[12:02] <pavlushka> Tuhin: o/
[12:02] <Tuhin> hi
[16:42] <pavlushka> zaki: o/
[16:42] <zaki> pavlushka, wb :)
[19:33] <pavlushka> wb zaki Tuhin
[19:34] <zaki> ty pavlushka
[19:34] <pavlushka> trying to run plex media server on RPI3
[19:38] <pavlushka> \o/
[19:39] <pavlushka> its running
[19:55] <zaki> good work pavlushka
[19:55] <zaki> \o/
[19:56] <pavlushka> zaki: but ....
[19:56] <zaki> what?
[19:56] <zaki> hi Tuhin
[20:10] <Tuhin> hi
[20:51] <zaki> Tuhin_, you've got a tail!! :P
[20:51] <zaki> Check out :D
[20:51] <Tuhin_> hmm
[20:52] <Tuhin_> bad internet i guess
[20:52] <zaki> Good Night pavlushka, Tuhin_ and others :)


[02:21] <SnapSnap> I used to have Ubuntu One installed. When a file was synced a checkmark would appear on the icon. I reinstalled Ubuntu One after I quit using it for a while, and now there is no indicator if a file is synced or not.
[02:21] <SnapSnap> Is there a way to get the checkmark/syncing symbol back?
[09:31] <JamesTait> Happy Friday, everyone! :-D


  But fretting over it unfortunately won't fix anything.
[02:13] <Amaranth_> ok, hopefully fixed
[02:13] <Flannel> Yay!
[02:14] <Amaranth> My current theory is that my cable modem's NAT was keeping my router and computer from seeing how flaky my computer is
[02:14] <Amaranth> So I turned the NAT back on but put my router in the DMZ
[02:15] <Amaranth> s/flaky my computer/flaky my connection/
[04:51] <lulwutz> Using proxy here, I was granted to use #kubuntu and it is not what I wanted.  Please grant me access to #ubuntu.  Thank you.
[05:00] <Flannel> lulwutz: That's because you're banned from #ubuntu
[05:01] <lulwutz> Flannel: How long do ban last?
[05:01] <Flannel> lulwutz: Until they get resolved.  In this instance, you'll need to discuss it with the operator who banned you
[05:01] <Flannel> which I believe is bazhang.
[05:02] <lulwutz> Flannel: I see.  Thank you.
[05:02] <lulwutz> bazhang: Are you available?
[05:02] <bazhang> lulwutz, hi
[05:03] <lulwutz> bazhang: Hello.  May we discuss our matter? ^^
[05:03] <bazhang> lulwutz, what nick were you using at the time
[05:03] <lulwutz> bazhang: iLove, iRa... etc.
[05:04] <bazhang> iRape?
[05:04] <lulwutz> bazhang: Yes.  And iSleep, iSomething.  Lot of iPhenanoms(sp?)
[05:05] <bazhang> lulwutz, you were asked to change that nick, yet proceeded nonetheless, adding a comment 'its all about the love'
[05:05] <lulwutz> bazhang: I believe I was banned during the process of changing nicknames, but not the ident.  This involves reconnecting the server, correct?
[05:06] <lulwutz> bazhang: I responded with that comment to somebody before you sent me a private message asking to change the nickname.
[05:06] <bazhang> is my synopsis an accurate one lulwutz ?
[05:07] <lulwutz> bazhang: What do you mean?  What synopsis?
[05:08] <bazhang> lulwutz, being asked to change, yet proceeding with the above comment with that nick
[05:10] <lulwutz> bazhang: Using unsuitable nickname, I joined and discuss.  The above comment was proceeded.    I changed it.  You said something about ident.
[05:11] <bazhang> !coc | lulwutz please read this
[05:11] <lulwutz> I do not know how I change ident but I'm assuming this have to do with the activity of disconnect/reconnect the server.
[05:11] <bazhang> !guidelines > lulwutz
[05:12] <bazhang> lulwutz, you understand how that nick and ident are *completely* unacceptable and offensive?
[05:13] <lulwutz> bazhang: Yes I understood and knew it firsthandly.  My condelences for being silly which should not be happening in first place. :<
[05:13] <lulwutz> bazhang: I apologized for my trollish behaviors.
[05:15] <bazhang> lulwutz, I'm not entirely convinced of your apology, as the last time you joined to discuss it, you had the attitude of 'lul' as it was OK and much ado about nothing
[05:18] <lulwutz> bazhang: I see.  You're not convinced.  What can I do at this point?  I would like to join #ubuntu and help other people to the extent of my abilities and to get my wireless issue fixed so I could sell the netbook (this one).  I have searched the forums to no avail and I'm attempting to find out if anybody have same model as I do... would know the workaround for wireless issue.  I'm going to eBay it asap.
[05:19] <lulwutz> But to do that, I have to convince you.  I know apology over online would seem silly and quite easy, but there are no "verified" way to apologize through online.
[05:20] <Guest34476> This is me.  Avoiding any "lul" in my nickname.
[05:23] <bazhang> Guest34476, this is not about apologizing to me; it is about the complete unsuitability of that nick and ident for Ubuntu channels, and indeed anywhere. and as you admit you knew beforehand and were using it to troll
[05:24] <Guest34476> bazhang: By the way, this is mobi-sheep.  If you recall, yes, I was being silly.  My main system is in Dell Repair because I flipped the cereal bowl accidentally on the laptop.  I'm operating everything on the netbook and I missed my main system already.  This was my punishment. ;(
[05:24] <Guest34476> bazhang: Yes, I apologized for troll and I'm telling you -- This won't happen again.  Please do mark my word.
[05:24] <Guest34476> If you could.
[05:26] <bazhang> Guest34476, you are a long time user of #ubuntu channel then (I recall the name mobi-sheep). Please read the guidelines and code of conduct above
[05:26] <Guest34476> Okay.  I'll read it.  Be right back.
[05:31] <bazhang> Guest34476, I dont feel comfortable lifting the ban at this point, as you consider it being 'silly'. I feel the need for guidance from some of our senior operators in this instance
[05:33] <Guest34476> bazhang: Being an operator in #ubuntu is not a privilege, it is a responsibility.
[05:34] <Guest34476> bazhang: It said so on the IRC Guideline.  You have your responsibility and you executed it beautifully.  I'm not going to argue with you on this one.  I even knew I did wrong.
[05:35] <Guest34476> bazhang: I only want to say I'm sorry and if you don't feel comfortable, please do seek guidance from others.  I'll wait patiently.  Also, I'm only Ubuntu user for six months or so but I have helped a lot in #ubuntu.
[05:39] <bazhang> Guest34476, please return in 24 hours as that should be enough time for others to weigh in.
[05:40] <Guest34476> bazhang: Okay.  Thank you.  Have a nice evening/night/morning/ or whenever it is in your time zone.  Thank you again.  I'll be going now.
[05:41] <bazhang> mobi-sheep. huh.
[05:42] <bazhang> elky jussi01 Pici would appreciate any views here
[05:45] <elky> let me get this straight... mobi-sheep is... iRape?
