[00:00] <Starnestommy> !envy | earthmeLon and FallenAngel
[00:00] <ubotu> earthmeLon and FallenAngel: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:00] <dmsuperman> unop, There's 3 that use snd-hda-intel and each of those say that they're also in use
[00:00] <errpast> what's a good site for linux laptop compatibility
[00:00] <FallenAngel> ah! that ubotu is really useful :)
[00:00] <nugz1212> ladies and gentlemen i have problems to be fixed
[00:00] <dmsuperman> unop, 3 that are used by*
[00:00] <nugz1212> woops
[00:01] <earthmeLon> haha, yeah FallenAngel he's right, but I still highly suggest using envy :D
[00:01] <el_ruso> errpast what's exactly your question?
[00:01] <nugz1212> nvm
[00:01] <McJester> ikonia, it needs an application
[00:01] <sjovan> okay, i got a script ~/vcn with chmod +x. how can i make the scrit executable from any dir?
[00:01] <dmsuperman> unop, is there a way to reboot and have it not load snd-hda-intel so that I can do it that way before it gets locked?
[00:01] <errpast> where can I buy a laptop that will be compatible and reasonably priced, other than dell
[00:01] <erfol> ikonia: board works fine with windows though, it's just a 5 year old laptop
[00:01] <errpast> I don't want to hack. I want it to work
[00:01] <ikonia> McJester: what ?
[00:01] <gottatrieit> Hi. I just installed IRC chat and this is my use in several months.  I can't believe how easy it was! I just turned it on and here I am.
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> errpast: system76.com
[00:01] <ikonia> erfol: windows is not a linux kernel
[00:01] <McJester> ikonia, I'm still trying to edit the menu.lst
[00:01] <ikonia> McJester: use a text editor
[00:02] <el_ruso> errpast dell.com lol. have you tried with ebay?
[00:02] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel, also, make sure you follow these instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[00:02] <errpast> Odd-rationale, cool. thx
[00:02] <unop> dmsuperman, well, the only sane way is to do the same for those modules too (and so on if required) .. or put the options to the module in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base  and reboot
[00:02] <earthmeLon> Does anybody else feel like copy&paste in Ubuntu acts really weird?
[00:02] <errpast> el_ruso, Is Dell bad?
[00:02] <McJester> ikonia, I tried that too, there is not menu.lst in the boot folder
[00:02] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - cheers - you just preemted my next question
[00:03] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel, do the Manual Method, btw
[00:03] <el_ruso> errpast i'm a dell's fan
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> earthmeLon: nope. just highlight and middle-click :)
[00:03] <FallenAngel> will do
[00:03] <crazytalk> when i input my correct video and monitor settings into xserver xorg in recovery and boot ubuntu it unchecks the box beside nvidia in system > prefs > restricted drivers. am i still taking full advantage of the card?
[00:03] <earthmeLon>     * ly repositories. These are part of the Ubuntu distribution system. This is the recommended method.
[00:03] <gottatrieit> In what manner, earthmeLon?  I just used it a little while ago and it seemed to work fine.
[00:03] <earthmeLon> Oooh! Thanks Odd-rationale and sorry #ubuntu for the spam :P
[00:03] <dmsuperman> unop, snd-hda-intel isn't listed anywhere in my alsa-base file
[00:04] <el_ruso> errpast actually dell computers come with ubuntu
[00:04] <dmsuperman> unop, can I add it? or is something odd going on?
[00:04] <errpast> el_ruso, thanks.
[00:04] <unop> dmsuperman, you can add it in, just make sure you follow the format of the other modules
[00:04] <errpast> I just misunderstood your lol.  Glad you recommend it
[00:05] <errpast> system76 looks good too
[00:05] <el_ruso> errpast you're welcome
[00:05] <gogeta> hears something i need for linux i cant find v92 modem on hold softwhere
[00:05] <el_ruso> yeah that's roght
[00:05] <dmsuperman> unop, alright, going to reboot.
[00:05] <pclynch> Avant-Window-Navigator is working and i don't know why :(
[00:05] <el_ruso> right
[00:05] <MrSteve> How to un>GZ a file?
[00:05] <pclynch> Avant-Window-Navigator isn't working and i don't know why :(
[00:06] <Orbixx> MrSteve: gunzip file.gz
[00:06] <gottatrieit> crazytalk; my nVidia driver works fine and I've reinstalled it, or rewritten xorg at least three times!
[00:06] <MrSteve> Orbixx:  How to -- on the desktop?
[00:06] <Orbixx> On the desktop it should just be a case of double clicking it..
[00:06] <MrSteve> Orbixx:  thanks
[00:07] <longmanzz> hi
[00:07] <MrGnu> Hi all, if I wanted to add KDE, to my new UBUNTU desktop, whats the easiest way to do this?
[00:07] <longmanzz> hi
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> MrGnu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[00:07] <MrGnu> Thanks Odd
[00:07] <FallenAngel> MrGnu - i think theres some packages if you search in synaptic
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> MrGnu: or for just kde do kde-core
[00:07] <gogeta> MrGnu apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:07] <gottatrieit> ex-chat
[00:08] <gottatrieit> Oops! Sorry. Trying to log off.
[00:08] <MrGnu> I did the package route, problem with that is, it causes an issue with non functional splash image, so I read somewhere that you could do it through Synaptic, but i forgot how, I think Odd that your way gets me that easy set up
[00:09] <sakalli> hi all
[00:09] <FaceDead> ubuntu or mandriva, what's better?
[00:09] <MiYaRSTiM_> lol
[00:09] <n-iCe> does anybody knows a ipod manager, something similar to itunes but for ubuntu?
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> FaceDead: mandriva you have to pay for the full version. Ubuntu you get the best for free....
[00:09] <el_ruso> ubuntu for everyone
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> !ipod
[00:10] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[00:10] <MrGnu> Thanks all, doing it now, im gonna 'git' er done!
[00:10] <el_ruso> rythimbox
[00:10] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - ok, silly question, but doing a search in synaptic still shows nothing for envy, even after updating the package locations? do I have to use apt-get?
[00:11] <FaceDead> As set my video card to 1024x768.
[00:12] <MrGnu> One more question, KUBUNTU currently for Gutsy is 3.5 right?
[00:12] <MrGnu> Or have we finally gotten to go to 4?
[00:13] <longmanzz> hi
[00:13] <el_ruso> kde 4, i like it
[00:13] <winger> Hi
[00:13] <earthmeLon> Oh, my bad.  You have to install envy from outside FallenAngel: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[00:13] <MrGnu> Are we on KDE 4 now, or are we waitng for 4.1?
[00:13] <Signil> hi .. my acer orbicam isn't detected! pls help I dl the gspca drivers..
[00:13] <Determinist_> any idea where i could grab mysql-server-4.1 for gutsy?
[00:13] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel, I clicked the Get Envy Legacy link and then opened it with the installer
[00:13] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - no worries - thanks
[00:13] <dmsuperman> unop, thanks :D
[00:14] <unop> dmsuperman, working?
[00:14] <dmsuperman> unop, probably
[00:14] <sakalli> trouble with realplayer and firefox 3 in 8.04. cant see the libtotem-complex-plugin.so plugin in the plugin folders, but when i do about:plugins it still seems to be there. if i do locate for it it finds it only in /usr/lib/totem/gstreamer and /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/ the sound is all gorgled when i play rm through the browser. if i play the same links through realplayer they are fine.
[00:14] <dmsuperman> unop, it only had static half the time, so i can't be sure
[00:14] <dmsuperman> unop, but sound is coming from all 5.1 channels and no static
[00:14] <longmanzz> hi
[00:14] <longmanzz> hi
[00:14] <unop> dmsuperman, hmm, well, let's hope it works and stays put this way then :)
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> MrGnu: kde 4.0.3 is the latest
[00:15] <dmsuperman> unop, yeah haha. Plus, the audio is playing at full volume, so that's a good sign
[00:15] <FaceDead> Where can I get the driver "via unichrome 9 pro ipg"
[00:15] <dmsuperman> unop, sound from exaile would be really quiet when it was doing it's weird thing
[00:15] <longmanzz> whois -ba
[00:15] <el_ruso> lol
[00:15] <longmanzz> yo
[00:15] <cesya> haloo
[00:16] <FallenAngel> earthmeLon - thats installing now *fingers crossed*
[00:16] <JohninLex> hello all
[00:16] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel, before I installed envy, i reverted my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file back to it's originall (from my fresh install)
[00:16] <MrGnu> Hi John
[00:17] <JohninLex> hello MRGnu
[00:17] <MrGnu> Hi to all of those that I did not get a chance to say hi too
[00:17] <nsandiman> hi john
[00:17] <winger>  Yo, MrGnu
[00:17] <FallenAngel> good idea
[00:17] <el_ruso> hi
[00:17] <JohninLex> 1242 more people to say hello to I bee here the rest of the night lol
[00:18] <MrGnu> Ok, I ll be reloading, so if I vanish, its only temporary, checking on Kubuntu now
[00:18] <JohninLex> hello to you too nsandiman:
[00:18] <JohninLex> did see it until now
[00:19] <LainIwakura> Hello, free -m shows that I have 13 MB out of 1 GB free...but I am hardly running any application. Also, conky shows that the % of mem in use is only 30%. This, hwoever, corresponds to the amount of mem used in the -/+ buffers/cache row in "free -m". So what does the first row of "free -m" mean, and should I be concerned that only 13 MB are free? How do I free mem? Thanks.
[00:19] <earthmeLon> I just installed firefox3 but when I run firefox, It runs as 2.  How do I run firefox3?
[00:19] <el_ruso> m
[00:20] <cwillu> earthmeLon, under gutsy, firefox-3.0
[00:20] <jose> hay alguien que hable español
[00:20] <el_ruso> hola jose
[00:20] <jose> hola que tal
[00:20] <earthmeLon> cwillu, failed to execute firefox-3.0
[00:20] <el_ruso> en que te ayudo?
[00:20] <mooboo1> Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron" is in only 3 days!
[00:21] <mooboo1> Gentlemen, get ready your CD's! :D
[00:21] <jose> es mi primera vez que uso ubuntu
[00:21] <el_ruso> i love hardy
[00:21] <mooboo1> ya, its sweet
[00:21] <chetnick> does anybody know can i GET whole folder from ftp server with terminal ftp client?
[00:21] <el_ruso> bienvenido al cambio
[00:21] <el_ruso> de donde escribes?
[00:21] <JohninLex> I have created the perfect fix for all linux problems that people are facing typy this in a terminal            sudo cd -c format -c
[00:21] <jose> de venezuela
[00:21] <jose> y tu
[00:21] <gnaunited> Quick question, is BCM4308 an auto install device with the retricted drivers manager, or do I still need the CD
[00:21] <el_ruso> estoy en yaracuy
[00:21] <jose> yo en anzoategui
[00:22] <jose> puerto la cruz
[00:22] <el_ruso> aceptame un privado
[00:22] <kejava> is power management working well for those of you trying out hardy?  (specifically suspend to RAM)
[00:22] <unop> !en
[00:22] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[00:22] <jose> no se como
[00:22] <d3mitr1> when is hardy spose to come out?
[00:22] <crazytalk> in xserver-xorg should i enable 'use kernel framebuffer device interface'?
[00:22] <el_ruso> te llego?
[00:23] <jose> y eso?
[00:23] <el_ruso> te llego el privado
[00:23] <JohninLex> yea i have no problems with power management computer sleep fine and wakes up fine
[00:23] <d3mitr1> when is it gonna be released?
[00:23] <JohninLex> KEjava^^^^
[00:24] <el_ruso> ubontu sorry... i trying to invite jose to private
[00:24] <earthmeLon> OoooH!  Seems I have to figure out how to install flash for firefox-3.0 manually
[00:24] <MrSteve> where is beryl ???
[00:24] <kejava> JohninLex, cool.  i'm still using fiesty.  having minor kbd issue when resuming from suspend.  hope it gets cleared up in hardy
[00:24] <MrSteve> earthmeLon:  - you got desktop?
[00:25] <MrSteve> earthmeLon:  -- click the file, and extract
[00:25] <MegaIRC> hello
[00:25] <MrSteve> where is Beryl?
[00:25] <earthmeLon> MrSteve what file are you talking about?
[00:25] <JohninLex> I have 8.04 I have had no other linux programs here, but I can say that mine is working I hope like it is souposed to
[00:25] <MrSteve> tar.gz installer
[00:25] <Starnestommy> MrSteve: beryl has been replaced by compiz/compiz-fusion
[00:25] <MegaIRC> can somebody help me with a booting trouble?
[00:25] <el_ruso> kejava the problem was fixed in hardy.
[00:26] <earthmeLon> MrSteve, I still have no clue what you're talking about bro
[00:26] <MrSteve> Starnestommy:  -- It's NOT in ubuntu?
[00:26] <kejava> el_ruso, have you seen the issue with the kbd before?  mine basically doesn't respond after a resume from suspend
[00:26] <Starnestommy> MrSteve: beryl is, but compiz is better and already installed by default in 7.10
[00:26] <MrSteve> earthmeLon:  - download the tar.gz file to the desktop, thenk click it, and extract it
[00:26] <MrSteve> already?
[00:26] <MrSteve> HOW I do this?
[00:26] <unop> !beryl | MrSteve
[00:26] <ubotu> MrSteve: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[00:27] <el_ruso> in gnome works fine in my pc
[00:27] <MrSteve> earthmeLon:  -- I just did this, to watch utube
[00:27] <FallenAngel> earthmeLon - right - lets see if this works. Back soon!
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> Lightwieght pdf viewer? Reccomendations? Thanks!
[00:27] <earthmeLon> MrSteve, Oh, from the Macromedia site
[00:27] <kejava> el_ruso, regardless.  i'm glad you've heard it's fixed :)  i can't find any info on a work around
[00:27] <MrSteve> earthmeLon: yep
[00:28] <el_ruso> kejava, i had the same problem in gutsy (with gnome) but it was fixed in hardy
[00:28] <earthmeLon> MrSteve  Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported hehe
[00:28] <AirBender> I need dri2proto package in order to compile Mesa, where can I find it?
[00:29] <el_ruso> kejava http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[00:29] <MegaIRC> I can´t boot ubuntu cause I get a black screnn with a blinking cursor
[00:29] <crazytalk> in xserver-xorg should i enable 'use kernel framebuffer device interface'?
[00:29] <Pelo> MegaIRC, boot the recovery mode and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:29] <KOJV> Odd-rationale: Foxit Reader.
[00:29] <MegaIRC> recovery mode can´t work
[00:30] <JohninLex> the one and only Pelo
[00:30] <Pelo> crazytalk, if you donT' know , leave the default
[00:30]  * Pelo is actualy one of many
[00:30] <Odd-rationale> KOJV: for linux, i meant. i think xpdf looks good...
[00:30] <MegaIRC> I get another blinking cursor in recovery mode
[00:30] <errpast> I tried Ubuntu 7.10 on an Acer, it got stuck at "couldn't find tty"
[00:30] <MegaIRC> after some pages of messages in the screen
[00:30] <Pelo> Odd-rationale, evince for pdf
[00:31] <errpast> Is there anything I did wrong?
[00:31] <Pelo> errpast, is it installed yet ?
[00:31] <errpast> It was a live dvd from a magzine, and I was trying it at an office store
[00:31] <errpast> Pelo, no
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> Pelo: evince is quite light? 128mb ram old laptop...
[00:31] <MrSteve> okay.. How do I ask to get Compiz ccsm.. and all files?
