[05:51] <lui> nalioth, I have no luck upgrading to breezy, I have tried 2 times and always is a mess to me :(
[05:51] <ajmitch_> Odyssey: check with synaptic whether you've already got wvdial installed
[05:51] <whaley> codemech: don't let that discourage you, gentoo is a great distribution
[05:51] <Wry> somebody knows where can i find the standard "sources.list" that comes with breezy?
[05:51] <adi__> can't play mp3
[05:51] <nalioth> lui: what happens?
[05:51] <whaley> i just don't have the necessary time to work with it how I would like
[05:51] <adi__> need some plugins
[05:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Wry about sources
[05:51] <Odyssey> ok you guys prolly hate me... but how do i do that? and i'm guessing i need to be on the machine with linux installed?
[05:51] <kevogod> !tell adi__ about codecs
[05:52] <codemech> whaley: NoooooO!!!! i went to ubuntu for two days and got frustrated to hell. there are so few packages in the main tree
[05:52] <adi__> so how to solve
[05:52] <newubuntu> nalioth (or anyone else)... I'm loading the live cd on my old imac again, and I think the problem stems from my choise of monitor resolution in configuring xserver-xorg
[05:52] <codemech> whaley: i couldn't even get doom III without going outside the main package tree
[05:52] <batman> can someone help me to install wine?
[05:52] <Wry> :)
[05:52] <nalioth> newubuntu: well that would be an easy fix, if it is so
[05:52] <newubuntu> well, nalioth...
[05:52] <adi__> i'm  linuxnewbie
[05:52] <nalioth> adi__: read your private messages
[05:53] <newubuntu> it seems that the default selections are 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480...
[05:53] <adi__> where nalioth?
[05:53] <nalioth> adi__: what irc client do you use?
[05:53] <whaley> codemech: lol! yeah, i don't imagine I'll stay within the main package tree for very long
[05:53] <newubuntu> ...but should I be choosing any other resolutions?
[05:53] <crimsun> batman: enable the universe repository and install wine
[05:53] <adi__> ubuntu server
[05:53] <nalioth> newubuntu: what is the native res of your tube?
[05:54] <batman> crimsun: i have the repositories setup
[05:54] <newubuntu> nalioth: the native resolution is 1024x768
[05:54] <crimsun> batman: then you can use Synaptic to install the 'wine' package
[05:54] <nalioth> newubuntu: then use that one
[05:54] <whaley> codemech: gentoo has a pretty good package system, especially for installing games that come on cds made for windows install like quake/doom
[05:54] <regeya> OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 247: (): illegal instruction in idct8x8_s16_mmx
[05:54] <FR500> batman, then sudo apt-get install wine
[05:54] <newubuntu> nalioth:  to 'choose' 1024x768, do I leave the asterix next to it, or remove it?  It's a bit confusing
[05:55] <codemech> whaley: i guess in all fairness it just a case of adding more servers to your /etc/sources file (i think it was that, been 3 years since i used debian)
[05:55] <batman> FR500: i did do that but i don't seem to find wine under the toolbar options
[05:55] <FR500> newubuntu, asterix or #
[05:55] <regeya> where where where?
[05:55] <nalioth> newubuntu: leave the asterix next to the one you want (i personally only use one res)
[05:55] <whaley> codemech: it's pretty simple with synaptic, i believe
[05:55] <FR500> batman, :D, open a console and run wine
[05:55] <codemech> whaley: i have never had dependancy problems w/ gentoo's portage, i used to get them all the time with other distros
[05:55] <batman> FR500: how do you run it from console?
[05:55] <whaley> this is true
[05:56] <FR500> batman, wine and press enter
[05:56] <whaley> i understand apt-get doesn't suffer from this as well
[05:56] <newubuntu> nalioth and FR500:  it's an asterix, and when I just have an asterix next to that one resolution, the monitor doesn't seem to work... but I'm going to try it now, and see what happens
[05:56] <adi__> so...
[05:56] <FR500> nothing else
[05:56] <batman> lol i did... hehe
[05:56] <adi__> so how to solve my problem
[05:56] <FR500> whaley, you can have some dep problems
[05:56] <batman> FR500: you can tell i'm still newb to linux :P
[05:56] <codemech> whaley: to a far lesser extent that redhat and mandriva base systems but it still does
[05:56] <FR500> whaley, it's all about what's available on your repositories
[05:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell batman about cli
[05:57] <Pokesomi> how long until 5.10 is released?
[05:57] <lui> nalioth, it always have some strange errors with missing packages, when I resolve that it installs and then I restart the system and the X's doesn't work telling me no device has been found.
[05:57] <FR500> Pokesomi, like -5 days
[05:57] <FR500> :p
[05:57] <Pokesomi> it was release 5 days ago or in 5 days?
[05:57] <broken_ladder> crimsun you around?  i have an alsa question.
[05:57] <codemechs> if a package is in the main tree, all its dependancys should be in the main tree as well IMHO but this is not always the case from what i can see
[05:57] <nalioth> lui: change your sources to plain old "archive.ubuntu.com"/bleh
[05:58] <nalioth> Pokesomi: breezy has been in the wild almost a week now
[05:58] <batman> nalioth: thanks but i've already been here for a while :P
[05:58] <FR500> Pokesomi, was 5 days ago
[05:58] <Pokesomi> ok
[05:58] <Pokesomi> just checking
[05:58] <crimsun> broken_ladder: yes?
[05:58] <nalioth> batman: you can never learn too much
[05:58] <Pokesomi> oh also my other question, are any of the linksys wireless adapters supported?
[05:58] <codemechs> the dumb ones back
[05:59] <adi__> need some plugins
[05:59] <adi__> totem movie player
[05:59] <nalioth> adi__: you have private messages somewhere in your irc client
[05:59] <FR500> Pokesomi, in hoary and warty you needed to patch kernel for the ones that use broadcom adapters
[05:59] <FR500> adi__, you need codecs i guess?
[05:59] <lui> thanks nalioth, I did that, and I had those errors
[05:59] <FR500> Pokesomi, in breezy i'm ot totally sure
[05:59] <newubuntu> nalioth: the imac is loading, and after I get the 'ubuntu' graphic, and a status bar... it runs through the various processes, and then the screen goes black
[05:59] <Pokesomi> ok i will have to test some stuff them and report back
[06:00] <newubuntu> nalioth: There is not an 'ok' after 'starting GNOME display manager'
[06:00] <Absenth> does ubuntu ship with the kernel header files, and if so where might they be?
[06:00] <Pokesomi> i will check back in when i get some cds
[06:00] <broken_ladder> crimsun okay, since upgrading to breezy, i can't get sound from my spdif connection.  this has happened a few times, generally just when i had upgraded like..the kernel or something, which happened in this case it seems.
[06:00] <FR500> Pokesomi, thats a good thing to do
[06:00] <tritium> Absenth, linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:00] <nalioth> newubuntu: do you have a console?
[06:00] <Pokesomi> i will try some stuff out and let you know
[06:00] <newubuntu> nalioth: but I think the program is loaded and running because it plays a nice startup hum
[06:01] <broken_ladder> crimsun sound works through the analog connector, and if i select "analog to iec958" in alsamixer, the red light activates on the fiberoptic.
[06:01] <newubuntu> nalioth:  yes, I called up the console
[06:01] <crimsun> broken_ladder: meaning that any attempt to use ''aplay -Dplug:iec958 foo.wav'' is unsuccessful?
[06:01] <broken_ladder> lemme try that.
[06:01] <adi__> fr500..where i can get codec?
[06:01] <broken_ladder> has to be a wave?
[06:01] <broken_ladder> can it be flac?
[06:01] <necator> is it possible to get winamp on ubuntu if so how do you install it?
[06:01] <newubuntu> nalioth:  what should I look for on the console?
[06:01] <adi__> sorry i'm newbie
[06:01] <cius> Would anyone happen to know why, when I leave my computer on at night playing music while I'm asleep, that I'm awoken by my speakers suddenly shrieking with noise that isn't my music?
[06:01] <crimsun> broken_ladder: must be pcm format; use stdin/stdout conversion
[06:01] <Absenth> tritium,  that's kinda cool, but I was thinking more along the lines of /usr/scr/linux/include
[06:01] <FR500> adi__, go to the ubuntu wiki and look for restricted formats
[06:01] <adi__> so not enough knowledge about it
[06:01] <nalioth> newubuntu: at the console, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:02] <propagandhi> cius: it could be kevin mitnick
[06:02] <Absenth> tritium, which isn't the correct location I don't think....
[06:02] <newubuntu> nalioth:  'k, will try that now
[06:02] <necator> is it possible to get winamp on ubuntu if so how do you install it?
[06:02] <tritium> Absenth, the linux-kernel-headers ?
[06:02] <crimsun> necator: try beep-media-player or xmms
[06:02] <FR500> necator, you would need wine at least or crossover office
[06:02] <cius> propagandhi, nah, I just kill esd and it stops, don't think mitnick would be foiled so easily
[06:02] <nalioth> newubuntu: it's called 'xmms' and you use synaptic to install all your software
[06:02] <necator> do they support internet radios?
[06:02] <broken_ladder> crimsun you genius!  it works.
[06:02] <propagandhi> cius: too true
[06:02] <animepunkW> any one know any good free windows emulators
[06:02] <broken_ladder> crimsun it's playing at the wrong speed though.
[06:03] <nalioth> animepunkW: qemu
[06:03] <Absenth> tritium. the question I'm looking at on my terminal is "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?"
[06:03] <necator> crimsun do those support internet radios?
[06:03] <broken_ladder> crimsun so why the heck won't alsa use it?
[06:03] <FR500> necator, get bmp and streamtuner
[06:03] <codemechs_gf> cius: sometimes that happens to me yet not every nite i'm yet to find out y that is?
[06:03] <animepunkW> thanks Nalioth !
[06:03] <FR500> necator, then in streamtuner you can configure it to open bmp when you select streams
[06:03] <newubuntu> nalioth: when I run sudo apt-get -f install   it says:  Reading package lists... Done  and then Building dependency tree... Done
[06:03] <broken_ladder> crimsun i cannot tell you what a genius you are.
[06:03] <nalioth> animepunkW: qemu is available in the repos
[06:03] <bliggy> hello again :D
[06:03] <tritium> Absenth, if you install the linux-headers-`uname -r` package, they should be under /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build, I believe
[06:03] <frank23> Absenth: install linux-kernel-headers
[06:03] <nalioth> newubuntu: and then?
[06:04] <FR500> is qemu like vmware?
[06:04] <bliggy> can someone tell me how I would go about editing xorg.conf from a command line in recovery mode?
[06:04] <newubuntu> nalioth:  and then 0 upgraded, 0 newlin installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[06:04] <cius> codemechs_gf, its really annoying, because its so loud I have to get up and turn it off.  Thing is, last night, I got up to turn it off and suddenly it just quit.  I thought it might have something to do with a cron job or something, but I can't figure it out.
[06:04] <Absenth> frank23, tritium AhA....    sorry, must be caffeine deficient
[06:04] <bimberi> bliggy: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:04] <newubuntu> nalioth: sorry 'bout the typos:  0 newly installed
[06:04] <bliggy> bimberi thank you sir
[06:04] <animepunkW> Nalioth: awsome, i was just about to check , thanks again buddy
[06:04] <FR500> bimberi, beat me....
[06:04] <broken_ladder> crimsun if you could maybe just tell me how, then, to get alsa to work with it again, i'd appreciate it.  it seems since upgrading to breezy, something has changed with alsactl and it reports errors trying to use my old config file.
[06:04] <bimberi> bliggy: yw sir :)
[06:04] <frank23> Absenth: get those chocolate covered coffee beans
[06:04] <frank23> ;-)
[06:04] <bimberi> FR500: ha
[06:05] <FR500> bbl
[06:05] <tritium> Absenth, :)
[06:05] <nalioth> newubuntu: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose a resolution that you suspect may work
[06:05] <MaxFrost> okay...video question here.  I have a radeaon 9000m, and I wish to use my external moniter...any pointers?
[06:05] <bliggy> i'm off to try... thanks guys
[06:05] <cius> oh well, thanks to those who replied and night all
[06:05] <adi__> fr500... yes and then
[06:05] <codemechs_gf> cius: thats wot i thought but i dont know i have asked that same question several times with no one ever able to give me any help that actually works.
[06:06] <newubuntu> nalioth:  I'll try taht... hold on
[06:06] <broken_ladder> crimsun don't die on me buddy, i need you at this important juncture.
[06:06] <necator> ok i downloaded xmms how do i install it ive never installed someting before on ubuntu.
[06:06] <crimsun> broken_ladder: sec, active in another channel
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> necator,  you normally dont download it. :P just 'sudo apt-get install whatever'
[06:07] <_chavo> qt2, apt-get install *
[06:07] <necator> ooo
[06:07] <Shadowline> any suggestions as to what repository to use in place of the the one stated in the topic ?
[06:07] <necator> i keep forgeting about that apt-get thing
[06:07] <adi__> fr500 open already wiki ubuntu
[06:07] <necator> its like some wonder tool lol
[06:07] <qt2> _chavo: i dont want to actually DO it, i want to know how much it'd take
[06:07] <qt2> <.<
[06:07] <adi__> waiting for further info..heheheheh
[06:07] <m477> does that working? :P
[06:07] <necator> dr willis is everything in apt get? like anytime i need somehting i can jsut go there?
[06:07] <broken_ladder> crimsun i'll wait patiently.
[06:07] <_chavo> qt2, I know, that command won't actually work
[06:08] <nalioth> necator: if you've used syaptic you dont need to d/l anything
[06:08] <codemechs_gf> necator: dr willis??
[06:08] <nalioth> necator: synaptic makes things easy
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> necator,  time to read a few apt-get docs/howtos :P
[06:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell necator about synaptic
[06:09] <dazvid> if i were to stop gdm, would my networking still run ?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> apt-get is a very well done system/tool
[06:09] <necator> i am going to read all of ubuntuguide.com this weekend but i just needed some music to go to sleep tonight :p
[06:09] <newubuntu> nalioth:  OK, I think I ran through a bunch of xserver stuff.... so now what do I do?
[06:09] <crimsun> broken_ladder: which conffile, /var/lib/alsa/asound.state?
[06:09] <bimberi> dazvid: yes
[06:09] <dazvid> kool
[06:09] <dazvid> thanks
[06:09] <nalioth> newubuntu: did you select the resolutions you wanted?
[06:09] <broken_ladder> crimsun yup
[06:09] <nalioth> necator: please dont do that
[06:09] <newubuntu> nalioth: I believe I did, but I'm still in the console, so I'm not sure if it worked
[06:09] <leetcharmer> has anyone tried installing Prelink here?
[06:09] <nalioth> necator: if you are using breezy, ubuntuguide is not for you
[06:10] <frank23> necator: read all of the wiki instead
[06:10] <frank23> leetcharmer: I use prelink
[06:10] <nalioth> newubuntu: log into teh gui and see ctrl-alt-f7
[06:10] <frank23> leetcharmer: I don't see a huge performance in performance
[06:10] <broken_ladder> crimsun this has happened often.  even first using the spdif i had problems.  every time i get it working and save a backup of the asound.state, it stops working when i upgrade quite often.  restoring the state does not fix the problem.  when the problem eventually goes away it is completely unclear what fixed it.
[06:10] <leetcharmer> frank23, how long did it take to install?
[06:10] <necator> is breezy the new one? i am using the newest one
[06:10] <dazvid> Yes breezy is the new one
[06:10] <newubuntu> nalioth: how do I log into the gui? (sorry, I'm very much a newbie)
[06:10] <nalioth> necator: then ubuntuguide will not do you any good
[06:10] <necator> o
[06:11] <crimsun> broken_ladder: try: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe <your driver>
[06:11] <necator> my friend told me to read that =(
[06:11] <nalioth> newubuntu: read my last post to you
[06:11] <frank23> leetcharmer: intalling is guick. running prelink the first time takes a while... maybe 30 minutes
[06:11] <necator> what do i read then nalioth?
[06:11] <broken_ladder> crimsun how do i know what to modprobe?
[06:11] <newubuntu> nalioth: when I do ctrl-alt-f7, the screen goes black again
[06:11] <crimsun> broken_ladder: cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:11] <nalioth> necator: newubuntu then type "ctrl-alt-backspace"
[06:11] <broken_ladder> crimsun you are sick
[06:11] <leetcharmer> frank23, wow :/ yeh -- I guess that's why this is takin' so long
[06:11] <leetcharmer> I thought somethin' was broke
[06:11] <nalioth> necator: as pointed out by frank23, read the wiki
[06:12] <DrZeus> Hi all.  How do I do to lower the speed and sensitivity of my touchpad? also to eliminate the double-click emulation of tapping the touchpad?
