[02:56] <boxerboy29> no such file or directory
[02:56] <commrules> its an Acer Aspire 1694, x700 vidcard, intel
[02:56] <DVSoftware> stop helloing
[02:56] <P8ntKid> Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections?
[02:56] <zoe> edwin, the drive worked in Mandrake?
[02:56] <ouroboros> DVSoftware yes my friend gave me cedega_4.4-1.i386.tar.gz eventually, in high hopes
[02:56] <funkyHat> DVSoftware, hello :)
[02:56] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: have you tried to unpack it in /
[02:56] <DVSoftware> ?
[02:56] <ouroboros> ?
[02:57] <ouroboros> hmm
[02:57] <ouroboros> I believe I've done this
[02:57] <DVSoftware> well let's play with chroot then
[02:57] <ouroboros> but i386...that should be for chroot, no?
[02:57] <DVSoftware> nope
[02:57] <ouroboros> ohhh
[02:57] <mindframe> anyone know how to delete a device shown by iwconfig?
[02:57] <DVSoftware> just unpack it to your /
[02:57] <ouroboros> damn this hybrid disaster
[02:57] <ouroboros> very well
[02:58] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: and for chroot you have to mount cdrom manually
[02:58] <P8ntKid> Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections?
[02:58] <DVSoftware> mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[02:58] <thinman> help please: after remove rmmod "module_name".  Will it come back after rebooted ?
[02:58] <edwin> zoe, wait looks like it is working
[02:58] <DVSoftware> thinman: yes
[02:58] <bimberi> thinman: it it's normally loaded at boot, yes
[02:59] <thinman> what should i do to have it very fast on reboot ?
[02:59] <IcemanV9> mindframe: ???   if you want to show one device, then type 'iwconfig ath0' (or whatever your device is)
[02:59] <goose_boy> can i make a dos boot disk in linux?
[03:00] <mindframe> IcemanV9, i want to delete one of them - its messing things up.  (iwconfig shows eth1 and eth2 for the same wireless card)
[03:00] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: if you have image file - yes
[03:00] <bimberi> thinman: what do you mean "very fast"?
[03:00] <commrules> newb question: when i "ls" all I see is Desktop, and when i type sudo /etc/x11/xorg.conf it doesnt find it, what subdirectory do i need to be in to find xorg.conf
[03:00] <edwin> zoe, thaks it starting working after mount... it recognize it
[03:00] <IcemanV9> mindframe: ahh. ok. sudo ifconfig ethx down
[03:01] <DVSoftware> commrules: you can't execute config file
[03:01] <mindframe> IcemanV9, yeah but eth2 isnt showing up w/ ifconfig
[03:01] <zoe> edwin, glad to hear.
[03:01] <karen> I plugged in a Kodak EasyShare cx7530 - I get the "Import phots from camera?" dialog, but then when I say "yes!" i get "unknown model"
[03:01] <DVSoftware> do sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:01] <karen> is there a place to get more drivers?
[03:01] <mindframe> IcemanV9, that didnt remove it from iwconfig anyway :(
[03:01] <boxerboy29> karen: did you set it up in CUPS?
[03:02] <karen> boxerboy29, set up the camera?
[03:02] <DVSoftware> karen: try with gphoto2, but i think it's preety same thing
[03:02] <boxerboy29> karen: oh sorry i thought you ment the printer
[03:02] <DVSoftware> i'll repeat myself
[03:02] <vader1102> is anyone here using an iriver 5gb mp3?
[03:02] <DVSoftware> anyone plays guild wars here?
[03:02] <IcemanV9> mindframe: hmm. it should. which one is the right one eth1 or eth2?
[03:03] <mindframe> IcemanV9, eth1 is what i was using before installing breezy.  its also the one i have configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:03] <P8ntKid> Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections?
[03:03] <goose_boy> DVSoftware, how do i do it?
[03:03] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: man dd
[03:04] <karen> also, any idea why lsusb doesn't show the camera?
[03:04] <commrules> DvSoftware: changed the Driver "ati" to Driver "vesa" (which is what I was told to do), how do I save&quit from this editor?
[03:04] <IcemanV9> mindframe: breezy? i am not there yet. heard it was much improved over hoary. however, you should be using network manager to take care of it.
[03:04] <DVSoftware> ctrl+x
[03:04] <DVSoftware> and answer y
[03:04] <DVSoftware> and enter
[03:05] <IcemanV9> mindframe: that's what i have learned from others (who using breezy)
[03:05] <ouroboros> DVSoftware: I owe you a bottle
[03:05] <mindframe> IcemanV9, ive tried that :(
[03:05] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: :D
[03:05] <ouroboros> well that's one down
[03:06] <goose_boy> DVSoftware, wgat software do i use to put a floppy image on a disk?
[03:06] <mindframe> IcemanV9, i wish i knew why the hell it was even detecting eth2
[03:06] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: dd
[03:06] <goose_boy> shit dd?
[03:06] <vader1102> bob2, my friend has an Iriver 5 gb MP3 player and from what I have read, they say that it should be mounted as a usb hard drive but it isn't any ideas?
[03:06] <goose_boy> i have no idea how to use dd
[03:06] <Agrajag> man dd
[03:06] <jmont> goose_boy, dd if=image_file of=/mnt/floppy
[03:06] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: read man page
[03:06] <DVSoftware> man dd
[03:07] <IcemanV9> mindframe: hmm. wished i could help ya more.
[03:07] <dbzdeath> vader1102: when it is plugged in it should be detected as a scsi device
[03:07] <vader1102> dbzdeath, thank you
[03:07] <delire> goose_boy: if == "in file", of == "out file"
[03:07] <DVSoftware> when i plug in
[03:07] <DVSoftware> usb hard drive
[03:07] <dbzdeath> vader1102: if you need anymore help just ask :)
[03:07] <DVSoftware> icon shows on desktop
[03:08] <vader1102> dbzdeath, thanx ;-)
[03:08] <ColonelKernel> is it possible to do a net-install of debian, then switch the repos to ubuntu and install gnome,x,etc?
[03:09] <mindframe> ColonelKernel, that'd be cool.
[03:09] <markg24> ColonelKernel -- I tried that with warty and didn't have much success ...
[03:09] <ouroboros> DVSoftware: big question, installing patches for games, etc?
[03:09] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: it depends
[03:09] <DVSoftware> for example patching wow is a bit tricky
[03:09] <ColonelKernel> im not particularly stoked on the startup process of Ubuntu since it doesnt allow for the use of vanilla kernels 2.6.13+, it needs devfs+tmpfs support for my setup to work properly
[03:09] <ouroboros> DVSoftware: hmm, well I'm testing Ultima 9 for s+g's
[03:09] <DVSoftware> but others should do fine
[03:10] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: i have problem with guild wars
[03:10] <anthony> does any one want to help set up a helpless persons wireless card
[03:10] <ColonelKernel> ubuntu IS the most up-to-date distro ive found though, aside from the kernel
[03:10] <DVSoftware> i've bought it today
[03:10] <DVSoftware> and i can't play it
[03:10] <Gobbla> umm my sound in xmms just got really f-d up
[03:10] <ouroboros> DVSoftware: There's a 1.19 patch for it - you would just cedega the patch file?
[03:10] <markg24> anthony - what kind of wireless?
[03:10] <Gobbla> what can i do about this? :/
[03:10] <DVSoftware> because of stupid recent patch that breaks cedega support
[03:10] <ColonelKernel> esp w breezy comig out
[03:10] <P8ntKid> Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections?
[03:10] <anthony> what do you mean by that
[03:10] <karen> so I installed gphoto2 - shouldn't it have added a menu item for the app?
[03:10] <anthony> wireless g?
[03:11] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: yep
[03:11] <ouroboros> sweet
[03:11] <markg24> anthony -- chipset?
[03:11] <anthony> broadcom
[03:11] <DVSoftware> karen: gphoto2 is console app
[03:11] <anthony> i have the driver and everything
[03:11] <markg24> ok - what version of ubuntu?
[03:11] <MarcN> I'm moving a bunch of photos around and nautilus is very crashy & hangy.  Anyone else seeing that? (breezy)
[03:12] <anthony> 5.04
[03:12] <markg24> MarcN -- nautilus has left me hangin' recently too ...
[03:12] <DVSoftware> w00t
[03:12] <markg24> anthony -- ok
[03:12] <markg24> anthony - have you installed ndiswrapper-utils?
[03:12] <DVSoftware> anthony: can you drop me url to download broadcom wireless driver?
[03:12] <goose_boy> damn how do i mount a preformated floppy ?
[03:12] <MarcN> markg24: man, i've been using nautilus since the Eazel days and it always has been problamatic.
[03:12] <vader1102> dbzdeath, nope it doesn't see a scsi device
[03:12] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: i think that output should be /dev/fd
[03:12] <markg24> MarcN -- no kidding!!
[03:12] <karen> DVSoftware, ah.   this page says the cx7530 is supported - do I just need to find a more recient ver? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=10521&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200506
[03:13] <anthony> i just took it off of a windows cd, it is the .inf file right
[03:13] <DVSoftware> maybe
[03:13] <markg24> anthony - you have to use ndiswrapper
[03:13] <delire> karen: if you install gphoto2 it will be resourced by GUI camera picture browser apps like gtkam and digikam
[03:13] <anthony> i know
[03:13] <DVSoftware> anthony: i don't have win cd handy
[03:13] <markg24> ok -- so you did ndiswrapper -i xxxx.inf
[03:13] <goose_boy> when i do mount /media/floppy it says i have to specify a file type
[03:13] <DVSoftware> can you drop me an email ?
[03:13] <dbzdeath> vader1102: hmmm type.... dmesg  and see what it says after you have plugged it in with comparison to before
[03:13] <DVSoftware> with driver attached?
[03:13] <vader1102> ok
[03:13] <karen> delire, thats what I was hoping for - thanks
[03:14] <delire> karen: you won't need to use the console..
[03:14] <markg24> anthony - and then you did ndiswrapper -m
[03:14] <anthony> yeah and when i try to do the ndiswrapper -m it says that there is already an alias created
[03:14] <vader1102> I am relaying as you put it in
[03:14] <leopard>  usb 1-1.2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10
[03:14] <markg24> ok -- if you type iwconfig what does it list?
[03:15] <jorock> does anyone have ati drivers working in breezy?
[03:15] <goose_boy> ?
[03:15] <markg24> anthony -- I've found with ndiswrapper that sometimes it will all 'install' but if it doesn't list the essid properly then it's not working right
[03:15] <goose_boy> what file system should i specify?
[03:15] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: do not mount it
[03:15] <MarcN> jorock: I have an ati mobility rage something in this laptop.  breezey okay now that udev is working better.
[03:15] <DVSoftware> write image to /dev/fd
[03:15] <anthony> markg24 lo        no wireless extensions.
[03:16] <anthony> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[03:16] <anthony> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[03:16] <goose_boy> DVSoftware, i have have two regular files i have to put on a different floppy
[03:16] <ColonelKernel> wait a minute
[03:16] <markg24> anthony -- did you modprobe ndiswrapper?
[03:16] <anthony> when i try to do that it gives me a error message
[03:16] <ColonelKernel> does hoary use devfs and breezy use udev?
[03:16] <vader1102> dbzdeath,  it is in #flood inder the nick ksn
[03:16] <anthony> one sec i will send it to you
[03:16] <markg24> what error message?
[03:16] <delire> karen: when you installed gphoto2 you probably automatically installed 'libgphoto2-2' which contains a very large number of 'drivers' for dealing with many different cameras. ensure you have this, or a more recent version onboard.
[03:16] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: than use -t vfat i think
[03:16] <dbzdeath> say it again in flood vader1102 please
[03:16] <anthony> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:17] <vader1102> ok
[03:17] <leopard> dbzdeath: vader was relaying the message for me. The new info is:  usb 1-1.2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10
[03:17] <vader1102> dbzdeath, there ya go
[03:17] <dbzdeath> well it was detected
[03:18] <commrules> Finaly got ubunto to load, trying to install wireless & ethernet, when I installed ubuntu I did it with: nolapic apci=off , durring install it gave me a warning that my ethernet was disabled by me and therefore couldnt autodetect my wirless, I tried activating both ethernet & wireless to active, but i still have no internet
[03:18] <dbzdeath> vader1102: sudo fdisk -l
[03:18] <dbzdeath> see if it comes up anywhere
[03:18] <leopard> Yeah, just it seems to have no idea what the device is unforunately/
[03:18] <dbzdeath> leopard: yeah i was just thinking that...
[03:18] <vader1102> dbzdeath, talk to leopard he is the one I was talking about
[03:18] <anthony> markg24 any suggestions
[03:19] <dbzdeath> leopard: hmmm what device is it?
[03:19] <pc22> !tell pc22 about cups
[03:19] <leopard> dbzdeath: just my normal partitions. It's an iRiver H10 with the latest firmware update.
[03:19] <pc22> !tell pc22 about samba
[03:19] <karen> delire, how do I tell if the gphoto2 I installed from Synaptic has the cx7530 driver?
[03:19] <dbzdeath> hopefully just need to load the module
[03:19] <dbzdeath> leopard: ok h10... give me a sec
[03:19] <ColonelKernel> Anyone? does hoary use devfs and breezy use Udev and thats why vanilla 2.6.13+ kernels act fecally when I try them out?
[03:19] <boman_> !tell boman about samba
[03:20] <vader1102> !botsnack
[03:20] <ubotu> thanks vader1102 :)
[03:20] <leopard> dbzdeath: thanks.
[03:20] <delire> karen: check here http://www.gphoto.org/news/
[03:20] <DVSoftware> good nite ppl
[03:20] <dooglus> in bash, when I'm typing a command name, I can use TAB to complete it.  gnome-ter<TAB> expands to gnome-terminal.  but if I put "sudo" first, I can't get TAB to complete the sudo command.  is there a way?
[03:20] <delire> DVSoftware: night
[03:21] <dooglus> I want "sudo gnome-ter<TAB>" to expand to "sudo gnome-terminal"
[03:21] <karen> delire, cx7530 is listed on sf.net, but I am wondering what ver is in breezy repos
[03:21] <boxerboy29> how do you get rid of the ~ before the $ in the terminal?
[03:21] <dooglus> boxerboy29: that's your current directory.  you can get rid of it by "cd /"
[03:21] <anthony> ok any one want to help a guy with wireless problems
[03:21] <delire> karen: if i were you i'd just ensure that libghoto2 is installed (from gphoto2), plug in the camera and start gtkam or digikam.
[03:22] <boxerboy29> ty
[03:22] <dooglus> boxerboy29: or type PS1="$ "
[03:22] <jazzykay> anthony: what is the problem
[03:22] <dooglus> that'll give you a very minimal prompt
[03:22] <karen> delire, will do
[03:22] <commrules> is there a way to see the what failed/passed durring bootup of Ubuntu (I need to check what failed), im at the login screen now
[03:22] <delire> karen: a good trick for monitoring the system on a device level is 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog'
[03:22] <dooglus> commrules: I wish there was.
[03:22] <gach> hello my dear frinds
[03:23] <dbzdeath> leopard: paste the output of sudo lsmod in flood please
[03:23] <commrules> anthony: if your on a laptop, we all have wirless problems
[03:23] <delire> karen: not necessary but good for actually seeing what your kernel sees when you plug in the device.
[03:23] <dbzdeath> #flood even
[03:23] <anthony> jazzykay: well when ever i try to install the driver when i get to the modprobe ndiswrapper part it gives me an error
[03:23] <anthony> so there is no way to get it working
[03:23] <jazzykay> anthony: where did you install ndiswrapper from and what version are you running
[03:23] <dooglus> ColonelKernel: just ask :)
[03:23] <ColonelKernel> dooglus, does hoary use devfs and breezy use Udev and thats why vanilla 2.6.13+ kernels act fecally when I try them out?
[03:23] <ssdd65> how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port?
[03:23] <anthony> i installed it from source and a i have 1.3
[03:24] <gach> well ubuntu didnt recognize my soundcard
[03:24] <ColonelKernel> im using hoary now
[03:24] <gach> and i cant see alsaconf script
[03:24] <dooglus> ColonelKernel: as far as I remember they both use udev.
[03:24] <dbzdeath> leopard: actually ... what firmware
[03:24] <delire> ColonelKernel: i think udev is going to be hairy in Ubuntu (and especially on new kernels) until breezy moves out of beta and goes gold.
[03:24] <gach> so.... what can i do to configure sound again?
