[03:28] <Unit193> Svpernova09: Howdy, but guessing it's just a reconnect and you aren't actually there either.
[03:29] <Svpernova09> o/
[03:29] <Svpernova09> Chasing down a WP issue causing server probs
[03:29] <Unit193> Oh fun.  Just updated Wordpress to .6 today.
[03:38] <Svpernova09> Yeah, I'm getting slammed on one of mine, looks like someone is trying to add users
[03:39] <Unit193> Lovely...
[03:39] <Unit193> Not me.
[03:39] <Svpernova09> http://pastebin.com/StaT3Rum
[03:39] <Svpernova09> that's what's running through error_log contantly
[03:40] <Svpernova09> CPU hits 100%, ram hits 100%
[03:40] <Unit193> Greeeat.
[03:40] <Svpernova09> Yeah :/
[03:56] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: this on the ubuntu-tennessee.org site too?
[03:57] <Svpernova09> No, that site looks unaffected
[03:57] <Svpernova09> Apparently whatever the botnet was out there brute forcing wp-login.php urls has found midsouthmakers.org
[03:58] <Svpernova09> Looks like I have a fix for now.
[03:58] <Svpernova09> So I'll add that fix to ubuntu-tennessee.org as well
[04:29] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: midsouthmakers.org, another good one :-/
[04:29] <Svpernova09> yeah, that was the target, looks like I've fixed the issue until they start using the correct referrers
[04:30] <cyberanger> until....oh boy, just a drive by today, but that'd be an easy referrer to guess if I recall
[04:31] <cyberanger> let's hope they don't wise up
[12:46] <Omnifrog> hahahahaha    http://www.avclub.com/articles/one-direction-fans-bravely-vanquish-some-old-band,101691/
[12:47] <wrst> ha ha Omnifrog
[12:53] <wrst> had to go watch some the who vids on youtube to get the one direction taste out of my mouth


[00:02] <asac> fta: by hal?
[00:02] <asac> fta: what is the device name in the /dev hierarchy?
[00:02] <fta> yes
[00:02] <asac> ttyUSB0?
[00:03] <fta> yes, 1st try, then 1, 2, ...
[00:03] <asac> fta: so lets say thats it ... then please disconnect from network (maybe stopi NM) and run:
[00:03] <asac> /lib/udev/nm-modem-probe --verbose --export /sys/class/tty/ttyUSB0
[00:07] <fta> asac, it fails with error 21
[00:07] <fta> fails on open()
[00:07] <asac> fta: that means its still locked from NM or ppp or in kernel or so
[00:07] <asac> fta: you really need to stop everytihng to be safe
[00:08] <asac> e.g. i get that error when my modem is in use
[00:08] <asac> probably means resource not available or something
[00:08] <asac> fta: osrry ;)
[00:08] <fta> hm, interesting, will i killed nm, the kernel says it disconnected ttyUSB0 and 1, while the last that I used was 2
[00:08] <asac> fta: /dev/ttyUSB0 ;)
[00:08] <asac> no the sysfs thing
[00:09] <fta> -will+when
[00:09] <asac> yeah. try the /dev/ devices you have
[00:09] <fta> in /sys/class/tty/ttyUS*, i just have 2 and 3
[00:10] <fta> both fail on open with code 21
[00:10] <asac> fta: /dev please ;)
[00:10] <asac> fta: not /sys
[00:10] <asac> e.g. /dev/ttyUSB0
[00:10] <fta> same, just 2 and 3 in /dev/ttyUS*
[00:11] <asac> fta: yes. but run the proper agsinst that
[00:11] <fta> better
[00:11] <asac> /lib/udev/nm-modem-probe --verbose --export /dev/ttyUSB2
[00:11] <asac> and USB1
[00:11] <asac> try both
[00:11] <asac> err USB3
[00:11] <asac> fta: please paste the output
[00:12] <fta> hm, 3 was very verbose once, but now, just a few lines
[00:13] <asac> fta: just paste everything ;)
[00:16] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/129014/
[00:18] <asac> fta: yeah. NM should have detected your ttyUSB2 through udev then
[00:18] <asac> bit strange
[00:18] <asac> maybe some bustage
[00:19] <asac> fta: maybe keep your eyes open if that happens randomly (e.g. sometimes "detected through udev" and sometimes "detected through hal")
[00:19] <asac> fta: thats a huawai usb thing with "option" driver, right?
[00:20] <asac> fta: oh shit. all fine
[00:21] <asac> fta: i forgot the "prefer" hal patch and seems i uploaded that ;)
[00:21] <asac> hmm or maybe not
[00:21] <asac> let me g
[00:21] <asac> grab latest from bzr
[00:21] <asac> hmm ... no i dont
[00:22] <fta> i have your nm ppa enabled
[00:22] <asac> fta: what version for network-manager package?
[00:23] <fta> 0.7.1~rc3
[00:23] <fta> -0u1
[00:23] <asac> thats ok ... main arcihve thing
[00:23] <asac> fta: so yes. please next time when you boot or something if its always that way ;) ... or maybe just on replugging and so on.
[00:24] <asac> usually if the proper succeeds it should get detected by udev
[00:24] <fta> i grepped my logs, always hal
[00:24] <asac> fta: its new
[00:24] <asac> e.g. since rc3
[00:25] <asac> so before it was always hal
[00:25] <fta> so still hal here
[00:25] <fta> the thing is, i don't use it everyday, mostly during w-e when i'm away
[00:27] <fta> i will try to unlock my other sim in xp using qemu
[00:27] <asac> hmm
[00:28] <asac> fta: what do you have in /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules
[00:28] <asac> ?
[00:28] <fta> it's the one that i don't have to pay for
[00:28] <asac> fta: have you tried to restart NM?
[00:28] <asac> e.g. without replugging the device?
[00:29] <fta> i had to, to pastebin your stuff, i restarted nm and replugged my wire
[00:29] <asac> fta: and it detected the key with hal again?
[00:29] <asac> or did you remove the device?
[00:30] <asac> btw, you can stay on wired ;)
[00:30] <asac> at least until you try to restart NM you can just keep using wired to try broadband connecgt
[00:30] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/129018/
[00:31] <asac> fta: you could try to increase the delay to 5 seconds or something
[00:31] <asac> 2 seconds is quite tight and might not be true on all systems
[00:31] <asac> but that shouldnt matter on restarting NM ... only when you plug in your device
[00:31] <asac> hmm
[00:32] <fta> in the n-m applet, i have 3 entries now (even after i restarted n-m)
[00:33] <asac> sounds like a hal bug.
[00:33] <asac> restart hal ... restart NM ;)
[00:33] <asac> in that order
[00:35] <fta> restart hal -> nm died, restart nm -> good, 1 GSM
[00:38] <asac> ok. i will think about it. teaking the delay in the udev .rules file from above might be another way
[00:38] <asac> but well.
[00:40] <fta> as least, i can deco/reco without rebooting, unlike ~10 days ago
[00:42] <fta> looks like n-m is not releasing the device, after the unplug, so hal keeps it too, and when n-m dies, hal has no reason to rescan that
[00:47] <asac> i dont think its that simple ... but i wont rule out that the device is not properly released
[00:48] <asac> anyway ... i have to sleep now ;) ... cu tomorrow
[00:49] <fta> well, at least, the kernel logs seems to indicate that
[00:49] <fta> yeah, cu, i seriously need some sleep to
[08:24] <gnomefreak> sunbird 0.9 intrepid hardy are uploaded and ready for testing :)
[08:24] <gnomefreak> debian 492837
[08:34] <gnomefreak> asac: did you get iceowl 0.9 in Debian yet?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Who is the upstream devs for liferea? Mozilla? Gnome? show doesnt give me anything about upstream
[09:10] <gnomefreak> asac: i was refering to debian 500647
[09:11] <asac> one second
[09:11] <asac> i have lost my window decorations
[09:11] <asac> have to fix that first
[09:11] <asac> otherwise the chatwindow stays at almost zero size
[09:16]  * gnomefreak not in hrry for much of anything today
[09:16] <gnomefreak> hurry even
[09:17] <asac> gnomefreak: iceowl 0.9 is in experimental isnt it?
[09:17] <gnomefreak> dont know i dont have debian system anymore
[09:39] <gnomefreak> bug 339772
[09:47] <asac> gnomefreak: so i didnt really get whats the problem with the new upstrema verison?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> asac: upstream version?
[09:52] <asac> gnomefreak: 3.1 vs. 3.5
[09:52] <asac> gnomefreak: we got mails on our mailing list
[09:52] <asac> about that from dev-planning
[09:54] <gnomefreak> the problem is that we need to update how we receive the sources dont we?
