[04:37] <gnomefreak> im sorry gcc*
[04:38] <gnomefreak> Ng: thats my point there are different packages for each lang
[04:38] <ita> sorry for crossposting : http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20156 <- is this bug still in 5.10 ?
[04:38] <soundray> gnomefreak, all I'm saying is that your unqualified statement "gcc is only C" is patently wrong.
[04:38] <Ng> gnomefreak: .c means C. you probably want to name your files .cpp or something
[04:38] <Ng> gnomefreak: or use -x
[04:39] <gnomefreak> Ng: i know all that to compile a cpp you need g++
[04:39] <lennart> where can I find codecs for playing music and video(mpeg, mp3 etc)?
[04:40] <Ng> gnomefreak: gcc is just a frontend, it's not a compiler, it calls c89 or c99 to compile .c files
[04:40] <m0wax> I have just installed samba on ubuntu and I followed the ubuntu guide to creating a public share that is open to all http://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba (ie no u/p).  However I am still being asked for a u/p from my windows machine.  Here is my conf http://pastebin.com/556039 .........any ideas
[04:40] <soundray> !tell lennart about restricted
[04:40] <SaLoMoN> !tell SaLoMoN  about restricted
[04:40] <soundray> !tell lennart about FreeFormats
[04:41] <soundray> SaLoMoN, you can also /msg ubotu restricted
[04:41] <SaLoMoN> !tell SaLoMoN about FreeFormats
[04:42] <Angel_Dex> If i copy a CD image to Disk can i boot off it with grub
[04:43] <Angel_Dex> o.o
[04:43] <lennart> soundray thnx its legal in my country :P
[04:43] <soundray> lennart, it's not just about legality, but about freedom, too.
[04:44] <soundray> Angel_Dex, I've seen this discussed somewhere for Knoppix iso's. Web search?
[04:44] <NoStress> the pb is software patent ?
[04:44] <lennart> soundray huh I dont understand
[04:45] <Angel_Dex> soundray >.> I think that was me
[04:45] <gnomefreak> brb gotta boot to win for a few
[04:45] <soundray> lennart, NoStress, the problem is that some formats are encumbered with restrictions that make it impossible to play/encode them with free (as in speech) software.
[04:46] <Angel_Dex> i wish i had windows 2k TT_TT I need it for webcams wma format and voice chat only
[04:46] <soundray> Angel_Dex, it was howto type information about booting isos.
[04:47] <Angel_Dex> soundray ah ok cuz i was discusing that with some pple befor
[04:47] <soundray> Angel_Dex, I don't mean here.
[04:47] <Angel_Dex> ok
[04:48] <soundray> Angel_Dex, http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Hd_Based_HowTo
[04:50] <Angel_Dex> soundray thankies
[04:51] <brukental> hello, does anyone have a link or the title of a good book on TCP/IP especially at the pack level?
[04:51] <Deepz> hihi
[04:51] <brukental> just need a quick referance, etc.
[04:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !sources
[04:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:52] <Deepz> i updated my kernel to 2.6.12-10-386, and now i cannot reinstall ndiswrapper, make install brings this error: cannot find kernel source in lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build
[04:55] <brukental> deepz
[04:55] <brukental> deepz: did the install or the download of your kernel get interupted?
[04:55] <Deepz> no
[04:56] <Deepz> it was successful
[04:56] <Deepz> but ndiswrapper stopped functioning, so i figured i needed to reinstall it under the new kernel
[04:56] <brukental> deepz: hang on a sec..
[04:56] <Deepz> ok thanks
[04:56] <Angel_Dex> funkyHat hola
[04:57] <funkyHat> hey Angel_Dex
[04:57] <brukental> deepz: looked up that on my system, I dont have /build either... gimme another sec.
[04:57] <Deepz> kk
[04:58] <Angel_Dex> funkyHat i got a newer computer now i bought a compaq 933mhz 128mb of ram built in sound and vid for 75$ added 256mb of ram for 33$ my vidcard and a 120gig spanken new wd HD i had
[04:58] <diesel> Anyone had good luck with apt-pinning breezy sources and using *some* of the packages in dapper?
[04:58] <soundray> Deepz, why do you recompile? ndiswrapper should work just like that if you install ndiswrapper-utils.
[04:58] <m0wax> I have just installed samba on ubuntu and I followed the ubuntu guide to creating a public share that is open to all http://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba (ie no u/p).  However I am still being asked for a u/p from my windows machine.  Here is my conf http://pastebin.com/556039 .........any ideas?
[04:59] <Deepz> thats what i thought, but it stopped functioning, the wlan0 interface just got deleted somehow during the upgrade
[04:59] <brukental> deepz: do you have build-essential installed??
[04:59] <Deepz> yes
[04:59] <Deepz> i have all build packages, gcc, cpp, g++ etc
[04:59] <Deepz> plus all kernel headers
[04:59] <soundray> Deepz, did you do modprobe ndiswrapper and then do the configuration?
[05:00] <cappiz> hum... i did a : e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/itcrypt under a screen... now i cant detache it.. how can i see whats going on... and if e2fsck -f actually are doing something...? if a abort e2fsck -f , would my filesystem be broken then?
[05:00] <Deepz> i cant get as far as modprobe because it wont initiate installation
[05:00] <Deepz> but it all worked fine under the other kernel b4 update
[05:01] <soundray> Deepz, I suggest you do this: 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils' (expect this to say "already the newest...". Then just enter 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' and see if the interface appears. If not, reinstall your driver.
[05:02] <soundray> Deepz, compiling *should* not be necessary.
[05:02] <soundray> Deepz, view compiling as a last resort.
[05:02] <Deepz> ok
[05:02] <cappiz> c
[05:02] <cappiz> anyone?
[05:02] <brukental> heheheh or do Gentoo!
[05:03] <Deepz> tnx for the info, im pretty new to linux, ill try out your suggesstion
[05:03] <brukental> cap, why did you do fsck in the first place?
[05:03] <soundray> cappiz, are you saying you can't detach or attach?
[05:03] <cappiz> detach
[05:03] <cappiz> screen is open
[05:03] <cappiz> i cant detach
[05:03] <soundray> cappiz, why do you want to detach?
[05:04] <brukental> cap, and no your filesystem will not get corrupted by running a forced fsck.
[05:04] <soundray> cappiz, and what do you get when you do Ctrl-A D ?
[05:04] <cappiz> wel... if i abort the e2fsck
[05:04] <soundray> brukental, it might, if it gets interrupted.
[05:04] <cappiz> would it be broken?
[05:04] <soundray> cappiz, there is that risk.
[05:05] <brukental> why did you run forced?
[05:05] <cappiz> soundray thats why i wanna detache it... and nothing happens if i do Ctrl-A D
[05:05] <cappiz> brukental reseize my lvm
[05:05] <soundray> cappiz, are you running screen in a terminal?
[05:05] <cappiz> yeah
[05:06] <soundray> cappiz, can you open another terminal window and run screen -R -D
[05:06] <brukental> humph....
[05:06] <brukental> heheh
[05:06] <cappiz> soundray i can open a new terminal
[05:07] <cappiz> what happens with screen -R -D ?
[05:07] <soundray> cappiz, you force the other session to detach and to attach to the new screen you're running in the new terminal (man screen)
[05:07] <catfox> how can i do something like: while 1 < 10 - but in a bash script?
[05:07] <cappiz> soundray and what if it fails?
[05:08] <soundray> catfox: for i in $(seq 1 10) ; do echo $i ; done
[05:08] <catfox> soundray, star. thanks
[05:08] <soundray> cappiz, then you're out of luck.
[05:08] <amauryg> saludos
[05:08] <soundray> cappiz, the filesystem you're checking, is it mounted?
[05:08] <amauryg> yes
[05:09] <cappiz> soundray no
[05:09] <cappiz> its not mounted
[05:09] <instabin> how do i open a rar file in linux
[05:09] <instabin> !rar
[05:09] <ubotu> hmm... rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:10] <amauryg> saludos
[05:10] <farous> anyone having trouble with openoffice that it always start in max mode and most of the time out of screen?
[05:10] <cappiz> but is it possible to see if the started e2fsck -f is doing something ?
[05:10] <brukental> sound, do you know of a decent guid to tcp/ip especially at the packe level.. an introduction
[05:10] <brukental> cappiz, do jobs
[05:11] <soundray> cappiz, run top and see if it consumes CPU.
[05:11] <cappiz> it does
[05:11] <cappiz> from 2-7%
[05:11] <soundray> cappiz, can you see/hear hd activity?
[05:11] <cappiz> its not located at my place
[05:11] <soundray> cappiz, give me a sec...
[05:11] <cappiz> k :)
[05:12] <brukental> or just do ps -aux
[05:12] <tomasz> hi - I keep forgetting how to get rid of this GPG error massage (invalid signature) that happens perpeturally with package manager - what should I delete ??? (tanks)
[05:12] <cappiz> brukental it would show it started
[05:12] <cappiz> not if its hanging
[05:13] <soundray> cappiz, what do you actually see in the screen where the fsck is running?
[05:13] <cappiz> e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/itcrypt
[05:13] <cappiz> e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[05:13] <cappiz> Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[05:13] <cappiz> this
[05:14] <soundray> cappiz, how long has it been like that?
[05:14] <brukental> thats all?
[05:14] <cappiz> yeah
[05:14] <mod^> umm.. I can't get squirrelmail work
[05:14] <brukental> how about in top... is it consuming resources.
[05:14] <brukental> mod, lol
[05:14] <mod^> I followed this http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[05:15] <mod^> and now configtest.php says
[05:15] <mod^> Warning: fsockopen(): unable to connect to localhost:25 in /usr/share/squirrelmail/src/configtest.php on line 205
[05:15] <soundray> cappiz, how long has it been like that?
[05:15] <mod^>     ERROR: Error connecting to SMTP server "localhost:25".Server error: (110) Connection timed out
[05:15] <mod^> telnet localhost 25
[05:15] <mod^> doesn't do anything
[05:15] <cappiz> soundray i just started it when i aske in channel
[05:15] <mod^> but telnetting to my domain
[05:15] <mod^> it works
[05:15] <catfox> with the mail command, i can specify the to address and the subject, but still need to put the body in. is there a way of doing that automatically?
[05:15] <cappiz> asked*
[05:15] <Deepz> soundray: i tried what you suggested, but when i do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, it says no ndiswrapper module present
[05:15] <soundray> cappiz, how big is the fs you are checking?
[05:16] <cappiz> 1.2TB
[05:16] <gaylord> hello world
[05:16] <brukental> mod, is postfix running?
[05:16] <gaylord> g8m: hi
[05:16] <soundray> Deepz, can you paste output of 'uname -a' please
[05:16] <Deepz> yea
[05:17] <cappiz> screen -list
[05:17] <cappiz> There is a screen on:
[05:17] <cappiz> 16772.itcrypt (Attached)
[05:17] <cappiz> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-root.
[05:17] <Deepz> 2.6.12-10-386
[05:17] <mod^> brukental: err.. ps aux | grep postfix gives:
[05:17] <soundray> cappiz, what kind and frequency CPU is running the fsck?
[05:17] <mod^> /usr/sbin/saslauthd -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -a pam
[05:18] <mod^> ang the grep postfix -proccess
[05:18] <cappiz> P4 2,53
[05:18] <Angel_Dex> How do i get tabs in dillo? TT_TT
[05:18] <Amaranth_> i don't think you do
[05:18] <soundray> cappiz, and the fs is encrypted? I would give it at least 3 or 4 hours.
[05:18] <mod^> "/var/log/mail.log" says..
[05:18] <mod^>  postfix/master[29705] : fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 23: bad transport type: mime_header_checks=
[05:18] <brukental> do nestat -ln and see if anything is listening on port 25
[05:18] <soundray> cappiz, the question remains, though, why it's not detaching.
[05:19] <cappiz> soundray yeah.... np.. but im wondering why i cant detache it
[05:19] <cappiz> :P
[05:19] <brukental> and see if anything is listening on port 110
[05:19] <soundray> cappiz, are you connecting to the remote host via ssh?
[05:19] <cappiz> yeah...
[05:19] <mod^> tcp6       0      0 :::110                  :::*                    LISTEN
[05:19] <brukental> how about on 25
[05:20] <cappiz> thats why i wanna detache it
[05:20] <mod^> nothing for 25
[05:20] <soundray> cappiz, and do you run ssh in screen, or do you run screen on the remote, or both?
[05:20] <Jpan> hi all
[05:20] <Jpan> who can help me
[05:20] <cappiz> so in case my desktop here at hoem fucks up it will not fuck up the fsck
[05:20] <soundray> cappiz, language!
[05:20] <brukental> so then postfix is not running properly... it it starting at all... when you do /etc/init.d/postfix restart does it give you errors? or do you start postfix manually?
[05:20] <cappiz> ?
[05:20] <soundray> cappiz, and do you run ssh in screen, or do you run screen on the remote, or both?
[05:21] <cappiz> im connceted to server via putty... there i run a screen for the fsck
[05:21] <Jpan> i use soundmax
[05:21] <mod^> brukental: /etc/init.d/postfix restart just says "Stopping postfix" and "Starting postfix"
[05:21] <mod^> nothing special
[05:21] <crimsun> Jpan: what's the issue?
[05:21] <Deepz> soundray: uname -a = 2.6.12-10-386
[05:21] <brukental> but it starts postfix without errors?
[05:22] <soundray> cappiz, maybe putty is grabbing that Ctrl-A, so it's never transmitted all the way.
[05:22] <mod^> brukental: yes
[05:22] <brukental> restart postfix and check /var/log/messages, see if anything abnormals pops up..
[05:22] <cappiz> 23 mins
[05:22] <mod^> can I use tail -f /var/log/messages
[05:22] <mod^> :p
[05:23] <mod^> oh
[05:23] <cappiz> ah lets try... screen -R -D
[05:23] <cappiz> correct soundray?
[05:23] <mod^> nothing abnormal there
[05:23] <idefix_> is it oldfashioned to use webmail? do you use the ubuntu mailing system?
[05:23] <soundray> Yes, cappiz
[05:24] <brukental> yeah just tail /var/log/messages, see if anything pops up... I am installing postfix on this machine to check my config also.
[05:24] <mod^> oh
[05:24] <pdoran> ok newb question, how do I confugure apt to install KDE 3.5.1, the
[05:24] <idefix_> why does a "Link To Old Desktop" appear on my Desktop?
[05:25] <tortho> Anyone who knows how to reset the gnome settings/startup for a user? The desktop is fucked for a user, and if i create a new user it works for that one.
[05:25] <brukental> but postfix is not listening to port 25 which is wierd if it started normally and you havent changed what ports it should be listening to.
[05:25] <brukental> what do you have thats listening on 110?
[05:25] <brukental> cyrus or some sort of pop3 server?
[05:25] <soundray> Deepz, that's uname -r. Please post uname -a
[05:26] <soundray> Deepz, actually, never mind.
[05:26] <Died> Hello
[05:26] <cappiz> screen -R -D and nothing shows up there
[05:26] <cappiz> :S
[05:26] <cappiz> omg
[05:26] <mod^> hmm
[05:26] <Appelflap> Is there a linux that runs from fat or ntfs?
[05:26] <Appelflap> i dont wanna format any thing  :(
[05:26] <mod^> I can see :::110 when I write netstat -ln
[05:26] <brukental> eeeeewwwww
[05:27] <mod^> and courier is listening to something
[05:27] <Deepz> cant i just uninstall the updated kernel and revert back to 2.6.12-9-386 then re update
[05:27] <brukental> courier is listening to 110
[05:27] <Died> Does anybody know how I mount my ntfs file-sys? I want to get my data from there...
[05:27] <idefix_> to what e-mail-address do I send a gedit bug report?
[05:27] <soundray> cappiz, do not worry. If putty or the local workstation fails, screen will still protect your fsck session, provided that screen is okay, which it seems to be, considering that it's using CPU.
