[14:14] <Queenslayer> someone235: get off that
[14:14] <Queenslayer> Just been told to not use gedit from shell
[14:14] <Pici> arkie: I'm afraid that the package you want isn't available on Ubuntu, so you would need tompile from source.
[14:14] <Queenslayer> So use nano or VI
[14:14] <someone235> Queenslayer, this is what I did
[14:15] <arkie> Pici, how can i compile from source?
[14:15] <someone235> Queenslayer, btw, what it's bad?
[14:15] <Pici> arkie: I was looking at a debian server, not my Ubuntu one.
[14:15] <someone235> *why
[14:15] <ioria> !info php5-geos wily
[14:15] <ioria> !info php5-geos trusty
[14:16] <Pici> arkie: This seems to have some good instructions: http://www.saintsjd.com/2014/06/05/howto-intsall-libgeos-with-php5-bindings-ubuntu-trusty-14.04.html
[14:16] <Guest66451> Im getting the 'Failed to power off via logind. Transaction is destrctive.' Dont see any errors in dmesg
[14:16] <someone235> Queenslayer, it doesn't work
[14:16] <Queenslayer> Not bad commands
[14:16] <arkie> thanks Pici
[14:17] <Queenslayer> K delete those lines from your shell
[14:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Another solution, yet more time-consuming, would be to send the server to 16.04 when the .1 release comes by so that you'll have php5-geos available to you
[14:17] <Queenslayer> someone235: did you do sudo update-grub?
[14:18] <someone235> Queenslayer, not after /etc/modules edit
[14:18] <Queenslayer> Should have
[14:18] <SonikkuAmerica> That'd be in about 2 months though, so source compiling is about the only thing you can do at this point
[14:18] <Queenslayer> But in any case do it again but from shell
[14:18] <Queenslayer> Keep it on shell
[14:19] <guri> hola
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> !es | guri
[14:20] <someone235> Queenslayer, Now I did update-grub after /etc/modules is saved
[14:20] <someone235> Queenslayer, but it doesn't work
[14:21] <Queenslayer> K
[14:22] <Guest66451> Im getting the 'Failed to power off via logind. Transaction is destrctive.' Dont see any errors in dmesg
[14:22] <klaasvakie> I'm on 16.04 and trying to get "predictable interface names" disabled properly. I've used "ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules" from here: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[14:23] <klaasvakie> That works for my wireless interface, but USB ethernet dongles still produce garbage like: enx3c18a0050d85
[14:23] <Queenslayer> someone235: on GRUB_CMD.....delete everything after "="
[14:23] <Queenslayer> Someone use nano instead of gedit
[14:25] <iurri> hello everyone, in order to erase a usb drive (sdb), is this dd command correct: ~$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4k conv=notrunc,noerror ?
[14:32] <arkie> Pici, compiled!
[14:32] <arkie> but now i need to edit my php.ini file
[14:33] <arkie> extension=geos.so
[14:33] <arkie> and add that line
[14:33] <arkie> wouldn't there be multiple php.ini files?
[14:34] <Pici> arkie: php is weird and beyond my understanding, sorry.
[14:36] <arkie> I'm in the php.ini file
[14:36] <arkie> in nano
[14:36] <arkie> but i don't know where exactly to add the line extension=geos.so
[14:36] <arkie> can someone help?
[14:38] <ioria> arkie,  http://dev.antoinesolutions.com/ubuntu-14.04-trusty/install-and-configure-geos-php-bindings-on-ubuntu-14.04
[14:38] <josselin_> aa
[14:40] <Jakey4> iptables seem to be a big topic to learn
[14:40] <Jakey4> ?
[14:41] <arkie> ioria, its different here though
[14:41] <MoonBurst> Why might I want to, or not want to use proprietary drivers?
[14:41] <arkie> If you've build the package from source, you must edit your php.ini and add a new line:
[14:41] <arkie> extension=geos.s
[14:44] <Sagar> how do i correct these?
[14:44] <Sagar> The following packages have unmet dependencies. libpcre3-dev : Depends: libpcre3 (= 2:8.38-3.1) but 2:8.38-3.1+deb.sury.org~xenial+3 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[14:45] <lyze_phone_> Sagar sudo apt-get -f install
[14:45] <ducasse> Jakey4: you might want to consider a frontend, like ferm or ufw.
[14:45] <layke_> Hey.  Switch to achi mode. Install ubuntu. Switch to tty mode, update ubuntu, upgrade..
[14:46] <layke_> I had problems where it was instantly crashing...
[14:46] <layke_> Anyway, my question I have now is.. how can I find out if I actgually have raid1? I'm not 100% sure I destroyed it
[14:46] <Jakey4> ducasse, im looking to get into the underlaying logic behind
[14:47] <layke_> This is my lsblk http://paste.ubuntu.com/16656270/
[14:47] <layke_> Is that raided? I dont know what I'm looking at
[14:48] <ducasse> Jakey4: well, then you just need to dig in. but iptables is being replaced by nftables, so you might want to learn that instead.
[14:48] <layke_> From what I can see, I have two disks, 1 lvm on disk 1, and \disk 2 isn't used for anything
[14:48] <Jakey4> ducasse, thanks for the info
[14:49] <ducasse> layke_: those are two separate disks, not raid1.
[14:51] <layke_> ducasse, Thanks :) My question.. (I don't believe I can get raid working. It just wouldn't install for me). Since I want to install Windows as dual boot. What are my options? Should I just install windows on the spare disk?
[14:51] <layke_> Or would I need to install windows on the same disk as the boot device?
[14:52] <ducasse> layke_: doesn't matter, as long as they both install their bootloader to the same efi partition.
[14:53] <Sagar> anyone?
[14:53] <Sagar> The following packages have unmet dependencies. libpcre3-dev : Depends: libpcre3 (= 2:8.38-3.1) but 2:8.38-3.1+deb.sury.org~xenial+3 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[14:54] <latk> what is the default user/password on the ubuntu coud vagrant images ?
[14:54] <latk> cloud*
[14:54] <layke_> Isn't it usually ubuntu, and then no password?
[14:54] <lerner> ubuntu 16.04: it was left on for 18 hours, 2 minutes ago it shut itself down without me doing anything: I pressed the button to start it again and resultst that the os was asleep, so im back where I was left, I proceed to move the mouse, which works for 2 minutes and then the os gets blocked. I see the screen but cannot do anything: no function keys work either. I restarted it (unplugging the energy cable) and im back. what happened and why?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: did you add external ppa's of any kind?
[14:57] <Sagar> i did before
[14:57] <Sagar> removed them now
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: did you manually remove or ppa-purge?
[15:00] <hhee> hey guys
[15:00] <hhee> which 2-panel filemanager do you use?
[15:00] <phiphler> does 16.04 use the new AMD gpu driver, amdgpu?
[15:00] <Sagar> i removed the ppa
[15:00] <Sagar> didn't purge it or anything
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> phiphler: amdgpu or radeon, depending on the card
[15:01] <phiphler> lotuspsychje, guess my card isn't supported by amdgpu th
[15:02] <phiphler> yet, thanks for answer!
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> phiphler: whats happening exactly?
[15:02] <Sagar> lotuspsychje?
[15:02] <phiphler> lotuspsychje, trying to launch dota2 with the -vulkan flag, supposed to work if you have amdgpu
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: doublecheck your sources.list if you still have leftovers?
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> phiphler: you might try the #gamingonlinux channel, they know alot on latest gaming issues
[15:03] <ducasse> hhee: console - mc, gui - doublecmd or spacefm.
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> phiphler: did you clean install or upgrade?
[15:05] <Sagar> lotuspsychje: nothing left
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: try sudo apt install -f perhaps
[15:06] <hhee> ducasse, cool. double nice
[15:06] <ducasse> hhee: personally i prefer spacefm, it's very powerful and extensible.
[15:07] <Sagar> lotuspsychje: doesn't work
[15:07] <SpacePirate> I created a new account on my file server. But fsr, whenever I go to sign into the account, instead of bash being the default shell, it's sh. How do I fix this?
[15:07] <SpacePirate> I want bash as my default.
[15:07] <ducasse> SpacePirate: chsh
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: can you pastebin the full output of sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade please?
[15:07] <hhee> ducasse, never watch it earlier. i'll watch
[15:09] <SpacePirate> ducasse: kk thx.
[15:10] <Sagar> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/tQsDdYAJ
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: ppa-purge mongodb's ppa first
[15:11] <Sagar> mongodb is not from ppa
[15:11] <Sagar> its in source.list via official repo
[15:11] <Sagar> the ppa was odrej
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: its not a ppa ubuntu comes by default
[15:12] <Sagar> but u see
[15:12] <Hanumaan> is dh-python package is a ubuntu package or debian?
[15:12] <Sagar> lib libpcre3 came from odrej ppa as far i know
[15:13] <genii> !info dh-python
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: and you removed odrej ppa already i presume?
[15:14] <Sagar> yes
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: try dpkg --purge --force-all libpcre3
[15:15] <Sagar> and what will it do?
[15:15] <Sagar> it will remove all other packages too?
[15:15] <Sagar> because when i do apt remove libpcre3 its selecting alot of packages
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: whats it related to?
[15:15] <Sagar> php7 and pythong
[15:16] <Sagar> there http://prntscr.com/b7vxfg
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: no better abort
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: what kind of ppa's were you using before removal?
[15:18] <Lith> Hi
[15:19] <Lith> What IRC client are you guys using ?
[15:19] <zek> i like hexchat
[15:19] <ducasse> Lith: weechat
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: what packages besides mongodb?
[15:20] <MoonBurst> If I were to put swapspace on another drive and removed it, what issues might that cause for me?
[15:20] <Hanumaan> installing python3 getting encodings error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16656961/  any help ? should I ask this in python group?
[15:21] <Lith> Hexchat is not a terminal client. I'm gonna give it a try
[15:21] <Sagar> lotuspsychje: i used to install php5.6 which isn't official in ubuntu 16
[15:21] <Sagar> then i remove php5.6 back and install official php7
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: perhaps try a fix broken packages first from recoverymode
[15:21] <donofrio> anyone here setup a video wall using ubuntu boxes like www.geek.com/chips/raspberry-pis-to-control-massive-video-walls-with-no-real-size-limit-1551255/ but with any type of desktop hardware I want....ya know??
[15:23] <donofrio> like these folks do - http://www.piwall.co.uk/ - but without the RPi's
[15:23] <OerHeks> donofrio, go try it? http://www.piwall.co.uk/information/installation
[15:25] <donofrio> OerHeks, nice skimming not in a hurry fwiw, but the deb they provide are for arm7 only not x86 - pwlibs1_1.1_armhf.deb ??
[15:25] <Sagar> lotuspsychje: i have no idea how to do that
[15:26] <OerHeks> donofrio, on the bottom of that page there are urls to the sourcecode
[15:26] <donofrio> I mean I do see source libs but was hoping for 'yah just install this and this or this' :)
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: enter shift at boot to enter grub, then choose ubuntu(recoverymode) after that choose fix broken packages
[15:27] <Sagar> its a ubuntu server
[15:27] <clinton227> Hello
[15:27] <clinton227> Anyone free for a query?
[15:27] <ducasse> !ask | clinton227
[15:28] <k1l> clinton227: for technical ubuntu support just ask in here
[15:28] <infandum> How can I check what package installed a shared library?
[15:28] <infandum> like, how can I see what installed libR.so?
[15:28] <user123> token: 88c25f0c7c9071e26b4b3c51a18cbdbb81e182d25a3616ccfe9c9c5cce9c1602
[15:29] <Pici> infandum: dpkg -S libR.so
[15:29] <clinton227> Do I need to have a unix user for every Samba user or I can skip creating a unix user?
[15:31] <infandum> Pici: Thanks. Is there a way to hide a shared library like libR.so? This machine has 3 versions of it and I just want to use one but everything points to the wrong one. Can I only use that one FOR MY USER ONLY, no one else?
[15:32] <bittin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIJjEzCs3iM
 Hello, recently I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a virtual Digital Ocean server, with xfce4 gui desktop and TightVNC server.
 In Windows 10 I am able to view the root user's desktop with TightVNC viewer, but I am not able to do so as a non-root user.
 Can someone help with this?
[15:35] <raul782> Hello guys, I have upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04, and while my LAMP stack is working fine, I found odd that the service php5-fpm is still present, I tried to remove it but it says it's already removed however it's displayed when I do #sudo service php5-fpm status
[15:36] <Pici> infandum: hmm..  I was going to suggest setting a custom LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but I'm it seems like that may not wrok.  I do believe that you can still set LD_PRELOAD to the path to whichever libR.so that you want to load though
[15:39] <infandum> Pici: I tried LD_PRELOAD before, but that unfortunately didn't help. Here is my issue: I want to use haskellr on an ubuntu machine, but the owner wants to avoid using ubuntu's repositories and built R from source. I'm running into an issue where I get a "can't find the function anyNA" error. I think, based on some research, that this all goes back to the fact that there are three libR.so files and so it looks
[15:39] <infandum> at the R binary that was compiled and the WRONG libR.so, so there might be some conflict.
[15:40] <infandum> That's a bit too much detail, but the main goal is to have programs only see the compiled libR.so, not the one in /usr/lib/ or /usr/lib/R/lib
[15:40] <user______> Hi
[15:40] <user______> I have new computer and I removed Windows , I want install ubuntu and other distros . What is the best install ubuntu with UEFI or normal boot?
[15:41] <OerHeks> !uefi
[15:41] <OerHeks> user______, ^^
[15:42] <MoonBurst> For some reason, my headphones seem to have a constant static. Is there a chance that this is a software problem, or is it most surely hardware?
[15:42] <ducasse> user______: i prefer uefi, i find it much nicer to deal with.
[15:43] <usr13> MoonBurst: Try adjusting volume controls on the various channels
[15:43] <Sagar> > /usr/bin/dpkg: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:43] <Sagar> anyone who can help me?
[15:43] <TheSilentLink> hello can my pc run ubuntu or would another distro be better?
[15:43] <TheSilentLink> Client: HexChat 2.12.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: AMD E-450 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (1.65GHz) • Memory: 3.6 GiB Total (1.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 210.9 GiB / 451.4 GiB (240.5 GiB Free) • VGA: AMD Radeon HD 6320 Graphics • Uptime: 9m 14s
[15:43] <riqj> hello everyone, I'd like to create an installer usb with startup disk creator, but it says not enough free space for a fully empty and large usb drive
[15:43] <Sagar> lotuspsychje: /usr/bin/dpkg: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:44] <MoonBurst> usr13: I only get two. One for volume and one for balance
[15:44] <jake54321> When logging in with TightVNC viewer in Windows 10 I get a grey screen instead of xfce4 desktop.  Has anyone else encountered this issue?
[15:44] <usr13> Sagar: sudo find / -name libpcre.so.3 -type f
[15:44] <riqj> ok decided to solve otherwise, thank you
[15:44] <ducasse> Sagar: did you set the full path?
[15:44] <usr13> Sagar: sudo find / -name "libpcre.so*" -type f
[15:44] <OerHeks> TheSilentLink, ubuntu will be fine, even you do have Radeon HD
[15:45] <Sagar> sudo: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:45] <usr13> MoonBurst: alsamixer
[15:45] <Sagar> nothing is working without libpcre
[15:45] <Sagar> how can i install it via dpkg?
[15:45] <usr13> MoonBurst: Is it a laptop or desktop?
[15:45] <Hanumaan> how to completely clean and reinstall python3 in ubuntu?
[15:45] <TheSilentLink> OerHeks: o ok so my pc can run it fine? Also can I duel boot it with windows 10?
[15:45] <user______> Do you mean when I install ubuntu create partition 1GB for uefi , and another partition for root ?
