[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[12:12] <mhall119> morning
[14:58] <dholbach> nigelb, mhall119, cjohnston, did you get more mails about loco directory explosions?
[14:58] <mhall119> dholbach: yeah, looks like we hit a db column limit
[15:00] <mhall119> wait no....someone's trying to register as attending with 250000 guests :(
[15:01] <dholbach> super
[15:01] <mhall119> czajkowski: you having a big part and all of Ireland's invited?
[15:01] <mhall119> s/part/party/
[15:02] <czajkowski> mhall119: aye we're having one just for me and we had one last wee3k for canonical usually we have just 1 a month
[15:03] <mhall119> czajkowski: who's brining the 250 thousand guests?
[15:04] <czajkowski> mhall119: ahhh that would be ebel
[15:04] <czajkowski> take it up with him
[15:04] <czajkowski> he has an issue with the field
[15:07] <mhall119> dholbach: found the source of the bug, czajkowski will squash it
[15:07] <mhall119> ;)
[15:08] <czajkowski> not my fault my team is awesom we have lots of ubuntu hours
[15:08] <dholbach> awesome
[15:09] <nigelb> dholbach: I did
[15:10] <mhall119> nigelb: too late, we've already got it solved
[15:10] <mhall119> you can go back to bed
[15:10] <nigelb> mhall119: Nah, packing
[15:10] <mhall119> going on a trip?
[15:10] <nigelb> heading back after a trip
[15:10] <mhall119> ah
[15:17] <czajkowski> mhall119: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/806005
[15:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 806005 in loco-directory "Error (as opposed to validation error) given if person enters more than 32,000 for 'number of guests' (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[15:17] <daker> Woo lol
[15:19] <czajkowski> mhall119: see bug reported :)
[15:30] <kim0> Hi folks
[15:30] <kim0> I'm showing up as kim02 on http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/egyptlocoteam/1055/detail/
[15:30] <kim0> which I'm assuming is a bug
[15:31] <nigelb> mhall119: Don't we have a cron for that? ^
[15:31] <kim0> There's a cron for that
[15:31] <kim0> :)
[15:32] <nigelb> kim0: Yeah to merge your accounts )
[15:32] <nigelb> :)
[15:33] <kim0> nigelb: my accounts ? I only have one account
[15:33] <kim0> kim02 is a non existent account
[15:33] <nigelb> kim0: err, yeah. I meant "name" field
[15:33] <kim0> so why is it wrong in the first place
[15:34] <kim0> duct taping cron around every problem :)
[15:34] <nigelb> Its an openid thing
[15:34] <kim0> so I should wait and it'd heal
[15:35] <nigelb> kim0: Waiting for mhall119 to confirm. I don't know if the fix went in or not.
[15:35]  * kim0 nods
[15:35] <kim0> thanks man
[15:37] <mhall119> nigelb: I don't think it's on a cron, no
[15:37] <mhall119> nigelb: we can file an RT to have it run though
[15:37] <nigelb> mhall119: ah, we were planning to have it run often or something?
[15:38] <nigelb> kim0: my bad, its not a cron. We need to get it run manually
[15:38] <kim0> hmm np then
[15:38] <kim0> it's not a biggie
[15:52] <mhall119> nigelb: no, because it takes a long time to run.  Plus it'll be obsolete once we get the new django-openid-auth
[15:52] <mhall119> which reminds me, I need to talk to IS about that
[15:52] <nigelb> mhall119: Oh good!
[15:52] <nigelb> mhall119: Do oyu know what happened of the request for summit to get more info from SSO?
[15:54] <mhall119> nope, what extra info were you wanting?
[15:55] <nigelb> mhall119: I was wanting SSO to release full name
[15:55] <mhall119> oh, ok
[15:56] <nigelb> mhall119: That way we could have everyone's full name instead of just their ID.
[15:56] <czajkowski> mhall119: to be fair nice bug to spot :)
[15:56] <mhall119> czajkowski: ebel's?
[15:56] <nigelb> That would help fix the "should use Full Name instead of Launchpad ID" bugs.
[15:56] <mhall119> nigelb: ok
[15:57] <mhall119> nigelb: did you file an RT?
[15:57] <nigelb> mhall119: I begged you to file an RT
[15:57] <mhall119> :(
[15:57] <mhall119> I failed
[15:57] <czajkowski> mhall119: aye
[15:57] <nigelb> mhall119: anthony wanted someone who "owned" summit to file the RT
[15:57] <mhall119> czajkowski: yeah, as much as my inbox didn't like it
[15:57] <mhall119> still, he could have stopped after hitting the limit the first time ;)
[15:58] <mhall119> nigelb: you won it
[15:58] <mhall119> own it
[15:58] <mhall119> both, actually
[15:58] <nigelb> mhall119: No, from Canonical.
[15:59] <mhall119> nobody in Canonical owns it
[15:59] <nigelb> mhall119: i.e. a stakeholder
[15:59] <czajkowski> mhall119: how was he to know who'd get the error messages to be fair
[15:59] <czajkowski> lessof the cranky that's mine or paultags area
[16:00] <nigelb> mhall119: what's the korean tracebacks though?
[16:00] <mhall119> nigelb: unicode bug, I sumbitted an MP for it already
[16:00] <mhall119> czajkowski: not being cranky, just being snarky
[16:01] <czajkowski> less snark
[16:01] <mhall119> nigelb: nobody in canonical wants a stake in it
[16:01] <czajkowski> :)
[16:01] <czajkowski> capache
[16:01] <nigelb> mhall119: ah, I figured, but I wanted to check with you
[16:01] <mhall119> czajkowski: okay, but only because I just poured my 3rd cup of coffee
[16:01] <nigelb> mhall119: lol, I'll rephrase fruther.
[16:01] <czajkowski> mhall119: i like you when you are you
[16:01] <nigelb> mhall119: someone with physical access to the machine is a stakeholder
[16:01]  * mhall119 misses the irish accent
[16:01] <mhall119> nigelb: ah, you got me there
[16:01] <czajkowski> mhall119: skype me any time to rant to
[16:02] <nigelb> mhall119: that's how achuni got me too
[16:02] <nigelb> he said, get a stakeholder, "er, no stakeholder"
[16:02] <mhall119> czajkowski: Irish accents make rants 43% better
[16:03] <czajkowski> oh tune in next time i have an issue with vlc so
[16:03] <nigelb> mhall119: About 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot
[16:03] <mhall119> +1
[16:04] <mhall119> "Don't believe everything you hear on the internet" -- Abraham Lincoln
[16:05] <nigelb> mhall119 / cjohnston: Web Team jam during UGJ?
