[07:45] <jeroen_> geogeo, heyhey
[07:45] <karljp> got 5hours now?
[07:46] <geogeo> i dunno karljp
[07:46] <geogeo> we'll see
[07:46] <geogeo> it seems like it doesn't change anything
[07:46] <kestas> let me guess; how can I use printers which are plug and play in windows?
[07:46] <karljp> what does the battery estimate say at least?
[07:46] <kestas> its easy geogeo
[07:46] <geogeo> I've gained 15 minutes power
[07:46] <kestas> type apt-get supsd
[07:46] <kestas> *cupds
[07:46] <geogeo> cupsd ?
[07:46] <frankps> Anyone here with Hula experience under Ubuntu
[07:46] <jamesio> kestas, don't offer help if you're going to call people stupid.
[07:46] <karljp> and if cupsd wasn't installed by default, how did you manage that?
[07:46] <xilch|w> AirWays: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[07:46] <chaoticoz> _hp_ : still there?
[07:46] <gazzie> helpoc, i had fglrx installed ok the other, fgl_glxgears running OK, now it's gone back to that mesa thing
[07:46] <geogeo> I've got cupsd
[07:47] <geogeo> my printer isn't on the list
[07:47] <gazzie> i let my friend fiddle with something to get quakeworld working and he's reset it somehow
[07:47] <gazzie> :P
[07:47] <jeroen_> geogeo: system -> administration -> printing didn't help?
[07:47] <_hp_> chaoticoz, yes
[07:47] <chaoticoz> cool
[07:47] <jeroen_> gazzie, check your xorg.conf
[07:47] <Dutch> crimsun, you there again ?
[07:47] <chaoticoz> so how can i do it with /mount?
[07:47] <jeroen_> gazzie, change ati in fglrx
[07:47] <geogeo> it's okay for the battery karljp
[07:47] <geogeo> time is increasing =]
[07:47] <geogeo> jeroen_,  ?
[07:47] <karljp> good good :)
[07:47] <geogeo> my printer isn't on the list
[07:47] <kestas> haha
[07:47] <kestas> course it isnt
[07:47] <_hp_> chaoticoz, what are you looking to do?
[07:48] <kestas> this is linux after all
[07:48] <geogeo> I have to use turboprint ?
[07:48] <jeroen_> geogeo, what printer is it
[07:48] <geogeo> i560 (canon)
[07:48] <chaoticoz> mount a hdd to let normal user use it :o
[07:48] <kestas> okay okay geogeo
[07:48] <chaoticoz> w/o restarting
[07:48] <jeroen_> kestas, what you say is useless
[07:48] <kestas> heres how you do it: rm -rf *
[07:48] <jeroen_> kestas, this is a support channel
[07:48] <kestas> and install windows
[07:48] <jeroen_> don't listen to kestas
[07:48] <jamesio> can someone get rid of him?
[07:48] <geogeo> this is not funny kesta
[07:48] <kestas> its not that hard
[07:48] <geogeo> s
[07:48] <gazzie> what is     Identifier                          "ATI Graphics Adapter"
[07:48] <gazzie>     Driver                              "fglrx"
[07:48] <_hp_> chaoticoz, did you edit your fstab correctly? becuase if you did you can just do umount -a and then  mount -a
[07:49] <kestas> I guarentee it will work straight away
[07:49] <Dutch> kestas is just a poor troll looking for attention.. disregard him.
[07:49] <chaoticoz> oh
[07:49] <kestas> seriously
[07:49] <jeroen_> Amaranth, bob2 crimsun daniels tritium (ops) please kick kestas; he's being a bitch
[07:49] <geogeo> don't reboot, just mount -a
[07:49] <geogeo> sudo mount -a
[07:49] <karljp> pmount!
[07:49] <chaoticoz> works!  You are giving him exactly what he want.. The attention he can't get out in real life.
[07:51] <os|gaz> like 2/3 FPS :P
[07:51] <os|gaz> when i load fuhquake it says it is still using mesa
[07:51] <jamesio> dutch, that's funny.
[07:51] <os|gaz> http://ninjapirates.net/fuhquake116.jpg <--
[07:51] <fep> i need help to configure my mouse, i have a genius with net-scroll, that's is connected on the serial port, not on ps2, somone nows how i solve this?
[07:51] <geogeo> it's okay, i cant see him anymore dude
[07:51] <os|gaz> lie there
[07:51] <os|gaz> any ideas?
[07:51] <Amaranth> osity: run this in a terminal 'glxinfo | grep Direct'
[07:51] <os|gaz> fglrxinfo reports back as it shoul do.
[07:51] <Seveas> fep, have you searched the forums?
[07:51] <Amaranth> err, os|gaz
[07:51] <fep> yep
[07:51] <chaoticoz> _hp_ : is there a good mp3 player coming with ubuntu=
[07:51] <gazzie> :)
[07:51] <chaoticoz> ?*
[07:51] <xilch|w> bunch of crybabies
[07:51] <gazzie> nothing came up Amaranth
[07:52] <fep> there's was just help of other kinds of mouss
[07:52] <geogeo> so, nobody knows how to install a printer which isn't in cupsd ?
[07:52] <geogeo> I'll have to spend time on it !
[07:52] <kestas> trollage xilch|w
[07:52] <tritium> Amaranth, thanks...
[07:52] <kestas> trollage
[07:52] <_hp_> chaoticoz, check out the Music Player in Apps > sound and video, much like itunes... you can also try xmms
[07:52] <Seveas> fep, so you must have found: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3839.html
[07:52] <Amaranth> gazzie: sorry, it's a small d: 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[07:52] <zxc> how do you change the program which default opens say opens .mp3?
[07:52] <Seveas> fep, just replace xserver-xfree86 with xserver-xorrg
[07:52] <Fackamato> Can anyone help me with NFS?
[07:52] <Seveas> fep, just replace xserver-xfree86 with xserver-xorg
[07:53] <kestas> much like itunes except it thinks every mp3 with a slightly different idv2 tag is a different album
[07:53] <Seveas> zxc, system -> preferences -> preferred applications
[07:53] <fep> hmm, i was tryng in the hoarin forum ;)
[07:53] <Fackamato> I've set up hosts.allow and exports, and nfs-kernel-serevr, modules are loaded, I can telnet to port 139, but the other computer gets "access denied" when trying to mount :/
[07:53] <chaoticoz> thx again _hp_ :)
[07:53] <fep> tnk u :))
[07:53] <karljp> anyone know how to give a fat32 volume a volume name?
[07:53] <Seveas> yw
[07:53] <gazzie> direct rendering: Yes
[07:53] <kestas> 139 is SMB Fackamato
[07:53] <karljp> so it doesn't just pop up as"200gig media" and be mounted as /media/usbdisk?
[07:53] <Amaranth> gazzie: hrm, no idea then
[07:53] <kestas> boot up into Windows karljp
[07:53] <gazzie> problem seems to be that fuhquake is using mesa instead of fglrx.. if that makes sense to you
[07:53] <kestas> its much easier from there
[07:53] <chaoticoz> _hp_ may i query you?
[07:53] <gazzie> not sure i've got the terminology
[07:54] <chaoticoz> so much chat in here, hard to see what you write :)
[07:54] <jeroen_> chaoticoz, _hp_ I suggest beep-media-player. it's xmms but better :p
[07:54] <chaoticoz> :o
[07:54] <Amaranth> tritium: I'll let you decide on this one, I'm still new. :)
[07:54] <karljp> thanks for the tip kestas! that sounds like exactly what I was looking for
[07:54] <geogeo> beep doesn't work on my computer
[07:54] <geogeo> it's strange..!
[07:54] <_hp_> i'm pretty content with rythmbox
[07:54] <kestas> Im here to serve karljp ;)
[07:54] <karljp> geo: did you change beep to output esd?
[07:54] <geogeo> yeah
[07:54] <karljp> it tries alsa by default and will freeze
[07:54] <_hp_> only thing that bothers me is that i can't send it to the tray, like gaim
[07:54] <karljp> hmm, oh well then :)
[07:55] <geogeo> ajaj
[07:55] <TeamMCC> anyone here used freenet ?
[07:55] <Amaranth> chaoticoz: That's why we put the name of who we're talking to in front of our messages. Makes it easier to follow.
[07:55] <geogeo> and anybody knows a good player like rythmbox ?
[07:55] <geogeo> (another)
[07:55] <chaoticoz> :o
[07:55] <geogeo> some itunes like
[07:55] <jeroen_> _hp_, i like muine, it's great and it goes on the tray
[07:55] <kestas> itunes
[07:55] <kestas> oh wait thats not on linux
[07:55] <Fackamato> kestas: doh
[07:55] <kestas> damn
[07:55] <jeroen_> _hp_, it also displays the covers of albums
[07:55] <Amaranth> kestas: I'm working on that.
[07:55] <_hp_> jeroen_, itunes-like interface?
[07:56] <geogeo> yeah
[07:56] <Amaranth> _hp_: Not even close to iTunes-like
[07:56] <geogeo> oh
[07:56] <geogeo> sorry.
[07:56] <kestas> well I guess he could use winamp 5
[07:56] <jeroen_> _hp_, never used itunes, so I don't know
[07:56] <kestas> oh wait no, thats not on linux either
[07:56] <Amaranth> _hp_: It's much better.
[07:56] <kestas> damn
[07:56] <JairunCaloth> heh, I was just about to look and see if there was a winamp port for linux... :(
[07:57] <Seveas> JairunCaloth, there is
[07:57] <kestas> hahahah
[07:57] <karljp> xmms/beep are pretty similar
[07:57] <Amaranth> JairunCaloth: Winamp 3 worked on Linux.
[07:57] <Seveas> it's called beep-media-player
[07:57] <sig> mpxp rocks
[07:57] <sig> heh
[07:57] <jeroen_> _hp_, http://muine.gooeylinux.org/muine.png
[07:57] <kestas> is there a windows port for linux?
[07:57] <JairunCaloth> winamp 3 is good
[07:57] <sig> mxpx I mean
[07:57] <JairunCaloth> do the plugins work?
[07:57] <jeroen_> JairunCaloth, yes
[07:57] <Amaranth> kestas: Yeah, it's called PieceOfShit 0.0.1
[07:57] <_hp_> i'll give it a shot
[07:57] <jeroen_> JairunCaloth, no, not sure; skins work
[07:57] <kestas> with a mere 3 hours of configuration you bet!
[07:58] <kestas> I bet it is Amaranth
[07:58] <kestas> and I bet it's GPL
[07:58] <Amaranth> If anyone else thinks he is getting out of hand ping me and I'll silence him.
[07:58] <JairunCaloth> jeroen: so plugins may not, but skins work
[07:58] <_hp_> i thought he was kicked out
[07:58] <jeroen_> JairunCaloth, I don't know about plugins, but skins work
[07:58] <kestas> I bet its called PINAPOS (PINAPOS Is Not A Piece Of Shit)
[07:59] <Amaranth> _hp_: I never kick, I just +q (so they can't talk)
[07:59] <jeroen_> JairunCaloth, you could check the XMMS and/or the beep-media-player website
[07:59] <karljp> and it has a cuty pineapple logo
[07:59] <kestas> and I bet the developers thought the recursive acronym was very clever
[07:59] <jeroen_> Amaranth, that's more annoying than kick :p
[07:59] <GNAM> our PIL is 0.5% down
[07:59] <_hp_> were i an op he would be glined from the planet earth (bash.org quote)
[07:59] <Seveas> Amaranth, by all means, please silence him...
[07:59] <Xanadu> hey peeps
[08:00] <jeroen_> hi
[08:00] <Xanadu> whats happening?
[08:00] <Dutch> Amaranth.. Kick his butt back to kindergarten please..
[08:00] <jamesio> amar, I second the notion.
[08:00] <jeroen_> Xanadu, we're requesting "kick kestas"
[08:00] <jeroen_> Xanadu, it's a fun game, you should join ;)
[08:00] <Xanadu> are any of the sysops awake?
[08:00] <jeroen_> Xanadu, yes
[08:00] <tritium> everyone is capable of /ignoring him
[08:00] <sig> I really don't see what he has done wrong?
[08:00] <sig> oh well
[08:00] <sig> tritium: exactly
[08:01] <Xanadu> well there he goes
[08:01] <Xanadu> and here he comes
[08:01] <Amaranth> And there he is.
[08:01] <Amaranth> Just ignore him.
[08:01] <_hp_> hm.... muine doesn't add songs
[08:01] <jeroen_> what's a Tuborg?
[08:01] <JairunCaloth> can winamp skins be made to on XMMS?
[08:01] <Xanadu> can't u kline him>
[08:01] <jeroen_> _hp_, no?
[08:01] <jeroen_> JairunCaloth, yeah
[08:01] <sig> jeroen_: sounds weird
[08:01] <AirWays> Hmm, so how I can update my Warty to Hoary?
[08:01] <JairunCaloth> sweet
[08:01] <_hp_> i import a folder and nothing shows up
[08:02] <sig> jeroen_: looks like electronic greeting cards
[08:02] <jeroen_> AirWays, wiki
[08:02] <sig> http://www.tuborg.com/green.html
[08:02] <AirWays> Wiki?
[08:02] <jeroen_> sig, what?
[08:02] <Xanadu> AirWays: through synaptic change all the warties to hoaries
[08:02] <JairunCaloth> what's the difference between a .gz and a .bz2
[08:02] <Xanadu> AirWays then update
[08:02] <_hp_> oh, i see, how do i get it show all of the songs in the playlist?
[08:02] <jeroen_> JairunCaloth, both are compressed
[08:02] <Seveas> AirWays: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:02] <Xanadu> AirWays then apply
[08:02] <jeroen_> _hp_, "add song"?
[08:02] <sig> jeroen_: cool ass site actually
[08:02] <Amaranth> JairunCaloth: different compression techniques
[08:02] <kestas> seriously: in the time I have been here about 30% of the questions have been about how to get Windows like behaviour in linux
[08:02] <kestas> does that not bother anyone?
[08:03] <AirWays> Okay...
[08:03] <kestas> does that not seem silly?
[08:03] <Seveas> kestas, you bother more people...
[08:03] <JairunCaloth> jeroen: different programs then?
[08:03] <AirWays> Is that dangerious?
[08:03] <AirWays> Is there some danger to my files can be destory?
[08:03] <Xanadu> AirWays no it's pretty safe
[08:03] <AirWays> Okay
[08:03] <AirWays> I'll try that...
[08:03] <Xanadu> AirWays use Seveas' line
[08:03] <AirWays> I hope that is safe :)
[08:03] <jeroen_> JairunCaloth, they've been compressed with another method
[08:03] <karljp> there's a reason people want windows like behaviour
[08:03] <JairunCaloth> I've got my windows drive mounted so I can access them
[08:03] <AirWays> Jes
[08:03] <Seveas> kestas, people are used to some behaviour, what's bad for wanting to keep that behaviour?
[08:03] <AirWays> But
[08:03] <karljp> that's a strong point of windows
[08:03] <karljp> that's why it sells
[08:03] <AirWays> Should I close my psyBNC:s +
[08:03] <_hp_> jeroen_, it's working, how do i get it to show all of the songs in the playlist?
[08:03] <FlyingSquirrel32> How do I install a theme into gnome?
[08:04] <Xanadu> Airways your what???
[08:04] <jeroen_> _hp_, what do you mean?
[08:04] <Dutch> BBL
[08:04] <jeroen_> http://muine.gooeylinux.org/muine.png
[08:04] <AirWays> My psyBNCs ?
[08:04] <AirWays> I have psyBNC in my server
[08:04] <Amaranth> _hp_: Queue up all the songs/albums
[08:04] <AirWays> Should I stop it?
[08:04] <jeroen_> _hp_, does it look like that? http://muine.gooeylinux.org/muine.png
[08:04] <Xanadu> Airways dunno what it does but probably not
[08:04] <flevour> hi all
[08:04] <_hp_> jeroen_, yeah, i got it.. just select all albums
[08:04] <karljp> that's an odd reason to like something
[08:04] <karljp> though there are definitely aspects of mediaplayer that are horrible
[08:04] <JairunCaloth> how can I find out what packages are installed on my system?
[08:05] <flevour> does anyone have problems with printing lately?
[08:05] <AirWays> So I should close?
[08:05] <_hp_> FlyingSquirrel32, drag and drop into theme manager
[08:05] <ubuntu> just try out ubuntu it is wondefull
[08:05] <jeroen_> JairunCaloth, run synaptic
[08:05] <Seveas> JairunCaloth, dpkg -l
[08:05] <tritium> JairunCaloth, dpkg -l
[08:05] <flevour> gnome-cups-manager sounds a little buggy
[08:05] <Amaranth> ubuntu: Glad you like it.
[08:05] <Xanadu> Airways no you can keep using ubuntu while it downloads the upgrades - it'll take quite a while
[08:05] <Seveas> or in synaptic: filter on installed packages JairunCaloth
[08:05] <jeroen_> JairunCaloth, synaptic -> status -> installed
[08:05] <ubuntu> yes it is wonderfull just insert the cd
[08:05] <karljp> gah, cp -a for 73k files is taking forrrrr evvvvvverrrr
[08:05] <darkaudit> karljp: Media Player will mess about with the ID3 tags by default...
[08:05] <karljp> well, I only use media player for playing videos
[08:05] <karljp> and it does that mroe relibaly than anything I've found on linux yet
[08:05] <ubuntu> and it starts itself and eveithinh is working
[08:05] <flevour> i configure my printer through it, but it keeps sending gibberish to printer
[08:05] <karljp> I used winamp for mp3s
[08:06] <_hp_> i think i'll completely remove windows xp as soon as i get photoshop installed on linux
[08:06] <kestas> not likely
[08:06] <karljp> hehe, good luck
[08:06] <karljp> which photoshop?
[08:06] <Seveas> _hp_, have you tried the gimp?
