[10:23] <stefg> what bugs me most is that especially the ubuntu doc looks terrible..
[10:23] <emman1> actually im using it in windows
[10:23] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1,  read the !gru stuff, i think it helps identify the drives and partitions????? where do I find this
[10:23] <rww> !windows | emman1
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> C0p3rn1c: theres one in kde called kmenu edit, i dunno what it is in gnome
[10:23] <emman1> i use gaim instead of ym
[10:23] <ikonia> emman1: so why are you asking us about it ?
[10:23] <psypher246> theatrustop: well it looked like everything said ok running it again with -a -s swithc  (all and silent, only report errors)
[10:23] <gnomefreak> riz0n: go to launchpad.net and search for the package and you should see bzr branches on the source page find out what branches are there and you should find a PPA
[10:23] <stefg> tiyowan, thx! excellent find
[10:24] <emman1> because gaim is open source, maybe
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> !grub | rfxcasey
[10:24] <ikonia> emman1 this isn't an open source channel, it's a channel for ubuntu support only
[10:24] <gnomefreak> gaim is gone
[10:24] <tiyowan> stefg: I'm using an LCD btw. Following the instructions in the post made everything beautiful. Also, you might want to install the liberation and ms font packages. I use liberation as my system default. *Much* better.
[10:24] <emman1> ok sorry
[10:24] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip1: ic, ok I will google it some more
[10:24] <emman1> can you tell me a channel for that
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> C0p3rn1c: try www.ask.com too
[10:25] <gnomefreak> emman1: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <ikonia> emman1: try windows
[10:25] <emman1> ty
[10:25] <ikonia> emman1: ##windows sorry
[10:25] <riz0n> wasn't gaim replaced with pidgin
[10:25] <gnomefreak> or windows
[10:25] <gnomefreak> riz0n: yes
[10:25] <riz0n> gnomefreak thats what i thought
[10:25] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip1, sorry I am pretty newb I don't understand what !grub is
[10:25] <theatrustop> riz0n, yes, though pidgin is gaim renamed to not have 'AIM' in its name
[10:26] <gnomefreak> riz0n: IIRC alot of the code was replaced as well
[10:26] <riz0n> gnomefreak: i am going to install what is in the universe repository. i am just looking for something to administer my web server since webmin is no longer supported
[10:26] <Photoguy> I'm trying to install Wbar from the terminal. Here is what it says: http://pastebin.com/m522e0e0
[10:26] <gnomefreak> rfxcasey: go to one of the links from the output of !grub
[10:26] <emman1> so can pidgin now view a cam?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> !grub > rfxcasey
[10:27] <rfxcasey> !grub
[10:27] <stefg> tiyowan, i have them too... it's not that all pages look bad, just some... my guess is that the font-substitution for Helvetica simply takes a bad choice. The trouble in linux is that any given font is optimized for ONE rendering setting. So if you enable full hinting you can throw out all the Nimbus and Free- family and are left with DejaVu/Ditstrem Vera and Liberation
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> rfxcasey: ubottu is telling you, hes told you 3 times now
[10:27] <saywot> erm, how might one install XINE in Intrepid Ibex (not gxine, not Kaffeine - I know they use the same engine but I'm after the Xine GUI)
[10:27] <Photoguy> I'm trying to install Wbar from the terminal. Here is what it says: http://pastebin.com/m522e0e0
[10:27] <Photoguy> It won't work
[10:28] <rfxcasey> ok thanks guys I will read this Grub info
[10:28] <tiyowan> stefg: Interesting point. I personally haven't noticed anything odd after trying out the tweaks I mentioned. Give it a shot? :-)
[10:28] <ikonia> Photoguy that file is not in the directory
[10:28] <allsystemsarego> Photoguy, you need to cd into the directory where that file is located
[10:28] <Photoguy> I put it on the desktop
[10:28] <Photoguy> cd?
[10:28] <ikonia> Photoguy: the fact that you can't read the error message and still blindly type "make" suggests you should %100 not be doing this
[10:29] <allsystemsarego> Photoguy, cd ~/Desktop
[10:29] <Photoguy> Ok
[10:29] <Photoguy> I saw "no directory"
[10:29] <Photoguy> That's not hard.
[10:29] <gnomefreak> ok ill be back need to finish this build :(
[10:29] <ikonia> Photoguy you should not be blidnly typing make on a box
[10:30] <ikonia> Photoguy is wbar the band width monitor you want ?
[10:30] <Photoguy> I'm in the terminal, I have specific instructions http://www.linux.com/feature/128982
[10:30] <Photoguy> No, I just want Wbar.
[10:30] <riz0n> Wow, this eBox package is installing a whole bunch of stuff on here.
[10:30] <stefg> tiyowan, yeah sure... i'm surprised that the BCI is suddenly turned off in intrpid. since dapper ubuntu came with compiled-in and enabled BCI in libfreetype... so i blamed the new xorg version
[10:30] <Photoguy> Is there a better way to install?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> !info wbar
[10:31] <allsystemsarego> Photoguy, sudo apt-get install bwbar
[10:31] <ikonia> Photoguy the radio tool ?
[10:31] <riz0n> well i just lost access to my server :/
[10:31] <ikonia> allsystemsarego thats a different package
[10:31] <psypher246> theatrustop: does any of these output mean a problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87708/
[10:31] <tiyowan> Photoguy: Wbar is a quick launch bar...any particularly reason why you can't use something else instead?
[10:31] <terryx> can't enable desktop effects, help me please........
[10:31] <Photoguy> what's wrong with wbar?
[10:31] <chatty> !ccsm > terryx
[10:32] <ikonia> Photoguy nothing, but you are not comforatable building it and could do a lot of daamage to your system
[10:32] <Photoguy> Ok, is there a somplace else to install it?
[10:32] <ikonia> Photoguy: there is an ubuntu package on getdeb
[10:32] <Photoguy> Like a .deb file?
[10:32] <tiyowan> Photoguy: I'm sure nothing's wrong it, but I think you need to be a bit more knowledgeable when you're compiling stuff. It could end up damaging your system.
[10:32] <Photoguy> Oh.
[10:32] <riz0n> The last line I seen on SSH before my connection was dropped is: Setting up ebox-network (0.11.99-0ubuntu1) ...
[10:32] <Photoguy> Ok, thanks for the warnings!
[10:32] <shiv_j> I am able to do sudo apt-get install mplayer but this does not show in synaptic why so?
[10:32] <terryx> hey chatty: help me man..
[10:33] <tiyowan> terryx: What was the model of your video card again?
[10:33] <chatty> terryx please ask a specific question then
[10:33] <terryx> nvidia
[10:33] <allsystemsarego> Photoguy, you should stick with installing from repositories unless you're working in a sandbox
[10:33] <Stavros> i have a headless machine that's behaving oddly, how can i check the memory/disk?
[10:33] <terryx> before its was working very good n cool
[10:33] <ikonia> allsystemsarego it's not in the repos
[10:33] <terryx> but suddenly its gone
[10:33] <ikonia> allsystemsarego: check before suggesting random things
[10:33] <tiyowan> terryx: nvidia and? model? As in Radeon, Geforce etc.
[10:34] <terryx> geforce fx5500
[10:34] <Photoguy> ikonia, wbar doesn't show up on getdeb..
[10:34] <terryx> my driver already activated
[10:34] <chatty> terryx before what; what happened to change it
[10:34] <b1n42y> psypher246: mismatches look like they are all config files so maybe they got chnaged as a result of install, but ye geta  2nd opinion
[10:34] <terryx> i mean the problem occur today
[10:34] <ikonia> Photoguy must have been removed, I was reading an archive post
[10:34] <tiyowan> Could someone look into terryx's problem, please? I need to go on a short break.
[10:34] <Photoguy> Ah, bother.
[10:34] <terryx> and before today it was woreking fine
[10:34] <Photoguy> NO other way?
[10:34] <Photoguy> *no
[10:34] <apollo13> hi, is firefox on 8.04 crashing after the http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-690-1 update for you?
[10:34] <Stavros> is there any way to unmount the system disk?
[10:35] <chatty> terryx try disabling then re-enabling
[10:35] <ikonia> Stavros not while it's in use
[10:35] <Stavros> ikonia: hmm :/
[10:35] <riz0n> Anyone have any idea why eBox install would drop my network connection
[10:35] <Photoguy> ikonia, not other way to get the .deb or something?
[10:35] <bushd> I got my integrated webcam working but I'm not sure if it was due to the Xawtv or chmod (777) I did on /dev/video0.  My question is can I mod /dev/video0 so I won't have to run programs accessing /dev/video0 with sudo (requiring passwords on app launches).
[10:36] <allsystemsarego> apollo13, you mean 3.0.5 ?
[10:36] <psypher246> i was tailing /var/log/messages kern debug and syslog, not a single error when FF just crashed AGAIN!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
[10:36] <b1n42y> riz0n: does it need a keep alive command maybe ?
[10:36] <apollo13> allsystemsarego: jup, 3.0.5 came in via that
[10:36] <terryx> ITS ALREADY DISABLE
[10:36] <ikonia> Photoguy from where, the only on eI can find is here http://code.google.com/p/wbar/downloads/list it's for debian, but it may work depending its' dependencies
[10:36] <allsystemsarego> apollo13, works fine so far
[10:36] <terryx> its already disable
[10:36] <terryx> and i can't enable it
[10:36] <psypher246> this is nuts,  why am i wishing to be aback on windows, bad bad thoughts!!!
[10:36] <shiv_j> I cannot see some packages in synaptic even though they are installed via terminal. All filter is set in synaptic still...
[10:37] <ikonia> psypher246: run firefox from a terminal to get debugging
[10:37] <wiehan> ikonia: it is finished at 100&
[10:37] <chatty> terryx alt f2 compiz --replace
[10:37] <terryx> and my nvidia setting is not working as well
[10:37] <dimebar> psypher246: were you running it from the terminal? did it spit anything out there?
[10:37] <wiehan> ikonia: it is finished at 100% - What now
[10:37] <psypher246> ikonia: already done that
[10:37] <ikonia> psypher246: it's very unlikey the kernel/syslog would care if a desktop application crashed
[10:37] <wiehan> sudo mdadm --detail --scan
[10:37] <psypher246> no like i have said all that ever gets reporeted is :aborted
[10:37] <ikonia> wiehan: sudo mdadm --detail --scan
[10:37] <ikonia> wiehan: you got it
[10:37] <apollo13> allsystemsarego: just found out some /usr/lib/firefox3.0.4 was still running, maybe that's the cause, let's try :)
[10:37] <dimebar> psypher246: what plugins/addons do you have?
[10:37] <wiehan> ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=00.90 UUID=2f5a9c35:0dc5194f:d12aac97:1c8d863e
[10:38] <ikonia> psypher246 are all plugins disabled
[10:38] <ikonia> wiehan thats more like it,
[10:38] <riz0n> I guess eBox isn't the way t go.
[10:38] <psypher246> sorry for sdaying this stuff again, but it;s just easier:
[10:38] <psypher246> I have tried safe mode, new profile, re-install ff, all plugins disabled, , disabled compiz, uninstall java, uninstall flash and a heavy system stress test. Nothing works. FF and other browsers will still randomly crash. I have started a forum post on the problem but no resolution yet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6391180#post6391180.  I am not the only person it seems with this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990649&high
[10:38] <wiehan> BUT:::: the one we created earlier is making trouble:
[10:38] <wiehan> mdadm: bad uuid: UUID=
[10:38] <wiehan> mdadm: ARRAY line /dev/md0 has no identity information.
[10:38] <ikonia> wiehan: now put that in a file called /etc/mdadm.conf, all on line
[10:38] <ikonia> wiehan: forget that
[10:38] <allsystemsarego> apollo13, kill ff and make sure it isn't running somewhere hidden
[10:38] <ikonia> wiehan: that will clean up on your next reboot
[10:38] <wiehan> ikonia: I trust you
[10:38] <Photoguy> ikonia, thank you!
[10:38] <dimebar> psypher246: did you have flash open at the time? (flash has given me some trouble in the past)
[10:39] <bushd> psypher: It wouldn't be compiz -- your other applications would experience the crashing.
[10:39] <psypher246> flash is not installed
[10:39] <psypher246> the porblem is NOT flash
[10:39] <allsystemsarego> apollo13, System-Admin-SystemMonitor - End process
[10:39] <riz0n> I guess I should just stick with Webmin... such a shame.
[10:39] <bushd> Psypher are you running x86 or 64
[10:39] <apollo13> allsystemsarego: yeah that was the cause, and now I prefer the console ;)
[10:39] <psypher246> 64bit
[10:39] <apollo13> no*
[10:40] <psypher246> and i just know i am going to spend a week getting my pc reinstalled just to havbe this issue again when i update
[10:40] <bushd> I didn't like 64bit myself, running 32bit on my amd64
[10:40] <psypher246> 64bit has been AAAWESOME till 2 weeks ago. so far intreopid 64 has been the BEST ubuntu yet on my machine
[10:40] <psypher246> hardfy SUUUCKED and until intrepid 64 my pc was not nearly as fast as it shold be
[10:40] <bushd> Most likely it is FF or flash and I only bring up flash because I know they recently started pushing it out
[10:40] <hateball> Nothing wrong with 64-bit... got both Sun Java plugin and Flash for it now :)
[10:41] <psypher246> hateball: excatly
[10:41] <blip99> hi all,  i got my 56K dial-up USB modem configured and working.  I connected via Knetworkmanager.... the problem is I don't hear the pshhhh pshhhh ting tong sound while it's connecting.   I have the volume set on max in the modem config (in knetworkman) as well as system volume.    I really need the sound to debug my modem during travels.
[10:41] <terryx> NO USE
[10:41] <b1n42y> psypher246: have you tried konqueror
[10:41] <psypher246> i have been SOO happy with intrepid 64 till last week
[10:41] <psypher246> no i haven't good idea
[10:41] <b1n42y> psypher246: opera
[10:41] <riz0n> Guess i get to drive 200 miles to reboot this server that eBox install crashed.
[10:41] <blip99> it's an external USB modem I mean
[10:41] <riz0n> Fun.
[10:41] <psypher246> opera and epiphany both crash the same as FF
[10:41] <blip99> 200 miles
[10:41] <blip99> nice
[10:42] <riz0n> yeah
[10:42] <dimebar> psypher246: hmmm its no other programs crash just browsers?
[10:42] <b1n42y> psypher246: or any other pretty good replacement ... then you can slowly as a hobby without going crazy seek the answer you seek
[10:42] <ikonia> psypher246 have you considered the fact you may have a hardware issue, such as bad memory ?
[10:42] <Photoguy> It says my "administrative rights" password is wrong! I know it's right, it's the same as login, right?
[10:42] <dimebar> ikonia: surely that'd affect stuff other than browsers?
[10:42] <bushd> Psypher if multiple browsers are crashing then find out the packages they use between them.
[10:42] <blip99> riz0n: can't you got someone else to reboot it ?   I'm assuming it's a server at work... maybe only you have physicall access ?
[10:42] <ikonia> Photoguy what says that, what command ar eyou using
[10:42] <psypher246> i have already stated that i have heavey system sress test, ram memtest 5 passes no errors, ran stress for 2 hours no errors
[10:42] <ikonia> dimebar maybe/maybe not
[10:43] <Photoguy> When I try to install the package..
[10:43] <bushd> That will help you narrow down what could be causing the error.
[10:43] <Photoguy> It says that.
[10:43] <ikonia> dimebar: maybe a bad network card module
[10:43] <Photoguy> After clikcing on the .deb
[10:43] <wiehan> ikonia: Ok, I did that... are we done? Will GRUB be ok and instact?
[10:43] <ikonia> Photoguy: do "sudo dpkg -i $package_name.deb" from the command line in the same directory as the deb file
[10:43] <ikonia> wiehan: %100 dne, reboot and it should auto start
[10:44] <ikonia> wiehan: it's not a boot drive so grub doesn't care
[10:44] <ikonia> wiehan: grub is %100 untouched
[10:44] <Gh0stN0te> hi.all
[10:44] <psypher246> ikonia: hardware is not the problem
[10:44] <b1n42y> psypher246: also you should take into account all logs and what was happening at time of crash as well as application specific information, do you use your computer for anything else than internet browsing ?
