[09:18] <TLE> hallo everyone, back from Roskilde festival
[09:18] <andrejz> hello TLE
[12:27] <andrejz> Hello!
[12:27] <andrejz> Does anyone know where certain string from pritning dialog in evince are located
[12:27] <andrejz> I am interested in the last two tabs, since they are not translated, but all other tabs are translated
[12:27] <andrejz> i couldn't find the strings in question in either gutenprint or system-config-printer
[12:28] <andrejz> where else should i look?
[12:47] <kelemengabor> andrejz: I think those are from gutenprint, and bug #513168 is about translating these, and comment #8 explains why are they not translated
[12:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 513168 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "Printer options and other strings are not translatable (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 9)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513168
[12:47] <andrejz> thanks a lot, kelemengabor
[12:47] <andrejz> :)
[12:50] <andrejz> kelemengabor do you know where these strings might me coming from? it seems bug is rather inactive
[12:50] <kelemengabor> andrejz: what strings exactly? screenshot?
[12:51] <andrejz> it seems to be, strings are not included in one of the templates for some reason
[12:51] <kelemengabor> I'm pretty sure that those must be from gutenprint, but I can be wrong too...
[12:53] <andrejz> is it possible to determine where they come from and raise issue directly at upstream?
[12:54] <kelemengabor> well, there is no exact science behind this, but grepping /usr usually helps :)
[12:54] <kelemengabor> and then dpkg -S on the found files
[12:54] <kelemengabor> so it is not impossible, but not so quick either
[12:55] <andrejz> maybe we could try to focus and triage some of the most prominent translation bugs on translation meetings
[12:57] <kelemengabor> sure... or discuss what to do about them
[12:58] <kelemengabor> I can think of a lot of bugs that would need a lot of love from devs, but I don't really know how to activize them :(
[12:58] <kelemengabor> so, I support this idea :)
[13:00] <andrejz> since you have done a lot of work in bug triaging recently, do you think it's possible you make a list of most noticeable translations related bugs in 11.04 till the next meeting and then we can discuss about them*
[13:02] <kelemengabor> sure, I can do that :)
[13:03] <kelemengabor> or at least give it a try... so many bugs :(
[13:04] <andrejz> i can imagine, that's why i said most noticeable/serious :)
[13:05] <andrejz> if we manage to solve 5 or ten extra bugs per cycle that would be fantastic!


[11:59] <doko> ginggs, jtaylor: python-numpy autopkg tests now down to python-scipy failure.  the one on amd64 is y pathon2 test called test_gzip_py3. should that one even run for python2? the i386 one ... I don't know
[15:42] <ginggs> doko: tomorrow i'll try to check whether upgrading scipy to 1.0.0 helps
[15:44] <doko> ginggs: the amd64 issue is gone by testing against -proposed. only the i386 one left
[15:47] <ginggs> doko: ok, so it's just the precision errors then?  should we get scipy marked badtest for i386?
[15:51] <doko> from my side fine ... python-numpy in main doesn't show any failures anymore
[17:27] <NikTh> Hi, any suggestions about this build failure ? https://goo.gl/ZcTpmh
[17:34] <NikTh> ping apw
[18:07] <ginggs> doko: i *think* this patch to scipy will do it: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25998603/ - i can't test it because i can't reproduce the failure in my VM
[18:12] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rubberband/1.8.1-7ubuntu1 this is making mpv uninstallable
[18:13] <LocutusOfBorg> and then this fails https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-mpv/0.13-1ubuntu1/+build/13746173
[18:13] <LocutusOfBorg> should I no-change rebuild mpv?
[22:39] <TJ-> anyone on 17.10 can check what "keyctl show" reports for their regular user? is the top-level session keyring  owned by UID 0 ?
[23:02] <Faux> zsh: command not found: keyctl
[23:06] <TJ-> Faux: it's part of the keyutils package; should be installed if ecryptfs-utils was installed I think
[23:07] <TJ-> Faux: trying to get to the bottom of a rather serious bug on 17.10 for a user who's lost access to encrypted home, and it seems to be down to the keys being inserted into the wrong keyring (again ... been an on-and-off problem for many releases)
[23:13] <Faux> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/733a3e67/ is my desktop, if it's useful to you at all. I do not have ecrypt.
[23:13] <Faux> /away
[23:15] <TJ-> Faux: is that 17.10? in your's the session keyring is owned by the UID 1000 but it's got root's user keyring linked :)


[10:36] <jbicha> I see at least epiphany-browser and ruby-pkg-config went missing when they were promoted from disco-proposed
[14:29] <jbicha> simple-scan too
[15:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: openjdk-13 (disco-proposed/primary) [13~12-1]
[15:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-418 [source] (disco-proposed) [418.43-0ubuntu1]
[15:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-13 [source] (disco-proposed) [13~12-1]
[15:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-418 [i386] (disco-proposed/multiverse) [418.43-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-418 [amd64] (disco-proposed/multiverse) [418.43-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-418 [amd64] (disco-proposed) [418.43-0ubuntu1]
[16:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-graphics-drivers-418 [i386] (disco-proposed) [418.43-0ubuntu1]
[17:04] <Eickmeyer> Upstream Carla has just released version 2.0 final. I need it reviewed to out of the NEW queue ASAP so I can upload new patches bringing it to 2.0 final.
[17:29] <Eickmeyer> I do have a question about that process too that I'm sure cyphermox, vorlon, or anybody else can answer. Since Carla will be eventually in upstream Debian, when I upload the new patches, should I change it from 1.9.13-0ubuntu1 to 1.9.13-1ubuntu1 or some other method?
[17:29] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2, you could probably answer as well. ^
[17:38] <teward> Eickmeyer: if the package is -1 in Debian, then -1ubuntu1 is the first Ubuntu revision
[17:39] <teward> Eickmeyer: refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging
[17:39] <teward> for how version strings behave.
[17:39] <Eickmeyer> teward: It's not upstream yet, though.
[17:39] <teward> i know it suggests -Xubuntu0.1, but I've typically seen it as -Xubuntu1 :P
[17:39] <teward> Eickmeyer: then don't change it until it's in upstream
[17:39] <teward> if it's not in Debian then it's -0ubuntuX.Y
[17:40] <teward> so 0ubuntu1
[17:40] <teward> you can take a look at any of my NGINX version bumps where the software version wasn't in Debian yet as examples ;P
[17:40] <Eickmeyer> Okay, then it'll have to be 0ubuntu1.1?
