[00:00] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, i told you that before knowing that you had a zipped application that needed to be complied. I didn't know that you wanted to compile a source application from level 0. I thought you made main.c file who calls certain headers files which were absent from the main library folder.
[00:01] <scipy53> anyone know how i can run a microsoft flight simulator on ubuntu?
[00:01] <hikenboot> sorry I didnt know it was at level 4 I usually do a ./configure make make install in this case I ran autoconf first
[00:01] <hikenboot> sorry level 0
[00:02] <hikenboot> not sure what that means exactly I am not a programmer
[00:03] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, what is this application anyway? if you dont mind to tell me of course
[00:04] <DWSR> Is there a way to schedule cronjobs to run on file changes?
[00:04] <hikenboot> mnemisis
[00:05] <Jordan_U> syeekick: What specifically did you do with gparted?
[00:05] <syeekick> just managed my 2tb drive and left my 1tb windows system in tact
[00:08] <hikenboot> i just got a clue it might be looking for python headers for c is there such a thing?
[00:08] <jeffrey_f> subone:  Look into .bashrc  <--It is the non-interactive script.  The user never sees it run as it runs as a submitted job and not on a pop-up screen the user can close
[00:08] <irreverant> hello everyone
[00:08] <jarray52> I have a laptop with built in Audio and a USB audio speakers. The USB audio works on my other Linux machine, and Ubuntu recognizes the audio card. However, it defaults to the computers built in speakers. How do I adjust this?
[00:09] <irreverant> is there a AV/AntiMalware product for ubuntu?
[00:09] <irreverant> or for linux that will run on ubuntu...
[00:09] <fedgalaxy> hikenboot, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1217943/where-are-include-files-stored-ubuntu-linux-gcc
[00:09] <Jordan_U> syeekick: What do you mean by "managed"? Please be specific.
[00:09] <irreverant> im asking because i would like to use it as a tool to scan through windows drives connected to my ubuntu box
[00:09] <jarray52> Also, in the alsa mixer, my USB speakers work in one window but not the other.
[00:10] <Jordan_U> !virus | irreverant
[00:11] <biglinux> ola
[00:11] <Beldar> irreverant, There are a number of bootable av on line.
[00:11] <n1ckn> Anyone been able to get the Type Conver for the Surface Pro 2 working with Ubuntu?
[00:11] <n1ckn> Type Conver/Type Cover
[00:12] <biglinux> #funchal
[00:12] <biglinux> ola
[00:12] <chcha> After upgrading to 13.10 and installing latest nvidia drivers still after i get splash screen there is blank screen coming.God  help me
[00:12] <biglinux> alguem de portugal_
[00:13] <n1ckn> biglinux: you mean "hola"?
[00:13] <Beldar> !pt | biglinux
[00:14] <jarray52> I have a device as higher priority within phonon, but Ubuntu (using KDE) does not use the higher priority device. Any suggestions?
[00:14] <jarray52> Furthermore, the lower priority headset actually works in the Audio Hardware Setup tab.
[00:16] <chcha> is it possible for me to downgrade from 13.10 to lower version with just command line???????
[00:16] <chcha> My network is working and I have terminal working.So can i downgrade with command line?
[00:17] <Beldar> chcha, Nope you have to fresh install.
[00:17] <chcha> Beldar: oh ok....
[00:18] <chcha> Beldar: using live cd or USB.Is there any other way?
[00:18] <Beldar> chcha, You might address the problems on 13.10 to the channel though?
[00:18] <hmf-pi> :)
[00:18] <Beldar> chcha, You can use grub to boot an iso.
[00:19] <chcha> Beldar: but ISO should be copied before that right?
[00:19] <Beldar> chcha, downloaded
[00:19] <chcha> Beldar: ok you mean i should download ISO file and store that in some place and give the location of that ISO in grub?
[00:21] <Beldar> chcha, Yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[00:22] <Beldar> chcha, Not sure on resizing or removing the 13.10 if the iso is there when booted is all.
[00:23] <Beldar> chcha, One of your best tools thigh is the iso loaded to a dvd or usb though.
[00:23] <Beldar> though*
[00:25] <pragmatism> So my IP tables are wide open, I can see znc running on the right port with netstat, but I can't hit it from outside my server.
[00:27] <chcha> Beldar:yes i asked my roommate and he has live usb but it has xubuntu installed so i will download the ubuntu on USB and try it.Should i use 13.10 and try it?Do you think it would work?
[00:28] <Beldar> chcha, I'm a little confused, your question was a downgrade from 13.10, as far as what you should try that is your decision.
[00:29] <Jordan_U> syeekick: Your Windows installation is missing critical boot files, Ubuntu's installer doesn't touch files outside the partitions it's installing to and doesn't remove partitions unless explicitly told to.
[00:29] <chcha> Beldar:yes but as now i got a USB i would like to reinstall 13.10 with USB and see if it works or not.Upgrade didn't work though.
[00:30] <Beldar> chcha, Ah, again your choice, a failed upgrade does not mean it wont work. Have you addressed this failed upgrade here?
[00:30] <chcha> Beldar: no i don't want to waste time on fixing the problem but rather re-install and see if it works.If it doesn't then i will install previous version.
[00:32] <Beldar> chcha, Sounds like a good plan. Short of some driver not being supported if ubuntu worked in 13.04 than it should be fine to run 13.10.
[00:33] <Beldar> chcha, THing about upgrades is if yhou have added 3rd party repos or ppa's these can break an upgrade, so be aware of this some times a ppa-purge is the option and or removing stuff appropriately, before running the distro upgrade.
[00:34] <chcha> Beldar: i will take care of that in future.
[00:34] <Beldar> chcha, Cool, I clone all installs myself for just such a failure or any other.
[00:35] <chcha> Beldar: How can i keep a working copy of all the settings or everything related to kernel or ubuntu? Incase of failure i can just use the same.
[00:37] <Beldar> chcha, You can make a package list and save the source.list and source.list.d and keys, and document any kernel changes and do fresh install and have the same rather quickly in general, that's my method rather than upgrades.
[00:38] <Beldar> chcha, I have a list of additional apps I like, and if any need other repos, I just load them and the keys and run that list
[00:43] <tripelb> I am really slow, halt and wait for cursor to change tab -- nothing working but 12 tabs of chrome. 12.04 2002 computer with 1G of RAM. Nothing special in system. Wifi-usb. VGA=plug monitor, flatscreen (the kind you can push finger into screen). Oh chrome and a gedit window. I have something like 5G freespace IIR. Let me chack= df -h  $ /dev/sda5        21G  9.4G  9.7G  50% /
[00:44] <Beldar> tripelb, what desktop, 12 tabs in chrome with 1 gig ram is probably pushing it to swap.
[00:46] <tripelb> Beldar, are you kidding? I had a dell 2004 model with the same ram (ie close to the same computer) and it didnt do this. (Probably- is something I usually call a guess.) --- two things more. 1) what desktop would make a difference. That is something I would really like to know. and 2) I use gnome-classic. => Thanks for engaging.
[00:47] <Beldar> tripelb, If your going to be snarky I will be glad to not help you.
[00:48] <tripelb> I lied dell dimension 4600 was 2007. It had agp/pci and this has no agp slot. This does have a 2.0 USB on the front same as the other. (this is a dell dimension 1100.
[00:48] <urgodfather> hello room, i have a couple simple questions. i recently did a clean install of 12.04 and i noticed that the nvida bins were not triggered nor is additional drivers avail. how do i resolve this? second question, my splash screen also is not appearing. could be related. also, how to fix?
[00:48] <mdpatrick> Does ubuntu create a www-data user BY DEFAULT when installed??? Anyone know?
[00:48] <Beldar> tripelb, YOU did not answer a basic de question, and say whether or not you have checked swappiness, but responded in a smart ass response
[00:48] <tripelb> I would like to turn OFF join and part messages for just this channel, if possible.
[00:48] <daftykins> mdpatrick: not ubuntu, that's an apache thing
[00:49] <Beldar> hardly a guess withe the little info you gave
[00:49] <mdpatrick> daftykins: k... but some installs of ubuntu come with apache installed by default???
[00:50] <daftykins> mdpatrick: i don't know of any
[00:50] <marcos_> clear
[00:50] <daftykins> even in server you have to pick it
[00:50] <urgodfather> anyone?
[00:51] <tripelb> Beldar, OK so lets get deeper (if you would please) I have no reallity on how chrome is "supposed to work, re timing and ram) but it is always saying that it has to wait for tabs that were loaded long ago and that I havent looked at for a while. I cant imagine what it might be doing with them) -- what desktops would be more or less of a drag? Is gnome=classic particularily efficient? (that's my guess)
[00:52] <marcos_> hello I'm trying to test if ufw is working property, but I cant tests, it suppose to open a port but when I make a scan with nmap it says that is't closed
[00:53] <Beldar> urgodfather, how does the OS look, maybe you are set for drivers?
[00:53] <tripelb> beldar
[00:53] <tripelb> Beldar,
[00:53] <tripelb> ???
[00:53] <tripelb> beldar (used control key instead of shift key)
[00:53] <usr13> marcos_: Can you please restate your question?
[00:54] <urgodfather> Beldar: it looks like a clean install of ubuntu
[00:54] <MarchHare> Question: I have PPTPd set up on my machine, and it works. Is there a tutorial/explanation for how to get the mostly default pptpd to act as a proxy for my internet for those connected machines? And also so I can connect to other machines on my 192.168.1.* network?
[00:54] <tripelb> Is there any way to reorder "tabs" in the panel? (gnome-classic)
[00:55] <marcos_> usr13: I allready open a port with ufw but When I run nmap it says that this port it's closed
[00:55] <Beldar> urgodfather, resolution is good everything works as expected? Only thing missing is the splash at boot?
[00:55] <urgodfather> Beldar: sorry for the generic answer, but i dont know what exactly i should look for
[00:55] <urgodfather> Beldar: yeah no splash, and cannot get audio over hdmi
[00:56] <Guest43958> sounds like its time to start hdmibuntu
[00:56] <MarchHare> Related: I've tried tinkering with the routing tables on the server to route from 192.168.3.* to 192.168.1.*, but it doesn't seem to work.
[00:56] <Beldar> urgodfather, If all that I just asked is correct my assumption is the graphic drivers you would need are installed.
[00:56] <usr13> marcos_: sudo ufw show
[00:57] <urgodfather> Beldar: how do i fix the audio issue then?
[00:57] <Beldar> urgodfather, Not sure there, there is a sound wiki hough.
[00:58] <Beldar> !sound | urgodfather
[00:59] <marcos_> usr13: I think it's already look http://paste.ubuntu.com/6538178/ but when I reun nmap it says "69/tcp closed tftp
[01:00] <usr13> marcos_: By default, all ports are open.  The firewall us used to close open ports.  If there is no service listening on a particular port, there would be no response from that port and no reason to take steps to close it.  nmap 192.168.1.*  #To show all PCs on your LAN, (including the one you are on). netstat -tunlp  #Will show local ports
[01:02] <urgodfather> Beldar: and to fix plymouth?
[01:02] <arooni-mobile> i cant use control + shift + keystrokes in ubuntu 13.10.  apparently others too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363987/how-to-enable-paste-function-with-ctrl-shift-v-in-ubuntu-13-10 ... anyone know how to fix?
[01:02] <marcos_> usr13: thank you !
[01:02] <Beldar> urgodfather, Not sure there either, I would be careful though, it is a small thing, I would not even worry myself.
[01:03] <Dhruv0> I need help install dotnet20 on a x64 using winetricks
[01:04] <urgodfather> Beldar: if it were for just for me, i would be fine.. however im making a microdistro
[01:04] <urgodfather> using ubuntu as the backbone
[01:04] <usr13> marcos_: netstat -ln  #A little different output, helps you understand what the ports are doing, what is listening behind them.
[01:04] <urgodfather> started with minimal install
[01:04] <Beldar> urgodfather, Is that really a smart option, why would you need to?
[01:05] <teolino72> gigi
[01:05] <usr13> marcos_: netstat -aptn
[01:05] <usr13> another prospective  ^^^
[01:05] <Casey> Hey, I am having trouble on the advanced partitioner when trying to add Ubuntu to my system.
[01:06] <usr13> Casey: Can you be more specific?
[01:06] <urgodfather> make a microdistro? b/c i'm going to release it as an "unofficial" alternative to one of the key elements that i use
[01:06] <Casey> Yeah, it says I need to add a root area, and I can't figure out how to do that.
[01:07] <usr13> Casey: It is saying that you have yet to allocate a partition for /  ( / is the root directory, basically where applications are placed).
[01:07] <Casey> So do I just add a new partition and call it that?
[01:07] <Beldar> urgodfather, Ah, well there are other ways to get self fulfillment that might be more of a help for society, like volunteering for an organization or many other ways, but you have your dream good luck. ;)
[01:07] <usr13> Casey: Traditioally, we use /  and  /home  and swap  (sometimes more sometimes only /  and swap )
[01:08] <Casey> Should I have it set as primary or logical?
[01:09] <usr13> Casey: Doesn't matter.   We often like to have a separate /  (or root directory) so that applications and their config files are separate from our /home/ partition.
[01:09] <arooni-mobile> i cant use control + shift + keystrokes in ubuntu 13.10.  apparently others too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363987/how-to-enable-paste-function-with-ctrl-shift-v-in-ubuntu-13-10 ... anyone know how to fix?\
[01:09] <usr13> Casey: A partition is a partition, (no matter if it is logical or primary).
[01:09] <Dhruv0> Please someone help with using winetricks to install dotnet20 on a Ubuntu x64
[01:09] <Beldar> urgodfather, I'm sorry but when I see someone trying to make a a new distro with the 100's out there I have a hard time believing it is not just a ego thing, and not really needed is all.
[01:09] <Casey> Okay, was just wondering, thanks!
[01:09] <usr13> Casey: NP
[01:10] <urgodfather> Beldar: isnt the purpose of open source to share freely, encourage modification, alteration, customization, and re-distribution for others to use who have similar desires? its not a matter of self fulfillment, but if it were. who are you to judge?
[01:10] <urgodfather> Beldar: im working on a minimal htpc build
[01:10] <urgodfather> geez
[01:10] <usr13> Casey: You probably want the largest partition for /home/   The root partition needs to be large enough for any applications you want to install, maybe 20G or 40G
[01:10] <Beldar> urgodfather, Just saying, and by the way you are judging me, welcome to the club, we all do it. ;)
[01:11] <Guest43958> urgodfather: and fight the jealous hordes afterwards for the rest of your life
[01:11] <Casey> How much would you suggest is needed at start? I had a disk failure in the OS and am trying to just recover everything right now, and then going to resize everything once I have gotten the files I need and such.
[01:12] <urgodfather> using, gnome as the DE instead of kde, and some of the said features are not supported by offical routes. but it would make for a nice live boot
[01:13] <usr13> Casey: How much for / ?    Well, depends on how big your Hard Drive is I guess....
[01:13] <mdpatrick> daftykins: Thanks! That helped
[01:13] <urgodfather> that has all the bells and whistles that users want without having to manually configure these said 3rd party addons
[01:13] <usr13> Casey: What size is your HD?
[01:14] <Beldar> urgodfather, There are psycholgy schema's that suggest all that we do is to serve ourselves in the end in anyway in some way.
[01:14] <Casey> Right now I can hold 300 something gbs, but windows is holding like 99% of it for storage use, so I have like the 9 gb's from the windows os to use.
[01:15] <usr13> Casey: So, how much space is left for the Ubuntu install?
[01:15] <Casey> 9 gbs.
[01:15] <usr13> Casey: Only 9G for the Ubuntu install?
[01:16] <Casey> At the time right now, yeah, I am trying to recover my files before I free up the other 300 gb's.
