[17:56] <rpag> The default configuration is a bit weird
[17:56] <regeya> mplayer is awesome.
[17:56] <ardchoille> ASULutzy: aha, that looks quite nice, thanks
[17:57] <CarmenRain> sera
[17:57] <Dante123> hi all, I have upgraded 8.04 to 8.10 and for the most part everything is working...however the network manager applet says I am not connected to internet....even though I am (using it now).  Any suggestions for curing this (in a way it is not a major problem since I am connected but I would like it to reflect the connection in the top right corner properly)
[17:57] <CarmenRain> c'è triptikati?
[17:57] <ASULutzy> ardchoille: Yea, it's command line pidgin ;)
[17:57] <rpag> hey Paddy_EIRE
[17:57] <ardchoille> :)
[17:57] <Juaco> rpag: apache vhosts?
[17:57] <Paddy_EIRE> hey
[17:57] <lukasz> Ok Now what program  is the best messenger im for video chatting?
[17:57] <CarmenRain> c'è paper8?
[17:57] <rpag> Juaco, yeah.
[17:57] <Paddy_EIRE> lukasz, I prefer empathy for all my IM voip needs
[17:57] <lukasz> ok thnx
[17:58] <Paddy_EIRE> !empathy
[17:58] <rpag> Juaco, I've set up NameVirtualHost *:80 with a <VirtualHost *:80> # data here </VirtualHost> but i keep getting ; NameVirtualHost *:80 has no virtualhosts.
[17:58] <Paddy_EIRE> !info empathy
[17:58] <Juaco> i think all you have to do is to copy a template in sites-available and drop a link to it in site-enabled
[17:58] <sirstan_> is update-manager considerably slower than apt-get ?
[17:58] <Paddy_EIRE> !im
[17:58] <Juaco> rpag: otherwise it's the same as always
[17:58] <sirstan_> !gconftool
[17:58] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm.. some of the factoids need updating
[17:58] <sirstan_> !gconftool
[17:58] <rpag> Juaco, yeah i have default in sites enabled with a vhost setup already.
[17:58] <sirstan_> oops.
[17:58] <bazhang> sirstan_, please /msg ubottu
[17:59] <sirstan_> bazhang, I can never remmeber the bots name. s sry
[17:59] <CarmenRain> excuse me where can I get the italian chat
[17:59] <kalvin_> How do i get the preinstalled vmware player and workstation to work on this thing?
[17:59] <Paddy_EIRE> !it | CarmenRain
[17:59] <Juaco> rpag: then just copy that file to a new one (maybe named after the new host) then ln -s it
[18:00] <lukasz> I don't see empathy having video :(
[18:01] <costlyeffects> could anyone tell me the name of that program that shows your disk partitions in gui?
[18:02] <lukasz> What is a good im for VIDEO!
[18:02] <lukasz> Empathy doesn't let me create accounts
[18:02] <Paddy_EIRE> costlyeffects, the disk usage analyser ?
[18:02] <Lothsahn> I'm currently running 7.04 and trying to upgrade, but I get 404's every time I do the upgrade.  Any idea why?
[18:02] <Andy80> where can I buy the Ubuntu metal stickers to put on a notebook?
[18:02] <Lothsahn> (I should say I get 404's in the apt-get update)
[18:02] <costlyeffects> no Paddy_EIRE that doesnt, show other devices
[18:02] <costlyeffects> connected
[18:02] <bazhang> Lothsahn, use old-release.ubuntu.com as that is end of life
[18:03] <bazhang> Lothsahn, err old-releases
[18:03] <Paddy_EIRE> costlyeffects, in "applications > accessories > disk usage analyser" have a look at that first
[18:03] <Lothsahn> bazhang: Awesome, thanks.  So anywhere I see us.archive.ubuntu I just make it old-releases.ubuntu.com?
[18:03] <costlyeffects> i did
[18:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !info disk-manager | costlyeffects
[18:04] <Paddy_EIRE> I dont know of many others that are all that useful
[18:04] <Paddy_EIRE> lukasz, are you using intrepid (8.10) or hardy (8.04) ?
[18:04] <Lothsahn> bazhang:  I changed my sources.list and am still getting the errors.  It looks like this: Err http://old-releases.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Sources
[18:05] <costlyeffects> thanks paddy
[18:05] <bazhang> Lothsahn, the err was me saying error
[18:05] <lukasz> I am using hardy
[18:05] <rpag> Juaco, hmm not working...i'm trying the default vhost now that is shipped with the installation, i can't get the index.html to load.
[18:05] <midnight_user> should I enable laptop-mode?
[18:05] <bazhang> Lothsahn, no archive iirc
[18:06] <rpag> Juaco, same error.. NameVirtualHost has no VirtualHosts.
[18:06] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades Lothsahn
[18:07] <sirstan_> is it normal for the graphical package update to take considerably longer (2x) than the apt-get tool?
[18:07] <CarlFK> where are fonts stored?
[18:07] <Paddy_EIRE> lukasz, I have a solution
[18:07] <matthew> sound quality is bad on alsamixer
[18:08] <Lothsahn> bazhang: awesome!  Thank you so much
[18:08] <Pedric> hi - using Intrepid, I can't configure the QT style/appearance of KDE4 apps from within Gnome, I tried qtconfig-qt4 and even systemsettings (the kcontrol replacement). Screenshot: http://tmp.dragonriders.de/qt4vsKde.png
[18:08] <CarlFK> sirstan  - there is apt-get and aptitude.  I hear aptitude "does more stuff" - and i have found it takes longer... I think the graphical thing is based on aptitude
[18:08] <rpag> Paddy_EIRE, what part of eire?
[18:08] <lukasz> What is the solution Paddy?
[18:09] <Juaco> rpag: i'm no expert, but have you checked the hostname is available? (must be the same as the ServerName directive)
[18:09] <matthew> can i have better quality sound on alsamixer
[18:09] <Paddy_EIRE> lukasz, "System>Administration>Software Sources" then choose third-party software tab
[18:09] <sirstan_> CarlFK, ive never had aptitude take considerably longer than apt-get .. this is the first time ive done a full 8.10 to current update .. and its taking hours.
[18:09] <rpag> Juaco, hm one sec
[18:09] <Paddy_EIRE> lukasz, choose to add a repo then add this line without the quotes "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/telepathy/ubuntu hardy main"
[18:10] <Paddy_EIRE> lukasz, you will then need to update/upgrade
[18:10] <rpag> Juaco, nah thats not it :(
[18:10] <rpag> Juaco, borked default config i guess
[18:10] <Paddy_EIRE> rpag, the north .. Derry/Doire/londonderry
[18:11] <Paddy_EIRE> rpag, this aint a chat channel though :)
[18:11] <Juaco> rpag: also try putting a <Directory> rule for the serverroot and add Order Allow,Deny .. Allow from All
[18:11] <rpag> Paddy_EIRE, oh cool, dublin here ;]
[18:11] <Paddy_EIRE> rpag, there is a ubuntu-ie team too
[18:11] <rpag> Juaco, thats in the VirtualHost.
[18:11] <grobda24> What's the sequence to prepare a swap partition ? I laready have the partition.
[18:11] <rpag> Paddy_EIRE, cool =) I don't really use it that much, just setting it up in a VM for a temporary solution.
[18:11] <Nilesh> rpag - can you tell me what is the problem?
[18:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[18:12] <rpag> Nilesh, i'm trying to setup a vhost to run a rails app, but i get the error ; NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts.
[18:12] <rpag> even when using the default vhost config.
[18:12] <Juaco> grobda24: check man pages for commands mkswap and swapon, they're pretty straightforward
[18:13] <Nilesh> hmm
[18:13] <Lothsahn> bazhang: Those instructions worked.  Thank you very much.  I was really stuck :)
[18:13] <grobda24> Juaco, ah, thanks :)
[18:13] <Lothsahn> bazhang: it'd be nice if they didn't remove support from the repositories, so I'd have to manually change this.
[18:13] <Nilesh> may i know what settings are you trying ?
[18:13] <bazhang> Lothsahn, nice going
[18:14] <Juaco> roag: yes
[18:14] <Nilesh> rpag - may i know what settings are you trying?
[18:14] <midnight_user> should I enable laptop-mode ?
[18:14] <rpag> Nilesh, right now i'm just trying the default vhost configuration but before i was trying NameVirtualHost *:80 , <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName mydomain.com \n DocumentRoot /var/www/apps/myblog \n RailsEnv production </VirtualHost>
[18:14] <lukasz> I ahve to reboot
[18:15] <sirstan_> is there a way to single to synaptic to stop updating packages when the current package finishes? (i want to cancel 100 packges into the full 200 package update)
[18:16] <rpag> sirstan, i dunnot to be honest, kill -9 pid_of_synaptic when you reach the threshold.
[18:16] <sirstan_> rpag: that sounds like it might leave things in a not-so-happy state :D
[18:16] <rpag> yup true.
[18:16] <Pici> sirstan_: No, theres no way to do that if you're already in the installing portion of an update.
[18:17] <sinbox> if I use the command here:  http://pastebin.com/m589ff7bc    will this bring me to a command line system or to anunusable one starting from ubuntu?
[18:17] <CarmenRain> help
[18:17] <CarmenRain> I can't go to the italian irc
[18:17] <CarmenRain> where is it
[18:17] <rpag> Nilesh, any ideas?
[18:17] <sinbox> !it
[18:17] <Pici> CarmenRain: type: /join #ubuntu-it
[18:17] <Nilesh> yes
[18:18] <macd_> sirstan_, just off hand some stuff there looks fairly important
[18:18] <A4Tech> hi all
[18:18] <rpag> Nilesh, can you share?
[18:18] <johnnyrotten> i have a problem with my ubung holio
[18:18] <sirstan_> macd_ some stuff where?
[18:18] <macd_> sirstan_, uhhh your pastebin, looks like the bulk of the ubuntu-desktop package
[18:18] <jake_> johnnyrotten, might i suggest another channel for your serious issue :)
[18:18] <sirstan_> macd_: wrong person.
[18:19] <A4Tech> how i can close socket
[18:19] <A4Tech> ?
[18:19] <macd_> sirstan_, err thanks, tab complete!
[18:19] <johnnyrotten> jake_ any channel you can suggest?
[18:19] <adaptr> how about #backdoor-fairies ?
[18:19] <Kartagis> locohost, I get reply from unexpected source <IP_ADDRESS>#53, expected <IP_ADDRESS>#53
[18:19] <macd_> sinbox, that looks like the majority of the ubuntu-desktop package, nothing that looks like it would leave your system unuseable though, I would also recomend purging the configuration files as well
[18:20] <hkais> hello
[18:20] <hkais> I have troubles to connect with my t61 via umts and also via wlan
[18:20] <Scix> join #ubuntu-installer
[18:20] <Scix> ops
[18:20] <johnnyrotten> i have a problem with by bottom trap
[18:20] <macd_> sinbox, something like http://pastebin.com/m2257e0b1 after removing those.
[18:21] <Paddy_EIRE> johnnyrotten, what the problem
[18:21] <sinbox> thanks macd_ I just wanted to make sure of that before switching  to fuxbox, how would I go about removing the condiguration files as well?
[18:21] <hkais> can anyone tell me how to enable debug for the networkmanager?
[18:21] <johnnyrotten> my anus is malfunctioning
[18:21] <macd_> !ops
[18:21] <Paddy_EIRE> !ops | johnnyrotten
[18:21] <Paddy_EIRE> pah.. time wasters
[18:21] <SH4|Gast473> Hi, I have some trouble with my sudoers file. I want to disable password request for user peter except for the commands su and passwd. This is my sudoers file, I'm unable to find the problem. Exactly this config works on another ubuntu system. http://pastebin.com/m13d06d4e
[18:21] <bazhang> adaptr, keep it family friendly
[18:22] <johnnyrotten> ?
[18:22] <sekinto> How do I uninstall all the packages that were installed when I installed KDE?
[18:22] <Paddy_EIRE> sekinto, how did you install kde
[18:22] <sekinto> Paddy_EIRE: Through Synaptic Package Manager.
[18:22] <macd_> sekinto, chances are removing kubuntu-desktop will do that for you.
[18:22] <jake_> sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[18:22] <bazhang> sekinto, you want only gnome?
[18:22] <Paddy_EIRE> sekinto, yeah and ..
[18:23] <jake_> sekinto, this should help you http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2755/ubuntu_7_10_how_to_uninstall_kde/
[18:23] <bazhang> !puregnome | sekinto
[18:23] <Paddy_EIRE> sekinto, be as specific as you can please mate
[18:23] <sinbox> sekinto, look at the command on that page: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfcehardy
[18:24] <macd_> nice trigger bazhang
[18:24] <sinbox> the second one, and take a good look at it first before using it sekinto
[18:24]  * macd_ makes note hasnt seen yet
[18:24] <sevenseeker> its been awhile since I purchased hardware... are ATI or nVidia cards better supported in Linux now?  (newer cards)
[18:24] <bazhang> macd_, its new :)
[18:24] <Paddy_EIRE> sevenseeker, yes
[18:24] <sekinto> I want to uninstall the packages that were installed when I installed KDE, but nothing that might be part of KDE that was previously on there.
[18:25] <th89> hey guys, having a problem setting up my bluetooth. My built-in adapter is not detected. Cannot see it in lspci or lsusb. Any ideas?
[18:25] <Paddy_EIRE> sevenseeker, although always check the current status of the card you are buying
[18:25] <jake_> look at that link and remove the packages you want to keep http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2755/ubuntu_7_10_how_to_uninstall_kde/
[18:25] <sinbox> bazhang would you happen to have a similarly simple trigger to remove ubuntu(gnome) rather than the complicated one I am planing on using?
[18:25] <bazhang> sinbox, what do you want to remain?
[18:25] <macd_> sekinto, most likely there were no traces of kde before you installed it, unless you were using amarok, k3b, or some other kde app that YOU installed
[18:26] <sinbox> well bazhang I'm going to install either xdm or slim first and fluxbox
[18:26] <regeya> omg is someone experiencing teh evile of kde????
[18:26] <Paddy_EIRE> regeya, no trolling here
[18:26] <grobda24> I'm doing a Wubi transfer but LVPM is saying it will install GRUB on my target partition. The target is on a second hard drive. I can install GRUB later on my master Windows HD and dual boot to Ubuntu on the second HD, right ?
[18:26] <bazhang> sinbox, which version of ubuntu
[18:27] <sinbox> 8.04
[18:27] <sekinto> macd_: I do some QT development, so I have a few KDE and QT things downloaded that I need still.
[18:27] <sevenseeker> Paddy_EIRE: thanks... that is very good advice.  Which would you say overall is better supported?
[18:27] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfcehardy sinbox if you are going to use xfce
[18:28] <th89> anyone here know how to manually setup bluetooth?
[18:28] <Paddy_EIRE> sevenseeker, well the there really is no best.. I wonder what exactly are you aiming for ?
[18:28] <Paddy_EIRE> sevenseeker, high end gaming?
[18:28] <sekinto> macd_: I also have the Arora browser for Webkit testing.
[18:29] <sinbox> I'm actually plannig on taking cxfe out as well bazhang it's for an old box with only a couple of things to do and no need for a full desktop but still some graphical interface for other people who will use it
[18:29] <cua0> is there a linked package for installing X(gnome)? i'd like to install X on my 'server' release ubuntu.
[18:29] <Pici> cua0: ubuntu-desktop
[18:29] <bazhang> sinbox, hang on let me check
[18:29] <sevenseeker> Paddy_EIRE: video editing and good 3D graphics output for modeling and demoing 3d scenes
[18:29] <cua0> Pici: thank you
[18:29] <MenZa> !info ubuntu-desktop | cua0
[18:29] <DawnLight> hello. i'm having trouble with the ide controller. http://pastebin.com/d1e797244 http://pastebin.com/d4e1699c2
[18:29] <Paddy_EIRE> sevenseeker, well lets see.. pick a card any card and I will have a look :)
[18:30] <sekinto> Is there an argument for apt-get that makes it ask you before uninstalling each package in a list so that you can see what depends on it before you uninstall it?
