[08:27] <rodrigo_> morning
[08:28] <chrisccoulson> hi rodrigo_, how are you?
[08:29] <rodrigo_> hi chrisccoulson
[11:22] <tkamppeter> pitti, hi
[11:52]  * rodrigo_ lunch
[12:23] <sroecker> pedro_: hi, got a backtrace in bug #883006 for you
[12:27] <tkamppeter> pitti, hi
[12:29] <pedro_> sroecker, awesome, thanks!
[12:29] <pedro_> sroecker, looking at it now
[12:30] <sroecker> pedro_: thanks a lot.
[13:10] <jbicha> RAOF: ping
[14:06]  * rodrigo_ goes to pack for orlando
[16:36] <pulb> m4n1sh: many thanks for the oneiric zeitgeist-data package!
[16:36] <m4n1sh> pulb: :)
[16:36] <m4n1sh> pulb: monodevelop done :)
[16:37] <pulb> great, let's include it :-D
[16:38] <m4n1sh> included
[16:38] <m4n1sh> will be available in next release soon
[16:38] <m4n1sh> working on pinta datasource package
[16:39] <pulb> monodevelop will be pretty useful for me, thanks again :-)
[21:33] <RAOF> jbicha: Pong?
[23:52] <jbicha> RAOF: I'm curious about the totem oneiric-proposed rejection, does building the zeitgeist plugin really count as a new feature?


[12:07] <Mez> iso files dont have a mime tpye do they
[12:07] <Riddell> they must do
[12:07] <Riddell> they have an icon
[12:07] <Mez> http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=iso
[12:08] <Riddell> application/x-iso says Konqueror's file associations
[12:09] <Mez> [Desktop Entry]
[12:09] <Mez> Type=MimeType
[12:09] <Mez> Patterns=*.iso;*.ISO
[12:09] <Mez> MimeType=application/x-iso
[12:10] <Mez> I cant find how to make them open with a certain app though
[12:12] <Riddell> add MimeType= to k3b.desktop
[12:17] <pef> bye !
[01:09] <Mez> Riddell: still here?
[01:10] <Mez> Riddell, ping
[01:12] <Riddell> Mez: hi
[01:13] <Mez> want that latest version of k3b?
[01:13] <Riddell> go on then
[01:13] <Mez> lemme upload
[01:13] <Mez> gimme 5 mins
[01:13] <Riddell> Mez: want a mention in the lugradio dot.kde.org news article?
[01:14] <Mez> if you want to mention me :D
[01:14] <Riddell> I need an angle
[01:14] <Mez> what would i be mentioned for though
[01:14] <Mez> ...?
[01:15] <Mez> how do you mean an "angle?"
[01:15] <Riddell> well I can't just say "Mez was there"
[01:15] <Riddell> needs to be a reason for mentioning you
[01:16] <Riddell> "Mez was persuaded to adopt the k3b packages for Kubuntu"
[01:16] <Mez> lol - well you could mention I was one of the only people to leave the lighting talks room to come see you on the main stage (in fact the only person)
[01:16] <Riddell> that's shocking, who was speaking in the other room?
[01:16] <Mez> or that due to lugradio, I became a member of ubuntu and am heading to becoming a maintainer :P
[01:17] <Mez> whoever was meant to be on before you
[01:17] <Mez> one sec lemme find out
[01:18] <Mez> to be fair dude, you bombed on stage
[01:18] <Mez> Drew Mclellan was in lihting talks room
[01:19] <Riddell> who's he?
[01:19] <Riddell> can't be as cool as me, I've never heard of him
[01:19] <Mez> guy who developed XMLHTTPRequest (aka Ajax)
[01:20] <Mez> or at least is a leading expert in it
[01:20] <Mez> http://www.allinthehead.com/about/
[01:20] <Riddell> oh.  guess he's got a certain coolness then
[01:20] <Mez> lol :d
[01:21] <Mez> god the up speed is slow here... can twait to get back to my 4MBps line :d
[01:22] <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/dev/ = 0.12.2-0ubuntu1
[01:22] <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/dev/ = k3b0.12.2-0ubuntu1 *
[01:23] <Mez> shoot... can you add to the changelog about the iso thing
[01:23] <Riddell> sure
[01:23] <Mez> I forgot to :D
[01:28] <Riddell> Mez: it doesn't contain any patch for iso
[01:28] <Mez> shoot... i edited file directly :D
[01:28] <Mez> one sec
[01:33] <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/k3b.dev/ = k3b-0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (when it's done uplaoding)
[01:33] <Mez> (aka dont download any .part files ;)
[01:34] <Mez> lol - it's just uploading orig.trar.gz now
[01:34] <Mez> which you have already
[01:42] <Mez> Riddell: uploaded - go for it
[01:42] <Mez> Riddell, if you're getting rid of KControl... then what about all the stuff that depends on it?