[05:27] <cappiz> soundray hum
[05:27] <cappiz> it did hang
[05:28] <idefix_> hey soundray
[05:28] <jessy> someone knows where can i find "glibc-headers" package for ubuntu breezy ?
[05:28] <cappiz> and i did a ctrl +c
[05:28] <soundray> Hey idefix_
[05:28] <cappiz> then i got some output
[05:28] <cappiz> :P
[05:28] <idefix_> where do I send my gedit bug report?
[05:28] <cappiz> do you mind me priv msg you that?
[05:28] <soundray> cappiz, go ahead.
[05:28] <mod^> should I remove courier and try dovecot or something?
[05:28] <brukental> this is what it should be tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:25              <IP_ADDRESS>:*
[05:28] <mod^> brukental: don't have that
[05:29] <brukental> humph...
[05:29] <chrissturm> hi! what do i have to do to start xgl after installing the new packages in dapper universe?
[05:29] <soundray> Deepz, can you run 'locate ndiswrapper.ko' please
[05:29] <mlistus> hi all
[05:29] <Deepz> ok
[05:29] <brukental> mod^: if postfix starts normally, it should be listening to port 25.... gah.
[05:30] <mod^> brukental: hmm.. It just says..
[05:30] <brukental> you running iptables or ipchains at all mod^?
[05:30] <mod^> * Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent...                                                                                [ ok ]
[05:30] <mod^>  * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent...                                                                                [ ok ]
[05:30] <mod^> brukental: nope
[05:31] <brukental> mod^: tail /var/log/messages, see if postfix has an entry in there... if it doesnt.. hang on.. looking it up
[05:31] <kwiat> hi there i need help: music (mp3, ogg etc) playback crackles while copying files from cd to harddisk! why? thanks!
[05:32] <mod^> brukental: nothing about postfix in /var/log/messages
[05:32] <brukental> mod^: what does this output? cat /etc/services | grep 25
[05:32] <soundray> Deeps, do you get a line similar to '/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'?
[05:32] <mlistus> is there any pointer about how to make a custom ubuntu install cd, with eventually a custom kernel, and custom packages?
[05:32] <mod^> smtp            25/tcp          mail
[05:32] <soundray> !info dfsbuild
[05:32] <ubotu> dfsbuild: (Build Debian From Scratch CD/DVD images), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.6.20 (breezy), Packaged size: 1047 kB, Installed size: 2920 kB
[05:33] <brukental> mod^: bleh... okay sec..
[05:33] <mlistus> does it build ubuntu cds (exact set)
[05:33] <soundray> Deepz, do you get a line similar to '/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'? Sorry misspelt nick.
[05:33] <mlistus> >
[05:33] <mlistus> ?
[05:33] <Deepz> sorry, i had to run other comp,
[05:33] <soundray> mlistus, read package description 'apt-cache show dfsbuild'
[05:33] <brukental> mod^: how about iptables -L
[05:34] <Deepz> i get this /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[05:34] <Deepz> its in the old kernel folder
[05:34] <mod^> target     prot opt source               destination
[05:34] <brukental> so no rules.....
[05:34] <mod^> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target     prot opt source               destination
[05:34] <mod^> nothing
[05:34] <Deepz> also /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko
[05:34] <mod^> should I try to reinstall postfix
[05:35] <kwiat> i would be glad if someone would help me with this problem: music (mp3, ogg etc) playback crackles (only) while copying files from cd to harddisk. could you imagine why? i'm using ubuntu breezy on dell inspiron 5150c.
[05:36] <mlistus> soundray: sorry! i thought it did smth like lfs... thanks a lot!
[05:37] <soundray> Deepz, I think you should run 'apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.12-10-386' and reboot.
[05:37] <soundray> mlistus, hope it helps.
[05:38] <mlistus> what about via unichrome status on ubuntu?
[05:38] <Deepz> ok, thanks man ill try it out
[05:39] <soundray> kwiat, this could be an IRQ conflict. Try changing the IRQ settings for the soundcard in the bios.
[05:40] <soundray> kwiat, it could also be HF crosstalk, in which case there's not much you can do, other than get a USB soundcard.
[05:40] <brukental> mod^: sorry had a phone call
[05:40] <mod^> no problem
[05:40] <Stormx2> Can someone tell me what gam_server is?
[05:40] <brukental> mod^: yeah just do it with aptitude
[05:40] <kwiat> soundray, thanks for you help
[05:40] <mod^> did it.. and nothing changed
[05:40] <kwiat> soundray what is hf crosstalk?
[05:40] <soundray> mlistus, so-so. It works, but without acceleration, iirc.
[05:40] <kwiat> (sorry)
[05:41] <mod^> hmm
[05:41] <mod^> telnet localhost 25 -> timeout
[05:41] <soundray> kwiat, hf = high (radio) frequency. Emitted by electronic devices, can interfere with sound transmission.
[05:41] <mod^> telnet mydomain 25 -> it works
[05:41] <mod^> hmm
[05:41] <brukental> huh that could be your problem sec..
[05:41] <soundray> kwiat, crosstalk = interference (roughly)
[05:42] <mod^> I'll re-run squirrelmail-configure
[05:42] <power-puff-boy> hello where am I
[05:42] <Spliffster> yo dudes, can anyone tell me what the ubuntu kernel uses: ipfilter, ipfw, iptables, PF (prolly not this is *bsd) ... ?
[05:42] <ompaul> in #ubuntu
[05:42] <brukental> mod^: what are the first few lines of /etc/hosts?
[05:43] <soundray> Spliffster, iptables
[05:43] <mod^> power-puff-boy: updatedb && locate power-puff-boy
[05:43] <Spliffster> soundray: thanks alot
[05:43] <soundray> mod^, :)
[05:43] <mod^> <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost.localdomain   localhost
[05:43] <mod^> my-ip-here       my-domain-here
[05:43] <mod^> the other line
[05:43] <soundray> !info whereami
[05:43] <ubotu> whereami: (Automatically reconfigure your (laptop) system for a new location), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.3.20 (breezy), Packaged size: 57 kB, Installed size: 416 kB
[05:44] <xerox_> What does it mean when packages are 'kept back' from an upgrade?
[05:45] <brukental> mod^: try putting your domain at the end of the first line, after localhost
[05:45] <yanimax> I'm getting the error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13), mysql is running and the sock file exists... I'm using dapper and just upgraded to mysql 5, does anyone know why?
[05:45] <mlistus> soundray: yes, that's when using vesa driver, the problem at install is that debconf chooses via driver that doesnt work...
[05:45] <jenda> xerox_: basically, it means they are not upgraded, because something needs the older version
[05:45] <mod^> brukental: ok
[05:45] <soundray> mlistus, is this a very recent card/board?
[05:46] <soundray> mlistus, via driver works reasonably well here.
[05:46] <zulfiqar> i have a usbdrive and delete some file after it was full but still uniunt doesnot reflect the correct free space and shows full, please help!
[05:46] <mod^> doesn't work
[05:46] <xerox_> jenda: is there a way to try to understand what's going on and fix it?
[05:47] <zulfiqar> uniunt=ubuntu
[05:47] <brukental> mod^: cat /etc/services | grep telnet... see if that line, for port 23 is commented out.
[05:48] <jenda> It's not necessarily a mistake, xerox_. It will probabbly fix itself once the depending package is updated
[05:48] <mlistus> soundray: yes, the mobo is a month or 2 old
[05:48] <xerox_> jenda: OK.  Thank you very much for the informations.
[05:48] <fdr> zulfiqar, try emptying the recycle bin
[05:48] <jenda> xerox_: anytime
[05:48] <soundray> zulfiqar, there is some reserved space. df shows 100% usage when there is still 5% space (to which only root can then write).
[05:48] <mod^> brukental: Its not commented
[05:49] <zulfiqar> rdr : i did it .. nothing dpoing .. on windows it shows correct empty space but on ubuntu it doesnot
[05:49] <brukental> mod^: usually if you can telnet to your domain to port 25, and not localhost it means that resolution to localhost is not done correctly.
[05:49] <mod^> hmm
[05:49] <zulfiqar> fdr i mean
[05:49] <brukental> mod^: let me look at my config...
[05:50] <Deepz> soundray: i uninstalled the new kernel and reverted back, now ndiswrapper works and i have net access again, ill try to reinstall the kernel maybe it was faulty
[05:50] <soundray> mlistus, ask Via to release specs to support free driver development. Meantime, best stick with VESA.
[05:50] <Deepz> thanks for your time
[05:50] <Deepz> :)
[05:50] <brukental> mod^: but you can telnet to port 25 by telneting to your domain? and does it give you postfix?
[05:50] <zulfiqar> soundray  : i have 100GB harddisk and 50GB is empty now ... df -h shows 100% used
[05:50] <brukental> mod^: like this... Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[05:50] <brukental> Connected to localhost.localdomain.
[05:50] <brukental> Escape character is '^] '.
[05:50] <brukental> 220 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[05:50] <zulfiqar> on windows it reflects the correct emapty space
[05:51] <mod^> gah. now it says telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[05:51] <soundray> Deepz, okay. This 'locate' command clearly showed that something hadn't installed properly.
[05:51] <Deepz> yep
[05:51] <soundray> zulfiqar, hmm...
[05:52] <Deepz> when you update to a new kernel, does it automatically copy over your modules to the new kernel directories
[05:52] <soundray> zulfiqar, what if you unmount and remount it. Same problem on df -h?
[05:52] <brukental> mod^: okay try reinstalling postfix using aptitutde.
[05:52] <Deepz> so ndisdwrapper should work by itself without any need for recompilation right?
[05:52] <zulfiqar> I'm trying to defrag the drive on windows and then once done i will check again
[05:52] <soundray> Deepz, yes.
[05:52] <Deepz> ok tnx
[05:52] <brukental> mod^: remove it, do apt-get update, and run aptitude again to reinstall postfix.
[05:52] <zulfiqar> yes tried it on diffent ubuntu PCs
[05:52] <zulfiqar> same result
[05:53] <zulfiqar> checked the forums ... some other poepl have had the same problem but could not find a solution
[05:53] <soundray> zulfiqar, vfat filesystem?
[05:53] <zulfiqar> yes vfat created by Gparted
[05:53] <slashzul> hello
[05:53] <nlindblad> hi
[05:54] <slashzul> is there a way to install ubuntu with just files starting w/ a windows computer?
[05:54] <slashzul> I dont have a cdrom that works
[05:54] <slashzul> nor a floppy
[05:55] <poningru> slashzul: hmm not sure
[05:55] <poningru> hold on
[05:55] <Deepz> hi
[05:55] <slashzul> so Id have to install via files
[05:55] <poningru> !netboot
[05:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, netboot is a method of installing Ubuntu over a network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[05:55] <Deepz> yea
[05:55] <slashzul> now that might work, I do have a way to boot from network....
[05:55] <Deepz> sorry that was my little brother
[05:56] <brukental> anybody have a decent book or an online guide or helpbook to TCP/IP at the packet level?
[05:56] <Deepz> how
[05:56] <AntMaz> i have a question how do i log on as the admin i tried admin root and administrators and administration , i cant log on in shell cause i have a virus but i cant get rid of the virus cause i it says permission is denied
[05:56] <Deepz> i will chek
[05:56] <brukental> ant: this is on a winblows box?
[05:57] <poningru> slashzul: you need a boot floppy
[05:57] <slashzul> yep
[05:57] <poningru> unfortunately
[05:57] <AntMaz> negative im on ubuntu
[05:57] <brukental> you cannot log on as rot?
[05:57] <brukental> *root?
[05:57] <m0wax> AntMaz are you sure you have a virus on ubuntu?  I think your lying
[05:57] <AntMaz> nope
[05:57] <slashzul> i should be able to download the boot files and modify XP to start the batch file
[05:57] <poningru> AntMaz: thats not a virus
[05:57] <dle> Does anyone know why USNs are released before the repositories are upgraded?
[05:58] <poningru> !root
[05:58] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:58] <AntMaz> yea im positive i did a scan its some email virus it probably got in cause i installed wine
[05:58] <m0wax> It will be a windows virus tho
[05:58] <m0wax> doesn't actually affect linux
[05:58] <amphi> brukental: Stevens's TCP/IP Illustrated Vol. 1 is online somewhere, I found it a while back; soryy, no url, but it's the canonical reference
[05:58] <brukental> ant: remove your .wine directory.
[05:58] <mlistus> brb
[05:58] <brukental> amphi: thanks so much, will look for it online!!! =)
[05:59] <poningru> slashzul: hold on
[05:59] <AntMaz> well its effecting mine , i cant gointo shell and type sudo ,well i cant but it doesnt ask me for the pass word
[05:59] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[05:59] <poningru> slashzul: look at that
[05:59] <m0wax> AntMaz I seriously doubt its a virus for linux.  It would be very difficult unless you have been reading your mail as root.....have you?
[06:00] <AntMaz> no
[06:00] <brukental> m0: lol
[06:00] <AntMaz> here
[06:00] <AntMaz> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[06:00] <AntMaz> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid]
[06:00] <AntMaz>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[06:00] <AntMaz> anthony@ubuntu:~$
[06:00] <AntMaz> thats what i get
[06:00] <poningru> AntMaz: you didnt type the command after it did you?
[06:01] <AntMaz> no
[06:01] <poningru> AntMaz: what are you trying to do?
[06:01] <m0wax> what command are you typing to get that?
[06:01] <brukental> ant: sudo nmap -v yahoo.com
[06:01] <brukental> ant: try that.
[06:01] <AntMaz> just sudo and usually its asked for the password but not anymore
[06:01] <poningru> AntMaz: well it shouldnt have been
[06:01] <poningru> AntMaz: you are supposed to do
[06:01] <poningru> sudo somecommand
[06:01] <brukental> ant: root password is remembered for 5 minutes or so after the first time you do sudo with a password
[06:02] <AntMaz> cammand not found
[06:02] <brukental> lol
[06:02] <brukental> ant: what are you trying to do?
[06:02] <hmpedersen> hey
[06:02] <brukental> what command are you trying to run as root?
[06:02] <AntMaz> type the command what poningru told me to
[06:02] <idefix_> what's the alternative for maple in ubuntu?
[06:03] <zulfiqar> any other suggestion for my problem ?
[06:03] <hmpedersen> How do i change the resolution?
[06:03] <brukental> ant: yes, but what is your ultimate goal, what are you trying to accomplish, what are you trying to do?
[06:03] <AntMaz> hmped  system->preferences-> screen resolution
[06:04] <brukental> ant: you do not have a virus... dont worry.
[06:04] <hmpedersen> AntMaz, yeah.. then my monitor starts flickering, and when it stops, it reverts to the current res..
[06:04] <AntMaz> try 1024x768
[06:05] <hmpedersen> thats the current.. I need 800x600
[06:05] <AntMaz> or just lower the frequzy (damn i cant spell)
[06:06] <AntMaz> im trying to get rid of this virus but i cant cause iwhen i sellect quarintine it says i dont have permission
[06:06] <AntMaz> hm lower your freqrecy to 60 or 70 hertz
[06:07] <hmpedersen> difficult.. allready at 60
[06:07] <cannibal> hi
[06:07] <AntMaz> get a new monitor haha
[06:07] <AntMaz> ok try going to 85
[06:08] <cannibal> anybody know of any good guides on installing programs to ubuntu?
[06:08] <hmpedersen> ant, im running ubuntu on vmware, i would like to run it in a window without scrollbars, thats not possible unless i lower the resolution.. I saw others having this problem a while ago..
[06:08] <dle> cannibal - What do you mean?
[06:08] <nowotny> hello... does anyone know if there is a way to check what so intensively writes to my HDD...?
[06:08] <cannibal> X_X im noob---
[06:08] <brukental> now: top
[06:08] <cannibal> barely installed this todayy
[06:08] <AntMaz> i dont know then im into ubuntu about 5 days now
[06:08] <hmpedersen> k
[06:09] <dle> cannibal - System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:09] <AntMaz> so how can i log in as the root or what ever it is on the boot up screen
[06:10] <dle> cannibal - if you want to learn about the command-line, that's another matter. Since you say you're a newbie, I ssume you don't want to.
