[16:52] <dericcrago> I don't suppose this is the right place, but does anyone know who / where I should ask about getting resolvelib 0.5.x on Ubuntu < 21.04? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=resolvelib


[22:26] <smkellat> I will be curious if anybody follows up on this and perhaps contacts the Ohio Adjutant General's Department about it: https://ong.ohio.gov/stories/2019/oct/20191025-cyber-legislation.html
[22:26] <jenni> [ Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine signs cyber reserve legislation ] - https://bit.ly/39fCSX5
[22:27] <smkellat> A volunteer cyber reserve for Ohio would be a great place for Ubuntu folks to be


[06:02] <tjaalton> furkan: downgrade mesa first
[07:45] <furkan> tjaalton: just tried that now, same result (i had purged the ppa, so i added it back and only upgraded  xserver-common xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-dev xserver-xorg-video-intel
[07:46] <tjaalton> ok
[07:47] <furkan> are you able to see the same thing with glamor?
[07:48] <furkan> i'm willing to do a bisect, but preferably if you had any pointers on how to make that easier lol (like if you have a script you use or something)
[07:49] <furkan> i can build mesa fine, but last time i tried building xorg it just didn't work out
[08:02] <tjaalton> i'll have a look later
[08:05] <furkan> if you want some test pages to try in Firefox, in gmail your name in the top right corner shows up in red
[08:06] <furkan> and in facebook when you mouse over somebody's name and you get the little overlay popup with their basic profile information, the "shadow" around the box is red
[08:07] <furkan> also a thin red line under the facebook navbar at the top of the page
[09:13] <tjaalton> furkan: I see the red line
[09:13] <tjaalton> also a system hang on skylake when switching between modes
[09:14] <tjaalton> but that's a kernel thing
[18:09] <ricotz> tjaalton, hi, did you already pushed an updated vulkan package somewhere?
[19:24] <tjaalton> ricotz: the loader lib? i've uploaded <IP_ADDRESS> to debian, still in NEW
[19:25] <tjaalton> I see <IP_ADDRESS> is tagged
[19:27] <ricotz_> tjaalton, hi, yes, that one ;)
[19:29] <tjaalton> i'll fix the ppa tomorrow
[19:32] <ricotz_> tjaalton, thanks!
[19:33] <ricotz_> tjaalton, there might be a new libva release coming (API 0.39)
[21:17] <tjaalton> alright
[22:08] <JanC> I've never been able to get libva to work properly; is there any testing being done for it?
[22:09] <tjaalton> not by me
[22:09] <tjaalton> and it's in universe


[12:04] <mhz> hi you all!
[12:08] <ryanakca> bimberi: ty
[12:48] <GR8WENT> do I have to create an lts.conf?
[12:49] <GR8WENT> I don't see one in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc
[01:00] <mhz> GR8WENT: hi tehre
[01:01] <GR8WENT> hi mhz
[01:01] <mhz> GR8WENT: if you installed Edubuntu via "next, next, next" based on wiki:EdubuntuInstallNotes, then no need to modify any files under /opt
[01:02] <GR8WENT> ok
[01:02] <GR8WENT> thin clients will boot and show the login screen
[01:02] <GR8WENT> but that's it
[01:02] <GR8WENT> when I put in a user/pass it just kicks back to the login
[01:03] <mhz> GR8WENT: ok
[01:03] <mhz> GR8WENT: breezy or dapper?
[01:03] <GR8WENT> 5.10
[01:04] <mhz> breezy
[01:04] <GR8WENT> yes
[01:04] <mhz> then 2 questions
[01:04] <mhz> a) Does the user exist on the server and he's not currently logged in?
[01:05] <GR8WENT> yes and correct
[01:05] <mhz> b) if the above is ok, then on the server, run $ ltsp-update-sshkeys
[01:05] <mhz> and try to login
[01:06] <GR8WENT> thank you
[01:06] <GR8WENT> I will try that
[01:06] <mhz> let us know
[01:06] <GR8WENT> bbl
[01:07] <mhz> ok
[01:32] <Burgwork> arkan0x, please turn off your public away message
[01:33] <arkan0x> Burgwork, why ?
[01:33] <Burgwork> arkan0x, because it is annoying, to be honest
[01:34] <arkan0x> mmm
[01:34] <Burgwork> thanks
[02:01] <Aklys> could some assist me please in getting wpa security working in edubuntu?
[02:05] <bimberi> Aklys: ubotu (the #ubuntu channel bot) has this ...
[02:05] <bimberi> wpa is, like, totally, enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[02:07] <Aklys> Since I can't do a apt-get cause I'm not connected to the network that's gonna be impossible to do
[02:08] <bimberi> Aklys: you can download the .deb file(s) on another machine via http://packages.ubuntu.com and transfer them
[02:09] <Aklys> it's ok I think I've found the drivers I'm after on the ubuntu wiki. I have to set it up via command line as it is a rt2500 chipset
[02:12] <bimberi> Aklys: kk.  fwiw i just checked a reasonably vanilla breezy install i have and wpasupplicant doesn't want to bring in any dependencies so that would be all you need
[02:15] <Aklys> will wpa supplicant work for a rt2500 chipset though?
[02:17] <bimberi> Aklys: idk sorry, if noone else here answers you could try in #ubuntu (681 users atm)
[04:51] <GR8WENT> mhz?
[04:52] <mhz> GR8WENT: yea
[04:52] <mhz> worked?
[04:52] <GR8WENT> same
[04:52] <mhz> :(
[04:52] <GR8WENT> the screen blanks then goes back to login
[04:52] <mhz> can the user log in normally at the server?
[04:52] <GR8WENT> yes
[04:53] <mhz> is he currently loged in?
[04:53] <GR8WENT> no
[04:53] <mhz> does the "client machine" gets an IP from server dhcp ?
[04:54] <GR8WENT> yes from the breezy
[04:54] <GR8WENT> it is also doing the NAT
[04:54] <mhz> hmmm
[04:55] <mhz> and you have run ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server side ?
[04:55] <GR8WENT> yes
[04:55] <GR8WENT> as root?
[04:55] <mhz> sure
[04:56] <GR8WENT> 1 sec
[04:56] <mhz> GR8WENT: how much RAM does the server have?
[04:56] <mhz> and how much RAM does the client have?
