[11:39] <KKing> i looked and everything seems ok.. its got me stumped
[11:39] <meerkat> capri, I changed the file directly. /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/se
[11:39] <Codex1> Hello
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <meerkat> sorry, meant CaptainKnots
[11:39] <meerkat> jesus
[11:39] <Codex1> All of you use ubuntu here?
[11:39] <KKing> im trying to codex
[11:40] <Soulflare3> Ubuntu and Win7 :)
[11:40] <cfhowlett> codex, safe bet.
[11:40] <Codex1> Soul, same
[11:40] <meerkat> captianyipe,  I changed the file directly. /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/se
[11:40] <Codex1> I Need a good wine for ubuntu
[11:40] <Codex1> I Installed Playonlinux
[11:40] <Codex1> But it's not good
[11:40] <Soulflare3> hmm, one min
[11:40] <Soulflare3> Have you tried Crossover?
[11:41] <Codex1> lol
[11:42] <captianyipe> okay meerkat, sorry but i don't know much about that. I was having some real issues with xmodmap to get my keybindings to stick when i switched two keys around... its always reverted after suspend and restart...
[11:43] <Kureno> Nope lightdm never showed up
[11:43] <Hello> 'm back
[11:43] <Kureno> Waited 4-5 min and it never booted fully
[11:43] <Dr_willis> 'good wine' ? white or red?
[11:43] <Hello> ,
[11:43] <Dr_willis> it all depends on what you are running IN wine...
[11:43] <Soulflare3> lol willis
[11:44] <Hello> Somebody needs help with ubuntu open a dialog with me
[11:44] <Dr_willis> Hello,  its best to ask the questions IN the channel
[11:44] <Dr_willis> dont expect one on one help
[11:44] <Soulflare3> I think he was saying he will answer questions, not sure tho
[11:44] <leocloud> yes you are right
[11:45] <Arisawa> Dr_willis no it never got lightdm screen
[11:46] <Dr_willis> Arisawa,  and you dont even see the grub menu.. so you re not even sure its booting at all.  you do hear it making noises? hd noises
[11:46] <raven_> hello all
[11:47] <Soulflare3> hi raven
[11:47] <Arisawa> I didn't have my headphones on so no
[11:47] <Dr_willis> 'hard drive noises'
[11:47] <Arisawa> no
[11:47] <Dr_willis> unles syou got ssd's ;P
[11:47] <Dr_willis> might beits not even booting the HD at all.
[11:47] <Arisawa> I first saw the screen with the keyboard = human or w/e it means
[11:47] <Arisawa> and after that a wall of text
[11:48] <Arisawa> then it went black
[11:48] <Arisawa> monitor says there is no signal
[11:48] <irandefenceforce> Is it possible to create a usable account in ubuntu?.I created an account with tty2 but i cant login successfully.
[11:49] <Dr_willis> irandefenceforce,  and how did youi make it?
[11:49] <llutz> irandefenceforce: "sudo adduser newusername"
[11:49] <raven_> I have a problem when compiling driver for my wifi card , can somebody help me ?
[11:50] <bekks> !anyonen| raven_
[11:50] <bekks> !anyone| raven_
[11:50] <irandefenceforce> llutz: i did that and i even created a password for it.Trouble is its listed as available accounts on the login screen but once you try logiing in,its doesn't work.I even tried to give the account sudo privilleges.
[11:52] <Arisawa> Dr_willis: any idea?
[11:52] <seedo> hello, I have problems with ubuntu when it comes to recording sound
[11:52] <seedo> The internal mic doesn't work
[11:52] <seedo> Also, the brightness keys, Fn+arrows, also not working
[11:52] <Dr_willis> Arisawa,  live cd works?  sounds to me like its not booting at all. and not showing anything.  or some other weird bug.
[11:52] <seedo> Any idea
[11:52] <jost_> irandefenceforce: could you elaborate on "doesn't work"? What happens?
[11:53] <seedo> Only noise is recorded when we try to record something
[11:53] <captianyipe> seedo: is your mic not working at all or is just VERY quiet?
[11:53] <Arisawa> Dr_willis: Yea it's from a Live usb. I know it works I installed ubuntu on my laptop already
[11:53] <seedo> My laptop is Acer Aspire 4736z
[11:53] <irandefenceforce> jost_:Once you login in(provide the password for the choosen username) you are taken back to the same login screen.I hope that explains it.
[11:54] <Arisawa> Dr_willis: http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png this image come's up then there is a bit of text going all over the screen then the monitor turns off
[11:54] <seedo> Its not a new issue. The mic and brightness issues have been longstanding
[11:54] <seedo> Never fixed.
[11:54] <jost_> irandefenceforce: ok, could you please log in as the other user and try "ls -l ~newuser" on a console window?
[11:54] <seedo> I've searched a lot thoughout the internet but never got a working solution
[11:54] <captianyipe> seedo: how about we try something. Cant hurt. I had a really quiet mic untill i set its volume higher...
[11:55] <captianyipe> seedo: open a terminal and type alsamixer
[11:55] <Arisawa> Dr_willis:  maybe it's because of my video driver (Geoforce GT-9600)
[11:55] <seedo> captianyipe, my mic is not quiet. Its recording just noise.
[11:55] <seedo> okay, i will do
[11:55] <captianyipe> seedo: is it loud noise or quiet noise?
[11:55] <irandefenceforce> jost_:That lists accounts ?
[11:56] <seedo> a mid range volume, not too loud or quiet
[11:56] <captianyipe> seedo: alright, probably dont want to change anything in alsamixer then. press esc to exit it.
[11:56] <jost_> irandefenceforce: no, that should list the other account's home directory if it exists. Could be it was not created (which would explain the failing login)
[11:56] <seedo> ok
[11:57] <irandefenceforce> jost_:My main account is broken bad so i can't access the terminal.
[11:57] <irandefenceforce> But the docs under my  main account are intact.
[11:58] <jost_> irandefenceforce: Where did you run the adduser command?
[11:58] <irandefenceforce> on the tty
[11:59] <jost_> irandefenceforce: You can run it there just as well :)
[12:00] <seedo> captianyipe, any idea?
[12:03] <captianyipe> seedo, after a quick look around the fourms it seems there is lots of people having the same issue. So far no fix im afraid. As for your brightness I actually have a mate who has an acer laptop which brightness doesn't work. Ive had a good go at trying to fix it... but no joy. Anyway. Is it possible to buy a cheap microphone to plug into the audio line in as a quick fix?
[12:03] <seedo> captianyipe, Yea, sadly, Now I need to do that.
[12:03] <seedo> Brightness I was somehow able to adjust.
[12:04] <captianyipe> really? how did you manage to do it?
[12:04] <seedo> I tried one fix, that seems almost okay now.
[12:04] <captianyipe> im quite interested
[12:04] <raven_> Until ubuntu 12.04 i compiled driver for my wifi card (belkin n300 usb key), and blacklisted RTL8192CU. All works fine, but i've installed ubuntu 13.04 and when trying to compile driver, make exit with errors (http://pastebin.com/04AQ44B1)
[12:04] <seedo> I did it long back. Forgot actually, one min, I will dig that up
[12:04] <raven_> Somebody have an idea ?
[12:04] <captianyipe> ah its alright. Im not enough to bother you
[12:05] <captianyipe> worried*
[12:07] <seedo> captianyipe, editing the grub configuration file to add acpi_osi=Linux and acpi_backlight=vendor did the trick
[12:08] <seedo> Do you remember where the file called 'brightness' is situated in ubuntu?
[12:08] <seedo> captianyipe, ?
[12:09] <seedo> captianyipe, i asked you this because
[12:09] <captianyipe> hmm. im not sure where the file brightness is. But cheers for your solution, im keen to give it a go myself.
[12:09] <ackbahr> Hi! How can I ask my Ubuntu computer to ask for  preferred IP address when connecting to WiFi (but still accept another one if unavailable)?
[12:10] <seedo> captianyipe, they key binding for brightness control produced no change in the file named 'brightness'
[12:10] <seedo> that's why the brightness was not changing.
[12:10] <irandefenceforce> My ubuntu cinnamon 12 lts is broken.How do i go about repairing it?
[12:11] <cfhowlett> irandefenceforce, cinnamon isn't supported here.  ask #mint
[12:11] <jost_> seedo: I have two at /etc/acpi/events/asus-brightness-[up|down]
[12:11] <seedo> captianyipe, Although I said it is solved, there is a lil problem, when we try to increase the brightness, it is decreasing, and the vice versa
[12:12] <seedo> Jost_, thank you.
[12:12] <irandefenceforce> cfhowlett:No one home ;)
[12:12] <seedo> jost_, Actually, i didn't mean that one.
[12:12] <seedo> lemme check
[12:13] <jost_> seedo: sorry, those two contain key codes you might just exchange to fix the direction problem
[12:13] <seedo> jost_, kay. Thanks
[12:14] <foofoobar> Hi. Is there a 64bit mac ubuntu image which fits on a 700mb cd-r ?
[12:14] <foofoobar> I don't have any dvd-r :/
[12:14] <seedo> jost_, would you please explain a bit further on what to do to exchange?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> foobarba1,  use a usb flash perhaps? the releases of 12.04 and befoir fit on cd
[12:15] <captianyipe> seedo, do you mean the files located at /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness
[12:15] <Dr_willis> lubuntu Might still fit  on a 700mb cd in later reelases
[12:15] <seedo> captianyipe, Yep. That's it
[12:15] <jrib> foofoobar: you could use a flash drive or grab the minimal installer (and then you can have the packages downloaded during install)
[12:15] <foofoobar> Dr_willis, I can't use a flash, my macbook needs a cd/dvd to install from
[12:15] <captianyipe> when i do a ls on that i get /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness
[12:16] <captianyipe> whoops
[12:16] <jost_> seedo: you could either exchange the event or the action line between the files.
[12:16] <jrib> foofoobar: although maybe minimal won't have the "mac parts"
[12:16] <foofoobar> jrib, minimal installer = server install?
[12:16] <jrib> !minimal | foofoobar
[12:16] <Dr_willis> !minimal
[12:16] <Dr_willis> ;)
[12:16] <Dr_willis> night all
[12:16] <foofoobar> okay, but unlikely to find minimal + mac? :D
[12:16] <seedo> captianyipe, Yea, I have two folders, one named acer_backlight and another one named intel_backlight
[12:17] <yeats> foofoobar: look at the link - there are several variants
[12:17] <foofoobar> I think I have to take the 64-bit PC (amd64, x86_64)
[12:17] <captianyipe> yeah. for me i get apple_backlight and radeon_bl0... they seem to contain a number of what my brightness is set at
[12:17] <seedo> the 'brightness' file in acer_backlight is unaffected by the hotkey press
[12:18] <Arch-rMBP> anyone know of a util that will do a keystroke like crtl-f5 every 30 seconds forever or till i quit? I have found some keystroke recorders but they are count down types
[12:19] <foofoobar> Is just the UI missing in the server installation compared to the "normal" version?
[12:19] <seedo> captianyipe, Those grub options set the backlight control to backlight_intel. It works.
[12:19] <seedo> captianyipe, Funny thing is that, higher the entry, lower the brightness,
[12:20] <captianyipe> seedo, alright. better not to fix whats not really broken.
[12:20] <captianyipe> seedo, yeah that seems to be the case
[12:20] <seedo> captianyipe, That's why I see the reverse behavior when adjusting backlight. :D
[12:20] <yeats> Arch-rMBP: you might look into usage of the 'yes' command
[12:20] <seedo> I'm fine with this. At least I can adjust backlight now.
[12:20] <odraencode> Hey
[12:21] <seedo> What really pisses me off is no recording possibility :(
[12:21] <yeats> Arch-rMBP: don't know how it would emulate 'Ctrl-F5', but it's probably worth a google search ;-)
[12:21] <Arch-rMBP> googling that now..thanks
[12:21] <seedo> Also, I'm currently using 12.10.
[12:21] <captianyipe> seedo: it really is worth moving to 13.04 if you can.
[12:21] <seedo> 13.04 has been catastrophic. For the first time I'm witnessing kernel panics :O
[12:22] <captianyipe> really?
[12:22] <seedo> yea
[12:22] <seedo> My internet connection is via bluetooth
[12:22] <captianyipe> i found 12.10 to be horrible. 13.04 seems fantastic
[12:22] <captianyipe> ah. now you are getting tricky
[12:22] <seedo> be right back
[12:22] <num7> what is the name of the standard terminal emulator on ubuntu 12.04?
[12:22] <captianyipe> num7: gnome-terminal
[12:22] <NETfellow> num7, gnome-terminal
[12:23] <num7> okay thx
	 foofoobar: look at the link - there are several variants < but sadly no mac version, just a powerpc version (i do not have a powerpc)
[12:24] <captianyipe> hey foofoobar, are you running an intel mac?
[12:24] <foofoobar> captianyipe, yes
[12:24] <captianyipe> what gen? im running 13.04 on a non-unibody MBP
[12:24] <captianyipe> i just used the standard i686 install iso
[12:24] <foofoobar> MacBookPro7,1
[12:24] <captianyipe> lol nice. Im MacBookPro2,2
[12:25] <foofoobar> It won't let me install from flash .. I have to use a cd/dvd
[12:25] <foofoobar> but sadly no dvd-r
[12:25] <captianyipe> yeah. I cant get my mac to boot from DVD either
[12:25] <captianyipe> i mean flash
[12:25] <captianyipe> whoops lol. I have to use dvds...
[12:25] <foofoobar> But I have no DVD-R here to burn it :D So I'm looking for a version smaller than 700mb
[12:26] <captianyipe> well that is a bother. Really, the iso has not been able to fit onto a 700mb cd since 12.04
[12:26] <foofoobar> maybe I can get the minimal-amd64-pc installer running
[12:27] <captianyipe> the pc version should work just as fine as the mac iso. are you planning on a dualboot with OSX?
[12:27] <foofoobar> captianyipe, yes
[12:27] <foofoobar> I already have rEFit set up
[12:28] <captianyipe> heh. have fun with that. I have said my goodbyes to OSX... i use ubuntu as my daily driver.
[12:28] <seedo> back
[12:28] <foofoobar> captianyipe, prefer ubuntu over osx?
[12:28] <captianyipe> yes i do actually
[12:28] <hulu> who can help me with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1179367
[12:29] <linuxranger> captainyipe, do you still dual-boot OS X?
[12:29] <seedo> captianyipe, I use a bluetooth connection for internet (Actually I tether internet from phone over bluetooth). Setting up a new connection and accessing internet is fine.
[12:29] <captianyipe> not anymore. I now dualboot ubuntu and kali quite nicely... its great not worrying about having a hybrid mbr =)
[12:29] <seedo> captianyipe, The twist is at when we try to click the already connected connection from the network manager menu
[12:30] <seedo> captianyipe, All of a sudden, kernel panics
[12:30] <arcripex> help need asap...see i uploaded image screenshot here http://postimg.org/image/a31drmqs1/ errors i experience on daily basis
[12:30] <captianyipe> seedo: ah yes, the bluetooth menu got a complete redesign in 13.04. Maybe something went wong there and there a little regression bug?
[12:31] <linuxranger> That's nice. I dual oot ubuntu and lubuntu on my laptop and rin puppy linux from a flash drive. I love how they can all boot up in like 20 seconds even though I do not have money for an SSD :P
[12:31] <seedo> captianyipe, Maybe, how do I confirm it?
[12:31] <captianyipe> linuxranger, do you have a mac?
[12:31] <linuxranger> Nope, PC. Was just asking about OS X out of interest.
[12:32] <captianyipe> seedo: well... all you can do is read the logfile produced when you have a kernal panic.
