[00:00] <secretlondon> is there anything in the changelog?
[00:00] <secretlondon> what's the numbering as well - 0ubuntux would indicate that we didn't get from debian
[00:11] <ubotu> New bug: #190576 in ubuntu "Screen too big on Hardy Heron Alpha 3 LiveCD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190576
[00:25] <ubotu> New bug: #190579 in ubuntu "numlock does not stay enabled  Hardy alpha4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190579
[00:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190580 in ubuntu "computer freezes when the molecules screensaver starts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190580
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #190582 in notecase (universe) "[upgrade] notecase 1.7.9" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190582
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #190583 in firefox (main) "firefox on yahoo home page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190583
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #190584 in alacarte (main) "alacarte crashed with TypeError in on_item_tree_cursor_changed() (dup-of: 175602)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190584
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190585 in compiz (main) "System lags after resume due to high hard drive activity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190585
[01:43] <Hirvinen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190587
[01:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 190587 in ubuntu "Local root exploit in kernel 2.6.17 - 2.6.24" [Undecided,New]
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #190586 in ubuntu "[Sync Request Universe] lordsawar 0.0.7-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190586
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #190587 in ubuntu "Local root exploit in kernel 2.6.17 - 2.6.24" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190587
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #190588 in ubuntu "After upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy, Gutsy boot drops to initramfs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190588
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190589 in mixxx (universe) "New upstream release (in REVU)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190589
[02:09] <ubotu> New bug: #190593 in gnucash (universe) "using gnucash within ubuntu my balance column only shows the 3 digits to the left of the decimal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190593
[02:12] <ubotu> New bug: #190594 in wordpress (universe) "Please merge wordpress 2.3.3+fr-1 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190594
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #190595 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanager does not automatically connect to trusted networks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190595
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #190596 in ubiquity (main) "HDD not bootable if ubiquity fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190596
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #190597 in ubuntu "hardy does not have atl2 >= 2.6.24-5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190597
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #190598 in ubiquity (main) "Ubiquity freezes at 100% (Copying Installation Logs)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190598
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #190600 in telepathy-sofiasip (universe) "Please sync telepathy-sofiasip 0.5.3-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190600
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #190602 in apt-file (universe) "apt-file does not read /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190602
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #190603 in ubuntu "Network Location Profiles Proxy (feature request)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190603
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #190614 in transmission (main) "New upstream version: 1.05" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190614
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #190617 in file-roller (main) "file-roller crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190617
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #190619 in bash-completion (universe) "error after upgrading to distinct package: bash: complete: kpdf: no completion specification " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190619
[05:55] <desertc> Hiya!  There is a bug that I have been tracking that I believe has been fixed.  Should I / May I change the status to Resolved?
[05:56] <desertc> I guess the status is "Fix Committed".
[06:00] <desertc> weee ... ... ... okay, I guess it can be opened again, if I am in error
[06:00] <persia> desertc: Fix Released is usually preferred, if the fix is now distributed in the repositories.
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #190620 in ubuntu "apt-get error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190620
[06:01] <desertc> persia: Thanks for your advice.  Done!
[06:02] <persia> desertc: Which bug?
[06:02] <desertc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash/+bug/164603
[06:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 164603 in gnash "gnash eats up ram" [Undecided,Fix released]
[06:03] <persia> desertc: It's good practice to subscribe to bugs when closing them, just so you can see any further report from the submitter.  Maybe it works for you, but not for them, and maybe it needs something else.  Usually there is nothing, but maybe once in 10 bugs or so there is a follow-up comment.
[06:05] <desertc> Good call.  I thought I was subscribed since it shows up on my Launchpad list of bugs.
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #190621 in evolution (main) "Posting a written-up message to a folder is inconvenient" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190621
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #190623 in ubuntu "The restart after updates caused Ubuntu 8.04 Alpha4 to have fuzy vertical lines all over the screen." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190623
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #190625 in gnome-games (main) "robot crashes when I teleport" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190625
[08:15] <Iulian> G'morning
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #190626 in gconf-editor (main) ""usefree" mount option USB error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190626
[08:48] <ubotu> New bug: #190627 in firefox (main) "Firefox looses focus when download finishes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190627
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #190629 in ubuntu "Performance cpu governor is always selected upon s3, s4 resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190629
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #190631 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus constantly popping-up autofs mounts in file browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190631
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #190478 in totem (main) "totem-gstreamer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190478
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190636 in gdecrypt (universe) "main.py crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_destroy()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190636
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #190637 in ubuntu "[Needs Packaging]Gnome Do 0.3.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190637
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #190639 in language-support-en (main) "error when logging into gnome: language en_AU does not exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190639
[10:16] <afflux> anyone can help me with private bug 190641? I'm not sure which package this bug should be assigned to. Since I'm the developer of gdecrypt, I don't think that something is wrong with gdecrypt, as the crash appears in gvfs, which I don't use.
