[05:07] <neozen> Bitmess: your personal files will live in /home which most people make a separate partition
[05:07] <gravemind> yes
[05:07] <LRP> Pelo: and all others who helped, guess what...it worked! Thanks for all your help, you guys are awesome
[05:07] <octoberdan> tovella: But it depends on firefox, which I want to uninstall to use swiftfox instead
[05:07] <Benno> Howdy. I was wondering if there's a way to connect to my X desktop from a remote computer?
[05:08] <tovella> octoberdan: ahh, i think they're talking about how the dependencies and their interrelationships with other programs.
[05:08] <Flannel> neozen: here's one: http://www.wickle.com/wiki/index.php/Install_a_dummy_package_to_satisfy_dependencies_on_debian
[05:08] <xX-ACID-Xx> is there a way to setup 2 computers to share internet connection if one is using linux and the other is using windows?
[05:08] <neozen> Bitmess: ie... my / has 5 gb ...my swap is 1gb ... and my /home has all the rest
[05:08] <wilo> Pelo: "You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com"
[05:08] <gravemind> genii: what should I paste?
[05:08] <wikityler> How do i find the name of my parallel port?
[05:08] <GolferX> when trying to use my gxset, I save and  hit 'ok' ...... I then look to find where I saved the file to the root drive and make sure it's there and I don't find it ........... what's up?  any help tonight?
[05:08] <wilo> how do i install latest version of java?
[05:08] <tovella> octoberdan: you can install swiftfox & just leave firefox installed.
[05:08] <neozen> Flannel: AWESOME
[05:08] <neozen> Flannel: thankee
[05:08] <genii> gravemind Please pastebin the results of the command:  ls -l ~
[05:08] <cables> Brasero is really great, will it ever be installed by default?
[05:08] <Pelo> wilo,  hold on
[05:08] <cables> !java | wilo
[05:08] <ubotu> wilo: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository.  I have 300GB but am also running XP and Debian. I just want too make sure I have enough space incase I keep it.
[05:09] <cables> wilo, if you want the java plugin, do sun-java5-plugin
[05:09] <neozen> add the multiverse repository first
[05:09] <gravemind> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12263/
[05:09] <Frog29> why does everyone make sure they say a persons name before talking? is there something special with IRC? or is it just for visibility?
[05:09] <cables> wilo, you need the multiverse repository for any sun java, and the backports repository for java 6
[05:09] <genii> gravemind OK reading
[05:09] <Flannel> Bitmess: If you've go space to spare, I'd up your / to 10GB, but apart from that, sounds pretty reasonable
[05:09] <cables> Frog29, it usually pops up the user's irc client when someone mentions their nick
[05:09] <gravemind> Frog29: it makes a beep and highlights the comment most of the time
[05:09] <tovella> octoberdan: there's a way to tell apt to permanently ignore a dependency, but i don't recall exactly how.
[05:09] <josh_> anyone here upgrade to fiesty
[05:09] <Pelo> Bitmess,  5-10 gig for ubuntu 2 gig for swap  how ever much your want for /home/
[05:09] <gravemind> probably depending on the irc client
[05:10] <josh_> !fiesty
[05:10] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:10] <Frog29> is there a name for the feature so i can enable it?
[05:10] <neozen> Flannel: that is exactly what I was looking for... I thank you
[05:10] <Flannel> Bitmess: You can always tweak stuff later, especially since you're home is on a separate partition (always a good choice)
[05:10] <cables> Frog29, what client are you using?
[05:10] <Frog29> mirc
[05:10] <cables> Frog29, not sure.
[05:10] <josh_> anyone know the fix for the automatix key issue for fiesty
[05:10] <Frog29> k
[05:10] <Pelo> Frog29,  it for visibility, you type it
[05:10] <cables> josh_, don't use automatix
[05:10] <cables> !automatix | josh_
[05:10] <ubotu> josh_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:10] <intelikey> i found a way.
[05:10] <lasking> tshit tshit i need a tshit  who sell me 8-)
[05:10] <octoberdan> tovella: That could be problematic for the packages that rely on libs from firefox. I heard KDE includes alot of apps like that
[05:10] <cables> josh_, also, for feisty support, go to #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <genii> gravemind Perms look OK. please do now the result of:   sudo ls -l ~/.*
[05:11] <xX-ACID-Xx> so how do i stop sual booting
[05:11] <aeropixie> josh_: using automatix and feisty, does nto sound fun.
[05:11] <intelikey> they told me it could not be done.   but i did it.
[05:11] <xX-ACID-Xx> dual*
[05:11] <mooniker> Is there a command to politely kill an app on a really slow (GUI nigh unusable) machine? I have a terminal open and I want to tell a certain program to tidily shutdown when it gets the chance.
[05:11] <qbert> hey peeps, i need a way to bind keyboard shortcuts to execute programs, how can i do this ???
[05:11] <octoberdan> tovella: If I could some how point them over to swiftfox...
[05:11] <Bitmess> Thanks for everyone's help. If you don't see me in 2 hours, I messed up my Grub
[05:11] <aeropixie> josh_:neither work perfectly.
[05:11] <Flannel> Frog29: mirc? It's two things.  One, most clients will nickcomplete, so I type "fro[tab] " and get your name.  SEcond, most clients highlight lines with your nick in them.  So, it's a way to keep a conversation going, even though there's 10 lines rolling by.
[05:11] <tovella> josh_: i upgraded to feisty & i used to use automatix.  sometimes succesfully, other times not.  i don't recommend using automatix.
[05:11] <Flannel> !grub | Bitmess
[05:11] <ubotu> Bitmess: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:11] <Flannel> Bitmess: first link ;)
[05:11] <neozen> mooniker: man kill
[05:11] <mooniker> which signal?
[05:11] <intelikey> it gained me absolutely nothing, but i did the impossable.
[05:11] <neozen> mooniker: you want to use the signal for TERM
[05:11] <Bitmess> :D lol
[05:11] <octoberdan> intelikey: ?
[05:12] <neozen> mooniker: can't remember which one that is
[05:12] <Benno> Is there a way to connect to my X desktop from a remote computer? Specifically, a Windows box.
[05:12] <latitude> !linmodem
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <gravemind> genii: too much output: can I pipe it to something in order to get all of it?
[05:12] <mooniker> so TERM is the polite quit signal?
[05:12] <neozen> mooniker: TERM is like tidly shutdown last I checked
[05:12] <comodo> can anyone help me i keep trying to extract this rar file thats broken up into a bunch of parts like a game backup and ark or the standard archive manager wont do it for some reason
[05:12] <wilo> these are the erros i get cables and Pelo
[05:12] <zen> Does anyone know how to stop checkinstall from trying to overwrite .so's in other packages?
[05:12] <mobomelter> whats the utility for hard disk partitioning?
[05:12] <cables> gravemind, pipe it to less to have a nice scrollable thingie
[05:12] <darrint> Is there a python-profiler package available for python2.5?
[05:12] <intelikey> without root permission i can put root owned files in my home dir     both cp and rm at will
[05:12] <gravemind> cables: thanks
[05:12] <cables> mobomelter, gparted. You'll have to use a livecd thouh
[05:12] <Pelo> !pastebin | wilo
[05:12] <ubotu> wilo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:12] <mobomelter> its not built into the install?
[05:12] <genii> gravemind Yes, you can do some file like:   sudo ls -l ~.* >>newfile
[05:12] <Flannel> intelikey: what?
[05:13] <GolferX> when trying to use my gxset, I save and  hit 'ok' ...... I then look to find where I saved the file to the root drive and make sure it's there and I don't find it ........... what's up?  any help tonight?
[05:13] <scott__> is there any way I can set up my static hostname lookup table to check a local file owned by the current user?
[05:13] <gravemind> genii: ok
[05:13] <intelikey> i was toll emphatically that it was not possable.  but it is.
[05:13] <scott__> like, ~/.hosts
[05:13] <tovella> octoberdan: again, i would simply leave firefox in place - running swiftfox alongside is the safest bet.
[05:13] <Frog29> can anypne help me with a TTY error on ubuntu start? this is right after upgrading to 6.10 9 i was able to boot to ubuntu imediatly after instlall but that's it)
[05:13] <wilo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12264/
[05:13] <octoberdan> tovella: Mmm, most likely. Thanks for advice
[05:13] <wilo> sorry i forgot to paste bin it lol
[05:13] <aeropixie> is there a wayin irc to tag another person? Liek, so my client will beep when that person gets a message sent to them? so i could follow an interesting conversation easily?
[05:13] <mooniker> So, the kill command is by default the "tidy" TERM?
[05:13] <tovella> octoberdan:  UR welcome
[05:13] <octoberdan> tovella: That's what I'll probably do
[05:13] <Pelo> Frog29,  try looking up the error msg in the forum
[05:13] <bratsche> Anyone having issues with SATA in Feisty?
[05:13] <mobomelter> cables can't i download gparted
[05:13] <mobomelter> ?
[05:13] <intelikey> oh and other than the "i told you so"  it's worth absolutely nothing.
[05:13] <Flannel> bratsche: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[05:14] <wilo> the mutiverse depository
[05:14] <Frog29> Pelo - i have, nothing seems to help
[05:14] <bratsche> Flannel: Thanks
[05:14] <wilo> is it just "#multiverse'
[05:14] <genii> intelikey LOL I saw a page with stats about #kubuntu and at the bottom "interesting facts" says intelikey gives the most monologues
[05:14] <gravemind> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12265/
[05:14] <GolferX> moon, you can also enter xkill and then click on the titlebar you want to kill with your cusor
[05:14] <cables> mobomelter, it's easier to use the Ubuntu LiveCD to do it... otherwise you have to unmount your disks and stuff
[05:14] <Frog29> at least i'm not sure how to edit the files and my config does not seem consistent with the forums
[05:14] <genii> gravemind OK reading
[05:14] <intelikey> genii only cause it's trye
[05:14] <Flannel> wilo: Add "multiverse" after your "universe" lines, in your sources.list, with a space in between them.  And you'll be good.
[05:14] <intelikey> true
[05:14] <mobomelter> nvm got it
[05:14] <cables> mobomelter, if you have a dapper or edgy livecd, just start it and go to System>Administration>Gnome Partition Editor
[05:15] <cables> mobomelter, it's not gonna work if you just download through the package manager
[05:15] <Pelo> Frog29,   to edit the afile  in cli mode   sudo nano /path/file
[05:15] <wilo> Pelo: what depository do i need, just '#multiverse'
[05:15] <intelikey> genii i'm just gloating ove the hallow victory atm.
[05:15] <mobomelter> how come?
[05:15] <gravemind> genii: this is the file the message complains about specifically: "-rw-r--r--  1 phix phix     26 2007-01-01 19:43 /home/phix/.dmrc"
[05:15] <genii> intelikey :)
[05:15] <wilo> Flannel: so '#multiverse' is that all
[05:15] <cables> !away | Skuld|Away
[05:15] <octoberdan> intelikey: I don't get what the big deal is. sudo mkdir foo mode=777 && rmdir foo
[05:15] <ubotu> Skuld|Away: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[05:15] <genii> gravemind Yes, I'm examining the output now
[05:15] <Flannel> wilo: no hash.
[05:15] <Pelo> wilo,  open up synaptic ,  enable all the available repos and reload,
[05:15] <Brismetal> Hi, I've been having problems with 6.10 Ubuntu so I just installed the beta of the new one, after I complete installation and re-boot the grub loader does not show up.  I tried following a guide to set it up but still nothing, what can I do to check what's wrong?
[05:15] <Frog29> Pelo - the afile? amd im able to edit files... but it seems to be a grub problem
[05:16] <octoberdan> Insecta_: People said you couldn't do that?
[05:16] <Flannel> Brismetal: what error(s) are you getting?
[05:16] <cables> Brismetal, having problems with a stable release so you switch to a beta?
[05:16] <Pelo> Frog29,   for a grub problem try asking  in #grub , they're the experts
[05:16] <Frog29> hmmm, but then it happens pat grub, well i'l give it a try, thanks
[05:16] <mobomelter> hey if i have folding at home on another desktop will it still work fine?
[05:16] <Brismetal> Flannel : No errors at all, I just reboot and it goes straight to windows.  When I followed the howto on the ubuntu site it seems to be working but I reboot again and still, windows xp
[05:17] <genii> gravemind The offending process then would seem to be dm
[05:17] <Flannel> Brismetal: ah.  Where are you installing grub?  hd0?
[05:17] <Foon> I need help trying to get an old monitor working with linux
[05:17] <mobomelter> lol i gotta log in as root to use gparted?
[05:17] <Brismetal> cables: haha, yes, 6.10 was too bad on my PC, took me forever to actually get it installed.  I can't boot from the 6.10 CD with my IDE drives enabled or it freezes etc
[05:17] <Flannel> mobomelter: Not root, use gksu
[05:17] <GolferX> Is gxset a trusted ap to negotiate the items it relates to?
[05:17] <gravemind> genii: I've never heard of it
[05:17] <bruenig> mobomelter, gksu gparted
[05:17] <Pelo> Brismetal,  could it be a time delay problem , where the delay is too short and you don'T get the menu ?
[05:17] <Brismetal> Flannel: I tried root (hd0,0) in grub but it seems to be installedo n hd3
[05:17] <Foon> I tried manufacturer recommended horizontal and vertical syncs, but it doesn't work, why? an ideas?
[05:17] <mobomelter> do what?
[05:17] <Brismetal> Pelo: but then it'd auto boot Ubuntu instead of XP right?
[05:18] <genii> graveming Looking up on google to see if anything enlightening
[05:18] <Arrick> is there anyone here smart enough to know what a properly formated MD5SUM line looks like?
[05:18] <mobomelter> wow what did gksu do?
[05:18] <genii> gravemind Looking up on google to see if anything enlightening
[05:18] <gravemind> Foon: have you tried lower depths?
[05:18] <Pelo> Brismetal,  that would depend on what the  "selected" os is in grub
[05:18] <ehc> is there a way to run a command without it taking up the current shell. like run it in the background?
[05:18] <genii> bleh need to use tab more
[05:18] <GolferX> Am I speaking a foreign language tonight?
[05:18] <mobomelter> eh everything is locked
[05:18] <vexati0n> lol@midgets
[05:18] <vexati0n> just sayin
[05:18] <Frog29> yes golfer
[05:18] <Foon> gravemind: It should be able to handle 24 bit
[05:18] <Brismetal> Pelo: it's a straight install, I didn't modify anything, if the beta is like 6.10 then ubuntu would be the selected os
[05:18] <mobomelter> so i guess i gotta live boot to edit it
[05:18] <Foon> it could under windows
[05:18] <Foon> but yeah, I tried 16
[05:18] <bruenig> mobomelter, gksu allows you to run graphical programs as root, generally you need to put your password, I am assuming by your astonishment that you didn't which means that you were still under that 15 min grace period between the last root command
[05:18] <genii> gravemind http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2308651
[05:18] <Flannel> Brismetal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  Use the "and overwriting windows bootloader" option
[05:18] <Foon> with no luck
[05:19] <GolferX> frog, thanks
[05:19] <mobomelter> nah i did use my password
[05:19] <Frog29> :)
[05:19] <Pelo> Brismetal, do you have  ubuntu and windows on seperate drives ?  try changing the boot drive in the bios
[05:19] <gravemind> Foon: seems like you know what you're doing, then. only ohter  thing I can think of is make sure you're using the right driver. vesa usually works I think
[05:19] <RoundyT1> !dokuwiki
[05:19] <ubotu> dokuwiki: a standards compliant simple to use wiki. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20060309-5 (edgy), package size 838 kB, installed size 7864 kB
[05:19] <Brismetal> Pelo: yes I do, I did that earlier and I got some kernel error as soon as it booted..
[05:20] <mobomelter> now i gotta figure out how to merge partitions
[05:20] <Brismetal> Flannel: hah, that's the guide I was looking at, I guess I should've scrolled down, tah
[05:20] <Foon> gravemind: I'm using mga driver because it's an old matrox video card
[05:20] <Pelo> Brismetal,  which windows ????
[05:20] <Foon> where/how would I get vesa installed?