[17:41] <teward> I think i need more background on what you're after... :P
[17:41] <teward> (I came in late)
[17:41] <teward> AIUI, the 'version' change is based on the current package in Ubuntu
[17:42] <teward> so if the current one is -0ubuntu1 and you're adding new pathces to that version, then it'd either be -0ubuntu1 or -0ubuntu2 - typically I've seen the *second* of those two versions
[17:42] <teward> (but I've seen both before...)
[17:43] <Eickmeyer> Okay, Carla is in the NEW queue, which means it still needs an admin to look at it to migrate to proposed. Upstream has just released it's 2.0 final (what's in the NEW is 1.9.13, aka 2.0-RC3 patched to 2.0-RC4), so I have patches to bring it to 2.0.
[17:43] <Eickmeyer> And, since the eventualallity is that it will be in upstream Debian (but can't now due to the buster freeze), it has the Xubuntu1.
[17:44] <Eickmeyer> teward: ^
[17:56] <Eickmeyer> Going with 1.9.13-0ubuntu2
[20:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-13 [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [13~12-1] (no packageset)
[21:49] <jbicha> Eickmeyer: new packages can still be uploaded to Debian, they just won't be in Buster
[21:50] <jbicha> and you can open a sponsoring bug for carla 2.0, you don't need to wait for it to be approved in the new queue first
[21:51] <Eickmeyer> jbicha: I don't need a sponsor for Carla anymore, I was approved as uploader and the ACLs were already applied.
[21:52] <Eickmeyer> It hasn't been moved out of new yet.
[21:52] <jbicha> you still need a sponsor until it's actually in Ubuntu
[21:53] <Eickmeyer> It's sitting in the new queue now, waiting for review.
[21:53] <Eickmeyer> cyphermox already sponsored it.
[21:59] <Eickmeyer> jbicha: Unless I'm confused?
[22:00] <jbicha> you started by saying you needed to wait until it made out of the new queue to update it to 2.0 and I replied that you didn't need to wait :)
[22:02] <Eickmeyer> jbicha: Well, it's already 2.0-RC3 (1.9.13) patched to 2.0-RC4 (1.9.14) and I have the patches ready to go once it's in Ubuntu, and since I have PPU for that package, I should just be able to update it directly, right?
[22:03] <jbicha> yes, once it's approved, you won't need a sponsor
[22:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-13 [s390x] (disco-proposed) [13~12-1]


[01:09] <sarnold> tomreyn: I can't access https://launchpad.net/bugs/2046565 I get the "lost something?" page. are you sure you've got the right visibility flags and subscriptions on it?
[01:11] <tomreyn> sarnold: i can access it when logged in. i filed a "private security" bug. apparently only brian-murray §may be notified" about it.
[01:11] <tomreyn> "may be notified"
[01:11] <tomreyn> "other bug subscribers" appears to be empty. whom should i subscribe?
[01:12] <tomreyn> on the top it says "Only the security group can see this information."
[01:12] <sarnold> I wonder if i"m not in the security team? heh
[01:13] <tomreyn> i guess visibility may be limited because it's not an ubuntu project?
[01:13] <sarnold> yeah, that's probably it
[01:13] <tomreyn> https://i.imgur.com/tKNMqGJ.png
[01:13] <sarnold> it's weird because we can see some openstack stuff but maybe not all of it?
[01:14] <sarnold> if this is apport, please also subscribe ubuntu-security
[01:14] <tomreyn> it's not an apport generated bug report
[01:15] <tomreyn> i just subscribed the ubuntu security team
[01:15] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security
[01:17] <sarnold> aha, thanks
[01:17] <tomreyn> the 'errors' software is managed by https://launchpad.net/~daisy-pluckers - three busy people whom i assumed to have received a copy of my report (but maybe they did not because it is flagged security?)
[01:17] <tomreyn> i also e-mailed them and the apparent (based on the topic here) security team handler on duty about it
[01:18] <sarnold> probably just brian, hehe
[01:20] <sarnold> tomreyn: thanks for the ping :)
[01:20] <tomreyn> so.. i suggest discussing internally how to ensure that private security bugs reported against (somewhat) important infrastructural software are received by someone who is able to act upon them
[01:20] <tomreyn> i'm sorry this boring bug ended up in your hands :)
[01:21] <tomreyn> and i appreciate your response.
[01:23] <sarnold> yeah, reporting to *one* person is a bit weaksauce
[01:25] <tomreyn> since brian is not a member of the security team i'm not even sure he received it
[01:26] <sarnold> I think he probably did -- at least I subscribe other folks to bugs all the time :)
[01:40] <tomreyn> very well. (but, yes, more recipients might be better.)
[01:42] <sarnold> definitely


[02:11] <os2mac> someone around?
[02:53] <artnay> os2mac: sure.
[03:45] <os2mac> I have been trying for several days to get someone to send me a copy of the offical background for ubuntu... I am using kubuntu and am getting tired of blue...
[03:48] <artnay> os2mac: hah, I get the point. wait a sec
[03:49] <artnay> are you sure you want the default bg? it's a bit messy, well, at least I think so
[03:49] <artnay> http://art.ubuntu.com/
[03:49] <os2mac> I have looked on there and don't see the default
[03:50] <artnay> if you can't find any reasonable bg from there, I could send the original one to you
[03:51] <os2mac> that is what I am looking for... I have all the ones I like from there but I like the original...
[03:51] <os2mac> could you please.
[03:51] <os2mac> os2mac at gmail dot com
[03:52] <artnay> umh
[03:52] <artnay> you want 4:3 to 16:9?
[03:54] <artnay> 4:3 or 16:9, I stand corrected (by myself) ;)
[03:56] <os2mac> 16;9
[03:56] <os2mac> I have a widescreen laptop
[04:00] <artnay> http://users.evtek.fi/~jirig/ - there you have both of them, warty*
[04:00] <artnay> and some other ubuntu bgs
[04:06] <os2mac> thank you.... nice cats
[04:06] <artnay> umh, yeah. should upload some new photos.