[01:43] <Riddell> Mez: kcontrol will still be there, kde-systemsettings depends on it
[01:43] <Riddell> just won't be in the menu
[01:43] <Mez> fair enough :d
[01:43] <Mez> any chance of a copy of your shineh thing ?
[01:44] <Mez> a test for hoary (and to put into backports-extras if you want?)
[01:44] <Riddell> of my what?
[01:47] <Mez> your kcontrol replacement
[01:47] <Riddell> kde-systemsettings in breezy
[01:48] <Riddell> might need a breezy version of unsermake not sure
[01:49] <Riddell> Mez: that's k3b uploaded thanks.  keep an eye on its buildlogs and test it once it's built
[01:49] <Mez> will do :D
[01:49] <Mez> who you beddign?
[01:52] <Mez> Riddell... really weird, but there's no files there for it
[01:53] <Mez> ah it got promoted to main
[02:36] <froud> mart: ping
[02:38] <froud> Ok I have now tried but upgrade and dist-upgrade and I am unable to get my machine to run x
[02:40] <froud> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg says /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-org is not installed
[02:40] <froud> and that after an apt-get upgrade
[02:40] <froud> kdm is there
[02:40] <froud> which is better than what I am left with after a dist-upgrade
[02:41] <froud> So the question is how the hell to get a working Kubuntu on breezy?
[02:42] <Riddell> froud: start kdm?
[02:44] <froud> restarting
[02:44] <froud> I had a typo in sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:44] <froud> and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart stopped and started kdm
[02:45] <froud> now reboot
[02:46] <froud> no get back to console
[02:48] <froud> Riddell: this is dumb.  I did an upgrade on Ubuntu and it works. I do the same things on Kubutuntu and it does not!
[02:50] <froud> Riddell: to upgrade to breezy development branch must the system be at 3.4.1
[02:54] <froud> Ok somebody please explain the process for upgrading from hoary to breezy
[02:55] <Riddell> froud: when did you do the ubuntu upgrade?
[02:57] <froud> about a week ago
[02:58] <froud> I think
[02:58] <froud> since then I have been trying to do the same for kubuntu
[02:58] <froud> 1. I install new Kubuntu from the haory cd
[02:59] <froud> 2. I change hoary repos's in sources.list to breezy
[02:59] <froud> 3. I sudo apt-get update in Konsole
[02:59] <froud> 4. I sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:59] <froud> at first I was doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:00] <froud> but that was not working, mart suggests do only upgrade
[03:00] <froud> seems that method also does not work
[03:00] <froud> perhaps somebody could do this procedure and if they dont get the same result then it must be dumb me
[03:01] <Riddell> what's the error that you get?
[03:01] <froud> Well in both cases its a bunch of errors
[03:01] <Riddell> go on
[03:02] <froud> can t give you the exact now cause the host is now trying another upgrade
[03:02] <mdz> Riddell: have you tested Kubuntu CD builds recently?
[03:03] <froud> Riddell: in all cases when I restart the machine I am brough to console prompt
[03:03] <froud> cannot startx
[03:05] <froud> oh sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm says dpkg-reconfigure not installed
[03:06] <Riddell> mdz: there are no recent kubuntu CD builds, kamion hasn't been making them
[03:06] <mdz> Riddell: he just told me that they have been enabled
[03:06] <froud> Riddell: I just did it from the iso on the download
[03:06] <froud> but that was downloaded about a week back, its the same ISO from hoary release
[03:07] <mdz> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050705/ looks quite recent
[03:08] <Riddell> mdz: excellent, time for a wget then
[03:08] <froud> Riddell: do you have a spare box, try it I downloaded on 29/06
[03:08] <Riddell> froud: I'll try the daily build from last night
[03:09] <froud> Riddell: OK will do, but it will take some time to download
[03:09] <Riddell> froud: rsync
[03:09] <Riddell> rsync is nice for CDs
[03:10] <mdz> Riddell: there are also recent live CDs, but it seems that the filesystem in them might be old and broken
[03:49] <tvo> Riddell: I'm now playing with regexp searches, though it appears to be quite impossible to pass certain construct through konqueror into the ioslave
[03:51] <Riddell> tvo: is regexp that useful compared to just shell wildcards?
