-dock
[03:10] <cheguevara> ctrl c
[03:11] <cheguevara> assuming you are running some from a terminal that is
[03:11] <Psycoshot> What I mean is.
[03:11] <Psycoshot> I started kiba-dock. (not in terminal)
[03:11] <Psycoshot> How do I close it from terminal
[03:12] <cheguevara> killall -9 kiba-dock
[03:12] <Psycoshot> TY
[03:12] <cheguevara> np
[03:13] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having trouble with kopete saving changes I make.  For example, when I add someone to my contact list, the next time I restart that person is added to a folder "Not in your contact list", and keeps going back even if I move them to a folder and make sure they're on my list... can anyone help me out?
[03:18] <t3hwiz0rd> yay
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> Ch1ppy- is it an MSN contact?
[03:18] <Ch1ppy> Dragnslcr: yep
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> I know there's a bug with not being able to remove an MSN contact, so it may be related
[03:19] <db52> how do i disable join and leave notifications in kopete?
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> Ch1ppy- you can try checking with #kopete to see if it's a known issue
[03:19] <Ch1ppy> Dragnslcr: mkay
[03:25] <killermach> ardchoille: looks like it finished.. lemme reboot and see
[03:28] <killermach> ardchoille: so far so good
[03:29] <killermach> it's installing my nvidia driver now
[03:29] <killermach> restart again for that
[03:31] <ardchoille> killermike: Good to hear, but no need to keep me updated :)
[03:31] <abdulla> Check out my desktop guys and please rate http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/5/12/13/alsheeba/f_mydesktopm_582c78c.png
[03:38] <killermach> ardchoille: so far so good.. I don't care for dolphin tho.. but else is good upgrade
[03:38] <ardchoille> killermach: There is no need to keep me updated
[03:39] <EnsGabe> Is anyone else having problems with konqueror and the recently updated flash plugin?  nspluginviewer keeps crashing on me
[03:39] <intelikey> :)
[03:39] <hydrogen> dolphin took a bit of getting used to
[03:39] <hydrogen> I'm fairly happy with it though
[03:39] <hydrogen> dolphin4 is a whole lot nicer but thats a different story :)
[03:39] <intelikey> what is dolphin again ?
[03:39] <hydrogen> filemanager
[03:39] <ardchoille> !dolphin
[03:39] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[03:40] <killermach> no just you anyone wanting to know, that the upgrade is worthwhile and smooth
[03:43] <ardchoille> killermach: That's good to hear
[03:45] <capricori> hey all. could anyone guess as to why kubuntu keeps logging me out randomly? it's starting to get annoying...
[03:46] <jhutchins> I here d3lphin has been essentiallyh abandoned in place and will not be developed further.  At best, it's good ideas may be merged into konqueror.
[03:47] <jhutchins> (where'd that stray h come from?)
[03:48] <cheguevara> jhutchins, konqueror uses dolphin for file management in kde 4 so...
[03:49]  * intelikey hunts up the h remover for jhutchins
[03:49] <jhutchins> cheguevara: Yeah, from what I've heard it sounds like they reached a revision stange and realized that to get to the next step towards release just wasn't worth it.
[03:49] <cheguevara> no point of developing kde3 software anymore anyway :P
[03:50] <jhutchins> Could be apocryphal, I don't know, but I heard that it was dead stop on developing it.
[03:50] <jhutchins> cheguevara: Yeah, but d3lphin isn't kde3.
[03:50] <cheguevara> it is
[03:50] <cheguevara> d3lpin is kde3
[03:50] <cheguevara> dolphin is kde4
[03:50] <jhutchins> Ah, well it was dolphin I heard it about, not "as corrected by ubotu".
[03:51] <jhutchins> But, on the same hand, it could be that it's true of d3lphin and not dolphin, somebody got the rumor wrong.
[03:52] <Travis> Hi I just put a hard drive in my server from my older server, the data on it is in a format called LVM2 MEMBER, because my old server was LVM, I just need to get the data off it for my new server? how do I go about this?
[03:52] <cheguevara> most ppl just say dolphin talking about both of them
[03:52] <intelikey> "somebody got the rumor wrong."   surely you jest
[03:52] <cheguevara> Travis, might want to go to #ubuntu-server
[03:52] <Travis> cheguevara yea i did both cause this is the same procedure for kubuntu
[03:55] <sylvisj> hello people, I need some help with nvidia binaries
[03:55] <sylvisj> Followed the instructions as per http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/hardware/C/video.html#nvidia, but /var/log/Xorg.0.log says that the nvidia driver can't find the kernel module
[03:56] <sylvisj> or rather, "failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!"
[03:56] <jhutchins> sylvisj: There's an #nvidia channel.
[03:57] <sylvisj> Ok, will try over there.
[03:57] <sylvisj> "Ubuntu kernel module problem? Ask in #ubuntu"
[03:58] <jhutchins> Travis: This is why LVM is evil.  You need the set, not just a member.
[03:59] <intelikey> sylvisj wrong version or not compatable with the hardware.
[03:59] <sylvisj> It's compatible; GeForce 8800GTS, current stable driver release
[04:00] <sylvisj> Hm, manually unloading and reloading the nvidia kernel module fixed it, odd
[04:00] <intelikey> can't insert a kernel module that doesn't match the running kernel version, or that the hardware doesn't match     (last half is more dependant on the exact module)
[04:00] <Travis> jhutchins well i think the other drive failed or something (I don't have it)
[04:01] <sylvisj> Well, the thing is - the module was loaded
[04:01] <Travis> my task was getting the data off the one drive i do have recovered
[04:01] <sylvisj> unloading and reloading it seems to have solved this issue, which makes me wonder why
[04:01] <intelikey> race condition ?
[04:01] <neville> Try reinstalling the driver, then running sudo nvidia-xconfig -add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[04:02] <Travis> LVM seems to worked great until something went horribly wrong and the LVM got messed up, now when I mount it says it's not formatted and that i should format the LVM volume with like ext3
[04:02] <neville> --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[04:04] <ndazza> hi, i'm having trouble finding the jigdo files for the kubuntu gutsy DVD, i've googled and looked through cdimage.ubuntu.com but i'm not having any luck. does anyone know where it is?
[04:11] <ndazza> wow, dead channel...
[04:11] <stdin> it's dead because kubuntu is so perfect no one needs support :)
[04:12] <neville> =/
[04:12] <neville> Lies
[04:12] <neville> =]
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Hot, sexy bot sweet-talks personal data out of chatters  http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071214-hot-sexy-bot-sweet-talks-personal-data-out-of-chatters.html
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Hmmmm... Ok! Whos the bot!
[04:14] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:15]  * Dr_willis stares at ubotu
[04:15] <ndazza> is there a dev channel for kubuntu?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Hmm Is ther a #kubuntu-dev ?
[04:18] <ndazza> nope, i tried that heh
[04:18] <ndazza> looks like i might have found the jigdo images here http://mirror.in.th/ubuntu_cdimages/kubuntu/dvd/current/
[04:21] <stdin> ndazza: I guess you didn't look at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ ?
[04:23] <EnsGabe> Is anyone else having problems with konqueror and the recently updated flash plugin?  nspluginviewer keeps crashing on me
[04:29] <ndazza> stdin: that's for hardy, i'm looking for gutsy
[04:40] <progmanos> !find krandrtray
[04:40] <ubotu> File krandrtray found in kcontrol, kdebase-dbg, kdebase-workspace
[04:53] <rayman> there is a kubuntu channel
[04:53] <rayman> and to think i've been on freenode for awhile
[04:55] <rayman> anyone around to help answer a (hopefully easy) question?
[04:56] <stdin> ask it and see
[04:56] <rayman> horray!
[04:57] <rayman> So, I've been running kubuntu since 6.10 (nothing to  brag about, I know) on a thinkpad T42 (1.7 Pentium M, Radeon Mobility 9600..etc.). It was running fine and I even got beryl to work, although not in hardware..anyway...
[04:57] <Slynderdale> In gutsy gibbon, is there a way to keep the Ubuntu and Kubuntu applications seperate based on the current session your using?
[04:58] <rayman> when I upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 using the website instructions it seems to be running in "software" mode now even with the fglrx driver
[04:58] <edellingham> Hey guys...long time Ubuntu user, first time Kubuntu user.  I'm quite familiar with KDE, I've ran KDE off and on since way before anyone thought of Ubuntu...I must say, you guys make straight Ubuntu look bad.  I swear, although I've ran Ubuntu with KDE...this seems more responsive, better apps included, system is literally easier to use by the way settings is placed...
[04:58] <edellingham> Very, very impressed...
[04:58] <rayman> pictures are scrambled and it runs insanely slow
[04:58] <edellingham> Kubuntu should be the official release
[04:59] <stdin> rayman: you have to remove xserver-xgl, if it's installed it'll be used by default even if you don't choose it
[04:59] <sleeper> i cant upgrade from to gutsy
[04:59] <rayman> through apt?
[04:59] <Daemon--> is it possible to make the system request confirmation before deleting directories?
[05:00] <sleeper> i cant upgrade from feisty to gutsy
[05:01] <ardchoille> Daemon--: rm -i file
[05:02] <sleeper> when i look at the apt.log at the end i have this
[05:02] <sleeper> Package libc6-i686 has broken dep on libc6
[05:02] <sleeper>   Considering libc6 11936 as a solution to libc6-i686 7
[05:02] <sleeper>   Holding Back libc6-i686 rather than change libc6
[05:02] <Daemon--> i mean if i do "rm file" it automatically asks for confirmation before deleiting the file incase you dont mean to. But when I do "rm -rf directory" it doesnt request confirmation but i would like it to
[05:03] <mox69__> daemon: remove the -f ....
[05:03] <Daemon--> right, the f means no confirmation then
[05:03] <Daemon--> thanks
[05:03] <mox69__> np
[05:04] <Daemon--> :)
[05:04] <ardchoille> I've never seen rm -r ask before removing
[05:04] <mox69__> it doesnt?
[05:04] <ardchoille> Not here
[05:04] <mox69__> then do rm -ri directory
[05:05] <sparr> some systems, particularly multi-user servers, force -i on rm
[05:05] <mox69__> ahh
[05:05] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[05:06] <twylight> is there a keystroke logger for kubuntu?
