[00:14] <tsimonq2> (re: vim)
[00:14] <tsimonq2> jawn-smith: Thank you, I apologize for not cleaning up my own mess. :)
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[22:03] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-archive: Hi there. Just uploaded a new version of plasma-wallpaper-dynamic which has a soname bump on libkdynamicwallpaper, and therefore a new binary name thanks to the author. 🙄
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[05:16] <nixternal> man, i am going through the handbook, restructuring it after the KDG & UDG..the content is loaded with :)
[08:56] <robotgeek> morning mdke
[08:56] <Burgundavia> morning mdke
[08:57] <robotgeek> i'm just about to go to bed.
[08:57] <robotgeek> hi Burgundavia :)
[08:58] <robotgeek> anyways, night all. and cya in about 10 days or so!
[08:58] <mdke> have fun
[08:58] <robotgeek> thanks
[09:17] <mdke> mpt: around?
[09:19] <mpt> mdke, yo
[09:19] <mdke> yo indeed.
[09:19] <mpt> sorry
[09:19] <mpt> mdke, Yes sir!
[09:20] <mpt> :-)
[09:20] <mdke> eh?
[09:20] <mpt> nm
[09:21] <mdke> anyway. Still bugging you about topic based help. We need to try and get these categories sorted
[09:21] <mpt> ok
[09:21] <mpt> should I add comments to the wiki page?
[09:21] <mpt> or mail the mailing list?
[09:21] <mdke> either. A tricky question seems to be what to do with the Gnome user guide
[09:21] <mdke> or equivalents for Kubuntu
[09:22] <mpt> There is no good answer pre-Mallard
[09:22] <mpt> but then there never has been, TopicBasedHelp or not
[09:22] <mpt> hmm
[09:22] <mdke> right, but there's no point not using the material
[09:22] <mdke> at the absolute worst we can fork it
[09:23] <mdke> and turn specific sections that we want to use into documents, rather than using it all
[09:23] <mpt> Well, it will always show up in search results
[09:23] <mdke> some parts of it fit well with "documents, files and folders" in your categories
[09:24] <mdke> also "customising settings"
[09:27] <mdke> mpt: also, you can take a look at the sandbox implementation at branches/topic-based-help, if you like
[09:28] <mpt> cool
[09:28] <mpt> I saw some mention of a bzr repository
[09:29] <mdke> Riddell was pushing it. I tried to download it but gave up after nothing happened in 30 minutes
[09:29] <mpt> ok
[09:29] <mpt> I've reported various bugs that bzr's progress feedback isn't quite as good as it could be
[09:30] <mdke> yes, it's appalling - I can understand that downloading the whole history will take a long time (although I didn't at the time), but it doesn't tell you anything, except this 1/4 [09:31] <Burgundavia> big repos take ages
[09:31] <Burgundavia> the marketing one took 20 minutes
[09:33] <mpt> Unfortunately that first part, the revision history, has no feedback at all
[09:34] <mpt> At least, that's the case for a push, probably the same for a pull
[09:34] <mpt> bug 60171
[09:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60171 in bzr "bzr push appears to do nothing for several minutes" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60171
[09:35] <Mithrandir> mpt: it ought to be fairly trivial to first get an estimate of the size you need to pull and then use the progress bar against that.
[09:35] <mpt> yes
[09:41] <mdke> hi lloydinho_
[09:49] <Mithrandir> if somebody has time to proofread the herd 1 announcement on http://err.no/tmp/herd-1.txt, that'd be good.
[09:50] <mpt> mdke, commented on the wiki page
[09:50] <mdke> thanks
[09:54] <mpt> Mithrandir, my only suggestions would be (1) change "system or who" to "system, or anyone who" and (2) "as images" to "images"
[09:54] <Mithrandir> there's not supposed to be a comma in the first one, is there?
[09:55] <Mithrandir> mpt: I rewrote the second bit a little.
[09:55] <mpt> Without the comma, one's brain spends a second or two trying to make a stable system itself be comfortable running into breakage
[09:56] <mpt> actually, that's not true
[09:56] <mpt> It's the "anyone" that solves that problem
[09:57] <mpt> The comma makes the sentence, now with its extra "anyone", breathable :-)
[10:04] <mdke> mpt: at some stage today I'll comment on your comments... got to run now, thanks
[10:09] <lloydinho_> oh, hey guys. Sorry I haven't been around much lately. University deadlines and all...
[01:07] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-server]  Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support)
[01:23] <mpt> Hello lloydinho_
[01:24] <mpt> Look at the mess we've started :-)
[02:08] <mpt> http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Codex:Reorganization -- card-sorting for categorization of help topics
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm trying to edit this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FaqOnIrc to add this information https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade but the inter wiki linking isn't worknig
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> can anyone help?
[02:21] <mpt> Admiral_Chicago, you could just use a normal link
[02:21] <mpt> [https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade link text]
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> mpt: i'm not too good with wikis, what is the formating [www] link right?
[02:22] <Admiral_Chicago> text is the description?
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> nevermind i got it
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[08:50] <LaserJock> hi mdke
[10:44] <nixternal> doc.ubuntu.com stopped building it seems on November 19th
[10:53] <mdke> check if there is an invalid document in one of the build targets
[10:54] <mdke> if "make all" doesn't build, the cronjob for the relevant build will break
[10:58] <nixternal> roger
[10:58] <nixternal> thanks


[11:23] <Ju> Hi all !
[11:24] <Ju> is the communitycouncil mailing list active ? I've mailed it without user not found error but it is not listed here  : http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/
[11:26] <Kamion> no
[11:26] <Seveas> it's not a public list
[11:26] <Kamion> it's not created yet as far as I know
[11:26] <Ju> ok.
[11:26] <Seveas> and apparently not active yet :)
[11:26] <Kamion> at least my RT entry hasn't been closed
[11:26] <Ju> is there anyone reading it ? ;-)
[11:26] <Kamion> kind of hard when it doesn't exist
[11:26] <Kamion> it would go to four people including me; I have not received any mail to it
[11:26] <Ju> ouch... subject France - Eucd ?
[11:27] <Kamion> no
[11:27] <Kamion> announcing it was a mistake
[11:27] <Ju> damn, mdz told me to use this one...
[11:27] <Kamion> I'll poke elmo tomorrow about it
[11:28] <Kamion> tell me your e-mail address and I can mail you when it exists
[11:28] <Ju> anyway to who i can send a request about a very dirty law in France, I would like to know if ubuntu-fr can officially sign an online petition
[11:28] <Ju> ok<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:28] <Ju> and add a banner on its website
[11:29] <Ju> I can paste my mail on pastebin if you want...
[11:29] <Kamion> please not now, I'm about to go to bed
[11:29] <Seveas> ah - the dreaded copyright law?
[11:29] <Kamion> I've added an entry to my to-do list to check with Mark/Jane tomorrow
[11:29] <Ju> ok Kamion thank you !
[11:30] <Ju> yep Seveas, it will go for all european country.... The local french version is very bad...


[16:33] <santa_> hi there
[16:34] <santa_> RikMills: I intend to do fw 5.90
[16:35] <santa_> I wanted to show someone else how KA works for new releases
[16:35] <RikMills> santa_: um.... you are a tad late
[16:35] <santa_> god damn it
[16:36] <santa_> the announcement mail is from 26 min ago
[16:36] <santa_> sigh
[16:36] <RikMills> sorry. I made some head start on git builds as it is a dependency of the upcoming 5.24 beta
[16:38] <RikMills> anyway, all is pushed to git. may need some fixing if there are committed changes compared to my snapshots
[16:41] <santa_> well, I had planned to show someone else how KA works with in an example tomorrow
[16:41] <santa_> but that's not going to be possible obviously
[16:43] <santa_> maybe at some point you should really consider if you want to work "oFf the mark" and alone or you want to do something else
[16:48] <RikMills> sorry
[16:48] <RikMills> in other news, they just reverted the kio polkit stuff
[16:48] <RikMills> sigh
[16:48] <santa_> anyway, let's move on, yes
[16:49] <santa_> I had some peding things in KA I didn't have time to do yet
[16:49] <RikMills> after Nate etc all announced it!
