[11:52] <craigp84> Daverocks, i've raided through /etc/X11 to no avail, tried /etc/init.d just in the offchance, but nothing sensible
[11:53] <selinuxium> craigp84: you just missed him...
[11:54] <craigp84> lamaka, yeah that was going to be my fall back... but i need to apply for all users, so i'd need to enable root account, log into gnome, do a "gconf-editor" find the relevant key, right click, choose set as mandatory, log out of root, disable account again :-(
[11:54] <craigp84> selinuxium, lol yeah i need to practice with "tux typing" make myself a faster typer :-)
[11:56] <selinuxium> craigp84: lol, my typing is reminiscent of someoen hitting the keyboard with a pound of sausages....  :)
[11:56] <kalm> wow selinuxium... you must have good aim then :D
[11:57] <Juhaz> RMorris84, try this: dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=net.sf.gaim.GaimService /net/sf/gaim/GaimObject net.sf.gaim.GaimInterface.GaimBlistSetVisible int32:1
[12:01] <Doow> Anyone know where the background images are stored?
[12:01] <Doow> desktop background that is
[12:01] <Ash-Fox> /usr/share/wallpapers/ probably
[12:01] <Doow> just searching my HD for their names doesn't seem to be working =(
[12:01] <Doow> Ash-Fox: ok
[12:02] <Doow> Ash-Fox: nope, no such directory =(
[12:03] <craigp84> Doow, /usr/share/backgrounds :-)
[12:03] <Doow> craigp84: haha =)
[12:03] <MistaED> /usr/share'ing is caring
[12:04] <mnepton>  /luser/blaring/ridiculous/car/stereo
[12:05] <Ash-Fox> dooglus, he, wallpapers exists here
[12:06] <craigp84> boo hiss, FTR, turns out that gnome-screensaver is used now. But if i completely turn it off, then the "quit" button wont work, as the wee dialog which have logout / reboot /shutdown buttons uses gnome-screensaver for that functionality. As i say just FTR
[12:13] <kyja> I leave my computer running for 2 or 3 days and everything screws up.
[12:14] <kyja> things dont launch
[12:14] <kyja> network does not function
[12:14] <kyja> strange
[12:14] <eilker> how to open port 4662 ?
[12:15] <jellegan1> hello, room.
[12:17] <kaptengu> can someone tell me how to control the fan speed?
[12:18] <Adross> how do I change the time in text only mode?
[12:19] <bimberi> Adross: use the "date" command
[12:19] <mnepton> Adross: you should use NTP
[12:19] <Adross> bimberi: that displays the time and date, i want to change it
[12:19] <Adross> mnepton: i'm listening
[12:19] <mnepton> Adross: where are you geographically?
[12:20] <Adross> Australia, Sydney
[12:20] <mnepton> where in .au?
[12:20] <mnepton> ah
[12:20] <mnepton> sec
[12:20] <bimberi> Adross: 'man date'  and see that it doeas more than that
[12:20] <Adross> bimberi: sorry. In my defense, i worked 7 hours of hard labour today
[12:20] <vaineh> can someone tell me why i see "no video" where there should be video in firefox when ive installed mplayer plugin with codecs etc as well?
[12:20] <Engrish> argh i think i got a bad disk!
[12:20] <bimberi> Adross: not enough.  8 and I'll forgive you.
[12:20] <cherubiel> !fan | kaptengu
[12:20] <ubotu> kaptengu: fan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[12:21] <jellegan1> man date --- that's funny.
[12:21] <bimberi> :P
[12:21] <Doow> Engrish: it failed with another iso too?
[12:21] <mnepton> Adross: sudo ntpdate ntp.saard.net
[12:21] <Engrish> doow: yes
[12:21] <Doow> Engrish: =(
[12:21] <Adross> mnepton: thankyou
[12:21] <Engrish> exact same problem but different sectors
[12:21] <Adross> no server suitable for synchornisation found
[12:22] <Engrish> ah screw it...i don't really need to install Ubuntu
[12:22] <mnepton> Adross: that should query a time server in Adelaide and set the correct time.
[12:22] <Doow> Engrish: yes you do =)
[12:22] <Engrish> i doubt those people know how to use it anyway...they can barely use XP
[12:22] <Doow> Engrish:  you could try using instlinux if you want to install without adding any other bootable media
[12:22] <Doow> Engrish: haha
[12:23] <Ropechoborra> Hi, I'm trying to share my internet connection (with kubuntu edgy) to a Windows XP Laptop via LAN... I recive pings from the laptop but i cant access from it to my kubuntu pc.. any ideas? It may be a Samba config problem...  Dont have much idea =(
[12:23] <Doow> Engrish: http://sourceforge.net/projects/instlux it only does ubuntu 6.06, but you can always upgrade
[12:23] <bimberi> mnepton: it's probably at the pub celebrating the cricket win :)
[12:24] <jellegan1> instlinux?
[12:24] <mnepton> Adross: sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[12:24] <Adross> thanks
[12:24] <Doow> jellegan1: it installs linux (suse or ubuntu) from windows without the usage of any external bootable media
[12:25] <Engrish> damn it even full erase won't fix the stupid disk
[12:25] <Doow> jellegan1: it's a pain if you don't have a good network connection though, since it downloads almost everything during the install
[12:26] <jellegan1> well, I figured as much.
[12:26] <mnepton> Engrish: did you md5sum the .iso?
[12:27] <Doow> mnepton: yes, and he tried two different isos
[12:27] <mnepton> did you burn them at </= 4x speed?
[12:28] <Engrish> mnepton: yes i md5 check using Hasttab (as suggested on Ubuntu website) and i burn them at 1x
[12:28] <mnepton> Engrish: and what happens when you try and boot?
[12:28] <Engrish> error reading disk
[12:28] <Engrish> imgburn can write but can't verify
[12:29] <mnepton> you either have a bad image, a bad burn, or wonky burning software
[12:29] <Ropechoborra> Hi, I'm trying to share my internet connection (with kubuntu edgy) to a Windows XP Laptop via LAN... I recive pings from the laptop but i cant access from it to my kubuntu pc.. any ideas? It may be a Samba config problem...  Dont have much idea =(
[12:29] <mnepton> try CDBurnerXP?
[12:29] <frflame> hey
[12:30] <Adross> Ropechoborra: tell me about your setup. Are the laptop and pc connected to the same router?
[12:30] <mnepton> Ropechoborra: Samba has nothing to do with connection sharing. did you install and set up iptables?
[12:30] <Engrish> i try burning twice using Imgburn with 2 different drive same result
[12:30] <Engrish> i could try using nero
[12:30] <mnepton> Engrish: try CDBurnerXP. it's free.
[12:30] <Ropechoborra> mnepton yeap... that might be... i'll check to accept from my laptops ip and then i tell you.. =)
[12:30] <Engrish> well nero oem is already install...going to try that first
[12:30] <frflame> i want to know how is it possible to install 'wine' i dont have a active internet connection with my ubuntu desktop. X?
[12:31] <frflame> is anyone knowledged about this??
[12:31] <jellegan1> I've never installed wine without a net connection.
[12:31] <frflame> damm//
[12:31] <Qwerty> when I give sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it restarts but says that it couldnt find machine's full domain name and uses <IP_ADDRESS> instead
[12:31] <frflame> even If I wanted I cant connect to the internet at the moment..
[12:31] <Qwerty> how do I make it use <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:32] <frflame> because 'AOL' is silly..
[12:32] <frflame> :S
[12:32] <bimberi> frflame: download the debian/ubuntu .deb file from the wine website (winehq.org).  transfer to pc, and it install using dpkg
[12:32] <mattfury> is there a way i can install in verbose mode?
[12:32] <jellegan1> frflame - try roadrunner.
[12:32] <frflame> it uses a windows program to connect to the internet.
[12:32] <frflame> hm
[12:32] <mnepton> Qwerty: you can't invent domain names in httpd.conf and expect apache to use them
[12:32] <frflame> whats roadrunner
[12:32] <frflame> ?
[12:32] <mnepton> frflame: leave AOL?
[12:33] <Qwerty>  so why isnt it using <IP_ADDRESS> as before restart ?
[12:33] <jellegan1> better than aol.
[12:33] <frflame> mnepton I tried....
[12:33] <frflame> roadrunner is a isp?
[12:33] <mattfury> is there a way i can install ubuntu installation in verbose (text-only) mode?
[12:33] <mnepton> Qwerty: http://localhost
[12:33] <frflame> I live in the UKAY.
[12:33] <jellegan1> yep.
[12:33] <frflame> i dont live in teh YOUESSAY.
[12:34] <Qwerty> the problem is, when I try localhost and try opening a PHP file it asks to download, when I visit <IP_ADDRESS> and open the php file, it opens
[12:34] <jellegan1> I forget what it's called in the uk.
[12:34] <frflame> damm
[12:34] <Qwerty> <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[12:34] <frflame> hm
[12:35] <mnepton> Qwerty: then fix your vhost's MIME settings
[12:35] <frflame> I want to migrate to eclipse internet.. but AOL tied me up to another contract :S
[12:35] <momal> My error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -llualib5.1 | I have lua5.1, liblua5.1-0 and liblua5.1-0-dev installed how can I fix this?
[12:35] <Qwerty> mnepton, how do I do that? am a bit noobish here :p
[12:35] <frflame> http://www.eclipse.net.uk/index.cfm?id=fixedmain_res
[12:35] <frflame> that seems nice
[12:35] <mnepton> Qwerty: or, fix the vhosts index defintion. tell it to use index.php as well as index.html
[12:36] <mnepton> Qwerty: i would sit down with a pot of coffee and read *everything* in httpd.conf
[12:36] <Qwerty> hehe ok I'll try that
[12:36] <Qwerty> thanks mnepton
[12:36] <jellegan1> that's very much like roadrunner here in the US.
[12:36] <frflame>  mnepton AOL is soo anoyying.. oh my god..
[12:36] <frflame> If I had the cash
[12:37] <frflame> I would sue them
[12:37] <mnepton> Qwerty: honestly, i could tell you. but then we'd just have another "web administrator" that has no real idea of how things work. we already have enough of those, and you're too smart to be another one. ;)
[12:37] <Qwerty> hehe am a student :p
[12:37] <Qwerty> just trying my hand at learning PHP
[12:37] <mnepton> "smart" has little to do with "educated"
[12:38] <Qwerty> right :)
[12:38] <jellegan1> frflame - you wouldn't be the first.
[12:38] <frflame> damm I feel so upset.. :(
[12:38] <frflame> but wait?
[12:38] <mnepton> take a look at all the PhD professors that stare at undergraduate girls' boobs. NOT smart. educated, but not smart.
[12:39] <frflame> I found something its called pengaol anyone knows if it will work with ubuntu?
[12:39] <frflame> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[12:39] <jellegan1> that's a matter of opinion.
[12:39] <Qwerty> lol
[12:40] <frflame> anyone know if that program might work?
[12:40] <frflame> :S
[12:40] <wizo> anyone has any idea why i get this error saying configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables ?
[12:40] <jellegan1> it's supposed to work with Debian....
[12:40] <frflame> so there is no chace with ubuntu//:S
[12:41] <frflame> ?
[12:41] <mnepton> frflame: the path of least resistance is getting a real ISP.
[12:41] <bimberi> !info penggy
[12:41] <ubotu> penggy: connects to AOL via modem or TCP/IP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-13 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 332 kB
[12:41] <mnepton> frflame: i'm sure the UK is full of companies eager to separate you from your money
[12:41] <bimberi> ^^^ looks promising
[12:41] <glaz> im trying to install xgl , i added the good deb source to sources.list, and still after apt-get update, i guess couldnt find xserver-xgl
[12:42] <frflame> !penggy
[12:42] <ubotu> penggy: connects to AOL via modem or TCP/IP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-13 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 332 kB
[12:42] <glaz> but if i browse the source deb, i can see the xserver-xgl .deb file
[12:42] <frflame> I have dapper drake..
[12:42] <frflame> XD
[12:42] <jellegan1> pengaol likely doesn't work.
[12:42] <jellegan1> google says so.
[12:43] <frflame> well I might as well as wait and migrate to another good isp..
[12:43] <jellegan1> or break contract.
[12:43] <frflame> if i migrate now
[12:43] <frflame> they make me pay about 100
[12:43] <naxxatoe> naxxatoe@cerbellum:/home/nepenthes/binaries$ apt-cache search xgl |grep server
[12:43] <naxxatoe> xserver-xgl - GL-based X server
[12:44] <naxxatoe> um
[12:44] <frflame> eclipse sent me this emaiL : Dear Customer,
[12:44] <frflame> We do not offer direct support for Linux. However, the speedtouch 330 modem that we supply does have some (at least) Linux support - http://speedtouch.sourceforge.net/
[12:44] <frflame> Once you have either the modem or router connected to the Linux box successfully we will be able to answer any questions regarding ADSL settings.
[12:44] <frflame> Unfortunately due to the limitations that we have to place on the support desk the support of Linux is something which we are unable to provide.
[12:44] <frflame> Kind Regards,
[12:44] <naxxatoe> dont know why you cant get it ;)
[12:44] <glaz> naxxatoe: me neither and look at this, http://beryl-mirror.pricechild.co.uk/dists/edgy/all/
[12:44] <glaz> its there
[12:44] <mnepton> frflame: they may not be able to charge you that disconnect fee if they're telling you "we cannot support you"
[12:44] <frflame> but I will migrate..
[12:45] <frflame> Im not going to disconnect.
[12:45] <glaz> i mean, http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/edgy/all/
[12:45] <mnepton> frflame: if they cannot deliver the service to your chosen OS then they can't well penalize you for leaving.
[12:45] <mnepton> frflame: http://home.ntl.com/
[12:45] <jellegan1> wellll......
[12:45] <naxxatoe> well
[12:45] <naxxatoe> but on the other side of the hand ;)
[12:45] <naxxatoe> i use ubuntu 5.10 ;)
[12:45] <naxxatoe> xD
[12:46] <frflame> well thanks for the helpz
[12:46] <frflame> im off now
[12:46] <bimberi> !info penggy dapper
[12:46] <frflame> so take care
[12:46] <frflame> and peace out
[12:46] <ubotu> penggy: connects to AOL via modem or TCP/IP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-13 (dapper), package size 71 kB, installed size 332 kB
[12:46] <frflame> !info AOL
[12:46] <glaz> naxxatoe : now it works, no reason why!
[12:46] <ubotu> Package aol does not exist in any distro I know
[12:46] <glaz> anyway..
[12:46] <surface> apt-cache is not working properly, any solution?
[12:47] <bimberi> surface: "not working properly"??
[12:47] <surface> bimberi, when i query with apt-cache, can't get some packages list, i check with synaptic, synaptic do give me
[12:48] <yallax> wtb a helpful irc chan for w2k3 server aswell :P
[12:48] <jellegan1> !mount
[12:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:48] <bimberi> surface: what's an example search?
[12:49] <naxxatoe> yallax: what kinda support do you need with your win server?
[12:49] <yallax> migth aswell post my prob here too then:
[12:49] <surface> bimberi , a lots, apt-cache pkgnames libsdl
[12:49] <yallax> i got 3 vlan's connected to a switch.. on vlan-1 there is a w2k3 dhcp server.. how can i deal dhcp to the other vlan's? is it enough to just make more scopes in dhcp..or do i need a relay agent on the dhcp server? or other?
[12:50] <surface> should gives me long list, but i figure out tat its not complete, bimberi
[12:50] <mnepton> yallax: that's a Windows question. try down the hall.
[12:51] <marcin__> hello
[12:51] <bimberi> surface: hm, i get 53 lines
[12:51] <marcin__> jest tu ktos pl?
[12:51] <yallax> well i tried:) not much response.. i used google until my eyes started to bleed:P
[12:52] <surface> i get 18 only, bimberi
[12:52] <surface> bimberi , edgy u using?
[12:52] <taylor> how do i turn a jdk bin file into a deb?
