[07:16] <Phatrabbi1> arrenlex: when i put that on the last line -- >  deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/  of /etc/apt/sources.list  i get the error when i try to update ---> smokeworld@smokeworld-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[07:16] <Phatrabbi1> E: Malformed line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[07:17] <Vince_> prevone: Yes and it told me /bin/sh cant access tty; Job control turned off and then gave me a prompt I couln't do anything with
[07:17] <arrenlex> Phatrabbi1: Because it needs to look like this: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[07:18] <ttmrichter> OK, so if I want to make an Ubuntu Users' Group involving my students, what would be a good place to look for materials and activities that are useful and interesting to them?
[07:18] <Phatrabbi1> arrenlex: ahh champion got it
[07:19] <Em3rald> PanzerMKZ: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9778/ <-- I am assuming you are suggesting precisely what to enter, that I am not to enter my own ip addies and such.
[07:19] <PanzerMKZ> ttmrichter: you got a lug?
[07:19] <PanzerMKZ> Em3rald: no that was a direct copy of my infterfaces
[07:20] <eck> ttmrichter: i would just make it a lug, you'll get a lot more users
[07:20] <PanzerMKZ> change it to your needs
[07:20] <keith> does anyone know how to increase the motion of a notebook touch pad?  (I just graded to ubuntu 6.10 and the touch pad barely moves the cursor)
[07:20] <Em3rald> PanzerMKZ: okie dokie.  hang on, a fresh pastebin coming at ya in a sec
[07:20] <eck> keith: you can use xset to control mouse sensitivity
[07:20] <keith> ec
[07:20] <keith> eck: xset?
[07:21] <jbwan> question: is there a more recent kernel than 2.6.17-11-generic that will facilitate my 300 GB hard drive?
[07:21] <eck> keith: yeah, iirc you run something like 'xset m 3 4'
[07:21] <keith> eck: ah
[07:21] <jbwan> I've narrowed it down to that issue I believe
[07:21] <eck> read the man page to understand what the numbers do
[07:21] <preVail> jbwan, what do you mean?
[07:21] <ttmrichter> eck, PanzerMKZ: these students have, for the most part, never encountered Linux at all.  There *ARE* no Linux users, for all practical purposes, in this country.
[07:21] <jbwan> preVail: I have a 300 GB hd that I can't fully partition
[07:21] <arrenlex> keith: I added this to the touchpad section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it fixed it for me: Option "MinSpeed" "0.5"     and    Option "MaxSpeed" "1"
[07:21] <jbwan> yet if I do like 1 GB
[07:22] <jbwan> it's fine
[07:22] <eoX> !chroot > me
[07:22] <PanzerMKZ> ttmrichter: Oh that is different then
[07:22] <jbwan> errors out with error 22 invalid argument if I try to do the full 300
[07:22] <PanzerMKZ> what about showing them how to install
[07:22] <whtvrrob> ttmrichter: what age are the students, high school, college?
[07:22] <|Jason8|> Is KDE a huge memory hog compared to Gnome?
[07:22] <Jake_> Hey all, How do i setup dual monitors (hdtv 1080i, and lcd) to both run on seperate x servers
[07:22] <preVail> jbwan, what are you using to partition?
[07:22] <eck> ttmrichter: you might consider signing up for some mailing lists and writing in and asking what other people have tried; most LUGs have a mailing list, plus you will find a lot of good suggestions on the ubuntu mailing lists and the like
[07:23] <jbwan> preVail: fdisk
[07:23] <keith> eck: wow now my mouse really moves fast but my mouse pad is near unuseable
[07:23] <preVail> |Jason8|, no
[07:23] <jbwan> in ubuntu
[07:23] <ttmrichter> PanzerMKZ, whtvrrob, eck: These are university students.  Youngest is 16 (!), but most are 19-21.  They are young for their age though.
[07:23] <PanzerMKZ> they run computers though
[07:23] <Em3rald> PanzerMKZ: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9779/ <-- I am mildly concerned about whether this comp is gonna be searching in the right place for it's network connection once this is done.  I have to make adjustments to my other router too I think.  Get all the moon and stars aligned and all that jazz.
[07:23] <PanzerMKZ> show them what you can do with a linux box
[07:24] <preVail> jbwan, I dont think that its a kernel problem. perhaps you could try using gparted or another program to partition
[07:24] <eoX> can someone plz explain to me what is a chroot environment?
[07:24] <eoX> or just a guide to chroot
[07:24] <preVail> jbwan, is there any reason that you believe it is a kernel related problem?
[07:24] <omeil> !chroot
[07:24] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:24] <PanzerMKZ> Em3rald: give me a min to look
[07:25] <jbwan> not necessarily a kernel problem...more a hardware problem that I'm looking to resolve with a kernel
[07:25] <jbwan> :)
[07:25] <PanzerMKZ> I don't think you would have to change the upstream router just then one that is doing the wireless
[07:25] <arrenlex> eoX: A chroot is another Linux installation sitting in a folder of another one.
[07:25] <whtvrrob> ttmrichter: another idea is some basic python programming, i know i'm 16 and i like that, they may as well, and simple, also on ubuntu shipit if you order them all a 6.06 cd they'd be more likely to use that than making their own
[07:25] <eck> ttmrichter: what were you thinking of exactly? how to use desktop programs, linux programming, or what?
[07:25] <jbwan> I'll give gparted a shot... I don't know what the success rate will be
[07:26] <preVail> jbwan, i had problems using fdisk on my 250 gb disk. Gparted worked like a charm for me
[07:26] <PanzerMKZ> em3rald: I think you might have to move the static up to the top
[07:26] <jbwan> thanks, preVail
[07:26] <PanzerMKZ> change the line iface eth0
[07:26] <jbwan> I'll give you the results in a few
[07:26] <jbwan> :)
[07:26] <preVail> good luck
[07:27] <ttmrichter> whtvrrob, eck: I've just sent in an order to shipit for 300 disks for exactly that purpose.  And I want to start them off with being users first -- UNIX is an alien world to them.  They can get their programming from the other classes.  I just want to show them a world outside of Java, Javascript and ASP.
[07:27] <PanzerMKZ> ttmrichter: show them install
[07:28] <PanzerMKZ> show them
[07:28] <PanzerMKZ> using ubuntu
[07:28] <eoX> arrenlex so basically there is no advantage of me installing realplayer in chroot rite? and flash and firefox32 all that
[07:28] <chasmarang> hello
[07:28] <eoX> arrenlex is it better just to downgrade to 32bit ubuntu and have those things natively supported?
[07:29] <chasmarang> I want to see my c: drive with xp on it automatically
[07:29] <eck> ttmrichter: obviously the install and basic unix usage will take you quite some time, after that you should open it up to them and find out what else they want to get from it
[07:29] <luke_> i installed windows on my slave, then ubuntu on my master afterwards, i cant get grub to load windows. i get the error msg in grub "NTLDR is missing"
[07:30] <luke_> and i cant seem to fix it
[07:30] <PanzerMKZ> brb
[07:30] <luke_> could somebody please help moi
[07:31] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: Okay, having some wierd isses with that comp now hehe.  I might be a minute too.
[07:31] <chasmarang> edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:31] <luke_> i have
[07:31] <luke_> want to know what i put in?
[07:31] <whtvrrob> ttmrichter: also after the basics have been taught if you get some input from them to see what they want to learn about it, thats what i do with teaching my computer club kids
[07:31] <chasmarang> k
[07:31] <arrenlex> eoX: I strongly advise you to run a 32-bit distro. You won't notice any performance difference from a 64-bit operating system under normal desktop use, you'll only run into compatibility troubles.
[07:32] <luke_> charsmarang: title Windows
[07:32] <luke_> root (hd1,0)
[07:32] <luke_> map (hd0) (hd1)
[07:32] <luke_> map (hd1) (hd0)
[07:32] <luke_> makeactive
[07:32] <luke_> chainloader +1
[07:32] <PanzerMKZ> em3rald: maybe it is auto then
[07:33] <daya> what is the differrence bet. linux and Unix
[07:33] <chasmarang> looks right
[07:33] <acid_burn> I call the big one Bitey.
[07:33] <chasmarang> I want to see my c: drive with xp on it automatically
[07:34] <preVail> luke_, what does the map do
[07:34] <jbwan> preVail: gparted is running....
[07:34] <jbwan> should wind up with about 280 GB of 300 usable
[07:34] <luke_> not sure, it swaps where grub thinks the drives are i -think-
[07:34] <eck> daya: basically just who wrote the code
[07:34] <jbwan> I'll go back and check on it in a few and let you know
[07:34] <preVail> jbwan, is that a brand new drive?
[07:34] <eck> daya: for most purposes they are the same, but regular unix tends to be more broken
[07:35] <jbwan> no, it's was an NTFS formatted drive
[07:35] <jbwan> had it for a little while
[07:35] <chasmarang> how do I tell fstab to load my xp drive automatically
[07:35] <preVail> luke_, have you tried commenting the map lines out. Its been a while since i dual-booted but I dont see why those are necessary
[07:35] <daya> eck, I so far knew that unix is not free am I right?
[07:35] <eoX> arrenlex i think u are largely rite i think 64bit only helps speed up encoding and extracting of files or Am i wrong? i tried running firefox and flash on 32bit library its pretty good but realplayer refuse to run so im thinking of chroot but just reading into it so don't know too much
[07:35] <luke_> preVail: i think i tried it without the maps first, but ill give it a go i might have been missing a line back then too
[07:36] <eck> daya: it depends on the implementation, but generally it is not compatible with the gpl
[07:36] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: ugh ... I am all tied in knots now.  I can't even access the 'net from that comp now :(
[07:36] <arrenlex> !u | eoX
[07:36] <ubotu> eoX: Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[07:36] <eck> daya: often though you buy a contract for the source code with a proprietary unix implementation
[07:36] <jbwan> am I correct in assuming the only way to mount the drive is using /etc/fstab to a mount point? No way to get to show up like the file system drive?
 how do I tell fstab to load my xp drive automatically
[07:36] <preVail> chasmarang, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[07:36] <dauoalagio1> Hello, i have my  edgy set up with alsa.  sound is working, however, it is very soft.  i have it turned up all the way alsamixer and gnome-volume-control.  any ideas?  it is also kind of distored.  it's a conexant high definition audio
[07:36] <daya> eck, is FreeBSD is totally UNIX?
[07:37] <acid_burn>
[07:37] <PanzerMKZ> Em3rald, try to ping your router
[07:37] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: kay
[07:37] <chasmarang> oh so it wont let me alter anything
[07:37] <eck> daya: it sort of depends. it has no at&t code in it, but it is directly derviced from unix
[07:37] <eoX> arrenlex why does that bother you soo much? i picked up this habit in college like b/c y and u haha
[07:37] <PanzerMKZ> then if that works
[07:37] <jbwan> I have /dev/hdb1     /mnt/data     ext3     defaults,errors=remount-ro 0     1
[07:37] <PanzerMKZ> then ping the other box
[07:37] <jbwan> copied from another line in the config
[07:37] <preVail> chasmarang, go to that webpage. right below it will explain what you want to do (ntfs-3g)
[07:37] <eck> derived even
[07:38] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Panzer:  pinging from client to both routers worx.  now ...
[07:38] <arrenlex> eoX: 64-bit doesn't actually speed up applications; it simply allows you to access more physical memory (4GB was the limit for 32-bit) and resolves several CPU and memory bottlenecks which could not be addressed by 32, which you won't feel anyway under desktop use.
[07:38] <acid_burn> I think that sash is cutting off air to your brain.
[07:38] <daya> eck, is there are any flavours of unix as linux ?
[07:38] <PanzerMKZ> ok
[07:38] <preVail> jbwan, i dont understand
[07:38] <eck> daya: a lot of people call bsd unix though
[07:38] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: pinging the wireless router from the wired computer doesn't work.
[07:38] <eck> daya: i don't understand your question
[07:38] <jbwan> preVail: to automount the second hard drive
[07:38] <arrenlex> eoX: I take the time to type things out properly; why can't you? It makes you sound like a moron and makes it hard for me to take you seriously.
[07:38] <chasmarang> thank you
[07:38] <jbwan> on boot
[07:38] <PanzerMKZ> that is nuts then
[07:38] <wasabi> arrenlex: Strictly speaking that is incorrect. Having 64 bit registers lets you move and operate on a 64 bit value every cycles vs a 32 bit value.
[07:38] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> hmm, wait maybe wrong ip
[07:39] <jeanre> gosh eclipse is slow\
[07:39] <daya> eck, I mean different version of unix?
[07:39] <wasabi> arrenlex: With, along with creative compiler optimizations and specific workloads, can be faster.
[07:39] <daya> eck, as different distros of linux?
[07:39] <eck> daya: there are a _lot_ of them
[07:39] <daya> eck, is unix is one?
[07:39] <jbwan> I'd like to automount it and have it show up as a hard disk, like the filesystem does ... at the least show the mount point the computer browser
[07:39] <eoX> arrenlex i only have 2 gig of ram so i guess 64bit is not needed at all
[07:39] <wasabi> arrenlex: Or it could also be slower because you're storing 64 bits of data in RAM instead of 32. Depending on the work load.
[07:39] <jbwan> forgive my ignorance ... I'm a Windows engineer trying to cross over from the dark side :)
[07:39] <preVail> jbwan, that can be done
[07:40] <preVail> jbwan, hah
[07:40] <preVail> do you use gnome or kde?
[07:40] <daya> eck, eg.
[07:40] <jbwan> gnome
[07:40] <eck> daya: there is no such thing as just 'unix'. originally at&t developed it, and they sold the code to many other companies, each of these companies then developed it independently and sold their own slightly incompatible versions of 'unix'
[07:40] <arrenlex> wasabi: But applications are written with 32-bit in mind at the moment anyway, meaning the only benefits they get from that are what the compiler gives them, which is very little, I take it.
[07:40] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: okay, here's what is messing with my head.  The IP of the wired router is .0.1 ; the IP of the wireless *from the wired computer* is what?  is it the static one or it
[07:40] <eoX> arrenlex i don't think shorthands makes me look retarded but if you don't like it i can type out the whole thing
[07:40] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> 's original one?
[07:40] <PanzerMKZ> say again
[07:40] <arrenlex> eoX: Thank you very much. :)
[07:41] <simpla> does anyone know where i could get info or howto install device-mapper?
[07:41] <preVail> jbwan, if you configure it to mount on boot it will probably automatically show up in gnome as a hard disk
[07:41] <wasabi> arrenlex: Also pretty much not something you can simply "say". Many media programs derive instant benefit from being able to move larger amounts of data.
[07:41] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: Hehehe just a sec.
[07:41] <PanzerMKZ> Would someone please tell me where the dns resolver file is
[07:41] <PanzerMKZ> ?
[07:41] <preVail> PanzerMKZ, /etc/resolv.conf
[07:41] <simpla> /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:41] <PanzerMKZ> thanks
[07:41] <sjust1216> jbwan this is what is in my /etc/fstab to mount my other drives
[07:41] <sjust1216> /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[07:41] <jbwan> preVail: do I have the correct line entry for /etc/fstab?
