[00:00] <linxeh> see zipsplit, zip etc
[00:00] <erUSUL> xim_: seems like the zip program in linux is less capable than winzip and its ilk :)
[00:00] <linxeh> just use zipsplit
[00:00] <mick__> on the contrary, its mmore powerful
[00:00] <infid> mick__ why would you do that when could have bought them both windows licenses for over 100 dollars each and get to deal with reinstalling it all the time when they get malware/virus infested?
[00:00] <krad> stfu
[00:00] <krad> mick__
[00:00] <erUSUL> xim_: either way; unix moto is "do one thing and do it well" use zip; split and cat
[00:01] <linxeh> krad: ?
[00:01] <mick__> lol infid
[00:01] <krad> abusing my pm
[00:01] <mick__> im pming ou?
[00:01] <krad> wait
[00:01] <krad> sorry it's miip
[00:01] <linxeh> erUSUL: or use zipsplit rather than split if you want anyone else to make sense of it
[00:01] <krad> but anyway, stfu you too
[00:01] <krad> lmao
[00:01] <mick__> awww yoru a sweety krad :-P
[00:01] <xim_> linxeh, is zipslipt not in the repos?
[00:01] <erUSUL> linxeh: ok pint taken ;)
[00:02] <krad> mick__, faggot
[00:02] <linxeh> xim_: I already have it on my ubuntu box
[00:02] <mick__> righteo krad.
[00:03] <xim_> its seeming less and less likely i can get this file split in the next hour
[00:03] <linxeh> dpkg -S `which zipsplit`
[00:03] <linxeh> zip: /usr/bin/zipsplit
[00:03] <Pici> krad, mick__ : This is a support channel. Lets keep it civil and on-topic.  If you want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic , but please mind the /topic in there as well.
[00:03] <mick__> linuxeh..another motto is ''unix is user friendly, just choosy about who it is friendly with''
[00:03] <mick__> i am trying thankyou
[00:03] <linxeh> xim_: if you have "zip" then you should have zipsplit
[00:03] <mick__> thank you pici
[00:03] <xim_> ahh i see
[00:03] <xim_> linxeh, thx
[00:03] <mick__> first time in here or on irc
[00:04] <mick__> in the classrooms tomorrow do you think they will touch dns/ftp setup and lockdown?
[00:04] <linxeh> mick__: 15+ years of linux, and no IRC ?
[00:04] <gui7> ello
[00:04] <revelnick> does this really have any advantage over the kernel cache? http://talks.php.net/show/acc_php/35
[00:04] <mick__> no :-)
[00:04] <mazda01> ne1 have successful burns with TDK dvd+r's?
[00:04] <mick__> i have mazda yes
[00:04] <linxeh> mazda01: yup
[00:04] <blakkheim> !u | mazda01
[00:05] <gui7> i'm on a pc; i'd like to triple-boot win7, mac os x, and ubuntu using the grub bootloader. i can't seem to find any complete/proper tutorials using GRUB, anyone know hwo to do this?
[00:05] <linxeh> mazda01: as many as other brands anyway
[00:05] <mick__> i had to switch down to +8 speed though
[00:05] <mick__> will mac work with grub?
[00:05] <daftykins> gui7: that's a bit off topic really.
[00:06] <mick__> afaik it tries to grab the bootloader
[00:06] <daftykins> macs use EFI, only bootcamp partition OS's could use GRUB chainloaded i think.
[00:06] <gui7> daftykins, is it? i've gotten help with these things here before tho :)
[00:06] <mazda01> linxeh, well, i just bought some generic garbage from best buy 25 dvd-r's and they are all bad! i can't believe that not just one dvd burner in my computer went bad, but both????
[00:06] <mick__> mazda are they scratched?
[00:07] <gui7> perhaps i could delete windows' + mac's own bootloaders and then add in entries to grub?
[00:07] <mick__> or if they have been on display they will suffer uv degradation of the plastic too
[00:07] <mick__> what about setting up linux as dom0 and running them as VMs with XEN
[00:07] <xim_> so how do i get file roller to package up rar files, the file compression link only seems to cover unraring them
[00:08] <bikcmp> Hello all, I get a error when using make
[00:08] <pen16> how long before audio works on Linux without all the problems
[00:08] <pen16> 5 yrs?
[00:08] <mick__> sorry xim not too sure it does have plugins as far as i can recall
[00:08] <mazda01> gonna buy a new lite-on dh-24aas, anyone else know if that's a re-branded piece of junk, or is it a decent lite-on model? buying from tigerfdirect for $29.99
[00:08] <bikcmp> http://pastebin.com/d6ca8434b
[00:08] <gui7> pen16, the million-dollars question :P
[00:09] <sebsebseb> pen16: that depends on the distro, how well audio works or doesn't work, to some extent
[00:09] <mick__> pen16 I have been using linux with audio for the last 12 at least
[00:09] <mick__> no problems :)
[00:09] <Pici> mazda01: Best to ask in ##hardware for that
[00:09] <mick__> I stick to standard cards though
[00:09] <sebsebseb> pen16: there are a few ways audio can be done, and it's pulseaudio that is known to get the issues
[00:09] <mazda01> Pici, there's a linux hardware channel?
[00:09] <Schui> anyone know of a good place to buy ubuntu laptops?
[00:09] <mick__> in what country?
[00:10] <mick__> Schui, what country?
[00:10] <mazda01> Pici, i have been having issues wodim and dvd+rw tools, so i am not even sure I need to buy a new drie but I figure $29.99 isn't bad
[00:10] <sebsebseb> pen16: What kind of sound problems you got?
[00:10] <Schui> mick_, united states
[00:10] <pen16> It may be possible to avoid problems with audio if you are mostly using desktop applications. All I do is music so, I use some audio production apps and therefore they all pretty much use different audio daemons
[00:10] <mick__> ah not off the top of my head sorry :-(
[00:10] <xim_> can file roller not create rar archives? or anything splitable? it says it only splits 7zip and rar, but cant make either of those types
[00:10] <pen16> Not just what the distro ships for basic desktop sound support
[00:10] <mick__> I know there is one in the uk alright
[00:10] <pen16> So there's all kinds of problems
[00:10] <Schui> what is it anyways? :)
[00:10] <pen16> basically endless :X
[00:10] <Pici> mazda01: I'm not familiar with those tools, so I probably can't help. Sorry.
[00:11] <mick__> two minutes let me find the ad in the mag
[00:11] <Pici> Schui: Dell sells computers with Ubuntu on them. As well as System 76.
[00:11] <pen16> sound surely could work for regular ol' programs
[00:11] <mazda01> Pici, wodim is what k3b and almost every gui image burning software uses.
[00:11] <Schui> ty pici
[00:11] <cegorach> anybody know an archive format that is compatible with ubuntu and supports larch archive files?
[00:11] <sebsebseb> pen16: by default the distro will be using pulseaudio,  which can be disabled some how, don't know how,  and even removed which isn't really a good idea.
[00:12] <pen16> sebsebseb: Yes, the regular stuff for the distro is fine, but the "musician programs" aren't under the tight scrutiny of the Ubuntu team to integrated into a regular desktop
[00:12] <pen16> they're more undergroundish
[00:12] <gui7> if i install windows 7 and then ubuntu, will grub allow me to boot straight into win7 or will i have to  then re-choose windows 7 in 7's own bootloader?
[00:12] <pen16> so they all use different sound systems
[00:13] <sebsebseb> gui7: Grub will allow both to boot, but Ubuntu will be the default, but that can be changed
[00:13] <pen16> some use ESD, some use pulseaudio, some use jack, some use ALSA directly
[00:13] <pen16> and you gotta make it all work together to have a functioning music system
[00:13] <sebsebseb> gui7: one will automatically load by default, and that one is Ubuntu
[00:13] <mazda01> Pici, dvd+rw-tools dvd+rw-tools makes it possible to burn DVD images created by dvdauthor or genisoimage to DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R, and DVD-RW
[00:13] <mazda01>  disks, replacing cdrecord-proDVD in many cases.
[00:14] <Andorin> Hey, guys? I'm on 64-bit Karmic. I have the package flashplugin-installer installed, but no Flash in Firefox 3.6. Anyone know why?
[00:14] <mazda01> sorry for pasting, i thought it would paste on one line
[00:14] <mick__> Schui:  http://www.emperorlinux.com/mfgr/lenovo/
[00:15] <acicula> cegorach: bz2+tar ?
[00:15] <mick__> for the music stuff think i came across an article sometime ago in ubuntucircle magazine(online free pdf mag devoted to ubuntu)
[00:15] <cegorach> acicula: is that windows compatible?
[00:15] <acicula> pen16: just pukse and audio will do(or is the default), esd is dead(i hope anyway)
[00:15] <sebsebseb> Andorin: not on Ubuntu right now,  so uhmm   3.6 hrm, is that one you installed yourself directly from Mozilla,  or the one that comes in Ubuntu that has been updated?
[00:16] <pen16> right now I'm trying to get  PulseAudio, ESD, OSS, ALSA, Jack, to all work together and I it's highly stressful
[00:16] <acicula> cegorach: nope, then you have to stick to zip
[00:16] <Andorin> sebsebseb: Installed it myself.
[00:16] <acicula> pen16: why?
[00:16] <sebsebseb> Andorin: ok that's what I thought
[00:16] <pen16> i just wanna make music :(
[00:16] <acicula> jackal: is for professional stuff
[00:16] <acicula> err pen16
[00:16] <mick__> pen16 see my last post :)
[00:16] <acicula> *jack is
[00:16] <cegorach> acicula: damn... the files i need to transfer are too big for a zip file, and my install doesn't seem to want to cooperate with openrar
[00:17] <sebsebseb> Andorin: ok what you installed probably works in  the other Firefox, tried that?
[00:17] <pen16> on windows there's like 2 ways of sound working and every program supports both of them :)
[00:17] <Pici> pen16: Take a look at the audio section here for a list of music production applications in Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
[00:17] <acicula> cegorach: you can split archives with rar
[00:17] <sebsebseb> Andorin: if you would have to install Flash yourself,  and make sure it's in the plugins folder for Firefox 3.6, or something like this
[00:17] <pen16> Pici: That list is very mainstream
[00:17] <pen16> I use trackers and stuff
[00:18] <pen16> things not on the list
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Andorin: I think you would... above  (I don't like when I type the wrong words)
[00:18] <cegorach> acicula: but when i transfer it to my ubuntu box, the archive opens, but i cant get any of the files to extract from the archive
[00:18] <Andorin> sebsebseb: Yes, Flash works in Firefox 3.5. I guess I can poke around and see whether it installed correctly for 3.6.
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Andorin: right that's what I am getting at
[00:18] <pen16> I'm curious though, is PulseAudio set to become the standard, "for reals this time!" ?
[00:18] <pen16> like really
[00:19] <pen16> or is there a new project set to replace it already  :X :X
[00:19] <sebsebseb> Andorin: what you installed, is  probably only really for  Firefox 3.5  and  other browsers that use the same Flash  that you can get from the repo such as  Galeon and  Epiphany (sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser  just epiphany and a game gets installed)
[00:20] <Andorin> sebsebseb: Yeah, I know about Epiphany... I suppose I just figured that my Flash version would be compatible with the new Firefox by default.
[00:21] <sebsebseb> pen16: pulseaudio has been the default since Ubuntu 8.04
[00:21] <pen16> is it gonna stay though, long term?
[00:21] <sebsebseb> pen16: it's also the default  for many other distros now as well
[00:21] <pen16> 10 years?
[00:21] <pen16> what is the Linux equivalent of ASIO?
[00:22] <erdemoztrk> Hi there
[00:22] <sebsebseb> pen16: one of those distros I know pulseaudio can easilly be disabled,  I wonder how that's done in Ubuntu
[00:22] <erUSUL> pen16: you use jack instead of PA for professional audio and the -rt kernel
[00:23] <pen16> erUSUL: what's minimum latency?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Andorin: by the way why did you want to get the other Firefox?
[00:23] <Schui> so i have a question, not really a problem. i remember hearing about people installing games to their external hard drive and then playing off there instead of using up system resources, i wonder if you could do the same in linux?
[00:24] <chilli0> Hello . I tryed to install any program but get this http://pastebin.com/m205befee Please help
[00:24] <erUSUL> pen16: that i dunno maybe you should ask in #ubuntustudio or other more specialized audio on linux forum
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Schui: sure, but  playing a game from an external hard drive,  I think might mean it will be a bit slower,  whatever OS is being run
[00:24] <erdemoztrk> Can somebody help me to install BitTorrent-5.3-GPL from its souce code?
[00:24] <Andorin> sebsebseb: No particular reason... just wanted to try it out, and stick with it if it worked.
[00:25] <Schui> seb - yeah, it might be slow unless you used usb2.0 or something
[00:25] <erdemoztrk> Can somebody help me to install BitTorrent-5.3-GPL from its souce code
[00:26] <Black_Phantom> I have heard that Ubuntu 10.04 will be on a DVD only, is that true ?
[00:26] <erUSUL> Black_Phantom: no
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Andorin: right, but it probably doesn't offer that much advantage from 3.5, and the next Ubuntu Desktop version will have 3.6 or later by default
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom: no
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom: something about how Kubuntu only fits on a DVD at the moment or something like that, anyway #ubuntu+1 for Lucid stuff
[00:27] <Schui> so do you think you could install windows games to an external and play them on linux?
[00:27] <Black_Phantom> oh ok
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Schui: Windows games oh right
[00:27] <gui7> does grub2 correctly recognize windows7?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Schui: that's good in a way,  means you woudn't have to  put partitiosn such as /usr or whever native Linux programs get installed, onto your external hard disk
[00:27] <chilli0> Hello . I tryed to install any program but get this http://pastebin.com/m205befee Please help
[00:28] <sebsebseb> gui7: should do yes
[00:28] <Schui> sebsebseb, do you think it would work? like you could play the games off the external even though they are for windows?
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Schui: you would run Windows games, in  Wine, or commercial versions of it,  or  a Windows virtual machine
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Schui: quite a lot of these games will work quite well  in Wine, but quite a lot won't work well in Wine, or well they will  after you configured a bit
[00:29] <sebsebseb> Schui: ,but configuring isn't easy
[00:29] <Schui> yeah i tried to install ut2004, it was too much of a pain so i gave up
[00:29] <DaZ> isn't ut2k4 for linux?
[00:29] <sebsebseb> Schui: by default Wine puts it's hidden .wine folder in  Home
[00:29] <DaZ> >:
[00:30] <Schui> yeah daz, but i couldnt get sound to work
[00:30] <Schui> seb, i will have to try this :)
[00:30] <acicula> sebsebseb: gstreamer-properties lets you change whats used by gnome
[00:30] <chilli0> Hello . I tryed to install any program but get this http://pastebin.com/m205befee Please help
[00:30] <DaZ> Schui: echo $SDL_AUDIODRIVER
[00:31] <acicula> Schui: external disks work, but USB limits transfer speed significantly
[00:31] <sebsebseb> Schui:  the .wine folder you should be able to use from an external hard disk, as far as I know.   I think you would just then have to tell wine config where  .wine is located.  and point any wine program shorcuts to your external hard disk, or something like this.   Anyway #winehq  is a good channel to be asking Wine questions.
[00:31] <googleit> ok so my bluetooth doesnt work
[00:31] <wolter> googleit
[00:31] <googleit> bluez wont read my adapter
[00:31] <sebsebseb> Schui: plus you can open wine programs up  using the terminal
[00:31] <googleit> blueman doesnt resolve the problem
[00:32] <grendal_prime> is anyone having a problem with 910 just freezing?
[00:32] <grendal_prime> im wondering if it has anything to do with ext4
[00:32] <acicula> googleit: is there a hci device? check with hciconfig
[00:32] <mick__> not for me on intel hardware
[00:32] <mick__> in fact 910 best for my laptop since 704
[00:32] <googleit> i have logitech
[00:32] <sebsebseb> acicula: oh right pen16  wants to know that
[00:32] <googleit> 2.0 edr
[00:33] <Jasonrj> I tried the Ubuntu live CD, then I rebooted into Win7 again and now my clock is 4 hours off. Also, while booting it did a checkdisk for some reason and had probably a few hundred errors that it fixed no problem.. IS that normal?