[06:10] <mnoir> cannibal - you might start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:10] <cannibal> ok
[06:10] <cannibal> thank you
[06:10] <AntMaz> read everything cannibal corpse
[06:10] <Xenguy> dle: an unreasonable assumption IMHO  ;-)
[06:10] <JloR> hmm, I wonder why I can't use SMP kernels 2.6 with dapper..
[06:10] <alamba> hi all...can anyone suggest me a good dvd ripper in ubuntu repositories?
[06:10] <JloR> must be something they haven't looked at yet :)
[06:10] <nowotny> brukental: top doesn't show the amount of data written to the HDD AFAIK... does it...?
[06:10] <cannibal> :P
[06:10] <dle> Xenguy - What do you know, you big berk?!?
[06:10] <amphi> alamba: acidrip is a decent FE to mencoder
[06:11] <Xenguy> dle: heh - good to see you too ;-)
[06:11] <AntMaz> yo bruk you got any segestions
[06:11] <amphi> nowotny: no
[06:11] <dle> Xenguy - ;-P
[06:12] <nowotny> amphi: that's what I thought... any other ideas... :/
[06:12] <alamba> amphi: thanks! out of curiosity..whats fe and mencoder?
[06:12] <mnoir> Ant - one of the good things about ubuntu is that it disables direct root login in favor of sudo
[06:12] <AntMaz> any one now how to log in as the root user beside in shell
[06:12] <amphi> nowotny: procinfo perhaps
[06:12] <brukental> ant: suggestsions on what?
[06:13] <mnoir> there is never a need to login directly as root anyhow
[06:13] <hmpedersen> Ant, you can't login as root
[06:13] <hmpedersen> unless you add a root password, that is..
[06:13] <hmpedersen> just use sudo
[06:13] <AntMaz> sudo dont work
[06:13] <hmpedersen> (superuser do)
[06:13] <mnoir> read in the ubuntu literature for a discussion of this
[06:13] <brukental> ant: if you have not set a root password yet, do sudo passwd
[06:13] <AntMaz> cause i have a virus
[06:13] <hmpedersen> ant, use sudo passwd root
[06:13] <hmpedersen> that'll let you create a password
[06:14] <hmpedersen> dinner's ready
[06:14] <amphi> brukental: did you answer my PM?
[06:14] <brukental> amphi: yes..
[06:14] <amphi> brukental: ah... you are not identified to services, so you can't PM
[06:15] <brukental> amphi: ack, let me do that.
[06:15] <AntMaz> hm then i can log in as root
[06:15] <disastorm> hey
[06:16] <brukental> amphi: forgot how to register so I can do PM...
[06:16] <amphi> brukental: /msg nickserv help
[06:16] <AntMaz> bruk after i update the root password i can log in as root
[06:17] <keherman> i have a remote HP LaserJet 8000dn printer that I want every app to print double-sided on!
[06:17] <keherman> how?
[06:17] <brukental> amphi: done.
[06:17] <KoruptidPryde> does lspci also list pcmcia adapters?
[06:17] <i3dmaster> how to install .udeb package?
[06:17] <brukental> amphi: you getting my PM now?
[06:17] <xxenon> KoruptidPryde - yes.
[06:17] <AntMaz> well ill just try it out later
[06:18] <SeyToN> when i play mpeg files on mplayer i cant put it in full screen any ideas why?
[06:18] <lennart> how can I set the root password in ubuntu?
[06:18] <KoruptidPryde> xxenon: hmmmm... any ideas why what I connected wouldn't be showing up?
[06:18] <xxenon> KoruptidPryde - nope ...
[06:18] <i3dmaster> lennart, sudo su -, and then passwd
[06:18] <lennart> k thnx
[06:18] <Niekie> Why not sudo -i
[06:19] <Niekie> Spawns a root shell ;)
[06:19] <SeyToN> anyone?
[06:19] <i3dmaster> Niekie, pretty much the same
[06:19] <xxenon> SeyToN - edit your mplayer.conf and set vo=xv
[06:19] <Niekie> Indeed.
[06:19] <yaaar> word
[06:20] <i3dmaster> Niekie, hey do you know how to install .udeb package?
[06:20] <yaaar> anybody round here use pppoe? i configured it with pppoeconf, and it works fine, except it doesn't start on boot.....i have to re-run it each time....
[06:20] <Profichilla> Where do applications search for the standard browser? in the settings in the gnome menu, firefox is set. Nevertheless, some links open in that horrible Konqueror browser.
[06:22] <mnoir> Prof - many programs have their own config preference for browser
[06:22] <Niekie> i3dmaster, I'm afraid not.
[06:23] <i3dmaster> Niekie, ok np. Anyone here knows how to install udeb package?
[06:24] <Profichilla> mnoir should a simple link in the quodlibet infobox have a preference of its own? :/
[06:24] <SeyToN> i reckon its my video card :(
[06:25] <mnoir> I don't know quodlibet so I am not sure
[06:25] <keherman> can someone help me to get my printing double-sided?
[06:25] <keherman> im using cups
[06:25] <meisam> hi guys
[06:25] <keherman> and a remote laserjet printer
[06:25] <mnoir> try googling quodlibet browser pref?
[06:26] <SeyToN> weeeeeeehaaaaaaaa i fixed :P
[06:26] <thegladiator> hello folkz
[06:26] <meisam> Hi guys can i install SQLserver 2000 on ubuntu?
[06:26] <SeyToN> cheers xxenon
[06:27] <thegladiator> i installed the gtk theme but I dont get that golden look
[06:27] <thegladiator> it looks as usual actually
[06:27] <LinuxJones> OMG I just installed Dapper on my new laptop it is awesome, everything works :)
[06:27] <thegladiator> i am using the e17 theme sorry didnt mention that
[06:27] <thegladiator> e17 metactiy is working
[06:28] <thegladiator> and it used to work before as well I guess , but ever since i installed application themes from art manager in gnome
[06:28] <meisam> is it possible to use sql on ubuntu?
[06:28] <thegladiator> i feel that the ordinary control themes are not really working
[06:28] <thegladiator> ofcourse meisam why not
[06:28] <thegladiator> ?
[06:29] <LinuxJones> meisam: yes mysql and postgresql and a thousand others are available.
[06:29] <meisam> thegladiator i mean sql server 2000
[06:29] <Sonobana> why do you want use that
[06:29] <meisam> i need to work on microsoft exams
[06:29] <thegladiator> yeah there are open source substistutes
[06:29] <meisam> certifications
[06:30] <amphi> meisam: you mean run ms sql server? you'd need to run windows under qemu I expect
[06:30] <meisam> MCDBA
[06:30] <meisam> but i dun wanna use windows
[06:30] <thegladiator> not sure if that is possible . mayb you shud put a question into the forums actually
[06:30] <mnoir> u prolly do not want to be on a non MS system then
[06:30] <amphi> meisam: well, ask MS to port MS SQL Server to linux
[06:30] <thegladiator> i'd say for the mcse stick to windows and then swthc over when you are done with the exams
[06:31] <mnoir> MCDBA is mostly about adminning MS products
[06:31] <meisam> guyssssss hold on
[06:31] <meisam> i know all these thingssssssss
[06:31] <yaaar> meisam: short answer: NO
[06:31] <meisam> i know
[06:31] <meisam> i just asked if i can
[06:31] <thegladiator> can someone explian how do I know what is the gtk engin that I am using etc ?
[06:32] <Sonobana> why do you need to know
[06:32] <meisam> all right could u tell me how can i install mysql on ubuntu
[06:32] <Sonobana> meisam: apt-get install mysql
[06:32] <thegladiator> i installed the e17 gtk theme and its not looking et all like the screenshot!
[06:32] <meisam> thats all?
[06:32] <Sonobana> yeah
[06:32] <thegladiator> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28051
[06:32] <kemcco> mesiam - use MySql 5
[06:32] <thegladiator> this is not what me dektop looks like when I install tat one!
[06:32] <yaaar> Sonobana: he's trying to study for M$ exams....he definitely doesn't need to get his practice on MySQL
[06:32] <Sonobana> i quess you have to config it before running ;)
[06:33] <amphi> meisam: you might be better off with postgresql unless you have a particular need for mysql
[06:33] <Sonobana>  < meisam> all right could u tell me how can i install mysql on ubuntu
[06:33] <thegladiator> my deskie doesnt seem to bothered about the theme installed !
[06:33] <meisam> kemcco why..is that the latest one..can u give me the command
[06:33] <yaaar> meisam: you can't run MS SQL on Linux
[06:33] <Angel_Dex> hey
[06:33] <meisam> yaaar ok i understood
[06:33] <kemcco> Google the forums, I found it in there.
[06:33] <JloR> !xgl
[06:33] <ubotu> Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper.
[06:34] <meisam> guys u r telling me many things....
[06:34] <meisam> i need to work with the commands of sql
[06:34] <meisam> tell me sth suitable
[06:34] <yaaar> meisam: perhaps it's because you are asking many things that don't correspond to each other
[06:34] <Angel_Dex> any programs that i can use to view somones webcam?
[06:35] <mnoir> meisam - there are a pile of tools and tricks - you may want to study the ubuntu forums - mysql is not hard to setup and is pretty good
[06:35] <meisam> yaaar all right.. i forgot about MS...just tell me the mysql or whatever u think its suitable
[06:36] <meisam> mnoir all right
[06:36] <mnoir> the forums are friendly - not like us  :)
[06:36] <meisam> mnoir u r as well
[06:36] <thegladiator> i installed the e17 gtk theme and its not looking et all like the screenshot!
[06:36] <thegladiator> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=28051
[06:36] <thegladiator> can someone help me out there ?
[06:36] <hmpedersen> Anyone know why i can't lower the resolution?
[06:37] <yaaar> meisam: the commands have different syntax, my/postgresql are connection/socket based and MS isn't, they all 3 have different capabilities/features, and there are probably a dozen other inconsistencies that I don't even know about. If you are trying to learn MS SQL for certification purposes, the ONLY thing you want to learn on is MS Windows with MS SQL server!
[06:37] <thegladiator> it used to work before Iinstalled few theme from art-manager
[06:37] <mnoir> yaaar - good point....
[06:38] <meisam> yaaar is it ok with u something off topic...just a little question
[06:38] <yaaar> meisam: on the other hand, if you "don't want to use Windows" then what are you doing studying for their certs?
[06:38] <thegladiator> application theme , now some contrl gtk theme are not workin as it is supoposded to be!
[06:38] <yaaar> meisam: sure
[06:38] <thegladiator> well it seems all the folks are celebrating v day!
[06:39] <foopub> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and it's using 640x480 for some reason. If I go to System > Preferences > Screen Resolution, it is the only option. However, if I look at xorg.conf, 1024x768 is the only option listed. Anyone know what might be wrong?
[06:39] <meisam> yaaar can i install MS sql 2000 on MS XP
[06:39] <yaaar> meisam: not sure; haven't run windows in several years
[06:39] <KoruptidPryde> anybody know why a PCMCIA wireless card wouldn't be identifying correctly with "cardctl ident"?
[06:39] <mlistus> meisam: yes, you can
[06:39] <foopub> (I tried to force it to 1024x768 by removing 800x600 and 640x480 from the list.)
[06:39] <mlistus> meisam: it works mostly flawlessly
[06:39] <kemcco> mesiam  You might want to find a MS chat room.
[06:39] <meisam> mlistus sure?
[06:40] <eroz> can anyone help me to get a working cedega timedemo key plz?
[06:40] <mlistus> meisam: absolutely! i saw an install on an xp machine that lasted 3years.
[06:40] <yaaar> so, now for a really simple question....i can't remember the command debian/ubuntu uses to manage which /etc/init.d scripts start on boot......anyone? (the equiv. of rc-update on gentoo)
[06:40] <meisam> kemcco im not talking to u
[06:40] <amphi> yaaar: update-rc.d
[06:40] <fsloser> hi guys... i'm on with the live-breezy. yesterday a regula fsck somehow killed my system (or probably the k7 kernel). anyway, i couldn't mount the drive anymore. i ran fsck -y and have all my files in lost+found now. but the dirs are renamed. how should i proceed? move the dirs to root and rename them? or copy them to a new partition and reinstall the system?
[06:41] <yaaar> amphi: awesome. thanks
[06:41] <meisam> mlistus thankssssss so much
[06:41] <amphi> meisam: that may be, but you are very much offtopic
[06:41] <mlistus> meisam: youre welcome.
[06:41] <hmpedersen> foopub, how'd you get it to run at anything lower than 1024x768 in the first place?
[06:41] <foopub> hmpedersen: That is what it defaulted to
[06:41] <mlistus> meisam: btw, if you manage to get mssql2k running on wine, i'd be interested!
[06:41] <KoruptidPryde> fsloser: I'd back up the important files and then reinstall
[06:42] <meisam> amphi i had permission coz i asked the guys gentely
[06:42] <hmpedersen> foopub, i'm attempting to change resolution to 800x600.. But screen just flickers for 30 seconds, then jumps back to 1024x768 :(
[06:42] <foopub> hmpedersen: Nothing else is even only my list
[06:43] <meisam> all right everybody thanks
[06:43] <fsloser> probably the best idea... but would it be possible to boot from that disk again if i'd mv the folders to root and rename them correctly?
[06:43] <foopub> hmpedersen: 640x480 is just 1024x768 except it's all displayed in a box in the middle of the screen
[06:43] <fsloser> only the main folders are renamed to something like #999999, inside they are still the same
[06:43] <mod^> brukental: Are you still here? If it's possible, could you give yours /etc/postfix/master.cf?
[06:43] <KoruptidPryde> any guesses as to why a PCMCIA wireless adapter (WPC54G) would show "no product info availible" on a "cardctl ident"?
[06:46] <mabus06> I insalled a driver for my DWL-G520 rev b on windows in order to get it to work with airopeek, and it made my device not be able to start properly. Is this a hardware problem do you think, or could I use ubuntu to use my card to learn more about my wireless network by snorting traffic?
[06:46] <meisam> mlistus this is the error i got : meisam@ubuntumeisam:~$ apt-get install mysql
[06:46] <meisam> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:46] <meisam> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:46] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: i'd verify that the thing isn't broken first  ;)
[06:47] <Angel_Dex> ugh
[06:47] <hmpedersen> Anyone got any suggestions how to force ubuntu to run 800x600
[06:47] <hmpedersen> +?
[06:47] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: PCMCIA adapter?
[06:47] <keherman> how can i print double-sided?
[06:47] <fsloser> why dont you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:47] <foopub> fsloser: I did
[06:47] <fsloser> or simply run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:47] <LinuxJones> KoruptidPryde: >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645    might be of some help to you.
[06:47] <hmpedersen> fsloser, thanx.. i hadn't thought of that..
[06:47] <foopub> fsloser: Did that too
[06:48] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde : PCI card, DWL-G520 rev b (a dlink)
[06:48] <hmpedersen> Have been preinstalling laptops with windows all day... A lil tired
[06:48] <foopub> Err, sorry... I'm stuck at 640x480 and want to get to 1024x768
[06:48] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: at console use lspci and make sure the device is listing
[06:48] <meisam> mlistus r u there?
[06:48] <fsloser> foopub, do you have a shared mem video chip?
[06:48] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: I'm not on ubuntu right now but I know it works for browsing the web etc, that isn't the problem.
[06:49] <yaaar> anybody know how to make my pppoe connection start on boot? i ran pppoeconf, and when it asked if i wanted it to start on boot i said yes, but it doesn't....i have to re-run pppoeconf each time. i tried 'update-rc.d ppp defaults' but it said the startup scripts were already added to the runlevel....
[06:49] <mlistus> meisam: yes?
[06:49] <mlistus> meisam: you should be root.