[05:50] <elky> sorry keep bumping the RF button on the laptop. did someone reply to me?
[05:50] <Flannel> Not within the past five minutes
[05:50] <Flannel> if that's what you're asking
[05:51] <elky> that is, yes
[05:51] <jussi01> Ive jus got off the night train, with very little sleep - though the bed was comfortable. Not a good time to get my view.
[05:55] <bazhang> elky, yes mobi-sheep was iRape
[05:58] <elky> le sigh.
[07:58] <indus> hi
[07:59] <indus> hi was chatting in ubuntu off topic, and 'your country sucks' is not in the spirit of ubuntu i believe,please take some action
[07:59] <indus> goodbye then
[08:01] <jussi01> indus: you have the ability to say something also - catalyse. :) anyone can do this, you dont need to be an op. *:)
[08:01] <indus> no its a bad argument
[08:02] <indus> i dont think any country sucks so i cant reply to such things
[08:03] <jussi01> indus: just say what you just said to us! ie. Hey, I dont think "your country sucks" is in the spirit of ubuntu chat, can we avoid that.
[08:03] <indus> well,ok
[08:03] <indus> but does boil the blood
[08:05] <jussi01> indus: Ill have a look now, but its part of your participation to try and make the feeling good there. consider it like you are with a group of friends, do you call the police everytime someone says something not nice?
[08:06] <indus> jussi01:i get your point,but iam new in offtopic, and these things put you off,but iam glad you will look into it
[08:07] <indus> but nvm
[08:07] <jussi01> indus: I agree, stating things like that is distasteful, but you are part of the community as well. :)
[08:07] <jussi01> anyway, thank you for the heads up :)
[08:07] <indus> ok, somehow irc seems more hostile than the forums,those are really friendly
[08:08] <indus> i feel at home there,and i want to be here too
[08:08] <jussi01> ok, well thanks and see you next time.
[08:09] <indus> peace :)
[08:27] <bazhang> hmm. can't seem to edit a factoid
[08:27] <Flannel> which one?
[08:28] <jussi01> yer looged in?
[08:29] <Flannel> the suspense is killing me!
[08:30] <bazhang> the one for ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ; I get pinged there everytime someone calls it, but I am not on the access list so seems silly to have it (others work fine, am logged in)
[08:30] <Flannel> I don't think there's a separate ops trigger in -ot
[08:31] <bazhang> right. so I have just have to get pinged there then. hoped to remove my name, but if that is not possible, no worries.
[08:31] <Flannel> I'm just saying, I don't think there's a separate one.
[08:32] <jussi01> !search ops
[08:32] <jussi01> not looking that way...
[08:33] <jussi01> !search op
[08:33] <Flannel> jussi01: "ops" isn't on that list?
[08:33] <bazhang> well it will work out at any rate. no big deal.
[08:33] <jussi01> hrm, weird, have a look on the ubottu.com site
[08:44] <bazhang> removed outstanding bans, including that on mobi-sheep (all those I can see at least, am on lindbohm)
[08:59] <ikonia> make a note - indus got "told off" in #ubuntu and is now looking for reasons for other people to be told off
[09:00] <Flannel> What? where?
[09:00] <ikonia> indus got banned for a couple of days due to his attitude in #ubuntu and his stupid behaviour in -ops
[09:00] <Flannel> Right, I remember that
[09:00] <ikonia> he doesn't like this so is now trying to find reasons for others to be "told off"
[09:00] <Flannel> Ah
[09:01] <ikonia> he's comaplined about quite a few - at the time, pointless issues
[09:01] <ikonia> and made quite racist comments about it too
[09:01] <ikonia> "all westerners use foul language" etc etc
[09:01] <ikonia> (out of context)
[09:01] <ikonia> I get the impressions this is now "payback"
[10:29] <indus> ikonia: hello
[10:30] <indus> i dont recommend alternate unofficial methods of installation,but flash for 64 bit users is an exception
[10:31] <ikonia> indus: what do you wnat ?
[10:31] <ikonia> want
[10:31] <indus> dont dissuade me from recommending 64 bit flash, all users do so
[10:31] <indus> thats all
[10:31] <ikonia> indus: please don't recommend unsupported solutions without making it clear the consiquences of that solution
[10:32] <indus> i told you , the consequences in case of flash is absolute zero.
[10:32] <ikonia> no it's not
[10:32] <indus> its a plugin which if doesnt work can be easily deleted
[10:32] <indus> but it does work and its documented well by now
[10:33] <ikonia> indus: it can overwrite the existing file, if not used caefully, it is not tested with ubuntu - hence why it's not in the repos yet - it's not supported, just make it clear the situation
[10:33] <indus> ok,but cos its alpha , ubuntu will never have it in repo
[10:34] <indus> ikonia: also,my method involves moving it to new folder and not /usr/lib/mozilla
[10:34] <indus> i mean in home
[10:34] <ikonia> indus: then mention "your" method
[10:34] <indus> yes i did
[10:34] <ikonia> indus: give them clear info and explain the ramifications, and the limitations, it's not a roblem recommending it, just not as a first option and without making it cear
[10:35] <ikonia> eg: how does firefox deal with conflicting libraries in /usr/lib/mozilla and /home/$user/.mozilla
[10:35] <indus> no further comments
[10:36] <indus> you know your linux well,its good
[10:36] <ikonia> great, so please just make sure you make it clear that it's unsupported, the risks, and if possible help them through the processes
[10:36] <indus> as far as i know,having both plugins wont help, it first looks in /usr/lib,then goes to ./mozilla
[10:37] <ikonia> "as far as you know"
[10:37] <indus> ya enough for ubuntu
[10:37] <ikonia> enough for ubuntu ?
[10:37] <ikonia> indus: look - I'm clearly not making myself clear when explaining this
[10:37] <indus> i survived for 3 years with it, iam sure most others too will
[10:37] <ikonia> that's not the attitude
[10:37] <ikonia> others may not know better - others may not be "ok"
[10:37] <indus> i dont have any attitude, you seem to have some problem with me
[10:37] <ikonia> hence why I'm telling you to make sure you hilight the risks/unsupportability
[10:38] <indus> 'risk' ? can you tell me the risk of using 64 bit flash?
[10:38] <ikonia> indus: sure, it may make your browser / application unstable as it's not tested
[10:38] <ikonia> it may conflict with something else you have in
[10:38] <ikonia> it may install to theh wrong playce and overwrite your core flash library
[10:39] <indus> its tested by users isnt it? iam talking specific flash here
[10:39] <ikonia> indus: yes, but offering a solution that is unknown at this time it offering someon a "test" solultion as a solution
[10:39] <indus> well,i get your point,but i try to avoid such things
[10:39] <ikonia> just make it clear
[10:40] <indus> ok,i need to see the irc guidelines now
[10:40] <ikonia> what ??