[03:51] <tvo> Riddell: for example, "foo[^/] bar" gives an error because konqueror thinks it has to look for a directory foo[^/ or something...
[03:51] <tvo> Riddell: I think not, unless it's quite easy to implement :)
[03:52] <tvo> Riddell: so I drop regexps and just add wildcards "*" and "?" ?
[03:53] <tvo> Riddell: btw, I got 3 working, I'm going to make 3 screenies and attach them to the wiki or something...
[03:54] <Riddell> depends what people would use, I suspect I'd never use regexps
[03:56] <tvo> Riddell: also, someone who knows regexp probably isn't afraid of commandline, so he/she can just do locate -are by himself/herself
[03:57] <tvo> s/-are/-r/
[03:57] <Riddell> yep
[03:58] <Riddell> tvo: http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/contextsearch.png
[03:58] <Riddell> that should be extended to be able to search for files
[03:58] <Riddell> and default to files when in filemanager mode
[04:03] <tvo> Riddell: they are the same plugins as the searchbox top right in konqueror ?
[04:03] <Riddell> tvo: what are?
[04:04] <tvo> the search plugins I see in your screenshot
[04:04] <tvo> Riddell: on my place, locate is already the default, though I don't know for which profiles
[04:11] <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/1.png
[04:11] <tvo> also 2.png and 3.png
[04:13] <mart> froud: still here
[04:13] <froud> yep
[04:13] <froud> :-) barely
[04:14] <mart> re dist-upgrade vs upgrade
[04:14] <froud> yep
[04:14] <mart> I only meant to suggest you consider which one to use before you upgrade
[04:15] <mart> I didn't mean that upgrade was the most appropriate in that case
[04:15] <mart> only that it definately wouldn't have removed stuff
[04:15] <froud> mart: does it matter, they should both work and dist-upgrade should not have left the host in that state
[04:15] <froud> sure
[04:15] <froud> I understand
[04:15] <mart> but they do different things
[04:16] <mart> upgrade shouldn't have necessarily done what you wanted
[04:16] <froud> yes, dist-upgrade is the correct route, right?
[04:16] <mart> but yes, I agree dist-upgrade shouldn't have barfed
[04:16] <froud> So I wonder how ppl with hoary cd's will be able to dist-upgrade
[04:16] <froud> perhaps this problem will be fixed by release
[04:17] <mart> froud: dist-upgrade (allegedly) does its best to get the latest versions of most of your software
[04:17] <mart> even if that means deleting stuff
[04:17] <mart> otoh, upgrade is supposed to be safe
[04:17] <mart> but you don't neccessarily get the latest version of everything
[04:18] <mart> froud: what happens when you aptitude install kubuntu-desktop now?
[04:18] <froud> sure, understood, which is why I did not use it in the first place, thinking that dist-upgrade was the way to go. I am downloading a new breezy iso
[04:18] <froud> mart: it cant do it
[04:18] <mart> btw, aptitude dist-upgrades are supposed to be more reliable that apt-get dist-upgrades
[04:19] <froud> dependancies on amorok and some stuff
[04:19] <froud> Hmm I thought aptitude was just another frontend to apt
[04:19] <mart> ok, so maybe you'll have to manually work around it if those packages, force them if necessary
[04:20] <mdz> aptitude dist-upgrade is different; it is sometimes better and sometimes not
[04:20] <froud> dunno, to me the whole upgrade thing is borked. gimme yast anyday :-)
[04:20] <mdz> ha, ha, ha
[04:21] <mart> froud: if you'd read what it said it was going to delete! :P
[04:21] <froud> Hmm well kinda hard to scoll back on the console
[04:21] <mart> shift up
[04:21] <mart> shift page-up, even
[04:22] <mart> just dont swap vt
[04:22] <froud> and besides, the point is that it should not be leaving me in the console. If it is then the system is borked
[04:22] <froud> basically, I dont think anyone tested it
[04:22] <froud> they just assumed it would work
[04:22] <mart> ok, so are you going to say *which* dependencies are broken, so someone can look at it?