[12:32] <captianyipe> linuxranger: yeah i love the speed of ubuntu.. ol' Lion was getting a bit slow towards the end
[12:33] <captianyipe> linuxranger: too bad macs cant boot well from usb =(
[12:35] <captianyipe> foofoobar, it is possible to get your mac to boot from usb, i have tried it before... you just need to track down the grub2 efi file and place it on your usb stick with the iso image. If i remember a few german people made a nice one... however when i tried it my mac would only load the kernal and then immeaditly hang. you could give that a go if you are desperate...
[12:36] <xylon_> Hello people...
[12:36] <xylon_> Can ayatana indicators be displayed in applications?
[12:37] <xylon_> For example, if you were developing a messaging app?
[12:37] <arcripex> help need asap...see i uploaded image screenshot here http://postimg.org/image/a31drmqs1/ errors i experience on daily basis
[12:37] <bekks> xylon_: Whats "ayatana"?
[12:37] <seedo_> captianyipe, found one guy mentioning the same problem in reddit
[12:37] <odraencode> I need some help with a wacom tablet, it seems the wheel does nothing.
[12:37] <seedo_> captianyipe, http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1dbq57/ubuntu_1304_kernel_panics_on_disconnecting/
[12:37] <xylon_> bekks: A project
[12:38] <captianyipe> well seedo_, seems you are not alone then.
[12:38] <xylon_> bekks: https://launchpad.net/ayatana
[12:38] <captianyipe> perhaps you could try posting to the ubuntu fourms and see if you get a solution
[12:38] <seedo_> captianyipe, No answer to that question for 20 days.
[12:38] <captianyipe> i'm fresh out of ideas
[12:38] <bekks> xylon_: Then I dont get your initial question.
[12:39] <seedo_> I've never been active on forums. Seems like I have to be.
[12:39] <odraencode> Hey :D
[12:39] <captianyipe> well its worth a shot. there must be other people in the world who tether their phones over blutooth
[12:39] <xylon_> bekks: basically, the Unity panel displays indicators from the Ayatana project, whcih are an alternative to the system tray
[12:40] <odraencode> I have a wacom tablet with a wheel for spinning/zooming/scrolling and it does nothing can someone help?
[12:40] <kwzx_> disconnect
[12:40] <xylon_> bekks: They inlude the SoundMenu, NetworkMenu and other stuff
[12:40] <odraencode> It doesn't see to fire any events in xev either. I wonder if the wheel is working
[12:40] <bekks> xylon_: And?
[12:40] <bekks> xylon_: If you want other icons, you would have to create a theme.
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: So basically, I was wondering if it would be possible to display one of these indicators in another app - like display the Messaging Menu in a Meesaging App like Empathy
[12:41] <odraencode> I have noticed in the tablet configuration window I can bind a key to it but I just want the default behaviour
[12:41] <bekks> xylon_: If you incorporate them as a theme - sure.
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: I DON'T want to create an indicator
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: err what?
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: I think we are misunderstanding each other
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: Or I'm being stupid
[12:42] <bekks> xylon_: You have a bunch of icons, etc. you want to use in a specific application, yes.
[12:42] <bekks> xylon_: ? :)
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !wacom|odraencode,
[12:42] <xylon_> bekks: I think the indicators are more than icons
[12:42] <odraencode> cfhowlett: ?
[12:42] <bekks> xylon_: What else are they, what do you think?
[12:43] <xylon_> bekks: I've seen them integrated in to elementaries Wingpanel
[12:43] <xylon_> bekks: definetely not just icons
[12:43] <bekks> xylon_: And what else ar they?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> odraencode, thought there might be a wacom factoid.  Nope.
[12:44] <xylon_> bekks: Basically they are a whole API to provide a newer and more unified alternative to the system tray
[12:44] <odraencode> !tablet
[12:44] <xylon_> bekks: They do their own drawing!!! It's awesome!!!
[12:44] <odraencode> That is not the tablet I was talking about :/
[12:44] <bekks> xylon_: Then it is some kind of program code.
[12:45] <bekks> xylon_: And you would have to patch your sepcific application to use that code.
[12:45] <xylon_> bekks: I know, that's what I was asking
[12:45] <xylon_> bekks: Is there and Ubuntu dev channel?
[12:45] <irandefenceforce> Is it possible torestore an ubuntu 12 lts to its original state when i installed it?.Something like a restore point on windows?
[12:45] <bekks> xylon_: I guess there is #ubuntu-dev
[12:46] <xylon_> bekks: There's only three guys on there lol
[12:46] <llutz> irandefenceforce: not really, backup and fresh-install would be easier
[12:46] <irandefenceforce> llutz:oh s*
[12:46] <bekks> xylon_: What did you expect? Devs hanging around and waiting for suggestions of users? :P
[12:46] <seedo_> captianyipe, After a bit of research, I found it is a kernel issue.   Delete the file and it'll reset
[12:46] <xylon_> bekks: I hang around on the elementary-dev channel a lot
[12:46] <bekks> xylon_: I dont.
[12:46] <xylon_> bekks: There's loads a peeps always there
[12:46] <chenqisu23> irandefenceforce: hmm
[12:47] <xylon_> bekks: ANYWAY....moving on with life
[12:48] <irandefenceforce> cfhowlett: haven't tried that
[12:48] <jost_> seedo_: The kernel panic when disconnecting bluetooh network?
[12:48] <seedo_> jost_, yes
[12:49] <jost_> seedo_: You wouldn't happen to have a link handy, would you?
[12:49] <seedo_> jost_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:49] <cfhowlett> irandefenceforce, it'll probably be a hidden file and hard to locate.  The nuclear option is to delete all files under /home.  logout/login and you're back in business.  OR!  create a new user.  login to the to virgin account and try your wacom to see if the settings have gone to default.
[12:50] <seedo_> Its not fixed till 3.9.2, one of the post says. :(
[12:51] <irandefenceforce> cfhowlett:i am exploring the option of creating a brand new account on tty
[12:51] <jost_> seedo_: thanks, too bad :(
[12:52] <seedo_> jost_, It's been reported back in the days of quantal, even before raring was released.
[12:52] <amino_> Hey everyone. Is there way to fix overscan issues on an ATI system WITHOUT using the Catalyst driver (because it is so slow on my system compared to the standard driver)?
[12:53] <jiffe1> question, I am using the nomachines nxserver/nxclient to get into my remote machine graphically, I open an xterm and run `amdconfig --odgt` and this command claims X isn't running, any idea what I might be doing wrong?
[12:54] <jost_> seedo_: Humpf, guess I shouldn't have given in to the "update urge"... It's running right now. Wanted to get away from the lightdm issue that prevents me from logging in (gdm works).
[12:54] <Alberto> Hi every body i want to ask you something i am new on ubuntu and some people says me  if i want the newest versions of the programs i have to download  the most resent version of ubuntu and other says  i can install the newest versions whitout problems and others says  if i chose a LTS version i must stay whith the programs version who it have. In sintesys if i want libre office 4 for anything reazon i corrupt or vulnerate my system ubu
[12:54] <Alberto> ntu 12.04
[12:54] <Alberto> ?
[12:54] <bekks> Alberto: 12.04 LTS will receive security fixes until 2017.
[12:55] <seedo_> jost_, what is wrong with lightdm in your case? I'm sorry I didn't bother to check 13.04 too much, 12.10 is just running fine for me. Thank God I didn't just do an update
[12:55] <Alberto> I know that bekks but if i want to install libre office 4 or a newest version of empathy i will have problems or not?
[12:56] <krux> jost_, have you reinstalled lightdm to see if it fixed it ?.. maybe ?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Alberto, and also, sudo apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade will bring in newer packages as will backports
[12:56] <valetabbi> ciao
[12:56] <bekks> Alberto: If you stick with the version from the repos - no. If you use other, foreign repos, maybe yes.
[12:56] <bascherz> Alberto: I just migrated from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS yesterday and have had no issues with anything. Libre Office and Empathy upgraded automatically. I replaced the Unity UI with Gnome. It's a little different, but still pretty much the same as before.
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Alberto, download libre office.  install.  done.  you can get it directly from the LO site.  no issues.
[12:56] <valetabbi> !list
[12:56] <jost_> seedo_: It's dropping me back to the login screen after successfull login. Couldn't find any indication of an error except for "session exit code 1"...
[12:57] <seedo_> jost_, strange, I never had this issue, login's been nice for me. Maybe a laptop specific issue? Which one do you use?
[12:57] <Alberto> wow how too fast
[12:58] <abc> can anyone tell me how to install oracle 11g on ubuntu 13.04?
[12:58] <jost_> krux: apt-get install --reinstall?
[12:59] <jost_> seedo_: dell d830. the issue appeared after yesterday's update
[12:59] <seedo_> jost_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/285693/ubuntu-13-04-possible-lightdm-bug
[12:59] <krux> sudo apt-get purge lightdm
[12:59] <seedo_> jost_, is this the issue?
[12:59] <krux> sudo apt-get install lightdm
[12:59] <bekks> abc: Officially, thats not supported by Oracle.
[13:00] <krux> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[13:00] <seedo_> jost_, sorry, need to go. Otherwise, I'd have loved to look into that.
[13:00] <Alberto> I have downloaded libre office from the official website  and i want to stay whith the LTS, dont want to upgrade versión  because i am happiest whith this version , i dont know how to add libre office 4 to repos, but if i download this from official website and stay  watching from new version i am will still fine rigth?
[13:00] <abc> bekks : u mean i won't be able to install oracle?
[13:00] <Svetlina> Hi
[13:00] <jost_> seedo: nope.
[13:00] <bekks> abc: If you still try to, you will have to run the installer and fix all occuring problems yourself.
[13:01] <bekks> abc: Ubuntu is not a supported distro by Oracle.
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Alberto, yes.  sudo dkpg -i libreoffice.deb will do the trick
[13:01] <cfhowlett> abc, wrong channel
[13:01] <jost_> krux: ok, didn't purge. However, too late now. The update is just prompting me for a reboot. I'll report back
[13:01] <bekks> abc: Supported OS are: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/B28359_01/install.111/b32002/pre_install.htm#CHDFFBIF
[13:01] <krux> kk
[13:02] <bascherz> Alberto: all support for 10.04 LTS ended last month. 12.04 is supported into 2017. I resisted upgrading also, but I am glad I did it. It is a time-consuming process, though.
[13:02] <abc> is 10g supported?
[13:02] <Alberto> Thank you very muc  guys somebody scarry me and say me i must stay whith the version 3 or i can broke ubuntu and i have peace on mind for your answers
[13:03] <bekks> abc: No.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Alberto, best of luck.
[13:03] <abc> which db is supported then?
[13:03] <OerHeks> jost_, your ..Xauthority might be owned by root, remove this file and you can get back in >>  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62084-Can-t-login-into-the-system&s=287bbb93656dee7c53625958a278db98&p=323637&viewfull=1#post323637  this is an Kubuntu answer, applies to ubuntu too
[13:03] <jost_> krux: ok, reboot after install done. +
[13:03] <bascherz> Alberto: You can stay with 10.04 LTS if you like, but some newer apps or updates to them are not going to work.
[13:03] <bekks> abc: Mysql, postgres.
[13:03] <abc> else than mysql and sybase and db2?
[13:03] <jost_> krux: I'll give the purge a try.
[13:03] <Alberto> I know bascherz I use 13.04 for awhile  but i prefer stay whith lts
[13:04] <cfhowlett> Alberto, you COULD stay with 10.04 ... but I wouldn't advise it.  lack of support including security upgrades is not a happy place.
[13:04] <bascherz> Alberto: You can make 12.04 look and feel just like 10.04
[13:04] <jost_> OerHeks: jep, it's owned by root alright.
[13:04] <Alberto> I have 12.04
[13:04] <bekks> abc: Sybase does not support Ubuntu either, not does DB2.
[13:05] <jost_> OerHeks: geez, that was simple. How come gdm doesn'tcare about this?
[13:05] <Alberto> only LTS the other versions scarries me and i think have too much issues
[13:05] <abc> okay if i try to resolve the issues side by side
[13:05] <OerHeks> jost_, it shouldn't, this is a known bug after upgrade
[13:05] <abc> finally, it is installable; right?
[13:05] <bekks> abc: Choose your required RDBMS, then choose the required OS.
[13:05] <Alberto> jejjee i put gnome fallback too
[13:05] <OerHeks> jost_, it happens not to everybody, AFAIK
[13:05] <abc> I do have ubuntu 13.04 os
[13:05] <bascherz> Alberto: Don't be afraid to do the upgrade. Watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTw9e2n25uE
[13:05] <amino_> Hey everyone. Is there way to fix overscan issues on an ATI system WITHOUT using the Catalyst driver (because it is so slow on my system compared to the standard driver)?
[13:05] <bascherz> gotta go
[13:05] <abc> and just want some good RDBMS to develop my applications
[13:06] <bekks> abc: Thats the wqrong approach. Choose the required RDBMS, then choose the OS.
[13:06] <bekks> abc: Or use postgres, since thats a RDBMS, while mysql isnt.
[13:06] <jost_> OerHeks: Do you have the bug's id?
[13:06] <Alberto> I will check bascherz or i will try too install 13.04 in other machine now i am happy whith 12.04 if  i see it works well  i put on my machine  and chec video and thanks to all havenice day
[13:07] <jiffe1> I am using the nomachines nxserver/nxclient to get into my remote ubuntu 12.04 machine graphically, I open an xterm and run `amdconfig --odgt` and this command claims X isn't running, any idea what I might be doing wrong?
[13:07] <valetabbi> ciao
[13:07] <valetabbi> !list
[13:07] <Alberto> Good bye
[13:07] <jost_> OerHeks: Only thing I can remember was doing a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"... Same as tons of times...
[13:07] <abc> hmmm....
[13:07] <abc> thanks bekks
[13:08] <abc> but is oracle finally installable on ubuntu?
[13:08] <bekks> abc: It may be, but it isnt supported. Neither by Oracle, nor by Ubuntu. Doing so, you are on your own.
[13:09] <abc> yepp...I agree!!
[13:09] <abc> there might be some big issues like memory leakage and so....
[13:10] <OerHeks> jost_,  hard to find, all i see is this old one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/871667
[13:10] <bekks> abc: There might be. You will face them then...
[13:10] <abc> yeah right....
[13:10] <bonno> hello all, i have the last ubuntu LTS and i have recently installed teamviewer. but whenever i start the pc it makes a connection with the internet by itself... and now i tried to kill teamviewer , yes it restarts with other PID
[13:10] <morning> On a new laptop, I want to wipe out Windows and set up Ubuntu, with a separate home partition. Regarding the EFI boot partition: "Since Ubuntu 12.04, it is possible to re-use an existing Windows7 EFI partition (without formatting it)." But if you create a new EFI partition, then "Size: minimum 100Mib. 200MiB recommended." My laptop has an existing Windows 8 EFI partition, but it's only 272 MB. Should I use it as is? Increase its size? Or
[13:10] <morning>  erase it and create a new one?
[13:11] <bekks> bonno: Then stop the teamviewer service.
[13:11] <bonno> how?
[13:11] <abc> bekks how to stop the services?
[13:11] <bekks> morning: 100MB < 200MB < 272MB.
[13:11] <bonno> now i see that the connection is closed ... and teamviewer terminated by itself
[13:12] <bekks> bonno: I guess there is something like /etc/init.d/teamviewer
[13:12] <morning> bekks: Duh! Of course! Thank you so much. (Very early in the morning!)
[13:12] <jost_> OerHeks: Hmm, the conditions described don't seem right. The update was something I tried afterwards.
[13:13] <morning> And on a new laptop with 8 MB and an ssd, do I need swap space, or should I just skip it?
[13:13] <morning> sorry: 8 GB
[13:14] <bonno> so do i delete that? or what?
[13:14] <bekks> morning: If you want hibernation, you need 8GB swap.
[13:14] <bekks> bonno: No. You stop it.
[13:14] <bekks> bonno: sudo /etc/init.d/teamviewer stop for instance.