[06:12] <necator> where is the wiki so i can read it this weekend and what does that ctrl alt backspace do b4 i press it
[06:12] <nalioth> necator: wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:12] <newubuntu> nalioth: that brought me to    Starting periodic command scheduler
[06:12] <necator> cool xmms is working
[06:12] <necator> time to get some sleep!!
[06:12] <necator> thanks for help guys and thx for wiki link nalioth ill save it.
[06:13] <nalioth> newubuntu: no login or anything?
[06:13] <Amaranth> nalioth: alacarte working good?
[06:13] <newubuntu> nalioth: no, no login or anything
[06:13] <nalioth> Amaranth: dunno havent d/l it yet
[06:13] <Amaranth> oh
[06:13] <newubuntu> nalioth:  maybe I can't run this on the imac?  I've go the latest breezy live cd?
[06:13] <DrZeus> Hi all.  How do I do to lower the speed and sensitivity of my touchpad? also to eliminate the double-click emulation of tapping the touchpad?
[06:13] <Amaranth> !touchpad
[06:13] <ubotu> Amaranth: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:13] <Amaranth> hrm, it was worth a shot
[06:14] <nemik> i got my PCI serial (RS 232) expansion card to work! it assigned ports to ttyS14, ttyS15, ttyS50, and ttyS51 instead of ttyS2/3/4/5 like i thought! woohoo!
[06:14] <nalioth> newubuntu: there could be several things wrong, but it's not the imac
[06:14] <nemik> still drove me insane till i found that out though
[06:14] <DrZeus> what is !touchpad? some commando or something like that?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,  edit the xorg.conf (backup your original first!)
[06:14] <nalioth> newubuntu: is this livecd or installed?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,  !commands activate the url feature of the bot.
[06:14] <DrZeus> !touchpad
[06:14] <newubuntu> nalioth:  it's the livecd... I wanted to try it with the live cd before I installed anything
[06:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, DrZeus
[06:14] <codemechs_gf> DrZeus: are you using kde or gnome?
[06:15] <DrZeus> gnome
[06:15] <nalioth> newubuntu: ah. now it starts to make sense
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,  of course what changes to make is the question.   of course kde/gnome may have a few controlls intheir control panel to do some of the tweaking.
[06:15] <Revilyeknom> hmm
[06:15] <nalioth> newubuntu: did you verify your md5 checksums on the disk?
[06:16] <newubuntu> nalioth: I ran the same disk on my newer mac 12" aluminum powerbook and it worked great
[06:16] <broken_ladder> crimsun no dice.  the sound works fine on the analog output
[06:16] <DrZeus> i tried the GUI control but it made no changes at all
[06:16] <nemik> is it the PPC version, not x86, right?
[06:16] <Madpilot> has anyone else had mono crash/freeze when xscreensaver shuts the screen down?
[06:16] <DrZeus> Dr_Willis, so I need to edit xorg.conf?
[06:16] <m477> what decoders do I install for mp3 playback in kaffeine?
[06:16] <codemechs_gf> DrZeus: there is a place that will help you sorry can't remember that one buudy
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,   yes. it seems so.
[06:16] <crimsun> broken_ladder: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:16] <strannik> Hello guys, could somebody tell me one thing?
[06:16] <strannik> I have just installed ubuntu about 10 minutes ago...
[06:17] <strannik> was using suse 9.2
[06:17] <DrZeus> at least can you remember if it says in the explanation lines it has where is the speed setting?
[06:17] <nalioth> newubuntu: then i'd suspect hardware
[06:17] <DrZeus> Dr_Willis, codemechs_gf , just for not changing the wrong thing
[06:17] <strannik> i did not have the chance to get kubunto, so how could i install kde on ubuntu?
[06:17] <broken_ladder> crimsun if i run that aplay command you told me about earlier, the red light on my optical cable comes on, and ends as soon as the song is stopped.
[06:17] <nalioth> strannik: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:17] <newubuntu> nalioth: if it's the hardware, then I guess I shouldn't try installing ubuntu on that imac!  It does run Mac OSX fine, however
[06:17] <m477> strannik: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> DrZeus,  thers will be several mouse/input device entry 'paragraphs' - i suggest googling a little for some examples.
[06:18] <strannik> thank you very much =)
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> strannik,  thats a kubuntu faq #1 question. :P
[06:18] <nalioth> newubuntu: you may find it works better on the install. my ibook g3/600 works great
[06:18] <strannik> just read the unofficial faq for ubunto and it did not have it
[06:18] <bimberi> strannik: it'll be a hefty download in itself
[06:18] <DrZeus> Dr_Willis, I edited that sometimes while using slackware for choosing the correct driver for the mouse
[06:18] <newubuntu> nalioth:  OK.... when I've got time and won't get too frustrated, I'll try running a full install and we'll see what happens
[06:18] <strannik> don't worry about the download...i have unlim traffic
[06:19] <broken_ladder> crimsun http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3328 <-- THANK YOU
[06:19] <dreamwave> hi.  is there a gui program to manage grub?
[06:19] <newubuntu> nalioth:  I may also post in the forums to see if anyone else has had trouble loading ubuntu on that particular model of imac
[06:19] <DrZeus> this touchpad is giving me a hard time
[06:19] <bimberi> strannik: k :)
[06:19] <sandis> Hi! Update manager spits out this error: W: GPG error: http://lv.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:19] <sandis> . Could somebody explain what does this mean?
[06:19] <newubuntu> nalioth:  thanks very much for taking the time to help me here, I really appreciate it!
[06:19] <odd-> hmm
[06:20] <nalioth> newubuntu: np, it's what i'm here for
[06:20] <strannik> very nice chat....thank you all for it...i like it a lot better than suse
[06:20] <crimsun> broken_ladder: ice1724 driver?
[06:20] <abydos> eek
[06:20] <strannik> thanks again and bye
[06:20] <abydos> I'm confused about raids
[06:21] <abydos> if I have 3 9.1GB SCSI disks in a RAID-5, how much total storage space would that leave me?
[06:21] <Amaranth> i thought RAID-5 needed 4 or more disks
[06:21] <broken_ladder> crimsun uh..that's my other card.  that's an m-audio delta
[06:21] <broken_ladder> crimsun  i think
[06:21] <graig> hmm, i think 9.1 gigs?
[06:21] <printf> im having trouble connecting to my wireless access point.  i can see the SSID and it shows a strong signal but when i try to connect to it, i just get a continuous scrollbar...any suggestions?
[06:22] <graig> no wait im not sure.
[06:22] <abydos> Amaranth:  I was under the impression it only needed an odd number
[06:22] <abydos> graig:  that would most likely be raid-4
[06:22] <Amaranth> i thought it needed an even number
[06:22] <crimsun> broken_ladder: does iec958 work better than plug:iec958?
[06:22] <abydos> graig:  I do know that raid-4 uses least common denominator to determine the total size of the array
[06:22] <broken_ladder> crimsun better?
[06:23] <frank23> Amaranth: I thought raid-5 can be anything more than 2 disks
[06:23] <crimsun> broken_ladder: sampling rate, etc.
[06:23] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[06:23] <crimsun> broken_ladder: you mentioned wrong speed
[06:23] <Amaranth> i thought RAID-5 was 2 disks striped together and then mirrored on the other two
[06:23] <frank23> Amaranth: plus one for parity
[06:23] <codemechs_gf> frank23: that sounds right to me too
[06:23] <budluva> hrmm does ubuntu not detect my cpu properly on install? im using an athlon xp 2400 cpu but have a -386 kernel image, would it be wise to switch to -k7?
[06:24] <ecobuntu> can you get extensions for galeon?
[06:24] <Amaranth> all i've used is raid-0, striping
[06:24] <broken_ladder> crimsun they both play too fast.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  i think the -386 is the standard fail-safe default. may benifit from the otehrs.
[06:24] <Amaranth> so don't listen to me :)
[06:24] <broken_ladder> crimsun two frets too fast.  a whole step.
[06:24] <Amaranth> budluva: there isn't room on the cd for all those kernels
[06:24] <budluva> Dr_Willis, but the -k7 image is for XP processors right?
[06:24] <abydos> raid-0 can lead to catastrophic failure if one disk goes down
[06:25] <dazvid> budluva, I have amd 2600+ and im using the -386 kernel
[06:25] <Amaranth> budluva: so it installs the -386 one since it will work on them all
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  no clue there.
[06:25] <Amaranth> budluva: -k7 is what you want
[06:25] <abydos> and given this machine's primary function, having some redundancy is a Good Thing (tm)
[06:25] <budluva> Amaranth, thanks :P
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  im not even sure how much of a preformace hit you get from ust using 386
[06:25] <abydos> it's to be a media server, based on videolan
[06:26] <DigitalHobbit> so is the topic still correct and the US mirrors are broken? that would probably explain my 404 errors doing an update...
[06:26] <abydos> a good use for a mediocre P1-166/75mb RAM
[06:26] <codemechs_gf> hey will word run on linux?? i kinda need it
[06:26] <abydos> ...
[06:26] <abydos> codemechs_gf:  word will not run on linux
[06:26] <budluva> Doonz, whats up man? :P
[06:26] <abydos> codemechs_gf:  use openoffice.org
[06:27] <crimsun> broken_ladder: hmm. Were you using an ~/.asoundrc before?
[06:27] <codemechs_gf> abydos: can i transfer files that i have in word to open office?
[06:28] <DigitalHobbit> if so, can anyone recommend a reliable and fast US mirror? looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive right now
[06:28] <abydos> codemechs_gf:  yes, OOo runs word files quite handily
[06:28] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: if you use wine, you can run word
[06:28] <broken_ladder> crimsun i have that file but it has almost nothing in it, and i've never known of its existence until know.
[06:28] <abydos> aaand wtf this machine isn't booting from cd
[06:28] <abydos> it gets to where it should boot and then it reboots
[06:28] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: OOo will read and save in MS formats
[06:28] <crimsun> broken_ladder: you might want to check http://alsa.opensrc.org/ice1724
[06:28] <codemechs_gf> a_monkey: wine?
[06:28] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: if you really want to use word you can install wine
[06:28] <printf> anyone good with connecting to wireless access points?
[06:29] <broken_ladder> crimsun what would that have to do with my sound card?
[06:29] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: winehq.com
[06:29] <broken_ladder> crimsun isn't that the m-audio delta you're referring to?
[06:29] <codemechs_gf> a_monkey: cheers dude
[06:29] <crimsun> broken_ladder: which driver are you currently using?
[06:29] <broken_ladder> crimsun that's not the card with the problem.
[06:29] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: the screenshot on the home page even shows wine running word. :)
[06:29] <broken_ladder> lemme look
[06:29] <crimsun> (aside from snd-ice1724)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> word 4.0 :P
[06:30] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: so i will be able to change between word and OO?
[06:30] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: yes, of course.
[06:30] <broken_ladder> 1 snd_intel8x0
[06:30] <broken_ladder> crimsun the card with the optical out is my onboard ac97 or whatever.
[06:30] <crimsun> broken_ladder: you gave me amixer output for which card, though? It looks like the ice1724's.
[06:31] <broken_ladder> crimsun and it certainly kicks into effect when iec958 is used with aplay.
[06:31] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: sweet, thanks a lot kinda just getting my head round linux :)
[06:31] <abydos> rarrrgh
[06:31] <broken_ladder> crimsun oh i thought that was for everything.  how do i specify it?
[06:31] <abydos> this machine is acting like the CDROM is eating too much power
[06:31] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: OO will also export stuff as PDF files, which is quite cool. I send my invoices out as PDF these days
[06:32] <crimsun> broken_ladder: cat /proc/asound/modules lists the index of the driver corresponding to the device #. amixer [-c0 is assumed, but you can pass -c1, etc.]
[06:32] <abydos> wellp, I'll just have to try ubuntu, but tell it to not install jack
[06:32] <abydos> actually, not install anything at all without prompting me
[06:32] <abydos> because I want this machine as barebones as possible
[06:33] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: it seems a lot harder to get set up but onces things are set up it seems a lot easier :) Sweet thas a huge help, it normallt takes me ages to do invoices
[06:33] <broken_ladder> crimsun it appears that the card numbers referred to by amixer are the opposite of the convention alsa uses.  alsamixer has the ac97 ich5 one as card 0, whereas with amixer it's 1, and the maudio is 0.
[06:33] <trinitrogen> When sudo'd into root in a terminal, I give the nautilus command and get "(nautilus:8008): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:34] <codemechs_gf> are there many chicks in here?
[06:34] <crimsun> broken_ladder: ...that doesn't seem possible
[06:34] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: It won't make doing invoices any faster, but it gives you more options for delivering them
[06:34] <Madpilot> ;)
[06:34] <bimberi> trinitrogen: if you must run nautilus as root, do a "sudo nautilus" in a non root shell
[06:34] <broken_ladder> crimsun it's the truth.
[06:34] <codemechs_gf> coz i feel really dumb asking these questions i feel real blonde (they seem so simple to others)
[06:35] <trinitrogen> bimberi: I just upgraded to breezy today from hoary. I like in hoary how I could just open up a root termnal, can I do that with Breezy?
[06:35] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: ok wot options does it give you other than sending in pdf?
[06:35] <broken_ladder> crimsun oh wait.
[06:35] <broken_ladder> crimsun it appears that reloading the drivers i just loaded them in the opposite order.
[06:36] <broken_ladder> crimsun so know alsamixer does indeed correspond to it.
[06:36] <nalioth> bimberi: opening a root nautilus isn't a good idea
[06:36] <broken_ladder> one sec crimsun lemme paste the right card into pastebin
[06:36] <broken_ladder> crimsun http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3329
[06:36] <Knelix> Guys, any good app to quickly make movies of the desktop?
[06:36] <Madpilot> codemechs_gf: OO can save docs in a pile of different formats... various versions of MS Word/Office/Works, other word processors, etc
[06:36] <bimberi> trinitrogen: "sudo -i" in a normal terminal, or set up a launcher that does "gksudo gnome-terminal"
[06:37] <bimberi> nalioth: i know, that's why i said "f you must run nautilus as root"
[06:37] <Knelix> I am trying to take quick movies of Celestia in action.
[06:37] <bimberi> s/"f/"if/
[06:37] <ksmurf> anyone have any ideas why I cannot access ( i can access but no screen) another terminal on a laptop f1-f6 have a blanked screen f7 is the only one I can work in.  During boot I can but as soon as the xsever starts nada.
[06:38] <crimsun> broken_ladder: ok, then you probably need to create an ~/.asoundrc for your intel8x0 card. See the intel8x0 driver section on the wiki that I pointed you to.
[06:38] <codemechs_gf> Madpilot: ok, mite go and get that then it looks like its the way to go then if i can use it for a verious no of task :) although it will be a new programme to use :( but i guess i will have that with a new (and hopefully better) system
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> ksmurf,  framebuffer device may be messing with the other displays.
[06:38] <dazvid> codemechs_gf, if you are on ubuntu, you will already have open office
[06:39] <dazvid> codemechs_gf, goto applications > office
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> ksmurf,  or its some odd X/console issue - ive seen a few of those in the past
[06:39] <a_monkey> codemechs_gf: yep. it comes with it
[06:39] <broken_ladder> crimsun is this something new with breezy?
[06:39] <broken_ladder> crimsun i never had to do this before and it always worked (with occasional disruptions)
[06:39] <codemechs_gf> dazvid: ok then will just try that now then thanks :)
[06:39] <broken_ladder> crimsun this would seem to mean that every user would have to have this file to use spdif.
[06:40] <crimsun> broken_ladder: no, it's not new for Breezy. You shouldn't be having the issue.
[06:40] <ksmurf> can I disable the frmebuffer.  If so how?
[06:40] <codemechs_gf> bye bye all
[06:40] <printf> anyone here use BX?  i havent used it for some time... back when i had command line slack...
[06:41] <sampan> printf, i don't use bx ... tried it for about two hours and switched to irssi -- never looked back
[06:42] <broken_ladder> crimsun i don't see realtek in the card matrix.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> ksmurf,  could boot and not go into X and see if the consoel works..    not sure of the simplist way to do this for a beginner.