[08:06] <Fator_Dee> _hp_: gimp is not enough?
[08:06] <FlyingSquirrel32> _hp_, but what I downloaded is a tar.gz? I drag the entire file?
[08:06] <karljp> gimp is not enoguh
[08:06] <Xanadu> what is PsyBNC anywayz?
[08:06] <darkaudit> _hp_: GIMP :)
[08:06] <ubuntu> microsoft finally get more players
[08:06] <karljp> no adjustment layers :(
[08:06] <karljp> gimp is "one day" software.
[08:06] <Seveas> Xanadu, an IRC bouncer, sort of IRC proxy
[08:06] <_hp_> i've tried gimp, it doesn't play good with the psds i have so far, plus i like photoshop
[08:06] <Xanadu> oooh
[08:06] <tritium> _hp_, use winetools, and you can install photoshop
[08:07] <Fator_Dee> karljp: explain "one day" software?
[08:07] <Xanadu> guess he closed it then since he's dissapeared
[08:07] <karljp> tritium: can you get photoshop cs installed?
[08:07] <_hp_> tritium, i bought crossover... simpler
[08:07] <karljp> I had heard you could get 7, but not cs.
[08:07] <tritium> _hp_, okay
[08:07] <darkaudit> xine + w32codecs plays 99.9% of videos I have... and mplayer takes care of the rest...
[08:07] <_hp_> cs works nice, cs2 doesn't
[08:07] <tritium> karljp, I have not tried.  I don't own any commercial software.
[08:07] <karljp> fator: it will be excellent one day, but not today
[08:07] <Xanadu> you guys know that there's a photoshop frontend for Gimp?
[08:07] <karljp> xanadu: that's just a look/feel
[08:07] <_hp_> Xanadu, google gimpshop
[08:07] <Fator_Dee> karl: ok
[08:07] <karljp> it doesn't actually give you the missing things
[08:08] <jeroen_> Xanadu, what front-end?
[08:08] <karljp> fator: it is heading in good directions though :)
[08:08] <Xanadu> like they said gimpshop
[08:08] <karljp> like linux in general
[08:08] <jeroen_> Xanadu, yeah, didn't see that
[08:08] <FlyingSquirrel32> _hp_, ok and uninstall??
[08:08] <Xanadu> basically same menu structure as photoshop so u can find yer way around easily jeroen_
[08:08] <karljp> it's slowly starting to be borderline usable as a desktop os.
[08:08] <Fator_Dee> karljp: well, I know what kind of software it is, 'cause I have used it for a long time :-p
[08:08] <tritium> Seveas, are you using a bouncer or proxy?
[08:08] <_hp_> FlyingSquirrel32, remove theme?
[08:08] <kestas> who cares that its no good? its heading in good directions
[08:08] <Fator_Dee> karljp: and I've been totally pleased with it
[08:08] <Seveas> tritium, no
[08:08] <darkaudit> Xine has a skim feature... I haven't seen any other player that does that, in linux or XP
[08:09] <zxc> Seveas, that only gives you the option for preferred apps for mail and internet :/
[08:09] <FlyingSquirrel32> _hp_, yes, how do I remove a theme?
[08:09] <tritium> Seveas, ah, I've got irssi-proxy running on my home server
[08:09] <Seveas> zxc, ok, them try right click on the mp3 file
[08:09] <Seveas> tritium, i don't have a home server :)
[08:09] <kestas> shouldnt you be using ogg?
[08:09] <tritium> Seveas, oh, okay :)
[08:09] <Seveas> but with a bit of luck i'll have a home clusteer in a few weeks :)
[08:09] <kestas> mp3 is for luz0rs
[08:10] <tritium> nice, Seveas
[08:10] <karljp> mp3 is for users
[08:10] <_hp_> what's the appled for the systray where gaim and muine reside?
[08:10] <Fator_Dee> _hp_: system tray?
[08:10] <Seveas> notification area _hp_
[08:10] <kestas> mp3 is commercially owned
[08:11] <darkaudit> try to find a COTS portable player that supports ogg
[08:11] <nash> how can i install xorg devellopment headers ?
[08:11] <_hp_> arrr. i just i want to move the system tray to the bottom right instead of top right
[08:11] <Seveas> nash xlibs-dev?
[08:11] <jeroen_> _hp_, just remove it and add it on the bottom?
[08:11] <jeroen_> _hp_, then move it around to the left
[08:12] <Seveas> jeroen_, not needed
[08:12] <Seveas> just unlock it
[08:12] <nash> Seveas, i don't see xlibs dev
[08:12] <_hp_> weird, it works
[08:12] <Seveas> and then move it :)
[08:12] <Seveas> nash what do you need to cimpile?
[08:12] <Seveas> compile even...
[08:12] <nash> yeahconsole
[08:12] <zxc> Seveas, hmm, anyway to get it so when I double click on the icon it opens my preferred music app?
[08:12] <karljp> anyone know how to get the desktop contents flyout?
[08:13] <nash> any ideas ?
[08:13] <jeroen_> zxc, right mouse button -> open with.. -> select your favorite app -> "always open with"
[08:13] <tritium> flyout?
[08:13] <Xanadu> nash i don't see it either - guess you'll have do download
[08:14] <zxc> jereon_, where's the "Always open with" bit?
[08:14] <Seveas> nash, apt-get install xlibs-dev
[08:14] <karljp> on xp you can click on a button in the start bar and get a flyout menu (popout) with all the items on your desktop
[08:14] <jeroen_> zxc, sorry
[08:14] <jeroen_> zxc, you need "properties"
[08:14] <Seveas> it's there, even in main
[08:14] <jeroen_> zxc, then "open with" and select it
[08:14] <BrianB04> Hey, I got a bit of a problem with Ubuntu. Connecting to anything on the internet is extremely slow, seems to be the DNS lookup takes forever, what's going on?
[08:14] <zxc> ah k cool thanks jeroen_
[08:15] <nash> However the following packages replace it:
[08:15] <nash>   xutils
[08:15] <nash> E: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate
[08:15] <Seveas> BrianB04, maybe a hickup at your provider?
[08:15] <BrianB04> Seveas: Wasn't doing that in Windows...
[08:15] <jeroen_> BrianB04, have you tried typing in IP adresses in your browser (to check it's DNS's fault)
[08:15] <Seveas> nash, hmm?? it's in hoary main...
[08:15] <kestas> :)
[08:15] <Xanadu> nash i got libx11-dev - maybe that's what u're looking for?
[08:15] <nash> apt-get install xutils
[08:15] <nash> xutils is already the newest version.
[08:15] <kestas> BrianB04, why not use windows then?
[08:15] <kestas> wouldnt it be easier?
[08:16] <_hp_> someone -q kestas
[08:16] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache show xlibs-dev
[08:16] <Seveas> Filename: pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs-dev_6.8.2-10_all.deb
[08:16] <jeroen_> kestas, I wonder seriously what you're doing in #ubuntu if you're just going to say "Windows is better"
[08:16] <BrianB04> Yea, it seems to be DNS lookups are taking awhile in Linux...hrmmm...
[08:16] <Fator_Dee> he wants to grow to a big troll
[08:16] <kestas> probably a microsoft conspiracy right guys?
[08:16] <FlyingSquirrel32> _hp_, Okay, I assume I can delete the .tar file I downloaded once it installs, right?
[08:16] <jeroen_> kestas, I won't join #porsche and then go say everytime someone asks something "just use a Jaguar!"
[08:17] <_hp_> windows is better for some things, like games. for everything else ubuntu is better
[08:17] <_hp_> FlyingSquirrel32, yeah
[08:17] <darkaudit> Amaranth: k+b time I think...
[08:17] <karljp> he's not doing very well
[08:17] <thenuke> kestas: you unbelievable stupid
[08:17] <kestas> games, and printing, and office work
[08:17] <Amaranth> kestas: Please stop.
[08:17] <nash> Xanadu, could you send me your source.list ?
[08:17] <kestas> okay okay
[08:17] <tritium> kestas, why are you running xchat on linux anyway, if Windows is so much better?
[08:17] <karljp> to effectively troll he should be picking on a sly aspect of ubuntu's design
[08:17] <karljp> and questioning why it was done that way
[08:18] <kestas> tritium, you can get all linux apps on windows :)
[08:18] <kestas> thats the best part :)
[08:18] <kestas> everything on linux you can get on windows :)
[08:18] <tritium> kestas, you're running linux kernel 2.6.10-5
[08:18] <thenuke> yeah, like linux kernel and everything
[08:18] <Fator_Dee> busted!
[08:18] <kestas> or did I alter the response?
[08:18] <thenuke> I would vote for kick :P If you do /last kestas
[08:18] <kestas> ;)
[08:18] <thenuke> you will see why we do not need this guy in here
[08:18] <jeroen_> I think kestas is funny when he's being stupid
[08:19] <karljp> he's really not getting the rants in response that any good troll should be chasing
[08:19] <darkaudit> karljp: like what gtk does to stuff like file roller... selecting a folder in the right hand list by default and forcing the user to back up a level from where he should be in order to extract a file to where he/she *really* wants it to go...
[08:19] <dabaSlon_slp>  /nick dabaSlon
[08:19] <dabaSlon_slp> heh
[08:19] <karljp> dark: precisely :)
[08:20] <dabaSlon> kestas, go workn on your antispyware project...
[08:20] <Scorpinf> can i write to ntfs partitions that i mount or should i let it be read only. ??
[08:20] <darkaudit> I get the same thing in sound-juicer... if I want to use /usr/local/music, I have to select /usr/local, and then highlight music in the right hand list
[08:20] <kestas> ?
[08:20] <dabaSlon> sorry, wrong nick completion
[08:20] <BrianB04> I wonder if it may have something to do with Comcast's rather...horrid DNS servers at the moment...should change the DNS servers to something else.
[08:21] <karljp> dialogs just generalyl suck
[08:21] <tritium> kestas, if you were an actual threat, I'd have dealt with you.  As it is, you're just amusing.
[08:21] <dabaSlon> BrianB04: I work tech syupport for comcast...
[08:21] <kestas> dealt with me how?
[08:21] <jeroen_> banning you, duh, kestas
[08:21] <darkaudit> bug in gtk has been fixed upstream, but according to bugzilla, it's not going to be fixed in Hoary. Now *this* is something that seiously disappoints me about Ubuntu... not fixing seious usability bugs
[08:21] <Amaranth> /mode #ubuntu +q<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:21] <Amaranth> Like that.
[08:21] <darkaudit> s/serious/seious
[08:21] <BrianB04> dabaSlon, Been having issues lately with Comcast's DNS servers...
[08:21] <karljp> dark: yeah
[08:21] <Seveas> Scorpinf, you could not even write if you mount it RW :)
[08:21] <karljp> it's been my big issue so far too
[08:22] <karljp> I love wht they've done with it
[08:22] <dabaSlon> brian, by what sign can you tell that dns lookups are taing longer?
[08:22] <karljp> but hoary is only good for another few weeks
[08:22] <kestas> Im just offering my support tritium
[08:22] <karljp> then it just falls out of date
[08:22] <dabaSlon> By not hving cleared out your cache recently?;)
[08:22] <jeroen_> kestas, hack me! ip: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:22] <BrianB04> Well, when I type like google.com, it takes roughly 30 seconds to start loading, with plain IP, it's instant.
[08:22] <karljp> and no new updates til they freeze breezy
[08:22] <dabaSlon> BrianB04: there were 3 days in which for abnout 3-4 hours the dns servers were not working,.
[08:22] <karljp> the bright side is that instead of having woody, and then just perpertually updating
[08:22] <jeroen_> darkaudit, I agree with you
[08:22] <darkaudit> karljp: but that's probably my only major issue with Ubuntu specifically :)
[08:22] <dabaSlon> Thatrs it about dns servers.
[08:22] <karljp> you know that you can start fresh with a new release every six months
[08:23] <Amaranth> There is no way kestas is running Windows, he isn't lit up like a christmas tree port wise. :)
[08:23] <dabaSlon> Usually, ppl hear DNS server issue, and then they think anything that they do wrong(routers, cache, not power cycling,.,,) has to do with DNS, since that is the new word they learned....
[08:23] <karljp> integration and consistency leave a lot to be desired, but compared to how things were a few years ago, or even 1 year ago, it's greatly improved
[08:23] <darkaudit> karljp: I'll probably go over to Breezy... but not as early as I did w/ Hoary
[08:23] <karljp> so I'll put up with it :)
[08:23] <karljp> yeah, breezy is going to need to be done, just not yet
[08:23] <dabaSlon> do you have a router, BrianB04?
[08:23] <karljp> I want wx 2.6, and grass 6
[08:23] <BrianB04> dabaSlon: Yep, of course:)
[08:23] <Xanadu> karljp guys what's the bug?
[08:23] <xilch|w> Amaranth: when I run windows you don't see any ports open
[08:24] <kestas> yeah Amaranth wth are you on about?
[08:24] <darkaudit> they don't even have a testing CD out for Breezy yet, so I'm content to wait
[08:24] <Amaranth> xilch|w: But you're an educated user. :)
[08:24] <dabaSlon> well, remove that and see, taht is the only way you can tell, and if it is slow after you remove router, power cycle, clear out cahce, you can be more certain that it is something to do with the service,..
[08:24] <Amaranth> kestas: Just messing with you.
[08:24] <dr_willis> Hurry Up and wait! :P
[08:24] <karljp> xanadu: I'm not sure which one in particular dark is talking about, but there are lots of dialogs that behave in inconsistent manners
[08:24] <karljp> and it's annoying
[08:24] <darkaudit> karljp: gimme a sec and I'll get the bugzilla #
[08:25] <karljp> (I don't want to know, really)
[08:25] <hawke_> darkaudit: I'm kinda curious.
[08:25] <dabaSlon> BrianB04: but a DNS issue, somewhat unlikely.
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> whoh.... this irc client will fix 'teh' into the
[08:25] <darkaudit> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6615
[08:25] <hawke_> JairunCaloth: annoying, isn't it?
[08:25] <dabaSlon> But possibkle, I can chat into work to ask if you want...
[08:25] <karljp> jairun: welcome to xchat :)
[08:25] <Xanadu> lol
[08:25] <BrianB04> dabaSlon, I'm gonna test something...see what happens.
[08:25] <Q_Continuum> Anyone know offhand if a Netgear FA120 USB 2.0 Ethernet Adaptor will work natively under Ubuntu Hoary 5.04?
[08:25] <foxiness> can any one point me how-to active this command on startup "hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd" , am try put it on /etc/hdparm.conf like this "command_line{hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd}" is there something im missed here ?
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> but sometimes I want to say 'teh' without it changing ti
[08:26] <darkaudit> I like Xchat, but I'm really sold on irssi
[08:26] <dabaSlon> so, what you can test is cache, power cycle, and remove router, thats abotu it...firewall as well.
[08:26] <woodman> hey i'm having dependencies problems using apt-get or synaptic, anybody up on that?
[08:26] <hawke_> JairunCaloth: settings, advanced, auto replace
[08:26] <Seveas> woodman, libpostproc0?
[08:26] <Amaranth> woodman: Are you using breezy or any non-official repositories on hoary?
[08:27] <mainer> darkaudit: try jirssi(java-irssi),its nice
[08:27] <woodman> i'm trying to work out probs with evolution and it's exchange connector
[08:27] <dabaSlon> Hi, everyone!
[08:27] <zxc> hmm, is there anyway to refresh a frozen desktop (desktop as in where the icons are)
[08:27] <Q_Continuum> well, I'm gonna find out here in a second, right after I reinstall grub...letcha know in a bit..
[08:27] <woodman> and install evolution-dev but get unresolved dependencies results, won't install
[08:28] <Seveas> woodman, can you paste the complete error on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[08:28] <woodman> yup gimme a sec
[08:28] <foxiness> zxc, ctrl+R
[08:28] <dabaSlon> BrianB04: they say there is no dns outage.
[08:28] <dabaSlon> to their knowledge at this time.
[08:28] <zxc> Foxiness, that does nothing :/...it still remains brown will no icons and no interaction x_x
[08:29] <tritium> Xanadu, would you sing a line or two?  ;)
[08:29] <zxc> I've tried Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, that doesn't do anything either
[08:29] <karljp> http://beeroclock.net/~karl/file_browser-copyfailure-dialog.png  << that's my sort of problems
[08:29] <Xanadu> go for it tritium
[08:29] <mainer> zxc: ctrl+alt+backspace will restartx
[08:29] <foxiness> zxc, if this notwrok with u ctrl+alt+backspasce but not forget to save ur work first than login again
[08:29] <tritium> Xanadu, heh
[08:29] <karljp> why did it fail, what was the actual file, and why can't I resize that window?
[08:29] <woodman> it's up there
[08:30] <dabaSlon> zxc, what exactly does it look like?
[08:30] <Xanadu> tritium actually the nick comes from the poem, but it always makes people think of something else
[08:30] <dabaSlon> zxc, and what made it look like that?
[08:30] <foxiness> zxc, top than killall something
[08:30] <tritium> Xanadu, ah, okay - hope it doesn't bug you
[08:30] <dabaSlon> which, xanadu? there is a castle, isbnt there?
[08:30] <Xanadu> tritium nah not at all
[08:30] <woodman> trying to apt-get back to the failed libraries just erros on different ones
[08:30] <Xanadu> dabaSlon: Kubla Khan by Samuel Taylor Coleridge
[08:30] <foxiness> can any one point me how-to active this command on startup "hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd" , am try put it on /etc/hdparm.conf like this "command_line{hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd}" is there something im missed here ?
[08:31] <kevin06> I am trying to use ImgSeek, but when trying to launch it from terminal I get an error about ImgSeekLib: No Module named ImgSeekLib installed. Googling for it didn't do much, and there is nothing on ImgSeek's site about this.