[05:06] <sparr> hell, ive used systems where rm was aliased to a 'mv [whatever] /tmp/trashcan/username'
[05:14] <Dr_willis> sparr,  yep seen that befor also
[05:14] <Dr_willis> or a perl script that intercepts  bad typos :)
[05:15] <rayman> stdin: holy crap, i love you..well no, not quite that much but THANKS...oh so much, i can now enjoy kubuntu again
[05:20] <edellingham> Got a question, I've just installed Kubuntu on my system.  I went through the updates that you'd expect from installing a new distro, and then it suggested I upgrade to Gutsy 7.10...which I'm confident I'm already running. .  I told it to go ahead and it started the process and now it's at the installing point...and sitting at 0%.
[05:21] <edellingham> Is this normal?
[05:21] <mactalla> hey all.  I made the mistake of updating.  Now I'm stuck with flash 115.  Does anyone know where I can get a .deb of the previous version (.85?)
[05:21] <kakalto> 8.04 is an LTS release?
[05:22] <ardchoille> kakalto: Yes, Hardy will be the net LTS release
[05:24] <kakalto> I hope they aren't putting kde4 in it?
[05:24] <graham> Hi all. New Kubuntu user here. And new IRC user as well. Am I doing the right things here?
[05:25] <wintermute_> You are in IRC so... yeah?
[05:25] <wintermute_> Welcome aboard
[05:25] <stdin> mactalla: enable gutsy-proposed, there's an updated (working) package in there
[05:25] <stdin> kakalto: no, kde3 in the LTS
[05:26] <Tm_T> stdin ardchoille and kids o/
[05:26]  * stdin waves to Tm_T
[05:26] <mactalla> stdin: thx.  I'll try that.
[05:27]  * mactalla goes off to find how to enable gutsy-preposed
[05:27] <ardchoille> hi Tm_T
[05:29] <stdin> mactalla: in adept, Adept → Manage Repositories → Updates tab → Proposed updates
[05:30] <tehm0nk> how do i get raid0 to work on kubuntu
[05:30] <kakalto> stdin: relieving to know :-)
[05:30] <tehm0nk> i have universe and multiverse checked
[05:31] <mactalla> stdin: I don't have 'proposed' but I have recommended, pre-released, and unsupported.  but according to my sources.list I do have proposed enabled.  Unfortunately I'm still getting the newest (broken) flash.
[05:31] <tehm0nk> i got dmraid installed and mdadm
[05:31] <tehm0nk> there is one more thing i need tho and a couple commands i have to run
[05:31] <tehm0nk> and i dont know where the link to the site i just see it on went
[05:32] <tehm0nk> well it went down with my last attempt with ubuntu
[05:32] <stdin> mactalla: what version exactly?
[05:32] <stdin> !raid
[05:32] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[05:33] <tehm0nk> and there is my issue ubotu
[05:33] <tehm0nk> i can't goto the web
[05:33] <mactalla> stdin: 9.0.115 ... let me check the ubuntu versioning... one sec...
[05:33] <tehm0nk> wait omg its working this time
[05:33] <tehm0nk> i'm liking kubuntu already lol
[05:38] <mactalla> stdin: flashplugin-nonfree <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu0.7.10
[05:38] <stdin> with what browser?
[05:38] <mactalla> stdin: konqueror
[05:38] <tehm0nk> i know this sounds stupid but it's not really right there in my face on the site, how do i run something in terminal as room?
[05:38] <tehm0nk> root*
[05:38] <mactalla> stdin: if it's from proposed, you said, then  maybe I can get it back by disabling that one..
[05:38] <mactalla> tehm0nk: sudo <cmd>
[05:39] <ardchoille> !sudo | tehm0nk
[05:39] <ubotu> tehm0nk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:39] <stdin> mactalla: just removing the repository won't do anything, but after you do that just do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree=<IP_ADDRESS>.2+really0ubuntu12"
[05:40] <stdin> mactalla: I think I saw a bug somewhere about it, seems nspluginviewer doesn't like the new flash
[05:40] <Mar1ey> hello
[05:42] <mactalla> stdin: yeah, looking around it seems Adobe broke compatibility with Konq + Opera -- only testing with Firefox.
[05:43] <Mar1ey> would someone like to help me setup pppoe on kubuntu server install
[05:44] <mactalla> stdin: mmm looks like it downloaded the wrong one.  I'll try to fudge my way around it...
[05:44] <oobe> Mar1ey, why cant the router do the pppoe
[05:45] <stdin> mactalla: thinking about it, it won't matter what package you install. all it does is download the plugin from adobe and that's always the latest
[05:46] <mactalla> stdin: yeah, I see that in the url it downloaded.  So now I just need to get my paws on a good version and make sure apt-get sees that to not try downloading it.
[05:48] <Titanix88> Hey im a newbie c programmer. But im having prblm with string related functions.
[05:49] <stdin> Titanix88: ##c
[05:49] <stdin> then learn C++ and use std::string ;)
[05:51] <Titanix88>  wierd characters r appearing
[05:51] <twylight> uze prpr inglish plz
[05:51] <wintermute_> were you born in 1988 or are you a skinhead
[05:52] <stdin> I'd guess it's because your char arrays aren't null terminated, but you should really ask in ##c
[05:52] <Titanix88> The characters change as i chang encoding!
[05:52] <naelr> looking for some help compiling a new kernel for my new laptop that doesn't like any of gutsy's kernels
[05:52] <stdin> !kernel
[05:52] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[05:53] <naelr> yea been there and been sent there many times... 5 kernels later it still won't boot
[05:53] <naelr> what kernel is hardy running?
[05:54] <Titanix88> Ok,sorry for my english. All i need to know is howto set ascii encoding  in konsole.
[05:54] <stdin> same as gutsy right now
[05:54] <naelr> well that won't help
[05:54] <naelr> only kernel that boots is 2.6.20-14...
[05:54] <naelr> oops I mean 2.6.20-12
[05:55] <Titanix88> Wintermute: that was harsh!:((
[05:55] <tehm0nk> the page says to use mkfs but i get this error : mkfs.-ex3: No such file or directory
[05:55] <stdin> tehm0nk: without the dot
[05:56] <Titanix88> ##c
[05:56] <fluid> hello; anyone around? i installed the kde4rc2 packages.. and removed them; but now, kubuntu won't start... just a black screen. if i boot into recovery mood, and "startx" - it starts kde.. sometimes the monitor is jigging and jagging, but it never boots.. it just kicks you back out to a prompt; i'm guessing i need to re-install kde3, or change the default window m,anager.. anyone have any ideas??
[05:57] <tehm0nk> Oops! lol ty
[05:57] <stdin> naelr: just install that kernel and boot from it, then make sure you report a bug against linux-source-2.6.22 with a description of your hardware and your problem
[05:57] <stdin> fluid: make sure you have kdebase-bin-kde3 installed
[05:58] <tehm0nk> which filesystem should i use for Root and which for Home?
[05:58] <stdin> ext3 is probably the best for both
[05:59] <tehm0nk> ok
[05:59] <tehm0nk> weird...
[05:59] <tehm0nk> that dude has reiser on one
[05:59] <hydrogen> you know you're no longer in #gentoo when that question can be answered without five minutes of discussion
[05:59] <tehm0nk> that is why i asked
[05:59] <tehm0nk> you know you're not in #ubuntu when you actually get heard?
[05:59] <Tm_T> hydrogen: :/
[05:59] <stdin> reiser is pretty much dead now, the maintainer got into a bit o'trouble
[06:00] <tehm0nk> ahh
[06:00] <tehm0nk> okay
[06:00] <tehm0nk> well i'm sorta new and sorta freaked out
[06:00] <tehm0nk> i'm crossing my fingers that i dont kill vista :-P
[06:00] <tehm0nk> haha
[06:00] <Tm_T> vista?
[06:00] <biovore> vista is good at killing it's self..
[06:01] <foibles> hi there, would anyone know of a program that streams video?
[06:01] <biovore> doesn't need help
[06:01] <biovore> vlc
[06:01] <foibles> over the net to a friend, say
[06:01] <biovore> vlc can do it..
[06:01] <foibles> biovore: you dont say?
[06:01] <Tm_T> vlc, Kaffeine, uhm, there's others but I always forget
[06:01] <biovore> and it dosn't matter what OS.. vlc works on window,linux,mac
[06:02] <biovore> vlc is simple to do..
[06:02] <foibles> biovore, Tm_T: that is awesome
[06:02] <foibles> i was totally unaware they could do that
[06:02] <Tm_T> biovore: you are again heavy promoting vlc aren't you?
[06:02] <biovore> mplayer can do transcoding and stuff like that as well..
[06:02] <hydrogen> vlc can act as a streaming server?
[06:02] <biovore> well I use mplayer most of the time here..
[06:02] <hydrogen> I thought it was a client
[06:02] <biovore> yes
[06:02] <foibles> this is the case, i was going to watch a movie, and a friend of mine hasnt seen it
[06:03] <biovore> it can be a udp stream source..
[06:03] <foibles> i was think maybe i can stream it and we can watch it at the same time
[06:03] <hydrogen> not unless you have a big fat internetpipe
[06:03] <biovore> its 1->1 only though.. no multicast..
[06:04] <tehm0nk> hey ty guys for helping
[06:04] <tehm0nk> it took me HOURS to get where i did earlier
[06:04] <foibles> hydrogen: would it be slow for me to stream to a friend with vlc?
[06:04] <tehm0nk> to someone that doesnt know a lot about this stuff, you can read for days on google and not figure it out.
[06:05] <foibles> tehm0nk: yeah
[06:05] <tehm0nk> i was trying to do ubuntu
[06:05] <tehm0nk> and
[06:05] <tehm0nk> was in the respective channel. Bad idea.
[06:05] <tehm0nk> :-D
[06:08] <pastryness> how do i modify xorg.conf ?
[06:08] <mactalla> YES!  I have a flash that *works*!  (now, if ppl would stop making flash-only websites, life would be grand)
[06:08] <mactalla> stdin: thx for your help.
[06:08] <mactalla> Now the million-dollar question is does Adept have a feature to let me ignore an update on a single file?
