[06:49] <hcatlin> {high hat!}
[06:49] <Stormx2> So what is ubuntu going to do for christmas then?
[06:49] <soundray> Anyone here familiar with Antec cases?
[06:49] <MarcN> hcatlin: /me remembers studying token ring in college.  Before the whole network protocol stack wars were settled.
[06:50] <Stormx2> calamari: Whats wrong with smeg?
[06:50] <hcatlin> MarcN: thank god they lost....
[06:50] <MarcN> hcatlin: DECnet, etc
[06:50] <calamari> Stormx2: lots of things.. I can list :)
[06:50] <soccer> hello
[06:51] <Stormx2> calamari: Listening ;-)
[06:51] <Amaranth> win98 style? you mean browsing things like they're files?
[06:51] <Stormx2> Haha wouldn't it be great if microsoft announched Vista is going to be open source hehe.
[06:51] <Amaranth> calamari: Can I see that list?
[06:52] <soccer> I am trying to do some partition work with gparted on the live cd, and it says that 2 operations are pending, is it partitioning it?
[06:52] <Stormx2> Well, my MP3s are ripping faster and no longer skipping
[06:52] <calamari> Stormx2: it's not able to detect my duplicate menu items.  I can't drag and drop items.  I can't delete items, I can't move around items with my mouse, it's not combined with the menu itself (separate app basically), so I couldn't just drag an icon onto the menu, then drag the icon where I wanted it to be, couldn't right click an icon and reanem , delete, etc
[06:52] <MarcN> Stormx2: impossible.  Too much licensed code in the code base I'd bet you.
[06:52] <calamari> Stormx2: basically, standard start menu editing procedures for win 98/xp
[06:53] <Amaranth> calamari: integration with the menu is dependant on a 5000 line library getting converted to C _and_ someone writing a completely new GtkMenu widget
[06:53] <soccer> Does anyone have expireince with gparted?
[06:53] <Stormx2> MarcN: My friend has a friend who works in the microsoft dev team. Rumour is the kernel is based of the unix kernel.
[06:53] <Amaranth> calamari: You can drag-and-drop items, you can only delete items you created (the others are root items).
[06:53] <soccer> because I need some help with it
[06:53] <NoUse> Stormx2 yeah thats what I heard
[06:53] <Stormx2> NoUse: Really?
[06:53] <MarcN> Stormx2: which 'unix' kernel?
[06:53] <NoUse> Stormx2 yeah
[06:53] <Stormx2> No idea ;-)
[06:53] <soccer> is bur[n] er here?
[06:53] <Amaranth> Stormx2: No. The NT kernel was written by a group of developers microsoft hired that has also created VMS.
[06:54] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: how did you fix your cd ripping?
[06:54] <bur[n] er> soccer: what's wrong
[06:54] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: I used my slower cd drive, that rips quicker >.>
[06:54] <calamari> Amaranth: I don't mean to diss your smeg work.. you gave us something when there was nothing in hoary :)
[06:54] <soccer> bur[n] er: it says 2 operations are pending...is that normal?
[06:54] <MarcN> Amaranth: /me worked in the VMS group 1987-93ish.
[06:54] <Amaranth> Stormx2: The NT kernel is also one of the best (if not _the_ best) in existance.
[06:54] <Stormx2> 5x still isn't great but its better than 0.5x and they don't skip. Its about the same i get on winblows
[06:54] <Amaranth> calamari: Most of your issues are because you're using hoary.
[06:54] <calamari> Amaranth: actually I'm in breezy
[06:54] <bur[n] er> soccer: until you hit apply... sure
[06:55] <Stormx2> Distropwn'd
[06:55] <MarcN> Amaranth: FWIW the VMS kernel is very good.  Course, most of what you see is not the kernel.  GUI, libs, services, apps...
[06:55] <soccer> bur[n] er: ah, thats what i was missing
[06:55] <Amaranth> calamari: Then most of your issues are non-existant. You can drag-and-drop to reorder, move, etc.
[06:55] <snausages> hey all, my floppy won't mount when I double-click on Floppy Drive
[06:55] <Amaranth> !tell calamari about alacarte
[06:55] <MarcN> Amaranth: and written in BLISS-32
[06:55] <calamari> Amaranth: I'm just hoping for a nicely integrated menu editor .. or I'd like the old warty style .. that worked
[06:55] <Stormx2> What was the warty one like?
[06:55] <Stormx2> What came before warty?
[06:55] <Amaranth> calamari: It didn't really work but it pretended it did. That was the old menu system.
[06:56] <soccer> bur[n] er: sorry for the noob questions, but where is the apply button?
[06:56] <Amaranth> nothing came before warty
[06:56] <bur[n] er> debian came before warty ;)
[06:56] <Urthmover> well light was first
[06:56] <Stormx2> But isn't warty v3?
[06:56] <Stormx2> As breezy is v5?
[06:56] <slept> snausages, is the disk formated ?
[06:56] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: teh version is based on year
[06:56] <calamari> Amaranth: it worked great.. it was win95 style, but it was quick & easy
[06:56] <bur[n] er> and month
[06:56] <Amaranth> Stormx2: No, the "version numbers" are Y.MM
[06:56] <Stormx2> ohh!
[06:56] <Stormx2> ;D
[06:56] <Amaranth> calamari: Trust me, it didn't really work. :P
[06:56] <snausages> slept, i'm not sure. i just get the following message, "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[06:56] <calamari> Amaranth: hehehe
[06:56] <snausages> how would i format it if it isn't.
[06:56] <jandusion> NoUse, wasnt abble to sett a new password with just pressing passwd
[06:57] <calamari> Amaranth: whats the library that needs to be ported ?
[06:57] <NoUse> jandusion what error did you get?
[06:57] <Amaranth> calamari: pyxdg
[06:57] <soccer> does anyone know where the apply button is in gparted?
[06:57] <calamari> lol, python?  no wonder the start menu takes so long to open
[06:57] <Amaranth> calamari: after that someone needs to either write a gnome-vfs plugin to get warty style editing or create an entirely new widget to replace GtkMenu to get inline editing.
[06:58] <Amaranth> calamari: the menu isn't python, the editor is
[06:58] <slept> snausages, should there be sth on the disk ? if not you can do a mkfs.whatyoulike /dev/fd0
[06:58] <Amaranth> calamari: the menu has libgnome-menu, but it sucks
[06:58] <calamari> I wonder how mhard it'd be to replace GtkMenu
[06:58] <Amaranth> calamari: pyxdg handles everything for me and actually, well, works
[06:58] <jsz> I'm compiling the Austhex IRCD
[06:59] <jandusion> autirisation something busy
[06:59] <Amaranth> calamari: 6 months of solid work if you've never made a widget before, I'd guess.
[06:59] <calamari> Amaranth: cool.. is there a way to run things as root so I can delete the duplicated entries ?
[06:59] <jandusion> NoUse,  autirisation something busy
[06:59] <Amaranth> calamari: duplicated?
[06:59] <Amaranth> calamari: Do they show up duplicated in alacarte?
[06:59] <NoUse> jandusion I don't know what to tell you, you might have to reinstall
[06:59] <calamari> Amaranth: yeah, I have two of everything in Preferences and Administration
[06:59] <calamari> Amaranth: dunno, I'll look
[07:00] <Amaranth> calamari: in alacarte too?
[07:00] <jandusion> NoUse, >(
[07:00] <Amaranth> calamari: otherwise it's a gnome-menus bug (there are lots of these)
[07:00] <calamari> I looked at the menu spec once.. it was an xml nightmare
[07:01] <jandusion> NoUse,  when i reinstall is there something i need to remeber then?
[07:01] <Amaranth> yep
[07:01] <Amaranth> that's why pyxdg is a large complicated library
[07:01] <NoUse> jandusion no just do a normal installation
[07:01] <Amaranth> and it takes advantage of some things you can't do in C
[07:01] <calamari> seems like it'd be better to break spec and just create something simple fast and working
[07:02] <jandusion> NoUse, when i do a normal install... can i make it install on th D drive and not the c drive
[07:02] <NoUse> jandusion yeah you should be able to
[07:02] <NoUse> jandusion but Linux doesn't refer to them as C and D drives
[07:02] <german> Hello
[07:02] <soccer> bur[n] er: do you know where the apply button is in gparted (since you use it) if I am annoying you, just say so, and I will leave
[07:03] <jandusion> NoUse, ok but its 160gb drive and a 200gb drive
[07:03] <bur[n] er> soccer: the little "checkbox" in the toolbar
[07:03] <NoUse> jandusion thats fine, the partitioner should allow you to choose which drive it goes on
[07:03] <hyakuhei> evening all, what do I apt-get for the C man pages, scanf etc
[07:04] <jandusion> NoUse, ok man ty for help so faar.. ill reinstall linux and talk to you again
[07:04] <pluffsy> hello
[07:04] <soccer> bur[n] er: sorry, I didnt have it maxamized, so I couldnt see that
[07:04] <watxutu> alguien me puede ayudar con una duda por favor?
[07:05] <soccer> bur[n] er: UHOH! there is an error
[07:05] <calamari> Amaranth: alacarte shows the dups but does not allow deletion of them
[07:05] <Amaranth> calamari: because you don't own them
[07:06] <calamari> Amaranth: I ran as sudo alacarte
[07:06] <Amaranth> calamari: yeah, alacarte is not designed to run at root
[07:06] <snausages> i just successfully formatted a floppy and I still can't mount it. i get this message: Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[07:06] <usertu> Hello, I've bought a PCI WLAN card for my Ubuntu box which was recognised with the rt2500 module
[07:07] <IcemanV9> !es
[07:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:07] <aet> ubuntu gcc so slow...
[07:07] <usertu> I'd like to ask if I can use the box as a WLAN access point with this card?
[07:07] <_jason> does anyone know how to enable auto-repeating for specific mouse keys?  (or if you know anything else that might point me in the right direction let me know)  Thanks.
[07:07] <holycow> anyone here try sharing folders via smb between two linux machines?
[07:08] <holycow> actually
[07:08] <pirx> what does it mean when it says multiverse in sources.list?
[07:08] <dmoyne> hello! : before swiching eventually to breezy 64 bits I want to install dosemu that does not exist in the breezy package ; I loaded the source to compile it but I got an error message ; can this be due to a source not designed to be compiled in 64 bit executable ?
[07:08] <Juhaz> usertu, the current version of rt2500 driver doesn't support softap mode
[07:08] <holycow> the problem is the same, linux or win, whenever client tries to access/write to share they cannot login
[07:08] <holycow> anyone run into that?
[07:08] <Juhaz> usertu, it's supposedly in the works, for the future, though
[07:08] <usertu> Juhaz, this means I cannot setup DHCP and NAT on that card?
[07:08] <gsnedders> what's the default configure options for php4?
[07:09] <calamari> Amaranth: well, I was able to uncheck them to make them hiddle, so that hid the dups.. thanks :)
[07:09] <Juhaz> usertu, no, you can setup them just fine
[07:09] <usertu> Juhaz, then what the heck is AP mode?
[07:09] <soccer> bur[n] er: surely this isnt right? http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4635
[07:09] <rel> Does anyone know how to configure Yaboot so that OSX is the default instead of Breezy?
[07:10] <Juhaz> usertu, something that allows the card to work as an access point instead of just in ad-hoc mode
[07:10] <RuffianSoldier> hey - i just reinstalled hoary - is it safe to upgrade to breezy???
[07:10] <hyakuhei> RuffianSoldier: should be
[07:10] <RuffianSoldier> awesome
[07:10] <IcemanV9> RuffianSoldier: yes
[07:10] <pluffsy> RuffianSoldier, I had a lot of problems. but most seem to be fine
[07:10] <xrenmilay> has anyone had problems running blender with  ATI rage 128 Pro RT card?
[07:10] <Juhaz> usertu, it's no big deal, if you need to ask, forget I ever mentioned it :)
[07:11] <ubuntu> gonococos!!!
[07:11] <ubuntu> jhonny be good
[07:11] <RuffianSoldier> btw - i forget how to switch to universe repose in synaptic
[07:11] <calamari> I might look into making my own panel app someday.. then I could ignore silly gnome changes like them taking away the run option
[07:11] <usertu> Juhaz, but if I set up DHCP/NAT to that device my notebook can connect to my box automagically?
[07:11] <ubuntu> calamari cabecenalga
[07:12] <ubuntu> hi yvone
[07:12] <rel> Does anyone know how to configure Yaboot so that OSX is the default boot instead of Breezy?
[07:12] <ubuntu> were your front?
[07:12] <RuffianSoldier> hey ubuntu - your name isnt registered is it? if it isnt - i registered it a year ago
[07:12] <ceej> i've got a big problem with my Synaptic package manager ;/
[07:12] <RuffianSoldier> aaah he left
[07:12] <soccer> ubnutu: what laguage do you speak?
[07:12] <soccer> ubuntu: what language do you speak?
[07:12] <Juhaz> usertu, sure. typing this on rt2500 nat server in fact.
[07:12] <ceej> got about 4 of these warnings when i load it up W: Couldn't stat source package list http://antesis.freecontrib.org breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[07:12] <usertu> Juhaz, wow :)
[07:13] <pluffsy> rel: have you googled for it? long time since I did but I think it was rather logic
[07:13] <usertu> Juhaz, thank you very much.
[07:13] <usertu> Bye
[07:13] <rel> pluffsy, I was just doing that :)
[07:14] <Suoli> What does Error code 11 signify for in Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:14] <soccer> bur[n] er: I think gparted froze in the middle of its partition work :(
[07:14] <Suoli> I this error message when my x server tries to turn on
[07:14] <ceej> can anyone help?
[07:14] <marlun> Is the bar in Yelp that lets you go to the previous page or the next one supposed to be added in the middle of the page and somtimes even over text so you can't read it?
[07:14] <xrenmilay> is it possible to get help here? :(
[07:14] <Suoli> *get
[07:15] <marlun> Hmmm, now for some reason it's at the bottom again :)
[07:15] <bigdawg> Can anybody help me with a breezy kernel install problem with a SATA RAID adapter (SIL3112 chipset)?
[07:15] <marlun> Guess it heard me complaining, good feature.
[07:15] <RuffianSoldier> i can still upgrade to breezy by apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[07:15] <reeen> heya
[07:16] <soccer> bur[n] er: is it safe to force quit gparted because it froze, although it already started it's partition work?
[07:16] <reeen> i have a problem. i've got crappy sounds with the sound juicer when i want to playback a cd
[07:16] <xrenmilay> where can I get to most current libGL for ubuntu?
[07:16] <shaji> hi all
[07:17] <NoUse> xrenmilay should already be installed
[07:17] <bur[n] er> soccer: i wouldn't
[07:17] <Suoli> and why doesn't apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx work?
[07:17] <Answer> You know in grub it has a memtest option?  How can I launch that from the livecd?
[07:17] <bur[n] er> soccer: you're not resizing or manipulating a mounted drive right?
[07:17] <shaji> i am upgrading my ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10
[07:17] <shaji> by synaptic
[07:17] <shaji> will it work?
[07:17] <bur[n] er> shaji: sure
[07:17] <soccer> bur[n] er: yes...and creating a new one
[07:17] <shaji> wat are the new additions
[07:17] <Answer> !tell shaji about upgrade2breezy
[07:17] <marlun> Which web-based radio stations can I listen to with ubuntu and how?
[07:18] <soccer> bur[n] er: this is what it looks like: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4635
[07:18] <bur[n] er> marlun: get streamtuner
[07:18] <Answer> You know in grub it has a memtest option?  How can I launch that from the livecd?
[07:18] <marlun> The ones I listen to in windos usually require microsoft media player =/
[07:18] <xrenmilay> NoUse: I have it installed but blender for some reason doesn't like it
[07:18] <shaji> Wat are the additions
[07:18] <kronicdreamer> why is pple tellin me that ubuntu sux when on distro watch its #1 by 1000
[07:18] <marlun> bur[n] er, streamhunter, ok =) thanks
[07:18] <shaji> and wat all bugs are fixed?
[07:18] <bur[n] er> marlun: u can get mplayer's mozilla plugin for the microsoft media player things... also look for w32codecs
[07:18] <bur[n] er> !w32codecs
[07:18] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:18] <soccer> kronicdreamer: who said ubuntu sux?
[07:19] <NoUse> xrenmilay what kind of video card od you have?
[07:19] <reeen> i have a problem. i've got crappy sounds with the sound juicer when i want to playback a cd
[07:19] <Answer> shaji, read the msg from ubotu and look at that link.  there are too many changes to list here
[07:19] <Answer> You know in grub it has a memtest option?  How can I launch that from the livecd?
[07:19] <kronicdreamer> everyone i asked lol
[07:19] <bur[n] er> soccer: got me on that gparted thing... try killin it :)
[07:19] <shaji> ok
[07:19] <bur[n] er> reeen: turned dma on?