[16:05] <mhall119> yeah!
[16:06] <nigelb> \o/
[16:06] <mhall119> we can test the hybrid physical/virtual events feature
[16:06] <nigelb> YES
[16:06] <nigelb> (Wasn't that our original use-case?)
[16:07] <mhall119> I think so, yeah
[16:07] <nigelb> mhall119: We need to extend it to be 24 hours.
[16:07] <nigelb> I can be around longer
[16:09] <mhall119> nigelb: we can work past the end time you know
[16:10] <nigelb> mhall119: as opposed to not being able to work at all lsat time...
[16:10] <mhall119> :P
[16:10] <nigelb> mhall119: I've discovered that its impoosible to work at a UGJ if you're the person organizing it
[16:10] <nigelb> and the only people who come are looking for goodies :/
[16:10] <mhall119> cjohnston: nigelb: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1056/detail/
[16:10] <paultag> nigelb: dude, bah
[16:10] <paultag> nigelb: just spread out work, and make sure the team rocks
[16:11] <nigelb> I'll join the florida loco temporarily for this
[16:11] <paultag> nigelb: I get more work done during a GJ or any sort of J then anything else
[16:11] <mhall119> nigelb: you can register as attending without being on the team
[16:11] <nigelb> mhall119: I didn't mean technically, I meant y'know  join in terms of identify with
[16:12] <mhall119> it's an open team
[16:12] <nigelb> mhall119: I know what, 6 to 7 people on fl locoteam
[16:13] <mhall119> I don't know, how many do you know?
[16:13] <mhall119> I can think of 5
[16:14] <nigelb> you, chris, andres, chris christafuli, michelle, dan
[16:14] <mhall119> ah, dan, wasn't sure if you knew him
[16:14] <mhall119> ok, 6
[16:14] <nigelb> add jorge since he'll be in FL by then :D
[16:15] <nigelb> Does Eliot fall under your loco?
[16:15] <mhall119> once he moves down here, yeah
[16:15] <mhall119> yes, he's in the LoCo
[16:15] <nigelb> ok, one more
[16:15] <nigelb> 8 -- not bad
[16:15] <nigelb> probably competiting with california loco
[16:15] <nigelb> *competing
[16:15] <mhall119> heh
[16:16] <mhall119> how many people in the India loco do you know?
[16:16] <nigelb> Not many :p
[16:16] <paultag> how is the FL LoCo any bit LO to you nigelb
[16:16] <paultag> I mean ffs :)
[16:16] <nigelb> paultag: haha
[16:16] <mhall119> paultag: because he's on Florida time
[16:16] <nigelb> ^^ that!
[16:16] <paultag> nigelb: once you move to FL I'll change my mind about how stupid that is :)
[16:17] <mhall119> how stupid what is?
[16:17] <mhall119> EDT?
[16:17] <paultag> mhall119: nigel being on a team 12 hours away from him, at best :)
[16:17] <nigelb> mhall119: I know crashsystems too (briefly)
[16:17] <mhall119> but once he moves to FL, he won't be 12 hours away
[16:18] <paultag> that's what I'm saying mhall119 :)
[16:18] <mhall119> paultag: I still don't get it :(
[16:18] <mhall119> nigelb: yeah, but he's in cali now too
[16:18] <nigelb> mhall119: hah, 7 people on california team :P
[16:18] <mhall119> I think half the cali team is former floridians
[16:19] <paultag> jono?
[16:19] <paultag> david wonderly?
[16:19] <paultag> lyz?
[16:19] <mhall119> I said half
[16:19] <jono> hey paultag
[16:19] <paultag> markt?
[16:19] <paultag> jono: sorry for the ping, we were talking about ubuntu-us-ca :)
[16:19] <paultag> jono: I was saying you were never flordia-ian :)
[16:20] <jono> yup
[16:20] <pleia2> it's not florida specifically, we steal from all loco teams :)
[16:20] <jono> :-)
[16:20] <paultag> pleia2: truth :)
[16:20] <pleia2> almost had paultag!
[16:20] <pleia2> ;)
[16:21] <paultag> pleia2: I know!!!! So close :)
[16:21] <nigelb> haha
[16:21] <paultag> pleia2: how are you this fine morn?
[16:21] <nigelb> pleia2: back from vacation?
[16:21] <pleia2> paultag: good :) working working
[16:21] <pleia2> nigelb: sadly
[16:21] <nigelb> I hope you had loads of fun and rest :)
[16:22] <paultag> pleia2: good stuff :)
[16:22] <nigelb> pleia2: mhall119 just discovered I know about 8 people on his team and about 7 in cali loco :p
[16:24] <paultag> I miss LoCoHiO
[16:24] <pleia2> I hear Cheri is taking good care of it :)
[16:25] <paultag> pleia2: she sure is
[16:25] <paultag> I'm happy with the handoff, and I'm stoked about the new blood
[16:25] <pleia2> poor pennsylvania saw a mass exodus the year I left (lost active people to Maine, Louisiana, California)
[16:26] <paultag> pleia2: :'(
[16:26] <paultag> pleia2: how is CA, if you don't mind me asking
[16:27] <nigelb> I remember a comment from David at UDS when you talk about us-ca
[16:27] <pleia2> paultag: practically perfect in every way :)
[16:27] <paultag> pleia2: awesome, no more NorCal v SoCal ?