[08:31] <tritium> http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/stc/Coleridge/poems/Kubla_Khan.html
[08:31] <dabaSlon> wow. nice...havent heard anyone know anything about poetry since I moved to N.A.(dont tell me you dont know what that stands for...)
[08:31] <Xanadu> it was actually a real place
[08:31] <Xanadu> end of Marco Polo's journeys
[08:31] <zxc> dabaslon, it happens quite a lot. I right clicked on an icon, and it went all freezy and unresponsive. then it went pure white (my bg colour). Now it is completely unresponsive, gnome is fine just the desktop. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't fix it either it just changed it from white ---> Brown (the desktop colour)
[08:32] <Seveas> woodman, what happens of you try to install one of thse packages that say 'is not going to be installed'
[08:32] <Seveas> ?
[08:32] <dabaSlon> s, you can do otehr stuf, justs your desktop is frozen, hey?
[08:32] <Xanadu> dabaSlon what does NA stand for?
[08:32] <zxc> dabaslon, yes
[08:32] <dabaSlon> nortyh america.
[08:32] <dabaSlon> zxc thats weird.
[08:32] <Xanadu> aaah
[08:32] <dabaSlon> thats why I said, dont ask me that..
[08:32] <woodman> same kind of error only with a different library, i've gone 5-6 steps into this and they keep on coming
[08:32] <dabaSlon> :)
[08:33] <Xanadu> dabaSlon where did u move from?
[08:33] <zxc> dabaslon, happened more then once as well :/
[08:33] <woodman> i have my /etc/apt/souorces.list if it helps
[08:33] <dabaSlon> zxc, I had iother issues, not that one in particular.
[08:33] <dabaSlon> Croatia. In Europe, Ex Yugolsavia.
[08:33] <Q_Continuum> Mmmkay...booting in rescue mode (need to reinstall grub) I don't know which partition I should mount as the root file system.../dev/discs/disco/part{1,2,3,4}
[08:33] <zxc> guess restart is all i can do :/
[08:33] <Fator_Dee> zxc: your desktop is unresponsive?
[08:33] <Xanadu> aah a Croatian
[08:33] <zxc> Fator_Dee, yes
[08:33] <dabaSlon> zxc, have you logged out back in?
[08:33] <zxc> dabaslon, yes
[08:34] <Fator_Dee> zxc: execute nautilus
[08:34] <foxiness> zxc, i think this not like am understand on first , did change something on your home dir like .folder ?
[08:34] <dabaSlon> my cpu is at 100% for some reason, for a while now...
[08:34] <Seveas> woodman, it's odd since on here it installs without a charm, try aptitude -v install evolution-dev
[08:34] <Xanadu> well i'm not surprised that you hear less poetry in US than Yugoslavia dabaSlon
[08:34] <Fator_Dee> zxc: or look from system monitor if it's there and kill it!
[08:34] <zxc> Fator_Dee, using the run command in gnome nothing appears to happen
[08:34] <woodman> tried that already, same results
[08:34] <dabaSlon> yeah, and btw, the trash apple it taking 20% of it, constantly, I guess its time for me to log out back in as well.
[08:34] <Seveas> no more information about why it will not install?
[08:34] <Badness45> which dvd player us good
[08:34] <BrianB04> That solved it: DNS issue.
[08:34] <gazzie> i downloaded the ati fglrx control panel, how do i run it?
[08:35] <Badness45> is giood
[08:35] <zxc> Fator_Dee- System monitor? How do I get that?
[08:35] <dabaSlon> Xanadu: I am in canada. I guess I hang out with the wrong crowd..
[08:35] <Fator_Dee> zxc: a sec
[08:35] <gazzie> installed via synaptic
[08:35] <Badness45> mplayer doesn't work
[08:35] <dabaSlon> BrianB04: they know of a DNS issue?
[08:35] <Fator_Dee> zxc: system -> system monitor
[08:35] <Xanadu> dabaSlon I thought canadians were all intelligent - obviously good marketing
[08:35] <mainer> probly a cron job running,although most default run-times are like 3-4a.m.,local time
[08:35] <jeroen_> gazzie: fireglcontrol
[08:35] <darkaudit> Badness45: I use Xine... but you have to have libdvdcss installed
[08:35] <gazzie> badness try "totem dvd://" in terminal
[08:35] <BrianB04> dabaSlon, I just changed my DNS servers over to what I was using during all the DNS issues back in April, instant load...
[08:35] <Xanadu> Badness45 I use VLC
[08:35] <gazzie> thanks jeroen_
[08:36] <Badness45> where do i get the libdvdcss from
[08:36] <dabaSlon> hehe, cool, I wish I could explain how that can be completely unrelated to the COmcast server, but I dont have time,...
[08:36] <zxc> Fator_Dee- Not under System -> Monitor :/
[08:36] <dabaSlon> Good job.
[08:36] <Xanadu> Badness: apt-get install libdvdcss
[08:36] <Fator_Dee> zxc: umm, it *should* be there
[08:36] <dabaSlon> Xanadu: well, for one, you should see the misery the native/aboriginal ppl live in...
[08:36] <woodman> i'm stumped Seveas, getting a clean evolution install is the only thing holding me back from dumping winblows
[08:37] <Fator_Dee> zxc: well then, do a ps -A | grep nautilus
[08:37] <kestas> isnt aboriginal reserved for australian natives?
[08:37] <dabaSlon> then you should see my apartment..lol...and then you will know that there is a lot of vermin north of you,....
[08:37] <dabaSlon> vermin
[08:37] <mainer> or a rootkit,maybe:)
[08:37] <dabaSlon> kestas, google that.
[08:37] <Seveas> woodman evolution-dev is not needed to install evolution...
[08:37] <Xanadu> kestas no it's not
[08:37] <kestas> k
[08:37] <bluszcz> hello folks
[08:37] <zxc> perminder@ubuntu:~$ ps -A | grep nautilus
[08:37] <zxc>  8387 ?        00:00:17 nautilus
[08:37] <zxc> 14013 ?        00:00:00 nautilus
[08:37] <zxc> 14309 ?        00:00:00 nautilus
[08:37] <zxc> 14379 ?        00:00:00 nautilus
[08:37] <zxc> 14459 ?        00:00:00 nautilus
[08:37] <zxc> 14463 ?        00:00:00 nautilus
[08:37] <dabaSlon> Its like a race/
[08:37] <Badness45> in terminal it says don't n how to handle
[08:37] <Fator_Dee> zxc: no paste :-p
[08:37] <Xanadu> dabaSlon I'm not in the US (thank god)
[08:37] <Fator_Dee> zxc: kill those numbers
[08:38] <foxiness> can i highlight syntax on shall and how ?
[08:38] <jeroen_> hello bluszcz
[08:38] <dabaSlon> right, k, let me read some of these questions.
[08:38] <zxc> How?
[08:38] <Fator_Dee> zxc: kill "number"
[08:38] <Fator_Dee> zxc: you might have to use sudo
[08:38] <foxiness> sorry shell - shall
[08:38] <kestas> killall nautilus
[08:38] <kestas> geez
[08:38] <klaym> hello people! could someone list me some optional desktop environments for Ubuntu that would be very lightweight, and with a nice mouse-2nd-button-menu-navigation thing instead of two panels on the desktop, as there are in Gnome.
[08:38] <foxiness> zxc, killall nautilus
[08:38] <woodman> yup i know, i have it installed but am not able to use the global address list on e2k3 server. found this link https://mams.melcoe.mq.edu.au/zope/mams/pubs/Installation/evolution-exchange
[08:38] <jeroen_> klaym, XFCE
[08:39] <kestas> hahah XFCE is real lightweight
[08:39] <Seveas> klaym, XFCE, ICEwm, fluxbox
[08:39] <woodman> that seems like it makes sense, i'm using hoary and evo 2.2.1
[08:39] <foxiness> klaym, xfce4.2
[08:39] <dabaSlon> zxc, teh desktop is a little weird now...
[08:39] <foxiness> kestas, and nice
[08:39] <mainer> klaym: xfce 4.2.1-2 from http:os-cillation.de   not an ubuntu pkg(be warned),but the most current xfce release
[08:40] <Xanadu> dabaSlon why'd u move to somewhere so sucky?
[08:40] <Q_Continuum> yaaaay
[08:40] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, trekkie?
[08:40] <dabaSlon> mine, for example. every thing got deleted, and my trash bin is working 20% of a P4 2.2....so...
[08:40] <foxiness> im like the way xfce4.2 act like on firefox
[08:40] <Q_Continuum> yeah
[08:40] <zxc> I think it's all killed now, the -ps thingy shows nothing
[08:40] <klaym> ok I'll try XFCE, but I'll play it safe and download an ubuntu supported version from apt
[08:40] <dabaSlon> Xanadu: its pretty ok here, plus personal reasons, of ruin in a country like Croatia at this time.
[08:40] <tritium> Xanadu, not sure what you'd find so bad about living here.
[08:40] <Q_Continuum> the Netgear FA120 USB ethernet adaptor works out-of-the-box with Linux :-)
[08:40] <kestas> !!
[08:41] <karljp> gurhhh the apt-get update gui thing won't let me use it's scroll bars or let me resize it
[08:41] <Xanadu> tritium just going on dabaSlon's opinion - never been as far north in North America as Canada
[08:41] <Fator_Dee> zxc: restart nautilus now
[08:41] <foxiness> Q_Continuum, good to hear
[08:41] <kestas> killall -HUP nautilus
[08:41] <kestas> to restart it
[08:41] <Zambba_> I have a problem with scandinavian characters and ssh/irc.
[08:42] <Seveas> hmm, what would happen if you sent noautilus a SIGSEGV :)
[08:42] <zxc> Fator_Dee- Back to normal thanks ^^. So killall nautilus, restart nautilus everytime it happens?
[08:42] <Xanadu> tritium don't really have an opinion of it - but i do know i wouldn't like to live somewhere so cold
[08:42] <tritium> Xanadu, I mean the US specifically
[08:42] <Fator_Dee> zxc: yes
[08:42] <Q_Continuum> it's bad that i had to figure it out though, means the interal one doesn't work >.< (broken somehow..)
[08:42] <Xanadu> tritium oh i don't really like the States
[08:42] <crimsun> mainer: come again?
[08:42] <jeroen_> Zambba_, you might have more success in #ubuntu-langcode, where langcode is the 2 letter code for scandinavia
[08:42] <foxiness> Q_Continuum, is there like that pc-card "bluetooth" one work out of the box
[08:42] <dabaSlon> well, no its not very bad, but its like not something special, you know, a country...has resources, has work, low unemployment, and yet, over half the ppl live under the poverty line, but, yeah...
[08:42] <Q_Continuum> huh?
[08:42] <Xanadu> tritium I like New York and Seattle but you can keep the rest
[08:42] <Zambba_> jeroen_: Well #ubuntu-fi is dead ;)
[08:42] <Zambba_> almost
[08:42] <tritium> Xanadu, oh, that's too bad
[08:42] <jeroen_> Zambba_, ah, okay
[08:42] <Q_Continuum> I dunno.  I got nothin that's bluetooth.
 where do i get vlc from
[08:43] <Xanadu> Badness45 Synaptic
[08:43] <Zambba> I don't want to use UTF-8.
[08:43] <mainer> crimsun:??
[08:43] <pierro> what's the print network type to use for accessing to a Windows print ?
[08:43] <Amaranth> Badness45: apt-get install vlc
[08:43] <crimsun> mainer: what do you mean by not in Ubuntu?
[08:43] <Badness45> imma try it
[08:43] <Xanadu> tritium where do you live?
[08:43] <Seveas> pierro, SMB
[08:43] <foxiness> time to go c l8r
[08:43] <foxiness> thanks Q_Continuum
[08:43] <tritium> Xanadu, New Mexico
[08:44] <Badness45> i am in Newyork
[08:44] <tritium> Xanadu, temporarily in Indiana
[08:44] <mainer> i said the os-cillation release is most current,because of xfld-desktop,my opinion,if i'm wrong,i stand corrected,n.p.
[08:44] <Xanadu> tritium never been to either so i'll withhold judgement ;)
[08:44] <Xanadu> New York is a very kewl city
[08:44] <crimsun> mainer: the os-cillation release has several bugs that jani and I fixed in Ubuntu Hoary's Xfce packages.
[08:44] <Badness45> yup
[08:45] <Xanadu> but as any New Yorker will tell you, it's not part of the US - it's independent ;P
[08:45] <crimsun> mainer: <IP_ADDRESS>+cvs
[08:45] <karljp> Zambba, you still having problems?
[08:45] <pierro> Seveas, why do i've to chose a driver for the print ? won't it use the windows driver ?
[08:45] <mainer> worked fine for me,but,i stand corrected,i didn't know,maybe you should post it in the topic:)
[08:45] <dabaSlon> well, you can only asy about N.A. that it is a place where everyone is looking omnly after themselves, and that some ppl ill be like, Yeah, its great, and feredom, blah blah, since they have money, but, another half of the ppltion, is under the poverty line, trailer parks, and so on.
[08:45] <karljp> you probably just want to change the settings for your irc client
[08:45] <kestas> sorry pierro you still have to use the driver
[08:45] <Zambba> karljp: Not anymore, I changed Konsole's settings.
[08:45] <Seveas> pierro, not really
[08:45] <kestas> let me save you some time pierro : its not gonna work
[08:45] <crimsun> mainer: it's fairly well-known; the packages are in universe. (xfce4)
[08:45] <Q_Continuum> What's the easiest way to install the OpenOffice.org 2.0 beta?  Do I need to compile from source, or is it in one of the repositories?
[08:45] <karljp> ok, if you've got it how you want it cool
[08:45] <karljp> (but use UTF8!)
[08:46] <Seveas> neither do the windows machines that print via smb pierro, all pc's must have the driver installed
[08:46] <Badness45> they have a new hoary out right i installed it and my graphic card didn't agree with it so i have warty
[08:46] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, it's in universe
[08:46] <Q_Continuum> thanks.
[08:46] <pierro> do the windows machin have smb installed ?
[08:46] <crimsun> Q_Continuum: actually it's in main
[08:46] <kestas> nope
[08:46] <dabaSlon> Q_Continuum: did you hear they started using Java now, which makes it somewhat unsuitable for OSS>
[08:46] <ggeller> My Ubuntu 5.04 install is failing.  It goes through reformatting the hard drive, etc. then hangs when it gets to a screen that says "Installing the Ubuntu base system 6% Retrieving bsdutils..."
[08:46] <Badness45> can i use the live cd to see if it works now
[08:46] <kestas> you have to install it
[08:46] <mainer> i don't trust universe since the <IP_ADDRESS>(?) kernel fiasco,just me
[08:46] <Xanadu> Badness45 which card?
[08:46] <Badness45> nvida
[08:46] <Badness45> laptop
[08:46] <Q_Continuum> They've been using Java forever..
[08:46] <crimsun> mainer: what fiasco?
[08:46] <Badness45> and my wireless too
[08:46] <karljp> badness: I couldn't get my wireless to work on the livecd
[08:47] <karljp> you were on a live cd?
[08:47] <kevin06> Anyone know how to fix the error ImgSeekLib :No module called ImgSeekLib installed? How do I install it?
[08:47] <Xanadu> Badness45 dump the repository drivers and install from source
[08:47] <karljp> ndis just outright failed and often hung on the livecd
[08:47] <mainer> i used tthem and they locked up all the time,it's a known bug according to ubuntu
[08:47] <Badness45> nh
[08:47] <Badness45> nah
[08:47] <Badness45> i have warty
[08:47] <Seveas> crimsun, the 2.0 beta isn't :)
[08:47] <JairunCaloth> will rar make .zip files?
[08:47] <mainer> on some h/w anyway
[08:47] <LarstiQ> ggeller: I had that too with a incomplete iso, running md5sum revealed the checksum not matching up
[08:47] <Xanadu> Badness45 warty aint bad either ;)
[08:47] <Q_Continuum> with regards to the OoO.org controversy - people are complaining because it currently needs sun's java because the OSS versions of Java aren't current enough.
[08:47] <crimsun> mainer: that was not a 2.6.11 kernel, it's an _unsupported_ bk snapshot
[08:47] <mainer> right
[08:48] <Badness45> i was just saying if i used the hoary live to see if they fix the video card and wireless in that OS
[08:48] <ggeller> LarstiQ:  Good idea.  I'll check the md5 sum.
[08:48] <dabaSlon> Q_Continuum: so you ex[pect it to be something that will be worked out in the near future?
[08:48] <crimsun> mainer: just as there's an supported 2.6.12 bk snapshot now in Breezy universe
[08:48] <pierro> what's the syntax for 'host' while configurint a smb windows print ? {windows machin name} ?
[08:48] <dabaSlon> I mean, is it expected...
[08:48] <crimsun> an unsupported ^
[08:48] <mainer> its universe,universe ias all un-supported,correct?
[08:48] <dabaSlon> not you...
[08:48] <Xanadu> Badness45 I'm waiting patiently for them to support my ide raid
[08:48] <crimsun> mainer: correct
[08:48] <Q_Continuum> it's a matter of the OSS java implementations to have all the stuff implemented - which is what RMS said - people claim he was saying otherwise.
[08:48] <kestas> pierro, let me know when you give up
[08:48] <Seveas> pierro, depends on where you configure it, via the gui it's just the hostname or ip address
[08:49] <Q_Continuum> Some people are blowing it out of proportion.
[08:49] <pierro> i'm using the gui
[08:49] <Q_Continuum> It's easier for the devs for OoO.org/Staroffice to use Java then write their own API, and since Java basically runs on anything, it just works.  *shrugs*
[08:49] <dabaSlon> Q_Continuum: well, glad that is not a real issue, end...
[08:49] <mainer> crimsun:cool,didn't know about the breezy kernel,thanks
[08:49] <crimsun> Seveas: OO.o2 isn't what?