[18:30] <bazhang> sinbox, you can use that link, provided you install something first (eg fluxbox, lxde, etc) otherwise you wont have any wm at all
[18:31] <sinbox> ok thanks, I do realise I've got to have something in place first bazhang saw a couple of people making that mistake over the last couple of days :)
[18:31] <sevenseeker> Paddy_EIRE: well, I am still in the very beginning spec'ing stages... not sure what all is offered yet... I really appreciate the offer
[18:31] <Arunwils> is ne1 a member of asmallworld
[18:32] <MenZa> !offtopic | Arunwils
[18:32] <bazhang> sinbox, for future reference: purexfce (kde, gnome) will yield that link in a /msg ubottu :)
[18:32] <ousx> hi  f
[18:32] <danand_> sekinto: have you tried apt-get -s remove ... The -s means simulate only ie it wont actually do anything, just tell you what would be removed...
[18:32] <Paddy_EIRE> sevenseeker, well what I would advice would be to use this place religiously before you take the plunge and spend money on something
[18:32] <ousx> http://linux-gallery.blogspot.com/
[18:32] <Pici> ousx: This is a support channel, please do not advertise  here.
[18:32] <bazhang> ousx, dont paste random links here
[18:33] <A4Tech> with whom you can talk to get the source code of your bot, for placement on the # ubuntu-ru?
[18:33] <ousx> sorry !!
[18:33] <MenZa> A4Tech: Try checking in #ubuntu-irc, which is the channel of the IRC Council.
[18:33] <sevenseeker> Paddy_EIRE: indeed I will... I don't want to get stuck with drivers that are rarely updated or just not available
[18:33] <sekinto> danand_: But I kind of want to do every package separately, and it is a big list. Would I have to whip out Bash to accomplish this?
[18:34] <Arunwils> is ne1 a member os asmallworld
[18:34] <Arunwils> of*
[18:34] <MenZa> Arunwils: Please take offtopic chatter elsewhere - this is only a support channel.
[18:34] <bazhang> Arunwils, this is the wrong channel for that
[18:34] <tim167> hi, scripting question: how do i: "find all subfolders that contain less than x kilobytes in total". thanks
[18:34] <Paddy_EIRE> sevenseeker, sure.. just so long as you are aware that there is always help with these matters :)
[18:34] <Arunwils> but they r not responding
[18:34] <Scix> how can I get "tail -f" to trigger on a debconf entry to syslog, insted of getteing the hole sjlabang
[18:34] <MenZa> Arunwils: That's not our problem; this channel is only for support queries.
[18:34] <Pici> !botclone > A4Tech
[18:34] <sirstan_> tim167, this isnt the place.  you could easily do that with perl.  try #perl
[18:35] <sirstan_> or easily with python, trry #python.
[18:35] <A4Tech> Pici thx
[18:35] <MenZa> Arunwils: This channel gets a lot of traffic and to avoid being flooded in offtopic chat, #ubuntu-offtopic was created. There's also ##offtopic, #defocus, etc.
[18:35] <tim167> sirstan_, shouldn't it be possible  with a shell command also ?
[18:36] <sirstan_> tim167, sure.  I bet 'find' can do it.
[18:36] <sinbox> sekinto, did you take a look at the psychocat link?
[18:36] <ardchoille> tim167: you might look at man find
[18:36] <sevenseeker> Paddy_EIRE: yes, I have found ubuntu help to be great... which is why I switched to it and am very happy (heck, my wife uses it too now)
[18:36] <tim167> ardchoille: thanks, i will
[18:38] <A4Tech> Pici Hmm, there is a lot of what I need?
[18:38] <ardchoille> tim167: look at the -size switch in man find
[18:38] <yamanickill> i keep trying to install windows, and it says that there might be a faulty cd/dvd or harddrive, and then it quits. i've tried reburning the cd, redownloading it, using a USB stick, using a different HDD, using another HDD. but it happens on every one of them
[18:38] <ardchoille> s/switch/argument
[18:38] <A4Tech> щр
[18:39] <A4Tech> oh
[18:39] <Pici> A4Tech: You can join #ubuntu-bots if you need help with the plugins
[18:39] <A4Tech> no no, everything out. thanks
[18:39] <sekinto> sinbox: The Phychocat link had things on it that I knew I wanted to keep.
[18:40] <yamanickill> i keep trying to install ubuntu, and it says that there might be a faulty cd/dvd or harddrive. It says "The following file did not match its source copy on the CD/DVD" several times, and then it quits. i've tried reburning the cd, redownloading it, using a USB stick, using a different HDD, using another HDD. but it happens on every one of them
[18:40] <sekinto> sinbox: I guess I could go through each one, that might take awhile though.
[18:40] <MenZa> yamanickill: Are you burning at low speed?
[18:40] <yamanickill> i've tried both fast and slow MenZa
[18:40] <sinbox> exactly, you can edit that list and take out the ones you want to keep sekinto, or at least I think so.
[18:40] <sirstan_> yamanickill, run the memory test.
[18:40] <Jaffarkelshac> i am getting an input signal out of range when i try to start armyops any fix?
[18:40] <bazhang> yamanickill, sounds like the md5 error
[18:40] <LetsGo67> How do I edit GRUB so that Windows XP starts by default, please?
[18:40] <MenZa> yamanickill: You should always burn slowly. Have you tried checking the md5sum of the iso once downloaded, and of the disk itself when burnt?
[18:41] <MenZa> !burning | yamanickill
[18:41] <MenZa> -_-
[18:41] <bazhang> its !md5
[18:41] <Jaffarkelshac> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst LetsGo67 change the default option
[18:41] <yamanickill> i have done MenZa, and i've also tried crunchbang as well, so its not just the normal ubuntu that does it
[18:41] <LetsGo67> Thx bud.
[18:41] <yamanickill> i'll go recheck the md5
[18:41] <MenZa> Great.
[18:42] <Jaffarkelshac> LetsGo67: its line 15 i think
[18:42] <yamanickill> thing is, i've also used cds that worked before
[18:42] <LetsGo67> thx again  :)
[18:42] <yamanickill> and also cds that i got with linux format, and linux magazine
[18:43] <needhelp> hello, my MBR is screwed. I can't load with grub, The only way to enter my system is with a KNOPPIX live CD.  Are there any way to fix the MBR for Ubuntu from within the Knoppix live CD ?
[18:43] <yamanickill> needhelp: you can try and use SuperGrubDisk
[18:43] <Jaffarkelshac> i am getting an "input signal out of range" when i try to start armyops game any fix?
[18:43] <MenZa> yamanickill: Sounds like your CD drive might be fubar'ed.
[18:44] <yamanickill> MenZa: thats what i thought...so i tried a usb drive instead. and it did the same thing
[18:44] <Jaffarkelshac> i am not sure, but you can fix grub with ubuntu live cd needhelp
[18:44] <LetsGo67> jaffarkelshac, I think it's easier to use qtgrub, just for next time.  :)  'Cause I'm lost in that file.
[18:44] <costlyeffects> after i share an entire pc where will it show up on my other computer
[18:44] <MenZa> yamanickill: That sounds very weird. Motherboard? O_o
[18:44] <LetsGo67> !grub
[18:44] <yamanickill> MenZa: thats what i didn't want you to say
[18:44] <needhelp> yamanickill: perhaps yes, but problem is: This computer doesnt have burner, and the other computer (which I am trying to fix atm) doesnt have internet.
[18:44] <MenZa> yamanickill: I honestly can't find any other ideas. RAM perhaps? Try running the memory test on the CD.
[18:44] <ASULutzy> yamanickill: If the USB drive says the same thing, are you sure the download went ok? I would md5sum the .iso you downloaded
[18:45] <LetsGo67> !qtgrub
[18:45] <MenZa> ASULutzy: He has md5sum'ed it, and checked it post-burn
[18:45] <sekinto> sinbox: Some of the things on there make no sense what-so-ever though; why would Ruby even be on that list???
[18:45] <Jaffarkelshac> oh, LetsGo67 i guess what ever works for you. did that work then
[18:45] <needhelp> Jaffarkelshac: But I don't have ubuntu live cd. I know I can download it and burn it, but... see the reply to yamanickill
[18:45] <yamanickill> ASULutzy: i have done, and i have also used cds that worked before
[18:45] <LetsGo67> jaffarkelshac, how do I install it, though?
[18:45] <LetsGo67> Who's FloodBot?
[18:45] <yamanickill> see i am worried that it will be the MB cause i've had some problems with my MB since i got it
[18:46] <costlyeffects> anyone?
[18:46] <sinbox> Well, I'm not sure sekinto I didn't write the list, I am going to use the gnome one but I'll be sure to check it carefully first though
[18:46] <Jaffarkelshac> never used it before LetsGo67
[18:46] <ikonia> costlyeffects: what good is saying "anyone?"
[18:46] <yamanickill> needhelp: can your computer boot from usb?
[18:46] <costlyeffects> ikonia i was asking you about this earlier
[18:46] <yamanickill> if so, use UNetBootIn to burn SGD to a USB drive, and boot off that
[18:46] <jeroen-> Hdelp!
[18:47] <sinbox> costlyeffects, places > network
[18:47] <needhelp> yamanickill: i am not sure, I could look in the BIOS if there's any option for it. Can SuperGrubDisk be installed on a usb disk ?
[18:47] <ikonia> costlyeffects: yes so what good is saying anyone. if they didn't see your question, anyone doesn't tell them about it, if they don't know the answer saying anyone won't make them know
[18:47] <jeroen-> I bought a nividia 7300GT and now only I see is a breige/white/brown screen
[18:47] <yamanickill> needhelp: any ISO you burn to cd/dvd can be installed onto a usb disk, using Unetbootin
[18:47] <MenZa> !nvidia | jeroen-
[18:47] <sekinto> sinbox: Maybe it would be better just to remove the icons in the Gnome menu, it isn't like those extra packages will bog down the system at all... they just sit there looking pretty taking up a little hard drive space. Plus I might use them in the future anyway.
[18:48] <bazhang> jeroen-, which version of ubuntu, which drivers installed and from where
[18:48] <LetsGo67> !qgrubeditor
[18:48] <jeroen-> bazhang: 8.10 and I installed 173
[18:48] <jeroen-> but before I installed that I had teh same problem
[18:48] <yamanickill> MenZa: any other ideas? apart from my motherboard being useless.
[18:48] <podman> sweetlord, never been in a room with this many people haha
[18:48] <bazhang> jeroen-, from the hardware drivers? is not 177 recommended?
[18:48] <torx> net
[18:49] <jeroen-> bazhang: I dont know, I only have a cli
[18:49] <MenZa> yamanickill: None whatsoever; except you could try checking the RAM.
[18:49] <sinbox> in my case I made the mistake of not paying attention and installing a full ubuntu when I just wanted the minimal command line install only sekinto
[18:49] <LetsGo67> thx man ttyl
[18:49] <Scix> when i used DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer at boot, I'm getting the message that pkgsel/include command in my preseed file is invalid. It does not exists :S
[18:49] <bazhang> jeroen-, cli? why would you need xserver drivers then
[18:49] <yamanickill> ok, i'll go reboot and check the ram. could that make the difference? really?
[18:49] <bazhang> yamanickill, what are you using to burn this
[18:49] <jeroen-> bazhang: i cant use X
[18:50] <yamanickill> burn ubuntu? bazhang?
[18:50] <bazhang> jeroen-, boot into safe mode
[18:50] <jeroen-> ok
[18:50] <needhelp> yamanickill: thanks for the tip. I will try downloading ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso and put it on a memory disk using unetbootin
[18:50] <bazhang> yamanickill, to burn the iso
[18:50] <jeroen-> 1 m
[18:50] <abdlmlksmh> hi, could any body help me? i've bought an hp laptop, DV9823, and installed Ubuntu, everything seem to be working exept my WiFi and Bluetooth. thank you
[18:50] <MenZa> yamanickill: I'm not sure if it can. It's worth a shot, though.
[18:50] <yamanickill> bazhang: i used the built in cd burner to burn it to cd, and unetbootin to put it on the usb stick
[18:51] <Jaffarkelshac> i am getting an "input signal out of range" when i try to start armyops game any fix for this?
[18:51] <yamanickill> but i think crunchbang might just be about to work
[18:51] <yamanickill> its gotten higher than any of them have done
[18:51] <bazhang> yamanickill, then it is likely the media if md5 sum passes as well as the disk integrity check
[18:51] <jeroen-> bazhang: yes I am at the recovery menu
[18:51] <yamanickill> bazhang: but i tried cds, usb drives, and 3 different harddrives
[18:52] <podman> anyone here have experience with webcams in ubuntu. i'm finally entering web 2.0 :p
[18:52] <jeroen-> bazhang: I did a xfix
[18:52] <bazhang> yamanickill, what I meant was the media (ie cd quality, sometimes are name brand but are in fact counterfeit)
[18:53] <jeroen-> is that want you ment?
[18:53] <jeroen-> are should I drop to the root prompt
[18:53] <bazhang> jeroen-, did you install nvidia-settings
[18:53] <sirstan_> podman, web 2.0 isnt about webcams.
[18:53] <jeroen-> bazhang: no not yet
[18:53] <siaw> so i accidentally deleted deleted my Desktop folder and now all my files from my ~/ folder is on the desktop, how do i change it back to ~/Desktop ?
[18:53] <podman> sirstan_: i joke :p
[18:53] <jeroen-> no network in safe mode
[18:54] <yamanickill> bazhang: i tried 2 different brands. and my usb drives are kingston and cruzer
[18:54] <lukeW> hi
[18:54] <podman> i'm a programmer, never really been much into webcams and all that jazz, but recently getting into skype to talk to my sister who is going out of the country for 6mos
[18:54] <feitingen> podman: i got my webcam working partially withonly green colors
[18:54] <lukeW> i have a problem with sound in intrepid - having to use killall pulse-audio a lot
[18:54] <lukeW> does anyone have a fix?
[18:54] <yamanickill> but it looks like crunchbang is about to install properly :D
[18:54] <Ben1> hey guys, anyone know how small you can get ubuntu server edition?
[18:54] <podman> i've been looking at logitech quickcam 9000 and philips spc 900
[18:55] <podman> they seem to be on the list to get working easily in ubuntu..
[18:55] <sirstan_> benl: ~5 inches
[18:55] <Ben1> lol thanks sirstan
[18:55] <stefg> Ben1: if you press it really hard you can get away with 500-600 MB
[18:55] <ace_III> Hi, Just installed samba on Ubuntu 8.04 and when logging in from a winxp machine, following error: create_builtin_administrators: Failed to create Administrators
[18:55] <sirstan_> Ben1, i bet you could get it really small with a tiny usb disk!
[18:55] <podman> ps, i suck with hardware :-/
[18:55] <feitingen> podman: they sounds like good candidates, you might want to check the gspca website
[18:55] <yamanickill> sirstan_: thats huge.
[18:55] <sirstan_> yamanickill, its usually impressive when viewed.
[18:56] <Ben1> oh dear what did i start....
[18:56] <yamanickill> sirstan_: what was it on?
[18:56] <sirstan_> yamanickill, CDR?
[18:56] <yamanickill> 5 inches...ok lol
[18:56] <lukeW> podman,   have you seen the Clique HUE HD? I was thinking about buying that
[18:56] <lukeW> but i'm not sure how great it is with ubuntu
[18:56] <podman> haven't heard of that
[18:56] <yamanickill> dance with me geeks...it has installed :D:D:D
[18:56] <jeroen-> bazhang: installing 177 now
[18:57] <jeroen-> live cd is also not loadinf\
[18:57] <jeroen-> g
[18:57] <_M4rk_> does anyone know how i can install imap on ubuntu?
[18:57] <jeroen-> also brown screem
[18:57] <jeroen-> n
[18:57] <ace_III> iks tghere something wrong with samba on ubuntu hardy ?
[18:57] <sirstan_> ace_III: works fine here.
[18:57] <DIFH-iceroot> _M4rk_: imap is a protocoll not a program
[18:57] <Ben1> anyway, I want to set up a web proxy server running squidguard. all it needs is linux, apache1, squid and squidguard. The hard drive I have is 512Mb
[18:57] <lukeW> anyone know what's up with pulseaudio in intrepid?
[18:58] <sirstan_> Ben1, checkout smoothwall
[18:58] <_M4rk_> DIFH-iceroot: how do i set it up?
[18:58] <yamanickill> *dancing*
[18:58] <stefg> _M4rk_: all major mail apps support the client side, if you want an IMAP capable mail server look at ebox
[18:58] <DIFH-iceroot> _M4rk_: what do you want to do? using an imap mail-box? then use thunderbird
[18:58] <feitingen> lukeW: i got pulseaudio working fine, do you have the alsaplugin for pulseaudio installed?