[03:24] <jazzykay> anthony: believe it or not.. i installed mine from synaptic and it worked for me pretty nicely
[03:24] <dbzdeath> leopard: european or american
[03:24] <ssdd65> how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port?
[03:24] <ColonelKernel> ugh - so I gotta stick to ubuntu sources for now
[03:25] <GhostFreeman> Where can I get an adblock file of sites with that annoying flash pop-up hack
[03:25] <jazzykay> anthony: what happens when you do an ndiswrapper -i driver ?
[03:25] <delire> ColonelKernel: is this a custom kernel?
[03:25] <anthony> it just gives me a list of all the options
[03:25] <gach> hey
[03:25] <jazzykay> anthony: do you have your wireless card driver cd?
[03:25] <anthony> yes
[03:25] <delire> GhostFreeman: if you're using FF use the extensions Flashblock and Adblock
[03:25] <gach> how can i reconfigure my sound card?
[03:25] <ColonelKernel> delire, yeah - but the config is fine, i am pretty good w getting kernels to work, 2.6.13+ dont have devfs or tmpfs so ubuntu has probs with them
[03:25] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: http://www.pierceive.com/ is good
[03:26] <jazzykay> anthony: i am using a linkysys wmp54g
[03:26] <anthony> i have the all the files including the inf file on my hard drive
[03:26] <ColonelKernel> delire, I can send or post my config if you'd like
[03:26] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: that's the home of filterset.g, a good list of adblock filters
[03:26] <leopard> dbdeath: 2.10 american
[03:26] <leopard> dbzdeath: posted lsmod in #flood
[03:26] <GhostFreeman> this will help
[03:26] <delire> ColonelKernel: well if you are using custom kernels you're on your own there! i also do this.
[03:26] <GhostFreeman> and i'll check out Flashblock
[03:26] <ssdd65> how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port
[03:26] <karen> delire, any chance of there being a .deb?  (I could apt...build-ess...  but ya know...)
[03:26] <delire> gach: no alsaconf in Ubuntu (as with debian).
[03:26] <jazzykay> anthony: so what happens when you type ndiswrapper -i location.of.driver/driver
[03:26] <commrules> anyoen know what nolapic or apci=off does? did it prevent ubunto from autodetecting my wireless card? I thought these two commands were to disable Battery,lcd lid closing, and other useless laptop features
[03:26] <dbzdeath> leopard: thats why... http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-62389.html read that... iriver i am disappointed... i have a h340 which has great linux support
[03:26] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: also, if you use firefox 1.50 beta, they've fixed the flash-popup hole
[03:26] <delire> karen: a deb of..?
[03:26] <ColonelKernel> delire, yeah its not the kernel .config tho, hoary isnt stoked with 2.6.13+ kernels
[03:27] <leopard> dbzdeath: I wonder if I can roll back the firmware. I think I remember at least seeing a scsi device before the upgrade...argh!
[03:27] <delire> ColonelKernel: no it's not..
[03:27] <karen> delire, current gphoto2
[03:27] <gach> so delire... what can i do to configure sound?
[03:27] <GhostFreeman> I'm tempted to
[03:27] <delire> ColonelKernel: it's a couple of versions ahead.
[03:27] <anthony> jazzykay: i get this                                                                                root@Anthony:/home/anthony # ndiswrapper -i /home/anthony/Windows Drivers/WLAN1/bcmwl5.inf
[03:27] <anthony> Usage: ndiswrapper OPTION
[03:27] <anthony> Manage ndis drivers for ndiswrapper.
[03:27] <anthony> -i inffile        Install driver described by 'inffile'
[03:27] <anthony> -d pciid driver   Use installed 'driver' for 'pciid'
[03:27] <GhostFreeman> but FF in Ubuntu is bad enough as is
[03:27] <anthony> -e driver         Remove 'driver'
[03:27] <anthony> -l                List installed drivers
[03:27] <anthony> -m                Write configuration for modprobe
[03:27] <anthony> -hotplug          (Re)Generate hotplug information
[03:27] <anthony> root@Anthony:/home/anthony #
[03:27] <robotgeek> anthony: don't [aste in here!
[03:27] <anthony> sorry
[03:27] <dbzdeath> leopard: the last post pointing to a thread on misticriver.net seems most relevant
[03:27] <anthony> why not
[03:27] <delire> karen: have you tried your camera with the current one? really things start to get unstable when using packages from debian unstable (which is where you'd end up ;)
[03:28] <robotgeek> !tell anthony about pastebin
[03:28] <ssdd65> how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port
[03:28] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: bad?
[03:28] <ColonelKernel> delire, everything else is so up to date though, at least compared to other distros, I hope breezy does better with them
[03:28] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: what's back with it?
[03:28] <jazzykay> anthony. i have the same card as you..
[03:28] <karen> delire, yup.  same thing.
[03:28] <vader1102> dbzdeath, thanx for helping him
[03:28] <GhostFreeman> it freezes up a lot on my end
[03:28] <delire> ColonelKernel: it will.
[03:28] <ColonelKernel> I might switch to gentoo if not
[03:28] <gach> how do i configure sound....
[03:28] <ColonelKernel> delire, thank the linux gods
[03:28] <delire> karen: ok so it's not working with the current gphoto
[03:28] <anthony> jazzykay: ok so what do you suggest i do
[03:28] <GhostFreeman> then again, i am on a 600MHz Celery with 256MB RAM
[03:28] <pc22> whats the <IP_ADDRESS> ---->> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently?
[03:28] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: I downloaded a 1.50 binary from mozilla.org and it's been fine.
[03:28] <commrules> what does nolapic or apci=off do?
[03:28] <delire> ColonelKernel: yes thank them ;)
[03:29] <GhostFreeman> I should check 1.5 out
[03:29] <jimurine> hey i can't run shell commands with superuser privelages in the terminal, there's no root password
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> my centos server is 2.6.14-rc1 and it runs great
[03:29] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: it seems to crash quite reliably when I quit it, but that's only once a day, so no big deal.
[03:29] <GhostFreeman> im using 1.0.5
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> I love using a really up to date kernel
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> i like compiling my own
[03:29] <gach> how do i reconfigure sound please!!!
[03:29] <leopard> dbzdeath: H10 Modding/Hacking?
[03:29] <robotgeek> !tell jimurine about sudo
[03:29] <jimurine> sudo?
[03:29] <karen> delire, I found http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/pool/main/g/gphoto2/ which has a deb dated after my camera was added - is that safe?
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> once you learn how to do it its like learning how to repair your own transmission
[03:29] <delire> karen: do this 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' and plug in the camera.
[03:29] <jack-> sudo su -
[03:29] <jack-> ;p
[03:30] <vader1102> gach, just give them a few, if they kbow, they will answer
[03:30] <dbzdeath> leopard: Devices running UMS firmware are compatible with generic USB Mass Storage drivers <--- you want the UMS firmware... http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=14853 <--- thats a howto
[03:30] <dooglus> ColonelKernel: or rather it's like learning how to go to #garage and beg for help :)
[03:30] <newbling> anyone got a link to download ndiswrapper?
[03:30] <delire> karen: well no, it's from an external repository. best to stick with Ubuntu or compile from source. it will mess up your dependencies.
[03:30] <dbzdeath> leopard: UMS firmware has disadvantages which are addressed in that thread
[03:30] <jazzykay> anthony: here is the url i used: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:30] <ColonelKernel> no way!
[03:30] <gach> thnks vader
[03:30] <leopard> dbzdeath: thanks a million.
[03:30] <jazzykay> i would try the ndiswrapper avaiable from synaptic.
[03:30] <vader1102> gach, yw
[03:30] <anthony> i need to know how to get rid of a alias directive
[03:30] <gach> HOW DO I RECONFIGURE SOUND PLEase!!!
[03:30] <delire> gach: what is not working?
[03:30] <ColonelKernel> ive had 2 glasses of wine in the last 3 hours and im drunk.
[03:31] <robotgeek> karen: better to compile from source, and install a checkinstall deb. it's safer than a debian binary!
[03:31] <jazzykay> make sure your driver and you have the right privielege
[03:31] <dbzdeath> leopard: your welcome.. good luck
[03:31] <Xenguy> Hey, can anyone tell me what the blurb at the top of /etc/X11/xorg.conf means?  If find it a bit unclear; all I want to do is hand-edit the file and see if it helps my 'ugly font' problem. Anyone?
[03:31] <jazzykay> i think they recommend sudo -s from the command line..
[03:31] <karen> delire, last line of i/var/log/syslog s libgphoto2: loaded successfully
[03:31] <jack-> sudo su -
[03:31] <gach> delire... my sound card.. does not get detected
[03:31] <anthony> how do i know if i have the right privielege
[03:31] <delire> gach: there is no configuration script for sound in ubuntu, nothing like alsaconfig..
[03:31] <gach> i repeat
[03:31] <jack-> problem solved
[03:31] <karen> nothing else very interesting
[03:31] <gach> does not get detected
[03:31] <anthony> ok
[03:31] <delire> gach: right.. lspci. what is the card?
[03:32] <gach> so delire... what should i do
[03:32] <newbling> I have an intel pro/2200bg, should ubuntu autodetect my wireless?
[03:32] <Xenguy> jack-: sudo -s is the recommended method IIRC
[03:32] <gach> is a sis 7018
[03:32] <leopard> doh: dialup at home...until Tuesday, gawd this is slow...
[03:32] <robotgeek> Xenguy: it's just about how to generate that file again. back up xorg.conf somewhere, and edit at will
[03:32] <delire> karen: right good. do you see the name of your camera in the output?
[03:32] <Xenguy> robotgeek: hrm
[03:32] <karen> delire, nope
[03:32] <jack-> xenguy, ok..but it has its disadantages
[03:32] <delire> karen: ok, regardless, just start up gtkam or digikam and see if it works.
[03:32] <anthony> sudo -s didnt work
[03:32] <vinboy> hi
[03:32] <nba> hello everybody
[03:32] <gach> it always recognizes it
[03:33] <nba> sos pls
[03:33] <vinboy> how do I disbale the window maximise and minimise animation
[03:33] <leopard> dbzdeath: I'm going to revert it back to 1.00, I think I at least remember seeing a SCSI device then.
[03:33] <anthony> it said i cant excute binary file
[03:33] <Xenguy> robotgeek: OK, so I'll backup the file of course, but can I then just edit, save, and re-start X ?
[03:33] <delire> gach: modprobe -l | grep snd
[03:33] <gach> but... somehow i think i pressed esc when the detection program was running
[03:33] <karen> delire, I don't have gtkam or digikam
[03:33] <gach> and maybe that was it
[03:33] <Xenguy> jack-: any major disadvantage?
[03:33] <dbzdeath> leopard: ah ok well you should google and see if reverting firmware can cause any problems
[03:33] <robotgeek> Xenguy: yup
[03:33] <cute_bettong> ok i updated the last day or so and now something happend and i get a blue screen
[03:33] <bimberi> anthony: unalias <whatever>
[03:33] <dbzdeath> maybe just search misticriver.net
[03:33] <cute_bettong> and i can't get into my desktop
[03:33] <delire> karen: right, install one or the other. the first is gtk based, the second, KDE or qt based.
[03:33] <cute_bettong> how to fix
[03:33] <cute_bettong> and it's breezy
[03:34] <nba> just installed ubuntu
[03:34] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: if u use gnome, did u try a different wm?
[03:34] <Xenguy> robotgeek: and is there a danger of it being overwritten during a subsequent upgrade, or other risks?
[03:34] <jazzykay> anythony: you could not sudo -s from a terminal to bring up a root prompt?
[03:34] <karen> off we go...
[03:34] <delire> karen: these appications are fairly 'automagical' with cameras.
[03:34] <cute_bettong> xserver is broken
[03:34] <robotgeek> Xenguy: it doesnt touch it if you customize it
[03:34] <karen> yea for magic
[03:34] <jack-> xenguy: the timeout for example
[03:34] <nba> i can't play yahoo launchcast radio
[03:34] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: oops
[03:34] <newbling> whats wpa?
[03:34] <Xenguy> robotgeek: I see - thanks for clarifying
[03:34] <cute_bettong> and yes but i don't want to polloute my menus in gnome
[03:34] <gach> delire..
[03:34] <jack-> after 5 mins or so, you're not root anymore
[03:34] <delire> gach: do you have the drivers for the card loaded?
[03:34] <gach> delire i got all the kernel drivers
[03:34] <Xenguy> jack-: ah, OK, I see what you mean
[03:34] <cute_bettong> so i kinda don't wanna install fluxbox
[03:34] <robotgeek> nba: AFAIK, you can't. active X required
[03:34] <jimurine> !tell jimurine XFree86Config
[03:35] <jack-> i prefer a permanent root shell, if i need one
[03:35] <delire> gach: go to alsa-project.org and check in the card database to ensure it is supported.
[03:35] <jack-> too confusing with that sudo shit
[03:35] <Xenguy> jack-: me too actually
[03:35] <cute_bettong> and it's now whining about some sorta sound int error
[03:35] <jazzykay> jack: you can enable root but it is not recommened
[03:35] <robotgeek> jack-: it's not confusing
[03:35] <jimurine> where's the XFree86Config file at again? /etc/X11...?
[03:35] <delire> gach: 'play /path/to/a/sound.wav' doesn't work?
[03:35] <vinboy> hi guys
[03:35] <vinboy> is ther ea way to convert ntfs to ext3?
[03:35] <Xenguy> jack-: actually I meant a real root account (set in my ways I guess :-)
[03:35] <cute_bettong> so can someone help me get gnome back up?
[03:35] <robotgeek> jimurine: it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:35] <gach> delire... i dont have the mixer applet
[03:35] <jack-> jazzykay i know, i did ;p
[03:35] <psusi> I'm trying to set up the raw device to do some hard disk benchmarks with dd but when I ask dd to read from the raw device with a block size that is a multiple of the sector size, it says /dev/raw0: invalid argument... what gives?
[03:35] <nba> how will i do that robotgeek
[03:35] <robotgeek> Xenguy: there's a reason why there's a sudo
[03:36] <gach> delire so i guess i dont have the modules loaded
[03:36] <robotgeek> nba: you can't
[03:36] <jimurine> oh xorg, ok thanks
[03:36] <jazzykay> gach: check if you have oss/alsa/esd in your perferences/multimedia systems selector
[03:36] <gach> delire is there a way to run ubuntu's hardware detection again=
[03:36] <gach> ?
[03:36] <jazzykay> jack: :-) good for yah
[03:36] <Xenguy> robotgeek: I've read the web site blurb, and it seems to be a moot point
[03:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so is there some way to fix the gnome problem with xserver?
[03:36] <nalioth> vinboy: it's easy to convert ntfs to ext3. the trick is, no data survives
[03:36] <Xenguy> robotgeek: but to each their own
[03:36] <delire> gach: not really..
[03:36] <johndavid> im installing the Nvidia drivers and i need to know how to kill the X serv?
[03:36] <galgo> cual es el canal en espaol
[03:36] <robotgeek> Xenguy: :)
[03:37] <robotgeek> galgo: #ubuntu-es
[03:37] <nba> u mean i can't play launchcast radio robotgeek?
[03:37] <delire> gach: what is the name of your card again?
[03:37] <Bicchi> there used to be a guide for ubuntu but i can not find it. does anyone knows the website. it was www.ubuntuguide.com i think
[03:37] <robotgeek> nba: yup :(
[03:37] <jazzykay> jonhdavid : CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[03:37] <nba> why
[03:37] <dooglus> Bicchi: it's down
[03:37] <dooglus> Bicchi: they're moving, or something.
[03:37] <johndavid> doesnt that just log me out?
[03:37] <delire> gach: quick, it's late here.
[03:37] <jimurine> is it init 5 that closes X and goes to command prompt?
[03:37] <jazzykay> no.. it kills you x session and restarts it
[03:37] <robotgeek> nba: complain to yahoo! active x is windows only
[03:37] <Bicchi> dooglus: are they part of ubuntu or is it a different entity?
[03:37] <johndavid> i need to kill the X serv in order to install the nvidia drivers
[03:37] <nba> i see
[03:38] <nba> thanks
[03:38] <jazzykay> if you use synaptic you don't
[03:38] <jimurine> johndavid: me too so let's listen up
[03:38] <dooglus> Bicchi: it's an independant site.  many here seem to dislike it, since it just gives 'recipes' without any understanding.
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[03:38] <jimurine> !tell jimurine init
[03:38] <jazzykay> i used snaptic to get mine and i was in my gui :-)
[03:38] <robotgeek> nba: though, you can try funky stuff with wine, but i havent done that. can't help u there!
