[05:02] <jessie> I log in and it dies, sigh :-)
[05:02] <jb_> no wa catagory
[05:02] <scott_ino2> alabd, you can get a free vmware license by registering
[05:02] <Bluey> let me see if I can paste bin
[05:02] <neeroze> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:02] <KingNimrod> foey: hang on just looking something up...
[05:02] <scott_ino2> or used to be able to at least
[05:02] <Docteh> scott_ino2: you set the file name to be something like \\Devices\Yaddayadda
[05:02] <nanotube> ksbalaji: try the newer version with a livecd first, make sure everything works. but yea, sticking with an LTS doesn't work for too long, as things get outdated/improved.
[05:02] <Docteh> for vmware that is
[05:02] <leaf-sheep> ksbalaji: In theory, it should be same.  However, I always resort to full clean installation than upgrading because I have the tendency to try new things/packages all times. ^^
[05:02] <elninja> ksbalaji, If you don't want to risk losing data, your best option is backing it up.
[05:02] <KingNimrod> foey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[05:02] <Bluey> !pastebin
[05:02] <leaf-sheep> ksbalaji: There you go.  elninja said it all.  BACKUP YOUR DATA. :)
[05:03] <alabd> scott_ino2 another os is installed
[05:03] <starenki> Docteh, I am using gnome-network-properties and tick the option this will apply to the system. everything works fine but I have to reboot if I want change to direct connection
[05:03] <Docteh> really? try just restarting the apps that use the network
[05:03] <Bluey> nope only text
[05:03] <KingNimrod> foey: looks like grub needs to be altered to use the frame buffer in the virtual ttys
[05:03] <starenki> Docteh, this down't work for me
[05:03] <Bluey> let me run it up to my site
[05:03] <Docteh> starenki: what other than web browsers are you using with a proxy?
[05:03] <scott_ino2> alabd, yeah i realize that, just didnt know something like vmware supports doing that now
[05:03] <neeroze> docteh: can u help me
[05:03] <jb_> Docteh: in system monitor it says sync_page under wait
[05:04] <epaphus> Hello guys, how can I know if Foxconn A6VMX2-K MoBO is compatible with Ubuntu 9.04.. or where can I check?
[05:04] <foey> KingNimrod : Ahhh ok, will bookmark this and have a read through. Many thanks :-)
[05:04] <ksbalaji> Thanks friends and bye! I shall back up ( got to buy a bigger HDD first) and go for fresh install.
[05:04] <neeroze> hello
[05:04] <neeroze> hello
[05:04] <neeroze> hello
[05:04] <Docteh> neeroze: I can give out hints but I don't know more than that ;)
[05:04] <jb_> Docteh: either sync buffer sync page or 0
[05:04] <starenki> Docteh, any console app for instance
[05:04] <FloodBot3> neeroze: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:04] <KingNimrod> foey: to answer your other question, I don't believe it's possible to view vt1 from X
[05:04] <foey> KingNimrod : OK, no problems. Just would of been nice :-)
[05:04] <Docteh> starenki: in console just fiddle with the environment variable that is set
[05:05] <neeroze> i mean my wireless service is disabled
[05:05] <Docteh> starenki: set |grep <nameofproxy>
[05:05] <gartral> alabd: vmware Player is free, but i donlt like VMware, i like VB, which has 2 free versions, the free closed source, and the open source one, you want the closed source one from sun's website
[05:05] <neeroze> is there any one using MSI CR400 model laptop
[05:05] <KingNimrod> foey: you're welcome - I'll be reading it too. Didn't realise framebuffer wasn't the default until you mentioned it.
[05:05] <neeroze> is there any one using MSI CR400 model laptop
[05:05] <neeroze> is there any one using MSI CR400 model laptop
[05:06] <FloodBot3> neeroze: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <Docteh> zomgflood
[05:06] <Docteh> !repeat
[05:06] <maxxist> Off-topic question for the channel.  What is the state of ubuntu and EXT4?  Anyone using it?  are the performance gains worth it?  I am asking because I know there was some problems with ext4 before.  btw I am on jaunty.
[05:06] <kermit> maxxist: xfs will get you everything ext4 does
[05:06] <thiebaude> maxxist, use it know on 9.10
[05:06] <thiebaude> now
[05:06] <kermit> ext4 is playing catch-up with xfs
[05:07] <Docteh> neeroze: ubuntu does have a wiki with stuff like what laptop has what wireless card in it btw
[05:07] <foey> KingNimrod : Yeh, I was using SuSE 11.1 the other day and the console was running a higher res, text was a lot smaller and smoother.
[05:07] <starenki> Docteh, in the office I am using automated proxy script and not just single proxy
[05:07] <maxxist> kermit: is xfs available in ubuntu installer?
[05:07] <kermit> maxxist: yes
[05:07] <alabd> gartral:  so VB is downloading ,but how to boot another os from other partition ?
[05:07] <gartral> alabd: dont know
[05:07] <Docteh> foey: look up setting the framebuffer resolution, its a boot parameter and would go into the boot loader config file
[05:07] <gartral> alabd: ask in #virtualbox
[05:08] <Docteh> brb rebooting windows :D
[05:08] <alabd> gartral:  thanks
[05:08] <alabd> scott_ino2 thanks
[05:09] <foey>
[05:09] <alabd> thanks everyone who helps others
[05:09] <scott_ino2> alabd, np... like i said you used to be able to get free vmware licenses for personal use
[05:09] <scott_ino2> not sure if they changed it
[05:10] <alabd> ok thanks
[05:10] <paipimenta> !dualboot
[05:10] <{Onyx}> Ok, this is annoying. Sound recorder recognizes my mic but Rosetta stone under wine isn't
[05:12] <maxxist> kermit: sorry new question.  xfs or zfs?
[05:12] <kermit> maxxist: i dont think zfs is a common option
[05:13] <{Onyx}> Think I'm just going to pull this x-fi card. A little better music quality isn't worth not having a microphone
[05:13] <maxxist> kermit: yeah i doesnt seem to be.  but looking at wikipedia says xfs is 64 bit.  and zfs is 128.  seems a few OS's are trying to implement.  even OSX...
[05:15] <kermit> maxxist: xfs has been a standard part of linux for 6+ years now and does pretty much everything ext4 brags about.. you still have to go out of your way to use zfs
[05:16]  * gartral is still running ext3due to slow p/ata drives on his ubuntu comp
[05:17] <maxxist> kermit: do you find xfs any more difficult to setup than ext3 ??  will I have to format my ext3 for xfs?  I find this to be a nice feature of ext4(no need to format)...
[05:17] <kermit> maxxist: no, you dont do anyhting different than just picking it from the menu
[05:17] <maxxist> kermit:  ty
[05:17] <kermit> maxxist: err. if you already HAVE ext3 system, yeah you'd have to format
[05:17] <kermit> maxxist: i thought you meant on an install
[05:18] <maxxist> kermit: do you think the original ext4 kernel stability problems in ubuntu have been fixed?
[05:19] <kermit> maxxist: i dont know, i dont like the way its so many years behind though, i prefer something more proven
[05:19] <kermit> maxxist: yet that still has the featurse i want
[05:19] <maxxist> kermit agreed.
[05:19] <thiebaude> maxxist, in 30days ubuntu 9.10 is being released with ext4 by default
[05:20] <kermit> also i still found ext4 to be much more disk heavy than xfs in a little test of writing a bunch of different files at once
[05:20] <maxxist> thiebaude: so it must be fixed now.  at least in the next kernel...
[05:20] <mysteriousdarren> I hope so Im looking forward to trying it out anyway.
[05:20] <thiebaude> maxxist, i didn't think it was broke i used it in 9.04
[05:21] <maxxist> thiebaude: good to know.  thanx.
[05:21] <thiebaude> maxxist, np
[05:21] <flying_penguin> ext4 has been pretty stable for a while imo
[05:21] <mysteriousdarren> I heard from several people there were some stability issues
[05:21] <kermit> maxxist: xfs was made by SGI, who make high performance graphic systems for CGI effects in movies
[05:21] <flying_penguin> i would choose it over xfs really
[05:21] <thiebaude> flying_penguin, and its fast also
[05:22] <maxxist> kermit: yeah i read that on wikipedia.
[05:22] <LaveliDeara1> hlo
[05:22] <kermit> i dont know of anything ext4 does that xfs hasnt done for 6 years now
[05:22] <flying_penguin> but changing from ext3 to somthing new would be a huge headache if you want to keep your data
[05:22] <kermit> flying_penguin: yeah not worth switching
[05:22] <kermit> maxxist: are you switching or talking about a new install/?
[05:22] <thiebaude> how many years has ext been around?
[05:22] <LaveliDeara1> my have issues with sound
[05:23] <maxxist> kermit: i am thinking about just switching.  there is pages that describe doing the conversion.  without formatting.
[05:23] <mysteriousdarren> would you be able to use say ext3 to transfer to a ext4 external hard drive and be safe?
[05:23] <user_> vigiiiiii
[05:23] <kermit> maxxist: oh thast not worth it really
[05:24] <maxxist> kermit: why not?  would it not achieve the same in the end?
[05:24] <flying_penguin> maxxist: the best way to do it if you really want to is offload your data, reformat, then bring it all back
[05:24] <maxxist> yeah just so much work.  plus I dont have a backup drive with enough space.
[05:24] <LaveliDeara1> I was listening music in background, and in a minute all sound goes off, I installed pulseaudio and sound was back for system sounds, but still I couldn't play music
[05:25] <LaveliDeara1> can anyone point me how to check what happened ?
[05:25] <flying_penguin> if you are stuck on a single drive the process would be to resize the current partition, create the new one, then move the data from the old partition to the new one, then resize the old partition down to 0
[05:26] <flying_penguin> its not fun and there is a good chance you will lose some data anyway
[05:27] <maxxist> flying_penguin: think i will stick with ext3 for a little while.  until i can find a cheap backup solution.
[05:28] <mysteriousdarren> what do u mean cheap? how much do u need? space?
[05:29] <iboy1011> hi
[05:29] <Axess_Denied> yo
[05:29] <iboy1011> hello Axess
[05:29] <iboy1011> I came here cause i can't get ubuntu to run on my laptop
[05:29] <Axess_Denied> <----- Curious about Koala and PulsAduio issues
[05:30] <Axess_Denied> What problems are you having iboy?
[05:30] <iboy1011> I have ubuntu installed on a usb drive and I can't boot from it
[05:30] <iboy1011> with my laptop
[05:31] <Axess_Denied> Have you told your system bios to boot from USB?
[05:31] <iboy1011> How do I do that?
[05:31] <Axess_Denied> What kind of laptop do you have?
[05:31] <ajhtiredwolf> iboy1011, right after the initial post screen usually you can press esc or f12 and a boot menu will come up
[05:31] <iboy1011> It is a Hp pavilion
[05:31] <Raydiation> when can we expect beta of karmic?
[05:32] <thiebaude> Raydiation, Oct 1 thursday
[05:32] <botux> good evening all
[05:32] <Axess_Denied> I think as aj pointed out your option is F12
[05:32] <flying_penguin> iboy1011: you need to have created the usb distro as a live environment. just installing on the usb drive like it was a harddrive probably wont work if you switch computers you boot on
[05:32] <Raydiation> thiebaude: k thx, in this case im waiting with downloading^^
[05:32] <ajhtiredwolf> flying_penguin, should work
[05:32] <iboy1011> The usb drive works on my school's computers
[05:32] <thiebaude> Raydiation, im eagerly waiting for alot of updates then
[05:33] <iboy1011> I'll try the 'esc' button
[05:33] <gartral> flying_penguin iboy1011 it WILL if you install LiLo too the usb drive!
[05:33] <iboy1011> I'll come back if that doesn't work
[05:33] <Axess_Denied> <--------- Been reading the feeds and ubuntuforums, any issues with PulseAudio 9.0.15 in Karmic? I just had a headache getting it to run all my audio through HDMI
[05:33] <ajhtiredwolf> iboy1011, try what i said, when your computer turns on look fo rsomething that says "press this key for boot options" or else when the computer starts perss the delete key to get into the bios and change the boot device to usb
[05:34] <flying_penguin> gartral: personaly i can't stand lilo but i think you are right
[05:34] <Axess_Denied> the other option is to enter bios and change your boot priority there
[05:34] <gartral> flying_penguin: it's easier to install than GRUB2
[05:34] <wahnfrieden> hi
[05:35] <wahnfrieden> hy
[05:35] <Axess_Denied> Güten Tag wahnfrieden!
[05:35] <wahnfrieden> help me out
[05:35] <wahnfrieden> Axess_Denied: WTF?
[05:35] <LaveliDeara1> hey guys, how can I determine what is the problem with my audio playback ?
[05:35] <flying_penguin> lilo is anchent i definatly prefer gurb (pardon my spelling)
[05:35] <golem_> gurb is great
[05:35] <botux> hey guys im getting an error when i click the red arrow at the top to update packages
[05:35] <Axess_Denied> Your nick appears German, what help do you need
[05:36] <{Onyx}> Sweet, think I got it. Had to switch to OSS in wine.
[05:36] <wahnfrieden> Axess_Denied: I wanna put UBUNTU into my car management system
[05:36] <wahnfrieden> I have a Volkswagen and an Opel
[05:36] <wahnfrieden> either one is ok
[05:36] <paipimenta> wahnfrieden: NICE
[05:36] <Axess_Denied> und du bist nicht Deutshcer?
[05:37] <wahnfrieden> Axess_Denied: what the hell man
[05:37] <Axess_Denied> That is a great project
[05:37] <wahnfrieden> paipimenta: id like to visit nice, that where your from?
[05:37] <{Onyx}> yes
[05:38] <paipimenta> no, I am from California...
[05:38] <paipimenta> but I think it's nice that you are putting Ubuntu on your car
[05:38] <Raydiation> i guess he meatn niece
[05:38] <Axess_Denied> c'mon a VW and an Opel? Are you kidding me? I'd claim German...
[05:38] <wahnfrieden> my niece
[05:38] <paipimenta> I am way too chicken and noob to slackware my car
[05:38] <wahnfrieden> Axess_Denied: ???/
[05:38] <wahnfrieden> theyre cars
[05:39] <Axess_Denied> Really?  I'm currently looking at virtualbox
[05:40] <LaveliDeara1> how can I check what's not correct with my audio  ?
[05:40] <wahnfrieden> WHERE DO I CLICK
[05:40] <krang> I'd like something easy
[05:41] <Axess_Denied> VBOX rules, krang
[05:41] <KingNimrod> krang: I'd go with vbox...
[05:41] <Flannel> wahnfrieden: For what?
[05:41] <wahnfrieden> make sure you get the non-open source VBOX
[05:41] <wahnfrieden> otherwise some features are disabled
[05:41] <krang> KingNimrod,
[05:41] <iboy1011> Hello, I'm back
[05:41] <wahnfrieden> Flannel: which buttton
[05:41] <krang> KingNimrod: What do you find is better than VMware or quemu about it?
[05:41] <Axess_Denied> What are you talking about, wahnfrieden?
[05:42] <wahnfrieden> Axess_Denied: I cant read what youve said to me
[05:42] <iboy1011> The still can't boot from the usb drive with my laptop
[05:42] <KingNimrod> krang: ease of use
[05:42] <flying_penguin> krang: alot of ppl i know swere by vmware if you want to go full F/OSS i like zen but its not easy to configure
[05:42] <iboy1011> I still can't boot from the usb drive with my laptop
[05:42] <wahnfrieden> krang, is that the japanese name for that new c++ compiler
[05:42] <KingNimrod> krang: and features - 3d is good
[05:42] <Axess_Denied> krang: I also like that with Vbox you can boot multiple Vms and allow them each different priorities ovver your host system
[05:43] <Axess_Denied> Thank you Flannel
[05:43] <krang> Hmmm, sounds like the way to go. I'm definitely not interested in high performance server virtualisation, and ease of use is big.
[05:43] <Axess_Denied> iboy: what did you try when you rebooted your laptop?
[05:43] <krang> VirtualBox it is! Thanks all!
[05:43] <iboy1011> I tried pressing 'esc' and 'f12'
[05:43] <tehbaut> anyone know if theres a shortcut like ctrl+alt+[+/-] for temporary zooming of the mouse region?
[05:44] <thiebaude> iboy1011, try f2
[05:44] <KingNimrod> tehbaut: do you use compiz?
[05:44] <iboy1011> f12 didn't do anything. 'esc' only brought up some information
[05:44] <{Onyx}> Cool got everything working great with speakers running through my x-fi card and mic through onboard
[05:44] <Axess_Denied> Why don't we give him the URL to the HP Pavillion BIOS walkthrough?