[00:33] <googleit> my usb is reading it
[00:33] <grendal_prime> ya this would be intel, 32bit, laptop.  It was running 804 with no problems.
[00:33] <mick__> what timezone was the cd using?
[00:34] <grendal_prime> but if i fire up anthing that requires any hd access on a large scale it freezes
[00:34] <mick__> grendal:: initially yes, but then after about a month they got the xserver sorted properly
[00:34] <Jasonrj> I don't know, it didn't ask me for a time-zone, I didn't notice the clock was messed up though until I rebooted.
[00:34] <mick__> for this reason I am going to be very very very very slow to upgrade to 10.04
[00:34] <erUSUL> chilli0: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:35] <erUSUL> chilli0: run the command the error told you to run
[00:35] <chilli0> erUSUL, Did you read the pb ?
[00:35] <mick__> sounds like it could be a heating problem
[00:35] <chilli0> I ran it
[00:35] <mick__> i get that when i used it on the duvet too from time to time :)
[00:36] <chilli0> erUSUL, Line 9
[00:36] <erUSUL> chilli0: ok; tried purging the problematic pavkage?
[00:36] <mick__> grendal::  or your hard disk could be dying, have you tried running a giagnostic?
[00:36] <erUSUL> chilli0: the kernel in that case?
[00:36] <grendal_prime> mick__: well i just downloaded this iso the other night, and there were no more updates to it, so Is it possible to just install on ext3
[00:36] <chilli0> erUSUL,  Its any packeges
[00:36] <googleit> acicula how do i use hciconfig
[00:37] <chilli0> erUSUL,  Ill reinstall ubuntu
[00:37] <googleit> to activate my bluetooth
[00:37] <erUSUL> chilli0: no is linux-image-2.6.31-16-generic
[00:37] <mick__> yes it is
[00:37] <DaZ> grendal_prime: filesystem doesn't usually freeze an operating system.
[00:37] <acicula> googleit: you type it in a console
[00:37] <googleit> ha thanks i figured that part
[00:37] <erUSUL> chilli0: try this first « sudo apt-get clean && sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:37] <googleit> but i reset or restart it and i get it cant open device
[00:38] <acicula> googleit: means no driver loaded
[00:38] <chilli0> erUSUL,  If I have /home on a seperate partion and only format / will I lose all emails
[00:38] <mick__> best wishes to all time for me to call it a night at almost 1am here
[00:38] <googleit> ah
[00:38] <erUSUL> chilli0: evolution?
[00:38] <chilli0> Yepp
[00:38] <mazda01> trying to set dvd drive to pio mode so i can flash the firmware to make sure the drive is dead and not just incompatible media. anyone know how to help. I cam getting this error: hdparm -d /dev/hda
[00:39] <mazda01> HDIO_SET_PIO_MODE failed: Operation not permitted
[00:39] <erUSUL> mazda01: are you sure the dvd drive is /dev/hda?
[00:39] <mazda01> erUSUL, no, that was a mistake. the drive is /dev/sg0
[00:40] <chilli0> erUSUL,  Yes
[00:40] <erUSUL> mazda01:  /dev/sr0 ?
[00:41] <erUSUL> chilli0: no it shoud be all in your home. you can make a backup there is an option in File menu to do it
[00:41] <mazda01> erUSUL, yes, i tried all of the above. /dev/scd0, /dev/sg0, /dev/sr0, and /dev/dvd, and /dev/dvdrw
[00:41] <erUSUL> mazda01: hdparm does not work on libata devices afaik
[00:41] <mazda01> erUSUL, all say the same thing
[00:41] <erUSUL> mazda01: you will have to use a kernel option i think
[00:41] <mazda01> erUSUL, huh? since when. I have set the dma mode on my drives and that worked fine.
[00:42] <mazda01> erUSUL, using hdparm
[00:42] <erUSUL> mazda01: since the change to libata
[00:42] <erUSUL> !libata
[00:43] <neil_d> mazda01: are you running hdparm as root?
[00:43] <mazda01> erUSUL, really, how stupid. why did they go and do that? you mean that hdparm just has been updated to work with the new libata driver? yes, running as rooty
[00:43] <mazda01> rooty = root
[00:43] <saxofoner> Hi everyone. I was trying to fix sound on my new 9.10 install, and I installed linux backports alsa karmic generic, and when I rebooted, I was stuck in low graphics mode. Then my graphics card started overheating. I've always run the nvidia drivers just fine. I would normally reconfigure xconfig but that's not there anymore, so I'll try anything
[00:44] <neil_d> mazda01: if you do "ls /dev/hda*" do you see all the partitions?
[00:45] <mazda01> neil_d, i don't even have any "hda" drives, only "sda"
[00:46] <Random832> i got gnome-shell - is there any way to add applets to it - i've got battery, volume, and wireless, but none of my other icons
[00:46] <mazda01> neil_d, if I issue  ls /dev/sda* and yes. i see all my partitions. but I am trying to solve the pio mode for a dvd drive. so I can flash the firmware
[00:48] <erUSUL> mazda01: the parameter is libata.force=<device>:pio<number>   where device is number in my case « dmesg | grep ATAPI » gives ata6.00: ATAPI: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, 1.01, max UDMA/33 so the number is 6.00 then pio can be pio0 to pio7
[00:48] <erUSUL> mazda01: so "libata.force=6.00:pio7" for example
[00:49] <erUSUL> mazda01: but the question is... do you have the firmware flasher for linux ?
[00:50] <erUSUL> saxofoner: maybe you just need to reinstall the drivers ?
[00:52] <neil_d> mazda01: when I tried to run hdparm on my dvd with "hdparm /dev/sr0" It gave an error of "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" so maybe hdparm doesn't work on cdrom etc.
[00:52] <saxofoner> erUSUL: I suppose I'll try dpkg reconfigure, and then I'll reinstall nvidia drivers. but why would installing sound backport drivers mess up my graphics
[00:52] <saxofoner> rhetorical question of course
[00:52] <mordof> ok, this is one thing i'm not used to struggling with.  I installed 9.10 on a computer of mine (older comp), there's no xorg.conf, and dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg has no effect.. i can't find how to tell it to use 1280x768 resolution..
[00:53] <mordof> I made an xorg.conf with the monitor/screen in it with that, but it didn't take
[00:53] <saxofoner> mordof: xorg.conf is gone forever, sadly
[00:53] <mordof> ; ; ok.. so what do i do instead?
[00:54] <Ademan> saxofoner: what? xorg.conf is OPTIONAL last i heard...
[00:54] <Kevin147> I have a Dell Inspiron and I just installed Ubuntu on it. I am using a laptop, it runs great! But one problem, the built in mic does not work... I am pretty good in Ubuntu, but I could not seem to get it to work... Please help!!!!
[00:55] <mordof> i went to x.org, and it showed that it looks for the xorg.conf in that area
[00:55] <mordof> so my guess is it's still optional
[00:56] <saxofoner> Oh really? Cool, I remember trying to do something that I thought I knew how to do and not being able to do it the old way through xorg. Maybe it's still there for certain things
[00:56] <mordof> i don't know any other means to configure my monitor though
[00:57] <psvasti> how do i check for viruses?  i tried to log on to undernet and it g-lined me saying i was infected
[00:57] <daftykins> psvasti: it was probably just a joke.
[00:58] <psvasti> no no, it happened nearly instantly
[00:58] <neil_d> mordof: I use the menu "System->Preferences->Display"
[00:58] <tal> I'm running xmonad and need to change my gdm theme and my gtk theme, how can I initiate these programs from the commsnd line?
[00:58] <mordof> neil_d: that doesn't work, it's not recognizing the resolution size
[00:58] <daftykins> psvasti: keep reconnecting 'til you get a different server
[00:59] <psvasti> AUTO [1] Infected with a virus or trojan, please clean your system. Cleaner @ http://www.moosoft.com (P321).
[00:59] <mordof> neil_d: i need to force it to use 1280x768, right now it's only letting me use 800x600 and 640x480
[00:59] <ChibaPet> Hey all. Quick question: Is there a way for me to enable a hardware bell instead of having a sound file played for my terminal bell, say, in Gnome Terminal?
[00:59] <neil_d> psvasti: all web-bassed virus checks are invalid.. and try to get you to install spyware.
[00:59] <Kevin147> I have a Dell Inspiron and I just installed Ubuntu on it. I am using a laptop, it runs great! But one problem, the built in mic does not work... I am pretty good in Ubuntu, but I could not seem to get it to work... Please help!!!!
[00:59] <psvasti> different server, same message
[01:00] <IAmEpic>
[01:00] <ChibaPet> (I want to let the system beep at me several times in a row, but the soundfile-based beeps all seem somewhat "rate limited".)
[01:00] <Trek>
[01:00] <Flare-Laptop> Trek: o.O
[01:00] <Trek> wow, sorry, i accidentially hit the spacebar
[01:00] <tal> Any ideas?
[01:00] <ChibaPet> Anyone have clues for me? :)
[01:00] <Trek> i'm messing with my hardware, makes it hard when I bump the keyboard
[01:00] <Flare-Laptop> Trek: Ahh ok
[01:01] <Flare-Laptop> Kevin147: We'll help ya
[01:01] <mordof> Anyone able to help me get ubuntu to recognize (or force it) the resolution 1280x768?
[01:01] <Kevin147> Flare-Laptop, ok
[01:01] <neil_d> mordof: what type of video card do you have?
[01:01] <daftykins> and what driver is currently in use? ^
[01:01] <mordof> neil_d: i don't know. it's a computer i was given. i'm not sure what video card driver is installed in the tower either >.<;
[01:02] <ChibaPet> Alright, back to Google.
[01:02] <mordof> neil_d: it's onboard.. nothing worthy of trying for any good drivers
[01:02]  * mordof checks the motherboard.
[01:03] <afroman> hello. I  have installed the alsa upgrade script now nothing works.
[01:03] <neil_d> mordof: can you find it in the output of "lspci"
[01:04] <mordof> neil_d: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[01:04] <daftykins> erk intel 845G
[01:05] <mordof> daftykins: don't worry, i'm setting it up for my dad - simple office use, lol
[01:05] <daftykins> nah i just have no idea if you could get that to do anything sensible with karmic
[01:05] <mordof> daftykins: surely it's still possible to force a resolution though..
[01:06] <mordof> at least i'm hoping.. lol
[01:06] <daftykins> mordof: i'm sure it is with manual xorg.conf hax, with modelines and some such
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> mordof:  for many nvidia cards ive had - i HAVE to use teh nvidia drivers for it to properly detect the res of the monitors
[01:07] <mordof> Dr_Willis: you don't have to properly detect the resolution of monitors..
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> mordof:   but with intel - most of those are built in.
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> mordof:  with many of my Nvidia machines. they use the wrong res. I install the nvidia drivers and they detect teh res properly. its been this way for at least 5 machines ive worked with in the past.
[01:07] <tal> I'm running xmonad and need to change my gdm theme and my gtk theme, how can I initiate these programs from the commsnd line?
[01:08] <tal> I.e. what are their names?
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> mordof:  you may want to check the Intel video wiki page/forum threads.
[01:08] <neil_d> mordof: don't know what to do now... sorry!  maybe you search for the chipset number and find out something.
[01:08] <mordof> Dr_Willis: i'm going to google it.. but again, you don't need it to detect the resolution itself - that's what xorg.conf is for
[01:09] <daftykins> you do for nvidia hardware because then it detects the *precise* mode
[01:09] <mazda01> erUSUL, yes I do, people have written it. it's called necflash
[01:09] <daftykins> just resolution isn't enough
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> mordof:   ive not had to have res information in xorg.conf in ages.
[01:09] <mordof> ah
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> tal:  try   gnome-appearance-properties
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> tal:  what version of ubuntu you using anyway>
[01:11] <tal> Dr_Willis, it's based (very deep  down now ;)) on 9.04
[01:11] <doofy> I just installed ubuntu on a partition of my macbook pro. I have refit on here and I have rescanned the partition table, but ubuntu isnt showing up. How can I get this to boot?
[01:12] <Adman65> I'm using ubuntu server, I created a new user using useradd but now that use has no bash completion
[01:12] <tal> Dr_Willis, I don;t have that =/
[01:12] <Sky[x]> how to turn monitor ON over SSH without X, keyboard, mouse ?
[01:12] <tal> I just need the program that edits the GDM settings
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> tal:  No idea then. thats the tool that contriolls the gnome themes.   gdm in 9.10 is different so i dont know the tool name for that.
[01:13] <DARKGuy> hm, is there any IRC console program which allows the channels to be switched with the mouse when under X?
[01:13] <tal> Dr_Willis, Damn. ah well, thanks a lot!
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> tal:  install 'ubuntu-desktop' perhaps it will pull it in.
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> !gdm
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> tal:  or check the repos for a gdm specific config tool.
[01:15] <Adman65> hmm, any reason why /etc/skel is empty ?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  check for .Files withs ls -al
[01:15] <mordof> this is so not going to be fun...
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  i only have 4 files in it here.
[01:15] <nonameNN> Adman65: why would it be full of files?
[01:16] <mtx_init> i had a freind in hs named tal
[01:16] <Adman65> Forgot they were .files
[01:16] <Adman65> carry on
[01:16] <neil_d> I am currently downloading 9.10 but why does this stop firefox working?  shouldn't the packet from wget and firefox have the same priority in the tcp stack?
[01:17] <Adman65> hmm, new user can't find `source` command prompt is only a $
[01:17] <mtx_init> neil_d: wget is usually faster, given its smaller size
[01:18] <mordof> oh great, the patch needed to allow 1280x768 came up with a 404 -.-;
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> what shell are you using? source is a bash built in i thought or do . whateverscript
[01:18] <Adman65> Dr_Willis: bash
[01:18] <Kamokow> I was installing another language, through language support. And it uninstalled edubuntu-desktop from my ubuntu 9.10 install. Is this normal? I didnt think so D:
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  its a bash built in. so either theres somthing very weird going on.. or bash is not the shell.. check echo $SHELL
[01:20] <tal> Dr_Willis, I never had gnome - I had openbox, now I'm removing it in favour or xnomad
[01:20] <tal> mtx_init, My full name is Taliesen
[01:20] <Adman65> Dr_Willis: doh. /bin/sh
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> tal:   thats the problem wih doing things like that. You have to learn how all these parts work
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  :)
[01:21] <Adman65> i guess you have to explicity set it with useradd
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> i always use adduser :)
[01:21] <neil_d> mtx_init: so what difference should that make.. how could that stop firefox?
[01:21] <Adman65> Dr_Willis: is that a debian thing ?
[01:21] <mtx_init> tal: oh ok, tal is a Israeli girls name.  I think it means the morning dew on a leaf.
[01:22] <Kamokow> Oh, nevermind my previous question, it was my fault.
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  never noticed.. ive used adduser for years..
[01:22] <mtx_init> neil_d: something is wrong with firefox, possible sudo apt-get remove firefox, then purge and reinstall
[01:22] <Adman65> Dr_Willis: *shrug*, I've always used useradd
[01:24] <tal> mtx_init, Haha, I'm british =)
[01:24] <objorn> how do i enable ctl-alt-backspace?
[01:24] <gabriel__> Hey all, how do you install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on an existing 9.10 installation?
[01:24] <objorn> !ctl-alt-backspace
[01:25] <zagabar> Okay, I had some problems with my ICS. I am trying to share internet to my network from my ubuntu server. I also use it as a mail server. I used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing    After making these commands: http://pastebin.com/m380851ae I cannot log in to squirrelmail nor with firebird anymore. It says "User not found" or "connection refused". Its ports are still ope
[01:26] <arand> objorn: You can use alt+sysreq+k instead
[01:26] <arand> !dontzap | objorn
[01:27] <gabriel__> Hey all, how do you install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on an existing 9.10 installation?
