[02:47] <nalioth> ericz: md5 checksums are an integral part of *nix
[02:47] <ericz> i dont know where to find those md5sums  or whatever
[02:48] <nalioth> ericz: they are on the same page you d/l the iso from
[02:48] <ericz> i didn't see them
[02:48] <TylerDurden> when i try to do admin->printing it says CUPS could not be started
[02:48] <TylerDurden> contacted*
[02:48] <nalioth> ericz: scroll down on the page
[02:48] <ericz> ohH!
[02:49] <ericz> when on windows xp, and i explore the cd, should i see anything?
[02:49] <bimberi> yes
[02:49] <ericz> it was just empty, but there was space taken on the cd
[02:49] <ericz> 600 something mb taken, but exploring - it was a blank window
[02:49] <TylerDurden> bimberi when i try to go to system->admin->priting it claims that the CUPS server could not be contacted
[02:49] <K-Rich> seems i can't use ffmpeg to capture from my webcam at /dev/video0 cause of no v4l1 , only v4l2
[02:49] <Hobbsee> ericz: it should show you that there's ubuntuetc.iso on there
[02:49] <foXgamer> erick: Try selecting show all files, or show hidden files.
[02:50] <ericz> i did choose show hidden files
[02:50] <bimberi> TylerDurden: sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys start
[02:50] <ericz> was just empty, but theres like 600+ mb taken
[02:50] <nalioth> ericz: check your md5
[02:50] <ericz> im trying to
[02:50] <nalioth> ericz: you in windows atm?
[02:50] <TylerDurden> not working bimberi
[02:51] <bimberi> "not working"?
[02:51] <AaronMT> Hey when breezy comes out and we download the updates automatically, does it update the kernel too?
[02:51] <TylerDurden> same error
[02:51] <ericz> im in redhat8
[02:51] <ericz> atm
[02:51] <foXgamer> AaronMT: Yes it will
[02:51] <phiqtion> how can i see the a folder in my home directory which starts with a . ?
[02:51] <foXgamer> phiqtion: Go into the menu and select show hidden files
[02:51] <TodFlanders> tyler can you acces the latop? If so can you just email it and open it their, I know it doesnt answer your question but if you need it printed soon it may be easier
[02:51] <nalioth> ericz: ah, you should be able to run "md5sum /dev/cdrom0" or whatever your cdrom device is
[02:52] <phiqtion> foxgamer, thanks bro
[02:52] <nalioth> phiqtion: in a terminal or gui?
[02:52] <TylerDurden> TodFlanders, thats what i tried, but the fonts and page were messed up, thats why i want to print off my computer
[02:52] <TodFlanders> what application
[02:52] <Hobbsee> phiqtion: you can type in the file path too, and it will get it
[02:52] <TodFlanders> openoffice?
[02:52] <TylerDurden> windows is using word
[02:52] <TodFlanders> export to pdf
[02:52] <TylerDurden> oh good idea ill try that
[02:53] <bimberi> TodFlanders: good thinking!!! :)
[02:53] <TodFlanders> and open in adobe on windows, open office will pdf it and keep fints
[02:53] <TylerDurden> theres no pdf option
[02:53] <ericz> getting md5sum...
[02:53] <ericz> its being all slow
[02:53] <windex> yes there is, TylerDurden
[02:53] <windex> its not in the print settings, its under save as pdf, or export to pdf
[02:53] <windex> can't remember.
[02:53] <TodFlanders> under file, export to pdf in Oo
[02:53] <ericz> how long should it take to run "md5sum /dev/cdrom"
[02:54] <erick> gud morning GUYS hows your morning
[02:54] <TylerDurden> oh i looked under save as
[02:54] <windex> ericz, awhile.
[02:54] <ericz> great
[02:54] <ericz> i haven't wasted enough time
[02:54] <TodFlanders> hehe I havent got my printer up either, to lazy and pdf has saved me a few times
[02:54] <windex> ericz, just smile and reflect on how great life has been so far to where you can be worried about things like installing an OS on a PC.
[02:55] <bimberi> beautifully put windex
[02:55] <ericz> ha
[02:55] <nalioth> ericz: just a few minutes
[02:55] <ericz> the whole gpgp pgpgp commands or whatever were being weird on me
[02:55] <ericz> i skipped that step :P
[02:56] <Turco_Guitar> hi all, linux lovers...
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hello :)
[02:56] <ericz> i can run md5sum on the .iso file
[02:56] <Turco_Guitar> how r u
[02:56] <ericz> and it should be identical right?
[02:56] <foXgamer> hey Turco_Guitar & Hobbsee
[02:57] <Hobbsee> hi foXgamer
[02:57] <ericz> the uh cd drive stopped being loud... and theres still been no output from the md5sum /dev/cdrom command
[02:57] <Kris_k> on DamnSmallLinux you think i can run wine ? lol
[02:57] <hircus> hi all
[02:57] <Turco_Guitar> hi foXgamer
[02:57] <hircus> anyone running an AMD Turion laptop here?
[02:57] <Hobbsee> hircus: no, but what do you want to know?
[02:57] <ericz> [root@localhost eric] # md5sum /dev/cdrom
[02:57] <ericz> md5sum: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error
[02:57] <hircus> I get a similar error to this:
[02:57] <hircus> http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0510.0/0458.html
[02:57] <ericz> perfect
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  in fact i am
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  its a Compaq V2311
[02:58] <hircus> Dr_Willis: I've not tried Ubuntu on this laptop, but older kernels (on Fedora, at least) works fine with no_timer_check
[02:58] <nalioth> ericz: it may be cdrom0 or cdrom1 or seomthing
[02:58] <hircus> Dr_Willis: ah. I have the L2000 - same computer, pretty much
[02:58] <ericz> k its worth the 1.5 - 2 months of waiting for shipped cd's
[02:58] <ericz> cdrom0 and cdrom1 dont exist
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> use the  'noapic' and 'nolspic'  - is what i needed to do
[02:59] <ericz> and the cd drive was being noisy when i ran it on 'cdrom'
[02:59] <hircus> Dr_Willis: installed using the RC install ISO..  :P even under windows.. it just works cruddy
[03:00] <ericz> im trying to md5sum the iso now
[03:00] <warpforge> Help: Evolution 2.4.1 won't send via SMTP:
[03:00] <warpforge> (evolution:19322): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL parameter.
[03:00] <warpforge> (evolution:19322): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed
[03:00] <warpforge> camel-imap-provider-ERROR **: file camel-imap-command.c: line 180 (imap_command_start): assertion failed: (store->ostream)
[03:00] <hircus> somebody claimed that it worked on Fedora if you pass some funny settings. not that important yet though
[03:00] <windex> warpforge, do not paste.
[03:00] <hircus> Dr_Willis: is this on i386 or AMD64?
[03:00] <ericz> [root@localhost eric] # md5sum ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso
[03:00] <ericz> b9b73ed7aebdd0fdf5bfdfe26d6679de  ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso
[03:00] <Hobbsee> ericz: even from windows, you should see ubuntu_5.10_whatever.iso as being on the cd.  windows wont know how to open it, but you should definetly be able to see it from windows explorer, without showing hidden files
[03:00] <ericz> yeah i couldnt see it on windows
[03:00] <warpforge> I'm on 5.10 i686
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  its kernel bugs/issues we are dealing with here.. im using the i386 disrto of ubuntu. the 5.10 release.
[03:01] <ericz> i used some weird program to burn the cd
[03:01] <windex> ericz, if you can't see it on windows the image and/or cd is hosed. have you tried making another copy? this one might just be a coaster
[03:01] <ericz> id never heard of the program but it had bootable image burning which apparently doesnt work
[03:01] <nalioth> ericz: check your md5 on the .iso image you downloaded
[03:01] <ericz> i did nalioth
[03:01] <ericz> [root@localhost eric] # md5sum ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso
[03:01] <ericz> b9b73ed7aebdd0fdf5bfdfe26d6679de  ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386.iso
[03:01] <windex> erick, you just have to burn the image. you do not need to do anything special with the bootable part, the image is bootable already
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> 'burn at once' is a nice tool for windows to burn iso files.
[03:01] <hircus> Dr_Willis: will have to try that when I have time. Does X work with the vesa driver without the noapic, nolspic settings? that's probably my problem
[03:01] <windex> err
[03:01] <cafuego_> ericz: Does that match the published md5sum?
[03:01] <windex> ericz,
[03:02] <ericz> uhh let me check
[03:02] <hircus> Dr_Willis: I probably don't want to mess with 3D acceleration for now .. unless there are .debs for those online
[03:02] <warpforge> Can anyone help me with my libcamel problem?
[03:02] <ericz> yes
[03:02] <cafuego_> ericz: Is localhost already running Ubuntu?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  yea it worked for me.. clock was too fast :P however.. i THINK ya need to change the vesa to 'ati' and   enabvle the 'no hardware acell' option however.
[03:02] <ericz> no
[03:02] <ericz> redhat8
[03:02] <cafuego_> ericz: aiyee ;-)
[03:02] <ericz> heh
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  took me 2 min to get the ati stuff working from the repos.
[03:02] <cafuego_> ericz: Did you bun it under redhat?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:02] <ericz> im going to wait on shipit
[03:02] <ericz> no windows
[03:02] <hircus> ah. so the auto-detected settings actually work (Ubuntu chose ati for me)
[03:03] <hircus> Dr_Willis: so I have to manually edit xorg.conf and pass .. err, what's the no hardware accel option
[03:03] <ericz> see-ya.... ill be back in 2 months when shipit delivers 'em and spaz out about how great breezy is
[03:03] <ericz> thanks for trying to help :/
[03:03] <windex> ericz, i think your problem can still be fixed.
[03:03] <hircus> Dr_Willis: Option "NoAccel" .. got it
[03:03] <ericz> im too lazy to reburn
[03:03] <hircus> Dr_Willis: thanks a bunch!
[03:04] <ericz> later
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> hircus,  or just install the flgrx stuff -- much easier :P
[03:04] <warpforge> Now, how about my Evolution issue...
[03:04] <windex> he clearly hasn't spent much time burning cd's. i have about a 5% coaster rate.
[03:04] <windex> heh
[03:04] <hircus> Dr_Willis: the driver's different, though, right?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> not sure on the 64bit disrto . im useing the 32.
[03:04] <hircus> Dr_Willis: or is the fglrx Debian package for both the normal ATI cards *and* the X200 ?
[03:04] <hircus> Dr_Willis: oh, I'm using the 32-bit distro
[03:04] <foXgamer> windex: hehe. You're right there! I have a mobile of them
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> i used the ubuntu 32bit packages.. followign the ubuntu binary driver howto/wiki
[03:05] <hircus> Dr_Willis: Sticking to Fedora for now on 64-bit (triple-booting), I don't want to have to install a chroot to get Flash
[03:05] <warpforge> fglrx doesn't mention support of X200
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> warpforge,   i know.. i was suprised when it worked.
[03:05] <zucchi3> Where do you recommend to go to download free applications and games?
[03:05] <hircus> warpforge: yup, as far as I know ATI still has two separate drivers
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> but its working on my V2311  x200m even.
[03:06] <windex> zucchi3, uh, synaptic is pretty much your best bet. :)
[03:06] <hircus> Dr_Willis: the packager probably packaged both drivers. The Livna.org packager for Fedora said that since ATI promised the drivers will be merged, he didn't want to do it
[03:06] <hircus> Dr_Willis: but many thanks!
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> at least you know theres HOPE!
[03:06] <hircus> got to go try this out now.
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:06] <zucchi3> any good websites???
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> zucchi3,  google.com :P
[03:06] <zucchi3> k
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> 'linux game tome'
[03:06] <foXgamer> zucchi3: Go to http://sourceforge.net/index.php
[03:07] <warpforge> Can someone please help with my Evolution / libcamel issue?
[03:07] <zucchi3> k
[03:07] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: synaptic as well, it has plenty of descriptions
[03:07] <Hobbsee> warpforge: not enough info for anyone to help you
[03:07] <warpforge> Whenever Evolution sends via SMTP on my system, Evolution crashes.
[03:08] <warpforge> Running Evo via shell reveals an assert failure
[03:08] <warpforge> in libcamel
[03:08] <warpforge> This didn't happen before
[03:09] <warpforge> What am I supposed to do? There's obviously a problem with my libcamel, but I can't force the version back in Synaptec.
[03:10] <warpforge> Stuff like this shouldn't be breaking this late in Breezy.
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> warpforge, its always like this ... first week of release is usually full of bugs
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> we are not even in release yet ...
[03:14] <warpforge> I know, but it's silly that a bug like this is in the repository 2 days before release
[03:15] <ajmitch_> and have you filed a bug?
[03:15] <warpforge> Not yet. I'm going to replace my libcamel to see if it fixes it first.
[03:16] <warpforge> I'm getting a newer version from Debian
[03:16] <brenner> er, using debian packages is a no-no afaik
[03:17] <ajmitch_> and what was the assertion failure?
[03:17] <sydw_> anyone having trouble with mozilla-firefox packages?
[03:17] <martincho> Hi, cant use opengl headers on ubuntu
[03:17] <warpforge> one sec
[03:17] <martincho> how can I get it?
[03:17] <sydw_>  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[03:17] <ajmitch_> martincho: hoary? breezy?
[03:18] <warpforge> Here's the assertion failure:
[03:18] <warpforge> camel-imap-provider-ERROR **: file camel-imap-command.c: line 180 (imap_command_start): assertion failed: (store->ostream)
[03:18] <krax> ubuntu has no root account?
[03:18] <warpforge> nope
[03:18] <martincho> well, dunno, the free cd of ubuntu
[03:18] <warpforge> well, sorta no
[03:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> where can i get w32codecs.deb?
[03:18] <martincho> Im new at this
[03:18] <krax> i mean i can sudo stuff
[03:18] <krax> but as far as just logging on as root and stuff you cannot right?
[03:18] <ajmitch_> warpforge: put that in the bugreport, please :)
[03:19] <krax> how do i activate the universe mirrors in synaptic?
[03:19] <brenner> krax: yes, it's disabled by default
[03:19] <warpforge> FlyingSquirrel: Win32 codecs: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[03:19] <brenner> ubotu: tell krax about root
[03:20] <DMFDSandman> how much space should i partition for ubuntu?
[03:20] <brenner> krax: mirror?  or just enabling it?
[03:20] <wabble> krax: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , remove the # in front of what you want
[03:20] <warpforge> krax: you have to set the root password if you really want to use root
[03:20] <warpforge> You really don't ever need true root access
[03:20] <krax> brenner-im trying to troubleshoot a dns problem. i just install breezy and i can go to ubuntu's ws but nothing else
[03:20] <krax> everything else is timing out
[03:21] <krax> so i have net access.. i can ping sites and go to that site using the ip address from a ping
[03:21] <krax> however, the name resolution is ineffective as it just times out
[03:21] <sydw_> package updates for mozilla-firefox have destroyed firefox
[03:21] <sydw_> i have no web browser
[03:21] <Hobbsee> sydw_: you're updating to 1.0.7?
[03:21] <sydw_> :-(
[03:21] <sydw_> Hobbsee, yes
[03:21] <wabble> sydw_: install epiphany
[03:22] <Hobbsee> nah, you dont have to do that
[03:22] <warpforge> Here's the trick for fixing FF: remove the firefox and mozilla-firefox packages. They conflict. Then, select mozilla-firefox and install it.
[03:22] <zucchi3> I don't know what setting I changed but now, everytime I open Synamptic Package Viewer I get this error message - W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <zucchi3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <zucchi3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <zucchi3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <zucchi3> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:22] <brenner> zucchi3: DONT paste in here
[03:22] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: pastebin!
[03:22] <Madpilot> !tell zucchi3 about pastebin
[03:22] <krax> any suggestions?
[03:22] <zucchi3> What should I do?
[03:22] <warpforge> krax: what do you get for "dig google.com"?
[03:22] <wabble> sydw_: repair don't work? Does it show up under broken in synaptic?
[03:23] <Hobbsee> sydw_: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox firefox
[03:23] <Toma-> flood-arific
[03:23] <Hobbsee> sydw_: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[03:23] <warpforge> so what hobbsee said
[03:23] <Hobbsee> sydw_: and it will work beautifully :)  Everyone had that problem
[03:23] <zucchi3> what should I do?