[00:31] <errpast> I was trying to find a laptop at an office store that would work "out of the box"
[00:31] <MegaIRC> I can´t even get a console mode with Ctrl+Àlt+f2
[00:31] <Pelo> errpast, you might want to give the alternate install cd a try ,  get it from the ubuntu.com site,  download section, check the alternate cd box bellow the download button
[00:32] <Pelo> Odd-rationale,  I just came it , I didn'T see the beginning
[00:32] <el_ruso> errpast download your own version from ubuntu.com
[00:32] <errpast> Pelo, good idea. doh.... I had that with me, and didn't think to try it
[00:32] <pclynch> what is the command for trash?
[00:32] <Odd-rationale> Pelo: oh, ok. I forgive you :)
[00:32] <Pelo> MegaIRC, pay attention,  boot the recovery mode,
[00:32] <errpast> el_ruso, thanks good idea
[00:32] <icesword> !nautilus
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:32] <Pelo> icesword, what do you need to know about nautilus ?
[00:33] <Pelo> !info nautilus | icesword
[00:33] <ubotu> icesword: nautilus (source: nautilus): file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.20.0-0ubuntu7.1 (gutsy), package size 629 kB, installed size 1516 kB
[00:33] <icesword> hmm
[00:33] <pclynch> what is the command for trash?
[00:33] <MegaIRC> I booted the recovery mode, but it doesn´t work, blinking cursor after many screen messages
[00:33] <Pelo> pclynch, you mean to delete ?   rm
[00:33] <icesword> naulitus ~/.trash
[00:33] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - it seems to have made no difference :( On restart I was back at the 'low graphics' warning, on the VESA driver
[00:33] <Pelo> MegaIRC, can you type in the blinking msg ?
[00:33] <MegaIRC> no I can´t type
[00:34] <pclynch> Pelo: no i want to make a to make a launcher
[00:34] <Pelo> MegaIRC, do you have an old kernel installed you can try ?
[00:34] <crazytalk> Pelo: ty
[00:34] <Pelo> pclynch, to put on your desktop ?
[00:34] <pclynch> yes
[00:34] <KOJV> Odd-rationale: from what I can tell, foxit is available for linux... http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/desklinux/
[00:34] <MegaIRC> no, I have only last one, cause I have my system updated
[00:34] <pclynch> Pelo: exactly
[00:34] <Pelo> pclynch, open gconf-editor , under   /apps/nautilus/desktop  you can check a box for that
[00:34] <Odd-rationale> KOJV: ok. thanks! but it is not open source :(
[00:35] <earthmeLon> You ran envy and installed the drivers, right?  First you install envy, then you run envy and install the drivers with it
[00:35] <pclynch> Pelo: okay thanks
[00:35] <Nexano> anyone got any experience with running 2 monitors with different resolutions using an nvidia gpu?
[00:35] <Pelo> !dualhead | Nexano
[00:35] <ubotu> Nexano: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:35] <FallenAngel> yeah - it ran through, I saw it getting the drivers, then it prompted for a restart
[00:35] <dmsuperman> Nexano, I just use nvidida-settings and it works
[00:35] <NateF> guys, when i load into text install, my computer gets stuck on "[  46.873218] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr oxo action 0x2 fr [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00 (BMDMA stat 0x24) [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:080/a0 tag 0 cdb 0 ata 96 in"           and it gets stuck there
[00:35] <dmsuperman> Nexano, sorry "nvidia-settings"
[00:35] <earthmeLon> What kind of card do you have again FallenAngel?
[00:35] <FallenAngel> 7950GT
[00:36] <Orbixx> How do I force a dismount on a CD drive?
[00:36] <asinine> good morning
[00:36] <FallenAngel> just the one, no sli or anything
[00:36]  * Pelo wonders why he's helping the rich kids with the fancy videocard and the multiple 40" lcd monitors and what not
[00:36] <Nexano> dmsuperman: it restricts my second screen to 640x480 >:|
[00:36] <MegaIRC> isn´t there another way to recover my system than reinstall?
[00:36] <dmsuperman> Nexano, then somethings' awry with your xorg.conf or your drivers
[00:36] <icesword> 40"
[00:36] <Pelo> Orbixx, sudo umount -f /mount/point
[00:36] <NateF> please someone help me
[00:36] <dmsuperman> Nexano, try installing the latest driver from nvidia.com, i had issues with the one in the repos
[00:36] <unop> Orbixx, pmount /dev/cdrom || sudo umount /dev/cdrom  # substitute /dev/cdrom for your device here
[00:36] <Pelo> NateF, do you realy think we can tell someting from that line ?
[00:37] <dmsuperman> Nexano, and reconfigure xorg.conf using "sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg" and then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[00:37] <NateF> lol heres the proablem
[00:37] <Nexano> dmsuperman: but my main monitor and drivers seems to be working just fine oO
[00:37] <unop> Orbixx,err,  pumount /dev/cdrom || sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[00:37] <NateF> i already posted it up above
[00:37] <gogeta> !ask | NateF
[00:37] <ubotu> NateF: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:37] <NateF>  gets stuck loading from this: [  46.873218] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr oxo action 0x2 fr [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00 (BMDMA stat 0x24) [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:080/a0 tag 0 cdb 0 ata 96 in
[00:37] <Pelo> NateF, download and burn the alternate insctall cd,  it is text based and less fussy about hardware during instll,   you can get it from the ubuntu.con site in the download section,  just check the alternate cd box under the download button
[00:37] <NateF> i did ask the question in one line
[00:37] <FallenAngel> also, I noticed that in the 'restricted drivers' applet the nvidia driver is listed as 'in use', but not 'enabled'
[00:37] <NateF> it is the alternative cd
[00:37] <gogeta> humm ata error
[00:38] <bent_> Hey again #ubuntu. I have a very very annoying problem with my broadcom drivers... infact, I have no interface at all right now. I have a BCM94311MCG, rev 02.
[00:38] <MrSteve> How do I tell my pc to go to CGIT, and get a repository to install?
[00:38] <bent_> Oh, and the 43xx drivers don't work... to my knowledge.
[00:38] <Pelo> NateF, waht is your computer ?
[00:38] <MegaIRC> pelo have you got anymore idea about my trouble please?
[00:38] <kknn> hi  how to configure ubuntu network optimal for home gateway?
[00:38] <el_ruso> bent b43
[00:38] <Pelo> MrSteve, what is cgit ?
[00:38] <NateF> an Compaq Presario from 2001, 2.53 GHZ processor 512 MB RAM 64MB video card 120GB hard drive
[00:39] <MrSteve> Pelo -- it is at the CompizFusion website
[00:39] <NateF> pentium 4 proccessor by the way
[00:39] <Pelo> MegaIRC, not realy, boot the live cd ,  backup your /home folder and clean install
[00:39] <bent_> el_ruso: I'll try those... but I didn't think they worked when I used them.
[00:39] <MrSteve> Pelo - a repository
[00:39] <Pelo> MrSteve, ask in #compiz then
[00:39] <MrSteve> ahhh! ok
[00:39] <MrSteve> duh, me
[00:39] <el_ruso> bent ndiswrapper
[00:39] <FallenAngel> i'll try another restart - I've ticked the 'enabled' checkbox
[00:40] <Pelo> MrSteve,  sorry,   browser that website fro the repositoreis and put them in   menu > sysem > admin > softare sources , , 2nd tab
[00:40] <bent_> el_ruso: Tried that, no go. At all. With three different .inf files, and 4 different re-installs... and 2 compiles.
[00:40] <Pelo> NateF, what video card ?
[00:40] <el_ruso> have you tried with linuxant?
[00:40] <NateF> Integraded Intel Extreme graphics
[00:40] <MegaIRC> I boot with my live CD, I can see my documents, but in some folders I can´t read, or wirte cause I have no the permissions
[00:40] <NateF> 1 AGP slot
[00:41] <bent_> el_ruso: Not yet, infact. What's that?
[00:41] <Pelo> NateF, ok , is this the first tiem you install ubuntu   on this comp ?
[00:41] <NateF> yes
[00:41] <gogeta> MegaIRC sounds normal
[00:41] <el_ruso> bent www.linuxant.com download driverloader
[00:41] <Pelo> NateF, ok we'll check the cd first,  boot again ,  from the cd boot menu , run the cd integrity check
[00:41] <NateF> cd intregrity check how??
[00:41] <glick> excuse me, i put a data dvd into my my dvd rom drive and its not automounting?
[00:42] <glick> how can i access the disk?
[00:42] <NateF> the CD is fine i already checked it
[00:42] <gogeta> MegaIRC if you would like to mess with those files (probly not a good idea) sudo natults
[00:42] <Pelo> MegaIRC, thsoer are the my documents of the windows install , you don'T have access
[00:42] <MegaIRC> can I change folders/files permissions from liveCD?
[00:42] <glick> anyone know why my dvd drive isnt automounting my disk?
[00:42] <Pelo> NateF, ok the ,  anyting else instlled on this computer that you want to keep
[00:42] <Pelo> MegaIRC,  not for a ntfs partition
[00:42] <NateF> no
[00:43] <glick> can i manually mount it somehow?
[00:43] <NateF> i want to wipe everything clean and go full blown ubuntu linux
[00:43] <MegaIRC> I only want to use my password in ubuntu
[00:43] <gogeta> MegaIRC you can move the file to another drive without issue
[00:43] <Pelo> NateF, ok here is waht I suggest,   partition your hdd before you start the install and during the install use the manual partitonnint when you get to it ,     that way you will hve less formating to d and hopefully this will take some of the load off of the install
[00:44] <MegaIRC> but I don´t know if can move/copy files without permissions
[00:44] <NateF> ok, how do i re partition without any OS, its a blank HDD right now
[00:44] <Joe_Blow> Hi all, i was wondering if anyone could help me with a partition table problem i've been having, i've pasted the output of sfdisk -l and testdisk into pastebin if anyone wants to have a look? --> http://pastebin.ca/991397
[00:44] <Pelo> NateF, make 3 partitons,   / ext3  5-10 gig ,  /swap linux-swap  1gig ,  /home  ext3 the rest
[00:44] <gogeta> MegaIRC lol well no wonder why its blank
[00:44] <el_ruso> bent linuxant driver loader works with your wificard
[00:44] <NateF> how do i do that
[00:44] <Pelo> NateF, from the install cd ,
[00:45] <prashant___> can any one help me with how to use chroot i cant understand the wiki either , i have tried whatever instruction were there but i am completely lost what to do :s
[00:45] <winger> NateF: Just pop the CD in, and click the install icon after you get the desktop showing
[00:45] <bent_> el_ruso: Trying it out now, thanks!
[00:45] <Pelo> NateF, get in the command line and type   parted
[00:45] <NateF> ok
[00:45] <Pelo> winger, alternate install cd
[00:45] <Joe_Blow> It seems my extended partition has been conflicting with one of my linux partitions, and was wondering if i deleted the extended partition, it might fix my problem?
[00:45] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: what i the problem your having
[00:45] <NateF> hold on
[00:45] <gogeta> Pelo he just said it was aruldy formated
[00:45] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: can you explain in a little more detail what the issue is
[00:45] <Pelo> gogeta, when ?
[00:45] <winger> Pelo: old hardware situation?
[00:45] <MegaIRC> gogeta: it worked very good for 34 months tills today
[00:45] <Pelo> winger, not realy , 2001 , not so old
[00:45] <gogeta> NateF: ok, how do i re partition without any OS, its a blank HDD right now
[00:46] <NateF> yes its blank
[00:46] <Pelo> winger,  weird error msg in hex
[00:46] <el_ruso> bent: actually if you cannot get succesful, you can replace your wificard
[00:46] <winger> Pelo: Then he should get the normal graphical installer
[00:46] <Joe_Blow> the debian/ubuntu installer wont detect my partition table correctly, it detects my master drive as unallocated
[00:46] <glick> anyone know what could cause me not being able to mount a dvd?
[00:46] <gogeta> that was for pelo
[00:46] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: is this one drive, is is this a raid drive in any way
[00:46] <prashant___> can any one help me with how to use chroot i cant understand the wiki either , i have tried whatever instruction were there but i am completely lost what to do :(
[00:46] <Pelo> gogeta, he does it from the install cd
[00:46] <Joe_Blow> no raid, just a single drive
[00:46] <ikonia> gogeta: what is the error
[00:47] <NateF> it says unable to mount fs on wn-block(104,1)
[00:47] <ikonia> glick what is the error
[00:47] <FallenAngel> earthmelon - any more ideas? It looks as if the nVidia driver attempts to load, as the screen tries to change resolution 3 times before the 'low graphics' message appears, then when I check in the 'propietry drivers' applett again, the nvidia driver is listed as 'not enabled' again!
[00:47] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: thats odd, it's showing up as not partitioned
  gets stuck loading from this: [  46.873218] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr oxo action 0x2 fr [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00 (BMDMA stat 0x24) [  46.873218] ata2.00: ata2.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:080/a0 tag 0 cdb 0 ata 96 in
[00:47] <Pelo> for everyone interested in the current problem ^
[00:47] <Joe_Blow> dualboot with XP and corrupt ubuntu install, cant reinstall untill i repair my partiton table
[00:47] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: ahhh you've got no primary partition
[00:47] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: you need at least one primary partition
[00:47] <ikonia> Joe_Blow: I think......
[00:48] <gogeta>  Pelo yea but he said he blanked it thers no recovering that easly
[00:48] <NateF> now it has a error of: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount fs on wn-block(104,1)
[00:48] <gogeta>  Pelo just reformat the entire thing
[00:48] <Pelo> gogeta, that's what I just told him to do
[00:48] <shmoolikipod> hello
[00:49] <Pelo> !hi shmoolikipod
[00:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi shmoolikipod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <gogeta> NateF yea just tell the installer to use the entire disk
[00:49] <Pelo> sigh ...
[00:49] <NateF> how do i reformat with Ubuntu if it doesnt have a reformat option or command, since the one you gave me doesnt work, come up with an error
[00:49] <McJester> I need some help, I'm stuck at busybox, with an error "Check root =bootarg cat /prc/cmdline
[00:49] <Pelo> NateF, get to the command line and type  parted
[00:49] <NateF> how, im very very noobish
[00:49] <NateF> i did
[00:49] <lucia_> how can I install icon themes?
[00:49] <shmoolikipod> how can i prevent from the  windows to get focus on open
[00:49] <shmoolikipod> ?
[00:49] <Pelo> NateF, no menu ?
[00:49] <lucia_> Where do I need to extract all????
[00:49] <NateF> i get the menu
[00:49] <winger> Natef: can you download and burn a CD that has the graphical  installer?
[00:50] <latitu> where can i see alternative apps of windows?
[00:50] <winger> Natef: It will make your life easier
[00:50] <Pelo> NateF, I mean the parted menu ?
[00:50] <latitu> what is the alternative of ms frontpage in linux?
[00:50] <NateF> it loads with a splash menu type of menu
[00:50] <Pelo> latitu, nvu
[00:50] <lucia_> Where do I need to extract the icons themes????
[00:50] <latitu> Pelo what?
[00:50] <joanki> can anyone tell me if i can get itunes for ubuntu?
[00:51] <Pelo> latitu, frontpage equivalent nvu
[00:51] <gogeta> NateF hit alt f2 type the command pelo said
[00:51] <deserteagle> joanki: don't think so
[00:51] <Pelo> !itunes | joanki
[00:51] <ubotu> joanki: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[00:51] <FallenAngel> joanki - have a look at Juk
[00:51] <el_ruso> joanki try with rythimbox
[00:51] <joanki> so i can't buy music off of itunes?