[05:44] <Axess_Denied> That might be a better idea...
[05:44] <{Onyx}> What was the question?
[05:44] <cvandyke> Hi all
[05:44] <{Onyx}> I know HP BIOS well
[05:44] <KingNimrod> tehbaut: if you do there is an exellent zoom feature
[05:44] <cvandyke> does anyone here have experience loading tclkit in 9.04?
[05:45] <thiebaude> {Onyx}, what is the f-key to enter bios setup?
[05:45] <{Onyx}> f-10
[05:45] <thiebaude> iboy1011, f10
[05:45] <{Onyx}> f-9 when inside to load setup defaults and f-10 again to exit saving
[05:45] <tehbaut> KingNimrod: how cpu/gpu intensive is it?
[05:46] <KingNimrod> tehbaut: not very AFAIK
[05:46] <tehbaut> I'm running an Intel Atom/Nvidia Ion
[05:46] <Axess_Denied> iboy: try this URL http://www2.mustek.com/support/techdocs/bios.html
[05:46] <Axess_Denied> this should tell you how to enter bios
[05:46] <tehbaut> apt-get install compiz then?
[05:47] <flying_penguin> tehbaut: compiz is pretty cumbersom imo
[05:47] <{Onyx}> O yeah, iboy. You have to start tapping f-10 as soon as you hit the power button or you'll miss it
[05:47] <Axess_Denied> you need to change your boot priority from CD-Rom or Hard Drive as the first option to USB or External Drive
[05:47] <flying_penguin> and (mostly) useless
[05:47] <tehbaut> btw, half of these screensavers run at poor framerates
[05:47] <tehbaut> is that normal?
[05:47] <{Onyx}> If you're still not able to hit it hit the power button and then hold down f-10 until it starts beeping like crazy
[05:47] <Axess_Denied> Guys the HP BIOS is listed as F1, not F2, or F10 or Fme
[05:47] <{Onyx}> I'd trust me over what you're reading.
[05:48] <iboy1011> The link is not working for me
[05:48] <Axess_Denied> Why?
[05:48] <botux> hey guys im getting an error when i try to update packages by clicking the red arrow at the top of the screen can you assist
[05:48]  * {Onyx} spends 8 hours a day dealing with HP computers.
[05:49] <Axess_Denied> iboy: at the blue splash screen, where it says HP, try pressing F1 a few times, if that doesn't work try F10 (but you need to do this before the computer begins the OS boot cycle)
[05:49] <Axess_Denied> Onyx: I'm sorry for you
[05:49] <iboy1011> Ok, I'll come back when that doesn't work
[05:49] <{Onyx}> Me too.
[05:50] <Axess_Denied> I spent about 8 hours a day messing with Tor and Privaxy... then I gave up because I see no use
[05:51] <botux> hey guys im getting an error when i try to update packages by clikcing the red down arrow at the top of the screen
[05:51] <Axess_Denied> Hey botux: what error are you getting?
[05:51] <cvandyke> does anyone here have any experience with tclkit?
[05:51] <{Onyx}> They had an opening for support positions directly working for HP and making like 15k a year more than I do now.
[05:51] <Axess_Denied> Did you take it?
[05:51] <{Onyx}> But I would have to move to Arkansas
[05:52] <Axess_Denied> Arkansas!?! Gee golly...
[05:52] <Axess_Denied> Hey, they do have some NICE hot springs
[05:52] <cvandyke> raise plus lower cost of living... wow
[05:52] <{Onyx}> Yeah, they've figured out us Midwesterners are as exploitable as Indians
[05:52] <Don_Miguel> I liked Arkansas
[05:52] <Axess_Denied> in this 'economic climate'
[05:52] <tehbaut> is vnc built in? I only see remote desktop...
[05:52] <Axess_Denied> Where are you now?
[05:52] <{Onyx}> Missouri
[05:52] <Axess_Denied> I lived in STL
[05:53] <{Onyx}> When I move I'm going back to a major metro area, not another redneck state
[05:53] <cvandyke> yeah, I work for an indian company (not indian)
[05:53] <Axess_Denied> I am in DC now!
[05:53] <cvandyke> <Texas
[05:53] <{Onyx}> I'd love to move to DC
[05:53] <cvandyke> yee haw and all that
[05:53] <oldboy> do you work at TCS?
[05:53] <Axess_Denied> Indian like sitthing bull or ghandi?
[05:53] <cvandyke> me?
[05:53] <{Onyx}> I'd get my A+ certs and crap but I'd just be more overqualified for my current job.
[05:53] <Axess_Denied> yessir
[05:54] <{Onyx}> IT around here sucks.
[05:54] <cvandyke> I left TCS in January
[05:54] <Flannel> Hey guys, you mind moving the non-support conversations to #ubuntu-offtopic? Thanks
[05:54] <cvandyke> sorry Flannal
[05:54] <Axess_Denied> our bad
[05:54] <Flannel> cvandyke: No worries, just a friendly reminder
[05:55] <{Onyx}> I need to head to bed anyway. Have to be up for work in 6 hours.
[05:55] <shentino> Anyone have problem with the numpad while using a PS/2 keyboard?
[05:55] <{Onyx}> Do you have numlock enabled?
[05:55] <shentino> yes
[05:55] <{Onyx}> I'm using PS2 keyboard just fine.
[05:56] <Axess_Denied> What is your mouse using?
[05:56] <shentino> I installed jaunty while I had a USB keyboard.  When it bit the dust I started using a PS/2
[05:56] <shentino> Mouse is on USB
[05:56] <shentino> the numpad only works at the login screen, then stops working
[05:56] <botux> Axess_Denied its rather large should i use pastebin?
[05:56] <flying_penguin> shentino: i once spilled mt dew all over mine but i never found the config file that could fix that
[05:57] <Axess_Denied> botux: does it give you a general description?
[05:57] <{Onyx}> What a horrible waste of caffeine
[05:57] <shentino> they keys are physically intact, since I can type numbers in at the login screen.  But that part of the keyboard goes dumb right after that.
[05:57] <{Onyx}> Did you check your keyboard layout?
[05:57] <flying_penguin> {Onyx}: It was an orange one too. I was sad
[05:57] <botux> kinda i cnat understand it
[05:57] <Axess_Denied> Have youtried toggling the numlock just to refresh after login?
[05:57] <gartral> shentino: hit NumLock...
[05:57] <shentino> Ax:  Yes
[05:57] <shentino> gar:  did that already
[05:58] <shentino> numlock off and the "arrow" keys do diddly
[05:58] <gartral> !tab | shentino
[05:58] <botux> Axess_Denied well its acting like it might work now lol
[05:58] <shentino> numlock on and the numbers do squat
[05:58] <shentino> onyx:  let me double check...
[05:58] <shentino> The keyboard layout is an exact match...even right down to the vendor and style.
[05:59] <Axess_Denied> botux: always remeber to use ':-$ sudo' for apt-get and make sure you do upgrades as a user with those permissions or use fakeroot
[05:59] <{Onyx}> Try w/o the mouse connected?
[05:59] <flying_penguin> shentino: the kernel is pretty good at handeling keyboards now-a-days the problem is probably that it is broken but new keyboard are pretty cheap
[06:00] <{Onyx}> Na, his keyboard works at the login
[06:00] <Axess_Denied> flying-penguin: he says it works in login screen?
[06:00] <Axess_Denied> It may be a driver issue.... Have you checked your config?
[06:00] <shentino> Yeah, where it prompts me fur username and password
[06:00] <flying_penguin> shentino: the numlock works at login?
[06:00] <flying_penguin> or numpad
[06:01] <shentino> Axess_Denied: be more specific.  What config in particular?
[06:01] <shentino> fp:  yes
[06:01] <shentino> I can type digits and use the numpad arrows
[06:01] <Axess_Denied> checking... 1moment
[06:01] <tehbaut> I cannot seem to connect to my ubuntu machine via VNC
[06:01] <flying_penguin> shentino: what wm are you using?
[06:01] <tehbaut> common issues?
[06:01] <shentino> It could be kernel config, keyboard layout config, something in the Xorg.conf
[06:01] <shentino> gnome
[06:01] <flying_penguin> if it is gnome or kde i would guess that is messing with the configuration
[06:02] <Axess_Denied> shentino: what distro are you using
[06:02] <shentino> jaunty
[06:02] <{Onyx}> Hmm, under keyboard prefs look and see if keyboard controls mouse is enabled
[06:02] <shentino> vanilla install from the official CD
[06:02] <shentino> Onyx: how suspicious...the numpad moved my pointer!
[06:02] <botux> Axess_Denied not sure where to do that once i clcik red arrow and update manager comes up
[06:03] <shentino> Onyx:  FIXED
[06:03] <{Onyx}> Yeah, go to keyboard prefs and under mouse keys disable it
[06:03] <flying_penguin> there should be some kind of keyboard controll in the administration section of the gnome menu. that is where i would start
[06:03] <{Onyx}> Google FTW!
[06:03] <Axess_Denied> System > Preferences >Keyboard (default)
[06:03] <shentino> That also solves the riddle of the jittery cursor :)
[06:03] <{Onyx}> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766789 my google-fu rocks.
[06:03] <flying_penguin> shentino: it was a wm issue then
[06:03] <flying_penguin> ?
[06:04] <shentino> I suppose
[06:04] <shentino> the config was wrong.
[06:04] <botux> axess_Denied it keeps saying some of the packages couldn't be retrieved from the server
[06:04] <shentino> Though how in tarnation that option got set in the first place is beyond me
[06:04] <Axess_Denied> That may happen, are you doing a distro upgrade?
[06:05] <flying_penguin> shentino: ubuntu auto-configures a lot of stuff. theres plenty of room for bugs
[06:05] <mgmuscari> hey, i have a question about resizing partitions...
[06:05] <botux> Axess_Denied no just updating programs and apps that its telling me to update
[06:05] <Axess_Denied> ...?
[06:05] <{Onyx}> mgm be sure to back up all your stuff before you mess with partitions.
[06:06] <flying_penguin> mgmuscari: im sorry
[06:06] <mgmuscari> let's say i have my /home on a logical partition, and it's now preceded by a large block of contiguous empty space... can i resize my /home to utilize that space too?
[06:06] <balsaq> treid to dual myself today but didnt work
[06:06] <Axess_Denied> botux: double check your repositories (first) allow for third party and what not
[06:06] <mgmuscari> hm
[06:07] <botux> Axess_Denied how do it do that?
[06:07] <mgmuscari> maybe i can put my swap there
[06:07] <mgmuscari> ugh
[06:07] <mgmuscari> these being logical partitions doesn't help
[06:07] <flying_penguin> mgmuscari: you should be able to resize a logical partition into freespace wherever it is
[06:07] <Legendre> Hey, I have a question.. Why was the Klansman wearing a pink robe?
[06:07] <mgmuscari> it probably isn't safe to unmount /home...
[06:08] <mgmuscari> i guess i'll have to use a live cd or something
[06:08] <kermit> if it lets you, it's safe
[06:08] <Axess_Denied> nah, I wouldn't
[06:08] <Legendre> he forgot to separate his whites from his colors.
[06:08] <kermit> it wouldnt let you if you were using it
[06:08] <flying_penguin> Legendre: he probably washed it in the same load with his confederate flag
[06:08] <mgmuscari> hm
[06:08] <mgmuscari> brb
[06:08] <botux> Axess_Denied how do i do that
[06:08] <Axess_Denied> Well, in gdm he would be using it, right?
[06:08] <Legendre> flying_penguin: almost
[06:09] <kermit> Axess_Denied: i doubt gdm would be using any users' files who arent logged in
[06:10] <botux> Axess_Denied here is a pastebin example of an error i get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/281864/
[06:10] <iboy1011> Hi I'm back. I tried changing the boot order with 'f10' but my laptop still freezes after I plug my usb memory stick in
[06:10] <botux> Axess_Denied i get several of these errors for different programs
[06:11] <Axess_Denied> botux: here you are https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[06:11] <{Onyx}> iboy, when are you plugging it in?
[06:11] <iboy1011> Before I turn on the laptop
[06:11] <{Onyx}> When does it freeze?
[06:12] <{Onyx}> After the HP invent screen?
[06:12] <Axess_Denied> Did you create a bootable USB drive in your other OS?
[06:12] <iboy1011> When I see some options on the bottom of the screen like esc = information, f1 =...
[06:12] <Axess_Denied> The USB drive has to be configured with the iso to allow it to autorun from BIOS
[06:12] <iboy1011> Yea, I created it in my other OS
[06:13] <tehbaut> I cannot seem to connect to my ubuntu machine via VNC (using System > Preferences > Remote Desktop) ... are there any useful troubleshooting tips for debugging this?
[06:13] <Axess_Denied> Did you just drag and drop or did you create a bootable version?
[06:13] <iboy1011> I created a bootable version
[06:13] <Axess_Denied> k
[06:13] <{Onyx}> Is USB boot enabled in BIOS?
[06:14] <iboy1011> I don't remember seeing that option
[06:14] <{Onyx}> It's in there.
[06:14] <Axess_Denied> Under BOOT or BOOT PRIORITY on the top of the screen (usually)
[06:16] <iboy1011> Ok, I'll try to find it.
[06:16] <flying_penguin> iboy1011: some kernels wont boot from a live cd/usb on certain computers. try a different distro (Knoppix is my favorite for live environment) and see if that works
[06:16] <tehbaut> so no one knows any vnc troubleshooting tips?
[06:16] <MrHellmund> is there any wiki editing software from gnome?
[06:16] <iboy1011> Ok
[06:17] <r2wj1> What's the easiest way to share files between linux machines?
[06:17] <incentifit> Is it possible to execute a command as a particular user without logging in as that user?  For example, I'm thinking of sudo cp somefile tosomefile, but instead, someotheruser cp somefile tosomefile
[06:17] <balsaq> i heard there is a specific type of ubuntu that is designed to make online videos play correctly right off the bat? anyone know the name of that ubuntu or has antone tried it?
[06:17] <kermit> r2wj1: nfs
[06:17] <r2wj1> Can I set that up with no terminal stuff?
[06:17] <r2wj1> I don't mind the terminal, but my roommate is a newbie
[06:17] <r2wj1> and he wants to share our files
[06:17] <r2wj1> He loves netbook remix
[06:18] <flying_penguin> r2wj1: woof is pretty simple
[06:18] <KingNimrod> incentifit: su username cp file1 file2 ?
[06:18] <flying_penguin> if you like the terminal netcat is awsome
[06:18] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: just dl Adobe Flash Player and uninstall swfc
[06:18] <kermit> r2wj1: you might want the 'soft' option for what you're probably using nfs for
[06:18] <r2wj1> what is woof?
[06:18] <crackintosh> does anyone still have crappy hd flash video with an nvidia card?
[06:19] <r2wj1> I normally use sshfs for my personal stuff
[06:19] <Axess_Denied> It will work in Ubuntu - Kubuntu and Xubuntu also
[06:19] <flying_penguin> woof is a simple web server for one off file transfers http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html
[06:19] <paipimenta> I want to insert a tab at the command line
[06:19] <r2wj1> But I want a really point and click friendly file sharing system
[06:19] <paipimenta> is there a way besides pushing Tab?
[06:19] <leaf-sheep> r2wj1: giver ?
[06:19] <leaf-sheep> !info giver | r2wj1
[06:19] <r2wj1> flying_penguin: unfortunatley, that is not quite suitable
[06:19] <Axess_Denied> r2wj1: try dropbox
[06:19] <balsaq> i di the adobe..the one made for ubuntu but when i play youtube the videos plays slow and the nusic gets done before the video is over?
[06:19] <flying_penguin> nfs is better for a more perminate solution
[06:19] <r2wj1> Well that's what I'm after
[06:19] <r2wj1> He wants to access the media server downstairs
[06:20] <r2wj1> (both are ubuntu)
[06:20] <Axess_Denied> If you have media server try media tomb
[06:20] <KingNimrod> paipimenta: you could use the space bar several times in a row ;p
[06:20] <r2wj1> er, when I say media server
[06:20] <flying_penguin> but woof or netcat are great for transfering a singe file. scp is probably my favorite though but for that you need to be able to login to the remote machene
[06:20] <r2wj1> I mean.. it's a debian box with a big harddrive
[06:20] <paipimenta> I'm in rescue mode, no filesystems mounted, I'm editing /etc/fstab
[06:20] <Axess_Denied> try media tomb
[06:20] <r2wj1> it's not actually running services on it yet.. that's why I'm here
[06:20] <Axess_Denied> It usue upnp
[06:20] <balsaq> Axcess_Denied: did the adobe d-load for ubuntu
[06:21] <r2wj1> !info media-tomb | r2wj1
[06:21] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: ubninstall swfc - it blocks much of the flash content and freaks out adobe
[06:21] <Axess_Denied> Yes it does.