[18:58] <lukeW> i don't remember dealing with that in particular
[18:59] <lukeW> i'll have a google thx
[18:59] <costlyeffects> can someone please help me setup my simple 2 computer network :( :( :(  :( :( :(  :( :( :(
[18:59] <_M4rk_> i want to make it so i can send and recive emails on my server?
[18:59] <podman> dang... can't find that site i had with the list...
[18:59] <feitingen> lukeW: googe for the perfect pulseaudio setup or something like that, it is a very good guide
[18:59] <jeroen-> still no effect
[18:59] <ikonia> costlyeffects: stop with all the :( stuff
[18:59] <ikonia> costlyeffects: just ask a question and wait for an answer please
[18:59] <Ben1> sirstan_ I have looked into that stuff... im gonna have one machine as a firewall running IPCOP, but I want the squid on a separate box. it's a thin client with 256 ram and 512 DiskOnChip. unfortunately it is currently running winxpe and doesnt boot coz of drivers
[18:59] <stefg> costlyeffects: ... running which OS ?
[18:59] <lukeW> feitingen,  thx - it's been really bugging me lately, so it'll be great to have it sorted
[19:00] <costlyeffects> both ubuntu
[19:00] <ikonia> costlyeffects: what is the actual issue ?
[19:00] <stefg> costlyeffects: i'd use sshfs... much simpler than samba or nfs
[19:01] <podman> it wasn't this one either: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[19:01] <ace_III> sirstan_ on 8.04? it works when i use ubuntu as clietn - no problem but with winxp as client, it doesn't work
[19:01] <costlyeffects> i simply cant get the computers to connect with nfs. i want to be able to use drives on my of my pc on my laptop as if they were my laptops drives
[19:01] <stefg> costlyeffects: install openssh-server on both machines and use the 'connect to server' applet to connect to the other machine (using ssh as protocol)
[19:01] <ikonia> costlyeffects: ok, so what have you done and what is the exact error/problem
[19:02] <costlyeffects> i post the errors and get yelled at or get ignored
[19:02] <podman> was trying to do some googling and see if it were possible to get a sony handycam to work as a "webcam".. i so suck at hardware
[19:02] <ikonia> costlyeffects: use a pastebin
[19:02] <feitingen> costlyeffects: pastebin the errors
[19:03] <ikonia> Ubuntobot: I hope you not trying to run a bot in this channel
[19:04] <jeroen-> hardy live cd works
[19:04] <jeroen-> why does intrepid NOT work!
[19:04] <dirtbag666> hi!
[19:04] <stan> my system is overheating with ubuntu (but not windows) ..
[19:05] <Ground0_> hello
[19:05] <Ground0_> !hi | dirtbag666
[19:05] <dirtbag666> quick problem: My Canon EOS 300D digital camera is perfectly recognized by KDE, but I need to know, where it is mounted or what's its name in /dev !! Any idea?
[19:05] <evilx_> anyone know where the no via driver for xorg?
[19:05] <Zombie> dirtbag666: Check dmesg
[19:05] <evilx_> I have a video cardf that Via VT8623 and I dont see the driver for it
[19:06] <dirtbag666> Zombie: thx, I'll try
[19:06] <ikonia> !away > moo
[19:06] <Guest21976> i didnt get a private message
[19:06] <stefg> stan: then you should look at lm-sensors and use a cpu throttling governor
[19:06] <[Spooky]> Isnt there any GUI tool to search for wireless SSID?
[19:06] <ikonia> !away | Overshee
[19:06] <stan> stefg, no seriously.  does ubuntu not work well on dell latitudes?
[19:06] <Overshee> aah
[19:06] <Overshee> well then
[19:06] <Overshee> im pretty much done here
[19:07] <Overshee> i might pop in for a question later
[19:07] <ASULutzy> [Spooky]: Er, Network Manager does that?
[19:07] <dirtbag666> "[18495.326748] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7" mh. Okay, what's this? ^^
[19:08]  * hellues wdf
[19:08]  * hellues i understand union intersect and except
[19:08] <sevenseeker> how well supported is the following graphics card SLI combo: dual ATI CrossFireX Mobility 3870?
[19:08] <stefg> stan: that depends... you should google for the exact model and 'ubuntu' as search term and find out what the forums say. I think either acpi isn't working properly or you need to enable some powersaving features (and find ou why they aren't enabled as they should)
[19:08] <benpicco> Hi, is it unproblematic to set the reserved-blocks-percentage to zero on an external hard drive?
[19:09] <benpicco> (ext3)
[19:09] <stan> lol
[19:09] <stefg> benpicco: that's ok, and reasonable
[19:09] <stan> temp1: +86.5C
[19:09] <stan> time for windows on this laptop!
[19:10] <benpicco> thx stefg
[19:10] <podman> bah, i give up webcams for the day, back to work...
[19:10] <ASULutzy> stan: 86.5C? Time for a new AC or a better fan
[19:10] <stefg> stan: youz've got some acpi issues to sort out ... or use a newer kernel. which version are you using?
[19:10] <podman> oh
[19:10] <lukasz> I will use Amarok 1.04 for now
[19:11] <lukasz> The new one didn't work to well :(
[19:11] <lukasz> Ok what is a good messenger for voice chat!
[19:11] <bazhang> lukasz, you need intrepid for that, or find a hardy ppa
[19:11] <lukasz> Its fine
[19:11] <lukasz> I had installed new Amarok
[19:12] <Zambezi> I installed Ubuntu on (sdd), it asked if I wanted to install grub to master boot record which apparently was hde. And after that hde (LUKS-partion) isn't possible to decrypt. Is it possible grub erase the whole drive?
[19:12] <bazhang> lukasz, did not paddy suggest telepathy?
[19:12] <[Spooky]> ASULutzy: Nah there i must know the SSID?
[19:12] <lukasz> I will install it again
[19:13] <ASULutzy> [Spooky]: It should list all the SSID's it sees, it basically just gives a graphical frontend for iwlist <dev> scanning
[19:13] <onetinsoldier> sevenseeker: hello. have you considered using the ati fglrx driver? it works great for most ati cards. an open-source driver may work ok too
[19:13] <meoblast001> hi
[19:13] <ASULutzy> [Spooky]: Just left click it
[19:13] <meoblast001> my friend has a laptop and he wanted to install ubuntu but he told me when he booted the cd, his laptops mouse wouldnt work... he said when he went back to vista it worked though
[19:13] <meoblast001> why might this be?
[19:14] <stefg> !touchpad | meoblast001
[19:15] <sevenseeker> onetinsoldier: yes, I used that in the past with mixed results (> 5 years ago), but am spec'ing out some systems now.  I wasn't happy with ATI's official fglrx drivers and the open source ones didn't support my card then.  I am glad to hear they work good now
[19:15] <lukasz> I have tried the new Amarok
[19:15] <lukasz> Nothing will play in it
[19:16] <thorin81> looking for help with sound on 8.10. I finally got wireless going but when that happened I lost all my sound. It was working just fine, but now... nothing. I am running an SiS card. ANy advice??
[19:17] <stefg> !sound | thorin81
[19:17] <onetinsoldier> sevenseeker: it has worked great for a few people that i have helped to get the driver installed for and their xorg.conf setup for. i don't know about dual card deals. but anyway, the 8.12 driver works great for my own HIS 4850 and some other folks that i have helped
[19:17] <d0lphin_n0el> is there anyway to i put in my laptop working whith 60 hz whithout i allways need to type >>> nvidia-settings
[19:18] <d0lphin_n0el> looks the xorg don`t work even replace the nvidia-settings
[19:18] <d0lphin_n0el> :x
[19:18] <ace_III> Neve rmind I got it.
[19:18] <stefg> !fixres | d0lphin_n0el
[19:18] <sevenseeker> onetinsoldier: thank you for the info, I am hoping SLI works good too
[19:19] <retskrad> Guyas, is this ubuntu IRC?
[19:19] <Pici> retskrad: It is indeed.
[19:19] <onetinsoldier> sevenseeker: i hear you. wish i knew about SLI. at any rate, good luck!
[19:20] <usser> d0lphin_n0el, run nvidia-settings with sudo setup everything and click on save settings button
[19:20] <stefg> retskrad: no, you just found a secret opensolaris dev-channel, using #ubuntu only to confuse people
[19:20] <meoblast001> stefg: how would he install that if he cant move his mouse?
[19:20] <usser> pfft opensolaris
[19:21] <stefg> meoblast001: does he have an external USB mouse at hand? usually these work, even if the internal touchpad doesnt
[19:21] <detrix> Hello everyone.  need some quick help. I am trying to install the gstreamer restricted extras, but it says this is conflicting with other programs. How do I find out what program is conflicting?
[19:21] <d0lphin_n0el> stefg i have this for more then one year allready ask a few times i don`t bealiver much this will works and will be allways the same thing LOL but that okk thanks for the help i will try again ... don`t know very wel why i want one desktop thta os dont have resolution all this time but but that ok someting must be
[19:21] <d0lphin_n0el> :)
[19:21] <meoblast001> stefg: he said he could borrow one from his grandmas
[19:21] <costlyeffects> http://paste.ubuntu.com/95304/
[19:21] <costlyeffects> could anyone help
[19:22] <onetinsoldier> detrix: i've never used this command much, but try   aptitude whynot <package>   ...let me know if that helps
[19:22] <usser> costlyeffects, thats fine, its a warning not error
[19:23] <meoblast001> stefg: he said his caps lock was blinking on and off too
[19:23] <costlyeffects> then why doesnt my computer show up under network? it just shows up as a windows  share
[19:23] <thanius> Hi, I'm having trouble with dvdauthor, anyone care to help?
[19:23] <costlyeffects> networks*
[19:24] <stefg> meoblast001: that's a kernel panic.... so the mouse is the last of his problems then
[19:24] <usser> costlyeffects, it shouldnt nfs shares have to mounted explicitly as far as i know ubuntu doesnt have any gui built in for it
[19:24] <usser> costlyeffects, try sudo mount ipaddress:/sharename
[19:24] <ASULutzy> meoblast001: If his caps lock was blinking on and off, it wasn't his mousepad that wasn't working, it was his entire computer
[19:24] <meoblast001> stefg: he said it kept doing that
[19:24] <costlyeffects> usser: how do i mount the entire system?
[19:25] <stefg> !bootoptions | meoblast001
[19:25] <usser> costlyeffects, the entire filesystem???
[19:25] <costlyeffects> yes
[19:25] <usser> costlyeffects, thats not very secure and i dont think its even allowed
[19:25] <d0lphin_n0el> usser i do it manually and nathing need to replace the olf xorg
[19:25] <costlyeffects> ok
[19:25] <gmathews> Hi, how can i Get my video to play in a tiny window at the bottom right of my desktop like media player can do
[19:25] <pablop> can anyone help with a startup script on ubuntu server?
[19:25] <meoblast001> stefg: i dont know which one he should use
[19:25] <lianimator> !ask | pablop
[19:26] <usser> gmathews, kde4 and plasma widgets :)
[19:26] <stefg> pablop:  #ubuntu-server ?
[19:26] <pablop> I have installed ejabberd - xmpp server
[19:26] <lianimator> is there a way to password protect an application? namely, Evolution.
[19:26] <pablop> I can start it usin: ejabberdctl start
[19:26] <gmathews> usser: I am on ubuntu - dont know about kde4?
[19:26] <pablop> how can I make is start on reboot?
[19:26] <retskrad> whats up everyone
[19:26] <retskrad> daaaaaaang 1,300 eprs..
[19:26] <usser> gmathews, are u on latest, intrepid?
[19:26] <retskrad> pablob
[19:26] <gmathews> usser: yes
[19:27] <retskrad> I think you need to go to add or remove programs or synaptic
[19:27] <retskrad> and search for kde
[19:27] <phobos_> nazdar!
[19:27] <pablop> rtskrad: I don't have graphics install
[19:27] <phobos_> :-)
[19:27] <phobos_> hi!
[19:27] <phobos_> :-)
[19:27] <stefg> meoblast001: that depends... he should first run a boot into single mode (without bootsplash) and see which errors scroll by dfuring the verbose boot process on the console
[19:27] <AnnonyMouse> a merry christmas & prosperous new year 2 u all & ur families
[19:27] <AnnonyMouse> ;)
[19:27] <retskrad> guys
[19:27] <gmathews> Same to you AnnonyMouse :)
[19:28] <worldcitizen> thanks anon
[19:28] <meoblast001> stefg: so hit the control alt f1 while usplash is up?
[19:28] <retskrad> is anyone here have knowledge in network i ubuntu? (internet)
[19:28] <worldcitizen> internet friendly machine :) :)
[19:28] <usser> gmathews, kde4 is basically an alternative desktop environment, similar to the default one but different :) its quite big, lots of stuff to download
[19:28] <AnnonyMouse> retskrad :  whazup?
[19:28] <Pici> pablop: You can use update-rc.d to add a new service to start at boot.
[19:28] <retskrad> ussser
[19:28] <retskrad> kde needs graphic power
[19:28] <gmathews> usser isnt there something similiar for gnome?
[19:28] <pablop> pici: do I need to create a script on init.d as well?
[19:28] <subone> I just upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 and the "Hardware Drivers" dialog is asking to install my ATI restricted driver, but when I click activate it says downloading for a moment and then stops. Any ideas?
[19:28] <lukasz> well I am outahere for now
[19:29] <AnnonyMouse> Pici : use bum 2 manage startup services
[19:29] <AnnonyMouse> easy-peasy
[19:29] <costlyeffects> usser now i get this:
[19:29] <lukasz> thank you for your help
[19:29] <costlyeffects> mee@mee-desktop:~$ sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home /<IP_ADDRESS>home/home
[19:29] <costlyeffects> mount.nfs: internal erro
[19:29] <usser> gmathews, as far as i know no. but you can
[19:29] <lukasz> Its sad that the Amarok 2.0 doesn't play stuff its fine
[19:29] <stefg> meoblast001: simply 'esc' and 'cursor down' to chose the single mode from grubs menu. boot splash is automatically disabled for theis mode
[19:29] <usser> costlyeffects, sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home /mnt try that
[19:29] <Pici> pablop: Yes, just into /etc/init.d/ and update-rc.d will take care of the links for you
[19:29] <lukasz> I will wait unitll it comes out for ubuntu
[19:29] <lukasz> UbuntuHardy:D
[19:29] <gmathews> lukasz: my Amarok 2.0 plays stuff - its just buggy
[19:29] <fwaokda> why does my VLC notification icon have a christmas hat on it and how do i remove it since... christmas is over!
[19:29] <lukasz> hmm
[19:29] <lukasz> Mine didn't
[19:29] <AnnonyMouse> subone : either use Envy or run a apt-get update & upgrade
[19:30] <costlyeffects> usser thats just another folder
[19:30] <lukasz> The old one works fine
[19:30] <MattJ> pablop: Did you install using the package manager, or the ejabberd binary installer?
[19:30] <meoblast001> stefg: oh
[19:30] <usser> gmathews, you can read more at kde.org, if u decide to install it sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:30] <pablop> MattJ: build it from source
[19:30] <subone> AnnonyMouse: idk what Envy is but i will run those commands
[19:30] <costlyeffects> pici can you help me out here
[19:30] <pablop> MattJ: the package doesn't work
[19:30] <lukasz> It doesn't play pls stuff :(
[19:30] <usser> costlyeffects, your command had incorrect syntax the last argument is a local directory
[19:30] <gmathews> usser: I dont know if i want to install a whole new desktop environment just for that one feature ;/
[19:30] <AnnonyMouse> anyone know what I can use to sort out a VERY big music repository : 120 G unsorted
[19:30] <Pici> costlyeffects: I don't really know about nfs stuff, so I won't be of any help.
[19:31] <costlyeffects> oh ok usser
[19:31] <subone> AnnonyMouse: everything is already up to date
[19:31] <MattJ> pablop: Well to run at startup, you need an init script. The source doesn't include one, the package does.
[19:31] <usser> AnnonyMouse, amarok :)
[19:31] <retskrad> is ubuntu 8.10 better of 8.043
[19:31] <AnnonyMouse> costlyeffects : NFS can be tricky. make use of webmin to simplify sys-admin
[19:31] <retskrad> 8.04
[19:31] <pablop> MattJ: can't I call: ejabberdctl start
[19:31] <costlyeffects> webmin?
[19:31] <Tim_> anyone know how to setup a virtual directory with tftpd?