[01:28] <meganerd> zagabar: is your lan on the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network?
[01:28] <neil_d> arand: do you know why it was disabled in the first place?  I found it useful
[01:28] <MTecknology> Anybody know how I can allow root login through gdm from the command line?
[01:28] <DaZ> MTecknology: by editing gdm config files.
[01:28] <kc8pxy> i am i'm trying to use minicom to access my cisco router via console. it doesn't seem to like me trying to use it with /dev/ttyS0 ..   how else do i acceess the comport?
[01:29] <MTecknology> DaZ: which file though?
[01:29] <DaZ> eh :f
[01:29] <MTecknology> Backtrack is based on Ubuntu now and I don't want to create an additional user for that purpose - since half the tools need to be run as root anyway..
[01:29] <zagabar> meganerd: I don't have a lan yet. That's what I was trying to configure. And I was aiming to have it on that network yes.
[01:29] <kc8pxy> on my hardy system that is
[01:30] <neil_d> MTecknology: I think all you need to do is give root a password... using "passwd".. but it is dangerous.. you can use "sudo -i" to get a root terminal.
[01:30] <meganerd> zagabar: are those the only 3 rules you have?
[01:30] <arand> neil_d: because it was too easily reachable and would loose an unsuspecting user all open data.
[01:30] <DaZ> neil_d: and you're wrong.
[01:31] <MTecknology> neil_d: read the note about backtrack :)
[01:31] <MTecknology> DaZ: I found one option for it, AllowRootLogin; but that didn't change it.. I'll just add a user for it
[01:32] <neil_d> DaZ: about what?
[01:32]  * kc8pxy needs to RTFM more often for ubuntu..  it's simpler for the user that expects a lego-like system. put the right blocks in place and it works.
[01:32] <DaZ> neil_d: logging in as root in gdm needs a little more effort.
[01:32] <wolter> k
[01:32] <kc8pxy> you just need to know what blocks are for what.
[01:33] <zagabar> meganerd: No, I have these too: http://pastebin.com/m5f0b147d  Those nat rules
[01:33] <neil_d> DaZ: ok
[01:33] <wolter> hi, sometimes after i wake up my computer from suspend, Xorg starts using like 17% of the processor.. what could be happening?
[01:34] <MTecknology> neil_d: not something the normal system should EVER do - but in the case of a system like this it's basically mandatory
[01:36] <zagabar> http://pastebin.com/m5f0b147d How can I remove these POSTROUTING rules?
[01:36] <meganerd> zagabar: I am about to head home now, so I can't really look at this further.  You may want to look at fwbuilder on a GUI machine, and then check out the rules it makes.
[01:36] <almostdvs> so, I'm upgrading my friends kubuntu installation, and on restart it says it cant find something and drops to a shell, can anyone help?
[01:36] <zagabar> meganerd: Okay. Thanks anyway.
[01:36] <meganerd> zagabar: I have never looked at that Ubuntu internet connection sharing script so I can't really comment on that
[01:37] <meganerd> zagabar: to be honest I have been writing my own rules from scratch for a while.  An easier connection sharing approach might be to install Arno's iptables scripts, a few of my friends seem to like it
[01:40] <neil_d> if I use a raid1 setup.. once grub is configured correctly.. I should be able to turn the computer off, remove any drive, and have it still boot correctly?
[01:40] <zagabar> meganerd: I see. That might be a good starter to get some understanding. However I have no problems getting the ICS to work, the problem is that when it is active, it somehow disables the mail service programs.
[01:41] <syrius> how do I share a cd/dvd drive over network?
[01:41] <wolter> Xorg is using up like 20% of my processor, what could it be?
[01:41] <objorn> how can i restore the default xorg.config?
[01:41] <objorn> or have it reconfigured?
[01:41] <syrius> maybe 3d graphics or not very good graphics card maybe
[01:42] <syrius> try turning off 3d desktop acceleration wolter
[01:42] <wolter> syrius, it uses more, like 40% if i do that
[01:42] <wolter> (cause GPU is handling my desktop with compiz... with metacity it will be my CPU)
[01:42] <wolter> but anyway, this only happens after i wake my computer up from suspend
[01:43] <wolter> normally, how much cpu should Xorg use?
[01:45] <objorn> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is what i was looking for
[01:46] <TheMozart> objorn: yes
[01:46] <objorn> ty internet
[01:49] <zagabar> Anyone knows how to delete the POSTROUTING rules here? http://pastebin.com/m5f0b147d
[01:50] <meowbuntu> hi i am wanting to know if there are valid kubuntu and studio repos i can add to my ubuntu install.
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> I thought everything in 'ubuntu-studio' came from  the normal repos. and perhaps medibuntu
[01:51] <nukeslion> hello, i have updated my video driver to the latest nvidia one because the last one wasn't working properly, now my sound devices are not appearing
[01:51] <Maczimus> kubuntu-desktop has the kubuntu packages
[01:51] <objorn> i can't sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[01:52] <melfy> there a disk free space panel item for ubuntu for external drives etc?
[01:52] <objorn> xorg-server isn't an option :\
[01:52]  * nukeslion goes to try rebooting
[01:54] <Ziber> Alright, so I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 server. No matter what I do, I cant seem to get internet. I *know* my router gives out DHCP, but my box cant see to get it. And I know its physically connected properly because I had windows xp pro installed, which worked fine, with internet. Any ideas?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  state the connection type. Wired or wireless..
[01:54] <Ziber> wired
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> that is odd.
[01:54] <Ziber> indeed.
[01:55] <mobi-sheep> Ziber: Pastebin "lshw -c network"
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> try 'sudo dhclient' and see if it grabs the ip. try pinging the router also.
[01:55] <Ziber> lshw -c network returned nothing. and i cant ping the router.
[01:55] <chetnick> my grub menu is filling up with every new version of kernel. I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 which uses new GRUB2. How do i get rid of all this entries? Thanks.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  has any live cd's worked with networking?
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> double check the cables also. :) had the dog chew one up on me..
[01:56] <Ziber> uhm, i tried one, and no, i dont recall it working.
[01:56] <mobi-sheep> Ziber: "lshw -c network" return nothing? Meh. It don't see the network card if you're saying that.
[01:56] <Ziber> yes, it returned nothing.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  that is very very odd then, Hmm any idea what NIC you got?
[01:57] <unop> chetnick, remove the old kernel packages?? only after you are sure the new one works well for you -- that's importasnt
[01:57] <millertimek1a2m3> there was an old mouse game that I used to play on the computer (windows) you started off inside a bunch of squares that you could push, and there were cats on the outside
[01:57] <unop> important*
[01:57] <millertimek1a2m3> ah crap off topic
[01:57] <Ziber> no, not off hand, no. "lshw" returned an "ethernet device" tho. so it sees it... :o
[01:57] <chetnick> unop: remove from /boot ? and run update-grub?
[01:57] <millertimek1a2m3> where's the off topic channel again?
[01:57] <onetinsoldier> #ubuntu-ot
[01:57] <unop> chetnick, no, remove from your package manager. synaptic or apt-get, etc
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  could be theres some kernel module youi need to load. How old is this machine?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> millertimek1a2m3:  ive played tjhat game in wine i recall. :) but i forget its name
[01:58] <Ziber> Dr_Willis: the machine is about 2 years old, i think. maybe a bit more...
[01:58] <millertimek1a2m3> Dr_Willis: you know what i'm talking about?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  see if dmesg output mentions the network cards at all. i had a Marvell NIC that the kernel dident like too well
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> if windows was handy - it may be usefull to boot back to windows and sewe what drivers/name it calls the card.
[02:01] <psycho_oreos> marvell has their own driver however, named skg
[02:01] <gmachine_24> Greetings Earthlings, esp. Dr_Willis. When I run fsck on a hard drive identified with a UUID, do I specify the (unmounted) drive/partition by a path such as /media/drivename or by its UUID? I attempted with the path, i.e. fsck /media/100GB but got: fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=xxxxx'
[02:01] <objorn> need help dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work :\
[02:02] <objorn> it just goes to the next line
[02:02] <objorn> ..when i type that in
[02:02] <afroman> how do I get back sound preferences? I don't see it in Sys-->preference
[02:03] <Ziber> Dr_Willis: what can i search for in /var/log/dmesg to see if it found NIC?
[02:03] <syrius> is this safe to use? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> dmesg | grep PATTERN
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  not sure what pattern to sue
[02:04] <syrius> apt-get install brain
[02:04] <frederick85> hi i'm wondering how I can get some effects to add reverb to my mic playing live over skype or something
[02:04] <syrius> apt-get install HDtv
[02:04] <Out_Cold> !info brain > Out_Cold
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> syrius:  that guide does seem to be 3 yrs old
[02:04] <syrius> apt-get install $$$$
[02:04] <gmachine_24> Ok, so I realized that, since the drive/partition is not mounted, /media/xxxdrivename is not going to work.
[02:04] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, if you want to find your NIC use "lspci | grep -i network"
[02:04] <gmachine_24> any help?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> syrius:  but the basics of it are the same. You may want to backup the origianl samba smb.cfg file  befor doing major changes to it
[02:05] <almostdvs> so I'm upgrading my friends ubuntu and on restart i'm told that it can't find the root and it drops to an initrd shell  can anyone help?
[02:05] <Ziber> "lspci | grep -i network" returned nothing.
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  Mount the drive?
[02:05] <meowbuntu> hi i am wanting to know if there are valid kubuntu and studio repos i can add to my ubuntu install.
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  you fsck UNMOUNTED filesystems
[02:05] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, that's always a problem with the forums... I still find fixes for 6.04
[02:06] <Ziber> with lspci, i see "bridge: ... ethernet" tho
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, just to double check try "lspci | grep -i Ethernet"
[02:06] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis - I know. That's what I said.
[02:06] <afroman> anybody? how do I get back sound preferences? I don't see it in Sys-->preference
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  fsck /dev/wghatever
[02:06] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: that found it.
[02:06] <mobi-sheep> afroman: at least, is gnome-volume-control installed?
[02:07] <Ziber> 00:11.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
[02:07] <afroman> mobi-sheep: no, I don't think so
[02:08] <mazda01> tried to enable the libata.force parameter for setting pio mode but it didnt' work. erUSUL suggested i try this: libata.force=1.00:pio7   where 1.00 is the ata number of the dvd drive after running dmesg | grep ATAPI. I get this: ata1.00: ATAPI: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7170A, 1.02, max UDMA/66. BUT, when I look at dmesg after booting up, i see this; ata: failed to parse force parameter "1" (unknown value)
[02:08] <mobi-sheep> afroman: You're not sure? What does the line say for "aptitude search gnome-volume-control"?
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, i'm no help to you BUT - typically you'd see "00:00:00 Ethernet controller: blah blah blah..." have any idea why it says Bridge?
[02:09] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: no, i dont.
[02:09] <mobi-sheep> afroman: Err, hold on.
[02:09] <millertimek1a2m3> hey i just downloaded a jar fiel
[02:09] <millertimek1a2m3> file** how do i run it?
[02:09] <millertimek1a2m3> double clicking it only opens up the archive manager
[02:09] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis, yes, I did that. I get the same error msg each time - "The superblock could not be read ... " etc. tried alternative e2fsck -b 8193 <device> and that failed as well.
[02:09] <meowbuntu> anyone know if i can add the full kubuntu repo and the full studio repo to my installed ubuntu os
[02:09] <Blue1> what a hassle...
[02:09] <gmachine_24> I will restart the comp and try again.
[02:09] <millertimek1a2m3> never mind
[02:09] <gmachine_24> Thank you.
[02:09] <Out_Cold> Has anyone locked down their nfs 'status' port while attempting nfs firewall rules? Or does anyone have an active /etc/init.d/nfs-commons script running??
[02:10] <Out_Cold> ** scrtipt in 9.10
[02:10] <mobi-sheep> afroman: Try running "gnome-volume-control" in the terminal.
[02:11] <meowbuntu> mobi-sheep, he would be better to run alsamixer right
[02:11] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, this was from a very old post but might still be worth a try http://paste.ubuntu.com/360983/
[02:11] <meowbuntu> mobi-sheep, or he could install gnome-alsamixer (frount end for alsamixer which is better)
[02:11] <mobi-sheep> meowbuntu: Not at all. He have no sound issues. Just missing few things from menus.
[02:12] <afroman> mobi-sheep: it's there
[02:12] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I haven't found a solution yet by the way :-D
[02:12] <afroman> meowbuntu: I also did install gnome alsamixer
[02:12] <Out_Cold> CVirus, well i feel better knowing i'm not alone..
[02:13] <meowbuntu> afroman, you have to use gnome-alsamixer as alsamixer now wont work itself
[02:13] <Out_Cold> time for a new paste i guess
[02:13] <mobi-sheep> afroman: Okay. You were doing something that results the disappearance of that menu. You could add it via System --> Prefs --> Main Menu.
[02:13] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I was talking about yesterday's problem
[02:13] <Out_Cold> oh...
[02:13] <Out_Cold> i lose track of those i talk to
[02:13] <CVirus> Out_Cold: XVirus
[02:14] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I want to prevent users from mouting USB flash disks using nautilus's side pane
[02:14] <meowbuntu> anyone know if i can add the full kubuntu repo and the full studio repo to my installed ubuntu os
[02:14] <zagabar> Can someone please explain the meaning of this rule: sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE
[02:14] <Out_Cold> CVirus, unless i scanned the logs, i couldn't even remember my name yesterday :(
[02:14] <maco> meowbuntu: ther IS NO kubuntu repo separate from ubuntu's repo
[02:14] <CVirus> Out_Cold: it's okay :-D
[02:14] <maco> meowbuntu: there is simply a kubuntu-desktop package found in the same repo
[02:15] <maco> meowbuntu: kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, mythbuntu, lubuntu, and ubuntu studio all share the same repos
[02:15] <meowbuntu> mac9416, there is actually i install kubuntu-desktop right
[02:15] <CVirus> Guys, anyone has any clue how can I prevent users from mounting USB flash disks using nautilus side pane ?
[02:15] <meowbuntu> then to add ubuntu studio i would add
[02:15] <maco> meowbuntu: kubuntu-desktop is a package, not a repo. and yes, you should be able to install ubuntu-studio-desktop at the same time
[02:15] <Trebla> is the ATI video card recomended over nvidia?
[02:15] <Out_Cold> zagabar, what's your POSTROUTING rules all say? that takes packets and masquerades them then send them forward to another IP address I think
[02:16] <maco> meowbuntu: if you cannot, then you've found a bug
[02:16] <afroman> meowbuntu: hey. mobi left. do you mind helping me to the end?
[02:16] <meowbuntu> every version has something similar to this right http://ubuntuce.com/convert.htm
[02:16] <Out_Cold> it's amazing how much I've learned about iptables trying to fix my one random port.
[02:16] <zagabar> Out_Cold: Another ip? What ip? That is the only rule.  The thing with that rule is when I am adding it. Then I cannot use my services that are used for checking mail. Like squirrelmail or thunderbird.
[02:17] <Out_Cold> zagabar, are you adding it by yourself??
[02:17] <almostdvs> so I'm upgrading my friends kubuntu and on restart i'm told that it can't find the root and it drops to an initrd shell  can anyone help?
[02:18] <zagabar> Out_Cold: Yeah, I am just pasting that line in a terminal and pressing enter.
[02:18] <frederick85> Hi i'm trying to figure out if there is a way to add sound effect to my microphone to use on skype and things like that that take the mic
[02:18] <zagabar> Out_Cold: Then squirrelmail starts failing
[02:18] <Out_Cold> zagabar, what are you trying to do? have a link?
