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[09:21] <qengho> Hi hi. I have a foreign package that's imported to launchpad. It has a debian/{control,rules,compat,source/format}, and I wish to overwrite or mutate things in debian/ . I made my own branch that contains debian/..., and tried "nest-part", but got conflict on debian (to "debian.moved"). Is it possible to overwrite things that already exist in upstream branch?
[09:59] <wgrant> Launchpad will shortly be going offline for a couple of minutes while we make some changes to our database setup.
[10:04] <czajkows1i> wgrant: :)
[12:33] <cebka> hello, I got a question regarding updating pgp keys for launchpad: I've added new identity to my gpg key and synced it with the launchpad keyserver. however, I still got an error "The signer of this package has no upload rights to this distribution's primary archive" when using dput
[12:33] <cebka> are there any ways to figure out what is the problem with the key?
[12:34] <wgrant> cebka: You're trying to upload to Ubuntu itself, not your PPA.
[12:34] <wgrant> cebka: What command are you using to perform the upload?
[12:37] <cebka> oh, that makes sense... I have .dput.cf where I've defined the ppa, but I need to specify its name in the command line
[12:38] <wgrant> On Ubuntu you can just say 'dput ppa:USERNAME/PPANAME WHATEVER_source.changes'
[12:38] <wgrant> But if you're not using Ubuntu then you'll need a .dput.cf
[12:51] <cebka> that helped, thank you
[12:52] <cebka> by the way, is there any way to build packages for different ubuntu series using launchpad? for example, suse OBS doesn't require any special actions to do it
[13:18]  * mpt waits for Launchpad to return
[13:18] <wgrant> DB upgrades going slightly awry
[13:18] <wgrant> Will be back in a moment
[13:20] <wgrant> Should be happy again now, let me know if you see any more issues.
[13:42] <shadeslayer> wgrant: my scripts are failing http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879094/
[13:43]  * wgrant glares at the librarian
[13:43] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879099/ < script
[13:43] <wgrant> Yeah, the librarian doesn't like the DB work we're doing atm
[13:44] <wgrant> That will be over in a minute or two, and then I'll fix the librarian.
[13:44] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[13:44] <shadeslayer> thx
[13:59] <shadeslayer> wgrant: do I have to wait a bit for uploading stuff
[14:00] <wgrant> shadeslayer: Uploads aren't being processed right now, but they're queued.
[14:01] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[16:18] <qengho> Hi hi. I have a foreign branch that's imported to launchpad. It has debian/{control,rules,compat,source/format}, and I wish to overwrite or mutate things in debian/ . I made my own branch that contains debian/..., and tried "nest-part", but got conflict on debian (to "debian.moved"). In packaging recipes, is it possible to overwrite or override things that already exist in an upstream branch?
[17:33] <dobey> qengho: i think you have to maintain a fork with your changes in debian/ and merge it, rather than nest it


[20:29] <thedark> okay, how about this for an easy question
[20:29] <thedark> I changed my system language to Korean
[20:29] <thedark> now I am trying to switch it back
[20:29] <thedark> but still some apps are in Korean
[20:30] <thedark> yet I removed every language but US English and set it to the default language
[20:30] <thedark> and have logged out twice
[20:30] <p_quarles> thedark: sudo update-locale
[20:30] <Unksi> thedark: what is the output of locale?
[20:31] <thedark> nothing happens
[20:31] <thedark> yeah nothing happens
[20:31] <thedark> LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8
[20:31] <thedark> LANGUAGE=ko_KR:ko:en_GB:en
[20:32] <thedark> well that is the output for just "locale"
[20:32] <Unksi> ok
[20:32] <thedark> but nothing happens when I enter sudo update-locale
[20:32] <Unksi> thedark: try sudo update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE
[20:33] <fung> ghostcube: nope. still same :/
[20:33] <ghostcube> fung, hmm what soundcard is this
[20:33] <thedark> nothing happened
[20:34] <thedark> should I have seen something or do I need to logout?
[20:34] <Unksi> thedark: try logging out
[20:35] <kaddi> how can i zoom in and out in imagemagick
[20:35] <kaddi> i can only see about a tenth of my image :(
[20:35] <kaddi> (this is on kde4.2)
[20:36] <fung> ghostcube: audigy 2
[20:36] <thedark> didn't work
[20:36] <Unksi> ok, did the output of locale change?
[20:37] <thedark> yes
[20:37] <thedark> except for one line
[20:37] <thedark> LANGUAGE=ko_KR:ko:en_GB:en
[20:38] <Unksi> ok, try sudo update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF8
[20:38] <Unksi> sudo update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
[20:39] <Unksi> typoed^
[20:39] <thedark> didn't change it
[20:39] <setuid_w00t> Is there a way to make kmail show the receiver instead of the sender in my Sent mail folder?
[20:39] <Unksi> hmm
[20:40] <moox> hi
[20:40] <thedark> :(
[20:40] <Unksi> what if you do export LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 ?