[01:16] <usr13> Casey: That is not enough.  That's your problem, you need more space.  20G at least
[01:16] <Casey> Gosh darnit, that's a bummer.
[01:16] <usr13> Casey: But if 9G is all you have to work with, just go with 2 partitions.  How much RAM do you have?
[01:17] <Casey> I believe 2.5 gbs.
[01:17] <usr13> Casey: Make one partition for swap, 2.5G  and the rest for /
[01:17] <Casey> Ok thanks.
[01:17] <usr13> Casey: So, you will only use 2 partitions.
[01:18] <usr13> Casey: ... for the Ubuntu install.
[01:18] <urgodfather> Beldar: yeah, im familiar… it also parallels with the concept of narcicsm in a sense where one looks for the opportunity to toot their own horn… some generally call it conceited
[01:18] <urgodfather> or cocky
[01:18] <syeekick> could someone point me to the package needed for a Radeon HD 6850 drivers for 12.04 ubuntu. I'm using the ones ubuntu stocked in the additional drivers gui , but they all under perform.
[01:19] <Beldar> syeekick, graphics are not linux's strongest point, many sre not even releaseed for linux but ported or reverse engineered, make sure you goals are realistic.
[01:19] <Beldar> s/are/your
[01:20] <Guest43958> virtualization?
[01:20] <syeekick> the 6850 is fully supported
[01:21] <Beldar> syeekick, And are you running that support?
[01:22] <syeekick> i have no idea what that means
[01:23] <genl> i install ubuntu 12.04 and it boots up black screen
[01:23] <genl> is this a common graphics card problem?
[01:24] <Beldar> syeekick, Have you tried the fglrx?
[01:24] <syeekick> yeah they are poo
[01:24] <syeekick> i wanted to install the ones from the amd webiste, but it hasn't got a detailed readme like nvidia has
[01:24] <Beldar> syeekick, You said there is support, that makes it seem you know what it is, so I asked are you using it.
[01:25] <syeekick> yeah still dont get it, i read some where that the card works well in ubuntu
[01:26] <Beldar> syeekick, Technically the channel does not support proprietary drivers is all, does not mean you wont get help, just realize the limitations and whether you will get support if it breaks.
[01:27] <syeekick> oh i see
[01:28] <Beldar> syeekick, My guess there is a thread or threads on this card on the ubuntu forums and or askubuntu and using the AMD drivers.
[01:29] <daftykins> !ati | syeekick
[01:29] <daftykins> read that?
[01:30] <physicist> Greetings...
[01:31] <physicist> I've got an problem when try to compile amd driver on 3.12.3 kernel. Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.12.3-031203-generic  -- I do not know what to do.
[01:33] <juhandi> hallo.. can u help me..?
[01:33] <daftykins> you have to ask something first
[01:34] <daftykins> sadly nobody's been able to compile the IRC mindreader add-on thus far
[01:34] <juhandi> how into other drive using terminal
[01:34] <syeekick> im running ati drivers already and im trying to execute the .run file for propertiary drivers and its asking for me to uninstall the previous ones before continung. whats the command to disable current driveres?
[01:35] <physicist> syeekick: follow the uninstalling instructions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/129597/how-do-i-fix-my-installation-of-ati-catalyst-video-driver-in-12-04-lts
[01:35] <physicist> daftykins: So, I cannot compile it or install .deb packages?
[01:36] <daftykins> physicist: i wasn't talking about your issue, it was a joke ;)
[01:36] <physicist> daftykins: Hum..
[01:40] <Beldar> physicist, What release are you running?
[01:41] <physicist> Beldar: Raring 13.04 - kernel 3.12.3
[01:41] <Casey> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu, but when I get to the login screen, it disappears to the purple color background.
[01:42] <physicist> Beldar: Trying to install 13.11 beta ati driver
[01:42] <Beldar> physicist, Ah I'm on 14.04 and just wondered if you were, not release kernels are technically not supported is all and problems with them.
[01:43] <physicist> ImportError: No module named apport Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.12.3-031203-generic (x86_64)
[01:44] <locoloco> juhandi: what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:44] <Casey> So yeah, does anybody know how to fix my problem?
[01:45] <MarchHare> Question: I have PPTPd set up on my machine, and it works. Is there a tutorial/explanation for how to get the mostly default pptpd to act as a proxy for my internet for those connected machines? And also so I can connect to other machines on my 192.168.1.* network?
[01:48] <vedrit> Is there a way to fix for doing "chmod 644 /" that doesn't require a complete re-isntall?
[01:48] <usr13> !nomodeset | Casey
[01:48] <Casey> Ubottu: Thanks
[01:49] <vedrit> okay, fail typing on my part. Is there a way to fix ' chmod 644 / ' that does not require a complete re-install?
[01:50] <usr13> vedrit:
[01:50] <usr13> Change Permissions to files only:  "find . -type f -print | xargs chmod 644"
[01:50] <usr13> vedrit: Change Permissions to directories only: "find . -type d -print | xrags chmod 755"
[01:51] <usr13> vedrit: Directories should be 755 and files should be 644
[01:51] <zykotick9> vedrit: i'd say - reinstall...
[01:51] <usr13> vedrit: So if it is all 644, just change the directories to 755
[01:52] <vedrit> and this is executable in grub? I had loaded in a graphical interface, since I'm not confident about doing everything in command line. Unfortunately, that means the system doesn't load up so I can't open a terminal
[01:54] <vedrit> zykotick9: I was specifically wanting to avoid doing a re-install. Thus why I asked for a solution that did not require re-installing.
[01:55] <zykotick9> vedrit: i think you're just wasting your time...
[01:55] <zykotick9> vedrit: good luck.  i hope i'm wrong.
[01:55] <usr13> zykotick9: Let him be the judge of that.
[01:55] <iceroot> vedrit: reinstall and learn for the future to not be root on the shell if not needed
[01:56] <usr13> iceroot: Or, learn to fix what you break.
[01:56] <iceroot> usr13: not possible in that case
[01:56] <jeffrey_f> I'm playing with 'mail'.  I get "Please install an MTA on this system if you want to use sendmail!"  Suggestions?
[01:56] <vedrit> usr13: can the commands that you listed executable in GRUB?
[01:56] <iceroot> usr13: or "learn to make a backup"
[01:56] <zykotick9> usr13: do you have any idea how many files, with different permission, would be involved here?
[01:56] <iceroot> usr13: that system is destroyed
[01:56] <usr13> zykotick9: Quite a few
[01:57] <zykotick9> iceroot: +1
[01:57] <MarchHare> So, does anyone have a moment for a network, routing, and vpn question?
[01:57] <usr13> MarchHare: Sure
[01:57] <vedrit> with how long it took to install Ubuntu the first time, I'd rather try and fix it. I don't exactly have an entire day to sit around waiting for the installer to load
[01:58] <usr13> iceroot: He can fix it if he wants to. It is up to him.
[01:58] <MarchHare> usr13: Do you know anything about setting up the pptpd to pass through connections from <IP_ADDRESS>-><IP_ADDRESS> (vpn server) -><IP_ADDRESS> (server's real nic)->router gateway->internet at large?
[01:58] <eddy> 我安装的是ubuntu 13.10，为什么下载完winneqq后安装不了，出现错误提示。
[01:58] <iceroot> vedrit: install another system, get the package list of your current system, install the same packages on the new system, create a list of all permissions with gezfacl, load that list to the destroyed system and set them with setfacl
[01:59] <MarchHare> usr13: Right now, I can connect to the vpn server and get the <IP_ADDRESS> address and talk to <IP_ADDRESS> just fine, but nothing on the 192.168.1.* net
[01:59] <iceroot> vedrit: getfacl
[01:59] <eddy> hello:有中文的吗？
[01:59] <kriskropd> !jp ?
[01:59] <vedrit> iceroot: how would I load that list into the "destroyed" system if I can't do anything with said system beyond what I can do in GRUB?
[01:59] <MarchHare> usr13: It's probably a routing problem for me, but I'm not super sure on what I need to do to the routing tables to make it work.
[02:00] <usr13> iceroot: zykotick9 You guys are right in advising a re-install, it is probably the best way, but if he puts some work into it, he could fix it.
[02:00] <eddy> hai!有懂中文的吗？
[02:00] <iceroot> vedrit: live cd with chroot
[02:00] <usr13> iceroot: Yep
[02:00] <iceroot> vedrit: just reinstall
[02:00] <kriskropd> !ubuntu-jp
[02:00] <moondog> but chmod is not recursive by default
[02:00] <vedrit> iceroot: which brings us back to, I don't have an entire day to wait for it to load
[02:00] <iceroot> vedrit: and learn for the future to make backups and to not use a root shell
[02:01]  * kriskropd pokes ubottu
[02:01] <kriskropd> is he borken again tonight?
[02:01] <moondog> so it'd only be the first level directories that would be hosed
[02:01] <zykotick9> !jp | kriskropd
[02:01] <iceroot> vedrit: there is no other way, you have to reinstall your current system or install another system to make a clone of the permissions
[02:01] <moondog> unless of course he did a chmod -R
[02:01] <kriskropd> eddy ^^
[02:02] <vedrit> Eddy isn't speaking in Japanese. Near as I can tell, that's Chinese
[02:02] <iceroot> vedrit: did you use chmod -R?
[02:02] <kriskropd> !ch
[02:02] <stunis> I'm using dwm and lightdm but I don't know how to get the code in my xinitrc ( which sets my xrandr settings and calls my dwm-startup script) in the config for lightdm. (I used to use slim and just did it in the slim.conf, but lightdm is far harder
[02:02]  * kriskropd facepalm - poor guy
[02:02] <vedrit> iceroot: no, the exact command I used was "sudo chmod 644 /"
[02:03] <Stanley00> !cn | eddy
[02:03] <PatrickDickey> Why?
[02:04] <usr13> iceroot: Good point.  If he did not use the -R switch, he is not in near as much touble....
[02:04] <iceroot> vedrit: boot the system with a live cd, mount the damaged system and use chmod 755 /  (/ = root of mounted drive)
[02:04] <moondog> right
[02:04]  * PatrickDickey can't say too much. I did a sudo chmod -Rh (or something like that) on a subdirectory, and it changed permissions everywhere because of symbolic links.
[02:04] <moondog> I've done chmod .*
[02:04] <usr13> vedrit: Do as iceroot says, you will more than likely fix your problem easily.
[02:04] <iceroot> PatrickDickey: not symlinks but because it used also ..
[02:05] <moondog> that really sucks too... cause it traverses backwards all over the place
[02:05] <vedrit> okay, I'll give that a shot
[02:05] <Stanley00> stunis: you can try make a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/
[02:05] <PatrickDickey> That's why I keep almost all of my important stuff on a server, and I don't play around on that.
[02:05] <iceroot> moondog: i did that as well :)
[02:06] <PatrickDickey> Dare I ask what chmod .* would do? (I'm not going to try it to find out).
[02:06] <vedrit> heh, I was wondering why mt recovery disk wasn't getting loaded. I put it in upside down. Heh... not my night
[02:06] <usr13> PatrickDickey: Nothing
[02:06] <iceroot> PatrickDickey: using ..
[02:06] <kriskropd> stunis: I'm using dwm and setting up info in ~/.xsessionrc - I'm not using slim or ligthdm though (jsut plain old startx)
[02:06] <moondog> well unfortunately the .. fits that criteria
[02:06] <moondog> which goes back a level
[02:07] <moondog> ends up really screwing you
[02:07] <stunis> I attempted to Stanley00, but it didn't work
[02:07] <moondog> I think mine was actually chmod -R .*
[02:08] <Stanley00> stunis: can you give more details on what did you do?
[02:08] <vedrit> All this just to get Mono to work properly and load .aspx pages
[02:08] <usr13> moondog: It would depend on where you were at the time.
[02:08] <usr13> moondog: But the command as you just stated it, will do nothing.
[02:09] <macxs> hello, i am having a problem in whicb i am unable to connect to wifi in certain networks (i.e. I can connect in one cafe, but not in my home or in an other cafe that I have connected to before and know the password)
[02:09] <moondog> oh well... of course I specified the permissions
[02:09] <Stanley00> stunis: maybe there's dwm.desktop at /usr/share/xsessions/, you can use that as a template for your custom desktop file
[02:09] <MarchHare> usr13: Since you don't seem to be answering, which would be a good channel for my question?
[02:09] <stunis> I'll have a look Stanley
[02:10] <usr13> MarchHare: Was waiting for someone else to pick you up.  But we really don't have enough information to give you any specific advise
[02:10] <eddy>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:10] <usr13> MarchHare: You could also try ##linux
[02:10] <stunis> No, there isn't. I'll upload my files
[02:11] <locoloco> macxs: what's the encryption?
[02:11] <usr13> macxs: Can you morph that into a question of some sort?
[02:12] <jmgk> hi all
[02:12] <MarchHare> usr13: I appreciate it. I'll ask there and see if they have any advice.
[02:13] <Stanley00> stunis: and upload the output of "ls -l /usr/share/xsessions/" and "dpkg -L dwm"
[02:13] <usr13> macxs: (We do not have enough information to give you any specific advise.)
[02:13] <PatrickDickey> MarchHare: This might not help you, but the closest I can come up with is for an Amahi Home Server.  But the information is for Ubuntu, so it might work (the setting up IP forwarding portion) https://wiki.amahi.org/index.php/OpenVPN
[02:13] <macxs> locoloco, usr13: Made question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20449058/ubuntu-13-10-connects-to-certain-wifi-wireless-networks-only and as for the encryption, i'm not sure. I'm not actually at one of those places now
[02:14] <tripelb> Here I am 12.04-gnome-classic slow as molasses. I have a live usage graph in the panel and can see CPU usage and easily see memory and cache. Is someone interested in helping me. Chrome brings things even slower. I havent got chrome started yet and I killed all the windows so It will start up with just one. (Bendar claims it is my 1G RAM Intel computer but I have used this much RAM on various computers since 2006 (Ubuntu 6.04 began my use
[02:14] <tripelb>  of it) and this is different. I have ALWAYS used a lot of chrome windows.
[02:14] <vedrit> macxs: there could be a number of reasons why you can't connect to different networks. Encryption mismatch, transmission mode mismatch, password mismatch, protocol mismatch
[02:15] <macxs> vedrit - so you recomment I get home, connect to ethernet, then figure out why i can't get on the wifi?
[02:15] <stunis> Stanley00, http://pastebin.com/gZGzNKZq
[02:15] <PatrickDickey> macxs: You said you can't connect to your home wifi?
[02:16] <macxs> PatrickDicket - correct. But i can connect at this house i'm at now
[02:16] <usr13> macxs: The network-manager should should make the connection for you, if you provide proper perameters, (encryption key, etc.)
[02:16] <vedrit> macxs: not necessarily. If you are manually configuring the connection info, you may want to double-check what the access points settings are.
[02:16] <locoloco> macxs: see your phone for the encryption and confirmed pw and double check the items that vedrit: pointed out.
[02:16] <tripelb> now chrome started, loaded ONE page - which used 100% of the cpu for 30 secs. The problem I was having before is that chrome wouldnt ignore pages that had been loaded for a while and wwere not being accessed.  30 secs
[02:16]  * vedrit is happy he contributed
[02:17] <MarchHare> PatrickDickey: It might help. I really just need to see some sample configurations to see if I'm missing some routing stuff, or if I just need to tell pptp to set routes, etc
[02:17] <macxs> locoloco: at the cafe, the internet generally connects without a password then when i open a browser page it asks me for the password in there. It's not doing anyh of that though after I click the network icon
[02:18] <usr13> macxs: There are a number of possibilities or reasons you would not be able to connect to a particular network. One may be a limitation of the hardware you are using, but at any rate, it is something you work out via the network-manager.  If you supply the correct connection information, you should be able to connect.
