[07:18] <rpw> right now I can't even get the vesa drivers to work properly.
[07:18] <rpw> hi y'all, btw :)
[07:18] <SlimG2> Is the xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver replaced by the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver in Gutsy? so I won't need to install the 915resolution package to fix the resolution problem
[07:19] <rpw> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server tells me that discover doesn't detect my graphics hardware...
[07:20] <rpw> broken as in "black screen with random pixels". no textmode console when I press ctrl-alt-fn, but when blindtyping I can at least cleanly restart the box.
[07:23] <rpw> is this a known issue?
[07:23] <gourdin> I got a feisty system without network
[07:23] <gourdin> can I upgrade the system with the gutsy dvd without loosing my datas ?
[07:28] <aburhite> i can't get this dual head to work at all, it keeps on cloning, and i have tried several ways
[07:29] <jsomers> IntuitiveNipple: thanks, that pointed me into the right direction
[07:29] <jsomers> I think it's fixed now, updating seems to work again
[07:39] <ShackJack> gourdin - if you have you home partitioned off in a separate partition, yes... All settings, etc are there..
[07:40] <gourdin> I found an nice howto, I need 30G :) : http://www.howtoforge.com/dvd_images_of_ubuntu_repositories
[08:01] <SlimG2> Is the xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver replaced by the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver in Gutsy? so I won't need to install the 915resolution package to fix the resolution problem
[08:07] <winbond> how can i find out where java installed, when i do "whereis java6-jre" it only returns "java6-jre:
[08:10] <Pici> winbond: which java
[08:10] <winbond> Pici, sun java
[08:10] <Pici> winbond: no, the command is `which java`
[08:11] <No1Viking> /usr/bin/java
[08:11] <No1Viking> Pici, my java aint working, the applications does not start
[08:12] <Pici> winbond: or dpkg -L sun-java6-jre (or whatever the package name is)
[08:12] <No1Viking> I have Sun Java 6 installed
[08:12] <minimec> winbond: /usr/lib/jvm ...
[08:13] <winbond> minimec, yup, need to go through like 3 links to find it
[08:13] <No1Viking> Any idea how to solve it?
[08:13] <magical_trevsky> hi, what's the kubuntu equivalent of this channel? (or is this for all gutsy versions?)
[08:13] <winbond> Pici, thanks, i can trace the links from which java, and iventualkly find the real dir
[08:14] <Pici> magical_trevsky: This is it
[08:14] <winbond> magical_trevsky, this is all in one
[08:14] <magical_trevsky> ah, cool. thanks
[08:16] <No1Viking> No help?
[08:18] <minimec> No1Viking: install sun java 6 . works great here, but you have to copy the java-plugin manually in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[08:19] <No1Viking> minimec, the problem fr me is tha applications, they dont start for some kind of reason.
[08:20] <No1Viking> And yes, I have Sun Java 6 installed
[08:20] <minimec> No1Viking: If you start them in a console... Do you get an error message?
[08:20] <No1Viking> Will check
[08:21] <No1Viking> minimec, This is what I get from one of the apps: You seem to be running GNU's Java implementation, which is incomplete.
[08:21] <No1Viking> Jin requires Sun's Java (or a fully compatible version) 1.4 or later.
[08:22] <No1Viking> I have Sun Java 6 installed
[08:23] <minimec> No1Viking: Ubuntu istalls the gnu version by default... But I didnt' delete it and my java is going fine... Hmmm
[08:24] <No1Viking> I have to check what java that is used by default. I installed this machine yesterday from a Tribe 5 CD and did all the updates
[08:25] <minimec> No1Viking: sudo update-alternatives --config java ;)
[08:25] <minimec> No1Viking: I forgot that ;)
[08:25] <No1Viking> Ahhhh.... I did sr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java and found that it uses /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java as default
[08:26] <No1Viking> Ahhhh.... it uses /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java as default
[08:26] <No1Viking> Thanks anyway, minimec
[08:26] <minimec> No1Viking: sudo update-alternatives --config java ;)
[08:26] <minimec> that's what you want
[08:27] <No1Viking> Yup, I did
[08:27] <No1Viking> :)
[08:27] <No1Viking> Thanks
[08:27] <minimec> np
[08:27] <No1Viking> It works!!  ;)
[08:31] <Richi1> Hi, I have a big problem with my sound on gutsy. Whenever the slider for the master is maxed in the alsa mixer, it uses 100% cpu when playing sound
[08:44] <winbond> i cant start azureus, can someone tell me what this"bash: ./azureus: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" means?
[08:46] <geser> winbond: the file has dos line endings (the ^M)
[08:48] <SlimG2> Is the xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver replaced by the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver in Gutsy? so I won't need to install the 915resolution package to fix the resolution problem
[08:49] <winbond> geser, what endings are dos ending and can i change them?
[08:53] <winbond> anyone has lag problems with irc?  i think the driver for my lancard is messed up
[08:54] <ibbuntu> hi, my wireless connection has suddenly disappeared, has been working fine since tribe3, and still works in Feisty. I just restarted into Gutsy and wireless is gone.
[09:01] <winbond> xxx
[09:01] <leks> Anyone using ext4
[09:02] <winbond> ibbuntu, ive seen a bug that some wireless dont work with 22-11 kernel
[09:02] <leks> i need it compiled as a module
[09:03] <leks> anyone aware of how to do?
[09:03] <winbond> ibbuntu, just downgrade the kernel
[09:03] <winbond> !ext4
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <leks> hm
[09:05] <leks> so no idea?
[09:08] <lnx_> when kubuntu gusty "stable" will be released ?
[09:09] <avatar_> lnx_: kde4 release is scheduled for 11th december
[09:09] <leks> lnx_ why dont u use google?
[09:09] <avatar_> lnx_: don't if kubuntu is waiting for that one
[09:11] <lnx_> im aksing about gusty not about kde 4 .. . ?
[09:14] <winbond> geser, r u here?
[09:14] <Brucevdk> Basically there are only a couple of ways to get the latest versions of certain applications, 1) build from source (using checkinstall or standard Debian tools to create the package, won't be as nice as the actual maintainers do) 2) grab them from an unofficial repository, not always a good idea 3) upgrade to Gutsy but face bugs in other packages/libraries whatever. Right?
[09:15] <geser> winbond: dos and unix have different codings for how an line ends
[09:16] <winbond> geser, but i downloaded the azureus linux package, does it mean it was compiled wrong?
[09:16] <ibbunt1> winbond: Thanks for that, downgrading the kernel worked
[09:18] <geser> winbond: no
[09:18] <phaidros> hi, ok switched to gutsy now :)
[09:18] <geser> winbond: if you open the script with an editor and it displays those ^M simply delete them (not all editor show them)
[09:19] <winbond> ibbunt1, np
[09:19] <winbond> geser, k thank you , will check it out
[09:22] <phaidros> I expected the radeon driver fully 3d supporting rv350 in gutsy. anybody can confirm this?
[09:22] <phaidros> which xorg version is 1.3 ? is it 7.3 ?
[09:25] <strabes> what happened to the default ubuntu wallpaper with today's upgrade??
[09:25] <ConstyXIV> strabes: new wallpaper
[09:25] <strabes> i found it again in /usr/share/backgrounds, but why did it change???
[09:26] <strabes> yeah, it's dark brown :(
[09:26] <strabes> i have to say i'm not a fan
[09:27] <leks> Do i need kernel headers to compile a "ubuntu" kernel
[09:27] <leks> ?
[09:30] <pwnguin> you'll need more than headers
[09:30] <phaidros> build-essentials e.g. :)
[09:30] <pwnguin> and the source
[09:30] <Jordan_U> Is there a reason that whenever I try to edit the xorg.conf in a live session ( running daily CD from two days ago ) I get an error that it has been modified since opening it ( from vim ) , but a diff shows no changes?
[09:33] <winbond> is there a way to compare 2 documents with kate?
[09:34] <jetsaredim> who do I contact about getting a package re-built for gutsy?