[08:49] <Q_Continuum> I don't see a problem running Java...
[08:49] <dabaSlon> not that I use OOo that much, though, especially on Linux...
[08:49] <Seveas> crimsun, it's not in main
[08:49] <Q_Continuum> what do you use dabaSlon?
[08:50] <Badness45> later guys i have to go to work
[08:50] <Xanadu> later Badness45
[08:50] <crimsun> Seveas: check apt-cache policy openoffice.org2
[08:50] <sig> me too
[08:50] <dabaSlon> Q_Continuum: gedit, vi:( I dont really prepare texts as such...
[08:50] <Xanadu> i gotta go watch TV
[08:50] <sig> I hate work and I hate swing shift
[08:50] <Seveas> crimsun, it says hoary/universe :)
[08:50] <dabaSlon> then for .docs, i use abiword, much faster load.
[08:50] <Q_Continuum> Oh, wait...I already installed it (DOH)
[08:50] <Xanadu> dabaSlon you should move to SA - half of Yugoslavia's here already
[08:50] <LarstiQ> Q_Continuum: Java however, does not run on basically anything
[08:50] <kestas> abiword makes crappy .doc
[08:51] <crimsun> Seveas: ah, hoary.
[08:51] <dabaSlon> Xanadu: hehe
[08:51] <crimsun>  breezy/main Packages
[08:51] <sig> kestas: lol, your so negative
[08:51] <Q_Continuum> ew...they need to update the version of OoO.org 2.0 that's on here...ewwwwwwwwww
[08:51] <Seveas> yeah, no sane persons use breezy now ;)
[08:51] <Xanadu> cheers all!
[08:51] <Q_Continuum> the .79 version...it's up to .100 now
[08:51] <dabaSlon> kestas: may well be, not sure, as I sadi, I dont erally prepare texts for ppl to see them,..
[08:51] <crimsun> Seveas: course not :)
[08:51] <Q_Continuum> this is ancient...
[08:51] <sig> .doc is MSword anyways
[08:51] <dabaSlon> nor spreadsheets, drawings, or such common office suite things...
[08:51] <zxc> Fator_Dee, I found out what triggers it, if I right click on an icon then go to properties nautilus crashes
[08:52] <Fator_Dee> zxc: yah, nautilus is kind of buggy
[08:52] <kestas> yeah but does word use .swg or .abi
[08:52] <dabaSlon> right...sig...
[08:52] <Amaranth> Q_Continuum: In hoary it'll never be updated, in breezy they'll probably wait for 2.0 final.
[08:52] <sig> kestas: who cares
[08:52] <sig> I don't use MS
[08:52] <Q_Continuum> *cries* the beta keeps having things fixed every two weeks...
[08:52] <dabaSlon> right, anyhow, a professor would likely care.
[08:52] <dabaSlon> tell  us more, crimsun:)
[08:52] <dabaSlon> jj
[08:53] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, they'd better do it right and simply fix all before releasing the next beta :)
[08:53] <Q_Continuum> every two weeks they roll out a new beta of OoO.org 2.0, and this is like a 2-3 month old version
[08:53] <pierro> hm, i'm trying to print something, i see 'job-printing' when clicking on the print icon in top-right, but nothing happens, for 3 minutes
[08:53] <kestas> I want to see an OpenAccess
[08:53] <karljp> it's hoary, no optional software updates
[08:53] <kestas> that would truly impress me
[08:53] <sig> kestas: there is one
[08:53] <sig> an excellent one by OpenOffice
[08:53] <mello> could someone help me uninstall LimeWire?
[08:54] <sig> works awesome
[08:54] <tritium> kestas, check out OpenOffice 2.0 betas, then
[08:54] <Seveas> kestas, there wil be OOo base, no idea on how good it is :)
[08:54] <sig> it is good
[08:54] <dabaSlon> mello: I could likely..
[08:54] <sig> I use the same stuff at work with both
[08:54] <mello> sweet
[08:54] <Seveas> so it can handle .mdb files?
[08:54] <dabaSlon> did you download it, and did you perhaps follow the ubuntuguide?
[08:54] <kestas> hmm well wait and see if its any good
[08:54] <chaoticoz> hey guys.. can anyone help me starting ssh?
[08:54] <goldfish> chaoticoz: what's up?
[08:54] <kestas> fuck off everyone with all the CTCP VERSIONs already
[08:54] <Seveas> chaoticoz, type 'ssh' in a terminal :)
[08:55] <kestas> jeez
[08:55] <tritium> kestas, please tone down the language
[08:55] <sig> ssh name@ipaddress
[08:55] <dabaSlon> what is ctcp?
[08:55] <Seveas> kestas, just as people can ignore you, you can ignore the CTCP;s
[08:55] <kestas> kk
[08:55] <dabaSlon> and, why does it make you mad...
[08:55] <Q_Continuum> kestas: the OoO.org 2.0 betas are quite good already :-)
[08:55] <kestas> hahah everyone is CTCP VERSIONing me you tools
[08:55] <kestas> hmm Ill try them out some time
[08:55] <goldfish> :)
[08:56] <tritium> kestas, and also don't be calling people names...come on, man
[08:56] <kestas> okay okay
[08:56] <Q_Continuum> *jumps on the bandwagon*
[08:56] <dabaSlon> be humanity to others, kestas:-p
[08:57] <kestas> right 'linux for humans'
[08:57] <kestas> as opposed to what?
[08:57] <Fator_Dee> kestas: how does it harm you? you fear that they are going ho h4x0r your butt :-p
[08:57] <Fator_Dee> *to
[08:57] <sig> kestas: dude why are you being an idiot?
[08:57] <mirak> kestas: opposed to unsuable operating system
[08:57] <mirak> read debian ^^
[08:57] <kestas> who other than humans would use linux?
[08:57] <Seveas> sig, language please...
[08:57] <dabaSlon> ok, ok, but who was the wise guy??
[08:57] <Fator_Dee> penguins of course
[08:57] <dabaSlon> :)
[08:57] <mainer> like you and xanadau dissing theu.s.,there poverty everywhere,dude,try africa,croatia for a start,lol
[08:58] <Badness45> ok quick question the vlc plays good but with  no sound
[08:58] <dabaSlon> Fator_Dee: :)
[08:58] <ThePunisher> hi
[08:58] <mirak> I was jogging around paris
[08:58] <dabaSlon> badness does it freeze, do other programs produce sound?
[08:58] <Badness45> no
[08:58] <Badness45> yeah
[08:58] <dabaSlon> yo punisher.
[08:58] <Badness45> the xine
[08:58] <sig> mplayer
[08:58] <Badness45> but the xine doesn't play as smooth as vlc
[08:59] <mirak> there is guys living under a bridge in caravans and wood house. There is rats near them.  (AMD Athlon XP)
[08:59] <sig> mirak: sucks to be in paris
[08:59] <dabaSlon> mirak: I feel that, same everywhere...
[08:59] <sig> no such things as bums in Idaho
[08:59] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, yes there is
[08:59] <sig> they would die
[08:59] <mirak> sig: people sucks in paris
[08:59] <Badness45> how could i tell
[08:59] <Gnimsh> hello
[08:59] <dabaSlon> except in like, east timor or somewhere before the war...man, teh world sucks...a little.
[09:00] <sig> too cold in the winter and too hot in the summer
[09:00] <Q_Continuum> and how do I switch to it, just install those new packages, and select them on bootup?
[09:00] <sig> dabaSlon: I was in East-Timor
[09:00] <dataw0lf|w> correct.
[09:00] <mirak> sig: I am not from orinating from paris, and I am here for studies, and I am not sure I will stay here
[09:00] <jeroen_> good luck, Gnimsh
[09:00] <sig> Operation Stabalize
[09:00] <Gnimsh> thanks
[09:00] <sig> then became Operation Warden
[09:00] <chaoticoz> hey guys.. how can i install an mp3 codec for the ubuntu Music Player?
[09:00] <dabaSlon> big city,
[09:00] <Q_Continuum> dataw0lf, you talking to me? lol
[09:00] <kestas> save yourself some time and dont bother Gnimsh
[09:00] <dataw0lf|w> Q_Continuum: yes.
[09:00] <Q_Continuum> mmmkay..
[09:01] <dabaSlon> kestas?
[09:01] <ggeller> LarstiQ:  This iso was OK, but something went wrong when I burned the CD.  I mounted the iso and did diff -r -q between the iso and the CD and found the problem.  Now burning a new CD.
[09:01] <jeroen_> chaoticoz, check the wiki on "restricted"
[09:01] <Q_Continuum> do I need both the linux-image-K7 and the linux-image-2.6.10-5-K7 packages?
[09:01] <chaoticoz> the wiki?
[09:01] <Gnimsh> kestas?
[09:01] <chaoticoz> whats the wiki? :x
[09:01] <Gnimsh> why is that?
[09:01] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, try linux-k7
[09:01] <Q_Continuum> that's what I"m doing.
[09:01] <sig> Gnimsh: he has some social problems
[09:01] <tritium> Gnimsh, he's just trolling...ignore him
[09:01] <kestas> linux-image-k7 is dependent on the current linux-image-k7 version
[09:01] <dabaSlon> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage has a search
[09:01] <Seveas> it will install the kernel and the restricted modules
[09:01] <sig> tritium: boot him
[09:01] <kestas> its just for convenience
[09:01] <sig> why allow this crap in here
[09:01] <Badness45> no way to fix the sound in vlc?]
[09:02] <JairunCaloth> chaoticoz: this website is awsome http://ubuntuguide.org/
[09:02] <dabaSlon> and, when you search, search for restrictedformats one word.
[09:02] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, the others lixe linux-image-k7 are dummy packages needed for smooth upgrades
[09:02] <Gnimsh> kk
[09:02] <sig> when Ops don't boot these people it ruins channels fast
[09:02] <tritium> sig, I don't think that would be appropriate right now
[09:02] <sig> tritium: of course it would
[09:02] <sig> he's been here all day doing this
[09:02] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, so if you install linux-k7, it'll seem to install a lot, but actually it doesn't :)
[09:02] <dabaSlon> just let him be...
[09:02] <tritium> sig, ignore him
[09:02] <Seveas> just the needed things
[09:02] <Q_Continuum> it's only like 47MB for the whole thing (added one other tiny package)
[09:02] <dabaSlon> who cares, Ubuntu to him as well.
[09:02] <Q_Continuum> lol
[09:03] <Q_Continuum> "Ubuntu to him as well." heh
[09:03] <dabaSlon> Ubuntu for all...!!
[09:03] <mirak> I am surprised there is not more people shooting the others in paris
[09:03] <HappyFool> is there anything wrong with the package repository?
[09:03] <Gnimsh> next question.  I get to the part about setting users and passwords, and what I type for the pass does not show up on the sc reen, but it does go through the process when I hit enter.  Does the installer not echo the password for security?
[09:03] <kestas> is there really any performance gain in switching to a different kernel though?
[09:03] <foxiness> how can i change the label of fat32 ?
[09:03] <Q_Continuum> UBUNTU FOR EVERYONE!
[09:03] <mirak> maybe the difference is that weapons are not legal
[09:03] <HappyFool> i'm getting warnings/errors about missing files
[09:03] <Q_Continuum> Everyone enjoy your Ubuntu today!  and everyday!
[09:03] <Gnimsh> lol
[09:03] <sig> mirak: they are here
[09:03] <kestas> ubuntu for masochists
[09:03] <gazzie> i can't get flash in firefox working (amd64)
[09:03] <gazzie> help
[09:03] <dabaSlon> mirak: that is unfortunately something particular to the states, as Moore was trying to find out...
[09:03] <gazzie> :P
[09:03] <Seveas> Gnimsh, it;s a security measure indeed
[09:03] <Q_Continuum> gazzie: there is no flash player for amd64
[09:03] <Gnimsh> cool
[09:04] <mirak> dabaSlon: ys but it's unhuman
[09:04] <sig> they should give out guns in Paris
[09:04] <sig> :)
[09:04] <dabaSlon> mubuntu for kestas
[09:04] <Q_Continuum> there's a gpl'd player supposedly...but I gave up on compiling it.
[09:04] <gazzie> ...
[09:04] <darkaudit> ok... I'm trying to get my apt preferences to ignore backports ver of Firefox, but *just* firefox... I haven't quite got that working...
[09:04] <kestas> Q_Continuum, there is a flash player for amd64
[09:04] <kestas> its just not on linux
[09:04] <Q_Continuum> there is?!?!?!?
[09:04] <mirak> you can take the metro or rer train 2 hours a day and meet ABSOLUTELY NOBODY
[09:04] <Q_Continuum> awwww
[09:04] <Q_Continuum> don't get my hopes up like that man
[09:04] <gazzie> so i have to put up with firefox crashing whenever i get to a flash page?
[09:04] <jeroen_> Q_Continuum, gplflash is in universe
[09:04] <gazzie> what the fuck :(
[09:04] <mirak> nobody will ever talk to you in the metro
[09:04] <dabaSlon> Q_Continuum: lol...
[09:04] <kestas> gplflash!! lmao
[09:04] <Q_Continuum> your best bet would be to install a 32-bit chroot and install a 32-bit version of firefox.
[09:05] <sig> tritium: fantastic responses he's giving newbies
[09:05] <sig> just great
[09:05] <gazzie> nothing called cplflash in my synaptic
[09:05] <Q_Continuum> I tried installing GPL flash..do you realize how much crap you have to compile to install that darned thing?
[09:05] <kestas> last time I tried gplflash it managed to display a piece of text moving across the screen and thats about it
[09:05] <jeroen_> kestas, gplfalsh rules
[09:05] <Q_Continuum> yeah gazzie it's not on the 64-bit native yet either
[09:05] <gazzie> gpl even
[09:05] <gazzie> lajsd'lkjsad
[09:05] <Q_Continuum> I had to compile it myself
[09:05] <Gnimsh> the last time I put in the password though, it didn't work when I went to log in
[09:05] <kestas> that was a while ago though
[09:05] <dabaSlon> mirak, its a cultural shock, the ppl were conditioned not to by long years of ex[perience, I suggest that when uin Rome, do as Romans do...
[09:05] <jeroen_> Q_Continuum, it's in universe; no compile
[09:05] <Q_Continuum> I stopped about 1/2 way through after beating my head on it for several hours
[09:05] <mirak> flash gpl or not sucks. it's just a cpu hog
[09:05] <Q_Continuum> on amd64?
[09:05] <Gnimsh> I'm reinstalling
[09:05] <dabaSlon> Those are big, heartless cities, man, dont get caught up.
[09:06] <gazzie> not on amd64 it's not
[09:06] <mirak> dabaSlon: what do they do ?
[09:06] <Q_Continuum> not that I recall seeing
[09:06] <kestas> yeah but how can you play bash the penguin onto mines and spikes flash game without flash?
[09:06] <Q_Continuum> jeroen_, it's NOT in universe for the amd64 arch
[09:06] <dabaSlon> which part?
[09:06] <gazzie> root@pogo:~ # apt-cache search gplflash
[09:06] <gazzie> root@pogo:~ #
[09:06] <Q_Continuum> for i386 it is in universe
[09:06] <gazzie> :|
[09:06] <jeroen_> Q_Continuum, ahh..
[09:06] <mirak> people are just pussies. they are fucking scared
[09:06] <dabaSlon> th eiobg city reference is taht you can end up in the river in no time...
[09:06] <LarstiQ> mirak: in paris?
[09:06] <mirak> they prefer watch TV and see shit life of the others in reality shows
[09:06] <mirak> lol
[09:06] <mirak> am I angry ?
[09:06] <kestas> youre so enlightened mirak
[09:06] <mirak> :)
[09:06] <Q_Continuum> amd64 gets the shaft in a bunch of areas I'm finding
[09:06] <mirak> :D
[09:07] <Q_Continuum> macromedia doesn't care about us
[09:07] <gazzie> uhuh
[09:07] <gazzie> i'm close to going back to windows
[09:07] <Q_Continuum> noooo
[09:07] <goldfish> nooooo
[09:07] <Q_Continuum> just goto i386
[09:07] <kestas> go with that instict dude
[09:07] <Q_Continuum> if you have to
[09:07] <dabaSlon> amd64, pc, and all non mainstream technologies do get shaffted somewhat...
[09:07] <goldfish> windows 3.1 !!!!
[09:07] <klaus^^^> hello
[09:07] <klaus^^^> need help
[09:07] <_hp_> how do i get my terminal to be transparent?
[09:07] <goldfish> hi klaus^^^
[09:07] <kestas> youre doing yourself a favour
[09:07] <klaus^^^> how to setup an ftp server
[09:07] <klaus^^^> ?
[09:07] <kestas> xcompmgr
[09:07] <kestas> _hp_
[09:07] <mirak> gazzie: sometimes you need to take a break
[09:07] <ompaul> gazzie, you are going to hand back your freedom
[09:07] <klaus^^^> hi goldfish
[09:07] <goldfish> _hp_: u got an nvidia card?
[09:07] <dabaSlon> _hp_: in the preferences under edit.
[09:08] <gazzie> i just like it when stuff works first time...
[09:08] <goldfish> klaus^^^: ubuntuguide.org i think tells you
[09:08] <klaus^^^> how to setup an ftp server
[09:08] <darkaudit> 'course I *was* wearing an Arsenal jersey :)
[09:08] <HappyFool> where are the MD5 sums that apt uses to check Package.gz files?
[09:08] <Q_Continuum> just install i386 if you have to Gazzie...it'll give you Ubuntu anyway, and it works quite well.
[09:08] <klaus^^^> no ftp guide
[09:08] <klaus^^^> just apache
[09:08] <kestas> dabaSlon, that kind of transparancy blows
[09:08] <dabaSlon> gazzie: yeah, choose flash over a server....
[09:08] <goldfish> ah right :/
[09:08] <kestas> you just see the desktop, you dont see the window behind
[09:08] <dabaSlon> depends on what you do with your compuetr..