[10:40] <ikonia> this is nothing to do with the guidelines
[10:40] <indus> yes i do,could you please
[10:40] <ikonia> !guidelines
[10:41] <ikonia> indus: please be aware that this is not a guidlines issue, this is just common sense
[10:42] <indus> so many people recommending all kinds of crazy advice on the channel,and you pick me
[10:42] <ikonia> no - I speak to anyone I see doing it,
[10:42] <indus> if you go through my history, if you find me recommending even a single unofficial solution, you can kick me again
[10:42] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[10:43] <indus> but anyways, official is not always right
[10:43] <indus> bye
[10:43] <ikonia> I've not kicked you - I'm not saying don't recommend things
[10:43] <indus> ok ok
[10:43] <indus> got it
[10:43] <ikonia> I'm just asking you to be clear about what your recommending to people - and make it clear of the risks/supportability
[10:44] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu indus Pushing flash64bit as a first option solution, not a problem but did not respond well to requests to try the official packages first unless people know what they are doing with alpha software, makes comment "0:43 < indus> but anyways, official is not always right"
[10:55] <topyli> oh. i just removed Abortionist from -ot. he is now bragging on pm that he's on the channel. turns out he's Bacta
[10:55] <jussi01> oh dear...
[10:56] <ikonia> right freenode staff for him
[10:56] <ikonia> ooh jussi01 's around perfect
[10:56] <jussi01> ikonia: pm please
[10:57] <topyli> bacta is cloaked, but has same ident and realname
[10:57] <ikonia> it's him
[10:58] <ikonia> he's trolling #christian and ban dodging in there too
[10:58] <jussi01> let me look into it.
[10:58] <topyli> bacta is still on -ot. what should we do?
[10:59] <jussi01> topyli: just leave it for now.
[10:59] <topyli> ok
[11:01] <ikonia> topyli: is he banned in -ot ?
[11:01] <topyli> Bacta? i don't know
[11:02] <jussi01> hiya njan
[11:02] <jussi01> topyli: please explain the situation to njan ;)
[11:02] <elky> we need richih
[11:02] <topyli> hi njan :)
[11:02] <elky> he knows *all* about bacta
[11:03] <ikonia> bacta is comaplined about in #freenode ona daily basis for being a troll - he admits to it on a daily basis
[11:03] <jussi01> elky: njan's the man ;)
[11:03] <ikonia> now he's rubbiing peoples face in by ban dodging and trolling channels
[11:03] <njan> topyli, howdy :)
[11:03] <jussi01> but lets just get the situation explained ;)
[11:03] <ikonia> I'm actually a little frustrated that staff don't dump this guy off once and for all
[11:03] <njan> topyli, what happened? trolled uncloaked, banned, /ns identified, re-trolled?
[11:03] <elky> njan, pretty much, yes.
[11:04] <topyli> njan: i removed a user from #ubuntu-offtopic. he pm'ed me, bragging he's still on the channel. and he is, as Bacta
[11:04] <njan> Ok. That's what it looked like. I've solved the problem, then. :)
[11:04] <elky> njan, he's a network-wide troll, been getting away with it by light-handed staff for months.
[11:04] <topyli> bacta is cloaked, Abortionist (the other one) is not. he has same ident, isp, realname
[11:05] <elky> topyli, yes, and dear thomas doesn't realise we can see all that, for some reason.
[11:05] <ikonia> he's in ##christian now flaunting it
[11:05] <jussi01> njan: so a simple remove of him should now sort it, correct?
[11:06] <ikonia> he's just left ##christian now
[11:06] <njan> jussi01, actually, it should be resolved as is.
[11:06] <njan> jussi01, but if you want to remove him, be my guest.
[11:09] <ikonia> topyli: I would remove him from -offtopic too - coming in with a nick to cause trouble does not allow his other nick to stay
[11:09] <ikonia> he clearly knows what he was doing and I personally don't think it should be allowed to stay
[11:09] <topyli> right
[11:09] <ikonia> that's my opinion
[11:09] <ikonia> in effect by using the nick bacta he is ban dodging abortinasits ban
[11:09] <njan> The ban will now affect him, which is why he's stopped talking, since it's acting as a mute.
[11:10] <njan> He won't be able to rejoin either, unless his ISP changes his hostname.
[11:10] <ikonia> in that case I'll remove him from -offtopic
[11:10] <ikonia> jussi01 is too quick
[11:10] <ikonia> kudos
[11:10] <elky> njan, keep an eye out, he knows how to reconnect.
[11:10] <topyli> yep :)
[11:10] <elky> i've dealt with this worm on a few networks :(
[11:11] <njan> elky, feel free to give me a poke if he evades the ban that way.
[11:11] <ikonia> he started quizzing me about how I knew him on linuxchix the other day - out of the blue
[11:12] <elky> yeah, just stay clear of that and ignore the cop/lawyer threats he'll dish out
[11:12] <ikonia> I'm not interested in either
[11:12] <ikonia> I have no interest in talking to him
[11:12] <ikonia> jussi01: njan thank you
[11:12] <jussi01> Im bored of him already. anything else interesting going on?
[11:13] <ikonia> wolf
[11:17] <njan> I note bacta's now in #ubuntu proper.
[11:43] <ikonia> njan: he's not banned from there unfortuanatly
[12:44] <Pici> ikonia: yes, stop being too polite.
[12:44] <ikonia> Pici: it's a fault I know
[12:46] <ikonia> Pici has opened himself up for a lecture from indus
[12:46] <ikonia> good luck
[12:47] <ikonia> jussi01: you wimp, I wanted pici to get a lecture ;)
[12:47] <ikonia> (I'm of course kidding)
[12:47] <Pici> Yeah, no one yelled at me yet about the meeting...
[12:48] <ikonia> oooh good,
[12:48] <ikonia> I've not missed that ;)
[12:48] <ikonia> Pici: make sure you have a pillow down your trouses, elky had to stop inflating her tires to attend !
[13:00] <elky> ikonia, it's ok, i went and did that tonight
[13:01] <ikonia> phew
[13:02] <elky> ikonia, for the fact that i have 4 servos within a few hundred metres of home, only only one has an air facility with a display
[13:02] <elky> two of them, the air doesn't even get to the nozzle, it exits in various places along the hose
[13:20] <ikonia> sounds rubbish
[13:56] <Pici> elky: Do you have a moment
[13:57] <elky> for what?
[13:59] <Pici> elky: re: bilbo_baggins, do you think I should have banned? I see your name attached to a lot of the history on the bantracker?
[13:59] <Pici> See -ot a few minutes ago
[14:00] <elky> you'll know soon enough if you should  have.
[14:00]  * Pici sets a new hilight
[14:46] <bazhang> what's the status of irseekbot
[14:48] <elky> bazhang, afaik it fell to bits or something.
[14:48] <bazhang> no response from 'dragonrigs' via PM
[14:48] <bazhang> elky, it just joined
[14:48] <elky> doesn't mean people are not going to try revive it
[14:49] <bazhang> okay thanks
[15:56] <YuseiDarkUmbreon> I'm banned from #ubuntu even though I never entered (in fact, I've only spent 10 minutes ever in this IRC server)
[15:57] <ikonia> YuseiDarkUmbreon: one moment please
[15:57] <Pici> YuseiDarkUmbreon: We do not allow web java irc clients on our channel due to abuse issues, please connect with a regular client or use webchat.freenode.net
[15:58] <ikonia> Pici: ahh hwell spotted - thank you
[15:58] <YuseiDarkUmbreon> Ah. Thanks.