[19:31] <lukasz> New amarok works
[19:31] <subone> AnnonyMouse: i tried running `/usr/bin/jockey-gtk` from the command line but no useful command line output was presented
[19:31] <lukasz> I have 2.0
[19:31] <lukasz> Yey
[19:32] <stefg> AnnonyMouse: mkfs.vfat /dev/[yourmusicdrive]  ... that makes sorting quite easy (NO... don't, that's formatting the drive)
[19:32] <lukasz> I just did somethinking :D
[19:32] <AnnonyMouse> ehehehehe
[19:32] <jrgp> how can I have my ubuntu laptop to wirelessly connect to my hotspot before I log in?
[19:32] <drewby> pidgin crashes when I open the buddy list
[19:32] <gmathews> Anyone have a solution to getting a mini window of my video to play in the corner of my screen?
[19:32] <AnnonyMouse> drewby : skype plugin?
[19:32] <RukusX> hey how much swap space should i use on my hard drive?
[19:33] <drewby> AnnonyMouse: nope
[19:33] <usser> jrgp, thats not possible, new network manager does some setup before you login so it connects faster but as far as i know you still need to login
[19:33] <AnnonyMouse> RukusX : 2 x RAM
[19:33] <retskrad> Is ubuntu 8.4 better or 8.10
[19:33] <Pici> RukusX: How much ram do you have and are you planning to hibernate?
[19:33] <jrgp> retskrad, go with 8.10
[19:33] <AnnonyMouse> drewby :  could b bad install
[19:33] <RukusX> AnnonyMouse, and why do you say that? i have never saw my computer use more than 5mb swap so it seems a waste
[19:33] <usser> jrgp, you can bypass the network manager and setup your connection in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:33] <walrus17> hello :d
[19:33] <walrus17> gania
[19:33] <walrus17> :d
[19:33] <walrus17> You know what?
[19:33] <walrus17> :)
[19:33] <FloodBot3> walrus17: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <AnnonyMouse> drewby :  apt-get uninsalll pidgin, purge, install
[19:34] <RukusX> Pici does hibernations hibernate to swap?
[19:34] <walrus17> *giana
[19:34] <subone> Anyone else have ideas on my issue? I can't be the only one that had this issue :P
[19:34] <Pici> RukusX: It does.
[19:34] <RukusX> got ya
[19:34] <retskrad> Anyone here who have knowledge in netowrking in ubuntu? My internet doesnt seem to work in uubntu, but it works in windows.. I have a wired modem
[19:34] <drewby> AnnonyMouse: i'll give it a shot
[19:34] <Pici> RukusX: So you'll want at least as much swap as ram if you're planning to do that.
[19:34] <drewby> bbl
[19:34] <costlyeffects> usser same error
[19:34] <retskrad> and my chip is the most supported one on the planet
[19:34] <usser> retskrad, wired modem? cable? dsl?
[19:34] <walrus17> all my ubuntu problems have been solved, horay!!!! :)
[19:34] <RukusX> i have 1.5 ram, so instead of 3gb i'll leave 1.5 then
[19:34] <usser> costlyeffects, can you pastebin your /etc/exports
[19:34] <retskrad> I dont know, but I believe its cable
[19:35] <retskrad> usser
[19:35] <usser> retskrad, are u connected with a usb cable?
[19:35] <retskrad> can we talk in private chat
[19:35] <walrus17> I installed windows :)
[19:35] <symptom> test
[19:35] <usser> retskrad, just prepend  your messages with my name i can read it just fine
[19:35] <walrus17> yep
[19:35] <fwaokda> anyone here keep up with netbooks? Can anyone recommend a good one to run windows/ubuntu?
[19:35] <costlyeffects> its just one line: / <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[19:35] <walrus17> And no problems at all.... :)
[19:35] <nullboy> hey i've noticed that 2.6.28 breaks thinkfinger on my system, Arch users and Ubuntu users have been reporting the same. Do any of you know of a patch yet?
[19:35] <retskrad> usser: ill send you a pic of my modem
[19:35] <AnnonyMouse> fwaoka : ditch windows
[19:35] <usser> costlyeffects, you cant export your root
[19:35] <stefg> fwaokda: #hardware ?
[19:35] <AnnonyMouse> netbooks r really single OS systems
[19:36] <usser> costlyeffects, period
[19:36] <AnnonyMouse> LOW-spec
[19:36] <Pici> nullboy: The supported version of Ubuntu doesn't run 2.6.28 yet.
[19:36] <usser> costlyeffects, change it to /home <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[19:36] <drewby> AnnonyMouse: no such luck
[19:36] <fwaokda> stefg, thanks
[19:36] <AnnonyMouse> drewby : use wine 4 ur win games
[19:36] <costlyeffects> usser how do i list multiple directories?
[19:36] <retskrad> usser: http://www.perecom.com/DPC2100.jpg
[19:36] <drewby> AnnonyMouse: huh?
[19:36] <retskrad> usser: that si my modem
[19:36] <costlyeffects> such as an external hdd
[19:36] <usser> costlyeffects, add more lines just with different directories
[19:36] <AnnonyMouse> drewby : netbooks
[19:37] <costlyeffects> ok
[19:37] <laura> slt tous le monde
[19:37] <nullboy> Pici: that's undertstandable, i'm just asking if any people have dealt with it yet and know of a patch that might be floating around
[19:37] <smokeymirror> hey guys
[19:37] <drewby> AnnonyMouse: I don't play any windows games, maybe that was directed at someone else? netbooks?
[19:37] <hateball> !fr | laura
[19:37] <AnnonyMouse> drewby : i have an eepc 701 runnig eeeBunut
[19:37] <usser> retskrad, can i see the back of it?
[19:37] <smokeymirror> is there anyone willing to help me trying to get my intel wireless to work?
[19:37] <smokeymirror> its recognized by the software, it just can't be turned on
[19:37] <stefg> !wireless
[19:37] <drewby> AnnonyMouse: you must have me confused with someone else
[19:37] <smokeymirror> i have followed that guide to the tee
[19:37] <AnnonyMouse> i do
[19:37] <usser> costlyeffects, and whatever directory your export is the same one to mount so if you export /home you mount with mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home /mnt
[19:38] <smokeymirror> it doesn't work for me
[19:38] <retskrad> usser: check at the top, PM
[19:38] <usser> costlyeffects, if you export /opt you mount it with mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/opt /mnt etc
[19:38] <hateball> smokeymirror: make sure you didnt boot with the killswitch on, there's a bug...
[19:38] <smokeymirror> i think thats what i did
[19:38] <smokeymirror> well
[19:39] <smokeymirror> i installed ubuntu clean never used vista that came with the lappy
[19:39] <smokeymirror> so the killswitch seems to be on, how do i fix that
[19:39] <ozzloy> i have a machine that stopped responding to pings and was rebooted before i got here.  what error logs can i look at to determine what happened?
[19:39] <hateball> smokeymirror: No idea what kind of laptop you have. If it's a fn+other key combo, or an actual switch etc. Main point is that wifi has to be enabled before you boot Ubuntu
[19:40] <AnnonyMouse> ozzloy : dmesg
[19:40] <erUSUL> ozzloy: /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog etc
[19:40] <smokeymirror> oh
[19:40] <hateball> !pm | smokeymirror
[19:40] <smokeymirror> no im on a hp dv5 with a touch button
[19:40] <lukasz> How do I add music to Amarok?
[19:40] <lukasz> listen.pls!
[19:40] <smokeymirror> oh sorry
[19:40] <lukasz> The 2.0 one
[19:40] <costlyeffects> oh ok
[19:40] <costlyeffects> usser
[19:40] <eseven73> !enter > lukasz
[19:41] <smokeymirror> yea its a hp dv5 with a touch button, it has touch buttons on the top and thats the only place that i see any type of wifi switch
[19:41] <usser> costlyeffects, yes
[19:41] <hateball> smokeymirror: just make sure it's shiny blue or whatever, before you boot Ubuntu... Then again, there could be something else that makes it... not work. Just saying there's a bug regarding killswitches
[19:41] <ozzloy> erUSUL: thanks
[19:41] <subone> nvm i think i had an outdated driver i just downloaded it manually
[19:41] <lukasz> Sorry!
[19:41] <smokeymirror> well i've never seen it blue
[19:41] <smokeymirror> because i never used the vista that was installed
[19:42] <smokeymirror> so i just went straigt from factory boot to ubuntu install
[19:42] <costlyeffects> usser same error
[19:42] <cleanmen> hi
[19:43] <usser> costlyeffects, pastebin your exports, did u run exportfs -a after you edited the file
[19:43] <costlyeffects> yes
[19:43] <jrgp> in NetworkManager, what does Link-Local only do for wired ethernet connections?
[19:43] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> well is debian supported here in case the query might be a bit ubuntu related?
[19:43] <costlyeffects> usser: /home <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[19:43] <lukasz> I will reboot
[19:44] <lukasz> I will see you all sooon maybe toomarow
[19:44] <usser> costlyeffects, cool now do sudo exportfs -a and sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-server restart
[19:44] <A4Tech> hello again
[19:44] <hateball> smokeymirror: well there should be a manual or something. either you push the button... or it's a fn+something combination
[19:44] <Pici> sh4d3sl4y3r_: No, thats what #debian is for.
[19:44] <smokeymirror> ok
[19:44] <A4Tech> Pici help me please
[19:45] <smokeymirror> there was only a slip that came with my laptop no windows cd or anything
[19:45] <usser> costlyeffects, also that ip address in /etc/exports specifies which computers are allowed to connect if you're not connecting from that ip the access will be denied
[19:45] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> lol my question is something which #debian will send me to #ubuntu and the vice versa, lol.. by anyways thanks
[19:45] <smokeymirror> ill go look in that and see
[19:45] <smokeymirror> thanks for your help i will be back later if i still cannot figure it out
[19:45] <smokeymirror> thanks a lot hateball :) ja matane
[19:45] <Pici> A4Tech: With?
[19:45] <A4Tech> Pici with bot
[19:46] <Pici> A4Tech: Care to join me in #ubuntu-bots then
[19:46] <A4Tech> Pici die chennel =(
[19:46] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ok i wil ask in ubuntu-offtopic then .. xD
[19:46] <costlyeffects> usser same error
[19:47] <usser> costlyeffects, is the ip you're connecting from <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:47] <costlyeffects> yes
[19:47] <ska> I just installed a Dell Latitude D600 , but eth0 doesn't have a driver.
[19:47] <usser> costlyeffects, are u trying to mount the exported directory on the local machine?
[19:47] <ska> At least it doesn't show in dmesg.
[19:47] <usser> costlyeffects, try changing the ip in /etc/exports to <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:48] <recon69> got a problem installing "sudo apt-get libpng12-dev" , anyone know what going on?
[19:48] <ozzloy> i want my machine to run a network script on boot.  what's the proper way to do this?
[19:48] <eseven73> recon69: you forgot 'install'
[19:48] <ozzloy> in ubuntu 8.04?
[19:48] <eseven73> 'sudo apt-get install libpng12-dev'
[19:48] <jrgp> costlyeffects, make the ip this to allow anyone to mount: <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[19:48] <costlyeffects> ok usser i did that and it gave the same error
[19:48] <usser> costlyeffects, or if u want to allow anyone on your network change it to this /home <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[19:49] <usser> costlyeffects, make sure you do exportfs -a and sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart each time you edit the file
[19:49] <max9ai> Is somebody here?
[19:49] <eseven73> nope
[19:49] <max9ai> Really? oO
[19:49] <eseven73> ;)
[19:49] <danand_> ozzloy: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ ??
[19:50] <danand_> ozzloy: and /etc/network/interfaces file ??
[19:50] <costlyeffects> actually, this time it said: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/home
[19:50] <nickguest> hi guys, i'm running xubuntu-live but when running fsck it sayd i dont have fsck.ntfs... how to get it?
[19:50] <nickguest> *says
[19:50] <usser> costlyeffects, try this /home <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[19:51] <Flannel> nickguest: As far as I'm aware, Linux still can't fsck an NTFS partition
[19:51] <usser> costlyeffects, and mount it with sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home /mnt
[19:51] <recon69> eseven73: well, it's a friend and he had install in the command, was 8.10 , saw a post in the forums reporting similar , wondering if it's a known bug with 8.10?
[19:51] <stefg> !ntfs | nickguest:
[19:51] <williammanda_> I'm have trouble executing  bin file.....I get bash: ecs.bin: command not found...I am in the directory where the file is located...any ideas?
[19:51] <raylu> usser: why would you mount something at /mnt?
[19:51] <Hondo_Kitsune> Ok, how do I make /usr/share/vuze/ writable by anyone/thing?
[19:51] <raylu> Hondo_Kitsune: you don't want to do that
[19:51] <nickguest> Flannel really? stefg thx
[19:52] <stefg> !permissions | Hondo_Kitsune
[19:52] <Hondo_Kitsune> raylu: I do want to do that, Vuze cannot update unless I do it
[19:52] <raylu> Hondo_Kitsune: then run vuze as root
[19:52] <ozzloy> danand_: thanks!
[19:52] <nickguest> Flannel and why exists fsck.ntfs then?
[19:52] <raylu> Hondo_Kitsune: or install it to your home dir
[19:52] <Hondo_Kitsune> raylu: I shouldn't need to
[19:52] <usser> raylu, thats what this directory is for :)
[19:52] <jme> Having a weird power management issue here - my GNOME Power Manager insists I'm on AC power even when it's disconnected from the charger, with battery discharging
[19:52] <Flannel> nickguest: If it exists, then I'm mistaken
[19:52] <eseven73> recon69: im not familiar with that lib, you'd problably have to google for the "bug" or just keep asking, just dont repeat more than like every 5-10 mins.
[19:53] <lukasz> I have succesfull Amarok 2.0 working :D
[19:53] <raylu> usser: no, you're mounting it at /mnt instead of a directory inside /mnt
[19:53] <raylu> nickguest: it looks for fsck.[file system name]
[19:53] <raylu> nickguest: so if fsck.ntfs were ever developed, it would work without additional configuration
[19:53] <Hondo_Kitsune> raylu: It was a .DEB package
[19:53] <stefg> nickguest: but Flannel is right... ntfs is proprietary, so there'S no linux implementazion of chkdsk for ntfs. you can only force to mount a damaged ntfs to rescue files, but this doesn't repair anything and is dangerous
[19:53] <usser> raylu, yea. i just got used to doing it that way, i guess separate mount points in mnt is the proper way
[19:53] <raylu> Hondo_Kitsune: well, whoever packaged that didn't think that through. it's still possible to install debs in your home dir
[19:53] <lukasz> Thank you for your help everyone you made my day :)
[19:54] <eseven73> recon69: you can try to find the bug in http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[19:54] <tim167> hi, i have a 'marble mouse' which under windows can simulate a scroll button by pushing button 3 or 4 while scrolling the track ball, how can i do this in ubuntu ? thanks
[19:55] <eseven73> oops https*  recon69
[19:55] <nickguest> ok thank you guys
[19:55] <Hondo_Kitsune> raylu: Can't you just tell me what to type to set the perms. The link you gave me makes no sence to me
[19:55] <raylu> Hondo_Kitsune: i didn't give that link and, again, you don't want to do that
[19:55] <stefg> Hondo_Kitsune: so you want the 'admin' group to have write access to that dir (b/c only admins/members of the sudoer group should be avble to do an update
[19:55] <williammanda_> I'm have trouble executing  bin file.....I get bash: ecs.bin: command not found...I am in the directory where the file is located...any ideas?
[19:55] <nickguest> i go, goodbye
[19:55] <raylu> Hondo_Kitsune: it defeats the purpose of having permissions if you hand out write access
[19:55] <jme> Hondo_Kitsune: you can chmod 777 it, but again you're probably making a mistake to do that
[19:55] <Hondo_Kitsune> raylu: It is one directory
[19:56] <max9ai> jme: Why?
[19:56] <raylu> Hondo_Kitsune: that only means it's less stupid
[19:56] <trae> are there any howto's on setting up: D-Link DWL-AG132 USB wireless network adapater "card"?
[19:56] <raylu> Hondo_Kitsune: it doesn't make it a smart thing to do
[19:56] <Hondo_Kitsune> raylu: Never said it was, running as root to do the update
[19:56] <jme> max9ai: giving global permissions to any file, frankly, is just asking for trouble
[19:56] <trae> I've tried to google, but not with much success
[19:56] <enzotib> williammanda_, try ./ecs.bin
[19:56] <recon69> eseven73: thx, i'll keep digging
[19:57] <Hondo_Kitsune> raylu: then i'll leave it in user mode for normal operations
[19:57] <lukasz> I am outahere for today!