[11:08] <gnomefreak> i miss my buttons (home, back, refreash, forward) in 3.1
[11:14] <asac> gnomefreak: extensions=
[11:14] <gnomefreak> nope
[11:14] <asac> gnomefreak: i dont think there is a problem with the version change upstream
[11:14] <asac> gnomefreak: its something we have to accept that we have to transition if we pick some prospective version during alphas
[11:14] <gnomefreak> asac: i get them right after upgrade than they go away
[11:15] <asac> gnomefreak: yes. that sounds like an extension thing
[11:15] <asac> gnomefreak: disable all
[11:15] <gnomefreak> asac: ill try again
[11:16] <gnomefreak> asac: would be nice if addons opened
[11:19] <gnomefreak> asac: nope still same i will try a few more things and let you know
[11:22] <gnomefreak> asac: nope safe mode didnt help either nor did new profile
[11:23] <gnomefreak> asac: 3.1~b4~hg20090308r23700+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1  its been like this for over a week
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ill be back in a bit
[11:30] <asac> gnomefreak: strange .. i dont have that issue
[11:46] <gnomefreak> asac: i'm guessing any change to firefox applies to abrowser right?
[11:46] <asac> gnomefreak: usually yes. do you use abrowser 3.1 b4*
[11:46] <asac> ?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> asac: yep
[11:46] <asac> gnomefreak: does the problem go away if you use ffox-branding?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> asac: ill check
[11:50] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[11:51] <gnomefreak> asac: i installed firefox-3.1-branding nothing changed other than removing abrowser. still no buttons
[11:51] <asac> gnomefreak: hmm
[11:52] <gnomefreak> asac: are you using the umd build?
[11:52] <asac> yes
[11:52] <asac> let me start it now
[11:53] <gnomefreak> asac: does your help>about work? mine foesnt nor do i have buttons (just vertical lines than navigate back forward ....)
[11:54] <asac> gnomefreak: disable ubufox
[11:54] <gnomefreak> asac: cant
[11:54] <asac> gnomefreak: i could reproduce with ubufox enabled
[11:54] <gnomefreak> asac: that would mean tools>addons needs to work
[11:54] <asac> gnomefreak: cant? .. with ubufox the back/forward buttons are always greyed out
[11:54] <gnomefreak> and it doesnt
[11:55] <gnomefreak> i could uninstall it but i have this feeling it would take out alot of other things
[11:55] <gnomefreak> asac: im removing it
[11:55] <asac> yeah try that
[11:58] <gnomefreak> asac: nope
[12:00] <gnomefreak> asac: renaming ~/.mozilla failed to help
[12:02] <asac> gnomefreak: not sure whats up with you. i see the issue with ubufox
[12:02] <asac> fta: the compare target spits out stuff for ffox 3.1
[12:02] <asac> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23613967/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.firefox-3.1_3.1~b4~hg20090308r23700%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[12:03] <gnomefreak> asac: is that in a chroot/pbuilder?
[12:04] <asac> gnomefreak: thats in ppa
[12:04] <gnomefreak> ah reading now
[12:06] <gnomefreak> nothing here helps maybe removing ubufox didnt remove it from addons?
[12:06] <asac> fta: any clue why all the xulrunner stuff is back there?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> but renaming ~/.mozilla should have disabled ubufox
[12:07] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe you have it in your profile?
[12:07] <asac> gnomefreak: well. uninstall + renaming definitly should
[12:07] <asac> gnomefreak: check that firefox is really stopped when you start it
[12:07] <asac> e.g. killall firefox-3.1
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ok wtf
[12:08] <gnomefreak> is 3.1 not dying on shutdown?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> killing it worked
[12:09] <asac> gnomefreak: heh ;)
[12:09] <asac> gnomefreak: it dies on shutdown
[12:09] <asac> gnomefreak: but if you uninstall ubufox and dont stop it, ubufox will still be used
[12:09] <gnomefreak> that is the issue see below
[12:09] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~$ ps aux | grep firefox-3.1
[12:09] <gnomefreak> 1000     18122  0.0  0.2   2076   580 pts/1    S+   08:09   0:00 grep firefox-3.1
[12:09] <gnomefreak> browser is closed
[12:10] <gnomefreak> ubufox is still runnign and i dont have it installed
[12:11] <gnomefreak> ubufox was the problem with the tools>addons as welll. so if i install it again i wont beable to get into addons to disable it
[12:12] <gnomefreak> killing it with or without browser open fails to kill it
[12:15] <asac> gnomefreak: thats interesting
[12:15] <asac> let me check if i have a different ubufox version (maybe in my profile)
[12:15] <asac> gnomefreak: no i have  ~b1
[12:15] <gnomefreak> 0.7~b1-0ubuntu1
[12:16] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. do you use disable extensoin check?
[12:16] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe it an accumulated thing that gets worse by using more extensions
[12:16] <gnomefreak> asac: what do you mean? tools>addons?
[12:16] <asac> gnomefreak: i dont mean anything
[12:17] <asac> gnomefreak: if you have disabled extension compatibility check that calls for trouble
[12:17] <asac> otherwise i dont understand why your behaviour is different than mine
[12:17] <asac> but i have to look because its definitly broken
[12:17] <asac> so for now dont use ubufox with 3.1
[12:18] <gnomefreak> well it works now like it should with ubufox gone everything works now but for some reason pa sux and ps aux | grep ubufox show different
[12:18] <gnomefreak> asac: i cant disable it after installing it so it will stay gone
[12:20] <gnomefreak> the help>about is only screwed up in abrowser not firefox-3.1-branding
[12:20] <asac> gnomefreak: how is it screwed? also without ubufox?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Location: chrome://browser/content/aboutDialog.xul
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Line Number 40, Column 9:        &logoCopyright;
[12:21] <gnomefreak> --------^
[12:21] <asac> ok
[12:21] <asac> ok
[12:22] <asac> i will investigate the abroawser thing and ubufox for 3.1 asap
[12:22] <asac> for now just keep ubufox disabled
[12:22] <gnomefreak> i will. thanks
[12:23]  * gnomefreak has a few things to take care of so browser isnt important at this time
[12:29] <gnomefreak> if i get done with SM-2 today ill work on lightning-sunbird bugs see if i cnt clean them up.
[12:30]  * gnomefreak off while i start the build and hope fsh patch doesnt fail, i dont want to run autoconf :(
[12:33] <gnomefreak> james_w: if your around can you give me a hint on what im doing wrong? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/631537 asac fta2 feel free to give me hint too
[12:33] <gnomefreak> it should not run ./debian/rules get-orig-source
[12:34] <gnomefreak> tarball is in tarballs dir
[12:38] <asac> gnomefreak: put the tarball in the toplevel dir
[12:38] <asac> imo thats a regression
[12:38] <asac> not sure why james_w changes back and forward ;) ... i hope we get some stable stuff at some point
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ill try. this is bzr builddeb bug right?
[12:39] <asac> gnomefreak: in ~/.bazaar/builddeb.conf i have:
[12:39] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f644e3201
[12:39] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^
[12:39] <asac> that helps you to get back to normal behaviour
[12:41] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks
[12:42] <gnomefreak> asac: i guess i have to make that file
[12:43] <asac> yes
[12:44] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks it works now
[12:48] <asac> welcome
[13:27] <asac> jtv: please dont sent me translation mails after uploads ;)
[13:28] <asac> jtv: otherwise we will all create a promail bounce that accidentially redirects to you ;)
[13:28] <asac> just kidding
[13:28] <jtv> asac: it's only a tiiiiiny fraction of what we were getting in your place :-P
[13:29] <jtv> asac: danilo's working on a cherrypick to stem the flood.
[13:29] <jtv> asac: that said, my jet lag finally kicked in and my brain's not working.  Talk to Danilo if you want sensible answers.
[13:29] <asac> jtv: ok. sleep well ;)
[13:30] <jtv> asac: zzz
[13:30] <jtv> asac: Left Friday night, arrived Sunday nightzzzz
[13:33] <asac> jtv: you should stop travelling
[13:33] <asac> jtv: its the same as in real life: one sprint helps you to get quicker from a to B
[13:33] <asac> but many sprints just slows down stuff because one is too exhausted
[13:35] <jtv> asac: yeah… I did get to see New Zealand though!  (It was halfway on my last trip)
[13:40] <asac> jtv: ok. did you take a day or two off afterwards?
[13:40] <jtv> asac: yesterday
[13:41] <asac> jtv: but that was back in bangkok right? i ment if you took a day off to visit NZ ;)
[13:41] <jtv> asac: didn't take a day off to visit NZ, just had a few hours there between flights
[13:41] <asac> lol
[13:41] <asac> thats how it is ;)
[13:41] <jtv> asac: two days ago I took a bus to Mount Eden and walked up all the way to the summit…  that was like a little vacation all by itself
[13:42] <jtv> asac: taking the Sunday off would have been complicated.  :-)
[13:46] <asac> jtv: mount eden. that sounds like paradis
[13:46] <asac> e
[13:46] <jtv> asac: looks like it too, but it was named after…  IIRC it was the family name (before his peerage) of the old mentor of the first governor there.
[13:47] <jtv> You know how the British like to change their last names to confuse everyone
[17:22] <gnomefreak> i really hate bounced builds
[17:34] <asac> gnomefreak: wh?
