[16:44] <switchgirl> i keep getting a msn error not able to send messages in pidgin or empathy
[16:44] <Tartaros> dbpatankar: I'd say what albert needs is compile the source, I doubt there's an executable in a source tarball :)
[16:44] <Godfather_> nope, i didnt solve
[16:44] <MrPiracy> Schalla: then install it
[16:44] <rufensis> Does anyone know is there an irc channel for questions related to Open Office?
[16:44] <Yufei> test
[16:44] <Kackle> My problem... When I tried to install xubuntu I got a message during the cdrom checking thing I got a message "The *loooong file* file failed the md5 checksum verification" Do i have to download the iso and burn it again?
[16:44] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: you want a list of file in /etc/apt/sources ?
[16:44] <Guest76973> !compiz
[16:44] <grawity> Yufei: Test passed
[16:44] <Schalla> MrPiracy: The other command say's "Error: unable to oppen display"
[16:44] <dbpatankar> Tartaros : Just see the pastebin offered by him
[16:44] <scunizi> shazzr: try .. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start .. or possibly just .. gdm start .. or startx
[16:44] <Guest76973> have to solve my username!!!!!
[16:44] <MrPiracy> Schalla: then you prolly dont have the drivers properly installed
[16:44] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: there is a directory called /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   it may be empty but I need to make sure
[16:44] <Guest76973> quiting
[16:45] <llutz> rufensis: #OpenOffice.org
[16:45] <scunizi> Guest76973: type /nick <your Nick of Choice>
[16:45] <dbpatankar> Tartaros : It has the binary file but its not executable,
[16:45] <Tartaros> dbpatankar: I did. It's still a source tarball, he's just clueless.
[16:45] <Schalla> MrPiracy: "sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx" could fix it?
[16:45] <rufensis> llutz: thanks
[16:45] <JonathanEllis> penguin42: Log is here http://pastebin.com/f4ca33817
[16:45] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: yes, it's empty
[16:45] <albert__> dbpatankar, Didn't work :( Maybe I'll keep searching
[16:45] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: MSN sucks
[16:45] <palman> it seems I have a common question....I have 3 hard drives, and I want to easily access the other 2 for read/write.  How do I do this?
[16:45] <kris__> Hi. How do I install a 2.6.28 kernel on karmic, rather than the stock default 2.6.31? 31 had some regression in it that I'm trying to resolve.
[16:46] <palman> thanks in advance!
[16:46] <dbpatankar> Tartaros : then how the configure script is missing?
[16:46] <jrib> !kernel > kris__
[16:46] <MrPiracy> Schalla: i guess so ... what are you trying to install? geforce?
[16:46] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: ok. I think there was an issue with the upgrade once and now the sources.list is a bit odd. Gimme a sec
[16:46] <albert__> dbpatankar: Tartaros: Thank you both for helping
[16:46] <Tartaros> dbpatankar: then again, maybe it's not source, but then I have no idea what it is :)
[16:46] <jrib> kris__: you should be able to use those directions (juts pull the right kernel version)
[16:46] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: ok
[16:46] <kris__> jrib: Thank you.
[16:46] <penguin42> JonathanEllis: My reading of that is I think it's trying to use 1680x1050 - can you just show me your config file again?
[16:47] <JonathanEllis> penguin42: It definitely looks wider than 1280. I made a new image with GIMP sized 1280 by 1024. Zoomed it to 100% and it doesnt fill the full screen width
[16:47] <switchgirl> sebsebseb: its the only way of talking to my partner
[16:47] <Schalla> @MrPiracy: Thats a good question... Its a freakin old graphic card.... But it worked without download driver, so with the basic drivers
[16:47] <albert__> dbpatankar: Thank you for the help
[16:47] <Schalla> I must go fast down to the fritzbox, wlan dont work without GUI (Dont ask me why..)
[16:47] <aigon> what program i have to download to unpack rar file?
[16:47] <dbpatankar> albert__ : you are welcome
[16:47] <penguin42> aigon: unrar
[16:47] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: replace your list with this one http://pastebin.org/51891   and try again
[16:48] <Tartaros> albert__: where from did you download the file anyway? was it the "sources" downlad on the site you posted link to?
[16:48] <JonathanEllis> penguin42: Xorg.conf is here http://pastebin.com/f6ecbd7d1
[16:48] <shazzr> scunizi: The result of etc/init.d....:  http://pastebin.com/m3348a239 and the result of startx: http://pastebin.com/m423327ee
[16:48] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: Sometimes  people get issues with the MSN network on Desktop Linux, you can try  AMSN and Kmess as well to see if you can connect on those or not.
[16:48] <aigon> thanks
[16:48] <penguin42> JonathanEllis: OK, you see the "1280x1024@60" - remove the @60
[16:48] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: wait ... i have another file here /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade .... want to see its contents too?
[16:48] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: remember to do a update & upgrade first
[16:48] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: yeah, but you can probably trash it
[16:49] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: Only way to chat to them hmm, there are other IM networks as well of course.
[16:49] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: did you install ia32?
[16:49] <saurabh> i have a problem while installing ns2 on kubuntu 9.10...
[16:49] <albert__> Tartaros, no I went to the download section. It was for 9.04 but I thought it may have worked with 9.10
[16:49] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: yes, i think i did
[16:49] <sebsebseb> saurabh: What's ns2?
[16:49] <penguin42> JonathanEllis: If you look in the xorg.log there is a 'no mode of this name' for that - but it does say it could use "1280x1024"
[16:49] <Kackle> My problem... I tried installing xubuntu but it failed... I runned the cdrom checking thing I got a message "The *loooong file* file failed the md5 checksum verification" Do i have to download the iso and burn it again?
[16:49] <sebsebseb> Netscape 2?
[16:49] <JonathanEllis1> penguin42: OK. Machine is rebooting now
[16:49] <switchgirl> i can connect sebsebseb "(16:42:11) Message could not be sent because a connection error occurred:" cant talk though
[16:50] <saurabh> sebsebseb: network simulator
[16:50] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: here is /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade http://pastebin.org/51893
[16:50] <scunizi> shazzr: did you try gdm start or start gdm?
[16:50] <[MOB]Trip> hey other day i was tryin watch a divx movie right...now apparently the linux firefox got its own dvix player right..vid loaded cool...hit play...it played right...but when i hit pause to allow the movie to load....it stopped..instead of pause...so....how2can fix?
[16:50] <saurabh> error: tk8.4.18 make failed in installing ns2
[16:50] <Tartaros> albert__: yeah but on the site you posted, I only saw "source" or "ubuntu 64bit" - so was it this you downloaded? the 64bit package?
[16:50] <albert__> Kackle: same thing happened to me and I had to burn another disk at a the slowest speed
[16:51] <JonathanEllis1> Kackle: You probably dont need to download it again. One moment while I find the md5 instructions for you
[16:51] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: run this     sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade{,.old}
[16:51] <JonathanEllis1> !md5sum
[16:51] <albert__> Ubuntu 64 bit
[16:51] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: Jabber :)  all people need for that is for example a @gmail.com or @googlemail.com email address  and there's a built in chat, but for Windows I would recommend  Google Talk for that.  Jabber is also open source :)
[16:51] <shazzr> scunizi: yes. still no luck. The weird thing is that X seemes to be running, but on the screen there's nothing appearing.
[16:51] <albert__> Tartaros: Ubuntu 64 bit, but I thought I seen something about running on 32 bit
[16:52] <scunizi> shazzr: do you have ati graphics?
[16:52] <shazzr> no. it's a matrox card.
[16:52] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: Pidgin isn't that great with MSN really, and  Empathy is pretty new so  probably not that great with it at the moment either.  So it's worth trying programs such as AMSN and Kmess.
[16:53] <hackdark>  /join #ubuntu-uy
[16:53] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: now how do i stop this screen to restart updating??
[16:53] <shazzr> scunizi: No, it's a Matrox Mystique one.
[16:53] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: after that, run this       << sudo apt-get install --fix-broken && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade >>
[16:53] <scunizi> shazzr: old card?  matrox mellinium? version? etc..
[16:53] <albert__> Tartaros: should I have downloaded source code?
[16:53] <JonathanEllis1> penguin42: Whoopee! Now I have both screens at 1280x1024 after booting. Looks like it needed telling how much memory it had. Now the HP is running at 75HZ which is faster than necessary. How would I switch it to 60Hz to save high frequency losses in the monitor cable. I dont need that fast a refresh as its an LCD not a CRT
[16:53] <[MOB]Trip> RAWR
[16:53] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: what screen?
[16:53] <[MOB]Trip> rage quit
[16:53] <MrPiracy> Bodsda:  update manager
[16:53] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: bring the terminal up and press   ctrl+c
[16:53] <dan_> Hello, does anyone know of a way to set a universal proxy for Ubuntu. I am tethered to my iphone via SSH and it requires me manually configuring a proxy for every Application i use for it to connect to the internet .
[16:53] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: it is open and disabled
[16:53] <Tartaros> albert__: if you have 32bit CPU then 64bit software is not for you. You need to download the sources and compile them, or wait for the home page of this program to go online and then look there for suitable packages
[16:53] <shazzr> scunizi: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 1064SG [Mystique] (rev 02)
[16:54] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: i did it, the terminal is gone but the update manager screen is still here
[16:54] <penguin42> JonathanEllis1: Cool; just like you set a vertrefresh range for the samtron set a similar range for the HP, just set it to say 58-65
[16:54] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: ok, bring up another terminal, type   xkill    and click on the app
[16:54] <JonathanEllis1> penguin42: I will also try removing the card to see if its labelled with the amount of RAM. It would be better to use 24 bpp as I am using this machine for desktop publishing and photo editing
[16:55] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: hehe, nice like app ;)
[16:55] <albert__> Tartaros: Thanks, I feel stupid because this is all new to me. I appreciate your patience
[16:55] <bitmonk> dan_: the application can't be subliminally forced to use a proxy if it doesn't look in a common place, but you can capture outgoing ports such as 80 with iptables
[16:55] <penguin42> JonathanEllis1: I guess you could just try putting a VideoRam 16384 in both sections and see if it works
[16:55] <scunizi> shazzr: there's lots of references for that or simalar cards using google.. for a google search use www.google.com/linux then search "MGA 1064sg ubuntu".. see what kind of references you get .. I suspect you dont have the right driver loaded.
[16:55] <JonathanEllis1> penguin42: I was just about to say that.
[16:55] <bitmonk> dan_: you may be able to set a SOCKS_PROXY env var or something which some apps may respect..
[16:56] <bitmonk> desktop suites like gnome and kde may have some common settings for certain apps
[16:56] <Tartaros> albert__: it's all right to be confused if you just start with linux ;) that's why this irc is here :)
[16:56] <albert__> Tartaros, Thank you again!
[16:57] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: its really useful :)
[16:57] <dan_> bitmonk: I cant even use "add/remove applications" software because its not configured to use a proxy
[16:57] <el-dbean> what does chmod 0700 do?
[16:57] <ray1> hello
[16:57] <jrib> !permissions > el-dbean
[16:57] <blackline> Hi. I have just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on a HP Laptop with Broadcom wireless network. I noticed a message mentioning this during installation and tried following some instructions that I googled. Most instructions seemed outdated so I'll drop the question here. How do I get my Broadcom Wireless Network to work now after installing Ubuntu 9.10?
[16:57] <penguin42> el-dbean: Makes a file or directory read/write/executable by only the owner
[16:57] <shazzr> scunizi: The computer is one I set up for my mum, and when I left home, it worked. Then all of a sudden it went black. I also tried to do a dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver...but that didn't work either.
[16:57] <ronald> ,how can change the OSS mixer to ALSA mixer?
[16:57] <dan_> bitmonk: the iphone uses port 3023 <IP_ADDRESS> i configured xchat and firefox to use them so i can get internet on those but on nothing else i actually need internet on lol
[16:58] <bitmonk> dan: you don't need to add or remove any applications to use the technique i described.. i understand your frustration but, an app is an app.  search the wiki for info on proxy for ubuntu specific apps esp..
[16:58] <el-dbean> what do you think about this comment "<+leftyfb> securing your home directory to 0700 on a laptop that you only use that doesn't have ssh install is also pointless" ?
[16:58] <fokuslee> Q: i want to change grub resolution how do i find out which mode is selected?
[16:58] <shishio> hi, im having problems with playing videos and sounds on my ubuntu desktop computer, when ever i try to play some movies or sounds my player crashes,.. any ideas?
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> el-dbean:  if its a single uyser system  - its pointless
[16:58] <bitmonk> for the add/remove stuff you might want to see if you can configure apt to use a proxy..
[16:58] <jc_> hi
[16:58] <penguin42> el-dbean: It's correct - the chmod protection is only against someone else on the system, if it's only you there is no one to protect against
[16:58] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: hmmmmmm, now it is running the last command you gave me ... fixed broken and now it's doing the ftp.debian.org again
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> el-dbean:  most of those security things are pointless for a single user system
[16:58] <Tartaros> albert__: np
[16:59] <Josh__> upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 from 9.02 broke my build environment. Now I have a bunch of links in /usr/lib that are stale, that havent been removed and re-linked to the new versions. Is there an easy fix?
[16:59] <usser> el-dbean, its not pointless
[16:59] <dan_> bitmonk: well my main concern in all honesty is not having to configure each app individually to use a proxy :\
[16:59] <bitmonk> be careful, btw, about what you use on the tethered connection, at&t is known to terminate for tethering, which is a tos violation..
[16:59] <el-dbean> k
[16:59] <el-dbean> mtie aswell do it anywa
[16:59] <el-dbean> y
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> el-dbean:  and they overlook things you MIGHT really want to do to secure a systen whos biggest security risk is that it may get stolen.
[16:59] <ray1> looking for 64 bit printer drivers
[16:59] <bitmonk> dan_: i gave you as much info on that as possible above, 2 or 3 potential solutions..
[16:59] <pogejr> hello
[16:59] <solmonpale> Hello All.  When I ran the live disk, ubuntu was able to identify and install the propriettary drivers I needed.  However, after installing the OS to my harddrive, when I go to administration>Hardware Drivers the list is blank.
[16:59] <Bodsda> MrPiracy: I am out of ideas then im afraid. I saw one mention of it on the mailing list, but no resolution.
[17:00] <Stanleyh> hello
[17:00] <usser> solmonpale, it may be a bug, try running sudo apt-get update
[17:00] <Stanleyh> hi everybody
[17:00] <ronald> i use the 9.04.,i dont have audio sound.help me please...
[17:00] <usser> solmonpale, and checking again
[17:00] <Stanleyh> I need some help
[17:00] <solmonpale> usser: Thank You. Will do.
[17:00] <Frozenball> What does it mean, if I have a black screen with a white mouse pointer and my keyboard is blinking two lights (the lights on the right)
[17:00] <dan_> bitmonk: By capturing outgoing ports you mean redirect common ports to 3023 ?
[17:00] <bitmonk> you're going to have to do some work either way, though.  if you don't want to think about how your computer works, get a mac or install winbloze and hire a professional.  regardless of the popularity and increasing quality of f/oss, the inherent diversity means for 100% sure there will never be settled on One And Only One way to do anything..
[17:00] <Stanleyh> can somebody help me plz
[17:00] <usser> Frozenball, kernel panic
[17:01] <bitmonk> through..
[17:01] <adahendra> @ronald : what device of u'r sound? type lspci
[17:01] <bitmonk> i forget exactly what the fw rules look like..
[17:01] <el-dbean> do you suggest i download grsec stable...i just downloaded ubuntu a few days ago...
[17:01] <Tartaros> Josh__: : the easy way seems to be reinstalling respective packages...
[17:01] <pogejr> I'm new to ubuntu(and Linux/Unix), but I just downloaded Ubuntu 9.10 and at random times it just crashes and the only thing I can do is reboot. I already enabled Ctrl-Alt-Backspace but it didn't work when it crashed. Any fix/ help
[17:01] <MrPiracy> Bodsda: it's ok ... i will see if it will repeat the ftp again, or if it will move on after reaching "Z"
[17:01] <sprink> Is ther source code for a package usually in the ubuntu repos? I need the source code for the version of python i'm using but I can't find it in the repos
[17:01] <dan_> bitmonk: Any suggested reading for redirecting "through" 3023 ?