[02:18] <locoloco> macxs: that sounds like a hotspot!
[02:18] <Stanley00> stunis: please upload the output of "ls -l /usr/share/xsessions/" and "dpkg -L dwm"
[02:19] <stunis> Stanley00, http://pastebin.com/eZyTU2gB
[02:19] <vedrit> macxs: that's all stuff that happens after the connection is made between you and the AP. What you (somewhat) described earlier was that you weren't connecting to your home WiFi
[02:19] <stunis> There
[02:19] <Stanley00> stunis: got it
[02:20] <Vivekananda> anyone can tell me good tools to convert vob files to other format ? I wanted to know 1. fast tools 2. good quality conversion tools
[02:20] <macxs> so at a cafe for instance how should i handle that network configuration stuff? Should I ask the barista or look at something on my phone?
[02:20] <usr13> vedrit: If you can post an image of the network-manager window as you are attempting to configure the connection, it might give us a clue as to what you are doing wrong.  Other than that, I don't know.
[02:21] <locoloco> macxs: ubuntu/network-manager has no input on that password. That's handled through the browser. Consult the network admin of the cafe.
[02:21] <usr13> macxs: If you can post an image of the network-manager window as you are attempting to configure the connection, it might give us a clue as to what you are doing wrong.  Other than that, I don't know.
[02:21] <macxs> locoloco: lol the network admin of the cafe. I will be sucha  nerd
[02:21] <macxs> usr13 - Ok well i will be back here another time
[02:21] <vedrit> macxs: most of the time, you can simply allow the device to automatically configure the connection, and it will ask for a password/passcode if necessary
[02:21] <Stanley00> stunis: just look at /usr/share/xsessions/dwm.desktop and make a custom session as you need.
[02:21] <usr13> macxs: Okeydokey
[02:22] <macxs> vedrit: that's what i;ve been tryin ...
[02:22] <wad> How do you set preferred applications on 13.10?
[02:22] <vedrit> macxs: Okay. In that case, yeah, use your phone to find the proper configuration, ask someone who would know, or check the device if you can
[02:23] <Stanley00> stunis: first, run "cd /usr/share/xsessions/ && sudo cp dwm.desktop dwm-custom.desktop && gksu gedit dwm-custom.desktop", edit the file, save, and log in to dwm custom session
[02:23] <macxs> vedrit: k thanks
[02:23] <anunakki> time to setup some xen arrays on my ubuntu-server i upgraded to 13.10 so it better work this time, was really annoying last time
[02:23] <anunakki> lol
[02:23] <anunakki> anyone have any experience with xen & ubuntu?
[02:23] <usr13> wad: I think right-click and open with is basically what you are looking for, but it depends on the file-manager you use.
[02:24] <wad> I'd like to set the default browser.
[02:24] <wad> Right now it's firefox, I'd rather it was chrome.
[02:24] <anunakki> lol
[02:24] <usr13> wad: It's a file-by-file process.
[02:24] <anunakki> cant you just run chrome
[02:24] <wad> So that when I click a link in thunderbird, it opens chrome.
[02:24] <anunakki> and set it
[02:24] <anunakki> when it asks you
[02:24] <FloodBot1> anunakki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:24] <anunakki> :)
[02:24] <wad> I'll try that again, thanks.
[02:24] <anunakki> wow, i must type too fast, and didn't put my words into a sentance fast enough
[02:24] <vedrit> arg, darn live disc isn't running...
[02:24] <usr13> wad: That is an issue of which is your default browser
[02:24] <anunakki> yea wad, run chrome, and if it doesnt display the message let me know
[02:25] <anunakki> wad
[02:25] <anunakki> cause you can go to system info
[02:25] <anunakki> default applications
[02:25] <anunakki> and set your browser
[02:25] <anunakki> from firefox to chrome
[02:25] <FloodBot1> anunakki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <stunis> Stanley00, where do I save it?
[02:25] <wad> Yeah, that was what I was looking for
[02:25] <anunakki> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79305/how-do-i-change-my-default-browser
[02:25] <anunakki> should give you the answer for that wad
[02:25] <usr13> anunakki: Slow down, don't use Enter key as punctuation.
[02:25] <stunis> to the xsessions file?
[02:25] <wad> I wasn't able to find "system info" though...
[02:26] <Stanley00> stunis: just press save button, it's already stay where it should be :D
[02:26] <wad> I see "system settings"
[02:26] <anunakki> lol holy crap, i definitely need to slow down, sorry about that :)
[02:26] <usr13> anunakki: Periods and commas and question marks are perfectly legal in on any IRC channel.
[02:27] <anunakki> haha, i know, i only type like that when I dont sit and think out my sentances, since irc is live, i tend to find myself typing as i think and i use enter more than punctuation
[02:27] <anunakki> i can adjust, no worries
[02:27] <stunis> Stanley00, "(gksu:8763): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed"
[02:27] <Stanley00> stunis: notice that you must change the "Name" and "Exec" config in that file
[02:27] <Stanley00> stunis: if gedit appear, don't worry about that *CRITICAL*
[02:27] <usr13> wad: Is your question:  How do I set chrome as default browser?
[02:28] <vedrit> good grief... this is why I was avoiding re-installing. It takes for ever for the disc to do anything
[02:28] <usr13> wad: If so, see:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/96080/how-to-set-google-chrome-as-the-default-browser
[02:29] <anunakki> wad, check system settings, you're on 13.10 it may be different, i use windows for my personal desktop, my girlfriend has the ubuntu machine in this house, she'd probably be able to answer the question better than i could
[02:29] <anunakki> i use ubuntu-server with fluxbox on my dedicated machine
[02:29] <stunis> Stanley00, gedit didn't appear, maybe I should try Geany?
[02:29] <anunakki> and wad
[02:29] <usr13> anunakki: Never send a man to do a womans job!@
[02:29] <Stanley00> stunis: yep, try geany then :D
[02:29] <anunakki> its in system settings
[02:29] <anunakki> wad, system settings > details
[02:30] <anunakki> set default browser to chromium
[02:31] <anunakki> usr13, i agree entirely, she actually knew nothing of linux before she met me, but now she operates like a pro on the ubuntu install i setup for her
[02:31] <anunakki> however, i don't like unity, and i felt like it was too different for her to adjust properly to it, so i installed cairo-dock and just removed unity's dock
[02:32] <usr13> anunakki: Awesome!  Good for her.  (You must have a pretty smart girlfriend!)
[02:32] <anunakki> i find she uses it like a mac more than anything, she's still not terminal ready, but she can use the machine just fine with her dock :)
[02:32] <boggle> Issue with key mapping on new keyboard: http://pastebin.com/QUT0hXG1
[02:32] <anunakki> yea, she is quite intelligent, and to be honest, she's really not that tech savvy, but if you give someone the right setup, something they're used to using (sort of) then they'll pick it up no problem
[02:33] <anunakki> now i'm just abusing commas
[02:33] <anunakki> god i am horrible with my punctuation
[02:33] <usr13> anunakki: You never really know, some take to a new OS like Ubuntu like a duck to water, others just don't get it.
[02:35] <anunakki> lol, i've noticed if you give a person cairo-dock, they are more likely to have at it and learn. i mean you can literally make it look exactly like OS X, but i gave her a sexy theme to use for it and she's been learning more and more ever since.
[02:36] <usr13> cool
[02:36] <anunakki> man i am struggling to virtualize properly on my machine, i am far too used to freebsd jails
[02:36] <stunis> Stanley00, I'm confused as to what I put in that file
[02:36] <anunakki> for this libvirt, etc.. i remember when linux just used debootstrap to virtualize
[02:37] <AB49K> I never got the Unity interface, it always tripped me up, but the xfce interface just felt right from the start :)
[02:37] <anunakki> now they've got a ton of what are basically wrappers, using debootstrap
[02:37] <anunakki> to over complicate the damn process for me
[02:37] <anunakki> ewww i hate xfce :P
[02:37] <AB49K> I just always found it way nicer - I even installed it over unity in my high power systems :)
[02:37] <anunakki> tbh, i am personally a fluxbox fan for any of my *nix desktops, i don't care which flavor i'm running, i'm probably most likely going to install fluxbox or openbox
[02:38] <Stanley00> stunis: first, change the "Name=Dwm" to "Name=DwmCustom". This is what show up in the session list.
[02:38] <anunakki> i dont need a dock either, so simply fluxbox.. done
[02:38] <anunakki> lol
[02:38] <anunakki> you should try fluxbox, it is perfect, so lightweight, yet entirely customizable and easy as ever to use
[02:38] <AB49K> I've used openbox, but not tried fluxbox
[02:38] <anunakki> i've used them all tbh, and fluxbox and i have just come to a mutal agreement over the years
[02:39] <Stanley00> stunis: then make a script, that will execute whatever you want when starting dwm, including dwm, then change "Exec=dwm" to "Exec=/path/to/your/script"
[02:40] <argentum> hey guys
[02:41] <anunakki> hello argentum
[02:41] <AB49K> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfFTOUfhOu8
[02:41] <AB49K> Australia :')
[02:42] <argentum> hey guys i'm having an issue, I'd like a little help
[02:42] <argentum> :(
[02:42] <argentum> Hello
[02:42] <AB49K> Shoot, I'll help if I can :) I'm not a guru though :P
[02:42] <argentum> ok
[02:42] <stunis> Don't ask to ask, ask your question and stop using multiple lines please argentum
[02:43] <usr13> argentum: And your question is __________________?
[02:43] <argentum> thank you. Ok. So I'm on xcfe on ubuntu 13.10. i386.. I recently attempted to install chrome from their .deb and it installed just fine
[02:44] <argentum> but when I open it, it appears in to be running as a process, but no windows appear
[02:44] <AB49K> Gonna sounds like a cliche, but have you tries restarting the computer?
[02:45] <AB49K> *tried
[02:45] <argentum> I then removed it, and followed instructions to install it in terminal by adding the repository (non-free) and used the dpkg -i command to install it. same thing happened.. I've removed the repositories, re added them, and installed again.. to no avail.
[02:45] <argentum> I'll restart again
[02:48] <imposssible> hi im trying to fix a black screen boot problem. how do i insert commands to fix drivers if its black
[02:48] <imposssible> do i boot a usb?
[02:49] <usr13> !nomodeset | imposssible
[02:49] <AB49K> How'd it go argentum?
[02:49] <argentum> doesn't work
[02:50] <AB49K> Have you tried installing it using apt-get?
[02:50] <argentum> yea
[02:50] <usr13> imposssible: You have to catch the grub screen, follow the link and read.
[02:50] <argentum> I added the repositories and installed it that way, did not work
[02:50] <AB49K> you did dpkg -i chromium-browser.deb? to install it?
[02:51] <argentum> well, I'm going to install chromium, I guess. Will all of the chrome add-ons work properly for chromium?
[02:51] <imposssible> usr13: thanks. i get uefi type of screen
[02:52] <usr13> !eufi | imposssible
[02:52] <AB49K> Yeah, from what I understand chromium is just a recompilation of chrome - it looks the same and works the same, I've never had problems with it
[02:52] <usr13> !uefi | imposssible
[02:53] <argentum> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79280/how-to-install-chrome-browser-properly-via-command-line     This is the process I used
[02:53] <RunsWithFiskars> has anyone found a workaround for installing linux on the new sony vaio computers? the UEFI screws everything up
[02:54] <xangua> AB49K: chromium is the opensource project in with Google chrome is based, not the otherwise
[02:54] <usr13> argentum: What not use the package manager?
[02:55] <AB49K> Oh, okay, thanks xangua :) You learn something every day :D
[02:55] <RunsWithFiskars> Can anyone help?
[02:56] <PatrickDickey> RunsWithFiskars: Can you boot to the disc?
[02:56] <argentum> usr13: Do you mean the software center? I tried installing from the .deb package from ) has joined ) has joined https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/ as well
[02:56] <RunsWithFiskars> Yes.  I'm actually running ubuntu from a usb
[02:56] <PatrickDickey> RunsWithFiskars: Are you in UEFI mode, or CSM Mode?
[02:57] <RunsWithFiskars> But I'd like to not have to constantly run it from a usb/cd
[02:57] <PatrickDickey> !uefi | RunsWithFiskars
[02:57] <RunsWithFiskars> ubottu: thanks
[02:57] <PatrickDickey> You can try the steps there. ;) Personally, what I ended up doing (and am going to try again) is installing Ubuntu Server, as my computer won't even boot to the disc in UEFI mode.
[02:58] <RunsWithFiskars> patrickdicky: thanks.. I'll keep messing around with it
[02:58] <usr13> argentum: sudo apt-get install chromium
[02:58]  * PatrickDickey POS won't even boot to any disc in UEFI mode...
[02:58] <RunsWithFiskars> patrickdickey: except finals are coming up so I'll have to try it during christmas break lol
[02:58] <argentum> running: "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser" now
[03:00] <AB49K> http://www.garyshood.com/root/
[03:03] <Payton> Hello, how do I install guest additions on VirtualBox? I am using Windows 8 and my Virtual machine is running ubuntu 64 bit.
[03:03] <argentum> Payton:that's a good question
[03:04] <AB49K> Go to the menu bar and in there you should find "Install guest Additions" It'll want to download another ISO I beleive... It's been a while since I used virtualbox
[03:05] <Payton> I checked, I don't have that option
[03:05] <Payton> I've been searching all day
[03:05] <AB49K> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp57519312
[03:05] <AB49K> Have you tried this?
[03:06] <argentum> Payton:http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-virtualbox
[03:07] <Blackweb> Anyone here familiar with Ubuntu 12.04
[03:08] <Payton> I do have a insert guest additions CD image option but it doesnt do anything when i click on the CD on my Virtual Machine
[03:09] <usr13> Payton: I suppose it would need to be mounted
[03:09] <locoloco> Blackweb: what about 12.04?
[03:10] <Payton> usr13: I have mounted it
[03:10] <Blackweb> I've been using 12.04 for like 2yrs, & just barely I needed to mount a exfat SDcard so I went online googled it
[03:10] <Blackweb> installed the right fuser-exfat then like 10 mins later system crashed
[03:11] <Blackweb> now it wont boot
[03:11] <Blackweb> I keep getting Unable to connect to the system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket:
[03:11] <Blackweb> and it just hangs
[03:12] <locoloco> Blackweb: can you reach the HDD thru live-CD?
[03:12] <demonspork> Hello everyone. I have an Ubuntu system that someone completely messed up grub, not entirely sure what all they did. Well, at this point I managed to walk them booting into a live environment and I have ssh access to the live environment
[03:13] <Blackweb> Trying that right now,  cause I went into the recovery section and its only in ReadOnly
[03:13] <Beldar> demonspork, run the bootrepair app and save the bootinfo summary.
[03:13] <Blackweb> I hope I hope I can salvage whats on the Hard Drive, Cant really Believe it,
[03:13] <demonspork> one SSD in the system /dev/sda1 seems to be a /boot parition, /dev/sda2 won't mount saying it doesn't have a valid NTFS (using mount -a) and /dev/sda5 says "unkown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[03:14] <Payton> Can't wait until ubuntu 14.04 in 2014
[03:14] <Payton> :)
[03:15] <Beldar> demonspork, can you see if the partitions are even showing?
[03:15] <Blackweb> locoloco, LiveCD seems to be hanging right now, Would there be anything you'd recommend checking first
[03:16] <demonspork> Beldar: the partitions are showing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6538624/
[03:17] <locoloco> Blackweb: fsck, comes to mind.
[03:18] <Beldar> demonspork, Is the boot partition filled up and maybe a kernel load failed, so an earlier kernel might boot it.
[03:19] <demonspork> Beldar: no, 13% used
[03:19] <Blackweb> I'll try that, but yea its weird - after it finished installing the package it needed for exfat then I started coping stuff to SD-Card then like 10 mins later it just crashed
[03:20] <Payton> Yaaay it's installing guest additions
[03:20] <locoloco> Blackweb: did you install thru apt-get exfat-utils or ppa?