[10:44] <riz0n> well i may be able to get someone to reboot the machine later in the day, BUT if the machine doesn't come back up, I'm the only person that knows anything about it to bring it back up
[10:44] <amortvigil> hey do all installed debs get saved on youe pc?
[10:44] <ikonia> amortvigil: no
[10:44] <psypher246> yes it's my work pc. i have checked messages, debug, kern, and syslog, no errors
[10:44] <Stavros> amortvigil: not all
[10:44] <riz0n> I just don't get what was going on with the eBox install that would have caused this thing to become unresponsive
[10:44] <bushd> Psypher Also, like someone mentioned start firefox from a terminal with firefox -g
[10:44] <psypher246> the rest of the PC is fine, just ALL browsers
[10:45] <b1n42y> \var\cache\apt or sumtin like that
[10:45] <wiehan> ikonia: I love you. Can I have your babies? Really.
[10:45] <ikonia> wiehan: glad your working
[10:45] <wiehan> ikonia: do you have paypal
[10:45] <Photoguy> ikonia \adams\home like that
[10:45] <Stavros> does anyone here have an eee box that can help me with something?
[10:45] <psypher246> i have laready tried from the terminal, all it says is aborted. what do you do after you do firefox -g?
[10:45] <blip99> eeeeeeee eeeeeeee
[10:45] <ikonia> psypher246: you may want to look at options such as your network card, what model is that and what kernel module isin use
[10:45] <ikonia> wiehan: no need for that
[10:45] <ikonia> psypher246: where ever YOU put it
[10:45] <b1n42y> psypher246: dont only look for errors, i said whats happening in logs at time of crash maybe you can cross ref
[10:46] <wiehan> ikonia: Man, you took hours of your time helping me out...
[10:46] <ikonia> psypher246 sorry mot you
[10:46] <ikonia> wiehan: no sweat
[10:46] <psypher246> b1n42y: which lopgs, i don't know where else to look
[10:46] <wiehan> ikonia: If you ever need some help with webdesign or java programming, give me a ring..
[10:46] <ikonia> wiehan: it's fine, happy to help
[10:46] <Photoguy> ikonia \adams\home like that, type into the termianl?
[10:46] <ikonia> Photoguy: where ever YOU put it
[10:47] <psypher246> bushd: wehat do you do after you did firefox -g?
[10:47] <C0p3rn1c> yay suse style gnome on ubuntu : http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/03/11/suse-style-gnome-menu-on-ubuntu-edgy/
[10:47] <wiehan> Everybody: ikonia is a legend! He is what defines the open source community... thanks to everyone else for the help as well
[10:48] <bushd> The help says use default /usr/bin/gdb/whateveryouwant
[10:48] <ikonia> C0p3rn1c thats very old,
[10:48] <Phil__> hello, I have lost connection to the internet, still have limited LAN connection - any ideas?
[10:48] <ikonia> psypher246: check your gateway,
[10:48] <b1n42y> psypher246: dono bro look through all of em, i havent got into logs yet, but id be looking into that, sometimes i imagine it is possible for something to initiate - work - but break something else, also what kind of internet adsl, cable?
[10:48] <bushd> So run firefox -g /usr/bin/gdb/crashy
[10:48] <ikonia> psypher246: ughh sorry again, not you
[10:48] <psypher246> ikonia: ???
[10:48] <psypher246> lol\
[10:48] <ikonia> Phil__: check your gateway
[10:48] <C0p3rn1c> ikonia: I know, but it's still pretty nice
[10:48] <psypher246> b1n42y: doesn't matter i work at an isp at home i have dsl
[10:49] <ikonia> C0p3rn1c: try to keep this channel to relevant support please.
[10:49] <Phil__> ikonia - yeah, I did, it matches the one that the rest of the computers are using
[10:49] <bushd> I was curious if anyone know why nm-applet has horrible problems with WPA2 GTK connections
[10:49] <C0p3rn1c> ikonia: ok
[10:49] <psypher246> well the ojnly logs i know is message, debug, syslog, kern etc
[10:49] <ikonia> Phil__: check that gateway is not blocking you
[10:49] <b1n42y> psypher246: where does it happen ?
[10:49] <psypher246> everywgere
[10:49] <ikonia> Phil__: check your browsers are not using a proxy or marked in "offline" mode.
[10:49] <kise> I am using Multidisk, is it possible to add disks to the exsiting array?
[10:49] <sidhrt> can anyone help with my usb hard drive problem, please?
[10:49] <Photoguy> Sorry ikonia, like this?  adams\home\sudo dpkg -i $wbar_1.3.3_i386.deb  that is where the .deb is.
[10:49] <ikonia> Phil__: try pinging an addresss like www.google.com from your PC then try it from another see if they behave the same
[10:50] <b1n42y> psypher246: oh thats easy
[10:50] <psypher246> mmk?
[10:50] <Phil__> ikonia:how do I check the gateway isn't blocking me?
[10:50] <ikonia> Photoguy: cd /home/adams ; sudo dpkg -i wbar_1.3.3_i386.deb
[10:50] <Photoguy> ok
[10:50] <b1n42y> psypher246: the "matrix" has decided you shouldnt have access to itself
[10:50] <Photoguy> Thanks!
[10:50] <ikonia> Phil__ speak to whoever runs your gateway
[10:50] <Phil__> ikonia - browsers not an issue - its a fileserver w/ no gui
[10:50] <psypher246> b1n42y: bloody neo
[10:51] <bushd> psypher Run the firefox debug mode that'll help figure out whats wrong
[10:51] <Vinceman> why is it that new technologies always seem to be in a pioneering phase so long?
[10:51] <b1n42y> psypher246: lol, so tried konq yet
[10:51] <wiehan> ikonia: mmmh... I rebooted, and tried to mount md1 and it says /dev/md1 does not exist...
[10:51] <psypher246> yeah just did, weird can't even go to google, comes up with error on the page
[10:51] <ikonia> wiehan ooh not good
[10:51] <Phil__> ikonia: I guess I do, should I poke around with the router settings?
[10:51] <b1n42y> hmmm
[10:51] <ikonia> wiehan: what does "cat /proc/mdstat" show
[10:51] <panasonysung> If I dowload and install the kernel updates, will they take over from my current custom kernel?
[10:51] <ikonia> Phil__: well check if you've set any blacklisting
[10:51] <wiehan> ikonia: can it be bexause it does not have a filesystem yet...
[10:51] <bushd> Run it without debug -- can you get to google?
[10:52] <ikonia> Phil__: also check you have valid working name servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:52] <ikonia> wiehan: nah
[10:52] <Stavros> does anyone here have an eee box that can help me with something?
[10:52] <ikonia> wiehan: should still create the meta device
[10:52] <b1n42y> psypher246: sounds like you may have more than one problem, can you ping sites from terminal?
[10:52] <wiehan> ikonia: not much: Personalities.... then unused devices : <none>
[10:52] <Phil__> ikonia: yeah, the nameservers match ones used by other computers - is thata fair test?
[10:52] <Shark_7-11> hi all
[10:52] <b1n42y> psypher246: via ip
[10:52] <ikonia> Phil__: try using one with nslookup ?
[10:52] <psypher246> yeah yeah internet access is not the problem, the problem is rtandomly when i visit sites all browsers just crash
[10:52] <ikonia> wiehan: thats dissapoiting
[10:52] <Shark_7-11> does Ubuntu SE have a X11 installed?
[10:52] <ikonia> Shark_7-11 what is ubuntu SE?
[10:53] <Shark_7-11> Server Edition
[10:53] <Phil__> ikonia: what's nslookup?
[10:53] <ikonia> Shark_7-11: I'm not aware of that product
[10:53] <rww> Shark_7-11: if by SE you mean Server Edition, then no, not by default
[10:53] <wiehan> ikonia: mate, I followed your advice to the letter...
[10:53] <ikonia> Phil__: a comamand
[10:53] <b1n42y> psypher246: but you just told me konquere error cant find page
[10:53] <ikonia> wiehan: I don't doubt it
[10:53] <Phil__> ikonia: okay, I'll check it out - thanks
[10:53] <Stavros> psypher246: bad memory?
[10:53] <Shark_7-11> rww: whats the easiest to install this?
[10:53] <ikonia> wiehan: we can work it through, don't worry
[10:53] <bushd> Psypher will it crash when you visit a site always?  Say if xyz.com crashes your browser does it always do it?
[10:53] <blip99> can anyone help me with my dialup modem problem... i get no sound while connecting
[10:53] <psypher246> i have checked memory
[10:53] <Stavros> ag
[10:53] <Stavros> ah
[10:53] <sky_> on ubuntu is fixed pulse audio or still is failed ?
[10:53] <rww> Shark_7-11: do you just need X11, or do you also need Gnome?
[10:53] <psypher246> bushd: no, sometimes sites crash, sometime the same site doesn't
[10:53] <psypher246> really really random
[10:53] <Shark_7-11> rww: only X11
[10:53] <ikonia> Shark_7-11: install ubuntu desktop version
[10:54] <rww> Shark_7-11: sudo apt-get install xorg
[10:54] <wiehan> ikonia: one thing I noticed: you said: you said: edit /etc/mdadm.conf and that doesn't exist I did it at /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf... that exists... i doubt that is the probelm//
[10:54] <Shark_7-11> rww: tx
[10:54] <ikonia> wiehan Hmmmm one moment
[10:54] <psypher246> does anyone know what to do after you type fifefox -g?
[10:54] <psypher246> firefoc -g
[10:54] <psypher246> damit
[10:54] <allsystemsarego> psypher246, try this in a terminal, see if it works "wget -q -O- http://www.google.com/"
[10:54] <shiv_j> plz help fix synaptic every time I add a repo I have to do sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[10:55] <b1n42y> psypher246: go test memory via mm86
[10:55] <psypher246> b1n42y: i did that already
[10:55] <bushd> psypher246: That's odd.  Open firefox and addon that script blocking addon - cant remember the name right now.
[10:55] <psypher246> allsystemsarego: worked fine
[10:55] <rww> psypher246, bushd: noscript?
[10:55] <psypher246> i know which one
[10:55] <ShishKabab> Hi. I've just installed Ubuntu 8.10 in a virtual machine. I wanted to test my KDE4 app under Ubuntu. I've installed the libs and the app runs, but the Oxygen skin is missing. Where can I find it?
[10:55] <bushd> I guess so, I hated it and blocked it out mentally
[10:56] <Photoguy> Is this finished? ot is it still going?              (Reading database ... 150971 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace wbar 1.3.3 (using wbar_1.3.3_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement wbar ... Setting up wbar (1.3.3) ...
[10:56] <psypher246> really don't think it will make a diff but will try anything
[10:56] <psypher246> bushd: yeah dittp
[10:56] <psypher246> ditto
[10:56] <panasonysung> ok I want to keep my system up to date but how do I revert to a previous custom kernel of mine after I download headers and kernel image files
[10:56] <bushd> Well, that would boil it down to parsing scripts (Java, etc) or something core like a package causing it
[10:56] <veltsu> My problem is with my sound card in Intrepid Ibex. It does not work no matter what I try. Does anyone have any good suggestions on how to advance? (Changing back to Windows will not be helpful)
[10:56] <ikonia> wiehan: just checking something
[10:56] <psypher246> werid, instead of closing, konq comes up with an error page in the browser window\
[10:57] <wiehan> ikonia: ok bud
[10:57] <psypher246> IF ONLY I CAN TRULY RUN A DEBUG ON FIREFOX
[10:57] <sky_> veltsu: try another distro :PP
[10:57] <b1n42y> psypher246: I would be looking into konqueror, its the only browser that acts differrently, no crash and yet you cant access google
[10:57] <psypher246> sorry didn't mean to use caops
[10:57] <allsystemsarego> ShishKabab, it's called oxygen-cursor-theme
[10:57] <ikonia> wiehan no, thats the wrong file to edit
[10:57] <veltsu> sky, thank you. I have thought about that too. Also buying a new laptop might be an option
[10:57] <Photoguy> ikonia Is this finished? or is it still going?              (Reading database ... 150971 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace wbar 1.3.3 (using wbar_1.3.3_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement wbar ... Setting up wbar (1.3.3) ...
[10:57] <Vinceman> it irks me
[10:57] <ikonia> Photoguy you'll get a prompt back when it's finished
[10:57] <allsystemsarego> ShishKabab, sudo apt-get install oxygen-cursor-theme
[10:57] <bushd> Does Konq use Java, Flash and the like or is it W3 html only?
[10:58] <psypher246> b1n42y: google worked like 2 times
[10:58] <wiehan> ikonia: but that file actually existed with all the proper contents... and the one you mentioned didn't exist
[10:58] <psypher246> but yeah it didn't close, still no errors to work with
[10:58] <b1n42y> psypher246: but no crash ?
[10:58] <psypher246> so yeah if anyone knows how to debug FF
[10:58] <psypher246> yup
[10:58] <ikonia> wiehan just reading won't be a minute
[10:58] <ikonia> wiehan can you pastebin that file for me please
[10:58] <sidhrt> can anyone help with my usb hard drive problem, please?
[10:58] <bushd> If you ran the -g /usr/bin/gdb/crashy on firefox you should be able to open that file to debug FF
[10:59] <sky_> veltsu: check your PM :P
[10:59] <tiyowan> !ask | sidhrt
[10:59] <tiyowan> Oops
[10:59] <b1n42y> well its something in your system then, if its affecting opera, FF but acts differently with firefox, is your work computer the home computer but with differeeent internet connection />
[10:59] <tiyowan> sidhrt: What seems to be the problem?
[10:59] <trwww> where is the welcome screen xml configuration file?
[10:59] <b1n42y> psypher246: *konqeuror
[10:59] <sidhrt> tiyowan: its not getting detected when i connect it.
[11:00] <psypher246> b1n42y: yeah konq doesn't crash ut doens't give usefull error either
[11:00] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Okay. Please connect the external hard drive. Go to a terminal and type lsusb. Do you see your drive there?
[11:00] <b1n42y> psypher246: ya but thats the thing it gives you a clue
[11:00] <wiehan> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d58e10cba
[11:00] <ShishKabab> I've installed it but it still can't find the oxygen style
[11:00] <psypher246> well it still proves that something other than FF is stuffed
[11:00] <b1n42y> psypher246: are we talking about just one computer or 2
[11:01] <psypher246> just one so far, too scared to run updates on my home pc, at least i can browse there
[11:01] <psypher246> also intrepid 64
[11:01] <sidhrt> tiyowan: how do i know its my drive?
[11:01] <ikonia> wiehan: ls -la /dev/md1 please
[11:01] <bushd> Psypher did this happen after you let something update?
[11:01] <ikonia> wiehan: that si the right file, ubuntu just does it differently again......
[11:02] <bushd> psypher246, or rather start after an update
[11:02] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Type lsusb and paste the output into pastebin.ubuntu.com please.
[11:02] <b1n42y> psypher246: have you looked through bootup log
[11:02] <wiehan> ikonia: ls: cannot access /dev/md1: No such file or directory
[11:02] <psypher246> well not sure, problem strated a week ago0 and i do updatyes as they come in. NEVER EVER DOING THAT AGAIN. too many times now ubuntu has done the microsoft update kill your computer thing
[11:02] <ikonia> wiehan now try /dev/md0
[11:02] <bushd> I don't see why bootup log would affect browsers
[11:02] <sidhrt> tiyowan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87725/
[11:03] <Photoguy> ikonia is this the prompt? normal starting command thing?  adams@ubuntu:~$
[11:03] <wiehan> ikonia: /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[11:03] <psypher246> yeah me neither but will check
[11:03] <ikonia> Photoguy yes
[11:03] <b1n42y> psypher246: i had a problem with no internet connection on my laptop today even though i had connection to my access point, turns out it was a cluster manager i installed to muck around with
[11:03] <Photoguy> Ok, thanks.