[13:15] <morning> bekks: Understood. Thanks. My experience with Ubuntu (some versions back) is that hibernation tends to be unreliable. And an ssd boots fast. So I guess I can do without the swap.
[13:15] <abc> bekks, I am new to ubuntu....
[13:15] <bekks> morning: For me, hibernation works reliably for years now.
[13:16] <abc> I have heard about wine
[13:16] <bekks> morning: And personally, I always have a swap space. :)
[13:16] <morning> Bekks: Hmmm. Maybe I should give it a go, then.
[13:16] <bonno> now that teamviewer is closed there is nothing like that in /etc/init.d ... how do i make teamviewer not to connect to the internet then?
[13:16] <abc> can the oracle be installed thru wine?
[13:16] <bekks> abc: Which is not a virtualization technology, but an emulation technology.
[13:17] <bekks> bonno: By not using it. Teamviewer - by design - requires a working internet connection to contact the teamviewer hosts to enable you to actually use it.
[13:17] <bekks> abc: No. Forget wine when talking about Oracle.
[13:18] <bekks> abc: Use a supported host operating system, done.
[13:18] <bonno> so you tell me that it will always connect to the internet even though i am not actually launching the program manually ?
[13:18] <bekks> bonno: Correct.
[13:18] <bonno> thank you :) very helpfull :)
[13:19] <bekks> bonno: It registers itself at the teamviewer company hosts, to enable you to actually use it.
[13:19] <georgeyboi> hi , i have a question about using tor. is it ok if i ask it here?
[13:19] <schnitzel-> hi guys...iwas wondering if anyone of you has that asus ux51vz zenbook.....i want to check upton compatibility.
[13:19] <schnitzel-> this machien has some fancy parts...
[13:20] <bonno> i would ask why does it register .. (i mean what are the practical reasons) but i dont want to waste your time :P and maybe you not know//... but thanks a lot :)
[13:22] <jost_> OerHeks: Would appear then, that bug 871667 is not fixed for 12.04
[13:22] <schnitzel-> so...no asus zenbook useres around?
[13:22] <alex_> how i install de youtube in the unity web apps?
[13:22] <alex_> install youtube *
[13:24] <OerHeks> jost_, it happens not often, i have seen it 5 times or zo.
[13:24] <jiffe1> I am using the nomachines nxserver/nxclient to get into my remote ubuntu 12.04 machine graphically, I open an xterm and run `amdconfig --odgt` and this command claims X isn't running, any idea what I might be doing wrong?
[13:25] <OerHeks> jost_, maybe you can confirm  this bug, see if it helps
[13:26] <jiku> hi..
[13:27] <jiku> was trying to install a kubuntu using hard disk installatin
[13:28] <bonno> backtrack linux --> giving machine guns to monkeys since 2006
[13:28] <jiku> all went well except now when rebooting the laptop, it doesn't show me the ubuntu entry in grub
[13:29] <jiku> but only memtest is present.
[13:29] <jiku> can anyone give me the ubuntu entry based on sda1 so that i can modify my grub.cfg and make it up
[13:30] <bonno> pudate grub
[13:30] <bonno> update
[13:31] <jiku> bonno, let me do that.
[13:31] <jiku> the problem is, i don't have a LIVE cd of ubuntu. but only an ISO copied into the hdd.
[13:32] <bonno> make a live cd then
[13:32] <bonno> or live usb
[13:32] <bascherz> or if you are using a VM, just mount the ISO
[13:32] <jost_> OerHeks: done, there's always hope ;) In any event I know where to look (additionally) if this ever happens again. Thanks.
[13:32] <OerHeks> jost_, have fun
[13:33] <jiku> bonno, no. its not a vm.
[13:33] <bonno> can anyone tell me any good tiling manager for ubuntu 12.04 i use xmonad but i want to try other alts
[13:33] <theadmin> bonno: awesome, i3
[13:33] <jiku> not in a situation to burn a live cd or a live usb actually..
[13:33] <jiku> i do have live cd of only a non-ubuntu based distro
[13:34] <jiku> entring in that and running update-grub would do that job ?
[13:34] <bonno> well i cant actually see the passion people have for tiling managers.. :P
[13:34] <bonno> what live cd do you have?
[13:34] <alex_> how can i install youtube in the unity web apps??
[13:35] <jiku> sabayon 8 and debian squeeze
[13:36] <theadmin> jiku: update-grub is a script present only in Ubuntu for all I know, you'd have to use grub-mkconfig on other distributions
[13:36] <bonno> yeah debian squeeze would do the job
[13:37] <bonno> but only update/reinstall grub
[13:37] <jiku> do i have to chroot after entring the LIVE CD environment in squeeze ?
[13:37] <theadmin> jiku: That'd probably be the best option, actually.
[13:37] <theadmin> jiku: Make sure it has the same architecture, though
[13:38] <jiku> theadmin, bonno, lets see..
[13:38] <jiku> trying to do nw.
[13:39] <bonno> i think debian squeeze live cd has the opotion to install grub without chroot... as you go through the installation proccess of the live cd a step is to install grub bootloader
[13:40] <bonno> you wont use the script
[13:40] <bonno> theadmin, i am not talking about the ubuntu script
[13:40] <theadmin> Eh, sure but if we're fixing Ubuntu's grub probably best to do it from Ubuntu, whether a LiveCD or a chroot or whatever
[13:40] <bonno> yeah i agree but he/she said they dont have ubuntu live cd :P
[13:41] <theadmin> bonno: Then chroot to the Ubuntu install they already have and do it from there
[13:42] <bonno> i dont know how he could chroot :P
[13:43] <bonno> theadmin, should i install i3 aloside with xmonad?
[13:43] <theadmin> bonno: Sure, don't see why not. Unlike xmonad, though, i3's config is simple and text-based, it's not really programmable.
[13:43] <theadmin> bonno: Awesome is, though.
[13:45] <bonno> what do you mean it is not programmable?
[13:47] <theadmin> bonno: Well, xmonad's config is written in Haskell, a programming language. You can make it do about anything.
[13:47] <prx> installed a deafult installation of LAMP, where should my .htaccess file be?
[13:48] <somsip> bonno: and awesome uses lua. Ditto on the last point
[13:49] <bonno> now i see the point of all that lua and haskell books my brother has :P
[13:51] <OerHeks> prx i think it should be in /var/www/example.com/.htaccess
[13:54] <madc|SPYnX> help who are you using a virtualbox here? I want to access my Ubuntu guest to my host Win7... i want to test my ubuntu server how i can browse the localhost on my guest (ubuntu) to my host (win7)?
[13:54] <braxen> Is it safe to upgrade Ubuntu server 10.10 to 12.04? Seems shady.
[13:55] <theadmin> braxen: No, because you can't do that.
[13:56] <theadmin> braxen: You can only upgrade 10.10 to 11.04, that to 11.10, and that to 12.04...
[13:56] <theadmin> braxen: Which will take ages but in theory should work
[13:56] <braxen> then i
[13:56] <braxen> i'm screwed then
[13:56] <madc|SPYnX> theadmin, CAN YOU HELP ME
[13:57] <rocky> hello folks
[13:57] <theadmin> madc|SPYnX: Your question makes no sense to me, if you could rephrase, maybe.
[13:57] <rocky> why ubuntu system settings doesn't shows video?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> madc|SPYnX, bridge connection is what you want , but I don't know the specifics
[13:57] <cfhowlett> rocky, NO videos?  details ...
[13:57] <foofoobar> So I'm trying to install ubuntu here as dual boot on my macbook pro with the minimal cd. I installed the base system to /dev/sda4 (ext4, mount point: /) and added a swap /deb/sda5. Then I installed Grub to /dev/sda4. When I rebooted, rEFIt showed me a new icon for linux. I selected it, grub was loaded, I selected "ubuntu" and then I got a black screen.
[13:58] <foofoobar> I then rebooted and now when I select the icon I just get a screen with this linux icon, nothing more
[13:58] <foofoobar> What can I do now?
[13:58] <foofoobar> I already tried opening the rEFIt partition tool, but this tells me that the MBR is in sync, so no need to fix
[13:58] <rocky> cfhowlett, like in we see sound- inside sound we can see all connected hardware, sameway there should be video- should be able to see all hardware connected
[13:59] <rocky> cfhowlett, this way ubuntu labels the connected hardware and other applications use video input can easily the input
[14:00] <madc|SPYnX> cfhowlett, is that it bridged? can i access ubuntu on vbox to my host
[14:00] <cfhowlett> madc|SPYnX, as I understand it, yes
[14:01] <madc|SPYnX> cfhowlett, inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS> bcast <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:02] <foofoobar> Does it make a difference if I install grub to /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda4 ?
[14:02] <madc|SPYnX> cfhowlett, i will changed NAT to Bridged... if i change that.. is it posible to acess internet in tha situation?
[14:03] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: If you have a home network with regular router: yes
[14:03] <rocky> cfhowlett, ?
[14:04] <madc|SPYnX> Joschii, i dot have any router on my... i just want to access my vbox guest to my host
[14:04] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: The VM will appear as just another computer to it.
[14:05] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: how is your VirtualBox host connected to the internet?
[14:05] <madc|SPYnX> via NAT
[14:05] <madc|SPYnX> wait i will take a snapshot on my network
[14:06] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ... not the VM, the machine that runs VirtualBox
[14:06] <madc|SPYnX> im using a USB modem..
[14:07] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, i usb dongle.. a band luxe
[14:08] <Kartagis> !xen
[14:08] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ok, bridged might not work for internet access of the VM then. You could add another network interface and set it to "internal".
[14:09] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, i'll try it so the scenario will be 2 eth on my vm one for NAT and for internal... ryt>
[14:10] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: yes, just remember to not set a default gateway on the second (internal) interface
[14:12] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, what ip should i put on it
[14:14] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: doesn't really matter, as long as it's not already in use. You could use <IP_ADDRESS> for the Virtual Box host and <IP_ADDRESS> for the VM, both with network mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:16] <electron_> hello
[14:16] <mareczek> hello
[14:18] <g_byers> brb
[14:19] <polunchis> hi
[14:21] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, eth1 is inet <IP_ADDRESS> bcast<IP_ADDRESS> for NAT ,,, eth2 is <IP_ADDRESS> bcast ????
[14:22] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: <IP_ADDRESS> in this case. Be sure that 192.168.0.x is not the address space used for your modem connection on the VirtualBox host.
[14:23] <madc|SPYnX> ifconfig eth2 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> ryt?
[14:24] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: sounds about right
[14:26] <kiran_> gh
[14:29] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, how i can access my VM on my host windows 7
[14:30] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: What type of access do you need?
[14:30] <Maple__> Hi, does anyone mind dealing with a clueless me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/297423/getting-more-space-on-wubi
[14:31] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: You should be able to ping the hosts via the internal connection.
[14:31] <madc|SPYnX> direct access to my browser... VM... /var/www (vm) >>>> accessing my firefox (win7
[14:32] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Could you please rephrase?
[14:32] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, i want to access my Vbox machine that is set by <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:33] <OerHeks> Maple__, i would suggest reinstall with more diskspace, maybe this askubuntu answer is any help >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371&highlight=resize2fs%20wubi
[14:33] <Maple__> Hmmmm, thanks. I'll take a look.
[14:33] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, to my windows 7 (host)... the <IP_ADDRESS> is the guest machine that i set
[14:33] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: I known, but what do you mean by "access".
[14:34] <madc|SPYnX> i cant ping <IP_ADDRESS> on my windows 7
[14:35] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: What did you configure on the Network tab for the internal device in virtual box?
[14:35] <milagros> hello
[14:36] <betrayd> hey there
[14:37] <madc|SPYnX> adapter 2 (eth2) internal network...
[14:37] <madc|SPYnX> adapter 1 (eth1) NAT
[14:37] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: This should appear as network device on your Windows host, you'll set an IP address there
[14:40] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, VirtualBox Host-only network Ipv4 address <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:40] <madc|SPYnX> subnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:41] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ok, so either change this to match your linux configuration or (better) set the linux host's address to <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:41] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, i ping that address x.x.56.1 and got prompt...
[14:41] <madc|SPYnX> ok
[14:42] <mithunius> Hello
[14:42] <mithunius> Hello all
[14:43] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, <IP_ADDRESS> bcast <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:44] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: good. You should be able to ping both hosts from the other one
[14:44] <madc|SPYnX> unreachable ;(
[14:45] <rednet> gibts auch ein anfänger chanel
[14:46] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, win7 (ok) ubuntu VM (not good )
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !de|rednet,
[14:46] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: you mean it's possible to ping from win to linux but not the other way around?
[14:54] <madc|SPYnX> http://madc42.net63.net/sdf.jpg
[14:55] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, http://madc42.net63.net/sdf.jpg
[14:55] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, do you got the jpeg?
[14:56] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: nope, black on black
[15:04] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, Win(host) two active network (1) Internet... Bandluxe3.5GSM modem... (2) Vbox Host only ... <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> default gateway// none.... VBOX machine Ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:06] <netman86> I have an unbuntu 10.04LTS machine pulling DHCP from the local server. I recently set a static reservation in the server via mac address, and I can't seem to get the ubuntu box to pull the new IP. Am I missing something?
[15:06] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: Sounds good for the windows part
[15:06] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, still there?
[15:06] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: so "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" from windows works?
[15:07] <madc|SPYnX> nope
[15:07] <madc|SPYnX> destination host unreacbable
[15:07] <madc|SPYnX> then request time out
[15:08] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: yes, had to reboot my system after update to raring
[15:08] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: strange, vm is up and running?
[15:09] <madc|SPYnX> yup
[15:10] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: does "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" work (from windows)
[15:10] <netman86> ah, I forgot to apply the changes for my static reservation. that'd do it...
[15:10] <madc|SPYnX> yup
[15:11] <jost_> what does "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" on the linux machine tell you?
[15:11] <madc|SPYnX> ok
[15:12] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: and .1
[15:12] <jost_> ?
[15:12] <madc|SPYnX> not reachable
[15:12] <madc|SPYnX> wait :) somethinsg is wrong i forgot one thing :D
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, .1 ok
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> :) but in windows not ok
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, should i put a netmask ?
[15:14] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: sure? ;)
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> http://www.mediafire.com/view/?atfztxdy3ygt6f8
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> i mean gateway
[15:16] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: no gateway.
[15:16] <Litecoin_Messiah> hello, trying to get sendmail to work as it seems php's mail function is dependent on it. I am wondering which package is the best to use?
[15:17] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, did you see the picture http://www.mediafire.com/view/?atfztxdy3ygt6f8
[15:17] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ping from windows to linux is working now? (yes to the picture)
[15:17] <Litecoin_Messiah> i just did apt-get install sendmail
[15:18] <madc|SPYnX> no :(
[15:18] <foofoobar123> Hi. I just installed ubuntu-13.04 via the minimal cd. I'm now in the shell and installed unity
[15:19] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, pinging <IP_ADDRESS> is not good...
[15:19] <foofoobar123> When I run "unity" I get the message that the display :0 was not found
[15:19] <foofoobar123> What can I do ?
[15:19] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: that's odd.
[15:20] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: can you copy the output of "arp -n" to a paste?
[15:20] <jost_> !paste|madc|SPYnX
[15:20] <betrayd> foofoobar123: you actually typed unity, a dispy manager should take care of that
[15:21] <betrayd> display*
[15:21] <foofoobar123> betrayd: so something is not working
[15:21] <betrayd> or you're missing the login?
[15:21] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: in windows it might be "arp -s"
[15:21] <foofoobar123> betrayd: there is also the warning: WARNING: no DISPLAY variable set, setting it to :0
[15:22] <foofoobar123> betrayd: missed the login? how should I run a command when I'm not logged in ?