[06:21] <KingNimrod> paipimenta: IIRC any whitespace will be ignored when the file is parsed
[06:21] <Axess_Denied> Go to add/remove programs and open up you multiverses
[06:21] <Axess_Denied> media tomb is there
[06:21] <balsaq> Axess_Denied: ok is that how it is listed in my add remove...swfe?
[06:22] <Axess_Denied> Then google it for proper configuration-they have a good wiki
[06:22] <r2wj1> ta muchly
[06:22] <paipimenta> I'm on my Ubuntu desktop, rescue mode
[06:22] <paipimenta> I can't use vi, it's not loaded?
[06:22] <paipimenta> I need to add a line to /etc/fstab
[06:22] <paipimenta> with echo
[06:23] <Flannel> paipimenta: vim is installed by default, (although it's vim-tiny).  nano is too.
[06:23] <flying_penguin> r2wj1: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/ <-- in depth guide to setting up nfs (It's not hard if you want a simple setup)
[06:23] <paipimenta> Flannel: I booted with my install CD in rescue mode, nothing mounted
[06:23] <Flannel> paipimenta: but, to use echo, you'd use: `echo "whatever" >> /etc/fstab` in your recovery console.
[06:23] <paipimenta> in "whatever", i need tab delimited text
[06:23] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: make sure GNASH SWF Viewer is unistalled and also Swfdec Flash player
[06:24] <Flannel> paipimenta: No, you can use spaces just fine
[06:24] <paipimenta> when I push tab however, it uses the auto-complete function to clear the beginning quote of "whatever"
[06:24] <paipimenta> Flannel: cool
[06:24] <balsaq> Axess_Denied: looking in my add/remove file now thanks
[06:24] <KingNimrod> paipimenta: \t is the escape char for tab, I think
[06:24] <DigitalKiwi> yes
[06:24] <Flannel> paipimenta: But, if you want to use tab, you'd need to do echo -e "foo\tfoo\tfoo\tfoo"
[06:24] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: just type in flah in the search bar
[06:25] <balsaq> Axess_Denied: yes did it, shows adobe and movie player
[06:25] <Axess_Denied> *flash
[06:25] <Axess_Denied> That is all?
[06:25] <balsaq> yes
[06:25] <Axess_Denied> hmmm
[06:25] <balsaq> i am on 904
[06:26] <balsaq> ubuntu
[06:26] <paipimenta> I don't see the -e option in man echo
[06:26] <balsaq> was flash supposed to pull up the others too
[06:26] <Axess_Denied> Do you have the dropdown that says all available applications on the left? or just installed applications?
[06:26] <paipimenta> that's because it's a builtin?
[06:26] <DigitalKiwi>  -e     enable interpretation of backslash escapes
[06:26] <DigitalKiwi> maybe my man is better
[06:27] <KingNimrod> DigitalKiwi: Meow! :)
[06:27] <DigitalKiwi> nimrod was a beast
[06:28] <balsaq> Axess_Denied: went back, clicked on all, put in the word flash and 3 came up now (media came in now with them)
[06:28] <KingNimrod> DigitalKiwi: I never said he wasn't
[06:28] <paipimenta> so would echo -e '/dev/volgroup/logvol\t/home\text3\tdefaults\t0\t0' would be fine?
[06:28] <paipimenta> or do I need double quotes?
[06:28] <paipimenta>  all >> /etc/fstab
[06:28] <Flannel> paipimenta: no, single qoutes is fine
[06:28] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: in the upper-left there is a dropdown, it has options for which universes it is looking at. selest all available applications
[06:29] <DigitalKiwi> why does nano not work for this? :/
[06:29] <flying_penguin> Flannel: no single quotes will literealy interperit the string paipimenta: you need double quotes
[06:29] <Flannel> flying_penguin: no, bash isn't PHP
[06:30] <DigitalKiwi> echo -e '/dev/volgroup/logvol\t/home\text3\tdefaults\t0\t0'                                                                                (09-30 00:30)
[06:30] <DigitalKiwi> /dev/volgroup/logvol	/home	ext3	defaults	0	0
[06:30] <balsaq> Axess_Denied: yes, i did ALL, installed programs, then typed in flash, then it shows 3 of em
[06:30] <DigitalKiwi> the I are proof
[06:30] <balsaq> do want the ones that are not installed too
[06:30] <flying_penguin> Flannel: oh, your right echo dosnt literaly interperit the sting
[06:30] <Flannel> flying_penguin: Only with -e
[06:30] <flying_penguin> i just tryed it
[06:30] <flying_penguin> but it should
[06:30] <flying_penguin> oh well
[06:31] <Axess_Denied> what are you using for a/c?
[06:31] <Axess_Denied> *a/v?
[06:31] <DigitalKiwi> you are right on a general concept of single quotes but not in this instance ;p
[06:31] <flying_penguin> im used to writing C
[06:32] <flying_penguin> but really echo should follow the standard
[06:32] <balsaq> Axess_denied: ok got it now...lot of em in there under flash
[06:32] <balsaq> so get rid of the 3 you mentioned
[06:32] <balsaq> ?
[06:32] <flying_penguin> sed and grep properly phrase quoted stings
[06:33] <Axess_Denied> If they are clicked (check mark) remove them
[06:33] <Axess_Denied> Keep Flash Player 10
[06:34] <balsaq> Access_Denied: i am total dork newbie...when i uncheck them will the completetly disapper or will the still be in there but just unchecked, in case i need them later?
[06:34] <darksmac> hey guys just because i think it would be funny is there any music players from command line
[06:34] <emergion> I have dual monitor set up and wondering if anyone has figured out a way to get a differrent wallpaper for each monitor under ubuntu running gnome? Each monitors have a serperate resolution
[06:34] <DigitalKiwi> darksmac: yes
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> darksmac, music123
[06:34] <flying_penguin> darksmac: mplayer is the only meadia player i use
[06:34] <DigitalKiwi> ncmpcpp+mpd is the best
[06:35] <flying_penguin> or rather the one i use the most
[06:35] <darksmac> DigitalKiwi: cool !! he
[06:35] <mysteriousdarren> I have a more complicated question....what is a good debugger, compiler for programming in C++?
[06:35] <DigitalKiwi> http://omploader.org/vMjgyag
[06:35] <darksmac> DigitalKiwi: im trying to force myself to use only command line because of my new server
[06:35] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: they will stay there unchecked
[06:35] <DigitalKiwi> get htop
[06:35] <balsaq> Axess_Denied: if i uncheck then will their names still appear in there incase i want them back someday?
[06:35] <lstarnes> mysteriousdarren: the de facto standards are gdb for debugging with valgrind for profiling and gcc/g++ for c and c++ compiling
[06:36] <DigitalKiwi> that is the program in the top of that screen
[06:36] <Axess_Denied> They are in the repository, they will be there in the future
[06:36] <balsaq> Axcess_Denied: ok thanks my screen doesnt always roll up leaving me out of it for a moment thanks
[06:36] <flying_penguin> darksmac: deffinatly love the command line number 1 thing to do is learn to use gnu screen
[06:36] <lstarnes> mysteriousdarren: those are cli utlilties though, not full IDEs
[06:36] <balsaq> so i will just do the 3
[06:36] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: were they checked?
[06:37] <balsaq> looking
[06:37] <Axess_Denied> if not... you may have a driver issue. What kind of graphics card do youuse?
[06:37] <mysteriousdarren> what about kdevelop?
[06:37] <oddity> Has anyone compiled Tomato for a linksys>
[06:37] <oddity> ?
[06:37] <DigitalKiwi> why would you need to compile it?
[06:38] <darksmac> flyingpenguin: im pretty good on it now finally learned how to use "tty" screens
[06:38] <balsaq> Axcess_Denied: the only ones that are checked are macro, adobe and movie
[06:38] <oddity> you need to run make after you extract it
[06:38] <DigitalKiwi> gnu screen is awesome
[06:38] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: it may be a driver issue
[06:38] <darksmac> flyingpenguin: need more comfort knowing when to use sudo really trying to not sudo eerything
[06:38] <DigitalKiwi> i have tomato on my linksys i never had to compile anything...
[06:39] <darksmac> DigitalKiwi: lil to complicated for me
[06:39] <oddity> you never had to run make on it? is it above 1.23?
[06:39] <DigitalKiwi> darksmac: you use sudo only when you get permission denied ;)
[06:39] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: what graphics card do you have and what sound card?
[06:39] <DigitalKiwi> darksmac: what's too complicated?
[06:39] <flying_penguin> darksmac: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ its a pretty steep learning curve but once you get used to it you will wonder how you ever lived without it
[06:39] <Keiffer> hi. how can i make ssh to use files from other folder than ~/.ssh ? my /home get mounted AFTER i log in...
[06:39] <darksmac> DigitalKiwi: iono how to even start screen
[06:39] <DigitalKiwi> basics of screen are simple
[06:40] <darksmac> DigitalKiwi: can i dl it from aptget
[06:40] <sanchiro> how can I find the log file containing boot error messages, It flies by too fast during bootup, but I want to resolve any boot time issues. Where can I find this log file?
[06:40] <DigitalKiwi> ofc
[06:40] <lstarnes> darksmac: sudo apt-get install screen
[06:40] <paipimenta> when I'm at the most basic prompt in rescue mode (ls and such work), what editor can I use?
[06:40] <balsaq> Axess_Denied: 8mb ati and the sound was turtle neachmontego but when i wiped w98 clean and put in ubuntu i did not put the sound CD thing in, but my sound is great thru my altec lansings
[06:40] <Nimrod> sanchiro: look in /var/log
[06:40] <darksmac> DigitalKiwi: ok now say i wanted to start music 123 that i just dl
[06:41] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: I ran into SEVERE issues with my ATI HDMI setup, but my audio and video come through the same digital dat-stream
[06:41] <balsaq> Axcess_Denied: the only thing w98 did right on this puter was run youtube, so i know the puter itself can do it
[06:42] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: telling 'nix to do it is key though!
[06:42] <DigitalKiwi> screen program to start a program in it, or just screen then you are in it, ctrl+a d to detach, screen -R -D to reattach, ctrl+a + space/number/ctrl+a (to go to previous one) to change screen window, ctrl+a c to make a new window, uh...man screen for more
[06:42] <Axess_Denied> balsaq: can I pm you?
[06:42] <balsaq> Axess_Denied: sure
[06:43] <paipimenta> I'm in rescue mode and I've mounted my root at /mnt/lvroot... how do I find vi and run it manually? not being detected as a command in /bin/sh
[06:43] <paipimenta> gotta edit /grub/grub.conf
[06:43] <DigitalKiwi> didn't flannel say vim was installed by default?
[06:44] <paipimenta> omg
[06:44] <paipimenta> do you know what you're talking about or no?
[06:44] <sanchiro> Nimrod, any particular file I should examine? boot is empty.. bootstrap.log is populated, but it's not showing much..
[06:44] <DigitalKiwi> vim != vi
[06:44] <paipimenta> I am in a MINIMAL rescue mode prompt
[06:44] <flying_penguin> paipimenta: try /usr/bin/vi from command line. if that dosnt work try nano instead
[06:44] <Flannel> DigitalKiwi: It is.  vim-tiny anyway
[06:44] <paipimenta> DigitalKiwi: thanks for the clarification
[06:45] <DigitalKiwi> Flannel: what is vim-tiny?
[06:45] <sanchiro> Nimrod, would it be dmesg?
[06:45] <flying_penguin> I'll never understand why vim-tiny is packaged w/ ubuntu instead of vim-full
[06:45] <Flannel> DigitalKiwi: it's a stripped down version of vim, not much like vim at all
[06:45] <flying_penguin> that was a crappy desition
[06:45] <Nimrod> sanchiro: I was thinking of boot
[06:45] <Flannel> flying_penguin: just vim, not vim-full.  And because there's no reason for most people to have a full vim that they'll never use.
[06:45] <nomnex1> is it the place to ask for advice installing ubuntu on notebooks?
[06:46] <DigitalKiwi> Flannel: giggle, yet it comes by default with gnome ;D
[06:46] <flying_penguin> Flannel: theres no reason to put in a stripped down version when vim is already pretty small
[06:46] <paipimenta> so if root is mounted at /mnt/lvroot.... it'd be /mnt/lvroot/usr/bin/vi
[06:46] <Flannel> DigitalKiwi: not ubuntu-desktop though
[06:46] <flying_penguin> its not like the full version is going to swallow up much space
[06:46] <paipimenta> isn't vim and vi just the visual interface for an older tool?????
[06:46] <paipimenta> the exec prompt?
[06:47] <DigitalKiwi> Installed Size : 4936.00 K
[06:47] <DigitalKiwi> my vim
[06:47] <DigitalKiwi> dunno what ubuntus would be :/
[06:47] <flying_penguin> paipimenta: ed was the original text editor but vi was more than just a ed controller
[06:47] <paipimenta> when you push colon, that prompt is an old unix tool....
[06:47] <Nimrod> !ask | nomnex1
[06:47] <paipimenta> it wasn't ed, it was something else
[06:47] <Flannel> flying_penguin: vim is an extra 6.5MB
[06:48] <paipimenta> oh man, I deleted that O'Reilly vim book
[06:48] <flying_penguin> Flannel: thats less space than a mp3 of in-a-gadda-da-vitta
[06:48] <simonb_> hi guys... sorry if this Q is not quite ubuntu related... BUT: i'm tryin to expand my WEP protected wireless coverage with an AP under "repeater" mode... if i setup for the repeater other SSID, wireless area, that users can connect to, what happens with the "original WEP decryption" from the main AP?
[06:48] <Flannel> flying_penguin: You only get 700MB for the install CD, space is limited.
[06:48] <sanchiro> Nimrod, it says "nothing has been logged yet"
[06:48] <simonb_> do i need to use the same ancryption or what?
[06:49] <Nimrod> sanchiro: yeah, that's what mine says too - sorry.
[06:49] <Flannel> flying_penguin: That is, the Desktop CD
[06:49] <flying_penguin> if they are able to fit kde on some live cds then they could find space for vim
[06:49] <Flannel> flying_penguin: KDE goes in place of Gnome
[06:49] <flying_penguin> they are both bloted
[06:49] <Flannel> flying_penguin: Anyway, we've gotten offtopic, if you'd like to continue this discussion, I'd be glad to do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:50] <flying_penguin> Flannel: not a huge deal just blowing off some steam
[06:50] <chrome> woot, pidgin can connect to my corporate office communicator IM
[06:50] <paipimenta> Damn It was ex\
[06:50] <paipimenta> ex
[06:51] <flying_penguin> i cant tell you how many times i wanted vim when i was on an ubuntu livecd
[06:52] <nomnex1> sorry about it, Panasonic let's Note (notebook) CF-F8 or CF-F7, do all the functions works out of the box either with Ubuntu 9.04 or the future 9.10? I am currently on 9.04 on a older CF-W2 (year 2003). No FN key, Intel chipset problem, etc.
[06:52] <pallid> how many?
[06:52] <darksmac> any one in here got any experience setting wlan into ap mode
[06:53] <DigitalKiwi> darksmac: if you're going to be in cli a lot zsh is awesome
[06:53] <darksmac>  zsh?
[06:54] <DigitalKiwi> alternative shell
[06:54] <DigitalKiwi> has much better tab completion and other perks over bash
[06:54] <DigitalKiwi> faster too iirc
[06:54] <darksmac> o0o0
[06:55] <darksmac> ok
[06:55] <darksmac> mebe ill try it
[06:55] <flying_penguin> bash has a much better context for scriping
[06:55] <darksmac> i just started playing with screen
[06:55] <darksmac> still getting used to it
[06:55] <mgmuscari> can anybody tell me what the deal with the following fsck output is:
[06:55] <darksmac> not bad though
[06:55] <mgmuscari> http://paste.ubuntu.com/281886/
[06:55] <pipegeek_> wonderful thing, screen
[06:55] <mgmuscari> all my partitions are clean and mounted...
[06:55] <flying_penguin> and bash can be configured to tab compleat just like zsh but i cant say i would want it it on my comp
[06:56] <Boohbah> flying_penguin: bash is in fact configured to tab-complete by default
[06:56] <DigitalKiwi> i doubt you can get every feature of zshs tab completion in bash, and even getting some of its defaults in bash would be hairy at best
[06:56] <Keiffer> guys, what key/keys do i need from ssh folders to use to connect from another machine?
[06:56] <Boohbah> DigitalKiwi: is zsh's tab-completion different from bash's?