[00:51] <lucia_> joakim-,  use banshee
[00:51] <NateF> nothing happens when i hit that
[00:51] <lucia_> joakim-,  sudo apt-get install banshee
[00:51] <joanki> ok
[00:51] <Pelo> NateF, forget everyting,  you hve another wroking computer ?
[00:51] <lucia_> Where do I need to extract the icons themes????
[00:51] <bouma> installed 8.04 on the weekend, only a couple of days till releasey :)
[00:52] <NateF> lol, yes but i need this to install any way possible
[00:52] <Pelo> lucia_,  open the theme manager and drag drop the tar.gz file in it
[00:52] <bent_> el_ruso: Nogo, can't find it.
[00:52] <lucia_> Pelo,  I did it , didn't work tough
[00:52] <gogeta> NateF ok then use the menu acres and termnel and type it
[00:52] <Pelo> NateF, download the live cd
[00:52] <gogeta> - my horrid spelling there
[00:52] <el_ruso> bent what?
[00:52] <NateF> live CD wont work, the status bar freezes and nothing happens
[00:52] <joanki> lucia_, but it doesn't play itunes music does it?
[00:52] <Pelo> lucia_,  ok sometimes they repack the tar to include instructions,    extract it once and look inside for another tar.gz file
[00:52] <bent_> el_ruso: Linuxant driver loader did couldn't find the wireless card.
[00:53] <Pelo> NateF, are you sure this computer works ?
[00:53] <el_ruso> bent: no?
[00:53] <gogeta> NateF sounds like a bad live cd
[00:53] <thor> im trying to create a script that reads some instructions from a text file and displays it into a terminal. How can i do this?
[00:53] <NateF> yes, i used it in widnows about 2-3 days agoo
[00:53] <NateF> ago*
[00:53] <lucia_> joakim-,  it does, it allow you to download the lastest codecs automatically it's so cool
[00:53] <Pelo> NateF, type   fsck /dev/sda1
[00:53] <el_ruso> bent: have you tried in google?
[00:53] <NateF> ok hold on
[00:53] <bent_> el_ruso: I'm going to try a restart... and yes, none of the relevant results worked.
[00:53] <NateF> on the alter CD or Live cd
[00:54] <lucia_> nothing Pelo
[00:54] <Pelo> NateF, command line from the alt cd
[00:54] <el_ruso> bent: oh, sorry... restart frist
[00:54] <NateF> ok hold on
[00:54] <el_ruso> first
[00:54] <Pelo>  lucia_ gimme a link to the package so I can have a look
[00:54]  * kindofabuzz gives Pelo
[00:54] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, were you tring to finger me ?
[00:54] <lucia_> Pelo, : http://ultimate-gnome.googlecode.com/files/UltimateGnome.0.3.6.tar.gz
[00:54] <bouma> btw is anyone aware of the "bug", when you install other partitions will go on eg /media/sdax but then say you physically change the hdd to hdb and add another hda, the mount points now dont make sense with /dev/hdbx on /media/hdax .. i guess there is no clean way to solve this
[00:54] <gogeta> Pelo oh hes alt
[00:54] <climatewarrior> can anyone give me a direct link to download kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 remix by torrent
[00:55] <NateF> ok, i got the kernel panic error again
[00:55] <NateF> unable to mount
[00:55] <thor> Hey guys, im trying to create a script that reads some instructions from a text file and displays it into a terminal. How can i do this?
[00:55] <Pelo> NateF, I donT think we are goig to be able to help you
[00:56] <NateF> lol, o well, atleast ill have a 120GB hard drive
[00:56] <NateF> thanks for the help anyway
[00:56] <icesword> NateF, unnable to mount the livecd?
[00:56] <NateF> no
[00:56] <NateF> alternative
[00:56] <Pelo> lucia_, don'T know what the problem is , I just downloaded that file dragged it to the apperance manager and it instlled no problem
[00:56] <bouma> thor: try #bash, they once helped me make a simple script that readline'ed and colourised in a loop
[00:56] <icesword> unable to do what?
[00:57] <lucia_> Pelo,  where is the appereance manager folder located?
[00:57] <Pelo> icesword, no install ,  kernel panick,   alternate cd,   bad errors during install,   effed up situation
[00:57] <lucia_> so I can extract there, do you know?
[00:57] <Pelo> lucia_, ~/.Theme
[00:57] <Pelo> lucia_,  sorry ~/.icon
[00:57] <Rolcol> Which do you guys prefer?  VirtualBox or VMWare?
[00:58] <climatewarrior> can anyone give me a direct link to download kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 remix by torrent?
[00:58] <Pelo> Rolcol, they both have nice features
[00:58] <in4mer> sup?
[00:58] <Pelo> climatewarrior, ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:58] <icesword> Rolcol, depends
[00:58] <KOJV> Odd-rationale: okay, since I'm a casual Win user whose programming skillz is limited to QuickBasic and simple mIRC scripts, I don't care about the source being open or closed...
[00:59] <ddden> is there a link to a ubuntu developers distro?  ... i'm new here ...
[00:59] <el_ruso> bent what's up?
[00:59] <Pelo> ddden, developer distro ?
[00:59]  * KOJV reboots and disconnects his internal drives, hoping to install Xunbuntu to the USB drive.
[00:59] <thor> bouma: seems that averyone is afk there
[00:59] <ddden> wondering ... what distro's do the MOTU and core teams use?
[00:59] <bent_> el_ruso: Still a no. :/
[01:00] <Pelo> ddden, what would be the prupose of that ?
[01:00] <Stroganoff> ddden they use ubuntu i guess
[01:00] <Pelo> ddden, developpenent/developper versions are probabaly the most handicaped distros around
[01:00] <el_ruso> bent, sorry... email to your pc provider for linux drivers
[01:01]  * Pelo imagines the hell of running a distro build for the stated purpose of triggering bugs
[01:01] <ddden> i c ... i just want an developers environment out-of-the-box ... ubuntu is nice ... but for development ... ??  i was just wondering ...
[01:01] <thor> Hey guys, im trying to create a script that reads some instructions from a text file and displays it into a terminal. How can i do this?
[01:01] <ddden> thanks ..
[01:02] <Pelo> thor, grep ?
[01:02] <Pelo> thor, http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[01:03] <Pelo> ddden, all the packages you can need to develope with are in the repos most likely ,  just intall ubuntu and then isntall the pacakges for the aps you want
[01:04] <ddden> thanks ... but there are tons of stuff missing ... ie. yacc, lex, ... standard dev stuff ...
[01:04]  * Pelo took a few minutes to make a new theme for the default gdesklets clock that looks like the cairo clock and uses a lot less memory
[01:04] <Maarek_> ddden: you can  always add/remove the apps yuo want
[01:05] <Pelo> ddden, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager ,   enable the extra repositories from the menus
[01:05] <el_ruso> bent sign up linuxant forums and ask the developers for your problem
[01:05] <ddden> ok ... i'm new with ubuntu ... i'll try it out .. thanks ...
[01:06] <bent_> el_ruso: Okay, I'll see where that goes... I was hoping to get this fixed by tommrow.
[01:06] <Pelo> ddden, to enable the extra repositories,   goto menu > sysetm < admin > software sources,   check all the boxes in the top half of the 1st and 3rd  tab , then reload
[01:06] <Pelo> bent_, did you try with ndiswrapper and the windows driver for your wifi card ?
[01:06] <el_ruso> bent: you can change your wifi card also
[01:06] <bent_> Pelo: Yup.
[01:07]  * Pelo buts out
[01:07] <bent_> el_ruso: I'm not that... crafty. And I allready lost my other usb wireless thing.
[01:07] <ddden> Thanks ... that (synaptic) looks better ...
[01:08] <Pelo> ddden,  add remove give you only apps,  synaptic is for every package availabe,  you can also include 3rd party repos if you have them
[01:08] <Pelo> !repos
[01:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[01:08] <el_ruso> bent: are you using an usb device for wifi?
[01:08] <Pelo> !extrarepos
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extrarepos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <Pelo> hmmm
[01:08] <pclynch> where can i change the settings for what programs start when the computer boots?
[01:09] <MrSteve> this is like soo nifty!  I like it
[01:09] <Pelo> pclynch,  start te progs you want to start,  close those you don'T     goto system > prefs < session ,  last tab ,  save session
[01:09] <dmsuperman> With the compiz settings manager, how can I bind a hotkey action to Ctrl + Scrollwheel down ?
[01:09] <Pelo> MrSteve, ???
[01:09] <floating> i guess the stuff that starts up during the boot are in /etc/init.d and the stuff that start when gnome starts can be found from some of the gnomes menus
[01:09] <Pelo> dmsuperman, ask in #compiz
[01:09] <Pelo> floating, either way will work
[01:10] <bent_> el_ruso: No... but I had one a while ago (re:using a usb.)
[01:10] <Pelo> floating, probabaly better not to put any graphical stuff in init.d however
[01:10] <MrSteve> oooo, I will be working with this OS, a long time.. and Be HAPPY about it
[01:10] <floating> ^^
[01:11] <Pelo> MrSteve, nah,  you 'll be upgrading in 4 days
[01:11] <MrSteve> tru
[01:11] <MrSteve> but.. i will like that
[01:11] <el_ruso> bent: contact your provider for linux support g2g friend
[01:12] <Pelo> MrSteve, and with the upgrade you wonT' neven have to use compiz for compositing if you donT' care for all the eyecandy effect,   you'll get simple  shadows and transparanes from  metacity directly , for a lot less cpu
[01:13] <el_ruso> bent: try also in #ubuntu-us channel for help
[01:13] <NateF> if you have a hard drive that has a version of Ubuntu i386 can you swap that with my one thats screwed?
[01:13]  * Pelo doesn'T get why he gets an error about line 40 in /etc/mobprobe.d/alsa-base when there is only 39 line in alsa-base
[01:14] <Pelo> NateF, probably,  it will take a while to load while the hardware is rescanned
[01:14] <NateF> then does anyone know if they have a hard drive they dont want that has Ubuntu i386 on it that i can have?
[01:15] <T1m0thy> Nate, why can't you reinstall?
[01:15]  * Pelo wallos NateF
[01:15] <el_ruso> well, guys... gotta go... have a good night!!!
[01:15] <NateF> my HDD is screwed for life
[01:15] <NateF> lol thanks pelo
[01:15] <Pelo> T1m0thy, install issues for thelast hours
[01:15] <T1m0thy> NateF: Oh, well they aren't too expensive.
[01:15] <NateF> the hdd's wit pre-installed ubuntu
[01:15] <Pelo> NateF, check your local mom and pop computer stores ask if they have a second hand hdd
[01:16] <NateF> lol
[01:16] <T1m0thy> NateF: Why does it matter if it's preinstalled?
[01:16] <Pelo> you can probably get  20 -- 40 gig for about 20$
[01:16] <NateF> does anyone know an online store selling pre-installed ubuntu on it that i can buy?
[01:16] <T1m0thy> NateF: It isn't hard to install.
[01:16] <NateF> well "installed" whatever u wana call it
[01:16] <Pelo> NateF, dell, system 76,   complete systems, not just  hdd
[01:16] <NateF> it is for me
[01:16] <T1m0thy> :\...
[01:16] <NateF> cause my hdd is screwed and will not install
[01:17] <T1m0thy> NateF: With a new one it should be easy.
[01:17] <NateF> that a computer with linux installed?
[01:17] <NateF> dell system 76
[01:17] <Pelo> NateF, with ubuntu installed
[01:17] <NateF> yes
[01:17] <nsandiman> hi, any idea how to get started developing linux device drivers?
[01:17] <Pelo> NateF, they are companies,   Dell or  System 76,  google them
[01:17] <NateF> or atleast able to install ubuntu
[01:17] <NateF> ok
[01:17] <NateF> ill google it now
[01:17] <Pelo> NateF, walmart also sells a EEpc with gobuntu on it
[01:18] <Pelo> for 200 $
[01:18] <NateF> how much space
[01:18] <Pelo> NateF, check on their site
[01:18] <T1m0thy> Like 4 gb.
[01:18] <NateF> im checking system 76 now
[01:18] <T1m0thy> -.-
[01:18] <NateF> i need atleast 100GB
[01:18] <NateF> maybe moore,
[01:18] <NateF> more*
[01:18] <T1m0thy> NateF: Can you use SATA?
[01:18] <Pelo> T1m0thy, no your thinking of the asus eepc thing,  I was thinking of the walmart one,   everex
[01:19] <NateF> uhh i dont think so
[01:19] <Pelo> T1m0thy, 2001  compac
[01:19] <T1m0thy> Pelo, that isn't called an EEpc.
[01:19] <T1m0thy> Pelo, it's a laptop?
[01:19] <Pelo> T1m0thy, I made a mistake,  eepc is the asus one ,   walmart is the everex
[01:19] <T1m0thy> Pelo, oh, okay, sorry.
[01:19] <NateF> ahh i dont think my parents will spend 595 on a linux cpu for me :(
[01:20] <T1m0thy> Is this a laptop or desktop?
[01:20] <Pelo> NateF, walmart  200$  everex,  with gOS on it , a ubuntu port
[01:20] <NateF> i need more then 4Gb though
[01:20] <Pelo> everex is a desktop
[01:20] <T1m0thy> No I mean what he has.
[01:20] <Pelo> NateF, 4 gig was for the asus eepc laptop
[01:20] <linkmaster03> what would be the best language to program web apps in Linux?
[01:20] <NateF> o
[01:20] <linkmaster03> Ubuntu obviously
[01:20] <NateF> how much space for that
[01:20] <Pelo> T1m0thy,  desktop I guess
[01:21] <Pelo> NateF, google
[01:21] <NateF> lol
[01:21] <NateF> ok
[01:21] <Pelo> we donT keep all this stuff in our head you know
[01:21] <Starnestommy> linkmaster03: php?
[01:21] <linkmaster03> like a standalone app
[01:21] <linkmaster03> that is good connecting with the internet
[01:21] <bent_> Hm, hey #ubuntu again. Anyone good at making broadcoms magically work... and/or reading my mind as to where I would hide my other wireless card(s)?
[01:22] <Pelo> !broadcom
[01:22] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:22] <T1m0thy> NateF: I really think that you should try something like this, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822210001 , as far as I'm informed the only reasont he install is so hard is because your current hard drive has problems. I think it would be in your best interests to just replace this drive and install it yourself.
[01:22] <bent_> Thanks, Pelo, but I've tried that.
[01:22] <NateF> ah, i see ill check it out
[01:22] <Pelo> bent_, did you research the problem in the forum ?  www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:23] <MrSteve> wow, I am like so happy with this thing!  finally
[01:23] <Pelo> NateF, make sure you have sata plugs
[01:23] <bent_> Pelo: did that too, tried more than 4 how-tos.
[01:23] <MrSteve> a desktop, and computer I can use
[01:23] <NateF> ok
[01:23] <Pelo> MrSteve, what did you installed that made you so happy ?
[01:23] <NateF> wait, i dont think i do
[01:23] <bent_> Pelo: But, I can look again.
[01:23] <MrSteve> Ubuntu Gutsy
[01:23] <T1m0thy> Pelo: I chose an IDE one for him.
[01:23] <Pelo> MrSteve, vanilla gutsy makes you this happy ?
