[21:36] <gnutron> benbloom_: in gnome metacity alt+f8 to resize a window.
[21:36] <kbrosnan> benbloom_: if your firefox is not remembering its size then firefox's localstore.rdf file may be corrupt. with firefox closed it will be in a subfolder of  ~/.mozilla
[21:36] <Charitwo> ProSI2: only nicks which are registered can be ghosted by nickserv (due to a password being required), see /msg nickserv help ghost - you'll unfortunately have to wait for the nick to timeout and consider registering to avoid that situation in the future. See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup for how to properly setup a nick
[21:37] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html , i just noticed it doesnt list intrepid in the supported list for envyng but its the closest i can get :/ sorry, but i guess you could try :P
[21:37] <Jimi__Hendrix> wait but thats for nvidia...ii have ati
[21:37] <ProSI2> how long does a nick take to time out?
[21:38] <LjL> ProSI2: can take a very long time (days)
[21:38] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : it supports ati as well ;)
[21:38] <dowN70> allsystemsarego, ok thats done now what do i do
[21:38] <Jimi__Hendrix> ok
[21:39] <narcoclepsy> is anyone else having problems with ssh-id-copy? It was working, updated the server, and now it doesn't work
[21:39] <narcoclepsy> even after reinstalling the key
[21:39] <prosi2> thank you for your help Charitwo and LjL
[21:40] <Charitwo> np
[21:42] <benbloom_> Every time I open firefox it opens in what looks like fullscreen mode. if I then hit f11 it goes into what is actually full screen mode, and if i hit it again it looks like it should in the first place. this is really annoying to have to hit f11 twice every time i open a browser window. is this a bug ? or some preference that i have accidently set??
[21:43] <Slart> benbloom_: sounds like you've got some kind of window decorator problem.. I've heard a lot of questions about this lately.. might be a bug in firefox
[21:43] <Slart> benbloom_: have you searched the forums?
[21:43] <gnutron> benbloom_: kbrosnan answered you. try /lastlog benbloom_
[21:45] <Nab> hi all
[21:45] <Caduceus> hacekl
[21:45] <Caduceus> hackel*
[21:45] <Caduceus> I tried to download it from the CD and it said null :(
[21:46] <Phase> Whats the difference between abrowser and firefox?
[21:46] <Slart> Phase: same as the difference between a car and a ford
[21:46] <Jimi__Hendrix> Xero, it wont work
[21:46] <Slart> Phase: unless abrowser is something new..
[21:47] <Slart> !info abrowser
[21:47] <JOHNNY_BOI> CAN ANY1 TEECH ME TO HAK????
[21:47] <benbloom_> gnutron, that is not in my log. something happened to my connection there (hence the comment about it being so quiet)
[21:47] <Slart> Phase: oh.. I'll go sit in the corner.. nevermind me
[21:47] <JOHNNY_BOI> PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ?
[21:47] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : does it give an error message?
[21:47] <Vhghost> can anyone shed some light on why i can't seem to recieve dcc file transferes? it shows up in xchat tranfer file window but will not start the transfer! ?
[21:47] <Phase> Slart, good boy. ;)
[21:47] <fosco_> JOHNNY_BOI: wrong channel, this is for ubuntu assistance only
[21:47] <Jimi__Hendrix> yes about kernel headers
[21:47] <benbloom_> am i still here? grrr. guess my computer's having problems!
[21:47] <JOHNNY_BOI> OMG FU GUYZ WTF JUS WAN SUM HALP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FU
[21:47] <Slart> !ops | JOHNNY_BOI
[21:47] <kaos_> hello
[21:47] <JOHNNY_BOI> inb4ban :(
[21:48] <JOHNNY_BOI> slow ops are slow
[21:48] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : and youre on ubuntu intrepid i presume?
[21:48] <Slart> Phase: isn't the name and logo for firefox registered and non-free ? isn't this why we have iceweasel? might abrowser be a noname firefox?
[21:48] <hackel> Caduceus, sorry, I need more details.  Actually I haven't used ndiswrapper in quite a long time so I'm not sure.  Hopefully someone else here can help you.
[21:48] <Jimi__Hendrix> 8.10...yes
[21:48] <gnutron> benbloom: kbrosnan> benbloom_: if your firefox is not remembering its size then firefox's localstore.rdf file may be corrupt.  with firefox closed it will be in a subfolder of  ~/.mozilla
[21:48] <ghaleb> guys, how can I make gnome menus transparent like this image http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=74813&file1=74813-1.jpg&file2=74813-2.jpg&file3=74813-3.jpg&name=Overglossed ?
[21:49] <nubuntu> how can I configure internet sharing across two NICs without using firestarter
[21:49] <dva5912> Ok i just lost my X screen. I cant get back into linux. And honestly i dont realy want to so my question how do i remove Grub and put Windows Boot managet back in its place?
[21:49] <Slart> !ics | nubuntu
[21:49] <Phase> Slart, Maybe, but the real reason I want to know is, I want another browser (or at least another firefox) with completely different path directories so one will not  interfere with the other (profiles/addons/saved passwords/cookies all different)
[21:49] <Halitech> dva5912, boot from your windows install cd, go into recovery and restore the windows boot manager
[21:49] <Slart> nubuntu: basically you create a couple of iptables rules.. perhaps install a dhcp server and you're done
[21:49] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : ...you might be able to get it to work by installing hardy first, using envyNG, then upgrading to intrepid, but i'm not sure... sorry, i'm at a loss here :/
[21:50] <dva5912> Halitech: Un able to. This is an OEM machine. I have no Vista disk. Unless you know where to get one
[21:50] <Slart> Phase: ah.. I have no idea how abrowser does that.. it doesn't have some kind of site?
[21:50] <benbloom_> ok-- trying this again! something seems to be messed up with my computer
[21:50] <Halitech> dva5912, any option to create disks from within windows?
[21:50] <Phase> I dunno yet, this was my first stop in trying to figure out what exactly abrowser does :P
[21:51] <dva5912> Halitech: Not to my knowledge unless you know of a way with Gateway
[21:51] <Halitech> dva5912, sorry, can't say I do, never had one
[21:51] <Max101> hi guys
[21:51] <Max101> i need some help
[21:51] <Phase> Slart, It looks like it just removes the Mozilla branding and adds it's own.. to the existing firefox-3.0 install.
[21:51] <Halitech> dva5912, maybe google gateway (your model) and create install cd
[21:52] <Max101> i installed Mint and everything works fine except my sound, i dont have sound
[21:52] <Flannel> !mintsupport | Max101
[21:52] <LjL> Max101: this is not the Mint channel
[21:52] <Max101> thanks
[21:52] <dva5912> Halitech: i think ive found a website that has the vista boot disk on it at 120 mb.... wierd. Im DOwnloading.
[21:52] <Caduceus> Thanks for your time anyways, hackel.
[21:53] <Caduceus> Anyone here who uses  ndiswrapper and can help me?
[21:53] <Halitech> dva5912, an install cd/dvd should be much bigger then that for vista, maybe look into super grub boot disk
[21:53] <Vhghost> Xchat not recieving dcc transferes / shows up in transferes window but does not start .. any ideas ?
[21:53] <Jimi__Hendrix> anywhere else i can go?
[21:53] <dva5912> Halitech: the site says its just a restore cd
[21:53] <Jimi__Hendrix> ill post on the forums but any other irc's are good
[21:55] <Halitech> dva5912, hmmmm maybe but I don't know
[21:55] <Caduceus> Hey, is there anyone here who uses ndiswrapper?
[21:55] <krish> what's the command to remove a software from ubuntu server?
[21:55] <Halitech> sudo apt-get remove name_of_program
[21:55] <fosco_> krish: sudo apt-get remove program
[21:56] <sjbrown> Caduceus, i'm trying to use it
[21:56] <sjbrown> failing
[21:56] <gnutron> krish: apt-get autoremove package-name
[21:56] <ring> g
[21:56] <gnutron> krish: remove also works :)
[21:57] <obi_> can anyone tell me anything about how to set up dual monitors in intrepid. i can sort of do it through screen resolution but its not very good. i would prefer just to do it with a gui rather than editing xconfig
[21:57] <Ketzusaka> If apt-get can't verify the public key does it still look in the respository for the package?
[21:57] <fosco_> yes
[21:57] <sproingie> is there a tortoiseCVS equivalent or similar for nautilus?
[21:57] <fosco_> but it will warn you
[21:57] <sproingie> or, daring to stray offtopic a little, for kde?
[21:58] <jzitt> I'm trying to iterate through a test file with a bash for loop. I want it to handle the file a line at a time, but it's breaking it into individual words. Is there a way to get it to handle it a line at a time?
[21:58] <Halitech> sjbrown, what do you get for a failure message?
[21:59] <Max101> what was the server/channel for linux mint support again?
[21:59] <sjbrown> Halitech, no failure message.  everything says it works, but i don't see any wifi networks
[21:59] <eseven73> sproingie: emacs has cvs capabilities have you tried it? if you want the very newest one 'sudo apt-get install emacs-snapshot'
[21:59] <robd> Hi guys!
[21:59] <tonyyarusso> I'm having a bit of a DNS issue.  'ping <machinename>.local' works fine, but just 'ping <machinename>' gives "unknown host".  How can I make both work?  (I already have "search local" in /etc/resolv.conf.)
[21:59] <Ketzusaka> fosco_: doesn't seem to be working. After adding a source, then updating it, and running apt-get install libapache2-mod-passenger it says it can't find the package
[22:00] <jzitt> I doing, for example ... for i in `cat myfile` ; do ; echo "foo $i done" ; done
[22:00] <sproingie> eseven73: i like emacs's cvs capabilities, i use 'em all the time.  i'm looking for file browser integration
[22:00] <robd> Has anyone installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a Windows Hyper-V server?
[22:00] <Ketzusaka> http://www.modrails.com/install.html following instructions on that
[22:00] <rose> Hey People! Since I updated to Ubuntu 8.4, nautilus does not work with ftp:// directories anymore. Any idea?
[22:00] <sproingie> eseven73: dired isn't my idea there :)
[22:00] <gnutron> Ketzusaka: yes it will but it should warn you before installing
[22:00] <Caduceus> im having problems with my wireless USB adapter.
[22:00] <robd> Just curious if there's any tweaking I need to do or if I can just load up the install cd and be good to go.
[22:00] <Halitech> sjbrown, what is the output of sudo iwconfig?
[22:00] <eseven73> sproingie: ah gotcha
[22:00] <fosco_> Ketzusaka: try sudo aptitude search libapache2
[22:00] <Max101> where do i go for linux mint support?
[22:00] <tonyyarusso> rose: as in just typing it in directly, or using the "Connect to Server" dialogue?
[22:00] <tonyyarusso> Max101: check their web site.
[22:01] <Daniel_NL> oy
[22:01] <Max101> i tried, no use. i need an irc
[22:01] <eseven73> sproingie: kdesvn is cool
[22:01] <sjbrown> Halitech, i'll pastebin it
[22:01] <Halitech> Max101, #linuxmint on irc.spotchat.org
[22:01] <Caduceus> I've downloaded ndiswrapper and need some help.
[22:01] <rose> tonyyarusso: typing directly.
[22:01] <sproingie> kde's got cervseia but i never liked it that much.
[22:01] <Max101> thanks Halitech
[22:01] <Ketzusaka> fosco_: isn't on there.
[22:01] <sproingie> eseven73: sadly i'm stuck with cvs in this particular case
[22:01] <pulsewave> how can i tell if im running ubuntu 32bit or 64bit?
[22:01] <Ketzusaka> fosco_: But the update command sees it
[22:01] <Slart> pulsewave: uname -a
[22:01] <tonyyarusso> Max101: They list their IRC channel on their web site...
[22:01] <tonyyarusso> rose: try the other and see if that works first.
[22:01] <pulsewave> i686 = 64bit?
[22:01] <robd> Has anyone here installed Ubuntu as a guest OS under Hyper-V?
[22:01] <gnutron> pulsewave: in a terminal type uname -m
[22:02] <klync> pulsewave: i686 = pentium
[22:02] <fosco_> pulsewave: no, 32bit
[22:02] <Halitech> pulsewave, i686 is 32bit
[22:02] <Slart> pulsewave: it will either say i686 or x86_64  or similar
[22:02] <rose> tonyyarusso: i dont see a "connect to server" thingy in the menu.
[22:02] <tonyyarusso> rose: under Places
[22:02] <sproingie> robd: googling the two relevant words pulls up all kinds of hits
[22:03] <robd> sproingie: I didn't find anything specific for 8.10... Just thought I'd ask here
[22:03] <nbeebo> nothing sucks more than firefox's flash, why dont they fix it? thinking about chaning to windows again dammit
[22:03] <rose> tonyyarusso: nothing works anymore. it always says stuff like "nautilus cannot handle ftp: places" and "nautilus cannot handle network: places" etc.
[22:03] <sproingie> robd: i imagine the same applies
[22:03] <Phase> Slart, I'm taking the cheapshot route, booting my laptop for what I want to do :P
[22:03] <Slart> nbeebo: write an email to adobe.. let them know how you feel
[22:03] <sproingie> robd: looks like some caveats around network interfaces, but otherwise goes smooth
[22:03] <pulsewave> Ok, I'm running 32bit, i have a Duo should i be running 64bit?
[22:04] <Ketzusaka> fosco_: Shoud i pastebin the update ?
[22:04] <sproingie> if you don't know if you need 64 bit you probably don't
[22:04] <Slart> Phase: hehe... at least it works.. I hope =)
[22:04] <fosco_> Ketzusaka: ok
[22:04] <h00k> I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with the Dell's latest BIOS A12 and its effect on the touchpad
[22:04] <tonyyarusso> rose: hrm...I've never seen that.  Not sure.
[22:04] <Slart> pulsewave: not unless you have 4GB or more memory
[22:04] <pulsewave> Ketzusaka: trying to learn
[22:04] <pulsewave> nope only 2 gig
[22:04] <kbrosnan> nbeebo: Mozilla firefox has little relation to the quality of Adobe's Flash player
[22:04] <obi_> does anyone know of a frontend for dual monitors
[22:04] <pyrak> command to list attached storage devices?