[20:40] <Unksi> and then check locale
[20:41] <thedark> it changed it
[20:41] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: since kde 4.2 yes, i don't know about 4.1.3 though
[20:41] <Unksi> only temporarily
[20:41] <Unksi> hmm
[20:41] <thedark> !
[20:41] <moox> I have a little problem when upgrading from gnome (ubuntu 8.10) to kde 4.2
[20:41] <Unksi> whats the contents of /etc/default/locale ?
[20:41] <moox> some file in .kde/share/config are no writable
[20:42] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: Is that the version that you are running? (4.2)
[20:42] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: yes
[20:42] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: Can you tell me how to do it in that version and I will check if it's available in 4.1.3
[20:42] <BentFrank> My system is Kubuntu 8.10.  "ls -l foo" gives me "-rwxrwSrwx".  I do "chmod 0777 foo".  The perms don;t change.  What is that capital S in my perms and why doesnt 0777 clear it?
[20:43] <BentFrank> It's on a share mounted from a NAS if thamatters
[20:43] <ghostcube> fung, pci ?
[20:44] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: i dont think that its available. on the right of the search bar there are several buttons, one is called 'select view appearance'
[20:45] <fung> ghostcube, yes
[20:45] <Guest3563> I just updated kde 4.2 from ppa repository and desktop effects have stoped working
[20:46] <Guest3563> I have tested the glx and dri and everything works fine on games, etc...
[20:46] <thedark> so what can I do?
[20:46] <fung> anyway I asked someone in #alsa and just noticed alsa 1.0.19 came out. I'm using .17 right now so
[20:46] <thedark> this is the worst computing day ever :(
[20:46] <Guest3563> any ideas where I should start looking to solve this?
[20:47] <ghostcube> fung, the audigy2 should work fine
[20:47] <gekkoo> moox: you could do execute this cmd: find ~/.kde/share/config -exec chmod u+rw,g+rw,o+r '{}' \;
[20:47] <ghostcube> fung, what is set as primary sound output in systemsettings multimedia and then inside music ?
[20:47] <ghostcube> check that the alsa device is the first one
[20:48] <ghostcube> not pulseaudio
[20:48] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: The only button I see there is "Open Full Search"
[20:48] <Skrot-> Hi, I'm having some issues with (k)networkmanager in kubuntu 8.10. If I click a essid in knetworkmanager, nothing happens. Any ideas where to start debugging this?
[20:49] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: then it's not possible, i guess
[20:49] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: 4.2 will be in the 9.04 right?
[20:49] <fung> ghostcube, alsa? that's not even on the list for me.
[20:49] <Unksi> thedark: whats the contents of /etc/default/locale ?
[20:49] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: yea, i think so
[20:50] <fung> ghostcube, audigy is first on the list
[20:50] <ghostcube> fung can u post a screenshot of the audio sources to pastie.org
[20:50] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: I can wait I guess.  Thanks for the help
[20:50] <gekkoo> 4.2 is very stable and fast
[20:50] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: How did you install it?   Japanese characters
[20:52] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: So I'm guessing that 4.2 fixed more problems for you than it created?
[20:53] <ghostcube> fung, try the english flag in the right upper corner or .com
[20:53] <ghostcube> sorry
[20:53] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: yes, definitely
[20:53] <ghostcube> :)
[20:53] <Unksi> thedark: ok, make it empty and put LANG=en_US.UTF-8 there
[20:53] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: Thanks again.  I'll check out 4.2 later today/
[20:53] <Unksi> and try relogging
[20:55] <Guest3563> hmm
[20:55] <cptaj> hey guys, I installed kde on my vanilla ubuntu. Can you link me to that one tutorial on how to completely remove kde? >_>
[20:55] <fung> ghostcube, http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-Multimedia_-_System_Settings.png
[20:55] <Unksi> !gnomeonly
[20:55] <Unksi> !puregnome
[20:55] <thedark> it worked :D
[20:55] <thedark> finally, something goes right
[20:55] <Unksi> thedark: great :)
[20:56] <Guest3563> weird, I now have both my desktop and laptop computers with the latest ppa5 packages from kde 4.2 and bath have broken desktop effects
[20:57] <cptaj> thanks I'll give that a shot
[20:57] <Unksi> yw :)
[20:58] <ghostcube> fung, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=938521
[20:58] <ghostcube> have u checked this
[20:58] <cbwcjw> So if I want to remove all GNOME packages....
[20:58] <cbwcjw> !purekde
[20:58] <cbwcjw> ahha!
[20:59] <joshuajtl> will installing/using gtk apps in kde slow down general performance?
[20:59] <Guest3563> nope
[20:59] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: They run pretty fine.
[20:59] <Guest3563> is anyone here using kde 4.2?