[15:46] <usr13> Sagar: sudo find / -name "libpcre*" -type f
[15:46] <OerHeks> TheSilentLink, sure
[15:46] <MoonBurst> usr13: Desktop, dualboot of windows10 and ubuntu 16.04
[15:46] <Pici> Hanumaan: Why would you need to do that?
[15:46] <usr13> MoonBurst: Is there a mic attached?
[15:46] <TheSilentLink> OerHeks: so will the installer take care of duel booting?
[15:46] <MoonBurst> usr13: Yes, though disabling it doesn't seem to actually change anything as far as the static
[15:47] <Sagar> anyone?
[15:47] <Sagar> sudo: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:47] <OerHeks> TheSilentLink, yes, it will install Grub2 bootloader
[15:47] <usr13> MoonBurst: Does unplugging it make a difference?
[15:47] <Sagar> usr13: ^
[15:47] <ducasse> user______: something like that.
[15:47] <MoonBurst> no
[15:47] <user______> Thank you
[15:47] <TheSilentLink> OerHeks: ok and one last question can I set it to autoboot windows?
[15:47] <usr13> Sagar: Does the file exist on your system?
[15:47] <MoonBurst> usr13: No, but I'm suspecting it might be because it's usb powered.
[15:47] <OerHeks> Thei think so, see the gub manual
[15:48] <OerHeks> !grub | TheSilentLink
[15:48] <Sagar> usr13: which file?
[15:49] <usr13> Sagar: libpcre.so.3
[15:49] <robot__> quit
[15:49] <usr13> Sagar: Did you do a search?
[15:49] <Sagar> nothing is working
[15:49] <Sagar> with it
[15:49] <Sagar> i pasted it
[15:50] <Sagar> sudo: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:50] <usr13> Sagar: Did you do a search for it?
[15:50] <Sagar> usr13: u mean find / -name "libpcre*" -type f
[15:50] <usr13> Sagar: Yes
[15:50] <Sagar> find: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:51] <Sagar> nothing is working that's what i am saying
[15:51] <nacc> Sagar: sorry, missed the context, when are you seeing that?
[15:51] <TheSilentLink> OerHeks: thanks a lot very useful
[15:51] <Sagar> i removed libpcre3 due to umnet and now nothing is working
[15:51] <TheSilentLink> OerHeks: answered most of my questions!
[15:51] <nacc> Sagar: do you have 'libpcre3' installed?
[15:51] <OerHeks> TheSilentLink, have fun!
[15:51] <Sagar> no
[15:51] <usr13> Sagar: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:51] <Sagar> nacc: no
[15:51] <Sagar> ubuntu 16
[15:51] <Sagar> i am on a server
[15:51] <nacc> Sagar: why did you remove libpcre3? "umnet"?
[15:52] <nacc> Sagar: there are a *lot* of reverse-dependencies on libpcre3
[15:52] <Sagar> nacc: yes now i know
[15:52] <nacc> Sagar: so how did you remove it?
[15:52] <Sagar> libpcre3: because it wasn't letting me update or install updates
[15:53] <Sagar> first case please help me reinstall libpcre3 anyway
[15:53] <nacc> Sagar: not why, but how?
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> nacc, usr13 he added ppa's removed them without ppapurge
[15:53] <nacc> lotuspsychje: ah.
[15:54] <usr13> Sagar:  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpcre*list
[15:54] <nacc> lotuspsychje: poorly timed netsplit, so i was (possibly still am) only seeing half the conversations :)
[15:54] <Sagar> ls: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:55] <lerner> how do I extract a mdf file?
[15:55] <blackbird_> hi
[15:56] <usr13> Sagar: So, basically, you can not do *anything*. Right?
[15:56] <blackbird_> I created a partition labled "HOME" but I can't see it in the filemanager ?!
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> nacc, usr13 he installed a lower php version and got stuck with that shared lib now
[15:56] <onkar975> hello
[15:57] <blackbird_> !paste
[15:57] <Sagar> lost my deal
[15:57] <Sagar> nacc: lotuspsychje: [21:24] <Sagar> ls: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:57] <ducasse> Sagar: 'echo /var/cache/apt/archives/libpcre3*'
[15:58] <Sagar> now i cannot even get inside server
[15:58] <Sagar> :(
[15:58] <usr13> Sagar: When did this start to happen?  What change(s) were made prior to this aappening?
[15:58] <usr13> Sagar: Were you working from ssh?
[15:58] <blackbird_> the result of lsblk -f : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16657936/
[15:58] <onkar975> how do i change the order of grub menu
[15:59] <Sagar> yes
[15:59] <Sagar> what should i do now?
[15:59] <DArqueBishop> Sagar: if you can't even use apt to reinstall libpcre3, you're done, IMHO. Back up your data and reload.
[15:59] <Sagar> :(
[15:59] <Sagar> i canot even get into server
[15:59] <blackbird_> onkar975, /etc/default/grub
[16:00] <onkar975> thankyou
[16:00] <blackbird_> you're welcome
[16:00] <ducasse> Sagar: even if you could get in, you wouldn't be able to install libpcre3. you need to restore or reinstall.
[16:01] <Sagar> ducasse: how?
[16:01] <ducasse> Sagar: how to reinstall?
[16:01] <blackbird_> onkar975, then change the value of GRUB_DEFAULT
[16:01] <Sagar> yes
[16:01] <thms_work> I have an unknown device in my PVs and I have dupliace VG warning, can anyone help
[16:02] <ducasse> Sagar: is this a vps?
[16:02] <Sagar> dedicated server
[16:02] <ducasse> Sagar: remote?
[16:03] <GnomeKris> http://imgur.com/ydf0wiV What is this horse crap?
[16:03] <Sagar> i think i didn't installed it
[16:03] <GnomeKris> Why is the theme jacked up like this. I literally haven't changed anything except turning on the "universal dark theme"
[16:04] <k1l> GnomeKris: then this theme is broken. use another one
[16:04] <blackbird_> please any help ?
[16:05] <DArqueBishop> Sagar: do you have another admin who installed the server for you?
[16:05] <Sagar> I opened the ticket and asking them
[16:05] <felipejose> someone here this need to host a site, if you send me a message I'm offering 10 accounts for free
[16:05] <squinty> onkar975, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2
[16:07] <GnomeKris> It's a default theme...why would it ship with a default theme that is broken?
[16:08] <onkar975> blackbird_: ok thank you every one
[16:11] <huwjr> hey
[16:11] <huwjr> d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select atomic in a preseed created a separate /home partition
[16:11] <huwjr> any ideas as to why? xenial
[16:11] <Guest55478> 'Failed to start poweroff.target: Trqansaction is destructive
[16:12] <Jakey4> how do i update my gpg package on ubuntu 14.04
[16:12] <Jakey4> ?
[16:13] <ducasse> Jakey4: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[16:13] <k1l> Jakey4: why do you think you will need to update?
[16:16] <Guest55478> I cant reboot or poweroff, 'Transaction is destructive'
[16:16]  * LugariusAlbe loves every ubuntu usr
[16:17] <Jakey4> ducasse, i dont want to upgrade my distro just the gpg package
[16:18] <k1l> Jakey4: the package gets the scurity updates with the systemupdates. so just run the updatemanager or on terminal: "sudo apt update&& sudo apt full-upgrade"
[16:18] <ducasse> Jakey4: try 'apt-get install gpgv2' after updating the package lists.
[16:18] <k1l> Jakey4: i think we explained that some times already to you the last weeks.
[16:19] <Jakey4> k1l, nope
[16:19] <Jakey4> must be an imposter
[16:19] <Sagar> nacc: lotuspsychje: i am in rescue mode what can i do?
[16:19] <LostSoul> Hi
[16:20] <LostSoul> I've created an ntfs parition under linux, on both laptops with linux it's visible but under windows it's not detected as ntfs
[16:20] <Jakey4> ducasse, thanks
[16:20] <LostSoul> Any idea 1. Why? 2. Is is possible to change it now without formatting whole disk?
[16:20] <LostSoul> partition *
[16:21] <de-facto> what do you see in windows? how did you create it on linux?
[16:21] <ducasse> LostSoul: i'm guessing you need to set the partition code to whatever windows expects.
[16:23] <de-facto> LostSoul you should be able to see it via "sudo fdisk -l" (lower case L meaning "list")
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: try reoverymode==>fix broken packages
[16:24] <blackbird_> !paste
[16:25] <onkar975> hello, anyone online?
[16:25] <nacc> !ask | onkar975
[16:25] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: won't work, dpkg needs libpcre3.
[16:25] <onkar975> ok, thanks
[16:25] <BluesKaj> only 1969 at last counr :-)
[16:26] <LostSoul> de-facto: I created primary partion on entire external hdd
[16:26] <LostSoul> Then I made fast format with mkfs.ntfs
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: then try reinstall ducasse suggested, its the price to pay for adding external ppa's..
[16:27] <LostSoul> Under Windows it's no listed in "my computer" but when I go to HDD deviced, it sees it as disk without any file system and only thing I can do is erase volume
[16:27] <LostSoul> Did I go the wrong way?
[16:27] <LostSoul> Only strage thing I noticed is:
[16:27] <ducasse> LostSoul: partitions have a numeric code, linux has probably assigned the wrong one.
[16:28] <LostSoul> /dev/sdb1        2048<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER> 931,5G 83 Linux
[16:28] <LostSoul> Is it possible to change it without format?
[16:28] <de-facto> LostSoul ok what partition type does "sudo fdisk --list" show for it? the Id should be 7 and the type "HPFS/NTFS/exFAT"
[16:28] <LostSoul> Booting on live-cd is to copy data is problematic for me atm
[16:28] <ducasse> LostSoul: yes.
[16:28] <LostSoul> de-facto: ^ "Linux"
[16:28] <de-facto> yup thats the problem i guess
[16:29] <LostSoul> Any tip how to change it without data loss?
[16:29] <de-facto> i guess with fdisk
[16:29] <de-facto> no need to touch the filesystem itself
[16:29] <de-facto> or gparted if you like the GUI way
[16:30] <de-facto> LostSoul ^^
[16:31] <\9> LostSoul: be extra careful when dealing with any partitioning tools and do not do any actions you don't fully understand
[16:33] <LostSoul> \9: Sure thing, thanks. de-facto You too.
[16:33] <LostSoul> I'm not newbie, but yeah I'm not master either :)
[16:34] <Jakey4> when i try to create a gpg key
[16:34] <\9> I just feel compelled to warn about it. fact is that it's very easy to wipe all your data with them
[16:34] <Jakey4> it says it doesnt have enough entropy and i should do something on the computer
[16:34] <Jakey4> but i am remoting in from ssh
[16:34] <de-facto> LostSoul my preformated WD Elements (external USB disk) shows like "/dev/sdb1        2048<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>  1,8T  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT"
[16:34] <Jakey4> so what am i meant to do
[16:34] <Jakey4> moving the mouse doesnt make a differece
[16:34] <mcphail> Jakey4: yep. Access disks etc
[16:34] <k1l> Jakey4: click with the mouse, open programs, etc.
[16:35] <Jakey4> on ssh?
[16:35] <mcphail> Jakey4: disk and network access increases the entropy pool
[16:35] <tgm4883> Jakey4: login to a second ssh session and do stuff
[16:35] <Jakey4> ye was trying that
[16:35] <Jakey4> just wasnt buding must take some time
[16:36] <mcphail> Jakey4: It'll be faster to create the key locally then send it across, though
[16:36] <LostSoul> \9, de-facto: Changing type should not wipe it, yeah?
[16:37] <zrneely> I'm still on 15.04 (sadly). I want to upgrade to 15.10, but I need to fix an issue with python first. I used checkinstall to install python 3.5, and now I can't install/uninstall anything... here's a pastebin of the output of apt-get upgrade. http://pastebin.com/n2DvzQ8j
[16:37] <cosmicfires> 16.04 is good :)
[16:37] <Sagar> nacc: lotuspsychje: i am in rescue mode what can i do?
[16:37] <de-facto> LostSoul i dont think it would wipe, if you leave everything else (like the addresses and the filesystem) alone
[16:38] <\9> de-facto: but you're not sure?
[16:38] <nacc> zrneely: don't do that in the future (python is a core application). Can yuou remove the python3 pacakge?
[16:38] <de-facto> \9 i would be sure enough that id do it myself
[16:38] <de-facto> but i cant guarentee
[16:39] <\9> well, yeah, nothing is ever 100.0% guaranteed
[16:39] <zrneely> nacc: Yeah, I've learned my lesson... dpkg won't let me remove python3, since a few things depend on it (software-properties-common, onboard, gnome-orca)
[16:39] <Sagar> anyone
[16:40] <Sagar> i am in rescue mode
[16:40] <Sagar> ls: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:40] <de-facto> LostSoul just be carefull changing just the type/id, nothing else
[16:40] <\9> Sagar: sounds like your system is a little bit screwed up
[16:41] <Sagar> i accidently removed libpcre3
[16:41] <zrneely> Sagar: you might have to boot from a live cd and fix it that way, if you can't even run the coreutils
[16:41] <DArqueBishop> Sagar: your system is toast. Boot from a live CD, back up your data, then wipe and reload.
[16:41] <\9> nonono
[16:41] <swent482> Hello, I installed VeraCrypt on Xubuntu 14.04 with this guide and it appeared to install and is in the app menu...but nothing happens when I try to launch it http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/encrypt-data-in-linux-with-veracrypt-an-alternative-to-truecrypt Any ideas?
[16:41] <LostSoul> /dev/sdb1        2048<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER> 931,5G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[16:41] <LostSoul> :)
[16:41] <LostSoul> Thank you, checking on Windows now
[16:42] <Sagar> there is no way i can install libpcre3 without loosing my data in rescue mode?
[16:42] <Sagar> root@rescue:~# echo /var/cache/apt/archives/libpcre3*
[16:42] <Sagar> > /var/cache/apt/archives/libpcre3_2%3a8.38-3.1_amd64.deb
[16:42] <Sagar> i have this
[16:42] <de-facto> LostSoul jup looks good
[16:43] <LostSoul> Working on Windows now, thanks de-facto!
[16:43] <\9> Sagar: you could try extract the archive, and emplace the libpcre3.so file from that
[16:43] <DArqueBishop> Sagar, what happens when you try to run "apt-get install libpcre3"?
[16:43] <zrneely> nacc: apt-get -f install tells me that "pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages."
[16:44] <ceibal> lorena siri
[16:44] <\9> DArqueBishop: it probably won't do anything because the package is still there
[16:44] <\9> Sagar: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install libpcre3
[16:45] <nacc> zrneely: are you able to install 'python' (rather than python3) ?
[16:45] <\9> Sagar: if that doesn't work, try boot from a live session, mount the file system and emplace the libpcre3.so.3 file manually
[16:45] <\9> Sagar: if that still doesn't work it's time to consider a reinstall
[16:46] <zrneely> nacc: What do you mean? With apt? Any package installation tells me to run apt-get -f install, which fails with the message I pasted above
[16:46] <Sagar> E: Can not write log (Is /dev/pts mounted?) - posix_openpt (2: No such file or directory)
[16:47] <Sagar> same error on each of the command
[16:47] <\9> hm
[16:47] <Sagar> > /usr/bin/dpkg: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:47] <\9> ok so dpkg is not going to work then
[16:47] <lyze> Would I be able to install multiple desktop environments w/o config conflicts and so on?
[16:48] <Sagar> nor wget or anything
[16:48] <Sagar> everything depends upon libpcre3
[16:49] <\9> Sagar: okay, try use a live cd then. mount your file system and emplace the libpcre.so.3 file
[16:50] <nacc> zrneely: not sure, sorry -- apt is quite unhappy with you :/ maybe someone else can help
[16:50] <Sagar> how to do that in rescue mode?
[16:50] <DArqueBishop> Sagar: you don't. You need to boot using a live CD.