[22:04] <pyrak> need to know the arg to umount
[22:04] <sjbrown> Halitech, http://code.bulix.org/3jtj09-69211?raw
[22:04] <nbeebo> ok, linux sucks then
[22:04] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: df -h
[22:05] <sproingie> if you have less than 4G RAM, you won't get immediate benefit from 64 bit.  it's just a tiny bit faster in some areas, but you unfortunately lose more to pointer bloat and poor architecture ports
[22:05] <tonyyarusso> nbeebo: ...  Linux also has nothing to do with flash.  It's Adobe's fault.
[22:05] <pulsewave> thank you sproingie
[22:05] <ikonia> nbeebo: none of this is anything to do with linux or ubuntu, so use the proper support resources
[22:05] <Torne> i have my rootfs on LVM, and I just converted it to a mirrored LV. The initramfs now fails to mount the root :(
[22:05] <ikonia> nbeebo: this is for ubuntu related support only
[22:05] <nbeebo> its still all thier fault
[22:05] <Slart> nbeebo: not really something we can do something about here.. if you just want to rant and let off some steam I recommend #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:05] <myk_robinson> hey guys. Any words of wisdom to speed up USB transfer in 8.10?
[22:05] <nbeebo> ok i see
[22:05] <pyrak> tonyyarusso, is at that only mounted drives?
[22:05] <Torne> dm_mirror is loaded, and it finds the mirror compoents.. any ideas why? :)
[22:05] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: yes
[22:05] <ikonia> Torne: how did you use a mirrored LV as lvm doesn't have mirror-view
[22:05] <Halitech> sjbrown, ok, you have a good connection, its just not associated yet
[22:05] <Ketzusaka> http://pastebin.ca/1282028
[22:05] <Torne> ikonia: yes it does
[22:06] <ikonia> Torne: ahhh dm-mirror
[22:06] <ikonia> Torne: just saw your next post
[22:06] <Torne> ikonia: lvconvert -m1 /dev/mapper/whatever :)
[22:06] <Torne> but yeah, now it doesn't boot
[22:06] <h00k> nbeebo, Yeah, that's definitely Adobes fault for lack of support.  Please let them know how you feel.
[22:06] <Torne> it creates the dm node for the LV, but doesn't add a table to it
[22:06] <Torne> so it can't be mounted
[22:06] <pyrak> tonyyarusso, i need to find the location of a drive that isn't mounted yet
[22:07] <pyrak> so that i can mount it
[22:07] <sjbrown> Halitech, i'm not sure what that means.  so the driver is loaded.  i'm confident of that
[22:07] <iBrick> can i set up dual-booting after i've finished installing both vista and ubuntu?
[22:07] <ikonia> Torne: what about if you break the mirror, does it boot then
[22:07] <ikonia> iBrick: yup
[22:07] <ikonia> iBrick: easier to install vista first, then ubuntu
[22:07] <Torne> ikonia: can't unless i boot into a livecd or similar :)
[22:07] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: Best way is probably 'ls /dev/sd*', and figure out which one isn't mounted yet by comparing to the previous list then.
[22:07] <sjbrown> but i don't think it's doing the right thing with my hardware, or else it is not displaying the networks i know to exist around me
[22:07] <Torne> ikonia: initramfs has no useful tools in it, of course :)
[22:07] <Ketzusaka>  hmm
[22:07] <ikonia> Torne: of couse.....
[22:07] <nbeebo> h00k, last comment about this on #ubuntu, linux should work harder to fix it, in every way, its not linux's fault wine doesnt work, its windows... well k thanks bye
[22:07] <Ketzusaka> Seems like it's not finding the package propery >.>
[22:07] <jabop> recon61: I was using thunderbird, which did it successfully. for example, when I read mail in evolution, my iphone still displays it as unread. it's very annoying.
[22:07] <jabop> oops, sorry about that
[22:07] <jabop> ignore :P
[22:07] <ikonia> Torne: pondering now.......
[22:08] <ikonia> Torne: what actual error is it giving on boot
[22:08] <marceldv> Is dkms installed by default in ubuntu intrepid?
[22:08] <iBrick> and i need to use grep?  is that correct?
[22:08] <Halitech> sjbrown, yes, driver is loaded, try sudo iwconfig scan
[22:08] <iBrick> -dual booting
[22:08] <ikonia> iBrick: no
[22:08] <ikonia> iBrick: grep is nothing to do with dual booting
[22:08] <sproingie> when wine discovers what proper release engineering is about in its free versions, then linux distros might be able to do something about it
[22:08] <tonyyarusso> marceldv: I believe yes, but wouldn't totallly swear to it.
[22:08] <Torne> ikonia: device-mapper: table: 254:3: mirror: Error creating mirror dirty log
[22:08] <Ketzusaka> is there a way to view the packages available from a single source?
[22:08] <ikonia> iBrick: install vista, then ubuntu it should do it all for you
[22:09] <Torne> ikonia: is the error that prevents the table from being installed for the lv
[22:09] <ikonia> Torne: I'm following, interesting
[22:09] <Wickk> for me to upgrade to Ibex from hardy would I have to back up everything and just reinstall all my programs or can I just upgrade and leave all my files on my hardrive?
[22:09] <Halitech> sjbrown, sorry, sudo iwlist scan
[22:09] <marceldv> I actually need to be sure :) ... Probably found a bug in the apt system..
[22:09] <ikonia> Torne: so the mirroring is breaking it, no need to break the mirror then
[22:09] <Torne> ikonia: 254:3 is the node for the real LV
[22:09] <ikonia> Torne: yup, make sense,
[22:09] <Torne> it happily mapped 0-2, which are the two halves of hte mirror and hte disklog
[22:09] <ikonia> marceldv: what's the issue
[22:09] <Halitech> Wicked, yes but I'd back up just to bed saef
[22:09] <ikonia> Torne: so it mapped the two individual disks, but not the mirror node
[22:10] <sjbrown> Halitech, hm.  that shows the networks
[22:10] <Torne> ikonia: and the log LV as well, yeah
[22:10] <iBrick> ikonia: what do you mean?  sorry, linux newbie here
[22:10] <sjbrown> but i don't see them in the Gnome network tool
[22:10] <tonyyarusso> Wickk: you should be able to just upgrade, but it is recommended to make backups of course.
[22:10] <ikonia> iBrick: install vista, then install ubuntu, dual booting should be setup automaticlly for you
[22:10] <Torne> ikonia: unfortunately google mostly returns references to the dm source code :)
[22:10] <Wickk> K thanks, wasn't sure
[22:10] <ikonia> Torne: how useful
[22:10] <Torne> ikonia: for that error
[22:10] <Lasivian> sigh
[22:10] <Lasivian> I hate it when I try to fix something and screw up something else that was working
[22:10]  * Lasivian reinstalls Ubuntu, again
[22:10] <ikonia> Torne: is there a udev rule assinged for mirrored devices
[22:11] <Halitech> sjbrown, ok, good sign, now we just need to connect to it
[22:11] <ikonia> Torne: I'm just thinking what could cause the situation
[22:11] <marceldv> ikonia: Ok.. After I deinstalled VirtualBox (from the virtualbox repo's). dkms appeared in the 'obsolete' filter. Meaning it has been installed by VirtualBox.
[22:11] <iBrick> heh... how do i get both OS's up and running at the same time?
[22:11] <ikonia> iBrick: you don't
[22:11] <ikonia> iBrick: thats not dual boot
[22:11] <ikonia> iBrick: you boot one or the other
[22:11] <Torne> ikonia: mirrors are identical to any other dm device to udev, afaik
[22:11] <pyrak> how do i ask whether or not a volume is mounted?
[22:11] <Torne> ikonia: it's not the device node that's broken, but the dm table itself
[22:11] <ikonia> Torne: I would expect so, thinking out loud
[22:11] <h00k> iBrick, you could one inside the other with virtualization like Virtualbox
[22:12] <Torne> ikonia: dmsetup shows the node as having no table
[22:12] <ikonia> Torne: yes, but what would cause the table to not be created
[22:12] <Torne> well, that error did, i assume
[22:12] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: see if it's in the output of 'mount' / etc/mtab.
[22:12] <Torne> since ht next line is ioctl: error adding target to table
[22:12] <Torne> :)
[22:12] <iBrick> h00k: are there any limitations there?
[22:13] <marceldv> ikonia: Ok.. After I deinstalled VirtualBox (from the virtualbox repo's). dkms appeared in the 'obsolete' filter. Meaning it has been installed by VirtualBox.
[22:13] <sjbrown> Halitech, i await your wisdom
[22:13] <marceldv> ikonia: I mean the 'auto removable' status
[22:13] <ikonia> marceldv: does virtualbox depend on dkms ?
[22:13] <h00k> iBrick, well, it depends on your amount of system memory, etc that you allocate to the guest operating system
[22:13] <marceldv> ikonia: I believe so.. let me check
[22:13] <Halitech> sjbrown, do you have a network manager up by your clock?
[22:14] <iBrick> i wouldn't need much to just run an ssh daemon would I?
[22:14] <sjbrown> i can add one maybe...
[22:14] <ikonia> Torne: just looking at my box now to see what would/could cause that senario and there is nothing obvious
[22:14] <marceldv> ikonia: virtualbox 'recommends' dkms
[22:14] <keystr0k> is there a way to get instant rss feed notifications if there is a new post/feed entry?
[22:14] <sjbrown> nm-applet
[22:14] <ikonia> marceldv: apologies, but I'm not seeing the problem, you've installed virtual box, it's pulled down a dependency, you've removed virtual box,whats teh issue
[22:15] <rafting> How can I turn off the encryption of my wireless network so anyone can sign on? I cant possibly do that from Ubuntu if I cant get on to the netwrok in the firsrt place right because then what would be then point at all?
[22:15] <Lasivian> any idea why cheese would suddenly show no resolution options?
[22:15] <sjbrown> huh.  now it's showing up in there
[22:15] <h00k> rafting, reset the router would work
[22:15] <Slart> rafting: do you have some kind of wireless router?
[22:15] <rafting> Slart: yes
[22:15] <Slart> rafting: can't you connect to it using the wired connection?
[22:15] <Halitech> sjbrown, yes, that should work
[22:16] <lucax> i cant install kubuntu-kde4-desktop thisis what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/83728/
[22:16] <sjbrown> but it doesn't show up in the "Network Settings" dialog
[22:16] <veritos> Is there a way to mark a package as automatically installed (for autoremove purposes) at install time? Similar to "emerge --oneshot" in Gentoo.
[22:16] <marceldv> ikonia: Well i thought dkms would be install by default on ubuntu intrepid install.
[22:16] <sjbrown> the one from System->Administration->Network
[22:16] <ikonia> marceldv: it's not a dependency so it won't
[22:16] <rafting> Slart: the wired is setup differently it was a huge pain in the ass to get it working in the first place
[22:16] <Halitech> sjbrown, if you click on it, do you get an option to connect to wireless networks?
[22:16] <nate> anybody know whats up with us.archive.ubuntu.com ? I'm getting 404 errors on feisty/main, feisty/restricted, feisty/universe and feisty/multiverse
[22:16] <Lasivian> or how do I reload a driver for a device that's not detecting right?
[22:16] <Torne> ikonia: guess i will just have to mess with it. thanks for trying, though
[22:16] <ikonia> Torne: still playing here
[22:16] <Slart> rafting: then you need to read the manual for the router.. or temporarily use some other computer that *can* connect to the wireless network
[22:16] <ikonia> Torne: I've just done a none-root file system and it worked
[22:17] <Torne> yeah i've done this exact conversino thign before
[22:17] <Torne> on debian
[22:17] <sjbrown> Halitech, yes.  i just tried to connect to my intended one.  it's spinning...
[22:17] <marceldv> ikonia: Ok,, thanks anyway :)
[22:17] <Torne> on the rootfs even. and that worked :)
[22:17] <sjbrown> now it's showing 4 bars
[22:17] <Halitech> nate fiesty is I think not supported any longer so the repo is changed
[22:17] <Torne> so either it's some freak accident, or the different kernel/initramfs is a problem
[22:17] <rafting> Slart: ok im dumb im using vista now, so how can i change the authoirty? and to what?
[22:17] <Halitech> sjbrown, ok, you should be connected then
[22:17] <Slart> rafting: that would depend entirely on your router..
[22:17] <Slart> rafting: usually is has some kind of web interface where you can change stuff
[22:18] <Ketzusaka> What does "c" mean in aptitude search [term] ? (I see p for package, i for installed, but not sure what c is?)
[22:18] <sjbrown> Halitech, ok.  nice. thanks.  but why is Network Settings still empty?
[22:18] <Bsims> I just discovered a usefull trick df -h shows free space in real gigs and df -H shows them in marketing gigs
[22:18] <Torne> Ketzusaka: it's the package status. p is purged, as in not installed at all
[22:18] <Ketzusaka> ah
[22:18] <Bsims> Ketzusaka: configured?
[22:18] <ikonia> Bsims: thats well known and documented
[22:18] <Torne> Ketzusaka: c is config-files-only. ie the package has been removed but the config not deleted
[22:19] <Ketzusaka> Bsims: Not sure
[22:19] <Ketzusaka> torne: ah okie
[22:19] <Bsims> ikonia: I know it is but it still bit me when I installed my new HD
[22:19] <Torne> Ketzusaka: if you want them gone too, apt-get --purge remove foo
[22:19] <Halitech> sjbrown, no idea
[22:19] <redrebel> how come openoffice 3.0 is not available through apt?
[22:19] <aLeSD> hi all
[22:19] <scottpledger> does anyone here know why when firefox has focus, flash is extremely choppy, but when another window has the focus, it works just fine?
[22:19] <Bsims> redrebel: too new
[22:19] <Halitech> nate, change your sources.list to be like this http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[22:19] <aLeSD> do u know a good audio converter ?