[15:58] <Pici> Xjs|moonshine: How can we help you today?
[15:58] <ikonia> Xjs|moonshine: what's up? how can we help ?
[15:58] <Xjs|moonshine> Pici, ikonia: I was just curious about YuseiDarkUmbreon's fate
[15:59] <ikonia> Xjs|moonshine: how did you know he had a problem joining ?
[15:59] <Xjs|moonshine> ikonia: he asked in # if somebody could ask in #ubuntu why he was banned. I asked for him and was directed here
[16:00] <ikonia> I see,
[16:00] <ikonia> well he's all sorted now
[16:00] <Xjs|moonshine> obviously, yeah
[16:00] <Xjs|moonshine> see you next time, then
[16:00] <ikonia> bye
[16:01] <Pici> I've never seen anyone with +u not set +i before...
[16:03] <ikonia> yes, a few channels there
[16:45] <ikonia> hey it's swat !
[18:32] <Mamarok> Amaranth: that doesn't look much better in terms of connectivity :(
[19:18] <Pici> !guidelines > raulh
[19:25] <Flannel> oh no.  Now they're trying to change the default IRC channel
[19:26] <Pici> Flannel: What?
[19:26] <Flannel> Pici: Trying to make the IRC clients default to #ubuntu-CC
[19:26] <Pici> Flannel: Who said that where?
[19:26] <Flannel> getting the link for you
[19:27] <Flannel> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2009-August/003473.html
[19:27] <Flannel> Eh, sounds more like a RFC on a second read
[19:28] <Pici> hrm... It would have been nice to see that copied to the ubuntu-irc or irc-council mailing lists as well.
[19:29] <Flannel> Hmm, Mr Castro's penultimate comment on the bug makes it sound like he didn't read any of the previous comments
[19:29] <Mamarok> I don't think this will work out, as a lot of the loco teams do no support
[19:29] <Flannel> Mamarok: well, and the whole globalization of support is a benefit in #u
[19:29] <Mamarok> also LOCALE =! country for a lot of them neither
[19:37] <nalioth> and #ubuntu-CC does what?
[19:38] <Flannel> nalioth: country-code, LoCo team
[19:38] <nalioth> right.  that'll work fine, cuz your computer knows exactly where it is at all times
[19:39] <Flannel> I think they're going to use some black magic of empathy to do so, which is why that community bug now affects empathy for some silly reason
[19:41] <jussi01> I just love how they listen to us... the people here all the time...
[19:42] <Pici> If they really really want to spend time developing features, just have empathy hide joins/parts in channels larger than $n
[19:42] <Pici> I have my joins/parts for #ubuntu going to a separate window and the traffic in there isn't that bad without them.
[19:46] <jussi01> bingo. or just turn off joins/parts to start with.
[19:47] <Flannel> mention it on the bug report
[19:47] <Flannel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799
[19:58] <Pici> added my poorly written comment.
[20:00] <jussi01> Pici: it reads fine to me
[20:01] <Pici> jussi01: well, the process of writing it was poor :P


[00:05] <rbasak> nacc, powersj: sounds good. Thanks!
[00:31] <madLyfe> nacc: what do you think about my theory on the server installer not needing any additional software for the usb adapter?
[00:33] <ruben23> guys when i port scan my ubuntu server i seee open prot SSH - 22 and Http - 80, how do i close this somehow.?, i have firewall iptables already
[00:33] <ruben23> any iodea guys
[00:47] <nacc> madLyfe: sorry, i might have missed the theory
[00:49] <madLyfe> " <madLyfe> well thats confusing, if i never had internet, and the installer doesnt recognize the usb ethernet adapter at install, but can be manually added after install, it means the software is there already."
[00:50] <nacc> madLyfe: i'm going off what you reported before, that you didnt' have internet in the server installer
[00:50] <nacc> madLyfe: if you do, then you do.
[00:51] <nacc> madLyfe: what do you mean by 'can be manaully added after install'?
[00:52] <madLyfe> like the usb network adapter wasnt detected during install. after i installed server i was able to go in an manually add it to the network interfaces file.
[00:52] <nacc> madLyfe: so it worked on boot after install?
[00:52] <madLyfe> so the software is already there for it to run. its just not being picked up by the installer.
[00:52] <madLyfe> no
[00:52] <nacc> madLyfe: then you're not being clear :)
[00:52] <madLyfe> i had to manually configure it.
[00:52] <nacc> madLyfe: what does that specifically mean?
[00:53] <nacc> all you had to do was add it to /e/n/i ?
[00:53] <nacc> also it's about 6pm here on a friday -- i'm eod/eow. Can we pick it up on tuesday (holiday here on monday)
[00:53] <madLyfe> if i remember correctly? maybe there were some other commands but i didnt add any other software from somewhere else is what im getting at.
[00:54] <nacc> madLyfe: then what you are describing now isn't what i remember you describing for and we should start over :)
[00:54] <madLyfe> ya np. i feel ya.
[01:05] <nacc> madLyfe: just ping me on tuesday and i'll try to dedicate some more brainpower to it
[01:06] <sarnold> madLyfe: I thoght you had this thing up and running a few days ago?
[01:07] <madLyfe> ok thanks nacc!
[01:08] <madLyfe> sarnold: ya you guys got it up and running for me and that just answered the question that its possible. now i need to get it to recognize the adapter during install like everything else.
[01:08] <sarnold> madLyfe: oh? why do you want to re-do the installer step?
[01:09] <madLyfe> what do you mean re-do?
[01:09] <madLyfe> we got it running by manually configuring the adapter after a full install and after boot.
[01:13] <sarnold> like, why aren't you saying "yay time to install minecraft and start playing around"?
[01:14] <madLyfe> you can play minecraft on server?
[01:14] <madLyfe> these servers are just for mining. need quick and painless setups and push them to production.
[01:14] <sarnold> yeah running minecraft servers is big business
[01:14] <madLyfe> never played. dunno.
[01:15] <sarnold> look I don't know what people -do- with their computers :)
[01:15] <madLyfe> lol
[01:15] <sarnold> you .. use the computer to build tools to use on the computer. uh. what more do people do with them? like there's cat videos and all but this doesn't seem like a cat video kind of computer.
[01:17] <sarnold> so you've got it up and running, right? what's stopping you from installing the mining software and rolling in the dough?
[01:41] <madLyfe> sorry sarnold, i had to do the dishes and made some tea.
[01:42] <madLyfe> its not running at all. that was just a trial to see if my idea would work. and we proved it would. now to set up a bunch of them. i need the installer to function the way i want though.
[01:42] <madLyfe> thats the last part
[01:43] <madLyfe> i dont want to be manually fixing the ethernet adapter on all of these headless servers.
[01:45] <sarnold> madLyfe: so, two thoghts -- if you've got more of them, are they -all- running outside the chassis? no nics? terrible usb thing for all of them?