[07:19] <reeen> yes i have
[07:19] <soccer> reeen: no need to ask more then once, if anyone knows, they will answer
[07:19] <reeen> xine plays them well
[07:19] <german> hi, can anyone help me
[07:19] <soccer> bur[n] er: killing it...how?
[07:19] <marlun> bur[n] er, ok, I'll look for that :)
[07:19] <kronicdreamer> does the cd you can get thru shipit totally install?
[07:20] <marlun> bur[n] er, in the package manager?
[07:20] <Answer> kronicdreamer, yes the install cd is shipped with shipit
[07:20] <german> i just want to have num lock on when starting X
[07:20] <bigdawg> Does anyone here have any custom kernel install experience here?
[07:20] <kronicdreamer> thats the whole thing?
[07:20] <trappist> german: google for numlockx
[07:20] <kronicdreamer> cuz i am wantin to get rid of this damn windows it SUXXXXXX
[07:20] <german> thanks
[07:20] <Answer> kronicdreamer, it will install the base package then download more from the internet, but that is optional.
[07:20] <german> thanks trappist
[07:21] <Answer> german, numlock is usually set in your system bios
[07:21] <kronicdreamer> i was just wantin to make sure its good to go
[07:21] <xrenmilay> NoUse: I have I have an ATI Rage 128 Pro RT
[07:21] <Answer> kronicdreamer, you can download the install cd and see for yourself...
[07:21] <welp> how long does ubuntu take to install?
[07:21] <soccer> bur[n] er: is killing the same thing as force quit?
[07:21] <kronicdreamer> i dont have a burner that works
[07:21] <xrenmilay> I set my pyton2.3 environment variables
[07:21] <kronicdreamer> and i want it on a seperate pc
[07:22] <Answer> welp, less than half an hour if you know what you're doing
[07:22] <welp> Answer, okies
[07:22] <welp> thankies
[07:22] <german> Answer, but i have both Win and ubuntu, and in windowz the numlock key is on
[07:22] <welp> :P
[07:22] <xrenmilay> Blender go a little futher. intead of a quick blender gray screen It actually flickers
[07:22] <bigdawg> quit
[07:22] <Answer> welp, downloading all the other packages from the internet can take longer  depending on what you select
[07:22] <kronicdreamer> how you set it up to boot over my windows XP Home?
[07:22] <welp> Answer, okies, thankies
[07:22] <Answer> german, maybe windows sets it.  on most of my computers you can set the numlock on or off in the bios
[07:23] <welp> :D
[07:23] <Kibou> windows sets the numlock
[07:23] <marlun> bur[n] er, mozilla-mplayer <- that one? =)
[07:23] <xrenmilay> libGl complains about graphix memory
[07:23] <Kibou> gnome can't do it itself
[07:23] <Kibou> it needs numlockx
[07:23] <xrenmilay> then a final segmentation error
[07:23] <Answer> kronicdreamer, resize the windows partition so you have enough free space, then install ubuntu and it will recognize it and put it in the grub boot loader
[07:23] <Kibou> kde has it's own option for it
[07:24] <Answer> How can I launch memtest from the LiveCD ?
[07:24] <kronicdreamer> can i create another portion and install while windows is up? or do i havta burn on a CD?
[07:24] <Answer> kronicdreamer, I recommend burning it on a cd.  I tried what you are saying and failed
[07:24] <kronicdreamer> i have the 4 CDs in the mail
[07:24] <kronicdreamer> you know how long they take to get here?
[07:25] <xrenmilay> NoUse: On the video card is 32 megs
[07:25] <DShepherd> hey
[07:25] <Answer> kronicdreamer, 5-7 business days for ground shipping in the continental usa
[07:25] <emgee> Hey folks! Where do I find a NickServ admin around here?
[07:25] <kronicdreamer> ohh ok kickass
[07:25] <NoUse> xrenmilay run this in a terminal 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[07:25] <Answer> emgee, /msg nickserv help
[07:25] <kronicdreamer> only got a day or 2 left
[07:26] <soccer> bur[n] er: now it says that the new partition I created (/dev/hda3) is unknown!?!?!?!?
[07:26] <kronicdreamer> bbl
[07:26] <DShepherd> emgee: NickServ*
[07:26] <Answer> How can I launch memtest from the LiveCD ?
[07:26] <NeonLightning> does anyone use the liveboot i can't seem to find my hd in /mnt/ or in places
[07:26] <Answer> NeonLightning, you have to mount /dev/hda1
[07:26] <emgee> Answer, no such info there
[07:27] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found." - Can anyone help me?
[07:27] <emgee> DShepherd, you mean their nicks are nickserv-something?
[07:27] <NeonLightning> ok so i have to mount all my drives
[07:27] <NeonLightning> because i can't remember witch one was my large drive that i have the files i need on
[07:27] <reeen> does anyone of you have experience with skype ?
[07:27] <reeen> its weird because it takes about one minute for the login screen to come up
[07:27] <DShepherd> emgee: /msg Nickserv help <-- type that. case matters
[07:27] <HappyFool> Answer: at the boot screen, type   memtest<enter>
[07:28] <Cronic> Anyone available to help me with X?
[07:28] <Answer> HappyFool, sweet I knew if i asked enough times hehehe
[07:28] <HappyFool> Answer: or press F1 (F2 ... ) for more info
[07:28] <emgee> DShepherd, I have, and all I get is a list of commands. I need help reobtaining my password!
[07:28] <kronicdreamr|bbl> Ubuntu = w/ Gnome and Kubutu = KDE, Right?
[07:28] <Answer> HappyFool, I looked at F1, F2, F3 etc but I did not see any memtest
[07:28] <Answer> kronicdreamr|bbl, yes.
[07:28] <kronicdreamr|bbl> ok
[07:29] <Answer> emgee, did you read the list of the help commands??
[07:29] <xrenmilay> NoUse:  when are you on usually?
[07:29] <kronicdreamr|bbl> ill quit bothering yall for now :P
[07:29] <calamari> Amaranth: I'd need to create a new gtk component to handle the dragging, wouldn't I...
[07:29] <emgee> Answer, yes...
[07:29] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found." - Can anyone help?
[07:29] <HappyFool> Answer: hmm. that's for the breezy live cd -- maybe the others are different
[07:29] <DShepherd> emgee: oh... I dont know how
[07:29] <emgee> ok
[07:29] <Amaranth> calamari: That's why I said you need to design a replacement for the GtkMenu widget
[07:29] <NeonLightning> every time i try and run firefox off the cd i get segmentation fault
[07:29] <HappyFool> Answer: i know that the warty (ubuntu 4.10) livecd is very different
[07:29] <Cronic> NeonLightning: Sounds like it wasn't built for your kernel?
[07:30] <Answer> HappyFool, ohh ok i'll get the new livecd
[07:30] <calamari> Amaranth: guess that didn't fully sink in last time :)  thanks
[07:30] <soccer> bur[n] er: do you think that my hard drive could have some sort of protection against partitioning, because it doesnt want to resize!
[07:30] <NeonLightning> i'm runnin off the live cd cronic
[07:31] <xrenmilay> NoUse: Im currently away from my linux box.. I was tryingt o find out if there is a quick fix or if some one had some issues. I guess I should be asking for infomation when I am behind the box huh?
[07:31] <DShepherd> NeonLightning: it may be that a part of your cd is bad
[07:31] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Whats up?
[07:32] <NeonLightning> damn both times i've ordered the cd's i get about 1 out of every 4 or 5 that works fine
[07:32] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: is here...just need help helping out
[07:32] <xrenmilay> NoUse:  I will give it shot when I get home. What should I be looking for?
[07:32] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found."
[07:33] <christian_> i have got big problems with the wpa_supplicant and ubuntu breezy
[07:33] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Cool. ny particualr issues?
[07:33] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: generally no.
[07:33] <DaSkreech> aight
[07:33] <anavim> if #ubuntu-offtopic the only place for non-support related ubuntu chat?
[07:33] <sambagirl> anyone here remember my issues of yesterday?
[07:34] <sambagirl> i am trying to open this http://<IP_ADDRESS>/html/openemr-2.8.0/setup.php
[07:34] <sambagirl> well when i open it it pops up with dialog box asking if i want to save or execute with what/
[07:34] <sambagirl> ?
[07:34] <anavim> er, I mean, is..
[07:34] <sambagirl>  i dont understand.
[07:34] <DaSkreech> For Ubuntu Yeah :-)
[07:34] <HEFFA> woooo
[07:35] <DShepherd> anavim: officially yes
[07:35] <marlun> I've installed streamtuner which also seemed to install XMMS (if it wasn't allready there) but I get no sound out of XMMS, I know the sound is working because the general ubuntu sounds are working.
[07:36] <welp> how do i install wine?
[07:36] <anavim> DShepherd, why do you say officially?  Does that mean you know of an unofficial ubuntu chat channel?
[07:36] <marlun> Sorry no question there, but ofcourse my question is how to fix it :)
[07:36] <Xappe> marlun: check if you can change the xmms output to ESD
[07:36] <DaSkreech> anavim: There are unofficial chat rooms all over just not aasociated with Ubuntu
[07:36] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found."
[07:37] <DShepherd> anavim: unofficially u can talk about ubuntu anywhere :)
[07:37] <DaSkreech> anavim: try /ist
[07:37] <Cronic> I've never had so much trouble with X until today
[07:37] <Cronic> Jeez
[07:37] <DShepherd> anavim: that should be /list
[07:37] <watxutu> #ubuntu_es
[07:37] <anavim> ok, thx :)
[07:37] <NeonLightning> using the liveboot cd where would be the mount point of my usbdisk
[07:38] <marlun> Xappe, In Preferences and Output plugin I have: Alsa, Disk Writer Plugin, eSound output plugin and OSS Driver.
[07:38] <DShepherd> NeonLightning: /media
[07:38] <Xappe> marlun: then try eSound (ESD)
[07:38] <Cronic> No one up for helping resolve an X issue? :(
[07:39] <NeonLightning> why won't it let me make a folder with a name all caps it keeps making it lowercase
[07:39] <marlun> Xappe, Ah! I tried it before but never restarted the XMMS, but now I did and it worked =)
[07:39] <Xappe> marlun: :)
[07:39] <marlun> Xappe, thanks! at last I've got music in ubuntu :)
[07:39] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Do you have stumbleupon?
[07:39] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found."
[07:39] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: sure why wouldnt I :)
[07:39] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Name?
[07:40] <DShepherd> oh you mean an account
[07:40] <DShepherd> ?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:40] <DaSkreech> I'm skreech
[07:40] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: nope I dont....well i did...but that was along time ago...I guess I goign to have to do another
[07:41] <DaSkreech> Did you make a name or did you just have a number?
[07:41] <orbx> does anyone know how to make the ubuntu apache server live when behind a router?
[07:41] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: made a name
[07:41] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Remember it?
[07:41] <robotgeek> orbx: you would have to forward port 80
[07:41] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: maybe sprite
[07:41] <kinkoblast> How would I go about changing the x server's color depth?
[07:42] <orbx> robotgeek: so it would ne http://myip:80
[07:42] <robotgeek> orbx: www.portforward.com
[07:42] <NeonLightning> is there a way to open rar files using the liveboot
[07:42] <jino__> hi all
[07:42] <ni1s> orbx: Http defaults to 80, www.free6.com == www.free6.com:60
[07:43] <DaSkreech> NeonLightning: You'll have to apt-get unrar
[07:43] <jino__> am installing the downloaded update throgh synaptic
[07:43] <Cronic> sigh I need some help :(
[07:43] <orbx> nils: ok i will try that
[07:43] <NeonLightning> when i type apt and press tab it doesn't bring up anything
[07:43] <jino__> i see a message like locale not suppoted by c library
[07:43] <paolob> Hi guys! I have a ltsp server with debian testing, and I want to migrate it to edubuntu. Will it be possible? Is there any tutorial somewhere?
[07:43] <IcemanV9> kinkoblast: look for DefaultColorDepth in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:43] <jino__> Will that be an issue?
[07:43] <NeonLightning> nm it works
[07:43] <ni1s> orbx: no, you need to set your router to forward port 80 to your computer
[07:44] <ni1s> orbx: What router do you have?
[07:44] <kinkoblast> IcemanV9: I'll try that when I get home (I forgot to install ssh on my system so I'm using a friends)
[07:44] <orbx> nils: i don't know what type of router i have
[07:44] <NeonLightning> E: Invalid operation unrar
[07:44] <jino__> Seveas , i need help updating my system to 5.10
[07:44] <robotgeek> NeonLightning: apt-get install unrar
[07:44] <orbx> nils: its set up on different computer with windows
[07:44] <ni1s> orbx: try in your browser to go to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:44] <Seveas> !tell jino about breezy
[07:44] <NeonLightning> ahh ok thanks
[07:44] <Seveas> !tell jino__ about breezy
[07:44] <jino__> am getting a message like locale not supported
[07:45] <DShepherd> NeonLightning: sudo apt-get install unrar
[07:45] <robotgeek> jino__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[07:45] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: ah well guess it was a really long time ago :)
[07:45] <NeonLightning> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[07:45] <Seveas> jino__, during the upgrade that message can be ignored
[07:45] <Seveas> NeonLightning, unrar-nonfree (enable multiverse)
[07:45] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: found it?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> NeonLightning: It would be in multiverse
[07:45] <NeonLightning> how do i do so on the liveboot
[07:45] <jino__> Seveas , SO i can expect that to work well ..Can i?
[07:45] <ni1s> orbx: You can run dhclient from a terminal and see where you get your IP from
[07:46] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell NeonLightning about repos
[07:46] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: http://sprite.stumbleupon.com/
[07:46] <welp> how come, i added the repositry for wine as on: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb but wine doesn't appear in the package list?
[07:46] <orbx> nils: no that didn't work, thats not my IP
[07:46] <welp> i'm in ubuntu
[07:46] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: :)
[07:46] <orbx> nils: its <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:46] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Look when he joined
[07:46] <ni1s> orbx: So your routers IP is porbably <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:47] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: I dont think that's me
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Me either
[07:47] <ni1s> orbx: or try dhclient
[07:47] <Cronic> Once I upgrade my kernel source, how do I get grub to see the new kernel/
[07:47] <Cronic> ?
[07:47] <ni1s> Cronic: after you compile it?
[07:48] <orbx> nils: permission denied..
[07:48] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: If you need me ping me I'm back at the grind
[07:48] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: joing now
[07:48] <Cronic> yes
[07:48] <Cronic> After it's compiled
[07:48] <Seveas> jino__, yes
[07:48] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: ok kool
[07:48] <ni1s> orbx: you need the router username/password
[07:48] <Cronic> I used to make zlilo
[07:48] <Cronic> but what now?
[07:48] <YeTr2> I'm having all kinds of trouble installing the nvidia module. If it isn't locking up the computer, it's complaining about version mismatch between 7174 & 7667
[07:49] <NoUse> YeTr2 how did you install the driver?
[07:49] <NeonLightning> um i can't goto that site because both mozilla and firefox give segmentation faults
[07:49] <Cronic> NeonLightning: does anything else give a seg fault?
[07:49] <paolob> Guys, what about migrating to edubuntu from testing now?
[07:49] <Cronic> it might be a hardware issue.
[07:50] <YeTr2> w/ apt
[07:50] <NeonLightning> not that i've come across on this live cd but i haven't used many of the progs but i do sometimes get it when using mandrake
[07:50] <NeonLightning> i just need it long enough to unrar one file so i can stick it on my psp
[07:50] <Cronic> It sounds like a memory error or something hardware
[07:51] <Red-Sox> hi
[07:51] <ni1s> hello
[07:51] <NeonLightning> well i'm runnin a celeron so its a shot cpu from birth
[07:51] <nrunge> Is it reccomended to upgrade from 4.05 to 4.10? If so then how do I do that?
[07:52] <NoUse> !tell nrunge about breezy
[07:52] <Cronic> What package holds types.h?
[07:53] <trappist> Cronic: apt-file search types.h
[07:53] <Cronic> or better yet, the kernel headers
[07:53] <trappist> Cronic: linux-headers
[07:53] <Cronic> thanks
[07:54] <nrunge> What version of the Nvidia drivers is currently in the Breezy repositories?
[07:54] <Red-Sox> I dont remember who it was, trappist, i think, anyway, we where talking and we declared that i needed something (but I dont remember what it was) for my sound. I'm very descriptive eh? Anyway, it had to do with my sound card, it could only play sound from one program, and he told me to do something, but I dont remember what it was
[07:54] <YeTr2> NoUse: ?
[07:55] <ni1s> trappist: As in the kind of beer? Like Chimay?