[22:19] <Ketzusaka> this is weird =[
[22:19] <aLeSD> i mean a gui
[22:19] <pyrak> i need someone to hold my hand through the process of installing a new hard drive on a command-line machine
[22:19] <Halitech> aLeSD,  audacity
[22:19] <Slart> redrebel: something about it not being good enough..
[22:20] <redrebel> anyone here using oo3?
[22:20] <pyrak> physically, the drive is installed
[22:20] <Bsims> pyrak: ever use parted?
[22:20] <rafting> so if i change to no authentification I could perhas log on from ubuntu?
[22:20] <ikonia> pyrak: there is nothing to hold your hand with
[22:20] <Slart> redrebel: there's probably a ton of posts about it in the forum
[22:20] <ikonia> pyrak: just plug the disk in, and put a file system on it
[22:20] <aLeSD> Halitech thanks
[22:20] <ikonia> Bsims: he's on a non-gui machine
[22:20] <pyrak> Bsims, gparted, yes, normal parted, no
[22:20] <Halitech> aLeSD, no problem
[22:20] <Slart> rafting: sounds reasonable
[22:20] <Bsims> ikonia: parted is the non gui portion
[22:20] <Bsims> pyrak: man parted
[22:20] <ikonia> Bsims: apologies thought you said gparted
[22:20] <pyrak> well first i need to figure out which /dev/hda# it is
[22:20] <Halitech> pyrak, do you mean physically installing or adding to fstab?
[22:20] <Ketzusaka> I have two ubuntus. My local one and one on a server. I added the passenger suorce a while back on this one through synaptic, and I see libapache2-mod-passenger just fine. But on the server, after adding it in /etc/apt/sources.list and running apt-get update it's not found anywhere =[
[22:20] <ikonia> pyrak: how many disks do you have
[22:20] <nate> that fixed it. thank you Halitech, I didn't realize 7.04 was EOL already.
[22:21] <Bsims> pyrak: is it the second drive?
[22:21] <agustin> hell any can help my with 5.1 audigy congif for ubuntu?
[22:21] <n2diy> My DSL access has been down for hours, how is it I can chat here?
[22:21] <Halitech> nate, yeah, back in october
[22:21] <pyrak> i have one usb disk, one ide, and one sata2
[22:21] <rafting> Slart: but what should I then set it to? because now i have wpa-personal and I give the correct key and cant log on.
[22:21] <pyrak> the ide is master, and the OS is running off of it
[22:21] <Bsims> pyrak: the primary drive will be /dev/sda, the second will be /dev/sdb
[22:21] <ikonia> pyrak: your new one would be /dev/sd*
[22:21] <Halitech> pyrak, sudo fdisk -l
[22:21] <pyrak> the usb disk is unmounted, so i guess i'll just unplug it now to simplify things
[22:21] <ikonia> pyrak: probably sdb, but your ide one will change potentially
[22:21] <mphill> pyrak: you can type dmesg | grep -i sd or you can run bklid
[22:21] <Lasivian> ok, I screwed up a device and it's not being detected anymore, can someone point me towards how to fix this without reinstalling? :/
[22:21] <agustin> hell any can help my with 5.1 audigy congif for ubuntu????
[22:22] <exodus_ms> !sound > agustin
[22:22] <Bsims> pyrak: Yeah what Halitech said... sudo fdisk -l to list known drives
[22:22] <Slart> rafting: I'm horrible with wireless and all it's encryptions.. you'll be better off asking the channel for wireless advice
[22:22] <scottpledger> so nobody knows about flash?
[22:22] <ikonia> scottpledger: what's up
[22:22] <mphill> pyrak: blkid will get you the UUID which is the prefered method of mounting these days.
[22:22] <scottpledger> flash is extremely choppy when firefox has the focus
[22:22] <Halitech> scottpledger, the flash? I know he's a hero in the comic book world :D
[22:22] <scottpledger> but its just fine when any other window has focus
[22:23] <Bsims> pyrak: is the new drive much larger than the others?
[22:23] <ikonia> scottpledger: its a closed source product, it reacts different on different machines, websites, etc
[22:23] <pyrak> Bsims, yes
[22:23] <exodus_ms> agustin, also look here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[22:23] <scottpledger> its incredibly annoying
[22:23] <kbrosnan> scottpledger: do you use any extensions, e.g. adblock or firebug?
[22:23]  * Lasivian guesses not
[22:23] <AlexOnRuby> where i can find the last.fm player for ubuntu ?
[22:23] <Bsims> pyrak: try running di and see if its already mounted
[22:23] <scottpledger> not that i know of, but i can check real quick
[22:24] <h00k> AlexOnRuby, the last.fm has the .deb on their site
[22:24] <marceldv> AlexOnRuby; banshee has last.fm plugin build in.
[22:24] <Aquina> I followed there instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-631711.html unfortunately they don't work. Can someone help me please?
[22:24] <mphill> AlexOnRuby: there is a pluging for rhythmbox
[22:24] <scottpledger> nope
[22:24] <scottpledger> i'm not
[22:24] <kbrosnan> scottpledger: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Safe+Mode can disable all your extensions to check if that is the problem
[22:24] <Aquina> You can pm me whenever you want to!
[22:24] <schnauzer> How does one enable boot logging in Intrepid
[22:24] <n2diy> My DSL access has been down for hours, how is it I can chat here?
[22:24] <lucax> how do i repair broken packages?
[22:25] <marceldv> scottpledger: Are you runnen ubuntu 32 or 64 bit?
[22:25] <Aquina> schnauzer, try the bootlog package
[22:25] <ikonia> n2diy: it's not down
[22:25] <Halitech> n2diy, are you sure its down?
[22:25] <gnutron> agustin: read this whole page, looks promising: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261317
[22:25] <Lasivian> n2diy, try going to <IP_ADDRESS> in a browser
[22:25] <scottpledger> still does it in safe mode.
[22:26] <marceldv> scottpledger: Are you runnen ubuntu 32 or 64 bit?
[22:26] <Halitech> n2diy, how do you know you are really here, maybe you are imaging things ;)
[22:26] <schnauzer> Aquina: Couldn't find any package matching "bootlog".  However, the following
[22:26] <schnauzer> packages contain "bootlog" in their description: gfxboot"
[22:26] <scottpledger> 32
[22:26] <gam3r111> can someone help me setup animations for compiz?
[22:26] <n2diy> Ikonia, Halitech , yes, I'm waiting for tech. support to call me back with the fix! I'm getting authentifcation errors logging in.
[22:26] <schnauzer> I'll install that one, then
[22:26] <pyrak> so i have my fdisk output
[22:26] <ikonia> n2diy: its working
[22:26] <pyrak> anyone wanna take it via pm?
[22:26] <Aquina> wait a minute, schnauter...
[22:26] <ikonia> pyrak: use the pastebin
[22:26] <gam3r111> can someone help me setup animations for compiz?
[22:26] <scottpledger> it does it on 64 too, but i figured that that was just because adobe doesn't release 64 bit flash binaries.
[22:26] <pyrak> ikonia, k
[22:26] <Slart> !ccsm | gam3r111
[22:26] <h00k> !pastebin | pyrak
[22:26] <schnauzer> Aquina: ok..
[22:27] <n2diy> iBrick, any idea why Firefox wouldn't be authenticating correctly?
[22:27] <Halitech> n2diy, well if you are in here then you are online so whatever 'fix' the tech is calling you with is well, whatever
[22:27] <pyrak> http://pastebin.com/m34773000
[22:27] <marceldv> scottpledger: Adobe has an alpha for flash 64bit .. Works great
[22:27] <gam3r111> slart i accidentally deleted everything in the ani,ations
[22:27] <gam3r111> **animations
[22:27] <scottpledger> ok, i'll download that on my desktop, but at the moment i'm on my laptop (32 bit)
[22:27] <gam3r111> can someone help me setup animations for compiz?
[22:27] <Lasivian> is there a command to force a package to reinstall itself and all deps?
[22:27] <Aquina> Well it was bootchart, schnauzer. ;-)
[22:28] <ikonia> Lasivian: synaptic has a re-install option
[22:28] <gnutron> Lasivian: synaptic will do that.
[22:28] <Lasivian> ikonia, I know, but it does not reinstall deps
[22:28] <exodus_ms> !repeat | gam3r111
[22:28] <scottpledger> maybe i'll try the latest alpha for flash 32 bit.
[22:28] <marceldv> scottpledger: You can find it on labs.adobe.com ..
[22:28] <ExElNeT> how do i enable compiz for kde4.1?
[22:28] <Paw> Oh so here is where everyone is :-p
[22:28] <Halitech> Lasivian, sudo apt-get remove packagename && sudo apt-get install packagename
[22:28] <Slart> gam3r111: hmm.. not sure how to get the defaults back.. sorry.. perhaps ask in #compiz-fusion
[22:28] <lucax> ExElNeT, compiz --replace
[22:28] <agustin> im using pulse for 5.1 is that right?
[22:28] <ikonia> Lasivian: why do you want to re-install everything + deps
[22:28] <Lasivian> halitech: that does not forcibly reinstall dependencies tho, just that package
[22:29] <ikonia> Lasivian: it won't re-install deps as other things may depend on those dependencies
[22:29] <Lasivian> ikonia: because I have something very broken and i'm trying to fix it the only way I can think of
[22:29] <Halitech> Lasivian, try with the -f option
[22:29] <Paw> I know this is a stupid question, but can someone help me install ubuntu, tried and am having some troubles :/
[22:29] <gnutron> agustin: leave pulse alone, concentrate on alsa
[22:29] <ikonia> Lasivian: re-installing with no reason it not a good way to resolve something
[22:29] <Halitech> Lasivian, no, thats for fixing, I think its --force
[22:29] <h00k> !ask | paw
[22:29] <Lasivian> ikonia: well, it's that or reinstall at this point
[22:29] <shovi> SAVAGE 2??
[22:30] <ikonia> Lasivian: I'd advise against re-installing things blindly - but thats your call
[22:30] <Halitech> Lasivian, what are you having trouble with?
[22:30] <exodus_ms> Paw, what is the problem?
[22:30] <mphill> Lasivian: check out apt-rdepends
[22:30] <schnauzer> Aquina: I've already tried that package; what I want is to see an error message I get when usplash quits. It scrolls up before I can read it.
[22:30] <marceldv> scottpledger: You already upgraded to intrepid?
[22:30] <agustin> ohh and how i configurate alsa for my audigy???
[22:30] <Paw> Can someone help me install ubuntu, I have having ab uffer I/O error, and i chcked all the forums with no help :/.
[22:30] <agustin> where i select
[22:30] <Lasivian> ikonia: trying to get my webcam working has broken my video, and I can;t figure out how to re-detect/install that device
[22:30] <schnauzer> Seems Aquina left; Anyone else know?
[22:30] <ExElNeT> lucax: hmm this didnt work out? do you have a hint? http://nopaste.info/1146e22486.html
[22:30] <Halitech> Lasivian, what type of webcam?
[22:30] <mphill> Lasivian: what kernel module are you using?
[22:30] <gnutron> agustin: did you catch this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261317
[22:31] <ikonia> Lasivian: why do you need to re-detect it ? has the device file gone ?
[22:31] <agustin> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: No se pudo abrir el dispositivo de audio para reproducción
[22:31] <Roasted> Anybody have any experience with CloneZilla Live? I'm having a problem trying to make an image of a hard drive. I'm sure it's something simple I am overlooking but I can't get it to work and I'm on a strict time table with getting this to work for my job... Can anybody help?
[22:31] <agustin> that i get when i slect alsa
[22:31] <Lasivian> halitech: Acer Crystal Eye
[22:31] <marceldv> scottpledger: You already upgraded to intrepid?
[22:31] <Lasivian> mphill: no idea
[22:31] <pyrak> Halitech, ran fdisk, here's my output: http://pastebin.com/m34773000
[22:31] <gnutron> agustin: no idea who you're talking to.
[22:31] <lucax> ExElNeT, try searching in synaptic for some package called compizconfig-kde something like that...
[22:31] <Lasivian> ikonia: I don;t know, it's not displaying correctly anymore and I can;t change the resolution
[22:31] <nbeebo> anyone know a good site for guides on how to start a forum?
[22:31] <mphill> Lasivian: do 'lsusb' and paste it in a query
[22:31] <Paw> Having install issues with ubuntu, "Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block" Can anyone resolve?
[22:31] <ikonia> pyrak: your new disk is /dev/sda
[22:32] <Halitech> Lasivian, check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928467&highlight=Acer+Crystal+Eye
[22:32] <agustin> to you
[22:32] <pyrak> ikonia, so it looks like i only have one unmounted hard disk
[22:32] <h00k> Paw, is that booting from the CD?
[22:32] <ikonia> pyrak: errrrr no
[22:32] <pyrak> oh, which makes sense, because i forgot to plug the usb disk back in
[22:32] <Paw> h00k: yes
[22:32] <ikonia> pyrak: you have one disk that doens't have a partition table, the disk is 500gb in size, is that your new disk
[22:32] <h00k> Paw, check your CD, it might be defective
[22:32] <Lasivian> mphill: Suyin corp (it's on my other computer)
[22:32] <exodus_ms> agustin, type the persons nick and hit tab,
[22:33] <pyrak> ikonia, yes, that all sounds right
[22:33] <Paw> h00k: okay let me check, any ways to find out..
[22:33] <HideousNashimoto> hello
[22:33] <pyrak> next step: parted?
[22:33] <ikonia> pyrak: use a partition tool you chose to put a partition on it
[22:33] <h00k> Paw, yes, when you boot from it, there is an option after you select your language
[22:33] <mphill> Lasivian: type sudo modprobe -r gspca; sudo modprobe gspca
[22:33] <h00k> Paw, something like "Check this CD for defects"
[22:33] <HideousNashimoto> I have a folder with couple of other folders and files in it, I want to know how to change permissions so that I have all access to them, THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:33] <Paw> h00k, i tried that, and i get the same error.