[06:56] <nomnex1> nobody on a Sony/Thoshiba/Panasonic notebook here? I am curiouse if you can use FN keys, wireless and if you don't have trouble with graphic card
[06:56] <DigitalKiwi> Boohbah: yes
[06:56] <pipegeek> also I've grown fond of autocd
[06:57] <Keiffer> the host priv/pub key pair or the user pair?
[06:57] <Boohbah> Keiffer: .ssh/id_{d,r}sa.pub
[06:57] <Keiffer> Boohbah, I don't know why, but I am using the piravte key to connect
[06:57] <Boohbah> Keiffer: you accept the host key from the host the first time you connect, you authenticate using your personal public key
[06:57] <DigitalKiwi> http://friedcpu.wordpress.com/2007/07/24/zsh-the-last-shell-youll-ever-need/
[06:57] <DigitalKiwi> read that and be enlightened
[06:57] <Boohbah> Keiffer: copy the public key to the remote host
[06:58] <KoolD> hey guys just wanted to know something...if i press ctrl+z when a console application is running, does the application stop or is it just hidden in the background and keeps working?
[06:58] <darksmac> hto you reattach screen
[06:58] <DigitalKiwi> screen -R -D
[06:58] <pipegeek> KoolD: the application gets SIGSTOP
[06:58] <darksmac> o00
[06:58] <Keiffer> Boohbah, why can I still connect with the private key??
[06:58] <flying_penguin> KoolD: C+z freezes the process
[06:58] <Keiffer> on putty
[06:58] <pipegeek> which means it stops running until you background it (by typing 'bg') or bring it back into the foreground
[06:59] <DigitalKiwi> well there are several ways to reattach but that is the way a lot of people like best
[06:59] <flying_penguin> it is not running but can be resumed in the forground or the background
[06:59] <DigitalKiwi> including the author
[06:59] <mgmuscari> oh, i guess this is just an outdated /etc/fstab
[07:00] <Boohbah> Keiffer: the private key stays on your local machine
[07:00] <mgmuscari> i don't want to mount that partition anyway... problem solved
[07:00] <KoolD> fkying_penguin: is there a way to just hide the process in the background...or is there other way running ncurses applications from ssh using different pc's
[07:00] <darksmac> how do i completly exit it im accidently runniny 2 screen sessions at one time
[07:00] <sterlin> whats the latest 3gs 3.1 baseband?
[07:00] <pipegeek> darksmac, as in, one inside the other?
[07:00] <pipegeek> just ^D out of the inner one
[07:00] <flying_penguin> KoolD: if running the process from the comand line you can just issue the command with an & after it
[07:01] <mgmuscari> i just came up with an idea for something i want to do - take a small partition on my hdd and put DSL on it
[07:01] <flying_penguin> or you can Ctr-z then type bg to daemonize the program
[07:01] <darksmac> no 2 side by side i started one then detached then started another
[07:01] <mgmuscari> so that i can have a really fast boot time linux when i need it
[07:01] <mgmuscari> anybody else run a setup like that?
[07:01] <sterlin> Does anyone know?
[07:01] <mgmuscari> wondering how useful it actually is...
[07:01] <KoolD> flying_penguin: so typing bg... restarts the app
[07:01] <Boohbah> mgmuscari: no, but you can make any linux boot fast
[07:01] <mysteriousdarren> what exactly?
[07:02] <pipegeek> darksmac, well, to get rid of the one you're not attached to, open another terminal, type 'screen -ls' to list the running sessions, then "screen -x <session id>" to connect to the one you want
[07:02] <pipegeek> then just ^D out of it
[07:02] <sterlin> mysteriousdarren: what the latest 3gs baseband is
[07:02] <mgmuscari> sterlin: i think this is the wrong place to ask about iphone support... i did jailbreak 3.1 on my 3G last night, though
[07:02] <Boohbah> mgmuscari: http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/
[07:02] <flying_penguin> KoolD: it unfreezed the app in the background
[07:02] <darksmac> ok
[07:02] <flying_penguin> fg unfreezes it in the forground
[07:02] <sterlin> mgmuscari: oops my bad wrong channel
[07:02] <KoolD> flying_penguin: ok....thanks
[07:03] <mgmuscari> Boohbah: interesting article
[07:03] <darksmac> 1 last thing how to i close a bash window
[07:03] <darksmac> 1 screen like 4 "
[07:03] <DigitalKiwi> exit?
[07:03] <pipegeek> darksmac, as a sidenote, it makes it less confusing to manage multiple simultaneous screen sessions if you name them.  That is, you can create a screen session with "screen -S someSessionName" and then connect to it later with "screen -x someSessionName"
[07:03] <mysteriousdarren> oh
[07:03] <darksmac> ok
[07:03] <pipegeek> darksmac, type 'exit' or hit control-d
[07:04] <flying_penguin> darksmac: exit will close out the term but you can just x out of the window and screen will keep the session running
[07:04] <DigitalKiwi> detach first
[07:05] <pipegeek> DigitalKiwi, is that strictly necessary?
[07:05] <darksmac> thats nice getting the hang o fit
[07:05] <darksmac> it
[07:05] <pipegeek> :)
[07:05] <DigitalKiwi> it's not necessary but you should
[07:05] <pipegeek> y zat
[07:05] <darksmac> now i need to work on my typing if imma be typing all day
[07:05] <pipegeek> hh
[07:05] <mgmuscari> if i just extract DSL to a small partition and point grub at it, do you think it would work? (anybody)
[07:05] <pipegeek> *heh
[07:05] <DigitalKiwi> mgmuscari: no
[07:06] <albertxiaoyu> I have a problem
[07:06] <mgmuscari> i mean the distrobution that they put on usb drives
[07:06] <mgmuscari> hm
[07:06] <flying_penguin> pipegeek: screen used to have problems with crashing if it detached improperly but i havent had that happen since red hat 7
[07:06] <pipegeek> aaah
[07:06] <pipegeek> good to know
[07:06] <mgmuscari> DigitalKiwi: any particular reason it wouldn't? i'm not so much of a systems guy...
[07:07] <pipegeek> mgmuscari, I don't know what's in the dsl blob, but if it's a complete system image, I don't know why it wouldn't work
[07:07] <mgmuscari> pipegeek: that's what i was thinking
[07:07] <DigitalKiwi> it leaves programs running in it hanging waiting for input or something...like irssi is the example i've been told
[07:07] <pipegeek> so long as you configure grub right
[07:07] <mgmuscari> there's an image you can download and pop onto a thumbdrive; it's like 50mb
[07:08] <paipimenta> speaking of configuring grub.......
[07:08] <mgmuscari> DigitalKiwi: how do you mean? because it's not booting off of a pen drive?
[07:08] <pipegeek> oh, as in a bootable disk image?  Yeah, so just dd it into the partition and then chainload it from grub
[07:08] <paipimenta> I'm trying to finalize moving my /home to a new logical volume
[07:08] <DigitalKiwi> i wish i could get deli linux working in Vbox :(
[07:08] <paipimenta> I followed a fedora howto (since I had F11 on my pc a week ago) and I can't find grub.conf
[07:08] <paipimenta> http://fedorasolved.org/Members/zcat/a-new-home/a-new-home
[07:08] <pipegeek> dd is dangerous stuff, though---make sure your partition's big enough so you don't accidentally write past the end
[07:09] <Docteh> !grub
[07:09] <mgmuscari> yeah it's about 300 mb
[07:09] <mgmuscari> dsl should be like 50mb
[07:09] <pipegeek> paipimenta, check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:09] <flying_penguin> paipimenta: fedora and ubuntu usualy use a file named menu.lst instead of grub.conf
[07:09] <albertxiaoyu> Is anyone can  give some help ?
[07:09] <DigitalKiwi> deli uses pacman though for package management
[07:09] <paipimenta> menu.lst!!! perfect....
[07:09] <DigitalKiwi> which is instant win
[07:09] <mgmuscari> hmmm would i have to set the boot flag?
[07:09] <pipegeek> albertxiaoyu, ask your question
[07:09] <mgmuscari> no, right, because i'm chainloading...
[07:10] <pipegeek> mgmuscari, zackly
[07:10] <Guest85955> ...
[07:10] <flying_penguin> alot of ppl swear by pac man
[07:10] <DigitalKiwi> flying_penguin: for good reason
[07:10] <pipegeek> what's so cool about pacman?  don't know squat about arch
[07:11] <liberion> anyone here?
[07:11] <Guest85955> here
[07:11] <pipegeek> yo
[07:11] <DigitalKiwi> i don't want to get yelled at :( but check their wiki or /msg me or join their channel
[07:11] <flying_penguin> the best package management software i ever used was portage but the developers screwed that up years ago
[07:11] <darksmac> hey guys im currently running ubuntu-sever i installed with 2.6.28-11 but did a dist-upgrade to 2.6.28-15 but when i boot i cant see my 2.6.28-15 on the grub boot menu any ideas on how to fix this
[07:11] <pipegeek> :`(
[07:11] <mgmuscari> i'm not sure i feel comfortable using dd to do this
[07:11] <mgmuscari> hm
[07:12] <flying_penguin> mgmuscari: careful with dd
[07:12] <DigitalKiwi> just do a standard install
[07:12] <darksmac> i run uname -r and it still says 2.6.28-11
[07:12] <Guest85955> 안녕
[07:12] <pipegeek> mgmuscari, just do: "sudo dd if=<disk image> of=/dev/sda5" or whatever
[07:12] <inertial> flying_penguin: could you use portage to build cross platform tools?
[07:12] <pipegeek> nothing wrong with using dd
[07:12] <albertxiaoyu> How to use gcc to write assembly languages ?
[07:12] <mgmuscari> right, just makes me nervous :D
[07:12] <mgmuscari> lol
[07:12] <liberion> im setting up an apache web server and inserted my files into /var/www/ but i cant see them,what do i need to do??
[07:12] <mgmuscari> my /home is right after this partition...
[07:12] <pipegeek> you can screw things up with it, but you can also screw things up with, like, a hammer
[07:13] <Guest85955> はじめましで
[07:13] <pipegeek> hehe
[07:13] <prince_jammys> i generally screw things with a screwdriver
[07:13] <mgmuscari> right so i'm hammering a nail into the wall next to my priceless work of art
[07:13] <flying_penguin> inertial: i only ever used portage with source packages so it was pretty easy to set up cross compiling (although thats never the most reliable method)
[07:13] <pipegeek> I prefer a socket wrench
[07:13] <Guest85955> 我是
[07:13] <pipegeek> haha
[07:13] <mgmuscari> pipegeek: i second that, i feel more comfortable under my car
[07:13] <pipegeek> :)
[07:14] <inertial> flying_penguin: back when i used gentoo i only ever set up portage to build stuff for my system.. not for cross platform tools.... just was wondering if it was possible
[07:14] <Guest85955> 谢谢
[07:14] <kielanmatt> hey
[07:14] <flying_penguin> inertial: it can be done but i would avoid it for the most part
[07:14] <kielanmatt> why doesnt my kernel upgrade to 31 from 27
[07:14] <kielanmatt> ???
[07:14] <Guest85955> who?
[07:14] <inertial> albertxiaoyu: you can just specify the assembly file on the command line
[07:14] <kielanmatt> cause i jsut went up to karmic
[07:15] <Boohbah> kielanmatt: /join #ubuntu+1
[07:15] <kielanmatt> cause my nvidia drivers couldnt instal
[07:15] <albertxiaoyu> ?
[07:15] <Boohbah> kielanmatt: there is no karmic support in this channel
[07:15] <Boohbah> kielanmatt: until the end of the month
[07:15] <kielanmatt> yeah
[07:15] <kielanmatt> but it happened on jaunty
[07:16] <Guest85955> how many chatting channel exist in this server?
[07:16] <Jyxt> does anyone use audacity?
[07:16] <Guest85955> who know
[07:16] <Boohbah> Guest85955: type /list to find out
[07:16] <lobak> hello
[07:16] <jussi01> Guest85955: #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps
[07:16] <mgmuscari> hey, can't i specify a maximum number of blocks to write with dd?
[07:16] <mgmuscari> using count or something
[07:16] <Aalinux> !hello
[07:16] <pipegeek> kielanmatt, to my knowledge, the most recent kernel in jaunty is .27
[07:16] <Aalinux> !ext4
[07:16] <flying_penguin> Jyxt: my whole famly used audacity exept for me
[07:16] <pipegeek> mgmuscari, you totally can
[07:16] <kielanmatt> but i cant build a dkms!!
[07:16] <Aalinux> !codec
[07:17] <mgmuscari> pipegeek: that would make me feel comfortable.
[07:17] <pipegeek> mgmuscari, dd if=foo of=/dev/whatever bs=1M count=1024
[07:17] <Boohbah> mgmuscari: yes, count=BLOCKS
[07:17] <kielanmatt> and nvidia keeps being gay about it
[07:17] <pipegeek> or whatever :)
[07:17] <jussi01> mgmuscari: Im pretty sure you can, man dd for more
[07:17] <mgmuscari> jussi01: yep :p
[07:17] <kisuke> jyxt on windoze or *buntu?
[07:17] <lobak> im trying to install ircd-hybrid from ubuntu apt-get..how can i enable openssl when installing with apt-get ? I've tried search on google, but i can't get the answer
[07:17] <kielanmatt> i cant run
[07:17] <pipegeek> (bs == block size == the above transfers 1024 megabytes)
[07:17] <kielanmatt> how do i do it
[07:17] <kielanmatt> cause there are no packages
[07:17] <kielanmatt> for a dkms build for the
[07:17] <kielanmatt> for me
[07:18] <Jyxt> kisuke: on ubuntu 9.04
[07:18] <Jyxt> kisuke: having an issue recording from line-in
[07:18] <mgmuscari> done
[07:18] <mgmuscari> now to grub...
[07:18] <pipegeek> sweet
[07:19] <kielanmatt> sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) IT DOESNT WORK
[07:19] <kisuke> jyxt i ran it on win vista 32 havent gotten my good PC back from shop to up grade to ubuntu, i'll try and help though
[07:19] <pipegeek> mgmuscari, should have mentioned it earlier, but if all you want to do is play around with dsl, it might be easier and more convenient to use the KVM virtual machine
[07:19] <flying_penguin> Jyxt: had that problem befor. it took a bit of work to get it running
[07:19] <Jyxt> kisuke: all the googling ive done tells me to simply change the drop down in audicty to my sound source...but i *have no* drop down for the audacity mixer
[07:19] <kielanmatt> E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.27-7-generic
[07:19] <kielanmatt> sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) IT DOESNT WORK
[07:19] <kielanmatt> sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) IT DOESNT WORK
[07:19] <FloodBot3> kielanmatt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <pipegeek> I've had good luck with it in jaunty, even though it's still under heavy development
[07:19] <flying_penguin> check the volume and system mixer
[07:19] <Jyxt> but i can hear the sounde source just fine...its playing now
[07:19] <pipegeek> that way, no need for a dedicated partition or to reboot
[07:20] <inertial> albertxiaoyu: what is your target architecture?
[07:20] <flying_penguin> make sure audacity is reading the proper channel and is not muting the input
[07:20] <mgmuscari> meh, i don't remember how to get the uuid and stuff
[07:21] <Flannel> mgmuscari: sudo blkid
[07:21] <Jyxt> flying_penguin: how do i do that...theres no option for input?...in preferencs i can set the playback/recording devices...ive cycled thru all the recording devices, still no drop down for the mixer
[07:21] <kisuke> jyxt sounds like a config problem, are you useing asla?
[07:21] <Jyxt> kisuke: yes
[07:21] <mgmuscari> lol oh, i see
[07:21] <mgmuscari> since i wrote block data to that partition...
[07:21] <flying_penguin> Jyxt: i dont remember exactly you just need to search through the audacity settings
[07:21] <pipegeek> changes the uuid, ja :)
[07:22] <ashok__> i want a website 2 download upuntu thems and games will any one help me out
[07:22] <mgmuscari> instead of a UUID, it has LABEL="KNOPPIX" TYPE="iso9660"
[07:22] <mgmuscari> can i point grub at that?
[07:22] <flying_penguin> Jyxt: also if you are useing pulse audio i would suggest un-installing it and useing alsa instead
[07:22] <mgmuscari> O_o i've never come up against pointing it at an iso imaged partition before...
[07:22] <prince_jammys> !themes > ashok__
[07:22] <pipegeek> you can also point grub just at (hd0,4) or whatever
[07:23] <Boohbah> flying_penguin: funny that ubuntu has been pushing pulseaudio for the last year but it hasn't worked for anyone ever
[07:23] <ashok__> i want a link
[07:23] <mgmuscari> pipegeek: do i have to set the boot flag on that partition then?
[07:23] <prince_jammys> ashok__: ubottu sent you links.
