[00:00] <loa> compdoc, he have empty /etc/resolv.conf
[00:00] <Magyarok> and said try sudo apt-get update, so I did. Now it wont update either
[00:00] <k1l_> !webmin | Magyarok
[00:01] <k1l_> so the mistake was to install webmin in the first place
[00:01] <Magyarok> well I did not know this, im new here.
[00:01] <Magyarok> I dont know how to fix it.
[00:02] <TauNeutrino> hello
[00:02] <TauNeutrino> another question
[00:02] <TauNeutrino> is it possible to bundle two umts usb sticks??
[00:02] <Magyarok> compdoc, can you help me?
[00:03] <bekks> TauNeutrino: yes, but as already been clued in #ubuntu-de - the answers stay the same.
[00:03] <compdoc> Magyarok, I dont use webmin, but ppl on the mailing list seem to think webmin is ok. You might try asking there. we might be able to help with dns, if thats the only issue
[00:04] <Magyarok> I think thats the only issue
[00:04] <cross20> indo here
[00:05] <bekks> Magyarok: then which kind of dns issue do you have?
[00:05] <compdoc> Magyarok, can you pastebin  /etc/resolv.conf     but change personal info, if any?
[00:05] <colton__> anyone recommend hacking book using linux?
[00:05] <colton__> anyone recommend hacking book using linux?
[00:06] <k1l_> colton__: no hacking and illegal stuff in here
[00:06] <e10byagrue> colton__: what do you mean by "hacking"?
[00:06] <TauNeutrino> :) aha
[00:06] <TauNeutrino> hm
[00:06] <TauNeutrino> and what answer? yes
[00:07] <Magyarok> compdoc, pastebin.com/EwhheGKV
[00:07] <Magyarok> bekks, I dont know
[00:07] <bekks> Magyarok: without a detailed error description, it is impossible to help you...
[00:08] <Magyarok> I just installed ubuntu server about 15 minutes ago, I dont know how to find out
[00:08]  * ThalinVien is back from [] - 383544h:8m:33s away
[00:08] <bekks> Magyarok: Then whats happening? How do you know you have a DNS issue?
[00:08] <Magyarok> apparently my resolv.conf is empty?
[00:08] <Magyarok> also I cant update
[00:09] <colton__> Does anyone know where is network interface files for ubuntu? Ive used centos and fedora so far so I cannot located /etc/sysconfig/network-interfaces/ in ubuntu
[00:09] <bekks> !details | Magyarok
[00:09] <bekks> colton__: what are you going to do?
[00:09] <TauNeutrino> ?
[00:09] <k1l_> !interfaces | colton__
[00:09] <k1l_> !network | colton__
[00:10] <Magyarok> bekks:Ubuntu server 12.04.3 ...... sudo apt-get update wont work
[00:10] <k1l_> hmm, that triggers are not what i wanted. /etc/network/interfaces is it in ubuntu colton__
[00:10] <colton__> thank you!
[00:10] <bekks> Magyarok: why not? whats happening when doing what? full output in a pastebin please.
[00:12] <Magyarok> bekks:http://pastebin.com/qntpW1iP
[00:12] <Magyarok> bekks:  also, my /ect/resolv.conf is empty
[00:12] <bekks> Magyarok: Then whats your Ubuntu version?
[00:13] <Magyarok> 12.04.3
[00:14] <Magyarok> bekks: also when I ping, unknown host comes up
[00:14] <bekks> Magyarok: then whats the output of: sudo ifconfig -a; sudo netstat -rn; cat /etc/resolv.conf;
[00:14] <bekks> Magyarok: Put it into a pastebin, again
[00:17] <Magyarok> bekks:pastebin.com/XmFq1X3r
[00:17] <loa> bekks, you have super power teaching people make good question.
[00:17] <loa> s
[00:19] <bekks> Magyarok: Is this a vm?
[00:19] <Magyarok> Nope.
[00:19] <Magyarok> By vm meaning virtual machine?
[00:20] <bekks> Magyarok: yes.
[00:20] <bekks> Magyarok: How did you setup the IP?
[00:20] <Magyarok> Then no its a physical desktop.
[00:21] <Magyarok> Ioa helped me with that
[00:21] <loa> show him your /etc/network/interfaces
[00:21] <loa> http://pastebin.com/rJE8x9Ln
[00:21] <bekks> loa: good point
[00:22] <bekks> Magyarok: Whats your /etc/network/interfaces then?
[00:22] <Magyarok> now i cant connect to it with SSH
[00:23] <bekks> Magyarok: So what did you do meanwhile?
[00:23] <Magyarok> Nothing
[00:23] <compdoc> webmin
[00:23] <loa> Magyarok, start your eth0
[00:23] <loa> sudo if-up eth0
[00:23] <loa> then try ssh again
[00:23] <bekks> Magyarok: "nothing" will not cause your ssh to be not working.
[00:24] <Magyarok> well I did nothing....
[00:24] <loa> Magyarok, you don't restart machine?
[00:24] <k1l_> Magyarok: you installed noobish software that is known for causing alot of problems
[00:24] <DarkAceLaptop> alot is not a word
[00:24] <loa> i forgot add auto eth0 in his config
[00:24] <loa> so maybe it is problem
[00:24] <bekks> loa: yes it is.
[00:24] <loa> after restart eth0 don't start
[00:25] <Magyarok> It said sudo if-up eth0 command not found
[00:25] <TJ-> Magyarok: "ifup"
[00:26] <Magyarok> it says eth0 is already configured
[00:27] <Magyarok> bekks:
[00:28] <Magyarok> bekks:http://pastebin.com/rJE8x9Ln
[00:28] <Magyarok> k1l_:could you help me fix it please?
[00:29] <Xerofyte> Hello All. Can Anyone please let me know how to Install plasma wallpaper addon in KDE 4.11. I Installed it on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:32] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: What have you tried already?
[00:32] <Magyarok> bekks:you still here?
[00:33] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: i tried  sudo apt-get install plasma-wallpaper-addon
[00:33] <Magyarok> ?
[00:34] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: And you're saying that worked, but it isn't displaying with KDE?
[00:34] <Dr_Willis_> !info plasma-wallpaper-addon
[00:34] <Dr_Willis_> plasma-wallpapers-addons - additional wallpaper plugins for Plasma
[00:34] <loa> Magyarok, echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee > /etc/resolv.conf
[00:35] <loa> Magyarok, you can use sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[00:35] <loa> but it is very ditry solution
[00:35] <loa> VERY VERY
[00:35] <Dr_Willis_> !resolv.conf
[00:35] <Magyarok> I would rather fix it
[00:35] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: I guess its not. I want to have the Live Wallpapers. I googled for it and I found someone said to get plasma wallpaper addon
[00:36] <TJ-> Magyarok: I never saw your original problem description, so in the dark here
[00:36] <Xerofyte> Dr_Willis: yes as the name ADDON means additional plugins
[00:37] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: So what happend when you did "apt-get install..."? Any error messages?
[00:37] <Magyarok> TJ-:I am having all kinds of problems with dns, my resolv.conf is empty, and my /etc/network/interfaces is messed up
[00:38] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Yes brother.. "Unable to locate package plasma-wallpaper-addon"
[00:38] <Magyarok> TJ-:Can I PM you about it?
[00:39] <TJ-> Magyarok: Best to keep it in channel, so others can participate.
[00:39] <Magyarok> They did, but they left me hanging
[00:40] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Let me be more specific, I want to have the DreamDesktop Live wallpapers
[00:40] <Magyarok> Ive been trying to fix this for the past hour
[00:41] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: Maybe it's called "plasma-wallpapers-addons"? Did you make a typo?
[00:41] <loa> I think if you read this carefully you will not have questions at all.
[00:41] <loa> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[00:41] <loa> and maybe man network
[00:41] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Yes i did.. Same error message as above.
[00:42] <loa> and maybe do clean installation of ubuntu, becouse maybe webmin messed all your system.
[00:43] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: What about if you type "apt-cache show plasma-wallpapers-addons"
[00:43] <TJ-> Magyarok: /etc/resolv.conf should be created by resolvconf automatically based on scripts in /etc/resolvconf/update{-libc,}.d/  . If you're using NetworkManager it'll expect to use dnsmasq to provide DNS service, via <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:43] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Lemme Try this
[00:44] <TJ-> oh, he's gone!
[00:45] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: I got a Bunch of Lines.. Should I Pastebin it..?
[00:46] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: No, was just wondering if it would list info about the package or if it would say it could not locate the package.
[00:46] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: I guess it actually located it and Its kdeplasma-addons. Am i Right?
[00:47] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: Sounds like it.
[00:48] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Let me try it and get back.
[00:48] <niceman20> Hi all
[00:49] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: ok
[00:51] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: The Installation is on the go. Just wanted to Know one thing. How to Delete or remove all those unnecessary packages/PPAs/Repos which are already installed and are consuming disk space.
[00:51] <bekks> Xerofyte: Install the minimal iso - and just install what you want. By default, there are no PPA used.
[00:52] <Xerofyte> bekks: Ok. Suppose when we do "sudo apt-get install XYZ" it just installs what we want. No setup files are stored in the Disk. Right.?
[00:53] <bekks> Xerofyte: there is nothing like "setup files". Packages (.deb) are stored on disk as needed, since they are "extracted" for installing a specific package. you can use apt-get to remove them after installing a package.
[00:54] <Xerofyte> bekks: thanks for the info Bro.
[00:56] <hoodigoodi> I'm trying to set up dual boot on laptop with ubuntu cd on pc with win7. Was going fine, from cd, following instructions as per here www.tinyurl.com/cglyb3e. Created the free space but then decided i got the size wrong. I could not resize from the cd so went back and expanded the drive in windows to get back to scratch but now when from the cd I try to create free space again, it tells me 'an error occurred while writing the the chan
[00:56] <lduros> I'm trying to run: echo "150" > /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/brightness from my .profile at startup
[00:56] <lduros> obviously this isn't working as is, and when in the terminal i have to first run "sudo -i"
[00:56] <lduros> to get su privileges before I can run it. Even running it as sudo [echo command] won't work
[00:57] <pfifo> !es | pfifo
[00:59] <MixX> lduruos maybe try doing a chmod on the file first
[00:59] <Xerofyte> !sudo | Xerofyte
[01:00] <loa> lduros, using sudo you you can do this echo "150" | tee > /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/brightness
[01:00] <pfifo> lduros: you need to use tee 'echo "150" | sudo tee /path/to/whatever' but you may need to add the NOPASSWD option to your sudoers
[01:00] <loa> pfifo, lol
[01:00] <bekks> lduros: dont listen to him, it wont work.
[01:01] <lduros> to him, or to them?
[01:01] <bekks> lduros: putting tee into sudoers will allow ALL users to to randomly put stuff into files.
[01:01] <lduros> ok
[01:01] <lduros> so is there a way to do this?
[01:01] <loa> bekks, who said add tee to sudoers :)
[01:02] <bekks> lduros: use /etc/rc.local to issue your command: echo "this" > /this/file
[01:02] <loa> just make script for that and add to sudoers.
[01:02] <bekks> ouch.
[01:02] <pfifo> loa: I said add NOPASSWD for your user not to tee for all users
[01:02] <bekks> the user may edit random stuff in that script and will be allowed to execute it as root.
[01:03] <darkpassenger> How can i load a kernel image manually from grub command line ? whsts the command
[01:03] <bekks> pfifo: NOPASSWD for tee is a huge security risk.
[01:03] <pfifo> bekks: no your misunderstanding, thats not what im saying
[01:03] <bwayne> NOPASSWD for a single user for a single command is FINE.
[01:04] <sh4kaunt0ld> can some one help me??
[01:04] <bekks> pfifo: you did. since "tee" is the command requiring sudo privileges.
[01:04] <bekks> bwayne: NOT for a script. The user may issue harmfull commands and they will be executed using sudo.
[01:04] <pfifo> bekks im not saying to add nopasswd to ALL users, ONLY to the one user
[01:04] <bekks> pfifo: Even ONE user may compromise the system.
[01:04] <loa> bwayne, maybe for very special bash script it is, but not for tee.
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys anyone know what i can do i am using the ath9k driver for wifi, and the new kernal causes a lazy driver....i get packet loss, and my wifi drops my connection while on other network it works fine, and on other machines it works flawlessly.
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> this never used to happen
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> just recently, i dont knwo what i do i tried everything that was suggested on the forums
[01:05] <pfifo> bekks: im pretty sure he can already compromise his system if thats what he wanted :)
[01:05] <sh4kaunt0ld>  am trying to install Afla wifi adapter on a Debian based Distro but cant get it working ,plz help?+
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> it looks like alot of people are having the same issues as me....but i dont know what the fix is, because i tried everything on the forums and still
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> when i idle my wifi drops my conncetion
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> or when im downloading big files
[01:06] <bekks> pfifo: that may apply - but it does not justify to knowingly ignore basic security guidelines.
[01:06] <loa> Psil0Cybin, maybe it is some kind of powersave?
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> i turned off the power save, and still nothing
[01:06] <bwayne> bekks: yeah. the USER can issue harmful commands at any time. duh
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> i followed the guide to do it
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> because some people said that was the problem
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> but it did not work :( loa
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> i have to consatntly run
[01:07] <darkpassenger> is there a way to load a particular kernel with grub what is the command ?
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> sudo service network-manager restart
[01:07] <bekks> bwayne: then why dont you work as root all the time? thats what you are saying basically.
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> to get it connected again and working
[01:07] <pfifo> bekks, ok point taken. I can understand your point of view
[01:07] <qin> Psil0Cybin: set txpower?
[01:08] <bwayne> bekks: that's idiotic. you're idiotic.
[01:08] <loa> darkpassenger, recovery mode in grub menu?
[01:08] <bekks> bwayne: Dont get personal. Watch your language. Ignore set.
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> qin: i did options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 within the wifi config file that was suggested on forum and also sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[01:09] <bekks> pfifo: I already offered a secure alternative onto the solution of his distinct problem as well.
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> it says Power Management: off
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> when i run iwconfig wlan0 qin
[01:10] <bekks> !enter | Psil0Cybin
[01:11] <pfifo> bekks: rc.local is a great place for running things a root, Im assuming here that he needed this in his profile for whatever reason
[01:11] <bekks> pfifo: yeah, thats the way to go for his problem.
[01:12] <qin> Psil0Cybin: did you try to keep connection alive with: while [ 1]; do ping -c 3; sleep 360; done; ??
[01:12] <bekks> pfifo: setting the power management whatever of his display doesnt require user privs, but root ones.
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> yes if im on the comptuer or downloading a torrent, the connection is kept alive
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> but the second i stop pinging, i get disconnected after a few seconds or minutes
[01:12] <qin> Psil0Cybin: ping something
[01:12] <bekks> pfifo: that will cause it to be in effect for all users staring at the display.