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I was wondering what the difference was between Beyl, Compiz, AIGLX and XGL
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> and which one would be best to install
[12:54] <ocx32> where can i ask a vpn question?
[12:54] <bimberi> surface: yes, i386 with main,restricted,universe,multiverse by edgy,edgy-updates,edgy-security  and wine
[12:54] <Rocito> how do i enable accents on my letters, and the Euro sign?  'e `e if you know what i mean, it won't work.
[12:54] <kestaz> who has got working bcm43xx driver ?
[12:55] <surface> bimberi, i have more than that, plf , etc
[12:55] <surface> is it because of that?
[12:55] <surface> wb mypapit
[12:55] <rasputnik> anyone know what package the C manpages are in?
[12:55] <mypapit> hey
[12:55] <mypapit> thanks Surf
[12:55] <bimberi> rasputnik: manpages-dev
[12:55] <mypapit> thanks surface
[12:55] <stefg> Hmm, I could use some help in installing a Postscript pseudo-printer on ubuntu dapper. gnome-cups-manager only lets me select my physical USB printer. How can I add a 'Generic postscript printer' which uses a file as output?
[12:55] <rasputnik> bimberi: cheers
[12:55] <frogzoo> Rocito: install a different keyboard set
[12:56] <bimberi> surface: i'm really not sure sorry
[12:56] <surface> bimberi, do u know the way to rebuild the cache?
[12:56] <wizo> what do i ook out for when the ./configure asks me to look at config.log ?
[12:56] <wizo> how do i identify errors?
[12:56] <bimberi> surface: sudo apt-get update
[12:56] <Rocito> frogzoo . .. how?
[12:56] <rasputnik> stefg: isn't that built in? There's a box you tick for 'print to file' in the print dialog.
[12:56] <surface> bimberi, haha, this is what i do and it do not resolve..., thanks anyway
[12:57] <frogzoo> Rocito: preferences -> keyboard
[12:57] <rasputnik> wizo: scroll up from the bottom. It dumps the environment at the end - above that is the error.
[12:57] <bimberi> surface: kk, sorry i wasn't much help :|
[12:57] <Rocito> thx frogzoo, should have thought of that
[12:57] <stylin_> how can i reconfigure network w/ same interface instalation ?
[12:58] <surface> bimberi, no problem, at least i know apt-cache is work fine at ur side...
[12:58] <taylor> how do i turn a jdk/jre bin into a deb file?
[12:58] <Crazysk8> hello
[12:58] <GreyGhost> the alternate install cd doesnt allow the regular installatiopn procedure?
[12:58] <Crazysk8> how do you add an user..? if i do it now i get:
[12:59] <Crazysk8> root@server1:~# su person
[12:59] <Crazysk8> sh-3.1$
[12:59] <Rocito> M0
[12:59] <bimberi> taylor: Ubuntu has Sun java 1.5 available in the multiverse repository
[12:59] <Crazysk8> and the user is already added, but not good i think
[12:59] <bimberi> GreyGhost: it has the classic text based installer
[01:00] <taylor> bimberi: that's update 8 which is *old*, i need update 10
[01:01] <bimberi> taylor: ah
[01:01] <stefg> rasputnik: i just checked... no way. I'd simply want to add a printer, but the wizard insists on configuring the Epson on USB, i don't get the option to choose an alternative. What do I miss here?
[01:02] <bimberi> taylor: you use the java-package package to do it.  The page on the Ubuntu wiki doesn't seem to describe the procedure any more, hopefully you can find a guide
[01:02] <rasputnik> stefg: in thunderbird/firefox/evince I choose file->print. it comes up with the print dialog. under 'properties' next to the printer list is a checkbox, 'print to file'.
[01:03] <GreyGhost> bimberi , i meant ... whther there is an option to get the newer (LiveCD thingy) installer with the alternate too.... cos i dont mind the text based one ... but maybe some of my friends may wwant cds with the livecd ....
[01:03] <taylor> -.-
[01:03] <bimberi> GreyGhost: do you mean from shipit
[01:03] <bimberi> ?
[01:03] <taylor> thanks for helping
 Rawplayer
 i have a windows 2003 server connected to another vpn server in site B and the vpn is working correctly.
 i can ping from site A windows 2003 all the servers on site B
 i want to allow now my clients in site A to ping the site B
 i am not able to do that
 i enabled NAT and dial on demand on windows 2003 site A
 the vpn is established but i can only ping from the windows 2003 site A
[01:03] <wizo> rasputnik, how would i know which is the error
[01:03] <wizo> rasputnik, i get errors ike error: C compiler cannot create executables
 clients on site A cant ping
[01:04] <stefg> rasputnik: yeah, but that's not necessarily Postscript... i need .ps for sending things with efax
[01:04] <frogzoo> ocx32: you're confused - this isn't for windows support
[01:04] <rasputnik> stefg: it prints a postscript file.
[01:04] <stefg> !cups
[01:04] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:04] <GreyGhost> bimberi , yeah ... but i have 6.10 .... heres what i mean .... is there an option to use the default installation method (the one from te livecd ....) even with the alternate install image?
[01:05] <rasputnik> wizo: you have to read the compiler errors, I'm afraid.
[01:05] <bimberi> GreyGhost: no, the Desktop CD has the live installer only and the Alternate CD has the text installer only
[01:05] <acjliliu> oq
[01:05] <GreyGhost> bimberi ,ok thanks :
[01:05] <GreyGhost> *:)
[01:06] <bimberi> GreyGhost: np :)
[01:06] <wizo> compiler errors?
[01:06] <acjliliu> ai eu sou portugues e neum entendo nada do q vcs falam
[01:06] <stefg> !pt
[01:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:07] <bimberi> taylor: this looks good - http://dinomite.net/archives/installing-sun-java-on-ubuntu
[01:08] <Crazysk8> (12:59:05) (Crazysk8) how do you add an user..? if i do it now i get:
[01:08] <Crazysk8> (12:59:05) (Crazysk8) root@server1:~# su person
[01:08] <Crazysk8> (12:59:05) (Crazysk8) sh-3.1$
[01:08] <apokryphos-> use adduser to add a user
[01:08] <rasputnik> bimberi: isn't the sun jdk available as a package now?
[01:08] <apokryphos-> or useradd
[01:08] <mnepton> Crazysk8: man adduser
[01:10] <bimberi> rasputnik: yes, but taylor is after a later revision
[01:10] <rasputnik> bimberi: oh, sorry - only half watching
[01:11] <[GuS] > Bonjour!
[01:11] <bimberi> rasputnik: np whatsoever :)
[01:11] <taylor> thanks for site
[01:13] <bimberi> taylor: yw, hopefully good
[01:15] <pibarnas> I can't install beryl for edgy amd64 in any source... could you give me one working, please??
[01:15] <rvalles> ps3 got released
[01:15] <rvalles> any thoughts in ubuntu for ps3?
[01:15] <rvalles> since it's a solid package (specs do not change everyday) and since it comes "linux-ready" or so sony says...
[01:16] <guillem101> pibarnas, deb http://ubuntu2.lupine.me.uk/ edgy main
[01:16] <rvalles> and the device will be in millions of hoses...
[01:16] <guillem101> pibarnas, use #ubuntu-xgl channel
 Okay, thank you!
[01:17] <emrik> I need a ftpserver easily configured from another computer, any suggestions?
[01:17] <guillem101> pibarnas, use latest nvidia drivers, as well
[01:17] <emrik> :O
[01:18] <taylor> bimberi; that site helped
[01:18] <taylor> thanks
[01:25] <wizo> hey, why dont i have the make command?
[01:25] <floris> not installed?
[01:25] <wizo> i installed gcc aready, what else do i have to do
[01:25] <stefg> !build | wizo
[01:25] <ubotu> wizo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:25] <mnepton> wizo: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:25] <vaineh> can someone tell me why i see "no video" where there should be video in firefox when ive installed mplayer plugin with codecs etc as well?
[01:26] <wizo> thanks
[01:26] <Randakar> vaineh: what site is that?
[01:28] <sh> hi all! Im  having a problem with my screensaver. My graphics card is  a bit wasted so it hangs if a certain screensaver  is shown. (I use xscrn saver, the one witch came with Ubuntu 6.06) So my question is, how can I change the default screensaver shown, without starting it, and without going throug preferences (hangs when showing the preview)???
[01:29] <graylion> is it a 3D one?
[01:29] <sh> yes, its the one with long bent straws glowing in the end
[01:30] <timo90> my ubuntu is really slow and takes ages on the splash creen
[01:30] <graylion> do you have a 3D driver for your graphics card installed?
[01:30] <timo90> i intalled the ati drivers it worked for some time the started all this
[01:30] <graylion> what syslog say?
[01:31] <Randakar> Anyone here who can help me solve https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/73966
[01:31] <timo90> graylion:please tell me what to do including how to get the system log
[01:31] <graylion> timo: i am talking to sh
[01:32] <graylion> and timo that is what google is for
[01:34] <Randakar> timo90: you may want to boot in recovery mode, see what is going on there
[01:34] <wizo> what do i have to apt-get to get Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0)
[01:34] <Ropechoborra> !paste
[01:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:34] <Randakar> wizo: shouldn't need to do anything
[01:35] <sh> yepp. Ive installed the nvidia drivers. think its a hardware prob with my graphics card. hangs in windows aswell from time to time, not while playing BF2 but when previewing images and such...
[01:35] <Randakar> wizo: just aptitude install whatever you need installed
[01:35] <wizo> hmm? oh, cause i installed server edition and flux
[01:35] <sh> What am I looking for in system log?
[01:35] <wizo> hmm
[01:35] <saintsjd> I am trying to run a qt-embedded application on Edgy but seeing the error "Can't open frame buffer device: driver cannot connect". Any ideas?
[01:35] <graylion> sh: some stuff to do with x. but it's only a wild idea
[01:36] <Randakar> wizo: apt-get installs everything required if you install something
[01:36] <Navyseal> hey all
[01:36] <wizo> ah yea, i was trying to compile from source
[01:36] <graylion> anybody have experience with promise raid adapters (fasttrack lite 100) and dapper?
[01:36] <Randakar> wizo: different kettle of fish
[01:36] <graylion> the thing so far is defeating me
[01:37] <wizo> but thanks anyway, Randakar
[01:37] <Randakar> wizo: apt-get build-dep <package> should do the trick
[01:37] <Navyseal> i have my pc in dual boot with winxp and edgy, now i want to get rid of winxp that's too heavy for my pc, and put win 2000. what can i do after the instalation to get the grub working?
[01:37] <Randakar> wizo: you also may want to try apt-get source --compile <package>
[01:38] <rohan> why is the ubuntu.com home page displaying chinese/japanese characters by default in the search box in the top right ?
[01:38] <graylion> navayseal: boot live cd, open a termianl, grub <devicename>
[01:38] <rohan> bug, or intended ?
[01:39] <Navyseal> graylion reinstall grub?
[01:39] <Randakar> feisty broke update-grub btw
[01:39] <rohan> any place where can i report bugs for the main website ?
[01:39] <Randakar> trying to figure out what's what with it - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/73966
[01:39] <graylion> pretty much. you need to overwrite the MBR
[01:39] <Navyseal> ok thks graylion
[01:39] <Randakar> rohan: I'd open a bug against ubuntu on the launchpad site
[01:40] <rohan> Randakar: ok, thanks
[01:40] <Navyseal> is there any program of visual basic?
[01:40] <Navyseal> for ubuntu of course
[01:40] <rohan> Navyseal: try gambas, it is pretty close to visual basic
[01:40] <Navyseal> i already tryed
[01:40] <rohan> ah, ok
[01:40] <Randakar> Navyseal: do you need VB, or just some easy to learn language that does everything VB does?
[01:41] <Navyseal> the program that is in repos is bad compiled, only gives error's
[01:41] <rohan> Randakar: what would you suggest, for the latter option ?
[01:41] <Navyseal> Randakar need something like visual studio express
[01:41] <Randakar> Ah, point and click
[01:41] <rohan> Navyseal: report the error in gambas on bugs.ubuntu.com ?
[01:41] <Randakar> dunno really, I avoid programs like that ;-)
[01:42] <Navyseal> lol
[01:42] <Navyseal> rohan nop
[01:42] <Navyseal> Randakar i do the oposite :x
[01:43] <Navyseal> can anyone help me to install my tv card?
[01:44] <YU7XW> Hello!
[01:44] <YU7XW> I need some small help about using/installing....etc ubuntu (i hope that i made right choice)
[01:44] <rohan> YU7XW: you made the right choice ? :D
[01:44] <Navyseal> it's a pixelview play pro tv ultra chipset Conexant CX23880
[01:44] <stefg> Navyseal: analog or DVB-/T/S/C
[01:44] <YU7XW> TNX
[01:45] <rohan> YU7XW: well, let me tell you, you made the best available choice, imo
[01:45] <Randakar> Navyseal: Maybe you can try KDevelop or Eclipse, but frankly I don't know if they do VB
[01:45] <YU7XW> what the questions are> I am developing some hardware with PIC micros...thats not so much important, but  my friend need to write a C++ program on PC
[01:45] <Navyseal> stefg how do i know that?
[01:45] <YU7XW> in electronics, we call that SCADA software
[01:45] <Navyseal> Randakar ok thks
[01:45] <Randakar> Anyone know where the dev's hang out? I need a bug fixed ;-)
[01:46] <YU7XW> first, we started in Borland C++ under window$. It worked nice. I have the same controls, but for Linux. My friend told me that ubuntu is OK package for me, because i need later to install that PC into factory
[01:46] <YU7XW> where people dont know anything about computers.... thats why i need stable system :)
[01:47] <stefg> Navyseal: Let me put it different: Define 'TV' for your country.. Do you get numbers or voltage out of your TV-socket :-) ?
[01:47] <YU7XW> Ive jsut installed ubuntu and - what next? what c++ IDE, where to take a l0ok etc....
[01:47] <Navyseal> stefg it's works with cable and antenna, not with satellite
[01:47] <timo90> im a bit busy please wait 4 me
[01:47] <Randakar> YU7XW: for C++ KDevelop will probably be the closest to what you want
[01:47] <pty> YU7XW: also anjuta?
[01:48] <YU7XW> Ive just put to download anjuta
[01:48] <rohan> yes, anjuta is great too
[01:48] <stefg> Navyseal: so lets assume you got analog TV...
[01:48] <Navyseal> ok
[01:49] <stefg> Does lspci show your card? Does dmesg report a frontend for your card to be set up?
[01:49] <Navyseal> lspci shows
[01:49] <YU7XW> Now, please, is ubuntu OK for such application? The idea is that i have a few pumps, placed in the city, controlled by small hardware. That hardware is connected vit radio-data modem to base unit and base unit is with serial port to PC
[01:49] <Navyseal> lspci -> 00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[01:50] <incorrect> my friends company wants all the good stuff of NAT/ open vpn, however is too scare to use it because if i die then no one will be able to fix the boxes
[01:50] <Navyseal> dmesg too -> [17179606.656000]  cx88[0] :    card=27 -> PixelView PlayTV Ultra Pro (Stereo)
[01:51] <Byro1> hello there
[01:51] <Navyseal> stefg ^
[01:51] <graylion> YU7XW: yes. needs a bit of work though and you might want to use a real time kernel
[01:51] <IdleOne> incorrect,  thats incorrect  before you die you will teach your friend
[01:51] <gnube> web is the best way to add a system user like 'subversion' safely?
[01:51] <incorrect> IdleOne: they are too stupid to learn,
[01:52] <IdleOne> incorrect,  then you make sure they know how to get here and ask for help :)
[01:52] <YU7XW> actually, the pc is only supervisor, my base unit is controlling everything (thats idea of SCADA - if pc hangs - system must not fail!)
[01:52] <Byro1> when i look into the "computer" i get links to my filesystem as well to my floppy drives, however, i've got 2 floppy drives, whil i physically have only one, I have "floppy" and "floppy drvie", the latter works, but i want to get rid of "floppy", how do i do this?
