[00:00] <lipvig> :/
[00:00] <pfifo> lipvig: orr customize an install cd for this purpose
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> lipvig: you're looking for an unattended install
[00:00] <OlDirtyBastard> hi
[00:00] <legrandin> hi
[00:01] <dustinspringman> alright.... i'm at the end of my rope on this one..... so I have an optimus system, (yes, I know).... on 12.04 LTS, dual monitors worked well..... I updated to 12.04.3 and now my display port will not send video to the same monitor, using the same cable, on teh same display port that it was on 12.04....... i've googled for about 6hrs now... i've tried everything i can possibly think of... does anyone have any experience wit
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> lipvig: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[00:01] <OlDirtyBastard> I can't play AoE2 with wine because of the top title bar
[00:01] <lipvig> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll look into that
[00:01] <OlDirtyBastard> xD
[00:02] <legrandin> well im on 13.10 dustin and my monitors work fine
[00:02] <legrandin> so i probably cant help :D
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> legrandin: are your configs catered for apache 2.2 and not 2.4?
[00:03] <legrandin> i just fixed it! thanks hitsuji
[00:03] <legrandin> also i tried that but i donbt have old configs cause i juast have 13.10, not upgraded
[00:03] <Beldar> dustinspringman, If you have been doing regular updates 12.04.3 would be what you have been running except for the kernel stack.
[00:03] <legrandin> for some reason there were permissions on the index file preventing me from opening it
[00:03] <dustinspringman> Beldar: I am pretty sure it was the kernel stack that broke this...
[00:04] <Beldar> dustinspringman, Is that what you upgraded, you would of had to do that yourself?
[00:04] <dustinspringman> Beldar: the 3.8 kernel popped up as a needed update... so I did it...
[00:04] <pfifo> dustinspringman: does it work when you boot with the old kernel?
[00:04] <dustinspringman> Beldar: as soon as I did, bam.. no mas..
[00:05] <Beldar> dustinspringman, How long ago did you install this, and do you know what 12.04 it was, and have you tried any of the other kernels in the grub menu?
[00:05] <pfifo> dustinspringman: are you using propertiery drivers?
[00:06] <dustinspringman> pfifo: i've already destroyed that instance... i thought "oh, forums say it was fixed in 12.10"...so i updated.... then I updated to 13.04 because 12.10 didnt fix it... then i updaetd to 13.10 as a hail mary...... after all that I reinstalled 12.04 LTS (where I am now) and apparently during install it took me back up to 12.04.3 where I stand now..
[00:06] <dustinspringman> nope, only using the Intel VESA drivers
[00:06] <pfifo> ok, fresh install then
[00:06] <dustinspringman> yes,
[00:07] <dustinspringman> in regular 12.04, the Intel Graphics were reported as such.. now in 12.04.3 they say "intel sandybridge mobile"...
[00:07] <dustinspringman> the "problem" I have surmised is this: xrandr -q and even in "displays" I see my VIZ 26"... but I get "no signal"...
[00:08] <dustinspringman> The EDID is detecting properly... xrandr sees that the HDMI1 is connected... just sits with "no signal" all the time...
[00:08] <pfifo> dustinspringman: there is a library for detecting display capabilities
[00:09] <pfifo> dustinspringman: and seems you have it working properly
[00:09] <dustinspringman> pfifo: right, and I've looked that up.. in 12.04 it was working at 1920x1080_60.00...
[00:09] <cpt_cupcake> I have connected my Mac OS mail client with my Ubuntu Mail server using postfix, and I can receive mails, but can not send any from that client. I have installed roundcube on the server and can send mails from there though. Does anyone know why? :-/
[00:09] <dustinspringman> since i've gained kernel 3.8 this problem existed.. before that, I think I was on 3.6 and it worked well.. no special requirements.. =/
[00:10] <ikonia> cpt_cupcake: I suspect you don't have relaying setup correctly
[00:10] <dustinspringman> I thought maybe it was a problem with the virtual display or screen layout or something... but i've tried HUNDREDS of forum fixes to no avail.... still...no signal.. =(
[00:10] <cpt_cupcake> ikonia: And how do I do that?
[00:11] <ikonia> cpt_cupcake: it's your mail server, you need to setup relaying for the correct incoming/outgoing connections
[00:11] <Chanito> Hey guys! What is the best video editing software in your opinion? Can be commercial or open-source. Thanks!
[00:12] <coleman> ha, looks like I mad it this time
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> dustinspringman: have you tried installing 3.2/3.5 too see if the issue is fixed with the downgrade?
[00:12] <coleman> ha, looks like I made it this time
[00:12] <legrandin> does anyone know if there is a way to open my text editor (subl) to a specific file?
[00:12] <legrandin> Sublime Text
[00:12] <legrandin> i mean, to a specific folder, in the command line
[00:13] <kingbeowolf> anyone used "Wireless Hotspot" before?  It gives a security type as WEP.  Can I change it to WPA?
[00:13] <legrandin> like can i do something like "subl (folder)" or something in the command line and have it open that folder>
[00:13] <coleman> WPA doesn't always work
[00:13] <LjL> but WEP is always (very) unsafe
[00:14] <kingbeowolf> yeah
[00:14] <pfifo> legrandin: if the man page for it dosent offer anything, you can try the old fashioned `PWD=/path/to/files subl` replacing subl with whatever the command is
[00:14] <kingbeowolf> WEP can be cracked in 5 seconds
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> legrandin: subl /path/to/folder
[00:14] <legrandin> oh snap, thanks guys
[00:14] <legrandin> LINUX IS FIN COOL
[00:15] <kingbeowolf> indeed
[00:15] <Chanito> Hey guys! What is the best video editing software in your opinion? Can be commercial or open-source. Thanks!
[00:16] <pfifo> !best | Chanito
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> !best | Chanito
[00:16] <Chanito> Hey guys! What is MOST FEATURE PACKED video editing software in your opinion? Can be commercial or open-source. Thanks!
[00:16] <Sh1G3rU> !worst
[00:17] <coleman> lol
[00:17] <dustinspringman> hitsujiTMO: I'm not familiar with the kernel downgrade process, but i guess I will look it up and try... i've tried so much else already, might as well give it a shot..
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> !poll | Chanito
[00:17] <pfifo> Sh1G3rU: anything todo with windows
[00:17] <Chanito> Hey guys! What is MOST FEATURE PACKED video editing software available on Ubuntu? Can be commercial or open-source. Thanks!
[00:17] <Sh1G3rU> pfifo, amen
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> dustinspringman: you should be able to install it just by going: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.5.######-generic
[00:18] <coleman> try lightworks i guess Chanito
[00:18] <dustinspringman> hitsujiTMO: thanks man, going to give that a show now
[00:19] <Chanito> coleman: Thank you! And thanks for not being a douche :)
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> dustinspringman: grub will still default to 3.08 so you'll need to manually pick the older kernel in the grub menu
[00:19] <dustinspringman> hitsujiTMO: roger that
[00:20] <robierob> guys i am using the radeon standard driver in ubuntu 13.04 can i play team fortress with this?
[00:21] <pfifo> robierob: well, technically yes. you might not get the performance you want
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> robierob: not very well if i understand correctly. there's huge improvements by going to kernel 3.12
[00:21] <robierob> i tried a few installs of other stuff could you answer some questions then?
[00:22] <robierob> kernal 3.12
[00:22] <robierob> ?
[00:22] <robierob> sudo apt-get kernal 3.12  ???
[00:22] <jemark> i have kernel 3.12.1
[00:22] <robierob> this has been a pain for a few days now
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> robierob: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[00:23] <robierob> i havent been able to use any grafix intensive anything and i just got ride of the ati drivers with catalist
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> robierob: its generally recommended to stick with radeon driver as it has far better 2d acceleration.
[00:24] <robierob> ok....and i am looking at that link and i dont understand how to install the better kernal for performanc
[00:25] <robierob> ok radeo driver better
[00:26] <robierob> for instance i am on a amd 64 machine
[00:26] <robierob> turion x2 64
[00:27] <ikonia> robierob: you don't need a "better" kernel
[00:27] <robierob> for performance
[00:27] <robierob> ?
[00:27] <ikonia> yes
[00:27] <robierob> hmmmm why the sudjestion
[00:28] <robierob> if its faster then why not...
[00:28] <ikonia> the kernel isn't "faster"
[00:28] <robierob> every bit counts i am not alot of ram and the pc old ish
[00:28] <robierob> i C
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: robierob the radeon driver in the 3.12 kernel does bring some performance improvements
[00:29] <robierob> ok here is the issue......my card is no long supported and now i cant get cool drivers to use 3d stuff on this system....
[00:29] <robierob> so... what to do
[00:29] <Sh1G3rU> robierob, what card is it?
[00:30] <unknown1> Hi guys i am new to ubuntu
[00:30] <Sh1G3rU> unknown1, welcome to ubuntu
[00:30] <unknown1> thanks
[00:30] <robierob> i got the opengl error and needed to update.... i tried failed misserably and now i clean all the junk out i installed and now i am back at the original Radeon driver with 13.04 ubuntu/xubuntu
[00:30] <vadi> Does anyone know by chance of eVGA nVidia SuperClocked cards run fine under Ubuntu with the SC'd speeds?
[00:31] <robierob> rs690m.....radeon xpress  1200 series
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> robierob: ahh, if its a legacy card then you might not get much in performance gain then.
[00:32] <robierob> hatsujitmo:   ubutnu what version?
[00:32] <robierob> ok
[00:32] <robierob> yes lagacy
[00:32] <Sh1G3rU> robierob, have you tried to download from ati the latest drivers?
[00:32] <Sh1G3rU> amd*
[00:32] <robierob> i didnt know why i was having so many issues latley and my screen getting all funky with me....now i am back to sqaure one
[00:33] <robierob> latest drivers dont support my card
[00:33] <pfifo> get the drivers that support your card?
[00:33] <Sh1G3rU> latest drivers for your card, each card have its own drivers
[00:33] <Sh1G3rU> some are packed in one single file
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> ati legacy lost support after kernel 3.2 iirc
[00:34] <robierob> its a legacy card now.....radeon xpress rs690m   1200 series..
[00:34] <robierob> i understand so what do i do know?
[00:34] <robierob> no team fortress?
[00:34] <pfifo> i throw away better cards than that
[00:34] <robierob> lol
[00:35] <mikeshollen> Good evening folks. I'm a linux newb currently running a few servers (teamspeak, murmur, vmc, etc) on an old win7 netbook. Recently I have exceeded the capabilities of that system so I have resolved to get some updated hardware and run a linux server for these services. The system I purchased has a 2.13GHz dual core, 4GB DDR3, and an SSD. I have a couple questions before I get started. Is 12.04 LTS server 64 the way to go
[00:35] <mikeshollen> for the OS? Is it that big a deal to run a GUI? Does that version of Linux support TRIM?
[00:36] <robierob> ok so....... what do i do guys?  i am at an impass and i dont want to fry my system.... only putter i got
[00:37] <vadi> mikeshollen: TRIM is supported, you can enable it in recent versions of Ubuntu (I'm not certain if it's enabled by default or not). Let me find you a link.
[00:37] <pfifo> robierob: get an old kernel that supports the old driver and use them for gaming, you can setup grub to boot with that kernel/driver combo when you need it
[00:37] <robierob> ok ........how?
[00:38] <mikeshollen> Thanks vadi
[00:38] <robierob> examples?
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: do you need a gui for the server?
[00:39] <mikeshollen> I don't know. I have never really utilized a command line only environment.
[00:39] <robierob> what driver do i need and the companion kernal?
[00:39] <mikeshollen> I believe I do because I don't think you can configure teamspeak server without one.
[00:39] <pfifo> robierob: you should be able to find the .deb package for linux-image-generic 3.2 in the archives, older versions are available too if you need them, once you got the one you want, boot that kernel and install the drivers you need
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: you can manually run trim with: fstrim /                           its generalley recommended to not have it running constantly but to run it as a daily cron
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: not run automatically i should say
[00:40] <mikeshollen> Thanks hitsujiTMO. What is a cron?
[00:40] <robierob> pfifo: i understand what you are saying but i am at a lose as in what i acualy need to do to acomplish that?
[00:40] <vadi> mikeshollen: The 'Automatic TRIM' part of http://askubuntu.com/a/19480/4918 seems to be simple enough to follow. I was mostly fishing about for good instructions - a lot of people write stuff that is overly complicated for beginners to follow.
[00:41] <vadi> cron is something that executes jobs for you on a period basis. A scheduler.
[00:41] <racho> robierob, what are you trying to do?
[00:41] <robierob> team fortress is the goal
[00:41] <pfifo> robierob: first get your kernel from the archives and get it booting, thats step 1
[00:41] <racho> i assume you have some problems with the video drivers?
[00:42] <robierob> i got an old radeon card....rs690m   radeon xpress 1200 series card... driver no longer supports it... no lagacy
[00:42] <mikeshollen> So do you think that system will run very well on that hardware?
[00:42] <racho> robierob, how does it run with the open source one?
[00:43] <vadi> mikeshollen: 12.04 LTS server is a good way to go.
[00:43] <robierob> i runs fine normally... but i cant run TF2....i get the open GL error need updating
[00:43] <jgirard> Hello! Having an issue with my cron job, can't get it to STOP logging to syslog. Tried everything I've been able to find online
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: teamspeak server does install as a cli app.    running the server would certainly be a good way of getting you used to cli :P
[00:43] <mikeshollen> When I downloaded the file, it is named ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso    Is this for intel architecture?
[00:43] <vadi> mikeshollen: yes, it will work for intel.
[00:44] <mikeshollen> Also, is it worth running the 64 bit version, or will that complicate anything over the 32 bit?
[00:44] <vadi> 'amd64' is just a historical name for 64bit. AMD came out with it first I guess. Intel supports it.
[00:44] <vadi> Go with 64bit.
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: yes, the name amd64 only refers to the fact that amd own the architecture
[00:44] <racho> robierob, fglrx dropped support for x1200 some time ago
[00:44] <robierob> yeah.... i got it
[00:44] <robierob> i mean i found that out throught this whole week long proces
[00:45] <racho> robierob, you can download an old kernel that works with the old drivers from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D
[00:45] <robierob> so what do i do now?
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: you'll get increased performance on 64bit
[00:45] <pfifo> the first 64bit archetichure was the r4200
[00:45] <vadi> racho: can't he use the radeon driver?
[00:45] <robierob> ok so what do i do with it... sudo install?
[00:45] <robierob> my experience thus far is a few terminal comands and 34 distros installed
[00:45] <racho> vadi, i think he may but he'll need 3.13 and maybe newer mesa
[00:46] <robierob> 3-4
[00:46] <mikeshollen> I read that some people were having problems running 64 bit windows 7 on my computer because they were complaining that intel did not have proper drivers for it. Will I run into the same issue with ubuntu server? http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=NanoPC&U=en-us0000005
[00:46] <mikeshollen> That is a link to my computer
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: thats reffering to the atom processors i'm guessing. theres no 64 bit drivers for them
[00:46] <pfifo> well if its foxconn, their probably right
[00:46] <deedee> as far as i know, amd dropped support for HD4xxx cards and below since 12.04 - and my HD4870 was new in 2011
[00:46] <bekks> mikeshollen: you will be fine with 64bit.
[00:47] <robierob> racho: what do i do with said kernal?
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: for the atom gpu that is
[00:47] <mikeshollen> Am I getting conflicting advice from hitsujiTMO and bekks or am I misunderstanding something?