[07:23] <flying_penguin> Boohbah: its getting better but its still not what i would call stable software
[07:24] <pipegeek> no, shouldn't have to.  That said, I didn't realize it was an iso image---I'm not sure if it will load properly out of a hdd partition.  I thought this was a flash image
[07:24] <flying_penguin> Boohbah: i expect that kind of thing from fedora but ubuntu?
[07:24] <pipegeek> I mean, try it
[07:24] <mgmuscari> yeah, i didn't think it'd be a cd iso either
[07:24] <mgmuscari> weird
[07:24] <kisuke> jyxt one min google is being slow
[07:25] <mgmuscari> i guess i'll use rootnoverify
[07:25] <pipegeek> but if you just want to run the thing in a vm, "kvm -d path/to/iso -boot d"
[07:25] <pipegeek> cool
[07:25] <mgmuscari> i forget how to get the grub hard disk index
[07:25] <mgmuscari> like (hd0,0)
[07:25] <pipegeek> /boot/grub/device.map
[07:25] <mgmuscari> ah
[07:25] <mgmuscari> thanks
[07:25] <pipegeek> np
[07:26] <elxtogatox> hello.... somebody that can help me
[07:26] <mgmuscari> well, that gave me (hd0) /dev/sda, of course... but i have a lot of partitions
[07:26] <Jyxt> kisuke: take your time...messing around with JACK to see if that helps
[07:26] <mgmuscari> say i have sda7, would that always be (hd0,6)?
[07:26] <pipegeek>  /dev/sda1 should translate to (hd0,0) if I'm not mistaken
[07:26] <pipegeek> yeah
[07:26] <mgmuscari> i'll try it..
[07:26] <pipegeek> kk
[07:26] <elxtogatox> hello.. I need help :(
[07:27] <pipegeek> elxtogatox, ask your question :)
[07:27] <elxtogatox> thanks... sorry my language... is a not perfect english
[07:27] <mgmuscari> do i need the chainloader directive?
[07:27] <kisuke> jyxt help> about what is the verson of your port audio? (not sure i spelled that right)
[07:27] <flying_penguin> mgmuscari: if the hd num is higher than 4 that would mean it is a logical instead of extended partition and probably wont be 0,6
[07:27] <pempob> haloooooooooo
[07:27] <elxtogatox> I tell you...
[07:27] <pipegeek> mgmuscari, if you want it to jump into the DSL image's bootloader, then yes
[07:27] <mgmuscari> yeah it's a logical partition
[07:27] <flying_penguin> sory switch logical and extenden
[07:27] <Jyxt> kisuke: portaudio v19
[07:27] <pipegeek> mgmuscari, you either need a chainloader directive or to tell it where to find the kernel itself, and the latter option is not available to you here
[07:28] <paipimenta> oh man, how the hell do I edit this menu.lst file?? all I can use is cat, echo....
[07:28] <elxtogatox> I have a motherboard Via KM400... I was find the driver to this Chipset in google but nothing...
[07:28] <elxtogatox> and my resolution is 800x600 and this i dont' like it
[07:28] <pipegeek> paipimenta, nano is a pretty easy-to-use text editor
[07:28] <mgmuscari> paipimenta: do you have sed by any chance?
[07:28] <kisuke> jyxt try http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Mixer_Toolbar_Issues#Linux-specific_issues
[07:28] <pipegeek> oh
[07:28] <pipegeek> ehehe
[07:29] <ak_> ah
[07:29] <paipimenta> I booted from the install DVD to recovery/rescue mode
[07:29] <mgmuscari> cat menu.lst | sed s/replacethis/withsomething/ > menu.lst
[07:29] <mgmuscari> :p
[07:29] <paipimenta> so I'm in a minimal prompt
[07:29] <flying_penguin> paipimenta: nano is easy vim is good and if you don't know exactly what you are doing dont use sed
[07:29] <elxtogatox> in last days... i was modifing the xorg.conf but ... my pc dead xD
[07:29] <paipimenta> nice!
[07:29] <mgmuscari> flying_penguin: very true
[07:29] <mgmuscari> paipimenta: don't use sed
[07:29] <pipegeek> vim is *lovely* but a pain in the ass to learn
[07:29] <elxtogatox> pipegeek you talk spanish??
[07:29] <paipimenta> cat menu.lst | sed s/lv_root/lvroot/ > menu.lst
[07:30] <Jyxt> kisuke: hrm...all i really want to do is digitize my record colletion..make em mp3's, heard from someone else that audacity is teh easiest way to do this
[07:30] <prince_jammys> nice way of probably truncating the file
[07:30] <paipimenta> yeah.... the vim learning curve is gradually flattening out finally
[07:30] <elxtogatox> paipimenta you talk spanish?
[07:30] <pipegeek> un poquito.  Pero hay un canal en espanol
[07:30] <Jyxt> but its turning out *not* to be the easiest way, know of another solution that can record from line-inand save as mp3?
[07:30] <pipegeek> un momento
[07:30] <paipimenta> truncate? great...
[07:30] <mgmuscari> paipimenta: that would replace the first instance of lv_root on a line with lvroot
[07:30] <elxtogatox> can you tell me that channel :)
[07:30] <darksmac> nano for me
[07:30] <Jyxt> kisuke: thanks for the link though...will look into it
[07:30] <paipimenta> yeah, but this is Portuguese
[07:30] <prince_jammys> nah, it would likely truncate the file to zero bytes.
[07:31] <paipimenta> brazilian wife
[07:31] <kisuke> jyxt it is i've done it, do you have pulse audio?
[07:31] <pipegeek> elxtogatox, #ubuntu-es :)
[07:31] <paipimenta> :-D
[07:31] <elxtogatox> thanks :)
[07:31] <pipegeek> np
[07:31] <flying_penguin> darksmac: if you are going to be a serious terminal juckie you will switch to vim eventualy
[07:31] <Jyxt> kisuke: i had it, just uninstalled it per flying_penguin's recommendation
[07:31] <Jyxt> think it was him
[07:31] <darksmac> flying_penguin: damn  so confusing
[07:32] <paipimenta> mgmuscari: what's wrong with that?
[07:32] <mano> i want a website 2 download upuntu thems and games
[07:32] <kisuke> jyxt have you tryed disableing systemsounds in gnome?
[07:32] <paipimenta> I just need to change the kernel root= names for the root logical volume I changed
[07:32] <mano> will any one help me out
[07:32] <darksmac> flying_penguin: can you print file from command line took me about a 1000000 hrs to set up printer but i still dont know how to use
[07:32] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: open the file with a text editor and edit them.
[07:32] <mgmuscari> i'm going to see if my mad experiment worked...
[07:32] <mgmuscari> be back in a few
[07:32] <pipegeek> darksmac, "vimtutor" is a good jumping off point
[07:32] <pipegeek> just type that at the command line
[07:32] <darksmac> cool
[07:33] <pipegeek> most important thing to know: you quit by typing ":q<enter>"
[07:33] <pipegeek> ;)
[07:33] <mano> i want any link 2 download upuntu thems
[07:33] <kfizz> Quick Q: How can I grep only files, aka ignore all directories?
[07:33] <flying_penguin> darksmac: i havent delt with that much myself but i would start by reading about cups (common unix printing system) and look for a good comand line controller for that
[07:33] <kisuke> mano look in synaptc for themes
[07:33] <darksmac> thank you very much
[07:34] <pipegeek> flying_penguin, just type "lpr filename.ps"
[07:34] <pipegeek> if you have cups-bsd installed
[07:34] <mano> then for games
[07:34] <pipegeek> err, darksmac
[07:34] <kisuke> !themes > kisuke
[07:35] <darksmac> ooo ok
[07:35] <darksmac> can i print man files
[07:35] <paipimenta> prince_jammys: oh wow man, why didn't I think of that???
[07:35] <DigitalKiwi> yeah
[07:35] <pipegeek> well, you probably want to either convert them to plaintext first or to postscript
[07:35] <pipegeek> and there's doubtless an easy way to do that
[07:35] <pipegeek> hold on
[07:35] <paipimenta> too bad I'm in recovery mode and I have no editor
[07:35] <darksmac> and just so you know im stuck in vim
[07:35] <darksmac> hah
[07:35] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: beats me. sounds like a good idea.
[07:35] <darksmac> i lol at myself
[07:35] <paipimenta> not even ed
[07:36] <kfizz> Quick Q: How can I grep only files, aka ignore all directories?
[07:36] <pipegeek> darksmac: check it out: "man foo | lpr"
[07:36] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: you're in busybox?
[07:36] <pipegeek> where foo is the name of the man page
[07:36] <ArkoldThos> someone got chromium with flash?
[07:36] <paipimenta> there we go, yes
[07:36] <pipegeek> I think that should work
[07:36] <paipimenta> busybox
[07:36] <flying_penguin> darksmac: esc then :q
[07:36] <ajhtiredwolf> ArkoldThos, yes i have it
[07:36] <kisuke> mano see my last message also try google "linux games" (without the quotes) that should give you a couple starting points
[07:36] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: if you use the sed command, use a temp file.
[07:36] <pipegeek> if it doesn't, then try "lpr <(man foo)"
[07:36] <flying_penguin> or :q! (that will not save the file)
[07:36] <geirha> kfizz: find . -type f -exec grep "pattern" {} +
[07:36] <DigitalKiwi> darksmac: PAGER=cat man something > somethingman.txt
[07:36] <DigitalKiwi> then print it
[07:36] <ArkoldThos> ajhtiredwolf, how you got it working with flash? i copy pasted the plugin in the plugins folder of chromium
[07:36] <paipimenta> goddamn Colloquy with no message history!!
[07:36] <ArkoldThos> and started it as --enable-plugins
[07:37] <paipimenta> :-(
[07:37] <ArkoldThos> but nothing :/
[07:37] <ajhtiredwolf> ArkoldThos, I had already installed flash through firefox, and using the dev build it automatically worked
[07:37] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: sed 's/foo/bar/' menu.lst > tmp && mv tmp menu.lst # or better yet, look at the file first before moving it.
[07:37] <andruk> i deleted a theme in appearance-properties but it didnt go away, even when i close and reopen appearance-properties.  how do i remove it?
[07:37] <ajhtiredwolf> ArkoldThos, are you sure you are using the latest build?
[07:37] <newabz> hello..
[07:37] <mgmuscari> hmmm, it gave me something about an invalid device
[07:37] <mgmuscari> error 12 i think
[07:37] <newabz> i need basic help for ubuntu.. who can help me..
[07:38] <mgmuscari> newabz: ask your question
[07:38] <paipimenta> cat menu.lst | sed s/lv_root/lvroot/ > temp.file
[07:38] <kisuke> newabz what do you need?
[07:38] <prince_jammys> no cat needed
[07:38] <prince_jammys> but sure
[07:38] <paipimenta> then how do I get it to write to menu.lst, just mv temp.file menu.lst
[07:38] <newabz> i want to install ubuntu.. just downloading it..
[07:38] <ajhtiredwolf> newabz, ask a specifical question and maybe :P
[07:38] <darksmac> still stuck lucky im in screen
[07:38] <paipimenta> welcome home, newabz! :-D
[07:38] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: perhaps the busybox sed can edits file in place with the -i option.
[07:38] <newabz> i wanted to know if i caould burn it on a rewritable dvd n install it. is it possible ?
[07:38] <pipegeek> paipimenta, you can also do "sed -i 's/lv_root/lvroot/' menu.lst" if you're really daring
[07:38] <mano> i want flash games will it work on upuntu
[07:39] <pipegeek> which performs the changes in place
[07:39] <ajhtiredwolf> newabz, ....yes
[07:39] <ajhtiredwolf> mano, yes
[07:39] <mgmuscari> newabz: sure, why not?
[07:39] <darksmac> never mind got it
[07:39] <newabz> thanks..i got some more questions.. be back in some time.. thanks
[07:39] <ajhtiredwolf> newabz, there are extensive instructions to installing ubuntu o the main page
[07:39] <ActionParsnip1> ArkoldThos: sudo cp /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[07:39] <kisuke> newabz yes but it will fit on a CD
[07:39] <kfizz> geirha: I replaced "pattern" with what I'm searching for, but no results come up, though grep "pattern" does work. Am I missing something?
[07:39] <mgmuscari> newabz: as long as you burn the iso image to disc and not the iso file you're good
[07:39] <newabz> yeah.. but its all given for cd .. nothing abt dvd has been mentioned
[07:39] <flying_penguin> darksmac: in vim press esc to make exit insert or whatever mode you are int then press : so you can issue a command and press q! to quit vim without saving any changes
[07:39] <mgmuscari> newabz: same thing, really
[07:39] <ActionParsnip1> ArkoldThos: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/07/how-to-enable-flash-support-for.html
[07:40] <kisuke> newabz also before installing try in live CD mode first
[07:40] <newabz> i am new.. ..thnx
[07:40] <flying_penguin> then enter to issue the command
[07:40] <ajhtiredwolf> newabz, its the same thing
[07:40] <darksmac> cool i exited now im looking at vimtutor as sugested
[07:40] <mgmuscari> kisuke: newabz that's a good point
[07:40] <kisuke> newabz np we all were once
[07:40] <geirha> kfizz: Sounds like you're missing files who's content contains the pattern you're after
[07:40] <ajhtiredwolf> not me, i was born knowing how to use linux
[07:40] <mgmuscari> newabz: you can run it directly off the cd under windows if you want, i think, or you can boot from the cd and run it without installing it to disk
[07:40] <flying_penguin> ive never used vimtutor how is it?
[07:41]  * ActionParsnip1 was birthed mid-kernel compile
[07:41] <kfizz> Sorry geirha, I'm just greping file names, not contents of files
[07:41] <prince_jammys> flying_penguin: it's a joy.
[07:41] <paipimenta> brb.... making love 8-o
[07:41] <geirha> flying_penguin: It's great, it teaches you basic vim
[07:41] <flying_penguin> btw make sure you are using the vim-full package not the vim-tiny
[07:41] <flying_penguin> i think that was already mentioned
[07:41] <ajhtiredwolf> ActionParsnip1, haha good one
[07:41] <Mazhar> hello
[07:41] <darksmac> how can i check version
[07:41] <pipegeek> howdyt
[07:41] <Mazhar> I have  a prob
[07:41] <geirha> kfizz: find -type f -name "*foo*"  # files with foo in the name
[07:41] <Mazhar> recently I downloaded Ubuntu hardy
[07:42] <Mazhar> I dont a disk burner
[07:42] <flying_penguin> darksmac: if you apt-get install vim-full that will wipe out vim-tiny if it is installed
[07:42] <ajhtiredwolf> Mazhar, have a USB flash drive?
[07:42] <Mazhar> so I use daemon tools to mount the iso images
[07:42] <kfizz> geirha, thanks. Never used find before,
[07:42] <ActionParsnip1> Mazhar: got a 1Gb usb stick spare (or higher)
[07:42] <mgmuscari> Mazhar: why did you go for 8.04?
[07:42] <Mazhar> because its LTS
[07:42] <mgmuscari> Mazhar: good point
[07:42] <kisuke> darksmac <appname> -version usually works
[07:42] <Mazhar> so when try to install it using wubi
[07:43] <Mazhar> it starts downloading files
[07:43] <pipegeek> darksmac, also, "dpkg -s vim-full" will tell you if it's there
[07:43] <ActionParsnip1> Mazhar: you dont need daemontools to use the iso with wubi afaik
[07:43] <Mazhar> although I already have the iso
[07:43] <Mazhar> mm action
[07:43] <Mazhar> but why it starts downloading??
[07:43] <Mazhar> when I already have the iso
[07:43] <mano> where can i find flash games for upuntu
[07:43] <mgmuscari> Mazhar: you could probably also find a way to put it on a USB drive if you wanted
[07:43] <Mazhar> well
[07:43] <mgmuscari> mano: flash games are generally found on the internet...
[07:44] <Mazhar> well I dont know where I put my flash drive :D
[07:44] <mgmuscari> mano: flash player under 64 bit linux is kind of wonky sometimes
[07:44] <ajhtiredwolf> mano, they are universal
[07:44] <Mazhar> so can anyone help me??
[07:44] <Guest85846> hi
[07:44] <ActionParsnip1> Mazhar: if you put the iso in the same folder as wubi.exe it will be used
[07:44] <pipegeek> sad but true
[07:44] <ajhtiredwolf> mano, not specific to a certain OS
[07:44] <Mazhar> no its in the same folder
[07:44] <Guest85846> how to enable bootlogging?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip1> Mazhar: make sure you md5 check both files to minimise issues
[07:44] <Mazhar> whats that??