[17:02] <Tartaros> pogejr: how exactly does it crash?
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> el-dbean:  i woudl suggest doing more reading on linux fundamentals and shell commands. not just trrying disrto after disrto
[17:02] <bitmonk> IPTABLES Howto ;)
[17:02] <angelus> !ask | Stanleyh
[17:02] <usser> sprink, its in the repos use apt-get source command
[17:02] <el-dbean> this is my first distro
[17:02] <el-dbean> i haven't tried more than one so far
[17:02] <ronald> adahendra: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
[17:02] <ronald> 00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
[17:02] <ronald> 00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
[17:02] <ronald> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[17:02] <ronald> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[17:02] <FloodBot2> ronald: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <ronald> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
[17:02] <sprink> usser: thanks
[17:02] <bitmonk> consider linking up to a real broadband connection if you need to install any packages..
[17:02] <usser> sprink, ie apt-get source xterm
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> el-dbean:  learn the fundamentals and they apply to most all linux variants
[17:02] <Elixir_> Stanleyh , ask your question if someone has answer ,you will get it
[17:02] <el-dbean> i do plan to learn some fundementals...any good reading you recommend?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> !training
[17:03] <el-dbean> but i still need to know whether you recommend i download grsec stable version or testing or whatever
[17:03] <joshuan> can someone explain how to implement sugarplum?
[17:03] <shishio> hi, im having problems with playing videos and sounds on my ubuntu desktop computer, when ever i try to play some movies or sounds my player crashes,.. any ideas?
[17:03] <bitmonk> if you want to do something experimental, it usually shouldn't be your only option.  you can learn some great survival skills in that situation, but you're unlikely to get done whatever you intended to get done by using your comp with a tether if you have to spend all day hax0ring to get it working..
[17:03] <pogejr> tartaros: the screen just freezes. I can only move the mouse but I can't click on anything. And if its on screensaver it won't go back to desktop.
[17:03] <icqn> alt gr button stoped to work after an ubuntu 9.10 upgrade, any ideas how to fix that?
[17:03] <dan_> bitmonk: unfortunatly there is no real broadband connection available to me :\
[17:03] <sebsebseb> pogejr: How much RAM?  Which graphics card?
[17:03] <bitmonk> no cafe? public library?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> el-dbean:  never heard of grsec - so no idea. its not ubuntu so try  the channel for that grec or whatever its called :)
[17:03] <penguin42> icqn: Try going to system->preferences->keyboard - there are a load of options about whether alt-gr or the other keys are used
[17:04] <abhi_> i cannot accept audio calls in pidgin 2.6.1 in ubuntu 9.04 . Can somebody direct me on how to enable that?
[17:04] <lex_> Why does the fast user switcher fail in 9.10?
[17:04] <pogejr> sebsebseb: 1.2G ram; bad graphics card-64mb
[17:04] <sebsebseb> popey: I meant the graphics card manufacture
[17:04] <sebsebseb> lex_: Clean install or upgrade?
[17:04] <pogejr> intel
[17:04] <dan_> bitmonk: Nah man i live in the middle of no where lol hence why i have to relye on tethering in the first place
[17:05] <sebsebseb> popey: hmm
[17:05] <icqn> penguin42, did that already all seems to be fine, googled already, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311272 have the same issue like in the last post there
[17:05] <sebsebseb> popey: hmm
[17:05] <Stanleyh> I have a classmate pc 1st generation with 512 mb, atom intel processor with 1 ghz and the flash hard disk udiskonship with 2gb of disk space. what is the best distros for me to install on this netbook... cause i cant install xubuntu on it bcuz of the space is not enough... can somebody help me out plz find the best distro for intel classmate pc  1st generation?
[17:05] <sebsebseb> pogejr: even
[17:05] <ronald> adahendra: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:05] <sebsebseb> similar names messing up my auto completge
[17:05] <blackline> Broadcom Wireless in Ubuntu 9.10, anyone know how I get this to work? Googling seems to give a lot of outdated information.
[17:05] <dan_> bitmonk: The fact that i got it working via SSH in the first place without is a fete all in its own lol , i had to download packages on my phone and SSH them to my computer
[17:05] <Elixir_> my graphic adapter ATI is not supported with 9.10 .. what will happen if I complete upgrading?
[17:05] <sebsebseb> popey: How new is the computer?
[17:05] <jlgshk> #ubuntu-es
[17:06] <Stanleyh> I have a classmate pc 1st generation with 512 mb, atom intel processor with 1 ghz and the flash hard disk udiskonship with 2gb of disk space. what is the best distros for me to install on this netbook... cause i cant install xubuntu on it bcuz of the space is not enough... can somebody help me out plz find the best distro for intel classmate pc  1st generation?
[17:06] <popey> sebsebseb: fix your tab complete please
[17:06] <Doorman352> blackline: This worked for me; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288865
[17:06] <bitmonk> fwiw the palm pre is way better at tethering, you can set up an ad-hoc wifi network.
[17:06] <el-dbean> should i be getting grsec from http://www.grsecurity.net/packages.php or from http://www.grsecurity.net/download_stable.php
[17:06] <rkvirani> Im curios, ubuntu doesnt work on my new laptop
[17:06] <bitmonk> also has to do with sprint vs att terms.
[17:06] <sebsebseb> pogejr: How new is the computer?
[17:06] <rkvirani> I installed it alongside windows and when it boots it complains about the partition
[17:06] <ctmjr> Elixir_: you can use the open source driver
[17:06] <rochdi> hello
[17:06] <bitmonk> seriously consider a real data card, they are cheaper than iphones by far.
[17:06] <dan_> Stanleyh you can install any distro you want with limited packages.
[17:06] <bitmonk> in plan and equipment cost.
[17:07] <rkvirani> it gets to the glowing logo but ... not much else, there is a recovery parition on the laptop, does it need to be removed?
[17:07] <blackline> Doorman352: Tried that also but could not find bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:07] <Mka1> el-dbean: try reading through this http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
[17:07] <brianwillis1984> Hey everyone is there any way i can get help with Evolution Mail????
[17:07] <mircea> cea
[17:07] <dan_> bitmonk: I can setup a wifi hotspot on my phone as well , i Lack a wifi card on my desktop. Its a DELL XPS 400 ;\
[17:07] <sebsebseb> Elixir_: Many people have had issues after upgrading 9.04 to 9.10.  Also ATI does not have good Linux support.
[17:07] <Doorman352> blackline: do you have a cd from the downloaded ISO?
[17:07] <el-dbean> should i be getting grsec from http://www.grsecurity.net/packages.php or from http://www.grsecurity.net/download_stable.php
[17:07] <el-dbean> lol
[17:07] <Mka1> brianwillis1984: yes there is a way
[17:07] <el-dbean> ill check it out mka1 thanks
[17:08] <icqn> not working alt gr button means, that I am not able to type "at"-sign, brackets....frustrating
[17:08] <blackline> Doorman352: Yes, I have that available.
[17:08] <Stanleyh> I have a classmate pc 1st generation with 512 mb, atom intel processor with 1 ghz and the flash hard disk udiskonship with 2gb of disk space. what is the best distros for me to install on this netbook... cause i cant install xubuntu on it bcuz of the space is not enough... can somebody help me out plz find the best distro for intel classmate pc  1st generation?
[17:08] <Stanleyh> hello
[17:08] <imagitron2> I need some help configuring my wifi card (intel PRO 39xx) from the command prompt?
[17:08] <imagitron2> anyone got a second to help with that?
[17:08] <Killerbunny> I have trouble with language settings of keyboard. I set it to danish and remove american, when i reboots american is back and is set.
[17:08] <joshuan> backtrack usb version
[17:08] <N30N> Help. I have been trying to install gimp 2.6.7 from source, and I have gotten through all the dependencies, however, when I run ./configure it outputs an error telling me that it expected gegl 0.0.18, when I installed 0.0.6. It tells me to run pkg-config gegl, or declare the enviroment variable. Pkg-config didnt fix it, so how do I declare gegl-0.0.6????
[17:08] <dan_> bitmonk: I have a wireless router but no way to actually go in and share the 3G connection :\
[17:08] <bitmonk> dan_ yeouch.. anyway, what i meant is that you can tether without a proxy, i'm not sure that is possible on att network.  you really kinda dove all into a super expensive and impractical purchase, i think.. even as much as i enjoyed my iphone, it would be a sad waste if i lived in the middle of nowhere.  like some star trek communicator in alameda. ;d *ducks*
[17:08] <JonathanEllis> penguin42: Thanks for all your help. Can you just check through the log now that I have specified videoram 16384 on both heads to check its not complaining? http://pastebin.com/f473f6b91
[17:09] <brianwillis1984> Mkal: Im trying to get it to connect to my Gmail... and i followed the steps at  http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799 and still haveing problems
[17:09] <icqn> does anybody has a working alt gr button on ubuntu 9.10 at least?
[17:09] <sebsebseb> pogejr: 9.04 had issues with  Intel graphics cards a lot of them,  9.10  is meant to have all/most of that fixed,  you can also check out the release notes  for 9.10 to find out about common issues
[17:09] <pogejr> sebsebseb: its not that new
[17:09] <Killerbunny> Im running on an upgraded version of 9.10 beta.
[17:09] <sebsebseb> !notes |  pogejr
[17:09] <Doorman352> blackline: After you added the cd to the repository, did you click reload?
[17:09] <bitmonk> you get 3G service from AT&T and you don't have a real broadband option? i really find that hard to believe!  anyway, there are tons of options.  try forwarding ports, still going to require 'per protocol' config, which is probably close mapping to 'per app', and no gui, but it sticks.
[17:09] <Mka1> brianwillis1984: which problems?
[17:09] <pogejr> ok thank you
[17:10] <Klatuferatanektu> how to print file privleges as octals?
[17:10] <Elixir_> sebsebseb ,but I still have ATI problem  in 8.10?
[17:10] <dan_> bitmonk : Yea it sucks quite hard to be honest lol.  I have had the Iphone and just recently moved. And the only broadband option requires buying a 400$ modem and paying 60$ a month
[17:10] <jrib> Klatuferatanektu: you may use ┬½ stat ┬╗
[17:10] <Elixir_> restricted version not work well
[17:10] <penguin42> JonathanEllis1: Looks good to me
[17:10] <om26er> !offtopic | dan_
[17:11] <Klatuferatanektu> jrib: ah, thx. this works
[17:11] <bitmonk> dan_ yeah i know the options can be tough, a friend and i are actually working on a rural 900mhz isp.  the investment to get cable lay out in rural areas is still astronomical.
[17:11] <jrib> N30N: why are you compiling gimp?
[17:11] <Mrokii> hello. I tried replacing grub with grub2 but the install process as described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 didn't work as the installation stopped with an error-message. And now neither grub nor grub2 is installed, so I guess I can't reboot Ubuntu anymore. Any tips?
[17:11] <penguin42> JonathanEllis1: Dual head with Matrox's have always been tricky to get right, I think even more if you actually have an onboard card
[17:11] <ctmjr> Stanleyh: look into damn small linux http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[17:11] <sebsebseb> Elixir_: Which version are you currently running?
[17:11] <ronald> any one can help me?i use 9.04.i don't have audio sound.this the model of my Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03).
[17:11] <N30N> jrib, because my friend wanted the latest stable version, of which I couldnt find any binarys
[17:11] <abhi_> My audio does not work in pidgin 2.6.1 . i am on ubuntu 9.04. can somebody direct me on how to correct that problem
[17:12] <Elixir_> for ubuntu : 8.10
[17:12] <Mka1> Mrokii: Install Grub again
[17:12] <joshuan> hey stan , what have u tried so far?
[17:12] <jrib> N30N: ok, but *why*?  Do you actually need any features it has that the repository's version does not have?
[17:12] <om26er> abhi_: try latest version 2.6.3
[17:12] <rkvirani> So anyone know of a fix?
[17:12] <penguin42> abhi_: I'd consider trying 9.10 - for me audio is more stable in 9.10 - that's not true for everyone though
[17:12] <sebsebseb> Mka1: needed to replace Grub with Grub 2 why?
[17:12] <Mrokii> Mka1:  that does not work because of a similar error-message, for whatever reason
[17:12] <angelus> Stanleyh if i recall correctly ... msot of the easier Linux distros require atleast 4GB of Disk space and recommend that we have 8(this was 1/2 a yr ago).... i could very well be wrong .... but you want to have atleast 4 GB of diskspace ......
[17:12] <N30N> jrib, the repo vs is 2.4. 2.6 is pretty far ahead.
[17:12] <adahendra> @ronald : you can edit alsa-base  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[17:13] <jrib> N30N: I really doubt it to be honest.  Anyway, how did you handle the dependencies you mentioned?
[17:13] <N30N> jrib,  but thats besides the point, how do I decalre an enviroment variable for gcc, to declare gegl-0.0.6?
[17:13] <ronald> how?
[17:13] <mneptok> sebsebseb: again, you need to fix your tab-complete and watch conversations carefully.
[17:13] <jrib> N30N: you don't want to do that...
[17:13] <adahendra> @ronald : add this into alsa-base  options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
[17:13] <adahendra> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
[17:13] <adahendra> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[17:13] <Mrokii> Mka1:  ultimately, it seems to boil down to grub-pc which can't be removed
[17:13] <N30N> jrib, then how do I tell ./configure that i have vs 0.0.6, and not the older 0.0.18??
[17:13] <ronald> adahendra: okey
[17:13] <om26er> abhi_: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[17:13] <jrib> N30N: can you answer my question?
[17:13] <bitmonk> so, i'm having trouble making a usb key to reinstall my netbook, which is acting up after an upgrade, or perhaps with 9.10 altogether - i'm giving a fresh install a chance to see.  the program seems to hang without providing any data except for greyed out buttons. anyone know if this tool still is expected to work?
[17:13] <messiah> please, i need help... i try to set up an static ip, i write some lines in interfaces because i can't click apply in NM; i restart networking after that, i check ifconfig and YES, i have the IP i want... but then, i turn off and turn on my computer and i don't have internet anymore, i have to delete the lines i wrote in interfaces in order to have internet.... why???? :( i want to have static IP :( what am i doing wrong? why can'
[17:13] <messiah> t i do that???
[17:13] <dan_> stanleyh : There are several linux distrobutions that give you package options for a minimal install. Read into them and find the one that best suites you.
[17:14] <N30N> jrib, what is your point???
[17:14] <jrib> N30N: for me to help you, I need you to answer my question...
[17:14] <Tartaros> messiah: how can you not click apply in NM? :)
[17:14] <Mka1> Mrokii: mmm, I thought you could apt-get remove grub2 and apt-get instal grub and then update the MBR
[17:14] <bitmonk> also, anyone know if the suspend/resume testing script is still valid?  i have failure on resume, but the script claims it can't suspend.
[17:14] <dan_> bitmonk : I have not even upgraded to 9.10 yet :\ still on 9.04
[17:14] <Mrokii> Mka1:  nope
[17:14] <Mka1> Mrokii: I dont have grub2 and never tried it
[17:14] <N30N> jrib, what exactly is your question??
[17:15] <jrib> N30N: I really doubt it to be honest.  Anyway, how did you handle the dependencies you mentioned?
[17:15] <grkblood13> are there any progs where you can not only convert VOB to avi but also crop the file in question? im using handbrake right now but it dont allow you to crop the file to the portion you want
[17:15] <el-dbean> should i be getting grsec from http://www.grsecurity.net/packages.php or from http://www.grsecurity.net/download_stable.php
[17:15] <messiah> Tartaros, don't know, i write ip, mask, gateway, one dns and it doesn't allow me to click it you know? not "push-able" button
[17:15] <jrib> el-dbean: this channel is for #ubuntu support not grsec
[17:15] <StrangeCharm> what's the name of the lamp metapackage?