[03:38] <mindframe> anyone know why my junk filters dont work in thunderbird in ubuntu?  ive configured it the exact same way as i had it in windows.
[03:38] <jazzykay> let me get you the howto from wiki
[03:38] <dooglus> johndavid: run "sudo telinit 1" in a shell?
[03:38] <karen> im sad.  gtkam, add camera lists the cx7530, but it is still sad
[03:38] <dooglus> johndavid: that will close everything and take you to single user mode
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so anyone have any idea whats going on with xserver and gnome?
[03:39] <delire> gach: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-SiS#matrix
[03:39] <jazzykay> here is the wiki i used: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[03:39] <johndavid> so i need to run level 1 not 3?
[03:39] <nba> robotgeek: is there other radio station supported by ubuntu?
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and how to help me?
[03:39] <delire> karen: what does 'sad' mean. more info..
[03:39] <dooglus> johndavid: "telinit 2" to get gdm running again
[03:39] <johndavid> k ill try it
[03:39] <johndavid> thanks
[03:39] <johndavid> brb
[03:39] <delire> karen: hate to be such a robot, but it will help ;)
[03:39] <dooglus> johndavid: in ubuntu levels 2 and 3 are the same, unfortunately
[03:39] <dooglus> johndavid: in a sane system, 2 would be command line and 3 would be gdm
[03:39] <nba> robotgeek: we're testing our newly installed ubuntu here
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brb
[03:39] <dooglus> johndavid: but ubuntu has gdm in 2 and 3
[03:40] <Deekin> Anyone know why Firefox doesn't want to start on the liveCD version? It'll try to load, then stop and I don't see the PID in TOP. I had it open before and closed it - I'd hate to resetart the session
[03:40] <nba> robotheek: we can't play mp3 either
[03:40] <robotgeek>  nba shoutcast
[03:40] <leopard> dbzdeath: Got it!!! All I had to do was remove the battery for a minute, hold down the O key and then turn the puppy on, up came the /media/usbdisk -- Thanks!!!
[03:40] <nba> robotgeek: wats the website
[03:40] <robotgeek> nba: www.shoutcast.com
[03:41] <nba> robotgeek: thanks a lot
[03:42] <karen> delire, in "Add camear" is model: kodak cx7530 - I hit "apply" and get "could not initialize the camera"
[03:42] <cafuego_> Deekin; Run it from a terminal, check output.
[03:42] <commrules> I have an Intel Pro/Wireless 2200bg, is this equivalent to ipw2200? or am i better off installin ndiswrapper? <<
[03:43] <delire> karen: with some cameras you need to set them in PC mode, or turn them off (believe it or not).
[03:43] <cute_bettong> no it won't let me into fluxbox either
[03:43] <cute_bettong> i have text only
[03:43] <cute_bettong> >.<
[03:43] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: check /var/log/xorg.log.0 or something
[03:43] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: or .xsession-errors
[03:43] <delire> karen: try running gtkam using sudo. eg 'sudo gtkam'. this will ensure there aren't permissions problems at work here.
[03:44] <cute_bettong> something is wrong it goes to the invidia logo and then kicks back into the text and repeats the same sequince a few times
[03:44] <Gorth> hey guys!
[03:44] <cute_bettong> and then has an xserver errpr
[03:44] <delire> commrules: yes it is
[03:44] <cute_bettong> error even
[03:44] <Gorth> what's a good program for making ISOs?
[03:44] <delire> commrules: i have this same card.
[03:44] <Gorth> or BINs or whatever
[03:44] <cute_bettong> i have no gui capabilitys whatso ever >.<
[03:44] <cafuego_> cute_bettong: Yeah, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lines atrting with (EE)
[03:44] <karen> delire, how come lsusb doesn't show it?  and yet something knows a camera is plugged in cuz the "import photos" dialog comes up when I plug it in
[03:44] <cute_bettong> ok
[03:44] <commrules> delire: is there any disadvantage to using ndiswrapper vs. ipw2200?
[03:44] <cafuego_> Gorth: mkisofs ?
[03:44] <cute_bettong> how do i do that from text mode
[03:44] <Gorth> thanks cafuego!
[03:44] <cute_bettong> i'm not used to this
[03:44] <goose_boy> hey where is azureus? its not in the repos?
[03:44] <robotgeek> prot0col had the same error, i think. maybe, even an error on bugzilla
[03:45] <cafuego_> commrules: Yes, ndiswrapper is satan, ipw220 is not.
[03:45] <delire> commrules: ndiswrapper really sucks and you'll miss out on alot of the ipw2200 goodness. i run debian on my laptop with the ipw2200 using the ipw2200.sf.net drivers.
[03:45] <Deekin> Cafuego: bin] $ ./firefox
[03:45] <Deekin> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent?
[03:45] <Deekin> System error?:: No such file or directory
[03:45] <delire> karen: strange yes..
[03:45] <delire> karen: try running 'gphoto2' from the command line. anything?
[03:46] <karen> delire, big page of help
[03:46] <delire> karen: make that 'gphoto2 --summary'
[03:46] <dooglus> I asked earlier how to get commands after 'sudo' on the command line to complete in bash.  I found out.  You run: "complete -c sudo" in your .bashrc
[03:46] <lui> hi guys
[03:46] <Gorth> erm
[03:46] <cafuego_> Deekin: Check the plugins dirs for java related crud, then remove them.
[03:46] <goose_boy> where do i get azeurus?
[03:46] <Gorth> does mkisofs make an ISO from an already existing CD?
[03:46] <karen> *** Error (-105: 'Unknown model') ***
[03:47] <cafuego_> Gorth: No, you do that using 'dd'.
[03:47] <Deekin> cafuego: hmmm, ok....*wanders off to Moz dir...*
[03:47] <delire> karen: it's not detected.
[03:47] <Gorth> ah
[03:47] <mindframe> anyone know why my junk filters dont work in thunderbird in ubuntu?  ive configured it the exact same way as i had it in windows.
[03:47] <Gorth> thatnks cafuego_!
[03:47] <cafuego_> Gorth: dd if=/dev/hdc of=foo.iso
[03:47] <lui> can I see my linux hda1 from the live cd?
[03:47] <delire> karen: ok.. have you used this camera on windows/OSX?
[03:47] <vinboy> is ext3 better than ext2?
[03:47] <karen> yes.  works in win98
[03:47] <nalioth> mindframe: have you trained it?
[03:47] <cafuego_> hit return, wait, done. Does not work for Audio CDs.
[03:47] <karen> untll win98 bit it ;)
[03:47] <dooglus> vinboy: ext3 is the same as ext2 but with journaling added.  it's better.
[03:47] <cafuego_> vinboy: No. It's also not worse.
[03:48] <delire> karen: hmm well it will work in Linux.. a canon?
[03:48] <mindframe> nalioth, yes ive been trying to, but it seems like its taking so damn long.  it wont learn anything.
[03:48] <vinboy> cool
[03:48] <lui> cafuego_, hello man, can you help me?
[03:48] <dooglus> vinboy: but reiserfs is what you really need :)
[03:48] <cafuego_> lui: yes, you can see hda1 from the livecd. Just mount it.
[03:48] <nalioth> mindframe: if you have your windows t-bird user setting directory, .....
[03:48] <delire> karen: can you 'sudo modprobe usbcore && depmod -ae' for me?
[03:48] <jazzykay> reiserfs... two minds on that..
[03:48] <cafuego_> vinboy: don't listen to dooglus
[03:48] <vinboy> dooglus, really??.. but how do i get that???
[03:48] <delire> karen: sorry 'sudo depmod -ae'
[03:48] <vinboy> cafuego,  lol
[03:48] <jazzykay> i never liked it
[03:48] <dooglus> vinboy: don't listen to me
[03:49] <cafuego_> reiserfs is not actually very fast AND it fails a lot.
[03:49] <vinboy> ok ok
[03:49] <lui> cafuego_, like sudo mount /dev/hda1?
[03:49] <dooglus> cafuego_: it does not!
[03:49] <jazzykay> vinboy: read up on both and find out which one you want
[03:49] <goose_boy> i cant find Azureus in synaptic?
[03:49] <vinboy> k
[03:49] <vinboy> i'll google it
[03:49] <goose_boy> where can i get it?
[03:49] <karen> delire, so sudo modprobe usbcore && depmod -ae ?
[03:49] <cafuego_> lui Yeah, except add a mount point and filesystem type. (man mount)
[03:49] <dooglus> vinboy: reiserfs is built into the kernel, just like ext2 and ext3
[03:49] <cafuego_> vinboy: ext3 is invariably the preferred FS for desktop Linux installs.
[03:49] <delire> karen: should be *sudo depmod -ae
[03:49] <lui> cafuego_, ok
[03:50] <jazzykay> goose_boy: azureus uses java so i believe it was not bundled.. some people who have been using it longer may give another story
[03:50] <vinboy> ok.. thanks guys
[03:50] <karen> delire, done.
[03:50] <jazzykay> vinboy: if this is the first time.. stay with ext3 :-)
[03:50] <delire> karen: now try 'sudo gtkam' and see what happens
[03:51] <vinboy> yup i'm a newbie here
[03:51] <jazzykay> goose_boy: google azureus and download it after you have java running
[03:51] <nba_> robotgeek: sorry dc
[03:51] <dooglus> vinboy: there's a discussion here: http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/3726/1/
[03:51] <nba_> our musicplayer can't play mp3
[03:52] <karen> delire, it detected it and I got pics!
[03:52] <delire> karen: great ;)
[03:53] <jazzykay> anyone play with installing icon themes in gnome?
[03:53] <goose_boy> do you thin KDE might be better envornment for someone that is new to linux from windows
[03:53] <delire> karen: it may be you need to have usbcore loaded. also ensure you use sudo with gtkam for the time being.
[03:53] <robotgeek> tell nba_ about mp3
[03:53] <robotgeek> !tell nba_ about mp3
[03:53] <karen> delire, ok, so im in breezy (i know... i now...)  think there is a bug in here?
[03:53] <jazzykay> goose_boy: i like kde and gnome both are very nice and easy.
[03:53] <cute_bettong> ok here is what the error says
[03:53] <bimberi> ubotu tell goose_boy about azureus
[03:53] <delire> karen: yes, likely. breezy is still 'beta'.
[03:53] <jazzykay> goose_boy: stay away from fluxbox, enlightenment till later
[03:54] <thewayofzen> anyone else having trouble connecting to  www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell goose_boy about hoary-extras
[03:54] <cute_bettong> Fatal Server Error: failes to initialize core deveices
[03:54] <thewayofzen> is it gone for good.. will it be back.. etc?
[03:54] <jazzykay> i did last night.. but i can connect with a windows box no issues
[03:54] <nba_> robotgeek: our musicplayer can't play mp3
[03:54] <nba_> robotgeek: wat seems the problem
[03:54] <ouroboros> anyone can possibly help with amd64 + hoary || trying to get direct rendering enabled on a.......a...... All in Wonder pro 128 (Rage128) - [noob tears]
[03:54] <cute_bettong> and theres a few mouse things with (ee)in front
[03:54] <robotgeek> nba_: please read the link which ubotu sent you
[03:54] <ColonelKernel> ouroboros, old school card
[03:54] <cute_bettong> but those are in regards to the mouse
[03:54] <ouroboros> def
[03:55] <ouroboros> waiting for $$$ for SLI 6800 (yeah right)
[03:55] <sproingie> nothing wrong with a rage 128 if you want a tv tuner card or decent 2d
[03:55] <ouroboros> indeed!
[03:55] <ouroboros> that's the spirit
[03:55] <ColonelKernel> nothing wrong w it at all
[03:55] <newbling> anyone here get ipw2200 to work? I typed $ sudo dmesg | grep ipw , and it returned ipw2220: intel pro/wireless 2200/2815 newtork driver, 0.19 ..bla..blaa ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill switch is on    . But when i type iwconfig , it finds eth1 no wirless extensions   ?? how do i get wireles to work
[03:55] <ouroboros> hmm, but how-to install such an ancient card?
[03:55] <jazzykay> ubuntuguide is down right now for me too
[03:55] <delire> karen: i would say that if you are having problems of this kind after breezy goes 'gold', inform the developers and formally register a bug.
[03:55] <ColonelKernel> my server has a gf4mx440 and a bttv card - theres nothing wrong with sticking with what works
[03:55] <ouroboros> ubuntuguide.org has been down for days!
[03:55] <robotgeek> newbling: can u post your 'dmesg" output to the pastebin
[03:55] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[03:55] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:55] <cute_bettong> and thats the only thing that /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:55] <tritium> newbling, ipw2200 support in breezy is greatly improved over hoary
[03:55] <delire> karen: but for now, the problem is solveable.
[03:55] <goose_boy> is suns java packaged too?
[03:55] <cute_bettong> says
[03:55] <ColonelKernel> I didnt mean old school as a negative thing
[03:56] <delire> anyway, i'm out. good luck all.
[03:56] <jazzykay> the mirror site for ubuntuguide is up
[03:56] <ouroboros> indeed
[03:56] <ouroboros> olesk00l
[03:56] <ouroboros> [beers]
[03:56] <sproingie> ye olde sk00l
[03:56] <ouroboros> back when KDE Was "Just released!"
[03:56] <ColonelKernel> surprisingly enough, the gf4mx440 runs things like et just fine and it does overlay properly , unlike my gf6600
[03:57] <nba_> robotgeek: is there an online help re: office org
[03:57] <ouroboros> hmm
[03:57] <ouroboros> ColonelKernel: that bites in ways
[03:57] <sinned> Hello
[03:57] <cute_bettong> so can anyone help?
[03:57] <ColonelKernel> ouroboros, it really does
[03:57] <sinned> Can anyone help me setup 3d acceleration with an ATI card?
[03:57] <sinned> i've tried all of the guides
[03:57] <sinned> and nothing is working
[03:57] <ouroboros> sinned what card?
[03:57] <sinned> 9600xt
[03:58] <ouroboros> ooo
[03:58] <sinned> I had the thing setup before
[03:58] <sinned> But I can't remember what I did
[03:58] <ouroboros> lmao
[03:58] <sinned> :/
[03:58] <ColonelKernel> the ati 9800 pro did the same thing with overlay the 6600 does - I guess they use the 3d processor for doing overlay instead of the 2d stuff like they used to do
[03:58] <sinned> I had it setup and was playing wow and shit on it
[03:58] <ouroboros> I had amarok running on my last ubuntu hoary install...now the damn thing opens but no sound
[03:58] <robotgeek> nba_: try google, there are forums. dunno the link right now. plus, there should be a help file in open office
[03:58] <ColonelKernel> I discovered it using mplayer with xv
[03:58] <ouroboros> sinned: you hit up the ubuntuforums?
[03:58] <tritium> sinned, you followed the BinaryDriverHowto ?
[03:58] <sinned> Yes tritium
[03:58] <sinned> Didn't work
[03:59] <nba_> robotgeek: yeah there is
[03:59] <tritium> in what way?
[03:59] <ouroboros> hmm, makes sense ColonelKernel
[03:59] <sinned> Then I tried using the guide for the ati drivers from ati's site
[03:59] <Xenguy> 'Ugly font' problem solved:  all I had to do was drop the colour in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from 24 to 16
[03:59] <Xenguy> bwahaha
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> ouroboros, scary stuff though - it even does it in windows so I know its a hardware thing
[03:59] <sinned> tritium, sinned@spartan:~$ fglrxinfo
[03:59] <sinned> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:59] <sinned> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:59] <nba_> robotgeek: but i ahve prob encounterd in printing
[03:59] <robotgeek> nba_: are you on breezy?
[03:59] <newbling> where is pastebin?
[03:59] <ouroboros> mmm, they planned to conquer the world with their flashy 3d technology
[03:59] <nba_> robotgeek: wat u mean
[04:00] <ouroboros> and they're hip scalable link interfaces
[04:00] <robotgeek> nba_: what version of ubuntu linux are u using?
[04:00] <ouroboros> they're = their too
[04:00] <ColonelKernel> hell, if breezy can handle a 2.6.13+ kernel, i'll use the preview release until its released
[04:00] <robotgeek> !tell newbling about pastebin
[04:00] <newbling> Can i upgrade to breezy from 5.04?
[04:00] <newbling> or do i have to reinstall
[04:00] <tritium> yes, newbling
[04:00] <ColonelKernel> newbling, thats a downgrade
[04:00] <nba_> robotgeek: 5.04
[04:01] <lui> cafuego_, I upgraded to breezy but now at the time to login the keyboard doesn't write nothing, like not working but it is working, you know what could be?