[04:57] <GR8WENT> 768/128
[04:57] <GR8WENT> sould I reboot the client?
[04:58] <mhz> hmmmm
[04:58] <mhz> not really, but yes
[04:58] <mhz> go ahead
[04:59] <GR8WENT> wow
[04:59] <GR8WENT> yes
[04:59] <mhz> yes?
[05:00] <GR8WENT> it was the ltsp-update-sshkeys as root
[05:00] <mhz> cool!
[05:00] <GR8WENT> ty so much
[05:00] <mhz> you're very welcom
[05:00] <mhz> e
[05:00] <GR8WENT> pretty fast too
[05:00] <mhz> indeed
[05:00] <mhz> just remember not to use too heavy apps at the same time
[05:01] <GR8WENT> ok, I am going to demo this for a small school district in MN
[05:01] <mhz> and that the server has to have at least 256 MB of RAM for itself + 128 per client attached to it
[05:01] <mhz> and each client should have at least 64 MB of ram
[05:01] <GR8WENT> so i could probably boot three?
[05:02] <mhz> yep
[05:02] <mhz> and my advice is that you give lighter desktops a try too
[05:02] <mhz> ie: xfce4 and windowmaker
[05:02] <mhz> just in case :D
[05:02] <GR8WENT> good idea
[07:55] <firsttimer> hello everyone
[07:58] <firsttimer> yesterday I downloaded the 6.04 LiveCD of edubuntu. But while booting with it, it did not give me the boot: prompt to enter any options.  Has this been fixed ?.
[04:11] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: sorry, been out. i'm doing better by the day. how have you been doing?
[04:11] <jsgotangco> ive been busy lately
[04:11] <jsgotangco> but having a sane schedule now
[04:13] <highvoltage> sane schedules++
[04:18] <JaneW> ogra: ping
[04:18] <ogra> JaneW, pong
[04:19] <JaneW> ogra: I just remebered I have an appointment with my son's school teacher tomorrow at 13:30.
[04:19] <ogra> ok
[04:19] <JaneW> ogra: she set the time, as it's the time she can see me
[04:19] <ogra> no problem ...
[04:19] <JaneW> it's 30 mins before our edubuntu meeting
[04:19] <ogra> yep
[04:19] <JaneW> I am hoping it won't go on too long and I can get back quick
[04:20] <JaneW> but it is likely that I will miss the begining of the meeting
[04:20] <JaneW> that ok?
[04:20] <ogra> sure, dont worry, we'll manage the meeting :)
[04:20] <JaneW> thanks :))
[04:21] <highvoltage> geez, the cakes have already made the fridge! http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[04:21] <JaneW> heh
[04:21] <JaneW> and canonical quotes page :P
[04:22] <highvoltage> JaneW: you can now put "world famous cake baker" on your C.V. :)
[04:22] <JaneW> heh
[04:35] <highvoltage> anyone know what this is about: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/gins
[04:36] <Seveas> highvoltage, lol@icing-sugar passwords :D
[04:37] <highvoltage> Seveas: i actually changed it. i was afraid that it might offend someone :)
[04:38] <JaneW> highvoltage: a flint thing clearly!
[04:38] <highvoltage> JaneW: that's about as far as I could interpret it as well!
[05:13] <jsgotangco> ogra: this \sh life update is depressing
[05:14] <ogra> jsgotangco, yes
[05:36] <HedgeMage> Burgwork: Sorry I missed you... you're welcome, and no I don't know what/who Koha is.
[05:37] <HedgeMage> Burgwork: I'll add more when I dig more up... I should bug some of the teachers I know about it again.
[05:40] <ogra> its late afternoon here ... no time to sleep :)
[05:59] <highvoltage> utah- that's middle america, right?
[06:00] <ogra> middle of notrh america, yes
[06:00] <ogra> middle america is nicaragua etc ...
[06:00] <highvoltage> noted
[06:01] <ogra> las vegas is in utah ...
[06:01] <HedgeMage> ;0
[06:02] <HedgeMage> :) even
[06:04] <highvoltage> :P
[06:04] <ogra> heh
[06:04] <HedgeMage> no, just not totally awake yet.
[06:05] <HedgeMage> My son let me sleep in until about a half-hour ago :)
[06:11] <Yagisan> ahh sleep - how I miss thee.
[06:12] <Yagisan> so how's things going ?
[06:13] <highvoltage> Yagisan, now there's another name I haven't seen in a while :)
[06:13] <HedgeMage> Pretty good :)
[06:14] <Yagisan> highvoltage: probably just missed you. I haven't been on as late as I usually am. Its 4am and I still haven't gone to bed.
[06:15] <highvoltage> jeez!
[06:15] <Yagisan> trying to get gentoo installed to see if it has anything cool to pinch for my ubuntu box. It's not very user friendly.
[06:16] <highvoltage> how so? :)
[06:17] <Burgwork> HedgeMage, Koha is an ILS (integrated library system). Catalogue to those not in the library business
[06:17] <highvoltage> i quite like gentoo, but for completely different reasons than Ubuntu.
[06:17] <Yagisan> The either the installer should match the docs, or the docs should match the installer. But maybe I spoiled from all the Ubuntu and Debian installs I do
[06:17] <HedgeMage> Burgwork: ahh, no, I hadn't heard of it... do you have a link?
[06:17] <highvoltage> might be. debian and ubuntu does so much for you automatically.
[06:18] <Burgwork> koha.org
[06:18] <ogra> i wonder why its not packaged ...
[06:18] <ogra> isnt it OSS ?
[06:18] <Yagisan> highvoltage: I'd like it to tell me if it asks for a stage 1/2/3 , where I can actually find it for starters
[06:19] <HedgeMage> Yagisan: I know, they took it out of the docs because not all mirrors were doing it consistently... IMHO that made it harder on new users, not easier
[06:19] <Yagisan> highvoltage: basically I'm interested in their hardened toolchain, and whant to know what I should "borrow"
[06:19] <Burgwork> ogra, currently it is too hard to package
[06:19] <highvoltage> Yagisan: i remember using docs here when i installed it once: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=install#doc_chap2
[06:19] <ogra> Burgwork, bah, you cant scare me ...