[19:57] <jme> trae: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported to get started
[19:57] <stefg> Hondo_Kitsune: sudo chgrp [you_dir] admin && sudo chmod [your_dir] 775
[19:57] <max9ai> jme: Well, what's about NVIDIA graphic drivers, for example?
[19:58] <williammanda_> enzotib bash: ./ecs.bin: No such file or directory
[19:58] <Squideshi> Is there any advantage to using a swap partition, rather than a swap file?
[19:58] <jme> !ubottu
[19:58] <stefg> Squideshi: yes... making hibernation work
[19:59] <jme> !nvidia | max9ai
[19:59] <Merrnt> hcitool scan
[19:59] <Merrnt> er wrong window
[19:59] <Squideshi> stefg: hibernation won't work with a swap file?
[19:59] <stefg> Squideshi: no, not supported by ubuntu
[19:59] <max9ai> I've already installed it. Thanks. :)
[20:00] <TheFuzzball> Will having 8GB of RAM make apps compile faster?
[20:00] <AngryElf> why are ubuntu's 64 bit iso's labled "amd64" when other manufacturors make 64-bit cpus?
[20:01] <jme> AngryElf: other OEMs use the AMD 64-bit instructions
[20:01] <Pici> AngryElf: Because they conform to AMD's 64bit specification.
[20:01] <stefg> Squideshi: ... and taking aside performance considerations like fragmented swap files
[20:01] <AngryElf> ok
[20:01] <ASULutzy> AngryElf: AMD got there first, they get to name it :)
[20:01] <usser> TheFuzzball, memory doesnt affect compilation time that much, most of it is cpu speed
[20:01] <williammanda_> anyone else have any ideas on the problem executing the bin file?
[20:02] <TheFuzzball> usser: ok, I have a pretty fast CPU anyhow :p
[20:02] <Kartagis> i've to make dhcp write /etc/resolv.conf. how do i do that? can someone give me an example?
[20:03] <Slart> Kartagis: it doesn't do it automatically?
[20:03] <Pici> Kartagis: Take a look at the prepend domain-name-servers option in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[20:03] <usser> Kartagis, look in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[20:03] <Slart> williammanda_: what's the problem? can't execute it? error messages?
[20:03] <williammanda_> slart...yes
[20:03] <max9ai> I have install i386 ubuntu on my core2duo just because I was scared than amd64 will not work. Was I right?
[20:04] <GreedyB> Does anyone know how I would completely remove everything from a drive inside Ubuntu?
[20:04] <Flannel> max9ai: No, either 32bit or 64bit would run just fine
[20:04] <preliumtum> Hi Guys. Got a usb pendrive boot problem. I used ubuntu 8.10 livecd to create a usb boot drive using teh menu option. put it in my Packard Bell Easynote e5142. the pb happily gets as far as firing up syslinux 3.63, then complains about "invalid keyword in configuration file". Twice" then gives the boot: prompt. If i do [enter] it says it can't find linux, if i try "vmlinuz [enter]" it cant...
[20:04] <preliumtum> ...find vmlinuz. if i try "casper/vmlinuz[enter]" it starts to load.. then complains of an invalid or corrupt kernel image. so i copied vmlinuz to the root dir on the usb stick - still complains of invalid or corrupt kernal image. Any ideas?
[20:04] <williammanda_> Slart...william@CQD:~/ecs$ ./ecs.bin bash: ./ecs.bin: No such file or directory
[20:04] <Flannel> max9ai: Of course, running 32bits isn't the end of the world either
[20:04] <ASULutzy> max9ai: Core2Duo's support 64 bit, CoreDuo's do not, iirc
[20:04] <Slart> williammanda_: it's not ECS.bin or Ecs.bin? linux is case sensitive
[20:05] <Kartagis> Pici, I already have prepend domain-name-servers in dhclient.conf. do i need to disable modem dhcp for that to take effect network-wise?
[20:05] <max9ai> Is amd64 better choise for core2duo? x_X
[20:05] <Slart> williammanda_: can you do a pastebin with the output from "ls -l" <-- that's an lower case L and from "./ecs.bin"
[20:05] <Slart> !paste | williammanda_
[20:05] <Flannel> max9ai: They're both fine choices for the processor. The question is: Do you want a 32bit OS or a 64bit OS?
[20:05] <Pici> Kartagis: No, that option will add your custom dns servers before any ones specified by the normal dhcp process.
[20:05] <williammanda_> Slart  william@CQD:~/ecs$ ls ecs.bin     ecs.bin
[20:05] <RawSushi> hello..I'm running ubuntu and having a problem with firefox...don't know if this is a bug or what...but when I go to a link such as youtube, the URL does not change at all when I click on a link.
[20:05] <williammanda_> sorry
[20:05] <RawSushi> in the address bar
[20:05] <Slart> williammanda_: pay attention.. the output from ls -l
[20:06] <Kartagis> Slart, at work, it does. i want to apply the same at home, and i want my desktop and laptop to use the same domain nameservers
[20:06] <stefg> max9ai: only on a server with loads of RAM... the average desktop user with no mare than 4 GB ram is just fine with a 32bit install . flash and some codecs ....
[20:06] <williammanda_> how should I post the results?
[20:06] <stefg> wine.... all that is troublesome on 64 bit
[20:06] <Sa[i]nT> I'm loving this liveCD thing.
[20:06] <Slart> Kartagis: I agree with Pici, I use the prepend option to add my own domain name servers..
[20:07] <Slart> !pastebin | williammanda_
[20:07] <max9ai> I guess, 64-bit OS will work faster on my PC, isn't it?
[20:07] <max9ai> I have only 2Gb RAM. :)
[20:07] <Slart> max9ai: the speed difference is small.. I don't think you'd notice..
[20:07] <stefg> max9ai: you won't notice it... only video encoding will have some benefits.
[20:08] <williammanda_> Slart http://pastebin.com/m7c11241a
[20:08] <Slart> max9ai: the only 64-bit feature normal users really notice is the amount of memory you can use
[20:08] <Slart> williammanda_: thanks.. I'll take a look
[20:08] <stefg> max9ai: so lean back and enjoy that you made the right choice
[20:08] <williammanda_> Slart ty
[20:09] <ASULutzy> max9ai, stefg, Slart: Math-y stuff like encryption, compression, etc, can also experience some significant gains from 64-bit, but overall, if you have < 4GB of RAM, picking 32 bit is fine
[20:09] <regis> hello,I've some severe disk corruption problems...files I create(using ntfs-3g) on the widows NTFS partition disapear after a checkdisk from windows...I have I/O errors after mounting an usb key(vfat) and trying to copy files to it:http://rafb.net/p/QjMTlL27.html...what could be the cause? the proprietary nvidia driver?the scsi driver in the kernel?
[20:10] <costlyeffects> can anyone tell me how to put up a external hard drive on nfs?
[20:10] <Slart> ASULutzy: I've never really measured this but how much faster are we talking here? 50% ? 100% ? 5?
[20:10] <root_____>
[20:11] <max9ai> Thanks 2all, I'm feeling better now. :)
[20:11] <Slart> ASULutzy: I've never seen anything where I felt like "oh.. lucky that I installed a 64 bit OS or I would have been up all night waiting for this" =)
[20:11] <Kartagis> Slart, my /etc/resolv.conf on the desktop has the correct values for the desktop, but i want the same values to apply for the whole network
[20:12] <Slart> Kartagis: do you run your own dhcp server for the network?
[20:12] <raylu> regis: version of ubuntu, kernel, and have you run e2fsck like it says?
[20:12] <ASULutzy> Slart: Yea, I wouldn't lie in bed ruing the day you installed 32 bit, but for something like RSA encryption, two to three times as fast
[20:12] <Kartagis> Slart, i want to
[20:13] <Slart> williammanda_: hmm... everything looks alright..  sure it's not just a silly typo or something? where is this file located? some weird external drive? ntfs-drive?
[20:13] <D3RGPS31> anyone familiar with the e1000e bug >.>
[20:13] <ASULutzy> Slart: But it depends on what graph you look at ;)
[20:13] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i found out my problem :D
[20:13] <ASULutzy> Slart: http://www.linux.com/feature/114024 Has some comparisons
[20:14] <Kartagis> Slart, i need to disable the dhcp server on the router right?
[20:14] <regis> raylu, Linux regis-laptop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux, ubuntu 8.04 , no I didn't
[20:14] <raylu> regis: run that first. the kernel is slightly old, so you could try switching versions
[20:14] <williammanda_> Slart http://pastebin.com/d6c606e80 .....more info
[20:15] <eseven73> are there any GUI utilities to test for hard drive bottlenecks and read/write speeds? Im trying bonnie++ but i cant figure it out :/
[20:15] <Slart> Kartagis: well.. yes.. it's better to only use one dhcp server.. more than that and it tends to get messy
[20:15] <regis> raylu, ok thanks
[20:16] <bonm> hi, how to install beryl?
[20:16] <Kartagis> Slart, then how do i tell the router that <IP_ADDRESS> is the dhcp server? or is that handled automatically?
[20:16] <regis> raylu, i'll do it with a livecd...i'll come back when it's done
[20:16] <eseven73> !beryl
[20:16] <Flannel> bonm: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:16] <treyk4> Okay, this error is really getting annoying. I'm attempting to install ubuntu 8.10 x64 via the alternate cd (the liveCD gets this error also, excluding the first two lines)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/95355/
[20:16] <bonm> Flannel, 8.10
[20:16] <Flannel> bonm: You already have compiz-fusion installed, which is what beryl and compiz have turned into
[20:17] <Slart> Kartagis: you don't have to.. dhcp servers are kind of slutty like that.. they talk to anything =)
[20:17] <Slart> !language | Slart
[20:17] <bonm> Flannal, i wanted the cube effect, where is  it?
[20:18] <costlyeffects> can anyone tell me how to put up a external hard drive on nfs?
[20:18] <Flannel> !ccsm | bonm
[20:18] <raylu> bonm: beryl has been replaced (or merged) by compiz a long time ago
[20:18] <hno1> How do I add en_US.UTF-8 locale support?
[20:18] <Flannel> bonm: You can enable it in CCSM (see one of the two options given to you by ubottu)
[20:18] <Slart> !cube | bonm
[20:19] <stefg> treyk4: broken disks it seems... both of them. the softreset messages are usally harmless, but the I/O errors mean: CD is kaputt (or motherboard/drive has DMA issues)
[20:19] <hno1> costlyeffects: Is it a LAN connected drive with NFS support, or do you want to export an USB connected drive to NFS clients?
[20:19] <Slart> williammanda_: very strange.. there must be something obvious we're missing here..
[20:19] <bonm> thx
[20:19] <costlyeffects> it is a usb drive connected to an nfs client
[20:19] <williammanda_> Slart yes I agree
[20:20] <D3RGPS31> I'm having a hardware issue, Intel 82567LF-2 Gigabit Ethernet Connection with the default e1000e driver, always times out some websites & throttles my bandwidth
[20:20] <treyk4> stefg: trust me, it's not the cd i've burned about 3 cd's now, and they all get this error. they work fine on other computers. and this is a brand new computer, so I doubt it's an issue with the drive being hosed.
[20:20] <hno1> costlyeffects: Please elaborate. Which machine is the drive usb cable connected to, and which machine needs access to it?
[20:20] <preliumtum> Hi Guys. Got a usb pendrive boot problem. I used ubuntu 8.10 livecd to create a usb boot drive using teh menu option. put it in my Packard Bell Easynote e5142. the pb happily gets as far as firing up syslinux 3.63, then complains about "invalid keyword in configuration file". Twice" then gives the boot: prompt. If i do [enter] it says it can't find linux, if i try "vmlinuz [enter]" it cant...
[20:20] <preliumtum> ...find vmlinuz. if i try "casper/vmlinuz[enter]" it starts to load.. then complains of an invalid or corrupt kernel image. so i copied vmlinuz to the root dir on the usb stick - still complains of invalid or corrupt kernal image. Any ideas?
[20:21] <costlyeffects> machine <IP_ADDRESS> is connected to it and machine <IP_ADDRESS> needs access to it.
[20:22] <fatih_akdeniz> hi
[20:22] <stefg> treyk4: i have a server (Foxconn mobo) which shows the softreset errors, too, but just boots normally after that. Either try if bootoptions help, or try an install via USB stick ?
[20:22] <hno1> costlyeffects: Is .3 running NFS services today?
[20:23] <costlyeffects> both are
[20:23] <hno1> costlyeffects: Then it
[20:23] <costlyeffects> both server and client on both
[20:23] <costlyeffects> what?
[20:23] <hno1> costlyeffects: Then it's just to export it from the first and mount it on the second.
[20:23] <costlyeffects> thats what im trying to do
[20:24] <etronik_> Hi all, where should a manual install of the latest bugzilla place or unpack the files ? into /usr/share? or somewhere wlse ? TIA
[20:24] <costlyeffects> what do you think im trying to do
[20:24] <hno1> costlyeffects: Nothing special about USB drives, other than that it needs to be connected before the client attempts to mount..
[20:24] <costlyeffects> ok
[20:24] <eseven73> are there any GUI utilities to test for hard drive bottlenecks and read/write speeds? Im trying bonnie++ but i cant figure it out :/
[20:24] <costlyeffects> hno1 how do i mount it ?
[20:24] <stefg> etronik_: usally the /usr/local tree is for your personal stuuf
[20:25] <etronik_> stefg: thanks, what if I want to build a server (jeos) and make a install for more people, any other place more appropriate ?
[20:25] <costlyeffects> hno1
[20:26] <stefg> etronik_: i'd put it in /usr/local/lib or /usr/local/bin ... these are the traditional places
[20:26] <hno1> costlyeffects: on the server, add the drive to /etc/fstab (with a LABEL or UUID, not device name... USB device names is strange..) and /etc/exports
[20:26] <root_____> anyone know a way to get a menu to pop up in the 'blackbox' desktop using only the keyboard ?
[20:26] <etronik_> stefg: thanks
[20:27] <hno1> costlyeffects: on the client, also add it to /etc/fstab but with a filesystem type of nfs, and device serveraddress:/mount/point (where it's mounted on the server)
[20:27] <ferric84> i'm trying to get my bluetooth mouse working in 8.10 again.  The first time i tried connecting it worked great for a few days, until i turned the mouse off, now ubuntu won't even recognize it.  "hciconfig hci0 pscan" returns "Can't set scan mode on hci0: Network is down (100)" - how can i resolve?
[20:27] <costlyeffects> how do i add it to /etc/fstab/  ?
[20:28] <root_____> costlyeffects edit the file
[20:28] <costlyeffects> what do i PUT in the file
[20:28] <root_____> costlyeffects gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[20:29] <root_____> costlyeffects  ' device  mountpoint  fs_type options 0 0 '
[20:29] <Anon314> I'm trying to install a QuickCam, I found a guide for my device but am getting weird error messages from my "make" command... any ideas what Error 1 and 2 mean?  ( see: http://pastebin.com/m4b1b5492 )
[20:29] <Flannel> costlyeffects: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab will give you a rundown on specifics, the majority of the time you can copy stuff from your others (if you have a non-root partition, use those, just want default as the options, not the remount stuff)
[20:29] <DawnLight> hey, what's the ubuntu installer's default partitioning scheme when there's windows vista installed?
[20:30] <root_____> DawnLight to repartition the entire disk    i believe is the default
[20:31] <vdejager> my server does not support pae, is there any option how to install ubuntu-server?
[20:31] <root_____> DawnLight of course you would lose your M$ os that way.
[20:31] <Flannel> vdejager: install the ubuntu-server kernel: linux-image-server
[20:31] <warty> hjgjg
[20:31] <williammanda_> Slart more info http://pastebin.com/d4a4e3a6e
[20:31] <vdejager> Flannel:does that switch off PAE?
[20:32] <Flannel> vdejager: No, that enables PAE.  You want a non-PAE kernel? install linux-image-generic
[20:32] <abetternick> does linux or ubuntu have a 32 chr filename limit? When I use Itunes (in XP) to add songs to my music library (files are housed on my ubuntu file server), it truncates the filenames at 33 chrs + extension.
[20:32] <jeroen-> this is getting me nuts
[20:32] <Pici> abetternick:
[20:32] <Slart> williammanda_: can you run "file ecs.bin" ?
[20:32] <Pici> abetternick: What filesystem?
[20:32] <etronik_> somebody help me setup VirtualBox Linux guest additions into a linux guest ? TIA - I tell the guest to mount the image file but ls /media/cdrom does nothing... TIA
[20:32] <abetternick> em.. cant remember
[20:32] <abetternick> how can i find out?