[16:49] <santa_> aha, I'm not very up-to-date with that topic
[16:50] <santa_> will you have time tomorrow or so to discuss the KA things?
[16:50] <RikMills> https://pointieststick.com/2021/12/31/this-week-in-kde-finally-root-file-operations-in-dolphin/
[16:50] <santa_> ahhhh
[16:50] <RikMills> santa_: sure. I am wuite free this weekend, which is why I was very keen to get ahead of things. next week I may not be
[16:51] <RikMills> *quite free
[16:51] <santa_> I think I get it, so it's about fixing the "dolphin can't be executed as root for security reason"
[16:51] <santa_> ok, I will try to allocate some time tomorrow for KA then
[16:51] <RikMills> well dolphin won't root enabled, but file operations that need it can be via polkit
[16:52] <santa_> yes, I know, that's the correct way to go afaik
[16:52] <RikMills> indeed
[16:53] <RikMills> and now: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2022-January/012586.html
[16:53] <RikMills> think I will hang fire for a bit, as not sure that discussion is 100% settled for 5.90
[16:54] <santa_> so it would be a thing for 5.91
[16:55] <RikMills> I guess. I know opensuse want their security team to review, so 5.91 seems reasonable
[16:55] <RikMills> which we could have before freezes
[17:03] <Mamarok> oh my, who had the silly idea of removing the menu bar and putting it to the right side? Any way to revert this? I am probably too dumb to find it in the settings...
[19:11] <Mamarok> found it, the Applications menus daemon was activated and running, which I certainly didn't, so this was changed in the 5.89 update :-(


[03:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> Everyone: Throwing this out there because Tuesday through Thursday I will be unable to be reached because, for the first time in quite a few years, I will be camping at Mt. Rainier National Park with my family, and there will be no cell service.
[03:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> 1) Thursday is Impish EOL. I've already tweeted/FB'd/Mastodon'd about it, and the website news post on Thursday for the EOL announcement is already scheduled.
[03:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> 2) I just uploaded a long-awaited utility for people to remove features they don't need from Ubuntu Studio (called Ubuntu Studio Feature Uninstaller), and it will be included as part of the ubuntustudio-desktop-settings package because it has no reason to exist outside of that context. There are a few things we can do that might integrate it into -installer, but for now this seemed like a decent solution.
[03:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> 3) I just realized this could've been an email.
[03:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> Although, kudos to Matrix for formatting it nicely!
[07:22] <MauroGaspari[m]> Eickmeyer: enjoy your time away from tech!


[00:03] <howie> Im installing ubuntu server on one of my old comps and it show all these ata1.01 status {DRDY} Frozen timeout stuff..
[00:04] <howie> its showing*
[00:04] <howie> should i just keep letting it do its thing or do i need to fix something first?
[00:23] <oh_noes> Anyone want to take a guess at where the console login screen gets the OS string and version from?
[00:23] <oh_noes> I was hoping to append something to it
[00:24] <jmedina>  /etc/issue, /etc/issue.net or /etc/motd, it depends how you log in
[00:28] <oh_noes> thanks
[00:50] <lukehasnoname> uname -a
[00:50] <lukehasnoname> ?
[01:00] <clusty> hey
[01:01] <clusty> i am trying to install a server on a headless machine using pxe
[01:01] <clusty> unfortunately the windows tftp is complaing: http://pastebin.com/m7e5a75b
[01:01] <clusty> any clue how to fix this?
[01:01] <clusty> the dhcp is proivided by the router
[01:02] <clusty> and tftp is running on a nother machine (windows)
[01:43] <oh_noes> Is there  an opem-vm-tools binary package for Ubuntu JeOS 8.04.3 LTS?
[01:43] <oh_noes> Or maybe I should ask, which repository has it?
[02:03] <jgedeon> oh_noes: I don't think it is in the repositories.
[02:04] <jgedeon> oh_noes:  Looks like it made it into intrepid and jaunty
[02:05] <jgedeon> But not hardy
[02:05] <oh_noes> I think thats cos it was never 'originally' super stable for LTS release
[02:05] <oh_noes> but I was hoping now, the code would be acceptable
[02:05] <oh_noes> unless theres another reason
[02:06] <roxy09> hi...i am trying to install a ldap backup server. I read the documentation but still i am not sure if i need to install everything like the main server and then some special configuration ?
[02:07] <roxy09> teh documentation said do somehitng in the serve but im not sure if they mean the main server or the secondary server
[02:07] <jgedeon> oh_noes: Lanchpad has them for hardy.
[02:07] <jgedeon> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/open-vm-tools/+builds
[02:09] <jgedeon> oh_noes: but I think I would just get them for sourceforge and install the newer ones or go with what vmware server 2 has.
[02:09] <oh_noes> jgedeon: they are over 16 months old
[02:10] <jgedeon> http://sourceforge.net/projects/open-vm-tools/files/open-vm-tools/open-vm-tools-2009.06.18-172495.tar.gz/download
[02:10] <oh_noes> jgedeon: I need to automatically deploy JeOS VM's with it on there though .. is there a deb-src of them anywhere?
[02:10] <oh_noes> the sourceforge page onyl has the source ...
[02:10] <oh_noes> (tar.gz src)
[02:10] <jgedeon> Oh ok
[02:11] <twb> Debian source packages are available within the normal package archive.
[02:11] <twb> Add deb-src entries to your sources.list, then use "apt-get source open-vm-tools"
[02:12] <twb> If you need a newer version of a package, you should investigate -updates and -backports before building from upstream source, since packaged versions often include significant integration and bug fixes that are not available upstream.
[02:12] <twb> !updates
[02:12] <twb> !hardy-updates
[02:12] <twb> Bah.
[02:12] <oh_noes> twb: how would you then recommend for me to quickly deploy/install it on i386 hardy boxes here as part of an internal distribution?
[02:13] <twb> oh_noes: you maintain an SOE?
[02:13] <oh_noes> Compile and create my own i386 deb from deb-src?
[02:13] <oh_noes> Yes
[02:13] <twb> You should first try to use the .deb unchanged from, say, intrepid.
[02:14] <oh_noes> twb: ok i'll; give that a go
[02:14] <twb> That, or the version in hardy-backports or hardy-updates
[02:15] <twb> According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/open-vm-tools, that specific package is not available in any hardy native repo.
[02:16] <twb> So yeah, first try installing from the newer release unchanged, then if that doesn't work try apt-get build-dep open-vm-tools && apt-get source --build open-vm-tools to generate a binary rebuild for hardy.
[02:16] <twb> If *that* doesn't work, you'll need to do more investigation -- possibly changing versions in debian/control or similar
[02:18] <roxy09> Hi...somebody know about backup ldap server..i am trying to install a ldap backup server. I read the documentation but still i am not sure if i need to install everything like the main server and then some special configuration ?
[02:18] <twb> What is an ldap backup server?
[02:19] <twb> Do you mean an LDAP server that acts a slave to a master server, with failover to the slave if the master goes offline?
[02:19] <roxy09> yes
[02:19] <twb> Dunno about that, sorry.
[02:19] <twb> You can also try #openldap or similar.
[02:20] <oh_noes> am I drunk, or is there no way to download the deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/open-vm-tools ?