[15:22] <betrayd> the dm takes care of those
[15:22] <betrayd> you can run from a tty
[15:22] <foofoobar123> betrayd: I'm doing this
[15:22] <betrayd> but not for the GUI
[15:22] <foofoobar123> tty1
[15:23] <betrayd> that explains those error messges
[15:23] <foofoobar123> okay
[15:23] <madc|SPYnX1> jost_, lost connection :(
[15:23] <foofoobar123> What should I do?
[15:24] <jost_> madc|SPYnX1: did you get my messages re paste?
[15:25] <betrayd> you need to install a dm (display manager) preferably one you're used to or whatever buntu flavor of the month is
[15:25] <betrayd> that will run unity after you've logged in
[15:25] <madc|SPYnX1> jost_, HWaddress (incomplete
[15:25] <betrayd> there might be a meta package, foofoobar123
[15:26] <betrayd> !dm
[15:26] <jost_> !paste|madc|SPYnX1
[15:27] <madc|SPYnX1> paste.ubuntu.com/5680729
[15:28] <foofoobar123> !dm
[15:28] <foofoobar123> There is nothing about dm
[15:29] <betrayd> yeah idk if they switched, have lxdm on this box
[15:30] <foofoobar123> okay
[15:30] <foofoobar123> so any further tipps?
[15:30] <foofoobar123> I would google, but I dont have a browser here :D
[15:30] <betrayd> oh ok
[15:30] <madc|SPYnX1> jost_,
[15:31] <foofoobar123> SHould I install x-server?
[15:31] <foofoobar123> This is a display manager, right?
[15:31] <jost_> madc|SPYnX1: just a sec
[15:31] <betrayd> foofoobar123: theoretically once you have that dm, instead of calling unity from the command line, it'll be something like lxdm start
[15:31] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:32] <foofoobar123> betrayd: is x-server a dm ?
[15:32] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:32] <betrayd> foofoobar123: don't install yet, somebody might reply with 'aw just get this metapackage'
[15:32] <foofoobar123> okay
[15:32] <foofoobar123> then I'll wait
[15:32] <arun_> please help help
[15:32] <betrayd> foofoobar123:  yup, do some things or post in forum when you have time
[15:32] <foofoobar123> no browser.. :D
[15:33] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Common display managers are Lightdm, GDM and KDM
[15:33] <betrayd> you got to get one a them text browsers
[15:33] <theadmin> foofoobar123: an xserver alone isn't a display manager
[15:33] <foofoobar123> theadmin: so I first have to install one of these and then I can start them how?
[15:33] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:33] <theadmin> foofoobar123: sudo service somethingdm start
[15:34] <foofoobar123> theadmin: and does GDM work with unity?
[15:35] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:35] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:35] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:35] <FloodBot1> arun_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:36] <theadmin> foofoobar123: All of them work with all common desktops, LightDM is the one a regular Ubuntu install comes with
[15:37] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, is this ok now
[15:38] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: could you switch from "internal network" to "host only"?
[15:38] <foofoobar123> theadmin: so starting the lightdm service worked. I got a screen where I had to login. But the screen looked very strange (some colors were not right).
[15:39] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Video driver problem, maybe
[15:39] <foofoobar123> Also giving my login information resulted in a change to a black screen and then I was imediatly thrown back to the login screen
[15:39] <foofoobar123> so I could not login
[15:39] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Then you don't have an actual desktop installed
[15:39] <foofoobar123> theadmin: I installed "unity"
[15:39] <foofoobar123> Or what do you mean
[15:39] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Eh, I'm not sure that would work alone...
[15:40] <foofoobar123> theadmin: what do I also have to install?
[15:40] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Install the ubuntu-desktop package without recommends to get a sanely-working desktop
[15:41] <theadmin> foofoobar123: With recommends if you want ALL the packages in a traditional Ubuntu install, is a bit excessive
[15:41] <foofoobar123> theadmin: how can I exclude recommends?
[15:41] <foofoobar123> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ..?
[15:41] <theadmin> foofoobar123: sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install ubuntu-desktop
[15:43] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, working <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:43] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, win7 ping <IP_ADDRESS> ok
[15:43] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: sounds good :)
[15:44] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, ping <IP_ADDRESS> from linux// no responding :(
[15:44] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: probably due to firewall on the windows host
[15:45] <madc|SPYnX> wew... /var/www works :)
[15:45] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: great, all done? :)
[15:46] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, not so... but it helps :) tnx bro
[15:46] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: you're welcom
[15:46] <jost_> +e
[15:46] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, what is +e??
[15:46] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: forgot it at "welcome"
[15:47] <foofoobar123> theadmin: I installed the ubuntu-desktop now, what should I run to start it now?
[15:47] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, how about lin to win... i already fixing my firewall
[15:48] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, inbound rules.. ACtion = allow
[15:50] <foofoobar123> trying a restart, brb
[15:50] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: madc|SPYnX I don't have win 7 but you should be able to disable the firewall for the internal interface
[15:50] <madc|SPYnX> ok copy.. tnx
[15:51] <madc|SPYnX> pinging already :)
[15:53] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: try http://goo.gl/l0iO1
[15:53] <Guest20159> Hi! Can I install KDE and Cinnamon on my Ubuntu 13.04 install?
[15:54] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ah, missed your post :)
[15:54] <linuxranger> What would you guys say is the best solution for running a local network FTP server on Ubuntu 13.04? I tried vsftpd and I found it almost impossible to get the permissions right. I don't need something that is THAT secure. Just want to share some media files with other PC's in my network.
[15:55] <IdleOne> Guest20159: yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop cinnamon
[15:55] <Guest20159> IdleOne, actually I dont want all the extra apps.. I just want the basics
[15:55] <XLV> has anyone tried zfs on ubuntu? comments on stability/reliability?
[15:56] <Arkhana> XLV: Well, you can always try it yourself...
[15:57] <Arkhana> XLV: What is it, actually?
[15:57] <Guest20159> Anyways to install the desktop only and not the games, kde apps etc
[15:57] <XLV> Arkhana, sure, but troubleshooting with the TB of data i have, isnt the most straightforward or effortless
[15:57] <IdleOne> Guest20159: the apps are what make the DE
[15:57] <XLV> Arkhana, zfs? its a filesystem
[15:57] <Arkhana> Guest20159: You can try another distro
[15:58] <Arkhana> XLV: Ok, but from what OS?
[15:58] <XLV> Arkhana, what you mean from what os? ubuntu
[15:58] <Guest20159> IdleOne, I dont want the Kontact, Konversation, Amarok, K3B, kdegames
[15:59] <Arkhana> XLV: I thought it was a os-specific fs
[15:59] <Guest20159> IdleOne, Arkhana how about kde-plasma-desktop ??
[15:59] <foofoobar123> So I just installed 13.04 on my macbook and it the unity gui works now.
[15:59] <foofoobar123> But I think WLAN is not working, how can I see all networks in range over the terminal?
[16:00] <IdleOne> Guest20159: that should work
[16:00] <XjhK> .
[16:00] <XjhK> hi all
[16:01] <Arkhana> XLV: Burn everything that costs a lot of disk space and what you don't need to DVD's
[16:01] <XjhK> how can I create a my own keyboard-layout on ubuntu 13.04?
[16:01] <Arkhana> XjhK: Really your own? Or just another?
[16:01] <XjhK> I'd like to modify italian layout
[16:01] <XjhK> adding some character.
[16:02] <XjhK> and replacing others.
[16:02] <XLV> Arkhana, hmm.. 2TB on 4GB dvds.. i would need 500 dvds and it would take two weeks and three dvd writers to write them, then the dvds would bork the time i would need to access the damn files a few months ago
[16:02] <Labyr|nth> Hello, I need a hand with a simple time comparison script. I'm not sure if my conditional is running correctly. I've tried string and arithmetic conditions, but my test echo won't run.
[16:02] <Labyr|nth> http://pastebin.com/A6jcFX64
[16:02] <Arkhana> XLV: do you really need that much disk space?
[16:02] <XjhK> how I'd can do that?
[16:03] <XLV> Arkhana, yes, i do, and more
[16:03] <Arkhana> XjhK: Well, start programming
[16:03] <XjhK> ?
[16:03] <Arkhana> XLV: For what?
[16:03] <XLV> Arkhana, what are you, the capacity police?
[16:03] <XjhK> I've to program?
[16:03] <Arkhana> XjhK: No
[16:04] <Arkhana> I'm not the capacity police
[16:04] <XLV> Arkhana, do you have anything to contribute to the question i asked, or you are just mumbling irrelevant shit?
[16:04] <XjhK> I know in a directory there are all layout
[16:04] <XjhK> but I don't know how I can modify those
[16:04] <Arkhana> I'm just saying that it will be kinda hard to modify it
[16:04] <XjhK> does a graphic program exist?
[16:05] <XjhK> (that do that)
[16:05] <Arkhana> Maybe, google for 'keyboard manipulation program'
[16:05] <Guest53351> hey
[16:05] <Guest53351> anyone,,,
[16:05] <XjhK> I downloaded a .tar.gz archive that would do this
[16:05] <Guest53351> Anonymous hackers,, may i speak to you
[16:05] <XjhK> but I'm an ubuntu newbie
[16:05] <XjhK> I don't know how I can install it
[16:06] <Guest53351> i rronno how it works but mmmm
[16:06] <Guest53351> okay i can see that
[16:06] <xylon> Guest53351: I'm anonymous
[16:06] <Guest53351> holly ,,,
[16:06] <Arkhana> XjhK: what's the name of the prog?
[16:06] <xylon> Guest53351: Not a hacker tho
[16:06] <Guest53351> ehmmm mmm,,,,
[16:07] <XjhK> Arkhana: http://code.google.com/p/keyboardlayouteditor/
[16:07] <Guest53351> anonymous... how can we connect to your channel,.. what is the name of it
[16:07] <xylon_> Guest53351: ?
[16:08] <Arkhana> XjhK: Search in the software center
[16:08] <XjhK> I also did it.
[16:08] <XjhK> but I didn't find some
[16:08] <XjhK> *anything
[16:08] <XjhK> I apologize for my bad english XD
[16:09] <Arkhana> XjhK: Wait a sec
[16:09] <XjhK> OK
[16:10] <Guest53351> can i ask a question up here guys ,,for anyone ,,,,where can i find annonymous hacker in some of these channel ..
[16:10] <XLV> you cant
[16:10] <DJones> Guest53351: Thats not really a topic for this channel
[16:10] <XLV> you dont find them
[16:10] <XLV> they find you
[16:10] <xylon> Guest53351: What Da Heck are you trying to do?
[16:11] <xylon> Guest53351: Go to some place like HackThisSite or HellBoundHackers if you want anonymous hackers
[16:11] <mamece2> I only have 512 mb of ram, how long would it take to get past hte casper stage on an old machine
[16:11] <Labyr|nth> Can anyone give a hand with a seemingly simple bash comparison issue?
[16:11] <Guest53351> i'm trying to have some communication
[16:11] <Guest53351> cz i'm a hacker too ,,, i know this is a wrong channel by the way
[16:12] <xylon> Guest53351:  What type of hacker?
[16:12] <Guest53351> this is my dream
[16:12] <DJones> !ot | xylon Guest53351
[16:12] <Guest53351> a white hate ,,
[16:12] <[L][U][C][K][E][> #HackThisSite
[16:12] <xylon> Guest53351:  You only find the type that codes here
[16:12] <XLV> fbi,gov is handling the communication for anonymous lately, try them
[16:12] <xylon> DJones: KK
[16:12] <Guest53351> thanx dude ,,
[16:13] <XjhK> ...
[16:14] <XjhK> Arkhana: are you here?
[16:14] <Arkhana> Xjkh: Yes
[16:15] <XjhK> what did you mean to me?
[16:15] <Arkhana> XjhK: I'm still here
[16:15] <khannnn> hi can someone help me figure out why my sublime text editor isnt launching?
[16:15] <c1n3x2m7> does anyone know how to make windows 7 display chinese characters?
[16:15] <XjhK> yep I understand it
[16:15] <DJones> c1n3x2m7: ##windows for windows questions
[16:15] <XjhK> but you said me "wait"
 : This is UBUNTU
[16:15] <Arkhana> Xjhk: open a terminal session
[16:15] <XjhK> OK
[16:15] <XjhK> then?
[16:16] <Arkhana> XjhK: type 'sudo -i'
[16:16] <XjhK> made
[16:16] <Arkhana> It will ask for your password
[16:16] <XjhK> yep
[16:16] <XjhK> after it?
[16:16] <Arkhana> Apt-get install keyboardlayouteditor
[16:17] <mamece2> how can i boot ignoring SATA slots?
[16:17] <XjhK> it doesn't find packge.
[16:17] <XjhK> *package
[16:17] <Arkhana> XjkH: Well, here goes the hard way
[16:17] <XjhK> why?
[16:18] <Arkhana> XjhK: You have to make a working program from the .tar.gz
[16:18] <Arkhana> I know how it works, so I will explain
[16:18] <XjhK> how?
[16:19] <auronandace> !checkinstall | XjhK
[16:19] <Arkhana> By compiling it
[16:20] <Arkhana> XjhK: open the tar.gz and unpack it
[16:20] <XjhK> made.
[16:21] <Arkhana> Were did you unpack it?
[16:21] <XjhK> no
[16:21] <XjhK> I've just made it.
[16:21] <Arkhana> Made?
[16:21] <XjhK> make
[16:21] <XjhK> (?)
[16:22] <XjhK> so, I unpack it.
[16:22] <XjhK> then?
[16:22] <XjhK> *unpacked
[16:23] <Arkhana> XjhK: what directory?
[16:23] <XjhK> ?
[16:23] <XjhK> in downloads directory
[16:23] <Arkhana> In example: /home/example
[16:23] <XjhK> I didn't move it
[16:23] <Arkhana> What's you username?
[16:24] <XjhK> samul
[16:24] <Arkhana> 'ls /home/samul/Downloads
[16:24] <XjhK> no
[16:24] <XjhK> strangely
[16:24] <XjhK> it's /home/samul
[16:25] <Arkhana> What's in /home/samul?
[16:25] <XjhK> the .tar.gz archive.
[16:25] <Arkhana> Type 'ls /home/samul
[16:25] <Arkhana> What does it say?
[16:26] <XjhK> ?
[16:26] <XjhK> oh, OK
[16:26] <XjhK> I type it.
[16:26] <XjhK> appears a >
[16:27] <Arkhana> Nothing more?
[16:27] <XjhK> no.
[16:27] <XjhK> maybe I would've type home/samul
[16:27] <XjhK> instead home/Samul
[16:28] <XjhK> no.
[16:28] <XjhK> also if I type with little s
[16:28] <XjhK> appears only a >
[16:28] <Arkhana> Hmm
[16:29] <Arkhana> Ok, where did you unpack the .tar.gz? In the Downloads directory?
[16:29] <XjhK> yep
[16:29] <Gibu> test
[16:30] <XjhK> strangely if I search in proprieties it sais /home/samul
[16:30] <Arkhana> Ok, what's the exact name of the folder?
[16:30] <XjhK> instead /home/samul/download
[16:30] <Arkhana> The folder of the package?
[16:30] <XjhK> KeyboardLayoutEditor-3.40.tar.gz
[16:31] <XjhK> unpacked is simply KeyboardLayoutEditor-3.40
[16:31] <Arkhana> Ok
[16:31] <Arkhana> Now get in that folder
[16:32] <XjhK> from terminal?
[16:32] <Arkhana> No
[16:32] <XjhK> OK, fisically
[16:32] <XjhK> *physically
[16:33] <Arkhana> Click on the file 'configure'
[16:33] <XjhK> in unpacked or zipped?
[16:33] <Arkhana> Unpacked
[16:33] <XjhK> OK
[16:34] <XjhK> there is not a configure file
[16:35] <XjhK> so,I need to go. I'll return in a faw minutes.