[00:47] <racho> robierob, nothing too different. you download the linux-headers linux-image and linux-image-extra .deb packages (according to your arch, 32bit or 64bit)
[00:48] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: of course the atom is supported with 64bit.
[00:48] <racho> robierob, in a directory of your choice. then inside the directory you issue a sudo dpkg -i *.deb and installs the kernel
[00:48] <racho> robierob, you can easily remove it with apt-get remove at any time later
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: no, i still saying go ahead with 64bit. not saying not to
[00:49] <mikeshollen> Ok, thanks for clarifying.
[00:49] <robierob> ok...cool acualy directions...
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> bekks: i'm reffering to the win7 issue he was talking about
[00:49] <racho> robierob, but a word of warning. fglrx requires a specific version of X11 too, and that may prove problematic
[00:49] <robierob> now again whats the benifit.... here system performance? and the abilitie to run fortress?
[00:50] <mikeshollen> Is there a preferred VNC server to install into the 12.04.3 LTS server distro, or does it come with one built in?
[00:50] <robierob> k....
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: is it the d2700 btw?
[00:50] <bekks> mikeshollen: neither nor, just run apt-cache search vnc and install the server of your choice. Or use freenx/nxclient-
[00:50] <mikeshollen> I believe so
[00:51] <pfifo> robierob: truly, if your into gaming, you should stick to windows. this would be simple stuff to setup in windows
[00:51] <racho> robierob, i would go the opposite direction. i would install one of the newer kernels (like 3.13) and then use the ubuntu ppa for the latest mesa & drivers
[00:51] <racho> robierob, the open source driver actually supports older ati cards better than amd official one
[00:52] <mikeshollen> http://ark.intel.com/products/59683/
[00:52] <mikeshollen> Do you have any concerns with that processor?
[00:52] <robierob> ok.....
[00:52] <bekks> mikeshollen: No.
[00:52] <robierob> so what to do?
[00:52] <bobpit> I can't get my webcam to work in ubuntu 12.04
[00:52] <mikeshollen> I am currently running a 1.6GHz single core ATOM.
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: nope, its a decent low power processor
[00:52] <robierob> i though i had the open source driver installed?
[00:52] <bobpit> lsusb  gives  ID 1b17:6111
[00:52] <ikonia> mikeshollen: linux will support any x86 or x86_64 processor fine - you don't need to check every bit of hardware with the channel
[00:52] <mikeshollen> And mumble has some really innovative methods for dealing with packet loss and audio fidelity
[00:52] <ikonia> mikeshollen: you've bought it, so you may as well try it
[00:53] <robierob> the regular radeon driver with ubuntu 13.04
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: running the 330?
[00:53] <mikeshollen> but I think it's too much for the atom
[00:53] <bobpit> any chance I can get it to work?
[00:53] <mikeshollen> What do you mean by 330?
[00:53] <racho> robierob, you do. it comes as a default. however the latest mesa stuff adds some opengl goodness. also consider that x1200 is a pretty old card
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> the 1.6ghz processor you're on
[00:54] <mikeshollen> Let me check
[00:54] <legrandin> yeah wasnt linux build with the x86 in mind?
[00:54] <robierob> racho so what do i do from here...
[00:54] <robierob> latest mesa
[00:54] <robierob> ?
[00:54] <mikeshollen> It is an N270
[00:54] <racho> robierob, i would go with latest mesa and a more current kernel
[00:54] <Sh1G3rU> it is good to go
[00:55] <bobpit> hey, anyone can help me find driver for my webcam?
[00:55] <robierob> ok.....now we are going some where... what and how
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: you'll get about 4-6 times the performance increase on the newer processor
[00:55] <bobpit> lsusb  gives  ID 1b17:6111
[00:55] <robierob> racho: where and how?
[00:55] <robierob> upgrade distros?
[00:55] <racho> robierob, i run a HD5500 and i am currently on 3.13 + plus latest mesa
[00:55] <mikeshollen> Plus more by dropping windows 7 for ubuntu I assume?
[00:55] <robierob> ok
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: well i'm just going by the processor difference.
[00:56] <robierob> so just grab the kernal? sudo it into my system? what about the mesa stuff?
[00:56] <racho> robierob, https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[00:57] <racho> robierob, you know how to add a ppa?
[00:57] <robierob> ummm kinda did it once
[00:58] <robierob> if you were to give me 5 steps or what ever can you list them? and let me see about doing this
[00:58] <racho> robierob, there are instructions at the bottom of the page
[00:58] <robierob> ok
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> robierob: the 3.12 kernel should be enough of an upgrade for you. the 3.13 is still only beta and only feature power management for the newer gpus so you get no real benefit out of going for 3.13
[00:58] <robierob> ok
[00:58] <robierob>  3.12 it is
[00:59] <racho> yeah go with it
[00:59] <robierob> steps?
[00:59] <racho> robierob, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[00:59] <robierob> that site was no helps
[00:59] <robierob> completly unfamiliar
[01:00] <racho> robierob, ok fast steps
[01:00] <racho> go here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/
[01:00] <robierob> k
[01:00] <racho> robierob, do you run a 32bit or 64bit?
[01:00] <robierob> 64
[01:00] <robierob> amd
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: defo try and stick with cli tho. adding a gui is an unnecessary extra
[01:01] <mikeshollen> I don't know if I can manage the teamspeak server w/out a gui
[01:01] <_dale> running xfce, seeing problems with fonts sometimes having chopped characters, is there an easy fix?
[01:02] <racho> robierob, ok then you need the two amd64 .deb files plus the 3rd file xxx.all.deb
[01:02] <robierob> ok
[01:02] <racho> robierob, make a new directory and download them there
[01:02] <bekks> mikeshollen: You dont need a gui when just using vnc or freenx/nxclient (which I would prefer).
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: teamspeak server on linux is cli only afaik
[01:02] <jrib> mikeshollen: why? At least with mumble, you just connect with your client and use the admin account to create rooms and permissions, etc.
[01:03] <robierob> racho: done that
[01:03] <mikeshollen> Will I get an option when installing to chose CLI or GUI?
[01:04] <racho> robierob, open a terminal and cd into that directory
[01:04] <bekks> mikeshollen: No. The server is CLI only by default, but you can install a GUI if you like to.
[01:04] <robierob> racho: let me go eat... will you be here in 2 hours
[01:04] <robierob> we'll get this done
[01:05] <mikeshollen> So with CLI I basically live in terminal?
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: ubuntu server installs as cli. you can install a gui on top of that
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: yes
[01:05] <mikeshollen> Sounds scary. Let's do it!
[01:06] <mikeshollen> Thank you all so much for your help guys.
[01:06] <Sh1G3rU> mikeshollen,  it is much easy to do it than to tell you how to do it
[01:08] <Freeaqingme> Hi. I've got a DTAP setup (development, testing, acceptance and production). I want to run all my updates on development first, and once I've tested and verified these updates, roll out the exact same versions to acceptance and production as well. How could I accomplish such a thing?
[01:10] <Guest66881> Hi, whats the best dvdrip program to use for ubuntu 12.04LTS? thanks
[01:11] <jrib> Freeaqingme: are you just talking about package updates from ubuntu's repositories?
[01:11] <jrib> !dvdrip | Guest66881
[01:12] <jrib> !dvd | Guest66881
[01:12] <Freeaqingme> jrib, just packages, but also some other repos (which I;ve no  problem with mirroring locally)
[01:12] <Guest66881> Thanks jrib :)
[01:12] <jrib> Guest66881: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/RippingDVDs here is what I wanted to send
[01:12] <_dale> running xfce, seeing problems with fonts sometimes having chopped characters, is there an easy fix?
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> _dale: can you please post a screen shot of the issue
[01:13] <jrib> Freeaqingme: yeah, I would probably just have a local mirror of the repos and control when that updates.  Would that work for you?
[01:14] <Freeaqingme> I'm thinking I could make a mirror, update it once per week. have dev and test use that mirror. And once tested and vetted rsync it to acceptance yeah
[01:14] <jrib> Freeaqingme: well, you want to make sure that the mirror doesn't get updated while you're still in dev and test
[01:14] <Freeaqingme> I was also looking at spacewalk, but debian support seems still new, and it would surely introduce some more complexity. But I'm not sure if it would also introduce some benefits
[01:15] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: I have a screen shot available, where would I post it?
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> !screenshot | _dale
[01:15] <blackzombie> ayuda con bugtraq
[01:16] <jrib> Freeaqingme: I was envisioning something like: 1. sync mirror with the world  2. mirror is now frozen  3. update dev and test (using local mirror)  4.  if all looks well update acceptance and production using local mirror  5.  go to 1
[01:16] <Freeaqingme> jrib, that's what I meant yes. Thanks ;)
[01:17] <_dale> hitsujiTMO:  http://imagebin.org/278615
[01:18] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: sometimes the t's and l's are extremely bad but aren't showing that this time
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> _dale: is it specific apps?
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> _dale: or every app?
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> _dale: or even just a specific family of apps?
[01:19] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: from what I've seen, it happens in a terminal windows and at times with chrome
[01:20] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: I'm using linux lite but their support channel is sleeping today
[01:21] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: as you can see in the screen shot, the X character in the window title is chopped, it should read LXTerminal
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> _dale: do you have a font config file in ~/fontconfig/fonts.conf or ~/.fonts.conf
[01:23] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: I'll check... brb
[01:24] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: I have a .fontconfig folder with cache files
[01:24] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: the file names look like MD5 hash
[01:25] <pfifo> my ubuntu 13.10 wants to perform a filesystem check almost every time I restart
[01:25] <bekks> pfifo: then you are shutting it down unclean almost every time.
[01:25] <deezed> pfifo: how do you shut it down?
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO> _dale: are the contents of the files xml?
[01:26] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: will open one to see if xml or binary...
[01:27] <pfifo> deezed, sometimes i use the gui, clicking the power icon and selecting the shutdown option. sometimes i type sudo init 6
[01:28] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: they are binary files
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> _dale: then i'm immediately out of ideas.
[01:29] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: 7ef2298fde41cc6eeb7af42e48b7d293-le32d4.cache-3 is one of the filenames
[01:30] <_dale> hitsujiTMO: ok, thanks anyway... will keep searching google... thanks
[01:30] <deezed> pfifo: did you try 'sudo shutdown -h now'?
[01:31] <bekks> deezed: on linux, shutdown -h now just calls init 0.
[01:31] <pfifo> deezed: no, i dont use that
[01:31] <racho> _dale,
[01:31] <_dale> racho: yes
[01:31] <racho> _dale, do you have freetype libraries installed?
[01:32] <racho> _dale, or anti aliasing disabled?
[01:32] <deezed> bekks: uhm
[01:32] <_dale> racho: don't know, this is a fresh install of Linux Lite and can't find much info from their support on the problem. It's been a while since I've ran linux...
[01:33] <_dale> racho: I will have to dig into the settings and see what I can find, thanks for hinting at things to check for
[01:33] <racho> _dale, does Linux Lite has a package manager and if yes can you query your installed packages for freetype?
[01:33] <pfifo> I think my shutdown problems stem from USB drives being plugged in, getting mounted in /media/pfifo, me not realizing their auto mounted cause im old skool, and unplugging the device leaving stale mounts.
[01:34] <ubuntu-studio> Hi. I installed Ubuntu Studio along with Windows 8.1 and runned Boot-Repair. After this Windows not appeared at GRUB. In this article http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/tired-of-windows-8-how-to-dual-boot-windows-ubuntu/ says that I have to use an EFI partition mounted at /boot/efi. How to encounter this partition or create it? Thank you in advance!
[01:34] <_dale> racho: yes it has a package manager, will search it for freetype
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-studio: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[01:36] <_dale> racho: it has libfreetype6 , fontconfig installed when I search for freetype inside synaptic
[01:36] <racho> _dale, is libfreetype6 installed?
[01:37] <_dale> racho: yes it's installed
[01:37] <NEone> A sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade results in this:
[01:37] <NEone> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:37] <NEone>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[01:37] <NEone> Why is it "kept back"? How can I install?
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> !dist-upgrade | neone
[01:37] <pfifo> NEone: use 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to upgrade
[01:37] <Random832> NEone: because you ran upgrade instead of dist-upgrade
 I unistalled UbuntuStudio 13.10 and I`m trying to install again using or creating the EFI partition mounted at /boot/efi.
[01:38] <NEone> !upgrade
[01:38] <racho> _dale, well that's strange. i suggest looking for more from Lite forums/IRC. also you can try to install some additional font families and check the font settings of your shell
[01:39] <racho> _dale, another option is to write your own .fonts.conf
[01:39] <_dale> racho: ok thanks, will keep digging
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-studio: as long as you boot the installer as uefi boot it will automatically do that for you
[01:42] <Nuclear_muffin> Is there a command I can type in terminal that will make it so I can hear my mic input?
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> Nuclear_muffin: you should be able to enable mic output in alsamixer
[01:43] <pfifo> Nuclear_muffin: you can turn the volume control up on you mic in alsamixer (on my card atleast)
[01:44] <pfifo> Nuclear_muffin: maybe `arecord | aplay` will be a second option
[01:44] <Nuclear_muffin> pfifo, It worked thank you.
[01:44] <Nuclear_muffin> pfifo, Its what I wanted, thanks
[01:45] <Nuclear_muffin> pfifo, Why is there so much feed back that I just didnt have when I was in windows?
[01:46] <pfifo> Nuclear_muffin: arecord and aplay by default use a really really crappy format, maybe try `arecord -f cd | aplay -f cd`
[01:46] <racho> Nuclear_muffin, you may want to open alsamixer press f5 and make sure Mic Boost is not ... too boosted
[01:48] <NEone> I have 2 identical servers. At least I thought so. Added own scripts to /etc/update-motd.d/ and one server actually show a new banner when ssh to it. But the other server does not update its motd:( Why?
[01:48] <jrib> NEone: are they both ubuntu? :)
[01:48] <bekks> NEone: Chech the sshd_config in /etc/ssh/
[01:48] <bekks> *check even
[01:49] <NEone> both ubuntu 12.04, yes. sshd_config is identical in both.
[01:50] <NEone> Didn't find out where to check what's the timer/cronjob for updating this. So I rebooted both servers. One still has the new motd, the other one still didn't update it.
[01:50] <ki4ro> Anyone know if a fix has been found for 13.10 not recognizing MP3 players?
[01:51] <bekks> NEone: Reboots do not help when using linux, except you want to boot a new kernel.
[01:51] <racho> NEone, does /etc/update-motd.d/00-header file has its execution bit set up?
[01:51] <pfifo> ki4ro: are you a radio operator?
[01:51] <ki4ro> pfifo, Yes
[01:51] <racho> NEone, because that usually overwrites your changes
[01:51] <ki4ro> pfifo since 1965
[01:51] <james41382> Is anyone here up on using Ubuntu with SSDs?
[01:52] <bekks> !anyone | james41382
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> james41382: fstrim /
[01:52] <racho> :)
[01:52] <racho> that TRIM thing
[01:53] <hitsujiTMO> james41382: or add discard to the fstab for auto trim
[01:53] <Crimson_Rogue> hello. I'm wondering if someone can tell me how to burn windows 7 on ubuntu
[01:53] <hitsujiTMO> james41382: if thats what you were going to ask
[01:54] <bekks> Crimson_Rogue: open a cd burning application, select the Windows 7 ISO, bur it as image, not as data cd.
[01:54] <Crimson_Rogue> brasareo work @ bekks?
[01:54] <james41382> I don't personally have an SSD drive.. I don't even use ubuntu, but I have a friend who has setup ubuntu on a computer that has an ssd drive and they said they're having some problems so I thought I'd look into the details of it and determine if maybe I could give them some things to try to correct it.