[05:20] <genii> If only OO had a wiki export filter I'd be happy
[05:20] <Brismetal> Pelo: Windows XP
[05:20] <Flannel> Brismetal: right.  The first guide won't work (keeping the windows bootloader) for what you're doing.
[05:20] <GolferX> Frog29, so I take it you never heard of gxset
[05:20] <neozen> Flannel: AWESOME... it worked!
[05:20] <neozen> Flannel: thank you much
[05:21] <Pelo> Brismetal,   try asking for furter help in #grub, they are the (cough) experts
[05:21] <Frog29> GolferX, not at all, im new to linux and trying to get hlep as well :)
[05:21] <Brismetal> Flannel, Pelo; I don't know if it makes any difference but I have 2 IDE drives and 2 SATA drives, in the bios the SATA drives show as the first two (as they do in windows) but in linux (I'm in a live cd now) the IDE drives show as the first two drives
[05:21] <GolferX> good luck
[05:21] <bruenig> !info gxset
[05:21] <ubotu> gxset: Display preferences utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-2 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 204 kB
[05:21] <gravemind> Foon: i believe it's already installed - run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the vesa driver, or simply edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver to vesa
[05:21] <mobomelter> is it possible to merge partitions using gparted with a live boot disk?
[05:21] <Pelo> Brismetal,  shouldn'T be an issue
[05:22] <GolferX> bruenig, thanks :)
[05:22] <bruenig> mobomelter, merge by formatting one and expanding the other yes
[05:22] <Flannel> Brismetal: IDE drives will show up as hda and hdb, sata will show up as sda and sdb.  In GRUB, the order (hd0-hd4) depends on what the BIOS wants to do
[05:22] <Foon> hehe np :) thanks gravemind
[05:22] <Brismetal> Pelo:  cool, I'll go try the link Flannel gave me
[05:22] <Foon> don't go anywhere, I'll try that
[05:22] <mobomelter> lol that will work
[05:22] <Brismetal> Flannel: OK, how do I tell which is hd0 and which is hd2 in grub?
[05:22] <Foon> oh, but er, at what point should I see vesa in the list?
[05:22] <mobomelter> is /media/sd1 needed?
[05:23] <Flannel> Brismetal: You'll have to check your BIOS for which it thinks is first.
[05:23] <erfdain> I have a question about WINE
[05:23] <Foon> er nm, I'll just run dpkg-reconfigure and find out
[05:23] <dauoalagio2> hello is there a way i can have whatever song i am playing show up in my gaim away message?
[05:23] <Foon> anywho, don't go anywhere! :)
[05:23] <Alpha_Cluster> can anyone help me with a crazy dpkg error?
[05:23] <Pelo> erfdain,   try #winehq
[05:23] <Brismetal> Flannel: ok thanks, I'll go try the howto now
[05:23] <genii> gravemind Pls let me know if this worked for you
[05:23] <Alpha_Cluster> dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpgk/available' near line 2 package 'xmodmap':
[05:23] <Alpha_Cluster>  value for 'status' field not allowed in this context
[05:23] <gravemind> genii: entering commands - I was helping foon
[05:23] <wilo> still cant get java to install :(
[05:23] <Pelo> Alpha_Cluster,  try searching the error msg in the forum
[05:24] <genii> gavemind No hurry :)
[05:24] <wilo> wat is the wget directory of source.list?
[05:24] <gravemind> genii: alright, I'm restarting x to see if the message goes away
[05:24] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, well open up /var/lib/dpkg/available and see what the problem is
[05:24] <brophat> is there something you gotta do first in order to get sound?
[05:24] <Pelo> wilo,  search  synaptic for all java packages,   and remove them ,  reboot and start from scratch
[05:24] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: that is the problem it looks perfectly fine!
[05:24] <mobomelter> seriously though can i get rid of the directory /media/sd1?
[05:24] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, what does it look like, just the first few lines,
[05:24] <mobomelter> sda1
[05:24] <mobomelter> its not where linux is installed
[05:25] <brujo> hola
[05:25] <brujo> alguien habla espaol
[05:25] <Alpha_Cluster> Package: xmodmap
[05:25] <bruenig> !es
[05:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:25] <Pelo> mobomelter,  if you donT' have anything in it , there isnT' any reason why you need it
[05:25] <Alpha_Cluster> Status: install ok installed
[05:25] <mobomelter> alright
[05:25] <xipietotec> okay, I'm using a card which supposedly works "out of the box" the restricted driver management thingy is telling me it has to use the atheros proprietary drivers...however it's still not connecting to anything and my bitrate is locked at 1mb/s, also, it's created ath0:avah, and eth0:avah, and won't let me bring down either ath0 or ath0:avah or eth0:avah
[05:25] <mobomelter> the live install forced me to make it
[05:25] <mobomelter> not sure why
[05:25] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, that file one mine doesn't have the Status entry, it just goes straight to Priority
[05:25] <xipietotec> I installed linux-restricted-modules-(latest kernel)-generic, are there any other restricted modules packages I need to isntall?
[05:26] <Pelo> mobomelter,  might be your swapfile,  don't mess with it if it is
[05:26] <bruenig> wow that didn't make any sense at all
[05:26] <mobomelter> nah i made a seperate partition for that
[05:26] <brophat> do you have to run the alsa config function in order to get sound?
[05:26] <mobomelter> i have 4 right now
[05:26] <mobomelter> 1 for linux
[05:26] <Foon> !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:26] <bruenig> s/one/on/
[05:26] <Foon> gravemind: it WORKS! :D
[05:26] <Pelo> bruenig,  you do better
[05:26] <xipietotec> /sda1 is usually swap, /hda1 is usually your main install
[05:26] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: yeah i know it makes no sense here either since i never touched it
[05:26] <neozen> brophat: I didn't have to... but ymmv
[05:26] <mobomelter> 1 swap file, 1 window xp, and 1 media/sda1
[05:26] <genii> Foon He should be back shortly :)
[05:26] <Foon> I've been on that problem since this weekend! all I needed to try was vesa, then! Yeesh! :D
[05:27] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, what comes after the Status
[05:27] <Foon> oh
[05:27] <gravemind> genii: The message does not appear any more, thanks!
[05:27] <Foon> heh
[05:27] <Foon> :)
[05:27] <brophat> neozen do you remember what that command is?
[05:27] <genii> gravemind Cool
[05:27] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: Priority
[05:27] <Pelo> mobomelter,   did you check to see if there is anything in there ?
[05:27] <Foon> (11:26:29 PM) Foon: gravemind: it WORKS! :D
[05:27] <Foon> :D
[05:27] <gravemind> genii: I'll have to test whether Gaim will now remember my info
[05:27] <neozen> brophat: no... since I never had to run it
[05:27] <Frog29> hello, can someone help me with a TTY error on startup? I've isntalled a new ubuntu instal and now its giving me that error..... (i've searched online and there doesn't seem to be a solution, if its a config fiel i don't know how to fix it...)
[05:27] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, ok try removing the Status line, and seeing if that fixes it
[05:27] <gravemind> Foon: great! glad I could help
[05:27] <Foon> (11:26:49 PM) Foon: I've been on that problem since this weekend! all I needed to try was vesa, then! Yeesh! :D
[05:27] <Foon> quite!
[05:27] <Foon> :D
[05:27] <Foon> thanks much :)
[05:27] <bruenig> s/seeing/see/
[05:27] <mobomelter> just a small file with volume information
[05:27] <mobomelter> no system fles
[05:27] <gravemind> foon: no problem
[05:28] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: i think that is not guna solve the problem as the next entry has a Status line
[05:28] <Pelo> mobomelter,  it's your computer, if you want to get rid of it, have fun
[05:28] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, I don't have any Status lines in that file for me
[05:28] <mobomelter> lol
[05:28] <mobomelter> i mean i have windows to fall back on
[05:28] <Foon> now for the extremely critical aspect of linux
[05:28] <Foon> THEMES!
[05:28] <neozen> I like mplayer's plugin so much more then gtotem
[05:28] <Foon> heheheh
[05:28] <mobomelter> so its not like i'm completley screed
[05:28] <Foon> how do I theme fluxbox?
[05:28] <l90bpm> I just installed Feisty Fawn and when I go to update, I get the message "You are about to install software that can't be authenticated"  is this normal?
[05:28] <mobomelter> screwed*
[05:29] <Foon> or rather, select a theme?
[05:29] <Pelo> mobomelter,  are you sure that partition is not part of you windows install ?
[05:29] <mobomelter> brb
[05:29] <mobomelter> yes
[05:29] <mobomelter> windows is ntfs
[05:29] <neozen> Foon: scope out #fluxbox
[05:29] <mobomelter> and this one is fat32
[05:29] <Foon> thanks neozen :)
[05:29] <neozen> I think they have their own channel on freenode
[05:29] <r4nge> what do i need to configure a vhost on a linux server for irc
[05:29] <neozen> !fluxbox
[05:29] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[05:29] <GolferX> is there a counselling channel on this network for support cause I don't want to go back to Windows
[05:30] <Frog29> !busybox
[05:30] <neozen> Foon: wait... ther you go
[05:30] <ubotu> busybox: Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 283 kB, installed size 516 kB
[05:30] <Pelo> mobomelter,  /media/ is often used for removable media,  could be a cd or a floppy or some such
[05:30] <neozen> GolferX: yes
[05:30] <Foon> heheh, thanks
[05:30] <mobomelter> alright
[05:30] <neozen> GolferX: you're looking at it
[05:30] <mobomelter> i'm going to check it out
[05:30] <mobomelter> brb
[05:30] <gravemind> genii: sadly, gaim still forgets my account info
[05:30] <GolferX> neozen, really?  this is it?
[05:30] <Frog29> !initramfs
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <genii> gravemind: :(
[05:30] <neozen> Foon: lol..... wait... there is a fluxbox channel
[05:30] <neozen> Foon: who knew?!?!
[05:30] <Frog29> does anyone know what initramfs is?
[05:31] <neozen> lol
[05:31] <wilo> Pelo: do i have to make a complete reboot for the uninstall through synaptic to take place?
[05:31] <neozen> Foon: have fun you
[05:31] <Frog29> i get to its console on startup.............
[05:31] <genii> gravemind: I have an idea on that, gimme a few minutes
[05:31] <neozen> wilo: depends.... did you mess with your kernel
[05:31] <dauoalagio2> hello is there a way i can have whatever song i am playing show up in my gaim away message?
[05:31] <GolferX> neozen, this channel is the one that distresses me.
[05:31] <wilo> neozen: no
[05:31] <neozen> wilo: or the initramfs?
[05:31] <Pelo> GolferX,   different ppl can help with different things,  not everyone knows everything and not everyone is here at the same time ,  you can try asking tomorrow earlier in the day or some such
[05:31] <neozen> GolferX: eh?
[05:31] <wilo> neozen: no
[05:31] <neozen> GolferX: what's your problem?
[05:31] <gravemind> genii: alright
[05:32] <wilo> so im fine then?
[05:32] <neozen> wilo: then you shouldn't have to update
[05:32] <neozen> *reboot I mean
[05:32] <Pelo> wilo,  no , but it's jsut making sure no  apps linger in the memory
[05:32] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, try: sudo sed -i '/^Status/d' /var/lib/dpkg/available
[05:32] <wilo> ok i shall brb then
[05:32] <neozen> dauoalagio2: sounds like a gaim plugin question
[05:32] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, don't do that
[05:32] <neozen> dauoalagio2: go poke those fine people @ gaim
[05:32] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, do: sudo sed -i.backup '/^Status/d' /var/lib/dpkg/available
[05:33] <Alpha_Cluster> yeah i didnt think that sounded smart lol
[05:33] <dauoalagio2> neozen: all right thanks
[05:33] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, there makes a backup
[05:33] <brophat> neozen btw i think it is alsaconf
[05:33] <genii> gravemind: sudo chmod -R 755 ~/.gaim
[05:33] <neozen> brophat: ok....
[05:33] <neozen> brophat: my card just seems to work in the kernel
[05:34] <neozen> brophat: i have nightmares where everything breaks when I update to feisty
[05:34] <Flannel> genii, gravemind, you shouldn't have to sudo that.
[05:34] <Foon> neozen: hehe thanks :D
[05:34] <SirBob1701> can anyone give me some help with mplayer it says it can't initialize my sound device (every other program with audio works)
[05:34] <genii> Flannel Right nowroot owns those on his box
[05:34] <Pelo> neozen,  just make a clean install then
[05:34] <GolferX> neozen, my computer problem is the blanking screen, dpms, and the whole shooting match that is found in gxset.  my Windows problem is deeper than I care to probe; I thought I had it neatly packaged away.
[05:34] <Foon> oh, and yeah, for #fluxbox, lol
[05:34] <aeropixie> Does aptitude have access to all the same scrips at apt-get
[05:34] <aeropixie> ?
[05:34] <gravemind> Flannel: ok. what happens if I sudo it though (curious)
[05:34] <Flannel> genii: eh?  Why?  did he run gaim with sudo?
[05:34] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: seems to work now though i find it upsetting that the fourms had no explaination of how to solve this even though i know ive gotten it before numerous times
[05:34] <Pelo> SirBob1701,  try asking in #mplayer
[05:34] <neozen> GolferX: this is under edgy right?
[05:34] <brophat> neozen actually I am speeking for my brother, so god only knows what is going on with him up in that other state. I just got him step off the windows grid and try ubuntu
[05:35] <bruenig> aeropixie, what do you mean scripts, like preinst?
[05:35] <SirBob1701> k
[05:35] <SirBob1701> this is on free node right?
[05:35] <Flannel> gravemind: You shouldn't have to, because you should own those files.  If you need to use sudo, there's something else going wrong.
[05:35] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, it worked after doing that command or some other way?
[05:35] <genii> Flannel I dunno but it's owned by rot, according to his last pastebin
[05:35] <aeropixie> bruenig: i meant packages.
[05:35] <Pelo> SirBob1701,  yes
[05:35] <GolferX> neozen, yeah
[05:35] <neozen> GolferX: to solve the blanking screen issue I installed dapper instead of edgy
[05:35] <bruenig> aeropixie, yes it does
[05:35] <Flannel> gravemind: did you run GAIM with sudo ever?
[05:35] <genii> *root* rather bleh
[05:35] <GolferX> eek
[05:35] <neozen> GolferX: this issue is not present AT ALL in dapper
[05:35] <wilo> wats the comman to get frostfire back
[05:35] <brophat> neozen if he has an X through his speaker icon on his desktop does that mean he definately currently does not have sound?
[05:35] <aeropixie> bruenig: thanks
[05:35] <gravemind> Flannel: usually I just start it with the GUI, it never asks for an admin pass
[05:35] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: after that command
[05:35] <wilo> 'sudo apt-get frostfire'?
[05:36] <GolferX> I should have stayed there with that one
[05:36] <aeropixie> bruenig: so is there ever a reason to use apt-get instead?
[05:36] <bruenig> wilo, apt-get isn't in the repositories
[05:36] <Flannel> gravemind: right, usually.  But have you ever done it otherwise?
[05:36] <GolferX> then
[05:36] <neozen> brophat: no... my guess would be that he's got it muted
[05:36] <neozen> brophat: that's my first guess
[05:36] <wilo> bruenig: not in the repositories?
[05:36] <bruenig> aeropixie, the same question could be asked for aptitude, they are essentially the same
[05:36] <GolferX> meozen, do you know if Feisty will have it?
[05:36] <gravemind> Flannel: not to my knowledge. I'll try it without sudo and see what happens
[05:36] <gravemind> try chmod I mean
[05:36] <neozen> GolferX: that's neozen mate
[05:36] <GolferX> neozen, do you know if Feisty will have it?
[05:36] <GolferX> sorry about the typo
[05:37] <brophat> neozen how do you unmute it?
[05:37] <Pelo> wilo,  go and download frostwire from the site and run the deb file to install it
[05:37] <aeropixie> bruenig: i thoung aptitude made it simpler to uninstall?