[06:19] <Burgwork> ogra, MJ Ray works on Koha and will be packaging it for Debian when 3.0 comes out RSN
[06:19] <ogra> ok
[06:19] <highvoltage> Yagisan: but you could also install it with VLOS: http://www.vlos.org
[06:19] <ogra> then i'll leave it to him
[06:19] <highvoltage> Yagisan: it uses Anaconda to install Gentoo
[06:20] <Yagisan> highvoltage: second link is a suspended page ;)
[06:22] <highvoltage> Yagisan: sorry, meant this page: http://www.vidalinux.com/
[06:23] <highvoltage> hi jinty
[06:24] <Yagisan> thanks highvoltage
[06:24] <jinty> hey highvoltage!
[06:59] <highvoltage> bye, #edubuntu!
[07:00] <Yagisan> bye highvoltage
[07:00] <Burgwork> cya
[07:00] <highvoltage> ciao
[07:01] <HedgeMage> brb
[07:58] <RasCaL> I am having issues
[07:58] <RasCaL> I wanted to try Kubunutu on my laptop
[07:58] <RasCaL> it will not recognize my wifi card
[07:58] <RasCaL> If I install Edubuntu on it, think maybe you could try to help me out with it?
[07:59] <RasCaL> <<< is iGotNoTime :)
[08:07] <HedgeMage> RasCaL: I'll help as much as I can :)  I'm an old hat at Linux, but relatively new to Ubuntu/Edubuntu
[08:07] <RasCaL> :P
[08:07] <HedgeMage> brb
[08:07] <RasCaL> I am downloading the ISO again because my brothers have taken my other two
[08:14] <HedgeMage> Hehe that happens :)
[08:19] <RasCaL> Going to try to install again, have fun :P
[10:05] <emmie> Hi
[10:36] <Burgwork> http://justplainlukee.livejournal.com/14192.html
[10:46] <enyc> (flight 5 dapper prerelease)


[21:47] <rbasak> Noskcaj: surely bug 1281306 should still be open as 1.0 isn't in the development release yet? Or else open a new bug?


[00:43] <rcsheets> i'm getting a really generic "permission denied" when i try to mount an nfs4 export, even from the nfs server. i'm running out of ideas for what to do. here's the best log output i've found so far: http://pastebin.com/d45780b66
[00:44] <rcsheets> error 13 is apparently "permission denied" or "access denied" or some such thing.
[00:48] <artillerytx_> hooray its working
[00:48] <artillerytx_> so whenever i want to install something that is mysql dependent i just do localhost for the server
[00:49] <giovani> artillerytx_: well ... the server is there, locally, so yes
[00:49] <giovani> that's typical on small webservers
[00:49] <artillerytx_> yea
[01:06] <artillerytx_> is it bad to have no password on mysql user names
[01:08] <giovani> artillerytx_: obviously, yes
[01:08] <artillerytx_> haha
[01:08] <artillerytx_> trick question
[02:29] <bsmith_> Is it possible to run a folding at home on a server
[02:29] <rcsheets> i don't see why not
[02:34] <bsmith_> Do you have any suggestions for media server?
[02:35] <twb> bsmith_: apt-get install boinc? (re: folding)
[02:35] <bsmith_> twb: thanks
[02:35] <twb> bsmith_: sorry, it's "boinc-client".
[02:36] <twb> And the GUI is boinc-
[02:36] <twb> And the GUI is "boinc-manager"
[02:36] <twb> Strangely, folding@home doesn't appear to be listed there; I can see only "boinc-app-seti" and "boinc-app-milkyway"
[02:37] <bsmith_> twb: So what is it?
[02:37] <twb> I suppose it's possible that folding doesn't use the BOINC infrastructure, but that seems unlikely.
[02:39] <bsmith_> twb: do you have any suggestions for a media server with browser listening?
[02:39] <twb> I believe MythTV is a widely used media system.
[02:39] <twb> I cannot vouch for it personally.
[02:40] <bsmith_> I figured MythTV was designed for tv usage? not computer usage.  Or am I wrong/
[02:41] <twb> Perhaps you should clarify what you mean by a "media server"
[02:41] <twb> At its most basic, a media server could simply be a fileserver with video and audio files on it.
[02:41] <bsmith_> specifically music
[02:41] <bsmith_> sorry should have been more clear
[02:42] <twb> bsmith_: are the speakers attached to your "media server", or to your desktop?
[02:42] <bsmith_> Im looking to do something similar to pandora.com but without the randomness? does this make sense.
[02:43] <twb> "We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S."
[02:43] <twb> Sorry, I can't determine what pandora is.
[02:44] <rcsheets> he wants a flash app or something to sit in the browser and play music at him, with the music being on the server.
[02:44] <rcsheets> music on server, web server on server, browser on client, speakers on client. music flows out speakers.
[02:44] <bsmith_> oh terrible sorry didn't realize you were out of the U.S.  I want to listen to music from any computer without downloading the .m3u for streaming
[02:45] <twb> I wouldn't know about that.  Probably I would implement something using either xmms2 or by embedding mplayer in a fat browser and just putting an httpd on the server.
[02:45] <bsmith_> thanks rcsheets.  you have a suggestion
[02:45] <twb> bsmith_: what's wrong with downloading an m3u?
[02:45] <rcsheets> bsmith_: could you use itunes rather than a web browser?
[02:46] <rcsheets> you could use the thing that comes with freenas
[02:46] <twb> itunes runs on GNU/Linux?
[02:46] <rcsheets> the name escapes me at the moment
[02:46] <bsmith_> rcsheets: yes but i would perfer not to
[02:46] <rcsheets> twb: i assumed that the only linuxy part was likely the server.
[02:46] <twb> Oh.  Sorry, I'm not used to people still using non-GNU/Linux desktops.
[02:47] <rcsheets> np, we made different assumptions
[02:48] <bsmith_> Are there any suggestions?
[02:49] <abstortedminds1> hi, i cant seem to get a network connect at all from eth0 to the router, other machines are working fine and acquiring a dhcp address.  any idea?
[02:49] <twb> abstortedminds1: are you running network-manager (NetworkManager) ?
[02:50] <abstortedminds1> yes i think so, the little icon at the top of the screen
[02:50] <abstortedminds1> if that is network manager then yes
[02:51] <twb> abstortedminds1: that sounds like a desktop, not a server.
[02:51] <abstortedminds1> i tried doing it through editing /etc/network/interfaces to auth eth0; ifface eth0 net dhcp
[02:51] <bsmith_> abstortedminds1:  what is your os?