[09:35] <winbond> jetsaredim, package meinteiner
[09:35] <winbond> i think
[09:35] <jetsaredim> how do I find out who that is?
[09:35] <jetsaredim> err
[09:35] <winbond> jetsaredim, should be an email in the package description or about page
[09:36] <jetsaredim> winbond: just says kernel team
[09:37] <winbond> jetsaredim, if u use adept or synaptic, and click a package, there should be contact info
[09:38] <jetsaredim> unfortunately not, just says ubuntu kernel team
[09:38] <jetsaredim> the package in question is vmware-server-kernel-modules
[09:43] <RichardHunt> Trying to run 'compiz --replace' I get this error message: Comparing resolution (1024x768) to maximum 3D texture size (512): Failed.
[09:43] <winbond> jetsaredim, just file a bug and say why is should be rebuilt
[09:43] <RichardHunt> Seems to have started today. After I installed updates?
[09:56] <CountX> how can i get a bcm43xx based wireless chip working on gutsy?
[09:56] <CountX> as painlessly as possible?
[09:57] <nosrednaekim> use the restricted-manager :)
[09:57] <CountX> it asks for a driver and i dont know what driver i need
[09:58] <nosrednaekim> oh...
[09:58] <CountX> nosrednaekim: use a local file/download from the internet
[09:58] <CountX> thats what it asks
[09:58] <nosrednaekim> is that for the firmware?
[09:59] <CountX> yea
[09:59] <CountX> i dont know where to get that
[09:59] <CountX> HP doesnt provide support for linux
[09:59] <CountX> they told me....
[10:00] <CountX> i told the nice lady on the phone to get laid
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> CountX: might be easier just to use NDISwrapper with the windows driver
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> its not her fault.
[10:01] <CountX> nosrednaekim: innorite
[10:01] <CountX> nosrednaekim: doesnt ubuntu support bcm43xx?
[10:01] <CountX> nosrednaekim: cause i have no idea what ur talking about
[10:01] <nosrednaekim> yeah... there is a fiesty tutorial for it..
[10:01] <nosrednaekim> ndiswrapper uses windows drivers...
[10:02] <CountX> nosrednaekim: i really dont mind how it gets done, but i dont know what ndiswrapper is
[10:02] <CountX> nosrednaekim: i do however know what the restricted-manager is
[10:02] <nosrednaekim> !ndiswrapper
[10:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:02] <CountX> nosrednaekim: i just apparently need to get a firmware
[10:03] <nosrednaekim> I thankfully am not cursed with a broadcom
[10:03] <CountX> nosrednaekim: i didnt build the laptop
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> eh... but you bought it ;)
[10:04] <CountX> nosrednaekim: otherwise i would care, i would make it a sweet laptop, but then again it would be like a foot thick and need a suitcase to be lugged around, so it really wouldnt be a laptop, just a portable computer....
[10:05] <CountX> nosrednaekim: point is, i wouldnt choose broadcom if i had a choice
[10:05] <CountX> nosrednaekim: i would choose Killer
[10:05] <Jordan_U> Is there a reason that whenever I try to edit the xorg.conf in a live session ( running daily CD from two days ago ) I get an error that it has been modified since opening it ( from vim ) , but a diff shows no changes?
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> my point is you did have a choice since you bought the computer without researching the wireless card. But Thats a rather mute point as you are stuck with it now ;)
[10:05] <CountX> Jordan_U: do you want me to act like i know what ur sauing?
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> Jordan_U: maybe its Displayconfig-gtk... i'm not sure how that works
[10:06] <CountX> nosrednaekim: not really, its a refurb and i got it for the proc and video card, it was a steal
[10:06] <Jordan_U> CountX, No, I'll just wait and hope someone else does :)
[10:06] <CountX> nosrednaekim: like, i didnt steal it, but its cheap nontheless
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> heh
[10:07] <Jordan_U> CountX, What is the exact chipset? bcm43xx ( what is the xx ? )
[10:07] <CountX> 2.02ghz dual core, 256mb nvidia 7600, for 900$
[10:07] <CountX> Jordan_U: i unno
[10:07] <CountX> Jordan_U: how would i find out?
[10:07] <Jordan_U> CountX, That is why I have a laptop with an ATI card :)
[10:07] <CountX> Jordan_U: you got a better deal?
[10:08] <CountX> Jordan_U: wha brand?
[10:08] <Jordan_U> CountX, System -> Preferences -> Hardware Information, or lspci
[10:08] <Jordan_U> CountX, Better deal being free from Apple :)
[10:08] <CountX> Jordan_U: i'll use the terminal so i can get used to it
[10:08] <CountX> Intel or PPC?
[10:09] <CountX> Jordan_U: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 01)
[10:10] <Jordan_U> CountX, Intel, macbook pro
[10:10] <CountX> Jordan_U: damn j00
[10:10] <CountX> Jordan_U: i work with this chick who got a free iPhone just for working at Apple
[10:11] <CountX> Jordan_U: aww, dude i gotta brb, help me when i get back?
[10:11] <Jordan_U> CountX, Sure, ~ how long?
[10:11] <CountX> Jordan_U: its like dead here normally
[10:11] <CountX> Jordan_U: 3 mins
[10:11] <Jordan_U> sure
[10:17] <CountX> ok ok
[10:17] <CountX> Jordan_U: you there?
[10:18] <CountX> i have like a bunch of people calling me
[10:18] <CountX> its my birthday, so like, people feel like they need to call me and remind me
[10:19] <Jordan_U> CountX, Yes, so you know that you just need the firmware, the package to get it is bcm43xx-fwcutter, but Gutsy is supposed to do something with broadcom card in Restricted Manager so please try that first since I am curious :)
[10:21] <winbond> is there a way to compare 2 documents with kate?
[10:21] <CountX> Jordan_U: ya the restricted-manager asks for a firmware
[10:21] <CountX> either online or local file
[10:21] <Jordan_U> CountX, Does Online ask you for a URL or does it just grab it automatically?
[10:22] <CountX> it has one there, but it doesnt look like the right one, but yes its a url slot
[10:22] <Jordan_U> CountX, And if you don't mind a screenshot ( sorry, again, just curious :)
[10:23] <Jordan_U> CountX, So it has a URL by default and you can enter your own if you want? Or is there just a blank URL box?
[10:23] <CountX> ok ok, thats like ctrl+prnt screen to take a window snapshot?
[10:23] <CountX> Jordan_U: it has a url in there already
[10:24] <CountX> Jordan_U: but it defaults to local file
[10:24] <Jordan_U> CountX, Probably because they realized that asking someone to go online for a file might piss them off if the only way they can connect is via wireless :)
[10:25] <CountX> lol
[10:25] <CountX> yeah
[10:26] <Jordan_U> CountX, I don't have a printscreen key so I don't know :) but you can get to it by Applications -> Accessories either way
[10:26] <CountX> Jordan_U: its function>prt sc on my  laptop
[10:27] <_CitizenKane_> hi all, how can i stop strigi from beginning on startup in kubuntu?
[10:28] <CountX> Jordan_U: http://marcels.pure-wrath.com/Screenshot.png
[10:29] <CountX> my name is Marcel BTW
[10:30] <CountX> Jordan_U: you there?
[10:30] <Jordan_U> CountX, Awesome, If you are connected to the net try it
[10:30] <Jordan_U> CountX, No
[10:30] <CountX> lol
[10:31] <CountX> the light is still red
[10:31] <CountX> on my laptop, it has a wifi switch with a light
[10:32] <CountX> Jordan_U: how can i check and see if it works?
[10:33] <Jordan_U> CountX, Try connecting to a wireless network?
[10:35] <doug__> where do i get the gutsy download at?
[10:36] <rbanffy> Hi folks. All icons of my OpenOffice are missing - text equivalents are in their place. Has anyone experienced something like it?
[10:38] <rbanffy> It looks like it is prepared for a screen reader. Either that or the text is a fall-back method if the icons go bad/missing.