[07:44] <ActionParsnip1> !md5 | Mazhar
[07:44] <mano> 2 upuntu
[07:45] <Mazhar> thnx looking for that
[07:45] <indus> hi
[07:45] <ActionParsnip1> Mazhar: here are the hashes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[07:45] <Guest85846> i did: sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd and BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No
[07:45] <ActionParsnip1> Mazhar: you have no guaruntee those files are good at all, MD5 lets you test
[07:45] <pipegeek> Guest85846, not sure what you mean; boot messages should already be being logged to /var/log/boot.log
[07:46] <ActionParsnip1> Mazhar: if the MD5sums are different, the file is bad and needs redownloading
[07:46] <pipegeek> I lied
[07:46] <Guest85846> but the content of bootlog is only:(Nothing has been logged yet.)
[07:46] <Mazhar> ok thnx alot guys
[07:46] <ArkoldThos> ActionParsnip1, done that, still not working
[07:46] <ActionParsnip1> Guest85846: dmesg | less
[07:46] <Mazhar> I am checking it right away
[07:46] <Guest85846> ok try it
[07:46] <pipegeek> /var/log/messages; /var/log/kern.log
[07:46] <ActionParsnip1> ArkoldThos: if there is a ~/.chromium/plugins folder   link it in there too
[07:46] <pipegeek> also what ActionParsnip1 said
[07:47] <ArkoldThos> okay :)
[07:47] <flying_penguin> goodnight all
[07:47] <Guest85846> there is sth showing up at that command.. (dmesg | less)
[07:47] <newabz> hi.. what do u mean by live cd mode ??
[07:48] <ActionParsnip1> ArkoldThos: or if its ~/.chrome   use fuzzy logic
[07:48] <ActionParsnip1> etc
[07:48] <mano> will they work in upuntu
[07:48] <pipegeek> ArkoldThos, are you using a 32-bit chromium on 64-bit ubuntu?
[07:48] <ActionParsnip1> mano: its ubuntu, not upuntu
[07:48] <pipegeek> shot in the dark
[07:48] <ArkoldThos> 64
[07:48] <kisuke> newabz when you boot the cd there is an option to test without installing that is liveCD mode
[07:48] <Mazhar> OH no man!!
[07:48] <Mazhar> the checksums are differnet
[07:49] <Mazhar> I think I will have to redownload it
[07:49] <Mazhar> anyway
[07:49] <ActionParsnip1> ArkoldThos: you could copy the beta 64bit flashplugin to the plugins folder
[07:49] <Mazhar> thnx alot guys!!!
[07:49] <ArkoldThos> ActionParsnip1, 64 bits one still doesn't support is or I will have to use ndiswrapper?
[07:49] <FloodBot3> Mazhar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <Guest85846> i dont have a var/log/messages but var/log/kern.log works
[07:49] <Guest85846> thx
[07:49] <ActionParsnip1> ArkoldThos: ndiswrapper is for network drivers, there is nspluginwrapper
[07:49] <Mazhar> I couldnt have dont it without you guys
[07:49] <Mazhar> thnx
[07:49] <Mazhar> *done
[07:49] <indus> ActionParsnip1: not beta, still an alpha, though it doesnt really mean anything, its as good /bad as the release version 32 bit
[07:50] <indus> any idea how to reduce jerkiness when full screen with flash
[07:50] <ActionParsnip1> indus: so it is, its still pretty awesome
[07:50] <ActionParsnip1> indus: got effects enabled?
[07:50] <indus> naah, i miss flash 9 so much
[07:51] <kermit> indus: maybe setting your cpu to performance from ondemand
[07:51] <indus> kermit: hmm really?
[07:51] <kisuke> does anyone know what the channel is for wine?
[07:51] <newabz> thanks kisuke
[07:51] <pipegeek> ArkoldThos, I'm using chromium with flash successfully at work.  That said, I'm using the 64-bit flash pre-alpha --- it's possible that chromium has some issue with the 64-bit wrapper around the 32-bit flash that ships with ubuntu amd64
[07:51] <ActionParsnip1> kisuke: #winehq
[07:51] <Guest85846> what does grub error 15 mean?
[07:51] <kisuke> newabz no problem
[07:51] <kermit> indus: right click on the task bar, add to panel, cpu freq thing, then click on it and change it
[07:51] <indus> kermit: ok thats my home system , i try it later
[07:52] <ActionParsnip1> ArkoldThos: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-<IP_ADDRESS>.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz extract the olnly file in it to the chromium plugins folder
[07:52] <kisuke> guest85846 it depends on how far grub loads
[07:52] <indus> kermit: in what way does that help?
[07:52] <Guest85846> there is sth. like: file not found
[07:52] <kermit> indus: maybe it wont.. but you can lock the cpu at full speed so it probably will
[07:52] <indus> Guest85846: ya it cant find the grub stage 1
[07:52] <kisuke> guest 85846 on mi and i will get you the error list
[07:52] <indus> kermit: okie
[07:52] <ActionParsnip1> Guest85846: http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html
[07:52] <indus> kermit: any other tweaks?
[07:53] <philsf> I'm getting segfaults whenever I try to run apt-get or aptitude, how can I debug this?
[07:53] <mgmuscari> i'm going to try a different approach
[07:53] <mgmuscari> i'm going to extract the DSL image to the partition
[07:53] <Guest85846> ok thx
[07:53] <mgmuscari> and make a grub entry to point to that...
[07:53] <kisuke> guest85846 try http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html
[07:54] <Bravewolf> where are the configuration file of localea? I would like to use an english system with an italian keyboard, with the metric measures and with , as decimal sepator.
[07:54] <indus> i was wondering, doing a cd / with live cd shows the / of cd or hdd
[07:54] <kisuke> thanks actionparsnip1
[07:54] <ActionParsnip1> indus: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/3-tweaks-to-speed-up-firefox-3-and-free.html
[07:54] <Bravewolf> locales
[07:54] <pipegeek> ArkoldThos, hmm, no, it definitely found and is using the wrapper
[07:54] <ActionParsnip1> kisuke: np
[07:54] <Guest85846> will i find that error in my kern.log?
[07:54] <mgmuscari> how do i have grub autoconfigure again?
[07:54] <indus> ActionParsnip1: aww thanks :)
[07:54] <ArkoldThos> thanks ActionParsnip1, the last worked
[07:55] <ActionParsnip1> ArkoldThos: good move, 64bit flash ahoy :D
[07:55] <indus> ActionParsnip1: but i want flash specific help, this one i have tried already
[07:55] <ArkoldThos> damn adobe :(
[07:55] <Guest85846> cannot find map file...
[07:55] <Guest85846> hm what is that?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip1> ArkoldThos: you can uninstall the flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree and apply the same file to firefox too
[07:56] <pipegeek> ah for a world of open standards and compliant implementations where flash was unnecessary
[07:56] <indus> Guest85846: do you have a grub problem?
[07:56] <ArkoldThos> i don't use firefox, i don't like it :/ but thanks for the advice
[07:56] <Guest85846> indus, i guess so
[07:56] <indus> Guest85846: so use live cd to fix it
[07:56] <zanticus> lynx is the way to go
[07:57] <Jyxt> kisuke: if your still here...it seems i have to start JACK before starting audacity...still no drop downs but at least audacity is hearing the line-in now
[07:57] <Guest85846> i am able to start the system only after i chose the second line in the grub menu.. recovery or sth like that
[07:57] <Guest85846> then a menu is loaded and i choose grub.. after that i choose resume boot and its all right, the system boots up
[07:57] <Fragsworth> Is there a file somewhere that displays hard drive information (like /proc/cpuinfo displays CPU information)
[07:58] <indus> Guest85846:after grub menu appears, what do u do
[07:58] <indus> Fragsworth: have to install some tools for that
[07:58] <indus> !smartmontools | Fragsworth
[07:58] <indus> !smart
[07:58] <Guest85846> hmm indus, i dont remember ..
[07:58] <Guest85846> i try that once again
[07:58] <pipegeek> Fragsworth, well, "df" will tell you how much space is left in your mounted filesystems...
[07:58] <kisuke> jyxt can you record?
[07:59] <indus> Fragsworth: install smartmontools for this
[07:59] <Fragsworth> pipegeek: I'm looking more for manufacturer/model information
[07:59] <indus> !info smartmontools | Fragsworth
[07:59] <Fragsworth> cool, thnaks
[08:00] <pipegeek> Fragsworth, hmm.  Explore the /sys hierarchy (/sys/devices/pci*/*).  Also, check out /dev/disk/by-id
[08:01] <indus> pipegeek: that wont give manufacturerr info
[08:02] <pradeep> hoe to enable root login in ubuntu
[08:02] <indus> pradeep: check under users and groups
[08:02] <Jyxt> kisuke: yes...i changed the playback and recording source to JACK...made sure JACK was loaded before audacity and all works fine now...JACK seems to autoroute things for me
[08:02] <pipegeek> indeed.  I fail
[08:03] <indus> !root | pradeep
[08:03] <mgmuscari> lolll
[08:04] <mgmuscari> who set that ubottu message
[08:04] <mgmuscari> sudo bend spoon
[08:04] <Jyxt> kisuke: thanks for the help though
[08:05] <pipegeek> pradeep: if you really really really want a root password, you can "sudo passwd root".  It's rarely necessary, though.
[08:05] <indus> pipegeek: cool :)
[08:05] <mgmuscari> Fragsworth: cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[08:06] <indus> its too easy to enable root , i dont know why its driven into our heads dissuading from doing so
[08:06] <pipegeek> whoa
[08:06] <pipegeek> good to know, mgmuscari
[08:06] <mgmuscari> Fragsworth: if you just want to get the info quick and dirty
[08:06] <mgmuscari> pipegeek: /proc is full of goodies :)
[08:06] <pipegeek> indeed :)
[08:06] <kisuke> jyxt np
[08:06] <Flannel> indus: Because there are no real benefits of doing so.
[08:06] <paipimenta> go get me a sandwich
[08:07] <paipimenta> "Get your own sandwich!"
[08:07] <mgmuscari> paipimenta:
[08:07] <mgmuscari> no
[08:07] <indus> Flannel: yes i know ,not debating  that point at all, i never use it either
[08:07] <paipimenta> haha
[08:07] <Flannel> paipimenta: Please not here.
[08:07] <Flannel> indus: Well, the reason we suggest against it here is that it's Ubuntu policy to not use it.
[08:07] <paipimenta> ok, busybox has sed, but not ed
[08:07] <indus> Flannel: but its easy to set one with GUI ,so ubuntu dont seem too keen on hiding it
[08:08] <pipegeek> indus: maybe it's because it dissuades logging in as root and leaving root terminals open
[08:08] <pipegeek> the less time spent as root the better
[08:08] <indus> Flannel: good look at users adn groups and thats it
[08:08] <indus> anyways off topic i guess
[08:08] <pipegeek> sorry
[08:08] <tPl0ch> hi all :)
[08:08] <pipegeek> howdy
[08:08] <indus> tPl0ch: hello
[08:09] <paipimenta> what was that sed command again?
[08:09] <pipegeek> which
[08:09] <indus> Flannel: is it fine to advice on enabling it with proper warnings? some users probably come from a server background and look for doing same with ubuntu possibly
[08:09] <shibby_> balls
[08:10] <paipimenta> to replace lv_root in menu.lst with lvrot
[08:10] <paipimenta> lvroot
[08:10] <shibby_> butt sex 1000
[08:10] <pipegeek> indus: those users probably know how to set a root password already though
[08:11] <indus> pipegeek: yeah guess they do, or maybe they are surprised a bit when they cant login as root when they use ubuntu first time
[08:11] <paipimenta> sed -i s/lv_root/lvroot/ menu.lst   ??
[08:11] <pipegeek> suppose...
[08:11] <Jyxt> are there any alternative mixer softwares in ubuntu? i'd like one that visually shows the current levels like DJ mixers do
[08:12] <indus> Jyxt: maybe sync
[08:12] <Boohbah> Jyxt: mixxx
[08:12] <indus> Jyxt: but you already tried that i guess
[08:12] <pipegeek> paipimenta, "sed -i 's/lv_root/lvroot/' menu.lst"
[08:12] <philsf> I'm getting segfaults trying to run aptitude (and apt-get). I got the following backtrace information http://pastebin.com/f3b7873a9 following the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace. Can someone help me fix this issue?
[08:12] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: s/foo/bar/g <--- 'g' to substitute every instance in the line
[08:12] <Boohbah> Jyxt: oh sorry, that's a DJ mixer
[08:12] <pipegeek> oh point
[08:12] <pipegeek> paipimenta, "sed -i 's/lv_root/lvroot/g' menu.lst"
[08:12] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: do you know how to use vi?
[08:12] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: i'm pretty sure busybox comes with vi
[08:13] <paipimenta> vi
[08:13] <Jyxt> Boohbah: yeah looks like mixing software...i just want something to replace the default Mixer (that shows audio channels/levels etc)
[08:13] <prince_jammys> in fact, it would be a sin if you had no editor whatsoever
[08:13] <paipimenta> /bin//sh: vi: not found
[08:13] <pipegeek> eek
[08:13] <pipegeek> nano?
[08:13] <indus> philsf: i think you should search on launchpad for this ,then try posting the trace there with some bug
[08:13] <pipegeek> do you have nano?
[08:13] <pipegeek> I'm shocked it doesn't have vi
[08:13] <Jyxt> not a big deal, would be nice to have though...helps to prevent clipping if you can see the signal is going in the red
[08:13] <prince_jammys> no, he doesn't. net even ed.
[08:13] <paipimenta> my system has vi
[08:13] <prince_jammys> s/net/not
[08:14] <prince_jammys> that's bizarre. busybox is supposed to come with vi.
[08:14] <mgmuscari> ooh, i have an idea
[08:14] <indus> philsf: maybe try apt-get clean if that helps
[08:14] <mgmuscari> i'll use the DSL embedded version
[08:14] <mgmuscari> for putting on a flash drive
[08:14] <mgmuscari> i'll throw that onto my partition
[08:14] <mgmuscari> and put another bootloader there
[08:15] <mgmuscari> configure it to have no delay, and chainload it
[08:15] <kisuke>    /bin//sh ?? that dosen't look valid
[08:15] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: see if they called it 'busybox-vi'
[08:15] <prince_jammys> that's fine
[08:15] <paipimenta> BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-2ubuntu7)
[08:15] <prince_jammys> /bin/////////sh == /bin/sh
[08:15] <philsf> indus, apt-get clean does not segfault, but doesn't help either
[08:15] <paipimenta> nope
[08:15] <kisuke> ah
[08:15] <indus> philsf: kk
[08:15] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: let me see what this thing comes with.
[08:15] <paipimenta> "//bin" in IRC, damnit
[08:16] <indus> philsf: i think there are bugs on launchpad ,you rreally should search there
[08:16] <pipegeek> night folks
[08:16] <paipimenta> night,  |geek
[08:17] <pipegeek> :)
[08:17] <paipimenta> thanks, rebooting with new /home
[08:17] <paipimenta> darn
[08:17] <Akaiddo> Hey, I'm trying to install Linux from a Live CD on an old Mac PowerPC G4, which currently has OS 9 on it. Does anyone know how I would get it to boot from the CD and not the HDD?
[08:19] <paipimenta> hmmmm that's weird....
[08:19] <Akaiddo> ??
[08:19] <paipimenta> when I restarted, I got this line: No directory, logging in with HOME=/
[08:20] <paipimenta> but when I cd to home and ls, I get the right device, my vg_pephost/lvhome
[08:20] <Jyxt> paipimenta: fstat apparantly doesnt know that
[08:20] <Jyxt> err fstab
[08:20] <Jyxt> check /etc/fstab and make the entry for your /home is correct
[08:20] <paipimenta> ah
[08:20] <paipimenta> YAY vi!!!!
[08:20] <paipimenta> :-D
[08:22] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: hurray.
[08:22] <prince_jammys> you know things suck when you're excited that you have vi
[08:23] <paipimenta> I read this awesome comic strip when I was at Yahoo!
[08:23] <paipimenta> programmer looks over another programmers shoulder... "Pico? REAL programmers use emacs"
[08:24] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: are you still in busybox, or were able to log in normally?
[08:24] <prince_jammys> heh
[08:24] <Dead-Watcher> halo ada yang berbahasa indonesia?
[08:26] <paipimenta> this is the last line of my /etc/fstab.....
[08:26] <Dead-Watcher> halo ada yang berbahasa indonesia?
[08:26] <prince_jammys> !indonesia
[08:27] <paipimenta> /dev/mapper/vg_pephost-lvhome    /home    ext3     defaults    0     0
[08:27] <Dead-Watcher> udah dari sana pada gak aktif
[08:27] <paipimenta> that should let system know to mount device to /home and I should start in ~    right?