[04:10] <artnay> AUC needs new stuff
[04:11] <artnay> should upload the default breezy bg to AUC
[04:11] <artnay> why on earth it's not there :o
[04:16] <os2mac> nor is the default kubuntu stuff....
[04:23] <artnay> yeah, artwork team should get organized asap. there's not much on the lists either :/


[00:52] <VIA> hi all
[00:52] <VIA> all of a sudden im getting no audio output at all
[00:53] <VIA> funny enough (to me) the 'front center' sound mentioned on this site; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting .. plays
[00:54] <VIA> lmao now sound seems to be back on
[00:54] <VIA> im loving it o_o
[22:33] <craigbass76> Eickmeyer, Hey. So Plasma it is, these days?
[22:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> craigbass76: Yep, it's been that way for almost 18 months. Our first LTS with Plasma is coming out in about a month.
[22:34] <craigbass76> That's a honed down version of KDE?
[22:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> No. Plasma is the DE made by KDE.
[22:36] <craigbass76> What was the rationale for moving off XFCE? I don't care one way or another, just curious.
[22:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> craigbass76: You can read about it in the 20.04 release announcement: https://ubuntustudio.org/2020/04/ubuntu-studio-20-04-lts-released/
[22:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> It's even more true now than it was 2 years ago.
[22:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> And don't mind the distorted screenshots, it was written with an old version of the website.
[22:41] <craigbass76> Any idea how it weighs in resource-wise? I know the last few versions of XFCE haven't felt too lightweight, compared to how they used to be (up against GNOME and KDE)
[22:42] <craigbass76> LXDE has been my latest "computer that requires a walker" DE
[22:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> The article covers that as well. From what corrinado testified the other day, is that the performance benefits of Ubuntu Studio were not tied to Xfce.
[22:54] <Eickmeyer[m]> In fact, per my usage, not even GNOME is very resource-intensive anymore.
[23:45] <OvenWerks> craigbass76: There are lots of settings that can turn off the highresource users. I am finding that software checking and installing causes me xruns on any low latency.


[04:35] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> morning baizon and dax
[04:43] <dax> morning
[04:44] <baizon> hi hi lotuspsychje
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3050845/microsoft-windows/microsoft-embraces-linux-way-too-late.html
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> dax: could it be interesting to have a trigger for !insights https://insights.ubuntu.com/ Your source for Ubuntu news, articles, tutorials, e-books and everything else in-between.?
[05:05] <dax> is that the one that's an aggregator for canonical blogs
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> i think so, official news comes there
[05:06] <dax> i do not find such a thing useful but you are welcome to convince other ops otherwise
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> dax: okay no sweat
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: welcome :p
[09:40] <rilleh> Cheers
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: the idea is we do alot of support always, but never actually have the chance to talk, so here we are
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-plasma-5-7-desktop-environment-to-land-on-july-5-have-five-point-releases-502618.shtml
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> rilleh: add to favs, and welcome :p
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> hey there pauljw
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> hi BluesKaj and cfhowlett
[12:17] <pauljw> morning lotuspsychje
[12:17] <cfhowlett> hey hey hey lotuspsychje
[12:17] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje, pauljw
[12:17] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett,
[12:18] <pauljw> hi BluesKaj
[12:18] <pauljw> everyone.. :)
[12:20] <BluesKaj> winter has returned here , snowing again , just below freezing , it was 15C last week
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> here its raining for the whole week
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> after being spring/sunny
[12:20] <BluesKaj> more snow in april than december
[12:21] <BluesKaj> weird
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> weather is crazy
[12:24] <pauljw> it is weird isn't it, we're looking at rain/snow mix late this week too.  and lots of wind lately.
[12:28] <BluesKaj> a lot of people have removed their winter tires already...too early
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> new netbook screenshot: http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-64bit-Development-branch-601374206
[14:04] <pauljw> lotuspsychje, nice looking system.  16.04 still doing well?
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: very stable
[14:05] <pauljw> :)


[04:12] <master> Hey, if anyone's installed dragon naturally speaking on linux, how long does it typically take? I can't tell if playonlinux is hanging or not.
[06:43] <Wizard> Hi
[07:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:19] <tori> Hi! I have a question - I'm on Kubuntu 14.04, and I have both plasma 4.5 and 5 (switchable from the login interface). When Plasma 5 is released, will the 4.5 session bu updated to 5 or the current 5 preview will be updated to a final version? Or maybe both?
[08:20] <lordievader> tori: Kubuntu will ship with KDE 4 for a while.
[08:22] <Riddell> lordievader: past, that's Plasma 4 :)
[08:25] <lordievader> Riddell: Now you got me confused.. I thought it was KDE 4 and Plasma 5/KF5.
[08:26] <Riddell> lordievader: it was called KDE 4 when we released 4.0 but then it was rebranded so now KDE is the community and the desktop is Plasma 4 and the Applications are whatever they are
[08:28] <lordievader> Riddell: Ah, I didn't get that memo. Thanks for clarifing that for me :)
[08:31] <Riddell> you're not the only one
[08:32] <lordievader> Riddell: I know. I did now Plasma5 was not called KDE5, but I didn't know of the rename of KDE4 to Plasma4. But it makes sense.
[08:34] <kbroulik> lordievader: there was a rebranding between 4.3 and 4.4. KDE is the Community. So saying KDE4 is like saying Microsoft 8. It's not Microsoft 8, it's Windows 8. Hence Plasma 4 :) (overly simplified)
[08:34] <lordievader> kbroulik: Jup I get it now, thanks :)
[08:34] <Riddell> lordievader: ah but it's more complex than that, KDE 4.3 I think was the last release called KDE, then the releases are called KDE Software Compilation and they contained the plarform, plasma and applications
[08:35] <Riddell> and now they're due to be released separately so Software Compilation (SC) is going away and there's separate KDE Frameworks, Plasma and Applications releases
[08:36] <Riddell> I'm generally for this rebranding but the term SC is pretty inelegant and it lacks any common way to refer to KDE Software that uses Qt 4 or Qt 5 which would be handy to have
[08:38] <lordievader> Isn't it true that KF4 uses Qt4 and KF5 uses Qt5?
[09:09] <Riddell> lordievader: KDELibs4 uses Qt 4, KF5 uses Qt 5
[09:10] <lordievader> Hehe, another term...