[02:51] <abstortedminds1> yes i installed ubuntu desktop on the server
[02:51] <abstortedminds1> for gnome
[02:51] <abstortedminds1> ill remove it later
[02:51] <twb> abstortedminds1: OK, that's kinda bad juju
[02:52] <abstortedminds1> hehe
[02:52] <abstortedminds1> yea
[02:52] <twb> abstortedminds1: I recommend removing network-manager entirely, and writing a simple /etc/network/interfaces file.
[02:52] <abstortedminds1> gotcha
[02:52] <twb> IME most network problems are caused by NM
[02:52] <abstortedminds1> doing that now
[02:53] <abstortedminds1> k i removed it, ill let you know if this works
[02:53] <twb> interfaces should read:
[02:53] <twb> auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback \n
[02:53] <twb> allow-hotplug eth0 \n iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:53] <twb> Where those \ns are newlines.
[02:53] <bsmith_> Are there any suggestions for my music server
[02:53] <abstortedminds1> when i restart networking i get the same problem, DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 keeps scrolling until it gives up
[02:54] <abstortedminds1> allow-hotplug i dont have
[02:54] <rcsheets> bsmith_: yeah look into freenas like i suggested. it comes with some good stuff.
[02:55] <bsmith_> will do thanks
[02:55] <twb> abstortedminds1: make sure that NetworkManager isn't still running
[02:55] <abstortedminds1> ok, so there is no: auth eth0?
[02:55] <twb> That would be "auto".
[02:55] <twb> Changing "auto" to "allow-hotplug" just means, theoretically, that you can unplug and reconnect the cable and it will automatically restart DHCP.
[02:56] <abstortedminds1> ahh
[02:56] <abstortedminds1> ok
[03:04] <artillerytx> So do i need to set up an internet dns server so i can look at the domains im hosting ?
[03:05] <abstortedminds1> any ideas guys? what other things could prevent this?
[03:08] <twb> abstortedminds1: no cable, or your DHCP server is picky about who it responds to, or your switch/router needs a reset
[03:08] <abstortedminds1> ok well, ill reset my router and check those, but its a typical linksys router
[03:09] <abstortedminds1> so well see
[03:13] <AdamDV> How come my server install complains it can't find courier-imap courier-pop courier-imap-ssl courier-pop-ssl maildrop and a few other packages?
[03:13] <twb> Because it's broken?
[03:13] <AdamDV> Its a linode :/
[03:13] <ajmitch> because you don't have universe enabled?
[03:13] <AdamDV> I've tried with 2 different images.
[03:13] <AdamDV> AH hah!
[03:13] <AdamDV> THanks :)
[03:14] <artillerytx> is it bad that my apache2.conf file is missing Servertokens... and ServerSignature
[03:15] <ajmitch> see /etc/apache2/conf.d/security
[03:15] <twb> Universe is off by default for a reason :-/
[03:15] <twb> Why are packages in main allowed to depend/recommend on packages in universe?
[03:15] <artillerytx> ooo
[03:16] <ajmitch> twb: they aren't
[03:16] <twb> So AdamDV is just trying to manually install those packages?
[03:16] <ajmitch> quite possibly
[03:16] <AdamDV> No no.
[03:16]  * ajmitch shrugs
[03:16] <twb> ajmitch: it's also bloody annoying that depending on which order you install packages, you get a different MTA
[03:16] <ajmitch> AdamDV: how are you trying to install them, and what is complaining?
[03:17] <AdamDV> It was the universe repo :D
[03:17] <twb> ajmitch: I wish packages would consistently depend: exim4 | m-t-a, or postfix | m-t-a
[03:17] <AdamDV> Thanks
[03:17] <ajmitch> twb: they are being switched to depend: default-mta | m-t-a now I think
[03:17] <twb> ajmitch: is there a blueprint or lintian template for that?
[03:18] <ajmitch> not sure, but it is being taken up in debian as well I believe
[03:18] <twb> It'd be nice to make a list of people whose fingers I need to jump up and down on :-)
[03:18] <twb> ajmitch: so default-mta is exim4 on Debian and, what, postfix on Ubuntu?
[03:18] <ajmitch> yes
[03:18] <rcsheets> postfix ftw
[03:18] <twb> Good, good.
[03:18] <ajmitch> http://packages.debian.org/sid/default-mta
[03:18] <twb> Thanks
[03:19] <ajmitch> so it looks to be a virtual package provided by only one MTA on each distribution
[03:19] <twb> Hmm, no hits for it on p.u.c, though
[03:20] <ajmitch> p.u.c probably doesn't have a list of virtual packages
[03:20] <twb> Boo.
[03:20] <ajmitch> postfix provides default-mta on ubuntu though
[03:23] <artillerytx> and on shorewall to add ftp i do "FTP/ACCEPT    net    $FW"
[03:43] <tiger2wander> hi all
[03:44]  * ball waves
[03:44] <tiger2wander> could anyone help me to find the way to get RAM manufacturer by command line?
[03:44] <tiger2wander> I have used dmidecode command but it could not specify that information
[03:44] <tiger2wander> anyone?
[03:46] <twb> tiger2wander: try lshw
[03:46] <twb> But I'm not sure you can ever get that information
[03:46] <twb> Short of driving out the the site and opening the case
[03:47] <bsmith_> Anyone here who can help me do a usb install of FreeNAS
[03:49] <twb> What is a USB install?
[03:50] <bsmith_> I need to make a bootable usb of FreeNAS. I tried uNETbootin
[03:51] <twb> Er, FreeNAS is a distro?
[03:52] <twb> Oh, sorry, you mean network attached storage.  I was thinking network audio server.
[03:52] <bsmith_> twb: any solution?
[03:53] <twb> bsmith_: apparently freenas is a FreeBSD distro, so it's not appropriate to discuss it here.
[03:53] <ball> twb: unless you're mounting it on an Ubuntu Server box
[03:53] <ball> ...or perhaps migrating or comparing.
[03:54] <tiger2wander> I tried but no luck
[03:54] <bsmith_> I am comparing, I currently have ubuntu desktop 9.04 on, but was looking into FreeNAS as an alternate
[03:54] <bsmith_> I also mentioned this on the freenas channel but no such luch
[03:55] <twb> bsmith_: then you must stay in the freenas channel nd be patient.