[07:55] !lilo:*! Added clarifying and explanatory material to http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[07:55] <aet> Red-Sox: esd
[07:55] <NoUse> YeTr2 I don't know, make sure your sources.list is corrent and try reinstalling those drivers, my nvidia installation was a snap
[07:55] <trappist> ni1s: as in chimay, yes :)
[07:55] <YeTr2> currently have nvidia-glx, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386, linux-restircted-modules-2.6.12-9-686 nvidia-kernel-common
[07:55] <Red-Sox> aet: no, although that is a problem too, i have to killall esd every time
[07:55] <NoUse> nrunge http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:55] <jandusion> NoUse, yay now it realy works
[07:55] <trappist> Red-Sox: what aet said
[07:56] <NoUse> jandusion thats good
[07:56] <Red-Sox> aet: sorry, you wer right
[07:56] <jandusion> NoUse, help me install skype plz
[07:56] <Cronic> I suck at X
[07:56] <Cronic> :(
[07:56] <Cronic> It just wont freaking work
[07:56] <ni1s> trappist: My all time favorite beer! It's nice to see someone else enjoy it
[07:56] <NoUse> !tell jandusion about skype
[07:56] <Red-Sox> aet: so...is it fixable?
[07:56] <jandusion> calamari, ty for help man
[07:56] <cristian23> hi
[07:56] <trappist> ni1s: mine too!  I even have wine fridge dedicated to it :)
[07:57] <cristian23> how do i use the multiseat-configurator script for setting up 2 displays?
[07:57] <aet> Red-Sox: id think so
[07:57] <Red-Sox> aet: do you know how?
[07:57] <cristian23> it checks for /etc/multiseat.conf, but i don't have that file
[07:57] <ni1s> trappist: Dosent storing it in the fridge make it too cold? dosnt it lose taste?
[07:57] <Red-Sox> trappist: so you know what I need to do, not how to do it, just what i need to do to fix it?
[07:58] <trappist> ni1s: wine fridges don't get as cold
[07:58] <ni1s> trappist: ah!
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> i need help.....
[07:58] <trappist> Red-Sox: I know that you need a sound daemon and that gnome's sound daemon is esd, but I don't use gnome
[07:58] <dle> Hi.  How do I get the auto-updater applet running in Breezy?  I have done System->Administration->Update Manager->Preferences->Settings and checked 'Automatically check...'.
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> trappist, what do you use?
[07:58] <trappist> kde
[07:58] <cristian23> where is specified the sintax of multiseat.conf?
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> eeeww....
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> no offence
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> :P
[07:58] <aet> Red-Sox: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 ?
[07:59] <orbx> can anyone suggest a good C++ IRC server?
[07:59] <LaserJock> what is the difference between vim-gnome2 and vim-gtk?
[07:59] <ni1s> orbx: IRCD maybe, dont know if its in C++, see sourceforge.net and freashmeat
[08:00] <orbx> nils: no i mean a server, as in where you chat about C++
[08:00] <NoUse> orbx then you mean channel
[08:01] <orbx> NoUse: yea
[08:01] <devin__> Can anybody tell me why http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu isn't up now?
[08:01] <NoUse> orbx ##C++
[08:01] <eedge> is there a way I can install KDE just to try it for a while...
[08:01] <DShepherd> orbx: type /list you can find channels there
[08:01] <Red-Sox> trappist: if you want to, but ONLY if you want to, you could please tell me what a sound daemon is
[08:02] <DShepherd> eedge: yes you can. sudo aptitdue install kubuntu-desktop
[08:02] <orbx> NoUse + DShepherd: Thankyou guys
[08:02] <DShepherd> orbx: np
[08:02] <trappist> Red-Sox: it mixes sounds so separate apps can produce sounds at the same time.  decent sound cards do this for you in the hardware, but if you don't have one of those you need software like esd to emulate it.
[08:02] <sewoyl> Red-Sox, probably the evil thing that started talking ads on the internet - they scare me each time I hear them
[08:03] <cristian23> anyone using multiseat?
[08:03] <LaserJock> devin__: us.archive.ubuntu.com work for me
[08:03] <Red-Sox> trappist: my gaming computer has a good sound card, but i too scared to dual boot that expensive machine
[08:03] <miguelanxo> Bye!
[08:04] <Red-Sox> sewoyl: lol
[08:04] <jandusion> NoUse, i get an error message from skype...
[08:04] <LathropWells> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[08:04] <LathropWells>    and sh RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[08:04] <LathropWells>  don't seem to work what else should i try?
[08:05] <jah_raztah> yeaaa.... i just got the breezy cds int eh mail
[08:05] <jah_raztah> even though it's so late
[08:05] <jah_raztah> that i downloaded them already
[08:05] <mwe> LathropWells: maybe it's not a script
[08:05] <LathropWells> jah_, - sounds great WELCOME!
[08:06] <jandusion> how do i install skype from terminal
[08:06] <mwe> LathropWells: have you tried chmod +x the file and then executing it?
[08:06] <jah_raztah> I'm going to distrobute the breezy cds to as many ppl i can to convert them from xp to breezy
[08:06] <LathropWells> mwe - lol - the instructions are plain, simple, and wrong on the realplayer site. - lol
[08:06] <mwe> I see
[08:06] <jah_raztah> as for the drapper, rather then ordering i'm just gunna download the iso
[08:07] <LathropWells> yes - actually chmod a+x
[08:07] <calamari> I'm trying to open a java jar from the desktop.. this used to work but not anymore.  Any troubleshooting ideas?
[08:07] <ni1s> Dose anyone know of any howtos or docs on speeding up gnome?
[08:07] <LathropWells> mwe - Thank You.
[08:07] <mwe> LathropWells: so it worked?
[08:08] <LathropWells> nah - i'll find a plug-in or something for ram files - lol
[08:08] <mwe> yeah
[08:08] <marlun> Is there any good dvd copying apps for ubuntu?
[08:09] <LathropWells> dvdrip?
[08:09] <jah_raztah> ok, so i did a server install, got gnome and other things e.t.c... but now when i click lock screen nothing happens, is there a package i need tog et for lock screen to work?
[08:09] <Red-Sox> trappist , aet: thank you soooooooooooooo much
[08:10] <marlun> LathropWells, maybe? =) I don't want it to the computer but to another dvd, but I guess maybe you take it to the computer first and then back to another dvd?
[08:10] <LathropWells> acidrip
[08:10] <aet> Red-Sox: np
[08:11] <ni1s> Im bored, is there any cool linux games out there?
[08:11] <AMDXP> gotta reboot brb
[08:11] <aet> ni1s: www.happypenguin.org
[08:11] <marlun> LathropWells, acidrip? ok, for both taking it to the computer and back to the dvd?
[08:11] <ubuntu> !tell ubuntu reps
[08:12] <trappist> ubuntu: /msg ubotu repos
[08:13] <ubuntu> no response
[08:13] <eedge> ubotu doesn't  like you :)
[08:13] <ubotu> eedge: What?
[08:13] <jah_raztah> i did a server install, got gnome and other things e.t.c... but now when i click lock screen nothing happens, is there a package i need to get for lock screen to work? I see the icon under System > Lock Screen
[08:14] <Ethaniel> lol
[08:14] <Ethaniel>  //msg may be nloked no ?
[08:14] <Greeboo> yeah. ubuntu doesn't like me :(
[08:14] <jah_raztah> or do i need to get xscreansavers-gl?
[08:14] <bamboo> hi
[08:14] <Ethaniel> try rather ubotu, question?
[08:14] <jah_raztah> hi bamboo
[08:14] <Ethaniel> ubotu, hi?
[08:14] <ubotu> hi!
[08:14] <bamboo> what's the easiest way to play windows media audio files on ubuntu?
[08:14] <Ethaniel> wincodecs
[08:14] <Ethaniel> :p
[08:15] <jandusion> can any1 help me installs skype via the terminal
[08:15] <jah_raztah> wma files work with mplayer if you have the w32codecs
[08:15] <jah_raztah> and xmms
[08:15] <jjazz> bamboo, you need the marillat w32codecs
[08:15] <jah_raztah> !ubotu tell bamboo about w32codec
[08:16] <bamboo> thanks jah_raztah
[08:16] <bamboo> thanks jjazz
[08:16] <bamboo> thanks Ethaniel
[08:17] <jjazz> Folks, I have a Breezy box here that I put apache2 on.  I apt-getted apache2 and did /etc/init.d/apache2 start, but localhost:80 is refusing connections.  If I do sudo apache2, localhost answers.  What is the correct way to start and stop apache2 in Ubuntu, if not via the script in /etc/init.d?
[08:17] <NoUse> jjazz did you run the init.d script with sudo?
[08:18] <jjazz> NoUse, yes
[08:18] <DShepherd> jandusion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype?highlight=%28skype%29 <-- installing skype
[08:18] <LaserJock> what is the difference between vim-gnome2 and vim-gtk?
[08:18] <NoUse> jjazz did it say it started apache correctly?
[08:18] <Red-Sox> is there a theme for gnome that makes it look like osx?
[08:18] <jjazz> NoUse, the script was silent when I ran it.
[08:19] <nalioth> Red-Sox: visit gnome-look.org
[08:19] <Red-Sox> naloith: okay, thank you!
[08:19] <jjazz> NoUse, the script prints a message if I do 'stop', but not 'start' or 'restart'.  In the case of stop, it tells me it's stopping apache2.
[08:19] <welp_ubuntu> my resolution is wrong, the highest non-widescreen resolution i can have is 1024x784
[08:19] <NoUse> jjazz I would check ps aux or top after running the init.d script and see if apache is running, if it is, check the server
[08:19] <welp_ubuntu> i want more!
[08:19] <NoUse> server logs*
[08:20] <jjazz> NoUse, ps aux | grep apache gives nothing
[08:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell welp_ubuntu about fixres
[08:20] <bamboo> and talking about encodings, what's the best free enconder for ripping my cd collection?
[08:20] <bamboo> (:
[08:20] <jandusion> how do i kill synaptic
[08:20] <NoUse> jjazz check the logs
[08:20] <welp_ubuntu> nalioth, lol thanks
[08:20] <NoUse> jandusion sudo killall synaptic
[08:21] <jandusion> NoUse, ty
[08:21] <DShepherd> jjazz: ps -aux.... did you type that
[08:21] <Blippe> turn off and on two screens witout restarting x, is that possible???
[08:21] <Red-Sox> nalioth: is there a program that pulls themes off that website like gnome art does from art.gnome.org?
[08:21] <DShepherd> jjazz: neva mind...it should matter
[08:21] <YeTr2> ... stupid machine keeps choaking on the nvidia module :(
[08:22] <jjazz> NoUse, the only error in apache's logs concern a 404.  They're from when I started apache2 directly.
[08:22] <DShepherd> shouldnt*
[08:22] <varsendagger> hey
[08:23] <_ted> i would like to install freenx from seveas, but it won't let me in. How do I get the correct freenx packages for breezy?
[08:23] <jjazz> I just don't understand why apache2 would start from the command line, but not the script.  It's weird.
[08:23] <NoUse> jjazz something is broken with that script then
[08:23] <nalioth> Red-Sox: there is, actaully. 'gnome-art'
[08:23] <jjazz> NoUse, yes.  I agree.  OK.  I''m going to purge and reinstall.  See if that helps.
[08:23] <Seveas> _ted, it should let you in now
[08:23] <_ted> thanks!
[08:24] <jah_raztah> anyone know what package i need to get inorder for lock screen to work, this is important casue i have people int he house that like to mess around with linux while i'm away...
[08:24] <jjazz> jah_raztah, xscreensaver
[08:24] <jah_raztah> i have that package already
[08:24] <Ethaniel> there is 2
[08:24] <Ethaniel> but I dunno
[08:24] <jjazz> jah_raztah, then you're good to go
[08:24] <jah_raztah> well i'm going to lock screen and it doesn't work
[08:25] <_ted> im' getting 403 forbidden trying to install freenx from seveas.
[08:25] <dle> jjazz - did you try apache2ctl ?
[08:25] <jjazz> jah_raztah, man xscreensaver
[08:25] <jjazz> dle, Nope.  Not yet.
[08:25] <Seveas> _ted, weird, I just disabled that...
[08:25] <jah_raztah> ok so read that
[08:25] <Ethaniel> with the default install of unbuntu with gnome you can lock the screen
[08:25] <d03boy> anyone know why my java compiler cant find Java/util/Scanner?
[08:26] <Ethaniel> there is java varaible
[08:26] <Ethaniel> to set
[08:26] <Red-Sox> nalioth: AWESOME!
[08:26] <d03boy> oh
[08:26] <orbx> does anyone know how to install flash player 7 on ubuntu, im having some problems
[08:26] <Seveas> _ted, try again
[08:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell orbx about flash
[08:26] <Ethaniel> but can you use other class?
[08:26] <german> hi, guys, do you like the new checklist at starting ubuntu??
[08:26] <d03boy> Ethaniel, i dont know, this is the first thing ive compiled
[08:26] <_ted> seveas, working now!
[08:26] <d03boy> Ethaniel, i haveversion 1.5 installed
[08:26] <d03boy> probably the env varaible
[08:27] <Red-Sox> nalioth: I thought that pulls themes from art.gnome.com?
[08:27] <d03boy> do you know how to set it?
[08:27] <jah_raztah> maybe i needed to remove gnome-screensaver
[08:27] <german> :)
[08:27] <Red-Sox> .org*
[08:27] <nalioth> Red-Sox: i believe it does
[08:27] <Ethaniel> d03boy, you have to set somes variables and to include the class at the beginning of the files
[08:27] <orbx> ubotu: is it possible to install flash player 7?
[08:27] <ubotu> Not a clue, orbx
[08:27] <damg> what does ChipID in xorg.conf do?
[08:27] <Red-Sox> nalioth: and gnome-look.com?
[08:27] <jah_raztah> ok it works like a charm now
[08:27] <orbx> ok thank you ubotu
[08:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell orbx about yourself
[08:27] <NoUse> orbx ubotu is a bot
[08:27] <d03boy> Ethaniel, import you mean?
[08:27] <nalioth> Red-Sox: not sure about gnome-look
[08:27] <d03boy> Ethaniel, it doesnt sound like java problem... it sounds like an ubuntu problem
[08:27] <NoUse> !tell orbx about flash
[08:27] <orbx> NoUse: LOL sorry im dumb
[08:27] <Ethaniel> er ... yes, the key word in java must be import sorry
[08:27] <d03boy> Ethaniel, .. or a problem with how I have it installed
[08:27] <jah_raztah> u need xscreensaver, but u need to make sure u dont have gnome-screensaver install
[08:27] <damg> orbx: ;)
[08:28] <jah_raztah> for lock to work
[08:28] <Red-Sox> nalioth: oooohhh, I was looking at that website
[08:28] <nalioth> orbx: you got a private msg (or two) from ubotu please read it
[08:28] <Red-Sox> what exactly is a gtk2 engine theme?
[08:28] <Mars^> :/ So noonne know how to rum 5.1 sound system?
[08:29] <Ethaniel> d03boy, have you been able to make a *.class without using extern class ? By extern I mean, class you didn't write yourself
[08:30] <d03boy> Ethaniel, i just told you this was the first thing I've tried... I rpobably  just need to set a path varaible, but I dont konw how
[08:30] <marlun> If I install application "a" which depends on "b" and "c", if I later want to uninstall "a" then "b" and "c" will be left behind on the harddrive even when they are not needed right?
[08:30] <welp_ubuntu> what's 256Mb in Kb
[08:30] <welp_ubuntu> ?
[08:30] <Red-Sox> where is '~/.themes' located?
[08:30] <d03boy> welp, multiply by 1024 I think?
[08:30] <orbx> lol thanks nalioth
[08:30] <jjazz> Seveas, as long as you're here... I upgraded to Breezy on this box, and freenx upgraded with it.  nxclient then couldn't connect because it couldn't set a cookie.  I fixed it with cd /usr/X11R6/bin; sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/xauth.  This is something the install script might want to do for users.
[08:30] <dle> marlun: yes.
[08:31] <nalioth> Red-Sox: your home directory is shortcutted using ~/    so ~/.themes is /home/red-sox/.themes
[08:31] <nitrocks> how do i go about chaning the default colors of windows and such in ubuntu?
[08:31] <jjazz> Seveas, I'm not sure if that's a freenx thing or something that got munged in the wider install, but it seemed like the freenx package might be the place to address it.
[08:31] <nitrocks> is there a place where i can go in and edit the themes?
[08:31] <marlun> Well, if I mark something for uninstall in the packet manager which other programs depend on, it won't let me install it without telling me right?
[08:32] <nalioth> marlun: correct
[08:32] <Red-Sox> nalioth: oh, okay, is there a way to skip straight to that folder?