[07:41] <eoX> arrenlex well since Im gonna reinstall with 32 bit is there any shortcomings from using reiserfs and mount noatime? i don't see any personally
[07:41] <arrenlex> wasabi: I agree that for applications coded by hand to work with 64-bit, on a machine with 4+ GB of RAM, compiled on an optimising compiler, there will probably be a tangible benefit. But I still think for desktop use in the current world, the only difference you will really see is the lack of flash.
[07:42] <{NmE}> Greetings ... I am looking for some help with beryl.. anyone able to help? (I have it installed.. I just dont think it is working.. :(    )
[07:42] <eoX> arrenlex:  right now i'm using ext3 and mount defualt
[07:42] <sjust1216> my other drives are ntfs
[07:42] <wasabi> arrenlex: Oh, don't get me wrong. I agree. Just saying that what you're saying isn't strictly accurate. mplayer for example gets a benefit.
[07:42] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: Aight.  WiredComp: <IP_ADDRESS>; wiredRouter: <IP_ADDRESS>; WirelessRouter: ??? ; WirelessComp: ???
[07:42] <arrenlex> eoX: I've never run reiserFS, but I've heard if has some stability problems... you should read the wikipedia entry to see if they mention any drawbacks, or ask around.
[07:42] <Flannel> {NmE}: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[07:42] <daya> eck, thanks a lot !
[07:42] <jbwan> sjust1216: I was going to say ... it isn't ntfs anymore :)
[07:42] <preVail> jbwan, what format is the drive? (ext, reiser...)
[07:42] <jbwan> brb...checking on gparted
[07:43] <arrenlex> wasabi: Actually, mplayer suffers quite a bit, because it is no longer able to play .wmv, .rm, or quicktime. xP
[07:43] <jbwan> ext3
[07:43] <PanzerMKZ> oh you are asking me what the IP's should be then?
[07:43] <CoRnJuLiOx> hey, will a package for ubuntu edgy work fine on ubuntu dapper?
[07:43] <eck> daya: no problem -- if you are interested, wikipedia has a lot more information about the history of unix
[07:43] <Flannel> CoRnJuLiOx: no
[07:43] <eoX> arrenlex:  K thank you
[07:43] <{NmE}> Flannel, thank you!
[07:43] <daya> eck, ok
[07:43] <sjust1216> then you do not need the ntfs3g part but what it is formated as
[07:43] <daya> eck, where are you from?, I am from Nepal
[07:43] <sjust1216> ext3 or ext2 ect
[07:44] <wasabi> arrenlex: Depends on your goal. ;)
[07:44] <PanzerMKZ> Em3rald: You asking me what the IP's should be
[07:44] <PanzerMKZ> ?
[07:44] <wasabi> arrenlex: Also, gstreamer gets a benefit, and you can buy the fluendo wmv codecs.
[07:44] <eck> daya: america
[07:44] <daya> ekv, ye
[07:44] <Buffman> hey, has anyone gotten the macbook pro wireless working in dapper?
[07:44] <sjust1216> you need to make a directory in or where ever you want to mount it to
[07:44] <jbwan> sjust1216: ext3
[07:44] <jbwan> that's already done
[07:44] <Linuturk> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=381533 << hate if this is redundant, but I think I lost irc last time
[07:44] <{NmE}> Flannel, I think you sent me to a ghost town of a chan... lol.. No one seems to be responding..
[07:44] <jbwan> and I put in an entry but I think I botched it
[07:45] <jbwan> I have /dev/hdb1     /mnt/data     ext3     defaults,errors=remount-ro 0     1
[07:45] <sjust1216> I have my home on another drive and this is how it is set up /dev/hda1 /home ext3 defaults 0 2
[07:45] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Panzer:  sorta.  But hang on, I goofed a couple of things, and I am onto something.  Give me a couple of minutes to get my brain unravelled.
[07:46] <PanzerMKZ> Em3rald: np
[07:46] <preVail> jbwan, if you are having any goofy problems with the drive, try using the same mount options that you have for /
[07:47] <preVail> sorry, its tough to give more specific help when im at a windows computer
[07:49] <xeternal> hello
[07:49] <arrenlex> !hi | xeternal
[07:49] <ubotu> xeternal: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:49] <jbwan> hehe preVail: no problem
[07:50] <jbwan> I've actually managed to get down to a single Windows box in my house despite the fact I support Windows servers and MS technologies for a living
[07:50] <jbwan> I figure I cut my learning curve down by forcing myself to sink or swim
[07:51] <PanzerMKZ> that si cool
[07:51] <PanzerMKZ> I am trying to learn linux at cli only
[07:51] <Flannel> PanzerMKZ: Sounds good.  Welcome to the club.
[07:51] <arrenlex> jbwan: You support Windows servers? Is that at all like trying to patch a dam with chewing gum?
[07:52] <preVail> yea, took me a while to finally cut windows out completely. best decision i ever made
[07:52] <jbwan> arrenlex: somewhat
[07:52] <PanzerMKZ> yea I am learning alot that can be scripted and such
[07:52] <jbwan> though I find that it's easier to support the OS and base functions (i.e clustering, DFS, etc)
[07:52] <PanzerMKZ> and I like that I don't have to pay 400$ for a crap file server
[07:52] <jbwan> than dealing with the idiotic applications support people
[07:53] <sjust1216> jbwan try this site out it might help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[07:53] <jbwan> I spent all day today working with FileNet people
[07:53] <GhostFreeman> so do I resync my clock
[07:53] <jbwan> had the cluster they set up wrong done within an hour
[07:53] <jbwan> spent the other 8
[07:53] <jbwan> doinking with applications stuff and back end Unix / Java integration with the front end Windows boxes
[07:54] <preVail> sounds frustrating
[07:54] <jbwan> never a dull moment
[07:55] <PanzerMKZ> computers are never dull. Just stressful
[07:55] <jbwan> I get to be in training all next week though, so it'll be like a vacation :)
[07:55] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: Okay, here's the issue.    Who puts an IP of *.400?  I am retarded.  Second, the SMC router won't seem to let me change it's IP in the LAN settings to anything other than <IP_ADDRESS> (default), which means that any computer connected to that wireless router is going to have a 192.168.2.* addy.  But we *want* all comps on ALL routers to have a 192.168.0.* IP.  Ugh .. m
[07:55] <Em3raldMcSquizzy>   So, I *can* disable DHCP, but what use would that be if I can't force the router to take on a .0.* address?
[07:55] <CoRnJuLiOx> does ubuntu come with AIGLX? i'm trying to install beryl
[07:55] <jbwan> here, here PanzerMKZ!
[07:55] <Flannel> CoRnJuLiOx: #ubuntu-effects for all the Beryl stuff you'll need
[07:56] <PanzerMKZ> Em3rald: yea that is nuts
[07:56] <PanzerMKZ> I really like a wrt54gl reflashed with DD-Wrt
[07:56] <roy_> hi
[07:56] <PanzerMKZ> but you got the smc
[07:56] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> hehe, it was free
[07:57] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> What I *need* is an 8 port router with wireless.
[07:57] <roy_> can I ask something about DVD-burning on Ubuntu?
[07:57] <preVail> Em3raldMcSquizzy, are you using multiple routers?
[07:57] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> I am partial to Dlink.
[07:57] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> preVail: yup
[07:57] <shmuelix> hi. i was wondering how to disable the ubuntu loading screen and just get the text boot//
[07:57] <abhinay> hi all :)
[07:57] <PanzerMKZ> why not just get eight port switch
[07:57] <PanzerMKZ> ?
[07:57] <preVail> why not set that router into hub mode?
[07:57] <abhinay> shmuelix: remove the splash from the kernel parameters
[07:57] <PanzerMKZ> hey hey
[07:57] <jbwan> just buy linksys gear
[07:57] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: umm.  dunno.  preVail:  how?
[07:57] <PanzerMKZ> that might work
[07:58] <jbwan> and flash the boxes with dd-wrt
[07:58] <jbwan> :)
[07:58] <preVail> disable the dhcp server and NAT
[07:58] <jbwan> disclaimer: just make sure to rtfm before you do
[07:58] <Flannel> shmuelix: you need to edit your boot options, remove "quiet" turn "splash" into "nosplash"
[07:58] <abhinay> shmuelix: also remove quiet option to get verbose mode
[07:58] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> preVail: aight, I can disable dhcp, but I don't know where to look for disabling NAT
[07:58] <jbwan> Em3raldMcSquizzy: it's a firmware replacement for Linksys firmware on some routers
[07:58] <PanzerMKZ> ok so what port you got the eth cable plugged into the cms?
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> Em3raldMcSquizzy: third party firmware (I use it too)
[07:58] <roy_> hi, I inserted a blank DVD and the wizard thingy allowed me to burn a DVD, but when I try to read the DVD in a Windows machine, the long filenames couldn't be read by windows (they're okay when I read the same DVD from ubuntu)
[07:58] <jbwan> but with more functionality
[07:58] <jbwan> like
[07:58] <jbwan> hotspot
[07:59] <jbwan> bridging
[07:59] <jbwan> full vpn capable
[07:59] <shmuelix> Flannel, where is that file located ?
[07:59] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: from D-LINK port 4 to SMC port WAN
[07:59] <preVail> Em3raldMcSquizzy, you may have to search around or try googling it, but it should be possible
[08:00] <PanzerMKZ> change SMC port to one of the lan ports
[08:00] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> preVail: hehehe cool
[08:00] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: wierd, but okay :D
[08:00] <PanzerMKZ> yea I know
[08:00] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> She's now in 1
[08:00] <preVail> i had to do the same for an OLD linksys router, kind of a pain but it worked
[08:00] <PanzerMKZ> but that is how I have to do it on my wireless at work
[08:00] <xenex> if i have windows installed, could i install ubuntu and take some diskspace from windows?
[08:01] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: hehe, cool.  Okay, so now what?
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot | xenex
[08:01] <ubotu> xenex: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:01] <PanzerMKZ> ping the router from the wired box
[08:01] <shmuelix> Flannel, where is that file located ?/
[08:01] <shmuelix> sorry.. where is the boot-up option file located ?
[08:01] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ:  except I dunno what it's IP should be do I?
[08:02] <abhinay> Ubuntu Dapper is getting stoped to boot at uncompressing , in  Compaq Proliant 560 with SCSI RAID,  Any Idea ?
[08:02] <preVail> shmuelix, try /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:02] <PanzerMKZ> what about reseting the wireless comp with dhcp now
[08:03] <jeanre> man my boss is a idiot
[08:03] <shmuelix> thanks.
[08:03] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Hmm, aight, gimme a sec.
[08:03] <dimeotane> how do I do the checksum thing on the iso I just downloaded?
[08:03] <preVail> jeanre, how so
[08:03] <jeanre> is there any decent gtk webcam / im applications
[08:03] <dimeotane> gaim is a good im
[08:04] <preVail> ekiga
[08:04] <jeanre> preVail: I work 18 hours a day and he expects me to work on weekends
[08:04] <jeanre> with out extra pay
[08:04] <jeanre> heh
[08:04] <dimeotane> tell em hes fired
[08:04] <preVail> that sucks
[08:04] <preVail> amsn works great with webcams too
[08:04] <jeanre> and then he has the cheeck to tell me he can replace me at any time
[08:05] <jeanre> preVail: yeah but amsn is ugly
[08:05] <PanzerMKZ> ok so can you feed samba different printer drivers
[08:05] <jbwan> preVail / sjust1216: thanks for the assistance. looks like the formatting part is done
[08:05] <preVail> out of the box it is, but you can change the theme
[08:05] <jbwan> and I can mount manually
[08:05] <shmuelix> survey: what is the best computer(desktop) search program for ubuntu ?
[08:05] <PanzerMKZ> for different windows ok'
[08:05] <jbwan> but my fstab needs some work to get automount working
[08:05] <jeanre> preVail: mind a pm?
[08:05] <preVail> send me one
[08:05] <mike1o> find / | grep windows
[08:05] <sjust1216> no problem
[08:06] <abhinay> shmuelix: beagle
[08:06] <shmuelix> thanks.
[08:06] <mike1o> my gf is using ubuntu as of yesterday :-D
[08:07] <jeanre> preVail: is your nick registered
[08:07] <Fracture> I just accidentally deleted my MySQL Administrator menu option from the Programming menu.. How can I get it back ?? I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the packag, but that didn't work
[08:07] <jeanre> Fracture: use the console :D
[08:07] <jeanre> heheh
[08:07] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: Okay, I reset the interfaces file to the original; I reset the wireless router to dhcp but kept it static.  now, uh ... what?  The router is still identifying itself with a .2.* addy, and the computer therefore is also still .2.33
[08:07] <Fracture> jeanre: lol
[08:07] <Fracture> jeanre: I normally do
[08:07] <jbwan> mike: my wife and my daughter are entirely on ubuntu
[08:07] <jbwan> a pretty easy transition for them
[08:07] <Fracture> jeanre: but I like to add often used shortcuts to my panel;
[08:08] <PanzerMKZ> check your user man. There has to be a way to change that IP
[08:08] <jeanre> hmmm
[08:09] <jeanre> Fracture: you can always add the menu item manually
[08:09] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: Okay, possible additional goof on my part:  I had clicked on Spoof MAC address, it was in the spot where I anticipated an OKAY button.  Yeah.  brain cells are definitely shrivveled.
[08:09] <Fracture> jeanre: yeah, I was about to do that..
[08:09] <PanzerMKZ> sleep is always a good thing
[08:09] <jeanre> Fracture: I am not a gnome fan
[08:09] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> haha
[08:09] <jeanre> hehe
[08:09] <jeanre> so like my gnone is lank ugly
[08:09] <Flannel> shmuelix: /boot/grub/menu.lst, you'll want to edit the (commented out) lines at the top
[08:10] <CUBeR64> What year was it that linux won't be able to pass over? similiar to the year 2000 thing that plagued older operating systems
[08:10] <mike1o> jbwan, my gf wanted too also... but after months i hadn't found a driver for her printer... y-day i found it
[08:10] <PanzerMKZ> ten pound sledge works better
[08:10] <jbwan> that's the one thing that I don't have yet
[08:10] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: Haha, okay, now that we played around, lets try to get it all back to it's original settings.  Just so I can have inet on that machine again.
[08:10] <jbwan> but I haven't had the time to look
[08:10] <jbwan> my wife wanted to get this HP all in one jobby
[08:10] <jeanre> ok who here has a kick ass ubuntu install? with nice gnome
[08:10] <jeanre> show screenshots
[08:10] <jbwan> not sure if I'll find a driver for it or not
[08:10] <PanzerMKZ> well you shoudl have inet now
[08:11] <jbwan> sjust1216: restart again with modified fstab
[08:11] <Madpilot> jbwan, HP stuff is generally well supported, even their all-in-one things
[08:11] <mike1o> jbwan, i was really lucky i made a printer which was declared 100% unlinuxable
[08:12] <CUBeR64> What year was it that linux won't be able to pass over? similiar to the year 2000 thing that plagued older operating systems
[08:12] <mike1o> jbwan, *i found a printer driver i meant
[08:12] <preVail> jeanre, i feel like an idiot. ive been typing in the pm and just realized im not registered
[08:12] <PanzerMKZ> 2038 I thiink
[08:12] <sjust1216> should work
[08:13] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: mmm ... not yet.  But might in a sec.  I wonder if I have to reboot the router becuase I clicked on the Clone MAC addy thing, so that it recieves a new addy from the wired router?