[06:49] <meisam>  did u get the previews message i sent u?
[06:49] <mlistus> meisam:  if u're on ubuntu: sudo apt-get install mysql
[06:50] <meisam> mlistus im on ubuntu
[06:50] <foopub> fsloser: Not sure. It's a laptop.
[06:50] <foopub> fsloser: Intel chipset and graphics card I believe, so chances aren't small
[06:50] <bluefoxicy> 8)
[06:51] <AstralJava> Hi all. I wanted to test a newer evolution than what Breezy has. I've installed evolution-data-server-1.5.91, but how can I make it running? Evolution-data-server-1.4 refuses to die, and I wouldn't want to see it pop up again after boot up. How can I configure my system to use the newer data-server?
[06:51] <Angel_Dex> ubuntu seems to be hiding a file from me that i dont need anymore I created it for a Extention its a text doc with .rip for the ext how do i delete it?
[06:51] <fsloser> i had the same problem with an old computer once, and the solution were adding some missing lines in xorg.conf
[06:51] <hmpedersen> right.. I'll try it
[06:52] <fsloser> i think vertical sync and that stuff
[06:52] <fsloser> additionally i'd check the bios if enough mem is set for the vga card in case it's a shared chip
[06:52] <fsloser> and try the vesa driver
[06:53] <meisam> mlistus would u take a look? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8704
[06:53] <bluefoxicy> So
[06:53] <bluefoxicy> I have a question
[06:53] <bluefoxicy> in the face of a system that's now broken
[06:53] <bluefoxicy> would it be useful to be able to go to grub and say
[06:54] <bluefoxicy> "Reset to default install"
[06:54] <bluefoxicy> and in about 10 seconds have your system set back to the day it was installed?
[06:54] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: what is the issue then?
[06:54] <bluefoxicy> all programs and files on / back in place?
[06:54] <meisam> mlistus what should i do?
[06:55] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: I want to be able to snort traffic from my router without connecting to it.
[06:55] <munzir> hi, I installed ubuntu and downloaded a kubuntu iso, can I install kubuntu from the iso without burning it??
[06:55] <kp_> Hi all.
[06:55] <ardinary> hi kp_
[06:56] <kp_> Sladen you in here?
[06:56] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: where does the data that grub would use to repopulate the system come from?
[06:56] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: have you verified that your card is supported to do that?..... (if you are using ndiswrappers than the odds are slim)
[06:56] <cyphase> xserver-xgl got added to Dapper :D
[06:57] <cyphase> one can hope..
[06:57] <MrRio> cyphase: really?
[06:58] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  the system.
[06:58] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: i'd let this pie-in-the-sky idea go.
[06:58] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  I made a post on ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-users about outmoding CDs, and threw that in there for effect.
[06:58] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  it also takes up less space, and has effectively been proven.
[06:58] <meisam> mlistus u still there?
[06:58] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  we already do it in a more limited form.
[06:58] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: Well there was a driver on the site designed exactly for my model card (including the rev B part, which apparently according to google throws people off) but as I said it made my card not work. This was for windows, though. How would I find out if the hardware is capable? It is a DWL-G520 Rev b
[06:59] <pcadmin> munzir: do a  "aptitude search kde "   to see if the kde desktop is in your apt-get mirror
[06:59] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  You sound like a poor man with no vision :)
[06:59] <KoruptidPryde> maddler: investigate what type of chipset it uses
[06:59] <beerockxs> can anyone help me to get gtk1 apps work with unicode chars?
[06:59] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: look, you're trying to come up with something to restore a hosed system to "normal" but your script won't know how it's screwed up. so it needs to have a pristine copy of the data from *somewhere* ....you can't just have it "fix magically"
[06:59] <beerockxs> i hate it that umlauts don't display correctly in the menus
[06:59] <KoruptidPryde> if it uses atheros then you should be fine
[06:59] <pdoran>  I added the kde 3.5.1 repositiory and did a apt-get upgrade / update
[06:59] <pdoran> when I so a  apt-get upgrade, it lists many kde poackages as being "kept back"
[06:59] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: you sound like a guy with plenty of vision and no clue what he's talking about
[06:59] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  I have a pristine copy of the data ;)
[07:00] <pdoran> how do I tell apt to not "keep back" these packages?
[07:00] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: that's a different story
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  you probably have the answer sitting right in front of you somewhere :)
[07:00] <sm> good morning! how do I list installed packages at the command line and see the *complete* version, unlike dpkg -l ?
[07:00] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: but when i asked where the data was coming from....you said "the system" .....which is boneheaded
[07:00] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: look on the manufacturers site for detailed specs and checkto see what chipset it uses
[07:00] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: It does use atheros
[07:00] <SeyToN> how come when i took a screenshot watching a video doesnt appear on the photo?
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  No, it works.  Think about it for a second.  you install the system then make changes, those changes break it so you want to go back to the way it was when it was installed, right?
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  What does this sound like?
[07:01] <mabus06> KoruptidPrydethat's the difference between rev a and b, b uses atheros... but the windows driver made my card unusable.. so do you know if I can find a driver for that card that wil llet me snort on ubuntu?
[07:01] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: then you should be able to do just about everything with it under linux
[07:01] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  no ideas?
[07:01] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: this isn't worth wasting my time over; bug somebody else about it
[07:01] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  LiveCD.
[07:01] <KoruptidPryde> mabus06: i'd try a iwlist scan to verify your card is scanning and such properly
[07:02] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  We use a compressed root unionfs'd on top of a tmpfs for a livecd.  But what if you use a physical disk partition with a real filesystem, instead of a tmpfs?
[07:02] <bluefoxicy> yaaar:  Break it?  Format that real file system and what happens?
[07:02] <mabus06> KoruptidPryde: Hold that thought, must reboot into ubuntu.
[07:02] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: if the only end-result of you "brand new system" is to put a system back to it's originally installed state, what's the point? Use the install disc
[07:02] <lennart> if I want to compile "binutils-<IP_ADDRESS>.6" it says this after running configure: configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[07:02] <lennart> Can anyone help me with this problem?
[07:02] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, what advantage does your magical 'restore to back when i installed it' have over simply, reinstalling the system?
[07:03] <farous> lennart: install build-essential package
[07:03] <lennart> farous where can I install that?
[07:03] <bluefoxicy> MrRio, yaaar:  sure, the install disc.  Run back through partitioning, pick out which partitions I was using before, set which to format, wait 45 minutes to an hour to have packages installed. . . . . .
[07:03] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, the solution your looking for is called a backup
[07:03] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get a selection for suspend-to-ram into the gnome shutdown dialog?
[07:03] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  Or hit "Reset to default install," wait about 10 seconds for mkfs to run, system reboots, back to the first grub I saw.
[07:03] <beerockxs> i only have one for hibernation
[07:03] <farous> lennart: use synaptic
[07:03] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  a "backup" will require extra space and/or more physical media.
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  it also requires more time, as you have to actually write all of the files to disk again.
[07:04] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, and the performance overhead of having a unionfs with and overlay filesystem is not worth it
[07:04] <yaaar> bluefoxicy: perhaps i can interest you in my new tcp/ip pipe scrubber?
[07:04] <meisam> guys im recieving this messages would u tell me what i sholud do : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8705
[07:05] <Gambit-> hey guys
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  Ah, the old "This isn't worth the time" argument, just like SELinux's 10-15% overhead wasn't worth it, and the mass overhead of PaX wasn't worth it either
[07:05] <Gambit-> I'm trying to burn a dvd, but cdrecord is saying it can't open /dev/pg* or a scsi driver, any suggestions?
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  these days though, someone DID implement SELinux and PaX, and eventually SELinuix has now about a 0.1% overhead and PaX's stuff barely puts 0.2% extra strain on the CPU. . .
[07:05] <beerockxs> anyone?
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  try using arguments that aren't so hollow.
[07:06] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Hey anyone know what i can use for a FTP Mangager???
[07:06] <MrRio> bluefoxicy: hollow?? im not saying the idea is bad, just the implementation
[07:06] <farous> bluefoxicy: this is a support channel your chat is better in offtopic
[07:06] <decaf> meisam: this means "mysql" provided by another package. for example mysql41. use synaptica or aptitude to install real mysql package
[07:06] <zAo^> [Ubuntu] Bug: try gftp
[07:06] <[Ubuntu] Bug> Cause Mozilla isn't working with my FTP Site
[07:07] <bluefoxicy> farous:  or dev, but i'm banned from there.  heh.
[07:07] <[Ubuntu] Bug> TY
[07:07] <Gambit-> Actually, is there a better dvd burning program then dvdrecord, or do I just need to recompile the kernel or something equivilent to get a scsi device?
[07:07] <munzir> pcadmin: the issue is I don't have internet access from that pc and I need to use the CD
[07:07] <bluefoxicy> farous:  i threw it at the mailing list too though
[07:07] <farous> bluefoxicy: than you have done your share
[07:07] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, if i were to implement a restore-point style system, a method that only allows you to go back to square one seems useless
[07:08] <jetscreamer> use k3b
[07:08] <Gambit-> ah nevermind, needed to specify the right device... hah.
[07:08] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  If you think the implementation is poor, but the idea is good, then don't attack the idea  :)
[07:08] <KoruptidPryde> jetscreamer: gnomebaker
[07:08] <bluefoxicy> MrRio: Yeah, a restore point style system would be neat.  They're more complex, but neat.  Of course, you still have the issue of corrupted restore points (happens in XP all the time. . .)
[07:08] <admin-sij> hellow
[07:09] <admin-sij> hola
[07:09] <jetscreamer> or graveman
[07:09] <UFO> !seveas
[07:09] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:09] <wastrel> hi folks. i'm having wifi trouble - in one room of my apartment i get random disconnects - i think the card is connecting to a neighbor's network.  where do i look to see logs to diagnose this?
[07:09] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  just like the one I described would have an issue if malware or faulty disk trashed the partition with the real root
[07:09] <pcadmin> meisam:  " aptitude search mysql  "    its look like you would need mysql-server ?
[07:10] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, back-to-the-start is hardly a point i would like to quickly restore to, and if i really wanted to do that, id reinstall
[07:10] <jetscreamer> and to get the scsi device id for your atapi cd burner (or dvd) cdrdao --scanbus dev=atapi (or /dev/hdwhatever) or was it cdrecord --scanbus.. i forget, one of the two
[07:10] <kp_> Hey i have a ATI Radeon 9600 whats the best way to install the drivers? use the drivers from ATI's site or use apt to get them?
[07:10] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  it'd be insanely useful if you were developing dapper and found a bug where when you apt-get dist-upgrade from breezy it breaks horribly, and had to reinstall say 20-30 times in a single day.
[07:11] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get a selection for suspend-to-ram into the gnome shutdown dialog?
[07:11] <Angel_Dex> How do i install a .tar
[07:11] <zulfiqar> i have a usbdrive and delete some file after it was full but still ubuntu doesnot reflect the correct free space and shows full, please help!
[07:11] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, if someone found themselves in that position they would use vmware
[07:11] <jetscreamer> try untarring it
[07:11] <prammy> Angel_Dex: a tar is an archive, you can open it using the archive manager or extract it with the tar xvf command
[07:11] <Angel_Dex> i did
[07:11] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: what are you trying to install?
[07:11] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  touche.  I can't afford the $300 but more power to ye.
[07:12] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  also I am amazed that vmware emulates your real hardware well enough to reproduce specific flaws related to hardware
[07:12] <Angel_Dex> MarcN its a Lzh viewer for gnome so i can play pong
[07:13] <scampbell> vmware doesn't really emulate hardware so much as it time slices and does state control.  The flaws are probably real.
[07:13] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  interestingly a lot of people found that one dev branch of ReactOS simply would not even make it into the installer, much less boot; but it would work perfectly on qemu. . .
[07:13] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: isn't lzh a file compression format?
[07:13] <snooze_> Teflon: greetings from drosan and slipknot.
[07:13] <beerockxs> how do i get the suspend option to show up in the logout menu?
[07:13] <bluefoxicy> scampbell:  so it uses your real network card, exporting a driver interface to your real NIC chipset and your real IDE and mobo chipsets?
[07:13] <Angel_Dex> MarcN yeah but theres kiss viewers that use it to run small programs and my friend said i can play old games with it or somthing so im givin it a try
[07:14] <bluefoxicy> scampbell:  and real video card?
[07:14] <amphi> bluefoxicy: I believe so, it 'virtualizes' the real hw, rather than emulating hw like qemu
[07:14] <scampbell> bluefoxicy: nah you got me on network card, I'm sure that's a stacked.  The video card I think is pretty much direct access and state save.  Of course, I'm only guessing, I don't have the source code.
[07:14] <skazi> Hello everyone..I'm using Ubuntu quite awhile now, and I just got a problem I can't resolve with my mouse, when i click on things with the left mouse button, nothing works..like when i press nothing happeneds...like it's stuck from some reason..then I press the right mouse button and then it like releases the left button..then it works for only 1 click...then again..stuck..anyone got any soulution??
[07:14] <UFO> any ides what i need to install to build ati drivers
[07:14] <bluefoxicy> amphi:  so that 'vmware' Xorg driver isn't really for anything, because you'd really use nv or radeon?
[07:14] <Dasnipa`> !ati
[07:14] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:15] <kp_> Hey i have a ATI Radeon 9600 whats the best way to install the drivers? use the drivers from ATI's site or use apt to get them?
[07:15] <Dasnipa`> kp_ ^
[07:15] <trappist> UFO: linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential
[07:15] <Mabus06> How do I check if a wifi card supports scanning? And if it doesn't, (it is a DWL-G520 rev b which uses atheros chipset) is it possible to get drivers for it that will allow it to? I had found one that was supposed to do that for windows, but it rendered my card unworking.
[07:15] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: I don't play games, but is this useful? gnomekiss - A KiSS paper doll viewer for GNOME
[07:15] <MrRio> bluefoxicy, why has this turned into an argument about virtulization? a developer who needs to reinstate an OS more than 20 times a day would probably make an image of their drive and restore it from this, just as i would if installing ubuntu on 20 sets of identical hardware
[07:15] <kp_> Whoops thanks
[07:15] <beerockxs> how do i get the suspend option to show up in the logout menu?
[07:15] <UFO> trappist, thx it was the headers
[07:15] <Angel_Dex> MarcN thats what im trying to install
[07:15] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  True.  More overhead, but true.
[07:16] <amphi> bluefoxicy: dunno, to be honest, I've never used vmware
[07:16] <kp_> thanks Dasnipa`
[07:16] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: try from the command line:          sudo apt-get install gnomekiss      and it will get the .deb and install it.
[07:16] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: or use synaptic
[07:16] <Angel_Dex> MarcN i untarred it and it has a install .sh? text file and i ran it as a .exe but nothing happend
[07:17] <Elreino> why my gnome is working very bad? i have nvidia geforce 6600gt and 8178 drivers
[07:17] <wastrel> what's a KiSS paper doll?
[07:17] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: what I am saying is it may already be packaged up for you and ready to download if you check the ubuntu package repositories.  The way to do that is with the command line apt-cache or the GUI synaptic.
[07:17] <UFO> make: dh_testdir: Command not found
[07:17] <UFO> make: *** [configure]  Error 127
[07:17] <UFO> eny help?
[07:17] <Elreino> even quake 4 isn't work
[07:17] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: that means you won't have to mess with compiling from sources
[07:17] <Angel_Dex> MarcN there is and i just installed it many thanks DO you think that .sh did any harm?
[07:17] <kp_> Elreino, Can you explain yourself a little better please
[07:17] <jetscreamer> anybody who needs to reinstall with ANY kind of frequency should have an image
[07:17] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  Well why not though ;)  If you make an assumption, and I have other information or hypothesis or theory which may be pertainent to said assumption, isn't it worthwhile to convey said information?
[07:18] <SeyToN> anyone knows whats the latest version of mplayer?