[17:15] <Mrokii> Mka1:  I tried it because it was suggested as a solution for another problem. And now it seems I am left with an unbootable system. :(
[17:15] <llutz> el-dbean: ask better in #grsecurity (oftc)
[17:15] <grkblood13> when i say crop i mean only transcode a certain portion of the original file into a new file
[17:15] <adahendra> @messiah : you can set up static ip : sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[17:15] <_m3741_> Hi guys. Does anyone know whats going on with udev rules in 9.10? I've put a custom rule I always used on 8. but its now working now.
[17:15] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: what is the error?
[17:16] <N30N> jrib, could you be more clear? Mainly, I went through the readme, followed errors, until I had installed all the dependancies untill there were no more errors in ./configure, except for the whole gegl version error
[17:16] <_m3741_> *its not working*
[17:16] <jrib> N30N: how did you install the dependencies?
[17:16] <messiah> adahendra, i edited it with nano, it works while i don't turn off my computer
[17:16] <Tartaros> messiah: you sure you don't have some kind of typo in those settings in NM?
[17:16] <albert__> Tartaros: Are you still here?
[17:16] <N30N> jrib, well, most I found in apt, a few like babl and gegl i instaleld from source
[17:16] <Tartaros> albert__: yeah
[17:17] <messiah> Tartaros, i don't understand "typo" what do you mean
[17:17] <CapeFear> hey everyone
[17:17] <jrib> N30N: isn't gegl in the repositories?
[17:17] <Elmaron> messiah: typo means spelling mistake, e.g. you wrote "servre" instead of "server"
[17:17] <Mrokii> ChogyDan: while trying to deinstall grub2/grub-pc it says: Removing grub-pc ... - debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable - dpkg: error processing grub-pc (--purge): subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[17:17] <Elmaron> messiah: something typed wrong on accident
[17:17] <CapeFear> i'll be installing ubuntu 9.10.. this will be my first linux installation ever
[17:17] <albert__> Tartaros: I found a page that showed how to install Cinelerra http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1246571
[17:17] <Tartaros> messiah: that means if you didnt make a mistake writing down the stuff in the NM form. Like , instead of . or something
[17:17] <grkblood13> how do you edit video files to cut out the portion you want?
[17:17] <N30N> jrib, not the version that gimp 2.6 caleld for
[17:17] <CapeFear> i want to create dual boot, manually
[17:18] <CapeFear> i have /dev/sda1 ntfs which is 115178  (used = 102101)
[17:18] <Alan502> Good day :) im having problems working with an ntfs partition, an error message is prompted "The directory is not writable" whenever i try to save something in the partition. How can i fix this?
[17:18] <CapeFear> and /dev/sda2 fat32 4846 (used = 4145)
[17:18] <adahendra> @messiah : detail of your Ethernet???
[17:18] <Tartaros> CapeFear: try writing out your question in 1 line
[17:18] <ronald> adahendra: how can i add this?
[17:18] <Rabbitbunny> okay, .7z files, it knows it's an archive, but won't do anything with it. hints?
[17:18] <sprink> After installing python2.6-dev which supplys the header I needed to compile something, gcc/cc still complain the header is missing, but I verfied it is in /usr/include/python2.6, how can I resolve this?
[17:18] <albert__> Tartaros: Cinelerra is in and working perfect! :)
[17:18] <CapeFear> should i resize my /dev/sda1 in order to create free space for ubuntu?
[17:18] <Mka1> CapeFear: what do you mean by dual booting "manually"?
[17:18] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: The NTFS is  your Windows install I assume, with the Fat32 being a data partition?
[17:18] <Tartaros> Rabbitbunny: install 7z support
[17:18] <messiah> Tartaros, no, i am doing that since yesterday, many times,... and if i did wrong it wouldn't work until i turn off computer, no? i restart the networking and it works with the ip i want
[17:18] <sebsebseb> Mka1: manual install I expect
[17:19] <messiah> adahendra, it is not ethernet, i don't have ethernet just wlan
[17:19] <Stanleyh> i just want to have a distros the can fit on 1gb
[17:19] <Godfather_> Mka1, still herE?
[17:19] <Mka1> sebsebseb: manual install?
[17:19] <CapeFear> Mka1: installing a dual boot manually.. what else?
[17:19] <Stanleyh> afe
[17:19] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: are you sure you don't have any other package type programs open?  like synaptic or upgrade-manager?
[17:19] <joshuan1> corel linux
[17:19] <Alan502> Good day :) im having problems working with an ntfs partition, an error message is prompted "The directory is not writable" whenever i try to save something in the partition. How can i fix this?
[17:19] <Stanleyh> after full install
[17:19] <CapeFear> sebsebseb: i think so, but i'm not sure ... how do i check?
[17:19] <Mka1> Godfather_: yep
[17:19] <sebsebseb> Mka1: yeah on the Ubuntu installer
[17:19] <Tartaros> messiah: then whats your problem exactly?
[17:19] <preecher> did the 9.10 upgrade change something in usb? after upgrading from 9.04 none of my cameras (digital) will connect
[17:19] <Godfather_> Mka1, i did solve the problem, i can put you on privmsg my webserver so you can see the problem permsion?
[17:19] <adahendra> @ronald : you can type : sudo gedit  /etc/modprobe.d/alda-base
[17:19] <Godfather_> i didnt
[17:19] <Godfather_> sorry
[17:19] <N30N> jrib, anyways, the question is, how do I decalre the enviroment variables?? I tried "./configure GLIB_CFLAGS="0.0.6" GLIB_LIBS="0.0.6"" but that failed
[17:19] <sebsebseb> preecher: yes USB has changed it seems,  I think  that's even mentioned in the release notes
[17:20] <sebsebseb> !notes |  preecher
[17:20] <Rabbitbunny> adahendra: No, use gksudo for gui operations.
[17:20] <messiah> Tartaros, after i set the ip static in the file interfaces.... it works, but when i turn off and turn on computer, i can't connect to internet
[17:20] <ronald> adahendra: then what is next?
[17:20] <Mka1> Godfather_: yes please
[17:20] <superdump> hello
[17:20] <_m3741_> Anyone knwos why isn't /etc/udev/rules.d/XX-name.rule working on 9.10 ?
[17:20] <messiah> Tartaros, and i can't set it in manual in IPv4 in NM, it doesn't allow me to push APPLY
[17:20] <superdump> does anyone know how to change the duration of notify osd popups?
[17:20] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: Are you on the Ubuntu Live CD right now?
[17:20] <Tartaros> messiah: well are you sure the ip is free for you?
[17:20] <superdump> they're way too long for my liking at the moment
[17:21] <jrib> N30N: what version of ubuntu is this?
[17:21] <N30N> jrib, 8.04 lts
[17:21] <Mrokii> ChogyDan:  I don't see any window of these apps and also checked with System monitor and see no Synaptic or Update-manager-process
[17:21] <messiah> Tartaros, yes dude, i was using it in windows, i only have two computers here, and just this (downloads) is static (number 49)
[17:21] <blacksad__> hello just one question hoow take kde minimal system to on ubuntu karmic i would like gnome and kde but not all little applications about kde  one issue ?
[17:21] <CapeFear> sebsebseb no, but i tried to install it, so i have a good visual image of what the partitioning section looks like
[17:22] <blacksad__> it is kdebas ?
[17:22] <CapeFear> i also wrote things down :)
[17:22] <Alan502> Please help!!! im having problems working with an ntfs partition, an error message is prompted "The directory is not writable" whenever i try to save something in the partition. How can i fix this?
[17:22] <Tartaros> blacksad__: what?
[17:22] <Mka1> CapeFear: you need a live CD first
[17:22] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: ok, but you don't know what your Fat32 is used for?
[17:22] <CapeFear> Mka1: i have one
[17:22] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat         whats that report?
[17:23] <adahendra> @ronald : reboot your computer
[17:23] <python_root> !kde
[17:23] <blacksad__> i have one fresh ubuntu but i would like kde 4.3 ! ( gnome +kde 4.3) but not all litle soft kfax ksnap etc
[17:23] <CapeFear> sebsebseb - my fat32 is only 4,8 GB  and uses 4,1 GB ... that should be Windows, right?
[17:23] <python_root> !minimal kde
[17:23] <blacksad__> juste the systeme base of kde
[17:23] <JarlG> Hello, I've got a friend with a macbook 13". It's got an AirPort Extreme bcm4328 as wireless adapter, but it is not configured. It worked out-of-the box in install CD, but wlan0 is not even a device on the installation. Is there a driver missing?
[17:23] <Tartaros> CapeFear: are you having a specific problem or are you just asking "how to install"...? because that┬¦s covered in tutorials
[17:23] <Mrokii> ChogyDan:  nothing
[17:23] <python_root> !kde only environment
[17:23] <Schalla> Guys, maybe someone can help me. I patched from 9.04 to 9.10. Now my problem is that i dont got gnome. Just the terminal.... I installed the xorg-driver. I tried ubuntu-desktop, i reinstalled xorg totally...
[17:23] <messiah> Tartaros, can't you help me? :(
[17:23] <python_root> !kde
[17:23] <Schalla> GOt no idea left.
[17:23] <IdleOne> !purekde
[17:23] <blacksad__> yes only kde environement
[17:24] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: If you still have the ISO by the way,   I would suggest md5suming it, just to make sure it's a good download.   That can be done in Windows, but also in Ubuntu  which is easier.
[17:24] <Schalla> How to check if the gpu works?
[17:24] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: have you tried the install again, is it still giving the error?
[17:24] <sebsebseb> !md5sum > CapeFear
[17:24] <CapeFear> Tartaros, yes, i asked if i should resize my sda1 or my sda2 ... the first is NTFS and is huge, the second is fat32 and is very small
[17:24] <blacksad__> not good i want gnome and kde
[17:24] <nullp0inter> i have a linksys wrt54gs router, on Hardy Heron and i cant connect to the internet..not wireless, plain wired connection
[17:24] <python_root> blacksad__: see the above link
[17:24] <ronald> adahendra: after type this: sudo gedit  /etc/modprobe.d/alda-base..what is the next step?
[17:24] <Tartaros> messiah: well I dunno, I tried NM and the apply button works if your setting make sense so I guess yours doesn┬¦t "P
[17:24] <nullp0inter> i can ping the router but nothing external
[17:24] <Tartaros> doesn't
[17:24] <python_root> blacksad__: u can use both
[17:24] <bitmonk> nullp0inter: you have other computers that can connect to the internet through this router?
[17:24] <Alan502> Im having problems writing to a partition! an error prompts whenever i try to write in it: "the directory is not writable" can someone help me please!
[17:24] <joshuan1> requirements Pentium’┐Į or Pentium-compatible processor     24 MB RAM (64 MB RAM recommended)     500 MB of hard disk space     CD-ROM drive, 2 MB VGA PCI card and mouse     Supports most hardware designed for Pentium    computers.
[17:24] <nullp0inter> bitmok: no
[17:24] <CapeFear> sebsebseb - i downloaded the iso from the official website, is there room for worry?
[17:24] <nullp0inter> *bitmonk
[17:24] <prodcutnews> how to get voices of speaker and webcam view with pidgin ???
[17:24] <Mike_lifeguard> nullp0inter: if you connect the computer directly to the modem, can you access the internet?
[17:24] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: sometimes they don't download properly from there
[17:24] <prodcutnews> how to get voices of speaker and webcam view with pidgin ???
[17:24] <messiah> Tartaros, can i run that with root??? maybe it will work, but i don't know how to do that
[17:24] <angelus> CapeFear resize the NTFS ..... but do it in your windows partition .... its safer taht way ....
[17:25] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: ,but it sounds like you were on it before, and things were working, so it's probably fine
[17:25] <CapeFear> yes
[17:25] <CapeFear> i managed to boot the live cd
[17:25] <CapeFear> to boot ubuntu from the live cd i mean
[17:25] <adahendra> @JarlG : you can install bcmwl-kernel-source for broadcom
[17:25] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: ,but checking the ISO is still a good thing to do
[17:25] <nullp0inter> Mike_lifeguard: yes I can
[17:25] <Mrokii> ChogyDan:  yep
[17:25] <JarlG> adahendra: Is that a simple "sudo aptitude install xxx" and it's done?
[17:25] <CapeFear> sebsebseb ok, i'll do it :)
[17:25] <messiah> how can i run NM under root "mode"?
[17:25] <CapeFear> thank you
[17:26] <CapeFear> so when i set up the partitions, / should be primary, right
[17:26] <CapeFear> do i need to make any "logical" partitions?
[17:26] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: setting up partitions we will get to that, but first
[17:26] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: what command are you using to update?
[17:26] <CapeFear> noodlees: i'm using windows ;)
[17:26] <Alan502> Im having problems writing to a partition! an error prompts whenever i try to write in it: "the directory is not writable" can someone help me please!
[17:26] <Tartaros> messiah: yeah you can try sudo nm-connection-editor
[17:26] <JonathanEllis> penguin42: Thanks very much for all your help
[17:26] <preecher> sebsebseb, sorry i hada reboot my laptop freezes 2-3 times a day since the upgrade also--could u tole me that link again about fixin my usb for my dig cams?
[17:26] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: I have this correct yes,  you have  NTFS for Windows, and a Fat32 which you don't know what it is being used for
[17:26] <adahendra> @JarlG : yes , broadcom will be active after installing bcmwl-kernel-source and reboot the computer
[17:26] <sebsebseb> ?
[17:26] <jrib> N30N: why did you install 0.0.6 if it wants 0.0.18?
[17:26] <myeyespy> QUESTION: I have 9.1 x64 with 4GB of ram which all show up on boot but I can only see/use 3 GB, 2 x 6600 GT with only 128 ram. Help anyone? I actually use more than 3 GB ram so I need it all ^^
[17:26] <penguin42> JonathanEllis: No problem, ejoy it
[17:26] <JarlG> adahendra: Thanks! Will do!
[17:27] <Kackle> I have  a asus eeepc 1000HE.. after I installed xubuntu I got a annoying static sound that disapears when I mute the volyme. I had windows home before the installation and then there was pefect sound
[17:27] <sebsebseb> preecher: uhmm not sure if that was me, you want the web cam link?
[17:27] <CapeFear> sebsebseb yes, i'm not really sure about fat32... but i only have Windows installed, so shouldn't that be used by windows (what else)?
[17:27] <penguin42> noodlees: Please don't do that, it tickles
[17:27] <nullp0inter> so yes, i can connect to the internet thru my modem..but not when i connect to the router
[17:27] <ronald> adahendra: after type this: sudo gedit  /etc/modprobe.d/alda-base..what is the next step?
[17:27] <JonathanEllis> penguin42: I will post it all on tuxx-home for others to benefit from
[17:27] <Mrokii> ChogyDan:  sudo apt-get install grub2 (as described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[17:27] <nullp0inter> i can ping the router fine..but nothing external
[17:27] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: lap top or desktop?
[17:27] <preecher> i thote it was u--my cam no longer works in new upgrade
[17:27] <Mka1> CapeFear, sebsebseb, I suggest that the bigger filesystem (NTFS) be resized regardless of what it has inside
[17:27] <xrandr> nullp0inter: what kind of router, what kind of connection?
[17:27] <messiah> Tartaros, very strange... i run it, and in wireless connection there is not my WLAN... :S
[17:27] <penguin42> myeyespy: if you put your dmesg into a pastebin somewhere it might help
[17:27] <Tartaros> Kackle: mute the microphone loop
[17:27] <juro> hi, in 9.10, is there a system usage monitor for the notification area?
[17:27] <Noiano> hello
[17:28] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: well yes what  Mka1 is saying your  Windows partition is going to get resized
[17:28] <messiah> Tartaros, it doesn't appear my WLAN :S:S but i can see it in the NM next to the clock
[17:28] <Tartaros> messiah: well you probably shouldn't run it separately
[17:28] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: ps aux | grep ucf
[17:28] <titanicheart> Problem is USB optical mouse is not detected UBUNTU 9.04..(The lights on Optical mouse are there after I plug in the usb)
[17:28] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: How big is the Fat32,  open it up in Windows  if you can in my computer?   If not it's a hidden partition.
