[05:30] <john_> me pudes ayudar?
[05:30] <nik_> proqesi: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[05:30] <DanaG> Also watch out for horizontal scrolling in Firefox.
[05:31] <nik_> proqesi: what do you make of that?
[05:31] <phoul> How hard would it be to build it for gutsy?...
[05:31] <captaincrunch> john_: no tengo mucha experiencia, pero dime a ver
[05:31] <Pirate-King> anybody help me mplayer wont play dvd movie
[05:31] <danloz> Cabrioleur:  looks like I'm getting somewhere
[05:31] <Pirate-King> getting error
[05:31] <danloz> FYI:  did you try the "no fluff" method yet?
[05:31] <mosno> phoul: too much effort for me, i'd want to package it up and i can't be bothered
[05:31] <tritium> FYI: thanks
[05:31] <proqesi> nik_: looks like you have an ATI SB450 HDA sound card
[05:31] <phoul> mosno, okay... i mean just the ol config make make install method ;)
[05:32] <lusepuster> Pirate-King, I know the problem. I'm using Ogle for DVD's, it's old and ugly byt does the job better than any other player I've seen
[05:32] <mosno> phoul: probably easy
[05:32] <Pirate-King> ok
[05:32] <nik_> proqesi: if i go to the website will the windows driver work on gutsy?
[05:32] <mosno> phoul: you could spend 5 minutes learning pbuilder and backport the Hardy version, I GUESS
[05:32] <FYI> danloz: what is tthat?
[05:32] <Pirate-King> I need aplayer that will play lots of formats
[05:32] <crimsun> nik_: install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)
[05:32] <crimsun> Ashfire908: what precisely are you attempting to accomplish?
[05:33] <phoul> i just wanna try it out...
[05:33] <DanaG> horizontal scroll in Firefox defaults to being 'back' and 'forward'.
[05:33] <cabrioleur> Pirate-King, mplayer does play a lot of them, try "mplayer -vo xv filename"
[05:33] <proqesi> nik_: not sure.  I always use the linux drivers
[05:33] <lusepuster> Pirate-King, VLC is a good one, chews its way through more players than I've seen elsewhere
[05:33] <DanaG> And if you set it to be scrolling, then thumb buttons on external mice, which map to hscroll, won't work.
[05:33] <FYI> Is WICD available in any repos?
[05:33] <mosno> phoul: there's some random guide on the web
[05:33] <bkar> which among the stage1.5 would be used if  my / filesystem is ext3 ?  am getting an error Grub 15
[05:33] <mosno> phoul: google it
[05:33] <danloz> FYI:  Pvt me.
[05:33] <hdvalence> can someone help with debugging why my X crashes?
[05:33] <LiraNuna> can you have dual view on an ATI based laptop with 3D acceleration?
[05:33] <lusepuster> Pirate-King, but I still prefer Ogle for DVDs
[05:33] <nik_> proqesi: how do i install that, im fairly new to linux
[05:34] <danloz> Maybe we can combine our n00bishness.
[05:34] <josiah> what is the best aspect ratio to convert dvd's to for streaming them to my ps3? I have a HDTV
[05:34] <mark__> i have a "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)" but for some reason sound isnt working... no mixer... any ideas?
[05:34] <DanaG> For mkv with arbitrarily-positioned subtitles, mplayer ⋙ vlc.
[05:34] <DanaG> VLC just piles them up at the bottom.
[05:34] <cabrioleur> mark__ are modules in place? can you see something when you cat /dev/sndstat?
[05:34] <crimsun> mark__: download http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh and execute it using bash
[05:35] <proqesi> nik_: oddly enough, someone posted about the same card as you have on ubuntu forums
[05:35] <mark__> cabrioleur: yes i can
[05:35] <crimsun> proqesi: which card?
[05:35] <hdvalence> http://kde.pastey.net/80614
[05:35] <nik_> proqesi: sorry i didnt even think to check on forums
[05:35] <proqesi> nik_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-619310.html
[05:36] <cabrioleur> mark__, tried alsamixer?
[05:36] <nik_> proqesi: thanks
[05:36] <proqesi> crimsun: ATI SB450 HDA sound card
[05:36] <mark__> cabrioleur: no such device.
[05:36] <Ashfire908> crimsun: shut down alsa. any of the alsa programs (amixer, aplay) that attempts to run hangs and refuses to stop even when sent kill signals.
[05:36] <mark__> http://pastebin.ca/852947 alsainfo output
[05:36] <crimsun> proqesi: that's not a card, that's a family.  Is there any more information?
[05:37] <mark__> wait a minute.
[05:37] <mark__> doing sudo alsamixer works
[05:37] <mark__> but alsamixer as user doesnt
[05:37] <crimsun> mark__: make sure your user is in the audio group.
[05:37] <bkar> !grub
[05:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:37] <crimsun> mark__: not root.  I mean your unprivileged user.
[05:37] <proqesi> crimsun: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[05:37] <mark__> crimsun: ok, let me check
[05:37] <DanaG> Also, beware of sudo'ing GUI apps. (is there an Ubotu factoid for that?)
[05:37] <Pirate-King> http://pastebin.ca/852949
[05:38] <crimsun> proqesi: SB450 is a family.  I need the specific subdevice and subvendor (from `lspci -nv`).
[05:38] <Pirate-King> could you check that
[05:38] <luchador|bbl> where do i find wine
[05:38] <luchador|bbl> i installed it but cant find it in menus
[05:38] <proqesi> nik_: try that  ^^
[05:38] <mark__> my user is in the audio group
[05:38] <mark__> but still no effect
[05:39] <ablyss> luchador|bbl: wine will run exe files when clicked. you don't really run wine just any exe file
[05:39] <crimsun> mark__: please pastebin the command that you executed to verify that your unprivileged user is in the audio group.
[05:39] <luchador|bbl> oh
[05:39] <mark__> crimsun: i checked /etc/group :-p
[05:39] <crimsun> mark__: did you just recently add it?
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> luchador|bbl: right click *.exe and select run with wine
[05:40] <mark__> aye
[05:40] <AutoMatriX> hunchybunch, I think I made a mistake somewher :(
[05:40] <mark__> hang on i have an idea
[05:40] <crimsun> mark__: log out and back in.
[05:40] <mark__> brb
[05:41] <Pirate-King> tring to get mplayer to play dvd's could someone check this out for me http://pastebin.ca/852949
[05:41] <abdulla> how to configure apache guys?
[05:41] <cabrioleur> Pirate-King, substitute filename with your video file :-)
[05:41] <Pirate-King> ok
[05:41] <mark__> ok i got it working
[05:42] <mark__> for some reason none of the groups for this user were set properly
[05:42] <mark__> thanks
[05:42] <danloz> prepare for a n00b question - If i mkdir ~/blah     Where will I find the blah folder?
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> danloz: /home
[05:42] <Ashfire908> danloz: ~ is your home folder
[05:42] <cabrioleur> abdulla, I don't like it but you have to read documentation. It's not a hey I'm done kind of things.
[05:42] <danloz> Jack_Sparrow:  Thank you.
[05:42] <proqesi> abdulla: edit your /etc/httpd/httpd.conf file. ask any further questions on #apache
[05:42] <danloz> Ashfire:  thank you.
[05:43] <ablyss> Jack_Sparrow: /home != his home directory
[05:43] <desertc> Hello all... having trouble installing Ubuntu?  Consider purchasing a computer with Ubuntu preinstalled and has telephone technical support.  Help support the Ubuntu community by planning purchases from companies that support Ubuntu.  :-)
[05:43] <Ashfire908> danloz: so ~ is /home/<user>/
[05:43] <crimsun> mark__: that's what I suspected.  And, additions to groups aren't effected until the next login.
[05:43] <abdulla> thanks proqesi
[05:43] <phoul> who here said they have used avant window navigator?
[05:43] <thinman1189> Hello. I'm having some problems with java. A certain java applet won't load. I'm thinking it may be that I haven't accepted that site. Usually if I try to use that applet on a computer that has never used it, a window pops up where I can authorize it. no such pop up occurs. How can I manually allow it?
[05:43] <danloz> Now, should I enable the firmware before I go through the "no fluff" process?
[05:44] <abdulla> yes cabrioleur your correct , :) this is why we are brothers
[05:44] <phoul> Im trying to figure out (I know its like... stupid and pointless but still... i would like to see how well it worked) how to get it so you could toss the icons around from the bar, Ive seen videos and people do it at lans... its really neat >.>
[05:44] <nik_> proqesi: ok i did what the forum told me if all goes well i will get sound
[05:44] <danloz> Let me rephrase that.  Is the restricted driver being enabled a prerequsite for installing a driver via NDISwrapper?
[05:44] <luchador|bbl> so you said i just launch the .exe
[05:44] <luchador|bbl> but when i tried
[05:44] <luchador|bbl> it tells me it could not display it
[05:44] <desertc> nik_ Your sound might very well be muted.
[05:45] <proqesi> desertc: he can't start alsamixer, so I doubt it
[05:45] <desertc> nik_: What does "aplay -l " say ?
[05:45] <towlie> im running ubuntu with gnome. is it a big deal to install kde ?
[05:46] <cabrioleur> danloz, no
[05:46] <desertc> proqesi: alsamixer might just not be identifying the default card correctly
[05:46] <Onyx> I've got emerald installed, but I want to use metacity as default (while still keeping emerald on the system in case I want to switch again).  How can I make metacity the default?
[05:46] <BluR> how can I easily determine a safe place to write a file that will be easy to find by a user later on, without prompting them?
[05:46] <towlie> can i install it from the software updater ?
[05:46] <danloz> Cabrioleur:  I hope you're right.  I don't want to brick the laptop again:)
[05:46] <ablyss> phoul: cairo-dock is somewhat like the app you talking about. I forget the name of the app where the icons fly off the taskbar and bounce around before returning
[05:46] <BluR> shall I use a hidden file in their home dir? i.e. "~/.myapp.txt"
[05:46] <coz_> Onyx,  hit alt+F2   metacity --replace
[05:46] <coz_> no no
[05:46] <BluR> I don't think that'll work for me because root doesn't have a home dir, frequently
[05:46] <coz_> Onyx, forget that
[05:46] <cabrioleur> danloz, restricted drivers have nothing to do with it as ndiswrapper comes with it's own module not related to anything. But don't rash restricted-drivers!!!
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ablyss: Agreed...   so mkdir ~/blah   is current users base folder  Inmy case /home/jack/blah
[05:46] <phoul> ablyss, i think it was avant =\
[05:46] <DanaG> Oh, the bouncy dock was Kiba-dock.
[05:47] <desertc> Blur: Just put it in your home and make it readable by all
[05:47] <coz_> Onyx, hit alt+F2  gtk-window-decorator --replace
[05:47] <proqesi> danloz: if you brick a laptop, it means you destroyed it so bad you have to throw it away
[05:47] <Onyx> coz_: Heh, yeah, I did that and emerald came back the next time I started up gdm
[05:47] <DanaG> Has it been abandoned? I haven't heard about it in a while.
[05:47] <BluR> what if I'm expecting this script to be put in cron jobs?
[05:47] <coz_> Onyx, oh I see ok are you on gutsy or feisty?
[05:47] <Onyx> coz_: Gutsy
[05:47] <coz_> Onyx, are you using fusion icon?
[05:47] <FYI> grrr.. installed WICD and now uninstalled (didn't help with wireless). How do I get the network tray icon to reappear?
[05:47] <ablyss> phoul: avant doesn't ring a bell
[05:47] <desertc> DanaG: People come and go, try to put as much detail into your messages as possible so others can help you
[05:47] <Pirate-King> http://pastebin.ca/852955
[05:47] <danloz> DAMNABLE.  Still telling me that NDISwrapper is not installed
[05:48] <Onyx> coz_: No.  I just ran the 2nd command you posted -- I meant I'd tried the first one you gave me.
[05:48] <danloz> but it is installed.  I just installed it.
[05:48] <Pirate-King> please check that
[05:48] <ablyss> Jack_Sparrow: cool
[05:48] <Onyx> coz_: So this should make it the default now?
[05:48] <cabrioleur> danloz, you are trying to push too hard.
[05:48] <crimsun> desertc: note that he quit.
[05:48] <Noogen> danloz: are you on gutsy?
[05:48] <cabrioleur> danloz, check whereis ndiswrapper to see where it is.
[05:48] <luis> does anyone here know if there are any .flv players for Ubuntu?
[05:48] <lusepuster> DanaG, Yippee - almost! I can scroll but when I lift my finger, it scrolls back, to the side or somewhere else - sometimes. Is that something you've seen?
[05:48] <danloz> noogen:  yes
[05:48] <lazy247x> is there a disk partation program in ubuntu??
[05:48] <proqesi> luis: several, vlc for one
[05:48] <cabrioleur> luis, mplayer, xine, flashplayer.
[05:48] <coz_> Onyx, no but if you go into ccsm under the window decorations plugin and in the Commnad field you can put  gtk-window-decorator --replace as the command
[05:48] <desertc> crimsun: you must have fixed it for him, if he quits without saying thank you, right?
[05:49] <abdulla> guys have a look at my desktop theme's http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/17/alsheeba/f_newDesktopm_3888ac3.png&srv=img30
[05:49] <luis> any of them come with ubuntu?
[05:49] <Noogen> danloz: and you are trying to install bcm43xx driver?
[05:49] <lusepuster> luis, Can't totem do that?
[05:49] <luis> lol
[05:49] <Cleanser23> Hello, I always get great support on this IRC so i thought i would come here to ask for help
[05:49] <FYI> Anyone know how to get the network tray icon to appear at start? WICD took it away
[05:49] <crimsun> desertc: I didn't do anything; he followed $random forum post.
[05:49] <proqesi> luis: sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:49] <danloz> Whereis Ndiswrapper returns:  "NDISWRAPPER:"
[05:49] <danloz> Noogen:  Yes.
[05:49] <desertc> crimsun: gotcha.  ;-)
[05:49] <luis> well, I have a .flv file on my desktop and it won't get it, :(
[05:49] <luis> thanks proquest
[05:49] <Noogen> danloz: have you try - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[05:49] <Noogen> ?
[05:49] <Pirate-King> please check that http://pastebin.ca/852955
[05:49] <desertc> luis: "it won't get it" << try to be more descriptive
[05:49] <ablyss> phoul: it is called kiba-dock
[05:49] <DanaG> I'll have to test it.  I'm now on Hardy, so I don't remember which version of the driver fixed scrolling behavior.
[05:50] <luis> won't play it, won't recognise it
[05:50] <lazy247x> how can i resize my disk partation in ubuntu??
[05:50] <FYI> Does anyone know how to get the network tray icon to appear (I installed WICD and it's gone now)
[05:50] <Onyx> coz_: I've got cssm opened up now, but I don't see where to put that command in.  Sorry, I'm brand new to messing with GTK
[05:50] <scarlet> i can play a DVD with VLC .... but not movie player .... ive installed all the libdvd*'s ... what am i missing ??
[05:50] <FYI> lazy247x: have you tried gparted?
[05:50] <desertc> luis: what in the wolrd is "it" ?
[05:50] <Darkmystere> Well Im Back Lol  Im trying to  Install and run Regnum Online and im getting this...
[05:50] <lazy247x> ok i'll try
[05:50] <Cleanser23> ok i was stupid and installed an nvidia linux driver from their website for my geforce 5200 FX but then my computer started messing up so i went through a buncha trouble to get rid of it and reconfigured X but now when i try to enable or install nvidia-glx-new again it will boot in safe graphics mode and not work
[05:50] <luis> the video, sorry
[05:50] <Darkmystere> Unsupported video card!