[04:22] <froud> not good because dummie slike me who just write docs get caught
[04:23] <mart> "something about amarok" isn't particularly specific.
[04:23] <froud> mart: you want me to copy the stuf fon the screen. I will be typing all day
[04:23] <froud> people should just do the steps I did and test it
[04:24] <froud> much faster imho
[04:24] <froud> take a hoary cd and do it yourself
[04:24] <froud> see whathappens
[04:24] <froud> the amount of stuff on the screen is too much for me to try and explain on an irc or even an email
[04:25] <froud> anyway, hopefully the breezyiso will work
[04:25] <mart> what does apt-get install amarok say
[04:25] <mart> ?
[04:25] <mart> or rather does it work?
[04:29] <froud> hard to say now since I am trying another upgrade
[04:29] <mart> ok
[04:29] <froud> mart: why dont you just download an iso from 29/06 and see?
[04:29] <mart> am grabbing it now
[04:29] <mart> hope qemu is packaged
[04:30] <mart> bah, it's old
[04:30] <froud> what the iso
[04:30] <froud> or qemu :-)
[04:30] <froud> hey Soneras
[04:31] <mart> qemu
[04:31] <Soneras> hi there :)
[04:32] <froud> mart: just so you understand, I just write docs, I don't spend much time programming or phathoming why things don't work :-) just no time or patience for that, unless it directly impacts on the document I am writing and I must explain it.
[04:33] <froud> But its hard to write docs for a gui you can't see :-)
[04:33] <mart> yeah, I've saw the docs
[04:37] <froud> mart: better to focus on one thing than do all things
[04:37] <mart> froud: wonder if you're talking about my thesis? :)
[04:39] <froud> heh heh, what are you writing about?
[04:39] <mart> I'm supposed to be writing my progress report...
[04:40] <mart> but I don't seem to be making much progress
[05:26] <mart> anyone remember the name of the package that generates 'dummy' packages to satisfy dependencies?
[05:30] <mart> (equivs)
[05:52] <froud> mart: so you have the same problem, it's not just me
[05:52] <froud> please say so, so I feel better :-)
[05:53] <mart> froud: no, I haven't got that far yet
[05:53] <froud> ok
[05:53] <mart> dependency problem was qemu :)
[06:04] <Mez> incase anyones interested-  I put kde-systemsettings in the backports hoary-extras :D
[06:35] <froud> Mez: has anything changed? Please see http://lnix.net/~froud/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[06:38] <Mez> ....?
[06:53] <froud> Mez: if you know of things changed from what is shown there ^
[06:54] <Mez> I avent looked at it myself
[06:54] <Mez> why not download it and try it?
[06:54] <froud> I have installed it
[06:54] <froud> but not from backports
[06:55] <Mez> well i just grabbed the copy from breezy and compiled for hoary
[06:56] <froud> yes Riddell guided me through the process when I installed in for myself :-)
[07:11] <froud> Ok downloaded last nights breezy iso and gues what is does not want to load kernel modules and for my network it says I have a firewire interface that I dont have.
[07:13] <mart> froud: it must be you. kubuntu hates you. :)
[07:13] <froud> dude 5.04 install beautifully on the same machine
[07:14] <froud> argh!!!!
[07:14] <froud> No kernel modules and cant load any on the cd
[07:14] <froud> dudes this iso is wacked
[07:15] <froud> speaks about installing a different version of ubuntu
[07:15] <mart> hmm, hang on....
[07:15] <mart> I wrote a CD that just didn't work, it only worked when I got someone else to burn it...
[07:16] <froud> what?!!!
[07:16] <mart> dodgy cd coincidence? or dodgy iso somewhere?
[07:16] <froud> nah this is not good, do people check these iso files or do they just like wating peoples bandwidth
[07:16] <mart> it couldn't be... could it?
[08:57] <hunger> Riddell: scribus is in kubuntu, isen't it?
[08:58] <hunger> Riddell: Maybe you could help malex (debian maintainer for it) over in ubuntu-devel.
[08:58] <Riddell> hunger: not on the CD (no room) but I think in supported
[08:58] <hunger> Riddell: It is in main...
[08:59] <Riddell> cool, (I just installed MEPIS)
[08:59] <hunger> Riddell: Could you talk to malex over in ubuntu-devel? He is the debian maintainer, trying to contact his ubuntu-peer.