[07:18] <jetscreamer> mplayer site might
[07:18] <decaf> UFO: you need one of debian package building scripts. use filesearch at packages.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <Angel_Dex> wastrel i think its a electronic paper doll for kids?
[07:18] <sebastian> why is port 1028 open on ubuntu?
[07:18] <bluefoxicy> MrRio:  that's how things get done, by the sharing of knowledge.  If you want to see a backwards civilization, take away the internet and destroy all books, and come back in 40 years.
[07:18] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: I doubt it.  Especially if you didn't to it with privileges (ie: sudo ./whatever.sh)
[07:18] <sebastian> what service is it?
[07:18] <decaf> UFO: I think its debhelper
[07:18] <Angel_Dex> MarcN nope no privleges
[07:18] <MarcN> Angel_Dex: then you are fine.
[07:18] <Angel_Dex> MarcN many thanks
[07:19] <UFO> decaf, ok ill try that. thx
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> anyway
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> i'm bored.
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> later.
[07:19] <MrRio> lol, cya
[07:19] <skazi> Hello everyone..I'm using Ubuntu quite awhile now, and I just got a problem I can't resolve with my mouse, when i click on things with the left mouse button, nothing works..like when i press nothing happeneds...like it's stuck from some reason..then I press the right mouse button and then it like releases the left button..then it works for only 1 click...then again..stuck..anyone got any soulution??
[07:19] <MrRio> skazi: usb mouse?
[07:20] <veriz> How do I create virtual hosts? Do anyone know?
[07:20] <MrRio> veriz: under apache?
[07:20] <veriz> MrRio
[07:20] <veriz> MrRio: yes
[07:20] <skazi> yes
[07:20] <skazi> MrRio: yes
[07:20] <UFO> decaf, yes it was that and fakeroot too :) thx for the help
[07:20] <MrRio> arg, lol
[07:21] <MrRio> veriz, which version of apache are you using?
[07:21] <wastrel> skazi:  did it work OK before?
[07:21] <hmpedersen> Right.. Now finally i have the correct resolution..
[07:21] <hmpedersen> but alien is simply killing me :(
[07:21] <Mabus06> How do I check if a wifi card supports scanning? And if it doesn't, (it is a DWL-G520 rev b which uses atheros chipset) is it possible to get drivers for it that will allow it to? I had found one that was supposed to do that for windows, but it rendered my card unworking.
[07:21] <rel> how can I re-install my dapper installation. things don't work right
[07:21] <hmpedersen> converting rpm to deb fine.. then deletes the deb afterwards!
[07:21] <skazi> wastrel: ufcourse
[07:22] <skazi> wastrel: ufcourse, if not i would try fix it emidiatly
[07:22] <tonk_> moi
[07:22] <skazi> ive never seen nothing like this befor
[07:22] <skazi> it like gets fucked up when i press the buttons
[07:22] <tonk_> hello
[07:22] <K-Mandla> Hello all.
[07:22] <skazi> like something hit it in some way..I don't know how or why...
[07:22] <skazi> but it buggs me :/
[07:22] <MrRio> skazi: have you tried it on another box?
[07:23] <skazi> tryed what?
[07:23] <wastrel> skazi:  it sounds like a hardware problem to me, if you havent' changed your X server config
[07:23] <tonk_> where I can download pal bg tv program for my ubuntu linux
[07:23] <MrRio> skazi, the mouse
[07:23] <veriz> MrRio: apache2
[07:23] <skazi> the mouse is ok...i don't think it is the mouse...never ever had this kind of problem
[07:23] <snooze_> np: turtle bay country club - silicon dub :)
[07:23] <Mabus06> Where do I find sources.list
[07:23] <beerockxs> how do i get the suspend option to show up in the logout menu?
[07:23] <snooze_> Mabus06: /etc/apt/
[07:23] <skazi> where can I check the settings of the mouse or x server config?
[07:24] <tonk_> what is best pal bg tv program !!
[07:24] <thegladiator> no idea!!
[07:24] <snooze_> tonk_: questions usually end with "?", not "!".
[07:24] <thegladiator> :-)
[07:24] <tonk_> :)
[07:24] <thedward> Howdy
[07:25] <tonk_> but none answer
[07:25] <wastrel> skazi:  mouse section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:25] <tonk_> tell me
[07:25] <beerockxs> anyone knowledgable about suspend-to-ram?
[07:25] <wastrel> skazi:  don't change it unless you back up the file first :]
[07:25] <skazi> heh
[07:25] <skazi> ok
[07:25] <thedward> does anyone have any suggestion for troubleshooting an automounting problem? (it stopped automounting removable media)
[07:25] <skazi> but what is there to change there anyway? :/
[07:26] <thedward> (I've already checked the gnome-volume-properties settings, and it is system wide, not just for one user)
[07:26] <tonk_> where I can download pal BG tv program like smart tv
[07:26] <wastrel> skazi:  not much - that's why i think it's a hardware problem.
[07:26] <keherman> How can I print DOUBLE-SIDED...
[07:26] <wastrel> skazi:  did you check system->preferences->mouse  ?
[07:26] <wastrel> keherman:  do you have a duplex printer?
[07:27] <keherman> wastrel, yes HP LaserJet 8000dn
[07:27] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know if there's like a Resume wizard for OpenOffice.org?
[07:27] <keherman> wastrel, it supports it without need to reinsert the paper
[07:27] <keherman> does that mean duplex?
[07:27] <skazi> nope
[07:27] <skazi> i will check now
[07:27] <skazi> maybe I need the mouse logitech drivers
[07:27] <skazi> ?
[07:28] <cyphase> MrRio, sorry i didn't answer :). yes, really
[07:28] <cyphase> i'm on the dapper changes mailing list
[07:29] <wastrel> keherman:  yeah
[07:29] <cyphase> and it's listed
[07:29] <wastrel> keherman:  i dunno i print odds & evens & flip in between ... you'll want to search for duplex printing in the docs
[07:30] <keherman> wastrel, yeah im looking
[07:30] <keherman> wastrel, for an hour now -- found nothign that works
[07:31] <skazi> maybe I need the mouse logitech drivers??
[07:31] <thedward> if I browse to my dvd rom drive in nautilus, it will mount it, but it stopped automatically mounting it when I put it into the drive
[07:32] <skazi> anyway i think it came back to itself...
[07:32] <ruudb> hi
[07:32] <skazi> very strange
[07:32] <Mabus06> I'm trying to learn how WEP cracking is done to learn more about security. I got airsnort and am running it, and scanning channel 6 (which I think is the default one?), but I am getting two mac addresses.
[07:32] <Mabus06> I don't want to interfere with what is potentially my neighbors router.
[07:32] <Mabus06> So how do I find out which MAC address is mine and which is his?
[07:32] <jos> you dont need logitech mouse drivers unless you have an m-ub48
[07:32] <yodza> hi all
[07:33] <wastrel> Mabus06:  ifconfig should tell you which
[07:33] <ruudb> I have deleted the first system user and added a new user afterwards. i having all minor problems right now. Is there a kind of fallback ????
[07:33] <wastrel> Mabus06:  or traceroute to see which one your machine is routing through
[07:34] <Jether> Ubunutu is having troub;e with IP addresses, it allways thinks an IP is <IP_ADDRESS>, i have to ping the server first to get the ip address and then connect to it. How can this be solved?
[07:34] <yodza> anybody have had hard drive partition detection with partman ?
[07:34] <wastrel> Mabus06:  arp will list your arp cache - which will have your router's mac addy
[07:34] <ruudb> One of the problems is mounting USB devices
[07:36] <yodza> partman does not detect partitions created with fdisk !!
[07:37] <Mabus06> wastrel: for ifconfig, under ath0 the hwadr is different than both mac addresses I'm picking up.
[07:37] <Mabus06> I don't know how to use traceroute. I will do arp -a in a moment.
[07:37] <yodza> any way to mount them manually during installation process ?
[07:38] <wastrel> Mabus06:  for ifconfig that is the mac addy of the nic you're seeing.  i was thinking you could use the ip addy to identify the router - forgot you were looking @ mac addresses
[07:38] <wastrel> Mabus06:  ditto the traceroute thing :]
[07:38] <Mabus06> wastrel: hmmm, something strange, can I pm you?
[07:38] <tyler_> how can i covert a ghostscirpt file to a jpeg file ?
[07:38] <wastrel> sure
[07:39] <tobbw> hello, i'm trying to get my lcd to run in native resolution in x, but to do this i need to rum a command before x starts. is there a file where i could put this command? really need some help, thank you
[07:39] <wastrel> tyler_:  gimp will do that i think
[07:39] <snooze_> tobbw: you don't need to do this.
[07:39] <yodza> tyler_: convert from image magic .. would do that ..
[07:39] <jpfarias> hey
[07:39] <snooze_> tobbw: /etc/X11/xorg.conf does the trick.
[07:39] <jpfarias> how do I enable xgl on dapper?
[07:39] <jpfarias> i've installed xserver-xgl
[07:39] <jpfarias> but it seems a lib is missing
[07:40] <snooze_> tobbw: please just believe me, xorg.conf works for it.
[07:40] <jpfarias> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/xgl/libxglx.so
[07:40] <jpfarias> it give me this error:
[07:40] <jpfarias> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/xgl/libxglx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:40] <snooze_> jpfarias: does all that appear in one single line?
[07:41] <jpfarias> yep
[07:41] <snooze_> jpfarias: and there appears nothing else additionally to it?
[07:41] <tobbw> snooze_: no, you see i need to hack the video bios with 915resolution...
[07:41] <snooze_> tobbw: i can hardly believe this.
[07:41] <Jether> Ubunutu is having troub;e with IP addresses, it allways thinks an IP is <IP_ADDRESS>, i have to ping the server first to get the ip address and then connect to it. How can this be solved?
[07:41] <tyler_> gimp is too heavy for me, and gimp will convert page by page .. too much work, i want immediate conversion for all pages..
[07:41] <jpfarias> $ Xgl :1
[07:41] <jpfarias> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/xgl/libxglx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:41] <jpfarias> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/share/X11/rgb'
[07:41] <jpfarias> Fatal server error:
[07:41] <jpfarias> No DDX module loaded
[07:41] <Angel_Dex> i need LHA to unpack LZH?
[07:42] <Angel_Dex> what is LHA?
[07:42] <yodza> ** How to force installation, on partman undected partition, but fdisk detection  ? **
[07:42] <tobbw> snooze_: ok but even if i am wrong, do you know of such a file?
[07:42] <snooze_> tobbw: if there's really no other way, disable gdm and do it manually by adding a line in .xinitrc before the window manager or desktop environment command.
[07:42] <snooze_> tobbw: yes.
[07:42] <snooze_> tobbw: ~/.xinitrc.
[07:42] <snooze_> tobbw: it's the file that's being executed when you start X with the "startx" command
[07:42] <jpfarias> snooze_: saw my messages above?
[07:42] <jos> lha, zip on amiga
[07:42] <snooze_> yes.
[07:42] <snooze_> jpfarias: mom
[07:43] <snooze_> tobbw: i recommend you to disable gdm completely.
[07:43] <judgen> is there anything similar to opentracker on linux?
[07:43] <snooze_> tobbw:  i did it by adding a line "exit 0" to the beginning of the file /etc/init.d/gdm
[07:43] <PsySine> when i choose automatic partitioning in ubuntu, how is the space arranged?
[07:43] <snooze_> tobbw: i guess it's a bloody workaround, but that works perfectly.
[07:43] <peter__> How do i install amsn?
[07:43] <jpfarias> snooze_: so, do u have any clues?
[07:44] <xcc> dpkg -i amsn
[07:44] <snooze_> peter__: i don't know what it is, but if it's in apt, you do so by "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[07:44] <snooze_> jpfarias: ok now to you .
[07:44] <snooze_> jpfarias: *scrolling up*
[07:44] <xcc> apt-get install amsn
[07:44] <jpfarias> ok
[07:44] <Angel_Dex> i need LHA to unpack LZH?
[07:45] <yodza> peter__: sudo apt-cache search amsn; sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:45] <snooze_> jpfarias: hm, no.
[07:45] <snooze_> jpfarias: :(
[07:45] <AstralJava> Silly question if I may, has everyone gotten security updates for Breezy just fine today?
[07:45] <decaf> what means ubuntero? ubuntu developer?
[07:45] <snooze_> jpfarias: sorry, no clue too.
[07:45] <jpfarias> snooze_: :(
[07:45] <peter__> i do not understand this system! :-( but i do not wanna install Windows again..
[07:45] <skazi> wastrel ?
[07:45] <jpfarias> what about that missing file?
[07:45] <jpfarias> libxglx.so
[07:45] <wastrel> skazi:  yes?
[07:46] <dredd> i have a question about firestarter, is it safe with its standard settings? do i need to change anything in it?
[07:46] <yodza> ** How to force installation, on partman undected partition, but fdisk detected  ? **
[07:46] <PsySine> peter__: in ubuntu you don't have to struggle with installation files that much
[07:46] <snooze_> peter__: try having both OS's at the same time on your pc.
[07:46] <Jether> how do you run a .py as root?
[07:46] <K-Mandla> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu and PCMCIA ports on Pentium I/II machines?
[07:46] <ufo> !ati
[07:46] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:46] <no0tic> I can't use my wireless card with the latest dapper kernel 2.6.15-15-k7, iwconfig tells me it can't set frequency, what can I do?
[07:46] <heliotrope> seveas, you there?
[07:46] <snooze_> ati is bad.
[07:46] <yodza> Jether: sudo python *.py, doesn't work ?
[07:47] <Seveas> heliotrope, sort of
[07:47] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get suspend to ram/sleep to show up in the gnome shutdown dialog?
[07:47] <snooze_> yodza: *.py may be bad :)
[07:47] <heliotrope> seveas, i just wanted to say thanks
[07:47] <heliotrope> everything is working now
[07:47] <Seveas> cool!
[07:47] <heliotrope> i REALLY appreciate it man
[07:47] <Jether> yodza, thanks ;) i forgot the pyhton bit before
[07:48] <Seveas> you're welcome
[07:48] <yodza> Jether: Python Power !!
[07:48] <Jether> yodza, ;) yup
[07:48] <heliotrope> seveas, do you know where i can get a good linux C++ compiler?
[07:49] <Seveas> heliotrope, apt-get instal build-essential
[07:49] <yodza> hellotrope: gnu-g++ !
[07:49] <Seveas> and use g++ (THE c++ compiler for linux)
[07:49] <heliotrope> seveas, thanks :)
[07:49] <Angel_Dex> where can i find the package lha from non-free
[07:49] <Seveas> !find lha
[07:49] <ubotu> lha: (lzh archiver), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1.14i-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 168 kB
[07:49] <peter__> can anyone teach me the basics of using ubuntu?
[07:49] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, Ubuntu mutiverse
[07:50] <Seveas> mulitverse even...
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> peter__,  google is your friend. :P
[07:50] <Angel_Dex> Seveas hum
[07:50] <yodza> How to force installation, on partman undected partition, but fdisk detected  ? **
[07:50] <carpediem-sideki> Seveas: are you responsible for the Seveas repos?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> the gnome manuals are decent also. :P
[07:50] <Seveas> peter__, browse through help.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <no0tic> it's possible to "compile" fglrx drivers with gcc4?
[07:50] <Seveas> carpediem, hence the name of the repo...
[07:50] <tobbw> snooze_: i do not even have
[07:50] <tobbw> snooze_: i do not even have
[07:50] <rocio_alcalaina> olaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:50] <brukental> what is the name of the confole proggie for configuring Xorg? anyone remember?
[07:50] <tobbw> snooze_: i do not even have ~/.xinitrc
[07:51] <heliotrope> seveas, it said could not open lock file?
[07:51] <carpediem-sideki> Seveas: great.  I just wanted to say thanks then.
[07:51] <rocio_alcalaina> alguien de cadiz que avle espaol
[07:51] <Seveas> carpediem, yw
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Tobbw then make one.