[01:12] <hoodigoodi> Has anyone come across this?  'an error occurred while writing the the change to the storage devices. the operation has been aborted' any ideas? I'm trying to set up dual boot on laptop with ubuntu cd on pc with win7. Was going fine, from cd, following instructions as per here www.tinyurl.com/cglyb3e. Created the free space but then decided i got the size wrong. I could not resize from the cd so went back and expanded the drive in wi
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> qin: yes but i dont always want to be pinging and wasting packets if i can find a way to fix this issue...from what i am reading online it is the kernal version that is causing this rpboelm, like alot of people are having this problem but no ones advice, or own solution
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> helps me
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> i also am worried about building the driver from source because i want it to be updated..through the repositories, instead of keeping an eye on it.
[01:14] <qin> Psil0Cybin: ping router?
[01:14] <Psil0Cybin> i guess but you think thats my only solution?
[01:14] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: you can always buy another wifi card with better linux support
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> qin: do you think this will get fixed, or should i build from source? or use a older kernal version?
[01:15] <vastkahuna> How do I check if my wi-fi network is set to public or home?
[01:16] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: yea i could i just wanted to use the one in my laptop and save some money
[01:16] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[01:16] <loa> Psil0Cybin, i will use older and stable for your case kernel.
[01:18] <darkpassenger> loa, yeah
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> okay i guess
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> this just stinks
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> it used tow ork two weeks ago
[01:20] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: you should still have the kernel you were using from before, unless you did a fresh install
[01:21] <loa> question in time, how i can delete old kernels if current is ok?
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> yea i do
[01:21] <loa> what is ubuntu way?
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> but is it safe to use older kernals?
[01:22] <pfifo> loa: dpkg -P <package name> (something like linux-image-3.2.1337.666)
[01:22] <loa> Psil0Cybin, you can check security advisories for you old kernel and decide is it safe for you or not.
[01:22] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: I generally use what works, but they did update the kernel for a reason
[01:23] <qin> loa: sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:23] <loa> qin, two times? or you misstyped?
[01:25] <pfifo> loa: autoremove doesnt remove old kernels
[01:26] <loa> pfifo, it is hard remove by hands.
[01:26] <loa> i made dpkg -l | grep kernel and see many different crap
[01:26] <loa> for example old nvidia modules
[01:26] <loa> for older kernels
[01:27] <pfifo> loa: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[01:27] <qin> loa: yeah, autoclean is second, mostly for debs removal
[01:28] <pfifo> loa: really theres no reason to remove the old kernels, maybe for freeing up disk space
[01:29] <qin> pfifo: there is not much reason to keep them either
[01:29] <tylertwo> pfifo: They take up a lot of space, and there's a lot of them. I approve of removing them.
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo and qin so do you guys think i should just stick to the old kernals? or what should i do, what would you guys do? would you install the driver from source? or.....i just hate that it worked two weeks ago and now is having problems, it was so stable before :( i didnt think this could happen again, such a stinker.
[01:30] <qin> loa: It was approved, remove them! ;)
[01:30] <tylertwo> :p
[01:30] <loa> qin, if i do autoremove i will see what it want remove?
[01:30] <loa> it will ask me for Y?)
[01:30] <qin> loa: yes, just read before pressing "Y"
[01:30] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: I would #1 file a bug on launchpad.net and #2 revert back to a working setup
[01:31] <loa> always was scary all autoremove options
[01:31] <qin> loa: autoremove is very safe in apt, in most cases...
[01:31] <loa> qin, i checked what it want remove.
[01:31] <loa> there no kernels packages.
[01:32] <loa> just different crap what i installed long time ago.
[01:32] <pfifo> loa: autoremove doesnt remove old kernels
[01:32] <loa> pfifo, it was checked.
[01:34] <pfifo> what was checked?
[01:34] <qin> loa: pfifo is right, autoremove was wrong
[01:34] <loa> pfifo, autoremove and you are right.
[01:35] <tylertwo> loa: You can remove at least part of the kernels manually in /lib/modules/. Just be careful not to delete your current kernel.
[01:35] <pfifo> loa: you have to purge it yourself with 'dpkg -P linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>' or 'apt-get purge linux-image <IP_ADDRESS>'
[01:36] <loa> i think it is really save all as it is.
[01:36] <loa> really better.
[01:41] <Hungary> Is their a alternative program to webmin?
[01:45] <pfifo> Hungary: google lead me to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103421
[01:45] <tylertwo> pfifo: Good call on the apt-get command for removing old kernels. I'm using that now to get rid of some of mine now.
[01:47] <wylde> !webmin
[01:47] <marcela> hola
[01:47] <wylde> !info zentyal
[01:47] <wylde> hmm
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: now that i have reverted back to a working setup, and filed a report with launch, what do i do now just wait?
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> for a fix, or should i do something proactive?
[01:49] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: keep an eye on your bug report and see what happens
[01:49] <energizer1> I need help getting pipelight working. Anyone?
[01:50] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: it will probabally get merged or marked as a duplicate, I should have told you to search for and subscribe to an existing bug, and to click 'this affects me' on it
[01:51] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: thats what i ended up doing
[01:51] <Psil0Cybin> added also affects me here
[01:51] <Psil0Cybin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/945379
[01:51]  * pfifo subscribes
[01:53] <darkpassenger2> hwo can i change the kernel loaded at boot time ? where is ths file in 13.04 ? I have to edit a file , right ?
[01:54] <hoodigoodi> new to this, went to close page and a box comes up saying i have unread messages but where are they?
[01:54] <loa> darkpassenger, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[01:55] <pfifo> darkpassenger2: you have to create an entry for it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom and then run 'update-grub' to have it automatically selected, edit /etc/defaults/grub and change the default option
[01:55] <pfifo> loa: no, thats not supported
[02:01] <kthxdriveby> darkpassenger2: If you want to load an older kernel just once, you can hold down shift or ctrl (I forget which) while grub starts.
[02:01] <tylertwo> darkpassenger2: I think it's shift
[02:03] <darkpassenger2> pfifo: do I have to edit etc/grub.d/40_custom first ,
[02:04] <hoodigoodi> where are my unread messages it says I have when i go to close? newbie
[02:06] <tylertwo> hoodigoodi: What page did you try to close?
[02:07] <hoodigoodi> pidgin
[02:07] <hoodigoodi> #ubuntu
[02:08] <tylertwo> hoodigoodi: I'm not familiar with pidgin.. prolly it's fine to close it. Maybe someone /msged you and it's open on another tab or something?
[02:09] <hoodigoodi> can't see any tabs....? what do you use?
[02:09] <tylertwo> hoodigoodi: irssi, for irc
[02:10] <talkyattorney> "Monitor of built-in analog stereo" Seems to record way out of sync, as in, I can change the tempoby 10% and the pitch will be right, but the audio seems to be faster than it should. any ideas?
[02:11] <hoodigoodi> irssi..is that good?
[02:11] <sec_> anyone try install linux dualboot with windows 8.1 preinstalled?
[02:12] <tylertwo> hoodigoodi: It's ok. I'm pretty new to it.
[02:13] <zykotick9> hoodigoodi: xchat is a popular gui client
[02:13] <hoodigoodi> sec_: Interesting  question ..i asked this before, the link might be useful? Has anyone come across this?  'an error occurred while writing the the change to the storage devices. the operation has been aborted' any ideas? I'm trying to set up dual boot on laptop with ubuntu cd on pc with win7. Was going fine, from cd, following instructions as per here www.tinyurl.com/cglyb3e. Created the free space but then decided i got the size wr
[02:14] <hoodigoodi> ok, seems i didn't get that right? how do i direct a message at someone in particular?
[02:16] <sec_> hoodigoodi: ok thanks.
[02:20] <hoodigoodi> sec_: i'm having that partition error issue..just make sure you don't change your mind about the partition size to reserve for windows...get it right the first time at it should work fine.
[02:21] <hoodigoodi> anyone use pidgin?
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> lots of people do ;)
[02:23] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: so when I go to close it it says I have unread messages but...where are they?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> no idea. - i dont  use it.  ;P
[02:27] <hoodigoodi> HAHA!
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> or if i do its just for irc. I never get msgs in any of the other services from anyone.. No friends. ;P
[02:28] <hoodigoodi> what do you use?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> I basically waste all day on IRC. using weechat.
[02:28] <hoodigoodi> damn
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Sometimes i get a facebook message. but thats only notifieing me by my android phone.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> Not like i ever get imporntant facebook messages.
[02:29] <hoodigoodi> damn dude..what's an important message?
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> Never used pidgin but I see an option to mark messages as read and if not a popup happens
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> I see pidgin info here. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=unread+messages+pidgin&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=BNZMUvT0IqjGiwLnhIC4Dw
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> hoodigoodi:  anything more imporntant then 'bubba has watered your crops... bob has posted another useless link.... phil pokes you..'
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> anything imporntant - peole would just text my phone. ;)
[02:32] <hoodigoodi> haha..damn dude
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> plus theres the fact when i do use ubuntu and login to all these online accounts.. well.. i never really see it do anything. ;) guess im supposed to get fb messages, and gmail notifications, and stuff. but i dont see any messages
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> so the whole 'social' part of Ubuntu - seems sort of just empty to me.
[02:34] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, thankfully ;)
[02:35] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: when i laugh i sound like a squeeze box because i've got the flu ....haha
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> same with the 'webapps' stuff - was a big thing in the blogs  when it came out.. dont actually see it do much
[02:36] <harushimo> is there a way to create usb flash drive? so I can install ubuntu on my desktop
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> harushimo:  doxens  of tools and ways to make a bootable flash from the iso files.
[02:37] <harushimo> I have the iso. I'm using OSX right now but this is for my desktop
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> harushimo:  pendrivelinux has tools for most os's out there. that have lots of features. theres the offical ubuntu disk creator tool. You could use 'dd'
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> id see wht the pendrivelinux site has for guides/tools for osx
[02:37] <harushimo> okay
[02:37] <harushimo> thanks
[02:38] <hoodigoodi> A squeeze box with a hole in it
[02:40] <hoodigoodi> Has anyone come across this?  'an error occurred while writing the the change to the storage devices. the operation has been aborted'  I'm trying to set up dual boot on laptop with ubuntu cd on pc with win7. Was going fine, from cd, following instructions as per here www.tinyurl.com/cglyb3e. Created the free space but then decided i got the size wrong. I could not resize from the cd so went back and expanded the drive in windows to g
[02:40] <wolfheart> Hi , can someone please tell me software for Ubuntu 13.04 for a Wisair Ltd. Olidata Wireless Multimedia Adapter please ?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> hoodigoodi:  that error was from windows resizeing the partitions?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> wolfheart:  wht does that device even do?
[02:42] <wolfheart> Dr_Willis :- it allows you to stream movies etc to your tv via wireless
[02:42] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: no..from the cd, trying to create available space for installation
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> wolfheart:  does it use Upnp or DLNA? or some other special service on the pc?
[02:42] <kingnick42> Hey guys - I've filed a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1234488 relating to a very unreliable wifi connection when wireless N is enabled. If anyone else has this problem feel free to confirm the bug report :)
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> hoodigoodi:  so the cd wont resize the windows partion? were you using gparted or the installer to resize?
[02:43] <wolfheart> Dr_Willis :- no idea sorry
[02:43] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: installer
[02:45] <rslarson> Good evening all!
[02:45] <rslarson> any one familiar with vsFTPd?
[02:46] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: it worked the first time but then after reclaiming the space in windows, that error occurred trying to recreate it from the cd
[02:47] <rslarson> I am trying to create a secure FTP site, and when I go to connect in filezilla it gives me this error: GnuTLS error -15: An unexpected TLS packet was received.
[02:47] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: silly of me but then i'm just a broken squeeze box right now
[02:47] <rslarson> When I go into the logs, I see this message whenever I try to connect: "SSL version: TLSv1/SSLv3, SSL cipher: AES256-GCM-SHA384, not reused, no cert"
[02:48] <rslarson> I've done my googling already and all solutions do not fix this issue
[02:48] <rslarson> where should I go from here?
[02:51] <rslarson> I am using ubuntu server 12.04
[02:53] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: gparted seemed a little ambitious at first but you think i could fix this error with it? There are already four primary partitions too
[03:02] <rslarson> ok I figured out that it will not allow the connections if chroot_local_users=true
[03:03] <rslarson> I want to limit users to their home directory when they connect via ftp
[03:03] <rslarson> is there a way around this?
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> hoodigoodi:  4 primary is thelimit for non-gpt disks.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> rslarson:  might be some settings with whatever ftp server you are using. in this day and age. its better to use ssh/sftp/scp and forget about ftp.
[03:14] <unicorn-lightnin> can anyone recommend a good text-to-speech engine for Firefox? I can't seem to find any for Firefox, only Chrome.. Is there another Ubuntu app I should use? OR?
[03:14] <unicorn-lightnin> or? *
[03:23] <KxTwo> wow dead room tonight
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: with 1600 users im sure its not dead :p
[03:24] <KxTwo> ha, perhaps quiet was the better choice
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: wake the dead with a nice question :p
[03:24] <KxTwo> Hey you know what, its a stretch but  I am using ubuntu server and its quiet in here now anyway so I will ask a question!
[03:25] <mini> hi everyone
[03:25] <KxTwo> I am running dokuwiki on my ubuntu server, everything runs fine but I am trying to use a statistics plugin that is giving me all srots of errors.  Perhaps its not the plugin but something with the server.  Here is an example of errors, I got these two when I updated the spelling on one of my pages: DB Error: could not set UTF-8 (Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'stats')
[03:25] <KxTwo> DB Error: INSERT DELAYED INTO stats_edits SET dt = NOW(), page = 'start', type = 'E', ip = '<IP_ADDRESS>', user = 'karl', session = 'uektmrm2c7frc22kuoo581hnb1', uid = '1380517486352-4740'
[03:26] <Guest95740> what do i need to do to identify my name i use here?
[03:26] <jrib> !register | Guest95740
[03:26] <KxTwo> ./msg nickserf identify "password"
[03:26] <KxTwo> nickserv*
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> !info dokuwiki
[03:27] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, if I had to guess it has nothing to do with dokuwiki and the plugin itself as those are pretty straight forward.  HOwever, I obviously cannot be sure.  I have the questioned posted in the #dokuwiki channel but that IS a dead channel with very little action the last 5 days.
[03:28] <Guest95740> is 13.10 good now?
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> !saucy | Guest95740
[03:28] <sumpygump> KxTwo: It looks like the problem is the user that is connecting to the db. It says access denied for ''@localhost
[03:29] <KxTwo> sumpygump, can you offer any advice on what I need to do to fix it?
[03:29] <sumpygump> When you set up docuwiki, did you ever edit a config file or somewhere enter the credentials to access the database?
[03:30] <sumpygump> Sorry, I don't know much about docuwiki
[03:30] <KxTwo> sumpygump, I ran the install script and then set permissions
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> perhaps the service needs configured to allow access from localhost, and the ip of the server
[03:30] <KxTwo> its ben a long time since I set it up
[03:32] <KxTwo> ok I literally just started reading about sql last ni ght and this, at least in part, has something to do with sql
[03:33] <KxTwo> ok at this poitn I think it has nothing to do with ubuntu server, sorry I brought it up, I was hoping.