[04:01] <newbling> i thought breezy was 5.10
[04:01] <goose_boy> hmm does anyone have a lexmark z23?
[04:01] <goose_boy> for some reason it doesnt print
[04:01] <ouroboros> Bahahahaha! http://www.mega64.com/rcr.mpg
[04:01] <sproingie> ouroboros: i think for dri you need to compile support into your kernel
[04:02] <Deekin> vafuego: I yanked out javaplugin_oji.so from the plugins directory but no luck. Heck its easier to reboot it at this point :)
[04:02] <cute_bettong> so anyone know why my xserver is busted based on what i said earlyer?
[04:02] <robotgeek> nba_: doesn't print to where?
[04:02] <ouroboros> oh man don't tell me that, sproingie
[04:02] <lui> newbling, you can but wait breezy to be stable next month
[04:02] <bob2> newbling: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:02] <Deekin> cafuego, rather, sorry
[04:02] <tritium> sinned, are you sure you followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[04:02] <ouroboros> there's no uh, vi /etc/ati/.conf and added 1 instead of 0 for this?
[04:02] <nba_> robotgeek: it does print but not at my specified area
[04:03] <sinned> Very sure tritium
[04:03] <nba_> robotgeek: specifically the lower part of the paper
[04:03] <lui> If anybody can help me:  I upgraded to breezy but now at the time to login the keyboard doesn't write nothing, like not working but it is working, you know what could be?
[04:03] <robotgeek> nba_: i dunno much, please refer to the forums :(
[04:03] <nba_> robotgeek: ok, thanks anyway
[04:03] <cute_bettong> i need to get my xserver back up and my gui
[04:04] <paulproteus> Anyone here running the Eclipse IDE on Breezy or Hoary on AMD64?
[04:04] <tritium> cute_bettong, what's the problem?
[04:04] <paulproteus> It doesn't pick up my Sun JDK when I enter it.
[04:05] <commrules> wierd, if I log in as root, should the password be the same one as your normal login, for some reason mine isnt and i just installed ubuntu
[04:05] <cute_bettong> tritium i installed the updates on my box
[04:05] <commrules> should=shouldnt
[04:05] <sproingie> i've never convinced java-package to recognize a recent jdk, so i always install java stuff manually
[04:05] <goose_boy> my printer just spits out a blank page when i try to print a test page with it
[04:05] <tritium> !tell commrules about rootsudo
[04:05] <cute_bettong> tritium: and they did something to it
[04:05] <memin> Hello I need help installing gtk+2.7.5 in ubuntu 5.10 can someone help?
[04:05] <cute_bettong> tritium: so when i rebooted it did somehing to xserver
[04:06] <tritium> cute_bettong, are you running breezy?
[04:06] <cute_bettong> tritium: and it screwd it up so i have text only and that is it
[04:06] <cute_bettong> tritium: yes
[04:06] <ksmurf> sorry for such a bad question but does anyone know of a repo for w32codecs?
[04:06] <bob2> memin: why do you think you need that specific version?
[04:06] <tritium> cute_bettong, udev was broken, but is now fixed.
[04:06] <Turicas> i want to configure a command to be executed when i type key? (i want to configure it in X, dont in wm)
[04:06] <tritium> Did you update to the latest packages, cute_bettong ?
[04:06] <ksmurf> That they will share?
[04:06] <cute_bettong> tritium: ok how do i get that so every thing works again
[04:07] <bob2> Turicas: X doesn't do that sort of thing, sorry
[04:07] <tritium> cute_bettong, just upgrade
[04:07] <lui> If anybody can help me:  I upgraded to breezy but now at the time to login the keyboard doesn't write nothing, like not working but it is working, you know what could be?
[04:07] <cute_bettong> tritium: how
[04:07] <tritium> cute_bettong, perhaps you should not be running breezy if you don't know how.
[04:07] <cute_bettong> tritium: i'm tryin to learn so this is good for me
[04:08] <cute_bettong> tritium: i am running it becuase a freind said it was ok to go from horey
[04:08] <tritium> cute_bettong, okay, sudo aptitude update, followed by sudo aptitude upgrade
[04:08] <tritium> that's hoary ;)
[04:08] <sinned> Omg this is so fucking fusterating
[04:08] <kairu0> lui, is that an english keyboard?
[04:08] <bimberi> dist-upgrade?
[04:08] <Turicas> bob2, uhm..and do you know how i can configure it in xfce?
[04:08] <sinned> I've tried every guide I could find
[04:08] <memin> bob2 I am trying to install clearlooks-cairo theme it says that i need gtk+2.7.or =>
[04:08] <sinned> Nothing
[04:08] <cute_bettong> tritium: ok sorry just trying here
[04:09] <dennis__> Grrr
[04:09] <tritium> cute_bettong, lui: please make sure you have the latest udev package installed
[04:09] <cute_bettong> tritium: at least i'll have this knowledge in the future
[04:09] <dennis__> Fuck ati and its shitty drivers
[04:09] <goose_boy> hey in gaim msn, can i use the voice talk feature?
[04:09] <kairu0> amen
[04:09] <robotgeek> dennis__: language, but amen!
[04:09] <goose_boy> or is that not available under gaim?
[04:09] <robotgeek> goose_boy: nope
[04:09] <cute_bettong> tritium: and thank you for your help i really apriciate it
[04:09] <dennis__> I got this to work about 3 weeks ago
[04:09] <dennis__> But I formatted
[04:09] <lui> kairu0, nope, latin america
[04:09] <bob2> memin: so, install libgtk2.0-dev
[04:09] <dennis__> and can't get it to work again
[04:09] <bob2> Turicas: no, sorry
[04:10] <tritium> sure, cute_bettong.  The version for udev should be 0.060-1ubuntu14
[04:10] <goose_boy> damn
[04:10] <kairu0> lui, did you set that keyboard during the install?
[04:10] <dennis__> I've tried everything
[04:10] <dennis__> The binarydriverhowto...the guides in the forum
[04:10] <dennis__> And nothing works :/
[04:10] <bob2> ignore the forums
[04:10] <dennis__> sinned@spartan:~$ fglrxinfo
[04:10] <dennis__> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:10] <dennis__> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[04:10] <dennis__> GRRR
[04:10] <bob2> er
[04:10] <bob2> that's pretty trivial
[04:10] <dennis__> ?
[04:10] <bob2> you didn't load the right driver in your xorg.conf
[04:11] <dennis__> yes I did
[04:11] <tritium> fglrx?
[04:11] <lui> kairu0, it is set, I checked the xorg. conf
[04:11] <dennis__> Yup
[04:11] <bob2> then show us your entire config file
[04:11] <dennis__> k
[04:11] <robotgeek> dennis__: use the pastebin
[04:11] <dennis__> I know
[04:11] <kairu0> lui, is it a usb keyboard?
[04:11] <robotgeek> dennis__: :)
[04:12] <Toma-> anyone know how to set the gtk engine th kde?
[04:12] <lui> kairu0, nope, ps/2
[04:12] <dennis__> http://pastebin.com/370578
[04:12] <tritium> lui, was it working before an upgrade yesterday?
[04:12] <kairu0> lui, does your mouse work?
[04:13] <newbling> so i can upgrade hoary to breezy by following these instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes ?
[04:13] <thewayofzen> anyone know when w32codecs were removed from the repos and is there another place to get em?
[04:13] <tritium> yes, newbling
[04:13] <bob2> dennis__: and your X log
[04:13] <Gobbla> no that is for building a nuclear bomb..
[04:13] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ torrents
[04:13] <lui> kairu0, yes it works. tritium, it was, and it's working now
[04:13] <bob2> thewayofzen: a few days ago
[04:13] <dennis__> wheres the xlog located?
[04:13] <tritium> !tell thewayofzen about w32codecs
[04:13] <bob2> thewayofzen: you really can't find the .deb using google?
[04:13] <robotgeek> !tell me about w32codecs
[04:14] <jack-> !tell jack- about w32codecs
[04:14] <memin> bob2 it wont workcbob2 it worked but now I am getting a new error--->config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in
[04:14] <dennis__> bob2, where is the xlog file located?
[04:14] <bob2> memin: then the source tree is broken
[04:14] <thewayofzen> okee.. ill do that then.
[04:14] <bob2> dennis__: /var/log
[04:14] <bob2> memin: or you forgot to run autogen.sh
[04:14] <dennis__> and its called xorg.log?
[04:14] <mindframe> how do i mount a usb flash drive?
[04:14] <memin> bob2 no I didn't know I hat to run it
[04:14] <tritium> Xorg.0.log
[04:14] <dennis__> k thanks
[04:15] <robotgeek> mindframe: just plug it in, and it should mount to /media/<label>
[04:15] <bob2> memin: then read the instructions
[04:15] <robotgeek> mindframe: if u are using gnome
[04:15] <Toma-> ubotu: how do i set gtk?
[04:15] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Toma-
[04:15] <Toma-> damn you
[04:15] <memin> there are no instructions
[04:15] <dennis__> bob2, http://pastebin.com/370579
[04:15] <tritium> memin, no README?
[04:15] <goose_boy> do you think KDE might be better for a windows newbie than gnome
[04:15] <mindframe> robotgeek, im not.
[04:15] <Toma-> goose_boy: yes
[04:16] <mindframe> goose_boy, i would say yes, it has a mac-osx type feel
[04:16] <memin> aI am following this this article http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145&page=2
[04:16] <Deekin> Goose_Boy, I believe it is simply a matter of preference
[04:16] <robotgeek> mindframe: hmmm.. pmount /dev/sda1 <mount point>
[04:16] <memin> Bob2 I am following this this article http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145&page=2
[04:16] <jack-> xfce is even better if you really want the windows feeling
[04:16] <bob2> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[04:16] <bob2> dennis__: ^
[04:16] <Deekin> goose_Boy: I happen to like KDE - many others like Gnome
[04:16] <dennis__> :o
[04:17] <dennis__> How do I fix that :/
[04:17] <bob2> dennis__: you installed broken drivers from outside ubuntu
[04:17] <bob2> memin: then its missing steps
[04:17] <Deekin> or Enlightenment or a dozen others
[04:17] <dennis__> I installed the ones from ati.com
[04:17] <dennis__> then they didn't work
[04:17] <tritium> chame chame
[04:17] <memin> can you tell me the steps
[04:17] <dennis__> so I installed the ones from the binary guide
[04:17] <Deekin> yerah xfce is not windows hehe
[04:18] <cute_bettong> tritium: thanx man it worked ^_^
[04:18] <robotgeek> openbox with gnome...best of both worlds :)
[04:18] <kairu0> openbox is the bomb.com
[04:18] <memin> bob2 I am going to follow the readme
[04:18] <dennis__> bob2 so how do I uninstall the drivers from ati.com?
[04:18] <memin> bob2 to see if it works
[04:19] <tritium> cute_bettong, :)
[04:19] <cute_bettong> tritium: again thanx man ^_^
[04:19] <tritium> of course, cute_bettong
[04:19] <ouroboros> vncpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:20] <ouroboros> seems you can't apt-get install the old lib
[04:20] <ouroboros> any clues?
[04:20] <bob2> dennis__: good question
[04:20] <dennis__> lol
[04:20] <bob2> dennis__: there is a reason people use packages, you know
[04:20] <dennis__> hehe
[04:20] <bob2> one is that it's easy to unbreak things
[04:21] <dennis__> lol
[04:21] <tritium> ouroboros, which package is vncpasswd part of?
[04:21] <bob2> reinstalling linux-restricted-modules might be enough
[04:21] <dennis__> Reinstalling ?
[04:21] <sockpuppe1> is firefox 1
[04:21] <bob2> ouroboros: that's not from ubuntu, right?
[04:21] <cat> !root
[04:21] <ubotu> well, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:21] <ouroboros> tritium: tightvnc....I believe
[04:21] <karen_> help... sudo gtkam shows me thumbs, but when I try to save I get: "could not downlaod 000_1095.jpg from folder /store_00020001" - anyone got a clue?
[04:21] <ouroboros> ubuntu has it in synaptic
[04:21] <kairu0> sockpuppe1, no firefox is 2
[04:21] <bob2> ouroboros: what does "which vncpasswd" print?
[04:22] <sockpuppe1> is firefox 1.0.7 in repos yet?
[04:22] <ouroboros> bob2: /usr/local/bin/vncpasswd
[04:22] <tritium> no, sockpuppe1
[04:22] <dennis__> bob
[04:22] <dennis__> would this woork
[04:22] <sockpuppe1> damn
[04:22] <sockpuppe1> thanks
[04:22] <mindframe> robotgeek, pmount doesnt seem to accept a mount point parameter.  i did pmount /dev/sda1 usb since it asked for a label
[04:22] <dennis__> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules_2.6.10-5-386 xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:23] <ouroboros> River City Ransom Error: BARF!
[04:23] <mindframe> robotgeek, any idea where it might have mounted it by default?
[04:23] <karen_> im guesing it has to do with the camera only showing up once under lsusb, but that dosn't seem to stop it from offloading the thumbs
[04:23] <memin> bob2 mmm a ran  autogen.sh steel doesn't work
[04:23] <bob2> ouroboros: so, it's not from ubuntu at all then
[04:23] <robotgeek> mindframe: /media
[04:23] <bob2> memin: then you need to talk to whoever wrote iti, it's broken
[04:23] <ouroboros> mmmm...I guess not bob2?
[04:23] <ouroboros> why would they have it avail in synaptic though?
[04:23] <bob2> dennis__: yes
[04:23] <rauble> hmm
[04:23] <dennis__> k
[04:23] <dennis__> thanks
[04:23] <bob2> ouroboros: you did not get that from synaptic
[04:23] <ouroboros> I see
[04:23] <bob2> ouroboros: or, if you did, you got it from a very broken non-ubuntu repository
[04:23] <tritium> ouroboros, ubuntu packages do not install binaries in /usr/local
[04:23] <rauble> hey, i can get online with this Ubuntu release... sweet
[04:23] <karen_> if gphoto2 can get at the images, is there some way I can mount it as a fs so i can copy the imges?
[04:24] <ouroboros> bob2: I did try realvnc before using synaptic to install tightvnc
[04:24] <ouroboros> crep
[04:24] <bob2> karen_: not unless the hardware presents itself as a usb-storage device
[04:25] <dennis__> okay bob2 ...now for my next question....where do I go after I reinstall the restricted modules?
[04:25] <karen_> rats
[04:25] <johndavid> k my nvidia is now working! thank you!
[04:25] <ouroboros> tightvncserver is in synaptic
[04:25] <bob2> dennis__: reboot
[04:25] <ouroboros> and tightvnc-java
[04:25] <dennis__> okay
[04:25] <karen_> bob2, im lucky if it presents itself as a camera
[04:25] <dennis__> Brb
[04:25] <bob2> since you need to unbreak the kernel stuff
[04:25] <ouroboros> also xtightvncviewer
[04:25] <tritium> yes, ouroboros, but you evidently installed from another source
[04:25] <johndavid> next problem, i have added a second hard drive that is windows, i just need to mount this to transfer my docs over to linux
[04:25] <ouroboros> hmm
[04:26] <bob2> johndavid: /msg ubotu ntfs
[04:26] <ouroboros> Well how can I get VNC operating in Hoary?
[04:26] <johndavid>  /msg ubotu ntfs
[04:26] <tritium> no leading space, johndavid
[04:26] <ouroboros> You all have to forgive me, I just climbed back into linux after being in hibernation for about 6 years.
[04:26] <tritium> ouroboros, install an appropriate ubuntu package
[04:27] <tritium> ouroboros, do you need server or client on ubuntu?
[04:27] <ouroboros> I see...well maybe you could recommend a package, tritium? I'm afraid my repositories must be corrupted.
[04:27] <jorock> does anyone have ati drivers working in breezy?
[04:27] <ouroboros> server, tritium - client as well, possibly, to self test I s'pose
[04:27] <_n00blar_> jorock, I do
[04:27] <jorock> did you have to do anything special?
[04:28] <jorock> because I've done everything I can think of and still no accel
[04:28] <tritium> ouroboros, are you aware of System->Preferences->Remote Desktop (vino) ?
[04:28] <_n00blar_> jorock, they weren't working at first, but a couple of patches ago...something got fixed in xorg that got them to work
[04:28] <tritium> ouroboros, also, Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client ?
[04:28] <tritium> jorock, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:28] <ouroboros> No, tritium, and I am also not aware of my own brain sometimes.