[06:09] <stdin> mactalla: umm, nope :p
[06:09] <mactalla> :P  guess I need to babysit the updates until Adobe gets their butt in gear.
[06:09] <crush_groove> mactella unless im mistaken . you can go to "preview" updates abd delte the update you dont want from there
[06:10] <stdin> mactalla: aptitude will let you "hold" a pacakge
[06:10] <stdin> I think (not sure) adept will respect that
[06:10] <crush_groove> whats that command stdin ?
[06:10] <mactalla> stdin: thx.  we'll find out in a minute!
[06:10] <stdin> aptitude hold <package>
[06:10] <crush_groove>  ty
[06:11] <sigma_> my hdd light flashes every 10 sec's when the pc is idle (desktop not laptop) - i have two sata hdd's installed, is this anything to be worried about?
[06:11] <crush_groove> hdd
[06:11] <sigma_> crush_groove: was that for me?
[06:12] <fluid> how do i reconfigure kde3 to be my default windows manager.. i installed kde4, and it went horribly wrong.. i unistalled kde4, and now kde won't start...
[06:12] <sigma_> oh and my sats hard drives - the 250gb one is two days old and the 80gb one is less than a year old
[06:12] <crush_groove> sigma ./no
[06:13] <hydrogen> fluid: at kdm choose kde3 instead of kde4
[06:13] <mactalla> Adept still wants to upgrade after telling aptitude to hold it :-/  Oh well, at least it's working (for me... expect many more complaints as people get this "upgrade" sent their way!)
[06:14] <chrisduffy> Is there a way to get write access to a journaled HFS+?
[06:16] <Titanix88> Anyone know anyway around to get ascii encoding in konsole?
[06:16] <sigma_> oh has anyone here created a live cd of their current kubuntu installation? i saw a tutorial online, wondered if it would work, that would be a great tool for people doing multiple installs on the same type of machine
[06:21] <Dr_willis> im not sure the live cd makers ive seen - can do installs however.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> You could use mondo/mindo to make a bootable 'restore' disk set.
[06:27] <vasilisa> Why wont K3B rip dvds anymore? :( I used to turn it on and it would list dvd tracks, id select one and rip it. Now it plays a chord at me and flashes an error message so fast i cant see it, then simply lists the dvd's file structure. That is utterly worthless to me. Any ideas why this could be the case? Is it something to do with Gutsy??
[06:27] <Dr_willis> could be you need to install some extra packages.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Ive never used k3b to rip dvd's so cant tell ya much more then that.
[06:27] <vasilisa> :/
[06:27] <stdin> try installing movixmaker-2 and libk3b2-extracodecs
[06:28] <vasilisa> ok one sec
[06:28] <Dr_willis> 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' for a start. then proberly whatever dvd decrypter packages exist.
[06:28] <sigma_> vasilisa: do u want to rip them to avi or another dvd?
[06:28] <vasilisa> rip to avi... libk3b2-extracodecs gets no hits.
[06:29] <sigma_> vasilisa: use acidrip, its in the repo's
[06:29] <vasilisa> sigma_: acidrip's never worked for me... lets see...
[06:29] <sigma_> vasilisa: i use it, it works flawlessly
[06:29] <sigma_> vasilisa: what happened when you tried using it?
[06:30] <twylight> hmm this powder smells like cocaine
[06:30] <vasilisa> sigma_: dont remember, baout to find out probably
[06:30] <stdin> twylight: ?
[06:31] <twylight> sshh
[06:31] <vasilisa> well for one thing its not dedtecting the dv
[06:31] <vasilisa> d
[06:31] <stdin> twylight: don't post such irrelevant and stupid thing in here please
[06:31] <mactalla> Titanix88: what are you wanting with the encoding?
[06:31] <vasilisa> hehe, this is a circumstance where i have to figure out which drive it is
[06:31] <mactalla> settings->encoding not what you're looking for?
[06:31] <sigma_> vasilisa: oh is the dvd path set to /dev/dvd?
[06:32] <vasilisa> yeah
[06:32] <sigma_> vasilisa: because if it is thats probably wrong
[06:32] <vasilisa> ok i found it
[06:32] <vasilisa> Whats the best audiocodec
[06:32] <twylight> mp3
[06:33] <vasilisa> lavc okay for video?
[06:33] <sigma_> vasilisa: yup works for me, actually all the default settings work just fine
[06:33] <vasilisa> *knows nothing about this...*
[06:33] <Dr_willis> animated gif :)
[06:33] <vasilisa> okay
[06:33] <vasilisa> okay thats the problem
[06:33] <vasilisa> i quick start and it just quits
[06:34] <sigma_> vasilisa: another window should pop up
[06:34] <vasilisa> nope
[06:34] <vasilisa> but it is running in the processtable.
[06:34] <vasilisa> ... so to speak
[06:35] <vasilisa> do i have to queue it?
[06:35] <sigma_> vasilisa: when you entered your drive in the /dev/dvd space, what exactly came up when u clicked load?
[06:35] <vasilisa> A list of tracks
[06:36] <vasilisa> nothing :(
[06:37] <sigma_> did u select the long track? thats the movie
[06:37] <vasilisa> Yes, i did. track 1.
[06:37] <vasilisa> i tried running it through the command line and it doesnt even give an error
[06:38] <vasilisa> Except i did get a bunch of pango warnings
[06:39] <sigma_> rather weird, sure all the dependencies are installed properly
[06:39] <vasilisa> well im not ~sure~ no
[06:39] <vasilisa> :/
[06:39] <vasilisa> almost never have em all >.<
[06:40] <Dr_willis> its like pokemon. :) you can never have them all...
[06:41] <tehm0nk> someone wanna look at a screenshot of my install program something just doesn't look right... and it gives me an error....
[06:41] <vasilisa> ;_; i wanna riiiiip
[06:41] <vasilisa> i miss it
[06:41] <vasilisa> k3b just worked flawlessly before.
[06:41] <sigma_> how did u install acidrip?
[06:41] <vasilisa> add/remove programs
[06:41] <Dr_willis> !info acidrip
[06:41] <ubotu> acidrip: ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.14-0.2ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 63 kB, installed size 308 kB
[06:43] <sigma_> vasilisa: try using kpackage, uninstall it and download it manually from packages.ubuntu.com and install it
[06:43] <sigma_> make sure it uses kpackage to install it
[06:44] <sigma_> that will check that all dep's are properly installed
[06:44] <stdin> that's why we have gdebi
[06:44] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install acidrip      ?
[06:44] <vasilisa> i just tried that
[06:44] <stdin> just double-click a .deb and deps are checked automatically
[06:45] <sigma_> stdin: gdebi strains my poor hard drive
[06:45] <vasilisa> k i give up...
[06:46] <vasilisa> thanks guys :(
[06:46] <sigma_> stdin: sometimes i wonder what its doing, it also makes my pc's jam, amazingly only the intel ones!
[06:46] <stdin> works fine here
[06:47] <pastryness> how do i set my default applications for different tasks? for example when i click on a folder i want it to open with krusader instead of Dolphin, and when i click on links i want them to open with firefox instead of konqueror... help please
[06:47] <sigma_> stdin: does it scan the database once or everytime it runs?
[06:47] <stdin> it uses apt, so every time I install a .deb
[06:48] <sigma_> stdin: but to be honest i like the feisty package installer better, wish it could be in gutsy
[06:48] <stdin> that was just a xterm with dpkg -i :p
[06:48] <Dr_willis> thats what i was thinking. :)
[06:48] <sigma_> stdin: yeah kpackage only scans once and then remembers it
[06:49] <pastryness> nobody? :(
[06:49] <fignew> pastryness: Under System Sttings --> KDE Components you can set some of those
[06:49] <sigma_> oh yes while u guys are here, how do u edit the context menu's in konqueror? (the one that comes up when u right click)
[06:49] <fignew> pastryness: I'm wondering why you would want to use Firefox over Konqueror though ;)
[06:50] <sigma_> fignew: konq is rather hopless as i learnt
[06:50] <sigma_> hopeless
[06:50] <fignew> hopeless?!?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> I perfer firefox :)
[06:50] <sigma_> yeah can't display half the websites i visit properly
[06:51] <sigma_> but i still like it for file browsing, id use it for web as soon as it gets as mature as firefox
[06:51] <fignew> sigma_: 1 sec about the context menus, I have a bookmark
[06:51] <sigma_> ok thanks
[06:52] <fignew> that's strange... I'm an extremely heavy web browser and have abs. no problem with konq ;)
[06:52]  * fignew bets you can't give an example where konqueror fails :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Guess they test your 'special'  sites with Konqueror? :)
[06:53] <sigma_> fignew: www.axiz.co.za, try navigate that site
[06:53] <fignew> sigma_: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html and http://legroom.net/2007/04/20/adding-custom-actions-kde-context-menus
[06:53] <sigma_> thanks
[06:54] <fignew> sigma_: LOL! it looks better in konqueror than in firefox!!
[06:54] <Dr_willis> looks the same here.
[06:54] <sigma_> fignew: yeah but the menu is missing in konq
[06:54] <sigma_> or at least it should be
[06:55] <Dr_willis> The site designer needs to be slapped for making everything being in a popup/new window
[06:55] <fignew> menu works for me :/
[06:56] <Dr_willis> what menu? i see no menu
[06:56] <fignew> Dr_willis: on the top
[06:56] <sigma_> fignew: you mean the dropdown menu at the top (horizontal one) works well for you?
[06:56] <fignew> sigma_: yes
[06:57] <Dr_willis> that is missing in Konqueror here.
[06:57] <sigma_> yes thats what i was saying!
[06:57] <Dr_willis> heh, at the bottom right in konqueror. theres a little 'bug' in the  status bar.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> says 'this page contains coding errors'
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Error: http://www.axiz.co.za/axiz/controls/SolpartMenu/spmenu.js: TypeError: Value undefined (result of expression Node.prototype.__defineGetter__) is not an object. Cannot be called.
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Error: http://www.axiz.co.za/axiz/news/news/corporatenews/tabid/100/Default.aspx: TypeError: Value undefined (result of expression oNo
[06:58] <fignew> lol I get that for most pages on the internet :)
[06:58] <sigma_> that2
[06:58] <sigma_> but why does it work on firefox?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Yep. that web site needs.. work.