[10:39] <Guest009> ok ok
[10:39] <Guest009> i broke the internet
[10:39] <Guest009> ok my laptop
[10:39] <Guest009> Jordan_U: this is CountX on a different computer
[10:40] <rbanffy> Guest009: OK. You win. I must have broken something in OpenOffice, but at least I am able to go on-line.
[10:40] <Guest009> rbanffy: that still sucks you broke openoffice
[10:40] <Guest009> rbanffy: i mean, at least i still can open .doc :P
[10:41] <Guest009> !ghost
[10:41] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[10:41] <Guest009> i win
[10:41] <rbanffy> I can open them. Just all icons in toolbars, menus and such are missing.
[10:42] <rbanffy> Whatever happened, just made OOo suck a little bit more ;-)
[10:42] <CountX> i am now +e, what ever that is
[10:42] <CountX> !+e
[10:42] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work.  Did it download? Is wireless now working?
[10:43] <CountX> Jordan_U: no internet works now
[10:43] <CountX> Jordan_U: the little icon in the top for the network went away and i cant uset he internet in any way now
[10:43] <Jordan_U> CountX, wireless internet?
[10:43] <j4ne> hi. i cannot get dri work with ubuntu gutsy ... i reading /var/log/Xorg.1.log and i found this --> (EE) RADEON(0): [dri]  RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch, [dri]  radeon.o kernel module version is 8.37.6 but version 1.17.0 or newer is needed. anyone can help me ?
[10:44] <CountX> Jordan_U: none
[10:44] <CountX> Jordan_U: no wireless or wired
[10:44] <Jordan_U> CountX, Try running "nm-applet"
[10:45] <CountX> Jordan_U: /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found
[10:45] <CountX> Jordan_U: and no icon still
[10:45] <Jordan_U> CountX, not good
[10:45] <CountX> Jordan_U: ya it sounds ominous
[10:46] <CountX> Jordan_U: what i f*** up now?
[10:47] <Jordan_U> CountX, Oddly enough something to do with sound
[10:47] <Jordan_U> CountX, Try System -> Administration -> Networking
[10:47] <CountX> Jordan_U: wtf?
[10:48] <CountX> Jordan_U ok
[10:48] <Jordan_U> CountX, and what is the output of "ls /usr/bin/esd" ?
[10:49] <CountX> no such file or directory
[10:49] <CountX> that really doesnt sound good...
[10:49] <Jordan_U> CountX, Do you have the ubuntu-desktop package installed?
[10:49] <CyD_> ndiswrapper doesnt work anymore :(
[10:50] <gnomefreak> if n-m isnt working (its important to file a bug at this point, the maintainer doesnt hang out in this channel and this is something he needs to know if it started in last day or 2 sincee he just fixed a few other issues and they might have caused other issues to  surface.
[10:51] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, I am trying to figure out weather it is in fact a problem with nm, since he does not in fact have a /usr/bin/esd
[10:51] <gnomefreak> and iirc he was worried about the ifup update more than the n-m one but still run hand in hand
[10:51] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, I believe he should, no?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> esd is sound
[10:51] <gnomefreak> what does sound have to do with n-m?
[10:51] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, I know, enlightened sound daemon
[10:51] <kurros> esd was removed a while ago...
[10:52] <j4ne> no radeon expert alive ?
[10:52] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found is the error he gets when he tries to start nm
[10:52] <gnomefreak> that is a n-m issue if esd in fact was removed
[10:52] <kurros> it's not a fatal error to nm-applet, just gnome's sound events error
[10:52] <gnomefreak> but i dont see why n-m would look for esd at all
[10:53] <Jordan_U> kurros, gnomefreak So either way it is in fact an nm error
[10:53] <gnomefreak> seems that is 2 differnt issues IMHO
[10:53] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: if esd was removed and n-m is looking for it yes
[10:53] <kurros> Jordan_U: no, any gnome program you start from terminal will say that esd error
[10:53] <gnomefreak> im not sure if esd was removed i heard roumors but never looked
[10:54] <gnomefreak> kurros: the 2.20 fixed most of that
[10:54] <gnomefreak> afaik
[10:54] <kurros> if sound events are turned on
[10:54] <Jordan_U> kurros, gnomefreak What I should have said is that either way *there* is an nm bug, there may or may not also be another bug having to do with esd
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: if kurros is right (im not sure about it ive been working on other things) than its a gnome ubuntu issue and file bug there they can work out if n-m needs to be changed along with other gnome apps but kurros does make sense
[10:55] <Jordan_U> CountX, Are you completely up to date?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> ummmm
[10:56] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, But he said it should not be a fatal error, and nm-applet is not starting
[10:56] <gnomefreak> gstreamer0.10-esd tells me either bits and peices are there or esd is still in repos
[10:56] <kurros> i'm just saying the esd message isn't a fatal one. it's not nm-applet printing it to the console
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: if n-m is looking for esd and it was removed it will be a fatal error
[10:57] <winbond> geser, hey, i opened the azureus  script in kate and open office but none of them show any ^M, in kate there is a tool which says line ending /unix, dos, mac , but it doesnt do anything,
[10:57] <gnomefreak> im still seeing parts of esd all over the place wo im gonna have to assume it wasnt removed from repos unless they are not done removing things
[10:57] <kurros> if he goes to the System->Perferences->Sound app and unchecks use esd on the sound tab the error will stop printing
[10:58] <gnomefreak> but that doesnt mean that n-m will work if its not n-m printing the error than its a gnome isseu but still shouldnt prevent n-m from working
[10:59] <kurros> correct, esd and n-m are unrelated
[10:59] <Vegar> is there an alternate ubuntu installer?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> 16:58 <            asac > gnomefreak: nm appears to crash when supplicant fails
[10:59] <gnomefreak> are you using wpasuppicant by chance?
[11:00] <CountX> dang
[11:00] <CountX> Jordan_U_?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> CountX: does it fail to start on reboot?
[11:01] <Jordan_U> CountX, Sorry, lost wireless for a minute
[11:01] <CountX> gnomefreak: im not sure
[11:01] <geser> winbond: does kate show which line editing is used?
[11:01] <CountX> i'll give a restart a go
[11:02] <gnomefreak> CountX: wait
[11:02] <gnomefreak> 17:00 <            asac > e.g. does nm crash after startup?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> 17:00 <            asac > and if you restart it by:
[11:02] <gnomefreak> 17:00 <            asac > /etc/dbu*/even*/25NetworkManager restart
[11:02] <gnomefreak> 17:00 <            asac > sudo /etc/dbu*/even*/25NetworkManager restart
[11:02] <gnomefreak> 17:00 <            asac > does it work well then?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> CountX: try running those commands and let me know if it works
[11:02] <gnomefreak> this si a common issue atm thats why i ask you test this
[11:03] <CountX> gnomefreak ok 1 sec
[11:03] <gnomefreak> CountX: ty
[11:04] <CountX> gnomefreak im glad to help its just that its my bday and like theres a bunch of people here and im getting phone calls ATM
[11:04] <Jordan_U> CountX, Happy Birthday :)
[11:04] <CountX> haha thanks
[11:04] <gnomefreak> happy birthday
[11:05] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, As extra information this happened ( I think immediately you'll have to ask ) after he used Restricted Manager to grab the firmware for his broadcom card
[11:05] <gnomefreak> sorry have 16 conversations at once here because im trying to walk out door but asac would really like to know if same issue as he has seen
[11:05] <gnomefreak> oh shit
[11:05] <gnomefreak> oops
[11:05] <gnomefreak> crap
[11:05] <gnomefreak> your kidding right?
[11:05] <Jordan_U> !gtfo | gnomefreak
[11:05] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: ill kick myself later
[11:05] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, No, why?
[11:06] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, ;)
[11:06] <gnomefreak> thats not good if firmware is messed up
[11:06] <CountX> gnomefreak: yeah i used the restricted-manager to get bcm43xx firmware, then it crashed
[11:07] <Jordan_U> CountX, Can you pastebin the output of "ls /lib/firmware" ?
