[09:02] <Beldar> shady, what android release is this it should show when plugged in?
[09:03] <shady> jelly bean
[09:03] <Beldar> shady, which one look in settings about.
[09:04] <shady> Sorry
[09:04] <shady> I didn't get it
[09:04] <Beldar> shady, android 4 and above should show when plugged
[09:05] <Beldar> earlier ones are a problem.
[09:05] <shady> it's android 4.2 butt always show me a msg
[09:06] <shady> that there is an error with the usb port
[09:06] <Beldar> shady, you have the usb debugging ticked in developer options?
[09:09] <shady> no
[09:10] <Beldar> shady, tick that.
[09:10] <shady> ok, wait
[09:11] <shady> done, what's next?
[09:11] <Beldar> shady, now plug it in if plugged unplug and back in.
[09:13] <gfetco> Dear Ubuntu users, I am having some issues with my headphones they to get static sound it even if all my levels are set to zero on alsamixer
[09:13] <gfetco> srry mistake enter
[09:13] <reisio> gfetco: got another pair?
[09:14] <shady> ok thank you
[09:14] <gfetco> reisio: Yeah I'll try them back in 1 min
[09:14] <shady> :)
[09:14] <Beldar> shady, you up and running?
[09:15] <shady> yes thank you :)
[09:15] <Beldar> shady, cool, enjoy. ;)
[09:15] <shady> ;)
[09:16] <gfetco> reisio: seems to be no problem with my other headphones but they are earplug phones, I don't think they have the same sensitivity. The big headphones which I am having trouble with atm works on any other device, such as my Android Phone, tablet, pc,...
[09:17] <jeremiah_> .
[09:17] <reisio> gfetco: how many bands on the plug?
[09:18] <gfetco> reisio: on the headphones(with issue) it has 2 and the one working has 3. Hmm you're quite good at this!
[09:18] <gfetco> thanks
[09:19] <ousama> ousama
[09:19] <reisio> mmm, would've guessed the other way 'round if anything
[09:19] <reisio> probably irrelevant
[09:20] <reisio> but it could be that one plug is fitting better than the other
[09:20] <reisio> and the variance in bands (contacts) isn't helping
[09:20] <reisio> I don't really keep track, but I'd guess most ports are only designed with ordinary stereo (two bands) in mind
[09:21] <gfetco> reisio: I tried with another plug with 3 still the same problem :S
[09:22] <gfetco> reisio: might this be an driver issue?
[09:24] <Xubuntin> Hi
[09:25] <reisio> gfetco: sounds like a straigth up hardware issue to me
[09:25] <reisio> straight*
[09:25] <reisio> Xubuntin: hi
[09:26] <gfetco> reisio: Is it hard to pin down ? Could it be any component producing static or just the audio card?
[09:27]  * reisio shrugs
[09:29] <vlase> buna
[09:37] <rahuldroy> Hi
[09:38] <rahuldroy> I need some help with wifi on Ubuntu 12.04, the chipset is Aualcomm Atheros AR5416
[09:40] <rahuldroy> I need some help with wifi on Ubuntu 12.04, the chipset is Aualcomm Atheros AR5416
[09:40] <FlurglerHobbit> hey all. My computer just started hanging on reboot....wasn't doing this 20 minutes ago but now it won't go past a spinning wheel indicating the comp is shutting down. What do I do?
[09:41] <rahuldroy> @FlurglerHobbit, Can you try accessing other shells. You can acess other shells by press ctrl+alt+F1
[09:43] <wilornel> What are some processes during boot that happen when waking up a laptop from sleep that relate to the computer's sound system? I need to run some commands to get my sound working after hibernation...
[09:44] <FlurglerHobbit> rahuldroy: I am not sure. When I try to reboot a bunch of y's appear on the screen and then it hangs.
[09:46] <jemark> rahuldroy: what's the output of rfkill list all
[09:53] <donoban> hi
[09:53] <donoban> anyone had success installing acestream on ubuntu 13.10?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> !anyone
[09:55] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:55] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, greetings
[09:55] <cristian_c> I've installed bustle
[09:55] <cristian_c> After I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'
[09:56] <cristian_c> How I solve this?
[09:56] <scrxw> Hi. When I move a window to the side of the screen it auto-resizes to the right half of the screen. Can I do this with keyboard commands like in Win7(WIN+Right)? Im running standard 12.04
[09:56] <scrxw> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:plexapp/plexht
[09:56] <scrxw> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jon-severinsson/ffmpeg
[09:56] <scrxw> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pulse-eight/libcec
[09:56] <scrxw> sudo apt-get update
[09:56] <FloodBot1> scrxw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:56] <scrxw> ah sry!
[09:56] <cristian_c> I've also installed graphviz
[09:56] <scrxw> 10:53 < donoban> I have
[09:56] <donoban> does ---force-yes ignores unsatisfied dependencies?
[09:56] <cristian_c> But nothing has changed :(
[09:57] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:57] <donoban> scrxw, It complains about a lib
[09:57] <scrxw> which one?
[09:57] <donoban> acestream-player-data : Depends: libdvbpsi7 (>= 0.2.0) but it is not installable
[09:57] <donoban> i've already have libdvbpsi8
[09:59] <scrxw> I have no idea. Mine installed without a problem though :(
[10:01] <donoban> do you have the player?
[10:01] <donoban> I have the acestreamengine but no player or firefox plugin
[10:01] <donoban> No idea about running with only the engine
[10:02] <donoban> could you check your repo? :\
[10:02] <scrxw> I installed acestream-full
[10:02] <donoban> mine is: http://repo.acestream.org/ubuntu/ raring main
[10:03] <donoban> recommended for ubuntu 13.04
[10:03] <scrxw> yeah. I used the recommended for 12.04 since im on 12.04
[10:04] <donoban> ahhh, hehe i was asking for ubuntu 13.10
[10:04] <donoban> LTS version owns hehe
[10:04] <scrxw> have you tried acestream-full
[10:05] <donoban> yes is the same since all depend on acestream-player-data wich depends on the missing lib
[10:07] <scrxw> Cant help with the libs (came here for help myself:P)
[10:09] <donoban> hehe don't worry scrxw  ty anyway
[10:11] <ItsMeLenny> "Your system does not contain a ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop or edubuntu-desktop package and it was not possible to detect which version of Ubuntu you are running." <-- yet ubuntu-desktop is installed
[10:19] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, and your point is?
[10:20] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, it means update manager doesn't work
[10:24] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, what do these command show. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  pastebin all of the info
[10:24] <robin_> Hi all, does someone know what packages provide support for chinese fonts and characters?
[10:24] <cfhowlett> robin_, ask in #ubuntukylin they'd know for sure
[10:25] <robin_> thx
[10:26] <robin_> there is no one there cfhowlett
[10:26] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, http://paste.debian.net/67454/ for update, and i dont want to run upgrade
[10:27] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, The upgrade is important to see, it will only show what ca be upgraded and you have a yes or no to run it.
[10:28] <ItsMeLenny> ah right, so you can still get the info if i hit no
[10:28] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, yeah
[10:28] <ItsMeLenny> ok thats no prob then
[10:28] <apm1> ok so i am thinking of setting up a 32bit environment on my laptop which has a 64bit cpu . i have heard wine is easier to debug on 32bit
[10:29] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, heres the upgrade http://paste.debian.net/67455/
[10:29] <apm1> the latest app i need to run on this is a game gta4
[10:29] <ItsMeLenny> i found i can upgrade the packages in synaptic tho
[10:29] <apm1> would it run ?
[10:30] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, Have you run any partial upgrades with the update manager?
[10:30] <ItsMeLenny> apm1, i have no problem running 32 bit games in wine on 64bit, but yes you can run 32 ubuntu on a 64 processor
[10:30] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, thats whats not updating, the partial upgrade, thats when it kicks up the stink about not having ubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <ItsMeLenny> which i do have
[10:30] <apm1> ItsMeLenny, have you tried GTA4 specifically ?
[10:31] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, But have you run any as of yet?
[10:31] <ItsMeLenny> apm1, no, GTA SA
[10:31] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, yeah quite a few I think, various random ones that like to screw up the system :P
[10:31] <apm1> ItsMeLenny,and is there a newer version in repos for wine ?
[10:31] <apm1> i see 1.4 still
[10:32] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, Running a partial even one can brick your setup.
[10:32] <viktor> \join #libreoffice
[10:32] <apm1> !info wine
[10:32] <apm1> i am not sure why there isn't a newer version
[10:32] <apm1> does it go under a diff name or something ?
[10:33] <ItsMeLenny> apm1, i use their ppa
[10:33] <apm1> wineHQ's ?
[10:33] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, yeah, thanks for the help anyway
[10:33] <ItsMeLenny> apm1, yes
[10:34] <apm1> ItsMeLenny, and what GPU do you have that runs SA on wine ?
[10:34] <apm1> i have only had luck with nvidia
[10:36] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, I will assume you understand why there are partials and adjust accordingly. ;)
[10:37] <ItsMeLenny> apm1, yeah i use nvidia 9800GT
[10:37] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, yeah, i add a lot of ppas which some can be fickle
[10:38] <ItsMeLenny> apm1 you can check winehq to see how it fairs
[10:38] <apm1> it fairs alright on wine but the test results are for 64bit systems ItsMeLenny
[10:38] <apm1> i am rather curious for 32bit
[10:38] <apm1> if no one has reported i'd be the first for a 32bit environment
[10:38] <ItsMeLenny> apm1, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8757
[10:39] <ItsMeLenny> apm1, it probably wont make a difference at all, because wine only runs 32bit
[10:39]  * apm1 lights up :)
[10:39] <apm1> ItsMeLenny, and what are my chances on a readon
[10:39] <ItsMeLenny> wine cant run 64 bit games, theres a 64bit compilation of wine but thats just wine
[10:40] <ItsMeLenny> a readon?
[10:40] <apm1> the GPU
[10:40] <apm1> i'll use the catalyst driver
[10:40] <ItsMeLenny> thatd depend more on how linux handles a radeon than it would wine
[10:40] <ItsMeLenny> i use official nvidia drivers
[10:40] <ItsMeLenny> not the open version
[10:41] <apm1> ItsMeLenny, noveau is not up to the level i know that first hand too
[10:41] <apm1> but for amd prop drivers i've heard the reverse
[10:41] <apm1> that catlyst is worse than the xorg drivers
[10:41] <ItsMeLenny> whats noveau isnt that a hand cream
[10:42] <ItsMeLenny> i dunno, ive always used nvidia, never had AMD, not a fan
[10:42] <apm1> no its the free driver for nvidia cards ItsMeLenny
[10:42] <apm1> ItsMeLenny, and the hand cream is "nevia"
[10:42] <NeoID> Hi there.. I have a bit problem with ubuntu server. I have a file/folder that for some reason has the owner and group set to a random number and permission set to drwx-w-rwt... now not even root can delete this folder.. any ideas?
[10:43] <ItsMeLenny> ah right, apm1, yeah i dont like it at all
[10:43] <apm1> i like how it smells though XD
[10:43] <gordonjcp> NeoID: sounds interesting, how did it get created, and what's the path to it?
[10:43] <ItsMeLenny> NeoID chown or chmod
[10:43] <FlurglerHobbit> hey all
[10:43] <ItsMeLenny> apm1, i mean i dont like noveau
[10:43] <FlurglerHobbit> when I try to enter a command into terminal a bunch of y's flood it
[10:43] <FlurglerHobbit> what in the hell is going on?
[10:44] <gordonjcp> FlurglerHobbit: your keyboard may be broken
[10:44] <ItsMeLenny> FlurglerHobbit, stop holding down the y key
[10:44] <NeoID> ItsMeLenny, chmod/own just telles me that the operation isn't permitted (as root)
[10:44] <apm1> ItsMeLenny, thanks for the help :)
[10:44] <ItsMeLenny> do you sudo it?
[10:44] <gordonjcp> NeoID: perhaps you need to use chattr to make it not immutable
[10:44] <ItsMeLenny> apm1 np
[10:44] <FlurglerHobbit> ItsMeLenny: yes
[10:44] <NeoID> gordonjcp, is created using rsync from one server to another.
[10:45] <NeoID> gordonjcp, tried chattr +i and +a, but that doesn't even change anything
[10:45] <FlurglerHobbit> ItsMeLenny: help me...please...i am so desperate
[10:45] <NeoID> ItsMeLenny, yes, I use sudo (even though I am root)
[10:47] <ItsMeLenny> FlurglerHobbit, lift your finger off the y key
[10:47] <ItsMeLenny> NeoID, i don't know sorry
[10:47] <NeoID> gordonjcp, http://i.imgur.com/qF7ZqCj.jpg
[10:48] <molgrum> hi all, i installed cinnamon from the official repos and it works good except when i click the menu everything lags and freezes except the mouse pointer
[10:48] <NeoID> damn, I really don't want to move all of the data and format the drive just because of one file screwing around :(
[10:48] <gordonjcp> NeoID: weird
[10:48] <gordonjcp> and you can *write* to that drive
[10:48] <gordonjcp> ie. you can create other files and directories?
[10:48] <NeoID> sure
[10:48] <NeoID> just that particular file is the problem
[10:48] <ItsMeLenny> molgrum, have you tried the 2D cinnamon
[10:49] <NeoID> how may I remove the t-attribute normally?
[10:50] <molgrum> ItsMeLenny: yes, same problem there
[10:50] <molgrum> unity and gnome works fine
[10:50] <gordonjcp> NeoID: chmod, normally
[10:50] <gordonjcp> NeoID: t is "sticky"
[10:51] <gordonjcp> NeoID: what does (as root) chmod 755 <file> do?
[10:51] <NeoID> gordonjcp, ok, then there must be somthing else giving me the problem
[10:51] <NeoID> operation not permitted
[10:51] <ItsMeLenny> molgrum, bizzare, i just updated to the stable, im not sure if it has the problem i havent restarted it yet
[10:51] <ItsMeLenny> i will see
[10:51] <gordonjcp> NeoID: wait wait, is that *actually meant to be a directory*?
[10:51] <gordonjcp> NeoID: because that looks like a filename
[10:52] <gordonjcp> NeoID: is it possible that the filesystem is corrupted?
[10:52] <ItsMeLenny> molgrum, nope seems fine to me, try the nightlies or the latest stable
[10:52] <NeoID> gordonjcp, I start to think that it may be the case
[10:52] <NeoID> it's supposed to be a file, but it thinks it a directory
[10:52] <gordonjcp> NeoID: yeah
[10:52] <gordonjcp> NeoID: so the filesystem is borked in some way
[10:52] <gordonjcp> NeoID: unmount and fsck, I reckon
[10:52] <NeoID> what's the proper way of checking the filesystem? I have a mdam raid configuration...
[10:53] <molgrum> ItsMeLenny: are you on 13.10?
[10:53] <ItsMeLenny> 12.04
[10:54] <ItsMeLenny> im planning not to upgrade til 18.04
[10:54] <NeoID> is there a proper way of unmounting md0 or just do umount /dev/md0?
[10:55] <angela_> hi I need a non-root user to be able to run the upstart services
[10:55] <angela_> currently, when s/he is running the service command there is the message
[10:55] <angela_> start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.62" (uid=1003 pid=10603 comm="start node_weixin ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[10:56] <angela_> what permission/privilege do I need to grant the said user for service command to be available to him/her
[11:04] <sandman13> what would be a good dock for ubuntu with xfce4?