[08:59] <hunger> Riddell: I'd be surprised if that wasn't you;-)
[09:00] <Riddell> hunger: that's me all right, thanks for the poke
[09:00] <Riddell> this MEPIS thing is evil, no source packages
[09:06] <Soneras> Riddell: looking into the mepis center? I'm not sure if you'll finde sources without contacting the devs
[09:07] <Soneras> though the installer it has could be nice for a live-to-hdd install. used mepis for a while
[09:09] <mart> how did froud-away say he tried to install kubuntu? just by going from ubuntu cd installation, then apt-cdrom add or something?
[09:11] <Riddell> mart: he installed from the daily install kubuntu CD
[09:11] <Riddell> which I'll do later on too
[09:11] <Riddell> Soneras: but there's no deb-src line at all for the mepis packages
[09:13] <Soneras> doubt it even exists. didn't when I used it only deb-src where the standard debian (testing/unstable) ones. Maybe you'd have some luck contacting the author - warren.
[09:13] <mart> Riddell: I thought he said he'd tried to migrate from ubuntu before that?
[09:13] <Riddell> yes he did a dist upgrade from hoary previously
[09:14] <mart> to breezy? or to 5.04?
[09:16] <Riddell> mart: breezy
[09:16] <mart> ah, ok
[09:22] <Mez> hey riddell, you here?
[09:24] <Riddell> Mez: yes
[09:25] <Mez> k3b build was fine... and mind looking over a universe package/uploading for me (tis only wee)
[09:25] <Riddell> Mez: what is it?
[09:25] <Mez> gaim-assistant
[09:25] <Mez> just a lib for gaim
[09:25] <Riddell> sounds non-kde
[09:26] <Mez> yeah, it is non KDE.... but it's a v v simple package (just install a .so fie)
[09:27] <Riddell> Mez: new or existing
[09:27] <Mez> new
[09:27] <Riddell> Mez: needs reviewing
[09:27] <Mez> yeah, by MOTU people ...
[09:28] <Mez> and I've no idea how to get it reviewed
[09:28] <Riddell> Mez: get an account on REVU and upload there
[09:28] <Mez> REVU ?
[09:28] <\sh> http://siretart.tauware.de/revu
[09:29] <uniq> hi guys.
[09:30] <Mez> how do i get an account on there?
[09:31] <uniq> it's explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU
[09:31] <\sh> revu is just broken, ping siretart
[09:31] <Mez> ok :D
[09:32] <\sh> or sistropy
[09:34] <Mez> but only siretart can add me to the keyring?
[09:34] <\sh> or sistropy
[09:35] <Mez> hmm... :D
[09:35] <Mez> IRCbot ... I can help with that :D
[09:35] <Mez> well... I think - not tried writing one in python yet, just PHP
[09:36] <\sh> mez: ircbots are eval in a special way
[09:36] <Mez> ...?
[09:37] <\sh> evil ;)
[09:37] <Mez> you mean evil ?
[09:37] <\sh> not eval
[09:37] <Mez> yeah they are :D
[09:37] <Mez> lol
[09:37] <Mez> but I've made a couple of nice ones in PHP
[09:37] <\sh> i just ping siretart on irc and icq
[09:37] <\sh> php for cli is much more evil then shell ,-)
[09:38] <\sh> I have to say it, but I'm just a php dev
[09:39] <Mez> lol - not really... I just made it into a loop and then sit on a channel...
[09:40] <Mez> to be fair, you could quite easily just put an eggdrop on somewhere, and get it to read from a file for announces etc
[09:40] <\sh> eggdrop is the dangrouse thing ever
[09:42] <Mez> lol yeah
[09:42] <Mez> it was a suggestion
[09:42] <Mez> does ircssi allow scripts?
[09:43] <allee> \sh: ping?
[09:43] <\sh> pong
[09:44] <allee> \sh: hi
[09:44] <\sh> allee: you r the one with all the patches from debian, right?
[09:44] <allee> \sh: why did you add c2 to libkexif? 11567
[09:44] <allee> #11567
[09:44] <allee> \sh: all the patches?  pardon?
[09:45] <\sh> allee: forget just confused
[09:45] <\sh> let me check
[09:45] <allee> \sh I feel honoured nevertheless.  Please stay confused ;)
[09:45] <\sh> yeah :)
[09:47] <\sh> boah...something is wrong with the bloody computer today
[09:48] <\sh> i think because it was on the list
[09:48] <\sh> cxx trans
[09:49] <\sh> una momementa
[09:50] <\sh> back
[09:51] <\sh> Riddell: can it be, that kdelibs4 now is completly crazy?