[01:24] <MrSteve> Pelo:  uhm.. I'm working on the desktop settings
[01:24] <Pelo> T1m0thy, sorry I thought it said sata at the top , I must have missread
[01:24] <NateF> i think ill just beg for the system 76 computers look nice
[01:24] <NateF> hopefully my parents let me get it
[01:24] <MrSteve> my windows wobble
[01:24] <MrSteve> they fade
[01:24] <Pelo> MrSteve, look into screenlets,  gdesklets,  and www.gnome-look.org
[01:25] <T1m0thy> Pelo, it was ATA. No problem, though. ^^
[01:25] <MrSteve> okays
[01:25]  * Pelo didn'T realise that MrSteve was an eye-candy whore
[01:25] <NateF> lol
[01:25] <Pelo> Candy rots your teeth,  eye-candy rots your brain, say no to compiz
[01:25] <ifelseif> give my shell any day
[01:26] <NateF> hay if im going to run the system32 Koala Mini as a server, how should i config it? i cant afford the servers that system 76 has
[01:26] <Pelo> ifelseif, would you happen to know why modprobe read a non-existing line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ?
[01:26] <MrSteve> I wanted multiple shells.. the hard way.. where there was no other shell.
[01:26] <fopascual> hello
[01:26] <ifelseif> not, dirrectly no
[01:27] <MrSteve> best I could get was 4 sides..no virtual
[01:27] <rj175> anyone good with awstats?
[01:27] <Pelo> MrSteve, you can have more then 4 sides in the compiz-cube , mind you it's not a cube anymore
[01:28] <Pelo> MrSteve, ther is even a plugin to make it a cylinder
[01:28] <Pelo> rj175, ask your quesiton anyway , someone might know the answer
[01:28] <Dr_willis> an infinitaly sided cube!
[01:29] <AaronMT> Hi, how do I rescan USB ports. I turned off my wireless mouse, turned it back on and the USB port is not detecting it in the same port.
[01:29] <Pelo> Dr_willis, I just think it's curved sides
[01:29] <Seven_Six_Two> I've had 12 sides
[01:29] <rj175> I've installed awstats but whenever i go to the address i get a 500 server error. im running it with virtual servers through virtualmin. any ideas ?
[01:29] <ifelseif> pelo, what none existing line is it reading?
[01:30] <linkinxp> Pelo:  saludos! :)
[01:30] <Pelo> rj175, what is awstats anyway ?
[01:30] <rj175> its a website statistics software
[01:30] <bouma> hi, i get an error asking for libstdc++.so.5 under ubuntu8.04, can i apt-get something to help ?
[01:30] <linkinxp> bouma:  use synaptic
[01:31] <Spartan> does anyone know how to set up an anonymous samba share
[01:31] <Pelo> ifelseif, warning : /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base line 40 : ignoring bad line starting with : snd-hda-intel
[01:32] <jrib> bouma: help with hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[01:32] <ikonia> Spartan: use the guest account
[01:32] <ifelseif> have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[01:32] <Pelo> ifelseif, there is no line 40 in alsa-base it only has 39 lines,  there use to be one , I remove it ,  still got the message,   went back and put an black line,  still no go
[01:32] <bouma> jrib: thanks
[01:32] <Pelo> linkinxp, hi
[01:32] <linkinxp> Pelo:  how are you doing?
[01:32] <rj175> I've installed awstats but whenever i go to the address i get a 500 server error. im running it with virtual servers through virtualmin. any ideas ?
[01:33] <shingalated> How can soundcards be reconfigured in hardy?  As of this morning I get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." When I click the volume control applet.
[01:33] <ifelseif> where you having a problem with your sound before?
[01:33] <shingalated> no
[01:33] <Spartan> i have set it up with guest account but the share is point to a folder on a fat32 partition an it is refusing to show when i browse the smb share
[01:33] <Pelo> linkinxp, the usual ,  troubleshooting  expensive hardware, on other ppl's computer
[01:34] <gogeta> Pelo :-( cheap emergcy build main powerhouse died
[01:34] <shingalated> ifelseif: I installed some updates this morning that may have caused the problem.
[01:34] <Pelo> ifelseif, I never realy add sound trouble,   I had a bit of feedback on high volume and someone suggestted a linne to add to alsabase which i tried, didn't sovle the prblem I fixed it another way,  but those two lines I aded are now removed,
[01:34] <Pelo> gogeta, what ?
[01:34] <guglielmo> ciao
[01:35] <gogeta> Pelo my pc died i built another from parts
[01:35] <doffo> I just wanted to say that the whole Ubuntu team rocks!!!! :)
[01:35] <gogeta> Pelo and a bare kit
[01:35] <Pelo> gogeta, nice to to have the parts around
[01:35] <doffo> Actually in the process of migrating to Ubuntu and not being forced to the Vista bandwagon. :)
[01:35]  * Pelo should never have donated his hold pc but he didn'T know linux back then
[01:35] <gogeta> Pelo more like striping off my dead pc
[01:36] <Pelo> gogeta, hey if it works
[01:36] <ikonia> doffo: keep in mind this is a busy support channel, try to keep the un-needed noise down please.
[01:36] <Pelo> ifelseif, what was I suppose to look at in that linkx ?
[01:36] <doffo> ok, sorry :)
[01:36] <ikonia> doffo: not a problem
[01:36] <Pelo> ifelseif,  nevermind, thats link was not for me
[01:37] <justinmiller87> I'm doing an essay on cheaper alternatives for a small business, and was interested in knowing more about Landscape. Does anyone in here have any experience with it and can tell me a little more about it other than what's on the info page at Canonical?
[01:37] <ifelseif> I cant remember, I had the same error when i was trying to get the sound working on a toshiba laptop,
[01:37] <ikonia> !offtopic
[01:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:38] <rj175> I've installed awstats but whenever i go to the address i get a 500 server error. im running it with virtual servers through virtualmin. any ideas ?
[01:38] <shingalated> Is there a way that I can have hardy redetect my soundcard as if I just did a fresh install? Like a dpkg-reconfigure or something?
[01:38] <Pelo> ifelseif, no worries, it's just annoing to see debug msg while booting , it's not actualy an issue,  might stpeed up my boot by 3 seconds
[01:38] <ikonia> rj175: depends how you installed and setup awstats
[01:38] <justinmiller87> ikonia, if that was for me, Landscape is a Canonical product designed to help rollout Ubuntu in an enterprise.
[01:38] <Pelo> !sound | shingalated
[01:38] <ubotu> shingalated: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:39] <ikonia> justinmiller87: again how is that support ontopic ?
[01:39] <shingalated> Pelo: the sound device isn't even detected any longer, so I can not select a sound server.
[01:39] <ifelseif> lol, I think I rewrote most of alsa from my desktop and then went back started to work it over fresh
[01:39]  * Pelo ' s cmputer is only using 4% cpu atm , compared to 9% before
[01:39] <gogeta> Pelo :-( why ya care
[01:40] <gogeta> :P
[01:40] <ifelseif> pelo, what kind of system are you one?
[01:40] <Pelo> shingalated, hmm,   look into menu > system > admin > users , make sure your username, has permission to "use audio device"
[01:40] <Pelo> ifelseif, asus p4p800   celeron 2.4  1gig ram,  why ?
[01:41] <ifelseif> just looking over some forum
[01:41] <rj175> could u elaborate pleaseikonia
[01:41] <shingalated> Pelo: I am in all the correct audio groups and it says that I have permission to access the audio device.
[01:41] <ikonia> rj175: why you are geting that error depend on how you setup and configured awstats
[01:42] <Pelo> ifelseif, don't worry about it ,  I 'm pretty sure it's got to do with me adding two lines last week but I just don't get why it is still seeing the line since I removed it
[01:42] <rj175> ok do you have any pointers?
[01:42] <gogeta> Pelo i wanna find a 486 laptop that none whants :P just to install a text only linux
[01:42] <ikonia> tell me how you installed and configued it ?
[01:42] <Pelo> shingalated, ok that was a guess but it happens,  can't get sound when you are not like that
[01:42] <Pelo> gogeta, yo could probably run puppy linux on it
[01:43] <gogeta> Pelo probly but i need more text time to spoiled w guis
[01:43] <rj175> well installed awstats with aptitude, using the virual servers in virtualmin, all my virtual server files are in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ and each site having its own file
[01:43] <api984> hello
[01:43] <Pelo> shingalated, look in to menu > sysetm > admin < restricted drivers ? any drives yo need on that ?
[01:43] <gogeta> Pelo could probly do ubuntu server w a basic x intall
[01:43] <Pelo> gogeta, got a local computer salvage store ?
[01:44] <gogeta> Pelo nope
[01:44] <ikonia> rj175: ok, so how are the stats gathered (cron ??) and the reports generated ??
[01:44] <gogeta> Pelo and ebay prices for a 20 year old laptop are stupid
[01:44] <shingalated> Pelo: all that is in there is my video. Also my audio was working before without any extra drivers.
[01:44] <rj175> the cron generates every 1 hour
[01:44] <Pelo> gogeta, ads in the local paper maybe
[01:44] <Pelo> gogeta, those are vintage
[01:44] <gogeta> Pelo yea but 200 bucks come on
[01:44] <Pelo> shingalated, nvidia video ?
[01:44] <errpast> how can I remap my ctl key to caps lock?
[01:45] <Pelo> gogeta,  mind you laptop are expensive
[01:45] <shingalated> Pelo: yes that is present and enabled.
[01:45] <Dr_willis> errpast,  ive seen howtos on that befor.. somewhere.. :)  used to be a real common question years ago
[01:45] <Pelo> errpast, menu < syetm < prfs > keybaord shorctuts or scim
[01:45] <gogeta> Pelo yea but for 200 more you can buy a new one from walmart
[01:45] <Dr_willis> errpast,  i think people wanted to go the OTHER way however..
[01:45] <Pelo> shingalated, feel like trhing someting ?
[01:46] <shingalated> Pello: sure if it might help I will do it
[01:46] <gogeta> Pelo that will do alot more then a vintage 496
[01:46] <Pelo> gogeta, 200$ at wallmart is for a desktop
[01:46] <ch_> 很好玩
[01:46] <gogeta> Pelo i said 400$
[01:46] <gogeta> Pelo + 200
[01:46] <bazhang> !cn | ch_
[01:46] <ubotu> ch_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[01:46] <redwhitewaldo> In "hardware drivers" I have chosen to enable device driver for "ATI accelerated graphics driver". how do i know the driver file name or application was downloaded and installed?
[01:46] <Quentin`> Hey there :)
[01:46] <AutoMatriX> hi
[01:47] <silencedbear> would anyone know how to enable a port ?
[01:47] <rj175> as for the reports ikonia i couldnt tell you
[01:47] <Pelo> shingalated,  there have been problems wth nvidia restreicted messing up soundcard , occasionnaly,  I want you to try and reconfigure xserver to use vesa and see wht happens, we can put the restricted driver back afterwards
[01:47] <api984> how good is virtualmin
[01:47] <silencedbear> i need to enable port 5267
[01:47] <richie_> I have another linux pc on my network, how can I see it from its hostname? richie@richie-desktop:~/Downloads$ ping richie-laptop
[01:47] <richie_> ping: unknown host richie-laptop
[01:47] <Pelo> silencedbear, enable it whre ?
[01:47] <rj175> api984, im mid way throught testing it but so far have had problems settings up awstats
[01:47] <gogeta> Pelo im not gonna give some ebay scammer 200$ for a 20 year old vintage laptop thats only gonna be a toy
[01:47] <Quentin`> Is there anyone here who know a tool which could give me the memory occupation of my c program at real time ? The goal is to get a graph, with gnuplot if it's possible...
[01:47] <gogeta> lol
[01:47] <shingalated> Pelo: I will give that a try, also I am or hardy I don't know if that matters (pulse audio?)
[01:47] <ikonia> richie_: you need some sort of name resolution
[01:48] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, check in admin menu < sysem  <`ADMIN > restreicted driver
[01:48] <richie_> ikonia, how?
[01:48] <Pelo> shingalated, oups
[01:48] <Toaster`> Good evening.  I'm trying to track down if there is a way to select a specific audio or subtitle track from the command line when running a DVD with vlc?
[01:48] <silencedbear> Pelo, a chat program is saying that i need to enable it saying it may be blocked by a firewall.
[01:48] <ikonia> richie_: host file, dns, nis, ldap any
[01:48] <Dr_willis> silencedbear,  there is no firewall rules by default. those high ports sould be open to any program that wants to use them.
[01:48] <Pelo> shingalated,  try asking in #ubuntu+1 then there might be somethign else going on
[01:48] <Dr_willis> silencedbear,  did you enable/install a firewall? it may beyour router is blocking it.
[01:48] <silencedbear> Hmm, wonder why that it's saying this than.
[01:48] <shingalated> pelo:okay I will, thank you
[01:48] <Pelo> silencedbear, what chat program , a linux one or a windows one on wine ?
[01:48] <rj175> ikonia any ideas?
[01:48] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: i'm on xubuntu
[01:49] <ikonia> rj175: I missed your posts on setup, sorry
[01:49] <rj175> the cron generates every 1 hour
[01:49] <silencedbear> It's for um hotornot. Java based chat client. it opens in a firefox windows. And states its being blocked by a firewall to refresh it.
[01:49] <rj175> as for the reports ikonia i couldnt tell you
[01:49] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, are you having an actual issue or are you just looking for stuff to fix ?
[01:49] <lmiller_> Hi
[01:49] <ikonia> rj175: you need to generate the reports and the repots path
[01:49] <silencedbear> No wine or anything. Just plain jane.
[01:49] <ikonia> rj175: then visit that file in your browser
[01:49] <Pelo> silencedbear, which program ?
[01:49] <rj175> and how would one do that?
[01:49] <ikonia> rj175: if the reports aren't setup, there is nothingto view
[01:49] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, try asking in #xubuntu
[01:50] <silencedbear> It's not a program. It's a chat program on a site called hotornot.com.
[01:50] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: i have an issue. i can't seem to get BOTH restricted driver AND extended desktop working at the same time.
[01:50] <lmiller_> I have a laptop HDD I've temporarily placed in my desktop box
[01:50] <lmiller_> I've used debootstrap to install a basic version of hardy on it
[01:50] <lmiller_> Now I want to put a bootloader in the MBR of the laptop HDD, take it out of the Desktop machine and put it back in the laptop
[01:50] <rj175> is tht the perl awstats.pl -update -config=mysite
[01:50] <lmiller_> I think grub will be confused by that
[01:50] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, extend desktop ? is that  like the desktop effects ?
[01:50] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: no.
[01:50] <silencedbear> it's probably my dsl modem blocking it anyways. I think it only enables port 80 :(
[01:51] <ikonia> rj175: no, thats updates
[01:51] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: it's having 2 monitors working as though they were one wide one
[01:51] <lmiller_> So, the desktop HDD is at /dev/sdb and the laptop is at /dev/sda
[01:51] <rj175> how do i generate the reports?
[01:51] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, I don'T know about that ,   I think you need to research twinview in the forum
[01:52] <lmiller_> The device.map on the chroot laptop HDD has (hd0) /dev/sda
[01:52] <Zackymc_k> i have a problem with booting the live cd of ubuntu 7.10 all i get is this after the verbose boot http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/zackymcharvest/Help/photo#5191494634579094130
[01:52] <dassouki> where is openoffice installed?
[01:52] <lmiller_> But how do I get grub to install the MBR on the laptop HDD without hosing my Desktop MBR?
[01:52] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, have you used that site before ? cause it sounds like a trap ,  unless you manualy blocked ports in the firewall using iptables or firestarter the firewall in ubuntu it not enabled  by default
[01:53] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: wrong person?
[01:53] <Starnestommy> dassouki: the executable for it is /usr/bin/openoffice
[01:53] <dassouki> Starnestommy, how about the template files ?