[06:59] <sigma_> how do i move files from /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ to my desktop
[06:59] <sigma_> ?
[06:59] <sigma_> Dr_willis: its their brand new site! lol
[06:59] <Dr_willis> cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/* /home/username/Desktop
[07:00] <Dr_willis> sigma_,  shall i point out that it looks fine in IE. :)
[07:00] <sigma_> Dr_willis: lol
[07:00] <Dr_willis> they got somthing messed up with theur grey box's of links...
[07:01] <Dr_willis> lets try Opera
[07:01] <sigma_> Dr_willis: can i use the feisty package installer in gutsy? the one that was on the rightclick menu
[07:02] <sigma_> Dr_willis: yeah they don't seem to focus on a web presence
[07:03] <Dr_willis> sigma_,  i always just use the shell and apt-get install stuff..
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Opera wins :)
[07:04] <sigma_> lol
[07:05] <sigma_> Dr_willis: but if i find the installer script in feisty and copy it over will it work?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> sigma_,  what isntaller script?
[07:05] <crystal> salut
[07:06] <crystal> hello
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Howdy
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Aloha
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Hiddly Ho!
[07:07] <crystal> il a une persone qui parle Français ICI
[07:07] <sigma_> Dr_willis: the one that made that right click installer appear in feisty
[07:08] <Dr_willis> sigma_,  i cant recall the last time i ever installed a package by clicking on it. :) even those i download i use the shell and 'dpkg -i whatever.deb'
[07:08] <jhutchins> !fr | crystal
[07:08] <ubotu> crystal: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:09] <crystal> merci tank
[07:09] <jhutchins> Se bon
[07:30] <tehm0nk> can anyone look at my install partition settings (its a picture on photobucket) and tell me whats wrong or what they *should* look like?
[07:30] <firecrotch> Ok, I'm having a *slight* brain-fart right now... let's say I have a shell script, we'll call it script.sh, I ssh into my server and run it.  How can I have it **NOT** exit the script if I close the ssh connection?
[07:30] <tehm0nk> firecrotch: no idea....
[07:31] <firecrotch> tehm0nk:  I'm sure it's something simple, I recall having done it before, I just don't remember how
[07:33] <tehm0nk> ive tried like everything lol
[07:34] <tehm0nk> it's cause my raid is harsh lol
[07:34] <Slynderdale> Is there anyone around who is familiar with the setwork settings and such in Gutsy Gibbon> I'm expierencing a problem. No matter what I tried, I can't get a static IP to work.
[07:36] <firecrotch> Slynderdale:  what do you mean it doesn't work? Can't set one? or it doesn't stay configured after a reboot? or what?
[07:37] <sigma_> how do i get my windows pc to see my kubuntu pc on a network? i have enabled file-sharing and samba - i can see the windows pc from the kubuntu pc but not vice versa, however the kubuntu pc can ping the windows pc successfully
[07:37] <Slynderdale> firecrotch: CAn't set one, when I do, it won't let me connect to the network or internet. My current network IP is <IP_ADDRESS> and I tried to set it to the static ip of <IP_ADDRESS>, with the same info I used in feisty fawn and it doesn't work.
[07:37] <firecrotch> tehm0nk: I figured it out, how silly of me.  nohup ./script.sh
[07:38] <sigma_> whats the proper address to enter in the windows pc to access the kubuntu pc?
[07:42] <marx2k> *sigh* klibido has some serious shortcomings
[07:42] <Daisuke-Ido> the kubuntu pc's IP...
[07:42] <mox69__> Slynderdale: it might be something with networkmanager
[07:42] <jca-DK> Hi can anyone please help getting my ati radeon x1950 pro card working with compoiz fusion. i got my ati card set up with the ENVY tool, but when i run compiz --replace i get a xgl not present. and if i do xgl info i get "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org. please help :)"
[07:42] <Daisuke-Ido> marx2k: oh, where do i start?  no automatic downloading to a directory based on subject, for one.
[07:43] <Daisuke-Ido> jca-DK: well, you shouldn't have used envy.
[07:43] <Daisuke-Ido> check #compiz-fusion
[07:43] <sigma_> Daisuke-Ido: tried that, the windows pc says windows can't find it
[07:43] <marx2k> Daisuke: how about no ability to set an expiry date greater than 99 days
[07:43] <Slynderdale> mox69__: Everything I tried failed to work :/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48296/
[07:43] <marx2k> my binary server has 150 day retention... guess I lose 51 days :)
[07:44] <Daisuke-Ido> marx2k: ah, i'm using an isp newsserver, so that's never come up :D
[07:44] <Daisuke-Ido> great completion, terrible retention
[07:44] <sigma_> Daisuke-Ido: the kubuntu pc is also an apache web server - the windows pc sees files on the webserver perfectly
[07:44] <Daisuke-Ido> sigma_: how are files on the kubuntu pc shared?  samba?  nfs?
[07:45] <marx2k> Daisuke: hah I guess as long as youre constantly scanning and decoding, that shouldnt be an issue for you :) I pay $20/month for unlimited download/unlimited speed
[07:45] <Daisuke-Ido> that sounds like...  giga?
[07:46] <jca-DK> Daisuke-Ido: Why not? i tried to use the restrizted drivers in kubunto but linuz freezes when i load x and i have to cut power to computer.
[07:46] <marx2k> Daisuke: it's a giga competitor :)
[07:46] <Daisuke-Ido> !envy
[07:46] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[07:46] <Daisuke-Ido> !ati
[07:46] <marx2k> but really, it's all the same...the only difference is retention rates
[07:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:46] <sigma_> Daisuke-Ido: samba and nfs
[07:47] <marx2k> Daisuke-ido: newsgroups.com
[07:47] <Daisuke-Ido> marx2k: retention plus speed
[07:47] <marx2k> mm hmm
[07:47] <marx2k> I have a 10MBit download connection, and if Im not saturating it 24/7 with  these newsgroups, I feel like Im wasting my money :)
[07:47] <jca-DK> Thanks i will check :)
[07:48] <sigma_> marx2k: i wish i had that kinda speed
[07:49] <marx2k> sigma: its expensive and only useful if you have access to servers that can keep up that speed with content
[07:49] <marx2k> it's 10 down, 1 up
[07:50] <marx2k> and its cable, and they block service ports so I cant set up web servers or ftp servers
[07:50] <sigma_> marx2k: isnt it useful for downloading large files?
[07:50] <marx2k> sigma: indeed it is. my movie collection has grown exponentially :)
[07:50] <sigma_> Daisuke-Ido: so any ideas on how to make the network work
[07:50] <jca-DK> marx2k: nice nice your using newsgroups :) what server you use ?
[07:50] <jussi01> !o4o | marx2k
[07:50] <ubotu> marx2k: Some things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[07:51] <marx2k> jca-DK: newsgroups.com
[07:51] <marx2k> sorry, newsfeeds.com
[07:51] <Daisuke-Ido> sigma_: i'm drawing a blank, other than doublechecking samba settings
[07:52] <marx2k> my samba was totally screwed this morning... I fixed it
[07:52] <marx2k> but I took a very extreme route in doing so
[07:52] <sigma_> Daisuke-Ido: could windows firewall be a problem?
[07:52] <Slynderdale> Can anyone here help me with a network problem in Gutsy Gibbon? For some reason, it won't let me set a Static IP in Gutsy Gibbon while it did in Feisty Fawn using the same information. I ended up doing a clean install of Gutsy Gibbon today to replace Feisty Fawn and ran into this problem. My DHCP IP currently is <IP_ADDRESS> yet when I try to set the static IP to <IP_ADDRESS> which I used in Feisty and WIndows, it fails to connect.
[07:54] <sigma_> marx2k: how did u do it?
[07:55] <Linux_Galore> Slynderdale: when you have a static ip you dont actually connect
[07:55] <marx2k> sigma: I basically removed almost every option from my smb.conf and took it down to workgroup and  netbios name for global section and path for share section
[07:56] <Linux_Galore> Slynderdale: if you not getting out it usually means you havent set the gateway and the dns properly
[07:56] <marx2k> sigma: I was having some serious samba issues before that
[07:57] <Linux_Galore> Slynderdale: either that or you havent setup your router properly
[07:57] <sigma_> marx2k: are you connected to your internet router via a lan cable?
[07:57] <marx2k> yes
[07:57] <marx2k> but also have wireless laptops on the lan
[07:58] <Slynderdale> Linux_Galore: They are properly set, thats what confuses me. Heres my before and after interfaces file, my connection info and so on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48296/
[07:58] <Linux_Galore> marx2k: I usually use swat the setup the base conf
[07:58] <marx2k> Linux: I was using an awesome program called gsambad
[07:58] <marx2k> !info gsambad
[07:58] <ubotu> gsambad: GTK+ configuration tool for samba. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.6-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 95 kB, installed size 360 kB
[07:58] <sigma_> marx2k: when you connect the lan cable to your pc does the internet just work automatically or do you have to set it up?
[07:59] <Linux_Galore> Slynderdale: can you ssh into another machine ?
[07:59] <marx2k> marx2k: it works automatically... I mean might have to restart networking in /etc/init.d but generally its automatically
[07:59] <Slynderdale> Linux_Galore: No, it doesn't even register my gateway/router. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48299/
[08:00] <Slynderdale> You can see before then after when I set the static IP and then when I removed it
[08:00] <Linux_Galore> Slynderdale: what does ifconfig show
[08:00] <sigma_> marx2k: ah ok i see, always wondered if it did, and how exactly would you share the internet connection on one pc over a linux network? lets assume its not a lan router but rather a usb modem that im using
[08:01] <Slynderdale> Linux_Galore: Nothing after its set and before I have in the pastebin. THough if you want, I can get you the actual results though iI will have to reconnect to IRC.
[08:02] <marx2k> sigma: Unless youre hooking all your PC's into a centralized router and that router hooks into your gateway, I dont know how to work it
[08:03] <Slynderdale> Linux_Galore: Its weird, I used exactly the same settings I used in Feisty Fawn as I did in Gutsy Gibbon yet it worked in FEisty but not in GUtsy and there hasn't been any hardware or network changes since then.