[16:35] <XjhK> *few
[16:35] <XjhK> please if you can stay here
[16:35] <Arkhana> XjhK: I'm going to quit. I will help you later
[16:35] <XjhK> wait me.
[16:35] <XjhK> Oh, OK.
[16:35] <XLV> has anyone tried zfs on ubuntu? comments on stability/reliability?
[16:35] <XjhK> so, I'll return soon.
[16:35] <XjhK> bye ;)
[16:42] <eq-> Why vertically maximized windows do not snap to screen edges?
[16:42] <Spado> Hi everybody... I need some hints here
[16:43] <xylon> Spado: howdy
[16:44] <Spado> I tired installing Ubuntu on an USB drive, but I get awful graphics performance (ATI 4770) at the point I can't play a youtube video and my magic mouse is not performing well either (not precise, lags)
[16:44] <Spado> sorry ati 5770*
[16:44] <D3finition> Hi
[16:44] <xylon> Spado: Which Ubuntu version?
[16:44] <Spado> 13.04
[16:44] <D3finition> 12.04 lts
[16:45] <XjhK> ...
[16:45] <XjhK> test
[16:45] <XjhK> OK.
[16:45] <xylon> Spado: You may want to try lighter Ubuntu variants, such as Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[16:46] <xylon> Spado: or wait for someone who can help you
[16:46] <xylon> Better than I can
[16:46] <xylon> D3fenition: hello
[16:46] <Spado> I come from the hackintosh world
[16:47] <xylon> Spado: well then, welcome...to the Future!
[16:48] <Spado> and I kinda tried how some operating systems perform just with their hardware... but is it really that ubuntu, the most common linux distro, doesn't perform well with an up-to-date (or almost) hardware like the 5770?
[16:48] <OerHeks> ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are bad supported by the ATI driver.
[16:48] <xylon> Spado: I think it would probably be better on a HDD
[16:49] <xylon> OerHeks its ATI 5xxx
[16:50] <Spado> I can see that, but basically I will never get full performance like I used to get on Windows/Mac OS?
[16:51] <xylon> Spado: Like I said, if you're running off USB Xubuntu or Lubuntu could be a better choice.
[16:51] <Spado> I also tried installing the driver in the software center (without restarting, I don't know if I had to) but it didn't make a difference
[16:52] <ovidiu_C> hi all, is there any chance to recover and ext4 partition mounted as swap accidentaly? the mount command gives me wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6
[16:53] <Spado> Thanks for that suggestion, the matter is: I could install on an HDD, but would that somehow succeed in giving me full video performance? I would think it has more to do with the actual driver rather than where my filesystem is
[16:54] <arun_> guys my login screen doesn't pop and I can't even login , the OS loads for many minutes... I installed the Mac OS X theme so... please help me
[16:55] <arun_> guys my login screen doesn't pop and I can't even login , the OS loads for many minutes... I installed the Mac OS X theme so... please help me
[16:55] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: might want to try this: http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/repair-a-broken-ext4-superblock-in-ubuntu/
[16:56] <baby> ciao a tutti
[16:56] <baby> !list
[16:58] <ovidiu_C> eljoest: thanks but as I see now is not the superblock broken, I think is the partition
[16:58] <jeffszusz> hi guys; I'm trying to change my DNS servers on ubuntu server 13.04 to google's public DNS because whatever i've got now isn't successfully resolving; unfortunately, the instructions i found on askubuntu don't appear to work. I tried editing resolv.conf but that says it will be overwritten, so i tried editing dhclient.conf and restarting but nothing changed.
[16:58] <jeffszusz> anyone point me in a better direction?
[16:59] <seronis> is it possible to just swap out the file explorer?
[16:59] <rohdef> how is nginx able to start after I've run: # sudo service nginx stop # sudo aptitude purge nginx* and restarted my computer
[17:01] <eljoest> jeffszusz: Google a nice howto: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using (search "ubuntu" on the site)
[17:02] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: you mean the whole partition was used as swap and now the partition table is gone?
[17:03] <kinglaaa> Hi. Anyone in here using a laptop with intel/nvidia hybrid graphics? The new nvidia driver 319 is said to support this natively so no need for bumblebee.
[17:03] <ovidiu_C> something like that
[17:03] <ovidiu_C> :))
[17:03] <Spado> anybody on ATI drivers?
[17:04] <jeffszusz> eljoest: I know how the DNS servers work, and googled how to change those settings in 13.04, but the results I found and followed haven't been successful. Some are outdated from 12.04 but I tried them anyway and the only one specifically for 13.04 that I found was to edit dhclient.conf and that didn't get it done.
[17:04] <seronis> jeffszusz: i just click on my wireless icon in the system tray and choose 'edit'.  Then select the network im connected to and in the IPv4 and IPv6 tabs enter the goog DNSs
[17:04] <arun_> guys can anyone hear me
[17:04] <arun_> ??
[17:05] <jeffszusz> seronis: Yeah I do that on my desktop as well, this is a remote server with no GUI
[17:05] <eljoest> jeffszusz: The howto ("Changing DNS server settings on Ubuntu") still works.
[17:05] <arun_> guys can anyone hear me??
[17:05] <arun_> guys can anyone hear me??
[17:05] <kinglaaa> no
[17:06] <kinglaaa> In Space no one hears you scream.
[17:06] <arun_> hahaha
[17:06] <seronis> and in IRC, people /ignore you the second you multi spam stuff
[17:06] <eljoest> jeffszusz: The button text is just "options" instead of "edit"
[17:07] <seronis> eljoest:  no buttons.. no gui
[17:07] <jeffszusz> eljoest: it says to edit /etc/resolv.conf, but resolv.conf has a comment that says not to edit it manually because it will be overwritten
[17:07] <eljoest> jeffszusz: please use the example for "Changing DNS server settings on Ubuntu"
[17:07] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:07] <beak_> greetings, I wish to install ati drivers on my laptop, but when I do a search, there are many pages that discuss this. I do not know which ones to trust
[17:07] <jeffszusz> eljoest: I don't have Network Manager because I'm on Ubuntu Server
[17:08] <ovidiu_C> eljoest: any hope in recovering the data?
[17:09] <beak_> Is there a definitive page that instructs to install ati drivers?
[17:09] <OerHeks> arun_, simple, logout and you have the loginscreen, or go into system settings > user accounts > disable autologin
[17:09] <arun_> OerHeks: no man I can't even login
[17:10] <OerHeks> beak_, goto softwarecenter > software sources > last [tab]  additional drivers to install ati driver
[17:10] <arun_> OerHeks: the thing is that I install a theme
[17:10] <arun_> OerHeks: and it brought the result
[17:10] <jeffszusz> I have followed the instructions for changing DNS using the command-line, editing the "prepend domain-name-servers" directive in dhclient.conf but those settings don't seem to have taken effect
[17:11] <OerHeks> arun_, oke , your ..Xauthority might be owned by root, remove this file and you can get back in >>  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62084-Can-t-login-into-the-system&s=287bbb93656dee7c53625958a278db98&p=323637&viewfull=1#post323637  this is an Kubuntu answer, applies to ubuntu too
[17:11] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: I'm guessing it's still there, otherwise the config shouldn't be overwritten
[17:11] <eljoest> jeffszusz: I'm guessing it's still there, otherwise the config shouldn't be overwritten
[17:12] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: sorry, wrong prefix. recovering the partition table is possible but tricky.
[17:12] <seronis> jeffszusz: after editing the file you'll likely need to restart the network service  (i dont know how)
[17:13] <jeffszusz> seronis: i restarted the whole computer. my dhclient.conf file is still reflecting my changes.
[17:13] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: if you're lucky http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370121 will work
[17:14] <beak_> OerHeks, There is no such option
[17:14] <beak_> I have an ATI HD 3200 graphics card
[17:14] <schnitzel--> i guys. i have an external subwoofer for my notebook. obv it does not work on ubuntu. anybody knows how to fix it?
[17:15] <arun_> OerHeks: hey in this case the login screen is prompted but in mine not
[17:15] <OerHeks> beak_, ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are bad supported by the ATI driver.
[17:16] <seronis> jeffszusz:   google says you should be editing  " /etc/resolv.conf"
[17:16] <zoktar> Hello, im trying to get my network to start up before mounting anything after /, so that if a mount fails, i can still ssh in to the box, how do i change upstart for that?.
[17:16] <OerHeks> beak_, arun_ then i have no clue :-(
[17:16] <OerHeks> arun_,  ^
[17:16] <arun_> OerHeks: yes
[17:16] <arun_> OerHeks: please me man
[17:17] <arun_> OerHeks: please help me man
[17:17] <beak_> My computer does not give me the option to install ati drivers, so I will have to do it manually. I have an ati hd 3200 graphics card, 64 bit system. Which is a good document to follow?
[17:18] <arun_> there is something error to load lmdm i guess
[17:18] <OerHeks> arun_, all i can think of, is boot in recoverymode, ( hold shift @ boot to enter grub2 menu)  and remove the theme.
[17:19] <Spado> I was wondering about ATI drivers too
[17:19] <OerHeks> i am not fond of themes, they can break your system if they do not come from the official repository's
[17:19] <arun_> ok
[17:20] <arun_> How to restore the mdm files
[17:20] <arun_> metacity .blah blah blah
[17:20] <arun_> ??
[17:20] <arun_>  please help me restore the theme
[17:20] <Spado> Could somebody point out if there are ATI drivers for Unity :)?
[17:21] <Carl_> Ohmygawd, Macpup is wayyyyy harder to use than I thought lol
[17:21] <Carl_> Insanely fast though.
[17:21] <Carl_> @spado/arun No idea friends
[17:21] <BluesKaj> !ati | Spado
[17:22] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:22] <seronis> jeffszusz: more specifically the way i understood the instructions was you should edit resolv.conf then 'additionally' edit dhclient.conf before rebooting the service/computer
[17:22] <OerHeks> Spado, check first on that page from BluesKaj if your ati 3200 is supported ( i think not)
[17:23] <Carl_> So when you dual-boot, does it boot both OS's or...?
[17:24] <jeffszusz> seronis: tried editing resolv.conf; reboot -does- rewrite it.
[17:24] <jeffszusz> trying resolv.conf.d/base, will see if that works out
[17:25] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:25] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:25] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:25] <FloodBot1> arun_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <zastaph> how do I find the actual cause for "System program problem detected" dialog ?
[17:26] <schnitzel--> i guys. i have an external subwoofer for my notebook. obv it does not work on ubuntu. anybody knows how to fix it?
[17:26] <seronis> jeffszusz: im not clear minded enough to tell how significant it is.. but maybe  'man resolvconf'  can help too
[17:28] <jeffszusz> seronis: changing resolv.conf.d/base worked wonders
[17:28] <seronis> outstanding =-)
[17:29] <XLV> schnitzel--, why wouldnt it work on ubuntu? its not like its software setting that makes it work, a cut off filter for freqs below a threshold are sent to the subwoofer
[17:29] <jeffszusz> thanks for trying to help :)
[17:30] <XLV> schnitzel--, ah, external... does it use analog sound out, digital, or usb?
[17:30] <seronis> jeffszusz:  im only 2.5 weeks into using xubuntu.  more i try to help others more i'll learn in the process
[17:31] <schnitzel--> XLV, http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/external-subwoofer.jpg
[17:32] <schnitzel--> XLV,  i am not sure...is it digital?
[17:32] <platzhirsch> My music, pictures, etc. are on another hard-drive, which is encrypted. I have modified the .config/user-dirs.dir to point to them, unfortunately, after relogging in, the modifications in .config.user-dirs.dir are resetted to $HOME. It seems not to work if, at startup, the hard-drive is not decrypted, any idea how to approach this?
[17:32] <XLV> schnitzel--, from the picture seems its just analog sound out
[17:33] <XLV> schnitzel--, http://sonicmaster.asus.com/global/n5/features/
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: could make symlinks instead.
[17:33] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: tried that already, same result.. unfotunately
[17:34] <schnitzel-->   XLV  thats it....any ideas how to get it working?
[17:34] <platzhirsch> is mounting the hard drive coupled with attempting to decrypt it?
[17:34] <XLV> schnitzel--, it says in that asus page it involves hardware and software processing
[17:34] <platzhirsch> if I could auto-mount it at start up without getting a prompt to enter the passphrase that would be a viable solution
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: so you deleted the standing folders and made symlinks? The current config of user-dirs.dir will be correct for your needs. I dont see how that can possible yield the same result in any way
[17:35] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: yes, well I am not sure. But it seems the program parsing config-dirs.dir follows the symlink, which is not possible while the drive is unmounted/encrypted
[17:35] <schnitzel--> thanks XLV . i am going to read everything i can find...:D
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: you mount the partition too, not the drive
[17:35] <XLV> schnitzel--, if its some preculiar software used by asus and b&o http://www.icepower.bang-olufsen.com/en/news/news?id=40 then it will take specific linux sypport to make it work
[17:36] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: true
[17:37] <XLV> schnitzel--, http://askubuntu.com/questions/189304/no-sound-from-external-subwoofer-sonic-master-on-an-asus-n76vm
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: id have figured symlinks would be ok. is encryptfs mounted in fstab?
[17:38] <schnitzel--> XLV,  yes. reading that right now. thanks
[17:39] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: no, it seems like not
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: its one way to do it I guess. If the links are marked as 'bad' does the folder get redirected then?
[17:41] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: I will try it with fstab. Redirected to where? I think not, I just receive an error
[17:41] <platzhirsch> the side-effect is, that the Music, Pictures, etc. bookmarks are missing in nautilus
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: do you have the panel set to show?
[17:43] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: Panel set? The upper bar?
[17:43] <platzhirsch> yes..
[17:46] <sanjeb> hello, need help... I started to format my external harddisk and stopped at 0.4% and it stopped to be detected. can someone help pls?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: no, the bookmark style bar on the left.
[17:47] <roasted>  Anybody familiar with the Power Statistics program? I noticed my battery capacity went from 5 hours to 2 hours on full charge, literally, within 3 days. In Power Statistics it says 96% charge, 48% capacity. I'm wondering if that capacity is something that can be changed with a power drain/charge of the battery or if that means my nearly-brand-new battery is already on the downward slope.
[17:47] <sanjeb> cant find it on my ubuntu and windows sees it on device manager and cant do anything with it
[17:47] <beak_> Does any one know the documentation to install ati drivers for ubuntyu 13? Some gave documents for 12, but that is not what I need
[17:47] <sanjeb> want to format it
[17:47] <ziorx> roasted: have a look at powertop
[17:47] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: check the connection inside the system is solid (with system off). Also check you RAM is healthy
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: is the drive usb based?
[17:48] <sanjeb> yes
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: then it should show bookmarks
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: why was that not in your initial question?
[17:49] <roasted> ziorx: installing now.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: why did I have to ask what connectivity the drive has?
[17:49] <ziorx> with powertop you will be able to see which programms consume alot of engery
[17:49] <jaknyn> I have installed an AMD catalyst driver, now my display manager isn't working. How do I uninstall it and use the default drivers?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: is it usb3 or usb2?
[17:50] <sanjeb> usb3
[17:50] <jaknyn> 1
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: can you answer my other questions please
[17:50] <sanjeb> Transcent is its brand
[17:50] <sanjeb> it is well connected
[17:50] <beak_> Is this a reliable document to install AMD drivers? http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> jaknyn: what radeon gpu do you have?
[17:51] <sanjeb> RAM is healthy
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: can you answer my previous questions please
[17:51] <roasted> ziorx: will powertop tell me simply what's using battery, or will it analyze the battery to tell me what kind of health status it has?
[17:51] <sylar_5> sanjeb: what do you mean by "windows sees it in device manager but can't use it"? does it show up in disk manager at all or not?
[17:51] <roasted> ziorx: I'm concerned that the battery itself is like, half shot somehow.
[17:52] <sanjeb> it shows in the disk manager but not in the explorer
[17:52] <ziorx> powertop will list which devices or programms use energy
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: in future. give as many details as possible. we cannot see your system so you have to fill us in, ok?