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: https://forum.dokuwiki.org/post/38128
[03:34] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, I think I found it
[03:35] <KxTwo> I didnt RTFM, there are instructions saying you must create a msql database.  Obviously if there isnt one there theres no ay to access it
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: tutorial about your script: https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:statistics
[03:36] <KxTwo> thats what I was talking about
[03:37] <KxTwo> every other plugin just worked so I assumed and didn't read.  Could have fixed this days ago, so stupid.
[03:37] <jj1234> anyone know why dpkg-architecture -aarmhf would return: sh: 1: arm-linux-gnueabihf-: not found ???
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: no sweat, we are all here to learn new stuff
[03:38] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, might I recommend you play with your own dokuwiki.  In my opinion EVERYONE should have one.
[03:45] <KxTwo> crap this isnt working
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> !find arm-linux-gnueabihf
[03:46] <toothe> so, using wpa_supplicant/wpa_passphrase gets me online, but I would like to have my server automatically connect to the wifi when I boot it up. How do I do that?
[03:47] <toothe> i have settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:48] <jj1234> Dr_Willis, I have all those packages installed
[03:49] <jj1234> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libelf-dev libnewt-dev binutils-dev libdw-dev libgtk2.0-dev | gtk2-devel
[03:49] <jj1234> I can't get rid of that, though I have all the packages on the left installed
[03:49] <somsip> toothe: in /etc/network/interfaces, change (something like) manula wlan0 to auto wlan0
[03:50] <somsip> *manual
[03:56] <jj1234> ls
[03:56] <KxTwo> d
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> file not found...
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> ;^)
[03:57] <KxTwo> ok off topic again, but why are there channels that I can't send to?  I joined mysql and sql but neither allow me to send
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> !regiester
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, You registered with freenode?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> regiestered nick name needed to send to many  channels as an anti-spam procedure
[03:58] <KxTwo> yes and I am identified
[03:58] <KxTwo> let me double check maybe I forgot today
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> look for messages in the chat client windows as to why
[03:59] <KxTwo> there were none there Dr_Willis, it was just me being stupid, I thought I had identified today.  I usually join #c++ right away but since I didnt I must have forgotten
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, Your IRC client probably has a auto login.
[04:04] <unicorn-lightnin> what is the chat for saucy salamander?
[04:04] <zykotick9> unicorn-lightnin: #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <unicorn-lightnin> thakns
[04:06] <Xabster> Hi, I have some mouse issues: it appears as if my mouse randomly releases the button while I'm dragging windows and/or doing double clicks sometimes. It works when connected to a Windows PC with the logitech drivers that comes with it. Do you have any idea on how to solve this? I know logitech isn't linux friendly
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> ive rarely had any issues with logitech mice on linux. they are about all i use. :) unless i find razor on sale. ;)
[04:08] <Xabster> hmm
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> Xabster:  you might want to check the forums and askubuntu.com also to see if anyone else has reported a similer issue. It could be some quirk spefifi  to  your mouse or version of the kernel, or X.
[04:08] <dragonfly> Xabster, is there a model name or model number on your mouse?
[04:08] <Xabster> Okay, but listen to this symptom too:
[04:08] <cyntehl> What a nify little place
[04:09] <Xabster> When I right click the desktop a context menu opens. If I quickly left click outside of it it does not close... if I wait ~800 ms and then click, then it closes
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> theres also those 'acessability' options that sometimes gets turned on and cause issues when people dont relize they are on.
[04:09] <Xabster> maybe it's less than 800, but there's a delay in which i can't just click outside of the context menu to close it
[04:10] <Xabster> all universal access things are off
[04:10] <reisio> Xabster: laptop?
[04:10] <Xabster> no
[04:10] <sharkz> how about trying another mouses?
[04:10] <Xabster> high end pc
[04:10] <reisio> yes, try another mouse
[04:11] <sharkz> symptom still exists?
[04:11] <NastyNaz> I log in to root using ssh keys but I think there's also a password set. is there any way to disable the password?
[04:11] <Xabster> i'll try
[04:11] <reisio> NastyNaz: you can just disable ssh'ing in as root
[04:11] <NastyNaz> I want to SSH as root though
[04:11] <reisio> oh, opposite of what you want :)
[04:11] <reisio> NastyNaz: that's silly, but
[04:11] <NastyNaz> i dont want to have to type passwords
[04:11] <NastyNaz> basically just all ssh keys so no one can try bruteforcing
[04:11] <grimeton> NastyNaz: use the r* tools
[04:11] <reisio> NastyNaz: by default Ubuntu has no known root password, so you'd have to set one
[04:12] <NastyNaz> I set one ages ago
[04:12] <reisio> that's it
[04:12] <NastyNaz> how to I change it?
[04:12] <grimeton> NastyNaz: sudo su -
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> ssh configs by default may also block logging in diretly as root
[04:12] <reisio> same way you set it last time
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> dont use sudo su.,  use 'sudo -i' to get a root shell
[04:13] <NastyNaz> sudo passwd - that the prompt for the root password?
[04:13] <NastyNaz> im logged in as root now
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> passwd command will set the paswprd then
[04:13] <NastyNaz> ok cheers
[04:13] <NastyNaz> ill just set it to something stupidly long
[04:13] <reisio> smartly long you mean :)
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> i dont think you need to set a root password to use ssh keys.
[04:14] <Xabster> i misunderstood his question perhaps, but he's asking how he can log in via SSH to a root account without supplying a password, right?
[04:14] <NastyNaz> no
[04:14] <Xabster> ok
[04:14] <reisio> you did say you didn't want to type passwords
[04:14] <NastyNaz> I *already* connect through ssh and a 3000 bit key. problem is the root account also has a normal password which I want to change (to stop me getting bruteforced)
[04:15] <reisio> ah
[04:15] <reisio> yup, passwd
[04:15] <NastyNaz> so the only vulnerability is if they can get the actual ssh key
[04:15] <NastyNaz> cheers
[04:15] <reisio> you can also re-scramble it
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> you can disable the root password i belive and only ssh in via key
[04:15] <reisio> with um... I forget the command
[04:15] <reisio> probably a param for passwd
[04:15] <NastyNaz> Dr_Willis: I was looking for an option like that. do you know how?
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> NastyNaz:  nope. but i bet askubuntu.com does :) some option for passwd i think.
[04:16] <NastyNaz> it says 'sudo passwd -dl root' will disable the account but I don't know what 'disable' means. I dont want to try for fear of not being able to log in
[04:17] <reisio> it'd be pretty silly if it could do that
[04:18] <NastyNaz> I just set it to 256 char string
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> thats  why you have users with sudo rights
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> ssh has an option i thought where it can only use keys. not passwords
[04:20] <Wug> NastyNaz: "Disabled" means the account can't be logged into from a login prompt
[04:20] <NastyNaz> Wug: but keys still work right?
[04:20] <Wug> ubuntu defaults root to disabled
[04:20] <Wug> ssh keys?
[04:20] <NastyNaz> yeah
[04:20] <Wug> no, the account is unlogin-able
[04:20] <NastyNaz> ok that's not what I want
[04:20] <Wug> use sudo to access root powers
[04:20] <Wug> it's what it's there for
[04:21] <NastyNaz> then I need to remember a huge password
[04:21] <dragonfly> NastyNaz, it is an option in ssh config where you set that login must be by key and not password
[04:21] <Wug> you can configure sudo not to require a password
[04:21] <NastyNaz> if I log in as root using a ssh key I dont need to remember anything and it's secure
[04:21] <Wug> you can also set it to force you to use a specific program
[04:21] <dragonfly> NastyNaz, you can set your root password back to what it was before you forget it :)
[04:21] <NastyNaz> dragonfly: thanks
[04:22] <Wug> the general practice is to make another account (or just use your own), set it up not to need a password when sudoing your one specific thing, and then have it do that
[04:22] <Wug> using another account is good because you can safely disable all other sudo access, and let it do just its one specific thing without worrying about it doing anything else
[04:23] <NastyNaz> it will mess a lot of scripts up if I use a different account. the chance that someone can execute malicious code is low so I just do everything as root
[04:23] <NastyNaz> bigger problem is someone cracking the password
[04:24] <Wug> the little voice in my head is shouting "run away and dont look back"
[04:25] <dragonfly> NastyNaz, it's the authentication methods section....i'm looking for you
[04:25] <Wug> you shouldn't write programs that will break if you run them as different users anyway
[04:25] <grimeton> NastyNaz: disable password auth in the sshd_config and use keys
[04:25] <NastyNaz> dragonfly: got it
[04:25] <NastyNaz> dragonfly: need to add 'PasswordAuthentication no' to sshd_config
[04:25] <NastyNaz> dragonfly: thanks
[04:26] <NastyNaz> locate sshd_config
[04:26] <NastyNaz> oops
[04:26] <dragonfly> excellent, I knew there was a way to do it, but it's been awhile since I've needed to modify any of my configs....
[04:37] <Paulus68_1> which application is better to work with the IPOD amarok or gtkpod?
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> try them both - see what one you like better. ;)
[04:39] <reisio> Paulus68_1: they probably use the same library backend
[04:39] <reisio> so will only differ subtley
[04:40] <noah> Hey I'm running an Asus Zenbook Prime UX51VZ. When I plug an HDMI cord to my TV, nothing is happening. On my old laptop, it would automatically switch over. Here it does nothing. Anyone have any idea why?
[04:40] <noah> Ubuntu 13.04, btw
[04:41] <The_Ace> :noah have you tried google?
[04:41] <reisio> noah: lspci | grep -i vga
[04:41] <noah> The_Ace: Yes, a lot of it. Found nothing. Everything online says hdmi should work for this model
[04:42] <noah> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[04:42] <noah> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 650M / GTX 660M LE] (rev ff)
[04:42] <reisio> noah: okay, you've got two cards :)
[04:42] <noah> I've got the nvidia drivers and bumblebee installed
[04:42] <reisio> noah: probably you're not using the nvidia one ATM, so it isn't working
[04:42] <noah> reisio: is there a command to make it work?
[04:42] <vite> help with this error https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1233284
[04:43] <noah> reisio: I had to download bumblebee to turn nvidia off so that it wouldn't burn 14W constantly
[04:43] <vite> it does not allow me to upgrade
[04:43] <vite> what should I do?
[04:43] <xirre> How does System Monitor get the CPU and RAM of processes and how can I do the same?
[04:43] <reisio> noah: you'd probably need to switch to nvidia for hdmi
[04:44] <noah> reisio: how do I switch between controllers? And once I do, will it just work?
[04:44] <reisio> xirre: it probably gets it from /proc/, you should probably use top, or htop, or ps
[04:44] <reisio> noah: I believe that is what bumblebee does, as you've already done, only you want the reverse
[04:44] <reisio> noah: it'll either just work or it won't :)
[04:45] <noah> reisio: bumblebee doesn't really have a GUI. It just turns the card back on when it thinks you need it
[04:45] <xirre> reisio: That probably doesn't show like like much of a sure answer. I can't find anywhere that does it it like it does it.
[04:45] <The_Ace> noah: kill the process
[04:45] <xirre> top won't output the exact same way.
[04:45] <reisio> xirre: which way do you want?
[04:46] <reisio> noah: I'd probably do it manually, but if it's meant to do it automatically, you might look for a bumblebee bug report for hdmi connection
[04:46] <xirre> if I do top ... > cpuandram.txt It formats it weird.
[04:46] <xirre> My biggest problem is how to get a readable format for a program to read it.
[04:47] <noah> reisio: could it be that I have both nvidia and bumblebee, and I only need one?
[04:47] <reisio> noah: not really
[04:47] <reisio> noah: you have an intel device and a nvidia device
[04:47] <reisio> noah: bumblebee is for switching between the two
[04:47] <reisio> AIUI
[04:47] <noah> reisio: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136171/how-do-i-get-hdmi-out-working-with-bumblebee
[04:47] <noah> reisio: this is saying to purge both, then install bumblebee again?
[04:48] <reisio> noah: maybe that'll work then :)
[04:49] <noah> reisio: ah crap. This is a known issue. Looks like I have to set up a second session and have that running on the tv
[04:50] <noah> reisio: Thanks for the help. This looks like it's going to be painful, so I'll save it for tomorrow haha
[04:51] <reisio> noah: that nvidia optimus stuff has come a long way, too, make sure you aren't working with outdated info :)
[04:52] <noah> reisio: was written a year ago
[04:52]  * reisio shrugs
[04:53] <AndChat|402864> Will btc deop
[04:54] <AndChat|402864> I cant use android ui screen keyboards
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[04:55] <AndChat|402864> Nvm was going to ask if people here thought btc were going to drop further
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> No idea what btc even is ;)  #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chatting.
[04:56] <AndChat|402864> It is very hard to use onboard keyboards on phones
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> I often use a small bluetooth keyboard with my phone for irc
[04:56] <jmgk> oh..
[04:57] <jmgk> Dr_Willis,  rather use a computer :)
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> i got a large bt keyboard for my tablet - basically is a computer then. ;)
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> or you can setup wher the tablet is a big keyboard i can use to type on my phone.
[04:59] <kernel09> testing
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> !test
[05:00] <everestt> (Ubuntu 13.01) $users command outputs my username *3 times*. Why is that?
[05:00] <everestt> *13.04
[05:01] <everestt> I am not remotely logged in. I haven't logged in text mode (ALT+CTRL+F1/F2/..)
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> shows exactly 3 times here. and im definatly logged in more
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> ok no it changed
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> now.
[05:04] <everestt> Dr_Willis, I am on my personal laptop and have logged into my account... shouldn't $users list my username just once?
[05:05] <macsplean> hello
[05:05] <reisio> 'lo
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> everestt:  open 4 terminal windows.. it will show more  of you
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> same as the 'who' command does
[05:12] <beavis> need helo pls
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> give the channel details.
[05:13] <Guest32110> ??
[05:13] <reisio> Guest32110: hi
[05:13] <Guest32110> hey
[05:13] <reisio> heyo
[05:14] <NicolasNarvaez> wow Dr_willis, i didnt kow that one
[05:14] <everestt> Dr_Willis, ah! so that's what it is. Thanks! (Gnome Terminal > Edit > Profile preferences > 'Title and command' Tab > Uncheck 'Update login records when command is launched' ...that changes the behavior)
[05:15] <Guest32110> anyone know about foremost??
[05:15] <jmgk> hey all
[05:15] <jmgk> :D
[05:15] <reisio> Guest32110: what about it
[05:15] <reisio> heya jm
[05:15] <Guest32110> all my pics are thumbnails how do i fix that?
[05:18] <Guest32110> ??
[05:20] <reisio> Guest32110: find the ones that aren't thumbnails
[05:20] <reisio> awe he lefted
[05:21] <beavis_> hey
[05:22] <reisio> hey
[05:23] <beavis_> help??
[05:24] <reisio> beavis_: what's up? :)
[05:24] <beavis_> can u help?
[05:25] <reisio> beavis_: with what?
[05:25] <beavis_> foremost?
[05:25] <reisio> beavis_: what about it?
[05:26] <beavis_> all my pics come out as thumbnails??
[05:27] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man1/foremost.1.html   beavis_ have a read
[05:29] <beavis_> so the headers and footers?
[05:30] <prefix> how can I determine where a program is invoked from on ubuntu?
[05:31] <reisio> prefix: where?