[02:21] <roxy09> sorry im new in the ofrum...how i can go there
[02:21] <roxy09> forum
[02:22] <roxy09> i got
[02:39] <qman__> oh_noes, click either "amd64" or "i386", with respect to your architecture
[02:39] <qman__> it's a little unintuitive, I'll agree, but you click those, not the package name
[03:51] <roxy09> hi, I am using my server as nat and there is some users that are download bad content from internet by bitorrent...somebody know how I can detect who was the user or how i can block bitorrent?
[04:05] <tsrk_> roxy09, you could probably block the bittorrent ports somehow (sorry, I can't say any more specifically than that, but you should be able to find documentation that explains how to block ports)
[04:14] <roxy09> the problmes i bittorrent use any port
[04:15] <twb> To block bittorrent you want to use the L7 iptables module.
[04:15] <twb> http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/
[04:16] <twb> !learn l7 is is a classifier for Linux's Netfilter that identifies packets based on application layer data. It can classify packets as [peer-to-peer data] regardless of port.
[04:30] <roxy09> sonf good thanks...i am reading that...also do you know some program that i can detect traffic and conection by IP address /user and give me some statitic information. I would like to detect who is doing a bad use from internet as we are having a lot of legal problems because that
[05:34] <roxy09> other question...i am installindg a wireless somebody know how do that to autentificate with my ldap server?
[05:58] <quizme> how can i tell if mysql is working ?
[06:10] <roxy09> hi ...i need to configure a print server with samba and use a ldap server ..somebody know how configura it?
[06:20] <roxy09> alo
[06:21] <roxy09> hola?
[06:22] <twb> !es
[06:39] <dpreacher> hello people, I need help with debugging an issue of shell logins taking quite a long time on ubuntu server 8.10 64-bit. it started all of a sudden in the last 1-2 weeks
[06:39] <dpreacher> any and every help is very much appreciated
[06:39] <dpreacher> so far things i tried
[06:39] <dpreacher> 1. tried to strace ssh since i primarily login via ssh.
[06:40] <dpreacher> 2. however found that local logins took that delay as well.
[06:41] <dpreacher> 3. also looked at dmesg found 560 lines with audit in them, hinting at inet6 which i believe is for ipv6 which we are not requiring...however this is not necessarily triggered at login
[06:42] <jmarsden> dpreacher: Did you try creating a new account and logging into that, so you have a brand new unmodified ~/.bashrc ?  Still slow?
[06:42] <dpreacher> checkin in a moment jmarsden,
[06:45] <jmarsden> dpreacher: OK.  If it is still slow, in that new account try    bash --login --noprofile    and see if that is slow.
[06:46] <dpreacher> jmarsden, can i try the 2nd suggestion before creating a new user
[06:46] <jmarsden> Sure, if you want :)
[06:48] <simplexio> dpreacher: i had that problem too.. fixed it removing Private directory mounting from pam.d
[06:48] <dpreacher> hmm...private directory was local path?
[06:48] <dpreacher> simplexio?
[06:50] <dpreacher> where do i check for nfs/cifs mounts? esp. the latter one?
[06:50] <simplexio> dpreacher: yes.
[06:51] <simplexio> i just removed it from pam.d and added line to motd to hint people use ecrypfs-private-mount
[06:52] <dpreacher> jmarsden,  bash --login --noprofile logged in absolutely instantly
[06:52] <dpreacher> im thinking /etc/bash.bashrc may be a possible suspect
[06:52] <jmarsden> dpreacher: OK.  Does    bas --login    do the same?
[06:52] <dpreacher> have to check that,
[06:53] <jmarsden> dpreacher: Make that    bash --login
[06:53] <dpreacher> bash --login ? without --noprofile? jmarsden
[06:53] <jmarsden> Right... if --noprofile makes the difference then the issue is something being done in the profile stuff...
[06:54] <jmarsden> Let's confirm that before looking at specific files :)
[06:54] <dpreacher> nope jmarsden, it went in quickly. i also put time command before bash and the times recorded were very very minutesimal
[06:55] <jmarsden> OK.  So either that is because whatever was taking time is already done for that user, and subsequent times it is therefore quick, or else it is not profile stuff that is the cause.
[06:57] <dpreacher> well i did su - user2 and then it took a real long time again, but running bash --login on that account also started another bash almost instantly
[06:57] <dpreacher> jmarsden
[06:58] <dpreacher> if i wanted to check if there are some unused nfs or cifs mounts, where'd i look, fstab itself? jmarsden
[06:58] <simplexio> mount tells allready mounted
[06:59] <jmarsden> Sounds like it is doing something that is slow "first time", but quick thereafter.  What is in anyway "unusual" about this machine?  What have you manually configured on it that might be worth investigating?
[07:01] <jmarsden> And yes, you can read /etc/fstab to see what network file systems are configured there.
[07:01] <dpreacher2> jmarsden, my net dropped did u get all 3 points?
[07:01] <jmarsden> No, I saw nothing at all...
stuff that are unusual on this machine:
1. RAID setup
2. 3 NICs. 2 ISP lines and 1 LAN
3. its the gateway and DNS for the intranet
[07:02] <psyferre> Hey folks, I'm having some trouble finding definite information anywhere online... if I install 64bit ubuntu, do I need to do anything special to make sure I install 64bit mysql?
[07:02] <dpreacher2> i dunno what else to include. nothing related to bash or logins was configured or installed jmarsden
[07:02] <psyferre> Or will apt get install mysql-server just automatically pull down the 64 bit package?
[07:03] <jmarsden> dpreacher2: Have you checked that DNS is working well, and that the machine can look up its own name quickly?
[07:03] <jmarsden> psyferre: Do nothing special, apt-get is smart enough to know what architecture your machine is.
[07:03] <psyferre> jmarsden: awesome... thanks
[07:03] <jmarsden> No problem.
[07:03] <dpreacher2> i can access the website on the server using the fqdn of the ubuntu server machine
[07:05] <jmarsden> I'm guessing... long delays can be DNS related and you have a more complex than usual network setup...
[07:06] <dpreacher3> hello again
[07:07] <dpreacher3> whoa /me
[07:07] <dpreacher3> jmarsden i need to step out for a while...will come back soon and resume this.
[07:07] <dpreacher3> thanks for your help and time
[07:07] <dpreacher3> thanks simplexio as well
[07:07] <jmarsden> OK... 11pm here... I may not may not be here much longer... need to sleep sometime :)
[07:34] <altf2o> just out of curiosity, has anyone actually gotten Samba + LDAP working w/ the guides?  RX bytes:84614245 (80.6 MiB)  TX bytes:5748325 (5.4 MiB)
[08:08] <twb> Of course, that wraps around (rests to zero) at some point
[08:21] <_ruben> twb: ipconfig is a windows command ;)
[08:21] <twb> Sorry, I always get p and f backwards.
[08:28] <_ruben> ;)
[08:46] <roxy09> Hi sorry i mean get some log that shows me about traffic or quantity donwloaded by Ip or user?
[08:53] <_ruben> roxy09: one solution would be to use pmacctd .. tho there's several alternatives as well
[09:04] <jmarsden> roxy09: ntop might be worth a look (web interface rather than a log file)
[09:35] <chronodekar> when configuring a server with 8GB of RAM, how much can be allocated for virtualization ?
[09:38] <twb> All of it
[09:39] <dayo> i need to set up an ssh server, so that a user can remotely access his home dir. this is my network setup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/223359/  i'm thinking i need to connect the external interface of my ssh server to the router, and the internal to the switch? i've never setup an ssh server before, so i need some advice, please.
[09:44] <twb> dayo: you have a application router, and a separate Ubuntu server?
[09:44] <twb> dayo: that is, you are not running Ubuntu on your router?