[09:55] <allee> \sh c++ trans is one thing but libkexif did depend on kdelibs4.
[09:56] <\sh> yes :)
[09:57] <\sh> is pipi-plugins an external package?
[09:57] <\sh> kipi sorry ;)
[09:58] <allee> kipi-plugins Enhances: digikam, gwenview, kimdaba and showimg ;)
[09:58] <allee> external in what sense?
[09:58] <\sh> yepp...and libkexif is a rdepend to it
[09:59] <allee> yeah, digikam and kipi-plugins and AFAIR showview rdepend on it
[09:59] <allee> s/showview/showimg/
[10:00] <\sh> thats why it was transisition
[10:01] <allee> did ubuntu add c2 to all rdepends of kdelibs? (unlike debian will do)
[10:02] <\sh> no...all cxx libs which were compiled with g++4
[10:02] <\sh> actually doko managed it here , so debian will have it too and debian will have less work with all the packages
[10:02] <Riddell> \sh: what's wrong with it?
[10:03] <\sh> riddell: konqui is stucking in between
[10:03] <Riddell> stucking?
[10:03] <\sh> it stops for 10 seconds, work again
[10:03] <\sh> stops etc
[10:03] <Riddell> hmm
[10:03] <Riddell> well I'll see when I install this daily kubuntu CD
[10:04] <allee> \sh okay, so no lex KDE in ubuntu (as doko announced in debian-devel-announce)
[10:04] <\sh> no lex KDE?
[10:05] <allee> \sh nitpicking: and why libkipi0 and not libkipi0c2 ;)  I fail to see the difference between the two :(
[10:05] <\sh> allee: can be, that we forgot it...if it's c++ we should do it
[10:05] <\sh> if so, please put it on the wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxLibraryList)
[10:06] <allee> \sh: both c++ and kdelibs
[10:06] <Riddell> only kdelibs4 got a c2 on the end, anything else depends on that and so doesn't need one
[10:06] <\sh> kdelibs4 are already transed
[10:06] <\sh> riddell: libkexif stand on the list
[10:06] <\sh> sometimes I'M a machine
[10:06] <Riddell> "stand on the list"?
[10:07] <\sh> written on the list
[10:07] <\sh> denglish at it's best
[10:09] <allee> Riddell:  CxxLibraryList lists both libkipi and libkexif.  both are in hoary compiled against kdelibs4c2. libkipi -> libkipic2, but libkipi->libkipi
[10:09] <allee> afaiu in debian because they depend on kdelibs4 the pkg name will not be changes, sh told me ubuntu adds always a c2 --> libkipi got no c2
[10:10] <\sh> grmpf
[10:10] <\sh> i will revert the changes
[10:11] <allee> \sh now i'm confused.  Scrolled CxxLibraryList to the right and there are lots of 'KDE, not renamed'
[10:12] <\sh> allee: yeah, and if u check for libkexif there is no kde ...
[10:12] <\sh> this cxx trans stuff will f*ck my brains out
[10:12] <allee> \sh but  it's c++ and links against kdelibs
[10:13] <\sh> allee: check my buglist on bugzilla, i wasn't really looking on the b-d for some packages...:(
[10:14] <allee> \sh so I add KDE to libkipi in wiki and add a note to #11567, right?
[10:14] <Riddell> \sh is wrong
[10:14] <\sh> allee: please do
[10:14] <allee> Riddell: he does not need holidays?
[10:14] <\sh> I will revert the patch
[10:14] <allee> \sh 'k
[10:15] <Riddell> well he's wrong saying ubuntu adds c2 to kde libraries, and he's wrong that he need holidays because then who would be our top KDE MOTU?
[10:16] <\sh> ok..1. riddell is right...2. he's wrong and 3. I'm not the KDE MOTU, you are
[10:16] <\sh> actually i need holidays or sex, one of the two ;)
[10:16] <\sh> reverting patch now
[10:17] <\sh> allee: sorry for the chaos
[10:18] <allee> \sh no problem at all
[10:19] <\sh> Uploading via ftp libkexif_0.2.1-2ubuntu2.dsc: done.
[10:19] <\sh> Uploading via ftp libkexif_0.2.1-2ubuntu2.diff.gz: done.