[01:52] <incorrect> now i either need an amazingly easy re-install
[01:52] <YU7XW> what about kubuntu? i saw that there is kdevelop in it already
[01:52] <incorrect> maybe i could create some usb drives
[01:52] <Navyseal> stefg [17179606.656000]  cx88[0] : Your board has no valid PCI Subsystem ID and thus can't
[01:52] <Navyseal> [17179606.656000]  cx88[0] : be autodetected.  Please pass card=<n> insmod option to
[01:52] <Navyseal> [17179606.656000]  cx88[0] : workaround that.  Redirect complaints to the vendor of
[01:52] <Navyseal> [17179606.656000]  cx88[0] : the TV card.  Best regards,
[01:52] <Navyseal> [17179606.656000]  cx88[0] :         -- tux
[01:52] <Navyseal> :/
[01:52] <defrysk> !paste | Navyseal
[01:52] <ubotu> Navyseal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:53] <Zaggynl> When I use the 'Screen Resolution' tool from the Gnome menu, I can only select a 50 or 54 Hz Refresh Rate, this is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/268188
[01:53] <IdleOne> YU7XW,  you can install all KDE packages on ubuntu they work well
[01:53] <Zaggynl> I'm pretty clueless on what to do :/
[01:53] <defrysk> Zaggynl, got the latest nvidia installed ?
[01:53] <Zaggynl> yep
[01:53] <YU7XW> ok.....thanks for info....afterall, i am engineer in electronics, not in computing :)
[01:53] <defrysk> Zaggynl,  go to nvidia-settings
[01:54] <defrysk> its handled from there now
[01:54] <YU7XW> will try anjuta
[01:54] <Zaggynl> defrysk, sweet!
[01:54] <defrysk> is should be on automatic there
[01:54] <defrysk> no probs
[01:54] <stefg> Navyseal: as i found out, you've got a DVB-T card, so that's digital.. http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-97613.html might be an interesting read for you
[01:55] <Byro1> when i look into the "computer" i get links to my filesystem as well to my floppy drives, however, i've got 2 floppy drives, whil i physically have only one, I have "floppy" and "floppy drvie", the latter works, but i want to get rid of "floppy", how do i do this?
[01:56] <Navyseal> hum stefg
[01:56] <Navyseal> ?? ubuntu
[01:57] <ufk> hiya
[01:57] <ufk> is there an apache 2.2 package for ubuntu ?
[01:57] <iye> hi
[01:57] <ufk> hi
[01:58] <crimeboy> what the patchs used in ubuntu kernel?
[01:58] <IdleOne> how do I search for a specific version of a package with term?
[01:59] <Navyseal> stefg what do i have to do? didn't understood :s
[01:59] <marcin_ant> !uuid
[01:59] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:00] <Xzyx987X> hey, is there a replacement for the default service manager that comes with gnome?
[02:00] <Xzyx987X> I seem to recall fedora had it's own manager, which was a but more fully featured, but I'm not sure if it's availible on other distros
[02:01] <Navyseal> change kernel stefg ?
[02:01] <Xzyx987X> huh?
[02:02] <stefg> Navyseal: the card is already halfinstalled, it's just that due to a design flaw the card isn't auto-configurable in Linux, so you need to tell the driver, which card it is. Then you get a device in /dev/dvb/adapter0 and can use kaffeine, vlc or gxine to watch TV... kaffeine is prolly easiest, because it can scan the channels automatically
[02:02] <Engrish> argh...bloody hell..it's bad media
[02:04] <solevita> hi   i've got a question..    does anybody know where i can find graphiccarddrivers?
[02:04] <Navyseal> stefg doesn't exists any tutorial? :S
[02:05] <IdleOne> solevita,  need more details. what card? make and model
[02:06] <Engrish> doow: thanks for your help but it seem to be a bad media
[02:06] <Doow> Engrish: ok =(
[02:06] <solevita> IdleOne       yeah nice question     I'd better figure that out BEFORE asking for a driver :-D          sorry for disturbing ;)
[02:07] <Doow> Engrish: did you try instlinux?
[02:07] <Randakar> solevita: hold a sec
[02:07] <Engrish> don't know how to use it...plus it's for a spare computer
[02:07] <Randakar> solevita: First of all, 'drivers' are supposed to be part of either X or the linux kernel, not seperate downloads
[02:08] <Engrish> anyway i'll return later if i got another spare computer to play with
[02:08] <solevita> IdleOne , Randakar           so..  the card is an ATI Radeon 9250
[02:09] <Randakar> solevita: Ok, does the card work? As in, do you have a desktop to start with?
[02:11] <osfameron> AARRRRGHHH!
[02:11] <osfameron> OOo is embarrassingly bad, still
[02:11] <osfameron> ubuntu is shiny, free software is shiny.  Why can't we have an office suite that doesn't suck?
[02:11] <frflame> hi
[02:12] <frflame> i want to ask something
[02:12] <frflame> now
[02:12] <frflame> erm
[02:12] <frflame> does ubuntu come with GRUBS?
[02:12] <frflame> I need the grubs
[02:12] <glaz> yes
[02:12] <frflame> maann I love the grubbs
[02:12] <frflame> D:
[02:12] <frflame> :P
[02:12] <solevita> Randakar    yes,   it works        BUT I got the feeling that the driver isn't configured right     or something..         lately I installed the KDE stuff      but as i wanted to try the transparency stuff for the window behaving settings   the computer says this: Composite extension not found
[02:12] <frflame> ;p
[02:12] <solevita> You must use XOrg  6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.
[02:12] <solevita> Additionally, you need to add a new section to your X config file:
[02:12] <solevita> Section "Extensions"
[02:12] <solevita> Option "Composite" "Enable"
[02:12] <solevita> EndSection
[02:13] <Randakar> solevita: that's straightforward advice
[02:13] <renzo17> lo
[02:13] <Randakar> solevita: trouble is, you have a driver, but not the proprietary one
[02:13] <solevita> Randakar:   aha!
[02:14] <Randakar> solevita: the X config file can be found in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:14] <solevita> Randakar:   then let me take a look ;)
[02:14] <Randakar> solevita: you can add those lines to enable the composite extension there, _but_ it doesn't neccesarily work without the non-free driver
[02:15] <caliga> how can i see my memory clock speed? is that somewhere in /proc?
[02:15] <caliga> lupine_85: nothing there...
[02:16] <matiseijas> hello... i've been trying to update ubuntu since yesterday with the method ' gksu "update-manager -c" ' and I can't... i get the following message:  " The application 'gksu' (/usr/bin/gksu) wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked. Enter password for default keyring to unlock " ... what should i do here? If i enter my sudo password it won't work...it must be another one...
[02:16] <caliga> lupine_85: modern you-cannot-damage-anything-BIOS ;)
[02:16] <Randakar> matiseijas: it's a password you added yourself .. tried just pressing 'enter'?
[02:16] <lupine_85> matiseijas: it's the password that you gave to the keyring when you created it
[02:16] <glaz> matiseijas: try sudo update-manager -c
[02:17] <lupine_85> caliga: should still be in there... somewhere... or on the POST screen
[02:17] <Randakar> glaz: that's not going to work from within X
[02:17] <Randakar> matiseijas: try 'gksudo' instead ;-)
[02:17] <lupine_85> I can't see anything in /proc right now
[02:17] <glaz> it works for me.
[02:17] <lupine_85> lol
[02:17] <Randakar> caliga: maybe look at the output of the 'dmesg' command
[02:17] <lupine_85> gui -> gksudo. Really.
[02:17] <matiseijas> yes! it worked! thank you all!
[02:18] <glaz> im not used to gksu*
[02:18] <lupine_85> mm, it's so hard to use :p
[02:18] <glaz> its like trying to switch from vi to nano.
[02:18] <Randakar> matiseijas: if you use 'gksu' you need to give the 'root' password, if you use 'gksudo' you need to use your own password
[02:18] <glaz> kinda impossible when you're used to something.
[02:18] <solevita> Randakar:    it's a bit embarresing but I can't find the xorg file   :(
[02:18] <matiseijas> oh!! i see... i get it now... thx
[02:19] <caliga> lupine_85: not sure i can deactivate spalsh to see POST...
[02:19] <caliga> Randakar: k
[02:19] <Randakar> solevita: try running 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:22] <brynk> hi, dumb question, how can i check the size of my swap partition?
[02:22] <solevita> Randakar:  yeah! now i understand!    thanks a lot!
[02:23] <IdleOne> whats the command to force open the cd-rom?
[02:23] <nolimitsoya> IdleOne, eject
[02:23] <IdleOne> cd /hammer/media/cdrom/open-MOFO right?
[02:24] <IdleOne> :P
[02:24] <Randakar> solevita: you're welcome :-)
[02:24] <nolimitsoya> IdleOne, more like 'eject <path>'
[02:25] <IdleOne> nolimitsoya,  Thank you that was simple enough
[02:25] <Randakar> brynk: not sure really ;-)
[02:25] <bubi> hi, im trying to write a shell script, my problem is i cant get the output, for example ifconfig | grep 10.1.10 gives me the HOLE line, but all i need is 10.1.10.xx  how can i do this ?
[02:26] <fenris> hi
[02:26] <Randakar> brynk: you could take a gander at /proc/meminfo. MemTotal would be your RAM + any swap space
[02:26] <glaz> bubi: use awk
[02:26] <bubi> glaz: i try..thx
[02:26] <glaz> ifconfig | grep 10.1.10 | awk print '{ $2 }'
[02:27] <glaz> if IP is 2nd word
[02:27] <Randakar> bubi: 'cut' would be the utility you want to use
[02:27] <brynk> Randakar: thanks, i also just noticed the swap size is listed using top
[02:27] <bubi> glaz: yeah but syntax error
[02:27] <fenris> can anyone tell me which version of xchat is in dapper? i have dapper and got xchat 2.6.1, but i know of someone else who has 2.6.6...
[02:27] <Randakar> ifconfig | grep 'inet addr' | cut -d ":" -f 2 | cut -d " " -f 1
[02:28] <nolimitsoya> fenris, 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[02:28] <glaz> awk rocks cut.
[02:28] <Randakar> brynk: :-)
[02:28] <glaz> awk > cut
[02:28] <nolimitsoya> fenris, if that does fix it, enable the backports repo :)
[02:28] <nolimitsoya> fenris, if it still isnt fixed, youll need to install in manualy.
[02:28] <Randakar> glaz: cut is a few hundred times easier to understand
[02:28] <Randakar> glaz: when you reach for AWK, I reach for PERL ;-)
[02:28] <bubi> thank you both... im trying it
[02:29] <glaz> yeah, do you prefer easy to learn or reliable to use ?
[02:29] <glaz> :]
[02:29] <anders__> hello, i'm trying to play enemy territory on ubuntu 6.10 i386, i have installed the game and i have tried to start the game, but it only manages to set screen resolution to very low, then fails with: "GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL" all i have found using google was a german site and i don't speak german :-(
[02:29] <nolimitsoya> anders__, what graphics card drivers are you using?
[02:29] <glaz> anders__: what video card you have?
[02:29] <Randakar> glaz: cut is reliable enough for simple things
[02:29] <glaz> Randakar true that.
[02:30] <glaz> Randakar: but i think when i started using linux cut didnt exist, so i got used to awk
[02:30] <glaz> which is pretty accurate
[02:30] <Randakar> glaz: hm, cut is quite old you know ;-)
[02:31] <glaz> im quite older i guess!
[02:31] <solevita> anders__ : do you still have the link?  i speak german and have the same problem  (maybe i can even explain the what to do ;) )
[02:31] <bubi> Randakar , glaz : hmm im trying it with cut.. :) it looks easier :D
[02:31] <Randakar> solevita: your problem is lack of openGL support in your video driver ;-)
[02:32] <fenris> nolimitsoya: ok, enabling the backports did it, thx
[02:32] <glaz> solevita: get nvidia-glx install and switch nv to nvidia in xorg.conf
[02:32] <nolimitsoya> fenris, np :)
[02:32] <Randakar> bubi: when you get a bit further, learn regular expressions. Perl or sed, doesn't matter, but regular expressions are the power drill of the unix command line
[02:32] <Randakar> glaz: solevita has an ATI card ;-)
[02:32] <solevita> Randakar:     no, that's not it..  'cause on the box here it says:  that it DOES have Open GL     and some more stuff.. but tv-out and all that is not my thing
[02:32] <glaz> damn i must go to sleep i red nvidia :/
[02:32] <Rodietze> hey dudes, do u know a good sql backend that runs on UBuntu?
[02:33] <bubi> Randakar: im just trying, i dont realy want to do something complex but i will remember :)(
[02:33] <Randakar> solevita: Your card supports it, the driver just doesn't know how to enable it
[02:33] <solevita> glaz: :-D
[02:33] <anders__> nolimitsoya: nv driver in xorg.conf
[02:33] <Rodietze> I mean MS SQL server backend so that I can administrate a remote database
[02:33] <glaz> solevita: dont consider what i said.
[02:33] <glaz> i tough you had a good video card :]
[02:33] <solevita> Randakar:   I see..
[02:33] <anders__> solevita: great! yes it is http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/archive/index.php/t-162443.html
[02:34] <nolimitsoya> anders__, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config'
[02:34] <solevita> :-D   it's not the best videocard    but it's not bad ;)
[02:34] <nolimitsoya> anders__, cut and paste that to a terminal
[02:34] <glaz> nv > ati
[02:34] <interskh> hi! does anyone here install Altera Quartus6? i have some problems
[02:35] <Ritzzo> hi
[02:35] <anders__> nolimitsoya: nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[02:35] <nolimitsoya> anders__, yes, but is nvidia-glx-config run?
[02:36] <Ritzzo> anyone have problems with ps/2 mouse on laptop ? i cant configure it and touchpad works fine but i need mouse
[02:37] <interskh> command "bindkey" does not exist in csh, but the install needs it
[02:37] <glaz> Randakar: i just started using ubuntu yesterday tho..
[02:37] <interskh> and i found "bindkey" is available in freebsd
[02:37] <lewyjh> is there anywhere where i can get a list of drivers i need? most importantly for my network card and cd drive? heh heh
[02:38] <glaz> lewyjh: what is your network card ?
[02:39] <solevita> anders__ : the ichunddu guy says that GLX and the composite-option don't work together..     that guy with the problem had recompiled his xorg file..
[02:39] <interskh> what can i do now?
[02:40] <solevita> anders__ :  but that doesn't makes me any smarter :-D   rather more confused :-
[02:40] <frying_fish> Ritzzo: was ps2 mouse plugged in before boot?
[02:40] <Randakar> glaz: So what did you use before? other linuxes?
[02:40] <glaz> Randakar: nah, free/open BSD
[02:40] <lewyjh> glaz, well, linux device manager says its...uhh...BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g
[02:41] <Randakar> solevita: Look for a set of ATI driver installation instructions on the net
[02:41] <frying_fish> don't need that with ubuntu
[02:41] <frying_fish> there is a packaged ati driver in linux-restricted-modules
[02:41] <apsuva> how to change splash screen?
[02:41] <frying_fish> !ati
[02:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:41] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: i never use. touchpad works fine and i see if psmouse module is on, and its is. then change xorg.conf for imps2 and devide mouse0 psaux mice mouse tts0 and don work this mouse :(
[02:41] <frying_fish> or look there for it.
[02:41] <Randakar> glaz: Ah, BSD. Respectable, but misguided ;-)
[02:42] <frying_fish> Ritzzo: needs to be connected before start up
[02:42] <frying_fish> ps2 kit isn't hotpluggable from what I remember
[02:42] <glaz> Randakar: and not desktop oriented
[02:42] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: is connected
[02:42] <frying_fish> Ritzzo: reboot the machine.
[02:42] <frying_fish> see if it works then.