[05:50] <Darkmystere> There are three possible causes for this error:
[05:50] <Darkmystere> 1. Your video card is too old
[05:50] <Darkmystere> 2. You haven't installed the latest available drivers
[05:50] <Darkmystere> 3. You haven't installed the latest DirectX version
[05:50] <luis> or, the .flv file I mean
[05:50] <desertc> scarlet: dvdnav ?
[05:50] <cabrioleur> abdulla, nice desktop. good use of widgets.
[05:50] <luis> but, I think it may have been something with the .flv file not downloading correctly
[05:50] <coz_> Onyx, no problem under the window decorations plugin under the Effects catagory
[05:50] <abdulla> and here is another Great theme http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/17/alsheeba/f_NewDesktop2m_715b7da.png&srv=img36
[05:50] <Darkmystere> Oh and sorry for leaving earlier Family Alert Some 1 in hospital
[05:51] <lusepuster> DanaG, Ah so it's a known problem? I'm using kernel 2.6.15 since 2.6.16 broke my laptop speaker muting...
[05:51] <pvl1> does zsoelim come with the ubuntu installation?
[05:51] <coz_> Onyx, then when yo open that you will see the "Command" field
[05:51] <scarlet> desertc, dvdnav ??   i dont know it
[05:51] <Cleanser23>  ok i was stupid and installed an nvidia linux driver from their website for my geforce 5200 FX but then my computer started messing up so i went through a buncha trouble to get rid of it and reconfigured X but now when i try to enable or install nvidia-glx-new again it will boot in safe graphics mode and not work
[05:51] <Onyx> coz_: Ahhh, thanks a bunch!
[05:51] <coz_> Onyx, generally it has   "emerald --replace" there
[05:51] <proqesi> pvl1: try apt-cache search zsoelim
[05:51] <abdulla> Thank you cabrioleur
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> abdulla: Please do not post those links in this channel.. it is offtopic
[05:51] <DanaG> Actually, the scrolling fix was an xorg update.
[05:51] <coz_> Onyx, give that try and see if that works
[05:51] <Truman_> Hey, I just got a new hard drive & put a bunch of stuff on it .. it started freezing on me when I tried to access it, so I ran fsck.  I've been getting stuff similar to this:  Error reading block 23396353 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while reading inode and block bitmaps.  Ignore error<y>? yes
[05:51] <Truman_> Force rewrite<y>? yes
[05:51] <Truman_> Literally all day
[05:51] <lusepuster> DanaG, and a recent one?
[05:51] <Truman_> sorry about the lines
[05:51] <FYI> HOW DO I get the network applet program to appear in the tray again? seriously
[05:51] <Darkmystere> Also im getting : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":1.0".
[05:51] <Darkmystere>  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[05:52] <lazy247x> thanks FYI
[05:52] <Cleanser23>  ok i was stupid and installed an nvidia linux driver from their website for my geforce 5200 FX but then my computer started messing up so i went through a buncha trouble to get rid of it and reconfigured X but now when i try to enable or install nvidia-glx-new again it will boot in safe graphics mode and not work
[05:52] <desertc> Cleanser23: you could always reinstall the OS in the worst case, remember to back up your /home
[05:52] <danloz> Noogen:  The restricted driver doesn't work.   Any suggestions
[05:52] <coz_> Onyx, if you want a less hectic place to ask about compiz fuson I would suggest   #compiz-fusion :)
[05:52] <danloz> Noogen:  So this is a different one?
[05:52] <Cleanser23> desertc, any other suggestions?
[05:52] <DanaG> I'm looking to find that xorg update.
[05:53] <Noogen> yep
[05:53] <desertc> Cleanser23: make a backup before you modify your kernel next time?
[05:53] <latinoguy> how to create launcher for epiphany in cairo-dock
[05:53] <Cleanser23> what is the kernel version now destertc?
[05:53] <Cleanser23> i will just restore the old one
[05:53] <DanaG> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411266
[05:53] <cabrioleur> Cleanser23, yes, probably your drivers are not matching module. Check log for it.
[05:53] <lusepuster> DanaG, thanks!
[05:53] <Noogen> danloz: note on the page - "The firmware code is still not distributed with Ubuntu and must be downloaded and extracted before bcm43xx will work."
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate-King: Are you trying to run something with wine?
[05:54] <DanaG> xfree86-driver-synaptics (0.14.7~git20070517-1) unstable; urgency=low
[05:54] <Cleanser23> and the installer should have automaticly backed it up so how do i put the old one bak desertc
[05:54] <proqesi> Cleanser23: try reinstalling any packages you may have removed
[05:54] <DanaG> What version do you have?
[05:54] <bkar> which among the stage1.5 would be used if  my / filesystem is ext3 ?  am getting an error Grub 15 .. there are like under /boot/grub/FSNAME_stage1_5, I suspect e2fs_stage1_5
[05:54] <Cleanser23> how do i check my log, im a little new
[05:54] <Pirate-King> nope just mplayer  no wine here
[05:54] <DanaG> It looks like it's post-Gutsy.
[05:54] <pvl1> proqesi, thanks
[05:54] <bkar> Cleanser23-> most logs are in /var/log
[05:54] <desertc> Cleanser23: who can say what the NVIDIA installation program did when you ran it with sudo?
[05:55] <Pirate-King> what do I do jack
[05:55] <cabrioleur> desertc, it creates a log.
[05:55] <Cleanser23> desertc, it can it says it makes backups and stuff
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate-King: How did you install mplayer?
[05:55] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfree86-driver-synaptics/+bug/179638/+viewstatus
[05:55] <FYI> Someone, please help. HOW do I get the network-applet tray icon to reappear?
[05:55] <Cleanser23> im pretty sure it would back up something like a kernel destertc
[05:55] <danloz> Noogen:  What's the risk level trying this?
[05:55] <Cleanser23> right???
[05:55] <towlie> can i install kde 4.0 from the software updater ?
[05:55] <danloz> And do I need to unblacklist bm43xx?
[05:55] <DanaG> or rather,   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfree86-driver-synaptics/+bug/179638
[05:55] <desertc> FYI: add to panel
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> towlie: No.. and if you do install it manually.. be sure to have a full backup
[05:55] <wangwenjie> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[05:56] <Noogen> danloz: lower than it would with ndiswrapper
[05:56] <mosno> anyone used rssowl? doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu repos
[05:56] <FYI> desertc: not that, the one that starts by default
[05:56] <AutoMatriX> hunchybunch, hello again, I double-checked but that 'salmon' is still there, just befoire the login screen
[05:56] <coz_> ubuntu rssowl
[05:56] <cabrioleur> Cleanser23, nvidia from the website are not touching the kernel, only module. If the module exists, then it cannot do even this. The problem is that ubuntu comes with nvidia module regardles if drivers are there or not.
[05:56] <Noogen> danloz: mine was a server installation so the server install instruction was very straight forward
[05:56] <desertc> FYI: Right click on the panel and select Add to Panel.
[05:56] <FYI> the one that WICD facking removed and didn't put back after I uninstalled
[05:56] <DanaG> Oh yeah, if you wanna' disable Emerald, there are two ways:
[05:56] <mosno> coz_: ?
[05:57] <Cleanser23> cabrioleur, do you know how i can repair the module then?
[05:57] <DanaG> edit /usr/bin/compiz to make it not use emerald (it's a variable), or chmod -x `which emerald` (makes it not executable).
[05:57] <lusepuster> DanaG, xfree86 and xorg are different projects afaik - but they share that kind of drivers?
[05:57] <cabrioleur> Cleanser23, you can for instance remove nvidia.ko manually, and then install any of the drivers (I recommend the website, as they are more polished)
[05:57] <coz_> mosno, sorry I was trying to type in google hold on :)
[05:57] <Noogen> danloz: since server environment doesn't have restircted enable, it was basically no risk
[05:57] <DanaG> The package name changed, Ithink.  Ithink that's all.
[05:57] <mosno> coz_: i can't believe i didn't do that
[05:57]  * mosno slaps himself
[05:57] <danloz> I still can't believe I've gotten away with calling the "kernel" the "colonel" twice in this room.
[05:57] <bkar> which among the stage1.5 would be used if  my / filesystem is ext3 ?  am getting an error Grub 15 .. there are like under /boot/grub/FSNAME_stage1_5, I suspect e2fs_stage1_5   ??
[05:57] <danloz> N00gen:  I just ran the deb
[05:57] <rp3> so I use the mount command like so "sudo mount -t cifs -o username=xxx,password=xxx //whatever/what /mnt/whatever and it works fine
[05:58] <rp3> but then I add the line to fstab and reboot and hte machine locks up after about 2 mins?
[05:58] <Cleanser23> cabrioleur, i am kinda of afraid to do that cuz i cant find the right driver for an Nvidia geforce 5200 fx and i dont know where the .ko module files are
[05:58] <desertc> danloz: made me smile at least.  :)
[05:58] <danloz> Desertc:  What's the fun of being a n00b if you can't say stuff like that?
[05:58] <desertc> danloz: I agree!
[05:58] <cabrioleur> Cleanser23, "find / | grep nvidia.ko" will tell you where it is. Should be /lib/modules/2.6something
[05:59] <cabrioleur> Cleanser23, don't be scared. :-)
[05:59] <Cleanser23> cabrioleur, and your sure that this will make it so i can reinstall nvidia glx???
[05:59] <coz_> mosno, i am not finding much but you may have to compile this  http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/RSSOwl-Download-1099.html
[05:59] <mosno> coz_: christ, it's a java application, forget i asked
[05:59] <Onyx> coz_: That didn't do the trick unfortunately
[05:59] <mosno> :(
[05:59] <coz_> mosno, oh i see
[05:59] <coz_> Onyx, mmm
[05:59] <cabrioleur> Cleanser23, if you want to make sure check xorg.log. At some point it should say what's the problem.
[05:59] <mosno> coz_: thanks anyway
[06:00] <coz_> mosno, no problem sorry I couldnt help
[06:00] <thinman1189> Hello. I'm having some problems with java. A certain java applet won't load. I'm thinking it may be that I haven't accepted that site. Usually if I try to use that applet on a computer that has never used it, a window pops up where I can authorize it. no such pop up occurs. How can I manually allow it?
[06:00] <Cleanser23> thanks cabrioleur
[06:00] <cabrioleur> Cleanser23, 95% of cases is the version mismatch.
[06:00] <danloz> Noog:  I ran the deb.  I installed from a local file.  We have a wifi blue light
[06:00] <coz_> Onyx, how are you starting compiz fusion again?
[06:00] <desertc> !java
[06:00] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[06:00]  * jescis is having same problem proqesi has/had
[06:00] <mosno> coz_: i'll choose between liferea and straw, i think ---- or i might get adventurous and try planet!
[06:00] <Noogen> jay
[06:00] <Noogen> now you can scan
[06:00] <coz_> mosno, ok guy :)
[06:00] <Onyx> coz_: It just starts up as soon as I start the gnome session
[06:01] <coz_> Onyx, ok
[06:01] <drgonzo00000> i got alsa mixer to detect my soundcard finally, but i still am getting no sound. Any suggestions?
[06:01] <coz_> Onyx, you are running gnome correct?
[06:01] <desertc> drgonzo00000: The sound is most likely muted
[06:01] <Onyx> coz_: Yes, latest in Gutsy
[06:01] <proqesi> jescis: I got the files off the cd with cdparanoia
[06:01] <lusepuster> DanaG, anyway, a huge thanks for the help! I'll wait for Hardy (this is a machine I use for studying so I can't afford having an unstable distro...)
[06:01] <jescis> thanks
[06:01] <coz_> Onyx, and when you did the metacity --replace command in terminal are there errors
[06:01] <drgonzo00000> desertc: its not muted in alsa
[06:01] <drgonzo00000> it says it's at 88%
[06:02] <DanaG> You can try installing just that one package from Debian, but keep the old deb around too.
[06:02] <desertc> drgonzo00000: There are lots of channels.  >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930 << Try this
[06:02] <Onyx> coz_: No errors, just warnings
[06:02] <coz_> Onyx, ok  and if you do that command compiz fusion is killed correct?
[06:02] <FYI> Sweet. I just installed network-manager but where the hell is it?
[06:02] <Onyx> coz_: Correct
[06:02] <jay2xra> help: can't navigate any https website. (ubuntu gutsy)
[06:02] <jfijodsjoijfids> hello
[06:03] <intercek> ubuntu-es
[06:03] <coz_> Onyx, ok in terminal try this command   compiz --replace ccp & gtk-window-decorator --replace
[06:03] <kaboombob> ok i have a question about firefox and noones answering in that channel and i cant find the answer on google i accidently deleted my certificates and i was wondering if there was a way to reset them back to their defaults
[06:03] <Invert314> how do i see if there is an updated version of software in the repos compared to a program already installed?
[06:03] <intercek> #ubuntu-es
[06:03] <jay2xra> hi, i'm using firefox.... i can't navigate any https website...
[06:03] <kaboombob> jay2xra im having the same problem
[06:03] <proqesi> Invert314: the dist-upgrade command in apt-get
[06:03] <Onyx> coz_: That brought back compiz fusion
[06:03] <desertc> kaboombob: I think once you delete them, they are gone
[06:04] <FYI> seriously, anybody out there.   But it's still not picking up any local wifi
[06:04] <desertc> ]RandoM[: Is it possible to reinstall Nautilus ?
[06:04] <darkkith> FYI sudo network-admin
[06:04] <darkkith> ?
[06:05] <Pirate-King> http://pastebin.ca/852966
[06:05] <mosno> 'debtags show' on my system doesn't actually show tags for the specified package. why not?
[06:05] <]RandoM[> i do have some mounted ntfs drives.. but i've noticed that when it acts up i can't look at files in /home either
[06:05] <sp0ro1> Is SAMBA required for Linux and Windows computers to recognize each other on a network? My linux box sees the windows box, but not the other way around.
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> jay2xra: If you put this where you would put the http  do you get google..    <IP_ADDRESS> 2
[06:05] <Pirate-King> Check that Jack_sparrow
[06:05] <yaser> Hi, when I enter Gnome session, Compiz Fusion takes a while in starting so I dont have WM for some minutes , how can i check why is that delay?
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate-King: You never said how you installed it.
[06:05] <jay2xra> @jack_sparrow... yes... i can browse any website.. http only..
[06:05] <jay2xra> not https...
[06:05] <darkkith> i just installed vista in vmware .. this is the first vista ever for me, and ..  is it just me or did ms steal the ubuntu three people thing with the three "msn people" icons that are all holding shoulders
[06:05] <Pirate-King> in the paste bin
[06:05] <yaser> Hi, when I enter Gnome session, fusion-icon takes a while in starting so I dont have WM for some minutes , how can i check why is that delay?
[06:06] <nik_> proqesi: hay what were you trying to get me to install, the forum didnt help
[06:06] <josiah> anybody here using hardy heron?
[06:06] <Invert314> desertc, proqesi, see, the version of pitivi installed is outdated accoridng to the official website....update-manager says my distro is up to date...
[06:06] <jay2xra> i even found a bug entry in firefox on my google search but it's in https... so i have to access the cached version...
[06:06] <desertc> darkkith: The three E's:  Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
[06:06] <Invert314> how do i upgrade? just hope someone updates the repos?
[06:06]  * mosno manually browses /var/lib/debtags and cries in the corner
[06:06] <proqesi> Invert314: the official ubuntu packages are not always the same version as the bleeding edge
[06:06] <darkkith> heh
[06:07] <jay2xra> i remember doing an update on my packages yesterday...