[04:29] <tritium> ouroboros, the first is a server, the second is a client.  Both support vnc
[04:29] <ouroboros> Cheers, tritium!
[04:29] <tritium> And they're both installed by default
[04:29] <tritium> :)
[04:29] <jorock> yeah been through that
[04:30] <P8ntKid> How do i install IMlib2?
[04:30] <jorock> did everything on it
[04:30] <ouroboros> I do see this, tritium, I want to play with vino, how can I change the access command from "vncviewer localhost.localdomain:0"
[04:30] <tritium> P8ntKid, did you search for imlib2 with either synaptic or apt-cache search?
[04:30] <dooglus> what package do I need to get help working in OO.o2?
[04:30] <tritium> ouroboros, I'm not sure what you're referring to...
[04:30] <_n00blar_> jorock, when u do dmesg .... does linux see the ATI card after the driver is loaded?
[04:31] <ouroboros> In vino preferences, it says "Allow other users to view your desktop" (checked now) - then "Allow other users to control your desktop" (checked already) - then there's Users can view your desktop using this command: vncviewer localhost.localdomain:0
[04:31] <jorock> no
[04:32] <ouroboros> tritium - above, sorry
[04:32] <_n00blar_> jorock, and u followed the ATI HowTo instructions?
[04:32] <ouroboros> tritium - shouldn't it be set to my IP?
[04:33] <_n00blar_> jorock, check any error messages in dmesg that may give you a hint as why the drivers won't load
[04:33] <bimberi> ouroboros: you can substitute your PCs IP address for "localhost.localdomain"
[04:33] <tritium> ouroboros, they should use an appropriate IP, but that setting doesn't affect them
[04:33] <jorock> ok lemme go through them again
[04:33] <_n00blar_> jorock, try doing : dmesg | grep ATi
[04:33] <_n00blar_> ATI. that is
[04:34] <jorock> nothing
[04:34] <jorock> ok
[04:34] <jorock> my bad, ati not Ati
[04:34] <likz> is the latest ubuntu download: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Preview  ?? im currently downloading this
[04:35] <_n00blar_> jorock, nothing came up?
[04:35] <jorock> _n00blar_:  *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22)
[04:35] <ouroboros> oh crep, tritium: vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:35] <ouroboros> using Terminal Server Client
[04:35] <_n00blar_> jorock, that came up as an ATI error message?
[04:36] <tritium> likz, technically, the latest is today's daily image.  breezy is still in development
[04:36] <jorock> yup
[04:36] <tritium> ouroboros, where do you see that?
[04:36] <jorock> the whole error part was : [4294713.031000]  [fglrx:firegl_addmap]  *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22)
[04:36] <jorock> [4295054.527000]  [fglrx:firegl_addmap]  *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22)
[04:36] <ouroboros> Terminal Server Client, tritium - and it's when connecting to myself
[04:37] <ouroboros> by IP address at least
[04:37] <tritium> ouroboros, yes, but where do you see the error?
[04:37] <ouroboros> tritium - pop up window after clicking "connect"
[04:37] <ouroboros> before - same error was for vncserver just from root terminal, tritium
[04:37] <bob2> jorock: are you using a custom kernel?
[04:38] <jorock> no
[04:38] <ouroboros> I don't know what this is all about, not many people have a solution besides downloading those libs, tritium - but they no longer exist
[04:39] <likz> whats diff between 5.10 (breezy badger) and 5.04 hoary?
[04:39] <_n00blar_> jorock, this is the infor I followed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65276&highlight=ATI+howto
[04:39] <Ainvar> kinda like an upgrade of a new os
[04:39] <Turicas> i want to save a file with my voice (in microfone) and the music that is running in xmms..do i can do it?
[04:39] <Ex-Cyber> is there a one-stop-shop somewhere for troubleshooting X performance problems? everything seems to be redrawing pretty slowly (running Breezy preview atm, but have had similar problems on hoary)
[04:40] <sinned> bob2,  can you help me real quick?
[04:40] <tritium> ouroboros, I'm looking at it
[04:40] <jorock> ok I'll try this
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> likz, at the moment, breezy still has some ways to go, but it does look nice and perform well
[04:40] <dabar> likz: this is I think not a good place to ask. This is more for suport with problems. You should I think search the forums, someone may have even made screenshots.  How off topic can you be? any amount? can you be annoying?
[04:41] <sinned> Hmm
[04:41] <sinned> Well I just found out why totem is gay
[04:41] <sinned> I had to install xine
[04:41] <ouroboros> tritium - someone mentions a fix, but I'm really wary about it: "I got the answer on the RealVNC mailing list about ten days ago, but didn't have time to post back here... I had to add an an 'option' line to the 'options ' section of XF86Config-4 file, e.g.
[04:41] <ouroboros> Code:
[04:41] <ouroboros>  Option "passwordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd" "
[04:41] <cat> !Hoary
[04:41] <ubotu> hoary is, like, a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[04:41] <sinned> Does anyone know what codec I install for .mov files
[04:41] <likz> I meant, I'm downloading 5.10 in hopes that it will work with my wireless card on my laptop, i have ipw2200 which was detected with 5.04, but it wouldnt let me go on the net still
[04:42] <bob2> dabar: if people are really really annoying, i'll remove them
[04:42] <ouroboros> tritium - (cont) - above
[04:42] <cat> sinned: do file something.mov
[04:42] <_n00blar_> sinned, w32codecs
[04:42] <bob2> dabar: ditto abusive/threatening/etc
[04:42] <dabar> ok.
[04:42] <sinned> .mov isn't a w32 codec is it?
[04:42] <qt2> why wont the dame side buttons on this mouse work right?
[04:42] <qt2> well, the side buttons wok fone, but now the top ones dont.
[04:43] <tritium> ouroboros, sorry, don't know what to tell you
[04:43] <ouroboros> tritium - that distro is not mine anyways
[04:43] <Ainvar> speaking of ipw2200 issues I fixed my issue on my dell i6000d
[04:43] <ouroboros> indeed, well what can you do, thx for lookin tritium
[04:43] <goose_boy> excuse me
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> likz, any wifi that requires the crappy ndiswrapper and XP drivers is bound to have issues
[04:43] <tritium> ouroboros, you're using hoary?
[04:43] <goose_boy> to install suns java i have to go to the sun website?
[04:43] <cat> goose_boy: yeah
[04:44] <Ainvar> I deleted the /etc/gnome-system-tools/network/profiles.xml file and then redid my wireless connection since even after I deleted all network manager profiles it was still there.
[04:44] <_n00blar_> goose_boy, I think there's an Ubuntu package out there now
[04:44] <ouroboros> tritium - yes
[04:44] <cat> !java
[04:44] <ubotu> To install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava
[04:44] <thongta> excuse me, i wanna a web hosting control panel software for my ubuntu server
[04:44] <cat> !tell goose_boy about sunjava
[04:44] <ouroboros> tritium - I had this same issue with the first install, doing a different app
[04:44] <thongta> help me plz
[04:44] <cat> yeah there is
[04:44] <cat> thongta: ask
[04:45] <thongta> do you know any software for web hosting control panel?
[04:45] <tritium> ouroboros, I have a feeling the real problem is that you installed your own version of tightvnc either instead of, or over, the ubuntu package
[04:45] <cat> thongta: such as?
[04:45] <thongta> as like as cpanel, plesk?
[04:45] <BlueEagle> thongta: "A web hosting control panel"? What do you need it to do? Set up ftp and apache viritual hosts?
[04:45] <cat> !info cpanel
[04:45] <ubotu> cpanel: (A configuration tool for Chinese desktop environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 460 kB
[04:45] <_blake> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths or run configure with --enable-gui=no!
[04:45] <cat> thongta: then get cpanel or plesk
[04:45] <cat> with apt
[04:46] <ouroboros> oh boy, so what would I need to do to resolve this tritium?
[04:46] <thongta> i wanna make my ubuntu server => web hosting
[04:46] <cat> ok
[04:46] <cat> thongta: well apt is you'r friend
[04:46] <cat> cpanel is on the ubuntu mirrors
[04:46] <BlueEagle> thongta: Then install cpanel and read the documentation for it. :)
[04:46] <thongta> cpanel isn't free
[04:46] <cat> well
[04:46] <cat> thongta: do !info cpanel
[04:47] <tritium> ouroboros, uninstall the software you installed, and only use the ubuntu packages, otherwise we can't really help you
[04:47] <BlueEagle> thongta: Who said anything about being free?
[04:47] <thongta> !info cpanel
[04:47] <ubotu> cpanel: (A configuration tool for Chinese desktop environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 460 kB
[04:47] <cat> u see
[04:47] <Ex-Cyber> geez, seems like every distro I try has to be broken in some annoying way...   Now have flash running on my AMD64 - breezy box :)
[04:47] <ouroboros> tritium - what initially happened was realvnc installed into the /usr - so would I have to manually delete those files and then reinstall vnc through synaptic?
[04:47] <thongta> i'm a newbie, plz help me step by step
[04:47] <BlueEagle> cat: "Chinese desktop environment" doesn't sound right to me btw.
[04:48] <unkn0wn2u> nathan_, you want shockwave?
[04:48] <tritium> _blake, did you install any X development packages so as to have the headers?
[04:48] <bob2> cat: it's a different program which is also called cpanel
[04:48] <thongta> or simple, tell me name of some software
[04:48] <tritium> ouroboros, in /usr/local?  Yes, I'd do as you asked
[04:48] <nathan_> unkn0wn2u, yeah, that would be good
[04:48] <ghostdog> how can i run winhq ?
[04:48] <_blake> tritium: how about x protocol development files?
[04:48] <_blake> i think i got it
[04:48] <nathan_> but just flash is a really nice sstart :)
[04:48] <thongta> cat: help me plz
[04:49] <tritium> _blake, probably libx11-dev
[04:49] <bob2> _blake: xlibs-dev
[04:49] <tritium> ah, thanks, bob2
[04:49] <thongta> cat: wo r u? plz help me if u can
[04:50] <ghostdog> how can i run winhq in ubuntu?
[04:50] <tritium> ghostdog, please don't repeat
[04:50] <ouroboros> sigh, thanks tritium
[04:50] <ghostdog> sorry
[04:50] <tritium> If you mean wine from winehq.com, there are instructions on their website.
[04:50] <nathan_> unkn0wn2u, is there a shockwave player available for linux at all?
[04:50] <thongta> cat: plz help me
[04:50] <nalioth> nathan_: not yet
[04:50] <cat> thongta, ?
[04:50] <thongta> about my problem
[04:51] <nathan_> I didn't think so
[04:51] <cat> thongta, did u do apt-get?
[04:51] <thongta> cat: i did
[04:51] <Ex-Cyber> can anyone recommend a graphics card/chipset that has good performance in Ubuntu and doesn't require proprietary drivers for accelerated 3D? (I'm not a hardcore gamer, so to me "good performance" means "Quake 3 runs smoothly")
[04:51] <cat> and what happend?
[04:52] <thongta> cat: i wanna install web hosting control panel on my ubuntu server as Cpanel, Plesk on Linux or Helm on Windows
[04:52] <nathan_> Ex-Cyber, some of the older ATI cards had decent DRI driver support
[04:53] <Ex-Cyber> nathan_: define "older". I'm running a Radeon 8500 now and redraws are slow enough to be disruptive
[04:53] <cat> !info aterm
[04:53] <ubotu> aterm: (Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[04:53] <cat> !info aterm hoary
[04:53] <ubotu> aterm: (Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[04:53] <karen_> how do I redirect stderr to stdout?
[04:54] <BlueEagle> cat: Aterm does not support utf-8 afaik.
[04:54] <thongta> !info cpanel
[04:54] <ubotu> cpanel: (A configuration tool for Chinese desktop environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 460 kB
[04:54] <karen_>  1>2& or 2>%1 or x>yx....
[04:54] <thongta> !info plesk
[04:54] <cat> BlueEagle, i can't see it with apt-cache search aterm
[04:54] <thongta> cat: help me
[04:55] <nathan_> Ex-Cyber, apparently the radeons up to the 9200 were had their secs released to the DRI project.  My original radeon wasn't too bad for a card of the time.  But I've been using a GeForce 4 for a while now
[04:55] <BlueEagle> cat: It is (or was when I installed it) in the universe repos.
[04:55] <cat> ok found it
[04:55] <nathan_> specs == specs
[04:55] <nathan_> secs == specs, even
[04:55] <BlueEagle> hirr
[04:56] <Ex-Cyber> nathan_: in any case Ubuntu doesn't seem to like my card, which supposedly has good 2D support
[04:56] <Ex-Cyber> I was thinking about replacing it, but I guess there aren't really many other options besides R2xx
[04:57] <johnnybezak> hey guys i've got a sound problem. my sounds working and fine, but the bottom end (bass) is *really* distorted. any ideas of a fix?
[04:57] <ouroboros> tritium - eureka! worked like a charm
[04:57] <nathan_> hmm... Sorry Ex-Cyber, can't help then :(
[04:57] <tritium> ouroboros, hmm?
[04:57] <ouroboros> tritium - both Term serv and vino work wonderfully! full cheers
[04:57] <goose_boy> hey how do you run the kde setup wizard again
[04:57] <thongta> Who is ever master of a web hosting?
[04:57] <tritium> ouroboros, after removing from /usr/loca/bin and reinstalling the ubuntu packages?
[04:57] <ouroboros> tritium - just had to delete those jerky vncfiles in /usr, then reinstalled the ubuntu packages off the CD - voila
[04:58] <tritium> nice, ouroboros
[04:58] <ouroboros> tritium - the honor is yours man
[04:58] <Ex-Cyber> it seems like a handful of people have "this problem" (i.e. slow redraws) but the actual underlying problem always seems to be different, and proprietary drivers are involved for most of them
[04:58] <Ex-Cyber> so I don't really know where to go from here
[04:58] <tritium> ouroboros, no, you did well :)
[04:58] <thongta> web hosting control panel, i need help, who can help me?
[04:58] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: if you're after a decent card for Linux, nvidia is really your only option these days if you also want decent 3D.
[04:58] <unkn0wn2u> Ex-Cyber, buy an nvidia card because they have better support
[04:58] <bobby> nvidia for the win :D
[04:58] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: I think that depends on what you mean by "decent"
[04:59] <godzero> Ex-Xyber: my 9200 does well, just don't get the "se" version
[04:59] <Ex-Cyber> I don't need to run Doom 3
[04:59] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: By decent I mean not half the speed of windows 3D.
[04:59] <cafuego_> godzero: The 9200SE in the mac mini runs fine.
[04:59] <thongta> fuk
[04:59] <thongta> fuck
[04:59] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: and also not "limited for use on i386"
[04:59] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: I don't notice much of a problem with 3D with this card, just 2D
[04:59] <tritium> hey, stop that, thongta
[04:59] <thongta> i need help
[04:59] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: huh?
[05:00] <thongta> and noone help me
[05:00] <Turicas> thongta, whats the question?
[05:00] <cat> about cpane
[05:00] <cat> l
[05:00] <ouroboros> For ATI All in Wonder Pro 128 (Rage128) - should I use this to get direct rendering enabled : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:00] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: fglrx is apparently crap on amd64. No idea if it even COMPILES on ppc.
[05:00] <thongta> i wanna install web hosting control panel on my ubuntu server
[05:00] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: I'm not using fglrx, and don't intend to
[05:00] <godzero> runs fine, ya.. but fill rates are slow.. just barely meets the q3 test he mentioned
[05:00] <ouroboros> I have an AMD64 as well.
[05:00] <ouroboros> Cripes.
[05:00] <thongta> do you know any software?
[05:00] <tritium> thongta, maybe nobody answered because nobody has an answer for you
[05:01] <Ex-Cyber> I want a card with DRI Project drivers, even if that means I don't get to run the latest whiz-bang id engine
[05:01] <thongta> :((
[05:01] <Ex-Cyber> which is part of the reason that I haven't swapped this one out for so long
[05:01] <unkn0wn2u> thongta, what do you mean web hosting ........web hosting like apache server or what
[05:01] <Ex-Cyber> 3D performance is not an issue for me with my current card
[05:01] <ouroboros> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto - not for AMD64??
[05:01] <Ex-Cyber> but apparently there are 2D problems
[05:02] <thongta> oh no, as such as Cpanel or Pleask
[05:02] <cafuego_> ouroboros: I think fglrx does run on amd64 thesedays, I just don't know how well.
[05:02] <thongta> of course web server is apache2
[05:02] <nathan_> Ex-Cyber, is it an ideaological issue with binary drivers, or do you have technical issues with them?