[22:33] <exodus_ms> agustin, is your ubuntu install in English?
[22:33] <pyrak> ikonia, what tool do you recommend?
[22:33] <agustin> gnutron, i get this when i put alsa in my sound driver audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: No se pudo abrir el dispositivo de audio para reproducción
[22:33] <ikonia> pyrak: I use fdisk
[22:33] <Roasted> CloneZilla? Anybody?
[22:34] <agustin> exodus_ms, nop spanish
[22:34] <Paw> h00k: it starts to say the error again while checking for defects
[22:34] <Lasivian> halitech: yes, I saw that, but the solution just records to a file
[22:34] <Paw> Let me try again.
[22:34] <h00k> Paw, okay, it does sound like you need to either re-download the file, or re-burn the CD
[22:34] <ExElNeT> lucax: i installed the compiz-kde package
[22:34] <Lasivian> mphill: gspca not found
[22:34] <HideousNashimoto> I have a folder with couple of other folders and files in it, I want to know how to change permissions so that I have all access to them, THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:34] <Paw> h00k: I shall try both, and see what happens..
[22:34] <scottpledger> ok, i feel dumb -- the fix is to set the local storage to unlimited.
[22:34] <h00k> Paw, you can check the MD5 Hash against the original to verify your CD image is correct
[22:35] <exodus_ms> agustin, Are you comfortable with support in English or would you like a channel for Spanish?
[22:35] <ikonia> HideousNashimoto use the chmod command or launch nautlius with gksudo to use it as root
[22:35] <Halitech> Lasivian, whats the output of lsusb?
[22:35] <gnutron> agustin: no se habla espanol dude, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261317 work with alsa.
[22:35] <Paw> h00k: md5?
[22:35] <marceldv> scottpledger: Weird .. :)
[22:35] <h00k> !md5 | Paw
[22:35] <agustin> no problem dude with english support
[22:35] <Roasted> CLONEZILLA? ANYBODY?
[22:35] <pyrak> so, ikonia do i need to so anything fancy with DOS partition tables or anything like that?  or just add a partition and then format it?
[22:36] <exodus_ms> agustin, check that link gnutron posted
[22:36] <lucax> ExElNeT, that should do it
[22:36] <CarlFK> I have i386 ver loaded on a x64 box.  is there a way to upgrade to x64?
[22:36] <marceldv> Roasted:  Probably not. What's the problem?
[22:36] <Halitech> CarlFK, reinstall with 64 bit
[22:36] <Lasivian> Halitech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83737/
[22:37] <Izinucs> CarlFK: why bother with most programs running in a 32bit environ. unless you really want to compile most everything
[22:37] <ExElNeT> lucax: same error ;/
[22:37] <Halitech> Lasivian, was the webcam plugged in?
[22:37] <gnutron> agustin: have you installed alsamixer
[22:37] <marceldv> Roasted:  Probably not. What's the problem?
[22:37] <Lasivian> it's built into the notebook
[22:37] <Lasivian> Halitech, it's an Aspire One, built in
[22:38] <Halitech> Lasivian, doesnt look like its being seen, have you tried a reboot?
[22:38] <CarlFK> Izinucs: cuz I am running out of cpu doing live video encoding: check out my 5fps fish: http://giss.tv:8000/fsfs.ogg
[22:38] <Halitech> Lasivian, do you have Ubuntu on it or still running lipus?
[22:38] <lucax> ExElNeT, try logion out and backin kde some times does that... but u should check if u have all compiz kde packages installed
[22:38] <Lasivian> halitech: hang on, I wasen't ssh'd over there
[22:38] <f00fyf00f3rz> I don't knoew how dinosaurs roam
[22:39] <agustin> im using hardy and it detect my sound card like audigy ...(alsa mixer)
[22:39] <Slade605> Hey all, where is the password file kept?
[22:39] <Roasted> marceldv - I have a test computer here with a fresh installation of Windwos XP on it. The copy of XP is a work issued one. I'm trying to create an image of it for the 500 computers we're getting in next month. But when I try to creat an image, it says the drive needs to be unmounted... yet I'm following the directions picture by picture step by step on this ugide I found. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
[22:39] <agustin> thats all i know
[22:39] <agustin> in newbie with ubuntu
[22:39] <Lasivian> Halitech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83739/
[22:39] <Izinucs> CarlFK: link doesn't work.. but anyway.. not sure if it will help on 32bit in your situation but take a look at your swap space. You might need to increase it.
[22:39] <gnutron> agustin: whip open a terminal and type alsamixer
[22:39] <zwerver> someone knows what's happend here: i can't open files via firefox anymore, i have to download them. I think it's my /tmp, that has only 952KB free (but only 1.8 in use, although it says 'some contents unreadable'). any solutions?
[22:40] <agustin> yes i put that but it shows the sound driver of my ati 3850hd
[22:40] <Halitech> Lasivian, okay, it is being seen
[22:40] <marceldv> Roasted: You probably need to download the live cd from clonezilla. When the disks are mounted you can't make an image.
[22:41] <Lasivian> Halitech: Ekiga was working, Cheese displayed nothing, then Cheese showed a multi-color "tv" screen and no resolution, then my video flaked out
[22:41] <Roasted> marceldv - I did. I'm booted to the LiveCD right now on the test computer behind me. I get the same error each time.
[22:41] <Halitech> Lasivian, if you run cheese does it work or give you an error
[22:41] <Halitech> Lasivian, ok, not sure then
[22:41] <agustin> how did i change the alsamixer soundcard?
[22:41] <marceldv> Roasted: You're trying to make an image of the XP box right?
[22:41] <Lasivian> I think it was because Cheese needed to be version 2.25, but I couldn;t figure out how to install that from source
[22:41] <Roasted> Yes. I am, marceldv.
[22:41] <gnutron> agustin: type lspci  does it show your audigy card, we were talking audigy werent we?
[22:42] <agustin> gnutron,  yeap
[22:42] <marceldv> Roasted: And you're sure none of the disks is mounted?
[22:42] <gnutron> agustin: type lspci, yes it lists it?
[22:42] <Halitech> Lasivian, usually its download, extract, then ./configure,  make,  make install, might need to do them as sudo
[22:43] <Izinucs> Roasted: if clonezilla doesn't work for you .. take a look at partimage from the "rescue live cd"
[22:43] <Roasted> marceldv -I went to the command line and saw the disk was mounted. I used umount to unmount it, then I used a command to get back into the GUI. Then again it still didn't work.
[22:43] <Lasivian> Halitech, aye, but on this thre was no makefile
[22:43]  * Lasivian shrugs
[22:43] <Halitech> Lasivian, any readme file?
[22:43] <Lasivian> so I pretty much gave up and now I just want to get back to where I was before
[22:43] <Roasted> izinucs - I pretty much need to use clonezilla, though. It sems to have cloning speeds that are absolutely unreal, and I have 500 computers to deploy on my own. Speed will help me out so much.
[22:43] <gnutron> agustin: right click on your volume control, choose preferences, use the dropdown box and select the soundcard
[22:43] <f00fyf00f3rz> Where are owls indigenouss
[22:44] <Izinucs> Roasted: wow.. I've never compared the two for speed.. but if you've already looked so be it.. that's a lot of machines.
[22:44] <Roasted> besides, cl onezilla is based on partimage from what I've read...
[22:45] <agustin> gnutron,  Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[22:45] <marceldv> Roasted: Hang on.
[22:45] <Halitech> Roasted, any chance of doing a PXE boot and install?
[22:45] <f00fyf00f3rz> If my computer bloed up what are the chabces ill fly away
[22:45] <agustin> gnutron, Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3870 Audio device -- how i changed this
[22:45] <Lasivian> Halitech: yes, but not at any level I understadd
[22:45] <agustin> couse i cant select audigy here
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > f00fyf00f3rz
[22:45] <gnutron> agustin: cool, choose the SB then, again right click on volume, choose open volume controls
[22:45] <Roasted> halitech - oh yeah, I have a 10/100 netgear switch here with me. I just don't understand how I am getting the image in the first place. I just assumed I should boot to the liveCD on the main computer, grab the image, then go to the DRBL Server (CloneZilla Server) and deploy it across the network then.
[22:46] <gnutron> agustin: i didnt know ATI did audio, choose creative labs
[22:46] <Halitech> Lasivian, ok, not sure what else to tell you
[22:46] <Roasted> Out of all of the guides I've read with how to configure your CloneZilla SErver, I have yet to find one that tells me how I get the darn image in the first place. And on top of that, how to wire the thing up. Do the client computers and the server just go to the LAN ports? Does oneget plugged into the uplink? I just don't know and can't find any information on it.
[22:46] <agustin> my ati 3850hd have hdmi audio
[22:46] <cockn1gger>  my ati 3850hd have hdmi audio
[22:46] <Lasivian> halitech: so i'm guessing if the video doesn't redetect on reboot i'm screwed?
[22:46] <cockn1gger>  halitech: so i'm guessing if the video doesn't redetect on reboot i'm screwed?
[22:46] <Halitech> Roasted, not totaly sure but I think you just use an install cd
[22:47] <cockn1gger>  Roasted, not totaly sure but I think you just use an install cd
[22:47] <agustin> i choose audigy but when i put alsamixer in the terminal it shows ati
[22:47] <cockn1gger> sup guyz
[22:47] <cockn1gger>  i choose audigy but when i put alsamixer in the terminal it shows ati
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> I suggest you guys stop that
[22:47] <cockn1gger>  I suggest you guys stop that
[22:47] <gnutron> agustin: can you change it to creative labs audigy?
[22:47] <f00fyf00f3rz> Kick that guy out his tag is so offensive
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> done
[22:47] <gnutron> thx jack
[22:48] <f00fyf00f3rz> Thank you
[22:48] <Halitech> Lasivian, I would hazard a guess you are right
[22:48] <ruto> ciao a tutti
[22:48] <agustin> gnutron,  i dont know how
[22:48] <Halitech> Jack_Sparrow, thank you
[22:48] <Roasted> Halitech - Meaning what? What install CD? The Windows install CD? Where am I using it? You know what I mean, there's just so many places that aren't covered in these guides I read.
[22:48] <gnutron> agustin: just click the dropdown box and make the creative entry stick instead of ATI
[22:49] <Halitech> Roasted, from what I can remember of what I've read, when you are setting up your PXE server, you can specify where the image (or cd) is
[22:49] <marceldv> Roasted: Could you repeat the error message you're getting?
[22:49] <Lasivian> Halitech, thanks
[22:49] <albertico> hi guys... my numeric pad suddenly stopped working
[22:49] <albertico> seems like I pressed something wrong... any ideas?
[22:49] <Roasted> Marceldv - standby... I'll go through the process on my test PC behind me and type back to you in a minute when I get the message.
[22:49] <agustin> ─[AlsaMixer v1.0.16 (Press Escape to quit)]──────────────────┐
[22:49] <agustin> │ Card: HDA ATI HDMI                                                           │
[22:49] <agustin> │ Chip: Generic 1002 ATI R6xx HDMI                                             │
[22:49] <agustin> │ View: [Playback] Capture  All                                                │
[22:49] <agustin> │ Item: IEC958
[22:49] <FloodBot1> agustin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <marceldv> Roasted: K
[22:50] <marceldv> albertico: Try numlock
[22:50] <Roasted> marceldv - Error! No unmounted disks are found! To use Clonezilla to save or clone a disk, the source disk must be unmounted! Press enter to exit...
[22:50] <Jon5000> Let me try another question:  I have a dual boot setup with Vista, which is running out of space.  Ubuntu has a 16gb partition but is only using about 2gb now.  can someone advise me on a simple way to reduce ubuntu's partition by about 5gb and give it to windows?
[22:50] <gnutron> agustin: try this sudo apt-get install asoundconf-gtk
[22:50] <Roasted> Let's put it this way. HOW do I get an image "created" for an image server (clonezilla server)
[22:51] <Halitech> Roasted, what is the output of sudo mount?
[22:51] <albertico> marceldv, it doesn't have to do with the numlock
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Jon5000 use gparted, but I suggest you have a backup whenever you are working at the partition level
[22:51] <Roasted> Halitech - well, I have to log out of the gui and into terminal to type any commands...
[22:51] <Vhghost> Xchat-gnome not recieving dcc transferes / shows up in transferes window but does not start .. any ideas ?
[22:51] <Halitech> Roasted, why? just open a terminal
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Vhghost I dont think you are allowed to dcc in here
[22:51] <albertico> marceldv, I keep pressing it and typing but doesn't work
[22:51] <Roasted> Halitech - I'm booted to the LiveCD of CloneZilla. I'm not in Ubuntu.
[22:51] <gnutron> agustin: tell me if that worked, if so, try clicking system/preferences/default sound card in your menu.
[22:51] <Vhghost> not here but other chans
[22:52] <marceldv> Roasted: Try ctrl+alt+f1
[22:52] <Halitech> Roasted, no terminal option in the menu?
[22:52] <Roasted> marceldv - no go.
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Vhghost try #xchat or whatever client you are suing
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> using
[22:52] <Ketzu> Is there a way to see what packages are available on a repository?
[22:52] <Roasted> Halitech - No. Keep in mind, I'm working on two computers here. The one behind me is on the LiveCD for CloneZilla.
[22:52] <agustin> gnutron, ok wait a sec
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Ketzu synaptic
[22:52] <Halitech> Roasted, I know, pretty much ignoring the system you are on ;)
[22:52] <Roasted> Halitech - this is the KIND of screen I'm looking at. http://drbl.sourceforge.net/screenshot/?op=show&filepath=album//01_Clonezilla/09_ocs-sr-x.png
[22:53] <Ketzu> jack_sparrow: Without a gui
[22:53] <marceldv> Roasted: ctrl+alt+f2 neither?