[10:16] <ubotu> Bug 190641 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/190641 is private
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #190638 in linux-source-2.6.22 "IDE tape drive not functioning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190638
[10:22] <ubotu> New bug: #190640 in regexxer (universe) "regexxer crashed with SIGSEGV in pango_font_description_copy_static()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190640
[10:22] <persia> afflux: It indeed looks like something else crashed.  Notice the lack of anything meaningful at the very top of the stack (#97-95), likely indicating that the symbolds for gdecrypt were insufficient to find the error.
[10:22] <afflux> hm... gdecrypt is a python app :(
[10:22] <persia> On the other hand, perhaps something related to the gdecrypt closure caused something else to crash?
[10:24] <persia> afflux: Looking at the stacktrace, it may well be that the window closure couldn't be handled.  You might check with someone more familiar with python-gtk: it may be in there (but it may not).
[10:24] <afflux> yeah, possible
[10:24] <afflux> persia: #95 comes from /usr/lib/python-support/python-gtk2/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/_gtk.so
[10:25] <persia> That makes it even more likely to be something in python-gtk2 then.  Maybe reassign (but check how you are calling the closure first).
[10:25] <afflux> yes, I'll do that. thank you!
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #190642 in ubuntu "PL2303 kernel driver not detect serial converter after first connection to USB port" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190642
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190645 in emacs-snapshot (universe) "please sync emacs-snapshot version 20080209-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190645
[10:59] <afflux> persia: just FYI: calling glib's thread_init in the beginning of my python app seems to fix the issue
[10:59] <persia> afflux: Then it was a bug in gdecrypt.  Excellent!  Makes the fix easy.  Nice job in tracking it down.
[11:00] <afflux> persia: yep, thank you for the hint. I would've just assigned it to gvfs ;)
[11:00] <persia> stacktraces are handy.  They point at the issue.  Takes a bit to read them, but once you find an entry point, they usually explain things.
[11:03] <afflux> yes, definetly
[11:19] <ubotu> New bug: #190646 in kdebase-kde4 (universe) "kde 4.0.1: missing icons in kwrite" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190646
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #190648 in ubuntu "small fonts after fresh install of xfce4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190648
[11:26] <persia> cornflakepirate: I'd suggest starting by looking at the .desktop file for gucharmap
[11:27] <cornflakepirate> yup
[11:27] <ubotu> New bug: #190305 in f-spot (main) "f-spot.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in mono_jit_info_table_find()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190305
[11:27] <persia> Maybe there are some extra switches there that cause the odd behaviour?
[11:28] <cornflakepirate> Exec=gucharmap
[11:28] <cornflakepirate> that's the line, isn't it?
[11:28] <cornflakepirate> no switches
[11:28] <persia> That would be the line.  You say you get different behaviour running gucharmap with no arguments from the command line as opposed to using that?
[11:28] <cornflakepirate> yes
[11:28] <persia> Does it matter from which directory you start the program?
[11:29] <cornflakepirate> doesn't look like it
[11:30] <cornflakepirate> i know how to use gdb but i don't know how to attach it to a program not run from the command line (or is that even possible?)
[11:31] <persia> Hmm.  I'm not sure how to triage farther myself, without trying with a debugger (and I don't know the code well enough).  Have you already opened a bug in launchpad?
[11:31] <cornflakepirate> not yet, i have a funny feeling that there may be a problem with gconf
[11:32] <cornflakepirate> because Screens and Graphics seems to also be constantly forgetting my resolution settings
[11:32] <cornflakepirate> i think i've just found out how to attach gdb (hooray for google!)
[11:37] <ubotu> New bug: #190649 in pyflakes (universe) "no documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190649
[11:37] <ubotu> New bug: #190651 in phpbb2 (universe) "Please sync phpbb2 2.0.22-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190651
[11:39] <ubotu> New bug: #190650 in fbi (universe) "Please merge fbi 2.06-2 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190650
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190654 in fretsonfire (universe) "frets on fire crashes on opening (dup-of: 123433)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190654
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190655 in evince (main) "Evince crashing on print preview" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190655
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #190644 in ubuntu "New hardware" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190644
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #190656 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashing reading movies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190656
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #190657 in mail-notification (universe) "please sync mail-notification (4.1.dfsg.1-4.1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190657
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #190658 in gucharmap (main) "[Hardy] gucharmap doesn't save settings when not run from command line" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190658
[12:22] <persia> cornflakepirate: try installing the gucharmap-dbgsym package.