[06:42] <printf> is irssi command line?
[06:42] <strannik> Hello guys, a little time ago, on my question on how to install the kde on ubuntu, i got an answer to do this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> printf,  yes
[06:42] <strannik> i got error message:
[06:42] <broken_ladder> crimsun Card: Intel ICH5                                                                                Chip: Realtek ALC650F
[06:42] <broken_ladder> printf yup
[06:42] <ksmurf> How do I keep from going into X....
[06:42] <strannik> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <strannik> i suspect that my /etc/apt/sources.list is incorrect
[06:43] <sampan> printf, yeah -- it's console (text) only
[06:43] <ksmurf> if I can't kill gdm?
[06:43] <broken_ladder> ksmurf you could just change your run level so there's no gui login.
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> ksmurf,  could try the rescue mode, or edit the grub entry  and append 'single' to the end.
[06:43] <sampan> printf  if you installed breezy, it's already on there i think
[06:43] <broken_ladder> Dr_Willis no that's a terible hack.
[06:43] <tritium> broken_ladder, that's not how debian/ubuntu work
[06:43] <printf> yeah i just installed breezy today
[06:43] <broken_ladder> tritium there's a runlevel in ubuntu.
[06:44] <crimsun> broken_ladder: realtek makes the ac97 codec, not the dsp.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> gdm is started as a service by the rc2.d  runlevel last i looked
[06:44] <broken_ladder> okay, so it's intel then i guess.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> could disable that also.
[06:44] <sampan> printf, it should be installed :)  i usually run it in 'screen' -- so open it via term: screen irssi
[06:44] <tritium> broken_ladder, yes, there are runlevels, but changing the runlevel is not how to avoid gdm login
[06:44] <sampan> but then again, i'm on kde, not gnome
[06:44] <ksmurf> What is the option DPMS in xorg for?
[06:44] <printf> but im havibg trouble connecting to my access point...will breezy connect to WPA-PSK?
[06:44] <strannik> i installed Hoary Hedgehog
[06:44] <stephen_> How do I change the color of my desktop icon fonts?
[06:45] <ksmurf> would that option have anything (DPMS) to do with it?
[06:46] <ksmurf> I just commented it out and I'll try and reboot brb
[06:46] <broken_ladder> stephans well that would be more of a gnome issue specifically but..
[06:47] <dabaR> Hey, My firefox slows down my system very much, in that when I drag my other windows I see multiple pictures of the window...http://dabar.selfip.org/z.png <-screenshot, also, it crashes. It is since the breezy upgrade.
[06:47] <printf> i take it ubuntu and wireless are about as easy as any other dist and wireless
[06:47] <budluva> anyone know how to pass an xsession command before usplash boots up? ie my monitor is really old and shitty, so i have to run this command before my gnome session starts (xgamma -d :0 -gamma 3.0) to get my monitor to the right brightness, but usplash is dark and very hard to read, just wondering how i can pass this command for usplash
[06:47] <stephen_> printf: Actually, wireless under ubuntu is pretty painless
[06:47] <broken_ladder> stephans that's a good question actually.  i checked under fonts and that doesn't change color, just size and actual font.
[06:48] <stephen_> i have a crappy mini-pci Ralink card in one of my computers, and even that works flawlessly.
[06:48] <stephen_> Yeah, broken_ladder, that was where I looked immediately
[06:48] <stephen_> I've toyed with my theme config file.
[06:48] <broken_ladder> budluva you couldn't put those settings in xorg.conf?
[06:48] <budluva> broken_ladder where in xorg.conf?
[06:48] <printf> stephen_: then why can i see my access point SSID but when i try to connect it just scrolls and will not connect?
[06:48] <broken_ladder> dabaR your computer isn't old and slow is it?
[06:48] <stephen_> printf, open a console and type iwconfig
[06:49] <stephen_> what does it say?
[06:49] <strannik> when i type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop i get the following error: E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <strannik> could somebody help me install it please????
[06:49] <printf> the box is powered down as of now..been messing with it all day...in WIn now
[06:49] <broken_ladder> crimsun so you don't see any apparent reason why aplay works but selecting alsa doesn't work through spdif?
[06:49] <Discipulus> ubuntu use Alsa or OSS?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> strannik,  try a 'apt-cache search kubuntu' and see if its mentioned.
[06:49] <stephen_> Disc: Ubuntu can use either.
[06:49] <sampan> strannik, i was getting that same error for a while from the repos -- then suddenly this morning it went through just fine
[06:50] <dabaR> broken_ladder: no, not at all. and it did not do this before the upgrade.
[06:50] <dabaR> no posts on the forum on this.
[06:50] <evilroot> Anybody willing to tep me through a few things?
[06:50] <printf> stephen_: what are some things to try when i get back into ubuntu?
[06:50] <dabaR> evilroot: just ask.
[06:50] <evilroot> First up:  Paritioning
[06:50] <stephen_> printf: Try setting all the options manually with iwconfig
[06:50] <dabaR> printf: use System.out.println is one suggestion :P
[06:50] <budluva> broken_ladder where in my xorg.conf would i put that xgamma line?
[06:51] <stephen_> use lsmod to check that your wireless cards module is detected properly
[06:51] <animepunkW> anyone know why i get an error "warning: could not open /dev/net/tun: no virtual network emulation
[06:51] <animepunkW> " when running qemu
[06:51] <broken_ladder> budluva that's something i'm really not sure of, but it seems likely that you could do it that way.
[06:51] <evilroot> The Wiki mentions a "NewWorld" partition but then doesn't tell you what that is
[06:51] <strannik> ok, that didn't give me anything.
[06:51] <strannik> i mean the 'apt-cache search kubuntu command
[06:51] <dabaR> evilroot: you need a new world partition for yaboot, and one for ubuntu, and one for swap. the yaboot one can be even 10 MB, afaik.
[06:51] <strannik> the thing is that I am behind a proxy server
[06:51] <evilroot> Aight
[06:51] <tritium> strannik, kubuntu-desktop is in main.  Have you done a sudo apt-get update?
[06:51] <stephen_> My card has a little glitch where you actually have to deactivate and reactivate the card every time I reboot to get it to work.  I 'm sure I could automate a script to do that, but, too lazy
[06:52] <dabaR> evilroot: its an option for the partition type/file system, in the MacOS X partitioner that comes with the installation CD for OSX.
[06:52] <strannik> i am in a lan and i put the proxy settings in using the config. editor
[06:52] <evilroot> So 10mb yaboot, 4gb Ubuntu ext3, 1gb swap, and the rest to OS X
[06:52] <printf> stephen_: i'll try that stuff thanks...its been a headache, i can see all 3 of my access points but cannot connect to them
[06:52] <ksmurf> ok recovery mode had no issues and I'm back and still no go
[06:52] <strannik> tritium, yes i have done it
[06:52] <strannik> serveral times...just to make sure =)
[06:53] <stephen_> What brand of card is it?
[06:53] <evilroot> Should I install Tiger or Ubuntu first?
[06:53] <stephen_> And is this a laptop you're talking about?
[06:53] <dabaR> tiger, I would think.
[06:53] <evilroot> Yes, laptop
[06:53] <dabaR> evilroot: when talking to me, prepend the msg with my nick, like so<---
[06:53] <printf> stephen_: its a mini pci card in a emachine laptop (not sure of brand of card)
[06:53] <stephen_> Eesh. You might wanna look for a custom driver.
[06:54] <stephen_> It might be the same ralink mini-pci card I have
[06:54] <evilroot> I'm assuming Airpor won't be supported -.-
[06:54] <animepunkW> tiger might wright over your bootloader , if you install tiger 2nd . i know windows dose grr
[06:54] <dabaR> evilroot: airport extreme - no. same here.
[06:54] <evilroot> dabaR:  ugh, figures
[06:54] <ispiked> sup, bitches.
[06:55] <dabaR> see you later ispiked
[06:55] <strannik> so what could be the problem with it?
[06:55] <ispiked> dabaR: I was just joking. Chill out.
[06:55] <printf> stephen_: so i may still see the access points and signal strength even though my card may not be properly installed?
[06:55] <tritium> ispiked, please don't use that language here
[06:55] <stephen_> I had that problem with a Linksys PCI card
[06:56] <evilroot> Aight, so 4 paritions . . . . Tiger installed first
[06:56] <stephen_> I have a nother linksys card that automatically freezes the computer whenever you put it in.
[06:56] <bimberi> strannik: put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin ...
[06:56] <printf> i need to pull the card and chack the brand...
[06:56] <evilroot> dabaR:  I'm aware of how to use nicktab
[06:56] <sri> hi all
[06:56] <bimberi> !pastebin
[06:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:56] <sri> does xchat or xchat-gnome segvault for you guys on breezy?
[06:56] <sri> it segfaults immediatelyfor em.
[06:56] <dabaR> evilroot: good.
[06:56] <stephen_> I'm using xchat right now, sri.
[06:56] <strannik> sorry, english is not my native language, what is pastebin?
[06:57] <sri> stephen_: so I'm at a loss as to why it's breaking for me.
[06:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell strannik about pastebin
[06:57] <stephen_> Well, if you could find out what brand of card it is, that'd help
[06:57] <stephen_> brb, just upgraded to xchat-gnome
[06:58] <evilroot> dabaR:  does Tiger need to be on a certain partition, or does it care?
[06:58] <screevo> xchat-gnome works fine with me.
[06:58] <evilroot> IE Primary vs. extended
[06:58] <screevo> <-stephen
[06:58] <sri> interesging.
[06:58] <sri> I removed some gconf crap
[06:59] <sri> and it seems to be more stable.
[06:59] <sri> ha,spoke toosoon
[06:59] <sri> it died
[06:59] <sri> stephen2: thanks for trying it out
[06:59] <sri> I would suspect that xchat crashing would be a big deal. :)
[07:00] <printf> is there a list of sys req's for ubuntu?
[07:00] <stephen2> Yes
[07:00] <strannik> bimberi, ok got the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3330
[07:01] <stephen2> 32 megs ram, 350 mb HD space for a minimum install (1.8 for a typical)
[07:01] <stephen2> processor speed doesnt have a specific requirement.
[07:01] <tritium> sri, it would be, if it was happening to multiple people
[07:01] <stephen2> But, your probably gonna have the most luck with something over a 1gHz.
[07:01] <sri> tritium: indeed
[07:01] <sri> I think it has somethign to do with my .xchat2 dir
[07:01] <tritium> perhaps
[07:02] <bimberi> strannik: ok, you need to edit that file and uncomment all lines beginning with "deb http....".  Then "sudo apt-get update" and try installing kubuntu-desktop again
[07:02] <sri__> this is me on xchat-gnome
[07:02] <sri__> wow
[07:02] <sri__> I'm working
[07:02] <sri> get out of here
[07:02] <GNULinuxer> fabbione: any idea when Rosetta will be free?
[07:02] <sri> "there can be only one"
[07:03] <printf> i have read that if winXP will run on a machine fine, ubuntu will have no prob...true?
[07:03] <evilroot> hrm
[07:03] <evilroot> seems like dabaR disappeared
[07:03] <strannik> bimberi, thanks
[07:03] <stephen2> Printf: Ubuntu probably requires less than WinXP
[07:03] <printf> ok
[07:03] <bimberi> strannik: yw :)
[07:03] <stephen2> But yeah, if XP can run, ubuntu can run
[07:03] <printf> i figured...most linux dist's do
[07:04] <stephen2> i mean, I have an Athlon 3000+ with a gig of ram and an GeForce 6600GT, so, I don't usually have problems with system requirements
[07:04] <tritium> printf, but not all devices are supported
[07:04] <sri> oaky, someone in xchat-gnome try to turn on the perl plugin
[07:04] <sri> and see if it crashes
[07:04] <strannik> bimberi, is there any where else that i should enter my proxy information for apt-get to work normally?
[07:05] <fabbione> GNULinuxer: nope
[07:05] <printf> the only device in question would probably be my dlink pcmcia wireless card
[07:05] <stephen2> Perl Interface Loaded
[07:05] <stephen2> no problems
[07:05] <GNULinuxer> fabbione: ok.
[07:05] <sri> weird.
[07:05] <sri> it totally crashes for me.
[07:07] <strannik> ok, i'm now getting this error message: Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg
[07:07] <strannik>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[07:07] <strannik> i have a proxy through which i get my internet , it is <IP_ADDRESS>:3128, where else do i put it in so that apt-get will work.
[07:08] <stephen2> If you can get to webpages, your repos will work
[07:08] <bimberi> strannik: you can add a line like "export http_proxy=http://user:pass@address.of.proxy:port" to .bashrc (or /etc/profile to apply to all users)
[07:08] <bimberi> strannik: that's .bashrc in your home directory btw :)
[07:09] <bimberi> strannik: test it first with "export http_proxy=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128" in the shell before you apt-get
[07:09] <synackuator> my 0 key doesn't work once in gnome - i think i jacked something in keyboard shortcuts even though nothing is showing
[07:09] <synackuator> anyone know how to reset keyboard shortcuts via a conf file somewhere?
[07:10] <strannik> ok bimberi, gonna try it now, just really don't like using gnome, i am really not used to it
[07:10] <ksmurf> It was xscreensaver that was causing my terminal issues
[07:12] <fliplr> so is anyone sucessfully using the gnome bluetooth file manager in 5.10?
[07:12] <Orborde> Can someone help me sort out some streaming media stuff?
[07:13] <fliplr> i can transfer files to/from my phone, but none of the gnome bluetooth apps that ship with 5.10 work
[07:13] <ispiked> Orborde: what's your question?
[07:16] <carl> Hey, can anyone tell me how to setup an irc server?
[07:17] <Orborde> ispiked: Never mind. I figured it out. I was trying to get an mp3 stream to work.
[07:17] <Absenth> Ubuntu keeps it's kernel headers in?  /lib/modules/%kernel version%
[07:17] <Absenth> ?
[07:17] <Orborde> ispiked: Mplayer's mozilla plugin downloaded the file and played it, and only got the first 20 seconds.
[07:17] <Orborde> ispiked: I added the URL as an Internet Radio Station in Rhythmbox, and that's working fine.
[07:18] <carl> nevermind, I figured it out
[07:18] <ispiked> Orborde: cool.
[07:18] <carl> How do you make yourself an admin on your irc server?
[07:18] <ispiked> Absenth: I think you spelled your name wrong. ;)
[07:18] <Absenth> ispiked, you're one of maybe 100,000 people who actually get it :)
[07:19] <evilroot> Odd
[07:19] <tritium> Absenth, did you install linux-headers-`uname -r`?
[07:19] <Absenth> ispiked, it's spelled wrong just for that reason.  :)
[07:19] <evilroot> When I try to partition this drive it won't let me use hda1
[07:19] <Absenth> tritium, yeah, it says they are already installed.
[07:19] <strannik> bimberi, i added the line to .bashrc that you told me and now i get error message:
[07:19] <evilroot> its an unknown FS of 0 size
[07:19] <nalioth> evilroot: you cant manipulate a mounted drive
[07:19] <carl> can anyone test if my irc server works for me?
[07:19] <strannik> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:19] <strannik> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:19] <evilroot> Is not mounted
[07:19] <tritium> Absenth, dpkg -L linux-headers-`uname -r` will tell you where they are.  There should at least be a symlink under /lib/modules/`uname -r` named build
[07:20] <bimberi> strannik: did you sudo?
[07:20] <evilroot> Should I be using a different utility to repartition a Mac disk?
[07:20] <carl> Can you guys see my messages?
[07:20] <evilroot> carl:  No, no we can't
[07:20] <carl> Ok, just checking
[07:20] <ispiked> carl: yes.
[07:20] <carl> lol
[07:21] <pirate> hi guys, im new to ubuntu, a friend of mine used my computer i dont what she did but everytime i click minimize the whole window disappears
[07:21] <carl> So... who here are Ubuntu developers?
[07:21] <Absenth> tritium, thanks man.....
[07:21] <tritium> sure
[07:21] <strannik> i did export sudo apt-get update and that is the error message that i got
[07:21] <ispiked> pirate: oooh. sounds pretty nasty.
[07:21] <pirate> how do i restore it
[07:21] <ispiked> pirate: is it still in your alt+tab index?
[07:22] <bimberi> strannik: export?
[07:22] <bimberi> strannik: just "sudo apt-get update"
[07:22] <ispiked> pirate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74987
[07:22] <pirate> i dont follow you ispiked
[07:22] <ispiked> pirate: haha, that's you.