[22:53] <Halitech> Roasted, ahhh, got ya now
[22:53] <Halitech> marceldv, think old school DOS installer window
[22:53] <Jon5000> jack_sparrow: thank you.  my main concern is that i will mess up the windows partition and make it unbootable.  key files are all saved elsewhere so i am ok there.  its just the OS i am afraid of losing
[22:54] <Halitech> Jon5000, it's only windows ;)
[22:54] <Roasted> ctrl alt F2 worked...
[22:54] <marceldv> Halitech: It's linux live cd.
[22:54] <Ketzu> Jack_Sparrow: That doesn't tell me how anyways...
[22:54] <gnutron> Ketzu: type 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' in a terminal, goto the http addresses and browse them.
[22:54] <Roasted> but the thing is, I dont know how to get the GUI back after I get to terminal besides restarting. I used to have the command for it but I dont know where I got it.
[22:54] <Halitech> marceldv, I know but it looks the same so wasn't sure if it would have multiple tty's
[22:54] <Ketzu> gnutron; That doesn't help either. I've done that. Packages are there. They aren't locally tough.
[22:54] <marceldv> Roasted: alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[22:55] <eseven73> if i install virtualbox-ose and since it has no usb support, will that mean my usb keyboard/mouse wont work ?
[22:55] <Jon5000> Halitech: easy for you to say you are not a newbie like me (probably), and you (probably ) have not completely failed at being able to share USB drives using samba with other windows computers...  Cant cut the windows chord just yet.
[22:55] <Roasted> marceldv - CTRL ALT F2 worked for terminal.
[22:55] <Ketzu> I'm trying to find out why =\
[22:55] <gnutron> Ketzu: try in a terminal, apt-cache search some-search-term
[22:55] <marceldv> Roasted: F1 should bring you back to the blue stuff
[22:55] <albertico> marceldv, I just fixed it... seems like some settings got changed on the System->Preference->Keyboard dialog
[22:56] <marceldv> albertico: Cool
[22:56] <Ketzu> gnutron: No results. What's really bothering me is it's working on one system but not another..
[22:56] <ruto> ciao
[22:56] <Halitech> Jon5000, I consider myself a newbie in a lot of things even though I've been using Linux for 3 years ... have you checked out the howto on samba?
[22:56] <gnutron> Ketzu: are your repositories enabled?
[22:56] <Ketzu> gnutron: Not sure =|
[22:56] <Roasted> Marceldv - I used the GUI to the very last step of CloneZilla, where I name the image I'm about to make. I went to terminal, unmounted, back to GUI, hit enter... same error.
[22:56] <Ketzu> gnutron: How would I do that without a gui?
[22:56] <ruto> hello
[22:57] <lastnode> hi i anna install ubuntu to a usb stickbut i dont think my bios can boot it atm. will something like openbios help me?
[22:57] <ruto> ma ci sn sl inglesi o anche italiani?
[22:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[22:57] <gnutron> Ketzu: whip open synaptic, its in the menu options somewhere, quite easy, check it out.
[22:57] <Jon5000> Halitech: yes.  in fact I have been able to share folders fine with samba.  I understand the samba.conf file now better than i ever expected i could.  its just the darn usb drive (which is fat32) that i cant seem to share.  I have asked about it here but no relief.
[22:58] <psudo> Hello i just installed ubunutu server on my server how ever i do not have gnome installed i got took to the command line i was wondering if some one could help me install the desktop
[22:58] <Ketzu> gnutron; I don't have synaptic.
[22:58] <j0hnnyX> Can someone direct me to a wiki that will tell me how to get Iced Tea working so that it won't display improperly
[22:58] <gnutron> Ketzu: oh, ok, insure no '#' pound signs precede the repo's you desire in sources.list
[22:58] <marceldv> Roasted: Where is the image written to?
[22:58] <eseven73> if i install virtualbox-ose and since it has no usb support, will that mean my usb keyboard/mouse wont work ?
[22:58] <Ketzu> gnutron: Doesn't
[22:58] <Roasted> marveldv - I have no idea, to be honest. I'm just following the tutorial I found. I was hoping to search the hard drive after I make the image so I can pull it off of the computer and save it.
[22:58] <Halitech> Jon5000, are you sharing a folder on the drive? might not work if you are trying to share the root of the drive
[22:59] <marceldv> eseven73: Will work
[22:59] <mikhailt> is ubuntu using /etc/network/interfaces as the conf for the interfaces? I can't seem to get it to be enabled even tho the network manager works fine after changing stuff, but modifying the interfaces file doesn't seem to change anything
[22:59] <gnutron> Ketzu: does apt-get update work?
[22:59] <marceldv> Roasted: Where the tutorial?
[22:59] <Roasted> http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/
[23:00] <ExElNeT> lucax: compiz still seg faults... /
[23:00] <Halitech> psudo, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:00] <j0hnnyX> This is the problem I'm getting
[23:00] <j0hnnyX> http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=javahd9.png
[23:00] <Jon5000> Halitech: I have tried to do both.  I am able to see the drive from the windows pc, but unable to access it (you do not have permission, or some such.)  I have messed around wih permissions and ownership, but the drive is fat32 so none of that has worked.
[23:00] <j0hnnyX> See how its not lined up
[23:00] <ExElNeT> brb
[23:01] <j0hnnyX> Does that with every java app
[23:01] <psudo> Halitech,  yes i found that on the fourm but do i also need to get x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome-desktop-environment
[23:01] <Halitech> Jon5000, chmod and chown to the user listed in samba doesn't work?
[23:01] <Ketzu> gnutron: Yes. Results: http://pastebin.ca/1282073
[23:01] <Ketzu> gnutron: It might be because I'm on a lts version
[23:01] <ExElNeT> re
[23:01] <Halitech> psudo ubuntu-desktop should pull everything
[23:01] <sdf> anybody can help me with a 64 bit MUL with x86 architect?
[23:01] <emo> can i set a different wallpaper for each desktop side? *i have 4 desktop spaces, and i want a different wallpaper for each*
[23:01] <psudo> Halitech,  okay that is installing now any configuring i gotta do or dose it do that for me
[23:02] <gnutron> Ketzu: that looks ok, what do you want to do again?
[23:02] <gnutron> Ketzu: browse stuff?
[23:02] <Ketzu> gnutron: I'm trying to install passenger. rubygems are being a pain so I'm trying to install it through the aptitude
[23:02] <marceldv> Roasted: When you choose local_dev on the first page. Does it ask which partition to load?
[23:02] <Halitech> psudo, shouldnt have to , either reboot when its done in stalling or run gdm and it should take you to the desktop
[23:02] <gnutron> Ketzu: aptitude should work, use sudo of course
[23:03] <Ketzu> The package I'm trying to install is libapache2-mod-passenger; I downlaoded the deb after running into the sources problem, and installed it, but then the .so file isn't being placed properly
[23:03] <Roasted> marceldv - It brings up SDA1 80.0GB NTFS... so I hit enter.
[23:03] <Ketzu> gnutron: I'm in a root environment
[23:03] <eseven73> whats the command to check kernel version?
[23:04] <scientes> /etc/localtime cannot be overwritten: Failed to create file '/etc/localtime.0B04LU': Read-only file system
[23:04] <marceldv> Roasted: There is your problem. You are trying to get the image of sda1 and writing it to sda1 .. Which can't be done. (I'm just guessing)
[23:04] <scientes> i cant change the timezone
[23:04] <j0hnnyX> Anyways Java seems to work though but could that just be a bug in iced tea?
[23:04] <mikhailt> eseven73: try uname -r
[23:04] <Sylphid|work> im having some issues with a directory in my home folder, .gvfs has permissions of d????????? and is taking up all of the space thats unused on my /home partition
[23:04] <j0hnnyX> There should be a way to center it no?
[23:04] <eseven73> mikhailt: thanks
[23:04] <psudo> Halitech,  Why dose server edition not come with a gui?
[23:04] <j0hnnyX> Cause when I go to chat in Java applets the text all shows up half chopped off
[23:04] <j0hnnyX> Just like that image in that link I posted
[23:05] <Sylphid|work> and i cant seem to delete it ... although i havent tried in run level 1
[23:05] <mikhailt> psudo: server are usually headless, thus never need GUI for it
[23:05] <lubosz> hi
[23:05] <Roasted> marceldv - maybe if I plug in my external hard drive and select that to save the image to??
[23:05] <gnutron> Ketzu: you need the development repo enabled, or deb src entry to get source files if i recall correctly.
[23:05] <Jon5000> Halitech: correct, chmod and chown did not work
[23:05] <scientes> why would /etc be a read only firesystem its not
[23:05] <marceldv> Roasted: That should work..
[23:05] <scientes> and there is space
[23:05] <lubosz> my apache forbids symlinks to be followed owned by me and the group www-data
[23:05] <marceldv> Roasted: Post back any results :)
[23:05] <lubosz> symlinks pointed to stuff owned by root are followed
[23:05] <lubosz> wtf
[23:05] <psudo> mikearr,  It should still come with an option on install :D
[23:05] <lubosz> isn't apache in the group www-data?
[23:05] <scientes> help
[23:05] <Ketzu> gnutron: shouldn't. It's a third-party repo. one sec
[23:06] <mikhailt> apache is www-ata yep
[23:06] <scientes>       /etc read-only filesystem ????
[23:06] <mikhailt> www-data
[23:06] <sdf> anybody can help me with a 64 bit MUL with x86 architect?
[23:06] <lubosz> so, why it forbids me the symlinks
[23:06] <Ketzu> gnutron: Upgrading to intreped fixed it
[23:06] <R0b0t1> For some reason when trying to update a program from a .deb, it says "Older version in software channel" and proceeds with the download, but the installed package is not the newer version :|
[23:06] <gnutron> Ketzu: i noticed the third party repo, that could pose problems.
[23:06] <Ketzu> gnutron: Software isn't in the regular hehe
[23:06] <lubosz> user:www-data 775 -> user:www-data Forbidden
[23:06] <Roasted> marceldv - Will do. Booting up now. :)
[23:06] <Halitech> Jon5000, not sure unless its the way its being mounted
[23:07] <lubosz> user:www-data 775 -> root:root works
[23:07] <gusto5> R0b0t1, uninstall previous first and then install new?
[23:07] <Roasted> marceldv - it makes sense that it would work like that because I tested this on ANOTHER spare PC I have that dual boots... and it worked then but that's because I was saving the image to another partition.
[23:07] <Halitech> psudo, because servers do not use gui's
[23:07] <R0b0t1> gusto5: That did not work.
[23:07] <Jon5000> Halitech: how do you mean the way its mounted.  I have unmounted and remounted it btw
[23:07] <gnutron> Ketzu: i hope my upgrade to intrepid goes well, i havent found the nerve just yet.
[23:07] <R0b0t1> gusto5: When I did that, the "older" version was reinstalled.
[23:07] <marceldv> Roasted: So true =)
[23:07] <scientes> ahh /dev/sda1 read-only wtf
[23:08] <gusto5> R0b0t1, what's the package for?
[23:08] <Ketzu> gnutron: This is on a slicehost, basically just an image extract haha
[23:08] <mikhailt> psudo: well, if you wanted GUI, you shouldve started with the regular ubuntu, servers are intended for sysadmins who know they never want GUi and just intend to run it headless
[23:08] <Halitech> Jon5000, I'm wondering if you are mounting it as your user or as root, maybe that is having a weird side effect on it
[23:08] <R0b0t1> gusto5: Free Pascal. "fpc" for apt-get, etc.
[23:08] <ataufik> dear all... what is the program should I use to as vpn client / dialer in Intrepid? currently vpnc package is already installed. The modem I use is Merlin U630 which not been detected by NM and therefore I have to connet to internet using manual wvdial...
[23:09] <mikhailt> lubosz: did you check if the <Directory> in the VirtualHost allow symlinks?
[23:09] <systm> im having trouble watching a DVD on ubuntu 8.10, what do i need to be sure i can play it
[23:09] <exodus_ms> !codecs
[23:09] <Jon5000> Halitech: hmmm.  this is getting out of my league.  But I do think that i unmounted and remounted to specifically correct this.  Now i dont recall whether the remount as user didnt take and the drive reverted to root or not.  i seem to recall that happening but have had to reinstall since then and am not 100% sure.
[23:09] <gusto5> R0b0t1, if i may ask, whats the version on a search for fpc*
[23:10] <R0b0t1> gusto5: What do you mean?
[23:10] <psudo> mikhailt, Yes but i am installking it on a secer :P i am a good sysadmin im sure i could get by without a gui it just makes me feel better having 1
[23:10] <gusto5> R0b0t1, when you run an aptitude search for fpc*
[23:10] <lubosz> mikhailt: yes, it allows them, also symlinks which point to stuff owned by root, work
[23:10] <Halitech> Jon5000, do you have anything in fstab to mount it?
[23:10] <Guest76914> systm; i use the vlc program and it works great.
[23:11] <itsatrick> Hello.  Something's wrong with audio CD's in Intrepid Ibex (KDE 4, especially, but also Gnome).  When I put in an audio CD, I should expect that Linux automatically mount the disc.  However, nothing happens.  The disc turns, but I can't seem to mount it (even as root).  DVD's are just fine.  Anyone else have this problem?
[23:11] <mikhailt> systm: use VLC
[23:11] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:11] <exodus_ms> !codecs | systm
[23:11] <R0b0t1> gusto5: It says installed version is 2.2.2 (which is what I want, the older one is 2.2.0), although when typing "fpc" on the terminal brings up version 2.2.0
[23:11] <Halitech> psudo, then if you are a good sysadmin you shouldn't need a gui as the machine won't have a monitor attached to it
[23:11] <Jon5000> Halitech: thats one thing i didnt try (fstab) mainly because i havent gotten comfortable yet that i understand what i would be trying to do in there... what fstab does and why, eg
[23:11] <mikhailt> psudo
[23:11] <lubosz> k, got it, after 777 all stuff
[23:11] <lubosz> damn
[23:12] <systm> mikhailt: i will try but its not reading
[23:12] <Halitech> Jon5000, fstab is basically a list of drives you want the system to mount and what ID or location they are using
[23:12] <gusto5> R0b0t1, what version runs? 2.2.0?