[09:10] <Riddell> so I find myself talking about KDELibs4 land and KF5 land for any KDE Software that uses Qt 4 or Qt 5
[09:10] <Riddell> which isn't very elegant
[09:10] <lordievader> Yeah, I bet.
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:07] <Wizard> jussi: kdenlive is fine.
[13:08] <Wizard> Uhh
[13:08] <Wizard> jubo2: ^
[13:19] <jubo2> Wizard: tnx. ( my question was what/which video editing I should 'sudo apt install' )
[13:19] <Wizard> That one.
[14:49] <Wizard> Let's say I have to format a pendrive.
[14:50] <Wizard> How?
[14:50] <Wizard> Without terminal magic?
[14:50] <kbroulik> Wizard: KDE Partition manager
[14:51] <kbroulik> (dunno how usb-creator-kde does that, though, it prompts "authentication is required to format a storage device")
[14:51] <kbroulik> so maybe there's a simple too for that
[14:52]  * Wizard takes jaw from the table.
[14:54] <Wizard> It failed.
[14:54] <Wizard> This is just beyond my imagination,.
[14:57] <shadeslayer> Wizard: partition manager failed?
[14:57] <Wizard> Yup
[14:57] <shadeslayer> pastebin error?
[15:43] <elmer_> My pleasure strangers.
[15:44] <elmer_> Who are my peers?
[15:46] <jubo2> jubo-jubo ici
[15:46] <jubo2> I'm just a humble Kubuntu14 user
[15:46] <elmer_> Is anybody out there?
[15:46] <lordievader> elmer_: See /names ;)
[15:46] <jubo2> elmer_: currently there are 254 users in this channel
[15:46] <jubo2> elmer_: do you have a support question? if not then there is #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:48] <jubo2> s'il vous plait
[15:49] <elmer_> I'd fix my wired connection (eth), but i guess the proper pacages are missing.
[15:50] <lordievader> elmer_: What seems to be the problem?
[15:50] <elmer_> missig eth driver(s)
[15:51] <lordievader> elmer_: That's hard to believe. What is the output of "lspci -k|grep -A2 Network"?
[15:51] <elmer_> but I'm too lazy to read manuals :(
[15:56] <elmer_> i've received>>2 unrelated info lines &! Kernel driver in use: wl
[15:56] <elmer_> *"Kernel driver in use: wl"
[16:01] <lordievader> elmer_: Please pastebin the full output.
[16:01] <lordievader> !paste | elmer_
[16:07] <elmer_> No problem. Thanks in advance. It will be alright.
[16:09] <Wizard> shadeslayer: kde partition manager told me that pendrive created from Kubuntu ISO has no valid partition scheme (which was an obvious lie). So I ordered it to create new scheme, create new ntfs partition, gave it a label and licked apply. It failed on step one.
[16:10] <michael> Hey
[16:10] <Wizard> Than I clicked apply after any change and it worked, however this time I've chosen fat32.
[16:10] <Wizard> michael: Hi.
[16:10] <Guest3385> Whats goin on?
[16:11] <Wizard> Guest3385: Seems "michael" is protected by NickServe ;]
[16:12] <Wizard> Hmm, another problem I'm having with Kubuntu 12.04 is the boot and KDE launch time.
[16:12] <Wizard> It takes about 30s to KDM, than about 35s to fire netbook-plasma.
[16:12] <Wizard> Uh, 14.04
[16:12] <Wizard> Sorry.
[17:08] <BluesKaj> dougiel, gparted live-media , or installed on the hdd
[17:09] <dougiel> gparted in installed/live on arch (antegros) mint 14.04 everything I try.
[17:12] <BluesKaj> dougiel, gparted is problty looking for a file system like ext4 for example ..if you deleted the fs then the partition should be unallocated and if possible, try unmounting the partition
[17:16] <dougiel> BluesKaj, my /home is /dev/sdb2
[17:16] <dougiel> and all the data is there.
[17:20] <dougiel> BluesKaj, sec will boot my live 14.04 and report back here...
[17:21] <BluesKaj> dougiel, perhaps a reinstall of 14.04 to / , then w
[17:22] <BluesKaj> using ubiquity manual partitioning set your /home mountpoint without formatting. but format /
[17:26] <Guest46702> BluesKaj: same...
[17:26] <dougiel> BluesKaj: same...
[17:32] <BluesKaj> dougiel, perhaps a reinstall of 14.04 to / , then using ubiquity manual partitioning set your /home mountpoint without formatting. but format /
[18:15] <jubo2> I want to record texy Linux action
[18:16] <jubo2> that is to say I need a screen capture solution that I can use to record the 'sudo apt update' and 'sudo apt upgrade' processes and then use those as material in kdenlive
[18:17] <bprompt> !recordmydesktop | jubo2
[18:20] <bprompt> jubo2:    http://cdn8.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/640x316xscreenshot_002.png.pagespeed.ic.9wyYaSO6zw.png
[18:21] <jubo2> From startpaging around I got 'sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop'
[18:22] <jubo2> that'd prlly be my poison of choice..
[18:22] <jubo2> bprompt: thanks for your response
[18:22] <jubo2> bprompt: don't we have dpkg bot service here ?
[18:23] <bprompt> I'd think ubottu  would have that, yes.... but could be under something else
[18:23] <jubo2> lestry..
[18:23] <jubo2> !tell jubo2 about xyz
[18:24] <jubo2> [18:25] <jubo2> seems at 1st glance same bot framework / implementation as dpkg is in .. uhh .. #debian I think..
[18:29] <jubo2> the gtk-RecordMyDesktop doesn't seem to be working rationally perceived
[18:30] <jubo2> it doesn't give any key to stop recording ... the program window just dissappears and there is nowhere no icon to click to stop the "recording"
[18:30] <jubo2> my bad.. needed to right-click on the blank-symbols
[18:43] <K`zan> Hi folks, how does one get rid of this damn wallet thing?
[18:48] <jubo2> K`zan: I don't think you do.. The wallet is used for storing your secrets ( passwords associated with usernames and such )
[18:48] <jubo2> or WiFi WPA2 shared secrets and such
[18:51] <K`zan> jubo2: That damn wallet is a horrid PITA, I guess my only option is to use another email program or change UIs, whoever stuck us with that crap, deserves to have to deal with it for every users that finds it a gross PITA :-).