[03:55] <twb> We cannot provide technical support for freenas
[03:55] <bsmith_> well what about a working music server in ubuntu 9.04 server or desktop?
[03:56] <ball> bsmith_: they may be sleeping
[03:56] <twb> bsmith_: I'm not aware of any free software that meets the requirements you discussed earlier.
[03:57] <ball> bsmith_: what sort of music server? (What do you want it to do?)
[03:57] <bsmith_> ball: wish I was!
[03:57] <bsmith_> ball: I want to listen to music from a web browser.
[03:57]  * ball stares blankly
[03:58] <bsmith_> ball:  I don't want to download a streaming file.
[03:58] <ball> You want the audio amp connected to the server and to use a Web browser running on another box to control music playing software on the server?
[03:58] <bsmith_> bsmith stares blankly
[03:59] <bsmith_> I want to be able to listen to music from the server on any computer without having to download the .m3u
[03:59] <ball> bsmith_: sounds like a job for something like mythbuntu
[04:00] <bsmith_> Ill check it out, do you have any more details on it?
[04:00] <twb> ball: let me paraphrase
[04:02] <twb> ball: he wants to store music on a server which has an httpd.  When he browses to that httpd from his desktop, he wants to download a flash/java app that will play the music on his desktop, without needing to actually set up a normal music player (e.g. winamp or mplayer) on the desktop.
[04:02] <twb> bsmith_: correct me if I'm wrong.
[04:02] <ball> http is a peculiar choice for that, but the people in #mythbuntu may be able to steer you right.
[04:03] <ball> twb: oh, you just want some flash thing then.  I don't do those.
[04:03] <bsmith_> ball: thanks.  twb: What I want is similar to jinzora jukebox
[04:04] <twb> ball: indeed, I think the requirements are fundamentally screwy.
[04:04] <twb> ball: to me it sounds like bsmith_ is yelling "I want to circumvent the lockdowns in my company's SOE!"
[04:05] <ball> twb: that occurred to me too ;-)
[04:05] <twb> Because obviously if you have root on the desktop it'd be far simpler to set up xmms2 or mplayer.
[04:05] <ball> I actually would like to do something similar, but with genuine client software installed on the, erm, clients.
[04:06] <twb> ball: meaning something that can talk to icecast / http / whatever?
[04:07]  * ball nods
[04:07] <ball> Something that can talk to whatever I end up running on the media server
[04:07] <twb> ball: are you running Ubuntu on the desktops?
[04:08] <ball> I run Ubuntu on my own desktop and for the set-top boxen in the other rooms I will probably run that or something very much like it.
[04:08] <ball> (this is a long term project)
[04:08] <bsmith_> twb: http://en.jinzora.com
[04:08] <ScottK> mysql 5.1 in Unstable in Debian, so does that mean we're going to make the jump for Karmic?
[04:09] <twb> bsmith_: I think that's talking about plugging the stereo into the server.  That's easy.
[04:10] <ball> twb: that's handy because almost any music-playing program for Linux is going to work as a remote X client.
[04:10] <ball> ...so no fancy streaming stuff required ;-)
[04:10] <twb> Exactly
[04:20] <bsmith_> thanks for the help
[05:56] <artillerytx> why would shorewall prevent my computer locally from access it
[05:59] <twb> artillerytx: that's a question you should ask shorewall, methinks
[05:59] <twb> Oh, shorewall is actually in Ubuntu
[06:00] <artillerytx> well i uninstalled it and its not working
[06:00] <twb> What does "iptables-save" say?  Pastebin the output
[06:01] <artillerytx> http://pastebin.com/d7bd7188f
[06:01] <twb> OK, and what is being blocked?
[06:01] <artillerytx> i can access the apache server and see that
[06:02] <artillerytx> but i know you guys don't support webmin but i can't access webmin
[06:02] <artillerytx> and my domain is no longer working
[06:02] <artillerytx> only thing i can think of is i recently installed shorewall
[06:03] <ScottK> You access webmin via your web server, so if you can see web pages, it's not the firewall.
[06:03]  * ScottK is pretty sure....
[06:03] <twb> ScottK: webmin sits on its own port, not via apache
[06:03] <artillerytx> right
[06:03] <artillerytx> well that sucks
[06:03] <ScottK> Ah.
[06:03] <qman__> well, not knowing anything about your particular setup
[06:03] <qman__> I'd have to assume that shorewall needs exceptions for your other services
[06:03] <twb> artillerytx: shorewall is still sitting in your firewall.
[06:04] <artillerytx> i removed it though
[06:04] <twb> You haven't, according to iptables-save.
[06:04] <twb> artillerytx: you need to rip it out, or whitelist the appropriate ports and such.
[06:04] <artillerytx> rip it out
[06:04] <twb> Incidentally, I think ufw(8) is probably a more approved firewall wrapper than shorewall, around here
[06:05] <qman__> I put together a bash script to do my firewall
[06:05] <twb> qman__: I don't even use bash
[06:05] <artillerytx> so how do i get rid of shorewall completely
[06:05] <qman__> well
[06:05] <qman__> sudo apt-get purge shorewall
[06:05] <twb> Unless you count the (da)sh instance in "pre-up iptables-restore </etc/iptab"
[06:05] <qman__> ought to clear out all the files
[06:05] <qman__> and then you need to flush iptables
[06:05] <qman__> and set the default policies
[06:06] <artillerytx> hmm
[06:06] <artillerytx> thats a little more than i know how to do
[06:06] <qman__> sudo iptales -F
[06:06] <twb> You'd want to set the policies first
[06:06] <qman__> sudo iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
[06:06] <twb> Otherwise you'll lock yourself out, since they default to DROP
[06:06] <qman__> sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[06:06] <qman__> yes
[06:06] <qman__> my bad
[06:06] <artillerytx> okay so run the first one first
[06:06] <artillerytx> or the second one
[06:06] <qman__> run the iptables -P ones first
[06:06] <qman__> then iptables -F
[06:06] <artillerytx> k output than input
[06:07] <qman__> either way
[06:07] <artillerytx> or input than output sorry
[06:07] <twb> qman__: how about this: iptables-save | sed 's/DROP/ACCEPT/; /^-/d' | iptables-restore ?
[06:07] <twb> evil enough for ya? ;-)
[06:07] <qman__> hah
[06:07] <qman__> that would overcomplicate it
[06:07] <artillerytx> k ran those commands
[06:07] <twb> artillerytx: can you still talk to the server?