[16:50] <\9> use whatever you used to install ubuntu
[16:50] <\9> CD, USB, etc
[16:51] <zrneely> nacc: no problem, thanks for your help! I mostly just don't want to reinstall completely, since backups/restores are slow.
[16:51] <Sagar> its a ubuntu server
[16:51] <Sagar> purchased from an online provider
[16:51] <\9> then you will have to notify your provider of the issue
[16:51] <\9> you are not able to fix it yourself
[16:52] <Sagar> they said they dont provide s/w support
[16:52] <\9> that's a pretty garbage provider then
[16:52] <\9> they don't provide any software support even in emergencies?
[16:53] <Sagar> nope
[16:53] <camroncade> does anyone have experience with xsessions that can chat with me about a problem I'm working on?
[16:53] <\9> alright hmm
[16:53] <DArqueBishop> Sagar: I seriously hope your data wasn't important or that it was backed up off the server.
[16:53] <\9> you're in quite the predicament, yeah
[16:54] <Sagar> can't we install libpcre3 in rescure mode
[16:54] <DArqueBishop> Sagar: you already proved you can't.
[16:54] <Sagar> and add the so file in mount drive
[16:54] <Sagar> ?
[16:54] <\9> need to somehow get it to the system
[16:54] <Waggie> \9, couldn't he just manually extract from a deb and place the file in rescue mode?
[16:54] <\9> Waggie: dpkg doesn't work
[16:55] <nacc> Waggie: using what tool?
[16:55] <Waggie> Well, on another system, extract the deb using archive roller or similar.
[16:55] <\9> he said that this is a server provided by an online provider
[16:55] <Sagar> waggie how?
[16:55] <nacc> Sagar: can you scp to the server in question?
[16:56] <tgm4883> Waggie: he can't ssh to the box is my understanding
[16:56] <sfdebug> hi, i'm using ubuntu 14.04 with DHCP configuration, i want to subscribe the DNS servers i'm using, does anyone know how?
[16:56] <Sagar> now i am in ssh
[16:56] <Sagar> in rescue mode
[16:56] <Sagar> ubuntu 16
[16:56] <\9> and can you establish a new ssh connection?
[16:56] <tgm4883> Sagar: if you can SSh in, then just SCP the file over
[16:56] <Sagar> i have /var/cache/apt/archives/libpcre3_2%3a8.38-3.1_amd64.deb still lying
[16:56] <\9> (DON'T CUT YOUR CURRENT ONE)
[16:56] <Sagar> scp is also not working
[16:56] <\9> damn
[16:56] <Waggie> So, on my desktop system (which runs Ubuntu 14.04) I can right-click a .deb file, and see the contents of it.
[16:56] <\9> Waggie: this is not a desktop!
[16:56] <nacc> Sagar: are you sure you're ssh'd in and not on a remote console?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> sfdebug  sudo -e /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[16:57] <\9> nacc: a ssh connection survives even an sshd restart
[16:57] <tgm4883> I think he's on a remote console
[16:57] <DArqueBishop> Waggie: he can't even run a directory listing.
[16:57] <Sagar> WinSCP Works :D
[16:57] <Sagar> i am on ftp
[16:57] <Sagar> what can i do?
[16:57] <\9> ah
[16:57] <tgm4883> \9: however an SSH session doesn't survive a reboot into rescue mode
[16:57] <nacc> \9: right, but if he's at 'rescue mode' i don't know how ssh is running :)
[16:57] <\9> ah hm
[16:57] <nacc> but if he's able to ftp in, then maybe he can 'put' the rigth file remotely
[16:58] <nacc> not sure
[16:58] <de-facto> Sagar maybe you could try to unpack that deb and copy the files to the appropriate locations manually, then reinstall that deb when you get dpkg working?
[16:58] <sfdebug> MonkeyDust, i tried it already...
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> sfdebug  did you add nameserver x.x.x.x
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> sfdebug  if you did, then update with    sudo resolvconf -u
[16:59] <Sagar> anyone of you can just send me the .so files and i can directly upload it?
[16:59] <Sagar> that will be really helpful
[16:59] <\9> Sagar: do you have the libpcre.so.3.13.2 file?
[16:59] <Sagar> no
[16:59] <\9> Sagar: libpcre.so.3 appears to be a symlink
[16:59] <\9> okay i can upload it
[16:59] <sfdebug> MonkeyDust, let me try
[16:59] <de-facto> Sagar which exact version do you need?
[17:00] <Sagar> \9 please that will help
[17:00] <Sagar> de-facto
[17:00] <Sagar> i am on ubuntu 16.04
[17:00] <Sagar> what could be best?
[17:00] <de-facto> amd64?
[17:00] <\9> Sagar: https://tsp.kapsi.fi/libpcre.so.3.13.2 there you go
[17:00] <sfdebug> MonkeyDust, didn't work..
[17:01] <agent44_> guys i am new to ubuntu i have installed screenfetch package but how ever i dont know how to run it( iv used "screenfetch" in terminal) nothing happen,, any one can help me out???( im on)
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> agent44_  what do you want to do
[17:01] <camroncade> Hey, I'm trying to create an xsession that curl's a url...if it returns true it boots into a chrome kiosk mode, if it returns false it boots normally. I'm having trouble getting 16.04 to start normally by calling gnome-session from a bash script....any ideas?
[17:02] <nacc> agent44_: maybe look at `man screenfetch` to see what options it accepts, etc.
[17:02] <Sagar> \9: downloaded, where and how do i place it?
[17:02] <\9> Sagar: it appears to live in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[17:02] <de-facto> \9 isnt it more like that one here? http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libpcre3/download
[17:03] <\9> de-facto: that's where i pulled it from
[17:04] <\9> Sagar: so try use winscp to move it to the server, and then use mv to put it in place
[17:04] <\9> Sagar: then use: ln -s libpcre.so.3.13.1 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3
[17:04] <\9> Sagar: to create the symbolic link, if it doesn't exist
[17:05] <Sagar> ln: failed to create symbolic link '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3': File exists
[17:05] <\9> then it's already there
[17:05] <agent44_> it is showing something like  "user command" SCREENFETCH(1) etc.....
[17:05] <de-facto> ok yup looks like the correct one (together with libpcreposix.so.3.13.2)
[17:05] <\9> Sagar: it should work now. try use some programs
[17:06] <Sagar> ls: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:06] <Sagar> i think i have to remove the old one
[17:06] <Sagar> how do i do that?
[17:06] <\9> hmm wait
[17:06] <\9> use ls -lh /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[17:06] <\9> what does it say about the libpcre files?
[17:06] <Sagar> i can see libpcre.so.3.13.1 (438K) and libpcre.so.3 (1K) inside lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[17:06] <\9> okay, but what is libpcre.so.3? where does it point?
[17:07] <Sagar> i dont know
[17:07] <Sagar> \9 tell me remove the old symlink and create new one
[17:07] <\9> let's not be rash
[17:07] <swent482> I installed VeraCrypt on Xubuntu 14.04 with this guide and it appeared to install and is in the app menu...but nothing happens when I try to launch it http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/encrypt-data-in-linux-with-veracrypt-an-alternative-to-truecrypt Any ideas?
[17:07] <\9> the ls -lh command should reveal the nature of libpcre.so.3
[17:07] <Sagar> ls: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:08] <\9> but you just said you saw it there
[17:08] <\9> oh wait the ls doesn't work
[17:08] <lyze> Would I be able to install multiple desktop environments w/o config conflicts and so on?
[17:08] <Sagar> via WinSCP i can see it libpcre.so.3.13.1
[17:08] <\9> okay then let's just recreate it
[17:08] <Hanumaan> installing python3 getting encodings error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16656961/  how to resolve?
[17:08] <Sagar> \9: http://prntscr.com/b7xdh6
[17:08] <\9> use the same ln command, but use ln -sf instead of ln -s
[17:09] <\9> hm
[17:09] <\9> it looks fine then
[17:09] <nacc> agent44_: right, that's a man-page
[17:09] <nacc> agent44_: it tells you how to use a command ('manual page')
[17:09] <k1l> Hanumaan: do you use a foreign encoding?
[17:10] <Sagar> so we need to reboot?
[17:10] <Sagar> or something?
[17:10] <\9> if you reboot it probably won't come back up again
[17:10] <Sagar> what is wrong then?
[17:10] <ducasse> Sagar: use 'echo' instead of 'ls'
[17:10] <Waggie> swent482, call it from a command line with gksudo
[17:10] <\9> ducasse: and what on earth would that help?
[17:11] <k1l> Hanumaan: and did you change stuff with python manually?
[17:11] <swent482> waggie how do I do that?
[17:11] <Sagar> ducasse: echo?
[17:11] <ducasse> \9: if 'ls' doesn't work, try 'echo *'.
[17:11] <Sagar> echo works fine
[17:11] <agent44_> i am new so it bit weird for me.. can i get the usual one ?? i mean i was using elementary before and screenfetch was working great no need of man screenfetch there?? sorry for the stupidity
[17:11] <Hanumaan> k1l, no I did not changed anything manually ..
[17:11] <\9> Sagar: can you run stat?
[17:11] <Waggie> swent482, open the Unity menu, type 'Terminal' and click on the icon for Terminal
[17:11] <\9> or does that also complain about libpcre?
[17:11] <zteam> Hi!
[17:12] <k1l> Hanumaan: or installed some 3rd party stuff?
[17:12] <swent482> I meant what command to type exactly sorry...I have terminal open
[17:12] <Waggie> swent482, actually, skip the 'gksudo' part.
[17:12] <agent44_>  got it mannnnnnn .. thankssssss
[17:12] <Waggie> swent482, just type 'veracrypt' at the command prompt.
[17:12] <Sagar> stat: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:12] <Sagar> echo * works fine
[17:13] <swent482> waggie: /usr/bin/veracrypt: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[17:13] <Hanumaan> k1l, tried with some rdkit packages .. which uses python .. but just tried to install .. is there a way just clean all the python stuff and reinstall ..
[17:13] <\9> and libpcre.so.3.13.1 exists in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/?
[17:13] <Waggie> swent482, where did you ge the veracrypt binaries from?
[17:13] <k1l> Hanumaan: the problem is, that most stuff uses python itself
[17:13] <swent482> from their site...verified them as well
[17:14] <agent44_> id i use ./ screenfetch-dev then it works fine
[17:14] <Sagar> http://prntscr.com/b7xgcx
[17:14] <MIJ> hi
[17:14] <MIJ> i need some directions to find someone
[17:14] <Hanumaan> k1l, I have purged all these packages in the process of removing buggy python3 http://paste.ubuntu.com/16660360/  .. and tried to re install but still it gives the error .. so only reinstallation of OS is the solution?
[17:14] <Waggie> swent482, you downloaded "VeraCrypt Linux Setup 1.17" from their website?
[17:14] <\9> Sagar: i don't see libpcre.3.13.1 in that
[17:15] <swent482> yes
[17:15] <zetas_> 123
[17:15] <\9> Sagar: where did you place it?
[17:15] <Thinker_> help me guys. Banshee doesnot play aac or opus audio files. But it plays mp3 files. I have checked that libopus and aac codecs are installed. What to do now
[17:15] <agent44_> if i use ./screenfetch -dev it works fine can i change the command into "screenfetch"???
[17:15] <Waggie> swent482, and which of the contained executables did you run?
[17:15] <Sagar> but i can see that via WinSCP \9
[17:15] <Waggie> (inside "veracrypt-1.17-setup.tar.bz2"?)
[17:15] <swent482> veracrypt-1.17-setup.tar.bz2 and I used the gui x86
[17:16] <k1l> Hanumaan: maybe the guys in #python know about that issue. i have never seen that on an ubuntu system
[17:16] <Waggie> swent482, are you actually running a 32-bit OS?
[17:16] <swent482> yes
[17:16] <swent482> its a very old toshiba with Xubuntu 14.04
[17:16] <Waggie> Ah. Hmm..
[17:16] <Sagar> \9: http://prntscr.com/b7xhh3
[17:16] <k1l> Thinker_: libopus0 opus-tools  is installed?
[17:17] <\9> hmm
[17:17] <\9> how's this possible
[17:17] <swent482> the guide I linked seemed the most legit...several advised PPAs etc and I wanted to avoid those. I checked GPG sigs etc
[17:17] <Waggie> swent482, what do you get if you run 'file /usr/bin/veracrypt' ?
[17:17] <swent482> not sure what I might have done wrong but it was likely me
[17:18] <Waggie> swent482, mine reports "/usr/bin/veracrypt: ELF 64-bit LSB  executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped" - which will be slightly different, as I'm running 64-bit.
[17:18] <swent482> "/usr/bin/veracrypt: ELF 64-bit LSB  executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped"
[17:19] <Thinker_> k1l,  checking, plz give me a minute
[17:19] <swent482> since I am on a 32bit is that the issue? did i grab the wrong one somehow?
[17:19] <MIJ> where can i find the author for ALSA development
[17:19] <Waggie> swent482, well, you didn't run the 32-bit setup that was in that bz2, you ran the 64-bit setup.
[17:19] <k1l> swent482: why are you on 32bit?
[17:19] <Sagar> \9: what could be wrong?
[17:19] <Sagar> files lies there
[17:19] <Waggie> k1l, he has an old laptop.
[17:20] <Waggie> swent482, make sure you run 'veracrypt-1.17-setup-gui-x86' from that bz2 file.
[17:20] <\9> Sagar: I don't know. the file should be there
[17:20] <swent482> crap...i knew it was me being an idot...how do I remove the 64bit version and start over the right way?
[17:20] <Thinker_> k1l,  libopus0 installed, opus-tools not installed
[17:20] <swent482> kll: I am using a 10yo toshiba with 32bit processor
[17:20] <k1l> swent482: are you sure its 32bit only?
[17:20] <de-facto> Sagar it has /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3  -> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3.13.2 (~ 450kB) ) then it has /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so.3 -> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so.3.13.2 (~ 10kB)
[17:20] <swent482> well I think so...how would I check?
[17:21] <Sagar> anything like dpkg which doesn't require libpcre3
[17:21] <Sagar> so that we can install deb package?
[17:21] <k1l> swent482: "lspcu | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:21] <camroncade> is there a way to make the unity toolbar not display on bootup? I have it set to auto hide but as soon as a user logs in it is on the screen for a second before it slides out of view, and I'm trying to make it not show at all
[17:21] <Waggie> swent482, not sure, but I would imagine you could install the x32 version over the x64 version..
[17:21] <Sagar> didn't checked libpcreposix.so.3.13.2
[17:21] <DArqueBishop> Stupid question.
[17:21] <Sagar> de-facto: no file libpcreposix.so.3.13.2
[17:21] <DArqueBishop> Sagar: what happens if you run "ldconfig"?
[17:21] <Sagar> nor libpcreposix.so.3
[17:22] <DArqueBishop> Never mind.
[17:22] <swent482> kll: No command 'lspcu' found, did you mean:  Command 'lscpu' from package 'util-linux' (main)  Command 'lspci' from package 'pciutils' (main) lspcu: command not found Use netcat.
[17:22] <Sagar> DarqueBIshop: it works shows nothing
[17:22] <de-facto> Sagar the exact md5sums would be 2c81decd656a3c3843e47fb5ccf71065  libpcre3_8.38-3.1_amd64.deb:  66cae850e791d89892cb8b71d07ab39c  libpcreposix.so.3.13.2 and 020071cb8fcff2b7eab8e1beaf65058b  libpcre.so.3.13.2
[17:22] <Sagar> root@rescue:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# ldconfig | root@rescue:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu#
[17:22] <k1l> swent482: "lscpu | nc termbin.com 9999"  <<< sorry had a typo
[17:22] <swent482> waggie: is there a terminal command to purge it all though? sorry for the noob ignorance
[17:22] <Thinker_> k1l,  i have installed opus-tools but still cant play
[17:22] <Sagar> de-facto: no file like  libpcreposix at all
[17:22] <DArqueBishop> Sagar: does ls still not work?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> swent482  what's the outout of    sudo dmidecode --type 4 | tail -2
[17:22]  * DArqueBishop is grasping at straws.