[17:34] <gnomefreak> asac: it didnt bounce. i guess upload failed. Sm 2 intrepid
[17:35] <gnomefreak> jaunty uploaded built fine
[17:36] <gnomefreak> asac: how hard is it to add support for dev. releases in mozilla-devscripts?
[17:37] <asac> gnomefreak: if you hav ethe same orig already in for jaunty just build using -sd
[17:37] <asac> so you ust upload diff.gz and .dsc
[17:37] <gnomefreak> makes it faster that way :)
[17:45]  * gnomefreak found a way around the firefox-3.1 not showing buttons, just have to try it first. If you patch this issue you might want to add it to 3.0 to get rid of those "firefox is still running" errors
[18:13] <gnomefreak> asac: i pushed again and in terminal said it uploaded so i better get either a good email or bad one
[18:13] <asac> gnomefreak: you have to remove the .upload files first
[18:13] <asac> if you already uploaded same version
[18:13] <asac> otherwise try to use better version
[18:14] <asac> ok. preparing myself to get off-ramp for tonight
[18:15] <gnomefreak> asac:  i used the -sd switch
[18:16] <gnomefreak> asac: before you go is Jaunty going to support fingerprint scan?
[18:17] <asac> gnomefreak: good question. not sure.
[18:17] <asac> not sure if there are drivers
[18:17] <asac> if so, its a probably a pam thing or gdm
[18:18] <gnomefreak> pam most likely (assuming support for all DE well atleast the big 3
[18:18] <gnomefreak> )
[18:31] <gnomefreak> ok lets see if i cant work out this icon crap
[18:54] <fta> asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds lol, mozilla ownz the build farm!
[19:59]  * gnomefreak rebuilds for intrepid. i dont get FTB but PPA does ill try again
[20:04] <gnomefreak> fta: how much work would it take to update m-d for sunbird 1.x its pre release. is it something as simple as changing a few settings or new code (config file, ect..)
[20:07] <fta> just a .conf file inside the package, no need to touch m-d at all
[20:38] <asac> fta: yeah. maybe we should send up dailies in steps .... like every 2 hours a different package ;)
[20:40] <gnomefreak> please tell me its not in cdbs-rules
[20:41] <gnomefreak> looks like it would be the one :( the /cdbs-rules/debhelper.mk
[20:41] <fta> gnomefreak, what are you talking about?
[20:42] <asac> i think he wants to enable sunbird to use mozclient for orig rules
[20:42] <gnomefreak> fta: the config file from comment above
[20:43] <gnomefreak> those are all install rules it looks like
[20:43] <fta> gnomefreak, no, take a branch with a debian/mozclient/ dir as an example
[20:44] <fta> ff3.1 or tb3
[20:44] <gnomefreak> k
[20:44] <fta> it's also documented in the README of m-d
[20:57] <fta> 1064  firefox-3.0<PHONE_NUMBER>1<PHONE_NUMBER>0    34 (Alexander Sack)
[20:57] <fta> 9680  cxchromium                      2960   356  2392   158    54 (Unknown)
[20:57] <fta> 12747 firefox-3.1                     1522   186   673   663     0 (Unknown)
[20:57] <fta> 17276 gwibber                          747    97   280   370     0 (Unknown)
[20:57] <fta> 24259 firefox-3.2                      253    28    57   168     0 (Unknown)
[20:57] <fta> 30246 chromium-browser                 108     6     0   102     0 (Unknown)
[20:57] <fta> cxchromium is popular :P
[20:59] <asac> what is cxchromium?
[20:59] <fta> win32 chromium runinning with codeweaver / wine
[21:00] <fta> -ni
[21:03] <fta> 21591 thunderbird-3.0                  377    48   212   117     0 (Unknown)
[21:19] <gnomefreak> ok im gone. made changes to rules and control but i need to look at rules closer it looks like the DEBIAN_VERSION and freinds are maxed out at 0.9 but my sed has gotten left behind
[21:28] <gnomefreak> the lines with sed -n 's/^Version: \([0-9.]*\).*$$/\1/ p')   if i remember my sed right it is upto and including 0.9
[21:31] <fta> it grabs all numbers and dots. so it could match 0.9, 1.0, <IP_ADDRESS>.5 but not 0.9-1
[21:32] <fta> well, given 0.9-1, it will return 0.9
[21:36] <gnomefreak> well its not grabbing the 1.9 branch at all i tried with DEBIAN_DATE and ./debian/rules get-orig-source DEBIAN_BRANCH_MOZILLA_1_9_BRANCH neither are working
[21:37] <gnomefreak> rules i added include /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/lightning-sunbird.mk and control just the build-dep
[21:40] <fta> please pastebin what you do & get
[21:42] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/631615
[21:42] <gnomefreak> forgot the date one
[21:43] <gnomefreak> nope its there just jumbled in the other shit
[21:43] <fta> 1st line is wronge, DEBIAN_BRANCH_MOZILLA_1_9_BRANCH => DEBIAN_BRANCH=MOZILLA_1_9_BRANCH
[21:43] <fta> wrong
[21:44] <gnomefreak> ok let me try real fast
[21:46] <gnomefreak> im assuming i cant use ranch and date in same command so i would need to know exact version to add to changelog first
[21:47] <gnomefreak> s/ranch/branch
[21:47] <fta> you should be able to do that
[21:48] <gnomefreak> fta: heres the output of them http://pastebin.mozilla.org/631616
[21:51] <gnomefreak> from the README.gz it tells me to add to rules and control however in the README lightning-sunbird only has 1.8 branch does that matter?
[21:52] <gnomefreak> brb smoke and think
[21:57] <gnomefreak> k
[21:58] <gnomefreak> i dont have source im just going on what reambe says
[23:12] <asac> fta: so what was on my list from your side? primssm ... something else?
[23:13] <fta> prism, yeah.
[23:14] <fta> i wouldn't mind some hints to prevent my 3G SIMs from locking themselves
[23:14] <fta> -locking themselves+becoming unusable on ubuntu
[23:25] <asac_> fta: reconnect
[23:25] <asac_> 00:14 < fta> -locking themselves+becoming unusable on ubuntu
[23:25] <asac_> 00:21 < asac> fta: i have no clue, because o dont even understand whta kind of locking that is
[23:26] <asac_> 00:24 < asac> @time
[23:26] <fta> hm
[23:26] <asac_> fta: i wanted to ask modem folks today. will do that tomorrow
[23:37] <fta> asac_, thanks, let me know if i can help
[23:38] <asac_> fta: i will send you there if they need more info ;)
[23:42] <fta> 4720  songbird                       15031   683 13368   813   167 (Unknown)
[23:42] <fta> hm, that's a lot, not sure it's only mine
[23:42] <asac> fta: probably not. dont they distribute debs on their own?
[23:43] <asac> hmm
[23:48] <fta> still have deprecation warnings in bzr
[23:48] <asac> yeah
[23:49] <asac> most likely python 2.6 came out of nowhere for most ;)
[23:49] <asac> my main issue is currently my offline bug ;)
[23:49] <fta> cool, just added a strong 'compare' to chromium. it will fail if it finds something
[23:49] <asac> offlineimap ;)
[23:49] <asac> fta: thats what we actually want for the mozilla packages too i think
[23:49] <fta> i reported the issue in #bzr, they said they fixed it already, but the fix is not in jaunty
[23:49] <asac> fta: at least for 3.1 and later i guess
[23:50] <asac> fta: did you add a bzr targetpackage target too?
[23:51] <fta> ?
[23:51] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/129570/
[23:51] <asac> otherwise its not on the ubuntu radar at all
[23:51] <fta> i didn't file a bug, just asked on irc
[23:52] <fta> stevel, is there a tag for 1.1 ?
[23:54] <stevel> fta: http://timeline.songbirdnest.com/client/browser/tags/Songbird1.1.1
[23:54] <fta> thanks
[23:54] <asac> yay. just saw a dent about that ;)
[23:55] <asac> fta: without butg new upstream stuff probably wont get rolled to jaunty
[23:55] <fta> i just assumed enough people are using bzr to realize it's needed :P
[23:56] <asac> fta: what if everyone feels the same ;)
[23:56] <fta> then we're doomed
[23:56] <asac> hehe
[23:56] <asac> hear, hear, ... thats what i am saying :)
[23:57] <asac> i would think: "then there will be a SRU"
[23:57]  * stevel tries to catch his bus
[23:59] <asac> fta: hmm ... have you checked dh_install --list-missing?