[03:20] <Blackweb> Is Ubuntu 13.0 alot better in comparsion to 12.04
[03:21] <Payton> 13.10
[03:21] <Payton> Yes
[03:21] <Payton> I like it
[03:21] <dannymichel> I have a valid copy of Windows, but is Virtualbox considered another computer and against the TOS?
[03:21] <Beldar> demonspork, Are you ssh'd to the desktop or a livecd?
[03:21] <sam113101> I want to setup a bootloader on my usb thumb drive so I can choose between multiple lived cds to boot from, is that hard to do?
[03:21] <Payton> dannymichel: You still need an activation key
[03:21] <knightshade> Blackweb: some people call it spyware :>
[03:22] <Blackweb> I googled it, then there was 3 commands that it told me to do through terminal I update repository , then did sudo apt-get install exfat-utils
[03:22] <dannymichel> Payton, i have purchased windows
[03:22] <dannymichel> i have it installed Payton
[03:22] <Beldar> !fub | knightshade
[03:22] <locoloco> Blackweb: definitely! Lot's of updates.
[03:22] <Beldar> !fud | knightshade
[03:22] <Payton> dannymichel: Okai as long as they are the same virsion, otherwise you would have to buy another product key for that version
[03:22] <dannymichel> im asking if having it installed on Linux via virtualbox and on my triple-boot considered another computer Payton
[03:23]  * zee_hax0r says hello
[03:23] <Beldar> sam113101, Get the multisystem usb loader at pendrivelinux it does that.
[03:23] <knightshade> https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[03:23] <Payton> dannymichel: Oh I think that would work but you know, trial and error
[03:23] <Beldar> knightshade, Read the fud I know all the rhetoric
[03:23] <sam113101> Beldar: can you link me to it, please?
[03:24] <Beldar> sam113101, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:24] <Beldar> knightshade, This is support take your fud elsewhere.
[03:25] <knightshade> I am supporting.
[03:25] <Beldar> knightshade, Not with that, please.
[03:26] <Beldar> knightshade the issue the user is having has nothing to do with your post.
[03:26] <AB49K> Richard Stallman always manages to sound and look slightly loopy :')
[03:27] <sam113101> Beldar: is it free software?
[03:28] <Beldar> sam113101, Yes, do you not have the ability to read or search the web?
[03:28] <locoloco> Blackweb: bit of a long-shot but dd the drive onto external HDD, then fresh install of either 12.04 or 13.10 and mount the external.
[03:28] <demonspork> Beldar: I am ssh'd to the livecd, we can't figure out how to get the main system booted. The partition layout is confusing me, why is there an LVM volume
[03:28] <Blackweb> Trying to Boot to a LiveCD, and it gets to the first screen of the LiveCd, But then after that it appears to just hang, with a blinking Underscore in the top left corner of screen, Which I"ve tried the Internal DVD-DRive & Now a External Drive
[03:29] <Beldar> demonspork, They installed in a lvm that is why.
[03:29] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Blackweb
[03:29] <Blackweb> yeah probably have to do that but appears that I cant get it to bring up the Livecd
[03:29] <demonspork> Beldar: at this point you think it might be easier to just wipe it and re-install if he has the data he needs?
[03:30] <locoloco> Blackweb: BIOS settings adjusted to prioritize startup from USB drive?
[03:30] <knightshade> Beldar: Integrated spyware could be a reason for a user to not like it and therefore it has todo with the question of the user
[03:31] <Blackweb> Alright checking bios now
[03:31] <Beldar> demonspork, Not sure, I'm not familiar with lvm's and any grub fixes using ine regular partitions I am familiar with. You might check the bootrepair app and lvm is all.
[03:31] <Beldar> knightshade, Hardly, go away.
[03:32] <AB49K> If you're that against it knightshade, just install debian and configure that. no need to hate on ubuntu just cause of what rms says.
[03:32] <Beldar> knightshade, You are not reading the posts.
[03:33] <knightshade> I'm not against ubuntu, but against spyware.
[03:33] <Beldar> !ops | knightshade
[03:33] <zee_hax0r> Is ubuntu a new version of Windows?
[03:34] <demonspork> zee_hax0r: !ubuntu | zee_hax0r
[03:34] <demonspork> !ubuntu | zee_hax0r
[03:34] <zee_hax0r> Wow, I did not know that Windows was now free for everone, hurray!
[03:35] <usr13> zee_hax0r: What do you mean by "Windows"?
[03:35] <Pessimist> zee_hax0r, http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:36] <dBLOOD> Hi people!
[03:36] <dBLOOD> Could someone help me?
[03:37] <Beldar> dBLOOD, State the issues to the channel for help.
[03:37] <locoloco> Blackweb: any luck with bios?
[03:37] <dBLOOD> I'm trying to install vlc <IP_ADDRESS> from repository onto xubuntu 12.04
[03:37] <dBLOOD> without any success
[03:37] <Beldar> dBLOOD, what repository?
[03:37] <dBLOOD> I have tried three different repos
[03:37] <Beldar> dBLOOD, PPA'sa
[03:37] <dBLOOD> launchpad c-korn, muenic, muenich/vlc2
[03:38] <dBLOOD> *muenich
[03:38] <Beldar> !ppa | dBLOOD
[03:38] <dBLOOD> and there was another one, a fourth, I don't remember it's name
[03:38] <dBLOOD> yes, I know all that
[03:39] <Blackweb> Testing now, it was set to boot to USB First, But then in USB Priorities a Generic one was  set first, But from the looks of it - No, I guess next thing I could try is pull hard drive and throw in this desktop
[03:39] <zee_hax0r> Is there something like Jazzbuntu?
[03:39] <Blackweb> using a external DVD Drive
[03:39] <Beldar> dBLOOD, At the least the errors you get would be pertinent. are you running a update and then trying to install?
[03:39] <dBLOOD> the question is how does this information help me install the latest version of vlc
[03:39] <dBLOOD> yes, obviously
[03:40] <dBLOOD> it would not make much sense to add a new ppa without updating the package cache
[03:40] <Beldar> dBLOOD, It is not obvious unless you say so.
[03:40] <Beldar> many do
[03:40] <dBLOOD> LOL
[03:40] <dBLOOD> I'm sorry
[03:40] <BlackBeaver> Hello
[03:41] <dBLOOD> wow, is it like cotton candy?
[03:41] <BlackBeaver> Does anybody play Starcraft here?
[03:41] <dBLOOD> brb, got to use the toilet
[03:41] <locoloco> Blackweb: may get you back up and running sooner than continued troubleshooting with current install. If drive contains any worthwhile data, remember to backup.
[03:42] <locoloco> Blackweb: good luck! Let us know if desktop solution gets things going again.
[03:42] <Beldar> dBLOOD, have you tried this one? https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily
[03:42] <Blackweb> alright sounds good, Thanks for the help locoloco :)
[03:43] <zee_hax0r> what does brb mean?
[03:43] <BlackBeaver> brb?
[03:43] <zee_hax0r> Oui!
[03:43] <usr13> brb=be-right-back
[03:44] <dBLOOD> yeah, that was the fourth one
[03:44] <dBLOOD> sorry
[03:45] <Beldar> dBLOOD, it has 12.04 support are you getting an error?
[03:45] <Beldar> or not tried yet
[03:46] <dBLOOD> yeah, wait, I try it again, takes only a couple of minutes
[03:46] <Beldar> cool
[03:48] <dBLOOD> oh, and I have a 64bit os
[03:49] <dBLOOD> this repo gives me only some 2.0.8 git daily whatever build, not <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:50] <dBLOOD> 2.0.8+git20131130+r49148+4+5~ubuntu12.04.1
[03:50] <usr13> dBLOOD: So, why do you need <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:51] <dBLOOD> oh, right, I should have started with that actually
[03:51] <dBLOOD> anyway, I need libupnp6, but sys bitching about having libupnp3, and my current vlc needs it
[03:52] <dBLOOD> but <IP_ADDRESS> needs libupnp6
[03:52] <usr13> !compile | dBLOOD
[03:52] <stunis> I've uninstalled my Desktop Managers, how do I make sure that when I reboot it won't attempt to load one?
[03:53] <Beldar> stunis, Desktop managers?
[03:53] <stunis> Yes, I uninstalled slim and lightdm
[03:54] <Beldar> stunis, for what end goal?
[03:54] <angelazou> hi I just ran apt-get upgrade, and saw an "Setting up nginx (1.4.4-1~raring0) ..." message
[03:54] <angelazou> I ran nginx -v to check out the upgrade, but I still get the old version 1.2.6
[03:54] <stunis> to log in to a tty and type startx
[03:54] <stunis> No need for a DM
[03:54] <usr13> dBLOOD: And you have libupnp3?
[03:55] <Beldar> stunis, Not sure you are correct, however if removed they will not load, you getting to the tty as of now?
[03:55] <dBLOOD> yeah I know compiling, but it would take a lot of stuff
[03:56] <usr13> dBLOOD: You might try symlink, (ln -s /usr/lib/libupnp.so.3 /usr/lib/libupnp.so.6)
[03:56] <dBLOOD> time and downloading alot of stuff, so I thought I try to instal from a deb
[03:56] <dBLOOD> hmm...
[03:56] <usr13> dBLOOD: I don't  know about "a lot of stuff"...
[03:57] <usr13> dBLOOD: It's not that difficult.
[03:57] <dBLOOD> I saw the list of compiling vlc... oh boy...
[03:57] <usr13> dBLOOD: What are you planning to do with vlc?
[03:58] <stunis> Beldar: Haven't tried rebooting
[03:58] <dBLOOD> but what if an application actually needs libupnp6?
[03:58] <dBLOOD> I want to watch videos
[03:58] <Beldar> stunis, You have to modify grub to boot to a cli is all
[03:58] <usr13> dBLOOD: I use mplayer a lot.  How about mplayer.
[03:58] <usr13> ?
[03:59] <usr13> dBLOOD: Or xine?
[03:59] <dBLOOD> xine is a definite no, but I got used to vlc
[03:59] <xangua> is something wrong with the VLC version precice ships that doesn't allow you to watch vieos¿
[03:59] <usr13> dBLOOD: Or vlc 2.0.8?
[03:59] <angelazou> quick question, when apt-get tells me there are 17 packages not upgraded, can I see what they are?
[03:59] <angelazou> and can I get them to force upgrade?
[03:59] <dBLOOD> I just don't understand whyI don't get the new version in the repos
[03:59] <xangua> is something wrong with the VLC version precice ships that doesn't allow you to watch vieos¿ dBLOOD
[04:00] <usr13> dBLOOD: So why is xine out of the question?
[04:00] <dBLOOD> is it not the one that ships witn ubuntu, or xubuntu?
[04:00] <usr13> dBLOOD: Why do you want <IP_ADDRESS>?  (I never got your answer...)
[04:01] <dBLOOD> sorry us13, I need it because it uses libupnp6
[04:01] <dBLOOD> which I need for another application, instead of libupnp3, which is in the way of installing libupnp6
[04:01] <usr13> dBLOOD: That's where I came in. (This conversation has gone into a loop.)  sorry.
[04:02] <dBLOOD> no prop, let's clarify things :)
[04:03] <dBLOOD> *b
[04:04] <usr13> Enter sandman
[04:05] <dBLOOD> actually xine looks much like those dvd player applications for windows dumb people buy
[04:08] <ttist25> hello - I'm trying to recover some virtualbox .vdi files from a degraded Ubuntu software raid - I'm getting an "Error opening file: Permission Denied" when I try to copy them.  Can anyone help?
[04:09] <locoloco> angelazou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[04:09] <ttist25> I can copy other files like log files etc. but the .vdi files give me an error
[04:10] <jrib1> ttist25: raid1?
[04:11] <ttist25> I think so yes
[04:11] <jrib1> ttist25: you don't know what raid level you're using?
[04:11] <dBLOOD> I try master daily
[04:11] <locoloco> angelazou: sudo apt-get install -f or http://askubuntu.com/questions/42227/how-do-i-force-apt-get-to-update-the-state-of-package-versions
[04:11] <dBLOOD> but I'm afraid
[04:12] <ttist25> no - it's two 500GB drives.    I tried copy/paste from the raid array to a sata drive I have connected via USB.  The error is "error opening file permission denied"
[04:17] <jrib1> ttist25: do gksudo nautilus
[04:18] <ttist25> jrib1: ok - thanks let me try
[04:19] <vedrit> okay, so, iceroot and usr13 : I I want to make sure I'm getting into the right area on the live disc since I'm a complete and utter noob in regards to Linux/Ubuntu. After the disk loads, I go to Recover Broken System or whatever, right?
[04:20] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a way to auto-hide lxpanel? And is there any lxpanel menu applet alternatives besides the default menu?
[04:24] <ttist25> jrib: that did the trick! thanks boss
[04:25] <ttist25> jrib: can I ask you something else?
[04:26] <vedrit> usr13, iceroot, you guys still here?
[04:26] <Kryto01> ..
[04:27] <usr13> just barely
[04:28] <vedrit> iceroot had suggested I load the live disk and try to restore permissions that way, I wanted to confirm that I do that through the Rescue a Broken System option, right?
[04:28] <usr13> vedrit: What do you need?
[04:28] <usr13> vedrit: Yes
[04:28] <vedrit> okay good. Because it seriously take about 1.5 hrs for that to load. If I don't have to load into that multiple times, the better
[04:29] <usr13> vedrit: What?  What took 1.4 hrs to load?
[04:30] <dBLOOD> You are right guys, I'm better off with compiling my other app
[04:30] <dBLOOD> thank you anyway
[04:36] <locoloco> Anyone know of a way to add Bash key bindings to Unity? This only lists existing ones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts
[04:36] <adamu> Hello
[04:36] <yenic> i'm on 12.04lts right now, if i move to 13.10 are the repositories updated more often? eg. git is on version 7 or so in 12.04lts, is it on the latest version in 13.10?
[04:36] <vedrit> usr13: the recover a broken system... system
[04:37] <tubaguy50035> any reason why the "install" option wouldn't show up on a live USB?
[04:38] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Did you check the sum?
[04:38] <tubaguy50035> Yes
[04:39] <yenic> sorry i meant <IP_ADDRESS> in 12.04lts, vs 1.8.x in 13.10
[04:39] <locoloco> yenic: on 13.10, git --version <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:39] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, what release just for fun? and if you play the tuba is it a 3 or 4 valve?
[04:40] <adamu> yenic, Instead of Upgrading why not just build the newer version of git? clone git with git :P
[04:40] <Beldar> ;)
[04:40] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: Always 4.  And 13.10 server.
[04:40] <yenic> locoloco, thank you. does anyone find 13.10 more unstable than 12.04?
[04:40] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Heh, I figured 4, the server is a text install, not sure what it looks like myself.
[04:40] <yenic> adamu, i thought about that but my reason is that i dont want to have to keep making it myself from source each time a new version is released. rather just upgrade.
[04:41] <Rask> Hello, channel. :)  I have a feeling this is a question that gets asked a lot, but I'm not finding what I want by googling... if I need a newer version of a single package than what the stable release provides, is there a minimally-painful way to tell apt to look to the future for that package only?
[04:41] <vedrit> I'm using 12.04 and... I dunno. I think when I burned my disc, something wasn't quite right
[04:41] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: Incorrect.  The server iso has a GUI install
[04:42] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Yeah, I meant just no desktop, you might ask in #ubuntu-server if no one knows here.
[04:42] <adamu> yenic, you would think 12.04 would be more stable since it is the long term release
[04:42] <usr13> vedrit: If it took 1.5 hours, I don't know what to say but sounds like a hardware issue.