[11:03] <Stavros> does no one here have an eee box?
[11:03] <wiehan> ikonia: oops, sorry i know what you meant
[11:03] <spunk> Hello! This morning I ran into problems when I tried to install an update for 8.04. The update manager fails with this message: "'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'" How can I resolve this?
[11:03] <psypher246> sorry Stavros, i have an eee 701
[11:03] <bushd> psypher246, Well, do you allow prerelease or unsupported updates?
[11:04] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Okay. Could you try connecting the drive to another USB port and repeating the lsusb cmd to see if there's any change?
[11:04] <Stavros> psypher246: maybe you can help me, i need to set the flash disk as the first boot device but i have no screen
[11:04] <panasonysung> does anyone know if the linux-2.6.27 kernel in the repos has the security vulnerablility that they released in Intrepid Ibex?
[11:04] <wiehan> ikonia: nope, ls: cannot access /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[11:04] <b1n42y> bushd: good ? im curious also
[11:04] <Stavros> psypher246: can you tell me the keystrokes? the bios should be the same
[11:04] <psypher246> lemlemme check
[11:04] <ikonia> wiehan ok, so lets try this
[11:04] <tiyowan> panasonysung: What security vulnerability?
[11:04] <psypher246> i have backports activated
[11:04] <sidhrt> tiyowan; no change ...
[11:04] <panasonysung> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Kernel-Vulnerability-in-Ubuntu-8-10-Update-Today-97543.shtml
[11:04] <allsystemsarego> panasonysung, link?
[11:05] <b1n42y> psypher246: at least you arent affected by yesterdays virus, hooray for linux
[11:05] <ikonia> wiehan: mdadm --scan
[11:05] <Stavros> psypher246: can i pm you?
[11:05] <psypher246> what that IE thing
[11:05] <ikonia> wiehan: sudo mdadm --scan
[11:05] <bushd> The new IE vulnerability?
[11:05] <psypher246> sure
[11:05] <b1n42y> ya
[11:05] <psypher246> stavros
[11:05] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Hmm. Do you hear a noise from your drive when you connect it? And does the light turn on?
[11:05] <bushd> I'd uncheck the backports for updating
[11:05] <wiehan> ikonia: mdadm: --scan does not set the mode, and so cannot be the first option.
[11:05] <ikonia> wiehan: sorry --detail --scan
[11:05] <sidhrt> tiyowan: yes.. i hear the sound and there's a ;light.
[11:06] <bushd> psypher246, Also, update your computer again.
[11:06] <wiehan> ikonia: mdadm: metadata format 00.90 unknown, ignored.
[11:06] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Does this external drive work in another computer?
[11:06] <ikonia> wiehan ahh
[11:06] <ikonia> wiehan: from the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf file remove the metadata info
[11:06] <psypher246> bushd: i have, ran updates today as i saw FF updates
[11:06] <ikonia> wiehan: remove that wiehan
[11:06] <ikonia> oops
[11:06] <ikonia> wiehan: remove metadata=00.90
[11:07] <b1n42y> psypher246: i ran those also, all is well here
[11:07] <bushd> psypher246, I see those FF updates
[11:07] <sidhrt> tiyowan: it was working fine till yesterday. only today it doesnt work.and i havent checked in other computer
[11:07] <wiehan> ikonia: ok... and replace it with nothing?
[11:07] <bushd> I haven't updated yet though
[11:07] <b1n42y> sleep time GL all
[11:08] <ikonia> yup, so it will look like num-devices=2 UUID=2f5a9c35:0dc5194f:d12aac97:1c8d863e
[11:08] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Okay. Do you have another computer available nearby to check?
[11:08] <ikonia> wiehan: does that make sense
[11:08] <bushd> psypher246, I'm installing them myself though you're on a 64bit system so you can't rule out updates causing your issue prior to the new ones.
[11:08] <ikonia> wiehan: just a space between the num-devices=2 and then the uuid=blah
[11:08] <sidhrt> tiyowan: not until sunday.
[11:08] <wiehan> ikonia: i removed it and saved... now whta?
[11:09] <tiyowan> sidhrt: Do you have Windows available on this machine?
[11:09] <ikonia> wiehan: try another sudo mdadm --detail --scan
[11:09] <wiehan> ikonia: ok. did that.
[11:09] <bushd> psypher246, Have you tried searching to find others with the same bug and how it was fixed?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[11:09] <sidhrt> tiyowan: no. only ubuntu.
[11:09] <psypher246> i found one guy who posted something similar, a reinstall fixed his problem
[11:09] <wiehan> ikonia: sudo mdadm --detail --scan resulted in no output??
[11:09] <ikonia> wiehan ok thats fine
[11:09] <bushd> Are you using synaptic to deal with the uninstall?
[11:09] <ikonia> wiehan: now try a reboot, lets see if /dev/mda1 gets started
[11:10] <tiyowan> sidhrt: I can't help you, then. I'd recommend you check out the hard drive in another computer. If it doesn't work there, then I'd try using another USB cable. If it still doesn't work, then probably your drive's fried.
[11:10] <ikonia> wiehan: looks like some additional info has been added to mdadm's out put that the config file doesn't like
[11:10] <wiehan> ikonia: ok did that.. hang on. thanks.
[11:10] <InitMass> i can't start firefox as user but as root it's still possible
[11:11] <ikonia> wiehan also comment out wiehan
[11:11] <ikonia> wiehan: also comment out DEVICE /dev/hdb /dev/hdc
[11:11] <ikonia> in the config file
[11:11] <bushd> psypher246, In Synaptic Package Manager find firefox and check Mark for Complete Removal, not just uninstall.
[11:11] <ikonia> wiehan: it's only scanning those 2 devices
[11:11] <ikonia> wiehan or change it to DEVICE partitions
[11:11] <psypher246> done that already
[11:11] <psypher246> remember this problem is not FF
[11:12] <gs> Hello, I am not able to read PDF files from the net.  I tried Konqueror; Firefox and also opera. Can any one help me
[11:12] <tiyowan> psypher246: I missed your problem. Care to repeat it again?
[11:12] <gs> Hello, I am not able to read PDF files from the net. I tried Konqueror; Firefox and also opera. Can any one help me
[11:12] <bushd> psypher246, Did you run firefox -g /usr... and find the log?
[11:12] <psypher246> tiyowan: Since 2 weeks ago my browser just crashes all the time. I have tried safe mode, new profile, re-install ff, all plugins disabled, , disabled compiz, uninstall java, uninstall flash and stress tested RAM, CPU, hDD. Nothing works. FF and other browsers will still randomly crash. I have started a forum post on the problem but no resolution yet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6391180#post6391180.  I am not the only person it seems with
[11:12] <Photoguy> Avant winodws manager, but the terminal says this:  adams@ubuntu:~$
[11:12] <Photoguy> Oops
[11:12] <psypher246> bushd: explain?
[11:13] <allsystemsarego> gs, install mozplugger and try again
[11:13] <tiyowan> gs: Use evince.
[11:13] <gs> where do I get that allsy
[11:13] <bushd> psypher246, Try running firefox -g /usr/bin/gdb/crashy
[11:13] <Photoguy> Avant winodws manager, but the terminal says this:  adams@ubuntu:~$
[11:13] <Photoguy> No!
[11:13] <bushd> psypher246, When it crashes go open up crashy
[11:13] <ikonia> Photoguy: why do you keep saying that
[11:13] <allsystemsarego> gs, sudo apt-get install mozplugger
[11:13] <psypher246> k and then?
[11:13] <bushd> psypher246, Thats your debug log
[11:13] <allsystemsarego> gs, or look for it in synaptic
[11:13] <Photoguy> Avant winodws manager, but the terminal says this:  Error: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
[11:14] <Photoguy> There, sorry!
[11:14] <tiyowan> psypher246: What version of firefox are you using? And what version of ubuntu?
[11:14] <ikonia> Photoguy: sounds like you've not got compiz enabled
[11:14] <psypher246> and then what do i do, open a new ff window i'm still on the cli
[11:14] <InitMass> bushd, i've tried to make a complete removal of firefox but even after that it's still installed
[11:14] <gs> Thanks. I will try and get back.
[11:14] <bushd> InitMass, what's you're problem?
[11:14] <wiehan> ikonia: ok.. did that... changed to DEVICE partitions (with 's' on end - plurarl)
[11:15] <ikonia>  ahh well spotted
[11:15] <ikonia> wiehan: have you rebooted ?
[11:15] <ikonia> Webspot: well spotted it should have been partitions
[11:15] <psypher246> tiyowan: intrepid and 3.0.4, could be 3.0.5 aftre this morning
[11:15] <InitMass> bushd, firefox can't start as user but only as root. i've tried to remove the firefox user dir, still not working. i then tried to make a complete removal but firefox is still there
[11:16] <wiehan> ikonia: rebooting
[11:16] <bushd> InitMass, It sounds like firefox file(s) need to be chmodded is all
[11:17] <InitMass> bushd, how?
[11:17] <imaginativeone> I have an mp3.  how do I save it as an audio cd?
[11:17] <trwww> I have a Dell E1505N that came with fiesty... I installed 8.04 from the dell provided ISO and everything seems to be mostly working.
[11:17] <trwww> Compiz must be turned on and the windows' menu bars seem to get messed up. How can I either make it work or turn off compiz?
[11:17] <psypher246> bushd: sorry after i run firefox -g etc, what do i do, i am still on the clie with rpompt (gdb)
[11:17] <tiyowan> psypher246: Um, have you tried "complete removal" from synaptic?
[11:17] <psypher246> yes
[11:18] <allsystemsarego> imaginativeone, try mp3burn
[11:18] <InitMass> tiyowan, that didn't work for me. it's still there after the removal
[11:18] <gs> It did not work.  I am still getting the dialog box. It is a PDF file. OPEN WITH and I am not able to associate any prog with it
[11:18] <imaginativeone> allsystemsarego: thanks
[11:19] <allsystemsarego> trwww, System-Prefs-Appearance-VisualEffects
[11:19] <tiyowan> InitMass: Check out what bushd wrote. You've got a permissions problem with your firefox files.
[11:19] <wiehan> ikonia: rebooted
[11:19] <ikonia> wiehan: how we looking ?
[11:19] <gs> allsystemsarego: It did not work. I am still getting the dialog box. It is a PDF file. OPEN WITH and I am not able to associate any prog with it
[11:19] <bushd> I was trying to find out where the file resided
[11:19] <InitMass> tiyowan, that still doesn't explain why i can't uninstall it
[11:20] <wiehan> ikonia: I'm too afraid to do anything without the word from you
[11:20] <allsystemsarego> gs, in FF, go to Edit-Preferences-Applications
[11:20] <ikonia> wiehan well, cat /proc/mdstat is always safe
[11:20] <bushd> InitMass, Basically you need to read man chmod and then find where the firefox file is and change it.
[11:20] <allsystemsarego> gs, locate the PDF entry and change the associated action
[11:20] <wiehan> ikonia:  md1 : active raid1 sdb1[0] sdc1[1]             LOOKS GOOD
[11:20] <ikonia> wiehan tahts more like it
[11:20] <tiyowan> InitMass: "sudo apt-gel reinstall firefox" ?
[11:20] <InitMass> root@borgvall:~# ls -o /usr/bin/firefox
[11:20] <InitMass> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 11 2008-12-18 09:34 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
[11:20] <InitMass> root@borgvall:~# ls -o /usr/bin/firefox-3.0
[11:20] <InitMass> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 31 2008-12-18 09:34 /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 -> ../lib/firefox-3.0
[11:20] <psypher246> bushd: i ran that commadn then  opened a new ff window cerashed, nothing happened on the debug cli
[11:20] <FloodBot3> InitMass: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <DefamedPrawn> hi. I keep trying to install the flashplugin non free but I get this error:md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz The Flash plugin is NOT installed."
[11:20] <ikonia> wiehan: put a file system on it and your ready to go
[11:20] <bushd> InitMass Try using sudo apt-get remove firefox (or uninstall, I get them baxed)
[11:21] <veltsu> I tried installing the most recent alsa drivers using the script that's supposed to be really good. The installation resulted in an error while trying to compile the drivers. Anyone know what's going on?
[11:21] <bushd> psypher246, Oh, sorry - when gdb comes up type in run
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: how are you installing it?
[11:21] <ikonia> veltsu don't use someones script thats really good
[11:21] <wiehan> ikonia: what is your thoughts about XFS... it's solely for large multimedia files...
[11:21] <ikonia> veltsu: we can't support that
[11:21] <Monkier2> Anyone had luck getting opera to run on ubuntu?
[11:21] <InitMass> bushd, doesn't work here
[11:21] <ikonia> wiehan: I use it for my mythTV server, so I agree
[11:21] <bushd> InitMass, what does it say?
[11:21] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 apt-get. That's the error I get. And it's not wrong either: flash isn't installed.
[11:21] <allsystemsarego> Monkier2, opera works fine
[11:21] <wiehan> ikonia: sudo mkfs.xfs /dev/md1 ? Safe?
[11:22] <riz0n> welp i am taking ebox off my server
[11:22] <ikonia> wiehan looks good to me
[11:22] <sky_> Monkier2: download it ? but Opera is not and open source i recomended FX
[11:22] <ikonia> riz0n: ok ?
[11:22] <InitMass> bushd, i can remove is but it's still there when i try to start it
[11:22] <riz0n> appears my issue was due to the static IP config
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:22] <Monkier2> closed source yes, but presto 2.2 is really great, 100% on acid3 test
[11:22] <veltsu> ikonia: a just point. I'll refrain from using really good scripts
[11:22] <bushd> What does apt-get remove say?
[11:22] <chief> hi, ibex 8.10 why is my entire repository completely empty it isn't even displaying things I've installed!
[11:22] <ikonia> chief: what repo ?
[11:23] <ikonia> chief: what are you doing to see if it's empty
[11:23] <allsystemsarego> Monkier2, check medibuntu
[11:23] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 ok doing it now ....
[11:23] <ikonia> veltsu: contact the guy who wrote the script
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: if you run 64bit theres a 64bit flash plugin you can download from adobe.com and put in ~/.mozilla/plugins (you need to make the plugins folder yourself)
[11:23] <chief> ikonia, just searching the sections, status and stuff, the repo is from a New Zealand server
[11:23] <wiehan> ikonia: sorry to be such a nag but with all this progress I just wanna play it safe: mkfs.xfs: Use the -f option to force overwrite. is that fine?
[11:23] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 same error "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz The Flash plugin is NOT installed."
[11:23] <ikonia> wiehan no problem at all
[11:24] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 no I don't have 64 bits. Barely have 32.
[11:24] <ikonia> wiehan: no danger -f
[11:24] <gs> allsystemsarego: change to what? I have only 2 options save file and always ask. In the other option which is the prog I have to associate that file
[11:24] <ikonia> chief: what happens if you do a sudo apt-get update ?
[11:25] <chief> ikonia, I'll check
[11:25] <allsystemsarego> gs, restart FF and try again
[11:25] <bushd> psypher246, Does your FF crash on google.com?
[11:25] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 what does adobe-flashplugin do?
[11:25] <wiehan> ikonia: I think it worked... I need a break - you as well mate! Thank so very much...
[11:25] <allsystemsarego> gs, also, do you have evince on your system?
[11:25] <ikonia> 11:25 < wiehan> ikonia: I think it worked... I need a break - you as
[11:25] <ikonia> oops
[11:25] <ikonia> wiehan more than welcome
[11:25] <wiehan> ikonia: You are a legend... May I ask what do you do for a living?
[11:25] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 adobe-flashplugin works. It's ok.
[11:25] <gs> allsystemsarego: What is the change I have to make.  I have only 2 options, save file; and always ask.  What is the prog which I have to assoicate in case, i choose the other action option
[11:25] <ikonia> wiehan: work with unix,
[11:25] <chief> ikonia, goes through a lot of  http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com ... Hit / Ign and then says done
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: dpkg -l | grep -i flash
[11:25] <bushd> lol
[11:26] <wiehan> ikonia: it seemed so... you are awesome...