[05:37] <bruenig> wilo, yeah frostfire or frostwire is not in the repos
[05:37] <neozen> GolferX: and when I fired up the last beta image I had... it didn't do it... this... is good
[05:37] <bruenig> aeropixie, aptitude remove package, apt-get autoremove package
[05:37] <bruenig> you pick
[05:37] <neozen> GolferX: since it really ticked me off in edgy
[05:37] <Pelo> and wilo   install java first
[05:37] <neozen> GolferX: no worries
[05:37] <Flannel> gravemind: if ~/.gaim is owned by root, you'll want to chown it (recursively) to your own user.
[05:37] <genii> gravemind It may work without the sudo now, if the commands to restore the .dmrc worked. I think the last command was a chown on everything in ~ back to user
[05:37] <neozen> GolferX: I think its going to be ok
[05:37] <gravemind> Flannel - problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12268/
[05:37] <GolferX> neozen, cool we are of like needs then
[05:37] <GolferX> good
[05:37] <aeropixie> bruenig: oh, thanks.
[05:38] <GolferX> thanks
[05:38] <neozen> GolferX: a little less then a month
[05:38] <GolferX> great
[05:38] <neozen> GolferX: and we get new linux... with fewer issues
[05:38] <neozen> not that dapper has issues
[05:38] <Flannel> gravemind: your user is phix, right?
[05:38] <neozen> ...just noticably out of date stuff included in the box
[05:38] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, was it that command that did it or some other thing?
[05:39] <neozen> s/stick/trout
[05:39] <neozen> /
[05:39] <neozen> lol
[05:39] <gravemind> Flannel: yes
[05:39] <Flannel> gravemind: go ahead and `sudo chown -R phix:phix /home/phix/.gaim`
[05:39] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: liek i said fbefore the command fixed it that you gave me
[05:39] <gravemind> Flannel: alright
[05:39] <neozen> hey wait ... that makes me wonder again
[05:39] <Flannel> gravemind: then you should be able to chmod them without sudo.  As to *why* those would be owned by root, I have no idea.  They shouldn't be.
[05:39] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, ok, well I wasn't sure if you had run it, you seemed (rightfully so) wary of it. All I saw was "it works now"
[05:40] <genii> Flannel Yes, it was curious
[05:41] <gravemind> Flannel: genii : ok I've chowned it, now should I chmod it again?
[05:41] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: I know quite a bit so of course i was wary lol but it seemed to be a quick and durty fix that was safe after i looked it over lol
[05:41] <Flannel> gravemind: won't hurt, I don't believe.  I don't know what gaims default perms are.
[05:41] <genii> gravemind: Yes, chmod -R 755 should begood since right now it's all 700
[05:41] <Flannel> gravemind: the only thing that it would do (755) would be make it so others could read your stuff.  Whatever stuff is in tere.
[05:42] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, do you use aptitude?
[05:42] <Ademan> anyone know of a site where i can browse the kernel source code?
[05:42] <Flannel> gravemind: 700 won't hurt you any though.  So, I woudn't bother if it's 700 now.
[05:42] <gravemind> Flannel: genii, according to nautilus, it's still owned by root
[05:42] <mobomelter> i deleted it with no problems
[05:42] <mobomelter> although my problem now is i can't add the space back
[05:42] <Flannel> gravemind: You'll need to refresh nautilus, sometimes it takes a while to re-look
[05:43] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig:  never touched aptitude i use apt-get and adept if i need to see things better
[05:43] <genii> gravemind Perhaps if you have the app open
[05:43] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, ok because the Status: installed thing is a purely aptitude thing if I remember
[05:43] <genii> (but it shouldn't matter, so long as the files aren'tlocked)
[05:43] <mobomelter> so i just have 5 gigs of free space
[05:43] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: thats funny cause even aptitude was giving crazy errors with it
[05:44] <gravemind> genii, flannel, "chmod -R 755 ~/.gaim" ?
[05:44] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, I am just wondering if aptitude maybe wrote to that file or something and that is why it screwed up or something. If so a bug report would be good.
[05:44] <Flannel> gravemind: if you want, yeah.  I don't think it's necessarsy.
[05:44] <genii> gravemind I defer to Flannel that 700 should be fine
[05:44] <Frog29> is anyone up for looking over my grub settings? i think they are casuing boot problems
[05:44] <Pelo> mobomelter,  you can use gparted to resize an adjoining partion to take up the free space,  but back up that partiton first
[05:45] <gravemind> ok
[05:45] <mobomelter> i tried but it won't let me because its before the partition
[05:46] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: i had never run aptitude on that comp till the error had appeared
[05:46] <gravemind> Flannel: genii : I'll restart gaim, add the accounts, and then see if gaim saves them
[05:46] <bruenig> Alpha_Cluster, yeah so I guess my wanderings were off base
[05:46] <Pelo> mobomelter,  you could back up that partition,  remove it and make a new larger partition using all the free space
[05:46] <bruenig> s/wanderings/wonderings/
[05:46] <Pelo> mobomelter,  that was my last suggestion regarding this
[05:47] <mobomelter> what utility do i use to back up?
[05:47] <Flannel> !backup | mobomelter
[05:47] <ubotu> mobomelter: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:47] <neozen> mobomelter: what's the problem?
[05:47] <mobomelter> neozen i'm tried to merge partitions
[05:47] <Alpha_Cluster> bruenig: i dont know like i said ive seen teh error before but lasttime all i could do to solve it was reinstall so its nice tohave found a fix
[05:47] <mobomelter> trying*
[05:49] <neozen> mobomelter: ohhhhh boy
[05:49] <kane`> hello
[05:49] <anirudha> anyone, What do you use to play videos on the internet that usually play on Windows Media player? What package do you download?
[05:49] <neozen> mobomelter: yeah... that doesn't go so well
[05:49] <Edward> Hello
[05:49] <mobomelter> yeah it sucks neozen
[05:49] <mobomelter> i feel like an idiot
[05:49] <neozen> mobomelter: why are you merging?
[05:49] <Pelo> anirudha,  install mozilla-mplayer and remove mozilla-totem
[05:49] <neozen> mobomelter: separating root and home is a good thing
[05:49] <kane`> I think i've got something thats a bug, I looked through the bug list and didnt see anything similar, I was wondering if anyone here could help me report it
[05:49] <praettor> hi.  i'm trying to install xubuntu on a computer, and using the "install" option on the desktop of the livecd is not an option.
[05:50] <praettor> namely, every time i do that, everything comes to a halt.
[05:50] <anirudha> Pelo, to install mozilla-player is the command "sudo intall aptitude mozilla-mplayer" correct?
[05:50] <Flannel> kane`: If you looked, and didn't see anything.  And it's broken, chances are it's a new bug ;)
[05:50] <Pelo> anirudha,  install instead of intall
[05:50] <praettor> i know there is a text-based installation, but a) i don't know how to get to it and b) i won't know what to do when i'm there
[05:50] <Frog29> Please can someone help? i'm having a problem with ubuntu starting to start up, but failing part way though with some kind of tty error, i know Ubuntu can start (it did right after isntall) and i think i've looked at everything online......
[05:50] <mobomelter> because i made a 12 gig for the install
[05:51] <mobomelter> and i don't need it all
[05:51] <Flannel> praettor: Alternate CD.  Easiest wayis through: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[05:51] <anirudha> Pelo, okay thanks ... and to remove mozilla-totem, "sudo remove aptitude mozilla-totem" correct?
[05:51] <praettor> flannel: i will have to download another cd?
[05:51] <kane`> Flannel, well I saw something close to it, but I wasn't quite sure, I'm still pretty new to ubuntu in linux in general.
[05:51] <Flannel> praettor: It's a nice easy walktrhough install too.  You just get textbased menus, and not fancy graphics
[05:51] <Flannel> praettor: yeah
[05:51] <Pelo> anirudha,  sounds about right,  I usualy use synaptic,  I'm just lazy
[05:52] <Flannel> kane`: What's your issue?
[05:52] <praettor> i was told that there was no alternate cd available for the latest version of xubuntu, is that true?
[05:52] <anirudha> Pelo, how do I use synaptic ?
[05:52] <mobomelter> yeah its me just being crazy with keeping things straight
[05:52] <flake> in my DHCP list, the host name of my installation is (NULL), unlike the windows machines which are all named.  How can I name my Host ubuntu name?
[05:52] <Flannel> praettor: xubuntu?  hmm.  I don't know.  Let me check.  I doubt it isn't available.
[05:52] <Pelo> anirudha,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[05:53] <Flannel> praettor: Yeah, it's available:  http://xubuntu.com/get#edgy  picka mirror (except the US one, since that apparently only has DVD images)
[05:53] <gravemind> flannel: genii, accounts are remembered now, thanks!
[05:53] <praettor> but that's edgy
[05:53] <praettor> eft
[05:53] <praettor> which is ubuntu
[05:54] <Flannel> praettor: no, 6.10 is a version, there's Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu Edgy, dapper, feisty, etc.
[05:54] <praettor> err perhaps i am wrong
[05:54] <Flannel> praettor: one is a windows manager, one is a time-version.
[05:54] <neozen> praettor: xubuntu question?
[05:54] <Pelo> praettor,   edgy is for all ubuntu distros,  x , k, e, and ubuntu,
[05:54] <genii> gravemind :)
[05:54] <praettor> i thought the "hoary..... edgy" only reffered to ubuntu :p
[05:54] <kane`> anyway heres what happens: I have a dual boot set up, winXP and ubuntu 6.10 edgy, with a wireless linksys wusb11 card, whenever switching between windows and ubuntu, if i leave my wireless adapter connected to the computer, whenever i try to connect to the internet (any mode, or any app) ubuntu goes into a lock up, nothing will open, the "Starting XYZ App" shows for a second and then goes away. and I have to ctrl+alt+backspace o
[05:54] <kane`> r hard reboot to fix it
[05:54] <neozen> praettor: ..no... those are version numbers for all ubuntus
[05:55] <mobomelter> screw it
[05:55] <mobomelter> don't care enough to fix it
[05:55] <neozen> praettor: as names are easier to remember then numbers
[05:55] <neozen> mobomelter: lol
[05:55] <kane`> but if i pull out my wireless adapter, and wait until ubuntu is loaded fully up, and then replug in my adapter, everything works as it should
[05:55] <Pelo> praettor,   ubuntu is the distro,   edgy and so on are the release,  xubu, kubu,  etc refer to the desktop manager used ,  xcfe, kde , gnome  etc
[05:55] <praettor> uh which link is the alternate install (sorry, i just don't see it!)
[05:55] <genii> Frog29: edit the file /etc/hostname and put some name there. You need to edit it as root, so    gksu gedit
[05:55] <ubuntugrl> when i try to run links2 with -g, i loose my mouse support. any ideas?
[05:56] <kane`> I notice the same thing in windows, although just unpluging and replugging works in windows (not in ubuntu, though)
[05:56] <SirBob1701> well the mplayer channel blows
[05:56] <Frog29> thank you. i'll try that
[05:56] <neozen> SirBob1701: oh?
[05:56] <praettor> found it!
[05:56] <neozen> SirBob1701: what's your issue w/ mplayer?
[05:56] <genii> Frog29: It be effected next boot
[05:56] <Pelo> SirBob1701,   different time of day maybe
[05:56] <praettor> 700 megs later, and i'll be in business
[05:56] <praettor> thanks a bunch
[05:56] <gravemind> genii: I've used gksudo and gksu for graphical apps, what's the difference?
[05:56] <neozen> SirBob1701: (I compiled mine from source but I'll see what I can do)
[05:57] <SirBob1701> banned me because I didn't see he said to post something on rath.net and accidently flooded the channel
[05:57] <neozen> SirBob1701: lol
[05:57] <SirBob1701> didn't even get a chance to say woops
[05:57] <Pelo> SirBob1701,  give me a minute to see if I can't remember what they told me to do about my sound problem ( thatwas yoru problem right ?
[05:57] <Frog29> Genii - i'm accessing it useing it mounted on windows
[05:57] <SirBob1701> ya
[05:57] <mobomelter> another dumb question how do i go back a directory?
[05:57] <neozen> SirBob1701: but what's your issue with mplayer?
[05:57] <SirBob1701> thanks Pelo
[05:57] <djik__> kane`, you can stop the wireless/local lan from getting an IP at boot time by ctrl+alt+deling when you see the loading bar stopping
[05:57] <mobomelter> its not the dos command hahaha
[05:57] <neozen> SirBob1701: I might be able to help you
[05:57] <neozen> mobomelter: cd ..
[05:57] <SirBob1701> oo Cannot open/Initialize sound device
[05:57] <mobomelter> space ..
[05:57] <mobomelter> aha
[05:57] <neozen> mobomelter: actually ... it is
[05:57] <djik__> it makes the computer boot much faster if you':)
[05:57] <genii> gravemind Mainly esoteric differences
[05:57] <xipietotec> http://rafb.net/p/vf1ToV61.html ?!?!??! why do wireless cards hate me?
[05:57] <SirBob1701> so it doesnt play any of the audio channels
[05:57] <djik__> (if you're not connected to any network)
[05:58] <xipietotec> this is supposed to be an out of the box working card
[05:58] <neozen> SirBob1701: try running mplayer with -ao alsa
[05:58] <SirBob1701> already did it did nothing
[05:58] <crimsun> SirBob1701: so close whatever's currently holding the sound card open.
[05:58] <mobomelter> alright good enough
[05:58] <Pelo> SirBob1701,  , open up mplayer,  goto the prefs , in audio an set alsa use all defaults
[05:58] <mobomelter> 5 gigs lost lol
[05:58] <anirudha> Pelo, in Synaptic Manager I can't find mozilla-totem, the search produces 0 results
[05:58] <gravemind> genii: cool, so I can use them interchangably
[05:58] <Pelo> anirudha,  just type totem as see what you get
[05:58] <neozen> Pelo: lol.... no gui over here... all hail ~/.mplayer/config
[05:58] <anirudha> Pelo,  okay thanks.
[05:59] <genii> Frog29: If you mean the name which Windows machines see it as then that is a different thing. That is controlled by the samba program
[05:59] <SirBob1701> wow i feel stupid
[05:59] <Pelo> neozen,  youare more 1337 then me
[05:59] <SirBob1701> Pelo Thanks
[05:59] <SirBob1701> that was it
[05:59] <Flannel> gravemind: Since dapper, gksudo is a symlink to gksu, so they are infact identical.
[05:59] <Pelo> SirBob1701,  congrats
[05:59] <SirBob1701> back to the mst problem
[05:59] <SirBob1701> hmm spanish tho
[05:59] <arpegius> if i have upnp enabled on my router, should apps like bittornado 'just work' on upnp, or do i need to do some install/configs?
[05:59] <kane`> djik_, ill try it next time i switch from win to ubuntu and see what happens
[05:59] <SirBob1701> I'll have to play with taht
[05:59] <gravemind> Flannel: ok
[05:59] <neozen> SirBob1701: mst?
[05:59] <SirBob1701> I'm doing java programming for minimal spanning tree
[05:59] <SirBob1701> using the java collections framework
[05:59] <neozen> SirBob1701: oss doesn't like sharing the sound card with anything else
[06:00] <kane`> oss missed kindergarten.
[06:00] <genii> gravemind as a general difference sudo is to execute something as superuser whereas su is to substitute user (whuch if you don't specify name is root)
[06:00] <neozen> if you configure all your apps to use alsa output... you'll get simulaneous sound
[06:00] <SirBob1701> i have it set to alsa tho
[06:00] <neozen> SirBob1701: which is what you want
[06:00] <Frog29> genii - so in the hostname file i see ubuntu - should i change it? shoudl  iadd something after it?
[06:00] <Pelo> SirBob1701,  if you are getting a choice of language , try looking for the audo choiced in the options menu ( not so deep as the prefs)
[06:00] <mobomelter> brb
[06:00] <neozen> SirBob1701: some are messed up
[06:00] <neozen> SirBob1701: and have borked alsa support
[06:00] <SirBob1701> hmm
[06:01] <genii> Frog29: No, in this case leave it then. The explanantion you gave earlier of dhcp name was inaccurate.
[06:01] <Frog29> ?
[06:01] <neozen> Pelo: more of a preference actually
[06:02] <Frog29> i was saying on startup ubuntu gives me an error of TTY and somethign aobut failing to start
[06:02] <neozen> Pelo: I don't like a gui cluttering up my video player
[06:02] <genii> Frog29: What you want is not some dhcp name but a name the Windows computers see on the network, yes?