[04:42] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: ah, okay
[04:42] <locoloco> yenic: not at all. No hickups thus far. adamu: may be right about the clone-ing of git... it is easiest route to up-to-the-minute git
[04:42] <vedrit> usr13: wouldn't be surprised. I had to scramble to find a CD player, so it's untold years old, haha
[04:43] <vedrit> just couldn't get a USB image to work
[04:43] <yenic> adamu, i want it autoupdated with the rest of my software. the only thing in 12.04 i have installed outside of the repositories is Eclipse to get the latest.. and I had conflicts with Eclipse autoupdates not working well (needed sudo, and got out of whack with the repo version provided)
[04:43] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, There is the mini if you want a web install really better for older installs to get the latest or an only option, or just more options.
[04:44] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: The network installer?
[04:44] <yenic> does cloning automatically keep it up to date? or do i have to continously clone it as new versions are updated?
[04:44] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Nah it is a tiny iso like 32MB it just calls to the repos for the install.
[04:45] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: Where do I find that?
[04:45] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:45] <waykool99> last week i installed Mini just to test it. has every Ubuntu version minus Ubuntu Studio.  :(
[04:45] <locoloco> yenic: will only clone and subsequently upgrade to latest version of git.
[04:46] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, pretty cool really you have a lot of options for installing.
[04:46] <adamu> yenic, its really easy to clone git (git clone https://github.com/git/git) it shouldn't take more than five minutes to clone git then make && make install
[04:47] <locoloco> yenic: as per adamu: you could easily script the procedure and cronjob
[04:47] <tubaguy50035> yeah, just sucks that the main ISO doesn't work for me :/
[04:47] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: I'm not sure what checks there are in place that would make the "Install" option appear or not appear
[04:47] <Beldar> tubaguy50035, Strange for sure you seem familiar with using it.
[04:48] <waykool99> 6 years using ubuntu. just learned Kubuntu/Xubuntu meant KDE and Xfce GUI.  slaps hand on head
[04:48] <technickul> What's the best way to go about troubleshooting bootloader install failed while trying to install 13.10?
[04:48] <yenic> adamu, that sounds like i'll have to keep on top of new releases. i'll think about scripting it out.. but will probably just move to 13.10 to get more up to date releases (even if its not immediately, sounds like git in 13.10 is already up to date, while mine is on 1.7.x). thank you
[04:48] <tubaguy50035> Beldar: I've been using it for years, but the last time I did a live USB for a server was with 12.10
[04:48] <Beldar> technickul, This a dualboot and if so with what?
[04:48] <technickul> Beldar: yes windows 8
[04:49] <adamu> yenic, okay
[04:49] <Beldar> technickul, Ah, we see that happen here daily, but people do come here with problems, you familiar with the bootrepair app?
[04:50] <technickul> Beldar: I've seen that people have mentioned it while googling my problems. I think part of the problem is one I don't know where the bootloader should go and two I have raided ssds
[04:50] <yenic> if anyones interested- git stable is <IP_ADDRESS>; 13.10 git <IP_ADDRESS>; 12.04 git <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:51] <Beldar> technickul, with raid I would not know, nor really with uefi in general.,
[04:51] <adamu> yenic, the version of git I got off github is 18.4
[04:51] <waykool99> i installed U Studio v13.10 64 bit for one week. sent a ton of crash reports but loved the fact it had IDJC (idjc.sourceforge.net) under Audio. will the LTS version be released with v14.04 or v15.04?
[04:51] <technickul> Beldar: I think I just need to pick the correct place to install the bootloader but have no idea which one to choose there are like 20 choises
[04:51] <yenic> i just pulled that version # from http://www.git-scm.com/
[04:51] <technickul> Beldar: I don't  believe it's in uefi mode since I enable compatibility mode
[04:51] <adamu> yenic, nvm I was being stupid
[04:52] <technickul> I don't have the slightest clue on which device to install the bootloader on.
[05:00] <waykool99> technickul, i installed v10.04.4, then installed v13.10. i hit Yes to both GRUB installs, but to be on the safe side, used v10.04 to set the bootloader to 100 seconds. checked Synaptic for upgrading GRUB plus to get a graphical control. 10.04 only seemed to upgrade to Grub v1.99
[05:01] <adamu> technickul, I would install it to the MBR
[05:01] <technickul> Thank you for the responses I don't know which one is the mbr since I have about 20 choices
[05:02] <technickul> would it be linux device-mapper (striped) (512. gb)
[05:02] <technickul> That's the uppermost choice I'm given
[05:03] <waykool99> on 2- 2 TB SATA drives,  checked Sun's Disk Utility -and- GParted. noticed instead of MBR it used GPT (GUID Partition Table)
[05:04] <bobbyd_>  /nick bobbyd___
[05:04] <technickul> waykool99: was that to me?
[05:04] <adamu> technickul, Didn't you say you were working with Raid? If you did I am not sure since I have not worked with it before so I can't help you there..
[05:04] <technickul> adamu: yea my laptop came with raided ssds
[05:05] <technickul> I installed ubuntu on my raided desktop but it isn't dual booting
[05:05] <Guest43958> join #windows
[05:05] <adamu> !help
[05:06] <technickul> It's not windows related though. I don't know which device to install the bootloader on since I have 20 or so choices lol
[05:06] <haha> !help
[05:06] <haha> !patience
[05:06] <waykool99> Techcickul, is there a web page explaining ubuntu's install DVD's about RAID?
[05:08] <technickul> waykool99: Sory I  don't understand what you're saying? are you asking if my laptop came with ubuntu dvds?
[05:08] <argentum> anyone have a good description of SSH and how to use it that they can link me to? I want to know what it's used for, and how to use it... I would like to be able to at least start with using it to port forward for single VNC connections or at least to port forward some GUI windows.. Also, I've already installed open SSH and have configured some of the setttings in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/ssh/ssh_config files
[05:08] <adamu> technickul, Try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Boot_Loader
[05:08] <waykool99> thank you adamu
[05:08] <adamu> waykool99, lol np
[05:09] <adamu> argentum, try man ssh
[05:09] <adamu> argentum, it has a good description of what ssh is
[05:09] <waykool99> have Dell tower w/2- 2 TB sata drives. trying to learn raid before i hose up another installation.
[05:10] <adamu> argentum, Man sshd_config will help with configuring the ssh daemon
[05:10] <technickul> adamu: I'll check that out thank you
[05:10] <adamu> technickul, np
[05:11] <adamu> haha, using ipv6?
[05:11] <technickul> adamu: I should have mentioned ubuntu was in the process of installing and let me know when it tried to install the bootloader and failed. I'm not having problems booting yet :P. Or did I misread the docs you sent me?
[05:11] <argentum> adamu, Yea i've been reading up on it. There are a couple of goals that I have. I want to access the graphical seamlessly of one of my machines on my network from another... both running Ubuntu 13.10 *(xcfe) and the other goal is to remotely access through ssh the same host machine to run periodic updates and so on
[05:12] <adamu> technickul, oh okay I was confused
[05:12] <adamu> technickul, what is your problem then? :P
[05:13] <adamu> argentum, It might be better to use cron to schedule periodic updates
[05:13] <argentum> adamu: prehaps you have some suggestions for easy, responsive control of my other machine on my network?
[05:13] <adamu> argentum, you could use an ssh tunnel with local port forwarding so you only have to port forward one port (ssh)
[05:13] <technickul> adamu: lol I'll try again. I was attempting to install on my freespace formated ext3 partition, but during mid install ubuntu whined and said bootloader install failed and is asking me to choose a location to install the bootloader on, continue without bootloader, or cancel the install
[05:13] <argentum> adamu: Will look into it immediately... too green to realize that was possible
[05:14] <adamu> technickul, Maybe you could install it on one of the drivers (e.g. if you had /dev/sda and /dev/sdb install it on /dev/sda then configure bios to boot from /dev/sda first?)
[05:15] <technickul> adamu: that's where this get's weird I don't have either of those options. All my options start with /dev/mapper
[05:15] <technickul> all of the are labeled /dev/mapper/isw_bjdhdaadjh_ASUS_OS
[05:16] <technickul> and then esome have a number at the end ex: /dev/mapper/isw_bjdhdaadjh_ASUS_OS5
[05:17] <adamu> technickul, maybe something like this? sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/mapper/<YourRaidDrive>
[05:17] <adamu> technickul, oh wait one second..
[05:17] <technickul> adamu: I wish I could send a screenshot. I'm stuck on the install screen without a terminal :/
[05:18] <adamu> technickul, this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1559762
[05:18] <technickul> adamu: I literally just found that link haha
[05:18] <adamu> technickul, haha
[05:18] <technickul> was looking at it just before you sent it. I"m going to read through this thank you
[05:19] <adamu> technickul, np
[05:20] <adamu> well.. I better be signing off.. bye!
[05:31] <B0Ze> is there really no way to change the position of the system tray icons on 13.10?
[05:32] <B0Ze> rearrange the icons i mean
[05:36] <luk3rs> any one running 13.10 with bumblebee
[05:36] <gtristan> Simple question: I am running ubuntu 12.04 64-bit, are there packages for libglib-2.0 in 32bit form ?
[05:37]  * gtristan runs bumblebee actually, but not with 13.10
[05:37] <meh_> Hello, would anyone know how to set cups printer to not overwrite existing files?
[05:37] <luk3rs> in 13.04 bumblebee worked for me, but 13.10 broke something
[05:39] <gtristan> luk3rs, I've used bumblebee on a couple versions, upgrading (as you probably read the instructions) is a pain, I've personally only ever succeeded in re-installing a new version from scratch
[05:39] <gtristan> i.e. a new entire distro from ISO image
[05:40] <luk3rs> i did a fresh install
[05:40] <luk3rs> still not working
[05:40] <meh_> I've been trying to change the cups_pdf.conf file, but i "don't have the permissions".... how can one change file permission?
[05:41] <gtristan> luk3rs, ouch, sorry I personally can't help you ;-)
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !permissions | meh_
[05:41] <luk3rs> thats ok
[05:41] <luk3rs> how about nvidia primus
[05:41] <luk3rs> would that work
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | luk3rs
[05:42] <gtristan> heh
[05:43] <luk3rs> i would not mind if it used the nvidia card at all times, instead of intel
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> luk3rs: can you repeat your issue mate?
[05:44] <Gnea> !lts
[05:44] <luk3rs> bumblebee does not work in 13.10
[05:45] <luk3rs> on install it only run intel gpu
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !info bumblebee
[05:45] <gtristan> lotuspsychje, the bumblebee thing takes care of a specific issue where you have an intel chipset & nvidia chipset... unfortunately the intel chipset shows up earlier on the pci chain... Xorg takes the first one it finds: Intel
[05:46] <luk3rs> yes
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> gtristan: does he have 3 grafix card chipsets?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> 2
[05:46] <luk3rs> 2,yes
[05:46] <gtristan> lotuspsychje, it's common on some laptops, like my ASUS
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> luk3rs: you have same issue on lts?
[05:47]  * gtristan testifies to bumblebee working properly on 12.04
[05:48] <luk3rs> no in lts wifi driver does not work
[05:48] <Gnea> !ppa
[05:50] <mikeshollen> Hey guys, I installed the no-ip server on my linux machine for dynamic DNS. The application is noip2. How do I check to see if it is running?
[05:50] <Gnea> is anyone else having problems loading https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas ?
[05:50] <Gnea> mikeshollen: with the ps command, like this:  ps axf   then look for noip2
[05:50] <luk3rs> i wonder how the guys at system76 get around the optimus problem for their lappys
[05:51] <luk3rs> i look for way to disable the intel gpu in the bios, no luck
[05:52] <MajSlayer7777> what's the command to run to install security updates and packages via SSH? on ubuntu 13.10?
[05:52] <Gnea> luk3rs: who makes your computer?
[05:52] <luk3rs> sager
[05:52] <Gnea> luk3rs: what model?
[05:52] <mikeshollen> Gnea, it says                    13680 ?        Ss     0:00 noip2
[05:52] <luk3rs> np9150
[05:52] <Gnea> mikeshollen: it's running
[05:52] <mikeshollen> Gnea, awesome. thank you for your help!
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> luk3rs: here's an article about prime and 13.10, scroll down: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/8-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[05:53] <hydra7> is there a better alternative to xampp for ubuntu
[05:53] <luk3rs> thanks
[05:53] <MajSlayer7777> I tried to google it, but it's always about people upgrading the version, and they always recommend using the desktop, this is a dedicated server. I don't want a desktop on it..
[05:54] <luk3rs> i will try primus, hopefull it work
[05:55] <Gnea> mikeshollen: cheers!
[05:55] <gtristan> hmm
[05:55]  * gtristan finds "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch"
[05:55] <gtristan> thanks :)
[05:56] <Gnea> could someone please try to load https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas in their web browser and tell me if it works?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | hydra7
[05:56] <gtristan> Gnea, timeout error
[05:57] <Gnea> gtristan: okay, that's what I'm getting too :(
[05:57] <waykool99> Timeout error
[05:57] <waykool99> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[05:57] <Gnea> man, the ONE day out of the year that I want to get mame working and now I can't
[05:57] <gtristan> Gnea, time to roll your own distro ;-)
[05:58] <Gnea> gtristan: by the time I do, the ppa site will likely be up and rolling again ;)
[05:58] <mral3n> Hi all, does anyone have a second to help me with a xubuntu install (currently on a live usb)
[05:58] <Gnea> I will just have to compile
[05:58] <Gnea> !ask | mral3n
[05:59] <Gnea> mral3n: also, #xubuntu might be of some help
[05:59] <mral3n> I'm on a live usb xubuntu 13.10, I have shrunk and created a partition in windows already. When trying to install xubuntu it says no operating system is detected.
[06:00] <gtristan> ubottu, dance !
[06:00] <Gnea> mral3n: at which point does it say 'no operating system detected', exactly?
[06:00] <gtristan> eh, not bad, private reply... I suddenly feel not so bad about not having any fun bots around gimpnet ;-)
[06:01] <Gnea> lol
[06:01] <mral3n> After clicking to install xubuntu. I'm running it live of USB atm
[06:02] <Beldar> mral3n, What windows release?
[06:02] <mral3n> Windows 7 64 bit
[06:02] <Gnea> mral3n: are you following a guide of some sort on the internet to do this?
[06:03] <Beldar> mral3n, Is gparted installed on the live environment?
[06:03] <mral3n> I've done it before several times but never having the "No detected operating systems" problem
[06:03] <Gnea> weird
[06:03] <mral3n> usually there is a install xubuntu/ubuntu alongside windows
[06:04] <Beldar> mral3n, gparted? is this a uefi computer?
[06:04] <Gnea> mral3n: did the whole installation process itself seem to go alright?
[06:04] <PatrickDickey> I've seen it before. I always choose "Something else" and then manually configure everything. If you're doing it on a UEFI boot, that might be the problem.
[06:04] <Gnea> !uefi
[06:04]  * PatrickDickey reminder that "fdisk" can't "see" GPT partitioned drives. You need to use "gdisk" for it.
[06:05] <mral3n> I tried the something else but didn't want to mess up my windows partition as I have some files. As for as UEFI I'm not sure..
[06:05] <Gnea> that's useful, since I've never installed on a UEFI before... I have a new motherboard sitting in a box, just need a cpu and some memory
[06:05] <Gnea> mral3n: is it a brand new computer?
[06:05] <mral3n> made in december 2012
[06:06] <Gnea> mral3n: what cpu?
[06:06] <mikeshollen> how do i search for a file in terminal?
[06:06] <Gnea> mikeshollen: find or locate. locate only works once updatedb has been run
[06:06] <apb1963> mikeshollen: find /path -name fileName
[06:06] <mral3n> came with win 8 which I wiped out. I'm on an AMD dual core.
