 If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[08:02] <guest1> i am compiling a c program on my windows drive using gcc program.c and it produces a.out executable and on executing it by writing ./a.out in terminal it shows ./a.out:permission denied
[08:23] <Captainkrtek> guest1, chmod +x a.out
[08:24] <Captainkrtek> guest1, then ./a.out
[08:25] <guest1> i tried but it's not working
[08:27] <guest1> i wrote
[08:27] <guest1>  chmod a+x ./a.out
[08:27] <guest1> but again on executing it gives permission denied error
[08:28] <guest1> even with sudo su and sudoer login it is not executing
[08:28] <guest1> plz help
[08:29] <bioterror> sounds weird
[08:29] <bioterror> been so long time since I've last time compiled some random code myself ;)
[08:31] <guest1> i came across something about ntfs file being mounted as noexec mode. can anybody tell me how to edit the way it is mounted.
[08:31] <bioterror> why you have to compile that on your ntfs partition?
[08:32] <guest1> because earlier i had only windows and all my programs are there in ntfs drive and i sometimes also access them while i work on windows
[08:34] <guest1> bioterror, have you tried running any executable on ntfs drive?
[08:34] <bioterror> nope
[08:34] <bioterror> I just browse some pics and documents
[08:34] <guest1> okay
[08:40] <santak> i am compiling a c program on my windows drive using gcc program.c and it produces a.out executable and on executing it by writing ./a.out in terminal it shows ./a.out:permission denied
[09:06] <th^^> you can't give executable rights on ntfs volumes afaik
[09:07] <th^^> or, set permissions at all
[09:07] <th^^> or owners
[15:13] <consti1> hi! I would like to ask you if anyone knows how to instal the last adobe flash on the 9.04 ubuntu version, it seems like it doesn't want to do the plugin update...
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/source/Sources  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/restricted/source/Sources  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/universe/source/Sources  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/source/Sources  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/main/source/Sources  404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/restricted/source/Sources  404 Not Found
[15:14] <charlie-tca> consti1: Ubuntu 9.04 is no longer supported
[15:14] <charlie-tca> it will not update, because there are no updates available anymore
[15:14] <consti1> ohh, so what can i do?
[15:14] <charlie-tca> Install a supported version
[15:14] <charlie-tca> !supported
[15:14] <ubot2> Factoid 'supported' not found
[15:15] <charlie-tca> !ubuntu
[15:15] <ubot2> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[15:15] <consti1> las ubuntu doesn't work on my computer
[15:15] <charlie-tca> anyway, those would be Ubuntu 10.04, 10.10, 11.04
[15:15] <consti1> thanks anyway
[15:15] <consti1> last
[15:15] <charlie-tca> You could try Lubuntu
[15:15] <charlie-tca> It is designed for older computers
[15:15] <consti1> hm...ok
[15:15] <charlie-tca> !lubuntu
[15:15] <ubot2> lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.
[15:16] <consti1> thanks a lot
[15:16] <charlie-tca> yw
[15:25] <consti1> one more question, can i instal lubuntu from ubuntu without having to copy everything out of the computer and back in again?
[15:27] <charlie-tca> yes, you can install it by opening a terminal and typing
[15:27] <charlie-tca> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[15:27] <charlie-tca> and hitting enter
[15:32] <consti1> hihi thanx
[16:05] <consti1> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop didn't work, am I missing something?
[16:06] <holstein> consti1: how did it 'not work' ?
[16:07] <consti1> it says Couldn't find package lubuntu-desktop
[16:08] <holstein> consti1: try sudo apt-cache search lubuntu
[16:09] <holstein> maybe you have a typo ??
[16:09] <holstein> you can always just istall LXDE
[16:09] <holstein> sudo apt-get install lxde
[16:09] <holstein> choose the LXDE session from the login screen
[16:10] <consti1> what's a typo?
[16:10] <holstein> a mistake while typing
[16:11] <consti1> ah no, i copy pasted, i'll try again
[16:11] <holstein> consti1: search for it first
[16:12] <holstein> consti1: actually, run this command first
[16:12] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[16:12] <holstein> then, sudo apt-cache search lubuntu-desktop
[16:13] <consti1> ok it shows on last : E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:13] <holstein> you'll need to troubleshoot that error before you can install anything
[16:14] <consti1> how do i do that?
[16:14] <consti1> sorry i'm really just a begginer...
[16:15] <consti1> beginner
[16:15] <holstein> consti1: the question is, 'how did you do that?'
[16:15] <holstein> you've broken your sources
[16:15] <holstein> and thats fine... this is linux... everything is always fixable
[16:15] <holstein> thats how you learn
[16:16] <holstein> consti1: do you remember adding any sources?
[16:16] <holstein> and PPA's?
[16:17] <consti1> don't know what u're talking about really...
[16:17] <consti1> my computer doesn't like linux that's for sure...
[16:18] <holstein> consti1: you have somehow changed the sources, and added something that is not working
[16:18] <consti1> maybe
[16:18] <consti1> but i don't know exactly how
[16:18] <holstein> maybe, since you say your computer doesnt 'like' linux, you've copied and pasted some commands you dont understand
[16:18] <consti1> i would have done that
[16:18] <holstein> and that has broken things
[16:18] <holstein> maybe to try and fix driver issues
[16:19] <holstein> first thing, you're computer doesnt care what OS you run
[16:19] <holstein> im not sure what you are used to running, but linux is just different
[16:19] <holstein> we can help you sort out hardware support :)
[16:20] <consti1> the only  thing i tried to repair was the adobe flash plugin but that apparently in not supported on ubuntu 9.04 and that's why I'm changing to Lubuntu
[16:20] <consti1> i suppose that's the only way to keep using this computer n linux
[16:20] <geirha> That explains why there's no lubuntu-desktop package
[16:21] <geirha> Ubuntu 9.04 is no longer supported, and the lubuntu-desktop came in a later release.
[16:21] <consti1> ah ok
[16:21] <holstein> actually, that explains a lot ;)
[16:21] <consti1> and my computer doesn'twork on the last ubuntu version
[16:22] <holstein> try 10.04
[16:22] <holstein> thats the LTS
[16:22] <geirha> And since it's no longer supported, the software sources are probably gone.
[16:22] <geirha> Hence the errors from apt-get update
[16:22] <holstein> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[16:22] <geirha> !eofupgrade
[16:22] <ubot2> Factoid 'eofupgrade' not found
[16:22] <geirha> err
[16:23] <geirha> !eol
[16:23] <ubot2> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[16:23] <consti1> i installed ubuntu 10.04 before and my computed didn't work anymore
[16:23] <geirha> I'm so used to typing EOF rather than eol :)
[16:24] <geirha> consti1: intel graphics card?
[16:24] <holstein> consti1: you have options... you can try 10.04 or one of the newer versions of buntu and we can help trouble shoot
[16:24] <consti1> dunno...sorry
[16:24]  * holstein BBL
[16:24] <consti1> ok
[16:26] <consti1> i have a aspire 5020series do you think 10.04 will work?
[16:26] <consti1> (\acer)
[16:27] <holstein> try it live... thats the best way to know
[16:27] <consti1> scary...
[16:27] <consti1> ok, so what do i do?
[16:27] <consti1> just upgrade?
[16:28] <holstein> consti1: well, i would try 10.04 live first
[16:28] <consti1> ok
[16:28] <holstein> see what steps are necessary to get the hardware working
[16:29] <holstein> consti1: live means *without* installing
[16:29] <consti1> ok, i get it now...
[16:29] <consti1> lol
[16:29] <holstein> :)
[16:30] <consti1> how do i try it live? on ubuntu's website?
[16:30] <holstein> you'll need to download a normal ubuntu CD
[16:30] <holstein> what i mean by normal is, not an *alternate* CD
[16:31] <holstein> for example, what i linked early... http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[16:31] <holstein> the 'desktop CD' there
[16:31] <holstein> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[16:32] <holstein> ^^ you download that, and at some point when booting, you'll see 2 options... install or try it live
[16:32] <consti1> ok, i'll have to contunue another time then cause need to get cd's...
[16:32] <consti1> thanks guys, see you later maybe
[16:33] <holstein> consti1: i dont see anything when googling that makes me think that machine is not supported
[16:33] <consti1> this is really helpfull!!!!!
[16:33] <holstein> sure... anytime :)
[20:17] <UBUNTUN00B> hey all
[20:21] <s-fox> Hello.
[20:23]  * nlsthzn waves
[20:24]  * s-fox waves back.
[21:29] <fortiss> anyone know of a lock screen similar to the iphones swipe to unlock screen for ubuntu?
[21:30] <holstein> fortiss: AFAIK, they all just lock with password
[21:31] <holstein> also, theres not much customization with unity yet
[21:31] <holstein> that would be a really good wish-list bug :)
[21:31] <s-fox> Not seen that theme on gnome-look fortiss, sorry.
[21:32] <fortiss> doesnt NEED to look just like an iphone...
[21:33] <fortiss> I have a kiosk that needs a lock screen. It doesnt havea  KB
[21:34] <fortiss> I dont care if its a REAL lock screen
[21:34] <s-fox> fortiss,   http://gnome-look.org/content/search.php  do a search on lock screen :-)  Maybe you will see something you like.
[21:35] <fortiss> just an app that keeps you from pressing the web app buttons if you brush up against it. I just want all screen presses to be delibrate
[21:35] <s-fox> Oh
[21:36] <fortiss> Ive looked EVERYwhere online cant find a damn thing...
[21:37] <holstein> fortiss: i would also explore andriod and webOS
[21:37] <holstein> linux's that might have soemthing like that you could port easily
[21:42] <fortiss> hmm
[21:43] <fortiss> alright ill give it a shot thanks!


[20:06] <daniel331> (the system is running windows 8 atm, so its no wonder she wants it off..)
[20:06] <bekks> daniel331: Which kernel parameters do you use for booting, then?
[20:06] <daniel331> I wasnt given any option to enter kernel parameters
[20:07] <daniel331> (I can do that thru the UEFI interface is I knew which parameters to type, tho)
[20:07] <Surendil> daniel331, x64 or i686? have you checked that?
[20:08] <daniel331> its an i7
[20:08] <daniel331> aw shit the installer is amd64. reckon thats the problem?
[20:08] <bekks> daniel331: And are you using a 32bit or 64bit install medium?
[20:08] <supersmilers> anyone? I wanted to switch back to Ubuntu gnome on my old laptop from ubuntu mate
[20:08] <bekks> amd64 is 64bit. your cpu is 64bit.
[20:09] <wad> Awesome, this is working beautifully. Music is now in lossless highest-quality mode. :-D
[20:09] <daniel331> bekks: thats what I thought. so thats not the problem?
[20:10] <bekks> daniel331: Thats no problem.
[20:10] <daniel331> okay
[20:11] <Surendil> daniel331, check the bios for AHCI compatibility
[20:11] <supersmilers> is 16.04 good enough with working plymouth logo animation to try on my old laptop?
[20:12] <squinty> supersmilers,   install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" meta package via your fave installer (apt-get, synaptic, etc)
[20:12] <CPUSA> hello
[20:12] <ioria> daniel331, are you sure you are booting from usb ?
[20:12] <daniel331> okay so there is the option for "xHCI Pre-Boot Mode" shgould I have that enabled or disabled? It is enabled atm..
[20:13] <supersmilers> on 15.10? I'm right now on ubuntu mate 15.10
[20:13] <daniel331> yes ioria the only other OS plugged in is windows and I am definitly not booting windows when I see the grub prompt...
[20:13] <Surendil> daniel331, enabled, then it's ok
[20:13] <daniel331> and legacy USB support? Enabled?
[20:13] <daniel331> okay
[20:14] <daniel331> AH
[20:14] <daniel331> right
[20:14] <daniel331> would nomodeset help?
[20:15] <daniel331> so when I boot UEFI, I see the quick accessibility options thing with the option to change kernel boot params
[20:15] <supersmilers> I like to start fresh so I don't have to worry about other packages
[20:15] <daniel331> but then I get invalid kernel argument error
[20:16] <Surendil> supersmilers, then download ubuntu again
[20:16] <supersmilers> ok.