[07:51] <Seveas> !es
[07:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:51] <amphi> tobbw: you should use ~/.xsession I believe
[07:51] <amphi> tobbw: you can create it if it doesn't exist
[07:51] <Seveas> heliotrope, close synaptic/update manager/aptitude and any other apt application
[07:51] <decaf> no0tic: it's not -mostly- possible to compile a module with another version of gcc then used to compile kernel
[07:51] <setuid> Can someone tell me why Midnight Commander in Breezy is all screwed up?
[07:51] <setuid> Look here: http://code.gnu-designs.com/mc_barf.png
[07:51] <tobbw> Dr_Willis: is there no other file beeing executed before x?
[07:51] <carpediem-sideki> Seveas: I mean for supplying them for the rrest of us
[07:51] <setuid> Its kicking out raw ANSI code
[07:51] <Seveas> setuid, mc and utf8 are not friends
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> tobbw,  totaly depends on how you are starting X.
[07:52] <setuid> Seveas: Interestingly, this worked on Debian Unstable
[07:52] <AstralJava> Oookay, I've got a problem. Security announcements today inform of a few security updates, but none of them are coming thru. What should I try to fix this?
[07:52] <no0tic> decaf, dapper's kernel is compiled with gcc4
[07:52] <heliotrope> seveas, ok, i dont have anything running but xchat
[07:52] <setuid> Seveas: what locales should I use?
[07:52] <Seveas> setuid, hmm, that one looks like b0rken terminal settings...
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> tobbw,  if you dont use KDM/GDM or any other X login toom. then .xinitrc is normally read by default. Or the system wide equilivent
[07:52] <snooze_> amphi: i think .Xsession, not .xsession, but not sure :)
[07:52] <snooze_> amphi: maybe that's obsolete
[07:52] <setuid> Seveas: Right... but it fails in every term, every font
[07:52] <decaf> no0tic: so you can use gcc 4.
[07:52] <Seveas> heliotrope, lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:52] <snooze_> amphi: and i damn don't feel like using gdm :)
[07:53] <Jether> Ubunutu is having troub;e with IP addresses, it allways thinks an IP is <IP_ADDRESS>, i have to ping the server first to get the ip address and then connect to it. How can this be solved?
[07:53] <no0tic> decaf, but the driver fails to compile... is there any work around?
[07:53] <snooze_> Jether: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:53] <heliotrope> seveas: warning, cant stat() etc
[07:53] <Seveas> doesn't matter, as long as it says something about the lockfile
[07:54] <setuid> Seveas: I'm rebuilding from the mc snapshot now (2006-02-13)
[07:54] <skazi> wastrel: why didn't you answer me?
[07:54] <skazi> maybe I need the mouse logitech drivers??
[07:54] <wastrel> skazi:  when?
[07:54] <heliotrope> seveas: im not sure that it did, should i try the install again to see if it works?
[07:54] <skazi> up :O
[07:54] <Jether> snooze_, it won't let me edit it
[07:54] <ufo> Cant install module-assistant with apt-get... ??
[07:54] <skazi> don;t matter
[07:54] <Seveas> heliotrope, that won't hurt
[07:54] <yodza> How to force installation, on partman undetected partition, but fdisk detected  ? **
[07:54] <wastrel> skazi:  i don't know about logitech, i just use generic.
[07:54] <amphi> snooze_: debian uses .xsession regardless of whether you use a ?dm or startx
[07:55] <decaf> no0tic: I compiled vanilla 2.15.4 on breezy with gcc 4.0 (make-kpg of kernel-package is great), compiled breezy's nvidia-kernel-source to use with it. I don't know anything about ATI
[07:55] <ufo> where can i find the module-assistant
[07:55] <skazi> wastrel: but it comes and goes..this problem
[07:55] <yodza> Jether: do not froget sudo  !
[07:55] <snooze_> amphi: uhm, interesting :)
[07:55] <snooze_> amphi: i still use the old .xinitrc way
[07:55] <skazi> wastrel: i dunno why all of a sudden.. :/
[07:55] <snooze_> amphi: works for me
[07:55] <no0tic> decaf, ok, thanks, I use make-kpkg too
[07:55] <Jether> yodza, yeah i did that, still didn't let me...
[07:55] <amphi> snooze_: I think .xintrc is 'deprecated' rather than ignored
[07:55] <amphi> *.xinitrc
[07:56] <thegladiator> can I open kde panel in gnome ? :)
[07:56] <thelsdj> i double clicked on an mp3 in the gnome file browser and it started playing it, but doesn't seem to be any controls to pause or stop it?
[07:56] <amphi> snooze_: I am not a fan of the ?dms either
[07:56] <snooze_> amphi: hm, interesting.
[07:56] <trappist> sweet.  cedega 5.1 supports civ4
[07:56] <snooze_> thelsdj: otherwise maybe it gets possible
[07:56] <snooze_> uh
[07:56] <snooze_> thegladiator:
[07:56] <snooze_> damn tab completionm
[07:56] <Jether> snooze_, ok, i got /etc/network/interfaces open, what do i do?
[07:56] <yodza> Jether: what's the error message ?
[07:56] <pdkl> does cedega 5.1 support my intel imac/
[07:56] <ufo> anyone got idea howto install module-assistant?
[07:56] <pdkl> ? :)
[07:56] <heliotrope> seveas: hmmm, it doesnt seem to be working, is there support on the site for installing things like this? i feel bad about bugging you about this so frequently
[07:57] <snooze_> Jether: why do you ask ME? if you want me to help you, paste it to a query to me or so :)
[07:57] <decaf> thegladiator: possible but not a good idea. menu or menu-xdg packages help to reach kde menus fromgnome
[07:57] <skazi> Hrmm...What is this program? "eog" ? eye of gnome
[07:57] <Jether> yodza, dn't worry i got it, instead of edit, i typed gedit and it worked
[07:57] <snooze_> skazi: image viewer
[07:57] <yodza> Jether: :))
[07:57] <Rahzel> hello from germany ;)
[07:57] <Seveas> heliotrope, try this command: ps f -e
[07:57] <snooze_> hallo Rahzel, gru aus duisburg :)
[07:57] <amphi> skazi: an image viewer IIRC
[07:57] <Jether> snooze_, you told me to open that file in responce to my question
[07:57] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin
[07:57] <thegladiator> decaf, how to execute it ? shud I install the packages called menu and menu-xdg ?
[07:57] <patric> hello from kansas
[07:57] <snooze_> Jether: right, i did :)
[07:57] <setuid> Seveas: Nope, didn't work either. Damn
[07:57] <Rahzel> oh snooze_  ;) darf ich auch deutsch fragen? or just english?! :D
[07:57] <setuid> I thought it was an iconv thing
[07:58] <yodza> hello from France
[07:58] <snooze_> Rahzel: just ask in english :)
[07:58] <Seveas> heliotrope, and the reason I am here is to help people so don't mind bugging me
[07:58] <mac19857> hi, is there any different between shell-comand "ifup eth0" and the "activation"-button of the "network-admin"
[07:58] <snooze_> Rahzel: maybe some other people got more clue than me, so just ask :)
[07:58] <Angel_Dex> TT_TT somone make ubotu tell me about adding multi verse
[07:58] <Angel_Dex> <.<
[07:58] <snooze_> Rahzel: i'm not sure that i can answer all the stuff the others here can :)
[07:58] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, /msg ubotu multiverse
[07:58] <decaf> thegladiator: install packages. sometimes works :/   the you shuld have a menu entry called debian.
[07:58] <heliotrope> seveas: haha ,cool, the paste bin?
[07:58] <Seveas> !tell heliotrope about pastebin
[07:58] <amphi> skazi: gthumb is another nixe one; some people like pornview
[07:58] <technomancy> anybody having proxy troubles in dapper?
[07:58] <snooze_> Rahzel: and most people here just understand english pretty good.
[07:58] <snooze_> ugm
[07:58] <snooze_> Jether: so, ask me :)
[07:58] <technomancy> it tries to use the proxy even though it is turned off
[07:59] <setuid> sheeeeat
[07:59] <thegladiator> decaf, how to ru it from terminal ?
[07:59] <snooze_> Jether: paste it to a query if you can :)
[07:59] <setuid> When was libiconv removed from Ubuntu?!
[07:59] <Rahzel> If I installed via "apt-get install" an application, how can I remove if I just forgot the filename ?! at the adept package there is the searchfield ! Only thing i remember was "BIN" inside that programm file ..
[07:59] <thegladiator> decaf, kde panel ?
[07:59] <Seveas> !info libiconv
[07:59] <ufo> ok.. i need to have universe enabled...
[07:59] <yodza> snooze: most understand globish !
[07:59] <skazi> amphi: Ok, thanks.
[07:59] <Jether> snooze_, well when i do anyhting like irc, it always thiks the ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:59] <thegladiator> tweak tweak and tweak , thats my hobby
[07:59] <amphi> Rahzel: dpkg -S some_file to get the package name
[07:59] <Angel_Dex> Seveas i did this but multi verse isnt added
[07:59] <Jether>  snooze_ until i ping it to get the ip, then it connects
[07:59] <snooze_> Jether: WHICH ip? that one of the machine you are in front of?
[08:00] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, sources.list on the pastebin please
[08:00] <yodza> Rahzel: sudo apt-cache search seeking_file !
[08:00] <setuid> Seveas: dlocate/apt-file search/etc. aren't finding much either
[08:00] <Seveas> setuid, likewise
[08:00] <Rahzel> amphi and if i write "dpkg -S bin" and "bin" is not the exact filename? could usw something like "*bin*" ?
[08:00] <snooze_> Jether: maybe you don't get your dhcp config from your router?
[08:00] <Seveas> but for me mc works completely normal...
[08:00] <setuid> Seveas: libc6-dev claims to have it, but it doesn't help
[08:00] <setuid> iconv isn't found by the app at confiugre/build time
[08:00] <Jether> snooze_, do, when i open xchat and tried to cnnect to freenode it said Connecting to irc.freenode.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 6667...
[08:00] <Seveas> setuid, apt-get build-dep mc
[08:00] <setuid> Yep
[08:00] <heliotrope> seveas: ill have to continue this with you later on, im sorry, i have to get ready for class :\
[08:01] <Jether> snooze_, then i pinged irc.freenode.net and then it said Connecting to irc.freenode.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 6667..
[08:01] <Seveas> heliotrope, ok, see you later
[08:01] <snooze_> Jether: uhm that's really strange.
[08:01] <heliotrope> seveas: thanks a lot for your help again, cya
[08:01] <setuid> Seveas: But I'm building from upstream source, not even a .deb
[08:01] <amphi> Rahzel: dpkg -S takes regexes, yeah
[08:01] <Seveas> setuid, apt-get build-dep should drag in build dependencies
[08:01] <Jether> snooze_, yeah, its means i can't really do much on ubunut cause i can't connect to servers lol
[08:01] <snooze_> Jether: what's in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[08:01] <setuid>   Support for charset:        no
[08:01] <setuid> bleh
[08:01] <amphi> Rahzel: you will want to single quote them probably to prevent the shell expanding them
[08:01] <Seveas> and unless mc changed massively since breezy (which I could imagine) it should work
[08:02] <snooze_> i hate compile errors.
[08:02] <Jether> snooze_,nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:02] <setuid> snooze_: Heh, I eat them for breakfast
[08:02] <snooze_> Jether: what is <IP_ADDRESS>? a hardware router?
[08:02] <Angel_Dex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8706 Seveas
[08:02] <Jether> snooze_ yup
[08:02] <setuid> libpam0g-dev... tossed congfigure at the wrong junction
[08:02] <snooze_> setuid: great, is it enlarging your penis or improving sex skills?
[08:03] <setuid> snooze_: It doesn't need to, I'm fine in those areas ;)
[08:03] <snooze_> Jether: hmmm
[08:03] <setuid> whoo-ha
[08:03] <snooze_> got you all in check!
[08:03] <snooze_> Jether: hmmmhmmm
[08:03] <snooze_> Jether: what about choosing static ip addresses? :)
[08:03] <hmpedersen> I've been away from here for too long..
[08:03] <setuid> apt-file roskc
[08:03] <setuid> er, rocks
[08:03] <veriz> WTF IS THAT: postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/112470.9833: Read-only file system
[08:03] <snooze_> Jether: i guess there's something strange with your hw router.
[08:03] <Seveas> Build-Depends: debhelper (>> 4.0.0), libglib2.0-dev, libgpmg1-dev |not+linux-gnu, gettext, libslang2-dev
[08:03] <veriz> nothing that i can do
[08:03] <snooze_> setuid: you think so? :)
[08:04] <Seveas> those are the dapper build depends
[08:04] <Jether> snooze_ ok, thanks, ill have a look later
[08:04] <KoruptidPryde> is there any way to verify that my PCMCIA slot is functional short of installing win32 as a test???
[08:04] <hmpedersen> How do i get information about something again?
[08:04] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: KNOPPIX
[08:04] <yodza> all: How to force installation, on partman undetected partition, but fdisk detected  ? ***
[08:04] <Jether> snooze_ thanks for your help
[08:04] <Seveas> hmpedersen, google.com/search?q=something
[08:04] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: any specific commands?
[08:04] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: pop in a pcmcia card
[08:04] <setuid> see if it recognizes it
[08:04] <hmpedersen> Seveas, the command in here might be helpful.. Unless it doesn't exist anymore..
[08:05] <wastrel> hmpedersen:  /msg ubotu blah
[08:05] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: i'm on ubuntu and it doesn't seem to be recognizing
[08:05] <hmpedersen> thanx, wast
[08:05] <snooze_> jarlev: np :)
[08:05] <snooze_> gna
[08:05] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: uhm... what?
[08:05] <Rahzel> how to extract the *.mpg data out of an *.bin file? is there any gui-application for (k)ubuntu?
[08:05] <snooze_> jarlev: sorry for nickcompletion :)
[08:05] <Seveas> veriz, sounds like either your /home or your /var are mounted ro
[08:05] <Angel_Dex> Hm
[08:06] <veriz> Seveas you mean wrong?
[08:06] <Seveas> ro is short for read only
[08:06] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: I'm running ubuntu.... I've put a card into my PCMCIA slot.... dmesg shows that it detects the card being inserted..... but i can't seem to pull up any information about the inserted card
[08:06] <cas> can someone provide me the link to the sources.list generator. Can't seem to find it anymore
[08:06] <ufo> !ati
[08:06] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:07] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: perhaps its not a supported card?
[08:07] <Seveas> !tell cas about easysource
[08:07] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: perhaps you need a module loaded?
[08:07] <cas> tnx Seveas
[08:07] <Rahzel> is there any option in the console to list, which packages have been installed lately ?!
[08:07] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: that's what I'm trying to determine..... i've inserted two different linksys cards, but i currently don't have anything else i could insert in order to test
[08:07] <veriz> Seveas: but how i can remount them or what should I do :S didn't had the problem before
[08:08] <veriz> Seveas: just some mins ago it was fine
[08:08] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: Try finding the right module, if it exists
[08:08] <Seveas> Rahzel, not really...
[08:08] <Angel_Dex> meep
[08:08] <snooze_> some things are better left unread :)
[08:08] <Seveas> veriz, things can get remounted read only if disk errors occur
[08:08] <Seveas> check /var/log/messages and dmesg
[08:08] <beerockxs_> can anyone tell me how to get suspend to ram/sleep to show up in the gnome shutdown dialog?
[08:08] <yodza> all: How to force installation, on partman undetected partition, but fdisk detected  ? ****
[08:09] <Rahzel> Seveas damn ;) yesterday installed something via apt-get install and now i would like to remove, but sadly, i don't remember the name of the application. Application was just for console.