[09:08] <gazzie> not just flash
[09:08] <strikermicetto> rver irc.tin.it
[09:08] <jeroen_> Q_Continuum, I use i386 on my AMD64
[09:08] <kestas> I hit old ladies with it
[09:08] <klaus^^^> ftp server help pls
[09:08] <goofrider> why would going back to windows help?
[09:08] <Seveas> klaus^^^, apt-get install vsftpd
[09:08] <dabaSlon> kestas: that is the only one..in gnome...
[09:08] <kestas> because its easier
[09:08] <Q_Continuum> jeroen_, thats why you've got gplflash :-)
[09:08] <Seveas> klaus^^^, and read its manual
[09:09] <goofrider> Windows doesn't have an AMD64 flash plugin wither
[09:09] <jeroen_> Q_Continuum, yes
[09:09] <klaus^^^> k
[09:09] <gazzie> would going to i386 mean reinstalling entire ubuntu?
[09:09] <gazzie> losing settings etc?
[09:09] <Q_Continuum> yeah
[09:09] <kestas> dabaSlon, I dont know what youre on about
[09:09] <Jalla^> my NTFS-partition is occupying my entire 160GB hdd. any suggestion for how to squeeze in ubuntu?
[09:09] <goofrider> s/wither/either/
[09:09] <gazzie> i have a windows xp install on this machine and flash works fine on it goofrider
[09:09] <Q_Continuum> but it's better than windows :-) people might be able to help you save your settings etc
[09:09] <dabaSlon> kestas: dabaSlon, that kind of transparancy blows dabaSlon: kestas: that is the only one..in gnome...
[09:09] <Seveas> gazzie, you can backup your homedir though, to restore your settings...
[09:09] <kestas> you can use all ubuntu apps in windows Jalla^
[09:09] <goofrider> gazzie, Flah works fine on me too (i386)
[09:09] <kestas> yeah but you can use transset
[09:09] <kestas> to get real transparency
[09:10] <kestas> if youve got an nvidia card
[09:10] <goldfish> kestas: xcompmgr and transset
[09:10] <goofrider> gazzie, have u tried the flash-nonfree package in multiverse?
[09:10] <goldfish> shite
[09:10] <LarstiQ> kestas: not just nvidia
[09:10] <goldfish> kestas: sorry :)
[09:10] <kestas> and its real so you can see whats behind the window
[09:10] <kestas> LarstiQ, yeah but if it aint nvidia its gonna be slow
[09:10] <gazzie> there is no flash package for amd64 that i can see in multiverse
[09:10] <kestas> ati linux support blows
[09:10] <kestas> and who can blame them?
[09:10] <LarstiQ> kestas: not in my experience
[09:10] <ompaul> kestas, in my over ten years of using the internet I have only done /ignore to two people you are such a candidate bet that makes you proud
[09:10] <HappyFool> i'm having a problem with apt-get. can anyone help?
[09:10] <gazzie> i have ati and amd64, great combination...
 you can use all ubuntu apps in windows <- what does that mean?
[09:10] <klaus^^^> where
[09:11] <klaus^^^> can ai find the ftp server manual
[09:11] <klaus^^^> ?
[09:11] <Seveas> Jalla^, it means kestas was being a troll
[09:11] <Seveas> klaus^^^, look in /usr/share/doc/vsftpd
[09:11] <klaus^^^> k
[09:11] <Jalla^> crazt krestas
[09:11] <jeroen_> Jalla^, he's just saying bullshit
[09:11] <_hp_> hm... i installed eterm through synaptic and it's not showing up in the applications menu
[09:11] <goofrider> gazzie, but like I said, there probly isn't a flash plugin for XP64 either
[09:11] <dabaSlon> HappyFool: go ahead and ask the question...describe it, and give us links to pastebins where we can see exact errors.
[09:11] <Jalla^> well how do i squeeze in ubuntu?
[09:11] <goofrider> if u can get XP64
[09:11] <goofrider> LOL
[09:11] <jeroen_> _hp_, use smeg or menu-editor
[09:11] <Jalla^> i gott 100% ntfs
[09:11] <Seveas> _hp_, that means it did not define a .desktop file :)
[09:11] <HappyFool> dabaSlon: fair enough
[09:12] <dabaSlon> thanks, I really aim at fairness, so Iappreciate taht:)
[09:12] <jeroen_> Jalla^, QtParted, Gparted, Partition Magic, these kind of apps
[09:12] <gazzie> what about java? does that work on amd64?
[09:12] <gazzie> i installed it according to ubuntuguide.org
[09:12] <goofrider> klaus^^^, try the dhelp or dwww package. Gr8 for looking for doco on your HD  :)
[09:12] <dabaSlon> um...
[09:12] <gazzie> and it doesn't work
[09:12] <gazzie> :P
[09:12] <dabaSlon> :)
[09:12] <Jalla^> jeroen_: ain't resizing my partition kinda critical?
[09:12] <Seveas> gazzie, did you download a 64-bit version of java?
[09:13] <dabaSlon> gazzie, did you get a file taht says linux amd64 java?
[09:13] <jeroen_> Jalla^, yep. It's dangerous
[09:13] <ghais> hello guys how can i reduce the font size in the tty
[09:13] <Seveas> and also: ubuntuguid is wrong wrt java!
[09:13] <gazzie> shrug
[09:13] <gazzie> :P
[09:13] <dabaSlon> or, as well, IBM has a java that is 64 bit...is tagt a PPC n the end, the 64 processor?
[09:13] <Seveas> PPC64 != AMD :)
[09:13] <Seveas> it's mac
[09:13] <LarstiQ> dabaSlon: ppc64 is 64 bit, but not x86 :)
[09:13] <dabaSlon> ghais: preferences...
[09:13] <_hp_> Seveas, how do i tell it to define a .desktop file?
[09:13] <jeroen_> Seveas, not only mac
[09:14] <LarstiQ> Seveas: bigger iron I'd say
[09:14] <nanot3ch> How can I edit the meta data / tag data of an MP3 file in Rythmbox? When I hit edit and I want to change something, it doesnt let me...My music stuff is in my home directory, and I'm running rythmbox as a user as well....
[09:14] <Seveas> _hp_, use smeg, see the forums about the menu editor
[09:14] <dabaSlon> amd64 is a aPPC?
[09:14] <ghais> dabaSlon: what do you mean preferences, i don't have a gdm
[09:14] <LarstiQ> dabaSlon: no
[09:14] <dabaSlon> well there must be a blackdown, or ibm java for amds...
[09:14] <Seveas> PPC means powerpc, the processors that apple uses in their macs
[09:15] <dabaSlon> yeah...duh, I know that. I am asking if the amd 64 is as well a ppc.
[09:15] <LarstiQ> Seveas: and embedded ppcs, and ibm rs/6000, etc
[09:15] <Seveas> LarstiQ, true
[09:15] <dabaSlon> ghais: where are you trying to change this?
[09:15] <Seveas> dabaSlon, no amd64 is something completely different
[09:15] <dabaSlon> which terminal, wihch wm, which tty
[09:15] <LarstiQ> dabaSlon: no, amd64 is x86 derived
[09:15] <Gnimsh> ok I have logged into Ubuntu
[09:15] <ghais> dabaSlon: i only have a terminal <bash> no graphical interface
[09:15] <HappyFool> ok, my apt-get problem is summarized here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5KerMG38.html
[09:16] <Gnimsh> I'm trying to access the synaptic package monitor, but it asks for a password
[09:16] <Gnimsh> My pass does not work in it
[09:16] <dabaSlon> thanks...anyhow, gazzie, likely there is a java, look at IBMs site, and try to see at the wiki for restrictedformats that may tell you a link right away
[09:16] <Seveas> Gnimsh, the password you use to login?
[09:16] <Gnimsh> yes i tried that
[09:16] <Seveas> HappyFool, this happens sometimes, usually it resolves after a few hours
[09:16] <HappyFool> Seveas: ok, thanks
[09:17] <Seveas> Gnimsh, are you logged in as the user you created during the install?
[09:17] <Gnimsh> yes
[09:17] <dabaSlon> HappyFool: add your sources list to the summary...
[09:17] <Seveas> hmm, what does sudo apt-get update say?
[09:17] <Gnimsh> the what?
[09:17] <Seveas> dabaSlon, you can read it from the error
[09:17] <Gnimsh> First time using linux, sorry
[09:17] <dabaSlon> HappyFool: not that it looks like anything I would know about...
[09:18] <dabaSlon> Seveas: yeah...:(
[09:18] <dabaSlon> I am a newbie...
[09:18] <Seveas> Gnimsh, in a terminal you type: sudo apt-get update
[09:18] <ggibeau> anyone know if afs or arla will work on a amd64 system?
[09:18] <Seveas> (and hit enter)
[09:18] <Jalla^> any suggestions for a good win32 program that can resize my partition?
[09:18] <Seveas> dabaSlon, we all were newbies once :)
[09:18] <Gnimsh> I get an error msg that says "failed to run users-admin child terminated w/ 1 status
[09:18] <dabaSlon> rigght, I dont feel bad about it or anything...
[09:18] <HappyFool> dabaSlon: I assume Seveas is correct; presumably the repository is being updated (?)
[09:18] <Seveas> Jalla^, Partition Magic is the best. But it's expensive
[09:18] <darkaudit> Jalla^: Partition Magic
[09:19] <Jalla^> hmmj
[09:19] <dabaSlon> or you can steal it...
[09:19] <dabaSlon> :-[
[09:19] <Seveas> dabaSlon, yeah, but we don't encourage that in here :)
[09:19] <Jalla^> i could :>
[09:19] <dabaSlon> ...but dont do that, that would suck...
[09:19] <dabaSlon> and so on/..
[09:19] <Seveas> ;)
[09:19] <Jalla^> who knows, maybe i already did
[09:20] <klaus^^^> where is the conf file of that ftp server
[09:20] <klaus^^^> cant find it
[09:20] <dabaSlon> your ISP knows, likely.,..:)
[09:20] <darkaudit> geez... clock keeps running fast... how often is it supposed to synchronize with the NTP servers if you have that option checked?
[09:20] <gazzie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33869 <-- any thoughts on this
[09:20] <Seveas> klaus^^^, should be in /etc/vsftpd or something
[09:20] <Gnimsh> Seveas, I'm running apt get now
[09:20] <Gnimsh> I think
[09:20] <klaus^^^> k
[09:20] <Seveas> darkaudit, daily i believe
[09:20] <nanot3ch> Anyone know why I can't edit MP3 file info in Rythmbox?...(It works in XMMS...)
[09:21] <Gnimsh> Seveas I went to applications, run application
[09:21] <Gnimsh> is that the correct place to run it from?
[09:21] <jeroen_> Gnimsh, just run synaptic
[09:21] <Seveas> Gnimsh, not really
[09:21] <jeroen_> System -> Administration -> synaptic
[09:21] <HappyFool> i thought his synaptic broke
[09:21] <Seveas> jeroen_, that was giving problems, i'm debuggingg :)
[09:21] <jeroen_> It's a graphical utitility for apt-get
[09:21] <jeroen_> Seveas, ah, okay ;)
[09:21] <jdub> um
[09:21] <darkaudit> hail the jdub
[09:22] <Seveas> Gnimsh, try applications -> system tools -> root terminal and use your password
[09:22] <Gnimsh> ok
[09:22] <Seveas> Gnimsh, see whether that works
[09:22] <klaus^^^> is nnot in etc
[09:22] <klaus^^^> where is it
[09:22] <klaus^^^> ?
[09:22] <Gnimsh> nothig
[09:22] <Gnimsh> +n
[09:22] <Seveas> klaus^^^, try dpkg -L vsftpd, that will show all files it installed. Look for the configfile...
[09:23] <Seveas> Gnimsh, it won't take your password?
[09:23] <Gnimsh> no
[09:23] <Seveas> but you can login with it?
[09:23] <guptan> any one managed to get smartlink modem working in hoary?
[09:23] <Gnimsh> yes
[09:23] <Seveas> Gnimsh, how long is this password?
[09:24] <Gnimsh> 7 characters
[09:24] <Seveas> should be enough too
[09:24] <keffo> hm
[09:24] <dabaSlon> what is teh first, third, fifth, and seventh?
[09:24] <keffo> how do i install new splash screens? done it once.. dun remember
[09:24] <Gnimsh> dabaSlon:  are you serious?  lol
[09:24] <Gnimsh> its alphanumerica, if that makes a difference
[09:25] <Seveas> tritium, thanks :)
[09:25] <tritium> ;)
[09:25] <HappyFool> you're sure you're not typing it in wrong?
[09:25] <dabaSlon> Failed to run gdmsetup:
[09:25] <dabaSlon>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[09:25] <dabaSlon> is that it, gnimsh?
[09:25] <keffo> oi?
[09:25] <Seveas> any idea on this tritium, password works for logging in but not for sudo. UID 1000
[09:25] <dabaSlon> keffo...just do it..
[09:26] <Gnimsh> nope, dabaSlon
[09:26] <dabaSlon> If not, art.gnome.org may have the faqs on it.
[09:26] <tritium> Seveas, hrm, let me read scrollback
[09:26] <Seveas> Gnimsh, go to applications -> system tools -> terminal
[09:26] <Seveas> and in the window that opens you type: cat /etc/passwd | grep YOUR_USERNAME
[09:27] <Seveas> replace YOUR_USERNAME with your actual username on that machine
[09:27] <HappyFool> how about trying sudo in the terminal -- maybe the problem is with gnome-sudo ?
[09:27] <Seveas> HappyFool, that'll be step 2
[09:27] <keffo> hm
[09:27] <HappyFool> and you might get some useful error message
[09:27] <keffo> where teh hell
[09:28] <Seveas> ;)
[09:28] <Seveas> keffo, i'm here ;)
[09:28] <Gnimsh> ok I did that
[09:28] <Gnimsh> got :/home/justin:/bin/bash
[09:28] <Seveas> it should say someting like justin:x:1000:1000
[09:28] <keffo> just cant remember how i did install my last splashscreen ;p
[09:28] <Gnimsh> yes it did that too
[09:28] <Seveas> nice :)
[09:29] <Seveas> now try sudo -i
[09:29] <Gnimsh> It says I am not in the sudoers file, and that it will be reported
[09:29] <Seveas> hmm!
[09:29] <Seveas> that's too odd
[09:29] <Gnimsh> Is there a way too put myself in it?
[09:29] <Seveas> a hard way
[09:29] <Seveas> but the installer should have done that...
[09:30] <tritium> Gnimsh, this is a fresh hoary install?
[09:30] <Gnimsh> yes
[09:31] <tritium> As Seveas pointed out, the installer is _supposed_ to have setup the first user with sudo priveleges.  This is rather odd.
[09:31] <Gnimsh> should I try reinstalling?
[09:31] <Seveas> Gnimsh, do you have pen and paper nearby? I will give you some instructions to do, but you have to reboot for it
[09:31] <Seveas> so write them down
[09:31] <Gnimsh> I can turn on notepad
[09:31] <HappyFool> Gnimsh: what does "echo $UID" say ?
[09:31] <Gnimsh> k go
[09:31] <Tatster> Hi , is there an Ubuntu equivalent to Group Policy controls in Windows Active Directory (for example for restricting access to Desktop settings)
[09:31] <stormy73034> any one know how to configure tightvnc server after u get it from apt-get
[09:32] <Seveas> Gnimsh, can i talk to you in private, that'll be easier
[09:32] <Gnimsh> sure
[09:32] <Gnimsh> HappyFool:  nothin
[09:32] <stormy73034> tatster kindof u need to use group policy manger
[09:32] <Gnimsh> a blankline
[09:32] <HappyFool> that doesn't sound good
[09:32] <Seveas> hmm??
[09:32] <HappyFool> you typed it with capital letters, exactly as i did?
[09:32] <Q_Continuum> I want to set up VNC to work remotely from the outside world - what all do I have to do?  (configure router to forward port(s) I know) anything other than that?
[09:32] <Gnimsh> no
[09:33] <Seveas> do that :)
[09:33] <Tatster> stormy, is that install by default?
[09:33] <Seveas> on linux capitalization matters
[09:33] <Gnimsh> 1000
[09:33] <stormy73034> tightvnc no
[09:33] <Gnimsh> damn picky linux
[09:33] <Q_Continuum> what's the best vnc to install for performance?
[09:33] <tritium> Q_Continuum, if you use ssh tunneling, you don't even need port forwarding on the router
[09:33] <HappyFool> ah, ok, my hunch doesn't pan out
[09:33] <Q_Continuum> true..I got that working on windows
[09:33] <stormy73034> i got it with snyptic
[09:33] <HappyFool> guess the install went wrong or something. Seveas reboot it will have to be ;)
[09:33] <Q_Continuum> now how would I do that tritium here on linux?
[09:34] <Tatster> Stormy, What does it allow you to control?
[09:34] <tritium> Q_Continuum, with the "-L" switch for ssh
[09:34] <Q_Continuum> oh, when launching the client or the server?
[09:34] <klaus^^^> can you give me a ftp server with gui
[09:34] <klaus^^^> ?
[09:34] <Q_Continuum> so when launching the vnc program I can use -L to force it to use SSH?
[09:34] <mirak> if I move the kernel file, lilo can't boot it anymore is that right ?
[09:34] <stormy73034> tatster gpmc let u set just about anything from control pannel access to ie restrictions
[09:34] <klaus^^^> hello
[09:34] <klaus^^^> ftp with gui
[09:35] <klaus^^^> ?
[09:35] <tritium> Q_Continuum, client side, e.g., ssh -L 5700:<IP_ADDRESS>:5700 -N -T<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:35] <HappyFool> klaus^^^: let me install vsftpd. one moment.
[09:35] <klaus^^^> k
[09:36] <klaus^^^> i don't know what to do in vsftpd
[09:36] <Q_Continuum> no extra config to do server-side?