[17:52] <ziorx> just run it via "sudo powertop"
[17:52] <roasted> ziorx: nice. I'm a little more concerned about the health of the battery though.
[17:52] <jaknyn> ActionParsnip: ATI Radeon HD 6450
[17:52] <ziorx> hm okay
[17:52] <ziorx> Do you use unity
[17:52] <sylar_5> sanjeb: and how does it appear in disk manager?
[17:52] <roasted> ziorx: I know, I'm looking it over now. I just wasn't sure if there was something else I can use powertop for to check the health.
[17:52] <roasted> ziorx: yes
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: what is the output of: car /etc/issue
[17:53] <ziorx> Well I can't help you then, sorry.
[17:53] <sanjeb> ok, sorry im not that much smart on computer problems
[17:53] <roasted> ziorx: why would the DE have anything to do with battery problems
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> jaknyn: hmm, weird. should be ok. you can uninstall the package that gave the driver
[17:53] <sanjeb> "car /etc/issue"?
[17:53] <jaknyn> ActionParsnip: no, I downloaded it off the internet and ran it
[17:53] <sanjeb> oh
[17:53] <jaknyn> it was a catalyst driver
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> sanjeb  cat /etc/issue
[17:53] <sanjeb> 1 sec
[17:53] <sylar_5> sanjeb: which OS are you currently using?
[17:53] <ziorx> you can look into xfce4-power-manager
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: you still knew it was external. it coukd have been pata, sata, scsi, firewire or anything. it kunda makes a difference
[17:54] <sanjeb> UBUNTU 12.04
[17:54] <jaknyn> ActionParsnip: I don't know how to uninstall it. :(
[17:54] <ziorx> this programm will tell you how your battery is doing
[17:54] <ziorx> but I have to leave now
[17:54] <roasted> ziorx: would that power manager simply let me control power usage, or would it give me detailed info on the battery condition
[17:54] <roasted> oh I see
[17:54] <roasted> thanks
[17:54] <ziorx> both
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> jaknyn: not sure using that method, there is a package to install it using ubuntu itself rather than manually downloading
[17:55] <ziorx> xfce4-power-information will provide the information about your batterys life
[17:55] <sylar_5> sanjeb: does the device and/or the partition appear in /dev ?
[17:55] <jaknyn> ...
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: does the system have a make and model?
[17:56] <beak_> It is increasingly clear that non-libre linux has wayy to many problems
[17:56] <sanjeb> when I typed /dev it gave me the following "bash: /dev: Is a directory
[17:56] <sanjeb> "
[17:56] <sylar_5> ls /dev/sd*
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> beak: depends on needs
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: have you tried in a usb 2 port?
[17:56] <sanjeb> yes
[17:57] <beak_> ActionParsnip, I wanted to install an amd/ati driver, and it seems to be like asking to split atoms.
[17:57] <sanjeb> same result
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: does the system have a make and model?
[17:57] <beak_> This is one of the many non-libre issues
[17:57] <sanjeb> make or model?
[17:57] <sylar_5> sanjeb: what does "ls /dev/sd*" return?
[17:58] <ziorx> roasted: I found something else
[17:58] <ziorx> try acpi -i
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> beak_: there is a packaged version for amd drivers. you will need the legacy ppa one for 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx gpus
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: both please
[17:58] <sanjeb> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdd
[17:58] <beak_> ActionParsnip, Where do I find it?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> beak_: do you have one of those GPUs?
[17:59] <roasted> ziorx: thanks for the insight. I don't want to hold you up, but I'll give that a shot right now. :)
[17:59] <beak_> ATI HD 3200
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> beak_: you will find it online then
[17:59] <beak_> ActionParsnip, Oh, you mean just instyall the right stuff?
[17:59] <sanjeb> well, the device is a Transcend StoreJet 25H3
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: is your system a Dell, HP or something like that?
[17:59] <sanjeb> USB 3.0
[17:59] <sanjeb> 500 GB
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: the drive is moot
[17:59] <ziorx> Well im gone now
[17:59] <roasted> ziorx: looks like that does what the Ubuntu Power Statistics program does, because it gave me identical output via terminal with acpi -i..... Battery 0: design capacity 5139 mAh, last full capacity 2515 mAh = 48%
[17:59] <sanjeb> its a Toshiba
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> beak_: yes
[18:00] <beak_> ActionParsnip, Oh thanks!
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: then that is the "make"
[18:00] <sanjeb> NB510 Netbook
[18:00] <sanjeb> oh, oks
[18:00] <sylar_5> sanjeb: how many disks/usb keys/storages are connected to your computer?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: that is the "model" which is what I asked you earlier.....right?
[18:01] <sanjeb> yes
[18:01] <sylar_5> sanjeb: (connected includes also internal drives)
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: toshiba always have dumb acpi implementations
[18:01] <sanjeb> I have only the concerned device connected via USB
[18:02] <sylar_5> ActionParsnip: He was formatting, and aborted it. I guess it's just not well-formatted.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: set the usb to legacy mode, it may help
[18:02] <sanjeb> the windows laptop is a Sony Vaio
[18:02] <sylar_5> sanjeb: so there's no internal drive?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> sylar_5: that wouldnt mater, it is a fresh format which would remive any issue like thtlat
[18:03] <sanjeb> how do I set the usb to legacy mode?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: do you have the latest BIOS?
[18:03] <sanjeb> how do I check for latest BIOS?
[18:04] <sylar_5> sanjeb: did you try two different computers?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: you could always eject the drive and format it in Windows, im guesing you want to use ntfs to allow you to use it in both OSes
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: check latest bios on manufacturers site. you are clearly not too hot with computers so I wouldnt bother
[18:05] <sanjeb> there was a managing software in the device, I used it to format it and stopped it at 0.4%, then it stopped being read on computers
[18:06] <sanjeb> Styler_5 , yes I tried it on an UBUNTU operated computer and on a windows operated computer
[18:06] <Jeruvy> Trying to ping and cannot, and its not working.  Ping works everywhere else except IN to this box.
[18:07] <sylar_5> sanjeb: install and start gparted - does your hdd appear in there (a device of the correct size, not /sda*) ?
[18:08] <Jeruvy> Trying to ping and cannot..  Ping works everywhere else except IN to this box.  What is blocking these pings?  How do I ensure no firewall is running?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: format it in windows is my suggestion
[18:08] <sanjeb> @Styler_5 its an sda, going to install gparted now
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: can you ping IPs or is it names and IPs you cannot ping?
[18:09] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip only outbound works, I cannot ping into it (strickly IP)
[18:10] <sanjeb> I want to format it on windows but I cant find a way to do that, only way I saw the device was through "device manager"
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: ask in ##windows
[18:10] <sanjeb> ok, thanks alot for your help :)
[18:11] <seronis> Jeruvy: nearly every router i've owned blocks incoming pings by default
[18:11] <seronis> check yours
[18:12] <Jeruvy> seronis All pings on network (about 15 machines) work fine except this one box.
[18:13] <seronis> ah.  not router then
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: is the box running any server services?
[18:15] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip its a server
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: ok, what services does it give?
[18:17] <linaro> hi
[18:20] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip ssh sysklogd klogd smbd
[18:20] <pc-moon> i have samsung ativ without kybord , i wanna install ubuntu , but i dont know how i change boot to usb
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: can you ssh to the box?
[18:21] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip yes
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: then i wouldnt worry about ping. sounds like you are blocking icmp
[18:21] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip I need to unblock it :)
[18:22] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip I have 'sudo ufw disable' but that didn't help
[18:22] <yofun> how do i install deb files via termial? the software center is slo
[18:22] <yofun> slow*
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6995/how-to-enable-ufw-firewall-to-allow-icmp-response
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> yofun: sudo dpkg -i filenane.deb
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1431990
[18:27] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip, thanks, didn't help.
[18:29] <beak_> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu no longer supports, even via ppa, ATI Radeon HD 3200. The official suggestion is to downgrade to 12.04 LTS to enable those drivers
[18:30] <beak_> ActionParsnip, typical of non-libre Linux
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> beak_: so you used this: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: you get the idea
[18:32] <beak_> ActionParsnip, This strongly advises agains it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139644
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> well, 12.04 is LTS
[18:33] <beak_> ActionParsnip, I realize this is AMD's fault, not really Ubuntu
[18:34] <SuperLag> Is there a way to rotate only a single page, of a multiple-page PDF?
[18:34] <beak_> ActionParsnip, I had best install Trisquel
[18:34] <beak_> Lesson learned
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> beak_: i think their support is still a bit halfass, i always buy nvidia or intel
[18:35] <SuperLag> Document Viewer/Evince doesn't seem to want to do it. If I rotate one page, it rotates them all. :/
[18:35] <beak_> ActionParsnip, The nouveau group does well with Nvidia
[18:35] <SuperLag> Acrobat Reader rotates them all, as well.
[18:35] <beak_> ActionParsnip, I am impressed with nouveau, I had a desktop with them.  It has an Nvidia Quadro K1000M. I may have issues. Depends on if the BIOS will allow me to lock video to the Intel or the Nvidia, rather than forcing a dynamic switching between the two.
[18:38] <beak_> ActionParsnip, My HP6535b ought to be flawless, but is clearly not
[18:38] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, , well good luck with that
[18:39] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, you'll definitely have issues onb  ubuntu
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> superlag: look into bumblebee
[18:39] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: what makes you say that? I've read that the BIOS/firmware gives you the option to pick one or the other... and if that's the case, then problem solved.
[18:41] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, what you read and reality seem to be 2 different things with dual graphics atm ...some users can make it work with bumble bee and some can't , it's a tossup
[18:42] <cellitux> hello, has someone experiences with ubuntu 12.10 and lenovo u410 touchpad?
[18:43] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip ' iptables -F INPUT' worked.  Pings are working.    Thanks for the help.
[18:44] <mobile> hey
[18:44] <koramati> Hi
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: why would you need ping so bad?
[18:44] <mobile> was wondering if anyone is using irssi?
[18:45] <mobile> It's my first time using a terminal IRC
[18:45] <koramati> is any one know how to creations using Gparted
[18:45] <th0r> !anyone
[18:46] <mobile> haha forgot about ubottu
[18:46] <mobile> it's been a while
[18:46] <koramati> i am unable to create extended  or logical partions using gparted
[18:46] <koramati> is any one have idea
[18:47] <sylar_5> koramati: how many partitions does the disk have?
[18:47] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip, to monitor status.
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> koramati, Take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: i see, id use an actual client app, something like snmp
[18:47] <koramati> ok
[18:51] <dmytro> history
[18:52] <mobile> part
[18:54] <koramati> wilee-nilee : how i can share image please
[18:55] <sylar_5> koramati: upload it to some server and give a link
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | koramati
[18:55] <shock> koramati: use imgur.com
[18:57] <koramati> Hi All,
[18:57] <koramati> http://imgur.com/14TrbP9  -this the link
[18:57] <koramati> could you please have a look and advise me
[18:58] <Ben64> how much ram do you have
[18:58] <sylar_5> koramati: you can only have 4 partitions
[18:59] <koramati> like windows we can't go for multple partions ?
[18:59] <sylar_5> but: an extended partition can hold additional partitions (like /dev/sda2 is holding /dev/sda5
[18:59] <koramati> ok , great .
[18:59] <sylar_5> koramati: your /dev/sda3 partition is completely empty?
[18:59] <koramati> how i can create it
[19:00] <sylar_5> sry meant /dev/sda4
[19:00] <sylar_5> the one you labled "Movies"
[19:00] <koramati> yes ,
[19:00] <sylar_5> koramati: delete it, create an extended partition using all the available space
[19:00] <koramati> can i make this as extended
[19:01] <sylar_5> then you can create partitions inside it
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> koramati, Are you on a live session you have mounted partitions.
[19:01] <Ben64> what
[19:01] <Ben64> you do not need to delete sda4
[19:01] <sylar_5> wilee-nilee: sda4 is not mounted
[19:01] <koramati> actually , i am not getting the option to make extended partion
[19:01] <Ben64> koramati: don't delete sda4 unless you want all that data gone forever
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> sylar_5, Did I say it was?
[19:02] <sylar_5> Ben64: it's empty
[19:02] <Ben64> the problem is that swap is using the extended partition all to itself
[19:02] <koramati> i deleted
[19:02] <sylar_5> wilee-nilee, sry, thought it was a question
[19:02] <Ben64> need to delete that, optionally extend sda1, and make the end of the drive a big extended partition and you can fill it however you wish
[19:03] <koramati> still i am not seeing that option to make extended
[19:03] <Ben64> because as i said, the swap is using the extended partition
[19:03] <Syria> When I boot my ubuntu 12.04 LTS I get GNU grub menu and the first two options lead me to shell with intframes this and it doesn't boot !! please tell me what to do !
[19:03] <koramati> yes
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> koramati, You want the partitions in numerical order from left to right, what ever you do here you want to end with this being the case.
[19:04] <Ben64> that matters not wilee-nilee
[19:05] <sylar_5> koramati: do you have a second computer which you could use to chat?
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, It does as far as basic adjustments in gparted.
[19:06] <koramati> i am looking how i can create multiple partions with  unalocated  space
[19:06] <sylar_5> because i'd suggest to boot into gparted live cd, to convert the swap to be not in an extended partition
[19:06] <koramati> currently only one machine
[19:06] <sylar_5> koramati: you can only have 4 partitions, and max. 1 of them can be extended
[19:07] <koramati> ok
[19:07] <sylar_5> (and partitions inside the extended partition don't count to this)
[19:07] <Ben64> koramati: i've already explained
[19:07] <koramati> so from here i can't rt
[19:07] <koramati> need to go from boot
[19:08] <Ben64> what?
[19:08] <koramati> to create extended partion
[19:08] <Ben64> you're not making sense
[19:09] <koramati> Ben64 : i got the answer
[19:09] <sylar_5> your /dev/sda2 is an extended partition, /dev/sda5 is a swap partition inside /dev/sda2j
[19:10] <koramati> yes
[19:10] <sylar_5> you need to change this so that at this place there is only one primary swap partition
[19:10] <sylar_5> then, you can create an extended partition at the unallocated place (using all space there is)
[19:10] <sylar_5> and then you can create partitions inside this extended partition
[19:10] <koramati> yes , correct
[19:12] <koramati> now i can't delete .need to change this from boot
[19:12] <koramati> i am rt
[19:12] <litropy> Hi, all. Running sudo apt-get update results in 404 errors from server; see paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681439/
[19:13] <sylar_5> koramati: you should boot from a live cd
[19:13] <koramati> Many Thanks all
[19:13] <koramati> wonderful advises
[19:14] <pero_p_> could anyone here help me about maxima?
[19:14] <Ben64> koramati: you just have to turn off swap... its not hard
[19:14] <koramati> ok
[19:14] <koramati> let me try now
[19:14] <litropy> And full paste of command result here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681449/
[19:15] <sylar_5> koramati: yes, sorry, forgot you can turn it off without rebooting... -.-
[19:16] <koramati> i turned it off
[19:16] <sylar_5> (gotta go)
[19:17] <carcinogen75> Hello guys. Is there any tool for linux to monitor adding lines to file and process these lines?
[19:18] <koramati> Ben64 ,Sylar_5 :what is the nexe step
[19:18] <AaronMT> !dapper
[19:19] <shock> koramati: Sylar_5 left
[19:19] <koramati> yes , sorry
[19:20] <koramati> Ben64 :still not able to delete extended partition
[19:20] <koramati> any suggestion
[19:21] <bean> koramati, use fdisk and delete it?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> koramati  boot from a live cd or usb, then delete it
[19:22] <koramati> got some thing .let me try and let you know
[19:23] <th0r> koramati, did you delete the logical partition?