[11:14] <FlurglerHobbit> Can someone pleaseee help me? I cant run any terminal commands without the terminal getting flooded with the y character
[11:14] <FlurglerHobbit> I really don't understand what is going on
[11:14] <ItsMeLenny> reboot FlurglerHobbit
[11:15] <FlurglerHobbit> ItsMeLenny: I have done that
[11:15] <FlurglerHobbit> It doesnt allow me to
[11:15] <FlurglerHobbit> it hangs
[11:15] <FlurglerHobbit> and just shows y flooding the screen
[11:15] <ItsMeLenny> switch off at the power point
[11:15] <ItsMeLenny> and then switch keyboards
[11:15] <cfhowlett> FlurglerHobbit, hard reboot
[11:15] <cfhowlett> ^^^
[11:15] <Beldar> !eol
[11:15] <FlurglerHobbit> I have done both of those thingd
[11:15] <FlurglerHobbit> things
[11:16] <ItsMeLenny> !yspam
[11:16] <ItsMeLenny> !new_keyboard
[11:16] <FlurglerHobbit> ItsMeLenny: That isn't the issue
[11:16] <ItsMeLenny> how do you know
[11:17] <FlurglerHobbit> because I have entered reboot through ssh from another computer
[11:17] <FlurglerHobbit> and that computer
[11:17] <FlurglerHobbit> it happens no mater what
[11:17] <FlurglerHobbit> and always loads to grub
[11:17] <ItsMeLenny> without the keyboard plugged in?
[11:18] <FlurglerHobbit> ItsMeLenny: yes
[11:18] <vr2mx>
[11:18] <sandman13> what would be a good dock for ubuntu with xfce4?
[11:18] <FlurglerHobbit> I am so livid
[11:19] <cfhowlett> sandman13, see the software center for docks
[11:19] <cfhowlett> FlurglerHobbit, that's definitely abnormal behavior.  Given the failures you describe, if it's NOT hardware, you might have some random bad code.  Try this.  create a new user and then use terminal.  if it still fails, reinstall would be my next strategy.
[11:20] <FlurglerHobbit> cfhowlett: thanks
[11:20] <imchoog> anybody out there tested Gnome 3.10 on Ubu 14.04 ?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> !anyone|imchoog,
[11:20] <gordonjcp> FlurglerHobbit: can you log in as another user?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> imchoog, also, all discussion of 14.04 belongs in #ubuntu+1
[11:20] <cfhowlett> !14.04
[11:21] <imchoog> ok. mea culpa :-)
[11:22] <Beldar> sandman13, I like the cairo-dock
[11:22] <vr2mx>
[11:23] <sandman13> Beldar installed that previously but it installed its own desktop environment
[11:24] <Beldar> sandman13, I don't use it just the dock in the shell.
[11:25] <Beldar> there is docky
[11:25] <sandman13> Beldar installed that too
[11:25] <Beldar> probably others
[11:26] <sandman13> Beldar i wouldn't have used docks if the right button opened the menu for the launcher
[11:27] <Beldar> sandman13, I have used xubuntu in the past and a little of xfce, but not in a long time.
[11:28] <sandman13> like when i right click firefox icon it provides me some sort of menus "open window" "private window" Beldar
[11:28] <Beldar> sandman13, what has you using that de?
[11:29] <sandman13> Beldar which one?
[11:29] <Beldar> xfce
[11:30] <sandman13> Beldar it's lightweight and customizable unlike Unity
[11:30] <Beldar> sandman13, there both 2 of about 50 possibilities for linux is all.
[11:32] <vr2mx>
[11:32] <aeroraver> can someone help me, I tried to do a dist-upgrade last night from 13.04 to 13.10, i let it run over night to see that the installer crashed, and now when i try to upgrade via apt i get the following errors: http://pastebin.com/6fNTBmCp
[11:32] <sandman13> Beldar can't understand you
[11:32] <cfhowlett> aeroraver, dist-upgrade will not move you from 13.04 to 13.10.  you  need dist-release for that
[11:33] <Beldar> sandman13, just saying there a lot of options.
[11:33] <sandman13> Beldar what do you recommend
[11:33] <aeroraver> cfhowlett: well I used the gui installer when I got the option, but even then, appearantly apt doesn't respond anymore
[11:34] <Beldar> sandman13, nothing really I use the gnome shell, works for me I do not really need to have a lot of customization.
[11:35] <sandman13> Beldar xfce was recommended by someone who was using Arch
[11:36] <cfhowlett> aeroraver, 1.  boot a live ubuntu USB.  Save your data.  2. download 13.10 and make a new USB.  3. Boot 13.10 and clean install.
[11:36] <Beldar> sandman13, problem with recommendations is they are subjective it works for them, may not be what another wants in the end, you gotta find what works for you some how though.
[11:37] <CoolMan> hello from newby.... sorry for my english, i'm only french froggy
[11:37] <cfhowlett> CoolMan, greetings
[11:37] <CoolMan> thank you
[11:37] <aeroraver> cfhowlett: alright, i'll do that then,  since my installation is messed up anyway
[11:37] <CoolMan> i use ubuntustudio
[11:38] <cfhowlett> CoolMan,  same here.
[11:38] <CoolMan> is it possible to submit a question here ?
[11:38] <sandman13> Beldar, i want something that is in between Unity and Gnome
[11:39] <sandman13> Gnome 2.x
[11:39] <gordonjcp> CoolMan: don't ask to ask...
[11:39] <cfhowlett> CoolMan, possible and expected.  ask.
[11:39] <CoolMan> ok, sorry
[11:40] <Beldar> sandman13, run centos it is still gnome 2
[11:40] <theadmin> sandman13: Xfce is very similar to GNOME 2.
[11:41] <CoolMan> i try to put 3 differents sound cards (usb) to work for recording multitrack on ardour
[11:41] <CoolMan> but can't, my ubuntustudio still work with only one at same time, do you know some solution or tutos for that ?
[11:42] <CoolMan> i ask google but no soluce...:-(
[11:42] <cfhowlett> CoolMan, bring this question to #ubuntustudio   #opensourcemusicians
[11:43] <CoolMan> ah ok, thank you for your redirection help ;-)
[11:43] <CoolMan> it's the first time i came here
[11:43] <sandman13> Beldar will check it out
[11:47] <sandman13> Beldar what do you think of KDE?
[11:47] <Beldar> sandman13, never used it
[11:54] <vr2mx> quit
[11:55] <vr2mx> PART
[11:58] <EricKit> Hello.  I'm trying to mount a harddrive which is attached to a netgear #6300 and can be accessed via //eric/Movies in a browser.  When I type "sudo mount -t cifs -o "guest" //eric/Movies /media/networkShare" I get an error 115 operation now in progress
[11:59] <Tz_> Aric_
[12:00] <EricKit> Anywone have any idea why this wouldn't mount?
[12:03] <aristotilic> I am running Ubuntu Live CD on a laptop which does not have a hard drive, but I have an external hard drive I can't install it on the external hard drive because I think it is not detecting it
[12:04] <aristotilic> can I be able to mount on a Live CD?
[12:04] <theadmin> aristotilic: Sure. The installer can install to external drives, I'm certain, I've done it before
[12:04] <theadmin> aristotilic: If it's not being detected it's probably a bad disk
[12:05] <aristotilic> hmm running gparted to see whats up
[12:06] <aristotilic> fixed
[12:06] <theadmin> Well there you go.
[12:07] <theadmin> aristotilic: Now just install normally, since you only have one drive it's going to install to that.
[12:08] <fortelleren> I seem to have an issue where in order to get my Epson SX445W to be found and used, I have to reinstall the driver each boot, so it seems as if the driver is not being loaded on each boot. Does anyone have an idea of how to fix this?
[12:09] <babinlonston> Now i'm going to install Ubuntu server , is it possible to install RAID now ? while installing time can i configure raid ?i need to install from cli mode not from graphical mode
[12:10] <ikonia> babinlonston: depends on your desired raid configuration
[12:10] <Guest58277> Hello
[12:10] <babinlonston> ikonia: how can i install it
[12:10] <theadmin> fortelleren: Find out what the module name is when it works (look through "lsmod") and add that to /etc/modules
[12:11] <ikonia> babinlonston: did you read what I said "it depends on your desired raid configuration"
[12:11] <fortelleren> theadmin, thanks
[12:11] <babinlonston> ikonia: ok now i need to install raid 5 , how can i start installing uUbuntu Using RAID 5 in cli mode
[12:12] <ikonia> babinlonston: what is managing the raid 5 array, is it a hardware/software/fakeraid configuration
[12:12] <babinlonston> software
[12:12] <babinlonston> i need to install software raid
[12:16] <ResQue> what is the difference between desktop and alternative version of ubuntu
[12:16] <fortelleren> I don't seem to be able to find anything indicating the module name, is there a generic printer driver name for the module?
[12:16] <fortelleren> ResQue, Mainly desktop environment and pre-packaged software
[12:16] <Foxtrot> fortelleren, lsmod | grep "printer"
[12:16] <Foxtrot> if you get nothing
[12:16] <Foxtrot> lsmod | more
[12:16] <Foxtrot> look through it
[12:16] <ResQue> fortelleren: is alternative kde or something?
[12:17] <Foxtrot> no
[12:17] <Foxtrot> That would be Kubuntu
[12:17] <cfhowlett> ResQue, the difference is the install experience.  it's still ubuntu but with a text based installer
[12:19] <ResQue> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:20] <Layke> Trying to  install a package and get an error. php5-gd : Depends: php5-common (= 5.4.9-4ubuntu2.3) but 5.4.17~rc1-2~precise+1 is to be installed
[12:20] <ikonia> babinlonston: ok, so the server install cd should allow you to configure a metadevice array
[12:20] <Layke> I also tried to do a apt-get upgrade, and after 5-10 minutes it errors with fatal error,  files list file for package `bsdmainutils' contains empty filename
[12:21] <babinlonston> ikonia: i dont know so what asking you
[12:22] <ikonia> babinlonston: yes, and I'm saying the server cd will allow you to create a metadevice at install time
[12:22] <ResQue> fortelleren: Foxtrot also thank you
[12:23] <babinlonston> ikonia: ok then
[12:24] <wiehan> I had to reinstall my system. I backed up my home folder. Is there a way to restore steam games such as Metro last Light from those backups, sure would be terrible to redownload all those games on my connection
[12:24] <wiehan> in steam I mean
[12:25] <Ben64> wiehan: if you backed up the games, sure
[12:25] <the_drow> Hi guys, I had to hard reset my computer because Ubuntu froze. Now, when I boot the computer I don't get a connection to the internet. Instead I have to type sudo service network-manager start.
[12:25] <the_drow> How do I permanently fix this?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> wiehan, sure just restore the game backup files you created with steam.
[12:26] <wiehan> Ben64, I just backed up the files from my home folder - I am guessing you are referring to a built in backup feature in Steam?
[12:27] <wiehan> cfhowlett, I couldn't even get into my system to do that, so I just backed up all the files
[12:27] <Ben64> wiehan: i'm just not sure if the games are in home by default. steam is very forgiving about stuff like that, you can just copy them to the correct place and steam should be happy with it
[12:27] <cfhowlett> wiehan, ask the steam team.  it's not an ubuntu issue or fix.
[12:28] <m4rky> hello, am I on right place, where can I get help with my ubuntu?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> m4rky, yes.  ask away.  with details
[12:29] <m4rky> cfhowlett, I didn't get answer on my problem that I described here http://askubuntu.com/questions/381162/initramfs-disk-does-not-exist and I don't no how to fix it.
[12:30] <cfhowlett> m4rky, I'm not the right person on this issue, but there are people here a whole lot smarter than I am ...
[12:31] <m4rky> cfhowlett, ok, thanks
[12:31] <the_drow> I have exactly the same problem as this guy (http://askubuntu.com/questions/347687/how-can-i-enable-and-keep-wifi-without-restart-networking-service-in-ubuntu-serv) and this guy http://askubuntu.com/questions/129436/restarted-computer-during-update-the-system-network-service-is-not-compatible Neither one got a solution besides starting the network manager manually or on startup.
[12:32] <m4rky> Is there anybody, who could help me with ubuntu booting problem? (initramfs counld not find disk)
[12:34] <the_drow> Here are the contents of my /etc/network/interfaces/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6468389/
[12:35] <the_drow> Is there something I should edit?
[12:40] <Layke> Can anyone advise on why I'm constantly getting bsdmainutils errors on anything? http://pastie.org/private/lm7rvqrpsr9lweniz9xmnw
[12:40] <Layke> I can't run apt-get upgrade, autoremove, I can't install things.
[12:41] <zerocircle> Hi!
[12:41] <zerocircle> Is there any alternative of adobe after effects in linux?
[12:42] <D4CH_RPi> what the
[12:42] <D4CH_RPi> my touchpad stopped working
[12:44] <cfhowlett> zerocircle, more details for those of us who've never after-effected?
[12:44] <bgardner> zerocircle: See: http://www.osalt.com/jahshaka
[12:44] <fortelleren> I still can't seem to find out what the module for my printer driver is called, lsmod shows modules but I don't know what I'm looking for.
[12:47] <turi> hello
[12:47] <turi> |list
[12:47] <ikonia> turi: no wares here, sorry
[12:47] <ikonia> please don't try again
[12:48] <turi> ok
[12:50] <btw> part
[12:51] <zerocircle> cfhowlett, I mean video, movive effects, this video will http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxu1W6hsauE
[12:52] <zerocircle> thanks bgardner
[12:52] <cfhowlett> zerocircle, thanks .  I'm in China, so I can't see youtube but ... use bgardner's suggestion
[12:54] <zerocircle> oh! in china... :) I mean creating special effects.... like u mostly see in movies..
[12:55] <Layke> Can anyone advise on why I'm constantly getting bsdmainutils errors on anything? http://pastie.org/private/lm7rvqrpsr9lweniz9xmnw
[12:55] <fortelleren> Is the printer driver module's name something generic or is it dependant upon the driver you have installed?
[12:57] <CrimsonIdol> |help
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !details|CrimsonIdol,
[12:58] <CrimsonIdol> ubottu, nevermind
[13:06] <moppy> google chrome on linux (not chromium) - the pdf reader in that, is it proprietary?
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO>     moppy yes
[13:07] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, rats :-(   it's the only one that gives acceptable performance on certain types of pdf, but it doesn't have many features for reading, like bookmarks etc
[13:10] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, i am trying acrobat and foxit under wine and having varying degrees of success
[13:10] <cfhowlett> moppy, not evince?
[13:10] <hitsujiTMO> moppy: enice not good?
[13:10] <moppy> too slow
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> evince*
[13:11] <cfhowlett> moppy, but it DOES work, right?  :)
[13:11] <moppy> if you call 30 seconds to change page or 5 seconds to pan around a diagram "working"
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> hmm... what in the document is slowing it down?
[13:11] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, very graphics heavy
[13:11] <Venkat> I am looking for card reader driver for Ubuntu 12.04 for lenovo ideapad z570
[13:12] <cfhowlett> ^^^ embedded graphics and all that sort of stuff?
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> moppy: have you tried flattening the pages?
[13:12] <moppy> in evince?
[13:13] <hitsujiTMO> moppy: in a editor ... I'd presume gimp could do it.
[13:13] <lechevalier> i cannot use thunderbird on ubuntu 13.04
[13:13] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, No I haven't tried that. They are CAD diagrams.
[13:13] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, Thank you for the idea, I will look into it.