[16:27] <nigelb> paultag: everyone accepts pleia2 as princess and bows down to her :P
[16:27]  * nigelb ducks
[16:28] <pleia2> paultag: it never was that really, just personalities, and a lot of people have backed down
[16:28] <paultag> pleia2: that's really good to hear, ya'll have been doing a rock'n job :)
[16:28] <pleia2> we are a pretty busy team :)
[16:28] <paultag> :)
[16:29] <pleia2> our reapproval app is almost done, but due to our history we have about 40 layers of bureaucracy to make sure everyone has a say and no one is the ruler
[16:29] <pleia2> but it's ok :)
[16:29] <paultag> pleia2: awesome. I can't wait for it! :)
[16:32] <nigelb> pleia2: wow, great news from when you told me baout it at UDS :)
[16:32] <pleia2> nigelb: bah, uds is for off band ranting, every team has troubles
[16:32] <nigelb> pleia2: :)
[18:27] <YoBoY> arg, forgot the team report last week :O
[18:27]  * pleia2 needs to work on those too


[00:00] <madnick> xunubi: terminal + nano launcher.desktop :)
[00:01] <madnick> but yeah
[00:01] <madnick> that sounds odd
[00:01] <xunubi> Exec=wine'/home/xunubi/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/Wow.exe'
[00:01] <madnick> make it
[00:02] <madnick> Exec=wine /home/xunubi/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of  Warcraft/Wow.exe
[00:02] <madnick> Acctually might need separtors
[00:02] <madnick> not sure
[00:02] <madnick> try that
[00:02] <madnick> :)
[00:03] <madnick> Its just passed to argv, so not sure if that space will make it argv[2], perhaps the launcher takes care of that :)
[00:04] <xunubi> I copied it, exactly as you posted, I got "error - failed to execute command ... it cuts the command short, finishing at "drive_c/Program" (No such file or directory)
[00:04] <madnick> yeah
[00:04] <madnick> figures :)
[00:04] <madnick> do
[00:04] <madnick> /home/xunubi/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ WarCraft/Wow.exe
[00:04] <madnick> :)
[00:05] <madnick> fix that caps C :P
[00:06] <Unit193> madnick: Would this help at all? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[00:06] <madnick> Not me :)
[00:06] <madnick> wine "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe"
[00:06] <xunubi> not unless it is specifically for XFCE Unit193, I've ran wow successfully for a long time on linux, it seems to be a problem with thunar
[00:06] <madnick> might work
[00:06] <xunubi> but thanks for suggestion
[00:07] <madnick> try that as command
[00:07] <madnick> if mine did not work
[00:07] <xunubi> neither work, error box just waves at me some more and sticks out its tongue lol
[00:09] <madnick> :\
[00:09] <madnick> Odd indeed :)
[00:10] <xunubi> Oh well, it's probably doing me a favour, now I will do something productive instead of kill pixels with more pixels in a world full of pixels :)
[00:10] <madnick> Well, you can still run it lol
[00:10] <madnick> Just not directly with that
[00:11] <madnick> xunubi: I hate to ask but, you do have wine right?
[00:12] <xunubi> madnick: hehe yes. though one weird thing during install, it included wine tricks, which it usually doesn't when i install from terminal (sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get install wine)
[00:13] <madnick> :)
[00:23] <xunubi> Fixed it the lazy way.  Sudo apt-get remove Thunar | Sudo apt-get install Nautilus lol.
[00:46] <GridCube> D: why would anyone want to use nautilus on xfce?
[01:38] <JoeR1> is anyone awake??
[01:39] <charlie-tca> no
[01:39] <charlie-tca> !ask
[01:39] <charlie-tca> If you need to just chat, we have #xubuntu-offtopic
[01:40] <charlie-tca> JoeR1: we are a small group, and the channel is not even close to being as busy as #ubuntu
[01:41] <JoeR1> charlie-tca, I don't need to chat i was just trying to see if someone was here
[01:41] <charlie-tca> We have people here all the time, but the channel is relatively quiet most of the time.
[01:41] <JoeR1> Xubuntu has once again lost all of the xfce functionality
[01:41] <charlie-tca> explain
[01:41] <JoeR1> I was hoping I could get that list of things to run in terminal again
[01:42] <JoeR1> the desktop contextual menu is gone
[01:42] <JoeR1> for example
[01:42] <charlie-tca> oh, your desktop is messing with you again
[01:42] <JoeR1> indeed
[01:42] <JoeR1> and you helped me before but I forgot the names of the things to run
[01:42] <charlie-tca> Check that xfce4-session, xfce4-settings-helper, xfwm4, and xfdesktop are running. If any of these fail to start, the desktop will not start correctly.
[01:43] <charlie-tca> It may be necessary to install or start any of these:
[01:43] <charlie-tca> xfce4-settings-helper
[01:43] <charlie-tca> xfce4-session
[01:43] <charlie-tca> xfwm4
[01:43] <charlie-tca> xfdesktop4
[01:43] <charlie-tca> xfce4-panel &&
[01:43] <charlie-tca> except that should be xfdesktop instead of xfdesktop4
[01:44] <charlie-tca> oh, crap
[01:44] <JoeR1> I think xfdesktop got it
[01:44] <charlie-tca> I got it backwards, it should be xfdesktop4 instead of xfdesktop
[01:44] <JoeR1> look sgood, thanks charlie
[01:44] <JoeR1> no, on my machine it is xfdesktop
[01:44] <charlie-tca> you are welcome. Drop by again when you feel like it.
[01:45] <charlie-tca> hard to keep all these versions straight sometimes
[01:45] <JoeR1> xfdesktop4 doesn't exist on my machine for some reason, I remember that from the last time
[01:45] <JoeR1> I hear you, thanks again
[01:46] <JoeR1> Oh, by the way, this time it had a very foolish reason (unlike last time when there was no reason)
[01:46] <JoeR1> I was changing my desktop "theme" settings
[01:46] <JoeR1> then it just lost it
[01:49] <charlie-tca> stay away from wildbush, it will lock you out of the desktop
[01:50] <JoeR1> what is wildblush?
[01:50] <JoeR1> or wildbush
[01:50] <knome> charlie-tca, i wonder if it's removed from oneiric.
[01:50] <charlie-tca> no
[01:51] <charlie-tca> but it is supposed to have been fixed
[01:51] <knome> right...
[01:51] <charlie-tca> JoeR1: it is a window manager theme
[01:51] <charlie-tca> found in Settings -> Window Manager
[01:52] <charlie-tca> it might be fixed. I just haven't tried it lately to make sure.
[01:52] <JoeR1> oh, well no rpoblem I was just changing a few visual queue's to match a background
[01:53] <JoeR1> hey do you know if there is a way to change the color of the fonts used on the desktop icons?
[01:53] <charlie-tca> knome knows
[01:53] <Corvus> Anyone have any idea how to force Xubuntu to allow a resolution higher than 1024x768? I have an integrated Intel 915 graphics controller.