[17:28] <Xcell> juro-   right click pannel and add system-monitor
[17:28] <CapeFear> sebsebseb: laptop... yeah, i think i need to resize my huge partition (the 115178 one)
[17:28] <messiah> Tartaros, what do you mean?
[17:28] <shadenzo> hello all does anyone know a good material talking about HDD low level structure?
[17:29] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: I think it's probably a recovery partition, did you get a Windows CD/DVD with the lap top?
[17:29] <CapeFear> sebsebseb - fat32 is 4846, which uses 4145 ... that's what the ubuntu installer told me
[17:29] <ajunior> hello all
[17:29] <adahendra> @ronald : save the configuration of alsa-base , and reboot your computer
[17:29] <CapeFear> no, i bought it separately, sebsebseb
[17:29] <Mrokii> ChogyDan:  Something seems to be wrong with that commands, as I get: "ERROR: Conflicting format options." plus a list of options
[17:29] <preecher> do they have a fix it for dig cams? none of my cams will make connection after i upgraded to 9.10--
[17:29] <Alan502> THIS IS MY FIFTH MESSAGE SOMEONE! PLEASE im having problems with a ntfs partition, whenever i try to write in it an error prompts "the directory is not writable" apparently i have already configured the drive to be writable, with pysdm but still i cannot save anything to the partition. Maybe chmod? will someone explain me the command pleaseee!!
[17:29] <Kackle> Tartaros: where do i mute it? I can mute the microphone but it didnt help
[17:30] <Tartaros> messiah: ignore the nm ran from terminal, just use the one from the applet, and re-check the data youre putting in it. Or show me the nm window or something. I still think your data are wrong, since it doesnt let you apply them.
[17:30] <ronald> adahendra: okey
[17:30] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: well shoudn't really delete a partiton that is being used  for recovery or something,  hence finding out what it is.   As for the Windows partition yes that should be resized, I have never had data loss issues or anything like that myself after resizing Windows, but it could happen, so  if you got important data back that up first.
[17:30] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: hmm, did you use an L or a pipe maybe?
[17:30] <Noiano> Alan502, check the permissions...
[17:30] <Mka1> CapeFear: but you can mount both your NTFS and FAT32 partitions in ubuntu and confirm their contents
[17:30] <messiah> Tartaros, do you want me to make a print screen?
[17:30] <Doorman352> Alan502: Maybe nobody has your answer..... keep trying
[17:31] <Alan502> Noiano, how can i check the permissions?
[17:31] <myeyespy> QUESTION: 4 GB ram installed with 9.1 x86, only 3 show up in Linux tho BIOS finds 4GB, help anyone?
[17:31] <Mrokii> ChogyDan:  nope, I pasted the commands from here into the bash-window
[17:31] <Tartaros> messiah: yeah that could help, but I can't tell you where to put it :)
[17:31] <Alan502> Doorman352, :( well, ok thanks :D
[17:31] <CapeFear> Mka1, where can i find information on what "mounting" means?
[17:31] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: Which version of Windows is on there?
[17:31] <CapeFear> sebsebseb: i already backed up my important documents
[17:31] <messiah> Tartaros, i can tell you here directly
[17:31] <CapeFear> sebsebseb: xp pro se
[17:32] <Tartaros> messiah: ok, go ahead
[17:32] <Noiano> Alan502, ls -l in the directory where the mount point is
[17:32] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: In Windows can you access the Fat32?
[17:32] <shadenzo> alan502      it's possible it isn't mounted ,   go to resouces->computer  click on the ntfs disk to make ubuntu mount it
[17:32] <CapeFear> sebsebseb how do i ascertain this?
[17:32] <bitmonk> myeyespy: use 64-bit or pae kernel
[17:32] <BluesKaj> Alan502, http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=22093
[17:32] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: How do you what?
[17:32] <CapeFear> sebsebseb how can i know if i can access the fat32 or not?
[17:32] <Mka1> CapeFear: didnt you say you booted with the Live CD now?
[17:32] <CapeFear> Mka1 no, i booted the live cd about 2 hours ago
[17:32] <Alan502> shadenzo, it is already mounted, but apparently "The directory is not writable"
[17:33] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: well  you can access it from My Computer or you can't it's as simple as that
[17:33] <Xcell> myeyespy-  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[17:33] <CapeFear> mka1 i don't have wireless set up on my ubuntu livecd...
[17:33] <Mka1> CapeFear: oh, now you are on Windows?
[17:33] <CapeFear> mka1 yes sir
[17:33] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: yeah, I dunno, its working for me  :(   moving on, eh?
[17:33] <Josh__> Is there a way to switch back from mythbuntu to ubuntu-desktop without reinstalling?
[17:33] <CapeFear> sebsebseb - i just opened My Computer, what do i do know?
[17:33] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: well it won't do any harm keeping it, but  really you should know what your partitions are and what they are bieng used for
[17:33] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: maybe try sudo killall -g update-grub
[17:33] <messiah> Tartaros, in IPv4 , i click MANUAL, then IP, <IP_ADDRESS>, mask <IP_ADDRESS> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>, then my DNS and it doesn't allow me to click APPLY (am trying since yesterday)
[17:33] <Tartaros> Alan502 it could be that it's mounted as read only, as a "backup mount" solution when the readwrite mount fails. Try remounting it manually, if you didnt already
[17:33] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: You should see C for example  for Windows,  but do you get anything else for example D?
[17:33] <myeyespy> Xcell - I have x64 9,1 installed
[17:33] <Mka1> CapeFear: right-click the C: drive in My Computer and celect properties
[17:33] <tapas> hmm
[17:33] <Xcell> oh  ok
[17:33] <Mrokii> ChogyDan:  No process like that
[17:33] <tapas> with the new ubuntu i get flash "whiteouts"
[17:33] <shadenzo> alan502 is it the first time you try to write in this ntfs partition?
[17:34] <Mka1> CapeFear: you will see if ever it's a FAT32 or NTFS
[17:34] <tapas> videos stop playing until i restart firefox
[17:34] <tapas> known problem?
[17:34] <CapeFear> oh ok.. sebsebseb Mka1, my C: is NTFS
[17:34] <Alan502> shadenzo, on this install, yes
[17:34] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: yes, but is there another one?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: D?
[17:34] <ChogyDan> Mrokii: can you pastebin .xsession-errors?
[17:34] <Roasted> hey guys - when I run "usermod -G group user" in terminal (to add a user to a group) it takes the user out of the old group, as if it only allows that user to be in 1 group at a time. wtf? In the GUI I have one user in like 7 different groups. How can I do this in terminal to add 1 user to more than 1 group?
[17:34] <Alan502> shadenzo, i can write in the partition from windows tho
[17:34] <penguin42> tapas: Yeh quite common - buggy flash possibly - I find chrome is much more reliable
[17:35] <CapeFear> Mka1 sebsebseb i do have D: , but this is not a harddrive... it's my DVD-RAM Drive (D:)
[17:35] <Tartaros> messiah: yeah and the dns servers...?
[17:35] <CapeFear> and my DVD Drive is G:
[17:35] <dygey> who has an idea where i can get help for mandriva?
[17:35] <Mka1> CapeFear, as sebsebseb had said earlier, the FAT32 should be the recovery partition then (and it should be hidden)
[17:35] <messiah> Tartaros, <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:35] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: Ok so no E or anything like that?   The Ubuntu Live CD, but also install, will be able to access hidden Windows partitions.
[17:35] <Jo> Hey. Does anybody here know an effective method for tunneling true a NAT with all ports closed? I have an ubuntu server behind the nat. And I know that for example teamvieuwer can tunnel true it, but I can't accomplich it with normal linux-tools.
[17:35] <Alan502> Tartaros, how to mount it manually?
[17:35] <Mka1> CapeFear: thats a CD/DVD drive
[17:35] <Hedge|Hog> all my systemlogs on karmic gets deleted whenever i have a system hang, whats up with that?
[17:35] <Doorman352> #mandriva-chat
[17:35] <CapeFear> sebsebseb - i do not have E
[17:36] <dygey> sebsebseb:hello man
[17:36] <Mrokii> Is there a way to find out which process accesses a certain file at the moment?
[17:36] <tapas> penguin42: when i installed flash 10 manually on 9.04 it didn't have this problem
[17:36] <mykola> heh. hey guys, running 9.04 here, and I saw a thread on the forums about using the netbook remix UI on a high resolution screen... so I tried it. It was cool, but in the end I found it a little annoying, so I disabled it with the newly installed "Switch Desktop Mod" app. The only problem is that now all windows default to opening maximized. How can I set them to open in their last opened configuration?
[17:36] <sebsebseb> dygey: hi
[17:36] <MrSunshine> got huge problems with sound in firefox, it works when i reboot firefox ... to if it stands a while then sound starts "hacking" ... hear same word like 5 times before it continues
[17:36] <dygey> doorman:thanks
[17:36] <CapeFear> is there any way i can check what my FAT32 is?
[17:36] <MrSunshine> ive removed pulseaudio
[17:36] <CapeFear> Mka1 sebsebseb
[17:36] <Doorman352> np
[17:36] <DJones> dygey: I think there's a #mandriva on freenode
[17:36] <enrico_> hello i just installed mldonkey-server all is ok but the process mlnet occupy the server continuosly?
[17:36] <tapas> penguin42: i'll try this on 9.10, too
[17:36] <mykola> Switch Desktop Mode* srry
[17:36] <penguin42> tapas:32 or 64?
[17:36] <dygey> thanks all
[17:36] <sebsebseb> Mka1: I am not sure why he has a recovery partition or whatever though, after apparnatlly he bought a CD seperatly for the lap top
[17:36] <tapas> penguin42: 64 bit
[17:36] <Kackle> Tartaros: the static sound is still there.. I didnt find the "microphone loop" but i found "microphone" and muted it but it didnt help
[17:36] <Tartaros> messiah: well it looks ok... must be some obscure problem with the nm, it should let you apply those settings, sorry :(
[17:36] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: Was there a previous version of Windows on there before?
[17:37] <CapeFear> sebsebseb yes i had one before
[17:37] <dygey> sebsebseb:i'm back on linux...mandriva:D
[17:37] <Roasted> Guys - what's a REALLY Good solid web based GUI Frontend to manage an Ubuntu Server without a GUI? (besides webmin)
[17:37] <Roasted> hey guys - when I run "usermod -G group user" in terminal (to add a user to a group) it takes the user out of the old group, as if it only allows that user to be in 1 group at a time. wtf? In the GUI I have one user in like 7 different groups. How can I do this in terminal to add 1 user to more than 1 group?
[17:37] <Tartaros> Alan502: the look up the mount command, and the /etc/fstab file.
[17:37] <penguin42> tapas: Some say the alpha of 64bit flash works more stably, I think the auto install installs 32bit flash+nspluginwrapper still
[17:37] <sebsebseb> dygey: I don't remember you right now,  you can pm me though
[17:37] <shadenzo> Alan502,  try this command  sudo  touch    /<path into the partition>/proof    what is the output?
[17:37] <messiah> Tartaros, what can i do? what should you do?
[17:37] <CapeFear> sebsebseb -- then i think i uninstalled it and installed a new windows
[17:37] <Mka1> CapeFear, you can check that partition from within Ubuntu Linux CD
[17:37] <bastidrazor> !ebox | Roasted
[17:37] <Mka1> CapeFear: Live CD
[17:37] <CapeFear> Mka1, how exactly?
[17:37] <tapas> penguin42: ok, i'll uninstall that then and use the alpha again
[17:38] <Jo> Hey. Does anybody here know an effective method for tunneling true a NAT with all ports closed? I have an ubuntu server behind the nat. And I know that for example teamvieuwer can tunnel true it, but I can't accomplich it with normal linux-tools.
[17:38] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: Which version was it before?
[17:38] <CapeFear> sebsebseb Mka1 all i saw from the installation was that my FAT32 is /dev/sda2 which is 4846 MB, out of which i was using 4145
[17:38] <mykola> so. does anyone know how to set the default size of newly opened windows to something other than "Maximum"?
[17:38] <Tartaros> Kackle: don't you have some audio application running that could cause it?
[17:38] <CapeFear> sebsebseb i think it was the same
[17:38] <Enigmocracy> I'm running eeebuntu netbook remix on an asus EEEPC, and when I try to upgrade to 9.1, it says I need 1 GB more space than my computer has (4 GB), is there any possible way to upgrade?
[17:38] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: By the sounds of it  it's  for  the former Windows install that was on there, and it will be safe to remove.
[17:38] <CapeFear> xp pro se2 sebsebseb
[17:38] <Mka1> CapeFear: "sudo mkdir /media/fat32 && sudo mount /dev/sda? /media/fat32"
[17:38] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: however leaving it is also fine
[17:38] <ronald> adahendra: im finish reboot my computer but still the have no sound.
[17:38] <Mka1> CapeFear: with ? being the right number
[17:38] <mykola> I don't see anything in ccsm or the System>Preferences>Windows app regarding window size in that way
[17:38] <nannes> uhm, guys i'm really unlucky :( ---> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/471731
[17:38] <nannes> exists an alternative network-manager for managing  broadband mobile connections??
[17:38] <Alan502> shadenzo,  touch: cannot touch `/media/sda5/proof': Read-only file system
[17:39] <CapeFear> Mka1, this should tell me what uses FAT32?
[17:39] <penguin42> Enigmocracy: Try clearing out absolutely everything you don't need, clean out /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:39] <Alan502> Tartaros, thanks ;)
[17:39] <kris__> jrib: Hi. You still around?
[17:39] <Tartaros> Enigmocracy: install ubuntu on an SDHC card ;) that's what I'm doing
[17:39] <solomonpale> solomon pale here again,  I connected to wired ethernet, ran sudo apt-get update, and am still not able to load restricted drivers
[17:39] <Elixir_> Is there any solution for ATI graphic in 8.10?
[17:39] <joshuan1> how about DSL (damn small linux?
[17:39] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: boot up the Live CD come back here, and  Mka1 and myself will continue
[17:39] <Roasted> hey guys - when I run "usermod -G group user" in terminal (to add a user to a group) it takes the user out of the old group, as if it only allows that user to be in 1 group at a time. wtf? In the GUI I have one user in like 7 different groups. How can I do this in terminal to add 1 user to more than 1 group?
[17:39] <bastidrazor> Elixir_: the solution i found was upgrade to 9.04
[17:39] <Mka1> CapeFear, sebsebseb: used partition size of  4145 sounds like a DVD size
[17:40] <CapeFear> sebsebseb i do not have wireless installed on ubuntu
[17:40] <python_root> Tell me a channel were i can discuss hardware program
[17:40] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: ah
[17:40] <nannes> uhm, guys i'm really unlucky  ---> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/471731
[17:40] <nannes> exists an alternative network-manager for managing  broadband mobile connections??
[17:40] <sebsebseb> Mka1: hmm you know how to sort out wireless issues by any chance?
[17:40] <mykola> nannes: wicd?
[17:40] <ronald> adahendra: im finish reboot my computer but still the have no sound.
[17:40] <adahendra> @ronald : may be you can follow this site for alsa : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/274424
[17:40] <Mka1> sebsebseb: wireless issues?
[17:40] <nannes> mykola: wicd doesn't work with umts/hsdpa
[17:40] <Enigmocracy> Tartaros: How would I go about doing that?
[17:40] <CapeFear> mka1 where do i input "sudo mkdir /media/fat32 && sudo mount /dev/sda? /media/fat32"
[17:40] <el-dbean> do you recommend a linux noob to install grsec?
[17:41] <ronald> okey
[17:41] <el-dbean> or just stick to pax?
[17:41] <Josh__> CapeFear, in a terminal window
[17:41] <sebsebseb> Mka1: yes  CapeFear  doesn't have working wireless on Ubuntu
[17:41] <Elixir_> I try to update but always give me notice that it is not supported in 9.04
[17:41] <thedoor> how can i install kde on my ubuntu?