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #190661 in ubuntu "Search for Files Gnome applet cannot search for question marks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190661
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #190662 in dhcp3 (main) "ipv6 host resolution in resolv.conf will break dhcpd3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190662
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #190663 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "No matter what i do i am unable to get mail to send . It start to send then just runs till it times out?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190663
[12:41] <alanbshepard70> Can anyone help me find the right place to report a bug/hardware conflict? I've searched around and from what I can tell this hasn't been reported by anyone else but dell desktops with pci video cards lock on boot. I thought it was an issue with the video card I had but after trying 5 different video cards and searching google I found this to be an issue with dell computers not the card itself.
[12:45] <dejv_ntb> probably dell's QA contact
[12:45] <persia> alanbshepard70: I'd suggest reporting it at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs
[12:46] <persia> While it may be hardware related, there is likely a sensible workaround.  Maybe something needs to be blacklisted under certain conditions, etc.  Software crashing is a bug.
[12:48] <alanbshepard70> persia: What package should I say has the issue? To finally get the video card to work I had to install ubuntu without the pci card installed, boot up, blacklist the onboard vid card driver, install the pci card, boot to command line, configure xorg, login and then install the pci card drivers. Would this be considered a problem with xorg or...?
[12:49] <persia> alanbshepard70: Ah.  Less bad then I thought.  The problem should be reported against whichever package you needed to blacklist.
[12:49] <persia> I believe a large number of the video drivers are in separate packages now, for ease of triage and patching.
[12:50] <alanbshepard70> persia: this is what I had to add to modprobe.d blacklist agpgart and blacklist intel_agp
[12:50] <persia> alanbshepard70: Those sound like kernel modules rather than X drivers to me, but I'm not sure.
[12:51] <alanbshepard70> persia: I'll take your word for it since I have no clue myself.
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190665 in openoffice.org (main) "[gutsy] OpenOffice Impress 2.3.0 crashes when trying to save a specific presentation file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190665
[13:15] <ubotu> New bug: #190666 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes when downloading or uploading attachments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190666
[13:20] <ubotu> New bug: #190558 in gdecrypt "main.py crashed with KeyError in fill_mapped_list()" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190558
[13:20] <ubotu> New bug: #190667 in linux-ntfs (main) "Cannot copy all files between NTFS disks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190667
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190660 in gedit (main) "gedit crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_unref" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190660
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190668 in sympa (universe) "Installing sympa fails with password that contain unusual chars" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190668
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190669 in haskell-http (universe) "Please sync haskell-http 30010004-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190669
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190670 in quiteinsane (universe) "Please sync quiteinsane 0.10-14 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190670
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190671 in gdecrypt (universe) "new upstream version available (0.7.1)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190671
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190672 in drapes (universe) "Please sync drapes 0.5.1-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190672
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190673 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] jAOLT" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190673
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190674 in gnome-main-menu (universe) "[Gutsy] g-m-m shows up as "Logout" in gnome-app-install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190674
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190675 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes when downloading or uploading attachments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190675
[14:05] <ubotu> New bug: #190678 in etoile (universe) "Please sync etoile 0+20060914+dfsg-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190678
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #190677 in linux "Backport acer-wmi to hardy 2.6.24 kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190677
[14:10] <ubotu> New bug: #190679 in pm-utils (main) "Most recent package update breaks loading /etc/pm/config.d/*" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190679
[14:10] <ubotu> New bug: #190680 in openoffice.org-amd64 (main) "openoffice corrupted display" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190680
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #190681 in qemu (universe) "Please sync qemu to Debian Unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190681
[14:20] <ubotu> New bug: #190682 in debian-edu (universe) "package education-astronomy 0.824 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190682
[14:25] <ubotu> New bug: #190684 in xmms (universe) "Remove xmms from Ubuntu" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190684
[14:30] <ubotu> New bug: #190685 in ubuntu "Brasero needs documentation and needs improvement." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190685
[14:48] <bddebian> Boo
[14:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190686 in linux (main) "2.6.24-7 kernel gives many problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190686
[14:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190688 in gnome-terminal (main) "Use of explicit suffix in 'Icon' field of application launcher" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190688
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #190689 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Please merge meta-gnome2 <IP_ADDRESS> (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190689
[15:01] <ubotu> New bug: #190690 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird forgets S/Mime rule when changing account while writing mail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190690
[15:01] <ubotu> New bug: #190691 in compiz (main) "[hardy] Cannot set custom level" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190691
[15:24] <torkiano> hello, I need help triaging bug 99432
[15:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99432 in ubuntu "wireless network not working now" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99432
[15:25] <torkiano> is a duplicate of bug 134660
[15:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134660 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "Ralink rt2400 / rt2500 / rt2570 / rt61 / rt73 do not work out of the box in Gutsy/Hardy" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134660
[15:25] <torkiano> ??