[17:22] <Sagar> nope
[17:23] <ducasse> Sagar: can't you just upload the file as both libpcre3.so.3 and libpcre.so.3.13.2? it doesn't need to be a symlink.
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> output*
[17:23] <Sagar> ducasse: i have already uploaded ibpcre.so.3.13.2
[17:23] <Sagar> libpcre.so.3.13.2
[17:23] <Waggie> swent482, Googling gives me: "To uninstall VeraCrypt on Linux, you have to run the following command as root: veracrypt-uninstall.sh"
[17:23] <Sagar> how do i remove symlink?
[17:23] <swent482> kll: http://termbin.com/d190
[17:23] <Tegu> unlink /your/symlink/here
[17:24] <swent482> waggie: thanks will give that a try
[17:24] <swent482> MonkeyDust: 	Part Number: Not Specified
[17:24] <de-facto> Sagar the smaller file is here if you like: http://en.file-upload.net/download-11609588/libpcreposix.so.3.13.2.html
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> swent482  nvm, lscpu shows it also
[17:24] <swent482> waggie: to run as root I just put sudo before the command yea?
[17:25] <Sagar> should i unlink the symlink
[17:25] <Waggie> swent482, yup
[17:25] <Sagar> then rename the libpcre.3.13.2 and change it to libpcre.so.3
[17:26] <swent482> waggie it instantly said "veracrypt uninstalled"...normally there is some activity...could it have actually uninstalled that fast and without output?
[17:26] <Waggie> swent482, very possible.
[17:26] <Waggie> swent482, try installing the x86 version now.
[17:26] <swent482> waggie: thanks..I will try to do it right this time you guys have all been very helpful
[17:27] <Waggie> swent482, glad to help! :)
[17:27] <SemiNus> Hello all :)
[17:27] <SemiNus> I am in trouble with my brand new 16.04 installation
[17:28] <cosmicfires> what replaces gnome-disks in 16.04?
[17:28] <Sagar> \9? de-facto? ducasse?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> SemiNus  let's hear it, in one line
[17:28] <SemiNus> chromium-browser causes a vast amount of my CPU load.
[17:28] <SemiNus> http://pastie.org/pastes/10850717/text?key=iyety42cy26i5abiy6tpbq
[17:29] <Sagar> as i see /usr/bin/dpkg: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:29] <Sagar> shouln't file be placed in /sur/bin/dpkg
[17:29] <ducasse> Sagar: remove the symlink, then either upload the file again with the name you need or link it.
[17:29] <Sagar> well not
[17:29] <SemiNus> the problem especially seems to occur when I use my mouse wheel in order to scroll down a browser window. Scrolling happens very "jumpy" (I guess that word does not exist, huh?) and it slows down the whole system
[17:29] <Sagar> ducasse: uploaded
[17:30] <k1l> SemiNus: well. dont use that much chromium tabs and flash content?
[17:30] <SemiNus> oh great... the problem is the same in firefox... I just opened firefox, wanted to look in dict.cc for the translation of "ruckelig" (a german word) and then "top" shows me a usage of 79% for firefox
[17:30] <SemiNus> k1l, no flash content
[17:30] <Sagar> ducasse: i did, i think winscp is not working fine
[17:31] <reisio> SemiNus: what do you care what percentage it uses?
[17:31] <k1l> SemiNus: actually you could look if its getting better with adblock or such.
[17:31] <SemiNus>  2869 user      20   0 1106648<PHONE_NUMBER>84 R 103,0  2,3   1:43.59 firefox
[17:31] <SemiNus> huh? 103% CPU load for firefox now
[17:31] <SemiNus> that is weird
[17:31] <ducasse> Sagar: does dpkg work now?
[17:31] <Sagar> nope
[17:31] <anom> Hai
[17:31] <Sagar> the issue is
[17:31] <Sagar> in winscp i can see
[17:31] <SemiNus> k1l, well, it's hard to work on a PC when it becomes totally slow because of a browser
[17:31] <swent482> waggie: kll: monkeydust: thanks to all...it worked this time. I had c&p the install command with x64 in it and failed to change
[17:32] <anom> If I have two windows open, is there a shortcut to switch window?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> anom  ctrl tab
[17:32] <Sagar> http://prntscr.com/b7xp70
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> anom  alt tab rather
[17:32] <Sagar> wait i am on recovery
[17:32] <Sagar> ghrr
[17:32] <lyze> can I use a external hard drive as a live cd "usb stick"?
[17:32] <Sagar> i should be /mnt/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu not /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[17:33] <Waggie> swent482, glad its' working!
[17:33] <Hanumaan> k1l, then if I try to install some packages I get unmet dependencies http://paste.ubuntu.com/16661006/ .. #python said those previous ones are not errors what could be solution for this dependency problem?
[17:33] <anom> alt tab brings up like a dialog. Is there anyway to do it without that thing showing up?
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> anom  alt esc
[17:34] <anom> that doesn't appear to work either lol
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> anom  both at the same time... it's the same as in Main Stream OS
[17:35] <Sagar> worked :D
[17:35] <Sagar> \9? de-facto? ducasse? :D worked
[17:35] <ducasse> !yay | Sagar
[17:36] <Sagar> The issue was we were looking into /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu while on recovery mode it was /mnt/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[17:36] <Sagar> !thanks
[17:37] <Sagar> !thanks | \9 | de-facto | ducasse?
[17:37] <de-facto> glad you got it working :)
[17:37] <ducasse> Sagar: so dpkg is working normally now?
[17:38] <Sagar> yes :)
[17:38] <ducasse> Sagar: well, then, you must have learned a lot today ;)
[17:38] <Sagar> alot :D
[17:39] <ducasse> Sagar: next time, for a *real* challenge, remove /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 ;)
[17:39] <de-facto> lool
[17:40] <Sagar> lol
[17:40] <Sagar> :v
[17:40] <Sagar> never
[17:41] <DArqueBishop> Sagar: again, if anything on that box is important to you, NOW is the time to start planning scheduled offsite backups.
[17:41] <DArqueBishop> You got INCREDIBLY lucky.
[17:42] <Sagar> and thanks you all :D
[17:43] <zteam> Hanumaan, If I were you I would split that long apt-get install command in two parts, sometimes it may be easier for apt-get if you ask it not to do everything at once, that's my experience at least
[17:44] <\9> Sagar: ah, cool to know it worked
[17:45] <Hanumaan> zteam, thats good will try that way ..
[17:45] <Hanumaan> zteam, idea*
[17:46] <Sagar> :)
[17:47] <zteam> Hanumaan, also if you do use somethird party repositories you might need to disable them :-)
[17:47] <Hanumaan> zteam, yes I have disabled already ..
[17:48] <zteam> Hanumaan, okey, then it should hopefully work :p
[17:51] <ducasse> Sagar: if you want good backup software, i can recommend attic.
[17:55] <reisio> why would you need to init a backup location
[17:55] <reisio> overengineered
[17:56] <ducasse> reisio: it works really well, though, and that's mainly all i care about.
[17:57] <reisio> I prefer things to work perfectly :p
[17:57] <ducasse> reisio: it actually does, for my use cases.
[17:57] <reisio> sure sure :D
[18:01] <lok> anyone has used "terminal emulator" on android?
[18:02] <k1l> lok: i guess #android is the better place to ask that
[18:02] <lok> ok k1l
[18:06] <camroncade> morning
[18:07] <MIJ> .
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> camroncade  evening
[18:10] <Powerless> how do i install that fast search that kubunto has on my ubuntu?
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Powerless  you mean Dash?
[18:12] <Powerless> MonkeyDust, I dont know the name. its that search that I only neet to start typing on my desktop and it will start a search
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> Powerless  found it: try     GnomeDo
[18:19] <de-facto> i thought every DE has its own search index, Dash, Gnome, KDE and so on... not sure if its a good idea to just try to install alien ones
[18:19] <Powerless> MonkeyDust, will try it thanks
[18:19] <de-facto> Powerless if you are on unity try installing appropriate lenses or what those are called
[18:20] <k1l> well, the gnome and unity searches use zeitgeist in the background
[18:21] <de-facto> i thought unity uses unity-lens-*  for the frontend
[18:23] <de-facto> k1l and i read KDE used strigi or baloo or something like that as backend instead, not sure though
[18:23] <lok> what is "how to setup Ubuntu chroot in android"?
[18:24] <k1l> lok: that is nothing for this channel. ask the app maker for support of that
[18:26] <ruind> my apt cache is 6GB in size... is that normal?
[18:26] <basar> türk var mı
[18:27] <basar> türk
[18:27] <nacc> !tr | basar
[18:27] <de-facto> ruind i guess it depends on how much you used it
[18:28] <ruind> do I need that much to do an 'apt-cache search' ?
[18:28] <k1l> ruind: "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[18:28] <nacc> ruind: no, you probably have older cached data around, run the command that k1l suggests to clean it up
[18:29] <ruind> ah yup.... that freed up about 5G
[18:29] <ruind> thanks k1l
[18:29] <yotka> Hello, I'm looking for help troubleshooting wireless problems (I asked here yesterday, too). My problem is that I don't have an internet connection although connected to wireless (see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765578)
[18:35] <ultrixx> hi! when i boot 16.04 i get software crashes with my asus notebook. i think it is a bluetooth subsystem that makes problems
[18:35] <ultrixx> anyone here with the same issues?
[18:36] <Shibe> guys help
[18:36] <Shibe> I installed the HWE but now if I have two windows open that use opengl, one of them stops
[18:36] <Shibe> and if I switch to nvidia mode and start Xorg, I get a black screen (screen off
[18:43] <Powerless> the name i was looking for is krunner :)
[18:44] <k1l> Powerless: krunner is not a unity thing.
[18:44] <django_1> is kubuntu faster than ubuntu?
[18:44] <k1l> django_1: no
[18:44] <Powerless> k1l, do we have a similar one for ubuntu?
[18:44] <django_1> k1l, whats the difference
[18:45] <xangua> Powerless: synapse
[18:45] <k1l> django_1: if you want a faster one you might want to look at Xubuntu or even Lubuntu
[18:45] <django_1> k1l, how different are x and l ubuntu?
[18:45] <k1l> django_1: its a differen desktop environment. like two different carmakers. they both build cars, but different ones
[18:45] <Powerless> xangua, synapse I have to open a program. this krunner all you have to is type and it will search
[18:46] <k1l> django_1: unity vs kde5 vs xfce vs lxde.
[18:46] <django_1> k1l, im running a vbox with 2gb ram
[18:46] <django_1> i want the fastest
[18:46] <dax> command-line
[18:46] <k1l> django_1: lubuntu
[18:46] <django_1> k1l, for this book: https://www.nostarch.com/hacking2.htm
[18:51] <shudon> hi all :) i've added my user to dialout group but still can't "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600" without screen terminating immediately. "groups" says i am in dialout group. ls -l says /dev/ttyUSB0 has crw-rw---- perms and root:dialout owner
[18:52] <nacc> shudon: not sure what you think that command should do? screen takes as arguments a command
[18:52] <shudon> nacc: it can also connect to a tty
[18:52] <nacc> shudon: you need to tell it to do that with flags, iirc?
[18:52] <shudon> idk, nacc. with root user, i can do this with same args
[18:53] <akik> shudon: did you re-login after adding yourself to dialout group?
[18:53] <nacc> shudon: hrm, i'd check what akik said, then
[18:53] <shudon> akik: yes, groups(1) says i am dialout group
[18:53] <nacc> shudon: that's not the same thing
[18:53] <nacc> shudon: did you logout and log back in?
[18:53] <nacc> shudon: you can be in a group and that membership not having taken effect yet
[18:53] <shudon> nacc: i thought if i run groups with no args, it only shows groups i actually have, as opposed to ones i will get on login
[18:54] <nacc> shudon: no args just prints current process's groups, iirc
[18:54] <shudon> right
[18:54] <nacc> shudon: which does not mean your membership has been updated...
[18:54]  * shudon sighs
[18:54]  * EriC^^ double sighs
[18:55]  * nacc shrugs
[19:01] <Sagar> how much a 32GB server running apache2 and php7.0-fpm is cable of handling concurrent users?
[19:02] <plytro> wrong place
[19:02] <Sagar> where should i go then?
[19:02] <Sagar> >/var/www?
[19:05] <Lope> how do you restart networking on systemd ubuntu?
[19:07] <OerHeks> Lope, systemctl restart name.service, but for now on 16.04 you still can use: service networking restart
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> Lope  try   sudo service networking restart
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  was faster
[19:10] <plytro> Sagar: a php channel or an apache channel
[19:14] <feneco> hi, gnome-shell is no launching the program from a certain .desktop file, it opens in gedit instead, but double click the .desktop file from nautilus, launches the program. any ideas? (ubuntu gnome 16.04)
[19:18] <leoknudsen> hi @everyone: anyone that knows how i can config a correct mysql database connection for a laravel application on CircleCI Ubuntu 14.04 machine?
[19:27] <ubuntu498> hello folk
[19:28] <Queenslayer> Hallo
[19:28] <ubuntu498> I have taken an hard drive from an intel MacBook and put it inside an intel ASUS laptop... Lubuntu is working but there is no wireless showing
[19:29] <ubuntu498> Can u help me please since I have read several posts and thought hundreds of solutions trobuleshooting etc...
[19:29] <Queenslayer> ubuntu498, you can extract it from a live CD
[19:30] <ubuntu498> Sorry Queenslayer I am not sure I am following your advice, would you mind to expand it a little bit?
[19:30] <Queenslayer> ubuntu498, you shouldn't expect all the drivers to work anyway
[19:30] <nacc> ubuntu498: does the intel laptop's wireless work from a liveCD/USB?
[19:30] <Queenslayer> ubuntu498, you want wifi drivers, yes?
[19:31] <ubuntu498> I still do not understand, please have patience
[19:31] <Queenslayer> ubuntu498, no worries
[19:31] <_44trent3> hey, is it normal that after I dualboot windows and ubuntu, the windows partition isn't active?
[19:31] <Queenslayer> You probably need driver packages to make the wifi work
[19:31] <ubuntu498> maybe I have not expressed fully myself
[19:31] <Queenslayer> Yes _44trent3
[19:32] <ubuntu498> Queenslayer: I have tried hundred of things
[19:32] <Queenslayer> _44trent3, you mean to ask why GRUB2 comes on in place of windows boot manager?
[19:32] <ubuntu498> as I said nothing is working
[19:32] <_44trent3> no, i mean my windows partition isn't active
[19:32] <ubuntu498> I don't know where the problem lies
[19:32] <_44trent3> i'm trying to restore the windows bootloader from the windows 7 repair disk
[19:32] <nacc> ubuntu498: what wireless device? what version of windows?
[19:32] <Queenslayer> ubuntu498, you said lubuntu is working?
[19:33] <nacc> ubuntu498: err, what version of ubuntu :)
[19:33] <_44trent3> but i was just wondering if it's normal that my windows partition isn't marked as active
[19:33] <_44trent3> after the dualboot
[19:33] <ubuntu498> Queenslayer: yes Lubuntu is working perfectly
[19:33] <_44trent3> i can go somewhere else to figure out the windows MBR problem, i just wanted to know if ubuntu might've had something to do with it
[19:33] <ubuntu498> two things only
[19:33] <Queenslayer> _44trent3, are you using it via UEFI?
[19:33] <ubuntu498> first one the wireless
[19:33] <_44trent3> no, i'm using it via mbr
[19:33] <Queenslayer> ubuntu498, find the wireless card
[19:33] <_44trent3> i think
[19:33] <ubuntu498> done it Queenslayer
[19:33] <Queenslayer> And get propietary drivers for it
[19:34] <ubuntu498> lspci gives  Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[19:34] <_44trent3> guess i could try imaging the windows iso again on the thumb drive and see if that fixes it...