[06:07] <danloz> anybody have any guesses on this?
[06:07] <desertc> Invert314: That is fairly typical.  The Ubuntu version does not use the newest version.  The Ubuntu version goes through 4-6 months of testing before it is approved.
[06:07] <Pirate-King> from here is how I installed it http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecs-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[06:07] <Invert314> proqesi, the currrent ubuntu pacakge for pitivi is buggy, there is a fix in the bleeding edge version, though
[06:07] <Noogen> dan: try the troubleshooting section, try scanning several time - i had to scan several time before some show up
[06:07] <yaser> is there any application to trace what is happening since i login my account until session finishes loading?
[06:08] <FYI> danloz: you still here, man?
[06:08] <desertc> Invert314: As the manager of the application to work with the Ubuntu MOTU team to get their newer version packaged for testing.
[06:08] <Invert314> desertc, proqesi are there repos with bleeding edge apps?
[06:08] <danloz> FYI:  yeah
[06:08] <proqesi> Invert314: all software is buggy
[06:08] <FYI> danloz: any progress?
[06:08] <richard_> proqesi: kde4 isn't buggy! LOL
[06:08] <Noogen> dan: or just use networkmanager to manually enter your setting SSID, WEP, etc.. and see if it connect
[06:08] <richard_> jk
[06:08] <desertc> Invert314: You are welcome to use the beta-quality Hardy Heron
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate-King: There is a reason we tell people to try and stay in the official repos...  What was wrong with mplayer from official sites
[06:08] <aslan> hello, I have been running gutsy on my laptop for about 3 weeks now, my laptop is a dell xps m1530, everything has been working great including cpu scaling... well yesterday I tried to upgrade my nVidia driver to the latest from nvidia.com, and that broke cpu scaling.
[06:09] <Invert314> beta? i thought it was alpha?
[06:09] <danloz> FYI:  I'm trying Noogen's alternate firmware thing.
[06:09] <aslan> I went back to drive in apt, and scaling still isn't working... any ideas?
[06:09] <danloz> It hasn't slugged the processor yet
[06:09] <proqesi> Invert314: there are patches, cvs builds, other repositories, etc
[06:09] <Pirate-King> opps
[06:09] <desertc> Invert314: Alpha, beta, gamma --- it's all radioactive to me...
[06:09] <cratel> !cups
[06:09] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups.  (Your, Other People's, Web Sites, Authorities)
[06:10] <jonathan> man you guys are scaring me i got a way from windos cause i thought linux would run smoother without crashing lol
[06:10] <danloz> FYI:  stand by.  I'm going to kill my WAP for a minute and we'll try connecting directly
[06:10] <yaser> Hi, when I enter Gnome session, fusion-icon takes a while in starting so I dont have WM for some minutes , how can i check why is that delay?
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !ohmy > invert
[06:10] <aslan> desertc: can't you just change all the gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.list to hardy and run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:10] <Invert314> uh oh, did i violate a TOS?
[06:10] <Darkmystere> hello?
[06:10] <desertc> jonathan: I've never seen my system crash
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> coc
[06:10] <kaboombob> jay2xra only the ones that i have clicked yes on in websites
[06:10] <FYI> In Network settings, do you precede your WEP Hex key with 0x?
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !wep
[06:11] <ubotu> WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:11] <drgonzo00000> anyone have any suggestions for getting my sound to work
[06:11] <desertc> aslan: Ah, I've never installed it that way, but it does make sense.  Thanks for the help.
[06:11] <FYI> I should probably switch to WAP
[06:11] <FYI> that could be my problem
[06:11] <desertc> drgonzo00000: Did you read my link yet?
[06:11] <FYI> son of a bitch
[06:11] <aslan> FYI: or WPA even :)
[06:11] <FYI> !swearing
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swearing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <bazhang> ohmy
[06:11] <FYI> Yes, that's what I meant, excuse me
[06:11] <kaboombob> jay2xra oh and authorities
[06:11] <FYI> THERE IS HOPE.
[06:12] <jay2xra> kaboombob: I'm not seeing anything here.. not even authorities that my browser is trusting...
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate-King: You can try installing mplayer with synaptic.. but itis hit or miss once you try to install it from outside the repos
[06:12] <thinman1189> I'm trying to manually install firefox32, since I have 64bit, and when I try and extract the tar.gz file I get an error. any ideas? (I can't extract other tar.gz files as well)
[06:12] <danloz> trying to connect......
[06:12] <danloz> Nothing.  FAIL.
[06:12] <Pirate-King> ok
[06:12] <FYI> WPA shared key or WPA radius?
[06:12] <desertc> thinman1189: There is a 64-bit firefox package in the repositories.
[06:12] <drgonzo00000> desertc" yes
[06:12] <Collembolla> Hello everyone, I upgraded to gutsy from feisty when it came out, and since then the video playback (in VLC) has messed up, it stutters. Anybody have a solution, its very annoying!
[06:12] <kaboombob> jay2xra dang ive reinstalled firefox even and that didnt do anything for me
[06:13] <desertc> drgonzo00000: You set all the channels to 100%?  And no sound?
[06:13] <drgonzo00000> thanks but it didn't help
[06:13] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, download again. It's not completed.
[06:13] <drgonzo00000> yes
[06:13] <drgonzo00000> none
[06:13] <thinman1189> desertc : I need a java plugin that, according the the ubuntu java help page, is not available for 64.
[06:13] <desertc> drgonzo00000: Are your speakers turned on?  Try a pair of headphones in the port, instead.
[06:13] <danloz> FYI, Noog:  I'm going to try the trouble shooting stuff
[06:13] <kaboombob> jay2xra i can tell you what i have if you can figure out how to get them into your certificates
[06:13] <drgonzo00000> i've tried headphones and speakers
[06:13] <phoul> Im sure your tired of me by now i just have one last question for the day... whats the proper command to shut down a computer
[06:14] <desertc> thinman1189: Hmm - I don't use too much java.  Just javascript.  Not open source software, you know...
[06:14] <aslan> so anyone know how to fix cpu_scaling?  It was working and then I changed nvidia driver, that appears to have broke it.
[06:14] <jay2xra> kaboombob: yeah, did that too... no dice.. about to install another browser...
[06:14] <phoul> shutdown -h now ... computers really seem to hate
[06:14] <Collembolla> sudo halt
[06:14] <Invert314> proqesi, where do i go to add patches, cvs builds and other repositories?
[06:14] <aslan> phoul: rofl
[06:14] <jay2xra> kaboombob: nevermind the certificates..
[06:14] <aslan> phoul: sudo shutdown -h now
[06:14] <phoul> aslan, hiya
[06:14] <FYI> I love ubuntu, it uses like 20% of my memory
[06:14] <Noogen> ok, make sue you didn't blacklisted your bcm43xx, since i know some ndiswrapper documentation suggest to blacklist it
[06:14] <jfijodsjoijfids> i wish it would use more of my memory, since i got so much mroe to be utilized
[06:14] <phoul> thats what i thought aslan ... it just like... freaks on me lol
[06:14] <FYI> I want to keep it, but I can't keep it if I dont use wireless
[06:14] <Collembolla> anybody have a solution for me?
[06:14] <luchador|bbl> hey i tried playing this fps game through wine and i get a buffer overrun error.  when i play the linux version of the game i get like 10-15 fps
[06:14] <luchador|bbl> any ideas whats wrong
[06:14] <aslan> phoul: hehe
[06:15] <desertc> drgonzo00000: You need to do more troubleshooting, because if it works in ALSA, then it is playing somewhere...
[06:15] <thinman1189> desertc : yeah I know. I love java but I hate that sun has problems with open source. but I can't extract any other tar.gz file, so either my command is wrong or something is wrong with a setting somewhere.
[06:15] <phoul> aslan, like... seriously freaks out, I get all these driver errors then -poof- off
[06:15] <phoul> lol
[06:15] <Dr_willis> luchador|bbl,  you have installed the proper video card drivers for whatver card you have?
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> drgonzo00000: Did you go through the help tutorial we have for sound
[06:15] <FYI> Can I use WPA with my playstation 3 (before I change it)
[06:15] <drgonzo00000> desertc it doesn't work in alsa. it just detects it
[06:15] <Collembolla> anybody having crappy video playback after upgrading to gutsy from feisty? I have an Ati card running fglrx
[06:15] <Darkmystere> Well can some 1 help me with Direct Rendering
[06:15] <desertc> Jack_Sparrow: He did not
[06:15] <danloz> bcm43xx: FATAL ERROR: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR
[06:15] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, sun is developing opensolaris, and it's a competition. I'm thankfull that they do it at all.
[06:16] <luchador|bbl> when i reconfigured xorg, i think it did it for me
[06:16] <neeto> I want to get my ipod mounted but I don't know what device it's plugged into.
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[06:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Collembolla,  thers a lot of people with ati cards and 'dri' issues with the fglrx video drivers, from what i hear in here.
[06:16] <hsystemx> damn port, it was 7000 not 6667 ... damn ircs.
[06:16] <desertc> Jack_Sparrow: I will add that to my page
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:16] <Darkmystere> !MP3
[06:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:16] <drgonzo00000> jack_sparrow: can i get a link
[06:16] <thinman1189> cabrioleur : it may be open but it is a competition. it's a business model they don't actually care about open source.
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> the troubleshooting section takes care of most basic issues..  Is it hdaintel ?
[06:17] <kaboombob> anyone know what the equivelant of libnss3 is for fiesty
[06:17] <Collembolla> Dr_willis, really, figures. It worked perfectly fine in feisty. Do you think a clean reinstall might fix the issue (since I upgraded from feisty)?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> drgonzo00000: Look up
[06:17] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, opensolaris is open source. It's just different licence, and couple more rules.
[06:17] <hsystemx> #kubuntu
[06:17] <Dr_willis> i only do clean reinstalls Collembolla . and ive ditched all  ATI  video cards that i can. :)
[06:17] <drgonzo00000> jack_sparrow yes it is an hda-intel
[06:17] <danloz> back to NDISwrapper I go after i smoke.   I might just try that reinstall, I need my porn.
[06:18] <thinman1189> cabrioleur : yes but you don't see them going out of their way to help the open source community
[06:18] <cabrioleur> jay2xra, dillo, lynx, links, elinks.
[06:18] <Collembolla> ok that last bit was a joke
[06:19] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow How would i Enable Direct Rendering Need  it for somthing else now lol
[06:19] <desertc> Jack_Sparrow: You are a well of knowledge!  :-)
[06:19] <thinman1189> desertc : any idea why I can't extract tar files?
[06:19] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, there is no rules in business. I see canonical messing around as well.
[06:19] <thinman1189> cabrioleur : how so?
[06:19] <luchador|bbl> any gamers here
[06:19] <desertc> thinman1189: Are they corrupted?
[06:19] <crimsun> ugh, HdaIntelSoundHowto is broken.
[06:19] <jay2xra> cambrioleur: haha, text browser... better than nothing... at least they support https.. good thing you reminded me of them....
[06:19] <crimsun> you do _not_ need to upgrade alsa-utils and alsa-lib
[06:19] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, not on this channel. I'll get a ban :-)
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> I seldom come in here on weekends.. always during the week...
[06:19] <desertc> luchador|bbl: Everyone is a gamer, in their own way
[06:20] <luchador|bbl> k fps gamer
[06:20] <thinman1189> cabrioleur : lol, pm me if you wish to discuss it, then.
[06:20] <luchador|bbl> who uses ubuntu
[06:20] <portablejim> I have a core 2 Quad (being built. final parts pending) and am concerned about the heat-sink not sitting properly. onto the motherboard
[06:20] <FYI> alrighty
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: what is broken about it.. it comes up for me
[06:20] <thinman1189> desertc : it's the firefox download for linux, from their site. it gives me a funky error message in terminal.
[06:20] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: 01:19 < crimsun> you do _not_ need to upgrade alsa-utils and alsa-lib
[06:21] <danloz> FYI:  i'm going to try ndiswrapper again
[06:21] <proqesi> thinman1189: you need to install it with aptitude, you may have the wrong version
[06:21] <misc--> hello, has anyone ran Linux VServer on gutsy gibbon (as a host) ?
[06:21] <thinman1189> proqesi : I'm following the instructions found here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[06:21] <danloz> the deb fwcutter method that noog was talking abot didn't work.  It got the card running and recognized - but scans come back no go
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: I know people that have used that page in the last 24hours and got theirs working.. I will check it on monday just in case.
[06:22] <FYI> How do I check to see what is lagging my system?
[06:22] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: the culprit is alsa-driver (I should know as I've worked on it for years), not alsa-lib or alsa-utils.
[06:22] <FYI> I tried "top"
[06:23] <proqesi> thinman1189: in my experience that is pretty hard. you may need to do a lot of troubleshooting. flock installed easily for me
[06:23] <FYI> ksoftirqd is using lots of cpu, what is that
[06:23] <danloz> nop.  No I won't.  Still can't find NDIS wrapper.
[06:23] <kauer> hello everybody. I am looking for a database interface, a la MS Access, that allows straightforward construction of small DB applications. Any ideas?
[06:23] <desertc> Jack_Sparrow: I still think we need a script or a tool from ALSA called: "Not_Muted.sh" so people can be sure ALSA hasn't muted their sound / mic
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Do you have a link or a writeup on it...   You can also walk him through getting his to work
[06:24] <danloz> whereis returns:  /etc/ndiswrapper /usr/share/man/man8/ndiswrapper.8.gz but doesn't do anything.
[06:24] <crimsun> desertc: we're addressing that via known-working asound.states for various codecs.
[06:24] <desertc> kauer: mySQL is what you want
[06:24] <crimsun> desertc: look for it in 8.04.
[06:24] <FYI> How do I stop ksoftirqd from using 100% cpu?
[06:24] <thinman1189> proqesi : well this isn't the only time I haven't been able to extract a tar file. I can't extract any, and I always get the same error message. I'm probably just doing something wrong.
[06:24] <thinman1189> !pastebit
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <thinman1189> !pastebin
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[06:24] <desertc> crimsun: I tip my hat to your efforts.
[06:24] <danloz> Anybody have any gueses?
[06:24] <ira_gershwin> fyi, you could try ps -e
[06:24] <proqesi> thinman1189: tar -xvzf?
[06:24] <ira_gershwin> to find out what its id is
[06:24] <ira_gershwin> and then try kill -15
[06:25] <ira_gershwin> if that doesn't work, try kill -9
[06:25] <jay2xra> kaboombob: i just installed links2... it's working fine on https website...
[06:25] <ira_gershwin> the process id
[06:25] <ira_gershwin> this is all in terminal, by the way
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight people...play nice
[06:25] <thinman1189> proqesi : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51743/
[06:25] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: I helped write that how-to; I've maintained the alsa packages for years.  Plenty of people get their sound working only by updating the -driver.  That's the proper way.
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Perhaps someone should re-write that page...
[06:26] <thinman1189> proqesi :  from the command: tar -zxf firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[06:26] <ira_gershwin> hey here's a question for someone/the void, why when i compile something using c++/sdl does it only work on some windows systems?
[06:26] <FYI> ira_gershwin: it's ksoftirqd
[06:26] <proqesi> thinman1189: try what I showed you
[06:26] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: hence why I mentioned it being "broken"  :)
[06:26] <FYI> ira_gershwin: it sounds important
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: Do you hava link for updating the driver?
[06:26] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, do xzvf, it will tell you more.