[13:14] <moppy> cfhowlett, I don't know if they are 'embedded' or not
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> moppy: it's probably full of a thousands of individual elements per page. flattening would speed rendering up
[13:15] <Venkat> Can someone point me to a link that has card reader driver for 12.04 , Lenovo Z570
[13:15] <subz3r0> lechevalier: "does not work" is not a qualified description of error...
[13:15] <subz3r0> lechevalier: What does exacly not work?
[13:15] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, one some of the diagrams i see it rendering layers (the top layers overwrite the bottom) so i think what you say has merit
[13:15] <lechevalier> what can i work ?
[13:16] <subz3r0> anyways... gotta go... but im sure anyone else can help you..
[13:16] <lechevalier> i cannot use thunderbird , icedove  etc ....
[13:16] <subz3r0> !fr > lechevalier
[13:16] <subz3r0> !fr | lechevalier
[13:17] <lechevalier> ok merci
[13:17] <Layke> Why would this error? http://pastie.org/pastes/8505095/text?key=312vsekpq8ulbqu2y78zlw
[13:17] <Layke> I can't remove or install anything
[13:18] <Venkat> Ubuntu 12.04 does not recognise card reader
[13:18] <Wikiadmin> no free space?
[13:19] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, gimp seems to open them as bitmap images, which prevents the zoom working properly - I'll look into pdf creator tools to flatten the diagrams (or I could just ask the document producer to do it, i guess)
[13:20] <Layke> Anyone know what this means? dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'bsdmainutils' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: looks like you package info is corrupted. anything in particular happen before getting this error?
[13:23] <Layke> Nope. Not to the best of my knowledge. I've been all happy for months. I just am attempting to install php5-gd, and failing. And now I'm down a huge rabbit hole.
[13:23] <Layke> I can't run anything involving apt-get without failing.
[13:24] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, I've been searching ubuntuforums for hour+ now, attempting to do anything I can try to fix.
[13:25] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: its not something i've seen before to be honest. Unless you've gone out of your way to manually remove important files i'd consider checking the drive for errors incase its caused by a failing hdd
[13:27] <Layke> Nope. I stay well clear of anything I don't understand. So don't go removing anything
[13:27] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: how old is the hdd?
[13:27] <Layke> 2 years~
[13:27] <Layke> HDD seems unlikely though?
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> yup
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: are you using encryption?
[13:30] <dabears> hey all. How do I add a python script I made to the startup applications using terminal?
[13:30] <dabears> I set +x to the file, it runs properly when executed directly...but it wont execute on it's own when I add it to the file.desktop
[13:31] <trijntje> dabears: you have to specify the full path
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> layke: can you try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall bsdmainutils liba52-0.7.4 libxfont1
[13:31] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, Nope. One thought.. I just rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/<problempacakgename>.list and then attempt to install.
[13:31] <dabears> trijnte: you mean from ~ to the destination?
[13:31] <dabears> I started with home
[13:32] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: do not delete that file
[13:32] <Layke> And everytime I do that, I get a new error with another file..  files list file for package 'libhttp-negotiate-perl' is missing final newline
[13:32] <trijntje> dabears: the full path, starting from /home/
[13:32] <Layke> hitsujiTMO,  Related ? http://www.dmsp.de/Fatal_aptitude_-_missing_final_newline_-_Error
[13:33] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, http://pastie.org/pastes/8505110/text?key=s0rni3lz4qsiljjsh40ga
[13:33] <vkr> hello all
[13:34] <cfhowlett> vkr, greetings
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libhttp-negotiate-perl
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: pastebin any new error again
[13:34] <dabears> trijnte: It just isn't working :/
[13:34] <Layke> http://pastie.org/pastes/8505115/text
[13:35] <Layke> lsb_release says I'm running ubuntu 13.04, raring. (incase I have incorrect repo)
[13:35] <trijntje> dabears: can you paste the path here?
[13:35] <dabears> k
[13:35] <trijntje> dabears: or put the whole .desktop file on pastebin
[13:36] <dabears> trijntje: /home/servu/pymount.py
[13:37] <trijntje> dabears: can you run that script by only putting  /home/servu/pymount.py in the terminal?
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: can you pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/libhttp-negotiate-perl.list
[13:37] <Layke> Sure
[13:37] <dabears> trijntje: no, but I designed it with that purpose in mine
[13:37] <dabears> mind*
[13:38] <dabears> I really don't want to execute this script after every reboot
[13:38] <Homely_Girl> Greeting Brainiacs, anyone got time to help me setup a user using Dash, plse?
[13:38] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, Looks binary?
[13:38] <trijntje> dabears: if you cant run the script with the full path, there is no problem with the .desktop file, but with the command
[13:39] <dabears> trijntje: when I run the file it executes everything just fine though. It worked 30 minutes ago but my server crashed and I had to reinstall the entire OS
[13:39] <dabears> It has to be the startup
[13:39] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, I did a hexdump of it? Is that okay? http://pastie.org/pastes/8505119/text?key=ypy1yterlyar0ryw8d3wqq
[13:39] <hipitihop> during a ./configure I get " No pkg-config for libgnutls" despite having libgnutls-dev installed. I'm on 12.04. Anyone know the secret incantation
[13:40] <trijntje> dabears: how do you 'run the file', can you paste the exact command?
[13:40] <dabears> trijntje: python pymount.py
[13:40] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: and this is the .list file?
[13:41] <Homely_Girl> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with Dash, I've created a 2nd user account for my daughter to log in with but don't know how to allow that user to use the Internet connection, can anyone help plse?
[13:41] <trijntje> dabears: I think you have to add '!#/usr/bin/python' to the top of that file, then see if you can run it with ./pymount.py
[13:41] <prawnsalad> are there any standard tools to supervise a service?
[13:41] <moppy> dabears, does your python script and error out, or is it not being started?
[13:41] <trijntje> Homely_Girl: all users should be able to use the internet connection by default
[13:42] <moppy> *script = start
[13:42] <dabears> trijntje: it worked
[13:42] <Layke> I don't know how to copy the .list file. If I open it it's all unreadable.  http://www.chrisacky.com/images/httpperl.png
[13:42] <dabears> trijntje: how do I make that change to the startup file? just ./script after the path?
[13:42] <Layke> ^^ hitsujiTMO
[13:43] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, So that pastie is a hexdump.
[13:43] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: ok. do you have a live cd/usb around?
[13:43] <moppy> that is weird : why would /home/whoever/pymount.py work and "python /home/whoever/pymount.py" not work?
[13:43] <Homely_Girl> trintje: When I logged in as her the internet connection went offline!  Log back in as me 'n it's online.
[13:43] <Layke> No. (No DVD reader either on this machine). :(
[13:43] <trijntje> dabears: use /home/servu/pymount.py
[13:43] <Layke> Is that what I'd need to do?
[13:44] <dabears> trijntje: how is that any different from what I had already?
[13:44] <trijntje> Homely_Girl: click on the wireless icon, go to 'edit connection', and make sure 'all users can use this connection is set'
[13:44] <trijntje> dabears: you script is different now since you added the !# line
[13:45] <dabears> trijntje: I already had put that there though
[13:45] <hipitihop> Homely_Girl, is your machine WiFi
[13:45] <moppy> Homely_Girl, in the properties for the internet connection, is a setting you can check to 'allow all users' to use it
[13:45] <dabears> moppy: no clue.
[13:45] <moppy> Oh sorry, i am stepping on trijntje 's toes here ... I'll be quiet
[13:45] <Homely_Girl> trintje:  Done thank you will test it 'n come back if necessary.
[13:46] <Homely_Girl> moppy: Thank you, I've done that now
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: your filesystem may be corrupt. the .list file is supposed to be a text file with a list of all the files that were installed, but instead its pointing to an sqlite database. I'd not do anything at all on that machine until you run fsck on the partition and check smart errors
[13:46] <trijntje> dabears: which version of python are you using? it could be you script wont run in the default version that ubuntu has
[13:46] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, Okay thanks. (incidentally.. I just rm -rf that file).. and autoremove just worked...
[13:46] <dabears> python 2.7, this script is compatable with python 3 also
[13:46] <Layke> I might have resolved it. I agree I neeed to do a disk check..
[13:47] <Layke> If that was suposed to be a text file, it definitely wasn't..
[13:47] <moppy> he has put a python2 shebang in, ubuntu has py2 installed as default
[13:47] <naquad> how do i troubleshoot a problem with plugged devices (usb flash drive) not shown in thunar? i've digged down to gvfs, but can't figure out what's wrong here. udisksd is running, gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor is running, but in the end i get "Could not detect the volume corresponding to the device." from thunar. that is GVolumeMonitor doesn't have that device. wtf?
[13:48] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, Thanks for all the help. I think removing that .list file resolved this issue. I'm back to my very original unable to install php5-gd now :)
[13:48] <Layke> php5-gd : Depends: php5-common (= 5.4.9-4ubuntu2) but 5.4.17~rc1-2~precise+1 is to be installed
[13:49] <Layke> Sounds like my php5-common is old? And I need to remove it?
[13:49] <Layke> And then reinstall from new repo?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> layke: i'd ignore that issue until you get the fsck done.     have you ppas instealled?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> installed*
[13:50] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, I did. But I removed everything earlier.
[13:50] <hipitihop> While doing a ./configure I get "No pkg-config for libgnutls" despite having libgnutls-dev installed. I'm on 12.04
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: how exactly did you remove the ppa?
[13:50] <Layke> rm -rf .../sources.list.d/
[13:51] <dabears> trijntje: what if pymount.desktop is not executing?
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: thats not how you remove a ppa.
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | Layke
[13:51] <trijntje> dabears: what do you think a .desktop file is?
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: you'll need to add in that repo again then run ppa-purge
[13:51] <Layke> Okay. :) Thanks.
[13:52] <Layke> I need to find out what PPA that was though I guess.
[13:52] <dabears> trijntje: I know what it is....just saying though...I mean the script executes fine on its own...you agreed with my path directory...I don't see what is different between my old server and this one
[13:52] <dabears> It should be executing, no?
[13:52] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: yup
[13:52] <dabears> trijntje: tell me what you think I did wrong and I will go back and look
[13:52] <trijntje> dabears: no, .desktop files should not execute. They are basically the icons you see in the Dash
[13:53] <dabears> trijntje: ah
[13:53] <dabears> trijntje: shouldn't they execute on startup?
[13:53] <trijntje> dabears: no
[13:53] <dabears> trijntje: that's what I did wrong, I am being a moron.
[13:54] <dabears> So, now that we have that established. How do I go about make the script execute on its own at startup? Because I did something very similar to this before to make it work
[13:54] <moppy> dabears, silly question is there some reason you cant mount from fstab?
[13:55] <moppy> dabears, is this sshfs or something?
[13:55] <dabears> moppy: yes, I am still new to computers. I just made a script to solve my problem xD
[13:55] <dabears> It works fine
[13:55] <moppy> dabears, i think this is an xy problem. there is almost certainly an easier way to do what you are trying to do. what are you trying to do?
[13:56] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, WORKING :) Thanks. All done. That was all painful.
[13:56] <dabears> moppy: mount my external hd's on startup
[13:56] <Layke> hitsujiTMO, Really appreciate.
[13:56] <hitsujiTMO> Layke: np
[13:56] <moppy> dabears, the normal way to do that is by putting entries in /etc/fstab file and letting the OS mount them automatically
[13:57] <dabears> moppy: i will look into that immediately, thanks
[13:57] <moppy> dabears, doesnt have to be immediate: if what you have works, that's fine
[13:58] <tom__> hello
[13:58] <moppy> dabears, so you are using python to issue the system "mount" commands?
[13:58] <dabears> moppy: Yes, but I made a huge security risk in my server....I hard coded my root password into the program
[13:59] <moppy> dabears, so if you are writing python just to issue the "mount" command, can you not just do that from a bash (shell) script?
[14:00] <Katerine> Hola
[14:00] <trijntje> dabears: no problem, I could also have spotted that we were talking about different things ;)
[14:00] <trijntje> but the correct way to do what you want is to put it in fstab
[14:00] <dabears> moppy: it isn't only mounting the hd's. trijntje: thanks for the help though. Learned a thing or two from this process
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> dabears: you could call from somewhere that its going to get called by root, such as in upstart or rc.local
[14:01] <naquad> where's complete description of groups for ubuntu (all those disk, cdrom, adm, etc...)?
[14:01] <dabears> hitsujiTMO: good idea
[14:01] <[Gentoo]> naquad: cat /etc/group
[14:01] <Katerine> Como Andan?
[14:01] <naquad> [Gentoo], *DESCRIPTION*
[14:01] <[Gentoo]> alright calm down
[14:02] <Foxtrot> lol
[14:03] <hitsujiTMO> naquad: i doubt there's a global description. many of the groups are created by individual packages and there would be a lot of legacy groups involved
[14:03] <naquad> ok, thanks
[14:03] <[Gentoo]> naquad: arch wiki has some
[14:03] <queretaro> Im trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 in my laptop and although my primary partition has the right boot flag my system wont boot up. Any ideas, guys_
[14:03] <[Gentoo]> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Users_and_Groups
[14:03] <[Gentoo]> but they vary
[14:03] <naquad> [Gentoo], i know
[14:03] <[Gentoo]> well what group do you want to know what it means
[14:03] <naquad> just wasn't sure its groups are 100% identical to ubuntus
[14:04] <naquad> i just can't figure out why the hell doesn't thunar show plugged usb sticks
[14:05] <linuxuz3r> on xubuntu?
[14:05] <linuxuz3r> it shows mine
[14:05] <[Gentoo]> ^ problem solved
[14:06] <hitsujiTMO> naquad: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/thunar the automounting info here might help
[14:06] <[Gentoo]> maybe both paste the output of groups
[14:06] <dabears> You guys should have seen me earlier though. For some reason my server kept throwing random characters at me in response to me using sudo...it would hang on reboot "repeatedly outputtin 'y'" it was so bizzare
[14:06] <dabears> I almost cried because I lost 3 days work
[14:06]  * moppy waves backup flag
[14:06] <dabears> also, I added the script to /etc/init.d for those of you that care.
[14:07] <goxl>  Ubuntu13 how to configure SDL2
[14:07] <dabears> moppy: yeah I had backups of what mattered, but the server software I had set up was gone. I guess it will be a faster process the second time through
[14:08] <moppy> dabears, i guess it will be a *documented" process the second time though :-)
[14:08] <dabears> moppy:iseewutyoudidthar
[14:08] <moppy> keep the notes with your backup, if you cant backup the server
[14:09] <dabears> moppy: good thing I didn't start on this software I got finished making my sequence diagrams for xD
[14:09] <dabears> I would have gone hulk on the server
[14:10] <dabears> or, should I say, cave man
[14:10] <dabears> I feel like that when the computer wont behave. I want to wear a leopard print  lynard
[14:11] <dabears> moppy: I am scared....I went to edit my sources.list and it's empty
[14:11] <dabears> What is going on..
[14:11] <moppy> dabears, sysADMIN is well named. Lots of record keeping  :-) Good luck with the rebuild and i hope you get it working (and document it for next time!)
[14:12] <dabears> haha thanks
[14:12] <moppy> dabears, always thought one of the bests for a sysadmin was "our server physically exploded ... how soon can you get us back online?"
[14:12] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:13] <szymek> HI
[14:13] <moppy> hello BluesKaj
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Hi moppy
[14:13] <geirha> dabears: What did you run with sudo exactly?
[14:14] <Pwnguin_> Hello, I want to uninstall Ubuntu in order to install Lubuntu, but I'm having a little difficulty with that so can somebody help me with it?