[08:13] <jeanre> lol
[08:13] <jeanre> man why does rezlooks not work!
[08:13] <PanzerMKZ> you should not have too
[08:13] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> oooo .,.. hang on ... looks like it might work ... I see flickering LEDs
[08:13] <PanzerMKZ> oh oh that is a good sigh
[08:13] <PanzerMKZ> sign
[08:14] <jeanre> preVail: lol :P
[08:14] <preVail> does everyone here use gnome?
[08:14] <sjust1216> thats why I am here to see if I can get my printer working
[08:14] <preVail> i much prefer kde
[08:14] <arrenlex> preVail: I use KDE.
[08:14] <Madpilot> preVail, doesn't everyone with sense? ;)
[08:14] <jeanre> preVail: I use gnome
[08:14] <sjust1216> gnome/beryl
[08:15] <preVail> hah, i love the linus/gnome conflict
[08:15] <Madpilot> sjust1216, have you checked OpenPrinting for info on your printer?
[08:15] <jeanre> sjust1216: screenshot
[08:15] <jeanre> make it now!
[08:15] <arrenlex> Madpilot: If by "everyone with sense" you mean "everyone who is crazy", yes! :)
[08:15] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: {whew} back to normal.  Still no NFS, but I am thinking maybe I should give it a break hehe.  ANy other (better) ways of having a folder on the wired comp available on the wireless comp?
[08:15] <sjust1216> it is lexmark
[08:15] <PanzerMKZ> ftp
[08:15] <Madpilot> arrenlex, I'd @lart you, if that worked here...
[08:15] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Madpilot: I prefer Gnome. :P
[08:15] <arrenlex> @lart Madpilot
[08:15] <sjust1216> pos
[08:15] <sjust1216> but all I have
[08:16] <Madpilot> sjust1216, http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[08:16] <preVail> a very unpopular opinion Madpilot
[08:16] <jeanre> non of the themes I grap from gnone-look.org works right
[08:16] <mike1o> Madpilot, gnome here
[08:16] <sjust1216> had it working over the lan but my son moved out so I had to hook it up to my computer
[08:16] <Askar> Hi..how long does it take for you guys to open firefox?
[08:16] <d34l3r> hi al
[08:16] <PanzerMKZ> hey hey folks I am gui less
[08:16] <d34l3r> l
[08:16] <arrenlex> Askar: Two-three seconds.
[08:17] <_roy> hello
[08:17] <Madpilot> preVail, I'm misunderstood - what I meant was "sensible people run Gnome"...
[08:17] <d34l3r> I got some problem with the graphics drivers at Ubuntu
[08:17] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Askar: about 5 sec (Sempron 2600)
[08:17] <preVail> Askar, i assume if you even have to ask yours is taking too long
[08:17] <d34l3r> here I got a PC with Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti 4200
[08:17] <d34l3r> do i need legacy or not?
[08:17] <jeanre> hmmmm
[08:17] <d34l3r> I installed legacy
[08:17] <jeanre> legacy
[08:17] <PanzerMKZ> Em3rald
[08:17] <PanzerMKZ> check out vsftpd
[08:17] <Madpilot> sjust1216, what model of Lexmark?
[08:17] <d34l3r> but direct rendering does not work
[08:17] <jeanre> gf4 is not supported anymore
[08:18] <d34l3r> @ jeanre
[08:18] <sjust1216> says it is a paperwheight X83
[08:18] <d34l3r> I wanna play some old games using Cedega
[08:18] <Askar> preVail: yeah.. mine is taking 7-8 sec... It feels kind of long.. It felt that it opened quicker when ubuntu was freshly installed..can that be true?
[08:18] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: I briefly looked at that, but it seems a less-than-ideal method of playing music across the network ;)
[08:18] <d34l3r> so I need direct rendering
[08:18] <profx> when I do sudo apt-get update, I get GPG error: http://www.beerorkid.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E as an error
[08:18] <arrenlex> 0_0 Well that a sound I've never heard my computer make before...
[08:18] <profx> is there something I need to do to get the key?
[08:18] <_roy> I have a problem: I burned some files to a blank DVD, and it seems ok. But when I try to read the disc in a Windows machine, the long filenames are lost, windows just shows filenames like "kf_001", etc.
[08:18] <PanzerMKZ> oh so you are trying to do samba then?
[08:18] <IndyGunFreak> profx: is it keeping you from insalling the software you're tring to get?
[08:18] <mike1o> !gpg
[08:18] <_roy> is there something I should do so that windows can read it correctly?
[08:18] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[08:19] <profx> not really
[08:19] <sjust1216> had it working with a z82 driver
[08:19] <profx> i dont think
[08:19] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: originally trying nfs.  Getting lots of lack-of-permission issues.  Haven't tried Samba yet.
[08:19] <IndyGunFreak> profx: personally, i wouldn't really worry about it, but you can also look at that link.
[08:19] <PanzerMKZ> oh ok
[08:19] <CUBeR64> What year was it that linux won't be able to pass over? similiar to the year 2000 thing that plagued older operating systems
[08:19] <PanzerMKZ> you need to get them on the same subnet what ever you do
[08:19] <profx> doesnt seem like I setup my repos properly
[08:19] <Madpilot> profx, remove the automatix repo from your sources.list, that'll solve your problems. Then avoid Autobreakitz
[08:19] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PanzerMKZ: thanks so much for your patience though.  I understand how frustrating it can be from your end of the keyboard ... I have been there too :D
[08:20] <profx> how would I do that Madpilot?
[08:20] <Flannel> profx: You don't want to use automatix.
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: it doesn't look like automatix is causing the problem..
[08:20] <CUBeR64> nvm its the year 2038
[08:20] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> It's not, it's beerorkid, which is a compiz/beryl server.
[08:20] <PanzerMKZ> np. they just have to
[08:20] <Madpilot> IndyGunFreak, that beerorkid URL is (AFAIK) the automatix repo, isn't it?
[08:20] <PanzerMKZ> have to be able to talk to each other
[08:20] <profx> in Synaptic, correct?
[08:20] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> profx just do a google search for beerorkid gpg key
[08:20] <Askar> How do I make a script to replace all "_E5" in filenames with ?
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: i've never saw that on my automatix install, ever.
[08:21] <Flannel> Madpilot: yes, beerorkid is automatix.
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> profx: did you install automatix?
[08:21] <whileimhere> I have just installed KDE via the KUBUNTU metapackage. Is there a easy way to uninstall the GNOME desktop and associated apps?
[08:21] <profx> i dont beleive so
[08:21] <Askar>  whileimhere: just remove gnome-desktop I think
[08:21] <profx> i added third party repos in Synaptic
[08:21] <jeanre> when you do apt-get install gtk2-enigines-* can you exclude packages?
[08:21] <profx> and those are the ones giving issues
[08:21] <ubuntu> can somebody with extensive ubuntu experience help me
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> profx: is automatix in your appliations/systems menu
[08:22] <arrenlex> whileimhere: Yep: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[08:22] <mike1o> ubuntu, are u mark shattleforth?
[08:22] <arrenlex> lol, shattleforth.
[08:22] <IndyGunFreak> profx: you're making a mountain out of a molehilll, i wouldn't worry about it.
[08:22] <ubuntu> it was the automatic name it gave me, one sec
[08:22] <profx> and I can import key files in Synaptic, but they have to be local files, not sure how to set it up entirely
[08:22] <mike1o> eheh
[08:22] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> profx automatix is generally not recommended by most folx here.  IF you have beerorkid/compiz stuff going on you can do this:  wget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[08:22] <Flannel> !anyone | t12796
[08:22] <ubotu> t12796: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:22] <preVail> Askar, you might want to check out swiftfox
[08:22] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> profx and your problem might vanish.
[08:22] <mike1o> i guess he wuz
[08:22] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: i just updated my repos to look, and automatix didn't install that repo.
[08:22] <profx> ?
[08:22] <IndyGunFreak> although that gpg key does look like the automatix key
[08:23] <Askar> preVail: I have that installed already : /
[08:23] <mike1o> who would have registered that nickname before antone else?
[08:23] <Madpilot> IndyGunFreak, automatix must have moved - I know beerorkid used to be the ax repo
[08:23] <profx> i had a gpg key list on the same site where I requested the repos
[08:23] <CUBeR64> Tuesday, January 19 2038. Time: 03:14:07 GMT last possible second till 32 bit linux os's die!
[08:23] <profx> but I didnt know how to add it into Synaptic
[08:23] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: don't know, i've used it for about 6-7mo since dapper, and never saw it.
[08:23] <mike1o> is there a way to add gpg keys in a sequence?
[08:24] <PanzerMKZ> Em3rald: how much stuff you going to be transfering over your wireless?
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> profx: why are you trying to add something to synaptic?
[08:24] <profx> because it wasnt offering the packages I wanted
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> !gpg | mikelo
[08:24] <ubotu> mikelo: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[08:24] <t12796> i have slight experience with ubuntu, i decided to install it on my desktop, i am currently on the live cd(6.06 LTS) and i cannot change the screen resolution from 640x480, is there a way i can change it?
[08:24] <profx> adding more third parties allowed me to get what I wanted
[08:24] <fong_> hello?
[08:24] <preVail> whileimhere, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_ubuntu-desktop
[08:25] <Madpilot> profx, what were you after?
[08:25] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> profx:  YOu could also do this:  gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and find the lines that have "beerorkid" in them, put a ## in front of those lines.
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> profx: ok, so this gpg error, is likely coming from one of those 3rd party repos..
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> i personally wouldnl't worry about this.
[08:25] <michaelpo> will feisty include beryl?
[08:25] <crimsun> michaelpo: no.
[08:25] <profx> IndyGunFreak:  correct
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> you can try removing them 1 by 1, and see when the error stops,
[08:25] <preVail> t12796, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:25] <profx> but i just need to add the key, I beleive
[08:25] <preVail> and select higher resolutions
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> but i wouldn't worry about it.
[08:25] <michaelpo> what 3d will feisty include?
[08:25] <mike1o> try sudo rm -fr /
[08:25] <crimsun> michaelpo: it includes compiz.
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> !gpg | profx
[08:25] <ubotu> profx: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[08:25] <mike1o> joke!
[08:25] <t12796> preVail, where can i find that?
[08:25] <Flannel> mike1o: that's liable to get you banned
[08:25] <Madpilot> mike1o, not funny. Ever. Goodbye.
[08:26] <preVail> agreed
[08:26] <michaelpo> crimsun: thanks
[08:26] <matkix0s> So whats really with the no root on ubuntu?
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> so whats that command do?..
[08:26] <preVail> t12796, open up a console and type that exact command in
[08:26] <arrenlex> What do real, user and sys mean in "time" output?
[08:26] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> profx:  this is the thing, the beerorkid server has junk on it that many of us folx recommend against, therefore I strongly advise not using that specific repository.  Just my two cents.
[08:26] <jeanre> brb
[08:26] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Deletes everything under your root filesystem.
[08:26] <mike1o> sorry didnt mean to
[08:26] <profx> well, thanks for your two cents
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: holy crap, why would someone even joke like htat.
[08:27] <profx> but I already got what I needed
[08:27] <Askar> preVail: Any other idea of solution?
[08:27] <Enkidu1016> dose anyone know what file i need to edit in order to make somthing not start with i loginto X ?
[08:27] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: I take it you've never read bash.org
[08:27] <Madpilot> IndyGunFreak, some people think it's funny. Some people need educational kickbans.
[08:27] <preVail> t12796, it will walk you through configuring xOrg. you should just be able to leave everythign the way they have it, but just change the resolution
[08:27] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: lol, no.. guess i should
[08:27] <Madpilot> mike1o, pull that again and the ban will be 24hrs. Clear?
[08:27] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> profx:  hehe, itsallgood then :D .... there are other 3rd party repos that are a little more .... un-crappy though :D
[08:27] <profx> !repos | profx
[08:27] <mike1o> Madpilot, yes
[08:27] <preVail> you could always hand edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:27] <r4nge> is edquota used to set up quotas on ubuntu or something diff
[08:27] <profx> can someone post that for me pls
[08:27] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: well, some people need their parents to beat them more also.
[08:28] <sdac221x_> hi,  what backup program do you guys recommend ?
[08:28] <IndyGunFreak> profx: what do you need to know about repos?
[08:28] <Flannel> !backup | sdac221x_
[08:28] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> IndyGunFreak: I second that!
[08:28] <ubotu> sdac221x_: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:28] <profx> just post that, gives me what I need
[08:28] <Flannel> profx: you can always query ubotu
[08:28] <Flannel> !repos | profx
[08:28] <ubotu> profx: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:28] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> I like talking to ubotu
[08:28] <profx> someone pls just type in !repos
[08:28] <profx> thanks flannel
[08:29] <mike1o> Madpilot, i actually deleted my home dir once like that...
[08:29] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> I like saying, "hey ubotu, tell me about repos"
[08:29] <r4nge> !quota
[08:29] <ubotu> quota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13-8 (edgy), package size 393 kB, installed size 1196 kB
[08:29] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[08:29] <mike1o> really stupid
[08:29] <r4nge> !edquota
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edquota - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Madpilot> mike1o, the sudo rm command you gave could delete a lot more than just your home dir...
[08:29] <preVail> so why would you tell other people who came here looking for help to do that?
[08:29] <arrenlex> mike1o: If you yourself have suffered, why would you make other people go through that?
[08:29] <t12796> preVail, i got an error which i will pm to you because it is too big for the chatoom
[08:29] <Askar> !games
[08:29] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[08:29] <preVail> alright
[08:29] <IndyGunFreak> mikelo then why on earth would you suggest someone else do it.
[08:29] <mike1o> Madpilot, i know...
[08:30] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> t12796: you could just pastebin
[08:30] <Enkidu1016> when i edit xorg.conf, it dose not have the right thing. likt when you add to start Beryl when you login.. would that be another file.
[08:30] <arrummzen> Does Ubuntu include a GUI tool for configuring an Apache web server?
[08:30] <Flannel> arrummzen: not that I'm aware of.  What do you need help configuring?
[08:30] <arrenlex> !autostart | Enkidu1016
[08:30] <ubotu> Enkidu1016: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[08:30] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Mmmm ... configuring Apache .... my favorite game that causes insanity.
[08:31] <mike1o> arrenlex, the thing is that i wrote it like that... then i just pressed the enter key... better check what i write
[08:31] <arrummzen> Flannel, I want to configure Apache2 to host a Django web app.
[08:31] <profx> where again can I find some local repos for synaptic?
[08:31] <pinkyGal> hi just need some help  i just downloaded a file using ubuntu i can't find where it was saved. thanks
[08:31] <preVail> tommy12796, are you updating your system? or do you have another instance of apt-get running?
[08:31] <greg> anybody know why when i  minimize a window te window disappears??
[08:31] <Flannel> arrummzen: What does Django need?
[08:31] <Maul555> ...
[08:31] <arrenlex> mike1o: So... you're saying it's a typo?
[08:31] <tommy12796> i'm installing 6.06 LTS on this computer currently
[08:31] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> profx:  you could do a google search for Ubuntu Edgy Sources List
[08:31] <tommy12796> via live cd
[08:32] <arrenlex> !easysource | profx
[08:32] <ubotu> profx: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:32] <arrummzen> I'll just use the config files, it isn't that hard...