[06:27] <proqesi> thinman1189: you need -xvf for .tar, -xzvf for tar.gz, and -xjf for tar.bz2
[06:27] <ira_gershwin> FYI: try googling the process name and see what comes up, i often do this to find out what the process really is
[06:27] <zethero1> I just got a brand new Desktop PC and was trying to load the Ubuntu Live session.... however I get this error after the Ubuntu boot menu: Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work.
[06:27] <ira_gershwin> FYI: actually in your system manager
[06:27] <zethero1> any ideas?
[06:27] <ira_gershwin> it'll just show you the id number
[06:28] <FYI> ira_gershwin: I did and it says "is aper-cpu kernel thread that runs when the machine is under heavu soft-interrupt load"
[06:28] <ira_gershwin> hmm
[06:28] <ira_gershwin> FYI: this'll seem like a square thing to say, but try a system restart before you get too worried about it
[06:28] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: the how-to is fine for -driver.  Only -lib and -utils need to be scrubbed from it.
[06:28] <ira_gershwin> FYI: i was freaked out when i thought i had a virus, firestarter kept showing this connection that wouldn't go away, turned out yahoo mail just doesn't release properly
[06:28] <kauer> desertc: I want an interface to a database, not the database itself. Or does mySQL include some kind of graphical application builder? Not a simple "see the tables" type interface, but one that allows data to be presented, modified, etc.
[06:28] <FYI> ira_gershwin: I did.. twice. It started after I installed/uninstalled WICD and had to resinstall network-manager
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun: I will make a note and try to get it fixed on Monday.. Thanks..
[06:29] <ira_gershwin> fyi: aah
[06:29] <crimsun> Jack_Sparrow: no, thank _you_
[06:29] <FYI> BRB, rebooting for the 20th time today
[06:29] <ira_gershwin> FYI: no, you shouldn't
[06:29] <desertc> kauer: I am not aware of a graphical interface, but I bet there is one available.  I am not familiar with the Access product that much.  Is it a relational database?
[06:29] <ira_gershwin> FYI: if you already did so many times
[06:29] <ira_gershwin> i doubt it'll help
[06:29] <hsystemx> zethero, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/54621
[06:30] <thinman1189> cabrioleur , proqesi : I do use -xzvf and I get that error message : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51743/
[06:30] <hsystemx> zethero1, take a look at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/54621
[06:30] <ForgetYouNot> where are cookies lcoated in ubuntu?
[06:30] <drgonzo00000> thanks to everyone who was helping me with my sound card. i got it to work
[06:30] <desertc> kauer: I just checked, it is.  So you just need a GUI to mySQL, and I am sure there are some out there.  I just don't know of one.
[06:30] <desertc> drgonzo00000: What was it?
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> drgonzo00000: glad to hear it
[06:30] <Invert314> proqesi, where do i go to add patches, cvs builds and other repositories?
[06:30] <kauer> desertc: MS Access is a truly horrible thing, but it does provide a simple way to build simple DB apps. I'm sure "there is a such a thing", that's why I asked about one :-)
[06:30] <musty> is there some sort of minimal installer, for ubuntu (somewhat like gentoo's minimal installer)
[06:30] <drgonzo00000> one of my lines was in quotes
[06:30] <Darkmystere_> Well? Sorry about not seeing other peoples help but keep disconnect ANybody reply to my problem..
[06:30] <Invert314> nothing on google
[06:30] <thinman1189> cabrioleur , proqesi : that error message from the command: tar -zxf firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight people...play nice
[06:30] <desertc> drgonzo00000: What kind of lines?
[06:30] <ira_gershwin> musty: what do you mean minimal?  if you're looking for a less intense gui there's xubuntu
[06:31] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, your file path is wrong.
[06:31] <ira_gershwin> musty: if you're looking for a text-based installer, there's an alternate cd that's text-based
[06:31] <Dr_willis> musty,  thers the server isntall. or theres the 'jeos' (just enough os) version.
[06:31] <Ximal> hey m8's.... how do I start the computer's sound if it doesn't start upon boot ? is there a command I can render ?
[06:31] <thinman1189> cabrioleur : as well as: tar -xvzf firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[06:31] <musty> great.
[06:31] <desertc> !sound |Ximal
[06:31] <ubotu> Ximal: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:31] <desertc> ximal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930
[06:31] <thinman1189> cabrioleur : what should it be?
[06:31] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, use the whole path, and make sure there's no typos.
[06:31] <FYI> and it's off again
[06:32] <kauer> desertc: Yes, I need a GUI to a database (not everyone is wedded to mySQL, you know ;-). I've seen plenty of database managers, which allow you to set up tables and views, browse the data and so on, but I'm after something that allows the data to be corraled into an app.
[06:32] <FYI> this effing shit is pissing me off
[06:32] <bkar> kauer-> open office have a jdbc interface to connect to most databases
[06:32] <cubexombi> which gui tool do i install for deb's in xfce?
[06:32] <ira_gershwin> fyi: sorry, don't know enough to help you out more sadly
[06:32] <Ximal> how do I uninstall vmware once i've installed it... also.. i cannot find it's uninstall.pl
[06:32] <drgonzo00000> desertc: options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba was in quotes at the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[06:32] <dn4> I just installed Gutsy ubuntu desktop and the sound device was not installed
[06:32] <ira_gershwin> fyi: i'm sure some ubuntu guru will straighten it out for you
[06:32] <FYI> ira_gershwin: I appreciate your help :)
[06:32] <dn4> how do I go about installing drivers or what not for my sound device?
[06:32] <cabrioleur> cubexombi, the same as in gnome.
[06:32] <ira_gershwin> no problem!
[06:32] <thinman1189> cabrioleur starting at home?
[06:32] <desertc> drgonzo00000: Ooooohhh.... Jack was right
[06:33] <desertc> !sound |dn4
[06:33] <ubotu> dn4: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:33] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, sure.
[06:33] <FYI> Oh, sweet. Apparently ksoftirqd can use 102% of the CPU
[06:33] <FYI> hahaha
[06:33] <drgonzo00000> desertc: i appreciate the help. thanks a lot. i understand its not very fun trying to troubleshoot others problems
[06:33] <desertc> drgonzo00000: Thanks for the update.
[06:33] <ira_gershwin> congrats!
[06:33] <hsystemx> lol
[06:33] <drgonzo00000> now everything is configured
[06:33] <desertc> drgonzo00000: Glad to hear you're fixed up. Hey...
[06:33] <jay2xra> anyone else having problems with firefox not being able to browse https after doing software upgrades recently?
[06:33] <heatmzzr> is there another choice besides gnome and kde. Just curious, not gonna switch.
[06:33] <desertc> drgonzo00000: Want some advice you'll thank me for later?
[06:34] <kauer> bkar: Thanks, yes I've tried JDBC and ODBc with OpenOffice and given up. It is either obtuse beyond all reckoning, or broken. Also, JDBC/ODBC are connectors - you still need an application above them. That's what I'm after - some kind of relatively simple application builder for simple (*simple*) DB apps.
[06:34] <ira_gershwin> fyi: if it's a real pain you might just want to try reinstalling your operating system without changing your actual files
[06:34] <drgonzo00000> it only took about 10 hours to configure wireless, vid card, and sound card
[06:34] <drgonzo00000> lol
[06:34] <aslan> ok so it looks like something is really screwed up with my laptop... if I manually modprobe all the cpufreq_scaling* modules then cpu scaling works again.. but it doesn't work on boot
[06:34] <ira_gershwin> fyi: i did it once before but i can't remember how now =/
[06:34] <aslan> ideas?
[06:34] <FYI> ira_gershwin: I've installed/reinstalled ubuntu like 4 times the past few days. first it was nvidia, wifi, trying to work wifi out and ksoftirqd appears :X
[06:34] <desertc> drgonzo00000: Make a backup of that file.  Save it in your /home directory, print it out somewhere, save it in a million places, because you'll bump into this again with that computer.
[06:34] <proqesi> thinman1189: cd to where the file is. by default, that would be cd ~/Desktop
[06:34] <malloc64> i upgraded ubuntu from feisty to gutsy on my hp pavilion zd8000. it now suffers from shutdowns with no warning on a fairly regular basis. i can find nothing in the logs to indicate why it is doing this. is this a know issue?
[06:34] <nickrud> aslan: as a workaround, add all the modules to /etc/modules they will load on boot
[06:34] <bkar> kauer well what do you want your app to do really? you seem to be looking for an app as opposed to jdbc connectivity to the db ?
[06:34] <ira_gershwin> fyi: oh i went through the nividia thing too, that was a bit of a trial
[06:35] <drgonzo00000> alrite well i'm out
[06:35] <drgonzo00000> i just wanted to thank everyone for the help
[06:35] <aslan> nickrud: ya but I wanna know why it worked, and now it's b0rked.. all I did was change the video card
[06:35] <drgonzo00000> =)
[06:35] <desertc> malloc64: Have you checked the bug database?
[06:35] <desertc> drgonzo00000: you're welcome, night
[06:35] <aslan> is there a way in ubuntu to tell when a package was last updated?
[06:35] <thinman1189> cabrioleur : ok I think it worked. but I don't see where it extracted to
[06:35] <aslan> so in rpm distros you can run rpm -qa --last
[06:35] <Flannel> aslan: changelog
[06:35] <FYI> ira_gershwin: I think I figured it out... I installed network-manager (without network-manager-gnome, which presumably 'seals' a leak)
[06:35] <ira_gershwin> fyi: you could always try reconfiguring your network settings, maybe something's wonky with them that it's perpetually checking
[06:35] <malloc64> desertc: i didn't see anything that was related to my machine or setup
[06:35] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, to the directory where you were typing from.
[06:35] <ira_gershwin> fyi: aaah
[06:35] <nickrud> aslan: if you used aptitude, you could check it's logs
[06:35] <FYI> BRB restart
[06:36] <aslan> nickrud: ya I used apt-get I'm pretty sure.. are there logs for that?
[06:36] <aslan> if so where are they located?
[06:36] <bkar> asian you may take a look at " dpkg dump "
[06:36] <desertc> malloc64: I've heard of people complaining of things like that in the past, although I never saw it.  I guess they never filed a bug against it.
[06:36] <Flannel> aslan: /var/log/dpkg
[06:37] <thinman1189> cabrioleur : for ease I had move it to the desktop but I don't see it there. the next instruction, after moving and renaming is: sudo mv firefox /usr/local/firefox32 but I can't find where it extracted to
[06:37] <desertc> malloc64: Sorry, I don't know the answer.  Cool IRC nick, though.  Night everyone else.
[06:37] <zethero1> hsystemx: ok I looked over that link... but thats is just wayyyy too over my head... and there is no answer in there anyhow...
[06:37] <aslan> cool, and what's the command to find out what package a file comes from?
[06:37] <aslan> dpkg -S ?
[06:37] <Flannel> aslan: yeah
[06:37] <tsukasa> hey guys how do i modify my fstab to do automagic mount --binds
[06:37] <malloc64> desertc: is there anywhere i can look for possible causes besides /var? so far i can see that the machine is shutting down (not a surprise), but there is no indication of error or why.
[06:37] <tsukasa> what do i put for the <file system>
[06:37] <nickrud> dang, how long has that log been around :0
[06:37] <cabrioleur> malloc64, monitor your temperature status.
[06:37] <aslan> hrmmm.. doesn't make sense.. ubuntu isn't detecting that my processors can scale now, but it did 2 days ago.
[06:38] <AnRkey> malloc64, have you checked /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog and also dmesg
[06:38] <AnRkey> malloc64, use grep to check for errors in thise
[06:38] <zethero1>  I just got a brand new Desktop PC and was trying to load the Ubuntu Live session.... however I get this error after the Ubuntu boot menu: Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work.
[06:38] <malloc64> cabrioleur: i have looked at that and it happens when it's been on for 3 minutes or when it's been heavily used for 9 days straight.
[06:39] <alpha232> Mornin yall..
[06:39] <kauer> bkar: yes, I am looking for an application builder. I want some way to easily (preferably via a GUI) construct simple DB applications (read/write/edit/report stuff). Ideally the app builder itself would use (say) JDBC or ODBC rather than be DB-specific.
[06:40] <hsystemx> zethero1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/54621
[06:40] <bkar> anyone have a multiple OS boot system in different hard disk and partitions? may you tell me how many entries your result of  "find /boot/grub/stage1 "  from boot>  command line?
[06:40] <malloc64> AnRkey: i have looked through all the syslogs by hand as well as any log provided in the gui log reader. i see when it is shutting down, but nothing to indicate why
[06:40] <malloc64>  AnRkey: but i will look again. i happened about 3 hours ago
[06:40] <AnRkey> malloc64, have you tried a clean install instead of an upgrade?
[06:41] <zethero1> hsystemx: thanks but thats no help
[06:41] <zethero1> anyone else got an idea of what to do?
[06:41] <bkar> kauer-> i had no problem using open office jdbc connectors, again why not write your own sql queries and have a ball with the results?
[06:41] <malloc64>  AnRkey: thoughts on downgrading back to feisty? this never happened once under that system but happened within 5 minutes of upgrading.
[06:41] <proqesi> thinman1189: it extracts to the same directory that the archive is in
[06:41] <kauer> bkar: really? What OS, what version of OO? I got nowhere.
[06:42] <AnRkey> malloc64, thats an idea
[06:42] <kauer> bkar: To be specific, OO kept bailing out (crashing).
[06:42] <malloc64>  AnRkey: i was hoping to avoid a fresh install of anything, but if that's the path theni suppose i must
[06:42] <bkar> kauer well i have not been using database recently, but as far back as suse 7.1
[06:42] <thinman1189> proqesi : so it should be in my home folder?
[06:42] <luchador|bbl> can i safely update from 6.06.1 to 7.x
[06:42] <luchador|bbl> without fulling installing a new 7.x
[06:42] <AnRkey> malloc64, you could then test the alpha 5 and release candidates for hardy to make sure it will work when released
[06:42] <bkar> kauer-> crashing in what ways? what were you doing when it was crashing?
[06:43] <proqesi> thinman1189: it should be on your desktop
[06:43] <malloc64>  AnRkey: i have never tried to downgrade, is that possible with apt, or am i looking at popping in the disc and wiping it all?
[06:43] <Flannel> luchador|bbl: You'd have to go 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04 to 7.10. OR you can just wait for a few more months, and upgrade straight from 6.06 to 8.04
[06:43] <thinman1189> proqesi :  it's not
[06:43] <AnRkey> malloc64, backup you whole home directory
[06:43] <AnRkey> i have never downgraded before
[06:44] <AnRkey> don't think it's possible
[06:44] <proqesi> thinman1189: you should have a firefox folder there
[06:44] <luchador|bbl> well the thing is
[06:44] <bkar> anyone have a multiple OS boot system in different hard disk and partitions? may you tell me how many entries is your result of  "find /boot/grub/stage1 "  from boot>  command line?
[06:44] <luchador|bbl> im getting horrible fps in this game
[06:44] <luchador|bbl> and wanna see if 7.x will fix it
[06:44] <luchador|bbl> idk why im getting such bad fps
[06:44] <malloc64>  AnRkey: didn't figure. i was just hoping that might have been an option since these things seem to be a little too common still.
[06:45] <thinman1189> proqesi : I don't
[06:45] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, you can use find/locate to find it.
[06:45] <Onyx> ugh, I really wish I could get amarok to use a gtk theme.
[06:45] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, weird beastie.
[06:46] <AnRkey> malloc64, no downgrade from what i see
[06:46] <bkar> anyone with multiple os boots? please as sudo root;  and in the grub> command line please find  /boot/grub/stage1 and tell me how many entries you have?