[23:12] <psudo> :P
[23:12] <scientes> WTF UBUNTU REMOUNTED MY DRIVE RO AND WONT LET ME REMOVUUNT IT RW
[23:12] <R0b0t1> gusto5: Yes, like I said :)
[23:12] <kitche> !caps | scientes
[23:12] <mikhailt> psudo: so what, apt-get install kde/geome doesnt work for you?
[23:12] <tim167_> hi, i want to dd an image to a disk at /dev/sda but i get 'permission denied' even with sudo, how come ? thanks
[23:13] <gusto5> R0b0t1, sorry im a little confused. to conclude, it says 2.2.2 is installed, which is what you want, but 2.2.0 comes up on the apt search?
[23:13] <psudo> mikhailt,  i dont know im waiting for it to finish
[23:13] <gusto5> R0b0t1, and 2.2.2 is the one that runs?
[23:13] <marceldv> Roasted: Does it work?
[23:13] <Ma1> hi im having trouble with hardy heron 8.04 and intel-hda drivers for ALC260 realtek hd audio. i have no sound on speakers. only very faint sound when i plug headphones into SPDIF
[23:13] <myk_robinson> How do I increase USB transfer speed in Intrepid? it creeps like the dead
[23:14] <R0b0t1> gusto5: No, no... In the synaptic window, it says the installed version is 2.2.2. But what actually runs is 2.2.0.
[23:14] <Jon5000> halitech: how is that different from umount and mount each time.  i mean, what little i understood was that fstab just made it so that you didnt have to do that each time... but even after i did that manually it didnt work.  what else does fstab do that would be different?
[23:14] <gnutron> tim167_: try a hdd partition e.g. /dev/sdaX where X is an arbitrary integer, fdisk -l to see partitions.
[23:14] <mikhailt> systm: what exactly are you reading
[23:14] <Roasted> marceldv - I messed it up. I accidentally tried imaging the external hard drive and saving the image to the 80gb SATA drive... so I'm rebooting now to set it up the proper way. :)
[23:15] <zedster> I messed up and deleted my dpkg var and usr files, now I can't upgrade or install anything
[23:15] <gusto5> gimme a sec R0b0t1 ill brb, if someone else can help you during, tahts be grat
[23:15] <Ma1> hi im having trouble with hardy heron 8.04 and intel-hda drivers for ALC260 realtek hd audio. i have no sound on speakers. only very faint sound when i plug headphones into SPDIF
[23:15] <marceldv> Roasted: lol : )
[23:15] <cbarreda> I wanted to do a clean install of Ibex. I copied my home folder, did a clean ibex install, copied the evolution folder back. My e-mail are there but not my contacts. There are folders under .evolution/addressbook/local but evolution does not seem to be reading them. Any ideas?
[23:15] <Halitech> Jon5000, fstab will mount things in the same place everytime where mount/umount may put a thumbdrive at /dev/sdc1 on 1 mount, /dev/sdc3 the next time
[23:15] <tim167_> gnutron,  sda has no partitions, I want the partitions to be overwritten anyway, but I'll try to make a partition first and try your suggestion...
[23:15] <gnutron> tim167_: use extreme caution!
[23:16] <Guest47367> I'm an IRC noob. How do I "identify in time for the nickname <name>"?
[23:16] <Halitech> cbarreda, did you make sure they have proper permissions?
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest47367 Have you registered it?
[23:16] <qcjn> hi, i've unstalled a couple of things whit synaptic, apache,mysql,icecast2,..can i do something to like the ccleaner
[23:16] <Ma1> hi im having trouble with hardy heron 8.04 and intel-hda drivers for ALC260 realtek hd audio. i have no sound on speakers. only very faint sound when i plug headphones into SPDIF. what can i do!?
[23:16] <tim167_> gnutron, yes i will, I'm aware, thanks :)
[23:16] <Guest47367> No?
[23:16] <Guest47367> I'm using Xchat in Xubuntu at the moment.
[23:16] <exodus_ms> !repeat | Ma1
[23:17] <cbarreda> I only have my account. Copied the evolution folder to an NTFS partition prior to doing the ibex install & copied back after the ibex install.
[23:17] <cbarreda> Halitech I only have my account. Copied the evolution folder to an NTFS partition prior to doing the ibex install & copied back after the ibex install.
[23:17] <systm> mikhailt: Retail DVD
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !register
[23:17] <jclbrt> ok i'd have to say that the new 8.10 has been the easiest one to use than any other prior version
[23:17] <roadrunner_> Question about bazaar here. Latest version of Gwibber gives me segmentation fault. Previous version ran fine. Had bright idea of using bzr to go get prior version of main branch. I can grab other branches of project, but I can't seem to find docs on how to pull down previous revision of main gwibber branch.
[23:17] <RobertGonzalez> Does anyone know of any drawbacks to installing 8.10 Server without a GUI?
[23:17] <exodus_ms> systm, what are you trying to do?
[23:17] <Roasted> marceldv - I got past the error. Currently it apperas to be cloning. But I'll have to wait till afterwards to push the image to my OTHER test computer to see how it works... gahh this is confusing!
[23:17] <jclbrt> every single thing worked right out of the box
[23:17] <RobertGonzalez> I heard it was a bad Idea.
[23:17] <Guest47367> ok. Thanks.
[23:17] <Jon5000> halitech: thats what i thought.  but even when i know where and how its monted, ie in situations where i just mounted it, i wasnt able to share it.  So i still am unclear why fstab will help me at this point in my problem. (i can see how it would be helpful if my problem were inconsistency in ability toi share, but i have never gotten the thing shred in the first place)
[23:17] <Halitech> cbarreda, probably doesn't have proper ownership to read it, find it with nautilus and right click and go to properties, then permissions
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest47367 If you are getting your nick removed.. it probably belongs to someone else
[23:18] <Sylphid|work> im having some issues with a directory in my home folder, .gvfs has permissions of d????????? and is taking up all of the space thats unused on my /home partition
[23:18] <jclbrt> except for the trackpad which just required a new .fdi policy file for HAL
[23:18] <gnutron> cbarreda: evolution will export all mail and setting to a gzipped tarball for you fyi. :)
[23:18] <Ma1> does "make install" command actually install drivers?
[23:18] <Halitech> Jon5000, I'm not sure it will, just giving options
[23:18] <tim167_> gnutron, still 'permission denied' with /dev/sda1 now...
[23:18] <jclbrt> even my Wireless broadband card works without a problem
[23:18] <jclbrt> YAY
[23:18] <marceldv> Roasted: The other test pc's disk has to be exactly the same size. Or it can't write the image. As far as I know.
[23:18] <qcjn> how can i be sure i made a clean uninstall..I did it via synaptic
[23:19] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: none that i am aware of and i use ubuntu all the time for servers, the only exception is when you want to do scripting but most of the time you do that on your machien and copying it to the machine
[23:19] <jclbrt> tho i wish that verizon had a version of the VZaccess software for linu
[23:19] <gnutron> tim167_: you'll need to mount it properly, filesystem type, and permissions.
[23:19] <Roasted> marceldv - I have two work issued computers at home with me... 80gb SATA, 1gb RAM, 3.0ghz P4... so I'm using one as my client, one as my server. :)
[23:19] <jclbrt> linux*
[23:19] <mikhailt> systm: you using the latest version of VLC?
[23:19] <gusto5> R0b0t1, i know this may sound straight foward, but have tried a complete removal from synaptic package manager?
[23:19] <R0b0t1> Yes.
[23:19] <tim167_> gnutron, can you help  me do that ? im not sure how...
[23:19] <gusto5> well ill be
[23:19] <marceldv> Roasted: ok, that should do :)
[23:20] <gusto5> R0b0t1, mind showing me where you acquired the 2.2.2 deb package?
[23:20] <cbarreda> Halitech folders, addressbook.db and addressbook.db.summary show I have read/write persmissions and shows me as the owner.
[23:20] <Roasted> marceldv - They're also connected to a netgear 5 port 10/100 switch with no uplink... so they're on their own little LAN with no outside connection. I'm trying to mimic how I want to set it up at work... casue at work I have a 48 port gigabit switch that I plan to use instead of the netgear 5 port that I'm using here for testing purposes.
[23:20] <Jon5000> Halitech: and i appreciate it!  hope is starting to fade... sharing this drive, and the fact that once in a while Vista would fail to mount it properly, was the main reason for my experiment with linux.  if i cant do it then its back to windows...  hence my original question -- i dont want to mess up my vista installation when i try to give it more room on the disk
[23:20] <gusto5> R0b0t1, actually im good, gimme a sec
[23:20] <R0b0t1> gusto5: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=2174&use_mirror=voxel&filename=fpc_2.2.2-0_all.deb&49860024
[23:20] <Ma1> does "make install" command actually install drivers? or does it create a deb file??
[23:20] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: Thanks. We are in the process of moving away from Fedora/RHAS and our system admin has had all sorts of trouble sorting out RAID installations and what not.
[23:20] <Halitech> cbarreda, I wonder if something got fubarred where it was on an NTFS drive
[23:20] <myk_robinson> !slow usb transfer
[23:21] <myk_robinson> !slow usb
[23:21] <RobertGonzalez> His last issue was when he tried to install without the GUI and the installer told him that he shouldn't do that.
[23:21] <Halitech> Jon5000, vista failed to mount the drive from within windows?
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile > Ma1
[23:21] <georgy_28> !usb
[23:21] <marceldv> Roasted: You could setup a network using Virtualbox or Vmware. Just setup multiple machines and boot them all.
[23:21] <gnutron> tim167_: /dev/sda1 is a  block device pointing to a partition. use /etc/fstab to auto mount it. and you can use 'mount' with parameters on the cmd line
[23:21] <Ma1> thanks jack_sparrow
[23:21] <gnutron> !mount
[23:21] <systm> mikhailt: i believe so, i think is a mounting issue.. or disk decrypting one
[23:21] <hatter243> My totem player has stopped trying to authenticate when connecting to a .htaccess controlled stream. libsoup errors 401. Anyone know a way to get it to ask for the password as I remember it doing not too long ago?
[23:22] <mikhailt> systm: you  dont see it on the desktop, you try mounting it thur cli?
[23:22] <jclbrt> has anyone used Tmobiles wireless broadband
[23:22] <marceldv> Roasted: That should be enough for testing purposes :)
[23:22] <Roasted> marceldv - I'm not a network administrator, I'm a computer technician... so my intention here is to use spare computers + network accessories to my advantage without implementing things into the network I don't have control of.
[23:22] <gnutron> tim167_: man mount or check out the ubuntu site for mounting drives
[23:23] <zedster> how can you rebuild a dpkg system when you removed all the usr and var files on mistake?
[23:23] <Roasted> marceldv - so what I want to do is use this 80gb 1gb RAM P4 computer (one of them) to use as my official server, and put it in the tech office with the gigabit switch... then whenever I need to image a computer, I'll just bring it in the office, push the image on the local LAN, and be on my way.
[23:23] <zedster> it has no memory of what packages I've installed
[23:23] <cbarreda> Halitech do you know if evolution has files in folders other than the .evolution folder?
[23:23] <Jon5000> Halitech: sorry.  not failed to mount it.  i meant it fails to find it sometimes (infrequently) and other times assigns it the wrong letter (also infrequent) rendering it unshared and i have to reassign and re-share.  even tho infrequent i felt this was unacceptable, and thougt ubuntu would be a more powerful, study and better solution.  i am finding that not to be the case
[23:23] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: and you tink moving to ubuntu is going to help with RAID?
[23:23] <tim167_> gnutron, man mount is _very_ long , but thanks anyway...i'll do some reading
[23:23] <gloryman_> Hi all
[23:23] <Halitech> zedster, how do you 'mistakenly' remove those folders?
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> zedster Easiest is to restore from a backup.. if you nuked dpkg then you have a problem
[23:23] <Roasted> marceldv - also, if I get this working, I plan to utilize my laptop as a dual boot (Ubuntu/XP Pro) and use Ubuntu as a server for clonezilla... so when I go to the elementary schools (I work in a school district) I can use my laptop, which I have on me at all times, to push the image in a completely different building miles away from my office.
[23:23] <Halitech> cbarreda, not as far as personal files
[23:24] <zedster> Halitech: stupidity ?
[23:24] <gnutron> tim167_: look on the ubuntu site for mounting partitions, its easier than the man pages
[23:24] <hatter243> Roasted, is wiki.systemimager.org the kind of thing you're thinking of?
[23:24] <zedster> Jack_Sparrow: I restored the var/lib from backup
[23:24] <Halitech> Jon5000, have you considered that maybe there is a problem with the drive and thats why its not sharing properly?
[23:24] <tim167_> gnutron, ok thanks
[23:24] <zedster> but not the usr and such
[23:24] <zedster> it won't let me install files
[23:24] <cbarreda> Halitech thanks. Guess will try an old windows trick. Create new folders, copy the .db and hope it works
[23:24] <Halitech> zedster, guess that answer works as well as any :)
[23:24] <Paw> Hey guys I am installing ubuntu, I checked the disk and no errors on it, now I am at a cool back ground, and a grey box in the middle with a cursor, but it is not changing any ideas?
[23:24] <systm> mikhailt: its mounted on the desktop, but its like its blank
[23:25] <zedster> Halitech: honesty is a good policy right?
[23:25] <Roasted> hatter243 - Well, sort of... but I dont use Linux at work besides for my personal troubleshooting reasons. :(
[23:25] <malcom2073> Question: sound worked earlier today, I left my computer sit for about 10 hours and then I just tried to play audio and I've tried banshee and rythymbox, both players lock up when I try to play any audio. When I click "Test" in system -> preferences ->  sound settings, it says Failed to connect: connection refused.Any thoughts on what could cause this?