[08:32] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Oh yeah, I forgot about sourceomatic
[08:32] <mike1o> arrenlex, almost i was just jocking with myself... like jocking around didnt mean to press enter...
[08:32] <profx> ah yes
[08:32] <tommy12796> preVail, ok i exited the installation and it is working now
[08:32] <profx> that was it
[08:32] <profx> thanks arrenlex
[08:32] <arrenlex> profx: np
[08:33] <preVail> ohhhh, ok. try that once it has installed and you have booted from the hard drive. That error message that you recieved indicated that another package manager was running
[08:33] <Vince_> I'm having problums installing UBUNTU.  I've tried installing Breazy, Dapper, and the current version.
[08:33] <Vince_> If I try to install the newest version, I get an error that says "/bin/sh can't access tty; job control disabled"
[08:33] <Vince_> If I try to install Dapper, it tells me that it cannot mount the CD.  Even though its already loaded and running.
[08:33] <Vince_> If I try and install Breazy it installs to the point where it asks me to configure my user account and then all it does is ask me over and over agian and will not progress any further.
[08:33] <mike1o> arrenlex, i had deleted a mounted dir which was binded to my home... didnt think it would delete that one too
[08:33] <Vince_> Can somebody help me get one of these versions installed?  I'd like to end up with Dapper if possible.  Also please read the whole issue as I keep having people only read part of it and then spend time trying to help me fix the wrong issue for the wrong install.
[08:34] <profx> can I just use the "Automatically generated sources.list" and put it into a file, which Synaptic can use to access repos?
[08:34] <mike1o> Em3raldMcSquizzy, i have one.. i even installed ubuntu on her pc y-day... maybe i  need ANOTHER one!
[08:34] <profx> or do I have to add them in direclty in Synaptic?
[08:34] <pinkyGal> anyone can help me? thanks!
[08:34] <arrenlex> profx: Yep, you can put it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:34] <profx> nice
[08:34] <profx> thanks
[08:34] <PanzerMKZ> yea see you. You know where to go
[08:35] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> nite
[08:35] <PanzerMKZ> and what to do when you cahnge settings
[08:35] <preVail> pinkyGal, what did you download it with?
[08:35] <Ademan> WOW!  envy (the automatic driver installer) just completely ruined my computer...
[08:35] <profx> just use the entire file/replacing the old one?
[08:35] <Enkidu1016> ubotu: thanks but that did not help.. i cant get into my gnome session b/c of a file that starts and i need to manulay remove it
[08:35] <Ademan> i can't even boot into recovery mode
[08:35] <pinkyGal> hi preVail i dl from my browser
[08:35] <preVail> firefox?
[08:35] <pinkyGal> preVail, mozilla firefox
[08:36] <profx> think i need to research this a bit more
[08:36] <arrenlex> Enkidu1016: Boot in single user mode for a command line, or else boot from the liveCD and remove it if you don't know how to use the CLI (but I recommend you learn!)
[08:36] <profx> im afraid my keys will not be utilized properly
[08:36] <profx> as they are just comments
[08:36] <arrenlex> profx: If you want to keep your old repositories, put it at the end. If you don't, replace it.
[08:36] <preVail> by default i think it saves it to /home/username/Desktop. dont quote me on that but its somewhere in your home folder
[08:37] <Enkidu1016> arrenlex: im  in the CLI right now i just dont know the file i need
[08:37] <Phatrabbit> !pastebin
[08:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:37] <preVail> open firefox, go to edit->preferences and you should see the default directory that files download to
[08:37] <arrenlex> Enkidu1016: ...sorry, what?
[08:37] <Vince_> I'm having problums installing UBUNTU.  I've tried installing Breazy, Dapper, and the current version.
[08:37] <Vince_> If I try to install the newest version, I get an error that says "/bin/sh can't access tty; job control disabled"
[08:37] <Vince_> If I try to install Dapper, it tells me that it cannot mount the CD.  Even though its already loaded and running.
[08:37] <Vince_> If I try and install Breazy it installs to the point where it asks me to configure my user account and then all it does is ask me over and over agian and will not progress any further.
[08:37] <Flannel> !repeat | Vince_
[08:37] <ubotu> Vince_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:37] <Vince_> Can somebody help me get one of these versions installed?  I'd like to end up with Dapper if possible.  Also please read the whole issue as I keep having people only read part of it and then spend time trying to help me fix the wrong issue for the wrong install.
[08:37] <AppleNippleBOB> Hello, I have a generic question. I am trying to set up a remote acess tool that will allow me to securely connect to my home computer, so that I can acess files, launch programs (such as a torrent, or something of that sort), and do basic thing. X11 is optional, although prefered.
[08:37] <r4nge> !quota
[08:37] <ubotu> quota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13-8 (edgy), package size 393 kB, installed size 1196 kB
[08:37] <Enkidu1016> arrenlex:CLI command line interface right ?
[08:37] <Flannel> Vince_: What Dapper CD are you using?  Desktop?  Alternate?
[08:38] <arrenlex> Enkidu1016: Yes
[08:38] <willskills> Hi folks, I have two different sound cards (Nforce on board, and an SBlive!) - I can't get either card to record in OSS or ALSA. Is anyone willing to have a little VNC session and see if there is anything stupidly obvious? I have been trying to record with a mic for about 4 months, with no joy :(
[08:38] <IndyGunFreak> Vince_: don't mess with breezy, out of date
[08:38] <Vince_> Look
[08:38] <greg> anybody know why when i push the - on a window the window doesnt go to the panel...it dissappears somewhere??i dont know where it goes
[08:38] <preVail> willskills, are you using the sblive 24-bit?
[08:38] <arrenlex> greg: Do you have a taskbar on your panel?
[08:38] <Enkidu1016> arrenlex: you told me to learn that.. i can use it fine, imin BX right now i just cant find the file to edit for the gnome session start
[08:38] <Vince_> Not to be pissy.  But if your not going to help me solve the issue don't tell me not to use it
[08:39] <arrenlex> Enkidu1016: Oh! Can't help you there, sorry, I run kde.
[08:39] <Vince_> I tried both the Desktop and The Alternate CD images
[08:39] <Enkidu1016> arrenlex: ahh ok.. thanks
[08:39] <preVail> willskills, sorry im not registered. are you using the ca0106 driver?
[08:39] <Vince_> For the newest version
[08:39] <Flannel> Vince_: eh?  He was helping.  Calm down.   Platinum [CT4760P]
[08:39] <willskills>                       SBLive! Platinum [CT4760P]  (rev.5, serial:0x80401102) at 0
[08:39] <Vince_> Indy: If i get it installed, I'll upgrade from there
[08:40] <Vince_> I just want to get some version installed so I can get it running
[08:40] <greg> thats where applications places system are right?
[08:40] <IndyGunFreak> Vince_: good luck
[08:40] <preVail> ok, i asked because the sblive 24-bit doesnt support recording. the emu10k1 does though
[08:40] <Vince_> What I don't understand is why it won't install, I've used both Breezy and Dapper before
[08:41] <willskills> preVail right, well, I still can't get it to record.
[08:41] <preVail> willskills, have you configured the card correctly? (alsamixer)
[08:41] <Enkidu1016> anyone know what file to edit to make my CLI a smaller resolution ?
[08:41] <Vince_> Flannel, Yes I confirmed the MD5 Sum, Yes I burned at 4X, yes i've already seached google for over 5 hours.
[08:41] <Phatrabbit> Hi all i have been trying to get my nvidia drivers working for 3 wekes now 5 hours a day and i am about to shoto myself in the head :) somthing really weird is happening, i used sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common then sudo nvidia-xconfig  to update my drivers and it always crashed gnome when i restarted xserver. One day i turned it on with the nvidia config and it started working so ubuntu maby updated it automatically a
[08:41] <willskills> preVail I think so - do you use an IM at all? rather than continue this convo here :)
[08:41] <willskills> Phatrabbit - make sure you have the correct repos
[08:42] <Phatrabbit> everything is up to date and it worked once then i screwed it up
[08:42] <willskills> and you shouldnt need to install all that
[08:42] <willskills> just install the linux-restricted-modules, for your kernel version
[08:42] <willskills> then nvidia-glx
[08:42] <pinkyGal> preVail, thx mwah! ;-)
[08:42] <arrenlex> Vince_: You could try installing feisty, or you could try the alternate CD, or you could try installing something like debian and then changing the repositories, or you can try install.exe (ubuntu's or debian's) if you have windows.
[08:42] <Vince_> And frankly, I feel like a moron because I was just telling someone how easy to install this OS is.  I haven't used it since Breezy and I can't say w
[08:42] <Vince_> ith whats going on i'll be recommending this anymore.  I can't get a straight answer out of google or any forums.  And everyone tells me that the TYY issue is a known bug.
[08:42] <tommy12796> preVail, i went through the entire thing but nothing happened
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: why would he want to try and install feisty?
[08:43] <Phatrabbit> willskills: is that directed at me
[08:43] <preVail> try restarting X
[08:43] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Because nothing else works?
[08:43] <willskills> yes Phatrabbit
[08:43] <Victor```> What does Ubuntu set as the root password at install time? Something random?
[08:43] <DawnLight> how do i stop wget in a way that will be resumeable?
[08:43] <profx> how would I get Skype to install?
[08:43] <preVail> tommy12796, did you seelect a higher resolution?
[08:43] <profx> not showing up in Synaptic?
[08:43] <arrenlex> Victor```: There is no root account by default.
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: ah, i stopped following when he went on his little rant a second ago, sorry..
[08:43] <Flannel> Victor```: Ubuntu has the root account disabled, there is no valid root password
[08:43] <arrenlex> !sudo | Victor```
[08:43] <mike1o> Victor```, you decide
[08:43] <ubotu> Victor```: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:43] <tommy12796> preVail, yes
[08:43] <Madpilot> Victor```, by default, Ubuntu locks the root pw
[08:43] <Phatrabbit> willskills: ok i will give it a try but i have done it a thousand times
[08:43] <Victor```> arrenlex: i know
[08:43] <preVail> tommy12796, did you restart X?
[08:44] <willskills> Phatrabbit
[08:44] <Phatrabbit> in fact i will bpay 30 bux
[08:44] <tommy12796> preVail, erm x?
[08:44] <Phatrabbit> if someone can help
[08:44] <willskills> I can
[08:44] <willskills> PM me pls
[08:44] <d34l3r> I am back
[08:44] <willskills> I'm finding the link :P
[08:44] <d34l3r> pc smacked down
[08:44] <preVail> tommy12796, logout then log back in
[08:44] <d34l3r> last time
[08:44] <d34l3r> -.-
[08:44] <Victor```> I'm asking because I'm wondering how that works.
[08:44] <d34l3r> I got nvidia legacy drivers installed now - but direct rendering does not work yet
[08:44] <d34l3r> what 2 do?
[08:44] <DawnLight> hey peeps, how do i stop wget in a way that will be resumeable?
[08:45] <PanzerMKZ> wget -c
[08:45] <Flannel> Victor```: the hash stored is impossible to match (its characters that will never be in any hash)
[08:45] <arrenlex> Victor```: The root account has a no-login switch in /etc/password which means you can't log in as root, but you can still get permissions using sudo.
[08:45] <AppleNippleBOB> Hello, I have a generic question. I am trying to set up a remote acess tool that will allow me to securely connect to my home computer, so that I can acess files, launch programs (such as a torrent, or something of that sort), and do basic thing. X11 is optional, although prefered. I think that SSH is what I need, but I am not sure. I posted this earlier, but got no response. Not trying to spam.
[08:45] <arrenlex> Victor```: passwd
[08:45] <Victor```> :)
[08:45] <Victor```> es.
[08:45] <Vince_> arrenlex: If feisty is the unstable build I don't want to be using a version that I can't find documentation for.  I don't know enough to start with debian.  If I wanted to use debian i'd install it instead of Ubuntu, and yes I know its a dirivitive of debian to start with.    As for an install.exe.  That does sound interesting but how am I supposed to install from Windows if Windows cannot...
[08:45] <Vince_> ...read the EXT3 fileing system?
[08:45] <Victor```> was about to correct you.
[08:45] <Flannel> AppleNippleBOB: yes, you want SSH.  If you want, you can tunnel X over ssh as well.
[08:46] <Victor```> Flannel: so it makes a random hash at install time and stores it as the password?
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> Vince_: what type of media are you using?
[08:46] <AppleNippleBOB> Flannel, thanks a lot.
[08:46] <Phatrabbit> willskills: you want me to pm you was that directed at me ?
[08:46] <AppleNippleBOB> I just wasn't sure what to pick
[08:46] <willskills> p
[08:46] <Vince_> IndyGunFreak : TO burn the CD?  Memorex CD-R.
[08:46] <Enkidu1016> just to ask again.. anyone know how to make the command line interface a better resolution ?
[08:46] <d34l3r> how to fix Direct Rendering Problem?
[08:46] <Vince_> Except for my breazy CD which came from ShipIt
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> Vince_: hmm. never a problem with Memorex DVDRs
[08:46] <arrenlex> Vince_: If feisty actually installs, you can downgrade very easily. Debian and ubuntu are very very very similar, so much so that documentation for one will usually apply to the other; I use debian and I help out on #ubuntu all the time without any problems. Furthermore, if you don't want to use debian but would rather use ubuntu, you can change the repositories and change it to ubuntu with practically a single command.
[08:46] <Flannel> Victor```: No, say the hash was made up of a combination of [A-Z] , the hash (to check against) in the file would be 1, or something outside the range of possible hash values
[08:46] <d34l3r> I installed legacy driver already
[08:47] <Vince_> IndyGunFreak: I do not have a DVD Burner
[08:47] <arrenlex> Vince_: (sorry, tell me if that cut off)
[08:47] <d34l3r> for Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti 4200
[08:47] <d34l3r> now I need help to get direct rendering to work
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> Vince_: i asked becuse sometimes using DVD/CD RW's causes problems
[08:47] <d34l3r> I am at Xubuntu 6.10
[08:48] <Vince_> IndyGunFreak : But i'm not using DVD media
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: is it really that easy to "downgrade" ubuntu.  I've saw that post in here several times, everytime the brains tell them they are screwed.
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> Vince_: I KNOW THAT
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> Vince_: forget i asked
[08:48] <d34l3r> ??????
[08:48] <vegas> what do you guys recommend for a linux hard disk diagnostic tool?
[08:48] <arrenlex> Vince_: install.exe is very beta and it's more likely it won't work than it will, but you can always try. Ubuntu's and debian's install.exes are fundamentally different: ubuntu's actually installs the operating system from INSIDE windows, while debian's just bootstraps grub onto the MBR and dumps an initrd to ram so that the computer reboots and then you see the familiar debian-installer.
[08:48] <Ademan> !envy
[08:48] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[08:48] <Vince_> You know what
[08:48] <Vince_> I didn't come in here to get yelled at
[08:48] <arrenlex> Vince_: In both cases, a) windows doesn't need to read ext3, and b) if it did, there are lots of drivers for it.
[08:48] <S0crates> Hello everyone
[08:49] <IndyGunFreak> Vince_: i didn't yell, you're not listening.
[08:49] <Vince_> I'll just merge everything and forget dual booting and I'l quit telling peopke how awesome Ubuntu is because apparently somewhere thing got broke.