[08:09] <setuid> Seveas: Here's something... it works with the 'vga' font, but not with other fonts
[08:09] <veriz> Seveas: even this: Error writing /root/.nano_history: Read-only file system
[08:09] <setuid> (i.e. xterm -fn vga -e mc)
[08:09] <Seveas> Rahzel, ls -alt /var/lib/dpkg/info | less
[08:10] <Seveas> that should give some clue
[08:10] <setuid> veriz: tune2fs -l /dev/hda
[08:10] <KoruptidPryde> the cardbus is being detected just fine... the issue is how do I pull up info about the inserted card to make sure that the damn bus is at least working?
[08:10] <setuid> veriz: See if its dirty
[08:10] <Seveas> veriz, yep, your / got remounted read only
[08:10] <yodza> Rahzel: dpkg -S pattern, to get package name.
[08:10] <Seveas> veriz, that definitely means disk errors
[08:10] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: If the card isnt' recognized, then you can't pull up info on it
[08:10] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: tried cardinfo?
[08:10] <veriz> Seveas: Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[08:10] <setuid> veriz: boom1
[08:10] <setuid> er, boom!
[08:11] <Seveas> veriz, that sounds really really bad...
[08:11] <Seveas> backup as much as you can right now
[08:11] <veriz> Seveas: whats wrong ?:S
[08:11] <setuid> tune2fs -C400 /dev/hda1 && /sbin/reboot
[08:11] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: what I'm trying to do is verify that the bus is functioning properly before I order a $70 PCMCIA wireless network adapter
[08:11] <Mabus06> Anyone know a good client for playing MUDs with Ubuntu?
[08:11] <Mabus06> Preferably something that is as basic as possible but supports ANSI color.
[08:11] <Seveas> veriz, it may mean that as of next boot the filesystem will be gone (superblock is quite important)
[08:12] <armin> hmm
[08:12] <setuid> Seveas: Not necessarily, backup superblocks every 8k help
[08:12] <armin> :(
[08:12] <veriz> Seveas: but how could that happen? somebody hacked into system?
[08:12] <Seveas> veriz, so back up all you can/want and reboot to do a filesystem check
[08:12] <Seveas> setuid, true
[08:12] <setuid> I'm speaking as someone who has trashed no less than 50 filesystems in the last decade or so
[08:12] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: for the love of all that is right with the world help meeeeeeee
[08:12] <setuid> veriz: No, probably powered off or lockups without a clean fsck
[08:12] <Seveas> veriz, phase of the moon, bit fallen over, solar flares, general randomness....
[08:12] <yodza> all: How to force installation on partman undetected partitions, but fdisk detected  ? *****
[08:12] <setuid> I vote flares
[08:12] <veriz> Seveas: so i just should reboot the computer?
[08:13] <Seveas> yodza: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[08:13] <setuid> veriz: seriously, force it to fsck by using tune2fs on it
[08:13] <setuid> veriz: tune2fs -C400 /dev/hda1 && /sbin/reboot
[08:13] <Seveas> veriz, yes, but first backup things while you can still read it
[08:13] <veriz> Seveas: last time I had the problem i rebooted and after that everything worked very well but now again this :S
[08:13] <axisys> anyoen know of a good tool to draw/edit/view visio doc?
[08:13] <axisys> !visio
[08:13] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, axisys
[08:13] <setuid> axisys: sketch, sodipodi, dia
[08:13] <veriz> Seveas: does it delete everything or something?
[08:13] <trappist> axisys: use dia to make similar documents, but I don't think it supports the visio format
[08:14] <Seveas> veriz, if this happens more often that means your disk is dying and you should replace it
[08:14] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: shouldn't any PCMCIA card at least be recognized by the cardbus adapter enough to get its hardware info and set up ndiswrapper to interface with it?
[08:14] <veriz> Seveas: or what does the command do?
[08:14] <setuid> veriz: It may trash it if its unreparable
[08:14] <axisys> how about view visio?
[08:14] <setuid> badblocks would help
[08:14] <Seveas> veriz, the tune2fs just sets a bit that says "Pleas fsck me during boot"
[08:14] <setuid> back up your data, run the tune2fs command above, reboot, let it try to fix it, then boot into single-user and run badblocks on the drive
[08:14] <mwillis> Hey everyone
[08:14] <axisys> this irc is sooo helpful but scroll too fast.. i wonder if there is a way to log all conversation to and from me using the irc client `irssi'
[08:15] <amphi> veriz: and/or run smartctl on the drive
[08:15] <setuid> Note: badblocks will take a L-O-N-G time, but if your drive is dying, its worth it
[08:15] <mwillis> I'm having a lot of trouble with dpkg set-selections
[08:15] <veriz> Seveas: ok trying to reboot... but i think that with my disk is something wrong
[08:15] <Seveas> KoruptidPryde, lspci should list it even without ndiswrapper installed
[08:15] <veriz> Seveas: Hard disk..
[08:15] <setuid> veriz: Make sure you reboot after running tune2fs
[08:15] <mwillis> it simply doesn't seem to have any effect on dpkg's selected packages list
[08:15] <Seveas> veriz, I think so too, you really should replace it
[08:15] <setuid> Otherwise it will mount it rw, which might trash it worse
[08:15] <psusi> you also might want to use the smarttools package to query the drive and find out if it thinks it is dieing
[08:15] <setuid> Or replay the journal across corrupted inodes, NEVER a good plan
[08:16] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: it doesn't.... which makes me think that my PCMCIA slot is broken.... but dmesg shows that the kernel is recognizing cards being inserted andremoved from it
[08:16] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: Then it probably works
[08:16] <mwillis> Does anyone know about dpkg set-selections?
[08:16] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: and the bus IS providing power to the card
[08:16] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: but then why can't I see either of the two different and functional cards in lspci?
[08:17] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: what makes you think the bus is broken?
[08:17] <Rahzel> how to extract the *.mpg data out of an *.bin file? is there any gui-application for (k)ubuntu? <--- found myself a solution maybe .. http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/vcdgrab/vcdgrab-0.1.tar.gz ... If someone were searching for something like this.
[08:17] <thelsdj> axisys: /set autolog on
[08:17] <thelsdj> will log to ~/irclogs/ i believe
[08:17] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: the fact that nothing shows up in lspci after inserting two different cards
[08:17] <fabiob> Rahzel, already tried with mplayer?
[08:17] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: did you install the driver/module for those cards?
[08:18] <Rahzel> fabiob I need to extract the file. Viewing the file is no problem.
[08:18] <axisys> thelsdj: kool .. i just set that
[08:18] <axisys> thelsdj: thnx
[08:18] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas, setuid: they are linksys broadcom cards..... there is no native module, hence the ndiswrappers
[08:18] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: Try a card that Linux supports
[08:18] <snoozix> re.
[08:18] <psusi> Rahzel: assuming the bin file is an image of a vcd and has an accompanying cue sheet?
[08:18] <setuid> broadcom cards in Linux suck
[08:18] <snoozix> setuid: right.
[08:18] <fabiob> Rahzel, mplayer has loads of options, I'm sure it's got the ones for dumping a stream as well
[08:19] <KoruptidPryde> setuid: I can't without buying one... and I don't want to buy one if it turns out my bus is bad
[08:19] <Rahzel> psusi it has got *.cue and is a moviefile.
[08:19] <setuid> Support vendors that support Linux, don't rant at Linux for sucking because vendors don't provide docs or code
[08:19] <axisys> thelsdj: it is working.. i guess i can always grep my name from the log to see only to and from my nick
[08:19] <psusi> Rahzel: if there is only one track inside it, then I think you can just rename it
[08:19] <setuid> KoruptidPryde: Go to an electronics store (Radio Shack? Apple Store) and bring your laptop, plug in a card, and see if it sees it
[08:19] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: I have the same problem, I think. No life at the PCMCIA ports.
[08:19] <Rahzel> psusi most of the time, there are some dir's in it.
[08:20] <mac19857> hi, is there any different between shell-comand "ifup eth0" and the "activation"-button of the "network-admin"
[08:20] <KoruptidPryde> K-Mandla: what type of laptop and what type of card?
[08:20] <Rahzel> wish the best for me to compile that stuff :D
[08:20] <psusi> Rahzel: if it is a cdi then there aren't... cdi doesn't have a filesystem with a directory tree afaik, it's just an mpeg stream
[08:20] <kp_> Hi all i have followed the ubuntu guide for installing my ati drivers, OpenGL screensavers run perfectly now but i just had a look at glxgears and it is really slow. any ideas?
[08:20] <setuid> Seveas: this is weird, mc -x, mc -b and mc -t all produce the same results
[08:21] <trappist> kp_: you can't tell by looking at glxgears whether it's going slow
[08:21] <fabiob> Has anybody tried xserver-xgl?
[08:21] <veriz> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:21] <kp_> Oh so it doesnt matter if there spinning jerky or anything?
[08:21] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas: is there a wayto list pcmcia hardware even if the card has nokernel module support?
[08:21] <jenda> How many Ubunuteros are there?
[08:21] <trappist> fabiob: yeah, I've yet to get compiz working though
[08:21] <K-Mandla> Two different laptops, both pre-Pentium III. A CTX Ezbook 700e and a Compaq Presario 1020. No signs from a Belkin F5d7010, a Linksys WPC54 or a Microsoft MN-520 or SanDisk CF adapter.
[08:21] <no0tic> fabiob, #ubuntu-it
[08:21] <veriz> Seveas: Could you tell me why the the command in /etc/network/interfaces iface eth0 inet dhcp iface eth0 inet dhcp isn't asking for ip from DHCP server?
[08:22] <KoruptidPryde> K-Mandla: won't work on either?
[08:22] <kp_> trappist, Oh so it doesnt matter if there spinning jerky or anything?
[08:22] <setuid> whoa
[08:22] <setuid> this is whacked
[08:22] <Rahzel> aaah, vcdgrab works ;) so, another question. Now I got that "vcdgrab" for terminal use only. Can I make an shortcut on the KDE Desktop for that application??
[08:22] <Wibble-> Can anyone explain why my dialup internet account is activated when I boot up the machine? I would prefer to just activate it from the panel app...
[08:22] <trappist> kp_: nope
[08:22] <Seveas> veriz, could you put the complete file on the pastebin
[08:23] <Seveas> setuid, mc again?
[08:23] <ufo> got only mesa loaded with ati drivers? anyone got an solution?
[08:23] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: Nope. None of those combinations work. Nothing from cardctl, lspci -vvv or lshw. All I get is confirmation from the cardbus hardware. (TI1131 on the EZbook)
[08:23] <Psi-Jack> What groups are used by Ubuntu administration, for allowing particular users access to different things? Such groups like, admin, adm, lpadmin, plugdev, floppy, etc.. Is there a list anywhere documented?
[08:23] <kp_> trappist, Oh, i was under the impression that it did lol. Well im installing Ut2004 at the minute so ill see then.
[08:23] <setuid> Seveas: I have sawfish keyed to open a black-backgrounded xterm with ctrl-alt-b. That sequence runs: 'xterm -name terminal +sb -ls -tn linux -sl 32768 -fn lime -bg black -fg white -geometry 80x20'
[08:23] <setuid> When I run that manually, and launch mc inside the xterm that opens, it works.
[08:23] <snoozix> Wibble-: i think i remember a file /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot or /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot.dsl responsible for it
[08:23] <kp_> ufo,  i have just installed ATI drivers using the guide from ubuntu community and they are working fine
[08:23] <snoozix> Wibble-: have a look what's there.
[08:23] <setuid> When I use ctrl-alt-b, and launch mc in THAT xterm, it fails
[08:23] <trappist> kp_: if glxinfo | grep rendering says Yes I expect it'll run just fine
[08:24] <setuid> weird
[08:24] <xvium> how come it says Make clen is an invalid command?
[08:24] <ufo> kp_, do you have an mobile radeon?
[08:24] <Seveas> setuid, the solar flares are acting up again I guess
[08:24] <xvium> ahem "clean"
[08:24] <setuid> xvium: Because its 'make clean'
[08:24] <xvium> :P
[08:24] <kp_> ufo, No a Radeon 9600
[08:24] <xvium> thats what i meant hahah
[08:24] <setuid> Seveas: I wonder if its processing something from %ENV differently
[08:24] <KoruptidPryde> K-Mandla: odd.... exact same issue I am having..... except that mine is a fairly recent compaq
[08:25] <ufo> kp_, and you got the fgl_glxgears working
[08:25] <kp_> ufo, but i did have the problem your having in SUSE last night. all i did was installed it all in run level 3 and it worked perfect. But it maybe differant in Ubuntu.
[08:25] <xvium> its says command not found ...
[08:25] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get suspend to ram/sleep to show up in the gnome shutdown dialog?
[08:25] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone here know which groups Ubuntu uses for user control?
[08:26] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: I've tried adding "pci=assign-busses" to the kernel boot line. No luck. I've done the whole ndiswrapper thing, and the same.
[08:26] <setuid> weeeeeeirfd
[08:26] <glughf> Good Evening,sven fm Germany, here. Need Help with DWL-650+ Wlan-PCMCIA-Card
[08:26] <xvium> am i missing development  libraries or somthing
[08:27] <kp_> ufo, and fgl_glxgears is working perfectly yes :)
[08:27] <glughf> Dont know where to get a driver ....
[08:27] <Rahzel> anyone knows, how to "join" mpg-videofiles? on windows there are so many tools for something like that, but I didn't found something for kubuntu till now.
[08:27] <pol_> ola ola
[08:27] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125334 ...
[08:27] <varsendagger> hey where can i apt-get the most bleeding edge kdelibs4 and libqt3c102-mt ?
[08:28] <setuid> Seveas: fixed...
[08:28] <setuid> flares must have passed over
[08:28] <SeyToN> ubuntu freeze with mplayer!
[08:28] <beerockxs> Rahzel, can't MPG2 files just be copied into one file?
[08:28] <setuid> varsendagger: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 dapper main
[08:28] <Rahzel> beerockxs maybe, but how?
[08:28] <Rahzel> is there any merge command for the console?
[08:29] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, dangit. Most questions I have, ubuntu-related, I never get answered, even some of the simpler ones. Or so I *thought* they were simple. :p
[08:29] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Ask them differently
[08:29] <ufo> !ati
[08:29] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:29] <varsendagger> setuid, can i do that one with breezy?
[08:29] <KoruptidPryde> K-Mandla: are you using a custom kernel?
[08:29] <snoozix> !nvidia
[08:29] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:29] <mac19857> hi, is there any different between shell-comand "ifup eth0" and the "activation"-button of the "network-admin"
[08:29] <setuid> varsendagger: Sure, but you'll only get breezy libs
[08:29] <Psi-Jack> setuid: How can I reword my question about which Groups ubuntu makes use of for user allowance/restriction? It's very specific.
[08:30] <setuid> Psi-Jack: That's not specific. You mean Ubuntu the community? The forums? The wiki? The Foundation? The Distribution?
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> setuid: No, the distribution!
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> lol
[08:30] <K-Mandla> KoruptidPryde: Nope. This is a straight Ubuntu server install. No updates or modifications.
[08:30] <damian_> lk
[08:30] <xvium> ../src/projectM# make clean
[08:30] <xvium> -bash: make: command not found
[08:30] <xvium> root@Xvium:/home/xvium/Desktop/projectM-0.97.5/projectM-0.97/src/projectM#
[08:30] <setuid> Psi-Jack: You mean /etc/group kind of quotas?
[08:30] <setuid> xvium: apt-get install make
[08:31] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me how to get suspend to ram/sleep to show up in the gnome shutdown dialog?
[08:31] <janno> Why other comps cant connect with my comp
[08:31] <xvium> thx
[08:31] <trappist> xvium: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:31] <Psi-Jack> setuid: /etc/group, yes, but those aren't related anything to quotas. ;)
[08:31] <setuid> Psi-Jack: You asked about group allowance/restrictions, THAT means quota
[08:31] <setuid> quota resources, quota disk, quota permissions, etc.
[08:31] <olicat> does anyone have an idea how i can map Alt + 3 to produce a certain character? i can get the button to print the char on its own, but not Alt + button
[08:32] <varsendagger> hey i have these errors:
[08:32] <varsendagger> varicad2005-en depends on kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-6.4); however:
[08:32] <varsendagger>   Package kdelibs4 is not installed.