[01:53] <knome> charlie-tca, JoeR1: don't know, sorry :/
[01:54] <charlie-tca> Corvus: installed the hardware driver?
[01:54] <Corvus> Yes.
[01:54] <JoeR1> sounds to me like get a better card but I'll bet your using a laptop
[01:54] <knome> JoeR1, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/change-colors-xfce-icon-text-and-text-background-470494/
[01:55] <knome> JoeR1, looks like you need to edit the gtk theme
[01:55] <Corvus> Only shows 1024x768 and a 0.0 refresh rate.
[01:56] <JoeR1> sweet, thanks knome
[01:56] <knome> np
[01:56] <charlie-tca> Corvus: this might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[01:57] <Corvus> Excellent. I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
[01:57] <charlie-tca> or this one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[01:59] <JoeR1> knome - do you know an alternate location for the .gtkrc file? It is not where the post suggested.
[02:00] <JoeR1> charlie-tca, - some day I will have to put some research into finding out why my system seems to be different from how it should be
[02:01] <knome> JoeR1, /usr/share/themes/themename
[02:01] <JoeR1> thanks again
[02:14] <JoeR1> Xubuntu crashed, it was fun
[02:15] <JoeR1> but now I have a question, is there a way for me to modify the text that shows for a specific action, for example I want to change "Empty Trash" to "Exterminate Trash"
[02:16] <charlie-tca> Not without a lot of work
[02:16] <JoeR1> work I am willing to put in
[02:16] <JoeR1> perhaps there is a guide online?
[02:17] <ruben> I installed Xubuntu 11.04. I have a Canon MP250 printer. Cant install the drivers.
[02:17] <charlie-tca> then grep the hard drive for the phrase, to find the file it is in, and change it, and if needed, re-compile/re-build Xfce
[02:17] <ruben> Can someono help me?
[02:17] <JoeR1> very well, I may be gone for some time
[02:18] <ruben> I installed Xubuntu 11.04. Cant install drivers for printer Canon MP250
[02:18] <charlie-tca> !patience
[02:18] <JoeR1> ruben, give me sec there is a list of printers that don't work with linux I think I have bookmarkd
[02:18] <charlie-tca> most printers do not need separate drivers for linux
[02:19] <ruben> This isnt listed in printer options when I try to install it
[02:20] <JoeR1> well to be fair it is a list of printer that are "useless in linux" - my printer was on the list, but I suppose thee is probably a way to make it work
[02:20] <charlie-tca> You can try a different but similar printer, that usually works
[02:21] <knome> "different but similar"
[02:21] <ruben> Thanks, Charlie, I tried several in the list without success
[02:22] <charlie-tca> I had an hp6L, hp4, hp2, both worked as drivers for it
[02:27] <localuser> I can't get panel to work
[02:32] <JoeR1> I just experienced my second xubuntu crash in 30 minutes and I was wondering if maybe someone has heard of the specific symptoms I experienced
[02:33] <localuser> wait, i think panel may have gotten removed somehow
[02:33] <localuser> What's the package name of panel?
[02:34] <JoeR1> oh I was just doing this, let me see if I can remember
[02:35] <JoeR1> xfce4-session, xfce4-settings-helper, xfwm4, and xfdesktop
[02:35] <JoeR1> try those
[02:35] <JoeR1> also try xfdesktop4
[02:36] <JoeR1> brb,  I have to use the restroom
[02:36] <localuser> It launches and does everything else fine, as far as i know panel is the only broken thing on that account
[02:38] <knome> localuser, alt+f2 > xfce4-panel
[02:39] <localuser> the command doesn't work
[02:39] <localuser> tried that, and the entry in the settings manager won't launch anything
[02:40] <localuser> panel works fine on a newly made account, though
[02:41] <knome> localuser, if you run that command in terminal, what happens?
[02:42] <knome> localuser, you probably want to remove .cache at least, that might solve the issue
[02:43] <localuser> if i switch to that account and run it, it just give me the command not found error
[02:44] <knome> localuser, if the command is not found, the xfce panels can't work in any user account
[02:44] <knome> localuser, or then there is something really wrong
[02:44] <localuser> which is why it puzzles me
[02:44] <knome> localuser, you can always do 'sudo apt-get install xfce4-panel' to be sure.
[02:45] <knome> also, try removing .cache
[02:45] <knome> from the users home dir
[02:45] <localuser> it acted weird on shutdown one day, the panel disappered, and programs just stopped one by one, running until then
[02:47] <localuser> it took a minute or two, then it wouldn't halt after the screen blacked, so i had to do a hard shutdown
[02:48] <localuser> I did a fsck recently when some errors apperead, so disk corruption maty explain some of it
[03:04] <localuser> how do I enable root login with the gui?
[03:07] <knome> why do you need to do that? it's not safe.
[03:09] <localuser> I just like to be able to
[03:09] <localuser> I've had it enabled on my other installs but forgot how I did it
[03:14] <knome> well, i've never done that so i can't help you. but also, i don't really really suggest it.
[03:15] <localuser> I know jaunty has a setting for it in a menu somewhere
[03:16] <bazhang> no it does not
[07:57] <carcinogen75> how i can control autorun programs in xfce?
[07:58] <carcinogen75> where this list of programs store?
[08:00] <Sysi> carcinogen75: settings → sessions and startup → autostart tab
[08:00] <Sysi> or you can save session on logout
[08:02] <carcinogen75> thank you, thats what i need
[14:38] <paul_uk> hey all, just installed a fresh install and have the 3d drivers installed.  I have 2 displays, how do I extend the primary instead of mirroring them?
[14:39] <mogitaff> you can use arandr or grandr (GUI for xrandr)
[14:40] <paul_uk> mogitaff: do i need to install that?
[14:41] <mogitaff> it's better yes :þ
[14:43] <paul_uk> mogitaff: bloody hell that was easy.  thanks very much for that!
[14:44] <mogitaff> you're welcome :)
[14:47] <paul_uk> what is the dock called at the bottom?  im trying to google a way to disable it.  Not really a fan of them
[14:48] <mogitaff> it's a panel
[14:48] <mogitaff> you can config it with right clic
[14:49] <mogitaff> right clic on panel > panel > panel preferences
[14:49] <paul_uk> mogitaff: again, thank you for that.  first day with xubuntu :).