[02:18] <meowbuntu> afroman, with what
[02:19] <afroman> meowbuntu: sound. I still can't find it in the main menu. however I see Multimedia System selector
[02:19] <Majora> How do I resize partitions? I was told to use gparted but I can't figure out how to actually use it. ._.;
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> Trebla, No NO and NO!  I'd avoid ATI if I where you
[02:19] <zagabar> Out_Cold: Following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing   My server has eth0 connected to internet and eth1 to other computers and I want to make it share the connection with them. The guide works for that, but it also kills squirrelmail and ability to connect to the server with thunderbird. Other services as ampache and ftp, ssh etc are still intact though.
[02:20] <Out_Cold> Majora, what are you trying to resize? what type? and is it already mounted?
[02:20] <meowbuntu> afroman, i am actually in studio atm so might not get it exactly right
[02:20] <Majora> ext3 part that has ubuntu on it... and I'm gonna say yes?
[02:20] <almostdvs> so I'm upgrading my friends kubuntu and on restart i'm told that it can't find the root and it drops to an initrd shell  can anyone help?
[02:20] <meowbuntu> afroman, open a terminal and type this sound
[02:21] <meowbuntu> that should open up the sound settings
[02:21] <mazda01> can anyone help me set my dvd drive to anyh pio mode so i can flash the firmware using necflash for linux? i have tried libata.force=1.00:pio7  but it didn't work, hdparm -I /dev/sg0 still says drive is in DMA mode and the necflash fails with Error submitting checksum
[02:21] <Majora> Out_Cold: ext3 ubuntu part, already mounted. I just want to make it smaller.
[02:21] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, no "sound" command on my Ubuntu 9.10???
[02:22] <Out_Cold> Majora, unmount it first
[02:22] <meowbuntu> mazda01, maby instaling the restricted extras will work(some countries this may be illegal) in terminal install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:22] <Majora> Out_Cold: how? sorry, I don't usually have to fiddle with ubuntu this much. x.x;
[02:22]  * tiger2wander is away: Away
[02:23] <meowbuntu> mazda01, sorry type this  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:23] <Trek> !away > tiger2wander
[02:23] <syrius> cool
[02:23] <mazda01> meowbuntu, do you even know what you're trying to help me with? sorry, i don't mean to be rude but I am trying to set a libata.force option in the kernel boot line. what does that have to do with restricyed formats at all?
[02:23] <syrius> I see what to do now
[02:23] <Out_Cold> Majora, can you paste me the contents of sudo fdisk -l   and mount    Run both from terminal please
[02:24] <afroman> meowbuntu: it didn't work. check my message
[02:24] <CVirus> How can I prevent users from mounting external USB devices using nautilus side pane ?
[02:24] <Out_Cold> !pastebin > Majora
[02:24] <almostdvs> does ubuntu now delete the old kernels after an update or just clean up the grub menu?
[02:24] <meowbuntu> mazda01, you said you had problems with dvd player right
[02:24] <syrius> so ; and # is a comment that is not run in a conf file?
[02:24] <Majora> Out_Cold: Hmm... wasn't expecting it to be this complicated. I will BRB then while I boot into ubuntu. xD
[02:24] <IdleOne> almostdvs: you have to delete the old kernels yourself
[02:24] <exigraff> question - I have a symlink in /etc/network/if-up.d, pointing to a script that authenticates me to my uni's network. the script runs on ifup if there's a gdm session open, but not on ifup when the machine boots. any ideas?
[02:25] <Out_Cold> CVirus, you said you used mtab for your script?
[02:25] <mazda01> meowbuntu-afk, i am trying to flash the firmware, which has nothing to do with enabling the restricted formats. thanks for trying though
[02:25] <mazda01> brb
[02:25] <almostdvs> IdleOne: can i still boot into the old ones from grub, the upgrade is not going over well
[02:26] <IdleOne> almostdvs: yes, your old kernel should still be in the grub menu
[02:26] <Out_Cold> zagabar, what's the rule directly before that one?
[02:26] <CVirus> Out_Cold: no I didn't but I found an entry there for sdb1
[02:26] <meowbuntu-afk> afroman, just a last minute thing please ask to pm first before doing it its polite
[02:27] <Out_Cold> CVirus, can i see the script?
[02:27] <afroman> meowbuntu-afk: sorry. didn't know
[02:27] <almostdvs> IdleOne: (i'm not in grub now obviously) but the only kernels i saw were for the new upgrade and the recovery mode.  is there an option where i can see more...
[02:27] <CVirus> Out_Cold: sure give me a sec
[02:28] <IdleOne> almostdvs: grub2 or grub?
[02:28] <almostdvs> IdleOne: i'm assuming grub
[02:28] <afroman> meowbuntu-afk: nothing still
[02:28] <almostdvs> IdleOne: this is a friends computer that i was upgradeing
[02:28] <IdleOne> !grub | almostdvs
[02:28] <IdleOne> almostdvs: check the previous links for more info
[02:29] <CVirus> Out_Cold: http://pastebin.com/m7693ffe3 the above is the mount script and the other is the unmount script
[02:29] <afroman> meowbuntu-afk: shall I pm or shall we stay in the main window?
[02:30] <Majora> Out_Cold: What were those terminal commands again?
[02:30] <Out_Cold> Majora, sudo fdisk -l and mount
[02:31] <Out_Cold> CVirus, let me test a few things out and check back
[02:32] <CVirus> Out_Cold: sure
[02:32] <Majora> Out_Cold, http://pastebin.com/d4ed1b13a
[02:33] <cpare> Hello - Can someone help me with an "Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com" error
[02:33] <Out_Cold> Majora, so dev/sda6 you want to shrink how much?
[02:34] <Out_Cold> cpare, try another server
[02:34] <Out_Cold> there is a list option in repositories i think
[02:34] <ZykoticK9> cpare, system / Administration / Software sources -- then change the "download from:" dropdown
[02:35] <Majora> Out_Cold, it is currently about 70 GiB, I want to make it 25.
[02:35] <cpare> Thanks Out_Cold & ZykotickS - trying it now
[02:36] <almostdvs> IdleOne: is that most likely the problem, if I was just trying a normal upgrade and now it can't find root
[02:36] <Out_Cold> Majora, fair enough. now you have to resize while the partition is unmounted. so do you have a live cd/usb?
[02:36] <Majora> no CD, but I have a USB handy... would probably have to download something though
[02:37] <CVirus> Out_Cold: if only I could prevent the devkit daemon from detecting the devices
[02:39] <cpare> Out_Cold - ZykoticK9 - Changing the repository to the master did the trick, Thanks for the suggestion, who would have thought the US Repository would fail like that...
[02:40] <Out_Cold> Majora, yes. it would have been easier if you had originally created a few small partitions and kept one big one for /home or file storage. But default installs make one big / partition. You need to download an iso image and use unetbootin to make. then while using the live usb, /dev/sda6 is unmounted you resize in gparted
[02:40] <Majora> Out_Cold, no CD, have a USB handy. Though nothing on it partition-relevant.
[02:40] <Out_Cold> cpare, probably server overload
[02:41] <meowbuntu-afk>   hi how can i uninstall oss sound again
[02:41] <meowbuntu-afk> afroman, needs to know how to uninstall oss
[02:42] <Majora> Out_Cold, can I just delete the partition and remake another? i.e. would that be easier than editing the existing partition.
[02:43] <Out_Cold> Majora, no not really. resizing means you don't have to re-install everything.
[02:44] <chetnick> resizing can be little tricky, depending on your partition layout.
[02:44] <Out_Cold> chetnick, it's the last partition
[02:46] <wasutton3> is there a way to set up a global proxy toggle so that i can alternate between a proxy and a direct internet connection?
[02:46] <Ziber> So nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?
[02:46] <Out_Cold> Majora, if you resized to 10 gb for ubuntu and made one more partition for files, you could mount it both in windows and ubuntu.
[02:47] <Majora> Out_Cold, Well, I should probably resize the swap partition. in my n00bishness I made it waaaay too huge. c.c
[02:47] <Hinata> Majora: how huge?
[02:48] <Majora> Hinata, like five gigabytes huge.
[02:48]  * Majora QQ's
[02:48] <Out_Cold> well Majora if you were to spend the extra time, then a proper partition plan and a fresh install would do you better
[02:48] <Majora> Like I said, n00b xD
[02:49] <Out_Cold> Majora, a nice starting layout would be 2xram for swap, 8-12 gb for / and whatever else for /home
[02:49] <CVirus> Out_Cold: any clue man ?
[02:49] <Hinata> Majora: I'm not sure how good it is but I've heared at plenty of place that it was "good to have twice as much space in swap than you have of RAM memorie (2gb of swap for 1gm of RAM) now I don't know if it's true though
[02:49] <Out_Cold> CVirus, i need to go find a usb still
[02:50] <CVirus> Out_Cold: if you're living nearby I can pass one by :-p
[02:51] <Ziber> So nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?
[02:52] <Hinata> Out_Cold: where does that 2x ramp = swap come from? I mean... if you have 8gb of ram... the swap shouldn't be used too much right?
[02:52] <Out_Cold> CVirus, i had like 10 of them downstairs but that's 2 flights of stairs. just had to get motivated :p
[02:52] <syrius> how do I restart samb in ubuntu?
[02:52] <Jeruvy> syrius: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:52] <syrius> after I make changes so that it is reconized right away
[02:53] <Out_Cold> syrius, possibly sudo /etc/init.d..... ^^^
[02:53] <afroman> how do I get sound preferences back?
[02:57] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I heard that people who go down stairs to search for flash disks, win prizes
[02:58] <Majora> CVirus, Out_Cold: part of 9.10!
[02:58] <CVirus> hehe
[02:59] <CVirus> Hinata: you use swap for hibernate and suspend
[02:59] <maco> CVirus: not for suspend2ram
[02:59] <CVirus> err
[02:59] <maco> CVirus: s2ram uses well...ram
[02:59] <CVirus> hibernate only
[02:59] <CVirus> yeah .. sorry
[02:59] <Out_Cold> CVirus, hibernate is to disk
[02:59] <CVirus> exactly
[02:59] <Ziber> So nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?
[03:00] <ardchoille> !wireless
[03:00] <Trek> CVirus, swap can also be used if you have multiple virtual machines running on a system at a time (seen it on a client's system once)
[03:00] <cegorach> how can i find the actual mounted location of a mounted disk?
[03:00] <denny> mount
[03:00] <maco> cegorach: just type "mount"
[03:00] <Ziber> ardchoille: not running wireless
[03:00] <CVirus> Trek: I have 3 vm's running right now :-)
[03:01] <ardchoille> Ziber: That was meant for me
[03:01] <Ziber> oh, i thought you were responding to my issue.
[03:01] <cegorach> thanks
[03:02] <wasutton3> i think i might have changed the permissions of /bin/bash how would i go about fixing that?
[03:02] <Out_Cold> geeeez.... no wonder i couldn't mount the usb :o/ i was ssh'd into my server
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> wasutton3:  perms here are --> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-09-14 01:08 /bin/bash.
[03:03] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, "ls -l /bin/bash" should be root:root rwxr-xr-x
[03:03] <wasutton3> Dr_Willis, thanks i found out i had accidentally overwrote it -_- ill have to go hunting
[03:03] <frederick85> does anyone know how I can apply ladspa effects to my microphone without having to record things
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> frederick85:  like make you sound like donald duck on Skype? :)
[03:04] <CVirus> Out_Cold: happens ALL the time :-D
[03:05] <Out_Cold> CVirus, when i've completely dropped to shell i always switch tty's so i notice.. but i use xchat and gnome-terminal atm
[03:07] <CVirus> Out_Cold: why did you fully drop to shell ?
[03:07] <CVirus> I was considering doing so owing to the lack of good DE's or wm's
[03:07] <Out_Cold> CVirus, i do when i'm reading man/usr pages and trying to learn/fix
[03:07] <Einherjar> Question about RAID systems: I had a 2-disc RAID 0 system that I would like to change to a 1-disc non-RAID system with a new OS. I thought it would be possible to just remove one of the drives and boot from the disc, but the system puts out a disc-error warning beep. (bit more to come)
[03:07] <CVirus> but then I decided to use KDE till I finish my own super-awesome DE
[03:08] <Einherjar> When I try to boot to the OS I had, now, after replacing the disc, it comes up with a kernel panic, saying it cannot sync the system. Is there a way to fix this, or to overwrite the old system with the new one?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Ulttra-Spiffy-Desktop :)
[03:09] <ZykoticK9> Einherjar, with RAID 0 half the data is written to one drive and half to the other -- kinda hard to break that up after, no fault tolerance at all...
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Actually Raid-0  is even more Unreleiable isent it.. (i dont use raid any more)
[03:09] <Einherjar> ZykoticK9, so by removing the one drive and trying to boot to a disc, I messed up the system?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> More unrelieable then a single hd. :) i guess ya can say
[03:10] <Einherjar> I'm finding that out, in a way I'd rather not, Dr_Willis.
[03:10] <cegorach> is there a better way to recover files from a bad hdd than dd_rhelp?
[03:10] <ZykoticK9> Einherjar, what do you mean by boot to a disc?  a cdrom should be fine.  but no way to boot from only 1 HD of your RAID0
[03:10] <Edgan> Dr_Willis: you will have to put the drive back in, and use a third source of storage to backup the data to.
[03:10] <Trek> anyone know if there will be any issues with the following hardware with 9.04 Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu.com/361006/
[03:11] <Ziber> So nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?
[03:11] <scunizi> Einherjar: did you make sure the drive was put back in the same position on the motherboard when you replaced it?
[03:11] <Edgan> Dr_Willis: Then you could do a fresh install to one of the original hard drives.
[03:11] <Einherjar> ZykoticK9, I accidentally tried booting to a single drive at first, because my boot order did not include the CD/DVD as the first option.
[03:11] <Trek> Ziber: Because its a bridge and not a controller, you don't have internet.
[03:12] <Ziber> Trek: yes, i got that. how do i fix that?
[03:12] <Trek> Ziber: not sure, usually its a hardware related issue
[03:12] <Einherjar> scunizi, that's the first thing I checked. The cables are all correct, and I've tried switching them, to make sure.
[03:12] <Ziber> :/
[03:12] <iflema> Trek download a live cd of 9.04 and boot it live.....
[03:12] <scunizi> Einherjar: and the boot order is the same?
[03:12] <Einherjar> When I attempt to boot to a live CD, it fails. Doing a memory check turns up a large number of errors.
[03:12] <ziroday> Trek: shouldn't be, however motherboards can be funny
[03:13] <Trek> iflema: i'm asking before I get the hardware (i'm planning the upgrades, don't have the hardware yet)
[03:13] <Einherjar> No, I corrected the boot order, and booting from a CD comes first. When I do, however, it fails, and the memory check turns up errors.
[03:13] <Trek> ziroday: main issue is that its a quad-core and DDR3 ram, not DDR2 and dual core, hence why I asked
[03:13] <scunizi> Einherjar: mem check on the cd or ram?
[03:13] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, did you try what i sent you in a pastbin awhile ago?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/360983/ about rmmod forcedeth etc
[03:13] <Einherjar> scunizi, mem check.
[03:14] <ziroday> Trek: Ubuntu is fully compatible with quad core and DDR3 ram systems, however if it doesn't like the motherboard :)
[03:14] <scunizi> Einherjar: so bad ram... ouch
[03:14] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: no, didnt see it, sorry, will look now
[03:14] <Einherjar> Bad RAM? Even if I had just booted to the normal system right before to backup the files on it?
[03:15] <wasutton3> i have done something extremely stupid. I have overwritten /bin/bash. is there a way for me to recover, and if so, how/
[03:15] <Trek> ziroday: ever hear of Ubuntu not working with Gigabyte boards?
[03:15] <Trek> wasutton3: reinstall the OS
[03:15] <ziroday> Trek: yes
[03:15] <Out_Cold> CVirus, well the first thing i notice with the script is the mkdir /mnt/sdb1 what if it's not sdb1??
[03:15] <wasutton3> Trek: is that the only way?