[20:32] <vdejager> flannel:that's the one I need then
[20:33] <jeroen-> now I installed hardy instead of intrepid and still I have a yellow/beige unusable screen
[20:33] <jeroen-> I even removed compiz
[20:33] <D3RGPS31> I'm having a hardware issue, Intel 82567LF-2 Gigabit Ethernet Connection with the default e1000e driver, always times out some websites & throttles my bandwidth >.<
[20:33] <Pici> abetternick: 'mount' will tell you
[20:33] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: hello. get upgraded to Jaunty?
[20:33] <Slart> abetternick: it might be samba that uses some kind of limit
[20:33] <williammanda_> Slart...no I can't run it
[20:34] <abetternick> ext3
[20:34] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i had to reformat :/
[20:34] <etronik_> is there a jeos bundled equivalent to wget ??
[20:34] <The_Joe_> By any remote chance is there a way to build C# sourcecode in Linux?
[20:34] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: but i upgraded :D all the colours were inverted, my internet issue wasn't fixed
[20:34] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: oh... dang. well, i have both now. i can boot either one
[20:34] <abetternick> I"m about to change my workstation computer to a Mac instead. Do you think I'll have the same issue? or should I use a mac for the fileserver too
[20:35] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: you know anyone about my current problem?
[20:35] <root_____> The_Joe_ doesn't gcc do that ?
[20:36] <sheep> The_Joe_: maybe mcs, which is part of the mono-mcs package
[20:36] <Slart> The_Joe_: take a look at mono
[20:36] <The_Joe_> Aaah too many messages
[20:36] <Slart> The_Joe_: not sure if that is .net or c#.. haven't messed with any of those
[20:36] <The_Joe_> root_____, I don't think so?
[20:36] <GNUtoo-desktop> hello, what's the switch for fsck.ext3  that displays the progression...i only found something that it puts in a file
[20:37] <Slart> williammanda_: perhaps you should run a fsck on the hard drive
[20:37] <Anon314> I'm getting weird error messages from my "make" command... any ideas what Error 1 and 2 mean?  ( see: http://pastebin.com/m4b1b5492 )
[20:37] <sheep> Anon314: check the errors from gcc
[20:37] <vdejager> flannel:it works, but is there an easy way to take the server kernel configuration and just switch off the pae? I would like to use my server without pre-emtion and the 100ms timer instead of the desktop settings
[20:37] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: all i know is how hard n8tuser worked on trying to figure out what the deal is. and i know it's extremely strange. us other linux users can get to that site. so how would i know?
[20:37] <williammanda_> Slart...thinking disk problem?
[20:38] <rainbowinfinity> hi there,  was wondering if anyone can help me get a digital copy of a movie from disc onto an ipod
[20:38] <Flannel> vdejager: I don't believe so.  There may be though.
[20:38] <hwilde> Anon314, asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory is pretty obvious error message, but this is not really an ubuntu question
[20:38] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: maybe you're hiding it from me >.>
[20:38] <Slart> williammanda_: yes.. since you can see the file with ls but not run it or get info about it
[20:38] <abetternick> Slart I dont think jits samba, because if I copy a file to the ubuntu machine from xp, it doesnt' truncate
[20:38] <fatih_akdeniz> How to GfxBoot  for ubuntu 8.10
[20:38] <abetternick> Pici its ex3
[20:39] <williammanda_> Slart just fsck or e2fsack /devsda1?
[20:39] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: hehe. maybe it's an ancient chinese secret
[20:39] <natbet> is there a repo for openoffice? I can't find one.
[20:39] <Anon314> how could this work on everyone elses ubuntu but not mine then?
[20:39] <abetternick> er ext3
[20:39] <Slart> abetternick: have a look here and see if it's a file system limit then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[20:39] <hwilde> Anon314, yo uare missing that file asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory
[20:39] <usser> rainbowinfinity, check if you arent violating any laws first, use ffmpeg to transcode the video to ipod format take a look here http://www.julien-oster.de/content/ffmpeg-ipod.html
[20:39] <Slart> williammanda_: I think fsck just runs the second command so it wouldn't really matter which one you use
[20:39] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: i read that the current kernel, back when it was RC, could damage my ethernet device
[20:39] <williammanda_> Slart ty
[20:40] <Anon314> i downloaded all the files the guide said to, same one everyone else seems to be using
[20:40] <rainbowinfinity> it's a digital copy that came with my blueray disc, and it said that's what it's for....to put on an ipod
[20:40] <Slart> williammanda_: you're welcome
[20:40] <abetternick> Slart ext3 has 255 chrs according to that
[20:40] <Anon314> http://nepbabu.livejournal.com/15650.html?mode=reply  <-- guide for install logitech quickcam connect e 2500
[20:40] <fsufitch> hey. I can't read DVDs do or read/write CDs or DVDs with my DVD+/-RW drive. I could do these a couple of weeks ago. What happened, and is anyone having this same problem or know a solution?
[20:41] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: yeah, seems i've heard about that. you've never ran an RC version of it have you?
[20:41] <rookieuser> hello, i just killed my automounting of removable drives
[20:41] <usser> rainbowinfinity, oh so use itunes to transfer it, i dont know how to use itunes, but if its one of the latest generation players itunes is pretty much your only option
[20:41] <Slart> abetternick: yes.. that's why I suspected samba was the culprit..
[20:41] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: whatever ships with the 8.10 discs is what i've run, so i don't know
[20:41] <rookieuser> how can i change the settings of automounting removable drives?
[20:41] <rookieuser> it's not in the fstab
[20:41] <abetternick> Slart if I copy a file using explorer in XP, to the ubuntu share, it does not get truncated
[20:41] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: then no, you haven't
[20:42] <fatih_akdeniz> How to GfxBoot  for ubuntu 8.10
[20:42] <Slart> abetternick: yes.. I read that.. then it just leaves us with the conclusion that itunes is broken in some way
[20:42] <Slart> abetternick: I can't really think of anything else
[20:42] <rainbowinfinity> but i use rhythmbox for my ipod...i can't get itunes to work, and it's a disc for pc, but i can't get wine to run the autorun prompt to register to get my digital copy.
[20:42] <abetternick> Slart ok. So then do you suspect if I'm using a mac I wont have the issue, still using Ubuntu for the fileserver?
[20:42] <hwilde> gtkpod
[20:42] <Pici> D3RGPS31: The e1000 bug was fixed during the alphas, it was not present in the release version.
[20:43] <rookieuser> someone on automounting?
[20:43] <hwilde> Pici, e1000 bug?
[20:43] <hwilde> !mount | rookieuser
[20:43] <hwilde> rookieuser, the file you want is /etc/fstab
[20:43] <hwilde> !fstab
[20:43] <Slart> abetternick: I really have no idea... I can't promise that getting a mac will solve the problem
[20:44] <onetinsoldier> fatih_akdeniz: you're going to have to give more details about your question, especially sine i think what your asking is the default as far as i know
[20:44] <Pici> hwilde: Its fixed now, but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5841972#post5841972
[20:44] <rookieuser> hwilde: in fstab are only the mountpoints that are static
[20:44] <abetternick> Slart what if I send a bribe to Steve Jobs?
[20:44] <sneakers2> I just installed ubuntu 8.10 to an empty 320gb hdd from a mounted CD iso in windows vista, restart, selected boot into ubuntu from the windows boot manager, ubuntu booted and finished the installation, and now my raid 0 array with vista on it has failed.... help?
[20:45] <Slart> abetternick: you can send it to me.. the end result would be the same.. except for me =)
[20:45] <Guest56326> 64bit vista?
[20:45] <sneakers2> 32bit
[20:46] <Slart> !who
[20:46] <abetternick> Slart on google i see poeple complaining that its a windows version of itunes issue
[20:46] <abetternick> i better buy a mac ibook
[20:46] <Guest56326> may need to install the raid drivers for ubuntu to work???
[20:46] <abetternick> dam windows is such garbage
[20:46] <Guest56326> lol
[20:47] <D3RGPS31> Intel 82567LF-2 Gigabit Ethernet Connection with the e1000e driver always times out some websites & throttles my bandwidth
[20:47] <sneakers2> Guest56326, no, the gigabyte raid controller is telling me the raid array has failed
[20:47] <Slart> abetternick: well.. that matches what we've seen so I would go with that =)
[20:47] <Guest56326> windows is rubbish but damn it's easy to use!
[20:47] <onetinsoldier> lol
[20:47] <linuxguymarshall> Hey I had a question about torrents
[20:48] <linuxguymarshall> If my client says that it is seeding then that means that others can download from me right?
[20:48] <rainbowinfinity> usser, i use rhythmbox for my ipod...i can't get itunes to work, and it's a disc for pc, i need to register it online, but wine won't load it, so what can i do?
[20:48] <Sooke> Hi,
[20:48] <hno1> sneakers2: Probably Ubuntu didn't realize it's a raid:ed setup..
[20:48] <Slart> linuxguymarshall: well.. yes
[20:48] <abetternick> ya its also easy to screw up everything
[20:48] <Sooke> Has anyone tested StarOffice? How good is compared to OpenOffice?
[20:48] <abetternick> now almost my entire itunes library is ruined by filename truncating
[20:48] <linuxguymarshall> slart:Ok.  It's most likely a software raid thing.
[20:49] <linuxguymarshall> onceuponastack:I want people to download from me
[20:50] <usser> rainbowinfinity, if its one of those disk based registration/activation then your only option is to run it in windows
[20:50] <festy> when will the netbeans ide 6.5 be available via synpatic?
[20:50] <hno1> but MBR writing or repartitioning is the likely ones..
[20:50] <rainbowinfinity> okay, thanks
[20:50] <Pici> !language | abetternick
[20:50] <linuxguymarshall> onceuponastack:Its just an Ubuntu 8.04 disc and Open Office
[20:50] <Retskrad> usser: please check PM
[20:50] <Slart> festy: those questions are very very hard to answer... when there is a package and it's accepted into the repos is perhaps the best answer you can get?
[20:50] <sneakers2> hnol, well right now i'd just like to be able to boot into windows, are you telling me that I've now lost all my data? can't rebuild a raid 0 array can you?
[20:50] <abetternick> ah ok
[20:51] <Slart> festy: is it a new version?
[20:51] <festy> Slart, yes, latest
[20:51] <Slart> festy: is it a security fix? or just a new version?
[20:52] <Pres-Gas> Okay, so what happened to http://rootprompt.org ? I just realized they have not had a post since May, but there is no news saying they are dead. Anyone with info?
[20:52] <Slart> festy: usually they don't update the packages for a ubuntu version unless it's a security fix or something really really really cool.. it might end up in the next version of ubuntu though.. jaunty
[20:53] <muse> is anyone here familiar with synfig running in 8.10?
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> muse: never hears of synfig... what is it?
[20:54] <festy> Slart, seems yes, it will be come with 9.04
[20:54] <sneakers2> hno1, sorry to bug but nobody else is giving answers, and I'm going to be very annoyed if all my data is gone
[20:54] <SSilver2k> can anoyone point me in the right direction to getting dual displays working with an intel gma card
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> muse: never heard of synfig... what is it?
[20:54] <muse> onetinesoldier: it's animation software..
[20:54] <hwilde> where can I find the "wx" python package?
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> muse: oh. cool
[20:54] <rblst> i've just installed an ubuntu 8.04 amd64, and there is no kernel installed, nothing in /boot; how can i fix this?
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> hwilde: why are you have trouble finding it?
[20:55] <muse> onetinsoldier: i have it working - had to compile it because it's broke in 8.10.. but simple things like drawing a rectangle are confusing the crud out of me
[20:55] <hwilde> onetinsoldier, nevermind I wasn't grepping right
[20:55] <Slart> hwilde: have you searched in the repos for wx?
[20:56] <Slart> rblst: ehh.. and you're running it now? without a kernel?
[20:56] <onetinsoldier> hwilde: ok..
[20:56] <rblst> Slart: the live cd, of course
[20:56] <hwilde> i found it now
[20:56] <hwilde> I wasn't lookin in the right place
[20:56] <hno1> sneakers2: Hopefully the data is still there, but it's hard to say how to recover it easily...
[20:56] <onetinsoldier> muse: oh, i see. sorry i can't help with it. i didn't even know what it was, hehe
[20:56] <D3RGPS31> is it possible to section off a part of my harddrive, copy an installation disk to it, boot from that section and begin installing as if i'm using a cd >.>
[20:57] <Slart> rblst: phew.. it was getting spooky there for a minute =).. I would try a reinstall.. don't know if you can just download the kernel and install it manually without the system running
[20:57] <Biovore> D3RGPS31: In theory yes..   but no pre canned way to do that..
[20:57] <zmanning_> anyone know how to sudo save from within vi?
[20:57] <sneakers2> is there a wubi irc channel?
[20:58] <Slart> zmanning_: if you're already running vi as a normal user I think you'll have to restart
[20:58] <Biovore> zmanning_: I think you will just have to save it to your home dir and then copy it with sudo
[20:58] <natbet> zmanning_: :w /home/*username*/
[20:58] <Slart> zmanning_: you could always save the file somewhere else if you've done many changes and don't want to do them again
[20:58] <natbet> zmanning_: :w /home/*username*/*filename* and it will be saved
[20:58] <rblst> Slart: and what would that change if i reinstall it?
[20:59] <logjon> will a fresh install work with my audio and video cards correctly or will i have to jump through the hoops again?
[20:59] <zmanning_> Slart, natbet, Biovore awesome thanks guys.  makes sense.  just wanted to make sure there wasnt an easy way to sudo from within vi.  thanks again!
[20:59] <Slart> rblst: hopefully whatever happened when you installed it the first time won't happen again.. if the same thing happens again I would start checking the cd for defects, perhaps download a new iso and so on
[20:59] <ASULutzy> D3RGPS31: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Installing without actually burning a CD?
[21:00] <ASULutzy> D3RGPS31: Because you can probably use unetbootin for that
[21:00] <rblst> thanks, Slart
[21:00] <D3RGPS31> ASULutzy: yes!
[21:01] <SSilver2k> grr, ubuntu detects my second monitor, but the second it loads to the desktop, second display goes black.  ubuntu even SEEs the second desktop but wont activate it
[21:01] <jetsaredim> what's the easiest way to revert a config file back to what was initially installed?
[21:01] <ASULutzy> D3RGPS31: You can use gparted to create the partition for Ubuntu and then use unetbootin to install it to the partition without burning a CD
[21:01] <hwilde> hi I think I have two duplicate IPs on my network.  is there some way I can see their MACs ?
[21:01] <D3RGPS31> ASULutzy: i love you!
[21:02] <ASULutzy> D3RGPS31: Er, cool, hopefully you love Ubuntu too :P
[21:02] <hno1> hwilde: arping is a good tool for that..
[21:02] <ASULutzy> SSilver2k: What video driver do you use?
[21:02] <homy> Hey, how come I have to say how much space I want reserved for ubuntu changes when installing to a usb thumb drive? How come it doesn't just save changes until the drive is full?
[21:03] <atomekk> Hello
[21:03] <SSilver2k> ASULutzy: its the default itnel one, for an intel gma 950
[21:03] <hno1> SSilver2k: What graphics card?
[21:03] <hwilde> hno1, example?  I tried and only got one response, with option -D
[21:03] <ASULutzy> homy: Because, maybe you only want to use half of the USB stick for Ubuntu and the other half for storing office documents
[21:03] <mike-solidus> jockey will not enable fglrx drivers on my laptop, it says they are available and i say to enable them and it says downloading the driver and then it cuts out and i'm left wiht a disabled driver, also, the system will not shut down from a graphical command, i can issue a sudo reboot or a sudo halt but clicking "shut down" or log off etc does nothing
[21:03] <ASULutzy> SSilver2k: Have you tried installing grandr and fiddling with that? I've had some luck with that
[21:03] <atomekk> Is it normal that i dont have Amarok2 on DCOP list ?
[21:04] <Andrew1> does anyone know how to make network manager automatically login to a wireless connection with a key and not ask for a password? I've been searching all day to find a way but I havn't been able to. I'm not very good at linux.
[21:04] <homy> ASULutzy: but I mean: Can't I just use the usb stick for storing office documents AND for ubuntu? So, the space I don't need for ubuntu (yet) can be used for office documents and if I delete some office documents, I can save more changes in ubuntu.