[17:41] <Mka1> CapeFear: On Terminal
[17:41] <Elixir_> *upgrade
[17:41] <Kackle> Tartaros: No... But directly when i for example start a youtube video the static sound starts and some seconds after the video when there is no sound playing it stops
[17:41] <CapeFear> Mka1, how would i get to the Terminal?
[17:41] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: well not much point installing  Ubuntu unless you can get that wireless working, or have the computer etherneted
[17:41] <shadenzo> alan502 i think the problem is the way in witch the filesystem is mounted : it's mounted only in read mode : this decided by the fstab file
[17:41] <Josh__> CapeFear, you need to interpret that command, not just cut/paste
[17:41] <nannes> mykola: it works only for 802.11b/g or wired connections
[17:41] <CapeFear> Josh__: that's not my question, but thanks
[17:41] <DJones> !kde | thedoor
[17:41] <Mka1> CapeFear: <ALT>+F2 then type "gnome-terminal"
[17:41] <bastidrazor> thedoor: in terminal type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:41] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: installing a good Ubuntu install with a seperate home as well, that's easy,  setting up wireless on the other hand though hmm
[17:41] <CapeFear> mka1 thank you
[17:41] <solomonpale> Does anyone know why restricted drivers would load on the live cd and not once I've installed?
[17:42] <nannes> uhm, guys i'm really unlucky  ---> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/471731
[17:42] <nannes> exists an alternative network-manager for managing  broadband mobile connections??
[17:42] <Josh__> CapeFear, I know its not your question, but I saw you just copy/pasted the command.
[17:42] <Alan502> shadenzo, i will look in the fstab file to see if there is something i can fix, thanks :)
[17:42] <thedoor> DJones, i tried the kubuntu-desktop, but it install a lot of thing that i don't need, i just want the kde =/
[17:42] <python_root> Tell me a channel were i can discuss hardware program plz
[17:42] <CapeFear> Josh__ i just didn't know where to input it... i know i had to modify the command :)
[17:42] <tapas> penguin42: ok, we'll see how it goes :)
[17:42] <python_root> Tell me a channel were i can discuss hardware programs plz plz plz
[17:42] <el-dbean> do you recommend a linux noob to install grsec? or just install pax?
[17:43] <CapeFear> sebsebseb - is setting up wireless that bad?
[17:43] <mykola> nannes: srry :(
[17:43] <bitmonk> nannes: you can surely configure any network connection without network-manager, sometimes it does get in the way if it has a bug.
[17:43] <llutz> el-dbean: better ask in #grsecurity (oftc)
[17:43] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: depends on the user and what hardware they have
[17:43] <CapeFear> i thought it will detect my network automatically.
[17:43] <bitmonk> oh whups, stucky scroll ;d
[17:43] <chomwitt> i installed ubuntu 9.10 in a secondary hdd and it changed grub legacy to grub2!! but in my debian installation (primary hdd sda) i've not installed grub2. How i'm supposed to change the grub.cnf? (isnt installed in ubuntu either)
[17:43] <CapeFear> erm..
[17:43] <Tartaros> Kackle: wel that's weird, no idea what could cause it if you say it works in windows :o
[17:43] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: I thought you said that you didn't get wireless in Ubuntu?
[17:43] <CapeFear> sebsebseb, yes
[17:43] <CapeFear> i do not have wireless in ubuntu
[17:43] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: if it is not auto detected on the Live CD,  it probably will also not be in an install
[17:43] <CapeFear> i see
[17:44] <CapeFear> well, how can i check if i'll be able to set up the wireless?
[17:44] <nannes> bitmonk: but.... how?
[17:44] <mykola> so... this isn't a critical issue, but it's starting to annoy the hell out of me. All of my windows are maximized when I open them (instead of being the same size that they were last). I can't find where the option is to change this :(
[17:44] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: I can help with partitining no problem, but wirelss uhmm  you need someone else really for that
[17:44] <jericho> join #ubuntu-ru
[17:44] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  CapeFear
[17:45] <solomonpale> Why would hardware be detected on the live cd and not once I've installed?  I've run sudo apt-get update.
[17:45] <Kackle> Tartaros: A friend of mine have exactly the same problem :D
[17:45] <shadenzo> Alan502   i am not expert in this ubuntu . sure the problem is  the partition is not mounted in R/W mode but i don't know exactly were the problem starts,  try for the help of a more expert person and look in google for the problem !!  bye
[17:45] <kris__> Hi. I'm running karmic, but I would like to install kernel 2.6.28, which is only on Jaunty. How can I do this?
[17:45] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: However  you can hopefuly do it natively, if not there's a program called Ndiswrapper that can get many WIndows drivers working for wireless hardware.
[17:45] <Mka1> CapeFear, sebsebseb, wish I could help but have no useful knowledge in the wireless field
[17:45] <Tartaros> nannes: try looking for an alternative within the packages repository, I saw at least 1 wirless configuration gui thingy, alas I don't remember the name...
[17:45] <CapeFear> sebsebseb mka1 how do you guys use the wireless then?
[17:45] <ChogyDan> kris__: I would try packages.ubuntu.com and install jaunty kernel
[17:46] <baltadt> how do you create a file in terminal
[17:46] <llutz> baltadt: touch file
[17:46] <kris__> ChogyDan: Not sure what you mean.
[17:46] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: I don't,  I use ethernet
[17:46] <CapeFear> i see
[17:46] <baltadt> ty
[17:46] <Mka1> CapeFear, it's usually hardware dependant
[17:46] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: I have used wireless in the past on a lap top or two though
[17:46] <nannes> solved.... I'll use gnome-ppp... thanks all however
[17:46] <MenZa> baltadt: create an empty file with < touch filename > - if you want to actually edit one, < nano filename >
[17:46] <kris__> ChogyDan: Download the .deb package for 2.6.28 from there for jaunty, and just install it manually?
[17:46] <CapeFear> Mka1 so can i check if my hardware will be good for wireless?
[17:46] <ChogyDan> kris__: yes
[17:47] <CapeFear> should i use the ubuntu forums? mka1
[17:47] <kris__> ChogyDan: Thanks for the clarification, and for the help.
[17:47] <Mka1> CapeFear: are you using 3G for wireless internet?
[17:47] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: as well as tried to figure out how to get  a wireless device working with Fedora Core 2 in 2004 when I was new to Desktop Linux,  with me having no idea what to do at the time
[17:47] <solomonpale> Why would hardware be detected on the live cd and not once I've installed?  I've run sudo apt-get update.
[17:47] <CapeFear> mka1 i'm pretty sure that's it
[17:47] <ChogyDan> kris__: I got you a link, but it looks like you got it  :p       http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/linux-image
[17:47] <Tartaros> CapeFear: as has been said, if it doesn't work in Live, it probably won't in installed either
[17:47] <Mka1> CapeFear: of course!
[17:47] <KurtKraut> Firestarter (firewall) is a discontinued software. What software packaged to Ubuntu could replace it?
[17:48] <CapeFear> Tartaros what about drivers?
[17:48] <MenZa> !ufw | KurtKraut
[17:48] <Mka1> CapeFear: how do you connect to the internet on Windows?
[17:48] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: no idea  how to get that wireless device working at the time, I meant
[17:48] <CapeFear> aren't there drivers for wireless in ubuntu?!
[17:48] <Altreus> I accidentally told ... something ... to launch when I plug in something with photos on and now I can't get it to stop it
[17:48] <baltadt> ok how about a folder
[17:48] <Ohlawdy> I had a heck of a time getting my wireless to work
[17:48] <KurtKraut> Mens, ufw is not equivalent to Firestarter.
[17:48] <llutz> baltadt: mkdir folder
[17:48] <baltadt> ty
[17:48] <Tartaros> CapeFear: drivers work differently in linux than they do in windows
[17:48] <Altreus> I tried going to removable devices and telling it never to launch anything on hotplug but it ignored me
[17:48] <KurtKraut> MenZa,  ufw is not equivalent to Firestarter.
[17:49] <sebsebseb> CapeFear:  Hardly any if any  manufactures support Desktop Linux properly when it comes to wireless.
[17:49] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[17:49] <CapeFear> mka1, well, i have a wireless network, windows searches for it, and i connect to it
[17:49] <Tartaros> CapeFear: you usually don't separately install drivers in linux, it's so that either your kernel has a module for it, or it doesn't...
[17:49] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: sometimes wireless works better and works just like that,  in other distros, when it fails in Ubuntu
[17:49] <Altreus> So how do I get it to stop it because this is one of the reasons I don't use Windows and now Ubuntu is doing it
[17:49] <Mka1> CapeFear: there is an access point (AP) ?
[17:49] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: works better?  I meant just works
[17:49] <CapeFear> mka1 i'm not sure... how can i check that?
[17:50] <BluesKaj> Tartaros, some usb adapters and laptop wifi cards need to use a windows driver running in ndiswrapper
[17:50] <CapeFear> Tartaros do you think an earlier version, say 7.04 or 6.10, might "catch" my wireless?
[17:50] <easjr74> what is the software to burn multi boot dvd on linux?
[17:50] <Tartaros> Altreus: try Nautilus preferences?
[17:50] <easjr74> anyone can help?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: maybe,  but those versions aren't supported anymore
[17:50] <Mka1> CapeFear: you need to know authentication passwords and encryption type
[17:50] <Tartaros> CapeFear: I doubt that but also, are you sure your wireless is even on?
[17:50] <Awsoonn> How can I get my WPC11 Wireless card to see other networks?
[17:51] <nullp0inter> so i have a linksys wrt54gs router..cable modem, and i cant connect to the internet with my desktop running hardy heron..i can ping the router fine, but nothing external
[17:51] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: on the desktop
[17:51] <Awsoonn> ubntu 9.10 btw
[17:51] <CapeFear> well, i'm using it right now, Tartaros
[17:51] <sebsebseb> !eol |  CapeFear
[17:51] <Tartaros> CapeFear: what?
[17:51] <CapeFear> Tartaros - i'm using my wireless at the moment
[17:51] <Tartaros> CapeFear: so what's the problem?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Tartaros, he's on windows
[17:51] <Tartaros> duh
[17:51] <CapeFear> Tartaros - i'm under windows right now
[17:52] <CapeFear> :]
[17:52] <ronald> adahendra: i don't know how to follow this.
[17:52] <CapeFear> mka1 ... let me see if i can find out my encryption type
[17:52] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | CapeFear
[17:52] <lex_> Why change the libraries from one upgrade to another?
[17:53] <Tartaros> CapeFear: umm again, is it a card or a usb device?
[17:53] <Tartaros> CapeFear: also, desktop or notebook?
[17:53] <Mka1> CapeFear: go to Start -> then something like "connections" -> then "All Networks" or something like that
[17:53] <mezen> hello all, anyone knows how to fix this error : amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv
[17:53] <Altreus> Tartaros: yeah that's where it was. Exactly where I would have thought of looking :P
[17:53] <CapeFear> notebook, Tartaros
[17:53] <CapeFear> i think it's a card... i don't have any usb devices plugged in
[17:53] <CapeFear> mka1 10x
[17:53] <bucknasty> I'm searching for a bash script, which backups my mysql database + ftp files (on a remote mysql/ftp server). I want to execute the script on my Computer, and the files should be backuped on my Computer as well. Anybody got a nice script, would be awesome
[17:53] <Tartaros> Altreus: so problem solved or are you saying it still doesn't work?
[17:54] <szczypmen> hi everyone
[17:54] <nullp0inter> bucknasty i got something for you
[17:54] <Mka1> CapeFear: what?
[17:54] <nullp0inter> bucknasty: PM me
[17:54] <sebsebseb> szczypmen: hi
[17:54] <Tartaros> CapeFear: so I'd guess there's a fn-something shortcut that enables your wireless, right?
[17:54] <CapeFear> Tartaros, fn-something?
[17:55] <FDownloads> http://www.fontededownloads.com
[17:55] <CapeFear> i just use it.. it's there when my windows loads
[17:55] <Tartaros> CapeFear: also, I'd guess there's a LED indicator somewhere on your notebook
[17:55] <ronald> adahendra: on my volume control the opption is OSS mixer and pulseaudio mixer
[17:55] <Tartaros> CapeFear: fn, a special key usually found on notebook keyboards
[17:55] <mezen> sorry to repeat my question again !, anyone knows how to fix this error : amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv
[17:55] <Schalla> Guys? Somebody know what I can do if Xorg.0.log says libdri version = 5.0.0 but version 5.4.X is needed?
[17:55]  * fuorviatos isn't running iTunes currently.
[17:55] <CapeFear> Tartaros, yes, there's a little light on my laptop that blinks... it looks like a wireless symbol
[17:56] <CapeFear> Tartaros - i don't use the fn at all
[17:56] <JonathanEllis> penguin42: I am just writing up what we did to get the monitors working properly so others will be able to overcome this problem more easily. Is it worth including the xorg.0.log from when it wasnt working?
[17:56] <JoeSomebody> i tried ubuntu on a dell dimension e521 and it says i need drivers that are not free, i have never heard of that, but i am mainly a windows user until now, what's the deal?
[17:56] <kane77> just a quick shout.. I managed to get Rosetta Stone running in Ubuntu! :D
[17:56] <adahendra> @ronald : ok, i'll try to help for your audio device
[17:56] <easjr74> i have iso's images of some o.s. and need to put they on only dvd. how to do this on linux?
[17:56] <CapeFear> Tartaros i do have a slide on my computer, which is like a radio frequency catcher or whatever it's called..
[17:56] <ronald> okey
[17:56] <Tartaros> CapeFear: maybe it's just so that in windows your wireless is enabled by default, but in linux it's disabled by default, so you need to enable it.
[17:56] <CapeFear> a little physical slide on the thin side of my laptop
[17:57] <JonathanEllis> JoeSomebody: That will probably be your wifi drivers. Provided it works, dont worry about it. It just means the wifi driver is proprietary instead of open source
[17:57] <terinjokes> hey guys! i'm got a box connected via wifi to the internet, and i want to share the connection with my workgroup. the desktop has a connection to the server, and was issued an IP by dhcpd3, but the desktop does *not* have a connection to the internet... any ideas?
[17:57] <CapeFear> Tartaros is there any way i can check if i will ever be able to enable it? i don't want to waste my time if i will never ever be able to use the internet on this computer, if you understand me
[17:57] <mzawieska> hello guys
[17:57] <Tartaros> CapeFear: yeah I know what you mean but I'd still say that there's a fn-shortcut for it. Look for some kind of wireless symbol on your keyboard :)
[17:57] <JoeSomebody> JonathanEllis my video was only 800 x 600 , i figured it was that
[17:58] <CapeFear> Tartaros - i think i see it
[17:58] <BluesKaj> JoeSomebody, nonfree plugins maybe...what are trying to fix ?
[17:58] <Tartaros> CapeFear: yes I understand, the live CD boot is the way to test things
[17:58] <CapeFear> it looks like a small triangle, which has ((   and   )) on its sides
[17:58] <mzawieska> I am looking for program that i can put the titles of my movies because I have so many movies..in alphabetical order also I could put description to it etc?
[17:58] <Mka1> CapeFear: as long as you shut down windows without disabling the Wi-Fi physical lock, everything is fine
[17:58] <JonathanEllis> JoeSomebody: Could be but I would be surprised.
[17:58] <CapeFear> like this:      (( /\ ))
[17:58] <Tartaros> CapeFear: great so try it now, it could disconnect you :)
[17:58] <alazyworkaholic> Are there "classic vs Debian" installation methods?
[17:58] <Tartaros> CapeFear: and then try it when you're on the linux
[17:59] <kane77> mzawieska, gcstar or something like that
[17:59] <CapeFear> to see if this symbol blinks?
[17:59] <JoeSomebody> right after the install i have only 800 x 600, for one, how do i check the hardware out like with device mgr in windows?
[17:59] <JoeSomebody> is there a similar thing?