[01:53] <Pelo> shingalated, have you used that site before ? cause it sounds like a trap ,  unless you manualy blocked ports in the firewall using iptables or firestarter the firewall in ubuntu it not enabled  by default
[01:53] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, thanks , and sorry
[01:53] <rj175> ikonia how do i generate the reports???
[01:53] <Pelo> Zackymc_k, try the alternate install cd insteadd
[01:54] <Starnestommy> dassouki: /usr/lib/openoffice/share/template/
[01:54] <bazhang> !xinerama | redwhitewaldo
[01:54] <ubotu> redwhitewaldo: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[01:54] <dassouki> Starnestommy, thanks :D
[01:54] <latitu> !ipcop
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipcop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <latitu> !info ipcop
[01:54] <ubotu> Package ipcop does not exist in gutsy
[01:54] <redwhitewaldo> bazhang: i'm on 8.04. is xinerema still the way to go?
[01:54] <latitu> why ipcop dont exists in ubuntu?
[01:54] <blind> How can I upgrade from Edgy to Feisty then to Gusty?
[01:55] <blind> gutsy, rather
[01:55] <mutk> Heh 'Gusty'
[01:55] <Zackymc_k> Pelo, ok but what i have a problem with is if this happens on the live cd will this happen when i dual boot vista and ubuntu
[01:55] <bazhang> ah redwhitewaldo best to ask in Hardy channel for that--no idea
[01:55] <genii> blind: Pretty much in the order you just described
[01:55] <latitu> why ipcop dont exists in ubuntu? how can i install ipcop?
[01:55] <blind> genii: i don't remember how to upgrade though. where is the button lol
[01:55] <Dr_willis> !info ipcom
[01:55] <ubotu> Package ipcom does not exist in gutsy
[01:56] <Dr_willis> latitu,  use the source?
[01:56] <blind> or how do i do it via cli
[01:56] <latitu> Dr_willis ./configure thing?
[01:56] <Pelo> Zackymc_k, the alternate install cd should detect yor video card properly and install a vesa driver if no free driver is avaialbe,  there should be no issue
[01:56] <latitu> Dr_willis is ipcop gui?
[01:56] <Dr_willis> latitu,  err... yes that is normally one step in compiling from source.
[01:56] <Dr_willis> latitu,  no idea.. ive neverheard of it befor.. you are the one asking about it.. you dont know?
[01:57] <genii> blind: Check here for specific instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:57] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=638336 latitu for gutsy
[01:57] <Dr_willis> latitu,  a fast google inplies that ipcop is a linux disrto. not a program ? perhaos thats just a distro i am reading that comes with it by default
[01:58] <rj175> ikonia how do i generate the reports???
[01:58] <Zackymc_k> Pelo, ok thanks do you happen to know if there is any problem with installing ubuntu on a HP tx1000 with a touch screen, im abit hesitant on installing it on my brand new laptop
[01:58] <ikonia> rj175: you set it up dynamic or via cron
[01:58] <latitu> bazhang Dr_willis thx
[01:59] <Pelo> Zackymc_k, not off the top of my head,  you can try looking up the model in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport or doing some research in the forum www.ubuntuforus.org
[01:59] <Stroganoff> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_8_04_alpha_4_e_HP_TX1000_series Zackymc_k
[01:59] <Pelo> !helpersnack | Stroganoff
[01:59] <ubotu> Stroganoff: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[01:59] <latitu> bazhang Dr_willis  so i cant install it on my linux?
[01:59] <bazhang> http://www.codepencil.com/index.php/installing-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-on-my-hp-tx1003au-laptop/ Zackymc_k
[01:59] <blind> when trying to upgrade to feisty, i get "Could not calculate the upgrade: An unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade." :|
[02:00] <Zackymc_k> thanks for all the help
[02:00] <bazhang> latitu: why bother?
[02:00] <Pelo> bazhang,  you are not getting a cookie,  you need to loose some weight
[02:00] <rj175> could you explain how to do this?
[02:01] <matthew> what's the name of the apache server's user and group?
[02:01] <Starnestommy> matthew: www-data
[02:02] <redwhitewaldo> sound is no longer working on my comp.
[02:02] <redwhitewaldo> can someone help me troubleshoot?
[02:02] <redwhitewaldo> I don't know what happneed
[02:02] <redwhitewaldo> sound just stopped working
[02:03] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, was it working before you installed the nvidia driver ?
[02:03] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: yes
[02:03] <redwhitewaldo> but i'm not sure if they're related, Pelo
[02:03] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, did it work after you installed the nvidia driver ?
[02:03] <redwhitewaldo> no
[02:03] <bazhang> redwhitewaldo: this is pulseaudio so gutsy fixes might not work for you
[02:03] <Pelo> !sound | redwhitewaldo
[02:03] <ubotu> redwhitewaldo: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:03] <redwhitewaldo> Pelo: it's not an nvidia driver
[02:03] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, regardless
[02:04] <redwhitewaldo> bazhang: what is pulseaudio? you said "this is pulseaudio". what is "this"?
[02:04] <bazhang> hardy uses pulseaudio redwhitewaldo
[02:05] <redwhitewaldo> bazhang: you're saying that what pelo is saying may not apply to me, correct?
[02:05] <Dr_willis> latitu,  you aparently barely know what it is.. :) you might want to read up on it a bit more.
[02:05] <Pelo> redwhitewaldo, that is what bazhang  is saying
[02:05] <sjovan> okay, i got a big problem. i need to cut a avi in to splitt sceens. in windows i used nandub (looks like avidemux, but a bit simpler). i have tryed avidemux, but for some strange reason it messes up the sound (both video and sound is set to direct copy). so do any one have a prog to recomend?
[02:05] <Dr_willis> latitu,  I barely know what it is.. but i did find a neat page on google about it  ipcop.org
[02:05]  * Pelo also suspects bazhang  of saying that his knowledge is dated
[02:05] <iskaldur> hi, im looking to buy an external hd for my macbook and my kubuntu desktop. will a western digital work fine with kubuntu? (in particular, im looking at the one here: http://www.buy.com/prod/western-digital-250gb-my-passport-essential-usb-2-0-portable-hard-drive/q/loc/101/206780497.html)
[02:06] <bazhang> Pelo: never! ;]
[02:06] <l23twire> I'm looking for a buddy anyone?
[02:06] <Pelo> sjovan, I did that as well a while back,  I recoded that avi file to mpeg4 first  and then cut that , it worked well
[02:06] <bazhang> iskaldur: best to look at reviews (hardware reviews) for that
[02:06] <AutoMatriX> which is the best method to synchronise an outlook express and an evolution address base ?
[02:06] <Dr_willis> iskaldur,  about any of them should work.. I would avoide paying extra $$ for ones with extra features that will not work.  such as enctyption/security/fancy backup buttons
[02:07] <Pelo> l23twire, waht do you mean a buddy ?
[02:07] <sjovan> Pelo: sounds like a solution, but not something i can satisfy with. you se i have a LOT of files to edit, and would just take to long
[02:07] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, there is an import option in the evolution file nemen
[02:08] <rj175> ikonia/
[02:08] <Medved> linuxoutlaws
[02:08] <iskaldur> thanks!
[02:08] <Pelo> sjovan, the only other thing I know is  command line mencoder
[02:08] <AutoMatriX> Pelo, I know the import option, but I want to sycnhronise ;)
[02:08] <rj175> ikonia is this the command u mean
[02:08] <rj175> perl awstats.pl -config=mysite -output -staticlinks > awstats.mysite.html
[02:09] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, there is a #evolution
[02:09] <AutoMatriX> Pelo, tx for that, did'nt know
[02:09] <sjovan> Pelo: yeah, and i can't finde a working gui for that. found this url, but most of the projects are dead :/ http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/projects.html
[02:09] <Pelo> np
[02:10] <Toaster`> does anyone know how to disable subtitles in DVD from the cli in vlc?
[02:10]  * Pelo wonders if sjovan is trying to split that Kamelott torrent into episode chunks
[02:10] <sjovan> Pelo: but how can you use mencoder to cut for exact points in a movie? you know... keyframes
[02:10] <doctor_thunder> what is the shortcut key that allows me to copy?
[02:10] <sjovan> Pelo: nope, i'm makeing pr0n compos :)
[02:10] <Pelo> sjovan, you'dd need to play the file in avidemux to note the splitpoints
[02:10] <Zelta> is there an app to use the zune in ubuntu
[02:10] <sjovan> for torrent sites...
[02:10] <Zelta> ?
[02:11] <yuri_> my automounter died. I think it may have been fuseiso or something related to acetoneiso. manually editing fstab works.
[02:11] <AutoMatriX> Pelo, are you sure about the name of the chanel ?
[02:11] <sjovan> Pelo: yeah, i could do that. can you help me out with the command then?`or maby give me a url to a good howto?
[02:11] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, I was, until now
[02:11] <guglielmo> ciao
[02:11] <linkmaster03> yeah pelo nobody is in #evolution lol
[02:12] <sjovan> Pelo: what's kamelott btw?
[02:12] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, I could swear there was one a few months ago
[02:12] <KOJV2> What is a Friend Attack and (if it's just offline messaging) why is it named that?
[02:12] <AutoMatriX> Pelo, seems vaporised
[02:12] <KOJV2> How come Xubuntu has more updates to fetch than Microsoft Windows??
[02:12] <Pelo> sjovan, french tv/comedy about arthur and the round table,  3 - 7 min episodes  100-50 epsiodes per seasons,  5 seeasons out so far,  it is absolutely awesome
[02:13] <Pelo> KOJV2,  *buntu not only update the os, but also the applications
[02:13] <sjovan> Pelo: sounds cool :D yeah, that could use some editing :)
[02:14] <yuri_> KOJV2: that depends on how you define "many." purely theoretically, more people see the source code for xubuntu, so more people can point out flaws
[02:14] <KOJV2> Pelo: ah. So, how many of the 122 updates were for the system?
[02:14] <Pelo> sjovan, I actualy spent 3 days cutting it back into 3 min epsiodes,
[02:14] <bazhang> Zelta: using vbox and xp you can: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4679554&postcount=33
[02:14] <rj175> anyone know how to generate the awstats reports?
[02:14] <KOJV2> So what's a good video editor for Ubuntu? Such as VirtualDub?
[02:15] <Pelo> KOJV2, no way for me to tell, , but they are all for things that you have installed
[02:15] <KOJV2> Hmm, VD is available for Ubuntu, no?
[02:15] <Pelo> KOJV2, avidemux
[02:15] <Zelta> bazhang: ah, need windows xp D:
[02:15] <KOJV2> Pelo: actually I haven't installed anything, just installed off a live cd.
[02:15] <Pelo> KOJV2, ifi it is installed, get the updates,  they are fixes and security
[02:16] <KOJV2> Pelo: I see.
[02:16] <Geoffrey2> KOJV2: Xubuntu automatically installs a number of common applications for you
[02:16] <KOJV2> Geoffrey2: yes I know. :)
[02:16] <unop> KOJV2, it's really pointless comparing microsoft windows to anything linux.  microsoft windows does not evolve as much or as fast as most linux distros, every minute of everyday, thousands of people are updating distros to add functionality, improve security, operability, etc - the same cannot be said for windows
[02:17] <KOJV2> Is there any way to make Thunderbird or another Ubuntu mail application use my Vista Mail boxes without disrupting their structure? So that I can check my mail on both platforms without exporting/importing as I switch between OSs.
[02:17] <VoidedCheck> unop, sounds like a comparison  :P
[02:17] <sjovan> Pelo: found this guide, but will it hit the keyframes? http://www.misterhowto.com/index.php?category=Computers&subcategory=Video&article=trim_or_split_with_mencoder <--- seconds doesn't look acurate enough. can't you specify with frame?
[02:17] <KOJV2> unop: oh.  :S
[02:18] <Pelo> sjovan, that's a bit over my head honestly
[02:18] <bazhang> KOJV2: you have an actual question or just wanting to chat
[02:18] <MrSteve> so.. uhm, how do i get window switching in 3d ?
[02:18] <sjovan> Pelo: k, but thanx for trying. guess i have a lot of reading to do
[02:18] <sjovan> :)
[02:18] <Pelo> sjovan, best of luck ,
[02:18] <Pelo> I'm off , later folks
[02:19] <MrSteve> thanks Pelo
[02:19] <KOJV2> YEs bazhang, I posted it just a few moments ago; Is there any way to make Thunderbird or another Ubuntu mail application use my Vista Mail boxes without disrupting their structure? So that I can check my mail on both platforms without exporting/importing as I switch between OSs.
[02:19] <Bassetts_> hi, I am trying to resize my / partition but obviously it is locked in gparted, will I need the livecd or is it possible to just unmount / for gparted?
[02:19] <MrSteve> bazhang:  -- I DID it!  Got Unetbootin and Ubuntu
[02:19] <yuri_> Q: in my session manager, how do i make an app load in the background? for example my rss reader pops up when i start ubuntu, but i want it to start minimized in the tray. is there a "-silent" command, or something similar?
[02:20] <unop> KOJV2, i was making a point about the speed at which updates are deployed with regards to linux, it's continually evolving unlike some counterparts
[02:20] <bazhang> KOJV2: use Vista mailboxes? from within a running Vista? while running ubuntu? sounds funny but seriously doubt it
[02:20] <bazhang> MrSteve: nice work
[02:20] <MrSteve> scary stuff
[02:21] <MrSteve> But, well worth the ability to get it
[02:21] <KOJV2> unop: I wouldn't say MS softs aren't evolving... I get like ten updates every month just for Windows and Office. Anyhow, let's leave it at that and focus on my possibilities of doing most of my daily work in Xubuntu. :)
[02:21] <KOJV2> bazhang: no, I mean I want to access my Vista Mail .dbx files natively from Ubuntu.
[02:21] <MrSteve> my windows wobble, and fade
[02:21] <MrSteve> lol
[02:21] <unop> KOJV2, you did ask why there were so many updates -- and i was pointing out why there were so many updates :) no flame-war intended, eh
[02:22] <MrSteve> can you shake your windows around?
[02:22] <KOJV2> unop: surely not. I'm just keen on discussing in general. :)
[02:22] <bazhang> KOJV2: likely not possible; funny question though
[02:22] <MrGnu> Hi Guys, Im running into an issue with Kde.  I am running into an error with insur1 temporary directories are full, check installation.  I googled this, but I could not find a solution, any ideas?  I installed KDE  via Terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[02:22] <unop> KOJV2, as am i (if you are implying i was doing any different)
[02:23] <KOJV2> bazhang: perhaps I could migrate to Thunderbird @ Windows and use the same boxes both on Windows and Ubuntu??
[02:23] <bazhang> best to chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic KOJV
[02:24] <KOJV> bazhang: ehm... that wasn't chit-chat, it was an actual question.
[02:25] <MrSteve> Personally, I want to thank ALL the Helpers and Ops in this Room..and Certainly think that you should get more than thanks..(but I am poor) So, Thank You, and Kudos for what you do!
[02:25] <KOJV> If I right click in Pigdin and want to abort the right-click-menu, I have to left-click twice... is there any way to fix that?
[02:25] <Stroganoff> KOJV should be working. just symlink your Thunderbird/Profiles folder to your ntfs mount
[02:26] <KOJV> Stroganoff: what does symlink mean?
[02:26] <Stroganoff> !symlink | KOJV
[02:26] <ubotu> KOJV: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:26] <dfmr> What can be the reason why the same cd with ubuntu 7.10 server boots on one computer and doesn't boot on another one?
[02:27] <Stroganoff> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symlink
[02:27] <Stroganoff> dfmr acpi=off noapic nodma etc?
[02:28] <Masochist> dfmr, one is not set to boot from CD in the bios settings?