[11:07] <CountX> gnomefreak: and sudo /etc/dbu*/even*/25NetworkManager restart worked
[11:07] <gnomefreak> it did
[11:07] <CountX> gnomefreak: for wired yes
[11:08] <CountX> gnomefreak: i am going to try wireless in a sec
[11:08] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:08] <CountX> gnomefreak: how would i search for a wireless network in range?
[11:08] <CountX> gnomefreak: im unfamiliar with it in linux
[11:09] <gnomefreak> im asking
[11:09] <Jordan_U> CountX, They should simply be listed in the drop down menu from the applet in the top right corner
[11:09] <CountX> gnomefreak: restricted-manager shows that the bcm43xx is in use
[11:09] <gnomefreak> CountX: i never learned that eaither :) but most likely in the n-m prefferrnces
[11:09] <gnomefreak> CountX: yes that isnt you issue
[11:09] <gnomefreak> your issue is the same as 90% of n-m issues in last 3 days
[11:09] <gnomefreak> since upgrade
[11:10] <gnomefreak> hes aware of it and been hacking at it (well after he fixes some locales for other packages
[11:10] <Jordan_U> CountX, Make sure that in System -> Administration -> Networking the wireless interface is set to "roaming mode"
[11:10] <gnomefreak> feeling
[11:10] <kurros> CountX: does iwconfig show anything (ESSID)
[11:10] <CountX> Jordan_U: roamin mode is enabled
[11:11] <gnomefreak> CountX: should be in n-m prefferneces
[11:11] <gnomefreak> cant remember what under though it should be noticalbe iirc
[11:11] <CountX> kurros: it shows my broadcom, but no networks, and its not connected so everything is idle
[11:11] <kurros> ConstyX: iwlist [interface]  scan will show a list of networks
[11:11] <kurros> eth1 or whatever
[11:11] <gnomefreak> if i had to guess it will work for wireless as well
[11:12] <gnomefreak> kurros: the issue is caused by wpasupplacant
[11:12] <CountX> kurros: no scan results, but i know of 2 wifi's that i can get on my windows partition in this exact spot
[11:12] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, Maybe I have just been missing it, but I don't think nm-applet has any preferences per se
[11:12] <gnomefreak> just need to make sure for wireless
[11:13] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: not appletlet sorry in system>admin>networking
[11:13] <gnomefreak> or networking tools one of the 2
[11:13] <kurros> ah, i only have an open network here
[11:13] <kurros> interesting
[11:14] <Andy80> hi
[11:14] <CountX> so what, do i have to disable wired to get wireless
[11:14] <CountX> how does that whole thing work, cause i cant find any that i know are here
[11:14] <Jordan_U> CountX, No
[11:14] <CountX> Jordan_U: so its just broke?
[11:14] <Andy80> I've just installed libnss-ldap and I've entered the ldap setup information, but I cannot find any /etc/libnss-ldap.conf
[11:14] <Andy80> where is it?
[11:15] <Andy80> I also try to do: dpkg-reconfigure libnss-ldap, but nothing happens....
[11:15] <Andy80> is it a known bug?
[11:15] <Jordan_U> CountX, Do you see any wireless networks listed if you use System -> Preferences -> Networking ( ie uncheck roaming mode ) ?
[11:16] <CountX> Jordan_U: im not sure
[11:16] <CountX> Jordan_U: im not sure i quite understand
[11:17] <mirak> how do I use tracker and dump beagle ?
[11:17] <Jordan_U> CountX, Sorry, "network" not "networking"
[11:17] <mirak> how can I use tracker in nautilus ?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> mirak: applications>accessories>tracker search tool
[11:18] <CountX> Jordan_U: and what am i looking for?
[11:18] <kurros> mirak: if beagled is not running it will use trackerd
[11:19] <gnomefreak> dump beagle == apt-get remove --purge beagle if you no longer want it
[11:19] <Jordan_U> CountX, Double click your wireless interfance, uncheck roaming mode, and look in the ESSID drop down menu
[11:19] <CountX> Jordan_U: nothing
[11:20] <Jordan_U> CountX, :(
[11:20] <gnomefreak> nothing?
[11:20] <kurros> if iwlist isn't showing anything the network app wont
[11:20] <CountX> gnomefreak: its a blank menu for the ESSID
[11:20] <Jordan_U> CountX, Can you pastebin the output of "iwlist scanning"
[11:20] <gnomefreak> nothing would mean there are no wireless routers set up OR wpasupplacant is preventing you from being able to see it
[11:20] <CountX> kurros: i prefer the terminal, it looks more technical infront of people who own an MAC :P
[11:21] <gnomefreak> CountX: this is a mac?
[11:21] <CountX> i have a lot of MAC friends, i like to poke fun at them
[11:21] <CountX> gnomefreak: no its not, its free
[11:21] <gnomefreak> "G" or intell prc?
[11:21] <CountX> gnomefreak: huh
[11:21] <CountX> hey brb
[11:21] <gnomefreak> CountX: you have to be using wpasupplacant if the command worked
[11:21] <CountX> imma get on irssi on my laptop
[11:22] <gnomefreak> or restarting networ fixed it
[11:22] <slasher> hey, i just upgraded to gutsy and the new deskbar is terible, is there a way to fix it?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> that would be too easy
[11:22] <gnomefreak> slasher: define deskbar?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> you mean the panels?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> assuming its gnome
[11:22] <mirak> gnomefreak: tracker is damn slow to index
[11:22] <HenrikL> Hi, what is the "correct" way of switching what a /etc/alternatives entry points to ?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> mirak: yes i know
[11:22] <mirak> I am sure it was faster before
[11:22] <kurros> deskbar-applet, and no there is no way to "fix it", its the authors decision
[11:22] <mirak> when it was using mysql
[11:22] <mirak> I tested at this time
[11:23] <slasher> the spotlight type applet that now opens a window instead of the spotlight-like search feild
[11:23] <marcel> back
[11:23] <marcel> oh wait, poo
[11:23] <Jordan_U> HenrikL, update-alternatives
[11:23] <kurros> you get used to it, ime
[11:23] <gnomefreak> HenrikL: sudo update-alternatives --all or replace --all with what you want to change
[11:23] <mirak> gnomefreak: is there a way to have index just file names first, then when it's done, go deeper in documents ?
[11:23] <winbond> my vmware machine slowed down a lot from the latest kernel upgrade, anyone noticed a performance drop?
[11:23] <CountX> ok there we go
[11:23] <gnomefreak> mirak: not sure i havent had time to play with it yet
[11:23] <CountX> gnomefreak: what were you saying when i left, sorry i need to get on my laptop to stop switching back and forth
[11:24] <mirak> gnomefreak: why the indexing speed is ranged from 0 the fastest to 20 the slowest ? Is it just the nice setting ?
[11:24] <mirak> niceness
[11:24] <gnomefreak> CountX: on laptop do you see listed networks?
[11:24] <slasher> kurros: would it be possible to uninstall gutsy's deskbar and grab it from feisty's repo's?
[11:24] <CountX> gnomefreak: no, there are none when i do iwlist and in the network manager
[11:24] <gnomefreak> mirak: maybe, its not a package i maintain so i couldnt really say
[11:25] <gnomefreak> CountX: asking him about something atm
[11:25] <gnomefreak> slasher: what deskbar
[11:25] <CountX> gnomefreak: cool, its all good
[11:25] <slasher> deskbar-applet
[11:25] <gnomefreak> you mean applet or panel or what?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> slasher: ah ok
[11:26] <gnomefreak> CountX: works?
[11:26] <CountX> gnomefreak: so about that network thing, am i going to have to like, keep running that command or what?
[11:26] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, Should he try turning off WPA encription so see if it's a wpasupplicant problem or am I missing something? ( I don't use WPA )
[11:26] <CountX> gnomefreak: did that permanently fix it/
[11:26] <gnomefreak> CountX: its just a restart command so you may need to write it down
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: yes
[11:27] <Jordan_U> CountX, Does wireless work?