[08:03] <sigma_> marx2k: ok. i just dont understand why it doesn't work if i put default gateway as the pc with the internet connection
[08:04] <marx2k> sigma: yeah Im totally clueless about connection sharing
[08:05] <sigma_> marx2k: ok ive edited my samba settings in kcontrol, must i restart my pc for it to take effect or is there a command i can run to restart samba?
[08:05] <marx2k> sigma: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:05] <tehm0nk> it's installing!
[08:05] <sigma_> marx2k: it appeared i had the wrong workgroup name
[08:06] <Slynderdale> Linux_Galore: So am I a hopeless case?
[08:06] <sigma_> marx2k: it said command not found
[08:08] <marx2k> command not found??
[08:08] <sigma_> marx2k: suppose it would help if i actually had samba installed :)
[08:08] <marx2k> hahaha yeah
[08:08] <marx2k> !info smbd
[08:08] <ubotu> Package smbd does not exist in gutsy
[08:08] <marx2k> Ummm....
[08:08] <sigma_> i thought it was installed automatically
[08:08] <marx2k> !info samba
[08:08] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 3750 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[08:09] <marx2k> !info smb-server
[08:09] <ubotu> Package smb-server does not exist in gutsy
[08:09] <marx2k> hmmm
[08:09] <marx2k> !info samba-server
[08:09] <ubotu> Package samba-server does not exist in gutsy
[08:09] <marx2k> wtf
[08:09] <sigma_> marx2k: is that the only one i need?
[08:09] <marx2k> let me think here...
[08:09] <marx2k> yes, just install the samba package
[08:10] <marx2k> !info smbfs
[08:10] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 473 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[08:10] <sigma_> marx2k: if you look up the "samba" package in packages.ubuntu.com it says - a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix
[08:10] <marx2k> yep that should do it
[08:10] <marx2k> you probably also want.. umm.....
[08:10] <marx2k> !info winbind
[08:11] <marx2k> !info nmbd
[08:11] <marx2k> come on, ubotu
[08:11] <ubotu> winbind: service to resolve user and group information from Windows NT servers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 2190 kB, installed size 5508 kB
[08:11] <ubotu> Package nmbd does not exist in gutsy
[08:11] <marx2k> !namebind
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about namebind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <marx2k> ugh
[08:11] <marx2k> well you want the namebind service also
[08:11] <marx2k> I forget the package name
[08:12] <sigma_> marx2k: will i work just with the samba package? i just want the windows pc to see the linux pc
[08:12] <marx2k> it SHOULD... but you MIGHT also need the namebind package...
[08:12] <marx2k> nmbd - NetBIOS name server to provide NetBIOS over IP naming services to clients
[08:13] <marx2k> oh thats part of the samba suite, so you should be all good actually
[08:13] <sigma_> marx2k: surely it should be a dependency?
[08:14] <marx2k> its part of the package
[08:14] <sigma_> il be damned, kubuntu has all the dep's for samba, they should've included it with the default install
[08:15] <marx2k> eh... it's just extra files ... most people dont need them and wouldnt know what to do with them
[08:15] <marx2k> *most* people have only one computer :)
[08:15] <sigma_> marx2k: oh ok, well let me try download it, hope it worlks
[08:15] <sigma_> marx2k: lol
[08:15] <marx2k> it should be
[08:16] <marx2k> also you might want to download the gsambad package... it makes setup REALLY easy
[08:16] <sigma_> marx2k: is it just me or is internet alot faster on linux than windows?
[08:16] <sigma_> ok il get that
[08:16] <tehm0nk> is there a way to have dual monitors?
[08:16] <marx2k> I get better connection rates (lower ping rates, faster download rates) in linux
[08:16] <marx2k> if you disable ipv6, I think it gets even faster
[08:17] <jussi01> !dualhead | tehm0nk
[08:17] <ubotu> tehm0nk: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:17] <sigma_> marx2k: so its not just me! will disabling ipv6 make a diff if u use a usb modem? (gprs)
[08:18] <marx2k> no
[08:18] <jussi01> !ipv6
[08:18] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:19] <sigma_> marx2k: dam! lol. ok it finished downloading
[08:19] <marx2k> use gsambad to set it up
[08:19] <marx2k> trust me :)
[08:19] <marx2k> enjoy , im going to sleep :)
[08:19] <tehm0nk> also which nvidia drivers do i use?
[08:20] <dsmith_> is it true the kde4 uses less memory?
[08:20] <sigma_> marx2k: thanks for the help!
[08:20] <jussi01> tehm0nk: which card do you have?
[08:21] <jussi01> tehm0nk: its likely it will select them for you in the restricted manager
[08:22] <tehm0nk> oh
[08:22] <tehm0nk> 2 8600GT
[08:22] <Slynderdale> Seems like everyone who tries to help me tends to disappear :/ Guess my problem will never be solved.
[08:22] <tehm0nk> heh 1 LCD on each
[08:22] <tehm0nk> !xenerama
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xenerama - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <tehm0nk> !Xinerama
[08:23] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:28] <tehm0nk> ok my cd just errored out during install
[08:28] <tehm0nk> i didn't think nothing of it but i burned it at 48x
[08:28] <tehm0nk> and it was on the partition i just whiped
[08:28] <tehm0nk> so i just went to dl it again and through i'd try the torrent
[08:28] <tehm0nk> it shot up to 600 KB/s
[08:28] <tehm0nk> downloaded 9mb then fell to 0 and stopped lol
[08:29] <Slynderdale> Can anyone here help me with a network problem in Gutsy Gibbon? For some reason, it won't let me set a Static IP in Gutsy Gibbon while it did in Feisty Fawn using the same information. I ended up doing a clean install of Gutsy Gibbon today to replace Feisty Fawn and ran into this problem. My DHCP IP currently is <IP_ADDRESS> yet when I try to set the static IP to <IP_ADDRESS> which I used in Feisty and WIndows, it fails to connect.
[08:34] <sigma_> when i access a samba machine from windows it always prompts for a username and password, what do i enter?
[08:36] <tehm0nk> where do i find the restricted manager in kubuntu?
[08:36] <sigma_> kcontrol
[08:41] <jussi01> tehm0nk: kmenu -> system settings -> advanced -> restricted manager
[08:41] <tehm0nk> thank you jussi01
[08:42] <jussi01> :D
[08:42] <tehm0nk> how do i make kubuntu look like youtube's ubuntu beryl?
[08:55] <SatManUK> afternoon all - regarding my topic yesterday on pos for linux - i found bananapos.com - Banana Point of Sale
[08:56] <SatManUK> but the server has just crashed on me mid way through downloading the files..
[08:56] <SatManUK> anyway care to check out www.bananapos.com and see if you can connect?
[08:56] <tehm0nk> SatManUK: do you know anything about compiz-fusion?
[08:56] <SatManUK> not a clue..
[08:57] <SatManUK> never used it sorry
[08:57] <tehm0nk> it's there for me
[08:57] <SatManUK> hmmz..
[08:57] <tehm0nk> are  you using konquerer?
[08:57] <SatManUK> i can't even ping it..
[08:57] <SatManUK> yeah
[08:57] <SatManUK> can you give me the dns for it?
[08:57] <tehm0nk> try firefox
[08:57] <SatManUK> ok
[08:57] <tehm0nk> [00:58] [DNS] Resolved www.bananapos.com to: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:58] <tehm0nk> konquerer gave me problems right off the bat
[08:58] <tehm0nk> today is my first time in a while messin around with linux lol
[08:59] <SatManUK> 100% packet loss
[08:59] <SatManUK> i was on the site earlier
[08:59] <SatManUK> i sent them an e-mail because the ftp server is passworded
[08:59] <SatManUK> and then it went offline :P
[08:59] <tehm0nk> you KILLED dum!
[08:59] <SatManUK> nope i can't even connect with firefox..
[09:00] <tehm0nk> what is it you're trying to get from there?
[09:00] <SatManUK> well if you wanna be kind you could download the rpm's and e-mail them to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for me
[09:00] <SatManUK> the rpm
[09:00] <SatManUK> i will use alien to convert them to deb
[09:00] <SatManUK> and install them that way
[09:00] <penguin> what is the command o unmount my cd rom
[09:00] <SatManUK> eject :p
[09:00] <penguin> it refuses
[09:00] <SatManUK> umount /media/cdrom
[09:01] <SatManUK> sudo umount /media/cdrom
[09:01] <SatManUK> (something is using it)
[09:01] <SatManUK> have you got a window open
[09:01] <SatManUK> like dolphin
[09:01] <SatManUK> or are you in the folder?
[09:01] <SatManUK> usually the reason
[09:01] <SatManUK> you cant umount it from within the folder
[09:02] <SatManUK> or with any kind of folder viewer open
[09:02] <SatManUK> if Dolphin is viewing /media/cdrom - you can't umount /media/cdrom
[09:02] <SatManUK> !compiz
[09:02] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:03] <SatManUK> tehm0nk: thats for you
[09:03] <penguin> i gave sudo umount /media/cdrom and pressed eject on cdrom and it still didnt work
[09:03] <tehm0nk> cool
[09:03] <tehm0nk> right now i'm on the live cd
[09:03] <tehm0nk> is there a way to switch the cd without rebooting?
[09:03] <SatManUK> penguin: are you in /media/cdrom
[09:04] <SatManUK> i don't know..
[09:04] <penguin> im in my home directory
[09:04] <SatManUK> if you press eject from the live cd - it don't give it you so i guess not..
[09:04] <SatManUK> it lives on the cd - without the cd - how can i live?
[09:04] <penguin> its a starcraft cd
[09:04] <tehm0nk> i want to switch it with the same cd
[09:04] <tehm0nk> lol
[09:04] <SatManUK> its not the  cd something is locking the drive
[09:04] <SatManUK> reporting its in use
[09:05] <tehm0nk> the one i'm on gave me errors while copiein haha
[09:05] <SatManUK> well you can do a net install if you want.. depending on how fast your connection is
[09:05] <SatManUK> i used to use SuSe but i switched to Kubunutu because its mirrored in Georgia
[09:05] <tehm0nk> how would i do that?