[14:14] <dabears> moppy: hahaha! that's fantastic.
[14:14] <xangua> Pwnguin_: what are you are having dificult with?
[14:14] <dabears> geirha: I ran sudo apt-get update/upgrade. Generic stuff
[14:14] <dabears> Commands plainly didn't work
[14:14] <dabears> It was so weird
[14:15] <Pwnguin_> basically I deleted the partition which I tought was Ubuntu
[14:15] <Pwnguin_> but Ubuntu is still working
[14:15] <Pwnguin_> and Windows 7 too
[14:15] <dabears> Pwnguin_: Ubuntu never dies. It only spreads. It has become self aware
[14:15] <Pwnguin_> i tried to download a program called OS-uninstaller too
[14:15]  * dabears Terminbuntu
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: how big was the partition that you deleted?
[14:15] <Pwnguin_> but it only works for live cd or something
[14:15] <Pwnguin_> I can't remember, hitsujiTMO, but smaller than the others
[14:16] <Pwnguin_> it might have been the Lubuntu OS that stopped working before so that i couldnt boot it anymore
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[14:16] <Pwnguin_> yes
[14:16] <geirha> dabears: Oh, you probably got a package conflict and answered, "yes, uninstall this bunch of important packages so that this new package can be installed"
[14:17] <Pwnguin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6468758/ here it is
[14:17] <geirha> dabears: Would most likely be a package from some PPA
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: i think its just you swap space that you deleted
[14:18] <Pwnguin_> uhmmm ok I guess
[14:18] <dabears> geirha: Love how that works. Then when I came here and tried to explain it to everyone. Everyone responded, :your key is stuck" Until after the 12th time I explained it in which someone else was like, "yeah your OS is borked. Not a hardware issue"
[14:18] <dabears> geirha: makes sense
[14:18] <Pwnguin_> should I reboot into Windows 7 and try to delete the actual partition of Ubuntu?
[14:18] <Pwnguin_> I don't want the files anymore so i dont need to backup btw
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: no, you may not be able to boot windows then since grub is probably what is loading windows
[14:19] <Pwnguin_> yes i read something about that
[14:19] <Pwnguin_> if i delete the partition then i will have to do some restore repair thing with windows
[14:20] <dabears> Also another crazy thing that happened...I bought a beagleboard over a year ago, designed this nice program to put on the OS I had for it...bought a bunch of other equipment so I could play with it....never could get this thing to power to the OS....then after 30 emails with liquidware they explain to me that they forgot to send me the headers for some piece on the board
[14:20] <dabears> better late than never, I guess
[14:20] <Pwnguin_> ok but it shouldnt be any problem to have 3 OSes on a dualboot right?
[14:20] <Pwnguin_> besides Lubuntu takes little space so it's ok i think
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: you'd need to reinstall the windows bootstrap
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: is this windows xp?
[14:20] <Pwnguin_> no windows 7
[14:21] <Pwnguin_> but another problem I have is that I have tried to install Lubuntu with an USB but I can't get it to work
[14:21] <Le_Bacon> My Xubuntu machine won't connect to wifi.  Now I know that it worked before, but it suddenly doesn't.
[14:23] <Le_Bacon> My Xubuntu machine won't connect to wifi.  Now I know that it worked before, but it suddenly doesn't.
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: from the win7 install disk get to the recover console and reinstall its mbr bootstrap http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/17521-how-fix-mbr-through-command-prompt.html       then load the lubuntu live cd. dont go to install, but instead load up gparted and delete the ubuntu partition. then go thru the installation steps for lubuntu and you should be fine
[14:24] <Pwnguin_> Okay, Hitsuji, but I don't have a CD I only have an USB
[14:24] <geirha> dabears: I guess I don't have to tell you that next time, hit q instead of y :)
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: yest that will do ofc
[14:24] <Le_Bacon> My Xubuntu machine won't connect to wifi.  Now I know that it worked before, but it suddenly doesn't.
[14:24] <Pwnguin_> And what about the win7 install disk, i dont think i have it anymore
[14:25] <Le_Bacon> My Xubuntu machine won't connect to wifi.  Now I know that it worked before, but it suddenly doesn't.
[14:25] <Le_Bacon> My Xubuntu machine won't connect to wifi.  Now I know that it worked before, but it suddenly doesn't.
[14:25] <xangua> !repeat | Le_Bacon
[14:25] <Adblocker> geirha: lol thanks
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: you can skip that step but it puts you in the dange of not having a working OS if the lubuntu install fails ( altho i'm guessing that its failing on the lack of free space)
[14:26] <Pwnguin_> whatever, this laptop is old garbage anyway
[14:27] <xangua> Pwnguin_: you could have just installed lubuntu-desktop package from the beggining instead of messing aroung with your partitions
[14:27] <Pwnguin_> so how can I install lubuntu because I've tried but it has not showed up as an option on the dualboot
[14:27] <Pwnguin_> xangua I don't understand what you mean
[14:28] <xh> I guess he means that you neednt delete anything
[14:28] <hever> Hello, I switched to lxdm as windowmanager, awesome is in the session list, but if I select it, openbox starts. I'm quite confused. I checked the xsession files but they look ok, any ideas ????
[14:28] <xangua> that you didn't have to uninstall any os or anything to beggin with
[14:28] <xangua> Pwnguin_:
[14:28] <Adblocker> Pwnguin_: what's wrong? Not to butt in. Why are you calling your laptop names?
[14:28] <Pwnguin_> no that's fine I can keep Ubuntu still
[14:29] <Pwnguin_> but my real problem is that I can't install Lubuntu
[14:29] <Adblocker> Pwnguin_: Why do you say that?
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: it cant find windows because it doesnt see the windows boot strap is my guess. delete the ubuntu partition and the extended partition before running the installer. it will install lubuntu into the free spave then. from there you can run boot repair to add windows to the grub list
[14:29] <Pwnguin_> Sprry Adblocker but thats just my honest feeling
[14:29] <xangua> !info lubuntu-desktop | Pwnguin_
[14:30] <Pwnguin_> No, Hitsuji, on the dualboot I have the options of Ubuntu and Windows 7 + ubuntu with advanced options or something more..
[14:30] <Pwnguin_> But I can't find Lubuntu
[14:30] <Pwnguin_> that's the problem
[14:30] <Adblocker> Pwnguin_: You choose Ubuntu and in grub you should get the Lubuntu option
[14:30] <Adblocker> At least, that's what I remember
[14:31] <hever> Hello, I switched to lxdm as windowmanager, awesome is in the session list, but if I select it, openbox starts. I'm quite confused. I checked the xsession files but they look ok, any ideas ????
[14:31] <Pwnguin_> Okay, adblocker, but when I select ubuntu and press enter it just starts up
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: its probably reffering to lubuntu as ubuntu
[14:31] <Pwnguin_> how do i get into "grub" i dont know much about it
[14:31] <Pwnguin_> no really, I'm using Ubuntu now
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> Pwnguin_: do you mean its not booting the live usb?
[14:32] <Pwnguin_> yes exactly
[14:32] <Pwnguin_> i have tried to change the boot order but still
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> how did you create the live usb?
[14:32] <angela_> quick question, what privilege does a user need in order to run a service XXX start/stop command?
[14:32] <Pwnguin_> ummm I just downloaded it from the official websites
[14:32] <Adblocker> Pwnguin_: ok so when you boot you should be presented with the windows boot manager. You should see Windows and Ubuntu. When you choose ubuntu you will be presented with something similiar to windows boot manager called grub. It will have various boot options.
[14:33] <Pwnguin_> I used  UNetbootin
[14:33] <Adblocker> If you are just trying to boot from the flash drive you just need to change your bios or choose it directly during your startup
[14:33] <Pwnguin_> when I choose ubuntu, ubuntu starts up, i dont get any boot options other than that
[14:33] <mao> unetbootin is not good for all linux disco..
[14:33] <Pwnguin_> and i have changed the bios boot order
[14:34] <Adblocker> Pwnguin_: hold shift when you choose ubuntu
[14:34] <Pwnguin_> ok I will try that then
[14:34] <Pwnguin_> thanks for the help
[14:34] <Pwnguin_> everybody
[14:34] <Adblocker> Pwnguin_: np.   Now I know that it worked before, but it suddenly doesn't.
[14:46] <xh> Is there sth wrong with your wifi? Does your phone connect sucessfully?
[14:50] <hever> Hello the session selection in lxdm doesn't work. I'm just logged in to lxde in every case... what might that be?
[14:51] <awesomess3> I think my FlashPlayer_10_2_159_1 on my Ubuntu 10.04 got hacked :'(
[14:51] <awesomess3> on Firefox
[14:52] <awesomess3> I was on YouTube and it errored out in the middle of my video
[14:52] <awesomess3> And then firefox started to get real slow from then on until I `mv ~/.mozilla/plugins/flash* ~/`
[14:52] <bekks> awesomess3: "flash got hacked" sounds...unlikely. Most likely, ther was just some error.
[14:53] <awesomess3> I hope so :(((
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> awesomess3: most likely its to do with the fact that your running an outdated version of flash on an outdated system
[14:54] <awesomess3> I think it was the NSA http://nation.time.com/2013/11/04/google-shocked-the-nsa-hacked-its-servers/
[14:55] <awesomess3> I did a `ps ax` and the plugin was running for no reason.
[14:55] <bekks> awesomess3: It was you.  And you didnt specify the error you got.
[14:55] <bekks> awesomess3: It was. It crashed and wasnt killed properly. Nothing to do with the NSA.
[14:56] <awesomess3> The plugin was running when I `kill *` all firefox stuff. And restarted.
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> awesomess3: you killed firefox not flash
[14:57] <ResQue> my system seem to just freeze on the startup screen, the last message i can see is "Stoping mount networking filesystem [ok]"
[14:57] <bekks> awesomess3: Desktop support for 10.04 ended in April this year. Update to 12.04 at least to get a supported system.
[14:57] <awesomess3> I should've did a `ps ax | less` to see what was running.
[14:57] <rwc2> have a nic either partially or fully disabled in bios (the most possible disablement), but rfkill list all shows hard blocked: no.  can i get hard blocked: yes through the software
[14:57] <gordonjcp> rwc2: disabled and hard blocked are not the same thing
[14:58] <pimme> Im trying to setup a pptp server, i can connect to it and receive a new internal ip. But i cant connect to other computers on the network, Im i using wrong protocol for this task?
[14:58] <rwc2> gordonjcp, is there a command for hard blocking
[14:58] <ikonia> pimme: what do you mean can't connect it to other computers, it is connected if you are connecting to it and getting an IP
[14:58] <rwc2> with rfkill
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> pimme: did you setup a NAT when setting up pptp? most likely you've set that instead of bridged networking
[15:02] <niee> Hi folks :)) Anyone to help me pls? How to format my USB Hard Drive to use live-usb-install.
[15:03] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: do you have a physical button for the wifi?
[15:03] <niee> The program "live-usb-install" not detect my HDD
[15:04] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, no
[15:04] <pimme> hitsujiTMO: Can i check this with a command? Im a total newbie and just followed i Tutorial...
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> pimme: can you link the tutorial?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> !unetbootin | niee.
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: can you start with pastebining: rfkill list          then toggle your fn+f2 or whatever acpi key you have  and then re pastebin: rfkill list
[15:06] <geoffmcc> pimme: It has been a while, but this is the tut i used. This will tell you how to setup bridged VPN.  bridged VPN allows the clients to appear as though they are on the same local area network (LAN) as the server system.
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: can you also pastebin: sudo lshw -C network
[15:06] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, ill have to google what you mean with acpi key
[15:07] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: normally you have some sort of keyboard shortcut for the wifi: fn+f2 is pretty standard
[15:07] <geoffmcc> pimme: oops, that was for old ubuntu. For ubuntu 12.04 https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html
[15:07] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, oooh
[15:07] <onpon4> Can someone check if something works on Ubuntu 12.04? I have a problem in a derivative (Trisquel 6) and I want to see if it's a problem upstream or not.
[15:09] <pimme> hitsujiTMO: Oh.. It was NAT config. I will try out geoffmcc tutorial =)
[15:10] <geoffmcc> pimme: just wanted to make sure you seen the second link, as the first was for an outdated version...
[15:11] <xkernel> Flash crashes on ubuntu 13.10
[15:12] <bekks> xkernel: For me, it works fine.
[15:12] <xkernel> bekks, it was working fine since I installed 13.10 but from yesterday it's crashing on either FF or Crhome
[15:12] <xkernel> chrome
[15:13] <pimme> geoffmcc: Yeah got it. Thx for the help!
[15:13] <bekks> xkernel: Then disable the Adobe Flash plugin, and enable the PepperFlash plugin v11.9 in Chrome.
[15:19] <demirulez> Hi all, i'm unable to wake up my PC from suspend using the USB mouse. Trying this solution on Ubuntu 12.04.3 but no luck: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/220-ubuntu-resume-usb-hid . I can only resume through PWR Button, here are some logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6468990/
[15:19] <demirulez> Any help is appreciated thanks
[15:20] <xkernel> what does this mean "[pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to create secure directory (/run/user/1000/pulse): Permission denied" ?
[15:20] <awesomess3> demirulez, is sleeping the same as suspension? Because on my Windows 8 I have to hit the POWER button in order to wake it up.
[15:22] <demirulez> awesomess3: yes i'm referring to standby, not hybernation. By the way i tried resuming from suspend with USB mouse under Windows 7 and it's working, so it isn't a BIOS setting neither
[15:23] <adanoob> hi all, need help with nvidia drivers and xconfig, Dell laptop with external monitor, under Guest user all is fine, I get use of both screens, under my user I get blank screen - help !! TIA
[15:24] <theadmin> adanoob: Tried simply looking in System Settings -> Displays? One of them may be disabled.
[15:25] <pimme> exit
[15:25] <adanoob> yes, it seems main laptop screen might be disabled, but only under my user, not under guest, but I think Guest doesn't have access to seetings
[15:25] <Adblocker> Hey guys. What do you think the best server software is to run in ubuntu? I am not doing anything sophisticated, just a web page.
[15:26] <adanoob> is that changeable directly under xorg.config ?
[15:26] <Adblocker> I don't want to use apache
[15:26] <jinglescafe> I want to disable users / guests from installing software.
[15:26] <jinglescafe> how do i do that
[15:26] <bekks> !best | adanoob
[15:26] <bekks> jinglescafe: Users/guests have no permissions to install software.
[15:26] <bekks> jinglescafe: Did you reinstall all clients, since your network intrusion yesterday?
[15:26] <jinglescafe> it asks for password, its the same password as the user
[15:27] <jinglescafe> The IT guy came in  and said everything is fine.
[15:27] <bekks> I bet thats a lie. :)
[15:27] <jinglescafe> we did reinstall ubuntu on a computer
[15:28] <bekks> Yesterday you told us the IT guy will come over in more than a week, didnt you?
[15:28] <Togusa> everything's fine! ..."the cd tray starts moving furiously"
[15:28] <jinglescafe> i have jingle user with password, but I want that password not to work to install software
[15:28] <Adblocker> query jinglescafe
[15:28] <jinglescafe> I had to pay him extra to come
[15:28] <bekks> adanoob: There is no need to query me, keep it in the channel please.
[15:28] <adanoob> again I was not querying
[15:28] <adanoob> you that is
[15:29] <bekks> jinglescafe: And did you check every single computer?
[15:29] <jinglescafe> so how do i stop user from installing software?