[11:27] <Andy80> sorry, I had to reboot
[11:27] <gnomefreak> wpasupplicant gets opened n-m crashes
[11:27] <CountX> Jordan_U: to the best of my knowledge no
[11:27] <gnomefreak> slasher: give me a minute. first no you cant install feistied
[11:27] <mirak> gnomefreak: 97.4  0.6   0:14.14 pdftotext lol, tracker convert a pdf to text to index it ???
[11:27] <mirak> that's too much for me
[11:27] <gnomefreak> CountX: you did run iwlist with sudo right?
[11:28] <Andy80> can anyone help me with libnss-ldap please?
[11:28] <Jordan_U> mirak, How else would it work?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> mirak: file a bug
[11:28] <slasher> gnomefreak: that's too bad, but thanks, i'll take any help i can get
[11:28] <CountX> gnomefreak: no...
[11:28] <gnomefreak> CountX: if you do it should list
[11:29] <CountX> gnomefreak: it says that eth1 doesnt support scanning, and there is no such device
[11:29] <Jordan_U> mirak, Can you think of another way to index a PDF?
[11:29] <mirak> Jordan_U: I would prefer him to index all the files, then after go deeper. actually
[11:29] <Jordan_U> mirak, Ahh, ok.
[11:30] <SlimG2> Is the xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver replaced by the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver in Gutsy? so I won't need to install the 915resolution package to fix the resolution problem
[11:30] <mirak> Jordan_U: I am not sure that with a normal usage a normal user would find is files with tracker even after one month, if he doesn't have the computer always online
[11:30] <Jordan_U> mirak, Just a thought, if the file change between indexing and text indexing then you would have a conflicting database
[11:31] <mirak> Jordan_U: no reason
[11:31] <CountX> marcel@marcel-laptop:~$ sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[11:31] <CountX> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device
[11:31] <mirak> Jordan_U: tracker is aware if a file change isn't it ?
[11:31] <Jordan_U> mirak, What do you mean?
[11:32] <mirak> tracker could just index the filenames in it's database
[11:32] <mirak> then once it's done, it do the indexing process and go deeper
[11:33] <mirak> if the file change who cares ?
[11:33] <DShepherd> so is gutsy going to get a new artwork for the release?
[11:34] <CountX> anyone wanna help me/
[11:34] <CountX> no wireless :(
[11:34] <CountX> its my birthday :)
[11:35] <CountX> !grandparidiso
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grandparidiso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <CountX> !granparidiso
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about granparidiso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <CountX> !firefox-granparadiso
[11:35] <CountX> ah, common ubotu
[11:35] <Pici> !info firefox-granparadiso
[11:36] <ubotu> firefox-granparadiso: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu6 (gutsy), package size 9717 kB, installed size 27396 kB
[11:36] <Pici> Thats all she wrote
[11:36] <CountX> Pici: thanks
[11:36] <CountX>  !info wasnt aware of that one
[11:36] <ubotu> Package wasnt does not exist in gutsy
[11:36] <CountX> shh ubotu
[11:36] <CountX> !botsnack
[11:36] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:37] <slasher> haha, that's a terrible pun
[11:37] <CountX> yeah....
[11:37] <CountX> still funny
[11:38] <d4rkmonkey> I don't get it...
[11:38] <CountX> lol
[11:38] <CountX> its ok
[11:38] <slasher> he he he
[11:38] <d4rkmonkey> :'(
[11:38] <CountX> :P
[11:38] <CountX> !yum
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yum - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <CountX> hahaha
[11:38] <CountX> now thats funny
[11:38] <CountX> !Yum
[11:38] <slasher> !info yum
[11:38] <ubotu> yum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (gutsy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB
[11:38] <CountX> poo you
[11:38] <slasher> ;0
[11:38] <slasher> ERR
[11:38] <slasher> ;)
[11:39] <slasher> hit caps instead of shift
[11:39] <CountX> no
[11:39] <CountX> i dun wanna
[11:40] <CountX> ;)
[11:40] <CountX> inno, i get it
[11:40] <slasher> hehe :P
[11:41] <CountX> Jordan_U: poo on you
[11:41] <CountX> Jordan_U: why?
[11:41] <CountX> APT FTW
[11:41] <EqUaTe> Jordan_U: heathen!
[11:41] <EqUaTe> :P
[11:41] <CountX> !FTW
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <slasher> !info ftw
[11:41] <ubotu> Package ftw does not exist in gutsy
[11:41] <Jordan_U> CountX, Because it's too absurd not to :)
[11:41] <CountX> man someone should really fix that
[11:41] <EqUaTe> ubotu: FTW is APT
[11:41] <CountX> how do you add things to ubotu?
[11:42] <Jordan_U> CountX, ubotu foo is bar
[11:42] <EqUaTe> damn.. it goes to the ops chan.. :P
[11:42] <CountX> !FTW
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <CountX> see!
[11:42] <CountX> thats just wrong
[11:42] <Jordan_U> CountX, Join #ubuntu-ops and they will accept reject or ignore it :)
[11:42] <EqUaTe> CountX: it requires the folk in #ubuntu-ops to authorise it
[11:42] <CountX> ah...thats foobar
[11:42] <slasher> messing with the info bot, that's terrible, some day someone will wanna look something up and get nothing but dick jokes
[11:43] <CountX> open source concept?
[11:43] <CountX> I THINK NOT
[11:43] <CountX> slasher: have some confidence
[11:43] <slasher> nevar!!!
[11:43] <CountX> slasher: maybe tho...
[11:43] <CountX> i forgot how to change windows in irssi
[11:44] <slasher> you know i did too
[11:44] <crimsun> /win
[11:44] <crimsun> or use the meta bindings
[11:44] <Jordan_U> turned even
[11:44] <CountX> crimsun: ya if forgot the meta bindings
[11:44] <slasher> the only way i know is /window goto #
[11:44] <slasher> anyone know what the keyboard shortcut is?
[11:45] <crimsun> meta+#
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ther eis /win channel#
[11:45] <gnomefreak> meta+# doesnt work here
[11:45] <gnomefreak> assuming meta is the meta key and # is the channel #
[11:45] <winbond> geser, sorry missed ur post, yes kate can show numbered lines, if that's what u mean
[11:46] <slasher> i wish alt+left/right or something worked
[11:46] <CountX> slasher: there is something like that i just forgot
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ctrl+p ctrl+n work as well
[11:46] <slasher> sweet
[11:46] <geser> winbond: I mean can kate show you if unix, dos or mac  line endings are used?
[11:46] <slasher> thanks gnomefreak
[11:46] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:47] <CountX> thanks bro
[11:47] <CountX> imma forget it though...
[11:47] <Jordan_U> geser, vim will ( it doesn't understand dos or mac line endings :)
[11:47] <slasher> just use it a lot
[11:47] <CountX> slasher: im trying :P
[11:48] <CountX> slasher: you shoul see
[11:48] <slasher> haha
[11:48] <geser> Jordan_U: I know, but I don't know if winbond can use vim
[11:48] <CountX> anyone use wireless? can help me?
[11:48] <CountX> like, still no networks show up
[11:49] <slasher> i use it but mine worked out of the box, sorry
[11:49] <CountX> restricted-manager shows the bcm43xx is in-use
[11:49] <Jordan_U> CountX, Try temporarily turning off WPA to see if it's a WPA issue
[11:49] <CountX> Jordan_U: how :P
[11:50] <Jordan_U> CountX, In FF go to the ip of your router to get to its configuration page
[11:50] <CountX> Jordan_U: im using my neighbors....
[11:50] <CountX> Jordan_U: no WPA no protection
[11:50] <slasher> from the sound of it he's not even seeing ssid's
[11:50] <Jordan_U> bad CountX
[11:50] <slasher> yeah, bad CountX
[11:50] <CountX> Jordan_U: naw were cool, we share files and stuff
[11:51] <abc123> since  last update of the ati driver, the display stay black, i have have already run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but it doesnt help... what's wrong?