[03:16] <Trek> wasutton3: only absolute sure way to fix it.  there might be other ways though
[03:16] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: rmmmod supposed to take a bit to finish?
[03:16] <Einherjar> OK. I'll pull out one of the RAM sticks, and if that doesn't work, switch it with the other. I hope that is it.
[03:16] <iflema> Ziber /etc/network/interfaces strip away all but lo references
[03:16] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, tried "sudo apt-get install dash"?
[03:16] <Ziber> iflema: why?
[03:16] <iflema> Ziber to remove the bridge...
[03:16] <Ziber> well, im doing a "rmmod forcedeth" atm...
[03:17] <ZykoticK9> iflema, Ziber the bridge Ziber is refering to is not a network bridge but how the NIC is identified in lspci?  i have NO idea why.
[03:17] <cegorach> does anyone know a good way to recover data from a bad harddrive?
[03:17] <wasutton3> ZykoticK9: i got dash installed
[03:17] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: rmmod is taking a while...
[03:17] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, rmmod should only take a second
[03:17] <Ziber> :/
[03:17] <ziroday> cegorach: has it made the clicks of death?
[03:18] <Ziber> i think it froze.
[03:18] <abumaia> how do I find out what version my wifi driver is?
[03:18] <CVirus>  Out_Cold: I have a script for sdc and sdd
[03:18] <cegorach> ziroday: i dont believe so (click of death is horrid clicking coming from the drive, right?)
[03:18] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, tried "sudo apt-get install bash" then?
[03:19] <CVirus> Out_Cold: and I'm expecting only disks with 1 partition to be mounted
[03:19] <ziroday> cegorach: yes, its when the pin becomes unaligned and scratches the magnetic plates. What exactly is wrong with the drive?
[03:19] <wasutton3> ZykoticK9: i tried that, ill paste it really quick
[03:19] <Einherjar> scunizi, thank you. One of my sticks of RAM was cracked, probably when I was fiddling with the drive to pull it out.
[03:20] <Einherjar> Sadly, the sticks are 2 GB, while the drives are only 20s for testing purposes. Too bad it wasn't the drive that was bad, instead.
[03:20] <scunizi> Einherjar: glad you found it.. did you have anther to replace it?
[03:20] <cegorach> ziroday: from my friend's gf - the mac froze up, and then she punched the keyboard, now the computer wont boot
[03:20] <ziroday> cegorach: so you don't actually no if the hard drive is naft?
[03:20] <meowbuntu> hi sometimes on my computer firefox and google chrome wont let me play flashmedia. is there a browser that is real low on resources but can still let me view flash media???
[03:20] <ziroday> s/no/know
[03:21] <cegorach> ziroday: i now have it mounted in my ubuntu box, and i'm trying to back up the data for them
[03:21] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: had to restart. couldnt alt+c out of it. anything else to try? that didnt do it, btw. lspci still says bridge
[03:21] <cegorach> ziroday: naft?
[03:21] <Einherjar> scunizi, no, but it was a pair of 2 GB sticks. C'est la vie. An expensive lesson to be more careful than I thought I was.
[03:21] <ziroday> cegorach: okay, and does ubuntu recognize the drive?
[03:21] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, lspci will probably always say bridge instead of controller -- for whatever reason???
[03:21] <scunizi> Einherjar: I have some old, old edo mem sticks if you want.. by old I mean '87 ish
[03:22] <wasutton3> KykoticK9: this is what i got http://pastebin.com/m11905b37
[03:22] <frederick85> Dr_Willis: yes i wanna sound different on skype, a bit of reverb would be good
[03:22] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: and because it does, i have no internet?
[03:22] <cegorach> ziroday: it recognized the drive and mounted it, but it lagged the crap out of all the file system windows
[03:22] <ziroday> cegorach: err okay, well just copy the drive contents onto an external drive (using rsync or whatever)
[03:23] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, ?
[03:23] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: well, i cant get internet, at all. cant ping the router, etc. someone said it was because its a bridge and not a controller?
[03:23] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, i imagine your error is caused because one of the install scripts is trying to call /bin/bash - which isn't there
[03:23] <cegorach> ziroday: well, i tried to copy using cp, but it kept giving me a 'cannot stat ... I/O error'
[03:24] <meowbuntu> hi sometimes on my computer firefox and google chrome wont let me play flashmedia. is there a browser that is real low on resources but can still let me view flash media???
[03:24] <Einherjar> scunizi, Nah. I have a few 256 I can use for the time being. Just a bit longer before I can get another big one to replace it. Thank you, though.
[03:24] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, i understand your problem - you're not the only person with this chipset/nic to have problems - it was a search that found me those directions for rmmod
[03:24] <wasutton3> KykoticK9, would it be possible to just copy /bin/bash from a different computer?
[03:24] <ziroday> cegorach: ookay, well if I were you I'd just try get the documents she wants first, and then get the less important stuff later
[03:25] <Einherjar> ZykoticK9 and scunizi, I thank you both for the help. I'm still learning Linux, and computers in general. Hopefully I'll be able to repay your aid by helping others in the future!
[03:25] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: and the only solution is to replace the hardware?
[03:25] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, certainly worth a try -- you MIGHT even try linking dash to bash to test
[03:25] <wasutton3> true
[03:25] <cegorach> ziroday: ok.. i'll try to see if it even lets me do that... i've been trying to use dd_rhelp, but that is taking for ever, and i dont think it is actually copying anything
[03:25] <Out_Cold> CVirus, i was just reading but -> If your usb device doesn't appear on your desktop, you should check that your user has the correct privileges.  You should have the "Access external storage devices automatically" option checked.
[03:26] <Out_Cold> or unchecked
[03:26] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, i don't know man -- i don't have the same hardware/issue... but hopefully it's a solveable problem
[03:26] <Ziber> :/
[03:26] <meowbuntu> any ideas on a really low resourse webbrowser that still plays flashmedia
[03:26] <Ziber> this is silly. an old laptop that my dad was going to trash, but i stole and coverted into a server, works fine. but my custom-built desktop has problems :(
[03:27] <Out_Cold> meowbuntu, seamonkey maybe?
[03:27] <Out_Cold> Ziber, my custom built everythings have problems :p
[03:27] <coz_> meowbuntu,  google chrome is fairly good
[03:27] <abumaia> is there a way to find my wifi driver version?
[03:28] <wasutton3> ZykoticK9, you are brilliant, i linked it, then was able to install and everything was fine again, no errors, thanks
[03:28] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, glad you got it :)
[03:29] <meowbuntu> coz_, i saisd lower than forefox and chrome
[03:29] <petsounds> meowbuntu, midori
[03:29] <coz_> meowbuntu,  oh sorry   then I am not sure...
[03:29] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: thanks for ur help tho
[03:30] <meowbuntu> petsounds, aint madori a kde app
[03:30] <spiffydiffy> Anyone here good at figuring out boot/partitioning problems?
[03:30] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, your welcome man - i hope you get it working!
[03:30] <petsounds> meowbuntu, no midori is GTK+
[03:30] <MrUnix> !ask | spiffydiffy
[03:30] <coz_> meowbuntu,  its another webkit based browser    as is chrome
[03:31] <spiffydiffy> Funny, I thought I DID ask a question.
[03:32] <Trek> spiffydiffy: you didn't specify a specific enough question
[03:32] <abumaia> wow
[03:32] <abumaia> he left
[03:32] <Trek> indeed he did, abumaia
[03:33] <MrUnix> His issue obviously wasn't important.
[03:33] <Trek> or maybe he expected a faster response, MrUnix
[03:34] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I disabled automount already using gconf-editor
[03:34] <CAPcap> I have a wireless internet issue.
[03:34] <Trek> CAPcap, whats your issue?
[03:35] <mediaprodigy> Question: Need an app that is similar to Logic, Protools any recommendations.. in the past someone recommended Rosegarden.. any thoughts
[03:35] <mediaprodigy> Im trying to do a remix to a song and need the appropriate software for ubuntu
[03:36] <coz_> mediaprodigy,  mm  I do most of my music stuff onwindows  unfortuantly
[03:36] <CAPcap> We use a voip phone service in my home. Its buggy and so several times a day we have to reset the modem and router and voip box. when we do this i am obviously forcefully disconnected on my computer. when i was running windows it reconnected just fine but now when we reset I have to reboot my computer to get it to connect to the internet again. how can i fix that?
[03:37] <coz_> mediaprodigy,  how about ardour ?
[03:37] <scunizi> google "music stuff ubuntu" :)
[03:37] <mediaprodigy> coz: yeah.. i have a dual boot.. so i have xp but seriously am trying to not use it..
[03:37] <MauritianGuy> woow
[03:37] <coz_> mediaprodigy,    http://ardour.org/
[03:37] <MauritianGuy> its took me a while to realise that i had to complete my nick registration to get here lol
[03:37] <mediaprodigy> scunizi: I am but this channel always has good perspectives..
[03:37] <coz_> mediaprodigy,  and I Believe you just need to   sudo apt-get install ardour
[03:38] <scunizi> CAPcap: you voip service doesn't have QoS .. it's going through the internet cloud.. what service do you have?
[03:38] <MrUnix> mediaprodigy, just do like the rest of us and sever your ties to windows completely.
[03:38] <CAPcap> idk something obscure
[03:38] <Trek> MauritianGuy, it took a person named iAmEpic an hour to realize he had to post on my channel
[03:38] <MrUnix> Be a man and let Linux take over your entire HDD.
[03:38] <MauritianGuy> guys i am having a problem installing the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.53-pkg1.run
[03:38] <maco> MrUnix: that has what, exactly, to do with being a man?
[03:38] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  what steps have you taken so far?
[03:39] <MauritianGuy> i have tried to get to the terminal and login as root
[03:39] <scunizi> CAPcap: is it a sip line you're using with a software client? or a hard phone? is there a box you plug into the internet and then plug the phones into?
[03:39] <CAPcap> its called Voipo scunizi
[03:39] <MrUnix> maco, he's making excuses not to install Linux as his sole OS. Men don't make excuses.
[03:39] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  have you downloaded this driver from nvidia?
[03:39] <MauritianGuy> then tried to accedd the desktop directory where the file is but i cannto access it from there
[03:39] <CAPcap> and theres a box we plug our phones into
[03:39] <maco> MrUnix: perhaps some men do. who made you arbiter of what men do and do not do?
[03:39] <Fezzler> my sound is "broken" , how to I assess/diagnos repair
[03:40] <mediaprodigy> MrUnix: I am trying to get back into djing.. using serato.. mac and xp only and my only mac died.. that was the day I decided it was time to move to ubuntu.
[03:40] <MauritianGuy> so i doubleclick and run it on the terminal option but with this option u cannot login as root before so i am stuck
[03:40] <scunizi> CAPcap: so they give you a voip adaptor it looks like .. is that right?
[03:40] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  one thing to keep in mind is that when you are talking to someone specifically here...type the first few letter of the name and hit tab to complete...this will alert them
[03:40] <maco> MauritianGuy: sudo -i
[03:40] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  no that wont work that way  not is it the best way to do it
[03:40] <MrUnix> maco, Being a man I think I have first-hand experience in this matter.
[03:40] <coz_> MauritianGuy, ` first   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:40] <maco> MrUnix: but you are not the boss of all men
[03:40] <scunizi> CAPcap: just saw your post about the box
[03:41] <MrUnix> maco, when did I ever say I was the boss of all men?
[03:41] <petsounds> mediaprodigy, #opensourcemusicians
[03:41] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  when i do the sudo it will fix the install ?
[03:41] <Fezzler> using 9.10
[03:41] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  no
[03:41] <scunizi> CAPcap: do you have that box plugged into your router or direct into your internet connection (dsl or cable)
[03:41] <maco> MrUnix: you are trying to decide what determines being a Real Man. please do not. it is not welcoming to people who do not fit *your* definition
[03:41] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  first    do this    sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:41] <Trek> !offtopic | maco
[03:41] <fivetwentysix> Where does gem install rails on Ubuntu? Typing rails does not do anything.
[03:42] <CAPcap> scunizi phone >router> cable modem
[03:42] <MrUnix> maco, You're taking an obvious joke and blowing it way out of proportion. I suggest you take it to ot or you cool off bud. This is a support channel.
[03:42] <meowbuntu> ok how do i turn off process i dont kneed that may be running in background
[03:42] <maco> MrUnix: then please do not make such jokes in here
[03:42] <scunizi> CAPcap: phone>adaptor>router>cable modem?
[03:42] <MrUnix> Thanks Trek
[03:42] <maco> sexism is not appreciated
[03:42] <Trek> yw, Mr. Unix, but I almost issued one on you too
[03:42] <CAPcap> scunizi yeah sorry =P
[03:42] <MrUnix> meowbuntu, run ps in terminal to find them then kill them.
[03:42] <coz_> meowbuntu,  you could install sysv-rc-conf
[03:42] <meowbuntu> oy keep it on topic please
[03:42] <meowbuntu> !offtopic
[03:43] <MrUnix> Trek, I was wrong for posting the joke, I didn't mean to let it carry on so far.
[03:43] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root
[03:43] <objorn> where might i find the xorg.conf?
[03:43] <Trek> MrUnix, PM me if you want to discuss my reasons for almost issuing one on you
[03:43] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  dont try to install this yet...did you install   build-essential ?
[03:43] <MauritianGuy> yep i did
[03:43] <coz_> ok
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> objorn, in 9.10 there isn't one by default
[03:44] <coz_> MauritianGuy,   now is there a driver already installed via  hardwa
[03:44] <coz_> drives
[03:44] <objorn> ZykoticK9: i need one
[03:44] <MauritianGuy> how do i check
[03:44] <MauritianGuy> how do i check coz_
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> objorn, but it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:44] <scunizi> CAPcap: sometimes you get better service if it's cable modem>adaptor>router .. the reasoning is that the adaptor, also called an ATA, has the ability to prioritize the packets leaving your lan for the internet. so with the adaptor between the cable modem and router it can effectively choke data traffic to allow the voice
[03:44] <coz_> MauritianGuy,   system/administration/hardware drivers
[03:44] <objorn> ZykoticK9: but it isn't there
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> objorn, you using nvidia?
[03:44] <meowbuntu> MrUnix, ps is no good did not even show xchat there thats running
[03:44] <objorn> ZykoticK9: intel
[03:45] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  are any of those drivers enabled yet?
[03:45] <ZykoticK9> objorn, sorry man, not sure how to generate one with intel - best of luck
[03:45] <meowbuntu> coz_, is there a nore gtk frount end for sysv-rc-conf
[03:45] <CAPcap> scunizi i'll look into seeing if we can set it up that way. but really what i want to know is how to get my computer to reconnect after the reset, without rebooting my entire system
[03:46] <coz_> meowbuntu,  no I dont think so   you have to run  sudo sysv-rc-conf
[03:46] <scunizi> CAPcap: sudo service networking restart
[03:46] <meowbuntu> coz_, for alsamixer there is gnome-alsamixer
[03:46] <MrUnix> meowbuntu, ps -A or ps aux | less
[03:46] <coz_> meowbuntu,   understood
[03:46] <Trek> scunizi CAPcap:  that might not work
[03:46] <coz_> meowbuntu,  there is also alsamixer-gui
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> objorn, without an Xorg running i think "Xorg -configure" will make one to /root then you can copy/rename it to correct location
[03:46] <CAPcap> ok well what do u think might? it just sits there loading all day and never connecting
[03:46] <Trek> scunizi CAPcap:  I had to use 'sudo ifconfig <interfaceName> down up' to effectively reboot each interface
[03:46] <scunizi> Trek: what's the right way .. use to involve sudo /etc/init.d/<something>
[03:47] <Fezzler> is there a command line instruction I can run to assess why I have no sound
[03:47] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  There is an Nvidia version 173 which is installed and 185 is the recomended one but in't the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.53 better
[03:47] <Trek> scunizi CAPcap:  what I've run into is that I used ifconfig and the down and up flags to reboot the interface(s)
[03:47] <vamped> wow i'm puzzled. don't you need SWAP in order to suspend? I just suspended & resumed, and I have no SWAP
[03:47] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  ok there are a few steps you have to do before you can install the official navidia driver  so first thing is to get a pencil and paper
[03:47] <scunizi> Trek: CAPcap now I remember .. haven't had to use that in a while.. I typically right mouse click the network icon and choose disconnect then reconnect.