[08:49] <knight>  is it possible to boot windows already installed from linux?
[08:49] <Victor```> meh, i have to fsck my ext3 partition from freebsd...
[08:49] <vegas> one of the drives in my RAID0 set is going bad, so all I can do is use one of the livecd's that i have lying around
[08:49] <IndyGunFreak> i told you i only asked because people have problems with RW's, and you start telling me you're not using DVD's
[08:49] <knight> !vmware
[08:49] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[08:49] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Sure, it's plenty easy to downgrade. In theory you only need to add three lines to a conf file and issue one command. In practice, you sometimes have to do some creative conflict resolution, which isn't hard if you know what you're doing. I've done it many times.
[08:49] <d34l3r> plz someone help me....
[08:50] <d34l3r> 	<d34l3r>	hi
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: hmm, didn't realize it coudl even be done to be truthful.
[08:50] <d34l3r> 	<d34l3r>	I got some problem
[08:50] <d34l3r> 	<d34l3r>	I need to get direct rendering to work
[08:50] <d34l3r> 	<d34l3r>	I installed nvidia Legacy driver for Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti 4200
[08:50] <d34l3r> 	<d34l3r>	and I got Xubuntu 6.10
[08:50] <Flannel> !enter | d34l3r
[08:50] <ubotu> d34l3r: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:50] <Vince_> IndyGunFreak: No you asked me what I was using then said you had no problums with DVD media.  THen got pissed at me because I simply tried to say I did not have that option.
[08:50] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Sure. You just have to apt-pin to a release and dist-upgrade.
[08:50] <arrenlex> !apt-pinning | IndyGunFreak
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-pinning - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <arrenlex> !pinning | IndyGunFreak
[08:50] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[08:50] <d34l3r> Flannel nobody answers, thats the reason why I paste it...
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: thanks for the link... I'll check it out later.
[08:51] <Symmetria> heh wait, did I just read right that there is a windows installer for ubuntu that installs ubuntu while you're in windows?
[08:51] <Ademan> has anyone had problems with the envy driver installation script?
[08:51] <Symmetria> (even if its still beta)
[08:51] <Symmetria> please tell me I did not just see that
[08:51] <IndyGunFreak> Symmetria: yeah.. there is.
[08:51] <arrenlex> Vince_: You're being unfair. Ubuntu can't be checked on every possible combination of hardware, it's not possible. Sometimes combinations break. I'm sorry it happened to you, but ubuntu (and all software) relies on users to test and file bug reports to make it better. We can't help you, and I'm sorry about that, and I know it must be frustrating, but please don't take it out on ubuntu.
[08:51] <preVail> Symmetria, yeah i saw it on digg i think
[08:52] <d34l3r> ... feel free to ignore me -.- ...
[08:52] <S0crates> When I do the following command 'apt-get install libgnomevfs2-dev', Im getting this error 'libgnomevfs2-dev: Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.16.1-0ubuntu7 is to be installed  E: Broken Packages'  How do I fix this?
[08:52] <S0crates> Is this a broken dependency in the ubuntu repository?
[08:53] <crimsun> S0crates: make sure -updates is enabled, and refresh the apt cache
[08:53] <arrenlex> Symmetria: Trippy, isn't it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
[08:54] <sminons> I want to create a firewall which will block all ports incoming and outgoing but allow web browsing.
[08:54] <d34l3r> hey guys, I got some problems with direct rendering... I use Xubuntu 6.10 with an Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti 4200 and official legacy drivers... how 2 fix this?
[08:54] <sminons> what us the command for doing that?
[08:54] <darkcommon> what is RMS??
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> !patience | d34
[08:54] <ubotu> d34: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:54] <darkcommon> !rms
[08:54] <ubotu> rms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[08:54] <sminons> i tried "iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 80 -j ACCEPT "
[08:54] <preVail> sminons, you may want to have a look at the gentoo wiki. it has lots of in depth articles on what you want to do
[08:54] <darkcommon> !rms-video
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rms-video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <arrenlex> !w32codecs | darkcommon
[08:55] <ubotu> darkcommon: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:55] <S0crates> crimsun, sorry for being a debian noob, but how do I do those?
[08:56] <Ademan> !repositories
[08:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:56] <Vince_> arrenlex: No I understand that.  HOWEVER.  I have never had issues with Ubuntu untill this point.  I have a different mainboard and that is it.  Everything else i've had on a system running Ubuntu before.  Furthermore.    SO I did "AGIAN" and came up with nothing.  I come back and ask the question, several people start trying to answer but don't read the whole question so I end up wasting more hours chasing down solutions that have absolutely nothing to do with my problum.  Then I come back and people start getting on my...
[08:56] <Vince_> ...tweaked.
[08:56] <Vince_> ...case for using CD media.  Well im sorry thats all I have.  I used Breezy about a year ago and loved it.  And if I had an issue I could come in here and get help.  Something apparently got a werech thrown in it while I was away.
[08:57] <sminons> thank you preVail
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> wow, shut up and google it, haven't saw that one
[08:57] <mike1o> is there a feature that enables u to display an mp3 folder with the album jpg in that folder? if not, how would u suggest to go about creating it?
[08:57] <arrenlex> Vince_: No one in the channel knows. Our options are: a) ignore you, or b) give you half-helpful maybe-advice which might give you some leads
[08:57] <arrenlex> Vince_: Which do you prefer?
[08:57] <Phatrabbit> BPAY $30 bux no string attached if someone can get my nvidia drivers working  i have been trying to get my nvidia drivers working for 3 weeks now somthing really weird is happening, i used sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common then sudo nvidia-xconfig  to update my drivers and it always crashed gnome when i restarted xserver. One day i turned it on with the nvidia config and it started working so ubuntu maby updated it auto
[08:57] <Vince_> arrenlex: People to actualy read my problum.
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> mikelo:  I think amarok will do that.
[08:57] <mike1o> IndyGunFreak, i mean right inside gnome (or kde)
[08:58] <Phatrabbit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9782/ here is my xorg.conf
[08:58] <Helmi> hey guys - does anyone know of a good overview comparison between gnome and kde?
[08:58] <preVail> Phatrabbit, what video card do you have
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> mikelo  sorry not real sure
[08:58] <arrenlex> Helmi: Google for "flamewar" ;)
[08:58] <Ademan> Phatrabbit: no money, but can you describe the error a bit more? when you start up what exactly happens? a blue screen saying xorg error and crap like that?
[08:58] <Vince_> Which I will say you guys are the first people tonight who have even tried.  I know I'm being a pain by now.  But I do appreciate it
[08:58] <Phatrabbit> preVail: 6600 GT please pm me
[08:58] <bravelion> how do i change my clock?
[08:59] <Ademan> Phatrabbit: is it an error about an xorg driver mismatch?
[08:59] <Vince_> arrenlex: FlameWar... KDE and GNOME fanboys are worse than console fanboys
[08:59] <Phatrabbit> Ademan: xserver wont start up
[08:59] <Vince_> arrenlex: and it apparently ate my smilely.
[08:59] <Phatrabbit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9782/ that is my xorg.conf and this is my error logs wheni start up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9781/
[08:59] <Ademan> but it crashes right?  do you get a blue screen with like "would you like to view xorg error details" and crap like that?
[08:59] <Ademan> ah ok perfect with the error logs
[08:59] <mike1o> bravelion, system -> admin -> time & date
[08:59] <Phatrabbit> i will be happy to pay anyone that can help me i dont mind becos i have been trying for 3 weeks and i am going insane
[09:00] <arrenlex> Vince_: I'm sorry you had a bad experience. You could scout !hardware to see if your mainboard is mentioned somehow, you could report a bug, you could install in one of the creative ways mentioned, you could try another Linux distro, or you could try posting on the forums.
[09:00] <arrenlex> Vince_: Other than this general advice, there's really nothing I can recommend. Sorry.
[09:00] <Phatrabbit> and i know they are the correct drivers becos i got beryl to work on it once with up to date drivers
[09:00] <Enkidu1016> noone can help me with command promt resolution ?
[09:00] <jerb> i need to be paid in drugs
[09:00] <jeanre> is there a backport of gaim-cvs?
[09:01] <jeanre> or is the gaim in apt the latest?
[09:01] <jeanre> I dont like the icons
[09:01] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, did you install the driver from nvidia.com?
[09:01] <S0crates> OK, I ran 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' and both are up to date, but I'm still getting the same error.  Can someone verify if this is broken or not?
[09:01] <S0crates> When I do the following command 'apt-get install libgnomevfs2-dev', Im getting this error 'libgnomevfs2-dev: Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.16.1-0ubuntu7 is to be installed  E: Broken Packages'  How do I fix this?
[09:01] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, I think I might have had the same problem
[09:01] <bony> how to install 32 bit firefox on a 64bit os?
[09:01] <Vince_> arrenlex: I know and unfortunatly the general stuff is all stuff I tried before I ever got in here.  The problum is I need something specific and i'm sorry but I just feel like i've been treated like joe blow moron from the word go earlier today.  So at this point i'm just frustreated.  I don't want to give up because I know Ubuntu rocks.  Well I know at least it used to rock.  I haven't...
[09:01] <arrenlex> !chroot | bony
[09:01] <ubotu> bony: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[09:01] <Vince_> ...used it in over a year.
[09:02] <bony> arrenlex, thanks a lot! i will check that
[09:02] <Phatrabbit> mike1o: yer its fustrating
[09:02] <Ademan> Phatrabbit: have you modified your /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common ?   there should be a section that says DISABLED_MODULES=""    if you add nv to that it should work
[09:02] <Ademan> (and restart of course)
[09:02] <Ademan> i'll brb though, hopefully that will fix it
[09:02] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, do u have ubuntu nvidia installed?
[09:02] <Vince_> Well look.  Let me ask this then.  Is that TYY issue some sort of known bug?
[09:02] <arrenlex> Vince_: This channel isn't good for specific problems. The chances are that someone is on who encountered that exact problem is slim to none. Forums are a lot better for specific questions.
[09:03] <Ademan> unless you've done it already, in which case i'm at a loss
[09:03] <Phatrabbit> ok i will check it out i will tell you how it goes
[09:03] <Vince_> Is there a work around?
[09:03] <S0crates> Can anyone try this on there box, and see if it's broken?  See my last post.....
[09:03] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, i meant nvidia drivers
[09:03] <Ademan> Phatrabbit: i was pulling my hair out at a similar problem, that might help you
[09:03] <preVail> Phatrabbit, you could always do a manual install of the nvidia drivers
[09:03] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, I meant native ubuntu drivers
[09:03] <reyn> I'm sure you get these questions a million times a day, could someone point me to an apt dependency fixing howto ? libpng12-dev: Depends: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.8rel-5.1) but 1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[09:04] <purpleplether> how do you read vista "live file system" cd's?
[09:04] <purpleplether> ..in ubuntu edgy
[09:04] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, i resolved by removing the native nv drivers
[09:04] <S0crates> Is this package broken, can someone test if their system displays dependency issues?  "apt-get -s install libgnomevfs2-dev"
[09:04] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, did you recently update your kernel?
[09:04] <|Jason8|> Hey, how do I get back into the GUI from the command line?
[09:04] <Phatrabbit> yes mike
[09:04] <S0crates> ctrl-alt-F7
[09:05] <Phatrabbit> evreything is updated 100%
[09:05] <jerb> Firefox has been upgraded (or reinstalled) and must be restarted. Please quit and restart your web browser now.
[09:05] <jerb> brb
[09:05] <mike1o> |Jason8|, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:05] <Phatrabbit> prevail that sounds like a good plan but i dont think its a problem with the drivers its definetly a problem with a configuration file
[09:05] <arrenlex> Vince_: I assume in your hours of googling, you've seen this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279884
[09:06] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[09:06] <Vuen> hey #ubuntu. my clock correctly adjusted for daylight saving time without me having to do a single thing. just wanted to say thanks for making my operating system perfect and worry-free.
[09:06] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex: lmao
[09:06] <xtarburst> hi
[09:06] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Did I say something I will be yelled at for? xD
[09:06] <Phatrabbit> Ademan: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common already has DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[09:06] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[09:06] <Phatrabbit> any other ideas
[09:06] <preVail> Phatrabbit, well it crashes right after compisiting is enabled
[09:06] <S0crates> Is this package broken, can someone test if their system displays dependency issues?  "apt-get -s install libgnomevfs2-dev"
[09:07] <shmuelix> help. i get this message every time i run apt-get install or update. [0% [Connecting to il.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] ]
[09:07] <Vince_> arrenlex: Yes... The problum is any time anyone discusses it they seem to have updated rather than installed from CD, so they're are solutions tha tthey can get in the Hard Drive mess with GRUB or some other files and it fixes this.  However i'm getting this on the installation CD
[09:07] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, did u upgrade your kernel recently?
[09:08] <preVail> damn, forget it was daylight savings
[09:08] <preVail> im headin to bed
[09:08] <preVail> see ya
[09:08] <arrenlex> Vince_: Skimming over that page, it seems they're saying it's a common problem with liveCD installations. You could try installing from the alternate (textmode) cd.
[09:09] <S0crates> Can anyone read what I am typing?  If so, please comment on my last post.... Thank you everyone for your help today!
[09:09] <Vince_> arrenlex:  I thought I had the alternate CD.  I can't tell though because I deleted the ISO image when I reformated the drive.  I guess i'll re download the image, maybe I picked up the wrong one.
[09:09] <Phatrabbit> mike1o: yes i have
[09:09] <Phatrabbit> but that was before i done the install
[09:09] <arrenlex> Vince_: LiveCD = GUI, alternate = text-based menus.
[09:10] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, original nvidia drivers need to be compiled with the current kernel headers and conflict with ubuntu nv drivers
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> Vince_: the alternate install CD is a text based install.
[09:10] <arrenlex> !alternate | Vince_
[09:10] <ubotu> Vince_: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[09:10] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, have u tried reinstalling nvidia.com's drivers?
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> now didn't i suggest the alternate cd like 10min ago
[09:11] <IndyGunFreak> no wait, i was going to...., till the attitude
[09:11] <S0crates>  I am getting very disgrunted with the Ubuntu community.  So man people are starting to use it, yet so many of their users are unhelpful.. What can I do to get help?
[09:11] <mike930> I'm having trouble getting my wireless card to connect at start up, I have to manually run a connection script once I log in. Anyone have any ideas on a workaround?
[09:11] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: Drop it, please.
[09:11] <albacker> GUYS i downloaded something with firefox and at the download window i choose [open with]  and not save to disk.. it was chosen so i didn't change it. after downloading the file-roller window was opened with the file in it.. i exited it, so i could open from terminal, and the file wasn't in ~/DOcuments/downloads/firefox where i keep my firefox downloads, and maybe because i just did open with, and not save to disk.. but it must have been saved somewhe
[09:11] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[09:11] <albacker> re..can someone help me ?!
[09:11] <willskills> S0crates if people don't know the answer - you can't expect one
[09:11] <arrenlex> S0crates: I would help you, but I don't run ubuntu. xD
[09:11] <Phatrabbit> no i have just used Envy pearl script and also using sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:12] <Ademan> Phatrabbit: you could TRY Composite "Disable"   if what mike1o is right about the composite problem
[09:12] <Vince_> Ok agian, I know what the difference is.  Is the text mode install on the Alternate CD simmilar to the install from the Breezy Install CD?