[07:22] <pirate> alt-tab?
[07:22] <ispiked> pirate: that's your thread, no. alt+<tab>
[07:23] <ispiked> pirate: as in the tab key.
[07:23] <strannik> bimberi, i did just that i i got the error message that i pasted
[07:23] <Absenth> it's a bit burried, but I found it.....  tritium, I was about 45 seconds away from having to duct tape my head together....    :)  thanks
[07:23] <bimberi> strannik: ok, is there another apt process running (such as synaptic)
[07:23] <bimberi> ?
[07:23] <broken_ladder> crimsun what if i were to use aplay to access my music somehow, say by piping it.  can you think of any reason it might be playing the music too fast?
[07:23] <tritium> heh
[07:23] <pirate> ok
[07:23] <strannik> nope, wait a sec i'll check just to make sure
[07:23] <ispiked> pirate: so, is that your thread that I linked to?
[07:24] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[07:24] <strannik> bimberi, no nothing else is running.
[07:24] <jhank> hi! has anyone installed lufs?
[07:24] <jhank> i've got no idea what to do with the lufs-source
[07:24] <ispiked> pirate: check out that link I gave you.
[07:24] <pirate> gona try the task switcher now like what was suggested on the thread
[07:24] <ispiked> pirate: apparently it's not you that posted it. :)
[07:25] <jhank> there should be a module loaded
[07:25] <pirate> thanks ispiked
[07:25] <bimberi> strannik: "env | grep http" and check that your proxy variable looks ok
[07:26] <DVSoftware> us.archive.ubuntu.com is broken <---- it seems fine now
[07:26] <jhank> has anyone got an idea?
[07:26] <DVSoftware> it's not :(
[07:26] <strannik> this is what my .bashrc file looks like: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3331
[07:26] <DVSoftware> last two packages are missing
[07:26] <DVSoftware> damn it
[07:27] <carl> I have a question, can someone answer it? :P
[07:27] <DVSoftware> just ask
[07:27] <strannik> env | grep http gave me out: http_proxy=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128
[07:27] <carl> Does anyone know of an accessible irc chat client for a friend of mine?
[07:28] <DVSoftware> carl, what kind of accessibility?
[07:28] <carl> For a blind person
[07:28] <ispiked> gaim is big on accessibility, no?
[07:28] <norskfjord> hi
[07:28] <norskfjord> How do I get internet sharing working?
[07:28] <carl> screen reader accessible
[07:28] <norskfjord> from ppp0
[07:28] <DVSoftware> carl: i would use screenreader
[07:29] <bimberi> strannik: hm, that looks fine :|, how about "ps aux | grep apt" (to look for other apt processes)
[07:29] <carl> is that a client?
[07:29] <DVSoftware> carl: nope
[07:29] <carl> He has a screen reader called JFW
[07:29] <DVSoftware> it's application that reads content of the screen
[07:29] <carl> and he wants one that is accessible with an irc client for windows
[07:29] <carl> he is using Jaws for windows
[07:29] <carl> which is a screen reader
[07:30] <DVSoftware> ooops... look at the channel name
[07:30] <DVSoftware> do you see windows somewhere ;)
[07:30] <lui> hey, hey
[07:30] <carl> No, but if there is one for linux there is mostly one for windows :p
[07:30] <lui> what do I need to run wmv in gxine?
[07:30] <carl> but hey, do you know a screenreader for linux that doesn't need a synthysizer?
[07:31] <DVSoftware> lui: winblows codecs
[07:31] <Peps> My network configuration (laptop) hangs for a long time at boot. My guess is it tries to activate eth0 (wireless) even thou it is disabled in /etc/network/interfaces. Can anyone help - it's very annoying
[07:31] <lui> DVSoftware, great! ;)
[07:31] <DVSoftware> Peps: ctrl+c when it hangs
[07:31] <Peps> and manually ifup it. I know - still very annoying
[07:32] <ispiked> Peps: anything relevant in dmesg?
[07:32] <carl> do you know of a screenreader that doesn't need a synthisizer?
[07:32] <lui> DVSoftware, and where I can get it?
[07:32] <Peps> no. In the end it gives up and all is OK, it's just takes more than a minute
[07:33] <mahangu> how do ikill all programs blocking my soundcard?
[07:33] <mahangu> kill all esd says nothing is block
[07:33] <mahangu> realplayer works
[07:33] <mahangu> but mplayer wont
[07:33] <Peps> dmesg  | grep eth0 ==> eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[07:33] <strannik> bimberi, this is what i got when doing ps aux ...: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3332
[07:34] <ispiked> Peps: it's not wireless, is it?
[07:34] <Peps> eth0 is wireless, eth1 ethernet
[07:34] <Peps> HP is strange
[07:35] <DVSoftware> Peps: essid
[07:35] <ispiked> Peps: and you're sure it's not just trying to find an access point?
[07:35] <bimberi> strannik: there's an "apt-get update" running somewhere
[07:35] <Peps> I am pretty sure it *does* try - I want to disable it!
[07:35] <da_bon_bon> is it recomended to build kernels on ubuntu ? i want a 2.6.13 kernel with suspend2 enabled ..
[07:35] <DVSoftware> well, i have button on my hp
[07:35] <DVSoftware> that turns off wireless card
[07:35] <Peps> what is essid??
[07:36] <DVSoftware> accesspoint name
[07:36] <mahangu> kiling sound anyone?
[07:36] <norskfjord> How do I get internet connection sharing in Ubuntu working from dialup?
[07:36] <Peps> Yes I have the wireless turned off in hardware
[07:36] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: don't ubuntu kernels come with suspend2 already enabled?
[07:37] <da_bon_bon> no, ispiked
[07:37] <DVSoftware> Peps: just one thing come on my mind
[07:37] <carl> If anyone can tell me a good screenreader for linux that doesn't need a synthisizer my friend can use ubuntu!
[07:37] <budluva> can anyone tell me why Device Manager shows my TNT2 card with a PCI bus? when its an AGP card?
[07:37] <DVSoftware> Peps: blacklist kernel module for your wlan card
[07:37] <MM2> I would like to have another screencapture tool than ubuntus default. It should save screencapture automagically to home after pressing hotkey. Any suggestions?
[07:37] <strannik> bimberi,ok tried to kill proccesses through top
[07:37] <Peps> DVSoftware: never did that before - how?
[07:38] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: I thought it had support for hibernating. maybe with acpi or something?
[07:38] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: with swsusp thats in upstream kernel.
[07:38] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: hrm...
[07:38] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: we're talking 5.10 here...
[07:38] <Peps> If I want to post a bug report, where should it go?
[07:38] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: as am i.
[07:39] <DVSoftware> Peps: really dunno
[07:39] <DVSoftware> gtg
[07:39] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: on the live CD it had hibernate as an option.
[07:39] <Peps> DVSoftware: thanks
[07:39] <strannik> bimberi: but that didn't help much, how do i kill the darn process?
[07:39] <ispiked> Peps: what drivers are you using?
[07:39] <bimberi> strannik: try with "sudo top"
[07:40] <bimberi> strannik: or "sudo kill 28641"
[07:40] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: that is using software suspend1 . not 2
[07:40] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: ah.
[07:40] <Peps> ispiked: not sure - nothing in lsmo seem relevant
[07:40] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: what's the difference between 1 and 2?
[07:40] <ispiked> Peps: lspci?
[07:41] <sizzam> any mplayer experts in here tonight?   i can't seem to fix my choppy mpg playback problems
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: faster, works, and much more configurable
[07:41] <ispiked> sizzam: maybe in #mplayer?
[07:41] <sizzam> thanks
[07:41] <outz> ubuntu has made a lot of lives easier
[07:41] <outz> i was going to start a fund for the dev team
[07:41] <ispiked> da_bon_bon: hrm... I might be interested in this. :)
[07:41] <outz> to buy them hookers
[07:41] <outz> anyone down?
[07:41] <Peps> ispiked: probably this 0000:02:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 4223 (rev 05)
[07:41] <da_bon_bon> ispiked: i like it very much.
[07:42] <ispiked> Peps: you using ipw2*00?
[07:42] <Chiba> OK, Ubuntu noob here. The docs start with After you've installed Ubuntu but I need help installing it. I keep getting an error where the side of the screen fills up with "Killed" anyone around that is willing to help me?
[07:42] <bimberi> MM2: in breezy the Print key takes a screenshot (see System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts)
[07:42] <ispiked> Peps: lsmod |grep ipw
[07:42] <Peps> lsmod | grep ipw
[07:42] <Peps> ipw2200                71820  0
[07:42] <Peps> firmware_class          9984  1 ipw2200
[07:42] <Peps> ieee80211              23332  1 ipw2200
[07:42] <strannik> bimberi, thanks a bunch, I don't know how much I can thank you. its just really nice when you just installed a distibution and you get so much help.
[07:42] <ispiked> Peps: yeah, you're using ipw, then.
[07:42] <outz> :(
[07:43] <bimberi> strannik: you're welcome :)
[07:43] <Peps> ispiked: is that good or bad :)
[07:43] <sonoud> anyone tried nerolinux?
[07:43] <Peps> sonoud: k3b much better
[07:43] <ispiked> Peps: neither. :)
[07:43] <Peps> ispiked: but does it help?
[07:43] <ispiked> Peps: well... I don't know if what you're seeing is really a bug or not.
[07:44] <Peps> ispiked: I don't think the system should try to start eth0, if ny interfaces file says 'auto lo eth1'
[07:44] <strannik> bimberi: i wonder if there is a way to send beer through telnet for you =)
[07:44] <sonoud> Peps, it just killed my two DVD disks.
[07:44] <ispiked> Peps: yeah.
[07:45] <bimberi> strannik: lol, Ukranian beer? :)
[07:45] <ispiked> Peps: it's probaly not something that shold be filed on ipw2200's bug tracker, then.
[07:45] <evilroot> mmmmmm, beer
[07:45] <Peps> sonoud: k3b or nerolinux
[07:45] <sonoud> Peps, k3b
[07:46] <strannik> ok, so you checked my ip address, always new that i should go through some kind of cgi proxy and fyi, ukrainian beer is one of the best beers of the world, have travelled a lot and my friends have too and they confirme it too...
[07:46] <cafuego_> Is there a cmdline word-to-html converter for Linux?
[07:46] <sonoud> Peps, i had a weird story about k3b. if you want to listen
[07:46] <Peps> sonoud: Have been using k3b for a long time now - not even one coaster so far
[07:46] <oasiao> Hello
[07:46] <Peps> sonoud: weired is good :)
[07:47] <oasiao> is there a web page or does anyone know how  or if you can update hoary to breezy ?
[07:47] <bimberi> strannik: it was only after you said that english wasn't great (except it seems very good to me!)
[07:47] <ispiked> oasiao: download the install Cd for breezy and then choose to upgrade.
[07:47] <Peps> oasiao: look in ubuntu forums
[07:47] <strannik> bimberi: still not good enough, gone for a smoke: i'll die untill the update of the package lists will finish
[07:48] <norskfjord> How do I get internet connection sharing in Ubuntu working from dialup?
[07:48] <ispiked> oasiao: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[07:48] <oasiao> alright thanks
[07:48] <sonoud> Peps, I keep posting my weird story in all different channels here. so I just try to simplify my story. I burn in k3b. speed is slow. told me succesfully. no error. can't mout in linux. the same error to mout a blank disk. then tried in windows. can't open it. then ask nero to open it. can see the file name list. then use nero to burn nothing. then works.
[07:48] <Peps> norskfjord, get guarddog and guiddog
[07:50] <Peps> sonoud: I assume you tried a different brand of disks?
[07:50] <oasiao> sweet i just figured somethign cool out , thanks , ill be back later to report what i find
[07:50] <oasiao> :)
[07:51] <norskfjord> Peps, apt-get intall guarddog?
[07:51] <Chiba> Anyone willing to help me with some instal problems? I'm pretty new to linux but I've been using computers for about 21 years so I'm not totally dumb about all of this.
[07:51] <Peps> norskfjord, and guidedog
[07:51] <sonoud> Peps, didn't understand what you mean. just clarify some points.  1, I burned two disks in k3b. the same problem. 2, I used nero to burn the broken dvd disk. (burn nothing, no new file). it fixed the broken dvd disk.
[07:52] <topyli> window placement on gnome seems to be broken. it used to remember window positions but now apps start all over the place :(
[07:52] <norskfjord> alright, thanks, how is Ubuntu for winmodem support? or do I have to download drivers?
[07:52] <Peps> sonoud: I understood. Just asked if you tried differnt brands of DVD's. are cdrom's OK?
[07:53] <DShepherd> norskfjord: more than likely...you'll have todownload
[07:53] <topyli> norskfjord: they're not supported, period. you may find drivers from linmodems.org or whatver the site was called
[07:53] <norskfjord> Is Version 5.04 the newest release?
[07:54] <norskfjord> I just got the cds sent yesterday
[07:54] <DShepherd> no 5.10
[07:54] <carl> 5.10 is the latest
[07:54] <topyli> norskfjord: 5.10 just came out
[07:54] <norskfjord> hmm
[07:54] <sonoud> Peps, I only tried RiTek DVD.  The burner is new. i just bought it yesterday. I used k3b to burn cds in my old cd burner before. that was fine.
[07:54] <carl> you have to order again, lmao
[07:54] <carl> I ordered like 18 cds
[07:54] <norskfjord> I love the PPC Live CD, it's great for my G3 iBook because it's hdd is broken
[07:54] <norskfjord> so I can boot that and ssh to my server
[07:54] <carl> who here "works" for Ubuntu?
[07:54] <budluva> how do i know if im using the right graphics card driver? i have an nvidia tnt2 mach64 using breezy im pretty sure that xorg.conf uses the nv module, but for some reason when i run nvidia-settings it doesnt show any info, just ok and close
[07:54] <Peps> sonoud: I would return the burner if I were you and get another brand
[07:55] <Sourceror> I want some programs to be made available for synaptic.
[07:55] <Sourceror> They are speed-reading software and I think that that's pretty cool.  Who do I have to bug to get this done?
[07:55] <Peps> sonoud: I assume you made sure you have the latest firmware?
[07:55] <sonoud> Peps, that is the best brand. what is the latest firmware? what is firmware?
[07:55] <Sourceror> By the way, I searched for them with my copy of synaptic and I have multiverse and universe open.
[07:56] <Peps> sonoud: which brand is it? go to the company site and look for "drivers"
[07:56] <topyli> so is this just my problem or does gnome 2.12 forget window positions while 2.10 used to be so good with window placement?
[07:56] <MM2> bimberi: I know that, but it opens a dialog, I want it to save picture automagically
[07:56] <sonoud> Peps, pioneer 110D
[07:57] <el-stupido> can anyone help me? I am having trouble starting UT
[07:57] <sonoud> Peps, I think that is the latest model. i just bought it yesterday
[07:57] <bimberi> MM2: ah, sorry I don't know 'bout that :|
[07:58] <Sourceror> These programs are called kRSVP and gnomeRSVP and are for the two major desktops.
[07:58] <sonoud> Peps, thank you very much. can you tell me what firmware is?  btw., my computer will be forced shutdown within 2 minutes. i am in university lab.
[07:58] <Sourceror> GUI, whatever.
[07:59] <sonoud> Peps, 80 seconds.
[07:59] <Peps> sonoud: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=148380&page=2
[08:00] <sonoud> Peps, thank you very much. only 60 seconds left. i will shutdown my computer. thanks.
[08:00] <Peps> sonoud: I would try the burner on windows ...
[08:00] <topyli> Sourceror: see if they have packages at the home page. there are no ubuntu packages it seems
[08:02] <el-stupido> anyone plays Unreal Tournament?
[08:02] <Sourceror> It looks like they both may be terribly beta, so maybe that's why they're not synapted.
[08:03] <scribbles> can I get gnomersvp from apt-get?
[08:04] <NsOmNiAc> forgot .. what is the command to install the KDE desktop ?
[08:04] <nalioth> NsOmNiAc: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:04] <NsOmNiAc> sudo apt-get kde-desktop
[08:04] <NsOmNiAc> ahhh ok thanks
[08:04] <BooZee> hello. how could I use a free static host (with a client running on my comp) for dynamic ip ?
[08:04] <NsOmNiAc> why I have no idea
[08:05] <NsOmNiAc> but why not I got enough space
[08:07] <scribbles> so there's a RPM for download from a website, what should I do with it? I have it on my desktop right now
[08:08] <brownie17> can anyone tell me why the following website's instructions which are apparentlky for hoary do not look like my computer? "http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb"
[08:08] <Chiba> OK, anyone know what would cause these errors?