[23:25] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: No. But we are confident that making the move to Ubuntu was the right choice. Its just that the folks around here are heavy on the Unix experience, not so much on the Linux and what linux they do have is pretty much all RH. Installation in the past has been easy because it was known by experience. Ubuntu is apparently significantly more different than RH.
[23:25] <psudo> Halitech,  problem "User Switcher" has quit unexpectedly
[23:25] <gnutron> zedster: i think you're fubar'd man. i'd be looking for an install disk.
[23:25] <psudo> i keep hitting reload but nothing
[23:25] <hatter243> Roasted, suppose you could also try a kickstart network but so far for me that's bit a bit of a troublesome thing to get happy
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tim167_ sudo mkdir /media/blah then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/blah   substitute your drive for sda1
[23:25] <Halitech> cbarreda, I wonder if you copy the files to the desktop, make the owner root then change them back to you and move them back, wonder if that would do anything
[23:26] <Halitech> zedster, makes it easier to help if we can :)
[23:26] <marceldv> Roasted: If you setup multiple virtual machines with virtualbox or whatever virtualization software. You could create a virtual network to test out your setup. You don need multiple system. One system running virtualbox is enough. Though don't expect any superspeed though
[23:26] <Halitech> psudo, no idea, never used it
[23:26] <Jon5000> Halitech: i am open to this suggestion for sure.  but by wrong with the drive i am not sure what you mean.  can you explain a possibility>?again, now i think we are over my head.
[23:26] <psudo> kk
[23:26] <Pabremer> Hello people, may someone help me please?
[23:26] <yowshi> hmmm iu see the firefox memory issue is back
[23:26] <Halitech> Jon5000, thinking that maybe the drive is dying
[23:26] <mikhailt> systm: does it work anywhere else?
[23:26] <Roasted> Anybody who has used CloneZilla Live, how long did it take to make an image?? I'm making an image now and after 10 minutes its at 2%
[23:27] <badawi> !azureus
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Pabremer Just ask your question and wait
[23:27] <marceldv> Roasted: That should be enough for testing purposes :)
[23:27] <marceldv> Roasted: If you setup multiple virtual machines with virtualbox or whatever virtualization software. You could create a virtual network to test out your setup. You don need multiple system. One system running virtualbox is enough. Though don't expect any superspeed though
[23:27] <Pabremer> Ok...
[23:27] <J4k3-> xenxenxen
[23:27] <J4k3-> ;)
[23:27] <_cb> zedster couple of things that have worked for me. 1.- If booting from CD is not working try running Ubuntu from CD and installing from there.  If that does not work change mode to safe graphics (F4) on initial install
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> J4k3- Please dont
[23:28] <Jon5000> Halitech: dying?  that sounds technical.  FYI its a new drive, purchased 1 year ago, when it began its natural life.  Dying... not to get too existential, but what does that mean?
[23:28] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: i wouldn't say it would be that big of a different, just replacing some of the commands and it still is the same in most of the way, its the question of how fast they update their packages and core stuff
[23:28] <Roasted> marceldv - Yeah, like I said, my control over the network is limited... and I always have my laptop with me... so what I need to do will bes ufficient if I can get my laptop working. But I also plan to use the HP computer I'm using now for mass deployment hooked up to our 48 port gigabit switch for when the 500 pcs come.
[23:28] <Halitech> Jon5000, means that it is going to stop working....have you used it alot?
[23:28] <dalekleader> is it safe to delete files core and core.28687 from te home folder?  what are these files for?
[23:28] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: however RH is much slower than Ubuntu for sure on some area, mostly iSCSI
[23:29] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: i mean the other way, Ubuntu is slower than RH
[23:29] <J4k3-> Jack_Sparrow: don't what?
[23:29] <azimout> dalekleader: yes, you can delete them. some applications create them when they crash
[23:29] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: Our biggest issue at the moment is that with each iteration of Fedora their support for the previous iteration all but stops. So in order to get the newest versions of software packages we need to install an entirely new OS or make all sorts of changes to the system to handle the newest versions of packages while maintaining dependencies.
[23:29] <marceldv> Roasted: Well I don't know anything about CloneZilla. But probably you setup a clonezilla server. And use the live cd to get the image from the server.
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> J4k3- Please dont put up posts like that
[23:29] <J4k3-> xen is outrageously easy to implement and use.
[23:29] <marceldv> Roasted: Though,, Don't ask me how. Don't know anything about it.
[23:29] <dalekleader> azimout, is it normal for them to get 250mb+ each?
[23:30] <Roasted> marceldv - I think I know what I did... I think I utilized the entire 80gb drive as an image... whereas I just wanted to use the USED blocks on the HDD as the image.
[23:30] <Lasivian> sigh, I just rebooted and my wireless will not connect
[23:30] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: Of course, since we are more knowledgable in the RH flavor of Linux setting it up is not really an issue. Ubuntu is proving to be a tad more difficult than was expected.
[23:30] <Roasted> So basically I was making an image thats 3.5gb into an image thats 80gb with 77gb worth of free space.
[23:30] <Jon5000> Halitech: ummm.  hard to define alot.  I dont think so.  It is a 500GB drive that stores photos, music, video and documents.  About 230GB is used.  Parts of it are It is backed up daily, weekly, and monthly.  So i guess its read from somewhat frequently.  but not writtent to extensively...
[23:30] <Pabremer> I was using Ubuntu 8.04 then I installed Mandriva 2009, but the "mandriva's lilo" did not have the option to Ubuntu so I tried to add Ubuntu in the "lilo.conf" but I failed then when I restarted my computer I cannot access both systems... What can I do to acess Ubuntu again?
[23:31] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: But I think it is all good. As long as we can install the server version without the GUI and we can manage it as we are now (through remoting in or through SSH) we are golden.
[23:31] <Halitech> Jon5000, what format is it? NTFS? fat32?
[23:31] <badawi> Pabremer: mandriva uses grub just like ubuntu, and by default it has "othe linux" selection
[23:31] <marceldv> Roasted: Ok.. Maybe there's a setting somewhere.. Anyway I gotta go. Good luck !! :)
[23:31] <Paw> Need Help: I am doing an install for Ubuntu, I am stuck at a redish background and a grey box.. I can move the mouse but it is laggy.. Any ideas what to do?
[23:31] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: that is why in most of my work, i use ESX to install the OSes even for SQL/Emaiil servers. it is far much easier to set up a new virtualized Ubuntu to test the new OS against our products and softwares and crap like that, once it is done, we move it forward and leave the noncompatibles behind so that we can fix it
[23:31] <Roasted> thanks!
[23:32] <marceldv> Roasted: No problem!
[23:32] <Paw> Need Help: I am doing an install for Ubuntu, I am stuck at a redish background and a grey box.. I can move the mouse but it is laggy.. Any ideas what to do?
[23:32] <Pabremer> badawi: ok, but it didn't appear in the grub
[23:32] <azimout> dalekleader: yes... can you remember any of your programs crashing recently?
[23:32] <pan> can u backup windows by mounting first then tar czvfp backup.tgz?
[23:32] <Jon5000> Halitech: Fat32.  FWIW, I have seen others posting in forums with similar problems but havent seen any great resolution from the heavens.  in some cases the people solved their problem with solutions that didint work for me.
[23:33] <Pabremer> badawi: instead of conventional grub, is being used Mandriva's grub
[23:33] <azimout> paw: did you get any error messages?
[23:33] <Paw> azimout: no
[23:33] <dalekleader> azimout, no, it was the first time I saw those files since feb
[23:33] <Jon5000> Halitech: in other cases there was no resolution
[23:33] <Halitech> Jon5000, ok, was thinking maybe NTFS which does seem to be flaky at times with mounting
[23:33] <mikhailt> Paw: are you after the installation or during the installation
[23:33] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: ESX? I think I am more n00B than I let on. :(
[23:33] <badawi> Pabremer: is mandriva grub on mbr and ubunt grub on /dev/sda2 or something like that?
[23:33] <_cb> paw couple of things that have worked for me. 1.- If booting from CD is not working try running Ubuntu from CD and installing from there.  If that does not work change mode to safe graphics (F4) on initial install
[23:33] <Paw> mik: during the installing, Im at it now..
[23:33] <b52laptop> ppl how to desactivate the gnome background image
[23:33] <azimout> paw: try checking the livecd for errors, and also running a memtest86+
[23:34] <Paw> azi: I checked for erros, and I am running off the live cd
[23:34] <gnutron> b52laptop: right click on the desktop
[23:34] <mikhailt> Paw: sounds like it may not work with your monitor or graphic card
[23:34] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: So if we have a brand new box with no OS on it how would you install Ubuntu 8.10 server on it?
[23:34] <Lasivian> what would make a wireless device stop working? I didn;t muck with it, I just rebooted
[23:34] <Paw> mik: so how do I solve that?
[23:34] <b52laptop> gnutron, i want to select it true a personnal script
[23:34] <psudo> IndyGunFreak,  Why you not aim me no more?
[23:34] <Pabremer> badawi: i don't know.. i think mandriva is in "sda6" and ubuntu in "sda2" or the contrary
[23:34] <Paw> mik: I just have a grey box with a ][ curse but together..
[23:34] <Roasted> Has anybody ever created an image with CloneZilla?
[23:34] <b52laptop> i mean gnome must not touch the backgournd at all
[23:34] <pan> can u backup windows by mounting first then tar czvfp backup.tgz?
[23:34] <hatter243> In Ubuntu, when a program requires a password and you select to "always remember" that password. Where is it stored?
[23:34] <b52laptop> not just change it
[23:35] <Jon5000> Halitech: vfat would be fat32, right?
[23:35] <Halitech> Lasivian, did you check your network applet and try to connect to your wireless network?
[23:35] <Halitech> Jon5000, fat32 or fat16
[23:35] <Pabremer> badawi: i just wanna backup 8gbs of files in Ubuntu then reinstall only Ubuntu in my hd
[23:35] <gnutron> b52laptop: i can't help you there, sorry.
[23:35] <mgolisch> pan: no
[23:35] <b52laptop> gnutron, thanks ;d
[23:35] <Lasivian> halitech: yes, it sees the network, but it's not able to connect to either of my routers, no settings have changed and I rebooted both of them
[23:35] <badawi> !paste
[23:35] <Halitech> RobertGonzalez, boot from the alt install cd and install
[23:35] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: ESX is a complete bareborne server virtualization platform from VMWare, you install it first on the server, then remotely you install the OS or locally depending on which version of ESX you use
[23:35] <antix> d
[23:35] <Lasivian> I was connected, then I rebooted and it has not reconnect
[23:36] <zedster> I get this error when I open apptitude then it crashes  E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[23:36] <Halitech> Lasivian, do the sudo iwlist again and see if its still seeing them
[23:36] <mgolisch> pan: for fat32 that might work but it doenst for ntfs as tar wouldnt save any attributes or permissions for the files
[23:36] <badawi> Pabremer: try adding somthing like this in mandriva grub file http://paste.ubuntu.com/83758/
[23:36] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: it is also free now, so you can test and play around with it
[23:36] <pan> k
[23:36] <The-Kernel> Hi so for some reason when I click on the network icon, and then menu comes down, everything is grayed out. How do I change that?
[23:37] <badawi> Pabremer: u'll need to play with the values to suit you, the sda2 part and the 1 and 2 number that goes with hd0
[23:38] <badawi> Pabremer: please don't pm me
[23:38] <Pabremer> badawi: its easier
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm
[23:38] <Pabremer> badawi: lots of mesages here
[23:38] <Pabremer> badawi: please
[23:38] <kindofabuzz> how do i make it to where intrepid can play more than one sound at once?
[23:38] <badawi> Pabremer: that's how we roll over here
[23:38] <Lasivian> Halitech, shutdown/pull power & battery then restart seems to have fixed it
[23:38] <kindofabuzz> like i want pidgin sounds while playing a media file
[23:39] <Halitech> Lasivian, ok
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[23:39] <badawi> !grub | Pabremer
[23:39] <Pabremer> badawi: ok, btw... what can i do to see what's my ubuntu and mandriva partition?
[23:39] <Lasivian> I hate knowing windows so well and being so damned unix stupid.. grr
[23:39] <badawi> Pabremer: and google something called supergrub, it will boot into anything from anything
[23:39] <mikhailt> Lasivian: everybody start out everywhere
[23:39] <Pabremer> badawi: then i'll create the "way" to ubuntu and mandriva again in grub
[23:39]  * Lasivian cries in her ice cream
[23:39] <Viflux> Hi everyone.  Network share question...I've mounted a network drive (on a Debian server) from my Ubuntu machine.  I can't save files to it from applications, and when I do "touch [file]" I am told that [file] is "not a directory".  I can confirm that the share is working properly as I can access it from other machines (Vista/XP/Debian).  Thoughts?
[23:40] <Lasivian> mikhailt, yes, it's just frustrating when you know what's wrong, but not what steps to take to troubleshoot :)
[23:40] <Halitech> Lasivian, we all start somewhere but I know wha tyou mean, it can be quite humbling to realize how little we know when we come over to linux
[23:40] <benzss> what would i do if i wanted to own /mnt ? something to do with chown?
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Lasivian Not to worry, since you wont be chasing down virii and reinstalling windows you will have time to learn this os quite fast
[23:40] <Lasivian> like cars, "ok, I have a flat tire, but why does this car have no lug nuts?!?!"
[23:40] <Guest66429> j
[23:41] <mikhailt> Lasivian: i love it, it's the part of the reason im in IT, it's like being a detective
[23:41] <kindofabuzz> how do i make it to where intrepid can play more than one sound at once? with alsa, or does alsa not support that?
[23:41] <Lasivian> mikhailt, yeah, "House M.D."
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kindofabuzz I called up the sound factiod a minute ago
[23:41] <Pabremer> badawi: i cannot use supergrub because i dont have any cd
[23:41] <kindofabuzz> Jack_Sparrow, and that factoid says use alsa
[23:41] <gnutron> benzss: sudo chown user:group /mnt  would be the syntax. /media is another option.