[09:05] <SatManUK> and that means 8mb/s
[09:06] <SatManUK> good question :P
[09:06] <SatManUK> one min..
[09:06] <tehm0nk> well i mean my dl isn't great
[09:06] <tehm0nk> 6 mb dl speed
[09:06] <tehm0nk> but that dont mean i'll get that from anyone
[09:06] <tehm0nk> i wish i could do it across the network somehow
[09:06] <tehm0nk> bah lemme just reboot on the other CD brb
[09:07] <SatManUK> ok tyt
[09:09] <inteliwasp> how can i remotely empty the trash bin?
[09:11] <SatManUK> i don't know..
[09:12] <tehm0nk> should i update via adept before installing?
[09:13] <inteliwasp> i just tried to delete a folder bigger than the free space on my primary hdd
[09:17] <idiocrash> anyone have other terminals to recommend besides konsole? Looking for ideas.
[09:18] <vzduch> aterm, eterm, urxvt..        gnome-terminal *duck*
[09:18] <idiocrash> what are the benefits of those three?
[09:19] <SatManUK> wb tehm0nk
[09:19] <SatManUK> xterm?
[09:19] <vzduch> depends on what you want, I guess.. for me, urxvt is a bit too minimalistic, I've used aterm before and afair it's useable, eterm I only know by name
[09:21] <Voyage_> any good file manager other than konqueror and dolphin?
[09:21] <vzduch> Krusader
[09:21] <idiocrash> thunar!
[09:21] <idiocrash> or if you like the terminal... midnight commander. Good to have around when xorg is broken.
[09:26] <SatManUK> damn i can't convert post 1.2.3
[09:27] <vzduch> ?
[09:29] <lascar> does anyone else (with COMCAST as an ISP) get wlan timeouts when using ktorrent?
[09:30] <jack> salut a tous
[09:30] <jpatrick> !fr | jack
[09:30] <ubotu> jack: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:31] <SatManUK> i can't even connect to www.bananapos.com
[09:31] <vzduch> what's that?
[09:36] <|Steffan|> Hi, when i installed kde i had to choose what kind of window (mode) i liked. I choosed for 'windows', but how I can change that mode?
[09:36] <|Steffan|> I mean the look en feel of kde
[09:37] <jca>  hi can anyone help me configure xorg.conf for compiz-fusion
[09:38] <SatManUK> |Steffan|: configure desktop
[09:38] <jca> i installed and tried the restricted driver manager, but it dosent work
[09:39] <vzduch> applying changes usually requires to restart X.. did you do that yet?
[09:39] <tehm0nk> argh just ran into a problem with grub not good lol
[09:39] <SatManUK> |Steffan|: on the desktop - right click and you should see it
[09:39] <tehm0nk> can i paste here 3 linrd?
[09:39] <tehm0nk> *lines
[09:39] <SatManUK> tehm0nk: whats up with grub
[09:40] <tehm0nk> grub> device (hd0) /dev/mapper/nvidia_hdihbdaa
[09:40] <SatManUK> it works fine with me
[09:40] <tehm0nk> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:40] <tehm0nk> Error 15: File not found
[09:41] <tehm0nk> did i put the wrong thing?
[09:42] <|Steffan|> SatManUK, i saw it :D
[09:43] <tehm0nk> no ideas?
[09:44] <|Steffan|> tehm0nk, just wait..
[09:45] <SatManUK> !grub
[09:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:45] <diego> españa?
[09:46] <Lynoure> !es
[09:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:46] <tehm0nk> i'm using a walkthrough as it is lol and i followed everything to the T lol
[09:46] <diego> ok gracias
[09:46] <diego> ola
[09:46] <diego> alguien k me pueda ayudar?
[09:47] <diego> esk soy nuevo en este sistema operativo
[09:47] <|Steffan|> Je ne parle pas francais!
[09:47] <|Steffan|> or spanish
[09:47] <diego> spain¿
[09:47] <jpatrick> !es > diego
[09:49] <|Steffan|> Has KDE such ([alt]+[F2]) keys a  gnome?
[09:49] <|Steffan|> really miss those keys
[09:49] <jpatrick> yep
[09:49] <jpatrick> if you mean the run dialog
[09:50] <jca> how do i get a SB X-fi to work in kubuntu
[09:55] <tehm0nk> ok i really think i screwed it up
[09:56] <|Steffan|> jpatrick, that i think so
[09:56] <jpatrick> |Steffan|: if you want an application launcher type: 'katapult' there and use that
[09:56] <tehm0nk> maybe it was the setup of my partitions
[09:57] <binks121> how can i tell what the location of my dvdrw drive is
[09:57] <|Steffan|> But how i use katapult?
[09:57] <ardchoille> |Steffan|: alt+space
[09:58] <|Steffan|> it doesn't work
[09:59] <|Steffan|> it does nothing
[09:59] <ardchoille> |Steffan|: Does this command return tow lines: ps aux | grep katapult
[09:59] <ardchoille> *two
[09:59] <tehm0nk> grub> root (hd0,6) | Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[10:00] <|Steffan|> Two lines
[10:01] <surgy> hi
[10:01] <ardchoille> |Steffan|: katapult and grep katapult? and alt+space does nothing?
[10:02] <SatManUK> what is the point of having a whocares email on a site
[10:02] <SatManUK> if you don't want e-mails - don't put up the address
[10:03] <|Steffan|> ardchoille, you say it
[10:03] <jpatrick> |Steffan|: what does it return running it in the console?
[10:03] <|Steffan|> aargh, i'm back to gnome :P
[10:03] <ardchoille> lol
[10:03] <|Steffan|> steffan   6064  0.0  0.8  30696 17180 ?        S    10:27   0:01 katapult -session 10d9d39668000112680660600000081280032_1193858299_581469
[10:03] <|Steffan|> steffan   7175  0.0  0.0   2976   772 pts/1    S+   11:00   0:00 grep katapult
[10:04] <ardchoille> katapult -session  ?
[10:04] <|Steffan|> didn't do anything special, so ..
[10:05] <ardchoille> |Steffan|: Run katapult from a terminal and see if there is any output, if not, try alt+space while it's running
[10:05] <sylvisj> What would be the best way to add an autostart script?
[10:06] <jpatrick> sylvisj: in ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:06] <sylvisj> ex. modprobe -r nivida; modprobe nvidia
[10:06] <|Steffan|> I'm back to gnome :P
[10:06] <jpatrick> sylvisj: hmm, you might want to add that to /etc/modules
[10:06] <sylvisj> jpatrick, I need something that takes effect sooner than KDE's autostart
[10:06] <sylvisj> ok, thanks
[10:07] <SatManUK> trying tuxshop
[10:07] <sylvisj> jpatrick, I can just add nvidia and it'll automatically cycle it?
[10:07] <sylvisj> or will I have to manually modprobe -r it somewhere
[10:08] <jpatrick> sylvisj: adding nvidia should do
[10:11] <tehm0nk> !grub
[10:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:11] <SatManUK> and its a deb file :) no alien converts
[10:13] <vzduch> what's tuxshop?
[10:19] <poison--> morning
[10:20] <|Steffan|> Hi
[10:20] <vzduch> !hi | poison--
[10:20] <ubotu> poison--: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:20] <poison--> :D
[10:21] <Tm_T> !botabuse
[10:21] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:23] <poison--> morning Tm_T
[10:23] <Tm_T> g'day
[10:23] <poison--> im havin a weird issue
[10:24] <poison--> everytime i reboot i loose my beyboard layout settings
[10:24] <poison--> and to set it right, i only have to uncheck and check again the country flag box in settings
[10:24] <tehm0nk> !grub
[10:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:25] <vzduch> Tm_T: are you a bit over-sensitive today? o0
[10:25] <Tm_T> vzduch: I'm always ;)
[10:27] <tehm0nk> ok, i can't figure this out
[10:27] <tehm0nk> all the walk throughs are saying to do the same thing with grub
[10:27] <tehm0nk> find /boot/grub/stage1
[10:28] <tehm0nk> and that brings up nothing.
[10:29] <ardchoille> tehm0nk: from a regular terminal (not in a grub shell) try this:  ls /boot/grub/stage1
[10:29] <jay-oh-en> would it be hard to get a laptop with these system specs to get working with linux "mobile AMD sempron processor +3000 with 384mb RAM and a ATI mobility radeon Xpress 200 series graphics card"?
[10:30] <tehm0nk> ls: /boot/grub/stage1: No such file or directory
[10:30] <ardchoille> tehm0nk: Right.. find can't return that which doesn't exist
[10:31] <tehm0nk> so how do i fix that
[10:31] <tehm0nk> is what i was getting at all along :-P
[10:31] <tehm0nk> i mean i even browsed to there and didn't find it
[10:31] <ardchoille> Right, find is doing exactly what it should be doing
[10:31] <ardchoille> The problem is stage1 doesn't exist
[10:31] <tehm0nk> is there anything i can do to fix that?
[10:32] <tehm0nk> i mean i was close :-/
[10:32] <tehm0nk> been at this all day and most of the night haha
[10:32] <tehm0nk> here is something else
[10:33] <tehm0nk>    Partition num: 3,
[10:33] <tehm0nk> Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[10:33] <tehm0nk> ardchoille: can i pm u?
[10:33] <ardchoille> tehm0nk: Is this a fresh install on old hardware?
[10:34] <risto> what for is the skim ?
[10:34] <tehm0nk> trying to add kubuntu
[10:34] <tehm0nk> to a vista system
[10:34] <tehm0nk> is there something i needed to change in the bios maybe?
[10:34] <tehm0nk> i swear i remember a setting...
[10:35] <ardchoille> tehm0nk: I'm not well versed in grub
[10:35] <tehm0nk> dang
[10:35] <tehm0nk> lemme look in my bios brb... heh
[10:38] <vzduch> if this didn't substantially change, Grub is not capable of seeing partitions that start behind the 128 GB line
[10:39] <SatManUK> now i need to load install mysql
[10:40] <SatManUK> !mysql
[10:40] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:42] <tehm0nk> !grub
[10:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:45] <SatManUK> !postgres
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postgres - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <SatManUK> !pg
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <jpatrick> SatManUK: please /msg ubotu for exploring :)
[10:48] <avain> *really hopes somebody can help her*
[10:48] <avain> Is anybody about that i could ask a question of?