[20:59]  * cbwcjw is
[21:00]  * gekkoo is
[21:00] <joshuajtl> I am
[21:00] <Guest3563> can you install the latest updates from repository
[21:00] <Guest3563> and tell me if desktop effects still works afterwards
[21:00] <cbwcjw> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[21:00] <joshuajtl> yes they do
[21:00] <gekkoo> yep
[21:01] <joshuajtl> anyone know how to turn off grouping in the panel?
[21:01] <Guest3563> damnit, both my computers have the same problem
[21:01] <gekkoo> joshuajtl: righ-click task manager settings :)
[21:01] <Guest3563> is there any reason why 3d games, etc... work fine but kde 4.2 desktop effects don't?
[21:01] <fung> ghostcube, I'm not sure what that command is supposed to do.. looks just like as if I ran 'alsamixer' in the terminal. I checked again though and everything is turned up
[21:01] <joshuajtl> oh yeah didnt see it i guess thanks gekko
[21:02] <joshuajtl> ok I updated to 4.2 now i don't have any (except default) plasma themes... but searching for plasma in adept got me nothing
[21:03] <cbwcjw> "Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids." -> From the Kubuntu site
[21:03] <fung> joshuajtl, you can alsa disable grouping manually for each group by middle mouse clicking. nifty little funtion
[21:03] <joshuajtl> yeah i read that, it doesnt say no plasma packages are compatible just that old ones arent
[21:03] <joshuajtl> hmm that is neat fung thx
[21:04] <joshuajtl> i have never liked adept, does anyone use anything else other than command line?
[21:04] <gekkoo> aptitude :)
[21:04] <joshuajtl> ... command line
[21:05] <fung> ghostcube, Hey I think I found the culprit
[21:06] <fung> ghostcube, almost blew out my eardrums too. I was randomly muting different things and by muting Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack, sound came back
[21:06] <joshuajtl> plus I tried kde 4.2 with suse live cd and it had other plasma themes...
[21:06] <joshuajtl> not just default
[21:06] <gekkoo> well, isnt there something called kpackage? never tried it though
[21:06] <cptaj> !puregnome
[21:06] <ghostcube> fung, cool
[21:06] <gekkoo> joshuajtl: you can download new themes easily
[21:07] <joshuajtl> oh yeah forgot about that gekko, thanks...
[21:07] <joshuajtl> I just came back to kubuntu been away for a bit trying out windows 7
[21:07] <fung> ghostcube, thx for your help!
[21:07] <gekkoo> it's really well integrated
[21:07] <ghostcube> np man
[21:07] <joshuajtl> what is well integrated
[21:08] <gekkoo> the theme downloading thingy :)
[21:08] <joshuajtl> oh yeah it is
[21:11] <joshuajtl> anyone else dislike the new 4.2 panel theme? (just saying)
[21:11] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: I actually like it a LOT more
[21:12] <joshuajtl> wow odd... i guess you just cant dispute taste
[21:13] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: I disliked 4.1's actually :P Taste is everything
[21:14] <joshuajtl> i'm installing all the new themes :)
[21:16] <joshuajtl> i'm going to install Sugar gui from OLPC
[21:17] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: hahahah!
[21:17] <|gunni|> I miss my movie thumbnails in kde 4 (kubuntu intrepid, kde 4.2) Is there a known way to get them back?
[21:17] <joshuajtl> cbwcjw: seroiusly, it's an interesting idea
[21:18] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: Yea, its just OLPC is losing money reallly fast, but that is pretty cool
[21:18] <joshuajtl> are they that's too bad
[21:20] <elione> hola necesito ayuda con el apagado de mi pc tengo instalado KDE 4.2 en Ubuntu 8.10 en un asus eee pc,por favor abridme un privado,muchas gracias de antemano
[21:21] <ghostcube> !es | elione
[21:33] <carpii_> im using kmail with several 'identities'. One identity fails to send mail with the error 'Unknown Transport Protocol'. The other identity works fine. Has anyone had this, its driving me crazy since theyre both gmail accounts with similar settings?
[21:35] <elione> #ubuntu-es
[21:35] <moshu> Hei hei :)
[21:35] <moshu> Waddup ppl? :D
[21:36] <moshu> Damn, I can`t get any sound from the PC, someone has any idea?
[21:36] <moshu> it`s Ubuntu with KD
[21:36] <moshu> E
[21:46] <Doates> How do I download wine when using kubuntu?
[21:52] <faydriss> apt-get wine
[21:52] <BentFrank> My system is Kubuntu 8.10.  foo is a file on a NAS mounted via samba.  "ls -l foo" gives me "-rwxrwSrwx".  I do "chmod 0777 foo".  The perms don't change.  What is that capital S in my perms and why doesnt 0777 clear it?
[21:52] <faydriss> too many numbers?
[21:52] <faydriss> why 0777 and not 777?