[06:02] <milinksergich> hola?
[06:02] <Pelo> neozen,  to each his own
[06:02] <neozen> Pelo: particularly on a laptop, I want something controlled by keyboard
[06:02] <Frog29> Genii - ? no i'm having a problem with ubuntu starting.......
[06:02] <Flannel> genii: gksu and gksudo are the same thing.  I don't believe they were ever akin to the difference of su and sudo.
[06:02] <anirudha> Pelo, Thank you so much for the help. I'll see how it works out! =)
[06:03] <SirBob1701> wow i cant find the language settings lol
[06:03] <Pelo> anirudha,  best of luck
[06:03] <neozen> Pelo: really hard to miss the f and hit d... but when you're using a mouse in a mobile environment... ie train... with bumps.... forget about hitting that stop button
[06:03] <neozen> Pelo: lol
[06:03] <mobomelter> back
[06:03] <genii> Flannel You can use the same switches on gksu as you can on su to edit as any user. eg: mysql or any. You can only run things as root with gksudo
[06:03] <neozen> Pelo: plus... no mplayer package in dapper
[06:03] <Pelo> neozen,  I use keys to but I have the gui anyway,  I like the pretty
[06:04] <neozen> Pelo: heh
[06:04] <Pelo> neozen,  i hardly use mplayer myself,  totem does most of what I need
[06:04] <neozen> Pelo: hmm.. totem.... gui
[06:04] <neozen> Pelo: lol
[06:04] <Pelo> I only realy have mplayer for the firefox stuff
[06:04] <Flannel> genii: sudo can use switches to change to a user as well.  And, literally gksudo and gksu are the same thing (since one is a symlink to the other)
[06:05] <Pelo> neozen,   more like totem = easy , not messy
[06:05] <genii> Frog29: So then, your computer does not immediately get an IP from the router then is the issue?
[06:06] <Frog29> genii - not at all.... maybe i mispoke, my problem is that ubuntu won't start at all anymore, it only started once after isntall
[06:06] <genii> Flannel Ah, I didn't know they were symlinked :) But when I worked on mainly BSD systems it had been explained to me thus, about sudo as opposed to su
[06:06] <hagabaka> hmm, does http://www.getdeb.net/ provide an APT repository?
[06:06] <ubuntugrl> whats the difference between directfb and fb?
[06:07] <LRP> Pelo: how can I show my mounted share drive in the Computer window as a drive icon?
[06:07] <Flannel> hagabaka: you'd have to ask them
[06:07] <arrow> I'm trying to burn an .iso image to dvd, does anyone recommend a program?
[06:07] <genii> Frog29: Ah, then that is an entire different issue
[06:07] <Flannel> !burniso | arrow
[06:07] <ubotu> arrow: To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:07] <hagabaka> it seems to be from Canonical Ltd though
[06:07] <kjm> arrow - GnomeBaker
[06:07] <Pelo> LRP, are you just taking about changing the icon or you want to make a shortcut ?
[06:08] <arrow> Flannel, kjm, thanks
[06:08] <Frog29> genii - yea, and i have apsolutely no leads, except that it may be grub, but then i think  ihav it configured correctly
[06:08] <LRP> making a shortcut that is in "Places--Computer"
[06:09] <Pelo> LRP,  use nautilus to browse your way to the folder and make a bookmark
[06:09] <genii> Frog29: It is helpful to know at the exact point which failure occurs. eg: during grub, during loading initrd, or mounting root   etc etc
[06:10] <LRP> Pelo: what is nautilus?
[06:10] <neozen> hagabaka: I just use the standard ubuntu repos ... they provide all that I might need
[06:10] <Frog29> genii - about 1-2 bars into the ubuntu start it gives me a tty error sometihng about not being able to boot to it... and its during... (hold on restarting latop to it)
[06:10] <Flannel> hagabaka: It is not canonical.  It's Joao Pinto, whomever he is.
[06:10] <neozen> LRP: its the filemanager for ubuntu
[06:10] <neozen> !nautilus
[06:10] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[06:10] <Pelo> LRP,  just click on "my computer"  in places and start from there
[06:10] <Pelo> LRP,  nautilus is just the file manager in ubuntu
[06:11] <genii> Frog29: OK
[06:11] <LRP> Pelo: okay, so there's no way to make it like another drive icon? Isn't it just another filesystem?
[06:12] <Pelo> LRP,  it's just a folder
[06:12] <LRP> Pelo: gotcha, I'm still thinking like a windows user, my bad
[06:13] <Pelo> LRP,  if it were mounted in /media/ I think it would appear along side the cdrom and such but it would also appear on your desktop
[06:13] <Frog29> Genii - the meesage is after grub, and the screen has busybox at the top, then "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" and then it has a prompt "(initramfs)"
[06:13] <Pelo> LRP,  we'll beat the windows out of you soon enough
[06:13] <flake> can i add a host name like my windows machines display?
[06:13] <grndslm> anyone have problems with keystrokes repeating a lot?  only experienced this on my asus z35f laptop...i've installed edgy on at least 5 or 6 separate desktops before without trouble but never experienced this
[06:13] <flake> e2j7ms51
[06:13] <genii> Frog29: Ouch, a tricky one
[06:14] <Frog29> Genii and some mroe background - this is dual boot, i isntalled ubuntu 6.1 and i have a seperate boot partition
[06:14] <flake> dern cat
[06:14] <flake> sry
[06:14] <billy> is there a way to block internet sites from seeing my IP address?
[06:14] <LRP> Pelo: gotcha, I hope you make it quick though :),
[06:14] <Pelo> grndslm,  you can adjust the key repeat speed in  >system>`prefs > keyboard
[06:14] <scFrAcTAL_> proxy
[06:14] <scFrAcTAL_> anyone know how to build a live cd?
[06:15] <LRP> Pelo: would it have been better to mount it in media?
[06:15] <Frog29> i had a few problems with grub though, i never isntalled it in the first install, so i went back, skiped the isntall, and just wen to the grub install and got it working after  a lot more, but then it sends me to this screen, which i think is in ubuntu
[06:15] <Flannel> scFrAcTAL_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[06:15] <scFrAcTAL_> thanks flannel
[06:15] <grndslm> Pelo...sorry, my problem is with keystrokes repeating at random times when my keys aren't even being pressed...that was the clincher
[06:15] <billy> scFrAcTAL_: was "proxy" a response to me?
[06:15] <Frog29> genii- the thing is i know ubuntu can boot! becasue as i said it did right after grub isntall, before grub errors
[06:15] <scFrAcTAL_> no, to billy
[06:15] <scFrAcTAL_> billy: is there a way to block internet sites from seeing my IP address?
[06:15] <Absolute0> i got dsl what app connects me to the internet at boot?
[06:16] <Pelo> LRP,  not realy,  in most linux distros,  stuff gets mounted in /mnt/  , in ubuntu they added  /media/ with instructions to add an icon on the desktop,  just a little more mac like ,
[06:16] <scFrAcTAL_> :)
[06:16] <Frog29> Genii - if you look it up online there are a few posts aobut extra hardware, but i have only one sata drive on a laptop
[06:16] <mobomelter> alright later all. thanks for your help!
[06:16] <flake> sudo bin/hostname newname  ?  to change the default host name from (NULL) to the new name?
[06:16] <Flannel> !hostname | flake
[06:16] <Pelo> grndslm,  sounds like a borked keyboard to me
[06:16] <ubotu> flake: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[06:16] <genii> Frog29: I am thinking actually that your initrd was not installed correctly
[06:16] <grndslm> Pelo:  no, it only happens in linux
[06:16] <Pelo> LRP,  http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84 http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[06:16] <Frog29> genii - what would i do about that?
[06:16] <flake> ok ty
[06:17] <Pelo> grndslm,   usb keyboard ?
[06:17] <Frog29> anythings worht a try
[06:17] <grndslm> Pelo: laptop
[06:17] <genii> Frog29: Do you have the CD you installed from?
[06:17] <Frog29> yes
[06:17] <Pelo> grndslm,  I'd suggest you try looking it up in the forum
[06:17] <Frog29> Genii - it was alternate
[06:18] <Frog29> Genii - i also have full acess to the filesystem
[06:18] <genii> Frog29: Ah, so then you did like: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop     after?
[06:18] <Frog29> noooooooooo..........
[06:18] <gravemind> how can I change the "environment variable" for sometihng
[06:18] <gravemind> for example the environment variable SNES9X_ROM_DIR
[06:18] <Frog29> Genii - but i did get to the full desktop and everything.... that's what's so mindboggling
[06:18] <Frog29> otherwise i'd think it was a bad install
[06:19] <Frog29> garg
[06:19] <LRP> Pelo: dude, I love the synopsis on the second one
[06:19] <vexati0n> is there ever going to be a freenx-server for ubuntu :/
[06:19] <genii> Are you sure it just wasn'tloading the old install?
[06:19] <Frog29> yea..
[06:19] <Frog29> the old isntall was wipid im pretty sure and it had fancy new things
[06:20] <Frog29> Genii - and it couldn't of since that area was split and resized
[06:20] <_seanc_> Hey guys, stupid question.  After an install what's the first username? :)
[06:20] <l90bpm> quick question:    dvd::rip  install or leave it?
[06:20] <takesinn> Ey
[06:20] <takesinn> Whats the best image editor?
[06:21] <muddy> Can someone help me, I am having a VERY serious install issue.....
[06:21] <bluecat9> _seanc_, you should have created the 1st user name during installation? :)
[06:21] <LRP> Pelo: how do I find out about installing codecs so i can play DVD's, and also I need to know how to install programs, I downloaded the new version of GAIM, in .rpm format but have no idea what to do with it now
[06:21] <Squeee> Is there support for 802.11n in linux yet?
[06:21] <Pelo> LRP,  that is the best link I have ,  I always refer to it, one of my big scare when switching  was that I'd been using dos/windows for ever so I always had cli to fall back on , but I didn'T know how to in linux,  that link was priceless
[06:21] <Pelo> !restricted | LRP
[06:21] <ubotu> LRP: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <NickGarvey> muddy: details?
[06:22] <Pelo> LRP, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[06:22] <Squeee> would this be supported? http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=299617#
[06:22] <grndslm> anyone have problems with keystrokes repeating on a laptop every hour or two (seems tied to my hard drive having seek or writing) after the key has been released?  i've only experienced this on my asus z35f laptop...i've installed edgy on at least 5 or 6 separate desktops before without trouble but never experienced this
[06:22] <Pelo> LRP,  rpm are no good for  ubuntu,  you want  deb files
[06:22] <_seanc_> bluecat9: I don't remember doing that, last time there was a basic name to login with and then I had to run some command and create a user
[06:23] <Pelo> Squeee,  your best bet is to look up the model in the forum
[06:23] <muddy> Ok, I can run the program on the CD just fine, but when I try to do ANYTHING regarding the partition, it locks up and I have to start all over.  I tried the noacpi thing with no results.  I need help because this is the only OS I have.
[06:23] <genii_> Bah ghosted
[06:23] <Pelo> muddy,  what are you trying to do with partition ?
[06:24] <muddy> Nothing....that's the thing, if I try to just let it set the partition, it locks up, if I try to format the entire drive, it locks and if I try the manual partition, it locks
[06:24] <bluecat9> _seanc_, if it was an "oem install" the default user name is "ubuntu"
[06:24] <genii> Frog29: Did you get my last question about grub?
[06:24] <_seanc_> I swear I tried that...
[06:25] <bluecat9> :)
[06:25] <Frog29> no.................
[06:25] <_seanc_> bluecat9: What is the command you run once you're satisfied?
[06:25] <genii> Frog29: When you put grub on later (after not installing it the first time) how was this done and what partition/drive did you put it to?
[06:25] <Pelo> muddy,  is there anything on that drive ?
[06:25] <muddy> Not that I am aware of
[06:25] <LRP> Pelo: okay, I will check those out, thanks for all the tips, what did that mean " !restricted | LRP "
[06:25] <Frog29> i put it onot a spererate boot partition
[06:25] <Pelo> muddy,   run  gparted from the live cd and free up the entire partition
[06:25] <genii> Frog29: because for instance grub-install /dev/hda3   for instance wipes out the partition table of hda3
[06:26] <Frog29> i jumped thorugh the isntall fro mthe alrternate by pressing escape and only filling in anything required
[06:26] <muddy> <----complete n00b......how do I do that exactly, once I leave here, I can't just come back and ask.....that's what sucks
[06:26] <Pelo> LRP,  that was a trigger for the bot to print the information given to you by uboto afterward
[06:26] <Frog29> i had partition problems but i fixed them
[06:27] <Pelo> muddy,   gparted is pretty self explanatory,  you'll find it in  menu > system > admin > gparted ( or partition manager or editor )
[06:27] <muddy> ok,
[06:27] <Frog29> genii - right now i'm pretty sure that grub is on the correct partition pointing to the correct partition
[06:28] <muddy> I am there....now what
[06:28] <xipietotec> !webcam
[06:28] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:28] <genii> Frog29: Well, if it is at this point only the initrd that is messy it can be fixed. Tho yer mileage may vary
[06:28] <Pelo> muddy,  select your hdd
[06:28] <Frog29> henii - how would i go about doing that?
[06:28] <muddy> ok
[06:28] <Pelo> muddy,  is it already partitioned ?
[06:29] <muddy> there are 3, 2 of them are 2.70 GB the other is 111 GB
[06:29] <ubernewb> hey all, i'm trying to use dpkg-reconfigure locales and it's failing my edgy chroot environement
[06:29] <Pelo> muddy,  how many os do you want on this hdd ?
[06:29] <muddy> just this one
[06:30] <Pelo> muddy,  do you know if there is anything on those partitions that you need to keep ?
[06:30] <W4nnabe> hello.  i just installed ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server. can anyone tell me how to start up my gui?
[06:30] <muddy> no idea
[06:30] <Frog29> *genii - how would i go about fixing my initrd?
[06:30] <Pelo> muddy,  was that hdd empty before you got started ?
[06:30] <elektro82> W4nnabe: try startx...
[06:30] <iceghost> W4nnabe: how about startx
[06:30] <lHck> any happy ubuntu user was a gentoo user ?
[06:30] <drcode> hi all
[06:30] <genii> Frog29: The basic idea then is to use the livecd, boot to it, then mount the partition containing the / you installed to, chroot there and then do a reinstall of the kernel image
[06:30] <iceghost> nice timing elektro82
[06:30] <W4nnabe> nope
[06:30] <elektro82> lol thx
[06:31] <genii> Frog29: Pls have patience, this old laptop is barely running Feisty :)
[06:31] <drcode> when I do "lspci" it take what bios recognize?
[06:31] <Pelo> muddy,  was that hdd empty before you got started ?
[06:31] <drcode> right?
[06:31] <muddy> No
[06:31] <Frog29> genii - ok, just wasn't sure if you got it since i worte henii or something :)
[06:31] <muddy> It had windows on it and all my misc. shit
[06:31] <drcode> or what kernel recognize?
[06:31] <mzuverink> my intel 915 uses up to 128 meg system ram on demand, it has no ram of its own.  i am running the xserer dpkg reconfigure command and want to know if i can force dedication of 128 megs by indicating so in the xserver reconfigure dialogue
[06:32] <Pelo> muddy,  please use my nick when replaying to me ,  do you know which partiton you windows is on ?
[06:32] <ubernewb> do i need to bind my directories /hom/tmp/dev/proc/media/fonts in a chroot environement.. even if i don't want to
[06:32] <Frog29> genii - is it possible to do that just byy having full write acess to the / partition?
[06:32] <lHck> Pelo, what irc client are you using ?
[06:32] <Pelo> lHck,  xchat
[06:32] <muddy> Pelo, No I don't....like I said, complete noob
[06:33] <genii> Frog29: You need to chroot there do this particular operation
[06:33] <Pelo> muddy,  did you backup your windows stuff ?
[06:33] <muddy> .......no......
[06:33] <Frog29> hmmm ok
[06:33] <lHck> can xchat running bot ?