[23:42] <mikhailt> Lasivian: love the show, the only difference is I dont intent to kill my pc just to find out what problem it has
[23:42] <Lasivian> heh
[23:42] <Lasivian> I fried 2 motherboards last week
[23:42] <badawi> Pabremer: you can boot usb and floppy too http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[23:42] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: Thanks for the info. I will be looking up ESX shortly.
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > Pabremer
[23:42] <mikhailt> Lasivian: well then... you on the right track
[23:43] <Lasivian> mikhailt, hah
[23:43] <RobertGonzalez> Halitech: Thanks. Our admin figured that part out after about 20 failed attempts and setting it up. He figured out the alt install CD and got it working from there. Then ran into that issue of removing the GUI having problems.
[23:43] <Pabremer> !pm > Jack_Sparrow
[23:44] <elphias> how do i kill x to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website?
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Pabremer I know what pm is thanks
[23:44] <Halitech> RobertGonzalez, should have been an option to do the server install which wouldnt have a gui
[23:44] <mikhailt> does anybody ever find a job thur the IRC? would be nice to get jobs
[23:45] <Pabremer> the end of my grub.lst :
[23:45] <Pabremer> ## ## End Default Options ##
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> elphias  hit clt-alt-f2, login. run  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop. do your nivida stuff, using sudo. sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start to restart X . ctl-alt-f7 to get back to gui, if needed
[23:45] <Pabremer> title		Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic
[23:45] <Pabremer> root		(hd0,1)
[23:45] <Pabremer> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=ee580cdd-cfa4-4d68-abb7-0c50b33e70be ro quiet splash locale=pt_BR
[23:45] <Pabremer> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic
[23:45] <FloodBot1> Pabremer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <gnutron> elphias: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  or kdm for kubuntu.
[23:45] <badawi> !ot | mikhailt
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > Pabremer
[23:45] <elphias> gnutron: thank you for your help ^_^
[23:45] <mrwes> re
[23:46]  * elphias poofs to install nvidia drivers
[23:46] <mrwes> anyone know if the ppa repos for open office 3.0 for Hardy will ever be available?
[23:46] <tim167_> when i pipe a sudo command with | and the part after | should also be 'sudo-ed' do i repeat sudo after | ?
[23:46] <fosco_> mrwes: don't think so
[23:46] <LjL> tim167_: yes, although it's kind of unusual for *both* parts of a piped command to need sudo
[23:47] <mrwes> doesn't make friggin' sense they have them for Ibex, but not for a LTS version
[23:47] <erUSUL> tim167_: which command line ?
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> tim167_ sudo should hold for 5 minutes (that window only)
[23:47] <mrwes> fosco_, thanks...
[23:47] <psudo> hmm can some one explain to me what a dns server dose exactly ?
[23:47] <tim167_> LjL, erUSUL  its this: gzip -dc /mnt/hdb1/system_drive_backup.img.gz | dd of=/dev/hda
[23:47] <psudo> i googled for a definition but uh didnt recive quite what i was looking for
[23:47] <Pabremer> I installed Mandriva then the ubuntu's grub dessapeared... Trying to add ubuntu in the mandriva's grub I did something wrong and now i cannot access mandriva and ubuntu... what can i do to access ubuntu again?
[23:47] <erUSUL> tim167_: yes you need sudo i this case...
[23:47] <Halitech> psudo, translates words into IP addresses so the net can understand them
[23:48] <j_xinudsb> wiki DNS
[23:48] <etherael> I notice there seems to be no irc server in the ubuntu packages, but that's not that big of a deal because I'm imagining that there's now some new and jazzy better web based collab tool that would do the same job as an irc server would otherwise do that I can whack on my local web server and then hand out the web address to people. Does such a beast exist?
[23:48] <azimout> psudo: try wikipedia...
[23:48] <tim167_> erUSUL, ok, but do i have to repeat 'sudo' after the '|' ?
[23:48] <psudo> Halitech,  So what is the point of having a dns server ?
[23:48] <Pabremer> !paste > Jack_Sparrow
[23:48] <Jon5000> Halitech, good to chat w. you.  gotta run.  thanks.
[23:48] <kitche> etherael: there is many irc servers in the repos
[23:48] <LjL> tim167_: sudo on both, yes. you can also always go to "sudo -i" when doing complex operations like that
[23:48] <Halitech> psudo, would you rather have to remember millions of IP addresses?
[23:48] <badawi> psudo: dns server translates www.google.com into <IP_ADDRESS> and ...
[23:49] <badawi> !ot | psudo
[23:49] <etherael> kitche, hmmm nothing coming up except clients when I search for "irc server" ?
[23:49] <erUSUL> tim167_: i will use it only after the | i do not think you need sudo tu unzip a file but you sure need it to wrtte to a raw block device
[23:49] <mikhailt> etherael: there are irc servers, you might be looking int eh wrong place
[23:49]  * Flare183 laughs
[23:49] <kitche> etherael: hmm odd try to see if unrealircd comes up
[23:49] <mikhailt> etherael: usually the servers dont name themselve irc server
[23:49] <tim167_> LjL ok thanks, then I think i found why i got 'permission denied' before :)
[23:49] <etherael> checking.
[23:49] <LjL> tim167_: actually anyway whether or not you need "sudo" on the "gzip" part depends on what permissions the /mnt/hdb1 mount has
[23:50] <etherael> kitche, nope, nothing, and it's searching in all available apps, I'll try apt-get from cmdline h5.
[23:50] <Paw> I am happy this irc channel is here.. its helpful :)
[23:50] <tim167_> LjL is it ok to use sudo even if it's not needed (i started the command now, but i could interrupt it if necessary)
[23:50] <psudo> badawi,  it has somthing to do with ubuntu i am asking the questions because i installed a dns server on my server and i wanted to know how to use it :P
[23:51] <LjL> tim167_: it's bad form (and potentially dangerous if you mistype something), but it will work just fine.
[23:51] <tim167_> LjL ok cool, thanks
[23:51] <Halitech> psudo, unless you register it then its not going to do anything
[23:51] <badawi> psudo: you don't need to have it installed, trust me
[23:52] <psudo> badawi just cause i seem like a retard dont mean i dont want to learn how to use it :D
[23:52] <jayk-> does ubuntu support ext4?
[23:52] <mrwes> uh?
[23:52] <Paw> Suggestion: What should I do for ubuntu partion, guided use the largest continuous free space?
[23:52] <badawi> psudo: nobody called you that, dns server is for ISPs
[23:53] <chronographer> hi all I got problems with audio on intrepid. http://pastebin.com/m7c9d8445 this is get when testing with 'sound preferences' restarting alsa-utils and pulseaudio doesn't work
[23:53] <mrwes> Paw, try a manual and setup a root / , a /home and a swap
[23:53] <Flare183> jayk-: I didn't know that ext4 existed
[23:53] <chronographer> mpd wont play music (it usually does)
[23:53] <psudo> badawi,  i am looking into web and domain hosting :P
[23:53] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, well how much free space do you want to give to ubuntu?
[23:53] <Halitech> badawi, hosting companies will use them as well if they are big enough
[23:53] <Pabremer> i installed mandriva ubuntu didn't appear in the mandriva's grub... trying to fix it I modificatead the mandriva's grub and now i cannot acces mandriva and ubuntu... what should i do to access ubuntu again?
[23:53] <Paw> mrwes: how do i do that lol
[23:53] <jeremy_> Hi
[23:53] <amikrop> Hello. VLC crashes when I try to switch to Fullscreen. Any help, please?
[23:53] <kitche> psudo: there is many documents on the web depending on which DNS server you have installed
[23:53] <jeremy_> Could somebody please help me set up dual monitors on my ubuntu 8.10?
[23:54] <Paw> indy: Well i had 20 gigs free is that enough for ubuntu?
[23:54] <macondo> I'm not able to mount an audio cd, could it be DRM?
[23:54] <mikhailt> badawi: no it aint just for ISP, most businesses use it as well not just ISP
[23:54] <genii> psudo: When someone requests a domain you own, their browser or so asks how to get there and resolve the name to an ip. So thru a chain of requests finally some box asks your machine "are you the primary nameserver for this domain?" If so then it responds and then they now arrive at your domain
[23:54] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, if you're this co9njfused, i would ust setup a / and a swap
[23:54] <jeremy_> Coulod somebody please help me set up dual monitors on ubuntu
[23:54] <jbernard_> jayk-: not currently, i believe the testing team is working on it now
[23:54] <jayk-> cool
[23:54] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, 20gigs is plenty, is this machine gonna dual boot?
[23:54] <Flare183> !dualhead | jeremy_
[23:54] <jayk-> cool, cant wait for it. :)
[23:54] <Paw> Indy: for now until I can figure out enough about ubuntu to take off horrid windows.
[23:54] <mrwes> Paw, there are plenty of on line guides http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801404
[23:54] <Halitech> psudo, you would be better off using something like zoneedit.com since it is already registered as a DNS server
[23:54] <kitche> jayk-: I believe it does but not sure since I have not touched ext4
[23:55] <Paw> Actually, just going to use it all for ubuntu :-p.
[23:55] <jeremy_> um
[23:55] <kitche> Halitech: huh you don't have to register a DNS server
[23:55] <genii> psudo: You may want to ask along this line in #ubuntu-server since desktop version does not need or have bind installed
[23:55] <jeremy_> could somebody actually HELP ME set up dual head
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, then i would leave you a little space on the drive for windows.
[23:55] <punzada> does anyone know any ncurses based binary news readers?
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> maybe give 15gigs to ubuntu.
[23:55] <jeremy_> not just give me a dictionary definition?
[23:55] <Paw> Indy: I am going to take off windows I think.
[23:55] <Halitech> kitche, if its not registered somewhere then how will the other servers know to look for it?
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, i w9ouldn't do that, you'll ended up frustrated, and using windows again in less than a week
[23:55] <jeremy_> somebody please help me
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> happens to everyone who does that without at least experimenting first
[23:55] <Paw> Indy: I have my laptop with everything I need, My desktop is old and something to fiddle with :-p
[23:56] <jbernard_> jayk-: you're free to use ext4 now, but I doubt ted's got all the kinks worked out yet
[23:56] <jayk-> ext4 might be in jaunty?
[23:56] <Pabremer> i installed mandriva ubuntu didn't appear in the mandriva's grub... trying to fix it I modificatead the mandriva's grub and now i cannot acces mandriva and ubuntu... what should i do to access ubuntu again?
[23:56] <jayk-> alpha1?
[23:56] <chronographer> anyone help with audio playback please? http://pastebin.com/m5fc3f7f1
[23:56] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, oh, well in that case, that would be a good idea, just tell it to take over the whole drive, and it will do everything else
[23:56] <jbernard_> jayk-: i wouldn't be surprised
[23:56] <Paw> Indy: I think I did, It saids Ubuntu 100% so.. yeah
[23:56] <Pici> jayk-: Some of it should be in there, but ext4 itself is not finished.
[23:56] <kitche> Halitech: easy it's just a config file really that you setup to tell a root server about the DNS but you don't register a DNS server only time you need to register a DNS server is though a registrar so that it actually knows where the domain points to for DNS
[23:56] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, ok.
[23:56] <mrwes> Paw, Have you tried a Live CD to see if Ubuntu will run with your hardware?
[23:57] <jayk-> yeah..i shouldnt use ext4 on my mailserver...
[23:57] <Paw> Indy: And Windows is crap.. so bye bye :-p I am fiddling with it on my old desktop so when I am ready, I am going to put my laptop into ubuntu!
[23:57] <jayk-> with these large drives, fsck takes forever...like 45 minutes
[23:57] <Paw> mrwes: I have had ubuntu on this computer before and it runs, but I didnt have time to fiddle and only one computer, so windows went back on it
[23:57] <Pici> jayk-: Definitely not, I wouldn't use it unless you are planning to develop the filesystem itself.
[23:57] <Halitech> kitche, but you need to register with the root server so it wil accept the information
[23:57] <mrwes> Paw, gotcha
[23:57] <Pabremer> i installed mandriva ubuntu didn't appear in the mandriva's grub... trying to fix it I modificatead the mandriva's grub and now i cannot acces mandriva and ubuntu... what should i do to access ubuntu again?
[23:57] <genii> jayk-: Try running it on a 7 hard drive raid 5 with all 1Tb drives :/
[23:57] <Paw> So now i have a laptop with windows and everything important and a free computer to fiddle with!
[23:57] <Paw> So if it goes boom no biggy
[23:58] <jayk-> genii: i have a 4gb array with 6 drives and 1 spare
[23:58] <jayk-> but im using zfs
[23:58] <mikhailt> Halitech: yes you register the domain with the domain registrar and they send the DNS info to the root servers
[23:58] <mrwes> Paw, yah I do that too.. I have my desktop running Hardy LTS and my laptop running Ibex
[23:58] <Paw> mrwes: Very nice, I have my laptop (dont kill me..) Windows vista, and my desktop setting up ubuntu..
[23:58] <mrwes> although Ibex has been pretty stable
[23:58] <Halitech> mikhailt, so the DNS server is still being registered
[23:58] <almark> Is is possible to upgrade Ubuntu intrepix  8.10 to Ubuntu Studio, the Studio live cd gave me problems installing. The cd is Ubuntu 8.10 also
[23:58] <jayk-> genii: oops..4tb using raid6
[23:59] <kitche> Halitech: no you don't
[23:59] <mrwes> Paw, Ibex runs great on my Dell D600
[23:59] <Paw> mrwes: Only thing I think this ati radeon card on my desktop is going to give me some bad news..
[23:59] <Paw> mrwes: I have a hp 64 bit
[23:59] <elementz> is there a difference between the nvidia driver provided in the repositories, and the legacy driver?
[23:59] <genii> jayk-: It's painful, I know. I usually let it run overnight
[23:59] <mrwes> Paw, you might want to go with Ibex then, better support for ATI cards
[23:59] <fosco_> elementz: legacy is for old ones (also provided by repos)
[23:59] <Paw> mrwes: Oh really? Damn already started installing lol