[11:51] <Jordan_U> slasher, gnome freak ( trying not to highlight him, sorry if I do ) said that wpasupplicant may be preventing him from seeing the essid also somehow, or maybe I misunderstood
[11:52] <osmosis> anyone use xen in gutsy ?
[11:52] <slasher> hmm, i'll take his word for it, i'm sure he knows more than i do
[11:52] <Jordan_U> CountX, So there is no password on his network?
[11:52] <CountX> Jordan_U: no, and its a she :P
[11:53] <Jordan_U> slackern, Then again I may have misunderstood and she was only talking about nm
[11:53] <CountX> Jordan_U: and im like 3 meters from the router....
[11:53] <slasher> CountX: are you sure your wireless hardware is on btw?
[11:53] <Jordan_U> CountX, In FF put <IP_ADDRESS> in as the URL
[11:54] <CountX> Jordan_U: how would i know
[11:54] <CountX> Jordan_U: iwconfig?
[11:55] <Jordan_U> CountX, Well, try "sudo iwconfig <interface> <ESSID>"
[11:56] <CountX> Jordan_U: i forget this essid
[11:57] <Jordan_U> CountX, Where interface is the interface name that didn't have an error "no wireless extensions" in iwlist and ESSID is the name of your neighbor's network
[11:58] <marek`> hey
[11:58] <marek`> when i do ls -l /bin/sh it points to dash
[11:58] <Jordan_U> CountX, You have a computer which is connected to it, correct?
[11:58] <marek`> is this a typo?
[11:58] <marek`> is it supposed to be bash?
[11:58] <Jordan_U> marek`, It is supposed to
[11:58] <CountX> Jordan_U: not right now
[11:58] <marek`> why?
[11:59] <CountX> Jordan_U: this laptop is the one that connects to it
[11:59] <rom> hi
[11:59] <Jordan_U> marek`, sh is supposed to link to a POSIX compliant shell, dash happens to be *only* POSIX compliant and nothing more, but it's faster than Bash.
[11:59] <Jordan_U> marek`, sh != bash
[11:59] <rom> someone can help me?
[11:59] <marek`> i see
[12:00] <rom> I try to launch compiz-fusion on gutsy
[12:00] <rom> "glxinfo | grep direct" give "direct rendering: Yes"
[12:00] <rom> but when I launch compiz --replace
[12:00] <Jordan_U> marek`, And it should never be assumed that it does ( though many people do, it's called a bashism when you ask for sh when you want bash )
[12:00] <rom> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:00] <Jordan_U> rom, ATI?
[12:00] <rom> nvidia geforce 8600
[12:00] <rom> last drivers
[12:01] <rom> from .run on nvidia website (nvidia-glx-new are old)
[12:01] <Jordan_U> rom, What happens when you try to enable it from System -> Preferences -> Appearance ?
[12:01] <marek`> i see
[12:01] <rom> I use kubuntu
[12:02] <rom> I try apparence
[12:02] <rom> then, what menu?
[12:02] <Jordan_U> rom, I thought that nvidia-glx-new in Gutsy was the newest driver from nvidia.com
[12:02] <Jordan_U> rom, No idea
[12:02] <rom> I think the last was out today
[12:02] <rom> or yesterday
[12:02] <CountX> Jordan_U: int he network-managerp the wireless connection is faded out, what doe sthat mena
[12:02] <rom> but driver seems to work
[12:02] <rom> just compiz doesn't :(
[12:03] <rom> I have this message too:
[12:03] <CountX> Jordan_U: typing fast sry about the grammar
[12:03] <Jordan_U> CountX, Have you tried rebooting yet?
[12:03] <CountX> Jordan_U: im scared too
[12:03] <CountX> Jordan_U: plus im updating
[12:03] <rom> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[12:03] <Jordan_U> CountX, I doubt anything bad will happen, at worst some kittens will be eaten
[12:03] <CountX> Jordan_U: damn kittens...
[12:04] <CountX> Jordan_U: maybe just maybe they will convert to gajaism and be 'happy' kittens
[12:04] <CountX> OR THEY WILL BE DESTROYED!!
[12:04] <rom> someone has an idea?
[12:04] <Jordan_U> CountX, Speaking of which, what was that Desktop Background you had?
[12:05] <CountX> Jordan_U: which one, the religeon one?
[12:05] <Jordan_U> CountX, Yes, the one in the screenshot
[12:05] <CountX> Jordan_U: i use wallpaper-tray, on a 1 minute cycle, i have like 200 desktops
[12:05] <CountX> Jordan_U: its from deviantart.com, i donwloaded all my favourates
[12:06] <CountX> Jordan_U: actually nbow that you mention it, i need to backup all those on my site
[12:06] <Jordan_U> CountX, Link?
[12:06] <Jordan_U> :)
[12:06] <CountX> Jordan_U: the link is long gone...
[12:06] <CountX> lost in time
[12:06] <ReL1K> anyone have the issue with an annoying white box when using compiz
[12:07] <ReL1K> ??
[12:07] <rom> what card?
[12:07] <ReL1K> intel
[12:07] <Jordan_U> CountX, Can you send it to me?
[12:07] <CountX> Jordan_U: im uploading the 32 best
[12:07] <rom> I don't know:(
[12:07] <ReL1K> gm965
[12:08] <CountX> Jordan_U: the titles oare pretty good, so you should be able to pick it out
[12:09] <winbond> geser, i can use vim, do i need to specify anything in vim to show the endings, because i still dont see anything
[12:11] <ReL1K> i heard someone talking about this before, noone has an idea how to fix the issues in compiz where theres a weird white box around everything??
[12:11] <CountX> Jordan_U: http://marcels.pure-wrath.com/desktops/So_Many_Answers_by_RadicallyPoetic.jpg
[12:11] <rom> nobody knows for my compiz bug?
[12:11] <geser> winbond: sorry, I don't have right now a file to test
[12:12] <geser> winbond: and it's time for me to go to bed
[12:12] <CountX> Jordan_U: this one is pretty freakin sweet
[12:12] <CountX> http://marcels.pure-wrath.com/desktops/Copy%20of%201297171615_cfe280f144_o.png
[12:12] <winbond> geser, ok , thanks
[12:13] <darrend> why is apache a dependency of php5?
[12:13] <CountX> really?
[12:16] <Jordan_U> darrend, Good question :)
[12:17] <CountX> Jordan_U: if im not back in 5 minutes, something went horribly wrong
[12:18] <CountX> Jordan_U: and i want you to know...you were a real friend bro
[12:18] <CountX> jk jk
[12:18] <CountX> :P
[12:18] <CountX> but seriously if im not back soon somethings wrong
[12:18] <Jordan_U> CountX, It's OK, as long as text doesn't start getting scre13452345234523409 )(IU)*&Y&%*681wrqwr youf f&^in#
[12:23] <slasher> i've got class, thanks for the help, later
[12:24] <CountX> bakc
[12:24] <CountX> back, and i have internet apparently
[12:25] <Jordan_U> CountX, Still no wireless though?
[12:25] <CountX> Jordan_U: lemme check
[12:25] <CountX> Jordan_U: i have 3 network icons on the top
[12:25] <CountX> wow
[12:26] <CountX> aint that special
[12:26] <CountX> no i dont see any wireless
[12:27] <Jordan_U> CountX, Does sudo modprobe bcm43xx output anything?
[12:27] <CountX> nothing...
[12:29] <Jordan_U> CountX, Did it work in feisty?
[12:30] <Jordan_U> CountX, And can you pastebin the output of "ls /lib/firmware" ?
[12:36] <ReL1K> anyone have the issue with an annoying white box when using compiz?
[12:36] <ConstyXIV> can you remap your menu key to something useful, like scale?
[12:37] <osmosis> where can I check the lastest new packages for gutsty ?
[12:37] <ConstyXIV> osmosis: same way as always
[12:37] <ConstyXIV> osmosis: either apt-get update or the update manager
[12:38] <osmosis> ConstyXIV: i dont have it installed though.  web page ?