[06:46] <proqesi> thinman1189: what directory was the file in when you extracted it?
[06:46] <AutoMatriX> can somebody tell me how to confiugure the background color ? the one that is set up after the splash and just before the login screen ?
[06:46] <AnRkey> malloc64, i have done quite a few reinstalls in my ubuntu time
[06:46] <malloc64> ok, well thanks to  AnRkey, desertc, and cabrioleur for your input. hope to see you another time when things are working smoothly.
[06:46] <AnRkey> and all i do is backup my home directory for each user
[06:46] <danloz> Ok.  So.  If you install a program, yet the program still comes back uninstalled - what do you do?
[06:46] <AutoMatriX> hunchybunch, did'nt succeed with your method, must have don something wrong
[06:46] <AnRkey> malloc64, good luck :D
[06:47] <bkar> danloz-> installed ? how did you install it? a deb package?
[06:47] <jay2xra> holly cow! even konqueror is not working on https websites......
[06:47] <AnRkey> danloz,  sudo apt-get install -f
[06:47] <thinman1189> proqesi : here's what it extracting in terminal : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51744/ I did in fact find a firefox folder in my home folder, says it was last modified in november. I don't remember putting it there, and I'm not sure if my extracting would have counted as a modification/that was when this version was released.
[06:47] <Adlai> AutoMatriX: I think it's a gdm setting
[06:47] <malloc64> AnRkey: i have done a few more than i would have liked. but it's the price you pay working with hardware that is not well supported because of jack-hole vendors and manufacturers.  :)
[06:47] <AnRkey> danloz, then try install again
[06:47] <danloz> sudo apt-get install -f?
[06:47] <kauer> bkar: It's a while ago now. As far as I recall, the test connection would work, but any attempt to actually touch the database would cause a crash. What versions are you using? I'm on feisty with OO 2.2.0.
[06:47] <jay2xra> something's got to have wrong with that software upgrade...
[06:47] <cabrioleur> danloz, if it's not on the installed list if you type "sudo aptitude search name", then rm -Rfv :-)
[06:48] <malloc64> AnRkey thanks. good night
[06:48] <cabrioleur> danloz, or make uninstall if you can.
[06:48] <AnRkey> malloc64, dell dell dell and then maybe hp :D
[06:48] <malloc64> that's funny
[06:48] <AnRkey> ciao
[06:48] <cabrioleur> malloc64, good night.
[06:48] <bkar> kauer am switching back n forth between dapper and gutsy but i have not run databases on these..only on suse
[06:48] <kauer> bkar: If you haven't been using the database recently then....
[06:49] <AutoMatriX> Adlai, could ypu please be more specific ?
[06:49] <bkar> kauer what crashes? the database or your whole system?
[06:49] <cabrioleur> does anybody knows why rhythmbox needs nautilus-cd-burner?
[06:49] <Adlai> uhh, I think it's in administration > login menu
[06:49] <Adlai> or something like that
[06:50] <proqesi> cabrioleur: because it burns music to cd's?
[06:50] <bkar> no one at all have multiple boot that can assist me? just need to find out how many entries
[06:51] <cabrioleur> proqesi, nautilus-cd-burner doesn't burn audio. Beside, it's using cdrecord only.
[06:51] <navid> Hi, I need some help please. I was installing ubuntu, when i was asked to partition the drive i didnt know how to use only 40GB oh my harddrive
[06:51] <navid> so i went to manual, and click new Parition table
[06:52] <heatmzzr> anyone know the command to change colors in bitchx?
[06:52] <danloz> Somebody look at this, if you don't mind:  http://pastebin.com/d64b6f601
[06:52] <danloz> http://pastebin.com/d64b6f601
[06:52] <navid> now, I screwed my other partition, its not even there. It says free space
[06:52] <navid> Any help how I can undo this process please? I unfortunetly restarted my computer but it doesnt load anything says DISC error
[06:53] <navid> I have a 30gb ubuntu and a 200gb of free space, which was previously my windows harddrive
[06:54] <thinman1189> proqesi : that's the folder, but I don't know how to move it into the next folder. the next command I'm supposed to input is sudo mv firefox /usr/local/firefox32
[06:54] <danloz> I don't understand this.  Bash says it can't install it because it's there already.  But apt-ge if you try to run it, bash says it can't find it
[06:54] <cabrioleur> navid, gpart can attempt to recreate partitions.
[06:54] <proqesi> thinman1189: that command should work if you are in home and firefox folder is there as you said
[06:55] <navid> cabrioleur: You think it would fix my xp partition (I had over 100GB of data there..)
[06:55] <icesword> anyone here talking to me
[06:55] <Adlai> navid: if you boot with a windows repair disk and try running fixmbr you can probably get it back
[06:56] <Adlai> if you just changed the partition table, and didn't format
[06:56] <icesword> fixmbr fixboot fix
[06:56] <Adlai> (and, actually, you still stand a good chance if you did format)
[06:56] <cabrioleur> danloz, do you have errors when you type "sudo dpkg -r ndiswrapper"?
[06:56] <rico> hey guys. how can i simulate (via the command line) a text entry in the alt+f2 run box?
[06:56] <dibblego> how can I remove and reinstall cupsys without removing ubuntu-desktop, since I have the following error trying to upgrade cupsys http://rafb.net/p/gInqVk60.html
[06:56] <jetscreamer> navid: do not write to the disk at all
[06:56] <navid> Adlai: I didnt format it, it just says free space
[06:56] <rico> maybe something like, "gnome-run http://www.test.com" to launch the web browser
[06:56] <JerseyMonkey> Hi folks, I install Compiz Config Settings Manager and enabled Desktop Cube and Rotate Cube. When I do the command CTR+ALT+DOWN, it just shows me what active window I am on. How do I get the cube view?
[06:56] <thinman1189> proqesi : the folder is in home and I get the error mv: cannot stat `firefox': No such file or directory
[06:57] <sk_> .efnet.net
[06:57] <navid> I iwll go ahead and try the fixmbr, eventhough I tried it yesterday and didnt work
[06:57] <jetscreamer> navid: you can fix it but don't write to it till you do
[06:57] <thinman1189> proqesi : using the command sudo mv firefox /usr/local/firefox32
[06:57] <Adlai> navid: then yeah, don't touch it until you get a windows disk, and go to recovery console and run fixmbr
[06:57] <rico> JerseyMonkey , can you do ctrl+alt+left/right after you do ctlr+alt+down?
[06:57] <Adlai> also, run `help` in there and see if there's anything else that looks like it'll work...there's one other command you might try
[06:57] <Adlai> I forget what it is though
[06:57] <rico> JerseyMonkey , by default, you can check out the cube by middle-mouse-dragging the desktop I think. also ctrl+alt+mousedrag
[06:57] <Adlai> oh, right
[06:58] <Adlai> chkdsk /r
[06:58] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, make _sure_ the names are correct. Use tab tap often.  Sudden death.
[06:59] <jetscreamer> navid: more of a ##windows problem imo but whatever
[07:00] <jetscreamer> maybe more help
[07:00] <BloodyScum> is there a hotkey to min a program thats full screen? i have problems with that sometimes...
[07:00] <bkar> kauer oh well, i dont know if you have the right jdbc jars to connect...jars for specific db ..
[07:00] <mrbald> j/#ubuntu-it
[07:00] <ere4si> BloodyScum, you can map a key for hat yourself if you want
[07:00] <JerseyMonkey> rico,  CTR+ALT+LEFT/RIGHT let me switch workspaces like default. Down just shows the window of the two workspaces.
[07:01] <inazad> It is possible for a hacker to discover a root' password for ssh in remote ?
[07:01] <JerseyMonkey> rico, CTR+ALT+mouse drag doesn't do anything either
[07:01] <silent_> I'm planning to rip out my laptotps hard drive and use an SDHC flash card as the primary boot device for a dual boot Linux/WinXP, and I'm wondering what type of sd card is best for this sort of wear and what kind of lifetime it will have
[07:02] <cabrioleur> Adlai, fixmbr will write a new mbr (writing on the partition), and fsck will not report errors. navid can use gpart to recover partitions if everything is untouched.
[07:02] <navid> um i just did fixmbr
[07:02] <navid> does it suppose to return anything?
[07:02] <navid> Its not displaying anything
[07:02] <navid> I'll try fixboot
[07:02] <jetscreamer> you should ask in ##windows
[07:02] <jetscreamer> you shouldn't blindly try stuff
[07:02] <icesword> you may will also want to try this ,ms-sys
[07:02] <jetscreamer> you might mess it up
[07:03] <HeMan> Hi! Is there any KDE4 repository yet?
[07:03] <bkar> anyone with multiple os boots? please as sudo root;  and in the grub> command line please find  /boot/grub/stage1 and tell me how many entries you have?
[07:03] <cabrioleur> HeMan, long time.
[07:04] <heatmzzr_> how do I change colors of text in bitchx, what do I type at command line?
[07:04] <kauer>  bkar: yup, made very sure they were the right ones. Also got exactly the same symptoms attempting to connect to mysql, postgresql and oracle (with different connectors of course!).  As far as I am concerned, OO+DB is broken. So, back to my origibal question: Do you know of any DB app builders?
[07:04] <JerseyMonkey> Does anyone know of a guide for use of Compiz Setting's Manager?
[07:06] <bkar> kauer nope
[07:06] <kauer> silent_: flash can't be rewritten constantly - it wears out. You will have to make special provision to avoid too many writes - like turn off atime, maybe log across the network (or reduce logging to a minimum). If you separate system stuff from writable stuff you could even mount the flash RO...
[07:06] <dhamma> is there a way to start vino server remotely from ssh?
[07:07] <Spacecat> hey
[07:07] <Spacecat> i think im dying
[07:07] <Spacecat> seriously guys
[07:07] <bkar> dhamma would it be the same if you start it locally? you are already logged in to the system via ssh, so start it as if you were local?
[07:08] <silent_> kauer: what can I do to stop logging? and I should use ext2, and what else can I do/
[07:08] <Spacecat> clack clack nigga
[07:08] <silent_> kauer: is there a utility that can monitor drive reads/writes?
[07:08] <dhamma> i'm connect through putty (xp box) 'sudo vino-session' gives me: (vino-session:14172): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:09] <dhamma> Spacecat: i think 4chan is calling your name
[07:09] <Spacecat> naw
[07:09] <Spacecat> i hate 4chan
[07:10] <Spacecat> im trying to learn c++
[07:10] <thinman1189> cabrioleur , proqesi : the instructions say to use the command firefox32 &. here's the details : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51745/
[07:11] <runlevel> when i start X the resolution is not correct but once i run nvidia-settings  it resets the screen automatically and then its normal.. what is wrong?
[07:11] <PLSshowyourhelp> :)
[07:12] <runlevel> im using an HDTV at 1280x720
[07:12] <oddalot> are you using ubuntu?
[07:12] <runlevel> yes..
[07:13] <JerseyMonkey> What key is SUPER?
[07:13] <oddalot> do you have the resolution set in the system->preferences?
[07:13] <oddalot> the windows key is super on my computer
[07:13] <runlevel> oddalot: yes
[07:13] <oddalot> how about the screen
[07:13] <JerseyMonkey> Compiz 'Expo' is 'Super+E' but nothing happens with WINDOWS + E
[07:13] <oddalot> screen and graphics
[07:13] <runlevel> oddalot: its native resolution.
[07:14] <thinman1189> how do I check past commands?
[07:14] <oddalot> is the refresh rate correct?
[07:14] <runlevel> oddalot: everything is set right but i have overscan. but once i open the nvidia-settings app. it instantly fixes the overscan
[07:14] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, less ~/.history
[07:14] <oddalot> hmm....
[07:15] <cabrioleur> thinman1189, or you can type history
[07:15] <oddalot> have you tried running nvidia-settings on startup?
[07:15] <runlevel> like have it pop up the window ?
[07:15] <bmoney> is there a way you can make a website think you are running windows and are running ie
[07:16] <bmoney> when you are really running linux and firefox
[07:16] <FYI> danloz, you there
[07:16] <cabrioleur> bmoney, go to about:config and search for it.
[07:16] <Starnestommy> you could change your browser's user-agent string
[07:16] <oddalot> yeah...guess that's not a very practical solution
[07:16] <oddalot> ok
[07:16] <oddalot> have you tried reconfiguring the x package?
[07:16] <oddalot> that worked for me once
[07:16] <danloz> Nop.  Definitely didn't work
[07:16] <FYI> danloz: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=7949
[07:17] <runlevel> oddalot: yes. its just that for some reason X isnt using all the nvidia modules options until i run nvidia-settings for some reason
[07:17] <kauer> silent_: look at syslog.conf to see about controlling logging. Be aware that not everything logs through syslog. Dunno about logging reads and writes, but if you set the drive to RO when you mount it, you should get errors when things try to write that drive.
[07:17] <FYI> I am trying that right now, i hope it fricken works
[07:17] <oddalot> hmmm
[07:18] <oddalot> so you've tried this?
[07:18] <oddalot> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:18] <runlevel> yes
[07:18] <todd_> I have a smb share that I would like to allow everyone to write to (including non-authenticated) but I am having truoble with smb.conf.... help!
[07:18] <oddalot> hmm
[07:18] <oddalot> i am stuck too then
[07:18] <oddalot> i still have refresh rate problems
[07:18] <oddalot> lol
[07:18] <bkar> anyone with multiple os boots? please  sudo root;  and in the grub> command line please find  /boot/grub/stage1 and tell me how many entries you have?
[07:18] <bmoney> what do i put in to make it look like win xp running IE?
[07:19] <danloz> Are we sure that I don't have to enable the restricted driver to run ndiswrapper?
[07:19] <oddalot> danloz: i thought you did
[07:19] <danloz> ah.  Ok
[07:20] <bkar> ndiswrapper is for network stuff, not for video
[07:20] <cabrioleur> danloz, nope. But I'm a freebsd user with slackware experience, and I know ubuntu only from documentations :-)
[07:20] <ere4si> bkar: only get one - the last os installed
[07:20] <oddalot> system->admin->restricted driver manager
[07:20] <danloz> ok lets reboot and see what happens
[07:21] <cabrioleur> danloz, ndiswrapper is not restricted in any possible way. Furthermore, it doesn't use any module from restricted.
[07:21] <FY1> Wow! didn't work
[07:21] <bkar> ere4si-> you have multiple os installed in different partitions right? and you only get one entry per my question?
[07:21] <FY1> surprise surprise
[07:21] <runlevel> oddalot: it shows that the restricted module IS being used.
[07:21] <oddalot> ok
[07:21] <oddalot> what's the problem?
[07:22] <silent_> kauer: where will the errors be? on startup?
[07:22] <runlevel> overscan on the screen(hdtv) upon bootup. but once i open nvidia-settings  .. as soon as it opens up.. it automatically fixes the overscan. i need the over scan to stay fixed through a reboot
[07:23] <Hansman> hello guys
[07:23] <ere4si> bkar, I have at the moment - ubuntu - knoppix and mepis - and only one stage one grub - don't know alot aabout this but had to reinstall grub due to errors and mepis grub - the last install had stage one
[07:23] <danloz> Ok
[07:23] <cabrioleur> runlevel, check your xorg.conf
[07:23] <danloz> let's try this again
[07:23] <Whuutdup> ubuntu is 4 fags, i hate it
[07:23] <lonejack> hi, yesterday I was looking to install an ubuntu server on an old pc (just to get confidence). During installation the system asked me information about disk quota. I didn't expect this question. I stopped the installation I need more info. Looking on forums seem that the server version is a reduced form of desktop. That is: every thing I do with server can be done with desktop. So, my ask is there any differences on how the t
[07:23] <lonejack> wo versions manage the disk? Thank you...