[14:49] <mogitaff> you can remove it in the dialog box
[14:50] <paul_uk> yeah it's done :)
[14:50] <mogitaff> and not the last ! :D
[14:50] <mogitaff> congratulations
[14:52] <paul_uk> mogitaff: heh, it was really a process of elimination for me.  F13 died, so tried F15, didn't work.  Tried ubuntu, didn't work.  xubuntu does, so here I am ;)
[14:52] <mogitaff> :o)
[14:53] <jnsl_> the notification area applet is not playing nice with the wireless icon on xubuntu, sometime it disappear and sometimes (i think its the wireless) it makes a ton of white space on the dock
[14:53] <jnsl_> using AWN dock
[14:55] <mogitaff> have you look NetworkManager configuration ?
[15:18] <paul_uk> hey all, so i use grandr to setup my dual display.  i reboot and it's back to being cloned.  so how do i setup my displays to being streched upon each reboot?
[15:20] <mogitaff> in arandr, you can save the configuration et in grandr you can modify the layout
[15:20] <mogitaff> the clone is on gdm or after logon ?
[15:23] <paul_uk> mogitaff: the clone is before and after login
[15:23] <mogitaff> because on gdm the clone is normal
[15:23] <paul_uk> mogitaff: i can modify the layout but i don't see an option to say save this config
[15:23] <mogitaff> but after login, you should be in dual screen
[15:23] <mogitaff> the 'save button' is in arandr :þ
[15:23] <paul_uk> mogitaff: im dual screen always, but it's a clone rather than a stretch.  i want to move a window from screen A to B
[15:24] <knome> paul_uk, which grapichs card you have?
[15:24] <paul_uk> mogitaff: I've just got OK, Cancel and Apply.
[15:24] <paul_uk> knome: GTS 450
[15:25] <knome> paul_uk, nvidia? try nvidia-settings
[15:25] <paul_uk> knome: this isn't a gfx issue. It's a xorg.conf not getting updated by grandr
[15:25] <knome> paul_uk, yes, but nvidia-settings can do that
[15:25] <paul_uk> knome: im not using the nvidia drives, im using the 3d ones
[15:25] <knome> paul_uk, the experimental ones?
[15:25] <paul_uk> knome: yes
[15:25] <knome> paul_uk, okay
[15:26] <knome> paul_uk, the nvidia drivers are fabulous, btw ;)
[15:26] <paul_uk> knome: I'm sure they are, but they don't work for me.  All I get is a blank screen after boot up
[15:26] <knome> paul_uk, oh, too bad :( never had problems with them.
[15:26] <paul_uk> knome: hehe.  Well unfortunately I am not you.. ;)
[15:27] <paul_uk> so is there a way of updating xorg.conf or do i need to update this myself?
[15:27] <knome> paul_uk, mmh. weird to hear your card is not working though, because i've used both older and newer cards recently with the driver, and now problems
[15:28] <paul_uk> knome: i dunno.  it could be because im using a really old P4 board and its not supplying it with enough juice
[15:28] <knome> paul_uk, maybe, but it's hard to see how it would mean you can use the open source drivers but not the nvidia propietary drivers
[15:29] <paul_uk> knome: well after 2 weeks of playing with different distributions.  Fedora and Ubuntu.  I am just glad to have a working system again.
[15:30] <knome> paul_uk, yeah, i understand... did you try to debug the nvidia drivers, or just went for the exp ones?
[15:30] <paul_uk> knome: I tried all morning to debug the nvidia ones with ubuntu.  Then I installed xubuntu and saw the 3d option and used that and its working.  Well with this issue, but at least its working...
[15:31] <knome> paul_uk, yeah. arandr should be able to save the configuration though. have you ran it as root?
[15:31] <paul_uk> knome: well its grandr that I'm using, should i use arandr?
[15:32] <knome> hmm, haven't used them at all, but just a sec, i'll check what grandr says
[15:33] <knome> paul_uk, well, grandr should work too, but you should run that as root too
[15:34] <paul_uk> knome: ok now I know what you mean by saving it lol.  I'm using arandr now and I see that option.  It's totally missing from grandr.
[15:34] <knome> :)
[15:34] <paul_uk> knome: it's asking me for a filename to saveas..  what should it be?
[15:36] <knome> /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the default location
[15:37] <mogitaff> end of day
[15:37] <mogitaff> bye
[15:41] <paul_uk> actually it outputs to a .sh file which is line that executes xandr.  I've seen my xorg.conf file and it's 3 lines lol
[15:41] <knome> a-ha. then you can make that .sh file run at boot
[15:42] <paul_uk> knome: rather not.  xorg should be populated properly
[15:45] <paul_uk> great, xorg is failing to create a conf file...
[15:48] <charlie-tca> No longer required
[15:48] <Sysi> paul_uk: you mentioned you installed 3D driver, propietary ati/nvidia tool?
[15:48] <Sysi> s/tool/driver
[15:48] <knome> Sysi, no, he has the exp
[15:49] <Sysi> it would be sad to say "too bad" for open driver
[15:50] <Sysi> Xorg -configure only works when you don't have X running, xrandr script should work
[15:54] <paul_uk> Sysi: yes I am aware of that.  I'm stopping gdm before I try to rewrite xorg.conf
[15:54] <paul_uk> there is actually a xorg.conf.new that is created when i save the display settings with arandr.  but that fails to do anything of worth lol.
[15:54] <paul_uk> the only way to resolve my issue is to run the .sh file.  oh well.
[15:55] <paul_uk> knome: where do i put this .sh file so that it runs at boot?
[15:56] <knome> paul_uk, check applications -> settings -> settings manager -> sessions and startup -> tab application autostart
[15:56] <knome> paul_uk, (you don't need dualhead before desktop, do you?)
[15:56] <paul_uk> knome: before desktop, what do you mean?
[15:56] <paul_uk> knome: before I log in?
[15:56] <knome> yes
[15:56] <paul_uk> knome: nah im happy for it to be clone when i log in
[15:57] <knome> okay, then the option i suggested works fine
[15:59] <paul_uk> ok im testing it now..  is there a reason when i choose to reboot it goes to the login screen and then i have to choose to restart? O_o
[16:00] <paul_uk> knome: thanks for that, now my displays are playing ball.  :)  Cheers for your help!