[01:46] <sarnold> madLyfe: .. could you just dd the one image around to all the disks and change what should be unique on them all after they're up and running?
[01:46] <madLyfe> sarnold: yep
[01:47] <madLyfe> well once i can remote into them its a breeze, as you can understand. getting the ability to remote in is my issue.
[07:49] <lordievader> Good morning


[05:24] <Schwag> anyone know how to change my default color depth from 16 to 24? its making my games screwy
[05:29] <Schwag> i cant even find my xorg.conf file o.O
[14:55] <chrowe> any know how to install edubuntu on an existing system with all it's packages. I know I can use the meta packages to install the applications but I don't see a full list of everythings
[15:01] <chrowe> does the edubuntu-desktop package install everything that comes with edubuntu?
[15:11] <highvoltage> chrowe: yep, it does indeed
[15:12] <chrowe> highvoltage: it does not mention packages like Gnome Nanny or Pessulus though
[15:12] <highvoltage> http://edubuntu.org/download provides a quick overview of meta-packages available
[15:12]  * highvoltage checks
[15:12] <highvoltage> $ apt-cache rdepends nanny
[15:12] <highvoltage> nanny
[15:12] <highvoltage> Reverse Depends:
[15:12] <highvoltage>   edubuntu-desktop
[15:13] <highvoltage> chrowe: it does on maverick, we didn't have nanny in lucid yet
[15:14] <chrowe> highvoltage: ah, yes, I was looking at lucid
[16:09] <chrowe> highvoltage: so http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/edubuntu-desktop is everything that is in the current edubuntu distro?
[16:18] <highvoltage> chrowe: it should be
[18:49] <Ahmuck-Sr> hey hey
[18:50] <Ahmuck-Sr> got a question for you guru's
[18:50] <Ahmuck-Sr> have AD for authentication, and lot's of netbooks.  user get's netbook, enters user/pass and then it authenticates with AD, then creates home directory on netbook.  possible?
[18:51] <Ahmuck-Sr> need customized menu, not default.  know where to find UNR menu defualts, not for just the logged in user?
[19:03] <highvoltage> Ahmuck-Sr: first one is possible, there's an ldap-auth-client package that mostly sets that up, I've only used it once though
[19:04] <highvoltage> custom menus on netbook, I *think* the edubuntu menueditor will work for that too


[23:42] <x_root> (libmutter0c is 'fine', points to the same version, 3.10.4)
[23:42] <k1l> x_root: ok, then try mutter-common and so on and so on to find the last package that is causing this
[23:42] <x_root> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9183252/
[23:43] <k1l> x_root: there you go.
[23:43] <k1l> x_root: its the elementary PPA that is making issues.
[23:43] <daftykins> oniongirl: it's not advisable to use HFS under Linux in write mode at all, so i'm afraid it's simply unwise. you'd be better off buying another drive
[23:43] <x_root> hm.. ppa-purge in it can solve?
[23:44] <k1l> x_root: yes. this will remove all the packages from that PPA and have you a clean version again
[23:44] <x_root> hm.. let me try
[23:44] <x_root> thanks k1l :)
[23:47] <paulzz> Is there a way to use packages from a newer Ubuntu version? Is that supported?
[23:48] <daftykins> very unwise
[23:48] <teward> paulzz: depends on the package - a lot of times though it's unwise
[23:48] <k1l> paulzz: no, that will make trouble
[23:48] <paulzz> what problems will it cause, breaking other apps?
[23:48] <Seveas> paulzz: at minimum, you should use the source and rebuild instead of using the binary package
[23:49] <Seveas> and yes, unexpected breakages can happen. What are you trying to use?
[23:49] <paulzz> why rebuild? so long as the libc versions are equal it should work (?)
[23:49] <paulzz> newer gcc, boost and libogre
[23:49] <Seveas> ohh hell no
[23:49] <paulzz> I'm not too bothered if it breaks other things in the system
[23:49] <Seveas> that has all kinds of breakage potential
[23:49] <paulzz> this is just for a build VM
[23:49] <teward> paulzz: by 'break' you'll break everything
[23:49] <teward> paulzz: why not use a newer release
[23:49] <teward> (for the VM)
[23:50] <paulzz> the VM provider only allows Ubuntu 12.04 server
[23:50] <Seveas> then get a better VM provider :)
[23:50] <paulzz> so I'm thinking just hack it by installing the 14.04 packages for the stuff I need
[23:50] <teward> paulzz: um... no
[23:51] <Seveas> for packages like gcc and boost, you'll guarantee that things *will* break in horrible ways. Upgrade.
[23:51] <teward> paulzz: kernel explosions are likely.  software won't run.  you're better off getting a better VM provider
[23:51] <teward> paulzz: alternatively, install the VM, run `do-release-upgrade`, maybe it'll slip past them
[23:51] <teward> paulzz: but if your VM provider ONLY allows Precise, i'd suggest get a new one
[23:52] <paulzz> why would a newer gcc break the kernel
[23:53] <k1l> newer gcc? oh that might break a lot of stuff.
[23:53] <zerolegend> hard to say
[23:53] <zerolegend> unstable stuff is unstable
[23:53] <x_root> it worked k1l, thank you :)
[23:53] <k1l> x_root: :)
[23:53] <nszceta> paulzz: packages from a new ubuntu version should work fine if you also install their dependencies
[23:54] <nszceta> but be careful because must not mismatch kernel modules and kernel versions
[23:54] <nszceta> in general its considered a bad practice because things can get out of hand extremely quickly
[23:54] <Seveas> nszceta: and this is where newer boost will screw things up
[23:54] <Seveas> c++ is finicky enough as is, boost is in a league of specialness all on its own
[23:54] <paulzz> well so long as these 3 packages work I'm ok with 99% of everything else breaking
[23:55] <nszceta> c++ and boost all compile down to libraries
[23:55] <Seveas> nszceta: and boost is a dependency of lots of things. All those things *will* break.
[23:55] <nszceta> I see what you mean
[23:55] <Seveas> there's a reason why gcc and boost are updated exactly once in an ubuntu life cycle: at the start. You'll have to rebuild *everything*
[23:56] <nszceta> I use LXC (linux containers) so I don't really care about my host OS
[23:56] <nszceta> this would be a perfect use case for LXC
[23:56] <paulzz> what is LXC? sounds like something I should look at
[23:56] <Seveas> or docker
[23:56] <nszceta> no
[23:57] <nszceta> docker is for single-application s
[23:57] <nszceta> LXC is a proper container
[23:57] <nszceta> an enhanced chroot with virtualized devices
[23:57] <Seveas> does lxc work on hosts that are also vm's?
[23:57] <Seveas> as paulzz is working on a vm already
[23:57] <nszceta> yes, if your host kernel supports LXC
[23:58] <nszceta> I believe you need kernel 3.3 or newer for LXC 1.x
[23:59] <Seveas> !info linux-generic precise
[23:59] <Seveas> so, bad luck for paulzz :)
[23:59] <nszceta> oh man
[23:59] <paulzz> bah


[22:52] <loki_> jhutchins: It ended up sending.  I had to send it as super user
[22:52] <k1l> !guidelines > thor_of_asgard please stick to the guidelines in here
[22:53] <bonhoeffer> crap -- on my linode (shared virtual host) i have 10.04 -- how hard is it to upgrade to 12.05 or some good LTS version
[22:53] <bonhoeffer> i'll even go to 13 -- but do i have to rebuild the server?