[20:16] <daniel331> I still get the "booting kernel failed: invalid argument" but iif I knew what to put into the options screen I guess I could change that
[20:16] <Surendil> supersmilers, ubuntu = gnome | kubuntu = kde | xubuntu = xfce
[20:17] <nolsen> How come doing echo "$IFACE" says nothing?
[20:17] <supersmilers> Isn't ubuntu = unity? Ubuntu gnome is a distro
[20:17] <nolsen> I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AnonymizingNetworkMACAddresses and it isn't working.
[20:19] <Surendil> supersmilers, unity is a graphical shell for gnome
[20:19] <supersmilers> oh
[20:19] <funkiestj> hello!
[20:21] <funkiestj> Longtime FreeBSD user (but not administrator) at work.  Running my on Ubuntu VM at home.  What is best practice for my "daily work" account?  Can I use my account with "administrator" priviledge as my main account or should I be doing programming work in a  "standard" account?
[20:22] <funkiestj> I'm guessing "admin" is OK because root commands still requires sudo ...
[20:22] <bekks> funkiestj: All accounts are standard accounts, some of them just have the ability to use sudo.
[20:22] <funkiestj> thx bekks.
[20:24] <libman> I'm running Ubuntu without a lightdm or any other *dm.  Is there a way to set up auto-login (i.e. bypass console login / password)?
[20:25] <nolsen> How come doing echo "$IFACE" says nothing?
[20:25] <nolsen> I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AnonymizingNetworkMACAddresses and it isn't working.
[20:26] <EhsanKia> Question: I have python2.7 installed with pip2.7, I have python3.4 installed with pip3, I just installed python3.5 fkrull/deadsnakes and not sure how to get pip3.5
[20:26] <User6465465453> .
[20:26] <TheNH813> @linux are you there?
[20:27] <xangua> linux is everywhere
[20:27] <TheNH813> I'm talking to a user who I was helping set up PPPoE.
[20:27] <nolsen> Apparently nobody knows how to answer my question.
[20:27] <Seveas> libman: in /etc/init/tty1.conf, change /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1 to /sbin/getty -8 -a yourusername 38400 tty1
[20:27] <Seveas> libman: see man getty
[20:27] <daniel331> apparently this is a problem which has been documented for arch and syslinux
[20:27] <daniel331> some bug in the installer?
[20:28] <daniel331> its gotta be as simple as changing the options tho?
[20:28] <ioria> daniel331, how did you do the usb ?
[20:28] <libman> Nevermind, found systemctl instructions on http://askubuntu.com/questions/679419/how-to-make-auto-login-work-in-ubuntu-no-display-manager about to try them out.
[20:28] <daniel331> dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb
[20:28] <daniel331> medium was not mounted at the time
[20:28] <daniel331> md5sum is correct
[20:29] <daniel331> (NOT of=/dev/sdb1
[20:29] <Surendil> daniel331, try unetbooting
[20:30] <OerHeks> daniel331, did you 'sync' after dd?
[20:30] <Seveas> :q
[20:30] <daniel331> no. I will do that
[20:32] <ioria> daniel331 if you have win , also http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[20:32] <funkiestj> ioria: hello (I am just test driving gnome-xchat)
[20:33] <ioria> funkiestj, it works
[20:34] <Finetundra> How do you disable panels in mate?
[20:35] <funkiestj> ioria: thx.  I'm still trying to figure out the UI.
[20:35] <funkiestj> not sure how you folks address others with that "-> <b>name</b>" looking output
[20:36] <ioria> funkiestj, you mean autocomplete ?
[20:36] <funkiestj> maybe.
[20:37] <ioria> funkiestj,  type the first letters and then Tab
[20:37] <funkiestj> thx.
[20:38] <wewve> hello ladies and gents! I cant make avconv work to convert videos to mp3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14534790 ? this was the command I used until now, but instantly it doesnt work anymore
[20:38] <wewve> I get : 'No such file or directory'
[20:39] <wewve> like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14534840/
[20:40] <SchrodingersScat> wewve: and you have flv files on your desktop?
[20:41] <wewve> SchrodingersScat, yes :)
[20:41] <SchrodingersScat> wewve: oh, well, there's your problem, avconv -i "$" #"$" "$"
[20:41] <SchrodingersScat> wewve: should be "$i"
[20:49] <wewve> sorry..I couldnt read if you answered me..
[20:50] <avconv> I was just disconnected..repeat my question
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> avconv: you need to make -i "$" to -i "$i" so you use your i variable
[20:50] <avconv>  I cant make avconv work to convert videos to mp3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14534790 ? this was the command I used until now, but instantly it doesnt work anymore
[20:51] <avconv> SchrodingersScat..oh indeed!!
[20:51] <avconv> SchrodingersScat, so it was a command error..thank you so much!!
[20:51] <funkiestj> is there a way to see pastebin posts by a poster (e.g. me)?
[20:55] <akik> funkiestj: you can ask your client for the lastlog
[20:55] <funkiestj> akik, thx.
[20:56] <akik> on irssi: /lastlog -regexp funkiestj.*paste
[20:56] <akik> if you need them, i can put them to pastebin :)
[20:57] <funkiestj> I'm a long time user (not admin) on FreeBSD.  New to Ubuntu and all the tools here.  Just test driving things.
[20:57] <funkiestj> like pastebin, IRC et cetera.
[20:58] <funkiestj> ubuntu in virtualbox is pretty awesome.  The last time I used Linux at home I had to repartition disks and use a boot loader (ugh).
[20:58] <bekks> funkiestj: Works fine here, for years.
[21:05] <Cyber_Akuma> I tried using "universal usb installer" to put the Ubuntu iso on a usb drive, but I can't boot off of it. The ubuntu screen comes up, but when I choose "try ubuntu without installing" it just reboots
[21:06] <Alberto> Please, I need some help here.
[21:07] <akik> !ask
[21:07] <Surendil> Alberto, what's the problem?
[21:08] <Alberto> Surendil My wi-fi internet connection is very slow with Ubuntu 15.10
[21:09] <Alberto> Surendil In my laptop
[21:09] <souplady> When I attempt sudo apt-get for any package, it comes back with " e: unable to locate package". The laptop i am working on IS having an issue with the chipset, i am attempting to install new drivers for it. however it is currently connected via ethernet so i don't understand what the problem is. anyone can help me?
[21:10] <Alberto> Surendil I can't even download the hardinfo *.deb package
[21:10] <funkiestj>  souplady: I had the same problem last night on a fresh install.
[21:11] <CPUSA> @souplady, How new is your computer?
[21:11] <souplady> funkiestj: were you able to fix it?
[21:11] <Surendil> souplady, try apt-get update first
[21:11] <Bashing-om> souplady: What relaese ? ' cat/etc/issue' .
[21:11] <souplady> ok! i will try updating, it is a fresh install on a brand new coputer and i had forgotten to update
[21:11] <souplady> sudo apt-get update
[21:11] <Alberto> Surendil In order to find out which network card my computer has.
[21:11] <souplady> oops wrong window
[21:11] <funkiestj> souplady: sadly my solution was a reinstall of the ISO image.  I had only just tried an install so for me, reinstall was not a problem.  Strangely enough, reinstall fixed my problem.  I don't know why.
[21:11] <funkiestj> <-- ubuntu neophyte.
[21:12] <souplady> me too :^) its updating now but if that doesnt work ill try reinstalling, thx for the suggestion
[21:12] <funkiestj> data point -- update and dist-<something> did nothing to fix my problem but everything worked fine after the reinstall :^/
[21:13] <Alberto> I need help, please
[21:14] <Alberto> I don't want to go back to Windows :(
[21:14] <peaceful> Hi
[21:14] <ikonia> Alberto: just state your problem, if people can help, they will
[21:14] <akik> Alberto: have you tried to change the channel your wlan ap is on?
[21:14] <Alberto> akik Yes, I have. Still not working properly...
[21:15] <akik> Alberto: you can list your network devices with "sudo lshw -c network"
[21:15] <Alberto> akik Ok :)
[21:15] <CPUSA> how long will a apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:16] <CPUSA> * how long will a apt-get dist-upgrade take?
[21:16] <ikonia> few seconds
[21:16] <bekks> CPUSA: Depends on a gazillion of parameters.
[21:16] <ikonia> no more than 10 seconds
[21:16] <CPUSA> Okay
[21:16] <ikonia> for the average user
[21:16] <funkiestj> apt-get dist-upgrade took several minutes for me.
[21:16] <ikonia> the package install will take longer
[21:16] <ikonia> but the actual update and dep checks won't take long
[21:16] <CPUSA> Its because im using debian and Im trying to get the libdvdcss2 codecs
[21:17] <ikonia> then why are you asking in #ubuntu
[21:17] <ikonia> rather than #debian
[21:17] <CPUSA> so i added a repository to get it
[21:17] <ikonia> take it to the #debian channl please
[21:17] <CPUSA> because its empty and baren
[21:17] <ikonia> it's not
[21:17] <CPUSA> lol
[21:17] <Alberto> I've read Ubuntu 15.10 has problems with some wireless network cards...
[21:18] <ikonia> Alberto: don't think thats true, if linux supports it, it should be ok, there is a new intel card that needs a later kernel
[21:18] <akik> Alberto: to list the wireless networks your computer sees "sudo iwlist wlp4s0 scan" (replace wlp4s0 with your wireless interface from iwconfig)
[21:19] <peaceful> How can i downgrade xorg to 1.5 please?
[21:20] <peaceful> im going to install ubuntu 8.04
[21:20] <bekks> peaceful: Not supported since ages.
[21:20] <ikonia> peaceful: totally not supported, so good luck
[21:20] <peaceful> bekks: i know but at least ati catalyst works
[21:20] <Alberto> ikonia How could I find out whether Linux supports my network card or not?
[21:20] <ikonia> Alberto: what make/model is it ?
[21:20] <peaceful> can i install latest firefox on ubuntu 8.04/
[21:20] <Seveas> peaceful: no.
[21:20] <peaceful> ghh
[21:20] <Seveas> Neither can you get support for 8.04 in here.
[21:21] <ikonia> peaceful: it's unsupported, please don't ask for support
[21:21] <peaceful> bla bla
[21:21] <Alberto> I have to say, I did a couple of "tricks" to speed up the internet.
[21:22] <Alberto> connection
[21:22] <peaceful> stop crucifying me
[21:22] <ikonia> Alberto: answer the questions, what make/model is your card
[21:22] <ity9bers> !list
[21:22] <ikonia> peaceful: then don't ask questions that are not supported
[21:22] <peaceful> ikonia: i didnt know questions are now "supported" ?
[21:22] <Seveas> peaceful: we won't crucify you. Your lack of security updates will. Your system will be very vulnerable
[21:23] <ikonia> peaceful: they are about unsupported versions, as you've been told
[21:23] <peaceful> Seveas: thats least problem
[21:23] <Seveas> peaceful: yes, your other probelm will be finding anyone willing to support you :) Not even canonical will help you if you pay them.
[21:23] <Alberto> ikonia The thing is... It's a friend's laptop
[21:24] <ikonia> Alberto: that wasn't the question,
[21:24] <ikonia> Alberto: what make/model is it
[21:24] <ikonia> (the wireless card)
[21:24] <Alberto> ikonia Intel, I think
[21:24] <Alberto> The laptop is a HP
[21:24] <ikonia> Alberto: find out for sure,make and model
[21:24] <peaceful> Seveas: i came here in case someone willing to help me
[21:24] <ikonia> peaceful: sadly not, sorry
[21:24] <Seveas> peaceful: you're about 5 years too late for that
[21:25] <peaceful> not true
[21:25] <peaceful> I guess you need to know some commands
[21:25] <ikonia> peaceful: the distro is EOL, so it won't be discussed in here, sorry
[21:25] <peaceful> Im not even talking about distro
[21:25] <peaceful> My first question was how to downgrade xorg
[21:26] <ikonia> you are, you're talking about an EOL distro
[21:26] <ikonia> (EOL = end of life)
[21:26] <nicomachus> peaceful: it's an unsupported version. upgrade to a supported version and then you can get support
[21:26] <bba> Anyone have experience with getting new Intel i915 graphics working
[21:26] <ikonia> should work out of the box bba
[21:26] <peaceful> nicomachus: which is unsupported?