[17:59] <Wolfcastle> hello
[17:59] <sebsebseb> !piracy > mzawieska
[17:59] <Wolfcastle> I reported a bug about npviewer.bin crashing
[17:59] <GhotiPhud> #list
[17:59] <Ohlawdy> I'm trying to ping/nmap other computers in my wireless LAN but both say they are down
[17:59] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I start bluetooth service on Kamic?
[17:59] <Wolfcastle> and I got a response saying some of my packages are outdated...
[18:00] <Tartaros> CapeFear: what do you mean blinks, it's on a key right? so you need to press it with the fn key
[18:00] <KurtKraut> Firestarter (firewall) is a discontinued software. What software packaged to Ubuntu could replace it? I'm not asking for a general firewall software. I'd like something that does what firestarter does: pop up a tray icon when something is blocked on firewall.
[18:00] <Wolfcastle> how is this possible? I'm using karmic and everything seems up to date
[18:00] <Tartaros> and now I locked my keyboard, duh
[18:00] <Enigmocracy> update manager tells some of the updates cannot be authenticated, They're still ok though, right?
[18:00] <CapeFear> Tartaros no, i just have a small little symbol which blinks.... hold on 5 mins and i'll show you
[18:00] <BluesKaj> JoeSomebody, open a terminal and type or copy and paste this : grep driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:00] <[TK]D-Fender> Quick question having upgraded to 9.10 : Where did the app to personalize Gnome user rights (like for mounting local partitions, etc) go?
[18:00] <Mike_lifeguard> Enigmocracy: Are they from a PPA?
[18:00] <Mka1> CapeFear, I will be back, have to reboot
[18:00] <CapeFear> by the way Mka1, i found my settings for the wireless.... Network Authentication is WPA, Data encyrption is TKIP
[18:01] <CapeFear> argh he left...
[18:01] <Tartaros> anyone know how can a usb keyboard stop working suddenly (I may have pressed caps lock or somthing) now I type on a tiny notebook keyboard
[18:01] <CapeFear> ;)
[18:01] <Enigmocracy> Mike_lifeguard: er, I dunno, I just ran update manager.
[18:01] <Tartaros> CapeFear: what notebook type do you have?
[18:01] <alazyworkaholic> I'm trying to make sense of forum post from someone who knows what to do to fix a problem but insists that I find out how to do it the hard way. What's the difference between "classical" & "debian" installation methods.
[18:01] <CapeFear> thinkpad  ...  t61  i think
[18:01] <CapeFear> ;)
[18:01] <CapeFear> either t61 or t60
[18:01] <Mike_lifeguard> Enigmocracy: in a terminal, do 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[18:01] <XiXaQ> Does Ubuntu DVD contain Lxde, Xfce and Kde as well?
[18:01] <baltadt> how do you change the write permission of a folder
[18:02] <Mike_lifeguard> baltadt: man chmod
[18:02] <ellar> hello, i'm trying to make an UNR 9.10 live usb, but with usb-creator and unetbootin after selecting live system on grub start i get the animated white icon and it says init line i cannot open /dev/sr0! but i want to boot from usb (dev/sdb) and not from cd!
[18:02] <Altreus> Tartaros: It worked fine, it is just a stupid place to put the option when there is a whole menu item under Preferences devoted to exactly this
[18:02] <Altreus> In fact it seems like a duplication of functionality.
[18:02] <Altreus> not the unix way :P
[18:03] <Tartaros> Altreus: well if its nautilus that does it, it"s in nautilus preferences, anyway glad i COULD HELP :D
[18:03] <IdleOne> I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/313477/ . I changed the sources but continue to get it. any ideas?
[18:03] <Tartaros> oh and sorry for the caps, keyboard is being funny
[18:03] <Enigmocracy> Mike_lifeguard: Alright, now what?
[18:03] <Altreus> I didn't know it was nautilus that did it :( I don't even use nautilus
[18:03] <lilyshu> hi, im downloding ubuntu moblin remix, eta 30 mins.. what is the method to install gstreamer plugins? is this just the same as in ubuntu desktop?
[18:03] <muszek> hi... AFAIR there was some "easy email server installation" package in Ubuntu, introduced in Jaunty or Intrepid.  I can't find it... Can someone please point me in its direction?  All I need is to send emails from PHP scripts.
[18:03] <Mike_lifeguard> Enigmocracy: try again
[18:04] <Tartaros> Altreus: well you probably do, it usually runs in background, but you could probably get rid of it (nautilus -q or something if necessary)
[18:04] <hikenboot> hello can anyone recommend parental controls for a ubuntu 9.10 box? somthing with a gui so after I leave so the parents will be able to configure it
[18:05] <Altreus> Tartaros: Sure - it runs like Windows Explorer runs, but I don't use it as the file browser is what I meant, so I would have had no idea that it was responsible for launching a completely different app :(
[18:05] <Tartaros> hikenboot: best parental control is parental presence, tell them that :P
[18:05] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: I am not sure if there is anything for Ubuntu, but Mandriva another Linux distro has in built parantel controls
[18:05] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: A file can be edited though so  not all websites can be accessed, but I don't know how to do that
[18:05] <hikenboot> yes the hosts file
[18:06] <hikenboot> but I was hoping for a gui for them ...
[18:06] <mataks> need help i just upgrade to karmic koala and after i finish the upgrade i can't hear any audio anymore.
[18:06] <Altreus> anywho it has stopped so that's cool
[18:06] <sebsebseb> mataks: Audio worked fine in 9.04 I assume?  Many people have had problems after upgrading 9.04 to 9.10.
[18:06] <Altreus> . o ( Maybe removable media in Preferences should tell Nautilus what to do as well )
[18:07] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: yep that file
[18:07] <mataks> sebsebseb: yes, audio worked fine in my previous version 9.04
[18:07] <JoeSomebody> BluesKaj and then? i do not understand this cryptic stuff yet
[18:08] <dAlfa89_> Oh my god, it's taken me ALL this time to realise that the Ubuntu version numbers relate to their release date
[18:08] <shredder12> Hi was trying to install libdnet library but while installing it asked for "DECnet node address" what's that and how do i find it out??
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> hikenboot:  using the 'opendns' service you can also block a lot of.. err.. things kids shouldent be seeing :)
[18:08] <forceflow> dAlfa89_: haha
[18:08] <sebsebseb> mataks: You can  1.  try and configure it good luck   2.  Clean install 9.10  and hope it works  3.  after 2 or if not bothering with  2,  put 9.04 back on
[18:08] <alazyworkaholic> Would anyone mind taking a look at this package modification problem @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8270817#post8270817
[18:08] <joaopinto> shredder12, read the library documentation and google for it :)
[18:08] <Enigmocracy> Mike_lifeguard: Still giving me this message: http://imgur.com/62GWA.png
[18:08] <sebsebseb> mataks: You can also try other distros of course.
[18:08] <mataks> sebsebseb, how to confiure it?
[18:09] <Muhammad> ubuntu-ppc
[18:09] <joaopinto> mataks, please check your kernel version: uname -a
[18:09] <sebsebseb> mataks: I don't  do sound issues normalley :)
[18:09] <sebsebseb> !sound |  mataks
[18:09] <hikenboot> thanks guys
[18:10] <mataks> joaopinto, my ubuntu version is Linux mataks-desktop 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:10] <forceflow> Got a question: in GRUB, it still says Karmic development version in my kernel list. Is this normal?
[18:10] <joaopinto> mataks, ok, the problem is that you are booting from the wrong kernel, there is a bug reported about that
[18:10] <sebsebseb> forceflow: Clean install or upgrade?
[18:10] <forceflow> sebsebseb: upgrade to beta :)
[18:10] <sebsebseb> forceflow: upgrades from beta ok
[18:10] <joaopinto> sebsebseb, if you are not familiar with the Karmic sound issues please do not reply, that will just get the user frustrated
[18:10] <sebsebseb> forceflow: well that would explain it,  is it normal though hmm,  probably not really
[18:10] <BluesKaj> JoeSomebody, it tells you if you have a nvidia or ati or intel driver installed
[18:10] <joaopinto> mataks, run: sudo update-grub
[18:11] <forceflow> sebsebseb: what can I do to fix it?
[18:11] <joaopinto> mataks, theb reboot, you are expected to be running a 2.6.31.* kernel
[18:11] <lilyshu> hi, im downloding ubuntu moblin remix, eta 30 mins.. what is the method to install gstreamer plugins? is this just the same as in ubuntu desktop?
[18:11] <mataks> joaopinto,  ok thnx i'll try
[18:11] <joaopinto> mataks, it's an upgrade bug :\
[18:11] <sebsebseb> forceflow: You can edit the  file for Grub and make it not say that, but that's not really a proper fix.   Also by the way to make sure you have the proper final, you need to clean install really.
[18:11] <forceflow> sebsebseb: aha, an update was released with kernem 2.6.31-15.49 (new install)
[18:11] <Tartaros> forceflow: as joaopinto just said, try sudo update-grub
[18:11] <JoeSomebody> nvidia
[18:12] <mataks> joaopinto, k, im about to restart now..
[18:12] <sebsebseb> forceflow: any older kernels will be  there in Grub as well, untill something is done about them
[18:12] <sebsebseb> forceflow: they will also be installed
[18:12] <joaopinto> sebsebseb, you dont need to clearn install to have the final !
[18:12] <joaopinto> !final | sebsebseb
[18:12] <sebsebseb> joaopinto: well sure, but you can't quarranttee that you have the proper final
[18:12] <Tartaros> joaopinto: what's meant by "clean install"?
[18:13] <sleed> hello
[18:13] <JoeSomebody> but what good does that do me? i dont know anything about drivers in linux, just windows
[18:13] <joaopinto> sebsebseb, yes you can, that is how upgrades work
[18:13] <sleed> I totally screwed up the karmic koala upgrade and I need to reinstall ubuntu
[18:13] <sebsebseb> joaopinto: when applying upgrades from development versions, upgrades not always install properly
[18:13] <xman> can anyone help in oracle 9i logging in problem??? it gives me the ERROR: ORA-560 TNS:protocol adapter error.........
[18:13] <joaopinto> Tartaros, a fresh install, instead of an upgrade
[18:13] <sleed> is there a way to export a list of the installed packages via chroot?
[18:13] <Tartaros> joaopinto: I dont understand, so when you upgrade you get a differenc kernel?
[18:14] <joaopinto> sebsebseb, upgrade mail fails on unplanned circunstances, that does not invalited the upgrade process as recommended
[18:14] <Enigmocracy> Is seeing this message when I run update manager anything to worry about? http://imgur.com/62GWA.png
[18:14] <sebsebseb> joaopinto: I have been testing Karmic since alpha 4,  I haven't done the final just yet, and oh yes I need to really.  I still have boot up issues for example.   So no it's not just as simple as  upgrading from a development version, that is not how it works.   With the beta it might,  with alphas nah.
[18:14] <joaopinto> and that will not make your system "non final"
[18:14] <JoeSomebody> where is the device manager and drivers thing? nowhere?
[18:14] <ronald> joaopinto: do you have idea of this problem.i use 9.04 then i don't have audio sound..
[18:14] <joaopinto> sebsebseb, your statement is incorrect, you may get issues from the upgrades, that does not invalidate the fact that you are running the final version,
[18:14] <CapeFear> Tartaros, see this http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/4086779346_3e7df53f6b_b.jpg
[18:14] <joaopinto> ronald, on the terminal run: uname -a
[18:15] <Tartaros> JoeSomebody: try installing "sysinfo", it tells you what hardware you have... but I dunno what's your problem anyway :)
[18:15] <Schalla> Somebody got too problems with 9.10 and ubuntu?
[18:15] <Schalla> *gnome
[18:15] <CapeFear> and http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2739/4086782234_8404db222e_b.jpg Tartaros
[18:15] <sleed> schalla i killed my whole system during upgrade
[18:15] <CapeFear> that's what i meant by the blinking symbol :)
[18:15] <Araneidae> My Ubuntu upgrade has forgotten my network printer, and I can't find it!
[18:15] <Schalla> Great, I killed the whole GUI.
[18:15] <Tartaros> CapeFear: well the images aren't exactly sharp
[18:15] <Schalla> Can't start Gnome
[18:15] <CapeFear> Tartaros sorry
[18:15] <ronald> joaopinto: Linux ronald-laptop 2.6.28-16-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 20 19:48:24 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:16] <Tartaros> CapeFear: anyway, what notebook type do youi have?
[18:16] <Araneidae> I'm at http://localhost:631/admin/ on the Add Printer page, and my Network Printer isn't there...
[18:16] <sleed> schalla: try to reconfigure gnome in console mode
[18:16] <joaopinto> ronald, you running the wrong kernel version, you need to run: sudo update-grub
[18:16] <joaopinto> ronald, then reboot
[18:16] <CapeFear> Tartaros thinkpad, t60 or t61
[18:16] <Araneidae> What now?
[18:16] <Schalla> Reinstalled xorg, reinstalled ubuntu-desktop
[18:16] <Tartaros> "or"?
[18:16] <mataks> joaopinto, i try to "sudo update-grub" and restart but still i have no audio... and on my boot menu there's no 9.10 it's still 9.04.. why is that?
[18:16] <Schalla> ...nothing wiorks
[18:16] <mataks> !sound
[18:16] <ronald> okey
[18:16] <Tartaros> CapeFear: how do you have "60 or 61"? :)
[18:16] <Araneidae> !printing
[18:16] <kurakuska> hallo
[18:17] <Tartaros> !hi | kurakuska
[18:17] <sebsebseb> joaopinto: I coudn't even just get the last lot of updates since it woudn't let me download them, but  whatever  not that long now, and  I will be doing a nice clean install.  Oh I might be able to change where it is getting updates from and then get them, but  I can't be bothered, since will be clean installing anyway.
[18:17] <kurakuska> what's italian ubuntu channel
[18:17] <joaopinto> mataks, grub is failling to detct the new kernel
[18:17] <Tartaros> !it | kurakuska
[18:17] <blood> Ive created a Ext3 file system on a second hard drive so that i can install LFS however im a little noobish. My problem is that the second hard drive is not registering after i format the new Ext3 file system. If anyone could help me with this issue please PM me. thanks.
[18:17] <mataks> joaopinto,  how to resolve it?
[18:17] <kurakuska> thanks
[18:18] <sebsebseb> joaopinto: According to what you were saying this install is probably the beta.
[18:18] <IdleOne> I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/313477/ . I changed the sources but continue to get it. any ideas?
[18:18] <JoeSomebody> system , admin, hardware drivers is the answer i was looking for
[18:18] <Tartaros> blood: don't expect a PM, stuff is being talked about here. Anyway where and how exactly is it "not registered"?
[18:19] <CapeFear> Tartaros it's t60, i think
[18:19] <CapeFear> there is very little diff beween t60 and t61 though
[18:19] <CapeFear> my memory is tricking me ;-)
[18:21] <JoeSomebody> using system , admin, hardware drivers to update nvidia video, i assume that is a correct way?
[18:21] <kurakuska> hallo
[18:21] <usser> howdy
[18:21] <kurakuska> i hav a problem
[18:21] <xman> can anyone help in oracle 9i logging in problem??? it gives me the ERROR: ORA-560 TNS:protocol adapter error.........
[18:21] <russlar> CapeFear: what's the issue you're having with your t-series?
[18:21] <kurakuska> w
[18:21] <usser> wha the problem be
[18:22] <epinky> !help
[18:22] <ibou> i can't write on dvd with k3b. I have this message: mkisofs crashed. Can anyone help?
[18:22] <CapeFear> russlar i don't have wireless with my livecd ... i am afraid i won't have wireless when i install ubuntu (i'm on windows right now)
[18:22] <Roasted> Does anybody have experience installing ebox to manage an ubuntu server?
[18:22] <kurakuska> usser can yuo help me in the istallation of huawei e 169 on xubuntu 9.4
[18:22] <russlar> CapeFear: which wireless card do you have?
[18:23] <usser> kurakuska, is it one of those 3g cell phone chips?
[18:23] <[TK]D-Fender> Sorry to repeat... torrent of other chat since my earlier request.  Quick question having upgraded to 9.10 : Where did the app to personalize Gnome user rights (like for mounting local partitions, etc) go?