[02:42] <solevita> Randakar:   I'm on it ;)
[02:42] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: i do many times
[02:42] <Randakar> frying_fish: thanks, I was wondering if there was a question bot around ;-)
[02:42] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: and dont work
[02:42] <Xzyx987X> anyone know how to add a service to the service list in gnome's service manager? I installed tor, but it didn't get put on the list
[02:42] <frying_fish> Ritzzo: reboot, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:42] <frying_fish> and see if that helps configure it.
[02:43] <apsuva> help me pls. how to change splash screen?
[02:43] <Randakar> solevita: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:43] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: i do :D sorry and dont help me
[02:43] <Xzyx987X> or if there's a better ubuntu service manager I'm open to suggestions
[02:43] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: i think i go compile kernel and see
[02:43] <frying_fish> Ritzzo: does it show up anywhere? recompiling the kernel most likely won't help
[02:43] <lewyjh> should i just google a pacage of ati drivers?
[02:44] <frying_fish> can you detect the input from the mouse anywhere in the system.
[02:44] <frying_fish> lewyjh: no, look at the following link:
[02:44] <frying_fish> !ati
[02:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: i dont understant the last sentence
[02:44] <anders__> nolimitsoya: $ sudo /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config enable says "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel." but i have installed nvidia-glx...
[02:44] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: i know but see the support of mouse
[02:44] <Ritzzo> y havent conf of linux-image here
[02:45] <frying_fish> Ritzzo: so it shows somewhere on the system. i.e. it is there with lspci or the approrpiate command
[02:45] <lewyjh> frying_fish, i need a driver for my wireless network card, not my video card.
[02:45] <frying_fish> so why are you after an ati driver?
[02:45] <wijnand> where did the menu editor go that i had in dapper? ever since i upgraded to edgy i can't find it anymore...
[02:46] <frying_fish> and the "driver" for your wireless card will either be in the kernel or not (so you don't need to download it) if it isn't, then you will most likely need ndiswrapper and the windows "driver" for it.
[02:46] <nolimitsoya> anders__, 'sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-'uname -r'
[02:46] <anders__> solevita: yeah, same here..
[02:46] <lewyjh> i have no idea, i was only asking if someone could point me in the direction of a driver for this device...BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g
[02:46] <frying_fish> wijnand: system->preferences->menu layout
[02:46] <apsuva> i m downloaded this splash screen = http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=39874 but how to install splash screen
[02:46] <nolimitsoya> anders__, sorry, 'sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`'
[02:47] <frying_fish> lewyjh: if it has detected it as that from some command in linux already then it is working.
[02:47] <anders__> nolimitsoya: thanks, but i get "E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.17-10-generic"
[02:48] <anders__> nolimitsoya: i'm doing something wrong(?)
[02:48] <rambo3> php5-curl borken package , can anyone confirm this?
[02:48] <Randakar> apsuva: interesting stuff, no clue how to install that. Maybe somebody on #gnome knows ..
[02:48] <nolimitsoya> !headers
[02:48] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[02:48] <lewyjh> frying_fish that's what its detected as in "device manager"
[02:48] <apsuva> thanks r0bby
[02:48] <apsuva> ups
[02:49] <apsuva> thanks Randakar
[02:49] <nolimitsoya> anders__, ah, they might still be called linux-headers for you. :) running dapper?
[02:49] <frying_fish> lewyjh: in which case it has already found it and you don't need a driver.
[02:49] <bubi> hmm how can i redirect the output to an array ? cat dump | grep 10.1 | cut -d " " -f 4 | cut -d ":" -f 1 > ${hosts[@] } doesnt work :(
[02:49] <nolimitsoya> anders__, try 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`' instead
[02:49] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: well dmesg only show touchpad, but this laptop use mouse on windows without problems. convencional mouse
[02:49] <lewyjh> frying_fish, damnit...i wish i had an easy button to get wireless internet.
[02:49] <Randakar> bubi: an array?
[02:50] <shoman> hello all
[02:50] <Randakar> bubi: no such things as 'arrays' in shell programming ;-)
[02:50] <frying_fish> lewyjh: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[02:50] <shoman> I have a question ..if anybody help then It will be really appreciated
[02:50] <frying_fish> Ritzzo: ok, then you need to find its event location, and make sure you are using that for the mouse in xorg
[02:50] <Ritzzo> mdetect show psuax intelligmouse
[02:50] <frying_fish> and set it to imps2
[02:50] <bubi> Randakar: hmm dont know the english name.. in C it is variable[10]  then you have 10 variables variable[0]  variable[1] ....
[02:50] <Randakar> bubi: what you just did directed the output to a file
[02:50] <shoman> ANYBODY
[02:50] <Randakar> shoman: ask
[02:51] <shoman> OK thank YOU
[02:51] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: on xorg.conf i put ImPS/2
[02:51] <frying_fish> do you have the correct input event
[02:51] <Ritzzo> device?
[02:51] <frying_fish> not the correct type, the correct /dev place for it
[02:51] <frying_fish> probably /dev/mouse or something.
[02:51] <shoman> actually I have a problem that my monitor is  bit old
[02:51] <bubi> Randakar: hm i have filtered 10 ips know i want to mount them in a loop, but to do this i need them in an variable...
[02:52] <Chousuke> ash has arrays
[02:52] <shoman> and its not showing any other resolution than 640*480
[02:52] <Chousuke> er
[02:52] <Chousuke> bash*
[02:52] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: /dev/mouse dont exist
[02:52] <anders__> nolimitsoya: running edgy i386
[02:52] <shoman> when installing ubuntu
[02:52] <frying_fish> Ritzzo: thats why I said "or something"
[02:52] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: but /dev7input/mouse0 yes and put but dont work
[02:52] <frying_fish> you need to find the correct one.
[02:52] <Ash-Fox> Help, I have arrays!
[02:52] <shoman> so I want to install through some command ??
[02:52] <shoman> IS THERE ANY?
[02:52] <lewyjh> frying_fish, that's a program right?
[02:52] <Ash-Fox> !apt-get
[02:52] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:52] <frying_fish> become root and do evtest /dev/input/mouse0 and move the mouse, see if it does anything.
[02:52] <frying_fish> lewyjh: yeah, for easy network management for wireless.
[02:53] <lewyjh> where do i find it once i installed it?
[02:53] <Chousuke> but redirecting to arrays is not possible.
[02:53] <lewyjh> i just did...
[02:53] <lewyjh> heh heh
[02:53] <Chousuke> redirection only works for files.
[02:53] <frying_fish> lewyjh: re-login to you session
[02:53] <frying_fish> and see if a little applet shows in the panel
[02:53] <frying_fish> if not, run nm-applet
[02:53] <lewyjh> or just do a killall gnome-panel?
[02:53] <frying_fish> and then close it, log out and log back in
[02:53] <shoman> Randakar: ?????
[02:53] <anders__> nolimitsoya: runnning "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" outputs "linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic is already the newest version."
[02:53] <frying_fish> it might need to bre at the start of a session.
[02:54] <frying_fish> anders__: the problem isn't that you don't have the headers.
[02:54] <Ritzzo> frying_fish: evtest?
[02:54] <frying_fish> tests the event
[02:54] <frying_fish> or just cat it Ritzzo
[02:54] <shoman> Randakar: YOU THERE
[02:54] <frying_fish> should get some garbled stuff coming out to the terminal.
[02:54] <bubi> shoman: you dont want the graphical installer
[02:54] <frying_fish> shoman: stop shouting.
[02:54] <bubi> shoman : right ?
[02:54] <shoman> yyeah I dont want the GUI installer
[02:54] <lewyjh> frying_fish, once i do re-log where will it be? ha
[02:55] <LeanCalPer> join #ubuntu-lat
[02:55] <frying_fish> in the panel
[02:55] <bubi> shoman: then take the alternate cd....
[02:55] <frying_fish> it will be some computer type thing.
[02:55] <lewyjh> but where? under apps places or system?
[02:55] <bubi> shoman: or the dvd
[02:55] <frying_fish> click on it, see if it sees anything for wireless
[02:55] <Randakar> back
[02:55] <Chousuke> bubi: if you can save the IPs you qant to mount into a single variable, separated by spaces, you can use "for ip in $variable; do; something; done"
[02:55] <shoman> lol from where...
[02:55] <frying_fish> no, an applet in the panel
[02:55] <playa> How do i mount NTFS partition and access tthem without getting "Permission denied"
[02:55] <frying_fish> not under amenu.
[02:55] <shoman> its comes with bootable CD
[02:55] <frying_fish> directly on the panel itself
[02:55] <frying_fish> like the clock
[02:55] <lewyjh> oh, its those two computers...
[02:55] <lewyjh> that blink.
[02:55] <frying_fish> maybe
[02:55] <frying_fish> probably not actually
[02:55] <Ritzzo> i hate this
[02:55] <bubi> shoman: hmm you are not trying to install ubuntu ?
[02:56] <Ritzzo> i understant waht happend
[02:56] <frying_fish> thats possibly the default one that is has, that isn't the right thing.
[02:56] <Ritzzo> arf
[02:56] <FreeNet> hi guys!!! i love Ubuntu!
[02:56] <lewyjh> oh...good because i already have that thing.
[02:56] <shoman> I'm trying but I couldnt get through because of resolution
[02:56] <frying_fish> you want the one that looks similar, but is different
[02:56] <DARKGuy> Mornin' :)
[02:56] <frying_fish> get rid of that first one from your panel anyway
[02:56] <frying_fish> you don't need it with this other one
[02:56] <bubi> Chousuke, hmm i can save them in a file so it should work with a variable either
[02:56] <bubi> shoman: then download the ubuntu image from a mirror
[02:56] <Randakar> shoman: sorry, I'm at work so may stop responding at any time ;-)
[02:56] <anders__> frying_fish: ok, then what is the problem?
[02:57] <shoman> I have downloaded as well
[02:57] <frying_fish> anders__: lsmod | grep nvidia
[02:57] <shoman> but you are not telling me the command ?
[02:57] <frying_fish> see if that pulls up the nvidia thing
[02:57] <Chousuke> bubi: well, you can just read the file line by line or something
[02:57] <anders__> frying_fish: no output :S
[02:57] <shoman> if there any
[02:57] <frying_fish> it would also help if you are in X and running it using the nvidia driver
[02:57] <Chousuke> bubi: or save to a variable
[02:57] <Randakar> shoman: the command to do what?
[02:57] <bubi> shoman: then download the ALTERNATE cd... it has such an installer
[02:57] <Chousuke> bubi: there are many ways to do that.
[02:57] <frying_fish> if you don't have the nvidia driver loaded, then thats why its giving you that error.
[02:57] <shoman> to Install UBUNTU
[02:57] <bubi> Chousuke:  hmm i try,
[02:57] <anders__> frying_fish: so strange because i am in gnome now with 1440x900 res or something
[02:57] <frying_fish> shoman: stop using caps lock, and listen to the sensible advice.
[02:58] <frying_fish> anders__: you could be using nv
[02:58] <anders__> frying_fish: and in xorg.conf i have set "nv" for driver
[02:58] <Randakar> shoman: frying fish is probably right :-)
[02:58] <shoman> yeah yeah I'm trying ok...so dont shout
[02:58] <frying_fish> anders__: yeah you have the wrong driver
[02:58] <anders__> frying_fish: oh i thought nv was correct
[02:58] <frying_fish> you don't want "nv" you want "nvidia"
[02:58] <nolimitsoya> anders__, did you run nvidia-glx-config as i asked you? did you restart x?
[02:58] <bubi> shoman: the normal ubuntu image has only an graphic installer.... the alternate also got an console gui
[02:58] <frying_fish> thats why the nvidia-glx-config wasn't working.
[02:58] <anders__> frying_fish: i don't know the difference
[02:58] <user-land> How can i change permissions so i can write to my new external USB harddisk partition ?
[02:58] <anders__> nolimitsoya: yes but it failed to start
[02:58] <Randakar> anders__: I have two entries for 'device' in xorg.conf, one with 'nv' and one with 'nvidia' driver
[02:58] <FreeNet> guys does ubuntu use "rpm" excutable?
[02:59] <lewyjh> hey frying_fish, i got that applet...it can't detect any network devices...
[02:59] <frying_fish> anders__: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the :%s/nv/nvidia/
[02:59] <frying_fish> and save.
[02:59] <jrib> FreeNet: no, it uses deb
[02:59] <Randakar> FreeNet: No, but you can install them anyway using alien or RPM
[02:59] <frogzoo> !alien | FreeNet
[02:59] <ubotu> FreeNet: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:59] <frying_fish> lewyjh: right click, select enable wireless
[02:59] <anders__> frying_fish: will do
[02:59] <frying_fish> oh, hang on, did you have stuff set in /etc/network/interfaces for the wireless card?
[02:59] <frying_fish> as if so it may not work
[02:59] <lewyjh> frying_fish, no option.
[02:59] <frying_fish> !network-manager
[02:59] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:59] <frying_fish> have a look at that wiki
[02:59] <frying_fish> it should help
[03:00] <frying_fish> anders__: be careful with that vim command, incase it messes up something other things, basically just change nv for nvidia where it is used
[03:00] <anders__> frying_fish: yes i'm aware
[03:00] <user-land>  /media/usb1 is owned by root, how can i change its permissions ?
[03:00] <lewyjh> yeah, thanks frying_fish. seriously, your the only one so far that's acctually helped me at all on this channel haha
[03:00] <frying_fish> user-land: by being root.....
[03:00] <playa> Has anyone an idea why sound works, though volume and recording doesn't?
[03:01] <anders__> frying_fish: should i restart x now and try running  nvidia-glx-config again?
[03:01] <frying_fish> anders__: yes
[03:01] <user-land> what command, frying_fish ?
[03:01] <frying_fish> although, you shouldn't need to
[03:01] <frying_fish> user-land: to become root? or to change the permissions,
[03:01] <Randakar> lewyjh: hey, I'm also here to get something fixed, but so far I've only ended up answering questions ;-)
[03:01] <user-land> to change the permissions, frying_fish.
[03:01] <frying_fish> user-land: do you want it owned by your user? with its current permissions?
[03:02] <frying_fish> if so: sudo chown -R USER:GROUP /meda/usb1
[03:02] <FreeNet> ok thanks... i'll take a look at RPM.. but if let's say when i surf the net and wants to download some program for linux... what kind shd i go for? TarGz? Deb? RPM?
[03:02] <user-land> i would like every computer i connect it to to be able to write to it.
[03:02] <frying_fish> user-land: thats dependent on the computer
[03:02] <frying_fish> not the usb disk
[03:02] <snail> user-land: read the man page for mount
[03:02] <Randakar> FreeNet: Go for adding more channels to /etc/apt/sources.list :-)
[03:03] <anurag_> does any knows any specifc proxie for irc and client
[03:03] <frying_fish> FreeNet: deb
[03:03] <Randakar> FreeNet: That way stuff keeps auto-updating when new releases go out
[03:03] <bubi> Randakar : look query plz.. for a sec if you have time :)
[03:03] <Randakar> bubi: query?
[03:03] <user-land> owned by my user, yes, frying_fish.
[03:03] <FreeNet> ok... good thanks. I am considering install Avast 4 Linux Home Edition onto my ubuntu
[03:03] <bubi> Randakar: private chat :)
[03:04] <user-land> snail, i want it to mount automatically
[03:04] <frying_fish> user-land: that is computer dependent! if you plug it into another computer, the permissions on its system will have to be set
[03:04] <Randakar> bubi: sorry, haven't seen anything
[03:04] <Randakar> bubi: too much scrolling I guess :-)
[03:04] <frying_fish> especially if that user has a different name on that system
[03:04] <user-land> frying_fish, how can i set the permissions so i can write to it now ?
[03:05] <frying_fish> but, the command I gave you will set it to the right ones for now
[03:05] <frying_fish> user-land: I already gave you the command.
[03:05] <bubi> Randakar: :) it should be a window but, just look at this http://www.tech-recipes.com/bourne_shell_scripting_tips636.html  this is what i want. :)
[03:06] <raskar> plop
[03:06] <KenSentMe> Is there a cli tool to convert .ods files (openoffice) to ms Excel's .xls extension?