[15:29] <adanoob> I was just making a case that I did not merit that thing you did
[15:29] <jinglescafe> he checked them.
[15:29] <bekks> adanoob: You wrote a query to me.  Users dont have an account permitted to sudo.
[15:30] <adanoob> bekks: I wrote a query to you ? was not aware of that
[15:31] <adanoob> theadmin: can you help me re-enable my main laptop screen via command line ? TIA
[15:31] <jinglescafe> ok, the login is jingels1, password is jingles1 , it is the same password to install software
[15:31] <bekks> adanoob: Thats why I told you that there is no reason to do so, and that you please keep it in the channel. I didnt even read your query, since it was unwanted.
[15:31] <jinglescafe> I want different password
[15:31] <bekks> jinglescafe: ROFLMAO.
[15:31] <jinglescafe> but not to login
[15:31] <cezal> necesito ayuda. mi pc arranca con volumen al maximo
[15:31] <bekks> jinglescafe: You actually give your users the password of the main account of the computer?
[15:31] <demirulez> any suggestions regarding my pm-suspend issue please?
[15:31] <Togusa> jinglescafe: you have to remove your user from the group that allows you to use sudo
[15:31] <bekks> jinglescafe: You shoudl create a _guest_ account.
[15:32] <Togusa> it's probably the "sudo" group
[15:32] <Togusa> you can view the rules with this command: sudo visudo
[15:33] <sperrhaken> jinglescafe: `sudo' and `admin' group according to /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/51-ubuntu-admin.conf , at least on 12.04
[15:33] <zykotick9> sperrhaken: it's just sudo
[15:33] <Togusa> do keep in mind that by doing so, you will no longer be able to use sudo
[15:33] <bekks> jinglescafe: Reinstall ALL computers, and create an account "admin" when being asked. Keep the password secret, dont tell it anyone. Then, create a an account named "customer" and give it the password "customer". Do not add "customer" to the sudo group.
[15:33] <Togusa> and you'll have to use 'su'
[15:33] <adanoob> theadmin: hope you my last request to you re re-enable screen
[15:34] <jinglescafe> okay, i will try
[15:34] <bekks> jinglescafe: Anything else is unsafe, since all your customers dont even have to "hack" you, since they do know the administrative password.
[15:34] <Togusa> jinglescafe: on a side note, check out "tripwire"
[15:34] <jinglescafe> my customers will never hack me, they are just young children mostly!
[15:34] <bekks> jinglescafe: Yesterday, one did.
[15:35] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, any comments?
[15:35] <Togusa> you can replicate the base system on a VM, create a database, then use it on the machines you think are no longer safe (offline, possibly)
[15:35] <geoffmcc> jinglescafe: you should never trust any user for any reason really
[15:35] <bekks> jinglescafe: You should learn from that instead trying to secure compromised computers and sticking to some policy which isnt even worth to be called secure.
[15:35] <jinglescafe> I can not get hacked, I got a link sys firewall router
[15:35] <bekks> jinglescafe: ROFLMAO.
[15:35] <sperrhaken> zykotick9: Doesn't the daemon request permission via polkit?  I guess the default user created during installation is usually not in the admin group, but it is part of `AdminIdentities'.
[15:35] <zykotick9> bekks: ;)
[15:36] <geoffmcc> I do believe jinglescafe is trolling at this point
[15:36] <bekks> jinglescafe: Of course that small soho thingie can be hacked. In minutes, literally.
[15:36] <theadmin> Agreed. Exterminate!
[15:36] <bekks> geoffmcc: Seems so, yes.
[15:36] <prokop> hello, pls, how i can sync sw between 2 PCs over Ubuntu SW center? Both logged on Ubuntu One account, both turned on, but I can't see differents in SW...  Ubuntu v13.10
[15:37] <theadmin> prokop: Go to the "Installed" page, and enable Sync between computers in the File menu. Then you will see software from all your computers.
[15:38] <jinglescafe> i tried tripwire and i t didn't work
[15:38] <bekks> jinglescafe: Then you didnt configure it correctly.
[15:38] <prokop> admin: I have it so, but I see only current pc on both PCs
[15:38] <prokop> theadmin: I have it so, but I see only current pc on both PCs
[15:38] <bekks> jinglescafe: First, reinstall all your computers as I told you. Otherwise, you will run compromised computers - and personally, I will not support you doing so.
[15:39] <Togusa> he's just trolling =)
[15:39] <Togusa> jinglescafe: try with more unicorns
[15:40] <bekks> and circles of salt around them.
[15:40] <theadmin> prokop: Uh. Well, there should be a bar on the left where you can choose the PC you want to view the software on.
[15:40] <jinglescafe> I will use my clonezilla box to pxe install all the computers
[15:40] <prokop> theadmin: I know... but there is only current pc, not the second or others what I see on my Ubuntu One page
[15:41] <bekks> jinglescafe: Install a clean instance, not some existing box.
[15:41] <theadmin> prokop: Hm. That's weird. I dunno why that might happen.
[15:41] <prokop> theadmin: both are logged on same account in Ubuntu one
[15:41] <jinglescafe> what version should i use , preferably with a good working Firefox
[15:41] <theadmin> prokop: It *should* work, maybe the sync servers are down? I'm not sure if there are specific ones for that, though
[15:41] <prokop> theadmin: could it be with my home network?
[15:41] <zykotick9> prokop: you might want to ask in the #ubuntuone channel?
[15:41] <jojoa1997> can someone help me with installing propriety driver?
[15:42] <prokop> zykotick9: ok, thx, I didnt know about this channel, I installed Ubuntu 2 days before, thx
[15:42] <bekks> jinglescafe: 12.04
[15:42] <prokop> theadmin: thx u
[15:43] <jojoa1997> i have ubuntu 13.10 and a readon 4025 card
[15:43] <jojoa1997> or is it 4250
[15:44] <jinglescafe> one of the patrons said elementaryos, other said fedora.
[15:44] <jojoa1997> can anyone help? the internet didnt do me any good
[15:45] <ikonia> jinglescafe: where is the photo
[15:45] <ikonia> jinglescafe: you never sent the photo of your "hacked" internet cafe
[15:46] <jinglescafe> i sent it to rory like he asked
[15:46] <ikonia> no you didn't
[15:46] <bekks> jinglescafe: rory never got something, so you didnt send it.
[15:46] <ikonia> jinglescafe: the questions/attitude you are showing in this channel makes it hard to believe what you are saying is true and that you are not just trolling this channel for fun/to waste time
[15:46] <bekks> jinglescafe: Which "patrons"?
[15:48] <pfifo> Hi everyone
[15:48] <gassho> hi pfifo
[15:48] <demolition_> Hi pfifio.
[15:49] <adanoob> guys, i really need some help, why would a screen work under Guest but be blanked under my user ? X settings seen under Guest seems fine...
[15:49] <demolition_> Vanilla icecream is good.
[15:50] <pfifo> adanoob: have you tried deleting your ~/.Xauthority file and then logging in?
[15:50] <jinglescafe> okay, i posted pic
[15:50] <jinglescafe> http://bit.ly/cijpal
[15:50] <adanoob> pfifo: no, will attempt that thanks
[15:51] <demolition_> Have you tried deleting /ubuntu from a command prompt?
[15:52] <adanoob> pfifo: deleted file, now rebooting
[15:53] <geoffmcc> adanoob: nvidia?
[15:53] <adanoob> geoffmcc: yes, nvidia
[15:53] <demirulez> Hi all, i'm unable to wake up my PC from suspend using the USB mouse. Trying this solution on Ubuntu 12.04.3 but no luck: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/220-ubuntu-resume-usb-hid . I can only resume through PWR Button, here are some logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6468990/
[15:53] <geoffmcc> adanoob: you said you have a monitor hooked up as well right?
[15:53] <demolition_> Nvidia works better on Xubuntu for me than my Ati 4550.
[15:54] <adanoob> geoffmcc: yes but it's having other issues as well, I only get an image on it intermittenly (not a problem witrh the monitor) maybe.. with the VGA port
[15:54] <geoffmcc> adanoob: so your using vga and not dvi then
[15:54] <adanoob> pfifo: even with .Xauth deleted, screen still comes up blank
[15:55] <adanoob> geoffmcc: yes, definitely
[15:55] <geoffmcc> adanoob: okay, not what i was thinking.
[15:55] <adanoob> geoffmcc: my laptop does not even have a dvi outport
[15:55] <pfifo> adanoob: create a new user and see it the new user operata\es properly
[15:56] <adanoob> pfifo:  is that really needed? I mean, user guest works just fine
[15:56] <adanoob> pfifo: can I create a new user with user Guest ?
[15:56] <bekks> adanoob: no.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 on the login scren, you can login there and create a user. Or su to your user then make a user in the terminal
[15:58] <pfifo> adanoob: id say start a fresh home directory, something with your dot files is causing problems
[15:58] <adanoob> oh boy.. ok looking up how to create new user with command line
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Pfifo: what is the issue?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | adanoob easy
[15:59] <lostincake> hello
[15:59] <pfifo> ActionParsnip: adanoob, upon logging in, is presented with a completly blank screen... however his guest account works fine.
[15:59] <pfifo> ActionParsnip: hows it going
[15:59] <lostincake> so, by trying to upgrade to boost 1.54  ... I've broken apt-get
[15:59] <lostincake> now it wont remove or add anything :/
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Pfifo: thanks. Yeah not bad. Just watched the rugby. Annoying
[16:00] <adanoob> ok, how do I got back to the GUI logon screen - from the current command line ?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: what session do you log into? Which release?
[16:00] <pfifo> ctrl-alt-f7
[16:00] <adanoob> latest 13.x release went there via Ctl+Alt+f1
[16:00] <zykotick9> pfifo alt+f7 really ;)
[16:01] <adanoob> no, if I ctl-alt-f7 I go back to my blank screen remember ? :-)
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: install xfce4 in your console, then log into thatbsession. Is it ok?
[16:01] <rwc2> any comments to my above post?
[16:01] <lostincake> getting "trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/quickbook', which is also in package libboost1.53-tools-dev 1.53.0-6+exp3ubuntu8"
[16:01] <lostincake> seems like a "Fix was released" but not sure what that means
[16:01] <adanoob> what? install xfce ? I rather reboot sheesh...
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Lostincake: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: you can use the xfce session to resolve the issue with your account. Please learn to read between the lines a little
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: think about it
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: what is the issue
[16:03] <sandman13> why can't i reset unity?
[16:03] <bekks> sandman13: "Reset" in what way?
[16:03] <lostincake> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> i guess there's the command 'unity --reset'
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Sandman13: sure you can, its software wiyh stored settings. Why would you not be ablento reset settings in any OS for any application
[16:04] <rwc2> ActionParsnip, i am trying to have rfkill list all say 'hard blocked: yes' for all.  here are two pastes separated by '-------------------', one with wifi toggle key off, the second with it on, thanks http://pastebin.com/btebEYcs
[16:04] <sandman13> ActionParsnip it freezes says no core found and something like that
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Lostincake: you can force install the deb and the file crossover will be ignored
[16:05] <lostincake> just through dpkg?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Lostincake: yes
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: how are you trying to reset unity? ans what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: why are you using sudo if you are root?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:06] <niru> hii
[16:06] <rwc2> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> rwc2  no need for sudo, if you are root
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: does the system have a switch or shortcut combo to activate/deactivate wifi?
[16:07] <rwc2> MonkeyDust, k
[16:07] <niru> hhh
[16:08] <sandman13> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 13.10 using command "sudo unity reset"
[16:08] <rwc2> ActionParsnip, only a keyboard toggle, which doesn't make hard blocked: yes.  anything i can disable in the bios is diabled also
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: that is not the correct way: read http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[16:08] <rwc2> disabled*
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: try: sudo rfkill unblock all
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: can you pastebin the output of  modinfo ath9k
[16:09] <adanoob> boy oh boy.. so I adduser guest2, then attmpt to log in and I get a blank screen for 2 or 3 seconds and then I get back to the login screen...
[16:10] <geoffmcc> adanoob: are you using opensource drivers or nvidia binary?
[16:10] <sandman13> hitsujiTMO: but i reset it earlier using that command
[16:10] <adanoob> geoffmcc: no, the proprietaryones dont remember if 304 or the 17x something
[16:11] <geoffmcc> adanoob: have you tried sudo nvidia-xconfig?
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: the command you are thinking of is: unity --reset                and that is for pre 13.04.     you just reran unity and got lucky
[16:11] <adanoob> geoffmcc: yes, it wrote a brand new xorg.conf, tand it seems fine and it still works under guest user, not under my user
[16:12] <lostincake> ActionParsnip, http://hastebin.com/raw/sikiyukuqa  --- stll the same problem
[16:12] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, i added it to my first paste at the top http://pastebin.com/LsrqRetJ
[16:12] <gartral> adanoob: 13.04 or 13.10?
[16:12] <adanoob> gartral: 13.10
[16:12] <awesomess3> adanoob, maybe try adding groups to your user as guest is associated with?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Lostincake: add the option: --force-all
[16:12] <gartral> adanoob: upgrade or fresh?
[16:12] <theadmin> sandman13: To reset Unity on 13.04 and up, do dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[16:13] <sandman13> running that theadmin
[16:13] <adanoob> gartral: its a fresh one, but note It has been running fine for some time now, then suddenly...
[16:13] <adanoob> gartral: well, fresh one with a /user from a prior version
[16:13] <gartral> adanoob: Ah.. and let me guess.. when you log in to your user, the screen blanks for a few seconds and returns you to login promt, yea?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: if you use xfce it is not compoziting and will be ok. You can then use the session to remove the Compiz or Unitybsettings then log off and log in to the Unity session and uninstall xfce. Makes sense to me
[16:14] <adanoob> gartral: yep thats it with the new created user, with my existing user just gets blank and strays there
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: can you try: sudo modprobe ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: have you also ran: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[16:15] <gartral> adanoob: .Xauthority corruption!
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: make sure you own all your home directory
[16:15] <lostincake> ActionParsnip, --force-depends?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Lostincake: --force-all
[16:15] <adanoob> no of course not, its not described in the pages I've seen, but ok, will try that . suppose you mean that for the newly created user right ?
[16:15] <gartral> adanoob: before trying ActionParsnip try sudo rm /home/(your bad user)/.Xauthority*
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: do you run commands like 'sudo nautilus' and 'sudo gedit'
[16:16] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, hard blocked: no still after issuing that command
[16:16] <adanoob> huh wait now I'm lost
[16:16] <lostincake> ActionParsnip, thanks much
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: reboot to test
[16:16] <lostincake> doing sudo apt-get install -f after that seemed to do the trick
[16:16] <rwc2> ActionParsnip, k
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: do you run commands like the ones i gave?
[16:17] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, what command would i use to reverse that, though?
[16:17] <adanoob> gartral: which one of the bad users ? my user with blank or the new guest2 user with blank then login screen ?
[16:17] <sandman13> hitsujiTMO: ran into after completing the steps but it did the work
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> rcw2: that won't persist a reboot
[16:17] <gartral> adanoob: do that for both
[16:17] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, can you elaborate?
[16:17] <adanoob> gartral: I've already traied that for my user, did nothing
[16:17] <adanoob> tried
[16:18] <gartral> adanoob: then try it for your guest that's borked
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: that command is only for that instance. it is cleared when you reboot
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: run the chown command i gave
[16:18] <truebattleaxe> is anyone using mir?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> truebattleaxe  #ubuntu-mir
[16:18] <adanoob> ActionParsnip: you have to describe that in more baby steps please
[16:18] <truebattleaxe> thanks monkey :P
[16:18] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, ActionParsnip is suggesting i reboot, why?