[08:32] <Seveas> jjazz, you should use the nxclient package from my repo on breezy
[08:32] <calamari> nitrocks: afaik you can only edit them by hand, not through a gui.. although you can mix & match major theme components
[08:32] <Blippe> how do i setup one computer to accept two mice (one ps/2 and one serial)?
[08:32] <Slaj_R> Question:  I created a directory on an NTFS partition of an external HD while working in WindowsXP.  Now, from Ubuntu, the directory shows up in Nautilus, but I get a permission denied error, even when using "sudo chmod -r."
[08:32] <nalioth> Red-Sox: open a terminal and type "cd .themes"
[08:32] <d03boy> RainfallHistogramTest.java:1: error:Cannot find class "java/util/Scanner" [JLS 7.5.2 7.6]
[08:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Red-Sox about cli
[08:32] <jjazz> Seveas, ah.  OK.  I think this box has the nomachine client .deb on it.
[08:32] <nitrocks> calamari: i see.. i only reall wish to change the default colors of all the windows and such to black
[08:32] <Red-Sox> nalioth: thank you
[08:33] <Seveas> that has indeed the error you described :)
[08:33] <nalioth> Slaj_R: it's not a chmod problem, it's a fstab permissions problem
[08:33] <Ethaniel> d03boy, I know there is 2 variables javapath and classpath but I would not been able to tell you exactly how you have to set them
[08:33] <nitrocks> how involved would that be?..
[08:33] <Red-Sox> nalioth: you must be losing your patience with me
[08:33] <calamari> nitrocks: you may be able to download a new theme that looks more like what you want
[08:33] <Slaj_R> oops, never mind.  I needed to use a capital "-R."
[08:33] <jjazz> Seveas, thanks
[08:33] <nitrocks> calamari: any reccomendations in the way of theme repositories?
[08:33] <d03boy> oh, javac seems to be only v1.2
[08:34] <calamari> nitrocks: no.. sorry.. but I bet someone here knows
[08:34] <Ethaniel> lol
[08:34] <Ethaniel> Scanner is from the 5.0
[08:34] <Ethaniel> that could be areason
[08:34] <d03boy> well wtf
[08:34] <nalioth> Red-Sox: my level of patience is only exceeded by the universe
[08:34] <d03boy> how can I upgrade this thing?
[08:34] <leon> Hi all
[08:34] <marlun> nalioth, then when I install "a" which depend on "b" and "c" I can note those two apps/libs and later if I uninstall "a" I can also try to uninstall "b" and "c" to clean up a little? =)
[08:34] <Red-Sox> nalioth: wow, thats a lot o' patience
[08:34] <d03boy> Version 2.1B released 17. July 2002
[08:34] <leon> I can't find emacs-snapshot for breezy. Any ideas?
[08:34] <Ethaniel> you can istall directly from sun
[08:34] <nalioth> marlun: "apt-get clean" may do what you wish
[08:35] <Ethaniel> but with ubuntu I am not sure
[08:35] <Slaj_R> Wait, on second thought, even after chmod 755, I get an I/O error.
[08:35] <nalioth> Slaj_R: as i said, it's a fstab permission problem
[08:35] <anavim> void patience() {patience();}
[08:35] <anavim> :)
[08:35] <Red-Sox> nalioth: uhoh, im not getting something
[08:35] <marlun> nalioth, ah! =) that reminds me that I found a tutorial on apt-get I'll read it :)
[08:35] <Slaj_R> nalioth:  Suggestions?
[08:36] <nalioth> Slaj_R: change your fstab permissions so any user (or just you) can access the partition
[08:36] <german> n #ubuntu-es
[08:36] <orbx> is gplflash, macromedia flash or just a standered flash player?
[08:37] <german> hi, everybody
[08:37] <Slaj_R> nalioth:  I've never done that.  Is there a config file somewhere?
[08:37] <german> i've installed amarok but can't hear any song
[08:37] <german> any ideas??
[08:37] <nalioth> Slaj_R: in your terminal, type "man fstab"
[08:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Slaj_R about cli
[08:38] <wonder> root@home:~# apt-get install mc
[08:38] <wonder> Reading package lists... Done
[08:38] <wonder> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:38] <wonder> E: Couldn't find package mc
[08:38] <wonder> why?
[08:38] <wonder> i have ubuntu amd654
[08:38] <Red-Sox> !tell wonder about paste
[08:38] <wonder> i have ubuntu amd64
[08:38] <nalioth> orbx: gplflash is an open source flash analogue
[08:38] <nalioth> wonder: please dont paste in here, (read channel /topic s when you enter please)
[08:38] <wonder> ok sorry
[08:38] <nalioth> wonder: enable your universe and multiverse repositories and you'll find 1000s more programs
[08:39] <RuffianSoldier> wonder - you prolly arent using universe
[08:39] <Red-Sox> nalioth: hm...i still dont see that folder...
[08:39] <nalioth> Red-Sox: make it
[08:39] <nalioth> Red-Sox: create it
[08:39] <damg> aah, ati driver installer tells me that i have no kernel build environment - what do i need to install?
[08:39] <Red-Sox> nalioth: you say it should be in my home folder eh?
[08:39] <wonder> 10x
[08:39] <nalioth> Red-Sox: did you get the cli msg from ubotu?
[08:39] <Xcerca> what do you do if you forget the su password ?
[08:39] <nalioth> Xcerca: you shouldnt be using su
[08:39] <RuffianSoldier> Xcerca - sudo -s
[08:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Xcerca about root
[08:40] <RuffianSoldier> sudo -s            then your user password
[08:40] <nalioth> Xcerca: the root account is disabled in ubuntu for a reason
[08:40] <Red-Sox> nalioth: yes, yes, it all seemed jibiresh, but  I just skimmed it, so ill read it more carefully right now
[08:40] <Greeboo> ubotu: tell Greebo about root
[08:40] <varsendagger> sudo vi /etc/passwd and delete the x in root:x: blah blah
[08:40] <tobi-wan> hi folks... i just installed xcdroast and it tells me i can't burn dvds unless i install prodvd... didn't find that package, though....
[08:40] <varsendagger> and then sudo su
[08:40] <nalioth> Red-Sox: open a terminal and type "mkdir .themes"
[08:40] <Greeboo> hey, this bot is seriously cool
[08:40] <Red-Sox> nalioth: will do
[08:41] <varsendagger> and run passwd again
[08:41] <varsendagger> -- as su
[08:41] <nalioth> tobi-wan: prodvd is not free software. use k3b
[08:41] <nalioth> Versedtoo: please do not advise that
[08:41] <tobi-wan> nalioth: i'd like to avoid kde-libs in my system :-)
[08:41] <nalioth> Versedtoo: this is ubuntu, not debian or redhat, we use sudo here
[08:41] <Red-Sox> nalioth: but...I need to add something to that folder.
[08:41] <varsendagger> i did like three times
[08:41] <nalioth> tobi-wan: search for prodvd using google
[08:42] <tobi-wan> nalioth: thanks though, i guess i'll try my luck with gnomebaker, i don't want non-free software either :-)
[08:42] <Arjan> hey guysi
[08:42] <nalioth> tobi-wan: prodvd is written by goerg schilling (who wrote cdrecord) and is free for personal use
[08:42] <varsendagger> for everyone involved running any application or doing anything as root is not a wise idea, you will eventually do something that you can't und and it will be sad and you will cry
[08:43] <nick01> I need a program to burn cds with
[08:43] <Moo-> how can I start Gnome after I have connected to my box over SSH and with a local X server? I have only one terminal window open.
[08:43] <nick01> what should I use ?
[08:43] <nalioth> nick01: gnomebacker, graveman or k3b
[08:43] <jsz> nick01, k3b
[08:43] <nick01> in gnome ?
[08:43] <Xcerca> nalioth  what reason is that?
[08:43] <jsz> in anything
[08:43] <blackhat> when I mount NTFS partition its readonly, how can I get write access to it?
[08:44] <void^> boot windows
[08:44] <Moo-> blackhat: you can't
[08:44] <blackhat> yes you can, i did with other distros.
[08:44] <jsz> blackhat, it's not a good idea to write to NTFS and FAT partitions from Linux.
[08:44] <Moo-> blackhat: there is NTFS write support because there are NTFS documents
[08:44] <blackhat> its something with NTFS Write Support in the Kernel
[08:44] <Moo-> blackhat: it's not a real write support
[08:44] <blackhat> =/
[08:44] <Moo-> blackhat: you can only overwrite existing files with a same size
[08:44] <nalioth> Xcerca: to keep new to *nix users from botching their systems too easily, for one
[08:44] <nick01> nalioth, I can't find gnomebacker on freshmeat
[08:44] <tobi-wan> nick01: gnomebaker
[08:45] <erUSUL> jsz, FAT partitions are fine
[08:45] <nalioth> jsz: you can write all you like to fat32 partitions
[08:45] <nick01> k
[08:45] <nalioth> nick01: dont use freshmeat, use synaptic
[08:45] <Arjan> I'm having a problem after upgrading to breezy: X doesn't want to start
[08:45] <tobi-wan> Arjan: any error messages?
[08:45] <Arjan> I have quit an old videocard, Riva TNT2, but it worked fine at hoary
[08:45] <jsz> nick01: use apt-get install gnomebaker
[08:46] <guest> hey, how do I make beagle index MS word files?
[08:46] <Arjan> open /dev/fb1: No such file or directory
[08:46] <Arjan> and that continues til fb7
[08:46] <jsz> Arjan, quite*
[08:46] <erUSUL> Arjan, tail -n 25 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:46] <nick01> jsz, it's not in the repository
[08:46] <Arjan> then, I get NV(0)> Failed to open framebuffer device
[08:46] <jsz> nick01 then edit sources.list or use k3b
[08:46] <jsz> stop winging
[08:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nick01 about repis
[08:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nick01 about repos
[08:46] <Red-Sox> nalioth: maybe, to be more spacific, ill show you what i am trying to do http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548
[08:47] <nalioth> nick01: read your priv msg from uboto and enable universe and multiverse repos
[08:47] <nalioth> Red-Sox: i'm not up on themes (i'm quite boring)
[08:47] <Arjan> erUSUL, as I just wrote.. those were the significant error messages
[08:47] <Arjan> or basically, all errormessages :(
[08:47] <marlun> how is new programs added to the repository? For example X-Chat 2.6.0 is released but in the repository theres only 2.4.4, are new versions not added untill they are tested some but the community?
[08:47] <nick01> k
[08:47] <Xcerca> what plugings do you need to install for wmv/mpeg/avi ?
[08:47] <Arjan> now using console IRC for the first time :-\
[08:47] <tobi-wan> Arjan: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=205530
[08:48] <Arjan> tobi-wan, hmm, is that lynx-supported?
[08:48] <nalioth> marlun: ubuntu has 'freeze dates' for each version. programs that make it in before that date make it in, and the newer version wait til the next freeze
[08:48] <Red-Sox> nalioth: but, do you know how to do that?
[08:48] <Red-Sox> nalioth: and if you want to, instruct me how to
[08:48] <tobi-wan> Arjan: in short, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Option "UseFBDev" "true" to "false"
[08:48] <Arjan> hehe, that's not too hard
[08:49] <nalioth> Red-Sox: it looks quite simple to me
[08:49] <tobi-wan> hopefully not :-)
[08:49] <nalioth> Red-Sox: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:49] <marlun> nalioth, oh, so the repository is not updated only when new releases of ubuntu is released?
[08:49] <dle> Hi.  How do I get the auto-updater applet running in Breezy?  I have done System->Administration->Update Manager->Preferences->Settings and checked 'Automatically check...'.
[08:49] <^DaVe> any1 know a different windows platform other than cedega/wine?
[08:49] <marlun> nalioth, sorry for that mess of sentence, the "not" was not supposed to be there.
[08:49] <nick01> nalioth, what's multiverse ?
[08:49] <Chousuke> there are only Wine forks.
[08:49] <Chousuke> and reactos
[08:50] <Red-Sox> nalioth...that channel ist working for me.../join kubuntu-offtopic, right?
[08:51] <nalioth> Red-Sox: all irc channels begin with #
[08:51] <Red-Sox> aaaahh
[08:51] <Red-Sox> i forgot
[08:51] <Arjan> tobi-wan, Can i just start X then, or do I need to restart?
[08:51] <nalioth> nick01: multiverse is a repository full of programs
[08:51] <Moo-> are there instructions how to get nice X11 remote Gnome sessions for Ubuntu?
[08:51] <tobi-wan> Arjan: X
[08:51] <nick01> k
[08:52] <Arjan> xinit?
[08:52] <nick01> nalioth, backports from what ?
[08:52] <Arjan> Damn, it's really too long ago
[08:52] <tobi-wan> ^DaVe: you could try bochs, too, though that is more of an x386 emulator, you'd have to completely install windows within it (didn't work for me, but that was app. 1 year ago)
[08:52] <tobi-wan> Arjan: or /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:52] <nalioth> nick01: backports are not multiverse
[08:52] <tobi-wan> Arjan: but yes, xinit should do
[08:52] <^DaVe> cool ty
[08:52] <nick01> hmm k
[08:52] <yohan> how do i disable the annoying terminal beeps in rxvt?
[08:52] <Arjan> tobi-wan, thanks!!
[08:52] <Arjan> it works again :)
[08:52] <RuffianSoldier> how do I switch to universe in Synaptic? which repos do I edit?
[08:52] <nalioth> nick01: backports are versions of programs that will come with the next version of ubuntu, available on this version
[08:52] <Arjan> off to xchat instead of nirc
[08:52] <freemanen> how do i install jre2?
[08:52] <tobi-wan> Arjan: no prob, my pleasure
[08:53] <freemanen> I have a respotiaress for itbefore but not now
[08:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell freemanen about java
[08:54] <erUSUL> !tell RuffianSoldier about repos
[08:54] <nick01> nalioth, I only have backports multiverse
[08:54] <marlun> I'm using streamripper, but if I want to close it, how do I close it? =) (I don't want it to keep going in the background as i read "wget" could do)
[08:55] <pirving> tell me, in Breezy did they go away from the debian install that takes hours downloading?
[08:55] <sockpuppe1> is there a new java?
[08:55] <pirving> What is this new OEM install?
[08:55] <Ethaniel> the last is 5.0
[08:55] <Ethaniel> for java
[08:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nick01 about sources
[08:55] <nalioth> marlun: i dont understand
[08:55] <pirx> how do i make blackbox start a few programs when i log in? i have stuff in .xinitrc but it doesnt seem to exec that
[08:55] <sockpuppe1> Anyone ave an idea when the new xfce gets to repos
[08:56] <pirving> I'm using MEPIS, but I heard maybe they got rid of the Debian Like installer.  MEPIS is a boot disk that just copies over
[08:56] <marlun> nalioth, I think ctrl+c worked :)
[08:56] <NoUse> pirving they still use the debian installer
[08:56] <nalioth> marlun: it usually does
[08:56] <Arjan> so, there I am again..
[08:56] <marlun> :)
[08:56] <dducko> Just a quick question, For a distro update..  Change Sources, apt-get update, and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:56] <Arjan> seems like it's still not perfect :(
[08:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dducko about breezy
[08:57] <nick01> !easysource
[08:57] <ubotu> from memory, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:57] <Arjan> mozilla doesn't give me any fonts, although other apps look okay
[08:57] <Ethan> pirx, look at documentation :p fo fb it is startup
[08:57] <madmike> anyone have an idea how to migration old mail from evolution -> thunderbird?
[08:57] <yohan> how do i disable the annoying terminal beeps in rxvt? help!
[08:57] <pirving> Arjan: Upgrade to 1.5 RC 2
[08:57] <pirving> www.getfirefox.org
[08:57] <rel> Hey guys, I have a PowerBook G4 running a dual OSX/Breezy boot, and I know that my airport express card is not supported, but that there is one apple card that is supported, does anyone know where I can find out what that card is?
[08:57] <Arjan> pirving, thanks, but it must be more serious than that. It happened after upgrading to breezy
[08:58] <pirx> Ethan: fo fb? docs for what? is it gdm that handles the logins per default?
[08:58] <Arjan> got some trouble getting X to start again, which still seems not to work perfectly
[08:58] <Arjan> I think it's a font problem somewhere not directly in mozilla
[08:58] <Ethan> pirx, fluxbox, you was talking about blackbox, no?
[08:58] <dducko> !dapper
[08:58] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[08:58] <RuffianSoldier> where is the sources.list located at?
[08:58] <Arjan> I'll just try a restart first
[08:59] <dducko>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:59] <madmike> any idea how to migration old mail from evolution -> thunderbird?
[08:59] <Ethan> pirx, fluxbox is based on blackbox
[09:00] <erUSUL> RuffianSoldier, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:00] <pirx> Ethan: aha fluxbox. why should i sitch to fb?