[08:28] <paipimenta> wow, that's what I'd type like if I was on Indo, too
[08:28] <prince_jammys> Dead-Watcher: /join #ubuntu-id
[08:30] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: i think the last number should be 2, though i don't remember why.
[08:30] <prince_jammys> ''man fstab'' will give you a hint
[08:30] <paipimenta> good enough for me
[08:30] <prince_jammys> as far as the /dev/foo, see if sudo fdisk -l  shows it
[08:31] <prince_jammys> i don't have experience with /dev/mapper business
[08:31] <paipimenta> yeah, I had it as /dev/vg_pephost/lvhome.... but it's really /dev/mapper/vg_pephost-lvhome
[08:32] <paipimenta> good...  You can use the same live CD to install it.
[08:36] <paipimenta> assume I had my boot partition and my LVM partition on /dev/sda, with space left over
[08:36] <mario__> Hi, hello everyone!!!
[08:36] <paipimenta> do I have to reboot in recovery mode or something to create a new partition to fill up the device?
[08:36] <paipimenta> right now, the space left over is my concern, but after that
[08:36] <prince_jammys> paipimenta: you can use a partitioner such as gparted. The ubuntu live CD comes with it, or there's a downloadable live CD available. Want a link?
[08:37] <paipimenta> no, I've got it
 I have cd installer is it different with dvd repository?
[08:37] <paipimenta> apt-get is yummy enough
[08:37] <paipimenta> (no reference to yum intended)
[08:37] <prince_jammys> Dead-Watcher: the cd installer should be fine.
[08:37] <prince_jammys> !botsnack
[08:37] <vega-> did the kernel update today add "noapic" as a default option or do i have something very wrong ...
[08:37] <paipimenta> hahahahahhaa
[08:37] <paipimenta> rofl
[08:38] <mario__> Hey guys, i just install Emesene to chat with my friends, i get this latest version, emesene-crazy that support webcams
[08:38] <mario__> but i alway get an error
[08:38] <mario__> libmimic
[08:38] <mario__> something
[08:38] <prince_jammys> Dead-Watcher: i don't know what they're putting on a DVD now, but you can install whatever else you want once you've installed ubuntu.
[08:38] <paipimenta> mime?
[08:38] <Dead-Watcher> another question: what is DVD reposiroty?
[08:38] <ReX0r> I was trying to get sound back, I go to synaptec, try to lock version on xinetd, does nothing, I see automatically install is checked, I click that, now everything in the package menu is greyed out :s
[08:39] <kraut> moin
[08:39] <paipimenta> Dead-Watcher: for some reason, my install was crashing (reinstalling over Linux) so I just installed a basic server install with a prompt and upgraded from there
[08:39] <paipimenta> anything on a DVD is usually going to need at least one package upgraded anyway
[08:39] <paipimenta> unless it just got posted, you just downloaded it, and just burned it
[08:39] <kisuke1> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[08:40] <ReX0r> nm!
[08:40] <mario__> any clue on how to setup my netbook webcam in emesene
[08:40] <mario__> ?
[08:40] <Dead-Watcher> OK, thz prince_jammys
[08:41] <ReX0r> if anybody knows of recent updates that break ac97 sound (or working beta drivers for x-fi in 64bit) and how to fix them, pls lemme know
[08:41] <paipimenta> wow, time to go camp in #lvm and figure out that free space thing
[08:41] <prince_jammys> Dead-Watcher: I don't know about the DVD. I've only used CDs. Like I said, you can install ANYTHING else you want later.
[08:41] <paipimenta> and yes, I clicked my own room link to go there
[08:42] <prince_jammys> Dead-Watcher: have you tried ubuntu booting from a live CD?
[08:42] <mario__> dies anyone know how to setup emesene to work with webcams, or what program should i use to do this
 Dead-Watcher: have you tried ubuntu booting from a live CD? I have not install yet
[08:44] <prince_jammys> Dead-Watcher: you don't need to install ubuntu to try it
[08:44] <prince_jammys> !livecd
[08:44] <Dead-Watcher> !ping
[08:45] <prince_jammys> hehe
[08:45] <Dead-Watcher> oic
[08:45] <Dead-Watcher> where i can get alive cd?
[08:45] <zeco1> hi! I was wondering if there is a way to bypass the ubuntu login screen (gdm) remotely via ssh in order to have the machine load the whole gnome desktop environment. Any idea?
[08:46] <twocarlo> anybody would like to recomen a good scanner for ubuntu
[08:46] <prince_jammys> Dead-Watcher: go to ubuntu's webstite
[08:46] <prince_jammys> err, "website"
[08:46] <kisuke1> dead-watcher  if you burned a CD for *buntu unless it is an alternate install CD it is A  live CD
[08:46] <gartral> !ping | deadwatch
[08:47] <DJones> Dead-Watcher: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[08:47] <twocarlo>  anybody would like to recomen a good scanner for ubuntu that can work out of the box
[08:47] <gartral> twocarlo: anything in the cannoscan LiDE serise
[08:47] <DJones> !hcl | twocarlo This is a good place to look to find compatible hardware
[08:48] <luiX_> hi
[08:48] <luiX_> does anyone know if there's any "known" problem when enconding to H.264 using VLC?
[08:48] <twocarlo> gartral;great to hear that,your a life saver thanks!
[08:48] <kisuke1> can any on help me figure out why linux cant ID my HDD?
[08:49] <prince_jammys> luiX_: heh, i tried #vlc too.
[08:49] <Balsaq> why does my "whois" show where i am from, and others do not?
[08:50] <ideasman_42> Hi, whats the login on a ubuntu install CD ?
[08:50] <ideasman_42> I have the installer up but want to login manually
[08:50] <Flannel> ideasman_42: The CD shouldn't ask you when you boot it, but it's username is "ubuntu" and its password is blank.  If it asks you when you boot (to login) something may be wrong.
[08:50] <cheslyn> hi everyone
[08:50] <ideasman_42> Flannel, no its ok I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:51] <Balsaq> never asked me when i installed it
[08:51] <luiX_> prince_jammys, yep xDDDD
[08:51] <ideasman_42> no it doesnt ask for the password
[08:51] <prince_jammys> luiX_: your best bet may be at the vlc forums for advanced vlc stuff.
[08:51] <luiX_> prince_jammys, yo konw, no one there
[08:51] <ideasman_42> unless you manually go into a terminal
[08:52] <Balsaq> where can i get a list of all those shift alt type commands?
[08:52] <luiX_> prince_jammys, ok, good idea, i'll try there :D
[08:52] <luiX_> thanks
[08:53] <Dead-Watcher> if I have Acer aspire 2920 wich ubuntu version fit for me? desktop or netbookremix?
[08:53] <Pupeno> How do I re-start the bar on top of the screen? The one with the applications menu?
[08:53] <kisuke1> balsaq try wikipedia magig sysrq keq
[08:53] <kisuke1> magic*
[08:53] <Balsaq> :@)oh thanks kisukel
[08:54] <prince_jammys> Pupeno: alt+f2 and type: pkill gnome-panel
[08:54] <ideasman_42> would be cool if ubuntu had an install mode that wiped the partition for everything but the home dir
[08:55] <cong06> um. I don't think that's possible... unless you saved the home directory in memory...
[08:55] <ideasman_42> often I want a clean install but keeping home... ok I should have home on another partition i know
[08:55] <DJones> ideasman_42: You can do that during the partitioning if you've set up your /home on a seperate partition previously
[08:55] <cong06> or just backup to a flash drive?
[08:55] <prince_jammys> ideasman_42: yes, make /home a separate partition.
[08:55] <ideasman_42> cong06, then you loose permissions unless the flash drives not fat
[08:55] <ideasman_42> yeah, should use seperate home
[08:56] <kisuke1> can anyone help me figure out why linux has stoped ID ing my HDD?
[08:56] <ideasman_42> ubuntu rocks! :)
[08:56] <cong06> well, fat sucks anyway
[08:57] <ideasman_42> totally
[08:57] <ideasman_42> but most people wont think to reformat
[08:57] <cheslyn> if anyone ask you what terminal type? what kind of types do you get and what is it do
[08:57] <Bluey> having problems with the 64 bit version of ubuntu 9.04 version 2.6.28-15 causing lockups - doesn't do this with -14 -- any known issuses?
[08:58] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: the ones you run from the GUI can broadly be referred to as 'X terminals'. The terminal you get outside of X is a linux console.
[08:59] <prince_jammys> "X terminal emulators"
[08:59] <leissi> hmm
[09:00] <leissi> why can I not save my nvidia x server settings? When I reboot the resolution reverts back to 1280x1024 instead of staying 1600x1200
[09:00] <tobago> i tried to start crond:  sudo crond    --> cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 5521: Resource temporarily unavailable
[09:00] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: you can type: tput longname   in your terminal.
[09:00] <shoss> Hello, some programs are still starting up in login even after I unchecked them from the 'startup application' manager in ubuntu 9.04 jaunty. does anyone know how to configure this properly?
[09:01] <kokozedman> hey guys
[09:01] <tobago> hey prince_jammys? wha gwaan at the controls?
[09:01] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: is it the only terminal the x , what is x?
[09:01] <kokozedman> where can i get the old aria download manager in Jaunty?
[09:01] <prince_jammys> !X | cheslyn
[09:01] <prince_jammys> tobago: hehehe
[09:01] <kokozedman> there is only one aria2 there, which is the CLI version
[09:01] <marlun-work> Is there an app which can take a screenshot of screen or application and automatically send it to yfrog or simular service?
[09:01] <pcbugfixer> G'Day Folks, anyone have time to help me with a 9.04 install into partition 3 (1 of 4 primary partitions) 101677Mb in size so that all of the ubuntu installation is in this one partition - Please
[09:02] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: X (X11, x.org) is what manages your graphical display.
[09:02] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: thanks bra
[09:04] <[fade]> i need some kind of video/slideshow maker for linux
[09:05] <kisuke> can any one help me find out why linux can cannot find my HDD?
[09:06] <[fade]> type sudo fdisk -l
[09:06] <whois> [fade]: how about "Cinelerra"
[09:06] <[fade]> i will try it now
[09:06] <[fade]> anything else?
[09:06] <prince_jammys> kisuke: are you able to boot? is it a specific drive that you can't mount?
[09:07] <whois> [fade]: let me know after ya test it
[09:07] <whois> [fade]: you can test "LiVES" and "Ingex" too :)
[09:07] <ideasman_42> Hi, FS Question, Im installing Karmic and would selecting to use ext4 on an ext3 formatted fs cause problems?
[09:07] <[fade]> cant find cinelerra package on apt-get
[09:08] <[fade]> let me try other ways
[09:08] <prince_jammys> !cinelerra | [fade]
[09:08] <shoss> Hello, some programs are still starting up in login even after I unchecked them from the 'startup application' manager in ubuntu 9.04 jaunty - Gnome. does anyone know how to configure this properly?
[09:08] <prince_jammys> [fade]: there is also kino and kdenlive, and other simple video editors.
[09:09] <kisuke> prince_lammys linnux can't find it 4 times out of ten but my bios can, i did have xubuntu 9.04 installed along side xp to check that an install would work ran dban cause i bought it used the linux cant find HDD
[09:09] <pcbugfixer> which chat # are the staffers in please
[09:09] <DJones> pcbugfixer: Freenode or Ubuntu staffers?
[09:10] <whois> prince_jammys: legal reasons? are they viewable or is there something, we can know ? if yes or so, please
[09:10] <whois> pcbugfixer: channel staff or network staff
[09:10] <prince_jammys> whois: i don't know what the actual reasons are. Their site probably mentions them.
[09:10] <whois> pcbugfixer: network staff are in #freenode, you can do /stats p , and the channel staff in #ubuntu, you can ask your question or anything
[09:11]  * prince_jammys reports whois to the CIA
[09:11] <pcbugfixer> ubuntu please - would be good to know both please as I am new and may need them both sooner or later
[09:11] <whois> pcbugfixer: ^^ read my post above
[09:11] <prince_jammys> this is a raid!! we know you're making an ILLEGAL slideshow!
[09:11] <mcmlxxi> !karmic
[09:12] <DJones> pcbugfixer: The ubuntu staffers keep an eye on all the ubuntu channels, if its just questions about how to use ubuntu, this is the channel to use
[09:13] <kisuke> prince_jammys linux can't find it 4 times out of ten but my bios can, i did have xubuntu 9.04 installed along side xp to check that an install would work ran dban cause i bought it used the linux cant find HDD
[09:13] <leissi> why can I not save my nvidia x server settings? When I reboot the resolution reverts back to 1280x1024 instead of staying 1600x1200. When I try to save settings I get an error of not being able to save backup.
[09:13] <pickett> run it as root
[09:14] <cong06> I'm confused. is ubottu saying that  its gonna break when it's released? or it'll break until the 29th?
[09:15] <prince_jammys> cong06: no, he/she/it is saying it's unstable if you install it before the official release.
[09:16] <prince_jammys> i.e. expect bugs if you install it now.
[09:16] <[fade]> kdenlive seems ok
[09:16] <cong06> yeah.
[09:16] <[fade]> i think it will serve the purpose
[09:16] <[fade]> once again, thank you :)
[09:18] <pcbugfixer> Thanks for info DJones, whois, I did need help with a 9.04 install into partition 3 (1 of 4 primary partitions) 101677Mb in size so that all of the ubuntu
[09:18] <pcbugfixer> installation is in this one partition - Please
[09:19] <anselm> pcbugfixer: do you have already a 9.04 install ?
[09:21] <pcbugfixer> anselm: yes I have but it is on a different HDD mobile rack - did this to practice installing - but now want to install on my multi OS boot system
[09:22] <whois> pcbugfixer: Ubuntu is supporting LVM from a while, just Boot from your installation media, Press F6 twice on the installation screen, select "Expert" mode, and afterwards You ll be prompted to choose either LVM / Raid / ENcryption etc.
[09:22] <whois> choose LVM : i think that's what you wanttttttttt
[09:22] <whois> sorry, my "t" key is not working properly.
[09:23] <kisuke> can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu can't id my HDD?
[09:24] <pcbugfixer> anselm: I use BootItNG to perform OS boots - have XP Pro sp3 in partition 1(one) - BootitNG is in 4 - all are primary partitions - with Win7 to be installed in partition 2
[09:24] <godstar> kisuke: Is this a new install or an additional HDD on an existing install?
[09:25] <pcbugfixer> whois: getting there is not the problem I have, it is the parameters to choose  i.e. options  that I have problems with
[09:25] <kisuke> new install
[09:25] <kisuke> godstar new install
[09:26] <nomic> pls anyone - what ip address for a client do I put into /etc/exports when allowing a client to access the server (/etc/exports on server) i run ifconfig and see eth0,lo,wlan1,wmaster0 and there are many ip addresses -- can't remember which
[09:26] <nomic> -- NFS
[09:26] <mohrjo> hello
[09:26] <godstar> Ubuntu can not see your HDD in order to install or you have a slave drive or partition that you are trying to see?
[09:26] <padhu> Is IBUS input method is an default setuip in ubuntu 9.10?
[09:27] <pcbugfixer> whois: i.e. in the selections of what needs to be setup - also I seem to not get passed the point where I select the partition and then need to do what ?
[09:28] <maple1> how do I upgrade from ubuntu to windows 7?
[09:28] <nomic> why?
[09:28] <maple1> I like ubuntu but I also like productivity
[09:28] <nomic> it's a different OS
[09:28] <zenlunatic> omg
[09:29] <DJones> !ot | maple1:
[09:29] <amine> Hello, ....for recovery using bin logs,  how to know which binlog.xxxx to use?     or how to tell mysqlbinlog to look in all of them?
[09:29] <amine> thanks
[09:29] <anselm> pcbugfixer: so you need to convert your primary partitions in logical because you only can have 4
[09:29] <pcbugfixer>  whois: I have watched different videos and gone through different instructions - but have not seen one with spesific instruction of hoew to setup into an existing partition
[09:29] <zenlunatic> maple1: more importantly why would you want to?
[09:29] <paipimenta> total props to the #lvm for helping me out.... any Ubuntu noobs, I definitely recommend using guided partition with LVM if you're clueless
[09:29] <paipimenta> makes things easier down the road
[09:29] <paipimenta> or at least more flexible
[09:30] <zenlunatic> paipimenta: is that 9.10?
[09:30] <zenlunatic> paipimenta: never heard of lvm options on install
[09:30] <pcbugfixer> anselm: if I use standard protocol - then yes, however BootItNG does allow for more that 4 partitions if I use it - currently I use standard 4 partition setup
[09:31] <zenlunatic> with ubuntu even
[09:31] <pavel_z> hi guys. what's wrong with my raids ? http://pastebin.ca/1585642
[09:32] <kisuke> godstar i had ubuntu installed before and wiped the HDD after my test install and now the bios can see it but not ubuntu
[09:32] <dan> hḯ
[09:32] <kisuke> maple1 why not down grade XP to 7?