[08:08] <Chiba> [23:19]  <Chiba> init: ^MProcess '/sbin/debian-installer' (pid 12250) exited. Scheduling it for restart.
[08:08] <Chiba> [23:19]  <Chiba> and
[08:08] <Chiba> [23:20]  <Chiba> init: ^MStarting pid 13018, console /dev/vc/1: '/sbin/debian-installer'
[08:09] <Chiba> Was that considered a flood?
[08:09] <nalioth> brownie17: what is the matter with the wine in the repos
[08:09] <Peps> my problem is already looged as Bugzilla Bug 5246
[08:09] <nalioth> Chiba: please read the /topic and use a pastebin or #flood
[08:10] <brownie17> nalioth, too old apparently, i need a newer version to run warcraft 3. warcraft tells me i have windows 95, and it needs 98.
[08:10] <scribbles> do I have to convert RPMs to DEBs?
[08:10] <nalioth> brownie17: hmm, perhaps a change in the configs to make it report win98?
[08:10] <B_166-ER-X> wha..? the update-notifier tells me to download an update...but it get a 404   when trying to download..
[08:10] <nalioth> scribbles: no. rpms are trouble. what pkg are you after?
[08:11] <Chiba> nalioth: Sorry about that. I'm at my wits end here.
[08:11] <scribbles> GnomeRSVP
[08:11] <brownie17> nalioth, yes, but i apparently need the new "cvs" as well. i don't know. feel like helping me? i have a guide, but i don't really understand it. i won't take too much of your time
[08:11] <nalioth> Chiba: a pastebin is longer lasting, as you can see the text is almost scrolled off the screen
[08:11] <Chiba> OK lets try this again then.
[08:11] <nalioth> brownie17: two words: cedega cvs
[08:12] <Chiba> ANyone know what would cause these errors? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3333
[08:12] <rob^lt> !cedega
[08:12] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[08:12] <brownie17> nalioth, two words, no money
[08:12] <brownie17> nalioth, apparently wine is better for this particular program anyway
[08:12] <rob^lt> the link to the cedega cvs howto should be on that page
[08:13] <brownie17> nalioth, oh ok. so it is free? what dopes cvs stand for?
[08:13] <nalioth> brownie17: cedega cvs is free of monetary constraints
[08:13] <nalioth> brownie17: means its a advanced developement version
[08:13] <NsOmNiAc> ok so Kubuntu uses Exim and Ubuntu uses Postfix ?
[08:13] <scribbles> so what would you normally do i fyou come across a gnome pkg you want but its host site has it in RPM?
[08:14] <brownie17> nalioth, well apparnetly i need the the newest win cvs, will that website i showed yuo get me the cvs?
[08:14] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles 99% of the time there is a .deb for the pacakge
[08:14] <scribbles> how do I search
[08:14] <NsOmNiAc> Synaptic ?
[08:15] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles : sudo synaptic
[08:15] <brownie17> nalioth, how come when i follow as closely as i can to that guide, the new repo just doesn
[08:15] <GSnet|Jon> whats a .deb for?
[08:15] <brownie17> nalioth, appear in synaptic?
[08:15] <NsOmNiAc> GSnet|Jon it's a debian package
[08:16] <GSnet|Jon> ah, gotcha. does those install on ubuntu?
[08:16] <NsOmNiAc> yup
[08:16] <NsOmNiAc> Ubuntu was based on Debian <3
[08:16] <GSnet|Jon> oh, i knew it was based on debian, but i kept searching for ubuntu installers.
[08:16] <scribbles> did a search in synaptic and foudn nothing
[08:17] <GSnet|Jon> i feel stupid now, thanks nsomniac
[08:17] <NsOmNiAc> what are you looking for scribbles
[08:17] <NsOmNiAc> ya shouldn't 8-)
[08:17] <scribbles> gnomersvp
[08:17] <NsOmNiAc> and scribbles do you have the Universal repositories setup ?
[08:17] <strannik> after installing kubantu desktop i got a x server config window which told me that i should choose between kdm and gdm
[08:17] <GSnet|Jon> it just feels weird to think you have a handle on the computing world, and then realize all you know is the easy world of windows.
[08:18] <scribbles> yea
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> strannik what do you want to use more KDE or Gnome ?
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles one second
[08:18] <scribbles> thx
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> np
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> <3
[08:18] <strannik> NsOmNiAc kde
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> err <3 Ubuntu
[08:18] <nemik> same here
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> strannik then use KDM
[08:18] <nemik> use it as my server and it is so wonderful 3>
[08:18] <strannik> ok so its just what i thought and i choose kdm
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> yup yup
[08:18] <broken_ladder> crimsun what was that command to force unloading those modules for alsa again?
[08:18] <NsOmNiAc> ok scribbles be right back
[08:19] <strannik> so now when i reboot i will login into kde?
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> well it will give you a choice
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> there is an option for sessions
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> choose KDE
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> 8-)
[08:19] <strannik> great....because gnome for me is not quite a walk in the park..
[08:20] <strannik> i would say a walk in the lions den
[08:20] <mahangu> gnome rocks man
[08:20] <nemik> hell yea, KDE is too busy IMO
[08:20] <broken_ladder> busy?
[08:20] <broken_ladder> it's configurable, so you can make it less busy.
[08:20] <NsOmNiAc> strannik ... KDE is a walk in the park
[08:20] <NsOmNiAc> you want a lions den
[08:21] <broken_ladder> kde is vastly more configurable than gnome.  i just like gnome cause it looks so much better.
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> try Fluxbox or Windowmaker
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> or .. what is that other one ..I can't remember
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> I like E personally
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> Enlightenment VERY pretty and no icons
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> YAH
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> ok scribbles let me find a package for ya
[08:21] <broken_ladder> icons are nice on the panel, for launching.
[08:21] <brownie17> nalioth, when trying to install a package through apt-get, i am asked, "install packages without verification?" can you tell me why, and what will happen if i click no?
[08:21] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, E is a little hard to setup
[08:22] <strannik> NsOmNiAc i know that kde is a walk in the park..thats why i like it more....since i am using linux for about a month (started using suse 9.2)
[08:22] <broken_ladder> brownie17 because it can't verify them.
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> naahhh not really mahangu
[08:22] <mahangu> brownie17, it's from a repo it can't verify
[08:22] <brownie17> broken_ladder, is that bad?
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> ahhh strannik 8-)
[08:22] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, i tried it once, it was a bit clunky
[08:22] <broken_ladder> brownie17 it happens to me occasionally.  i dunno.
[08:22] <aftertaf> E
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> 17 or 16 ?
[08:22] <mahangu> brownie17, not generally
[08:22] <strannik> and yes, i have seen for myself that kde is a lot more configurable
[08:22] <mahangu> what did you update your sources.list with?
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> 17 is still in dev
[08:22] <aftertaf> 17
[08:22] <aftertaf> DR17
[08:22] <mahangu> i dunno
[08:22] <NsOmNiAc> yeahh that would be why
[08:22] <mahangu> i did apt-get
[08:23] <NsOmNiAc> DR17 is still not stable
[08:23] <aftertaf> mahangu:  forget e16 (apt).   E17 is via cvs only
[08:23] <mahangu> ok i go study
[08:23] <mahangu> bb
[08:23] <mahangu> *l
[08:23] <aftertaf> NsOmNiAc:  yeah buts its nice :)
[08:23] <strannik> NsOmNiAc suse is nice, but after yast just didn't want to load sometimes ....
[08:23] <mahangu> ah
[08:23] <NsOmNiAc> I used Suse YEARS ago ... it was easy to setup and I could lock it down so the techs didn't jack things up
[08:24] <NsOmNiAc> then I moved onto BSD
[08:24] <NsOmNiAc> then I came back to Ubuntu
[08:24] <mahangu> i wanna try bsd
[08:24] <mahangu> but scared
[08:24] <mahangu> hardware config etc
[08:24] <mahangu> on this t42
[08:24] <NsOmNiAc> <3 FreeBSD
[08:24] <strannik> NsOmNiAc i home that i can too say in some time that i used suse years ago =)
[08:24] <nalioth> brownie17: all it means is the gpg key didnt match
[08:24] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, will it be ok with my hardware?
[08:24] <nalioth> brownie17: the programs are still gonna work
[08:24] <NsOmNiAc> you should have no problem
[08:24] <strannik> ok, kde has just finished installation...will a logout do or should i reboot?
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> BSD works on my archs than any other distro of *NIX
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> just logout
[08:25] <Sh|fty> BSD :o
[08:25] <nalioth> strannik: if you want to use a particular kde program, look at your menu
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> wait
[08:25] <brownie17> strannik, logout will be fine
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> your wanting the GUI though right
[08:25] <nalioth> strannik: if you want to immerse yourself in kde, logout and choose 'kde desktop' from the sessions menu
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> yup yup
[08:25] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, what do you reccomend
[08:25] <mahangu> free, open
[08:26] <mahangu> which flavour
[08:26] <Sh|fty> net
[08:26] <mahangu> not really
[08:26] <mahangu> GUI
[08:26] <strannik> thanks everybody....you are all great
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> ohhh yeahh and scribbles here ya go sir/maam http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=63741
[08:26] <mahangu> i have ubuntu for that
[08:26] <strannik> quit
[08:26] <Sh|fty> oh :(
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> on Sparc machines I use NetBSD
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> on my X86 machines I use FreeBSD
[08:26] <Sh|fty> net net net net :D
[08:26] <mahangu> hmm
[08:26] <mahangu> ok so i guess free is good
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> but we are in Ubuntu so I'm changing the subject
[08:26] <mahangu> hey Madpilot
[08:26] <arpan> hi, any breezy users here?
[08:26] <mahangu> yah sure
[08:26] <NsOmNiAc> hehe
[08:26] <mahangu> NsOmNiAc, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:26] <scribbles> what do I do with the deb file?
[08:26] <broken_ladder> can someone help me.  i can use my spdif connection with aplay -D iec958 , but not with alsa.
[08:26] <ofpc> Hello to all
[08:26] <arpan> i am a little lost by the breezy
[08:27] <arpan> badger
[08:27] <Sh|fty> Linux tab 2.6.12-1-386 #1 Tue Sep 27 12:41:08 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:27] <broken_ladder> breezy is mucking up my life.
[08:27] <el-stupido> Couldn't run Unreal Tournament (ut-bin). Is UT_DATA_PATH set? <-- what does this error mean?
[08:27] <Sh|fty> iam no ubuntu user :)
[08:27] <brownie17> what is freeBSD
[08:27] <broken_ladder> el-stupido it obviously refers to some settings file for urt
[08:27] <broken_ladder> broken_ladder an operating system.
[08:27] <ofpc> Exist in Ubuntu a software like cool edit, for example to mix music?
[08:27] <arpan> can anyone give me his working sources.list?
[08:27] <broken_ladder> broken_ladder it is a posix compliant unix-like operating system similar in concept to linux.
[08:27] <arpan> i can't install most of the apps
[08:27] <broken_ladder> brownie17 i meant you.
[08:28] <el-stupido> broken_ladder: How can I fix it?
[08:28] <NsOmNiAc> unix like ??
[08:28] <NsOmNiAc> it IS UNIX
[08:28] <NsOmNiAc> not unix like
[08:28] <ofpc> Exist in Ubuntu a software to mix music like cool edit, for example?
[08:28] <Phr0zenKore> err..
[08:28] <brownie17> broken_ladder, ok
[08:28] <Phr0zenKore> how do i play encoded dvd's? it crashes, but i don't know if regionset is such a good idea//
[08:28] <Phr0zenKore> ...
[08:28] <broken_ladder> el-stupido i have never used it, so i would just suggest you look for some documentian that talks about urt settings files, and look for a file with the term UT_DATA_PATH in it.
[08:28] <broken_ladder> ofpc audacity.
[08:28] <broken_ladder> ofpc ardour
[08:29] <el-stupido> okay
[08:29] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles did you get that ?
[08:29] <scribbles> NsOmNiAc, do I just OPEN from firefox?
[08:29] <broken_ladder> ofpc jammin
[08:29] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles save as
[08:29] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles save in your home directory
[08:29] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore you might just try a gui program like totem
[08:29] <Phr0zenKore> broken_ladder: which i have.
[08:29] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles : then when downloaded .. sudo dpkg -i packagename
[08:29] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore gmplayer -zoom is also a good choice.
[08:29] <ofpc> broken_ladder: audacity or Jamin?? OK what Is good?
[08:29] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore hmm..i'm no expert so i can't think of what else you could try.
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> no guys, i mean it crashes when i want to play the dvd
[08:30] <broken_ladder> ofpc i think audacity is great, but jamin is supposedly much more powerful.
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> and i read the guide
[08:30] <broken_ladder> never used it.
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> so i enabled encrypted
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> and then..... it crashed upon me
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> so i installed regionset
[08:30] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore okay, if you run thoggen with a dvd in the drive, does it work?
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> but i don't know how to control that beast
[08:30] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore if thoggen doesn't work it could be a hardware issue.
[08:30] <Phr0zenKore> thoggen?
[08:31] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore it's a very simple dvd ripper.  it encodes to the superior ogg theora format.
[08:31] <ofpc> broken_ladder.. Thanks.. How can i install that? where I can find? my english is not very good sorry..
[08:31] <Phr0zenKore> ahh..
[08:31] <Phr0zenKore> wait, i didn't have gstreamer codec installed
[08:31] <broken_ladder> ofpc apt-get install audacity jamin, etc
[08:31] <broken_ladder> sudo apt-get install jamin
[08:31] <broken_ladder>  < -- ofpc
[08:31] <Phr0zenKore> still freezes upon me
[08:31] <broken_ladder> no way!
[08:32] <broken_ladder> thoggen freezes.
[08:32] <broken_ladder> ?
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> no
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> totem freezes
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> thoggen does very well
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> :)
[08:32] <broken_ladder> so obviously it's not a hardware problem.
[08:32] <ofpc> broken_ladder: Ok.. Thanks I will try
[08:32] <broken_ladder> i mean your drive works fine and apparently any driver issues are okay.
[08:32] <Phr0zenKore> yea, problem with codecs.
[08:32] <brownie17> nalioth, what is the difference between winex and wine? is there one? which is better? if a a guide says i need wineX is it imparitive?
[08:33] <broken_ladder> hmmm.. Phr0zenKore have you installed restricted formats?
[08:33] <scribbles> thx NsOmNiAc !
[08:33] <Phr0zenKore> broken_ladder: yup
[08:33] <broken_ladder> Phr0zenKore man..  tough one.  you've done everything i can think of.
[08:33] <ofpc> broken_ladder: I find in Symaptic that.. Thanks very much
[08:33] <brownie17> nalioth, i need to make a "fake windows directory" where can i do this?
[08:33] <el-stupido> broken_ladder: How do i do a search for that file?
[08:34] <Phr0zenKore> but i forgot this one command: gst-register-0.8
[08:34] <Ekushey> i just installed ubuntu... why isn't samba installed with it?
[08:34] <Phr0zenKore> and it still freezes upon me
[08:34] <Phr0zenKore> :(
[08:34] <scribbles> get it from the repos
[08:34] <carl> How do I host a domain name on my computer?
[08:34] <Ekushey> i need to run samba
[08:34] <brownie17> nalioth, do you know wherei can get a guide on how to do this?
[08:34] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: sudo apt-get install samba
[08:35] <lasindi[lappy] > Hello everyone, how do I get colored text when I do "ls" in a terminal on Ubuntu?
[08:35] <carl> Anyone know how I can go about hosting domain names on my Ubuntu server using Apache?
[08:35] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: also http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver
[08:35] <mwe> lasindi[lappy] : Isn't it disabled by default?
[08:35] <propagandhi> lasindi[lappy] : have u got a box of coloured pens or pencils and some whiteout?
[08:36] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: thanks a lot! :)
[08:36] <lasindi[lappy] > mwe, it looks like it.
[08:36] <Sh|fty> mine is coloured :s
[08:36] <Sh|fty> and i didnt change anything :s
[08:36] <carl> Do I have to run a DNS Server to host a domain name on my computer?