[03:23] <warpforge> But this firefox issue is a BIG problem. It broke my dist-upgrade to Breezy
[03:23] <brenner> DMFDSandman: up to you....typcial install is 1.5Gb iirc.....you might want to create a seperate home partition as well
[03:24] <sydw_> Hobbsee, thanks.
[03:24] <krax> brenner-any idea about this dns issue i'm having?
[03:24] <Hobbsee> sydw_: no problems :) tell us how it goes
[03:24] <warpforge> zucci: run "sudo apt-get update"
[03:24] <zucchi3> how
[03:24] <zucchi3> ?
[03:24] <warpforge> either click "refresh" in synaptec
[03:24] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: in a console
[03:24] <DMFDSandman> brenner, thanks
[03:25] <warpforge> or type what I quoted in a console
[03:25] <brenner> krax: no....i have no clue about network issues. sorry
[03:25] <brenner> krax: warpforge seems to be able to help though
[03:25] <krax> unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?
[03:25] <warpforge> do you have update manager running?
[03:25] <warpforge> close it
[03:25] <krax> ok.. one sec
[03:26] <AES_24_96> anyone bored enough to help out a noob?
[03:26] <krax> how do i close it?  im a newb sorry :(
[03:26] <krax> right clicking isn't working
[03:26] <foXgamer> what's the problem AES_24_96 ?
[03:26] <EPSONLX300> i need to know what driver i used for EPSON LX 300 ? for ubuntu 5.04 ?
[03:26] <warpforge> krax: you have to close the warning box first
[03:26] <martincho> I have Hoary, how can I install opengl headers?
[03:26] <nalioth> AES_24_96: just ask the channel a question
[03:26] <RockyBurt> hm.. .why is it that on breezy right now if i apt-get a new pkg, it doesn't update my menu until after i log out and log back in again?
[03:26] <krax> they're all closed
[03:27] <zucchi3> thanks
[03:27] <AES_24_96> foXgamer, Im installing for the first time, I burned the ubunto cd in Nero, and had it make it a boot disc
[03:27] <EPSONLX300> anybody can help me?
[03:27] <warpforge> krax: you don't see anything open on your task bar?
[03:27] <AES_24_96> when I boot with it, I cant find on the cd any file to invoke to start the installation
[03:27] <EPSONLX300> i need to install my driver for printer
[03:27] <nalioth> RockyBurt: you can restart your gnome-panel
[03:27] <krax> task bar on the top right i do have the updater
[03:27] <krax> but i can't close it for some reason
[03:27] <mustard5> AES_24_96, which version?
[03:27] <RockyBurt> nalioth: hrm, but i shouldn't have to do that, should i?
[03:27] <warpforge> krax: the icon in the tray isn't a problem
[03:27] <krax> ok
[03:28] <warpforge> only when you have the main window open
[03:28] <AES_24_96> hoary hedgehog
[03:28] <krax> alright
[03:28] <nalioth> RockyBurt: no you shouldnt
[03:28] <krax> the icon is there
[03:28] <mustard5> k
[03:28] <warpforge> krax: it's red?
[03:28] <krax> i was told to fix this problem i need to install resolvconf, pump and dnsmasq
[03:28] <krax> yes
[03:28] <foXgamer> AES_24_96: Burning the disk with the iso file would make the cd bootable so you shouldn't need to invoke any files.
[03:28] <nalioth> RockyBurt: but we all suffer the same problem
[03:28] <krax> i just install breezy about 4 hours ago
[03:28] <krax> haven't messed with it too much
[03:28] <EPSONLX300> nobody cares my probs
[03:28] <EPSONLX300> :(
[03:28] <warpforge> krax: you shouldn't have to install anything to get basic DNS functionality
[03:28] <zucchi3> In Synaptic Package Manager - whats the difference between multiverse, universe, and the ones that have neither??
[03:28] <krax> right but check this out
[03:29] <warpforge> are you on a wired connection?
[03:29] <krax> yes
[03:29] <foXgamer> what is the prob EPSONLX300 ?
[03:29] <warpforge> okay
[03:29] <warpforge> krax: can you ping your DNS server?
[03:29] <AES_24_96> foXgamer I tried buring it as an iso, and it wouldnt even boot then
[03:29] <krax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5690
[03:29] <AES_24_96> foXgamer I sahould say this is a dual boot setup
[03:29] <dooglus> AES_24_96: is your BIOS set up to boot from the CD first?
[03:29] <AES_24_96> yes
[03:29] <warpforge> krax: reading your post
[03:29] <EPSONLX300> i ask what is the right driver for this EPSON LX 300 for linux?
[03:29] <foXgamer> Dual boot shouldn't matter.
[03:29] <mustard5> AES_24_96, burning it as an iso is what you are meant to do
[03:29] <EPSONLX300> im newbie foXgamer
[03:29] <AES_24_96> it boots fine if I use the nero boot disk thing
[03:29] <krax> ok what im trying to do is step one
[03:30] <rubem> hi there all
[03:30] <zucchi3> anyone??
[03:30] <foXgamer> and you would like help EPSONLX300 ?
[03:30] <dooglus> AES_24_96: what does "boots fine" mean to you?
[03:30] <EPSONLX300> its my pleasure foXgamer
[03:30] <AES_24_96> it goes tro dos and lets me type stuff
[03:30] <RockyBurt> nalioth: so is this a recent bug? because i seem to recall this working last week
[03:30] <AES_24_96> if I boot off just the iso it says non system disk, replace with system disk
[03:30] <rubem> i've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?
[03:30] <dooglus> AES_24_96: going into DOS isn't "fine".  you want it to go into the ubuntu installer...
[03:30] <EPSONLX300> help me out to print my printer EPSON LX 300
[03:30] <zucchi3> anyone?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: google it
[03:30] <nalioth> RockyBurt: really? on some pkgs i've never had it work
[03:31] <zucchi3> ok
[03:31] <dooglus> AES_24_96: if you boot into windows and look at the contents of the disk you burned as an ISO, what do you see?
[03:31] <warpforge> krax: If you're having problems with changing DNS configurations, I recommend installing "network-manager." It will configure a local DNS server and abstract away the configuration changes from your main Linux network system.
[03:31] <AES_24_96> dooglus, ok how do I make it go into the ubuntu installer, it wont boot from the iso for me, though itll boot if I drop system disk files on no problem
[03:31] <brenner> zucchi3: er, no need to google:
[03:31] <zucchi3> ok
[03:31] <brenner> ubotu: tell zucchi3 about components
[03:31] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: Printer eh? I don't know anything, but give me a min and I'll see what I can find out. I get a printer tomorrow so I would like to know too :)
[03:31] <krax> ok how do i do that?
[03:32] <warpforge> krax: do you want synaptec or console instructions?
[03:32] <EPSONLX300> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:32] <krax> whichever is easier
[03:32] <krax> console
[03:32] <warpforge> okay
[03:32] <krax> hit me with the console.. i might as well get used to it right
[03:32] <dooglus> AES_24_96: did you see my question?
[03:33] <warpforge> first, "sudo apt-get update" (this is just to get you up to date)
[03:33] <AES_24_96> dooglus md5sum.txt, README.diskdefines, ubuntu and some directories
[03:33] <zucchi3> ????????
[03:33] <warpforge> krax: oh wait... you'll have trouble with repositories if your DNS doesn't work
[03:33] <krax> well it's getting the ones that are directly from ubuntu
[03:33] <krax> for some reason
[03:33] <warpforge> okay
[03:33] <dooglus> AES_24_96: ok, that's how it should be.  i don't know why it isn't working.  do you have another CD drive you could try?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> brenner: thanks for that, didnt know that it was a command
[03:33] <krax> let me see if it works
[03:33] <Toma-> are the ubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop deb's just dummy packages?
[03:33] <wastrel> hello my precious little darlings
[03:33] <AES_24_96> maybe
[03:34] <rubem> i've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?
[03:34] <warpforge> krax: then, "sudo apt-get update," if you haven't already
[03:34] <AES_24_96> copuld there be something in my bios which wont allow iot to see linnux or something?
[03:34] <krax> i am trying.. it worked earlier now it's resolving security.ubuntu to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:34] <warpforge> krax: second, "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[03:34] <dooglus> AES_24_96: try booting it in a different PC.  it won't install anything until you tell it to - just booting is OK
[03:34] <warpforge> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:34] <AES_24_96> ok
[03:34] <AES_24_96> bbiab
[03:34] <rubem> i've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?
[03:35] <brenner> wastrel: you in the right channel? ;)
[03:35] <krax> 0ackage network-manager is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:35] <krax> is only available from another source
[03:35] <krax> E: Package network-manager has no installation candidate
[03:35] <Xenguy> haha
[03:35] <eXcentra> Hi guys. I'm trying to extract some files from an archive but the filenames are in a foreign language and so it won't let me extract them. How can I extract them?
[03:35] <rubem> i've received an update warning, the warning says to me to update the kernel image, is it safe?
[03:35] <krax> the update is done but i get that when i try to install network-manger
[03:35] <krax> manager*
[03:35] <Xenguy> rubem: should be, yes
[03:35] <kevogod> rubem, Usually.
[03:36] <warpforge> krax: one sec
[03:36] <mustard5> rubem, what program is notifying you of the update?
[03:36] <warpforge> krax: have you enabled "universe"?
[03:36] <Xenguy> rubem: I believe I already did (hoary) - so far so good
[03:36] <brenner> rubem: what's your current kernel, and what's it suggesting?
[03:36] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: Try at http://www.linuxprinting.org/epson-faq.html#s_17
[03:36] <kevogod> Has Rhythmbox ceased to work for anyone in Breezy? I get a Segmentation Fault now.
[03:37] <krax> nope
[03:37] <warpforge> krax: do this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[03:37] <warpforge> wait
[03:37] <warpforge> sorry
[03:37] <warpforge> that's for hoary
[03:37] <Hobbsee> !faq
[03:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[03:38] <Hobbsee> there are lists of repositories for breezy there
[03:38] <warpforge> krax: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:38] <warpforge> krax: uncomment the "universe" repositories
[03:39] <Seveas> !tell warpforge about ubuntuguide
[03:39] <EPSONLX300> okey foXgamer
[03:39] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: Did that help?
[03:39] <Toma-> when installing a kernel update, do you need to reconfigure the nvidia drivers package?
[03:39] <krax> ok
[03:39] <Toma-> or anything crazy liek that?
[03:39] <zblach> hello
[03:39] <zblach> !ping
[03:39] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, zblach.
[03:39] <rubem> breener: sugesting 2.6.10
[03:39] <krax> now giv eit a go?
[03:39] <muszek> hello
[03:39] <Toma-> *like
[03:39] <mustard5> Toma-, commercial drivers I thin kyou do
[03:39] <rubem> mustard5: the ubuntu
[03:39] <warpforge> krax: then, "sudo apt-get update"
[03:39] <Toma-> rightio thanks
[03:40] <warpforge> (once you've saved)
[03:40] <eXcentra> I'm trying to extract some files from an archive but the filenames are in a foreign language and so it won't let me extract them. How can I extract them?
[03:40] <dooglus> eXcentra: what kind of archive?
[03:40] <krax> why doesn't it have all of the rep's uncommented to begin with?
[03:40] <krax> ok apt-get update is done
[03:40] <muszek> I just ran apt-get dist-upgrade (1 hour left)... should I expect some kind of a small disaster?
[03:40] <krax> now sudo apt-get install network-manager?
[03:40] <warpforge> krax: universe is only semi-supported
[03:40] <eXcentra> dooglus, rar
[03:41] <dooglus> eXcentra: you can probably tell it to extract all the files - then you won't have to type the names...
[03:41] <EPSONLX300> w8
[03:41] <brenner> rubem: default is 2.6.10 (do a uname -a to check)...it's probably a minor update
[03:41] <dooglus> eXcentra: rar x <archive>
[03:41] <mustard5> sounds pretty normal rubem
[03:41] <warpforge> krax: now, "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[03:41] <warpforge> it'll bring everything in line
[03:41] <wastrel> i'm having a situation wrt my printer, insofar as i can't print from kghostview
[03:41] <EPSONLX300> i am trying to print
[03:41] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: I hope it works
[03:41] <warpforge> krax: finally, "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[03:42] <eXcentra> dooglus, worked like a charm. Thanks a bunch! :D
[03:42] <krax> it has about 100 megs of stuff to download first
[03:42] <warpforge> yeah
[03:42] <EPSONLX300> after this will work i need to share to this in network thats my next questions
[03:42] <dooglus> eXcentra: glad I could help :)
[03:42] <krax> is this stuff pretty much sequential?  as in i need to finish doing all of this before i can install the network manager right?
[03:42] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: That I can't help you with. I know nothing about networks :(
[03:43] <warpforge> krax: it's sequential
[03:43] <dooglus> eXcentra: see also the nonfree-rar - I forget the exact package name - but it can open more .rar files than the free one
[03:43] <sydw_> Hobbsee, that worked great, thank you! I did have to re-install mozilla-mplayer yelp and ubuntu-desktop
[03:43] <chris_619> Hello everyone
[03:43] <warpforge> krax: you can't have two things using the package manager at once
[03:43] <EPSONLX300> :(
[03:43] <chris_619> I'm a linux noob
[03:43] <foXgamer> hey chris_619
[03:43] <krax> so the fact that isntalling network-manager earlier did not work is probably because i had not done this yet?
[03:43] <chris_619> Hey foxgamer
[03:43] <mustard5> chris_619, ask any questions you like
[03:43] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: There are plenty of people here that know about networks. Someone should be able to help :)
[03:43] <chris_619> Awesome!
[03:43] <warpforge> it's because you didn't have the repository enabled that has network-manager in it
[03:44] <Hobbsee> sydw_: awesome! :)
[03:44] <sydw_> the lovely "Update alert" applet has vanished from my top panel. How can I put it back?
[03:44] <krax> which was the universal ones?
[03:44] <brenner> chris_619: ubuntu-related would be good of course :)
[03:44] <warpforge> yes
[03:44] <chris_619> OK, number one, how do I get realplayer to work?
[03:44] <EPSONLX300> okey i will try to print if your links work
[03:44] <Hobbsee> sydw_: you probably have nothing more to update.  it will come back when it has packages for you to update
[03:44] <mustard5> !tell chris_619 about realplayer
[03:44] <sydw_> Hobbsee, ok, i get it!
[03:45] <Hobbsee> sydw_: it's this whole idea of "dont stick rubbish on the desktop if it's not needed or being used" which is awesome!
[03:45] <krax> which rep can i get xmss from?  or just apt-get install xmss?
[03:45] <sydw_> Hobbsee, thanks, I appreciate that!
[03:45] <chris_619> It doesn't necessarily have to be realplayer, anything that will play movies and music will do
[03:45] <keffynd> any chance that Ubuntu will or can include Ham Radio software in the repositories like SuSe Linux does?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> sydw_: no problems
[03:45] <warpforge> krax: It's xmms, for starters. I recommend beep-media-player over xmms.
[03:45] <mustard5> chris_619, use totem
[03:45] <EPSONLX300> well done foXgamer
[03:46] <EPSONLX300> thank you very much
[03:46] <AES_24_96> ok my other pc will also boot off the nero disk no problem but not the ubuntu disk
[03:46] <AES_24_96> do I need fpu compatiable thing on in bios or something?
[03:46] <foXgamer> EPSONLX300: It worked? oh cool! Glad it did :)
[03:46] <warpforge> krax: "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player" will install beep
[03:46] <krax> do i need to install various codecs, etc before it can play all the formats?
[03:46] <mustard5> chris_619, totem-xine will play movies
[03:46] <warpforge> (and xmms)
[03:46] <EPSONLX300> next questions how can i share this to other networks?
[03:46] <AES_24_96> is there a way besides cd to install ubuntu?
[03:47] <MEtaLpREs> does anyone know if the kubuntu breezy release will also be on the 13th? or is it being delayed?
[03:47] <TylerDurden> seethru, r u here?
[03:47] <krax> the upgrades are almost done, brb
[03:47] <warpforge> k
[03:47] <Orborde> Is there an Ubuntu BitTorrent tracker list thingy somewhere where I can view the torrent's status?