[19:34] <nacc> Queenslayer: why would you assume they need proprietary drivers?
[19:34] <Queenslayer> _44trent3, can you boot into windows at all?
[19:34] <_44trent3> yeah, but I want to get rid of grub and remove the ubuntu partition
[19:34] <ubuntu498> the drivers that I could find where only given in *.exe
[19:34] <subsume> I am attempting to use memcached in 16.04 but it keeps crashing even though it has plenty of memory. Some googling tells me that sometimes this happens when not run with the -d command, however, the 16.04 init script seems to be stripping this from the daemon as it doesn't show up in top
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu498  in a terminal, type   nmtui ... then Activate
[19:34] <_44trent3> and whenever i use the repair option in my windows 7 usb, it doesn't detect windows 7
[19:35] <_44trent3> and for some reason, my ubuntu partition is the one with a bootable flag...
[19:35] <_44trent3> all the other ones don't have it
[19:35] <Queenslayer> nacc, just a suggestion as it worked on mine
[19:35] <ubuntu498> Hi MonkeyDust  i don't have that command
[19:35] <ubuntu498> and it doesn't allow me to install it
[19:35] <nacc> Queenslayer: but that would highly depend on the card in question...
[19:35] <Queenslayer> nacc, true
[19:35] <_44trent3> there is a windows IRC channel i could ask, but that method is used to get rid of grub properly right?
[19:36] <Queenslayer> I think I presumed too much there
[19:36] <nacc> Queenslayer: i think the intel chipset should work fine with the stock kernel(s)
[19:36] <Queenslayer> nacc, one sec...
[19:36] <nacc> ubuntu498: do you have networking at all (wired, perhaps)
[19:36] <Queenslayer> nacc, you're right
[19:36] <ubuntu498> Thanks guy, I hope I can sort this...
[19:37] <Queenslayer> nacc, when I tried XUbuntu nothing was detected, but fine for stock Ubuntu
[19:37] <ubuntu498> I am typing from the laptop where the problem is...connected through dsl cable
[19:37] <subsume> Can someone tell me where to find a stock 16.04 init script?
[19:37] <ubuntu498> so ethernet is fine
[19:37] <nacc> Queenslayer: hrm, that's strange! interesting, though
[19:37] <Queenslayer> nacc, it is
[19:37] <nacc> ubuntu498: ok, can you pastebin `dmesg` output?
[19:37] <Queenslayer> I was quite surprised by it
[19:37] <ubuntu498> of course
[19:37] <subsume> Err can someone help me find a stock 16.04 memcached.conf file?
[19:37] <ubuntu498> give me a sec
[19:37] <nacc> ubuntu498: thanks
[19:40] <ubuntu498> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16664309/
[19:44] <nacc> ubuntu498: what version of ubuntu is this (`lsb_release -a` will say)
[19:45] <ubuntu498> 14.04 Trusty
[19:45] <ubuntu498> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[19:45] <sli1> subsume: You have the default file here: https://websetnet.com/memcached-cache-config-on-ubuntu/
[19:45] <nacc> ubuntu498: `uname -a` (feel free to pastebin)
[19:46] <ubuntu498> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16664428/
[19:47] <subsume> sli1: hmmm... im' not sure if i should be using memcached or libmemcached
[19:48] <nacc> ubuntu498: ugh, i thnk that's the utopic hwe stack (based upon the kernel version)
[19:48] <nacc> ubuntu498: would you be willing to use the later hwe stack, to test?
[19:48] <nacc> !hwe | ubuntu498
[19:48] <ubuntu498> i686 conflicting with x86_32?
[19:48] <nacc> ubuntu498: ?
[19:49] <ubuntu498> processor architecture maybe?
[19:49] <ubuntu498> I dunno, I have just noticed that
[19:49] <subsume> sli1: actually yeah, libmemcached is a client but i am talking about the server here, simply called memcached
[19:50] <ubuntu498> never mind nacc
[19:50] <nacc> ubuntu498: let's put that aside, becuase i'm not sure what you mean :)
[19:50] <nacc> ubuntu498: your CPU is recognized just fine
[19:50] <ubuntu498> quite right....
[19:50] <ubuntu498> that's true
[19:50] <nacc> ubuntu498: so i'm wondering if possibly you might need some of the hw support provided by the LTS hwe stacks
[19:50] <ioria> subsume, http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/memcached/filelist
[19:50] <nacc> ubuntu498: basically gives you access in trusty to the xenial kernel and X server
[19:51] <ioria>  !info linux-generic-lts-xenial trusty
[19:52] <nacc> ioria: thanks, was just about to search for it :)
[19:52] <ioria> nacc ok :)
[19:52] <nacc> ubuntu498: --^ that's the package you'd install, it will put a new kernel in (<IP_ADDRESS>.12) and that might have better support for your hardware
[19:52] <nacc> ubuntu498: that would be the easiest thing to test, i think
[19:53] <subsume> How can I find out why memcached seems to be crashing after many hours of use with plenty of memory?
[19:54] <subsume> the log is empty
[19:54] <nacc> subsume: is it being killed? (`dmesg` might say)
[19:55] <subsume> ah okay, yeah i guess it says out of memory
[19:56] <user2635> Hello Worlddd
[19:56] <nacc> subsume: right, so it probably oom'd
[19:56] <nacc> subsume: and the kernel killed it
[19:57] <ubuntu695> hello guys
[19:57] <nacc> subsume: well, not quite the right verbage/order, but you get the idea :)
[19:57] <ubuntu695> sorry, for some reasons something happened and I couldn't see any typing
[19:57] <ubuntu695> nacc, in the meantime I pasted the command into terminale
[19:58] <subsume> I don't think the init script for memcached notes are really accurate to how 16.04 is running it
[19:58] <subsume> there's a comment that says you can run one instance via # /etc/init.d/memcached start server1
[19:59] <subsume> but I do that and it doesn't start anything
[20:01] <nacc> ubuntu695: ok, so you're switching over to the xenial hwe stack?
[20:01] <ubuntu695> ehm
[20:02] <ubuntu695> I have copied and pasted this:  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily
[20:02] <nacc> ubuntu695: well, i would just go to xenial (rather than wily)
[20:03] <nacc> ubuntu695: same package names, but with xenial instead of wily in each string
[20:03] <ubuntu695> so, is that a bad thing?
[20:03] <nacc> ubuntu695: using wily? no, not necessarily
[20:03] <nacc> ubuntu695: *wily lts hwe
[20:03] <ubuntu695> now the system it is asking
[20:04] <ubuntu695> to reboot
[20:04] <nacc> ubuntu695: but if it doesn't work, then you might still need to test xenial
[20:04] <ubuntu695> so I will do that
[20:04] <nacc> ubuntu695: yep
[20:04] <ubuntu695> right, thank you nacc I will see you shortly
[20:06] <django_1> k1l, for lubuntu installation it says "software selection" do i chose a desktop environent
[20:07] <django_1> edubuntu, kubuntu etc
[20:08] <django_1> http://imgur.com/2q1e1Hc
[20:09] <borg> g
[20:12] <subsume> Can someone help me debug why the init script for memcached doesn't seem to do what it says it does http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/memcached/vivid/view/head:/scripts/memcached-init
[20:12] <subsume> I tried sudo /etc/init.d/memcached start server1 but it doesn't do anything idfferent than if you left server1 off
[20:13] <nacc> subsume: did you create a /etc/memcached_server1.conf ?
[20:13] <subsume> yes
[20:13] <subsume> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    1426 May 24 19:59 memcached_server1.conf
[20:13] <nacc> subsume: pastebin `bash -x /etc/init.d/memcached start server1` ?
[20:14] <subsume> nacc: where can i install pastebin from?
[20:14] <subsume> oh
[20:14] <subsume> its not a command
[20:14] <nacc> subsume: you can use pastebinit
[20:15] <subsume> nacc: should i just pastebinit my init script? i can't pipe that command
[20:15] <nacc> subsume: `bash -x /etc/init.d/memcached start server1 | pastebinit`
[20:15] <nacc> maybe with sudo
[20:16] <nacc> so it might be better to sudo the bash and redirect to a file
[20:16] <nacc> then cat the file to pastebinit
[20:17] <k1l> django_1: is that the minimal or netinstall? just choose "lubuntu desktop" if you want a lubuntu
[20:17] <subsume> nacc: weird http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665021/ it doesn't give that output when i just run that command
[20:17] <nacc> subsume: maybe add a redirect of stderr to stdout
[20:17] <subsume> it just says "Starting memcached (via systemctl): memcached.service." when i run that command
[20:17] <subsume> nacc: how do i do that
[20:18] <django_1> k1l, not sure, it mini.iso
[20:18] <django_1> 48mb
[20:18] <nacc> subsume: try: `bash -x /etc/init.d/memcached start server1 2>&1 | pastebinit
[20:20] <subsume> nacc: where is the missing '
[20:20] <nacc> subsume: err, sorry
[20:20] <nacc> `
[20:20] <nacc> at end
[20:20] <k1l> django_1: that is the netinstall. it got just the installer and will load all needed packages from the net.
[20:20] <django_1> ah crap
[20:21] <django_1> i didnt chose lubuntu
[20:21] <subsume> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665103/
[20:21] <subsume> doesn't look right but ok
[20:21] <subsume> that's just the init script
[20:21] <subsume> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/memcached/vivid/view/head:/scripts/memcached-init
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[20:21] <subsume> oh i guess there is more
[20:21] <ubuntu645> hello nacc
[20:22] <ubuntu645> nothing has changed
[20:22] <subsume> I have actually seen some mysterious nonsense with other processes with this "The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files" stuff
[20:22] <nacc> subsume: are you running vivid?
[20:22] <ubuntu645> What's more I received weird messages form the system, about errors and etc..
[20:22] <subsume> nacc: no xenial but i forgot the sudo command
[20:23] <nacc> subsume: so why did you point me at the vivid memcached init script?
[20:23] <subsume> nacc: when sudo isn't used that error crops up
[20:23] <subsume> sorry, that was the only one i could find
[20:23] <subsume> it doesn't look different
[20:24] <ubuntu645> nacc: what should I do now?
[20:24] <subsume> it doesn't look different
[20:24] <subsume> sorry, that was the only one i could find
[20:24] <subsume> nacc: when sudo isn't used that error crops up
[20:24] <nacc> subsume: it is quite clearly different...
[20:24] <nacc> subsume: in that the bash -x output doesn't match the file on launchpad
[20:24] <nacc> subsume: can you pastebin your /etc/init.d/memcached ?
[20:24] <subsume> ah sorry
[20:25] <nacc> subsume: ah sorry, yes, i'm assuming you knew to run under sudo, as you're launching an inits cript
[20:25] <subsume> yep will repaste
[20:25] <nacc> ubuntu645: can you pastebin `dmesg` output?
[20:25] <ubuntu645> nacc, yep
[20:26] <subsume> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665206/
[20:26] <subsume> init script http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665223/
[20:27] <ubuntu645> nacc:
[20:27] <ubuntu645> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665238/
[20:28] <davidmichaelkarr> I'm seeing an odd symptom with my mouse cursor.  I'm running Ubuntu in a VM, and when I try to resize a window, I have to move the cursor perhaps 1/4 inch past the bottom right corner for it to register that it's on the bottom right corner.  I realized this is why I've had trouble with other widgets in the interface.  The CentOS host that I'm running this
[20:28] <davidmichaelkarr> from does not have this problem.
[20:30] <nacc> ubuntu645: can you pastebin `ifconfig -a` ?
[20:31] <ubuntu645> nacc: sure,
[20:32] <ubuntu645> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665328/
[20:34] <nacc> ubuntu645: and pastebin `sudo lshw -c network`
[20:34] <camroncade> Hey I've posed a question here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/777007/running-a-bash-script-from-an-xsession-to-toggle-startup-programs and am looking for some help if anybody has any ideas
[20:34] <Queenslayer> nacc, you still at it?
[20:34] <Queenslayer> Any progress?
[20:35] <flyinprogrammer> so i just setup my first debian repo with artifactory and apt-get is complaining that my packages are unauthenticated. what does this mean? is there away to fix it? i uploaded my gpg key to artifactory and that fixed some things, but not this :(
[20:35] <nacc> Queenslayer: ubuntu645 installed the wily lts hwe stack, at least, but it still isn't detecting the card (afaict) at hte kernel level, which seems odd
[20:36] <Queenslayer> nacc, that sounds a bit deeper than I've ever delved before
[20:36] <ubuntu645> nacc:
[20:36] <ubuntu645> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665398/
[20:36] <nacc> ah ah
[20:36] <ubuntu645> Hi Queenslayer
[20:36] <ubuntu645> :)
[20:36] <Queenslayer> At least he's in more capable hands(I hope :P_
[20:36] <ubuntu645> thanks guys
[20:36] <Queenslayer> Hey ubuntu645
[20:36] <nacc> ubuntu645: nice, ok, so the driver maybe isn't loading, but i'm not sure why that would be
[20:36] <nacc> but let's see
[20:37] <Lope> what is the simplest way to get libvirt to work? it doesn't want to run without app-armor. I've installed apparmor apparmor-profiles but it's still complaining that apparmor is not enabled and libvirt-bin won't start.
[20:37] <Lope> Please help!
[20:37] <sfdebug> hi, i'm using ubuntu 14.04 with DHCP configuration, i want to subscribe the DNS servers i'm using, does anyone know how?
[20:37] <Queenslayer> nacc, I'd be tempted to say back up data and do fresh install, but this sounds interesting
[20:37] <nacc> ubuntu645: can you `modprobe iwl3945` ?
[20:37] <Queenslayer> sfdebug, meaning you want to configure them?
[20:38] <ubuntu645> nacc did it
[20:38] <ubuntu645> iwconfig
[20:38] <sfdebug> Queenslayer, yes, i want to change the DNS to use the DNS i want, not the sent via DHCP...
[20:38] <ubuntu645> gives something nice
[20:38] <nacc> ubuntu645: so here's my current theory, and i apologize for not thinking of this earlier
[20:39] <Queenslayer> sfdebug, that's quite straightfoward
[20:39] <ubuntu645> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665447/
[20:39] <ubuntu645> I am all ear...ehm eyes
[20:39] <Queenslayer> Go into network settings
[20:39] <nacc> ubuntu645: you switched underlying hardware, and the initrd didn't get rebuilt (probably), so a module (possibly modules) needed to support your new hardware aren't loded by default
[20:39] <ubuntu645> I see
[20:39] <nacc> ubuntu645: you really can't just move disks between heterogenous hardware and have everything "just work", aiui it anymore
[20:39] <Queenslayer> And under the tab IPV4 settings you should see under the DNS label it has an option under Additional servers
[20:39] <jinxi_> Sysinfo for 'linux-85up': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.6.4 on openSUSE Tumbleweed powered by Linux 4.5.4-1-default, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz at 3718-3786/3800 MHz, RAM: 14862/15453 MB, Storage: 93/236 GB, 262 procs, 49.17h up
[20:39] <nacc> jinxi_: inappropriate for this channel
[20:40] <jinxi_> ok
[20:40] <Queenslayer> sfdebug, presuming it's wifi?
[20:40] <nacc> ubuntu645: so i think at this point, you should be able to get on your wifi
[20:41] <Queenslayer> nacc, I didn't think you could do that with most systems
[20:41] <ubuntu645> nacc: basically it gives me the wifi connection but even after I put the password
[20:42] <Queenslayer> ubuntu645, so you can detect wifi networks?