[06:07] <mral3n> a6 i believe or a4
[06:07] <Gnea> mral3n: laptop or desktop?
[06:07] <PatrickDickey> mral3n: It has UEFI installed then. If it had Windows 8, it most likely has it.
[06:07] <mral3n> laptop
[06:07] <Gnea> mral3n: make & model?
[06:07] <apb1963> I want to have two virtual hosts on the same ubuntu 12.04 server.  I have registered the domains at freedns as A records each pointing to my (home) routers IP.  I followed these directions: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html  I get the default "It Works" page, but my index.php file is not coming up on either site.
[06:08] <Beldar> mral3n, I suspect the W7 isn;t a uefi install, and the dsic has gpt remnants keeping the xubuntu from seeing it.
[06:08] <Gnea> apb1963: make sure that apache is set to listen on port 80 of the internal ip's as well
[06:08] <apb1963> I received these warnings & errors on restart:  http://pastebin.com/aCyWi3KQ
[06:08] <apb1963> I have a listen directive in each domains config file
[06:08] <PatrickDickey> apb1963: What happens if you try to go to the ip address on your local lan (192.168.x.x/host/index.php)?
[06:09] <Gnea> apb1963: okay, did you set them up as <VirtualHost> then?
[06:09] <apb1963> Gnea: Yes
[06:09] <apb1963> PatrickDickey: checking
[06:09] <^Mike> My laptop seems to think there are two mice attached, and one of them has a dead battery, causing it to alert me. There is no 2nd mouse. How can I make the laptop correctly detect this hardware? The mouse and keyboard are connected using a single logitech unifying USB receiver.
[06:09] <mral3n> hmm well I'm not sure. It's the same windows 7 disc I've used before when trying to install linux alongside windows so not too sure.
[06:09] <Gnea> apb1963: not sure... might want to ask in #httpd
[06:10] <Gnea> ^Mike: the laptop doesn't have a mousepad?
[06:11] <apb1963> PatrickDickey: same result. "This webpage is not available"
[06:11] <^Mike> Gnea: it also has a touchpad, but this is listed in the power statistics panel as an external mouse (obviously, the touchpad has no battery)
[06:11] <Gnea> apb1963: did you setup bind9?
[06:11] <apb1963> Gnea: I went there first.  The one person to respond gave me a holier than thou answer with a "hint" that was useless.
[06:11] <Beldar> mral3n, Use this app and run only the create bootinfo summary and pastebin the url, it will answer a lot of questions. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:11] <mral3n> If i choose the "something else" option and try to create one that way that wont corrupt my windows partition and make it unbootable will it
[06:11] <mral3n> OKay will do so right now.
[06:12] <Gnea> apb1963: well don't let him scare you off
[06:12] <apb1963> Gnea:  No.  I'm using freedns.afraid.org for dns.  And, as PatrickDickey made me check, it doesn't come up by IP either.  So it's not DNS.
[06:12] <apb1963> Gnea: Not scared, but while nobody is talking there, I figured I'd ask here.
[06:13] <mikeshollen> Gnea, I'm struggling a little with your suggestion. I am trying to locate where the files are that i just installed with sudo apt-get murmur-server
[06:13] <mikeshollen> I am looking for mumble-server.ini i believe
[06:14] <Gnea> apb1963: Well, some people can be easily put off by the elitism that some people enjoy pushing while in a non-confrontational environment.  Can you pastebin your apache config?
[06:14] <apb1963> mikeshollen: find / -name mumble-server.ini
[06:14] <gtristan> Ok new (related) question: I am running 64bit Ubuntu 12.04, I installed ia32-libs-multiarch... but I still need libfuse2:i386... running apt-get install libfuse2:i386 causes a warning, doesnt want to parallel install but instead insists on removing the existing libfuse2 package (and removing important stuff, like grub)... how can I get a 32bit libfuse.so ?
[06:14] <Gnea> mikeshollen: sudo updatedb, wait for it to finish, then just: locate murmur | grep etc
[06:15] <apb1963> gnea: yes.  A moment please.  I appreciate the polite response.
[06:15] <Gnea> apb1963: sure thing
[06:15] <mral3n> hmm E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:15] <PatrickDickey> apb1963:  You have two separate domains pointing to the same IP Address from the outside? Wouldn't it be simpler all the way around, to have one domain, and two subdomains?
[06:18] <apb1963> Gnea:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6539121/
[06:19] <mikeshollen> when i run edit on mumble-server.ini i get an error
[06:19] <mikeshollen> ** (gedit:14476): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=1b41aa7cde7459826208119f00000002 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n
[06:19] <mikeshollen> Cannot open display:
[06:19] <apb1963> PatrickDickey: Yes I do... and it may or may not be simpler, but neither domain is currently working so I don't see how it would make a difference... nor is it what I want to be honest.
[06:19] <mral3n> All done.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6539134/
[06:20] <apb1963> mikeshollen: export DISPLAY=0:0
[06:20] <Gnea> apb1963: hm okay, what you'll need to do is write a <VirtualHost> directive for each site, and each site should have its own directory, logfile, etc
[06:20] <apb1963> Gnea: did I not do that?
[06:20] <apb1963> Gnea: AFAIK, that's exactly what I did
[06:20] <Gnea> apb1963: you wrote a configuration directive for one host
[06:20] <apb1963> Gnea: Yes, that's just one file.
[06:20] <gtristan> oooo shiny: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60751/is-it-possible-to-have-32-bit-libraries-installed-on-a-64-bit-system (<-- same libfuse issue, actually)
[06:21] <technickul> Has anyone experienced an error or alert dialog that has "???" as the title and "??? ???" as the description with only an OK button during installation
[06:21] <mikeshollen> apb1963, i don't understand
[06:21] <apb1963> Gnea: The other file has the same stuff, with the domain appropriate changes
[06:21] <apb1963> mikeshollen: Copy & paste it, in the terminal.... exactly as I wrote it
[06:22] <Gnea> apb1963: oooh, I see, so you're sourcing multiple configs.... why don't do you prevent those from loading and just load this 'fun.sleepingwolf.net' for now and see if you can get just the one to work? or have you tried that yet?
[06:22] <mikeshollen> apb1963, i did
[06:22] <apb1963> mikeshollen: run your command again now
[06:22] <Beldar> mral3n, You have gpt detected "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util sfdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted." use this link to clean it and xubuntu should see the install. http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[06:22] <mikeshollen> apb1963 it is just sitting on a blank line
[06:22] <mral3n> thank you doing so now.
[06:22] <apb1963> Gnea: No, I haven't done that... but I'll try
[06:22] <Gnea> apb1963: okay
[06:23] <apb1963> mikeshollen: Now I'm the one that doesn't understand what you're saying.
[06:23] <mikeshollen> apb1963, I ran your command and then ran gedit. i didn't get an error this time, it just went to a new line with no output
[06:24] <wilornel> is there anybody out there?
[06:24] <apb1963> Gnea: Same exact errors as before that I pastebinned from the start
[06:24] <mral3n> should I use that on windows or while I'm on the usb live?
[06:25] <apb1963> mikeshollen: I'm guessing you want to feed gedit a file name.  Did you do that?
[06:25] <wilornel> Hey guys, my laptop is stuck in the "locked screen" mode. The screen is turned off, but the computer is still running.... It's not really in sleeping mode, since it's running, and it's not really running, since the screen can't be turned on...
[06:25] <Gnea> apb1963: hmmm. will that subdomain be available to the whole of the internet or are you just planning on making it available locally?
[06:25] <apb1963> Gnea: One of each.  The fun host worldwide.
[06:26] <Gnea> apb1963: okay
[06:26] <Beldar> mral3n, I believe you can run it from the xubuntu, never used it just recommended many time in the same situation.   OK
[06:27] <mral3n> ok thanks
[06:28]  * Gnea proceeds to compile the latest mame
[06:28] <apb1963> Gnea: Better.  Now I just get: [Sat Dec 07 22:27:44 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[06:28] <Beldar> mral3n, Basically you have a gpt partition table from the W8 install, leaving gpt remnants that stops the xubuntu read of the HD.
[06:29] <Gnea> apb1963: okay. try changing <VirtualHost *:80> to <VirtualHost fun.sleepingwolf.net:80>
[06:29] <apb1963> Gnea: Definitely better... now I get the page, but it doesn't render properly
[06:29] <apb1963> Gnea: OK
[06:30] <Mongo44> Does anyone know how to take this command: echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness : to set as the lowest brightness?
[06:30] <Gnea> apb1963: I should probably mention that I haven't touched an apache config file in about 4 years
[06:30] <Gnea> Mongo44: just type it into a terminal
[06:30] <mral3n> beldar: okay I'm installing fixparts now
[06:31] <Mongo44> It only lasts for about a minute then it gets brighter.
[06:31] <Gnea> so yeah, I'm a little rusty at this ;-)
[06:31] <mral3n> beldar: it says "The package is of bad quality" when tryinmg to install it
[06:31] <mral3n> trying"
[06:31] <Beldar> mral3n, Cool, the intructions are pretty much there and if run correctly should fix it while booted to the live xubntu and you can install.
[06:32] <apb1963> Gnea: I should probably mention I had one of these working earlier, and you're backing out the precise changes I made - which I made because of the link I mentioned that I used.
[06:32] <Gnea> apb1963: hahaha
[06:33] <Mongo44> How do I make that command last longer?
[06:33] <anaoum> exit
[06:33] <Gnea> Mongo44: put it into a script file and cron it
[06:33] <alfonsojon> Hello
[06:33] <alfonsojon> Is there any way to port Dust to GTK3?
[06:33] <alfonsojon> I'm using it on MATE and it looks fantastic, but some GTK3 apps look out of place.
[06:33] <apb1963> Gnea: OK, warnings have gone away (I added domain name in place of * in both spots)... but it's still not rendering properly
[06:34] <Mongo44> How do I do that?
[06:34] <Gnea> apb1963: check your logs and check permissions of the username that's actually running the httpd or apached daemons, the directories of the files you're serving, and the files themselves
[06:35] <Beldar> mral3n, you grab the amd deb?
[06:35] <mral3n> baledar: yep
[06:35] <Gnea> Mongo44: well first step is to write it up as a bash script. know how to use an editor?
[06:35] <Beldar> mral3n, Cool I just downloaded it and installed just to check nothing wrong here.
[06:35] <Mongo44> Nope.
[06:36] <mral3n> beldar: fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb .. I'll download it again just to be sure.
[06:36] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, if you go to your menu and accessories, you should find the gedit editor - bring that up first
[06:36] <apb1963> Gnea: I originally had the owner as apb... but changed it to www-data earlier in the hope that was the issue... it wasn't... so now I'm wondering if I want it back to apb?
[06:36] <Beldar> mral3n, You can use your tab key to complete nicks looks correct last post if the spelling is incorrect it wont notify me you have paosted to me. ;)
[06:37] <Mongo44> OK.
[06:37] <Gnea> apb1963: no, you were right to go to www-data.  actually, ps auxf | grep apache or ps auxf | grep httpd  should tell you who it's running as. hopefully it's www-data, in which case I would just chown all the files & subdirectories of /var/www to that
[06:37] <Beldar> mral3n, I'm taking off for about 45 min in 5 min, just so you know.
[06:38] <gtristan> Ok... what is the trick to installing the 32bit support low level stuff needed by gcc-4.6 ? i.e. the 32bit start stub (crtn.o) and -lgcc ?
[06:38] <Gnea> apb1963: but also make sure that they are world-readable
[06:38] <apb1963> world readable?  That sounds excessive
[06:39] <gtristan> for some reason my cross compiler on Ubuntu 12.04 doesnt work :-/ preventing me from building the 32bit libfuse package locally
[06:39] <Gnea> no. world-writable would be excessive
[06:39] <apb1963> that would be insane :)
[06:40] <Gnea> nah, it would be disturbing, for sure... if it was +x or +s, THEN insanity would be a key factor ;-)
[06:40] <apb1963> Keep in mind the problem here... it's not rendering properly at this point.... the graphics are missing for one thing... maybe the prime problem.
[06:40] <mral3n> Beldar, not sure how to use the tab nick thing, Kinda a noob when it to comes to this. Also while installing the tool I got a package operating failed.
[06:40] <Gnea> apb1963: have you checked your .html files to make sure that paths for graphics are lined up properly?
[06:40] <Mongo44> Gnea: I have Gedit open how do I write the bash script?
[06:41] <Gnea> Mongo44: well, the first line should look like this: #!/bin/sh
[06:41] <energizer1> I'm having wifi problems! Help!
[06:41] <apb1963> Gnea: it's a .index.php file.... and this worked earlier... I'm not sure what I did exactly...other than perhaps mess with directory directives
[06:41] <Gnea> Mongo44: press enter, and the next line should look like: echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[06:42] <Beldar> mral3n, how are you installing it?
[06:42] <Gnea> apb1963: does it have any actual php code in it?
[06:42] <anaoum_> exit
[06:42] <anaoum_> exit
[06:42] <mral3n> Beldar, nvm think I got it to work. Using the software center.
[06:42] <apb1963> interesting question... a moment
[06:42] <Beldar> mral3n, cool
[06:42] <Gnea> Mongo44: after you do that, save the file as my_brightness.sh
[06:42] <mral3n> Beldar, the nick thing is what I got to work. Not the tool. I was using the ubuntu software center btw.
[06:42] <Gnea> Mongo44: then close gedit and open a terminal, let me know when you are there
[06:43] <Beldar> mral3n, what errors do you see, it may need a dependency from the repo?
[06:43] <mikeshollen> if i am using command line through ssh, does gedit not work?
[06:44] <Mongo44> Ok I am ready.
[06:44] <Gnea> mikeshollen: not by default.  you're basically trying to run an X app on a remote system and have it pull the display to your screen, which is a separate networking transaction
[06:44] <mikeshollen> gnea, aha
[06:44] <mral3n> Beldar, Well I ignored the "quality" error and proceeded and it says the installation of a software package failed : (Reading database ... 153047 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:44] <mral3n> Unpacking fixparts (from .../fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb) ...
[06:44] <mral3n> dpkg: error processing /home/xubuntu/Downloads/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb (--install)
[06:45] <Gnea> mikeshollen: so you'd have to have ssh setup to accept such a transaction and allow your display to accept it
[06:45] <energizer1> mikeshollen: you could use nano or something instead (i.e. a text editor that uses the command line)
[06:45] <Gnea> mikeshollen: or you could just run vim or nano
[06:45] <energizer1> gnea high five
[06:45] <Beldar> mral3n, You running 64 bit?
[06:45] <Gnea> energizer1: :-)
[06:45] <mral3n> Beldar, yes sir.
[06:45] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay
[06:45] <mikeshollen> energizer1, replace gedit with nano?
[06:45] <Gnea> Mongo44: type:  ls -l   you should see your my_brightness.sh there. do you?
[06:46] <energizer1> mikeshollen: just use it instead. try opening up a command line ssh, then type nano to get the text editor
[06:46] <Gnea> mikeshollen: nano is easy-peasy to use
[06:46] <apb1963> Gnea: definitely php code.  I'm not running apache as www-data though.... and I changed the dir to reflect the proper owner and group... and now I'm back to "It works"... which is something of a lie.
[06:47] <Mongo44> I saved it in documents, I see the documents directory.
[06:47] <Beldar> mral3n, in the software ceter hit-edit-software sources-other software I believe and untick the cd and run a update than try again. If this works for installing it you have to turn the cd back on for the install.
[06:47] <Gnea> apb1963: I'm wondering... can you pastebin your 'root' apache config file?
[06:48] <Gnea> Mongo44: excellent. cd Documents  then  chmod 700 my_brightness.sh
[06:48] <Beldar> mral3n, cd on for xubuntu install that is, off for the update to be able to pull from the repos if needed for the fixparts install.