[16:00] <knome> that's a bug, don't know how to fix it though. Sysi might know
[16:01] <knome> no problem, happy to help
[16:01] <paul_uk> knome: lol..  oh well i won't be rebooting much anyway.
[16:01] <knome> paul_uk, heh, yeah. once a day for me too...
[16:03] <Sysi> afaik there isn't any known fix
[16:05] <knome> i might be wrong, but it has something to do with the way panel is started
[16:07] <GridCube> hey people, if you think you know a question you see popping in here often and feel it need to be added to the top 10 FAQ please highlight me
[16:09] <knome> GridCube, just for reference, the way i gathered the FAQ last time was going through logs of 2 months just after a release, so i pretty much gathered the most frequent questions for the new release :)
[16:09] <knome> GridCube, i know that's some work, but actually you can browse the logs through quite quickly, since you only need to group questions, not read the conversations itself
[16:10] <GridCube> i have done that
[16:10] <GridCube> i mean, im doing that
[16:11] <GridCube> but the problem is that there is so many single questions, i've reduced it to 6 so far
[16:12] <knome> GridCube, mm, yeah
[16:12] <GridCube> and im afraid it will be biased by my impressions and not the real thing
[16:12] <knome> GridCube, can one see the progress somewhere?
[16:13] <GridCube> yes
[16:13]  * GridCube internets are not cooperating
[16:14] <knome> internetS ?
[16:14] <knome> :)
[16:14] <GridCube> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HyhsMPDyyN-mRWRujfZX3JuKX9aWFQPWsxMEiJX99gQ/edit?hl=es
[16:14] <GridCube> yep, the internets
[16:14] <GridCube> given that the internets are made of hundreds of different nets its internets, and no internet
[16:47] <LogicallyDashing> The xfce4 terminal isn't taking my ALT key. I can get the same effect by using ESC as a prefix but I don't think I should have to do that.
[16:50] <charlie-tca> I usually just use what works now instead of what I think should work.
[17:28] <paul_uk> hey guys, really noob question but can't work it out and too many results in google.  How do I map a network drive?
[17:28] <Sysi> check out gigolo
[17:29] <paul_uk> cool thanks for that!
[17:30] <paul_uk> there's me thinking i could connect to milfs and hire myself out :p
[20:26] <d0lphchrisT> hi guys, my system has just hang up and i would appreciate some troubleshooting ;)
[20:27] <d0lphchrisT> I'm a C programmer but I don't know much about Linux.
[20:27] <d0lphchrisT> I'm using Xubuntu with 3 XServer for my 3 screens.
[20:28] <d0lphchrisT> After restarting I get a blackscreen after the Xubuntu-Logo without any further messages
[20:28] <d0lphchrisT> Does somebody know in which log-files i should search for what?
[20:30] <charlie-tca> look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:30] <charlie-tca> That should have any issues as warnings or errors
[20:30] <d0lphchrisT> ok thx, i will one moment please...
[20:38] <d0lphchrisT> I'm sorry I can't find the thing that might be wrong would you might have a look at the log file?
[20:39] <charlie-tca> If that doesn't show anything, maybe /var/log/syslog does?
[20:39] <d0lphchrisT> I will take a look
[20:41] <d0lphchrisT> The last entry there is this one:
[20:41] <d0lphchrisT> Aug 23 22:19:45 fnord kernel: [   70.533914] firefox-bin[1821]: segfault at 4 ip b4e8fc18 sp bf9a4a80 error 4 in fglrx-libGL.so.1.2[b4e16000+c9000]
[20:41] <d0lphchrisT> which i find a bit odd, because I'm not even getting to the login screen
[20:42] <charlie-tca> using ati video?
[20:42] <d0lphchrisT> yes
[20:42] <d0lphchrisT> I got an ATI Radeon HD 5700 and the newest catalyst compiled manually
[20:42] <charlie-tca> That seems to be where the problem is, then.
[20:43] <charlie-tca> fglrx-libGL.so.1.3
[20:43] <charlie-tca> fglrx-libGL.so.1.2
[20:43] <charlie-tca> rather
[20:43] <charlie-tca> but I don't know how to fix it
[20:43] <d0lphchrisT> ok I will do some research, thanks for the help
[20:44] <charlie-tca> maybe this will help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[20:45] <charlie-tca> or this one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[20:47] <d0lphchrisT> thanks, I'll have a look
[21:00] <d0lphchrisT> I've just remembered that I've updated the XServer today, I think this caused the problem.
[21:00] <d0lphchrisT> Do you know how I can reverse an update? Is there some kind of package with an older revision i can get?
[21:00] <d0lphchrisT> I've tried to look inside the /var/cache/apt/archives/ like the first article tells, but there's only the current version
[21:03] <charlie-tca> I don't. I could refer you to #ubuntu-x, where those who wrote that sometimes hang out
[21:04] <d0lphchrisT> ok thx
[21:04] <charlie-tca> older files can be difficult to find. Maybe the cd's have them, too?
[21:09] <d0lphchrisT> True, I'll have a look. Thanks so far and a nice evening to you :)
[21:53] <d0lphchrisT> Hi again, charlie-tca :)
[21:53] <d0lphchrisT> Solved the problem.
[21:55] <d0lphchrisT> Ive purged fglrx, xserver-xorg-video-ati, xserver-xorg-video-radeon, then I've reinstalled the mesa drivers and at least installed fglrx again.
[21:55] <d0lphchrisT> Then I had to create a new Xorg.conf for my 3 screens and now it works again.
[21:55] <d0lphchrisT> Thanks for the help again
[22:19] <JoeR1> I have a custom login theme and I do not know how to install it
[22:20] <knome> JoeR1, afaik, you need gdm2setup to accomplish that
[22:22] <JoeR1> Is afaik a typo?
[22:22] <knome> no, it's an abbreviation of "as far as i know"
[22:22] <Unit193> As far as I know
[22:22] <knome> erm, not abbr, but an acronym :P
[22:22] <JoeR1> ah, I never was good with net shorthand
[22:22] <knome> i always confuse those two.