[05:03] <ouroboros> thanks, cafuego_ - any second opinions on AMD64 + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto - for ATI All in Wonder Pro 128 (Ancient) ?
[05:03] <thongta> hic, nobody can help me
[05:03] <cafuego_> ouroboros: Buy a cheep nvidia card
[05:03] <unkn0wn2u> thongta, then buy it
[05:03] <Ex-Cyber> nathan_: both
[05:03] <thongta> :(, i want free
[05:03] <ouroboros> right, cafuego_ I'm saving for my SLI cards
[05:03] <unkn0wn2u> thongta, it costs money
[05:04] <cafuego_> ouroboros: Does the all in wonder even DO hw 3d?
[05:04] <johndavid> im  trying to play some audio files and i get this error.. OSS device "/dev/dsp" is already in use by another program
[05:04] <ouroboros> cafuego_ - yes.
[05:04] <johndavid> how can i fix that?
[05:04] <unkn0wn2u> webmin maybe
[05:04] <cafuego_> Learning PHP and perl is free, you could WRITE one and GPL it
[05:04] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: WHich card is it?
[05:05] <nathan_> johndavid, what are you trying to play them with?
[05:05] <johndavid> totem
[05:05] <_blake> anyone know where to find a deb pkg for unixODBC?  it is required for this market analysis program im trying to compile
[05:05] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: Radeon 8500 (apparently an 8500LE, whatever that means)
[05:05] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: Light Edition perhaps :-) Or Limited.
[05:05] <Ex-Cyber> probably
[05:05] <Ex-Cyber> anyway I don't see why it should make 2D slow enough that I notice
[05:06] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: I've only ever played with a 7500 and 9200, both of which seem to work fine under xorg with the free driver.
[05:06] <tritium> ouroboros, the fglrx does not support Rage 128.  You need the generic xorg ati driver (no 3d).
[05:06] <nathan_> johndavid, sorry, not really my specialty.  I'm more a KDE person
[05:06] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: Do you have UseFBDev enabled?
[05:06] <Ex-Cyber> I think this particular stepping or whatever might have issues
[05:06] <johndavid> think KDE would run faster than gnome?
[05:06] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: no idea; what is that setting for?
[05:06] <ouroboros> tritium - there's no way to enable All in Wonder Pro's 3D? I thought you could do that somewhere
[05:06] <Ex-Cyber> johndavid: that has been reported by several people with slow redrawing in gnome
[05:06] <unkn0wn2u> johndavid, i think so but ice is fastest
[05:07] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: It tells X to keep in mind the console is a framebuffer and does some backend stuff, might be worth checking (in /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[05:07] <johndavid> k
[05:07] <johndavid> whats the command to install Kubuntu?
[05:07] <johndavid> il lgive that a whirl
[05:07] <TokenBad> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:07] <TokenBad> I think
[05:07] <cafuego_> ouroboros: Maybe using the gatos ati.2 driver, which would bring PAIN and SUFFERING.
[05:07] <khermans> anyone see that Napoleon Dynamite and Bill Gates movie?
[05:07] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: well, that string isn't there at all
[05:07] <mindmedic> johndavid, try searching for kubuntu in synapitc
[05:08] <nathan_> johndavid, lol.. that's a pretty extreme fix.  but if you want to, it's "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:08] <tritium> ouroboros, what cafuego said
[05:08] <cafuego_> ouroboros: I doubt you'd get performance anywhere NEAR pure software 3d, so don't bother.
[05:08] <khermans> I am trying to view it, but it is WMV9!!!
[05:08] <_blake> im running KDE in ubuntu
[05:08] <_blake> I love it
[05:08] <khermans> Gates/Napoleon Dynamite
[05:08] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: nor does it show up in /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[05:08] <esac> i was a big kde fan, but im really liking gnome
[05:08] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: Ok, not enabled then :-)
[05:08] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, mplayer does
[05:08] <johndavid> k, that wont mess up my nvidia drivers or anything huh?
[05:08] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, with w32codecs?
[05:08] <_blake> was a big gnome fan, but kde is much prettier out of the box
[05:08] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, do you have a link to the movie
[05:09] <_blake> and my pc can handle it, so its all gravy
[05:09] <khermans> is thee a mpg version out there?
[05:09] <tritium> _blake, it's all a matter of personal preference.
[05:09] <ouroboros> tritium and cafuego_ - the concept is that cedega installs require certain acceptable 3d video - if I can't enable direct rendering, then I'm assuming the games won't play
[05:09] <esac> updating my system. yesterday it broke udev, lets hope everything is ok today
[05:09] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: it's weird, I'm coming from Gentoo, where I didn't have this problem (of course I did have other problems, which is why I dumped it)
[05:09] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, i downloaded it, but the quality is crap
[05:09] <_blake> tritium, absolutely
[05:09] <nathan_> johndavid, it shouldn't.  It didn't for me.  Although I did have some issues with kdm, so I've switched back to gdm
[05:09] <ouroboros> tritium and cafuego_ - https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[05:09] <_blake> there are die-hard fans on both sides
[05:09] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, you have a better link?
[05:09] <unkn0wn2u> khermans oh i thought you couldn't play it
[05:09] <unkn0wn2u> no
[05:09] <khermans> i cant
[05:09] <ouroboros> tritium and cafuego_ - that link seems to claim Rage128Pro is acceptable
[05:10] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, why did you say the quality was crap ........
[05:10] <cafuego_> ouroboros: No, if the games support it you can use the software (mesa) renderer too.
[05:10] <nathan_> Definitely a KDE fan here :)
[05:10] <Ex-Cyber> in the past I have had a couple odd spells of bad performance though, so I'm wondering if there's some quirk in my mobo or videocard (both of which somehow seem to be products that don't officially exist) that is causing it
[05:10] <ouroboros> Rather All in Wonder, my bad cafuego_ and tritium
[05:10] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, according to the newsgroup i found it on
[05:10] <ouroboros> cafuego_ I see...ok, was just worried
[05:10] <user10> chem2x
[05:10] <cafuego_> ouroboros: You will get DYSMAL performance on that card though, so I think you'd be wasting your time anyway.
[05:11] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, will you give me a link so I can see if i can play it atleast
[05:11] <cafuego_> KDE fans? Aren'
[05:11] <user10> sdfgdfgftyhghtyi
[05:11] <khermans> http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2679657?htv=12
[05:11] <khermans> fails in Firefox
[05:11] <cafuego_> t we supposed to throw those in the Put Of #Kubuntu?
[05:11] <Ex-Cyber> also I get a rare (by which I mean that few people experience it; it reproduces quite reliably) DRI lockup problem
[05:11] <cafuego_> Pit even
[05:11] <esac> why is it that linux STILL isn't as good as windows is when it comes to automatically setting up the network? dns, wins, wireless configuration, switching between work and home ?
[05:12] <Ex-Cyber> so you can probably see why my thoughts wander toward swapping out components even though the ones I have are supposed to be fine... heh
[05:12] <tritium> esac, linux does a better job for me...
[05:12] <cafuego_> esac: because people complain about it, rather then supplying patches and software to fix it.
[05:12] <Ex-Cyber> esac: for wireless, only because manufacturers bend over backwards to support Windows and have legal/technical problems with doing open-source drivers
[05:12] <SandBrt`jktb> hi all..
[05:12] <hyphenated> esac: agreed. the people it affects are the ones that are too busy to fix it
[05:12] <cafuego_> esac: That wastes everyone's time, so nothing gets done.
[05:13] <ckrueger> ok, i'm a new ubuntu user
[05:13] <_blake> because there is no money in linux
[05:13] <_blake> what drives corporate america?
[05:13] <_blake> $$$
[05:13] <tritium> congratulations, ckrueger
[05:13] <unkn0wn2u> esac, ever hear of dhcp
[05:13] <ckrueger> i was running gentoo all-around, but decided to get rid of it on my office box (here) because i got sick of compiling every last damned thing
[05:13] <LoKi_> trying to load ppp modules, but I get ppp_generic: version magic '<IP_ADDRESS> preempt PENTIUM4 gcc-3.3' should be '<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:13] <LoKi_>  preempt PENTIUM4 gcc-2.95'
[05:13] <cafuego_> _blake: Who cares about corporate america?
[05:13] <ckrueger> and then i went to SuSE...  which is far too much handholding
[05:13] <esac> cafuego_: it seems odd that you have the opinion that everybody who runs linux is a developer. what if i simply cant patch it and all i can do is test and complain ?
[05:13] <ckrueger> and the community sucks
[05:13] <tritium> stock holders, I would presume
[05:13] <ckrueger> so now i'm at ubuntu
[05:13] <ckrueger> but i'm havin an issue
[05:13] <nathan_> esac, kwifi manager is pretty darn good at switching networks
[05:13] <cafuego_> LoKi_: Recompile the module with the right gcc (2.95)
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> cafuego, the patent office of the US
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[05:14] <ckrueger> by default, gnome-volume manager doesn't seem to work
[05:14] <cafuego_> ckrueger: just ask the question.
[05:14] <ckrueger> cafuego_, my life story is more fun :)
[05:14] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda|w: Yeah, all irrelevant
[05:14] <esac> unkn0wn2u: every dhcp client ive tried couldn't handle multiple dns suffix search orders coming from the dhcp server
[05:14] <ckrueger> it doesn't detect CDs when put in
[05:14] <khermans> how can i get w32codecs in Breezy???
[05:14] <ckrueger> i set it to automatically mount removable media when inserted
[05:14] <pc22> !tell pc22 about samba
[05:15] <esac> nathan_: maybe i should try that, the one in gnome isn't that great. and why does it not support WAP very easily like windows ?
 _blake: Who cares about corporate america?
[05:15] <_blake> what kind of question is that?
[05:15] <khermans> anyone using w32codecs in Breezy?
[05:15] <ckrueger> anyone good at getting gnome-volume-manager to work?
[05:15] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, go to mplayerhq
[05:15] <nathan_> esac LOL! support WAP "easily" like widows!
[05:16] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, yeah but i want them [prepackaged
[05:16] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, lazy
[05:16] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, there is no repo?
[05:16] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, everyone who uses Ubuntu is lazy
[05:16] <khermans> its called automation
[05:16] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, there is a repo
[05:16] <khermans> ?
[05:16] <esac> nathan_: ive never had an issue with WAP in windows
[05:16] <esac> err WPA
[05:16] <esac> typo'd twice
[05:16] <Phuzion> Is it possible to set up a section of my hard drive as a Windows compatible file server?
[05:16] <ckrueger> cafuego_, since you seemed to hear me...  do you know anything about gnome-volume-manager?
[05:16] <boxerboy29> is it really worht the 100+ extra dollars you spend on winblows to save you 30 mins worth of work?
[05:17] <robbkidd> khermans: He means you should add the mplayerhq repo to your sources.list.
[05:17] <esac> of course i have an excuse, i actually had dyslexia as a kid
[05:17] <khermans> robbkidd, ahh i c
[05:17] <ckrueger> cafuego_, it works beautifully under all my gentoo machines, but ubuntu doesn't seem to like it
[05:17] <Zugwrack> Anyone in this channel from around Sacramento, CA?
[05:17] <khermans> robbkidd, you know what the addy is?
[05:17] <robbkidd> khermans: I just wgot then dpkg -i'd it.  I'm a Mac user, so "easy WPA setup in windows" makes no sense to me.  But in answer to your question, I think it's probably a bit easier than windows, actually
[05:18] <esac> boxerboy29: windows came with the laptop, it was included in the cost, i COULDNT get it without it. (yes that is a crime in and of itself). but since i already paid for it, its not costing me any extra to install windows and save me that 30 minutes
[05:18] <Ex-Cyber> where can I find a summary of the status of render support for various chipsets?
[05:18] <Phuzion> Is it possible to set up a section of my hard drive as a Windows compatible file server?
[05:19] <unkn0wn2u> Phuzion, samba?
[05:19] <esac> Phuzion: you'll have to clarify what you want. yes you can always partition your hard drive. you can run samba and set it up to share files off that partition.
[05:19] <Phuzion> esac, would that make it look like a shared folder in XP?
[05:19] <esac> Phuzion: yes
[05:20] <Phuzion> Awesome.
[05:20] <Phuzion> Thanks
[05:20] <ilpavox> what is drm listed under in xconfig? it is crashing my compile
[05:21] <esac> anybody have a sony vaio laptop, and have they gotten the extra keys working in gnome like volume up/down and the "ultra bright" mode ?
[05:22] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, where do the w32codecs go in Breezy?  what directory?
[05:22] <nalioth> khermans: i have a deb of w32codecs that does it for you
[05:22] <nathan_> Anyone know what the gnome wifi manager is called?  I'm trying to do a compare and contrast
[05:22] <khermans> nalioth, recent one?
[05:22] <nalioth> khermans: otw, they go in /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[05:22] <khermans> thx, send it?
[05:23] <boxerboy29> i got them from seveas site but i dont have it anymore sorry
[05:23] <seth_k> nathan_, it will be called NetworkManager in Breezy
[05:23] <robbkidd> kherman: Er, okay.  I don't have it.  But I swear the following works: wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb && dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:23] <unkn0wn2u> /usr/lib/win32
[05:23] <caliber> Hey all, is there something like dselect for X?
[05:23] <nalioth> khermans: on the mplayerhq.hu site they recommand the location i sent
[05:23] <nalioth> khermans: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[05:23] <nathan_> seth_k, I'm running KDE.  I need the actual command name, I think
[05:24] <robbkidd> caliber: In Ubuntu's Gnome: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[05:24] <caliber> ahh, synaptic!
[05:24] <caliber> i knew it..
[05:24] <caliber> thanks robbkidd
[05:24] <robbkidd> caliber: N'problem.
[05:25] <khermans> robbkidd, thx dude
[05:25] <robbkidd> khermans: Y'welcome.
[05:25] <khermans> nalioth, cant wait for torrent -- got it from robbkid
[05:25] <nathan_> esac, if the gnome network manager is gnome-nettool, kwifimanager beats it in so many ways that it's not funny
[05:26] <ritalin> hallo
[05:26] <pc22> does samba matter on dhcp network?
[05:26] <ritalin> is their a way to pick and choose what i install from the installer?
[05:26] <robbkidd> pc22: Concentrate and ask again.
[05:27] <tritium> ritalin, a server install installs a bare minimum.  After installation, you can add those packages you want.
[05:27] <ritalin> ty
[05:27] <boxerboy29> ritalin: if you use synaptic you can choose what you want
[05:27] <ritalin> well im gonna give ubuntu a try
[05:27] <caliber> amd64 :)
[05:27] <ritalin> looks nice
[05:27] <ritalin> and im sick of compling
[05:27] <SiRrUs> good evening
[05:28] <pc22> im been trying to configure my samba. its talking abt ipaddress. im confused cos as i thought my pc's ip change evrytime i reboot
[05:28] <robbkidd> ritalin: I'm a happy Ubuntu convert from standard Debian. (Still have Debian on my servers, though.)
[05:28] <ritalin> I currently run freebsd and gentoo
[05:29] <ritalin> gentoo as desktop
[05:29] <ritalin> downloading breezy preview iso now
[05:29] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, make your ip static
[05:29] <pc22> ok
[05:30] <_blake> im about to buy a win2k machine
[05:30] <_blake> !!!!
[05:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, _blake
[05:30] <_blake> haha
[05:30] <_blake> i need photoshop....  :(
[05:31] <pc22> i though dhcp is good in network
[05:31] <tritium> try gimp
[05:31] <_blake> gimp cant fulfill my fantasies
[05:31] <cafuego_> Gimp works fine for RGB.
[05:31] <IcemanV9> ritalin: and fbsd for servers??
[05:31] <robbkidd> pc22: It's good for desktops. For servers, not so much.
[05:31] <Ex-Cyber> is ECS hardware okay or is it cheap for a reason? :P
[05:31] <ritalin> IcemanV9: yes
[05:31] <karen_> arg... I hit "burn to disk" and keep getting "please insert a disk with 671MiB free" which is in there, so I hit ok, and the dialog comes right back
[05:31] <karen_> yes, it is a 700mb blank
[05:31] <ritalin> although im not liking the new 6.0 branch of fbsd
[05:31] <ritalin> they are getty sloppy
[05:31] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: All cheap hardware is cheap for a reason.
[05:32] <nathan_> _blake, you can also try krita.  It's a bit more like photoshop in it's interface then The Gimp and supports multiple colourspaces
[05:32] <ritalin> then again its still beta
[05:32] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, dhcp is good if you don't like work so you can either use a wins server or set static
[05:32] <IcemanV9> ritalin: ha. 6.0 DO have my wireless card (ath0) up and running w/o a problem
[05:32] <pc22> how do i do wins server?