[20:42] <ubuntu645> yes Queenslayer and they are unstable
[20:43] <ubuntu645> in the sense that, It lets me put the password
[20:43] <Queenslayer> That means it's working
[20:43] <nacc> Queenslayer: if they were physically identical, it might mostly work
[20:43] <nacc> ubuntu645: 'unstable'?
[20:43] <ubuntu645> but doesn't connect me
[20:43] <Queenslayer> your wifi drivers are fine then
[20:43] <markb1> docker on (x)ubuntu 16.04 -- containerd times out -- any solutions? :)
[20:43] <Queenslayer> Take your ethernet off
[20:43] <Queenslayer> That's probably why
[20:44] <davidmichaelkarr> I just posted the following: http://askubuntu.com/questions/777012/internal-mouse-location-is-above-and-left-of-physical-mouse-location . Anyone know anything about mouse misalignment issues?
[20:44] <Queenslayer> You're connecting via both ethernet and wifi to same router
[20:44] <ubuntu645> then when I check again it gives me "wireless not found"
[20:44] <ubuntu645> yep Queenslayer
[20:44] <Queenslayer> Take ethernet off and then connect wifi
[20:45] <ubuntu645> I will try but it will not work
[20:45] <nacc> ubuntu645: it might be the case that if this works, you could do the same in the older kernel you were on
[20:45] <OerHeks> hmm 3945ABG , see this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222374 >> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware
[20:45] <ubuntu645> that's right
[20:45] <ubuntu645> nacc:
[20:45] <ubuntu645> what should I do
[20:45] <ubuntu645> :)
[20:45] <nacc> ubuntu645: `modprobe iwl3945` in the older kernel
[20:45] <nacc> ubuntu645: i think you need to rebuild your initrd, etc, but i'm not sure how that works really
[20:46] <ubuntu645> i see
[20:46] <nacc> ubuntu645: i don't believe any OS really supports taking an installed image from one hardware to another
[20:46] <Queenslayer> ubuntu645, have you tried without your ethernet?
[20:46] <nacc> ubuntu645: your best bet is to install on the hardware you are using, if i had to guess
[20:46] <ubuntu645> Queenslayer: not yet
[20:46] <nacc> ubuntu645: a quick test would be to boot your new hardware off a liveusb or livecd
[20:46] <Queenslayer> give it a quick shot please
[20:46] <ubuntu645> ok
[20:46] <Queenslayer> This might be a simple networking issue
[20:46] <ubuntu645> speak sson
[20:47] <nacc> Queenslayer: good point, although i can connect to the same router via both (i just prioritize one over the other so i can undock and minimize my downtime)
[20:48] <ubuntu996> It happened what I thought
[20:48] <ubuntu996> it lets me put the password
[20:48] <ubuntu996> but then nothing happens
[20:48] <ubuntu996> so I am back to ethernet
[20:48] <Queenslayer> nacc, doesn't let you do it on Android
[20:48] <Queenslayer> So being based on Linux, thought maybe same principle
[20:49] <ubuntu996> i could try a live cd
[20:49] <ubuntu996> i have backtrack
[20:49] <nacc> Queenslayer: i doubt that's a Linux principle :) multiple routability is a pretty basic concept
[20:49] <ubuntu996> :D
[20:49] <nacc> ubuntu645: right, so what i'd like to confirm is if a not-previously-configured Ubuntu does the right thing
[20:49] <nacc> ubuntu996: rather
[20:49] <Queenslayer> nacc, you're probably right
[20:50] <Queenslayer> I've only a week old Linux convert
[20:50] <Queenslayer> *I'm
[20:50] <Jakey4> when i try to decrypt using gpg
[20:50] <nacc> Queenslayer: you'd be surprised how much is not "Linux" but "what your distro decided to do"
[20:50] <Jakey4> gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available
[20:50] <Jakey4> but i made a key pair
[20:50] <Jakey4> so not sure why its not availible
[20:50] <Jakey4> ?
[20:51] <Queenslayer> nacc, I managed to get my troublesome UEFI working after a lot of graft and has made me feel like Superman(much to the detriment of some poor users here) :P
[20:51] <Queenslayer> nacc, agreed, UEFI is definitely not a Linux issue
[20:52] <Lope> can someone please help me get livvirt to run?
[20:52] <nacc> Lope: did you reboot after installing apparmor?
[20:52] <tgm4883> Lope: is this on a standard ubuntu 16.04 install?
[20:52] <sfdebug> hi, i'm using ubuntu 14.04 with DHCP configuration, i want to subscribe the DNS servers i'm using, does anyone know how?
[20:52] <subsume> init script http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665223/
[20:53] <subsume> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16665206/
[20:53] <nacc> subsume: sorry, got distracted
[20:53] <subsume> :)
[20:53] <nacc> subsume: you're sure that's the output from `... start server` ?
[20:53] <nacc> err, 'start server1'
[20:54] <subsume> root@neomonolith:~# `bash -x /etc/init.d/memcached start server1 2>&1 | pastebinit` ?
[20:54] <nacc> hrm
[20:54] <nacc> subsume: the reason i asked is the output indicates this gets caleld:
[20:54] <nacc> systemctl_redirect /etc/init.d/memcached start
[20:54] <nacc> which is why it looks the same as not passing server1 at all
[20:54] <subsume> right
[20:55] <subsume> did you check out my init script?
[20:55] <subsume> like i said, it doesn't really seem to come as advertised
[20:55] <subsume> and this is a fresh 16.04 install so that's kinda concerning
[20:55] <StillWaters> O nice! There are ppl here!
[20:55] <nacc> subsume: just to be sure, did you have ENABLE_MEMCAHED=yes in /etc/default/memcached?
[20:55] <subsume> yep
[20:55] <Seveas> !info network-manager wily
[20:57] <nacc> subsume: ok, i'm not 100% sure, but i think the move to systemd has sort of made this init-script irrelevant
[20:57] <nacc> subsume: in that it just, upon
[20:57] <nacc> . /lib/lsb/init-functions
[20:57] <nacc> goes off and does some systemd-y stuff
[20:57] <Queenslayer> nacc, is he off trying live cd?
[20:57] <nacc> Queenslayer: i assume so, but not sure
[20:58] <Queenslayer> nacc, best way for now
[20:58] <Queenslayer> I honestly thought he's entering his wifi key wrong
[20:58] <nacc> Queenslayer: could also be true
[20:59] <subsume> nacc: well is the syntax simply incompatible? should someone in ubuntu or memcached know about this?
[21:00] <Bashing-om> subsume: Background info ?? : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers , Good ?
[21:01] <subsume> Bashing-om: i'm just talking about the stock memcached init script here and the comments provided within it
[21:01] <nacc> subsume: i mean, you might have found a bug :)
[21:01] <nacc> subsume: i'm doing some digging, give me a few moments
[21:01] <nacc> subsume: this is a fresh install, not an upgrade, right?
[21:01] <subsume> fresh install
[21:02] <ubuntu027> hi guys Queenslayer nacc Drone`
[21:02] <subsume> its the image that linode uses, if you tell me how i can better validate if its actually the latest install
[21:02] <nacc> subsume: i have a feeling i was the last to touch it in ubuntu, so give me a second :)
[21:02] <Bashing-om> subsume: All I am aware is that the scrips under upsatrt (14.04) will not be honored under systemd (16.04) .
[21:02] <ubuntu027> I am typing from a live cd
[21:03] <nacc> ubuntu027: wireless working?
[21:03] <ubuntu027> Ubuntu 8.10
[21:03] <Queenslayer> wb ubuntu027
[21:03] <ubuntu027> intepid
[21:03] <ubuntu027> intrepid ibex
[21:03] <ubuntu027> :D
[21:03] <nacc> ubuntu027: ugh, well, that's quite old, but does the wireless work?
[21:03] <Queenslayer> Excellent
[21:03] <subsume> Bashing-om: seems partially honored or something. i can get the daemon to work even respecting many options
[21:03] <ubuntu027> wireless working
[21:03] <nacc> ubuntu027: right, so my guess is you should reinstall your laptop
[21:03] <nacc> ubuntu027: and not have just moved the hdd over
[21:03] <ubuntu027> yep, I think I will do that in a near future
[21:03] <ubuntu027> :)
[21:03] <nacc> subsume: *differnetly* honored
[21:03] <ubuntu027> thanks guys
[21:04] <Queenslayer> Is there any way he can 'extract' drivers nacc ?
[21:04] <nacc> Queenslayer: i mean, 8.10 is too old to be relevant
[21:04] <ubuntu027> I will come and visit you when I have sorted everything
[21:04] <Bashing-om> subsume: Apologize if I am mis-directing .. Have not run a server to this time under systemd .
[21:04] <ubuntu027> cheers
[21:04] <nacc> but *if* it works stock in 8.10, i'd expect it to work under a nromal install of 14.04 and 16.04 as well
[21:04] <Queenslayer> nacc, defo
[21:04] <nacc> that's "expectation" to be clear, not guarantee :)
[21:05] <Queenslayer> but I had a weird issue with Xubuntu and stock
[21:05] <nacc> my 99% certainty guess is that there is a layer of init-stuff that is missing in the previously installed system to support hte "new" hardware
[21:05] <Queenslayer> Stock detected wireless during install
[21:05] <Queenslayer> Xubuntu didn't
[21:05] <nacc> Queenslayer: you mean you installed ubuntu 16.04, then xubuntu-desktop and your wireless stopped working? or it works under gnome but not udner xfce?
[21:06] <Queenslayer> No Xbuntu distro
[21:06] <Queenslayer> i erased Ubuntu
[21:06] <nacc> Queenslayer: ok
[21:06] <nacc> Queenslayer: and when you say wireless stopped working, doyou mean it doesn't associate, or not detecte at all?
[21:06] <Queenslayer> BCM43 driver wasn't installed in Xubuntu
[21:07] <Queenslayer> I had to do it manually
[21:07] <Queenslayer> Not detect at all
[21:07] <Queenslayer> I did it from the live CD
[21:07] <Queenslayer> really weird
[21:08] <nacc> Queenslayer: that might be a flavor decision, not sure, or mabye you didn't have extra repositories defined in the xubuntu case by default, not sure
[21:08] <Queenslayer> But I'll keep faffing around with these things to find out what it was, I just think there other dependencies for it that weren't updated
[21:08] <Queenslayer> nacc, I think so
[21:10] <nacc> subsume: so i think that init script was last touched in 2014
[21:10] <nacc> mabye 2013
[21:11] <subsume> gotcha
[21:11] <nacc> subsume: and is fully ignored by systemd
[21:11] <nacc> well, almost fully
[21:11] <nacc> there's a wrapper to parse /etc/default/memcached
[21:11] <subsume> so they call this 16.04 a LTS huh
[21:11] <subsume> oh really
[21:13] <subsume> what to do?
[21:13] <subsume> i let them know in #memcached
[21:13] <nacc> yeah, it gets installed in /usr/share/memcached/scripts/systemd-memcached-wrapper
[21:13] <subsume> but i don't think they are really the maintainers
[21:13] <nacc> subsume: i mean, they'll probably say they don't care
[21:13] <folder|> does Ubuntu 16.04 have problems with nVidia cards?
[21:13] <nacc> subsume: that's upstream, not the ubuntu maintainers
[21:13] <nacc> subsume: you probably should file an ubuntu bug
[21:13] <subsume> yep
[21:13] <nacc> !bug | subsume
[21:13] <nacc> subsume: but, to be clear, while i see why this init-script is confusing
[21:14] <nacc> subsume: what is your underlying isuse?
[21:14] <subsume> nacc: i guess just that, reading the init script and trying to make it work as advertised
[21:14] <subsume> if its garbage then it shouldn't be included in the release imho
[21:14] <nacc> subsume: ah ok, so if i, say, deleted said init-script (not sure i can, or need to), or modified it to not have that example ...
[21:14] <nacc> subsume: we generally take in debian
[21:14] <nacc> it's in debian, so it's in ubuntu
[21:14] <subsume> oh, gotcha
[21:14] <nacc> subsume: arguably this is debian bug, but i'd need to check that to be sure
[21:14] <subsume> yeah, i mean as it is its just a gun on the table to mislead and waste time
[21:15] <nacc> subsume: i'll run some VMs/containers and see what i can figure out
[21:15] <nacc> subsume: if you do file the bug, feel free to subscribe me (this nick is my launchpad id)
[21:15] <subsume> in debian or ubuntu
[21:15] <Bashing-om> folder|: No, maybe some games do ? What is the particular issue ?
[21:15] <folder|> the fan speed seems to be pegged at 100%
[21:16] <folder|> when I installed there was no prompt to install 3rd party drivers
[21:16] <nacc> subsume: we can start in ubuntu -- it's in main, which means it is properly supported, as well
[21:17] <Dexster> Hey guys, my capture card outputs raw AVI with PCM audio. In Ubuntu 14.04 the audio would be recognised and play inside of mplayer/videos, and would work fine in Kdenlive. However, on 16.04 Kdenlive and Mplayer see no audio. Ubuntu Restricted Extras is installed. The file plays correctly in VLC. Any ideas?
[21:17] <Bashing-om> folder|: Hardware ? ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ' in a pastebin .. see what driver is needed .
[21:18] <folder|> Bashing-om sorry the machine is at home right now.  I was checking to see if it was a known issue or if I needed to really dig in there
[21:18] <folder|> My first time using Ubuntu :D
[21:19] <Bashing-om> folder|: Generally, 'buntu "just works" .. Nvidia is well supported . But there are those times we must dig .
[21:19] <folder|> I saw that there were generic drivers and then there were specific drivers made specifically by nvidia
[21:19] <folder|> I didn't see any type of advanced graphics tuning in the general settings either
[21:19] <bprompt> Dexster:    are you using hmmm gnome-player to play it back?  for I've found the issue is the player itself, not the lack of codecs
[21:20] <Dexster> bprompt, my issue isn't so much that the default video player won't play the audio back, it's the fact that kdenlive won't.
[21:21] <folder|> will Ubuntu throw a fit if I enable SSH and then just remove the GPU?  This machine is intended to be a PLEX server anyway
[21:21] <nacc> subsume: if you wouldn't mind testing, if you just `mv /etc/init.d/memcached /etc/init.d/memcached.bak` and then do `systemctl start memcached`, does it start?
[21:21] <Bashing-om> folder|: Yeah .. we are open source .. and have the option to install proprietary softwares . Many times a proprietary graphic's driver does better . Not always the case . I do better with open source drivers on my AMD system .
[21:22] <subsume> nacc: there's no output
[21:22] <subsume> nacc: i'd rather not stop and start since its on a prod server
[21:23] <Bashing-om> folder|: I do think that with no graphic's card .. the ubuntu system will have conniption fits .
[21:24] <nacc> subsume: no problem, wasn't sure fo the context
[21:24] <nacc> subsume: yes, i believe no output means systemd is happy
[21:24] <subsume> so yeah it worked okay
[21:24] <subsume> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1585375
[21:24] <nacc> subsume: right, so i will talk to other devs to understand better, but if you could file the bug, i'll pick i tup
[21:25] <nacc> subsume: great, thank you! and thanks for helping make ubuntu better :)
[21:25] <bprompt> Dexster:    hmmm I don't use kdenlive myself hmm tried on some other suite?
[21:27] <nacc> subsume: another question for you, did this used to work in 14.04, e.g.?
[21:27] <Dexster> bprompt, no I haven't. Kdenlive has been an amazing tool for all of the youtube content I create.
[21:27] <subsume> nacc: i never really used that /etc/memcached_X.conf syntax before. I was just trying it out because of the crashes
[21:28] <subsume> is everything in /etc/init.d junk now?
[21:29] <nacc> subsume: not necessarily
[21:29] <nacc> subsume: if something has a .service file, then it doesn't need an init-script, aiui
[21:29] <subsume> where do those go?