[08:36] <bob2> carl: install apache2. copy /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to foo.com, edit it and 'sudo a2ensite foo.com'
[08:36] <bob2> carl: no
[08:36] <Madpilot> My "ls" text is coloured too - blue for directories, white for files; somethign is green too, can't remember what
[08:36] <bob2> executables
[08:37] <Sh|fty> try ls -l
[08:37] <bob2> no
[08:37] <bob2> ls -l --coor=auto
[08:37] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: cool, it's installed now! i'll be back if i face problems running it! thanks again!
[08:37] <brownie17> can anyone tell me how to make a "fake windows directory" for wine?
[08:37] <Sh|fty> ls -l --color=auto
[08:37] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: :)
[08:37] <Sh|fty> color needs to be spelt right :p
[08:38] <lasindi[lappy] > bob2, Sh|fty, with the --color=auto option it works.
[08:38] <scribbles> NsOmNiAc, now when I go to Applications -> Other -> GnomeRSVP it starts and says Starting GnomeRSVP in the taskbar then the window closes and nothing happens
[08:38] <Sh|fty> brownie17: it should auto be made
[08:38] <lasindi[lappy] > So how do I get it to do that without the option?
[08:38] <mwe> lasindi[lappy] : you need alias ls='ls --color=auto' in ~/.bashrc
[08:38] <carl> so I have to copy the file default and rename it to foo.com?
[08:38] <lasindi[lappy] > mwe, ok thanks.
[08:38] <brownie17> Sh|fty, i uninstalled, and reinstalled with a new cvs, but now i need to re-create it. i know it sohlud be there, but that's beside the point. it isn't, and i need it. you know how?
[08:38] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: i just shared a directory, now i want to share my printer as well... how do i do it?
[08:39] <lasindi[lappy] > mwe, do I also need to put that in ~/.bash_profile?
[08:39] <bob2> carl: yes
[08:39] <mwe> lasindi[lappy] : no
[08:39] <carl> how do I point the domain name to my server?
[08:39] <nalioth> brownie17: have you been here? http://www.winehq.com/site/howto
[08:39] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: what would be the path? /dev/something?
[08:39] <lasindi[lappy] > ok
[08:39] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: sorry cant help you there :(
[08:39] <brownie17> nalioth, nope, thankyou
[08:39] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: ok lemme try
[08:40] <mwe> lasindi[lappy] : unless you changed it, ~/.bashrc is sourced from ~/.bash_profile
[08:40] <bob2> carl: you get the dns admin to do it for you
[08:40] <Sh|fty> brownie17: i dont use wine so idont know its setup, try googling
[08:40] <carl> I can rename the dns servers myself
[08:40] <Sh|fty> googleing*
[08:40] <carl> I just need to know how to point it to my server
[08:40] <lasindi[lappy] > mwe, ah
[08:40] <bob2> carl: that makes no sense at all
[08:40] <bob2> carl: talk to whoever is in charge of dns for that domain
[08:40] <bob2> carl: if it's you, then you need to go learn how dns works
[08:40] <bob2> carl: then you'd add an A record for www.blah.com pointing at your webserver
[08:40] <carl> can I use my local ISPs dns?
[08:41] <bob2> carl: as above
[08:41] <Ekushey> Sh|fty: can u pls tell me where can i find my printer? where does it go after installing?
[08:41] <Sh|fty> carl: http://www.howstuffworks.com/dns.htm
[08:41] <Sh|fty> Ekushey: i dont own a printer and have never used one on linux so sorry cant help you there
[08:41] <Sh|fty> i will look into it
[08:43] <arpan> has anyone managed to get skype working on breezy badger?
[08:43] <bob2> get the static tarball
[08:43] <strannik> ok. loaded in kde, could somebody please point me in the direction where i can set the driver for the monitor
[08:43] <bob2> there's no such thing as a monitor driver
[08:43] <bob2> just tell us what your actual goal is
[08:43] <el-stupido> anyone plays UT on linux?
[08:43] <Bilskinir> el-stupido: do you?
[08:43] <NsOmNiAc> el-stupido I have
[08:43] <brownie17> nalioth, i am getting an error, can i show you in #flood?
[08:44] <NsOmNiAc> not under Ubuntu though
[08:44] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc: I am running into trouble mate.. i have installed the game using the linux installer but it gives me an error
[08:44] <scribbles> NsOmNiAc, its in my menu system now, but when i run it it says Loading GnomeRSVP then disappears
[08:44] <NsOmNiAc> scribbles : what exactly does it do .. I'm not familiar with it
[08:44] <NsOmNiAc> ??
[08:45] <Knorrie> Ekushey: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html
[08:45] <NsOmNiAc> el-stupido what error ?
[08:45] <strannik> ok, the thing is that currently, i have 640x480 at 60 herts and i can't change it
[08:45] <NsOmNiAc> BBIAB
[08:45] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc: i'l paste it just a sec
[08:45] <bob2> strannik: ?
[08:46] <el-stupido> grr the link in the toppic doesnt work?
[08:46] <Ekushey> thanks Knorrie
[08:46] <Sourceror> How do I install a .rpm file?
[08:46] <strannik> bob2, the current resolution that i am working with is 640x480 and i can't change it
[08:46] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc: using pastebin
[08:46] <bob2> el-stupido: there are 6 urls in the topic
[08:46] <bob2> Sourceror: of what?
[08:46] <strannik> it just will not let me, that is the only choise i have
[08:46] <brownie17> anyone familiar with setting up wine to have a "fake windows directory"? i am haveing trouble, keep getting the following error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3334
[08:46] <bob2> strannik: that has nothing to do with monitor drivers
[08:46] <Robi> rpm -Uvh .rpm
[08:47] <bob2> strannik: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:47] <bob2> Robi: no, that won't do anything useful
[08:47] <Knorrie> Ekushey: i did a google search on 'share linux printer' ;)
[08:47] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc:  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/398425
[08:47] <NsOmNiAc> el-stupido link
[08:47] <strannik> bob2 sorry if that was a stupid question.. =)
[08:47] <NsOmNiAc> k
[08:47] <Sourceror> It's a program called GnomeRSVP, bob2.  I installed it from a .tgz file, but it won't run, so I'm looking for ways to make it work.
[08:47] <NsOmNiAc> one second
[08:47] <el-stupido> ok
[08:47] <Robi> bob2, ya alien
[08:48] <bob2> Sourceror: "won't run" is not a very complete description of the problem
[08:48] <scribbles> Sourceror: you can just download the deb to your home dir, then sudo dpkg -i file
[08:48] <Robi> ZzZz
[08:48] <lightstar> anyone has experience with ubuntu Xorg crashing after a few hours of usage?
[08:49] <Xyc0> Hello everyone
[08:49] <el-stupido> any idea NsOmNiAc ?
[08:49] <Ekushey> Knorrie: my printer is connected to the ubuntu machine, and i want to print from the windows machines... this faq shows how to print to a windows printer :(
[08:50] <NsOmNiAc> hmmm el-stupido dirname --help
[08:50] <brownie17>  ever single time i try to run wine, i get the following error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3334 someone please help me
[08:50] <Xyc0> Im gonna upgrade my laptop memory, what would work better, two 512 mb ram or one 1 gig and 1 512 mb
[08:50] <Sourceror> I don't see the .deb version of it, scribbles :/
[08:50] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc:  ok
[08:50] <Knorrie> Ekushey: i quote from the introduction: "..and how to share Linux printers with Windows PCs"
[08:51] <Xyc0> brownie17: In terminal cd to the exact directory of the program
[08:51] <brownie17> Xyc0, i did that
[08:51] <brownie17> Xyc0, that is not the problem
[08:51] <Sourceror> I'm trying to hack a way for this silly little program to run.  I have it installed, but when it's run I get this"Can't locate Gtk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/gnomersvp.plx line 10."
[08:51] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc:  and?
[08:51] <Sourceror> Oh jeez sorry 4 flood.
[08:52] <bob2> Sourceror: that's pretty clear.
[08:52] <bob2> Sourceror: use packages.ubunut.com to find out which package contains Gtk.pm, and install it using synaptic
[08:52] <bob2> Xyc0: the latter gives you 1.5GB, the former 1GB...
[08:52] <Xyc0> brownie17: did you exicute wine with a full address?
[08:53] <Xyc0> bob2: I am going for speed, not size
[08:53] <el-stupido> NsOmNiAc: you there?
[08:53] <bob2> Xyc0: so, you did the calculations and found whatever tiny speed difference there is is greater than the massive speed up you get from 512MG more disk cache?
[08:54] <Sourceror> 'Error: keyword not valid or missing' grr
[08:54] <bob2> Sourceror: if you're going to show us errors like that, you at least need to say what program produced them
[08:54] <el-stupido> hmm
[08:55] <el-stupido> anyone else wants to help me out?
[08:55] <Danny|> how can i change the permissions of a folder that root owns so i can write to it as well?
[08:55] <Amaranth> Danny|: sudo
[08:55] <bob2> Danny|: what folder?
[08:55] <Danny|> nomed, sudo wont do..
[08:55] <Sourceror> Well, it was the search thinger for the website you gave me, bob2, but I figured out that it didn't like search strings with two tokens.
[08:55] <Knorrie> Sourceror: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=Gtk.pm&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[08:55] <Madpilot> Danny|: you don't need to change permissions, just use sudo
[08:55] <Sourceror> Thank you, by the way.
[08:55] <Danny|> -.-
[08:55] <Xyc0> bob2: That is what I am trying to decide, fork up the bucks for a gig more or get a dual channel 512
[08:55] <brownie17> Xyc0, what do you mean by that? i type cd /media/cdrom0; sudo wine install.EXE
[08:55] <Danny|> i don't want to use sudo cough, it's just a general question
[08:55] <bob2> Sourceror: ?
[08:56] <brownie17> who is familiar wiht wine? i have config problems
[08:56] <bob2> Sourceror: you're searching for the filename Gtk.pm.  it has no spaces.
[08:56] <bob2> Danny|: it depends on what directory you're talking about
[08:56] <bob2> brownie17: I don't think people have magically appeared since the last time you asked
[08:56] <Danny|> well any..? say i did sudo mkdir foo.. how would i allow myself to write to it as well
[08:56] <bob2> brownie17: google really knew nothing?
[08:56] <Sourceror> I get confused easily, and terribl
[08:56] <Xyc0> brownie17: try wine /media/cdrom0/install.EXE
[08:57] <bob2> Danny|: you'd change the owner to yourself
[08:57] <Sourceror> y :/
[08:57] <Danny|> bob2, and how? =)
[08:57] <bob2> Danny|: sudo chown yourusername foo
[08:57] <Danny|> cheers
[08:57] <bob2> brownie17: the error is saying that you don't have your fake_windows setup
[08:57] <brownie17> Xyc0, i seriously doubt that is the problem, it is not a filename problem
[08:57] <brownie17> bob2, yes, how do i set it up
[08:58] <bob2> brownie17: google had no idea?
[08:58] <bob2> I find that hard to believe
[08:58] <Xyc0> brownie17: ok you are the pro, you know what you are doing
[08:58] <bob2> brownie17: also, that's a warning, not an error
[08:58] <brownie17> Xyc0, i am no pro
[08:59] <Ekushey> what's the root password???
[08:59] <Danny|> whats the command to delete a folder/file via command line?
[08:59] <dazvid> !tell Ekushey about sudo
[08:59] <Madpilot> Danny|: rm
[08:59] <majkel> hey guys, anyoneone can tell me what is the best tool to burn DVD iso from shell ?
[08:59] <Danny|> ty
[08:59] <brownie17> bob2, well it still doesn't run programs when it appears
[08:59] <bob2> Ekushey: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:59] <Ekushey> okies
[08:59] <bob2> brownie17: awesome; why do you think it is related?
[08:59] <bob2> brownie17: also, the first 3 hits on google for that error contain potential solutions
[08:59] <fdelacruz> can I install ubuntu on my SATA
[08:59] <Madpilot> Danny|: basic command line stuff here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[08:59] <bob2> majkel: growisofs, apparently
[08:59] <bob2> fdelacruz: of course
[09:00] <Amaranth> night folks
[09:00] <majkel> yeah but it gives me crap...
[09:00] <bob2> "crap" doesn't sound like a useful description of the problem
[09:00] <fdelacruz> k bob2
[09:00] <majkel> do i realluy need a scsi emulation on 2.6 kernel to make everything in burning work smoothly ?
[09:00] <fdelacruz> I will try again
[09:00] <crimsun> majkel: no
[09:01] <bob2> majkel: no
[09:01] <majkel> growisofs gives me some errors then quit
[09:01] <majkel> it starts to warm up the vd then spit it out from the drive
[09:01] <bob2> "some erros" is also not a useful description of the problem
[09:01] <majkel> sorry
[09:01] <bob2> if you want help, you need to show us the entire error
[09:01] <bob2> (not in here)
[09:02] <majkel> ok, will try that now and giv you exact output from the shell, ok? :D
[09:02] <frisbeboy> helo people, how much ram do you guys have for ubuntu? i have 256 i think and  i think its not enough
[09:03] <el-stupido> anyone plays UT on linux?
[09:03] <bob2> 256MB for gnome is not a lot of fun
[09:03] <bob2> el-stupido: it's so much less annoying if you just ask your question
[09:03] <frisbeboy> yeaa i run gnome
[09:03] <Knorrie> frisbeboy: I have 512 with lots of programs running in gnome, and it works ok
[09:03] <frisbeboy> i c thanx peoples
[09:03] <mwe> el-stupido: I used to, a year ago or so.
[09:04] <bob2> fdelacruz: perhaps try xfce4 or something
[09:04] <nnonix> UT is dead
[09:04] <frisbeboy> nnonix: in the linux env.?
[09:04] <el-stupido> mwe: could you help me a bit?
[09:04] <dazvid> el-stupido, You mean the original UT or UT2k4 ?
[09:05] <dazvid> if the latter, then yes
[09:05] <mwe> el-stupido: I doubt I'll be able to remember anything, but shoot anyway
[09:05] <el-stupido> mwe: Original UT
[09:05] <brownie17> bob2, what does the ~ mean in relation to ~/.wine/c_drive. i need to find where this directory is
[09:05] <dazvid> ~ is your home
[09:06] <e-sin> is there any real benefit to installing the final release of breezy if i have a fully updated breezy RC install?
[09:06] <bob2> brownie17: ~/ = home directory...
[09:06] <brownie17> bob2
[09:06] <Cryptid> hi i have a BIG PORBLEM from where i come there is alot of powercut and some times my UPS dosent work so my coputer restarts frequently and now i think i have bad sectors on my Hard drive so is there a program like ScanDisk which i can use and fix the Bad sectors????
[09:06] <brownie17> bob2, thankyou
[09:06] <bob2> e-sin: did yo uread the release notes?
[09:06] <bob2> Cryptid: no
[09:06] <bob2> Cryptid: fsck may be able to repeair it if it's ext3 or xfs
[09:06] <el-stupido> mwe: it giving me an error you can see what happens at  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/398425
[09:07] <Cryptid> bob2, yes it is ext3 so can i scan my disk
[09:07] <bob2> Cryptid: please read the entirity of that sentence
[09:07] <bob2> Cryptid: also, you're just going to keep losign data until your power is fixed
[09:08] <Cryptid> bob2, ya ok thanx if i have ne problem i will ask u
[09:08] <el-stupido> mwe: Any views?
[09:08] <Cryptid> bob2, loosing data that means every time my computer restarts i will loose data
[09:08] <bob2> no, you'll ask the channel
[09:08] <majkel> growisofs --use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd=/home/pitt/BitTornado-CVS/Fadev-frcy.iso
[09:08] <majkel> :-( "/dev/hdd=/home/pitt/BitTornado-CVS/Fadev-frcy.iso"
[09:08] <majkel> sorry
[09:08] <bob2> I can't imagine that syntax is correct
[09:09] <bob2> Cryptid: if you have shit power and no working UPS, yes you will lose data
[09:09] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone succeded in running azureus in breezy yet?
[09:09] <dazvid> Fanskapet, yup
[09:09] <bob2> lots of people
[09:09] <bob2> it's simple
[09:09] <bob2> install jre
[09:09] <Cryptid> bob2, i have a UPS but sometimes it malfunctions and restarts (this happens only 20% of the time i have a power cut)
[09:09] <mwe> el-stupido: hmm. I don't know, sorry
[09:09] <majkel> ok, can you check is that correct ?
[09:09] <bob2> unpack azurues
[09:09] <bob2> run
[09:09] <majkel> growisofs --use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdd=/home/pitt/DVD.iso
[09:09] <Fanskapet> bob2: that won't work
[09:10] <el-stupido> mwe: ok thanx
[09:10] <Fanskapet> bob2: you're running an upgraded hoary? or a fresh new install?