[10:48] <jpatrick> !ask | avain
[10:48] <ubotu> avain: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:49] <SatManUK> how to start the postgresql server?
[10:49] <PolitikerNEU> does anybody know anything about the following error: CMake Error: kcddb was not found. Need to install from kdemultimedia
[10:49] <vzduch> the rare sight of a woman in this channel, and then she's shy, oh my.. o0                  :D
[10:50] <avain> Okay, well recently ive installed kubuntu, problem is, i took too much space from my win xp partition, and i need to get it back, im willing to nuke and pave kubuntu if needed, but i need to get my xp part back up, i used xp for my work, and i need the space for when clients need big projects done
[10:50] <jpatrick> SatManUK: like in /etc/init.d/ see if there's a postgresql script: if so 'sudo /etc/init.d/postresql start'
[10:51] <SatManUK> i guess theres not
[10:51] <SatManUK> it says command not found
[10:51] <vzduch> if you cp&paste'd it it can't be found :D
[10:53] <avain> So, does anybody know? ._. im freaking out, i just had a client talk to me today about a project, and $$$ is important
[10:53] <SatManUK> i found it
[10:53] <Lynoure> avain: you can use qparted for resizing the partitions back the way you want them, I think,  unfortunately you cannot resize mounted partitions and thus need to use a bootable cd for it
[10:53] <SatManUK> it says its running
[10:53] <SatManUK> but i don't have ownership permisions inorder to restart it
[10:53] <avain> <3 Lynoure
[10:54] <avain> So, that would allow me to nuke the linix part, then reformat it back to NFTS and merge it with my current win xp part?
[10:54] <SatManUK> aha starting PostgreSQL 8.2 database server :)
[10:54] <Lynoure> avain: you would not even have to 'nuke' Linux, you can just reduce it's size, if you want.
[10:54] <avain> Do you know where i can get the files nessery to get a qparted boot cd going?
[10:55] <avain> Ah, even better :)
[10:55] <vzduch> is *parted able now to increase NTFS partitions in size?
[10:56] <vzduch> afaik this was always a limitation in Linux
[10:56] <SatManUK> how do i know the default password?
[10:56] <Lynoure> vzduch: not sure, actually. But I can check.
[10:56] <avain> Do you think ya could be my hero and give me info on how to get a boot cd of qparted going? x.x
[10:56] <vzduch> Sidux
[10:57] <Lynoure> vzduch: if it cannot, she can take space from linux and turn it into FAT32 and use that for the project files...
[10:57] <ardchoille> avain: SystemRescueCD has qtparted and a ton of other useful admin tools on it and it's only about 200Mb
[10:57] <vzduch> doesn't have qtparted, but gparted works at least as well as qtparted
[10:57] <ardchoille> avain: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[10:58] <avain> <3 thank you
[10:58] <ardchoille> avain: My bad, it has gparted, not qtparted
[10:58] <avain> its this burnable from windows though? ive yet to master burning on linix and as much as i love the OS, all the tech work right now for it is gonna make my poor little head pop
[10:58] <ardchoille> avain: But it's still a very nice livecd
[10:59] <vzduch> burning in Linux is as easy as installing and firing up K3b
[10:59] <ardchoille> avain: Download the iso, burn it as an image to a blank cd and you're set
[10:59] <avain> Thankee so much x.x i almost freaked out waaaay too mcuh X3
[10:59] <avain> when your rent and stuff is coming up, and projects pay that x.x
[10:59] <ardchoille> !sysresccd
[10:59] <ubotu> SystemRescueCd is a Linux system on a bootable CD-ROM. It contains a number of admin tools including gparted and partimage. http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[11:00] <ardchoille> I forgot there was a bot trigger for it
[11:00] <SatManUK> avain once you get used to it - you will find kde just as easy - if not easier to use than windows :)
[11:00] <SatManUK> whats the default password for postgreSQL?
[11:00] <avain> *chuckles and smiles* :) heh ive only really used windows beacuse it makes it easier when i show demos to my clients, on a OS thats familier to them, and one i grew up using X3 but i just might! heh
[11:00] <sigma_kubuntu> why does ktorrent not work?
[11:01] <avain> well thank you! off i go! <3 cheers!
[11:02] <vzduch> sigma_kubuntu: define 'does not work'
[11:02] <Lynoure> ubotu has a nice factlet on that...
[11:06] <sigma_kubuntu> vzduch: when i tel it to download something it does nothing
[11:06] <vzduch> you should see the download listed in the download window when you open the torrent
[11:07] <sigma_kubuntu> ubotu: !ktorrent
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <booobs> Hi!
[11:07] <jpatrick> !info ktorrent > sigma_kubuntu
[11:07] <vzduch> if it doesn't download, there's either no peers or a tracker you need to register for
[11:07] <vzduch> all information is given in the download window
[11:08] <sigma_kubuntu> ok il giv it another try. can spyware and malware from bittorent infect my linux machine?
[11:09] <vzduch> improbable though not impossible
[11:11] <sigma_kubuntu> comforting to know. i have already uninstalled wine. hope i dont get anything
[11:12] <booobs> I have installed Kubutn 7.10 and installed Fluxbox. Now I have the problem that my knetworkmanager doesn't work anymore. It just says "no network devices found". but i can connect manually with konsole with "sudo iwconfig essid home", so my card should be allright. pls help!
[11:12] <sigma_kubuntu> i just worry about bios viruses
[11:13] <jpatrick> sigma_kubuntu: as long as you don't install anything funny, you should be fine
[11:13] <booobs> tried to reinstall knetworkmanager but it didn't help
[11:16] <booobs> :[
[11:48] <kuras> siema all
[11:49] <maverick> so even the new Kubuntu 8.04 will not have KDE4 by default
[11:49] <maverick> ?
[11:49] <bazhang> no maverick
[11:49] <booobs> why?
[11:50] <bazhang> not ready for prime time
[11:50] <maverick> !kde4
[11:50] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[11:50] <SatManUK> anybody ever gets stuck with postgressql they need this command.. psql -c "ALTER USER postgres WITH PASSWORD 'newpassword'" -d template1
[11:50] <SatManUK> when you first install..
[11:52] <illumin123> Moin
[12:10] <nick_> Hi everyone, i'm looking for backup software (I don't like keep) that can do full and differential backups, does anyone have any suggestions?
[12:10] <jussi01> !backup | nick_
[12:10] <ubotu> nick_: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:11] <Daisuke-Ido> um, yeah.  keep
[12:12] <nick_> Daisuke-Ido: I'm not a huge fan of keep
[12:13] <Daisuke-Ido> i don't blame you
[12:22] <bsander> I *love* retrospekt
[12:22] <bsander> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=57952
[12:23] <bsander> as a backup tool
[12:24] <Lynoure> bsander: how long have you been using it?
[12:25] <bsander> for about two weeks now i think
[12:25] <sangeli> Hi, I am getting an error on mount /dev/sda5 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) This way I am not able to get my profile as my home dir is on /dev/sda5
[12:25] <sangeli> What do I have to do to understan the error and fix it?
[12:25] <bsander> only problem is that it needs to backup to a partition that can handle hard links (like ext3)
[12:25] <bsander> so I had to reformat my extranal hd from vfat
[12:26] <bsander> other than that, it rocks my socks ;)
[12:26] <bsander> sangeli: whats the error?
[12:26] <Lynoure> bsander: I have been thinking of graphical front-end for dirvish, myself.
[12:26] <nick_> bsander: Ill check that out, thanks for the link bsander
[12:27] <sangeli> bsander, after an upgrade made by kubuntu, I was not able to access my home dir which resides on /dev/sda5. So, I do not have anything of mine when I login. How to fix it?
[12:27] <bsander> Lynoure: that's not incremental, is it?
[12:27] <Lynoure> bsander: heh, yes it is.
[12:28] <sangeli> bsander trying to add it to fstab does not work because at new reboot it resets to default settings.
[12:28] <bsander> sangeli: whats the error when you manually mount /dev/sda5?
[12:28] <sangeli> one sec
[12:28] <bsander> ah ok
[12:28] <Lynoure> bsander: same way all rsync-link based backup solutions are. they not really new. :)
[12:29] <bsander> Lynoure: yeah exactly :)
[12:29] <bsander> but what does it add then, over retrospekt?
[12:29] <sangeli> bsander, first of all, when I umount I get an error saying that it is busy
[12:29] <sangeli> bsander, so, first I have to umoun it right_
[12:29] <gabriel_> hey guys, what application do you you for voice chat with your buddies?
[12:30] <gabriel_> use*
[12:30] <bsander> gabriel_: skype. It has video support now <3
[12:30] <Lynoure> bsander: I have not tried retrospekt... too new for me. Does it allowing backing up to remote systems? Does it take care of expiring old versions?
[12:30] <bsander> sangeli: yeah i think so
[12:30] <gabriel_> bsander: i isn't skype in the ubuntu repos?
[12:31] <sangeli> bsander, I do not know where is it mout as. How to solve this first issue?
[12:31] <bsander> gabriel_: don't know really
[12:31] <gabriel_> bsander: ok i didn't find it there after search
[12:31] <bsander> it should be available from skype.com as a .deb i think
[12:32] <bsander> sangeli: i'm not really that much of a mounting guru :) When you just type "mount", dos it get listed a sbeing mounted somewhere?
[12:33] <sangeli> bsander, this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48315/
[12:34] <bsander> Lynoure: it does take care of expiring backups, it keeps daily, weekly and monthly stuff for a limited time, and according to the author it does support remote backups but (at east for now) you'd need to configure rsnapshot by hand
[12:34] <bsander> in the end it dhould support any system that rsnapshot/rsync supports :)
[12:34] <gabriel_> http://www.skype.com/intl/sv/download/skype/linux/ will those rpms work for kubuntu? they're not specifically for ubuntu...
[12:35] <sangeli> ha, I got it.
[12:35] <sangeli> bsander, my home dir is not on /dev/sda5 but on /dev/sda6
[12:35] <romunov> how do i activate the Add shortcut in Spellcheck?