[19:24] <SymeonT> hi! any nice program for screencast in Ubuntu? thnx
[19:24] <Mavrik> kazaam probably
[19:24] <beak_> How do I install the opensource version of ati-radeon hd 3200 drivers?
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> info kazam
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> !info kazam
[19:26] <koramati> I did it
[19:26] <koramati> thanks a lot
[19:28] <koramati> and last one  , what is the best video editor for ubuntu
[19:28] <litropy> Alrighty. So why would I suddenly be getting 404 errors upon apt-get update?
[19:29] <litropy> From Ubuntu's servers no less?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> koramati  pitivi, openshot
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> litropy  because you have !eol sources you don't know of
[19:29] <litropy> Here's a terminal paste: for ya: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681449/
[19:30] <koramati> MonkeyDust :Many thanks
[19:30] <litropy> !eol
[19:30] <OerHeks> beak_, you posted this url to actionparsnip a while ago, does answer #5 work ? >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139644 else there is no solution for ATI 3xxx cards, too old.
[19:31] <OerHeks> beak_, ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are no longer supported by the ATI driver.
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> litropy  for a start, i see lucid in that list
[19:32] <beak_> OerHeks, I want the opensource drivers, not proprietary
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !lucid | litropy
[19:32] <OerHeks> beak_, read your own post, answer #5
[19:33] <blocky_> hi, I'm trying to install 12.04 to a brand new intel SSD and I am seeing the error ubi-partmon failed with exit code 10
[19:33] <beak_> Ubuntiu does not have it
[19:34] <blocky_> I originally told ubiquity to use the entire disk, but when that failed I have tried manually partitioning from gparted
[19:34] <blocky_> it says to look in syslog but I don't see any useful status messages there
[19:35] <blocky_> my console is getting a lot of messages like this: EXT2-fs (loop1): error: ext2_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 98390
[19:36] <zjace> Um...I have a question. I have a ThinkPad Twist with ubuntu on it and the touch screen cant scroll and it there are some other issues with it. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:36] <litropy> MonkeyDust, I see. Unfortunately, I can't edit my sources.plist at the moment, because for some reason my filesystem is in read-only mode. I'm actually SSH'ed in. Upon boot, all I get is an underscore after the Ubuntu logo with the dots shows. Dmesg has some interesting things, like init: failsafe-x main process (1422) terminated with status 1
[19:36] <rlcbm> see this i need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2146749
[19:40] <linelevel> Hi guys. I'd like to install 12.04 LTS  with full disk encryption (not just /home) on my hard drive, but install the boot loader on a USB stick. I can't find any guides for the latter (booting from USB). Can anyone point me to a resource on how to do this? I then plan to install Windows in a separate partition so that without the USB stick, the computer will autoboot into Windows.
[19:41] <litropy> Dmesg paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681536/
[19:43] <Husar> Hi, how safe is encryption buid in installation process in Ubuntu?
[19:48] <XxxTilllYxxX> How does one join another channel?
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> XxxTilllYxxX  /join #channel
[19:48] <PhatDong> Does anyone know much about stepper motor drivers?
[19:48] <bekks> XxxTilllYxxX: "/join #anotherchannel"
[19:48] <PhatDong> and cnc machines in general with Ubuntu
[19:48] <XxxTilllYxxX> Thanks
[19:50] <PhatDong> hello?
[19:50] <PhatDong> Ubuntu bot, where art thou?
[19:52] <PhatDong> Hello?
[19:52] <PhatDong> is anyone there?
[20:00] <tucemiux> anyone here ever installed an nvidia card in ubuntu?  Should I be using nvidia's drivers downloaded from their website or should I use the ubutu repo?  Which one works better?
[20:01] <jrib> !nvidia | tucemiux
[20:01] <litropy> Man. Now I'm getting kernel panics during boot.
[20:02] <tucemiux> jrib, i guess my real question is,  is there a difference from installing a video card driver donwloaded from nvidia.com as opposed to using what's in the repos?
[20:03] <jrib> tucemiux: using the repositories means you get automatic updates through the package manager
[20:03] <jrib> tucemiux: the drivers are the same drivers, they're just packaged in the repositories
[20:03] <tucemiux> jrib, true but were talking about manufacturer, closed source sofware,  not open source
[20:03] <jrib> tucemiux: yes...
[20:06] <jtt> hello :) i've got a little bug here : on xubuntu my mouse don't allow me to clic outside the current windows (my clic aren't recorded)
[20:07] <tucemiux> now im in text mode, anyone know how to get back the GUI ?o.O
[20:07] <th0r> tucemiux, startx ?
[20:07] <jrib> tucemiux: why are you in text mode...?
[20:07] <jtt> but my touchpad does (after i unplugged the usb)
[20:08] <sylar_5> tucemiux: strg+alt+F7 or F8?
[20:08] <tucemiux> jrib, looks like my xserver is hoseed
[20:08] <jrib> tucemiux: you installed the nvidia drivers?  Using the repositories?
[20:08] <sylar_5> jtt: logout, login?
[20:09] <lars> I'm having trouble installing Kubuntu 12.04
[20:09] <lars> Is there an expert here who can help me?
[20:09] <sylar_5> lars: please tell your exact problem
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> !ask | lars
[20:09] <tucemiux> jrib, no - i attepmted to install the binary driver - wanted to know if it matter from which source i installed before I kept troubleshooting the binary drivers - now i just want to get a gui so i can use add/remove
[20:09] <lars> ok
[20:10] <lars> The installation process was going well until I got to the Partition stage...
[20:10] <jrib> tucemiux: you can't use add/remove if you didn't install through the repositories, you'd have to consult nvidia's documentation on how to remove them
[20:10] <jtt> sylar_5 already tried... i rebooted too, but it don't change anything
[20:10] <lars> The stage called "Prepare Partitions" caused me a lot of problems....
[20:11] <sylar_5> lars: just ask your question
[20:11] <lars> The computer did not recognize any devices
[20:11] <lars> So there was not recognizable root directory
[20:12] <lars> And the computer told me we cannot proceed with the installation without a root directory
[20:12] <Droide3> hi
[20:12] <linelevel> Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS so that it boots from a USB drive rather than my hard drive. To clarify, I plan to install Ubuntu on my hard drive, I just want it to boot from USB (using grub2). Can anyone help?
[20:12] <Droide3> was haltet ihr davon
[20:12] <lars> I'm doing the same thing
[20:12] <Droide3> ach falsch
[20:13] <lars> I'm trying to install 12.04 with my USB jump flash
[20:13] <sylar_5> lars: do you have access to a console?
[20:13] <lars> I already created a bootable flash drive with an ISO of Kubuntu 12.04 on it
[20:13] <lars> Yes, of course
[20:13] <sylar_5> lars: what does ls /dev/sd* tell you?
[20:13] <lars> I'm using 11.04 right now
[20:14] <sylar_5> oh, sry
[20:14] <sylar_5> lars: i meant: a console on the booted live cd/key
[20:14] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Running 10.04LTS - a Gateway NV76R notebook; want to at least disable touchpad while typing; can't figure out how.
[20:15] <sylar_5> linelevel: ask your question: what's your problem?
[20:15] <lars> Oh shit
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> lars  mind your language
[20:15] <lars> I can't seem to access my Konsole
[20:15] <gmachine_24> hey hey none of that
[20:15] <IdleOne> !language | lars
[20:15] <lars> woops
[20:15] <Jack> hello
[20:16] <lars> ls /dev/sed*   is that it?
[20:16] <sylar_5> gmachine_24: synaptics driver?
[20:16] <sylar_5> lars: it lists all divices in /dev which start with sd
[20:16] <sylar_5> lars: ls /dev/sd*
[20:16] <Basil1x1> 12.04 here.  How can I upgrade to 13.04 without reinstalling everything?
[20:16] <sylar_5> not sed*
[20:16] <gmachine_24> sylar_5: actually, I've no clue
[20:17] <linelevel> sylar_5: That is my question. I don't know where to start. I've googled but can't find a guide anywhere to installing Ubuntu such that it is installed on the hard drive but boots from USB.
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> Basil1x1  sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:17] <lars> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sda6
[20:18] <Basil1x1> That's it?  I am now extremely annoyed with myself.
[20:18] <lars> I unplugged the jump drive
[20:18] <sylar_5> lars: this is the machine you want to install the system to, executed from a booted live key?
[20:18] <Basil1x1> Thanks, and TTFN
[20:18] <lars> A booted jump drive
[20:19] <lars> I want to install it onto this computer using my jump drive
[20:19] <sylar_5> lars: boot from the key and then call ls /dev/sd*
[20:20] <sylar_5> lars: it'll tell which disks have been detected
[20:20] <lars> I also created a bootable DVD, but I have doubts that is works, because it's not a true ISO image, because of a minor problem I had when I burned with with Nero on Windows
[20:20] <sylar_5> linelevel: so you need a complete guide to install? just burn a live cd, boot from it and run the installer
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> lars  you have !md5 check the iso
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> lars  you have to !md5 check the iso
[20:21] <linelevel> sylar_5: To clarify: I want to install Ubuntu (with a LUKS LVM for encryption) on my internal hdd, and grub2 on a USB stick. Then I plan to install Windows (as a decoy) so that if someone boots my laptop without the USB stick, it will autoboot straight into Windows.
[20:21] <linelevel> sylar_5: I've got the LUKS LVM figured out, just not the booting via grub2 from USB.
[20:21] <Alina-malina> Hello all! What is the best file(image) storage or imagehosting server for ubuntu with option to use images in  website without glitches and images always appear?
[20:22] <lars> I don't understand what you want me to do, Sylar.  I can't boot this current 11.04 system from my bootbable jump drive
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> Alina-malina  ubuntuone can be used that way
[20:22] <Alina-malina> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[20:22] <sylar_5> linelevel: never used manually edited grub2, sry
[20:23] <lars> You want me to just connect the bootable USB flash drive and then do the ls command again?
[20:23] <Arkhana> linelevel: I can help you
[20:23] <foofoobar123> Hi, I just installed i3 via the repositories, how can i start it now?
[20:23] <sylar_5> lars: no. so you are stuck at where your system should boot from the jump drive?
[20:24] <basil1x> Well... that didn't work.  sudo do-release-upgrade returns 'no new ... found'
[20:24] <lars> Actually, my system froze a few times when I tried to boot from the jump pdrive
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> basil1x  try adding -d
[20:24] <lars> but when I tried it on the 5th or 6th time, it worked
[20:25] <lars> it booted from the jump drive
[20:25] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Running 10.04LTS - a Gateway NV76R notebook; want to at least disable touchpad while typing; can't figure out how.
[20:25] <lars> and the installation fprocesss worked
[20:25] <lars> ...until I got to the Partitiion stage
[20:25] <basil1x> That worked.  TY
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> lars, Grub can be set up on a usb and boot OS's, used to be more hits on the web before all the usb loaders become available. You could just user supergrub.
[20:25] <lars> that's when it couldnt recognize any of my devices
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> lars  partitioning is the hardest part, when trying to get familiar with linux
[20:25] <foofoobar123> any hints?
[20:26] <sylar_5> lars: do you have a 2nd machine you could use for irc?
[20:26] <ur00pl> hi
[20:26] <lars> Yes, but my Windows computer has malware on it, so I can't go online
[20:27] <ur00pl> after i did aticonfig, the desktop loads but there is no unity or anyhting like that
[20:27] <lars> I can't do anything at the "Prepare Partitions" stage
[20:27] <lars> There are no recognizable devices to partition
[20:28] <sylar_5> lars: at this point, I need to know what ls /dev/sd* says. when it's booted from the usb drive.
[20:28] <lars> But I had inserted the bootable DVD, too
[20:29] <lars> That might explain why the installation was working, after my previous unsuccessful attempt with the flash drive alone
[20:29] <sylar_5> lars: I need to know what is in your /dev folder while you have booted from the live system
[20:29] <EmmEight> Hello!
[20:30] <sylar_5> ur00pl: what do you see instead?
[20:31] <lars> At the bottom the computer said "Device for Boot Loader Installation:  /dev/sda"
[20:31] <foofoobar123> I just installed i3 via the repositories, how can i start it now?
[20:31] <lars> When I was at the "Prepare Partitions" screen
[20:31] <ur00pl> sylar_5, nothing
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> lars  /dev/sda is the HDD, sda1 sda2 etc are its partitions
[20:32] <ur00pl> sylar_5, hitting alt+clt  t works though
[20:32] <lars> ok, that's good, right?
[20:32] <ur00pl> sylar_5, this is after i did aticonfig
[20:32] <sylar_5> lars: i need to know the exact contents of the folder, (all elements starting with sd)
[20:32] <lars> I just showed them to you
[20:32] <sylar_5> ur00pl: access console, run startx
[20:33] <lars> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sda6
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> lars  in a terminal, type sudo apt-get instal pastebinit;sudo fdisk -l;parted -l|pastebinit
[20:33] <sylar_5> lars: /dev does not contain files on your hard drive. it contains your devices. this means its contents change when you boot a different system
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> lars  in a terminal, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit;sudo fdisk -l;parted -l|pastebinit    <-- correction
[20:34] <lars> ok
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> lars  and paste the url here
[20:36] <johnjohn1011> ubuntu 13.04 is definitely much faster than 12.04
[20:36] <lars> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[20:36] <lars> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
[20:36] <lars> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[20:36] <lars> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[20:36] <lars> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[20:36] <FloodBot1> lars: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <lars> Disk identifier: 0x91119111
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> lars  no, type parted -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[20:40] <we6jbo> ' to produce this quit message.
[20:40] <lars> Monkey, that command does not work
[20:40] <therms> add additional hard drive (that prior to removal used to be part of an mdadm array) to ubuntu server, server "freezes" at black screen once past grub.  Remove hard drive server boots fine.
[20:40] <therms> tips?
[20:41] <therms> using 12.10
[20:41] <lars> Can I just install Windows onto this computer and create the partitions with FAT32 in order to install Kubuntu 12.04?
[20:41] <bekks> lars: No.
[20:42] <bekks> lars: Ubuntu isnt installable on FAT filesystems.
[20:42] <sylar_5> lars: then post the output of parted -l and fdisk -l to any text-posting platform (pastebin, etherpad, ...) and give us a link
[20:42] <Arkhana> bekks: I thought it is
[20:42] <bekks> Arkhana: It never was, and never will be :)
[20:43] <lars> I dont know how to do that, Sylar
[20:43] <testusr> I've got this problem and noe noe wants to answer me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2102093
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> lars  what command does not work?
[20:43] <lars> parted -l|pastebinit        does not work  Monkey
[20:44] <sylar_5> lars: http://pastebin.com/
[20:44] <sylar_5> lars: copy-paste the output of these 2 commands ( "sudo parted -l" "sudo fdisk -l" )
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> lars  simply parted -l and paste the outcome to pastenbinit
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> it hard to explain something simple :)
[20:45] <lars> Ok, sylar, I shall do that....
[20:45] <seronis> MonkeyDust: didnt know about the 'pastebinit' script.  thank you  (things like this really need mentioned in the installer splash screens)
[20:47] <seronis> now how do i find the location of that script?
[20:47] <seronis> (to upgrade it)
[20:48] <ThinkT510> seronis: its a program you install with apt-get
[20:48] <seronis> well it was preinstalled with xubuntu then. figure something that trivial would be a script, not a program
[20:49] <ThinkT510> !info pastebinit | seronis
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> seronis  pastebinit is a command
[20:49] <lars> I posted them both, Sylar
[20:49] <James_Epp> I cannot seem to find an answer to this situation: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2146732
[20:49] <seronis> that doesnt tell me where its located on my system =-)
[20:49] <sylar_5> lars we need the url
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> seronis  type which pastebinit
[20:49] <lars> What url?
[20:50] <lars> You mean where I posted them?