[15:25] <ubotu> New bug: #190695 in kdepim (main) "looking for a directory crash kmail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190695
[15:25] <ubotu> New bug: #190696 in dhcp3 (main) "Unable to wake DHCP server of access point (WLAN)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190696
[15:36] <torkiano> The problem is that tehe bug reporter want to use the non-oficial rt2500 drivers instead rt2500pci wich are in the kernel
[15:36] <torkiano> because he need iwpriv functionality
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #190697 in ubuntu "Irda device too chatty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190697
[15:37] <torkiano> I mark bug 99432 as won't fix? duplicate?
[15:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99432 in ubuntu "wireless network not working now" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99432
[15:40] <ubotu> New bug: #190698 in evince (main) "Repeated images not appearing in pdfs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190698
[15:40] <ubotu> New bug: #190699 in mozilla-firefox "download folder won't change" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190699
[15:46] <ubotu> New bug: #190700 in gnome-bluetooth (main) "upgrade gnome-bluetooth to 0.11" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190700
[15:47] <greg-g> torkiano: it appears that he is referring to a different issue.  The issue that with those ubuntu supplied drivers he is unable to use WPA
[15:48] <greg-g> torkiano: so, my opinion is that it is a separate bug
[15:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190701 in ubuntu "Touchpad on toshiba laptop doesn't enable (Fn key not assigned?) or not programmed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190701
[15:59] <torkiano> hello greg-g, but Ubuntu will include legacy rt2500 instead official rt2x00 (in kernel tree since 2.6.24) drivers (rt2500pci)?If no I mark it as won't fix...¿?
[16:00] <greg-g> I would want the kernel networking team to mark it as "won't fix" since it is an issue
[16:01] <ubotu> New bug: #190702 in ubuntu "DVD is not  playing w/ alpha 4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190702
[16:02] <greg-g> torkiano: you are welcome to ask for a second opinion though :)
[16:14] <torkiano> ok greg-g, thnk you ;-)
[16:16] <greg-g> torkiano: you're very welcome, thanks for helping
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #190704 in synaptic (main) "unresolvable dependencies for projectcenter.app" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190704
[16:23] <sn0> hey all, where would i post a typo-bug for doc.ubuntu.com? http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html has a link to resolv.conf but the file doesn't exists. thanks all
[16:25] <ubotu> New bug: #190707 in tuxguitar (multiverse) "Please sync tuxguitar 0.9.1-4 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (contrib)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190707
[16:35] <ubotu> New bug: #190710 in totem (main) "player has no sound when playing a song" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190710
[16:40] <ubotu> New bug: #190715 in firefox (main) "Flash banners with mouse over events show white area" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190715
[16:41] <andrea-bs> sn0: you should go to #ubuntu-doc  ;)
[16:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190716 in sane-backends (main) "Missing udev rule for Epson GT-15000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190716
[16:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190717 in procps (main) "sysctl: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0804b008" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190717
[16:59] <UKHack> Hi - I'm using Hardy Alpha 4, with all the latest updates applied
[16:59] <UKHack> My nautilius has just died on me - dmesg reports a segfault
[17:00] <UKHack> Other than just filing a bug with Launchpad, is there anything else I can do?
[17:04] <andrea-bs> UKHack: can you please give us the bug id or its address?
[17:05] <UKHack> Haven't logged it yet - it would be good to get some help, so I can make sure that what I log is useful
[17:13] <albert23> UKHack: If you look in /var/crash, there should be a file like _usr_bin_nautilus.1000.crash. Check if that file has the right date and time for your crash. If it has, double click on that file and the report will be made automatically and will contain the information required.
[17:13] <UKHack> albert23 - I can't I'm afraid... Nautilus is refusing to bring up a window
[17:14] <UKHack> albert23 - I can see the file in question though
[17:14] <jeromeg> UKHack: I think you can use apport /path/to/file
[17:14] <jeromeg> in command line
[17:14] <albert23> UKHack: You can restart gnome, to get nautilus working again
[17:15] <UKHack> albert23 - tried that :) still get a segfault being reported in dmesg
[17:15] <albert23> UKHack: Ai, that's bad. Does a reboot help?