[18:52] <jubo2> Pita.. kebab..?
[18:52] <K`zan> Sigh, just the continuing progression to make kde totally useless, STILL not half the functionality of KDE3, sigh.  Been using KDE forever but it does look like time to find somethiing less obnoxious.
[18:52] <K`zan> THanks anyway :-).
[18:58] <jubo2> the recordMyDesktop stopped saving files
[18:58] <jubo2> or the gtk- portion of it prlly
[18:59] <jubo2> so I reboot the system and hope it comes back
[19:01] <jubo2> what's the correct command to chain 'sudo apt update' and 'sudo apt upgrade' together so they are executed with single command line ?
[19:02] <soee> & ?
[19:03] <jubo2> so 'sudo apt update & sudo apt upgrade' ?
[19:03] <jubo2> I've used the ampersand only to tell a program to go to background right from start
[19:04] <jubo2> and '&&' for non-exclusive-or in some archaic lang
[19:08] <gomiboy> jubo2: I just joined, so i don't know what you are doing, but the command is 'apt-get' and not 'apt' and you should use && which in bash means "execute the second command only if the first succeeded"
[19:09] <jubo2> gomiboy: 'kdänks
[19:10] <jubo2> I'm coming from the Debian GNU/Linux part of the world and just recently learnt not to use aptitude on Kubuntu coz it may do freaky shit
[19:15] <jubo2> is there a way to run only a simulation of 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[19:16] <jubo2> The recordMyDesktop seems flaky in the reliability of the "save file"-dialog
[19:17] <jubo2> I wouldn't want to miss the chance to capture the upgrade for the video we need to have done by Tuesday
[19:49] <Gatis> For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
[19:49] <jubo2> Amen Gatis
[19:50] <Gatis> AAAAMEN!
[19:51] <jubo2> also Gatis I think you potentially gonna get the bannhammer if you push your own theistic groups views.
[19:53] <jubo2> I mean this is a #Kubuntu support channel, not spout your religious propaganda channel..
[19:54] <Gatis> jubo2, who cares :D
[19:54] <jubo2> Gatis: personally.. nice to know there are other belivers in the Lord out there
[19:55] <jubo2> Gatis: come hang in ##learnanylanguage .. everything is on-topic there
[19:55] <Gatis> what is that
[20:11] <Gatis> Okay
[20:11] <Gatis> Let's go to sleep
[20:11] <Gatis> Jesus can come whn we least expet
[20:12]  * vexer harts kubuntu
[20:38] <lap1> hey
[21:05] <SamwiseGamgee> I got this link from the ##hardware channel: they say it will solve my encryption problem, but will these command lines work with the new, 14.04 versions of ubuntu?  http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-play-dvd-under-ubuntu/
[21:05] <Unit193> !libdvdcss
[21:09] <genaerft> hey
[21:09] <genaerft> I changed the board and CPU and RAM and now Grub refuses to boot. because of wrong uuids
[21:09] <genaerft> do I need to correct the UUIDs? bklid shows no difference (via boot-repair)
[21:09] <genaerft> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8116143/
[21:11] <genaerft> Any help is apprechiated
[21:13] <genaerft> i tried a lot, and I don't know why my system problem is so tough
[21:16] <genaerft> Now, after boot-repair, I enter into the busy-box... which isn't accessible via usb keyboard.
[21:16] <genaerft> so I want to use the live cd again to solve my problem, but I can't edit some boot config because its in the MBR
[21:18] <BluesKaj> SamwiseGamgee, you can find libdvdcss2 at the vldeolan/vlc site
[21:19] <SamwiseGamgee> is that the same as the abovve link I got from ubottu?
[21:20] <SamwiseGamgee> Oh yeah, it must be different, may be vlc has more up to date instructions
[21:21] <BluesKaj> SamwiseGamgee, libdvdcss is no longer available at the ubuntu site afaik
[21:22] <SamwiseGamgee> Should I install LibDVDcss before I install VLC Media Player, or should I install VLC Media Player first?  Keep in mind, I am not using Kubuntu, but xubuntu, but I am assuming it makes no difference, as they are both ubuntu 14.04 operating systems
[21:22] <BluesKaj> genaerft,  reinstall to / if you have a /home partition otherwise new hw usually requires a clean install
[21:23] <genaerft> BluesKaj: actually I wanted to do a fresh install.. on the new ssd, which isn't recognized...
[21:23] <BluesKaj> SamwiseGamgee, it makes no diff afaik, but vlc then css is probly safest
[21:23] <SamwiseGamgee> thanks, BluesKaj
[21:24] <genaerft> BluesKaj: but is it really needed? 1 time booting worked, on the 2nd try without any changes
[21:25] <BluesKaj> genaerft, it's hard to predict with new HW
[21:26] <genaerft> I know, I need a new graphic driver, since the window manager looked 90s-ish
[21:27] <BluesKaj> anyway it's been a long day ,,, and it's almost dinnertime
[21:27] <BluesKaj> laters
[21:31] <genaerft> thx
[21:31] <genaerft> changing from AHCI to IDE helped -> it's booting again
[21:32] <SamwiseGamgee> Bon appetit BluesKaj
[21:38] <SamwiseGamgee> Is it safe to install a program like DVDLibcss from a third party website?  I can't remember the last time I did that.  It must have been months ago.  The ubuntu operators always tell me to install any new software package from the Ubuntu Software Centre
[21:41] <SamwiseGamgee> Or to install new software using the terminal command line.  I think the software package updates better that way, and may be it's safer?  Anyway, I forgot how to install new packages from a third party website.  I thought that is for Windows users and not Ubuntu users, right?
[21:43] <orestis> hello, I have ubuntu unity 14.04 on my laptop and I want to change to kde, if I install kubuntu-desktop I will have the exact same apps and configuration as original Kubuntu. Some people suggest not to install a lot of different DEs because it will slow down your system is it true?
[21:43] <Unit193> SamwiseGamgee: http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html it's more up to you, but official channels generally don't support third party repos like this.  There's also a script in another package, but IMO it's not as good as it's not updated.
[21:44] <SamwiseGamgee> IMO?