[20:50] <seronis> i tried 'find'.   'which' seems like an odd search name but ok
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> seronis  see what 'which' does
[20:50] <sylar_5> lars: yes
[20:50] <sylar_5> lars: after submitting, you should have received a url like http://pastebin.com/p1q6XpTJ
[20:51] <seronis> just did.  it worked perfectly.  just was a non obvious command name for a new xubuntu user
[20:51] <sylar_5> lars: with a different id after the /
[20:51] <gmachine_24> OK, well, not that anyone asked but the way to disable the touchpad while typing is by using syndaemon; man syndaemon for the details.
[20:51] <dogbert2> can anyone explain this: http://pastebin.com/RQkGGK2B
[20:51] <lars> http://pastebin.com/z2DysLh4
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> seronis  there's also 'whereis'
[20:52] <lars> http://pastebin.com/sP8qbVg4
[20:52] <zjace> Does anyone know how to fix the scroll on a touch screen in ubuntu?
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> !touch | zjace
[20:53] <zjace> Um its a laptop.,,
[20:53] <lars> damn, I just connected my jump drive
[20:53] <zjace> With a touch screen...does that still apply
[20:53] <lars> I thought my jump drive was already connected
[20:54] <sylar_5> MonkeyDust: you continue with lars, I don't know what info you wanted to get from this.
[20:54] <lars> Is that a problem, the fact that I did all that stuff without my jump drive connected?
[20:54] <zjace> MonkeyDust: Its a laptop with a touch screen. Does that still apply?
[20:55] <ThinkT510> lars: jump drives makes me think of hyperspace travel, did you mean usb sticks
[20:55] <sylar_5> lars: no
[20:55] <sylar_5> lars: you just listed all partitions connected to the pc at the moment you typed the command
[20:55] <lars> Ok, good
[20:56] <blocky_> trying to install 12.04 from a usb drive onto a new SSD and running into this: Input/output error while determining whether /dev/sda1 is mounted.
[20:56] <blocky_> anyone know what could be causing this?
[20:56] <dogbert2> can anyone explain this: http://pastebin.com/RQkGGK2B
[20:57] <cnf> can anyone tell me which pam file i need to edit to affect only local console login?
[20:57] <sylar_5> lars: I don't know what MonkeyDust was expecting to see from this. to me, the problem only appears after you have booted from the live medium
[20:58] <abc> can any1 tell me how to install oracle 10g on ubuntu 13.04?
[20:59] <lars> Yes, I can't access my partitions at the "Prepare Partitions" stage of the installation process
[20:59] <mikkle> Question about NAS: If you buy a two bay enclosure, can you use it with just ONE drive?
[21:00] <lars> May be a I need to format my hard drive and create the partitions before I start installing 12.04?
[21:00] <arlosmar> hello. is it possible to use ctr tab to change tabs in thunar please?
[21:00] <sylar_5> lars: that's why it'd be great if we could talk while you have booted from cd
[21:00] <abc> i want to install oracle on ubuntu13.04
[21:00] <sylar_5> lars: that's what "prepare partitions" is supposed to do
[21:00] <dogbert2> hmmmmph
[21:01] <sylar_5> lars: do you have a smartphone or tablet?
[21:01] <lars> I need to install Service Pack 3 and run virus scans before my Windows computer can go online
[21:01] <cnf> pam always gives me a headache :P
[21:01] <mong> abc: ubuntu is not a supported installation os for oracle 10g
[21:01] <lars> I have a cell phone
[21:02] <sylar_5> lars: a smartphone?
[21:02]  * dogbert2 goes Ho, Ha, Ha, Guard, Turn, Parry, Dodge, Spin, Ha, Thrust!
[21:02] <lars> No, a cell phone with texting
[21:02] <abc> mong...then what's d solution, mate?
[21:02] <lars> But I rarely text on my cell phone, It's too old school for that
[21:02] <mong> abc: you can ask oracle support, or you can run oracle linux (or any other supported distro)
[21:02] <lars> it's an old cell phone
[21:02] <sylar_5> lars: then boot from cd, start the browser, and use this: http://webchat.freenode.net/
[21:03] <sylar_5> lars: i'm asking for something that could connect to irc ;)
[21:03] <abc> mong : do i need to change ma os then?
[21:03] <abc> which I can't
[21:03] <mong> abc: not if you use a virtual machine :)
[21:03] <lars> Oh yeah
[21:03] <cnf> hmm, i want to configure my system to only ask for passwords when you log in from a local console
[21:03] <cnf> just need to get my head around pam to do it
[21:03] <lars> I could try the test instead of the installation, right?
[21:03] <abc> mong :can you explain a bit for me....
[21:04] <bekks> abc: I told you everything about it today, already.
[21:04] <abc> if i can use a virtual machine on top of ubuntu?
[21:04] <abc> bekks u neva mentioned the virtual machine thing
[21:04] <sylar_5> lars: when you boot from the live cd, it should ask you "install or try"
[21:04] <bekks> abc: you can just run a vm with a supported OS.
[21:04] <lars> Yes, so I choose "Try" instead of install, right?
[21:04] <sylar_5> lars: use try. from there, you should be able to start a web browser
[21:04]  * dogbert2 does all his testing in VM's
[21:05] <lars> ok, I'll do that
[21:05] <sylar_5> and then you can access the webchat
[21:05] <sylar_5> and join this channel again
[21:05] <lars> ok, sylar.....
[21:05] <abc> means ubuntu will be having it's own virtual machine flavor....right?
[21:05] <xing> 我撫摸自己!!
[21:05] <bekks> abc: no.
[21:05] <mong> abc: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[21:06] <xorred> anyone got any idea why in ANY folder LS produces <IP_ADDRESS>.00443-<IP_ADDRESS>.60279?
[21:06] <arlosmar> hello. is it possible to use ctr tab to change tabs in thunar please?
[21:06] <abc> mong :thanks
[21:07] <OerHeks> xorred sounds like encrypted, or damaged
[21:07] <nnG> saaalve!!!
[21:07] <ThinkT510> abc: you do realise that running it in a vm still means we can't offer you support since its still not a ubuntu issue?
[21:08] <xorred> OerHeks rm -rf fixed it :D
[21:08] <abc> I agree on that part thinkt510
[21:09] <abc> but I hope when the virtual machine is gonna interact with the host machine...
[21:09] <xing> 我撫摸自己!!
[21:09] <abc> every instruction to hardware is passed thru host machine
[21:09] <abc> right?
[21:09] <OerHeks> !cn | xing
[21:10] <ThinkT510> abc: its not a ubuntu issue therefore no support here
[21:10] <xing> 我撫摸自己
[21:10] <abc> and this would not hamper the functionality of oracle instance that would be currently launched....
[21:10] <abc> ThinT510 : did you get what I am saying?
[21:11] <ThinkT510> abc: a vm obviously will perform less capably than real hardware
[21:11] <dogbert2> ThinkT510, yeah, but it's a great way to test stuff w/out wrecking existing operating systems :)
[21:12] <abc> ThinkT510 : I agree on that part....
[21:12] <cnf> so no one that can help me out with pam a bit?
[21:12] <abc> but it will behave as it is while run time....
[21:12] <abc> performance issue might be there....
[21:12] <OerHeks> dogbert2, with a few exceptions, true (like videodrivers & wireless)
[21:13] <abc> that is the slowness of oracle cursors....
[21:13] <mong> abc: well, hopefully this is not production :P
[21:13] <bekks> abc: It will not behave like Ubuntu. And all those issues can be solved, witha reasonable configuration, of the vm, the guest OS, and the RDBMS.
[21:13] <dogbert2> OerHeks, I use VirtualBox to test various IDS products and code...:)
[21:13] <cnf> production, we run everything in VMs
[21:13] <dogbert2> if I mess up, just delete the VM and try again :)
[21:13] <cnf> dogbert2: snapshots
[21:14] <Unirgy> hi, in `ps -o ??` what is the identifier of current, NOT cumulative cpu utilization? thanks
[21:14] <dogbert2> cnf...well, I usually don't mess up all that much...besides, loading from ISO images always faster than CD/DVD :)
[21:14] <abc> bekks : that is where i needed to focus
[21:14] <ThinkT510> abc: i'm just trying to tell you that setting up something in a vm doesn't make this a ubuntu issue, so you'll have to look for help with it elsewhere (we can help you getting vm software installed but thats where it stops)
[21:14] <swordfish_> Hello everyone I'm trying to push an application for ubuntu touch on the launchpad. I already set up everything but i keep getting an error message when i try to push to trunk. I can upload new branches, but cant work with trunk... Any help would be appreciated :) ...
[21:15] <dogbert2> hey OerHeks, can you look at this: http://pastebin.com/RQkGGK2B
[21:15] <abc> ThinkT510 : okay, whichvm do i need to install?
[21:15] <bekks> abc: First, you have to get all that up and running. After that, you can care about problems in your setup.
[21:15] <bekks> abc: Virtualbox.
[21:15] <bekks> abc: Follow the installation instructions on the official vbox site.
[21:16] <abc> the one that mong mentioned; right?
[21:16] <bekks> abc: www.virtualbox.org
[21:16] <ThinkT510> !cookie | bekks
[21:16] <bekks> abc: Thats the official site.
[21:16] <abc>  thanks...checking...
[21:18] <vitimiti> nighty night
[21:19] <xkernel> is there a way to login to Ubuntu with Certificate installed on USB flash memory and password at the same time??
[21:19] <abc> I think I need to go now....
[21:19] <abc> thank you gentlemen....
[21:19] <abc> I will come back with virtual box installed on ma machine
[21:20] <abc> bekks, mong, ThinkT510 : thankyou  guyzz...
[21:20] <dogbert2> hmmmm
[21:21] <Lukario45> My god i fainted when i saw this channel
[21:23] <number-7> how come if i type echo $LINES it shows me 24 25 whatever, but LINES is not automatically exported?
[21:25] <number-7> ok, how come LINES is not automatically exported?
[21:26] <number-7> how does a program get the number of lines on an xterm?
[21:26] <cnf> xkernel: with pam, if you can figure it out :P
[21:30] <cnf> ARGL, pam driving me nuts >,<
[21:32] <DiegoNolan> Anyone know how to solve the unable to login in problem?  Using gdm is not working
[21:33] <OerHeks> DiegoNolan, your ..Xauthority might be owned by root, remove this file and you can get back in >>  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62084-Can-t-login-into-the-system&s=287bbb93656dee7c53625958a278db98&p=323637&viewfull=1#post323637  this is an Kubuntu answer, applies to ubuntu too
[21:34] <DiegoNolan> i Tried that.  I maved in to a backup  mv ~/.Xauthority ~/.Xauthority.backup
[21:35] <OerHeks> DiegoNolan, oh, then i have no clue, this answer is working for most users with this issue
[21:36] <woutersimons> DiegoNoaln can you logg in to console with the same credentials
[21:37] <th0r> DiegoNolan, are you sure that moved the file? If it is owned by root you will have to use sudo
[21:37] <DiegoNolan> dmm
[21:37] <OerHeks> for same credentials he should restore that backup
[21:37] <DiegoNolan> it was back so i romoved it again
[21:37] <DiegoNolan> maybe this will work
[21:38] <OerHeks> it is re-generated on boot...
[21:38] <DiegoNolan> nope
[21:38] <DiegoNolan> this is a pretty infuriating issue
[21:38] <m1chael> i bought a new asus laptop. i am experiencing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1172151 .. when will this fix make it to a release?
[21:38] <UBlondie> when it states to make a file 'writable', what exactly does that mean?  ...ie. File in question has permissions: -rw-r--r--  ...is that enough?  should it ideally have  -rw-rw-rw-  ?
[21:38] <xkernel> cnf, it's just uses a USB serial number to authenticate?? http://linuxconfig.org/linux-authentication-login-with-usb-device
[21:39] <UBlondie> trying to change it using chmod (and sudo chmod) were completely ineffective (and didn't come up with any errors)
[21:39] <cnf> xkernel: i use TOTP myself
[21:40] <cnf> xkernel: but it's just pam configuration
[21:40] <cnf> which i am having a problem with myself, atm :P
[21:41] <cnf> xkernel: what from that article isn't working?
[21:41] <UBlondie> ...I was also able to edit the contents of the file using gedit by the way ...so in that context it seems 'writable'
[21:41] <DiegoNolan> well can i change my keyboard to programmer dvorak via cmomand line, else i'm going to take 5 days to back these files up in qwerty
[21:41] <xkernel> cnf, didn't try it yet but I see it's identifies a USB device S/N and UUID to authenticate it
[21:41] <cnf> yes...
[21:42] <xkernel> cnf, this can be easily evade by a microcontroller  or fake device,  I'm looking for something that fetches certificate from the USB
[21:43] <cnf> why? i think it's kinda stupid anyway
[21:43] <cnf> 1)  physical access means it is too late, really, anyway
[21:43] <cnf> it's far easier booting from usb than faking usb ID's
[21:43] <cnf> 2) doesn't work remote
[21:43] <cnf> 3) TOTP is FAR easier, and works remote
[21:44] <servvs> okay so i made the terrible decision today to upgrade to 13.04, I have to revert to the live disc because I am not able to use internet and my video looks terrible, my resolution is way down. Is this a common issue with 13.04 not installing the proper drivers?
[21:45] <cnf> xkernel: and 4) TOTP has to be authed every time, so it is secure remote as well
[21:45] <OerHeks> m1chael, read after #35, the issue is solved, it was a bios update, not a wpa issue, so it will be available tru updated atheros  i guess, else be patient.
[21:45] <cnf> xkernel: so my main question would be, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[21:47] <xkernel> cnf, like I said in the beginning; authentication with device as well as password like https://www.hidglobal.com/products/cards-and-credentials/identity-assurance/usb-tokens
[21:48] <cnf> xkernel: those work by generating OTP
[21:48] <cnf> not by having "a certificate"
[21:49] <cnf> xkernel: do you have a smartphone?
[21:49] <xkernel> cnf, not currently
[21:49] <xkernel> cnf but will get one, what the solution you want to say??
[21:49] <cnf> xkernel: TOTP (Time based One Time Password)
[21:50] <cnf> smart phone generates a token, that is valid for 30 seconds, and one time use
[21:50] <cnf> it's what my servers have
[21:50] <xkernel> cnf,  which application will be installed on the smart phone to generate the password???
[21:50] <cnf> several can do it
[21:50] <cnf> the google authenticator app for iOS and android does it, but i prefer the Duo Security app on iOS or android myself
[21:51] <cnf> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.duosecurity.duomobile for android
[21:51] <cnf> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/duo-mobile/id422663827?mt=8 for ios
[21:51] <cnf> there is a blackberry one as well
[21:51] <OerHeks> i use yubikey, but those systems rely on internet.
[21:51] <xkernel> cnf, is it secure enough to synchronize google authenticator app with the server? I mean is there any chance that another app match mine?
[21:51] <cnf> xkernel: it also secures my VPN
[21:51]  * dogbert2 kicks VBox right in da junk
[21:52] <cnf> xkernel: there is no synchronize
[21:52] <bazhang> dogbert2, stop that
[21:52] <cnf> xkernel: google has nothing to do with it
[21:52] <cnf> xkernel: it's just their app you use
[21:52] <cnf> OerHeks: i use Duo services, but yeah it needs internet
[21:52] <cnf> OerHeks: you can use the yubi key offline, if you know the key secret, though
[21:52] <tf201> hi
[21:52] <cnf> don how open they are
[21:53] <OerHeks> well, i can run my own auth,
[21:53] <cnf> yah
[21:53] <cnf> xkernel: the TOTP is a well documented standard
[21:53] <cnf> xkernel: google authenticator and duo security are just 2 apps that implement TOTP
[21:54] <tf201> I've never used irc, where can I find help for an android device?
[21:54] <cnf> OerHeks: have you looked at duo security? their service is pretty damn nice, and free up to 10 users
[21:54] <bazhang> tf201, #android