[17:15] <UKHack> albert23 - heh... when I said I tried that, I meant that I actually rebooted :)
[17:16] <UKHack> albert23 - I'll try again though
[17:17] <albert23> UKHack: you could try to re-install nautilus. Maybe it helps
[17:18] <jeromeg> i was wrong, apport-cli seems to be the correct command
[17:22] <ubotu> New bug: #190721 in f-spot (main) "Slideshow effects don't work properly " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190721
[17:22] <UKHack> albert23 - Ahh - re-install brought it back for about two seconds
[17:23] <UKHack> jeromg: Tried using apport-cli /var/crash/_usr_bin_nautilus* but got a message back that there were no pending crash reports
[17:24] <jeromeg> mmm
[17:24] <UKHack> OK - just forcing it to use that one noe
[17:24] <UKHack> that one now, that is
[17:24] <albert23> UKHack: If you start nautilus from a terminal window, does that give any error messages?
[17:25] <jeromeg> UKHack: it worked ?
[17:25] <UKHack> albert23 - Seahorse nautlius module initialized
[17:25] <UKHack> albert32: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:25] <jeromeg> apport-cli -c path should work
[17:25] <UKHack> jermog: Yep - that's how I did it (well --crash-file=*)
[17:26] <jeromeg> mmm
[17:26] <jeromeg> then I don't know
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #190724 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "good" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190724
[17:26] <UKHack> I don't know, but I think it may be theme related
[17:26] <jeromeg> apport-cli is supposed to do that, but...
[17:26] <UKHack> My desktop theme seems to revert to blue window bars, and orange window buttons
[17:27] <UKHack> jeromeg: I think it tried to do something, but for whatever reason the crash report wasn't pending
[17:27] <UKHack> Ahh
[17:27] <ubotu> New bug: #190723 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Toshiba M1 Tecra does not reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190723
[17:28] <UKHack> Here's the line in the launchpad wizard: SIGSEGV in oobs_share_smb_new()
[17:31] <Iulian> UKHack: That bug with the theme is already reported.
[17:32] <UKHack> Looking at the line in Launchpad, it might be Samba related
[17:32] <ubotu> New bug: #190726 in paprefs (universe) "Pulse audio device chooser not translated to polish" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190726
[17:32] <albert23> UKHack: look in ~/.nautilus and remove the last saved-session, then try to start nautilus again
[17:34] <UKHack> I've just logged the problem with Launchpad - Bug ID #190726
[17:34] <UKHack> I've just logged the problem with Launchpad - Bug ID #190727 even!
[17:35] <albert23> bug 190727
[17:35] <ubotu> Bug 190727 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/190727 is private
[17:35] <albert23> UKHack: no permission to look in that bug
[17:36] <jeromeg> UKHack: go to privacy/security on the left column
[17:36] <jeromeg> and set the bug as public
[17:36] <UKHack> Done
[17:38] <afflux> UKHack: let's wait for apport generating the retraced stacktraces, we'll be able to tell you more about the bug afterwards
[17:38] <UKHack> afflux: ? I don't quite understand you, or perhaps I just don't understand the worflow
[17:39] <afflux> UKHack: apport is a programm that'll generate more useful reports from crashreport
[17:40] <UKHack> afflux: Does that happen pre or post my submission? Is apport a server-side or client-side app?
[17:40] <secretlondon> apport runs on your computer
[17:40] <afflux> secretlondon: the retracing service doesn't
[17:40] <stgraber> you used the client-side part to submit the bug report, then it'll be updated from the retracing service which is running on a server
[17:41] <secretlondon> yes, the retracing service runs on canonicals servers
[17:41] <secretlondon> there is stuff on the wiki about how it works
[17:42] <secretlondon> when you submit your bug it is made private and is tagged that it needs retracing
[17:42] <secretlondon> the bot gets round to it and edits the bug with the retraced files
[17:42] <secretlondon> the tags are then changed and the bug squad look at it to see if there is any personal info in the trace
[17:43] <secretlondon> if it's okay we make it visible
[17:43] <afflux> UKHack: your bug has been retraced now
 So that means it's ready to be looked at?
[17:45] <afflux> UKHack: no
[17:45] <afflux> err
[17:46] <afflux> yes it does, misread your question ;)
[17:46] <secretlondon> which bug # is it?
 Is there any further information I should supply?
[17:46] <afflux> its bug 190727
[17:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 190727 in nautilus "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in oobs_share_smb_new()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190727
[17:46] <afflux> UKHack: I'm not sure. If yes, you will receive an email
[17:46] <secretlondon> i'll have a look at
[17:46] <ubotu> New bug: #190728 in qt-x11-free (main) "Polish translation missing in Qt3 Configuration .desktop file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190728
[17:47] <secretlondon> UKHack: does it happen repeatedly every time you reboot or reinstall?
[17:48] <secretlondon> is your hardy install fully updated?
[17:48] <UKHack> secretlondon: repeatedly after reboot and reinstall
[17:48] <secretlondon> ok
[17:48] <UKHack> secretlondon: And I have just run an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[17:48] <secretlondon> ok
[17:48] <secretlondon> could you add that to the bug for me?