[03:48] <Kris_k[1] > im trying to install dsl on my laptop but my menu.lst is blank :( and when i try to boot from the HD i get grub loading.... and thats it
[03:48] <bimberi> AES_24_96: yes there is - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[03:48] <Sherman> hehe 1.5 days
[03:48] <AES_24_96> cool
[03:48] <TylerDurden> can someone help me with point2play and css?
[03:48] <chris_619> mustard_5, is there any particular way I have to configure Totem? It doesn't seem to recognize mpegs
[03:48] <keffynd> will breezy be an update option? I have just installed the current ubuntu
[03:49] <Hobbsee> keffynd: it's called dist-upgrade
[03:49] <cafuego_> keffynd: Yes.
[03:49] <Hobbsee> !tell keffynd about breezy
[03:49] <transparentdream> I have the quake2 and quake2-data pkgs installd, where can I find the actual game files?
[03:50] <bimberi> transparentdream: dpkg -L quake2 (or whatever the packages were called)
[03:50] <wastrel> ok.
[03:50] <wastrel> hello
[03:50] <wastrel> i <3 u
[03:50] <foXgamer> right. I'm off to ked. nn all
[03:50] <transparentdream> bimberi, for both pkgs?
[03:50] <xxtreme> sector10_ u there
[03:50] <TylerDurden> how can i access root's trash without logging into root?
[03:51] <bimberi> transparentdream: one at a time - it will list what files were installed
[03:51] <rubem> hey:
[03:51] <warpforge> why does root have trash?
[03:51] <rmj> reboot and log in using rescue mode
[03:51] <rubem> qemu or vmware?
[03:51] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey all. I'm having a problem. Simple one. My resolution won't go above 640x480
[03:51] <transparentdream> ok, now what?
[03:51] <HrdwrBob> !resolution
[03:51] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:51] <Xyc0> Hey guys, is it worth upgrading to Breezy yet?
[03:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Crys_Ubu_PC about fixres
[03:51] <nalioth> Xyc0: yes. go for it
[03:51] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Thank you nalioth I can always count on you.
[03:51] <muszek> join #ubuntu2
[03:52] <brenner> transparentdream: you need a copy of the game. :)
[03:52] <Xyc0> nalioth Is the RC stable as Hoary?
[03:52] <brenner> they're on the cd iirc
[03:52] <transparentdream> brenner: GAH! is there somthing free i can put instead?
[03:52] <sydw_> backwards typing in evolution composer -- its crazy -- has anyone experienced that?
[03:52] <bimberi> transparentdream: you asked where the files were...
[03:52] <nalioth> Xyc0: it runs purty good on my two machines
[03:53] <transparentdream> bimberi: sorry for not being clear i guess
[03:53] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:53] <xxtreme> nalioth_ i need help with irssi
[03:53] <nalioth> 108mb
[03:53] <Xyc0> nalioth: Thanks a ton, Im a little skeptic cause I messed with it a few months ago and had to reinstall Hoary
[03:53] <bimberi> transparentdream: np :)
[03:53] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: cube is good game that is free and is like Quake
[03:53] <nalioth> xxtreme: ask the channel
[03:53] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:53] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: how do i get it?
[03:53] <zucchi3> I don't understand how to download and run programs - for instance, I just downloaded the new beta version of Firefox for Linux. Now, how do I install it or open it?? - PLEASE HELP!!!
[03:53] <sydw_> damn keyboard layout never changes, keyboard never changes, but letters come out sdrawkcab <-- like that
[03:53] <wulfy814> anyone familiar with SATA hotswap ?
[03:53] <wulfy814> I have a drive rack that supposedly supports it
[03:54] <wulfy814> if i unmount the HD
[03:54] <wulfy814> and pull it, will I hurt anything?
[03:54] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:54] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: with synaptic
[03:54] <nalioth> wolverian: unmount any drives you are gonna hotswap
[03:54] <Aven> hello
[03:54] <wastrel> ok my printer is working - no thanks to you lot
[03:54] <nalioth> wulfy814: unmount any drives you are gonna hot swap
[03:54] <Aven> I'm using ubuntu as a webserver and..
[03:54] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/
[03:54] <Hobbsee> zucchi3: ie, download it from there, and it will install
[03:54] <Aven> I have Perl installed but how do I load it in my apache conf?
[03:54] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:54] <zucchi3> how with synaptic??????????
[03:55] <zucchi3> I'll try??
[03:55] <wulfy814> nalioth: I gathered as much, but do you know if there are any known issues?
[03:55] <Hobbsee> open it, point and mark the ones to install
[03:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zucchi3 about synaptic
[03:55] <Hobbsee> go have a look
[03:55] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: thx
[03:55] <nalioth> wulfy814: nope. just unmount
[03:55] <transparentdream> oh wait
[03:55] <phiqtion> where can i know where the amsn package downloaded itself to from easy ubuntu?
[03:55] <nalioth> phiqtion: easy ubuntu website should provide help for you
[03:56] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: How do i install? ./configure make make install or wut?
[03:56] <nalioth> phiqtion: we've seen too many boxes screwed up from easyubuntu
[03:56] <zucchi3> I can't find it on synaptic - I think because it's a beta version. I have the file already.  I got it from their site. Now how do I use it?
[03:56] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: i think it is already compiled
[03:56] <phiqtion> nalioth, u dont recommend easy ubuntu?
[03:56] <wulfy814> next silly question....
[03:56] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: unpack it and run the script
[03:56] <xxtreme> anyone know how why systems is crashing after I made transparency in irssi? I configured my xorg conf files and enabled transparency, it was real slow so I changed it back to default, now kdialog send me a message when i reboot, saying the system crashes? any ideas?
[03:56] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: ok, i'll try it
[03:56] <wulfy814> I have some software that I compile from source (Asterisk)
[03:57] <wulfy814> I don't want it to break when I do "apt-get upgrade"
[03:57] <wulfy814> can I pin the kernel
[03:57] <wulfy814> so it will only upgrade the rest of the system?
[03:57] <warpforge> wulfy: you can, but i have no idea what it will do
[03:57] <nalioth> wulfy814: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[03:57] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: Where should i unpakc it to , anywhere?
[03:58] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: i just unpacked to my home folder
[03:58] <Crys_Ubu_PC> nalioth, You rock. ubotu, You rock more.
[03:58] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: doesnt really matter
[03:58] <krax> is kubutu effectively just a kde based ubutu?
[03:59] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> krax: yes, with no gnome
[03:59] <krax> k
[03:59] <warpforge> krax: yes
[03:59] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: It Worked! but one problem: it runs at 10 fps...I;ve got an ATI radeon 9800 pro, it should run fine!
[03:59] <krax> so i can do everything that synaptic can do from the command line?
[03:59] <wulfy814> thank you nalioth and warpforge
[03:59] <Hobbsee> krax: yep
[03:59] <wulfy814> does the kernel get upgraded often?
[03:59] <warpforge> krax: largely
[03:59] <warpforge> krax: synaptec just makes it easier
[04:00] <warpforge> krax: synaptex has a few search features what aren't built into apt
[04:00] <bimberi> Hobbsee: use the mouse :)
[04:00] <wastrel> <3 apt
[04:00] <Hobbsee> bimberi: hehehehe...that's true
[04:00] <phiqtion> whats the correct name for sypantic? apt get says it doesnt find it
[04:00] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: you need graphic acceleration
[04:00] <Hobbsee> bimberi: who needs mice...or touchpads...for installing software
[04:00] <Sherman> grr, someone has already registered my nick
[04:00] <wastrel> synaptic > dselect
[04:01] <Hobbsee> phiqtion: synaptic
[04:01] <macgeek> Sherman: is it registered? you can recover it
[04:01] <macgeek> darn too late
[04:01] <nalioth> wulfy814: this is YOUR box, you can pin what you like and do anything you like. keep in mind if you do anthing wild, we might not be able to help you
[04:01] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: And what am i missing that i dont have it already>
[04:01] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: there is not very good support for ATI stuff
[04:01] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: bah       should i just try to run my regular onboard card then?
[04:01] <bimberi> Hobbsee: too true! :)
[04:01] <kevogod> Well, the drivers DO work
[04:01] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[04:01] <moshe> is anyone here having a problem with backports?
[04:01] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: look in the howto in the ubuntu forums for ATI graphic acceleration
[04:01] <wulfy814> nalioth: I appreciate your help, I am looking to build a relatively stable box for asterisk, but I don't want to have to worry about security updates
[04:01] <transparentdream> moshe: I am
[04:02] <Aven> hmm
[04:02] <wulfy814> so I was thinking of doing apt-get upgrade in the cron
[04:02] <warpforge> krax: so, how are you using freenet and the repositories if your DNS is down?
[04:02] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: ok...thanks
[04:02] <Aven> how do you make files in ACSII mode?
[04:02] <brenner> transparentdream: try installing the driver
[04:02] <moshe> transparentdream, any ideas why?
[04:02] <wulfy814> but was worried it would automatically update the kernel and break asterisk
[04:02] <transparentdream> moshe: no clue
[04:02] <wulfy814> by so doing
[04:02] <kevogod> I am having a problem with Rhythmbox for no apparent reason, keeping getting a Segmentation Fault
[04:02] <nalioth> wulfy814: dont let it see the net
[04:02] <brenner> ubotu: tell transparentdream about ati
[04:02] <warpforge> wulfy: do not do that
[04:02] <transparentdream> brenner: how
[04:02] <moshe> hmmm
[04:02] <krax> im assuming because both of them determine the ip prior to use and run off of that
[04:02] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[04:02] <Xenguy> Aven: find and use a text editor ?
[04:02] <krax> i can go to yahoo if i type in the ip address i get from pinging the dns name
[04:02] <propagandhi> rubem: theres better IDE's than tulip
[04:02] <krax> no pictures pop up or anything like that
[04:03] <wulfy814> warpforge: and nalioth: I think I see a downside to the wonder of apt-get then, I must know what I'm doing to use it
[04:03] <Aven> Xenguy: I mean like...
[04:03] <wulfy814> unless I'm going to run a "stock" "standard" system
[04:03] <chjchjchj> Greets...am in the right place to ask a q about installing ubuntu?
[04:03] <Aven> I already have the files and it says to make put them in ACSII mode
[04:03] <wulfy814> with everything installed from the approved repositories
[04:03] <wulfy814> otherwise I run the risk of breaking things
[04:03] <Trashcan> yes chjchjchj
[04:03] <Xenguy> chjchjchj: yep
[04:03] <warpforge> wulfy: you just don't want to have auto installs of every upgrade
[04:03] <phiqtion> how can get synaptic working on ubuntu?
[04:03] <Trashcan> it shoudl be working automagically
[04:03] <Trashcan> whats the problem?
[04:03] <ishtvan22> transparentdream: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65276 i think that is what you need
[04:04] <Sherman> lol my boss keeps walking into the store :P
[04:04] <phiqtion> trashcan, here in gnome it doesnt appear in the menu
[04:04] <Sherman> and my nick is registered already :(
[04:04] <zblach> hi
[04:04] <transparentdream> ishtvan22: kk
[04:04] <chjchjchj> ta...old-ish laptop with no floppy, no cd...no other pc handy...currently has a windoze 98 partition, so I can get to dos etc...is there a way to use partition magic create a little boot partition and install from the hdd?
[04:04] <wastrel> i hate printing problems on linux
[04:04] <warpforge> wulfy: look at the "cron-apt" package
[04:04] <zblach> a few quick questions.
[04:04] <rubem> propagandhi like what?
[04:05] <bimberi> phiqtion: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager ?
[04:05] <zblach> 1) How to set default applications for extensions? i.e. .mp3 w/ xmms
[04:05] <Kris_k[1] > im trying to install dsl on my laptop but my menu.lst is blank :( and when i try to boot from the HD i get grub loading.... and thats it
[04:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell zblach about defaultapp
[04:05] <warpforge> zblach: right click on a file and go to properties
[04:05] <Xenguy> !install
[04:05] <ubotu> install is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[04:06] <warpforge> zblach: there's a tab for the default program
[04:06] <rubem> propagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?
[04:06] <zblach> warpforge, thanks. that was totally painless
[04:06] <zblach> 2) setting up an FTP server
[04:06] <Xenguy> zblach: vsftpd is worth a look I hear
[04:06] <brenner> chjchjchj: Xenguy's link was for you
[04:06] <bimberi> zblach: vsftpd seems to be regularly recommended
[04:07] <rubem> propagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?
[04:07] <Trashcan> zblach: vsft... damn you guys typing fast
[04:07] <warpforge> zblach: "sudo apt-get install vsftpd"
[04:07] <chjchjchj> nobody ever used the dosutil/autoboot stuff on other dirtros? anyone know howto for ubuntu?
[04:07] <krax> brenner-working like a charm
[04:07] <transparentdream> How do I see what kernel I'm currently running
[04:07] <krax> both beep and the dns problem i was having earlier
[04:07] <kevogod> I think Blackjack is rigged.
[04:07] <rubem> propagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?
[04:08] <krax> beep media player gives me an error that says i need to enable plugins but then it goes and plays the song
[04:08] <krax> so i just checked the shits that said not to warn me again
[04:08] <Xenguy> !tell chjchjchj about install
[04:08] <andrewfk> best ide is vim
[04:08] <bimberi> transparentdream: "uname -r" in a terminal
[04:08] <Trashcan> agreed
[04:08] <TylerDurden> how come i cant eject the cd when the ut2k4 install asks me to insert cd 2?
[04:08] <warpforge> krax: do you have all the gstreamer packages installed?
[04:08] <krax> no
[04:08] <brenner> krax: good to hear....although i didn't help you with either of them. :)
[04:08] <bimberi> kevogod: just like in a casino :)
[04:08] <krax> err im a retard
[04:08] <krax> lol
[04:08] <krax> its late
[04:08] <zblach> warpforge, cool. is it easy to set up?
[04:08] <brenner> warpforge, krax no need.....bmp has it's own codecs iirc
[04:08] <warpforge> tyler: you have unmount the disk
[04:08] <krax> warpforge,  :)
[04:08] <wastrel> pls 2 help me with my linux printing
[04:08] <wastrel> printing
[04:08] <TylerDurden> warforge how do i do that?
[04:09] <rubem> propagandhi which is your best php ide? eclipse?
[04:09] <Trashcan> wastrel set up us the bomb
[04:09] <ishtvan22> TylerDurden: when i installed ut2k4 i copied the install script
[04:09] <warpforge> tyler: right-click on the disk on your desktop or anywhere else
[04:09] <warpforge> tyler: click "Unmount"
[04:09] <warpforge> it will eject
[04:09] <zblach> take off every wastrel
[04:09] <wastrel> for great justice
[04:09] <TylerDurden> warforge.. thats what i mean when i say it wont let me eject
[04:09] <warpforge> ah
[04:09] <TylerDurden> it says its busy, but ut2k4 asks me to insert ccd 2
[04:09] <wastrel> that's a pretty good secret password
[04:10] <kevogod> TylerDurden, You have to unmount from the terminal and force it
[04:10] <TylerDurden> eject?
[04:10] <TylerDurden> i mean is that the comand?
[04:10] <warpforge> tyler: kevo's suggestion probably requires sudo
[04:10] <benkong2> hey folks what would cause me not to be able to ssh into my *nix* box from my lan? No firewall I think. Fresh breezy install
[04:10] <Xenguy> TylerDurden: yeh
[04:10] <krax> whats the package name for all the codecs necessary to play divx avi and wmv files?
[04:10] <starscalling> help >_<
[04:10] <Trashcan> hmm
[04:10] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:10] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:10] <TylerDurden> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[04:10] <wastrel> i send you this message in order to have your advice
[04:10] <warpforge> benkong: breezy indeed has no firewall
[04:10] <Xenguy> krax: w32codecs
[04:10] <Sherman> bah, someone else has already registered my nickname with a password I dont know, so that freenode howto doesnt work :P
[04:10] <starscalling> i cant seem to get a successful build on install XML::parser
[04:10] <Trashcan> sudo umount -f /media/cdrom0
[04:11] <kevogod> sudo umount -f /media/cdrom0
[04:11] <warpforge> benkong: have you installed the SSH server?
[04:11] <starscalling> i get all kinds of errors :/
[04:11] <Trashcan> winnneerr
[04:11] <kevogod> ..