[22:23] <JoeR1> So I suppose I will have to look into ways to mod out GDM or possible alternatives
[22:27] <JoeR1> does anyone have ubuntu-tweak source code, the site appears to be down
[22:29] <JoeR1> Nevermind, I suspect I have found a solution
[22:30] <knome> off for today
[22:30] <knome> good night
[23:36] <xubuntu926> hola
[23:37] <xubuntu926> hello


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[00:05] <NYYankees> (FOR TONIGHT ONLY) I SWEAR
[00:05] <NYYankees> STARTING NOW!!!!!!!!!!  I don't think that was why you were being ignored.
[11:37] <jacklk> Why was I kicked from #ubuntu?
[11:37] <k1l> jacklk: you were ban evading
[11:38] <jacklk> Really? It's been a week, my bad should have expired.
[11:38] <k1l> you were told to come here after january the 28th to discuss your ban again.
[11:38] <jacklk> Oh, okay.  I want you to know that this channel is publicly logged. You can PM me if you prefer.
[15:27] <sote> still learning IRC
[15:27] <IdleOne> !logs
[15:28] <IdleOne> Anything you say in here will end up in the wild. Just wanted you to know that
[15:28] <sote> thankyou :)
[15:35] <sote> so how do I close this window ?
[15:36] <IdleOne> depends on the client you are using
[15:36] <k1l_> type "/part" or "/wc" or press the right mouse button and choose close. that depends on your client
[15:36] <IdleOne> sote: what application are you using to connect to IRC?
[15:37] <sote> XChat-Gnome
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[20:51] <k1l_> !away > dankest


[01:16] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: three more commits and a new build is on the way.
[01:17] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: the desktop file list is no longer needed. There is an internal list and it is right at the top of the file.
[01:19] <OvenWerks> There is a second variable right under that with the total number of packages listed. It has to match the list.
[01:20] <OvenWerks> There is now a logout/in warning after any install. not the best solution, a test would be better maybe later.
[01:22] <OvenWerks> And of course window size
[01:22] <OvenWerks> I also change the title in the title bar
[01:25] <OvenWerks> Just waiting for publishing to happen.
[01:26] <OvenWerks> I am not sure if it just took time for my first commit to go through or if the second one pushed the first through...
[01:27] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: let me know how it works.
[01:27] <OvenWerks> Seems ok here
[01:42] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Looks good here too.
[01:51] <OvenWerks> fixed -controls as well
[01:51] <Eickmeyer> Controls looks good, but I don't know what I'm looking for that was fixed.
[01:51] <OvenWerks> controls hasn't built yet
[01:52] <Eickmeyer> Oh.
[01:52] <OvenWerks> controls shold not be able to add root to the audio group :)
[01:52] <Eickmeyer> Oh, gotcha.
[02:07]  * OvenWerks just sent email to the school that his son would be off for the "west" of the week
[02:08] <OvenWerks> must be having an Elmer Fudd momment
[02:11] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: anyway, -controls is published
[02:17] <Eickmeyer> Wascawwy wabbit.
[02:22]  * OvenWerks gets to install firefox and a new kernel so he can test -controls...
[02:24] <OvenWerks> seems wallpapers takes a while too
[02:24] <Eickmeyer> That's because we have a lot of 'em.
[02:25] <Eickmeyer> Part of the reason I've held-off on doing a wallpaper contest this time around.
[02:31] <OvenWerks> Maybe time to split off an old?
[02:31] <OvenWerks> or just remove everything pre last lts?
[02:32] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that might be the way to go. Move those packages into a ubuntustudio-wallpaper-legacy package.
[02:33] <Eickmeyer> Would be trivial to do.
[02:33] <Eickmeyer> Or not. Would have to redo some symlinks.
[02:34] <Eickmeyer> It can be done.
[02:34] <OvenWerks> keeping a legacy around makes the artists feel better
[02:34] <Eickmeyer> Exactly.
[03:03] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: -controls works with pkexec root does not get added, a user I just added does.
[03:04] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Perfect.
[03:04] <OvenWerks> if run without pkexec the if line fails which is fine... the user still doesn't get added
[03:04] <OvenWerks> when talking about run without pkexec I mean ubuntustudio-system
[03:05] <OvenWerks> if run with sudo the group is not set for anyone
[03:05] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, I figured. Sounds like the right result.
[03:05] <OvenWerks> including root
[18:31] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: just saw your closure on the bug about cd size. You could have mentioned that any flavour that fits on a cd plus installer already does that. I also think mini.iso allows to install any flavour (or used to) from a smaller than cd size (mini cd)
[18:31] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: That's correct.
[18:32] <Eickmeyer> At the time of the bug report, the goal for every flavor was to fit onto a CD. Since then, that policy is now DVD.
[18:33] <OvenWerks> I think Studio broke the cd size limit as much as two years before anyone else.
[18:35] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that's probably true. I know that the goal was to get it back down-to-size, but that's a moot point now.
[18:36] <Eickmeyer> Kaj filed that bug, so I'm sure he is or was well aware
[18:36] <OvenWerks> I mean the point when Studio made a decision that 700m was just not going to work and would officially be ~2G
[18:36] <Eickmeyer> Gotcha.
[18:36] <OvenWerks> We did that early.
[18:36] <Eickmeyer> Well, considering everything that's on it, you had to.
[18:37] <OvenWerks> I think Kaj had an idea to have a second iso for network install
[18:37] <Eickmeyer> Ah, I see.
[18:38] <Eickmeyer> No longer necessary considering the proliferation of USB drives.
[18:39] <OvenWerks> right, and it would not save DL time either
[23:21] <Eickmeyer> I just discoverd that jack-mixer is in the seed but not in the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage.
[23:55] <krytarik> Eickmeyer: "This optional package adds Ubuntu Branding to official Ubuntu flavors." - hmmm.. :>


[02:27] <Kumool> anyway to set env vars?
[02:32] <Kumool> I guess the real question is, how to get lightdm to set env-vars
[02:40] <Kumool> found it! ~/.xprofile
[20:38] <justtesting> anyone using QUASSEL iRC here ?
[22:12] <Eickmeyer> justtesting: I use Quassel, You still here?
[22:13] <justtesting> am
[22:13] <Eickmeyer> Cool. What's your issue?
[22:13] <justtesting> why do you use it over hex ?
[22:13] <justtesting> just finding it different to use
[22:13] <justtesting>  (the fact you can't bookmark rooms etc)
[22:14] <Eickmeyer> Because I have my quassel core on a remote server that's always on, and I can simply connect to that. Essentially, it keeps me signed-in all the time and I can access it anywhere from the quasel client, and quasseldroid on my phone.