[06:33] <lHck> Pelo, can it run script ?
[06:33] <Frog29> genii - so do i need to get a version of the ubuntu full? (i have alternate)
[06:33] <gravemind> what file do I edit to set environmental variables?
[06:33] <Pelo> muddy,   ok I don't want to freak you out , but you might want to reboot your windows and backup your shit first
[06:34] <grndslm> Frog29:  most find the desktop version much quicker if you have the ram
[06:34] <genii> Frog29: Well, full livecd would be best. I forget offhand if alternate has live boot on it
[06:34] <W4nnabe> elektro82, iceghost...it's a fresh install, and my only command has been as follows http://pastebin.ca/411642
[06:34] <grndslm> but either will install just fine
[06:34] <Pelo> lHck,  I know it can run scripts,  in pearl or in python,   but I don't do it myself
[06:34] <W4nnabe> startx failed
[06:34] <muddy> IPelo, It won't.    I tried re-installing windows, it ain't happenin.....
[06:34] <Pelo> muddy,  ok so your stuff is lost , I hope you had copies
[06:35] <muddy> not much...
[06:35] <elektro82> W4nnabe: what was the error?
[06:35] <Frog29> genii - ok - i might as well ask, is there an online guide somehwere?
[06:35] <genii> Frog29: Did you have a separate /boot partition?
[06:35] <muddy> I just want to get something installed so I don't have a 1500 dollar paperweight
[06:35] <W4nnabe> startx: command not found
[06:35] <Pelo> muddy,  before we go on , do you need to try and recover your windows stuff or are you resgined to having lost it ?
[06:35] <Frog29> yes genii
[06:35] <muddy> Pelo, I lost it.....Yeah
[06:36] <Pelo> muddy,  ok,   do you still want to install windows as well ?
[06:36] <muddy> Pelo, No
[06:36] <elektro82> W4nnabe: i guess that doesn't cover the X packages, u must just have a base system at this point
[06:36] <Pelo> muddy,  so the whole hdd for ubuntu ?
[06:36] <muddy> Yeah
[06:36] <Pelo> muddy,  ok  all those partitions you see,   delete them
[06:36] <Pelo> muddy,  use rightclick
[06:36] <muddy> Done.
[06:37] <gravemind> hey does anybody know where I can set environmental variables? THere's a file somewhere
[06:37] <Ben> Why would 'apt-get update' be trying to use some au. sources for its update when there is no mention of anything au. in my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:37] <J-_> gah, is there a plugin for firefox2.0 to see what colour a specific colour is in a layout that'll work with linux?
[06:37] <Pelo> muddy,  well set you right from the get go ,   make a new partition 10 gig , format it ntfs
[06:37] <muddy> So it says 111.79 GB unallocated
[06:37] <Pelo> muddy,  sorry  I mean format it ext3
[06:38] <Pelo> muddy,  add a parttion 10 gig  ext3
[06:38] <genii> Frog29: The basic instructions in a nutshell:  boot to livecd. mount partition eg: mkdir /mnt/old     mount /dev/<partitionname> /mnt/old   chroot /mnt/old   mount /boot   apt-get install kernel-image-`uname -r`
[06:38] <W4nnabe> elektro82: actually i take back what i said about not running anything else, i also installed appache via apt-get.  if i didn't install xserver, what did i install under ubuntu-desktop?
[06:38] <Pelo> muddy, that partition we will use to install ubuntu on it ,  we'll also make a swap partiton and a partition for your home folder
[06:38] <W4nnabe> apache runs
[06:39] <genii> Frog29: I haven't found an online tutorial of this and don't have the patience atm to search :)
[06:39] <Frog29> k
[06:39] <mindstate> anyone familiar with postfix MTA ?
[06:39] <muddy> Pelo, I click new and then select the size...10gb roight?
[06:39] <Pelo> muddy,  yes
[06:39] <Frog29> so genii - where are ther line breaks?
[06:39] <elektro82> W4nnabe: i did ubuntu-desktop and got gui...did you install with main or alternate cd? (not sure if it matters, i used the main one, the livecd)
[06:40] <Pelo> muddy,  what would be 10240 mb
[06:40] <muddy> Pelo, Primary partition or extension
[06:40] <Frog29> i'm not too sure aobut my linux commands
[06:40] <Pelo> muddy,  primary
[06:40] <W4nnabe> elektro82: i used the dvd...3
[06:41] <britt> could someone recmmend some GUI program to normalize my MP3 collection?
[06:41] <genii> Frog29:
[06:41] <genii> mkdir /mnt/old
[06:41] <W4nnabe> elektro82:* i used the dvd...2.6.15-26-server
[06:41] <genii> mount /dev/<partitionname> /mnt/old
[06:41] <genii> chroot /mnt/old
[06:41] <genii> mount /boot
[06:41] <genii> apt-get install kernel-image-`uname -r`h
[06:41] <elektro82> W4nnabe: i wonder if it didn't detect your video card and hence skipped x...
[06:41] <Frog29> aha!
[06:41] <genii> Sorry for multiline, neccesay for clarity
[06:41] <Frog29> thank you good sir
[06:41] <muddy> Ok, so now I have 3 lines
[06:41] <Frog29> :)
[06:41] <W4nnabe> elektro82: maybe
[06:41] <elektro82> W4nnabe: oh and i used the desktop edition...
[06:41] <Pelo> muddy,  the two other lines are what ?
[06:41] <Frog29> now how do i copy it :D
[06:41] <W4nnabe> ohok
[06:41] <Frog29> i'll get it in a sec
[06:42] <britt> could someone recmmend some GUI program to normalize my MP3 collection?
[06:42] <W4nnabe> anybody here familiar with ubuntu 2.6.15-26-server?
[06:42] <Pelo> muddy,  do you mean 3 lines at the botttom in the command box ?  on remove , one pattiont table one new partition ?
[06:42] <W4nnabe> i need to get a gui
[06:42] <muddy> Pelo, top is 10 gb, unallocated, middle is 101.78gb ext3 and bottom is 12.78gb unallocated
[06:42] <Flannel> W4nnabe: what sort of GUI?
[06:42] <kummi> hello. where i am ?
[06:42] <W4nnabe> kde or xwindows
[06:43] <Flannel> W4nnabe: Ubuntu server is just normal Ubuntu, but with a server kernel.  You have all the packages of normal ubuntu.
[06:43] <Pelo> muddy,  wtf
[06:43] <genii> Frog29: Make sure to remove the stray h at the end of the last post, it was a typo
[06:43] <Flannel> W4nnabe: install the 'kubuntu-desktop' to get Kubuntu
[06:43] <Pelo> muddy,  before you added the partion I told you , how many lines did you have ?
[06:43] <muddy> Pelo, IDK
[06:43] <Frog29> k
[06:43] <W4nnabe> Flannel: i already installed that...what command starts kubuntu?
[06:44] <Flannel> W4nnabe: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[06:44] <Flannel> W4nnabe: you might have to ctrl-alt-f7
[06:44] <Pelo> muddy,   mp
[06:44] <muddy> I added ONE (1) partition after deleting all the others, when I added the 10 gb partition, I ended up with 3, the ext3 partition is 101 gb
[06:44] <Frog29> thanks... i'll try this tomoorow when i get a change i have to go soon
[06:44] <Pelo> I mean muddy pm
[06:44] <muddy> ok
[06:44] <Flannel> W4nnabe: also, you'll probably notice a bit of latency.  Because the server kernel doesn't PREEMPT.  If it bugs you, install the non-server kernel (generic)
[06:44] <Frog29> wait... can i use a knoppix disk?
[06:44] <genii> Frog29: Anyhow, this will definitely fix the initrd. If boot still fails it is some other issue
[06:45] <Frog29> ok genii - thanks
[06:45] <genii> Frog29: Yup any livecd will work
[06:46] <W4nnabe> Flannel: i just get "command not found"
[06:46] <Flannel> W4nnabe: you're sure you installed 'kubuntu-desktop'?
[06:46] <genii> Frog29: It occurs to me that you may need to put apt-get update   before the last line
[06:46] <Frog29> genii - random - will teh linux system recue cd work?
[06:47] <W4nnabe> Flannel: i ran `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`
[06:47] <Flannel> W4nnabe: oh.  Ubuntu, that's gdm not kdm.  But that's gnome, not KDE
[06:47] <W4nnabe> Flannel: it didn't return an error
[06:47] <genii> Frog29: So long as you can boot into linux off a cd and your network is recognised to use the apt-get install  it should work
[06:47] <Flannel> W4nnabe: `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start`
[06:47] <Frog29> oh darn - and my network is recognized?
[06:47] <meme-1> Oh.. this one is gonna cause some trouble, I can just see it.. LOL   Anyhow... one of the things I miss about Windows is not having access to umm... Internet Explorer. Why?  Because not a single day goes by where I encounter a website that isn't compatible with Firefox. The latest is: http://www.samsungsupport.com/cyber/index.jsp... now go ahead... flame me... I'm ready! lol
[06:47] <Arrick> you guys want to know something
[06:48] <Flannel> Arrick: please troll elsewhere
[06:48] <meme-1> I'm actually looking for workable suggestions.
[06:48] <Frog29> genii - well i'll just try and get the ubuntu desktop full :)
[06:48] <meme-1> I need to get on to the Samsung support page.
[06:48] <W4nnabe> Flannel: still get "command not found"
[06:49] <genii> Frog29: Thats probably the best solution for this situation
[06:49] <RoundyT1> i need some help writing permissions
[06:49] <Arrick> Flannel after trying every US mirror, for ubuntu, I find that the first one outside the US download faster then the ones in the US
[06:49] <Frog29> ok
[06:49] <{NewMoon}> hey
[06:49] <{NewMoon}> lol
[06:49] <RoundyT1> i need to give permission to a folder....write permissions
[06:49] <Flannel> W4nnabe: What version of ubuntu are you running?  Dapper or Edgy?
[06:49] <RoundyT1> via command line
[06:49] <genii> RoundyT1: Is the folder owned by a user?
[06:49] <Arrick> and Flannel I try not to troll, thanks though
[06:50] <RoundyT1> genii, how do i check
[06:50] <{NewMoon}> haha
[06:50] <Flannel> Arrick: you were trolling earlier this afternoon.
[06:50] <dougb> does anyone know how to get an XBOX 360 gamepad to work with ubuntu?
[06:50] <RoundyT1> dougb, google it
[06:50] <{NewMoon}> wow a stalker
[06:50] <W4nnabe> Flannel:dapper
[06:50] <genii> RoundyT1: the command:  ls -l <foldername> should say owner and group
[06:50] <RoundyT1> says permission denied
[06:50] <W4nnabe> Flannel:there's nothing in /etc/init.d that looks like any gui either
[06:50] <Arrick> uhmm, Flannel there is a difference between trolling and being completely ignored, and getting ticked off.
[06:50] <RoundyT1> and that's running chmod
[06:51] <RoundyT1> sudo
[06:51] <Flannel> W4nnabe: gdm or kdm?  If you successfully installed ubuntu-desktop, then you successfully installed gdm, which means you should have /etc/init.d/gdm
[06:51] <Flannel> RoundyT1: which folder is it?
[06:51] <dougb> RoundyT1: what is the purpose of googling it if this is the room to get knowledge on ubuntu?
[06:52] <genii> Flannel Yes, I'm thinking it's some system folder and not a subdir of ~/
[06:53] <kummi> ubuntu?
[06:53] <kummi> gh
[06:53] <RoundyT1> dougb,  because i've asked questions like that and people got pissed cause its not supported by "Ubuntu Support"
[06:53] <zcat[1] > anybody know how I can get from a single mp3 and cue file to individual tracks without burning a CD and ripping it again?
[06:53] <W4nnabe> Flannel: there's nothing like that in that folder. `locate` returns nothing for kdm or gdm
[06:53] <mindstate> anyone familiar with postfix?
[06:53] <RoundyT1> Flannel, its dokuwiki
[06:53] <Flannel> Arrick: fair enough.  But waiting five minutes is hardly ignored.
[06:54] <Flannel> W4nnabe: there's nothing in /etc/init.d?
[06:54] <Flannel> RoundyT1: so, where's the folder?
[06:54] <genii> RoundyT1: So some path like /opt/docuwiki   or /var/www/docuwiki ?
[06:54] <W4nnabe> Flannel: nothing w/ the expression gdm or kdm
[06:54] <RoundyT1> /var/www/roundy/dokuwiki
[06:54] <Flannel> W4nnabe: go ahead and install the `gdm` package. see if it helps.
[06:55] <genii> Hmm not a good folder to share
[06:55] <W4nnabe> Flannel: so `sudo apt-get install gdm` ?
[06:55] <Flannel> W4nnabe: yeah
[06:55] <Arrick> Flannel what all you know about installing apache on the 6.10 server, or does it come with the lamp option on boot?
[06:56] <Flannel> Arrick: There's a LAMP install option on the server CD.  Although installing it manually isn't difficult either.
[06:56] <RoundyT1> Arrick, ya, lamp is on 6.10 i have it installed
[06:56] <zcat[1] > found it myself; mp3splt .. it even reads from a cue file.
[06:56] <RoundyT1> Flannel, its /var/www/roundy/dokuwiki
[06:56] <kraut> moin
[06:57] <genii> RoundyT1: All the files in those subdirs should be owned recursively by user www-root group www-root
[06:57] <Arrick> yeah, i installed it on breezy before, but this is the first time I've used the newer distro's Flannel
[06:57] <Flannel> genii, RoundyT1, www-data not www-root
[06:57] <genii> Flannel Yes, my bad
[06:57] <W4nnabe> Flannel: installing...
[06:57] <Arrick> I know that the 6.06.1 server is bad juju
[06:57] <genii> Flannel Smack me now and then to wake me up please :)
[06:58] <Flannel> Arrick: right.  Well, the Alternate CD is identical to the old install CD.  If you use the alt CD to install a CLI box, then install LAMP, then switch to the server kernel, you'll have an identical install to the LAMP preinstall from the server CD
[06:58] <Flannel> Arrick: why?  What's wrong with Dappers server CD?
[06:58] <Arrick> Flannel it doesnt work
[06:58] <Arrick> it gets to the install point, and dies on whatever I try to install it on
[06:58] <Arrick> and it checks out as good
[06:58] <Flannel> Arrick: I doubt that.  But, I don't have firsthand experience with it.  As I have no use for the server kernel.
[06:58] <genii> Works fine for me on several boxes
[06:59] <neozen> meeples
[06:59] <RoundyT1> genii, so why isn't it working the "install.php" for dokuwiki?
[06:59] <{NewMoon}> arrick you're a liar
[07:00] <Arrick> {NewMoon} no I'm not
[07:00] <RoundyT1> Arrick, try connecting to the internet first
[07:00] <{NewMoon}> he's been going to #freebsd and saying the same crap
[07:00] <Arrick> I've only tried the one so far from it
[07:00] <{NewMoon}> you claimed ubuntu worked for you
[07:00] <Arrick> {NewMoon} I installed ubuntu first, and was told the freebsd would work better for me so I switched
[07:00] <genii> RoundyT1: If the ownership is correct (www-data) on all the folders recursively it is in, then you may need an entry for apache(2)
[07:01] <creedo> can i install it to vmware workstation?.
[07:01] <Arrick> yeah, ubuntu breezy
[07:01] <RoundyT1> genii,  lol ...crap
[07:01] <neozen> yes... I know there's another room for feisty
[07:02] <root_> hay
[07:02] <root_> whats going on
[07:02] <Flannel> root_: You shouldn't be on IRC as root.
[07:02] <Arrick> {NewMoon} I happen to have about 60 of the ubuntu breezy cd's here, as well as the dapper desktop, however, i was attempting to use freebsd because I was told it would better suit my needs.
[07:02] <neozen> lol
[07:02] <neozen> Arrick: lol
[07:02] <phxheat> how do i remove apache2? apt-get doesnt seem to be doing it right?
[07:03] <{NewMoon}> sounds like a computer problem to me
[07:03] <RoundyT1> phxheat, sudo apt-get rm ?