[23:59] <asac> man dh_install


[00:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Bad merges (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Uploading build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[00:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Bad merges (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[03:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Preparing packages
[03:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Bad merges (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[04:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Failed to build (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Ready to build (zesty/snapd). Successfully built (xenial/snapd)
[04:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Failed to build (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Ready to build (zesty/snapd). Successfully built (xenial/snapd, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[04:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Preparing packages
[05:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 zesty/ubuntu-app-launch: Failed to download DSC file https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/ubuntu-app-launch_0.9+17.04.20170124-0ubuntu1.dsc
[05:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Ready to build (zesty/snapd). Successfully built (xenial/snapd, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[05:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Bad merges (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[05:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Preparing packages
[06:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Failed to build (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Ready to build (zesty/snapd). Successfully built (xenial/snapd, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[07:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[07:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Pending binary packages (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[08:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[08:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2432 Preparing packages
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2432 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2313 Preparing packages
[09:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2313 zesty/qtmir: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/frameDropperNoTexture
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2313 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2313 Preparing packages
[10:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2313 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv ahayzen mitya57, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2360 Proposed pocket (zesty/qtbase-opensource-src-gles). Release pocket (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src, xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles, zesty/qtbase-opensource-src)
[10:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2432 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (zesty/xen). Pending binary packages (zesty/qemu)
[11:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2432 Generating diffs
[11:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2432 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (zesty/xen). Successfully built (zesty/qemu)
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 Preparing packages
[11:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2432 Generating diffs
[11:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2432 Successfully built
[11:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Preparing packages
[11:47] <chrisccoulson> has anyone started testing oxide in https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2420 ?
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Failed to build (xenial/messaging-app, zesty/messaging-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-irc)
[12:24] <rvr> jgdx: Hi
[12:24] <jgdx> rvr, hoiy!
[12:24] <rvr> jgdx: In which device did you test the file picker silo?
[12:24] <jgdx> rvr, m10
[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/unity8)
[12:25] <rvr> jgdx: Really?
[12:25] <rvr> jgdx: https://trello.com/c/ZVGx9IXH/3949-2397-2397-ubuntu-system-settings-ubuntu-settings-components-jgdx
[12:26] <jgdx> rvr, do you have ssh into the device? Could you do $ apt-cache policy ubuntu-system-settings && apt-cache policy qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-settings-components
[12:27] <rvr> file:///custom/click/com.ubuntu.filemanager/0.4.559/qml/filemanager.qml:20:1:
[12:27] <rvr>  *** 0.4+16.04.20170118.1-0ubuntu1 1100
[12:27] <rvr>        1100 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay/ubuntu xenial/main arm64 Packages
[12:27] <rvr> Hmm
[12:28] <rvr> The silo package was not installed
[12:28] <jgdx> yeah not sure why, but that is odd
[12:30] <jgdx> the versions are bumped… hm
[12:31] <jgdx> rvr, so when you asked if I had tested the silo on m10, I can't really use the bileto tool, but I have to do the steps manually
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Preparing packages
[12:54] <oSoMoN> ubuntu-qa: is there a known issue with the OSK on the latest frieza_arm64 image?
[12:55] <oSoMoN> ubuntu-qa: and with app rotation? nothing will rotate, the entire UI is fixed to portrait
[12:55] <greyback> oSoMoN: you see it bouncing when you type?
[12:55] <oSoMoN> greyback, yes, and nothing gets input
[12:56] <davmor2> oSoMoN: rotation is known that's old not sure about keyboard
[12:56] <greyback> oSoMoN: yeah, I think I've that covered with bug 1660691
[12:56] <greyback> small miral fix on the way
[12:57] <oSoMoN> greyback, cool, thanks
[12:57] <greyback> The rotation issue I don't know about (but I confirm it exists)
[12:57] <greyback> probably a unity8 bug
[13:01] <jibel> oSoMoN, rotation is bug 1655324
[13:02] <oSoMoN> jibel, thanks
[13:08] <jgdx> rvr, I'm back
[13:08] <rvr> jgdx: Hey
[13:09] <rvr> jgdx: I can select certificates now, so my bad for not installing the silo packages correctly.
[13:09] <rvr> jgdx: However, they are not automatically selected after importing them.
[13:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Preparing packages
[13:12] <jgdx> rvr, hm, okay—will fix
[13:13] <rvr> jgdx: Cool, thanks
[13:17] <greyback> trainguards: hey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2404 is stuck in proposed due to a flaky unity8 test on i386. We're working on the fix still, but can we push the silo through?
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Failed to build (xenial/telephony-service). Pending binary packages (xenial/history-service, zesty/history-service, zesty/telephony-service). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, zesty/empathy)
[13:24] <Mirv> greyback: rerunning from http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#unity8
[13:24] <Mirv> now triggered
[13:25] <greyback> Mirv: let's see, if may fail again on the same qml test
[13:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Pending binary packages (xenial/messaging-app, zesty/messaging-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-irc)
[13:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Failed to build (xenial/telephony-service). Pending binary packages (zesty/telephony-service). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, xenial/history-service, zesty/empathy, zesty/history-service)
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Successfully built
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv ahayzen mitya57, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2360 Release pocket
[14:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Failed to build (xenial/telephony-service). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, xenial/history-service, zesty/empathy, zesty/history-service, zesty/telephony-service)
[14:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Preparing packages
[14:32] <greyback> Mirv: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2404 failed again, same reason, single flaky test on i386. It's something we've struggled to fix, as we can't reproduce it anywhere except on britney
[14:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Ready to build (zesty/snapd). Successfully built (xenial/snapd, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch)
[14:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Preparing packages
[14:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Failed to build (xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/content-hub, zesty/qtubuntu-print). Successfully built (xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, zesty/ubuntu-settings-components)
[15:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Ready to build (zesty/snapd). Successfully built (xenial/snapd, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[15:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Pending binary packages (xenial/messaging-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-app, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-irc)
[15:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Successfully built
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2433 Preparing packages
[16:16] <greyback> trainguards:  https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2404 still stuck in proposed, same reason, single flaky test on i386. It's something we've struggled to fix, as we can't reproduce it anywhere except on britney.
[16:17] <sil2100> hmm
[16:17] <sil2100> This will need a single hint to get that in, not sure if I have the permissions to do that
[16:18] <sil2100> greyback: could you poke on #ubuntu-devel?
[16:18] <greyback> sil2100: ok
[16:20] <greyback> sil2100: I'm not sure who to poke tho
[16:25] <sil2100> Just write it in overall, a question to someone with autopkgtest infra access
[16:37] <dobey> sil2100: oh, hey. can you remove stuff from the ubuntu seed too, or should we bug release team for that?
[16:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2140 Preparing packages
[16:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Bad merges (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[16:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2433 Pending binary packages
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2140 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles)
[17:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Bad merges (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[17:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2404 Release pocket
[17:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[17:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2313 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2415 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/unity8)
[17:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- andyrock Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2425 Failed to build (xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/unity-api). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8)
[17:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch)
[17:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2431 Proposed pocket
[17:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2432 Proposed pocket (zesty/qemu). Successfully built (zesty/xen)
[17:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Failed to build (xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/content-hub, zesty/qtubuntu-print, zesty/ubuntu-settings-components). Successfully built (xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components)
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2379 Proposed pocket
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2431 Abandoning ticket
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2105 Successfully built
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2433 Successfully built
[18:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2313 Preparing packages
[18:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[19:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Preparing packages
[19:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 zesty/ubuntu-app-launch: Failed to branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/ubuntu-app-launch/jobs-systemd
[19:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2313 Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api). Uploading build (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8)
[19:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2129 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Ready to build (zesty/snapd). Successfully built (xenial/snapd, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[19:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dandrader, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2313 Successfully built
[20:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Failed to build (xenial/telephony-service). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/telephony-service). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, xenial/history-service, zesty/empathy, zesty/history-service)
[20:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/messaging-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-irc)
[20:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Preparing packages
[21:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Currently building (zesty/telephony-service). Failed to build (xenial/history-service). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, zesty/empathy). Uploading build (xenial/telephony-service, zesty/history-service)
[21:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Failed to build (xenial/history-service). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, xenial/telephony-service, zesty/empathy, zesty/history-service, zesty/telephony-service)
[22:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jbicha, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2391 Proposed pocket
[22:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jbicha, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2392 Proposed pocket
[22:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2140 Preparing packages
[22:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2140 xenial/qtmir: Failed to download DSC file https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+files/qtmir_0.5.1+16.04.20170127-0ubuntu1.dsc
[22:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2434 Preparing packages
[23:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2140 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles)
[23:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2434 Failed to build (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[23:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Preparing packages
[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2434 Failed to build (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)


[07:45] <smartboyhw> Hmm now since the new lowlatency-pae thing is now in precise-updates and precise-proposed (hopefully also precise-main) the images should build now....
[09:32] <zequence> smartboyhw: Also, for future reference, it would be better if you don't add something to seeds that doesn't exist yet
[09:35] <zequence> We don't do stuff because it's fun. We do them, cause they are needed
[09:36] <zequence> But, of course, we may have fun doing it
[12:55] <smartboyhw> zequence, I forgotten: When will you take over Precise kernel maintenance???
[13:20] <zequence> smartboyhw: There's no exact time decided. When everything is ready for it
[13:21] <smartboyhw> zequence, BTW remind ya: Approve all our blueprints before 22nd......
[13:21] <zequence> Me and ScottL are working on that, yes
[13:23] <zequence> I finally got jackd2 patched for raring. Awaiting review for merging
[13:35] <smartboyhw> zequence, good:D
[14:08] <smartboyhw> zequence, changing blueprints to approved caused me to receive a hell lot of emails:D
[14:17] <len-dt> smartboyhw, the icon theme should not be added to seeds.