[03:06] <Randakar> bubi: ah, I see
[03:07] <frying_fish> KenSentMe: no
[03:07] <Randakar> bubi: so far I've never actually needed shell arrays for anything ;-)
[03:07] <KenSentMe> frying_fish: ok :)
[03:07] <raskar> go perf #-saint- sur quakenet
[03:07] <DARKGuy> Yay! new nvidia drivers! :D
[03:07] <frying_fish> KenSentMe: unfortunately.
[03:07] <DARKGuy> Bug fix! :D
[03:07] <Randakar> bubi: but I must admit, if it gets too complicated I revert to perl ;-)
[03:07] <frying_fish> DARKGuy: in l-r-m? and what release numb ers.
[03:07] <KenSentMe> frying_fish: do you know of a plugin for opening ods files in Excel?
[03:08] <DARKGuy> frying_fish: nah, nVIDIA's site, 9631... says they fixed the bug about X crashing with everything
[03:08] <frying_fish> KenSentMe: nope.
[03:08] <KenSentMe> frying_fish: ok, ty
[03:08] <frying_fish> DARKGuy: oh ok, maybe it will end up in some l-r-m with beryl people soon.
[03:08] <cheesy> how can i get my Audigy2 Remote to work?
[03:08] <frying_fish> KenSentMe: you have to manually convert.
[03:08] <DARKGuy> frying_fish: Most probably ;)
[03:08] <bubi> Randakar: hm it isnt complicated but i dont know the right way ;) coming from C++ everything is different :D i just have a file with 10 IPs each row.. and this ips i want to mount like mount -t smbfs //$ip for example
[03:09] <frying_fish> DARKGuy: hope so, the 64bit one usually ends up a bit behind though, would be nice to have the non-black windows all the time.
[03:09] <Randakar> bubi: at any rate, for what you want you should do something like: interfaces = $( `ifconfig | ....` )
[03:09] <bubi> Randakar: hmm i try :)
[03:09] <DARKGuy> frying_fish: Aw, I noticed ): then again, they're different architectures to program on :p
[03:10] <Randakar> bubi: perl would be more C-like for you ;-)
[03:10] <frying_fish> true, but I mean, once the driver is out, it still is a while before it will be in lupines repos.
[03:10] <Randakar> bubi: but then you might also consider using CSH (C-Shell)
[03:10] <frying_fish> DARKGuy: I would do it manually, but I am a bit lazy.
[03:10] <bubi> Randakar: hmm today shell tomorrow perl :) i promise ;)
[03:11] <DARKGuy> frying_fish: that's normal :P
[03:11] <FreeNet> Hi how dow i switch user to root in ubuntu? "su -" is not working
[03:11] <frying_fish> indeed, I moved to ubuntu to be more lazy (and to have things actually work)
[03:11] <frying_fish> FreeNet: sudo -s
[03:11] <Randakar> bubi: no need to promise, just saying perl is very very very powerfull when it comes to this sort of thing
[03:11] <jrib> !root | FreeNet
[03:11] <ubotu> FreeNet: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:11] <frying_fish> or if you particularily want to use su, then sudo passwd root to set the root password, then just su afterwards
[03:12] <cheesy> how can i get my audigy2 remote to work?
[03:12] <bubi> Randakar: hm maybe :) i will try it tomorrow :D i have to learn for school anyway :)
[03:12] <FreeNet> thanks
[03:12] <Randakar> frying_fish: I dislike sudo, frankly. I tend to do 10-20 commands as root, then sudo is just inefficient
[03:12] <DARKGuy> Brb
[03:12] <frying_fish> Randakar: not really inefficient
[03:12] <umer> which version of linux is used in ubuntu
[03:12] <jrib> Randakar: sudo -i   for that
[03:12] <frying_fish> I do sudo -s if I plan on doing lots of things as root
[03:13] <frying_fish> or sudo -i then you are just given a root shell, you could even do sudo bash
[03:13] <frying_fish> then go from there
[03:13] <Randakar> frying_fish: sudo bash :-)
[03:13] <frying_fish> same result in the end.
[03:13] <frying_fish> sudo -s is less characters than sudo bash though
[03:13] <Randakar> frying_fish: true enough.
[03:13] <Randakar> umer: the kernel, you mean? Depends on the version of ubuntu. 6.10 uses 2.6.17 AFAIK
[03:14] <Randakar> frying_fish: "su -" is even less characters :-)
[03:14] <jrib> alias s='sudo -i' is even less :)
[03:14] <frying_fish> Randakar: true, but, since root isn't enabled by default.
[03:14] <toppredator> ok
[03:14] <FreeNet> lol
[03:14] <toppredator> I have a question
[03:14] <Randakar> jrib: haha
[03:14] <frying_fish> jrib: that has problems if you don't mean to type it though.
[03:14] <toppredator> how do you use the IBM biometric scan with Ubuntu
[03:14] <toppredator> ?
[03:15] <Randakar> frying_fish: yeah, that's why I don't recommend it to people who are just starting ;-)
[03:15] <Randakar> toppredator: did you just say 'biometric scan' ?
[03:15] <FreeNet> guys u all heard yum right? the GUI of yum is called yumex... is there a gui for apt?
[03:15] <Randakar> FreeNet: Synaptic
[03:15] <jrib> FreeNet: synaptic, adept, add/remove programs
[03:15] <soundray> FreeNet: several
[03:16] <toppredator> Yeah radkar
[03:16] <toppredator> Hangon
[03:16] <Randakar> jrib: I dislike add/remove programs frankly .. it gives up and points to synaptic too easily
[03:16] <Randakar> jrib: without even specifying where to _find_ synaptic
[03:16] <FreeNet> ok thanks.. i just migrate from CentOS.
[03:16] <Jewbird> Hello users and fans of Ubuntu
[03:16] <jrib> Randakar: me too, I prefer using aptitude or apt-get
[03:17] <toppredator> radkar
[03:17] <toppredator> *randkar
[03:17] <toppredator> **Randakar
[03:17] <umer> to downnload adobe reader they were asking the version.targz or .rpm
[03:17] <toppredator> Its the fingerprint scan
[03:17] <frying_fish> I personally use aptitude for a lot, except sometimes I will use synaptic for if I am being a bit lazy and want to read about things before installing them.
[03:17] <jrib> !info acroread | umer
[03:17] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.8-0.0.ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 22368 kB, installed size 54692 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:17] <Randakar> toppredator: I guess it's a matter of a hardware driver + installing a PAM module, but I've never heard of such a thing ;-)
[03:17] <frying_fish> umer: there is acrobat in the apt soruces
[03:17] <frying_fish> umer: sudo apt-get install acroread
[03:18] <soundray> !multiverse | umer
[03:18] <ubotu> umer: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:18] <Randakar> frying_fish: I'd make that 'aptitude install acroread'
[03:18] <toppredator> its the built in IBM T43 thinkpad finger print scan :/
[03:18] <frying_fish> Randakar: well yeah, sometimes I do that
[03:18] <soundray> umer: you will need to have multiverse enabled to install acroread via apt-get
[03:18] <Randakar> frying_fish: apt-get is nice, but it doesn't mark dependencies as automatically installed (which is logical because it doesn't know about that)
[03:18] <frying_fish> it depends what my fingers are thinking at that time.
[03:18] <frying_fish> Randakar: true.
[03:18] <frying_fish> I try to use aptitude when I remember
[03:19] <slicky> what the big difference between ubuntu intel x86 and AMD64?
[03:19] <Randakar> frying_fish: I recently did a cleanup where every installed package was marked as automatically installed, unless I decided it wasn't ;-)
[03:19] <frying_fish> Randakar: :)
[03:19] <Randakar> frying_fish: that got rid of a _lot_ of lib*-dev packages
[03:19] <soundray> slicky: amd64 uses the 64bit capability of Athlon64, Opteron and Core Duo CPUs.
[03:20] <frying_fish> slicky: what? rephrase that into a sensible question.
[03:20] <frying_fish> Randakar: I suppose I should go through at some point and get rid of all the stuff I don't need.
[03:20] <thepianoguy> how do I join #python?
[03:20] <slicky> soundray, okey, so all the 32 bit applications work aswell on the amd64 version?
[03:20] <jrib> thepianoguy: /join #python
[03:20] <thepianoguy> it says You need to be identified to join that channel
[03:20] <jrib> !register | thepianoguy
[03:20] <ubotu> thepianoguy: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:20] <thepianoguy> thanks! :)
[03:20] <soundray> slicky: yes, if you install the appropriate 32bit libraries.
[03:21] <soundray> slicky: but normally you'll be happier with a i386 install
[03:21] <thepianoguy> hm.. it doesn't work
[03:21] <thepianoguy> !register command
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <slicky> soundray, okey.. ill go for the i386 then ;D
[03:21] <soundray> slicky: amd64 is good for heavy computation, e.g. video recoding.
[03:22] <Rainarrow> Hi there
[03:22] <frying_fish> slicky: if you have the libraries, or there are most likely 64bit variants, what particular 32bit app are you after\?
[03:22] <Rainarrow> Anyone here running Ubuntu on a Thinkpad?
[03:22] <frying_fish> on my 64bit desktop I only have 32 firefox, wine and acroread (through some hacking of the start up script)
[03:22] <soundray> Rainarrow: is that a survey or a support request?
[03:22] <FreeNet> ubuntu don't support FreeNX?
[03:22] <sysdoc> lol
[03:22] <Randakar> !freenx
[03:22] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:23] <w3ccv> are there any good lighweight firewalols for Edgy?
[03:23] <Rainarrow> soundray, it's a support request, thanks
[03:23] <slicky> ow well .. ill go by the 32 bit version
[03:23] <frying_fish> soundray: thats bull, you will be just as happy with 64bit, and tbh, if you have the capabilities for it you should use it.
[03:23] <Randakar> !thinkpad
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thinkpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <soundray> Rainarrow: why don't you ask a support question, then.
[03:23] <frying_fish> slicky: what specifically do you need from 32bit?
[03:23] <Rainarrow> soundray, it's a easyone, everytime I startup my T40 my wireless is powered up
[03:23] <Randakar> I like answer bots :-)
[03:23] <Rainarrow> soundray, even I deactivate it or leave it unconfigured
[03:23] <frying_fish> as firefox 32bit is easy enough, wine is easy enough and acroread is just about easy enough (and there are plenty of other pdf viewers, i.e. evince)
[03:23] <slicky> frying_fish, well ..like the most things.. wine.. amsn n stuff
[03:23] <Rainarrow> soundray, I have to press Fn+F5 to turn it off everytime I startup
[03:23] <frying_fish> amsn is 64bit capable
[03:24] <frying_fish> you can install 32bit wine on 64bit linux
[03:24] <Randakar> Rainarrow: Normally the kernel will auto-load modules for every device you have
[03:24] <frying_fish> there is even a thread on how to do it.
[03:24] <slicky> but is the 64bit faster and more stable then the 32bit?
[03:24] <lewyjh> i looked through the wiki...i just don't think mmy laptop will ever have wirelss with ubuntu...
[03:24] <Rainarrow> Hi Randakar, thanks for your attention
[03:24] <soundray> Rainarrow: I would try blacklisting the module for the interface
[03:24] <soundray> !blacklist
[03:24] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[03:24] <frying_fish> slicky: just as stable, but its a better use of your processors abilities
[03:25] <thepianoguy> ok, found it
[03:25] <slicky> frying_fish,  okey.. like in games?
[03:25] <Rainarrow> soundray, I could see a "ipw2100" in the output of lsmod
[03:25] <Randakar> Rainarrow: that may not be what you want since it permanently disables automatically loading the module
[03:25] <soundray> Rainarrow: prime candidate
[03:25] <frying_fish> slicky: what games are you thinking of here, most are windows based and thus won't work anyway (wine still doesn't play 95% of games)
[03:26] <slicky> frying_fish, like nexuiz :$
[03:26] <frying_fish> and if a game is coded in 32bit then it doesn't matter anyway, if like Half life 2 there is a 64bit version, that is going to be a better use of resources.
[03:26] <lewyjh> frying_fish is there a way to check if my network card is running alright with konsol or something?
[03:26] <Rainarrow> Can I let the system initialize the wireless as a poweredoff state?
[03:26] <soundray> Randakar: I think that *is* what Rainarrow wants. He can always 'modprobe ipw2100' when (s)he needs it.
[03:26] <Rainarrow> OK, I'll test
[03:26] <Randakar> soundray: yeah, just wondering, never heard of this blacklist before ;-)
[03:27] <slicky> frying_fish, okey, ill try the 64 bit version then.. is there much documentation on it as well?
[03:27] <Randakar> sounds useful
[03:27] <frying_fish> lewyjh: iwconfig
[03:27] <frying_fish> man iwconfig
[03:27] <Rainarrow> The ideal solution for me would be to let my system poweroff the wireless when it loads the module
[03:27] <Rainarrow> so when I need it I just need a Fn+F5
[03:27] <frying_fish> documentation on what? 64bit ? same as 32bit.....
[03:27] <Rainarrow> soundray, it's a he, hoho
[03:27] <frying_fish> its not a totally different system
[03:27] <Rainarrow> Is this possible?
[03:27] <frying_fish> just things have been compiled 64bit.
[03:27] <soundray> Rainarrow: that would be a driver feature. You'd have to read the docs and possibly the driver sources to work out whether an approach like that is supported.
[03:28] <slicky> frying_fish,  okey.. so.. if i download a source can i compile it to 64bit ?
[03:28] <lewyjh> frying_fish, is this good or bad? eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"wireless"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[03:28] <lewyjh>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[03:28] <lewyjh>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[03:28] <lewyjh>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[03:28] <lewyjh>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[03:28] <lewyjh>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[03:28] <soundray> lewyjh: this is BAD
[03:28] <Rainarrow> OK soundray, I see
[03:28] <soundray> lewyjh: you're not meant to paste stuff in here.
[03:28] <Randakar> Rainarrow: It's always possible, just not neccesarily easy for a non-programmer ;-)
[03:28] <frying_fish> slicky: yes.
[03:28] <frying_fish> lewjthats working.
[03:28] <Rainarrow> soundray, Randakar, thanks
[03:29] <frying_fish> i.e. you have wireless capability with your card, just your not connected to anything.
[03:29] <lewyjh> frying_fish even though the managed access point is invalid?
[03:29] <Rainarrow> Randakar, well, unfortunely I have litttle programming experience, :(
[03:29] <soundray> Rainarrow: you could check whether FnF5 generates a system event, and make it load the module if it does.
[03:29] <Gumby> lewyjh: sometimes that card works with ubuntu native drivers and other times it needs ndiswrapper to work
[03:29] <frying_fish> you don't appear to be connected to anything, do iwlist eth1 scan produce any results?
[03:29] <slicky> frying_fish, thats great, is it made automatically with make or do i have to do it some other way?
[03:29] <lewyjh> gumby i already added ndiswrapper in the boot file thing, i edited it with konsol.
[03:30] <frying_fish> go read up on it. I can't give you all the details on it. I'm not here to explain exactly how 64bit and 32bit systems work.
[03:30] <Rainarrow> soundray, sounds it possible to do that with a script
[03:30] <Gumby> lewyjh: great.  do as frying_fish suggests
[03:30] <Toma-> anyone use dosbox? is there a way to make it run faster/better other than upping the cycles?
[03:30] <Rainarrow> I'll google around a little, so thanks for all your help
[03:30] <Rainarrow> :P
[03:30] <frying_fish> time to go, I have a dragonforce gig to be at.
[03:30] <slicky> frying_fish, aiit.. thanks
[03:30] <lewyjh> nice.