[12:38] <gib> I'm having an issue with yelp in gutsy.  It doesn't display any images; it only shows text--which is displayed fine.  It don't get any error messages when launching it from the command line, and like I said, it works fine except for not showing any images.
[12:38] <ConstyXIV> osmosis: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <osmosis> ConstyXIV:  updates are there ?
[12:39] <gib> Is anyone esle seeing images in there help files for gnome-based apps that use yelp?
[12:40] <osmosis> ConstyXIV:    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy    has  lastest uploads
[12:41] <gib> So, is that a known issue.  It seems like the gnome guys break yelp with every revision.
[12:44] <CountX> Jordan_U:
[12:44] <CountX> Jordan_U: 2.6.22-10-generic  2.6.22-11-generic  bcm43xx_microcode11.fw
[12:44] <gnomefreak> gib: what steps are you taking to get that?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> CountX: hint we are at 2.6.22-11
[12:44] <gnomefreak> soon to be -12
[12:45] <CountX> gnomefreak: que?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> atleast it should be done before beta release
[12:45] <CountX> gnomefreak: Que?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> what do you mean?
[12:45] <CountX> espanol?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> !es
[12:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:45] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:45] <CountX> no hablo inglis
[12:47] <marcel> !ghost
[12:47] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[12:47] <marcel> i win
[12:47] <CountX> stupid
[12:48] <CountX> sorry im back, i keep getting birthday calls
[12:48] <CountX> people telling me about being 1 year older and responsibility and blah blah
[12:48] <pwnguin> CountX: dialup?
[12:50] <CountX> pwnguin: NO!
[12:50] <CountX> !dialup
[12:50] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:50] <CountX> NO
[12:50] <CountX> dialup, just die damnit
[12:50] <pwnguin> CountX: just wondering why you disconnected because of the phone
[12:50] <CountX> pwnguin: no i was shosted
[12:51] <CountX> ghosted
[12:51] <pwnguin> which happens when you get disconnected and reconnect
[12:51] <pwnguin> anyways
[12:51] <CountX> pwnguin: yeah i pressed ctrl+c
[12:52] <pwnguin> is there some trick to getting sd readers to work in gutsy?
[12:52] <CountX> Jordan_U: hey man
[12:52] <CountX> Jordan_U: no wireless still...
[12:52] <Jordan_U> CountX, Sorry if you already answered, but did it work in Feisty?
[12:53] <Jordan_U> CountX, and what is the output of "ls /lib/firmware" ?
[12:53] <CountX> Jordan_U: i only used feist for a little, and i didnt try, sorry
[12:53] <CountX> Jordan_U: marcel@marcel-laptop:~$ ls /lib/firmware
[12:53] <CountX> 2.6.22-10-generic  2.6.22-11-generic  bcm43xx_microcode11.fw
[12:54] <CountX> Jordan_U: and i still have 3 network icons on the top bar
[12:54] <Jordan_U> CountX, Do you have a feisty LiveCD? it would be useful to know if this is a regression
[12:54] <CountX> Jordan_U: i do but its scratched, cd's dont last long in my room
[12:55] <Jordan_U> CountX, strange, I have a bunch of .fw files, I am guessing you should also and you just don't have the .fw ( firmware ) file for your chipset
[12:55] <Jordan_U> CountX, That's what cases are for ;)
[12:55] <CountX> Jordan_U: you do know its my bday right....hook me up man ;)
[12:56] <ReL1K> anyone using gutsy maybe with intel drivers have issues with compiz showing a white box around things, like all windows, the start menu, etc.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ReL1K: intel drivers are buggy atm
[12:56] <Jordan_U> ReL1K, Try with copy mode
[12:56] <ReL1K> Jordan_U: how do i do that? :P
[12:57] <Jordan_U> CountX, I can actually send you some more .fw files though.
[12:57] <ReL1K> and is anyone having issues where every so often they copy and paste something and if they copy english, it pastes out japanese characters? :P
[12:57] <d4rkmonkey> ReL1K uh, isn't intel blacklisted or something now?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> --use-copy i think or i know you can do  it from the gui settings manager
[12:57] <CountX> Jordan_U: what would i do with thosE/
[12:57] <ReL1K> d4rkmonkey: yea, got it to work though
[12:57] <Jordan_U> CountX, Put them in /lib/firmware
[12:57] <ReL1K> had to edit the compiz config under /usr/bin/compiz, comment out the T=T$ #intel 965 line
[12:57] <ReL1K> works fine after that
[12:57] <ReL1K> cept the little white box :P
[12:58] <CountX> Jordan_U: whats that worth?
[12:58] <d4rkmonkey> ReL1K Ok, the bugs are probably the reasons that it is blacklisted lol
[12:58] <ReL1K> and for the record, compiz worked perfectly fine 100 percent fine like 4 days ago
[12:58] <ReL1K> then the updates cmae
[12:58] <ReL1K> came
[12:58] <ReL1K> :)
[12:58] <AmyRose> I finally broke down and used aptitude to upgrade...
[12:59] <AmyRose> XD
[12:59] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, Do you know if after using r-m for broadcom and extracting from the default driver it should put more than one .fw file in /lib/firmware or does it actually just keep the one that it detects is right for that card? ( in feisty with fwcutter by default you get a lot of firmware files )
[12:59] <Jordan_U> ?
[12:59] <terlmann> good for you!
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: should use the one it detects afaik
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: i havent had to update firmware for anything yet
[01:00] <MenZa> Also, can anyone tell me why it might be that I can't scroll vertically by sliding down the right side of my touchpad anymore? I could on Feisty. :/
[01:00] <MenZa> -the Also bit.
[01:00] <pwnguin> MenZa: check the mouse settings
[01:00] <Jordan_U> CountX, Probably won't help but try this, download trogdoor.googlepages.com/firmware.zip and extract the .fw files to /lib/firmware ( I assume you know how to use sudo and mv ) then reboot
[01:01] <MenZa> pwnguin: I'm re-configuring xserver-xorg right now; which should I pick? /dev/input/mice, /dev/psaux, /dev/ttySO, /dev/tts0 or /dev/gpmdata?
[01:01] <pwnguin> MenZa: synaptics is getting a bit of attention recently, perhaps due to a recent wsj article
[01:01] <pwnguin> MenZa: no clue
[01:01] <MenZa> pwnguin: meh
[01:01] <MenZa> I'll try
[01:01] <Jordan_U> CountX, Actually to test, mv the one .fw file that is there somewhere else temporarily before copying the others over
[01:01] <pwnguin> id go with /input/mice
[01:02] <MenZa> Did
[01:02] <pwnguin> or maybe psaux
[01:02] <pwnguin> but ttyS0 is foolish
[01:02] <MenZa> brb
[01:02] <MenZa> restarting X
[01:03] <Jordan_U> CountX, I am going to have to leave soon but I am getting picked up so I am not sure exactly when, if I leave than tell me what happened with a /msg
[01:03] <CountX> Jordan_U: ok, im trying to lean mv
[01:03] <CountX> learn
[01:03] <MenZa> That didn't work. :(
[01:04] <Jordan_U> CountX, sudo cp /directory/where/you/unzipped/to/firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware
[01:05] <Jordan_U> CountX, But first "sudo mv /lib/firmware/*.fw Desktop/" or wherever else you want
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Meh, I'm not giving very clear directions :(
[01:08] <CountX> okay
[01:08] <CountX> there are still 3 network icons on the top bar
[01:08] <CountX> little weird
[01:09] <Balaams_Miracle> Gutsy problem: I've just moved from Xubuntu to Ubuntu using the 'Mark packages by task' feature in Synaptic (i know, not recommended). Now i wanted to try out these desktop effects i've been hearing so much about, but it refuses to cooperate. Here're the errors it throws. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38045/  Anyone know how to solve this? Is this a known problem or is it something i did?