[03:47] <CAPcap> trek thats beyond me... im not very good with the terminal
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> vamped, i think it's hibernate that requires swap
[03:48] <Trek> CAPcap, you using an ethernet cable?
[03:48] <CAPcap> and scunizi ive tried that it isnt working
[03:48] <MauritianGuy> brb coz_
[03:48] <abumaia> how do I find the version number of my wifi driver?
[03:48] <Trek> CAPcap, or wifi?
[03:48] <CAPcap> Trek no wireless
[03:48] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  ok
[03:48] <Trek> CAPcap, do me a favor: go into terminal type "ifconfig"
[03:48] <coz_> abumaia,   I am not sure  but if no one here has an response try the ##linux channel
[03:48] <Trek> CAPcap, is a wlan0 listed there?
[03:48] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  got it
[03:48] <CAPcap> Trek Built in wifi on my laptop
[03:48] <CAPcap> ok
[03:49] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  ok  DO NOT do anything until i say go ...write this stuff down
[03:49] <coz_> MauritianGuy,     ctrl+alt+F1
[03:49] <CAPcap> no i have lo
[03:49] <MauritianGuy> do u mind sending me the instruction on private coz_
[03:49] <coz_> MauritianGuy,   no I dont mind
[03:49] <CAPcap> and eth1 and eth0
[03:49] <wasutton3> is there a way to have root run a command at login of a regular user?
[03:49] <karmst> hello
[03:49] <Trek> CAPcap, then we'll do this: we'll reboot all interfaces in one line.
[03:49] <MrUnix> !hi | karmst
[03:49] <happy> wasutton3: su - username
[03:49] <karmst> Is there a way to use Ubuntu Karmic as a Firewall for dual wan with QOS ability?
[03:50] <CAPcap> Trek what is a Local Loopback?
[03:50] <wasutton3> happy: i mean have it run automatically, without any password requirement or prompt
[03:50] <happy> wasutton3: su does not require a password if you are root
[03:50] <scunizi> karmst: qos is only on your lan.. you can't qos packets once they hit the internet
[03:50] <Trek> CAPcap, loopback is somehting that the system uses to communicate with itself on a network
[03:50] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, loopback is <IP_ADDRESS> - basically yourself
[03:51] <Gnea> !java
[03:51] <CAPcap> ok :)
[03:51] <happy> wasutton3: or am I misunderstanding the question?
[03:51] <karmst> right scunizi I need a gateway solution that has QOS for VoIP
[03:51] <Trek> CAPcap, with a wlan0 not existing, but an eth0 and eth1 means wifi = eth in the detection
[03:51] <Trek> nevertheless...
[03:51] <Trek> CAPcap, type this in terminal on one line: sudo ifconfig eth0 down up; sudo ifconfig eth1 down up
[03:51] <karmst> can Ubuntu be a gateway?
[03:51] <CAPcap> the line that says eth1 has all my connection details
[03:51] <wasutton3> happy: but i am logging in as my user. the script has to be run with root permissions but can only be run once the gnome has loaded completely
[03:51] <CAPcap> so it must be my wireless....
[03:51] <MrUnix> karmst, yes it can.
[03:51] <Trek> CAPcap: then only do this: sudo ifconfig eth1 down up
[03:52] <Trek> CAPcap: in terminal
[03:52] <happy> wasutton3: ok, so you want the user to run as root. Not the root to run as user
[03:52] <Trek> CAPcap: then use your connection manager to select the network again
[03:52] <karmst> MrUnix: can you team two WAN interfaces together with it?
[03:52] <Trek> CAPcap: should allow you to reconnect
[03:52] <wasutton3> happy: correct
[03:52] <scunizi> karmst: asterisk will probably do that.. QoS can occationally be implemented in your router or in a smart switch.. but again.. QoS for voIP will only work within your lan..
[03:52] <happy> wasutton3: there is a way to allow passwordless sudo for certain programs
[03:53] <MrUnix> karmst, This isn't really my department. I'm sorry.
[03:53] <Trek> CAPcap: you will lose your connection if you're using that computer on this chat though, at least for a few minutes
[03:53] <scunizi> karmst: unless you have a t-1 from a carrier and they have the ability to put that on the circuit
[03:53] <happy> wasutton3: you could make a non editable root owned script. And then say it can be run as root without a password.
[03:53] <wasutton3> happy: ok, where would i find this?
[03:53] <happy> wasutton3: I do not know off the top of my head how to do that. Let me look it up
[03:54] <Fezzler> how do I check my sound card drivers
[03:54] <karmst> scunizi: my problem is that the VoIP calls are not clear and that other services are sucking up all the available bandwidth
[03:54] <wasutton3> ok
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, research the sudoers file
[03:54] <karmst> so I need to somehow make those calls packet priority
[03:55] <CAPcap> ok, well for now i cant see that it did anything but i'll try it next time we have a reset. thanks for all of your help Trek and scunizi
[03:55] <Trek> CAPcap: wait
[03:55] <Trek> ...
[03:55] <wasutton3> ok
[03:55] <happy> wasutton3: http://polishlinux.org/first-steps/root-account/sudo-faq/
[03:55] <scunizi> karmst: what kind of router do you have?
[03:56] <karmst> a syswan 24vws vpn
[03:56] <karmst> but I've since moved to a VMware esxi server with a virtual router
[03:56] <happy> wasutton3: you need to make sure to read everything there. And back up the sudoers file. And make sure the script you allow to run can not be tampered with by users. you are walking into one of the biggest security minefields.
[03:56] <karmst> I'm thinking about using vyatta
[03:56] <happy> wasutton3: have fun :-P
[03:58] <Mr_Queue> why not just include it in the start up scripts wasutton3?
[03:59] <vajorie> you gotta stop diverting everyone to ubuntu-unregged... it's extremely annoying.
[03:59] <scunizi> karmst: google doesn't find a syswan.. if the new router is virtual look into having it put a TOS bit on the voip traffic and give it priority..  however a smart switch will also do this effectively and may be easier.. that's about as much as I can guide you.
[03:59] <karmst> vajorie just register your nick and then add the password to your irc profile
[03:59] <johntramp> hi i have my email on another machine using getmail. i have been accessing it via ssh and mutt, which mostly works well except i have to check for new mails all the time. is there a way i could use something locally to notify me when new mail arrives?
[03:59] <karmst> hmm
[04:00] <karmst> I have a smart switch as well
[04:00] <MrUnix> Where is the sudoers file on Ubuntu? /etc/sudoers?
[04:00] <karmst>  I have a dell powerconnect 4800
[04:00] <MrUnix> (I'm on Fedora)
[04:00] <Trek> MrUnix: i think so
[04:00] <Trek> MrUnix: use sudo to edit it
[04:00] <vajorie> karmst: it's registered. I autojoin to ubuntu bf I have time to identify. also, I don't see the point of having folks register their usernames. I'm guessing a script can do that easily for random nicks.
[04:00] <MrUnix> Trek, thanks. =P I need to put Ubuntu on a VM so I can remember all of this stuff.
[04:01] <Trek> MrUnix: let me check
[04:01] <Trek> MrUnix: yeah, thats where it is, but even with sudo I can't edit it.  might be that I need to login as root
[04:02] <Mr_Queue> Trek: no no... visudo to edit.
[04:02] <Trek> thanks Mr_Queue
[04:02] <naiad> can xrandr be used with xinerama or do they not coexist?
[04:02] <MrUnix> vajorie, Most IRC channels require a registered nick to view or post in a discussion. It is true that simple scripts can be used to create registered users en masse, but to be honest people rarely care enough to try.
[04:02] <MrUnix> Thanks Trek
[04:02] <scunizi> karmst: a lot of smart switched have PoS and voip priority.. easier than messing with a router or virtual router.
[04:03] <karmst> ah
[04:03] <karmst> you may be right
[04:03] <fivetwentysix> why is the rails package out of date
[04:04] <scunizi> karmst: *PoE not PoS sorry.. "Power over Ethernet"
[04:08] <scunizi> naiad: I don't think they coexist.. if you use xinerama you may have to write your own xorg.conf
[04:08] <karmst> scunizi: my switch has Class of Service or COS is that the same thing?
[04:08] <scunizi> karmst: might be..
[04:08] <naiad> trying to have 1 lcd in landscape, 1 in portrait and be able to drag windows between them.  preferrably being able to switch from landscape/portrait without restarting x
[04:08] <Mr_Queue> as in QoS?
[04:09] <Mr_Queue> karmst: ^^
[04:09] <scunizi> karmst: I'd say yes.. I've forgotten what number represents voip qos  .. Mr_Queue ..yes
[04:09] <Lostinspace_46> @new york
[04:10] <karmst> ah
[04:10] <Mr_Queue> QoS rules just give priority to some packets over others. In my opinion you'd need to have a rather over-worked router for it to matter..
[04:10] <Mr_Queue> 50-100 clients...
[04:11] <Trek> Mr_Queue, how exactly can you get gedit to edit /etc/sudoers ?
[04:11] <karmst> Mr_Queue: I'm having VoIP issues
[04:11] <karmst> calls are all garbled and nothing is clear
[04:11] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: karmst would like to prioritize only on the lan since you can't in the cloud.. he's got other stuff on the lan eating bandwidth
[04:11] <Mr_Queue> Trek: 'sudo visudo'
[04:12] <Mr_Queue> karmst: that could be anything under the sun really......
[04:12] <Trek> Mr_Queue, I meanm with the GUI text editor, not CLI-based text editor
[04:12] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: a smart switch of the right type will prioritize voip traffic on the lan
[04:12] <karmst> well I put a sniffer and can see where the traffic is being over run by mail server, data transfers and backups
[04:13] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: sure... but what's smart? off the shelf walmart hardware? Powered by OpenWRT?
[04:13] <karmst> haha
[04:13] <karmst> no I have a Dell PowerConnect 2724
[04:13] <karmst> it is a managed switch
[04:14] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[04:14] <Blue1> you can tell if it's a dell....
[04:14] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: no.. you're thinking router.. I'm talking dedicated switch $400 and north of that.. Netgear, linksys, cisco.. typically 12-24-48 port with PoE
[04:14] <Mr_Queue> Trek: not to be a donk, but I don't know/care... 'sudo visudo' pretty much if you're playing with that you better be able to do it from something other than Firefox/OpenOffice, else leave it be until things catch up to your needs..
[04:15] <Trek> okay, thanks, Mr_Queue
[04:15] <Screamo_Smurf> i need help with automagickly mounting hd's at startup
[04:15] <ziroday> !fstab > Screamo_Smurf
[04:15] <Mr_Queue> Trek: reason being..
[04:16] <karmst> ok this is talking about DSCP egress queue values
[04:17] <Trek> Mr_Queue: found my answer.  forgot I asked about this on the fourms :P
[04:17] <Mr_Queue> Trek: 'visudo' not only enables a lock file so no one else can be editing sudoers at the same time, there are a few checks for what works and what doesnt..  Get rid of it, it's so restrictive: I can't change nickname until I part it, even if I log in.
[04:20] <scunizi> karmst: the one I typically play with retails for around $400
[04:20] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: well to be honest I've never seen that hardware. No clue what it's powered by, and probably isn't Ubuntu/Debian so I would guess you're in the wrong area for answers.. I mean the easy obvious stuff of QoS should somewhat jump out imo.. but if now.. write the firmware keyholder?
[04:20] <karmst> but this is doing priority by actual physical port on the switch
[04:21] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: Look at OpenWRT.
[04:22] <scunizi> karmst: can or not.. the smart switches can do vlan, port designation, QoS, PoE etc.. on one port or all.
[04:22] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: http://openwrt.org/
[04:23] <Mr_Queue> Regardless, and no offense, offtopic...
[04:23] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: I've seen OpenWRT and it's fine as a firmware replacement on small non-commercial linksys routers and others.. however what I'm talking to karmst about is commercial grade equipment.. an actual switch.. it's not a router and has no routing functions perse.. not in the classic sense anyway..
[04:24] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: you can hook a fiber link directly to it, hook several together with fiber etc..
[04:24] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: Have you not seen RouterStation Pro by Ubiquiti? Pretty serious hardware bro... http://www.ubnt.com/products/rspro.php
[04:25] <Mr_Queue> Have a look what it ships with..
[04:25] <wasutton3> is there a command i can enter to enable or disable a system wide proxy ( i only need it sometimes but its often enough that changing it gets old fast)
[04:25] <Mr_Queue> wasutton3: it's called a script.
[04:25] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday im not completly understading it
[04:26] <wasutton3> Mr_Queue, i figured as much i just dont know what needs to be entered
[04:26] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: sure, what about?
[04:26] <Screamo_Smurf> lol
[04:26] <Screamo_Smurf> ummm
[04:26] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: looks nice but it's still not carrier grade stuff. I'd never run a serious business with it..
[04:27] <ziroday> scunizi: Mr_Queue: any chance you could take your networking discussion to ##networking?
[04:27] <Screamo_Smurf> pretty much the whole thing lol
[04:27] <Mr_Queue> wasutton3: well buddy.......
[04:27] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: ookay :), where have you read up to?
[04:27] <Mr_Queue> ziroday: I'm with you there dude.. But I'm gonna miss the meeting. :)
[04:27] <Quan-Time> i have steam open, and its actively downloading an update,, how can i tell waht its connecting to ? whats the command from a term to list all active connections ?
[04:27] <Screamo_Smurf> well i got the fstab file open, but im not sure what to put in lol
[04:27] <panfist> can anyone explain why the testdisk package was dropped from the repositories?
[04:27] <panfist> is there something better in there now?
[04:28] <spiffydiffy> Does anyone know why a fresh install onto a hardware RAID-0 will boot only from the live CD?  This is single OS setup and the 9.10 liveCD was told to use the entire disk.
[04:28] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: right, can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please
[04:28] <Screamo_Smurf> i want to auto mount these drives: /dev/sdc1: UUID="AC88BCB688BC807E" LABEL="Old computer" TYPE="ntfs" and /dev/sdb1: UUID="c96e3e4b-03e2-413b-a10a-36e67bc4fcdc" TYPE="ext4"
[04:28] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: right, give me a sec
[04:29] <ziroday> panfist: erm it is in the repo's since dapper, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=testdisk&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[04:29] <Mr_Queue> Quan-Time: like netstat?
[04:29] <Quan-Time> Mr_Queue: yup, that did it
[04:29] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: made a mount point?
[04:29] <panfist> aaaah i forgot to include universe in my new environment thanks
[04:29] <Quan-Time> i have a data cap where i am, BUT some steam servers are "unmetered" just making sure it was connected properly
[04:30] <Screamo_Smurf> well they are both currently mounted and they are where i want them to be
[04:30] <Mr_Queue> Screamo_Smurf: where's grub?
[04:30] <Screamo_Smurf> since the folders exist right now idk if that would casue a problem
[04:30] <Mr_Queue> Screamo_Smurf: wrong nick...
[04:30] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: where is grub?
[04:30] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[04:31] <karmst> scunizi: I've figured it out. You have to create a VLAN first and then give that priority over the other traffic in the switch
[04:31] <seanp8088> hello, i just need someone to post their /etc/init/dmesg.conf
[04:31] <seanp8088> i accidently borked mine
[04:31] <scunizi> karmst: that's one way :)
[04:31] <GhostWolf> hey all, im wondering if anyone can help me? im trying to find the network settings in ubuntu 9.10, reason im trying to do this is trying to get the modem for my dial up to be enabled
[04:31] <karmst> ;)
[04:31] <seanp8088> this is for karmic server if it matters
[04:31] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: okay, well where do you want to mount the partitions? Normally I would create a folder like /media/oldfolder
[04:31] <spiffydiffy> Mr_Queue:Not sure.  Everything I've read uses /dev/hda but my system has a hardware RAID-O and I can't figure out what the dev name actually is.