[01:54] <NEone> racho: Yes, all the numbered scripts there do have the +x. (On both servers)
[01:54] <bekks> Crimson_Rogue: I never used brasero until now.
[01:54] <james41382> SSD drive.. lol that's redundant...
[01:55] <racho> NEone, take a look at that http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12149/motd-not-changing
[01:55] <Crimson_Rogue> okay; thanks bekks I'll try brasero
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> james41382: exactly what problems, we need details
[01:55] <talsamon> Crimson_Rogue, brasero works well, also xfburn....
[01:56] <Crimson_Rogue> okay, and if I have ubuntu installed on my probook; will I be able to dual-boot with installing windows AFTER ubuntu?
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> Crimson_Rogue: yes, but it can be a little harder to setup
[01:57] <Crimson_Rogue> okay hitsujiTMO; do I have to fix the GRUB for trusty?
[01:57] <Crimson_Rogue> or will windows ignore grub?
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> Crimson_Rogue: is it uefi isntall or bios?
[01:58] <hitsujiTMO> install*
[01:58] <Crimson_Rogue> I have no idea...
[01:58] <Crimson_Rogue> all I know is I have ubuntu installed, and a windows iso
[01:58] <bekks> Crimson_Rogue: Windows will overwrite grub
[01:59] <Crimson_Rogue> okay bekks; is there an easy way to get grub back on without burning a seperate disk?
[01:59] <bekks> Crimson_Rogue: you need an ubuntu cd.
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO> for uefi its simplest to control the boot with the efi boot manager. you don;t need to do any extra finicky stuff to get it working
[01:59] <Crimson_Rogue> so I would have to enable uefi in the bios @ hitsujiTMO?
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> Crimson_Rogue: yes for that. be aware that either os will try and set itself as the default boot anything their boot loader or kernel gets an update
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> s/anything/anytime
[02:01] <Crimson_Rogue> okay, thank you hitsujiTMO
[02:01] <Crimson_Rogue> thank you bekks
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> Crimson_Rogue: for a bios/mbr boot you can also dd the grub bootstrap from the start of the drive before isntalling windows, then install dd in windows and dd it back. but thats more involved and dangerous than using boot repair
[02:04] <Crimson_Rogue> okay hitsujiTMO; thank you for your help
[02:06] <james41382> Honestly I don't know the details off hand, but he said that it freezes now and then and that he thought it might have something to do with the SSD support. I read that SSD is support under GNU/Linux and that it works better with newer kernels. I believe he is running 12.04 or 12.10.. which is kernel 3.5?
[02:07] <james41382> s/support/supported
[02:07] <hitsujiTMO> james41382: i doubt the ssd is the issue.
[02:08] <james41382> hitsujiTMO: That's helpful. Thanks. So SSD has solid support out of the box.. no additional quirks to configure?
[02:08] <hitsujiTMO> james41382: prob more an issue to do with gpu or cpu
[02:08] <bekks> james41382: 12.04 is on kernel 3.8 currently.
[02:08] <james41382> hitsujiTMO: Yeah I asked him if he knew what kind of video adapter was in the system, but he didn't know off hard.
[02:08] <james41382> s/hard/hand
[02:09] <james41382> 3.8.. okay. Well thanks a lot guys. You've been helpful. =]
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> james41382: when it comes to drives, support is mostly technology agnostic. its the interface that ubuntu needs to support
[02:11] <NEone> !ln
[02:12] <NEone> !symlink
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> james41382: theres a few extras with trim and such for ssds, but when it comes to read/write the disk type shouldn't matter
[02:19] <ki4ro> Anyone know if a fix has been found for 13.10 not recognizing MP3 players?
[02:20] <linguini> Is there some way to find out the ./configure settings used to compile /usr/bin/ssh-agent on my machine?
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> ki4ro: what mp3 player?
[02:27] <ki4ro> hitsujiTMO, Eclipse, but that has nothing to do with the problem.  It cannot see an IPOD either.  I can boot the system in PUPPY or Windows and the MP3 player shows up just fine
[02:28] <albert> hello there
[02:28] <Artemis3> ki4ro, ipods are the first to NOT work. the more chinese generic, the better :) they usually show as usb thumb
[02:30] <ki4ro> Artemis3, thanks, but the issue imo is 13.10 not the device
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> ki4ro: have you tried installing mtpfs?
[02:30] <reisio> albert: 'lo
[02:30] <ki4ro> hitsujiTMO, Yes
[02:32] <ki4ro> hitsujiTMO, Tried everything I could find thru google to no avail.  That is why I asked if 13.10 has been corrected yet
[02:33] <alice_huy> Hi all, I installed pidgin, and fail to launch it, when I I click on icon, it does nothing
[02:34] <hitsujiTMO> ki4ro: what filesystem is the mp3 players using?
[02:34] <ki4ro> hitsujiTMO, No idea, but it always worked fine until I ¨upgraded¨ to 13.10
[02:36] <_dale> racho: I found the problem to my fonts being chopped in Linux Lite, set Hinting to None under Rendering for font settings with anti-aliasing enabled... hope this helps someone else
[02:36] <_dale> racho: thanks for steering me in wright direction, things good better now on screen
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> ki4ro: most likely its just a case that its not auto mounting but you can manually mount . you might want to consider reporting a bug on the issue
[02:37] <mikeshollen> If I install ubuntu server LTS 12.04 as CLI and later decide I want a gui, can I install Lubuntu or are they separate things?
[02:38] <ki4ro> hitsujiTMO, I believe it has already been reported...appreciate your help
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: you can install lxde if you wish
[02:39] <mikeshollen> Is that the least resource intensive GUI available?
[02:39] <hitsujiTMO> ki4ro: best thing to do is to subscribe to the bug report then
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> mikeshollen: lxde is prob the lightest "near complete" desktop environment
[02:41] <mikeshollen> Perfect. Thank you!
[02:41] <Arun> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and i have a problem, I cannot log in to my normal account graphically, when i enter password in the login page screen blinks some times then the login page is showed again. Any ideas to fix this?
[02:42] <xmetal> hmm trying to figure out why my site loads correctly (the CSS) when uploaded, though the site doesn't load the css completely locally
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: can you use <ctrl> + <alt> + <f1> to get a virtual terminal and log in there?
[02:43] <Arun> ya i can do that
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: from there install pastebinit and run : pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[02:43] <Arun> i can login to the guest account graphically
[02:44] <ki4ro> hitsujiTMO, Thanks
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> arun: you can't install pastebinit or access all your home files in guest account tho :p
[02:45] <hitsujiTMO> xmetal: try #css
[02:47] <Arun> hitsuji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6466807/
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: wow that is a lot of errors
[02:49] <joecascio> Can a fellow get some installation help here?
[02:49] <Arun> hitsuji: actually i tried to open an .exe file using wine before things went wrong
[02:50] <pfifo> joecascio: it works better if you ask a detailed technical question
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> arun: can you delete the .xsession-errors                    and then try to relog in graphically again. then pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors      again
[02:51] <Arun> ok
[02:51] <joecascio> pfifo: Thanks! We downloaded the iso file and burned it to a DVD. But when we try to boot up the Intel PC using it, the bios insists there's no OS on it.
[02:53] <pfifo> joecascio: did you check the md5sum of the cd after burning it?
[02:53] <bruce> Hello all.  I was wondering if someone could help me.  I have a system where I installed Lubuntu and I wanted to install zpanel, to setup a number of server features.  I should have setup Ubuntu server but I didn't (long story - thought computer broken but got Lubuntu to install).
[02:53] <joecascio> pfifo: The disk verified, so I assume it's ok. The only question I have is that we burned it on a Mac.
[02:53] <bruce> Ok, so the thing is to install this zpanel, it is downloaded with wget, after changing to root user with sudo -i
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: did you md5 verify the iso tho?
[02:54] <joecascio> No.
[02:54] <joecascio> I wouldn't know how to do that.
[02:54] <pfifo> joecascio: id go with mac over windows anyday
[02:54] <bruce> and then the downloaded file (downloaded via wget) is marked as executable with chmod +x.  I did all that and now I get a message that I cannot execute this binary file.
[02:54] <Beldar> bruce, Technically 3rd party apps are not supported, you might consider just install the ubuntu server, much more support.
[02:55] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes   instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[02:55] <pfifo> joecascio: it sounds like the iso is broken
[02:55] <bruce> Beldar: I'm afraid that I won't have a running system.  I had for days tried to get something to install.
[02:56] <pfifo> bruce: why isnt stuff installing?
[02:56] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: Thank you. But what are the chances the ISO is bad? Does this happen a lot?
[02:56] <bruce> but does Ubuntu Server install anything special itself, that is not included with a desktop version?
[02:56] <Beldar> bruce, Not sure that is logical reasoning overall as far as support...etc, but heh its your decision.
[02:56] <madsailor> joecascio, even if the cd image verified it's still good practice to verify against the original md5 listed on the download page because it can get borked either during downloading or burning
[02:57] <bruce> I have a control panel setup on my hosting vps server and I installed zpanel, which is open source, versus cpanel which is not.
[02:57] <madsailor> easy to lose a bit here or there
[02:57] <pfifo> bruce: server dosent install Xorg and other gui related stuff
[02:57] <Beldar> bruce, The server is basically the same as the ubuntu base just no desktop.
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: it can happen occasionally. its an easy check to perform and good to get out of the way
[02:58] <bruce> ok, so this zpanel says that it needs to be installed before apache, Bind, mysql, dovecot, postfix, etc.  It installs all that.
[02:58] <Arun> hitsuji: there is no such file now
[02:59] <bruce> The only thing I can figure, is that maybe the parent folder for this app does not have execute privileges
[03:00] <Beldar> bruce, the zpanel is a 3rd party you will not get support for it except from them or a forum or a irc channel is it the best solution?
[03:00] <bruce> I am using this system for development but I wanted to also learn sys admin and to simulate what I have on the remote server.
[03:01] <bruce> Beldar, I understand.  I just don't understand in principle why an application would fail to execute.
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, since there's no log to point to the issue i'd start randomly resetting configs till you find the issue. start by renaming the .config folder: mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> arun^
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> then try to relog again
[03:02] <Arun> hitsuji: ok, btw i tried to go to the failsafe graphics mode and i got some error like screen not found
[03:02] <Beldar> bruce, Any number of reasons really, and this is not the place to fix it basically, you might try ##linux
[03:02] <pfifo> bruce: what application, what error messge is produced?
[03:02] <bruce> it makes it easy for getting email setup, as an aside... but the point of asking here is that on the Ubuntu box beside me, this app executed just fine.  So, I'm just confused as to what would keep any app from executing... ok.
[03:03] <bruce> it is zpanel or zpanelx
[03:04] <pfifo> bruce: error message?
[03:04] <bruce> it says "Cannot execute this Binary file."  It doesn't even get to any point of trying to check on ports being open or anything.  Just immediately says cannot execute this binary file.  It has execute privilege
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> arun: since you are able to login with guest and not your own account, its most likely some config in your home causing the issue
[03:04] <bruce> the error message is "Cannot execute this Binary File"
[03:04] <pfifo> bruce, are you trying to run a 64bit app on a 32 bit system?
[03:04] <Arun> hitsuji: i'll try and tell
[03:05] <bruce> hmm   good question.
[03:05] <bruce> that might be it... I think I unintentionally installed 32 bit Lubuntu
[03:06] <bruce> darn...   I wonder how hard it is to upgrade to a 64 bit version of the OS?
[03:06] <pfifo> bruce exmine the output of 'file ./zpanelx` vs the output of `uname -a`
[03:07] <pfifo> bruce: you ve to reinstall, you cant upgrade from 32 to 64
[03:08] <unicornjedi> hello. How do I see all the folders of my virtual machine in my host machine?
[03:08] <bruce> uname -a says i686 repeated 3 times?
[03:09] <Beldar> unicornjedi, Not sure you can a shared folder is the general use.
[03:09] <unicornjedi> beldar, okay
[03:09] <pfifo> bruce that a 32bit OS, if the other command says ELF 64-bit, then your trying to run 64 on a 32
[03:09] <Beldar> unicornjedi, people use ssh that would probably work
[03:09] <bruce> I see
[03:10] <unicornjedi> okay, but I want to use a GUI to view the folders. :/
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> unicornjedi: you could set up an nfs share
[03:10] <Beldar> unicornjedi, This virtualbox?
[03:10] <bruce> is it hard to upgrade a system to 64-bit - a fairly new system install?
[03:11] <Arun> hitsuji: i've renamed .config to .config1 then restarted, but the problem persits
[03:11] <pfifo> bruce: its not hard, its impossible.
[03:11] <impossible> its me
[03:11] <Beldar> it's you
[03:11] <unicornjedi> beldar, I am on my host OS, but I want to use nautilus to see folders within my virtual machine
[03:11] <pfifo> arr ye scallywag
[03:11] <impossible> good choice unicornjedi
[03:12] <bruce> it's impossible?
[03:12] <Beldar> unicornjedi, sure and don;t want to answer questions, good luck. ;)
[03:12] <pfifo> bruce: you have to format and fresh install a 64bit system
[03:12] <unicornjedi> beldar, what.
[03:12] <bruce> Oh, I see
[03:12] <NEone> Is it possible to switch off IPv6 in Ubuntu 12.04 server?
[03:13] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, what is your host os?
[03:13] <Beldar> unicornjedi, "unicornjedi, This virtualbox?"
[03:13] <unicornjedi> wheatthin, ubuntu saucy salamander
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> arun: next i'd try: .cache        then: .compiz           then: .gconf
[03:13] <unicornjedi> Beldar, yes
[03:13] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, just setup ssh server on the guest, and you can browse it through nautilus on the host
[03:14] <Beldar> unicornjedi, I don;t think what you want is possible but #vbox would probably a good source for more opinions.
[03:14] <NEone> Or can I tell apache2 to listen to tcp instead of tcp6 ?
[03:14] <bruce> maybe I should do that then.  Just start with Ubuntu Server and then take it from there
[03:14] <unicornjedi> wheatthin, can you help me out with that on #vbox?
[03:15] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: I just have funny feeling I'm creating a disk with entirely the wrong format. Like the Mac is not writing an ISO format. It's just writing the .iso file as a plain old file. Does that make any sense?
[03:15] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, nope.. just sudo apt-get install openssh-server on the guest if it's ubuntu as well
[03:15] <bruce> what is a good app for creating a bootable usb device?
[03:16] <Random832> bootable how? from a livecd, or just in general?
[03:16] <pfifo> joecascio: that is a possibility, i have no idea how to verify that in mac
[03:16] <Random832> i.e. do you want to generally boot a system and run off it, or do you want to install linux from a usb drive instead of from a cd
[03:16] <bruce> in general, from a download on a Ubuntu system
[03:16] <bruce> yes, I don't have any free dvds
[03:16] <Random832> unetbootin has always worked for me
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: ahh you burned it as data and not image. i think you can use disk utility to propperly burn the iso, otherwise you need to convert it to an .img and then burn wuth disk utility
[03:17] <wheatthin> joecascio, Umm you mean a dmg file instead of an iso?
[03:17] <Beldar> !who | Random832
[03:17] <Random832> Beldar: the traffic's not that high at 10 at night
[03:17] <Random832> but anyway, bruce knows i'm talking to him
[03:17] <unicornjedi> wheatthin, soooo, I have openssh server. What do I do now
[03:17] <bruce> I want to download the latest version of Ubuntu 12.04 server and burn it to a bootable usb device
[03:17] <Random832> bruce: unetbootin
[03:18] <bruce> ok
[03:18] <Beldar> Random832, not an issue to argue just use nicks it is a common courtesy.