[11:26] <ikonia> chief now try apt-cache search conky
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: uninstall ALL flash plugins
[11:26] <allsystemsarego> gs, it's called evince
[11:26] <wiehan> ikonia: I love you.
[11:26] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 ALL ? Why ... adobe-flashplugin works.
[11:26] <ikonia> wiehan: no problem, enjoy your new disks
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: then head to something like http://www.rathergood.com/blode2 and it will be offered to you
[11:26] <Scare|Working> hi all
[11:26] <trwww> allsystemsarego: thats what I was looking for as far as turning it off... but is there a configuration screen that covers detailed confguration? Would I have to install Emerald?
[11:26] <chief> ikonia, no return value
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: then use that
[11:26] <InitMass> bushd, said that it would remove firefox
[11:27] <allsystemsarego> !ccsm | trwww
[11:27] <gs> allsystemsarego: Where do I find that.  I am new to Kubuntu and liked working on the same.  Help me
[11:27] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 what's blode2 then?
[11:27] <ikonia> chief can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[11:27] <mich123> !list
[11:27] <allsystemsarego> gs, you're on kubuntu?
[11:27] <chief> ikonia, sure
[11:27] <gs> allsystemsarego: Yes
[11:27] <bushd> InitMass, Have you installed firefox in any method besides packager/apt-get?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: its a silly flash anim
[11:27] <allsystemsarego> gs, install kpdf first
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> DefamedPrawn: with some drum n bass in the background
[11:28] <gs> allsystemsarego: I do not find that in the Adept Manager
[11:28] <karyo_peang> someone can help me?
[11:28] <DefamedPrawn> ActionParsnip1 it has too.
[11:28] <allsystemsarego> gs, adept install kpdf
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | karyo_peang
[11:28] <warrior_du_dead> anyone knows anything about curl
[11:28] <karyo_peang> hello all
[11:28] <karyo_peang> pls
[11:29] <chief> ikonia, umm it's empty I do have a sources.list.akiradbackup thou which has some data in it
[11:29] <anvesh_agx> how to transform my ubuntu into  mac [looks only] im a complete noob plz help
[11:29] <gs> allsystemsarego: do I have to give that command in the terminal?
[11:29] <karyo_peang> hello
[11:29] <allsystemsarego> gs, yes
[11:29] <InitMass> bushd, no
[11:29] <ikonia> chief change it from sources.list.akiradbackup to sources.list
[11:29] <psypher246> bushd: got an error, but lots of errors, what do i look for?
[11:29] <ikonia> chief: then re-run apt-get update
[11:29] <InitMass> bushd, i removed everything related to firefox manually and then installed it but it doesn't seem to install anything even if it say it does
[11:29] <allsystemsarego> gs, in a root terminal
[11:29] <lianimator> What does eclipse and OOo have in common? the RBGA inversion of the titlebar. ( in compiz )
[11:29] <karyo_peang> i have trouble.how to dial up my mobile phone via blutooth
[11:29] <karyo_peang> i have trouble.how to dial up my mobile phone via blutooth
[11:30] <bushd> I don't know how Synaptic would deal with manual removal of programs but I'd assume like anything it doesn't like giving up control.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: did you rename ~~/.mozilla ?
[11:30] <anvesh_agx> how to transform my ubuntu into  mac [looks only] im a complete noob plz help
[11:30] <anvesh_agx> how to transform my ubuntu into  mac [looks only] im a complete noob plz help
[11:30] <chief> ikonia, still empty
[11:30] <InitMass> ActionParsnip1, yes
[11:30] <ikonia> chief pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:30] <sky_> anvesh_agx: kde-look.org/gnome-look.org
[11:30] <wiehan> anvesh_agx: google mac4lin follow the instructions
[11:31] <anvesh_agx> thanks
[11:31] <bushd> Search for mozilla and firefox at all InitMass?
[11:31] <wiehan> cheers people. cheers ikonia
[11:31] <wiehan> thanks
[11:31] <gs> allsystemsarego: This is the message I get when i try this. You apparently do not have sufficient permissions to install or remove programs. You may need to run this program as user root (or through kdesudo) to gain write access.
[11:31] <ikonia> welcome
[11:31] <karyo_peang> i have trouble.how to dial up my mobile phone via blutooth.pls chief
[11:31] <sky_> hi
[11:32] <chief> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m1848a93
[11:32] <InitMass> bushd, what do you mean?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup; sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox-3.0; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[11:32] <bushd> InitMass, Make sure your search includes hidden files - you said you manually removed
[11:33] <bushd> InitMass, Run a search using mozilla then firefox and do so with hidden files included.
[11:33] <chief> ikonia, I'm also using AMD64 version of ubuntu
[11:33] <ikonia> chief that mirrors contents looks the same as mine
[11:34] <gs> allsystemsarego: should I use the F3 command and get the kde sudo
[11:34] <chief> ikonia, uhmm odd wonder what's wrong with synaptic
[11:34] <ikonia> chief don't think it's synaptic as apt-cache search conky is showing blank
[11:34] <Bert_2> Hi, I've made my own usplash theme thing, I've got the .so but I don't know how I'm supposed to install it, can someone explain that to me ?
[11:34] <ikonia> chief: and you %100 did "sudo apt-get update" before you search for conky and it gives no errors during or after the udpatre
[11:34] <ikonia> updat
[11:34] <chief> well it's display contents now, maybe... I had to wait a bit for it to catch up with me
[11:35] <ikonia> echief your fine then, your working
[11:35] <allsystemsarego> gs, put "sudo" in front of the command
[11:35] <instant> moi
[11:36] <allsystemsarego> gs, up arrow to recall the command, then put "sudo " in front of it
[11:36] <InitMass> ActionParsnip1, didn't solve the problem
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87744/
[11:36] <instant> miten    täälä toimitaan olen totally newbie
[11:36] <vorsprung> hello
[11:37] <allsystemsarego> gs, but you should be able to find kpdf in the package manager
[11:37] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1 looks fine to me
[11:37] <vorsprung> I want to rebuild the kernel to turn on usb debugging
[11:37] <allsystemsarego> !kernel
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: weird how he cant install conky
[11:37] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1 look slike he can now
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: amazing ;)
[11:37] <InitMass> bushd, everything removed but that didn't help either
[11:38] <vorsprung> allsystemsarego: I'm trying to follow those instructions already
[11:38] <chief> ikonia, thanks for your help.. I at least know a bit more about this distro now :)
[11:38] <vorsprung> allsystemsarego: problem is that my debian/rules seem to have disappeared
[11:38] <ikonia> chief: no problem
[11:38] <psypher246> *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.5/firefox: double free or corruption
[11:38] <psypher246> nothing in google!!!
[11:38] <psypher246> wtf|?
[11:38] <bushd> InitMass, So firefox is still running even when you've deleted everything?
[11:38] <instant> i am totally newbie with linux but now im running 8.10 in my laptop acer aspire 1350 works fine
[11:38] <ikonia> psypher246 firefox 3.0.5 ?
[11:38] <psypher246> yes
[11:38] <ikonia> psypher246: where did you get that
[11:38] <psypher246> updated today
[11:39] <gs> allsystemsarego: but I get this message in the package manager There is no matching application available.
[11:39] <psypher246> could it be glibc thats buggred?
[11:39] <ikonia> psypher246 can't see it myself
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: try www.ask.com
[11:39] <psypher246> i got that now when i ran from terminal, had the similar error in debug
[11:39] <ikonia> psypher246: just updating myself to look at something
[11:40] <InitMass> bushd, no it's not
[11:40] <instant> vitun mulkut kukaan ei juttele mulle
[11:40] <allsystemsarego> gs, then I'll refer you to medibuntu and acrobat reader
[11:40] <InitMass> bushd, but removing all files and reinstalling did't help
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> psypher246: there is more than google, they use different search methods so will yield different results
[11:40] <allsystemsarego> !medibuntu | gs
[11:40] <psypher246> ikonia: thats just one line oA VERY BIG ERROR OUTPUT
[11:40] <bushd> InitMass, So firefox won't start anymore even after install?
[11:41] <ikonia> psypher246 fancy pastebinning the lot, or putting it on the web in a text file
[11:41] <allsystemsarego> gs, read about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[11:41] <NEOeclipse> once someone is free i need some help with ubuntu
[11:41] <gs> allsystemsarego: Do I go to the said address and down load it from there.  Is it easy for me to install that.
[11:42] <psypher246> hold on a sec, found a bug report Firefox crashes randomly: *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.4/firefox: double free or corruption (fasttop)
[11:42] <allsystemsarego> gs, afterwards you need to install package acroread
[11:42] <psypher246> ah it's the same one!!!
[11:42] <allsystemsarego> gs, read the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[11:42] <allsystemsarego> gs, you'll have a new repository
[11:42] <InitMass> bushd, i can install firefox but no files got installed
[11:43] <allsystemsarego> gs, I need to go now
[11:43] <allsystemsarego> gs, good luck
[11:43] <bushd> InitMass, Synaptic Package Manager I assume?
[11:43] <InitMass> bushd, command line
[11:43] <gs> allsystemsarego: thanks a lot I ll try it out
[11:43] <InitMass> bushd, apt
[11:44] <riz0n> how can i kill sessions which appear in w?
[11:45] <NEOeclipse> man i cant even install ubuntu
[11:45] <vorsprung> allsystemsarego: problem is that my debian/rules seem to have disappeared.....fixed it with  make-kpkg...good job I use debian too isn't it?
[11:46] <Monkier2> at what point in the installation do you get stuck neo?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: did you md5 check your install media?
[11:46] <NEOeclipse> wallpaper loads up...i see the mouse, sits there for awhile(i hear cd and drive working) and then eventually i get installer crash error
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: and verify there were no errors on the disk once it was burned
[11:46] <blame> Hello. I've installed Ub. 8.10 and the system asked me to install Nvidia drivers, after which when the computer boots turns of my monitor, can you one help? Here is the xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1288531
[11:47] <Monkier2> its good to burn the disk as slow as possible
[11:47] <Monkier2> i use 4x write speed
[11:47] <jon_snow> good
[11:47] <psypher246> YAY this is a bug, i don't have to re-install!!!!
[11:47] <InitMass> bushd, when installing firefox-3.0 only the doc files get installed
[11:47] <NEOeclipse> i ran the disck check from the disk and it say all was good
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> Monkier2: me too dude
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: try installing it via apt-build (?)
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> ok so ill burn a copy now @ 4x
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> and prayyyy i get lucky
[11:48] <Monkier2> maybe its just my drive, but whenever i set it to the default setting, it gives me all sorts of errors
[11:48] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: md5 check the iso before you burn
[11:48] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: you may have a bad image
[11:48] <Monkier2> well, what type of hardware are you putting it on neo?
[11:48] <bushd> InitMass, Do you sudo apt-get install firefox or are you specifying firefox-3.0?
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> just an old laptop of mine
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> 10Gb drive, 700mhz intel
[11:48] <NEOeclipse> something to play with
[11:48] <InitMass> bushd, i've tried bot firefox and firefox-3.0
[11:49] <_pants_> i have a super quick Q about trying to get a subinterface to go away if one of you doesn't mind
[11:49] <_pants_> i added it in /etc/network/interfaces , then didn't need it so i removed it and did a networking restart
[11:49] <_pants_> but it persists as reported by ifconfig and pinging
[11:50] <NEOeclipse> whats the md5 of the install
[11:50] <NEOeclipse> i got ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:50] <riz0n> _pants_ did you remove it from the auto line?
[11:50] <_pants_> yeap
[11:50] <shrini> My reliance data card is not recognized at ubuntu
[11:50] <riz0n> when you reboot the machine does the IP still remain bound?
[11:50] <shrini>  it is a new model - ADM-100c
[11:50] <_pants_> well i doubt it will
[11:50] <shrini> need help
[11:51] <_pants_> but its more of a question just for knowing in case i have to remove it in a production environment
[11:51] <victorloverain> hi all
[11:51] <bushd> InitMass, Sometimes I get things working from Application installer I can't from Synaptic -- why I don't know and really don't care.  Try Application-->Add/Remove and then search for firefox.
[11:51] <blame> Ubuntu installed nvidia drivers and they are not working? Why ask me when they cripple my computer? http://pastebin.ca/1288531
[11:52] <riz0n> That's new to me, however, normally I don't remove IP's from my network/interfaces file
[11:52] <riz0n> maybe someone else can answer that question for you
[11:52] <_pants_> i can use ifconfig to assign it a bogus address but that would look hokey
[11:52] <_pants_> alright no prob
[11:52] <_pants_> my roomie is a debian zealot but is out of town :(
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: if that doesnt work, i'd try an install using apt-build, it could just work
[11:53] <syberjj> guys is there any special things i must do to be able to use a printer that is connected to a windows box and shared in my network? i got some errors....
[11:54] <NEOeclipse> well md5 is correct
[11:54] <NEOeclipse> as site states
[11:54] <NEOeclipse> im gonna burn @ slower speed now
[11:54] <quizme> how do i install a mp4 player that works?
[11:54] <Monkier2> probably just a bad burn last time
[11:54] <InitMass> bushd, Cannot remove 'firefox-3.0-branding' i've got to use synaptics to remove the depending packages
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> syberjj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[11:54] <quizme> totem is saying i need the H.264 codec and another one
[11:54] <riz0n> From the command line, how can i kill a session, for instance, the session which is running on pts/1
[11:54] <NEOeclipse> 4x burn now :-)
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: with bootable disks, slower is better
[11:55] <Monkier2> i recently invested in a 100 stack of dvds, and i never use dvds, ive just had a lot of back luck with burns
[11:55] <NEOeclipse> yeah, weird tho cause i rarely have this problem
[11:55] <NEOeclipse> oh well
[11:55] <NEOeclipse> i got plenty of blanks so i dont mind
[11:55] <syberjj> ActionParsnip1 - hey again mate, i did all that, didnt work. i can post the error log if u want to, but i dont know what to learn from it myself
[11:55] <quizme> is totem the way to go ?
[11:55] <InitMass> ActionParsnip1, i'll try to download from mozilla.org
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> syberjj: i have no idea man, i share the other way which is a breeze
[11:56] <Monkier2> question- anyone been able to activate the advanced view of the catalyst control center for nvidia graphics cards?
[11:56] <Monkier2> the card runs kind of hot at auto fan speed, it makes me nerverous
[11:56] <syberjj> ActionParsnip1 - you use ubuntu as the host? does it work fine? what kind of printer do u have?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: sudo apt-get install apt-build; sudo apt-build update; sudo apt-build install firefox-3.0
[11:56] <Monkier2> why did i type nvidia
[11:56] <Monkier2> i meant ati
[11:57] <bushd> InitMass, so synaptic thinks you've still got packages around that aren't there?
[11:57] <InitMass> ActionParsnip1, does that mean i will build the firefox package?
[11:57] <_pants_> riz0n do a ps -ef |grep pts\/1 then kill the lowest process ID in the 2nd column ( kill 1234 )
[11:57] <quizme> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 if i have 8.04 now ?
[11:57] <blame> Ubuntu installed nvidia drivers and they are not working? Why ask me when they cripple my computer? http://pastebin.ca/1288531
[11:58] <NEOeclipse> damn guess my burner dont like 4x
[11:58] <_pants_> and if it wont die, kill -9 1234
[11:58] <NEOeclipse> burned @ 8x
[11:58] <NEOeclipse> burning*
[11:58] <InitMass> bushd, if i use the add/remove menu then it will try to remove the -branding package and firefox is depending on that one to i have to use synaptic to remve it
[11:58] <InitMass> bushd, i'll try to download and install from mozilla.org
[11:59] <bushd> InitMass, Remove those dep. packages then
[11:59] <Monkier2> man, the alpha version of opera is awesome
[12:00] <Monkier2> faster than google chrome
[12:00] <Monkier2> higher acid3 test result than firefox
[12:00] <riz0n> _pants_ thanks for the info
[12:00] <bushd> InitMass, then try to reinstall.  I don't know why there would be an issue but some of the things I've heard about in here are far more odd.