[22:54] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: You can upgrade between LTS versions
[22:54] <gordonjcp> bonhoeffer: LTS-to-LTS is usually safe
[22:54] <gordonjcp> bonhoeffer: make a backup, maybe
[22:54] <bonhoeffer> ok --
[22:54] <bonhoeffer> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS is my exact version
[22:55] <bonhoeffer> the way to go: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[22:55] <bonhoeffer> ?
[22:55] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: If you're enough storage space free, create a volume of equal size and then boot the Finnix recovery with both the current OS and the new volume mounted, and do a 'dd' clone, that way you have a local back-up.
[22:56] <bonhoeffer> ha -- not so easy on a virtual server
[22:56] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: Easy, I do it that way on my Linodes
[22:56] <bonhoeffer> hmm . . i need to do some research
[22:57] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: there's a lot of Linode help on the OFTC network's #linode channel
[22:58] <bonhoeffer> yeah -- i should hop over there
[23:03] <james-ubc> does anybody know why cmake would fail over ssh but not on the machine itself?
[23:04] <pvl1> env vars
[23:06] <curiousx> aloha all, anyone knows some equalizer preset for mplayer?
[23:07] <curiousx> join #mplayer?
[23:08] <loki_> jhutchins: know of any way I can have nagios send a test alert? I just want to make sure it is working.
[23:08] <mib_mib> hi all - how can i make grep do a match 'once per line', for instance grep -E 'first|second|third' somefile.txt
[23:09] <elico1_> hello I have a user at the forums but it is very old and I want to use my account again.
[23:09] <Jordan_U> elico1_: Try #ubuntuforums.
[23:09] <elico1_> thanks!
[23:10] <demophobia> How do I use the hotkey searching feature mentioned in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_9.04#Ubuntu_12.04_LTS_.28Precise_Pangolin.29 ?
[23:11] <k1l> demophobia: press the windows button?
[23:11] <demophobia> Oh, is that the heads-up display they mention? Thank you.
[23:12] <k1l> no, that is alt-key
[23:12] <demophobia> oh, i had to hold the alt key for a moment. thanks.
[23:15] <loki_> is anyone around that can help me out with nagios alerts?  I setup ssmtp and am able to send from it from the command line and I just tried to simulate an alert condition in nagios, but I received no email.
[23:16] <loki_> I believe the issue may be related to ssmtp and not necessarily nagios, but I am not certain.
[23:17] <hoodedice> Hello. I'm currently installing Xubuntu. I have 4 GB of RAM. Is a swap partition worth it with this amount of RAM?
[23:18] <jhutchins> hoodedice: Yes, it's still a good idea in case of a runaway process or something, or maybe an extra-large video file.
[23:18] <Beldar> hoodedice, If you want to hibernate yes, otherwise it's your call.
[23:18] <jhutchins> hoodedice: You also need swap if you're going to do suspend-to-disk.
[23:18] <loki_> never mind.  it is working.  just took a LLOONNNGG time to send.
[23:18] <hoodedice> Ok. Thanks a lot. I'll get a 2 GB swap just in case.
[23:18] <thor_of_asgard> anyone into manjero in here?
[23:18] <jhutchins> hoodedice: Doesn't need to be more than 4G though, and 2G is probably enough.
[23:18] <loki_> thor_of_asgard: sorry brother, not this day.
[23:18] <hoodedice> Thanks again.
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | thor_of_asgard
[23:20] <thor_of_asgard> Thanks ubottu bot. Idk what i would do without you.
[23:20] <loki_> LOL
[23:20] <syg> i am having trouble logging into ubuntu anything but the console, when i startx the login always fails 13.10, i don't know what information to provide that would be useful, so please ask
[23:20] <loki_> jhutchins: in regards to ssmtp, I do have a quick question
[23:20] <thor_of_asgard> anyone have chrome issues after 13.x upgrade?
[23:20] <jhutchins> loki_: Look at the mail logs, see if it tried to send.
[23:20] <thor_of_asgard> I had to roll back to beta
[23:20] <loki_> jhutchins: it's working.  it took forever to send is all.
[23:20] <Beldar> thor_of_asgard, There is a #manjaro channel
[23:21] <jhutchins> loki_: Logs are good.
[23:21] <thor_of_asgard> ty beldar. i will have to check that out
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> syg: do you get the lightdm screen?
[23:21] <loki_> jhutchins: yep.  that was what I did right after I wrote that question.  did a tail of the log and it said it sent.
[23:21] <loki_> jhutchins: but I am curious about something in relation to ssmtp.  specifically I think this is going to be easy, but I would like it to show the from name as something other than the email address it came from.  is there a way to do this in ssmtp?
[23:22] <syg> hitsuji, the gui login? yes, but it always fails there
[23:22] <jhutchins> loki_: I'm not sure about ssmtp, but the mailx program allows you to specify the sender, and iirc Nagios has a configuration option for who the mail appears from.
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> syg: can you log into the guest account? or is it all accounts?
[23:22] <loki_> jhutchins: thanks.  I am doing some more digging now.
[23:23] <syg> just tried guest, it works, interesting
[23:23] <jhutchins> syg: Why are you using startx instead of a dm?
[23:23] <syg> old tutorial maybe?
[23:23] <syg> start lightdm?
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> syg: have you at some stage run startx with sudo?
[23:23] <syg> i don't know the command
[23:23] <jhutchins> syg: THis often happens if you run GUI programs as root.  Check ownership on the files under $HOME
[23:24] <jhutchins> syg: chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> syg: log into your account in the cli and run: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[23:24] <jamesleimer> hello
[23:25] <k1l> syg: dont use startx, use lightdm (or any other dm). see .xsession-errors in your home for error messages
[23:26] <syg> what's the command k1l?
[23:26] <k1l> sudo lightdm start
[23:28] <syg> the chown is taking forever with no foreseeable progress
[23:29] <jhutchins> syg: What kind of stuff do you have in your home directory?
[23:29] <jhutchins> syg: I wonder if there's a corrupt file or something.
[23:29] <ejuan> hey, I'm having problems getting my AMD R7 260X video card to work correctly, I have the FGLRX experimental drivers installed from the additional drivers menu but it says "this driver is activated but not currently in use". i get the same thing when the post-release driver is installed as well. running aticonfig from the term outputs "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected". what do?
[23:30] <syg> jhutchins, besides the typical stuff like documents and downloads, i do web development, and not everything in there is chowned to me
[23:30] <syg> some is chowned to root, or WAS
[23:30] <syg> command finished
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[23:31] <gatchi> looking for information on the "click" package
[23:31] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO, "Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l"
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: whats the output of: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[23:35] <onlty> Anybody can answer to this question?? http://askubuntu.com/questions/407752/xorg-uses-only-my-integrated-card-intel-and-ignores-my-discrete-radeon-card
[23:35] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO, "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Bonaire [1002:6658]"
[23:35] <syg> success, it logged in
[23:35] <onlty> My AMD/ATI card doesn't have the capability 'vga_controller'.