[09:45] <dayo> twb: correct. cisco 1800 router, and my ubuntu server hooked up to it, via router's switch
[09:45] <twb> Does your router do NAT?
[09:46] <twb> i.e. does your Ubuntu server already have a public IP address on the internet?
[09:49] <dayo> twb: yes, it has a public and a private IP
[09:52] <twb> Then all you need do is install openssh-server
[11:03] <thefish> anyone know of any small (1u) hardware with about 4 nics to run JEOS/iptables/openvpn on?
[11:05] <andol> thefish: Regarding small hardware with 4 nics perhap a soekris might be a solution? Besides that, not really sure how well JEOS applies to a non-virtual machine.
[11:06] <thefish> i really like that it doesnt install any other kaka on the box, ive been running quite a few on steel with no issues
[11:06] <thefish> will check out soekris, thanks
[11:15] <error404notfound> I had Intrepid and i upgraded to jaunty. Now i get "You are running a kernel from Ubuntu Intrepid.  Ksplice Uptrack for. Ubuntu only supports kernels from Ubuntu Jaunty." Any idea how to fix it?
[11:17] <error404notfound> how can i upgrade to latest kernel?
[11:27] <ogra> error404notfound, seems you didnt properly upgrade, did you use the documented upgrade procedure ?
[11:27] <error404notfound> ogra, i just did a dist-upgrade to keep intrepid to latest and then i change repo to that of jaunty and did a dist-upgrade again.
[11:28] <ogra> error404notfound, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[11:28] <ogra> at the bottom
[11:28] <error404notfound> ahan... i see...
[11:28] <error404notfound> lemme check
[11:30] <error404notfound> ogra, what can i do now?
[11:30] <error404notfound> the do-release-upgrade says that there are no new upgrades
[11:34] <error404notfound> ogra, there?
[11:36] <error404notfound> anyone else here who could help me a badly-upgraded jaunty?
[11:47] <alexm> error404notfound: i'd take a look at what do-release-upgrade does and see if there's some package missing in your system
[11:49] <error404notfound> its python and i dont know much python
[11:56] <alexm> since it seems the problem is only with the kernel, make sure you have jaunty kernel installed, take a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/linux-image
[11:57] <alexm> do you have a server install?
[11:58] <alexm> if so, make sure you have package linux-image-server installed, it should bring all the other dependencies
[12:07] <error404notfound> alexm, i am using a vps on xen
[12:08] <alexm> so you upgraded the domU from intrepid to jaunty, is that right?
[12:10] <rose_> hello everyone...I need to install one samba print server but i need to authetificate with another ldap server. I just tried but doesn't work..I installed nss and pam, but still i dont know what i must to put in the configuration
[12:14] <rose_> ==#
[12:15] <alexm> error404notfound: are both them dom0 and the domU running jaunty?
[12:15] <alexm> s/both them/both the/
[12:15] <error404notfound> nope, dom0 is not even ubuntu , i doubt
[12:19] <alexm> but do you know which kernel is running dom0? both dom0 and domU use the same kernel version usually
[12:21] <alexm> rose_: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/samba-ldap.html
[12:22] <alexm> but note that it's the server guide for jaunty
[12:27] <error404notfound> alexm, any idea about: http://pastebin.com/m771347f5 ?
[12:31] <alexm> since uptrack is broken if fails too when removing it
[12:31] <error404notfound> any workarounds?
[12:32] <alexm> trying fixing broken packages first, apt-get install -f
[12:32] <alexm> without any other option
[12:33] <error404notfound> did...
[12:33] <error404notfound> again tried to uninstall and got same thing
[12:36] <error404notfound> alexm, btw dom0 uses the xen.org kernel.  it's a heavily modified 2.6.18-8
[12:37] <alexm> that's the problem then, jaunty provides 2.6.28
[12:39] <error404notfound> 2 major issues then: 1. Kernel, 2. Ksplice, i would say lets solev 2 first and then 1 as i am fine with 2.6.27 for now
[12:39] <alexm> anyway, are you sure you can run ksplice on a domU?
[12:40] <error404notfound> i want to uninstall it, dont need it...
[12:40] <alexm> ok then
[12:41] <alexm> so the problem is the broken uptrack, right?
[12:41] <alexm> dif the apt-get install -f do or say something?
[12:42] <error404notfound> it installed ksplice back and some other stuff...
[12:46] <\sh> hmm.....25x (BL465C [2x QUAD Opterons 2.7GHz, 32GB, 2x146GB SAS] * stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes<PHONE_NUMBER>) == max load of 39 ==> no io left for network ==> no io left for output ==> waiting for self destruction
[12:47] <alexm> so now you can try to remove ksplice again
[12:47] <\sh> HP BL7000C enclosure reports 4KW power consumption...that's green IT ;)
[12:53] <error404notfound> alexm, same issues
[12:55] <alexm> i haven't been able to find uptrack package in ubuntu, and it seems a dependency of ksplice, so try to dpkg -r uptrack ksplice and see if you get more details of the problem
[12:57] <error404notfound> alexm, http://pastebin.com/m15325bc
[13:03] <alexm> it seems that the install/remove hooks test the kernel, you'll have to get around them
[13:04] <alexm> find those hooks in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[13:05] <alexm> they should be named after the package, i.e. uptrack* and ksplice*
[13:05] <alexm> grep "You are running a kernel from Ubuntu Intrepid" /var/lib/dpkg/{uptrack,ksplice}*
[13:06] <alexm> then find the place where the test is run and comment it
[13:06] <alexm> finally, try to remove those packages again
[13:07] <alexm> sorry, i forgot /info/ in the grep above
[13:07] <alexm> grep "You are running a kernel from Ubuntu Intrepid" /var/lib/dpkg/info/{uptrack,ksplice}*
[13:08] <error404notfound> nothing comes up
[13:13] <alexm> then search for "You are running a kernel" only
[13:14] <error404notfound> nope, nothing.... i am also getting the same message in a cron every now and then
[13:14] <error404notfound> even did grep "You are running" /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[13:16] <alexm> ok, please do... ls /var/lib/dpkg/{uptrack,ksplice}*
[13:18] <error404notfound> http://pastebin.com/m16769fe1
[13:20] <error404notfound> in cron.d i have uptrack which is http://pastebin.com/mc23f3d1 and it prints the same output as at the install time
[13:21] <alexm> can you show me /var/lib/dpkg/info/uptrack.prerm ?
[13:22] <error404notfound> http://pastebin.com/m56b32bce
[13:23] <error404notfound> moreover like the cron: http://pastebin.com/m4bee95cb
[13:24] <alexm> try running "uptrack-remove --all -y --no-network" and see if the message about intrepid kernel appears?
[13:25] <error404notfound> damn, yes..
[13:25] <error404notfound> commenting it
[13:26] <alexm> but if you comment it out, maybe there will be some files left in the system
[13:26] <alexm> it's up to you
[13:26] <alexm> either you try to find out what uptrack-remove is doing or comment it on the .prerm
[13:26] <error404notfound> but there is no work around, is there?
[13:27] <error404notfound> btw diid you refer t http://pastebin.com/m368fe1a8 ?
[13:27] <alexm> yes
[13:28] <error404notfound> i have found the script that executes on uptrack-remove
[13:29] <rose_> hi please...somebody can helo me...I need to install one samba print server but i need to authetificate with another ldap server. I just tried but doesn't work..I installed nss and pam, but still i dont know what i must to put in the configuration
[13:30] <error404notfound> alexm, how much of a good idea is to run unattended-upgrades or ksplice with autoinstall?
[13:31] <alexm> i know nothing about ksplice, sorry
[13:36] <rose_> or how I can add a domain member server to PDC?
[14:31] <resno> What do I use to parse apache_logs, to get stats on something?