[04:11] <TylerDurden> umount2: Device or resource busy
[04:11] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:11] <TylerDurden> umount2: Device or resource busy
[04:11] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:11] <Trashcan> ...touche
[04:11] <benkong2> warpforge; good question let me check
[04:11] <Trashcan> you sudo -f?
[04:11] <TylerDurden> yeah i copy pasted
[04:11] <Trashcan> sudo *and* -f
[04:11] <kevogod> Try -l
[04:11] <Trashcan> oh, weird
[04:12] <TylerDurden> -l doesnt do anything
[04:12] <kevogod> err not that
[04:12] <warpforge> krax: is your stuff working now?
[04:12] <benkong2> warpforge; that was the problem thanks :-)))
[04:12] <Trashcan> -l = lazy unmount :\
[04:12] <krax> yep.. what program do you use to view videos?
[04:12] <wastrel> tyler durden is some b list celebrity right?
[04:12] <kevogod> sudo umount -l /media/cdrom0
[04:12] <TylerDurden> thats whta i meant lol
[04:12] <Trashcan> tyler durden is brad pitt in fight club
[04:12] <Trashcan> the alternate personality
[04:12] <TylerDurden> it doesnt do anything
[04:12] <warpforge> krax: I use Mplayer mostly, sometimes totem
[04:12] <wastrel> ah
[04:12] <wastrel> never saw that
[04:12] <jsubl2> krax, mplayer sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:12] <seethru> anyone here using wireless AND a custom kernel?
[04:13] <TylerDurden> umount2: Invalid argument
[04:13] <TylerDurden> umount: /media/cdrom0: not mounted
[04:13] <TylerDurden> thats what it says now afte rthe -l command but i still cant eject
[04:13] <Trashcan> aha
[04:13] <krax> ok and the codecs for that program to view divx avi and wmv?
[04:13] <Trashcan> it worked
[04:13] <Trashcan> now you should be able to ejec
[04:13] <Trashcan> t
[04:13] <Trashcan> ?
[04:13] <kevogod> lol
[04:13] <jsubl2> krax, hoary or breezy
[04:13] <seethru> TylerDurden: sudo eject /media/cdrom0
[04:13] <warpforge> krax is on breezy
[04:13] <krax> breezy
[04:14] <TylerDurden> there we go. thanks seethru
[04:14] <kevogod> UT2004 always has mounting problems.
[04:14] <TylerDurden> btw seethru i was waiting for u
[04:14] <jsubl2> krax, i get them from mplayer web site
[04:14] <TylerDurden> like i thought, those changes in profiles wont change anyhting
[04:14] <kevogod> It has to do with the installer script being outdated on the CD/DVD
[04:14] <TylerDurden> i enabled antiosptic (sp) filtering and i get the same framerate
[04:14] <Trashcan> is there any technical difference between /dev/cdrom, /media/cdrom, and /media/cdrom0?
[04:14] <TylerDurden> kevogod, u mean my dvd is bad or just their script?
[04:14] <Trashcan> they all point to the same device on my box
[04:14] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Their script
[04:15] <seethru> anyone? custom kernel with wireless? I've got a small question regarding the prism drivers
[04:15] <warpforge> krax: you can get the codecs via apt-get
[04:15] <krax> what's their name?
[04:15] <kevogod> Trashcan, /dev/cdrom and /media/cdrom are symbolic links
[04:15] <Trashcan> ...good call
[04:16] <wastrel> the nick you own ends up owning you
[04:16] <warpforge> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-lame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg w32codecs libdivx4linux lame sox ffmpeg mjpegtools vorbis-tools
[04:16] <kevogod> Trashcan, and that would be the technical difference
[04:16] <warpforge> krax: then run "gst-register-0.8"
[04:16] <Trashcan> :) why thank you sir
[04:16] <TylerDurden> kevogod, grr now i cant mount anything
[04:16] <TylerDurden> it wont read the cd
[04:16] <TylerDurden> sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[04:16] <TylerDurden> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:16] <krax> i need to get mplayer first?
[04:16] <warpforge> you should
[04:16] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Read-only is correct
[04:17] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Because well, CDs are read-only
[04:17] <Trashcan> /dev/hdc?
[04:17] <warpforge> order shouldn't matter, though
[04:17] <TylerDurden> kevogod, but it wont mount my other cd now
[04:17] <jsubl2> !find win32codecs
[04:17] <TylerDurden> TylerDurden, it still says cd 1
[04:17] <TylerDurden> instead of cd 2
[04:17] <warpforge> krax: aptitude takes care of any dependency issues
[04:17] <Trashcan> !tell jsubl2 about w32codecs
[04:17] <TylerDurden> and it wont continue in install
[04:17] <jsubl2> !find w32codecs
[04:17] <Trashcan> what ar eyou trying to do jsub?
[04:18] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[04:18] <Xenguy> ubotu: are you here?
[04:18] <ubotu> Xenguy: I don't know
[04:18] <Trashcan> !tell jsubl2 about restricted formats
[04:18] <krax> ok so apt get that stuff from above and the rest is taken care of?
[04:18] <Trashcan> follow that guide
[04:18] <Joxer> can anyone help me with a gcc problem i have ? It says C compiler cannot create executables
[04:18] <chjchjchj> uboto / Xenguy thanks for the url (which I finally spotted was for me); am trawling thru the docs now
[04:18] <rubem> nobody knows?
[04:18] <warpforge> !tell krax about restricted formats
[04:18] <rubem> seveas, naliorh???
[04:18] <Xenguy> chjchjchj: yw, good luck
[04:18] <rubem> seveas, nalioth???
[04:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'win32codecs' returned no results.
[04:19] <rubem> I tried to run Tulip, php ide, and this error apeared: Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation.Anyone know what it is?
[04:19] <Jenny_v> hey guys
[04:19] <ColonelKernel> damn I wish there was an esier way to handle gentoo's config files
[04:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'w32codecs' returned no results.
[04:19] <krax> it didn't find one of those files you referred to in your apt-get
[04:19] <warpforge> which one?
[04:20] <Lord_Maynoth> man I cannot wait
[04:20] <kevogod> TylerDurden, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[04:20] <Jenny_v> lol ok so i just got ubuntu on this machine after i literally killed my windows and i want to know how to get Java from the bin file to installed
[04:20] <Lord_Maynoth> I wish breezy was out
[04:20] <quendi> cool..got my own theme setup..just wondering, how do i change the splash screen? i have a login theme installed, but would like to have a noia splashscreen
[04:20] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[04:20] <warpforge> krax: the list is for hoary, so i wouldn't be surprised if one were missing
[04:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Jenny_v about java
[04:20] <TylerDurden> kevogod, i got it already
[04:20] <Joxer> can anyone please help me with a gcc problem i have ? It says C compiler cannot create executables
[04:20] <Jenny_v> damn youre fast
[04:20] <warpforge> joxer: do you have build-essential?
[04:20] <rubem> where can I find emacs?
[04:20] <krax> ok cool
[04:21] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know if breezy will automount windows fat and ntfs drives
[04:21] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Sorry if I respond slow, kind of working on multiple stuff
[04:21] <Lord_Maynoth> by default
[04:21] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[04:21] <Joxer> warpforge, build-essential ?
[04:21] <rubem> emacs is not at the repos!!!
[04:21] <TylerDurden> np thnx anyway, learned some new commands
[04:21] <logical_mark> Lord_Matboth - It can but does not by default
[04:21] <warpforge> joxer: it's what libraries you minimally need to build applications
[04:21] <bimberi> rubem: emacs21
[04:21] <warpforge> joxer: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:21] <Joxer> warpforge, i kinda just got it with synaptic
[04:21] <logical_mark> Lord_Mayboth - It can but does not by default - you will have to tell it to do that, and I do not know how to tell you
[04:21] <warpforge> okay
[04:21] <Jenny_v> ok once i have it downloaded dont i have to type something in the terminal window
[04:22] <rubem> bimberi: thanks
[04:22] <warpforge> joxer: working now?
[04:22] <Lord_Maynoth> when do you guys think ubuntu will automount windows partitions maybe by dapper drake
[04:22] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[04:22] <Lord_Maynoth> xandros does it automatically
[04:22] <Joxer> warpforge, 2sec
[04:22] <bimberi> rubem: yw :)
[04:22] <Kyral> Its does..you just have to enable it ;P
[04:23] <rubem> bimberi: how do I install sintax headligth?
[04:23] <Lord_Maynoth> yeah but shouldn't it just work (tm)
[04:23] <Joxer> warpforge, yeah, thanks man :)
[04:23] <Hobbsee> !tell Lord_Maynoth about faq
[04:23] <JBlazex43> OK. im a huge noob to ubuntu i installed on my powerbook and need to reformat and install OSx . Can anyone tell me how to boot a cd.
[04:23] <Crys_Ubu_PC> nalioth, That totally worked. Thanks.
[04:23] <Hobbsee> it seems like breezy does recognise some, but there's the manual guide to do it
[04:23] <bimberi> rubem: sorry i don't know - others might though
[04:24] <Kyral> I donno. I find no use for the thing. Actually doesn't the installer give you the option to do that?
[04:24] <Hobbsee> JBlazex43: make sure your bios is set to boot from cd first
[04:24] <warpforge> Hobbsee: JBlazex is on Mac
[04:24] <warpforge> Mac doesn't have a normal "BIOS"
[04:24] <wastrel> mac eh
[04:24] <nalioth> Crys_Ubu_PC: np
[04:24] <Hobbsee> warpforge: my error, i thought all computers did
[04:24] <JBlazex43> Yes. its weird. i was messing around with ubuntu and now i need to know how to remove.
[04:24] <wastrel> you have the rom dealy
[04:25] <wastrel> bios is for pc compatible
[04:25] <Karasu> hi all
[04:25] <Hobbsee> ah...right...
[04:25] <warpforge> JBlazex, Macs should try to boot from CD by default
[04:25] <bytefoo> is there a firewall on by default?
[04:25] <Karasu> I just installed Nvidia driver
[04:25] <viper``> help
[04:25] <warpforge> bytefoo: no
[04:26] <viper``> i cant install the ubuntu
[04:26] <bytefoo> blast...
[04:26] <Karasu> and the resolution is only 1024/768
[04:26] <filloy> ?
[04:26] <warpforge> !tell viper`` about installation
[04:26] <viper``> i cant find the setup exe
[04:26] <Karasu> supose to be 1050/1200
[04:26] <warpforge> !tell viper`` about instal
[04:26] <JBlazex43> hold on im gonna check the apple support page first. BRB AFK
[04:26] <bytefoo> :/
[04:26] <warpforge> !tell viper`` about install
[04:26] <Karasu> anyone here can help?
[04:27] <warpforge> Karasu, I assume you mean 1050x1400?
[04:27] <thechitowncubs> Who likes ubuntu here?
[04:27] <Karasu> yes sory
[04:27] <Jenny_v> i think ubuntu is ok
[04:27] <propagandhi> KarasU: not a single person
[04:27] <caike> lol
[04:27] <Jenny_v> cant seem to figure it out
[04:27] <Jenny_v> lol
[04:27] <caike> propagandhi, that band rocks
[04:27] <stpere> thechitowncubs, me
[04:27] <propagandhi> caike: indeed they do
[04:28] <warpforge> I'd say I like Ubuntu, considering that it's the only OS I use.
[04:28] <filloy> thechitowncubs i preffere kubuntu :p but the system is nice
[04:28] <Jenny_v> lol warpforge are you good at it
[04:28] <caike> warpforge, for how long have you been using it ?
[04:28] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, That is probably
[04:28] <propagandhi> I meant thechitownclubs before too
[04:28] <Lord_Maynoth> man... I cannot wait to see what ubuntu will be like in 5 year
[04:28] <Lord_Maynoth> 5 years
[04:28] <propagandhi> not Karasu
[04:28] <tristan622ph> what IDE for C++ do you prefer? in linux/Ubuntu
[04:28] <kevogod> thechitowncubs, hmm.. bad question
[04:28] <warpforge> I've been with Ubuntu for a few months.
[04:28] <thechitowncubs> ha
[04:28] <ColonelKernel> Im going to be migrating to gentoo but ill still use ubuntu on another box, and IM probably going to migrate my stepmom's workplace over to ubuntu
[04:28] <Lord_Maynoth> I hope the funding doesn't run out by then
[04:28] <thechitowncubs> any of you people involved with the ubuntu project?
[04:29] <Karasu> is gnome using xorg.conf?
[04:29] <warpforge> Colonel: One does not simply "migrate" to Gentoo. It's a life decision.
[04:29] <Karasu> if so all my mode are Modes		"1400x1050"
[04:29] <kevogod> Lord_Maynoth, In 5 years, you will have a circle of friends.
[04:29] <ajmitch_> thechitowncubs: what do you mean by 'involved'?
[04:29] <Lord_Maynoth> LOL
[04:29] <warpforge> Karasu: yes, xorg.conf
[04:29] <caike> warpforge, I've been with it for a couple of weeks and I've been having few issues...
[04:29] <Lord_Maynoth> i doubt it
[04:29] <thechitowncubs> ajmitch_, like do something for ubuntu?
[04:29] <ajmitch_> thechitowncubs: yes
[04:29] <thechitowncubs> ajmitch_, what have you done
[04:29] <Trashcan> hi ajmitch_ :)
[04:29] <wastrel> hello i have a printing problem
[04:30] <Jenny_v> ok people i have the jave thing downloaded how do i install?
[04:30] <ajmitch_> thechitowncubs: I've helped fix a couple of packages :)
[04:30] <caike> warpforge,  I don't know if maybe it's my hard-drive, but after a few days my Ubuntu is getting soooo slow
[04:30] <thechitowncubs> ajmitch_, cool cool
[04:30] <warpforge> !tell ajmitch_ about java
[04:30] <wastrel> when i print something, it prints out but then cups doesn't clear the job from the queue
[04:30] <Joxer> what's the path to "libtcl.so" in ubuntu? i cant seem to find it.
[04:30] <wastrel> it just sits there clogging up the queue
[04:30] <ajmitch_> warpforge: erm, that wasn't necessary thanks
[04:30] <Jenny_v> lol
[04:30] <thechitowncubs> anyone want to help market/share ubuntu?
[04:30] <gnuts> hello
[04:30] <tristan622ph> in 3days of using ubuntu, i have learned a lot from this OS.
[04:30] <warpforge> !tell Jenny_v about java
[04:30] <Jenny_v> im the one that wanted to know about java
[04:30] <ajmitch_> thechitowncubs: in other words, I'm a MOTU
[04:30] <Jenny_v> and btw
[04:30] <warpforge> ajmitch: sorry, wrong person for "java" help
[04:31] <tristan622ph> i found out that linux is better than windows
[04:31] <Jenny_v> ive already gotten that message
[04:31] <Jenny_v> i want to install it now
[04:31] <Jenny_v> not download it
[04:31] <Jenny_v> im past that step
[04:31] <warpforge> okay
[04:31] <Lord_Maynoth> so will the official openoffice2 replace the beta when it comes out in breezy?
[04:31] <warpforge> one sec
[04:31] <_jason> Jenny_v:  that page tells you everything
[04:31] <Jenny_v> ok
[04:31] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, unlikely
[04:31] <caike> I could use some help adding other resolutions to my gnome.. I have 1024x768 , but I want a higher one... anyone ?
[04:31] <Jenny_v> what page
[04:31] <Jenny_v> the page i clicked on
[04:31] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam
[04:31] <Lord_Maynoth> really
[04:31] <Jenny_v> gave me a directory of files to download
[04:31] <warpforge> Jenny: sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[04:31] <kevogod> Lord_Maynoth, Well, perhaps late in Breezy's reign
[04:32] <bytefoo> i would think they would put the upgrade up
[04:32] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, we are frozen, new versions don't happen after release
[04:32] <Lord_Maynoth> wow...
[04:32] <filloy> colonel: i use gentoo, great distro, but i have ubuntu in my lap cuz i need eficiency and less time to install apps....:p gentoo is all about learning the underware of linux :S
[04:32] <Lord_Maynoth> oh well
[04:32] <Joxer> anyone know how to get tcl up and working porpperly ? :/
[04:32] <Lord_Maynoth> maybe i can use autopackage to install it
[04:32] <warpforge> Lord: Backports will contain updated versions.