[09:10] <budluva> Fanskapet install jre
[09:10] <bob2> Fanskapet: I hallucinated doing just that?
[09:10] <budluva> Fanskapet then install azurues
[09:10] <bob2> Fanskapet: upgraded
[09:10] <Fanskapet> i see
[09:10] <brownie17> bob2, for song reason i do not have a ~/.wine/config file. should it be automatically there? is the a script i can run to create one?
[09:10] <bob2> Fanskapet: are yo ureally saying that Sun's JRE does not run on breezy at all?
[09:10] <MM2> Could anyone recommend another screencapture utility than ubuntus default?
[09:10] <Fanskapet> bob2: i386 kernel or K7 ?
[09:10] <bob2> MM2: import from imagemagick
[09:10] <bob2> Fanskapet: the kernel has no bearing on this at all
[09:10] <bob2> modulo serious java bugs
[09:10] <budluva> Fanskapet http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75272&highlight=breezy+azureus
[09:10] <Fanskapet> it could.. i have spoken to one of the azureus developers.
[09:11] <mwe> el-stupido: try cd'ing into the System dir of where UT is installed
[09:11] <bob2> Fanskapet: that seems very unlikely
[09:11] <budluva> Fanskapet HOWTO installing azureus in breezy
[09:11] <bob2> Fanskapet: I'd assume user error
[09:11] <Fanskapet> i know how to install azureus :)
[09:11] <Fanskapet> that's not the problem :)
[09:11] <Peps> jre does not work in breezy????
[09:11] <bob2> Peps: it works fine
[09:11] <bob2> brownie17: you didn't read any of the hits on google?
[09:11] <Peps> sigh
[09:11] <dazvid> Fanskapet, I was using it before.
[09:11] <Fanskapet> I get Tracker Status: Connection Error (ZipException:gzip header corrupted)..
[09:11] <el-stupido> mwe: what should I do?
[09:11] <Fanskapet> when trying to download something.
[09:12] <Cryptid> bob2, i am getting this error should i continue witht he scan WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.
[09:12] <mwe> el-stupido: where is UT installed?
[09:12] <bob2> Fanskapet: why would you think that has aything to do with the kernel?
[09:12] <bob2> Cryptid: uh, duh
[09:12] <majkel> azureus is not fun at all, try dhell client, like bittornado, works SMOOOthly
[09:12] <bob2> Cryptid: modifying the filesystem while it's mounted is obviously going to destroy it
[09:12] <bob2> Cryptid: use a live cd
[09:12] <Fanskapet> broken gzip..
[09:12] <el-stupido> ./usr/local/games
[09:12] <Fanskapet> or something.
[09:12] <Peps> if I upgrade to breezy and then decide to downgrade - how diffecult is that?
[09:12] <el-stupido> mwe: ./usr/local/games
[09:12] <bob2> Fanskapet: do you really think the kernel has anything to do with that?
[09:12] <bob2> Peps: impossible
[09:12] <brownie17> bob2, yes i did. they are very unhelpful, no-one seems to have solved the problem
[09:13] <Peps> bob2, execpt a complete re-install
[09:13] <dazvid> ^
[09:13] <mwe> el-stupido: /usr/local/games/ut ?
[09:14] <el-stupido> mwe: yeah
[09:15] <mwe> el-stupido: try cd /usr/local/games/ut; export UT_DATA_DIR=/usr/local/games/ut/System, then run the game from there
[09:15] <el-stupido> ok
[09:15] <mwe> el-stupido: what is the executeable's name?
[09:15] <Ekushey> i installed samba and shared a my home dir, but i can't view this dir nor computer from my windows machines...
[09:15] <el-stupido> ut
[09:15] <el-stupido> mwe:  ut
[09:15] <Cryptid> bob2, i have never done this before in linux so i dont know , on windows its a lot diffrent u can scandisk and mark badsectors while running windows itself ne ways i will do it now
[09:16] <el-stupido> mwe:  same error
[09:17] <brownie17> bob2, this all happened because i installed a new version of wine, should i try reinstalling or something?
[09:17] <mwe> el-stupido: see this: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfdownloads/viewcat.php?list=U
[09:17] <el-stupido> k
[09:18] <Xyc0> I usually stick with Cedega
[09:18] <bob2> brownie17: as one of those pages says, running "wine" generates ~/.wine
[09:19] <Xyc0> They may not update all the time, but it works
[09:19] <el-stupido> mwe: should I download Unreal Gold?
[09:20] <carl> what do I set the virtual host to for foo.com?
[09:20] <carl> Hola xota
[09:20] <Fanskapet> bob2: so this is not azureus problem.. maybe java but i doubt it since i've tried both java 1.5 and 1.4
[09:20] <carl> Como Estas?
[09:20] <bob2> Cryptid: what does "set the virtual host to" mean?
[09:20] <bob2> carl: what does "set the virtual host to" mean?
[09:20] <Fanskapet> but my brother has got it working.. but he made a dist upgrade from hoary aswell
[09:21] <Cryptid> bob2, if i use a live disk and scan my disk using fsck -pv will i loose ne data or will it only fix the bad sectors
[09:21] <carl> in the file foo.com
[09:21] <bob2> Fanskapet: it seems extremely unlikely it's an ubuntu problem
[09:21] <carl> there is something called NameVirtualHost *
[09:21] <xota> carl, sleepy ;)
[09:21] <bob2> carl: er, you obviously rename it to whatever the virtlahost is called
[09:21] <carl> <VirtualHost *>
[09:21] <bob2> carl: change ServerName
[09:21] <brownie17> bob2, i am stumped, it used to work fine. it's really frustrating
[09:21] <Sionide> what software does ubotu run?
[09:21] <mwe> el-stupido: I don't know. I'd google for it. maybe add export UT_DATA_PATH=/usr/local/games/ut/System at the beginning of the executeable as suggested? I'd google for it
[09:21] <bob2> Sionide: blootbot.sf.net
[09:22] <bob2> carl: this is about the time you read the virtual host documentation on http://httpd..apache.org/, too
[09:22] <Sionide> thanks
[09:22] <Sionide> and what platform is it? eggy?
[09:22] <bob2> Sionide: no
[09:22] <Fanskapet> bob2: well it worked on hoary.. with same java version and same azureus version
[09:22] <el-stupido> mwe: ok thanx
[09:24] <majkel> anyone here can tell what rules should i add to get apt-get working ?
[09:24] <majkel> it uses port 80
[09:24] <majkel> should i then set on input --sport 80 then on output --dport 80  ?
[09:24] <el-stupido> mwe: problem isnt with the installer.. the installer has finished installing the game correctly.. its just the execution bit
[09:24] <el-stupido> :/
[09:25] <bob2> majkel: why are you filtering that at all?
[09:26] <majkel> i have to modify
[09:26] <majkel> a firewall that i didn`t made
[09:26] <majkel> :(
[09:27] <el-stupido> ok... how do i extract from tar?
[09:27] <Danny|> bah, why is gnome running so... sluggish
[09:27] <Danny|> kde is running like 3 times faster than gnome on both ubuntu(kubuntu) and suse :|
[09:27] <majkel> so i have to add rules with -A to the end that unlocks apt-get
[09:27] <bob2> this is a server?
[09:27] <majkel> yeah
[09:27] <brownie17>  ever single time i try to run wine, i get the following error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3334 someone please help me
[09:27] <guruff> hey
[09:27] <dazvid> el-stupido, tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[09:28] <bob2> brownie17: dude
[09:28] <bob2> brownie17: be quiet
[09:28] <el-stupido> thanx
[09:28] <bob2> brownie17: mv ~/.wine ~/.wine.old ; wine
[09:29] <dazvid> el-stupido, to get the list of options on tar, use tar --help
[09:30] <guillem101> wow, be careful with gnome-themes-extra and breezy: some svg icons are missing! for instance gnome-volume-control-applet one, so it seems that it is not there!
[09:30] <brownie17> bob2, you know, i just tried that before you said it and it worked fine. sorry for repeating, i for annoyed, you are a living legend
[09:30] <guillem101> happens with nuvola icons and also with wasp ones (beos-like)
[09:31] <LootBeer> is winrar a linux aechiver?
[09:31] <dazvid> WINrar
[09:31] <dazvid> in other words.. no
[09:31] <guillem101> LootBeer, you have rar / unrar packages at multiverse
[09:32] <majkel> dudes, anybody can help me with that apt-get problem ???
[09:32] <bob2> majkel: stop it
[09:32] <majkel> ok, sorry
[09:32] <guillem101> LootBeer, if you install them, archive-manager will work with rar files.
[09:32] <bob2> majkel: if your question is "someone setup a broken firewall on this machine, and I need to allow port 80 out, how do I do that?", then say so
[09:32] <guillem101> at least it did at hoary....
[09:32] <LootBeer> guillem101> well... im not sure
[09:32] <bob2> questions with no detail and 3 question marks are just a waste of everyone's time
[09:33] <jhank> hi
[09:33] <dazvid> Hi
[09:34] <majkel> ok, i know, sorry
[09:34] <jhank> the source www1.mplayerhq.de is obviously broken... this causes an error in apt upgrade of w32 codecs.. any ideas how to fix that?
[09:34] <bob2> jhank: don't use it
[09:35] <jhank> you mean just copy the files to /usr/lib/win32
[09:35] <majkel> so this is my question: i need to create firewall ruleset to get apt-get working, it`s setup to download packages via http, can anyone do that ?
[09:35] <majkel> :D
[09:35] <bob2> no
[09:35] <bob2> majkel: was my suggestion correct or not?
[09:36] <guillem101> majkel, using firestarter is a nice way to setup firewall rules for noobs like me.
[09:36] <el-stupido> How do i find out the installation path for Konqueror?
[09:36] <bob2> if what you just asked is your question, then just disable the bloody firewall entirely
[09:36] <bob2> since it's clearly of no use
[09:36] <guillem101> el-stupido, apt-get install konqueror
[09:36] <majkel> indeed it was
[09:36] <bob2> el-stupido: and you're trying to do...?
[09:37] <el-stupido> install flash player
[09:37] <el-stupido> and its asking me for the installation path for my browser which is Konqueror
[09:37] <bob2> right, so ignore whatever documentation you're reading
[09:37] <el-stupido> oh
[09:37] <majkel> bob2> eeeeasy...
[09:38] <el-stupido> bob2: Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): <---
[09:38] <FANN> Hi... good night ! (at least here, argentine)
[09:38] <el-stupido> bob2: this is mid installation
[09:39] <bob2> el-stupido: that's fine
[09:39] <el-stupido> bob2: what do I do then?
[09:39] <bob2> say whatever
[09:39] <bob2> since it doesn't matter
[09:39] <el-stupido> bob2: ??
[09:40] <bob2> dude
[09:40] <bob2> 17:39:45           bob2 | since it doesn't matter
[09:40] <bob2> just install it
[09:40] <bob2> it doesn't matter where the binary crap goes
[09:40] <el-stupido> aaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[09:40] <e-sin> can i back up my gnome panel layout?
[09:41] <bob2> el-stupido: once it's installed, symlink it into /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/ orwherever konquerror wants it these days
[09:41] <el-stupido> bob2: WARNING: /home/shantanu/install_flash_player_7_linux/whatever is not a directory <--- lol
[09:41] <bob2> yay proprietary junk
[09:41] <spockboy> hi there. i've put a second NIC into my machine running ubuntu, without any gui. how can i get ubuntu to recognise the new interface, from the console?
[09:42] <sonoud> Peps, hi, are you still there?
[09:42] <el-stupido> bob2: so now what?
[09:42] <Peps> sonoud: sort of
[09:42] <sonoud> Peps, do you still remember me? about DVD burner problem.
[09:42] <guillem101> spockboy, can you see the NIC at "ifconfig -a" ?
[09:42] <Peps> sonoud: yes
[09:43] <bob2> el-stupido: now you use that magically "google" thing I've heard so much about to find where konqeuror expects the plugin to be
[09:43] <bob2> spockboy: reboot with it plugged in
[09:43] <bob2> spockboy: then it's recognised
[09:43] <el-stupido> rofl
[09:43] <el-stupido> ok
[09:43] <Danny|> anyone has any tips for making gnome faster? it's running so slow here :(
[09:43] <bob2> spockboy: if you want to configure it, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:43] <bob2> Danny|: more ram, or failing that, not using it
[09:43] <Danny|> I've got 1gb..
[09:43] <sonoud> Peps, you asked me to update my firmware? will that help? I search on goolge. I found out the new version of firmware in official website. that is .exe program. Can I run it in windows? then update firmware in windows.
[09:43] <jhank> has anyone use lufs before?
[09:43] <guillem101> Danny|, which CPU?
[09:44] <spockboy> bob2: ahh thanks. turns out it has come up as "eth2" instead of "eth1". cheers
[09:44] <Danny|> AMD Barton Mobile 2500+ @ 2.2ghz, 1gb of RAM, nVidia 6800, Audigy 2 ZS...
[09:44] <jhank> or does anyone know another way to mount FTP server
[09:44] <Peps> sonoud: if you google 'pioneer 110d linux' the first entry is  'DVR-110D slow in linux :-('
[09:44] <brownie17> bob2, can you quickly tell me what the command is to change a directory and all its sub-directory and folders to writable in my account?
[09:44] <guillem101> spockboy, well, "ifconfig -a" says that kind of things...
[09:44] <brownie17> what is the command to change write permissions for a directory?
[09:44] <FANN> have a silly question... i've installed ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog few days weeks ago.. have almost everything working but i would love to have nvu.. i heard that the new release have nvu in the packages... is that's reason enought to reinstall ? :S
[09:44] <sonoud> Peps, yeah, that is what i saw. slow is ok. but it dosn't work.
[09:45] <Danny|> brownie17, chmod -R +rw foo
[09:45] <Peps> sonoud: I always google hardware before I buy for linux compatibility
[09:45] <bob2> jhank: why do you want to mount it?
[09:45] <bob2> brownie17: what directory?
[09:45] <jhank> just because i access it very often and that would be very comfortable
[09:45] <bob2> FANN: nvu is in breezy...
[09:45] <bob2> jhank: ...
[09:45] <Peps> sonoud: check if you have the latest firmware. if not, yes, update in windows only
[09:45] <jhank> bob2 ?
[09:45] <bob2> jhank: nautilus will pretend to mount them, and make them visible to gnome applications
[09:46] <sonoud> Peps, I am really bad in hardware. I just went lots of shops and ask what the best brand is.
[09:46] <guillem101> Peps, ... someone has to be the one to write down her experience with the hardware ... :-P
[09:46] <delmonico> hi
[09:46] <FANN> yes.. well i means.. download breezy and reinstall all my system (i don't think an upgrade is a good thing...)
[09:46] <Peps> sonoud: can you return it?
[09:46] <sonoud> Peps, how to check which version of firmware for DVD burner I have?
[09:46] <delmonico> how can I use apt to query like "show me alle installed packages from repository 'foo'"?
[09:46] <jhank> bob2 that's right, i try it, thanks
[09:46] <bigfoot1> guys, I'm a forgetful newbie. how can i find out what number my pentium is (pentium, pentium2, pentium3, etc)? I need this for configuring apt-build. Thanks
[09:46] <sonoud> Peps, I don't know. I think i can't. but not sure. which brand is the best one for linux?
[09:47] <Peps> sonoud: don't know. I use LG
[09:47] <FANN> bigfoot.. i am not from unix world.. but if you still have windows can google for a great program called cpu-z
[09:47] <bob2> FANN: there's no need at all to reinstall
[09:47] <LootBeer> can one use winrar or winzip to archive a .avi file or use a linux archiver to do that, i need to shrink my vidoe files to smaller size
[09:47] <brownie17> bob2, i typed  sudo chmod -R +rw warcraft, warcraft being a folder, and and it didn't give me write permission
[09:47] <bob2> delmonico: apt-show-versions
[09:47] <bob2> bigfoot1: apt-build is broken and almost certainly useless
[09:47] <Peps> sonoud: as to firmware, it is somewhere in /proc, but don't remeber offhand
[09:47] <bob2> bigfoot1: also, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:48] <topyli> bigfoot1: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:48] <topyli> heh
[09:48] <delmonico> bob2: thanks will try
[09:48] <bob2> LootBeer: please don't be a .avi-zipping weenie
[09:48] <bob2> LootBeer: unless you actually know it will save a useful amount of space
[09:48] <bob2> LootBeer: also, apt-cache show rar
[09:48] <sonoud> Peps, I read the changelog of firmware. i can't see anything so important to update. http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/popups/dl_DVR-110D616.html
[09:48] <bigfoot1> bob2, it is? Please refer to a howto I'm following, specifically post number 6 at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=425530#top
[09:49] <brownie17> can someone tell me what the command is to change DIRECTORY permissions?