[18:23] <juro> hi, in 9.10, is there a system usage monitor for the system-tray area?
[18:23] <CapeFear> russlar 3g
[18:23] <Tartaros> juro: system monitor applet
[18:23] <russlar> CapeFear: thinkwiki.org is a very good resourse for linux on thinkpads, I did my first install (gutsy on a t61) completely from that site's info
[18:23] <russlar> CapeFear: oh, that
[18:23] <CapeFear> ooopos russlar sorry
[18:23] <russlar> CapeFear: not a wlan card, but a wwan card?
[18:24] <kurakuska> no. it is usb modem 3g
[18:24] <usser> juro, you can use conky instead of littering your panel
[18:24] <usser> kurakuska, what phone company is it from?
[18:24] <bam_> does someone know how to connect with a netware network?, because if i connect with a windows box it ask for a username and password.. but if i connect in linux it ask for a basic wep key
[18:24] <CapeFear> russlar i'm not really sure actually what my card is... do you know where i can check that?
[18:24] <russlar> CapeFear: lspci
[18:25] <juro> usser, why littering?
[18:25] <juro> Tartaros, thank you
[18:25] <Chazz> Anyone know what the pass to the livecd's user is?
[18:25] <CapeFear> russlar: lspci?
[18:25] <russlar> CapeFear: boot to the live cd, pull up a terminal, and run that. you might need to use sude
[18:25] <mka> CapeFear: are you still in windows?
[18:25] <Tartaros> juro: np
[18:25] <russlar> CapeFear: *sudo
[18:25] <kurakuska> it's a italian company 3g
[18:25] <CapeFear> mka yes
[18:25] <usser> juro, do you really need that kind of info on your panel?
[18:25] <MenZa> Chazz: There is no password.
[18:25] <CapeFear> mka i found my specs..
[18:25] <ivanb> i am trying to set up some folder persmissions so that everyone can read and write to it... what am I doing wrong?
[18:25] <russlar> !lspci
[18:25] <ivanb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/313493/
[18:25] <Chazz> ok
[18:25] <usser> kurakuska, oh, ok. thought it was russian. they use same hardware there. what happens when you plug it in?
[18:25] <papapep> Chazz: you can set it with sudo passwd
[18:26] <mka> CapeFear: good
[18:26] <Chazz> papapep, ok, ty.
[18:26] <MenZa> papapep: Why would he need to?
[18:26] <linkmaster03> how do I list the files provided by a given package?
[18:26] <mka> CapeFear: now what are you waiting for?
[18:26] <CapeFear> mka my network authentication is WPA, and my data encryption is TKIP
[18:26] <russlar> CapeFear: check thinkwiki.org for info on installing on your model
[18:26] <papapep> MenZa: it works without setting it?
[18:26] <MenZa> papapep: yes...
[18:26] <CapeFear> russlar thank you ;)
[18:26] <Doorman352> CapeFear:  Might also try sudo lshw
[18:26] <russlar> CapeFear: odds are, someone else had that exact issue
[18:26] <audiosphere> Hello People
[18:26] <CapeFear> i don't know how to pull up the terminal though
[18:26] <mka> CapeFear: are you using any password to connect? you need to remember it as well
[18:26] <G_A_C> ivanb: it looks like although you're setting 777 on the data directory itself, you also need to do something about the folders which already exist
[18:26] <juro> usser, yes - my system tends to freeze here and there and then I like to know why
[18:27] <CapeFear> mka yes i know the password
[18:27] <MenZa> CapeFear: If you're in X, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[18:27] <mka> CapeFear: good
[18:27] <mezen> hello anyone know how to fix this error ? "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv". It happens when I run amarok or qtconfig-qt4 on ubuntu 9.10
[18:27] <ivanb> G_A_C: I also tried to put a -R in there, it didn't work
[18:27] <CapeFear> should i be able to set up the wireless, knowing my authentication, encryption & password?
[18:27] <kurakuska> nothing
[18:27] <Jeruvy> linkmaster03: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:27] <mka> CapeFear: terminal is <ALT>+F2 then type "gnome-terminal"
[18:27] <CapeFear> mka ^
[18:27] <CapeFear> ok
[18:27] <usser> juro, if your keyboard still works when it freezes you can do Ctrl+alt+f1 login and run top
[18:27] <CapeFear> i'll write this down on a piece of paper :)
[18:27] <mka> CapeFear: you need to know about the hardware as well
[18:28] <audiosphere> I only wanted to let you know about my rock blog: http://audiosphere.org
[18:28] <usser> kurakuska, open terminal plug it in and run dmesg, pastebin the output
[18:28] <juro> usser,  not very visual is it ;)
[18:28] <linkmaster03> Jeruvy: i'm looking for a command where i can type the name of an installed package, and it will list all the files provided by the package
[18:28] <kavurt> what's the best opensource pdf editor?
[18:28] <usser> !pastebin | kurakuska
[18:28] <mka> CapeFear: that is, the type of wifi card you are using
[18:28] <russlar> !spam
[18:28] <audiosphere> no spam
[18:28] <G_A_C> ivanb: that's probably because you're not root; because root is the curent owner you need to get root to extend permissions to everyone else. use "sudo chmod -R 777 /data" or similar
[18:28] <CapeFear> so when i get to the terminal, i just type       lspci           and that's all?
[18:28] <CapeFear> mka
[18:28] <mka> CapeFear: There are notorious cards and friendly ones
[18:28] <MenZa> kavurt: a) !best, b) What sort of editing are you talking about?
[18:28] <CapeFear> lol
[18:28] <ronald> adahenda: do u have now idea?
[18:28] <MenZa> kavurt: PDFs can contain vector graphics, text, and raster graphics. Which part are you talking about?
[18:28] <mka> CapeFear: lspci will give you information about the type of card you are having
[18:28] <kavurt> MenZa: filling forms
[18:29] <usser> juro, top is pretty visual, you'll see the process(es) thats hogging up cpu/memory. its better than relying on the gui anyway, since when your x freezes i doubt that panel will keep functioning
[18:29] <CapeFear> okie
[18:29] <Roasted> Does anybody have experience installing ebox to manage an ubuntu server?
[18:29] <MenZa> kavurt: Scribus might be able to do it.
[18:29] <eddym> can any1 help me out with this 1 not sure how to do this http://pastebin.com/d5d51b6fb
[18:29] <CapeFear> well... i'm going to reboot now then!
[18:29] <ronald> adahenda: do you have now idea?
[18:29] <MenZa> !anyone | Roasted
[18:29] <juro> usser, I know top
[18:29] <usser> juro, you can also htop for more user friendly interface
[18:29] <wales> help! i accidentaly typed "mv /*/*" how do i revert what was moved?
[18:29] <azlon> can i tether my iphone and ubuntu using wifi?
[18:29] <mka> CapeFear: you can also pull up Terminal by clicking Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[18:30] <Roasted> Menza - well, to be more precise. I can't get it to work, haa? I just can't get connected after installing. Very broad, I know, but that's as pinpointed as I can go.
[18:30] <juro> usser, I just need a small visual indicator as to whether the cpus are 100% or not
[18:30] <kurakuska> ok but i return in xubuntu
[18:30] <MenZa> azlon: I believe you can, with applications from the AppStore itself, which will create an Ad Hoc net work from the iPhone itself. Then you can use your Ubuntu box to connect to that, but as I haven't had an iPhone for 4 months now, the name of it escapes me.
[18:30] <kurakuska> goodbye
[18:30] <Roasted> So with that being said, QUESTION - Does anybody have ebox currently running on their ubuntu server? I cannot figure out how to connect to the IP. It didnt prompt me during the install but the how to guide says it should have.
[18:30] <usser> juro, ok. still take a look at conky
[18:30] <LaireTM> Hello, when i connect my Windows Mobil Phone to Ubuntu, it creates a new network connection but how i can copy files to the phone?
[18:30] <MenZa> juro: do 'uptime' the load will show.
[18:30] <azlon> MenZa: can i create an adhoc with ubuntu then connect the iphone to it>
[18:30] <azlon> ?
[18:31] <MenZa> azlon: theoretically, sure.
[18:31] <CapeFear> mka thank you.. be right back.
[18:31] <juro> usser, I shall, thank you
[18:31] <wales> is there a way to revert the changes a mv command just made?
[18:31] <MenZa> wales: not other than move the things back.
[18:31] <Jeruvy> wales: reverse the parameters
[18:31] <Awsoonn_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/47857 <- help please?
[18:31] <usser> wales, technically that command should not even execute its missing a parameter
[18:31] <Ben64> Hey, occasionally, my computer freezes, and I don't see any logs showing what happened.. How can I diagnose it?
[18:31] <usser> wales, mv /*/* you said it was?
[18:31] <wales> the missing parameter was music
[18:31] <wales> so i almost moved root to my music :)
[18:32] <usser> wales, did you run it as sudo?
[18:32] <wales> but i didnt have permission for the important studd
[18:32] <digitalstimulus> wales, nautilus? :)
[18:32] <MenZa> Awsoonn_: You need help with a three year-old bug in Launchpad?
[18:32] <mka> Ben64: are you using some CPU intensive applications?
[18:32] <usser> wales, how long was the command running for before ctrl+c it?
[18:32] <Ben64> mka: nope
[18:32] <wales> it just spat out a lot of errors for not having permission
[18:32] <mka> Ben64: are you using GNOME or KDE?
[18:32] <wales> with me wildly ctrl+c ing
[18:32] <Awsoonn_> add a 2 to the end of that url.. sry :)
[18:32] <Awsoonn_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478572
[18:33] <Ben64> froze last night like 3 times, once when in firefox, twice while copying files from hd to hd
[18:33] <mka> Ben64: not even Beagle?
[18:33] <Araneidae> Can anyone help me with CUPS configuration?  Can't connect to my printer after my 9.04 -> 9.10 upgrade anymore
[18:33] <Ben64> mka: gnome
[18:33] <Ben64> mka: dunno what beagle is : /
[18:33] <usser> wales, it should be fine. as long as you terminated right away, it didnt get to stuff to which you have permissions
[18:33] <mka> Ben64: try monitoring "top"
[18:33] <ianto> wales: Check your PM :)
[18:33] <MenZa> Awsoonn_: It's an unresolved bug. There's not really much to be done other than wait for someone to submit a patch for it.
[18:33] <duffydack> Ben64, are you using wireless?
[18:33] <usser> wales, which is only your /home folder, and /tmp. /tmp is not important and as long as everything is in place in your home folder you should be ok
[18:33] <wales> usser: it looks like it managed to move some random stuff tho
[18:33] <mka> Ben64: and check your whether you have enough swap
[18:33] <MenZa> Awsoonn_: You may want to press 'Does this bug affect you?', though
[18:34] <Ben64> mka: i have a cpu usage monitor in my panel
[18:34] <boscop> can someone please highlight me?
[18:34] <Ben64> duffydack: technically, yes. but ubuntu doesn't know it
[18:34] <Ben64> boscop: sup
[18:34] <mka> Ben64: I dont like it, I think it is CPU intensive too!
[18:34] <usser> wales, like what? any .conf files in your music folder?
[18:34] <MenZa> boscop: Yes. For future reference, please use ##test for this sort of thing.
[18:34] <usser> boscop, highlighted
[18:34] <sebsebseb> boscop: highlight
[18:34] <Awsoonn_> MenZa: I just submitted it myself and am looking for some help, I thought it would be easier to just point to my bug report than to restate everything
[18:35] <duffydack> Ben64, are you using wireless or not
[18:35] <mka> Ben64: As long as you are in touch with running apps, you can never tell whats chowing your CPU time
[18:35] <Ben64> well I idle at 1.3% cpu, at scaled down speed, 1Ghz
[18:35] <duffydack> Ben64, I`m just checking its not the same bug in network-manager I found when installing 9.10 for a friend..
[18:35] <Ben64> duffydack: I'm wired to a WRT54G, which acts like a bridge, and connects wirelessly to my other router
[18:35] <Ben64> btw, I'm on 8.04
[18:36] <duffydack> Ben64, ok
[18:36] <Ben64> mka: and it's not like cpu is too high, and slows system
[18:36] <Ben64> it just locks up totally
[18:36] <mka> Ben64: Wow
[18:36] <fox001> I can't get KWin's compositing enabled at startup, I have to press alt-shift-f12 twice to get it running again, can anyone help?
[18:36] <Ben64> mka: wow what?
[18:36] <duffydack> Ben64, does alt+sysrq RSEIUB work when locked?
[18:37] <mka> Ben64: Im suprised
[18:37] <Ben64> duffydack: it's never worked for me any other time, so dunno, never tried
[18:37] <duffydack> Ben64, setup a ssh server on your machine then, and maybe you can ssh in and look at processes etc when its "locked"
[18:37] <vertic4l> hey there!
[18:37] <wales> usser: this is what i get from ls -a http://cl1p.net/wales/mv
[18:37] <Ben64> I doubt that'll work, since I don't even have log files from when it locks up
[18:38] <duffydack> Ben64, there is an app tho to log stuff for debugging such things tho.. I forget its name
[18:38] <baltadt> Has anyone ever used drupal?
[18:38] <duffydack> Ben64, that might be just the GUI locking... might be able to network in still.
[18:38] <TheInfinity> balans: <--
[18:38] <fox001> ****I can't get KWin's compositing enabled at startup, I have to press alt-shift-f12 twice to get it running again, can anyone help?****
[18:38] <Ben64> duffydack: well i tried CTRL+ALT+F1 and stuff
[18:38] <ChogyDan> baltadt: o/
[18:39] <eddym> i need to resolve an issue with my webcam here are the steps can som1 help me out :-/ http://pastebin.com/d3894bea0
[18:39] <duffydack> Ben64, yeah keyboard+mouse and gui locking doesnt mean its completely locked..  try it
[18:39] <TheInfinity> i meant baltadt <--
[18:39] <Ben64> duffydack: yeah i will, just trying to get the most options
[18:40] <baltadt> ChonyDan: you don't like it
[18:40] <baltadt> ChonyDan: you don't like it
[18:40] <janisoza1r> is it possible to access .vdi virtualbox disk image file without firing up virtual machine?
[18:40] <vertic4l> i got a problem with libxml-sax-perl and libxml-simple-perl whenever i try to get updates or installing something with apt-get
[18:40] <fox001> does anyone know how to install bitstream fonts??
[18:40] <vertic4l> anyone got an idea?
[18:41] <fox001> does anyone know how to install bitstream fonts??
[18:41] <fox001> ****I can't get KWin's compositing enabled at startup, I have to press alt-shift-f12 twice to get it running again, can anyone help?****
[18:41] <aaron> hi I'm having trouble deleting a user account in ubuntu 9.10, I go system -> administration -> Users & Groups and delete the user, but when i reboot the user is still there...
[18:41] <usser> wales, hm it looks like its mostly stuff from /dev/ and /proc, some device files to which you had permissions, the contents of /dev/ and /proc are regenerad at restart. but there might be something else. unfortunately theres no way to reverse a mv command. so all you can do is restart and hope for the best i guess
[18:41] <duffydack> Ben64, ruled out compiz?
[18:41] <Ben64> duffydack: don't run it :)
[18:42] <Ben64> my computer is kinda slow for things like that
[18:42] <russlar> aaron: if you're up to it, you can manually remove the user from /etc/passwd
[18:42] <Ben64> AMD64 3200+, 2GB ram, geforce 6800
[18:42] <BlessJah> why on 9.04 newest awesome is 2.3.4-1 (currently on web page is about 2.4)
[18:42] <BlessJah> *currently 3.4
[18:42] <janisoza1r> !old | BlessJah
[18:42] <duffydack> Ben64, compiz doesnt need that much to run nice.. my 3.2 P4, 1gig ram and radeon 9800 is smooth as silk
[18:43] <fox001> my fonts suck, I don't know why, is there a way to reset font settings or do I have to reinstall?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> you can always reset your users settings
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> reinstalling for trivial things like that is windows thinking
[18:43] <Ben64> duffydack: my cpu is really getting dated though, i'm sure your p4 owns me
[18:43] <fox001> I deleted the ~/.font.conf file but it just got worse
[18:43] <mka> aaron: use "sudo userdel username"
[18:44] <mka> aaron: check "man userdel" and "man "deluser"
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> what fonts are you refering to fox001 ?