[05:31] <prefix> nevermind. I got it
[05:31] <prefix> whereis worked like a charm
[05:31] <beavis_> im lost
[05:31] <reisio> :)
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> beavis_:  perhaps clariufy the question in a nice complete and verbose sentance.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> sentence :)
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> prefix:  theres also the 'which' command.  ie:    which mount
[05:37] <beavis_> what do you mean? im new to this
[05:37] <MonkeyDust> and 'locate'
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> beavis_:  state the question in a clear concise way. Im not sure wnyone in here has a clue what your problem is.
[05:38] <beavis_> when i recover with foremost. all my images are really small?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> !info foremost
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> perhaps its recoverying  the thumbnail images. and not the images
[05:39] <beavis_> yea what do i do than?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> recover all the files. and see what ones are the fullsized images?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> i imagine they will be the bigger filesized files
[05:41] <beavis_> sorry im lost i just stared useing this and im not trying to sound dumb
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> ive never used foremost. so no idea on the detauils of using the tool. If it rcovers the files to some directory. look in the directory for the bigger files. they should be the fullsized images. IF it did manage to recover them
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> http://www.howtoforge.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremost   seems a ok guide from whhat i just read.
[05:48] <vj_ccie_sec> hy
[05:48] <vj_ccie_sec> how can i install gns 3??
[05:50] <vj_ccie_sec> ??
[05:50] <vj_ccie_sec> any1 der?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> common way would be to use the default repos, ppa's  or source
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> thats how you install most stuff
[05:50] <qin> vj_ccie_sec: http://askubuntu.com/questions/256123/how-do-i-install-the-new-gns3-release
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> i got no idea what gns even is. l)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:52] <vj_ccie_sec> hym!
[05:52] <vj_ccie_sec> i hav installed GNS
[05:53] <vj_ccie_sec> but it needs some supportive applications to run
[05:53] <vj_ccie_sec> it properly
[05:54] <vj_ccie_sec> one is Dynamips , which i have installed and got it working
[05:54] <vj_ccie_sec> but i am getting some problem in qemu i.e; second supportive application to run
[05:55] <vj_ccie_sec> i got it complied but it is outdated
[05:55] <vj_ccie_sec> so to update that gns people provides some patch files
[05:55] <vj_ccie_sec> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gns-3/files/Qemu/Linux/QEMU-0.14.1b-GNS3-Ubuntu-Linux.tgz/download
[05:56] <andreiiar> Ok. Whenever I start vi it doesen't work like I am used to on centos. I mean it doesen't show the mode you are in the the arrow keys behave erratic.
[05:56] <Xeeshu> Morning!
[05:57] <vj_ccie_sec> here is d linhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/gns-3/files/Qemu/Patches/qemu-0.14.1-patches.tgz/download
[05:57] <vj_ccie_sec> here is the link for getting patches!
 u there??
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> andreiiar:  install the vim (or vim-full package)
[05:58] <alkisg> On a windows 8, 64 bit, UEFI laptop, if I disable secure boot, can I install ubuntu 32 bit on it? Or do I *really* have to install 64 bit?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> vim tiny or light or somthing is the default vim  andreiiar
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> brb.
[05:58] <kubanc> hellow! Any idea how come if i connect via putty to ip address x.x.x.x:22 and if i change port to random number i can still connect to ubuntulog server?
[06:09] <karab44> hi
[06:09] <reisio> hi karab
[06:09] <cfhowlett> karab44, greetings
[06:09] <karab44> :)
[06:11] <cfhowlett> alkisg, 64 bit is optimized for your system.  32 bit is not.  your choice.
[06:13] <rescept> has anyone succesfully installed google drive sync in ubuntu server? I just did it on my desktop, but I would like to have my gdrive to be synced also in my virtual server.
[06:13] <reisio> I've used grive before
[06:14] <cfhowlett> rescept, haven't done it myself, but it should be a pretty straightforward procedure.
[06:15] <reisio> cfhowlett: more like 64-bit is optimized for systems with processors no more than 10 years old, and 32-bit no more than 28 years old :p
[06:15] <wheatthin> depends on how it handles two-step verification
[06:15] <wheatthin> and large files
[06:16] <reisio> 18 more years of legacy support you don't need
[06:16] <alkisg> cfhowlett: I have a specific reason to need 32 bit, but from what I read in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI, I *can't* use 32 bit. But I'm not sure that I understood correctly...
[06:16] <reisio> I'm pretty sure you can, it's just not a common use case, with UEFI
[06:16] <alkisg> reisio: so UEFI  would allow me to boot from the ubuntu-32bit.iso?
[06:18] <wheatthin> alkisg, I hope you know UEFI isn't something you can get or download and install... it's something your motherboard either supports or doesn't
[06:20] <alkisg> wheatthin: my motherboard supports both UEFI and CSM (legacy bios) mode, but if I select UEFI, it doesn't allow me to boot ubuntu from cd/usb, and if I select CSM, then the preinstalled windows won't boot
[06:21] <alkisg> I've got secureboot disabled of course
[06:23] <wheatthin> I see.. so UEFI is a must to have a successful dualboot (for windows sake lol). umm  http://askubuntu.com/questions/193144/dual-boot-uefi-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-both-64-bits-w7-entry-doesnt-appea
[06:24] <alkisg> That's what I thought too, but that new guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI got me confused... with the trial and error paragraph
[06:24] <reisio> uefi is a must if you have a system that uses it :p
[06:24] <reisio> although technically you could replace it, with great effort :p
[06:25] <row248> Where i can find restart/shutdown logs? (I had fail option)
[06:25] <alkisg> So, ubuntu 64 bit can be booted from UEFI, but ubuntu 32 bit cannot be booted, right?
[06:26] <reisio> it's probably closer to 32-bit being less common and therefore more problematic, but not impossible
[06:26] <andreiiar> Guise. My vim is working in compatible mode and I don't like that
[06:27] <unicorn-lightnin> So.. I was trying to install MS Office 2010 using PlayOnLinux, and the installer fails right at the end of the installation. The icons for the application  don't appear on the PlayOnLinux list, but suprisingly all of the applications appear in Unity and work great.. but I am not quite sure how I can associate files with them since the applications don't appear in POL.
[06:27] <reisio> andreiiar: what've you got in ~/.vimrc?
[06:27] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: LibreOffice
[06:27] <unicorn-lightnin> not helpful.
[06:28] <andreiiar> There was no vimrc and I made one to add set nocompatible but t only starts in no compatiblilty mode if i start it with no files argument
[06:28] <unicorn-lightnin> I like LibreOffice, but it displays documents differently and when my documents go back to my job, they look poor and I would get fired. I have no choice.
[06:28] <reisio> andreiiar: with what?
[06:28] <andreiiar> With no argument^
[06:28] <andreiiar> xD
[06:28] <unicorn-lightnin> and besides, this is not a MS Office question, it's a POL/Ubuntu file association question
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> unicorn-lightnin:  perhaps check askubuntu.com   - there maybe some info onsetting it up
[06:29] <alkisg> reisio: OK I found the relevant bug report, it states there that's it's plain impossible: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1025555
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> im suprised the apps work at all
[06:30] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: hang on, I've got the wine info somewhere
[06:30] <unicorn-lightnin> how do I associate file types with a an application that seems to only appear in the Unity search.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> i do know that somehow winrar and wine decided to become the default application for ISO files on one of my systems. so its definatly doable
[06:31] <chams> hi
[06:32] <unicorn-lightnin> in the past, I was able to do it by associating the application with PlayOnLinux which then forwarded the file to the correct application.. but here that won't work because POL seems to think the application is not installed.. even though it is installed perfectly in Unity.
[06:33] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: http://dpaste.com/1404352/plain/
[06:33] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: put that into a chmod +x'd file, and tell your file manager to open the file type/s with it
[06:33] <reisio> and... change it to point to the right .exe's, obviously
[06:34] <wheatthin> like duuuh :P
[06:34] <reisio> heheh
[06:34] <unicorn-lightnin> nice.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> nothing should be taken for granted in this channel. ;)
[06:34] <wheatthin> ehehe just trying to lighten the situation :)
[06:35] <jvm_> hi. i wanted to use ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase to store the mount passphrase just to make sure; but i get an "stat: No such file or directory" error. how to get the mount passphrase for my user?
[06:36] <unicorn-lightnin> reisio.. just one problem.. let's try this..
[06:36] <pleanbean> Hey. I'm having some issues with grub not installing properly on my pc with ubuntu 13.04.
[06:36] <loki__> hello anyone here pay STO??
[06:36] <unicorn-lightnin> woops, meant to take the "one problem" part out of that last sentence
[06:37] <loki__> I am having a problem with play on linux
[06:38] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: :p
[06:38] <reisio> loki__: sto?
[06:38] <loki__> Star Trek online
[06:39] <unicorn-lightnin> hmmm, actually I'm not sure how to change this from WINE to PlayOnLinux..
[06:40] <loki__> you know how to configure wine??
[06:40] <wheatthin> aren't they the same just about?
[06:40] <loki__> some what
[06:40] <wheatthin> wine and play on linux.
[06:40] <loki__> i am having problems with both
[06:41] <wheatthin> umm ok.. so instead of just trying to avoid the issue, what is the issue?
[06:41] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: both wine
[06:42] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: you just need the prefix and the .exe path
[06:42] <pleanbean> Is anyone around to help me out?
[06:42] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: find ~/.??* -iname '*office*.exe' would probably find it
[06:42] <reisio> pleanbean: :)
[06:42] <wheatthin> pleanbean, I've still never seen your problem
[06:42] <loki__> so i followed the directions on downloading and installing ARC but i am unable to have it install startrek online
[06:42] <wheatthin> same issue?
[06:43] <pleanbean> Yeah. Still having issues with grub not installing correctly or something.
[06:43] <wheatthin> pleanbean, you dualbooting on the same hard disk?
[06:44] <loki__> its like ARC is only partially working properly
[06:44] <Guest35469> I am having trouble customizing Ubuntu. I can never install themes or anything. Any help?
[06:45] <pleanbean> No, I'm installing it on its own disk.
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: what guide are you following?
[06:45] <unicorn-lightnin> so replace the "c:\bla\bla" with /home/unicorn-lightning/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/Office2010/drive_c/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office14/WINWORD.EXE ?
[06:45] <wheatthin> pleanbean, and you've already changed the boot order in bios? and made sure when installing grub, that the linux drive was the primary bootable drive?
[06:46] <Guest35469> aeon0ltd: i sent you a message
[06:46] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: right, and the prefix bit earlier with /home/unicorn-lightning/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/Office2010, probably
[06:46] <pleanbean> Yep- its booting to the disk fine but I'm only getting a black screen with a blinking cursor. Yep made sure of that too.
[06:47] <unicorn-lightnin> what do you mean by "prefix bit earlier"
[06:47] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: then just make sure it's chmod +x'd and associate it from your file manager like it's any other app
[06:47] <Calinou> Guest35469: why not say it in channel?
[06:47] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: there's wine "C:\blah blah
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: so you're on no.7?
[06:47] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: but before that there's a WINEPREFIX string
[06:47] <Guest35469> Yes I am on no. 7
[06:47] <wheatthin> pleanbean, can I see a pastebin of your 'sudo fdisk -l" output?
[06:48] <pleanbean> Let me boot into LiveOS....
[06:48] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: what happens when you try to add the ppa?
[06:48] <pleanbean> do you want to read the chat transcripts from last night?
[06:48] <wheatthin> no..
[06:48] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: probably this: App='eval WINEPREFIX=/home/unicorn-lightning/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/Office2010 WINEARCH=win32 wine "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office/Office14/WINWORD.EXE" "'$Filename'"'
[06:48] <pleanbean> ok haha
[06:48] <Guest35469> Can I post pictures on here? I took a screenshot of what happens
[06:48] <pleanbean> i dunno we tried a lot of stuff
[06:48] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: ok
[06:49] <loki__> reinstalling ARC
[06:49] <cfhowlett> !paste|Guest35469,
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, You run the bootrepair lately and saved the bootinfo summary?
[06:49] <pleanbean> Not recently, no. I'll do it now
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, didn't you get it fixed with another user last night?
[06:50] <energizer> Anybody have idea when 13.10 release is?
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> 10/17
[06:50] <Guest35469> It says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock- open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the admin directory, is another process using it?
[06:50] <reisio> energizer: 10 means october
[06:50] <unicorn-lightnin> BAM, it worked
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: well are you using apt in another terminal?
[06:51] <unicorn-lightnin> But, what do I place in the "Filename="z:"${1//\//\\}"
[06:51] <Guest35469> I am not. How do I make it to where it shows your name in red so you can see my messages better/
[06:51] <Guest35469> ?
[06:51] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee nope we were up late trying to but didn't find a fix yet.
[06:52] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: just leave that bit
[06:52] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: if it works it works
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, This is a uefi setup correct?
[06:52] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: are you installing something with synpatics or anything else; no idea you'll need to ask specifics for your irc client
[06:52] <pleanbean> Yep
[06:52] <energizer> reisio: ya that
[06:52] <Guest35469> I am not. Let me try it right now since I know I'm not using anything.
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, Make a thread at the ubuntu forums uefi is not really a channel strength, post the bootinfo there and have uefi in the header.
[06:53] <unicorn-lightnin> It currently complains: "Word cannot open the document: Z:\home\unicorn-lightning\apps"
[06:53] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: it just means take the first argument (the file to open) and replace /'s in its path to \'s, Windows style
[06:53] <Guest35469> It says "imported: 1 (RSA: 1)
[06:53] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: for what actual file?
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, YOur welcome to keep trying here, but be specific that this is a uefi at the least.
[06:54] <unicorn-lightnin> well..  I executed the shortcut from the terminal, so that' why
[06:55] <wheatthin> unicorn-lightnin, we are all new at one point in time or another. just learn from it
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: well if it returned something then try the next command
[06:55] <unicorn-lightnin> But when I right-click the .docx file I have and choose "Open With" I can't seem to find a way to associate it with that link we created
[06:55] <unicorn-lightnin> thanks wheatthin :)
[06:55] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: did you run chmod +x fileWithMagicCodeInIt ?
[06:55] <Guest35469> Alright now it's doing something it's never done before. I'll let you know. sorry i'm a noob at this stuff.
[06:56] <unicorn-lightnin> yesh
[06:56] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: and you can't choose that file from open with?
[06:56] <Guest35469> So does anybody know if the beta for 13.10 is worth to download?
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> Guest35469, You can tab compete nicks that shows the message to the user in red.
[06:57] <wheatthin> Guest35469, and you can always lookup what the changes are.
[06:57] <wilee-nilee> 13.10 is a development its up to you 2 weeks till release.
[06:57] <unicorn-lightnin> It doesn't appear in the list. Am I doing the right thing? I go to Right click -> Open with -> Other Applications -> Show Other Applications -> Not in this list
[06:58] <wheatthin> You might have to find it in /usr/local/bin or something of the sort
[06:58] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: there should be a way to specify the path manually
[06:58] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee: Sorry yeah its EFI. wheatthin: paste.ubuntu.com/6187002
[06:58] <unicorn-lightnin> wheatthin, the problem is that it doesn't seem to have any option to specify a path manually
[06:58] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: what about right-click, properties?