[04:31] <Screamo_Smurf> pretty much like that
[04:32] <Screamo_Smurf> like /media/oldcomputer and the same for the other one
[04:32] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: and so for your first fstab line it would be UUID=AC88BCB688BC807E /media/oldcomputer ntfs defaults 0 0
[04:32] <CVirus> How can I prevent users from mounting external USB devices using nautilus side pane ?
[04:32] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: unlucky for you.. I have yet to play with RAID.. BUT grub is the player here...
[04:33] <Screamo_Smurf> so i just add that to fstab?
[04:33] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: sure, if you are not sure feel free to paste your entire fstab after
[04:33] <spiffydiffy> Mr_Queue: Yes, and I have read many grub tutorials.  Lamentably, they all talk about single IDE or SATA setups, and use dev names that don't apply to me.  When I do a df, I get a very confusing response.
[04:33] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: pastebin grub.cfg/menu?
[04:34] <seanp8088> so could someone please post their default /etc/init/dmesg.conf file, i accidently overwrote mine :(
[04:34] <Mr_Queue> Lamentably NICE... we've been on a word of the day kick for a couple weeks now a few friends and I.
[04:34] <spiffydiffy> Mr_Queue: not sure what you are asking.....  Somewhat new to linux (came from BSD).
[04:35] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: Well... /boot will have grub.<something> depending on what release your chilling at..
[04:35] <GhostWolf> can anyone please help me? please.. i been having problems trying to find the network settings in ubuntu 9.10 so i can enable the data modem so i can use dial up
[04:36] <ziroday> seanp8088: http://pastebin.com/f2e259c80
[04:36] <seanp8088> ziroday: thx dood
[04:36] <spiffydiffy> Mr_Queue: Okay, so you're looking for the config file for grub, right?
[04:36] <kora-chan> hi, im using 9.10 and just installed a 2.6.32 kernel to get the sound working on my mac book pro 5,5. this worked, but after a reboot my wireless lan doesnt work anymore (used the broadcom drivers from restricted). now i cant install them again from the gui. any idea how i can i install those drivers manually for my new kernel?
[04:36] <ziroday> GhostWolf: right click on network manager and select edit connections
[04:36] <JabberWalkie> ok, so I tried to install usb-creator as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick   so I can install ubuntu on a computer using a usb memory stick. It comes up as not found...
[04:36] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5b91ef4
[04:36] <seanp8088> GhostWolf: there should be a dial-up config tab on the network settings dialog box.  are you running -desktop or -server?
[04:36] <rsmith16384> hello all
[04:36] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: yes.
[04:37] <Screamo_Smurf> GhostWolf sudo apt-get install wvdial
[04:37] <GhostWolf> ziroday where is the network manager? i don't see network managers in either sections in the system tab
[04:37] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: looks perfect
[04:37] <rsmith16384> has anyone gotten jumbo frames working on realtek gigabit card?
[04:37] <karmst> thanks scunizi for the direction. This is actually working.
[04:37] <ziroday> GhostWolf: its a small icon in the top right on the menubar
[04:37] <rsmith16384> i set mtu to 9000 but ifconfig still shows 1500
[04:37] <GhostWolf> Screamo_Smurf i know i need to get that but i need to get the modem to enable first
[04:37] <scunizi> GhostWolf: pick the upper panel and right mouse click > Add to panel > Modem Monitor  .. this will activate and allow the modem to work I believe.. wvdial is another program that may get loaded at the same time.
[04:37] <iflema> GhostWolf pots? old school dial-up? whats the modem type..... if its not external get ready 4 tears
[04:38] <scunizi> karmst: learned most of my voip stuff over the last 6 months selling IP-PBX's
[04:38] <scunizi> karmst: glad it's working
[04:38] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday what about for the other one? :P
[04:38] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: try editing /etc/network/interfaces and specify the MTU there
[04:38] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: man interfaces
[04:38] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: well similar thing, just change out the UUID, mount point and possibly filesystem. Feel free to go ahead and then pastebin when you are done
[04:38] <rsmith16384> ok will report the result in about 10 mins
[04:38] <GhostWolf> iflema its not external and im not going to go about to not try if people tell me i can't have dial up with it
[04:39] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: so you'd want to append "mtu 9000" in there somewhere.  then do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:39] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: jumbo frames, eh?  Make sure your router / switch / NIC supports them
[04:39] <scunizi> Karius: Is this at work? or at home?
[04:39] <rsmith16384> both do
[04:39] <scunizi> Karius: sorry. wrong nick.
[04:39] <seanp8088> OK, then you should be good to go.  Don't expect it to play nice with other devices that don't support jumbo frames
[04:39] <rsmith16384> i can mismatch itll just be slower right till theyre all on the same page?
[04:40] <iflema> GhostWolf yeah go 4 it.. i just mean prepare yourself for tears.... alot of internal dialup modems are made for windows...
[04:40] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: no, if you have the MTU set incorrectly it'll chop packets and basically not work
[04:40] <penguincentral> hi. does anyone know of an ubuntu deri
[04:40] <penguincentral> err
[04:40] <GhostWolf> iflema yes i know but i already did research there are modems that work with linux and i already checked and ubuntu already noticed it and got the drivers..
[04:40] <rsmith16384> my switch in unmanaged so i guess itll detect them
[04:41] <rsmith16384> ill set the router from a diff puter i guess
[04:41] <iflema> GhostWolf good one.....
[04:41] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: it's worth a shot, if it doesn't work just switch it back to 1500 and restart networking again
[04:41] <rsmith16384> if you dont hear from me , well :)
[04:42] <penguincentral> does anyone know of an ubuntu distro that'll support a comp with a 600 MHz processor and 128 mb of ram?
[04:42] <seanp8088> penguincentral: you could try installing -server then just install your own lightweight GUI
[04:42] <penguincentral> k
[04:42] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5c6f2906
[04:42] <seanp8088> penguincentral: that's what I did with a thin client.  You should be able to run 'dwm' which is a very efficient window manager.  make sure you read about how to use it first
[04:43] <seanp8088> penguincentral: there are honestly more efficient distros for low CPU applications
[04:43] <seanp8088> penguincentral: my 1000mhz Via Eden doesn't have enough graphics power to barely browse the web
[04:43] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: err why are you trying to mount the drive that is running ubuntu?
[04:43] <zcat[1]> puppy!
[04:43] <penguincentral> seanp8088: what do you suggest
[04:44] <Screamo_Smurf> the contents of the hme folder duh :D
[04:44] <seanp8088> penguincentral: puppy linux, damn small linux, or ArchLinux / FreeBSD if you want to work a bit more
[04:44] <Screamo_Smurf> *home
[04:44] <seanp8088> penguincentral: is it i386 or i686? (does it support instructions like CMOV) ?
[04:44] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: err I would double check your UUID's on that last one
[04:44] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[04:44] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: it appears you're trying to mount the same drive twice
[04:45] <ziroday> first as /, then as /media/ubuntu
[04:45] <seanp8088> penguincentral: you can find out by running "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags"
[04:45] <penguincentral> seanp8088: its running win 2000
[04:45] <Screamo_Smurf> lol oops i forgot the kubuntu drive wasnt sda1
[04:46] <seanp8088> penguincentral: try CPUZ:
[04:46] <seanp8088> penguincentral: oops, http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
[04:46] <penguincentral> ok
[04:46] <seanp8088> penguincentral: debian, for instance, is available in an i386 flavor, where as ubuntu requires i686
[04:47] <Screamo_Smurf> so this would be about right:UUID=91a46e4b-4651-4b1d-a2a1-2c0e833c555e /media/ubuntu ext4 defaults 0 0
[04:47] <penguincentral> seanp8088: i'm recycling this comp for my uncle that doesnt really know how to use one
[04:48] <robb> so i have ubuntu 9.10, and it was running the geforce2 ti using the supplied drivers (weak/nil 3d support) i added an ATI Rage PCI for dual monitor setup, much reading later, it is apparent this will not work, due to security issues with the driver for ATI and a headache full of compiling kernels for the Nvidia... perhaps better legacy hardware support in future releases, or am i just wishing?
[04:48] <seanp8088> penguincentral: if it's a pentium III then it should be fine
[04:48] <robb> plus i think there is no binary driver support for 9.10/geforce2
[04:48] <penguincentral> seanp8088: yeah it's a p3
[04:48] <robb> forums were mentioning gutsy and such
[04:49] <seanp8088> robb: i found this: http://vasir.net/blog/ubuntu/set-up-dual-monitors-with-ubuntu-804/
[04:50] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday UUID=91a46e4b-4651-4b1d-a2a1-2c0e833c555e /media/ubuntu ext4 defaults 0 0
[04:50] <seanp8088> robb: that might be tough tho, dealing with two vid drivers
[04:51] <robb> yes, what i found was similiar
[04:53] <seanp8088> man Tranmission is a joke compared to rtorrent
[04:53] <aski> how can I list hard disk partitions(mounted and unmounted) using command line?
[04:53] <MrUnix> seanp8088, I like Transmission.
[04:53] <seanp8088> but i will say that rtorrent + XMLRPC + SCGI + Apache is a bit of a PITA to set up at first
[04:53] <MrUnix> aski, fdisk -l
[04:54] <aski> MrUnix: ty.
[04:54] <rww> aski: you might need sudo fdisk -l to list them all.
[04:54] <MrUnix> aski, might need to run that as root. No worries.
[04:54] <robb> seanp8088: i think that is referring to the dual head ati/nvidia cards, not TWO cards :)
[04:54] <seanp8088> aski: 'mount' will show you what's mounted.  'df -h' will show you how much space is left on each mounted device
[04:54] <blakkheim> rtorrent here
[04:55] <robb> envyng just gave up on me, the nvidia control applet says i have no cards (wrong driver version for support), etc etc
[04:55] <DJCharlie> Evening all. Quick question. I have XFCE running, and have power management set to NEVER turn off the screen. BUT, after 10 minutes of inactivity, it turns off anyway. How can I stop this?
[04:55] <voidmage> i'm having steam crash a few seconds after logging in - the error it dumps is err:dbghelp:pe_load_dbg_file Couldn't find .DBG file "COMCTL32.dbg" ("")
[04:55] <seanp8088> robb: yeah, that might be difficult to get working.  at work I run an ATI 200m laptop with the laptop and an external plus an EVGA displaylink USB adapter for a 3rd monitor...but in windows :)
[04:55] <voidmage> google didn't turn up anything, anybody else know what that means?
[04:55] <MrUnix> DJCharlie, punch it in the face.
[04:55] <zomfgcrazy> hello.. =x
[04:56] <MrUnix> !hi | zomfgcrazy
[04:56] <zomfgcrazy> ^.^
[04:56] <CVirus> How can I prevent users from mounting external USB devices using nautilus side pane ?
[04:56] <penguincentral> seanp8088: is there a novice user friendly lightweight distro that you like?
[04:56] <MrUnix> CVirus, did you try asking in ##linux?
[04:56] <aski> seanp8088: ty.
[04:56] <MrUnix> penguincentral, puppy!
[04:57] <robb> penguincentral: ubuntu! :)
[04:57] <MrUnix> Ubuntu is lightweight, but puppy is super lightweight!
[04:57] <MrUnix> Puppy Linux FTW
[04:57] <CVirus> MrUnix: this is more ubuntu/gnome related
[04:57] <zcat[1]> CVirus:  user permissions
[04:57] <penguincentral> k...
[04:57] <MrUnix> CVirus, I understand, but if you don't get any help in here you might try there. =)
[04:57] <zcat[1]> CVirus:  system > ADministration > Users and groups
[04:58] <CVirus> zcat[1]: doesn't work
[04:58] <robb> can't just take /dev/usb (or whatever) permission away from users?
[04:58] <firestrider> hey guys you probably get this a lot but what's the advantage of linux over windows besides cost and being open source
[04:58] <Screamo_Smurf> its just better
[04:58] <zomfgcrazy> is there any way to make a 'mountable' image of a windows partition that i can then save as a singular file and mount in Ubuntu (9.10) and have all of the stuff there as if it were actually hardwired in?
[04:58] <MrUnix> firestrider, This isn't really the channel for that.
[04:58] <Screamo_Smurf> SnakDoc
[04:58] <robb> firestrider: security, important to me
[04:58] <CVirus> robb: ?
[04:59] <MrUnix> firestrider, pm me if you'd like to discuss it.
[04:59] <CVirus> robb: which node exactly ?
[04:59] <SnakDoc> Screamo_Smurf: yes ??
[04:59] <voidmage> personally, i like doing things from the command line, also ssh
[04:59] <robb> CVirus: dunno which node
[04:59] <robb> just an idea
[04:59] <Screamo_Smurf> i know somebody with that nick.. just wondering if maybe your the person i know
[04:59] <CVirus> robb: the nodes are created dynamically anyways .. so I don't think it's of any use to change their permissions as they will be resetted
[04:59] <DJCharlie> I have XFCE running, and have power management set to NEVER turn off the screen. BUT, after 10 minutes of inactivity, it turns off anyway. How can I stop this? And no, punching it won't help.
[04:59] <zcat[1]> never tried to stop users mounting removable filesystems but the option is there. Doesn't it work?
[05:00] <Screamo_Smurf> DJCharlie kick it
[05:00] <SnakDoc> Screamo_Smurf: no idea don't know anyone with yours off tom of my head
[05:00] <CVirus> zcat[1]: yes it doesn't :-(
[05:00] <Screamo_Smurf> hmmm
[05:00] <Screamo_Smurf> ever heard of xbc?
[05:00] <DJCharlie> Can someone give me a serious answer please?
[05:00] <robb> DJCharlie: perhaps it has it's own power management??
[05:00] <MrUnix> !xubuntu | DJCharlie
[05:00] <Screamo_Smurf> DJCharlie try edit the setting under screensaver
[05:00] <zcat[1]> CVirus:  Oh well. Unplug the USB ports (or fill them with glue) -- hehe
[05:01] <CVirus> dooh
[05:01] <DJCharlie> Screamo_Smurf: As I said, I've done that.
[05:01] <zcat[1]> There'll be some permissions thing in /etc/udev rules that you can change.
[05:01] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[05:01] <Screamo_Smurf> idk then
[05:01] <Screamo_Smurf> i use kubuntu :D
[05:02] <hiexpo> ok that took me awhile to figure outthat mess
[05:02] <Mr_Queue> no
[05:02] <zomfgcrazy> Is it possible to back up a windows partition (filesystem?) to an image and then be able to mount it in Ubuntu?  If so.. what might be used to do it?
[05:02] <zcat[1]> CVirus:  Also file a bug or feature request, perhaps we can have the ability to control that added to 10.04
[05:02] <seanp8088> CVirus: << http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13692
[05:02] <Screamo_Smurf> !fstab
[05:03] <seanp8088> CVirus: it won't completely prevent it if they know how to use mount, but you could lock that down too
[05:03] <robb> !envyng
[05:03] <robb> newer :(
[05:03] <glick> excuse me, what does it mean when you do an 'ls' and you see a folder that is highlighted in green?
[05:03] <CVirus> seanp8088: gnome-volume-manager is no longer in 9.04
[05:03] <robb> !ls
[05:03] <syrius> I have this enabled in my smb.conf file to use cdrom on  my vista machine I am able to access it but I can't burn to it http://pastebin.ca/raw/1762480 how do I do this I tried network map the drive that didn't work either
[05:03] <MrUnix> glick, green is executable
[05:03] <syrius> :/
[05:03] <gasull> Can anybody tell me how to get apt links working in Firefox?  Thanks
[05:04] <glick> ahh
[05:04] <glick> thanks MrUnix
[05:04] <MrUnix> glick, Each color means something. Blue is a directory, pink/magenta is a symlink, for example. And no worries.