[06:48] <Mongo44> It is there if I do ls -l ~/Documents.
[06:49] <Beldar> mral3n, Anyway, I will be back in about 45 min or so.
[06:49] <mral3n> Beldar, ok thanks
[06:50] <vicky> hi ubuntu. I am using mts mblaze data card(india)  in ubuntu 12.04 for internet connection. First i tried with network manager. The network manager able to find the modem but couldnt connect with internet.Then i tried with wvdial.The mts modem takes too long to connect with wvdial. So i think the network manger trying with some limited timeout. Anyway to increase it?(i may wrong, suggestions?)
[06:50] <Mongo44> Ok I did that.
[06:50]  * gtristan finds package 'gcc-multilib' after much grepping of the web
[06:50] <apb1963> Gnea: I just got my original site working
[06:51] <apb1963> Gnea: By removing the listen and * directives
[06:51]  * gtristan yearns for the simpler days of LFS :-/
[06:51] <apb1963> stupid link
[06:51] <apb1963> I hate broken tutorials :/
[06:51] <Gnea> apb1963: is this a step in the right direction?
[06:51] <apb1963> Gnea: Definitely... but I have to wonder why apache is writing broken documentation
[06:51] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, now type: crontab -e
[06:52] <Gnea> apb1963: apache updates faster than the documentation can keep up, sometimes. the fact that it even has mostly decent documentation is pretty amazing, TBPH.
[06:53] <Gnea> Mongo44: if all goes well, you should see a bunch of ~ on the left side of the terminal. is that so?
[06:53] <Mongo44> This is supposed to be in the Documents directory, right?
[06:53] <Gnea> Mongo44: no, this can be typed anywhere
[06:53] <yairabr> hii im trying to wrine ubunu on an sd card for beaglboard-xm (new user), but after unzipping the image file i get an .raw file shouldnt i get .img file?
[06:53] <apb1963> Yeah, but the docs version matches the apache version
[06:54] <Gnea> Mongo44: at this point, you're accessing a protected region of the filesystem outside of your home directory
[06:54] <apb1963> so I find it hard to believe it could be so wrong
[06:54] <apb1963> anyway, that's a different complaint
[06:54] <Mongo44> It is telling me to select an editor and gives me three choices.
[06:54] <apb1963> One complaint per customer right?
[06:54] <Gnea> apb1963: I see... well, I don't know what to say about that! :-)
[06:54] <Gnea> lol
[06:54] <Gnea> Mongo44: what are the 3 choices?
[06:55] <yairabr> hii im trying to wrine ubunu on an sd card for beaglboard-xm (new user), but after unzipping the image file i get an .raw file shouldnt i get .img file?
[06:55] <Mongo44> no crontab for user - using an empty one.
[06:55] <Mongo44>   1. /bin/ed
[06:55] <Mongo44>   2. /bin/nano        <---- easiest
[06:55] <Mongo44>   3. /usr/bin/vim.tiny
[06:55] <Gnea> yairabr: not sure, but #ubuntu-arm probably knows
[06:56] <Gnea> Mongo44: yeah, go with choice 2
[06:56] <Gnea> Mongo44: now, you said that it resets the brightness every 5 minutes?
[06:57] <Mongo44> Probably less than that.
[06:57] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, let's go for broke then.  type this in:  */4 * * * *    /home/smuxi/Documents/my_brightness.sh   (I'm assuming that smuxi is your login)
[06:58] <Gnea> wow, I didn't realize that mame took longer to compile than a linux kernel does!
[06:59] <Mongo44> I am at the editor it is not letting me input commands.
[06:59] <Gnea> it should just let you type text
[06:59] <Gnea> which aren't commands
[07:00] <Gnea> all commands are used with the ctrl key (designated with the ^) which are shown at the bottom of the editor
[07:01] <Mongo44> I am not sure what to do. I am at a screen that gives me instructions for the editor.
[07:03] <Mongo44> This is what I got when I selected Write Out cntrl + o: File Name to Write: /tmp/crontab.rl1Pcy/crontab
[07:05] <apb1963> Mongo44: Save & Exit... it's probably ^S I'm guessing?
[07:06] <apb1963> Mongo44: Cancel that and do ^X  I belive that will save it automagically
[07:06] <apb1963> I don't know why people think nano is better for beginners
[07:07] <apb1963> and why they even offer ed as a choice is baffling
[07:08] <pvl1> does module-init-tools not exsist anymore
[07:08] <Mongo44> I just did the dimming command, I guess I will see if it lasts.
[07:10] <MrTea> Well here we are.
[07:11] <Mongo44> Damn, it didn't work.
[07:11] <SNK3> In linux is there a easier way than doing something like cp -v /path/to/file/file1 /path/to/file/file2 /destination/ ?
[07:12] <pvl1> SNK3: whats easier than typing and tab completion
[07:12] <MrTea> text test
[07:12] <SNK3> pvl1:  Is there a way not to type the paths all over again ?
[07:12] <SNK3> *not
[07:13] <MrTea> text test
[07:13] <apb1963> SNK3:  !$ will give you the last argument from the last command
[07:14] <SNK3> Is there a way to do something like cp -v /path/to/file/(file1, file2) /destination/
[07:14] <MrTea> text test
[07:14] <MrTea> damn it
[07:15] <apb1963> SNK3: I don't understand what you want to do
[07:15] <Mongo44> I am still trying to make this command permanent:  echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[07:15] <SNK3> apb1963: If I have multiple files in the same location (with different names) can I address them with a common path instead of typing out the path again ?
[07:17] <apb1963> SNK3: I still don't understand  what you want to do... but it sounds as if you want pattern matching.  * will match anything.
[07:17] <Gnea> Mongo44: well it should be there... were you able to exit nano?
[07:17] <Gnea> Mongo44: basically, it should run that script every 4 minutes
[07:19] <SNK3> apb1963: Ill give u an example, right now I want geany to open couple of files usually I would do  geany ~/.config/Thunar/accels.scm ~/.config/Thunar/thunarrc   But is there a easier way to do this ?
[07:19] <Mongo44> I exited ran the command and it didn't stick.
[07:23] <apb1963> Gnea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[07:24] <apb1963> SNK3: well, one obvious solution is to cd to that directory first... .then you don't need to type the dir over again
[07:25] <SNK3> apb1963: Any other way ?
[07:25] <apb1963> SNK3: so cd ~/.config/Thunar/
[07:25] <apb1963> SNK3: then geany accels.scm thunarrc
[07:25] <buu> SNK3: geany ~/dir/foo/{file1,file2}
[07:26] <apb1963> SNK3: buu's way is good too
[07:26] <buu> SNK3: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Pattern-Matching.html
[07:29] <SNK3> apb1963, buu: It opens {file1 and file2}
[07:30] <lovethecode> say I want to get some practice writing bash scripts... what are good problem exercises for this purpose?
[07:35] <MrTea> text test
[07:35] <apb1963> lovethecode: google "writing bash scripts" and you'll get about 9 milllion hits
[07:35] <apb1963> SNK3: Isn't that what you wanted?
[07:36] <SNK3> apb1963: Yes its theres an error it opens a file called "{file1"  and "file2}" Instead of opening "file1" and "file2"
[07:36] <apb1963> what shell are you using?
[07:37] <apb1963> SNK3: type echo $SHELL
[07:38] <SNK3> SNK3: /bin/bash
[07:38] <Mongo44> Gnea: I told crontab to read this: */4 * * * *    /home/smuxi/Documents/my_brightness.sh (inserting my user name) and it said the file doesn't exist. It is there when I search Documents.
[07:38] <apb1963> umm.. do file1 and file2 exist?
[07:39] <apb1963> though it shouldn't matter
[07:40] <SNK3> apb1963: Yes they do
[07:42] <apb1963> copy and paste the exact command you used
[07:42] <SNK3> geany ~/.config/Thunar/{accels.scm, thunarrc}
[07:43] <apb1963> do I detect a space after the comma?  lose it.
[07:44] <lucido> hello, I tried to set my login screen's resolution (lightdm) using this guide (xrandr): http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution . Problem is I get the "system is in low graphics mode" error
[07:45] <apb1963> lucido: Here, let me google that for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[07:47] <SNK3> apb1963: It works!  But thanks a lot
[07:47] <apb1963> SNK3: np.  it's usually the simple stuff that gets all of us
[07:50] <fishcooker> is there any possiblitiy to queue torrent download on transmission-cli?
[07:50] <Mongo44> Gnea: Is there any chance you got the time prefix wrong?
[07:50] <AB49K> Transmission has a CLI?
[07:51] <AB49K> xD
[07:51] <fishcooker> yes AB49K
[07:52] <fishcooker> transmission-cli
[07:52] <AB49K> Well I wish I knew that 2 months ago ^_^ hahaha
[07:52] <fishcooker> i don't know how to queue a lot torrent
[07:52] <fishcooker> anyone please elaborate
[07:52] <fishcooker> that's cool even combined with screen would be great
[07:52] <lucido> apb1963, yes I've read that and none of those solutions apply for me, I can reproduce the error easily with the two modifications described in http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution and should not result in that error
[07:52] <fishcooker> headless AB49K
[07:54] <lucido> I'll reproduce it and look at X logs
[07:56] <Gnea> Mongo44: not likely, I use the same for one of my script (it's every 5 minutes, like so:  */5 * * * *
[07:58] <Gnea> Mongo44: make sure you set it correctly:  crontab -l
[08:01] <Mongo44> This is the command I put into the file: #!/bin/sh
[08:01] <Mongo44> echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[08:02] <Mongo44> It keeps telling me it is not found when I ask crontab to read it.
[08:05] <Gnea> Mongo44: what is the result of this command: ls -l /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/
[08:08] <Mongo44> I forget how to use pastenbinit.
[08:09] <Beldar> !pastenbinit
[08:09] <Gnea> !pastebinit
[08:10] <Gnea> hours later, mame finished compiling... now to see if it actually works
[08:10] <PatrickDickey> Wouldn't five minutes be something like */12 ? I think */5 is every 12 minutes.
[08:11] <Gnea> No.
[08:11] <Gnea> man 5 crontab
[08:12] <PatrickDickey> Got it. I was mistaken. It's been a while since I've done anything in my crontab.
[08:14] <PatrickDickey> Well, wouldn't the fact that his command requires sudo be an issue? Since typically you have to enter your password for sudo to work. Maybe do something like sudo crontab -e, and put it in as root.
[08:15] <Mongo44> Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6539472/.
[08:15] <apb1963> hideous
[08:15] <pvl1> where does ubuntu cache debs
[08:16] <Gnea> pvl1: the same place debian does
[08:16] <Gnea> pvl1: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:16] <pvl1> ty Gnea
[08:16] <Vivekananda> hello everyone how are you doing ?
[08:17] <Vivekananda> how do I encrypt a file in ubuntu by default
[08:17] <Gnea> Vivekananda: how do you want it to be encrypted?
[08:18] <Vivekananda> I was trying to find out more options for making things secure 1. if laptop is stolen I wanted to not enable easy reading of the hard drive  2. I want to encrypt files / folders in a way ( any way) that requests a password before they are opened
[08:19] <Vivekananda> if possible I would love to have an option that if a password was entered wrongly more than two times then an automatic email is created and sent with the timestamp and such
[08:19] <Gnea> assuming that it was hooked up to the internet, perhaps
[08:20] <Gnea> at that point, you wouldn't want to encrypt a file but the filesystem
[08:21] <shaun__> !encrypt | Vivekananda
[08:21] <Gnea> Mongo44: oh, you'll need to mv that shell file to root's home directory and set it up to run in root's crontab
[08:22] <apb1963> Gnea: Is there a reason he's got sudo tee in the script?
[08:23] <Gnea> apb1963: because he needed sudo to access the sys file, I imagine... it is rather silly to request a password from a non-interactive shell
[08:24] <Gnea> Mongo44: also, get rid of the sudo command on root's end
[08:26] <lucido> can xrandr set the refresh rate, it's not in the man page
[08:27] <apb1963> Gnea:  this is messed up...  the docs for both 2.2 which I'm using, and 2.4 have the exact same instructions.... which I've followed and which don't work.  Throwing out the non-working part for both sites, results in only one site working.  I know it's something dumb and easy, but I'll be a monkeys uncle if I can find it.
[08:27] <Mongo44> How should I do that?
[08:28] <gry> Hi. Is there GUI for kvm?
[08:29] <Gnea> Mongo44: sudo mv ~/Documents/my_brightness.sh /root
[08:29] <jmgk> hi gry
[08:29] <Gnea> Mongo44: then:  sudo -i && crontab -e
[08:29] <jmgk> :)
[08:29] <jmgk> veta :D
[08:29] <jmgk> Svta
[08:29] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:29] <gry> jmgk: wrong channel…
[08:30] <Gnea> Mongo44: sudo -i, then enter, and crontab -e after you get the # prompt
[08:30] <Gnea> Mongo44: don't do the && part
[08:30] <jmgk> oh wrong person
[08:30] <jmgk> sorry I was looking for another
[08:32] <Mongo44> sudo -i doesn't seem to do much.
[08:34] <Mongo44> No it works now is the select editor prompt.
[08:34] <Mongo44> Should I go with nano again?
[08:35] <apb1963> Mongo44: Yes
[08:36] <apb1963> actually pick vim.tiny ... at least then I could help you
[08:36] <Mongo44> Now what do I tell crontab to read?
[08:36] <quantumpants> guys, ive had this come up when trying to update my stem, im a newbe and not sure how to deal with it. any help gratefully appreciated. E:Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[08:38] <apb1963> Mongo44: put echo 50 |  /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness in the file, hit ^X which should save and exit.
[08:38] <Mongo44> That doesn't include the time though.
[08:39] <apb1963> right... ignore me
[08:39] <apb1963> I was thinking about what you were editing
[08:39] <apb1963> wasn't
[08:39] <impradeepy> quanttumpants: restart and use sudo-apt-get autoremove,,,,sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get upgrade
[08:39] <Gnea> Mongo44: */4 * * * * /root/my_brightness.sh
[08:40] <apb1963> yeah, that
[08:40] <impradeepy> exlcude -
[08:40] <impradeepy> in between sudo and apt
[08:41] <Mongo44> Damn it, it still says it is not found.
[08:41] <apb1963> make it executable
[08:41] <apb1963> Mongo44:  ll /root/my_brightness.sh
[08:42] <apb1963> show output
[08:43] <quantumpants> E:Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) how do i fix this guys?
[08:43] <apb1963> derp
[08:44] <Mongo44> Permission was denied. That mean I have a virus or something? I should be able to access everything right?
[08:44] <apb1963> quantumpants: impradeepy said to do sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:44] <Beldar> quantumpants, line 60 in gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:45] <apb1963> Mongo44: what does your prompt look like?  Is it # or $
[08:46] <quantumpants> how to do that, will try, sorry im a newb .
[08:46] <yash069> quantumpants: cat -n /etc/apt/source.list | grep 60
[08:46] <yash069> give this output
[08:47] <yash069> paste it here, should be a single line hopefully
[08:47] <Mongo44> Right, here it is: -rwx------ 1 home home 77 Dec  8 02:48 /root/my_brightness.sh*
[08:48] <apb1963> Mongo44: type sudo /root/my_brightness.sh
[08:48] <malt> Hello, I bought a used PC and it come with ubuntu linux and the CPU load wants to stay around 100 percent with orginal os just xchat installed and temp goes to 120F does that sound like a bad CPU? its a AMD 64 3400+
[08:49] <Mongo44> Ok, that make it permanent?
[08:49] <apb1963> Mongo44: No.  what happened?
[08:49] <impradeepy> malt: try to clean your fan first
[08:49] <yash069> malt: check for the running processes.