[06:58] <unicorn-lightnin> let's see...
[06:59] <Guest35469> aeon-ltd,  do i have to be root to install certain stuff?
[06:59] <unicorn-lightnin> errr... nope?
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, So you removed the windows?
[07:00] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: this is... nautilus?
[07:00] <unicorn-lightnin> yes..
[07:00] <wheatthin> pleanbean, ok.. so on the /dev/sdb1 why's it empty?
[07:00] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: yes
[07:00] <unicorn-lightnin> want a screenshot?
[07:00] <Guest35469> Alright. Just wondering.
[07:00] <Guest35469> I think I'm root. Idk how to tell
[07:00] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee Yep, I just have a wiped 1tb hd. wheatthin, not sure, thats the USB LiveOS is on
[07:01] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: yeesh, seems they've quite complicated it
[07:01] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67382/add-custom-command-in-the-open-with-dialog
[07:01] <reisio> there's no doubt some cute command you can run, but I don't know it
[07:01] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: don't change to root, just use sudo, it's only 4 commands in the link you gave me
[07:01] <reisio> something to do with xdg-settings, maybe
[07:01] <wheatthin> pleanbean, hmm so your disk is /dev/sda?
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, You probably have to clean the mbr, than set the bios for msdos and make a msdos partition table and install again, you are missing the efi stuff that might have made it work.
[07:02] <unicorn-lightnin> *grumble*
[07:02] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: once you have one you can probably easily duplicate it by copying a file in ~/.gnome or ~/.config somewhere
[07:02] <unicorn-lightnin> Ubuntu Tweak isn't compatible with Saucy..
[07:02] <pleanbean> wheatthin, yep.
[07:02] <wheatthin> if so, you gotta change it from GPT to the regular partitioning scheme
[07:02] <wheatthin> in order for fdisk to work right
[07:02] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee What do you think could have caused that?
[07:03] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: can you hit CTRL+L?
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, you wiped windows, and its boot partition.
[07:03] <pleanbean> I've been having another issue with my bios reporting CPU Temperature Overflow Errors
[07:03] <unicorn-lightnin> No reisio
[07:03] <unicorn-lightnin> doesn't do anything
[07:04] <wheatthin> pleanbean, then you gotta write it and make it bootable.
[07:04] <Mikeandrd> Alright so far so good. On step 7, the install cursers, i have no idea if that link is part of the command or not
[07:04] <wheatthin> pleanbean, that's another issue.. possibly thermal paste replacement needed
[07:04] <Mikeandrd> Nvm it is lol
[07:04] <pleanbean> wheat thin, I replaced it a couple days ago
[07:05] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: mmm, this looks a little simpler than the last one :p http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/ubuntu-fix-add-program-to-list-of-applications-in-open-with-when-right-clicking-files-in-nautilus/
[07:05] <reisio> should work once you can get it to use it, though :)
[07:05] <wheatthin> then the heatsync isn't seated right
[07:05] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee, where should I go from here?
[07:06] <wheatthin> pleanbean, make sure fans are all plugged in n stuff
[07:06] <wheatthin> pleanbean, if you're sure /dev/sda is your drive
[07:06] <pleanbean> I'm sure
[07:06] <wheatthin> you must create a new partition table
[07:06] <Mikeandrd> Thanks so much for the help guys. It worked
[07:06] <wheatthin> not GPT..
[07:06] <pleanbean> I can figure out the cpu issue later
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, I would run the bootinfo summary only and start a thread at the ubuntu forums, there is a mod there who focuses on uefi, I would get their help, if no one here is definitive.
[07:07] <pleanbean> Ok…heres the boot info summary
[07:07] <pleanbean> paste.ubuntu.com/6187013
[07:08] <dog__food> disable uefi
[07:08] <pleanbean> dog__food is that to me?
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, be aware that people will just answer you with no real knowledge here.
[07:10] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, I resemble that comment!
[07:10] <pleanbean> haha
[07:10] <wilee-nilee> except for you
[07:10] <pleanbean> yep...
[07:10] <cfhowlett> LOL!
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, Here is a thread by that mod. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[07:12] <dog__food> I had to disable secure  boot before  I w as  able to boot ubuntu
[07:12] <dog__food> there was some problem with video driver
[07:13] <unicorn-lightnin> we are in business!
[07:13] <unicorn-lightnin> thank you Reisio! :D
[07:13] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: you did all that gui nonsense? :p
[07:14] <unicorn-lightnin> LOL, nah, I just edited the .desktop file and added %f to it. I don't even have to make links for each file type now
[07:14] <reisio> haha
[07:14] <reisio> gj
[07:16] <dog__food> I had several partitions and windows 8 installed  and I just wiped them all.. will it be hard to reinstall windows 8?
[07:16] <reisio> dog__food: not if you have the media, nope
[07:17] <wheatthin> ok so according to this dock,  with a UEFI system, all drives must have an efi partition which the drive must first be partitioned with GPT on all drives you want bootable. Then run the boot-repair and it should fix things
[07:17] <wheatthin> doc*
[07:18] <pleanbean> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Setting_up_GRUB2_.28U.29EFI
[07:18] <wheatthin> this eliminates the 4 primary partitioning deal that MBR is restricted to
[07:18] <pleanbean> I'm reading through this right now, its a little over my head.
[07:19] <reisio> wheatthin: the 4 primary partition deal that hasn't mattered for years, yup :p
[07:19] <wheatthin> reisio, i'm still on an ancient computer... sue me :P
[07:20] <wheatthin> been disabled for 6 years.. kinda out of the loop in ways
[07:20] <reisio> wheatthin: primary partitions matter to software, not hardware, and software is as modern as you want it to be
[07:20] <reisio> just saying :)
[07:21] <wheatthin> well this got rid of the extended partitions that just made illformed slices
[07:21] <ripthejacker> I need to add an alias for a sudo program.Where do I add it?
[07:21] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, .profile
[07:22] <ripthejacker> for sudo?
[07:22] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, or .bashrc
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> for sudo makes no sence
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> your user has alias;s
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> sudo aliasname  woukd run the users alias
[07:22] <ripthejacker> I mean a program that I run using sudo
[07:22] <unicorn-lightnin> sigh, it doesn't work, actually Reisio.. It opens the application, but when the application opens it doesn't show the document I opened, but instead a blank document.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> sudo dosent read root's .profile befor hand
[07:23] <joe2112> hi there
[07:23] <cfhowlett> joe2112, greetings
[07:23] <wheatthin> like 'alias nmap="sudo nmap
[07:23] <unicorn-lightnin> I think I'll just wait until I can install Ubuntu Tweak in a couple of weeks.
[07:23] <reisio> wheatthin: ill formed?
[07:23] <joe2112> im new to ubuntu can fomeone help me format a usb in a special way?
[07:23] <wheatthin> reisio, I didn't want to say backasswards
[07:23] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: so the sudo programs are kept in the same location as normal programs?
[07:23] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: so... that's using the script I pasted for you, or not?
[07:23] <cfhowlett> joe2112, special?  why not standard?
[07:23] <reisio> wheatthin: yeah it's strange and old, but doesn't actually cause any problems
[07:24] <unicorn-lightnin> nah, it's not using the script. it's using the .desktop trick in the second link you provided
[07:24] <joe2112> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/OTRW2_%28Optware_the_right_way_Take_2%29
[07:24] <unicorn-lightnin> Microsoft Word appears in the Nautilus Other Programs list, but if I select it, it doesn't open the document
[07:24] <joe2112> cf I am trying to make the proper partitions for astrix on my ddwrt router
[07:25] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: pointing to the script I gave, or something else?
[07:25] <Abbas-> my ubuntu 13 is acting weird appearance wise in vbox. how do i fix the visual issues? http://i.imgur.com/KD0ldk7.jpg
[07:25] <joe2112> on a usb storage drive so it can run on the usb part of my router
[07:25] <unicorn-lightnin> I can just deal with this for a couple of weeks unti Ubuntu Tweak is available for saucy
[07:25] <unicorn-lightnin> no, to the .desktop file, which already pointed at the application
[07:25] <reisio> okay, well
[07:25] <cfhowlett> joe2112,so ... not an ubuntu question then.  suggest you ask at ddwrt support
[07:26] <reisio> I can only vouch for the script I gave
[07:26] <reisio> which works :p
[07:26] <unicorn-lightnin> I guess I could try to make new .desktop files that point to the script...
[07:26] <wheatthin> Abbas-, I dunno about fixing it, but it seems to be the window manager
[07:26] <wheatthin> unity*
[07:26] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, can you help me since we left off last night?
[07:26] <joe2112> this is the room xchat dumped me into
[07:27] <joe2112> im new to irc as well
[07:27] <cfhowlett> joe2112, see support options at www.dd-wrt.com
[07:28] <Abbas-> wheatthin
[07:28] <Abbas-> can i disable unity?
[07:28] <Abbas-> i only need this to run air crack
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !nounity|Abbas-,
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !aircrack|Abbas-,
[07:29] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: I put the alias in the .bashrc file but it's not working for sudo
[07:29] <wheatthin> Abbas-, of course you can.. gnome-shell (gnome3) is great IMHO
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Abbas-, logout.  click the gear.  choose a different desktop environment.  login.
[07:29] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: the alias in .bashrc is not working for sudo
[07:29] <wheatthin> Abbas-, light desktop manager works too
[07:30] <wheatthin> did you include sudo within the quote?
[07:30] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, and is it a gtk app?
[07:31] <ripthejacker> the alias is available without sudo
[07:31] <ripthejacker> no
[07:31] <ripthejacker> not a gtk app
[07:31] <ripthejacker> *
[07:31] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, but does it require access to eth0?
[07:31] <wheatthin> or wlan0?
[07:31] <ripthejacker> it requires access to /var/log
[07:32] <tengopreguntas> hi everyone, i am writing a bash script. i was wondering,, i have a function, where i want to pass an error message. how do it it from my bash script to the STDERR of terminal where it is being executed?
[07:32] <wheatthin> are you just cat'ing it or something?
[07:33] <ripthejacker> no
[07:34] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: If I run it without sudo the alias works but fails because of no permission, but with sudo it doesn't recognize the alias
[07:34] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, it should as long as the right shell is being accessed
[07:35] <ripthejacker> from the same shell
[07:37] <ripthejacker> It says command not found
[07:38] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, does this command start with a prompt?
[07:39] <ripthejacker> with a prompt?
[07:39] <wheatthin> hping3>
[07:39] <wheatthin> with the >
[07:39] <wheatthin> hping3 was an example
[07:40] <ripthejacker> no
[07:40] <Calinou> to complete the name just use :
[07:40] <Calinou> it's more standard :P
[07:40] <Abbas-> wheatthin
[07:40] <ripthejacker> it doesn't
[07:40] <Abbas-> is there a command i need to run in shell
[07:40] <Abbas-> to disable unity ?
[07:40] <Abbas-> i want a simpler verison of ui . so it doenst run so slow in virtual box
[07:40] <Abbas-> i only need to run and install air crack ng
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  install a differnt desktop or window manager and select it at the login screen
[07:40] <wheatthin> Abbas-, I think it's sudo update-rc.d unity disable
[07:40] <Calinou> use a difference DE
[07:40] <cfhowlett> Abbas-, log out.  change the desktop environment - no unity.  login.  done.
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  i use lubuntu on virtualbox
[07:40] <wheatthin> I'm not in the environment to test
[07:41] <Abbas-> how do i change desktop environ  ? cfhowlett
[07:41] <Abbas-> i see login scren
[07:41] <Abbas-> with acount/guest
[07:41] <vj_ccie_sec> Dr_Willis please help me resolve my problem
[07:41] <sled> Hi people, can anyone help me one moment? I already googled but couldnt find anything exhaustive
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  Install a diffent desktpp or window manager. then the gear/ubuntu round icon has a menui
[07:41] <cfhowlett> Abbas-, logout.  click on the gear and choose
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> vj_ccie_sec:  and whats the issue?
[07:41] <wheatthin> Abbas-, sudo service lightdm stop  sudo service gdm start
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  for example 'sudo apt-get install jwm' to install jwm. select jwm at the login screen
[07:42] <Abbas-> i only see this cfhowlett ? http://i.imgur.com/FcTP0Kz.jpg
[07:42] <Abbas-> let me try that wheatthin
[07:42] <wheatthin> if gdm isn't install, install it
[07:42] <wheatthin> sudo apt-get install gdm
[07:42] <Abbas-> is it big?
[07:42] <sled> I am adding the foreign architecture armhf with ho "foreign-architecture armhf" >> /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch ... apt-get update complains precise/main and others armhf Packages are not found
[07:42] <Abbas-> i only have mobile data
[07:42] <Abbas-> is it like <50mb?
[07:42] <sled> echo*
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[07:42] <kongthap> anyone here please help me this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/352409/please-help-to-fix-error-while-mounting-static
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> jwm is about the tiniest window manager in the repos
[07:43] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: should I add it in the /etc/profile too?
[07:43] <Abbas-> so its gdm ;p not gwm
[07:43] <Abbas-> ok
[07:43] <Abbas-> i try
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  you may want to sumarize the question here for people who cant read the urls
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  gdm is an alternative to lightdm. gdm is NOT installed by default
[07:44] <Abbas-> ok
[07:44] <Abbas-> i installed gdm
[07:44] <Abbas-> now how do i switch?
[07:44] <Calinou> why do you want to change DMs?
[07:44] <wheatthin> Abbas-, sudo service lightdm stop && sudo service gdm start
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> when you installed gdm it should habve asked what desktop login manager to use by default
[07:45] <kongthap> Dr_Willis, I have a problem with static mounting
[07:45] <wheatthin> so he has easy access to gnome-shell
[07:45] <Abbas-> ok
[07:45] <Abbas-> i chose gdm Dr_Willis
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  and a bit more details to the channel will help..
[07:45] <wheatthin> Abbas-, to make it permanent, sudo update-rc.d lightdm disable && sudo update-rc.d gdm enable
[07:45] <Abbas-> i get this error >  http://i.imgur.com/qx3C61j.jpg
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> wheatthin:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm   lets you select gdm. No need to mess with update-rc.d
[07:46] <wheatthin> Dr_Willis, noted :)
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> apt asked when he installed gdm. if he selected  gdm , then gdm is now th edefault
[07:46] <kongthap> Dr_Willis, firstly i wanna ask first about xchat, when I want to reply some one I must type someone_name: or someone_name,
[07:46] <xmetal> i changed the DM (i think by accident) on Mint and it wasn't pretty
[07:47] <xmetal> changed it back and it was fine
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> !tab | kongthap
[07:47]  * Dr_Willis uses ko<tab>
[07:47] <kongthap> I now know about the <tab> to autocomplete
[07:48] <sled> someone?
[07:48] <kongthap> but I don't know what i use to follow someone_name after using the <tab> it's must be ":" or ","
[07:48] <oleb> newbie question: Is it any list of channel commands like !tab ?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> !alis | oleb
[07:49] <kongthap> Dr_Willis, this is a trial from me, is it working??? Can you get the red text like I did from you?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  I just use -->    ko<tab> and it fills in kongthap:
[07:50] <ripthejacker> Where do I place aliases for running a program in sudo?