[07:03] <Flannel> phxheat: you need to remove apache2-common, for the bulk of it
[07:03] <mbdl> i cant drag and drop in Nautilus... how can i get it working
[07:03] <root_> does any one have experience with socet programming
[07:04] <Arrick> yea, it does to me too {NewMoon} lets see, W2k3 Server, Ubuntu Breezy, Ubuntu Dapper Desktop, XP Pro, all install fine, but its a computer problem alright.
[07:04] <genii> RoundyT1: The file with those kinds of entries is usually in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default  or so
[07:04] <Arrick> lol
[07:05] <W4nnabe> Flannel: ok, so it got done, i ran /etc/init.d/gdm, and i got pastebin.ca/411675.   now i'll say yes and report back what i get.
[07:05] <mbdl> HELP  i cant drag and drop in Nautilus... how can i get it working
[07:05] <Flannel> W4nnabe: Go ahead and try and install ubuntu-desktop again.  Something tells me it didn't get installed the first time.
[07:05] <phxheat> Flannel: that worked, but what about the files in /etc/apache2/ ... those remain... what is the proper way to remove those? ... im going to be installing apache from source and dont want any conflicts or remnants
[07:06] <Flannel> phxheat: Remove them with --purge
[07:06] <neozen> mbdl: drag and drop between two nautilus windows
[07:06] <Flannel> phxheat: apt-get remove --purge apache2-common, or in synaptic "complete removal"
[07:06] <Flannel> phxheat: it removes the config files as well as the packages.
[07:06] <mbdl> neozen: ya and i cant on the desktop
[07:06] <mbdl> move anyhitng
[07:06] <Flannel> phxheat: normal removal just removes all non-config stuff.
[07:06] <neozen> mbdl: open the desktop in a nautilus window as well
[07:07] <neozen> mbdl: lol
[07:07] <brophat> if I wanted to do a command that required root do I just do a "sudo command" ?
[07:07] <RoundyT1> so i i want to add write permissions to the dokuwiki folder....what do i type "sudo chmod ?????"
[07:07] <W4nnabe> Flannel: i'm pretty sure it did get installed, but ok... also the error is "X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting
[07:07] <mbdl> neozen: ok the me reprase... i cant drage anyhitng on the desktop or inside the explorer windows
[07:08] <Flannel> W4nnabe: right.  It looks like you don't have an Xserver.  Which, should've been installed with ubuntu-desktop (just like gdm)
[07:08] <mbdl> neozen: can u help?
[07:09] <phxheat> Flannel: 1 last newb q... i removed with purge but it wouldnt remove /etc/apache2/ since it has files in it (doing this all from console btw... this is ubuntu server)... whats the command to remove the dir?
[07:09] <Flannel> phxheat: hmm.  You might need to purge all the packages that deal with it (some other apache packages).  It *should* remove that directory automatically.
[07:10] <chipbuddy> how is everyone!
[07:10] <mbdl> CAN ANYONE HELP!!! i cant drag and or drop
[07:10] <RoundyT1> genii, so i i want to add write permissions to the dokuwiki folder....what do i type "sudo chmod ?????"
[07:10] <brophat> do I use the sudo command by simply putting sudo before the command I want to perform?
[07:10] <RoundyT1> brophat, that is correct
[07:11] <brophat> RoundyT1 does ubuntu have the alsaconf command?
[07:11] <W4nnabe> Flannel: maybe i'm confused...i thought xwindows and gnome were alternatives to one another, rather than being somehow one dependent on another....why would xwindows have even been starting if called gdm (gnome?)?
[07:11] <RoundyT1> brophat, lol now that...i couldn't answer...
[07:11] <genii> RoundyT1: You want users to directly edit things there not thru the web interface?
[07:11] <W4nnabe> Flannel: maybe i'm confused...i thought xwindows and gnome were alternatives to one another, rather than being somehow one dependent on another....why would xwindows have even been starting if *i called gdm (gnome?)?
[07:11] <Flannel> W4nnabe: The Xserver is the basic framework, that all GUI stuff is based on.  Gnome (well, part of gnome), creates windows ontop of that Xserver.
[07:11] <mbdl> NO WELL THANK YOU
[07:11] <RoundyT1> one sec genii
[07:12] <Flannel> W4nnabe: gdm is gnome display manager.  Not gnome itself.
[07:12] <chipbuddy> so... what's the difference between the freenode server and the ubuntu server server?
[07:12] <W4nnabe> Flannel: i see
[07:12] <Flannel> chipbuddy: They are one and the same.  irc.ubuntu.com connects to irc.freenode.com
[07:12] <brophat> RoundyT1 does sound sometimes need setup?
[07:12] <chipbuddy> huh... ok
[07:12] <chipbuddy> thanks
[07:13] <genii> RoundyT1: Because if it just gets properly setup for the web interface to work, you should not need to do any chmod on it. At this time you should likely do chown on it tho to the user:group www-data:www-data recursively
[07:14] <genii> RoundyT1: eg: sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/roundy
[07:15] <RoundyT1> brophat, sometimes...mine worked just fine (IBM thinkpad)
[07:15] <oscar> Somebody can help me to mount a ntfs partition in Ubuntu? The particion is mounted, aparently... but I can access that because a message say "Impossible to mount, error"
[07:16] <genii> When you try the web interface do you get some 400/500 error or does the php file come into the browser as text?
[07:16] <lHck> i mean i have a bootablecdrom on a remote pc, and the one need to boot can only do PXE, any one let me know how to boot usng the remote cdrom through PXE ?
[07:16] <brophat> volume control for G-Streamer cant find g-streamer or the sound card is not
[07:16] <brophat> configured. is whast is says when speaker icon on gnome desktop is clicked, any ideas?
[07:17] <hole> whats the command syntax to get my own help on stuff?
[07:17] <hole> fromthe bot
[07:17] <benplaut> !help
[07:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:17] <CoRnJuLiOx> is 6.10 a stable release?
[07:18] <Flannel> CoRnJuLiOx: yes
[07:18] <genii> hole first you should do something like:   /msg ubotu hello        and then he opens a PM box to you if your nick is registered on freenode
[07:18] <brophat> RoundyT1 what does one typically have to do if sound does not work out of the box?
[07:18] <hole> not registered
[07:19] <CoRnJuLiOx> Flannel: i'm having problems getting the 6.10 livecd to boot. i've tried it on two computers and whenever i try to 'start or install ubuntu' it either kernel panics or just sits there.
[07:19] <RoundyT1> brophat, what kind of machine are you on?
[07:19] <xavi> maybe the cd is bad
[07:19] <hole> anyone else here have nvidia geforce cards?
[07:19] <brophat> RoundyT1 not me it is my brother who is in another state. he is on a 1998 dell
[07:19] <RoundyT1> genii, http://pastebin.ca/411688
[07:19] <RoundyT1> Flannel, http://pastebin.ca/411688
[07:19] <xavi> yes, i have nvidia
[07:19] <genii> RoundyT1: OK, reading
[07:20] <CoRnJuLiOx> Flannel: i've posted pics of the error i get on the forums. lemme get a link
[07:20] <RoundyT1> brophat, one second...lemme see what i can do
[07:20] <Flannel> CoRnJuLiOx: did you check the CD for defects?
[07:20] <hole> please tellme how to make gl work i'm dying to play quake3 and 4
[07:20] <CoRnJuLiOx> Flannel: i've checked the CD, the md5, i even burned two CDs
[07:20] <CoRnJuLiOx> all is fine
[07:21] <Flannel> CoRnJuLiOx: Did you try the alternate CD?
[07:21] <RoundyT1> brophat, what is the model? of the dell?
[07:21] <genii> RoundyT1: Is there now a user "docuwiki" on your system? If so add them to the group www-data
[07:21] <CoRnJuLiOx> alternate CD?
[07:21] <brophat> RoundyT1 for example i know on slackware one would do an alsaconf
[07:21] <CoRnJuLiOx> Flannel: whats so different about the alternate CD?
[07:21] <Flannel> CoRnJuLiOx: it isn't a liveCD.  Just an installer.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/  scroll down
[07:22] <hole> !help nvidia
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help nvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <RoundyT1> brophat, well ubuntu is based off debian so maybe try googling the dell model and ubuntu/debian
[07:22] <brophat> RoundyT1 Dimension XPS R350
[07:22] <CoRnJuLiOx> Flannel: k. thanks
[07:22] <xavi> hole, sorry
[07:22] <RoundyT1> genii, how to check users?
[07:22] <xavi> i'm new at ubuntu
[07:22] <xavi> but i compiled the driver from nvidia's site
[07:22] <Flannel> RoundyT1: mediawiki or whatever runs on apache, right?  It's PHP or whatever?
[07:23] <xavi> and it works well with beryl
[07:23] <lkthomas> LOL
[07:23] <lkthomas> I got a hard time to get my HDD running under 40degree C
[07:23] <hole> xavi,why
[07:23] <RoundyT1> beryl = trouble
[07:23] <zachhale> is there a console.log
[07:23] <zachhale> or a log for all terminal sessions?
[07:23] <Flannel> RoundyT1: er, wait.  You installed this from the repositories?
[07:23] <genii> RoundyT1: I am normally doing this by vipw then exiting with :q!
[07:24] <[xelent] > Anyone know what media player this is http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/085/a/1/Linux_X_by_binyaryar.png
[07:24] <RoundyT1> Flannel, no. copied it to my server
[07:24] <genii> Tho if finger is installed on your box you could use that too
[07:24] <BeastlyKings> ok, my windows partition still won't boot, but i was wondering if I just cleared both of my lnux partitions and then reinstalled ubuntu... if grub would auto fix the prob by re-detecting the windows partition?
[07:24] <Flannel> RoundyT1: why don't you install the package from the repositories?
[07:25] <RoundyT1> Flannel, cause it's not always up-2-date. and its already installed where i need it to be installed
[07:25] <Flannel> RoundyT1: obviously, it's not installed properly ;)
[07:25] <BeastlyKings> ok, my windows partition still won't boot, but i was wondering if I just cleared both of my lnux partitions and then reinstalled ubuntu... if grub would auto fix the prob by re-detecting the windows partition?
[07:25] <RoundyT1> Flannel, only because it need permissions lol
[07:26] <BeastlyKings> would that fix the prob?
[07:26] <crdlb> [xelent] , you sure that's not some kind of mockup?
[07:26] <Art_Com> hi all
[07:26] <BeastlyKings> ok, my windows partition still won't boot, but i was wondering if I just cleared both of my lnux partitions and then reinstalled ubuntu... if grub would auto fix the prob by re-detecting the windows partition?
[07:26] <BeastlyKings> would that fix the prob?
[07:26] <RoundyT1> dual boot = should have windows installed FIRST then install ubuntu (i assume that's what you did) try reinstalling ubuntu---watch your partitions though
[07:26] <genii> RoundyT1: Anyhow, if the user exists then add the name to /etc/group on the line for www-data
[07:27] <BeastlyKings> K thanks
[07:27] <RoundyT1> genii, i've never even heard of www-data.
[07:27] <genii> RoundyT1: It's the user that webpages etc run as. Compartmentalisation
[07:28] <[xelent] > crdlb: not that i know of
[07:28] <RoundyT1> genii,  lol ok found...don't see dokuwiki
[07:28] <CoRnJuLiOx> Flannel: about that alternate CD, you think i'll run into the kernel panic issue after i've installed 6.10?
[07:29] <genii> RoundyT1: OK I'll try to look up what user it should be for that app
[07:29] <RoundyT1> genii, gee thanks
[07:29] <|Amon|> how do I run a scan of my hardware to see if ubuntu sees my sound card? shouldn't lspci do it?
[07:30] <|Amon|> the problem im having is that i have an onboard sound card as well as a pci one, and i have disabled the onboard sound card. it was set to enabled in bios when i was installing ubuntu so i think the installation process ignored my pci sound card.
[07:30] <chipbuddy> so check this out. about 2 weeks ago i decided to install ubuntu to move away from windows. so i installed edgy and everything went fairly well. except for the life of me i could not get my ati card to play nice. so just tonight i decided to install feisty, and now glxinfo tells me direct rendering is on, and glxgears isn't slow as a pig
[07:31] <bayziders> How do I find my defualt gateway?
[07:31] <crdlb> chipbuddy, which ati card?
[07:31] <RoundyT1> chipbuddy, so it turned out good?
[07:31] <Flannel> CoRnJuLiOx: probably not
[07:31] <chipbuddy> radeon x800
[07:31] <Flannel> RoundyT1: What perms are those directories?  644?
[07:31] <chipbuddy> yeah. i'm really happy. i'm going to go for beryl a little later tonight
[07:32] <|Amon|> anybody
[07:32] <CoRnJuLiOx> Flannel: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387246
[07:32] <CoRnJuLiOx> with picutres
[07:32] <|Amon|> chipbuddy, beryl is sweet
[07:32] <RoundyT1> Flannel, dude, i couldn't tell you... im a noob?
[07:32] <dwokm> hey..how do you stop apache from logging certain things..like certain ips, or certain referrals..or from certain rewrites ????
[07:32] <chipbuddy> amon are you running it on feisty or edgy?
[07:32] <|Amon|> 6.06
[07:32] <Flannel> RoundyT1: ls -al, tell me the string of rwxrwx--- sorts of things.
[07:32] <|Amon|> er no its 6.10 my bad
[07:33] <bayziders> Any one?
[07:33] <Flannel> dwokm: you might ask in #apache
[07:33] <hagabaka> in Ubuntu Edgy the latest version for xorg-driver-fglrx is 7.1.0-8.28.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-11.2. is that 7.1.0 or 8.28.8? http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_fglrx seems to refer to versions over 8.x
[07:33] <RoundyT1> Flannel, d--x--x--x 3 roundy roundy   4096 2007-03-26 22:25 dokuwiki
[07:34] <|Amon|> i just want to see if it sees my card *at all* so i can figure out which driver to install
[07:34] <|Amon|> its not in lspci
[07:34] <aegisthis> hi there can ne1 give me a hand finding a deleted file? not finding as in restoring but finding as in deleted the file via a sudo nautilus session but it has not reclaimed the space off the disk
[07:34] <link> hello, after I install vnc4server, how do I configure it to run from the termina;?
[07:35] <dwokm> Flannel, i have been..seems dead
[07:36] <|Amon|> aegisthis, how did you 'delete' the file
[07:36] <link> can someone help me with vnc4server?
[07:36] <genii> RoundyT1: OK, according to it's docs it should already run as webserver user. So:  sudo chmod -R +w /var/www/roundy should do it.You will need to restart apache by  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:37] <brophat> what is the player called for mp3 that is loaded with ubuntu?
[07:38] <Gandor> maybe rhythmbox
[07:38] <roflcar> brophat: I'd install amarok, it's my favorite
[07:39] <genii> RoundyT1: If the above does not work you may need also to make all the php files executable.This would be done so:   sudo chmod -R +x /var/www/roundy/*.php      then the restart line again for apache2
[07:39] <brophat> roflcar i need to know what comes installed with ubuntu
[07:39] <aegisthis> |Amon|, sorry, problem solved, found in /root/.Trash folder
[07:40] <|Amon|> ok np
[07:40] <|Amon|> how do i find out about my sound card issue
[07:40] <RoundyT1> genii, The datadir does not exist, isn't accessable or writable. You should check your config and permission settings. Or maybe you want to run the installer?
[07:41] <genii> RoundyT1: We are approaching 777 permissions already ROFL
[07:42] <jakeyfu> hi
[07:42] <jakeyfu> anyone is here?
[07:42] <RoundyT1> well crap
[07:43] <fogobogo> hi! how can i uninstall something that was made with make install?
[07:43] <jakeyfu> make unistall
[07:43] <chatzilla> a y menya windows xp...
[07:43] <genii> RoundyT1: It seems to be running the php file now tho?
[07:43] <jakeyfu> @fogobogo:make uninstall
[07:43] <fogobogo> no reaction
[07:44] <RoundyT1> genii, roundy@ubuntu:~$ ls /var/www/roundy/dokuwiki
[07:44] <RoundyT1> ls: /var/www/roundy/dokuwiki: Permission denied
[07:44] <chipbuddy> holy crap... i just installed beryl... i'm so happy
[07:44] <chipbuddy> except... i can't seem to move or resize windows
[07:44] <jakeyfu> @fogobogo:you'd better read the readme.txt file
[07:44] <fogobogo> jakeyfu all i get is.../configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --mandir=/usr/share/man
[07:44] <chipbuddy> oh wait... no... i can resize them... i just can't move them
[07:44] <chatzilla> Windows XP!!!