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | truebattleaxe
[16:19] <adanoob> ActionParsnip: a lot of assumptions in there
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: aplies the setting to the module
[16:19] <gartral> last ActionParsnip
[16:19] <gartral> oops
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: its a terminal command so its copying and pasting text. You can do that, right?
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: no. that command loads the module with that settings at that moment
[16:19] <gartral> have you also ran: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER  $HOME
[16:20] <gartral> adanoob: ^^^
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Hitsujitmo: ahh misread, thought you added it to a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d
[16:20] <adanoob> under shich user you want me to run that command ? am I supposed to replace USER with something ?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: no run it as is
[16:20] <adanoob> under which user ?
[16:20] <adanoob> my user ?
[16:21] <Laban> Does anyone in here know how best to copy loads of files that are hardlinked to eachother over to another machine?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: yes. The user with issues
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: can you tell me why you're trying to get:   hard blocked: yes ????
[16:21] <Laban> I'm using rsnapshot for backup and I need to replace the backup server.
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: are you trying to disable the wifi?
[16:21] <Laban> So I want to transfer the daily backups and preserve links.
[16:22] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, yes
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: you can blacklist ath9k and then no driver will load for that wifi adapter. will that do?
[16:22] <Adblocker> Hey guys. Does ubuntu no longer support thttpd?
[16:22] <theadmin> Laban: rsync has a "-l" option which will copy links as links.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> !info thttpd
[16:23] <adanoob> ok
[16:23] <theadmin> Adblocker: What is "thttpd"?
[16:23] <adanoob> ran the chown command, then what ? reboot ?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Adblocker: let me check for changelog
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: yes
[16:23] <streulma> hello, what is the best settings for Ubuntu 13.10 on a Macbook Pro Retina 15 inch, 2800px width ?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/
[16:24] <gartral> theadmin: dunno that one, but the sound I made pronouncing it sounded like a bottle of water falling down steps
[16:24] <Laban> theadmin: Hm... I will have to look at that.
[16:24] <Adblocker> ActionParsnip: Do you have any replacement suggestions? theadmin: It is a simple web server
[16:24] <streulma> I like to run Ubuntu on my Macbook Pro
[16:24] <awesomess3> Adblocker, looks like you'll have to install thttpd a different way: https://github.com/skybert/ece-scripts/issues/81
[16:24] <theadmin> Adblocker: lighttpd is very light, too.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Adblocker: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thttpd/+changelog
[16:25] <mguy> How light is say nginx in comparison?
[16:25] <A-L-G> I would use xammap for the web server
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Adblocker: apache2 maybe
[16:25] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, i'd also like to increase security by blocking wifi penetration, i see hard-blocked: no as a security issue, even through soft-blocked: yes.  is blacklisting ath9k the best i can do via software?
[16:26] <theadmin> A-L-G: XAMPP is not a webserver, it's a LAMP-pack. And it's recommended against using it on Ubuntu.
[16:26] <adanoob> ActionParsnip: rebooted, still blank screen  (all my files in $HOME were alreasy owned by my user)
[16:26] <truebattleaxe> oh ya i did have an issue. when I updated everything on kde  somehow i lost the volume control on the top bar.  I also am unable to use the volume controls on my keyboard. however it works in gnome
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: do you run GUI commands withbsudo, like nautilus?
[16:26] <adanoob> don't think so can try
[16:26] <A-L-G> or you can do it mysql php5 and all that but if you not that good at ubuntu i would just do xmmap
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Truebattleaxe: could use alsamixer in terminal
[16:27] <adanoob> gsudo nautilus right ?
[16:27] <rwc2> ActionParsnip, once i reboot, do you expect i might not have wifi?  if so, can you tell me how i can undo 'modprobe ath9k nohwcrypt=1' via the terminal
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: no, its a question not an instruction
[16:27] <theadmin> adanoob: Do *not* run GUI commands with sudo, it's not recommended. It just might be the cause of your issue.
[16:27] <truebattleaxe> thanks actionparsnip i'll try that right now
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: if it was just that then it is not persistant
[16:28] <adanoob> ActionParsnip: I was asking because I have to test to reply to you no ?
[16:29] <adanoob> ActionParsnip: which command do I run in order to test if I can run GUI programs (under my user I suppose)
[16:29] <rwc2> ActionParsnip, sorry, what is not then persistant
[16:29] <gartral> adanoob: try gksudo
[16:29] <alexandros_c> I need help cups is not recognizing my user name and password in ubuntu gnome 13.10 can anyone help me?
[16:29] <adanoob> cannot open display
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: if the wifi adapter is soft blocked then it is disabled. soft and hard blocks are references to 2 different types of disabling methods for wifi adapters, not 2 different levels of disabling. hard bock refers to a hardware block ( physical switch ) where soft block refers to a soft key disbling ( acpi key / fn + f2)   the reason why you can't enable hard block is possibly because there is no hard block interface for that wifi adapter..
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> .. either way soft black is enough
[16:30] <adanoob> Gtk-WARNING: cannot open display
[16:30] <gordonjcp> adanoob: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: the command and setting are not stored, there are ways to make it persistant
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Rwc2: but that isnt
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> rwc2: if you want to permanently disable the the hardware then blacklisting the driver is enough. The kernel cannot interface with the divice if it has not driver to allow it to communicate with the device
[16:32] <ResQue> i just booted up my ubuntu 13.10 but i dont see a gui only a terminal tty1 the last message on screen is "starting lightdm display manager". could someone please help me
[16:32] <anders2123131> hello! I'm having trouble with my new ubuntu install. when installing the nvidia drivers I get a blank screen when booting in to the log screen. I've tried editing /etc/X11/xconf and setting UseDisplayDevice to DFP, but that doesnt work. I also tried setting it to CRT, but then I got could not write bytes: broken pipe. I've also tried another solution which involves purging nvidia drivers and
[16:32] <anders2123131> reinstalling, with no luck. also I cant get into recovery mode (holding shift during boot doesn't work...)
[16:32] <adanoob> ActionParsnip: gordonjcp I have a .Xsession-errors with following: init: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning (several lines), then final line saying respawning too fast, stopped
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: great. Use that to search online to see what it means
[16:33] <pfifo> alexandros_c: try 'sudo system-config-printer'
[16:33] <anders2123131> I have a lap top with geforce 765M
[16:33] <geoffmcc> adanoob: have you tried sudo mv .Xauthority .XauthorityBak
[16:34] <adanoob> geoffmcc: basically deleting the thing rigt ?
[16:34] <zykotick9> pfifo: is system-config-printer a GUI application?  if so, DON'T suggest/use sudo with it, use gksudo instead
[16:34] <adanoob> geoffmcc: basically deleting the thing right ?
[16:34] <geoffmcc> adanoob: and then restart
[16:34] <geoffmcc> adanoob: well it will save it with .bak at end and at reboot will recreate
[16:34] <adanoob> but I've done that  before
[16:34] <adanoob> yes I figured that much :-)
[16:34] <adanoob> but I've done that before, served noting
[16:34] <adanoob> but I've done that before, served nothing
[16:34] <adanoob> but
[16:34] <adanoob> can do that again
[16:35] <geoffmcc> adanoob: okay, cause i found http://askubuntu.com/questions/146137/login-screen-loops-unless-you-login-as-guest and i know you said your new account created was stuck in login loop
[16:35] <ResQue> i am having issues booting the ubunt live dvd, all i get is a blank screen. i added the nomodeset and nouveau.modeset=0 as a kernel param and that got me as far as the tty but still no gui? i am not sure what to do next
[16:35] <geoffmcc> adanoob: if you have done already, dont bother
[16:35] <alexandros_c> thanks pfifo
[16:35] <pfifo> alexandros_c: try 'gksudo system-config-printer' (happy zykotick9?)
[16:35] <BluesKaj> ResQue. startx
[16:36] <BluesKaj> ResQue. if that fials , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , then run startx again
[16:37] <dewdude> Hi, i've got PPTPD running on my machine; and so far I've been able to connect to it locally; but I'm trying to figure out the iptables rule for making sure they're also internet access over it....i mostly want to use it as a way of just plunking an extra computer on the lan.
[16:37] <ResQue> BluesKaj: thank you i will give that a try now
[16:37] <geoffmcc> adanoob: after you did that did you try your guest2 account to see if display worked or was it before you created the new guest2 account
[16:37] <dewdude> my issue is I have a network bridge running wlan0 to eth0; do i assign the iptables rules to br0 or keep them on eth0?
[16:37] <adanoob> geoff. was before guest2
[16:38] <adanoob> geoffmcc: Guest2 still doesn't work, and my user after deleting .Xauthority is in same condition
[16:39] <ANub> hey guys!! pk.archive.ubuntu.com is down for some months now. How to inform ubuntu to remove it from its databases???
[16:39] <geoffmcc> adanoob: i had a problem with blank screen after login when first started using 13.10. but what worked for me did not seem to work for you. I am going to bail out now, dont want to cause you more issues
[16:39] <rwc2> hitsujiTMO, ActionParsnip, thanks
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Anub: switch server to the main server. Maybe its just been worked on presently
[16:40] <adanoob> ok, changing strategies, how do I go back to standard non-accelrated drivers from tre command line ?
[16:40] <geoffmcc> adanoob: only other suggestion would be http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: what video chip do you use?
[16:41] <adanoob> don't know at the top of my head besides Nvidia
[16:41] <zykotick9> adanoob: step 1) mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup 2) remove the blacklist for nouveau (sorry i don't remember the file)
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: echo "blacklist nvidia" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Adanoob: rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have one
[16:42] <adanoob> oh I have plenty of backups
[16:42] <zykotick9> adanoob: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (thank you ActionParsnip) remove the blacklist nouveau from that file (you DON'T need to blacklist nvidia)
[16:43] <ANub_> hey guys!! pk.archive.ubuntu.com is down for some months now. How to inform ubuntu to remove it from its databases???
[16:43] <adanoob> one minut while I painstakinglycopy the instruction for one PC to another
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Anub_: i suggest you report a bug. Might be a DNS issue
[16:44] <Laban> theadmin: rsync -l for symlinks and -H for hardlinks... Only problem then is that I cannot take the whole backup-folder all at once. The machine runs out of ram.
 it is resolved all right.............perhaps hosting company has forgotten about it..:)
[16:45] <Laban> It's about a million files, times 40 copies, so it needs to keep track of a few link entries...
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Anub_: how do you know? Are youbaware of what the right IP should be?
 I'm aware about the company and their IP ranges
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Anub_: if it resolves it doesnt mean it will work. You could be getting the wrong IP via DNS and it needs updating on the authoritive server
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Anub_: then report a bug
[16:46] <adanoob> ok nouveau is not blacklisted at the blacklist.conf
[16:46] <adanoob> and Nvidia was not blacklisted
 I've uploaded the issue on ubuntu website. In technical support form
[16:47] <adanoob> ok, I'm gonna try this here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver
[16:48] <ResQue> i am looking at my xorg.0.log file and i noticed the this error: "screens found but no with usable configuration" i am stuck in tty1, with no GUI and could really do with some help on what to do next
[16:50] <PeterME> Hi, quick question. I have a constant HDMI link to the living room TV. I've created keyboard shortcuts to switch between my desktop screens and the TV. Problem is that whenever the TV is turned on Ubuntu will auto detect that a new screen is attached and add it to my screen. This has started to became an annoyance as I live with three other people whe tend to turn the TV on and  off quite often. Does anyone know how to turn off this
[16:50] <PeterME> feature?
[16:50] <ResQue> i was thinking maybe if i install the nvidia closed source drivers that might help, but i am unsure what package to install, i did a apt-cache search and found quite a few drivers and setting file, does anyone know what package i should install?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Peterme: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:52] <He4dShOt> hi! anyone know if I can get the name of a wired connection? something like ESSID in wireless?
[16:53] <gartral> He4dShOt: wired connections don't work like that, you can, however get the MAC Adress of the router
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> He4dshot: wired connections dont have names
[16:54] <PeterME> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[16:54] <ResQue> He4dShOt: you could get the mac address of your network card, and the mac address of the routers on the network
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Peterme: and what video chip?
[16:54] <He4dShOt> and what about the name I gave in network manager?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> ResQue. which graphics card ?
[16:55] <gartral> He4dShOt: that's local to your account on your machine
[16:55] <ResQue> He4dShOt: there is also the local dns server if you are running one, maybe on the router would give you a reverse look up name based on your ip address/subnet of your network
[16:55] <ResQue> BluesKaj: i have an nvidea 8600m GT
[16:56] <ResQue> BluesKaj: the m stands for mobile, this is a laptop
[16:56] <PeterME> [AMD/ATI] Cayman PRO [Radeon HD 6950]
[16:56] <He4dShOt> ResQue, like nslookup [name of the machine
[16:56] <BluesKaj> ResQue. don't have dual gpus I hope (Optimus) ?
[16:56] <PeterME> ActionParsnip: [AMD/ATI] Cayman PRO [Radeon HD 6950]
[16:57] <ResQue> He4dShOt: yes if you are running a windows network you may also get the netbios (sort of like a network name, but not really, its more a collection of machines), netbois was replaced with SMB i think, im not sure i would have to google it and i cant right now
[16:59] <ResQue> BluesKaj: i am not sure, i think the answer is no, i have never seen that mention anywhere in any settings or on the box, plus i think thats a name given to laptop with the intel and nvidea cards. this mother board does not have an onboard gpu
[17:00] <BluesKaj> ResQue. mother board does not have an onboard gpu , that's different, never heard of that
[17:02] <ResQue> BluesKaj: yes, there is an MMX socket though, and the nvidea card plugs in to there. im am 100% sure of that i was suppried at first as well
[17:02] <gartral> BluesKaj: I have, certain ASUS boardds lack one, and many m-ITX boards have a half-depth slot for a GPU..
[17:03] <ResQue> i am going to try and install nvidia-current and try and run startx again, i am guessing this issue is driver related but this is the first time i have boot a ubuntu dvd and it hasnt worked
[17:03] <Corsanico> buonasera, qualcuno mi può dare una mano?
[17:04] <LjL> !it | Corsanico
[17:05] <Corsanico> Thank you
[17:05] <Ziber> Does the order of interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces have any effect on the way they are created? Having a bit of interesting behavior with a bridge.
[17:05] <LjL> you're welcome
[17:07] <anders___> n1 who can help with some nvidia trouble=
[17:07] <anders___> ?
[17:07] <ResQue> ok so i just tried to install the nvidea drivers and i get this error message now in xorg.0.log "Failed to init the nvidia graphics GPU at pci 1:0:0 please check your kernel log" never seen this before any tips?
[17:08] <ResQue> anders___: i am not sure i can help, but try reading the /var/log/xorg.0.log
[17:08] <ResQue> anders___: you could also try adding the follow kernal params from inside grub: nomodeset 1915modeset=0
[17:09] <drchaos__> Здрасьте
[17:10] <PeterME> ActionParsnip: What do you think?
[17:10] <drchaos__> hello
[17:10] <folivora> Hello, I had Alps/TouchPad and it is failing, I can't click on icons, pointer works but with clicks it wont work
[17:10] <anders___> thx ResQue, but Im really new at this, so I'm not sure what your asking of me right now
[17:10] <anders___> I have a new install now, and I just installed the newest drivers using PPA, I'll try a reboot now
[17:10] <drchaos__> Hey guys, my xubuntu cant see my mobile phone, can someone help?