[09:12] <arrenlex> Vince_: Is the breezy install CD white text menus on a blue background?
[09:12] <Ademan> Vince_: yes it should be like the old one
[09:12] <arrenlex> Vince_: beige menus? *
[09:12] <Albert> !ati
[09:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:12] <S0crates> willskills, That's certainly understandable, but I'm just asking someone who runs ubuntu to see if 'apt-get -s install libgnomevfs2-dev' shows a dependency error.
[09:12] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, sudo apt-get remove nvdia* ... that was causing me problems
[09:13] <Phatrabbit> ooo ok will do
[09:13] <darkcommon> a dreamwaver for ubuntu 6.10?
[09:13] <Phatrabbit> done
[09:13] <mike1o> Phatrabbit, just use nvidia.com's drivers
[09:13] <willskills> S0crates - not for me, not
[09:13] <willskills> S0crates - check PM for my output
[09:14] <arrenlex> albacker: Look in /tmp
[09:14] <Vince_> Alright.. I'll try downloading the alternate image and see if that fixes it.  I thought I had the alternate but I think I got the Desktop CD instead.
[09:14] <null_> Ubuntu is a silly name.
[09:14] <Ademan> Phatrabbit: i just had the envy script RUIN my ATI computer, i don't trust it for much :-)
[09:14] <albacker> arrenlex, THANKYOU SIR ! :D
[09:14] <null_> Can we call it something cool from now on?
[09:14] <null_> Like, Xubuntu!
[09:14] <mike930> anyone know how to get a rt61 wireless card to load at start up?
[09:14] <arrenlex> albacker: Move it out of there or it'll be gone when you quit firefox.
[09:14] <S0crates> willskills,  OK, thank you man.  It's gotta be something else then
[09:14] <albacker> arrenlex, i did :)
[09:14] <Phatrabbit> Ademan: yer it has screwed me around alot i am never using it again besides the easy restart xserver option :)
[09:15] <shmuelix> how do i change the main ubuntu repository (il.archive.ubuntu.com) is not responding me ?
[09:15] <Vince_> Thanks for your help guys.  And I'm sorry for being such a pain.  Its 4AM here and after the ammount of frustration this has given me today i'm afraid I just popped on you guys and I didn't mean too.
[09:15] <arrenlex> Phatrabbit: There's an easier way to restart X than ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:15] <Ademan> Vince_: no harm done
[09:16] <Phatrabbit> arrenlex: thats if you are inside gnome or your shell
[09:16] <Phatrabbit> you cant use that in CML
[09:16] <arrenlex> Phatrabbit: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:17] <Phatrabbit> arrenlex: yes thats alot harder then typing ENVY then 6 on your keyboard :P
[09:17] <Phatrabbit> im lazy
[09:17] <arrenlex> Phatrabbit: Make a script to do that and give it a name like "r". Then you can just type r and press enter.
[09:17] <Ademan> if gdm is still running couldn't you just call startx?
[09:17] <Phatrabbit> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[09:17] <Ademan> that's what i've been doing
[09:17] <Phatrabbit> arrenlex: yer i will make a script when i can get my vid drivers working first
[09:18] <Phatrabbit> brb i need to try a few things
[09:18] <arrenlex> Ademan: That works for you? I get "X server already active on display 0"
[09:18] <Ademan> arrenlex: hrm, dunno, but yeah it's always worked for me :-)
[09:19] <Ademan> but now i gotta go try and fix a computer envy ruined
[09:19] <greg_> can anybody tell me why it is when i push the minimize key on a window it dissappears rather than going down to the panel bar????
[09:19] <berto-> hi everyone.  i'm running ubuntu 6.06 and am having problems with AT.  if i queue a job, the time passes and the job remains in the active queue indefinitely.  any ideas?
[09:19] <arrenlex> greg_: Do you have a taskbar in your panel?
[09:21] <mike930> anyone have any experience with rt61 wireless cards?
[09:21] <greg_> i dont know maybe is that where your app places system  is
[09:21] <kathy> hi
[09:21] <arrozconevan> hey does anyone know if wine will work with downloadable yahoo games?
[09:21] <arrozconevan> my mom wants to use one of them sooo bad
[09:22] <charl_ie> !anyone | mike930
[09:22] <ubotu> mike930: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:22] <Frogzoo> !appdb | arrozconevan
[09:22] <ubotu> arrozconevan: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:22] <arrozconevan> frogzoo i thought many would work even if it wasn't listed
[09:22] <billy> greetings fellow earth_creatures.
[09:23] <arrozconevan> is it just me or is the wine site incredibly slow
[09:23] <arrenlex> billy: Do you have to say that EVERY time you come in? xD
[09:23] <billy> arrenlex : but of course.  I simply must greet my fellow earth_creatures. :)
[09:23] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[09:23] <IndyGunFreak> billy: i think its very rude you do not include aliens in your greetings.. ;)
[09:24] <greg_> arrenlex yeah i have a taskbar
[09:24] <{NmE}> What is the chan for beryl again?
[09:24] <omeil> Can someone help me with making Savage work
[09:24] <omeil> ?
[09:24] <berto-> arrozconevan: you can always install windows in vmware.
[09:24] <arrozconevan> shit
[09:24] <billy> IndyGunFreak : I hail from Sirius Prime.  I would have a serious discussion (pun intended) with any non_earth_creature who has an issue.
[09:24] <{NmE}> I need help with beryl
[09:24] <Frogzoo> makuseru: /etc/sysctl.conf
[09:24] <{NmE}> can some oen please help me?
[09:24] <arrozconevan> my mom likes ubuntu but she cant get "word slinger" to work
[09:24] <IndyGunFreak> billy: lol
[09:25] <arrozconevan> its one of those games you buy for you computer off of yahoo games
[09:25] <charl_ie> mike930: which version or ubuntu are you running?
[09:25] <Frogzoo> makuseru: net.core.rmem_default = 524288
[09:25] <Frogzoo> net.core.rmem_max = 524288
[09:25] <arrenlex> Has anyone EVER typed "man mount" and not felt dirty?
[09:25] <mike930> charl_ie: edgy
[09:25] <Frogzoo> makuseru: lastly net.ipv4.tcp_rfc1337 = 1
[09:26] <{NmE}> What is the chan for beryl again?
[09:26] <omeil>     Option         "UseFBDev" "true"
[09:26] <omeil>     Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" should i leave them like that?
[09:26] <nekr0z> arrenlex: I have :)
[09:26] <charl_ie> try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822
[09:26] <xtarburst> Hello GUYS I need your help installing UBUNTO on one of the new VISTA PC'S, I get these 2 MSGS: 17179726.476000 hda: ide_int:huh? expected NULLhanler on exit /// 17179726.524000 buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 357564
[09:26] <profx> #beryl
[09:26] <profx> anyone getting Logitech webcams working?
[09:26] <{NmE}> well, FOR ubuntu though.. i was just in it..
[09:26] <arooni> what is a good gui based ftp app?
[09:27] <profx> #ubuntu-effects
[09:27] <greg_> hello me its me again sure has been nice talking to myself
[09:27] <Frogzoo> arrozconevan: dude you're hallucinating
[09:27] <nekr0z> arooni: I used to use kbear
[09:27] <makuseru> Frogzoo: wow, you knew what i wanted to do, thanks.....ill try that as soon as i finish this paper
[09:27] <arrozconevan> what do you mean frogzoo
[09:27] <arrozconevan> sorry im a total newbie
[09:27] <arooni> can i use putty for ftp?
[09:27] <IndyGunFreak> be ack\
[09:27] <Frogzoo> err arrenlex soz arrozconevan damn tab
[09:27] <charl_ie> mike930: if that's a bit complicated you could use ndiswrapper
[09:27] <arrozconevan> i just heard about ubuntu on digg and decided to instal it
[09:27] <profx> arooni: sure
[09:28] <arrozconevan> ;)
[09:28] <profx> it has a built in FTP client
[09:28] <omeil>  Option         "Composite" "Enable" should i turn composite on or off for my vid card?
[09:28] <arooni> profx: what protocol do i use for ftp
[09:28] <arrozconevan> frogzoo do you think there is anyway i can run this stupid word slinger game on ubuntu lol
[09:28] <mike930> charl_ie: i have the connection running I just can't get it to run at startup
[09:28] <profx> protocol?
[09:28] <arooni> i dont see one listed... perhpas telnet?
[09:28] <profx> ftp....
[09:28] <arooni> thats not listed
[09:28] <profx> u ssh into somewhere
[09:28] <Frogzoo> arrozconevan: 2 options - try wine 1st, if that doesn't work, vmware
[09:28] <arooni> ssh == ftp?
[09:28] <profx> and use FTP inside
[09:29] <profx> ssh != ftp
[09:29] <arrozconevan> how do I know if it works in wine or not
[09:29] <arooni> well
[09:29] <arooni> how do i do this
[09:29] <profx> arooni, use command line
[09:29] <profx> you can ftp
[09:29] <arooni> with putty .. if theres no ftp
[09:29] <arooni> i'd like a gui based ftp app
[09:29] <arooni> theres none :(?
[09:29] <arrozconevan> what happened was it went through the install perfectly and everything, but then it said run Word Slinger now and it didint open
[09:29] <arrenlex> arooni: gftp
[09:29] <arrozconevan> does that mean it doesnt work for sure? heh
[09:29] <Frogzoo> arrozconevan: you either check appdb or you try it
[09:29] <profx> someone posted a response before
[09:29] <nekr0z> arooni: kbear, gftp -- lot of them
[09:29] <Ademan> fscking ENVY!!! it ruined my computer... i can't boot into recovery mode, nothing, i can get to a login shell, but i can't login as root, i can't login as the normal user, nothing (when i login as a normal user i get some crap about /dev/null and then i loose my prompt)
[09:29] <ax7> yo
[09:29] <arrozconevan> the install worked
[09:30] <arrenlex> arrozconevan: Have you tried opening it in the shell?
[09:30] <profx> and btw putty is farthest from a GUI
[09:30] <profx> incase u didnt realize
[09:30] <arrozconevan> i right clicked on the exe file and clicked open with wine
[09:30] <profx> Ademan reinstall?
[09:31] <arrozconevan> did i do something wrong?
[09:31] <profx> ok, who has their Logitech camera working
[09:31] <ax7> confidential
[09:31] <andreseso> Hello, how do I get in touch with the package mantainers?  I would like to suggest linking a package with different libraries
[09:31] <Ademan> profx: if only that was an option
[09:31] <profx> Ademan, why not?
[09:31] <nekr0z> arrozconevan: I would take command line, go to the directory where you have that game, and type "wine RunGame.exe" or whatever the exe is called
[09:32] <arrozconevan> ok
[09:32] <Ademan> i've got stuff i need on that box
[09:32] <profx> u didnt partition then?
[09:32] <Ademan> there's a couple, ones an anchient windows partition
[09:32] <Ademan> hrm i guess i could use samba to back up to my file server
[09:32] <profx> ok, so you can access the partitions, more than likely
[09:33] <nekr0z> Guys, is there a way to leave a message to the person who's not online right now?
[09:33] <profx> in irc?
[09:33] <profx> nope
[09:34] <Ademan> yeah, i can, but i still can't believe envy did that much crap to my computer, it seems it broke something in my init.d
[09:34] <nekr0z> profx: I heard about some bots that do the trick, wonder if they are available here on this server...
[09:34] <profx> well, live and learn, get your info, format and continue
[09:34] <profx> i dont beleive they are, but I am sure #help could give you the answer
[09:34] <arrozconevan> wait whoever made wine made tweaked wine for each program they want to run, or does wine work with random programs that the developers of wine have never even heard of?
[09:35] <profx> believe*
[09:35] <willskills> S0crates - what repos you got?
[09:35] <willskills> S0crates - you might need restricted modules
[09:35] <nekr0z> profx: Yeah, I should have asked in #help. Have just got up from bed, brain not working too good.
[09:35] <arrenlex> arrozconevan: Wine is designed to work for any program. In practice, it works best with popular programs about which many people have reported bugs and contributed patches, but you're welcoem to try.
[09:36] <profx> ah
[09:36] <profx> well get a coffee and get moving
[09:36] <andreseso> I would like subversion and apache2 linked with a different libraries.  They are currently linked with libapr0 and I would like to finc out it it were possible  to link them with libapr1 so they would not be limited by the 2GB limit
[09:37] <domination> I need to downgrade a package to a different version.  What command would I use to downgrade a single package without changing dependancys???
[09:37] <arrenlex> domination: Do you know the version?
[09:37] <arrozconevan> arrenlex: wierd, it seemed to open run teh instal perfectly, but the actual exe for the game wont budge
[09:37] <r4nge> what does the "s" mean in r-s under file permissions
[09:37] <arrenlex> arrozconevan: Oh, it's a game? Except WoW and other really popular games, wine doesn't handle those well.
[09:38] <arrozconevan> lol my mom is gooing  to be pissed
[09:38] <domination> r4nge, "suid" you'll want to read about it. it means different things depending if it's for ugo
[09:38] <MrFlibble_> r4nge: either setuid or setgid depending on where it is in the list.
[09:38] <arrozconevan> she bought this stupid scrabble game for 20 dollars
[09:38] <arrozconevan> before i installed linux
[09:38] <profx> please, dont talk about WoW in here
[09:38] <arrenlex> arrozconevan: lol, scrabble? That doesn't sound graphics intensive. xD Install it in vmware\qemu.
[09:38] <arrenlex> profx: ?
[09:38] <domination> arrenlex, yes, I downloaded the deb that I want to install in place of the existing one
[09:38] <r4nge> it's under the group permission only
[09:38] <profx> I just cancelled my subscription
[09:38] <reyn> Looks like the same version to me :( ... are they from different repositories ? what am I doing wrong ? libpng12-dev: Depends: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.8rel-5.1) but 1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[09:38] <arrenlex> domination: Oh! Well then, sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[09:39] <arrozconevan> can you show me how, is it easy
[09:39] <profx> i am going through withdrawl
[09:39] <arrozconevan> arrenlex, can you message me on aim?
[09:39] <r4nge> screen command in the /usr/bin
[09:39] <arrenlex> arrozconevan: No. Join #arrenlex
[09:40] <andreseso> So I would like to know if it were possible for them to release subversion and apache2 debs linked with libapr1 instead  of libapr0
[09:41] <MrFlibble_> r4nge: if it's in the group permissions, then it means setgid.  If it's on an executable file, then anyone who executes that program will temporarily "become" a member of the group which owns the file.  If it's on a directory, then every file created within that directory will be owned by that group.
[09:42] <r4nge> i guess that answers that :)
[09:42] <r4nge> thanks
[09:42] <profx> bbiab
[09:42] <Albert> hi, can somebody tell me where my icons are stored?
[09:42] <Askar> How do I make my musicplayer see my wma files? Do I need to convert all of them? :(
[09:43] <null_> askar, you need to find a music player that supports them
[09:44] <sbn> Hi
[09:44] <sbn> Can you transform an serverinstallation into a desktop?
[09:44] <willskills> yes
[09:44] <Askar> null_: Hmm ok.. I have tried a lot of musicplayer and really likes "listen".. do you know if it is possible to make it support them?
[09:45] <sbn> and is it hard to do that?
[09:45] <sbn> or just some apt-get ?