[17:49] <UKHack> OK - I thought I did already
[17:49] <ubotu> New bug: #190730 in firestarter (universe) "Firestarter polish translation missing in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190730
[17:51] <UKHack> OK Done - I've updated the report
[17:51] <secretlondon> can you also say what happened when you uninstalled samba?
[17:52] <UKHack> heh - nothing happened, but I'll certainly add it
[17:52] <secretlondon> so its the same
[17:52] <UKHack> Yes
[17:54] <UKHack> OK - updated the bug report nonetheless
[17:54] <secretlondon> thats the sort of stuff we need to know - especially when it looks like it involves smb
[17:56] <secretlondon> there are changes in gnome stuff connected to the file system - I expect this is the cause
[17:56] <secretlondon> there are people who work full time on gnome who are the experts (I'm just a 1st level triager)
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #190727 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in oobs_share_smb_new()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190727
[17:57] <UKHack> OK - just tried an apt-get reinstall for nautilus (this is now after the removal of Samba etc)
[17:58] <secretlondon> and?
[17:58] <UKHack> Nope - no difference
[17:58] <UKHack> (was just waiting for the machine to restart)
[17:58] <secretlondon> ok - please add that too
[17:59] <UKHack> Done
[17:59] <secretlondon> as much detail as you can of what you've tried etc
[17:59] <secretlondon> it all helps
[18:01] <secretlondon> okay I think it might be the same as bug #183870
[18:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 183870 in liboobs "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in oobs_share_smb_new()" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183870
[18:02] <UKHack> OK - so what do I need to install? liboobs-dev?
[18:02] <secretlondon> no - -dev packages are to build software against
[18:03] <secretlondon> you need to install the one with the debugging symbols
[18:03] <secretlondon> I'll get you the link
[18:04] <UKHack> liboobs-1-4-dbg?
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #190731 in ubuntu "resolution wrong when x restarted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190731
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #190732 in totem (main) "just bands of colorful horizontal lines at 90 degrees." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190732
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #190733 in ubuntu "shutdown dialog very slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190733
[18:05] <albert23> UKHack: your backtrace looks fine. All symbols are resolved. There is no need to install dbg/dbgsym packages now.
[18:06] <UKHack> albert32: Thanks - is there anything else I can do, especially given that the other bug report petered out?
[18:07] <secretlondon> the other petered out because it resolved itself
[18:07] <albert23> UKHack: It would help if you remembered what you were doing with smb
[18:07] <secretlondon> Just wait, I've subscribed desktop-bugs, they'll look at it (prob Monday as I suspect they don't work sun eves)
[18:08] <ubotu> New bug: #190735 in ubuntu "audio low after updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190735
[18:08] <UKHack> OK
[18:08] <UKHack> Thanks for your help, like I said I was keen to provide as much useful info as possible
[18:09] <secretlondon> thanks for helping, you'll get email if we need any more info
[18:09] <UKHack> Thanks, and goodnight
[18:16] <ubotu> New bug: #190737 in ubuntu "Hi load average using in 8.04a4 NIS/Autofs setup copied from 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190737
[18:16] <ubotu> New bug: #190738 in ubuntu "Numeric keyboard doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190738
[18:26] <ubotu> New bug: #190740 in ikiwiki (universe) "Please sync ikiwiki 2.31 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190740
[18:35] <ubotu> New bug: #190741 in grub2 (universe) "Syntaxerror in /boot/grub/grub.cfg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190741
[18:35] <ubotu> New bug: #190743 in meta-kde4 (universe) "KDE4 desktop grid shows taskbar from current desktop in all desktops." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190743
[18:40] <ubotu> New bug: #190744 in libgdamm3.0 (universe) "Request: Upgrade libgdamm3.0 to upstream version 2.9.81" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190744
[18:44] <greg-g> the library for oobs has an unfortunate name
[18:45] <fijam> hello, sorry to bother you but is there any eta on fix for http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9924 ?
[18:45] <ubotu> bugzilla.kernel.org bug 9924 in Other "Two vmsplice local root exploits" [High,New]
[18:47] <greg-g> fijam: you would have to ask the kernel developers
[18:49] <fijam> hmm, ok, thanks.
[18:54] <greg-g> fijam: join #kernel and someone might be able to help you out
[19:00] <fijam> Well, I am more interested in when will this get rolled out in ubuntu rather than how to patch my kernel. But thanks anyway.