[02:29] <MrGnu> Any suggestions?  regarding my Kde failed start up situation?
[02:29] <dfmr> but the menu with items like "start ubuntu" "command line" etc doesn't pop up. And other cd boot without any problems
[02:29] <cirkit|lappy> For some reason im unable to play dvd movies even though libdvdcss, gstreamer, xine, mplayer, vlc are installed.
[02:29] <MrGnu> I am reluctant to do a a apt remove on it,
[02:29] <KOJV> Okay, thanks stroganoff!
[02:29] <Masochist> dfmr, does any part of the CD show up?
[02:29] <dfmr> no
[02:30] <Masochist> check your bios settings.
[02:30] <Masochist> make sure boot from CD is the first option,
[02:30] <dfmr> but for exmaple windows cd starts without any problems
[02:31] <dfmr> so I assume that bios settings are ok
[02:31] <Masochist> oh.
[02:31] <Masochist> haven'ta  clue then.
[02:31] <bazhang> dfmr: sounds like a bad burn, iso burned as data, didnt check md5 sum or burned on poor quality media
[02:31] <KOJV> So, where do I get Wine?
[02:32] <dfmr> but it starts on another computer?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> !wine | KOJV
[02:32] <ubotu> KOJV: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:32] <bazhang> dfmr: then you may want to try the alternate cd
[02:32] <KOJV> Thanks Dr_willis!
[02:32] <dfmr> alternate cd of ubuntu 7.10 server?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> the server only has an anternative cd.
[02:33] <dfmr> wow didnt know that
[02:33] <dfmr> thanks guys
[02:33] <bazhang> ah right server my bad
[02:33] <sarthor> Hi, i am using ubutnu gutsy, i want to confiugre pppoe server on gutsy, how can i, i am not an expert.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> desktop = live cd with gui. Server cd/alternative installer = text based installer
[02:35] <sarthor> Hi, i am using ubutnu gutsy, i want to confiugre pppoe server on gutsy, how can i, i am not an expert. need some howto.
[02:35] <DNC_Forever> -
[02:35] <DNC_Forever> This server was created Thu Mar  6 20:45:20 UTC 2008
[02:35] <DNC_Forever> -
[02:36] <RoxanneM> hey guys , im having a hard time restoring grub after a new XP install, would someone be able to hel p me for a second>?
[02:36] <bazhang> !grub | RoxanneM
[02:36] <ubotu> RoxanneM: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:37] <bosanac> I am running linux ubuntu 7.10 and i need some program like " Virtual DJ On Windows OS " but i need it for LINUX can some1 help me please?
[02:37] <KOJV> Anyone got an apt-link to an Xubuntu respitory where I can download Wine? Thanks!
[02:38] <Daisuke_Ido> could you be more specific?
[02:38] <Daisuke_Ido> what does it do?
[02:38] <marckie> run Virtualbox bosanac
[02:38] <Lynet> sarthor: http://www.freeantennas.com/PPPoE-Server-HOWTO.html looks promising
[02:38] <bosanac> marckie: i dont understand
[02:38] <Daisuke_Ido> KOJV, http://winehq.org - use their repo
[02:38] <marckie> !Virtualbox
[02:38] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[02:38] <yuri_> bosanac: check out rosegarden
[02:38] <linkmaster03> when is the party bosanac lol
[02:38] <MrGnu> Hi Guys, Im running into an issue with Kde.  I am running into an error with insur1 temporary directories are full, check installation.  I googled this, but I could not find a solution, any ideas?  I installed KDE  via Terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[02:38] <marckie> bosanac: !Virtualbox
[02:38] <linkmaster03> you asked the same thing hours ago
[02:38] <bosanac> ok :D
[02:38] <bosanac> thx
[02:38] <MrGnu> any ideas?
[02:38] <RoxanneM> bazhang: im using that tut. but it doesnt seem to work.... i typed in this line "setup (hd0)" andit gives me the error--Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[02:39] <dfmr> Dr_willis, ubuntu.com says "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer." Are you sure that server version has an alternate cd as well?
[02:39] <yuri_> bosanac: that's midi mixing software, fairly advanced
[02:39] <marckie> for my windoze needs I just use Virtualbox
[02:39] <bosanac> yuri_: how to install it can you tell me PLEASE ?
[02:39] <marckie> Though I rarely boot up windoze in it
[02:39] <arvind_khadri> bosanac, you want to do some DJing right??
[02:39] <kkserasera> \join #books
[02:39] <marckie> !Parallels
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallels - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <KOJV> Thanks Daisuke_Ido!
[02:40] <yuri_> bosanac: in a terminal, type in sudo apt-get install rosegarden
[02:40] <marckie> !Parallel
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <marckie> !CANoe
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about canoe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <arvind_khadri> bosanac, djplay is the software is the thing you should be lookng for
[02:41] <yuri_> Q: will pulseaudio kill alsa, or does it work in tandem with it?
[02:41] <DNC_Forever> !IRC
[02:41] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[02:42] <dfmr> Is there any alternate version of Ubuntu 7.10 Server?
[02:42] <marckie> is there a java developer here?
[02:42] <zero-cool> i am java developer
[02:42] <arvind_khadri> dfmr, what does that mean...you only get a alternative cd to install
[02:42] <marckie> there's nobody online in #ubuntu-java
[02:42] <MrSteve> how to change the hostname of the Install via bash?
[02:42] <DNC_Forever> !HTML
[02:42] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[02:43] <zero-cool> i am java developer
[02:43] <Kleidersack> MrSteve: hostname
[02:43] <marckie> hi zero-cool
[02:43] <zero-cool> hy
[02:43] <MrSteve> really?  er, wow
[02:43] <zero-cool> yes i like java
[02:43] <marckie> im studying java right now and need all the resources i can get
[02:43] <dfmr> I don't get it. So whats the difference between these two?
[02:43] <DNC_Forever> !IT
[02:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:43] <Starnestommy> MrSteve: you may also need to edit /etc/hosts
[02:43] <zero-cool> you searching ide?
[02:44] <zero-cool> i develop in netbeans
[02:44] <dfmr> arvind_khadri, but is it available for server or desktop only?
[02:45] <Kleidersack> How can I manage to boot with Grub installed on sda5 (logical volume)?
[02:45] <marckie> i already have netbeans
[02:45] <arvind_khadri> dfmr, for both
[02:45] <marckie> just wondering if there are java dev in ubuntu
[02:45] <zero-cool> netbeans is very fast
[02:45] <marckie> and if it is active
[02:45] <marckie> yeah its fast
[02:45] <zero-cool> self compiler is very fast
[02:45] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, grub should show up when you boot
[02:45] <Kleidersack> marckie: you eclipse could install eclipse
[02:45] <Dr_willis> dfmr,  i said the server cd - uses the text installer. since it has no X on it.. it dosent need a 'anternative isntaller cd' since it allready IS using the alternative/text installer.
[02:45] <RoxanneM> bazhang:  can you have a look at that grub tutorial there, is the line "grub> setup (hd0) #Hit <Enter> key "- correct? or should it be (setup (hd0,1)
[02:45] <marckie> though in our class we prefer textbased ide --i use gedit
[02:45] <marckie> then compile it in terminal
[02:45] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: unforunataly not...
[02:46] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, are you sure the grub installed??
[02:46] <zero-cool> I am from croatia you
[02:46] <zero-cool> ?
[02:46] <marckie> i haven't tried eclipse Kleidersack in ubuntu
[02:46] <marckie> i heard its slow
[02:46] <dfmr> Dr_willis, ok now i get it Thanks
[02:46] <IdleOne> where does rhythmbox keep playlists?
[02:46] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: I just recieve a message, that no partition is marked as active. I installed grub to (hd0,5)...
[02:46] <marckie> im from the philippines zero-cool
[02:47] <zero-cool> yes but eclipse is oriented on web app
[02:47] <marckie> i see
[02:47] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, i never had luck with those methods,feel they(grub) have changed something
[02:47] <marckie> but we havent gone there yet
[02:47] <Kleidersack> zero-cool: Sorry? Why ?
[02:47] <marckie> we're still in the basics
[02:47] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, of issue fdisk -l
[02:47] <arvind_khadri> !paste | Kleidersack
[02:47] <ubotu> Kleidersack: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:47] <marckie> I'm studying so that I can contribute in the community
[02:48] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, they paste the output over the site
[02:48] <arvind_khadri> !ot | marckie,
[02:48] <ubotu> marckie,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:48] <bliffle> only a couple days to 8.04 release - where's best ISO torrent?
[02:49] <zero-cool> i am from croatia you guys
[02:49] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: sorry, windows running... But I can tell you my layout: 1st prim: EISA (Media Player of Samsung), 2nd prim. WIndow XP, 3rd 8 MB reserved for Vista, 4th extended 4th 20GB ext3 with Ubuntu 6th 20GB NTFS for Data
[02:49] <Zelta> !hardy | bliffle
[02:49] <ubotu> bliffle: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:49] <danage> how do i list all active kernel drivers?
[02:49] <zero-cool> lsmod
[02:49] <RoxanneM> could someone give me a hand trying to get grub reinstalled?
[02:49] <thoreauputic_> bliffle: uh, the torrent file will be there in the releases on the day
[02:50] <Kleidersack> RoxanneM: grub-install?
[02:50] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, we need to check the bootable flags ...so you need to be in ubuntu...do you have some live cd??
[02:50] <api984> whats with grub??
[02:50] <Flannel> !grub | RoxanneM
[02:50] <ubotu> RoxanneM: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:50] <arvind_khadri> RoxanneM, hi
[02:50] <Flannel> arvind_khadri, Kleidersack, bootable flags don't mean anything to Linux, or even XP.
[02:50] <zero-cool> just put ubuntu cd and mount hardrive
[02:50] <RoxanneM> Kleidersack:  i just reinstalled windows, and im looking at that tutorial that Flannel just posted up... but it doesnt seem to work
[02:50] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: at the moment 2nd part is active. when i set sda5 active, the mbr-code tells, no partition is active.
[02:50] <api984> its on MBR
[02:50] <Mega_byte> hi, does anyone know, please, what is the equivalent of PREROUTING, in ipfw (ipfirewall)
[02:51] <Flannel> RoxanneM: What are you having problems with? since it's worked for many others.
[02:51] <arvind_khadri> Flannel, doesnt that mean that there is a OS in that partition
[02:51] <bliffle> thanx guys.
[02:51] <a1fa> hello.. can you not enable DMA on SATA drive?
[02:51] <RoxanneM> the line "setup (hd0)
[02:51] <zero-cool> have somebody from Croatia
[02:51] <KOJV> How can I make Pidign login to more IRC channels at start?
[02:51] <zero-cool> ?
[02:51] <api984> yup
[02:51] <api984> i am from croatia
[02:51] <a1fa> api984: seljak
[02:51] <a1fa> :p
[02:51] <zero-cool> hello api
[02:51] <api984> bok
[02:51] <api984> sta ima
[02:51] <zero-cool> i am from zagreb you
[02:51] <a1fa> bok seljaci :p
[02:51] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: linux doesn't care about boot flags :)
[02:52] <Flannel> arvind_khadri: No, the bootable flag is ignored except by a handful of old OSes (DOS, for instance)
[02:52] <api984> PULA
[02:52] <a1fa> SPLIT
[02:52] <marckie> sorry
[02:52] <zero-cool> evo dosao malo na ubuntu kanal posto spavaju ovi moji hahari
[02:52] <api984> a1fa sta ima
[02:52] <marckie> just felt the love
[02:52] <arvind_khadri> Flannel, oh ok
[02:52] <Flannel> RoxanneM: what about it isn't working?  What errors does it give you?
[02:52] <zero-cool> decki vi ste linuxasi
[02:52] <zero-cool> ?
[02:52] <api984> a sta ces
[02:52] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: possibly older versions of windows need it, don't know
[02:52] <a1fa> drkam kitu.. cant ebale DMA on my 500GB SATA drive
[02:52] <zero-cool> jel idete na razmjenu vjestina
[02:52] <KOJV> How come there are none of the normal (Windows?) resolutions available in Xubuntu? All like random frequencies... such as 1600x1200 @ 68 Hz.
[02:52] <RoxanneM> grub> setup (hd0)
[02:52] <RoxanneM> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[02:52] <zero-cool> u st
[02:52] <api984> ja sam duze vrijeme ali ga koristim virtualno
[02:52] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, the grub doesnt show up???
[02:52] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: Grub not, but MBR code does.
[02:52] <Flannel> !hr | api984
[02:52] <ubotu> api984: Odgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala.  Croatian language support in #ubuntu-hr
[02:52] <zero-cool> imate razmjenu vjestina u st
[02:52] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: ...
[02:53] <api984> ajmo na ubuntu hr
[02:53] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: no! only when i install it to the mbr.
[02:53] <zero-cool> ajmo
[02:53] <zero-cool> koji je kanal
[02:53] <zero-cool> samo ubuntuhr
[02:53] <zero-cool> ?
[02:53] <api984> #ubuntu-hr
[02:53] <FloodBot1> zero-cool: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <Flannel> zero-cool: /join #ubuntu-hr
[02:53] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, well thats what you need to do
[02:53] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: for the primary partitions....
[02:53]  * KOJV wonders how on Earth he came to #ubuntu-jibberish...
[02:53] <NateF> hay guys im back, i finally got passed the ata error's, but now i see the blank blue screen with white lines at the buttom, and now its kinda frozen, is it installing now?
[02:53] <a1fa> Why cant you enable DMA on SATA drive?
[02:54] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: if you install grub on a partition, you have to have a bootloader on the mbr to chinload, at least - is that what you mean?
[02:54] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: ... i suppose, bu i'm not sure
[02:54] <RoxanneM> i really want my ubuntu back :(
[02:54] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, the grub should be chainloading MBR
[02:54] <RoxanneM> maybe i will just wait for Hardy
[02:54] <thoreauputic_> s/chinload/chainload  :)
[02:54] <thoreauputic_> heh
[02:54] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: Sorry, what do you mean?
[02:55] <Scunizi> alfa, isn't it on be default ?  newer technology and all that.. there's probably no way to turn it off.
[02:55] <ben__> hi,
[02:55] <a1fa> no
[02:55] <a1fa> its not on
[02:55] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: theoraticaly the mbr-code searches for the active partition and chainloads...
[02:55] <a1fa> and I cant turn it on
[02:55] <NateF> guys im stuck on a blue screen while trying to install ubuntu
[02:55] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: or haven't i got it false?
[02:55] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, well you need to write the grub above the MBR so that grub can detect everything and actually run....well grub should be on the top of geometry not inside a geometry
[02:56] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: umm, no - you don't needto mark "active"
[02:56] <maco> "active" partitions only matter in windows
[02:56] <KOJV> I'd like to know why two of my six Win partitions ask for my password then won't be mounted anyway?
[02:56] <maco> in linux, the bootloader will use whatever partitions it's told to use
[02:56] <Kleidersack> maco: no, defenitly not
[02:56] <NateF> im stuck on a blue screen is ubuntu is loading???
[02:56] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: but then i loose the "active" feature
[02:57] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, active feature of what,you mean a dual boot
[02:57] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: and how does the mbr knows, which bootsector to load?
[02:57] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack:  for example, you can only have one partition marked with the boot flag, but grub can load 2,3 or more OSs on various partitions
[02:57] <gogeta> NateF LOL did you say blue screen
[02:57] <KOJV> How come there are none of the normal (Windows?) resolutions available in Xubuntu? All like random frequencies... such as 1600x1200 @ 68 Hz.