[04:32] <bytefoo> that can't be right, i thought they supported each version for 18 months
[04:32] <Rev-Marc> I am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again
[04:32] <kevogod> That is actually not true. Firefox was updated to a higher version number.
[04:32] <kevogod> In Hoary
[04:32] <_jason> Jenny_v:  oh you downloaded the .deb, nvr mnd
[04:32] <Jenny_v> lol
[04:32] <warpforge> bytefoo: only for security updates
[04:32] <gnuts> i've been using the 'add programs' (nice feature) installed frozen bubble but get no sound (other sounds work) and can't get Mplayer (says multiverse isnt active when it is. any thoughts?
[04:33] <filloy> how many girls in here ?
[04:33] <Jenny_v> lol
[04:33] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, if we started upgrading in the stable release, what is the point of making a stable release?
[04:33] <warpforge> !tell Lord_Maynoth about backports
[04:33] <Jenny_v> general@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[04:33] <Jenny_v> Password:
[04:33] <Jenny_v> dpkg: error processing package_file.deb (--install):
[04:33] <Jenny_v>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:33] <Jenny_v> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:33] <Jenny_v>  package_file.deb
[04:33] <Jenny_v> general@ubuntu:~$
[04:33] <Razor-X> have there been changes to TOC recently?
[04:33] <Hobbsee> filloy: me, why?
[04:33] <Jenny_v> oh god
[04:33] <thechitowncubs> Jenny_v, BAD GIRL
[04:33] <bytefoo> it says security updates and fixes
[04:33] <Burgundavia> Jenny_v, please don't spam
[04:33] <nalioth> Jenny_v: pleae friend, dont paste in here
[04:33] <Razor-X> Jenny_v: please do not paste more than 3 lines in this channel
[04:33] <Jenny_v> im not im lost
[04:33] <kevogod> It could be argued that backporting security fixes causes instability.
[04:33] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[04:33] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:33] <fialar> hey all I have a quick question.. after an initial ubuntu install, what is the root pw set to?
[04:33] <warpforge> Jenny: close Synaptec and your update manager
[04:33] <Burgundavia> kevogod, only if upstream is being dumb (The Moz project)
[04:33] <Jenny_v> lol fialar
[04:34] <Hobbsee> !tell fialar about root
[04:34] <Jenny_v> you have to set that password
[04:34] <fialar> Jenny_v: it's not for me, it's for a friend of mine
[04:34] <Jenny_v> when you install the ubuntu on your machine
[04:34] <propagandhi> no its the same as the password you choose
[04:34] <HappyHobo> Hi folks
[04:34] <filloy> hobbsee just wanted to know if there was a girl arround :p         girls using linux are the sexiest ones in the world....:P (and im not hitting on you...or however its said)
[04:34] <kevogod> Burgundavia, Well, Firefox was updated to the upstream version in Hoary, so the version freeze doesn't always apply.
[04:34] <Rev-Marc> I am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again
[04:34] <Burgundavia> kevogod, that is due to the Mozilla project being bad upstreams and not seperating out security patches
[04:35] <Hobbsee> filloy: oh good!  yes, there would be the odd few girls in hiding.  i can tell you it feels really weird being called a gentleman :P
[04:35] <nalioth> Hobbsee: is did correct myself
[04:35] <kevogod> Burgundavia, I was actually quite surprised to see an upstream build.
[04:35] <warpforge> Burgundavia: the 1.0.x updates are almost completely security and stability
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> well I hope they update to the new openoffice2 official release
[04:35] <nalioth> Hobbsee: i did i did
[04:35] <Burgundavia> kevogod, notice that of all the security patches, they are the only that is forced to be upgraded to a new version
[04:35] <propagandhi> virual women, the best kind hey
[04:35] <Burgundavia> warpforge, yes, but they break all kinds of things
[04:35] <propagandhi> *virtual
[04:35] <fialar> ahh I see.. root logins disabled, but sudo works
[04:35] <fialar> ok thanks :)
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> thats why we need autopackage
[04:35] <filloy> Hobbsee yep, sometimes they ask me if im a girl, cuz mi nick :P you seem nice :)
[04:35] <Hobbsee> nalioth: i know you did, i was meaning it as an example - you're not the only one to call me a gentleman
[04:35] <Lord_Maynoth> :P
[04:36] <Burgundavia> warpforge, we don't want a new version, we want a patch that fixes the specific security hole
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> not being able to connect using the old version of gaim was so annoying
[04:36] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, no, actually
[04:36] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, not being able to connect is a bug, so file one
[04:36] <gnuts> anyone have time for a question?
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> burg
[04:36] <Jenny_v> ok ppl
[04:36] <kevogod> gnuts, We all have time.
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> it was not a bug
[04:36] <Jenny_v> i typed this
[04:36] <Jenny_v> sudo dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[04:36] <Lord_Maynoth> it was because the version was outdated
[04:36] <gnuts> Ok, here goes
[04:36] <gnuts> i've been using the 'add programs' (nice feature) installed frozen bubble but get no sound (other sounds work) and can't get Mplayer (says multiverse isnt active when it is. any thoughts?
[04:36] <Jenny_v> and got the same error message
[04:36] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, if the program doesn't work, it is a bug
[04:37] <Lord_Maynoth> trilian and game become out dated and need patching as yahoo and msn aim etc change their code
[04:37] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, if someone had filed it, we would have been able to pull the specific pathc for the specific fix and then apply that
[04:37] <Lord_Maynoth> wasn't a bug
[04:37] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[04:37] <kevogod> Lord_Maynoth, Nice way to butcher the names of the two programs.
[04:37] <JBlazex43> ok i got it to "try" to boot but it freezes.
[04:37] <nalioth> Jenny_v: what error was that?
[04:37] <Rev-Marc> I am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again
[04:37] <filloy> ahhh hope Breezy gets my bug fixed :S i hated the preview because of that :p
[04:37] <nalioth> Jenny_v: just one line, please
[04:37] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, how is "the program doesn't do what it is supposed to do" not a bug?
[04:37] <Jenny_v> error processing sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb (--install):
[04:37] <Jenny_v>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:38] <nferno> i'm new to linux and don't know how to do anything. how do i install programs? firefox for example
[04:38] <warpforge> Jenny, you don't have any other package managers running?
[04:38] <nalioth> Jenny_v: did you get it from a torrent or a direct download?
[04:38] <Lord_Maynoth> well is a virus scan going out of date a bug, what about a program whos code is too old to connect to servers running new code
[04:38] <Jenny_v> nope
[04:38] <HrdwrBob> nferno: firefox is already installed
[04:38] <Lord_Maynoth> same difference
[04:38] <Jenny_v> just terminal
[04:38] <nalioth> Jenny_v: nope what?
[04:38] <propagandhi> no such file or directory - pretty obvious
[04:38] <Lord_Maynoth> the software functioned perfectly
[04:38] <ianu> When Breezy comes out, will Ubuntu start shipping the CD's?
[04:38] <filloy> nferno open Synaptic Package Mannager and search firefox :) then choose apply
[04:38] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, we have hoary-upgrades for that specific reason
[04:38] <Burgundavia> ianu, yes
[04:39] <jsubl2> Jenny_v, try using the full path to the deb
[04:39] <nferno> HrdwrBog: firefox was just an example. im trying to install kismet
[04:39] <stpere> gnuts, quick way to get it working :
[04:39] <rvrocha> good nite
[04:39] <Burgundavia> Lord_Maynoth, the program claims it can connect to MSN. If MSN breaks things and the version in Hoary doesn't work, file a bug, because it doesn't do what is promised it could do
[04:39] <stpere> press ALT+F2, type killall esd
[04:39] <filloy> nferno: you will have to learn all about repositories and that sort of stuff, i suggest you reading the begginers book :P
[04:39] <Jenny_v> what do you mean by full path
[04:39] <stpere> gnuts, then start frozenbubble
[04:39] <Rev-Marc> is there a firefox help channel?
[04:39] <gnuts> nferno, is it in your synaptic list?
[04:40] <rvrocha> How can I politely ask a question? ;)
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> well in the mean time... I will use autopackage to provide me with the latest versions
[04:40] <filloy> rvrocha uhmm, ask ?
[04:40] <nferno> gnuts: no
[04:40] <Lord_Maynoth> which is really cool imho
[04:40] <nalioth> Jenny_v: did you direct download or use a torrent to get the java deb?
[04:40] <jsubl2> Jenny_v, sudo dpkg -i /home/jenny/filename.deb
[04:40] <nalioth> rvrocha: ask it
[04:40] <rvrocha> ok
[04:40] <Jenny_v> i guess it was direct
[04:40] <Jenny_v> i clicked on a link on a webpage and downloaded
[04:40] <rvrocha> Do u guys install hardware support for nVidia cards?
[04:40] <nalioth> Jenny_v: did you get ALL of the file?
[04:40] <Jenny_v> yes
[04:40] <Rev-Marc> I am haveing trouble with FireFox, It works great the first time I open it but if I close it I have to reboot to get it to open again
[04:40] <gnuts> nferno, go to the wiki on adding repositories - it's good and helpful
[04:41] <rvrocha> Do you use nVidia installer for doing so?
[04:41] <propagandhi> Rev-Marc: after you close it are there any firefox processes still running
[04:41] <Burgundavia> rvrocha, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[04:41] <benkong2> will sudo apt-get install kbuntu-desktop give me kbuntu also?
[04:41] <rvrocha> thx
[04:41] <Rev-Marc> How do I check?
[04:41] <propagandhi> in the terminal - ps -aux
[04:41] <warpforge> benkong: If you spell Kubuntu correctly, yes
[04:41] <propagandhi> or ps -aux | grep firefox
[04:42] <filloy> Rev-Marc ha ! its like the 5th time i read your question.  I dont really know the answer, but i would try to reinstall and see if the problem persist. if it does, come back and ask again, im shure someboy will help
[04:42] <benkong2> warpforge; k thanks
[04:42] <viper``> i cant install the ubuntu.. what do i do?
[04:42] <rvrocha> beautiful
[04:42] <DShepherd> viper``: What do you mean?
[04:42] <warpforge> viper: you're being entirely too vague, and i already sent you a link to the Installation guide
[04:42] <Xenguy> viper``: be more specific
[04:42] <gnuts> stpere, thanks that worked. do i need to do it each time i turn on the pc?
[04:42] <rvrocha> Is 5.10 already stable?
[04:42] <filloy> ahhh, im off, goodbye ya fellas ! :P
[04:43] <rvrocha> bye
[04:43] <filloy> rvrocha, not untill tomorrow...
[04:43] <nferno> thanks everyone for the help
[04:43] <DShepherd> rvrocha: stable enough
[04:43] <rvrocha> cool
[04:43] <kevogod> It isn't stable until 2 days I thought...
[04:43] <frank23> rvrocha: its stable, although probably not as stable as 5.04
[04:43] <stpere> gnuts, yeah, I think so... :-(
[04:43] <Rev-Marc> I don't see anything related to firefox running
[04:43] <gnuts> stpere, ok, still cool that it works!
[04:44] <figment> Hi.
[04:44] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: ps aux |grep firefox
[04:44] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: or pkill firefox (if need be)
[04:44] <Joxer> Can anyone please help me? Im trying to configure eggdrop, But it cant find the path to tcl, And i think tcl is installed default in ubuntu, But it says it cant find tcl, And asks me where it is, Anybody know where it is ?
[04:44] <rvrocha> What about HP Multifuncional Printers? Is it possible to install them? Any Wiki path? :)
[04:45] <bytefoo> there is no setup.exe :/
[04:45] <warpforge> joxer: breezy comes with tcl 8.4
[04:45] <rvrocha> lol
[04:45] <Joxer> warpforge, yeah, But it asks me to give a path to libtcl.so
[04:45] <nalioth> Joxer: use synaptic
[04:46] <warpforge> Joxer: TCL is under "/usr/lib/tcl8.4"
[04:46] <benkong2> nighty nighty all
[04:46] <rvrocha> nite!
[04:46] <figment> Uhm, I'm having a problem.  I ran the update manager, two of the updates are for Firefox, but it gave an error when it tried to install them, and now Firefox won't start at all.
[04:46] <bimberi> rvrocha: well yes there is - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters
[04:47] <gigaclon> you using back ports figment?
[04:47] <figment> I don't know.
[04:47] <warpforge> Aha! Joxer: you need tcl8.4-dev
[04:47] <regeya_> careful...
[04:47] <rvrocha> thx
[04:47] <regeya_> if you don't know, gigaclon, you're not.
[04:47] <Joxer> warpforge, aaaah, thanks ill try :)
[04:47] <warpforge> Joxer: See this: http://s23.org/wiki/Libtcl.so
[04:47] <regeya_> btw, I'm using backports, and firefox is a-ok.
[04:48] <Rev-Marc> Xenguy something about -remote ping and -a firefox
[04:48] <rvrocha> thx again, guys. U rule!
[04:48] <figment> My sister set everything up, and told me how to run updates.  But she's in Sweden right now.
[04:48] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: tried the 'pkill' suggestion?
[04:48] <Rev-Marc> Xenguy trying now
[04:49] <enajeirak> hello, anyone know how to take down firewall in ubuntu
[04:49] <Xeon3D> figment: can I have her email addy? it's hard to find linux chicks around here where I live .. (joking) :D
[04:49] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: then try the ps again
[04:49] <Xenguy> enajeirak: what firewall?
[04:49] <enajeirak> im having a mental breakdown
[04:49] <JBlazex43> ok i fixed it apple has a thing called TARGET DISK MODE
[04:49] <JBlazex43> thanks anyhoo
[04:49] <warpforge> enajeirak: no firewall on ubuntu unless you installed one
[04:49] <JBlazex43> :)
[04:49] <figment> Lol, she's in Sweden with her boyfriend.  ;)
[04:49] <JBlazex43> works fine.
[04:49] <Xenguy> enajeirak: pull out your hair instead ;-)
[04:50] <enajeirak> well i think it came with an update, and my file sharing says that i have one enbabled?
[04:50] <enajeirak> ahhaha
[04:50] <viper``> warpforge: i use everything.. but it didnt boot at all
[04:50] <warpforge> enajeirak: you need to forward ports
[04:50] <warpforge> from your router
[04:50] <enajeirak> oh my gosh,
[04:50] <andrewfk> does anybody know the address for the marillat repository
[04:50] <enajeirak> i totally forgot i had my router hooked back up
[04:50] <enajeirak> im retarted
[04:50] <viper``> when i look at the ubuntu file ...the size is 0 kb
[04:50] <Rev-Marc> Xengs now it opens again, I closed it and it opened back up thank you
[04:51] <warpforge> viper: what ubuntu file?
[04:51] <enajeirak> thank you, you see i worked 20 hours today and thats what happens
[04:51] <viper``> i think the exe file is corrupted
[04:51] <warpforge> viper: linux doesn't use EXEs
[04:51] <Trashcan> lol
[04:51] <viper``> how can i boot it?
[04:51] <viper``> im new in linux
[04:51] <Trashcan> well techincally, EXE stands for executable and linux *does* use executables
[04:51] <Trashcan> but i'll agree with you :)
[04:51] <Trashcan> elf vs coff
[04:52] <viper``> :)
[04:52] <warpforge> viper, have you set your computer to boot from CD?
[04:52] <viper``> yup
[04:52] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: yw
[04:52] <warpforge> viper, does booting to a different CD work?
[04:52] <enajeirak> buh buy, must bypass stupid router, thanks
[04:52] <viper``> but the thing is it doesnt start automatically...i mean the installation
[04:52] <warpforge> have you pressed ENTER when it comes up with the first prompt?
[04:53] <viper``> should i type anythng??
[04:53] <viper``> no prompt
[04:53] <Trashcan> nol
[04:53] <Trashcan> oh?
[04:53] <warpforge> viper, not unless you want to server version
[04:53] <viper``> ubuntu-5.10-rc-install-i386
[04:53] <warpforge> just press ENTER with the empty line
[04:53] <viper``> i jst downloaded it yesterday
[04:53] <Trashcan> how did you burn it
[04:53] <viper``> using nero
[04:53] <Trashcan> did you drag it onto the cd
[04:53] <viper``> data only
[04:54] <Trashcan> nope
[04:54] <Xeon3D> viper`` did you go to recorder -> burn image option?