[14:17] <smartboyhw> len-dt, why?
[14:18] <smartboyhw> len-dt, it is MOST important we add it to the seeds......... (with your new version)
[14:18] <len-dt> Because it has to be added to settings.
[14:18] <smartboyhw> len-dt, oh........;P
[14:19] <len-dt> the icons are not really a theme on there own. That is they don't change the look of the desktop.
[14:19] <len-dt> they are an integral part of our menu.
[14:20] <smartboyhw> len-dt, grrr first of all we need to release it....Is 0.14 released/
[14:20] <len-dt> However, for them to take effect we have to make it the default theme unless we add it to hi color instead.
[14:21] <len-dt> First I need to finish it.
[14:21] <len-dt> It is not a rush :)
[14:23] <smartboyhw> len-dt, LOL
[14:24] <len-dt> So the merge is rejected. But don't worry, it will get done as needed.
[14:24] <len-dt> I think I am down on the BP as doing the icons anyway.
[14:26] <smartboyhw> len-dt, oh alright
[14:26] <smartboyhw> BTW there is naming convention problems in Wubi (since we're the only official Ubuntu distro with two words)
[14:27] <smartboyhw> I will fix it soon. Maybe now
[14:27] <len-dt> Once the icons are released, they can be tested by selecting our icon theme when running the live ISO. That show as the right icon in ubiquity... I think.
[14:28] <smartboyhw> len-dt, OK
[14:31] <len-dt> rejecting a merge sends out too much mail too :P
[14:41] <smartboyhw> len-dt, LOL
[14:42] <zequence> len-dt: I'm thinking the icon theme should belong to -desktop, not settings. And the icons in the menu should not be called by name, but by function
[14:43] <zequence> I don't know how the calling of the icons work atm (haven't checked)
[14:48] <zequence> This way, the menu is not depending on a icon theme
[14:58] <len-dt> Which is why I was wondering if they should be added to hi color
[14:59] <len-dt> I think the main thing is to get them out of pixmaps where they are now.
[15:00] <len-dt> In order for the icon for ubiquity to work though, I think it has to part of a theme that is default.
[15:01] <len-dt> However, once the system is installed, if the user changes the icon theme... the distro icon would change too.
[15:01] <len-dt> I don't know that we can change that.
[15:02] <len-dt> If I add the distro icon to hi color it will be covered by something higher up the tree.
[15:03] <len-dt> However, even if I put the menu icons in hi color, our settings package depends on them being there.
[15:03] <len-dt> zequence, so settings depends on icons.
[15:05] <zequence> len-dt: It's up to the user, if he/she wants the distro icon there, or not
[15:05] <len-dt> zequence, the icons package can put icons in two places. Our US logo can go only into our theme and the menu icons can go into hi color. All themes depend on hi color.
[15:07] <len-dt> For maintenance purposes, where would someone expect to find icons? I would think in the icon package.
[15:08] <zequence> The only situation when we want icons is on the ISO itself, and when the user installs -desktop. If someone installs only -settings, that person is probably not willing to change icon theme as well
[15:08] <zequence> Cause, that person is probably not even using XFCE
[15:08] <len-dt> The icons are not unique to xfce
[15:08] <zequence> len-dt: Yea, but the menu is
[15:09] <len-dt> The menu format is not and could be used othgerwise.
[15:09] <smartboyhw> Now wait a minute zequence NOT ONLY THE ISO
[15:09] <smartboyhw> I someones see window icons also with Xubuntu icons....
[15:09] <len-dt> In fact I should try changing the name of the menu file
[15:10] <len-dt> smartboyhw, we don't supply window icons.
[15:10] <smartboyhw> len-dt, er I mean those at the top left of windows
[15:11] <smartboyhw> If they weren't included in the applications it will use the Xubuntu ones
[15:11] <len-dt> mine look like v
[15:11] <smartboyhw> len-dt, looks like what?
[15:11] <len-dt> Do you mean the top left of eny window or top left of the screen.
[15:11] <zequence> I'm not following. Where are these icons exactly?
[15:12] <smartboyhw> len-dt, first options
[15:12] <len-dt> We only have the main menu icon, distro icon and some submenu icons.
[15:12] <smartboyhw> Wait let me give you a screenshot
[15:13] <zequence> len-dt: In either case, I don't see why the menu should depend on an icon theme. Installing -settings does not mean you are running a Ubuntu Studio distro
[15:14] <len-dt> it does mean you are adding our menu... and that menu would be broken without the icons to support it.
[15:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, /me agrees
[15:14] <len-dt> zequence, should we then include the icons in settings?
[15:15] <smartboyhw> len-dt, zequence as I say always the solution: Just copy all the icons from xubuntu-icon-theme, delete the distributor-logo in there and replace it with ours.....
[15:15] <smartboyhw> Then just change icons whatever we like
[15:15] <len-dt> smartboyhw, not needed
[15:16] <smartboyhw> len-dt, at least I think that is easier than having long discussions about what to put in what
[15:16] <zequence> len-dt: I don't think we should supply icons with settings at all. The menu should point to standard icons by their functional name, just like all the other icons in the menu.
[15:16] <len-dt> Those discusions are there anyway
[15:16] <len-dt> There are no standard icons for custom submenus.
[15:16] <smartboyhw> Now here
[15:17] <smartboyhw> http://s13.postimage.org/55lp9drnn/Screenshot_11172012_11_12_55_PM.jpg?noCache=1353165377
[15:17] <len-dt> That is why we are suppling them.
[15:17] <smartboyhw> Look at the top-left corner of each window zequence
[15:18] <len-dt> The shows up really small.
[15:18] <smartboyhw> len-dt, yeah sorry
[15:18] <zequence> len-dt: Perhaps we can use custom functions, and if such were not available, use standard functions. I at least prefer standards
[15:18] <len-dt> Fuctions? or icons?
[15:20] <len-dt> The menu standard gives me one submenu (multimedia) that has so many items in it I can't find the ones I need to work without searching.
[15:20] <len-dt> That is why we have a custom menu at all. The standard is broken.
[15:21] <zequence> len-dt: Find icons by it's functional name. If there is no functional name existing which works, create one
[15:21] <len-dt> Ok and put it where?
[15:21] <zequence> I should probably look more into how all of this works. I'm not talking out of knowing the specifics, but from principle
[15:21] <len-dt> zequence, That is why I was asking should we put them in hi color.
[15:22]  * smartboyhw does not know why he got 3 bugs assigned to him in two days......
[15:22] <len-dt> That is the standard place.
[15:23] <zequence> len-dt: Give me an example of such an icon in hi color
[15:24] <len-dt> zequence, the icon themes are a layered setup. hi color is the bottom layer. Any icon theme over lays that. and takes the icon in hi colors place.
[15:24] <len-dt> Your question doesn't make sense.
[15:24] <len-dt> Most applications put there icons in hi color.
[15:25] <len-dt> Our icon theme now is about 5 layers deep.
[15:25] <len-dt> We have imported the xubuntu theme, but we don't use it. We use one level down.
[15:25] <len-dt> That is we depend on their depends.
[15:26] <len-dt> We should fix that.
[15:27] <zequence> If I am to understand how it all works, I will need to do some research. This is the only way I can speak about specifics
[15:27] <zequence> I can't answer questions about specifics, if I don't know them
[15:27] <len-dt> Yes.
[15:27] <zequence> But, it would also be a waste of time, if someone else already has the knowledge and could to the work
[15:27] <smartboyhw> zequence, that someone = len-dt :p
[15:29] <len-dt> zequence, the things I think we agree on: Icons should be in there own package. the menu icons shold be theme independant.
[15:29] <zequence> len-dt: Yea, that sounds right
[15:30] <len-dt> Ok. The settings package will have to depend on the package that contains those generic icons.
[15:30] <len-dt> I will work at making sure that our icon theme works without using the xubutu icon theme too.
[15:31] <zequence> I still don't see why -settings has to depend on icons though
[15:31] <len-dt> The menus have to have the icons. other wise they will all look like the utilities icon.
[15:32] <zequence> Didn't you just say the menu icons should not depend on the icon theme. And that the icons should be in their own theme package?
[15:32]  * smartboyhw is just too confused with what len-dt and zequence are talking about
[15:32] <len-dt> The package says theme, but the reality is there are generic icons there too because we don't want to put those in settings.
[15:33] <zequence> If possible, I'd like the icons in the menu to point to icons by their functional name, just as the other icons in the menu does
[15:33] <len-dt> zequence, Yes but those icons have to exist.
[15:33] <len-dt> They don't yet.
[15:34] <len-dt> We are using icons that belong to sw packages right now.
[15:35] <len-dt> In some ways I think the package should not be called icon-theme, just ubuntustudio-icons.
[15:35] <zequence> No, I think we should work from the aspect that the icons belong to a theme. At least those in the menu
[15:35] <len-dt> zequence, we are not really creating a theme... the theme has only one icon.