[10:19] <\sh> Uploading via ftp libkexif_0.2.1-2ubuntu2_source.changes: done.
[10:19] <\sh> done
[10:20] <allee> \sh your quick like hell ;)  so I don't ask who to reopen a bug ;)
[10:20] <\sh> libkexif_0.2.1-2ubuntu2_source.changes ACCEPTED
[10:20] <\sh> allee: forget it :)
[10:20] <\sh> edit wiki page as well ;)
[10:21] <allee> okay, good CxxLibraryList is huge no fun to edit ;)
[10:21] <\sh> done as well
[10:21] <\sh> and all this stress after a couple of beers ;)
[10:22] <allee> some more beers will help now ;)
[10:22] <\sh> take a guess whats in my hand just right now ;)
[10:23] <Mez> \sh ... ew... we dont want to know
[10:24] <\sh> *grmpf* now I forgot to save the email address of my girl
[10:24] <\sh> damn
[10:24] <allee> \sh: Alt-f2 kaddressbook
[10:24] <allee> +?
[10:25] <Riddell> \sh is soo dumped
[10:25] <\sh> you see Riddell you see I NEED HOLIDAYS
[10:25] <\sh> and I need to get ace from my ass
[10:25] <\sh> any volunteers?
[10:26] <Mez> to get the ace from your ass?
[10:26] <Riddell> I don't know what that means, and I probably don't want to
[10:26] <Mez> nor do i :D
[10:26] <Mez> \sh... how cna you not know your girls email address?
[10:26] <\sh> mez: check cxxliblist
[10:26] <Mez> didnt you like - meet her ?
[10:27] <Mez> y?
[10:27] <Mez> meet her via the net 87
[10:27] <\sh> mez: I met her today...this is  not the problem
[10:27] <Mez> ah lol
[10:28] <Mez> \sh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxLibraryList ?
[10:28] <\sh> but I had her mail address in my c&p buffer
[10:28] <\sh> yepp
[10:28] <Riddell> \sh: you just met her and you lost her address?  you'll regret that for the rest of your life
[10:29] <\sh> Riddell: no..not her address, her email address :) i know where she's living.
[10:29] <Mez> \sh ...
[10:29] <Mez> kclipboard
[10:29] <Mez> sorry
[10:29] <Mez> klipper :D
[10:29] <Mez> it keeps a c&p history
[10:29] <\sh> mez: yes, but not firefox
[10:29] <Mez> ...?
[10:30] <\sh> ah it's not there anymore
[10:30] <Mez> klipper keeps it no matter where you copy it from
[10:30] <\sh> na...
[10:30] <Mez> does for me
[10:30] <\sh> forget it...will ask her again
[10:33] <Riddell> \sh: what's the gossip, how did you meet?
[10:33] <\sh> riddell: I blogged about the CSD last saturday, right?
[10:34] <\sh> and here in cologne, it's not allowed to pee next to the street
[10:34] <Riddell> don't recall
[10:34] <Riddell> Christophers Street Day
[10:34] <\sh> so we have a special "force" from the municipalty they're coming and catching those guys and gals who are peeing next to the public toilets ;)
[10:34] <\sh> she catched me
[10:35] <\sh> normally it costs 30 euros or something :) but she asked me to have lunch with her
[10:35] <Riddell> and you say "if you don't report me I'll make you some kubuntu packages"
[10:35] <Riddell> even better :)
[10:35] <karthik_r085> Riddell: Hey
[10:35] <\sh> quite surprised :)
[10:35] <Riddell> karthik_r085: dood!
[10:36] <\sh> Riddell: and today I had lunch with her :) she's hotter then hell
[10:36] <Riddell> karthik_r085: what are your skills?
[10:37] <karthik_r085> Riddell: Languages: C, C++, C#, Java, Ruby, Matlab, SAS
[10:38] <allee> \sh  instead having to pay 30 Euro you were invited for lunch?  You're kidding!!!!  Well, maybe .., please post a photo of you ;)
[10:38] <Riddell> karthik_r085: would you be able to test the ruby packages in breezy?
[10:38] <\sh> alle: u r german?=
[10:38] <karthik_r085> Riddell: Database: SQL, PL/SQL, Access, JDBC, Web: JavaScript, Java Applets, HTML, XML, JSP, I also know SPARC assembly language
[10:39] <allee> \sh yes
[10:39] <\sh> allee: http://shermann.blogweb.de/ you will find anything and everyting about me;)
[10:39] <karthik_r085> Riddell: Yes, I can.