[03:18] <bruce> thanks
[03:18] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, go to nautilus and connect to server :) give your credentials and vuala
[03:18] <Random832> bruce: it'll even download it for you
[03:18] <joecascio> wheatthin: No, not a dmg. Just a plain old file to dvd.
[03:18] <Arun> hitsuji: renamed all  the three still no use :(
[03:18] <wheatthin> bruce, use dd
[03:18] <Random832> wheatthin: does that work? i heard that doesn't work
[03:19] <wheatthin> Random832, and why wouldn't it work? lol
[03:19] <bruce> use dd?
[03:19] <Random832> because the iso format is meant to boot from a cd and most systems won't know what to do with it if they find it on a different kind of disk
[03:19] <bruce> how does it download it?
[03:19] <wheatthin> by using DD, it's an exact replica
[03:19] <Random832> bruce: unetbootin? you select ubuntu 12.04 from a list of things it lets you download
[03:20] <bruce> oh, ok
[03:20] <Random832> wheatthin: have you ever done this? do you know what you're talking about, or are you just assuming it would work
[03:20] <wheatthin> Random832, I wouldn't suggest it if I hadn't done it or suggested it multiple times already
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> arun: ok can you create a new account: adduser <newuser>
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> arun: sudo adduser <nuwuser>      sorry
[03:21] <Arun> hitsuji: abandon this one?
[03:21] <bruce> thanks, later...
[03:21] <Random832> huh then i'm not sure why unetbootin exists
[03:22] <konstantinos> hello there
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: no, just going to reset the home folder, which you need another account to do
[03:22] <pfifo> ive been able to get a USB stick to boot by using dd to write an iso to it. but it dosent always work.
[03:22] <wheatthin> Random832, DD works universaly :) Are you sure you know what you're talking about?
[03:22] <Arun> hitsuji: ok
[03:22] <Random832> wheatthin: some bioses might be picky about it, see what pfifo said
[03:22] <wheatthin> pfifo, it should always work if you have a system that boots from a usb device.
[03:23] <wheatthin> But that has nothing to do with DD itself.
[03:23] <Arun> hitsuji: created
[03:23] <hitsujiTMO> Arun: sudo usermod -aG sudo <newuser>
[03:24] <pfifo> wheatthin: some time it can be a bios problem, but also the iso file itself can be the problem, for example, I have never been able to get the mini.iso to work with dd
[03:24] <Random832> some systems can boot from a regular filesystem on usb and not from an iso
[03:24] <wheatthin> Random832, it doesn't show up as an iso fyi
[03:24] <Arun> hitsuji: done
[03:24] <hitsujiTMO> arun: once thats done, relog to the new user
[03:25] <Random832> wheatthin: i'm talking about the format, not the name
[03:25] <Random832> FAT vs ISO
[03:25] <Arun> hitsuji: logged in to the new uset
[03:25] <Random832> the filesystem typ
[03:25] <Random832> e
[03:25] <Arun> *user
[03:25] <wheatthin> if it's a proper bootable image, there should be no problems.
[03:25] <Random832> wheatthin: you're not listening
[03:26] <Random832> there are two types of bootable filesystem - FAT and ISO
[03:26] <hitsujiTMO> arun: ok: sudo mv /home/<olduser> /home/<olduser>.old
[03:26] <Random832> some systems cannot handle ISO on a usb drive
[03:26] <unicornjedi> wheatthin, I connected to the server but all I see is the 'print' folder
[03:26] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, you have to specify the path you want to use.
[03:26] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: The other strange thing is that when I burn the .iso file, the final dialog says, "Image blahblah.iso burned successfully". But then the Mac can't mount the completed disk.
[03:26] <Random832> if you don't even know what FAT is or how it is relevant, just stop having this conversation. saying "it doesn't show up as an iso" or thinking that's relevant to what i said shows your ignorance
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: can the mac mount the .iso?
[03:27] <Arun> hitsuji: ok done
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> arun: sudo cp -r /etc/skel /home/<olduser>
[03:28] <wheatthin> joecascio, it can't mount it, because of it's encoded filesystem for a livedvd image.
[03:28] <hitsujiTMO> arun: sudo chown -R <olduser>:<olduser> /home/<olduser>
[03:28] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: No, just tried that actually. Says, "no mountable file system".
[03:29] <pfifo> joecascio: what is the size of the iso file?
[03:29] <wheatthin> osx doesn't natively support ext file systems
[03:29] <unicornjedi> wheatthin, So  Open Nautlius > connect to server > IPAddress ?????
[03:29] <Arun> hitsuji: done
[03:29] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[03:29] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, yes, ssh:ipaddress then login info
[03:29] <hitsujiTMO> arun: try log into the old account
[03:30] <joecascio> pfifo: 679.5 meg
[03:30] <pfifo> joecascio: that seems too small
[03:30] <pfifo> joecascio: shoul;d be like 800
[03:30] <pfifo> (for the latest images)
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo the mac image is smaller
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: wait im wrong
[03:31] <pfifo> i know
[03:31] <joecascio> pfifo: That's the download from ubuntu.com. It's the 32 bit version
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: you need the 64bit for mac
[03:32] <unicornjedi> wheatthin, can you give me a specific example? ssh:<IP_ADDRESS>/????
[03:32] <pfifo> joecascio: on linux i run `md5sum file.iso` and if mac dosent have md5sum then. well thats pretty silly
[03:33] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: (install target is a intel machine)
[03:33] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: I'm not loading it on a Mac, I'm loading it on an old DELL intel box. I have to burn the DVD on my Mac, tho.
[03:33] <BuntuFuntu> Hey ya'll. I need help with a Touchpad issue?
[03:33] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, heh.. You just have to specify the protocol and the ipaddress and then the login credentials.
[03:33] <^^Superfluous^^> Im having a touchpad issue as well
[03:33] <joecascio> pfifo: I'll try that, thanks.
[03:34] <BuntuFuntu> First problem I've had with Ubuntu. Laptops touchpad has worked fine since I installed Ubuntu but today I was watching a youtube video and it started spassing out
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> ahh. still pfifo point is valid. the i386 for 13.10 id 895MB
[03:34] <BuntuFuntu> Spazzing*
[03:34] <unicornjedi> wheatthin, ssh:myipaddress/hostname/password?
[03:34] <BuntuFuntu> Not sure what's going on. I've tried xinput --float and xinput--reattach
[03:34] <^^Superfluous^^> In cinnamon, my screen freezes occasionally when using the touchpad
[03:34] <BuntuFuntu> Touchpad isn't even working in live mode anymore.
[03:35] <BuntuFuntu> Hardware is detected. Does anyone have any idea how to get it to work again?
[03:35] <Beldar> BuntuFuntu, Can you consolidate this into one post so you can actually be followed
[03:35] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, Ummm you're obviously not following the onscreen prompt that you SHOOULD get when you get to 'Connect to Server'
[03:35] <BuntuFuntu> Long  story short. Buntu needs his touchpad to work again Beldar.
[03:36] <Beldar> BuntuFuntu, Then wait for help, and not spread it all over the channel. ;)
[03:36] <wheatthin> BuntuFuntu, make sure your synaptic package is still installed
[03:36] <^^Superfluous^^> hrm
[03:36] <BuntuFuntu> Wheatthin: I'm guessing it was since it's worked fine since I installed it?
[03:36] <wheatthin> synaptic touchpad utils
[03:36] <^^Superfluous^^> still freezes on the off time
[03:36]  * ^^Superfluous^^ dies
[03:37] <BuntuFuntu> Installed the OS I mean, wheatthin.
[03:37] <joecascio> pfifo: md5 checks ok.
[03:37] <wheatthin> BuntuFuntu, Either that, or you have it disabled from function key
[03:37] <anex> lol
[03:37] <pfifo> BuntuFuntu: you said it dosent work on livecd's either
[03:37] <anex> haha\
[03:37] <pfifo> joecascio: what is the name and md5sum if the file, id like to double check
[03:37] <BuntuFuntu> Wheatthin: Tried that it's not working when i toggle with the function key and yes Pfifo
[03:37] <Beldar> ^^Superfluous^^, what does this command show. lsb_release -a
[03:37] <anex> damn first time on linux  been drinking 40s since i remember no sleep
[03:38] <anex> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Mt6Isew_0&list=ALYL4kY05133pZoeVaEZxWZWODboAi62vD
[03:38] <wheatthin> anex, no spam plz
[03:38] <joecascio> pfifo: e7917ff0543d8248d00ffb166def849e  ubuntu-12.04.3-server-i386.iso I just checked the web site. It's correct.
[03:38] <anex> stfu
[03:38] <anex> just stfu
[03:38] <wheatthin> negative, take it somewhere else
[03:38] <unicornjedi> wheatthin, I am only getting two things in 'connect to Server'   SERVER ADDRESS and RECENT SERVERS
[03:38] <anex> ;/
[03:38] <pfifo> BuntuFuntu: did you recently get bitten by a zombie? Touchpads only work with living fingers
[03:38] <Beldar> !ops | anex
[03:39] <anex> damn
[03:39] <anex> nofun
[03:39] <Flannel> anex: Please help keep this channel on topic (and remain polite), thanks.
[03:39] <BuntuFuntu> Pfifo: No?
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: md5 is correct
[03:39] <anex> kkk, sorry
[03:39] <anex> lol
[03:40] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, there should be server address, but it should also have a slot where you select which protocol and login credentials.
[03:40] <anex> whats a good music streaming app for ubuntu?
[03:40] <wheatthin> unicornjedi, otherwise it doesn't know if youw ant to connect to ftp, ssh, telnet, or whatever
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: i'd go ahead and try http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx     at least get to the converting the .iso to .img   and then burn the .img
[03:40] <unicornjedi> wheatthin, it doesn't. Nautilus on Ubuntu saucy doesn't have that :(((((((
[03:41] <anex> none?
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> anex: minidlna
[03:42] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, just reading that. Seems like the way to go. If I get a proper .img file, it should burn properly. (I hope)
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: once you get the .img try and mount it first at least
[03:42] <knoxy> Hi all. When I run update-initramfs -u, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/sKV7QHei - This is a ubuntu bug from upgrade?
[03:42] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: Roger that.
[03:43] <wheatthin> joecascio, can always compare the md5checksum
[03:43] <BuntuFuntu> Touchpad still not working..
[03:44] <knoxy> [changing the paste url] Hi all. When I run update-initramfs -u, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6466958/ - This is a ubuntu bug from upgrade?
[03:44] <zaccattak217> hello?
[03:44] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: There is a UI option I saw to convert to .dmg. I wonder if that's different than an img.
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: yes its different
[03:45] <Arun> hitsuji: thankyou :)
[03:45] <zaccattak217> how do i hook up my logitech c200 webcam to my laptop?
[03:45] <cameron_>  /server irc.icq.com
[03:45] <Beldar> zaccattak217, plug it in open cheese and see if it works.
[03:45] <cameron_> wtf..
[03:46] <zaccattak217> what's cheese?
[03:46] <Random832> icq?
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> arun: just copy over your configs and files bit by bit from your old home
[03:46] <Random832> 1997 called
[03:46] <Beldar> zaccattak217, its installed in your ubuntu and is a webcam app
[03:46] <Arun> hitsuji: doing it and how to delete that new user?
[03:46] <zaccattak217> ohh. thanks
[03:46] <pfifo> knoxy: ive never heard of libmdma whats that all about?
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: you can still try it tho for the .dmg
[03:47] <Beldar> zaccattak217, should be installed if not run sudo apt-get install cheese
[03:47] <BuntuFuntu> brb
[03:47] <zaccattak217> ight
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> arun: you can delete it in system settings -> users
[03:48] <Arun> ok :) thanks
[03:48] <knoxy> pfifo, me too, I never heard of...
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: what did you use to encrypt the file system?
[03:49] <zaccattak217> can i use my webcam with skype?
[03:49] <pfifo> knoxy: i dont mean to scare you, but it sounds like part of a rootkit, and google didnt have any results about it. I was hoping you say its your own pet project.
[03:49] <Beldar> zaccattak217, if it works yes.
[03:49] <zaccattak217> cool. thanks Beldar
[03:50] <knoxy> hitsujiTMO: I dont know... I'm trying to upgrade the kernel.... only upgrade
[03:50] <Beldar> zaccattak217, No problem, use the skype from the ubuntu repos.
[03:50] <bruce> for some reason, the ubuntu server 12.04 did not detect my ethernet card.
[03:50] <knoxy> pfifo: hmm, rootkit? hacker tool?
[03:50] <zaccattak217> how do i do that?
[03:51] <Beldar> zaccattak217, sudo apt-get install skype in the terminal
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: do you have an encrypted filesystem?
[03:51] <bruce> I tried to install Ubuntu server using Unetbootin and it says that no network adapter can be found.
[03:51] <pfifo> knoxy, could be from your ISP as part of control panels, or other 3rd party tools
[03:51] <zaccattak217> sowhat if i already installed it from their website?
[03:51] <Beldar> zaccattak217, There is also the ubuntu software center to install apps with.
[03:51] <knoxy> hitsujiTMO: this is a dedicated server. The datacenter install ubuntu to me..
[03:52] <Beldar> zaccattak217, The one in the repos is more up to date is all.
[03:52] <knoxy> hitsujiTMO: I use this server only to run my applications (lamp)
[03:52] <Oddity> zaccattak217 of Haven & Hearth fame?
[03:52] <zaccattak217> so should i delete my current skype then download the one you said?
[03:52] <bruce> apparently lubuntu recognizes my ethernet card but not Ubuntu server
[03:52] <knoxy> pfifo: the datacenter install a libs to backup. This is the information I know
[03:53] <Beldar> zaccattak217, Up to you the ubuntu skype wiki suggests using the repos.
[03:53] <zaccattak217> thank you
[03:53] <PDilyard_> ok im on a uefi machine and i've deallocated the space that i had 12.10 installed in (im installing 13.10). When, I run the installer, ubuntu does not give me the option to install alongside windows (which, in my experience, will install into the unallocated space)
[03:54] <pfifo> knoxy, well this is failing because it cant find /lib/lib__mdma.so.1 which seems to be from some 3rd party
[03:54] <PDilyard_> so if i choose "something else" in the installer, how do i select what partition to install to?
[03:54] <knoxy> pfifo: I always updated the server. I've problems only with this upgrade....
[03:54] <Beldar> PDilyard_, Was that you experience with the 12.10 install?
[03:54] <Beldar> your*
[03:55] <knoxy> pfifo: I've this server since 2011 I think...
[03:55] <zaccattak217> it says i have the current version so i'll just keep what i have
[03:55] <PDilyard_> Beldar: no, that was my experience on my desktop, which is not uefi
[03:55] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: that looks to be something to do with filesystem encryption ( which explains why its being called that this point )   this is something you'll need to get onto your provider about straight away. DO NOT reboot the machine
[03:55] <Beldar> PDilyard_, Ah well uefi is different hold on for the bot.
[03:55] <Beldar> !uefi | PDilyard
[03:56] <pfifo> knoxy: I second NOT  rebooting, it likely wont come back up
[03:56] <pfifo> knoxy: nows a good time to make a backup of your work too
[03:56] <knoxy> pfifo: hitsujiTMO omg...