[05:32] <_blake> nathan, thx ill check it out
[05:32] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: I guess I should say "cheap because it's unreliable junk", considering that labor costs is probably a lot of the difference in many cases
[05:33] <robbkidd> pc22: How much of the SAMBA docs have you read?
[05:33] <IcemanV9> ritalin: 5.4 doesn't work .. i have no patience to wait for ath0 driver to be ported to older version
[05:33] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: Well, there's cheap unrelaibale junk and expensive unreliable junk, but NOT much cheap reliable junk.
[05:33] <ritalin> IcemanV9: yeah, 6.0 was like the wifi release
[05:33] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: :)
[05:33] <ritalin> so many improvements to that area
[05:33] <robbkidd> IRC is fine for troubleshooting, but regurgitating documentation here doesn't help anyone.
[05:33] <pc22> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba
[05:33] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: it's usually a matter of how cheap and how unreliable
[05:33] <IcemanV9> ritalin: ubuntu rocks as desktop .. i didn't have to compile so many apps!
[05:34] <ritalin> IcemanV9: btw you know of anything like jails for linux?
[05:34] <ritalin> besides chrooting of course
[05:34] <_blake> jesus, has anyone compiled ODBC before?
[05:34] <IcemanV9> ritalin: unforunately, no. it is on my "todo" list to learn a few things
[05:34] <pc22> unkn0wn2u, at least i want my pcs to be able to save my ubuntu pc
[05:34] <IcemanV9> chroot is another :)
[05:34] <pc22> unkn0wn2u, at least i want my pcs to be able to save to my ubuntu pc
[05:35] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, network neighborhood finds my linux box as long i'm in the same workgroup
[05:35] <robbkidd> Gor, crikey.  That's a whirlwind configuration.
[05:35] <ritalin> Yeah jails is fbsd's best feature imho
[05:35] <IcemanV9> yeah. heard about it so many times. wonder why i did not take time to learn about it. guess i did not need it for my situation.
[05:36] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, quit being a freak just click on network neighborhood on winblows and see what the workgroup is then setup linux to be on the same workgroup or setup a static ip
[05:36] <ritalin> They are porting dtrace also, will be in 7.0
[05:36] <_blake> what is jail?
[05:36] <ritalin> _blake: a virtual system inside freebsd
[05:36] <unkn0wn2u> chroot jail
[05:36] <ritalin> to restrict a proces
[05:37] <tritium> ritalin, you can setup a chroot in ubuntu
[05:37] <robbkidd> _blake: One of the corner spots on the Monopoly board?
[05:37] <_blake> yep, i was waiting for that one
[05:37] <ritalin> tritium: I know but its not as pretty as jails :)
[05:37] <_blake> i like to just visit though
[05:37] <pc22> unkn0wn2u, i can see but to be able to access inside. i cant
[05:38] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, inside what?
[05:38] <pc22> asknf for user and password and i tried it all and wont all me
[05:38] <carrett> hi, in debian i had a menu option when right-clicking on the desktop to open a new terminal...is there any way to get it in ubuntu?
[05:38] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, add users to samba
[05:38] <pc22> how is that
[05:38] <cat> carrett: yeah
[05:38] <carrett> cat: how?
[05:38] <_blake> anyone have a time record on program compiling?
[05:38] <tensor> pc22: useradd a user then smbpasswd -a that user
[05:38] <bobby> carrett, are you using gnome?
[05:38] <cat> carrett: click on applications on gnome and then system tools it should be there
[05:38] <unkn0wn2u> smbpasswd -a username
[05:39] <tensor> pc22: use that to logon from a windows machine to a samba share
[05:39] <bobby> carrett, I still have that option in gnome under ubuntu
[05:39] <unkn0wn2u> sudo smbpasswd -a username yes
[05:39] <carrett> cat: no, i mean to get the menu option when i right click on the desktop
[05:39] <carrett> bobby: really? i'm in gnome...nothing there
[05:39] <cat> carrett: oh not sure
[05:39] <bobby> carrett, I'm using ubuntu 5.04 on this server and I know it is there inn 4.10
[05:39] <cat> carrett: right click
[05:39] <bobby> this is a default install :|
[05:40] <cat> it should be the first option
[05:40] <x[BrB] x> can i set my open office to save all my files on a certain folder on my desktop??
[05:40] <carrett> bobby: i'm on breezy...i guess they got rid of it?
[05:40] <cat> on gnome
[05:40] <robbkidd> pc22: Check the "Configuring your computer as a server" section at the Wiki entry you quoted.  There's a bit at the end of that section that talks about creating Samba users.
[05:40] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, go to configuring your computer as a server at that wiki link dont just read the first half of the wiki
[05:40] <carrett> cat: yeah, it should be...but it's not showing up for some reason
[05:40] <esac> has anybody ever tried laptop-net ?
[05:40] <bobby> carrett, ah that is gnome 2.12, haven't tried that
[05:40] <pc22> ok
[05:40] <pc22> thanks
[05:40] <carrett> bobby: guess they got rid of the option in 2.12...sucks. i liked it
[05:40] <bobby> carrett, I wont move to 2.12 if it isn't able to be restored :|
[05:41] <bobby> I did protest when they were talking about removing it
[05:41] <IcemanV9> carrett: it's not there anymore
[05:41] <ritalin> gnome 2.12 rules!
[05:41] <robbkidd> carrett: Could just put a launcher for the terminal in the panel, non?
[05:41] <Turicas> what lines i have to put in sources.list for apt download files from marillat?
[05:41] <x[BrB] x> can i set my open office to save all my files on a certain folder on my desktop??
[05:41] <ritalin> its great!
[05:41] <ghostdog> how do i install my internal modem
[05:42] <cat> ghostdog: do apt-get install modconf and check on modconf if you'r modem is there
[05:42] <IcemanV9> robbkidd: you can check out 5.10 preview livecd :)
[05:42] <r0bnyc> i just finish installing ubuntu and im trying to install mc but it said it cant find it
[05:42] <robbkidd> icemanv9: Ooh. That thingie.
[05:43] <tritium> ghostdog, or just lsmod to look for it
[05:43] <esac> how do i modify the menu in gnome ?
[05:43] <robbkidd> icemanv9: Thought we were talking about an IRC thing.  Yuh, that's neat.  Where does that information show up?
[05:43] <cat> esac: right click on the menu
[05:44] <ritalin> Beagle in the breezy preview?
[05:44] <IcemanV9> robbkidd: gdm
[05:44] <esac> cat ah thanks, i was right clicking with the menu expanded like windows :(
[05:44] <esac> yeah whatever happend to beagle
[05:44] <ritalin> beagle looks nice
[05:44] <IcemanV9> robbkidd: i believe evolution, too?? not sure
[05:44] <esac> also by default my sound device is ESD .. isn't ALSA better ?
[05:44] <ritalin> never actually used it
[05:44] <ritalin> kinda like apples spotlight
[05:45] <cfh_dev> Is there an ubuntu package for the zaptel kernel module?
[05:45] <cat> oh ok =)
[05:45] <robbkidd> Beagle's in there with big caveats about betaness.
[05:45] <grabbies200> i am trying to install ubuntu on zv6000. the problem i have is with eth0 it has probleme using the dhcp of my router and if i configure manually still does not comunicate with the router, any idea??
[05:45] <robbkidd> icemanv9: Ooo.
[05:45] <tritium> cfh_dev, I see a package named zaptel-source
[05:45] <cfh_dev> tritium, yeah but you have to compile it and that's a bitch
[05:46] <tritium> it's not that bad, cfh_dev
[05:46] <cfh_dev> tritium, can you help me through it?  I'm stuck with a compile error.
[05:46] <ritalin> Is there a way to browse ubuntu's packages from the web?
[05:46] <tritium> ritalin, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:46] <ritalin> danke
[05:46] <tritium> robbkidd, not all are
[05:47] <tritium> cfh_dev, not at the moment, sorry
[05:47] <tritium> cfh_dev, what's the error?
[05:47] <cfh_dev>  SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[05:48] <caliber> I'm having an extremely odd problem.. I just installed kubuntu amd64, and I go to system -> kynaptic, and it comes up "KDE su" and wants me to put in the root passwd to su to root, but it keeps telling me the password is wrong? Yet, I open a terminal and SU perfectly fine!
[05:48] <robbkidd> Having discovered Amarok, I'm disappointed that it's a KDE app.  Works well enough, but were it tightly integrated with GNOME, I'd be even happier.
[05:48] <tritium> cfh_dev, did you unpack the source package?
[05:48] <cfh_dev> didn't have to, it came from synaptic already unpacked
[05:48] <robbkidd> calider: It wants YOUR password, not root's.
[05:48] <robbkidd> Whoop.
[05:48] <robbkidd> SU. Not SUDO.
[05:48] <caliber> gah! if thats true..
[05:49] <tritium> cfh_dev, I think it's only a tar.gz in /usr/src
[05:49] <cfh_dev> tritium, it's already unpacked in /usr/src/modules/zaptel
[05:49] <robbkidd> caliber: No no. I think I was wrong.  If it's *SU*, you're correct.
[05:49] <NilXu> ritalin: are you from Northern Kentucky area?
[05:49] <tritium> cfh_dev, if you're sure...
[05:49] <cfh_dev> tritium, yep.  lot's of .c and .h files
[05:49] <caliber> yeah this isnt going either.
[05:49] <caliber> this is messed up.
[05:50] <robbkidd> caliber: Ubuntu's GNOME admin utilities use *sudo* which asks for the user's password.
[05:50] <caliber> let me try somewthing, brb.. thanks
[05:50] <cfh_dev> tritium, someone on the * channel suggested I compile from cvs
[05:50] <tritium> cfh_dev, zaptel-source with module-assistant would be much easier, I would think.  Are you using module-assistant?
[05:50] <ritalin> NilXu: im from jeffersonville IN
[05:50] <ritalin> why?
[05:51] <cfh_dev> tritium, I don't think so.  What would I do to use it?
[05:51] <tritium> cfh_dev, best bet is to read the docs in /usr/share/doc/module-assistant
[05:51] <r0bnyc> i just finish installing ubuntu and im trying to install mc but it said it cant find it
[05:51] <NilXu> ritalin: were on the same node from insight and i was going to ask if you new about any LUGs around here
[05:51] <tritium> cfh_dev: also, /usr/share/doc/zaptel-source should have info on how to compile it using module-assistant (it's a dependency)
[05:51] <ritalin> NilXu: ah
[05:52] <cfh_dev> tritium, I'll check it out, thanks
[05:52] <tritium> good luck
[05:52] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Have you "enabled" the Universe respository?
[05:52] <NilXu> ritalin: where is jeffersonville?
[05:52] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, no im just using the default settings right now
[05:52] <tritium> that's why, r0bby
[05:52] <tritium> r0bnyc,
[05:52] <lrv> Has any one abandoned synaptic in favor of the ./configure method?
[05:52] <NilXu> ritalin: near louisville, ky?
[05:53] <tritium> lrv, not advised when ubuntu packages exist
[05:53] <r0bnyc> so i just need to enable the universe or enable anything thats disabled?
[05:53] <ritalin> NilXu: yes
[05:53] <NilXu> ritalin: ic well sorry to bother
[05:53] <tritium> r0bnyc, and then update your package list
[05:53] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Therein lies your problem. mc is a package in the "universe" repository. You can turn this on in System -> Administration -> Update Manager. (Or, if you're comfortable with a text editor, uncomment the "universe" lines in /etc/apt/sources.list")
[05:54] <ritalin> no prob
[05:54] <NilXu> later
[05:54] <tritium> ritalin, I was in West Lafayette until this past August
[05:54] <vladuz976> i just updated to breezy and i can't even log in anymore, i am getting xorg errors. anybody else have that problem?
[05:55] <ritalin> tritium: purdue?
[05:55] <tritium> ritalin, yeah, purdon't
[05:55] <crimsun> vladuz976: make sure you haven't additional updates pending: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[05:55] <robbkidd> vladuz976: Yep. Run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and let it rewrite your FILES section.
[05:55] <cfh_dev> tritium, module-assistant worked great but 'modprobe zaptel' still doesn't find the module.  Any thoughts?
[05:55] <ritalin> tritium: :)
[05:55] <tritium> :)
[05:55] <crimsun> 'evening, tritium
[05:55] <tritium> cfh_dev, did you install the .deb that was created?
[05:56] <tritium> hello, crimsun :)
[05:56] <lrv> Who is using breezy as is now?
[05:56] <crimsun> lrv: I am
[05:56] <robbkidd> <- Using breezy.
[05:56] <jdub> lrv: moi
[05:56] <tritium> lrv, I am too
[05:56] <crimsun> 'morning, jdub
[05:56] <jdub> yo crimsun
[05:56] <cfh_dev> tritium, mod-ass asked to install so I said yes.  let me check dpkg
[05:56] <lrv> excellent
[05:56] <tritium> heya jdub
[05:56] <lrv> would you it is stable for a office enviroment?
[05:57] <vladuz976> crimsun, where can i find info on setting my sources.list for backports?
[05:57] <lrv> say that is
[05:57] <cfh_dev> tritium, it's installed but no love from modprobe
[05:57] <IcemanV9> user agent switcher causes a problem with GameChannel :(
[05:57] <jimurine> hey
[05:57] <jimurine> i screwed up big time
[05:57] <robbkidd> vladuz: The problem with the breezy upgrade right now is that the new xorg packages have fiddled with the location of fonts.  Rerunning the configuration with overwrite your old font paths with their new locations.
[05:57] <crimsun> vladuz976: there's definitely info on the forum ; the ubotu bot has some info, too, but I don't know the key
[05:58] <jimurine> i typed init 1 at the terminal and now it won't boot, saying that X needs properly configed before i can run GDM
[05:58] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, so i can check them all ?
[05:58] <robbkidd> vlad: If you're running breezy, why touch the backports?
[05:58] <likz> yes
[05:58] <cfh_dev> tritium, I needed to do depmod -a first.  Thanks for all the help
[05:58] <tritium> cfh_dev, no problem
[05:58] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Sorry, check all of what?
[05:58] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, repository from update manager
[05:58] <tritium> IcemanV9, you're at Purdue too?
[05:59] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Sure. S'what I did.
[05:59] <robbkidd> jimurine: Sounds like you upgraded to breezy, yes?
[05:59] <apocalyptica> hola *waves*
[05:59] <r0bnyc> 5.10 updates, 5.10 security updates, checked them all ?
[05:59] <jimurine> yeah i'm on breezy
[05:59] <alexandros> good night, does anyone know what happened to the unofficial ubuntu website?
[05:59] <IcemanV9> tritium: heh. no. Chicagoland. Orton is a Purdue graduate playing for Bears.
[06:00] <JoshIsSciFi> ubuntu rocks!
[06:00] <jimurine> robbkid: yeah i'm on breezy badger
[06:00] <tritium> IcemanV9, yeah.
[06:00] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Not necessary for getting mc installed, but if this is your desktop, enabled all of those sources gives you the most options.
[06:00] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, yes thanks
[06:00] <zyph> i'm still getting the no core pointer error message
[06:00] <JoshIsSciFi> quick question for you all, has anyone gotten ayttm to work in ubuntu?  I installed rpm, then tried to use the FC rpm for ayttm, no luck
[06:01] <tritium> zyph, do you have the latest udev ?
[06:01] <zyph> i did apt-get dist-upgrade, and dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[06:01] <robbkidd> jimurine: I'm 98.43% certain that if you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org" and let it rewrite your FILES section, your X setup will be back in commission.
[06:01] <zyph> tritium: yeah i'm pretty sure i do
[06:01] <IcemanV9> no user agent switcher extension for epiphany? dang
[06:01] <zyph> tritium: should i apt-get udev?
[06:01] <jimurine> ok just type that in at the cmd prompt?
[06:01] <tritium> zyph, 0.060-1ubuntu14 is what you want
[06:01] <robbkidd> jimurine: Yepper.
[06:01] <likz> anyoen able to help with iwp2200 wireless on my laptop, I get the following in terminal: http://pastebin.com/370635
[06:01] <zyph> tritium: how do i check what version of udev i have now?
[06:01] <jimurine> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:01] <tritium> JoshIsSciFi, did you not try the .deb ?
[06:01] <robbkidd> jimurine: And then answer a number of questions.
[06:01] <ritalin> anyone here use/used balsa?
[06:01] <bur[n] er> likz: you apply the firmware?