[14:33] <andol> resno: I kind of like to use awstats.
[14:34] <resno> andol: how do i get awstats to go through my stats? I have never done this before....
[14:35] <resno> I need stats on a specific page.
[14:47] <shivek> Hi everyone ^^D
[14:48] <resno> hello
[14:50] <shivek> Any one has anproblem ?
[14:50] <benc> by default does the time on ubuntu server syncing from the web?
[14:54] <resno> oh, i have a logs, that i want to get stats off of. is installing awstats and running that the best way?
[15:10] <Steve[mbp]> Morning Everyone!
[16:05] <yann2> hi... ok not too sure if this is the best place to ask for this, please guide me if it's not
[16:06] <yann2> I am setting up a CUPS print server for our office - and wanted to know if these drivers: http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0031040.asp  were packaged  - and if not, what the steps would be to get them packaged?
[16:06] <yann2> I couldnt find any package that contained those - and it's all GPL
[16:14] <_ruben> yann2: #ubuntu-motu would be a good start i think
[17:06] <shivek> Hi everyone ^^D
[17:41] <|404NotFound|> i have accidently set www-data:www-data to be owner of /var.  In the wall.
[17:47] <Jeeves_> To look outside, or into another room.
[17:47] <error404notfound> Jeeves_, yes...
[17:47] <Jeeves_> Make a hole in it
[17:47] <error404notfound> why?
[17:47] <Jeeves_> stick your head through it
[17:47] <Jeeves_> let youselve fall into the glass
[17:47] <error404notfound> Jeeves_, For God's sake....
[17:48] <Jeeves_> 18:44  * error404notfound is thinking of possible ways to suicide...
[17:48] <resno> !topic
[17:48] <resno> !ot
[17:48] <Jeeves_> Not even jokes are allowed
[17:48] <Jeeves_> pff
[17:49] <error404notfound> so do i have to do it all the way up, i had no backups, i spent a whole week in setting up this server from scratch using a lot of guides...
[17:49] <error404notfound> Jeeves_, thanks, that really helped...
[17:52] <error404notfound> so is there a solution or?
[18:05] <howie> anyone know what : Grub loading, please wait..... Error 18.   means?
[18:07] <resno> howie: http://tinyurl.com/m954qx
[18:08] <howie> sweet
[18:09] <resno> howie: does that help you along?
[18:10] <howie> more then i possibly thought.... lmgty is awesome...
[18:12] <resno> ive been waiting for the perfect time to use it
[18:13] <howie> that was great i felt like i got trout slapped for the first time..
[18:31] <jtimberman> mathiaz: ping
[19:51] <mathiaz> jtimberman: hey
[19:52] <axisys> how do I migrate to software raid 1 without resintalling the OS ? i have not see a complete once for newer ubuntu or debian.. like mkinitrd should be replaced by mkinitramfs and other small details.. looking for a complete how to for newer ubuntu
[20:07] <ahasenack> any idea why /dev/kvm is not created with group 'kvm'? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/223781/
[20:07] <ahasenack> the udev rule seems ok
[20:08] <ahasenack> ah, an "/etc/init.d/udev reload" was missing
[20:08] <ivoks> hm...
[20:08] <ivoks> :)
[20:08] <ahasenack> yeah, I just installed the kvm package
[20:08] <ahasenack> seems it doesn't reload udev in the end, but loads the module anyway
[20:17] <MrGlass> hi
[20:17] <MrGlass> how do i install pdo/pdo_mysql?
[20:23] <hocuspocus> can anyone tell me how to install my printer from the installation cd to ubuntu?
[20:26] <laytone> Does anyone have a good recomendation for a Web Hosting Panel application that will run on the latest ubuntu server?
[20:26] <resno> laytone: im partial to cpanel..
[20:27] <laytone> cpanel will only run on a Red Hat or CentOS server,  that was my first choice as well
[20:28] <laytone> Any Other Ideas?
[20:30] <resno> laytone: let me google it
[20:31] <laytone> resno:  thank you but you really dont have to spend time doing research for me.  I was comming here to ask anyone if they had any ideas from experience.  :)
[20:31] <resno> laytone: i was curious for myself. as i love ubuntu.
[20:32] <resno> i know there ispconfig...
[20:33] <resno> laytone: here is a link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294169
[20:33] <resno> Plesk is a popular one
[20:33] <laytone> I was looking into plesk and they support ubuntu up to version 8.04 is there any chance it would run in the newer 9.x
[20:34] <laytone> resno: thank you for that link btw I will look it over now
[20:41] <laytone> resno: I'm thinking webmin might be the way to go
[20:42] <resno> laytone: cool, glad it was helpful.
[20:42] <resno> laytone: dont run a ubunut server, but will soon. want to make it can keep up with centos and others
[20:45] <laytone> resno: Yes it seems like everything is supported by centos, red hat and freebsd.  Thanks for your help though
[21:14] <abel408> Hello everyone! My Ubuntu server running KVM has been crashing as of late. About 3 times a day. It is usaully rock solid. Are there any logs I can check?
[21:15] <abel408> The server actually still has power and fans are spinning, but it appears to be dead. Monitor doesn't show anything either
[21:19] <pwnguin> automatic suspend?
[21:20] <pwnguin> abel408: is the host server "crashing", or the virtual hosts?
[21:20] <abel408> The host
[21:21] <pwnguin> got a serial cable handy?
[21:21] <abel408> I do...
[21:22] <pwnguin> i wonder if theres a way to get the kernel to dump the ringbuffer to console
[21:25] <pwnguin> but basically, you can hook up to the serial console and see what sort of messages go across it
[21:25] <abel408> Do you think it's software or hardware?
[21:25] <pwnguin> i guess i should ask
[21:25] <pwnguin> by kvm you mean kernel virtual machine?
[21:26] <abel408> yea
[21:26] <pwnguin> my guess would be software
[21:29] <pwnguin> abel408: obviously you can check the stuff in /var/log, but the most interesting stuff is in dmesg
[21:29] <pwnguin> and that's stored in kernel RAM, and won't survive a reboot
[21:30] <abel408> yea... Nothings in the logs
[21:30] <pwnguin> it should also be printed out to serial console, which you can hook up to with minicom (or your favorite remote console logger)
[21:33] <abel408> Yea I might do that and leave it running over night. I'm wondering if this is what I'm looking for: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/CrashdumpRecipe
[22:54] <jhujhiti> does anyone have any idea if it's possible to migrate a kvm machine into a qemu one? preferrably live migration.
[22:55] <jhujhiti> i have a pre-svm opteron driving me nuts
[23:10] <bsmith> I recently installed ubuntu server 8.04 LTS on a system that previously had 9.04 server on it.  I installed the OS from unetbootin for an .iso to a usb.  I received an error 21:
[23:14] <bsmith> Can anyone help me
[23:24] <bsmith> Can anyone help me
[23:35] <bsmith> Can anyone help me
[23:37] <soren> bsmith: The easiest fix is to reinstall from a real CD.
[23:37] <bsmith> Don't have a sata cdrom
[23:38] <soren> bsmith: I've heard of people with similar problems when isntalling from USB.
[23:38] <bsmith> soren:Did they fix it without a cdrom drive
[23:38] <soren> bsmith: I believe it's because the installer gets confused by the USB drive (thinking it's the first hard drive, and the real hard drive is the second drive).
[23:39] <soren> This is definitely fixed in 9.04. Why did you downgrade?
[23:39] <bsmith> soren: makes sense, is there a solution
[23:39] <soren> bsmith: Yes. Install from a CD or a newer version of Ubuntu. Or fix grub afterwards.
[23:40] <soren> The first two options are simple. The latter less so if you're not too familiar with grub.