[02:57] <NateF> yes
[02:57] <gogeta> :P
[02:57] <KOJV>  I'd like to know why two of my six Win partitions ask for my password then won't be mounted anyway?
[02:57] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: grub  works in stages - the mbr is just there to connect to the later stages
[02:57] <Flannel> !repeat | KOJV
[02:57] <ubotu> KOJV: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:58] <gogeta> KOJV six??
[02:58] <IdleOne> where does rhythmbox keep playlists?
[02:58] <linkmaster03> !patience
[02:58] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:58] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: grub properly configured can find bootable kernels
[02:58] <NateF> yea, whats a HUGE blue screen mean after selecting the keyboard layout?
[02:58] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: the bios sets the first partition active, when i press the "media button" to power up my laptop... on dell the tools partition is activated by the bios in this way.
[02:59] <IdleOne> NateF: anything on the blue screen?
[02:59] <NateF> no
[02:59] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: it doesn't get to any state - the message i recieve is, that no partition is activated... or no operation system is installed.
[02:59] <NateF> theres a small white line at the bottom
[02:59] <NateF> if i hit enter it ads another white line to the bottom
[02:59] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, have you got ubuntu installed
[03:00] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: "no operation system is installed" sounds like a windows message
[03:00] <IdleOne> NateF: hmm sounds interesting. dont know what it is or what would cause it
[03:00] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: yes, but I always tell the bootloader to install to the os partition.
[03:00] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, as ubuntu auto configures the grub
[03:00] <NateF> lol, do you know if i can send Ubuntu an email or something to tell them about the proablem?
[03:00] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, there you did a mistake,grub is totally different from MBR!!!!!
[03:00] <gogeta> NateF im wondering abought your cds
[03:01] <IdleOne> NateF: this would be the best place to get the problem solved. you can also try searching on the ubuntu forums
[03:01] <NateF> lol, i checked tthe CD's twice
[03:01] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: if you do that with windows ntldr you have to jump through hoops - using grub on the mbr is much better and easier
[03:01] <gogeta> NateFif there not just no good
[03:01] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, how can grub now boot or show up as it wont be called first!!!
[03:01] <Flannel> !bugs | NateF
[03:01] <ubotu> NateF: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[03:01] <NateF> there CD-R's
[03:01] <NateF> ok thanks
[03:01] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: yes, but grub in the mbr doesn't make real sense...
[03:01] <a1fa> damn
[03:01] <IdleOne> NateF: try burning on a brand new cd and see if that helps
[03:01] <gogeta> NateF woa
[03:01] <NateF> a new CD-R or CD+R
[03:02] <IdleOne> NateF: I know that when I have used a cd more then once I always get errors
[03:02] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: sorry?
[03:02] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, oh really those were the official ways though
[03:02] <gogeta> NateF from a new iso
[03:02] <NateF> ok
[03:02] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: yes it does - I explained earlier that only a tiny part of grub goes in the mbr - the rest is later stages
[03:02] <gogeta> NateF compared the md5 to
[03:02] <NateF> well, i have school tomorow, so im going to start the download tehen go to bed
[03:02] <gogeta> NateF make shure its not cruppted
[03:02] <marckie> can anybody change grub visual?
[03:02] <NateF> how do i do the MD5
[03:02] <arvind_khadri> thoreauputic_, how can grub be seen from inside of a geometry ,MBR wont detect anything other that Windows
[03:02] <IdleOne> !md5 | NateF
[03:02] <ubotu> NateF: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:03] <MrGnu> Hi Guys, Im running into an issue with Kde.  I am running into an error with insur1 temporary directories are full, check installation.  I googled this, but I could not find a solution, any ideas?  I installed KDE  via Terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[03:03] <NateF> THANKS ubot!
[03:03] <NateF> is that a bot or a real person?
[03:03] <Starnestommy> NateF: a bot
[03:03] <gogeta> IdleOne he has both a lice cd and server failing
[03:03] <gogeta> IdleOne live
[03:03] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: yes, by default it'splaced there and kicked by windows... but if you place grub to the bootsector of you linux part you can reenable it by setting the linux part active using windows program "diskpart"  without any further tools
[03:03] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: the code in the mbr loads stage 1.5 of grub, or whatever the right number is (I would have to look it up)
[03:03] <MrGnu> WEll I wish I was, anyone know the answer?>
[03:03] <IdleOne> NateF: how new is this pc?
[03:04] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: Ah well that may be so - I don't know that method
[03:04] <NateF> umm 2001
[03:04] <IdleOne> NateF: ok not hardware issue then
[03:05] <gogeta> IdleOne is if his hd is craping out
[03:05] <NateF> well, ill re download and burn tomorow i got school tomorow :(
[03:05] <adam__> hello, i am thinking of upgrading to the beta, and i have a toshiba with the weird graphics (intel) and i was wondering if i will have to do the bios hack to get the graphics to work correctly?
[03:05] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, grub boots first not the MBR
[03:05] <gogeta> IdleOne it was a vfs ata error
[03:05] <NateF> no
[03:05] <NateF> the ata errors are gone now
[03:05] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: sounds like an inflexible method - what if you have say, a triple boot?
[03:05] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: MBR code is executed first... if grub is in the mbr, then it's executed.
[03:05] <gogeta> NateF if thats true start the live cd :)
[03:05] <Scunizi> adam__: without knowing specifically what the card is.. there won't be anyone answering.
[03:06] <bmk789> is a load of 10 not good?
[03:06] <NateF> lol, i did, the live CD gets stuck
[03:06] <caveymaso1> is there any way of having diff wallpapers on each of my desktops?
[03:06] <adam__> Scunizi, its the intel 945
[03:06] <felipe__> !tell me about grub
[03:06] <gogeta> NateF then thers still a issue
[03:06] <IdleOne> NateF: at what point does it get stuck?
[03:06] <IdleOne> !grub | felipe_
[03:06] <ubotu> felipe_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:06] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, yeah thats what am saying ...but how the hell can MBR see the grub when it doesnt what a ext3 FS is
[03:06] <NateF> umm, when i go to install, the status bar freezes
[03:06] <Scunizi> adam__: I think that should be supported now and Hardy should be even better.
[03:06] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: only a tiny part of grub is installed to the mbr - the rest is where you put it :)
[03:06] <adam__> Scunizi, thank you, i will go ahead and do it tomorrow, as i will surf tonight...
[03:06] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: now, I have to use a bootloader, but bootloader in the mbr is a bit messy... especially for dell,ibm and verious laptops..
[03:07] <IdleOne> NateF: how long have you waited for it to unstick?
[03:07] <Scunizi> adam__: are you on the live cd now?
[03:07] <NateF> umm, about 25-26 hours
[03:07] <adam__> Scunizi, no, i am on ubuntu ultimate 1.6
[03:07] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: the part in the mbr knows just enough to find grub - the rest happens after that
[03:07] <gogeta> NateF lol yea stuck
[03:07] <Kleidersack> arvind_khadri: mbr doesn't care the fs - it just looks for an active partition and loads the first (boot) sector.
[03:07] <NateF> lol
[03:07] <Scunizi> adam__: ah.. ok.. so are you going to beta of ultimate?
[03:07] <IdleOne> NateF: yeah that should be long enough. lol. ok go to bed and work on it tomorrow. school is more important
[03:07] <thoreauputic_> arvind_khadri: grub is pretty smart actually :)
[03:07] <gogeta> NateF i would md5 those isos make shure something isnt wrong there
[03:07] <adam__> Scunizi, no, im going to the plain ubuntu beta, 8.04
[03:08] <NateF> ok
[03:08] <NateF> well ill redownload then check all the info
[03:08] <NateF> ill be back on tomorow
[03:08] <arvind_khadri> thoreauputic_, thats what am trying to prove
[03:08] <IdleOne> night
[03:08] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: grub doesn't look for "active" - it finds kernels
[03:08] <Scunizi> adam__: you might consider just installing gutsy and when hardy is released (and fully functional) just upgrade through synaptic.. it will prompt you for the upgrade.
[03:08] <gogeta> NateF sometimes they go bad realy the case with ones that have been there a wile
[03:09] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: in fact if you have it on a floppy you can run it that way and it will show a list
[03:09] <cirkit|lappy> I've installed libdvdcss and win32codecs, I am unable to play a copyrighted DVD movie. Medibuntu repository has been added with the necessary software installed. Has anyone seen this issue before?
[03:09] <adam__> Scunizi, nah, i want to get off of the unsupported ultimate
[03:09] <NateF> ok
[03:09] <gogeta> NateF or even your download manager can do it
[03:09] <adam__> Scunizi, and build it myself
[03:09] <Scunizi> adam__: gotcha
[03:09] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: yes, but my problem is to let the mbr load grub, because it seems not to work with logical drives, but works fine with primary partitions.
[03:09] <NateF> how do i make sure the download manager is fine?
[03:09] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: alternatively you point it at another bootloader to chainload
[03:09] <IdleOne> where does rhythmbox save playlists?
[03:09] <NateF> im using FireFoz
[03:09] <NateF> FireFox*
[03:09] <adam__> Scunizi, there are alot of things on this ultimate, that i dont need, use, or have a use for... so i want to dump it,streamline an install, and start fresh, windows free
[03:09] <gogeta> NateF yea i had ff cruppt one once
[03:10] <Scunizi> adam__: :)
[03:10] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I have no idea what you mean - grub finds logical drives just fine
[03:10] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: now, if nothing works i'll let the windows bootloader to chainload grub; a bit messy...
[03:10] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: but i need grub to be found.
[03:10] <_Net> Ubuntu comes with GCC compiler right?
[03:10] <adam__> Scunizi, thanks for your help i do appreciate it, and will see ya later,
[03:10] <Scunizi> adam__: c-ya
[03:10] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: i don't want put grub to the mbr.
[03:11] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: how on earth did you complicate matters so much? If you just follow the standard ways grub works fine
[03:11] <drewby> Hello, are there any tools available to ubuntu to determine whether or not a video is encoded in MPEG4 - Part 10 versus MPEG4 - Part 2 (in other words H.264 versus Divx)?
[03:11] <gogeta> Kleidersack supergrub live cd/floppy
[03:11] <arvind_khadri> _Net, yeah
[03:11] <gogeta> Kleidersack you can rebuild it with that easly
[03:11] <cirkit|lappy> Nevermind it works, had to re-insert the disc after installing the necessary files.
[03:11] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I cannot see what the problem is with having grub on mbr
[03:11] <arvind_khadri> thoreauputic_, :) thats whats so messy
[03:11] <Synclair> hello
[03:12] <gogeta> Kleidersack w same disk you c an even restore the mbr to stock windows
[03:12] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: unfortunately it's not so simple if you want to use dell and ibm computers with it's own tools-partitions
[03:12] <arvind_khadri> Kleidersack, i think #grub would be more interested in what you are doing
[03:12] <gogeta> Kleidersack well i told you how to fix it
[03:13] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: ah, so dell do something stupid with their partitions. I see :)
[03:13] <caveymaso1> is there any way of having different wallpapers on each of my desktops?
[03:13] <Kleidersack> gogeta: the problem is to load grub from an logical drive... i have rebuilded it several times.
[03:13] <drewby> How can I determine the codec of a given video file?
[03:13] <Synclair> hey I have a question that it's server related
[03:13] <gogeta> Kleidersack what you do is backup the dell mbr to a safe place
[03:13] <nanotrader> are there any communities of france here??
[03:13] <TangentBuntu> how do I change the home directory of a user via command line?
[03:13] <gogeta> Kleidersack thers stuff out there that can do that
[03:13] <caveymaso1> lol they need to do something about this chanel its getting to big
[03:14] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: not really - the bios can set the tools partition active if you ran in trouble... but unfortunatelly it only works with a standard mbr code, because grub ignores the active flag
[03:14] <Scunizi> Synclair: ask...away..
[03:14] <Starnestommy> TangentBuntu: sudo usermod -d /new/home/dir username
[03:14] <nanotrader> please, someone, i want to tlak to french people
[03:14] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: How do you suppose the millions of people running linux on Dell seem to manage to configure grub so easily?
[03:14] <TangentBuntu> omg usermod
[03:14] <Kleidersack> gogeta: sorry?
[03:14] <Synclair> okey, I have a server running ubuntu 7.10
[03:14] <Starnestommy> !fr | nanotrader
[03:14] <ubotu> nanotrader: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:14] <Scunizi> !fr | nanotrader
[03:14] <arvind_khadri> !fr | nanotrader
[03:14] <TangentBuntu> Starnestommy: thank you
[03:14] <gogeta> Kleidersack you can backup a mbr
[03:14] <caveymaso1> diff wallpapers anyone?
[03:14] <Scunizi> !fr | nanotrader
[03:14] <Starnestommy> TangentBuntu: you may need to move the stuff in that user's old home directory to the new one
[03:15] <Kleidersack> gogeta: but i need to run it each time before running in grub
[03:15] <gogeta> Kleidersack err no
[03:15] <Synclair> the thing is that I need my server to accept people logging in from a certain domain.. It's an ADS (Active Directory) and the thing is that I need to bind samba to the domain
[03:15] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: loosing the possibility to activate the tools partition by bios... the same for lenovo reparation button afaik
[03:15] <gogeta> Kleidersack grub will setup for other oses
[03:16] <Kleidersack> gogeta: but ignore the active flag
[03:16] <Synclair> for example, if a client wants to download or upload certain files to the server, he would have to input his user and password from the domain to the system (then the server would authenticate with the domain controller)
[03:16] <Scunizi> Synclair: so it's really an Active Directory thing.. someone here might know.. or over at #ubuntu-server .. the guys that deal with this all the time.
[03:16] <TangentBuntu> Starnestommy: it's just to give someone an FTP account to the webserver
[03:16] <gogeta> Kleidersack so
[03:16] <Synclair> cool
[03:16] <Synclair> thx
[03:16] <Scunizi> np
[03:16] <TangentBuntu> no files have been there in the first place, Starnestommy
[03:16] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: hmm - OK. I only run linux so I guess a lot of this is not relevant to me - have you tried googling for the problem ?
[03:16] <gogeta> Kleidersack well i have a suggestion for you
[03:16] <RequinB4> How can I make control+alt+delte open my system moniter
[03:17] <gogeta> Kleidersack a wubi install
[03:17] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: yes, but don't have enough keyword to get a smart result
[03:17] <Kleidersack> gogeta: sorry?
[03:17] <gogeta> Kleidersack it uses both the windows partation and boot loader
[03:17] <Scunizi> RequinB4: you ought to have it pull up a graphic that says  by by MS
[03:17] <caveymaso1> has anyone been successfull with multiple wallpapers? like diff wallpapers on each workspace?
[03:17] <Synclair> no response @ #ubuntu-server
[03:17] <Kleidersack> gogeta: you mean a bootloader?
[03:18] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: have you tried ubuntu+dell+tools+partition+grub  for example ?
[03:18] <gogeta> Kleidersack http://wubi-installer.org/ its built in 8.04 but for 7.10 go there
[03:18] <Scunizi> RequinB4: seriously.. why not just put the sys monitor on the upper bar of the screen?
[03:18] <RequinB4> Scunizi - Maybe i'll do that on another machine :P  But i'm fixing my freind's laptop and he wanted an easily accessable system moniter
[03:18] <zutme> i have an onboard soundcard and a discrete soundcard. how can i choose which one I want to use? It defaulted to my onboard for some reason
[03:18] <RequinB4> Scunizi - security, i think
[03:18] <gogeta> Kleidersack all you need to do is restore the windows boot sector
[03:18] <Kleidersack> gogeta: i have already installed ubuntu
[03:19] <Scunizi> RequinB4: don't know how that would make any difference..