[07:50] <oleb> Dr_Willis: Thanks!
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  the users irc Client handles the job of putting their own nicks in bold or whatever
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  you did log out after altering the users ~/.profile ?
[07:51] <kongthap> if I used dr_ <tab> i get "Dr_Willis," instead of "Dr_Willis:" it's really true
[07:51] <ripthejacker> i added in the /etc/bash.bashrc
[07:51] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: Do I need to logout?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  so you need to log out/back in. or 'source /the/file'
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  its not going to automatically reread/add the changes to an existing shell
[07:52] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: I added in the user .bashrc file
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  so do a 'source .bashrc'
[07:52] <ripthejacker> and I opened a new shell
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> .bashrc has several alias's allready in it i notice.
[07:53] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: the command is running without sudo , but with sudo I get command not found.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s will use the alias's it seems. but 'sudo' by itself dosent
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> im used to using sudo -s
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> tested with 'sudo ll'
[07:54] <kongthap> I have an error with static mouting
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> and sudo -s, then ll
[07:54] <kongthap> this is my setting at /etc/fstab: UUID=66940c06-8730-4468-8f02-011d5cf42646 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:54] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: not working for me
[07:54] <ripthejacker> says ll command not found
[07:55] <ripthejacker> /bin/bash: ll: command not found
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  as i said. it seems sudo dosent follow alias;s but sudo -s does
[07:55] <ripthejacker> Yes I did sudo -s
[07:55] <ripthejacker> sudo -s ll
[07:55] <sled> I am adding the foreign architecture armhf with echo "foreign-architecture armhf" >> /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch ... apt-get update complains precise/main and others armhf Packages are not found
[07:55] <kongthap> i'm sure UUID is right, I got error at the startup screen, i must press "s" to continue but I still can boot and login
[07:55] <ronin> does anyone know why I can't access 'test' directory, my username is ronin: http://codepad.org/90Rf3ViM
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22037/aliases-not-available-when-using-sudo
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> alias sudo='sudo '
[07:57] <otak> kongthap: probably you must add ,auto next to errors=remount-ro
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> then 'sudo ll' works ;)
[07:57] <wheatthin> put it in .bashrc  not .profile
[07:57] <wheatthin> in   ~/.bashrc
[07:58] <kongthap> otak: "UUID=66940c06-8730-4468-8f02-011d5cf42646 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro-auto 0       1"???
[07:58] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: yes I read that but I thought it was just a workaround and there must be some official way to do it.
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> so to get a sudo working with alias's you have to have the sudo alias also
[07:58] <wheatthin> and then it'll work
[07:58] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: guess it's the only way
[07:58] <wheatthin> ripthejacker,
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  its not a work around.. its how bash works
[07:58] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: yes I put it in bashrc, seems like sudo can't run aliases normally
[07:58] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, yes it can
[07:59] <ripthejacker> It doesn't work for me. Even sudo ll doesn't work
[07:59] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, did you renew the terminal afterwards?
[07:59] <ripthejacker> yes
[08:00] <wheatthin> and it's .bashrc and not bashrc
[08:00] <wheatthin> and it's in your user home directory
[08:00] <ripthejacker> yes I know, The alias is working fine without sudo
[08:00] <ripthejacker> If I did in a wrong file , it wouldn't work right
[08:01] <otak> I meant auto,errors=remount-ro   but I think auto is default so that might not be your problem
[08:01] <wheatthin> ripthejacker,  take it out of .profile and try again if you hadn't already
[08:01] <wheatthin> I was getting the same error with the command not found until I put it in the ~/.bashrc
[08:01] <kongthap> otak: would you mind look at my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/352409/please-help-to-fix-error-while-mounting-static
[08:02] <wheatthin> now it works just fine
[08:02] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: it's working. alias sudo did the trick. Thanks
[08:02] <wheatthin> ***slaps forehead***
[08:03] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: The error is not because I put in the wrong file
[08:03] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: It's because alias don't work with sudo
[08:03] <wheatthin> yes it does~!
[08:03] <wheatthin> I'm using it right this second
[08:03] <ripthejacker> just add : alias sudo='sudo ' in the .bashrc
[08:04] <ripthejacker> and it will work
[08:04] <ripthejacker> maybe you had already added that
[08:04] <wheatthin> no.. I showed you my whole alias file
[08:04] <wheatthin> lol
[08:04] <wheatthin> wheatthin@wheatthin:~$ cat ~/.bashrc
[08:05] <wheatthin> and it came back alias hping="sudo hping3"
[08:05] <wheatthin> gotta use the double quotes
[08:06] <ripthejacker> then you may have set the alias in some other file. Or your shell may be magic :P
[08:06] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, I just did it for your example
[08:06] <wheatthin> Use double quotes and it'll work
[08:06] <wheatthin> " " not ' '
[08:07] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: no even with double quotes it's not working
[08:08] <wheatthin> it will once you close the terminal and open another one
[08:08] <ripthejacker> but it's ok Dr_Willis suggested a method and it works
[08:08] <kongthap> i cannot start "deluge 1.3.6-0ubuntu2", it was ok before how to fix this?  "ubuntu 13.04"
[08:08] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: I was doing that all the time, I know you have to open new shell
[08:09] <wheatthin> all I know is I didn't add hping3 to anything until you had this problem..  lol and it's working perfectly fine for me.. might wanna check your /etc/sudoers file
[08:09] <ItsMeLenny> how do i run java7 while java6 is also installed
[08:09] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: run sudo ll
[08:09] <ripthejacker> what do you get?
[08:10] <wheatthin> you don't type sudo 11
[08:10] <wheatthin> you just type  11
[08:10] <Calinou> it's ll not 11
[08:10] <wheatthin> and sudo executes
[08:11] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22037/aliases-not-available-when-using-sudo
[08:11] <ripthejacker> I'm not the only one with the issue
[08:11] <wheatthin> paste.ubuntu.com/6187013
[08:12] <wheatthin> You're not getting how alias and sudo works
[08:12] <wheatthin> errr
[08:12] <wheatthin> sorry
[08:12] <wheatthin> alias 11="sudo hping3"...  I type    11 in the new terminal, and it runs sudo hping3
[08:13] <Wildbill7459> @find netflix
[08:13] <DJones> !netflix | Wildbill7459
[08:13] <otak> kongthap: sorry I can't see anything wrong, it looks just like mine, ask again in a minute or two
[08:13] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: :|
[08:13] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, just do it :)
[08:13] <ripthejacker> I don't want to run sudo in an alias.
[08:14] <ripthejacker> I want to run alias as sudo
[08:14] <wheatthin> You gotta in order to have sudo work with it
[08:14] <kongthap> otak: thanks for you help, can you guide me how to check the log file?
[08:14] <wheatthin> so you want to add on options to sudo and then just type sudo as a shortcut?
[08:15] <kongthap> otak: so I can provide more information to ask later
[08:15] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: your solution won't work if I don't want to run the program as sudo
[08:15] <wheatthin> the program sudo runs via alias to run that and the intended program you want to give permissions to
[08:15] <wheatthin> duh
[08:16] <wheatthin> if you want to use sudo -v -AknS
[08:16] <wheatthin> then it'll be     alias sudo="sudo -v AknS'
[08:17] <wheatthin> then you'll be able to use it as  sudo hping3   or whatever program you want to run
[08:17] <habanany> Join\ #ruby
[08:17] <ripthejacker> "/j #ruby"
[08:17] <auronandace> habanany: /join #ruby
[08:17] <wheatthin> and it'll carry out    sudo -v AknS hping3
[08:18] <w0rp> How much space would people allocate for an Ubuntu install nowadays? 64GB?
[08:18] <wheatthin> w0rp, minimum 8gb for a smooth full install
[08:18] <auronandace> w0rp: depends what you'll do with it, i can get by with 10gb
[08:18] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: yeah that's one solution to the sudo problem
[08:18] <w0rp> I'll try 32GB, I think.
[08:19] <cfhowlett> w0rp, system runs around 10 gigs.
[08:20] <w0rp> I'm trying to account for most of the system + MySQL data + dev tools + images and other binary files.
[08:20] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, but if you want to run a specific program like nmap with sudo privs as an alias,       alias nmap="sudo nmap"
[08:20] <wheatthin> you can also tack on the options with the -
[08:21] <wheatthin> or you can type    nmap -vvvv  domain.com or wahtever and it'll run with sudo privs
[08:21] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: I didn't think of it that way.
[08:22] <cfhowlett> W0rp are you installing a server?
[08:22] <w0rp> It's a small dev machine running a local copy of a webserver.
[08:22] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: but you could do it.
[08:22] <reisio> 32 should be plenty
[08:22] <reisio> I wish 32gb ssds were easier to get hold of
[08:22] <cfhowlett> w0rp, might want to stop in at #ubuntu-server
[08:22] <w0rp> Cool, I'll do that.
[08:22] <reisio> who needs 128gb of ss :p
[08:23] <reisio> I'd rather have the cash
[08:23] <wheatthin> ME~!
[08:23] <wheatthin> create a ramdrive :P
[08:23] <Abbas-> wheatthin i kepe getting this error?
[08:23] <Abbas-> http://i.imgur.com/AnIFdVj.jpg
[08:23] <reisio> would take a lot more to fit all my data on it, so may as well be just the OS
[08:23] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: alternatively you can do the way Dr_Willis suggested , that way you don't have to add the word sudo in your alias
[08:23] <Norpan_> Hi! I just found an old CD with ubuntu 10.04 LTS , is it okey to install this one and then update it to 13.04?
[08:23] <wheatthin> Abbas-, it's gdm sir
[08:23] <Norpan_> I have no other media at this point to install it
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  that will take a lot of time.
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  no flah drives?
[08:24] <reisio> could work, though, sure
[08:24] <Norpan_> Dr_Willis: it will? how come? no, i have one but its apprently lost...
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  it basically has to download and install EVERY package to upgrade to the newer releases.. so each release  you upgrade to will be like 700+mb of downloads
[08:24] <otak> kongthap: you can try sudo mount -t ext4 LABEL="storage1" /mnt/storage1
[08:25] <Abbas-> wheatthin i tried that too earlier. it keep getting fork-failed error. http://i.imgur.com/igXCDIW.jpg
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[08:25] <wheatthin> sudo dpkg --reconfigure gdm
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  if 10.04 used grub2 - you could install it then set up grub2 to boot the iso files for newer releases :)  and install from them VERY quickly. but thats a bit awkward.
[08:25] <Norpan_> Dr_Willis: holy cow..how many releases are there? i have 100mbit fiber and downloads often is 11MB/s should it still take really long time?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  the version # is the year/month of release. You upgrade from LTS to LTS. OR from each release to the next release.
[08:26] <wheatthin> Norpan_, You're best likely to answer that with a bittorrent session lol
[08:26] <Abbas-> wheatthin , what next now? :) http://i.imgur.com/HFuh4mv.jpg
[08:27] <reisio> technically you could do that with grub legacy as well, it's just more involved
[08:27] <kongthap> otak: the command "sudo mount" will auto re-mount everytime at startup????
[08:27] <Norpan_> wheatthin: yeah ok, i just figured if it was ONLY download that takes long or generally the installingthing that takes really long time..
[08:27] <wheatthin> Norpan_, depends on the repository server you use really.. if you use a close one, I get 2.0+MB/sec
[08:27] <wheatthin> on my 28mbps connection
[08:27] <Norpan_> Dr_Willis: i have a 20gb partition , perhaps i could make that as a bootable device
[08:28] <wheatthin> and it only takes me about 5 minutes or so
[08:28] <wheatthin> to download
[08:28] <cfhowlett> wheatthin, took me 5 years on ubuntu to learn that I could and should localize my server.
[08:28] <Norpan_> wheatthin: ok, crap hrhr, takes less time to travel to the nearest village and buy a USB key
[08:29] <wheatthin> lol well that's on my slow 28mbps connection :)
[08:29] <Norpan_> I must start in my 10.04 LTS CD for my internet to wok, in windows 8 it just says unadentified network.. crappy os
[08:29] <wheatthin> was getting up to 3.4MB/sec but 2.0+ average
[08:29] <otak> kongthap: that will tell you if the partition can be mounted now, so we think if the problem is with the partition or the boot sequence
[08:29] <Norpan_> wheatthin: what connection do you have
[08:29] <wheatthin> just a 28mbps cable connection
[08:31] <kongthap> otak: thanks i will try, but for now still wonder i just have only the root partition and swap to mount but why still get error all the time at startup...
[08:31] <wheatthin> Abbas-, sorry  dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:32] <wheatthin> I keep thinking reconfigure was a tac option
[08:33] <Norpan_> wheatthin: 28mbps?
[08:33] <wheatthin> yup
[08:33] <otak> kongthap: look at your /etc/fstab closely, look at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/295516/an-error-occurred-while-mounting-static
[08:34] <Abbas-> i gett his wheatthin > http://i.imgur.com/HFuh4mv.jpg
[08:34] <Norpan_> wheatthin: i have 100
[08:34] <wheatthin> Abbas-, sorry  dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:35] <wheatthin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:35] <Abbas-> wheatthin > output > http://i.imgur.com/nhdCPfq.jpg
[08:36] <kongthap> nautilus will display all available partitions on my disk (but not yet mounting them), if I clicked any partitions to mount i can access them at /media/user_name/partition_label_name/ so what the different compare to static mounting partition to mnt/whatever_name/?
[08:36] <wheatthin> Norpan_, I'm jealous :) one day I tell ya.. one day I'll have a server worthy of a connection :)
[08:36] <kongthap> otak: I will take a look, thanks :)
[08:36] <otak> kongthap: I'm pretty sure that's it
[08:36] <wheatthin> Abbas-, ok, so it said it's not installed, like I said before, gotta install it
[08:36] <wheatthin> sudo apt-get install gdm
[08:36] <Abbas-> yeah i tried that
[08:36] <Abbas-> i keep getting this error
[08:36] <Abbas-> lemme try again
[08:36] <kongthap> otak: thanks you've been very helpful :)
[08:37] <hramrach> hello
[08:37] <reisio> kongthap: just that, /media/ is for dynamic
[08:37] <reisio> hramrach: hi
[08:37] <hramrach> my lightdm does not start: http://paste.debian.net/49323/
[08:37] <hramrach> when I run Xorg -retro I get the X pattern on screen
[08:37] <kongthap> reisio: if I statically mounted the partition it won't show in /media/ anymore right?
[08:37] <xwalk> I'm having a problem on Ubuntu 12.04.3 with my Asus G75VW's external sub-woofer not being recognized by the alsa-mixer. I've tried the suggested work arounds at http://askubuntu.com/questions/136968/how-to-make-the-internal-subwoofer-work-on-an-asus-g73jw and the links contained within and have not seen any results indicating the speaker has become active. Other links I have cover identical work-arounds that have not yielded any resul
[08:38] <reisio> kongthap: hopefully not
[08:38] <hramrach> any idea what is missing for lightdm to start a X server
[08:38] <Abbas-> i ran it wheatthin it shows this error  > http://i.imgur.com/Em6t6HR.jpg
[08:38] <kongthap> reisio: thanks :)
[08:38] <reisio> kongthap: you can manually mount something practically anywhere, but /mnt/ is the traditional place
[08:38] <reisio> just as /media/ is now used mostly for dynamic mounts
[08:38] <kongthap> reisio: please also help me with this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/352409/please-help-to-fix-error-while-mounting-static
[08:39] <wheatthin> Abbas-,  you can try sudo apt-get remove metacity and try it again
[08:40] <reisio> kongthap: so it gives you an error that doesn't stop you from booting?