[04:54] <Trashcan> when you put it in
[04:54] <warpforge> viper, if you're so new to linux, i suggest you wait until the full release in a day or two
[04:54] <viper``> yup
[04:54] <Trashcan> you choose 'recorder->burn image'
[04:54] <viper``> yes
[04:54] <Trashcan> hmm
[04:54] <Trashcan> weird
[04:54] <viper``> when i extracted the .iso
[04:54] <warpforge> that's the issue
[04:54] <viper``> the file of ubuntu on the main directory is 0kb
[04:54] <Xeon3D> you can't extract the .iso
[04:54] <warpforge> you can't extract the ISO
[04:54] <warpforge> echo?
[04:54] <warpforge> :-)
[04:55] <Trashcan> lol
[04:55] <Xeon3D> you open nero, go to recorder -> burn image
[04:55] <Xeon3D> then you select the .iso file.
[04:55] <warpforge> extracting the ISO destroys the boot image
[04:55] <Xeon3D> and click burn
[04:55] <viper``> :(
[04:55] <viper``> so i guess i have to donwload it again
[04:55] <warpforge> sorry, but you have to reburn the CD
[04:55] <Xeon3D> stooopid weather.. rained like there's no tomorrow for 10sec, now it stopped.
[04:55] <Enlite> what is the official date of the breezy release
[04:56] <warpforge> viper, why don't you wait until the final release?
[04:56] <nalioth> Enlite: see /topic
[04:56] <viper``> the iso file becomes 0kb also
[04:56] <Enlite> today or tomorrow
[04:56] <Enlite> oh
[04:56] <Rev-Marc> What kind of download speeds should I expect with Bittorrent on a cable connection?
[04:56] <viper``> when will it release?
[04:56] <Enlite> what time is breezy rel
[04:56] <Enlite> :)
[04:56] <warpforge> viper, the next few days
[04:56] <nalioth> 13 oct
[04:56] <Trashcan> rev: typically around 40-60
[04:56] <Trashcan> ie. slowwwwwwwwwwwwww
[04:56] <nalioth> if your anxious, get it now
[04:56] <melfyk> thursday
[04:56] <kevogod> Trashcan, Um, no
[04:56] <kevogod> Trashcan, I don't know what torrents you have been smoking
[04:56] <Enlite> eh dont want to install the preview
[04:56] <Trashcan> lol
[04:57] <Trashcan> debian
[04:57] <Trashcan> :(
[04:57] <Enlite> i want the real deal
[04:57] <warpforge> The speed of BT is dependant on too many factors to give a global prediction
[04:57] <Rev-Marc> OK it just seemed slow compared to FTP
[04:57] <warpforge> enlite: the latest CD image is RC
[04:57] <kevogod> Well, depending on what FTP you get
[04:57] <kevogod> heh
[04:58] <Blizz-> heya what type of drivers and such should i download for ubuntu? debian based things?
[04:58] <kevogod> Aldi is selling iPod Shuffles
[04:58] <kevogod> How famous
[04:58] <Lordphyn> does anyone use "corkscrew?"
[04:59] <warpforge> Blizz: you can't just "download drivers"
[04:59] <viper``> thaniks guys
[04:59] <viper``> ill be back
[04:59] <viper``> :)
[04:59] <kevogod> Lordphyn, Well, I use one the first time I open a wine bottle
[04:59] <eXcentra> I ordered some Ubuntu CD's like two weeks ago. Will they send me Breezy?
[04:59] <Burgundavia> eXcentra, yes
[04:59] <Blizz-> please explain then
[04:59] <warpforge> Blizz: you need to find support for your devices in the repositories
[04:59] <eXcentra> neat
[04:59] <eXcentra> thanks
[04:59] <bytefoo> i ordered the biggest package :/
[05:00] <bytefoo> of cds :O
[05:00] <warpforge> Blizz: at worst, you'll need to find the .deb's
[05:00] <Blizz-> ok thanks
[05:00] <warpforge> Blizz: what are you trying to set up?
[05:00] <Lordphyn> hehe yep, kevogod, but i meant the program :) I think httptunnel has similar functionality. I wanted to set up an https proxy on my home machine
[05:00] <mustard5> hmmmm..mondo and mindi not working for me out of the breezy repos
[05:00] <kevogod> Lordphyn, I know. :-)
[05:00] <erick> guys any fax services available for ubuntu
[05:01] <bytefoo> apt-cache search fax
[05:01] <bytefoo> :|
[05:01] <bytefoo> hylafax i think is popular
[05:01] <gurubie> Which kernel do I use with breezy? Of the "9" series, only 386 does X. I have a K7 but have not seen a K& kernel work. What to do?
[05:01] <warpforge> erick: "sudo apt-get update" first
[05:01] <figment> What should I do to try and fix my Firefox?
[05:01] <mustard5> erick, searching synaptic brings up quite a few
[05:02] <greg__> anyone here having problems with seveas repos? tried ubuntu-devel meta package. depends on yacc, not available from ubuntu repos
[05:03] <nalioth> greg__: use bison and symlink yacc to it
[05:03] <Rev-Marc> is there anyway to get around having to do the sudo time everytime I use apt-get?
[05:03] <gurubie> How do I reinstall GRUB over the MBR to get rid od MEPIS Grub screen.
[05:03] <frank23> what is the difference between blackdown java and sun's java?
[05:03] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: you can disregard security if you wish
[05:03] <nalioth> frank23: blackdown is older
[05:03] <frank23> gurubie: sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:03] <erick> what should be i search fax?
[05:04] <mustard5> do you know how to use synaptic erick ?
[05:04] <mustard5> type 'fax' in the search and search by name and description
[05:04] <warpforge> how do you use gdb to get a trace?
[05:04] <frank23> gurubie: you might lose some grub entries though
[05:04] <erick> I guess yes
[05:04] <Rev-Marc> if you do "sudo su " do you have to use sudo for the rest of that session?
[05:04] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: better to sudo -i
[05:05] <mustard5> open synaptic and search via synaptic erick
[05:05] <greg__> nalioth, will symlinking to bison resolve dependencies?
[05:05] <Xenguy> Rev-Marc: try -> sudo -s
[05:05] <gurubie> frank23, Done thanks
[05:05] <nalioth> greg__: it is strange that an ubuntu pkg depends on something not there
[05:05] <nalioth> greg__: what pkg were you installing again?
[05:05] <Rev-Marc> which is ti -i or -s?
[05:05] <warpforge> when you "sudo" into a shell, you just exit that shell to leave the su environment
[05:05] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: either one
[05:05] <Ky0tIk> what kind of changes are we expecting between now and the 13th??
[05:05] <greg__> nalioth, it was a seveas package. ubuntu-devel from another repository
[05:06] <Xenguy> nalioth: there is no difference?
[05:06] <erick> yeah i know how to used that but what should i use for my search key fax
[05:06] <nalioth> greg__: ah. that explains it. what was the name of the pkg?
[05:06] <Rev-Marc> thanks
[05:06] <nalioth> Xenguy: there is a difference, but i'm not aware of waht it is. i use sudo -i
[05:06] <gurubie> frank23, menu.lst is instact
[05:06] <frank23> nalioth: blackdown is still based on sun's java right? is it that they let 1.4 be distributed by ubuntu but not 1.5?
[05:06] <Xenguy> nalioth: nod
[05:06] <greg__> nalioth, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ was the site, ubuntu-devel is the package. depends on yacc
[05:06] <dougsko> hey guys
[05:06] <nalioth> frank23: yes but it's older
[05:07] <gurubie> What kernel are you guys using with brezzy updated?
[05:07] <mustard5> erick, search key is fax
[05:07] <nalioth> greg__: i'm not sure what ubuntu-devel is? why not install 'build-essential' ?
[05:07] <frank23> gurubie: now it will use the menu.lst from the ubuntu partition instead of the menu.lst from Mepis
[05:07] <erick> k mustard thanks
[05:07] <gurubie> frank23, Yes sir, that's exactly what I wanted.
[05:07] <Ky0tIk> gurubie: 2.6.12-9
[05:07] <Rev-Marc> how do I find my kernel version?
[05:08] <dooglus> UNAME -R
[05:08] <Ky0tIk> uname -r
[05:08] <nalioth> Rev-Marc: uname -r
[05:08] <gurubie> Ky0tIk, WHich processor?
[05:08] <greg__> nalioth, will do
[05:08] <dooglus> (only without the capslock)
[05:08] <Ky0tIk> gurubie 686
[05:08] <nalioth> greg__: and symlink 'yacc' to bison
[05:08] <erick> guys first time to install the server option of breezy guide me
[05:08] <kevogod> If I plug in an iPod Shuffle, will Ubuntu automount it?
[05:08] <mustard5> erick, ok ..we can only try
[05:08] <Rev-Marc> Thank you
[05:09] <Ky0tIk> erick: the server option is mostly just a base install isnt it?
[05:09] <dougsko> kevogod: plug it in and let us know :)
[05:09] <NoUse> kevogod it should, it automounts my 15gb ipod
[05:09] <nalioth> Ky0tIk: yes it is
[05:09] <gurubie> For some reason the 2.6.12-9-686 Kernel wouldn't start X but I'm on -386 now. I'd be hapy with 686 but still don't quite understand why K7 is offered if it doesn't work.
[05:09] <Enlite> are there breezy backports yet?
[05:09] <erick> kotic I dont think bcause its my first time install this
[05:10] <nalioth> Enlite: not yet. let breezy final, and dapper dev begin
[05:10] <kevogod> I don't have an iPod Shuffle, I was going to pick one up from Aldi for $60
[05:10] <warpforge> gurubie: it will show any kernel you install
[05:10] <Rev-Marc> maybe I should ask where I can find a list of commands and what they are used for on the net?
[05:10] <nalioth> kevogod: go ahead, they work in ubuntu
[05:10] <khermans> Breezy official on 10/13 ??
[05:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Rev-Marc about cli
[05:10] <mustard5> erick, default will be easier
[05:10] <kevogod> $60 seemed like a good deal considering it is $100 on Apple's site and most other places
[05:10] <kevogod> *seems
[05:10] <dooglus> Rev-Marc: you can get a list of commands by pressing 'tab' in a terminal window, and you can find out what they do by typing "man <command>"
[05:10] <mustard5> erick, what are you using it for?
[05:11] <aalex> Question: I have Windows XP on a HD. I want to install a new HD which will be partitionned GRUB/Linux/FAT32/FAT32. Should I put this new disk first, as a master, and then the other one second, as slave ?
[05:11] <gurubie> 2.6.12-8-686 did work so which would you use, that or 2.6.12-9-386 ?
[05:11] <erick> i use the manually deletion
[05:11] <Enlite> is there a php5 pkg that will install easily on breezy
[05:11] <dougsko> kevogod: aldi has some sweet deals, thats where i got my puter from
[05:11] <kevogod> dougsko, I keep thinking they robbed an Apple semi or something
[05:11] <warpforge> how do i install symbols for debugging?
[05:11] <aalex> Enlite : good question : do you know of a php4 one ?
[05:11] <erick> mustard i want to use it as my backup server for my DNS, email, proxy , vpn and fileserver
[05:11] <dougsko> haha
[05:11] <Rev-Marc> nalioth Thank you that is pretty kewl
[05:11] <mustard5> erick, ah k :)
[05:11] <Enlite> apt-get install php4 works nicely
[05:11] <Trashcan> lol kevogod
[05:11] <dooglus> warpforge: debugging what?
[05:12] <Rev-Marc> dooglus thank you I will try that
[05:12] <warpforge> libcamel
[05:12] <dooglus> warpforge: is there a "libcamel-dbg" package?
[05:12] <erick> is this possible? my primay server is linux version 9 but im not satisfied for the updates
[05:12] <dooglus> warpforge: if not, you need to get the source & built it yourself
[05:12] <kevogod> dougsko, Aldi is a weird store.
[05:12] <warpforge> nope
[05:12] <mustard5> erick, it sounds possible
[05:13] <dooglus> warpforge: "apt-get source libcamel"
[05:13] <mustard5> I am no expert though
[05:13] <gurubie> So it's -8-686 vs. -9-386 on my K7. Which would you choose?
[05:13] <dooglus> warpforge: it puts the source in the current directory, and you don't need to be root
[05:13] <dougsko> kevogod: yeah it is, theres not one here in pittsburgh, but i wish there was
[05:13] <mustard5> erick, so you've used linux before?
[05:13] <TiMiDo> ubuntu should give out cds with guide (:
[05:13] <nalioth> TiMiDo: you have written one?
[05:14] <erick> yes purely redhat from version 9 to fedora 4
[05:14] <mustard5> TiMiDo, I have a guide in my help menu on breezy :)
[05:14] <erick> guys what is the min harddrive to used the LVM
[05:14] <TiMiDo> nalioth:  not really getting there
[05:14] <TiMiDo> mustard5:  give me the link =)
[05:14] <Trashcan> what's this speak of aldi i keep hearing?
[05:14] <mustard5> erick, ah ok...so your new to debian distributions?
[05:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell TiMiDo about faq
[05:15] <TiMiDo> yeah i'm reading
[05:15] <mustard5> TiMiDo, its built in
[05:15] <mustard5> :)
[05:15] <TiMiDo> oh nice
[05:15] <nalioth> mustard5: it's also available online
[05:15] <erick> yes, before i try debian woody flavor and unfortunately im not succedful to fully run the system
[05:15] <TiMiDo> i'm gonna save the link -)
[05:15] <dougsko> Trashcan: its just a cool grocery stroe thats real cheap and they sometimes have awesome deals on electronics
[05:15] <TiMiDo> nalioth:  can u download it as a pdf?
[05:15] <mustard5> nalioth, ah ok..I didnt know
[05:15] <TylerDurden> im trying to install ut2k4 but it asks for the second cd and it wont let me eject the first one
[05:15] <TylerDurden> saying its busy
[05:15] <nalioth> TiMiDo: i believe ubotu just sent you the link
[05:16] <Rev-Marc> One last thing tonight, how do I turn off my touchpad in Ubuntu (no settings in bios to do it )
[05:16] <TiMiDo> yeah
[05:16] <erick> mustard how many harddrive should i use to be able to use the LVM
[05:16] <TiMiDo> i'm there i'm asking if you can download it as pdf
[05:16] <kevogod> TylerDurden, I thought you said you resolved this problem.
[05:16] <mustard5> erick, I know nothing about LVM's
[05:16] <TylerDurden> apperantly not kevogod
[05:16] <nalioth> TiMiDo: only if you see a link
[05:16] <TylerDurden> it was working fine yestarday
[05:16] <erick> K try to fiure out
[05:16] <Enlite> what is the advantage of using LVM or not using it
[05:17] <kevogod> TylerDurden, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[05:17] <kevogod> Well, first sudo umount -f /media/cdrom
[05:17] <mustard5> Enlite, I would hope it would make mounting groups of partitions easier...but I dont know
[05:17] <TylerDurden> mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:17] <TylerDurden> mount: /dev/cdrom already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[05:17] <TylerDurden> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[05:17] <TylerDurden> says its busy with the -f
[05:17] <kevogod> Well, then do sudo umount -f /media/cdrom
[05:17] <nalioth> TylerDurden: what have you seen about pasting in here?
[05:17] <dooglus> Enlite: does it let you dynamically resize your partitions?
[05:17] <TylerDurden> says its busy again kevogod
[05:17] <ksmurf> anyone have audacity working in breezy?  If so what did you do?
[05:18] <TylerDurden> grr come on nalioth give me a break please
[05:18] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Turn on Remote Desktop
[05:18] <TylerDurden> not everyone likes opening the browser to copy, paste a small 3 line code
[05:18] <crimsun> ksmurf: you have to disable the sound server startup first.
[05:18] <mustard5> TylerDurden, use #flood
[05:18] <dooglus> TylerDurden: freenode policy is no pastes bigger than 10 lines
[05:18] <erick> does ubuntu support iptables
[05:18] <kevogod> That was only 3 lines of paste
[05:18] <rob_p> erick:  yes
[05:18] <crimsun> *.ubuntu.com, launchpad.net will be down for about 10 minutes.
[05:18] <figment> I tried to install Firefox updates, the update manager gave an error, and now Firefox won't start at all.  What should I try to fix it?  Please help.