[21:04] <hno1> hwilde: -D just checks if there is another station using that address.  To check an active address other than your own don't specify any flags, just the address.
[21:05] <ASULutzy> homy: If you hate partitions and like disorganization, sure I guess?
[21:05] <harlemdavvey> hey guys hello
[21:05] <hwilde> hno1, hmm ok...
[21:06] <onetinsoldier> !welcome | harlemdavvey
[21:06] <Andrew1> can someone help me please?
[21:06] <ASULutzy> Andrew1: I'm guessing you could edit the sudoers file to include network manager for all users
[21:06] <harlemdavvey> is anyone interested in blogs? i'm a blogger and i want to sponsorise a blogsite that's music-linux-related
[21:06] <hno1> hwilde: But it it's one of your own addresses then -D is useful, gives the MAC of the other station also using that address if any.
[21:06] <ASULutzy> Andrew1: Er, actually network-config in the sudoers file
[21:06] <IRL> ciao
[21:06] <homy> ASULutzy: gparted only shows me 1 partition on the thumb drive - after installing ubuntu on it and leaving some free space for other stuff.
[21:07] <homy> So this partition-organization-thingy can't be the reason.
[21:07] <IRL> !list
[21:07] <rycole_> hey all. i'm trying to get postfix running using the "Internet site" settings, on Ubuntu. I'm executing the "/etc/init.d/postfix start" command, and it says "OK", but then it acts like Postfix isn't even running, because issuing "reload" says it's not. Does anyone know where the logs for postfix are?
[21:07] <jackass_> Dobry
[21:07] <Andrew1> how do i go to the sudoers file?
[21:07] <harlemdavvey> can someone put my html code on his blog/website??
[21:07] <guntbert> !ot | harlemdavvey
[21:08] <Seveas> rycole_, check /var/log/maillog
[21:08] <guntbert> !pl | jackass_
[21:08] <onetinsoldier> Andrew1: visudo command
[21:08] <rycole_> Seveas: alright, i'll check that out
[21:08] <Andrew1> every time i turn the computer on it asks for a password
[21:08] <Andrew1> ok i'll type that
[21:08] <rycole_> Seveas: eh, it doesn't exist.
[21:08] <jackass_> wiem :]
[21:09] <rycole_> Seveas: a mail.log does though, maybe that's it! :P
[21:09] <Seveas> rycole_, ah oops. redhatism :)
[21:09] <ASULutzy> Andrew1: You can enable auto login via System -> Administration -> Login Window ->Security, as far as making specific apps have root privs, you can get that to work by editing the sudoers file
[21:10] <Seveas> rycole_, /var/log/mail.info mail.err amail.warn nd mail.log
[21:10] <onetinsoldier> Andrew1: you'll want to set the system to automatically login, see the above message from --> ASULutzy
[21:10] <jetsaredim> what's the easiest way to revert a config file back to what was initially installed?
[21:10] <ASULutzy> homy: Er, why would you expect there to be another partition if you didn't make one?
[21:10] <onetinsoldier> jetsaredim: did you manually edit one of them?
[21:10] <Seveas> jetsaredim, find someone who hasn't changed the file and have him send it. Or download the .deb and extract it
[21:10] <adaptr> jetsaredim: dpkg-reconfigure
[21:11] <ASULutzy> jetsaredim: Depends, dpkg-reconfigure, ask someone, purge the install and reinstall, etc
[21:11] <Andrew1> i have the system to automatically login
[21:11] <grayhane> what is a segmentation fault ?
[21:11] <Andrew1> but when the wireless connection connects it asks for a password
[21:12] <Andrew1> to unlock the keyring
[21:12] <onetinsoldier> jetsaredim: what adaptr said might work....   dpkg-reconfigure -phigh <package_name>    ...but not all programs come with default config files. some aren't created until the program is started for the first time, ect
[21:12] <adaptr> grayhane: an application tried to access memory it did not own; the kernel kills the application
[21:12] <unop> Andrew1, so remove the passphrase from the keyring then .
[21:12] <Anon314> cannot move `gspca.ko' to `/lib/modules/2.6.24-20-generic/ubuntu/media/gspcav1/  <-- Where should I put it then?
[21:12] <grayhane> adamb, TU
[21:12] <ASULutzy> Andrew1: Yes, if you don't want that you'll have to let all users run network-config as root without a password, this can be achieved via the sudoers file... I googled a solution and found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435906&page=2 though I'm not sure that's really that ideal.
[21:12] <Andrew1> i don't want to type the password in everytime i log in
[21:13] <unop> ASULutzy, not a good idea that.
[21:13] <homy> ASULutzy: you just said so! you said "homy: If you hate partitions and like disorganization, sure I guess?" As the answer for why free space on the usb thumb drive can't be used for office documents or ubuntu, without allocating a fixed fixed space for ubuntu in "usb-creator"
[21:13] <ASULutzy> unop: Yea, I agree
[21:13] <danand_> !iso | danand_
[21:13] <unop> Andrew1, to unlock a keyrin you need to type a password (if it has one set) - if you find this to be annoying, don't set a password for the keyring.
[21:14] <ASULutzy> homy: Right... And if you tell it to use 100% it'll make 1 big partition for the Ubuntu live stuff as well as to store persistent changes. If you told it to use 50%, then it would only make a partition that took up half the drive, and then you'd be free to make another partition on the pendrive for the remaining 50% and format it to whatever you wanted and use it for whatever you wanted... What's difficult to understand about this?
[21:14] <Andrew1> how do i not set a password for a keyring? you mean not have a password for my mom's account because this is her computer
[21:15] <homy> ASULutzy: that usb-creator didn't make any partitions! It only changed the ONE existing partition.
[21:15] <ASULutzy> homy: lol right
[21:15] <homy> AND: I can copy my own stuff in the ONE partition where ubuntu is installed
[21:15] <Andrew1> so if i don't have a password for her account then the network manager program won't want to unlock the keyring?
[21:15] <homy> ASULutzy: yes, really.
[21:16] <unop> Andrew1, the password for the gnome-keyring is different to that of the system account -- to reset the password for the keyring - use gnome-keyring-preferences
[21:16] <eleos2> i wanto to go to a remote desktop of my friend what can i do?
[21:16] <Andrew1> what do you mean use?
[21:17] <ASULutzy> eleos2: Does your friend use Windows or Linux or?
[21:17] <unop> !who | Andrew1
[21:17] <gillemon> !tab
[21:17] <harlemdavvey> do we have a particular room of the ubuntu chat related to linux mp3 compatible players??
[21:17] <harlemdavvey> ?
[21:17] <unop> Andrew1,  press ALT+F2  and then type in  gnome-keyring-preferences
[21:17] <onetinsoldier> is there a way i can tell whether or not iptables is being used right now, at this moment?
[21:17] <eleos2> linux
[21:17] <Andrew1> sorry i've been using windows all my life until now it's difficult for me
[21:18] <eleos2> asulutzy
[21:18] <Flannel> harlemdavvey: #ubuntu-offtopic would be the best candidate
[21:18] <Slart> onetinsoldier: sudo iptables -L
[21:18] <ASULutzy> harlemdavvey: I think you could ask that here, that ought to be support related? But there's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> Slart: hey, thanks!
[21:18] <Slart> onetinsoldier: or lower case L.. not sure
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> k
[21:18] <Slart> onetinsoldier: hey =)
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> thx
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[21:18] <harlemdavvey> ok ASULutzy
[21:18] <harlemdavvey> :)
[21:19] <eseven73> its uppercase L
[21:19] <Slart> onetinsoldier: if it only shows the three chains with no rules and "policy ACCEPT" it won't do anything
[21:19] <simpleos> is the ubuntu ppc kernel compiled with config_seccomp?
[21:19] <Slart> onetinsoldier: (unless there are weird things going on)
[21:20] <eleos2> i wanto to go to a remote desktop of my friend what can i do?
[21:20] <simpleos> and can i get it as a module?
[21:20] <dave_> Hello, I was hoping somebody could help me with my problem. When attempting to install updates on ubuntu intrepid ibex, I get the error located at this location: http://pastebin.com/m7051edba  I have tried running the dpkg --configure -a command in terminal to fix the problem but it does not work. please help me.
[21:20] <Slart> eleos2: what is your friend using?
[21:20] <Slart> eleos2: windows? linux?
[21:20] <eleos2> start linux
[21:21] <jeroen-> bazhang: now I installed Kubuntu Hardy instead Ubuntu Hardy and Intrepid and now all is fine!
[21:21] <eleos2> ubuntu
[21:21] <Slart> dave_: hmm.. there was a fix for that I think.. we even had a factoid for it
[21:21] <jeroen-> how is this possible!
[21:21] <simpleos> !cpushare
[21:21] <jeroen-> same backed isn't?
[21:21] <Slart> !vnc | eleos2
[21:21] <dave_> Slart: Great, is there  any way you can try to remember? Your efforts would be tremendously appreciated.
[21:21] <ASULutzy> eleos2: Your friend would have to run a VNC server in order for you to be able to use a remote desktop type feature. If all you need is to be able to remotely connect, then your friend could just install an ssh server, and you could ssh to it
[21:22] <Slart> dave_: mm.. I'm trying.. hang on.. let me torture ubottu a little in private =)
[21:22] <ASULutzy> !freeNX
[21:22] <dave_> Thanks so much, I am very greatful for your generous help and assistance for my problem.
[21:22] <eleos2> asulutzy is that difficult?
[21:22] <simpleos> can someone help? or is there another room i should look at?
[21:22] <Andrew1> me too i need help
[21:22] <neosimago> i'm having trouble booting using uuid to point to my root drive. other than usiing /dev/sda1 I want to know why it is not working. I have checked the uuids to match.
[21:22] <Slart> !aptfix | dave_, try this
[21:23] <Andrew1> i've been trying to fix this all day
[21:23] <dave_> Slart: Thanks, I will.
[21:23] <onetinsoldier> Slart: i have firestarter installed. i just wanted to know for sure if the firewall comes up every time i boot up. i thought it did but wasn't certain, as there is a messge about the service when first booting up..  Firestarter:  Failed.   i looked and i think there's already a bug report on that
[21:23] <needhelp> what is the command to restore the grub boot from a live cd ?
[21:24] <neosimago> here's the kernel		/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=1d161e89-0adb-4092-adbf-e65508f2dcd1 ro quiet splash  line.
[21:24] <ASULutzy> !patience
[21:24] <Slart> onetinsoldier: well.. firestarter creates lots of rules so you'd get something like 20 lines from that command if it was doing it's thing
[21:24] <onetinsoldier> Slart: roger... and i did
[21:24] <Slart> onetinsoldier:s/it's/its
[21:25] <onetinsoldier> it's is correct
[21:25] <aleksandar> how do i enable scroll lock button? i press it and nothing happens???
[21:25] <adaptr> onetinsoldier: no it's not
[21:25] <Andrew1> can anyone give me a good link that would make it so i don't have to unlock the keyring? thanks to anyone that replies
[21:25] <isle86> I have pb to set up virtual hosts with apache. I setted up two files in apache2/sites-available, but both point to the same web sites ;-(
[21:25] <Slart> onetinsoldier: I'm not going to argue about english grammar.. I'll probably just fail =)
[21:25] <dave_> Slart: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[21:25] <dave_> Aborted
[21:25] <onetinsoldier> no? if it was doing it's thing    ...is incorrect?
[21:26] <neosimago> i get dropped to the sh terminal, and if i exit/quit, it continues to boot to ubuntu. --strange
[21:26] <ASULutzy> needhelp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[21:26] <onetinsoldier> Slart: lol... np. i won't either, but i think adaptr will!  haha
[21:26] <Slart> onetinsoldier: it's = it is.. I was going for possessive .. its.. as in its car or whatever
[21:26] <adaptr> onetinsoldier: yes. a possessive is never apostrophied
[21:26] <Slart> dave_: hmm.. installed something recently?
[21:27] <onetinsoldier> ok.... roger guys
[21:27] <onetinsoldier> adaptr: i see what you're saying. you're right, i was incorrect
[21:28] <Slart> dave_: that error message makes me suspect something didn't install correctly
[21:28] <onetinsoldier> ok, back to business. Richard M. Stallman here. who needs help? lol
[21:28] <ASULutzy> Andrew1: You can view the keyring via System -> Administration -> Authorizations
[21:28] <Retskrad> yo man
[21:29] <dave_> Slart: No, it didn't. See, the computer crashed while installing updates and I had to do a hard reboot. Then the problems began as I tried attempting to update my system again.
[21:29] <homy> Andrew1: what is your problem?
[21:29] <Slart> dave_: hmm.. what happens if you try running "sudo apt-get install -f" ?
[21:29] <Slart> dave_: you get the same error message?
[21:30] <dave_> Slart: I will try to see what happens then, standby please
[21:30] <isle86> pb to set up two virtual hosts with apache.
[21:30] <dave_> Slart: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[21:30] <Guest44755> Hi guys! I want to learn SSH, which is the best way?...do I need to buy a book?
[21:30] <ASULutzy> !ssh
[21:31] <onetinsoldier> dave_: and what do you get if you do that command?
[21:31] <Slart> dave_: ok. so run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", I can't understand why they never put the sudo there
[21:31] <hwilde> Slart, bc "they" use root :/
[21:31] <dave_> Slart: No, I already tried that and got an error at the very end
[21:31] <ASULutzy> !pm | Andrew1
[21:31] <Slart> hwilde: hehe.. the bad people =).. still I think they could have patched it for the ubuntu repos
[21:31] <onetinsoldier> Slart: it's only Ubuntu 8.10 that has a morbid fascination with 'sudo', hehe
[21:31] <ASULutzy> dave_: What is the error?
[21:31] <Slart> dave_: can you pastebin the output?
[21:32] <hwilde> Guest44755, I like the Linux in a Nutshell series from O'Reilly books.  all of their *in a nutshell books are pretty good
[21:32] <dave__> I just performed an upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10.  My /home directory appears to not be mounting, but is present in /etc/fstab.  It has a UUID= in the fstab, which I've never seen before.  Anyone know how to fix?
[21:32] <dave_> Slart: I guess, but it takes a long time
[21:32] <dave__> Gah, name conflict--let me change :)
[21:32] <hwilde> Slart, right and then we'll rewrite all the unix man pages that have bene around for 20 yrs :)
[21:32] <Lothsahn> I just performed an upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10.  My /home directory appears to not be mounting, but is present in /etc/fstab.  It has a UUID= in the fstab, which I've never seen before.  Anyone know how to fix?
[21:32] <dave_> Slart: IT just says something had an error and aborted
[21:32] <Slart> hwilde: no, didn't mean that.. just that error message from apt
[21:32] <hwilde> Slart, what I want to know is, if you run a command that requires sudo, and the system knows it requires sudo, why doesn't it just run the command with sudo, and prompt you for the pw?
[21:32] <onetinsoldier> dave_: think i know hwo to cure this problem right now
[21:32] <Guest44755> hwilde: thank you!
[21:33] <stefg> !uuid | Lothsahn
[21:33] <Slart> hwilde: that sounds like how vista does it.. sure it would be nice
[21:33] <dave_> Slart: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[21:33] <onetinsoldier> dave_: do you have a buch of files in... /var/lib/dpkg/updates?
[21:33] <dave_> Aborted
[21:33] <Slart> hwilde: I can't really see any obvious security problems with it
[21:33] <Slart> !pastebin | dave_
[21:33] <hwilde> Slart, it would still make it interactive and require the pw and essentially the same security
[21:33] <Andrew1> i was asking questions but then you said i shouldn't type too much because it will confuse peole
[21:33] <hwilde> Andrew1, ask your question on one line
[21:34] <Slart> dave_: that was it? just one error message?
[21:34] <dave_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/95405/
[21:34] <Andrew1> ok
[21:34] <sneakers2> can anybody offer any more information on this problem please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024950
[21:34] <rblst> Slart: i reinstalled the system, but nothing changed
[21:34] <onetinsoldier> dave_: pastebin the output of -->  ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/updates
[21:35] <Slart> dave_: wow.. that error message actually got lots of hits from google.. perhaps this is a bug
[21:35] <Andrew1> i need to have it so when my computer turns on, my wireless connection connects(which it does) and does not ask me to unlock the keyring.
[21:35] <Slart> rblst: have you checked the cd for errors? there is an option to do that when it boots up
[21:36] <homy> Andrew1: Do you have autologin enabled?
[21:36] <Slart> dave_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/262451
[21:36] <dave_> Slart: I would very much like to know what is wrong. Do you have any hypothesese?