[12:00] <_pants_> np
[12:00] <riz0n> and that did it :)
[12:01] <_pants_> processes fork from one, so when you or someone starts a new pty, the process "tree" forks out. killing the lowest PID kills the very top, and all the children die with it
[12:01] <abarai_renji> hi, does anyone know an url for compatible joystick in ubuntu 8.10
[12:01] <bushd> abarai_renji, PS3 remote controller :D
[12:01] <riz0n> well the session was sitting at bash prompt and was idle
[12:01] <InitMass> bushd, ActionParsnip1 think i've found someting now. tried to run to run the package from mozilla.org and changed the owner to the user i'm running as on the package. still can't run as user but root is working. that was when running ./firefox . running ./firefox-bin resulted in "./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" for both user and root
[12:02] <quizme> does anybody know how to install codecs to view mp4 files on Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[12:02] <riz0n> so it only returned 2 running processes
[12:02] <_pants_> ah yeah someone musta timed out
[12:02] <riz0n> yeah, me ;)
[12:02] <_pants_> ps axjf  gives a neato tree
[12:02] <tiyowan> InitMass: Your ff problem still isn't fixed yet?
[12:02] <_pants_> lol
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: i'd try apt-build
[12:03] <riz0n> now i need to work on getting a good outdoor antenna for my WRT54G router, and i'll be set ;)
[12:03] <abarai_renji> bushd :)
[12:03] <_pants_> yeah i need to work on just getting a new router, mine is old and cranky
[12:03] <ays> ActionParsnip1 o/
[12:03] <riz0n> well i actually use mine in "client mode" to login to other wifi's
[12:03] <tiyowan> quizme | !multimedia
[12:04] <_pants_> heheh yeah when i was living in the bay area i didn't pay for internet for over a year
[12:04] <Shoopuf> Anyone ever set up their Ubuntu server as a single-person SVN?
[12:04] <Shoopuf> and got any tips?
[12:04] <solocommand> hey guys, anyone seen an issue with the screen saver on 8.10?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> ays: lo
[12:04] <Flumdahl> when i try to install ubuntu from a usb-stick ... why does it complain about there is no cd in the cd drive?
[12:04] <InitMass> tiyowan, no
[12:04] <bushd> InitMass, possibly because you're running firefox sans package dependencies being met (packager takes care of that for you)
[12:05] <Flumdahl> unetbootin have i used to make my usb stick with the installation
[12:05] <hoelk> hi i need some help... i just plugged in a new soundcard.. what do i have to do that ubuntu recognizes it?
[12:05] <SpeCon> Is there any function in ubuntu or does there exist any software to get a dia presentation off my pictures on my desktop? For example on apple osx you can now have photo flashes on your desktop while your working. I mean no screensaver but just when you are working the background off your desktop changes all the time with different pictures that i selected?
[12:05] <NightDragon> When inserting an item into a linked list, having two pointers prevents having to pay attention to which of the following?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> solocommand: i had some in kde4.2 it wouldnt accept password to get back to desktop, switched to fluxbox, job done
[12:05] <NightDragon> i think the answer is "the sequence of operations"
[12:05] <NightDragon> you can theroretically add a node with just one pointer, but the order of things would be very important in that case
[12:05] <tiyowan> hoelk: Type lspci | grep audio and check whether it shows up, I think?
[12:06] <NightDragon> lest you dont want to lose your mem location
[12:06] <NightDragon> but if you have two pointers
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> SpeCon: you can set your desktop wallpaper as a slideshow
[12:06] <solocommand> eh, it seems to be that it just doesn't start; no fade out or anything after the time limit.
[12:06] <NightDragon> then things are easily rewired
[12:06] <NightDragon> ....right?
[12:06] <InitMass> bushd, tiyowan ActionParsnip1 i noticed that firefox had an old process running. after killing that nothing happens when i try to start firefox as user. before i got that window at least
[12:06] <sleepy_cat> alap
[12:06] <SpeCon> ActionParsnip1: okay tnx going to try that
[12:06] <hoelk> tiyowan, it does... but i cant select it in pulseaudio
[12:06] <racquad> hi guys, I'm heaving problems configuring my local printer under ltsp 5
[12:07] <quizme> tiyowan: what do you jmean !multimedia?
[12:07] <NightDragon> oops
[12:07] <tiyowan> quizme | !codecs
[12:07] <catmando> hey all
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> InitMass: try a reboot just to clear out anything that may be running with firefox
[12:07] <tiyowan> Okaaay.
[12:07] <obonds> Hey, I have an i7 920 - the 64bit ubuntu is named amd64
[12:07] <tiyowan> !codecs | quizme
[12:07] <obonds> Is this compatible? google just gives noise on the issue
[12:07] <Slart> obonds: yes
[12:08] <obonds> amd64 is the filename of the 64 8.10 download
[12:08] <obonds> why is it named incorrectly then?
[12:08] <_pants_> SpeCon: not that i know of. you could do some hokey looping script that changes it at random every minute but it wouldn't be fancy at all
[12:08] <tiyowan> Heh.
[12:08] <catmando> can someone recommend a tablet that has good compatibility with Linux?
[12:08] <Slart> obonds: it's just called amd64 as some kind of homage to AMD for creating the first consumer 64 bit chip or something like that
[12:08] <DefamedPrawn> hi. How do I use gksudo again?
[12:08] <solocommand> Haven't seen anything on the forum really relating to it, think switching to flux would make a difference?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | catmando
[12:08] <gab3> http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~ggreen/wine.png
[12:08] <racquad> where can I find info about it? I know that I have to configure lts.conf, but I don't know how
[12:08] <nutzer> hello
[12:09] <gab3> every wine program i use - wine, cedega, crossover -- the fonts are garbled like that..
[12:09] <gab3> any ideas why?
[12:09] <ikonia> racquad: lts.conf ???
[12:09] <nutzer> just a simple question I bought a new mini laptop where OpenOffice was installed
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> gab3: are you made of money, crossover AND edega?
[12:10] <nutzer> every time I have a crash down
[12:10] <nutzer> do I have to re-install it?
[12:10] <solocommand> haha
[12:10] <ikonia> nutzer: take it back to where you got it for support is the best idea
[12:10] <tiyowan> gab3: Are you using intrepid?
[12:10] <meganox> ActionParsnip1: crossover had a free download day recently ;)
[12:10] <ikonia> nutzer: if they have put the OS on they will know it's common issues
[12:10] <nutzer> yes I thought this would be the best
[12:11] <solocommand> wine seems to work fine on intrepid for me after clean install
[12:11] <tiyowan> gab3: Are you using intrepid, and do you have an nvidia card?
[12:11] <gab3> kubuntu 8.10
[12:11] <gab3> yes.
[12:11] <gab3> older one - geforce2mx
[12:11] <ays> ActionParsnip1 have you managed with MSMQ or you spanked your devs butts? ^^
[12:11] <gab3> with the binary driver
[12:11] <Monkier2> anyone know of a good amiga emulator thattl run on 8.10?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip1> ays: yeah i told them to look into it :)
[12:12] <zcserei> Does anyone know what's wrong with the #python channel?
[12:12] <manhhung> hello
[12:12] <tiyowan> gab3: Wait one.
[12:12] <chilli0> hey all
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> Monkier2: UAE but you will need the Amiga kickstart rom hich is copyrighted
[12:13] <tiyowan> gab3: This was originally reported as a bug; but there seems to be a fix. Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6360632
[12:13] <InitMass> rebooting
[12:13] <chilli0> does anyone have a dell  Studio 15 Laptop  running linux fine? how is the hardware support
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> Monkier2: you can dump them from an amiga though. there are guides
[12:13] <gab3> you rock!
[12:13] <gab3> thanks bro
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> Monkier2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201396
[12:13] <Monkier2> thanks
[12:14] <Monkier2> mostly I just want to play lemmings
[12:14] <tiyowan> chilli0: I've got a Dell e1705 here running Intrepid. Needed tweaking. Everything is good, except for some minor trouble with the ATI card.
[12:14] <allsystemsarego> Monkier2, uae
[12:14] <tiyowan> gab3: You're most welcome. :)
[12:14] <NEOeclipse> ok i am now trying the install again
[12:14] <allsystemsarego> Monkier2, uae - The Ubiquitous Amiga Emulator
[12:15] <sinbox> Hi, just checking my boot log as it's been slow booting recently and I can see about 90 lines that say>> New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/name-of-device-here  << except I haven't added a device, and a lot of alsa related stuff apears in there as well as oss stuff and pci stuff.  Any ideas what's gone wonky there?
[12:15] <Monkier2> aye, downloading
[12:15] <chilli0> tiyowan is the e1705 the same as studio 15?
[12:15] <tiyowan> chilli0: Um, e1705 is the model number of the laptop. It's the Inspiron series.
[12:15] <solocommand> anyone tried running beryl under intrepid?
[12:16] <Stavros> solocommand: i run compiz fusion
[12:16] <ikonia> solocommand: beryl is dead
[12:16] <ikonia> solocommand: replaced by compiz-fushion
[12:16] <ikonia> fusion
[12:16] <solocommand> ah
[12:16] <ikonia> solocommand: it's already installed on 8.10 for you
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> beryl isnt dead
[12:17] <solocommand> are the old beryl themes compatible with fusion?
[12:17] <shikshik> i know this is off topic but, what would you guys rather have, $150,000 lump sum,  or $10,000/month of income?
[12:17] <ndo> Hey guys, is there anyone with a littlebit of knowledge about tokenbus? :)
[12:17] <ndo> !tokenbus
[12:17] <ndo> !token bus
[12:17] <ndo> !token
[12:17] <ays> beryl looks awesome
[12:17] <merlin0810> it depends - you mean 10k per month for life?
[12:18] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: http://www.beryl-project.org/ yes it is
[12:18] <tiyowan> shikshik: Whatever my tax attorney recommends.
[12:18] <merlin0810> then it would depend on your age, I guess
[12:19] <shikshik> i guess 1-2 years guaranteed with the fact it can stop anytime?
[12:19] <chilli0> tiyowan ok
[12:19] <tiyowan> chilli0: If you'd give me the model number of your Dell, I could search the forums for you.
[12:20] <solocommand> id take teh 10k/month.
[12:20] <NEOeclipse> how long is this install supposed to take....it is just sitting there @ the screen with the wallpaper and a mouse icon, nothing else,
[12:20] <Stavros> NEOeclipse: click "install"
[12:20] <NEOeclipse> read what i just said
[12:20] <chilli0> tiyowan its just Studio 15
[12:20] <NEOeclipse> wallpaper and a mouse icon
[12:20] <NEOeclipse> nothing else
[12:20] <Stavros> reboot then
[12:20] <Stavros> and be less rude
[12:21] <whynot> I can't empty my trashcan in ubuntu.
[12:21] <solocommand> NEOeclipse: takes about 10m max for the installer to pop up
[12:21] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: im confusing it with emerald i think. i remember readinng something aout people thinkiing its dead but not
[12:21] <NEOeclipse> ok thank you solo
[12:21] <NEOeclipse> i been fighting this install for awhile
[12:21] <whynot> kernelcheck 1.1.4 and firefox update check folder, they are still there.
[12:21] <NEOeclipse> this is the 2nd cd for me now
[12:21] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1 beryl is official merged with compiz - so dead, possibly thinki9ng of emerald that is going strong
[12:21] <jilune> hello
[12:21] <whynot> However I try to delete them, they just remain.  what should I do?
[12:22] <Jeaton> i apt-get tovid, but where do I get makemenu at?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: yeah my bad
[12:22] <Jeaton> i assume it would be with tovid
[12:22] <tiyowan> chilli0: Wait one.
[12:22] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: don't sweat it
[12:22] <quizme> tiyowan: thanks!
[12:22] <chilli0> tiyowan ok thanks
[12:23] <quizme> what's the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu ?
[12:23] <ikonia> quizme: gnome and xfce desktop
[12:23] <tiyowan> !xubuntu | quizme
[12:24] <tiyowan> chilli0: Hmm, I can't find any reports on that model being tested with Intrepid. But you may experience some problems with your headphone jack and wireless card. The wireless issue has a fix; but no luck on the headphone jack issue. Hope this helps.
[12:24] <sinbox> if I want to gt rid of the splash screen on bootup do I need to remove just "splash" from the entry or "ro quiet splash"?
[12:25] <chilli0> tiyowan ok thanks , was the ispration easy?
[12:26] <tiyowan> chilli0: Five days' of tuning. My advice: Be patient with it.
[12:26] <chilli0> tiyowan what did you have issues with?
[12:27] <anhdh> why can't i use flash in firefox 3.04 in hardy??
[12:27] <Roger_> what's that xfce desktop like
[12:27] <solocommand> what is the super button under compizconfig?
[12:28] <tiyowan> chilli0: Well. Hibernation/suspend. Annoying internal speaker beeps. A spot of wireles trouble. And a ATI video problem which is a known bug. But it was *well* worth it, I can say that. :-)
[12:29] <chilli0> tiyowan so the wireless didnt work ?
[12:29] <tiyowan> Roger_: You can install it if you're using Ubuntu. Install the xubuntu-desktop package.
[12:29] <revilodraw> i have 64bit ubuntu, and want flash cos youtube wont work. what do i do?
[12:30] <tiyowan> chilli0: Oh the wireless worked fine. The problem was that everytime I went into suspend, the connection would be lost.  Like I said, just minor annoyances and problems.
[12:31] <chilli0> ah ok
[12:31] <vegombrei> hi whats super ubuntu ??
[12:31] <chilli0> tiyowan was it easy?
[12:31] <Vinceman> in what year can we all play Warcraft II on linux vs. the windows-users?
[12:31] <NEOeclipse> well i got a feeling ubuntu wont install on my laptop
[12:31] <tiyowan> chilli0: Depends, really, on how much experience you have. I'm a computer science graduate, so that helped. :-)
[12:32] <NEOeclipse> sitting for 15 minutes and still no installer screen yet
[12:32] <Vinceman> patience
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: if you connect to public servers and can run warcraft 2, right now
[12:32] <vegombrei> Vinceman: i dont think ever .. they only make games for windows and mac
[12:33] <JokeR-> hello. i have dual boot system with ubuntu 8.10 and win xp. i tried to load ubuntu but it didnt show me a login screen but a black screen where have been written "Login:"
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=412
[12:33] <dlx> problems with your videocrad?
[12:33] <Neaai> JokeR-: did it show the graphical interface when you tried the liveCD, if you tried it ?
[12:34] <laeg> is there anyway to store my ubuntu system on a high performance drive but link some of the media folders in my home dir to a high capacity disk?
[12:34] <JokeR-> Neaai i didnt tried cuz i dont have :)
[12:34] <Neaai> JokeR-: well, the install CD is also a liveCD
[12:34] <dlx> try it ;)
 Vinceman: i dont think ever .. they only make games for windows and mac # ....
[12:34] <solocommand> laeg: you can mount your high cap disk under your home directory
[12:34] <kbrooks> vegombrei, myth.
[12:35] <JokeR-> Neaai i know.. but i have only 6.06 install cd.
[12:35] <Neaai> JokeR-: so how did you install 8.10 ?
[12:35] <Vinceman> I mean, that is the ultimate abstination, that's what it was all about! using linux and not being able to play warcraft II!
[12:35] <chilli0> tiyowan ok thanks i think i may get the ispron
[12:35] <JokeR-> Neaai install 6.06 and then upgraded
[12:35] <Vinceman> I hear TWO people say they only make games for windows and MAC
[12:36] <Vinceman> but warcraft II was the ultimate game
[12:36] <Vinceman> it was the best game ever
[12:36] <laeg> solocommand: so i'd have a dir in home that was the large disk? couldn't i make so that in my home dir whenever i clicked on videos or music etc it would link me there?