[03:56] <Beldar> PDilyard, here is another, this mod is about the best consistent help as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[03:56] <PDilyard_> Beldar: step 4: "Install Ubuntu from the Live CD/DVD or Live USB in the usual manner, then reboot the PC. "  the usual manner is not working for me
[03:56] <zaccattak217> is there anyway to get itunes on ubuntu?
[03:57] <Beldar> PDilyard_, uefi is different, read the links, and recognize that uefi here is a bit foreign to most here
[03:57] <xangua> zaccattak217: if it is for managing an iOS device you better use a windows install or a virtual machine
[03:58] <knoxy> pfifo: hitsujiTMO look the update-grub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6466990/
[03:58] <zaccattak217> windows install?
[03:58] <knoxy> pfifo: hitsujiTMO its ok to reboot? or not?
[03:58] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: no
[03:58] <mikeshollen> During the installation process of Ubuntu Server, if I choose to install services like LAMP or OpenSSH, do they just take up storage space on my drive, or are the actively running services at that point that consume CPU and RAM?
[03:58] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: Ok, it created the img file, but appended a .dmg to the end. Should I remove that?
[03:59] <pfifo> knoxy: no, dont reboot, make a backup of your stuff
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: if it is an encrypted filesystem then it may fail to boot with the broken initramfs
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: no, try mounting the .dmg
[03:59] <PDilyard_> Beldar: i understand that its different, but im having trouble understand what im supposed to actually do differently, as the steps for installation are unclear (e.g. "install ubuntu in the usual manner")
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> joecascio: if that works unmount it and burn it away
[04:00] <Beldar> PDilyard_, If I knew uefi I would help you.
[04:00] <zaccattak217> xangua: windows install?
[04:00] <PDilyard_> mmk well im rebooting then
[04:00] <Oddity> zaccattak217, he means to use Windows. Either dual-boot or install it in a virtual machine.
[04:01] <zaccattak217> what's a virtual machine?
[04:01] <Oddity> Google
[04:02] <hitsujiTMO> zaccattak217: a virtual machine allows you to install a virtual computer with windows inside your ubuntu installation
[04:02] <zaccattak217> how do i do that?
[04:02] <pi_> hi guys, how's everyone doing?
[04:02] <hitsujiTMO> zaccattak217: its the only way to get itunes fully working in ubuntu
[04:02] <xangua> zaccattak217: why don't we start from the beggining and tell us what do you need itune for¿
[04:02] <donmarquis> hi pi_
[04:03] <pfifo> keeping it real pi_ how about you?
[04:03] <zaccattak217> i have an ipod and i need to add music and manage the ipod and i don't like using rythemnbox or clemetine
[04:04] <pi_> not bad :) just on the laptop while my gf and her mates are really annoying and drunk :/ haha
[04:04] <xangua> zaccattak217: do rhythmbox or clementine work¿
[04:04] <Beldar> pi_, Do you have a UBUNTU ISSUE?
[04:04] <donmarquis> pi_ you are lucky and unlucky at the same time
[04:04] <mikeshollen> During the installation of Ubuntu Server, if I choose to install services like LAMP or OpenSSH, do they just take up storage space until I use them or are they actively running services that consume CPU and RAM at all times?
[04:04] <knoxy> hitsujiTMO: how can I do to know if my filesystem is encrypted?
[04:04] <Beldar> SORRY FOR THE CAPS
[04:04] <pi_> zaccattak217: no option for itunes i imagine? and wow! your alias is hard to type!
[04:04] <Beldar> doh
[04:04] <mikeshollen> zaccattack217: A few years ago I managed to get iTunes to work through WINE.
[04:05] <zaccattak217> yes they do work but i'd just prefer to use itunes because it's much easier and that's what i'm used to
[04:05] <zaccattak217> i tried using wine but it didn't work
[04:05] <pi_> xangua: hello :)
[04:05] <knoxy> pfifo: I'm make a backup...
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: whats the output of: mount
[04:06] <carl_> if u mounted successfully, there would be no output info
[04:06] <tgm4883> !tab | pi_
[04:06] <pi_> i'd seriously just do it in windows, installing i will save you hours of getting itunes to work, you can alwasy format it away and pretend you never insttalled i xD
[04:06] <Beldar> !ot | pi_
[04:06] <knoxy> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6467010/
[04:07] <pi_> my t buton isn't working properly :(
[04:08] <pearler> hello
[04:08] <pi_> whoever gave me the ubotu tip... thanks :) i can't tell who sent it because i's disappeared off of my screen
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: ok, doesn't look to be encrypted BUT initramfs is probably broken and can still cause boot failure
[04:08] <xmetal> hmm
[04:09] <xmetal> funny ... i am taking a break from CSS to study circuitry (less of a headache to me)
[04:09] <xmetal> :P
[04:09] <Beldar> !ot | xmetal
[04:09] <crazyhorse> you mean CSS as in html and css?
[04:09] <xmetal> i knew that was coming
[04:09] <xmetal> :P
[04:09] <knoxy> hitsujiTMO: I can try to install a other linux-image (version)... ?
[04:09] <xmetal> an OT nazi
[04:09] <xmetal> yes... and yes i know this is the ubuntu room
[04:10] <knoxy> hitsujiTMO: or its a initramfs error and the new version cant solve?
[04:10] <slut_tits> hi
[04:10] <crazyhorse> !anl | Beldar
[04:10] <pi_> xmetal: i'm the opposite! i hink css is miles easier than electronics! i still couldn't tell you what a capacitor is seful for xDu
[04:10] <crazyhorse> css IS easier than electornics
[04:10] <crazyhorse> much easier
[04:10] <Beldar> yeah it is the moron hour
[04:11] <crazyhorse> you can teach CSS in a few hours.. you can't teach electronics
[04:11] <xmetal> oh i know it should be but i am not getting the results i expect (and the funny thing is i have not messed with my css files for years)... anyway even i admit this is OT
[04:11] <xmetal> so i am leaving it alone in this channel
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: if you're happy to backup and start from scratch then reinstalling the image can get you back to a working system again. just update fully and test to make sure the issue doesn't reoccur in the new install
[04:12] <pi_> xmetal: if you find electronics easier than css, keep at it, you're on to a winner :)
[04:13] <xmetal> lol
[04:13] <jgcampbell300> i have 3 locations and i need a server in each location incase the internet drops ... but files need to be up dated and working
[04:13] <richard305> hey nightowls -- anyone from the boston area who knows a good place to take a ubuntu laptop for expert advice? i've got something that's above my paygrade that i'd like fixed, and i've already screwed up my machine once doing it
[04:14] <crazyhorse> haha @ <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anl
[04:14] <xmetal> i am in electonics "101" i admit it ...getting more practice with thevenin therom .. haven't gotten to AC stuff yet
[04:14] <richard305> just finalizing a complete reinstall and would rather not do it again
 Let me teach you; <ubottu> I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[04:14] <knoxy> hitsujiTMO: I meant to keep this copy, just update the kernel.
[04:14] <pi_> xmetal: i slightly understand DC, all i know about AC is that it alternates haha :)
[04:15] <Beldar> richard305, You can get paid support from canonical.
[04:15] <joecascio> hitsujiTMO: Burned the img.dmg and tried it in the PC. No luck. BIOS still says "Missing Operating System".
[04:15] <xmetal> ah same as me. pi_
[04:15] <xmetal> :P
[04:16] <pearler> I got a mail virus today.   AAaaaarrgggghhhh
[04:16] <pi_> xmetal: :D i was reading up on it, but I los interest and startted geeking abou something else xD
[04:17] <Beldar> pearler, how are you sure of this?
[04:17] <pi_> xmetal: forgive my lack of "t"s my keyboard has had its day
[04:17] <pfifo> digital logic is much more fun than the analog stuff your doing
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: that aint gonna work. its nothing to do with the kernel. your initramfs setup has hooks to a script that requires 2 libraries that are missing. there's still a chance that those 2 files are part of some sort of root kit too.  you need to find out what they're from and renistall it and for that you need to get onto your provider
[04:17] <pi_> brb
[04:17] <richard305> Beldar: really? i'll have to look into that. i've been trying for two days to get tihis new laptop's nvidia card running and just wrecked it all and had to start from scratch
[04:17] <richard305> waste of two days
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> knoxy: otherwise you need you backup and do a complete reinstall
[04:18] <pearler> I'm ssure.  How do I get rid of it?   A good virus cleaner ??
[04:18] <Beldar> pearler, A virus in linux is highly unlikely.
[04:18] <xmetal> ah ha .... it was (for FF anyway) an addon issue
[04:18] <Beldar> richard305, good nvidia support here generally, if you can stand the wait at times.
[04:18] <pearler> It's in my mail.
[04:19] <xmetal> !virus
[04:19] <pfifo> pearler: whats the virus do?
[04:19] <JordanJ2> How do I change ownership of a folder from root to my user?
[04:19] <pi_> back :)
[04:19] <pearler> The  virus keepss putting advertisements at the top of my email.
[04:19] <xmetal> in Linux?
[04:19] <pearler> Can't get rid of it.  Can't delete
[04:20] <pi_> JordanJ2: sudo chown *user* /your/user/here
[04:20] <xmetal> hmm
[04:20] <pearler> Ubuntu
[04:20] <pi_> JprdanJ2l: sorry, /your/folder/here
[04:20] <zzxc> ubottu: Java JVM's can be infected.
[04:20] <xmetal> that  doesn't sound right for some reason
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> pearler: i think thats called gmail.    :P          but that could be your mail provider injecting the ads
[04:20] <pfifo> pearler: what do you use for sending/recieving mail?
[04:20] <knoxy> hitsujiTMO: I signed a new ticket in support of datacenter. Thanks for help man...
[04:20] <JordanJ2> pi_ *user*
[04:20] <xmetal> i agree with hitsujiTMO on that one
[04:20] <JordanJ2> ?
[04:21] <zzxc> Weeelll that makes sense
[04:21] <xmetal> email provider (especially free email) may be injecting the ads
[04:21] <pearler> I've been using yahoo mail
[04:21] <pi_> JordanJ2: so for example, my user is pi, so i'd type "sudo chown pi /folder/to/be/owned
[04:22] <hitsujiTMO> pearler: do the ads get injected if you use the webmail interface?
[04:22] <pfifo> pearler: you use the web interface for yahoo mail?
[04:22] <pearler> yess
[04:22] <JordanJ2> Got it. thank you pi_
[04:23] <pi_> JordanJ2: no worried :
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> pearler: and when you use another browser?
[04:23] <pfifo> pearler: then its working properly, and you do not have a virus
[04:23] <cripto> Quick confusing question, how can I have non admin users be able to start and stop a paticular service as well as view its logs
[04:23] <pearler> Haven't tried another browser.   Was hoping to just clean this up.
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: unless its a rogue browser extension
[04:24] <JordanJ2> I can change it back to root with user = root?
[04:24] <hitsujiTMO> pearler: install a new browser and check
[04:24] <pi_> cripo: i#'m not sure that you can... i think it takes root privelages to start and stop services :(
[04:25] <pi_> cripto: sorry, my t button barely works, i sent you a message :)
[04:25] <hitsujiTMO> cripto: yes. you can add sudo entries for particular apps/scripts
[04:26] <pi_> hisujiTMO: how do you do that?
[04:27] <jarray52> I'm having trouble transferring photos from my android device to Ubuntu 12.04. Anyone know how to do this?
[04:27] <cripto> hitsujiTMO: Can you link me to something to help me do that
[04:27] <cripto> pi_: thanks, I saw the first one
[04:28] <hitsujiTMO> cripto: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/sudo
[04:28] <jarray52> When Using Open Shot Well, it says Starting import, please wait, but it doesn't do anything.
[04:28] <pi_> cripto: no problem :)
[04:30] <cripto> hitsujiTMO: so, say I want to let them view and start and stop tomcat, I can then make them part of the same group as tomcat and they can sudo?
[04:30] <hitsujiTMO> cripto: so you can simply do: username ALL=/usr/bin/tail /user/bin/touch
[04:31] <tozen> jarray52: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[04:31] <pi_> hitsujiTMO: so any user would then be able to sart/stop he service?
[04:32] <cripto> no, a set of user be able to start and stop a set of services
[04:32] <cripto> say apache and tomcat
[04:32] <cripto> as well as read its logs
[04:32] <jarray52> tozen: What if I'm using PTP mode?
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> cripto: pi_:  for a service you can use a wrapper script and then in visudo: %group ALL=/path/to/script
[04:34] <pi_> hitsujiTMO: you've lost me haha xD i'm just eavesdropping because i don't understand
[04:34] <tozen> jarray52: no ideas i dont
[04:35] <lemonsparrow> I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTE using a live CD alongside my windows 7. After installation, when I boot my PC I get the error   Kernel panic - Not syncing: no init found. Try passing init=option to kernel” 12.04 first boot
[04:35] <lemonsparrow> how to fix the issue... help please
[04:35] <hitsujiTMO> cripto: logs can be a bit trickier. best to have a script cat the log to a file the user can read.
[04:36] <hitsujiTMO> cripto then ofcourse have script in your visudo too
[04:36] <cripto> hitsujiTMO: Okay, I think I undrestand
[04:36] <pi_> lemonsparrow: i think you may have a kernel problem, the first thing i'd do is wipe the partion and jus try agin
[04:36] <pfifo> !info mazeofgalious
[04:36] <cripto> hitsujiTMO: I think its better to pull these services to a different server and give them full root permissions
[04:36] <lemonsparrow> pi_: will I lose my data from windows /?
[04:37] <pi_> lemonsparrow: as long as you don't delete your windows partition, anything saved on you C:/ drive should still be there
[04:38] <lemonsparrow> pi_: rest will go ?
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> cripto: well if you want to trust them with full access to a server then that option is ok. the custom visudo rules is the safer option
[04:38] <pi_> lemonsparrow: as to actually booting windows with two operating systems, you'll need o make sure you have a bootloader
[04:39] <lemonsparrow> pi_: OK... given the scanerio now, is there any thing I can do now to fix the issue... without losing windows and all the data if not ubuntu ?
[04:39] <pi_> lemonsparrow: yeah, just don't delete any hard drive partitions where you have important data, it's worth backing up anything important first
[04:40] <lemonsparrow> pi_: so any step by step guideline reference for this ?  Anyone have any thoughts?
[04:41] <lemonsparrow> pi_: the partition (x drive) I have used for ubuntu installtion is empty.. it doesnt have any data.. so why do I need backup />>
[04:42] <Beldar> zzxc, blinking empty prompt?
[04:43] <zzxc> Beldar: Basically a black screen with a curser biking in the top left hand corner.
[04:43] <Beldar> !nomodeset | zzxc
[04:43] <pi_> lemonsparrow: you should back up anything on your windows drive... just in case i all goes south
[04:44] <Beldar> zzxc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[04:44] <lemonsparrow> pi_: actually I have lots of data but I dont have a drive to back it up..
[04:44] <pi_> lemonsparrow:  as to step by step, i couldn't tell you tbh. google ought to bring something up. read about disk partitions :)
[04:45] <lemonsparrow> pi_: how about this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootSectorFix
[04:45] <pi_> lemonsparrow: ahh, in that case you need to be careful. double check tha you don't accidentally install ubuntu onto your windows partition :)
[04:45] <pi_> lemonsparrow:  brb
[04:45] <lemonsparrow> pi_: ok
[04:46] <xmetal> thats a bad thing to do?
[04:46] <xmetal> :P
[04:47] <zzxc> Beldar: Alright cool thanks. Do you know how to set it on server machines by chance?
[04:47] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, You have a W7 install or recovery disc/usb/iso?