[03:19] <gogeta> Kleidersack well you dont wanna mod it
[03:19] <gogeta> Kleidersack this would work for you
[03:19] <Kleidersack> gogeta: no, not really... my windows bootsector is fine... but i don't want grub in the mbr...
[03:19] <RequinB4> Scunizi - oh, you mean on the toolbar?  That would be last ditch
[03:19] <Scunizi> RequinB4: right click bar.. select "Add to Panel" and attach it.. then you're done..
[03:19] <Scunizi> yep
[03:19] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I just tried that and got some hits that look as if they could help
[03:19] <gogeta> Kleidersack readit does not use grub
[03:20] <RequinB4> Scunizi - THanks for the suggestion, but it would still be nice to get the keyboard shortcut
[03:20] <longmanzz> hi
[03:20] <longmanzz> yo
[03:20] <highway> zutme, can't you just disable the on-board sound card in the bios?
[03:21] <Kleidersack> gogeta: as far as i can see, wubi is just an installer... isn't it?
[03:21] <Scunizi> RequinB4: there ought to be a way to put it in System/Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts.. but there's lots of stuff there and no "Add" button
[03:21] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: another google search for you:  ntldr+boot+linux+howto
[03:21] <Scunizi> RequinB4: maybe in the conf file for that app.
[03:21] <gogeta> Kleidersack ir installes in a image file inside windows and uses the windows boot loader
[03:21] <zutme> highway, i suppose I could, but that's kind of a hack isn't it? I should be able to select it somehow wouldn't you think?
[03:21] <RequinB4> Scunizi - yeah, i asked here because the one thing i'm dissapointed about ubuntu was a lack of GUI keyboart shortcut changes
[03:21] <lolz> hey there. i'm running ubuntu from the boot disk and i am considering formating my current windows hd and using ubuntu full-time, cus it is much better. my question is, me and a friend are coding a website, ubuntu can edit .html / .php files correct?
[03:21] <gogeta> Kleidersack no partations or grub
[03:22] <danage> anybody have good instructions on how to compile hostap drivers and modprobe them into the kernel? i don't know how to compile JUST the drivers...
[03:22] <gogeta> Kleidersack your only other option are install it on the bootsector a floppy or a usb drive
[03:22] <highway> there might be another way, but if you don't need the on-board, why leave it on?
[03:22] <thoreauputic_> lolz: of course :) Any number of editors can handle those
[03:22] <fyrmedic> lolz yup no problem. I think the package is Quanta or bluefish. Or you can use a content management system and not worry about it.
[03:22] <lolz> is there a application, alike dreamweaver for ubunut?
[03:23] <Kleidersack> gogeta: oh, nice idea... but my problem is to get grub running, because i don't have windows on each computer to install... but there are plenty dell / lenovo / other manufactures using the active-feature...
[03:23] <gogeta> Kleidersack if you wanna avoide the primary mbr
[03:23] <lolz> Ubuntu*.
[03:23] <thoreauputic_> lolz: closest would be kompozer
[03:23] <lolz> okay.
[03:23] <thoreauputic_> !info kompozer hardy
[03:23] <Scunizi> RequinB4: check this out.. http://blog.laptopmag.com/keyboard-shortcuts-in-linux-success
[03:23] <ubotu> kompozer (source: kompozer): Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.7.10-0ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 8438 kB, installed size 26008 kB
[03:23] <lolz> if i do pation my current hd. how big would you say teh smallest i could get away with ubuntu?
[03:23] <Kleidersack> gogeta: active-flag works fine for primary partitions...
[03:23] <lolz> in gigabytes.
[03:23] <gogeta> Kleidersack just dont get it do you
[03:23] <danage> anybody have good instructions on how to compile hostap drivers and modprobe them into the kernel? i don't know how to compile JUST the drivers...
[03:23] <longmanzz> hi
[03:24] <Kleidersack> gogeta: sorry?
[03:24] <gogeta> Kleidersack linux does not need activ
[03:24] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: have you actually tried the searches I suggested?
[03:24] <Kleidersack> gogeta: the active flag tells the standard mbr code, which bootsector to load...
[03:24] <lolz> what's a good (preferably low) hd size for ubuntu?
[03:24] <gogeta> Kleidersack you should be able to bot any partation with grub even recovery
[03:24] <danage> lolz: 2gb
[03:24] <gogeta> boot
[03:25] <lolz> will 2gb do?
[03:25] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: you are approaching this from a totally non-linux angle
[03:25] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: searched for "mbr grub extended partition" before asking here...
[03:25] <lolz> alright thanks a lot guyz.
[03:25] <lolz> cya.
[03:25] <RequinB4> thanks much Scunizi
[03:25] <Scunizi> RequinB4: np.. :)
[03:25] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: an extended partition is just a container
[03:25] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: sorry, but i'm not going to write my own mbr bootloader...
[03:25] <gogeta> Kleidersack just point it to the partation and hit enter
[03:25] <sunyore> whois anthony
[03:26] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: *cough* who said you needed to?
[03:26] <gogeta> Kleidersack you cant add the line eh /dev/hda3
[03:26] <tyger> does anyone know how to install colinux in ubuntu?
[03:26] <longmanzz> hi
[03:26] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: don't bother, he has a hearing difficulty, poor chap
[03:26] <gogeta> thoreauputic_: hes fearing losing acess to recovery partations on a dell
[03:26] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: that's the OSS angle - you need something and can't find it?  Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:27] <gogeta> Kleidersack read
[03:27] <longmanzz> hi
[03:27] <amenado> http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/PartTables.htm  <-- mbr break down to bytes
[03:28] <longmanzz> hi
[03:28] <Xaroon> hi
[03:29] <gogeta> Kleidersack if you cant get that windows thinking tossed i hate to say it linux is not for you
[03:29] <gogeta> Kleidersack grub can load any partation
[03:29] <longmanzz> hi
[03:29] <ng0n> where do you guys go for VISTA help.  I know.  It sux.  Just curious.
[03:29] <gogeta> !windows
[03:29] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[03:30] <Kleidersack> gogeta: I know... I used grub and lilo to switch master/slave harddisks and so on... but there is no feature (afaik) to tell grub to look for the active flag... or i haven't found it in the documentation
[03:30] <gogeta> Kleidersack omg
[03:30] <gogeta> Kleidersack you dont need to
[03:30] <Kleidersack> gogeta: what?
[03:30] <gogeta> ignored
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ng0n, check /dev/null for windows help :\
[03:31] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: your problem is this: you already think you know how it is done, and are therefore deaf to any help that contradicts your preconceived idea
[03:31] <Kleidersack> on my old pc i let grub run windows on the second harddisk simulating it was the first (swapping)
[03:31] <gogeta> that guy has no concept of bootloader
[03:32] <Poe> Have a question... when I select ubuntu from my bootload after a fresh install it goes to a black screen... and the only way I can get it going is a safe boot and launch gdm through the command
[03:32] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: that sound you hear is hundreds of keyboards adding you to the /ignore list, I'm afraid...
[03:33] <Poe> anyone have an idea where I should go?
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Kleidersack, just because that's how you did it before doesn't mean that's how it's done now, gogeta told you where to look for help with grub.  i use a dell, it works fine, end of discussion
[03:33] <Poe> I mean where I should start
[03:33] <ricanelite> why is that the windows are so big in Ubuntu? Like I have the right screen resolution which is 1280x720 like I have notice that in windows vista, xp there are so much smaller
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Poe, at this point, no one wants me telling them where to go, trust me.
[03:34] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido he said his grub is blackscreening lol
[03:34] <Poe> Lol... im sorry?
[03:34] <gogeta> Poe i would check your menu.list
[03:35] <Poe> how and for what gogeta?
[03:35] <gogeta> Poe just sounds like its pointed to a bad spot
[03:35] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: Now, you are telling me to install grub to the mbr, but I don't know how to tell grub to look, for the active flag.
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> it doesn't need to
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> you were told that too
[03:35] <Poe> should I try a fresh reinstall?
[03:35] <fyrmedic> #homeschool
[03:36] <Poe> this is the first time ive tried to boot it also...
[03:36] <gogeta> Poe boot safemode and looks in /boot/grub
[03:36] <Kleidersack> Daisuke_Ido: can you run your tools partition from bios-menu?
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> Kleidersack, i can
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> no, not the bios
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> grub picks it up as a bottable partition
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> bootable*
[03:36] <danage> Kleidersack: there are plenty of guides in the ubuntu wiki on how to configure grub
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> and works just fine
[03:36] <gogeta> Poe the normel boot should point in the same place without all the options
[03:36] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: that's what I mean about preconceived ideas...
[03:36] <ricanelite> is there a way to make a default window size? for all applications I open?
[03:36] <danage> you should read some, and with the acquired knowledge, ask a qualified question here
[03:37] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido i ran that circle with him to many times
[03:37] <danage> gogeta: do you know a good kernel recompiling guide for ubuntu?
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> gogeta, i'm beginning to see that...
[03:38] <Poe> ok... shouldnt a sucsessful install boot correctly from the beginning?
[03:38] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido: he doesent understand his bios have knothing to do witrh it the bios are doing the same thing grub does change the bot order
[03:38] <gogeta> boot
[03:38] <thoreauputic_> Daisuke_Ido: There are certain people who are sort of human black holes ;)
[03:38] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido and the line makeactiv shhhh
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> thoreauputic_, i'm seeing that as well
[03:40] <gogeta> Daisuke_Ido if hes that conserned make a friggen backup if by some mircle 1202 people are wrong
[03:40] <gogeta> >:o
[03:41] <Kleidersack_> thoreauputic_: if something goes wrong with the pc and i can't boot the machine, the dell hotline tells me to run the tools-partition. If something went wrong with the linuix partition I can't do this and they tell me to run there f*** tools first; i want avoid this situation.
[03:42] <gogeta> "slams hjead"
[03:42]  * amenado provides soft pillow to gogeta
[03:42] <bhiggins> users
[03:42] <gogeta> amenado lol any mader and i start swaring
[03:43] <Mex_tux> I need help!! I have installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop and at last I could install the Broadcom driver. My question is: Do I have to type always this --> modprobe bmc43xx in order to make my wireless card work???
[03:43] <gogeta> im saying this one last time grub will load your friggen tools other dell users confermed this aruldy
[03:43] <amenado> Mex_tux-> if you know any other way, let me know.. :P
[03:43] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I rarely give this as a link, but I make an exception occasionally:  http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[03:44] <gogeta> thoreauputic_ owned
[03:44] <shira> I'm having problems with vinagre. When I use vncviewer, I'm able to connect, but not w/ vinagre. any ideas?
[03:44] <bhiggins> anyone have any luck with soundmax on sony vgn subnotebooks? every other system component works flawlessly in 7.10
[03:44] <mutk> thoreauputic_, Didn't esr declare his allegience with Ubuntu at some point?
[03:45] <xopey> has anyone gotten a bluetooth phone tethered in ubuntu using pppd to dialup?
[03:45] <javb> using ubuntu 7.10, using normal visual effects, it works very nice, but, after a while working, it starts freezing for about 5 - 8 seconds, every 10 - 20 minutes... i disable visual effects, and perfect. Any ideas?
[03:45] <thoreauputic_> mutk: didn't hear much from him since, but yes he switched from Fedora, or so he said at the time
[03:45] <Mex_tux> Is there any way to load a module on startup?
[03:45] <thoreauputic_> mutk: I think he got involved with Linspire
[03:45] <gogeta> Mex_tux yep add it to rc.d
[03:45] <gogeta> cMex_tux or init.d
[03:46] <thoreauputic_> Mex_tux: the Debian Way (TM) is to put it in /etc/modules
[03:46] <gogeta> thoreauputic_ linspire (jump off clif)
[03:46] <Kleidersack_> gogeta: the last time a broken ram caused an unreadable ext3 (so grub couldn't load its menu.lst). I had to restore the standard MBR to make the dell folks statisfied and send me new rams...
[03:46] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: /etc/modules is a better pot for bootup modules
[03:46] <thoreauputic_> *spot
[03:47] <gogeta> thoreauputic it shure is
[03:47] <sheikpunk> i have a problem... with wireless conection on ubuntu.
[03:47] <gogeta> thoreauputic guess im still mad
[03:47] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: heh :)
[03:47] <sheikpunk> after conection...
[03:48] <sheikpunk> automatic disconect..
[03:48] <cogeno> Has anyone had problems with SD Cards (or any other USB dick) giving false reports of being full?
[03:48] <gogeta> thoreauputicm alsmost makes you wanna to the rm joke
[03:48] <sheikpunk> 1, 2 minutes after conected...
[03:48] <gogeta> do
[03:48] <cogeno> I've tried formatting the card, and Thunar will report that there's something like 1.3GB left, but will still say it's full
[03:49] <sheikpunk> my laptop use chipset native rtl8187
[03:49] <Kleidersack_> cogeno: do you have the permisions to write on it?
[03:49] <sjovan> okay... i just figured out the problem. this is redicules. ---> mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -ss 00:00:16 -endpos 00:16:20 -o "dfadsga.avi" "fadsfa.avi" <---- -endpos command thinks about the new time. so since it's cut from 16 seconds from the start every thing is 16 seconds off. how can i fix this?
[03:49] <sheikpunk> tips?
[03:49] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: no, that one should *never* be done :(
[03:49] <cogeno> Kleidersack_: Yes. It's like I can only put something like 600MB on a 2GB card
[03:49] <gogeta> thoreauputic to him
[03:49] <shira> I'm having problems with vinagre. When I use vncviewer, I'm able to connect, but not w/ vinagre. any ideas?
[03:49] <gogeta> thoreauputic i  think its justfyed
[03:50] <gogeta> cogeno did you partation the card lol
[03:50] <Kleidersack_> cogeno: how many files?
[03:50] <sheikpunk> somebody?
[03:51] <gogeta> cogeno you would wanna make it just 1 and format it
[03:51] <Templario> .
[03:51] <gogeta> cogeno get all 2gb
[03:51] <cogeno> Gogeta: But it's saying it
[03:51] <cogeno> 's a 2GB partition
[03:51] <cogeno> It still says there's 1.3GB left on the card
[03:51] <gogeta> cogeno then its not ful
[03:51] <cogeno> But still says it's full if I try to put anything on it
[03:51] <sheikpunk> :(
[03:51] <Kleidersack_> cogeno: How many files do you want to write on your disk - there are limitations...
[03:52] <gogeta> cogeno i would say bad opartation table
[03:52] <gogeta> cogeno reformat the card
[03:52] <cogeno> Well, if I use my camera as the reader, I can do whatever I please with it
[03:52] <cogeno> I mean
[03:52] <cogeno> If I record videos onto the SD card witht he camera,
[03:52] <cogeno> It will do so no problem
[03:52] <cogeno> and I've already reformatted the card
[03:52] <gogeta> cogeno humm
[03:53] <gogeta> cogeno sounds like some weard driver issue
[03:53] <cogeno> and I ahd a similar issue with a 1GB card
[03:53] <gogeta> cogeno may be a issue w your reader
[03:53] <gogeta> cogeno aka bad buggy driver
[03:54] <cogeno> Tried different installs, tried a different card reader
[03:54] <gogeta> cogeno have you tryed tehering the cam and see
[03:54] <cogeno> ie. It was doing this with the install before I made a bad typo with dd
[03:54] <gogeta> using it as a reader
[03:54] <cogeno> gogeta: I am using the cam as a reader
[03:54] <gogeta> oh
[03:54] <gogeta> cogeno dd error
[03:55] <cogeno> huh?