[21:27] <bba> I agree
[21:27] <ikonia> 8.04
[21:27] <nicomachus> peaceful: 14.04, 15.04 (for a few more days), and 15.10
[21:27] <nicomachus> are the only supported versions.
[21:27] <peaceful> im not talking about 8.04
[21:27] <peaceful> im asking how to donwgrade Xorg
[21:27] <Alberto> Ok, in the meantime, I can tell you I did what they say here----> http://askubuntu.com/questions/700284/slow-internet-connection-using-wifi-on-ubuntu-mate-15-10
[21:27] <ikonia> peaceful: on what version ?
[21:27] <peaceful> 15.04
[21:27] <ikonia> Alberto: not interested in that, interested in the make/model of the card
[21:27] <ikonia> peaceful: there isn't a lower package for 15.04
[21:27] <bekks> peaceful: MAybe you should state the actual problem behind that, which makes you willing to downgrade Xorg.
[21:27] <bba> I get a failed to add i915 component master (-19)
[21:28] <ikonia> bba: where ?
[21:28] <bba> in dmsg
[21:28] <peaceful> bekks: to use catalyst driver
[21:28] <ikonia> bba: but whats the problem /
[21:28] <nicomachus> peaceful: that driver should work fine with the current version of xorg in 15.04
[21:28] <bekks> peaceful: The old catalyst drivers arent supported any more I guess. So which hardware do you use?
[21:29] <bba> I have a pc with intel chipset and nvidia card, I'm trying to get video out of the built in graphics
[21:29] <Alberto> ikonia Unfortunately, I don't have that laptop here with me right now.
[21:29] <bekks> The new catalyst drivers work fine on recent versions of Xorg.
[21:29] <Alberto> :(
[21:29] <ikonia> Alberto: then there is no point doing anything more
[21:29] <ikonia> get the info, and come back
[21:29] <acovrig> I'm trying to do networking with qemu, I have br0 (eth1) I would like to bridge with, how do I specify which bridge to use?
[21:29] <ikonia> x2xx3x: use the bridge-utils commands
[21:30] <ikonia> oops
[21:30] <ikonia> or set it through virsh
[21:30] <ikonia> acovrig: use the bridge-utils commands
[21:30] <Bashing-om> bba: Hybrid graohics == nvidia-prime . ' dpkg -l nvidia-prime ' is it installed ?
[21:30] <acovrig> ikonia, what do you mean, brctl? I already have br0 and would like to use it
[21:31] <ikonia> acovrig: ok ?
[21:31] <ikonia> acovrig: what's stopping you ?
[21:31] <acovrig> ikonia, how do I specify (in the qemu-system-x86_64 command) which interface to use (br0)
[21:32] <ikonia> thats defined in your profiles, you should have defined networks
[21:32] <smartp0wne>  cya guys
[21:32] <ikonia> then you just name it as one of the argumentes
[21:32] <ikonia> arguments
[21:34] <acovrig> ikonia, I'm confused, if I use something like this: -device e1000,netdev=net0,mac=$macaddress -netdev tap,id=net0 (from http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Networking) how does it know which bridge to use?
[21:34] <ikonia> acovrig: it doesn't, you need to define a network and then call the name, you're specifying -netdev tap id=net0 so that will create a tap device based on your available network definitions
[21:36] <acovrig> ikonia, how about this: -device rtl8139,netdev=br0,mac=$blah; or do I need to let/have it create it's own virtual device then brctl addif to add it to br0?
[21:37] <ikonia> acovrig: so thats specifying a realtek device (???why ???) and then the bridge device, you'll do better having networks defined, but that should technically work
[21:38] <acovrig> ikonia, what do you mean have them defined?
[21:38] <ikonia> you can define networks, such as "internal test" that have ranges defined, devices defined etc, and just reference them
[21:39] <ikonia> you may want to look at virsh
[21:40] <bba> so, no one any idea about i915 graphics?
[21:40] <ikonia> bba: you're not really using an i915 are you using, using one of the optimus video cards with intel/nvidia ?
[21:41] <bba> I have new skylake cpu, afaik its i915, but whatever it is its not detected
[21:41] <ikonia> then where is the nvidia component coming in ?
[21:41] <ikonia> you said it has intel and nvidia
[21:41] <bba> I have an geforce gtx 750 too
[21:41] <ikonia> is it a dual card, or what ?
[21:42] <bba> It is a desktop pc
[21:42] <ikonia> bba: so what are you actually trying to do ?
[21:42] <bba> get graphics out of the intel chipset graphics 'part'
[21:42] <ikonia> bba: ok, what's the problem then ?
[21:43] <bba> if i do a sudo lshw the only display listed is the nvidia one
[21:43] <acovrig> ikonia, I'm using virsh for my other VMs, but I don't think I can use virsh if I'm doing a VGA PCI passthrough, so I'm running qemu manually for this VM
[21:43] <Ubuntuwybdgdg> Have Ubuntu 15:10 encrypted install. After install of nvidia drivers can't enter password in unlock box?
[21:43] <ikonia> acovrig: I thought you could, I wouldn't be my life on it though
[21:43] <ikonia> bba: because it's part of the cpu, not a seperate device
[21:43] <Ubuntuwybdgdg> It shows up top left corner of screen in plain text
[21:44] <Alberto> Ok, my friend just came over with his computer, I did "iwlist wlan0 scan" and this is what I get: wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning.
[21:44] <Ubuntuwybdgdg> How can I add quiet splash to boot option?
[21:44] <ikonia> Alberto: not what was asked of you
[21:44] <bba> Ok so regardless of it not being listed as a display I want to get graphics out of it
[21:44] <ikonia> bba: ok - so what's the problem ?
[21:45] <Alberto> ikonia I'm sorry, I don't know how to find out about the make/model of the network card.
[21:45] <ikonia> Alberto: look it up on the website of the laptop
[21:45] <bba> If I connect something to the port I don't get any display
[21:45] <ikonia> Alberto: or do an "lspci"
[21:46] <ikonia> or lshw
[21:46] <ikonia> bba: what port ?
[21:46] <bba> I'm suspicious of the warning in the dmesg "failed to add i915 component master (-19)"
[21:46] <ikonia> bba: first thing to check, is the video card enabled in the bios ?
[21:46] <Alberto> ikonia Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[21:47] <bba> The 15pin vga connector on the main board
[21:47] <ikonia> bba: is it enabled in the bios ?
[21:47] <ikonia> Alberto: so check out if that / how that device is supported in linux, most realtek's will work for basic wifi needs
[21:47] <Alberto> ikonia How could I do that?
[21:48] <ikonia> the web ?
[21:48] <ikonia> as I said, most realteks will be fine for the average persons wifi needs
[21:48] <ikonia> there are a few odd ball models which don't work properly
[21:48] <Alberto> ikonia Ok, thank you very much :)
[21:49] <bba> Can I find out / integorate the bios once the system is booted?
[21:49] <ikonia> (from memory)
[21:49] <ikonia> bba: easier to just do it in the bios
[21:50] <bba> I wish it were, there is no single tick-box saying "use built in graphics".
[21:50] <ikonia> no, you have to look
[21:50] <Cyber_Akuma> Odd..... I am installing ubuntu on a VM and it didn't ask me which harddrive to choose, nor did it give me much options, it only had the option to format the drive... and it didn'
[21:50] <Cyber_Akuma> t specify WHICH drive
[21:53] <Ubuntuwybdgdg> Anyone?
[21:59] <Colbykz> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup a vpn tunnel, i use public wifi alot and would like to encrypt my connection
[22:01] <nicomachus> Colbykz: great. do you have an issue?
[22:03] <bramgn> Colbykz: openvpn
[22:05] <bba> well now the pc isn't booting at all having changed the bios settings for video
[22:05] <bba> is there a way from finding once the pc has booted if it things in has built in graphics?
[22:05] <bba> *thinks
[22:06] <Colbykz> I set up a computer running Ubuntu 14.04, but have had no luck configuring the server to allow for a ptpp connection
[22:12] <Colbykz> I am currently trying to set up a Ubuntu PTPP VPN Server.
[22:12] <Colbykz>  I am able to get my client pc, running Windows 10, to connect to the VPN server, the pc even claims to have an internet connection, but when I attempt to use my web browser there is no web connection... interestingly enough, the client pc can still use TeamViewer to remotely manage the Ubuntu VPN Server.
[22:12] <Colbykz>  Best I can tell this is not a DNS issue, the client pc can ping IP addresses beyond the VPN network while connected to the VPN, I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> (google), but I cannot connect to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ via my web browser.
[22:12] <Colbykz>  Thanks in advance for reading this, I'm new to Linux so I'm not entirely sure what log's I should post or that are relevant, and I am more than willing to furnish anything needed.
[22:12] <nicomachus> I wouldn't recommend PTPP.... not secure.
[22:12] <nicomachus> use openvpn
[22:19] <bramgn> Colbykz: invest learning how to run openvpn, it will pay off in the end, and besides, it's not difficult to set up at all.
[22:26] <Colbykz> See what my concern is that i'll put the time into trying to configure open vpn and end up with the same connectivity issue.. I may as well give it a shot and see what I come up with
[22:28] <bob2021> heyyy... is tj- or k1rk here? :)
[22:28] <xangua> !ask
[22:28] <bob2021> xangua:  this is about an issue where i've been talking to them on an ongoing basis for almost a week now
[22:30] <xangua> bob2021: sounds like a forum would be a better place to follow up, good luck
[22:34] <blurkis> how come I can view images from /static/ but not /media/ though both are set in settings.py?  Trying to view them from html in a template
[22:34] <Delta706> I have a terminal application. I would like to know if there is a smart shell or terminal which can do keystrokes according to a program. Like it could do "sleep 60" and return. Then wait and do other keystrokes
[22:35] <blurkis> wrong channel for me , hahah
[22:37] <ben_> anyone on ubuntu MATE?
[22:37] <akik> Delta706: expect is one
[22:38] <Delta706> "expect" is an automatable terminal?
[22:38] <Cyber_Akuma> My laptop won't boot into ubuntu on a usb drive. It just boots into windows
[22:38] <akik> Delta706: it can automate your script
[22:39] <k1l> Cyber_Akuma: see the bios if its disabled there
[22:39] <Cyber_Akuma> I have been ALL over the bios
[22:39] <Cyber_Akuma> I even set the harddrive as my last boot device and manually tell it to boot from usb when it's booting from a boot menu when you press f12 on post
[22:39] <Cyber_Akuma> it STILL boots into windows
[22:40] <BriZZell> yo new friends
[22:41] <Cyber_Akuma> I tried UEFI mode, enither windows or ubuntu could boot that way
[22:41] <BriZZell> anyone using a android emulator for a device NOT development
[22:41] <Bashing-om> Cyber_Akuma: That indicates that no bootloader is installed onto the USB drive .
[22:41] <Surendil> Cyber_Akuma, does it work on another computer?
[22:41] <Cyber_Akuma> And I tried the os type option in both "Windows 8 64" and "other os" mode
[22:42] <Cyber_Akuma> I'll try another comuter
[22:42] <Cyber_Akuma> I use da vm to install it to the usb drive
[22:42] <Cyber_Akuma> Basically, booted the VM using the ubuntu live cd, and told it to install ubuntu on the usb drive
[22:42] <k1l> Cyber_Akuma: uh. are you sure the usb stick is ok? does it work on another pc?
[22:43] <Cyber_Akuma> I''l try it on another pc
[22:43] <Cyber_Akuma> But when I tried a liveusb I had a similar problem
[22:43] <Cyber_Akuma> It gave me the ubuntu boot options screen
[22:43] <Cyber_Akuma> but when I chose "try ubuntu without installing" it just rebooted into windows
[22:48] <Guest16644> Hello, can i use a ps3 controller on linux?
[22:49] <xangua> Guest16644: should work out of the box
[22:50] <andrew> hi
[22:52] <BriZZell> Guest16644 how are you plugging it in (im lay but curious )
[22:53] <kinker31> Heya!
[22:54] <anabain> Cyber_Akuma, have you googled about this issue? Which laptop do you own?