[06:07] <qman__> now your firewall should be accepting all traffic
[06:08] <qman__> unless there's some modules jammed in dropping stuff on you
[06:08] <twb> artillerytx: at this point, you should unplug your server from the internet because otherwise it will be attacked
[06:08] <artillerytx> yes
[06:08] <artillerytx> hooray
[06:08] <artillerytx> well i have my routers firewall
[06:08] <qman__> I tried to use moblock once
[06:08] <qman__> it doesn't use iptables
[06:08] <error404notfound> how would you grade: http://pastebin.com/m66b41292 ?
[06:08] <qman__> I couldn't get it to accept LAN traffic
[06:09] <twb> qman__: I have no "moblock" here
[06:09] <twb> qman__: URL?
[06:09] <twb> error404notfound: what are you trying to achieve?
[06:09] <qman__> it's a peerguiardian-like tool for linux
[06:09] <twb> error404notfound: setgid is 1000, not 4000
[06:09] <twb> Sorry, setuid
[06:09] <qman__> but when I installed it it basically broke all my networking
[06:09] <error404notfound> twb, assure that no non-neccesaary files has a root bit set...
[06:10] <error404notfound> twb, you sure?
[06:10] <twb> I think so
[06:10] <artillerytx> you guys have a good tutorial for installing a firewall
[06:10] <twb> Sorry, I'm wrong
[06:10] <artillerytx> or no of one
[06:10] <qman__> ufw should be pretty easy
[06:10] <twb> e.g. /tmp has 1777, which is sticky
[06:10] <qman__> look for it in the official documentation
[06:10] <twb> artillerytx: ufw is the recommended firewall wrapper
[06:10] <qman__> like I said, I wrote mine in a bash script for iptables a long while ago
[06:11] <artillerytx> alright i will check that one out
[06:11] <twb> artillerytx: of course hard-core bitches like qman__ and myself tend to do it by hand
[06:11] <qman__> so I haven't used any of the nice stuff
[06:12] <qman__> I can show you my script if you want but it probably won't help you, it's tailored to my setup
[06:13] <twb> Indeed, it'd be quite dangerous to give artillerytx a raw iptables script at this point
[06:14] <artillerytx> haha yeah not a good idea
[06:14] <artillerytx> I'm learning slowly
[06:14] <twb> Like letting your niece handle a blunderbuss
[06:14] <artillerytx> my house would be on fire
[06:14] <error404notfound> twb, http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-security/most-common-qs/section-15.html
[06:15] <twb> error404notfound: I used this: sudo find / -xdev -type f \( -perm +4000 -o -perm +2000 \) -ls
[06:15] <error404notfound> twb, lemme try that...
[06:16] <twb> error404notfound: as to whether the hits it finds NEED to be setuid/setgid, that is a question I cannot answer easily
[06:16] <twb> You would need to consult docs on those programs
[06:17] <twb> But just looking at them, it doesn't surprise me that low-level networking (e.g. ping) and password-related (e.g. passwd) programs are setuid
[06:18] <qman__> I know that in order for pppd to work, it must be suid
[06:18] <qman__> but other than that
[06:18] <twb> error404notfound: it is also obviously a good idea to mount /home and NFS mounts with nodev,noexec,nosuid
[06:19] <error404notfound> twb, unfortunately i have all structure on a single disk...
[09:06] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #405185 in samba (main) "wins (dup-of: 288496)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405185
[09:41] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #405195 in quagga (main) "When stopping a specific daemon, _all_ routes are flushed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405195
[09:57] <_ruben> ouch, that'd be a severe bug i'd say
[11:36] <roxy> Hi dears, please sombody can help me...i am having problems ... for somereason I los the comunication among Vlans and I can do ping from one vlan to another one
[11:36] <roxy> i didn't any change, it just happended
[11:46] <\sh> roxy: hmmm? trunk or access switch configuration...when you are on trunk, and you're tagging the pakets via 8021q i would say it
[11:46] <\sh> 's a routing problem more on your router/switch side
[12:08] <roxy> hi sorry, my internet was down
[12:08] <roxy> thanks /sh
[12:09] <roxy> do you mean is a sitch or router problem cause also I have iptables
[12:11] <\sh> roxy: depending on your vlan setup....normally you need a switch/router with trunk ports to tag your pakets (when you have "vlan" interfaces on your linux machine)...if you have still ethN or bondN interfaces and no vlan interfaces, you are running an accessport configuration on your switch with vlan ids configured per switch port
[12:12] <\sh> (which means access ports)...if you don't have any tcp connection between your networks, then it could be an access list prob or an iptables prob (when you don't run access lists on your vlan router)
[12:14] <\sh> actually when you can ping, your interfaces are ok...so it's something else...not the vlan interfaces on your machine
[12:15] <roxy> no, i can ping from different vlan,..i can ping from the server to soem printer printer (which is in another vlan), but i can ping from my PC to the printer (which are in the same swich but dirrent vlan)
[12:16] <roxy> when i do tracert (form my windows client) to the server, just show me one route, but when i do to the printer show my extrenal address
[12:16] <\sh> roxy: as said, it has nothing to do with your machine itself..it's a routing/firewall/paketfilter/access list problem
[12:16] <\sh> you should consult your network admin
[12:17] <roxy> you mean in iptables?
[12:17] <\sh> roxy: I don't know which network infrastructure you are using...if your router uses iptables, most probably
[12:17] <roxy> well, I am new in that and I need to resolve it
[12:18] <roxy> yes, I do, but i did not any modification and this just stop today
[12:19] <\sh> roxy: check your iptables rules then...no problem regarding ubuntu-server or any ubuntu package...local network problem :)
[12:20] <roxy> do you know which ruler can let me ping betwenn vlans?
[12:20] <roxy> fro ecample vlan 1 and 2?
[12:21] <\sh> roxy: I don't know your network infrastructure...ask someone who setup your infrastructure...it's nothing I/we can debug from here...
[12:23] <roxy> well, this is the problme there ar eno body just me
[12:23] <roxy> and i dont have any documentation about the configuration
[12:24] <\sh> roxy: company? or just a hobby setup? if it's a company...kick your manager
[12:25] <roxy> well, i will try to fin the problem first, thanks any way
[12:47] <roxy> I have another question, sorry I am new..i am installing a okidata B6300, everything ok, but I don't know how configurate the ppd file, everything in thye file is commented
[14:16] <Kira> Which ftp server is the most popular among Ubuntu users?