[23:40] <bsmith> I downgraded because I couldn't get any of the media serving software to work properly.  I tried jinzora, ampache, gnump3d, I found directions that seemed promising for 8.04 thought the downgrade would be easy
[23:40] <bsmith> Can you elaborate on the last one "fix grub afterwards"
[23:44] <bsmith> soren: Can you elaborate on the last one "fix grub afterwards"


[08:25] <fm__> anybody else having updated to unity 5.14 yet? I have a massive focus problem. windows that i go to by alt-tab are not focused...
[08:29] <fm__> i am running ubuntu 12.04 any launchpad id appreciated ...
[17:44] <jacobw> i've been looking for information about bamf for some time now, can someone point me towards it's documentation?
[17:45] <jacobw> the last time checked in /usr/share/docs/*bamf* there were simply placeholders saying 'yeah, we should write some documentation', has this been done yet?
[20:07]  * Debolaz sometimes wish the dash would open a bit faster.
[20:08] <Debolaz> It's probably my main criticism of Unity at the moment, now that compiz has become reasonably stable.
[20:25] <Debolaz> (Though its of course better than what it used to be)
[20:36] <dodel_> Hello. Can i compile unity for debian?
[20:36] <dodel_> Or is it a package already for debain to install?


[01:36] <Resistance> ugh
[01:36] <Resistance> anyone here able to help me figure out how to get my blog into planet.ubuntu.com?
[01:36] <Resistance> its a wordpress blog
[01:37] <rmg51> that sounds like a pleia2 thing :-D
[01:37] <Resistance> indeed
[01:38] <Resistance> but pleia2 is in the channel (hopefully)
[01:39] <MutantTurkey> yeah where is pleia when you need her social skills!
[01:39] <Resistance> :P
[01:39] <rmg51> afk at the moment
[01:39] <Resistance> well i poked the MOTUs just in case they know
[01:57] <Resistance> anyone know where pleia2 is?
[01:58] <Resistance> or should we assume she's missing
[01:58] <Resistance> for unknown reasons
[03:07] <pleia2> Resistance: instructions are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu#Adding_Your_Blog
[03:10] <Resistance> pleia2:  yes, i'm aware
[03:10] <Resistance> i had other questions that were...
[03:11] <Resistance> confusing...
[03:11]  * Resistance basically had to gut his PHP config to fix a memory allocation issue, as well as fixing the permalink formatting, among other stuff
[03:11] <Resistance> pleia2:  finally got around to actually putting it into the thing's config though
[03:12] <Resistance> (although i noticed the user entry before mine had a syntax fail, but i didnt fix it)
[03:12] <Resistance> (specifically, fae = <something>.png)
[03:12] <Resistance> instead of face =
[03:12] <pleia2> I'm about to run out the door, did you have a specific question?
[03:13] <Resistance> nope, figured it out
[03:14] <pleia2> ok :)
[03:56] <Resistance> hmm
[03:56] <Resistance> pleia2:  when you get back, got a question for ya, because the feed is 408-ing on planet.u.c
[04:15] <Resistance> s/the feed/my feed/
[04:29] <pleia2> Resistance: what feed are you using?
[04:29] <Resistance> pleia2:  https://blog.trekweb.org/categories/ubuntu/feed/
[04:29] <Resistance> (its an SSL'd blog)
[04:31] <Resistance> (its entirely possible i did not paste it correctly into the ubuntu-planet config, but that's semi unlikely)
[04:32] <Resistance> while i have you, is there a way to combine sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install <package> into one command?
[04:32]  * Resistance is writing a tutorial for installing nginx stable onto Ubuntu and then configure it for PHP
[04:32] <pleia2> apt-get update && apt-get install package
[04:32] <Resistance> prepending with sudo in the beginning?
[04:32] <pleia2> I don't know why it's not working, sorry :(
[04:32] <pleia2> maybe planet doesn't support https?
[04:32] <Resistance> might not, but who would i poke about that?
[04:33] <Resistance> (if i have to, i'll de-https the thing, but meh)
[04:33] <pleia2> you could submit a ticket<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:33] <pleia2> that goes to canonical IS, who manages the tech side of it
[04:34] <Resistance> i'll send them a ticket after this post... (tis a LONG one with lots of <pre> tags and in-line <span>s
[04:34] <Resistance> )
[04:47] <jthan> anyone have any ccie study guides?
[04:48] <jthan> I'm taking a test on cyber security late this week to enter a contest for a scholarship..
[05:50] <Resistance> if anyone wouldnt mind reading over my HOW-TOs i just wrote for setting up nginx on Ubuntu, i'd appreciate your insights/input/opinions.  https://blog.trekweb.org/categories/ubuntu/nginx/
[05:54] <Resistance> pleia2:  i just submitted the ticket :p
[05:55] <andrew> Morning
[05:55] <Resistance> good morning to thee :)
[05:55] <andrew> ( pleia2: evening )
[05:56] <Resistance> well, my blog is up and running...
[05:56] <Resistance> and theoretically is in the planet.ubuntu.com config
[05:56] <Resistance> but...
[05:57] <Resistance> it doesnt get aggregated... ends up with 408 timeouts :/
[05:58] <Resistance> anyways, bleh
[09:53] <JonathanD> Good morning.
[10:09] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[10:19] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[10:21] <rmg51> o/
[13:04] <teddy-dbear> morning
[13:19] <anduril> morning
[13:50] <JonathanD> morning
[14:08] <andrew> Is there a way to disable LibreOffice (or OpenOffice) from trying to recover a document?
[14:18] <InHisName> del filename.doc
[14:22] <andrew> I'm looking for a solution that is perminint
[14:24] <andrew> Since the workflow is to essentially force close libreoffice when it's no longer needed (no changes are made to the document the whole time it's open)
[14:47] <rmg51> andrew: look under options load/save
[14:48] <rmg51> there is an auto recovery option to save every so many minutes
[18:09] <pleia2> jedijf: I'll need to pick your brain about NTR and Mt Airy Learning Tree in the near future
[18:09] <pleia2> maybe find kevin too
[18:54] <jedijf> you get invited and my brain gets picked
[18:55] <jedijf> pleia2: ^^^^ :)
[18:57] <pleia2> :D
[18:57] <jedijf> pleia2: here it is in a nutshell - the masses want free windows, as soon as that isn't the case, they go back. If you can prevent that, the next thing to keep them is steady and consistent support(live), or they revert to that cousin who knows computers...
[18:58] <pleia2> "go back"?
[18:58] <jthan> to windows
[18:58] <jthan> the real one
[18:58] <jedijf> to other os'
[18:58] <jedijf> yes
[18:59] <pleia2> but windows collapses into a pile of goo if you don't maintain it too
[18:59] <jthan> but it's familiar goo
[18:59] <jedijf> today the 1st step iseasier to accomplish with working java and flash, the support is vital though
[18:59] <jthan> or they ignore its consistency and use it at a snail's pace
[19:00] <pleia2> jthan: doesn't matter, I've seen windows labs with half dead windows machines because they aren't maintained (it's how we got into one school, their windows lab is useless so the teachers ask us for ubuntu in classrooms)
[19:00] <Resistance> pleia2:  everything collapses into a pile of fubarish goo
[19:00] <Resistance> :P
[19:00] <Resistance> eventually
[19:00] <pleia2> jedijf: noted
[19:00] <Resistance> pleia2:  also, the IS people at canonical received the ticket regarding planet.u.c and transferred it to the 'vanguard' according to the email
[19:00] <jthan> pleia2: I have seen the same in my very own school. I just like to play devils advocate.