[19:00] <greg-g> fijam: it doesn't look like it is fixed in the upstream kernel yet, so it wouldn't be in Ubuntu yet either
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #190746 in console-setup (main) "Some console fonts (i.e.Lat2-VGA8.psf.gz) have bad Unicode maps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190746
[19:01] <fijam> Well, it is fixed in git already. Still, the clock is ticking :)
[19:04] <greg-g> fijam: rest assured that if it is a security issue and it is fixed you will get an updated kernel
[19:14] <fijam> greg-g, for the time being I'll just have to lock down ssh access.
[19:35] <ubotu> New bug: #190748 in nautilus (main) "Impossible to re-enable both side panels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190748
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190749 in firefox (main) "Illegal instruction in firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190749
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190750 in listen (universe) "listen music player automatic playlist bug (Ubuntu 7.10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190750
[19:56] <dejv_ntb> Does bzr's architecture allow to recover from this error?
[19:56] <dejv_ntb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/190725
[19:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 190725 in bzr "Bzr can't init branch on ntfs-3g filesystem" [Undecided,New]
[19:56] <dejv_ntb> never mind
[19:57]  * dejv_ntb has posted to wrong channel
[20:00]  * secretlondon knows *nothing* about bzr
[20:05]  * dejv_ntb hides
[20:28] <ubotu> New bug: #190751 in ubuntu "[hardy] Sometimes GNOME freezes since last updates..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190751
[20:28] <ubotu> New bug: #190752 in motion (universe) "package motion 3.2.9-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190752
[20:38] <ubotu> New bug: #190754 in ubuntu "Bad multitasking / responsiveness in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190754
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190756 in totem (main) "Totem crashes when scrolling with mouse wheel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190756
[20:46] <ubotu> New bug: #190759 in ubuntu "audio card is not recogniced" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190759
[20:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190760 in man-db (main) "[Hardy] lexgrog doesn't grog space in program name " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190760
[20:51] <ubotu> New bug: #190761 in ubuntu "Screen defaults to 1280x1024" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190761
[20:56] <ubotu> New bug: #189584 in avidemux "Typo" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189584
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189586 in ddtp-ubuntu "Typo (dup-of: 189584)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189586
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189587 in ddtp-ubuntu "Typo (dup-of: 189584)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189587
[21:10] <ubotu> New bug: #190764 in claws-mail (universe) "[needs-merge] claws-mail_3.3.0-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190764
[21:15] <ubotu> New bug: #190765 in nted (universe) "Please sync nted and nted-doc 0.18.2-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190765
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #190766 in gnome-panel (main) "i can't switc between my two desktops" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190766
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #190767 in googleearth-package (multiverse) "Please sync googleearth-package 0.5.2 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (contrib)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190767
[21:32] <ubotu> New bug: #190718 in ubuntu "app crash in few at start system" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190718
[21:32] <ubotu> New bug: #190768 in ubuntu "openoffice.org restores old backup file after crashing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190768
[21:32] <ubotu> New bug: #190769 in jockey (main) "jockey-gtk crashed with AssertionError in __init__() (dup-of: 187148)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190769
[21:39] <ubotu> New bug: #190772 in imp4 (universe) "Please sync imp4 4.1.6-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190772
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #190774 in linux (main) "pata_sil680 regression 2.6.22->2.6.24" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190774
[21:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190775 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "ERROR OF BOOK MARKS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190775
[21:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190776 in dopewars (universe) "Please sync dopewars 1.5.12-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190776
[21:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190777 in evince (main) "evince doesn't scale bitmaps cleanly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190777
[21:47] <dax_roc> Evening all
[21:48] <dax_roc> Is there a bug with threading on smp > 2 ?
[21:49] <dax_roc> It seems to switch cores more than it should afaik
[21:50] <secretlondon> dunno. have you tried searching?
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190778 in xournal (universe) "[hardy] xournal does not give smooth lines" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190778
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190779 in dpkg-www (universe) "Please sync dpkg-www 2.54 (universe) from Debian unstable (main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190779
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190780 in gnome-terminal (main) "non riesco più ad aprire aggiungi/rimuovi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190780
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #190782 in update-manager "[Patch] RGBA support in update-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190782
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #190783 in vim (main) "Subpixel AA rendering bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190783
[22:23] <ubotu> New bug: #190784 in yelp (main) "Every time I turn the touchpad on my laptop off, then on again the "Ubuntu Help Center" pop up after slowing my system. Windows Vista popups were a pain, but at least I could turn off most of them - this is getting silly. Ubuntu isn't supposed to be like this." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190784
[22:23] <ubotu> New bug: #190785 in pastescript (universe) "Please sync pastescript <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190785
[22:26] <ubotu> New bug: #190788 in ubuntu "ubuntu doesn't respond to mouse in most opened applications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190788
[22:26] <ubotu> New bug: #190791 in cinepaint "Please re-add cinepaint to Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190791
[22:28] <markvandenborre> persia: ping
[22:30] <markvandenborre> hi all, I just added some information to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad0.10/+bug/111555
[22:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111555 in timidity "package gstreamer sw midi playback plugin" [Low,Confirmed]
[22:30] <markvandenborre> that might make solving this bug a lot easier
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #190794 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "package sun-java6-jre 6-04-1 failed to install/upgrade: Abh?ngigkeitsprobleme - lasse es unkonfiguriert" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190794
[22:40] <ubotu> New bug: #190798 in mako (universe) "Please sync mako 0.1.10-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190798
[22:43] <cbx33> hey all
[22:43] <cbx33> any eta on a release for a fix for the big kernel bug?