[03:31] <soundray> Rainarrow: Google is probably useful, and check out Tuxmobil as well
[03:31] <vittorio> hi, i would like to copy data to a nonblocking device. is there a unix command that can handle nonblocking device? (cp cant it seems)
[03:31] <Randakar> Toma-: Yeah, I used it. Not sure about speeding it up though, it's more or less an emulator for old DOS hardware (and DOS, of course :-) )
[03:31] <lewyjh> so i have this light on my Hp laptop, that used to light up when my wireless card was activated...should that still light up when my card is activated in unbuntu?
[03:31] <blaa> nolimitsoya: hi
[03:31] <Rainarrow> oh, there is another thingy
[03:31] <Gumby> lewyjh: you'll have to press the button, sometimes for a few seconds until it lights up
[03:31] <nolimitsoya> blaa :)
[03:31] <Toma-> Randakar: yeh, im trying to run dungeon keeper on it, but its slow as hell :<
[03:31] <soundray> vittorio: you mean a character device? Try cat file >/dev/something
[03:32] <Randakar> Toma-: hehe, yes it does that
[03:32] <Rainarrow> How to disable write cache on usb storage devices?
[03:32] <Gumby> lewyjh: I have an HP/compaq as well and its probably quite similar in how it functions
[03:32] <Toma-> Randakar: do you think carmageddon would work better? :)
[03:32] <lewyjh> gumby: i just thought of it...haha but when i press it nothing happens...:-(
[03:32] <Rainarrow> So I don't have to unmount before unplugging usb disks
[03:32] <Toma-> Randakar: would vmware or qemu work better you think?
[03:32] <Rainarrow> Sometimes that can be bothering
[03:32] <Randakar> Toma-: doubt it. I play pretty old (OLD) games on it, and they run, but not fast ;-)
[03:32] <Gumby> lewyjh: you may have to press it a few times or even hold it for a second or two
[03:32] <blaa> nolimitsoya: ok you are here :)
[03:32] <soundray> Rainarrow: you have to use the sync option to mount
[03:33] <vittorio> soundray, i mean nonblocking. the device returns (with error) when its not ready (like buffer is full)
[03:33] <Randakar> Rainarrow: they just added a feature for that to the 2.6.19 kernel
[03:33] <Randakar> Rainarrow: unfortunately that kernel has not landed in 6.10
[03:33] <Rainarrow> soundray, so it's also possible to add that option into the fstab?
[03:33] <lewyjh> gumby, would that be why my network card isn't working? or at least a sign of why its not working?
[03:33] <soundray> Rainarrow: yes
[03:33] <Rainarrow> Randakar, so I would have to compile a kernel if I want that feature?
[03:33] <Gumby> lewyjh: yes indeed.  the light probably needs to be on which I believe means that the radio is functional
[03:33] <soundray> Rainarrow: I think it will still complain...
[03:34] <Vlet> Last night I installed Dapper on my laptop which has an Nvidia GF4, let all the updates run, then upgraded to Edgy, and when I restarted, X was broke. Is this a common issue with a boilerplate fix?
[03:34] <Randakar> http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges
[03:34] <Gumby> lewyjh: what is the output of ndiswrapper -l
[03:34] <Randakar> a "-o flush" mount option aimed at FAT-based hotpluggable media devices (mp3)
[03:34] <lewyjh> gumby, any idea why it won't light up? and how do i find out the output?
[03:34] <logankoester> Anyone know how to sync the system clock from the command line?
[03:34] <soundray> Vlet: I don't think so, but you could try the binary driver from NVidia:
[03:34] <soundray> !nvidia | Vlet
[03:34] <ubotu> Vlet: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:34] <Gumby> and also dmesg |grep ndiswrapper  <--  paste this to a pastebin  http://rafb.net/paste
[03:35] <Rainarrow> soundray, I googled a little, seems if you mount a flashdisk w/sync option, it will become extreme slow
[03:35] <Rainarrow> is that true with Ubuntu?
[03:35] <Rainarrow> I am using dapper
[03:35] <Vlet> Thanks soundray
[03:35] <soundray> Rainarrow: I haven't tried
[03:35] <Randakar> Vlet: Is X broke, or is there some other problem? What output is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[03:35] <nolimitsoya> blaa, did you want something?
[03:35] <soundray> Rainarrow: but it's plausible
[03:35] <soundray> logankoester: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate
[03:35] <Randakar> Vlet: and don't paste that in here, just look at it to see if there are any error messages
[03:36] <logankoester> soundray: thanks :)
[03:36] <Randakar> logankoester: run 'ntpdate'
[03:36] <lewyjh> gumby...how does this work?
[03:36] <Rainarrow> Well
[03:36] <blaa> nolimitsoya: I want to know how to use jbod.
[03:36] <Vlet> Randakar: the lappie is at home at the moment... I'm sure I could eventually diagnose the problem.. I just thought I'd see if it was a common enough problem to have a common answer... as it was :)
[03:36] <nolimitsoya> !lvm | blaa
[03:36] <ubotu> blaa: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:36] <nolimitsoya> :)
[03:36] <logankoester> hmm, it didn't change the date - maybe I'm using the wrong timezone? How can I set that?
[03:36] <Randakar> Vlet: ah, ok
[03:37] <Toma-> !vmware
[03:37] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[03:37] <soundray> logankoester: sudo tzconfig
[03:37] <Rainarrow> soundray, so I wonder how Windows treats usb flashdisks? Windows doesn't seem to have this problem
[03:37] <blaa> nolimitsoya: ok
[03:37] <logankoester> soundray: awesome, thanks again
[03:37] <lewyjh> paste "and also dmesg |grep ndiswrapper" into that website?
[03:37] <Gumby> goto the page choose plain text as the language, input your name and a description, paste the output, click paste, the page will refresh and then you paste the new URL to the channel
[03:37] <Rainarrow> soundray, writing is fast and I could unplug w/o umounting
[03:37] <nolimitsoya> blaa, are you sure you want to? raid0 would offer only benefits over jbod, uless you want to expand later, and have a backup
[03:37] <soundray> Rainarrow: it does -- Windows just uses filesystem caches less aggressively, I think
[03:37] <Randakar> Rainarrow: Windows probably handles disk caching in a completely different manner
[03:37] <logankoester> soundray: My timezone is correct, but the clock is still wrong - any idea why?
[03:38] <lewyjh> any description?
[03:38] <Gumby> lewyjh: no, dmesg |grep ndiswrapper is the command, you type that into a console on your desktop and then you paste the output to the pastebin
[03:38] <Rainarrow> logankoester, just set your clock again
[03:38] <logankoester> maybe it didn't have any servers configured to sync to or something?
[03:38] <soundray> logankoester: check what ntp servers you have configured (in /etc/default/ntpdate) and see if you can ping it/them.
[03:38] <logankoester> ahh, forgot to run ntupdate with sudo. Got it now :)
[03:39] <lordmetroid_> how do I search text file for a word?
[03:39] <blaa> nolimitsoya: really ? I don't know becuase this my first time to install ubuntu on two harddisks
[03:39] <lordmetroid_> *text files
[03:39] <soundray> logankoester: the if-up script runs here without sudo
[03:39] <Randakar> logankoester: it's ntpdate, not 'ntpupdate'
[03:39] <lewyjh> gumby, when i type that into konsol...nothing happens.
[03:39] <Gumby> lordmetroid_: use grep in a console.... ie:  grep what_you_want_to_find filename.txt
[03:39] <logankoester> I mean that ;)
[03:39] <amortvigil> hey i tryed to install samab but it gives errors and i cant remove it :O
[03:39] <nolimitsoya> blaa, this isnt ubuntu specific. that why i told you to read up on raid techniques. they all offer different advantages, and disadvantages at that :)
[03:39] <Gumby> lewyjh: then it seems like you dont have ndiswrapper working :)
[03:39] <mordof> hey all.. i was wondering if i could get a link for a walkthrough or somethin, or even a bit of help to get this "screen" thing working? i've heard about it.. being able to attatch and detatch, but i don't know where to start
[03:39] <lordmetroid_> Gumby: thank you
[03:39] <soundray> lordmetroid_: with grep
[03:40] <lewyjh> gumby: NICE!!!
[03:40] <jrib> !screen | mordof
[03:40] <ubotu> mordof: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[03:40] <amortvigil> the error it gives is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:40] <soundray> oops, late
[03:40] <Gumby> lewyjh: what is the output of lsmod |grep ndis
[03:40] <lewyjh> gumby: i was being sarcastic...so should i do a apt-get install ndiswrapper?
[03:40] <nolimitsoya> blaa, raid is not somthing that you set up in a heartbeat. it requires some planning, and thinking. otherwise youll just end up redoing it
[03:40] <Randakar> amortvigil: that's not very informative
[03:40] <nolimitsoya> blaa, when youve decided what raid level you want perhaps this will help you set it up: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LVMOnRaid
[03:40] <jrib> mordof: try just running 'screen', ctrl-a d  will detach.  'screen -r' will reattach.  That is the basics.  You should read those links and 'man screen' possibly for more stuff
[03:40] <soundray> amortvigil: run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and paste the errors on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , then give us the URL
[03:40] <mordof> jrib: ty
[03:41] <Randakar> amortvigil: most likely some other component depends on samba, and dpkg won't remove samba unless you also remove that component
[03:41] <lewyjh> gumby, aboslutly nothing...oh boy.
[03:41] <blaa> nolimitsoya: thanks :D
[03:41] <Rainarrow> Oh, and what is the Enterprise Volume Manager thingy?
[03:42] <Gumby> lewyjh: ok, how about this...  dpkg -l ndisw*
[03:42] <FreeNet> hi guys may i know how do we protect ubuntu from virus? how does the virus spread? usually in what form(*example .exe in window)?
[03:42] <mordof> jrib: alright somehow i managed to lose my terminal but keep my screen attatched, lol
[03:42] <FreeNet> !virus
[03:42] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:42] <Randakar> FreeNet: You don't, and it doesn't.
[03:42] <soundray> FreeNet: there are no Linux viruses in the wild.
[03:42] <jrib> mordof: eh?  what did you do?
[03:42] <Gumby> freebse3: linux doesnt really have the need for virus protection
[03:42] <lewyjh> gumby, i got something now.
[03:42] <mordof> jrib: so now i can't get it back :P (i typed screen and then tried to detatch and reattatch)
[03:43] <mordof> but i must've did it wrong
[03:46] (Yul/#ubuntu) hello
[03:46] (Yul/#ubuntu) What is GPG Error?
[03:56] (Polysics/#ubuntu) wheels3572, apt-get update
[03:56] (Randakar/#ubuntu) svip: A simple google query helps
[03:56] (lewyjh/#ubuntu) gumby, oh boy, this could get complicated...
[03:56] <Cid> hello everyone
[03:56] (soundray/#ubuntu) amortvigil: what happens when you 'sudo kill -9 10427'?
[03:56] (Randakar/#ubuntu) http://www.google.com/search?q=bdf+fonts+on+linux
[03:57] (wheels3572/#ubuntu) Polysics, ok ty Im thinking that will stop my software updates issue Im having
[03:57] (FreeNet/#ubuntu) Dan Brown's Digital Fortress, the powerful decryption machine. Is it true?
[03:57] (blaa/#ubuntu) nolimitsoya: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileServerOnLVMOnRAID1#head-c0f891d8f8a3f08d3031b2ce2fb376b481060777
[03:57] (Randakar/#ubuntu) svip: login, logout should work
[03:57] <nolimitsoya> blaa, what about it?
[03:57] <blaa> nolimitsoya: ok this is my answer  thanks lot
[03:57] <blaa> nolimitsoya: helpful for me so much
[03:58] <Cid> hey, I'm having the problem that some tray icons (like Kopete or Azureus) are hardly shown in the gnome-panel (only a 1 pixel wide stripe). Anyone heard of that problem before?
[03:58] <amortvigil> soundray nothing happens
[03:58] <Gumby> lewyjh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy  follow this guide
[03:58] <ubuntu> sw
[03:58] <Gumby> lewyjh: asuming you use edgy of course :)
[03:58] <soundray> amortvigil: now try 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' again
[03:58] <nolimitsoya> blaa, if you use raid level 1, youll only be able to access 50% of your storage space :)
[03:58] <wheels3572> Ok where the location of the update files so I can go and edit out an entry
[03:58] <nolimitsoya> blaa, the other half will be used for redundancy
[03:59] <FreeNet> lol got so excited over virus... I finally found myself something that can keep me busy for next few years
[03:59] <Gumby> nolimitsoya: but if redundancy is important for you then its well worth the loss
[03:59] <Polysics> back :-) this chatzilla thing is nifty
[03:59] <wheels3572> wb Polysics
[03:59] <blaa> nolimitsoya: ok I will use raid 0
[03:59] <amortvigil> soudnray it works!
[03:59] <Randakar> FreeNet: Digital fortress is fiction. So is it true? well, it's fiction ..
[03:59] <nolimitsoya> blaa, if you want redundancy, id suggest raid level5 unless thatll give you performance problems
[03:59] <Cid> exit
[03:59] <soundray> amortvigil: it's still marked for removal now.
[03:59] <Polysics> what is Digital Fortress? sounds interesting if it's a book/movie
[03:59] <nolimitsoya> Gumby, i think level 5 would be more apropirate (and cheaper) in most cases
[03:59] <sir-k-> which version of libgpod do I need to use with amarok 1.4.4 provided by kubuntu?
[03:59] <wheels3572> Polysics, is the list located so I can go and update it and remove an entry please?
[03:59] <wheels3572> and ty
[04:00] <blaa> nolimitsoya: no I just want to merge two harddisks
[04:00] <FreeNet> putting 5000 Processors together and run decryption... I don't think it's impossible.
[04:00] <soundray> amortvigil: probably best to finish off the job by doing the purge again, and then reinstall, or not, as you prefer.
[04:00] <Randakar> Polysics: Possibly a terribly misguided one though ;-)
[04:00] <Gumby> nolimitsoya: well, I didnt hear the whole conversation... but I dont see hwo raid 5 would be cheaper
[04:00] <nolimitsoya> Gumby, you "loose" less space
[04:01] <Polysics> wheels3572: i would be glad to help, but i don't know enough about debian to avoid breaking your installation :-)
[04:01] <FreeNet> Human can go to the moon... what else can't happen on earth?
[04:01] <Randakar> FreeNet: 5000 processors is nothing. For some algorithms and some keys the current known shortest time to break it requires several million years and all the molecules in the universe to be one big processor
[04:01] <FreeNet> maybe Death..
[04:01] <Polysics> Randakar: then is it a book? fiction or essay?
[04:01] <soundray> FreeNet: this is a support channel. Please join #ubuntu-offtopic for any non-support related conversations.
[04:01] <Randakar> FreeNet: No idea, FreeNet was mentioning it
[04:01] <FreeNet> lol sorry
[04:01] <Polysics> can you tell i'm out of books to read? .-)
[04:02] <soundray> amortvigil: am I making sense?
[04:02] <Randakar> FreeNet: However, quantum computing promises computers that can break the current state of the art encryption - but it's still just a promise, and there are known mathematical constructs that cannot be broken that way.
[04:02] <Polysics> ok, back *hopefully* on linux
[04:03] <boink> this channel is for support ...
[04:03] <boink> heh, ubuntu needs massive amounts of support!
[04:03] <Randakar> boink: good point :-)
[04:04] <amortvigil> soundray no because the removal gives still the error:P
[04:04] <soundray> amortvigil: did you sudo it?
[04:04] <boink> feisty? oooh, that must be painful
[04:04] <wheels3572> Can ANYONE tell me where I can go to edit the repo list please?
[04:05] <Randakar> boink: Not really, upgrade worked fine
[04:05] <soundray> Randakar: please join #ubuntu+1 to discuss feisty problems
[04:05] <Gumby> wheels3572: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <Randakar> boink: No real trouble until I rebooted it (auch)
[04:05] <wheels3572> ty Gumby
[04:05] <Randakar> soundray: I tried, kinda quiet in there. No answer even ;-)
[04:05] <wheels3572> Gumby, what's the processname for the software Updates do you know.  I need to kill it
[04:05] <amortvigil> soundray yes i did
[04:05] <wheels3572> it wont stop running
[04:05] <Randakar> boink: I worked around the biggest issue though, now I just want the loose ends fixed :-)
[04:06] <soundray> Randakar: check back in five hours, that's usually a busier time
[04:06] <Randakar> soundray: Hm, I should be home by then ;-)
[04:06] <fwtest> hello, if i want to run lamp and ssh, is it a bad idea to use that box as a firewall too?