[22:55] <Cyber_Akuma> Lenovo G780
[22:55] <Cyber_Akuma> And I tried gooling, coulden't find specific information
[22:57] <home>  иьиролд
[22:58] <home> длд
[22:58] <home> оршщзшо
[22:59] <k1l> !ru | home
[22:59] <home> мргодо
[22:59] <home> роглто
[22:59] <home> ощдл
[22:59] <home> рголдол
[22:59] <home> рощдлж
[22:59] <home> олзжлж
[23:00] <home> эж
[23:00] <home> э
[23:00] <home> э
[23:00] <home> жэ
[23:01] <anabain> Cyber_Akuma, not your model, but also a Lenovo, you could try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122566/live-usb-not-booting-in-lenovo-ideapad-z570?rq=1
[23:01] <k1l> Cyber_Akuma: make sure the usb stick is working ok.
[23:02] <k1l> Cyber_Akuma: i suspect it wasnt made right.
[23:03] <anabain> kll, agree with you
[23:05] <anabain> Cyber_Akuma, what distro are you trying to boot?
[23:06] <Dr4kk3N> yo
[23:06] <Alberto> Hello everyone
[23:07] <BriZZell> Im looking to run Android apps on my PC what should i get (thats free)
[23:08] <Alberto> My internet speed is too slow with Ubuntu 15.10. I don't know how to download or install RTL8188EE driver.
[23:08] <jt_> I'm trying to install 15.10 via a usb created with startup disk creator. Installing on a mac. When i check the disk I verify the disk it fails with 2 errors. The iso passes md5sum and I've attempted creating multiple usb sticks
[23:08] <jt_> what can i do?
[23:09] <anabain> Cyber_Akuma, I assume you've checked the following link which, btw, shows that your laptop isn't very linux-friendly, I'm afraid: http://www.linlap.com/lenovo_g780
[23:09] <Alberto> I'm getting 100% Wi-Fi signal, however, the internet is not working well...
[23:10] <jt_> @BriZZell Android SDK (AVD manager) with Intel Haxm
[23:10] <Alberto> I've got another computer with a wired connection and Ubuntu 15.10.
[23:10] <kinker31> Okay, so my Windows partition is over at sda4, my EFI boot partition is over at sda2. How would I make the grub menu entry for Windows 10?
[23:10] <Alberto> This last works fine.
[23:10] <BriZZell> Alberto im having the same prob - you got a usb adaptor right
[23:11] <BriZZell> jt_ which is the name - sorry im new
[23:12] <Alberto> BriZZell No, it's actually an onboard wi-fi card.
[23:12] <jt_> BriZZell: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html#Other
[23:13] <BriZZell> well ive been dealing with it in ubuntu and mint - no net but Face Book works lo-not-l
[23:14] <jt_> BriZZell: Once installed you want to look for Android Virtual Device manager. Performance is typically poor. Haxm will help. Virtual devices have no play store so you have to sideload everything.
[23:14] <BriZZell> ooooooh geeezz
[23:14] <BriZZell> whats haxm and what is side loading
[23:16] <BriZZell> how can i load the link you gave threw terminal
[23:16] <jt_> Hardware Accelerated Execution Manager for Intel processors. Sideloading is a method of transfering an apk to a device and installing it via adb (Android Debug Bridge, a tool that comes with the Android SDK)
[23:17] <jt_> I wouldn't waste your time
[23:17] <BriZZell> ok ive never loaded from a zip
[23:22] <BriZZell> ahhh no
[23:37] <BriZZell> anyone running cinnamon
[23:37] <xangua> ! Ask
[23:40] <BriZZell> i got cinnamon running on my ubuntu anyone doing the same?
[23:41] <chamunks> So I destroyed my php5 installation trying to downgrade to php5.5 again.
[23:41] <chamunks> I am getting errors trying to load PhpMyAdmin now trying to load https://servercubes.net/phpmyadmin/ it is asking for php5-json to be enabled but its not in mods-available.
[23:41] <chamunks> Purging the package and reinstalling it isn't working either.
[23:43] <BriZZell> forgive me im new but what is a php5 and whats wrong with the upgrade
[23:46] <K1rk> bob2017
[23:46] <K1rk> Pong
[23:46] <bob2017> k1rk!!!
[23:46] <bob2017> how are you?
[23:47] <K1rk> bob2017, I just spent 2 hrs correcting my colleague's unspeakably dumb mistake.
[23:47] <K1rk> bob2017, he decided to restore the "ibdata1" file in /var/lib/mysql from a week old backup, causing InnoDB to go totally out of sync and corrupt all the databases on a server.
[23:47] <K1rk> And of course the week old backup was the most recent one we had...
[23:47] <K1rk> *slap*
[23:48] <bob2017> i had it running for a single boot, fyi — if I disabled nouveau, but left radeon on, and chrooted in to install sshd before the first boot, i was able to get to a command line.  then, it wasn’t detecting any monitors.  but as long as i unplugged them all, and plugged htem in one at a time, it saw them as soon as they plugged-in.  now its back to not booting, probably bc I installed the nvidia driver :p
[23:48] <K1rk> Hehe sounds like you've been having a lot of fun bob2017
[23:49] <bob2017> k1rk: actually it kinda of suckis
[23:49] <bob2017> sucks
[23:51] <GrimTreaper> hello
[23:54] <GrimTreaper> Wondering if any one can help with my current issue here ? i am a beginner with ubuntu 14.04, trying to run wine on it, Youtube helped, but its still not working properly.
[23:55] <GrimTreaper> any knowledge on the subject would be usefull... i am willing to use other chat software if needed.
[23:56] <k1l> GrimTreaper: first: youtube howtos are bad. better rely on official documentation. then: wine is not exactly windows. so there might be some things to do before a program runs. best is to look into the wine appdb
[23:56] <k1l> !wine | GrimTreaper
[23:57] <GrimTreaper> Ah.. thank you


[00:01] <Maik> brookerose1312: since ubuntu budgie is a official flavor it's ok to ask here.
[00:01] <brookerose1312> ah, gotcha.
[00:02] <Maik> i guess the ubuntu budgie channel is good for asking about Ubuntu Budgie specific things. The core in every flavor is ubunut after all.
[00:02] <Maik> ubunut/ubuntu
[00:04] <brookerose1312> It seems as if the workaround for the intel (14iil05) version isn't covered in the linked post, only the ryzen one.
[00:08] <brookerose1312> So I did cat /proc/bus/input/devices and I don't even see a touchscreen input device, which maybe I'm just looking in the wrong spot.
[00:11] <Bashing-om> brookerose1312: ' apt policy xserver-xorg-input-all ' show installed ?
[00:13] <tomreyn> brookerose1312: to identify the touchscreen: sudo acpidump | grep -C3 ELAN
[00:14] <brookerose1312> I see ELAN2097 only, which I'm assuming is the touchpad but I might be wrong.
[00:14] <brookerose1312> no, wait. that should be the touchpad.
[00:22] <brookerose1312> the apt policy xserver-xorg-input-all on their computer shows `installed: (none)`
[00:23] <brookerose1312> also they didn't have acpidump on their system, but it's the same as my system (exact same model) so it's going to be ELAN2097
[00:23] <brookerose1312> (also when I said that should be the touchpad I meant touchscreen, running on very low energy right now haha)
[00:25] <Bashing-om> brookerose1312: tomreyn: See ' apt show xserver-xorg-input-all' and then consider to install ?
[00:26] <brookerose1312> would `sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-all` work? or should I do that instead
[00:27] <Bashing-om> brookerose1312: "show" is to look and think about it . I expect however the install to pull in additional drivers.
[00:27] <brookerose1312> gotcha
[00:27] <brookerose1312> it's installed
[00:35] <tomreyn> "grep -rFi ELAN" on the xf86-input-libinput.git returns no output
[00:36] <brookerose1312> I *think* the i2c-hid kernel module needs to be enabled?
[00:36] <brookerose1312> and it isn't.
[00:37] <tomreyn> xf86-input-libinput.git is the source for package xserver-xorg-input-libinput which (in addition to a recommends against a a wacom package) is the only package xserver-xorg-input-all depends on, at least on 18.04
[00:37] <Towser> now, being open source and all, how do you make your own ubuntu distribution? like install it, customize it and pack it all up? if you're allowed to do it
[00:44] <soft_concrete> Towser: you're allowed to do it. There are ubuntu derivaties, such as xubuntu
[00:44] <soft_concrete> Linux Mint, I believe, is also based on Ubuntu
[00:48] <Towser> ok so how do you like make your own distro?
[00:52] <brookerose1312> That's a big ask, afaik.
[00:54] <guiverc> Towser, if I was going to do it, I'd look at someone who has done it and read their blogs.. eg. makulu linux used to be based on debian, when it switched to being based on Ubuntu, the main dev blogged about it, grabbing a script & modifying it for his own purpose, providing links to that too....
[00:58] <RonWhoCaresHP520> How do I change the default image viewer to "Shotwell" in Ubuntu 20.04 ?
[03:01] <ubone> i must have removed /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available how to get it back
[03:03] <matsaman> ubone: apt-file would probably be able to tell you
[03:04] <matsaman> probably from update-notifier-common
[03:16] <geosmile> ssh -o ProxyCommand="ssh -W %h:%p bastion-host" remote-host ----> kex_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host. ProxyJump is not working either - same error. Any ideas why?
[04:30] <qcpat> hi
[04:38] <geosmile> I have a usb stick that is read only for some reason. Any ideas  on how to fix that?
[04:38] <mnathani> netplan syntax : tabs or spaces, and how many?
[04:45] <robertparkerx> what is the proper way to stop rtorrent? I've read some mixed things...
[05:11] <Jordan_U> geosmile: What filesystem? How are you mounting it? Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[05:33] <gnoob> geosmile: I think they do that sometime when the go bad.
[05:41] <cthulchu|> wow, Plasma KDE is amazing
[05:41] <cthulchu|> it's actually such a pleasure
[05:41] <cthulchu|> and I'm running it on a 2015 laptop
[05:41] <cthulchu|> Gnome is great too. Running it on a 2005 laptop
[05:42] <cthulchu|> If it's gonna be as good as it is now, I will switch the rest of what I have to Ubuntu next year
[05:43] <guiverc> yeah I've been impressed with KDE Plasma too lately... gnome running great on a 2005 laptop though makes me wonder how high your standards are... (didn't like unity7 on a pentium 4 so never tried modern gnome)
[05:43] <cthulchu|> I feel kinda dumb for being a microsoft slave all these years
[05:44] <cthulchu|> oh, well, Gnome is somewhat glitchy on it, but I'm only using it as a home server and to watch movies with my wifey before sleeping
[05:44] <guiverc> sorry, I didn't realize the channel..
[05:44] <cthulchu|> what's with the channel?
[05:44] <guiverc> it's the support channel, I thought this was -offtopic or -discuss
[05:45] <cthulchu|> oh
[06:19] <Intelo> I want to upgrade obs studio to 25.0.8 but my distro 20 lts only have 25.0.3. What should I do?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: try the obs studio snap
[06:30] <Intelo> lotuspsychje: which version is this? https://snapcraft.io/obs-studio
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: obs-studio                   25.0.8                   snapcrafters        -        OBS Studio for live streaming and screen recording
[06:31] <Intelo> thanks. so I remove the old one?
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: test the snap first, to see if you like it
[06:39] <EliteGod^> hello folks. my VPS is having some connectivity issues. while the ZNC and other processes disconnect from time to time, SSH seems to be available even ten. any logs I can provide to help me debug this issue?
[06:42] <Intelo> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TQDZfKZqms/
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: for snap support please contact the maintainer: contact:   https://github.com/snapcrafters/obs-studio/issues
[06:52] <rfm> EliteGod^, does not sound like a Ubuntu problem, more something like your VPS provider is doing.  Would not expect any help here.
[06:54] <Intelo> lotuspsychje: whats the obs channel?
[06:55] <EliteGod^> I was wondering if could be some misconfiguration on netplan or even in ufw, but my ufw rules are only for incoming traffic and from specific IPS
[06:58] <EliteGod^> said issue started yesterday and so for the hosting provider says that they had no complaints about server connectivity from other clients ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[06:59] <EliteGod^> s/so for/so far/
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Intelo
[06:59] <Woet> EliteGod^: did you run a MTR?
[06:59] <EliteGod^> Woet: and how do I do that?
[07:00] <Woet> EliteGod^: install MTR, run it.