[21:46] <SamwiseGamgee> I just want to know what is the safest and easiest way to install the most up-to-date version of VLC Media Player and DVDcss for Ubuntu 14.04


[00:30] <Seven_Six_Two> are any lug sites participating in resetthenet.org
[05:37] <azend|vps_> [20:30:12] <Seven_Six_Two> are any lug sites participating in resetthenet.org
[05:37] <azend|vps_> I would be happy to
[05:37] <azend|vps_> and if anyone would like to join me, we can both drink away our sorrows


[17:23] <cog> Wow what a major pain in the butt bug :C
[17:25] <cog> I switched back to the terminal hotkeyed to F7 but didn't see anything but noninteractive garbage messed up from my previous configuration of windows in Unity :C
[18:10] <highvoltage> stgraber: have you booked flights for UDS yet?
[18:11] <highvoltage> (these are the options from YUL if you haven't: http://paste.ubuntu.com/880723/)
[18:14] <stgraber> highvoltage: I'm waiting for my passport
[18:14] <highvoltage> stgraber: ah for some reason I thought you collected that on Friday
[18:15] <highvoltage> stgraber: should I go ahead and book mine or do you think you'll have your passport soon?
[18:15] <stgraber> highvoltage: what's the cheapest? ideally I'd take the direct as I try to avoid ORD at all costs and changing through YYZ would add a quite a few extra hours + custom/immigration at the middle of the trip
[18:15] <stgraber> highvoltage: I should have my passport this week
[18:17] <alkisg> stgraber, highvoltage, do you think I could ask for sponsoring for that UDS too?
[18:17] <highvoltage> stgraber: it doesn't mention costs
[18:17] <highvoltage> alkisg: yeah you should have already!
[18:17] <alkisg> It's the first time I've heard about it, I thought it would be organized later on :)
[18:18] <highvoltage> alkisg: yeah, unfortunately jono bacon assumes that *everyone* reads his blog: http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/01/27/ubuntu-developer-summit-sponsorship-now-open-3/
[18:19] <stgraber> alkisg: this UDS is a bit weird in that it's on the US west coast instead of Europe. I don't know where the UDS in October is going to be this year but if it's in the US again, it might be best for you to save "points" for that one and bundle with the LTSP hackfest again
[18:19] <alkisg> Wait,  Oakland, California ? I thought it would be in Europe! (not that I'll complain at all if I'm granted sponsorship :))
[18:19] <stgraber> highvoltage: I'm guessing you didn't even apply for it, you just got invited by Kate right?
[18:19] <alkisg> stgraber: it's the last year where I have a leave of absense for my phd, I don't know if I'll be able to leave my school the next years (except for summer vacations)
[18:20] <alkisg> So it's possible that it's the last UDS I'll be able to attend
[18:20] <highvoltage> stgraber: yeah. I wasn't even sure if I'd go, but I ended up going for it
[18:20] <stgraber> alkisg: from Jono's blog "The deadline for submissions is Wed 22nd February 2012 so be sure to get yours in!" :(
[18:21] <alkisg> Ouch
[18:21] <highvoltage> stgraber: so I'm taking the first flight fwiw, I guess you could just say you want the same
[18:21] <stgraber> highvoltage: ok, direct from Montreal to SFO would definitely be my preference
[18:21] <stgraber> highvoltage: from there I know how to get to Oakland, did it a few times ;)
[18:22] <highvoltage> great
[18:22] <alkisg> Sniff... /me was looking forward for the next UDS :(
[18:22] <stgraber> I was a bit surprised at how little noise there actually was about this UDS...
[18:23] <highvoltage> alkisg: I just assumed you did apply :(
[18:23] <stgraber> I don't even remember seeing something on the usual mailing-lists...
[18:23] <alkisg> Nah, I had searched about it a couple of months ago and didn't find anything, so I just thought I'd read the new on the mailing lists
[18:24] <alkisg> *news
[18:24] <highvoltage> ooh, sorry jono
[18:24] <highvoltage> he did actually post it to the right place, too: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2012-January/000928.html
[18:24] <alkisg> It would be a good chance to visit vagrantc too
[18:25] <stgraber> oh, indeed he did, must have been filtered by the "/ignore jono" my brain was applying to my e-mails at the time
[18:28] <alkisg> Anyway, I'll put my hopes of seeing you guys again to the chance that some future LTSP BTS will be organized in Europe + in the summer :)
[20:19] <cog> How do I run Mathematica through wine on Edubuntu -current?
[20:19] <cog><EMAIL_ADDRESS>(me) wants the answer :)
[21:08] <cog> I don't know how to run an installation program in terminal, please assist & may you get more positive energy than you give me :)


[00:48] <callmepk> goood morning
[05:09] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[05:10] <duflu> Morning seb128 #firstpost
[05:11] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you?
[05:11] <seb128> ;-)
[05:11] <duflu> seb128, going OK. You?
[05:24] <jamesh> duflu: thanks for the tips of Mutter testing yesterday.  That was enough to work out how to check that Xwayland was activating on both sockets.
[05:24] <duflu> jamesh, I did hardly anything. No problem
[05:26] <jamesh> It looks like there are some people who see breaking the abstract socket support as a good thing, but hopefully they'll accept the patch
[05:29] <duflu> Yeah I know what it's like
[05:33] <duflu> jamesh, there's a red cross on the merge request because you just need to add an issue URL or MR URL to the bottom of each commit
[05:33] <duflu> -just
[05:34] <jamesh> duflu: there didn't seem to be any for other revert commits.  Would you suggest the MR's URL again, or the bug?
[05:35] <duflu> jamesh, I'm never sure so usually use both. If you prefix the issue with "Fixes: " or "Closes: " then it will get automatically closed
[05:36] <duflu> and you were probably looking at manual commits GNOME developers do without going through CI
[05:36] <jamesh> duflu: I've got the second commit saying it fixes the issue.  I didn't squash the two together to make it clear what was new.
[05:36] <seb128> duflu, I'm alright thanks
[05:37] <duflu> jamesh, ah yes the robots already noticed the bug being fixed
[05:38] <jamesh> duflu: I should have mentioned why I was reverting the commit in the message though, so it would make sense to reference the bug.  I'll do that
[06:19] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:27] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[06:30] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, ça va bien, et toi?