[09:49] <bigfoot1> bob2:  what's wrong with zipping avi?
[09:49] <bigfoot1> topyli: thank you
[09:50] <topyli> brownie17: the same way you change any permissions. if you want all the files inside the dir changed recursively as well, use -R
[09:50] <sonoud> Peps, As what I said, it works perfectly fine with nero in windows. So do you think it should be ok for neroLinux?
[09:50] <brownie17> topyli, well i tried sudo chmod -R +rw warcraft and it just didn't do anything
[09:50] <bob2> bigfoot1: I'd ignore any guide on the forums on prinicple
[09:50] <bob2> bigfoot1: chmod...
[09:50] <majkel> goood, i love irc:D:D
[09:50] <bob2> brownie17: chmod, also your command line is wrong
[09:50] <ajmitch_> evening bob2 :)
[09:50] <brownie17> bob2, ok, what's wrong with it?
[09:50] <bob2> brownie17: presumably you mean sudo chmod -R a+rwx warcrafft
[09:50] <jhank> bob2 that works fine with nautilus, thanks!
[09:51] <Peps> sonoud: worth a try, but if it does not work with k3b expect trouble anyway.
[09:51] <sonoud> Peps, one more thing. is that dangerous to update firmware? will that destroy my burner if I did something incorrectly?
[09:51] <bob2> bigfoot1: they're already compressed.  if you get much more by using zip, your codec is shit.
[09:51] <brownie17> bob2 it owrked thankyopu
[09:51] <bob2> ajmitch_: ciao
[09:51] <pepsi> updating firmware is always dangerous :)
[09:51] <bob2> bigfoot1: that thread appears to have nothing to do with apt-build
[09:52] <pepsi> just tell the power company to not have any issues while you update :)
[09:52] <Peps> sonoud: maybe if you have a power-cut during the update, otherwise not likely
[09:52] <bob2> I tried to fix the RC bug on apt-build in sid the other day, but apt-build appears to not actually work at all
[09:53] <michas> hello, does someone use hisax and udev? How can I tell udev to make the devices for hisax?
[09:53] <bigfoot1> bob2: please look at post number 6. The second step in post number 6 says "sudo apt-get apt-build"
[09:53] <sonoud> Peps, what happened if i chose a wrong version of firmware?  I am sure that 110D. but not sure the weird symbols following that.
[09:53] <bob2> bigfoot1: why don't you give me the correct url?
[09:53] <el-stupido> anyone plays UT on linux?
[09:53] <bob2> holy bajoly
[09:54] <bigfoot1> bob2:  that explains why the zipped spanned file i made of a .avi couldn't work
[09:54] <Peps> sonoud: look in the manual and make sure the version number matches what you download
[09:54] <bigfoot1> bob2, why would you ignore guides from the forums? I thought they are of good quality. If someone tried to write a howto/guide and a moderator saw that it was of bad quality, he'd remove that post, won't he?
[09:55] <bob2> hahaha
[09:55] <ajmitch_> heh
[09:55] <bigfoot1> bob2, what provoked you to say bajoly?
[09:55] <bigfoot1> bob2: whatcha laughing at?
[09:55] <bob2> bigfoot1: I have no idea what you're trying to do, but if it's something like "compile a source package", you don't want or need apt-build
[09:55] <ajmitch_> apt-build is not a tool commonly used to rebuild a source package
[09:55] <sonoud> Peps, I think i just try neroLinux tonight. then tried to update firmware. that gave me headache. nightmare.... anyway, thank you very much for helping.
[09:55] <FANN> thanks everybody... good night and sweet dreams..
[09:56] <bigfoot1> ajmitch, then why is http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=416573&postcount=6 saying that I need to "sudo apt-get apt-build"??
[09:56] <rob^lt> hey are there any ops around?
[09:56] <ajmitch_> bigfoot1: because that's what whoever wrote that post decided to use
[09:57] <bigfoot1> ajmitch_: so after reading that post, what do you think needs to be changed? (I'm can't think very clearly in linux (yet))
[09:57] <RezDawg> clear
[09:57] <sonoud> Peps, thank you very much. I gotta go now. bye.
[09:57] <bob2> bigfoot1: '-Add 'deb-src ftp://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib' to your apt sources list.', then 'sudo apt-get update', then 'sudo apt-get build-dep scim ; sudo apt-get build-dep scim-anthy ; apt-get source -b scim ; apt-get source -b scim-anthy', then in stall the resulting .debs with dpkg.
[09:58] <ajmitch_> as bob2 says :)
[09:58] <glick> hi
[09:58] <glick> excuse my are there any python gurus here?
[09:58] <glick> synaptic says the python-id3lib is installed
[09:58] <RezDawg> Can someone please tell me what ubuntu solution for dvd burning is thank you.
[09:58] <bigfoot1> bob2, wow i guess you understood what that poster really wanted to say.
[09:59] <GNULinuxer> bob2: that scim doesn't segfault?
[09:59] <glick> but i cant import the python id3 module
[09:59] <bob2> GNULinuxer: don't know or care, don't use scim
[09:59] <bob2> glick: dpkg -L python-id3lib
[09:59] <bigfoot1> GNULinuxer: according to that post, if you follow that post's instructions it will not segfault.
[09:59] <ajmitch_> glick: import pyid3lib
[09:59] <electron> hi
[09:59] <electron> I am trying to share my internet connection
[10:00] <electron> someone said guardog, but when I do 'apt-get install guarddog' it can't find it.
[10:00] <dazvid> electron, an easier program is firestarter
[10:00] <electron> but don't I have to do other shit like setup iptables?
[10:01] <dazvid> You may need ipmasq aswell
[10:01] <dazvid> but basically firestarter will do most of the work for you
[10:01] <rob^lt> grr
[10:01] <bob2> windows people don't understand layered systems, afaict
[10:01] <bob2> iptables is the kernel ip mangling layer
[10:02] <electron> There is something wrong with my apt
[10:02] <bob2> iptables is also a command-line program that pokes at ithe kernel stuff
[10:02] <electron> It wont find anything, I don't apt-setup and chose http, australia
[10:02] <bob2> firestarter is a GUI program thatdoes the same ting
[10:02] <electron> but it can't find firestarter or ipmasqurade
[10:02] <dazvid> bob2, yeh its good for noobs like myself. heh
[10:03] <bob2> electron: dude
[10:03] <bob2> again, layer
[10:03] <bob2> that's not "wrong"
[10:03] <bob2> that's "you didn't confiugure apt to look at the ubuntu repositories on the internet"
[10:03] <bob2> now edit /etc/apt/sources.list and enable networks and universe
[10:03] <electron> how do I do that?
[10:03] <jhank> does anyone know when there is a new version of SKYPE to be expected?
[10:04] <wezzer> is ubuntuguide going to be updated to breezy?
[10:04] <jhank> btw my usplash suddenly started to work... strange
[10:04] <Bateau_> is there a 64bit version of ubuntu to Intell 64 CPUs?
[10:04] <electron> bob2, how do I make it do that? I have the file open now
[10:05] <dazvid> Bateau_, yup
[10:05] <electron> sorry I am a n00b
[10:05] <bob2> Bateau_: too vague
[10:05] <dazvid> oh wait
[10:05] <dazvid> intel
[10:05] <Peps> sonoud: still there?
[10:05] <bob2> Bateau_: do you mean "amd64-compatible intel cpus" or "itanium"?
[10:05] <bob2> electron: have you read it?
[10:05] <electron> yes
[10:05] <Bateau_> i mean a 64bit Intel CPU
[10:05] <bob2> Bateau_: no, you're not describing a real CPU
[10:05] <cafuego_> Bateau_: E64T or ia64?
[10:06] <cafuego_> Bateau_: For e64t yes, run amd64. otherwise, no.
[10:06] <Bateau_> e64t yes
[10:06] <cafuego_> Bateau_: e64t = amd64
[10:07] <cafuego_> linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-xeon - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on Intel x86_64.
[10:07] <Nobodyreal> Is there any way to change the system-level timezone on Breezy?  I chose the wrong one during the install.
[10:07] <cafuego_> Although why you'd buy intel if you were after x86_64 will probably always be a mystery to me.
[10:07] <bob2> Nobodyreal: sudo tzconfig
[10:07] <cafuego_> Nobodyreal: sudo 'sudo tzconfig'.
[10:07] <bigfoot1> guys i don't understand how apt-get works. I did sudo apt-get install apt-build, and it installed extra packages (devscripts libappconfig-perl libapt-pkg-perl). But when I did "sudo apt-get remove apt-build", it only removes apt-build. How can I remove all the stuff that came along with  a certain package?
[10:08] <bob2> cafuego_: is that a sudo echo I hear?
[10:08] <bob2> bigfoot1: reason #342342 not to use apt-get for that
[10:08] <cafuego_> boom tish!
[10:08] <bob2> bigfoot1: apt doesn't know or care, and didn't record that fact.  if you use aptitude in futurue, it will
[10:09] <Nobodyreal> bob2, cafuego, thanks.
[10:09] <bigfoot1> bob2, so why do people hear always talk about apt-get this, apt-get that, apt-get blahblah, when aptitude is superior?
[10:09] <bigfoot1> why do people *here*
[10:09] <bob2> why not?
[10:09] <bob2> sometimes you use apt-get, sometimes you use aptitude
[10:09] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: Honestly, use 'synaptic' :-)
[10:09] <bob2> depends what you're doing
[10:09] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: they have different advantages
[10:10] <bigfoot1> cafuego: are you making a joke, or is synaptic better?
[10:10] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: Probably most people don't care that there is no log (I don't).
[10:10] <bigfoot1> apokryphos: how's apt-get better.
[10:10] <bigfoot1> ?
[10:10] <AnArKY87> hi
[10:10] <bob2> apt-get has the build-dep subcommand, for one
[10:11] <bigfoot1> cafuego: don't you care though that the depencies that came with "package A" are no longer used by any other program after you removed "package A"?
[10:11] <cafuego_> bbo2<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is a spambot
[10:11] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: aptitude for example automatically installs recommended packages, and it's quicker, slightly ;-)
[10:11] <dazvid> cafuego, how can you tell?
[10:11] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: apt-get is quicker, I mean.
[10:11] <cafuego_> dazvid: experience
[10:11] <dazvid> fair enough :)
[10:11] <cafuego_> and the random 8-char nicks are a fairly dead giveaway
[10:11] <dazvid> such as that
[10:11] <dazvid> lol
[10:11] <cafuego_> See?
[10:12] <AnArKY87> any user use bootsplash on kubuntu??
[10:12] <dazvid> right on cue!
[10:12] <apokryphos> AnArKY87: yup
[10:12] <cafuego_> join -> nickchange -> quit
[10:12] <AnArKY87> apokryphos, how to use?
[10:12] <cafuego_> And most of them have been <IP_ADDRESS>/8 as of late
[10:12] <ubuntu> labas
[10:13] <apokryphos> AnArKY87: install kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[10:13] <AnArKY87> you use usplash?
[10:13] <apokryphos> yes, though I hardly care much for it
[10:14] <cafuego_> AnArKY87: Install it, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)", reboot.
[10:14] <jhank> is it possible to hide mounts on the desktop but still have it in Locations Menu?
[10:14] <bigfoot1> doesn't anybody here care that the depencies that after you "sudo apt-get remove packageXYZ, the packages (dependencies) that came with packageXYZ are no longer used by any other program ?why would anyone want to use apt-get if this happens?
[10:14] <AnArKY87> apokryphos, I want use bootsplash
[10:14] <cafuego_> Tadah, pretty bootdplash both times a year you boot up
[10:14] <bob2> bigfoot1: apt-get isn't meant for end-users
[10:14] <bob2> bigfoot1: people who don't know how to clean that up shouldn't be using apt-get to install things
[10:14] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: because many people don't care about having them
[10:15] <apokryphos> AnArKY87: a fixed up GRUB, you mean?
[10:15] <apokryphos> AnArKY87: it is possible, and not too hard; try Googling
[10:15] <AnArKY87> ok apokryphos
[10:16] <bigfoot1> apokryphos: people don't care about having the unused packages? You mean that some people don't mind having wasted space???
[10:17] <teroedni> is xorg <IP_ADDRESS> the newest release from xorg
[10:17] <bob2> bigfoot1: if you catre, use aptitde, synaptic or debfoster
[10:17] <bob2> teroedni: www.x.org, go check
[10:17] <bigfoot1> bob2: so since I'm a newbie, would you suggest I stick with aptitude?
[10:17] <cafuego_> bigfoot1: Some people know about 'deborphan' and 'debfoster'.
[10:17] <bob2> bigfoot1: or synaptic
[10:17] <teroedni> i am there but i am still unsure;)
[10:18] <bigfoot1> bob2: but will synaptic remove the depencies if I select PackageXYZ?
[10:18] <propagandhi> how do you set log rotation under gnome
[10:18] <bigfoot1> ...if I select PackageXYZ to remove?
[10:18] <bob2> teroedni: http://ftp.x.org/, "download latest release"
[10:18] <bob2> bigfoot1: no idea, I don't use it
[10:18] <bob2> propagandhi: you don't, you'd edit /etc/logrotate.conf
[10:18] <propagandhi> bob2: cheers, thats what i neede
[10:18] <propagandhi> needed
[10:19] <teroedni> this is the newest right? http://xorg.freedesktop.org/snapshots/
[10:19] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: I sure don't a lot of the time
[10:19] <bob2> teroedni: no
[10:20] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: if I did, I wouldn't have a lot of random programs on my comp that I'd probably not use for a very long time
[10:20] <bigfoot1> bob2 i ran sudo debfoster and i got: "gnome-terminal is keeping the following 1 packages installed:   gnome-terminal-data" Keep gnome-terminal? [Ynpsiuqx?] , " What's this about?
[10:20] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: debfoster --help
[10:20] <jhank> gibfoot1 try using deborphan
[10:20] <teroedni> isent snapshot newest??
[10:20] <bob2> teroedni: you didn't define what you want
[10:20] <bob2> teroedni: the linke I pointed you at is that latest release
[10:21] <bob2> teroedni: snapshots are random development versions
[10:21] <bigfoot1> jhank: what's the diff b/w debfoster and deborphan? they both seem like unloved children.
[10:21] <bob2> teroedni: upgrading X from source is not a good idea, either
[10:21] <bob2> bigfoot1: that's what debfoster does...the manual doesn't have any details of how to use it?
[10:21] <bigfoot1> teroedni: what's snapshot
[10:21] <darrenrxm> can you have other programs running when you install something? Will it wreak the install of the software?
[10:21] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: read the man pages
[10:21] <bob2> darrenrxm: yes, no
[10:21] <bigfoot1> darrenrxm: to summarize bob2: yo!!!
[10:22] <bob2> no.
[10:22] <darrenrxm> excellent! thankyou for the response
[10:22] <jhank> bigfoot1 i don't know the exact difference, sorry -->http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=134
[10:22] <bigfoot1> darrenrxm: yo' welcome, bro.
[10:22] <flozilum> anyone who uses grip ?
[10:23] <rob^> yep
[10:23] <flozilum> i'm having an issue
[10:23] <rob^> ask away
[10:23] <teroedni> why not
[10:23] <flozilum> heh
[10:23] <flozilum> well
[10:23] <flozilum> my cds are ripping painfully slow
[10:23] <why-oh-why> i crap 2 times per morning for some reason
[10:23] <rob^> enable dma
[10:24] <flozilum> can you help me with that?
[10:24] <teroedni> bob":i figured i would lear something new . Therefore i could install latest xorg after 6.8.2 (have that now)
[10:24] <bob2> teroedni: that's a bad idea
[10:24] <teroedni> i want the next 6.9.2 but isent the snapshot the nearest them??
[10:25] <strannik> hello guys..
[10:25] <bob2> just don't do it
[10:25] <rob^> !dma
[10:25] <bob2> if you don't know enough to find a new version, you're only going to break your system
[10:25] <bob2> to be quite blunt
[10:25] <teroedni> why is it so dangerous to build from source then??