[14:17] <Bilge> Why don't you make a poll
[14:17] <Kira> in the forums?
[14:17] <Kira> meh
[14:17] <Bilge> Well not on IRC
[14:17] <Kira> I think I shoul.
[14:19] <Kira> When the Ubuntu OS installer asks you for desired server roles, FTP server is one of the choices, right? I don't know how I missed it.
[14:21] <andol> Kira: I don't know which of ftp servers is the most popular, but I know vsftpd is one of the most popular
[14:22] <andol> Kira: Regarding the installation, pretty sure there is no FTP server role. The command "sudo tasksel --list-tasks | grep -i ftp" gave me no answers, on an Ubuntu 9.04 system.
[14:41] <Kira> ah
[14:41] <Kira> so it's not just me.
[14:43] <RoyK> erm. when I try to 'halt' my opensolaris vm on virtualbox, it starts shutting down and then it just hangs
[14:52] <j0nr> trying to get my mail server to allow me to use it to send mail from remote clients... i.e. use it as a smtp server but i keep getting relay access denied. I have set up (i believe) the very basic dovecot and postfix requirements (no certs) but it stil doesnt work
[14:52] <j0nr> where do i start?
[14:56] <Sam-I-Am> j0nr: http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[14:57] <Sam-I-Am> it doesnt consider the machine you're using to send the message as local, hence the error.
[15:00] <j0nr> Sam-I-Am: slightly confused... the mahcine I am using is my windows mobile device...
[15:10] <Sam-I-Am> j0nr: so, windows mobile is the client, ubuntu is the server
[15:10] <Sam-I-Am> is the windows mobile device always on a network you control or somewhere in the world?
[15:15] <j0nr> Sam-I-Am: just on the orange network
[15:16] <j0nr> the error i get is "check you have network coverage and account info is correct" .. i know i have coverage as i am able to recieve mail
[15:18] <Sam-I-Am> since your device is not on a secured network, you'll need to configure authentication on your mail server
[15:18] <Sam-I-Am> once authenticated, you can originate mail from anywhere.
[15:57] <j0nr> Sam-I-Am: I am trying to set up authentication suing this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix but it seems to be not working
[15:58] <Sam-I-Am> does it return any errors?
[16:04] <ScottK> j0nr: Look in the server guide.  It's got directions that work.
[16:05] <Sam-I-Am> ScottK: ha, sounds like we should remove docs that dont work :/
[16:05] <Sam-I-Am> have the same problem with openldap
[16:05] <ScottK> j0nr: Which release are you using?
[16:05] <Sam-I-Am> usually with certs
[16:05] <ScottK> Sam-I-Am: It's a wiki, so people can fix it.
[16:05] <Sam-I-Am> ah
[16:05] <ScottK> ... or remove it.
[16:06] <ScottK> https://help.ubuntu.com/
[16:09] <ball> Time for a sandwich.
[16:17]  * ball returns, avec sandwich
[16:23] <j0nr> I have it working!!
[16:23] <j0nr> at last
[16:23] <j0nr> following many different guides, it finally works
[16:23] <j0nr> :D
[16:24] <j0nr> unfortunately 'blindly' following guides but i can;t hope to 'really' understand what I am doing, its not my job
[16:31] <ball> j0nr: what's working?
[16:32] <Daviey> j0nr: \o/
[16:32] <Daviey> j0nr: You could try and re-create it.. following the guide
[16:33] <ball> Is the on-demand governor a KVM thing, or part of Ubuntu Server?
[16:33] <ball> (is it specific to Ubuntu?)
[16:34] <ball> hello Daviey!
[16:34] <Daviey> hey ball
[16:35] <Daviey> ball: not exactly sure what you mean tbh.
[16:35] <ball> Daviey: I'm trying to find out more about things kirland mentioned in the podcast
[16:36] <Daviey> The Ubuntu kernel includes an on-demand governor
[16:36] <Daviey> since 2.6.9 iirc
[16:36] <ball> ...does that Just Work[tm] on suitably-equipped hardware?
[16:37] <ball> (is there a utility I can use to watch the cpu & bus speed?)
[17:16] <n8bounds> any Canonical Ubuntu Server support customers in the Room?
[17:56] <incorrect> hi, can anyone suggest an alternative to dss (darwin streaming server) apple seem to have dropped support for linux
[17:57] <jpds> icecast?
[17:59] <incorrect> never tried it
[18:01] <incorrect> does that only stream mp3's and oggs
[18:05]  * ball hugs Ogg/Vorbis
[18:15]  * ball sighs
[18:15] <ball> I really have to go.
[18:29] <cypr1nus> has anyone tried installing joomla on ubuntu server? whenever I want to install joomla using address: <IP_ADDRESS>/joomla it wants to download some .phtml file, while simple php file with only phpinf() in different directory, works ok
[18:29] <cypr1nus> ?
[18:51] <bitprophet> cypr1nus: your Apache config, or an htaccess file, needs to set some kind of AddHandler so that .phtml files get interpreted as, I guess, php. (Most likely.)
[18:52] <cypr1nus> most likely not, because it's the second time i install joomla and in the previous case everything hoes fine without any handlers
[19:11] <ivoks> hello
[19:11] <sommer> ivoks: yo
[19:12] <ivoks> sommer: how are you?
[19:13] <sommer> ivoks: not bad... livin the dream, how bout yourself?
[19:13] <jmedina> ivoks: helol
[19:13] <ivoks> livin the dream? what's the dream about? :)
[19:13] <ivoks> jmedina: hi
[19:13] <sommer> ivoks: waiting for football season to start again :-)
[19:15] <ivoks> i'm enjoying the sun :)
[19:16] <sommer> good times... you on vacation?
[19:16] <ivoks> working vacation
[19:16] <ivoks> when you run your own company, there are no vacations any more :/
[19:17] <sommer> ah, I hear ya
[19:18] <ivoks> nice... debian moved drbd to dkms
[19:19] <jmedina> vacation? what is that?
[19:19]  * jmedina is a robot
[19:21] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #404917 in samba (main) "mounted samba shares unavailable after suspend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404917
[19:29] <metalfan_> hi
[19:29] <metalfan_> is there somewhere a kernel with imq support for ubuntu thats somwhat maintained?