[15:36] <smartboyhw> Grrr then use ubuntustudio-icon-set
[15:36] <len-dt> zequence, ok, do they belong to the US theme or the generic theme.
[15:36] <zequence> len-dt: How does the menu find the icons to the standard categories. Where is a file I could look at about this?
[15:37] <len-dt> This is all opendesktop stuff.
[15:37] <zequence> You mean freedesktop?
[15:37] <len-dt> the icons are all in /usr/share/icons
[15:37] <len-dt> ya freedesktop.
[15:37] <zequence> I know where the icons are, but how does the menu call them?
[15:37] <len-dt> The standard that xfce is bassed on.
[15:38] <len-dt> Yes.
[15:39] <len-dt> The menu uses some code that bounces through the icon theme structure starting at the top and working its way down till it finds an icon with the name in the *desktop file or the *.directory file.
[15:40] <zequence> len-dt: Where were the *.directory files now again?
[15:40] <len-dt> Each icon theme has an index.theme file
[15:41] <len-dt> The directory files are in /usr/share/desktop-directories
[15:41] <len-dt> The index names the next level down.
[15:42] <len-dt> We could rename all of ours without the ubuntustudio part if we wanted to.
[15:42] <len-dt> Make them fuction only.
[15:43] <len-dt> We can do the same with our icons.
[15:44] <len-dt> Right now... because all our icons are in /usr/share/pixmaps we have added the word ubuntustudio to their names
[15:54] <zequence> len-dt: hicolor, isn't that a place where applications put their icons, when installed?
[15:54] <len-dt> Yes.
[15:55] <len-dt> That is the default icon theme.
[15:55] <len-dt> Every icon theme depends on hicolor
[15:59] <zequence> len-dt: I think we need to adress the icons from two separate packages. I can see the point in keeping the custom menu category icons in -settings, which would add those to hicolor. Those icons would show, no matter which theme. And any distro icon should be in a icon theme package, even if it's just a matter of one icon
[16:00] <len-dt> Ok, so the one distro icon goes in theme and the rest in settings.
[16:00] <zequence> So, I would suggest keeping the custom icons in -settings, and installing them to the hicolor folder. While, other icons (such as the distro logo) should be a part of a separate theme package, which inherits the theme we'd like to use as the Ubuntu Studio theme
[16:01] <zequence> Yea
[16:01] <len-dt> And the menu icons should have generic names that show only function.
[16:02] <zequence> Yea, and we should probably name the custom menu categories after existing freedesktop names as much as possible
[16:03] <len-dt> Like freedesktop category names?
[16:03] <zequence> And in the long run, try to influence standard practice on freedesktop menu categorization and icon themes
[16:04] <zequence> len-dt: I saw there were a lot of names here that seemed to work for us http://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html#additional-category-registry
[16:04] <len-dt> That was my thought as well.
[16:04] <zequence> Audio and Video are main categories
[16:05] <zequence> And Graphics too of course
[16:05] <len-dt> Photgraphy is not I think
[16:05] <smartboyhw> Bye all
[16:05] <zequence> Yea, but Photography is one of the Additional categories
[16:05] <len-dt> mixers is there.
[16:05] <zequence> Also Publishing
[16:06] <zequence> midi, sequencer are two other
[16:06] <len-dt> what about effects and sound gen?
[16:07] <zequence> len-dt: Perhaps just redo our menu to incorporate the standards that suit us, so we don't actually change anything right now. Keep the custom menus, and leave any additional changes for the future
[16:08] <zequence> I suspect it'll take a while to come up with something that makes absolute sense for much of the categories
[16:08] <len-dt> I think this is my project for this cycle
[16:10] <zequence> Just upgraded to Raring. The new nautilus is missing one feature, which I liked. Namely being able to open directories in tree view.
[16:10] <len-dt> Is it still called nautilus or files?
[16:11] <zequence> I guess the name is Files, but the package is nautilus
[16:11] <len-dt> ubuntu has been back and forth on that.
[16:11] <len-dt> 12.04 was files and 12.10 was back to nautilus
[16:11] <zequence> ubuntu decided to use the older nautilus for last release
[16:12] <zequence> They reverted
[16:12] <len-dt> files had huge changes.
[16:12] <len-dt> it may have been a stabilty thing
[16:12] <zequence> Yea, but these are changes made by Gnome, not Ubuntu. I think probably Ubuntu will be using Files in the future too, even though there is some objection
[16:13] <zequence> No, I think it was only because of the interface change actually
[16:13] <len-dt> Does it have an about anywhere?
[16:14] <zequence> Personally, I think nautilus is becoming a bit too dumb for me. But, it's still the most used and best supported file manager. That'll be the reason to keep it
[16:14] <len-dt> I remember trying to file a bug with it and not being able to find out what package it was.
[16:14] <zequence> It's called nautilus
[16:15] <zequence> But, the name in about is "Files"
[16:15] <len-dt> It is more stable than thunar anyway.
[16:15] <len-dt> I think stable is better than pretty
[16:16] <len-dt> There seems to be a move away from the menubar
[16:16] <zequence> Yea. I don't see why they can't keep "advanced settings" for people who like them
[16:17] <len-dt> File a bug.
[16:17] <len-dt> There may be no menubar but there is a menu.
[16:18] <zequence> gnome-shell uses a one button menu in the panel, which is only now being used for other functions than "Quit". Both Web and Nautilus have two menu buttons. One in the panel, and one in the gui. Each having their own functions
[16:18] <len-dt> It works well with unity as well.
[17:00] <len-dt> The distributor-logo that we see now is from elementary-xfce BTW
[17:10] <zequence> len-dt: Ok, so what icons would we need to keep in our own theme right now?
[17:13] <len-dt> The distributor-logo.
[17:13] <len-dt> Its there. just needs upload.
[17:13] <zequence> len-dt: For ubiquity?
[17:14] <len-dt> yes. It could be used for the mainmenu too I think.
[17:14] <zequence> Or, which distributor-logo are we seeing right now, and where? The Ubuntu Studio logo, or Xubuntu?
[17:14] <zequence> Never mind
[17:15] <len-dt> The one we are seeing right now is xfce
[17:15] <len-dt> It is not Xubuntu.
[17:15] <len-dt> We are not using the Xubuntu icon theme even though we load it.
[17:15] <zequence> I have to say the Ubuntu Studio logo is a real killer logo
[17:16]  * len-dt only cares that it is unique and recognizable
[17:16] <len-dt> I'm not much for eye candy.  :)
[17:18] <len-dt> It looks like a should put the menu icon in the panel directory and should make it 22x22


[00:21] <snap-l> http://cruelcorruptrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/forever-your-valentine <- Metal
[00:22] <snap-l> http://jbaron.bandcamp.com/track/countdown <-FML
[12:34] <snap-l> apparently there is a comoc convention next to Ohio Linuxfest
[16:10] <greg-g> alright, other than the Tims, Cliff, and Brewster, who in this series should I listen to?
[16:10] <greg-g> http://town.hall.org/radio/Geek/
[16:39] <jrwren> rick_h_: I need some python coaching
[16:49] <jrwren> nevermind. http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3148/ FTW
[17:21] <greg-g> ok, second question that'll go unanswered for the day: what should my new wireless router be?
[17:35] <jrwren> i hear great things about TL-WDR3600
[17:35] <jrwren> and the price is nice.
[17:36] <snap-l> I have a netgear
[17:36] <snap-l> The N300, iirc
[17:40] <greg-g> thanks, I get overwhelmed with routers. Each one has diehard lovers and diehard haters
[17:43] <snap-l> myopenrouter.net, iirc
[17:44] <snap-l> http://www.myopenrouter.com/
[17:49] <UnFixed> that TL-WDR3600 looks really nice.
[17:52] <Blazeix> i usually look for what's well-supported by dd-wrt, then choose from that list
[17:54] <snap-l> WR3500L is what I have, with Tomato on it
[17:55] <snap-l> BUt they sell it with the N300 moniker on it. You have to look at the labels
[17:55] <snap-l> Turnd my nose up on a ton of them before I realied that Staples had a ton of them in stock.
[17:55] <UnFixed> I hate the different versions they have on routers.
[17:55] <UnFixed> often early versions are supported, while later ones arent.
[17:55] <greg-g> UnFixed: yep, annoying
[17:56] <snap-l> Yeah, it's a real PITA how they overload the numbes
[17:56] <greg-g> UnFixed: and you can't tell which one you'll get from eg Amazon when it is a rev difference
[17:56] <UnFixed> yup
[17:56]  * greg-g nods
[18:00] <jrwren> my TL-WDR3600 recommendation is from johnf in arslinux, he likes openwrt on it.
[18:08] <greg-g> thanks all  :)
[18:08] <greg-g> I trust #ubuntu-us-mi more than Amazon or Newegg reviews ;)
[18:26] <UnFixed> I might pick one up myself. Been having bad luck with wireless router recently.
[18:40] <greg-g> hmm, the WDR4300 is $99 (vs the $69 for the 3600) from Amazon. The 3600 isn't in stock for Amazon, but Newegg has it for that price. But, with shipping and tax the Newegg $60 3600 is more expensive
[18:41] <UnFixed> have you checked locally?