[10:42] <karthik_r085> Riddell: I am familiar with Ruby testing tools, such as Test::Unit, Watir and ZenTest
[10:42] <Riddell> karthik_r085: well they're in breezy now so if you could install them and run some test KDE ruby apps to make sure they work that would be great
[10:43] <karthik_r085> Riddell: I do not have breezy Colony 2 yet installed. I will install today and start testing them asap.
[10:44] <Riddell> karthik_r085: rocking
[10:44] <Riddell> karthik_r085: do you know how to make debian packages?
[10:44] <\sh> allee: lach :)
[10:45] <karthik_r085> Riddell: Is there some specific tools you want me to test the packages with? Also, is there any package that needs to be completed first?
[10:45] <allee> 'liebe ist' . 'liebe pisst' 'and die Eck' 'und dann weg' ...
[10:45] <Riddell> karthik_r085: it just needs confirmed that it is usable, so grad any KDE Ruby program and make sure it runs
[10:45] <karthik_r085> Riddell: No. I do not know how to make debian packages. I can learn them soon.
[10:47] <karthik_r085> Riddell: Ok
[10:47] <Riddell> karthik_r085: if you're looking for something to package KCall looks interesting
[10:48] <Riddell> karthik_r085: this is a good read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide
[10:48] <tvo> Riddell: if you've got some time to spare, here is a snapshot of kio_locate: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/kio-locate-alpha-050705.tar.gz
[10:48] <Riddell> karthik_r085: and you can add to that guide as you find things missing
[10:50] <Riddell> tvo: it's on my TODO list, poke me if I don't get round to it soon
[10:50] <tvo> Riddell: thanks, it supports searches like "locate:foo*bar !.h", with cmdline equivalent: "locate -i -r foo[^/] *bar | grep -v .h"
[10:51] <karthik_r085> Riddell: KCall looks interesting. Thanks for the info.
[10:51] <Riddell> karthik_r085: I havn't tried it, may well be the program is rubbish and doesn't work, but it might be the next must have application
[10:53] <Mez> hehe :D
[10:53] <Mez> I persuaded Seth_k to try for membership tonight :D
[10:53] <Mez> I think he'll do well
[10:55] <Riddell> Mez: who is seth_k?
[10:56] <Mez> seth_k form #kubuntu ... he's actualyl really good at giving support and stuff (e's helped me out of a few tight scrapes)
[10:56] <Mez> he's trying for MOTU ... but I'm gonna try and persuade him to come to the Kuuntu team too
[10:56] <Riddell> Mez: good stuff :)
[10:57] <Riddell> never noticed him, but running /last seth_k on #kubuntu shows a lot of activity
[10:57] <allee> Riddell, karthik_r085: AFAIR kcall is hacked severly at SoC.  so there is hope to get something great ;)
[10:57] <Mez> * last :Unknown command
[10:58] <karthik_r085> Riddell: I am little confused. You want me to test KCall, rite?
[10:58] <Mez> oh, and he's the one who helps me test out my breezy stuff :) seeing as he's running it
[10:58] <Riddell> karthik_r085: I want you to evaluate it, see if it's any good or not and if it is good make a package of it
[10:58] <Mez> he wubbles the k3b package :D great attention to detial apparently ;)
[10:59] <Riddell> wubbles.  sounds like a good word
[10:59] <karthik_r085> Riddell: Ok.
[10:59] <froud> anyone test that nasty iso?
[10:59] <Riddell> froud: I will do so in a bit
[11:00] <Mez> wubbles is a great word
[11:27] <froud> night all


[00:01] <cjwatson> Cool, thanks.  I think I know what I'm doing for the other thing too.
[00:06] <wgrant> Hm, we should really remove glock
[00:07] <wgrant> Completely pointless.
[00:07] <wgrant> Just need to drop .distro files and add a temp dir alongside incoming.
[00:16] <cjwatson> Maybe for the next version.  I'm going to want *something* to change to make sure we can repeatably redeploy anyway ...
[00:17] <wgrant> Indeed.
[00:17] <wgrant> Just looking over the code in horror
[00:17] <cjwatson> Heh
[00:18] <cjwatson> Yeah, I almost killed glock but was already feeling like I was juggling a lot of changes.