[07:00] <EliteGod^> Woet: any specific arguments that I should use?
[07:00] <Woet> EliteGod^: nope
[07:05] <EliteGod^> Woet: thanks. I'll do it and see the output if the VPS fails again
[07:21] <Adam__> I have 2 logs that somehow unexplicably filled up with over 200GB of data, anyone have any advice in looking into it? I'm concerned it might be a security compromise
[07:21] <Adam__> any known bugs that could lead to this?
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: pastebin a part of it so volunteers can see whats about, wich logs are they?
[07:23] <Adam__> which part? it's 200gb...
[07:23] <Adam__> `/var/log/syslog` and `/var/log/syglog.1`
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: wich ubuntu version is this?
[07:23] <Adam__> 20.04
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: ok, pastebin a part of it, where you think a lot of the same kind of errors are showing
[07:24] <Adam__> it's 200GB. I have no clue
[07:24] <Adam__> what's a good way to identify duplication?
[07:24] <Adam__> any suggestion on a tool to view the logs?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: without any clue, we cant grep any keywords
[07:25] <Adam__> well, that's my issue
[07:25] <Adam__> what clue can I give from a 200GB log?
[07:25] <Adam__> it's not like anything stands out from what I could see
[07:25] <Adam__> I looked at the last 500 lines, looked ok
[07:25] <Adam__> first 500 or so, same
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: common sense is needed here, search for very repetitive errors
[07:26] <Adam__> how do I know what's repeated when I can't see the vast majority of the file????
[07:26] <Adam__> what can I use to look over the file easier?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: you could pastebin your dmesg, and meanwhile when investigating things, open a realtime: journalctl -f to see whats going on
[07:27] <Adam__> ok
[07:31] <Adam__> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/xV1jQ4iU
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: dmesg looks pretty sane to me, unless the snap apparmor error about yaru icons
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: do you get those a lot in your realtime journal?
[07:34] <Adam__> nothing is happening really in the realtime journal, it spot out stuff at the start, then nothing
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> ok thats good news then
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: how about items in your /var/crash ?
[07:37] <Adam__> sec
[07:37] <Adam__> brave, gnome shell, nemo, virtualbox
[07:37] <Adam__> nothing crazy
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> gnome shell crashes could lead to filling logs with errors
[07:38] <Adam__> ok
[07:39] <Adam__> wait
[07:39] <Adam__> these crash reports look big
[07:39] <Adam__> one sec
[07:40] <Adam__> https://pastebin.com/iqwz9Xyd
[07:42] <Adam__> lotuspsychje ^
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: there's a few things you can try, is open your syslog anyway with command line editors or keep your journalctl -f open for a longer time and launch every one of the potential crash programs
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: find the root cause of whats spamming your logs
[07:43] <Adam__> ok
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: like, we know dmesg showed a lot of snap yaru errors, i would try the software centre for example
[07:44] <Adam__> is there any good tool for trying to read a log that size?
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: well, bigger text files will always lag a bit with any kind of tool, but perhaps pastebinit or nc to termbin can help out
[07:45] <Adam__> I mean, 200gb though...
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: can try, cat ~/some_file.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:46] <Adam__> I doubt a browser could even handle a 200gb file
[07:46] <Adam__> I need to view it in pieces
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: grep can help, but in your case we dont know whats causing things yet
[07:48] <ink> Hello, How can I back my Kubuntu OS, and use it in other computer?
[07:51] <Adam__> I found something
[08:01] <Adam__> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/QPMyrQUc
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> Adam__: ok, a lot of polari errors
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[08:39] <JeroenK> Not sure how to solve this wisely. Its about Run Command, Alt+F2. F2 and F3 are also my volume keys. And whenever I do Alt+F2 all that happens is lowering the volume. Maybe its an idea to put Run Command in the favourites bar? Dunno how though.
[08:47] <finish> Привет всем
[08:53] <EliteGod^> so, I seem to be on a dead end. `mtr` w/o any parameters show no packet loss, but some processes (like ZNC) did disconnected from IRC networks
[09:05] <snake-venom> Should i migrate my desktop Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS to Ubuntu 20.x LTS ?
[09:06] <jelly> snake-venom, sure, but you can't do that yet
[09:06] <snake-venom> is migration will effect on my files ? or is there any method to migrate ubuntu from old to new without effecting internal setting like installs packages and files system
[09:07] <snake-venom> jelly, "but you can't do that yet" sorry did not get you ,
[09:07] <jelly> there is an in-place upgrade mechanism, but it's not ready yet for 18.04 -> 20.04 release upgrades
[09:07] <snake-venom> ok
[09:08] <snake-venom> so means i should not take any chance to make it more hard :) i will wait for internal tool to migrate..
[09:08] <jelly> even with that, expect some breakage and changes in GUI and GUI-adjacent tools
[09:08] <revolt112> EliteGod^, what does your mtr to chat.freenode.net look like?
[09:09] <jelly> going from 16.04 to 18.04 broke Unity quite a bit
[09:09] <snake-venom> ok
[09:13] <jelly> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/focal-fossa-20-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/17604 ... aaand you left!
[09:16] <EliteGod^> revolt112: I do see some packet losses in two hosts when using `mtr chat.freenode.net`
[09:16] <revolt112> some packet loss should not be mission critical
[09:17] <EliteGod^> now 3 hosts and two of them above 50% loss
[09:18] <revolt112> but pinging works without timeouts?
[09:18] <revolt112> do you tried running znc in foreground and look at the output?
[09:18] <revolt112> some usefull hints?
[09:20] <EliteGod^> weird fact is that this started to happen just yesterday, and I've updated the VPS from Eoan to Focal more than 40 days ago
[09:20] <EliteGod^> I'm guessing there's something going on with the providers routing or something?
[09:20] <Woet> EliteGod^: where did you run a MTR to?
[09:21] <Woet> oh, chat.freenode
[09:21] <Woet> it's a round robin, it's best to make it match your actual server
[09:21] <Woet> [11:21:22] EliteGod^ is connected on adams.freenode.net (Budapest, HU, EU)
[09:21] <Woet> the most important thing is that the last hop has no packet loss
[09:24] <EliteGod^> well, the nick in question is PeGaSuS. so I assume that `mtr wolfe.freenode.net` is the command?
[09:26] <EliteGod^> I'm very newbie regarding this kind of commands tho
[09:28] <revolt112> EliteGod^, give it a go
[09:29] <EliteGod^> the loss for that specific server is 0%. is there any way to show the output of MTR in real-time?
[09:29] <EliteGod^> I mean, for outsiders
[09:30] <revolt112> what does znc say?
[09:31] <EliteGod^> Welp.. I guess that my provider needs to take actions. I lost SSH connection and can't reconnect -_-
[09:31] <EliteGod^> so, it's not an Ubuntu issue or misconfiguration on my end for sure
[09:40] <JeroenK> Anyone knows how I can do Run Command? See above question. Thx!
[09:42] <tomreyn> JeroenK: is this on a laptop?
[09:42] <JeroenK> yes, Lenovo laptop
[09:42] <tomreyn> you probably have a Fn (function) key there?
[09:43] <JeroenK> yes
[09:43] <tomreyn> enter the bios setup and disable the option which makes F1-F12 keys work as function keys no matter what
[09:44] <tomreyn> so that you'll have to press the Fn key + F2/F3 to actually change audio
[09:44] <tomreyn> /volume
[09:45] <JeroenK> Ah, so basically everything stays the same, but I need to press Fn to make it work?
[09:45] <tomreyn> for the volume keys, yes, but not for the command prompt (Alt-F2)
[09:46] <tomreyn> i don't know for sure whether your bios has this option, of course, i'm speculating, but i've seen this on ther laptops
[09:47] <JeroenK> Suppose I want to do refresh, it will be Fn+F5 instead of just F5? Also F10/11 are for brightness, after your suggestion it would be Fn+F10/F11
[09:48] <JeroenK> I will check the bios and see what happens.
[09:55] <tomreyn> all the functionality depicted by icons on (or next to) the F1-F11 keys will only work while also pressing Fn
[09:56] <exprosic> hi all, does anyone know what happened to the input method in the latest live cd? I can't find that ibus icon among the system tray like all the youtube videos of ubuntu livecd have, and manual 'ibus-daemon -d' has no effect.
[09:59] <Intelo> When I plug audio interface behringer um2 for mic, the mic works fine but I cannot hear any audio from computer. I have pav control and the audio line vibrates but I can't hear anything. Whats wrong?
[09:59] <tomreyn> exprosic: can you be more specific than "latest live cd"?
[10:00] <tomreyn> a file name may already help
[10:02] <exprosic> tomreyn, sure, ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:04] <exprosic> tomreyn, with unity, booted into the live cd without installation
[10:04] <tomreyn> exprosic: unity?
[10:06] <tomreyn> i don't think there's any support for the unity desktop on this iso
[10:07] <tomreyn> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS was the latest LTS release defaulting to Unity.
[10:07] <tomreyn> 18.04 LTS and 20.04 LTS use mutter/gnome-shell
[10:08] <tomreyn> i'm downloading ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso right now, will run it in a VM and see if i can bring up ibus.
[10:08] <exprosic> tomreyn, sorry i have indeed missed years of ubuntu history. I should be gnome but looks very similar with unity. Anyway it's the one I've downloaded from the official website minutes ago without choosing specific desktops or so
[10:09] <exprosic> *it should be
[10:09] <exprosic> tomreyn, thanks dude
[10:14] <dragosiku> hi all
[10:14] <tomreyn> exprosic: when you go to Settings -> Region & Language -> Manage installed Languages and confirm to install the missing components, then close it, does the Language Support window say "Keyboard input method system: IBus" on the bottom?
[10:15] <dragosiku> hi all
[10:15] <dragosiku> who can hep me with a problem
[10:15] <tomreyn> !ask | hi dragosiku
[10:16] <dragosiku> i bought a OVH vps and i have few domain names, i wish to configure the VPS server to receive all emails for individual domain name
[10:16] <dragosiku> to receive and send from the VPS and also the VPS server to have mail server configured for all domains individual
[10:17] <exprosic> tomreyn, I've tried that moments ago, the only thing it installed was some cjk fonts which I don't need, and after that the ibus icons was still missing. I'll try again with a fresh bootup
[10:18] <tomreyn> exprosic: i'm not really into ibus, so may just be missing something, not sure how to test it.
[10:19] <tomreyn> dragosiku: which ubuntu variant and version do you have installed there? which kernel version is running?
[10:20] <dragosiku> 5.4.0-40-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 23 00:01:04 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:20] <exprosic> tomreyn, did you find the ibus icon after installing the missing components?
[10:20] <dragosiku> Welcome to Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.4.0-40-generic x86_64)
[10:21] <talx> hello guys, good week! -- I have a problem I can't figure out how to resolve. ---- when trying to run pycharm-community, I get "cannot open path of the current working directory: Permission denied" ... everything I know of has the right permissions and I think I visited any link in google regarding this
[10:21] <talx> anyone has an idea what should I check ?
[10:24] <tomreyn> exprosic: hmm, no, i wouldn't know what provides this icon in the first place, or what it would do exactly.
[10:25] <tomreyn> exprosic: there's "ibus-setup", a command you can run,maybe this helps?
[10:27] <exprosic> tomreyn, no it didn't. funny thing: the reason I booted ubuntu was to test another ibus functionality (more precisely: bug) which allegedly works in GNOME, so I tried the canonical GNOME distro.
[10:28] <tomreyn> dragosiku: you'll need to setup a mail server (such as postfix) with virtual mail domains. generally, ubuntu server support is also available in #ubuntu-server.
[10:29] <exprosic> the ime sucks exactly like 10 years ago.
[10:29] <dragosiku> tomreyn up to there i need to manage DNS from provider, can you help me that ?
[10:29] <tomreyn> exprosic: sorry, i don't think i can really help there. good luck!
[10:30] <dragosiku> lol
[10:30] <dragosiku> ok
[10:31] <exprosic> tomreyn, no problem, thanks anyway
[10:32] <tomreyn> dragosiku: i wasn't talking to you there. you'd need to point your domains' mx record to your vps's ip address, with a priority of e.g. 10. but you shouldn't do this before you've set things up properly on the vps, to not loose mail.