[21:31] <bprompt> Dexster:   how about Dragon player? does it give you the sound?   I mean.... does kwin or kde gets sound? just wondering if it's kde multimedia settings
[21:31] <nacc> subsume: e.g., /lib/systemd/system/memcached.service
[21:31] <subsume> cool
[21:32] <nacc> subsume: i *think* all such service files live there, but there might be other paths. i'm not a systemd expert
[21:32] <nacc> subsume: in talking to other devs, it might be that the init-script is still usable with upstart
[21:32] <nacc> subsume: which might be why it was shipped
[21:32] <nacc> subsume: but if so, it should have a big comment in it :)
[21:35] <Seveas> subsume: lots of things in init.d will redirect to systemctl/systemd in a sneaky way, via /lib/lsb/init-functions
[21:36] <Seveas> try e.g. /etc/init.d/cron status
[21:36] <nacc> Seveas: yep, that's what i'm learning
[21:36] <nacc> subsume: so i think that's what happens when you invoked the script directly
[21:36] <nacc> it sourced the init-functions and that redirected
[21:36] <Seveas> yup
[21:36] <Seveas> sh -x /etc/init.d/cron status will give you more insight
[21:36] <nacc> Seveas: thanks for the insight!
[21:36] <nacc> Seveas: yeah, that's what i had subsume provide for memcached
[21:37] <nacc> Seveas: the issue is with 16.04 there are some comments in the init-scrip
[21:37] <nacc> that don't actually do what they say :)
[21:37] <Seveas> I wish they would just kill the initscripts
[21:37] <nacc> Seveas: i'm assumign that is an eventual goal
[21:37] <nacc> once they can get rid of upstart altogether
[21:37] <Seveas> but sadly Debian wants to keep giving people the stupid choice of not doing systemd
[21:37] <nacc> as i think upstart still uses them directly, or can
[21:38] <k1l> i heard ubuntu got rid of a lot of init scripts now in the transition to systemd. there are only some few left.
[21:38] <Seveas> upstart is irrelevant in this goal. It's Debian's goal of supporting non-linux kernels, so systemd can't be used.
[21:38] <nacc> Seveas: i'm not sure, but i think systemd-only will be in ubuntu eventually
[21:38] <nacc> Seveas: yeah, but it can be in ubuntu :)
[21:38] <Seveas> nacc: I do hope so.
[21:38] <nacc> k1l: yeah, there are far fewer now generally
[21:39] <Seveas> hurricane:~$ ls /etc/init.d/ | wc -l
[21:39] <Seveas> 69
[21:39] <nacc> k1l: but for packages synced or re-merged to debian, they might have come back in
[21:39] <Dexster> bprompt, Dragonplayer can not play the file
[21:39] <nacc> Seveas: heh, fair point :)
[21:39] <Lope> nacc: tgm4883 thanks. got libvirt working. got another issue now.
[21:39] <Lope> I changed from Debian 8 to Ubuntu 16.04. Now my NFSv3 clients can't mount my NFS shares. Any ideas? (using exact same IPs and config files etc). They can SEE the shares by running `rpcinfo -p <IP_ADDRESS>`. Kernel upgraded from 3.16 to 4.4. Any ideas?
[21:40] <Lope> When the clients try mount from NFSv3 it just lags, lags, lags, then times out.
[21:40] <Seveas> Lope: any firewalls in between?
[21:40] <nacc> Lope: just to be sure, you've loaded the NFS v3 module in the host?
[21:40] <nacc> k1l: or never been removed :)
[21:41] <sebsebseb> i
[21:41] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:41] <Lope> Seveas: the exact same firewall or at least should be.
[21:41] <Lope> Maybe my /etc/systemctl is diff.
[21:42] <Seveas> Lope: does showmount -e ip.of.nfs.server work?
[21:43] <bprompt> Dexster:    hmm then it's a kde issue it seems.... check if you have the libavcodec-extra and libavcodec-ffmpeg installed
[21:44] <subsume> getting a pretty dreaded error under somewhat high CPU load on a 16 cpu 14.04 box http://dpaste.com/3B1316E
[21:44] <bprompt> Dexster:   bear in mind that VLC comes with its own codecs, thus
[21:45] <Dexster> bprompt, I've just realised I basically have no gstreamer stuff installed
[21:45] <django_> k1l, hey so it just loads a command promt
[21:45] <django_> i need to install a GUI
[21:46] <Lope> Seveas: yes, it shows all the exported stuff
[21:47] <Seveas> Lope: hmm. Time to dig into /var/log on client and server and see if you can find anything odd. If not, maybe even break out tcpdump.
[21:48] <bprompt> Dexster:   ahh... IIRC kde uses gstreamer as phonon backend
[21:48] <k1l> django_: did you install "lubuntu desktop" now?
[21:48] <django_> no
[21:48] <django_> i need the command for installing lubuntu
[21:49] <sebsebseb> oh it's django_ again :d
[21:49] <k1l> django_: why dont you just run the isntaller again and do a proper install?
[21:49] <OerHeks> the mini iso starts with a text installer, pretty sinple
[21:49] <OerHeks> c/simple
[21:49] <django_> k1l, this is for a vbox
[21:49] <django_> it takes for ever to install
[21:49] <sebsebseb> django_: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktopp
[21:49] <django_> at least an hr
[21:49] <Dexster> bprompt, I'm forever seeing this Python (v3.5) requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: audio/x-avi-unknown decoder
[21:49] <sebsebseb> django_: typo desktop
[21:49] <k1l> django_: you can install "lubuntu-desktop" package if you have a running system
[21:50] <django_> sebsebseb, how do i know whih desktop i currently have?
[21:50] <django_> k1l, yeah i have a running system
[21:50] <sebsebseb> django_: just joined, what did you install or whatever?
[21:50] <k1l> django_: you said you have no desktop
[21:50] <django_> no
[21:50] <django_> i said i have no GUI
[21:50] <django_> but i have a cmd prompt
[21:50] <k1l> django_: so what did you install?
[21:50] <django_> k1l, http://imgur.com/vUtRK0f
[21:50] <sebsebseb> django_: when the computer boots up?
[21:50] <k1l> django_: that looks like the minimal /server install.
[21:51] <sebsebseb> django_: ok you got that
[21:51] <sebsebseb> django_: which ISO did you install Ubuntu from?
[21:51] <django_> sebsebseb, lubuntu
[21:51] <k1l> django_: so do "sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop"
[21:51] <OerHeks> trow away that vm and start again, and check the videomem/cpu settings before installing
[21:51] <k1l> sebsebseb: he used the netinstall iso but didnt choose a desktop package
[21:51]  * sebsebseb gets that at times after uhmmm well the Unity 8 stuff :d   the ppa stuff. and something else, so makes sense
[21:52] <bprompt> Dexster:    sounds like some python app, is all, using python 3.5 for its language, IIRC 16.04 comes with python 2.7.11
[21:52] <sebsebseb> django_:  the other day I helped you re install Ubuntu
[21:52] <django_> sebsebseb, yeah it hasnt worked since then
[21:52] <django_> just kidding
[21:52] <django_> this is for a virtual box
[21:52] <sebsebseb> django_: the net install isn't really for a standard Ubuntu install, and aimed at more experienced users
[21:52] <django_> gonna gym while ths downloads brb
[21:53] <Lope> Seveas: nothing strange in any of the logs
[21:53] <Lope> nacc: I didn't know there is a nfsv3 module?
[21:53] <sebsebseb> django_: and yeah no GUI in net install, can try the command for lubuntu-desktop though
[21:53] <django_> sebsebseb, yeah im tryng that
[21:55] <Lope> how can I check if the nfsv3 module is loaded? lsmod nfsv3.ko
[21:55] <Lope> I found the module files, but how do I check?
[21:55] <k1l> Lope: is it listed in "lsmod"?
[21:56] <mattfag> hello eerybody
[21:56] <Lope> ah, nfsv3 is not listed in lsmod.
[21:56] <mattfag> i'm having some issues with nouveau drivers on ubuntu 16.04
[21:56] <mattfag> can anyone help me?
[21:56] <Lope> but I found it in lib modules /fs/nfs/nfsv3.ko
[21:56] <mattfag> is this the right place for this?
[21:57] <k1l> mattfag: yes, just ask
[21:57] <Lope> okay I loaded it. modprobe nfsv3. it loaded without error.
[21:57] <mattfag> anyway, i did apt-get purge nvidia* bumblebee*, but i couldn't get rid of nouveau
[21:57] <Lope> But now I still cant mount it from the client.
[21:58] <mattfag> i mean, i do know nouveau is a driver for my gpu, but i don't want to use the gpu anymore
[21:58] <mattfag> I want to use mesa
[21:58] <mattfag> and leave the gpu off
[21:58] <mattfag> how to do this?
[21:59] <k1l> mattfag: erm, disable the gpu in bios?
[21:59] <mattfag> no, just in the os]
[21:59] <TheSilentLink> hello I am trying to still ubuntu with windows. When I boot to the installer I have no option to install alongside windows. Anyone know why?
[21:59] <mattfag> just in ubuntu
[21:59] <k1l> iirc nouveau is inside the kernel.
[21:59] <mattfag> yes, but how to disable that?
[22:00] <k1l> TheSilentLink: that could be because windows and the recovery partitions exceed already the maximum of 4 primary partitions. so the installer cant make new partitions to install ubuntu
[22:00] <mattfag> i mean, i didn't had this nouveau messages before the login, and the system is taking longer to boot now
[22:00] <TheSilentLink> k1l: so I need to delete one?
[22:01] <k1l> TheSilentLink: open a terminal on that live-system and run "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[22:01] <mattfag> what should i do to start Xorg with mesa?
[22:01] <mattfag> instead of nouveau
[22:02] <TheSilentLink> k1l: ok I will boot into ubuntu
[22:02] <mattfag> i don't want to use nouveau-gpu, just mesa-cpu
[22:03] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | mattfag
[22:03] <TheSilentLink> k1l: what is the command again?
[22:03] <PoppaVic> OK, anyone know the Ultimate Voodoo to teach ubuntu to freaking leave the lid-closure alone? Screen-off is perfect: sleep/hiber/shutdown I can do myself.
[22:03] <k1l> mattfag: blacklist the nouveau in the /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau.conf . but i dont know if that will work as expected. like giving you a working desktop. honestly i doubt it
[22:03] <k1l> TheSilentLink: open a terminal on that live-system and run "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[22:04] <Bashing-om> mattfag: 'nomodest' defeats Kernel Mode Setting .. thus the fall back driver (vesa) is loaded .
[22:04] <mattfag> hm
[22:04] <k1l> PoppaVic: system settings -> energie
[22:05] <PoppaVic> I've already done the battery/settings; the screenlock. Next?
[22:05] <k1l> ah, there is a kernel boot parameter "nouveau.blacklist=1"  mattfag
[22:05] <TheSilentLink> K1l: http://termbin.com/bozj
[22:05] <Bashing-om> mattfag: If this is a laptop .. not a good long range solution .. as other things are also diabled with that boot parameter .
[22:06] <k1l> TheSilentLink: like i said: its already using 4 primary partitions, which is the limit.
[22:06] <TheSilentLink> k1l: ok but which one do I remove
[22:07] <k1l> TheSilentLink: i dont know. 2 is the windows loader. 3 is windows. 1 and 4 are diagnose partitions, like the recovery things from the manufacturer.
[22:07] <e-coffee> hi what's the best way to install the latest nvidia drivers in 16.04. currently have the tested nvidia drivers installed
[22:08] <TheSilentLink> k1l: well can't just remove the manufacturer stuff
[22:08] <theshredder> anyone have any Plex knowledge? Have it set up, but running into weird issue I can't figure out on my own
[22:09] <e-coffee> i found this but am not sure http://askubuntu.com/questions/301648/how-to-install-nvidia-driver-in-ubuntu
[22:09] <k1l> TheSilentLink: if you remove the manufacturer stuff there might be that some functions like the recovery or such dont work anymore. that is your decision. i would boot windows, shrink the partition 3 from within windows. then remove 4 and make a new "extended" and put the ubuntu partitions into that extended one.
[22:10] <Bashing-om> e-coffee: Consider .. purge the present driver and allow the system to choose what it thinks best ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' ??
[22:10] <TheSilentLink> k1l: but can Windows boot if the loader isn't there?
[22:10] <PoppaVic> ok, so... "Ubuntu has broken lid-close and management routines". Got it.
[22:11] <e-coffee> ok Bashing-om ty
[22:11] <k1l> TheSilentLink: 2 is the loader partition for win. you can even reinstall win and only use 1 partition at all for windows.
[22:12] <k1l> TheSilentLink: its just the manufacturers dont care about that.
[22:13] <TheSilentLink> k1l: o sorry miss read it what is partition 4?
[22:13] <Bashing-om> e-coffee: If the file /etc/X11/Xorg.conf exists .. need to 'rm' it also in purging drivers .
[22:13] <k1l> its labeled "diag". i dont know what it is. your manufacturer could tell you that exactly
[22:13] <e-coffee> ok ty Bashing-om :)
[22:15] <lerner> i need a c64 simulator
[22:15] <TheSilentLink> k1l: o ok but I seem to have 2 diag partitions. But if I get a Windows install cd I can just use that to reinstall Windows right? If so what is the point of the recovery partitions
[22:16] <k1l> so you get the bloated windows preinstall with drivers but all that test programs from your manufacturer.
[22:17] <TheSilentLink> k1l: lol I would rather not have the bloat ware
[22:17] <TheSilentLink> k1l: so you recommend delete the 4th partition which is 821mb?
[22:18] <scubasteve> Hey everyone
[22:18] <scubasteve> When I hit the super key on my 16.04 systems, it minimizes whatever window is on top
[22:18] <k1l> TheSilentLink: as i said: i am just guessing with the diag partitions. but i would not erase 1 for windows to get not confused when their partition numbers change.
[22:19] <scubasteve> it doesn't do that when I hit the dash button manually
[22:19] <scubasteve> any ideas?
[22:19] <YankDownUnder> lerner, "vice" - is a Commodore emulator
[22:19] <k1l> lerner: "apt search searchterm" should always be the first stop.
[22:21] <TheSilentLink> k1l: well tbh I don't care about the bloatware install of Windows. So if I delete the diag partition which is 821mb I should me fine right? I have all ready skrinked the window partition
[22:21] <k1l> yes
[22:22] <TheSilentLink> k1l: ok but how do I delete it cause I can't do it in Windows for some reason
[22:22] <k1l> boot the live-ubuntu. then start "gparted" and delete it. then start the installer (its a program on the desktop or launcher)
[22:23] <TheSilentLink> k1l: thanks for your help
[22:23] <lerner> curious, kegafusion wont let me save states, but the directory is not root editable only...
[22:24] <danhedron> Hi, how do I report an issue with a package?
[22:24] <danhedron> the glm package is missing the cmake configuration
[22:25] <TheSilentLink> k1l: btw I am guessing I will have free space can I add it to my other partition?
[22:26] <k1l> !bug | danhedron
[22:27] <lerner> k1l, if that commands list the simulator on green, it means: it is already installed, or it s in the repo?
[22:27] <k1l> TheSilentLink: with gparted, yes
[22:28] <k1l> lerner: its in the repo. it says "installed" if its installed
[22:28] <syrius> if i'm running 14.04 with an installed package (irssi) do i have to uninstall it prior to installing the version from jessie-backports?
[22:28] <hispeed67> what's the best channel for video capture from camcorder
[22:28] <TheSilentLink> k1l: ok deleted the 4th one so now Ubuntu will install to the unused space?
[22:30] <TheSilentLink> k1l: unallocated*
[22:30] <lerner> some time ago i asked this, i forgot the answer: instead of sudo apt-get c I can do...
[22:30] <lerner> sudo apt c?
[22:30] <k1l> TheSilentLink: i think yes. but you can create the partitions to your needs if you want with gparted already
[22:30] <k1l> lerner: no
[22:31] <k1l> lerner: you are missing command for apt/apt-get. you can use apt install/purge/update/full-upgrade.