[04:48] <zzxc> Beldar: actually this may not be it. Its not even loading grub. Its like there is no partition on the machine that is bootable.
[04:48] <Beldar> zzxc, Your getting a blinking cursor on a server install with no desktop?
[04:48] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: I have a windows installer CD
[04:48] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, Is windows still there?
[04:49] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: windows is still there.. but not able to boot..
[04:49] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, W7 cd, it would have to be a dvd unless a recovery on a cd.
[04:49] <noobsz> any ideas on as to why I can no longer use my password for sudo?
[04:49] <noobsz> or su?
[04:50] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: I have recovery option in CD that should help right ?
[04:50] <noobsz> It won't accept it and no the caps lock isn't on
[04:50] <zzxc> Beldar, I'm not really sure how that would happen. Then is a monitor attached currently but the machine generally runs headless. I did a 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrade a while back that broke my system. I'm trying to fix it now so there is a monitor attached.
[04:50] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, That will work this a mbr msdos or a uefi install?
[04:50] <mikeshollen> When I install Ubuntu Server, if I chose to install services like LAMP or OpenSSH, will they initially only take up storage space until I need to use them for something, or will they consume CPU and RAM just for choosing to install them from the CD?
[04:51] <tgm4883> mikeshollen, they will start their services at boot
[04:51] <zzxc> Beldar, I've tried both the ubuntu server iso and the ubuntu desktop instance.
[04:51] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, YOu can reload the windows bootloader is the point here.
[04:51] <mikeshollen> I can always install them later then, correct?
[04:51] <tgm4883> yes
[04:51] <pfifo> mikeshollen: they will use cpu nd ram if you start them, but if you dont start them, only space
[04:52] <tgm4883> or you could disable their startup
[04:52] <mikeshollen> If I want a web-admin service to remote control my server from my iPhone or another computer, do I need OpenSSH?
[04:52] <tgm4883> pfifo, they start by default
[04:52] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: I tried using the windows 7 CD... when I tried for recovery option it asked for fresh installation so I dont think that will help
[04:52] <Beldar> zzxc, both have a blinking cursor, the server has no X, a blin king cursor generally is a missing driver for a desktop install.
[04:52] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: I think I will need to try ubuntu live
[04:52] <lemonsparrow> I can access the grub terminal..
[04:52] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, YOu would not run the recovefry but use the command line, once grub is in the mbr it wont repair that.
[04:53] <zzxc> mikeshollen, you can but if you means of connectioning to the server is ssh you're kind of SOL.
[04:53] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, YOu have the live ubuntu right?
[04:53] <mikeshollen> What would you recommend for running a headless server so that I can control it from another device?
[04:53] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: no I am downloading it now.. earlier I had used a usb it got corrupt... so now I am downloading it again from another machine
[04:54] <zzxc> Beldar, doesn't Grub use X though I thought.
[04:54] <tgm4883> mikeshollen, SSH
[04:54] <zzxc> mikeshollen. Yep what tgm4883 did.
[04:54] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, so what do want as of now, there is a script we can look at run from the live ubuntu to see whats on the hd?
[04:54] <mikeshollen> zzxc: What did you mean by I'm SOL?
[04:54] <zykotick9> zzxc: grub does NOT use X
[04:55] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: now when I boot my machine I get the option to chose b/w windows and ubuntu.. when I chose windows I am taken back to the o/s selection page again...when I chose ubuntu.. I get the error Kernel panic - Not syncing: no init found. Try passing init=option to kernel” 12.04 first boot
[04:55] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, Right but that does not really answer what you want, the end goal.
[04:55] <tgm4883> mikeshollen, I'm not sure what he meant by that. As long as you install the SSH server, you should be fine to connect
[04:56] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: end goal is to get thiis issue fixed.. if not by successfully installting ubuntu then atleast  by making sure I save windows and all data..
[04:56] <mikeshollen> If I select OpenSSH during installation of ubuntu server, is that what you are referring to by installing the SSH server?
[04:56] <zzxc> zykotick9, Sorry worried that incorrectly. I meant grub doesn't use X and I'm not getting to Grub so so I doesn't make sense for it to be issue with drivers and X.
[04:56] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, Did you resize windows with the ubuntu install, or remove any partitions from the HD?
[04:56] <zzxc> mikeshollen: Shit out of Luck = SOL.
[04:56] <tgm4883> mikeshollen, yes
[04:56] <mikeshollen> I know, buy why would I be SOL
[04:57] <zykotick9> zzxc: have you tried nomodeset?  that's the 1st thing to try, with boot to black screen issues... best of luck.
[04:57] <xmetal> !nomodeset
[04:57] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: remove any partitions from the HD NO and as for resize windows with the ubuntu install, I didnt get what you meant..
[04:57] <zzxc> mikeshollen: Well if you're running headless you need a way to connect to the machine.
[04:58] <lemonsparrow> pi_: Beldar what is the solution now ?
[04:58] <zzxc> mikeshollen. I mean you could do something weird like tel-net. but unless you have a monitor to attach when things go sideways it dones't make a lot of sense.
[04:58] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, ubuntu has to have unallocated space to install to, so how did you have that? With a choice of install alongside in the ubuntu install gui or reszing windows in windows or ubuntu to have that space.
[04:59] <mikeshollen> I can use my TV if things go poorly
[04:59] <mikeshollen> Do you guys recommend enabling automatic security updates for an LTS server install?
[04:59] <cfhowlett> mikeshollen, I would ...
[04:59] <tgm4883> mikeshollen, depends on the server's job
[05:00] <mikeshollen> The server's job is to host communication servers like murmur and teamspeak
[05:00] <mikeshollen> possibly web hosting at some point
[05:00]  * zykotick9 thinks auto updating is a bad idea...
[05:00] <cfhowlett> zykotick9, even security updates?
[05:00] <tgm4883> mikeshollen, I'm guessing based on your previous questions, that it's a home server or other server for personal use. If it's publically accessible via the internet, then you have 2 options
[05:00] <tgm4883> 1) enable auto-updates for security updates
[05:01] <zzxc> zykotic9, Yeah I'm guessing thats probably the case. Thanks. Do you know how to set up nomodnet on a server install?
[05:01] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: OK.. Ill explain.. I had only one drive in my windows.. C... it had windows and all my data.. while running ubuntu installer I chose the freespace from C drive... so both windows, ubuntu and my data is in one logical drive C
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> is there a way to lock useraccounts icon, to prevent other users to read the userlist?
[05:01] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: yes even those... the admin should know what was just installed, if things go bad... MY OPINION ONLY!
[05:01] <tgm4883> 2) Have a good plan for vetting and applying updates
[05:01] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, This a wubi install?
[05:01] <tgm4883> zykotick9, while I agree with you, lets face it. Most people just do the apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade) and don't look at what is updating
[05:01] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: no bootale USb .
[05:01] <tgm4883> zykotick9, and they do that whenever they remember to
[05:02] <mikeshollen> tgm4883, this will be a public use server. All the communications servers will be password protected but I will be using dynamic DNS to share them with friends and coworkers.
[05:02] <zzxc> cfhowlett: Yeah I have to agree with zykotick9 on that one. Either you can do it once a week manually or have it shut down in time of use.
[05:02] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, YOU can't install ubuntu in windows as you have described.
[05:02] <pi_> lemonsparrow: i have o go my friend, if you want any help, i'll msg you my email
[05:02] <lemonsparrow> pi_: stay for 2 mins
[05:02] <zzxc> tgm4883L if id didn't require sudo leave you could run a chron job during an inactive time.
[05:02] <cfhowlett> zzxc, zykotick9  points taken
[05:03] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: pi_ OK so then I messed it up perhaps by having both in one drive... now what';s the way out ?/
[05:03] <noobsz> damn well that didn't work
[05:03] <noobsz> =()
[05:03] <tgm4883> mikeshollen, let me respond with asking another question. If an update breaks the system and it goes down for awhile, how bad is it
[05:03] <pi_> lemonsparrow: i'll try and return in about an hour if possible, something important has just come up, sorry :(
[05:03] <noobsz> Anyone know how to get su ability back to an account?
[05:03] <lemonsparrow> pi_: ok thanks.. tc
[05:03] <tgm4883> zzxc, it doesn't though. It would be easy enough to cron that
[05:04] <pi_> lemonsparrow: you too mate :) i'll try and come back
[05:04] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, Same drive is fine.
[05:04] <tgm4883> noobsz, add it to the correct group?
[05:04] <mikeshollen> tgm4883, No one would be losing money since it is for non-profit use. The only thing that would be upsetting would be if I was too busy to respond to the issue within a few hours,
[05:04] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: ok so now what's the solution to get this whole thing fixed..
[05:04] <noobsz> tgm4883: I can't
[05:04] <lemonsparrow> pfifo: sure.. :)
[05:04] <tgm4883> noobsz, you need to boot to recovery mode
[05:04] <noobsz> tgm4883: I can't authenticate and it's my only account
[05:04] <mikeshollen> I think I will probably do them manually maybe twice a month.
[05:04] <noobsz> I did
[05:04] <tgm4883> !recovery
[05:04] <zzxc> tgm4883: Mmmm, good point.
[05:04] <noobsz> I did this http://askubuntu.com/questions/266986/authentication-failed-with-the-correct-password-and-now-i-cannot-use-sudo-anymor
[05:05] <noobsz> and it didn't work
[05:05] <zzxc> mikeshollen: just have just set up a cronjob for a time that you won't need to use the machine to do an update.
[05:05] <tgm4883> noobsz, how did you break it
[05:05] <noobsz> I dunno
[05:05] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: ?
[05:05] <noobsz> I haven't done anything
[05:05] <zykotick9> noobsz: 1) did you change the name of your computer by chance?  2) "groups" in a terminal, does it show sudo?
[05:05] <tgm4883> noobsz, now that is a lie
[05:06] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, Get to the live ubuntu desktop and use the bootrepair to run only the bootinfo summary and post the url to it. This will answer the important questions I have to actually help you. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:06] <tgm4883> zykotick9, why would changing the name of a computer break sudo?
[05:06] <noobsz> tgm4883: Nothing out of the ordinary like installing a few things flash plugin was one
[05:06] <mikeshollen> zzxc, that's a good idea. I was going to use cronjob to run TRIM maintenance as well.
[05:06] <tgm4883> noobsz, sorry, I just don't believe you
[05:06] <noobsz> zykotick9: no, I didn't
[05:06] <zykotick9> tgm4883: if your hostname and hosts doesn't match - sudo breaks
[05:07] <zykotick9> noobsz: and are you in the sudo group?
[05:07] <noobsz> tgm4883: It worked up until about 5 minutes ago. I have installed Chromium, flash, htop, nmap, and a handful of others
[05:07] <noobsz> that's it
[05:07] <tgm4883> zykotick9, ah, yea, I thought you just meant changing it (eg properly) would break it
[05:07] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, The bootinfo script generated will tell us what is where, very important info to fix this.
[05:08] <zykotick9> !hostname | tgm4883 fyi ;)
[05:08] <noobsz> yes I am in groups
[05:08] <hamzad> how to  write c programm in linux plz help me i m new on it
[05:08] <zykotick9> noobsz: "in groups", is "sudo" listed when you type "groups"?
[05:08] <noobsz> I haven't changed anything. I did change smb.conf the workgroup to MSHOME but that's it and it was working fine for a while
[05:08] <noobsz> zykotick9: yes
[05:08] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: ok... so  I will do that... I am sought of half way through my download of ubuntu live.. once it's done I will run the script.. will you be around ?
[05:08] <zykotick9> noobsz: ok.
[05:09] <mikeshollen> How do I tell my software servers to automatically launch when the system boots?
[05:09] <noobsz> I tried to reboot in recovery mount /, and chroot /mnt usermod -a -G
[05:09] <noobsz> rebooted didn't work
[05:09] <noobsz> in fact I couldn't chroot in recovery
[05:09] <noobsz> it kept giving me an error saying chroot: usermod no such command or something of that effect
[05:10] <zzxc> Maaan this is irksome.
[05:10] <noobsz> but if I just used usermod by itself, it would give all the switch options
[05:10] <tgm4883> noobsz, that isn't a single command
[05:10] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, I will be here for an hour an 45 min gone for a hlf hour than back.
[05:10] <noobsz> tgm4883: I know, I mean when I tried what was listed in that help article
[05:10] <zykotick9> noobsz: using usermod is a GOOD way to break sudo
[05:10] <tgm4883> !recovery
[05:10] <noobsz> zykotick9: I was using it to try and get it back
[05:10] <tgm4883> noobsz, what help article
[05:10] <noobsz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/266986/authentication-failed-with-the-correct-password-and-now-i-cannot-use-sudo-anymor
[05:11] <noobsz> That
[05:11] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: ok.. so I believe in the boot repain UI itself I can find the option  to generate the bootinfo summary right ?
[05:11] <noobsz> I didn't use usermod ever until just recently
[05:11] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: then shall copy paste it to you ... :) to further analyse the issue.,.
[05:11] <noobsz> and the only reason I used it is because that is what was said to do in order to try and get sudo auth back
[05:11] <zykotick9> noobsz: fyi, when you change any user's groups - you need to log out and back in... (in case you didn't already know)
[05:11] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, Take a look at the link it shows the gui that comes up when you run it there is a bootinfo button there and a repair run just the bootinfo summary.
[05:12] <zzxc> Alright I did some research into and I don't think its nomodeset bc: I'm not loading to grub & the install disk works fine.
[05:12] <noobsz> zykotick9: I rebooted
[05:12] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: yep got it,, thanks a lot..catch up with you with the report in some time.. thanks
[05:12] <zzxc> Am I just missing what nomodeset does?
[05:13] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, No problem that bootinfo summary is a script we used to run till the app maker incorporated in to a full repair app.
[05:13] <noobsz> I have no idea what happened
[05:13] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: oh.. I see
[05:14] <zykotick9> noobsz: do you get an error when you run "sudo foo"?
[05:14] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, easier to generate from a gui, and that app is an good repair toll otherwaise.
[05:14] <zykotick9> noobsz: and foo is just a variable - when you run "sudo apt-get update" type thing?
[05:14] <Beldar> toll*
[05:14] <Beldar> tool* heh
[05:15] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: yep...
[05:15] <noobsz> sudo apt-get update worked
[05:15] <noobsz> I mean it ran it
[05:15] <zykotick9> noobsz: so what's your issue
[05:16] <noobsz> zykotick9: When I was trying to do an install it failed
[05:16] <zykotick9> noobsz: install of what?  how?
[05:18] <Nothing_Much> Does Canonical accept Bitcoins? :)
[05:18] <Beldar> heh you sure, lol
[05:18] <Beldar> yah*
[05:19] <cfhowlett> cash only
[05:20] <Beldar> cough backtrack
[05:23] <MVanDruff> hello for some reason my xubuntu stopped reading my sound card
[05:23] <MVanDruff> any ideas
[05:24] <zykotick9> MVanDruff: from terminal, does "cat /proc/asound/cards" show your card?
[05:25] <MVanDruff> no it doesnt
[05:26] <zykotick9> MVanDruff: that's not good ;)  that means ALSA and thus probably your kernel/module setup is not detecting your card correctly.  do you see it in the output of "lspci" assuming it's a pci/onboard card.
[05:26] <MVanDruff> its not onboard
[05:27] <mikeshollen> What is the difference between using OpenSSH and Puppet for remote administration of my server?
[05:27] <zykotick9> mikeshollen: those are not related things...
[05:27] <MVanDruff> its a soundblaster audigy albeit that it is 11 years old
[05:27] <mikeshollen> Can you help a linux newb by explaining further?