[10:33] <dragosiku> tomreyn can you point me how to do that please ?
[10:33] <JeroenK> K, forgot the nick of the person who helped me with Run Command, but I'm @ Bios now https://upload.picpaste.me/images/2020/08/23/15981786091089215210919558517533.jpg
[10:34] <JeroenK> I assume I need to disable hotkey mode?
[10:35] <tomreyn> dragosiku: how to configure authoritative dns for your domain names will depend on how you're hosting it. most people do not host authoritative dns themselves, but use a hosted service for it. most of the time this is a service included with domain name registration or web hosting.
[10:35] <tomreyn> JeroenK: that was me. and yes, i'd say that's the option you're looking for.
[10:36] <JeroenK> Aye
[10:36] <tomreyn> JeroenK: you probably also want to enable SVM support while you're there
[10:36] <dragosiku> tomreyn i have 2 domains name, bistrita.xyz and dragos.xyz for the moment, i need to point for both of them on OVH provider for forward the emails for individual one
[10:37] <JeroenK> O darn, just now left bios, I will return, sec
[10:37] <tomreyn> JeroenK: it's entirely unrelated, though, SVM is for hardware supported virtualization
[10:37] <tomreyn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization#AMD_virtualization_.28AMD-V.29
[10:38] <tomreyn> if you'll never use virtualization, keep it disabled.
[10:39] <tomreyn> dragosiku: get support from ovh on how to do this, they're hosting your authoritative dns servers
[10:39] <JeroenK> What is SVM support about anyway?
[10:39] <dragosiku> tomreyn i did not pay for the support package :D
[10:41] <tomreyn> dragosiku: it's outside the scope of ubuntu support, though
[10:41] <tomreyn> JeroenK: see the wikipedia link i posted
[10:41] <dragosiku> if i print screen and upload the DNS page setup can you point me ?
[10:42] <JeroenK> K, both done, let's see what happens
[10:45] <JeroenK> Alright, shit seems to work :)
[10:45] <JeroenK> Thanks!
[10:50] <tomreyn> dragosiku: personally i'd recommend against hosting your own mail server if you're not into configuring authoritative dns, yet.
[10:51] <dragosiku> how to  configuring authoritative dns
[10:55] <JeroenK> O,  ow I seemed to killed off Fn+F11 for full screen. But thar
[10:55] <JeroenK> thats okay ;)
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: also update your system to latest
[11:13] <dragosiku> lotuspsychje all done, ready to forward DNS if you can help me please
[11:13] <dragosiku> http://bistrita.xyz/dnspage1.JPG
[11:13] <dragosiku> http://bistrita.xyz/dnspage2.JPG
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: i think tomreyn adviced you right already, you're in good hands at the server channel
[11:14] <dragosiku> i need to point them to MY VPS's IPv4 address is: <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: just wanted to point out your kernel was a bit behind
[11:14] <dragosiku> no one answer there
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: its sunday, might have a bit of patience today
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> dragosiku: usually more active users at weekday, US wakeup timezone in -server
[11:18] <Intelo> My headphones not working. What could be wrong?
[11:18] <Intelo>  https://imgur.com/o4qLe5i.png   https://imgur.com/olU6x2g.png
[11:50] <Ascavasaion> What do I install to connect to an IRc network that requires identd?
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: for irc questions in general please join #freenode
[11:52] <Ascavasaion> I found it.. oidentd
[11:52] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: It was an ubuntu Q
[11:58] <Mat63> Hello, in the command line user, I type:
[11:58] <Mat63> su -
[11:59] <Mat63> then I digitize the same password that I use to enter Ubuntu every time I start section.
[12:01] <Mat63> su: Authentication failure
[12:02] <Mat63> many times I download programs and it asks for my password, then I enter the password and it works. But now that I want superuser permission the message is Authentication Failure
[12:03] <Mat63> It may be that for superuser you have another password?
[12:07] <Mat63> hi
[12:08] <InFlames> lotuspsychje: I'm the one who was asking for help on the logs, turns out Polari was somehow causing this massive amount of logs, all logs shrunk to 2MB max after cleaning this app out of them. Thanks again
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> great to hear InFlames
[12:11] <Mat63> help
[12:12] <InFlames> I am surpised with the default log rotation and compression of Ubuntu that it was able to fill the log like that
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> InFlames: these days logs are handled by journal
[13:16] <Sven_vB> hi! In lspci, is this a wifi antenna? which kernel module would be appropriate to use it? 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 3e)
[13:19] <Sven_vB> I'll try the options from https://slackalaxy.com/2020/03/29/centrino-ultimate-n-6300-not-responding/
[13:20] <Towser> let me be a bit more specific about yesterday's question. how do you make your own ubuntu distro like something that uses ubuntu but it's highly changed around to be a different distro
[13:20] <NetTerminalGene> is wayland default for 20.04?
[13:22] <NetTerminalGene> ok nevermind. it is
[13:22] <NetTerminalGene> X
[13:25] <Sven_vB> Towser, I think that question would be more suitet in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:39] <Mystified> during installation I did not activate fingerprint reader as a login method
[13:40] <Mystified> I've looked under users & there is no option to activate the fingerprint security feature
[13:40] <Mystified> anu suggestions please
[13:40] <Mystified> btw I have a lenovo yoga
[13:40] <Mystified> laptop
[13:41] <Mystified> thanks in advance!
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> hey ioria o/
[15:20] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hey, how you doing ?
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> all good over here ty ; )
[15:21] <ioria> good
[15:24] <nitindo> Hi, is anyone facing GDM and top bar of gnome shell being too big after recent updates? I have to go to display and change fractional scaling and revert them to get expected size of top bar
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: is it only top bar, or your whole resolution?
[15:33] <nitindo> just the top bar after login, but for GDM its the whole screen
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: can you check if your graphics driver is installed correctly: sudo lshw -C video
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: at bottom should show driver= here
[15:35] <nitindo> Its fine. I can play RDR2 :) configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> yeah that seems good
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: can you pastebin your dpkg logs from the date you suspect your issue started?
[15:36] <nitindo> sure
[15:39] <geosmile> for 20.04 - what is a good replacement for xpdf. evince is too slow for that
[15:39] <nitindo> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VNznPfbWvR/
[15:40] <croraf> ioria, hi, yesterday i came back after 9 months, remembering how you and me solved that pesky HP Omen, Wayland bug.  Do you remember https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1852636?comments=all ?
[15:40] <croraf> After 9 months I still have microphone issues.
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: i see some gnome related updates and also mutter updates, let me see if i can find relevant recent bugs
[15:42] <ioria> croraf, yes, i remember; sorry to hear that; what about the mic problem ?
[15:43] <croraf> just to say once more. you were so great at that issue :) .  Finaly when you quit some god's hand led me to the Wayland disable solution :D
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> !info mutter
[15:44] <nitindo> lotuspsycheje: Thanks, I can help debug the issue as well if you need.
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: can you check if bug #1892605 is what you experience?
[15:44] <croraf> Basically the internal microphone is not working, the jack plug microphone is working, and bluetooth mic stopped working after 20.04 update last month.
[15:44] <croraf> ioria,
[15:44] <croraf> I dont know if you are good with audio, and you are interested in the bug, have time, we can take a look (but slowly).
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> croraf: i found a bug you commented on, related to what nitindo experiences, can you confirm?
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> croraf: bug #1892521
[15:46] <croraf> yes
[15:46] <croraf> this is already reported
[15:47] <nitindo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892521
[15:47] <ioria> croraf, honestly, not very good at audio; i usually check if the device is detected (arecord -l) and if not i  use hdajackretask
[15:47] <nitindo> This matches yes :)
[15:47] <croraf> how do you know i have the same?
[15:47] <croraf> lotuspsychje,
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> croraf: read the bug link, your name is among the answers
[15:48] <croraf> oh ok :D
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: please affect the bug on the left upper corner
[15:48] <hydrian> Ello all
[15:48] <croraf> i got ubuntu patch yesterday, hoped it will get fixed but it didnt :/
[15:49] <hydrian> does anybody know how to forbid the current version of the kernel? It is causing X to segfault for me. I don't want it to stop upgrading when the next version comes out.
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: please feel free to add your experience to the bug too, and add a screenshot of the bigger bar
[15:50] <croraf> ioria, yes, after some time i found one suggestion that suggested this hdajackretask
[15:51] <croraf> i think this is the solution
[15:51] <croraf> but would be tedious to set it up correctly, right?
[15:51] <ioria> croraf, nope, just select unconnect pins ans scroll down the devices and
[15:52] <croraf> There are those alsa-base.conf options like "options snd-hda-intel model=inv-dmic" but my codec is not in the list, so i dont know which to select
[15:52] <ioria> croraf, enable yours
[15:52] <croraf> Are those model's like a preset to what is done manually in this tool you suggest.
[15:52] <croraf> ioria,
[15:53] <ioria> croraf, i don't think so
[15:53] <croraf> because when i change the "model" value there some mics do show. Like I managed to show "rear microphone" but it collects sound from my laptop and loops it back
[15:54] <geosmile> any recommendations for xpdf replacement on 20.04lts?
[15:54] <croraf> ioria, https://pasteboard.co/JnItsHC.png
[15:55] <croraf> I guess my internal microphone should be on the Intel device not the Nvidia one?
[15:56] <ioria> croraf, tick 'unconnected pins'
[15:56] <croraf> https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c06395354.pdf HP Wide Vision HD Camera with integrated dual array digital microphone
[15:56] <hydrian> and not have it uninstall the virual kernel package
[15:57] <nitindo> Coolio will do thanks
[15:57] <croraf> ioria, ok i have a lot of them from 0x12 - 0x21
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: thank you for helping the community and the devs
[15:57] <croraf> ioria, but i do see Internal Speaker as connected
[15:58] <ioria> croraf, i gues you want interl mic not internal speakers
[15:58] <croraf> oh, sorry, yes
[15:58] <croraf> ioria,
[15:58] <ioria>  *internal
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: a bit more info and details please of your ubuntu version and kernel?
[15:59] <croraf> ioria, if i select Override on some i do see a list of 8 devices to set on the pin
[16:00] <croraf> actually not all pins give the same list
[16:00] <croraf> some pins give only internal mic
[16:01] <ioria> croraf, sy, i have to leave for now; good luck
[16:01] <croraf> np, have a nice day :)
[16:01] <hydrian> lotuspsychje:  5.4.0-42-generic it is causeing X to segfault.
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: can you confirm a previous kernel version is not segfaulting?
[16:02] <hydrian> I'm running a AMD Ryzen 3700U APU
[16:02] <hydrian> If I rollback to 5.4.0-26-generic, I don't have a problem.
[16:03] <hydrian> system is fully updated with not external PPAs.
[16:03] <hydrian> (Brand new install)
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: could you pastebin your dmesg please?
[16:04] <hydrian> dmesg doesn't show anything. It was showing a segfault in Xorg.log
[16:05] <hydrian> The system would boot, but when lightdm would start, the video would hang (not the system). I could do an Alt-ctrl-delete with a clean shutdown.
[16:06] <hydrian> I booted into single user mode and checked the logs, nothing in dmesg/kernel.log
[16:06] <hydrian> Xorg had an issue.
[16:07] <hydrian> Another odd thing was that the new kernel would work from a warm reboot, but not from a cold boot.
[16:08] <hydrian> i.e. boot to rescue.target, 'shutdown -r now' and the normal boot would work fine.
[16:08] <hydrian> boot from  poweroff, I'd get a seg fault
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: did you file a bug against the kernel yet?
[16:08] <hydrian> not yet.
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: ok, lemme see if i can find relevant recent ones
[16:09] <hydrian> My wife has been needing this computer for a week now. Not sure if I'm going to have type to deep dive it it.
[16:09] <hydrian> s/type/time/
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: cant find one right away related to yours, could you file a new !bug please?
[16:13] <hydrian> !bug
[16:13] <hydrian> I'll give it a try.
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: just ubuntu-bug linux, from terminal will do the trick
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: you have a launchpad account?
[16:14] <hydrian> lotuspsychje: For many years...
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> cool
[16:14] <hydrian> I've been using/fighting with linux since the 1990's.