[08:41] <wheatthin> Abbas-, if that doesn't work   sudo apt-get clean all
[08:41] <otak> reisio: look at the start of /etc/fstab in kongthap's post, needs a # right?
[08:41] <Abbas-> ok ty wheatthin i m trying clena all
[08:41] <reisio> he said he "changed it back", it could be anything now
[08:42] <Norpan_> wheatthin: good luck :)
[08:42] <kongthap> reisio: yes, I still and always get that error screen i must press "s" to continue i don't know what is the problem so far, but after login I can use the system just like normal
[08:42] <reisio> otak: yeah :)
[08:42] <wheatthin> Norpan_, thanks :).. Doing all this for others.. I'm personally on a hackintosh lol
[08:42] <reisio> kongthap: otak's saying maybe you uncommented the first line
[08:43] <reisio> of /etc/fstab
[08:44] <kongthap> reisio: "uncomment" means get rid of that line???
[08:44] <kongthap> otak: "uncomment" means get rid of that line???
[08:44] <wheatthin> kongthap, no..
[08:44] <wheatthin> it means get rid of the #
[08:44] <wheatthin> at the beginning
[08:44] <otak> no
[08:44] <reisio> that is, put it back
[08:44] <otak> y
[08:45] <Norpan_> wheatthin: i have always been intrested in trying hackintosh..but it seems far to complicated and doesn't work so good even after all the trouble.. you must have exact right hardware.?
[08:46] <SmellyCat> I can't seem to log in as my user from the greeter. It seems the xsession stops and I'm back at the greeter. I have created an other user and that user can log in from the greeter. Where do I start to find the problem?
[08:46] <wheatthin> Norpan_, Ehh.. I'm stuck on snow leopard because of older system, but yeah it's running great...
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> SmellyCat: boot to root recovery console and chown your user's entire home directory to your user
[08:47] <wheatthin> need a UEFI system for troubless installs over 10.7.x
[08:47] <reisio> kongthap: get it? :)
[08:47] <Norpan_> wheatthin: that is awesome, but you have the "right" hardware? Im trying to find a up-to-date guide to install on i7 with amd radeon 7950 and pa55-ud4 gigabyte motherboard..im lost before i begin haha
[08:47] <SmellyCat> ActionParsnip: Any dirs/files in particular? I don't want to overwrite permissions onm just all files
[08:48] <kongthap> otak: i think i must accidently deleted # because poor  using vim.
[08:48] <wheatthin> Norpan_, I'd use a newer nvidia actually, but other than that, you shouldn't have a problem
[08:48] <reisio> kongthap: mmmhmmm
[08:48] <SmellyCat> ActionParsnip: I have chmod 664 .Xauthority already btw. didn't help
[08:48] <kongthap> reisio: i think i must accidently deleted # because poor  using vim, i got it now, thanks really shame on me :)
[08:48] <reisio> next time make a copy of the file, then you can easily fully revert it
[08:48] <reisio> kongthap: your storage mount working now, too?
[08:49] <otak> kongthap:  vim is like a magic wand ;P
[08:49] <Norpan_> wheatthin: i saved a few months to afford this card, im not changing hah :)
[08:49] <SmellyCat> ActionParsnip: And does it have to be recovery console? CRTL-ALT-F1 ok too, right?
[08:50] <kongthap> reisio: from now on i would try to static mount the other partition including ntfs...
[08:50] <Norpan_> wheatthin: possibly i made a misstake because linux doesn't run well under AMD ive heard
[08:50] <DzAirmaX> hey guyz !!
[08:50] <kongthap> otak: still remember the first time using vim, don't even know how to quit so click the close button of the terminal :P
[08:50] <wheatthin> Norpan_, no no.. nvidia video card :)
[08:50] <wheatthin> i7 is perfect for it
[08:50] <DzAirmaX> I have one little question for you
[08:51] <DzAirmaX> I noticed that the motd is not applyed on the first login on the machine : always on the second login time, is that normal ?
[08:51] <quietone> what to use to burn an audio cd? Brasero has failed twice for me
[08:52] <reisio> Norpan_: runs fine
[08:52] <reisio> quietone: I'd use a command, myself
[08:52] <kongthap> reisio: this time i still backup /etc/fstab for sure, the first time editing this file, i cannot boot the system at all so lucky for poor ubuntu skill like me :P
[08:52] <reisio> quietone: ...if it were 10 years ago and I still burnt CDs
[08:52] <kongthap> reisio: this time *i will
[08:52] <reisio> kongthap: :)
[08:52] <DJones> quietone: I use either K3b or Gnomebaker
[08:53] <kongthap> reisio, otak you guys rock!
[08:53] <kongthap> thanks
[08:54] <DzAirmaX> so nobody had encouter this problem before ?
[08:54] <otak> kongthap: you're welcome, have fun!
[08:54] <reisio> DzAirmaX: a box without a DE?
[08:55] <DzAirmaX> reisio : its a 13.10 server without DE
[08:55] <reisio> that's odd
[08:55] <reisio> might ask #ubuntu-server
[08:55] <DzAirmaX> hmm
[08:56] <DzAirmaX> yeah so when I ssh the machine after a fresh reboot, not motd
[08:56] <wheatthin> might have to do with landscape
[08:57] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : landscape ?
[08:58] <wheatthin> DzAirmaX, yeah landscape client gets buggy some time on server
[08:58] <wheatthin> it shows the motd with the uptime and other stuff
[08:58] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : is there a log for this landscape ?
[08:59] <wheatthin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1077244
[09:02] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : ok thans for your help
[09:02] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : my server config is weird because I dont even have the /etc/motd but I have a motd opening up after the second login :)
[09:03] <wheatthin> scroll down to the middle of that link
[09:04] <wheatthin> it's cause default is dynamically linking via motd scripts
[09:04] <kongthap> what is the easiest way to scan disk/partition for error?
[09:04] <wheatthin> kong fsck
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04.. !fsck
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> oops
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[09:08] <SmellyCat> I can't log in from the lightdm greeter as a certain user. chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME did not solve the problem. Any idea?
[09:08] <wheatthin> SmellyCat, did you change users's home?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  remove your .Xauthority file, for a start. (or rename it)
[09:09] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : motd present on my config lol
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> then if it still fails. move/rename the .config dir and other setting files to see if any are causing the issue
[09:09] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : the /etc/motd
[09:09] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: Thanks, that did the trick!
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  and i have NO idea why it breaks that way
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  but its like a daily question/fix in here
[09:10] <lirarkatt> how do you change your name in irssi?
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> lirarkatt:  /nick Bill_Gates
[09:11] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: I really wonder that myself. I recall vaguely having this problem before. I'm glad I know my way around the shell... This is a really horrible problem for the regular user...
[09:11] <lirarkatt> ty
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  i think it has somthing to do with using sudo to run gui apps. instead of gksudo. but  cant really prove that
[09:12] <wheatthin> Dr_Willis, i'm thinking it's running startx or xsession using sudo
[09:12] <wheatthin> initially
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> wheatthin:  it happens way to often to people that would never do that. :)
[09:12] <wheatthin> it does tho
[09:12] <wheatthin> :)
[09:13] <wheatthin> probably an rc error
[09:13] <wheatthin> .rc*
[09:13] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: I'm pretty sure I didn't do that yesterday. Not directly anyway. I did notice .Xauthority had 600 perms. After chmod 664 that file and trying a login, it was back to 600 perms.
[09:14] <wheatthin> SmellyCat, you gotta change the permissions for the whole user folder and all the visible and invisible files
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> Im not even really sure what .Xauthority does.. other then some sort of security
[09:14] <kongthap> ubottu: "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" <- i just type all of this at once right?
[09:14] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: I think with MIR it'll be gone anyway :)
[09:14] <wheatthin> xauthority is initialized when creating an xsession
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  yes.. or use a live cd or rcovery mode and  fsck by hand
[09:15] <ko0o0ky> pease
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  mir is aparently getting pushed back  (or xmir) from wht i just saw on webupd8
[09:15] <wheatthin> to check for proper tty perms for x to start
[09:15] <ko0o0ky> hello guys
[09:15] <reisio> 'lo
[09:16] <ko0o0ky> how can I setup vidalia
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> !tor
[09:16] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: Well, X will be replaced sooner or later. Thanks for the help and bb.
[09:16] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, I wouldn't.. just install tor-socks and privoxy
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  they have been trying to replace it for years. ;)
[09:16] <gordonjcp> SmellyCat: it's not really a big deal since most people won't be renaming users ;-)
[09:16] <reisio> given that most(?) of the X guys are working on wayland now, I'm guessing sooner
[09:16] <kongthap> Dr_Willis: yesterday the power was off, so i didn't shutdown, i have to fsck manually or it was done already at the previous booting???
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  its supposed to do it automatically if the filesystem was not unmounted cleanly
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  a fsck may happen so fast at boot time you dont even notice it
[09:17] <reisio> kongthap: those lines in /etc/fstab end in 0 0?
[09:18] <kongthap> reisio: "UUID=66940c06-8730-4468-8f02-011d5cf42646 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[09:18] <reisio> is it / you were worried about?
[09:18] <ko0o0ky> is that what you can do for me?
[09:19] <reisio> ko0o0ky: what's the problem?
[09:19] <kongthap> reisio: it was "0 1" so i think i need " 0 0", how to do think?
[09:19] <kongthap> reisio: ***it was "0 1" so i think i need " 0 1", how to do think?
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  i think they use 0 1    for a reason. :)
[09:20] <SmellyCat> gordonjcp: ?? I didn't rename a user... anyway...
[09:20] <ko0o0ky> vidalia was unble to start tor
[09:20] <ko0o0ky> why
[09:20] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, don't use vidalia
[09:20] <kongthap> reisio: i just add a line: "UUID=9b7ac413-1ddf-4c2e-a74d-75651d6bd37c /mnt/storage1   ext4    defaults          0       2", how do you think?
[09:21] <ko0o0ky> what shuld I use
[09:21] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, use tor-socks and privoxy.. it's headless but it does the same job
[09:21] <gordonjcp> SmellyCat: did you run something GUI as root?
[09:21] <reisio> kongthap: should be fine, yup
[09:21] <kongthap> Dr_Willis: i think so, and i just add a line: "UUID=9b7ac413-1ddf-4c2e-a74d-75651d6bd37c /mnt/storage1   ext4    defaults          0       2", how do you think?
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> is 0 2 even a valid option?
[09:21] <reisio> yeah
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  my / entry has '0 1'
[09:21] <reisio> 2 means lower priority than 1
[09:21] <quietone> DJones, thank you better. Just doesn't work in the stereo
[09:21] <reisio> 1 being a better idea for /
[09:21] <kongthap> reisio: i agree
[09:21] <ko0o0ky> thank you
[09:21] <SmellyCat> gordonjcp: I don't think so, but I'm not 100% sure. (I'm moving to nick Mouzz btw)
[09:22] <ko0o0ky> did firefox brw need to setup
[09:22] <ko0o0ky> does
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> you have to configure firefox to use tor - i belive.
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> or use the socks/proxy at least
[09:22] <wheatthin> you can setup firefox, or via proxy extension for firefox
[09:23] <wheatthin> if you're using privoxy too, you gotta configure privoxy/config to use socks5 <IP_ADDRESS>:9050
[09:23] <wheatthin> forward settings
[09:25] <quietone> how do I get the song title to be 'burned' on an audio cd?
[09:25] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, listen-address  <IP_ADDRESS>:8118  (or use whatever your ip is)
[09:26] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, forward-socks5   /               <IP_ADDRESS>:9050 .
[09:26] <wheatthin> uncheck that last one
[09:26] <reisio> quietone: you'd probably need a cue file
[09:26] <wheatthin> save the file and sudo service privoxy restart
[09:27] <quietone> reisio, I burned that with Brasero and it doesn't play in stereo
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  for me - if i use k3b, and the mp3 file has the right tags  it does it ive noticed.
[09:27] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, then you can configure firefox to use your internal IP and port 8118
[09:27] <reisio> quietone: what makes you think it's a stereo file?
[09:28] <quietone> reisio, I don't know what a stereo file is. I mean when I put the CD I burned into the stereo it doesn't play
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  how old is the   cd player? it could be it cant read cd+r or -r or whatver
[09:29] <reisio> oh "the stereo"
[09:29] <quietone> Dr_Willis, oh. about 17 yrs
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  :) kids these days.,
[09:29] <reisio> quietone: unfortunately that could be caused by a great many things
[09:29] <reisio> Dr_Willis: heh
[09:29] <reisio> "the hifi"
[09:29] <wheatthin> age is one
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  then its VERY likely it cant read cd+-r/rw
[09:29] <wheatthin> LOL
[09:30] <wheatthin> quietone, it must be cd-r only then
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking cd+r was more compatible with old cd players. but its been years since i last had to worry about it
[09:30] <reisio> basically, in the time you've spent on this, you probably could've gone and bought a cheap computer to use as a media pc, replacing your CD player
[09:30] <quietone> Dr_Willis, then what are the music CDs we buy, they aren't CD+r
[09:30] <reisio> s/CD/usb or network/
[09:30] <wheatthin> they are mp3's now,
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  No idea. they could be Stamped Cd's for all i know.
[09:31] <quietone> reisio, I am unemployed
[09:31] <wheatthin> :) so doesn't matter.. +r was data..  -r was media
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> backin the old days - we used to argue over what was better.. +r or -r... and make tools out of rocks..
[09:32]  * Dr_Willis rocks back and forth in his rocking chair and  smokes his pipe..
[09:32] <wheatthin> that's how we made coasters :D
[09:32] <kdelwat> I remember going through stacks of CD's looking for a blank one
[09:32] <wheatthin> I do that with dvd's
[09:32] <wheatthin> lol
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> back when you had to recompile your kernel just to support a cd burner! Now those where the good linux days!
[09:32] <reisio> you talking about DVD-R vs DVD+R?
[09:33] <reisio> doesn't matter, it's all a waste of time
[09:33] <wheatthin> lol
[09:33] <llutz> there are dvd-+r but not cd+r
[09:33] <reisio> quietone: if you spend all your time authoring CDs, you're going to remain unemployed
[09:33] <reisio> not an efficient use of time
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> My Car 'stero' can rip music cds  to its internal hard drive. :)
[09:33] <wheatthin> might as well be clone drives huh?
[09:33] <reisio> in-car hifi
[09:34] <quietone> reisio, thats a bit unkind
[09:34] <reisio> nah, it'll help you stop wasting your time
[09:35] <wheatthin> I'm unemployed too.. but disabled
[09:35] <reisio> there is no earning tier for which it is not a waste of time to burn a CD
[09:36] <kongthap> i successfully mount the other partitions :)
[09:37] <wheatthin> congrats
[09:38] <reisio> gj
[09:38] <kongthap> after static mounting, i don't see the other partitions from the "device pane" of nautilus, i must access the partition via /mnt/ is this the way it is?