[05:28] <zykotick9> mikeshollen: ssh is secure shell/scp-sftp/other stuff.  Puppet is to control a large number of servers in the same way, like a central control.
[05:29] <mikeshollen> zykotick9, so I would use puppet if I needed to deploy the same actions to a server farm, and I would use ssh for remote controlling a single server?
[05:29] <zykotick9> mikeshollen: i'd imagine you can run puppet over ssh ;)
[05:29] <Private_User> morning guys, I just performed Memtest on my ubuntu desktop which its still busy with and I get a which reads "7  0  00013497cd4 -  308.5MB f34ec102 f34ec102 00001000  1" where each one is under "Tst  Pass  Failing Address    Good  Bad  Err-Bits  Count  Chan" respectively. Question is can it be repaired?
[05:30] <zzxc> OpenSSH lets to connect to a machine as if it was locally there. Run Commands for it, access all the files that the user you're signed up with can.
[05:30] <zykotick9> mikeshollen: you want to use ssh for pretty much everything ;)  it's one of the best tools in *nix land
[05:30] <zzxc> Puppet is for managing varms
[05:30] <zzxc> farms*
[05:30] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: I tried with a bootable usb which had ubunutu... it's sought of starts but then suddenly the screen goes blank.. I can hear the sound of screen loading..
[05:30] <mikeshollen> zykotick9, thanks for clarifying
[05:30] <zzxc> or something like auto scaling groups.
[05:30] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: I assume it's got corrupt and that's whY I am downloading the new windows live again...
[05:30] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: ubuntu live*
[05:30] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, cool
[05:33] <zzxc>  Hey is there any inherint issue with downloading a image on a OSX machine using dd to copy of the system the install it on a machine that doens't use an IFE?
[05:33] <reisio> zzxc: an IFE?
[05:33] <Beldar> Private_User, You can't repair ram.
[05:33] <zzxc> EFI* sorry.
[05:33] <Private_User> Beldar, :(
[05:34] <reisio> zzxc: an Ubuntu image?
[05:34] <Beldar> Private_User, If you have multiple sticks you can remove them one at a time and see if it is just one of them.
[05:34] <zzxc> reisio, yep. Server image. I remeber reading something along those lines a while back. That images from a mac are only useful on a mac.
[05:35] <reisio> zzxc: even if it ended up broken you could fix it
[05:35] <Private_User> Beldar, ok cool I will try that, hopefully it works since each stick is 256MB and I only have 2 of them. So then that is a conclusion that all my internal errors in ubuntu were related to this issue
[05:35] <zzxc> reisio, But I don't remeber the context, or the reasoning. I'm wondering if that might be part of my issues right now.
[05:35] <reisio> zzxc: you could also mount it and copy just the files, and make a partition layout from scratch
[05:36] <Beldar> Private_User, awfully low ram to run ubuntu, hard to say if this was all the errors.
[05:37] <zzxc> reisio, Yeah but then you end up with a drive that doesn't have the bootable flag. And no UEFI manager.
[05:37] <zzxc> *sign* It could also be that the machine's drives are just failing. That would royally suck.
[05:38] <Private_User> ok cool no worries let me check what happens when I remove each RAM. The errors only started like maybe a day or 2 ago and when I try to vew report the apport crashes and the machine hangs. thanks Beldar
[05:39] <mikeshollen> When I first install server LTS, am I correct that I am not running in a root account, but I am a member of sudoers? If this is the case, do I need to create any additional users to protect my software servers within ubuntu server?
[05:39] <Beldar> Private_User, No problem, I wiuld run lubuntu with that ram is all.
[05:39] <zzxc> mikeshollen, Not quite.
[05:40] <zzxc> mikeshollen, root has all privillages. When you run something a sudo you are basically doing a su root.
[05:40] <zzxc> So you're using the root user to make the changes.
[05:41] <mikeshollen> zzxc, but how do I manage users in linux? In windows I wouldn't run my murmur server in the administrators account, I'd create a user account to run it in.  Give them sudoer permission and then lock down the root. You should have to log in to gain access to the account.
[05:45] <mikeshollen> zzxc, so then without doing that, I am in fact in root after the initial install?
[05:46] <zykotick9> mikeshollen: server uses sudo (not root).  typically when you install a service, it adds a user for that server automatically (usually, no idea about murmur)
[05:46] <Beldar> zzxc, Not really a very good description of how ubuntu runs, there is no root account to start with.
[05:47] <mikeshollen> So if there is no root to start, then I am safe to use sudo to do my software server installs, and ubuntu creates the appropriate protection for something like murmur?
[05:47] <zzxc> mikeshollen: Actually I'm thinking of a different Distro. And
[05:47] <zzxc> Beldar, How do you mean there is no user root?
[05:48] <buu> mikeshollen: What do you mean by safe? Sudo temporarily invokes 'root' permissions to do something.
[05:48] <zykotick9> mikeshollen: usually for services, yes.  for murmur - I have no idea...
[05:48] <buu> mikeshollen: Its like the prompt windows added to ask you if you really want to do something, except you tell it before hand =]
[05:48] <zzxc> buu, Additionally sudo bash give you command prompt the ability to run everything as root.
[05:48] <Beldar> zzxc, this is not debian.
[05:48] <buu> zzxc: ubuntu installs with the root user disabled from logging in by default
[05:49] <Beldar> there is no root password for example
[05:50] <hurdorbsd> which is the most updated linux with latest kernel?
[05:50] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, this is ubuntu support do you mean this in that context?
[05:50] <zzxc> Beldar, Right but there is a root user. It just fairly transent. There is no password, it doesn't have the same type of home directory, you can't do a su root.
[05:51] <hurdorbsd> ya
[05:51] <mikeshollen> Forgive my inexperience, but from what it sounds like, I don't really need to create any additional users since root is disabled by default and I can temporarily gain root privileges by password.
[05:51] <hurdorbsd> which kernel is ubuntu 13.10 using?
[05:51] <Beldar> zzxc, ONe can get to a root account yes, it was that your decsiption and syntax is a bit off is all.
[05:51] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, 3.11
[05:52] <hurdorbsd> 3.11? is it stable?
[05:52] <zzxc> buu, Interesting I didn't know that. Actually I've always ssh'ed through the ubuntu user on AWS and created my own user.
[05:52] <buu> mikeshollen: Well, its slightly more secure to create additional users to run services, that way if the service gets exploited it has less permissions than your regular user
[05:52] <buu> mikeshollen: For example it couldn't write to your home directory and files.
[05:52] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, It's released, stable would be a personal opinion in the end really.
[05:52] <zzxc> Beldar, Right, fair enough.
[05:52] <hurdorbsd> which ubuntu is using 3.10 lts kernel ??
[05:52] <buu> mikeshollen: Lots of "major" services, like mail daemons and webservers, will add and run as their own separate user account.
[05:53] <Beldar> !13.10
[05:53] <mikeshollen> buy, so this is unlike windows in that, windows you would log into one user and run all applications within that user, whereas linux you can be logged in as your non-root user, and then run services as different users specific to the service?
[05:53] <buu> mikeshollen: Yes
[05:53] <buu> mikeshollen: In short.
[05:53] <mikeshollen> buu, I understand the concept now. thanks for your patience.
[05:54] <buu> mikeshollen: Most old/large services like apache will allow you to specify a user to run as, for example you tell apache to run as user 'www-data', then you *start* it as root, it performs operations that need root permissions, such as listening on port 80, then changes its user to www-data
[05:54] <hurdorbsd> is there a linux which uses 3.12 kernel?
[05:54] <Beldar> mikeshollen, abstractly ubuntu is like an admin account with a password to execute in windows,
[05:54] <buu> mikeshollen: Note that root can change to any user but any user can't go to root without passwords, obviously.
[05:54] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, The development 14.04 does
[05:55] <hurdorbsd> Oh
[05:55] <buu> mikeshollen: But you can also explicitly run as a different user by using the sudo -u user; command
[05:55] <hurdorbsd> where can I find the development iso?
[05:55] <hurdorbsd> with xfce please
[05:55] <Beldar> mikeshollen, Really more like a standard account in windows where you can use the password for admin functions.
[05:55] <mikeshollen> buy, is there a possibility if I start a service with sudo and have it assigned to a user, that it could break functionality of the service at some point?
[05:56]  * buu glances around the channel
[05:56] <lemonsparrow> Beldar:
[05:56] <buu> Is there someone named buy here?
[05:56] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, yes.
[05:56] <lemonsparrow> downloading live.. :)
[05:56] <mikeshollen> typo
[05:56] <buu> mikeshollen: The question is slightly vague, but as long as you always run it as the same user, it should always work in the same way
[05:57] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, cool
[05:57] <pi_> lemonsparrow: i'm back, do you still need help? :)
[05:57] <buu> That is, if it works the first time, it should work the second time!
[05:57] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: pi_ I am still downliading live.,..
[05:57] <Beldar> pi_, Are you familiar with the bootscript?
[05:57] <pi_> lemonsparrow: ah, ok :)
[05:58] <pi_> Beldar: sorry, nope :(
[05:58] <mikeshollen> buu, my auto correct doesn't like your name :-)  So this would prevent someone from gaining access to system files through one of my voice servers if they found a way to exploit the voice server?
[05:58] <zzxc>  mikeshollen & buu: And you have to also enable a user's ability to do this. It's generally off by default on new uers.
[05:58] <Beldar> pi_, we are going to use it to duagnose the problems lemonsparrow is having, just a heads up.
[05:58] <Beldar> diagnose*
[05:58] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: (Y)
[05:59] <pi_> Beldar: thanks :)
[05:59] <lemonsparrow> Beldar: when I ran windows repair.. the problem shown is no os installed..
[05:59] <Beldar> no problem
[05:59] <pi_> lemonsparrow: which windows do you have?
[05:59] <Beldar> lemonsparrow, Hard to say why the script will tell us whats up.
[06:00] <buu> mikeshollen: Yes, there is two levels here. The first level is that any user account can't access system level files, like the kernel and related configuration files. The second is that running as a *different* user means that they can't *write* (by default) to your personal files.
[06:00] <buu> mikeshollen: Note that they can read most files on the system by default, assuming they have full control over a user account.
[06:01] <wilornel> Hey guys, my laptop's wireless card and audio card/driver is not working properly(not working at all), so I decided to switch from EFI mode to Legacy. Here it says I need to make a new partition with a bios_grub, I can't set one..: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_Legacy_mode
[06:01] <wilornel> are* ... with a bios_grub flag*...
[06:02] <mikeshollen> When I setup murmur, I believe it uses port 64738 for TCP and UDP. Do I simply open that port through NetFilter or do I forward requests on that port to the murmur application? I am currently familiar with the Zone Alarm interface in Windows, but I have no experience with NetFilter.
[06:02] <Beldar> wilornel, THat is an option before installing.
[06:02] <wilornel> Beldar: The flagging?
[06:03] <zzxc> Think 8gb is enough for /, /boot/ and /user for a headless server?
[06:03] <bee_mo> howdy
[06:03] <Beldar> wilornel, EFI mode to Legacy.
[06:03] <zzxc> bee_mo Hey how are you doing?
[06:03] <wilornel> It's weird, because on Ubuntu's website, it says that "If Ubuntu is _installed_ on a GPT disk:..."
[06:03] <wilornel> Beldar, ^
[06:04] <bee_mo> is the login to www.ubuntuone.com different than the errors.ubuntu.com?  I'm getting a openID error.
[06:04] <Beldar> wilornel, It says to use the bootrepair app.
[06:04] <pi_> zzxc: yepp, i have a raspberry pi doing the exact same.
[06:05] <wilornel> Beldar: it says to use Gparted if I use GPT
[06:05] <buu> What the heck is netfilter?
[06:05] <buu> mikeshollen: Is murmur like mumble?
[06:05] <buu> But quieter?
[06:05] <Beldar> wilornel, then use the bootrepiar
[06:05] <mikeshollen> buy, mumble is the client, murmur is the server
[06:05] <buu> oh
[06:05] <mikeshollen> buu darn auto correct
[06:05] <wilornel> Beldar. Again, it says that I need to set up a new partition if use a GPT disk
[06:06] <zzxc> pi_:haha hince the name?
[06:06] <buu> mikeshollen: Is this server behind a separate firewall?
[06:06] <Beldar> wilornel, Part of the problem here is that not many here are familiar with uefi.
[06:06] <Beldar> including myself
[06:06] <wilornel> Beldar: I'm not asking you anything about uefi
[06:06] <Beldar> wilornel, It is part of the scenario however.
[06:06] <wilornel> Beldar: I'm talking about setting a new partition at the start of the disk, and flagging it as bios_grub
[06:06] <hurdorbsd> guys if I try Dev 14.04 which uses 3.12 as kernel .. can I still update to final release of it without reinstalling ?
[06:07] <wilornel> Beldar: It is indeed. But I don't see how UEFI goes in the way of setting a flag on a new partition?
[06:07] <bazhang> !final | hurdorbsd
[06:08] <pi_> zzxc: lol yepp :) i'm ssh'd into the pi, which has an apache server running, with a cloud storage web app, and it all runs effortlessly on 8GB :) what type of server did you have in mind?
[06:08] <mikeshollen> buu, the server is attached to a consumer FIOS router/modem combo from Verizon. They do have a firewall built into the router, but I typically turn on a software firewall in Windows for better security. The Ubuntu Server manual says that NetFilter is a Linux subsystem that manipulates network traffic and is used by most Linux Firewall solutions.
[06:08] <hurdorbsd> ok
[06:08] <hurdorbsd> well guys where can I read about 14.04 and its kernel and other stuff
[06:09] <MrDyne> How do get a program/script/command to run at system boot without having to login each time? I've been Googling and messing with /etc/rc.local all day and I can't get nothing else to work.
[06:09] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, If you install 14.04 the #ubuntu+1 channel is where you would get help.
[06:09] <pi_> hurdorbsd: i'd reckon google might be a good choice... xD
[06:09] <MrDyne> I made sure to chmod a+x /etc/rc.local like all the online guides said to do.
[06:09] <mikeshollen> buu, so does that mean I still need to install a software firewall and it just uses that service?
[06:09] <buu> mikeshollen: I'm going to admit this is areas where I'm not an expert, but I've never felt the need to run a firewall on linux. Just make sure you only have services listening to the outside world that you actually trust
[06:10] <mikeshollen> ok
[06:10] <buu> mikeshollen: use netstat -nlp; and nmap; to see what is actually listening for connections
[06:10] <buu> mikeshollen: To me a firewall is for when you can't control what might be listening on your machine, like a windows box that runs a bunch of default services that listen or something.
[06:11] <mikeshollen> buu, does this mean by default that I 12.04 LTS server doesn't have a firewall installed that I will need to configure for these services?
[06:11] <buu> mikeshollen: I'm fairly certain it does not come with anything like a firewall, yes.
[06:11] <mikeshollen> thanks
[06:12] <buu> mikeshollen: If you run sudo netstat -nlp; all the stuff at the top that has an IP is what is listening and obviously the colon is what port. If it is listening on <IP_ADDRESS> or the publically accessible IP address, that means its a "public" service, anything else can't be reached from the outside.
[06:13] <buu> Here's a question, what the heck does the Foreign Address field mean in that netstat output?
[06:13] <MrDyne> my command to start the team speak server under user server works fine in a root terminal "sudo -u server sh /home/server/Team_Speak/teamspeak3-server_linux-arm64/ts3server_startscript.sh start" but doesn't work in rc.local
[06:13] <bee_mo> is the login to www.ubuntuone.com different than the errors.ubuntu.com?  I'm getting a openID error.