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> lovely
[16:16] <hydrian> I was one of those psycho's that ran gentoo as their daily driver. Then I had kids.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: after sending the bug report, you can add a title + description of your segfault
[16:20] <geosmile>  anyone has any recommendations for xpdf replacement on 20.04?
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> geosmile: not sure whats your endgoal, but a lightweight pdf reader is mupdf
[16:40] <tomreyn> hydrian: you're saying the X segfult is not on the current dmesg. i assume you rebooted since. if so, you should be able to access the previous sessions' logs using    journalctl -b -1
[16:41] <tomreyn> journalctl --list-boots to show the runtimes which have been logged (the first column of which is what you'd pass to -b)
[16:42] <tomreyn> in case you're using the priprietary amd driver overlay ("amdgpu-pro"), be sure to point this out.
[16:45] <nitindo> Updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1892521.
[16:45] <hydrian> tomreyn: The seg fault is in the Xorg log, not dmesg
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> nitindo: thank you for affecting the bug, and adding a screenshot! the community thanks you
[16:47] <tomreyn> hydrian: okay, it'll be in journald, too, though.
[17:04] <TheMadDrizzle> I have a USB stick that I'm building to install xubuntu onto an older BayTrail laptop that won't boot a standard 64bit UEFI, so a translator file is required in the ' ../BOOT/EFI/ ' directory of the stick.  I cannot for the life of me figure out how to push this file to the directory as it's marked as a read only drive.  Permissions change and using sudo cp or sudo mv will not push this file.
[17:19] <coconut> Has the partitioner of the ubuntu 20.04.1 installer the same source code as the one of the ubuntu mate 20.04.1 ?
[17:24] <cobradabest> Hey, can someone help me? I'm trying to connect my Xbox One controller via USB, and it doesn't work.
[17:24] <cobradabest> When I plug it in, it just briefly vibrates, and then nothing.
[17:36] <ltpkunskapz> hi, i'm trying to mount an external usb dvd in ubuntu.
[17:36] <ltpkunskapz> however it doesn't show in /dev
[17:37] <ltpkunskapz> and i can't really localize it using lshw
[17:37] <ltpkunskapz> as it doesn't really show up at all
[17:38] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: USB?
[17:39] <ltpkunskapz> it is an IDE DVD with an USB adapter
[17:39] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: Is there a DVD in it now?
[17:39] <ltpkunskapz> yes
[17:39] <cobradabest> Can someone help me with my problem with the Xbox One controller?
[17:40] <ltpkunskapz> hmm not showing up in windows neither. when i did the same with an IDE CDROM it worked in windows.
[17:40] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: try this: go to a terminal window and type "eject" ...
[17:40] <ltpkunskapz> and in ubuntu
[17:40] <ltpkunskapz> eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[17:41] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: try "lsusb"
[17:42] <ltpkunskapz> rjwiii: it's not showing
[17:42] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: silly question: do you have power running to the DVD drive?
[17:42] <ltpkunskapz> an assortment of usb root hubs
[17:42] <ltpkunskapz> yes
[17:43] <ltpkunskapz> the LED is flashing and all :)
[17:44] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: I've never used a IDE to USB converter ... I just bought a USB DVD drive ... they're cheap ...
[17:45] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: Maybe the converter needs a driver?
[17:49] <ltpkunskapz> rjwiii: it's weird because the other old CDROM worked
[17:49] <ltpkunskapz> but it's gear so
[17:50] <ltpkunskapz> old gear*
[17:50] <bostongeek36> who uses cd-roms anymore?
[17:50] <rjwiii> ltpkunskapz: has the drive worked before?
[17:50] <bostongeek36> you still use buggy whips?
[17:51] <helo> cdroms work great for scraping frost off of a windshield
[17:51] <ltpkunskapz> yea
[17:51] <rjwiii> bostongeek36: Hey, I still have a flop;y drive ... : )
[17:51] <cobradabest> Imagine picking on someone because of the format they prefer to use.
[17:51] <bostongeek36> weirdo'
[17:51] <cobradabest> I use all kinds of formats, myself.
[17:52] <bostongeek36> zip drives
[17:52] <rjwiii> bostongeek36: and it's 5 1/4 ...
[17:52] <cobradabest> And people like above only make me want to do it more.
[17:52] <bostongeek36> still got them wax cyinders going
[17:52] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: disconnect it on the computers' end, run    journalctl -f    in a terminal window, and keep the temrinal window visible, then connect the cdrom, and see what gets logged.
[17:52] <bostongeek36> tell your teenagers to turn on the recordplayer
[17:53] <bostongeek36> your gonna need a young priest and a old priest
[17:53] <tomreyn> !ot | bostongeek36
[17:53] <bostongeek36> i am
[17:54] <bostongeek36> so thanks ubottu
[17:55] <ltpkunskapz> tomreyn: nothing
[17:55] <ltpkunskapz> the USB converter also has lights on
[17:56] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: which ubuntu release are you running there?
[17:56] <ltpkunskapz> but it's yellow, not sure if that's the right color
[17:56] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds
[17:56] <tomreyn> and what's the output of    cat /proc/version
[17:56] <ltpkunskapz> Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS \n \l
[17:58] <ltpkunskapz> it's a new kernel and gcc 7.5.0
[17:58] <tomreyn> is it a stock kernel?
[17:58] <tomreyn> an ubuntu kernelk?
[17:58] <bostongeek36> doesnt support cdrom
[17:59] <ltpkunskapz> yes
[17:59] <ltpkunskapz> stock
[17:59] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: which one?
[17:59] <bostongeek36> i used cds as good frizebees
[17:59] <tomreyn> bostongeek36: please don't chat on this very channel, it's really only for ubuntu support Q&A
[18:00] <ltpkunskapz> 4.15.0-112-generic
[18:00] <bostongeek36> :P
[18:00] <bostongeek36> fine i won't make fun of people using old tech
[18:01] <cobradabest> At least we aren't lapdogs of any mega corporations.
[18:01] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: disconnect all usb devices you don't strictly need, and connect the cdrom to a differen usb port, if possible on the opposite side of the computer.
[18:07] <ltpkunskapz> still doesn't show up
[18:10] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: try on a different computer then, but it's likely some broken wire or hardware
[18:10] <ltpkunskapz> it didn't show up in windows neither
[18:10] <ltpkunskapz> so
[18:10] <ltpkunskapz> but the light is on and i can hear it speed up
[18:11] <coconut> Has the partitioner of the ubuntu 20.04.1 installer the same source code as the partitioner of ubuntu mate 20.04.1 ?
[18:14] <tomreyn> coconut: stock ubuntu uses the ubiquity installer. i'm not sure which installer mate uses.
[18:15] <tomreyn> ltpkunskapz: you can try replacing the wire, andf seek support with what so far looks like broken hardware in ##hardware
[18:16] <ltpkunskapz> ok, tried the cdrom for reference
[18:17] <ltpkunskapz> it works without problem
[18:17] <ltpkunskapz> is assigned to /dev/sr0
[18:17] <coconut> tomreyn, is the partitioner then basicly just gparted ?
[18:19] <tomreyn> coconut: i *think* its part of ubiquity itself.
[18:22] <coconut> tomreyn, ok then thank you :) (having a bug here on the partitioner where doing a custom option set of paritions, make the already existing partitions one MB bigger(which i think will go wrong...))
[18:24] <tomreyn> good luck
[18:24] <coconut> :)
[18:26] <ltpkunskapz> no dvd for me
[18:26] <ltpkunskapz> back to xvid
[18:26] <hydrian> lotuspsychje: tomreyn : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JmDt8HBrMH/
[18:26] <ltpkunskapz> thx for the help tho, i appreciate it tomreyn
[18:26] <hydrian> there's the dmesg from the same boot
[18:31] <bostongeek36> i have a dvddvddvddvd
[18:31] <tomreyn> hydrian: so a gpu ring timeout. you may be better off with a newer graphics stack + kernel. can you share the full kernel log?
[18:32] <carlesc> I am currently running socat to listen to a TCP port and redirect a serial port to it whenever a client connects. Can I also execute a script using socat *after* the client connects but *before* the serial port redirection begins?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> bostongeek36: can we help you?
[18:34] <tomreyn> !uptodate | hydrian: you're actually running an outdated kernel image
[18:34] <tomreyn> (or were when this was logged)
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: think the -26 was the one he didnt have the segfault on
[18:35] <bostongeek36> guess you don't watch jeffery ross lotuspsychje
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> bostongeek36: lets keep it ontopic here tnx : )
[18:37] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: hmm, yes, this can be why hydrian posted this one instead.
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: when kernel -42 segfaults can you still enter system?
[18:44] <tomreyn> iks there a bug report on this, yet?
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: i asked him to file it, but didnt came in yet
[18:45] <tomreyn> i see, thanks.
[18:51] <hydrian> lotuspsychje: I can try. I have to reinstall that kernel again
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: kernel -42 is current kernel on 20.04
[18:52] <tomreyn> hydrian: if only X segfaults you should be able to switch to a tty with ctrl-alt-f3 without problems
[18:53] <tomreyn> !sysrq| hydrian: or, worst case
[18:58] <hydrian> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rrzBmyZKjN/ - updated kernel
[18:58] <hydrian> It looks like this isn't a regression
[18:59] <hydrian> I think the issue is just intermittent...
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: try to proceed with your bug, you will help yourself and the community
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-bug linux
[19:30] <jem> Hi, this is just a curiosity, I just got accidentally this: ㏚ (Square pr, Unicode 0x33DA) when trying to type "Pr"; I pressed some wrong keys but I can't know which ones
[19:30] <jem> That was in plain bash
[19:31] <jem> And it's not the first time, it happened with other letter combinations and never figured out
[19:32] <jem> Searching, I can find about Ctrl+Shift+U33DA but nothing involving P and R
[20:00] <Sven_vB> jem, it's in the Cjk Compatibility block. do you happen to have some asian keyboard layout set up?
[20:01] <Sven_vB> jem, I could imagine it's typed by some compose key, then P, then r
[20:06] <jem> Sven_vB: No, Spanish keyboard, no special configuration
[20:06] <jem> I imagine the same but I can't reproduce it
[20:11] <RonWhoCaresHP520> Does anyone know the path to where network printer settings are stored?
[20:11] <RonWhoCaresHP520> (the file path)
[20:17] <hydrian> tomreyn: Definitely a kernel bug. Found a blog saying it is fixed in 5.6 which you can get with linux-oem-5.6-20.04 package
[21:25] <Aavar> RonWhoCaresHP520: I dont know, but from a curiosity standpoint. Why?
[21:32] <oerheks> Aavar, i helped him find the deb driver for his printer, i have no clue euther
[21:32] <oerheks> c/either
[21:32] <oerheks> and he must be crossposting..
[21:37] <craigbass76> Does the cinnamon version of Ubuntu (20.04) have a support channel, or am I better off asking over in the Mint room on another IRC network?
[21:39] <oerheks> craigbass76, cinnamon is in our repos, no dedicated channel AFAIK.
[21:40] <oerheks> i have no clue about cinnamon myself.
[21:41] <craigbass76> I can't figure out how to drag my windows list app over to the left. I almost went XFCE, but thought I had trouble a year or so ago with dropbox or something.
[21:47] <AndreYuhai> How can I always open gnome terminal without the toolbar? I am using i3.
[21:52] <craigbass76> AndreYuhai, Ctrl Alt t is how I have always done it, but that's not always the default
[21:53] <AndreYuhai> craigbass76, yes, but I meant configuring it to open always without the toolbar on the top.
[21:54] <craigbass76> Ahh. No idea then.
[21:54] <AndreYuhai> I've read somewhere gnome terminal doesn't have a config file but not sure so I wanted to ask here.
[21:57] <craigbass76> Wonder if you can snag another default terminal and monkey with that instead.
[21:59] <AndreYuhai> Oh I just didn't want to install another terminal just because of all the configs and stuff but looks like I will. :D
[22:37] <AndreYuhai> I've just installed alacritty from source but when I want to switch to it as default terminal it doesn't show up in the select screen of the command "sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator"
[22:37] <AndreYuhai> How do I go about it?
[22:40] <UndeadLeech> AndreYuhai: Did you install the desktop file?