[07:23] <jcg42> I need a way to find out my motherboard model. Maybe something like CPU-Z?
[07:23] <runlevel> cabrioleur: can you elaborate please
[07:24] <danloz> hey, in my running around I accientally got rid of the network manager in the upper right hand corner of the screen
[07:24] <todd_> I have a smb share that I would like to allow everyone to write to (including non-authenticated) but I am having truoble with smb.conf.... what I thought would work, didn't... help!
[07:24] <danloz> how do I get that back?
[07:24] <cabrioleur> runlevel, paste your xorg.confg
[07:24] <runlevel> cabrioleur: one sec lemme pastebin it
[07:24] <bkar> ere4si-> these different OS's are in different partitions for you right? its odd that it will only show one stage1 for all of them
[07:24] <Hansman> does anyone know anything about getting the audigy 2 zs sound card working?
[07:25] <borndeer> Is there anyone using FreeMind 0.9.0-beta15 ?
[07:25] <oddalot> jcg42...open the case
[07:25] <arooni_> when i plug in my flash drive
[07:25] <arooni_> nothign ahppens
[07:25] <arooni_> on gutsy
[07:25] <cabrioleur> danloz, sudo NetworkManagerDispatch && NetworkManager
[07:25] <bkar> danloz  network-manager
[07:25] <bkar> danloz rather network-admin
[07:26] <ere4si> bkar, they can only boot in different partitions - sudo grub from a live cd  - find /boot/grub/stage1 etc
[07:26] <arooni_> ideas?
[07:26] <runlevel> cabrioleur: http://pastebin.com/m2ccb09b7
[07:26] <Hansman> audigy 2 zs install?
[07:27] <kenro> Can anyone tell me why my KDE doesn't startup into kwin? And what's up with KDM listing EVERY DAMN USER IN LOCALHOST??!
[07:27] <bkar> ere4si-> can you kindly do this,  as root  type grub, and off course you get grub> promt, then type  find /boot/grub/stage1  only list one line for you?
[07:27] <bkar> ere4si-> to exit just type exit from grub> prompt
[07:28] <bmoney> what is the default useragent for firefox browser?
[07:28] <bmoney> in gutsy
[07:28] <Onyx> what's with synaptic not using my gtk theme?
[07:28] <bmoney> Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>/?
[07:28] <todd_> could someone with smb knowledge look at http://pastebin.com/m2d437388 for me... especially [public]
[07:29] <bmoney> i forgot what was there by default, can anyone check?
[07:29] <bmoney> !ot
[07:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:30] <jonathan> anyone ever install ubuntu first then windows without problems?
[07:30] <Hansman> yes
[07:30] <ere4si> tbkar: typed sudo grub - grub isn't permissioned without sudo for my user - still get one entry - the last install - what errors do you get - or issues?
[07:30] <Hansman> no problems
[07:30] <Hansman> to jonathin
[07:31] <jonathan> cool
[07:31] <Hansman> but, you will write over grub
[07:31] <todd_> jonathan: I don't think so, however I installed ubuntu, then windows, then the bootloader no problem
[07:31] <Hansman> you will need to reinstall grub
[07:31] <icesword> why does kubuntu 8.04 still post a LTS edition with unstable kde 4?
[07:31] <jonathan> boot loader?
[07:32] <GeorgeA> OpenGL executables are running weirdly on my ubuntu, all the programs don't have borders, and some of them don't even show anything, the sceen is as if the program's minimized (which of course it isn't) is there a way to fix it?
[07:32] <Hansman> does anyone know how to get the audigy 2 zs sound card working ??
[07:32] <Hansman> jon, GRUB boot loader, to swich between linux and winblows
[07:32] <n2diy> icesword: 08.4?
[07:32] <bkar> ere4si-> here is my problem, i have multiple Os in 2 diff hard disk and partitions, I had replaced hd2 and installed another os and works, now if I  put back the original hd2, it wont boot anymore, its said Grub error 15,
[07:32] <todd_> jhonathan: bootloader=the thing that loads your os (the windows bootloader only loads windows)
[07:32] <icesword> n2diy, yes
[07:32] <Hansman> jon, ues
[07:32] <Hansman> yes
[07:33] <Hansman> grub will let you choose between linux and windows at boot
[07:33] <jonathan> thanks
[07:33] <todd_> could someone with smb knowledge look at http://pastebin.com/m2d437388 for me... especially [public]
[07:33] <n2diy> ! icesword + ubuntu+1
[07:33] <Hansman> does any one know how to get the audigy 2 zs sound card working??????
[07:34] <n2diy> ! icesword | ubuntu+1
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icesword - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <FY1> what is this no installation candidate bullshit?
[07:34] <kr00l> i installed crossover linux but i don't see it in my "applications" menu. Anyone know how to get it running?
[07:34] <FY1> !no installation candidate
[07:34] <n2diy> ! ubuntu+1 | icesword
[07:34] <ubotu> icesword: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:34] <ere4si> bkar: you re wrote the mbr with the install to the new disk - so of course the system can't find the disk you put back - you may need to have the three disks hooked up at once
[07:35] <Lartza8> Hansman: you get no sound or ant more power/fetures out of sound card?
[07:35] <Hansman> no sound
[07:36] <Lartza8> Hansman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194203
[07:36] <Hansman> thanks a lot
[07:36] <Lartza8> not sure if it works, but give it a shot
[07:36] <Hansman> yep
[07:36] <icesword> n2diy, that is a very cool command.:)
[07:37] <kr00l> I installed Crossover linux, restarted my computer and I can't find it in the "Applications" list. Can someone help me run it?
[07:37] <bkar> ere4si-> yes, i wrote the mbr
[07:37] <n2diy> icesword: Bots are cool.
[07:37] <icesword> hehe
[07:37] <Hansman> !
[07:38] <Lartza8> why arent my programs showing on upside panel anymore?
[07:38] <Lartza8> like pidgin, i'm running xubuntu
[07:38] <bkar> ere4si-> can I not remodify what entries it has on the mbr? my default boot is in hd1 not in hd2 ( I already modified menu.lst for this)
[07:38] <Lartza8> Hansman: got sounds?
[07:38] <ere4si> bkar: so the mbr shows what was installed the last time you wrote it - not what was installed previously
[07:39] <Hansman> nah, i found something better on it, terminal alsamixer
[07:40] <Lartza8> wow
[07:40] <Lartza8> kinds nice looking
[07:40] <Onyx> Can anyone here connect to gnome-look.org?  I'm having some trouble here, which is odd, because I can connect to a lot of other sites.
[07:40] <ere4si> bkar: /boot/grub/menu.lst is for the grub loader that reads the mbr - to rewrite the mbr is beyond me except for an install..sorry
[07:40] <osgood> hello all
[07:41] <bkar> ere4si-> would I be able to modify the last mbr written within grub> like  root hd0,1  and then setup hd0,1  ?
[07:41] <Hansman> gnome-look doesnt work
[07:41] <Lartza8> i cant get to gnome-look.org
[07:41] <Lartza8> maybe server down
[07:41] <Hansman> yeha
[07:41] <todd_> ere4si: you have it backwards, the mbr reads menu.lst
[07:42] <Lartza8> Hansman: got sound?
[07:42] <Hansman> yes thanlk you
[07:42] <bkar> ere4si-> maybe time to update your knowhow, want to try this "setup" within grub prompt?
[07:42] <vic_> yes i've got sound
[07:42] <vic_> the mbr reads the menu?
[07:42] <vic_> lol of course it does
[07:43] <ere4si> bkar: the mbr determines what grub can boot
[07:43] <vic_> the mbr has always been real root
[07:43] <todd_> vic_: yes mbr=master boot record... its a low level application... it delegates to grub/windows io.sys
[07:43] <bkar> ere4si-> yes, correct, but grub can be re-installed into mbr right?
[07:44] <bkar> like that command grub-install  ?
[07:44] <ere4si> bkar: no - it reads the mbr
[07:45] <stumped> I can ssh from my laptop to my ubuntu box, but for some reason I can't connect to the net from my ubuntu box. I've ruled out my firewall. Anyone have any ideas?
[07:45] <todd_> bkar: grub is a 2 part thing... you can have another bootloader load grub (that would be the mbr), or grub can also be used as a bootloader (then it would be the mbr)... grub, and grub mbr are 2 seperate things
[07:45] <Lartza8> why you have an firewall?
[07:45] <Lartza8> server?
[07:46] <icesword> ubotu:info pcc
[07:46] <ubotu> Package pcc does not exist in gutsy
[07:46] <icesword> oh,i am sorry
[07:46] <todd_> could someone with smb knowledge look at http://pastebin.com/m2d437388 for me... especially [public]
[07:47] <bkar> todd_-> okay, i know its a 2 part thing, its complaining that it cant find the correct stage1.5, so i need to update whatever is in the mbr with the correct stage 1.5
[07:47] <arooni_> can someone help me get my flash drive working?
[07:48] <msl> arooni_: have you plugged it in
[07:48] <todd_> bkar: installing grub, just installs the application, you need to rewrite your mbr with the grub mbr
[07:48] <arooni_> msl, yes
[07:48] <todd_> bakar: sorry, i'm not a grub expert, do know a bit about the mbr though
[07:48] <bkar> todd_-> and is that done via  grub-install command?
[07:48] <arooni_> nothing gets recognized
[07:49] <arooni_> mlpug, usually a window pops up with its contnets
[07:49] <msl> can you open a terminal and type    dmesg
[07:49] <todd_> bkar: Dont know did you read man grub?
[07:49] <bluefoxx> frostwire wont run for me anymore
[07:49] <bluefoxx> terminal output says my java enviro is invalid
[07:49] <bkar> todd_-> yes, its just unclear on this part about using grub-instal
[07:49] <bkar> l
[07:50] <WhuutdupNumba2> O RLY??
[07:50] <msl> arooni_: dmesg     will show you where the device is located.  ex. /dev/sda
[07:50] <todd_> bkar: you could also install ubuntu, only exit after the actual install starts, should work... how i did it
[07:50] <bluefoxx> i checked and i has two sun java JRE installed, sun-java5-bin and sun-java6-bin
[07:50] <WhuutdupNumba2> I wouldn't trust "todd_" if i were you people
[07:50] <WhuutdupNumba2> he ucks
[07:51] <kenro> Can anyone answer my question on kde4?
[07:51] <arooni_> msl, should i just paste it somewhere
[07:51] <bkar> bluefoxx  update-alternatives config java
[07:51] <stumped> host google.com returns addresses ... but for some reason I cant ping google.com?
[07:51] <FY1> hmm
[07:51] <todd_> bakar: if you'd like another way, WhuutdupNumba2 has ideas for you
[07:51] <bkar> lol
[07:51] <WhuutdupNumba2> rm -rf
[07:51] <ere4si> bkar: the last install writes the grub - you changed disks then installed so of course the previous disk isn't recognised
[07:51] <bluefoxx> bkar: whats that?
[07:52] <bkar> where the heck are the ops?
[07:52] <todd_> bkar: be carefull!
[07:52] <ko1> whats the basic difference b/w bash and ash????
[07:52] <Xaosratt> Simple Q, Im copying 10gb of data (root FS) from a 100gb to a 76gb. Used cp -a to do it. Looks like I have to edit the fstab to account for the new drives different uuid, are there any other things I need to look at as well?
[07:52] <msl> arooni_: do you see anything that says [sda] or [sdb]?
[07:52] <todd_> could someone with smb knowledge look at http://pastebin.com/m2d437388 for me... especially [public]
[07:53] <bkar> bluefoxx  update-alternatives --config java   missed the two --
[07:53] <arooni_> msl, i think so: [   15.336000] Adding 2063840k swap on /dev/sda6.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:2063840k
[07:53] <ko1> do anyone knows about ash shell here???
[07:53] <todd_> kol: ash or bash/
[07:54] <bluefoxx> bkar: im still confused, please explain
[07:54] <heatmzzr> anyone here familiar with bitchx?
[07:54] <bkar> ere4si-> I agree with you, now my next step is to reinstall the mbr and recognize my original hd2 instead of the new one
[07:54] <Onyx> Can anyone here connect to gnome-look.org?
[07:54] <Adlai> Onyx: nope, seems to be down
[07:54] <mkquist> onyx - no appears to be down
[07:54] <ko1> ash
[07:54] <bkar> bluefoxx-> umm man update-alternatives for better explanation..i gave you how to select which java
[07:55] <heatmzzr> is down i believe
[07:55] <Onyx> Adlai: mkquist: okay, good -- i was worried it was just me :)
[07:55] <kenro> heatmzzr:  BitchX... pos irc client.
[07:55] <Drikus> hi
[07:55] <ere4si> bkar: plug in the original disk then from a live cd type in terminal    sudo grub     find  /boot grub/stage1
[07:55] <arooni_> msl, you there?
[07:55] <msl> arooni_: I think you are looking too far back.  If you unplug and replug the device, at the very bottom of the dmesg output it should say "usb-storage: device found at ??" and then will show [sda] or [sdb] or similar which is where the device is located
[07:55] <Onyx> kenro: what?  Dude, BitchX is awesome.
[07:55] <Drikus> is it possible to make a custom 64bit kernel with the gutsy 32ul
[07:55] <vraa> hello, how do i get sudo access in file browser for gui file operations?
[07:55] <Onyx> Drikus: I just did it today.
[07:55] <heatmzzr> kenro, im using it.. trying to change regular color to bright green, dunno the command to do it
[07:55] <todd_> Ony: Nope, I am following the google link, and nothing... probably down... try again in 2 hours
[07:55] <arooni_> msl, ah in that case i'm not seeing any such message ... its like ubuntu never sees it :9
[07:55] <Onyx> kenro: though irssi is better imo.
[07:56] <Drikus> Onyx: ok
[07:56] <bkar> ere4si-> would it not be the same since am already booted right now, i just type grub as root and get the boot prompt, then type  find /boot/grub/stage1  which btw gave me 3 entries
[07:56] <bluefoxx> bkar: ok, all i wanted to know, i dont like executing unknown commands as i dont want something like a discuised "sudo rm -r /" type comand in disguise[i did that on a  live CD by accedent once, was coruis]
[07:56] <bkar> rather 4 entries
[07:56] <Drikus> Onyx: did this in gentoo before not sure if there are any limitations with gutsy to watch out for. thanks
[07:56] <Adlai> bluefoxx: then don't enter any forkbombs either
[07:57] <Onyx> Drikus: Building the kernel is different than it was in Gentoo.
[07:57] <bkar> bluefoxx be friends with man pages
[07:57] <msl> arooni_: That is weird.  Are you using other USB devices?  And have you ever had it working before?
[07:57] <shrug> to get windows running vm, do i need vmware server, player or workstation?
[07:57] <bkar> bluefoxx if someone gave you a command, you can always man command
[07:57] <arooni_> msl, no, and yes
[07:57] <Drikus> Onyx: found this tutorial with some specific ubuntu stuff http://www.ubuntutips.net/node/13
[07:58] <todd_> bluefoxx: try using man to find out for yourself based on what they tell you
[07:58] <ogre> what is the easiest way to install fonts?
[07:58] <arooni_> msl, i'm not seeing anything new happen after [3422.xxxx]
[07:58] <ere4si> bkar: if it gives three entries then choose the one that boots the disk you can't boot - seems simple that way
[07:58] <shrug> !vmware
[07:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:58] <bluefoxx> Adlai: lol, i found a code for forkbombs on wikipedia, and the dude sitting next to me made the shortcut to IE a shortcut to the forkbomb he wrote off wikipedia[we all hate windows and school computers running it]
[07:58] <msl> arooni_: In that case I don't know what is going on.