[06:02] <jimurine> robbkidd: thanks
[06:02] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, thanks for your help btw do you know where i can get nice gnome themes ? (complete with icons or so) "?
[06:02] <JoshIsSciFi> tritium, I shall try it momentarily, thank you.
[06:02] <r0bnyc> i mean real real nice :)
[06:02] <likz> I heard that 0.19 should work right off the bat without installing the new 1.00
[06:02] <tritium> JoshIsSciFi, it's in universe
[06:02] <JoshIsSciFi> universe?
[06:02] <JoshIsSciFi> sorry if that sounds dumb... lol
[06:02] <tritium> zyph, apt-cache policy udev is one way
[06:02] <bur[n] er> er... likz what's the problem?  looks all fine to me
[06:02] <zyph> tritium: thanks
[06:02] <tritium> !tell JoshIsSciFi about repositories
[06:03] <JoshIsSciFi> but I just found out about ubuntu tonight, so not fully familiar with everything as of yet
[06:03] <crimsun> likz: hoary or breezy?
[06:03] <tritium> zyph, we are talking about breezy, I assume?
[06:03] <zyph> tritium: yeah that's the version i have now
[06:03] <likz> bur[n] er: i just installed ubuntu 1hour ago, not sure
[06:03] <zyph> tritium: yes
[06:03] <likz> crimsun: hoary
[06:03] <jimurine> brb i'm gonna try this
[06:03] <zyph> tritium: perhaps i should reboot?
[06:03] <tritium> zyph, well, when did udev get installed relative to your last reboot?
[06:03] <crimsun> likz: what seems to be the issue with ipw2200?
[06:04] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Indeed. art.gnome.org and gnome-look.org.  Bonus: install the "gnome-art" package which will automatically download previews of themes at art.gnome.org and install what you select.
[06:04] <bur[n] er> likz: use your icon in your panel to set the ESSID to connect to
[06:04] <zyph> tritium: this session
[06:04] <likz> I found this site http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 regarding updating wirless, but it says it should work with 0.19 though... cant get wirless to work
[06:04] <tritium> zyph, please reboot (restarting udev might work, not sure)
[06:04] <zyph> tritium: so udev restart?
[06:04] <JoshIsSciFi> tritium, so basically I type in the deb http:// into console?
[06:04] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, thanks again . what themes do you use
[06:05] <zyph> i'll reboot first
[06:05] <tritium> JoshIsSciFi, no, that info would go in /etc/apt/sources.list  (can be done using a text editor, or through synaptic)
[06:05] <zyph> i'll be back
[06:05] <JoshIsSciFi> alright
[06:05] <JoshIsSciFi> lemme put it in there
[06:05] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: I'm ambivalent on eyecandy.  I've got Human up with the graphic icon set.  The whole graphite theme suite is rather nice, though.
[06:06] <likz> crimson: trying to get ipw2200 to work on my laptop, without resorting to installing breezy (only cause i hear it has more hardware support)
[06:06] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Graphite is available at gnome-look.org, I think. Not through art.gnome.org or the gnome-art utility.
[06:06] <tritium> JoshIsSciFi, did you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto ?
[06:06] <nalioth> robbkidd: run a cli box then. way more performance that way
[06:06] <jimurine> robbkidd: are you sure it's xserver-org?
[06:06] <JoshIsSciFi> reading now tritium
[06:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> Does anyone know why xine wont play store bought DVDs?
[06:06] <tritium> css
[06:06] <Agrajag> you don't have libdvdcss2 installed.
[06:06] <likz> http://pastebin.com/370635   is what I got so far
[06:07] <jimurine> it's telling me there's no such package as xserver-org
[06:07] <jimurine> !tell jimurine xserver-org
[06:07] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Yep. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26757 Another bonus: the graphite icon set includes the "proper" Firefox and Thunderbird icons.
[06:07] <tritium> xserver-xorg, jimurine
[06:07] <crimsun> likz: unfortunately that doesn't reveal too much
[06:07] <r0bnyc> ty robbkidd
[06:07] <robbkidd> jimurine: Damn and blast. No. My mistype. It's xserver-xorg. (note the two Xs)
[06:08] <likz> im a nub to linux, what info do you need?
[06:08] <jimurine> robbkidd: thanks for your help! i'll be back
[06:08] <robbkidd> nalioth: Wurl, I like *some* eyecandy.  I likes me my Amarok.
[06:08] <marie_> hello
[06:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, actually i got an error so i installed it...now it says according to my country's laws Im not allow to use libdvdcss2 to play my store bought dvd's
[06:08] <nalioth> robbkidd: color in your ~/.bashrc works great! ;)
[06:08] <JoshIsSciFi> hmm
[06:08] <marie_> i have a question
[06:09] <JoshIsSciFi> the adding howto doesn't seem to come up
[06:09] <Agrajag> Sonny_Wertzik: You live in the US?
[06:09] <robbkidd> nalioth: Heh.
[06:09] <likz> should ipw2200 work fine under 0.19, no need to upgrade to 1.0.6?
[06:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, ya i do
[06:09] <JoshIsSciFi> ah hah, thats why...
[06:09] <marie_> how can i install a counterstrike game in a linux
[06:09] <tritium> likz, ipw2200 on hoary might actually be more work than upgrading to breezy if you look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[06:09] <whyameye> What is the ubuntu equivalent for, say, adobe illustrator?
[06:09] <knudsen> Hello. Does anybody know what is happening to the backports? After installing Acrobat Reader, it will not start ... and j2re/j2sdk are missing :-(
[06:09] <Agrajag> Then that's true, according to the DMCA you cannot use libdvdcss2 to break css encryption.
[06:09] <Agrajag> But you won't be prosecuted for it.
[06:09] <robbkidd> nalioth: To tell the truth, I use a lot of X apps, though I am one of those sad souls with a workspace scattered with shells.
[06:10] <Agrajag> And if you are, raise hell and get that pile of dung repealed.
[06:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, so what do i do now ??
[06:10] <Agrajag> Use it anyway.
[06:10] <esac> i installed console-terminus and xfonts-terminus, but its not showing up. do i have to do something to refresh the font cache ?
[06:10] <marie_> how can i install counterstrike in linux ubuntu
[06:10] <tritium> whyameye, scribus
[06:10] <dooglus> is 'curl' installed by default?
[06:10] <likz> tritium: and breezy supports ipw2200 ? intel pro/wirless 2200bg cards
[06:10] <nalioth> dooglus: no
[06:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, i cant ..i get that error and i can only cancel
[06:10] <Agrajag> wtf
[06:10] <marie_> pls answer me
[06:10] <Agrajag> Where did you get the package?
[06:11] <robbkidd> dooglus: Negative. wget is though.
[06:11] <tritium> likz, yes, I have ipw2200 on a laptop with breezy installed
[06:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, i know..tell me about it
[06:11] <crimsun> marie_: try wine or cedega
[06:11] <Ex-Cyber> tritium: I thought scribus was specifically optimized to be an SVG editor and not a general vector illustration program... is that incorrect?
[06:11] <likz> any it autodetected it?
[06:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, from the xine site
[06:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> i think
[06:11] <dooglus> hmmm.  so is this a bug:
[06:11] <dooglus> $ sudo apt-file update
[06:11] <dooglus> sh: curl: command not found
[06:11] <Agrajag> why?
[06:11] <Agrajag> Use ubuntu repositories for software, don't download it from websites.
[06:11] <dooglus> apt-file seems to need curl, but didn't require it
[06:11] <tritium> Ex-Cyber, not sure about the nitty-gritty details
[06:11] <likz> whats the command to test if CD copy of Ubuntu was properly burnt?
[06:11] <marie_> what is that crimsum
[06:11] <opteek> ok, i have a folder where i mount some partition, and i am a member of the group which owns said folder, and the group has full permissions on the folder, yet I cannot access the folder with my user, what is up??
[06:12] <robbkidd> doog: You probably want to run apt-get, non?
[06:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> i had the old versionit was buggy and it still did the same thing with libdvdcss2
[06:12] <dooglus> robbkidd: non.
[06:12] <crimsun> marie_: they're programs you may have luck with running Windows programs
[06:12] <dooglus> robbkidd: I was trying to use apt-file
[06:12] <marie_> its my first time in linux environment
[06:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> the new xine is perfect cept for i can play store bought dvds
[06:12] <robbkidd> doog: Aah. I see the difference.
[06:12] <robbkidd> marie: Welcome!
[06:12] <Agrajag> Sonny_Wertzik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:13] <r0bnyc> where do I find my trash can?
[06:13] <dooglus> r0bnyc: in the bottom right hand corner?
[06:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, whats that a repository?
[06:13] <marie_> tnx robb
[06:13] <Agrajag> That's a website.
[06:13] <Agrajag> Read that page.
[06:13] <Ex-Cyber> tritium: I thought it forked from sodipodi because someone wanted something to edit SVG for web usage... but I'm not sure myself :/
[06:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> ahhh thx man
[06:13] <marie_> what should i do crimsum
[06:13] <Octane> I have been unable to open any office documents for over a month and could really use some help in getting OpenOffice.org to work. If you would be so kind and read this thread to try to help me - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67327 - I would very much appreciate it
[06:13] <tritium> Ex-Cyber, perhaps apt-cache show scribus will tell you what you want to know
[06:13] <opteek> anyone? im sure this is an eez question
[06:14] <r0bnyc> dooglus, lol thanks i couldnt see it
[06:14] <dooglus> r0bnyc: it's pretty small
[06:14] <whyameye> tritium, Ex-Cyber: thanks. I'll take a look at Scribus, at least.
[06:14] <JoshIsSciFi> does ubuntu have support natively for Logitech Webcams?
[06:14] <r0bnyc> dooglus, yea but is that my monitor had a bad size for awkard reasons
[06:14] <robbkidd> About that trashcan: am I beholden to keeping it's manipulator in my panel?
[06:14] <cat> JoshIsSciFi: not really
[06:15] <JoshIsSciFi> hmm
[06:15] <boxerboy29> hey guys how do you find what package is broken when it says one is?
[06:15] <cat> boxerboy29: apt-cache search package
[06:15] <marie_> cmon guys help me
[06:15] <cat> marie_: ask
[06:15] <robbkidd> boxerboy: Or sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:15] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: what filesystem?
[06:15] <marie_> how can i install counterstrike
[06:15] <opteek> Ex-Cyber, ntfs
[06:16] <tritium> marie_, please don't be so insistent.  crimsun gave you a suggestion to try
[06:16] <cat> marie_: get cigega or something like that to play
[06:16] <cat> *cidega
[06:16] <marie_> im totally new to linux so i have no idea what he gave me
[06:16] <tritium> Octane, that's bizarre.  I've not seen that before.
[06:16] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: look at the manpage for mount.ntfs and see if there's a "umask" option... I'm not sure but if NTFS doesn't support unix-style permissions it may be defaulting to something more restrictive
[06:16] <ritalin> cedega*
[06:16] <ritalin> ;)
[06:16] <marie_> what is cigega
[06:16] <cat> marie_: well, get cedega to play games
[06:16] <cat> marie_: www.google.com/linux cedega
[06:17] <Octane> tritium: i know!!!!!!!!
[06:17] <cat> and see what it is but you have to pay for it
[06:17] <Octane> tritium: everything else works perfectly
[06:17] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: sorry, it's in the mount manpage, mount.ntfs manpage doesn't exist
[06:17] <marie_> ok cat tnx ill get it
[06:17] <cat> np
[06:17] <[cyb3rm4n] > hi all
[06:17] <rigel> !seen joob
[06:17] <ubotu> rigel: i haven't seen 'joob'
[06:17] <[cyb3rm4n] > :D
[06:17] <JoshIsSciFi> has anyone attempted to use the 3ddesktop?
[06:17] <cat> nope why?
[06:18] <JoshIsSciFi> Was going to test it out lol
[06:18] <esac> i just got this error message, anybody know what it means: find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for ./proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[06:18] <cat> oh and what's holding you?
[06:18] <Marxist> does anyone know my system gives me a kernel panic after new kernel install, what could it be  that one can do wrong to lead to that failure?
[06:18] <JoshIsSciFi> the fact that I'm amazed at ubuntu, and its glory is temporarily blinding me
[06:18] <JoshIsSciFi> :)
[06:18] <robbkidd> esac: I'm assuming you got that while running find?
[06:18] <cat> Marxist: grub or lilo?
[06:18] <esac> robbkidd: that is correct
[06:18] <boxerboy29> well i found the problema nd fixed it now my question is how do i get a non broken version of opera
[06:19] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: it looks like you want the "gid" and "umask" options...
[06:19] <cat> boxerboy29: apt-get install opera breezy or whatever
[06:19] <robbkidd> esac: Probably choked on the weirdness that is the /proc filesystem.
[06:19] <Marxist> grub
[06:19] <Ex-Cyber> but I've never used NTFS support for anything other than backing up stuff from an NTFS volume, so I don't really know
[06:19] <esac> robbkidd: never seen it before with hoary, possibly a new bug ?
[06:19] <cat> Marxist: must be something wrong
[06:19] <cat> with the grub configuration or the kernel also
[06:20] <Marxist> it reads the kernel but i just get a kernel panic afterwards
[06:20] <robbkidd> esac: May be.
[06:20] <cat> does ubuntu have a handbook like fbsd
[06:20] <cat> !handbook
[06:20] <ubotu> cat: Wish i knew
[06:20] <cat> sucks
[06:20] <tritium> cat, the documentation team is working on lots of great documents
[06:20] <cat> tritium: so is it or there isn't
[06:20] <Ex-Cyber> cat: not really... closest thing that exists is the Wiki, and it's not as nicely structured as the FBSD Handbook
[06:20] <Marxist> but could it be that i install some unnecessary kernel support for devices my system might not have?
[06:21] <Ex-Cyber> but it's still a pretty good source of info
[06:21] <robbkidd> esac: Well, it happens to me, too.
[06:21] <tritium> cat, I don't know the status of it
[06:21] <cat> oh
[06:21] <robbkidd> esac: What the significance of that is, I don't know.
[06:21] <cat> they should do one
[06:21] <tritium> they are, cat
[06:21] <Marxist> is there any good up to date documentation that i can read on what to do and what not to do when configuring a new custom kernel?
[06:22] <opteek> Ex-Cyber, how can I specify these options in fstab
[06:22] <robbkidd> cat: I've had a fair amount of success just with putting "ubuntu" in as my first keyword at Google.  Someone somewhere has had to solve my problems already.
[06:22] <benjamin1254> gimp doesent wana save new moded image files when i got my ubuntu cds from the netherlands today... any help?
[06:22] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: I don't recall exactly but it can be done... there should be a manpage for fstab
[06:22] <irs4> hi, any body from phils
[06:22] <JoshIsSciFi> OMG!@!@11111one!
[06:22] <sPYder---> what is the shortcut key to see the process?????????????????
[06:22] <cat> robbkidd: where?
[06:22] <opteek> Ex-Cyber, ty
[06:22] <JoshIsSciFi> if you have not used 3ddesktop, try it!
[06:22] <cat> give me the link
[06:22] <tritium> cat, also, much of the Debian Reference is pertinent
[06:23] <cat> robbkidd: can u give me the link?
[06:23] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: basically it would be where you see stuff like "ro" "noatime" etc for other partitions
[06:23] <Marxist> i've tried tldp and it's out of date
[06:23] <JoshIsSciFi> all the people in my history class that bring they're laptops are gonna freak when I pop mine open with 3ddesktop goin
[06:23] <benplaut> hrm
[06:23] <tritium> cat, currently, we have this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:23] <benplaut> conflict between Opera and Scribus
[06:23] <robbkidd> cat: Er, I didn't mean that I'd found a handbook.  Just that Google+"ubuntu"-keyword has answered most of my questions.
[06:23] <irs4> hi
[06:23] <tritium> cat, more documentation is being written
[06:23] <sPYder---> what is the shortcut key to see the process?????????????????ctrl+alt+del for windows.. what is for ubuntu???
[06:24] <tritium> sPYder---, there is no shortcut key
[06:24] <sPYder---> why
[06:24] <IcemanV9> cat: wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:24] <marie_> does an online game work in linux
[06:24] <sPYder---> if my application will hang what will i do???
[06:24] <robbkidd> Josh: The 3D desktop would probably lessen my irritation with all that clickety-clacking during lecture, yea.
[06:24] <bobby> some times
[06:24] <bobby> marie_, what is the game?
[06:24] <benjamin1254> marie what 1?
[06:24] <marie_> gunbound