[09:32] <shoss> Hello, some programs are still starting up on login even after I unchecked them from the 'startup application' (system -> preferences --> startup applications)in ubuntu 9.04 jaunty - Gnome. does anyone know how to configure this properly, please?
[09:33] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: i got a reply 'terminal type?' what must i reply
[09:33] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: in what context?
[09:33] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: who/what is asking you this question?
[09:35] <nomic> pls i forgot what ip address for the client I need to put into /etc/exports (setting up nfs) ....
[09:35] <cheslyn> prince jammys: i type in root reset password
[09:35] <nomic> how to get it
[09:36] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: aaaah. That does something TOTALLY different from what you think it does.
[09:36] <sageNsand> Using Empathy or Pidgin in a IRC chat room for a while the scroll bar gets relative short. I notice the chat room screen stops rolling upward and the scroll bar starts to creep upward and that means I can't see the most recent text posted in the room, I have to keep dragging it down to see the new posts. Anyone seen the same?
[09:36] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: in other words, forget about that command. What are you trying to do?
[09:36] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: you want to set a password for a user?
[09:36] <sorenmalling> Can i "force" a user and group to always own files/folder created in a specific folder no matter who creates it?
[09:37] <pernissila> How do i disable the constant update of a window when i resize it?
[09:37] <gartral> sageNsand: yep, it's a libpurple issue.. i use irssi its a much more intuitive client
[09:37] <pernissila> it is soooo slow
[09:37] <kisuke> wow im being ignore T.T
[09:37] <prince_jammys> sorenmalling: look into the "sticky" bit in permissions.
[09:37] <gartral> !ignore | kisuke
[09:37] <Guest92871> what's up?
[09:38] <sageNsand> gartral: TY at least I know Im not alone
[09:38] <gartral> kisuke: what's your rob?
[09:38] <gartral> prob*
[09:38] <prince_jammys> sorenmalling: actually, don't. I misread your question.
[09:38] <godstar> pernissila: I think you can go into gconf-editor and look at Nautilus preferences. This may help you.
[09:38] <sorenmalling> prince_jammys:  :) Okay
[09:39] <kisuke> gartral tring to figure out why ubuntu quit iding my hdd
[09:39] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: yes
[09:39] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: this can be done with the 'passwd' command.
[09:39] <gartral> kisuke: your harddrive isn't being recognised?
[09:40] <neil_d> I have a computer, and I have forgotten what size the hdd is, is there an easy command to find out how big they are.
[09:40] <godstar> kisuke: try instalilng Gparted from add/remove or Synaptic and see if it does not recognize your drive.
[09:40] <bruno_> u can type df on colnsole
[09:40] <bruno_> df
[09:41] <cong06> df is alot faster.
[09:41] <godstar> neil_d: you can also use Gparted as a graphical way to see your HDD.
[09:41] <kisuke> gartral after i wiped it it won't show up which is weird considering my BIOS IDs it been there done that every ~3rd time will find as 1 unknown partition and 1 swap partition
[09:41] <kisuke> godstar V
[09:42] <kisuke> godstar after i wiped it it won't show up which is weird considering my BIOS IDs it been there done that every ~3rd time will find as 1 unknown partition and 1 swap partition
[09:43] <cheslyn> prince_jammys:can you explain me how 2 do that from hte start please i'll really appreciate that
[09:43] <godstar> kisuke: have you checked your jumpers on the HDD themselves and the cabling? Such as, Master 0, 1 or Slave 0, 1?
[09:43] <bruno_> on accessories u can also use the disc analyzer
[09:43] <kisuke> yes
[09:43] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: you want to change your user's password, correct?
[09:43] <anselm> pcbugfixer: can't you simply create a partition with bootit and install grub on the same partition you install 9.04
[09:44] <kisuke> godstar yes worked when i got it then quit when i wiped the hdd, hasent worked scence
[09:44] <godstar> kisuke: seriously, install Gparted and see if that helps find your HDD.
[09:44] <neil_d> godstar: I don't have it installed.  df /dev/sda gives 642752. which doesn't seem correct.
[09:44] <pernissila> godstar, cant find the setting
[09:45] <mario__> in there a way to get a webcam working with emesene/??
[09:45] <kisuke> god star one min idiot didnt include gparted when made masonux
[09:45] <paipimenta> nope, 9.04
[09:45] <godstar> neil_d: install it.
[09:45] <Satisfied> whew..... so much chinese food tonight
[09:45] <Satisfied> sooooo goody
[09:45] <godstar> pernissila: I'll look real quick.
[09:46] <kisuke> godstar one min need to ru napt-get-update first
[09:46] <paipimenta> zenlunatic: 9.04   I remember LVM options on install as far back as fiesty
[09:46] <godstar> kisuke: k
[09:46] <TechN9ne> will GNome apps work well in KDE (kubuntu)?
[09:46] <Satisfied> oops wrong window
[09:46] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: yes but you must remember i don't have access 2 users and groups
[09:47] <prince_jammys> TechN9ne: yes, I wouldn't worry.
[09:47] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: type: passwd  in the terminal
[09:47] <TechN9ne> great
[09:48] <pcbugfixer> anselm: not a real option as I also have XP pro sp3 in partition 1 and will put Win7 in partition 2 and BootItNG is in its own small 8Mb primary partition
[09:48] <prince_jammys> TechN9ne: if you are installing ubuntu-desktop and you already have KDE, you'll just have a ton of apps put in your menus, that's all. You can edit them to your liking.
[09:48] <godstar> pernissila: try this from gconf-editor. apps/nautilus/preferences <--- uncheck the 'navigation_window_saved_maximized' value see if that helps.
[09:49] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: ok thanks let me try it i'll come back 2 u
[09:49] <nomic> pls what ip address for the host do i put into /etc/exports (when setting up an nfs server)
[09:49] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: that will allow you to change your user's password.
[09:49] <TechN9ne> yea i just installed Kubuntu for the first time and wasnt sure if downloading gnome apps would  work well
[09:50] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: thanks
[09:50] <paipimenta> TO ROOM: what are extents?  I'm lvresizing two LVs so I can shrink the partition my VG is on.
[09:51] <pcbugfixer> anselm: it appears that ubuntu needs or requires the partition to have sub (extended) partitions for its various functions and tasks
[09:51] <pernissila> godstar, that was already unchecked
[09:52] <pcbugfixer> anselm: unlike other OS's which onstall directly into a primary partition
[09:52] <younder> I hate using windows again..
[09:52] <younder> 10:36	younder	Trying to compile gnome 2.4 from source and then install it was a mistake
[09:52] <younder> 		<- lat_ har koblet ned (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[09:52] <younder> 10:37	younder	now I can get the login screen just a wait icon
[09:52] <younder> 		-> lat_ har blitt med i lisp
[09:52] <younder> 	younder	Luckily I have dual boot
[09:52] <FloodBot3> younder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:52] <anselm> pcbugfixer: no you can install ubuntu in one primary partition (that's default)
[09:52] <godstar> pernissila: hmm. Mine is on by default. Try to check it and see if you notice the difference you are looking for.
[09:54] <pcbugfixer> anselm: OK so what are the parameters I need to select, to do so please
[09:54] <pernissila> godstar, no difference. How about metacity settings?
[09:55] <anselm> pcbugfixer: Do you have the alternate or the live cd
[09:55] <ray_> hello using dell d600 and i had tried my best but my wireless is not working
[09:56] <younder> Anyhow I can't log into Ubuntu, so I am signing in from windows
[09:56] <godstar> pernissila: Not sure to be honest. If this is an issue that just started happening, I recommend you reinstall gnome or kde or whatever manager you are using. If you are just trying to tweek, you may just need to tinker till you get the effect you are looking for.
[09:56] <pcbugfixer> anselm: I have tried to find instructions for this but only found some and watched videos that went through differet configurationds with creating / /boot /swap and /data partitions which is not waht I wanted to do
[09:56] <younder> Something I wish to remedy
[09:56] <ray_> can anybody help cos av tried all the online help
[09:57] <pcbugfixer> anselm: I have the boot CD I downloaded
[09:58] <godstar> pernissila: Metacity looks like it deals moreso with keybindings.
[09:58] <archy008> can anybody help? - have no sound and can't start the sound-settings-applet after an unclean shutdown
[09:59] <archy008> ubuntu did a system check \
[09:59] <DJones> ray_: I haven't got a D600 so can't help specifically, but this posting on the ubuntu forums suggests it should be quite easy getting it to work, hopefully it'll help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=595447
[09:59] <archy008> and found a bounch of errors
[09:59] <pcbugfixer> anselm: I have already installed 9.04 on a different HDD mobile rack to get used to performing the install - but now would like to install it into my Multi OS boot system PC workstation
[09:59] <archy008> it fixed them but after reboot no sound.... :)
[09:59] <archy008> :(
[09:59] <dougellek> i just installed a new cpu, but their is no where to plug in the fan, the new plug takes 4 pins, and the mobo only 3 pins spots
[09:59] <nomic> pls i forgot  what ip address for the host do i put into /etc/exports (when setting up an nfs server)
[09:59] <nomic> from ifconfig
[10:00] <anselm> pcbugfixer: you only have to create a root partition (/) and be careful to install grub to this partition because otherwise it may damage your bootit
[10:00] <archy008> does anybody know what to do to bring the sound and the sound settings back? i'm on ubuntu 9.04
[10:00] <godstar> archy008: try doing apt-get update
[10:01] <archy008> ok, thanks, i'll try that
[10:01] <godstar> archy008: though your best bet may be to reinstall your desktop manager due to your unclean shutdown.
[10:01] <archy008> hm..
[10:01] <archy008> ok
[10:02] <jerknextdoor> i'm looking for a way to integrate google tasks into my desktop somehow.  i have been working to streamline my workflow for everything lately and this is one of the last things i need to figure out.
[10:02] <godstar> archy008: then you can type: alsamixer in your terminal and see if ubuntu is recognizing your sound card. More than likely it will.
[10:03] <dougellek> yeah, my mobo take this chip, but it doesn't look like it can power the stock fan that came with it
[10:03] <dougellek> does anyone know what im talking about?
[10:03] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: i did'nt crack it it showed  terminal type? and i type passwd
[10:04] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: no. close that terminal and start another one.
[10:04] <archy008> godstar: thanks, sorry for the stupid question (not much of an expert yet) - reinstalling the desktop manager wouldn't affect somehow my files and etc..?
[10:04] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: don't type 'reset' or anything. Just 'passwd'
[10:04] <archy008> should I back up everything beforehand?
[10:05] <pcbugfixer> anselm: root partition (/) ? - on the partition I want to install ubuntu in ? - and the installation will install into that ? - so what are the selections I have to choose to do so i.e. file system etc. please
[10:05] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: ok
[10:05] <prince_jammys> archy008: no, it's OK.
[10:05] <archy008> ok
[10:05] <archy008> thanks
[10:05] <trakcyia> Is there a dock application that is similar to OSX, but does or allows containing of launchers ONLY?
[10:05] <godstar> archy008: As with any system changes, backing up your data is a good thing. In this case its okay to just reinstall your desktop manager without worrying your files will be affected.
[10:06] <archy008> got it. thanks for the help
[10:06] <godstar> archy008: Anytime.
[10:07] <dougellek> oh blue wire is fan control speed
[10:07] <trakcyia> I quit, linux vanity is too time consuming.
[10:08] <pcbugfixer> anselm: the reason I got stuck with the manual install is because there is not much in the way of instruction as to the parameters to choose for a manual installation into 1 primary partition
[10:09] <anselm> pcbugfixer: choose the ext3 filesystem
[10:09] <anselm> pcbugfixer: and make the mount point "/"
[10:10] <mark_> I'm having a problem with my fan
[10:11] <mark_> [ 6299.820303] ACPI: Unable to turn cooling device [ffff880037036140] 'off'
[10:12] <godstar> mark_:  sounds like a BIOS issue. Load default settings in your Bios and reboot.
[10:12] <mark_> Erm
[10:12] <mark_> You what? :-?
[10:13] <mark_> I don't know how to do that
[10:14] <shai> Is there a way to save an entire gnome-terminal session with its tabs and their names and then able to load that session when I need it?
[10:14] <pcbugfixer> anselm: so, 1. - choose manual, 2. - select the partition 3. - edit the partition - and select ext3 filesystem 4. - select "/" as mount point - is this correct? anything else please
[10:14] <mark_> Is there a terminal command for it?
[10:15] <godstar>  mark_: turn your computer off. Turn your computer back on and look at the bottom of your monitor, it will say press F2, Delete, F12 or something to that effect to enter BIOS. From there, load default settings, or performance defaults. See if that does not resolve your ACPI error.
[10:15] <prince_jammys> mark_: no, the BIOS is something you access right when you turn on the computer
[10:15] <mark_> Ah right
[10:15] <mark_> Gotcha
[10:15] <mark_> Okay
[10:15] <mark_> I'll try that
[10:15] <FloodBot3> mark_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:15] <prince_jammys> try the Function Keys, Delete, Esc....
[10:15] <anselm> pcbugfixer: yes you should memorise the partition number
[10:16] <anselm> pcbugfixer: later you will need this number to install the bootloader to this partition.
[10:17] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: thanks alot lol i crack it]
[10:17] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: you reset your password successfully?
[10:17] <ray_> pls help with wireless
[10:17] <pcbugfixer> anselm: SATA HDD Partition 1 is XP, Pt2 is Win7(to be installed) Pt3 is Ubunto, and Pt4 is BootItNG which controls the system boot choices
[10:18] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: successfully thanks and y did it showed terminal type?
[10:18] <carresmd> !ask | ray_
[10:19] <pcbugfixer> anselm: the volume labels are named accordingly
[10:19] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: because 'reset' is a completely different command that has nothing to do with passwords. It resets a terminal if the settings are wrong.
[10:19] <shai> Does anyone know if there is a way to save an entire gnome-terminal session with its tabs and their names and then able to load that session when I need it?
[10:20] <anselm> pcbugfixer: Yes then ubuntu is on /dev/sda3 or? you should be able to read this in the first field
[10:21] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: what kind of terminal and what is a terminal what does it really do with the pc
[10:22] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: the terminal you use is a program that emulates the old-fashioned terminal devices that are connected to main computer.
[10:22] <pcbugfixer> anselm: can you elaborate on this please - /dev/sda3 .... read in first field ?
[10:22] <prince_jammys> they are "terminal emulators".
[10:22] <godstar> shai: you could probably go to startup applications and select automatically remember running applications when logging out.
[10:23] <SharpRain> whats a good download manager with multiple threads, scheduling and password/proxy support?
[10:23] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: it's difficult to answer your question in detail. you should look on the internet for an explanation.
[10:23] <SharpRain> (for ubuntu, of course)
[10:23] <shai> godstar, thanks for the answer... but I was hoping for something much simpler then that... since I don't want everything to open when I log in again... Konsole from KDE does this just by allowing you to actually save a session. Where gnome doesn't.
[10:23] <cipria> "download them all" as firefox plugin
[10:24] <cheslyn> prince_jammys: thanks know i understand can you do this in windows also
[10:24] <shai> godstar, I'm actually surprised this is not documented or a wanted feature for most people...
[10:24] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: yes
[10:24] <prince_jammys> cheslyn: well, windows has a "Command Prompt".
[10:24] <cheslyn> what is tethering?
[10:24] <godstar> shai: What you are requesting is a neat feature. I'm sure a script could be created to meet your requirement.
[10:25] <anselm> In the table with the list of the partitions you should read in the first filed /dev/sda3 or sda3.
[10:25] <cipria> sharpRain: "download them all" as firefox plugin
[10:26] <DJones> cheslyn: in respect of a mobile phone? Its where you connect a computer to your phone by cable/bluetooth so that your phone acts at the modem/router giving your computer access to the internet
[10:26] <shai> godstar, really? is this like the first time this was brought up? Konsole has been doing this for a long time.
[10:26] <pcbugfixer> anselm: missed the ..... later you will need this number to install the bootloader to this partition. - what or which boot loader ?  are you referring to please
[10:27] <shai> godstar, The funny thing is, both gnome-terminal and Konsole call it "Save Sessions Profile" yet Konsole acutally does that, where I still have NO idea what gnome-terminal does with that.
[10:27] <Jyxt> cipria: isnt it actually called: DownThemAll
[10:27] <godstar> shai: Sorry not sure. I do not use KDE.
[10:27] <cipria> Jyxt: yes sorry