[22:44] <pochu> cbx33: which bug?
[22:44] <cbx33> the local root exploit
[22:44] <cbx33> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/190587
[22:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 190587 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Local root exploit in kernel 2.6.17 - 2.6.24 (vmsplice)" [Critical,Confirmed]
[22:45] <greg-g> cbx33: best to ask the kernel developers
[22:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190799 in gnome-session (main) ""additional startup programs" crash xserver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190799
[22:45] <pochu> #ubuntu-kernel
[22:55] <ubotu> New bug: #190800 in kqemu (universe) "Please sync kqemu 1.3.0~pre11-8 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190800
[23:25] <ubotu> New bug: #190805 in python-qt3 (main) "[Hardy] Monitor and Display systems settings is broken (displayconfig)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190805
[23:25] <ubotu> New bug: #190807 in boa (universe) "boa returns HTTP 204 for a zero length file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190807
[23:30] <ubotu> New bug: #190808 in gnome-desktop (main) "Double icon of media" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190808
[23:30] <ubotu> New bug: #190809 in ubuntu "Two copies of cds on desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190809
[23:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190811 in gnome-app-install (main) ""get ubuntu addons" ended gnome-app-install (dup-of: 189490)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190811
[23:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190812 in xsupplicant (universe) "Please merge xsupplicant 1.2.4.dfsg.1-5 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190812
[23:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190813 in ontv (universe) "3.0.0 released" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190813
[23:45] <ubotu> New bug: #190814 in asmail (universe) "Please sync asmail 2.1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190814
[23:50] <ubotu> New bug: #190815 in ubuntu "cannot add existing /home directory user after fresh install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190815
[23:50] <ubotu> New bug: #190816 in asmixer (universe) "Please sync asmixer 0.5-13 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190816


[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[14:47] <etneg_> kenvandine: hey
[14:47] <kenvandine> etneg_, hey... sorry i didn't get around to blogging over the weekend, but i will today for sure :)
[14:52] <etneg_> no issues:D
[15:06] <etneg_> i took my votes by showing it around
[15:06] <etneg_> most of them liked the first concept
[15:06] <etneg_> the one you like
[15:07] <etneg_> and the first one when scaled to an icon almsot looks like a flower so
[22:16] <MrChrisDruif> wendar; How's it going?
[22:39] <MrChrisDruif> No one around?


[08:04]  * lool waves
[08:04] <lool> Hi rwhitby
[08:19] <lool> rwhitby: So I think Oliver answered most questions; there are two things I'd like to get back to
[08:21] <lool> rwhitby: The first one is on sponsoring hardware, that's great!  We usually planned to buy hardware (slugs) for ourselves a couple of weeks ago for our sprint, but a luggage with 2 of them was lost and when we soldered serial consoles on the other 3, one didn't work
[08:22] <lool> So NCommander has his own NSLU2 with a non-working serial console, and NCommander and ogra received "Canonical" slugs with serial console
[08:22]  * NCommander hasn't even tried to plug in either slug yet since I got home
[08:23] <lool> rwhitby: So more hardware is welcome (the mobile team at canonical is NCommander, StevenK, persia, davidm, ogra and myself); however we might not spend as much time on the NSLU2 once d-i works and Ubuntu runs decently on it -- we have a lot of other boards to enable
[08:25] <lool> rwhitby: Concerning changes such as a recovery sshd (I think you mentionned dropbear), this would be welcome!  we don't have big plans to work on this because this is quite specific to headless devices and our main mid-term target boards have a display; however we would love helping you or other people achieving this in Ubuntu; usually this starts by a "blueprint" where you spec the idea, this usually gets discussed at UDS, then you write the ...
[08:26] <lool> ... details of the implementation steps in the spec, and proceed to implementation over the next cycle
[08:27] <lool> rwhitby: Some people here are confortable with initramfs and the associated Debian/Ubuntu tools, and I'm sure will be happy to help if someone is interested in implementing that
[23:36] <rwhitby> lool: saw your comments in my bouncer backlog - thanks for the details.  I'll follow up on the hardware donation question on email.