[22:41] <UndeadLeech> I think you can also just pass the path to update-alternatives, like /usr/bin/alacritty. But I'm not on Ubuntu so I can't verify it.
[22:41] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, No.
[22:41] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, oh if I can do that then that would be nice
[22:41] <AndreYuhai> I will try
[22:42] <UndeadLeech> You should probably install the desktop file, I'm not sure if that's required or not. But if you run a DE you probably want it anyways.
[22:43] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, I have i3 installed as well. Not sure whether I still have to install the desktop file.
[22:43] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, by the way that command does not seem to accept the path but I am checking the manual now.
[22:45] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, actually it does have an option to give a path but then I get "error: alternative /usr/bin/alacritty for x-terminal-emulator not registered; not setting"
[22:45] <iogui> Desktop files seems to be useless for i3
[22:47] <UndeadLeech> Basically, yeah. Though you can run DE with i3 too. Just depends on what you're doing.
[22:47] <UndeadLeech> AndreYuhai: What's the full command you're running?
[22:48] <AndreYuhai> UndeadLeech, sudo update-alternatives --set x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/alacritty
[22:48] <iogui> UndeadLeech: what is DE?
[22:48] <UndeadLeech> update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/alacritty 20
[22:48] <UndeadLeech> You can try that, but I don't remember exactly what it does^
[22:48] <UndeadLeech> But that's what has been done in the past automatically for the .deb.
[22:48] <UndeadLeech> iogui: Desktop Environment. Like GNOME/KDE.
[22:51] <iogui> UndeadLeech: If I'm not missing some point here, Desktop Environment and window manager are the same, right?
[22:51] <AndreYuhai> I am trying that command
[22:53] <iogui> AndreYuhai: why not just edit the bindsym $mod+Return on your i3 config file?
[22:54] <UndeadLeech> iogui: That's incorrect.
[22:55] <UndeadLeech> KDE's window manager by default is kwin for example.
[22:55] <AndreYuhai> iogui, oh yea lol I never thought about that. All these config files and installations and stuff got me high.
[22:55] <UndeadLeech> i3's i3-sensible-terminal will also find Alacritty by default if you don't have any other terminals installed.
[22:56] <tomreyn> sudo update-alternatives --set x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/alacritty && sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
[22:57] <tomreyn> actually that wont work if its not registered already
[22:57] <AndreYuhai> tomreyn, no, it didn't
[22:57] <tomreyn> --install is correct
[22:57] <AndreYuhai> but when I try install I get an error as well
[22:57] <AndreYuhai> Let me share
[22:58] <tomreyn> maybe you missed to specify priority
[22:59] <AndreYuhai> Oh yea it worked now haha
[22:59] <AndreYuhai> before it was saying something like x-terminal is already being used by something els
[23:00] <AndreYuhai> Now everything is good I've changed it, thank you!
[23:00] <tomreyn> UndeadLeech really provided the full command to add it earlier
[23:01] <iogui> UndeadLeech: My point is, if you are using i3 as your window manager, it doesn't really matter what is yout desktop environment becouse you don't need it
[23:01] <UndeadLeech> You can still run a DE and i3.
[23:04] <iogui> UndeadLeech: maybe but if you are really using i3, it doesn't really matter.  I wouldn't make any assumptions just because someone's running i3.
[23:06] <davido_> My Ubuntu 20.04 system seems to be having trouble with the Thunderbolt 3 dock. The dock appears to be working fine, but every few seconds: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YbxTM7gdHp/
[23:06] <iogui> UndeadLeech: and i3-sensible-terminal will not find any terminal if you are not using i3-sensible-terminal in yout i3 config file
[23:07] <UndeadLeech> Correct.
[23:07] <davido_> I could almost be ok with it, except it's certainly wasteful, and it causes a little icon to appear in the ribbon at the top of the primary monitor for a few seconds, then disappear, then return again. That part is really annoying.
[23:08] <tomreyn> !uptodate | davido_: is your system fully updated? here's how
[23:09] <davido_> tomreyn yes, it is. I do so almost daily.
[23:09] <tomreyn> davido_: what's the output of     cat /proc/version
[23:11] <tomreyn> and which dock is it exactly?
[23:11] <davido_> Linux version 5.4.0-42-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-038) (gcc version 9.3.0 (Ubuntu 9.3.0-10ubuntu2)) #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 10 00:24:02 UTC 2020
[23:12] <davido_> It's a ThinkPad Thunderbolt 3 doc. I'll grab the model... just a moment.
[23:13] <tomreyn> davido_: please:   sudo lspci -knn | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:14] <davido_> 40AC0135US is the model
[23:14] <davido_> https://termbin.com/37le
[23:16] <davido_> This seems similar: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206109
[23:16] <davido_> I actually have two of these identical laptops. The other is running centos7, and doesn't have the same behavior. I don't have it up at the moment, so I don't remember what kernel version it's on.
[23:18] <tomreyn> davido_: likely a lower kernel version then, and the bug report you pointed to suggests it started with 5.4
[23:19] <davido_> probably. It also only recently began. I've been using Ubuntu 20.04 for awhile now, but began noticing it last week.
[23:20] <davido_> though I don't always use the dock with this LT. It could have started a week or so before that without me discovering it.
[23:20] <davido_> alright, I suppose i'm stuck with it this way awhile until a bugfix comes out.
[23:20] <tomreyn> davido_: just grep over journalctl for this:      probing: timeout, done
[23:21] <tomreyn> ...and you'll know when it started
[23:22] <davido_> well, there ya have it: Began May 1, but I didn't start seeing the icon popping up and going away repeatedly until a week or so ago.
[23:23] <tomreyn> davido_: you should probably file a bug against ubuntu's boltd as well (if there isn't one alreadY), then comment on and refer to it at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bolt/bolt/-/issues/156 as well, and maybe try a newer boltd
[23:23] <craigbass76> Anyone else had trouble with older samsung notebooks not wanting to boot off anything but the hard drive? I've got boot priority set to DVD and USB, but it's not spinning up the drive or making the thumb drive blink.
[23:23] <craigbass76> Well, I get blinking after WIndows is booted...
[23:23] <davido_> I've never filed a bug in Ubuntu's RT. This'll be a first, I guess.
[23:24] <tomreyn> !bug | davido_
[23:28] <davido_> How long should I expect the browser to keep refreshing ?
[23:28] <tomreyn> davido_: usually no more than 2 minutes
[23:31] <tomreyn> davido_: if this doesn't seem to work, just close the tab and re-run    ubuntu-bug bolt     # and if this still doesn't work, you can also report the bug here for now https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bolt/+filebug
[23:35] <davido_> Ok, reported. thanks.
[23:39] <tomreyn> davido_: it'd be good to also add a full dmesg and lspci -knn


[14:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[18:47]  * genii-around sips
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[06:24] <jibel> Good morning everyone!
[06:31] <duflu> Hi jibel
[06:35] <jibel> Hey duflu
[06:47] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:55] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[07:00] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:00] <callmepk> hi duflu jibel oSoMoN
[07:01] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk
[07:02] <didrocks> good morning!
[07:02] <callmepk> hi didrocks
[07:04] <didrocks> hey callmepk
[07:06] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[07:08] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:10] <ricotz> hey :) oSoMoN duflu callmepk didrocks
[07:10] <duflu> Hi ricotz
[07:12] <didrocks> morning ricotz
[07:36] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, good morning ricotz
[07:40] <didrocks> bonjour oSoMoN
[07:46] <jibel> salut oSoMoN didrocks ricotz
[07:47] <didrocks> salut jibel
[07:51] <callmepk> hi ricotz
[08:07] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[08:08] <ricotz> hey jibel
[08:09] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[08:10] <jamesh> oSoMoN: I might be totally off base about the Firefox issue here: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/firefox-snap-wont-start-under-ubuntu-21-10/27219/5?u=jamesh -- but if you don't have other ideas it might be something to test
[08:11] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[08:12] <oSoMoN> jamesh, yes, that's a good suggestion, thanks!
[08:15] <duflu> Hi seb128
[08:21] <KGB-1> gnome-shell-extension-impatience tags ebac97e Jonathan Carter upstream/0.4.6 * https://deb.li/3keIe
[08:23] <seb128> hey jamesh oSoMoN duflu, how are you?
[08:24] <jamesh> good
[08:26] <duflu> seb128, not bad, you?
[08:27] <oSoMoN> seb128, so far so good, my immune system is resisting the cold that my daughters brought back from school
[08:27] <seb128> duflu, tired but alright, I was waken up at 1am and again 6am and didn't manage to go back to sleep before the start of the day :-/
[08:27] <oSoMoN> ouch :/
[08:27] <duflu> :S
[08:27] <seb128> oSoMoN, don't forgot to sleep enough to increase the chance it stays this way!
[08:28] <oSoMoN> yes, that's a wise piece of advice, sleeping is key
[08:42] <ricotz> seb128, jamesh, hello
[09:07] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[09:09] <seb128> Trevinho, could you try to find an upstream to nag to review https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/634 ?
[09:09] <ricotz> seb128, all good here, I hope you find some rest over lunch :)
[09:10] <seb128> ricotz, thanks :)
[20:10] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, I've pinged Matthias
[20:10] <Trevinho> also do you know what's happening on pygobject?
[20:10] <Trevinho> it fails for a dependency I don't get
[20:12] <seb128> Trevinho, what is failing?
[20:12] <Trevinho> seb128: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygobject/3.42.0-1+build1/+build/22338395
[20:12] <Trevinho> a build depend on itself?
[20:12] <seb128> yes, seems weird, check with jbicha
[20:13] <Trevinho> looking at the logs it seems to fail as per cairo pkg, not sure if required by other dep?
[20:13] <Trevinho>  python3-gi-cairo : Depends: python3-gi (= 3.42.0-1) but it is not installable
[20:14] <seb128> well it's a binary from the same source
[20:14] <Trevinho> ah! gnome-pkg-tools depends on it?
[20:14] <Trevinho> not sure if that's picked though
[20:15] <Trevinho> so yeah...dh-sequence-gnome picks it I feel, and that's requiring gi-cairo
[20:16] <Trevinho> not sure how though, but it's marked as reverse dependency...
[20:16] <Trevinho> bah, no idea, I think locally i got it building fine on jammy
[20:18] <Trevinho> ah no it does only when using aptitude as dep resolver method
[20:19] <seb128> :-(
[20:19] <seb128> we had that issue in the past
[20:21] <Trevinho> mhmh, so gnome-pkg-tools brings in perl:any, dh-translations, gir1.2-rsvg-2.0, gir1.2-glib-2.0, python3, python3-gi-cairo, scour (>= 0.36-1~) not sure how it's generated, as the source isn't requiring it per se,
[20:22] <Trevinho> ah, that's scour the guilty
[20:26] <Trevinho> seb128: not sure if this is adding too complexity, but I think one way could be using gnome-pkg-tools to be as debian one is, thus providing a gnome-pkg-tools-ubuntu that in our case is the one providing dh-sequence-gnome, while the other will provide dh-sequence-gnome-debian or something like that...
[20:26] <Trevinho> then, low-level packages such as python3-gobject could just use dh-sequence-gnome-debian
[20:27] <Trevinho> otherwise, a temporary upload with ubuntu disabled features... and then back in
[20:27] <Trevinho> but it's a bit annoying that we may get into this chicken-egg problem again
[20:28] <Trevinho> or downgrading to suggests/recommends could somewhat improve this?
[20:36] <Trevinho> ok, with recommends compiles, but... is it this strong enough to always bring such packages (scour and its deps) in?
[20:38] <Trevinho> oh, well... actually scour already recommends python3-gi-cairo and friends, so imho we could just recommend scour, and it will install what needed if possible
[20:49] <seb128> Trevinho, we had to do that workaround in the past, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-pkg-tools/0.18.0ubuntu3
[20:49] <seb128> probably easiest to just do a workaround upload
[21:42] <jbicha> Trevinho: the problem started with Debian's gobject-introspection setting extra Breaks
[21:43] <Trevinho> jbicha: I see, well for now I've uploaded one without explicit depends, still wondering if normally the reccomends are picked if they don't cause troubles
[22:18] <jbicha> it looks like your upload allows gobject-introspection to build which should clear up the problem. Recommends are not installed by default on official builders so we'll need to undo your change once things clear up