[21:36] <Andrew1> yes i do
[21:36] <dave_> Slart: I will try that
[21:36] <Slart> dave_: check that page.. see if there is a solution listed
[21:36] <onetinsoldier> dave_: pastebin the output of -->  ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/updates   ....please
[21:36] <Lothsahn> Lothsahn: Anyone know why I can't mount /home?  When I mount it says /dev/hdb2 already mounted, but when I try to umount /dev/hdb2 or /home, it says it's not mounted...
[21:37] <homy> Andrew1: ok. If you had autologin disabled, the keyring would have been unlocked automatically. Let me look for a solution for your problem, a moment please.
[21:37] <onetinsoldier> dave_: or is that directory empty?
[21:37] <Andrew1> ok thanks a lot
[21:37] <dave_> It's not empty
[21:38] <andres_> ulmo
[21:38] <onetinsoldier> dave_: oh? then that may be your problem
[21:38] <dave_> wait
[21:38] <dave_> one second
[21:38] <dave_> it says total 8
[21:38] <dave_> want me to paste the output? it's just two lines
[21:39] <onetinsoldier> dave_: ok, want to try the cure?
[21:39] <dave_> Sure I'm up for anything
[21:39] <dave_> Thanks for all your help by the way
[21:39] <dave_> I appreciate it greatly
[21:39] <dave_> :D
[21:39] <homy> Andrew1: does the "unlock keyring" dialog that is displayed show a check box for "always unlock when computer is started" or similar? Or does the dialog only have a field to enter the password and ok/cancel buttons?
[21:40] <sevenseeker> OT: does Dell own Alienware or do they just have a business partnership?
[21:40] <Flannel> sevenseeker: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:40] <Andrew1> no it doesn't
[21:40] <rotzie> hi
[21:40] <onetinsoldier> dave_: ok, if you're afraid to delete, then move all those file somewhere else. otherwise, just delete them --> rm -v /var/lib/dpkg/updates*
[21:40] <rotzie> hi, i run into severe trouble when installing a kubuntu distribution - i want to install it on an external raid 1- hdd that is connected via a pcmcia sata card
[21:40] <MenZa> !offtopic | sevenseeker
[21:40] <Andrew1> it only has the password and ok cancel buttons
[21:40] <sevenseeker> thanks, I got it
[21:41] <homy> Andrew1: hm.
[21:41] <rotzie> boot and grub are supposed to be installed to an usb stick (as bios only allows for boot from usb)
[21:41] <onetinsoldier> dave_: then   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -u upgrade
[21:41] <sneakers2> can anybody offer any more information on this problem please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024950
[21:41] <rotzie> i get many i/o exceptions
[21:41] <Andrew1> i could restart and double check but i'm 90% sure
[21:41] <dave_> rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/dpkg/updates': Is a directory
[21:41] <homy> Andre1: no.
[21:42] <Andrew1> ok
[21:42] <sneakers2> Andrew1, you're correct that there's no remember button, I'm in the same situation (if you're using 8.10)
[21:42] <onetinsoldier> dave_: my bad.. i had a typo. sorry.  --> rm -v /var/lib/dpkg/updates/*
[21:42] <sneakers2> I also have autologin enabled
[21:42] <Andrew1> ya i just installed this on my moms old computer about a month ago
[21:45] <homy> Andrew1: well, I found this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/140755, but its with this check box. hm
[21:47] <homy> Andrew1: but anyway that bug is fixed.
[21:47] <worldcitizen> uhhh
[21:47] <regeya> yay netsplit
[21:47] <rathel> I'm connecting to my Ubuntu box through Windows using SSH/Cygwin when I screen into my finch buddy list I see a whole bunch of messed up characters, How do I fix this? I remember there's a way something like lang=en_US,UTF-8 or something but that doesn't work.
[21:47]  * regeya grumbles
[21:47] <worldcitizen> wow
[21:48] <w3wsrmn> haha
[21:48] <jimius> nice split
[21:48] <Mud> Oops I dit it again!
[21:48] <homy> !netsplit
[21:48] <homy> !netsplit
[21:48] <Mud> sorry! :+
[21:48] <homy> !!!#
[21:48] <homy> !netsplit
[21:48] <rathel> I'm connecting to my Ubuntu box through Windows using SSH/Cygwin when I screen into my finch buddy list I see a whole bunch of messed up characters, How do I fix this? I remember there's a way something like lang=en_US,UTF-8 or something but that doesn't work.
[21:48] <homy> Andrew1, you still there?
[21:49] <distgre1> Hi everyone.. For some reason my ubuntu machine crashes after a week, 3,4 days, it dies... cant login using ssh, and doesnt respond to pings... ive reinstalled it a few times and same deal.. .. i did memtest for around 2 days and its fine.. no errors.. how can i debug this?
[21:49] <w3wsrmn> hay guise
[21:50] <distgre1>  Hi everyone.. For some reason my ubuntu machine crashes after a week, 3,4 days, it dies... cant login using ssh, and doesnt respond to pings... ive reinstalled it a few times and same deal.. .. i did memtest for around 2 days and its fine.. no errors.. how can i debug this?
[21:50] <jimius> man, 600 joins at once, my client froze
[21:50] <distgre1> just to make sure post split sees it :)
[21:50] <hwilde> Pici, can i have that e1000 link again plz
[21:50] <DamnSL> can you repeat please Flannel ?
[21:50] <Flannel> sneakers2: Did you take the CD out when you rebooted?  What did you do after it rebooted?
[21:50] <gavi> folks, which driver has better visual performance for a nvidia gforce4 mx440? the restricted driver or the nvidia driver
[21:50] <onetinsoldier> dave_: thanks for letting me know i'm doing a good job :)
[21:50] <Flannel> DamnSL: right click, go to properties, set it as executable, or use chmod from a terminal (chmod +x file)
[21:50] <onetinsoldier> dave_: :-)   you're very welcome.
[21:50] <Slart> rblst: well.. I can't really think of any reason for the installer to skip the kernels..
[21:50] <sneakers2> Flannel, i didn't have a cd inserted, the instal cd was mounted
[21:50] <DamnSL> thanks
[21:50] <whabo> does firefox 2 and firefox 3 have the same dependencies??? i am asking this because i installed exaile music player . and it installed firefox 2 as a dependancy and i cant get rid of it unless i uninstall exaile anyone? help?
[21:50] <dave_> ASULutzy: But it IS a dual boot
[21:50] <sneakers2> Flannel, when it rebooted i waited for it to boot back up again..
[21:50] <Flannel> sneakers2: Mounted within windows?  So there was no physical CD involved at all?
[21:50] <DrRabbit> FUCKING AWESOME.
[21:50] <rblst> Slart: the simlinks in / are also created, but they point to no existing file
[21:50] <regeya> ...
[21:50] <hwilde> Pici, can i have that e1000 link again plz
[21:50] <DrRabbit> I love netsplits, guise
[21:50] <sneakers2> Flannel, correct
[21:50] <Andrew1> me too i thought it was my computer not being good
[21:50] <Flannel> DrRabbit: Please watch your language
[21:50] <stefg> sneakers2: but the bootloader still needs to be installed on the first drive (to enable dual booting) . This might have overwritten some superblock/HPA so the fake-raid controller doesn't find the arry any more
[21:50] <Flannel> stefg: Wubi doesn't touch the bootloader
[21:50] <DrRabbit> Flannel: sorry
[21:51] <Flannel> sneakers2: Wubi wont touch your bootloader at all, it simply adds an entry into the boot.ini for windows
[21:51] <dave_> onetinsoldier: Well, credit where credit is due, that's my motto. I believe that you have been a substantial help to the average ubuntu user and have many times assisted me with my own problems. So thanks a lot, keep up the teriffic work.
[21:51] <dave_> :)
[21:51] <onetinsoldier> :)
[21:51] <stefg> Flannel: ahh... never used it (no windows here). so how does it set up dual booting ?
[21:51] <rathel> I'm connecting to my Ubuntu box through Windows using SSH/Cygwin when I screen into my finch buddy list I see a whole bunch of messed up characters, How do I fix this? I remember there's a way something like lang=en_US,UTF-8 or something but that doesn't work.
[21:51] <Alatiel> x
[21:51] <DrRabbit> okay, thanks guise
[21:51] <Andrew1> when auto login is enabled is there a way that a wireless connection will not ask to unlock the keyring?
[21:51] <rblst> Slart: an interesting thing: when i restarted the installer, the partitioning program said that 64M is used on /boot, although there is nothing in that directory
[21:52] <Flannel> stefg: It uses boot.ini (windows boot menu thing) to bootstrap... something else on the disk.  wubi installs exist as a file in the windows filesystem (well, as two files, I believe)
[21:52] <onetinsoldier> rblst: it's reserved space
[21:52] <Slart> rblst: you've done a fsck on that partition?
[21:52] <DamnSL> Flannel : I +x it but I have the same problem :/
[21:52] <racarter> where's a good place to put shared files?
[21:52] <sneakers2> Flannel, so how can it have written to boot.ini if it didn't realise i have a raid array? :S
[21:52] <DamnSL> I cant execute it
[21:52] <stefg> Flannel: ok... so it uses ntldr, not brub
[21:52] <racarter> files that can be accessed by different users
[21:52] <stefg> *grub
[21:52] <racarter> i was thinking /usr/share/local ?
[21:52] <DamnSL> There is no application installed for this file type
[21:53] <Flannel> sneakers2: because boot.ini is just a file, and it can write to it just like you write to any file in windows
[21:53] <paper8> enzotib: carino lo split con 1300 presone :P
[21:53] <rblst> it's a brand new disk, i bought it this afternoon, some hours ago
[21:53] <yates> is there a way to upgrade from 8.04 lts to http://ubuntustudio.org/?
[21:53] <Flannel> DamnSL: Whats the filename?
[21:53] <Slart> racarter: for many users on the same computer?
[21:53] <yates> with aptitude, that is?
[21:53] <racarter> Slart, yes
[21:53] <rblst> Slart, it's a brand new disk, i bought it this afternoon, some hours ago
[21:53] <DamnSL> Flannel : the file name is:  AutoScan-Network-Linux-1.40.bin
[21:53] <enzotib> paper8, bellissimo, trenta rotellini di mouse per scrollarlo tutto
[21:53] <onetinsoldier> rblst: i think you can change the percentage of the reserved space(if you're feeling ripped off) with the -m option of the 'tune2fs' command(man tune2fs)
[21:53] <sneakers2> flannel, but if it wrote to boot.ini before i restarted it would have used the windows raid driver and worked fine, i fail to see hwo that killed my raid array
[21:53] <Flannel> yates: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UpgradingFromHardy
[21:53] <homy> Andre1: ok, I found a solution
[21:53] <Slart> racarter: well..I think it's really up to you.. you could create a folder in /home if you want.. or somewhere else
[21:53] <whabo> does firefox 2 and firefox 3 have the same dependencies??? i am asking this because i installed exaile music player . and it installed firefox 2 as a dependancy and i cant get rid of it unless i uninstall exaile anyone? help?
[21:53] <Andrew1> ok awesome
[21:53] <Slart> racarter: I don't think it will break anything
[21:54] <Flannel> sneakers2: I don't see any reason why it would have touched your RAID array, no.
[21:54] <homy> Andrew1: but: it involves setting the keyring password to blank
[21:54] <racarter> just trying to keep with any conventions...
[21:54] <racarter> where does ubuntu store wallpaper images/
[21:54] <racarter> ?
[21:54] <homy> Andrew1: that means, your saved passwords (like wlan) will be saved unencrypted
[21:54] <Andrew1> ok will that mean that there will be no password for the account?
[21:54] <Slart> rblst: I didn't mean for the hard drive.. I meant if the file system had been messed up in the install process.. or you've formatted it during the install?
[21:54] <rblst> Slart, yes i did format it
[21:54] <homy> Andrew1: you have to be aware that that is a security issue.
[21:55] <Flannel> DamnSL: alright, open up a terminal, navigate to the folder it's in.  then do this: chmod a+x AutoScan-Network-Linux-1.40.bin (you can use tab complete for the name) and then type this: ./AutoScan-Network-Linux-1.40.bin (you can use tab complete again)
[21:55] <rathel> I'm connecting to my Ubuntu box through Windows using SSH/Cygwin when I screen into my finch buddy list I see a whole bunch of messed up characters, How do I fix this? I remember there's a way something like 'lang=en_US,UTF-8' or something but that doesn't work.
[21:55] <racarter> ls -AlhXF
[21:55] <Andrew1> i don't think that's a problem as long as no one can use our internet signal without a key
[21:55] <stefg> sneakers2: before you didn't have a look at your partition tables (and possible boot blocks for the fake raid controller) everything is just speculation. try testdisk or some other forensic tool to first gain an idea how the disks/part tables look now
[21:55] <Andrew1> what could happen ?
[21:55] <rblst> Slart, but i think i just fooled you and myself...
[21:56] <sandro_> hy
[21:56] <homy> Andrew1: yes, but exactly that wlan key won't be stored encrypted ... otherwise you would need some sort of password to unlock it.
[21:56] <onetinsoldier> rblst: did you see my messages? about tune2fs and the -m option for it?
[21:56] <peepsalot> i can't use svn with https protocol.  gives me "svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'https://...'"
[21:56] <peepsalot> anyone know how to fix this?
[21:56] <sneakers2> Flannel, that's a bootable cd? hopefully it
[21:56] <Andrew1> so..people still need a key ?
[21:56] <sneakers2> Flannel, that's a bootable cd? hopefully it's not large, slow internet here
[21:56] <Flannel> sneakers2: What's a bootable CD?
[21:56] <Andrew1> to use the signal from the router?
[21:56] <Slart> rblst: ok =).. what was it?
[21:56] <sandro_> someone of you knows how to install nikon view in linux to control d70 digital camera?
[21:56] <sneakers2> Flannel, a live cd? something i can boot from - i have no dos / shell
[21:57] <homy> Andrew1: ok, I talked enough, lets get to the solution. Open Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[21:57] <Flannel> sneakers2: Yeah. A liveCD is a bootable CD.  But you may be meaning to talk to stefg
[21:57] <Andrew1> ok
[21:57] <Andrew1> i did that
[21:57] <rblst> Slart: because the files are there, i did not mount the boot partition; still, grub does not find the files
[21:57] <homy> Andrew1: select Edit->Preferences
[21:57] <sneakers2> Flannel, appologies
[21:57] <Andrew1> ok
[21:57] <DamnSL> ok it works Flannel  thanks
[21:57] <DamnSL> :)
[21:57] <homy> Andrew1: click on the keyring "login" and choose the button "change Unlcok Password"
[21:58] <Slart> rblst: ahhh... then we need to find out why grub doesn't find it.. at least I like this problem better =)
[21:58] <sneakers2> stefg, do you recommend that i use the tool testdisk or something else?
[21:58] <stefg> sneakers2: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page or http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ are quite powerful
[21:58] <homy> Andrew1:  ok?
[21:58] <jughead> I'm running ubuntu hardy and I have a comp with ubuntu server and I just added a hard drive.  How can I figure out what it is called and partition it?
[21:58] <rblst> Slart: sorry for that, and thanks for coming with me this far with my folly...
[21:58] <Andrew1> ok
[21:59] <homy> Andrew1: now, enter your password in the "old password" field and click change, without entering a new password.
[21:59] <homy> Andrew1: probably a warning will occur, that this is insecure.
[21:59] <Slart> rblst: no worries, happy to do it
[21:59] <sneakers2> Flannel, so you dont know what could have caused the raid array to fail? any guesses?
[21:59] <onetinsoldier> jughead: probably  fdisk -l  and perhaps   blkid
[21:59] <Andrew1> ok that happenned
[21:59] <Flannel> sneakers2: No idea
[21:59] <Andrew1> is that it?
[21:59] <homy> Andrew1: yeah, so just click "ok" in that warning.
[21:59] <forces> hi!
[22:00] <onetinsoldier> !hi | forces
[22:00] <homy> Andrew1: ok, you're all set now. no passwords anymore
[22:00] <forces> :O
[22:00] <forces> :P
[22:00] <stefg> sneakers2: the general startegy is: first find out waht actually happened... DON'T DO ANYTHING before you know what you're doing... then check if recovery is possible or scrap as much data from the disks as possible and reinstall
[22:00] <forces> thanks
[22:00] <forces> I need some help
[22:00] <jughead> I tried fdisk -l and I didn't get anything back onetinsoldier do I need to run this with sudo?
[22:00] <homy> !ask | forces