[18:42] <UnFixed> also
[18:42] <greg-g> no
[18:42] <UnFixed> im seeing free 3-day shipping from newegg
[18:42] <greg-g> oh right, 3 day, yeah, I suppose that was an unfair comparison
[18:44] <UnFixed> also, v1.1 works with openwrt
[18:44] <UnFixed> not sure if there are later or earlier versions of it for sale.
[18:46] <greg-g> apparently just one; http://www.tp-link.com/en/support/download/?productcategoryid=201&model=TL-WDR3600
[18:46] <greg-g> nevermind the warning, click teh "I know how to find my version" button
[18:47] <UnFixed> ah, perfect.
[18:49] <greg-g> yep :)
[18:50] <greg-g> btw, UnFixed, I don't think we've met. I'm Greg. Actually living in CA (SF) now but long time Ubuntu Michigan member
[18:51] <UnFixed> I'm Arslan. I'm positive we've never met because ive only been in this channel a few times. I work with _stink_ and ColonelPanic001 at WSU.
[18:52] <greg-g> oh, well then, with friends like that....
[18:52] <_stink_> UnFixed: i told you not to admit this!
[18:52] <ColonelPanic001> SRSLY
[18:53] <ColonelPanic001> You don't make friends by admitting to a connection with me
[18:53] <ColonelPanic001> "oh good god, this guy is just going to talk about internet memes all day, too"
[18:53] <UnFixed> I'm not very good at this game. Time to go back to nethack.
[19:27] <jrwren> cats?
[21:52] <greg-g> snap-l: me biking into a parked pickup truck when 10 years old
[21:52] <greg-g> my rear shifter wasn't working, so I was peddling and looking at it and BAM!
[22:59] <snap-l> Hello there.
[22:59] <snap-l> greg-g: I didn't see that in the post (but I was skimming it)
[22:59] <snap-l> btw: here at OLF
[22:59] <snap-l> getting ready for nice dinner w/ J
[23:00] <brousch> I am scared to turn on my computers
[23:00] <brousch> GrrCON has scarred me for life
[23:01] <snap-l> Heh
[23:01] <snap-l> I'm on the 4G on my phone. ;)
[23:01] <snap-l> Tethered.
[23:02] <greg-g> snap-l: "or Diane Slough, R.N. who cared for my son in the Emergency Department at our “old hospital” when he rode his bicycle into the back of a pick-up truck in 1992, "
[23:02] <snap-l> Ah.
[23:02] <snap-l> greg-g: I never told you about the time I got my leg caught in a tree, did I?
[23:02] <snap-l> Now we're even. ;)
[23:03] <greg-g> haha, awesome
[23:04] <snap-l> Yeah, was climbing this tree that had two trunks (was split down the middle)
[23:04] <snap-l> spying on the neighbor kids behind us
[23:05] <snap-l> WEll, managed to slip, and get my leg sandwiched inbetween
[23:05] <snap-l> kids noticed me trying to get out, and tried to get my mom.  A branch broke and I tumbled down.  They are too smart
[23:59] <jjesse-android> Lol I bet


[00:04] <xivulon1> StevenK hi
[01:37] <xivulon1> what modules are usually required when creating grub2 in order to access the fs?
[05:21] <StevenK> xivulon: What's up?
[06:37] <CIA-33> ubiquity: superm1 * r3379 ubiquity/debian/changelog: release 1.99.7 into karmic
[08:07] <xivulon1> evand, do you know what grub2 modules I should build in? I don't seem to be able to see my fs.
[09:04] <evand> xivulon: no idea, sorry
[09:06] <xivulon1> evand who might know? I loaded all possible modules but it seems that no device at all is visible
[09:07] <xivulon1> this is within virtualbox
[09:07] <evand> cjwatson, but he's on vacation.  I'd try the grub mailing list.
[09:24] <xivulon1> evand, the issue seems to be with the ordering of the modules in grub-mkimage, but not sure yet how to find that out, probably inside of grub-install somewhere
[10:16] <CIA-33> wubi: Agostino Russo * r143 trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
[10:16] <CIA-33> wubi: * Add grub modules in correct order
[10:16] <CIA-33> wubi: * Fixed grub.cfg files
[10:16] <CIA-33> wubi: * Ignore '-' in distro name (thanks Evan Dandrea)
[10:16] <CIA-33> wubi: * Fixed typos in tasklist
[10:17] <xivulon1> evand, StevenK ^
[10:17] <evand> good deal, uploading that now
[10:18] <xivulon1> it will probably not be able to boot, but should go a bit further than before
[10:18] <xivulon1> have to go now, see you
[10:20] <evand> cheers
[10:29] <StevenK> evand: I'll give that a test tomorrow
[11:58] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3380 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py): Adjust the way the locale is passed to ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu.
[13:10] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3381 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog control): Depend on cryptsetup for encrypted home directory support.
[13:12] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3382 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[13:12] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: user-setup
[13:12] <CIA-33> ubiquity: 1.27ubuntu7.
[13:15] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3383 ubiquity/debian/real-po/ (80 files): debconf-updatepo
[13:31] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3384 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.99.8
[13:56] <ryanakca> Where does checking the username get done? My guess for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/413147 is that I need to check the username UserSetup.run() ?
[14:13] <evand> ryanakca: it's a mix of the usersetup ubiquity component and the user-setup debian-installer component
[14:14] <evand> http://people.canonical.com/~evand/tmp/ubiquity-diagram.png - is an awful drawing I came up with of how everything is pieced together
[14:56] <kirkland> evand: howdy
[14:56] <evand> kirkland: hi
[14:57] <kirkland> evand: i was just about to start testing today's iso's
[14:57] <kirkland> evand: is the swap stuff ready for my testing on there?
[14:58] <evand> kirkland: not yet, I'm about to do a spin, but there might be uninstallable issues on the livefs, so I'm checking that out first
[14:58] <kirkland> evand: ah, okay
[14:58] <kirkland> evand: i should wait then?
[14:58] <evand> everything is in place though.  As soon as we get an up-to-date livefs, it should work
[14:58] <evand> indeed
[14:58] <evand> I'll keep you posted
[16:14] <superm1> you're gonna have a hard time getting a new iso made
[16:14] <superm1> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/karmic/ubuntu/20090818.1/livecd-20090818.1-i386.out
[16:14] <superm1> on ttf-bitstream-versa's LP page: "Deleted in karmic-release  (Reason: (From Debian) RoM; superseeded by ttf-dejavu)  "
[16:15] <superm1> oh wait, you're on top of that already aren't ya, i just saw a meta upload :)
[16:36] <evand> :)
[17:48] <NCommander> Is there anyone around who can help merge base-installer/libdebian-installer changes for me/
[23:04] <xivulon> hmm grub2 stops soon after loading the kernel, while displaying [Linux-bzImage,... ]
[23:05] <xivulon> any idea how to understand what is happening?


[05:06] <dscassel> If somebody sees fatrixkid come online, can you tell him to leave his IRC window open?  I keep missing him.
[05:07]  * dscassel wishes he'd send me email. Asynchronous communication ftw.
[12:13] <bregma> haze at sunrise, high of 33 and humid
[12:13] <bregma> heath warnings in the city
[12:13] <bregma> _health_ warnings
[12:14] <bregma> I think I'll need to steal the fan from my daughter's room again
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:53] <s-fox> o/


[00:32] <FFEMTcJ> Can I get a member cloak please? https://edge.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston
[01:26] <dvz-> hrm, is this where I go to ask about the new cloak?
[01:28] <FFEMTcJ> dvz-, yes.. post your launchpad url.. im still waiting to hear from someone
[01:29] <dvz-> LP:  https://launchpad.net/~digitalvectorz
[01:30] <pleia2> you'll want to make sure your nickname is set up as defined here: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[01:30] <pleia2> (including alt nick and email set)
[01:31] <pleia2> then wait around for folks who can add you, there are only a few who can so it might take some time
[01:33] <FFEMTcJ> pleia2: has there been a good number of people offering to join the irc council?
[01:33] <pleia2> not sure
[01:33] <pleia2> I hope so :)
[01:33] <FFEMTcJ> You know everything else.. Figured you knew that too
[01:33] <FFEMTcJ> lol
[01:33] <pleia2> hehe
[01:35] <FFEMTcJ> I think it would be easier to ask you what you arent involved in
[01:42] <starcraftman> hi there, sorry for the nick spam, one of my nicks was a problem. Can I get a cloak on this account? It's already set up.
[01:45] <pleia2> starcraftman: you'll need to post a link to your LP profile too :)
[01:45] <starcraftman> ah right.
[01:45] <starcraftman> https://launchpad.net/~starcraft.man
[01:49] <starcraftman> too bad can't have my period for my irc nick, got used to it everywhere else.
[01:51] <starcraftman> that sounded better in my head.
[02:00] <Toluxero> hi! my lp profile https://launchpad.net/~Toluxero
[03:01] <zoopster> hi - I'm a new Ubuntu member https://launchpad.net/~jpugh - I'd like to request the Ubuntu member cloak please - thanks!