[07:44] <chipbuddy> ... um... nevermind... i figured it out
[07:45] <Gandor> lol
[07:45] <fogobogo> sorry all i get is make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[07:45] <mzuverink> when you are running beryl with the window preview option/thumbnailer thing that shows a small popup image when you hover over the panel, it pops up both the name of the window like it does normally in metacity(with the yellow background) and then the thumbnail prewiew from beryl.  How do I disable gnome-panel from poping up the preview metacity style(the yellow one)?
[07:45] <chatzilla> MS vseh kupit!!!
[07:45] <genii> RoundyT1: Well, that is good. The regular user shouldn't be able to see there without sudo
[07:45] <chipbuddy> jlsadjflksdj
[07:45] <chipbuddy> weeee
[07:45] <RoundyT1> genii, lol k
[07:45] <Flannel> RoundyT1: that's your problem.  You want 744 probably.  Maybe 755.
[07:46] <|Amon|> why are yall so unwilling to help with a sound card problem?
[07:46] <jakeyfu> @fogobogo:why don't you read the readme.txt
[07:46] <RoundyT1> roundy@ubuntu:~$ sudo ls /var/www/roundy/dokuwiki
[07:46] <RoundyT1> dokuwiki-2006-11-06  dokuwiki-2006-11-06.tgz
[07:46] <fogobogo> i did!
[07:46] <jakeyfu> That maybe help you
[07:46] <|Amon|> ive came back like 3 different days and no one has helped with this...
[07:46] <genii> RoundyT1: Well, if you want o go whole-hog at this point, then do: sudo chmod -R +rwx /var/www/roundy
[07:46] <chatzilla> problem...problems...in Windows NO problems...
[07:46] <mzuverink> the yellow popup interferes(covers) part of the preview thumbnail.  Its not a major issue, just not sightly.  I checked all over gconf but saw no mention of gnome-panel
[07:47] <genii> RoundyT1: then restart apache of course again etc etc
[07:47] <RoundyT1> won't that be bad?
[07:47] <RoundyT1> genii,  isn't that bad?
[07:48] <RoundyT1> genii,  meaning -- security risk?
[07:48] <genii> RoundyT1: Well the www-data user should be the only one ideally with full perms in those subdirs (and root)
[07:49] <mzuverink> |Amon|, what kind of sound card and what is the issue?  Sorry I was not here earlier to see what you stated.
[07:49] <genii> RoundyT1: If it works you can fiddle with individual file permissions later to tweak it if you have the patience
[07:50] <fogobogo> Hi! I made a nice build with configure, make etcetc. only problem to me is that it doesnt appear in aptitude and / or synaptic for unistall. any suggestions?
[07:50] <|Amon|> RoundyT1, www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh is what's in your /etc/passwd which means that only www-data can read+write to /www/ as well as root
[07:50] <oem> a
[07:50] <[xelent] > Robin Witch Hunter
[07:50] <|Amon|> mzuverink,  the problem im having is that i have an onboard sound card as well as a pci one, and i have disabled the onboard sound card. it was set to enabled in bios when i was installing ubuntu so i think the installation process ignored my pci sound card.
[07:51] <|Amon|> basically device manager doesn't see my sound card at all, and i want to find out which driver to install. i don't know the exact model number but it's an older creative card.
[07:51] <genii> fogobogo: When you compile from source it is not a package. Hence the package managewrs cannot uninstall it
[07:51] <billy> why wouldn't I be able to add "Wine" to the "Applications" menu?  There's a icon for it, but the check box automatically unchecks itself when I check it.  ??
[07:51] <crimsun> |Amon|: pastebin details from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:51] <mzuverink> |Amon|, it soes not say what it is in bios?
[07:52] <fogobogo> genii: i see. so how to get rid of it?
[07:52] <|Amon|> mzuverink, well i disabled the onboard sound card.
[07:52] <|Amon|> in bios
[07:52] <genii> fogobogo Just delete whatever binary it made
[07:53] <mzuverink> |Amon|, so you are trying to install the driver for the onboard which is disable or the pci card?
[07:53] <|Amon|> no, i want the creative pci card installed and i disabled the onboard one which was on during installation
[07:53] <|Amon|> so the installation disc installed the onboard sound driver instead of the pci one
[07:53] <budman> anyone know why my IDEFISK(softphone for voip) will work then all of a sudden it acts as if it doesnt have access to the sound complaining about /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer. Which do have the right permissions
[07:53] <crimsun> |Amon|: I'm waiting for your pastebin entry.
[07:53] <genii> fogobogo Some makefiles also have a "make dist" option to clean house
[07:53] <mzuverink> |Amon|, ok, hold on
[07:54] <crimsun> budman: it's a matter of some application hogging the sound device.
[07:54] <|Amon|> crimsun, you want the pastebin from lspci -nv?
[07:54] <crimsun> |Amon|: that's just one of the things requested.
[07:54] <budman> crimsun, it will never allow it to open again untill reboot and nothing is running. its after the first call I lose it.
[07:54] <fogobogo> genii so i can just delete it. what about settings, additional data and whatsoever. is make dist a command or a file?
[07:54] <crimsun> budman: does unloading and reloading the alsa modules work around that?
[07:55] <|Amon|> sec
[07:55] <budman> crimsun, how do I do that?
[07:55] <cables> How can I get a Sound Juicer ripping profile that will use lame to rip to mp3?
[07:55] <|Amon|> robert@purgatory:~$ tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[07:55] <|Amon|> tail: cannot open `/proc/asound/oss/sndstat' for reading: No such file or directory
[07:55] <|Amon|> shouldn't it be using alsa instead?
[07:55] <budman> Umm I think its the flash in firefox with meebo.com crimsun
[07:55] <crimsun> |Amon|: it _is_ using alsa.
[07:55] <genii> fogobogo When you created it with "make" or "make install" it created some files. A good makefile will also have a "make clean" or "make dist-clean" which will auto clean all the crap it originally made
[07:56] <jeanre> |Amon|: did you modprobe the oss drivers?
[07:56] <|Amon|> how?
[07:56] <jeanre> I think
[07:56] <crimsun> I'm not convinced you have a pci sound card.
[07:56] <|Amon|> this is my first time setting up desktop linux, ive messed around with unix based servers before
[07:56] <jeanre> modprobe snd_oss
[07:56] <|Amon|> so this is all new :-/
[07:56] <jeanre> or something
[07:56] <crimsun> jeanre: no, snd-pcm-oss, but that's not immediately relevant here.
[07:56] <genii> fogobogo: As for the conf settings and so on, motly that stuff is somewhere in your home dir with a . in front of the name of the program that made it
[07:57] <|Amon|> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[07:57] <budman> crimsun, how can multi channel audio
[07:57] <jeanre> crimsun: I just woke up and saw the last part of the conversation
[07:57] <Prez> what is command to have input in a terminal window pop up in gnome?
[07:57] <budman> ESD?
[07:57] <comodo> hey if you delete the bottom toolbar in gnome on ubuntu and want the programs you are running to show up on the toolbar that are still there how would you go about doing it
[07:57] <Prez> something like gksudo but for any input
[07:57] <cables> comodo, right click on the bar, then Add to Panel, then Window List
[07:57] <Prez> I know I used it before, but i forgot
[07:57] <|Amon|> jeanre, how do i modprobe this?
[07:57] <crimsun> budman: modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}')
[07:58] <comodo> thanks cables
[07:58] <crimsun> budman: take note of the contents of /proc/asound/modules first
[07:58] <RoundyT1> how do i delete a dir?
[07:58] <mzuverink> |Amon|, the creatice pci sound drivers are already in the kernel and so should be running, according to http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html alsa should run the card, maybe the card is bad?
[07:58] <budman> justin@justin-laptop:~$ modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}')
[07:58] <budman> FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[07:58] <|Amon|> nope, works in windows
[07:59] <crimsun> budman: so kill whatever's using it, as I mentioned above
[07:59] <crimsun> budman: kill $(lsof -t /dev/audio* /dev/dsp* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*)
[07:59] <|Amon|> when i run amixer:
[07:59] <|Amon|> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[07:59] <mkquist> roundyt1 - rm -rf whatever
[07:59] <crimsun> |Amon|: yes, yes. Where's the pastebin?
[08:00] <budman> crimsun, how do i get it to allow multiple channels ? or audio in multipl eprograms?
[08:00] <crimsun> budman: it does by default.
[08:00] <mkquist> roundyt1 - in terminal of course, might have to sudo
[08:00] <budman> why is mine having issues?
[08:00] <fogobogo> genii got that! i tryin right now...
[08:00] <crimsun> budman: because oss emulation preempts mixing.
[08:00] <creedo> how can i create a shared folder and open shared folder on network?.
[08:00] <budman> umm I set ALSA on everything.
[08:00] <crimsun> budman: if you had an audio device capable of hardware muxing, this would be moot.
[08:00] <Flannel> creedo: With windows machines, right?
[08:01] <creedo> yeah
[08:01] <mzuverink> |Amon|, so the card is either too old and ran on a weird driver or bad or whatever.  is crimsum helping you with this issue?  If so the pastebin would be a good start, crimsum is a ton more knowledgeable than me...
[08:01] <Flannel> !samba | creedo
[08:01] <crimsun> budman: no, some apps still use the oss api
[08:01] <Flannel> ugh.  Ubotu is certainly having problems tonight.
[08:01] <dvdcpu> hello
[08:01] <budman> crimsun, your kill command didnt work
[08:01] <crimsun> budman: alsa provides an oss compatibility layer, but it cannot be mixed unless your hardware is capable of it
[08:01] <ubotu> creedo: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:01] <|Amon|> pastebin gives me an error lol
[08:01] <crimsun> budman: what's the output from that lsof command now?
[08:02] <crimsun> |Amon|: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:02] <budman> lsof has tons of siht u talking to me?
[08:02] <mzuverink> Anyone know how to stop gnome-panels from popping up a window name when hovering over a minimized window?
[08:02] <budman> That kill command did not work
[08:02] <crimsun> budman: of course I'm talking to you. I want to see that lsof output pastebinned now.
[08:02] <|Amon|> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12283/
[08:02] <creedo> ubotu: do i need it even if i can ping the other computer..sorry for such a lame question im just a newbie on linux
[08:02] <mzuverink> |Amon|, the webboard applet helps a ton
[08:03] <creedo> lol
[08:03] <avalon> Can someone explain to me how I can make the "Remember File Association" option actually work on my system?
[08:03] <creedo> Flannel: do i need it even if i can ping the other computer..sorry for such a lame question im just a newbie on linux
[08:03] <crimsun> |Amon|: that paste is incomplete
[08:04] <budman> http://phpfi.com/220399
[08:04] <budman> volume control etc.. is not working now
[08:04] <Flannel> creedo: yes.  Samba is the language that windows computers talk.
[08:04] <avalon> I'm trying to make Xine the default application for everything, but it won't do it.
[08:04] <|Amon|> eh
[08:04] <|Amon|> i ran all 7 steps
[08:04] <crimsun> budman: uh, no, you misread
[08:05] <mbdl> hello everyone...does anyone know how to create in grub a iso boot
[08:05] <neozen> anyone seen Golf?
[08:05] <crimsun> budman: lsof /dev/audio* /dev/dsp* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*
[08:05] <mbdl> so i can boot an iso
[08:05] <creedo> Flannel:already installed samba  what should i do next?.
[08:05] <neozen> anyone know how to edit the module blacklist on an ubuntu livecd?
[08:05] <fogobogo> genii !!! it works!!! but that wasnt actually my question. I just didnt know that you have to be in the dir of the source. anyway thank you very much!
[08:05] <neozen> DOH
[08:05] <budman> http://phpfi.com/220401
[08:05] <neozen> sorry about the anyone
[08:06] <crimsun> neozen: it's a live cd. You can't.
[08:06] <Flannel> creedo: you need to configure it, that link explains how
[08:06] <neozen> crimsun: yeah... I figured that
[08:06] <genii> fogobogo: Glad to help
[08:06] <crimsun> neozen: that is, if you mean for it to take effect on next boot.
[08:06] <jeanre> man they should make skype in GTK
[08:06] <crimsun> neozen: obviously you can still edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[08:06] <creedo> ok ill read it..il just post again if there is something i dont understand.thanks again
[08:06] <neozen> crimsun: well.. nearest I could figure would be to mount the iso as a loopback in a working distro
[08:07] <crimsun> neozen: doesn't work that way.
[08:07] <neozen> then dive into the initrd and pound on things till it worked
[08:07] <neozen> ..yeah... figured that out too
[08:07] <neozen> crimsun: lol
[08:07] <neozen> all I need to get feisty up and happy on my laptop is one line in the blacklist
[08:08] <crimsun> neozen: are you sure that passing the appropriate kernel parameter is insufficient?
[08:08] <neozen> otherwise... the second I poke one of my brightness changing buttons... by accident or otherwise screen goes kaboom
[08:08] <|Amon|> crimsun, what do you mean it's incomplete
[08:08] <neozen> crimsun: there's a kernel parameter to add stuff to the blacklist?
[08:08] <crimsun> neozen: no, for video.
[08:08] <neozen> crimsun: don't think so
[08:09] <crimsun> |Amon|: it's missing output from the additional steps
[08:09] <mzuverink> neozen, what model laptop?
[08:09] <jeanre> is there any other skype clients in GTK?
[08:09] <hole> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12284/ i'm having trouble with nvidia drivers
[08:09] <|Amon|> be more specific...
[08:09] <neozen> mzuverink: apparently .. this issue affects all thinkpad model 60s
[08:09] <hole> ok
[08:09] <hole> hmm
[08:09] <neozen> mzuverink: ie... r60, t60, x60
[08:09] <crimsun> |Amon|: all save the last two steps
[08:09] <mzuverink> neozen, what happens?
[08:09] <neozen> mzuverink: and its present is all distros from edgy on up
[08:10] <hole> i'm using 6.06
[08:10] <neozen> mzuverink: when you attempt to change the brightness via the proper keyboard shortcuts... the screen goes completely black... and you can't get it back
[08:10] <neozen> mzuverink: in some cases... this freezes X
[08:10] <crimsun> neozen: err, no, that's impossible. The X60 I have access to boots just fine.
[08:10] <neozen> crimsun: poke the brightness buttons
[08:10] <mbdl> does anyone knoe how to boot an iso
[08:11] <crimsun> neozen: trust me, I did.
[08:11] <neozen> crimsun: Fn-Home and Fn-End
[08:11] <crimsun> neozen: they work appropriately, too
[08:11] <neozen> crimsun: interesting
[08:11] <neozen> crimsun: when I just tried this on the feisty beta livecd
[08:11] <neozen> (and on the edgy livecd a while ago) ... the issue happens
[08:11] <crimsun> neozen: I'm not using beta; I'm using current. Newer kernel. Are you running the latest bios(es)?
[08:11] <l90bpm> mbdl, change your bios so that cd/dvd drive is the first boot device\
[08:12] <neozen> crimsun: 2.x series
[08:12] <l90bpm> at start up it's probably F2
[08:12] <crimsun> neozen: what does dmidecode tell you?
[08:12] <mzuverink> mbdl, what do you mean, a iso you burned to disc or to mount via a loopback?
[08:12] <neozen> crimsun: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_LCD_brightness_buttons
[08:13] <neozen> crimsun: take a look there
[08:13] <|Amon|> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12286/
[08:13] <l90bpm> I wondered that..
[08:13] <mbdl> mzuverink: no just an iso on my external hard drive
[08:13] <mbdl> l90bpm: is an iso form my hard drive its not burned
[08:13] <mkquist> hey peeps - anyone know the terminal cmnd to start the x-server off the top o ur head?
[08:13] <neozen> mbdl: interesting if you get that working poke me
[08:13] <mzuverink> mbdl, you cant burn to disc?