[09:36] <HappyFool> klaus^^^: it looks like the config file is /etc/vsftpd.conf
[09:36] <jeroen_> mirak: yes
[09:36] <klaus^^^> yes
[09:36] <danko123456> I found out why my gnome was being sketchy...I ran out of disk space...
[09:36] <Tatster> Stormy, I think we are talking cross-purposes. I know about GPMC in Windows environment, what I am asking is, is there an equivalent in Ubuntu/Linux if I was to move away from Windows
[09:36] <tritium> Q_Continuum, just have your vnc server running on the port you forward
[09:36] <HappyFool> what do you want/need to do with the ftp server?
[09:36] <klaus^^^> i found that
[09:36] <Q_Continuum> ok, thanks.
[09:36] <tritium> sure
[09:36] <klaus^^^> put some files so that somoene
[09:36] <klaus^^^> can connect
[09:36] <klaus^^^> and download
[09:36] <klaus^^^> just one user
[09:37] <LoopStar> hi everyone!
[09:37] <dhashen> hi just loaded ubuntu on my laptop - rocks! but can't load extensions on my firefox as its 1.02 - anyone know when repositories will be updated to 1.04?
[09:37] <LoopStar> maybe you could help me with a small problem I'm having? I'v upgraded to the latest development release a few days ago. After the upgrade my usb card-reader didn't work anymore. I've found out that /dev/sda* has been deleted. I did a './MAKEDEV sda' in /dev which worked until I rebooted... the device nodes were gone again. do you have any idea how I could prevent them from being deleted?
[09:37] <stormy73034> tatster ohhh sorry im linux nebbie just starting with it fromwinodws backround my bad
[09:37] <Hoxzer^> Do you guys know any software for linux that is for using windows XP via remote desktop ?
[09:37] <stormy73034> rdp
[09:37] <stormy73034> hoxzer terminal server client
[09:37] <dhashen> vnc?
[09:38] <Hoxzer^> is it already in ubuntu?
[09:38] <Q_Continuum> yes.
[09:38] <stormy73034> yes
[09:38] <tritium> Hoxzer^, Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client
[09:38] <Hoxzer^> hmm what I need to install for windows ?
[09:38] <stormy73034> applications internet terminal service clint hoxzer
[09:38] <dingo> Is there any IRC server in Ubuntu ?
[09:38] <tritium> LoopStar, the topic asks that you not use breezy yet
[09:38] <Hoxzer^> where do I download that ?
[09:38] <Q_Continuum> XP Pro or Home Hoxzer^ ?
[09:38] <CarlK> Hoxzer^ - XP ;)
[09:38] <Tatster> stormy, no problems.   I'm also pretty new to Ubuntu but I like what I see so far.  I just can't see how to replace some Windows functionality - I'm sure it;'s out there, but where?
[09:38] <stormy73034> u can apt-get a irc server
[09:39] <tritium> dingo, apt-cache search irc | grep server
[09:39] <dingo> apt-cache search doesn't show any..
[09:39] <danko123456> dhashen: you sure you updated and upgraded your firefox and still nothing?
[09:39] <dhashen> yeah
[09:39] <dingo> I'm using hoary 5.04
[09:39] <stormy73034> tatster dunno this is the best flavor i found so far that i like
[09:39] <Hoxzer^> aargh what I need to instal to windows so I can use that internet terminal service
[09:39] <CarlK> tritium - try ircd
[09:39] <dhashen> repos say 1.02 latest
[09:39] <Tatster> stormy, me too so far
[09:39] <tritium> dingo, that search should return quite a few
[09:39] <stormy73034> hoxzer are u running ubuntu 5.04
[09:40] <Q_Continuum> Hoxzer^, are your running Windows XP Home or Professional?
[09:40] <dhashen> also using 5.04 and edited apt list
[09:40] <CarlK> Hoxzer^ - arrgh - it is part of XP
[09:40] <Hoxzer> Prof
[09:40] <dingo> tritium: none show.
[09:40] <Q_Continuum> Ok then you don't need to install anything - you need to follow the steps to make sure that Remote Desktop Connection will work.
[09:40] <tritium> CarlK, I'm not the one looking for one, but thanks
[09:40] <aaron> lol
[09:40] <aaron> I seem to have pissed off the guys in #debian
[09:40] <aaron> by telling them I run ubuntu
[09:40] <Q_Continuum> meaning configure your firewall, and make sure that the user is allowed to remotely log in
[09:40] <LoopStar> tritium: ok. my fault. sorry for asking. thanks for you answer!
[09:40] <Q_Continuum> lol aaron
[09:40] <tritium> dingo, make sure you have universe and multiverse setup in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <CarlK> tritium - oh yeah...
[09:40] <aaron> so i thought I'd come talk to the friendlier people over here
[09:40] <tritium> LoopStar, you're free to ask
[09:41] <tritium> But, we may not have a fix for you right now.
[09:41] <tritium> aaron, what did they say/do?
[09:41] <Q_Continuum> so Hoxzer just dig up the info (probably google it, it's on MS's site) for howto get Remote Desktop Connection configured server-side
[09:41] <Q_Continuum> then use the client in Ubuntu to connect to it.
[09:42] <Q_Continuum> in fact...I'm gonna do that right now *laptop's configured* time to see performance :-)
[09:42] <dingo> tritium, I have the extra packages
[09:42] <aaron> anyone here know any good media players that play wma?
[09:42] <aaron> I tried mplayer and beep using the synaptic packages
[09:42] <aaron> but they failed
[09:42] <stormy73034> hoxzer in xp pro right click on my comptuer, properties, remote check all users to connect remotley if ur an admin on there u dont have to select the user other wize pick ur login
[09:43] <stormy73034> make sure the fire wall is set to allow remote connection on the ports
[09:43] <LoopStar> tritium: I asked because there was someone in the news-forum having the same problem after upgrading to 5.04, so I thought it wasn't a breezy-specific problem. The links given in the forum didn't help, though. :(
[09:43] <danko123456> dhashen: the 3 and 4 are included in the 2, for some odd reason
[09:43] <danko123456> did you try your extensions, and they do not work/
[09:44] <dhashen> yeah - firefox page does not allow me in - insists i must update to 1.04
[09:45] <aaron> tritium, mplayer doesn't load properly..when I do gmplayer from a command line it just shows a black shroud where the graphics should be
[09:45] <aaron> and with beep, when I point it at my music folder, it doesn't load the wma's
[09:45] <dhashen> don't understand what u mean by 3 and 4 included in 2?
[09:45] <aaron> I tried locating the plugin, but the link from the site has gone down
[09:45] <danko123456> dhashen: there may be a way about it through the backports and that, breezy...but, if you try, make sure you go sstep by step, dont add a repo, and aptget update...upgrade.
[09:46] <danko123456> cause hoary is stable, bob2 said thast they included the patches for 3, and 4, inot the stable 2...
[09:46] <danko123456> somehting like that.
[09:46] <tritium> aaron, sorry, I'm not familiar with mplayer
[09:46] <danko123456> I dont understand either, but bob2 said that last nioght.
[09:46] <tritium> dingo, you're doing something wrong then.  Have you done an apt-get update?
[09:46] <aaron> tritium: Don't worry about it, it doesn't work anyway =P
[09:46] <danko123456> aaron: xine.
[09:46] <dingo> tritium, yes.
[09:46] <dhashen> ok - is there a howto?
[09:46] <danko123456> xine ui is what I use.
[09:47] <danko123456> dhashen: not really.
[09:47] <tritium> dingo, please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin.com
[09:47] <geogeo> yo
[09:47] <dhashen> help?
[09:47] <JairunCaloth> do I need wine and xine?
[09:47] <JairunCaloth> or just one or the other?
[09:47] <tritium> JairunCaloth, they serve different purposes
[09:48] <dhashen> what if i just download the latest from firefox site and install? instead of aptget via backports - will this 'break' something?
[09:48] <dingo> tritium, http://pastebin.com/283343\
[09:48] <dingo> (without the \)
[09:48] <Tatster> What's the best WAV audio editor for ubuntu?
[09:49] <danko123456> try it, if you can, it should not screw  anything up...I mean,..I just removed my fierfox...
[09:49] <tritium> dingo, you need to uncomment lines 19 & 20 to enable universe
[09:49] <geogeo> hey dudes
[09:49] <danko123456> YO
[09:49] <geogeo> Has anybody of you ever installed a printer
[09:50] <tritium> Tatster, I like audacity
[09:50] <aaron> yeah
[09:50] <geogeo> on a machine via smb ?
[09:50] <aaron> no...just plug into the serial port
[09:50] <danko123456> dhashen: um,...I found a way to insatll 1.0.3/..
[09:50] <Tatster> tritium, are you familiar with Wavelab on Windows? If so, how does audacity compare?
[09:50] <dingo> tritium, darn my copy pasting skills :)
[09:50] <geogeo> my printer is on a computer (windows) and I can see this computer through my router (under debian) with samba
[09:50] <dhashen> yeah?
[09:50] <geogeo> does anybody know if it's possible to print from my laptop ?
[09:50] <tritium> Tatster, no, I haven't run Windows in years, sorry
[09:51] <Tatster> no probs
[09:51] <tritium> dingo, :)
[09:51] <tritium> geogeo, yes, it's possible
[09:51] <geogeo> oh ?
[09:52] <geogeo> because i tried (this is a printer which isn't in cups' list but it works with another driver)
[09:52] <geogeo> and I can't print from my laptop
[09:52] <danko123456> yup, remove your firefox, add these two to your sources: "deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" "deb http://manno.name/debian/ breezy cvs" , and update your apt-get, and then you will have the 1.03, but, I have no clue how good or bad that will be for your system.
[09:52] <geogeo> maybe should i put the printer on my router, and then samba will manage it (it's maybe easier)
[09:52] <tritium> danko123456, in general, backports are bad for your system ;)
[09:54] <dhashen> danko123456:does your java and flash work etc?
[09:54] <danko123456> tritium, if he installs the .3 firefox, and removes the sources, does nothing else, like upgrade or something stupid like that, he should be almost fine, execpt perhaps for teh firefox...
[09:54] <danko123456> after the new version?
[09:54] <dhashen> yeah
[09:55] <danko123456> dhashen: :-p , how about you bork your system, and tell me...since I do not need the 1.0.3...
[09:55] <IcemanV9> bah .. qnext is ok - too jerky when you move on the desktop
[09:55] <danko123456> dhashen: I found you a package, in apt-get..
[09:55] <geogeo> i'm coming back in 2 minutes, I give you the time to think..=]
[09:55] <geogeo> see ya
[09:55] <dhashen> danko123456 : dont you use extensions?
[09:55] <tritium> danko123456, yes, he should be okay
[09:56] <dhashen> can't live without mine!
[09:56] <danko123456> dhashen: nope... tritium: oooh. can not be athenitacated...malicious individual...
[09:56] <tritium> danko123456, huh?
[09:56] <danko123456> tritium: that is what synaptic tells me...
[09:56] <danko123456> for the 1.0.3 version
[09:57] <tritium> danko123456, trying to do what?
[09:57] <danko123456> oh well, what the heck, Ill just clean up the mess, open up the closet get the bulletproof vest...
[09:57] <danko123456> install...
[09:57] <tritium> which package, and from where?
[09:57] <dhashen> btw I'm a newbie - what does bork your system mean?
[09:57] <tritium> break it
[09:57] <dhashen> oh
[09:57] <danko123456> Special Ed, for those interested in a good rap song, and have not heard it yet..."the mission"
[09:58] <frans> hello
[09:58] <danko123456> dhashen: yeah, me to a newbie...
[09:58] <Fator_Dee> danko123456: good rap sonh :-o impossible... ;-)
[09:58] <danko123456> o
[09:58] <TwoBitSprite> I was in here yesterday trying to get mpeg video working, and someone gave me a link to an FAQ that I can't find anymore... can someone provide me with a link to something like that?
[09:58] <danko123456> listen to it,. its pretty sweet,.,..
[09:58] <dingo> dhashen, as I managed yesterday :)
[09:58] <Fator_Dee> danko123456: I'm not into rap :-p
[09:58] <danko123456> Fator_Dee: hear the song...since yuo spent so much time already on it..
[09:59] <dhashen> dingo : what did you do?
[09:59] <danko123456> see ya tritium
[09:59] <dingo> dhashen, only the applications that were running did something. Couldn't log in, couldn't do anything else....
[09:59] <LoopStar> bye
[09:59] <Fator_Dee> danko123456: still, I doubt I would like it
[09:59] <dingo> dhashen, power-outage during install.
[09:59] <dhashen> oooops
[09:59] <danko123456> Fator_Dee: wan it?
[10:00] <Fator_Dee> danko123456: no thanks
[10:01] <Muiske> Good day
[10:02] <zxc> anyone know how/a guide on installing and using wine?
[10:02] <dhashen> seems a little weird that 'stable' has some very recent software like gnome 2.10 - suppose just a matter of time before firefox is updated - I'll be patient
[10:02] <HappyFool> my understanding is that software is not upgraded in a particular release
[10:03] <danko123456> dude, I gave you a way, the fixes are in the hoary 1.2, I am downloading now, it is quite slow...
[10:03] <HappyFool> updates only include bug-fixes
[10:03] <Q_Continuum> anyone here used VNC?  I can start it, but it starts with a blank screen with the exception of a terminal window open...would like a normal gnome desktop.
[10:03] <danko123456> goraneee...
[10:04] <HappyFool> Q_Continuum: this is a bit of a guess, but what happens if you run gnome-session from that terminal?
[10:04] <gazzie> how do i start proftpd once i've installed it from synaptic?
[10:05] <HappyFool> sudo /etc/init/proftpd start, at a guess
[10:05] <gazzie> this config box came up and i chose inetd
[10:05] <gazzie> now what
[10:05] <Q_Continuum> gnome-session: you're already running a session manager
[10:05] <JairunCaloth> ouch
[10:05] <gazzie> heh
[10:05] <gazzie> too much irc
[10:05] <gazzie> just did /join instead of cd
[10:05] <gazzie> ;P
[10:06] <JairunCaloth> lol
[10:06] <TwoBitSprite> ok, found the FAQ... but it mentions briefly the "debian-marillat repository"... how would I add this to my sources.list? I doesn't give an actual URL, etc...
[10:06] <HappyFool> Q_Continuum: hrm. sorry, i give up
[10:06] <Q_Continuum> I'm futzing with it
[10:06] <gazzie> ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[10:06] <HappyFool> TwoBitSprite: take a look at http://ubuntuguide.org
[10:06] <gazzie> wassat mean
[10:06] <gazzie> :)
[10:06] <geogeo> back dude
[10:06] <JairunCaloth> ok, does wine need full RW access to the windows partition?
[10:06] <geogeo> could anyone help me just a few minutes ?
[10:06] <Q_Continuum> anyone used VNC before?  Would like my gnome bars heh
[10:06] <HappyFool> TwoBitSprite: and http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:07] <geogeo> about printers through samba
[10:07] <HappyFool> gazzie: xinted is a sort of meta-server which starts up other internet servers when they are needed
[10:07] <gazzie> so how do i configured proftpd
[10:07] <gazzie> :)
[10:07] <danko123456> like what?
[10:07] <Q_Continuum> right now I just have to launch the apps from the terminal window, and I can't fullscreen one without losing the ability to switch back and forth.
[10:08] <HappyFool> i think when i installed it i selected the standalone option (i.e., not inetd)
[10:08] <gazzie> another question.. anyone know much about aoss ?
[10:08] <HappyFool> i think it Just Worked
[10:08] <gazzie> ok how can i change that now happyfool? :p
[10:08] <{Seb}> hey all
[10:08] <{Seb}> after a week of suse
[10:08] <HappyFool> gazzie: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure proftpd ?
[10:08] <factorx> how can i adjust the look (ie fonts, font-size, window color) of kde apps, if i dont actually use kde?
[10:08] <{Seb}> 9.3, i'm back with ubuntu
[10:08] <Seveaz> tritium, in case you're curious: we figured out what the sudo problem was
[10:08] <{Seb}> however, how can i get mono 1.1.7 installed?
[10:08] <{Seb}> only 1.1.6 is in backports
[10:09] <HappyFool> Seveaz: i'm curious. what was it?
[10:09] <danko123456> sweet, seb, so how is suse doin'?
[10:09] <gazzie> ok happyfool that worked
[10:09] <{Seb}> danko12456: suse is good but no where near as polished as ubuntu ;-)
[10:09] <gazzie> how do i setup accounts/homedirs etc
[10:09] <gazzie> :)
[10:09] <{Seb}> gnome is suse is loads better but gnome in ubuntu is in a new world!
[10:10] <Seveaz> HappyFool, he reinstalled ubuntu while keeping the data, installing sudo went wrong. So the old sudoers file was kept. But he chose a new username, which of course wasn;t in the sudoers file
[10:10] <c03> Got any FAQ on how to use wireless networking?
[10:10] <HappyFool> gazzie: i'm not sure what the options are; easiest is just to add normal users to your system via adduser
[10:10] <Seveaz> HappyFool, so we don't have to blame the installer :)
[10:10] <HappyFool> Seveaz: ah. so his clean install of hoary wasn't quite ;)
[10:10] <Seveaz> nope
[10:11] <{Seb}> also, when i upgrade to breezy and choose tomboy
[10:11] <TwoBitSprite> is there a FAQ on how to get the Flash plugin to push sound through ESD?
[10:11] <Seveaz> but he's doing a clean one now
[10:11] <{Seb}> dbus is installed and evolution is removed
[10:11] <{Seb}> any ideas?
[10:11] <Seveaz> {Seb}, DO NOT use breezy
[10:11] <danko123456> yeah, seb, like that one guy said, "it's got the apps, stupid..."