[04:06] <Gumby> wheels3572: in a console run ps aux and have a look
[04:06] <RedKrieg|Work> does anyone have the tarball for the flash 9 beta that they can email me?  I can't download it from adobe's site (error 500)
[04:06] <wheels3572> ok ty
[04:06] <soundray> amortvigil: okay, we need a more structured approach.
[04:06] <Gumby> wheels3572: its generally not advised to kill an update process though
[04:07] <Randakar> fwtest: That's what I do. Not neccesarily the best of ideas, but it works.
[04:07] <wheels3572> well it's done the update
[04:07] <wheels3572> and everything
[04:07] <wheels3572> when it refreshes
[04:07] <wheels3572> it's just spinning
[04:07] <FreeNet> ok i am having trouble installing freenx... pls view http://pastecode.net/?action=viewpost&tag=1153 . it's an error msg from synaptic
[04:07] <fwtest> Randakar, what could be a problem if i do this on same box?
[04:07] <wheels3572> wont move
[04:08] <Randakar> fwtest: well, if somebody hacks your webserver, they can listen in on your desktop internet traffic
[04:08] <FreeNet> can dapper's package be installed on edgy?
[04:08] <Randakar> fwtest: for instance.  Do you want it installed or purged?
[04:09] <amortvigil> installed
[04:09] <Gumby> wheels3572: try kill -13 PID#
[04:09] <fwtest> Randakar, but if the firewall is also hacked, then the traffic can also be listended
[04:09] <Randakar> FreeNet: Possibly, but it's not recommended and it might not work.
[04:09] <sod75> FreeNet: some simple package will probably work, but more complex stuff will quickly end up in dependency hell
[04:09] <BadLoop> hi
[04:09] <wheels3572> Gumby, operation not permitted
[04:09] <soundray> amortvigil: I suggest you run 'sudo apt-get install samba' now and reboot.
[04:09] <wheels3572> do I need Sudo?
[04:10] <Gumby> wheels3572: oops,. yes sudo
[04:10] <wheels3572> thought so ty
[04:10] <Randakar> fwtest: if you have a dedicated firewall chances of people hacking it are just lower than when you put a webserver on it. An order of magnitude lower if you secure it properly
[04:10] <BadLoop> im sorry im asking this question, but my inet connection doesnt allow me to browse te web at the moment .. i wanted to add dns to /etc/resolv.conf but theres only a weird directory .. can you tell me which file im looking for please ?
[04:10] <amortvigil> i have got it working ^^
[04:11] <amortvigil> thanx all
[04:11] <Gumby> BadLoop: /etc/reslolv.conf should be a file not a directory
[04:11] <Randakar> BadLoop: resolv.conf is the file you're looking for
[04:11] <wheels3572> killed the wrong process oh well lol wont hurt it
[04:11] <wheels3572> ty Gumby
[04:11] <wheels3572> got it
[04:11] <Gumby> wheels3572: excellent
[04:12] <fwtest> Randakar, if i have a firewall which protects a webserver behind it, it is also still possible for someone to hack the webserver?
[04:12] <Randakar> fwtest: Yes.
[04:12] <BadLoop> Gumby, i see theres resolvconf/
[04:12] <w3ccv> are there any good lighweight firewalols for Edgy?
[04:12] <Gumby> BadLoop: what is the output of ls -l /etc/resolv*
[04:12] <Randakar> fwtest: depends on what you run on the webserver, but the biggest hole would be something like PHPBB running on apache
[04:13] <fwtest> Randakar, so it is just the same using firewall or not?
[04:13] <Randakar> fwtest: the difference is that once somebody hacks your webserver the impact of that is lessened because they won't immediately also control your firewall ;-)
[04:13] <jrib> !firewall | w3ccv
[04:13] <ubotu> w3ccv: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:14] <Randakar> fwtest: partitioning stuff off like that is a core principle of good security
[04:14] <fwtest> Randakar, anyway, do you think a firewall is there to protect servers or lan inside?
[04:14] <BadLoop> Gumby, i probably got it .. seems i have some problems with new ip from my provider ... thanks.
[04:14] <Randakar> fwtest: both.
[04:14] <tristan_> just dropped by to tell you guys that ubuntu rocks :)
[04:15] <Randakar> tristan_: preaching to the choir here :-)
[04:15] <tristan_> haha, gnome rocks with ubuntu !
[04:15] <soundray> tristan_: I fully agree with you
[04:15] <fwtest> Randakar, but how can a firewall protect servers since people can connect directly to it?
[04:16] <Randakar> fwtest: a firewall protects the server if it exposes more services than just port 80 HTTP.
[04:16] <FreeNet> i see.. ok i'll take a look again.
[04:16] <macluvjay> using 6.10 server edition, how can I kill X so that I can start a window nanager from a console?
[04:16] <wheels3572> Gumby, Where is the sources.list again under /etc what?
[04:17] <soundray> macluvjay: if you have gdm installed, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[04:17] <LjL> wheels3572: /etc/apt
[04:17] <Randakar> fwtest: furthermore it gives you a tool to take control back if something happens. If the server = the firewall you can't shut it down remotely (no control) but if the firewall is seperate you can just cut all links to it if it is compromised
[04:17] <nolimitsoya> macluvjay, ctrl+alt+bckspace
[04:17] <wheels3572> ty LjL
[04:17] <Gumby> wheels3572: /etc/apt/
[04:17] <macluvjay> I don't have a login manager installed yet
[04:17] <soundray> macluvjay: listen to nolimitsoya then
[04:18] <Randakar> fwtest: however all that is pretty much theoretical, if you think it's more convenient to put both on the same box .. *shrug*. It's what I did ;-)
[04:18] <soundray> macluvjay: alternatively, switch to console with 'Ctrl-Alt-F1', log in and run 'sudo killall X'
[04:19] <timo90> Hey my ubuntu sems to take forever at the boot
[04:19] <Randakar> macluvjay: if you want to be thorough, 'sudo aptitude install slay; slay <user>' works too ;-)
[04:19] <timo90> slash and its really slow
[04:19] <fwtest> Randakar, i would love to do it, since i just want to do it privately and i dont have many boxes, but 1 more question, wont it slower my box if i use the firewall on a same box? if a DOS attack coming, then i am dead
[04:19] <timo90> i have barl installed but its working ok
[04:19] <soundray> timo90: do you know at what stage it spends its time?
[04:20] <Ramsie> I am a linux newbie, I just installed ubuntu yesterday, and with some liberal doses of help from a friend, got nvidia drivers installed, saw the nvidia logo, and then was successful in running things like Enlightenment and xmms with Milkdrop, so it seemed to be working.   Today, it's telling me the nvidia GPU is no longer recognized, so I went in the xorg.conf file like I was told to...
[04:20] <Randakar> fwtest: frankly DOS attacks are not easy to protect against; Unless you're a big company with resources or are using a hosting provider with cluefull admins don't expect you can defend against that at all
[04:20] <Ramsie> now, why is the nvidia driver not working, and how do I make it work again?
[04:21] <Randakar> Ramsie: did you update anything in the meanwhile?
[04:21] <soundray> Ramsie: can you find a line that says either 'Driver "nv"' or 'Driver "nvidia"'?
[04:21] <Ramsie> I was told to... and changed the "nvidia" entry to just "nv", at which point I got the KDE desktop to come back up.
[04:21] <wheels3572> god Gumby how do I exit vim
[04:21] <Ramsie> I did that
[04:22] <tabman> this website http://voicecafe.optecs.net/alquranchat/voice.asp is suppose to install a plugin, it works on Windows but no here on Ubuntu, probably some firefox extension missing
[04:22] <wheels3572> i need to close vim without savin
[04:22] <Randakar> wheels3572:  :q!
[04:22] <fwtest> Randakar, i see, i just wonder if iptables will use up some ram dropping malicious packets
[04:22] <Gumby> wheels3572: :q!
[04:22] <scythe128> anyone know which rc script I will need to modify in order to run something at startup after gnome or kde has loaded?
[04:22] <Gumby> wheels3572: if you want something much easier to learn try nano :)
[04:23] <Randakar> fwtest: possibly yes, but the kernel tries hard to defend against that
[04:23] <soundray> scythe128: none. Go through System-Preferences-Session
[04:23] <dreamer> hmm, I can't connect with vnc to my desktop, when I'm sure I have vnc enabled, where can I check this and how do I enable vnc-access over ssh ?
[04:23] <Ramsie> any suggestions?
[04:23] <Randakar> scythe128: there's a menu entry in the gnome menu for that
[04:23] <Randakar> scythe128: look under 'sessions'
[04:23] <fwtest> Randakar, thanks for your time, i know what to do now
[04:23] <Ramsie> I didn't change the "nv" until after the GPU was no longer being recognized, I had to do it from the command line
[04:23] <scythe128> soundray, I am in kde most of the time.  I want it to run no matter what wm I am using
[04:23] <Gumby> dreamer: the server running vnc server probably isnt using vnc over ssh.
[04:24] <Randakar> fwtest: You're welcome :-)
[04:24] <Gumby> dreamer: from the client box try and telnet to the server box on port 5900
[04:24] <soundray> scythe128: I'm sure KDE has a similar mechanism for running programs at login
[04:24] <dreamer> Gumby: I just meant that I can access the pc over ssh, but I can't connect with VNCviewer
[04:24] <kr0n1x> exit
[04:24] <Gumby> dreamer: ie:  telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 5900
[04:24] <Skrot-> scythe128: Put stuff in .kde/Autostart to have it autostart on login
[04:24] <Gumby> if you get a RFB connectiong then vnc is running
[04:25] <Gumby> if you dont then its either blocked or not running
[04:25] <Skrot-> ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:25] <wheels3572> Yeah im not getting no where im just screwing up my sources.list even more GRRRRRRRR
[04:25] <dreamer> Gumby: can I do this in pyttu also (/me on a windows machine atm)
[04:25] <dreamer> putty*
[04:25] <Gumby> dreamer: you can do it from a windows console also
[04:26] <ismail> hi all
[04:26] <Randakar> wheels3572: when in doubt, log in on a different console and just 'killall -9 vi' ;-)
[04:26] <dreamer> Gumby: nothing really happens ...
[04:26] <wheels3572> ty Randakar
[04:26] <Gumby> dreamer: define "nothing"
[04:27] <ismail> how do i install .bin in ubuntu
[04:27] <Randakar> wheels3572: vi can be very frustrating to the uninitiated
[04:27] <dreamer> er ..
[04:27] <soundray> ismail: you don't, if you can somehow avoid it.
[04:27] <soundray> ismail: what do you want to install?
[04:27] <dreamer> Gumby: I think the connection refused
[04:27] <ismail> google earth
[04:27] <Randakar> well, I'm off. Good luck all
[04:27] <dreamer> I've tried it with putty, and over ssh from this machine
[04:27] <Gumby> ismail: chmod +x filename.bin and then ./filename.bin (unless you need to install it with root privs then sudo ./filename.bin)
[04:28] <wheels3572> it is and I just opened up the file again
[04:28] <Gumby> dreamer: ok, then either a firewall is blocking it or vnc isnt running
[04:28] <soundray> ismail: before you follow Gumby, let me check something...
[04:28] <Gumby> dreamer: how did you start the vnc server?
[04:28] <dreamer> ok, how can I start/enable nvc ?
[04:28] <ismail> oki
[04:28] <ismail> go ahead
[04:29] <dreamer> Gumby: I think I enabled vnc access a while ago on my desktop, from the menu, but .. that was in gnome, I have kde running atm, so could it be it isn't enabled in kde yet ?
[04:29] <ismail> i was ablw to install it in suse.. just by running it in the consol
[04:29] <ismail> why cant i in ubuntu
[04:29] <soundray> ismail: googleearth has been packaged for ubuntu by PLF. Check http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy-plf/non-free/
[04:29] <Enron> heelo
[04:29] <Enron> hello
[04:29] <Gumby> dreamer: what is the output of netstat -tpan |grep 5900
[04:29] <soundray> ismail: do you know how to modify your sources.list?
[04:29] <dreamer> Gumby: if I do that with ssh on the machine itself ?
[04:30] <ismail> nop
[04:30] <Gumby> dreamer: yep
[04:30] <ismail> im new in linux
[04:30] <Enron> how can i change the country on ubuntu?
[04:30] <ismail> self learning
[04:30] <Enron> i have a problem during apt updating
[04:30] <dreamer> Gumby: says nothing
[04:30] <Enron> i think it's because country setting
[04:30] <Gumby> dreamer: ok, then vnc isnt running
[04:30] <soundray> ismail: run 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and add the two typescript lines from the top of that page.
[04:31] <dreamer> ok, can I activate vnc over ssh ?
[04:31] <morphex_> hi is here anybody using valknut?
[04:31] <soundray> ismail: then save the file and run 'sudo apt-get update', checking for any errors.
[04:31] <kmaynard> you need to do a little vnc homework...
[04:31] <dreamer> morphex_: I've tried valknut and thought it sucks !
[04:31] <JasoNWalruS> hello
[04:31] <dreamer> morphex_: I use DCPP now and it's way better
[04:31] <slavik> where can I get help enabling perl support within apache? (so that it executes the script)
[04:31] <Gumby> dreamer: you might be able to...  you can try doing DISPLAY=:0 vino-server
[04:31] <JasoNWalruS> i softmodded my xbox last night and need some help
[04:32] <morphex_> yes? I don't know how can i configure it
[04:32] <soundray> ismail: if that has worked, you can then 'sudo apt-get install googleearth'
[04:32] <Gumby> dreamer: DISPLAY=:0 vino-server & might be better
[04:32] <dreamer> DISPLAY=:0 vino-server &
[04:32] <dreamer> [1]  9535
[04:32] <dreamer> -bash: vino-server: command not found
[04:32] <soundray> JasoNWalruS: are you running ubuntu on it?
[04:32] <JasoNWalruS> hahah no
[04:32] <Gumby> dreamer: hrm, you must have some other vnc server installed then.  of course I have no idea what that might be
[04:32] <JasoNWalruS> i have unleashx
[04:32] <FreeNet> linux system do not need any defragments?
[04:33] <Gumby> FreeNet: correct
[04:33] <dreamer> I have dapper .. I'll search what vnc-server is standard on dapper ..
[04:33] <dreamer> !vnc
[04:33] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:33] <soundray> JasoNWalruS: I don't think you've come to the best place for help, then
[04:33] <JasoNWalruS> i know
[04:33] <dreamer> !FreeNX
[04:33] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:33] <JasoNWalruS> what channels would help me
[04:34] <FreeNet> Well really save alot when using linux... all software firm can go bankrupt if dependency for windows grow less.
[04:34] <ismail> soundray: it doesnt work its not supported
[04:34] <soundray> ismail: are you on amd64?
[04:34] <ismail> nop intel p4 3.2
[04:35] <ismail> im downloading the deb file now.
[04:35] <ismail> one more question
[04:35] <ismail> how about the .sh file
[04:35] <ismail> im trying to install limewire
[04:35] <Gumby> ismail: install frostwire
[04:35] <ismail> and the linux package  uses runlimewire.sh
[04:36] <JasoNWalruS> what channels would help me with my mods?
[04:36] <ismail> frostwire
[04:36] <anders__> ok i got enemy territory to work now :-) but i get no sound... i have an onboarde ac97 soundcard and sound works normally in gnome. ubuntu 6.10 i386.
[04:36] <Gumby> ismail: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:36] <nolimitsoya> JasoNWalruS, mods?