[12:35] <sangeli> how to correct this on my current kubuntu?
[12:36] <romunov> i have to add a larger number of words to a custom dictionary
[12:36] <bsander> gabriel_: for video support (dont know if you want that), you'll need skype 2.0 beta
[12:36] <bsander> get it here: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/beta/
[12:36] <bsander> the feisty fawn .deb works in gutsy too
[12:37] <bsander> sangeli: i think you should try this in system settings -> advanced -> disk & filesystems
[12:38] <gabriel_> bsander: no i just want audio chat
[12:38] <Lynoure> bsander: thanks for the info.
[12:38] <bsander> gabriel_: then 1.4 should do it too: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[12:38] <bsander> also a feisty fawn .deb
[12:39] <sangeli> ok
[12:39] <gabriel_> yeah but i have only installed via repository install so far... kinda new to linux
[12:39] <bsander> however i like the sound support of 2.0 better too, and it hasn't crashed on me once
[12:39] <bsander> so i still recommend 2.0 :)
[12:39] <bsander> Lynoure: np :)
[12:39] <gabriel_> bsander: can i easily install one of those rpms? will they work for unbuntu?
[12:40] <gabriel_> maybe ubuntu is compatible with mandrake rpms?
[12:40] <bsander> gabriel_: there are .debs on those pages, specifically built for ubuntu. Try those.
[12:40] <gabriel_> ok thanks
[12:41] <bsander> ubuntu doesnt support rpms, so if you really want those you need to convert them with another package, I believe it's called alien
[12:41] <bsander> !info alien | gabriel_
[12:41] <ubotu> gabriel_: alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.68 (gutsy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[12:42] <sangeli> let me try I rebbot and see if it works. I think I got the error identified.
[12:42] <bsander> ok :)
[12:42] <gabriel_> bsander: there was download for feisty.. so it should work with that even though i'm on gutsy right?
[12:42] <bsander> yes
[12:42] <bsander> it works for me:)
[12:46] <sangeli> why kubuntu is unable to retain the settings set into fstab? I removed /dev/root       /       unionfs defaults        0       0   and changed with the proper setting /dev/sda6  /   /ext3  default 1 1  saved and rebooted. but it goes back to what it was before
[12:49] <gabriel_> bsander: it says "problem with audio capture" when i try to call someone.... i have SB live card and everything else is working...
[12:49] <gabriel_> bsander: any ideas?
[12:50] <bsander> did you check the faq?
[12:50] <gabriel_> bsander: of course not :)
[12:50] <drbobb> damn networkmanager really pisses me off
[12:50] <bsander> hehe
[12:50] <gabriel_> bsander: i'm coming from windows hehe
[12:51] <drbobb> unreliable as shit is what it is
[12:52] <drbobb> i had to switch off all crypto on my ap to force it to connect today
[12:52] <bsander> gabriel_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[12:54] <sigma_kubuntu> anyone here gotten their nvidia tv out working properly?
[12:54] <drbobb> and i still needed to reboot cause the dumb gizmo continued to insist the ap is encrypted
[12:54] <drbobb> though it no longer was
[12:54] <ibilic> how do I download a single file from the console?
[12:55] <drbobb> ibilic: d/l from http://...
[12:55] <drbobb> ?
[12:55] <drbobb> wget <paste the url here>
[12:55] <sigma_kubuntu> i got mine working in feisty but theres no hope in gutsy
[12:57] <drbobb> heh i don't really want to keep my ap unecrypted for good, do i
[12:57] <sigma_kubuntu> nvidia
[12:57] <drbobb> so let's try enabling good ol'wep for a start
[12:58] <bsander> sigma_kubuntu: yes
[12:59] <sigma_kubuntu> bsander: which card do u have?
[12:59] <SatManUK> i have installed and can access a PostGreSQL Database - I am trying to install http://www.shcircuit.com/~ross/TuxShop-2.2-i386.deb TuxShop POS to link in with PostGreSQL but it keeps saying unable to connect to MySQL server but its tested with PostGreSQL any ideas?
[12:59] <fsckr> ok i am kinda new to kde been using gnome.  is there a way i can get rid of this stupid kdwallet crap
[12:59] <bsander> geforce 7600 mobile or something
[13:00] <nosrednaekim> fsckr: yeah,you can disable the wallet
[13:00] <fsckr> well i have already uninstalled it but it still comes up
[13:00] <nosrednaekim> fsckr: although kwallet is very useful if you run alot of kde apps (kmail, kopete, konqueror)
[13:00] <sigma_kubuntu> bsander: how did u do it? i hav a 6600gt
[13:01] <fsckr> no it annoys me everytime i run something with a password it pops up
[13:01] <bsander> fsckr: you can let kwallet have an empty password, so it still gets used but doesn't bother you anymore
[13:01] <ibilic> drbobb: yes, wget did it, thanks
[13:01] <drbobb> damn
[13:01] <drbobb> no good, network manager insists on using the old crypto config it has remembered
[13:02] <drbobb> hey can anyone gimme a hint on what to do about it??
[13:02] <bsander> sigma_kubuntu: i used nvidia-settings, mostly. But i have a strange setup, already have dual head and use the tv only for movies..
[13:03] <bsander> but first, try nvidia-settings, works great most of the time
[13:03] <bsander> !info nvidia-settings | sigma_kubuntu
[13:03] <ubotu> sigma_kubuntu: nvidia-settings: Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0+20070502-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 675 kB, installed size 1616 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[13:03] <test_> I am unable to umount a device. How to force it to umount?
[13:04] <flha> ho
[13:04] <vzduch> what's the error?
[13:04] <test_> I have two / in mounts
[13:04] <test_> I need to remove the wrong one but I always get busy device
[13:05] <vzduch> I don't think that's possible..
[13:05] <drbobb> or is it just me that is struggling with the general flakiness of networkmanager vs wireless??
[13:05] <sigma_kubuntu> bsander: i also want to use tv only for movies. i tried nvidia settings. it doesnt do anything - how do i force tv detection?
[13:05] <nosrednaekim> two / mounts? unless its a merged FS, thats impossible.
[13:05] <test_> everytime I change fstab and reboot it goes back to original and does not retain my changes
[13:06] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: no clue, I just know how to do it on my ATI
[13:06] <nosrednaekim> try the command line nvidia-settings
[13:06] <bsander> sigma_kubuntu: i'll show you how I'm doing it, just a sec.
[13:06] <vzduch> test_: 'mount' --> pastebin please
[13:07] <test_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48321/
[13:07] <test_> /dev/sda6  is the correct partition where /home resides
[13:07] <test_> after upgrading kubuntu I got this mess
[13:08] <vzduch> strange
[13:08] <test_> yes
[13:08] <kuroryuu> test_: what's your fstab look like?
[13:08] <vzduch> only thing I can think of is: use a live CD to correct the fstab & reboot
[13:09] <drbobb> why a live cd? why not just fix it now & reboot?
[13:09] <test_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48325/
[13:10] <kuroryuu> drbobb: cause it'll just update the fstab in the home dir and not in the real /
[13:10] <test_> because anytime I reboot the changes I make to fstab are erased and the file is brought to prior setting
[13:11] <test_> If I choose to boot off the live cd, what do I have to do_
[13:11] <test_> ?
[13:11] <kuroryuu> though you could umount /dev/sda5 and mount it as something else to change the fstab there, then make sure grub's booting the right partition as /
[13:12] <test_> but if I do so I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48326/
[13:12] <kuroryuu> test_: try lsof | grep /dev/sda5
[13:13] <kuroryuu> it'll tell you what's using that mount
[13:14] <test_> I get empty line
[13:14] <kuroryuu> odd...
[13:14] <test_> even if I add mount -f it does not work
[13:14] <test_> yes
[13:14] <kuroryuu> basically you should boot up on the livecd and mount /desv/sda5 and change the fstab to the correct setting
[13:15] <test_> I will try
[13:15] <test_> thks for now.
[13:15] <test_> ........
[13:15] <drbobb> kuroryuu:  what are u talking about
[13:16] <kuroryuu> drbobb: which part do you mean?
 drbobb: cause it'll just update the fstab in the home dir and not in the real /
[13:16] <drbobb> this part
[13:16] <kuroryuu> because he had his home directory mounted as / somehow
[13:16] <drbobb> aah sorry missed that
[13:17] <drbobb> had stuff seriously fscked up then
[13:18] <bsander> sigma_kubuntu: I have this script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48322/ and this xorg-conf-tv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48324/ which is used in the script
[13:18] <bsander> it creates a new xsession on the tv and starts mplayer on it
[13:20] <drbobb> ok so can anyone claim that he/she has a setup such that networkmanager just works w/wireless?
[13:20] <drbobb> i wanna know the secret to make it so
[13:20] <sigma_kubuntu> bsander: let me copy those links down and log into irc on my pc. im browsing on my phone now
[13:21] <bsander> hehe ok
[13:22] <kuroryuu> drbobb: not that it's much help, but my wireless worked 'out of the box'
[13:22] <drbobb> my story is that n.m. seems to work fine with my ap for days
[13:23] <drbobb> but then one day decides it no longer wants to cooperate
[13:23] <drbobb> so day 1: it connects but disconnects after a minute or two
[13:23] <drbobb> lather rinse repeat
[13:24] <drbobb> day 2: won't associate at all
[13:24] <kuroryuu> odd... what kinda card is it?
[13:24] <drbobb> broadcom 4318
[13:24] <sigma_> bsander: its me sigma_kubuntu
[13:24] <drbobb> i tried both ndiswrapper and bcm43xx
[13:24] <sigma_> bsander: how do i use the scripts?
[13:24] <drbobb> but it makes no difference, dooesn't seem to be a driver problem
[13:25] <kuroryuu> have you tried tinkering with your access point?
[13:25] <drbobb> power-cycling the ap seems to help for a while sometimes
[13:25] <drbobb> but then, sometimes it doesn't
[13:26] <drbobb> iwlist scan reports the ap correctly, with good signal quality
[13:26] <sigma_> bsander: are u still there?
[13:26] <bsander> sigma_: theres one script
[13:26] <drbobb> i tried tinkering with the crypto settings