[07:58] <vraa> hello, how do i copy a file when it says i do not have access. where do i enter the root password
[07:59] <arooni_> msl, hmmmmmmmmmmm oh noes
[07:59] <vraa> i cannot just drag and drop in file browser?
[07:59] <bluefoxx> bkar: ok, ty, will man <comand> in future
[07:59] <todd_> vraa: you dont generaly want to do that kind of thing as root willy nilly... so when you need to use a shell
[08:00] <vraa> what do i type to do that?
[08:00] <vraa> i know kinda how to use a shell
[08:00] <bkar> ere4si-> somehow your last statement, I didnt quite read or comprehend correctly
[08:00] <vraa> i just copy paste stuff from the forums
[08:00] <todd_> vraa; or change the permissions on the destination
[08:00] <vraa> can i change the permissions on the destination from the gui?
[08:01] <todd_> vraa: what are you trying to do specificaly?
[08:01] <vraa> well i have a spare box here, and i figure i'm going to use it to learn ubuntu
[08:01] <vraa> and the best way i've found to learn stuff is by breaking it
[08:01] <vraa> so i'm gonna upgrade to hardy using the apt-get method
[08:02] <vraa> but it's failing on a problem, bug report 182222, there is a downloadable fix though
[08:02] <vraa> and i am trying to copy it to the correct folder
[08:02] <todd_> vraa: ok, well linux is remarkably break resistant via the gui... so thats a good thing right???
[08:02] <WhuutdupNumba2> My Freinds!
[08:02] <vraa> i have a mac, so whenever i do file copy stuff into restricted folders, it gives me an entry to a password
[08:02] <WhuutdupNumba2> I am going to log off!
[08:02] <bluefoxx> bkar: ok, tyvm; JAVA and frost are running again[the terminal is my friend X3]
[08:02] <todd_> vraa: if you want something thats easy to break, I recomend windows vista
[08:02] <WhuutdupNumba2> Wish me luck!
[08:03] <vraa> lol no vista is expensive. i want to learn how to use a free os
[08:03] <ere4si> bkar: if you install the drive that you are having trouble with - then use a live cd and in termijnal type sudo grub  find /boot/grub/stage1 and get three options then choose the one that boots the drive that you are having trouble booting :)
[08:03] <todd_> vraa: nope.. you are going to have to shell to do "evil things"
[08:03] <msl> vraa: I would copy it to your home directory (or Desktop) and then move it from there.
[08:03] <vraa> i can give a free os on laptops i ship to family across the world
[08:03] <vraa> okay i can do evil things
[08:03] <runlevel> how do i change my emerald theme?
[08:04] <vraa> i am not too averse to terminal
[08:04] <vraa> what's the command to move a file?
[08:04] <bkar> ere4si-> but once I choose it, what is the command to then write the mbr, now am back to my original and everything is A okay?
[08:04] <msl> vraa: mv
[08:04] <todd_> vraa: sure... example evil thing that is bad for ubuntu... DO NOT TRY!!! sudo rm -rf /
[08:05] <vraa> lol i know :)
[08:05] <vraa> i've heard it in jokes on bash
[08:05] <msl> vraa: But it sounds as though you need root privileges for where you are moving it to, so you will need to   sudo mv theFile theDestination
[08:05] <todd_> vraa: do a man mv from shell, folowed by a man man
[08:05] <vraa> yep just did it, restarting dist-upgrade
[08:05] <vraa> yeah i did man mv first
[08:06] <todd_> vraa: what did you not understand from man mv?
[08:06] <vraa> oh i understood it
[08:06] <todd_> vraa: ok good
[08:06] <vraa> i didn't know it was mv
[08:07] <todd_> vraa: do a man man and check out the -k option
[08:07] <ere4si> bkar: find /boot/grub/stage1 gave you an address - so then itv is   root (hd0,?)[which is the address]     setup (hd0))    quit
[08:08] <bkar> ere4si->  okay , thank you, setup was the command I was seeking..
[08:08] <ere4si> bkar: let us know how  it goes pls
[08:08] <vraa> oh man this is so much stuff
[08:08] <vraa> lol
[08:08] <bkar> ere4si-> be back in a bit
[08:08] <todd_> could someone my smb.conf at look at http://pastebin.com/m2d437388 for me... especially the [public] section
[08:08] <ere4si> k bkar
[08:09] <minilek> hi. does anyone using the nvidia proprietary drivers with gutsy have the issue that they can't change their resolution? mine's stuck at 1024x768, and I can't change it (I can't even lower it).
[08:09] <todd_> vraa: the only command you NEED to know is man man... everything else can be found from that
[08:09] <stumped> I've disable ipv6, setup my ip, netmask & gw, setup dns in resolv.conf; but I still can't connect to the net, can anyone point me in a new direction?
[08:10] <hunchybunch> minilek, you probably need to add different resolutions to your xorg.conf - that would be my guess
[08:10] <Tsyn> ?
[08:11] <Adlai> stumped: have you tried turning it on and off again?
[08:11] <minilek> hunchybunch: thank you for the suggestion, though i have tried this in the "Modes" section of xorg.conf. it didn't work.
[08:11] <Adlai> s/on and off/off and on
[08:11] <monzie> Hi all
[08:11] <ere4si> stumped, what is  the connection?
[08:11] <stumped> Adlai: several times for different reasons
[08:11] <monzie> I want to setup a KDE4 dev env
[08:11] <stumped> ere4si: ethernet
[08:11] <monzie> I need the header files and libs, not the entire source
[08:12] <PLSshowyourhelp> 23123
[08:12] <monzie> essentially the SDK. Could someone help me out with it?
[08:12] <Adlai> stumped: it was a tv reference, not a serious suggestion, sorry
[08:12] <navid> Gpart shuts down my keyboard when I select any configuration
[08:12] <stumped> Adlai: IT Crowd. I know ... but still worth a shot :)
[08:12] <ere4si> stumped,  tried the default dhcp?
[08:12] <todd_> monzie: you want someone to teach tou how to program?
[08:13] <stumped> ere4si: nope
[08:13] <todd_> could someone my smb.conf at look at http://pastebin.com/m2d437388 for me... especially the [public] section
[08:13] <navid> Anyone know any help? I burned gparted to fix my partition but i seem to have a few problems
[08:13] <hunchybunch> stumped, why didn't you use the network manager to set it up?
[08:13] <vinicius> hi! anyone knows where inkscape saves a recovery file after crashing?
[08:13] <ere4si> stumped, that always gives me ethernet joy :)
[08:13] <navid> 1) on the boot menu of gparted i dont know which configuration to select to repair xp
[08:13] <navid> 2) my keyboard dies
[08:14] <stumped> hunchybunch: i'm running the server version
[08:14] <Xaosratt> Need some help with UUIDs here. I changed a partion on my drive and aparently all the UUIDs changed as a result. I updated the fstab to account for this but I'm still getting an invalid UUID error on boot (cat /proc/modules or something like that is the command that throws the error right after grub hands off). WHere else to I need to update?
[08:14] <heatmzzr> anyone here use bitchx?
[08:14] <ridius> I am unable to get the blackdown java plugin to work on Gutsy 64. Everything installs and I set the correct symlinks but the plugin doesn't load. Any ideas?
[08:14] <minilek> heatmzzr: yes
[08:15] <monzie> todd_: i just need the name of the packages
[08:15] <hunchybunch> stumped, did you make your change to /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:15] <stumped> ere4si: the actual connection works ... ie. I'm ssh'd to it from a different laptop ... but for some reason that one box just wont get on the net
[08:15] <adsfwe> crazy nfsd sitiatuion.
[08:15] <heatmzzr> minilek, how do I change the colors, mainly just the main channel color to bright green?
[08:15] <stumped> hunchybunch: yep
[08:15] <monzie> todd_:  there is "kde-devel" package for kde 3.5
[08:15] <todd_> monzie: which sdk, I MAY be able to help
[08:15] <adsfwe> reason given by server: Permission denied when trying to mount
[08:15] <monzie> todd_: Are there simliar packages for KDE4?
[08:16] <todd_> monzie: sorry, dont know try synaptic
[08:16] <hunchybunch> stumped, did you if down if up?
[08:16] <monzie> todd_:  something like kde4-devel? or kde4-sdk? or something similar
[08:16] <minilek> heatmzzr: sorry, i've never tried messing with the colors
[08:16] <adsfwe> where does nfsd log to?
[08:16] <heatmzzr> arrggh, ok
[08:16] <monzie> todd_: cant find anything similar :(
[08:16] <heatmzzr> lol
[08:16] <minilek> hunchybunch: do you know anything else that might cause not being able to change resolution ?
[08:16] <ere4si> stumped, not a standard setup - the setup you run then?
[08:16] <stumped> hunchybunch: yeah ... whenever I made changes
[08:17] <todd_> could someone my smb.conf at look at http://pastebin.com/m2d437388 for me... especially the [public] section
[08:17] <hunchybunch> minilek, i am inexperienced with nvidia - maybe you make the changes within the proprietary driver itself, i dunno
[08:17] <marshall> i installed gutsy a couple days ago and i heard there was some kind of problem with the Flash plugin, is there any way i can get flash9 working in firefox?
[08:18] <icesword> marshall,how about www.adobe.com
[08:19] <marshall> icesword: does that actually work or are you being a dick?
[08:19] <heatmzzr> marshall, you mean to play like youtube files and such?
[08:19] <hunchybunch> marshall, i uninstalled flash completely, then i took firefox to youtube, and it installed perfectly (I think :P) - try that and see what happens
[08:19] <jklfdjskl> hah
[08:19] <marshall> hunchybunch: ok, thanks
[08:19] <icesword> marshall, it should
[08:19] <ere4si> minilek,  what driver did you install? pls
[08:19] <marshall> icesword: ok, ill try it
[08:19] <stumped> ere4si: pretty standard as far as I can tell ubuntu 7.10 server edition running on a generic i386 machine
[08:20] <heatmzzr> i used the synaptics, to get flash to work, just have to make sure no conflicts with versions 5 and 6
[08:20] <marshall> hunchybunch: what did you do to uninstall flash completely?
[08:20] <minilek> ere4si: the latest proprietary driver from the nvidia website (version 169.07)
[08:20] <BlackSunrise> dude ubuntu is difficult
[08:20] <marshall> hunchybunch: i think the only thing i had installed for it was flashplugin-nonfree
[08:20] <BlackSunrise> i installed updates and now i can't use java irc
[08:21] <BlackSunrise> lol
[08:21] <BlackSunrise> and i can't find a wine prog for ubuntu
[08:21] <hunchybunch> sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[08:21] <heatmzzr> blacksunrise, not imo. Ive used alot of different OS's and i found Ubuntu very easy to install
[08:21] <BlackSunrise> i just can't figure out how to get wine
[08:21] <BlackSunrise> :p
[08:21] <bpurgari> i got another problem, i had "PCI: Bios bug found #81 ..." something error message every time i start ubuntu 7.10. I updated all the packages, and its still there. Working on a laptop with Phoenix Trusted core bios, Intel 945GM + ICH7M chipset. Any ideas what might be the problem?
[08:22] <bpurgari> any1 knows anything bout this?
[08:22] <todd_> could someone look at my smb.conf at http://pastebin.com/m2d437388 for me... especially the [public] section
[08:22] <ere4si> stumped,  it might not help you but I set up severs then ssh into them - still new to that aspect - but once setup they work as expected
[08:22] <ridius> Has anybody had success with the Blackdown Plugin on 64 bit systems? I can install it but Firefox won't pick it up
[08:22] <minilek> ere4si: why do you ask -- are you familiar with this problem?
[08:22] <scarlet> ive just installed Crossover Office, and i dont see the shortcut or know the the command to start it.  what is the command for Codeweaver's Crossover Office please?  does anyone know?  thankyou
[08:23] <stumped> ere4si: I'm sure it's something stupid I've done. Usually is. Thanks for your trying anyway. Cheers.
[08:24] <ere4si> minilek, the first thought that crossed my mind was that you didn't reconfigure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for the new driver
[08:24] <icesword> scarlet, why not use eioffice ,www.eioffice.com
[08:24] <marshall> whats everyones favourite media player browser plugin? whats good for watching embedded videos?
[08:24] <minilek> ere4si: i see. yes, i am using the driver "nvidia"
[08:24] <scarlet> thanks icesword
[08:25] <icesword> scarlet, it has very good support for linux ,and compatible with m$
[08:25] <ere4si> minilek: can you repeat your issue pls - doing many things here - what's not happening ?
[08:25] <PLSshowyourhelp> May i join here from web -explorer?
[08:26] <todd_> ere4si: got a sec?
[08:26] <ere4si> k
[08:26] <minilek> ere4si: i cannot change my screen resolution. it is stuck at 1024x768 -- i can't change it higher or lower if i use the nvidia driver (though i can change it if i use another driver, say vesa).  the problem persists even if i edit the "Modes" line of my display subsection of section "Screen" in xorg.conf
[08:27] <navid> When I run gparted I dont get a graphical interface...this is just bad it says type the name of the driver you want to be forced in xorg.conf..i dont know which driver to select either
[08:27] <strav> he Anyone here uses the orinoco usb driver with kernel >= 2.6.22?
[08:27] <minilek> ere4si: currently my modes line has 1280x800, 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  however, i can only actually use 1024x768.
[08:27] <todd_> ere4si: I am trying to configure my samba server, but I am seeing some strange results... could you take a look at what I have for me?
[08:28] <ere4si> minlek: did you type in terminal   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    and choose the defaults except the video driver?
[08:29] <minilek> ere4si: i have tried that, yes.
[08:29] <ere4si> todd_, : samba is a pia - I don't use any windows in my home - sorry - I use nfs
[08:29] <zkjellberg> Hi folks, I cain't enable desktop effects, but I enabled restricted drivers.
[08:30] <todd_> ere4si: I dont either, but others do... I just want to make sure I am not crazy
[08:30] <scarlet> icesword, do you know where i might find that eioffice ?   downloadable ?
[08:30] <ere4si> minilek: is the resolution you want the first option in each line of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:30] <Ayabara> I followed this tutorial to install FF3 on Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html . Now I want to revert to FF2 and clean up the mess. Could someone take a quick look at the link and help me with the course of action?
[08:31] <icesword> scarlet, ok let me see
[08:31] <icesword> but it is a business thing
[08:31] <ridius> Woo hoo! Just got it working.... never mind
[08:31] <ethan961> !flash
[08:31] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:31] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[08:32] <ere4si> todd_, : using samba from my point of view means you are a sixpack short of a bbq...:)
[08:32] <minilek> ere4si: it seems to ignore my modes line in xorg.conf.  even if i only put, say, 800x600, it still is stuck at 1024x768.
[08:32] <icesword> scarlet, you may want to see here,http://www.evermoresw.com/weben/download/downloads.jsp
[08:32] <ere4si> minilek: do you have the control panel in your menu?
[08:32] <PLSshowyourhelp> How are you,ubotu?
[08:32] <minilek> ere4si: which menu are you referring to ?
[08:33] <todd_> Can anyone help me with a strange samba configuration issue, or at least confirm this is a bug?
[08:33] <scarlet> lol i found a downloadable cd of eioffice ...... is it better than crossover .... worth the 600mb download ?
[08:33] <Ayabara> how can I remove all traces of Firefox 2/3 on my system and reinstall it?