[19:32] <ball> What's an imq?
[19:32] <jmedina> a Intermediate queue
[19:32] <jmedina> used for ingress traffic shapping
[19:33] <ball> ah, okay.
[19:33] <jmedina> imq emulates a network interface
[19:34] <jmedina> Im not sure if IMQ is built in in the kernel
[19:35] <jmedina> there are other alternatives like IFB (Intermediate Frame Block)
[19:35] <jmedina> http://www.shorewall.net/traffic_shaping.htm#IFB
[19:35] <jmedina> we use shorewall for ingress  traffic shapping
[19:35] <jmedina> it is enable in hardy kernel
[19:36] <jmedina> $ grep -i iFB /boot/config-2.6.24-24-generic
[19:36] <jmedina> CONFIG_IFB=m
[19:36] <jmedina> imq isnt
[19:36] <metalfan_> yes, modprobe coudnt load imq
[19:36] <metalfan_> will look into ifb
[19:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #405421 in drbd8 (universe) "Please sync drbd8 8.3.2-2 (main) from Debian unstable" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405421
[19:55] <mathiaz> ivoks: ^^ does this require some work on the kernel part?
[19:55] <ivoks> no
[19:55] <ivoks> drbd was removed from kernel
[19:55] <mathiaz> ivoks: like dropping the drbd module from the u-module?
[19:56] <mathiaz> ivoks: ah ok - it has already been done
[19:56] <ivoks> oh, it wasn;t...
[19:56] <mathiaz> ivoks: I don't know - that's why I ask?
[19:56] <ivoks> i'm sure i've seen a post that tim removed it...
[19:56] <ivoks> let me check
[19:57] <ivoks> i'll file a bug to remove it
[19:57] <mathiaz> ivoks: change CN_IDX_DRBD to 0x6 in drbd/linux/drbd.h
[19:57] <ivoks> doh
[19:57] <mathiaz> ivoks: is this still an issue in Ubuntu?
[19:57] <ivoks> nope
[19:57] <ivoks> drbd now can dynamicaly assign cn_idx
[19:58] <ivoks> and it is provided in modprobe.d/dkms
[19:58] <ivoks> MODULES_CONF[0]="options drbd cn_idx=7"
[19:58] <jmedina> :O
[20:00] <ivoks> hm, tim said that he removed it from kernel
[20:00] <ivoks> but it's still here
[20:00] <ivoks> ah, no... i'm running jaunty kernel :)
[20:01] <mathiaz> ivoks: I've acked your merge request
[20:01] <ivoks> great... thanks
[20:01] <mathiaz> ivoks: the new drbd package should in the archive in a few days
[20:02] <mathiaz> ivoks: will you be around tomorrow for the meeting?
[20:02] <ivoks> well need to merge corosync, openais and pacemaker in next two weeks
[20:02] <ivoks> i'll try, but i don't promise anything since i'll be travelling tomorrow
[20:03] <mathiaz> ivoks: understood :)
[20:03] <ivoks> i have to get up and go to zagreb, and then back again
[20:06] <ScottK> mathiaz: Did you see Debian uploaded mysql 5.1 to Unstable?
[20:06] <mathiaz> ScottK: yes
[20:07] <mathiaz> ScottK: I need to check if the two blockers I noticed have been fixed
[20:07] <mathiaz> ScottK: 1. test suite enbaled
[20:07] <mathiaz> ScottK: 2. cluster support
[20:07] <mathiaz> ScottK: for the latter, cluster support is not enabled in 5.1
[20:08] <mathiaz> ScottK: one proposal is to check if the cluster engine is used in the install and not upgrade if so
[20:08] <mathiaz> ScottK: I'm not sure if this is the best solution though
[20:11] <ScottK> mysql 5.1 in Main will make it possible to simplify our amarok packaging in Kubuntu.
[20:18] <mathiaz> ScottK: right. Doesn't akonadi rely on mysql 5.0?
[20:18] <ScottK> It does.
[20:18] <mathiaz> ScottK: the plan is to get only one version of MySQL in main
[20:18] <ScottK> It was using 5.0 due to maturity concerns though.
[20:18] <ivoks> so it should work with 5.1, right?
[20:18] <ScottK> AFAIK, yes.
[20:19] <ivoks> for server, we should move to 5.1
[20:19] <ivoks> it would be nice if there won't be kde apps that need 5.0
[20:20] <ScottK> I really don't think it's a problem, but I'll check.
[20:21] <mathiaz> ScottK: I don't think there should be a problem as akonadi is starting its own mysqld process
[20:22] <mathiaz> ScottK: rather than using an embedded mysqld
[20:22]  * ScottK nods
[20:40] <ScottK> mathiaz: Riddell is going to do some testing, probably tomorrow.
[20:58] <bitprophet> Anyone here use rsyslog? curious whether the apparently-really-old version shipping with 8.04/Hardy (rsyslog 1.19) even supports the TSL/SSL stuff that seemed to be its big draw
[20:59] <ScottK> dunno about Hardy, but it's the default syslog starting in Karmic.
[20:59] <bitprophet> and in the next Debian too, I think.
[21:00] <bitprophet> Sadly most of my systems -- the *newer* ones, that is -- are on Hardy :(
[21:00] <bitprophet> wonder if our centos boxes even have rsyslog in yum. bleah.
[21:06] <jmedina> bitprophet: isnt disabled at compile time? some debian projects disable TLS /SSL because license confilicts or something
[21:07] <jmedina> or probably compiled agains gnutl
[21:07] <jmedina> gnutls
[21:09] <bitprophet> could be
[21:09] <bitprophet> but I don't think this old rsyslog version even had TLS upstream, so nothing for debian to disable. ha.
[21:09] <bitprophet> so might be time for me to brush up on my ssh tunneling or stunnel whee.
[21:10] <jmedina> openssh vpn is easy
[21:10] <jmedina> no x509 certs involved
[21:38] <jhrozek_> Hello, anyone using Cobbler for deploying Ubuntu around here?
[23:01] <quizme> i'm getting permission denied even though I have write access........ anybody know why?   # echo "hi" > /etc/bind9/named.conf.local
[23:13] <jmedina>  /etc/bind9, that dir exists?
[23:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #405518 in samba (main) "package smbfs 3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.8 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405518