[12:36] <Vinceman> hey wait, somebody was quoting someone
[12:36] <solocommand> laeg: probably, just use those folders as the mount point for the disk
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> Vinceman: id software make a tonne of games
[12:36] <laeg> also, you can play war2/3 on ubuntu
[12:36] <JokeR-> Neaai some solution of the problem?
[12:37] <vegombrei> kbrooks: http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=super+ubuntu
[12:37] <laeg> solocommand: ok thanks
[12:37] <Neaai> JokeR-: you have this installation as a desktop? I mean, you use the graphical and the personal part of the software, or is it any server setup ?
[12:37] <merlin0810> good evening all... I have a laptop with a nice fresh install of 8.10 on it. What would be the simplest easiest quickest way of getting a forum running locally on it?
[12:37] <JokeR-> Neaai desktop
[12:37] <kbrooks> vegombrei, What about that?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> merlin0810: apt-cache search forum
[12:38] <|[> hello
[12:38] <gsamsa> my vaio nr21s/s plays sound from headphones and speakers at the same time :s
[12:39] <Neaai> JokeR-: I would try to apt-get install --reinstall   the xserver-xorg* packages that you have already installed. And also the gdm package
[12:39] <merlin0810> ActionParsnip1: thanks for that - but which one out of all those pages of choices would be the easiest?
[12:39] <vegombrei> kbrooks: sorry that was for someone else ... but hey u have any idea what super ubuntu is ?
[12:39] <|[> how to fix the stuck loading on ubuntu?????????????
[12:39] <solocommand> is there a command to reload fusion? changes dont seem to be taking place automatically :/
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> merlin0810: no idea, try a few, see which you find easiest
[12:39] <|[> HxC ]|
[12:39] <jim_p> vegombrei, another ubuntu mod. one more that promises the extra bit the default ubuntu installation lacks. i wont take, thanks
[12:39] <JokeR-> Neaai can u give me the commands because im new in linux
[12:39] <badserii> Hi. I'm running an application with Wine. Unfortunately the executable was deleted, but the application still runs. Is it possible to recover the executable from the operative memory? Thank you in advance!
[12:40] <Neaai> JokeR-: you know what xorg package you were using in the previous installation ?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> |[: edit menu.lst to remove splash screens so you can watch the boot, you could also try booting to root console and reading dmesg
[12:40] <jim_p> |[, what gpu are you on?
[12:40] <urchin> hi
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> badserii: i very much doubt it
[12:40] <JokeR-> Neaai no f*ckin idea
[12:40] <vegombrei> jim_p: :)
[12:40] <gsamsa> my vaio nr21s/s plays sound from headphones and speakers at the same time :s . help me
[12:41] <badserii> ActionParsnip1:  thanks anyway.
[12:41] <kbrooks> !xrandr
[12:41] <urchin> hi
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, yes
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, amazingly
[12:41] <|[> what gpu??im newest user..i dont know about ubuntu
[12:41] <Neaai> JokeR-: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, as for how...
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> gsamsa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=999222
[12:41] <Neaai> JokeR-: can you show here what does that return ?
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, pidof wine
[12:41] <kbrooks> badserii, that returns what?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> gsamsa: the make and model means very little, its the make / model of the soundcard according to lspci that matters
[12:42] <jim_p> |[ graphics card = gpu              and please change your name
[12:42] <vegombrei> jim_p: and its like a 1.5 gig download ....
[12:42] <vegombrei> jim_p: LOL
[12:42] <kbrooks> badserii, and try pidof wineserver as well
[12:43] <kbrooks> badserii, are you there?
[12:43] <badserii> kbrooks: one minute.
[12:43] <jim_p> vegombrei, so? make a mod of your own and make it 4gb putting every single piece of software you consider useful. that is the easy part to do
[12:43] <badserii> kbrooks: the computer is in other room
[12:43] <paez> 1280x800
[12:43] <gsamsa> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[12:43] <solocommand> do you have to use x64 to use more than 3g of ram?
[12:43] <jim_p> paez, no. not resolution, graphics card!
[12:43] <gsamsa> ActionParsnip1:  the link didn't help
[12:44] <Neaai> solocommand: no. As far as I know that limit is 4G
[12:44] <badserii> kbrooks: The problem solved! I had a backup. Thank you all!
[12:44] <jim_p> solocommand, in short yes, but i guess you mean for more that 4GB
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> gsamsa: ok then you can websearch that some with respect to audio coming out of both devices
[12:44] <kbrooks> badserii, can i help though?
[12:44] <vegombrei> jim_p: nah im a noob ... im trying really hard to learn tho
[12:44] <paez> hehe...sori2..model??nvidia GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M
[12:44] <gsamsa> fuck ubuntu, i'm going back to windows!
[12:44] <Neaai> lol
[12:44] <solocommand> weird. well ive got 4g in the box, but both xp vista bsd and ubuntu x32 are seeing only 3g of it
[12:44] <tiyowan> tsk, tsk. No patience at all.
[12:45] <jim_p> solocommand, then you need to go 64 bit
[12:45] <kbrooks> badserii, supposee you have an application open with a file that you deleted. you need to do something like.
[12:45] <paez> good ubuntu, fuck to windows!
[12:45]  * solocommand sighs
[12:45] <tiyowan> !language
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> well that was pretty pathetic
[12:45] <kristian1> dumb question: in the future when i do a refresh install of ubuntu on sda1, should i unmount sdb1 from the directory i have mounted it to before, to keep my data/storage files safe? or does this have nothing to do with each other? just want to make sure i don't lose data on sdb1. then when i have installed ubuntu on sda1 i will just mount it again, and my data should be untouched.
[12:45] <Neaai> it's the education era of "I want all to be ready made for me while I take my time to jack off"
[12:45] <kbrooks> badserii, pidof <app> or ps aux | grep app
[12:45] <Slart> solocommand: it's a 32-bit thing..
[12:45] <magical> hi, if I use envy to install the nvidia driver on gutsy, will that install the newest available release from the nvidia site?
[12:46] <Slart> solocommand: you need to either use PAE (which I think is kind of slow) or go 64bit
[12:46] <badserii> kbrooks: thanks for hint. One more lesson for me!
[12:46] <Slart> magical: I think it will install the one that envy-ng was release with
[12:46] <kbrooks> badserii, now, (the pid for the latter command is the 1st number) you need to go to /proc/<pid>/
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> magical: it'll install the newet envy driver, you will also have to upgrade the envy driver if you upgrade your kernel
[12:46] <gizmo_> hello
[12:46] <paez> ubuntu 8.10 LTS stuck when loading??how to fix it??
[12:46] <JokeR-> Neaai i need to boot linux. w8
[12:46] <jim_p> paez, cant you access the os?
[12:47] <solocommand> Slart: Thanks
[12:47] <bastid_raZor> kristian1; you wouldn't need to unmount it, your other partitions would be untouched unless you specify otherwise in the install
[12:47] <toxicvomit> the visual effects stopped working!!! help what do i do
[12:47] <tiyowan> paez: More specifics please. Where does it hang? On the splash screen?
[12:47] <magical> ActionParsnip1, is that the newest nvidia one though? I have to use envy legacy because i'm using gutsy, which is quite an old release, so i don't wanna use it if it'll install the driver that was current when envy legacy came out
[12:47] <kbrooks> badserii, then to task/<pid>/fd
[12:47] <paez> yes...it must enter any key to continue
[12:47] <kbrooks> badserii, ls -l in there
[12:47] <NEOeclipse> geez i might just have to take a nap while waiting on this install, lol
[12:47] <kristian1> bastid_raZor : ok, that's what i thought, but i had to make sure. :-) thanks! :-)
[12:47] <paez> yup..on splash screen
[12:48] <jim_p> paez, at a terminal type           lspci | grep VGA
[12:48] <casper_> does anyone know how to fix my video card? i shut ubuntu 8.10 down before proper closing down
[12:48] <tiyowan> paez: Tried booting into recovery mode?
[12:48] <kbrooks> badserii, notice thaat there are symbolic links that refer to the actual file. the trick here is that these links ARE the actual file
[12:48] <casper_> i get messages like, [ fglrx ] Reserved FB block: Unshared offset: ff7300, size: 88000
[12:48] <jim_p> casper_, what gpu is it?
[12:48] <casper_> radeon 2400hd
[12:48] <toxicvomit> it was working fine the last time, today when i started my pc i noticed that the visual effects where turned off, so i try to turn them on again, it says "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[12:48] <paez> yup...
[12:48] <casper_> it worked just 2 days ago
[12:48] <jim_p> casper_, ati + fglrx ?
[12:48] <badserii> kbrooks: yes, I see!
[12:48] <Slart> magical: I'm not sure you should be using the old envy.. it was kind of bad.. could mess up your entire system and so on
[12:48] <kbrooks> badserii, so you can do something like cat number > /original/path/
[12:49] <odog777> whats up
[12:49] <solocommand> toxicvomit: restart? check video driver?
[12:49] <kbrooks> badserii, and you've just recovered the file from app memory!
[12:49] <odog777> is there anything going down in her?
[12:49] <toxicvomit> i tried restarting
[12:49] <odog777> here
[12:49] <toxicvomit> how do i
[12:49] <jim_p> casper_, i get similar messages in dmesg, but it does boot for me
[12:49] <casper_> jim_p, i first see xfce panel for 1 second, after that its just the backdrop and the mouse
[12:49] <toxicvomit> check video driver
[12:49] <casper_> ok
[12:49] <badserii> kbrooks: It works like magic! Thank you!!!!
[12:49] <Slart> toxicvomit: check this website.. download the compiz-check script and run it.. it might tell you what's wrong http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[12:49] <paez> its the same in recovery mode..must press any key to continue
[12:49] <toxicvomit> k
[12:49] <jim_p> casper_, how did you install fglrx?
[12:50] <toxicvomit> i'll try that
[12:50] <casper_> just via the graphical interface with the 'restricted drivers' window
[12:50] <tiyowan> paez: Really dumb question. It still remains hanged when you press any key to coninue right?
[12:50] <ronj> hello
[12:50] <Piet> hi
[12:50] <casper_> it worked yesterday, then i had to shut it down jim_p
[12:50] <casper_> also
[12:50] <casper_> it might be handy to know
[12:50] <casper_> i first tried to run dosbox fullscreen
[12:50] <rww> !enter | casper_
[12:50] <casper_> while i was connected to my laptop with synergy
[12:50]  * vegombrei has successfully connected his bluetooth headphones with his desktop via a usb bluetooth dongle thing .. believe it or not its quite a bitch to configure send sound to the headphones and back to speakers .. so if anyone needs help withg that lemme know
[12:51] <paez> yup...8.04 more better than 8.10
[12:51] <rdw200169> paez: did you try ctrl+alt+f8 to see the kernel and init messages?
[12:51] <jim_p> casper_, dosbox? the msdos emulator thing?
[12:51] <odie5533> How do I find differences in a binary file?
[12:51] <aprilhare> paex: how so?
[12:51] <bastid_raZor> odie5533; you could try diff file1 file2
[12:51] <Slart> odie5533: not sure if diff will handle binary.. I think it does
[12:52] <Slart> odie5533: or you could make a hex dump with "hex" and diff that instead
[12:52] <paez> no
[12:52] <casper_> jim_p, yes. but it went fullscreen in 640x480 - i didn't see it untill i moved with my mouse to left top corner.
[12:52] <allsystemsarego> odie5533, xdelta or vbindiff
[12:52] <ronj> I'm looking for a simple mailing application to send customized mails. input = a mail, a list of {name,mail}. output= sending the mail to the mails, with a customized header like "Hello <NAME>,...". any suggestion?
[12:52] <tiyowan> Could someone take a look into paez's problem?
[12:52] <dns53> ronj sendmail
[12:52] <ronj> dns53, thanks, looking at it
[12:53] <Neaai> dns53: are you sure he needs a full fledged mta ?
[12:53] <Neaai> that's sort of overkill
[12:53] <paez> no...im do it with myself..
[12:53] <dns53> yes he does, but once setup it is what he needs
[12:53] <paez> my brother is not here
[12:53] <paez> everything he can help me
[12:54] <Neaai> dns53: ronj: then stay away from sendmail. Use any other mta (exim, postfix) but sendmail
[12:54] <ronj> indeed, I have no big needs. just publicizing a personal project to friends/colleagues
[12:54] <casper_> jim_p, that was when i did a ctrl+alt+bksp first
[12:54] <ronj> approx 500persons
[12:54] <ronj> one mail
[12:54] <jim_p> casper_, do you get to a login prompt? or everything stops at the errors?
[12:54] <paez> i love ubuntu...maybe i will back into 8.04
[12:54] <dns53> fair enough, i have not configured it but you will need a mta
[12:54] <tiyowan> paez: Can you press Alt-F1 to get into a terminal from the hung splash screen?
[12:55] <keres> for some reason i cannot open files i have downloaded from my desktop
[12:55] <yeryry> is there some nice shell way of moving/deleting/etc files based on size?
[12:55] <keres> it always says they are missing, but they really aren't
[12:55] <jim_p> keres, what type of files?
[12:55] <paez> no
[12:55] <tiyowan> keres: What type of files?
[12:55] <JasonosaJ> keres, check them in the shell
[12:55] <keres> Jasonosa: i did check them in the shell
[12:55] <tiyowan> paez: Hmm. What video card do you have?
[12:55] <keres> that's how i figured out they were messing up
[12:55] <jim_p> yeryry, you can ls them by size
[12:56] <JokeR-> Neaai it wrote me back "/etc/x11/xorg.conf/ no such file or directory
[12:56] <vegombrei> paez: how are you chatting with us ?
[12:56] <dns53> yeryry find path -msize size  -exec mv {} dest \;
[12:56] <jim_p> vegombrei, nice thought :P
[12:56] <JokeR-> I'm with ubuntu 8.10 and i cant get to login screen
[12:56] <paez> fine..hehehe...but have a problem
[12:56] <casper_> jim_p, no, i do get a gdm, but i have autologin on since it's my "PC". i don't see the msgs normally, only when i go to alt+f1 and read logs. what i do get when i login: first it seems to init nicely with xfce-panel coming up, then after a few seconds - it can't show nothing more than the backdrop and, the mouse cursor. cursor does move with my mouse but that's it.
[12:56] <keres> these files appear on my desktop, but when i try to perform an action with them it always says 'error: file does not exist'
[12:57] <Neaai> JokeR-: hmmm. In a graphical setup there has to be  a  /etc/x11/xorg.conf  as it's the X system configuration file.
[12:57] <tiyowan> keres: What type of files are they? Names?
[12:57] <yeryry> dns53: thanks.. I was expecting to need to use grep or something, but that's better
[12:57] <JokeR-> Neaai :| dont know..
[12:57] <Kate4382> Hello , how i can increase the size of the swap memory ?
[12:57] <JokeR-> this is what it wrote
[12:57] <paez> nvidia GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M
[12:57] <Slart> !swap | Kate4382
[12:57] <jim_p> casper_, is your xfce session thingy set to store sessions on logout/reboot/shutdown?
[12:57] <bastid_raZor> Neaai; JokeR-  the X is case sensitive /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <keres> tiyowan: 'UrbanTerror_41_FULL.zip' and 'map-q2wdm3-b2.pak'
[12:57] <onats> yay! was able to install on my P5Q motherboard
[12:57] <Neaai> JokeR-: you're on the same machine now that you're describing  but using windows ?
[12:57] <casper_> jim_p, yes maybe
[12:57] <paez> i used the compaq f731au
[12:57] <JokeR-> Neaai yes
[12:57] <onats> video's flickering a lot though, and no HDMI sound
[12:58] <jim_p> casper_, its a small tick box in the shutdown options
[12:58] <casper_> jim_p, can i remove that option from console i'd like to try it :)
[12:58] <Neaai> JokeR-: tough. So you have to reboot twice for any checks ?