[09:00] <nick01> I get this error in synaptic:
[09:00] <nick01> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ro.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:01] <nick01> ] warning whatever
[09:01] <Ethan> pirx, I dunno lol blackbox is older
[09:01] <dducko> You have a source listed 2 times
[09:01] <Blippe> is there a way to switch xserver on the fly?
[09:01] <Storm1> HI
[09:01] <nick01> which one \?
[09:01] <Storm1> i orders some lunux cds how long do hey take to come?
[09:01] <NoUse> Blippe as in not having to reboot?
[09:02] <dducko> Read the error, nick01  You can remove it by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:02] <pirx> Ethan: yeah, i dont know what, but there was something i didnt like about fb last i tried it. but i dont see how that would fix my problem? does fb have a file of its own about which progs to start?
[09:02] <blackhat> Storm1 ; my friend waited a month for his discs.
[09:02] <madmike> need to migration mails from evolution -> thunderbird, any ideas?
[09:02] <Storm1> can sok thanks i order 40pc one and dat
[09:03] <NoUse> madmike have you googled?
[09:03] <Ethan> pirx, not exactly 3 files startup < style < init
[09:03] <madmike> yeah i did
[09:03] <Stormx2> May be possible to export/import .xml files?
[09:03] <german> hi,
[09:03] <Storm1> i orded 40 pc ones
[09:03] <tobi-wan> madmike: http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/09/10/1446217&tid=37&tid=101
[09:03] <Ethan> pirx, generally you use startup to start program
[09:03] <german> i can't read mp3 !???!!
[09:03] <tobi-wan> took 20 sec of google
[09:03] <basti> Hi
[09:03] <Stormx2> !mp3
[09:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:03] <dducko> !mp3
[09:03] <Storm1> im going to hand them out to my emploeyees
[09:03] <Stormx2> Too late ;-)
[09:03] <basti> whats the root password ?
[09:03] <NoUse> madmike not very hard http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/How_to_import_Evolution_mail_into_Thunderbird
[09:03] <Stormx2> !root
[09:03] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:03] <nick01> dducko, well - I removed the multiverse sources and I no longer get the error but it was only once
[09:03] <pirx> Ethan: oki, will try fb, thanks
[09:03] <Blippe> NoUse as not having to really turn of x
[09:03] <dducko> Ther eisnt one BasL
[09:03] <madmike> tobi-wan i read it.. but this didn't seem to work
[09:03] <basti> (i need it for the su command)
[09:03] <NoUse> Blippe no
[09:03] <tobi-wan> madmike: hmmmm....
[09:04] <german> thanks
[09:04] <basti> hm
[09:04] <Red-Sox> how do you open directories found in the terminal in nautalus?
[09:04] <madmike> tobi-wan did you use this guide once?
[09:04] <Blippe> to bad
[09:04] <Stormx2> basti: Read what ubotu just put.
[09:04] <dducko> tell basti about root
[09:04] <Ethan> pirx, look at #fluxbox
[09:04] <basti> so kpackahge doesnt work
[09:04] <tobi-wan> madmike: no, i just found it :-) i stick to evolution
[09:04] <rel> Does anyone know why no one can make drivers for the Broadcom airport cards for Apple? I know they don't release specs or anything, but why hasn't someone reverse engineered it yet? That struck me as odd...
[09:04] <basti> yeah, i read it
[09:04] <Stormx2> OK
[09:04] <ompaul> Red-Sox, click on them
[09:04] <tobi-wan> madmike: what went wrong?
[09:04] <Stormx2> Well
[09:04] <Ethan> pirx, maybe bb is good too but I don't know....
[09:04] <Stormx2> You can enable root if you really need it, otherwise use sudo.
[09:05] <tobi-wan> madmike: but there seem to be a plentiful of guides :-)
[09:05] <Red-Sox> ompaul: sounds logical
[09:05] <german> Ubuntu has NO mp3 supprot!???
[09:05] <madmike> tobi-wan I copied my 'Inbox' file to my 'Local'-folder but Thunderbird didn't show my emails on the next start
[09:05] <NoUse> !tell german about mp3
[09:05] <nick01> ubotu: tell nick01 about codecs
[09:05] <german> but in Hoary i used to play mp3's
[09:05] <Stormx2> german: Read!
[09:05] <avb> rel: there is no drivers for that device for linux
[09:05] <Stormx2> german: It HAS got MP3 support. Read what ubotu just sent you.
[09:05] <Stormx2> german: I'm listening to MP3s right now.
[09:05] <Ethan> pirx, did you use startx ? .initrc is only when you use this cmd
[09:05] <madmike> tobi-wan the one us showed me is the only one i found.. and it seems a bit outdated and unprecise
[09:06] <NoUse> german they can't include mp3 support by default thanks to patents
[09:06] <avb> rel: thats why i sold my ibook and bought asus notebook
[09:06] <NoUse> german but read the link and you'll be fine
[09:06] <nrs> is there anyway to run the original network configuration script that first ran when I installed ubuntu - I don't have x installed so I can't take advatage of the GUI tools
[09:06] <Stormx2> God bless american software patents.
[09:06] <german> ok, thanks
[09:06] <tobi-wan> madmike: but there's a precise line how to copy your mail folders
[09:06] <varsendagger> ubotu: tell varsendagger about mp3's
[09:06] <ompaul> Stormx2, at least use an ironic smiley :-/         <<---  ;-)
[09:06] <varsendagger> ubotu: tell varsendagger about mp3
[09:07] <tobi-wan> madmike: and it's not just copying inbox to local
[09:07] <avb> nrs: try base-install
[09:07] <nrs> thanks
[09:07] <Blippe> NoUse as xrandr does :P
[09:07] <NoUse> !tell varsendagger about yourself
[09:07] <madmike> tobi-wan: wait a mo.. i'll explain which file i copied
[09:07] <dducko> !tell varsendagger about /msg the bot
[09:07] <basti> is there a tool that can install DEB FIles for Gnome?
[09:07] <tobi-wan> madmike: i googled for "migrate evolution to thunderbird" and there's a wealth of guides to choose from
[09:07] <NoUse> Blippe what?
[09:07] <jjazz> NoUse, FYI, I deleted the script, reinstalled apache2-common, and all seems fine.  Thanks for the advice earlier.
[09:07] <Stormx2> ompaul: Ya ;-) You have to be a little silly to think i was being sincere though lol
[09:08] <NoUse> jjazz glad it's working
[09:08] <varsendagger> dducko, how do i /msg the bot?
[09:08] <ompaul> basti, why not download the gnome tool it will be native more than 99% of the time
[09:08] <Blippe> you could use xrandr to change resolutions, that is pretty much what I wanna do...
[09:08] <Stormx2>  /msg ubotu <word>
[09:08] <ompaul> basti, use syanaptic
[09:08] <NoUse> varsendagger read the link ubotu sent you
[09:08] <jandusion> selinium, are you there??
[09:08] <dducko> Are you registrered varsendagger ?
[09:08] <Stormx2> My MP3s don't skip anymore :D
[09:08] <dducko> You Nick
[09:08] <basti> ompaul,  i have it, but it doesnt allow to install local binaries
[09:08] <Blippe> I have to check if there is a tool like it which could turn of my second display
[09:09] <Katsumoto> does any1 know which key combinations I need to press in order to save changes to a .conf file when I'm in nano ?
[09:09] <ompaul> jandusion, I can say with a great deal of certainty selinium is cooking food and then eating it
[09:09] <Stormx2> ubuntu is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | talk; wine; talk; touch; unzip; touch; strip; gasp; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; gasp; umount; make clean; sleep;
[09:10] <ompaul> basti, you created it yourself or downloaded it?
[09:10] <basti> downloaded it
[09:10] <basti> in this case its opera
[09:10] <jandusion> ompaul, ok hmm he told me a way go get skype by typening wget and something in terminal. do you now anything about that?
[09:10] <erUSUL> Katsumoto, the combinations are in the bottom part of the screen ^O (crtl + O)
[09:11] <Katsumoto> oke thanks :)
[09:11] <ompaul> jandusion, in a min
[09:11] <dducko> !tell jandusion about skype
[09:11] <tobi-wan> i need a (music-) cd-managing app but can't seem to find a decent one... (gnome)
[09:11] <ompaul> basti, command line >>sudo dpkg -i package.deb<<
[09:11] <Stormx2> tobi-wan: Easy-tag can manage folders and such
[09:12] <tobi-wan> Stormx2: but can it also manage audio cd's like.... which cd's i own and which songs etc.?
[09:12] <Stormx2> tobi-wan: It can ID3v2 tag files, etc
[09:12] <ompaul> basti, applications accessories terminal
[09:12] <tobi-wan> Stormx2: i'm not necessarily talking 'bout mp3, but audio cds
[09:12] <basti> whats that?
[09:12] <Stormx2> tobi-wan: Hmm.
[09:12] <basti> or where can I get it?
[09:12] <tobi-wan> real, plain, beautiful, old-fashioned 44khz audio
[09:12] <varsendagger> dducko, no i am not registered is that the problem?
[09:13] <dducko> Yeah, you cant message him unless your registered
[09:13] <Arjan> X is working like a charm now again. The next app that isn' t working properly is mozilla-firefox though. It shows up without any fonts :-\
[09:13] <varsendagger> ahh
[09:13] <dducko> varsendagger, /msg nickserv help register
[09:13] <Stormx2> !register
[09:13] <ubotu> register is probably type /msg nickserv help register
[09:13] <ompaul> basti, that is where you can run that command line I sent you
[09:13] <varsendagger> do i do that throught ubuntu.org?
[09:13] <Arjan> so, I just see pictures, but nothing, nowhere
[09:13] <Stormx2> varsendagger: No
[09:13] <dducko> Hmm... brb....
[09:14] <Stormx2> varsendagger: Right here!
[09:14] <Arjan> no text in the menus, no text in the addressbar, no text in the websites I try to visit blindly
[09:14] <ompaul> varsendagger, read that Stormx2 had ubotu say :-)
[09:14] <Arjan> any idea?
[09:14] <NoUse> !tell varsendagger about regiseter
[09:14] <tobi-wan> Arjax: ehhm.... kind of broken theme for gnome?
[09:14] <NoUse> !tell varsendagger about register
[09:14] <tobi-wan> Arjan: is that possible?
[09:14] <nickel> i downloaded bitchx from bitchx.org but there no GUI
[09:14] <nickel> how do i get one w/ GUI for ubuntu
[09:14] <achilles> Hi people! Can anyone help me with my AMD 79c978 HomePNA? I can't get it to load with "options homepna=1" at boot time...
[09:14] <Arjan> tobi-wan: the errormessage it prints to terminal is (Gecko:8727): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed
[09:14] <nickel> i can only run it in terminal
[09:15] <NoUse> nickel xchat
[09:15] <nickel> i am on xchat now
[09:15] <nickel> but i dont like it
[09:15] <tobi-wan> Arjan: never heard, frankly
[09:15] <Arjan> darn
[09:15] <nickel> is there a way to install bitchx w/ gui instead
[09:15] <NoUse> nickel gaim does IRC
[09:15] <achilles> using 5.10
[09:15] <tobi-wan> but well....
[09:15] <Stormx2> bitchx can be installed from apt-get
[09:15] <Stormx2> "sudo apt-get install bitchx"
[09:15] <CaMeL> siema all
[09:15] <NoUse> Stormx2 he wants it to have a GUI
[09:15] <Arjan> i just did a apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox, but it didn' t help
[09:15] <NoUse> nickel bitchx is a console app
[09:16] <tobi-wan> Arjan: have you got libcairo2 installed?
[09:16] <tobi-wan> Arjan: just a blind try, though...
[09:16] <Stormx2> NoUse: I thought there might be an issue with downloading from the main site, thats all ;-)
[09:16] <Arjan> gonna check now
[09:16] <nickel> NoUse ive seen people with BitchX on GUI ;X
[09:16] <tobi-wan> Arjan: and if you're at it, check for pango, tooo
[09:16] <nickel> ;X
[09:16] <nickel> but thanks
[09:16] <nickel> ill try the apt-get
[09:16] <NoUse> nickel they run it in a term emulator in X
[09:16] <Stormx2> brb now I have ripping working I'm off to rip my Mad Capsule Markets cd ;D
[09:16] <CaMeL> I have had problem with kadu:/
[09:17] <Arjan> what IS pango? :)
[09:17] <CaMeL> but now it's working...uff
[09:17] <tobi-wan> Arjan: eh.... i believe it is a font-manager, but i am not sure
[09:17] <dducko> Is there an IRC chanel for those testing Dapper?
[09:17] <tobi-wan> Arjan: actually, according to apt, it's a library responsible for rendering text
[09:18] <german> thank you guys!!!
[09:18] <ompaul> jandusion, want me to dcc you the skype binary? you can ask anyone else for the md5sum of the seveas binary for skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[09:18] <tobi-wan> Arjan: probably that went bork during the upgrade
[09:18] <Arjan> It has something to do with fonts, but libpango-common and libpango1.0 are installed
[09:18] <Stormx2> dducko: Doesn't look like it.
[09:18] <Arjan> should I reinstall it?
[09:18] <tobi-wan> Arjan: and cairo?
[09:18] <german> i'm already listening to my music!! XD
[09:18] <CaMeL> How install the skype ??
[09:18] <jandusion> ompaul, sure if you can
[09:18] <CaMeL> for gnome:>
[09:18] <tobi-wan> Arjan: well... i don't think this will change anything.... btw: what did you do to your system?
[09:18] <Stormx2> !skype
[09:18] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:18] <Arjan> libcairo1 and libcairo 2 installed
[09:19] <Arjan> tobi-wan: I just put in the Breezy cd, and started synaptic :)
[09:19] <Arjan> then, clicked on upgrade
[09:19] <german> Stormx2,  NoUse  thanks for the help
[09:19] <tobi-wan> Arjan: that should have worked :-D
[09:19] <tobi-wan> Arjan: anyways... hm
[09:19] <dducko> Oh, well Im sure there will be one soon... Just did a dist-upgrade (on a second harddrive).. went flawlessly.. better then my hoary-breezy expierience
[09:19] <CaMeL> I thought that it's in the Add Aplication, but I was wrong:D
[09:19] <Arjan> but I fear I flushed a few config-files
[09:20] <nickel> nickel@laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install bitchx
[09:20] <nickel> Reading package lists... Done
[09:20] <nickel> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:20] <nickel> E: Couldn't find package bitchx
[09:20] <nickel> ;X
[09:20] <NoUse> nickel read the /topic, don't paste in here
[09:20] <nickel> sorry
[09:20] <nickel> didnt see that
[09:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nickel about repos
[09:20] <_jason> Hi everyone, does anyone know anything about turning auto-repeat on for mouse buttons?
[09:20] <NoUse> !info bitchx
[09:21] <nalioth> nickel: enable universe and multiverse repos and look again
[09:21] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1466 kB, Installed size: 6484 kB
[09:21] <nickel> nalioth, how do i do that
[09:21] <NoUse> nickel you need to enable the universe repo
[09:21] <nickel> turn on repos
[09:21] <tobi-wan> Arjan: search for ubuntu here: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2005/8567.html
[09:21] <NoUse> !tell nickel about repos
[09:21] <tobi-wan> quite interesting
[09:21] <painkiler> !info samba
[09:21] <ubotu> samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2332 kB, Installed size: 5928 kB
[09:21] <welp_ubuntu> nalioth, can i use ubotu?
[09:21] <NoUse> !tell welp_ubuntu about yourself
[09:21] <Seveas> welp_ubuntu, for which purpose?
[09:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell welp_ubuntu about msg the bot
[09:22] <nickel> anyways this might be a really retarded question but is there a way to get ASP working w/ my Apache?
[09:22] <Arjan> tobi-wan: suggestions for a temp alternative browser a bit more sophisticated than lynx?
[09:22] <nalioth> Arjan: links2
[09:22] <tobi-wan> Arjan: galeon
[09:22] <dducko> links2
[09:22] <nickel> i know how to get PHP running, trying to figure out if its possible to have ASP on a linux box
[09:23] <tobi-wan> nalioth, dducko: *rofl*
[09:23] <NoUse> nickel I think the mono project is working on it but I don't know
[09:23] <welp_ubuntu> cooool
[09:23] <Arjan> thanks guys :)
[09:23] <NoUse> nickel I've avoided ASP like the plague
[09:23] <welp_ubuntu> i like ubotu
[09:23] <tobi-wan> Arjan: galeon is definitively fine if you plan to stay with gnome
[09:23] <welp_ubuntu> :P
[09:23] <Arjan> i' ll try galeon :)
[09:23] <tobi-wan> Arjan: but it works for me, that's what i find strange
[09:23] <nalioth> tobi-wan: the question was " a bit more sophisticated"
[09:23] <CaMeL> I used to Mandrake 10.0 official and there wasn't dcgui but in Ubuntu it's and it's easy to use;)
[09:23] <nickel> hrmm - im switching distributoins alot and i've been on ubuntu the longest
[09:23] <tobi-wan> Arjan: i installed breezy 2 days ago and it ran like a breeze :-)
[09:23] <nickel> i like everything about it, support and stuff
[09:23] <nalioth> tobi-wan: jumping from text mode to X is a lot more sophisticated
[09:23] <nickel> just not sure if its "server" material
[09:24] <nalioth> nickel: sure it is
[09:24] <tobi-wan> nalioth: :-D
[09:24] <Arjan> tobi-wan: should I need the package "firefox" or "mozilla-firefox" ?