[08:13] <neozen> mbdl: I've got a perfect use for that
[08:14] <mbdl> mzuverink: i want to be able to boot it b/c i have no CDS
[08:14] <crimsun> neozen: yes, I know of that
[08:14] <mbdl> neozen:what u mean
[08:14] <l90bpm> like in a virtual drive
[08:14] <musicones> Hi, is it possible to get an updated Package out of the  Feisty sources? I'm using Edgy currently. I need an updated RapidSVN 0.9.4 because it works with latest SVN 1.4 working copies.
[08:14] <mbdl> l90bpm: ya
[08:14] <neozen> mbdl: if you find a way to do what you're asking, tell me how
[08:14] <budman> crimsun, any ideas?
[08:14] <l90bpm> anyways, they can help..   NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7184-pkg1.run
[08:14] <l90bpm> "night"
[08:14] <Flannel> musicones: Why do you need to work with 1.4 working copies?
[08:15] <crimsun> |Amon|: that still only lists some output from dmesg (not complete) and /proc/interrupts
[08:15] <mbdl> mzuverink: do u have anyideas
[08:15] <mzuverink> mbdl, so you should be able to run it in a vm installing from iso, thats what i would try if its an OS, or mount as a loopback
[08:15] <|Amon|> crimsun, thats not my fault
[08:15] <crimsun> |Amon|: then output it to a file, and post it on a public web site
[08:15] <mzuverink> mbdl, whats the iso?
[08:15] <neozen> crimsun: so.. its fixed in the 13 series kernel?
[08:15] <mbdl> mzuverinkhow would i say install windows and mount it as a loopback
[08:15] <|Amon|> crimsun, not everything is running because the sound card isnt installed
[08:15] <musicones> I have  Windows and Linux on my notebook. On Windows I use tortoisesvn, that uses the new format of working copies
[08:15] <crimsun> neozen: no, my hardware just is not affected
[08:15] <mbdl> mzuverink: its windows xp
[08:16] <AB3I> howdy all.
[08:16] <neozen> hmm....
[08:16] <crimsun> neozen: I'm not using the latest bios
[08:16] <neozen> crimsun: ahh
[08:16] <neozen> crimsun: this was most necessary in my case
[08:16] <AB3I> I'm trying to get my broadcom 4318 wifi card working with ndiswrapper in kde. I've got it recognizing the card just fine, but i cant get it to associate with my network. I'm not real familiar with iwconfig and kwifimanager, anyone able to offer some help?
[08:16] <michup> can someone help me install drivers for my notebook?
[08:16] <michup> its asus a3h5012
[08:16] <neozen> crimsun: on the r60e strange bad things occur when you close the laptop when its on
[08:16] <Flannel> musicones: You're sharing the same svn files?  interesting.  Well, no, there really isn't.  You'll need to upgrade.  Whether that's now, or wait with two copies of your working copies for the few weeks until Feisty goes final.
[08:16] <crimsun> budman: lsmod |grep ^snd
[08:16] <michup> should i use ndiswrapper or is it possible nativly?
[08:17] <mbdl> mzuverink: i think u can edit grub to boot
[08:17] <mzuverink> mbdl, there are some hacks that use the free vmplayer to allow a creation of a windows vm machice, use google
[08:17] <ToN_D2> can someone tell me how can i save my config with 1024x768?
[08:17] <crimsun> |Amon|: err, it's _not installed_?
[08:17] <neozen> crimsun: video bios attempts to change the resolution or something
[08:17] <crimsun> |Amon|: meaning your pci peripheral isn't installed?
[08:17] <neozen> crimsun: goes kaboom
[08:17] <|Amon|> yes, the installation didn't install it because it installed the onboard one instead
[08:17] <budman> crimsun, nothing.
[08:17] <mbdl> mzuverink: but i want to use grub an add it
[08:17] <|Amon|> installation disc
[08:17] <mbdl> mzuverink: and i dont know how to config grub
[08:18] <musicones> Flannel: thank you. Yes, I would like to share them. I'm not shure if it works. But currently there is no updated svn-client under linux.
[08:18] <crimsun> budman: nothing from that command?
[08:18] <neozen> crimsun: so what were you saying about dmidecode?
[08:18] <crimsun> budman: good. Now which driver did you use?
[08:18] <mbdl> mzuverink: whats the comand to edit grub
[08:18] <|Amon|> the driver isn't installed
[08:18] <crimsun> neozen: pull the bios revision from dmidecode
[08:18] <|Amon|> heh.
[08:18] <neozen> crimsun: this is a new beastie to me
[08:18] <ToN_D2> how can i save my actual config ?
[08:18] <Flannel> musicones: what?  you mean under Edgy.  And there won't be.  Edgy will always have... uh, what does it currently have? 1.2?  Edgy will always have svn 1.2
[08:18] <neozen> crimsun: ahhh
[08:18] <|Amon|> i just caught that
[08:18] <mzuverink> ToN_D2, did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg and run through the config an choose that resolution?
[08:18] <mbdl> ANYONE know how to open grub and edit it
[08:18] <crimsun> |Amon|: I'm concerned about the _hardware_ being installed. Your computer does not recognize _any_ pci audio devices.
[08:18] <budman> crimsun, this is the new alsa driver from their website. only way to get my microphone working on the laptop :-)
[08:19] <mbdl> what the commend
[08:19] <ToN_D2> |Amon|: can u help me? i need to save my actual config of my videocard :\
[08:19] <|Amon|> crimsun, Windows does, Ubuntu doesn't you mean
[08:19] <crimsun> budman: for patch_analog.c? We merged that long ago.
[08:19] <crimsun> |Amon|: so, reenable all sound devices in bios when you reboot. Then we'll resume debugging.
[08:19] <mzuverink> mbdl, grub is in /boot/grub..... try man grub
[08:20] <neozen> crimsun: I get SMBIOS version 2.4
[08:20] <|Amon|> crimsun, i disabled *just* the onboard in bios as that was the only selection
[08:20] <crimsun> neozen: no.
[08:20] <groogs[laptop] > Trying to get openGL with ATI Radeon 9250 working on edgy.. I have dri loaded (xpdyinfo shows "XFree86-DRI" loaded, no errors in Xorg.log), but glxinfo shows "direct rendering: no" .. I've tried the radeon ati and fglrx (ati proprietary) drivers.. any ideas? (already have been scouring forums)
[08:20] <neozen> crimsun: that what you get?
[08:20] <|Amon|> so it should pick up the PCI card and run it from alsa
[08:20] <ToN_D2> :(
[08:20] <mbdl> mzuverink: but wats the command in terminal i use gedit or whatever
[08:20] <crimsun> |Amon|: then power down the machine and physically read me the information from the peripheral.
[08:20] <budman> crimsun, not sure what you mean?
[08:20] <budman> The update fixed my microphone and jerked other things around
[08:21] <neozen> crimsun: oh.. wait perhaps you mean the release date for the bios... this would be oct 16, 2006
[08:21] <crimsun> budman: your computer's audio support is not complete
[08:21] <musicones> Flannel: not shure. I've taken a look at the svn-clients on tigris.org. I tried workbench, kdesvn and rapidsvn. There maybe others, but It would take too long to check them all.
[08:21] <fogobogo> hows the make folder command?
[08:21] <crimsun> neozen: and the revision. The actual revision.
[08:21] <neozen> 1.7
[08:21] <crimsun> budman: I know because I work on that driver.
[08:21] <mzuverink> ToN_D2, hit ctrl-f1 then log in, then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  follow the dialoge and make the appropriate selections
[08:21] <budman> Ahh help me :-)
[08:21] <neozen> crimsun: that the number you're looking for?
[08:22] <crimsun> neozen: err, no, it should be 2.0+
[08:22] <mzuverink> mbdl, man grub, info grub, google grub  hate to say I dont know, so rtfm;)
[08:22] <neozen> crimsun: well... it doesn't appear to be
[08:22] <neozen>         BIOS Revision: 2.6
[08:22] <neozen>         Firmware Revision: 1.7
[08:22] <crimsun> budman: now, what hardware do you have?
[08:22] <neozen> ..oh wait
[08:22] <neozen> lol
[08:22] <neozen> crimsun: there it is
[08:22] <budman> crimsun, HP dv6226us.
[08:23] <budman> let me try and get the info im not sure.
[08:23] <neozen> crimsun: should I roll back my bios
[08:23] <ToN_D2> mzuverink: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in "terminal" ?
[08:23] <crimsun> budman: good, so now I need ``lspci -vvn'' pastebinned.
[08:23] <neozen> crimsun: that would be scary
[08:23] <crimsun> neozen: only you can make that decision
[08:23] <neozen> crimsun: lol
[08:23] <budman> I used the ubuntu how to at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hp_dv6000_series_%28dv6116eu%29
[08:23] <michup> can someone help me configure wireless on my asus a3h5012?
[08:23] <neozen> crimsun: in theory.. what effects would blacklisting video have?
[08:23] <michup> 01:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[08:23] <mzuverink> ToN_D2, hit ctrl+f1, log in then run the command
[08:23] <neozen> michup: LOL
[08:24] <crimsun> michup: just use ndiswrapper, more than likely
[08:24] <neozen> michup: yeah
[08:24] <crimsun> bcm43xx will barf periodically
[08:24] <neozen> michup: black list the builtin driver
[08:24] <michup> okay, wich drivers?
[08:24] <crimsun> (I just said which driver)
[08:24] <michup> okay thx
[08:24] <budman> http://phpfi.com/220404
[08:24] <neozen> michup: follow this guide:
[08:25] <mzuverink> ToN_D2, then when you have gone through all the steps, type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[08:25] <neozen> michup: (looking up)
[08:25] <budman> my wifi broadcom 4311 works fine with ndiswrapper
[08:26] <katara> hi, i have a dns dynamic updated by my dhcp server. Windows clients works, but my ubuntu clients dons (they got the ip but no dns registry), i have a stock kubuntu install, any ideas?
[08:26] <crimsun> budman: so your current model is "laptop"
[08:26] <mzuverink> ToN_D2, dont try it in a virtual terminal, use a tty
[08:26] <crimsun> budman: I presume you're using current hg alsa-driver or feisty's current kernel (2.6.20-13.21)?
[08:26] <budman> edgy.
[08:26] <michup> neozen: could you send that link again i didnt catch wich one it was?
[08:26] <budman> alsa driver from the site.
[08:26] <crimsun> budman: and which version of the alsa-driver?
[08:27] <neozen> michup: thats because there wasn't a link.. I'm looking it up
[08:27] <neozen> michup: lol
[08:27] <ToN_D2> mzuverink:  here dont work ctr+f1 =\
[08:27] <acphoton> Hey everyone! :)
[08:27] <budman> 1.0.13
[08:27] <crimsun> budman: too old, you need current hg for the patch_conexant.c fixes.
[08:27] <acphoton> I wanted to read up and learn more about Servers (upgrading etc...) as well as some basics about them.... anybody have any suggestions?
[08:27] <mzuverink> ToN_D2, my bad hit "ctrl+alt+f1" got lazy
[08:28] <ToN_D2> ok
[08:28] <sontek> Hey, i'm trying to setup LVM, I did pvcreate /dev/sdb /dev/hdb but when I do pvdisplay it shows nothing
[08:28] <sontek> am I doing something wrong?
[08:28] <neozen> michup: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[08:29] <budman> crimsun, which one?
[08:29] <neozen> michup: there you go... that's a tried and true guide.. tested many times... worked every time with your particular card and revision
[08:29] <mzuverink> ToN_D2, it will kill your xserver when you make the changes, also i would make a hard copy first of /etc/X11/conf
[08:29] <neozen> michup: you should be up within the hour
[08:29] <mzuverink> opps too late
[08:29] <crimsun> budman: current hg. There's only one such "current hg".
[08:29] <nn531> I know this may seem a bit off topic but does anyone know VHDL/
[08:29] <michup> okay thx
[08:29] <neozen> crimsun: I think I'll stick with my current bios...
[08:30] <neozen> crimsun: its bound to be fixed eventually
[08:30] <neozen> crimsun: nice to know it _used_ to work though
[08:30] <budman> Im on the site looking k.
[08:30] <oga> hey all, i'm using the live
[08:31] <mzuverink> Is there a way(easy way) to add all the debugging packages for your installed packages?
[08:31] <oga> hey all, i'm using the live CD at the moment because my HDD & Power supply just blew up. I'd like to test the RAM to see if it's all ok before I go shopping for new parts what is the best way to test memory using livecd
[08:32] <budman> Mercurial ?
[08:32] <neozen> oga: wow.... that sucks mon
[08:32] <keekles> anybody get beryl working xgl-fglrx on 6.10?
[08:32] <oga> i thought it was just the power supply, but the new one won't boot unless the HDD is disconnected
[08:32] <Flannel> keekles: #ubuntu-effects for Beryl support, thanks.
[08:32] <neozen> oga: wow....
[08:32] <keekles> sweet
[08:32] <neozen> oga: you've got a live one
[08:32] <mzuverink> oga, doesnt it have that option hit the f1-f... to see other options when starting up, I seem to remember that option on the livecd, I may be wrong...
[08:33] <Akuma_> when i try using the vnc client the password dialog freezes. any idea?
[08:33] <neozen> oga: come to think of it... so do I
[08:33] <neozen> oga: look along the bottom of the screen
[08:33] <popel> could some1 help me? i have a problem. I installed apache, mysql, php4/5 and phpmyadmin. now i want to go on localhost/phpmyadmin and my computer wants me to download the php-file. whats that shit?
[08:33] <budman> crimsun, seems to fail on install
[08:33] <neozen> oga: once the livecd has booted and you see a selection screen install... test cd... etc
[08:34] <popel> why does my browser wants me to dl a php-file? i want to open it and administrate my database
[08:34] <neozen> popel
[08:34] <budman> error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
[08:34] <popel> ya?
[08:34] <neozen> popel: you probably need to tell apache to execute the php script
[08:34] <popel> oh
[08:34] <popel> ok
[08:34] <oga> neozen i didn't check
[08:34] <oga> i'll give it a go
[08:34] <neozen> oga: ok
[08:34] <crimsun> budman: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) autoconf libtool automake1.7 mercurial
[08:35] <neozen> oga: best of luck in your search for new and better hardware mate
[08:35] <jeanre> omg skype is ugly
[08:35] <chipbuddy> so i just recently got beryl up and running, but now all my windows don't have the 3 buttons in the upper right hand corner (close, min, max)... how do i get them back?
[08:35] <__hase> What's that website I use to paste things?
[08:35] <neozen> !pastebin
[08:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:35] <popel> neozen: I thought apache does it always by default
[08:35] <neozen> there you go
[08:36] <jedidor> I am going from edgy to feisty, it's pretty much giving me only the options to manually edit the partition tables. What would be the recommended sizes for each?
[08:36] <neozen> popel: can't be sure right now
[08:36] <Flannel> chipbuddy: #ubuntu-effects for Beryul support
[08:36] <Flannel> jedidor: you're upgrading?
[08:36] <chipbuddy> thanks flannel
[08:36] <jedidor> Just going to do a reinstall.
[08:36] <jedidor> Fresh Install.
[08:36] <neozen> jedidor: 7gb root 1gb swap ....everything else to /home
[08:37] <budman> This will install the drivers or should I run the python install?
[08:37] <jedidor> ok ty.
[08:37] <neozen> jedidor: that should be more then adequate
[08:37] <__hase> Ok, so what does this mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12290/
[08:37] <neozen> good stuff
[08:37] <neozen> very good stuff
[08:37] <neozen> lol
[08:38] <neozen> not really.... you need libtool
[08:38] <neozen> __hase: try sudo aptitude install libtool
[08:38] <crimsun> budman: hgcompile
[08:38] <__hase> ok
[08:38] <neozen> __hase: compiling from source can be SO evil
[08:39] <budman> crimsun, hgcompile or hg with option compile is not vaild.
[08:39] <neozen> __hase: particularly if you're compiling from stuff in a cvs or svn
[08:39] <malcoholio> Evening all.
[08:39] <crimsun> budman: you _did_ check out alsa-driver and alsa-kernel from hg, correct?