[06:30] <seb128> ça va aussi mais va falloir marcher sous la pluie pour aller à la garderie :-)
[06:35] <oSoMoN> c’est presque aussi efficace que le café pour se réveiller
[06:51] <didrocks> good morning
[06:59] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN and didrocks
[07:12] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:26] <seb128> lut didrocks , comment ça va ?
[07:27] <jibel> morning all
[07:27] <didrocks> seb128: ça va, petite nuit comme d’hab, en plus le bruit du vent (100km/h cette nuit) n’aide pas, mais la maison a tenu (moins les affaires de chantier sur le terrain par contre)
[07:27] <didrocks> hey jibel
[07:27] <seb128> lut jibel
[07:28] <jibel> salut didrocks seb128
[07:28] <seb128> didrocks, c'est bon alors, si le loup vient souffler ça tiendra :-)
[07:28] <didrocks> exactement :p
[07:48] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk seb128 duflu jamesh oSoMoN didrocks jibel and other desktoppers
[07:48] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson
[07:49] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson
[07:52] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson , how are you?
[07:52] <marcustomlinson> seb128: well thanks, yourself?
[07:53] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks & jibel, good afternoon duflu, good morning marcustomlinson
[07:58] <callmepk> hey marcustomlinson and morning/afternoon seb128 duflu jamesh oSoMoN jibel
[07:58] <jamesh> hi marcustomlinson
[07:58] <duflu> Afternoon callmepk
[07:58] <oSoMoN> good afternoon callmepk
[07:58] <seb128> hey callmepk
[07:58] <oSoMoN> good afternoon jamesh
[07:59] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I'm alright, having a kid home with an upset stomach though, might be another fun day...
[08:02] <Laney> yo
[08:04] <seb128> hey Laney , how are you?
[08:05] <seb128> what's the word on the candidate images?
[08:07] <Laney> hi seb128, I'm ok
[08:07] <Laney> what word are you after?
[08:07] <Laney> I don't know anything more than https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-20-10-release-status-tracking/18647
[08:08] <seb128> I saw you made some comment about swap I think, I was wondering if that meant there was some bug around swap handling found in the ISO testing
[08:08] <Laney> yes, it's referenced in that document and fixed (has a strikethrough there) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-image/+bug/1900718
[08:08] <seb128> also that topic didn't get much updates, hard to say if nothing got tested, if things are being validated and looking good so far
[08:09] <seb128> ah, I guess I didn't understand how to read the topic
[08:09] <seb128> it didn't show in recently edited on discourse and there was no new post
[08:09] <seb128> I didn't realize that it was like a wiki being edited
[08:09] <seb128> thanks
[08:09] <Laney> it's a wiki post, gets edited
[08:09] <oSoMoN> yo Laney
[08:09] <Laney> moin oSoMoN
[08:10] <seb128> is there an history log
[08:10] <seb128> seems like there is
[08:10] <seb128> Laney, sorry for the stupid question then
[08:10] <Laney> top right, there's a pencil thing
[08:10] <Laney> np!
[08:10] <seb128> TIL
[08:10] <seb128> :-)
[08:11] <oSoMoN> wikis are making a comeback
[08:12] <didrocks> hey Laney, oSoMoN
[08:20] <Laney> yo didrocks!
[08:25] <seb128> there is a command that tell if a package is seeded on one of the ISO right?
[08:27] <duflu> Morning Laney
[08:32] <Laney> seb128: yeah, seeded-in-ubuntu
[08:32] <Laney> hey duflu
[08:33] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[08:35] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:35] <marcustomlinson> seb128: :/ hope the wee one gets better soon
[08:36] <seb128> marcustomlinson, thx!
[08:39] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson
[09:38] <seb128> xnox, the lightdm-gtk-greeter failure you report, that was in a vm right?
[09:39] <seb128> (it does fail in boxes here, something in the libgl stack according to valgrind, but works on real hardware)
[09:41] <xnox> seb128:  yes, VM, libvirt with virtio (cirrus?) graphics.
[09:42] <seb128> k
[14:32] <Laney> I just added some super basic content to the release notes
[14:33] <Laney> more welcomed
[14:54] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:54] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth
[14:55] <hellsworth> hey there oSoMoN
[14:58] <Trevinho> jibel: I've tried again that nvidia machine, however I'm not getting the nvidia driver loaded on reboot, I thinkk it's because I?m egtting some errors about the kernel Lockdown... But it's weird as I've set the password and I put in during reboot, any advice?
[14:59] <jibel> xnox, ^ any advice?
[14:59] <jibel> Trevinho, and you selected to install 3rd party drivers in ubiquity?
[14:59] <Trevinho> yes, and gave my pw...
[15:00] <xnox> Trevinho:  no mok; nor pw should be needed for nvidia
[15:00] <Trevinho> i've the nvidia stuff installed, but not running as the module doesn't load
[15:00] <xnox> Trevinho:  matching lrm should be installed for nvidia; which should be signed by the right key.....
[15:00] <Trevinho> eh, it's not the case  i  think
[15:01] <xnox> Trevinho:  can you please open the bug report against ubiquity with $ ubuntu-bug ubiquity => such that we can check the logs of what got installed
[15:01] <Trevinho> xnox: can I check the driver key?
[15:01] <xnox> Trevinho:  btw, was it offline install?
[15:01] <xnox> Trevinho:  yes $ modinfo <name of th driver> should tell you which key has been used to sign a module
[15:02] <Trevinho> xnox: nope, not this time, but last week I was getting it working with both online and offline
[15:02] <xnox> cool.
[15:02] <xnox> $ ubuntu-bug ubiquity => please such that i can munch on the logs =)
[15:02] <Trevinho> xnox: can I pass that info so you can check the signature?
[15:02] <Trevinho> ah ok
[15:03] <Trevinho> xnox: want me to retry with an offline install first?
[15:03] <xnox> assuming you can do that =) and have enough graphics to complete that.
[15:03] <Trevinho> I disable the updates thjugh
[15:03] <xnox> Trevinho:  nah, no need.