[23:35] <pvl1> onlty: did u install drivers
[23:35] <pvl1> modules
[23:36] <onlty> pvl1, i am using radeon open-source driver, but if i install fglrx, direct rendering wont work
[23:36] <loki_> jhutchins: got it changed, now just need to get it to display something other than what it is displaying :D.  still working on it.
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: which experimental did you install? 13?
[23:36] <onlty> my system did claim that card but it is not using that
[23:36] <pvl1> onlty: did u run aticonfig --initial
[23:36] <onlty> pvl1, it says no supported adapters detected.
[23:37] <onlty> but i have the radeon mark on my notebook
[23:37] <onlty> pvl1, and it is displayed as "DIsplay controller" not "VGA compatible controller"
[23:37] <skinux> I installed indicator from that website, but I'm still not seeing how to access menu.
[23:37] <onlty> 01:00.0 Display controller [0380]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mars [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8750M] [1002:6600]
[23:37] <onlty> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [8086:0166] (rev 09)
[23:38] <pvl1> onlty: what settings did u select in bios for graphics
[23:38] <glitsj16> skinux: did you relogin after installing it?
[23:38] <ahmi> hey i'm trying to install ubuntu on virtualbox but i ran into a problem. it said i had an issue about 64 bit....blahzay blahzay. does anyone know what to do to fix this?
[23:38] <onlty> pvl1, no such settings like that, my bios is "American Megatrands P13RAN with Aptio Settings Utility"
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> ahmi  use 32bit to be sure
[23:39] <onlty> Very annoying that my BIOS settings utility has very few options like
[23:39] <onlty> Secure boot
[23:39] <pvl1> onlty: the thing is that linux clearly sees the radeon card
[23:39] <ahmi> you mean the initial download from ubuntu.com
[23:39] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO, I'm not sure, it doesn't say on the additional drivers page, catalyst control center shows driver package version 12.104-130328a-157784C-ATI
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> ahmi  yes, the 32bit iso
[23:39] <ahmi> ok. thank you man. i hope this works.
[23:39] <onlty> pvl1, it does see the radeon card, and it is listed in xrandr --listproviders, but it does not use it
[23:40] <pvl1> ah
[23:40] <onlty> If I force it to use the card via creating an xorg.conf file, it fails back to fallback.
[23:40] <pvl1> can you please pastebin /var/log/Xorg.log
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: looks like you installed 12 which isn't compatible with that card. you need 13
[23:40] <pvl1> and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:40] <onlty> pvl1, I dont have xorg.conf because xorg -configure wont work
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: to be sure: dpkg --get-selections | grep fglrx
[23:40] <ejuan> I had the post-release driver installed first I'm wondering if it never fully removed before the experimental got installed.
[23:40] <pvl1> onlty: why wont it work
[23:41] <onlty> pvl1, i forced my card to be load by 'radeon' module or anything which lead me to fallback.
[23:41] <glitsj16> gatchi: anything specific on the 'click' package?
[23:41] <onlty> i even tried modesetting.
[23:41] <loki_> jhutchins: got it sorted :D
[23:41] <pvl1> onlty: so you lsmod radeon already
[23:42] <ahmi> oh um...monkey dust if you're still there....should i get the latest version of ubuntu or the last one?
[23:42] <onlty> pvl1, I have radeon module and heres the pastebin :
[23:42] <onlty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6823369/
[23:43] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6823371/
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: ok you have 13 installed. thats good. lets look at the logs. pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:43] <Roland-> hello, the server version is the same as desktop, with graphs and stuff?
[23:44] <pvl1> Roland-: no
[23:44] <gatchi> glitsj16: well, anything would help, but specifically, im trying to figure out why its not marked "installable"
[23:44] <pvl1> !server | Roland-
[23:44] <onlty> pvl1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6823369/
[23:44] <Roland-> thanks
[23:44] <pvl1> already reading it onlty
[23:44] <onlty> ok
[23:44] <k1l> Roland-: its some sort of minimal install. but shares the whole packages, yes. the server install git some predefined server setups, too
[23:45] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6823376/
[23:45] <glitsj16> gatchi: i never used it personally, but i know it is available since saucy (13.10) .. trouble installing it?
[23:45] <k1l> btw, there is no server kernel anymore
[23:47] <Roland-> I was hoping for an minimal install
[23:47] <gatchi> glitsj16: yeah. added the repos for it, but cant find it.  and a dev package im trying to install requires it
[23:47] <Roland-> is that even posible?
[23:47] <k1l> Roland-: yes
[23:47] <gatchi> glitsj16: although.... i just recently updated my ubuntu install.  maybe i should try again.
[23:47] <glitsj16> gatchi: what version of ubuntu are trying to install it on?
[23:47] <Roland-> k1l any docs on it please?
[23:48] <gatchi> glitsj16: latest LTS, which i think is 12.04
[23:48] <Roland-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD gess?
[23:48] <k1l> Roland-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:48] <k1l> xes
[23:48] <k1l> yes
[23:49] <glitsj16> gatchi: it's only in the 13.10 repos .. you mentioned adding the repos .. from a PPA?
[23:49] <Roland-> I see that but the server version seem to be missing
[23:49] <gatchi> glitsj16: yeah. you can still do upgrades from software manager, right? or do i need to redownload for that much of a jump?
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: the driver does seem to be working.
[23:50] <gatchi> glitsj16: i dont think the repo was assuming id have 12.04
[23:50] <gatchi> glitsj16: er i mean, the walkthru
[23:50] <onlty> pvl1, did you finish reading it?
[23:51] <pvl1> onlty: yeah im looking into it
[23:51] <glitsj16> gatchi: check on the launchpad page for the PPA if they offer it for 12.04 .. but apparently as you're not seeing it they wont
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils && glxheads | pastebinit
[23:52] <pvl1> onlty: what kernel are you on and when did u install the opensource module
[23:52] <onlty> pvl1, I have linux-3.11.0-15-generic
[23:52] <onlty> and the default opensource module
[23:52] <glitsj16> gatchi: you can jump easier in one go to the next LTS in April, to get at 13.10 from 12.04 i'd go for a re-install
[23:53] <gatchi> glitsj16: alright.  thanks for the info & advice
[23:53] <onlty> also i have some weird, graphics artifacts (sometimes) that has horizontal short lines all over the screen and just disappears
[23:53] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO, a window popped up with a rendering of a triangle
[23:53] <ejuan> seems to be rendering ok..