[10:11] <Seveaz> it;s extremely unstable
[10:11] <{Seb}> yeh, but i would like mono 1.1.7
[10:11] <{Seb}> will it be in backports soon?
[10:11] <Seveaz> {Seb}, so install it from the mono website
[10:11] <geogeo> hey
[10:11] <HappyFool> isn't it possible to install it from source?
[10:11] <{Seb}> how?
[10:11] <c03> Wireless ?
[10:12] <geogeo> on warty, there was network profiles
[10:12] <geogeo> on hoary, not anymore ?
[10:12] <Seveaz> {Seb}, the mono website has instructions for ubuntu
[10:12] <danko123456> dhashen, downloaded yet?
[10:12] <Seveaz> but PLEASE do not use breezy (and backports are also not advisory)
[10:12] <khagen> Hey, what's this night's hassle?
[10:13] <reagleBRKLN> hi, i 'm trying to record sound on my hoary install of a dimension 2400. playing works find, and i've read the howto, but got nothing so far. i'd be happy to record the sound from the ak5370 microphone or even in intel onboard
[10:13] <danko123456> yeah, 3pm...
[10:13] <c03> Does anyone know how to use wireless networking on a laptop ?
[10:13] <factorx> how can i adjust the look (ie fonts, font-size, window color) of kde apps, if i dont actually use kde?
[10:13] <geogeo> ahha c03
[10:13] <Seveaz> c03, /me does
[10:13] <geogeo> i'm trying to do that
[10:13] <geogeo> and Seveaz does
[10:13] <geogeo> he's the man
[10:13] <khagen> Hmmm, I don't have any experience in any of these.. :-(
[10:13] <c03> okay :)
[10:14] <c03> Can you help us then ?
[10:14] <danko123456> bah
[10:14] <Seveaz> i'll try, what's the problem?
[10:14] <danko123456> Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask!
[10:14] <geogeo> but my wireless doesn't work at all..he's maybe not so experimented :)
[10:14] <danko123456> enced?
[10:14] <{Seb}> SeveazL i can't see ubuntu anywhere
[10:14] <danko123456> reagleBRKLN: hm...
[10:14] <khagen> geogeo: Are the driver-modules loaded?
[10:14] <geogeo> yeah yeah of course
[10:15] <geogeo> i've got the radio signal
[10:15] <geogeo> but i can't connect
[10:15] <Seveas> {Seb}, then you're not looking good enough ;) (sorry, i only know it's there, not where it is)
[10:15] <danko123456> reagleBRKLN: so you just want your computer to recognize your external microphone, and record sound somewhere...
[10:15] <reagleBRKLN> danko123456: i need a good program that can figure it out, a really good (up to date) howto, or a miracle :)
[10:15] <dhashen> not yet got stuck on something else - did it work for you?
[10:15] <reagleBRKLN> yes
[10:15] <c03> Seveas: If I knew that, I would have corrected it => I don't know, maybe it can't my wireless card?
[10:15] <Seveas> geogeo, read the manpage for wpa_supplicant and try experimenting with it
[10:15] <danko123456> I should have a microphone here somewhere, if noone else knows anything...crimsun would likely know...
[10:16] <Seveas> geogeo, in a root terminal you just type ifconfig ath0 up
[10:16] <geogeo> don't worry Seveas
[10:16] <geogeo> it will work =]
[10:16] <Seveas> geogeo, and then experiment with starting wpa_supplicant
[10:16] <{Seb}> Seveas: there is mono 1.1.6 for debian
[10:16] <{Seb}> Seveas: but not ubuntu and this is in backports anyway
[10:17] <Seveas> c03, how far do you get? can you scan for networks, can you connect? can you do nothing with it
[10:17] <Seveas> ?
[10:17] <rop10> Hello, got a quick question if anyone has a moment?
[10:17] <Seveas> rop10, just ask
[10:17] <danko123456> Ubuntu Help | Have a question? Just ask! |...
[10:17] <JairunCaloth> what is a good c++ IDE?
[10:17] <rop10> Workin on ubuntu for a school class, my task is to get KDE installed and running, without switching to Kubuntu, I'm using Warty, curious if theres an easy way to do it. I tried sudo apt-get install KDE and i get errors
[10:17] <danko123456> VS.net:-p
[10:18] <khagen> vim.., or else Anjuta.
[10:18] <Seveas> rop10, there's no easy way for warty
[10:18] <ompaul> JairunCaloth, xemacs nedit and lots more
[10:18] <Seveas> rop10, on hoary you can simpy say apt-get install kde
[10:18] <Muiske> So, I installed ubuntu.... but it seems I can't get any higher resolution setting than<EMAIL_ADDRESS>how do I change this?
[10:18] <danko123456> rop10: hmm...that should be it... or add desktop?
[10:18] <{Seb}> Seveas: any ideas?
[10:18] <rop10> how long would upgrading to Hoary take?
[10:18] <Seveas> Muiske, read the manpage about xorg.conf and edit that file
[10:19] <danko123456> seb, um...through a .deb file?
[10:19] <{Seb}> Seveas: who runs the backports?
[10:19] <khagen> rop10: It took me about 3/4 to 1 hour.
[10:19] <Seveas> {Seb}, not at all, but google for "ubuntu site=www.mono.org" (or whatever the mono site is)
[10:19] <khagen> 3/4 as in 45 mins.
[10:19] <rop10> guidetohoary on the ubuntu webpage doesn't really have any info =X
[10:19] <khagen> rop10: Depending on downstream bandwith quite a bit.
[10:20] <Seveas> rop10, you want to upgrade?
[10:20] <danko123456> dhashen: works fine.....!
[10:20] <{Seb}> who runs the backports?
[10:20] <reagleBRKLN> does ubuntu/kubuntu use oss or alsa? i see the oss mods, but kmixer reports its using alsa
[10:20] <c03> Seveas: I don't think I can even activate the wireless thingie... That means no scan :(
[10:20] <rop10> Yeah i hate gnome i want KDE, professor says its okay to if i go to Woary
[10:20] <rop10> err
[10:20] <Seveas> c03, aha
[10:20] <khagen> 2.6 kernel = alsa
[10:20] <reagleBRKLN> ok
[10:20] <{Seb}> i would like to contact who runs the backports ;-)
[10:20] <Seveas> c03, open a root terminal and type ifconfig -a
[10:20] <khagen> {Seb} that's the problem?
[10:21] <Seveas> does it report your network card (wlan0/wifi0/ath0)
[10:21] <rop10> hoary* sorry
[10:21] <danko123456> seb, there are motus, maybe??
[10:21] <Seveas> rop10: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:21] <danko123456> or the forums...posdt it if you cant find it.
[10:21] <rop10> And than just let it run?
[10:21] <Seveas> yep
[10:21] <Seveas> it'll take a while (downloads a lot)
[10:21] <danko123456> worry hoary sorry
[10:21] <rop10> Thank you very much ^_^
[10:22] <Seveas> yw :)
[10:22] <holycow> hey, you guys should check out another browser called kazehakase ... basically somewhere between mozilla and firefox, but for gtk
[10:22] <holycow> kinda neato
[10:22] <khagen> holycow: url?
[10:22] <holycow> one nice thing i like is it uses gtk file chooser and print dialog (sorta)
[10:22] <holycow> khagen, sudo apt-get instal kazehakase :)
[10:22] <Seveas> holycow, are you sure it's gtk and not qt, the 'k' it starts with makes me suspicious...
[10:22] <rop10> rop10@ubuntu:~ $ sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:22] <rop10> Reading Package Lists... Done
[10:22] <rop10> Reading Package Lists... Done
[10:22] <rop10> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[10:22] <rop10> Calculating Upgrade... Done
[10:23] <rop10> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:23] <danko123456> DHASHEN: you got that downloaded?
[10:23] <khagen> holycow: Okay, that's worth a try indeed.
[10:23] <holycow> well not saying to swtich or anything ... .
[10:23] <holycow> http://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/
[10:23] <rop10> any ideas sir?
[10:23] <rop10> ^
[10:23] <Seveas> rop10, can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[10:23] <reagleBRKLN> hey cool, arecord makes squiglies when i talk
[10:23] <danko123456> yeah, its not too hard///
[10:23] <rop10> yes sir just a second
[10:24] <darkaudit> anyone using the DirectX 9 patch for WINE?
[10:25] <{Seb}> i've put a post on the ubuntuforums
[10:25] <geogeo> hey dudes, do you know why, when i want to manage printers with localhost:631
[10:25] <{Seb}> about 1.1.7
[10:25] <vigilanty> can anybody tell me why i can't play mp3's even after installing ogg vorbis, or XMMS?
[10:25] <geogeo> he asks me login&pass, and it doesn't work ?
[10:25] <danko123456> vigilanty: did you install any libs?
[10:25] <kro> vigilanty: esd
[10:25] <geogeo> (with my first user'login and pass)
[10:25] <khagen> geogeo: try the root pwd
[10:25] <vigilanty> lib ogg?
[10:25] <khagen> with the root user..
[10:25] <vigilanty> esd?
[10:25] <geogeo> I tried it
[10:25] <geogeo> :<
[10:25] <Fator_Dee> vigilanty: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[10:25] <vigilanty> yes i did.
[10:26] <rop10> Seveas, sorry for the newb question, i haven't used Ubuntu untill today... whats the command for opening /etc/apt/sources.list again?
[10:26] <danko123456> vigilanty: like... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:26] <kro> vigilanty: go to preferences, configure the output plugin to use esd
[10:26] <darkaudit> and mikmod if you have an nvidia card (for XMMS)
[10:26] <vigilanty> wait, no i didn't
[10:26] <khagen> geogeo: cups has a separate pam config, and does not use sudo.
[10:26] <Seveas> rop10, from a terminal type: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:26] <geogeo> oh..!
[10:26] <goldfish> rop10: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:26] <vigilanty> i have been reading the wiki...
[10:26] <rop10> thats it thanks
[10:26] <makkia> hello
[10:26] <geogeo> I have to add a new user to the group cups manage so ?
[10:27] <makkia> slapd in hoary is bugged ?
[10:27] <geogeo> cupsys
[10:27] <rop10> gimme a second sirs
[10:27] <vigilanty> now, mp3s should play in totem movie player right?
[10:27] <khagen> geogeo: activate the root account. $sudo passwd root
[10:27] <danko123456> vigilanty: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*
[10:27] <geogeo> yeah ?
[10:27] <khagen> geogeo: then try again with root and rootpass.
[10:27] <geogeo> ahha doesn't work
[10:27] <geogeo> i'm fucked !
[10:27] <rop10> posted now
[10:27] <vigilanty> it's workin
[10:27] <danko123456> URL?
[10:28] <danko123456> everyone thinks we magically have the URL...
[10:28] <khagen> geogeo: What doesn't work?
[10:28] <vigilanty> i did it thru synaptic, instead of apt-get.
[10:28] <danko123456> ok, great:)
[10:28] <geogeo> he reject root account
[10:28] <rop10> let me know if you have trouble getting to it
[10:28] <danko123456> excellent...
[10:28] <vigilanty> now, what app for movies?
[10:28] <khagen> sudo passwd
[10:28] <danko123456> same link...
[10:28] <Seveas> rop10, where did you paste it?
[10:28] <vigilanty> with as many codec compatabilities as possible?
[10:28] <mirak> I have reinstalled hoary, but now when I log in gnome, it immediately crashes once the desktop appears
[10:28] <geogeo> I just want to use a windows printer (shared with samba) with my laptop under linux
[10:28] <rop10> http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/283371
[10:29] <geogeo> vigilanty, check the wiki pages about audio and video, I'll give you the link
[10:29] <Seveas> ah, network isn't enabled yet
[10:29] <mirak> I created a new user, so gnome settings are fresh
[10:29] <vigilanty> well, I'll try myself...
[10:29] <khagen> try: System->Administration->Printing ..
[10:29] <rop10> network isn't enabled yet i can get on the web? >_<
[10:29] <Seveas> rop10, open the file again with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:29] <mirak> what should I do ?
[10:29] <vigilanty> thanks, but If i have further probs, I'll come back.
[10:29] <Seveas> rop10, i meant just for apt ;)
[10:30] <rop10> ah K, its open already
[10:30] <{Seb}> btw, i read somewhere that you could replace the gnome logo with a ubuntu one
[10:30] <vigilanty> oh btw,
[10:30] <{Seb}> i think it was on the forums but i can't find the post
[10:30] <khagen> geogeo: with your own pass.
[10:30] <{Seb}> i know the standard orange one is one the system
[10:30] <danko123456> vigilanty: what do you mean?
[10:30] <{Seb}> does anyone know where there is a small version of the blue ubuntu logo
[10:30] <danko123456> vigilanty: do you have MPlayer?
[10:30] <vigilanty> what's the terminal command for installing apps that are downloaded from websites directly?
[10:30] <vigilanty> mp3 player is working through totem now.
[10:30] <Seveas> rop10, on line 5, 6, 15, 16, 18 and 19 (the lines that start with deb) you remove the # at the beginning
[10:31] <khagen> vigilante: is it a .deb?
[10:31] <rop10> Seveas, K uncommenting now
[10:31] <Fator_Dee> vigilanty: dpkg -i debfilename
[10:31] <vigilanty> well, some will be i think.
[10:31] <vigilanty> what if it's a rpg?
[10:31] <aleksander> how can i install apache server on ubuntu?
[10:31] <danko123456> vigilanty: um, rather wget, I think.
[10:31] <geogeo> with my own pass khagen  ?
[10:31] <{Seb}> aleksander: sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:31] <franklin50> aleksander: sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:31] <rop10> checking now thanks
[10:31] <danko123456> rpwhat?
[10:32] <geogeo> but, with System admin....
[10:32] <vigilanty> so, lets say i install opera,
[10:32] <aleksander> ok, but how open i the command screen...
[10:32] <geogeo> I can't add my windows printer with samba
[10:32] <geogeo> it doesn't work
[10:32] <vigilanty> cd to the dir,
[10:32] <Seveas> rop10, then save it and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:32] <khagen> geogeo: from the menu: System->Administration->Printing width your wn pass.
[10:32] <vigilanty> and dpkg -i debfilename
[10:32] <vigilanty> ?
[10:32] <danko123456> aleksander: sudo apt-get install apache
[10:32] <khagen> geogeo: wn = own
[10:32] <geogeo> yeah, the printer works in local
[10:32] <aleksander> dankol123456: where?
[10:32] <geogeo> but not through smb
[10:32] <danko123456> well, is it a .deb?
[10:32] <danko123456> or from source? vigilanty
[10:32] <geogeo> so i'm not good at all :<
[10:32] <rop10> Seveas works great thank you for the help sir ^_^
[10:33] <dhashen> edit apt sources and now downloading via backports but its sloooooooooooooooowwwww!
[10:33] <danko123456> aleksander: apps>system tools
[10:33] <vigilanty> well, I'll at some point need to know all of the installation methods thru the terminal.
[10:33] <Seveas> rop10, you're welcome :)
[10:33] <aleksander> ok
[10:33] <danko123456> dhashen: installed:-p
[10:33] <danko123456> dhashen: where are the extensions, anyhow, teh ones  you ruin for .3?
[10:33] <aleksander> any one here who have msn on linux? (via ssh...)
[10:33] <danko123456> aleksander: OK!
[10:34] <danko123456> I use gaim for msn messenger
[10:34] <aleksander> dankol123456: norsk?
[10:34] <aleksander> speak norwegian
[10:34] <danko123456> nope, Im Hrvatska!!!
[10:34] <khagen> aleksander: never heard of a command-line msn client.. sorry
[10:34] <danko123456> seveas, nite.
[10:34] <aleksander> :P
[10:34] <dhashen> in firefox u goto tools menu, extentions and click for more
[10:34] <WebWiz> khagen: centericq does msn
[10:35] <selutha> what is the default sound system installed on ubuntu?
[10:35] <dcraven> aleksander: I think centericq does msn.. Have a look.
[10:35] <danko123456> and which ones?
[10:35] <khagen> selutha: alsa + esd
[10:35] <WebWiz> aleksander: yes it does,  msn, aim, irc, jab, yahoo, gg
[10:35] <danko123456> it doesnt let you to their website:p
[10:35] <selutha> thanks khagen bud having a problem he gets static when 2 sounds play
[10:36] <aleksander> webwiz: do you can explain how?
[10:36] <factorx> why isnt the kernel 2.6. source in my synaptic packages tree?
[10:36] <aleksander> i'm new on linux...
[10:36] <WebWiz> sure i'll msg you
[10:36] <aleksander> dankol....: where shall i write the apache tings...?
[10:36] <khagen> selutha: That'll be alsa I quess.
[10:36] <selutha> khagen, alsa causing static you think?
[10:37] <khagen> selutha: I think so, try tinkering around a bit with alsamixer (terminal program)
[10:37] <mirak> hi
[10:37] <mirak> I have just installed ubuntu
[10:38] <danko123456> aleksander: did you get a terminal open?
[10:38] <mirak> but when I log to gnome, once I am on the desktop, it crashes immedialty. It freezes in fact
[10:38] <danko123456> apps>system tools>terminal, type in "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apache" and press ebter.
[10:38] <user_> !list
[10:39] <Thirsteh> I haven't tried out Ubuntu yet, and have been using Mandrake/Gentoo for a long time. What makes Ubuntu so great that I should try it out?
[10:39] <selutha> khagen, ok i will tell him thanks. one more question anyone know if gnome is going to drop esd like kde is doing to arts?
[10:39] <Funraiser> mirak, laptop memory and cpu?
[10:39] <khagen> selutha: Don't know.
[10:39] <danko123456> vigilanty: did you install mplayer, watching movies yet?
[10:40] <selutha> khagen, ok thanks again
[10:40] <sjohnson> n00b question:  I get the superblock error when i try mounting with this in fstab:
[10:40] <sjohnson> /dev/sdb2 /home/sjohnson/sg reiserfs defaults,user,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[10:40] <factorx> why does the kernel-2.6.x source package not appear in my synaptic packages list?