[15:06] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[15:07] <hellsworth> hey there marcustomlinson
[15:09] <jibel> Good morning hellsworth
[15:11] <hellsworth> hi jibel :)
[15:15] <Trevinho> xnox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1900865
[15:17] <Trevinho> not sure you also want the full dmesg for the reboot session
[15:24] <Laney> Trevinho: you should try the latest iso ;-)
[15:25] <Laney> BUT I think you did find a bug
[15:26] <seb128> shrug, that lightdm-gtk-greeter thing doesn't make much sense, the greeter log on the livecd has
[15:26] <seb128> Failed to load module: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
[15:26] <seb128> libgvfscommon.so: failed to map segment from shared object
[15:27] <seb128> also installing focal on a vm and updating systemd makes it unhappy
[15:27] <seb128> but on different error
[15:27] <seb128> gdbus thread error
[15:30] <jibel> Thanks Trevinho, efficient contribution :)
[15:31] <Trevinho> Laney: well the only difference was libfreetype iirc no?
[15:31] <Trevinho> libfontconfig o something like that, so...
[15:31] <jibel> shim-signed too
[15:31] <Trevinho> ah ok :P that could change things
[15:32] <Trevinho> well, I repeated with the iso test I did yesterday so let me know if you want one more
[15:32] <Trevinho> with latest
[15:33] <jibel> sure, once there is a new wiouth without nvidia-455
[15:33] <jibel> new image*
[15:36] <Trevinho> feels important https://i.imgur.com/TZjnB5B.png :P
[15:37] <Trevinho> ping me when needed
[15:44] <seb128> it works fine on real hardware, which is even stranger...
[15:44] <seb128> why would those 'failed to map segment from shared object' be different on virtual?
[16:10] <Laney> Trevinho: try again with 20201021.1 please?
[16:10] <jibel> Trevinho, can you sync 20201021.1 and try again?
[16:10] <Trevinho> ok
[16:11] <Laney> I WON!
[16:26] <Trevinho> net or not net?
[16:26]  * Trevinho will go without, as typing the coworking password is annoying enough :D
[16:26] <jibel> tell me which one you do and I'll do the over
[16:26] <jibel> other*
[16:27] <jibel> k, I'll do net
[16:33] <Trevinho> those XDG_RUNTIME_DIR warnings are nothing important, right?
[16:35] <jibel> it's important but never fixed, it's because ubiquity spends its time raising and dropping privileges
[16:35] <jibel> so it tries to use xdg_runtime_dir from the other user
[16:37] <Trevinho> not sure I should ever work much on installer myself as I'm totally affected by the "Progressbar watching disease"
[16:38] <jibel> what it that?
[16:39] <Trevinho> ahaha, maybe it's just me, but when there's a progress bar I can't stop stearing at it :D
[16:39] <jibel> lol
[16:39] <Trevinho> spinners are somewhat better, as I don't hope for an end...
[16:39] <jibel> hopefully I am not affected
[16:40] <jibel> imagine if I would. I roughly submitted 7800 results to the tracker, 10min/install that's a lot of minutes watching progress bards
[16:40] <jibel> bars*
[16:41] <jibel> roughly 53 days, 24h a day
[16:41] <jibel> lol
[16:45] <Trevinho> damn I assume http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/groovy-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync is not updated right? I was looking at the timestaps, intead of the SUMS... [/me redoing]
[17:07] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, have you seen that I submitted a couple of merge requests against gtk-common-themes?
[17:12] <oSoMoN> !26 is the important one, !27 is mostly cosmetics
[17:43] <Laney> Trevinho: use the dated directories at this point, not those symlinks
[17:44] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, it's installing now
[17:45] <Laney> goOOOOOOOOOOOd
[17:51] <Laney> but jibel says it worked so I'm confident enough :>
[17:53] <Trevinho> aaaand... no drivers installed :o, and I *did* select to install them.. unless I'm stupid, but I've been asked for the password so...
[17:53] <Trevinho> where was it the install log?
[17:53] <Trevinho> ah I remember
[17:54] <Trevinho> Laney: so without network it still fails
[17:55] <Trevinho> as it tries to install 455 and they're not available....
[17:55] <Laney> you got the wrong image
[17:55] <Trevinho> No...
[17:55] <Laney> 455 is removed from the new one completely
[17:55] <Laney> no trace of it
[17:56] <Trevinho> Laney: this is with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20201021.1/groovy-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[17:56] <Trevinho> Laney: something changed, as before I was getting the wrong driver installed
[17:56] <Trevinho> now NO driver installed
[17:57]  * Trevinho connects...
[17:57] <Laney> pastebin the syslog?
[17:58] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, I'm on it
[17:58] <Laney> and what does ubuntu-drivers list say?
[18:01] <Trevinho> Laney: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XyMwBxtMG7/ see around line 2294
[18:01] <Trevinho> Laney: well, now it may say things, but before network was just blank
[18:01] <Trevinho> ok, on list no 455
[18:03] <Trevinho> and yes it was 20201021.1
[18:05] <Laney> what is in that file
[18:05] <Laney> /run/ubuntu-drivers.autoinstall or something like that
[18:05] <Trevinho> Laney: connected?
[18:05] <Trevinho> ah, ok sorry
[18:05] <Trevinho> I read run...
[18:06] <Trevinho> it's just a content :D
[18:06] <Trevinho> Laney: I've not that
[18:07] <Laney> scripts/simple-plugins:    ubuntu-drivers install $FREEONLY $NOOEM --package-list /run/ubuntu-drivers.autoinstall || \
[18:07] <Laney> this thing
[18:08] <Laney> that's where ubuntu-drivers records what it needs to install
[18:09] <Trevinho> not sure if some other needed log may have been attached, but I've opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1900888
[18:09] <Laney> I dunno what's going on, I'm looking in this iso and there is no mention of 455 anywhere
[18:22] <kenvandine> Os
[18:22] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: yeah, I'll look tomorrow, off today
[18:24] <Trevinho> Laney: bah, I don't have that file neither during install...
[18:24] <Laney> lol
[18:24] <Laney> Trevinho: I think we see what the problem is
[18:24] <Laney> we didn't respin the images hard enough
[18:26] <Laney> merci for the testing!
[18:26] <Trevinho> de nada
[18:28] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, oh, enjoy the day off then!
[18:29] <kenvandine> Enjoy is a stretch, digging up my old flower bed to make room for new stuff.
[18:30] <Laney> that sounds GREAT!