[12:58] <JokeR-> bastid_raZor :) wrote it whit small letter
[12:58] <JokeR-> Neaai f*ck yep
[12:58] <jim_p> casper_, then it tries to revert the previous session and it fails
[12:58] <allsystemsarego> keres, try deleting them from gksu nautilus
[12:58] <Neaai> JokeR-: You have to follow the capitalisation to the letter actually.   /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[12:58] <jim_p> casper_, you said you have autologin?
[12:58] <Neaai> JokeR-: exactly like that
[12:58] <casper_> jim_p, by the way there is no dosbox running.
[12:59] <keres> allsystemsarego: gksudo rm ~/Desktop/map-q2wdm3-b2.pak' ?
[12:59] <JokeR-> Neaai wrote it that way
[12:59] <jim_p> casper_, you said you have autologin?
[12:59] <JokeR-> bastid_raZor how it should be written X11 or x11
[12:59] <Neaai> JokeR-: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver                     Exactly like this right ?
[12:59] <allsystemsarego> keres, if you want CLI then sudo
[12:59] <ronj> Neaai, dns53, indeed, both sendmail and exim are far beyond my needs. actually what I need is something similar to the Outlook mailing assistant. provides you a double column table to fill, you insert customized fields in the message body, and voila. I'm not willing to install and configure a full blown MTA
[12:59] <d_mitry> in 8.10, i cannot find linux-ubuntu-modules for the kernel version i'm using (2.6.25-2-386). i need the package so that i have the sound modules. what to do?
[12:59] <JokeR-> Neaai whit small x
[12:59] <casper_> jim_p, correct. i don't see anything and i don't get menu. so can't tick the session box i can only shutdown etc via console :(
[12:59] <JokeR-> x11
[12:59] <Neaai> JokeR-: wrong there
[12:59] <jim_p> casper_, an idea banged on my head!
[12:59] <paez> when i install ubuntu tweak and disable show desktop icon..right clik on mouse not function...what damn??
[12:59] <allsystemsarego> keres, specify full path /home/keres/Desktop...
[13:00] <casper_> jim_p, tell me :D
[13:00] <jim_p> casper_, can you find some prompt?
[13:00] <JokeR-> Neaai f*ck.. i will try again
[13:00] <Neaai> lol
[13:00] <jim_p> casper_, alt+f5 anything
[13:00] <InitMass> the update of firefox today destroyed my booksmarks and i can no longer start firefox as a user. for now i don't have the time to care about being able to run firefox but my bookmarks... is there a way to restore them?
[13:00] <gizmo_> how to change ident using Xchat
[13:00] <gizmo_> im new using ubuntu
[13:00] <dns53> ronj thunderbird and evolution can do this
[13:00] <casper_> jim_p, by the way session 'saveonexit' is off (in .config/xfce4-session)
[13:00] <Neaai> JokeR-: you better try get to another machine to connect here and keep that setup in ubuntu so you can check
[13:00] <casper_> jim_p, ok i'm ready
[13:01] <jrib> InitMass: check ~/.mozilla/
[13:01] <dns53> gizmo_ type /nick new nick
[13:01] <jim_p> casper_, login with your usename and pass
[13:01] <keres> allsystemsarego: http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotii0.png
[13:01] <casper_> jim_p, by the way i'm chatting on my laptop so the chat doesn't bother me.
[13:01] <casper_> jim_p, yes done
[13:01] <jim_p> casper_, sudo nano /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[13:01] <ronj> dns53, you bet, I didn't try and just assumed it doesn't exist. thanks
[13:01] <jrib> d_mitry: why do you believe you need that package and not one by a different name?
[13:01] <omzig> can anyone help me how to change ident using Xchat irc
[13:01] <Neaai> ronj: I believe Evolution Mail can do that much the same way Outlook/OE does. With lists and all
[13:01] <jim_p> casper_, there is a setting about autologin and it has enable next to it
[13:02] <jim_p> omzig, ident = user info and the like?
[13:02] <casper_> jim_p, it's off here the file says AutomaticLoginEnable=False (????)
[13:02] <dr_willis> Under Linux you would have to install an identd server omzig  i belive...
[13:02] <jim_p> casper_, AutomaticLoginEnable=true        make it                 AutomaticLoginEnable=false
[13:03] <keres> can someone help me with this: http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotii0.png
[13:03] <dr_willis> omzig,  most irc servers dont need identd , its considered a bit useless, and a security risk
[13:03] <allsystemsarego> keres, use sudo instead of gksudo
[13:03] <keres> allsystemsarego: same result
[13:03] <jim_p> casper_, it was saying false?!
[13:03] <casper_> yes jim_p :S
[13:03] <d_mitry> jrib: because of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Basic%20Troubleshooting%20Steps i guess it hasn't been updated for 8.10, though.
[13:03] <NEOeclipse> ok anyone recommend a different version of ubuntu ?
[13:03] <jim_p> casper_, let me think
[13:03] <jrib> keres: then there's no file named that in your Desktop
[13:04] <NEOeclipse> since 8.10 desktop wont install
[13:04] <jrib> keres: the first command already deleted it probably
[13:04] <tiyowan> allsystemsarego: Possible ask keres to run fsck?
[13:04] <bvalek2> NEOeclipse: 8.04
[13:04] <keres> jrib: it is still on my desktop
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> NEOeclipse: have you tried some boot options?
[13:04] <jrib> keres: pastebin: ls ~/Desktop/
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | NEOeclipse
[13:04] <allsystemsarego> keres, tiyowan, I'd say log off and back on
[13:04] <bastid_raZor> keres; when in cli and something works it doesn't give an output it returns you to the prompt, you only get a message when something doesn't do as planned/commaned
[13:04] <jim_p> casper_, but you DO have autologin?! is then gdm what you really use?
[13:04] <NEOeclipse> ActionParsnip1: ummm no havent
[13:04] <Slart> keres: can you do a ls -l ~/Desktop/
[13:04] <jim_p> casper_, it could be kdm
[13:05] <NEOeclipse> ActionParsnip1: ill check the link out
[13:05] <keres> Slart: -l?
[13:05] <InitMass> jrib, there are bookmarks in the .mozilla dir but only the "default" ones
[13:05] <Slart> keres: long display format.. more info
[13:05] <JokeR-> Neaai here again
[13:05] <jim_p> keres, partially downloaded file
[13:05] <keres> Slart: 'sudo -l ~/Desktop'??
[13:05] <casper_> jim_p, no, i installed using xubuntu btw.
[13:05] <jrib> InitMass: you checked ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default ?
[13:05] <tiyowan> keres: Run the command "ls -l ~/Desktop" and pastebin.
[13:05] <Neaai> JokeR-: and ?
[13:05] <keres> jim_p: fully downloaded. it says finished downloading on both files in firefox
[13:05] <allsystemsarego> keres I initially suggested Alt-F2 "gksu nautilus" then do it via GUI
[13:06] <InitMass> jrib, yes
[13:06] <InitMass> jrgp, only the default ones left
[13:06] <jim_p> keres, run an md5sum on it if possible
[13:06] <jrib> d_mitry: it's probably linux-restricted-modules now
[13:06] <Slart> keres: no..  "ls -l ~/Desktop/" just like that.. no sudo, no gksudo etc..
[13:06] <keres> the output for: sudo ls -l ~/Desktop: http://pastebin.com/m164c735c
[13:06] <casper_> jim_p, but the first option or so is called AutomaticLoginEnable and that is False. secondly there's AutomaticLogin and that is empty.
[13:06] <keres> Slart: does it matter with the ~ folders?
[13:06] <NEOeclipse> lol ok i have no idea what i should do for boot options
[13:07] <jrib> InitMass: then they're gone.  Use grep to search for some url you know you would have in there in the whole ~/.mozilla/ directory if you want
[13:07] <keres> should i try logging in/out
[13:07] <tiyowan> keres: Good. I'd try logging in/out.
[13:07] <Slart> keres: ~ means your home folder.. it wont work without it.. you can substitute it for /home/<yourusername>/ if you want
[13:07] <Neaai> keres: seems there's no such file indeed on your Desktop
[13:07] <jim_p> casper_, the Automaticlogin= option states the username that is supposed to autologin to
[13:07] <d_mitry> jrib: alright. thanks.
[13:07] <jim_p> casper_, for me its AutomaticLogin=jim
[13:08] <tiyowan> !pm | Sw33ty_9iR7
[13:08] <casper_> that's damn weird jim_p because i'm very sure that i DO autologin everytime i get to the greeter screen.
[13:08] <keres> ok, the files are gone.
[13:08] <keres> but why were they screwing up in the first place?
[13:08] <tiyowan> keres: Partial download?
[13:08] <jim_p> casper_, and you are sure you use gdm?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> !autologin
[13:08] <keres> tiyowan: full download. firefox says they are complete/
[13:08] <Cakarakoo> HI, where can I get help on how configuring a Router to set it to bridge mode? I tried in #networking but the only response I got was: "Nobody is gonna help you XD", thanks
[13:09] <jim_p> keres, is it possible to run an md5sum on the file?
[13:09] <JonathanEllis> Hi. How can I get a list of installed packages which have either java6 or openjdk in the package names? I think I need to use dpkg --get-selections > installed-software and pipe it into grep but I am not sure. I would be grateful if someone could help. Thanks
[13:09] <jim_p> keres, you may be also running out of space
[13:09] <keres> tiyowan: i also had a .deb i downloaded and installed yesterday that was deleted under re-login
[13:09] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: there's a brideutils involved I think
[13:09] <casper_> jim_p, i did really not change anything from the default install of xubuntu as far as i know. maybe i did change the theme but really that's it.
[13:09] <keres> jim_p: 60gb free.
[13:09] <keres> lmao
[13:09] <jim_p> JonathanEllis, dpkg -l | grep java
[13:09] <jrib> keres: you're being too vague
[13:09] <Neaai> cak054: s/brideutils/bridgeutils
[13:10] <allsystemsarego> JonathanD, dpkg --get-selections | egrep 'java6|openjdk'
[13:10] <tiyowan> keres: Hmm. I wouldn't worry about it, unless this keeps happening again and again.
[13:10] <keres> jrib: i have an 80gb HDD, 60gb are free
[13:10] <Stephen|Edibles> Hi there. Using Ubuntu 8.10, pretty new to linux. Until last night everything was working fine. Woke up this morning, and there's no sound. There's sound at the login screen, but when I am logged in nada. Any ideas?
[13:10] <Slart> keres: try restarting nautilus "pkill nautilus; nautilus&"
[13:10] <Slart> keres: see if the file is still there
[13:10] <jrib> keres: not about that.  About the issues you are having
[13:10] <Cakarakoo> Neaai, brideutils?
[13:10] <keres> jrib: they are really vague to me too.
[13:10] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: : s/brideutils/bridgeutils
[13:10] <jim_p> casper_, can i pm you in a sec?
[13:10] <keres> jrib: i can't really describe them well.
[13:10] <solocommand> weird, compiz-config wont let me have more than one desktop. unless i compiz --reload, but then it disables all the visual effects :/
[13:11] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: let me see exactly the name. there might be a hyphen too there
[13:11] <tiyowan> solocommand: Try compiz --replace?
[13:11] <keres> Slart: they aren't there
[13:11] <solocommand> er yeah i meant replace not reload
[13:11] <sander_m> Hello. A quick question: I have a laptop with Vista home. Can the ubunti 8.10 installer resize the Vista partition or not? I know that with 8.04 it was recommended to use Vista's own partition tool.
[13:11] <keres> Slart: neither are my files i didn't try deleting
[13:11] <tiyowan> solocommand: Do you have compiz fusion icon on your tray?
[13:11] <JonathanEllis> jim_p and allsystemsarego: Thanks
[13:12] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: you might want to install bridge-utils with:  sudo apt-get install bridge-utils
[13:12] <solocommand> tiyowan: no i dont
[13:12] <jim_p> you are welcome JonathanEllis
[13:12] <Cakarakoo> Neaai, yeah I founf bridge utils, but it doesn't seem hwat I am looking for; I have DSL Router that I want to set in bridge mode to forwar our WAN static IP to our Lynkyss router
[13:12] <keres> if it happens again, i'll come back :)
[13:12] <war10ck> hello
[13:12] <tiyowan> solocommand: I'd recommend you install and select Compiz as your windows manager from there. Wild guess, but it might fix it.
[13:12] <allsystemsarego> keres, should've gone the "gksu nautilus" way as suggested
[13:13] <tiyowan> solocommand: install the compiz-fusion package that is.
[13:13] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: the dsl router you speak about is the intended ubuntu installation ?
[13:13] <keres> allsystemsarego: gksudo nautilus and search for it?
[13:13] <JokeR-> Neaai http://i42.tinypic.com/300qjkm.jpg
[13:13] <keres> allsystemsarego: i did
[13:13] <allsystemsarego> keres, yes, and graphically navigate to it
[13:13] <JokeR-> Neaai this is what its shows me at the beggining
[13:14] <JokeR-> Neaai http://i41.tinypic.com/1412gb7.jpg and this one when i wrote what did u tell me
[13:14] <war10ck> do you chat with xchat?
[13:14] <keres> allsystemsarego: i did. nothing happened.
[13:14] <Vinceman> most people in California are sleeping now
[13:15] <war10ck> 1344 people in this #!!!
[13:15] <Neaai> JokeR-: so you use the fglrx module. You have an ati video card ?
[13:15] <Appiah> ?
[13:15] <dr_willis> war10ck,  and its a slow day
[13:15] <JokeR-> Neaai yes radeon saphire
[13:15] <omzig> i want to ask why i cant install mirc in ubuntu 8.10?
[13:15] <allsystemsarego> keres, rm is a very powerful command, you should exercise extreme caution when using it
[13:15] <Slart> omzig: ask the author.. he didn't make a linux version
[13:15] <war10ck> apt-get install mirc
[13:15] <solocommand> same deal tiyo, selecting compiz from the fusion icon wont let me use more than one row of desktops, reloading it allows it but disables all effects. :/
[13:16] <Slart> omzig: you can install it using wine if you want
[13:16] <meganox> omzig: mirc is wondows software
[13:16] <omzig> slart how?
[13:16] <allsystemsarego> keres right-clicking in nautilus and deleting is the safer way
[13:16] <tiyowan> omzig: Because the mIRC developers didn't make a linux version yet.
[13:16] <omzig> owhk..
[13:16] <war10ck> omzig : apt-get install mirc
[13:16] <Stephen|Edibles>  Hi there. Using Ubuntu 8.10, pretty new to linux. Until last night everything was working fine. Woke up this morning, and there's no sound. There's sound at the login screen, but when I am logged in nothing. Any ideas?
[13:16] <omzig> how about window live messenger?
[13:16] <war10ck> but xchat is better!
[13:16] <Slart> war10ck: what's that supposed to do?
[13:16] <omzig> apt-get install mirc
[13:16] <JokeR-> Neaai so?
[13:16] <Cakarakoo> Neaai, the DSL router is provided by our ISP provider; We have static IP, and it is working properly, however we have another router (Lynksys) that we want to set up in order to get the WAN IP (as if the first router was working in brige mode)
[13:16] <keres> allsystemsarego: i couldn't delete in nautilus. the file did not show up.
[13:16] <ronj> dns53, Neaai, I can't find this feature in Evolution or Thunderbird. Openoffice Writer has a "Mail Merge Wizard" which may be what I want. trying it.
[13:17] <Stephen|Edibles> omzig, : Why do you want all the windows programs?
[13:17] <Slart> omzig: one piece of advice.. if it has "windows" in the name it probable won't run on linux
[13:17] <war10ck> i speak german
[13:17] <war10ck> not good english
[13:17] <Slart> omzig: same goes for "microsoft"
[13:17] <meganox> omzig: pidgin allows you to chat on msn
[13:17] <omzig> owhk...
[13:17] <omzig> sorry
[13:17] <tiyowan> irssi + bitlbee. Covers everything I think.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> Slart: microsoft office 97 runs great in wine ;)
[13:17] <Neaai> JokeR-: I'd think you try to reinstall the  xserver-xorg-video-radeon package. You could do it with the command:   sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[13:17] <omzig> slart Xchat can i on bnc?