[09:46] <mike1o> !envy
[09:46] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[09:47] <andreseso> Askar: You might need the win32 codecs or win65 codecs from mplayerhq.hu
[09:47] <Guerrand> any experienced instability with the nvidia drivers?
[09:47] <arrozconevan> !vmware
[09:47] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:48] <genii> Are there any good tools to recover/repair corrupted vob files?
[09:48] <willskills`afk> Guerrand nope, I am running WoW quite happily right now
[09:49] <Guerrand> hmm if i sit there and keep moving window sizes .... just on the desktop ... then my system will crash out
[09:49] <Guerrand> though i can watch a movie using the hardware accel .. and its not a problem :/
[09:52] <v4m21> My ubuntu is automounting all my windows partations at boot time as root, is there any way to force ubuntu to mount them under given user name so that ordernary users doen't need to have sudo access ?
[09:53] <reyn> Looks like the same version to me :( ... are they from different repositories ? what am I doing wrong ? libpng12-dev: Depends: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.8rel-5.1) but 1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[09:53] <arkindal> hello
[09:54] <v4m21> can anybody help me with my automounting as root problem ?
[09:55] <billy> to play a CD with XMMS, wouldn't I select "Play Directory"?
[09:56] <IndyGunFreak> I am the keymaster, are you TheGateKeeper
[09:56] <nekr0z> v4m21: Are you using dapper or edgy?
[09:56] <billy> The Never Ending Story?
[09:57] <IndyGunFreak> billy: Ghostbusters...lol
[09:57] <Ademan> hey how can i mount a filesystem and ensure that it's not ONLY readonly?
[09:57] <billy> oh yeah.  duh.
[09:57] <emet> does anyone use windows here
[09:57] <billy> emet, from time to time.
[09:57] <Ademan> i used to :-)
[09:57] <nekr0z> Ademan: It depends on what filesystem it is.
[09:58] <emet> lol
[09:58] <Ademan> nekr0z: it's ext3
[09:58] <Ademan> for whatever reason recovery mode mounts my root filesystem read only
[09:58] <led_> only for work :))
[09:58] <Ademan> and i NEED write in order to fix what envy screwed up
[09:59] <Ademan> for everyone listening, do NOT use envy... it ruined my system and i'm talking to someone else whos system it ruined
[09:59] <Ademan> !envy
[09:59] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[09:59] <nekr0z> Ademan: Why not boot with a live CD and mount it as you need it?

[09:59] <brno223> this may be a daft question - how do I find the installed BitTorrent client?
[09:59] <billy> Looks like I'm stuck using Sound Juicer.  oh well.
[09:59] <v4m21> nekroz: its edgy.
[09:59] <enderxim> brno223: want azurues? it's in the repos, apt-get install azureus
[09:59] <Ademan> nekr0z: thats a possibility, i don't really care to though, since i'm already booted into recovery mode
[09:59] <nekr0z> Ademan: You shall also see the output and see what is the problem about FS.
[09:59] <brno223> got azureus - it's BitTorrent I'm after
[10:00] <Ademan> brno223: should be in /usr/bin somewhere probably just "bittorrent"
[10:00] <brno223> ...Synaptic PM says it's installed
[10:00] <enderxim> brno223: and if you'd like it in your gnome menu, edit menu, internet, select BitTorrent
[10:01] <nekr0z> Ademan: The thing is, root fs is automatically remounted as r/o if there's a problem. And it's extremely unsafe to force it r/w... You'd better localize the reason it remounts for first.
[10:01] <Ademan> although i really reccoment ktorrent or i think deluge was supposed to be good
[10:01] <v4m21> nekroz: I even edited fstab options column to "auto,user" but still ubuntu is not letting me create or modify files on windows partation.
[10:01] <enderxim> yeah, deluge is great, doesn't require the resources azureus needs
[10:01] <willskills`afk> yeah it rocks :)
[10:01] <Ademan> nekr0z: well several of my /etc/init.d/ scripts failed, because apparently /bin/sh doesn't exist, so i was going to re-link /bin/sh to /bin/bash
[10:01] <enderxim> i still prefer azureus ;-)
[10:01] <willskills`afk> I actually find azerues is buggy
[10:02] <nekr0z> v4m21: Then it should be the udev thing. Try tweaking in /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permission.rules
[10:02] <willskills`afk> often it crashes after starting
[10:02] <v4m21> k
[10:02] <enderxim> i haven't had that problem. what jdk/jre are you using?
[10:02] <eck> rtorrent is the best :-)
[10:03] <nekr0z> Ademan: That's not a reason to remount root. There should be more of a problem.
[10:04] <badger3424> hey when page loads are going real slow what do i need to disable again? My speeds are fine its just web browsing page loads
[10:04] <badger3424> i forget the fix but i needed to disable something, thanks in advance
[10:05] <Ademan> nekr0z: well it refused to let me mount with write anyways
[10:05] <z9999> Prior to OS reinstall, ubuntu 6.06, we could clear the terminal screen with a 'clear' command. No longer works, any idea what needs to be done?
[10:05] <eck> z9999: usually ctrl-l does the same thing
[10:06] <nekr0z> Ademan: I still advise a live CD, so that you don't depent on root filesystem and can at least check it for consistecy.
[10:07] <z9999> eck: ctrl-l doesn't work either.
[10:07] <badger3424> anyone?
[10:07] <eck> z9999: i guess it could be a problem with your terminal emulator -- try another one
[10:08] <eck> badger3424: is it tcp window scaling? i'm not really sure what you would disable
[10:08] <z9999> eck: And where is that done.
[10:08] <eck> z9999: try, for example, running xtem
[10:08] <eck> xterm
[10:08] <badger3424> it was something i had to disable via system and then browser
[10:08] <z9999> eck: no options? just xterm.
[10:08] <eck> z9999: that is correct
[10:08] <badger3424> i think it had to do with hardware excel
[10:09] <badger3424> i think its ipv6
[10:10] <genii> Is there some smart demux/remux program which can salvage damaged vob files?
[10:11] <z9999> eck: xterm opens a smaller terminal screen which we can type in and use clear to clear the screen.
[10:11] <cornucopia> hi all
[10:11] <eck> z9999: then i guess something is wrong with whatever terminal emulator (probably gnome-terminal) you were using; i don't really know enough about this to know what could cause such a problem
[10:12] <seshomaru1234> hi , i made a new user and i want to give him sudo rights , i know i need to go visudo /etc/sudoers but can someone tell me what to put in the sudoers file?
[10:13] <eck> seshomaru1234: you just need to put the user in a group that can sudo
[10:13] <cornucopia> seshomaru1234, on ubuntu every regular user should have sudo rights
[10:13] <brno223> Thanks guys, I found BitTorrent but can't work out how to configure it. Guess I'll stick with Azureus.
[10:13] <eck> seshomaru1234: on ubuntu the group is admin
[10:13] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[10:14] <cornucopia> makuseru, sysctl -a ?
[10:14] <seshomaru1234> eck - thanks
[10:14] <brno223> anyone use Opera for bittorrent? my copy keeps crashing on me...
[10:15] <makuseru> cornucopia: what does that do?
[10:16] <cornucopia> makuseru, list all kernel options that can be set with sysctl -w for example
[10:16] <z9999> eck: We're trying to find out what terminal type is defined, but not sure where to look yet, guess we will have to dig.
[10:16] <eck> z9999: echo $TERM
[10:16] <eck> it should be set to xterm
[10:16] <makuseru> there no easier way to adjust thee  Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[10:16] <apu> hi all
[10:17] <eck> makuseru: you must use sysctl (or directly edit /proc)
[10:17] <apu> how can i write dovn a cd iso to a dvd with k3b?
[10:17] <makuseru> what ever is easiest
[10:17] <Askar> How do I cd to the folder "Min musik" in the terminal? :S
[10:17] <z9999> eck: That returns xterm, now it gets more confusing.
[10:17] <Ademan> hrm, actually what is a good torrent client "like" ktorrent that's actually in the repositories?
[10:17] <apu> Askar: cd Min\ musik
[10:17] <willskills> Ademan - deluge
[10:17] <Askar> apu: thanks
[10:17] <apu> np
[10:17] <Ademan> willskills: not in the repositories is it?
[10:18] <cornucopia> Askar, cd Min + press tab and finally press enter
[10:18] <willskills> erm I think so?
[10:18] <willskills> I installed from apt I think?
[10:18] <Ademan> well there's no deluge package i can see
[10:18] <Askar> cornucopia: that didnt wok cause I had lot of folders beginning with Min
[10:18] <willskills> ok, maybe in an additional repo I have
[10:18] <willskills> :/
[10:18] <Ademan> willskills: if you could figure out which one it was i'd be forever grateful :-)
[10:19] <willskills> ok
[10:19] <willskills> sec
[10:19] <phatrabbit> !pastebin
[10:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:19] <cornucopia> Askar, cd Min  + space + press tab and finally press enter
[10:19] <profXavier> i have a Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX, and I am trying to get it working, anyone able to offer something new to try?
[10:19] <purpleplether> how do you read vista "live file system" cd's? in ubuntu
[10:20] <MrFlibble_> Two questions: I think I've found a bug in a package in Ubuntu 6.10 which is already fixed in a package in Debian Testing.  1) how do I work out whether the new version is already in FeistyFawn, and 2) is it appropriate to file a bug report against 6.10 (since I think it only gets security fixes now)?
[10:20] <profXavier> last thing I tried was to get gspcav1-20070110.tar.gz
[10:20] <profXavier> but, that didnt work
[10:21] <willskills> Ademan - it's in repo's from fiesty, check here; http://deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Downloads
[10:21] <eck> MrFlibble_: you should look in launchpad.net for the but
[10:21] <Tomcat_> MrFlibble_: packages.ubuntu.com has a list, or ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:21] <eck> s/but/bug/
[10:21] <Tomcat_> MrFlibble_: And yes, you should definitely file bugs for supported Ubuntu versions, even if it's fixed in the next.
[10:21] <makuseru> how can i change the Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) value?
[10:21] <Ademan> willskills: ah, well maybe when i upgrade then
[10:22] <purpleplether> so is there a way?
[10:22] <eck> makuseru: http://proj.sunet.se/E2E/tcptune.html
[10:23] <cornucopia> makuseru, http://proj.sunet.se/E2E/tcptune.html
[10:23] <MrFlibble_> Tomcat_: thanks for the package list; I couldn't find one when I looked - obviously didn't look hard enough ;-)
[10:23] <arkindal> anyone use world of warcraft with wine here?
[10:23] <Tomcat_> MrFlibble_: Apart from the Firefox searchplugin, that page is not linked in obvious places. :)
[10:23] <Ademan> arkindal: no, do you have a question about it? or are you wondering if it really works?
[10:23] <makuseru> what file do thoes values get edited in?
[10:24] <makuseru> all that shows is what to set it to, i dont see where it says to edit it
[10:24] <Ademan> because i've run counter strike source, half life 2 and even some of the really obscure half life 2 mods under wine
[10:24] <Askar> Does anyone know if listen music player has an irc channel?
[10:24] <arkindal> Ademan: i have a question, i have installed it, but it freeze
[10:24] <arkindal> (dunno why)
[10:24] <eck> makuseru: what do you mean? that _is_ how you edit it
[10:24] <MrFlibble_> Looks like Feisty is going to have the new (fixed) version.
[10:24] <makuseru> type thoes in in a term?
[10:24] <eck> that is correct
[10:24] <makuseru> oh
[10:25] <profXavier> v4l is giving me: Device "/dev/video0" does not exist
[10:25] <makuseru> i knew that <<
[10:25] <Tomcat_> makuseru: These values are not loaded from any config file but are present in the kernel itself... so to change it, you pass values to the kernel directly.
[10:25] <makuseru> ok
[10:25] <makuseru> thanks guys
[10:26] <arkindal> can someone tell me how can i install a gz game 3d to test my 3d acceleration?
[10:26] <profXavier> ok, looks like its waiting until tmr
[10:26] <profXavier> nite ppl
[10:26] <klimraamkosie> How do I enter DNS servers, whenever I restart my eth0 my DNS servers gets reset to the router, I want to add 2.
[10:26] <eck> klimraamkosie: /etc/resolv.conf
[10:26] <klimraamkosie> when I restart eth0, it resets that file.
[10:27] <eck> klimraamkosie: then turn off dhcp
[10:27] <klimraamkosie> eck: Can't I use DHCP and add a DNS server?
[10:28] <eck> i think you can put the information in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:29] <eck> you could also have a script that runs the correct 'route' commands
[10:30] <cornucopia> klimraamkosie, the dns server is normally asigned via the dhcp server
[10:31] <klimraamkosie> yeah cornucopia?
[10:32] <dabertman> what channel should a complete flustered newbie goto?
[10:32] <Lynoure> dabertman: if they want support, this one is quite good
[10:32] <klimraamkosie> cornucopia:  It is yes, but I have a problem.  The DNS servers that are given by my ISPs router to my router don't work.
[10:32] <arkindal> still no one playng wow with wine?
[10:32] <Lynoure> dabertman: if just to chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:33] <klimraamkosie> and my router's DNSs change back every time it connects
[10:33] <dabertman> no chat im 4 hrs into this and i cant get my second windows hardrive to mounthardrive
[10:34] <reyn> Looks like the same version to me :( ... are they from different repositories ? what am I doing wrong ? libpng12-dev: Depends: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.8rel-5.1) but 1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[10:35] <Lynoure> dabertman: sorry, I did not get whether you didn't get MS windows to mount an ubuntu partition or the other way around?
[10:36] <dabertman> im on ubuntu cant see my windows hard drive
[10:37] <willskills> dabertman - have you mounted it?
[10:37] <dabertman> im guessing no
[10:37] <willskills> ok, search the forums
[10:37] <Lynoure> dabertman: Is it NTFS or fat32?
[10:37] <willskills> there are a million howto's on how to do that
[10:37] <reyn> libpng12-dev: Depends: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.8rel-5.1) but 1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1 is to be installed, Is there some way to force the installation for the other one ?
[10:37] <willskills> and how to have it auto-done on boot
[10:37] <willskills> it is very simple
[10:39] <Askar> How do I convert wma to mp3? Tried script from ubuntuforums but didnt work.. :(
[10:39] <Lynoure> dabertman: see http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[10:40] <AnAnt> if windows is installed after ubuntu, how can I reinstall grub ?
[10:40] <brno223> can i mange udp ports with firestarter?
[10:41] <IndyGunFreak> Askar:   http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert
[10:41] <billy> AnAnt : try a Super Grub Disc.
[10:41] <AnAnt> billy: huh
[10:41] <AnAnt> billy: huh ?
[10:41] <billy> AnAnt : one moment.
[10:41] <dabertman> will read probably be back soon as ive been reading everywhere for a few hours thanx tho
[10:42] <AnAnt> billy: I did boot from ubuntu install CD
[10:42] <alan__> hi everybody. Where's the /etc/modules.conf in ubuntu?
[10:42] <billy> AnAnt: that's fine.  give me a moment to find the super grub disc, I'll be right with you.