[17:10] <ResQue> anders___: google nomodeset nvidia and you should find a good tutorial, i am also very new.
[17:11] <folivora> I have tried different solutions, but still it is failing. With normal drivers it is regonized as PS/2 mouse
[17:12] <adanoob> There's a lot of this going on apparetly: https://www.google.com/search?q=nvidia%20ubuntu%2013.10%20blank%20screen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=np&source=hp
[17:12] <drchaos__> hey I'm a new guy help me please
[17:13] <subz3r0> !ask | drchaos__
[17:14] <smaudet> adanoob, can't view the link what is it?
[17:14] <anders__> seems the install using PPA worked :) dno how I can find out if it's installed though :)
[17:14] <smaudet> something to do with nvidia?
[17:14] <adanoob> tons of reports of blank screen with nvidia drivers after upgrade or update to 13.10 !
[17:14] <basil1x> drchaos__, You've set both xubuntu and your phone to search?
[17:14] <smaudet> Is it the bios bug?
[17:14] <adanoob> tons !! tons of lost hours !
[17:15] <smaudet> i.e. the one where you have to turn up your brightness?
[17:15] <smaudet> I wasted a day with 13.04 figuring that one out
[17:15] <smaudet> or is this different?
[17:16] <adanoob> totally different
, system see the cdrom drive with windows driver. Phone on androind and it setted on usb drive mode.
[17:16] <smaudet> Got a fairly serious bug myself, anyone know where I can go to get help with ecryptfs?
[17:17] <smaudet> I'd give you a bug link but none of my browsers work and ecryptfs is screwing my drive
[17:17] <basil1x> Driver?  what do you want to do with the phone?  Bluetooth connection, I assumed.
[17:17] <drchaos__> how to paste nick quick in XCHAT?
[17:17] <smaudet> Specifically there is a random data corruption going on
[17:18] <anders__> installed nvidia using ppa, got opengl not supported when opening steam....
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> !tab | drchaos__
, i want to replace music from he device to hdd
[17:18] <basil1x> You should be able to do that with just bluetooth, no?
[17:18] <basil1x> drchaos__, ^
[17:19] <basil1x> No need for a windows driver for that.
, theresno blutooth on my notebook
[17:19] <basil1x> Ah.
[17:19] <drchaos__> I USE USB
[17:19] <drchaos__> oh
[17:19] <drchaos__> sry
[17:20] <drchaos__> i still didnt understandow to paste nick in xchat
[17:20] <basil1x> drchaos__, can you pastebin 'lsusb' please?
[17:20] <smaudet> drchaos__, start typing your nick
[17:20] <smaudet> halfway through hit TAB
[17:21] <drchaos__> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[17:21] <drchaos__> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[17:21] <drchaos__> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[17:21] <drchaos__> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 09da:054f A4 Tech Co., Ltd
[17:21] <drchaos__> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0489:c00b Foxconn / Hon Hai
[17:21] <FloodBot1> drchaos__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <smaudet> so basiTAB -L basil1x
 tab dont wor
[17:21] <ANub_> drchaos__ !! you can select a nick , then ctrl+c, and then ctrl+v in the chat
[17:21] <drchaos__> k
[17:21] <smaudet> drchaos__, then there's something else wrong, I suggest you check preferences.
[17:22] <drchaos__> <ANub_, how to do it more quickly?
[17:22] <basil1x> Pastebin.org, drchaos__ Don't put all that in channel
[17:22] <ANub_> drchaos__ !! thats pretty quick for me :) ....
[17:23] <drchaos__> I start type nick, it displays the variants to chhose but when I click on them nothing happens
[17:24] <drchaos__> oh i press tab of course
[17:24] <basil1x> No click... that means you need to type more.
[17:24] <BluesKaj> drchaos__. use the tab key
[17:24] <drchaos__> basil1x,
[17:24] <drchaos__> Yeah it works thx
[17:24] <fixmypc956> how do I what directories I have and on what device
[17:25] <drchaos__> basil1x, so what can I do with my trouble?
[17:25] <basil1x> fixmypc956, What is it you need?  That was not very clear.
[17:25] <ANub_> fixmypc956, mount
[17:25] <ANub_> fixmypc956, df -h
[17:25] <drchaos__> basil1x, and what had I do when yo asked me to paste lsusb?
[17:25] <basil1x> drchaos__, you should see the phone as a drive in Nautilus.
[17:26] <fixmypc956> I have ubuntu on USB DRIVE and a 1 TB hard drive for storage
[17:26] <drchaos__> theres thunar
[17:26] <smaudet> guys what's the command to ignore a directory when using the find command?
[17:26] <smaudet> -ignore?
[17:26] <drchaos__> maybe try nautilus?
[17:26] <Foxhoundz> Guys I need help
[17:26] <basil1x> drchaos__, I need to see lsusb to tell if it can see your phone
[17:26] <Foxhoundz> I've completed destroyed the permissions for /var/www
[17:26] <Foxhoundz> and now my web page isn't displaying
[17:26] <fixmypc956> I somehow created /home on hard drive but never check that /home was in initial install of ubuntu
[17:27] <basil1x> Thunar should show it as well, drchaos__
[17:27] <PeterME> Trying again as ActionParsnip went silent. I have a constant HDMI link to the living room TV. I've created keyboard shortcuts to switch between my desktop screens and the TV. Problem is that whenever the TV is turned on Ubuntu will auto detect that a new screen is attached and add it to my screen. This has started to became an annoyance as I live with three other people whe tend to turn the TV on and  off quite often. Does anyone know how
[17:27] <PeterME> to turn off this feature? Running Ubunt 13.10 with a AMD/ATI Cayman PRO Radeon HD6950.
[17:27] <drchaos__> basil1x, what wave I do to let you see?
[17:27] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: make sure the web server process owner can read and execute files in the directory, and you'll be fine
[17:27] <Foxhoundz> ikonia: the server is apache, which I assume is part of the www-data group
[17:27] <Foxhoundz> So I don't understand why it's not able to execute files under it
[17:27] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: most likley yes
[17:27] <drchaos__> basil1x, you said dont paste it in chat
[17:28] <adanoob> damm! this video problem is taking me to pluck my hair out !! after removing all X and Nvidia, going to Noveau all was good only slow as molasses, processed to install the binary driver and now I only see the GUI mouse cursor... but the screen is sort of blacked out...
[17:28] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: follow the directory through from the top level to the file and make sure the user can read+execute the files/directories
[17:28] <basil1x> Paste your entire lsusb at pastebin and just post the link here.
[17:28] <basil1x> drchaos__, ^
[17:29] <Foxhoundz> And ls-l is returning a weird permission structure I've never seen before
[17:29] <adanoob> coisinha da prima !!
[17:29] <Foxhoundz> -rw-r-Sr--  1 dev www-data   10585 Oct  7 19:34 wp-settings.php
[17:29] <drchaos__> basil1x, have I do it by lines or something?
[17:29] <Foxhoundz> What the hell is S
[17:29] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: just change it to the correct permissions
[17:29] <ikonia> Foxhoundz: 751 should be enough
[17:29] <zykotick9> smaudet: see -prune in "man find"
[17:30] <drchaos__> basil1x, oh i understand sry
[17:30] <drchaos__> basil1x, sec
[17:31] <smaudet> zykotick9, are you sure about that? that looks like it prunes ALL directories, I just want to prune a SINGLE directory
[17:31] <Moeh> Hello, I have the following problem: I always get a DISK FULL error and df shows: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root   1265372 1228632         0 100% / However the disk size is 3gb. How can I fix this?
[17:31] <ikonia> Moeh: extend the volume
[17:31] <drchaos__> basil1x, http://pastebin.com/z5G1yYBp
[17:32] <smaudet> zykotick9, nvm I think I answered my question
[17:32] <zykotick9> smaudet: i haven't tried it or used it but " -prune True; if the file is a directory, do not descend into it." sounds perfect... best of luck.
[17:32] <basil1x> drchaos__, Ta.  Looking now.
[17:32] <Ziber> I have a network bridge setup, xenbr0 and p1p1 (which, for some reason, is the name of my physical interface). Oddly, both apepar to have IP addresses. If I remove the IP from p1p1 (since it seems to be a DHCP IP), will I lose connectivity?
[17:32] <smaudet> zykotick9, thanks!
[17:32] <Moeh> ikonia: I already did, didn't help
[17:32] <drchaos__> basil1x, i didnt heard about pastebin ever)
[17:32] <ikonia> Moeh: how did you extend it
[17:32] <Rarrikins> Is there a site that allows viewing the source code for packages?
[17:32] <Ziber> I've duplicated this scenario on a VM, but I only get one IP address, not both.
[17:32] <drchaos__> basil1x, nice resourse
[17:32] <Moeh> ikonia: It's a vm so I create a bigger vdi file, cloned the old
[17:32] <ikonia> Moeh: that's not what I said to do
[17:33] <Moeh> ikonia: I did that before already :)
[17:33] <basil1x> drchaos__, Is the phone powered on and plugged into the USB?
[17:33] <ikonia> Moeh: your logical volume is full - you need to extend the logical volume to use more disk and extend the file system once the volume is extended
[17:33] <ikonia> Moeh: ok so "how did you extend the volume"
[17:33] <cal-el> when pushing "open link" on internet adresses i terminal only firefox opens, but not the link. Any ideas?
[17:33] <drchaos__> basil1x, no, repeat with connected?
[17:33] <basil1x> Yup, drchaos__
[17:33] <drchaos__> basil1x, sry, yes it connected
[17:34] <drchaos__> basil1x, blind eyes
[17:34] <drchaos__> =)
[17:34] <basil1x> drchaos__, It appears to not see the phone at all then. :(
[17:35] <drchaos__> basil1x, but why does i see cdrom with driver?
[17:35] <drchaos__> it
[17:35] <drchaos__> basil1x, and ca you tell why it appears so?)
[17:36] <fixmypc956> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6469669/   thats after I run df -h
[17:36] <basil1x> drchaos__, You have a cdrom and a phone, yes?  Its' ability to see one has absolutely no bearing on its' ability to see the other.
[17:36] <fhf> Hi all. I'm running LibreOffice version 4.0.4 and I have problems with MediaWiki publishing. I do have libreoffice-wiki-publisher installed. When I try to add a server it fails saying "Cannot establish connection to MediaWiki". Mediawiki is installed in http://docs.local/ any ideas how to fix it?
[17:37] <drchaos__> basil1x, no.. windows see two drives and a cdrom when i connect my phone to usb
[17:37] <drchaos__> basil1x, and xubutu see only cdrom
[17:37] <basil1x> drchaos__, OK... I get it now.
[17:38] <drchaos__> basil1x, cdrom is flash drive, but sistem recognize it as cdrom
[17:38] <basil1x> Does the phone have a memory card?
[17:39] <basil1x> drchaos__, What make and model is this phone, pls?
[17:39] <drchaos__> basil1x, Sharp sh-530U
[17:39] <zykotick9> fhf: you might wand to try asking in the #libreoffice channel
[17:39] <fhf> zykotick9: I've tried without success.
[17:40] <basil1x> drchaos__, Looking that up to see if there's something special you have to do... give me a few minutes here.
[17:41] <drchaos__> basil1x, can you answer me by email please, i have to go now
[17:42] <drchaos__> basil1x, or I can find you here later when I come
[17:42] <drchaos__> ?
[17:42] <drchaos__> basil1x, can I?
[17:45] <adanoob> these video problems are making me do the unthinkable... I'm actually browsing the website from the "evil empire" checking for licence prices...
[17:45] <DJones> drchaos__: What version of Ubuntu are you using, from what I can see the phone you've got is Android 4.0, from memory, with 4.0, google changed the method of connection to MTP which wasn't accessible with versions of Ubuntu prior to 13.04
[17:46] <fixmypc956> is this how this is suppose to be? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6469714/
[17:47] <wilornel> Hey guys, my sound is not working after I come back of hibernation/sleep. I tried many solutions offered on the web and by Ubuntu itself, but none of them worked. Could someone go through the problem with me or should I check at a certain guide you have knowledge of?
[17:47] <fixmypc956> or how can I erase /home from 1TB hard drive partition
[17:47] <basil1x> drchaos__, Sorry, there's nothing I can do.  Someone else might be able to help.
[17:47] <drchaos__> basil1x, xubuntu 12.04 lts. android 4.2
[17:47] <DJones> drchaos__: If your using 12.10 or earlier of xubuntu, then its not that easy to connect, I used to install Airdroid on my Galaxy S3 which had ICS (android 4.0) installed and then connect via wifi rather than cable
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> fixmypc956: thats a pretty normal setup. why do you not want /home mounted on the other partition?
[17:48] <drchaos__> basil1x, is there latest versions of xubuntu?
[17:48] <xangua> drchaos__: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html this might be useful
[17:48] <basil1x> drchaos__, 13.10 is the latest xubuntu.
[17:49] <fixmypc956> I do want that /home on that partition
[17:49] <McBrisket> can ubuntu's 'startup disk s creator' use non-ubuntu .ISO files. such as fedora?
[17:49] <fixmypc956> but I never removed the one that gets  made with the initial install
[17:49] <wilornel> I had many problems with my Ubuntu installation on that new laptop which came with Windows 8(which implies UEFI). For example, my laptop could not find any wireless connections. Now, the standalone OS is booting in Legacy mode, which is why wireless works fine, but my sound system still does not work AFTER HIBERNATION/SLEEP
[17:50] <drchaos__> basil1x, link bad
[17:50] <zykotick9> McBrisket: no, only *buntu family.  unetbootin perhaps?
[17:50] <xangua> McBrisket: not that I am aware off, but you can use unetbootin
[17:50] <drchaos__> basil1x, no its good
[17:50] <drchaos__> basil1x, Im bad)
[17:50] <basil1x> http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[17:51] <McBrisket> zykotick9 , xangua thanks.
[17:51] <zykotick9> drchaos__: fyi, you ARE on the latest LTS version...
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> fixmypc956: you would have to boot a live distro to fix it. then move the contents from that partition to the folder of /home on sdb1 and remove the entry for /dev/sdb1 from fstab ( or move its mount point)
[17:51] <nashant> Hey, I'm trying to set up sftp for existing users so have added them to group sftpusers and added this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6469738/ to my sshd_config, but it broke my regular ssh. I assume it's something to do with the ChrootDirectory. How do I get both ssh and sftp working for existing users?
[17:51] <drchaos__> basil1x, so I need to get 13.10 to use my phone with xubuntu?
[17:51] <basil1x> Though installing normal ubuntu and then sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop is my preferred method.
[17:52] <drchaos__> basil1x, i got
[17:52] <xangua> drchaos__: or read the link I mentioned to you
[17:52] <basil1x> I would, drchaos__ It seems there's no easy way without upgrading to 13.04 at least.  And I'd go for the full 13.10.
[17:53] <drchaos__> xangua, thanks i ll try
[17:53] <drchaos__> basil1x, i prefer lts, i am not linuxoid)
[17:54] <drchaos__> basil1x, someday I got 9.04 and after updates I really stopped to love linux)
[17:54] <Guest88825> witam ! czy ktoś pisze po polsku ?