[18:44] <fox001> it started to use mscorefonts for everything, which I installed before
[18:44] <kavurt> scribus cannot open my PDF files. says: xxx.pdf is not an acceptable format. what's wrong?
[18:44] <BlessJah> so why is it so old?
[18:44] <fox001> Dr_Willis, especially firefox fonts are blurry
[18:45] <fox001> Dr_Willis, they tire my eyes so quickly
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> make a new user see if it affects them also perhaps.
[18:45] <duffydack> fox001, liberation font in gnome and FF FTW
[18:46] <duffydack> fox001, is smoothing enabled?  played around with different settings
[18:46] <mka> kavurt: why do you want to open PDF files with scribus?
[18:46] <kavurt> mka: I want to fill forms
[18:46] <isolat3dsh33p> hello guys, i have downloaded an ati driver from this http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.5&lang=English . My question is, how can i install it?
[18:47] <mka> kavurt: what about acroread?
[18:47] <fox001> duffydack, no I don't have smoothing enabled.
[18:47] <kavurt> mka: I'll try thanks
[18:47] <mka> kavurt: you need medibuntu repositories
[18:47] <fox001> ill try somethings and get back thanks
[18:47] <russlar> isolat3dsh33p: check wiki.cchtml.com
[18:47] <stinger05> hi there, does Empathy work with voice and cam on the msn protocol ?
[18:48] <isolat3dsh33p> russlar, thanks :)
[18:48] <russlar> isolat3dsh33p: or do this: open up a terminal, cd indo the directory you downloaded the package to
[18:48] <ZykoticK9> mka, kavurt actually acroread is in the "partner" repo as well
[18:48] <baltadt> what complaints does anyone have with Drupal
[18:48] <mka> ZykoticK9: hmmm, ok, thanks
[18:49] <isolat3dsh33p> russlar, done, what next?
[18:49] <BlessJah> is it safe to replace jaunty with karmic on 9.04?
[18:49] <russlar> isolat3dsh33p: then do exactly this: chmod +x file_you_downloaded && sudo ./file_you_downloaded
[18:49] <kavurt> ZykoticK9: is partner added by default?
[18:49] <BlessJah> without upgradind whole system?
[18:49] <ZykoticK9> kavurt, nope
[18:49] <om26er> BlessJah: yes and 9.04 is jaunty
[18:49] <Wazzzaaa> Hi, I just installed java. When I try to run java I get: "error in opening JAR file jre/lib/rt.jar". Any ideas how to solve this?
[18:49] <fda> Using Karmic and trying to get files from a windows mobile 5 with synce.
[18:49] <russlar> isolat3dsh33p: that will run the installer
[18:49] <BlessJah> om26er: i know, so i can use packages from karmic?
[18:50] <russlar> isolat3dsh33p: when that finishes, open up a new terminal, then run sudo aticonfig --inital -f
[18:50] <BlessJah> om26er: is it 100% safe?
[18:50] <om26er> BlessJah: you can do update-manager -d and upgrade or better make a clean install
[18:50] <Ioneye> Can someone tell me a good program that can translate HEX to ascii and the opposite?
[18:50] <BlessJah> om26er: i have slow internet connection
[18:50] <om26er> BlessJah: upgrading is not 100% safe
[18:50] <BlessJah> om26er: i know about problems with upgrade
[18:51] <om26er> BlessJah: people get many problems after upgrade
[18:51] <baltadt> fda: been trying to do the same with 6.1 and no luck so far
[18:51] <BlessJah> om26er: i want only to use some packages from karmic
[18:51] <wales> usser: thanks, in theory it should work, im taking system down for a reboot to see what happens :)
[18:51] <cfedde> 9.10 doing odd things on thinkpad r50
[18:51] <om26er> BlessJah: some packages like?
[18:51] <BlessJah> om26er: awesome
[18:51] <fda> baltadt, "nautilus cannot handle synce locations" ?
[18:51] <BlessJah> om26er: awesome 3.4 instead of 2.3.4 on jaunty
[18:52] <BlessJah> om26er: but awesome 3.4 has deps, packages newer than in jaunty repo
[18:52] <baltadt> fda: mine won't even see it
[18:52] <om26er> BlessJah: yes you can add the karmic repo. but there will also be many dependency problems with many apps
[18:52] <fda> too bad
[18:52] <BlessJah> om26er: bad... and awesome 2.3 is very old
[18:53] <BlessJah> om26er: probably it will end with reinstall from alternate cd...
[18:53] <om26er> BlessJah: try this repo
[18:53] <om26er> https://launchpad.net/~akos-ladanyi/+archive/ppa
[18:53] <baltadt> any server owners in here?
[18:54] <algeria> heloo a'm from algeria
[18:54] <algeria> heloo
[18:54] <BlessJah> om26er: i've downloaded deb but i cant install beacuse of deps...
[18:54] <om26er> !hi hello | algeria
[18:54] <TuFRaZz> Aaz?
[18:54] <TuFRaZz> =D
[18:54] <xman> algeria hello ask your query no time for HI hello
[18:54] <om26er> BlessJah: but you can always use ppa
[18:54] <algeria> a dont speak engned
[18:54] <wales> usser: its alive! :)
[18:54] <thorn_within> TuFRaZz, lolwut!  But guys don't know!
[18:56] <sumeetbali> hey
[18:56] <om26er> !torrents | BlessJah
[18:56] <ajah> how to find if my laptop is 64 bit
[18:56] <sumeetbali> i need some help
[18:56] <trislicards> anyone here who can help me with grub? I have 2 seperate hd one with xp then win 7 and another one with ubuntu. The problem is i added my vista to grub but it give's me the error 12: invalid device requested
[18:56] <Ioneye> suggest me a hex to ascii and the opposite converter.
[18:56] <rochi> hello
[18:56] <sumeetbali> could someone help me
[18:56] <karmic_police> i am trying to install 64 bit flash
[18:56] <ScreaminIke> does anyone have experience with yahoo voice chat in ubuntu? i'm working on geting gyachi up and running, but i could use some help
[18:56] <rochi> askum...
[18:56] <epinky> !dz
[18:56] <BlessJah> ubottu: to slow connection to download
[18:56] <TuFRaZz> ├Ć├½├▒├«, ├┐ ├ó├Ā├▒ ├ó├▒├ź├Ą ├ź├Ī├Ā├½ ├«├Ż├░├«├¼├Ł├╗├¼ ├ż├©├½├ż├« ├▒ ├¦├Ā├Ł├«├¦├Ā├¼├©. ├Ś├¼├«├¬├ź.
[18:56] <BlessJah> ubottu: to slow connection to download
[18:56] <xman> sumeetbali aage bhi to bolo bhai
[18:56] <sumeetbali> my ubuntu computer dosnt shut down says device error
[18:56] <russlar> !english
[18:56] <BlessJah> -sry
[18:56] <KurtKraut> I'm doing 'sudo aptitude purge mail-notification' but when I reinstall this package, I can realize all my previous configurations and password were kept after the 'purge'. Isn't that a bug? Isn't 'purge' expect to delete all package config files?
[18:56] <ScreaminIke> http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[18:57] <karmic_police> how do you log on as root?
[18:57] <isolat3dsh33p> russlar, got it! thanks very much :D
[18:57] <jforman> is there a way to have emacs open the textmode client when i launch it from the command line by default? (even if i am running X)
[18:57] <BlessJah> ScreaminIke: i have already 8.10 and 9.04 shipped xD
[18:57] <ScreaminIke> karmic police: sudo bash
[18:57] <baltadt> trislicards: seach ubuntu forums for the grub error. thats how I fixed mine
[18:57] <xman> sumeetbali go on ask your problm
[18:57] <trislicards> ok thx baltadt
[18:57] <Wazzzaaa> Hi, I just installed java. When I try to run java I get: "error in opening JAR file jre/lib/rt.jar". Any ideas how to solve this?
[18:57] <luis_> hello, if i grab an old (maybe from 2000-2003, dont remember) HP pavilion a1720n, what i need to modify for it to be able to use at full capabilities with speed MythTV and reproduces HD and do all things new desktop computers do? like changing RAM? can u help me?
[18:57] <russlar> isolat3dsh33p: you'll need to reboot to load the driver
[18:57] <digitalstimulus> karmic_police, why not install the ubuntu-restricted package that contains flash, java RE, etc?
[18:57] <Scuttle> I have problems getting my Dinovo Mini (bluetooth kbd) to work in 9.10, has anyone had any luck with this?
[18:57] <ScreaminIke> one more shot: anyone here use yahoo voice chat?
[18:57] <digitalstimulus> karmic_police, through something like synaptic/aptitude
[18:58] <thorn_within> TuFraZz do you sprehhen the English?
[18:58] <rochi> how to change gnome to kde
[18:58] <karmic_police> its not 64 bit
[18:58] <Ben64> luis_: what are the specs of it
[18:58] <mnass> wich package do i have to install to have additional KDE in Ubuntu with gnome?
[18:58] <isolat3dsh33p> russlar, owh, that's why. I'll reboot now. Thanks again. :)
[18:58] <Ghent> I was wondering if anyone had any info on how to install automake/autoconf 1.11 into jaunty?
[18:58] <digitalstimulus> karmic_police, i'm running 64 bit on a fileserver i have setup and it worked fine for me that way
[18:58]  * rochi now using gnome 9.10
[18:58] <luis_> 1 sec Ben64
[18:58] <durt> mnass, kubuntu-desktop
[18:58] <BlessJah> -sry
[18:59] <mnass> thanks
[18:59] <karmic_police> the one i am using lags and occasionally locks up firefox
[18:59] <ScreaminIke> mnass: kubuntu-desktop
[18:59] <karmic_police> it is fine at times but it does seem to freeze at random
[18:59] <beasty> morning
[19:00] <fx3> hi guys. im trying to boot an instal CD via PXE, there are plenty of how to's but im stuck.
[19:00] <beasty> i'm having issues loading my encrypted home folder
[19:00] <beasty> anyone knows how to fix ?
[19:00] <Ben64> karmic_police: download the 64bit version from adobe, put into ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[19:00] <Ghent> Does anyone know how to install automake 1.11 into jaunty, please?
[19:00] <fx3> ive got the machine to boot the kernel and initrd from tftp, but as the installation starts it says it cant dettect the install CD. I dont want to use nfs to export it, i hear that its possible with http?
[19:01] <lee___> mnass: kubuntu-desktop
[19:02] <ajah> how to check if my laptop is 32bit or 64 bit
[19:02] <crazy2k> Hello. Anyone did a netboot?
[19:02] <karmic_police> i have an extentions folder in mozilla.. that the same as plugins?
[19:03] <isolat3dsh33p> ok, i got compiz to work, how can i install the compiz manager?
[19:03] <CapeFear> re
[19:03] <durt> ajah, 'cat cpuinfo'
[19:03] <CapeFear> mka Tartaros are you still here guys
[19:03] <CapeFear> and sebsebseb
[19:03] <durt> ajah, sorry, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:03] <sebsebseb> CapeFear: I am
[19:03] <Ben64> karmic_police: do "locate -i libflashplayer"
[19:04] <Ben64> that should get the location of it for you
[19:04] <CapeFear> i checked my wireless.. still not working on the livecd
[19:04] <mka> CapeFear: yep
[19:04] <CapeFear> but i got my card type mka Tartaros
[19:04] <karmic_police> i have it on my desktop
[19:04] <slide> Can anyone help me get sound working in 9.10? lspci shows me this, "Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)"
[19:04] <CapeFear> it said ethernet controller atheros communications inc. ar5212,           802.11abg    nic crev 01
[19:04] <Kudi> does anyone have an Intel 82801DB Audio Sound card im looking for the alsa driver what is it called....i want to do a sudo modprobe snd-(driver)....or at least try to install it
[19:04] <Ben64> karmic_police: but you need to find the old one
[19:04] <mka> CapeFear: ok thats good, but did you try getting your wifi working?
[19:04] <Ben64> karmic_police: and replace it
[19:05] <CapeFear> mka how, based on the online documentation?
[19:05] <mka> CapeFear: Atheros are the notorious type of cards
[19:05] <ajah> durt clflush size	: 64 is this what i need
[19:05] <mka> CapeFear, you need madwifi tools
[19:05] <CapeFear> grr ..
[19:05] <CapeFear> madwifi tools?
[19:05] <Flo``> Kudi buy a SoundBlaster16 :D
[19:06] <CapeFear> mka, will you be here after about 20 minutes
[19:06] <kalon33> #giroll
[19:06] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to install compiz fusion manager?
[19:06] <lain_> Bien le bonjour
[19:06] <CapeFear> i need to get lunch or otherwise i'll start biting the desk :)
[19:06] <Kudi> Flo`` ya ok\
[19:06] <Tartaros> CapeFear: was afk for a while, anyway are we talking wifi or phone connection?
[19:06] <lain_> Bien le bonjour
[19:06] <mka> CapeFear: My wifi card is Atheros and tried "ad-hoc" wifi in ubuntu 8.04
[19:06] <CapeFear> Tartaros wifi
[19:07] <CapeFear> anyway, i gotta take off.. i'll be back in 20 minutes guys
[19:07] <CapeFear> thank you for the help so far:)
[19:07] <Tartaros> CapeFear: anyway helping you is kind of had when you don't connect from the linux ;)
[19:08] <ZykoticK9> ajah, it's not the clflush size!  do "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name" find out the name
[19:08] <karmic_police> permission denied when moving.
[19:08] <mka> CapeFear: Check out this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305812
[19:08] <DefamedPrawn> hi. my screensaver fails to kick in when idle. How do I diagnose this problem?
 model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T6400  @ 2.00GHz
[19:09] <TheLoneGunmen> Bien le bonjour
[19:09] <vis> hiya
[19:09] <durt> ajah, sorry, if it says 'lm' in the flags it's 64bit
[19:09] <ZykoticK9> ajah, i think all "Core 2 Duo" Duo being the important part are 64bit, i'll recheck google
[19:09] <vis> can anyone help me out with getting my usb bluetooth adapter configured? I have no idea where to start really
[19:09] <mka> !wifi
[19:09] <LaireTM> Hello, how can i mount a windows mobile handy, so that i can copy files on the device=
[19:09] <vis> !bluetooth
[19:09] <vis> wahay
[19:10] <xman> !update
[19:10] <vis> i thought that would be harder :D
[19:10] <Billiard> LaireTM: is it usb or what?
[19:10] <ZykoticK9> ajah, yes it's 64 bit see http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=40479
[19:10] <trislicards> !grub
[19:11] <luis_> Ben64: specifications: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00837320&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3340228
[19:11] <om26er> gtg
[19:11] <LaireTM> Billiard: yes
[19:11] <Billiard> LaireTM: does it work as a usb mass storage device ?
[19:12] <slide> Can anyone help me get sound working in 9.10? lspci shows me this, "Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)"
[19:12] <LaireTM> When i connect over usb it shows me a new ethernet connection, but i cant see the device @ nautilus
[19:12] <Vulgariana> Can anyone assist me with a video problem with Intel G31 on Karmic?
[19:13] <kurakuska> HALLO
[19:13] <LaireTM> Billiard: When i connect over usb it shows me a new ethernet connection, but i cant see the device @ nautilus
[19:13] <Billiard> LaireTM: maybe in your device you have to choose usb "mass storage device" rather than usb modem
[19:13] <TheLoneGunmen> Bonjour
[19:13] <TheLoneGunmen> Bonjour
[19:14] <kurakuska> i e a problem with installation of huawei e 169 of 3
[19:14] <Billiard> kurakuska: is that another language or really bad english?
[19:14] <TeLLuS> Hi, I am using karmic openoffice.org and it do not see my cups printer that is working fine printing testpage from cups.. Help.. What to do?