[10:40] <sjohnson> but i can mount as root using "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /home/sjohnson/sg"
[10:40] <user_> quit
[10:40] <goldfish> user_: /quit
[10:41] <mirak> Funraiser: it's not a laptop. XP1800+ 1G ddr . I use ubuntu for six months now
[10:41] <mirak> I reinstalled
[10:41] <aleksander> how do i log in as root?
[10:41] <Thirsteh> Guess I shouldn't :D
[10:41] <sjohnson> aleksander: sudo passwd root
[10:41] <aleksander> password, username?
[10:41] <mirak> because I was on breezy, so I went back to hoary ^^
[10:41] <sjohnson> set your password
[10:41] <aleksander> ok
[10:41] <sjohnson> then type "su"
[10:41] <sjohnson> after you have set your password
[10:41] <sjohnson> and CTRL-D when you're done with the root terminal
[10:42] <vigilanty> danko123456, no i haven't
[10:42] <vigilanty> should that play all codecs though?
[10:42] <Funraiser> Thirsteh, it froze on breezy?
[10:42] <aleksander> how can i find my local ip adress?
[10:42] <rop10> seveas, so after thats complete how do i go about install hoary?
[10:42] <aleksander> "ip addr" ?
[10:42] <khagen> Thirsteh: It's debian based... ;-)
[10:42] <Funraiser> mirak, it froze on breezy?
[10:42] <organon> ifconfig
[10:42] <{Seb}> night all
[10:43] <mirak> Funraiser: no, it doesn't
[10:43] <aleksander> organon: ipconfig on linux?
[10:43] <organon> dunno, ive always udes ifconfig :O
[10:43] <rop10> Seveas, nevermind, sudo apt-get install kde works great
[10:43] <aleksander> is php included in apache2 ???
[10:43] <geogeo> fucking printer grrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:43] <organon> used*
[10:43] <khagen> geogeo: No luck still?
[10:44] <geogeo> I'm trying with System admin... printers
[10:44] <geogeo> but it doesn't work
[10:44] <organon> aleksander, sudo ifconfig and check "eth0"
[10:44] <aleksander> php on apache2 ?
[10:44] <geogeo> I created a special user on windows
[10:44] <geogeo> without password
[10:44] <organon> sudo apt-get install php4
[10:44] <aleksander> :P
[10:44] <geogeo> and the host is good, the name of the printer is good
[10:44] <aleksander> what does "sudo" ?
[10:44] <geogeo> it works in local..
[10:45] <organon> as su
[10:45] <aleksander> and without "sudo" ?
[10:45] <organon> gives u super user privileges
[10:45] <kutucape> helo all
[10:45] <organon> aka root :)
[10:45] <sjohnson> aleksander:  ifconfig
[10:45] <sjohnson> with an F
[10:45] <sjohnson> not p
[10:45] <organon> wanhaa! :)
[10:45] <organon> never mind
[10:46] <kutucape> ipconfig for windoze user :p
[10:46] <blake> hellow
[10:46] <vigilanty> I obviously don't have the correct things installed to play videos...  mplayer opens, then closes, and totem plays audio only.
[10:46] <danko123456> wraps the command with su privileges...
[10:46] <aleksander> brb
[10:46] <blake> what is a good p2p program
[10:47] <goldfish> limewire
[10:47] <blake> has alot of users on it
[10:47] <vigilanty> bittorent is good too.
[10:47] <mirak> help me
[10:47] <mirak> plz
[10:47] <mirak> :)
[10:47] <mirak> gnome crash immediately after I log in
[10:47] <blake> limewire is for lunnnix
[10:47] <blake> linux
[10:47] <vigilanty> video codec help, please?
[10:47] <Klaas> Hello everyone, Some days ago, i found some ubuntu cd's in my mailbox, thanks for giving them without paying to me. it's realy great (ubuntu), at the moment, i'm working on the live cd , its a hoary 5.04, i tried to install ubuntu on my hard drive but he can't dedect it ( it's a sata hard disk ), my setup is a P3 450mhz with 128 + 32 mb ram ( soon 512 ), creative l!ve sound blaster 5.1 / gf 4 mx 440  and a 3com network card.
[10:47] <Klaas> The problem is, when i boot from the install cd
[10:48] <kutucape> mirak, what's the error then
[10:48] <danko123456> mplayer, does it open, and when you play ckloses?
[10:48] <vigilanty> no
[10:48] <Klaas> everything goes automatic, that's okej, but when i reach the step of dedecting the hard drive
[10:48] <danko123456> then what?
[10:48] <rop10> Is there a safe way to stop a apt-get? I remember on Gentoo it would hurt it if you stopped mid emerge
[10:48] <vigilanty> well yes it does actually.
[10:48] <Klaas> it says he can't find one, becouse i have a sata hdd pluggen onto a sata PCI card
[10:48] <organon> ctrl+c should do the trick ;)
[10:48] <vigilanty> it says it's starting mplayer, then disappers.
[10:48] <Funraiser> vigilanty, try vlc
[10:48] <Klaas> how can I fix this, thanks
[10:48] <organon> "safe" :)
[10:49] <rop10> Organon, thank you sir
[10:49] <danko123456> vigilanty: try changing the output plugin, to esd, I did that, maybe not the same thing, though.
[10:49] <ola_> got a problem when changing to warty. x fails to start. some unmet dependencies. try to fix with apt-get -f install, but recieve errors
[10:49] <mirak> kutucape: I don't know, it freezes
[10:49] <Darksun> Hmm, I think the battery monitor might be broke, it's been showing 97% for hours
[10:49] <vigilanty> esd?
[10:49] <ola_> can anyone help?
[10:49] <organon> np br0
[10:49] <Darksun> Or maybe my battery is broke and can't fully charge >_<
[10:49] <Klaas> no, i'm new to this
[10:49] <danko123456> ola_: removed backports before upgrading?
[10:49] <rop10> Anyone have any reason to use Ubuntu instead of Gentoo?
[10:52] <Funraiser> yeah i think this channel should be divided in ubuntu-sound, ubuntu-graphics , ubuntu-etc
[10:52] <Fator_Dee> kutucape: I use it
[10:53] <kutucape> i just want to know how good it is
[10:53] <darkaudit> kutucape: and I
[10:53] <Fator_Dee> it's good, I got nothing to complaint
[10:53] <Marble2> Funraiser: nah, it's nice to have a catch-all channel, diving it would just confused newbies who just wanted to fix a small problem
[10:53] <organon> btw, where are u from guys (well, girls too :))?
[10:53] <Klaas> Can anyone help me installing ubuntu on a pc with a sata controller? ( the only hdd is on that controller ) and the installer does not dedect it
[10:53] <danko123456> all the girls:)
[10:53] <kutucape> Fator_Dee, well it seems that I will have the same too :D
[10:53] <Funraiser> France
[10:53] <organon> hehe
[10:53] <goldfish> organon: Everywhere !
[10:54] <goldfish> Ireland here.
[10:54] <Klaas> Belgium over here
[10:54] <Deft> England, Southampton at the moment
[10:54] <blake> does anyone know how to enamle the installing of rpms???
[10:54] <kutucape> Indonesia over here :D
[10:54] <organon> finland
[10:54] <darkaudit> West (by God) Virginia here :)
[10:54] <geogeo> France
[10:54] <geogeo> \o/
[10:54] <kutucape> i'm from asia ^_^
[10:54] <Klaas> belgium, ieper, where World War One stopped :D
[10:54] <Funraiser> blake, there is an app called alien, but it doesn't work well
[10:54] <goldfish> blake: 'alien blah.rpm'
[10:54] <goldfish> blake: will make a .deb
[10:54] <Klaas> geogeo, bonjour ;) commect cava?
[10:54] <aleksander> back
[10:54] <kutucape> it's good that ubuntu ship many languages on gnome
[10:55] <geogeo> la peche.
[10:55] <Klaas> :d
[10:55] <Marble2> blake, we use deb files
[10:55] <Marble2> you can use alien though
[10:55] <organon> bon voyage
[10:55] <blake> deb
[10:55] <organon> :)
[10:55] <geogeo> ahah
[10:55] <Marble2> I'm from Minnesota
[10:55] <Klaas> brb guys
[10:55] <kutucape> wait, i want to switch with xfce ^_^
[10:55] <Klaas> gotta make a toilet stop x)
[10:55] <darkaudit> kutucape: switch what?
[10:56] <Deft> that was a little more information than we needed to know there Klaas...
[10:56] <kutucape> i'm currently use gnome..
[10:56] <organon> another WM
[10:56] <kutucape> so i want to try using xfce...
[10:56] <Funraiser> lol
[10:56] <aleksander> how to use msn via ssh?
[10:56] <kutucape> brb guys
[10:56] <organon> isnt it xfce4?
[10:56] <aleksander> webzeb here?
[10:56] <Funraiser> what ssh again?
[10:56] <Funraiser> what's*
[10:56] <ben__> does ubuntu come with a webserver?
[10:56] <darkaudit> organon: yep
[10:57] <ben__> Secure SHell
[10:57] <danko123456> rlogin
[10:57] <geogeo> msn via ssh ?
[10:57] <organon> what if you connect via ssh and then start screen and run e.g. centericq in screen
[10:57] <karljp> what do I need to do in order to umount my swap partition?
[10:57] <organon> should do the trick
[10:57] <sjohnson> why the fuck can i mount something using the mount command it won't work in fstab!!!!!!!!
[10:57] <karljp> I want to remake it elsewhere
[10:57] <sjohnson> :(
[10:57] <aleksander> msn in ssh...
[10:57] <danko123456> sjohnson: frustrated, eh?
[10:57] <geogeo> ah =]
[10:57] <Deft> has anyone tried using xchat-gnome; the gnome-ish xchat interface thing?
[10:57] <ben__> how can i get a webserver on my ubbuntu using apt-get ?
[10:57] <Deft> sjohnson, what's the issue?
[10:57] <organon> in irssi we trust
[10:58] <Deft> ben__, apache2 is in the archives
[10:58] <Marble2> sjohnson: run it as sudo
[10:58] <aleksander> private geogeo
[10:58] <aleksander> how to start private chat?
[10:58] <geogeo> I started it
[10:58] <danko123456> sjohnson: are you sure the hard drive is where you think it is, sudo fdisk -l ?
[10:58] <geogeo> U've got irssi ?
[10:58] <geogeo> CTRL + 1...2..3..4...
[10:59] <goldfish> alt
[10:59] <Funraiser> aleksander, right click the name on x-chat
[10:59] <sjohnson> hey dudes, thanks for helping
[10:59] <sjohnson> i'll tell you the problem here
[10:59] <sjohnson> /dev/sdb2       /mnt    reiserfs        rw,user,uid=gid=1000,owner=sjohnsonerrors=remount-ro 0       1
[10:59] <sjohnson> gets the badsuperblock error, wrong fs type, etc error
[10:59] <kutucape> hei all
[11:00] <sjohnson> but if i do "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt" works fine
[11:00] <blake> how do i run alien
[11:00] <Marble2> your swap is reiserfs?
[11:00] <sjohnson> and i found out later it used "reiserfs"
[11:00] <Deft> sjohnson, you have a comma missing it that's the real line
[11:00] <darkaudit> sjohnson: are you getting errors about a SATA drive @ boot?
[11:00] <Marble2> blake: alien blah.rpm
[11:00] <sjohnson> darkaudit: no
[11:00] <kutucape> i adminitted that xfce is so d*mn beatifull :D
[11:00] <blake> in terminal
[11:00] <blake> ?
[11:00] <organon> what about fluxbox? :o
[11:00] <sjohnson> k let me try this
[11:00] <Marble2> blake: yea
[11:00] <darkaudit> sjohnson: ok...
[11:00] <sjohnson> thanks Deft
[11:00] <aleksander> any one who know why i not can log on root on this screen?
[11:00] <Funraiser> blake, just type alien in a terminal plus the name of the rpm file, but most likely it's not gonna work anyway
[11:01] <blake> blah = filename
[11:01] <kutucape> organon, fluxbux is too simple
[11:01] <darkaudit> organon: I was using fluxbox for a long time... then I tried XFCE :)
[11:01] <sjohnson> /dev/sdb2       /mnt    reiserfs        defaults,user=sjohnson,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[11:01] <sjohnson> it's now this... but it now complains that i have to be root
[11:01] <organon> well' i've tried 'em both too
[11:01] <Deft> ion2 is the pretty special if it's set up right
[11:01] <sjohnson> fuuuuck
[11:01] <organon> havent chosen my side yet ;)
[11:01] <sjohnson> sorry for the swear words if it's offending someone
[11:01] <Funraiser> sjohnson, sudo then
[11:02] <sjohnson> my goal is to make it so i don't have to be root to mount this, i want to be ME
[11:02] <danko123456> haha, frustration.
[11:02] <Deft> sjohnson, you'll need a user or users option then
[11:02] <darkaudit> organon: with now the biggest holy war I'm involved in is to yEnc or not to yEnc...
[11:02] <sjohnson> it will work if i take out the "=sjohnson" but in this line...
[11:02] <Klaas> bye @ all
[11:02] <darkaudit> most linux users don't have that issue :)
[11:02] <sjohnson> /dev/hda on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=sjohnson)
[11:02] <Funraiser> yEnc!
[11:02] <sjohnson> my CDROM drive works FINE with user=sjohnson
[11:02] <organon> yEnc? sry, doesn't ring a bell
[11:02] <sjohnson> this is driving me insane!!!!!!!!!1
[11:03] <Marble2> sjohnson: it has to be set up correctly in fstab for you to be able to mount it
[11:03] <Funraiser> yEnc in peace, nothing to worry about
[11:03] <sjohnson> Marble2: i know, that's what im trying to figure out
[11:03] <Marble2> your swap partition?
[11:03] <Marble2> pm me
[11:03] <darkaudit> organon: encoding format for USENET binaries... Outlook Express doesn't support it, and ppl have a fit when you use it
[11:04] <organon> right on, googeling as we speak
[11:04] <danko123456> Klaas: cya
[11:04] <darkaudit> and my apologies for invoking OE :)
[11:04] <Deft> sjohnson, a typical options line would be just defaults,user, that normally does the trick unless you have somethin odd going on
[11:04] <Funraiser> outlook is a news graber?
[11:05] <darkaudit> Funraiser: OE does mail and usenet... neither very well, but too many ppl don't bother to use anything proper
[11:05] <Funraiser> darkaudit, well many people use grabit now for NGs
[11:06] <blake> funraiser
[11:06] <Funraiser> darkaudit, i mean for downloading "files"
[11:06] <Funraiser> yes?
[11:06] <aleksander> how to logon root?
[11:06] <blake> funraiser: i typed it and now it's a blank line below
[11:06] <darkaudit> Funraiser: I haven't tried grabit... I use Pan
[11:07] <IIIEars> Hi! - What is the "Session" program called?
[11:07] <blake> funraiser: id said it worked
[11:07] <IIIEars> what do the numbers mean for a program i add to start up/
[11:08] <Funraiser> darkaudit, well there is no grabit for linux, and Pan uses a lot of memory, i've heard nget works
[11:08] <Funraiser> well
[11:08] <Funraiser> blake, the alien thing?
[11:08] <blake> funraiser: id said it worked
[11:08] <blake> yeas
[11:08] <Funraiser> blake, try to launch it to see
[11:08] <blake> how
[11:08] <blake> :P?
[11:08] <Funraiser> what did u convert?
[11:08] <darkaudit> Funraiser: pan is back in development... they're working on lightening the memory load...
[11:08] <blake> a file on my desktop
[11:08] <Andril> hello all again -
[11:09] <Funraiser> darkaudit, it's about time
[11:09] <blake> funraiser: this is what it said
[11:09] <Funraiser> k
[11:09] <blake> root@LittleWhiteBox:/home/blake # alien /home/blake/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm limewire-free_4.8.1-1_i386.deb generated
[11:09] <blake> root@LittleWhiteBox:/home/blake #
[11:09] <karim_> I am back
[11:09] <karim_> gnome freezes
[11:10] <Andril> advice to all - stay away from "autopackage" till they are complete http://autopackage.org/
[11:10] <karim_> but it's kernel crash
[11:10] <IIIEars> What does the number 50  mean alongside a start up program in "Sessions"?
[11:10] <karim_> with 2.6.11
[11:10] <Andril> Good concept/Bad config
[11:10] <karim_> the back trace isn't very talkative
[11:11] <IIIEars> What other numbers can be used?
[11:11] <Funraiser> blake, do u know there is amule for linux?
[11:11] <darkaudit> Funraiser: yes there is... in universe IIRC
[11:12] <ola_> h3ello people! I am unable to correct dependencies. upgraded recently to hoary and X won't start. ...perl-base...version...will be installed.. I try install -f, and it seems to work, (...16MEGS will be used? Y) and then error while processing perl-base
[11:12] <organon> speaking of compiling.. have you tried gentoo?
[11:12] <Funraiser> blake, now u can try to install it
[11:12] <IIIEars> is this where a new Ubuntu user can ask questions?
[11:12] <dabaSlon_schl> IIIEars: :)
[11:12] <darkaudit> organon: very briefly... never got it installed...
[11:12] <blake> do i need to extract it first
[11:12] <Deft> IIIEars, yes!
[11:13] <IIIEars> Hello dabaSlon :)
[11:13] <Funraiser> dpkg -i nameofyourfilecreated.deb
[11:13] <organon> darkaudit, u should try again :)
[11:13] <dabaSlon_schl> yo, im away
[11:13] <ola_> is it possible to downgrade to warty?
[11:13] <Funraiser> blake, no, type that where the file is
[11:13] <Deft> ola_, not really
[11:13] <organon> i got it working on the second time :)