[05:18] <ksmurf> crimsun how so?
[05:18] <kevogod> I wouldn't quite call that excessive
[05:19] <TylerDurden> kevogod, u wnana control my comp?
[05:19] <linuxbomb> TylerDurden, just paste 9 lines at a time
[05:19] <crimsun> ksmurf: System> Preferences> Sound
[05:19] <nalioth> #ubuntu channel policy is to use a pastebin or #flood
[05:19] <erick> how about firewall builder can I used it
[05:19] <Hobbsee> figment: uninstall firefox mozilla-firefox then install mozilla-firefox
[05:19] <kevogod> TylerDurden, I love controlling people's computers.
[05:19] <nalioth> erick: if you wish
[05:19] <Trashcan> are there any commands in the CLI that are built into the kernel, and not actual applications?
[05:19] <TylerDurden> not but im being serious, u wanan try?
[05:19] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Sure
[05:19] <TylerDurden> ok how do i give u the code? i have a router and it doesnt give the real code
[05:19] <figment> Using the Synaptic Package Manager?
[05:20] <dougsko> erick: firestarter is a nice and easy firewall
[05:20] <mustard5> TylerDurden, I'd give it a go if I was set up to do it :)
[05:20] <linuxbomb> Trashcan what like | or >
[05:20] <kevogod> TylerDurden, Go to http://www.whatismyip.com/
[05:20] <Rev-Marc> One last thing tonight, how do I turn off my touchpad in Ubuntu (no settings in bios to do it )
[05:20] <kevogod> You might want to private message me
[05:20] <nalioth> kevogod: you can get his IP right here
[05:20] <ksmurf> crimsun Thanks again
[05:20] <erick> dougsko first time to hear that can guide me I try firestarter
[05:20] <figment> Or is there some other way to uninstall a program?
[05:20] <warpforge> Rev-Marc: you can disable your touchpad in xorg.conf
[05:20] <TiMiDo> figment: apt-get remove program
[05:20] <kevogod> nalioth, Ah, I'm using to hostmasks
[05:21] <nalioth> erick: a firewall is unnecessary in default ubuntu
[05:21] <nalioth> kevogod: his IP is in the clear
[05:21] <mustard5> nalioth, erick is doing server install
[05:21] <erick> but nalioth i want to secure my network i want to guard my DMZ
[05:21] <kevogod> Yea I see
[05:21] <Hobbsee> is bugzilla.ubuntu.com down?
[05:21] <Rev-Marc> how do I do that?
[05:21] <nalioth> erick: your DMZ is upstream of your box
[05:21] <figment> So; apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox
[05:22] <warpforge> is us.archive.ubuntu.com down for anyone else?
[05:22] <erick> yeah nalioth thanks mustard
[05:22] <dougsko> erick: it cant hurt and there almost no setup involved
[05:22] <jsgotangco> warpforge, ubuntu.com is down for an emegency maintenance
[05:22] <warpforge> ah
[05:22] <jsgotangco> warpforge, give it a few minutes
[05:22] <nalioth> dougsko: didnt we have the fud talk yesterday?
[05:22] <Xenguy> erick: shorewall is worth a look if you want a firewall
[05:22] <erick> yeah I know but I want to to put additional firewal on my network facing the outside world
[05:22] <linuxbomb> ubuntu.com has a virus
[05:23] <dougsko> lol ok, ok, fine i wont say anymore about it
[05:23] <Trashcan> linuxbomb: no i mean like, 'pwd' style commands, not piping
[05:23] <Hobbsee> warpforge: ah, so they're all going down currently are they?
[05:23] <Xenguy> erick: firewalls are fine, and useful, it you decide you want one
[05:23] <erick> but Im not expert in doing ip forwarding so I need a simple and easy to handle firewal
[05:23] <nalioth> erick: if you configure your network services properly, a firewall isnt necessary on linux
[05:23] <Xenguy> erick: I only know shorewall
[05:24] <nalioth> erick: is this box gonna be your network router?
[05:24] <figment> TiMiDo, what I need to type is; apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox?
[05:24] <linuxbomb> Trashcan, what the hell are you saying that "ls" or "cd" can exist in the kernel and not be installed or what
[05:24] <Trashcan> im asking if there are any that are
[05:24] <Xenguy> nalioth: I agree it is not always necessary, but it does increase the amount of control one has over packates that come and go
[05:24] <Trashcan> out of curiosity
[05:24] <TiMiDo> figment: yeah
[05:24] <nalioth> Trashcan: most of your 'builtin' commands are actually in the shell
[05:25] <nalioth> Xenguy: depends on if erick is installing for router use or use behind a dedicated router
[05:25] <erick> nalioth Im not using router my source of internet is just a dsl connection,
[05:25] <luckyaba> amarok just skips through without playing my mp3's... whats causing this?
[05:26] <erick> and limited ip address
[05:26] <nalioth> erick: be careful with your iptables
[05:26] <Crane> hiya all
[05:26] <Xenguy> erick: if your box is next to the Net, it is functionally a 'router', or better, a 'gateway'
[05:26] <figment> It says:  Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:26] <nalioth> figment: use sudo
[05:26] <erick> nalioth thanks
[05:26] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, so how's things in Alabama?
[05:26] <Crane> Great
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> so i guessed right?
[05:27] <arkanes> anyone having any trouble with the apt repositories?
[05:27] <Crane> the weather is finally cooled down
[05:27] <Crane> yep
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> good hope it is on the way into GA
[05:27] <nalioth> arkanes: yes, they appear to be flunctuating atm
[05:27] <erick> xenguy yes this will be next to NET and want to use proxy for internet sharing
[05:27] <nomasteryoda|w> over in Macon
[05:27] <Crane> I'll try to send it your way :)
[05:27] <figment> Okay.  It is uninstalling.
[05:27] <nalioth> erick: carry on. be carefule with your iptables
[05:27] <Madpilot> arkanes: Ubuntu.com seems to be having some problems, I can't even ping it
[05:28] <figment> Then I should be able to run the packages?
[05:28] <Xenguy> erick: So it is a gateway -- I would never run a gateway without a firewall (but nalioth may have other ideas, so ...)
[05:28] <dougsko> nalioth: take a look at this though if you want. debian does recomend one if you have a static http://www.aboutdebian.com/firewall.htm
[05:28] <arkanes> Madpilot: yes, same here. Wasn't sure if it was just me
[05:28] <dougsko> im not crazy
[05:28] <dougsko> ok, now im done
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, cool
[05:28] <nomasteryoda|w> so you using ubuntu ?
[05:28] <erick> since I have limited resources in term of machine, I will used it as my fileserver, vpn,proxy and backup for my DNS server
[05:28] <Crane> Me? all the time
[05:28] <LinuxBoyX6X> hello there could you help me out with firestarter
[05:28] <erick> can this be possible?
[05:28] <Xenguy> erick: anyway, if you go ahead, I recommend 'shorewall' -- that's about all I have to say :-)
[05:28] <LinuxBoyX6X> hello there could you help me out with firestarter
[05:29] <erick> k thanks xengut
[05:29] <dougsko> LinuxBoyX6X: yeah man
[05:29] <tritium> LinuxBoyX6X, don't repeat please
[05:29] <erick> hope you will guide me with this
[05:29] <nalioth> dougsko: yes static. most of us are on dynamic dsl/cable/dialup connections
[05:29] <figment> Now I should apt-get mozilla-firefox?
[05:29] <dougsko> ok, but how would i know that?
[05:29] <LinuxBoyX6X> sorry about that, ok heres the prob, ive started firestarter i have a 512 kbps connection
[05:29] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, yea... cool
[05:29] <nalioth> LinuxBoyX6X: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[05:30] <erick> im alway online
[05:30] <Crane> are there any good linux podcast out there worth listening to?
[05:30] <LinuxBoyX6X> now im having only 200 kbps
[05:30] <erick> and ask for question
[05:30] <LinuxBoyX6X> how can i speed things up?
[05:30] <dougsko> LinuxBoyX6X: basically if you just apt-get it, and run it, you're pretty much good
[05:30] <Crane> just now learning about them
[05:30] <Madpilot> arkanes: the ubuntu servers are down for maintenance, apparently...
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, using Ubuntu breezy mostly... some suse here.... er, the stuff from TheLinuxLink techshow
[05:30] <nomasteryoda|w> pretty good
[05:30] <dougsko> LinuxBoyX6X: it starts with all ports being restricted, you only have to open one if you're running a web service like apache or something
[05:30] <figment> Now I should apt-get mozilla-firefox?
[05:31] <Crane> cool I just got a couple podcasts of theirs, just haven't listened yet
[05:31] <Hobbsee> figment: if you can, the reps are down
[05:31] <Hobbsee> and stick install between apt-get and mozilla-firefox
[05:32] <Rev-Marc> warpforge what would I change in xorg.conf to disable the touchpad?
[05:32] <Crane> nomasteryoda|w, I run hoary right now, plan on upgrading soon. I'm in the process of building a new one to run breezy
[05:32] <erick> guys help me to decide which is the better secure and easy to install and manage vpn server, openvpn or freeswan
[05:32] <Crane> So does dist-upgrade to breezy work good?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> Crane, cool... i have been using breezy on all my systems for about 1 month
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[05:32] <nomasteryoda|w> very well
[05:32] <Trashcan> *.ubuntu.com still down :(
[05:32] <Laforge38> anybody use a Dell Inspiron 1150 and had to set up wireless?
[05:32] <nalioth> Crane: works very well
[05:33] <mustard5> Trashcan, yeah..all dead
[05:33] <Madpilot> Trashcan: maintenance, apparently
[05:33] <Trashcan> a virus you say?
[05:33] <Trashcan> :\
[05:33] <Trashcan> ok
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> even with ndiswrapper... which Laforge38 might need to get that wireless setup
[05:33] <LinuxBoyX6X> ok thnx
[05:33] <dougsko> ive used openvpn as a client before. i dont think youll be disapointed with either
[05:33] <nomasteryoda|w> !tell Laforge38 about ndiswrapper
[05:33] <Crane> I may try it tonight
[05:33] <Xenguy> ubotu: are you broken at the moment?
[05:33] <ubotu> Xenguy: Wish i knew
[05:33] <Xenguy> hrm
[05:34] <ditesh|cassini> since *.ubuntu.com seems to be down, can anybody tell me if postgresql-8 is shipped with breezy?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> cool
[05:34] <Laforge38> nomasterydoa|w i have tried this here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 around 10 times and not working
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, are you using WEP?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda|w> or wpa?
[05:34] <Hobbsee> Trashcan: and kubuntu.org is down
[05:34] <Xenguy> !breezy
[05:34] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:34] <erick> nalioth does ubuntu support internal modem
[05:34] <Trashcan> im assuming kubuntu and ubuntu are hosted in the same place
[05:34] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w uh maybe what is WEP?
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, check the version of your card... like mine is rev 2
[05:35] <Hobbsee> presumably, bugzilla.ubuntu.com is also down
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, no... you're not ... you would know
[05:35] <nalioth> erick: hardware modems and very very limited support for windmodems (means no winmodem support)
[05:35] <ksmurf> crimsun do I just have to shut the sound server off on startup of audacity? or do I have to keep it off the whole time?
[05:35] <transgress> anyone have the ubuntu breezy torrent?  i'd like to pull it real quick
[05:35] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w ok what comman is it to check version?
[05:36] <erick> you mean to say its better to use external modem than internal?
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, so the card firmware revision is what i'm referring too ... you can find out with "lspci"
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> looking for broadcom or bcm
[05:36] <tritium> erick, not all internal modems are winmodems
[05:36] <mustard5> what brand is your modem erick ?
[05:36] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w for network controller it is rev 03
[05:36] <Trashcan> is there a command to see the pcmcia devices?
[05:36] <TiMiDo> Trashcan: lspci
[05:36] <fredforfaen> whats a good data recovery tool for linux?
[05:37] <Trashcan> lol..
[05:37] <nalioth> fredforfaen: there is none
[05:37] <nalioth> fredforfaen: once you rm it, it's gone
[05:37] <TiMiDo> did i say something funny Trashcan ?
[05:37] <Xenguy> fredforfaen: what is the specific situation?
[05:37] <kevogod> nalioth, Um, that is not true.
[05:37] <Trashcan> nah, lol @ me
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, ok... do you have the dell winXP drivers?
[05:37] <Trashcan> thanks tim
[05:37] <nalioth> kevogod: educate us please
[05:37] <fredforfaen> nalioth i know for sure it is so with ext2
[05:37] <Rev-Marc> warpforge what would I change in xorg.conf to disable the touchpad?
[05:37] <Laforge38> yes
[05:37] <kevogod> nalioth, Removing the pointer does not remove the file from the hard disc
[05:37] <foxm> i'm new to linux and just downloaded airsnort but dont know what to do next?
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, extract the ".inf" and ".sys" files
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> for that version
[05:38] <pupil> I have vmware on linux host and guest windows 98.  I am having problems connecting network interface for the windows 98 guest.
[05:38] <intuit_> K$EE
[05:38] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w yes
[05:38] <Rev-Marc> anyone what would I change in xorg.conf to disable the touchpad?
[05:38] <transgress> okay why are all the mirrors down at the same time that ubuntu.com is down?
[05:38] <intuit_> CK
[05:38] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38,  if you have already installed ndiswrapper with one of the drivers
[05:38] <intuit_> K_$EE
[05:38] <nalioth> transgress: b/c if you "host" the mirror URLs they all resolve to the same machine
[05:38] <kevogod> nalioth, If you delete files and there has not been heavy hard disc access, you will most likely be able to recover a lot of the files
[05:39] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, run this command ... "ndiswrapper -l" to see what is loaded
[05:39] <TiMiDo> is ubuntu.com down?
[05:39] <transgress> TiMiDo yeah
[05:39] <mustard5> TiMiDo, yes
[05:39] <kevogod> TiMiDo, Would appear so
[05:39] <nomasteryoda|w> TiMiDo, for maintenance
[05:39] <TiMiDo> oh why?
[05:39] <TiMiDo> oh ic
[05:39] <nalioth> kevogod: HOW?
[05:39] <crimsun> ksmurf: just when you start it
[05:39] <intuit_> yay maintanence is cool!
[05:39] <intuit_> kj'
[05:39] <intuit_> jk
[05:39] <nalioth> kevogod: tell us in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:39] <navyn> anybody here use Pan?
[05:39] <Ky0tIk> if you are using Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy please give it a review at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php?product=607   if you are a 5.04 or previous user of Ubuntu please still read the review, and consider the update!  Even though Breezy will be finished in just 1 day, reviews help users out a lot!! take the time to read these reviews, and if you have experience good or bad, please post it, but be honest!
[05:39] <nalioth> navyn: yes we do
[05:39] <Jenocin> how do you format a usb external harddrive? qtparted and gparted don't seem to wanna do ext3
[05:39] <frank23> navyn: I've used it before, why?
[05:40] <nalioth> Ky0tIk: what are you doing?
[05:40] <figment> It has intstalled Firefox.  Should I need to restart before it will open?
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, no
[05:40] <navyn> nalioth, if you are downloading files that are split, what is a good prog in linux to join them?
[05:40] <Ky0tIk> trying to get everyone to help out before breezy is finished
[05:40] <Xenguy> navyn: cat ?
[05:40] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w installed ndis drivers: bcmwl5 driver present, hardwar present
[05:40] <Crane> can't upgrade just yet, servers are still down
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, you can open another terminal and type firefox
[05:40] <Ky0tIk> is that wrong or something?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, where's the "a" on the driver?
[05:41] <nalioth> navyn: depends on how they are split. the most common method is rar
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> with the revision 03 card you need the bcmwl5a driver
[05:41] <figment> Nothing.  It still won't start.
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> at least thats what i learned
[05:41] <Jenocin> anyone know?
[05:41] <intuit_> i've used breezy since it was available. i love testing
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, try to locate it
[05:41] <intuit_> ;-]
[05:41] <Laforge38> nomastryoda|w no
[05:41] <ajmitch_> intuit_: since april? :)
[05:42] <navyn> an example would be ace.par2, ace.vol0+1.par2
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, terminal... type "which firefox"
[05:42] <figment> How do I do that?
[05:42] <Ky0tIk> intuit_: i hear ya!