[08:50] <malt> I have with system monitor it shows anything i open stays at 100 percent on that process
[08:50] <malt> its very slow on any software
[08:50] <Mongo44> It executed: echo 50 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[08:50] <impradeepy> malt:u can reduce cpu usage by removing useless applications on startups
[08:50] <malt> its default just xchat installed
[08:51] <apb1963> Mongo44: remove "sudo tee" from that file
[08:51] <impradeepy> malt:go to dash and open startups
[08:51] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, leave the tee part
[08:51] <Gnea> just get rid of sudo
[08:52] <apb1963> Gnea: Why?
[08:52] <Beldar> malt, You should be running a live cd/usb if you want to check it, and remove what is there already.
[08:52] <malt> same thing on live cd i downloaded
[08:52] <malt> showed firefox at 100%
[08:52] <Gnea> apb1963: because it needs to take the 50 and pass it on
[08:53] <malt> run from cd
[08:53] <apb1963> Gnea: he doesn't need to see it from crontab, does he?
[08:53] <Beldar> malt, ##hardware is the channel you need then.
[08:53] <impradeepy> malt:if you want to see by default hidden apps at startups then use this.. sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop and now you will able to see all hidden apps
[08:53] <Gnea> apb1963: he just doesn't need to have 'sudo' in the script anymore
[08:53] <malt> I got a extra processor you think its worth a try, I don't think ubuntu would take that much resources
[08:54] <Beldar> startup apps will hardly cause this problem on a live cd and a install.
[08:54] <apb1963> Gnea: tee serves no purpose in the context he's using it
[08:54] <Gnea> apb1963: he's passing '50' on through a pipe torward the brightness file - he needs to have a way to grab that data from the pipe and put it into the file
[08:54] <impradeepy> beldar:i just wanna to free some ram
[08:54] <apb1963> Gnea: That's what the echo does
[08:54] <Gnea> apb1963: otherwise the script will assume that 'brightness' is an executable command
[08:54] <Mongo44> Without sudo permission is denied.
[08:55] <Gnea> apb1963: no, echo just creates '50' and places it into a buffer
[08:55] <deanrock0> hi, any idea how can i solve this:./configure: line 4362: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(USB, libusb-1.0 >= 1.0.0,,'
[08:55] <apb1963> Gnea: it's not executable?
[08:55] <Beldar> impradeepy, they should be on ##hardware for this.
[08:55] <deanrock0> I have libusb 1.0.0 and libusb-devi nstalled
[08:55] <Gnea> apb1963: no, it's a sys file, it's a direct communication link with the hardware
[08:56] <impradeepy> beldar:whats the use of ubuntu one it takes 35Mb??
[08:56] <apb1963> Gnea: Wait... he just wants to create a file with a 50 in it?
[08:56] <Gnea> apb1963: he wants to pass the value of '50' onto brightness so that his screen won't go dim on him automatically
[08:57] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone I am trying to loadbalance traffic across two interfaces, by adding two default routes with a nexthop option., But when I use the equalize flag, I get the error. 'either to is duplicate or equalize is a garbage'
[08:57] <Beldar> impradeepy, this is hardly a fix for what the problem is.
[08:57] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, let's try something - did you edit the .sh file and remove sudo? you should be inside of a 'root shell' now
[08:57] <quantumpants> apb1963, beldar, yash069  this is line 60: deb http://archive.canonical.com/precise partner
[08:58] <Mongo44> What I am trying to do is dim the screen below the lowest given setting.
[08:58] <Gnea> okay
[08:58] <Gnea> either way, it needs to stick
[08:58] <yash069>  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[08:58] <yash069> this is the correct
[08:58] <impradeepy> beldar: hardly but it will help, and by disabling useless running apps on startups reduces ram spaces, cpu usage, and then we look for the hardwares compatibility , right??
[08:59] <yash069> quantumpants: change the line to  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[08:59] <impradeepy> malt:http://askubuntu.com/questions/78951/how-do-i-remove-a-malformed-line-from-my-sources-list should solve it
[09:01] <Mongo44> Gnea: I edited the file, my_brightness.sh
[09:01] <impradeepy> quantumpants:http://askubuntu.com/questions/78951/how-do-i-remove-a-malformed-line-from-my-sources-list should solve it
[09:01] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, it should have on the 2nd line: echo 50 | tee /sys/blahblah/blah/brightness
[09:02] <Mongo44> Any reason it has that name, could it be anything?
[09:02] <impradeepy> sorry by mistake earlier i posted above link for mate
[09:02] <Mongo44> That is correct.
[09:02] <Gnea> Mongo44: figured it was appropriate for what you're trying to do to make it easier to remember later on
[09:03] <Gnea> Mongo44: okay, then quit and try running the script by itself: ./my_brightness.sh
[09:03] <Gnea> see if it errors
[09:06] <Mongo44> Yeah, permission denied.
[09:06] <quantumpants> its now line 61 E:Malformed line 61 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[09:07] <apb1963> Mongo44: do sudo /root/my_brightness.sh  does that work or give an errror?
[09:07] <quantumpants> now this line (61) is wrong! deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/precise partner
[09:08] <Gnea> Mongo44: what is the output of this command:  id
[09:09] <Mongo44> uid=1000(home) gid=1000(home) groups=1000(home),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[09:09] <Mongo44> apb1963: It works in ~#
[09:10] <impradeepy> mongo44:which version of ubuntu are u usin?
[09:10] <quantumpants> yash069 this is the current line 61: deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/precise partner
[09:10] <apb1963> apb1963: And so it should work in crontab ... except that he prolly needs the full path to tee
[09:10] <apb1963> oh look i'm typing to myself
[09:10] <apb1963> Mongo44: And so it should work in crontab ... except that he prolly needs the full path to tee
[09:11] <apb1963> oh look now I'm typing to him
[09:11] <apb1963> lol
[09:11] <impradeepy> bi lol
[09:11] <impradeepy> big lol
[09:11] <yash069> quantumpants: change it to http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[09:11] <apb1963> I can barely keep my eyes open... I shouldn't be here
[09:11] <apb1963> Gnea: And so it should work in crontab ... except that he prolly needs the full path to tee
[09:11] <yash069> quantumpants: deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[09:12] <impradeepy> apb1963: ur solution is right :)
[09:12] <Mongo44> It is probably still temporary.
[09:14] <Mongo44> Alright what should I put into crontab?
[09:14] <asdk> hey guys can someone help me setup a crontab
[09:14] <asdk> ?
[09:14] <asdk> lol mongo same issue?
[09:15] <impradeepy> quantumpants: why are you wasting ur time and mind on editing source list?just resart it use purge,autoremove clean ur system first then start to update it because its no use to update if previuos unsitalled is totally removed from the system
[09:15] <quantumpants> that worked yash069, thanks :)
[09:15] <yash069> quantumpants: :)
[09:16] <Mongo44> Yeah, I am working with this command: echo 50 | tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[09:16] <asdk> is it in an sh script
[09:16] <asdk> you can only run scripts via cron
[09:16] <asdk> i have my script ready
[09:16] <apb1963> Mongo44: all fixed now?
[09:16] <asdk> but im having issues with the path
[09:18] <apb1963> asdk: vague
[09:19] <quantumpants> impradeepy im not very good with computers, im still learning :)
[09:19] <apb1963> asdk: Is there an error message?  what are you trying to accomplish?  what have you tried?  what is it, or is it not doing?
[09:19] <Mongo44> It does seem to be lasting a long time, I think it could be. In the future if I want this brightness I just have to rerun this command right?
[09:19] <asdk> sorry, ive set up cron with crontab -e, and i enter @reboot //home/admin2/run.sh
[09:20] <asdk> ive given permission to the script
[09:20] <asdk> chmod +x
[09:20] <asdk> and when i reboot the computer
[09:20] <apb1963> Mongo44: the purpose of putting it in the crontab file was so that cron will run it for you, every 4 minutes.
[09:20] <asdk> it fucks up the whole system for some reason, and i can no longer boot into my ubuntu
[09:20] <asdk> its very strange
[09:20] <asdk> it must be a path issue
[09:20] <kostkon> !language | asdk
[09:20] <geirha> asdk: what does run.sh contain?
[09:20] <asdk> sorry.
[09:21] <Gnea> Mongo44: when you type this command, what is the output?  crontab -l
[09:21] <geirha> asdk: If it makes any assumptions on what PWD is, then yes, it could've messed up your system
[09:21] <impradeepy> quantumpants:then you must first start with beggining you are editing source list??its not good for you to just copy and paste and solve your solution all i want to tell you that you should do it properly thats it
[09:21] <asdk> its a simple script, just exports the display, and starts cgminer, a mining program
[09:22] <Gnea> if [ ${PWD} != ${HOME} ]; then cd
[09:22] <geirha> asdk: and you're running it as which user?
[09:22] <asdk> there is only one user, admin2
[09:23] <geirha> asdk: Ok, and cgminer runs forever without backgrounding itself?
[09:23] <quantumpants> impradeepy, im always one for doing thinks the correct way, i just don't know how to most of the time. i really appreciate the help i get from you guys on  #ubuntu
[09:23] <asdk> yes
[09:23] <asdk> it just runs forever in a terminal window
[09:23] <asdk> i normally ssh into the system and run the script from my machine
[09:24] <geirha> asdk: then I'd consider running it in a screen
[09:24] <jjp> hai
[09:24] <asdk> sorry what do you mean "running it in a screen"
[09:25] <geirha> asdk: @reboot cd ~ && screen -d -m -S cgminer ./run.sh
[09:25] <jjp> == DaryL
[09:25] <impradeepy> quantumpants:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[09:25] <DaryL> mmh ?
[09:25] <asdk> and that will bring up a terminal window and run the script?
[09:26] <geirha> asdk: screen will provide a terminal for it, yes, and that screen will run in the background
[09:26] <geirha> asdk: you can connect to that terminal by running  screen -x cgminer
[09:26] <asdk> is there anyway i can run the script the same way as i ssh into the system?
[09:27] <asdk> cause when i run the script with the onscreen terminal sometimes it makes the rig unstable and it crashes
[09:27] <asdk> but i never encounter errors when i ssh and run it
[09:27] <geirha> asdk: onscreen terminal?
[09:27] <asdk> viewing the desktop
[09:27] <asdk> ctr alt T
[09:27] <asdk> terminal comes up
[09:27] <asdk> and i run the script
[09:27] <FloodBot1> asdk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <geirha> asdk: why does it need DISPLAY anyway?
[09:27] <quantumpants> thanks impradeepy. how do I update the latest data from my local server? so i can get this system fully running smoothly ?
[09:28] <asdk> it needs exportdisplay=:0 to export all gpus of the graphics card
[09:29] <geirha> asdk: Ah ok, then running it via cron won't work at all
[09:29] <asdk> oh =/
[09:29] <asdk> anyway i can set that up with ssh?
[09:29] <geirha> asdk: You have to run it after the X server has been started, so the place to put it is in startup applications
[09:30] <geirha> then it'll run when you log in graphically
[09:31] <asdk> but I would prefer not to run it on the computers graphic display, because i get massive gpu rendering errors, and that eventually crashes the machine, if i ssh, then it also gets gpu rendering errors, but it can still process/"mine"
[09:32] <asdk> is there no way to automate my ssh connection, running of the script remotely?
[09:33] <impradeepy> quantumpants: u will get updates automatically  time to time just use software updater or use sudo apt-get updates
[09:34] <impradeepy> quantumpants: use sudo apt-get chache show package name to see whats the latest version available on your official repository, for example if u want to check for firfox then use sudo apt-get cache show firefox
[09:36] <daaku> i'm seeing apt-get update pull i386 package indexes with lines like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted" -- is there a way to prevent this? i only need amd64 and this seems to slow down apt-get update quite a bit, and it's pretty impactful when testing stuff with debootstrap
[09:36] <geirha> asdk: there is, but it will fail if the remote end hasn't started the X server yet
[09:36] <impradeepy> quantumpants: or try this sudo apt-cache show package name
[09:37] <asdk> perhaps i can delay the script until the x server has started?
[09:42] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, I'm trying loadbalancing two pppoe connections with sudo ip route add default scope global nexthop dev ppp0 weight 1 nexthop dev ppp1 weight 1, but it's only working for speedtest.net
[09:43] <Bumptiou_> Hello.  I am trying to add a catalyst driver to lubuntu 13.10, and it looks like only precise is available
[09:43] <Bumptiou_> i'm not sure how to add it as a source
[09:44] <jjp> hai
[09:46] <jjp> i cannt get ubuntu to display the shutdown window in my system ,any help?
[09:52] <DF3D2> I just wanted to thank you guys for making a linux OS that all my stuff was auto-detected and "just" works been banging my head against the wall for 2 days trying to make stuff work elsewhere
[09:54] <AB49K> I prefer debian, but I also have used ubuntu and I like it :)
[09:54] <DF3D2> I tried debian and nothing worked right
[09:54] <DF3D2> this laptop was 'too new' for it I guess
[09:54] <AB49K> Debian can be a little hard to get working lol
[09:55] <DF3D2> my wifi card is supported under ath9k but it just would not work on debian
[09:55] <DF3D2> no matter what I did
[09:55] <CookieM> debian needs some tuning to make it work properly
[09:55] <AB49K> But when you get it working, It's rock solid - and really good for servers :)
[09:56] <DF3D2> I had been using freebsd for awhile, and I got wifi to work on that. The maintainer actuall helped me via email, but I couldn't ever get flash to work -- it uses some linux compatibility layer
[09:56] <DF3D2> and who wants a laptop where you can't watch videos
[09:56] <AB49K> My laptop doesn't even have a GUI installed ._.
[09:57] <CookieM> yeah, ubuntu makes it work out-of-the-box
[09:57] <DF3D2> yeah, I installed ubuntu desktop just to test, but i'm gonna switch to xfce I don't like unity.
[09:57] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, I'm trying loadbalancing two pppoe connections with sudo ip route add default scope global nexthop dev ppp0 weight 1 nexthop dev ppp1 weight 1, but it's only working for speedtest.net
[09:57] <DF3D2> my ethernet NIC isn't working, but it didn't work in freebsd/debian either. it's "too new" I guess
[09:57] <DF3D2> i dont really care, since my wifi works -- it is a laptop afterall
[09:58] <DF3D2> I came this close to having to install windows, heh i'd have been pissed
[10:00] <DF3D2> whoa, the touch screen on this thing even works
[10:01] <DF3D2> that's pretty cool
[10:02] <CookieM> DF3D2: which ubuntu are you using
[10:11] <DF3D2> so what is the easiest way to have a secondary screen be a set resolution, like I want to be able to use 1080p via hdmi on my hdtv when I connect this laptop, but the laptop screen is 1366x768
[10:16] <bekks> DF3D2: which GPU do you use?
[10:18] <DF3D2> bekks, it's just intel integrated hd4000
[10:19] <kostkon> DF3D2, easiest way? You set up the external monitor in system settings -> displays
[10:20] <DF3D2> kostkon, awesome
[10:20] <DF3D2> seeing you on the 70" tv now
[10:20] <DF3D2> :-D
[10:20] <kostkon> DF3D2, nice
[10:25] <DF3D2> okay here is what I don't get, I can mirror the displays but I don't exactly want that. If I select above,below,etc it has no task bar etc on the one that isn't primary or whatever
[10:25] <DF3D2> like, i'd like to have a movie playing on the tv and browse the net on the laptop
[10:26] <bekks> DF3D2: Then dont mirror, but "place" the TV "next" to your laptops screen (in the display settings), and just move the movie player window onto the TV.
[10:27] <DF3D2> bekks, place next to ?
[10:29] <DF3D2> okay I see I can drag windows, between the two that is really cool, but it keeps defaulting to the HDMI connection (tv) to have the primary display, taskbar etc
[10:32] <Trenton> hey
[10:32] <Trenton> yo draNOV