[22:14] <JackFrost> justtesting: Quassel doesn't generally have the most features or best support for some IRC features, but what it does have is the client/core concept.  The core runs on some server somewhere, then you can connect with quassel on the desktop or phone and have all the scrollback.
[22:15] <JackFrost> Think of it like ZNC but more integrated.
[22:15] <Eickmeyer> I also have no need to bookmark rooms since, if I leave a room, it keeps the room in the sidebar. It doesn't actually delete the room unless I specifically ask it to.
[22:18] <gnrp> JackFrost: Is Quassel much better than weechat, or how do they compare?
[22:19] <JackFrost> gnrp: You can run weechat in tmux or screen, so different way to keep scrollback.  weechat has scripting support and generally better IRCv3 support, but again cli vs gui client.
[22:19] <justtesting> ah, so basically covering your fomo
[22:34] <gnrp> JackFrost: There is a Qt weechat gui afaik. I just thought you might have compared them already
[22:34] <JackFrost> gnrp: Heh, nah.  I don't use weechat or quassel. :)
[22:54] <justtesting> eickmeyer - you don't have to bookmark rooms, but what if you want to try a different server, it saves them ?
[22:54] <justtesting> (it saves the existing rooms?)
[22:54] <Eickmeyer> justtesting: Yep.
[22:54] <Eickmeyer> Right now, I'm logged-in to about 4 different servers.
[22:56] <justtesting> aha
[22:56] <justtesting> anything you recommend ?
[23:34] <Eickmeyer> justtesting: Not at this time. I'm on them mostly out of necessity.


[05:27] <Kilos> hellooooo africa
[05:29] <elacheche_anis> Hello Africa :D
[05:30] <Kilos> you wet the bed elacheche_anis ?
[05:30] <Kilos> hee hee
[09:09] <elacheche> Hey again! Oh Kilos ! No x) It's Ramadhan, I wake up by 2 am to eat before fasting, then I have some sleep between 6am and 7:30am then I go work :)
[09:09] <Kilos> aha


[10:51] <LoverBoyV> I need help verifying my gpg key
[10:52] <wgrant> LoverBoyV: What's the issue?
[10:53] <LoverBoyV> When i go to decrypt the message in thunderbird it fails to decrypt my email
[10:54] <wgrant> What happens if you try it on the command line?
[10:54] <LoverBoyV> i havent tried
[10:54] <LoverBoyV> well i tried but i couldnt figure it out
[10:55] <wgrant> Save the message source to a file, run 'gpg < WHATEVERFILE', and enter your passphrase when prompted.
[10:56] <LoverBoyV> how do i save it to a source file?
[10:57] <wgrant> Perhaps try opening the message and using 'File > Save as...', but I haven't used Thunderbird for a long time.
[10:59] <LoverBoyV> what do i save it as?
[12:59] <skx> I would like to host a few packages (custom builds of kernel, ekg...) in a launchpad repo, but without using launchpad's build service or hosting the code (it's available anyway) -- can I do that with launchpad?
[12:59] <skx> just copy the packages over?
[13:03] <geser> skx: you mean uploading already build debs?
[13:03] <skx> basically
[13:03] <skx> (that is: yes)
[13:06] <geser> no that's not possible, you need to upload the source package and let LP build it to ensure that the debs and the source package match
[13:07] <skx> ok, thanks
[13:08] <skx> and you can do it with kernels too?
[13:09] <wgrant> Launchpad builds all the packages in Ubuntu.
[13:09] <skx> ok, thanks
[13:09] <wgrant> So if it can be built in Ubuntu, it can be built by Launchpad.
[15:05] <vivid> i am trying to upload a package to one of my ppa's, but the orig.tar.gz stops with 1KB to go and just sits there....this never happened in the past, though this is a new machine/install...am i forgetting something?
[16:56] <jpds> vivid: No.
[16:56] <vivid> ? any idea why its hanging on the last kB of the orig?
[16:58] <jpds> vivid: It's a bug in Zope's FTPd.
[16:58] <vivid> so, what do i need to do to fix it, wasnt happening the last time i pushed new packages..about a week ago
[17:00] <jpds> vivid: bug #251685
[17:02] <jpds> vivid: As an alternative, you can in dput.cf set the method to sftp and login = <your LP account>.


[07:49] <bootlkjkgf> mornin' All
[08:20] <larryone> mourne
[08:22] <slashbel> good morning
[08:22] <larryone> hi tom
[08:22] <slashbel> how's things?
[08:23] <larryone> grand
[08:23] <larryone> nice time in the balkins?
[08:24] <slashbel> aye, it was good fun and interesting
[08:24] <slashbel> 4,300km in total, 8 countries
[08:33] <larryone> ebel, got gps traces of all of it? =0P
[08:33] <larryone> I cant wait to see what kind of gps traces I manage to collect in south america
[08:34] <slashbel> aye, we have almost all of the GPS traces… i think his battery ran out when we were riding from Dubrovnik to the bay of Kotor
[08:36] <larryone> I've seen my parents pictures of Dubrovnik
[08:36] <larryone> is it as amazing as the pictures look?
[08:37] <slashbel> we didn't stop long to look around Dubrovnik, but we did spend a good bit of time in Mostar
[08:37] <slashbel> did you see the videos?
[08:38] <larryone> not yet
[08:38] <larryone> work been too busy =0(
[08:38] <slashbel> http://www.youtube.com/slashtomeu « we were doing video checkins along the way
[08:38] <larryone> epic
[08:38] <larryone> will have a lookk later
[08:38] <slashbel> have to love that free WiFi is available almost everywhere we go
[08:39] <slashbel> we used the forward-facing camera on my galaxy S3 to record them
[08:39] <larryone> right now some french guys want to try to figure out why they cant get their french video files from their french servers to their french set top boxes
[08:40] <larryone> i hate set top boxes
[08:40] <larryone> "can you send us the results of `curl -I http://bla.com.....`  ??"
[08:40] <larryone> "no, we dont have a command line"
[08:41] <slashbel> oh dear
[08:43] <larryone> this is likely to take all day
[08:43] <larryone> will get cracking
[08:43] <larryone> ttyl
[08:43] <slashbel> enjoy, take care