[19:01] <pleia2> everything is web-based now, so we've had to bump up the ram in systems we support at partimus, nothing under 1G these days
[19:01] <pleia2> Resistance: that means they're paying attention to it and it should be looked at within the next few days
[19:01] <Resistance> yep
[19:01] <Resistance> 'tis what the email said :P
[19:01] <pleia2> ok, I thought you were asking :)
[19:02] <Resistance> nope, just stating your idea was a good one :)
[19:02] <pleia2> jedijf: there wasn't a lab at NTR, that was just laptop recycling, right? MALT was the only lab
[19:04] <pleia2> and how long did MALT last? Why did it end?
[19:05] <rmg51> MALT still is
[19:06] <pleia2> I meant the lab :)
[19:06] <Resistance> wtfh
[19:07] <Resistance> the lp librarian exploded
[19:07] <rmg51> lack of interest would be a good guess
[19:07] <Resistance> now i cant attempt my Precise -> Oneiric -> Natty backport of php 5.3.8
[19:07] <Resistance> :/
[19:08] <pleia2> rmg51: on whose side, volunteers or the MALT folks?
[19:08] <pleia2> (I am writing a talk about deployments in community centers and schools, not just asking for fun)
[19:09] <rmg51> volunteers
[19:09]  * pleia2 nods
[19:09] <rmg51> mostly the leader
[19:09] <pleia2> it's a lot of work and not much reward
[19:10] <rmg51> we worked with the computer volunteers group
[19:10] <pleia2> they lost interest?
[19:10] <rmg51> leader did
[19:10] <pleia2> gotcha
[19:11] <rmg51> life got in the way
[19:11] <pleia2> so on the ground support and strong allies within the organization are vital
[19:11] <pleia2> (same is true for Partimus out here)
[19:12] <rmg51> you need good leadership to keep it going
[19:13] <pleia2> to keep things organized, make sure things get done, have goals? or ...?
[19:14] <rmg51> just to keep it ging
[19:14] <rmg51> if no one leads no one will follow
[19:14] <pleia2> ok
[19:14] <pleia2> thanks :)
[19:14] <rmg51> it all just falls apart
[19:14]  * pleia2 nods
[19:15] <pleia2> how about on the technology side, LTSP work out well?
[19:15] <rmg51> yep
[19:15] <rmg51> we were there only one day each month
[19:16] <Resistance> oooooh ... pleia2 did you know they suspended the lp publishers, and thats put the ubuntu archives and what not on hold?
[19:16]  * Resistance wasnt aware of this ujntil about 20 minutes ago
[19:16] <rmg51> but it worked when they needed it
[19:18] <JonathanD> Victory!
[19:36] <Adom|office> hot pockets = nerd fuel
[19:37] <Adom|office> i could eat hot pockets for lunch forever
[19:38] <pleia2> Resistance: I do all my dev work on the Debian side, don't pay much attention to lp ubuntu dev stuff
[19:38] <pleia2> so no, I didn't know that :)
[19:39] <Resistance> :P
[19:39] <Resistance> pleia2:  its lousing me up
[19:39] <Resistance> i need to test-build php5-5.3.8 from precise -> natty
[19:39] <Resistance> and my pbuilder environments are failing
[19:39] <Resistance> (because they're evil, old, and crupted
[19:53] <jedijf> pleia2: rmg51 i think the biggest killer was the move, they lost their core
[19:54] <rmg51> Greg lost interest
[19:55] <rmg51> he never pushed to get a room setup
[19:56] <pleia2> jedijf: old core couldn't make it to new location, or didn't have inspiration to re-setup the lab, or something else?
[19:56] <jedijf> pleia2: more of the first
[19:56]  * pleia2 nods
[19:57] <jedijf> and felt like they lost the mt airy part....
[19:57] <jedijf> i remember some saying that specifically. It moved to a more affluent area, and i guess they felt disenfranchised
[19:58] <pleia2> ah, yeah
[19:59] <jedijf> ntr is worth revisiting. we were 4 years too early. now they caught on
[20:00] <jedijf> now that they are selling xubu boxes
[20:00] <pleia2> sweet
[20:00] <pleia2> I have xubuntu stickers!
[20:00] <pleia2> hehe
[20:01] <Resistance> meh i need a kde sticker :p
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> pfft
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> xubuntu will always be my favorite :-)
[20:01] <MutantTurkey> though I am itching to try out ubuntu studio (does that still exist?
[20:02] <pleia2> it still exists, and uses Xfce now
[20:02] <pleia2> 11.10 release was a bit rough (first one with Xfce), but they're looking at a good 12.04 release
[20:03] <jedijf> pleia2: the support is vital too, like you do with partimus; have to keep touching base. I guess the ultimate would be gurus within, but that's hard to get
[20:03] <pleia2> jedijf: *nod*
[20:03] <pleia2> we have one school with an on-site guru, he's awesome, but rare
[20:03] <MutantTurkey> I don't know how well Unity fits into the recording environment
[20:04] <jedijf> real-time unity
[20:04] <MutantTurkey> Unity is developed in Qt right?
[20:04] <MutantTurkey> I wish the methods it used for certain intergration were more or less a freedesktop standard. I'd be nice if other environments could benifit from some of those things
[20:05] <MutantTurkey> I think canonical pushs things to quickly sometimes - like how they've already commited to Wayland and started using Unity well before it's prime time, turning away certain users
[21:44] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: got a job at the hamburger suit place now, working the register
[21:44] <EvilResistance> pleia2:  still alive?
[21:47] <ssweeny> she's doing science and she's still alive!
[21:48] <EvilResistance> you're strange :p
[22:03] <MutantTurkey> ssweeny: I've been meaning to learn that son
[22:04] <MutantTurkey> Jonathan Coulton is really a awsome guy
[22:04] <ssweeny> he really is
[22:05] <MutantTurkey> I love his tracks
[22:05] <MutantTurkey> they are really good and cheesebally
[22:07] <ssweeny> yeah
[22:07] <ssweeny> his new album is pretty awesome
[22:07] <ssweeny> it was produced by one of the johns in They Might Be Giants
[22:07] <ssweeny> the outspoken one
[22:08] <pleia2> EvilResistance: am at work, so just slow to respond
[22:08] <EvilResistance> ah then i'll leave ya be
[22:24] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: i was there yesterday, hate the new layout
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> ?
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> layout?
[22:24] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: did you mean mcd's?
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> no
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> which McD's is that?
[22:24] <jedijf> york rd
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> oh the new one in the grove? yeah the parking lot sucks
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> but is not nasty anymore
[22:24] <MutantTurkey> I mean it was gross before
[22:24] <jedijf> ring around the drive thru
[22:25] <MutantTurkey> no handle on the bathroom door. just a whole...
[22:25] <MutantTurkey> hole'
[22:25] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: didn't I tell you about my hamburger suit job?
[22:25] <MutantTurkey> up by thunderbird lanes?
[22:25] <jedijf> oh shit, that's you
[22:25]  * jedijf deposits in change jar
[22:26] <jedijf> flori's or something
[22:26] <MutantTurkey> yes that's me!
[22:26] <MutantTurkey> got a job workin the counter there
[22:26] <pleia2> in a hamburger suit?
[22:27] <EvilResistance> makes perfect sense :P

[22:27] <MutantTurkey> no no no, they first hired me for that, now I am working counter
[22:27] <MutantTurkey> either way
[22:27] <pleia2> turkey burger
[22:27] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: you must not interview well :)
[22:28] <MutantTurkey> http://twitpic.com/7kx0xq
[22:28] <jedijf> either that, or all new hires get the 'suit'
[22:28] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: no they only needed me for that
[22:28] <MutantTurkey> their one employee is moving though
[22:28] <MutantTurkey> so they needed someone to takeover
[22:37] <jedijf> philly pug holiday party at nat mechanics <---biters
[22:38] <jedijf> who's next phl.pm?