[05:42] <intuit_> i think
[05:42] <luckyaba> to install w32codecs in ubuntu 63 bit.. all i do is download and extract into /usr/lib/win32 right?
[05:42] <erick> mustard conexant
[05:42] <luckyaba> 64 bit sorry
[05:42] <nalioth> luckyaba: /usr/local/lib/codecs
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, the bcmwl5a.inf is the one to use
[05:42] <Laforge38> oh
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, you should remove the one you installed
[05:42] <transgress> woo
[05:42] <figment> Okay, it says usr/bin/firefox
[05:42] <darius_> ubuntu.com down?
[05:42] <transgress> finally found the damn torrent
[05:42] <Burgundavia> darius_, yes
[05:42] <figment> Now what?
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> using "ndiswrapper -e /pathtodriver/bcmwl5.inf"
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> or some such
[05:43] <Jenocin> mkfs.ext3 doesn't seem to be functioning correctly in breezy
[05:43] <Jenocin> anyone else having issues?
[05:43] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w command to uninstall?
[05:43] <Hobbsee> Jenocin: with what?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, that is the command
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> cd to the folder where you put the drivers
[05:43] <dougsko> Jenocin: maybe try qtparted for formatting needs
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> extracted them i mean
[05:43] <Jenocin> dougsko I am and gparted
[05:44] <navyn> in my download folder there are no associations with the file i downloaded.  how could i extract them, without going over to windows?
[05:44] <Jenocin> dougsko both are giving me mkfs.ext3 issues ext2 seems to be fine, its an external usb drive I am adding to the system
[05:44] <nomasteryoda|w> figment, try running it using full path
[05:44] <dougsko> Jenocin: hmmm....im not sure then
[05:44] <niklok> hello
[05:44] <Hobbsee> hi
[05:44] <transgress> gah
[05:44] <tercio> hi
[05:44] <transgress> the tracker runs off of ubuntu.com
[05:44] <dougsko> hi guys
[05:44] <transgress> damn it all
[05:44] <niklok> everytime I click on the "home folder" or anything like that... it doesn't open..
[05:44] <bur[n] er> but I want ubuntu now!!! 1.5 days.. aww
[05:44] <niklok> it says "opening...."
[05:44] <niklok> then closes
[05:44] <niklok> is it hidden somewhere? :P
[05:45] <Bad_Magic> why dont we throw up another tracker then?
[05:45] <intuit_> I need to contribute more. i got skills, but have been waiting for a distro that dose'nt make me want to pull my hair out. there is no point if the project is F**ED from the get go. ubuntu has a real bright future.
[05:45] <TylerDurden> r the respetories (sp) down?
[05:45] <bytefoo> yes
[05:45] <erick> niklok have you ls -al to view the files
[05:45] <Burgundavia> TylerDurden, all of ubuntu.com is down
[05:45] <Jenocin> could format it ext2 and fat32 just not ext3...
[05:45] <carpediem> niklok: sounds like nautilus is experiencing problems.  try killall nautilus, then open home
[05:45] <TylerDurden> how long does it usually take them to come up?
[05:45] <ajmitch_> intuit_: join the MOTU team for dapper ;)
[05:45] <nalioth> navyn: what is the name of ONE of the files?
[05:45] <bytefoo> should i be worried that all of my memory is being used up :|
[05:45] <tercio> tem algum aqui que fala portugues?
[05:45] <niklok> what's killall nauthilus? and what does it do?
[05:45] <navyn> ace.par2
[05:46] <Bad_Magic> it kills the gui in gnome
[05:46] <bytefoo> i mean, i've got a GIG
[05:46] <bur[n] er> intuit_: werd... bring that app you make... QuickBooks right? ;)
[05:46] <nomasteryoda|w> bytefoo, you seeing problems with your system running commands?
[05:46] <navyn> nalioth, ace.par2
[05:46] <Bad_Magic> and then restars them
[05:46] <figment> How do I run using the full path?
[05:46] <luckyaba> nalioth: i moved my extracted files from the w32 package to /usr/local/libs/codecs.. (i had to make the codecs directory) but amarok wont play mp3's
[05:46] <nalioth> !pt
[05:46] <bytefoo> yeah, sluggish performance
[05:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues.   That's what you see when you click on Home
[05:47] <bytefoo> still, i thought my hardware was good enough :/
[05:47] <nalioth> navyn: join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll explain it
[05:47] <bur[n] er> your swap is being used too?!?
[05:47] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w which folder?
[05:47] <nomasteryoda|w> the actual folder where you placed the bcmwl5.inf file first...
[05:47] <bytefoo> yes
[05:48] <bytefoo> oh wait
[05:48] <carpediem> niklok: and it's spelled "nautilus", which is important when you type killall nautilus
[05:48] <Jenocin> burner same here
[05:48] <bytefoo> that was the network graph :/
[05:48] <bur[n] er> hehe
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, i have no clue where you extracted the file... but most times i put mine right in home folder
[05:48] <bytefoo> yah seems ok
[05:48] <lui> hello hello
[05:48] <bur[n] er> is it just me or is ubuntu.com down?
[05:48] <bytefoo> guess i should switch wm's to something mo elightweight :/
[05:48] <bytefoo> it's down
[05:48] <Hobbsee> ubuntu.com is down
[05:48] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w i followed this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 if that helps
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38,  so the command would be "sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5"
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[05:48] <Hobbsee> although ubuntuforums are not :D
[05:49] <bur[n] er> eh
[05:49] <lui> it is ubutulinux.org
[05:49] <lui> it is ubuntulinux.org
[05:49] <intuit_> my harddrive is on its last leg. time to go shopping.
[05:49] <figment> Okay, I made Firefox open.  How do I change things so that is will run from the menus on the desktop?
[05:49] <bur[n] er> although... wiki.ubuntu.com is up still :)
[05:49] <bytefoo> it's all up
[05:49] <bytefoo> now :/
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> ThomasM, howdy
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> again
[05:50] <ThomasM> oi nomasteryoda|w
[05:50] <lui> and now I check ubuntu.com and it is online
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> lui, they must have installed new kernel
[05:50] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[05:51] <_native_> im intuit
[05:51] <lui> nomasteryoda|w, yep, maybe it is :)
[05:51] <figment> Firefox will launch if I type; sudo firefox  But it won't launch from the menu.
[05:51] <_native_> haha
[05:52] <lui> can I disable sudo for other users of ubuntu?
[05:52] <enigmatic> that's incredibly odd
[05:52] <frank23> figment: that is strange...
[05:52] <_native_> welcome to the jungle ahh we got fun and games!
[05:52] <enigmatic> lui yes
[05:52] <bur[n] er> figment: mv ~/.firefox ~/.firefox-old
[05:52] <kYotiK> can someone check a screenshot out for me and tell me what something is? i have a url.. i was just looking at something and i have been wanting to use this for a while
[05:52] <bob832> hey, is there a program like WinSCP for Linux or is the SCP command the only thing available?
[05:52] <Madpilot> figment: you shouldn't really be launcing FF w/ sudo at all...
[05:52] <bur[n] er> er... figment:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[05:52] <ThomasM> lui: Yes.
[05:52] <nalioth> kYotiK: what it it?
[05:52] <enigmatic> kYotiK, can try
[05:52] <frank23> figment: you could try to reset your profile but bur[n] er beat me to it
[05:52] <Jenocin> how do you label partitions?
[05:52] <bur[n] er> figment: your user config is prolly just messed up
[05:52] <_native_> anyone seen procrastination_nation lately?
[05:52] <figment> Will I have to do this for all users?
[05:53] <lui> enigmatic, ok, now I have to find the way
[05:53] <bur[n] er> frank23: i beat ya, but I should have checked first ;)
[05:53] <kYotiK> well its something simple
[05:53] <nomasteryoda|w> _native_, thats kinda off-topic is it not?
[05:53] <enigmatic> man sudo
[05:53] <dougsko> lui: type 'visudo' in terminal and take users out of the file
[05:53] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w the only bcmwl5a i have is an .ini
[05:53] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, so you do have the bcmwl5a.inf ...
[05:53] <_native_> yeah he's a local friend
[05:53] <kYotiK> it is those cool looking application bars, and the embedded apps into the desktop, like winamp, etc... i just want to know how to use those
[05:53] <nomasteryoda|w> no?
[05:53] <kYotiK> like the ones in these screen shots i have.. is it ok to post them in the chan?
[05:53] <lui> dougsko, oh is just that easy? jejeje, great :)
[05:54] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w not in the driver i downloaded from dell
[05:54] <enigmatic> kYotiK,  in gnome?
[05:54] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, you need the .inf file.. that contains the descriptors needed by ndiswrapper to install the .sys file
[05:54] <nomasteryoda|w> er, mine has it
[05:54] <nalioth> kYotiK: use #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:54] <dougsko> lui: yeah but you might need to google vi commands, cause theyre kinda wierd
[05:55] <kYotiK> enigmatic, yes its in gnome
[05:55] <Laforge38> nomasteryoda|w  so all three files have to be bcmwl5a?
[05:55] <kYotiK> enigmatic, im sorry i meant xmms not winamp lol
[05:55] <frank23> lui: if you don't know vi, use nano
[05:55] <malv> anyone else get strange errors when compiling code now that it uses gcc 4.0?
[05:55] <_native_> i stick with 3.4
[05:55] <lui> dougsko, oh ok, I'll need to google into that
[05:55] <malv> . /usr/include/c++/4.0.2/bits/sstream.tcc:112: error: expected unqualified-id before '(' token
[05:56] <lui> thanks frank23
[05:56] <frank23> lui: nano is much easier
[05:56] <enigmatic> kYotiK, all you need to do is create a custom panel, add the apps you want to it and place it where you want it
[05:56] <dougsko> lui: you can use nano, but you cant edit the sudoers file directly, it can be corrupted. i forget how to use another editor on it
[05:56] <concept10> Firefox has problems playing embedded video on my system sometimes.  How do I disable the totem-mozilla plugin?  I want use mplayer only...
[05:56] <ThomasM> malv: I've had issues with defined constants, but patched around them.
[05:56] <nomasteryoda|w> Laforge38, the inf and sys need to be
[05:56] <figment> I typed mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old, and firefox still won't run.
[05:56] <luckyaba> how can i get w32 coodecs working in ubuntu 64 bit?
[05:56] <malv> ThomasM: I just decided to link gcc and g++ back to 3.4
[05:56] <gurubie> Grub screen is black, no selection seen but can be selected (arrow down.) I tried commenting (out) the graphics menu line in "menu.lst" but still dark. How do I fix?
[05:57] <erick> guys hello
[05:57] <lui> dougsko, all right, I have to be careful
[05:57] <prc> Does anyone here have any experience using IPOD with breezy?
[05:57] <kYotiK> enigmatic, what about the apps that are embedded into the desktop, like i have seen xmms, network stats, weather, etc.. how do u do that too?
[05:57] <frank23> luckyaba: look in the amd64 forums, but my suggestion is to use the x86 version of ubuntu
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> why this channel not use a jabber conference room?
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> irc deads
[05:58] <malv> is it?
[05:58] <Jenocin> ok how do you stop automounting in gnome?
[05:59] <enigmatic> sec, let me look
[05:59] <ThomasM> BROKEN_LADDER: Um. We're not really here then, are we?
[05:59] <dougsko> Jenocin: edit /etc/fstab
[06:00] <Trashcan> really? irc is dead?
[06:00] <Xenguy>  /igr BROKEN_LADDER
[06:00] <Trashcan> ...alert the internets
[06:00] <prc> Does anyone here have any experience using IPOD with breezy?
[06:00] <Jenocin> its  usb.. keeps putting it back in.. problem is with the gpart and qparted it mounts the partition before it formats it
[06:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> prc you'd have a really easy time using a cowon iaudio player in linux since it works as a usb mass storage device.
[06:00] <frank23> prc: ask the question, if someone can help, they will
[06:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> irc is obsolete, let me put it that way.
[06:00] <erick> nalioth how can i star the gui session im using sever mode
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> irc is like miles.  jabber is like metric.
[06:01] <phiqtion> where can i update my sources.list ?
[06:01] <frank23> BROKEN_LADDER: what are you doing here then ^
[06:01] <ThomasM> BROKEN_LADDER: Then you'd do well to stay off it, yes?
[06:01] <nalioth> erick: you want a gui on the box?
[06:01] <malv> ThomasM: no need to be rude
[06:01] <erick> yes
[06:01] <erick> there is no startx command
[06:01] <ThomasM> malv: Mea culpa.
[06:01] <erick> and even init 5
[06:01] <dougsko> phiqtion: you can edit it inside synaptic
[06:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm trying to convert the masses.  drop qwerty, use dvorak.  use esperanto.  use jabber. use vorbis.
[06:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> use metric
[06:02] <frank23> BROKEN_LADDER: use esperanto....  that one will take a while!
[06:02] <carpediem> This "Add Applications" feature in Breezy is brilliant.
[06:02] <nomasteryoda|w> er, we use what works BROKEN_LADDER ... that is a fact.... and IRC does work well . .. end of story.
[06:02] <dougsko> phiqtion: otherwise its here, /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <erick> brb its lunch time here
[06:02] <ThomasM> nomasteryoda|w: Tested and refined by years of use, it is.
[06:03] <nomasteryoda|w> carpediem, kinda like "add-remove programs" in windows , huh?
[06:03] <nomasteryoda|w> ThomasM, true
[06:03] <phiqtion> dougsko, im trying to find xine or mplayer or any codecs. i just installed breezy RC.
[06:03] <figment> I can't get firefox to run without using sudo.
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/cas/103544257.html
[06:03] <carpediem> nomasteryoda|w: no, that doesn't show me programs that I don't have installed like this does.
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> frank23 ne vere.  mi nun uzas in, kaj ne havas problemojn.
[06:03] <figment> It opens right up if I type sudo first, but does absolutely nothing otherwise.
[06:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> seru la 'reton por i, kaj spektu iujn la situojn kiuj temas pri i.
[06:04] <nomasteryoda|w> carpediem, i stand corrected... i try not to use windows..
[06:04] <din> gn
[06:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> heh.
[06:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> bye
[06:04] <carpediem> nomasteryoda|w: ugh...me too...work is work.
[06:04] <_jason> figment:  check if you have a firefox process open... ps aux | grep firefox
[06:04] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[06:04] <TylerDurden> does smoeone mind VNCing me and helping me out ejecting a cd?
[06:04] <bur[n] er> figment: you remove the config directory?
[06:04] <_native_> lets just always keep linux linux and not try to be so "user friendly" that we lose the security, robustness, and modularity
[06:05] <nomasteryoda|w> TylerDurden, did you try the icon on desktop?
[06:05] <TylerDurden> yes
[06:05] <TylerDurden> and eject with -f
[06:05] <phiqtion> how can i download mplayer, xine, multimedia codecs in sypnaptic?
[06:05] <dougsko> phiqtion: apt-get install vlc, vlc will play bassically everything right out of the box
[06:05] <carpediem> TylerDurden: did you try typing "eject /media/cdrom"
[06:05] <figment> I need to remove the config directory?  How do I do that?
[06:05] <TylerDurden> yeah
[06:05] <ThomasM> TylerDurden: Is it still mounted at all?
[06:05] <nomasteryoda|w> TylerDurden, sudo :
[06:05] <TylerDurden> can someone please VNC me and see whats wrong?
[06:05] <Trashcan> lol tyler
[06:05] <bur[n] er> TylerDurden: i'm more than happy to vnc :)
[06:06] <TylerDurden> ok burner
[06:06] <TylerDurden> ill pm u my ip
[06:06] <Trashcan> i'll do it no problem :)
[06:06] <TylerDurden> ok trashcan i trust u more
[06:06] <lui> what vnc?
[06:06] <wabble> carpediem: i agre, but i get a problem every time i try to choose open with on vlc. Its irritating
[06:06] <figment> I type ps aux | grep firefox and it says 7715  0.0  3.4  56404 17680 ?        Sl   Oct11   0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox   10880  0.0  0.1   3032   716 pts/0    S+   00:05   0:00 grep firefox  But I don't know what that means.
[06:06] <lui> what's vnc?
[06:06] <bur[n] er> eh, whatever
[06:06] <bur[n] er> good luck Trashcan
[06:06] <Trashcan> lolol