[21:52] <maco> faydriss: 0 means "no sticky bit"
[21:53] <faydriss> k
[21:53] <BentFrank> the 0 place can be 2 for setgid and 4 for setuid
[21:53] <BentFrank> i think 1 means sticky
[21:53] <maco> BentFrank: thanks. couldnt remember the other options
[21:54] <BentFrank> stat foo gives: 2767/-rwxrwSrwx
[21:56] <moshu> Someone please help me? :)
[21:56] <moshu> I can`t hear any sound :|
[21:57] <moshu> From the PC of course :)
[21:57] <ghostcube> moshu, what card is this ?
[21:58] <moshu> Hm... dunno
[21:58] <moshu> 1 sec :)
[21:58] <moshu> It`s integrate
[21:58] <moshu> d I believe
[21:59] <ghostcube> lspci
[21:59] <ghostcube> is there any sound card mentioned
[22:00] <Doates> can someone help me install wine
[22:00] <moshu> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[22:00] <gekkoo> BentFrank: does chmod g-s clears that bit?
[22:00] <moshu> app-get wine
[22:00] <moshu> apt-get
[22:00] <moshu> :)
[22:00] <Doates> where do i put that?
[22:00] <moshu> in the konsole?
[22:01] <Doates> okay thankyou im dumb
[22:01] <ghostcube> moshu, i have an intel audio too have u checked that all outputs are on inside kmix or alsamixer
[22:02] <rwreed> upgrading to 8.10 from 8.4 on reboot got warning during build of driver modules kernel version in version.h does not match currently running kernel thing seems hung. what should I do
[22:02] <moshu> Doates: sudo apt-get install wine
[22:02] <moshu> ghostcube: it`s my first time using linux...
[22:02] <moshu> I try it on a virtual machines, back on vista
[22:03] <ghostcube> moshu, hmm ok then check inside kmix if all channels are on and not muted
[22:03] <moshu> So, I am not so good with it...
[22:03] <moshu> How can I do that?
[22:03] <ghostcube> in the taskbar there is an sound icon
[22:03] <ghostcube> this is kmix normally
[22:03] <Doates> E: Type 'apt-get-wineapt-get-wineapt-get-wine' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:03] <Doates> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[22:03] <moshu> A, that looks ok man
[22:03] <moshu> nothing is muted
[22:03] <moshu> All is 50% oon volume
[22:04] <ghostcube> Doates, sudo apt-get install wine     not more
[22:04] <moshu> Yes, indeed
[22:04] <moshu> I told him so upper :>
[22:04] <ghostcube> moshu, check kmenu >< systemsettings >> sound or on 4.2 multimedia check that the intel device is the first used one
[22:04] <moshu> I had some driver, is called hda intel
[22:05] <Doates> thats what i typed
[22:05] <moshu> 1 sec
[22:05] <ghostcube> Doates, pls post youre sources.list
[22:05] <ghostcube> to pastie.org
[22:06] <raphael> bonjour
[22:07] <moshu> Bonjour raphael
[22:08] <Doates> adept installer isnt opening now
[22:08] <moshu> ghostcube: I can`t reach any sound thing on settings or sistem :\
[22:08] <raphael> je suis entrain de tester cette version d'os
[22:08] <moshu> O, ca va raphael :)
[22:09] <moshu> Moi aussi :)
[22:09] <raphael> bé je sais pas trop si j'men sort avec kubuntu
[22:09] <ghostcube> moshu, maybe the virtual device isnt working correct
[22:09] <ghostcube> moshu, try a lice dvd or cd
[22:09] <ghostcube> live
[22:09] <moshu> I wonder if is there ant command or something
[22:09] <moshu> For drivers or... ?
[22:09] <moshu> lice ?
[22:09] <moshu> a
[22:09] <ghostcube> moshu, nah for testing the system live cd of 8.10
[22:10] <moshu> With live it works :)
[22:10] <Doates> im going to restart and see what that does for me
[22:10] <moshu> I have it on a virtual hdd
[22:10] <ghostcube> then it is an vm problem
[22:10] <moshu> And it was working :|
[22:10] <moshu> But now doesn`t :|
[22:10] <ghostcube> hmm when did it stop
[22:10] <raphael> je voulais mettre hardy heron mais ya rien d autre qui s install a part kubuntu
[22:10] <ghostcube> !fr | rajdhani
[22:10] <moshu> Maybe because now I got it on 64x ?
[22:10] <ghostcube> damn
[22:10] <ghostcube> raphael, was for you
[22:11] <ghostcube> moshu, hmm nah shouldnt matter
[22:11] <raphael> oups i made a mystake so no?
[22:11] <ghostcube> eh  nah :D
[22:11] <ghostcube> !fr | raphael
[22:11] <ghostcube> ;)
[22:12] <raphael> i think i speak english now
[22:12] <moshu> How  can I install audio drivers? :)
[22:12] <moshu> Oh, now you know english :)
[22:12] <moshu> Now it`s fully installed ghostcube
[22:12] <moshu> :)
[22:12] <moshu> The Ubuntu
[22:13] <moshu> I don`t have any sound, and I can`t install falsh player
[22:13] <moshu> Anything else works just fine
[22:13] <raphael> so, i don't know how to use it, how can i do for join the french channel?