[13:17] <war10ck> i want to change to the IRCnet server
[13:17] <allsystemsarego> keres, when that happens again you know what to do: log of/on
[13:17] <dns53> ronj yes that is what you want
[13:18] <omzig> i mean in Xchat can run bnc?
[13:18] <Slart> ActionParsnip1: hehe..
[13:18] <Neaai> JokeR-: always, capitalisation matters
[13:18] <keres> allsystemsarego: i did log off/in, and the files dissappeared
[13:18] <Slart> omzig: bnc?
[13:18] <war10ck> wnt you the same, omzig
[13:18] <war10ck> want
[13:18] <omzig> linux cant run psybnc?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> !info bnc
[13:18] <JokeR-> Neaai thank u man.. i will try
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> !find bnc
[13:18] <omzig> because in Xchat i cant find how to change ident and port..
[13:19] <war10ck> ident?
[13:19] <war10ck> alt - edit options
[13:19] <Slart> omzig: I don't think xchat comes with an ident server
[13:19] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: so summed up, you want to switch the actual router that has the public ip and is currently doilg NAT, with another dsl router that you have in bridge mode and thus get the public ip directly to the ubuntu box. Am I wrong ?
[13:19] <omzig> slart : so i cant runing my bnc account using ubuntu?
[13:19] <sinbox> war10ck, Xchat menu > Network List then select the network you want IRCnet or whatnot
[13:19] <war10ck> id
[13:20] <randomnick93485> when the system booting, who sets the locale languages? any rc.d script? somehow my machine is using posix and "dpkg-reconfigure locales" is not working (machine is still using posix). but since its boot is very odd, maybe I'm not running something important first
[13:20] <Neaai> Cakarakoo: doing*
[13:20] <war10ck> k you sinbox
[13:20] <Slart> omzig: unless you haven't noticed.. none of us here know what bnc is..
[13:20] <war10ck> thank
[13:20] <Pici> omzig: There are a few bnc packages in the repositories, check your favorite package manager.
[13:20] <tiyowan> bnc?
[13:20] <omzig> psybnc
[13:20] <war10ck> cu
[13:20] <jrib> randomnick93485: checked /etc/environment?
[13:20] <war10ck> byer
[13:20] <war10ck> bey
[13:21] <war10ck> bye
[13:21] <omzig> reporities?
[13:21]  * tiyowan sighs.
[13:21] <omzig> huh..
[13:21] <omzig> am irssi availble here?
[13:21] <Pici> !software | omzig
[13:21] <randomnick93485> jrib: it exists and has the right languages. but who reads this script?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> !info irssi | omzig
[13:21] <jrib> randomnick93485: grep -R /etc/environment /etc/init.d
[13:21] <Pici> omzig: Please read the first message from ubottu, regarding installing software
[13:21] <omzig> availble  irssi?
[13:22] <omzig> pici im not good in english
[13:22] <Pici> omzig: read this please: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[13:22] <Stephen|Edibles>  Hi there. Using Ubuntu 8.10, pretty new to linux. Until last night everything was working fine. Woke up this morning, and there's no sound. There's sound at the login screen, but when I am logged in nothing. Any ideas?
[13:22] <meganox> omzig: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/  <--good intro to uuntu
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> !irssi > omzig
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> omzig: sudo apt-get install irssi
[13:23] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: might seem like a dumb suggestion but have you checked all the volume sliders?
[13:23] <|GaiJin|> anyone that can think of a reason why i can't enter a windows machine from my linuxbox over a network???
[13:23] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Okay. Volume's up right?
[13:23] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart: Yup, been over every slider I can find, everythings up.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> |GaiJin|: how do you mean, "enter" ?
[13:24] <Stephen|Edibles> It was working like last night. All I have done between then and now is logout, login and add 5 booksmarks to firefox ¬_¬.
[13:24] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: see if it happens with a fresh new user
[13:24] <Slart> |GaiJin|: "enter a windows machine"?.. you mean connect to a shared folder? login using some kind of remote desktop? check the website on it??
[13:24] <tiyowan> |GaiJin|: Please provide more details.
[13:24] <randomnick93485> jrib: keymap.sh and console-screen.sh, but nothing in my /etc/rc*.d calls them
[13:24] <omzig> owhh like that to get software
[13:24] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: it seems like such a cheap solution but have you tried restarting?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> omzig: easiest way
[13:24] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Close firefox and test for sound?
[13:24] <|GaiJin|> when i list the shares from the hostname using smbclient, i can view them, but i am not able to see the computer in the windows network thingy gnome has
[13:24] <omzig> can i get mirc to actionparsnip?
[13:25] <Neaai> omzig: if you install WINE you could then install mirc in ubuntu
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> |GaiJin|: try typing: smb://<windows host name> in the address bar of yur file browser
[13:25] <jrib> randomnick93485: really?  Not even in /etc/rcS.d/ ?
[13:25] <omzig> how to install wine
[13:25] <tiyowan> omzig: sudo apt-get install wine
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> omzig: thats a windows program, you can run it via wine but its pointless
[13:25] <JokeR-> Neaai the same sh*t...
[13:25] <Pici> omzig: Use Applications>Add/Remove Software for user friendly way to install software.
[13:25] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart: just created a new user, will logout/login in a sec to see if its back.
[13:25] <tiyowan> omzig: It is *better* if you install xchat and use that. Much better.
[13:26] <Stephen|Edibles> Tiyowin: You mean through System->Preferences->Sound
[13:26] <randomnick93485> jrib: oops, I have just looked the rc-number-.d. thanks
[13:26] <Stephen|Edibles> *?
[13:26] <|GaiJin|> that worked... why can't i find it in the network??
[13:26] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: if that doesn't work we'll check your pulseaudio settings and such
[13:26] <omzig> yeah i abort already
[13:26] <ejnapolinario><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:26] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Yeah,  but try Slart's idea first.
[13:26] <omzig> how to open the file we d/l in terminal?
[13:26] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart, tiyowan : Okay, brb
[13:26] <Pici> omzig: What file?
[13:26] <|GaiJin|> thanks though
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> |GaiJin|: no idea, if you drag the share to your fave places to the left you will have easier access is
[13:27] <omzig> irssi after i get irssi ...
[13:27] <omzig> at terminal
[13:27] <JokeR-> Neaai what should i do now?
[13:27] <Pici> omzig: that command downloads and installs it.  Just type irssi to start it.
[13:28] <omzig> how to change ident using irssi?
[13:28] <sinbox> omzig you could see if you can get identd installed that ought to work with psybnc on ubuntu but you might have to build the latter
[13:28] <tiyowan> omzig: What is your native language, btw?
[13:28] <Pici> omzig: Install an ident server.
[13:28] <omzig> im malay...
[13:28] <omzig> getting fun usin ubuntu..
[13:28] <jrib> randomnick93485: note that's just where I see /etc/environment, I have no idea if that's the cause of your problem
[13:29] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart, tiyowan : Far as I can see, no sound in new user. Tried 'test' in the sound options, it claimed to be 'testing' but I heard naught, and tried a few websites but no sound.
[13:29] <Neaai> JokeR-: I usually suggest fresh install over upgrades when it comes to desktop systems. Some say if you want to upgdade from release 1 to release 3 for eg, you must go the way 1 -> 2 and then 2 -> 3   Yet, it's much easier if you bachup somewhere your /home/username/  folder (and all the other folders where you have stored your data), do a fresh install, and then restore the folder(s) again.
[13:29] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Closed firefox while you're testing?
[13:29] <omzig> pici what how to get server ident?
[13:29] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, : Aye.
[13:29] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: how did you create the new user?
[13:30] <Stephen|Edibles> jrib, : Just through adduser
[13:30] <Neaai> JokeR-: the time it takes and the ease of doing that, in most cases, surpasses the upgrade process.
[13:30] <randomnick93485> jrib: another system admin disabled rcS.d.... I have just talked to him now
[13:30] <Pici> omzig: Install an ident server. There are a few packages in the repositories, I have no experience with any of them.
[13:30] <jrib> randomnick93485: ah
[13:30] <randomnick93485> jrib: he thought it was useless
[13:30] <randomnick93485> jrib for the way we ust the machine
[13:31] <Pici> !software > omzig
[13:31] <randomnick93485> jrib: but thanks anyway. time to reboot now
[13:31] <tiyowan> omzig: http://ubuntu.com.my/ <- Check this out.
[13:31] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: ok.. what settings are you using in system, preferences, sound? alsa? pulseaudio? auto?
[13:32] <DarkKnight> hey i used aptoncd to install packages to some systems which didnt have net connection....but the thing is that in synaptic i have to select the 153 packages i got installed so that i can update the database....is it not possible that the database gets updated on its own
[13:32] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart: Originally had them all to auto; tried changing them to ALSA but nothing happened.
[13:32] <Jeaton> where do I get makedvd, makexml, and makemenu at?
[13:33] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart: Havent tried pulseradio, whatever that may be
[13:33] <omzig> is that good for linux install wine?
[13:33] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: try typing killall pulseaudio from a terminal and retesting?
[13:33] <sinbox> !my > omzig
[13:33] <Neaai> omzig: wine is something that acts as an emulator for windows programs.
[13:33] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, : No process killed
[13:33] <Slart> Stephen|Edibles: pulseAUDIO.. it's an audio mixer thingy.. for playing audio from several sources at once (amongst other things)
[13:34] <Stephen|Edibles> Whoopsie, mitstyped the terminal command too then >_<
[13:34] <omzig> for you is that good?
[13:34] <tiyowan> omzig: http://ubuntu.com.my/ is the website of your local LoCo team in Malaysia. The forums there are quite active. Might be worth checking out for support. :)
[13:34] <Stephen|Edibles> Slart, tiyowan : No, still no process killed by killall pulseaudio
[13:34] <Neaai> omzig: you won't get hurt if you install it, but in general, native linux apps are recomended over windows apps under wine. Unless you have no other option or specific requirements.
[13:34] <DarkKnight> hey i used aptoncd to install packages to some systems which didnt have net connection....but the thing is that in synaptic i have to select the 153 packages i got installed so that i can update the database....is it not possible that the database gets updated on its own
[13:35] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Let me dig up the forums to see if I get something. What's your hardware?
[13:35] <axisys> wow! 51 new updates ?
[13:35] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, : And at this point my mind goes utterly blank. Does ubuntu have a nice way of finding out hardware, or should I just boot back into windows?
[13:35] <remoteCTR1> anyone know how to solve this, when trying to ssh -X:  X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[13:35] <remoteCTR1> Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[13:36] <Feeernando> a
[13:36] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: lspci
[13:36] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: ps -ef | grep pulse
[13:36] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: lspci command. Check to see if it picks up your sound card.
[13:37] <suriro> how can I set AltGr key to act like Alt?
[13:37] <jrib> tiyowan: he says he has sound at gdm, so I don't think it's hardware related
[13:37] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: hey dude, there?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTRsup bro
[13:37] <remoteCTR1> ayeah:)
[13:38] <tiyowan> jrib: Correct. Any ideas? I found two threads on the forums, but they're unresolved.
[13:38] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: i got this annoying ssh -X error telling me X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[13:38] <remoteCTR1> Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0 any ideas on that?
[13:38] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: the easiest test to do:  add another user to your system and see if you have sound when you logon as that new user.
[13:38] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: x11 forwarding is set to yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config...
[13:38] <DarkKnight> hey i used aptoncd to install packages to some systems which didnt have net connection....but the thing is that in synaptic i have to select the 153 packages i got installed so that i can update the database....is it not possible that the database gets updated on its own
[13:38] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, Neaai , jrib : 05:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[13:38] <tiyowan> Neaai: He tried that already. No go.
[13:38] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: also, have you rebooted since this first happened and did it happen right away again?  ie no sound on login?
[13:39] <Stephen|Edibles> jrib, : Have rebooted, I get a sound as the login screen appears but no sounds once logged in
[13:39] <jrib> Stephen|Edibles: pastebin: ps -ef | grep pulse
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config not sshd_config
[13:40] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Uh-oh. The threads I dug up relate to the Audigy card.
[13:40] <jrib> tiyowan: not really.  pulse flakes out on me sometimes and I have to kill -9 some pulse process for my user and login again, but this doesn't seem to be that
[13:40] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: both of them
[13:40] <Neaai> tiyowan: and I suppose he granted that new user the rights to use audio too. To what I know, those rights are automatically assigned to the first user from the installer, while the manually added ones need also those permitions set manually.
[13:40] <bluey> hi, i just got an ipod touch and it wont work bcoz it needs itunes and itunes wont install through wine........ can anyone help me with this problem ?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119256&page=2
[13:41] <jrib> Neaai: we didn't check that
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: could try: sudo rm ~/Xautority*
[13:41] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: Wait one. Searching some more on the forums.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: log off, then log in, then try ssh to the box
[13:42] <jrib> bluey: yes, you are correct.  What you can do is jailbreak it and use ssh.  Otherwise, apple put a new hash on the library file that hasn't been reverse engineered yet, so software on linux can't work with your library.  Tell apple you don't like this.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTR1: all this on the box you are connecting to
[13:42] <ASULutzy> remoteCTR did you figure out your problem? You may have to edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config, if that's set correctly, do what Action said :)
[13:42] <Neaai> jrib: Could he see if he has that new user in the audio group? I'm sure his first user is part of that group already but I doubt this is true for his second, later added, user.
[13:42] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip1: already changed that .Xauthority permissions but havent tried to completely remove it yet, think that'll have an impact?
[13:42] <jrib> ActionParsnip1: you mean ~/.Xauthority ?
[13:42] <jrib> Neaai: go for it
[13:42] <bluey> jrib can u send me some links where i can read up on all this?
[13:43] <ASULutzy> remoteCTR1: Yea, you can rm it, (this on the server)
[13:43] <tiyowan> Forums are showing kernel bug reports for that sound card.
[13:43] <jrib> bluey: on jailbreaking you mean?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> jrib: it'll be globbed in :)
[13:43] <bluey> yes
[13:43] <jrib> ActionParsnip1: not the way you typed it :)
[13:43] <Stephen|Edibles> tiyowan, : Np, thankee. Weird though - I just found the command aplay -l and ran it. It doesnt list the SB.
[13:43] <DarkKnight> hey i used aptoncd to install packages to some systems which didnt have net connection....but the thing is that in synaptic i have to select the 153 packages i got installed so that i can update the database....is it not possible that the database gets updated on its own
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> jrib: gah
[13:43] <remoteCTR1> ASULutzy: well basically the one on the server is the same one as the local one as i have mounted the directora via autofs on the server
[13:43] <bluey> will it break my ipod .......... its brand new :(
[13:44] <remoteCTR1> jrib: never mind i understood him;)
[13:44] <tiyowan> Stephen|Edibles: I'm with you, buddy, running some searches. Give me a couple of minutes.
[13:44] <Neaai> Stephen|Edibles: you login as the first user, go to users and groups management and add the second user to the "audio" group. Logout and then login as the second user, and see what you have, if you do have sound or not. If your sound works in gdm, it's not hardware/driver trouble. That trouble would NOT give you any sound at all.
[13:44] <bluey> i have to go........ i will be back later
[13:45] <bizkwet> hi, what ide can you recommend in programming in gtk? i'm fairly new here. kindly go easy on me.. hehehe thanks!
[13:45] <remoteCTR1> humm ... that maybe the problem ActionParsnip1, that i am using the sam .Xauthority on both, the server and the client?
[13:45] <jrib> !away > bluey[away]
[13:45] <jrib> bluey[away]: you can read about jailbreaking at http://blog.iphone-dev.org/ .  You should do some research on it before you make the decision
[13:45] <ASULutzy> bizkwet: mono maybe?
[13:46] <Stephen|Edibles> Neaai, : Sorry?
[13:46] <bizkwet> or is it also good to just code in some text editor and compile it by invoking the command in the terminal? hmm.. hehe
[13:46] <onats> what's the most secure way i can remote into my ubuntu desktop from outside?