[01:10] <Jordan_U> CountX, I'm gone
[01:11] <CountX> Jordan_U: fudge
[01:12] <CountX> can anyone explain the 3 network icons? marcels.pure-wrath.com/Screenshot.png
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ConstyXIV: start removing them until you find the one that is keeping you connected
[01:14] <Balaams_Miracle> CountX: I haven't got a clue, besides the suggestion that you maight have done it yourself, although i think you've already ruled that one out
[01:14] <ConstyXIV> gnomefreak: ???
[01:15] <gnomefreak> sorry
[01:15] <CountX> Balaams_Miracle: haha, i know i did it
[01:15] <gnomefreak> CountX: remove them until you find the one that kills your connection
[01:15] <CountX> Balaams_Miracle: id like to fix it, as well as my wireless
[01:15] <gnomefreak> CountX: sounds like while you were trying to get it started you open it more than once
[01:15] <gnomefreak> or reboot and see how many show up
[01:16] <Balaams_Miracle> CountX: then i'd sughgest you follow gnomefreak's advice :-)
[01:16] <Balaams_Miracle> (bleh, me and my typos)
[01:16] <gnomefreak> wireless fix will be uploaded in next day or 2 (its about done) but we are frozen so it has to be accepted as showstopping and i thin it is
[01:16] <CountX> gnomefreak: i have rebooted like 3 times with all threee coming back
[01:16] <CountX> hello?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> CountX: kill them one by one and see what happens start with closest the the left
[01:17] <gnomefreak> that should be last one added
[01:17] <CountX> gnomefreak: they all act as one
[01:17] <CountX> gnomefreak: if i close on they all close
[01:17] <CountX> one*
[01:17] <gnomefreak> CountX: that sounds wrong
[01:18] <CountX> gnomefreak: it looks wrong
[01:18] <gnomefreak> its possible ofcourse but unlikely see if ps aux lists 3 processes for n-m
[01:18] <Balaams_Miracle> Try killing them from the processmanager
[01:18] <gnomefreak> CountX: how ar eyou killing them?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> are*
[01:19] <gnomefreak> yes that will kill all of them
[01:19] <CountX> gnomefreak: im down to ne
[01:19] <gnomefreak> right click icon and close
[01:19] <gnomefreak> should work
[01:19] <CountX> can you read me?
[01:19] <Balaams_Miracle> Yes
[01:19] <CountX> cause im down to one now
[01:19] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:19] <CountX> coolios
[01:19] <gnomefreak> told you :)
[01:19] <CountX> gnomefreak: still no wireless...
[01:19] <gnomefreak> CountX: wait for the fix than lets see what we can do
[01:20] <CountX> gnomefreak: fix?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> im fairly sure the fixes for n-m will fix most if not all your issues
[01:20] <gnomefreak> CountX: the fix for it is just about done
[01:20] <CountX> gnomefreak: cool like next few days close?
[01:20] <CountX> gnomefreak: by saturday fix? :P
[01:20] <gnomefreak> wpa is causing your issues (im about 85% sure on that)
[01:20] <Balaams_Miracle> gnomefreak: You seem to know quite a deal. Any idea how i can solve my problem?
[01:20] <CountX> gnomefreak: i dont use wap
[01:21] <CountX> wpa*
[01:21] <gnomefreak> CountX: look for it by monday since we are frozen


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[21:16] <KGB-X> pango upstream/latest f3dd73c Matthias Clasen pango/pangocairo-font.c * Fix hexbox drawing a bit more * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/pango/-/commit/f3dd73c
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[21:16] <KGB-X> pango upstream/latest 089aa34 Matthias Clasen NEWS * 1.52.1 * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/pango/-/commit/089aa34
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[21:06] <technoviking> think spamming other Ubuntu Member should be againist the CoC:)
[21:07] <belkinsa> It is but they could be taken over by a bot
[21:07] <popey> technoviking: i did
[21:08] <popey> i got it to my personal email address, not my ubuntu one
[21:08] <elfy> hi technoviking - fc m/l got it too :)
[21:09] <pleia2> yeah, cc as well
[21:09] <pleia2> seems like his whole addressbook ;)
[21:09] <elfy> yep
[21:09] <elfy> didn't know it was his wife - but I guessed :)
[21:10] <popey> What a dick move.
[21:10] <technoviking> sigh... Vorian has "issues" sometimes, so tread lightly:)
[21:10] <popey> Then again boundaries never were his strong point.
[21:10] <pleia2> indeed
[21:10] <technoviking> lol
[21:10] <elfy> I'd not vote - but I'm not close enough to Idaho to be able to :)
[21:10] <popey> Also, hello technoviking, long time no see!
[21:11] <technoviking> cheers popey
[21:11] <mhall119> I'm not against the principle of getting your FOSS friends on board politically....but this wasn't the right way to go abou tit
[21:11] <pleia2> btw, Idaho is a state, it's in the west part of the country
[21:11] <pleia2> :)
[21:11] <elfy> the country?
[21:11] <pleia2> US
[21:11] <elfy> pretty sure that's Cornwall :D
[21:12] <mhall119> lol
[21:12] <mhall119> elfy: a bit further west than that
[21:13] <elfy> Ireland?
[21:13] <elfy> :D
[21:13] <mhall119> wester-er
[21:13] <elfy> ha ha ha
[21:13] <technoviking> I live close, but in a different state
[21:13] <elfy> and hi technoviking from me too :)
[21:13] <jose> I have been receiving "How have you been?" emails with a spam/scam link to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>more than 50 or even 100 today
[21:13] <belkinsa> Same, RT knows thougg
[21:13] <mhall119> the CC email had a different subject, and was sent from the campaign's email not an @ubuntu one
[21:14] <belkinsa> RT said, "I suspect that what you are seeing are forgeries, and not actually
[21:14] <belkinsa> mailing list postings.".
[21:14] <pleia2> mhall119: btw, I hit the unsub button for cc
[21:14] <pleia2> belkinsa: yeah
[21:14] <mhall119> thanks pleia2 :)
[21:15] <belkinsa> That spambot seems to hit many lists, atcive and dead ones alike
[21:15] <pleia2> they all do
[21:15] <pleia2> I just clean up the queue and move on, spam is spam
[21:16] <popey> Spamming people makes you unfit for public office IMHO.
[21:16] <pleia2> hehe
[21:16] <belkinsa> Yeah, I delete everything that is my Bulk mail
[21:16] <belkinsa> Well, almost everything, miss fallen things get moved back to my inbox
[21:17] <mhall119> popey: there's an old saying, I don't recall who or what the exact wording was, but something along the lines of "wanting to hold public office makes you unfit to hold public office" :)
[21:17] <popey> "If you've received unsolicited mail from one of our users, please notify us immediately at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Every complaint is investigated, and you will receive a response from our abuse team detailing the action we’re taking to deal with the issue."
[21:17] <popey> fwiw
[21:18] <pleia2> mhall119: nice
[21:18] <popey> mhall119: yeah, I have heard the same
[21:19] <popey> Hows the CC btw? ☻
[21:19] <pleia2> tsk :)
[21:20] <popey> :D
[21:20] <mhall119> popey: you know how it is, never anything to do :)
[21:20] <popey> Indeed, slackers.
[21:20]  * popey wanders off
[21:21]  * belkinsa hides back in the shadows.
[21:22] <technoviking> move the buttons again, that will give you something to do:)
[21:23] <mhall119> did the buttons thing ever become a CC issue?
[21:23] <mhall119> I can't imagine what the CC would do there
[21:23] <elfy> send people mirrors ...
[21:27] <popey> http://havethebuttonsmovedbackyet.com/
[21:27] <technoviking> I remember having to discuss it at a CC meeting
[21:28] <popey> someone was recently adamant that the whole reason the buttons moved was because of Windicators.
[21:28] <popey> Also adamant that they moved in 10.10.
[21:28] <popey> I pointed out screenshots of 10.04 but this didnt help.
[21:30] <elfy> I'd have been surprised if it had helped
[21:33] <popey> ☻