[09:38] <reisio> kongthap: you can make a "bookmark"
[09:38] <reisio> or favorite or whatever your file manager calls them
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: are theyt internel partitions or USB/SD cad based?
[09:39] <wheatthin> kongthap, it'll mount in /media .. could mount in /media/<username/<mntname>
[09:40] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: it's a partition on the same disk as root partition
[09:41] <kongthap> reisio: i saw the bookmark dialog on nautilus but i think i cannot add new one, i only saw "delete" and "sort" buttons
[09:41] <wheatthin> kongthap, drag and drop the folder to the left side
[09:41] <wheatthin> of nautilis
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> drag/drop a folder to the left side panel where the nautilus bookmarks are ;)
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> theres also a keyboard shortcut i think
[09:41] <kongthap> wheatthin: i see, thanks :)
[09:41] <wheatthin> Dr_Willis, beat ya :D
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> no you dident. ;P
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> i saw my text first
[09:41] <wheatthin> uhuh~! :D
[09:42] <wheatthin> lol
[09:42] <reisio> kongthap: you can
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> that feature will most likely get removed from the next nautilus anyway. its to complex for users to handle
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[09:43] <kongthap> reisio: i can drag but i cannot drop
[09:44] <kongthap> wheatthin: i can drag but i cannot drop
[09:44] <wheatthin> kongthap, drag, and drop it in the lower left
[09:44] <kongthap> wheatthin: dragging "storage1" folder right???
[09:45] <wheatthin> kongthap, honestly, I dunno which folder you want shortcutted to the side
[09:46] <kongthap> wheatthin: i mounted my partition to /mnt/storage1/
[09:46] <wheatthin> it's separated by devices and then system shortcuts
[09:46] <kongthap> wheatthin: so i must drag "storage1" folder from nautilus right?
[09:46] <hacyard> hello everyone, how should I configure clawsmail? which settings will be better? SSL? STARTTLS?
[09:46] <wheatthin> so yeah change your directory in nautilus to /mnt  drag storage1 and drop it in the lower left hand side
[09:47] <wheatthin> kongthap, it's separated by devices and then shortcuts to user folders on the filesystem
[09:48] <gregoryfenton> Hi all. Any idea why I am getting 404 errors when I am trying to do apt-get update? Specifically the Packages file is 404ing although Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz are at the same location,  for example W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:48] <quiet1> Dr_Willis, reisio, DJones thanks for your help
[09:48] <quiet1> goodnight
[09:48] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, try sudo apt-get clean all
[09:48] <wheatthin> and try again
[09:48] <gregoryfenton> still 404ing wheatthin
[09:49] <wheatthin> can you ping google.com?
[09:49] <hacyard> or which one would you recommend to use? clawsmail or thunderbird?
[09:49] <gregoryfenton> "64 bytes from fa-in-f138.1e100.net (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_req=1 ttl=50 time=14.8 ms"
[09:49] <wheatthin> hacyard, neither.. gmail interface is plenty.. saves room on physical drive too
[09:50] <kongthap> wheatthin: i'm looking for a way to get directly to /mnt/storage1/ , it's a bit quicker to got mnt -> storage1, if can be possible
[09:50] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, try a new repository
[09:50] <mainte> hello everyone, which email client would you recommend? thunderbird or clawsmail?
[09:51] <vusie> mainte: thunderbird
[09:51] <ikonia> mainte: try them, see what you like
[09:51] <wheatthin> kongthap, that's what's it's doing sir when you drag and drop it to the side.. nautilus is opened and wham you click on the shorcut
[09:51] <gregoryfenton> I have tried gb, fr, de and none, all give the same result
[09:51] <wheatthin> if you want it on the desktop.. you can right click and create a link
[09:52] <wheatthin> right click on the desktop
[09:52] <kongthap> wheatthin: i honestly can drag but cannot drop the "folder", so is result i cannot create shortcut :(
[09:52] <mainte> vusie, I tried them both, and both were ok. but I'd like to use functions like encryption and signing messages. in that respect, I'd like to know which one would have more secure options
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: ln -s /mnt/storage1 ~/Desktop/Storage
[09:52] <Ceninant> I like thunderbird...
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: nice and easy
[09:53] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: that's symlink right?
[09:53] <wheatthin> rgr
[09:53] <vusie> mainte: oops i dont go that deep i just use in a standard way.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: exactly, when you click on the link you will see the data. You can also save data into the link and it will save in /mnt/storage as well
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: lots of flexibility
[09:54] <wheatthin> same thing as a shortcut no? :P
[09:54] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin I have tried gb, fr, de and none, all give the same result
[09:54] <kongthap> it's done thanks ActionParsnip and wheatthin  :)
[09:55] <mainte> could anyone maybe give me some hints on configuring clawsmail? I did that a long time ago that I dont remember, and now I can't make it work.
[09:55] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, is this particular package  from the ubuntu repository?
[09:55] <mainte> should I use SSL or STARTTLS, for example?
[09:56] <fishcooker> i've cronjob like this 55      5       3       10      *       /etc/init.d/clearlog
[09:56] <fishcooker> it should execute  at 5:55 3 Oct.. why the cron dont do that job?
[09:56] <wheatthin> !repository
[09:56] <kongthap> how different between symbolic and hard links??? :P
[09:56] <wheatthin> you can use many symlinks
[09:56] <reisio> most mere mortals don't need hard links
[09:56] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin this is when I do apt-get update, and I was trying to install jed
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: hard links must be on the same disk
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: if you make a hard link to a file then delete the original, the data will still stand
[09:57] <Monotoko2> if I run rsync on a folder that's been partially copied with cp, will it just skip everything that's already been copied and do the rest?
[09:58] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, I think it's safe-update now
[09:58] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: so hard link creates another copy?
[09:58] <wheatthin> !jed
[09:58] <wheatthin> I don't know what jed is
[09:58] <reisio> Monotoko2: should, yeah
[09:59] <Monotoko2> reisio: brilliant, thanks
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: essentially yes
[09:59] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin the problem is that the file Packages is not present, although if I open the location in a browser I can see Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz. I am on 13.04
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: as long as there is a hard link to the data, it will stand, if all links go the data is 'gine', symlinks excluded
[10:00] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: if i created a hard link to a folder which contains a tons of files, those files get dupplicated copy for each?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: in effect, but the data is only on the drive once
[10:01] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, I'm aware you're on 13.04.. 404 is the package isn't present.. and again, is this from the main repo? or is it an alternative package?
[10:02] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: you wroted, ... if all links (hard links) go (means delete)
[10:02] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: ???
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: make a folder and make some files in it, make a hard link to it and then delete the first folder, then open the hard link you made
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: yes if there are hard links o some data then the data is still accessible by the OS in the usual way
[10:03] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: ok so the data in the hard link still remains until i delete the hard link itself...
[10:04] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, if it's not maintained by ubuntu, then you'll have to file an 404 error to the maintainer
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: yes, once the last link goes, its gone. technically the folders you make are the same
[10:05] <wheatthin> ubottu doesn't know what jed is, so I dunno
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: try with some dummy data, its fun
[10:06] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: sure i will
[10:07] <biunx> hello, could anyone help me with configuring clawsmail, please? I can't make it work
[10:07] <kongthap> i just timed my booting time, it takes 1:15 mins, i think it's too long time
[10:07] <tarelerulz> Any one know how to turn off  bad word block in chrome ?
[10:08] <wheatthin> tarelerulz, can loog in chrome://flags
[10:08] <wheatthin> look*
[10:08] <kongthap> i'm using amd a6 (64 bits) 8 gb of ram why booting time too long?
[10:08] <wheatthin> what's your timeout?
[10:09] <wheatthin> on grub
[10:10] <reisio> kongthap: 64-bit doesn't mean ultra fast necessarily
[10:10] <DeepBlue> how 2 no a cpu is 32 or 64-bit?
[10:10] <reisio> DeepBlue: grep ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo is usually definitive
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:10] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin sorry for the delay, here is the complete output from apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/pKusRCuK
[10:11] <kongthap> reisio: i realized that, just giving info about my system it's still quite modern :)
[10:11] <reisio> kongthap: :)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: you can run:   dmesg | less      look for large gaps in the left colomn (which is in seconds)
[10:11] <kongthap> reisio: do you think it's too long time to boot???
[10:12] <reisio> kongthap: I think boot time is a measure of something that needn't be measured
[10:13] <DeepBlue> reisio ,ActionParsnip : here  ,  http://dpaste.com/1404504/
[10:13] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: [    0.000000] initial memory mapped: [mem 0x00000000-0x1fffffff] i just have to look through these lines right? i must focus inside [xxxx] right?
[10:13] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, I'm not sure but I think there's a spelling error in your sources.lst
[10:14] <llutz> DeepBlue: if reisios command gives some output at all, its 64bit cpu
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: that is at 0 seconds, so not useful
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: scroll down and read the seconds, when you get a large gap, that is the issue
[10:14] <wheatthin> ActionParsnip, what do you say about gregoryfenton's problem? http://pastebin.com/pKusRCuK
[10:14] <biunx> all right, just managed to make it work. I think it was the username which had to be full email address
[10:15] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: i meant i don't know what to look for at the first :P
[10:15] <wheatthin> ip is up and working, but I'm thinking the url is using a space instead of a slash
[10:15] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: [    0.002764] Inode-cache hash table entries: 524288 (order: 10, 4194304 bytes) just look for line link this right?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: the leftmost number is the time in seconds
[10:15] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin this is new install, apart from trying different servers I haven't touched sources.lst. I will upload it momentarilt.
[10:15] <DeepBlue> llutz:  check this, http://dpaste.com/1404504/
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: dont worry about the actual text, just lok at the leftmost value
[10:16] <llutz> DeepBlue:why should i? if reisios command gives some output at all, its 64bit cpu
[10:16] <reisio> DeepBlue: grep produces output when it finds the string it's searching for
[10:16] <reisio> DeepBlue: you've searched for ' lm' and gotten output, so it found it
[10:16] <reisio> DeepBlue: this means you have a 64-bit proc
[10:16] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: OK just what inside [***] ???
[10:16] <llutz> DeepBlue: 32bit cpu do not have "lm" flags
[10:16] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode
[10:17] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: one more thing this file has no timestamp how do i know where is the end of the most recently booting log???
[10:17] <DeepBlue> ok, thanx  llutz,reisio
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: the file is made from the nanosecond the kernel started, to right now
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: and yes, what is inside the brackets
[10:18] <alexw> Can anyone help http://paste.laravel.com/WaO ?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> alexw: who is the owner of /srv/www/app/staging/releases/20131003201246/phpunit.xml ?
[10:19] <alexw> -rwxr-sr-x 1 rocketeer www-data
[10:20] <wheatthin> greg source.lst is wrong
[10:20] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: this take 11 secs: [   11.140461] EXT4-fs (sda5): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[10:21] <tilerendering> hi anybody running vnc server under ubuntu 12.04 here ?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: then run an fsck on sda5 in livecd
[10:21] <tilerendering> I can connect to the vnc server, but it doesnt show me any applications or menu
[10:21] <tilerendering> just an empty screen
[10:21] <tilerendering> (ubuntu 12.04 lts)
[10:21] <tilerendering> and yes, I installed gnome-core
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: what is the purpose of the VNC session?
[10:22] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, If you look at your pastebin and then look at the link
[10:22] <tilerendering> maybe I should include some special entries in the startup apps ?
[10:22] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: i think i misunderstood, actually [timeing] is the sum timing from the previous line, is that right?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: there may be a sleeker solution than VNC
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: yes, its the time the event happened, in seconds, since the kernel started
[10:23] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin http://pastebin.com/8ictdMHM
[10:23] <tilerendering> ActionParsnip: long-term: run a vmware vm in it (windows7). but now, for short-term: i d just like a graphical environment in wich i can start a terminal, and launch a file manager and basically have basic ubuntu admin tasks/apps at my disposal
[10:23] <Jack_Giant> big question: http://pastebin.com/VkEvYaaR
[10:23] <tilerendering> I d like to use vnc because it has been recommended to me by vmware
[10:23] <tilerendering> so - what do I do in order to see some regular apps/menus in my vnc session ?
[10:24] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: actually i can deal with 1:15 of booting, but i just feel disappoint that win7 boots faster on this hardware :(
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: ho many times do you boot?
[10:24] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: *i can accept
[10:24] <reisio> what makes you think it boots faster?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: so you want to manage a vmware server? Is that it?
[10:25] <tilerendering> ActionParsnip: yes, but I want to use a ubuntu gui prior to that
[10:25] <tilerendering> so can you give me help with my problem ?
[10:25] <tilerendering> or do you want to recommend me something I dont want ;)
[10:25] <k1l> kongthap: be aware, that windows does some kind of hibernation and not a real shutdown
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: why not install the VIC on a system and connect to the remote system to manage it?? Why are you using VNC when there is a much sleeker (and more secure) method?
[10:25] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: in usual situation it always takes about this long... but i never time it on purpose until today
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: are you crazy?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: i'd run an fsck overnight on the sda5 partition
[10:27] <sorin2189> Hello everyone! I tried installing 13.04 yesterday and I've run into a huge problem:  Right after install, I enabled fglrx restricted driver from the 'Restricted Drivers' tab in 'Software and Updates'.  It asked me to reboot for the new driver to be loaded, and i did so. Problem is my system did not boot again.  I said ok, i'll try the fglrx-updates driver, so i reinstalled ubuntu 13.04 and tried with that one. Needless to say, i
[10:27] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: i saw i youtube clip, a guy boots his notebook (not so new model) with ubuntu, it's super fast so I'm just jealous him
[10:27] <sorin2189> Anyone has any idea what the hell is happening ?
[10:27] <reisio> sorin2189: msg cut off
[10:27] <kongthap> i will try to manually run fsck
[10:27] <reisio> sorin2189: reinstalling over a driver change is kind of a waste of time :)
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> scyrmion: which ATI GPU do you use?
[10:28] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, sorry man.. I don't think that section is supported
[10:28] <sorin2189> reisio: i know it's a waste of time, but i always think fresh install is better
[10:28] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin thanks, I will figure this out. Much appreciated :)
[10:28] <wheatthin> it says in that paste that although it may contain some newer versions with different features, it's not maintained too well
[10:28] <sorin2189> anyway, this doesn't solve my problem. I'm really disappointed that a simple driver install screws up the system
[10:28] <reisio> sorin2189: it isn't :)
[10:29] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, why did you enable that section anyways?
[10:29] <sorin2189> fresh install being better or not is not really the problem at hand
[10:29] <reisio> fresh installs are "good" in Windows land, because there's no way of telling what goes on when Windows installs, it's all closed
[10:29] <reisio> GNU/Linux distros are entirely open, so you don't have that problem
[10:29] <reisio> just saying
[10:29] <sorin2189> ok, got it. how about some thoughts about my real problem? :(
[10:30] <reisio> sorin2189: what's the problem now?