[22:32] <TheSilentLink> k1l: got the option now thanks a lot for your help!
[22:32] <k1l> lerner: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man8/apt.8.html
[22:35] <hispeed67> trying to use a jvc camcorder as a webcam using xubuntu 16.04. anybody familiar with anything along those   lines?
[22:42] <Jakey4> how much transfer speed should i expect on a home lan
[22:42] <Jakey4> im getting about 6mb/s
[22:42] <hispeed67> wired or wireless?
[22:42] <Jakey4> wired
[22:42] <hispeed67> 10 mbit?
[22:43] <Jakey4> is that with ssds
[22:43] <su-os> join ##securify for overclocking press f9 3x and ##su.os
[22:43] <su-os> :)
[22:43] <Jakey4> im reading from an ssd and writting to an hdd
[22:43] <hispeed67> a lan indicates wired, it can be either 10/100/1000 mbit. depends on the router/hub.
[22:44] <Jakey4> typical isp router
[22:44] <su-os> join ##securify for overclocking press f9 3x and ##su.os
[22:44] <hispeed67> your limited by the router.
[22:44] <k1l> su-os: no spam on freenode
[22:44] <hispeed67> between two computers on the private side of the router?
[22:45] <Jakey4> yes
[22:45] <ubuntu> Bollehopp
[22:45] <ubuntu> hi
[22:45] <hispeed67> meh... that's *reasonable*..
[22:46] <ubuntu> how do I install things???:D
[22:46] <hispeed67> assuming the router from the cable company is 10mbit
[22:46] <hispeed67> what would you like to install?
[22:46] <Guest39836> oh lots of programs but now im trying to install some bible software
[22:46] <Guest39836> but have no clue what to do
[22:46] <Jakey4> there is no god
[22:46] <Jakey4> the end
[22:47] <hispeed67> is it software that you already have? is it linux software or windows software?
[22:47] <HackerII> sudo apt-get install bibletime
[22:47] <Guest39836> Then you have no purpose in life...
[22:47] <Bashing-om> ubuntulog2: Many ways . terminal way ' sudo apt install <package> ' .
[22:48] <Jakey4> its hard to believe in the 21st century people still belive in religion
[22:48] <Guest39836> I tried to look like online for help but seems to be it wasnt very helpful
[22:48] <Guest39836> I dont believe in religion :D I believe in JC
[22:48] <HackerII> Guest39836:  install bibletime
[22:48] <Guest39836> bibletime?
[22:48] <dax> Jakey4: That's not appropriate for this channel.
[22:48] <HackerII> ya
[22:49] <HackerII> its like esword
[22:49] <Guest39836> I just wanted to know how to install things, someone else started arguing
[22:49] <k1l> Guest39836: "apt search searchterm" and then install the package you like with "sudo apt install packagename"
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Guest39836: Check out the ubuntu christian edition . support for in ubuntuforums.org .
[22:49] <Jakey4> dax, ok
[22:50] <Guest39836> hmm
[22:50] <Guest39836> Oh (in this chat) how do I sort of register a nickname?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> !register | Guest39836
[22:51] <LtL> Guest39836: /msg nickserv help
[22:51] <Guest39836> !register Bollehopp
[22:51] <Guest39836> hmm
[22:51] <Bollehopp> Hi :D
[22:52] <Bollehopp> Im that guest guy
[22:52] <Bollehopp> but thank you for that knowledge
[22:52] <Bollehopp> Is Ubuntu worth it then?
[22:52] <k1l> you are here, what do you guess :)
[22:52] <Bashing-om> Bollehopp: Now why else do millions use it ?
[22:53] <Bollehopp> Yes, but what do you recommend me do to learn more about it? :D
[22:53] <k1l> Bollehopp: start using it.
[22:53] <Bollehopp> Im like a complete ubuntu(linux)noob
[22:54] <Bashing-om> Bollehopp: We were all new at ome time . Use 'buntu and make it what you want of it .
[22:55] <Bollehopp> Oh is there any other writing software, than LIbre office?
[22:55] <Bollehopp> that runs on ubuntu?
[22:55] <Bollehopp> I dont really mind libreoffice but dont really like it
[22:56] <squinty> !manual | Bollehopp
[22:56] <Guest86455> is open office still available
[22:56] <Bollehopp> Thank you mate
[22:57] <k1l> Bollehopp: well, you can start using .tex :)
[22:57] <Bollehopp> It does look so cool right :D this Ubuntu thing
[22:58] <Bollehopp> My IQ just went up a few points right
[23:01] <Bollehopp> Hmm what can I do when the system freezes?
[23:02] <subsume> what do you mean
[23:02] <subsume> is it OOM?
[23:02] <Bollehopp>  i mean that i got some like little screen open which says "getting started with ubuntu" right, and its sort of froze my comp
[23:03] <subsume> you gotta find out more i guess
[23:04] <Bollehopp> Hmm it was firefox that wasnt working
[23:04] <Bashing-om> Bollehopp: Graceful method: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses /
[23:06] <Bollehopp> I just noticed that alt plus f4 also closes things down, but of some reason the mouse wasnt responding to clicking on the buttons
[23:06] <lerner> vice (c64 emulator) is now instaled, but I dont know how to start it. CLI states: command not found
[23:06] <lerner> name in synaptic is: vice
[23:11] <TheSilentLink> anyone know why /etc/defaults/grub is empty
[23:13] <Bollehopp> Goodnight guys
[23:13] <Bashing-om> TheSilentLink: Try as /etc/default/grub .. no 's' on default .
[23:14] <drewdroid> not exactly ubtuntu question so im gonna get in trouble but... in linux what is the best way to test health of hard drive or should i try my manufacturers tools ?
[23:14] <Rochvellon> lerner: Commandline: 'x64' for C64, 'x128' for C128 etc. you need the roms for the desired platform
[23:16] <OerHeks> having roms in the repos would be piracy
[23:17] <TheSilentLink> Bashing-om: thanks btw what would I set to make windows the default?
[23:17] <OerHeks> drewdroid, see the 'disks'tool, check s.m.a.r.t.
[23:17] <lerner> i need the search command again, I need to locate the directory of a program
[23:17] <drewdroid> oh ok
[23:18] <drewdroid> im running some tests with seatools now the LONG test
[23:18] <drewdroid> cuz basically my deal is this is a 1tb drive.. i made a 100gb partition in the beginning of the drive sprecificurry for ubuntu
[23:18] <drewdroid> and i put ubuntu in there.. with a swap
[23:19] <drewdroid> starts out lovely
[23:19] <drewdroid> gradually gets crashy
[23:19] <drewdroid> then with lots of fsck's but still starting
[23:19] <squinty> lerner,  if you have mlocate installed then you can use the locate command.   if looking for a new file, then run sudo updatedb  first and then   locate <filename>
[23:19] <drewdroid> then one day FREEZE
[23:19] <cosmicfires> how can I copy my thunderbird config and emails from 14.04 to 16.04?
[23:19] <Bashing-om> TheSilentLink: " GRUB_DEFAULT=0 " compare the menu number you want from /boot/grub/grub.cfg .
[23:19] <alpha> blue
[23:19] <drewdroid> and then that is the day when the partition table gets deleted and i have to use partition recovery tools or my backuo
[23:19] <Bashing-om> !grub | TheSilentLink
[23:20] <drewdroid> if i put win10 in same partitition... it also gets flaky
[23:20] <drewdroid> so right now this 100gb parttion is unallocated
[23:20] <drewdroid> just empty space
[23:20] <drewdroid> and i have crudbuntu on another drive
[23:21] <squinty> cosmicfires, your thunderbird directory -> usb.  in the 16.04 thunderbird, delete all files in the default user folder and then copy your old thunderbird files to it
[23:21] <cosmicfires> thanks squinty
[23:21] <gump744> how can I change the Xubuntu XFCE menu button appearance? I know how to change themes and icons but can't find a way to do this though I have seen people who change these
[23:22] <Guest91038> When I view the output of 'systemclt list-jobs' , three different cryptswap units are running and un-killable, and i Think this is is what is keeping me from being able to poweroff/reboot always recieving a "failed to ... Transaction is destructive. Any ideas?
[23:22] <jiffe> so I noticed in the repos that there's two different versions of ceph when I apt-cache show ceph, if I apt-get install ceph it will install the latest?
[23:22] <squinty> gump744,  #xubuntu channel is here on freenode
[23:23] <jiffe> this is in 16.04
[23:23] <gump744> thanks squinty....do you know the command to list all freenode channels? I thought it was /list
[23:23] <drewdroid> i stick with regular ubuntu because i dunno... i feel like the other flavors always seem to work wrongly
[23:23] <drewdroid> like somethin wont matchup exact and theres an annoying work around yada yada
[23:24] <squinty> gump744, hmmm...actually no. :P  I use hexchat and just use it's search function to find channels.  you can also use alis
[23:24] <TheSilentLink> Bashing-om, can't find /boot/grub/grub.cfg I did sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg  but nothing happens
[23:24] <squinty> !alis
[23:24] <jiffe> and a followup question, if ceph releases updates will those show up in the 16.04 repos or will 16.04 likely be fairly static going forward and if I want to keep up to date I'd be better off using the ceph repos
[23:25] <Bashing-om> jiffe: How much ram is installed, and how big is the swap partiton ? and what is defined for swap in the file /etc/fstab ? A good hint ' free -m ' .
[23:25] <gump744> thanks
[23:25] <jiffe> I'm thinking that was meant for someone else
[23:26] <Guest91038> for me maybe?
[23:26]  * squinty thinks he will figure it out in a "jiffe"  :P
[23:27] <Bashing-om> TheSilentLink: gedit is a GUI tool .. a no no no to start it with 'sudo' BAd bad side effects . The file does exist ; " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /boot/grub/grub.cfg >> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 41455 May 24 16:30 /boot/grub/grub.cfg .
[23:27] <gump744> is I want to use XFCE but not most of the Xubuntu core apps am I better off installing Ubuntu and adding XFCE DE or is that messier than stripping Xubuntu and adding apps I want?
[23:28] <cosmicfires> squinty, copying the files from .mozilla-thunderbird to .thunderbird doesn't work
[23:28] <nacc> Lope: did you figure out your nfs issue?
[23:28] <TheSilentLink> Bashing-om: well I found it but I do I put Windows 10 (loader) (on /dev/sda2) as the default?
[23:28] <cosmicfires> thunderbird wants to make a new config
[23:29] <Guest91038> 3.8G installed; 2.9G swap with 0 being used
[23:29] <Bashing-om> TheSilentLink: I can not say .. all depends on the menu position in that file .. the numbering starts at '0' . The file to edit is /etc/default/grub .
[23:30] <TheSilentLink> Bashing-om: o ok so if windows 10 was the last option in the list I need to know what number that is
[23:30] <studio-darkvenom> hey guys wondering if someone can help me figure out this wifi issue in ubuntu studio
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Guest91038: Tjen as swap is less than the installed ram .. no can hiberbare as swap can not contain all that is in ram .
[23:31] <squinty> cosmicfires,  you have to copy the files under the .thunderbird directory in your home folder ( for example  /home/squinty/.thunderbird/1xjd1d2s.default to a usb (or other storage medium) and then delete all files in the new thunderbird .thunderbird folder and then copy your old ones into it
[23:31] <Bashing-om> TheSilentLink: Yeah .. count .. after reading up on the link provided .
[23:32] <jiffe> does ubuntu still keep the same version of packages within an LTS or might they be upgraded in an update release like 16.04.1 ?
[23:32] <_28_ria> Hello, Ubuntu 16.04, I've been using nVidia graphics card.Now I've decided to plugin one more monitor.Inserted an AMD graphics card,but display doesn't come up.When I go to Display in settings panel,it shows only 2 monitors,connected to the nVidia card.AMD card doesn't show up.In programs and updates it shows only proprietary drivers for nVidia,but no AMD.lspci shows that AMD coard is plugged in.
[23:32] <cosmicfires> I'll try again, I have the old disk online too so I copied from it
[23:32] <squinty> cosmicfires,  it works as I have done that routine many times over the years :-)
[23:32] <cosmicfires> the old thunderbird uses .mozilla-thunderbird could it be too old?
[23:32] <TheSilentLink> Bashing-om: o ok so I am guessing I need to reboot and count the number of entries there are
[23:32] <Guest91038> so enlarge my swap partition?
[23:32] <xangua> jiffe: no major, just security updates yes
[23:33] <compdoc> _28_ria, check to see if there is a driver available
[23:33] <_28_ria> compdoc: shows only nVidia
[23:33] <_28_ria> in programs and updates
[23:33] <_28_ria> compdoc: is there some other way to check?
[23:33] <TheSilentLink> well here I have after reading up on the link provided Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-22-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-22-generic Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic
[23:33] <TheSilentLink> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-21-generic
[23:33] <TheSilentLink> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf
[23:33] <TheSilentLink> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin Found Windows Recovery Environment (loader) on /dev/sda1 Found Windows 10 (loader) on /dev/sda2 so I am guessing there are 8 right?
[23:34] <squinty> cosmicfires,  look in that directory for your files.  the default (if there is only one account that is) should be listed in there and that is the folder you want to copy the contents of
[23:34] <cosmicfires> ok
[23:34] <Guest91038> sorry, type. 3.8 installed RAM, 3.9 swap space
[23:34] <compdoc> _28_ria, system>preferences>hardware>additional drivers. is that where you looked?
[23:34] <_28_ria> compdoc: yes
[23:34] <Bashing-om> TheSilentLink: No reboot needed .. the entries will not change . count to the menu entry tou want as default . and edit /etc/default/grub  . " GRUB_DEFAULT=X" .save the file .. and propagate the change with 'sudo update-grub' .
[23:35] <compdoc> _28_ria, there might be a way of installing the driver for it, but I dont know how
[23:35] <zykotick9> _28_ria: note, you can't have both nvidia and ati propritary drivers installed at the same time (or historically you couldn't?)
[23:36] <_28_ria> zykotick9: how about proprietary nVidia, as it is now and open source AMD?
[23:36] <zykotick9> _28_ria: i have no idea...  good luck.
[23:36] <squinty> cosmicfires, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profiles-tb
[23:37] <cosmicfires> thanks squinty
[23:37] <squinty> cosmicfires, yw.   looks like a good read.   ask again in here if you get stuck :-)
[23:38] <cosmicfires> ok thanks for the hlep
[23:38] <squinty> cosmicfires, no problem.
[23:39] <studio-darkvenom> can some one help me just installed ubuntu studio today and cant get my wifi to work after i put in my password nothing happens using cable  ethernet connection atm
[23:40] <text> hi
[23:41] <squinty> studio-darkvenom,  Dash -> Additional Drivers and see if it offers anything.  Btw, there is a #ubuntu-studio channel here on freenode too
[23:41] <studio-darkvenom> i know i was in the ubuntu studio channel and they told me to come here
[23:43] <studio-darkvenom> getting unknown drivers in additional drivers tab ?
[23:45] <ra_> hello all
[23:48] <studio-darkvenom> guess im gonna have to go somewhere else to find help
[23:48] <squinty> studio-darkvenom,  lspci | grep -i network  to see what card you are using    ifconfig to see network connections
[23:49] <squinty> !patience | studio-darkvenom `
[23:49] <_28_ria> what package do I need to install, in order to enable amd graphics card?
[23:49] <_28_ria> on Ubuntu 16.05
[23:49] <_28_ria> 16.04
[23:50] <studio-darkvenom> alright got the name of my wifi hardware
[23:51] <studio-darkvenom> should i type it in chat ?
[23:54] <studio-darkvenom> alright checking out the ubuntu sites that were linked here appreciate the help
[23:56] <_28_ria> studio-darkvenom: what do you mean by nothing happens, after password?