[22:14] <moshu> Try: /join #ubuntu-fr
[22:14] <moshu> :)
[22:15] <raphael> join #ubuntu-fr
[22:15] <ghostcube> with /
[22:15] <raphael> ah
[22:15] <raphael> ok
[22:15] <ghostcube> moshu, n oidea what is causing this
[22:15] <moshu> Oh... :(
[22:15] <ghostcube> normally it should work for intel hda
[22:15] <moshu> I`ll look around, maybe I`ll catch it :)
[22:16] <raphael> thank you
[22:16] <moshu> Aha...
[22:16] <moshu> Avp raphael :)
[22:16] <failers> any one know why in kde 4.2 i get error when trying to activate desktop effects?
[22:16] <moshu> Maybe it`s from video card
[22:16] <moshu> Isnt` recognized or something :|
[22:16] <failers> failed to activate desktop effects using the given configureatuib iotuibs
[22:17] <failers> ops
[22:17] <failers> typo there haha
[22:17] <ActionParsnip1> hey guys
[22:17] <failers> moshu: why doesnt it recognize it :/ ?
[22:17] <failers> its nvida
[22:18] <failers> should be compatible ? :|
[22:18] <ActionParsnip1> is there a package i need to install to get tab completion for coomands like apt-get, i can't tab complete 'install' or 'dist-upgrad' can anyone please advise
[22:19] <moshu> I`ve have that problem to
[22:19] <moshu> On a nvidia
[22:19] <failers> :o
[22:19] <moshu> You are running on a virtual machine?
[22:19] <failers> nah
[22:19] <moshu> Hm..
[22:20] <moshu> Try click again that performance thing
[22:20] <moshu> And if it`s not working
[22:20] <failers> performance thing?
[22:20] <moshu> Go on NVidia website and get the latest drivers
[22:20] <moshu> Desktop. ...
[22:21] <ActionParsnip1> also if i have a program running, and i connect via ssh with x forwarding, is there a way to capture the running program to the remote system without having to kill / rerun the program??
[22:21] <failers> moshu: what do you mean with performance thing :S ?
[22:22] <moshu> Where you get that error
[22:22] <moshu> :)
[22:22] <failers> well i got newest driver so it aint that atleast
[22:22] <failers> 180.27
[22:22] <maurizio_> ciao
[22:23] <moshu> Ciao maurizio_
[22:23] <moshu> cmme va? :)
[22:23] <moshu> Hm... dunno failers
[22:23] <moshu> :|
[22:24] <failers> :/
[22:24] <failers> its so lame
[22:24] <moshu> Yes :)
[22:25] <failers> compiz doesnt work since it need some libs that are uninstalled when you install 4.2 and desktop effects isnt working
[22:25] <failers> so here we go all my eyecandy is gone :D
[22:25] <moshu> :|
[22:25] <moshu> It got a problem myself, with audio :D
[22:25] <ActionParsnip1> compiz is worthless anyroad
[22:26] <failers> ActionParsnip1: nah i find the cube nice :)
[22:26] <failers> moshu: what kind of problem?
[22:26] <moshu> I can`t hear any sound :|
[22:26] <moshu> I got ony mp3`s
[22:26] <moshu> I installed a mp3 package for Amarok
[22:27] <moshu> And now Amarok it`s working, but I can`t hear anything :|
[22:28] <failers> :|
[22:29] <moshu> :|
[22:29] <moshu> Brb, I`ll try some stuff
[22:30] <moshu> Anyway, fck Bill Gates :)
[22:30] <Zorix> i want linux bluray video support :/
[22:32] <ActionParsnip1> moshu: windows has its place otherwise it would never get used
[22:33] <moshu> Yes, indeed :)
[22:33] <ActionParsnip1> moshu: so its a moot statement
[22:33] <ActionParsnip1> ;)
[22:33] <moshu> Ok, I understand now!
[22:33] <moshu> :))
[22:34] <KDesk> in kate is it possible to configure it so that when it opens, the left menu/bar doesn't open by defualt?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: that bit is the documents button on the far left
[22:37] <KDesk> ActionParsnip1: yes, that sidebar
[22:37] <KDesk> ActionParsnip1: I don't like it to be open every time I open Kate
[22:37] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: thats all i got
[22:39] <KDesk> ActionParsnip1: When you open Kate, that sidebar isn't open? I can see all the different documents I have open with kate, but I dont like that
[22:40] <joshuajtl> hey folks, oxygen in firefox is still broken, anyone use something else?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: yeah i have it open too
[22:41] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: if you click the left button twice, it goes
[22:42] <joshuajtl> anyone?
[22:42] <harun> yokmu bizim dilden konusan
[22:42] <KDesk> ActionParsnip1: If I click once it goes, but The next time I open kate, it will come again.