[04:36] <JasoNWalruS> yeah
[04:36] <JasoNWalruS> xbox
[04:36] <Gumby> frostwire has a prebuild deb for ubuntu
[04:36] <dbr> Does Ubuntu automatically reboot after kernel updates (if the computer is inactive)?
[04:37] <Gumby> dbr: no, it waits for you to reboot it manually
[04:37] <dbr> Odd, any idea why a box would reboot itself every ~30 days then..?
[04:38] <Gumby> has something against the change of months?
[04:38] <none> how do i get and install bitchx?
[04:38] <dbr> sudo apt-get install bitchx #?
[04:38] <LjL> !info bitchx
[04:38] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1507 kB, installed size 6516 kB
[04:38] <LjL> Ubotu, tell none about software | none, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:39] <pucko-> anyone know if ubuntu netinstall supports pcmcia-cards?
[04:39] <slavik> !paste
[04:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:40] <x-r00t-x> LjL, can you tell me where do i get sound driver for intel 945gnt ?
[04:40] <x-r00t-x> !945gnt
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 945gnt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <x-r00t-x> !sound
[04:40] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:42] <x-r00t-x> i just asked for help to the bot . i wasnt playing
[04:42] <LjL> x-r00t-x: do it in a private query
[04:42] <LjL>  /query ubotu
[04:42] <x-r00t-x> ok
[04:42] <Z3dzDead> hi, everyone. I am having trouble logging into ubuntu with fluxbox- i don't know what i am doing wrong. I have followed the online-guides and created the correct .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/. But when  I log in, i get a message on /usr/bin/startfluxbox-line 27 - an access denied error.
[04:43] <Z3dzDead> is this a fluxbox issue?
[04:43] <Z3dzDead> i don't know why- but the permissions are set to my user
[04:43] <jrib> Z3dzDead: why not use the ubuntu fulxbox package?  It sets that up for you
[04:44] <Z3dzDead> oh? well, i must've been mistaken than- i am using the .deb package from the repo.
[04:44] <slavik> how do I get perl support working with apache2? (what packages do I need?)
[04:45] <jrib> Z3dzDead: you shouldn't have had to create the .desktop.  Pastebin 'cat /usr/bin/startfluxbox && apt-cache policy fluxbox && dpkg -S /usr/bin/startfluxbox' please
[04:45] <jrib> I could be wrong, I haven't used it on edgy
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> could anyone recommend a multinetwork filesharing client that integrates nicely with ubuntu?
[04:45] <BadLoop> seems im going to argue with my provider and then sue him
[04:45] <Z3dzDead> jrib: ok, just let me run back to my room and get it. thanks.
[04:46] <piggyg1> Has anyone gotten Ubuntu to work on Virtual PC 2004?
[04:46] <base> hi i have a question smartmontools on ubuntu 5.10 live cd cant read any SMART devices
[04:46] <x-r00t-x> can anyone tell me. why my ubuntu giving bad sound quality since today
[04:46] <jrib> Z3dzDead: what did you mean by permissions are set to your user by the way?  On what file?
[04:47] <LjL> nolimitsoya: i'd look at gift (gtk2 frontend is giftoxic) and mldonkey (gtk2 frontend is mldonkey-gui)
[04:47] <morphex_> hi when i can find DCPP to download?
[04:47] <nolimitsoya> LjL, thank you :)
[04:47] <LjL> can anyone tell me, why my irc client can't read people's minds
[04:47] <slavik> LjL: do you know what package I need for apache2 perl support?
[04:48] <x-r00t-x> lol
[04:48] <Z3dzDead> jrib: permissions to ~/.fluxbox and /usr/bin/startfluxbox- the latter, just a shot in the dark.
[04:48] <nolimitsoya> LjL, dont know. i have the same problem. must be a bug :/
[04:48] <webben> I have this external USB E-IDE/ATAPI DVD writer. http://tinyurl.com/ydpp4k
[04:48] <LjL> slavik: i can only guess: libapache2-mod-perl2
[04:48] <morphex_> hi when can i find DCPP to download?
[04:48] <webben> how do I get it to use DMA?
[04:48] <piggyg1> LjL: its cause people aren't open minded
[04:48] <jrib> Z3dzDead: weird, I'd expect that to be owned by root
[04:48] <LadyNikon> LjL: wrong font loaded :p
[04:48] <webben> hdparm /dev/scd0 says "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[04:49] <morphex_> hi when can i find DCPP to download?
[04:49] <base> does anyone know a smartd like program that works wit SATA drives?
[04:49] <morphex_> dreamer: hi when can i find DCPP to download?
[04:49] <slavik> I have that installed, but still doesn't work work :(
[04:51] <jrib> slavik: sudo a2enmod     and enable it maybe?
[04:52] <x-r00t-x> can anyone help me with sound?
[04:52] <slavik> jrib: already enable
[04:52] <jrib> slavik: restarted apache?
[04:53] <pty> x-r00t-x: whats the problem?
[04:53] <LadyNikon> x-r00t-x: like what?
[04:53] <x-r00t-x> its giving me bad sound quality since today morning :'(
[04:53] <dreamer> morphex_: hmmm, let me see, it wasn't that difficult to install on dapper either, even I could do it :P
[04:53] <apokryphos> ubotu: sound
[04:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:53] <dreamer> !dcpp
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <dreamer> too bad :p
[04:54] <pty> x-r00t-x: in all applications?
[04:54] <x-r00t-x> pty,  yes
[04:54] <slavik> jrib: nothing :(
[04:54] <slavik> still gives me the save file thingy
[04:54] <slavik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35424/ << my config
[04:54] <pty> x-r00t-x: how is the quality bad?  crackles?
[04:54] <LjL> !info dcgui | dreamer, if that's what you're looking for
[04:54] <ubotu> dcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[04:55] <x-r00t-x> pty, yes
[04:55] <jrib> slavik: are you using apache or apache2?
[04:55] <slavik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35427/
[04:55] <slavik> apache2
[04:55] <slavik> that's my script
[04:56] <tristan_> ok rocking ubuntu folks... how am I supposed to get rid of "-nolisten" argument to my X server ?
[04:56] <tristan_> some gdm configuration ?
[04:56] <tristan_> ps axf - shows that gdm started my X session by hand
[04:56] <tristan_> :-.
[04:56] <tristan_> :-/
[04:56] <tristan_> hmmm
[04:56] <x-r00t-x> pty,  i am using intel on board sound card
[04:56] <morphex_> dreamer: i have breezy
[04:57] <pty> x-r00t-x: ok, did you change anything or did it happen on its own?
[04:57] <jrib> slavik: I don't really have much knowledge about perl mod.  But httpd.conf looks like its for apache1.  Are you using it in /etc/apache2/ instead of /etc/apache/?  apache2 on ubuntu seems to prefer using /etc/apache2/apache2.conf by the way
[04:57] <x-r00t-x> its happen on its own
[04:58] <thyrfingo> hi
[04:58] <jrib> slavik: apt-cache policy apache  maybe to check if apache is installed
[04:58] <thyrfingo> installed ubuntu for first time now and how can i install firefox?
[04:58] <pty> x-r00t-x: if you go to administration -> prefs -> multimedia system selector
[04:58] <tristan_> found it
[04:58] <jrib> thyrfingo: it is already installed
[04:58] <thyrfingo> i installed 5.10
[04:58] <tristan_> DisallowTCP=false <-- gdm.conf
[04:58] <thyrfingo> and updated
[04:58] <pty> x-r00t-x: what does it say for output?
[04:58] <slavik> jrib: apache2 is, apache isn't
[04:58] <thyrfingo> its that the same+
[04:59] <jrib> slavik: maybe try #apache
[04:59] <tristan_> well, see ya later, looks like I have to restart my X session
[04:59] <morphex_> when cai i download DCPP on my breezy?
[04:59] <slavik> jrib: found apache2.conf ...
[04:59] <Guardian> hi
[04:59] <Guardian> is it possible to configure display's color depth to 32 bpp in xorg.conf ?
[04:59] <Adium> Hi I need some help with installing skype skype: Depends: librte1 but it is not installable how do i fix it please?
[05:00] <morphex_> when can i download DCPP on my breezy?
[05:00] <thyrfingo> jrib i installed ubuntu 5.10 and updated is that the same?
[05:00] <jrib> thyrfingo: the same as what?
[05:00] <thyrfingo> updated to the newst
[05:00] <thyrfingo> newest
[05:01] <x-r00t-x> pty,  output : autodetect
[05:01] <jrib> thyrfingo: in your menu, applications > internet > firefox web browser  should exist
[05:01] <slavik> jrib: wrong permission now
[05:01] <scythe128> I am writing a script to start a server... jackd to be exact... I want jackd to run in the background and not to keep my console window tied up. How do I do that?
[05:01] <apokryphos> Adium: are you installing skype from......
[05:01] <apokryphos> !skype
[05:01] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:01] <Adium> apokryphos, from apt-get install
[05:01] <pty> x-r00t-x: set it to ALSA and click 'test'
[05:01] <thyrfingo> its not there
[05:01] <x-r00t-x> pty, ok
[05:01] <apokryphos> Adium: which repository
[05:02] <x-r00t-x> pty, same sound
[05:02] <Adium> the plf i think it is
[05:02] <Adium> hang on
[05:02] <apokryphos> !plf
[05:02] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[05:02] <jrib> thyrfingo: ok, start a terminal.  What does this say:  apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i Installed
[05:02] <Gumby> scythe128: you can start a program with an & at the end and then exit the window by typing exit
[05:02] <apokryphos> Adium: basically, you don't want to be using plf.
[05:02] <pty> x-r00t-x: try with ESD
[05:02] <Gumby> scythe128: not sure if this is what you want/need etc
[05:02] <x-r00t-x> pty, same
[05:02] <scythe128> gumby  Ill check and find out
[05:02] <Adium> so how do i install skype?
[05:02] <jrib> !skype | Adium
[05:02] <thyrfingo> how to start a terminal
[05:02] <ubotu> Adium: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:03] <x-r00t-x> pty, is the any driver for 945gnt on board sound card?
[05:03] <jrib> thyrfingo: applications > accessories > terminal
[05:03] <slicky> hi..  "Edgy Eft already ships with AiGLX so you don't need to install AiGLX."  how do i know if iv really got this installed?
[05:03] <Adium> ok
[05:03] <chaddy> scythe128: screen is worth investigating if you want to detach from terminals...
[05:03] <thyrfingo> im there now
[05:03] <pty> x-r00t-x: i dunno - if you didn't change anything and it used to work I don't see why its a driver issue
[05:04] <apokryphos> slicky: ......if you've got edgy, then you've got aiglx. Clear, right?
[05:04] <scythe128> gumby.. no go, jackd outputs to terminal... it never "completes"
[05:04] <slicky> apokryphos, ok
[05:04] <scythe128> !screen
[05:04] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[05:04] <thyrfingo> jrib its not saying apt-cache policy ubuntu-dektop
[05:05] <Gumby> scythe128: if you press enter you should get a prompt back, you should also be able to redirect the output to file or to /dev/null
[05:05] <JuJuBee> How do I make sure that hxplay is in my PATH?
[05:05] <jrib> thyrfingo: ok, start a terminal.  What does this say:  apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i Installed
[05:05] <jrib> thyrfingo: you made a typo
[05:06] <thyrfingo> wait i want to try something my self, i think i can fix it myself, :D
[05:06] <Adium> thanks guys :)
[05:07] <jamesbrose> Whats the best media player out there?
[05:07] <jamesbrose> Audio Player*
[05:07] <chaddy> I like VLC, jamesbrose
[05:07] <Gumby> depends on what you want.  I like amarok for managing my music.  but its overkill if you just want to load a few songs or playlist or cd
[05:07] <frogzoo> JuJuBee: 'which hxplay'
[05:07] <thyrfingo> i forgot to upgrade to the newst ubuntu
[05:07] <z694034> VLC isn't the best for audio
[05:08] <jamesbrose> I need something like so you can order the artists like in rythembox
[05:08] <fdoving> jamesbrose: i use amarok, i like mpd, i sometimes use beep-media-player (winamp 2.x like)..
[05:08] <Gumby> jamesbrose: try amarok
[05:08] <jamesbrose> Ive tryed it
[05:08] <jamesbrose> I also like something fast
[05:08] <Gumby> IMHO its the best out there for organization.
[05:08] <jamesbrose> using Amarok, i didnt find it was too fast.
[05:08] <fdoving> jamesbrose: did you try beep-media-player?
[05:08] <chaddy> for just an audio player I use music123
[05:08] <jamesbrose> Yeah, but that hasn't got the thing like rythembox
[05:09] <chaddy> ;-)
[05:09] <JuJuBee> frogzoo : I installed the real player and when I try to open a website that streams video, I get a message telling me it cannot find hsplay or realplay in the path.
[05:09] <ana__> hi folks, i am having problems with no sound on my system even tho alsa drivers are installed
[05:09] <brettcar> ;part
[05:09] <x-r00t-x> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1847893
[05:09] <jamesbrose> So, any more sugestions?
[05:09] <pty> best for music organisation imo is quod libet
[05:09] <frogzoo> JuJuBee: log out, log in - fixed
[05:09] <jamesbrose> any more?
[05:10] <defrysk> !audio
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <defrysk> to bad
[05:10] <techNiKal> hi is there any package by which i can see which users are getting connected to my system what time and what ip address ?
[05:10] <kaptengu> stupid question: how do I escape from fullscreen in rdesktop?
[05:10] <JuJuBee> frogzoo : out of computer, or jsut terminal?
[05:11] <x-r00t-x> pty, its was codec problem. i reinstall codec and its giving good sound :)
[05:11] <defrysk> f11 I guess or escape
[05:11] <LjL> techNiKal: cat /var/log/auth.log
[05:11] <jamesbrose> What's JuK like?
[05:11] <defrysk> jamesbrose, a kde player
[05:11] <jamesbrose> ah
[05:11] <frogzoo> JuJuBee: just terminal should be fine
[05:11] <defrysk> jamesbrose, nice but no support for webradio and last-fm
[05:11] <chaddy> tis nice, jamesbrose, good for building playlists, I find
[05:12] <x-r00t-x> pty,  still not like before :(
[05:12] <pty> x-r00t-x: howso ?
[05:12] <anurag_> !bots
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <anurag_> :)
[05:12] <jamesbrose> defrysk, i dont really like playlists i like to scroll through the artists easily
[05:12] <techNiKal> LjL thanks
[05:12] <anurag_> morning
[05:12] <techNiKal> through this log i can identify ?
[05:12] <defrysk> jamesbrose, try juk
[05:12] <x-r00t-x> pty, still su__ks
[05:12] <defrysk> you might like it
[05:12] <pty> jamesbrose: quod libet's album view is the best :)
[05:13] <LjL> techNiKal: hm?
[05:13] <JuJuBee> frogzoo : still cannot find hsplay to use as embeded player.  I am using firefox.
[05:13] <jamesbrose> Yeah, im just trying it now
[05:13] <jamesbrose> looks quite good ;)
[05:13] <jamesbrose> And fast
[05:13] <jamesbrose> Im bored of rhythembox
[05:13] <jamesbrose> and it doesnt recognise all my songs
[05:13] <pty> x-r00t-x: what did you re-install?
[05:14] <jamesbrose> Yeah, so I like a good album/artist view :] ]
[05:14] <x-r00t-x> pty, gstreamer
[05:14] <defrysk> jamesbrose, you must be running dapper
[05:14] <pty> x-r00t-x: so now it doesn't crackle?
[05:14] <jamesbrose> Im running edgy
[05:14] <jamesbrose> :s
[05:14] <x-r00t-x> pty,  still
[05:15] <tristan_> ok this is getting annoying, someone here's got to know
[05:15] <defrysk> jmspeex, install easytag for proper tagging of your musicfiles
[05:15] <pty> x-r00t-x: im tryin to work out whats wrong.  what aspect of the sound quality isn't good?