[17:54] <basil1x> pl! Guest88825
[17:54] <drchaos__> basil1x, and now I just want stable system to work
[17:55] <basil1x> Oops no polish support thingie
[17:55] <gassho> !pl Guest82305
[17:55] <peepsalot> is there a way to default totem to no subtitles when it loads?  everytime i try to change it in a movie it freezes
[17:55] <wilornel> Anyone's got experience with things such as UEFI or sound drivers/systems?
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> !pl | Guest82305
[17:55] <drchaos__> basil1x, tell me please, is my choise best? (xubuntu 12.04)?
[17:55] <gassho> :D
[17:55] <Guest88825> dzięki pozdrawiam
[17:55] <Guest82305> gassho, him
[17:56] <basil1x> drchaos__, that's up to you, however, your phone seems to want newer than that.
[17:56] <gassho> sorry
[17:56] <gassho> too eager for tehTab
[17:56] <drchaos__> basil1x, okay, ive got it. nthx and bye)
[17:57] <basil1x> Laters, drchaos__
[17:57] <wilornel> Hey guys, my sound is not working after I come back of hibernation/sleep. I tried many solutions offered on the web and by Ubuntu itself, but none of them worked. Could someone go through the problem with me or should I check at a certain guide you have knowledge of?
[17:58] <gassho> whats a megabit
[17:58] <basil1x> a reeley large bit?
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[18:00] <gassho> no
[18:00] <gassho> a kilobit is a large bit
[18:00] <smaudet> Can anyone think of a good reason why my disk transfers might be slow? Moving from partition to partition on the same disk, I'm getting total 3000 KB/s
[18:00] <smaudet> And occasional spurts of 18 MB/s
[18:00] <gassho> and a terabyte is a small bit
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: what type of disk?
[18:00] <smaudet> 7200 rpm SATA II Western Digital
[18:00] <fhf> smaudet: is it a new disk or an older one. Older drives often become slow?
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: could be due to a crappy seek time
[18:01] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: There is suspend to disk and suspend to ram. My problem occurs when the laptop screen is set flat on the keyboard, which suspend is it?
[18:01] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, hmm ok thanks
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: thats suspend to ram
[18:02] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: What would syspend to disk look like?
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: is it transferring small files?
[18:02] <wilornel> suspend*
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: hibernation
[18:02] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, yeah, I'm transferring a bunch of dev stuff out of an ecryptfs partition
[18:02] <laptop> How do i make LXDE the default desktop environment, after installing it?
[18:02] <smaudet> so mozilla firefox style source code
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: ahhhh even worse when encryption is involved
[18:03] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, well I'm thinking of removing the ecryptfs entirely
[18:03] <smaudet> its been crashing my desktop
[18:03] <laptop> How do i make LXDE the default desktop environment, after installing it?
[18:03] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, does LUKS suffer the same slow speeds?
[18:03] <smaudet> partition to partition
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: basically , if your writing a small files, it needs to seek to that position on the hdd, this can take anywhere from 1 - 20ms for a seek. then your write the file, but with encryption it has to write a full block, and depending on the block size, that can be quite a bit of extra writing. then it has to seek back to the source, read the next file, then seek back to the write location, etc...
[18:05] <laptop> How do i make LXDE the default desktop environment, after installing it?
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: the seek time is the big problem. with small files and hdds, it might be a good idea to to setup a ramdisk (i think tmpfs is a ramdisk)  and copy to the ramdisk and then copy form there back to the hdd on the new location
[18:07] <ubuntuaddicted> is there a easy seamless way to switch back and forth from the open source radeon and fglrx drivers?
[18:09] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: your ramdisk suggestion seems overly complicated... personally i'd throw rsync at it (and it takes, as long as it takes) ;)
[18:10] <laptop> How do i make LXDE the default desktop environment, after installing it?
[18:10] <zykotick9> laptop: probably from your login menu (lightdm)
[18:10] <Nono> Hi, how do i install Wikipedia on Ubuntu10.04 ?
[18:11] <laptop> zykotick9: Yes, but that will be *session only* thing
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: well, if rsync buffers large groups of small files before writhing then yeah it would work, but otherwise using a tmpfs can server as a decent buffer
[18:11] <laptop> I want to make it the default DE
[18:11] <zykotick9> laptop: ? i've never used lightdm (but there must be a way)
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> laptop do you want to set it globally or just for a user?
[18:13] <basil1x> If you start LXDE, it will be default until you start another DE.
[18:13] <BluesKaj> zykotick9. how do you login ?
[18:13] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: getty ;)
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> laptop if you want to set it globally try: sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s LXDE
[18:14] <BluesKaj> ahh , zykotick9 , just o be different or is there some advantage ?
[18:14] <ubuntuaddicted> there's a lot of open gl libraries to ensure get removed etc etc if you're running a 64bit OS but also run steam since it's 32bit. So removing the fglrx driver can be complex. I wish there was a script I could run that would remove all the fglrx stuff, install and activate the radeon driver (would need to logout and back in) so I can play Painkiller Hell and Damnation and then when im done playing that game, remove the radeon and reins
[18:14] <ubuntuaddicted> tal fglrx (logout and back in)
[18:15] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: i don't have a DE either, juse xorg+awesome ;)  it's a resource/personal preference situation
[18:15] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, not sure what I want a ramdisk for...unless you mean I should work in RAM? e.g. for small files?
[18:16] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, I might just switch to LUKS with a similar setup to what I have right now, its just this ecryptfs corruption is unacceptable, ubuntu devs haven't fixed it for over a year by the looks of it
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: it can act like a buffy, so you're not constantly seeking( you're wasting about 1 second per 50 files just on seek time alone)
[18:17] <smaudet> And I can't find any ecryptfs devs
[18:17] <smaudet> or help
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> s/buffy/buffer
[18:17] <mapreri> Hi! Does somebody remember what's the name of the package that reveal the change of the terminal resolution the change consequently the number of columns and rows accordingly?
[18:17] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, ok, but is that complicated to setup? And it won't help me with mass file transfer
[18:18] <smaudet> I understand the idea of a buffer but if its just another mounted fs I'm not sure how I can take advantage of it...
[18:18] <zykotick9> mapreri: are you using nomodeset currently?  nvidia/ati hardware?
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: try what zykotick9 suggested and use rsync. if it buffers then it will help
[18:18] <e2xistz> Is Ubuntu doing anything about the suspend dialog window appearing every time after resume?
[18:19] <Garmeer> To me, ubuntu is synonymous with unity, I don't understand how other *buntu distros are in any way similiar to the unity version
[18:19] <Garmeer> can someone explain this?
[18:19] <mapreri> zykotick9: I ssh on a lxc container inside a vps. Anyway my current desktop uses an nvidia card with mir....
[18:19] <zykotick9> smaudet: with rsync, it can even resume copying of what you've copied so far :)
[18:20] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, zykotick9 ok I'll look into it, but A) I'm dealing with the ecryptfs issue first, I'll fix rsync/ramdisks later
[18:20] <zykotick9> mapreri: none ;)
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: you're probably already using a tmpfs. /run is typically mounted as tmpfs.   some setups have /tmp mounted as tmpfs.
[18:20] <xangua> Garmeer: to me ubuntu is synonymus of use any desktop you want
[18:20] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, right, I think I am, but most files don't write to /run
[18:20] <Garmeer> xangua: but how are kubuntu and ubuntu similiar?
[18:21] <mapreri> zykotick9: ??
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: lol true, i'm just saying as an example
[18:21] <xangua> Garmeer: that they are ubuntu, do you have an ubuntu support question¿
[18:21] <smaudet> hitsujiTMO, zykotick9 will either of you be in tomorrow? I'll probably setup the new encryption/tmp directories tomorrow.
[18:21] <BluesKaj> Garmeer. they use the same ubuntu "core "
[18:21] <zykotick9> mapreri: if you're connecting via-ssh though, i don't think setting your console resolution will help either.  I have no idea what to suggest for that, sorry.  best of luck.
[18:21] <smaudet> s/in/in here/
[18:21] <Garmeer> BluesKaj: what do you mean by "core"?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> Garmeer. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[18:22] <smaudet> This move operation I'm not going to stop, which will take ~ 2-3 hours I suspect, and then I have to run my find operation on my encrypted directory X_X
[18:23] <smaudet> Unless you think I could just decrypt my home directory without worrying about corruption?
[18:23] <mapreri> zykotick9: AFAIK, it a problem of the remote system, that don't tell to the shell the change of resolution to let the shell change the columns and rows available.... But I don't remember what I have to install :| Thanks anyway :)
[18:23] <zzxc> How bad of an idea is it to have a install with out swap partition?
[18:23] <zzxc> For a server*
[18:24] <smaudet> zzxc, not a bad one? I would think you need more (real) memory in a server
[18:25] <smaudet> zzxc, unless you're not doing very much on your server, I don't think you generally want to be swapping all the time
[18:25] <smaudet> zzxc, swap is just a cache
[18:26] <smaudet> zzxc, the less caching you need to do, the better :)
[18:26] <zzxc> smaudet: Yeah I know. Well the server will probably be pretty inactive. So for power consuption it may be better to have a swap parition.
[18:26] <smaudet> zzxc, unused memory still uses power
[18:27] <zzxc> smaudet: True.
[18:27] <smaudet> zzxc, but on the other hand if you aren't doing much on your server if you have lots of swap then you can get away with having less physical memory
[18:27] <smaudet> Which will save power
[18:28] <zzxc> smaudet: Yeah thats my thought
[18:28] <smaudet> just don't do something silly like have 16 GB of memory and a 32 GB swap
[18:28] <smaudet> More like 2-4 GB memory and 8 GB of swap
[18:28] <zzxc> smaudet: Yeah I think this machine only has 4gb of ram.  Well I have a few tb drives in there with some extra space on this I can alway just do a swapon command to make matters a little easier
[18:30] <smaudet> zzxc, otherwise your server will easily go down
[18:30] <cullen92> hi
[18:31] <zzxc> smaudet: Its a home server for my use only. I was going to run a airplay server client, rtorrent, sftp and a personal github server on it. So its not like it's really going to be taxed.
[18:34] <zzxc> It crashed a while back when doing a 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrade. I've been meaning to put an ssd in it so I'm installing server on a usb drive so as a temp thing.
[18:38] <smaudet> zzxc, they have github servers?
[18:38] <smaudet> zzxc, or did you just mean a git server?
[18:38] <zzxc> smaudet: Yeah thats what I meant
[18:38] <zzxc> Sorry
[18:39] <smaudet> zzxc, no problem, I just wondered if github had gone open source :)
[18:40] <smaudet> largest proprietary host of open source software there is...
[18:40] <smaudet> is launchpad FOSS?
[18:41] <smaudet> I forget.
[18:42] <CygnusX1> Installed gvim-gnome...not showing in the Unity app launcher...how to get it in there?
[18:42] <trism> smaudet: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting
[18:43]  * smaudet waits for browser to open link
[18:44] <kkkkkkk> hi all, is there any way in libre office to start from where i left off like feature
[18:44] <kkkkkkk> just in Office in windows
[18:44] <smaudet> kkkkkkk, #libreoffice
[18:45] <kkkkkkk> smaudet: thanks
[18:48] <smaudet> trism, finally got it to open, thanks. So that's a 'yes'.
[18:48] <smaudet> 'bzr branch lp:launchpad'
[18:49] <smaudet> 'git clone git:github' doesn't work :(
[18:49] <smaudet> guess that should be'git clone github:github'
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: git clone git@github.com:user/project.git
[18:55] <smaudet>  hitsujiTMO that's not github's source code though is it?
[18:55] <homerjr> ubuntu 13.10 and empathy 3.8.4, i am not able to add a google talk account. I have been able to add other accounts without issue, any ideas?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> !info empathy
[18:55] <smaudet> ok yeah damn screw ecryptfs
[18:56] <smaudet> backup to an external drive I get 20MB/s constant
[18:56] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, I was just wondering if there's a simple way to back up video drivers/
[18:56] <smaudet> And that's WHILE I'm already reading/writing from the same disk
[18:56] <hitsujiTMO> smaudet: ahh sorry. not sure of githubs src is available or in what package
[18:56] <DreamPCs> I wanted to enable the additional drivers on my system but I want to back up the drivers before hand in case it screws up.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/105730/google-talk-account-not-working-with-empathy
[18:56] <bekks> DreamPCs: Then you would have to take a full backup of your system.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Homerjr: bit better http://helpforlinux.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/there-is-no-official-google-talk.html
[18:57] <DreamPCs> Would I seriously have to perform a full backup in order to just preserver video drivers?
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> DreamPCs: you can always remove the driver if it doesnt work
[18:58] <homerjr> thanks ActionParsnip
[18:59] <DreamPCs> Ok, so I can revert back to the noveau drivers if I needed to?
[18:59] <DreamPCs> I just don't want to hose the entire system.
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Homerjr: not seen those links?
[18:59] <PeterME> Hi ActionParsnip, you quit before I got to respond and no one else seem able to help. The video chip I'm using is: [AMD/ATI] Cayman PRO [Radeon HD 6950] (guy who wanted to turn of autodetect for external monitor here)
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> DreamPCs: then remove the driver packages installed. Thats all they are
[19:00] <DreamPCs> Ok cool, thank you!
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Peterme: is there a seting in the Tv?
[19:00] <homerjr> i have, it is odd even after removing the account from Online Accounts or Messaging and VOIP, close the window and reopen it and the accounts are still there and in multiple
[19:00] <PeterME> Could be, haven't checked. However someone else might want that feature on for the TV..
[19:01] <PeterME> ActionParsnip ^
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Peterme: i believe its just the tv reacting to the input as it is told.
[19:04] <PeterME> ActionParsnip: well, the TV is sending the signal. When it's turned on it sends the discover signal. My computer detects the TV and then changes it's screen config. The question is, how do I counteract this..
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Peterme: no idea but there may be a feature in the tv to ignore it. People will then need to switch the input manually (not much effort)
[19:06] <DaleK5WHR> Is there a reason why chrome is not remembering being set as default browser? Using xfce desktop.
[19:06] <PeterME> ActionParsnip: Not much effort for someone who knows how. For my technology challenged friends it will be..
[19:07] <adanoob> ok, now I've dug deeper into pile of S**T and even the login screen is borked! how can I go into command line with apt-get access so I can reset the while X environment ? TIA
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Dalek5whr: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:07] <PeterME> ActionParsnip: It's even set to off in the xrandr config..
[19:08] <adanoob> while= whole
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Peterme: may be something you can use xorg.conf to stop
[19:08] <DaleK5WHR> ActionParsnip: Linux Lite 1.0.6 LTS
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Dalek5whr: that isnt supported here
[19:09] <PeterME> That's what I thought as well, but I don't know how to config it right. The extra screen is not even there..
[19:09] <DaleK5WHR> ActionParsnip: I know but their support channel is always dead and it's derived from ubuntu
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Dalek5WHR: ask in #linuxlite
[19:09] <gassho> droooooooooooid
[19:09] <DaleK5WHR> ActionParsnip: ok, I'll try again there, thanks
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Dalek5WHR: none of the 'ubuntu based' distros are supported here, sorry
[19:09] <DaleK5WHR> ActionParsnip: no prob
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Peterme: its going to be a lot of effort and trial and error
[19:10] <adanoob> forget it , think I got it
[19:11] <PeterME> ActionParsnip: Fun times ahead in other words..
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Peterme: exactly
[19:12] <agmenor> hello/hallo!
[19:13] <folsto> Hi, how do I enabled natural scrolling on Mouse? Checkmarking "Natural Scrolling" in Settings > Mouse * touch pad > Touchpad enabled it only on touchpad