[22:43] <KDesk> joshuajtl: What do you mean, the icon theme? I use one from addons.firefox.com
[22:43] <joshuajtl> kdesk no regular kde4 oxygen theme makes tabs in firefox look bad
[22:43] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: theres no man kate either
[22:43] <ActionParsnip1> joshuajtl: install a firefox theme, it'lll override the kde one
[22:44] <joshuajtl> yeah i guess, wanted to keep oxygen
[22:44] <KDesk> joshuajtl: I have an oxygen theme that looks just like oxygen for firefox
[22:45] <KDesk> joshuajtl: ah, no, it is not a theme, it is only icons, the theme I use is onle called Qtcurve for all GTK apps
[22:46] <KDesk> the package is: gtk2-engines-qtcurve
[22:47] <joshuajtl> thx think i'll just change the firefox theme
[22:48] <joshuajtl> http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/ works nicely
[22:49] <joshuajtl> hrmm I got pretty used to windows 7... (left kubuntu to try it out) may go back
[22:50] <Mallulink> Online malayalam movies at http://www.mallulink.com/movies.html
[22:50] <Zorix> i cant believe people still use windows after getting abused by ms
[22:50] <joshuajtl> i never got abused by ms...
[22:51] <joshuajtl> windows 7 is really nice... fast unbuggy
[22:57] <Fieldy> !vmware-player
[22:57] <Fieldy> !vmware
[22:59] <KDesk> the main problem of windows is that is is close sources and propietary, so in general it is tecnicaly inferior and vulnerable, you don't know what you have in you hd, only ms.
[23:00] <joshuajtl> i recommend that everyone try out the free windows 7 beta
[23:01] <tom__> moshu: i got it working now
[23:01] <joshuajtl> honestly so far my experience coming back to kubuntu from windows 7 is that windows 7 felt more solid
[23:02] <moshu> What tom__?
[23:02] <moshu> :)
[23:02] <moshu> Nvidia?
[23:02] <tom__> desktop effects
[23:02] <moshu> aha..
[23:02] <dewman> The great argument of windows and linux.
[23:02] <dewman> hehehe
[23:02] <MoshutZu> Nice then :)
[23:03] <tom__> MoshutZu: test do "glxinfo | grep render"
[23:03] <tom__> for me it says direct rendering no
[23:03] <joshuajtl> dewman: just saying... cuz i just gave 7 a shot...
[23:03] <MoshutZu> Aha..
[23:03] <failers> or said
[23:04] <KDesk> I would not try windows any more because it doesn't respect the standarts, it is as usual a propietary pice of software that you can not trust, any linux/bsd window manager or Desktop envirnoment can be custumized much more, it is more segure and open!
[23:04] <failers> so then i just reinstall xserver nv driver and removed /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so and then just reinstalled nvidia driver
[23:04] <failers> and tada it worked
[23:04] <dewman> Yep...Needing to register so I can download there software is pretty silly.
[23:05] <joshuajtl> battery consumption using windows 7 on my dell 1525 was ridiculously short... so i'm trying kubuntu (as ubuntu came preinstalled on this machine) to test battery consumption...
[23:05] <dewman> but to each there own.
[23:05] <joshuajtl> KDesk: as you wish... wouldn't hurt to try a free beta though... put your money where your mouth is...
[23:06] <dewman> more like put your money into microsoft.... no thanks
[23:06] <astromme> joshuajtl: It's not really free. It's giving your information to microsoft. And it's definitely not free in terms of libre
[23:06] <astromme> and it definitely won't be free come release
[23:06] <joshuajtl> of course it won't ... you can fudge the info if it's that vital to you
[23:06] <joshuajtl> it's not like your giving away your ssn
[23:07] <dewman> the only thing that microsoft gives away is exploits. hehe
[23:07] <joshuajtl> it's funny that everyone who is talking badly about windows 7 here have never tried it...
[23:08] <dewman> how can you make that quick assumption?
[23:08] <dewman> you know that for a fact? Sheesh...
[23:08] <joshuajtl> have you?
[23:08] <KDesk> joshuajtl: don't take it personal, but I hate windows so much that I will never try it again, I have used many years windows, (without paying for it) so the money is not a problem hehe, If you want a program it is malware or shareware or freeware, or malware or virus, it take to much time. GNU/Linux has much more future, and now many more companies are using Linux inside, and in there products, like many mother boards, intel with moblin.
[23:08] <astromme> joshuajtl: yes in fact I have
[23:09] <astromme> joshuajtl: And I decided that my solution for software was superior, based on functuality and flexability, not to mention the cost
[23:09] <MoshutZu> Keep it coming KDesk :)
[23:09] <astromme> but to each his own
[23:09] <dstar> Anyone know if there's a good IRC channel to ask for help on traffic shaping stuff?