[10:42] <willskills> alan__ it's /etc/modules
[10:42] <alan__> ok. thanks sir! :)
[10:43] <eric> hello
[10:44] <eric> Hello everyone, I'm looking for a GPL soft for learning english for kids (10 years old)
[10:45] <billy> AnAnt: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot/Super-Grub-Disk-8071.shtml
[10:46] <Lynoure> AnAnt: If you just want to use the livecd, you can follow the instructions at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[10:47] <AnAnt> Lynoure: I used the alternate CD, I mounted the root partition, I did chroot
[10:47] <AnAnt> Lynoure: then I did grub-install (hd0), but it failed
[10:48] <AnAnt> Lynoure: it says that /boot/grub/stage1 is not read correctly
[10:48] <billy> AnAnt: you want GRUB on your second partition.  use that super GRUB disc I just linked you to.
[10:48] <AnAnt> billy: what second partition ?
[10:49] <billy> AnAnt: you installed windows and ubuntu on two separate drives?
[10:49] <AnAnt> billy: same drive
[10:49] <Lynoure> AnAnt: I guess your partition number got changed in the Windows installation process?
[10:50] <maverick> yo, whats where can i get the new gnome panel (improved one) it was listed on planet ubuntu but its not there now??
[10:50] <AnAnt> Lynoure: ic
[10:50] <stork> where can i place startup scripts on ubuntu ?
[10:50] <Lynoure> AnAnt: you could modify your grub.conf to be up to date and try again.
[10:50] <jrib> !startup | stork
[10:50] <ubotu> stork: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[10:50] <billy> AnAnt: a partition is like a slice of a pie.  Windows is on one, ubuntu on the other.  Ideally, you'll have Windows on your hard hard drive *before* installing Ubuntu.
[10:51] <stork> alright, since that doesn't work, where can i place startup scripts on ubuntu server?
[10:51] <Galga> hi
[10:51] <jrib> stork: man update-rc.d
[10:51] <billy> !hi | Galga
[10:51] <ubotu> Galga: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:51] <Galga> If i press CTRL+ALT+F1, how do I go back to GUI
[10:51] <AnAnt> Lynoure: ok
[10:51] <billy> ctrl+alt+f7
[10:52] <Galga> thanks bieb
[10:52] <Galga> billy
[10:52] <billy> what's up Galga?
[10:53] <uric> hi, could someone please tell me how to check, or get an overview off my drivers
[10:53] <stork> jrib, isn't that for start/stop scripts?
[10:53] <Galga> thanks billy
[10:53] <eck> uric: if the hardware works, you have the driver :-)
[10:53] <eck> uric: you can see most of the ones that are loaded with lsmod
[10:53] <MrFlibble_> eck: Thanks for the help; bug report now filed.
[10:53] <billy> you're welcome earth_creature Galga.
[10:54] <uric> eck: ah, thank you! ::)
[10:54] <eck> uric: that isn't foolproof though, because it won't show modules compiled into the kernel (but if you are using the stock kernel, nearly everything is compiled as a loadable module)
[10:54] <jrib> stork: what exactly do you want to do?
[10:54] <cypher1> uric, dmesg output may also help you
[10:54] <blue|palm> my apt-get is broken... I tried to install a package that tried to overwrite another package but failed... now everytime i invoke apt-get to do anything it tries to install the package (dcraw) and fails every time... how do i fix th
[10:54] <Lynoure> AnAnt: It's also possible that /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab need poking for the same reason
[10:55] <stork> jrib, execute two commands to start my RAID array on boot up so i can mount it on /home
[10:55] <uric> cypherl: ok, great, thanks!
[10:55] <mccm> czesc
[10:56] <mccm> jest ktos kto zna polski
[10:56] <eck> !pl
[10:56] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:57] <AnAnt> Lynoure: I did all that
[10:57] <AnAnt> Lynoure: it still says that it /boot/grub/stage1 file is not read correctly
[10:57] <jrib> stork: you can use /etc/init.d/ and udpate-rc.d, you could also add it to /etc/rc.local maybe... I'm not sure when that gets executed though
[10:57] <AnAnt> Lynoure: is there a way to regenerate the stage1 file ?
[10:58] <stork> jrib, but then i'd need to implement a stop command right?
[10:58] <billy> That's it dammit!
[10:59] <billy> Sound Juicer has got to go~!
[11:00] <jrib> stork: I don't think so, see post 8 here http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[11:00] <AnAnt> ok, I used grub, thanks
[11:00] <billy> AnAnt: how did it go?
[11:01] <stork> cheers jrib
[11:01] <blue|palm> is there any place I can see the improvements in feisty?
[11:01] <Lynoure> AnAnt: you solved it already?
[11:02] <billy> What the XMMS command to get it to play a CD upon placing it in the tray?  I know I have to change the preferences, but that follows the XMMS command?
[11:02] <AnAnt> Lynoure: yeah that URL you gave me
[11:02] <AnAnt> Lynoure: in grub I type root (hd0,6) then setup (hd0)
[11:02] <AnAnt> it worked
[11:03] <AnAnt> Lynoure: thanks
[11:03] <jrib> blue|palm: #ubuntu+1 for feisty, but maybe https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+specs or burn a daily live cd if you want to try them out
[11:04] <ahmed> #nubuntu
[11:04] <blue|palm> jrib: thanks
[11:04] <ahmed> hey
[11:04] <ahmed> lol
[11:04] <ahmed> damn, its been like 6 years or so since i last used irc
[11:05] <Lynoure> ahmed: It has net changed much :)
[11:05] <Lynoure> s/net/not
[11:05] <ahmed> still boring or any new changes?
[11:07] <billy> any recommendations for a CD player?
[11:07] <ahmed> Define your recommendations?
[11:08] <ahmed> which player you mean?
[11:08] <blue|palm> anybody have problems with video? Im using ati and fglrx and no matter what player/engine i use all the red areas in my videos are very blocky and pixellated
[11:08] <blue|palm> and its not the videos because testing them in windows they are fine (and better quality too using media player classic + ffdshow)
[11:09] <rowland> Good morning Folks,  Can anyone help me config Feisty with Nvidia GeForce 7600
[11:09] <ahmed> gforce7600?
[11:09] <rowland> ahmed sorry Nvidia
[11:10] <jrib> rowland: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[11:10] <rowland> jrib okay cheers
[11:13] <variant> denyhosts pwns..
[11:13] <variant> !denyhosts
[11:13] <ncaller> what is the name of the command which ubuntu runs when you turn on its remote assistance or remote desktop via the gnome menu's... it is a vnc server I know, I just need the command because I need to vnc in but only have ssh access right now
[11:13] <ubotu> denyhosts: an utility to help sys admins thwart ssh hackers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5-3 (edgy), package size 60 kB, installed size 412 kB
[11:14] <ncaller> I do a locate on vncserver and it is not found
[11:14] <eck> variant: it's still better to just use ssh keys :-)
[11:14] <variant> eck: yes
[11:14] <billy> how do I get XMMS to play a CD?
[11:15] <gaminggeek> billy, why are you using XMMS?
[11:15] <ncaller> I just need to get a VNC session going to my remote server
[11:15] <Gorlist> Morning - right quick question :)
[11:15] <billy> gaminggeek: no idea.  I don't like Sound Juicer.
[11:15] <billy> morning Gorlist earth_creature.
[11:15] <Gorlist> does my home folder contain all my program settings etc? including Emails, Bookmarks and so on
[11:15] <variant> ncaller: man vncserver tells you how
[11:15] <gaminggeek> Sound Juicer is a cd ripper really
[11:16] <gaminggeek> uses rythembox to play your cds
[11:16] <variant> ncaller: you could also try typeing "vncserver"
[11:16] <variant> Gorlist: yes
[11:16] <billy> gamingeek:  yeah, that's part of the reason I don't like using it.  that and it puts gaps in my mix CDs.  thanks for the suggestion.
[11:16] <Gorlist> right, so for instance, if I installed a fresh copy of the latest Ubuntu onto another pc
[11:16] <variant> billy: there is the option to enablet he plugin in the xmms preferences.. input/output plugins
[11:17] <billy> variant:  it's enabled.
[11:17] <eck> Gorlist: most of you settings are in "dot" files and folders in your home directory
[11:17] <Gorlist> and simply copied my Home folder over, it would work fine and my user account will be transferred with all its stuff?
[11:17] <billy> variant: XMMS keeps acting buggy.  away with it.
[11:17] <variant> Gorlist: and copied your /home/gorlist directory accross, yes it would work
[11:17] <gaminggeek> billy, your wellcome
[11:17] <Gorlist> righty'o :)
[11:17] <Gorlist> Want to upgrade of Dapper to Edgy
[11:17] <Gorlist> so just backing up the files first
[11:17] <variant> Gorlist: there may be slight issues with configuration differences between apps. but if it's the same ubuntu version there shouldn't be an issue
[11:18] <pjesi> how do you guys unpack src.rpm?
[11:18] <variant> Gorlist: yeah, wont be too much trouble
[11:18] <variant> pjesi: try rpm2tgz
[11:18] <Gorlist> Ok, thanks!
[11:18] <pjesi> variant: ok thanks
[11:18] <eck> Gorlist: your gnome settings are mostly in ~/.gnome2/ and ~/.gconf/
[11:18] <variant> Gorlist: just remember the .mozilla directory..
[11:18] <eck> and get the directory for you email client
[11:19] <variant> Gorlist: you may need to specify that firefox profile in the the fx profile manager ont he new system
[11:19] <Gorlist> right
[11:19] <ncaller> variant well I ran the server the other day on here and was VNC'ing into it fine, but I ran it from the gnome menu.  When I try to run vncserver via CLI or locate vncserver or man vncserver it is not found, thats why I think it has a different name, I just can't remember what
[11:19] <Gorlist> well will go through it and see what happens
[11:19] <Gorlist> thanks for the advice/help - logging off :)
[11:19] <pjesi> variant: is it not in the repos?
[11:20] <variant> ncaller: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[11:20] <variant> pjesi: should be something simmilar
[11:21] <variant> pjesi: strange, it appears not.. guess i'm used to gentoo to much :)
[11:21] <pjesi> hehe tell me about it
[11:21] <variant> pjesi: try alien
[11:21] <variant> pjesi: not sure what it will do with a src.rpm though
[11:21] <variant> !alien | pjesi
[11:21] <ubotu> pjesi: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:22] <billy> rhythmbox puts gaps in my tracks as well.  Not cool.
[11:22] <pjesi> I just want to unpack it so I can have access to the source, not planning on bloating my system with redhat stuff :)
[11:22] <variant> billy: try amarok, it's my fave by a long way. it supports gapless playback
[11:23] <kestaz> i need howto about power managment on ubuntu ?
[11:23] <billy> variant:  sweet!  thanks.
[11:23] <variant> billy: although, the best cd player/ripper imo is definatly grip
[11:23] <billy> variant:  I'll check that one too.
[11:23] <Steve1> hi
[11:24] <kestaz> just like power managment on gentoo: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml
[11:24] <billy> !hi | Steve1
[11:24] <ubotu> Steve1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:24] <Steve1> i need help installing ubuntu
[11:25] <variant> kestaz: the packages required for pm are already isntalled on ubuntu, if you want to configure it different from default then the gentoo doc you just pasted should do the trick for most of what you're looking for
[11:26] <kestaz> variant, so everything is configurated on ubuntu ?
[11:26] <arfy> Hi all, just got a friend and heling him to install ubuntu. However, he can't seem to change the screen resolution from 640x480, even though xorg.conf says 1280x800. Can he fix it? He's using a ferrari 4000 acer laptop.
[11:26] <variant> kestaz: mostly
[11:26] <kestaz> ok, that's great ;)
[11:28] <Steve1> i have 3 HDs, 2 sata and one IDE133
[11:28] <Steve1> on sda there is win vista
[11:28] <Steve1> on sdb there are 3 partitions, one for win xp, one ext3 and one swap, i install ubuntu on sdb, select that hd from the boot selector of my bios but then appers a black screen with a blinking caret and not grub, i-ve tried with grub > setup hd2 but nothing happens...
[11:28] <stork> jrib, think i got it working, i'll know when i reboot :)
[11:28] <Buntix> hello
[11:29] <Buntix> i'd like to remove totem-mozilla but if i use synaptic he want to remove ubuntu-desktop how can i do ?!
[11:30] <PirateHead> I can't import photos from my camera unless I'm root, but the fact that the import wizard comes up anyway makes me think that this is a bug -- does anybody have ideas as to a fix?
[11:30] <Buntix> someone help me ?
[11:30] <picca> anyone know if there is a way to disable hardware detection when booting off the live cd? k/ubuntu live cd seems to hang when it trys to load 8139too driver
[11:30] <nekr0z> PirateHead: I do.
[11:31] <PirateHead> nekr0z: lay it on me. :-)
[11:31] <nekr0z> PirateHead: go to console, plug the camera in and do "lsusb", then look if your camera is detected.
[11:32] <billy> variant: um ... sorry I'm so dumb.  How do I get Amarok to play a CD.  Keeps telling me "could not read AudioCD"
[11:33] <Steve1> someone can help me?
[11:33] <PirateHead> nekr0z: lsusb reports my camera and my three empty ports
[11:33] <nekr0z> You'll see two hexadecimal numbers separated with ":" aside of your camera, that's camera's ID
[11:34] <fijam> hello
[11:34] <PirateHead> yup, I see it
[11:34] <fijam> I need to convert .doc file to .pdf file with rgb->cmyk colour palette conversion
[11:34] <PirateHead> !ask | Steve1
[11:34] <ubotu> Steve1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:34] <fijam> what application do I use?
[11:35] <nekr0z> PirateHead: Now look in /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules for a line that contains both those hexadecimal numbers.
[11:35] <PirateHead> fijam: I think Scribus does that.
[11:35] <nekr0z> PirateHead: There actually must be 2 lines in that file for each camera.
[11:35] <billy> Steve1 : what's your question?
[11:35] <fijam> ok, thanks PirateHead
[11:36] <Steve1> i-ve isntalled ubuntu on my second sata disc but i can-t boot, i only get  a black screen instead of the grub menu
[11:37] <rowland> Folks, whats the Feisty channel called please???
[11:37] <PirateHead> nekr0z: very nice, let me take a look at that
[11:37] <Jowi> rowland, #ubuntu+1
[11:37] <billy> Steve1 : download this --> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Boot/Super-Grub-Disk-8071.shtml
[11:38] <rowland> thanks Jowi
[11:38] <billy> Steve1 : that super grub disc will help you restore your boot.
[11:38] <billy> Steve1 : put it in your CD drive and reboot back into the CD drive.  Can your computer boot by CD rom?
[11:39] <Steve1> tnx, i-ve already tried with grub > setud (hd2) but it-s the same.. i-m downloading that prog..
[11:39] <billy> Steve1 : of course it can boot by CDROM.   Just try it out.
[11:39] <PirateHead> nekr0z: still there? it appears that there is no entry for my camera, but I'm not sure
[11:39] <mbudde> Ain't there a function that takes some input and outputs the unique lines?
[11:40] <PirateHead> is the hexidecimal combo idVendor:idNumber?
[11:40] <remfarkas> hi, anyone knows how to get a working autoreconf2.61 for edgy?
[11:40] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! I have a soundblaster in my computer... does that play through the ALSA or the OSS output?
[11:40] <nekr0z> PirateHead: Yes, exactly. Well, you have to add it manually. Just make 2 lines looking the same as others, only with your camera's numbers.