[09:24] <nickel> will cPanel/WHM work on it?
[09:24] <nalioth> nickel: webmin
[09:24] <nickel> so im guessing cPanel/WHM wont work then
[09:24] <Seveas> nickel, syscp
[09:24] <tobi-wan> Arjan: firefox
[09:24] <Seveas> cpanel might work, no experience with it
[09:24] <nickel> ill take a look @ those
[09:25] <Arjan> the other one is outdated?
[09:25] <nickel> thanks alot ;]
[09:25] <Arjan> then I'll try that first
[09:25] <nickel> syscp and webmin are free?
[09:25] <jandusion> ompaul, how do i install the file when its done??
[09:25] <CaMeL> Tell me what's wrong with amoroK ??
[09:25] <ompaul> jandusion,  command line >>sudo dpkg -i package.deb<<
[09:25] <Ethan> ubotu: tell Ethan about msg the bot
[09:25] <Arjan> perhaps that's the only problem. Just waiting til the whole thing is downloaded
[09:26] <Arjan> If that's solved, my move to breezy is complete
[09:26] <jandusion> ompaul, okiz
[09:26] <Arjan> finally :-\
[09:26] <Arjan> tobi-wan: auch in osterreich?
[09:26] <nickel> /server -m irc.brokenirc.net
[09:26] <CaMeL> I have been installed it, volume is 100% but I don not hear it :>??
[09:26] <nickel> err
[09:26] <ompaul> jandusion, applications accessories terminal << that menu path gets you a terminal to run it in - the password is your password
[09:26] <nickel> sorry i thought it was like mir
[09:26] <nickel> c
[09:26] <nickel> ignore that
[09:26] <tobi-wan> Arjan: yup
[09:26] <nickel> no multi-servre
[09:26] <nickel> =/
[09:27] <Arjan> :)
[09:27] <tobi-wan> Arjan: vienna
[09:27] <Arjan> me too
[09:27] <CaMeL> so I think amorok is broken??
[09:27] <Arjan> the "Firefox"package is working fine now
[09:27] <welp_ubuntu> how come when i do apt-get update i get lines that have Ign at the beginning as you can see at: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nrqDbg89.html
[09:27] <CaMeL> it's quite strange, but I don't know what do:>
[09:27] <Arjan> somehow, "mozilla-firefox" was outdated
[09:28] <tobi-wan> Arjan: grand!
[09:28] <markl__> is there a gstreamer plugin that can recognize mp3 files?
[09:28] <crimsun> ...gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:28] <CaMeL> A M O R O K is shit !!!
[09:28] <CaMeL> :D
[09:28] <crimsun> uh
[09:29] <crimsun> what precisely was the point of that, CaMeL?
[09:29] <welp_ubuntu> lol
[09:29] <markl__> crimsun: not available from the standard sources?
[09:29] <crimsun> markl__: universe..
[09:30] <ProNoob> i think i have lost a binary in /bin because of disk corruption on shutown, might have been something starting with a, or something containing pic, can anyone tell me if there are such files in there ?
[09:30] <CaMeL> I have been installed it, volume is 100% but I don't hear that:|
[09:30] <CaMeL> help me !!
[09:30] <markl__> crimsun: what is universe
[09:30] <Arjan> tobi-wan: danke fuer die hilfe denn :D
[09:30] <CaMeL> installation is complete
[09:30] <tobi-wan> Arjan: np :-D
[09:30] <CaMeL> but programm it's not working:/
[09:31] <d03boy> who can help me out with this error...
[09:31] <CaMeL> Somebody help me !!!
[09:31] <markl__> wiki search didn't show any results for universe that seem relevant
[09:31] <CaMeL> Is anybody who can help me ????????
[09:31] <d03boy> eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=8871
[09:31] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: not if you keep spamming the channel, for sure
[09:31] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: give people a chance to think about your prob
[09:31] <CaMeL> OK
[09:31] <CaMeL> sorry !!!!
[09:31] <ProNoob> could anyone do a quick ls -a /bin|grep pic;ls -a /bin/a* for me ?
[09:32] <ProNoob> i really need this info
[09:32] <jcole> anyone here have a motorolla e815 phone with evdo/vcast that has enabled the hack to do bluetooth networking in linux?
[09:32] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: what exactly is your problem? you don't hear anything... only when replaying mp3s? or with audio cds, too?
[09:32] <crimsun> !tell markl__ about repos
[09:33] <ompaul> ProNoob, you are looking for /bin/arch are you?
[09:33] <CaMeL> I haven't been used cds, just mp3 from hdd
[09:33] <CaMeL> :)
[09:33] <angel2> hi guys
[09:33] <d03boy> someone needs to fix my java problems
[09:33] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: well, do you have gstreamer-mad installed?
[09:33] <tobi-wan> !tell CaMel mp3
[09:33] <Artie> Hello ubuntu install stops always at 25%. I think it's when it's trying to go online says something about apt.
[09:34] <CaMeL> now I dont not have it
[09:34] <CaMeL> :/
[09:34] <tobi-wan> !tell CaMeL mp3
[09:34] <ProNoob> no, ompaul i think i lost some file in /bin during some power outage while shutting down, and i think it started with a or/and contained pic, could you give me files with that names ?
[09:34] <CaMeL> so I should install it ???
[09:34] <tobi-wan> darn
[09:34] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: you got to install it to listen to mp3's
[09:34] <tobi-wan> *sigh* people, how many times did we have that question... today
[09:34] <CaMeL> but now I listening mp3 from xmms:>
[09:35] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: and it works?
[09:35] <CaMeL> and it's working quite well
[09:35] <tobi-wan> oh
[09:35] <tobi-wan> hm
[09:35] <tobi-wan> well
[09:35] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: did you install amarok-gstreamer?
[09:35] <ompaul> ProNoob, that is all that is there - which is why I pasted it
[09:35] <NoUse> xmms doesn't use gstreamer
[09:35] <ProNoob> ok, thanks, ompaul
[09:36] <Stormx2> Could someone tell me about metacity. Is it included in ubuntu / gnome?
[09:37] <Stormx2> bmp and xmms support mp3 natively.
[09:37] <NoUse> Stormx2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity
[09:37] <nickrud> Stormx2, yes, it's the default window manager for gnome
[09:37] <ompaul> ProNoob, if you lost a file try the "lost + found" in each partition
[09:38] <CaMeL> amorok its suport for xmms
[09:38] <ProNoob> i did, ompaul
[09:38] <CaMeL> I don't like liestening music form xmms
[09:38] <nickrud> CaMeL, amarok is a completely separate application from xmms; they play mp3's differently
[09:39] <CaMeL> so what's your advice for me, what it's the best music player for ubunutu 5.10 ????
[09:40] <NoUse> CaMeL tell us which one you like and we'll help you get it working
[09:40] <madmike> any idea how to migration old mail from evolution -> thunderbird?
[09:40] <ProNoob> CaMeL, use beep-media-player
[09:40] <ProNoob> its best
[09:40] <ev0> hi evry1
[09:40] <CaMeL> I have been using ubuntu for 2 weeks, so I am still learning:)
[09:41] <nickrud> CaMeL, the big 5 seem to be amarok, rythymbox, beep-media-player, xmms, and muine
[09:41] <ev0> oh, ive been using it for 2 hrs CaMel
[09:41] <CaMeL> hehehehehehe
[09:41] <dle> madmike - does tbird not have an Import function?
[09:41] <ev0> could someone help me install xmms?
[09:41] <CaMeL> what's the format of it ???
[09:41] <ev0> of what? xmms?
[09:41] <CaMeL> tar.gz, deb etc
[09:41] <CaMeL> :>
[09:42] <ev0> .rpm, .tgz and stuff? I have no idea. :(
[09:42] <ev0> im not sure which one i can support
[09:42] <nickrud> madmike, you could create a Maildir format store and move the evolution mail to it; then thunderbird could read it
[09:42] <CaMeL> please clikck right button on it
[09:42] <CaMeL> and read that:D
[09:42] <ev0> okay, it's tgz
[09:42] <CaMeL> :)
[09:42] <ompaul> ev0, >> sudo apt-get install xmms<< or use the gui system administration synaptic
[09:42] <jasongrieves> ohw can I make the mounted windows partition writable?
[09:42] <CaMeL> you can use synaptic
[09:42] <CaMeL> its good idea
[09:43] <NoUse> madmike I sent you a link on how to dothat
[09:43] <d03boy> I installed the java sdk 1.5.0_05 but I cant find it anywhere on my system... all that is there is the 1.5.0_03 version... where the hell is it?
[09:43] <ompaul> ev0, that package will be ready for use you don't need to build it
[09:43] <CaMeL> I have installed kadu in this way;)
[09:43] <ev0> so how do i get it working?
[09:43] <ev0> the .tgz? yeah
[09:43] <ompaul> ev0, do what I tell ya
[09:43] <NoUse> madmike google "evolution to thunderbird import mail"
[09:43] <ev0> ok
[09:43] <CaMeL> please enter to synaptic:)
[09:43] <markl__> crimsun: cool thanks
[09:44] <NoUse> jasongrieves ntfs or fat32?
[09:44] <jasongrieves> ubotu tell jasongrieves about windows
[09:44] <jasongrieves> nftfs
[09:44] <ompaul> ev0, I have no idea where you got that and so I do not want to get into the whole install a build software kit thing to start
[09:44] <NoUse> jasongrieves you can't
[09:44] <angel2> I've just installed Ubuntu on PPC and face dpkg problems ( dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed). Known issue ? Any work-around. Pb is : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75580.html .  I've read http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/09/10/1446217&tid=37&tid=101 but I don't understand
[09:45] <angel2> CaMeL: I'm fed-up compiling stuff on ppc with Gentoo
[09:45] <sprite_dwight> DShepherd: hey how are you
[09:45] <d03boy> I installed the java sdk 1.5.0_05 but I cant find it anywhere on my system... all that is there is the 1.5.0_03 version... where the hell is it?
[09:45] <ompaul> CaMeL, don't have one it is not a package for his system - (assuming he) and also this is #ubuntu
[09:46] <NoUse> madmike which part?
[09:46] <DShepherd> sprite_dwight: ok you
[09:46] <AMDXP> i am loving this automated installer
[09:46] <d03boy> NoUse, =d
[09:46] <NoUse> d03boy what?
[09:46] <CaMeL> yesterday I was at the meeting with friends, and we were watching how to compile the kernel in gentoo:D
[09:46] <madmike> which file (exactly) needs to be copied
[09:46] <madmike> NoUse which file (exactly) needs to be copied
[09:46] <nalioth> d03boy: /msg ubotu multijava
[09:47] <CaMeL> it was looking cool...Yeah !!!
[09:47] <d03boy> nalioth, i dont even want multijava, i just want revision 5
[09:47] <cyrre> Anyone knows a good torrent program?
[09:47] <d03boy> but i'll ask anyway
[09:47] <ompaul> CaMeL, that is a conversation for #ubuntu-offtopic or #gentoo but not in the support channel for ubuntu
[09:47] <jasongrieves> NoUse captive NTFS ?
[09:47] <jasongrieves> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/#download
[09:47] <CaMeL> OK
[09:47] <CaMeL> sorry
[09:47] <CaMeL> :)
[09:47] <NoUse> jasongrieves I havne't used it and I don't know how stable it is, use at your own risk
[09:48] <jasongrieves> ok thanks
[09:48] <CaMeL> I am interested in music player
[09:48] <NoUse> madmike this howto gives a step by step with the exact commands to run
[09:48] <ompaul> jasongrieves, that relies on tainting the kernel - if your machine starts breaking look there first
[09:48] <NoUse> madmike just follow what it tells you to do
[09:48] <jasongrieves> ompaul thanks
[09:49] <jasongrieves> do you all know if I can run the virtual frame buffer + an X sessoin displaying the same data?
[09:49] <madmike> NoUse I don't have a file called 'mbox'
[09:49] <jasongrieves> so the X is displaying on the screen and the vfb is displaying on :1
[09:49] <jasongrieves> well not displaying
[09:49] <welp_ubuntu> does anyone know why i can't install wine?
[09:49] <jasongrieves> but doing it
[09:49] <felon> deleted group
[09:49] <NoUse> madmike find ~/evolution -iname '*mbox*'
[09:50] <felon> what a bunch of idiots
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> felon, be nice
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> :P
[09:50] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, sudo apt-get install wine<< u use that method?
[09:50] <ubuntu> hello
[09:50] <felon> sorry
[09:50] <felon> wrong channel
[09:50] <CaMeL> I have a one question yet...my xmms do not streaming radio from internet, but it play mp3 from hdd
[09:50] <dducko> hello
[09:50] <alex_> how can I give permision of 777 for an user
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> felon, lol
[09:50] <felon> talking about windows anyways
[09:50] <CaMeL> what's the reason ??
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, yes
[09:50] <ubuntu> i'm cureently running the ubuntu 5.10 live cd
[09:50] <dducko> CaMeL, install streamtuner
[09:50] <jasongrieves> CaMeL apt-get install streamtuner
[09:50] <ubuntu> ubuntu is assome!
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, that doesn't work
[09:51] <NoUse> alex_ chmod 777 filename and then make sure it's own by your user
[09:51] <mdeboer> CaMeL: works for me. what radio?
[09:51] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, what error message does it throw up?
[09:51] <welp_ubuntu> one second
[09:51] <alex_> but if I want give that permision to a specific user how can I do it
[09:51] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, http://rafb.net/paste/results/953tv151.html
[09:51] <WildZeck> ou ein
[09:51] <ubuntu> i an gonna install it on my computer cause i al;ready got 98se and xp so if i ever want to run it i will use live cd
[09:51] <jjazz> Apache2 can execute perl scripts from /cgi-bin/ just fine, but gives me a 403 error when I try to execute one in ~/user/public_html.  I can't figure out what permissions I need to set to address this.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
[09:52] <ubuntu> thanks to everyvbiody who made this possiuble
[09:52] <mdeboer> CaMeL: i am currenly listening to www.ragga-jungle.com with xmms. no problem at all
[09:52] <CaMeL> I am talking about radio channel....
[09:52] <ompaul> !tell welp_ubuntu about repos
[09:52] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu please add the repo universe
[09:52] <CaMeL> but not for me...
[09:52] <mdeboer> CaMeL: what radio?
[09:52] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, i've done that, otherwise i wouldn't be asking
[09:52] <holycow> weird
[09:52] <ubuntu> is my computer vulnerable to hackers running 5.10 l;ive cd?
[09:52] <holycow> i can't edit applications menu with smeg in breezy
[09:53] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, try sudo apt-get update and then try again
[09:53] <gepatino> jjaz apache runs as a nouser or something like that, chmod 755 ~/user
[09:53] <mike8901> anyone know if the latest breezy badger livecd's got shipped yet?
[09:53] <ubuntu> yes
[09:53] <CaMeL> do you know polish station Megastacja.pl????
[09:53] <jjazz> gepatino, I'll try that.  Thanks.
[09:53] <mike8901> ubuntu: was that a response to me?
[09:53] <ni1s> ubuntu, linux is a pretty safe OS, be smart and you wont get in trouble
[09:53] <ubuntu> i just recived the 5.10 cd's yesterday
[09:53] <mike8901> cool
[09:53] <mike8901> my friend got em too, I just wanted to know if they all got sent out
[09:54] <ubuntu> thnaks
[09:54] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, here is the output from that: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UIrJz010.html - it doesn't work
[09:54] <CaMeL> mdeboer ??
[09:54] <fatalblu|mobile> i think my dishwasher just exploded
[09:54] <mdeboer> CaMeL: i press PLAY RADIO, and xmms is playing
[09:54] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, note the Ign next to the wine related things
[09:54] <jeanmichel> hi, i am looking for a replacement of http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/devnotpublic/ since, it's dead
[09:54] <jeanmichel> i am looking for hugin packages
[09:54] <mdeboer> fatalblu: but... where you running linux on it?
[09:55] <madmike> NoUse That doesnt turn up anything usefull
[09:55] <gepatino> jjazz dont forget to set read permisions to 'others' for the html files
[09:55] <holycow> can you guys edit your menus with menu editor?
[09:55] <holycow> i'm looking for a confirmation
[09:55] <CaMeL> so what;s wrong in my player ??