[23:09] <joshuajtl> see the intersting thing about windows 7 is that it's basically ms's last chance to get it right before linux takes over a large hunk of their customer base... thats why it's very intersting to try windows 7...
[23:10] <astromme> eh, you could have said that about win98, win2k, winxp, or even windows vista
[23:10] <joshuajtl> astromme windows 7 is a huge leap from all of those
[23:10] <Guest65444> mac is also taking a large hunk
[23:10] <joshuajtl> in every way
[23:10] <cbwcjw> astromme: I beleive thta windows 7 will be just as popular and that the userbases will even out eventually.
[23:10] <astromme> joshuajtl: I've tried it. It's not a huge leap from vista. (Vista isn't so bad itself). It is however not what fits me.
[23:11] <Guest65444> vista is "so bad"
[23:11] <Guest65444> c'mon memory management sucks
[23:11] <astromme> Again, to each their own. In my experience it wasn't bad.
[23:11] <joshuajtl> astromme as far as UI, and usability and performance it is a very huge leap... and I agree that vista is horrible
[23:11] <astromme> joshuajtl: Honestly the UI is quite similar. It changed a few important things here and there, but the interface is largely the same.
[23:11] <cbwcjw> !offtopic
[23:11] <joshuajtl> i agree every os has a place... i'm not arguing that windows 7 is better than any other os... i personally think all os's suck
[23:12] <astromme> Just like the interface in 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, etc... of mac os x has been similar
[23:12] <astromme> or GNOME has been similar (in 2.x) or KDE has been similar (in either 3.x or in 4.x)
[23:12] <KDesk> it is not windows 7 it is WINDOWS, that is the problem, there are so many resons to not use it, segurity, stability, performance. Many goverments don't use windows because of security. In the top500 fastest computer ~80% use Linux. Also like astromme said, GNU/Linux is free as libre. That is the most important, not because of money, because of segurity and to be able to choose.
[23:12] <astromme> but anyways, it's time for other work.
[23:12] <cbwcjw> !offtopic
[23:13] <Guest65444> but gnome or kde are far more customizable than any propietary OS GUI
[23:13] <dewman> yes.... lets talk about making ati drivers work.
[23:13] <astromme> KDesk: You're preaching to the wrong choir. I've been using linux since '01 and exclusively since '04....
[23:13] <dewman> =)
[23:13] <cbwcjw> !ati
[23:13] <joshuajtl> KDesk: actually you can compare performance of ubuntu with windows 7 and they are basically equal
[23:13] <astromme> KDesk: Whoops, didn't read your whole comment.
[23:13] <joshuajtl> and security is really quite good
[23:14] <astromme> anyways, /out
[23:14] <joshuajtl> even IE 8 is nice now... and basically as secure as firefox... times are changing man...
[23:14] <binarymutt> Hehe.
[23:15] <KDesk> Nobody can know if the segurity is good or not, if the source is close....
[23:15] <Guest65444> I'm a web developer, i hate IE
[23:15] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: And google released a webkit browser.  It started to flame up./
[23:16] <joshuajtl> yeah you're right... sorry didn't mean to do that... just wanted to have a conversation about it
[23:17] <KDesk> Every one shoudl read "The Right to Read" It is an essay about more or less free software and propietary and what could happend if no free software would exist, it is writen by Richard Stallman. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
[23:18] <joshuajtl> KDesk: reading now...
[23:18] <joshuajtl> thx
[23:18] <dstar> Anyone know if there's a good IRC channel to ask for help on traffic shaping stuff?
[23:19] <joshuajtl> what kde 4.2 themes are you folk using?
[23:20] <KDesk> joshuajtl: oxygen in KDE 4.2, in 4.1 was not so nice with oxygen.
[23:21] <joshuajtl> oh sorry meant what kde 4.2 PLASMA theme are you all using?
[23:21] <KDesk> With that theme, kde-firefox or similar I had problems in Firefox with the bookmarks. GTK apps are a problem jeje.
[23:22] <joshuajtl> KDesk: what plasma theme are you using?
[23:23] <KDesk> joshuajtl: in plasma, also oxygen, but Elegance, and Galssifild and Slim Glow are good.
[23:23] <joshuajtl> yeah just curious
[23:24] <joshuajtl> you like the new 4.2 oxygen panel look?
[23:25] <KDesk> joshuajtl: Yes, I like the blue arround the tasks in the bar :)
[23:25] <joshuajtl> i guess i'm the only one who doesnt...
[23:25] <KDesk> And Slim Glow has more transparent area. Also with composition are the themes better, because of the transparency
[23:26] <morpheusXNL> goodevening
[23:26] <KDesk> joshuajtl: Ah, hehe, for luck kde-look.org exists.
[23:27] <morpheusXNL> could someone help me out with a simple question?