[22:38] <pleia2> hehe
[22:44] <MutantTurkey> so whaddya think about the 76ers vote?
[22:47] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: who won
[22:47] <MutantTurkey> no idea
[22:47] <jedijf> hahah napathy wins
[22:47] <jedijf> apathy
[22:49] <MutantTurkey> hopefully not B Frankling Dogg
[23:15] <waltman> 76ers vote?
[23:16] <waltman> Oh, the mascots?
[23:17] <waltman> Big Ben, obviously.
[23:18] <waltman> philly pug? what's the p stand for?
[23:19] <waltman> oh, the pythonistas?
[23:21] <jedijf> waltman: yep
[23:22] <jedijf> ben, dog, or moose....seems like ben should be a lock


[06:13] <jibel> Good morning
[06:14] <duflu> Morning jibel
[06:16] <jibel> Hi duflu
[07:07] <didrocks> good morning
[07:08] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[07:09] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:44] <tjaalton> linux-generic-hwe-20.04 is installed by default on focal desktop, meaning it'll roll forward to hwe-5.8 automatically. this is different to previous lts's, is there some documentation about that? the release notes didn't mention it
[07:54] <Maik> tjaalton: been searching for that for a while now but couldn't find anything. Kinda weird since hwe only comes with the 2nd pointrelease
[07:55] <tjaalton> what do you mean "only"?
[07:55] <tjaalton> it's the same focal archive
[09:04] <Laney> moin
[09:05] <Laney> tjaalton: don't know, maybe ask (other) kernel folks
[09:05] <Laney> it is deliberate though
[09:08] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:08] <juliank> heh me Laney highlight works
[09:11] <ricotz> tjaalton, a new installation using a recent focal iso will install the hwe stack by default, but only starting with the 2nd point release
[09:11] <ricotz> tjaalton, and yeah I can confirm this is happening already
[09:11] <ricotz> hello desktopers!
[09:12] <ricotz> tjaalton, I assume when using a daily focal iso this is expected
[09:13] <tjaalton> ricotz: no, it's the same with .0/.1
[09:13] <Laney> juliank: you are highlighting on my nick?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[09:13] <Laney> moin didrocks
[09:13] <juliank> Laney: I need to restrict it to ubuntu-release, but yeah it can be useful for autopkgtest requests
[09:14] <Laney> haha
[09:14] <Laney> it's ok
[09:14] <Laney> you can do my work if you want
[09:14] <ricotz> tjaalton, I see, then the hwe kernel meta packages are seeded already which a wrong?
[09:14] <Laney> it's not wrong
[09:14] <Laney> it's different though
[09:15] <Laney> maybe ask Andy, something might be written down somewhere
[09:15] <ricotz> wrong/different is the same thing here
[09:15] <ricotz> so it is unexpected
[09:15] <Laney> what
[09:46] <tjaalton> ok so it was part of the ga/oem kernel thing
[09:46] <tjaalton> in the installer
[09:59] <Laney> yeah that's sort of the project it came out of, HWE turned into a "track" to follow - but it's applied more generally than just for those devices
[09:59] <Laney> but you started a discussion and now someone is going to write it up somewhere
[09:59] <Laney> well done tjaalton ;-)
[10:13] <tjaalton> hehe
[10:15] <tjaalton> it was pointed out elsewhere, but it wasn't clear if it was deliberate or not
[10:28] <xnox> tjaalton:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Desktop "Ubuntu Desktop flavour now always tracks HWE kernel (hardware enablement). It means that from 20.04.2 release Ubuntu Desktop will gain new major kernel versions every 6 months through to summer of 2022." this just in
[10:28] <xnox> tjaalton: note that Ubuntu Server uses generic by default, as always.
[10:29] <tjaalton> xnox: thanks for adding that ;)
[13:32] <luna_> Hello desktoppers :)
[14:25] <luna_> Desktop meeting in 5 minutes
[14:29] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:29] <Wimpress> o/
[14:30] <luna_> good afternoon here in Sweden, has installed Ubuntu MATE on another Desktop and translated some Pluma things today
[14:30] <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-12-08
[14:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec  8 14:30:29 2020 UTC.  The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[14:30] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[14:30] <Wimpress> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
[14:30] <marcustomlinson> \o
[14:30] <luna_> \o/
[14:30] <hellsworth> o/
[14:31] <jibel> hi
[14:31] <didrocks999> hey
[14:32] <Wimpress> Right, let's get started :-)
[14:32] <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs
[14:32] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:32] <luna_> no desktop team things
[14:32] <Wimpress> All clear.
[14:32] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:33] <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1906877
[14:34] <Wimpress> Looks like Brian is working that.,
[14:35] <kenvandine> o/
[14:35] <Wimpress> Nothing else there.
[14:35] <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs
[14:35] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:36] <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1872268
[14:36] <luna_> and a crash in ubiquity: http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870508
[14:37] <Wimpress> Daniel has been working that. I'll assign him.
[14:37] <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870508
[14:38] <Laney> why is that there?
[14:38] <Wimpress> marcustomlinson: Is the gtk+3.0 a valid component or is it just atk?
[14:39] <kenvandine> I thought that was atk
[14:39] <Laney> I don't think it should be, I would delete that task and ask Amr to actually explain if they want to re add it
[14:39] <marcustomlinson> yeah I don't see how gtk got involved there
[14:39] <Wimpress> I've removed it.
[14:40] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:41] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1855757
[14:41] <Wimpress> That is included in error. Marked as Won't Fix for nvidia.
[14:42] <Wimpress> I think that is all.
[14:43] <Wimpress> #topic rls-gg-bugs
[14:43] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:43] <Wimpress> All in hand.
[14:43] <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:44] <luna_> same GNOME-settings diagnostics thing
[14:45] <luna_> looks like the rest is sorted
[14:45] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1905825
[14:47] <Wimpress> Looks like Daniel will be best placed to add that patch.
[14:47] <luna_> got a to old computers with Haswell but upstream is working on a patch: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1561
[14:48] <Wimpress> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:48] <Wimpress> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:48] <Wimpress> Erk
[14:48] <luna_> less then last week
[14:49] <Wimpress> Laney: Anything in that lots we should be concerned about?
[14:51] <Laney> soz
[14:51] <Wimpress> np
[14:52] <Laney> all of the bold ones probably do want looking into
[14:52] <Laney> maybe tkamppeter could take the hplip build failuers
[14:53] <Wimpress> OK
[14:53] <Laney> not sure about the rest, might want to assign them out of band
[14:53] <Wimpress> Yeah, was just thinking that.
[14:53] <Laney> how did the firmware end up in the seed ...
[14:54] <Wimpress> No idea. Will need to look into that one.
[14:54] <Wimpress> #topic AOB
[14:55] <Wimpress> Anything anyone would like to discuss?
[14:55] <Wimpress> Last chance :-)
[14:55] <Laney> yeah, hellsworth, we should hook up about the uicheck thing - saw your status
[14:55] <hellsworth> yeah cool laney thanks :)
[14:56] <Laney> that is all
[14:56] <Wimpress> OK.
[14:56] <Wimpress> Thanks everyone.
[14:57] <hellsworth> thanks!
[14:57] <Wimpress> #endmeeting
[14:57] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Dec  8 14:57:05 2020 UTC.
[14:57] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-12-08-14.30.moin.txt
[14:57] <luna_> thx
[14:57] <didrocks> thx!
[14:57] <marcustomlinson> 👍
[14:57] <Laney> Quality Meeting
[14:57] <hellsworth> Laney: can i ping you in 30 min and we hop into a room?
[14:57] <doko> anybody still connected with autopilot? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopilot/1.6.0+17.04.20170313-0ubuntu11
[14:58] <Laney> hellsworth: okey
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