[09:55] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, remove sourceforge and just add universe
[09:55] <welp_ubuntu> so...
[09:55] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, that is not a ubuntu build
[09:55] <NoUse> madmike I've never used evolution so beyond that I can't help you
[09:55] <dducko> CaMeL, Have you installed streamtuner yet?
[09:55] <jjazz> gepatino, I can read html files just fine.  And the perms on the home dir, public_html, and the script are all 755
[09:55] <CaMeL> now I am listenig radio form REAL PLAYER
[09:55] <welp_ubuntu> add the line universe
[09:55] <mdeboer> CaMeL: xmms should work fine
[09:55] <SysFail> what DIR do the windows codecs go into for kaffeine????
[09:55] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, add the line universe
[09:55] <welp_ubuntu> ?
[09:55] <madmike> NoUse Thanks anyway ;)
[09:55] <CaMeL> hmm
[09:56] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, stop wait I want to type an instruction
[09:56] <NoUse> SysFail the w32codecs packages installs to /usr/lib/win32
[09:56] <NoUse> !tell SysFail about w32codecs
[09:56] <madmike> NoUse I thouht maybe the Tutorial means a mbox-type fiel but I dont know which-on it is
[09:56] <SysFail> thanks man
[09:56] <CaMeL> that's why I've installed amorok, but I don't hear voice:/
[09:56] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:56] <madmike> anyone has an idea how to migration old mail from evolution -> thunderbird?
[09:57] <ni1s> "SysFail the w32codecs packages installs to /usr/lib/win32", dose it? new mplayer dosent like that, it wants them to be at /usr/lib/codecs
[09:57] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, the whole thing?
[09:57] <NoUse> CaMeL are you running amarok from Gnome?
[09:57] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, ok
[09:57] <CaMeL> Yeah I know it's for KDE:)
[09:57] <NoUse> CaMeL yeah so I think you might need to change the sound output plugin, go into the setup and change it to esd or alsa
[09:58] <CaMeL> in amorok or xmms ???
[09:59] <NoUse> CaMeL amarok
[09:59] <CaMeL> OK
[10:00] <navarone> speaking of music players/jukeboxes...anyone use or have an opinion of gmuscibrowser?
[10:00] <gepatino> jjazz did it work?
[10:00] <CaMeL> where is the option in amorok ???
[10:00] <navarone> *gmusicbrowser
[10:00] <NoUse> CaMeL I don' tknow, its in there somewhere
[10:00] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4642
[10:00] <jjazz> gepatino, nope.  Everything was 755 already.  I can read html just fine from that dir.  It's just perl scripts that give me the 403.
[10:00] <gepatino> jjazz maybe they try to redirect to another page?
[10:01] <cafuego> madmike: imap
[10:01] <jjazz> gepatino, no, the script is very simple.
[10:01] <CaMeL> I'll check it :)
[10:01] <CaMeL> but I know how change it xmms but in amorok..hmm
[10:01] <jjazz> gepatino, I'll write a quick helloworld and see if that works.
[10:02] <SCMark> I've asked this here before but I'll try again:  Does anyone know how to increase the sensitivity of the mousewheel?
[10:02] <NoUse> CaMeL http://amarok.kde.org/component/option,com_staticxt/Itemid,49/xt_item,1/staticfile,configure-engine.html
[10:03] <selinium> jandusion, did you ping me earlier?
[10:03] <ompaul> selinium, he sorted
[10:03] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4643
[10:03] <selinium> ompaul, cool,
[10:03] <ompaul> selinium, he was looking for you when you were cooking so I took it
[10:03] <selinium> no probs :)
[10:04] <SysFail> dammit...kaffeine isnt asking me for where the codecs are
[10:04] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, what do i do with that?
[10:05] <grover> does anyone know why synaptic seems to always show *all* pkgs as new in repository?
[10:05] <NoUse> SysFail it uses mplayer so it knows where to look
[10:06] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, gone for 5 mins - that is your new file /etc/apt/sources.list but back upo the one you have now
[10:06] <SysFail> kaffeine used to have a wizard that checked itself all out
[10:06] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, give me 5 and I'll be back
[10:06] <SysFail> and told you about potential problems
[10:06] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, ok
[10:07] <selinium> ompaul, Get him to do a sudo wget path/to/sources -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <CaMeL> I changed plugin but its this same:/
[10:08] <ubuntu> hello
[10:08] <selinium> hello!
[10:08] <welp_ubuntu> lol
[10:08] <welp_ubuntu> hi
[10:08] <NoUse> CaMeL you changed the output plug to what?
[10:09] <ubuntu> ???
[10:09] <selinium> welp_ubuntu, indeed, I see all!
[10:09] <welp_ubuntu> :d
[10:09] <CaMeL> now output plugin is alsasink
[10:09] <welp_ubuntu> *:D
[10:09] <NoUse> CaMeL try esd
[10:09] <Rawplayer> re
[10:10] <lokm> hi all.... I need to install zlib librarioes, but everytime, when I give configure, it goes few seconds ok but then say Could not find makefile.ini... Do you think HDD can be fucked? Or what's going on when that file is there ok
[10:10] <lokm> ???
[10:10] <CaMeL> I think about changing this player:/
[10:10] <NoUse> lokm use synaptic to install zlib
[10:10] <annex> How can I find out what versions of packages are in Breezy?  I found something but not really zlib... I'll try it... thx
[10:12] <nick01> k
[10:13] <joeljkp> so what's the preferred method of transcoding video between free formats nowadays
[10:13] <mdeboer> mencoder?
[10:13] <mdeboer> ffmpeg?
[10:13] <LjL> lokm: look, the zlib1g package description says "zlib is a library implementing the deflate compression method [.....] ", why do you think this isn't zlib?
[10:14] <DaSkreech> !mp3
[10:14] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:14] <mdeboer> joeljkp: but i only know 1 free format
[10:15] <mdeboer> joeljkp: so, not much transcoding to do
[10:15] <joeljkp> mdeboer: mjpeg, theora, mpeg1...
[10:15] <CaMeL> I can't find it
[10:15] <mdeboer> joeljkp: hm.. didn't realize  mjpeg and mpeg1 are free
[10:15] <NoUse> CaMeL have you enabled the universe repo?
[10:16] <nick01> NoUse, it's no use, I still have no sound
[10:16] <CaMeL> I've refreshed repo...:)
[10:16] <CaMeL> but tell me where is rhytmbox in synaptic ????
[10:17] <NoUse> nick01 download mplayer, its a better player
[10:17] <NoUse> CaMeL spelling it correctly would be the first task, rhythmbox
[10:17] <NoUse> !info rhythmbox
[10:17] <annex> Hrmm, something went wrong.
[10:17] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 1565 kB, Installed size: 4724 kB
[10:17] <nick01> NoUse, how will it play without the sound codecs ? in mandriva I can play that file no probs with totem
[10:17] <annex> What version of bittorrent does Breezy have?
[10:17] <CaMeL> heheheh
[10:17] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, there are a couple of ways to proceed
[10:17] <NoUse> nick01 w32codecs are sound and video codecs
[10:17] <CaMeL> ok, I am writing too fast:/
[10:18] <NoUse> nick01 I use mplayer and I'm able to play everything
[10:18] <joeljkp> mdeboer: i believe they are... anyway, mng definitely is
[10:18] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, have you used the console at all?
[10:18] <nick01> than why no sound ?
[10:18] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, selinium has taken over in #ubuntu-uk
[10:18] <NoUse> nick01 get mplayer
[10:18] <nick01> kkk
[10:18] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, kool
[10:18] <mdeboer> joeljkp: but... mng for video?
[10:18] <selinium> sorry ompaul! :)
[10:18] <ompaul>  /dcc send selinium a_nice_cold_guinness
[10:18] <CaMeL> ok, I find it:)
[10:19] <delta_> video and vlc ?
[10:19] <sampan> has anyone had a breezy update mess up SCIM and then been able to get it working properly again?
[10:19] <joeljkp> mdeboer: yeah, not ideal, but it works... same as mjpeg, and i have here a few mjpeg movies
[10:19] <mdeboer> joeljkp: i see now mng does jpeg as well
[10:20] <SirKillalot> is there anyone with a Natural Keyboard Pro here?
[10:20] <SysFail> does anybody know how to tell kaffeine WHERE the win32 codecs are installed???
[10:20] <siph0n_> hey, im getting a error that says a command is not found, but when i do a 'file filename' i see that it is a ELF 32-bit LSB executable
[10:20] <NoUse> SysFail I still think it defaults to looking in /usr/lib/win32
[10:20] <siph0n_> any ideas why its saying command not found?
[10:20] <mdeboer> joeljkp: but what do you want the movies for?
[10:20] <holycow> Amaranth, are you involved with development of smeg? or were you writing a differnt yet similar app?
[10:21] <Janbanan> At gnome-look there are a lot of splahscreens. Where can I use those?
[10:21] <SysFail> it must not nouse...it isnt working
[10:21] <SysFail> you used to be able to run a kaffeine wizard thing
[10:21] <fdr> hello! I don't like rythmbox much... Could you please suggest me some other music library mgmt application to try out? It needs to run under gnome... thank you!
[10:21] <NoUse> SysFail maybe you should ask in #kubuntu
[10:21] <gepatino> siph0n-Lab is the file in the $PATH
[10:21] <joeljkp> mdeboer: got a vid in one free format (quicktime/mjpeg), want to transcode to a more compressed free format (mpeg1 or theora)
[10:21] <SysFail> k will try that
[10:21] <NoUse> fdr try banshee
[10:22] <mdeboer> joeljkp: you discard h.264 ?
[10:22] <SirKillalot> is there anyone with a Natural Keyboard Pro? Anyone managed setting hotkeys like "My Computer" (I mean the button on your keyboard)with the gnome keyboard shortcut utility?
[10:22] <CaMeL> yeah i've installed the rhythmbox but a prefer amorok, it looks better but doesn't work ;(;(
[10:22] <mdeboer> joeljkp: while not free, it is at least open
[10:22] <holycow> fdr, give banshee a try, i don't k now what you are looking for specifically tho
[10:22] <slew> someone !tell me about nvidia drivers, please. =]
[10:22] <mdeboer> joeljkp: and i don't think the quality/bitrate can be beaten
[10:22] <misfit_toy> !nvidia
[10:22] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:23] <Siph0n-Lab> gepatino: im a little new, what $PATH?
[10:23] <fdr> holycow : me neither! :-)  I enjoyed winamp's music library interface, but beep-media-player lacks it, unfortunately
[10:23] <misfit_toy> fdr, install amaroK
[10:23] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab $PATH is an environment variable that stores the dirs where to find executable files
[10:24] <joeljkp> mdeboer: quicktime/mjpeg?
[10:24] <mdeboer> joeljkp: what?
[10:24] <fdr> misfit_toy : I'd like to, but I don't feel like installing tons of kde libs...
[10:24] <joeljkp> mdeboer: you don't think what quality/bitrate can be beaten?
[10:24] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab if the file youre trying to run is not in any of that dirs, you must especify the whole path at the command line
[10:24] <misfit_toy> fdr, it's worth it
[10:24] <WinZ> friends! What is the last kernel version?
[10:25] <Siph0n-Lab> gepatino, where can i find what it is? i see a PATH := $PATH:xxxxxxxxx in my Makefile
[10:25] <Siph0n-Lab> oh k
[10:25] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab for example, if you want to run mycommand, and the file is in the current dir, do:   ./mycommand
[10:25] <misfit_toy> fdr, besides, then you can use K3B too :)
[10:25] <blackhat> When I use Fluxbox I cannot open Firefox, but when I am in GNOME it works why is this?
[10:25] <Siph0n-Lab> oh k sweet :)
[10:25] <mdeboer> joeljkp: the quality per bitrate of h.264
[10:25] <blackhat> I try to run it and nothing happens
[10:25] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab to see the content of PATH:   echo $PATH
[10:25] <fdr> misfit_toy, why not switch to kubuntu, then? :-)
[10:26] <mdeboer> joeljkp: well, i suppose that's all a bit subjective, but to me, it looks really good
[10:26] <joeljkp> mdeboer: oh, right... but there's the patent problem
[10:26] <david_> Hello everyone
[10:26] <Siph0n-Lab> awesome thanx gepatino!!! :) works
[10:26] <misfit_toy> fdr, those two apps alone are worth putting the kde libs, so you can still run gnome but have the two best "other" apps
[10:26] <misfit_toy> fdr, because KDE sucks
[10:26] <mdeboer> joeljkp: yes, so, it depends on what you want to use it for
[10:26] <Kratos> I need to reconfigure xserver to use a different resolution. when I set it up, I used a resolution not supported by my monitor. How do I change it from the Live-CD?
[10:26] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab ;)
[10:27] <david_> anyone have a problem with breezy installer, i keep getting Ubuntu base systems failed from my ship-it CD's
[10:27] <mdeboer> Kratos: why from the livecd?
[10:27] <NoUse> david_ what kind of failure?
[10:27] <mdeboer> Kratos: just switch to a console (ctrl+alt+F1), and reconfigure it
[10:27] <Kratos> mdeboer: I can't use my HDD install, as it uses a resolution not supported by my monitor.
[10:27] <david_> it just says Ubuntu base systems failed
[10:28] <mdeboer> Kratos: yes you can. Ctrl+Alt+F1
[10:28] <^rob^> hi
[10:28] <mdeboer> Kratos: log in there, and do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:28] <jeff_> hey guys
[10:28] <jeff_> does amarok look okay in gnome?
[10:28] <^rob^> is there any fix for nvidia breezy X11 version err?
[10:28] <DShepherd> jeff_: yup
[10:28] <jeff_> because i really like amarok
[10:28] <eedge> amarok looks fine in gnome.
[10:28] <NoUse> david_ http://www.aims.ac.za/pipermail/aims-tech/2005-September/000209.html
[10:29] <jeff_> dsheperd: it looks just as good in gnome as in kde?
[10:29] <eedge> I like it too, and would use it if it wasn't for my pesky .wma's.
[10:29] <Urthmover> does anyone know much about sniffing with ethereal in here?
[10:29] <eedge> I really need to convert to .ogg somehow.
[10:29] <jeff_> yeah .ogg is nice
[10:29] <^rob^> anyone use nvidia here?
[10:29] <Urthmover> so I take that as a no for ethereal
[10:29] <NoUse> ^rob^ yes
[10:29] <jeff_> im trying to find a packet sniffer for my linksys wireless card
[10:29] <lmcabral> ubuntu 5.10 supports pctel modems?
[10:29] <mdeboer> eedge: what stops you?
[10:29] <SysFail> anybody have kaffeine working with the win32 codecs????
[10:31] <NoUse> SysFail I just search ubuntuforums and found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78535
[10:31] <navarone> rob > I have geforce3
[10:31] <zxsykco> ^rob^ install nvidia-glx and then run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and restart the xserver.
[10:31] <david_> cheers NoUse, i'll download a new ISO and burn it then try again
[10:31] <NoUse> david_ make sure verify with via md5sum
[10:31] <zxsykco> I have installed many nvidia geforce etc. drivers and they all work fine.
[10:31] <NoUse> !tell david_ about verify
[10:32] <navarone> rob > dl nvidia setting too...and you may have to edit xorg.conf to enable the accelerated settings
[10:32] <david_> probably cd problem, got a 4 meg conection that is very reliable, it has never let me down yet.
[10:33] <zxsykco> gandalf?
[10:33] <zxsykco> Was that you?
[10:33] <zxsykco> T_T
[10:34] <NoUse> !tell SysFail about msg
[10:34] <annex_> How can I find out what version of bittorrent does Breezy have?  I can't seem to a find a package repository listing
[10:34] <NoUse> SysFail no prob
[10:34] <SysFail> was just trying to tell you thanks man
[10:34] <SysFail> jesus christ
[10:34] <SysFail> cant even msg and say thanks?>
[10:35] <DShepherd> eedge: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/29/wma-to-ogg-file-conversion/ <-- wma to ogg
[10:35] <NoUse> SysFail, its IRC ettiquet
[10:35] <SysFail> ive been on irc for 14 years
[10:35] <SysFail> i understand
[10:35] <SysFail> but jesus man
[10:35] <NoUse> SysFail doesn't seem that way does it
[10:35] <SysFail> lets not get all anal about a simple msg
[10:36] <ompaul> SysFail, check the CoC - language does get you kicked here
[10:36] <SysFail> i wasnt some brazilian trying to get your ASL
[10:36] <ompaul> SysFail, check it from here  Info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[10:36] <fdr> misfit_toy, could you please give me a hint about how do I get amarok to play mp3 files? It seems to be a codec problem, or something like that
[10:36] <LasseL> !mp3
[10:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:36] <SysFail> you guys need to seriously lighten up
[10:36] <zxsykco> Hey, Sysfail their are some convo nazi's lurking about, just make your peace and move on! ^_^
[10:36] <zxsykco> Ahem, there are...