[23:53] <pvl1> onlty: how did u install the module btw
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: close the window
[23:54] <onlty> pvl1, the radeon module and open source drivers were installed on ubuntu install
[23:54] <glitsj16> gatchi: perhaps you try to build it from source --> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click
[23:54] <onlty> I had a fresh install a long ago
[23:54] <pvl1> radeon is open source, did u also install fglrx onlty
[23:54] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6823426/
[23:54] <onlty> pvl1, of course i did but it does not work at all
[23:55] <pvl1> onlty: remove the amd one, and reinstall xorg-video-radeon
[23:55] <pvl1> or w.e the package is
[23:55] <onlty> pvl1, amd one is currently not installed
[23:55] <gatchi> glitsj16: definitely will at least bookmark it.  thanks.
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> ejuan: it does report that its rendering with the fglrx
[23:56] <pvl1> onlty: as long as you removed it. u said manually loading the radeon module causes you to drop to failsafe?
[23:56] <onlty> installing amd catalyst driver ***.run says that the graphics adapter is not supported blah blah blah.
[23:56] <onlty> pvl1, manually setting radeon card as LVDS1 (my first monitor) in xorg.conf
[23:57] <onlty> pvl1, if i install the fglrx module, direct render just turns off
[23:57] <demophobia> Is there a keyboard shortcut to suspend ubuntu 12.04, rather than clicking the icon in top right corner?
[23:58] <onlty> demophobia, you can also manually set it in the preferences.
[23:58] <demophobia> as described at http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/10/17/howto-suspend-ubuntu-from-terminal-or-keyboard-shortcuts/ , onlty ?
[23:58] <onlty> Dash is very useful
[23:58] <pvl1> onlty: when u set xorg.conf, do you also set Driver      "radeon"
[23:58] <onlty> pvl1, i also tried Driver "fglrx"
[23:58] <ejuan> hitsujiTMO,  thanks for looking at it. my main problem is that i can't get cgminer to find the video card. when i try to build cgminer i get   OpenCL...............: Detection overrided. GPU mining support DISABLED
[23:59] <pvl1> well right now, lets deal with radeon
[23:59] <onlty> It seems like I have two cards : intel(i915) and amd(radeon)
[23:59] <ejuan> well thats when i do ./configure not build
[23:59] <pvl1> you do
[23:59] <ejuan> so i thought it was an issue with the video card drivers
[23:59] <pvl1> onlty: mobility graphics give u "control" of discrete graphics or full graphics. is their way of saving power
[23:59] <ejuan> because aticonfig couldn't find a supported card.


[00:03] <maxb> hbeck: An updated package is currently building, which should hopefully resolve the issue
[00:06] <NielsD> is there a api in bzrlib to access the toplevel repository, in a local sandbox environmen ?
[00:22] <bignose> NielsD: what is a “local sandbox environment”? how is it different from just a normal branch?
[00:25] <NielsD> i have a repo holding a trunk, and feature1, feature2 for example, repo is initialized using bzr init-repo --no-trees
[00:25] <NielsD> and i'm looking for a way to find the repo path from trunk, or any branch in the repo
[00:26] <bignose> NielsD: from Python API, or from command-line?
[00:27] <NielsD> api
[00:27] <bignose> I don't know :-)  someone else will need to answer.
[00:27] <bignose> NielsD: you could begin looking at how ‘bzr info’ gets the repository location.
[00:28] <NielsD> yeah, that's what i'm looking at now, realized it when i thought of the cli command :)
[00:32] <bignose> chx: the code to figure out which editor to use can be seen in ‘bzrlib.msgeditor._get_editor’
[00:33] <bignose> chx: as best I can tell, the cascade is: ‘BZR_EDITOR’, global Bazaar config ‘editor’, ‘VISUAL’, ‘EDITOR’, then a sequence of defaults to try depending on the OS.
[00:34] <bignose> chx: so, I suspect the environment variables are not actually set to the values you think they are, and it's falling back to defaults.
[00:34] <chx> hrm i tried echo $BZR_EDITOR echo $VISUAL
[00:35] <chx> both came back empty
[00:35] <chx> but $EDITOR was definitely nano
[00:35] <bignose> chx: if you can understand Python, the module I mentioned is the one which decides what to do.
[00:36] <bignose> chx: so have a look, it might be different on your system (maybe the behaviour changed between the versions we're running
[00:40] <chx> bignose: i understnad Python but  i can't write Python, i will check
[02:12] <maxb> hbeck: There's an updated qbzr package in bzr/proposed that should help
[02:14] <hbeck> maxb: thanks, I'll take a look
[17:04] <DrHalan> hey, i need some help setting up a bzr server
[17:07] <maxb> DrHalan: OK, what sort of help and what sort of server?
[17:09] <DrHalan> i have a remote linux (ubuntu) server i access via ssh and i want to setup a bzr repository on that remote server to backup my code
[17:16] <maxb> If Bazaar and SSH are both installed on the server, you do not need to do anything at all to start using bzr+ssh://user@host/path URLs
[17:21] <DrHalan> sorry my xserver crashed :/
[17:23] <DrHalan> are there any good tutorials on how to setup a bzr server?
[17:23] <DrHalan> maybe someone already answered it but i lost the conversation due to the crash...
[17:27] <maxb> If Bazaar and SSH are both installed on the server, you do not need to do anything at all to start using bzr+ssh://user@host/path URLs
[17:29] <DrHalan> i just init a bzr repostiory on the server and then i can push to it ?
[17:30] <maxb> Yes, and you don't even have to be on the server for the init step
[17:30] <maxb> You can run bzr init-repo with a remote URL
[17:31] <maxb> Technically you don't even need to create a repository first (in the absence of a shared repository each branch uses an internal repository) but it's usually advisable to take advantage of the space and bandwidth savings
[17:37] <DrHalan> maxb, thats pretty straightforward :) and how do i add an ssh key to a new user on the server? (don't want to use the rootuser to push to my server)
[17:39] <maxb> Did you intend anything bzr-specific in that question, or are you asking about generic OpenSSH usage?
[17:39] <DrHalan> guess its a generic openssh question
[17:40] <maxb> So, create the user, add the public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
[17:40] <DrHalan> okay :)


[13:57] <hd_chro321> hello,everyone
[13:58] <hd_chro321> I am newer to ubuntu, I donot know if here is correct to answer my question
[13:58] <hd_chro321> I am newer to ubuntu, I donot know if here is correct to ask my question
[14:00] <hd_chro321> Today, I updated my ubuntu 14.04 use cli apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade
[14:01] <hd_chro321> but after I update done, I found when I reboot my ubuntu 14.04 server, my golang application cannot start
[14:02] <hd_chro321> my golang application start command have not change, it is alike "sudo /usr/bin/mtunneld &"
[14:03] <hd_chro321> but whatever I modify start script /etc/rc.local, these golang application cannot automatic start again after I reboot my ubuntu VPS
[14:04] <hd_chro321> but I login to ubuntu 14.04 ssh console, manually run these golang application, it run ok
[14:05] <hd_chro321> please give me some tips, how this occure after I upgrade ubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:07] <hd_chro321> I googled found none related to the problem
[14:32] <mati75> hd_chro321: join to #ubuntu
[14:32] <hd_chro321> thank mati75
[14:44] <Ashiren> omelette du fromage
[18:16] <r00t_x> dobry wieczór
[18:40] <totalizator> is it?