[23:28] <joshuajtl> morpheusXNL: never ask to ask... just ask
[23:28] <morpheusXNL> i just installed kubuntu yesterday, but unlike previous distributions i am unable to create desktop shortcuts
[23:28] <failers> how do i change color on my panel ? in kde 4.2
[23:28] <failers> its blue and i dont want it that color
[23:28] <joshuajtl> failers: right click desktop go to appearance settings... change plasma theme
[23:29] <failers> only got one there :o
[23:30] <failers> ah
[23:30] <failers> joshuajtl: thx found now
[23:30] <failers> god i like kubuntu :D
[23:30] <failers> a bit hazzle to get working but when it is running
[23:30] <failers> phew
[23:31] <morpheusXNL> what does the plasma actualy do
[23:31] <joshuajtl> plasma is the new desktop system or something  i forget
[23:32] <joshuajtl> aoe 3 rocks
[23:33] <morpheusXNL> so does anyone know how i make a custom desktop shortcut in this new kde
[23:33] <joshuajtl> i dont, have you googled?
[23:34] <morpheusXNL> yeah but can seem to find something
[23:36] <leandro> Hi. How can I configure my network on kde4 system wide?
[23:36] <Blues-Man> hi all
[23:36] <Blues-Man> guys i ve upgraded from interpid to jaunty and I have KDE 4.2 but I can't see many plasmoid
[23:36] <Blues-Man>  I got an error about component missing
[23:37] <leandro> I want to change to static ip, but there is no graphic ui on kde 4 to do taht. N etwork manager seens to do the job just per user
[23:37] <joshuajtl> you're supposed to uninstall plasmoids before updating to 4.2
[23:38] <leandro> and /etc/network/interfaces don't have any configo for eth0. Just for lo
[23:40] <Blues-Man> joshuajtl, i can't run the one with picture slideshow
[23:40] <Blues-Man> It tells me about frame component missing
[23:40] <Blues-Man> what's wrong?=
[23:40] <Blues-Man> and either the calculator one
[23:42] <zeus> hi all
[23:46] <rwreed> hi all. Upgradeing from 8.04 to 8.10 now get a kernel version mismatch error. If I boot previous kernel it boots to kde 4. Any ideas?
[23:52] <asobi> amarok is not ejecting ipod correctly. what's that mount file again?
[23:58] <failers> anyone know how to fix this "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail." i get it on any kind of kde app im compiling
[23:59] <failers> and i got kdelibs6-dev
[23:59] <failers> so it aint those i think :|


[20:11] <YoBoY> hi
[20:20] <sagaci> hi
[20:23] <YoBoY> if I want to report a bug on the html version of the server guide published in help.ubuntu.com, where I should do that ? here https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/ ?
[20:28] <jbicha> YoBoY: yes
[20:29] <YoBoY> done
[20:30] <jbicha> oh, that bug was already reported, let me find the duplicate
[20:31] <YoBoY> haven't found it, sorry :p
[20:36] <jbicha> hmm I can't find it right now either
[22:16] <YoBoY> question : the ubuntu server guide don't have a package in the software center to read it with yelp ?
[22:16] <YoBoY> (first time I try to find it ^^")


[01:28] <thumper> o/
[03:34] <olly> anyone been to argentina?
[03:34] <olly> they seem to have a mains socket very like ours, but with live and neutral switched
[03:34] <olly> at least according to wikipedia
[19:20] <Atamira> morning
[19:20] <Atamira> are you going to argentina olly ?
[19:47] <olly> morning
[19:47] <olly> Atamira: yep
[19:50] <Atamira> ill ask an argentinian friend for you if you like.
[19:54] <olly> Atamira: if that's easy to do, it'd be nice to know more definitely
[19:56] <ibeardsl1e> morning
[19:56] <ibeardslee> and again as me
[19:56] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:59] <olly> i'd expect the power supplies for the laptop etc to not to care which way round live and neutral were - they certainly cope with euro sockets and an adaptor which can go in either way up
[20:06] <Atamira> just sent him a message on facebook. he actually lives here in auckland and works for qantas. if anyone would know, he would. ill let you know when he replies.
[20:07] <olly> great, thanks


[00:57] <mup> Bug #1752754 opened: NodeResult websocket queries scale linearly due to history <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752754>
[01:00] <mup> Bug #1752754 changed: NodeResult websocket queries scale linearly due to history <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752754>
[01:15] <mup> Bug #1752754 opened: NodeResult websocket queries scale linearly due to history <performance> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752754>
[08:22] <mup> Bug #1735822 changed: The commission action for 1 node failed with error: {"current_testing_script_set": ["script set instance with id 233 does not exist."]} <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735822>
[22:08] <mup> Bug #1752440 changed: Lshw incorrectly detects amount of RAM in system <MAAS:Invalid> <lshw (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752440>
[23:05] <kurt_> Hi Mike P. - are you watching the IRC group today?
[23:42] <Bryan123> Is there a way to auto discover IPMI with MAAS?   If i'm deploying 100 nodes, I don't want to have to add ipmi details for each one manually.