[10:37] <mr-russ> is au.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[10:37] <misfit_toy> fdr, hmmm, you already have all the codecs?
[10:37] <ni1s> how do you restart the alsa deamon?
[10:37] <fdr> misfit_toy, well, rythmbox and xmms and beep-media-player work fine, so I guess so
[10:37] <mdeboer> nils: there is no alsa daemon
[10:37] <Seveas> ni1s, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa restart
[10:38] <misfit_toy> fdr, then you shouldn't need anything else, let me look at mine...
[10:38] <Seveas> (ok, not a daemon but all sound stuff)
[10:38] <ni1s> Thanks Seveas for reading what I meant
[10:38] <mdeboer> Seveas: i am not sure that that does do anything...
[10:38] <mdeboer> Seveas: isn't alsa handled by hotplug now?
[10:38] <ni1s> Nope, deprecated
[10:39] <Seveas> what the...
[10:39] <mdeboer> nils: but you can do a /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[10:39] <ion> hiya guys how is going.....
[10:39] <misfit_toy> fdr, I don't see anything in particular to configure in amaroK for mp3, and IIRC there was nothing to do but install it and fire it up.
[10:39] <misfit_toy> anybody else here have a pointer for amarok and mp3's?
[10:39] <mdeboer> nils: but why do you want to do this?
[10:39] <fdr> misfit_toy, did you install amarok or amarok-gstreamer ?
[10:39] <misfit_toy> fdr, just amarok
[10:39] <cafuego> Seveas: ooher, was it naughty (as well as retarded)?
[10:40] <ni1s> mdeboer, thank!
[10:40] <Seveas> cafuego, yup
[10:40] <ompaul> cafuego, it has not learned - it was asked to be polite
 I was signing off in a minute anyways and you guys are dicks sometimes!
[10:40] <ompaul> cafuego, and it used the n word
[10:40] <Seveas> that qualifies for a ban
[10:40] <cafuego> ompaul: I fully lost my temper with it last night.
[10:40] <mdeboer> nils: but what are you trying to do?
[10:40] <fdr> misfit_toy, hmm let me try, then, I went for amarok-gstreamer
[10:41] <ompaul> cafuego, whomsoever uses the n word on the internet looses
[10:41] <mdeboer> the n word??
[10:41] <poningru> whats going on now?
[10:41] <mdeboer> nuck?
[10:41] <lightseek> when I loaded Ubuntu today, and Gnome loaded, I noticed I was already connected to the Internet without dialing out yet!  What causes this?
[10:41] <mdeboer> nuck you!
[10:41] <misfit_toy> necrophilia?
[10:41] <poningru> nozilla?
[10:41] <Seveas> mdeboer, no, the n word with 4 letters that ends with azi
[10:41] <lightseek> does Ubuntu have a boot script to dial out using my modem as Ubuntu loads?
[10:41] <poningru> nubuntu?
[10:41] <Seveas> and now lets stop it
[10:41] <Seveas> and get back on topic
[10:42] <misfit_toy> fdr, lemme know what happens
[10:42] <lightseek> can anyone tell me please?
[10:42] <gepatino> lightseek check in the net configuration tool if ppp0 is set as auto connect or something like that
[10:42] <Urthmover> does nagios run on ubuntu?
[10:42] <ni1s> Conclusion; Flashplayer sound sync will never work..... :(
[10:42] <cafuego> Speaking of, when going through old donated books @ a high school library last weekend I found an *actual* yellow star
[10:42] <lightseek> gepatino: in the net configuration tool?  where is that?
[10:43] <fdr> misfit_toy, sure I will
[10:43] <erUSUL> lightseek, run 'pon' at start up
[10:43] <gepatino> lightseek: System/Administration/Nework
[10:43] <lightseek> erUSUL: i didnt need to run pon,
[10:43] <lightseek> erUSUL: when I loaded Ubuntu today, and Gnome loaded, I noticed I was already connected to the Internet without dialing out yet!  What causes this?
[10:43] <Stormx2> The school technicians have banned me from the network after i hacked it and net sent.
[10:43] <cafuego> lightseek: You can add a stanza for 'ppp0' in /etc/network/interfaces. Check the man page (man 5 interfaces) for samples.
[10:43] <Stormx2> So live ubuntu cd here I come!
[10:43] <david_> bye people
[10:43] <gepatino> bye
[10:43] <Stormx2> bai
[10:44] <Stormx2> I'm going to get an early night sometime
[10:44] <Kratos> What terminal commands do I use to reconfigure XServer?
[10:44] <ion> I don't know if the question is suitable for here but where shall I find one compiler ( C++) to install on linux ?
[10:44] <WS> what is command to configure network without gui?
[10:44] <Stormx2> !xorg
[10:44] <ubotu> somebody said xorg was to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:44] <blueblood> Hmm, anyone know whats up with the enlightenment homepage?
[10:44] <cafuego> WS: $EDITOR /etc/network/interfaces; ifconfig; etherconf
[10:44] <WS> thanks
[10:44] <Kratos> ty
[10:44] <WS> etherconf isnt installed I dont believe
[10:44] <lightseek> gepatino: the only thing ticked in System/Administration/Nework is "enable this connection" under ppp0.  Would that be causing it to dial out on its own during boot?
[10:45] <poningru> WS: you can also try network magic
[10:45] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[10:45] <ubotu> thanks stormx2 :)
[10:45] <poningru> !info network magic
[10:45] <Volkan> squid with http://www.example.com Why am I getting ``Proxy Access Denied?''
[10:45] <lightseek> cafuego: whats a stanza?
[10:45] <Volkan> ?
[10:45] <cafuego> !+dict stanza
[10:45] <ubotu> Dictionary 'stanza' a fixed number of lines of verse forming a unit of a poem
[10:45] <Stormx2> Oh clever!
[10:45] <Stormx2> I like it!
[10:45] <gepatino> lightseek, try editing the file /etc/network/interfaces and see if you have a line like auto ppp0
[10:45] <poningru> scratch that its not network magic
[10:46] <Stormx2> !+dict antidisestablishmentarianism
[10:46] <ubotu> could not find definition for antidisestablishmentarianism
[10:46] <Stormx2> :(
[10:46] <ion> and how shall I set up java tools on ubuntu as well
[10:46] <Stormx2> !java
[10:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:46] <Volkan> squid with http://www.example.com Why am I getting ``Proxy Access Denied?'' ?
[10:47] <mr-russ> Volkan: squid is configured to only allow connections from localhost.
[10:47] <cafuego> Volkan: Did you not add your network address/netnask to the allowed ACLs in the squid config file?
[10:47] <Gdp_usrlam> im looking for OpenAFS pdf documentation, anyone knows where to find some???
[10:47] <Volkan> give me an example acl
[10:47] <cafuego> acl localnet <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:48] <ion> ubotu: that's is for me?
[10:48] <ubotu> ion: what are you talking about?
[10:48] <cafuego> the config file is full of COMMENETD samples.
[10:48] <Volkan> acl KOCNET src <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[10:48] <Volkan> http_access allow KOCNET
[10:48] <cafuego> Check the one for 'http-acess'
[10:48] <ion> ubotu: I asked how to set up java tools on ubuntu...
[10:48] <ubotu> ion: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:48] <Seveas> ion, ubotu is a bot
[10:48] <cafuego> Volkan: Yep, did you restart squid after that?
[10:48] <ion> ubotu:what ?
[10:48] <ubotu> What what, ion?
[10:48] <bnD> ubotu java
[10:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:49] <cafuego> !bot
[10:49] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cafuego? I think not. Bot, spot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[10:49] <Volkan> nothing
[10:49] <ion> ubotu: sorry I ca'n undertand you...
[10:49] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ion
[10:49] <bnD> jsz: do i know you?
[10:49] <DShepherd> lol @ ubotu
[10:49] <fdr> misfit_toy, very strange. apt-getting amarok leads to the install of the very same packages as did amarok-gstreamer, yet this time it works out of the box
[10:49] <bnD> jsz: efnet?
[10:50] <cevizoglu> ion: don't talk to the bot, he only answers to keywords
[10:50] <orbx> does anyone know where i can get the AVI plugins for totem movie player, are they avaliable at the synaptic package manager?
[10:50] <NoUse> ion ubotu is not a human, he is a robot
[10:50] <bnD> ubotu tell orbx avi
[10:50] <bnD> ubotu avi
[10:50] <ubotu> hmm... avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:50] <ion> NoUse: you crazy :)
[10:50] <NoUse> ion I'm not the one talking to a bot :-)
[10:51] <Sarvell> anybody know how to troubleshoot no tv signal
[10:51] <orbx> ion i made the same mistake earlier :(
[10:51] <bnD> how sad
[10:51] <lokm> hi again... I've one more problem.. I installed Verlihub on my ubuntu but then I  wanted to login it gave me something like: You're not able for enter to the memory (SIGSEGV)... Can u help pls?
[10:51] <ion> NoUse : serious....
[10:51] <NoUse> ion hmm?
[10:52] <ion> NoUse: you joke are you ???:)
[10:52] <robotgeek> Sarvell: on your monitor?
[10:52] <NoUse> ion no
[10:52] <bnD> i think this is the first time ive seen someone other than ChanServ opped up in here, makes me nervous ;)
[10:52] <orbx> goodbye
[10:52] <NoUse> ubotu tell ion about yourself
[10:52] <bnD> ion: is english your primary language?
[10:52] <cafuego> lokm: That's bad programming,
[10:52] <ion> bnD: no...
[10:53] <navarone> ion > ubotu is a "bot"...a service in channelthat spews info and keeps things in check
[10:53] <poningru> ubotu: avahi
[10:53] <ubotu> poningru: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:53] <ion> bnD: is so bad ;(.
[10:53] <lokm> cafuego: What does it mean? Or what should I do? This version of verlihub I can run on every another Linux :(
[10:53] <cafuego> !ubotu
[10:53] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:53] <ion> navarone: all right....
[10:53] <cafuego> lokm: Dunno, no idea what 'verlihub' is.
[10:54] <spiff> I'm getting a strange error when trying to mount a partition; it says "device alrady mounted or /mountpoint busy", when neither are true. Is this a known bug?
[10:54] <Sarvell> anyone know how to install/configure tv tuners?
[10:54] <GTswagger> I do
[10:54] <Niomi> i have a problem with xorg taking up a large amount of resources in gnome, i've done some searches but i haven't found a good solution yet. i'm using KDE now but i miss gnome. does anyone have a good link or suggestion for me?
[10:54] <lokm> cafuego: do u know Direct connect? Its DC Server ;) but I'm sad I have to be ready for twoo weeks
[10:54] <linuxmania> spiff: have you tried umount anyway?
[10:55] <GTswagger> I have a Hauppauge PVR-250 on my Gentoo desktop MythTV system.
[10:55] <cafuego> lokm: I do know that SIGSEGV is BAD. it means the application is trying to access memory that it has no allocated, so the kernel kicked out out of ram. (Linux doesn't accept that sort of windows-like behaviour).
[10:55] <GTswagger> What is your question Sarvell?
[10:55] <spiff> linuxmania: yes. the disk is not mounted. I've even hdparm -w'd and strace'd
[10:55] <vegos> im having trouble with my wireless, when i run the iwconfig commands to change the settings, nothing gets changed
[10:55] <Sarvell> Ive got a stupid one that installs but doesnt detect signal
[10:55] <NoUse> spiff run lsof and see if the mount point is listed
[10:55] <cafuego> spiff: Are you in /mountpoint?
[10:55] <lazyant> spiff: you can use the fuser command to check if a process is holdin git, llike fuser -u /mnt
[10:55] <spiff> NoUse: it's not
[10:55] <GTswagger> Niomi - I am sorry to inform you, but Gnome is a huge resource hog compared to KDE.    It uses 99% CPU to open up a friggin terminal.
[10:55] <linuxmania> spiff: strange, I've never experienced that issue, so i would assume it is a bug, but couldnt be certain
[10:56] <Seveas> GTswagger, rofl
[10:56] <spiff> lazyant: fuser gives me nothing, like lsof
[10:56] <cevizoglu> lazyant: heh, you said git
[10:56] <lokm> cafuego: I ran this version of verlihub on ubuntu, month ago and went great, but now it gives me this :(
[10:56] <spiff> cafuego: no
[10:56] <Seveas> KDE is the hog
[10:56] <robotgeek> vegos: what wireless card?
[10:56] <poningru> vegos: has it ever worked?
[10:56] <vegos> broadcomm, im using ndiswrapper
[10:56] <lazyant> I don't know what that word means, I guess some verbotten one
[10:56] <navarone> spiff > off hand I'd say you could savea  little memory if you disable the number of terminals ubuntu uses...the ones you access via ctrl+alt+F# key
[10:56] <vegos> not on ubuntu
[10:56] <Niomi> GTswagger: but it'll use up 777MB of memory out of my gig. many computers on gnome don't even have that much memory. :/
[10:56] <GTswagger> Seveas:  my Gentoo laptop and Gentoo desktop beg to differ
[10:56] <cafuego> lokm: Did you upgrade anything recently?
[10:56] <spiff> navarone: huh?
[10:56] <Seveas> GTswagger, that's gentoos fault
[10:57] <Seveas> or maybe your CFLAGS
[10:57] <robotgeek> vegos: then what are you doing in a #ubuntu channel? (unless your are on debian or something)
[10:57] <cafuego> GTswagger: KDE uses by FAR more cpu cycles to do anything than Gnome.
[10:57] <poningru> GTswagger: I am telling you gnome is much better mem handler than kde
[10:57] <lokm> cafuego: yop I updated all updated it showed me ;)
[10:57] <Niomi> GTswagger: rather, it uses up a small amount (100ish) at start up, then slowly increase as it's been running. i need to restart gnome at least daily.
[10:57] <GTswagger> Seveas:  Gnome is just plain slower.   Now if you have all the insane eye candy on in KDE; then we can rediscuss which is quicker ;)
[10:57] <poningru> vegos: so...?
[10:57] <GTswagger> Niomi - That's actually somewhat normal
[10:57] <poningru> ok lets not start a flame war here
[10:57] <cafuego> Niomi: Do you have the xdamage transparency extension enabled?
[10:57] <Seveas> poningru, sensible
[10:57] <GTswagger> Niomi - Linux views empty RAM as a total waste
[10:57] <vegos> no im new to ubuntu
[10:57] <linuxmania> Niomi: have you looked at the xsession-errors file
[10:58] <vegos> and im having trouble setting up the wireless
[10:58] <ion> so guys let me ask again
[10:58] <navarone> sorry spiff...i meant niomi I think
[10:58] <GTswagger> Niomi - Linux uses 95% of your RAM as cache
[10:58] <poningru> vegos: ah so it worked under other distro but doesnt work under ubuntu?
[10:58] <GTswagger> Niomi - if you're looking at top -- memory free is a lie; much of it is cache
[10:58] <si> I'm trying to create a CD image using the command dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/image.iso. An image file is created but it is slightly smaller than the original downloaded iso. Obviously the md5sums then don't match. Can anyone help?
[10:58] <Hanson128> !xorg
[10:58] <ubotu> well, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:58] <robotgeek> vegos: have you read the wireless wiki?
[10:58] <ion> you guys no how to install java tools.....?
[10:58] <cafuego> !java
[10:58] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:58] <Seveas> GTswagger, free ram is a waste
[10:58] <vegos> yes
[10:58] <Seveas> what good is it if you don't use it?
[10:58] <robotgeek> ubotu tell vegos about wireless
[10:58] <spiff> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=1728118 <- this thread details my problem, but the solution in "install debian."
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> si : prolly differant inode block sizes
[10:59] <GTswagger> Seveas - I understand that, and that's what I am explaining to Niomi... Linux views unused RAM as a waste; which it is.
[10:59] <ion> and C++ compiler too
[10:59] <cafuego> Seveas: It's preeeeetty and shiny... prrrreeeeecccciousssssss......
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> causes the difference
[10:59] <spiff> which is, somewhat inadequate
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> shouldnt matter
[10:59] <robotgeek> vegos: follow the link to the broadcom installation from there
[10:59] <vegos> ok ill give it a try but i think ive read this one as well
[10:59] <robotgeek> vegos: hmm,kk
[10:59] <bnD> ubotu tell ion about gcc
[11:00] <si> lsuactiafner:Thanks for the reply. How can I make the inode block sizes match?
[11:00] <cafuego> Seveas: It tends to vary with moon phases
[11:00] <bnD> ubotu tell ion about java
[11:00] <navarone> GTswagger > is it possible in ubuntu to lower the number of virtual terminals that linux initializes in order to save ram...or is it likely to make a difference?