[06:13] <ethang> Can't get my wifi to work on my laptop.  It worked when I updated last year.  any suggestions?
[06:14] <bee_mo> thx btw for any help on this..
[06:14] <Beldar> ethang, Can you identify the wifi from running lspci
[06:14] <wilornel> Beldar
[06:14] <pi_> ethang: did you upgrade a year ago? if so, definately update and see if that fixes it
[06:15] <ethang> pi_:  : no, i just upgrded from DVD install disc.
[06:15] <ethang> yesterday
[06:16] <rypervenche> MrDyne: I made an alias to start TeamViewer for me then put it in a cronjob for @reboot
[06:16] <Beldar> ethang, Some drivers in general don't follow an upgrade
[06:16] <zzxc_> Ouch, that wasn't a fun network lag.
[06:16] <pi_> ethang: ah, i'd still try and apt get update and upgrade, and -219-157.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu
[06:16] <pi_> 04:26 -!- jarray52 [~bigbear@unaffiliated/jarray52] has joined #ubuntu
[06:16] <pi_> 04:26 < pi_> hisujiTMO: how do you do that?
[06:16] <pi_> 04:26 -!- Ergo_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[06:17] <pi_> ethang: sorry, everything wen wrong then :S
[06:18] <pi_> ethang: yeah, i'd run an apt get update and install and if anything pops up asking you to upgrade, don't put it off :)
[06:20] <mikeshollen> If I setup a web server, do I also use SSH to transfer over html files built on my laptop to the server?
[06:20] <rypervenche> mikeshollen: It would be a good way to do it. You could use scp or sftp which uses the SSH protocol.
[06:20] <zzxc> mikeshollen. You would most likely use scp. Its the copy command over shh.
[06:20] <ethang> pi_:upgrde says I'm up to date
[06:21] <zzxc> rypervenche, is sftp installed by default now?
[06:21] <rypervenche> zzxc: It's a part of openssh, so if you have SSH you have it.
[06:21] <pi_> ethang: what was the device again? i can't scroll up :(
[06:22] <ethang> wifi adapter
[06:22] <zzxc> rypervenche, Do you still have to configure it, or is it up by defualt?
[06:22] <ethang> sorry
[06:22] <pi_> ethang: oh yeash haha :)
[06:22] <rypervenche> zzxc: I don't know if the server is installed by default. You might have to start the server and enable it. How you do that depends on the version of Ubuntu you're using.
[06:23] <rypervenche> zzxc: The fine folks here should be able to answer that question for you. I don't use Ubuntu anymore.
[06:23] <SchrodingersScat> zzxc: on desktop versions only the ssh client is installed by default.  installing is just 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' and then you can log into the machine using your login credentials, etc.
[06:24] <pi_> ethang: if i's usb, run lsusb and google your wifi linux drivers on google. i had tha problem once, and came across a few tutorials for my wifi dongle. maybe you'll have similar luck :)
[06:25] <ethang> pi_: unfortunately it's on the pci bus, built-in
[06:25] <Beldar> ethang, Have you identified the wifi hardware yet to the channel, by running lspci in the terminal?
[06:25] <ethang> Beldar: I'll try it again.
[06:26] <Beldar> ethang, If you can't tell just pastebin all the info.
[06:27] <pi_> ethang: oh ok, in tha case, there's a chance there's a model number or something printed on the device itself. you can normally google for new parts by model number, no reason why you couldn't find good insallation instructions :)
[06:27] <ethang> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[06:27] <SchrodingersScat> another victim
[06:27] <Beldar> !broadcom | ethang
[06:28] <pi_> ethang: what ubottu said ;)
[06:33] <ethang> brad[]: pi_: Trying it now...
[06:44] <wilornel> Wow... installing Ubuntu on those new Laptops is sooo much trouble..
[06:45] <tozen> hi all! folks how can i install some pkg from ubuntu livecd? thx
[06:45] <reisio> tozen: same as ever
[06:45] <wilornel> tozen: select "try Ubuntu" when booting
[06:46] <tozen> reisio: apt-get?
[06:46] <reisio> tozen: sure
[06:47] <tozen> reisio: so i dont need to say to the system that i'm offline?
[06:47] <reisio> tozen: hrmm?
[06:47] <tozen> reisio: just sudo apt-get install pkgname?
[06:48] <reisio> tozen: same as ever
[06:48] <tozen> reisio: ok ill try thx!
[06:53] <Cache_Money> What did I do?  http://imgur.com/ncndzk6  I must have changed a setting because now everything looks like an old UI
[06:53] <MrDyne> Yay, I looked up cronjob and the ubuntu wiki said to use gnome-schedule if you want a gui program for setting up crons. That was simple... Team Speak now starts at boot!
[06:54] <Cache_Money> The buttons/tabs in Chrome look weird too  http://imgur.com/UNimJtI
[07:02] <trevnorris> I'm having trouble adding a "perf probe" to a c++ method with colons in the name. anyone have an idea there's a way around this, if I need to update perf or maybe just point me in the right direction?
[07:03] <MrDyne> Thank you to all the users who answer people's questions on here! Just about have my server finished, but I must finish it tomorrow as I have been up for more then 24 hours. Night.
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> trevnorris: maybe the ##programming channel might know?
[07:05] <trevnorris> lotuspsychje: thanks. i'll try that.
[07:17] <wilornel> Hey guys, any idea why the splash screen can play a sound but youtube cannot?
[07:18] <reisio> wilornel: you using any other audio apps?
[07:19] <wilornel> nope mozilla is the only one running
[07:19] <wilornel> firefox*
[07:19] <ecah> wilornel: mute?
[07:19] <wilornel> It's not muter
[07:19] <wilornel> muted*
[07:19] <reisio> wilornel: any other audio apps work (besides splash)?
[07:20] <wilornel> at first, Ubuntu booted in UEFI mode, and there was no sound at all. Then, I made it so that it would boot in Legacy mode, and now it plays a sound in the splash screen....
[07:20] <wilornel> woohoo...
[07:20] <impradeepy> can we make changes in cpu settings for decreasiing heat?
[07:21] <impradeepy> i am using 15
[07:21] <reisio> impradeepy: sometimes
[07:21] <impradeepy> i5 processprs
[07:21] <impradeepy> how?
[07:21] <wilornel> reisio: oh and no, no other apps play sound other than the splash screen
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !info gpar2 > lotuspsychje
[07:23] <picca> how do i use gnome 3 on ubuntu - eg get rid of unity
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !nounity | picca
[07:23] <wilornel> picca: unity3d?
[07:23] <picca> thanks lotuspsychje
[07:25] <wilornel> Alright, I remove i8042.reset from grub boot and sound works again..
[07:25] <wilornel> any idea why?
[07:26] <wilornel> christ! It doesn't work after coming back from hibernate...
[07:26] <wilornel> what the....
[07:27] <eric_> ubuntu
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[07:29] <FloodBot1> eric_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <apm1> is there mate DE in the 13.10 repos ?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !info mate
[07:31] <Beldar> cinnamon is in the repos mate isn't
[07:32] <apm1> so i am forced to use a ppa
[07:32] <apm1> thanks for the info guys
[07:34] <saintcajetan1> I am having some problems, here is what happened. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6467493/
[07:34] <saintcajetan1> Would appreciate any help
[07:35] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, That is really vague.
[07:35] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, Post the issues here with details.
[07:35] <saintcajetan1> yeah I know what can I tell you that might help
[07:35] <saintcajetan1> it is pretty weird...
[07:36] <saintcajetan1> never had has this happened to me, if I can even just boot I can fix it myself but since I can't I don't even know where to start.
[07:37] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, what happens when you try to boot it?
[07:38] <saintcajetan1> I get a black screen
[07:38] <saintcajetan1> and that is it
[07:39] <saintcajetan1> and then it has a blinking underscore _
[07:39] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, You getting the grub menu, and is the a dual boot?
[07:39] <Beldar> this*
[07:39] <saintcajetan1> no it is not a dual boot
[07:39] <saintcajetan1> it is strictly Ubuntu
[07:39] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, Crefully read the questions there was two there.
[07:40] <saintcajetan1> no GRUB menu like I said
[07:40] <saintcajetan1> I only get a black screen after my computer makes the beep noise to boot
[07:41] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, You said nothing about grub, power on and hold the shift key down and see if grub shows.
[07:42] <saintcajetan1> I have already tried that
[07:42] <wilornel> My sound drivers turn off or something when my laptop hibernates...
[07:42] <saintcajetan1> wilornel: What DE you running?
[07:42] <wilornel> saintcajetan1: DE?
[07:43] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, strange seems like messed up file system or broken hardware, you tried a fsck from a live environment.
[07:43] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, no blinking cursor just a black screen?
[07:44] <saintcajetan1> not yet, forgot to do that. I highly doubt it is broken hardware it is pretty brand new. I had shutdown all of a sudden so it is probable that. Let me see what I can be able to do with gparted
[07:44] <aeon-ltd> wilornel: desktop environment
[07:45] <wilornel> saintcajetan1: It's Ubuntu 12.04LTS
[07:45] <saintcajetan1> just a blinking underscore _ at the top left corner
[07:45] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, I would fsck it most likely just for a variable check.
[07:45] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, If we were seeing grub I would suggest nomodeset.
[07:46] <saintcajetan1> appreciate it will try that and see what happens
[07:46] <saintcajetan1> kk
[07:46] <unicornjedi> hello, how would I view the files in my Ubunter server virtual machine? using nautilus in the host manchine?
[07:46] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, You could wait a minute with the blinking underscore and see if you get to a tty as well.
[07:47] <saintcajetan1> tty terminal?
[07:47] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, ctrl-alt-f1
[07:47] <saintcajetan1> kk
[07:48] <saintcajetan1> unicornjedi: try Control+alt+t to get to the terminal
[07:48] <wilornel> Hey guys, any idea why would my sound not work after hibernate?
[07:48] <saintcajetan1> unicornjedi: then type nautilus
[07:48] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, Just to see if it is actually maybe a graphic thing, although you should still see grub, just sort of picking at possibilities.
[07:48] <saintcajetan1> yeah I had installed the graphics successfully in 13.04 but for some reason when it upgraded to 13.10 recently
[07:49] <saintcajetan1> it is not working properly
[07:49] <saintcajetan1> I can't open steam
[07:49] <unicornjedi> saintcajetan1, but ubuntu server doesnot have a gui
[07:49] <Beldar> unicornjedi, You ask min #vbox yet, a shared file is how you share with virtualbox in genral or a ssh as another showed you earlier.
[07:49] <saintcajetan1> I was going to fix that but then I messed up lol
[07:49] <Beldar> in*
[07:49] <Beldar> saintcajetan1, nvidia?
[07:49] <unicornjedi> Beldar, yea Im having trouble with that
[07:50] <saintcajetan1> unicornjedi: yeah I know you should still be able to see nautilus if you try the command line no?
[07:50] <saintcajetan1> Beldar: no I have AMD HD Radeon 7970
[07:50] <superfat> hellp
[07:50] <saintcajetan1> superfat: you might want to tell us what you need help with :P
[07:51] <superfat> hello...
[07:51] <saintcajetan1> brb trying fsck
[07:51] <unicornjedi> saintcajetan1, uh that didnt solve meh problem
[07:51] <Hecter> hi guys, i installed sendmail in my ubuntu, and managed to receive an email using PHP mail() inbox, thankfully not in my spam
[07:51] <Hecter> but looking at my headers, Return-Path<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:51] <Hecter> Received-SPF: none (domain of localhost.com.ph does not designate permitted sender hosts)
[07:51] <superfat> what's your name?
[07:51] <Hecter> still not a designated sender, how do i fix these things?
[07:52] <Hecter> Received: (from www-data@localhost)
[07:53] <Beldar> superfat, This is ubuntu support do you need that?
[07:54] <davegempton> Yes I have a unbutu+ juju problem.
[07:55] <davegempton> Are there any juju experts in the house?
[07:55] <unicornjedi> Beldar, no one is on #vbox... can you help me?
[07:56] <Beldar> davegempton, The channel norm is state the issues for help.
[07:56] <Beldar> unicornjedi, Not really, I don't ssh, and use a shared file if I need to go between a host and vm
[07:57] <Hecter> anyone about sendmail?
[07:58] <unicornjedi> Beldar, okay. How can I share all the folders from my vbox to my host? I want to be able to access the vbox '/' folder
[07:58] <davegempton> I have a juju deployment where machine 0 is running and looking good but machines 1 2 &3 are all showing instance-id: pending. I need to move them past pending and get them recognised.
[07:59] <deweydb> hello, i have an install of 13.10 ubuntu server and i keep loosing control of the session and cannot execute any commands after a couple minutes from a fresh reboot.  I start getting errors like "root@spaceheater:~# sudo   .... bash: /usr/bin/sudo: No such file or directory"
[07:59] <deweydb> or "root@spaceheater:~# whereis sudo  .... whereis: command not found"
[07:59] <deweydb> for pretty much every command
[07:59] <Beldar> unicornjedi, make a folder and open the preferences on the vbox gui where you start it and link to it, this does not read the vm's anything but wht you put in there from it
[08:00] <xmetal> hmm @ how to ignore this guy who is changing nicks every few seconds
[08:01] <Beldar> unicornjedi, I would think the only way you can look around in the vm from the host is with ssh.
[08:01] <mrnoobz> Anyone familiar with identd?
[08:02] <unicornjedi> :(
[08:02] <Beldar> !anyone | mrnoobz
[08:02] <mrnoobz> Hmm... well I can't get oidentd to work.
[08:03] <mrnoobz> I have lowered security on my NAT and forward ports accordingly for 113
[08:03] <mrnoobz> Looking in the NAT logs I can see the connection on 113 and it looks like it's being ignored (not blocked)
[08:04] <mrnoobz> so I am wondering if it's something wrong with my identd
[08:06] <helmut_> hi
[08:07] <Z1efin> I need help with Nvidia Drivers for Ubuntu 13 MCP55 Ethernet
[08:07] <Z1efin> on the Asus P5N32-E SLI Premium motherboard
[08:07] <Z1efin> Nvidia GPU is GeForce8800 GTS
[08:09] <trevnorris> there's a patch to perf that i'd like to apply. can anyone point me to steps to recompile the perf tool?
[08:10] <reisio> trevnorris: apt-src
[08:12] <trevnorris> reisio: thanks. i'm trying that now
[08:27] <trevnorris> reisio: so dpkg -S $(which perf) tells me its linux-tools-common. but when I do an apt-src install linux-tools-common to get a local copy to apply the change it tells me "E: Unable to find a source package for linux-meta"
[08:33] <guest-PJiHC8> zbekistana
[08:45] <wiehan> What is the best/most official way of installing new Nvidia Drivers in ubuntu 13.10. I had to redo my system cause I installed the latest (very latest stable) Nvidia drivers last night from the nvidia website and couldn't even log into recovery mode. So.. please give a hand
[08:46] <reisio> wiehan: using the package manager
[08:47] <wiehan> reisio, guessing "current" package for a GeForce 570
[08:52] <dandedilia> good morning
[08:54] <dandedilia> i have a problem. the awoken icon theme don´t work with my ubuntu 12.04.3.. the icons a se same befor :p
[08:54] <dandedilia> i use the official awoken /ppa
[08:56] <jbone_> jjkk
[08:59] <shady> how to install MTP for LG android phone on ubuntu 13.10 via terminal
[09:02] <shady> how to install MTP for LG android phone on ubuntu 13.10 via terminal?