[08:32] <varsendagger>  varicad2005-en depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however:
[08:32] <varsendagger>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[08:32] <Psi-Jack> setuid: Hmm. In a matter of speaking, it's more of an ACL, than a quota. Using the system groups as the ACL list.
[08:32] <varsendagger> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:32] <varsendagger> anyway
[08:32] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Check out the SELinux policies
[08:32] <varsendagger> would i need to upgrade to dapper?
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> Anyway. What does Ubuntu Linux use for /etc/groups for users to allow access to various things? I've noticed a couple. but am unsure what others may be used.
[08:33] <Profichilla> hi ... when starting wine (on ubuntu dapper, that is, I actually have 0.97-winehq-1 installed, though the original verson does the same) ... it justs returns "Gettet"(=killed) whatever I do. What's the reason for this?
[08:34] <Psi-Jack> And, quite possibly, is that list of groups documented anywhere?
[08:34] <veriz> Seveas: now getting this error :( mount hdb2 - failed
[08:34] <veriz> Seveas: the hard disk might be dead?
[08:35] <Psi-Jack> setuid: Purhaps do you know?
[08:35] <w3svc> is there any webbrowser in terminal mode that can show images?
[08:35] <Psi-Jack> w3svc: links2
[08:35] <w3svc> Psi-Jack: thnx
[08:35] <olicat> or even, how can I say Shift + 2 = Euro ?
[08:35] <martin__> Holaaaaaa
[08:36] <martin__> ZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZz
[08:36] <ufo> !ati
[08:36] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:36] <janno> !networking
[08:36] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, janno
[08:36] <janno> !network
[08:36] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[08:36] <olicat> i cant work out how to tell xmodmap that i want Euro to be produced when i press 2, but only if shift is pressed too
[08:36] <janno> lol
[08:37] <olicat> does anyone have an idea on the xmodmap syntax?
[08:37] <martin__> alguien habla espaol?????????
[08:37] <mfuentes> martin__, #ubuntu-es para espaol
[08:37] <cs02rm0> anyone know where my wireless device might have gone to under dapper?
[08:37] <setuid> cs02rm0: iwconfig
[08:37] <martin__> que???
[08:37] <darren_> I was jusy going to ask that.
[08:38] <martin__> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[08:38] <darren_> I was using ndiswrapper
[08:38] <cs02rm0> i can't believe i forgot that. i was using ifconfig :s
[08:38] <cs02rm0> thanks
[08:38] <cs02rm0> darren_: so am i
[08:38] <setuid> # iptables-save | grep "dport 25" | wc -l
[08:38] <setuid> 1125
[08:38] <Psi-Jack> setuid: What does SElinux Policies have to do with Ubuntu's use of /etc/groups?
[08:38] <setuid> I love spammers
[08:39] <Psi-Jack> Err /etc/group
[08:39] <setuid> Psi-Jack: You're asking about ACLs
[08:39] <naetrick> Ok, apt-get is acting really weird
[08:39] <setuid> Psi-Jack: http://acl.bestbits.at/
[08:39] <TiFtOuF> bonjour all
[08:39] <setuid> Psi-Jack: http://www.suse.de/~agruen/acl/linux-acls/online/
[08:39] <naetrick> I installed MythTV... then I updated something, and now mythtv is gone, and when I try to install it again, I get dependency problems that shouldn't be occurring
[08:39] <janno> When the next ubuntu will released?
[08:39] <janno> :P
[08:40] <TiFtOuF> hi
[08:40] <TiFtOuF> is there french ?
[08:40] <Xappe> janno: April 20th iirc
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> setuid: For one, ACL's don't relate JUST to filesystem ACLs. *sighhs*
[08:40] <w3svc> is there any release candidate for links2 to ubuntu?
[08:40] <setuid> Psi-Jack: keep reading
[08:40] <janno> oo and when it happens then i must download it again and format my hdd?
[08:40] <Xappe> w3svc: links2 is in the repos
[08:41] <w3svc> Xappe: hmmmm tried and it says that the package cold not be found
[08:41] <Protocol1> linksys2?
[08:41] <damnhi1> do any of  you have the ubuntu 6.04 development kernel config file?
[08:41] <ufo> !ati
[08:41] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:41] <instant> Is there any way to make my mp3-player which now shows up as a removable volume, to show up as a mp3-player?
[08:41] <jetscreamer> !info links2
[08:41] <Psi-Jack> setuid: I know ACL's. I use them extensively in filesystem use, cyrus-imapd mailboxes, etc. That still does NOT tell me what specific groups Ubuntu uses to allow specific things.
[08:41] <Xappe> w3svc: enable universe and multiverse repos would do the trick I guess
[08:41] <ubotu> links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[08:41] <TiFtOuF> bonjour tout le monde
[08:42] <jetscreamer> !fr
[08:42] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:42] <darren_> It seems that Dapper changed wlan0 to eth1 for wireless.  Any ideas
[08:42] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Ignore the 'ubuntu' part of your question. You're asking what, specifically? How to restrict what? Access to what?
[08:42] <SeyToN> Linux x86_64<--- its that for 64 bits distros?
[08:42] <setuid> SeyToN: yes
[08:42] <SeyToN> thanks
[08:42] <xvium> Hello again, ok for some reason now after running "apt-get -f install" it cant download needed packages from ca.archive.ubuntu.com it just sits there at 0% ?
[08:43] <setuid> xvium: ping www.google.com
[08:43] <setuid> xvium: dns broken?
[08:43] <jetscreamer> SeyToN: i think it's for intel itanium
[08:43] <xvium> no i have net
[08:43] <jetscreamer> there is/should be a different version for regular 64bit
[08:43] <jetscreamer> SeyToN: i could be wurng
[08:43] <Psi-Jack> setuid: What groups does Ubuntu use for various restrictions?  I notice the use of "adm" and "lpadmin", which I normally do *not* see used in any other distributions, and I want to know what others are used to allow/deny specifics, and which ones should remain system-only.
[08:43] <setuid> You would be ;)
[08:44] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Why? Are you trying to remove them?
[08:44] <setuid> You're not being specific enough
[08:44] <codo> someone please tell me how to get the source in ubuntu
[08:44] <codo> whats package name ?
[08:44] <jetscreamer> lpadmin is a cups thing
[08:44] <setuid> codo: apt-get source package-name
[08:44] <Mabus06> is there a command to view all wireless networks available?
[08:44] <instant> Is there any way to make my mp3-player show up as a mp3-player instead of a removable volume???
[08:44] <Bean> how do i set ctrl-alt-del to open the Gnome Status Monitor?
[08:44] <Psi-Jack> setuid: I'm trying to make use of the set guidelines Ubuntu provides, mainly. Is that so much?  I'd like to be able to view the channel it's on, the mac addresses, etc.
[08:46] <setuid> MacSlow: iwconfig
[08:46] <Spastjeh> anyone got xgl running on an ati (7500 mobile thing) ?
[08:46] <jetscreamer> hah
[08:46] <MacSlow> setuid, ?
[08:47] <MacSlow> setuid, some nick-completion went "wild"?! ;-)
[08:47] <jetscreamer> MacSlow: him mean Mabus06
[08:47] <setuid> MacSlow: it did?
[08:47] <bimberi> Mabus06: iwlist <interface> scanning
[08:47] <foopub> I just intalled Ubuntu again, disabled all display resolutions except 1024x768, and the screen is still 640x480 and that is the only opintion in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[08:47] <setuid> oh, whoops
[08:48] <Mabus06> jetscreamer: iwconfig only shows the one I'm connected to, not the others.. and it doesn't show a lot of info
[08:48] <jetscreamer> Mabus06: /me know nothing (about wireless no gottee)
[08:48] <jetscreamer> Mabus06: try what bimberi said
[08:48] <foopub> Anyone know what might be wrong? It has worked on prior installations.
[08:48] <bluefoxicy> Why can programs not map more than a gig of memory in ubuntu?
[08:49] <Mabus06> okay
[08:49] <trappist> bluefoxicy: you need a kernel that supports more than a gig
[08:49] <Nogimics> How can I find out how much diskspace is left via SSH into ubuntu pls?
[08:49] <jetscreamer> foopub: you sure you're using the correct xorg driver?
[08:49] <Mabus06> bimberi: I'm still having troubles, can I /query you?
[08:49] <jetscreamer> df -h maybe Nogimics
[08:49] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  and the stock vanilla kernel from kernel.org should be doing 3G user and 1G kernel
[08:49] <Psi-Jack> setuid: So, by chance, do you know, or know where it might be documented by some Ubuntu Administration Guide or something?
[08:49] <foopub> jetscreamer: How would I find out? I just installed Ubuntu.
[08:49] <Nogimics> Thank you jetscreamer
[08:49] <Nogimics> that worked
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  so what did ubuntu do to the kernel
[08:50] <trappist> bluefoxicy: it's a compile time option - you can build the kernel with support for < 1gig, 4gig or 16 gig iirc
[08:50] <jetscreamer> you need to enable high/largemem in the kernel iirc
[08:50] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Nope, groups are groups, its not really related to granular ACLs
[08:50] <cs02rm0> iwconfig complains that device wlan0 does not exist and i need to check the system messages... in /var/log/messages it complains that there might be a driver mismatch.
[08:50] <jetscreamer> what trappist said
[08:50] <xvium> xvium no i don't know whats wrong  the net works fine , they should have made the program so it selects a different mirror at timeout or something but ca.archive.ubuntu.com seems unreachable
[08:50] <xvium> xvium apt-get -f install
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Reading package lists... Done
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Building dependency tree... Done
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Correcting dependencies... Done
[08:50] <TiFtOuF> bonjour
[08:50] <xvium> xvium The following extra packages will be installed:
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  there is NO WAY to compile time build for more than 4 gig.
[08:50] <xvium> xvium   gcc-3.3-base jackd libjack0.80.0-0 libstdc++5
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Suggested packages:
[08:50] <xvium> xvium   qjackctl jack-tools meterbridge libjackasyn0
[08:50] <trappist> bluefoxicy: and support for lots of ram is costly, so you don't want it if you don't have the ram
[08:50] <xvium> xvium The following packages will be REMOVED:
[08:50] <Rahzel> is there any merge command ?
[08:50] <xvium> xvium   libvisual-plugins
[08:50] <xvium> xvium The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:50] <xvium> xvium   gcc-3.3-base jackd libjack0.80.0-0 libstdc++5
[08:50] <Nogimics> Dont paste in here
[08:50] <xvium> xvium 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:50] <xvium> xvium 1 not fully installed or removed.
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Need to get 151kB/597kB of archives.
[08:50] <xvium> xvium After unpacking 1606kB disk space will be freed.
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  32 bit systems only allow the applications to address up to 4 gig, and the top 1 gig is usually kernel mapped.
[08:50] <jetscreamer> bluefoxicy: you sure?
[08:50] <xvium> xvium Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[08:50] <jetscreamer> xvium: shaddup
[08:50] <xvium> xvium 0% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[08:51] <xvium> then it just sits there .. opps sorry
[08:51] <bluefoxicy> jetscreamer:  you need a 64 bit system, and then it's 256 TiB of VM.
[08:51] <jetscreamer> :)
[08:51] <Nogimics> xvium use: http://pastebin.com/
[08:51] <oklinux> is ubuntu base on debian ?
[08:51] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  so what did they break?
[08:51] <Rahzel> i think so oklinux
[08:51] <w3svc> howto give example_user root priviliges?
[08:51] <jetscreamer> oklinux: don't use the d word
[08:51] <Seveas> !tell oklinux about debian
[08:51] <Seveas> jetscreamer, ?
[08:51] <jetscreamer> sudo
[08:51] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  there's supposed to be a 3G/1G split User/kernel last I looked.
[08:51] <Psi-Jack> setuid: STOP changing my words. :p
[08:51] <trappist> bluefoxicy: they didn't break anything.  they didn't compile the i386 kernel with support for > 1 gig of ram.  you can get the i686 or k7 kernel for that.
[08:51] !lilo:*! Hi all....if you've seen spam recently from someone with the nick SolarMRqI, please paste it to me and let me know what channel it was on....thanks!
[08:51] <bimberi> Mabus06: sorry, i was away, ok to /query but that's really the extent of my knowledge :|
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  no, wrong.
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  I said 3G/1G split, not ram
[08:52] <thegladiator> any good ftp programs ?  thanks
[08:52] <jetscreamer> gftp
[08:52] <Psi-Jack> setuid: It's the most annoying thing in the world, to have someone, not only change someone's words around, but use that to completely run someone around in useless loops, for absolutely no reason.
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  Let me try to explain this to you.
[08:52] <setuid> Psi-Jack: Where did I change your words?
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  when you have a program, it wants ram, right?
[08:52] <oklinux> so what are you saying jetscreamer
[08:52] <trappist> bluefoxicy: the kernel doesn't reserve a gig of memory for itself.  it consumes what it consumes, which generally isn't much and frees the rest.
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  so it gets the kernel to map it some ram.  The kernel goes, "oh, there's physical memory here not in use.  You can access it at 0xdeadbabe"
[08:52] <Psi-Jack> setuid: For one, I said that /etc/groups was MORE ACL-like, than quotas. Not that it was.
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  now the program goes there and there's the memory.
[08:53] <jetscreamer> oklinux: just that #ubuntu doesn't like the d word, and #debian doesn't like the u word
[08:53] <gyuszk> cscs
[08:53] <oklinux> hello trappist how are you doing ?
[08:53] <thegladiator> !ftp
[08:53] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  now, if you have 600000 gigs of memory, there are only 32 bits of addressing in 32 bit code, so a program can at most address 4 gigs of memory
[08:53] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[08:53] <Psi-Jack> Anyway.
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  but the kernel maps ITSELF in the top 1 gig of program application space, so each program can only address at most 3 gigs of virtual memory.
[08:53] <Psi-Jack> Is there an Ubuntu Linux Administration Guide anywhere?
[08:53] <squid0> !dvd rip
[08:53] <ubotu> squid0: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:53] <olicat> is it possible to map a key to produce a certain string?
[08:54] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  now apparently on ubuntu, this is not happening.  I t appears programs are restricted to 1 gig
[08:54] <jetscreamer> !find dvdrip
[08:54] <w3svc> howto give example_user root priviliges?
[08:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'dvdrip' (3 shown): dvdrip ;; dvdrip-doc ;; video-dvdrip-doc.
[08:54] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search something
[08:54] <Snak1> I need help with the Synaptic Package Manager
[08:54] <bluefoxicy> trappist: do you understand the question now?
[08:54] <oklinux> ok its cool then but I like ubuntu better my hard drive crashed and it had d in it I did not want to spend the whole day putting it back in so ubuntu to the rescue
[08:54] <trappist> bluefoxicy: does 'free' or a similar app show that you even *have* more than a gig?
[08:54] <foopub> jetscreamer: How do I know if the correct xorg drivers are being used?
[08:54] <jetscreamer> apt-get remove --purge synaptic
[08:54] <psusi> bluefoxicy: what makes you say that?
[08:54] <bluefoxicy> trappist:  *facedesk*
[08:54] <squid0> jetscreamer: thanks
[08:54] <jetscreamer> NOOOO
[08:54] <jetscreamer> i was kidding
[08:54] <pld_> i am looking for help setting up samba to allow a windows machine to print to my cups printer... anyone help?
[08:54] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  well, I mmap()ed continuously until mmap() failed, and when my VM space grew to 1023.9 megs, it failed.
[08:54] <jetscreamer> oh worng person
[08:55] <jetscreamer> foopub: grep the xorg.conf
[08:55] <psusi> bluefoxicy: how much ram and swap do you have?
[08:55] <hype1> hi
[08:55] <foopub> jetscreamer: For what?
[08:55] <bluefoxicy> psusi:  irrelavent.