[03:22] <IngForigua> Hi every one
[03:35] <dvz-> hi IngForigua
[03:36] <IngForigua> Hi dvz- congratulations
[03:36] <dvz-> ty, you too
[03:36] <IngForigua> you already can configure yo nick
[03:36] <IngForigua> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Cloaks <<<---- i can't
[03:40] <IngForigua> it is my launchpad profile https://launchpad.net/~ingforigua
[03:40] <dvz-> IngForigua: why can't you?
[03:41] <IngForigua> dvz- you already use the cloak "ubuntu/member/nickname"
[03:42] <dvz-> IngForigua: as far as i see, i'm still using the unaffiliated cloak
[03:44] <IngForigua> ok, dvz- the cloak, where is request? here
[03:44] <dvz-> IngForigua: si senior
[03:45] <IngForigua> Ok, i understand thanks :)
[03:45] <dvz-> anytime :)
[03:45]  * IngForigua is colombian user his english is poor
[08:36] <Toluxero> hi!
[08:37] <DJones> Hi Toluxero
[08:41] <Toluxero> I need cloak my nickname. who helps me
[08:41] <Toluxero> ?
[08:43] <DJones> I think you need to wait for Pici or elky to come into the channel to check your ubuntu membership status, they'll be able to check and then let you know if there's anything else you need to do
[08:44] <DJones> !register | Toluxero If its just a general freenode unaffiliated cloak, then this factoid should help you
[08:46] <Toluxero> DJones, hmm, I mean @ubuntu/member/toluxero
[08:47] <DJones> Toluxero: Right, that will probably be Pici/elky to verify and then they'll be able to arrange for the cloak to be set
[08:48] <tsimpson> jussi01: looks like FFEMTcJ, dvz-, starcraftman, and Toluxero require your attention :)
[08:48] <Toluxero> DJones, ok, thanks
[08:49] <jussi01> Toluxero: lp url please
[08:50] <Toluxero> jussi01, https://launchpad.net/~Toluxero
[08:51] <jussi01> DJones: just fyi, its only Pici or I at, until we get a new IRCC. you can check the current ircc members from: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council
[08:52] <jussi01> staff, nalioth niko etc, please cloak Toluxero with an ubuntu/member cloak
[08:53] <DJones> jussi01: Thanks, I knew PIci had been dealing with them and I thought it was elky, I'll remember its you and Pici (hopefully)
[08:55] <Toluxero> jussi01, The process takes approximately?
[08:55] <jussi01> Toluxero: untill a staff member notices...
[08:56] <Toluxero> jussi01, thanks
[08:56] <jussi01> staff, nalioth niko etc, please cloak starcraftman with an ubuntu/member cloak
[09:00] <jussi01> staff, nalioth niko etc, please cloak zoopster with an ubuntu/member cloak
[09:03] <jussi01> staff, nalioth niko etc, please cloak dvz- with an ubuntu/member cloak
[09:04] <jussi01> staff, nalioth niko etc, please cloak FFEMTcJ with an ubuntu/member cloak
[09:05] <jussi01> ok, anyone Ive missed or not seen, please ask again.
[09:15] <niko> ok, let's me do that
[09:19] <niko> jussi01: all done
[09:20] <jussi01> :)
[09:49] <elky> DJones, whilst I'm still a GC, i'm technically not IRCC at this moment (so i tend only to GC in emergencies at the moment) once the election is over we'll be able to have more active GC/IRCC people.
[09:51] <DJones> elky: ok thanks, sorry about the misunderstanding
[09:52] <elky> thats ok
[10:40] <zoopster> thanks for the cloak jussi01!
[10:41] <zoopster> and thank you too niko
[13:14] <Tm_T> jumpy night
[13:14] <declanmg> hello, just wondering if anyone's around to explain why my ubuntumembers cloak isn't working?
[13:16] <Mamarok> did you change your nick?
[13:17] <declanmg> nope.
[13:17] <Tm_T> and did you identify too?
[13:18] <declanmg> I have autoidentify set up
[13:18] <Tm_T> doesn't mean it worked, though
[13:18] <declanmg> i'm just thinking that.
[13:18] <Tm_T> declanmg: looks like you're not identidied currently
[13:18] <declanmg> Is there a way to check that a user (ie. me) is regsisterd?
[13:19] <declanmg> ie. how do you know that I'm not identitied?
[13:19] <declanmg> excuse the bad grammer on my part :-)
[13:19] <Tm_T> declanmg: I just did /wii declanmg
[13:20] <declanmg> I get wii: Unknown command
[13:20] <declanmg> Am using Konversation
[13:20] <Tm_T> declanmg: /whois <nick>
[13:21] <declanmg> ok. ahhh... I see the identified bit.
[13:21] <declanmg> thanks
[13:21] <declanmg> I'll try to identify now and hopefully the cloak goes up like a romulan warbird.
[13:23] <declanmg> Tm_T: Yip. That's fixed it. Thanks very much. I'm off to the Konversation support team :-)
[13:23] <Tm_T> declanmg: works now, yes
[14:14] <mhall119|work> howdy howdy
[14:15] <mhall119|work> I was told I can request my IRC cloak here
[14:19] <niko> Pici, jussi01 ^^
[14:20] <mhall119|work> https://launchpad.net/~mhall119
[14:26] <Pici> niko: Could you please cloak mhall119|work with ubuntu/member/mhall119 ?
[14:28] <niko> done
[14:28] <Pici> mhall119|work: Congrats :)
[14:28] <Pici> niko: Thanks too :)
[14:28] <mhall119|work> Pici: thanks
[14:40] <Toluxero> hi niko
[14:47] <Toluxero> hi jussi01
[14:56] <niko> hi Toluxero
[14:59] <Toluxero> niko, you can drop the cloak on my nickname?
[15:00] <niko> i don't see a cloak on your nickname
[15:02] <Toluxero> niko, you can set that?
[15:03] <Pici> Toluxero: Are you looking for an Ubuntu Member cloak?
[15:03] <niko> oh, i missed the <*jussi01> staff, nalioth niko etc, please cloak Toluxero with an ubuntu/member cloak
[15:04] <niko> so cloaked now
[15:04] <Pici> oops, so did I.
[15:04] <Toluxero> Pici, I am a new Ubuntu member, I agreed yesterday:)
[15:05] <Pici> Toluxero: Congrats :)
[15:06] <Toluxero> niko, Pici, thanks 4 all
[23:09] <mok0> Hi, I'd like an Ubuntu cloak. My Launchpad id is also mok0
[23:12] <Pici> mok0: could you make sure that you have an email address attached to your nickserv account. /msg nickserv info   will show you.  I don't care what it is, just that its there.
[23:12]  * mok0 looks
[23:12] <mok0> Yes it does
[23:13] <Pici> mok0: okay, one moment while I find a freenode staffer.
[23:13] <mok0> Thanks Pici
[23:17] <nalioth> freenode staffer? there are at least 3 here, Pici
[23:18] <Pici> nalioth: I was looking for one that wasn't idle :)
[23:19] <nalioth> i take it mok0 needs a cloak?
[23:19] <Pici> He does indeed.
[23:19] <Pici> Hes all set.
[23:19] <Pici> mok0: congrats, you're set.
[23:20] <mok0> Great, thanks!
[23:20] <mok0> Wow that was fast
[23:20] <mok0> :)


[03:06] <Chloric> evening guys
[03:10] <Chloric> oh hey itnet7
[04:09] <ghuru> hello!
[05:21] <itnet7> Hey there ghuru, was just about to go to bed, when I noticed you 'hello', How are you?
[05:21] <itnet7> No worries if  you're not around just wanted to say hey!
[05:21] <itnet7> ttys
[13:36] <dantalizing> morning
[13:41] <dantalizing> any sed/vim/regex heros awake?
[14:02] <reya276> Morning Everyone
[14:08] <dantalizing> morning reya276
[14:12] <reya276> dantalizingm, where is the schedule for the team meetings?
[14:13] <reya276> wow after doing this mornings updates on one of my Ubuntu servers running 10.04 I this MSG "Your CPU appears to be lacking expected security protections.
[14:13] <reya276> Please check your BIOS settings, or for more information, run:
[14:13] <reya276>   /usr/bin/check-bios-nx --verbose"
[14:13] <reya276> nice
[14:14] <reya276> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/CPUFeatures
[14:30] <jck77> Morning
[14:58] <mhall119> reya276: there isn't currently a meeting scheduled
[14:58] <mhall119> if there was, it'd be here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-florida
[16:00] <mhall119> RoAkSoAx is running a class in #ubuntu-classroom right now!
[16:05] <jck77> mhall119: whats the topic?
[16:05] <mhall119> TestDrive
[16:05] <jck77> thanks
[16:06] <mhall119> which is used for quick and easy testing of Ubuntu pre-releases
[16:06] <jck77> I see
[21:58] <reya276> Hey does anyone know what is the default services or port where windows printers connect to