[08:33] <ere4si> applications minilek - the top panel on a standard install
[08:34] <icesword> scarlet, sure it is,it is worth a try
[08:34] <javatexan> how do you turn off the screensaver completely?
[08:34] <bmoney> !ot
[08:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:34] <javatexan> all I see is a max of two ohours
[08:34] <minilek> ere4si: there's no "control panel" in applications, but there is "system tools" with an "nvidia settings" option
[08:35] <scarlet> does anyone the launch command for crossover office tho ??
[08:35] <icesword> scarlet, also see here,http://www.evermoresw.com/webch/download/downEIOffice.jsp
[08:35] <ere4si> Ayabara, in /home/you there are files that are hidden - click "view in the top menu - then "show hidden files" "
[08:35] <ere4si> minilek: try that for a start
[08:36] <Ayabara> ere4si: actually it's not those I have scr***d up. it's the installation
[08:36] <todd_> Can ANYONE help me with a strange samba configuration issue, or at least confirm this is a bug?
[08:36] <minilek> ere4si: i can change the resolution in "nvidia settings", but not to 640x480 or 800x600. only to 640x384, 576x384, and 512x384, none of which i want to change to.
[08:36] <javatexan> nvrmind....read the whole screen
[08:36] <scarlet> ill be buggered if i can read chinese, but thankyou icesword
[08:36] <scarlet> :)
[08:36] <Leechzilla> Half of my azureus is showing in a weird font.. Might be some other language... Can I show a screenshot?
[08:37] <javatexan> i didnt know anyone was still using azureus.... do you live in US?
[08:38] <ArthurArchnix> what fonts are used on ubuntuforums.org?
[08:38] <icesword> scarlet, what you used crossover is a business software too,see what it does ,emulation,but eioffice is base on java,i mean it is universal ,
[08:38] <ere4si> minilek: from here I would suggest uninstalling any drivers you installed - rebooting and starting agai - sorry , it's the only advice UI can give from here
[08:38] <ArthurArchnix> I installed msttfcorefonts and now they look at bit washed out. They're not using ms fonts are they?
[08:38] <ere4si> *again
[08:38] <kane77> what is the best audio recording tool?
[08:38] <Ayabara> ere4si: so what I want to do is uninstall FF and remove all symlinks and stuff that refer to it, then reinstall the repo-version
[08:38] <minilek> ere4si: ok, thanks for the help. i have been at this for hours, uninstalling/reinstalling/rebooting/etc. thank you though.
[08:39] <icesword> scarlet, on that page, did you see two parts ,one for win one for lin,you can download eioffice from under it
[08:39] <scarlet> i wanted to run M$ Access
[08:39] <scarlet> yah saw that thanks icesword
[08:39] <javatexan> i need a IRC channel for yamaha AV....LOL
[08:39] <Leechzilla> javatexan, no I don't
[08:39] <todd_> scarlet: try openoffice, it has a compatable dbase to access
[08:40] <ere4si> Ayabara, in your home folder arwe files called .mozilla etc that remember your options - remove those beforen you reinstall
[08:40] <todd_> Can ANYONE help me with a strange samba configuration issue, or at least confirm this is a bug?
[08:40] <icesword> scarlet, did you download it?
[08:40] <javatexan> that would explain things.  I tried to download one file on azureus and my router was bombarded for a month and a half after I had completely erased azureus off my machine
[08:41] <javatexan> was a little scary and irritating
[08:41] <javatexan> never got the file.... :)
[08:41] <ArthurArchnix> ere4si: doesn't sudo apt-get remove --purge program get rid of the config files as well?
[08:41] <ere4si> minilek: my nvidia needed the restricted driver - but it worked ok - can only suggest a restart - sorry
[08:41] <Leechzilla> Well I tried rtorrent and deluge, but my stats are not correct on private torrent sites, So I need to try something else. Others (mostly windows users) don't have this problem
[08:42] <javatexan> private sites are ruff
[08:42] <kane77> Leechzilla, try ktorrent.. although rtorrent is widely used too
[08:42] <scarlet> i will download it later on my offpeak connection icesword
[08:42] <Leechzilla> So wanted to give azureus a try, but half of it is in some weird non-english font
[08:42] <Ayabara> ere4si: ok. do you mind taking a look at the link I posted, to see if any of the steps there will get in the way of a reinstall?
[08:42] <ere4si> ArthurArchnix,  I've found that some files are left - use synaptic and click on "status"
[08:43] <javatexan> i like the public ones...you can change azureus to cheat....a little  <evil lol>
[08:43] <ere4si> Ayabara, sure - the link?
[08:43] <etana> j #ubuntu-women
[08:43] <Ayabara> ere4si: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[08:44] <Ayabara> ere4si: some dpkg-divert and stuff that I'm not on top of in there :-)
[08:44] <ArthurArchnix> ere4si: I just checked and found some residual compiz folders, even though I did a complete remove through synaptic. Strange.
[08:44] <debaser> hi i need some help with gparted
[08:45] <ere4si> ArthurArchnix, that's why synaptic was invented - good on the developers :)
[08:45] <Adlai> !ask | debaser
[08:45] <ubotu> debaser: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:45] <debaser> thanks
[08:47] <icesword> scarlet, if you really got intrested,i can mail you something to make trial become normal,if you need,certainly,you need to buy it to make it legal
[08:47] <ere4si> Ayabara, firefox 3 is still to be proven - but with all precautions you should be ok - do you know that ~/.mozilla is a hidden file in your /home folder?
[08:48] <debaser>  m new with this, i m running 7.10  live cd and i m trying to format my previously ntfs file system to something that gets along with  linux, i tried to format it to ext2 but that didnt work and gparted crashed....now the file system for that partition is shown as unknown
[08:48] <ArthurArchnix> So I just told firefox to override the settings on webpages, and now ubuntuforums.org looks beautiful again. After I installed msttfcorefonts it looked washed out. Someone please tell me that ubuntuforums.org does not use msttfonts.
[08:48] <Ayabara> ere4si: yep.
[08:49] <Joe__> I have a big problem... I ran fsck and then everything started dieing, ended up in console where I figured out that my user didn't have r/w access to any disks, I was told to rerun fsck as root(sudo fsck) and let it do it's thing then reboot... now it just freezes at the start up screen
[08:49] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: I used ntfs for a good 6 months without problems when I dual booted. ntfs-3g is really quite good, and installed by default in gutsy.
[08:50] <Ayabara> ere4si: but in that folder, ff2 and ff3 had different folders, so I hope/think that's ok
[08:50] <debaser> ArthurArchnix: i dont want to use dual boot now...just ubuntu
[08:51] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Ok. Are you using the partition manager that comes with the live cd? If so, have you tried deleting the partition in question and reformatting again as ext3?
[08:51] <Ayabara> ere4si: seems ok after a reinstall. thanks for helping
[08:52] <ere4si> Ayabara, sorry I couldn't help more... :)
[08:52] <debaser> ArthurArchnix: , i just tried to delete the partition and gparted has crashed again
[08:52] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Are you still on the livecd, or are you running from the hard-disk right now?
[08:53] <debaser> still on the live cd
[08:53] <chalcedony> :)
[08:53] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: And are you using the gparted tool from within the livecd, or is it crashing during the install process?
[08:53] <debaser> i m runing it from the live cd :)
[08:54] <Bodsda> hi guys, does anyone no if there is a cedega channel?
[08:55] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Ok, that probably won't work, since the livecd mounts your disks in such a way that you can't accidentally damage them while using the livecd. If you click the install to hard-disk option after a few screens gparted will be shown again and you can reformat your disks as you please during the install process.
[08:56] <debaser> ok i ll try that thanks ArthurArchnix
[08:56] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Dont' sign off. You'll be able to stay online and chat while the install happens.
[08:56] <debaser> ok
[08:56] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Isn't that cool? :)
[08:56] <debaser> awesome
[08:56] <pawan> hi
[08:57] <chalcedony> i thought i made a new user account for my friend to use the laptop, (it's got feisty on it) how do I get it to open as HER account and not mine?
[08:57] <chalcedony> greetings pawan
[08:57] <ogre> what is the best way to install a font?
[08:57] <pawan> u too
[08:57] <chalcedony> ogra: for what?
[08:57] <debaser> ArthurArchnix: , um where is the install to hard disk option :S
[08:58] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Should be on your desktop. An icon.
[08:58] <chalcedony> ty pawan
[08:58] <ogre> chalcedony:  i want to use it as a system font
[08:58] <chalcedony> ogra: i see, i expect someone else will know that
[08:58] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: What icons do you see on your desktop?
[08:59] <debaser> yeah i got to that bit now i m selecting my country
[08:59] <astro76> !fonts | ogre
[08:59] <ubotu> ogre: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:59] <Bodsda> ogre wot distro r u using?
[08:59] <ogre> Bodsda:  gutsy
[08:59] <ArthurArchnix> ogre: You have a ttf font you want to install for system wide use?
[09:00] <ogre> ArthurArchnix:  yes sir
[09:00] <Leechzilla> After I use apt-get to uninstall an app and re-install, it's not downloading it again and just installin again... What do I need to do to get it download again?
[09:00] <pradeep> How do you compil kernel programs?
[09:00] <debaser> ArthurArchnix: , can i pvt u ...so u can guide me through the process
[09:00] <pawan> whats up
[09:00] <ArthurArchnix> ogre: Make a directory for your fonts. Like "sudo mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts"
[09:00] <astro76> Leechzilla: do 'sudo apt-get clean' first
[09:01] <Leechzilla> okay
[09:01] <Bodsda> ogre try going to System->preferences->apperence ,.,.theres a font tab in there
[09:01] <ArthurArchnix> ogre: It doesn't have to be called myfonts, but the rest leave the same.
[09:01] <pradeep> Anyone, How can I compile Kernel programs?
[09:01] <ogre> ahh thanks guys I'll give it a go
[09:01] <chalcedony> i thought i made a new user account (get root, adduser, new user, pass, info)  for my friend to use the laptop, (it's got feisty on it) how do I get it to open as HER account and not mine?
[09:01] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Normally I'd say yes, but since I'm involved in more than one conversation we should keep it in here.
[09:01] <debaser> ok no worries
[09:01] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: It's quiet though. So we shouldn't have any problems.
[09:02] <ArthurArchnix> ogre: Have you got instructions already?
[09:03] <ArthurArchnix> ogre: Oh I see, a good link. Nevermind.
[09:03] <debaser> ArthurArchnix: there is an error saying ext3 file system cannot be created in partition 1 :S
[09:03] <jklfdjskl> all your base
[09:03] <chalcedony> jklfdjskl: are belong to us !
[09:03] <jklfdjskl> yea!!
[09:03] <chalcedony> :)
[09:03] <jonathan> does ubuntu come with grub?
[09:03] <Bodsda> yer
[09:04] <Bodsda> 7.10 does
[09:04] <Bodsda> def
[09:04] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Is there anything on this disk that you're afraid of losing?
[09:04] <rane> so, how many users ubuntu has?
[09:04] <debaser> yes but i m willing to make that sacrifice
[09:04] <debaser> :D
[09:04] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Describe the disk to me. Just one disk? How many partitions, of what type, and what's on them?
[09:05] <_ruben> bugger .. printing from winxp to my ubuntu box works like a charm (usb printer on gutsy), but vista refuses to connect
[09:05] <debaser> ArthurArchnix: its a 20gb...
[09:06] <debaser> then there is a 200gb hardisk thats the slave tho....i dont want to loose anything on that disk
[09:06] <chalcedony> rane: 1113
[09:06] <rane> so you don't know
[09:06] <runlevel> im having a really bad artifact issue with compiz after i updated my entire desktop. can some one point me in a direction to fix this
[09:07] <rane> kay
[09:07] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: But the 20gb.. this is just for ubuntu and then the 200gb this is important for data and such... right so far?
[09:07] <debaser> yeah
[09:07] <chalcedony> rane: i'm running XChat.. that's how many users are in this channel
[09:07] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Sata, or pata disks?
[09:07] <debaser> definitely not sata
[09:08] <rane> i wanted to know how many users have *buntu on their computers
[09:08] <rane> and how you count them :-)
[09:08] <alexh> i'm trying to run grub shell from ubuntu alternate rescue mode, but i get 'Error opening terminal: bterm" ... I tried setting TERM to vt100 but grub was all messed up. any ideas ?
[09:08] <debaser> :( i dont kow what pata is
[09:09] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Well.. not the 20 anyway. :) ok.. here's what I think you should do. Turn off the computer and unplug the 200GB disk. Reboot with the live cd and when it comes up tell it that you want to check the disc for errors. This will check the installation disk to make sure it's good. Then, when it comes to install time, just tell it to use the whole disk. It will use your entire 20GB disk for ubuntu. Assuming all goes well, you tu
[09:10] <debaser> ok
[09:10] <debaser> u ll be here when i get back right ArthurArchnix
[09:10] <ArthurArchnix> debaser: Unplugging is not strictly necessary, but since it's important to you we should do that to be safe, so that we don't accidentally install stuff to that disk.
[09:10] <ArthurArchnix> I'll be on for another hour.
[09:10] <ronin_> hi everyone
[09:11] <debaser> aight
[09:11] <ArthurArchnix> Lots of time. Don't rush. :P
[09:11] <debaser> muchos gracias
[09:11] <debaser> :D
[09:13] <alexh> anybody know how to get nano/vi/grub working with the crappy bterm in ubuntu rescue mode ?
[09:14] <me_avi> Hi , I have a user using openldap,  but when i try to mount usb device with this user , i get error.freedesktop.dbus.error.accessdenied ... how can I trouble shoot this ?
[09:15] <Joe__> if I'm running the liveCD, can I remove it to burn a disk without a problem?
[09:17] <American-tech> Hi have a dell xps 1330 and am having trouble getting yjr wireless working
[09:19] <l3ttuc3> American-tech, what network card do you have?
[09:19] <msl> Joe__: I do not believe you can unmount the CD unless you have specified a boot option to load the CD contents to RAM (I know knoppix could do this)
[09:19] <n2diy> Joe__: What would you burn it with?
[09:19] <American-tech> Let me copy the specs
[09:20] <American-tech> one sec please
[09:20] <l3ttuc3> er...
[09:20] <Joe__> umm... just burned it...
[09:20] <bunset1> Everytime I restart computer I have to configure wireless wep configuration. Anyone to help me please ?
[09:21] <Sul> hi I an new to Ubuntu
[09:21] <ArthurArchnix> Sul: Welcome.
[09:21] <Sul> thks
[09:21] <Sul> I tried Live
[09:22] <Sul> without installing
[09:22] <Sul> how to get Java without installing ubuntu
[09:22] <Reno> Hi I am a newby, my system freezes when I play movies with avi or another extension, can anyone help me?
[09:22] <ArthurArchnix> Sul: When you want to speak to someone in particular, type part of their name then hit tab. It will be highlighted to get their attention. Also.. it's considered polite to put all your comments on one line without hitting enter after every sentence.
[09:23] <ArthurArchnix> Sul: Not a big deal now, since it's so quiet, but it's more important when it's busy in here.
[09:23] <Sul> Arther: thanks
[09:23] <walko> hi, in rhythmbox , can't i make advanced search queries like: ("Artist: Avril" OR "album:Bla") ?
[09:24] <navid> Ubuntu users, anyone know if ubuntu fiesty fawn 7.04 comes with gparted?
[09:24] <ArthurArchnix> navid: I'm on gutsy and don't remember. But it's available in the repositories and can be easily installed through add/remove.
[09:24] <Sul> Arthur: is it possible to get Java without installing Ubuntu to the harddisk?