[05:04] <glick> MrUnix, even though its a directory
[05:04] <glick> MrUnix, its a directory
[05:04] <MrUnix> glick, Is it? Hmmm I'm in Fedora right now and green here is an exec. My bad.
[05:04] <seanp8088> CVirus: maybe this? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-disable-modprobe-loading-of-usb-storage-driver/
[05:05] <hiexpo> is anybody else having probs logging in here tonight ?
[05:05] <mneptok> glick: directories need to executable bit set in order to be opened.
[05:05] <zcat[1]> syrius:  is it possible to burn to a shared CDROM between two windows machines?!!
[05:05] <glick> its a directory with all perms
[05:05] <zomfgcrazy> I see fstab is used to manage partitions, but can it create an image of one (from one)?
[05:05] <glick> mneptok, but other directories with x bit set arnt highlithgted
[05:05] <CVirus> seanp8088: I don't want do that because the superuser needs access to usb
[05:05] <CVirus> seanp8088: I want to prevent normal users only
[05:05] <MrUnix> glick, then maybe the run perm overwrites it's standard blue color? I'm not sure bud.
[05:05] <mneptok> glick: are they 777 like the directory you're talking about?
[05:06] <glick> no mneptok
[05:06] <seanp8088> CVirus: you could blacklist the module then modprobe it when you need it
[05:06] <seanp8088> CVirus: http://www.ossramblings.com/disabling_usb_storage_in_linux like this <<
[05:06] <mneptok> glick: that's probably the reason
[05:06] <glick> ah
[05:07] <CVirus> seanp8088: actually I don't want to prevent users from accessing usb drives .. I'm allowing them to mount them but in read-only mode using a script I wrote that they have to invoke
[05:07] <onetinsoldier> glick: try the following command on it and tell us what you get --> file <greenthing>
[05:07] <MrUnix> file = awesome command
[05:07] <CVirus> seanp8088: so i can't remove the usb module
[05:07] <syrius> I think so zcat[1]
[05:07] <zomfgcrazy> Can the tutorial on this page be used to successfully and safely backup a Windows XP partition? (-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 <-)
[05:07] <syrius> but how do I do it?
[05:07] <onetinsoldier> MrUnix: :-)
[05:08] <glick> onetinsoldier, it says its a directory
[05:08] <voidmage> okay i'm really confused
[05:08] <onetinsoldier> glick: understood
[05:08] <voidmage> steam keeps crashing in wine without dumping an error message anywhere
[05:08] <CVirus> seanp8088: more ideas ?
[05:08] <glick> hmm its no big deal
[05:08] <glick> i was just curious why it was green highlighted
[05:09] <seanp8088> CVirus: i'm not sure how to specifically lock down nautalis without implementing your own form of UAC by recompiling it :)
[05:09] <Avenegra> i been using conky and it seems the most perfect monitor ever, but just read that there are also rainmeter, samurize & geektool. Anyone has used them? are they better than conky?
[05:09] <CVirus> seanp8088: I don't think it's related to nautilus .. it is related to udev i guess
[05:10] <zomfgcrazy> i've used samurize. i wasn't a huge fan, but i will admit i didn't take the time to learn all of the ins and outs.
[05:10] <voidmage> does anyone have any ideas about my steam problem, or is there a better channel to ask in?
[05:10] <MrUnix> Oh, it's green highlighted?
[05:10] <MrUnix> I thought you meant the text was green. My bad. Green highlight means something else.
[05:10] <seanp8088> Avenegra: if you've already found the most perfect monitor ever, why would you want to switch?  Conky is pretty damn configurable
[05:10] <echo3> zom: That would proably work with
[05:11] <seanp8088> Avenegra: i've been meaning to write an alert thingy for it in LUA
[05:11] <Avenegra> zomfgcrazy: conky kicks till the end, but i was just curious
[05:11] <zcat[1]> syrius:  I would share a writable directory, then have a small script that takes the contents of that directory and burns it to CD either by checking for a flag file (eg a cron job that looks for a file called 'burn_now') or by sshing to the server machine
[05:11] <Avenegra> i know, it's amazing and plus a joy to play with the config
[05:11] <Avenegra> but.. as said i just wanted to hear from the others
[05:12] <syrius> :/
[05:12] <robb> nvidia-glx-XXX only goes back to 96 on karmic, and the geforce2 ti needs nvidia-glx-71
[05:12] <seanp8088> Avenegra: i thought rainmeter was windows-only and geektool was mac-only
[05:13] <robb> but i think 71 is uncompilable? on 9.10
[05:13] <zcat[1]> syrius:  there may be some samba tool I'm not aware of, but to do this would be only a few lines of bash script and a one line entry in crontab.
[05:14] <seanp8088> robb: did you already try nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[05:14] <Avenegra> dunno, that would left me with samurize. i'll check it's page (i doubt i'll find better though =)
[05:14] <zcat[1]> [ -e /shared_cd/burn_now ] && mkisofs {options} && isoburner {options} && rm /shared_cd/*
[05:15] <Avenegra> thanks!
[05:15] <zcat[1]> I think you could do it with one line in crontab even
[05:16] <needhelp1> does anyone here use something other than nm applet
[05:17] <seanp8088> time to play left4dead2 :)
[05:17] <robb> seanp8088: :) yes
[05:17] <ardchoille> zcat[1]: might want to add a md5sum command so burn_now doesn't get removed if the burn is bad
[05:17] <needhelp1> nm-applet wont work for me, wireless conn works fine in windows.. ubuntus nmapplet wont work
[05:18] <seanp8088> robb: might want to check this out too, it's old :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53966
[05:18] <voidmage> well, new question
[05:18] <seanp8088> robb: here is what i searched for, seems other links might be useful: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=quY&q=ubuntu+two+different+video+cards&btnG=Search&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=
[05:18] <voidmage> does anyone know how to uninstall ie6 in wine? i installed it by accident
[05:19] <MrUnix> !ask | voidmage
[05:19] <MrUnix> voidmage, How did you install it by accident? Come clean man
[05:19] <voidmage> okay fine
[05:19] <voidmage> i was trying to get star trek working and it said to run winetricks ie6
[05:19] <jack5463> what is ubuntu dolphin
[05:19] <robb> yep, read it :)
[05:19] <needhelp1> does anyone use something besides nm applet?
[05:19] <voidmage> MrUnix: and now things that need gecko are running ie6 and crashing after a few seconds
[05:19] <MrUnix> Dolphin is a windows manager found in KDE.
[05:19] <needhelp1> i cant get nm applet to work right.. looking for replacements
[05:20] <seanp8088> needhelp1: use somehing besides... for what?
[05:20] <kinja-sheep> MrUnix: He tripped over something and installed it.
[05:20] <needhelp1> network connections... i cant get wireless connections to work in ubuntu with nm applet
[05:20] <needhelp1> networkmanager applet
[05:20] <voidmage> that too, i don't know what i was thinking
[05:20] <voidmage> :P
[05:20] <MrUnix> kinja-sheep, voidmage lol
[05:20] <MrUnix> Well, since you tainted it with Microsoft stuff I'mma be honest.
[05:20] <MrUnix> You have to kill it.
[05:20] <MrUnix> With fire
[05:21] <infid> when i 'ssh -X me@mypc' it lets me in but running (nautilus, xclock, etc) says: 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong auth'. if i echo $DISPLAY it says 'localhost:10.0' like it hsould though. any ideas? I'm using public keys with passwordauthentication no and xauth says 'using auth file /var/run/gdm/auth-for/infid-vfw80x/database'
[05:21] <seanp8088> needhelp1: <<< http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wicd-wired-and-wireless-network-manager-for-ubuntu.html
[05:22] <seanp8088> needhelp1: here is a guide for 9.10: http://forceflow.ulyssis.be/2009/09/26/wicd-an-alternative-network-manager/ (really easy, just apt-get install wicd and it'll remove nm applet)
[05:23] <seanp8088> needhelp1: i replaced network-manager with WICD because of my wifi disconnecting even with "compatible" madwifi patched drivers
[05:23] <seanp8088> needhelp1: wicd isn't perfect, it has some bugs, but it's better than network-manager if you're having trouble
[05:24] <needhelp1> yeah, IMO this is a widely known issue with ubuntu
[05:24] <seanp8088> needhelp1: yep :) i fix it all the time for friends
[05:25] <needhelp1> you would think gnome would fix this.. or ubuntu would change the default network manager
[05:26] <econdude> Howdy!
[05:26] <MauritianGuy> hello i am back
[05:26] <MauritianGuy> hey coz_ u der
[05:27] <MauritianGuy> i need some help installing a driver
[05:28] <MauritianGuy> it seems that i cannot access any directory beyond Home with my current user or root access
[05:28] <myk_robinson> any Banshee users here? Tried it this evening, and it will consistently use 100% of one of my cores. I can disable all plugins, and it still does it. Does this happen for you as well? Using Rhythmbox with a bunch of plugins doesnt exhibit this behavior
[05:28] <MauritianGuy> somehow i keep getting error no such file or directory
[05:28] <MauritianGuy> it might be my syntax though i am quite new at the basic linux command syntax
[05:29] <Mr_Queue> blah... oh it's easy... yeah a+b = c
[05:29] <MauritianGuy> i already uninstall the current nvidia driver to install the current beta 190.53
[05:30] <MauritianGuy> i already uninstall the current nvidia driver to install the current beta 190.53
[05:30] <MauritianGuy> sorry for repeating
[05:31] <MauritianGuy> so i did the get update and the dist-upgrade and the reboot and the uninstall of the previous driver but i got stuck in accessing the directory where the new driver is located
[05:31] <MauritianGuy> any suggestion?
[05:33] <Akuma> hello, I need some advice regarding computer law
[05:33] <MauritianGuy> computer law
[05:33] <Akuma> yea
[05:33] <MauritianGuy> regarding what exactly its sounds interesting
[05:33] <robb> computer law
[05:33] <Akuma> not sure where else to ask, but ubuntu people seems are usually a knowledgeable bunch
[05:34] <MauritianGuy> i can search a bit if i dont know
[05:34] <MrUnix> Akuma, just spit it out. We'll do our best.
[05:34] <Flannel> Akuma: that's offtopic for this channel.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic (but thats not exactly proper legal counsel either)
[05:34] <MrUnix> *grabs his pipe and a whiskey* This is gonna be cool.
[05:34] <MauritianGuy> lol MrUnix
[05:34] <Akuma> my problem is the following, I have created a website for somebody, the files are located in a remote server for which I am not registered
[05:35] <Akuma> the files however do belong to me given that the person in question has not paid me for my work
[05:35] <Akuma> now, I still have access to my files
[05:35] <Flannel> Akuma: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here (This is ubuntu support only) thanks
[05:35] <Akuma> would it be considered an offense to actually delete the stuff that I own on that webserver
[05:35] <Akuma> ok Flannel, sorry
[05:35] <Akuma> I'll swap
[05:36] <robb> and read the fine print of your contract :)
[05:36] <Akuma> no contract
[05:36] <iflema> Akuma yep... whats the contract
[05:36] <MauritianGuy> depends on where the remote server is located if there are legal laws in the country where the server is located if not u still cant do anything from where u are regardless as u dont have any access to the remote server
[05:36] <iflema> Akuma hmmmm
[05:36] <Akuma> it's located in canada, however I've tagged my websites with md5 lines
[05:37] <Akuma> which I do as a precaution
[05:37] <robb> canada recognizes ownership until payment
[05:37] <MauritianGuy> i think i am right
[05:37] <ardchoille> Flannel has stated that this is OT for this channel folks
[05:37] <Akuma> ok I'll continue this on the other one
[05:37] <Akuma> sorry about that
[05:37] <MrUnix> As it's your intellectual property you may do with it as you wish.
[05:37] <MrUnix> And this is ot
[05:38] <MrUnix> !ot | MrUnix
[05:38] <MrUnix> Ah damn!
[05:38] <MauritianGuy> its beyond me realy i only know that the server is protected by the law in which the country its located
[05:38] <Flannel> MauritianGuy, robb, iflema, MrUnix: Join #ubuntu-offtopic and provide insight there, thanks.
[05:38] <MauritianGuy> thanks Flannel
[05:38] <Salva1> Hello.
[05:38] <justin_> Hi, I have trouble with my ati graphics card FirePro V3750
[05:38] <justin_> join #ati
[05:38] <MauritianGuy> but can anyone help me with installing an Nvidia driver
[05:39] <MauritianGuy> on Ubuntu
[05:39] <ardchoille> !nvidia| MauritianGuy
[05:39] <Salva1> Does anyone know why my Nautilus bookmarks get deleted frequently.
[05:39] <robb> :)
[05:39] <Salva1> ?
[05:39] <robb> oh, ubuntu, why such pain with video cards
[05:39] <myk_robinson> nvm.. updated Banshee to the version in PPA, and it works fine. More normal CPU usage, single digits
[05:39] <zenlunatic> zomfgcrazy: did you figure out the windows image thing
[05:39] <robb> i guess it's all linux's
[05:39] <robb> GPL thing
[05:39] <Salva1> This time I ran into almost 0 KB left in one partition.
[05:39] <ardchoille> Salva1: nautilus bookmarks are contained in ~/.gtk-bookmarks is something deleting that file?
[05:40] <Salva1> It is very annoying, really.
[05:40] <robb> security settings?
[05:40] <ardchoille> MauritianGuy: which nvisia card do you have?
[05:40] <robb> something like "clear history on close"
[05:41] <MauritianGuy> i got one that is ridicously too much for my use but i still want to get it to work its an XFX 9800GT
[05:41] <MauritianGuy> i am trying to install 190.53
[05:41] <ardchoille> MauritianGuy: the Hardware Drivers tool should help you with that
[05:41] <Salva1> It was working OK in the past 3 or so months.
[05:42] <MauritianGuy> i already uninstall driver 173 and 153 as they are not compatible ardchoille
[05:42] <Salva1> But this time I got almost 0KB left in one partition and all the bookmarks are gone.
[05:42] <Salva1> I fear if some other things are gone too.
[05:42] <MauritianGuy> coz_` gave me some instructions couple of minutes ago
[05:43] <MauritianGuy> but i got to the part where i have to use the commant letc/init.d/gdm and i got an error no such fine or directory
[05:43] <robb> oh it's there
[05:43] <myk_robinson> for anyone who care, actually it seems the high cpu usage in Banshe is directly linked to BPM detection. Turn that off, problem disappears. I was able to duplicate it even after the update
[05:43] <robb> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:43] <ardchoille> robb: I don't think that works on Karmic
[05:44] <robb> ardchoille: it did on mine...
[05:44] <robb> tty7 shut down :)
[05:44] <robb> but also i have a messed up configuration
[05:45] <ardchoille> Well, I also could be wrong
[05:47] <d4n1> sup guys, how can i get man pages on fork and other system functions?
[05:47] <Salva1> For what is the Gnome virtual filesystem?
[05:48] <MrUnix> d4n1, I dislike you and your generalized casual greeting toward me.
[05:48] <MrUnix> =P
[05:48] <Flannel> MrUnix: Excuse me?
[05:48] <robb> 'the foreign one'
[05:49] <Bwaah> MrUnix: I like you and your snarky greeting to the newcomer
[05:49] <MrUnix> Flannel, You're exused sir.
[05:49] <MrUnix> Bwaah, thank you sir. And now back to the topic at hand. (whatever that may be)
[05:49] <d4n1> what is wrong MrUnix
[05:49] <ardchoille> MrUnix: Careful
[05:49] <MrUnix> d4n1, Nothing. Just a bit of ribbing towards the newcomer.
[05:49] <d4n1> lol Bwaah
[05:50] <d4n1> lol
[05:50] <firestrider> is intels gfx driver any good in terms of video hardware acceleration
[05:50] <Salva1> I am getting annoyed of losing user directory data,
[05:50] <d4n1> well, i don't know what to say really, but i need man pages on fork, wait, execl
[05:50] <d4n1> etc
[05:50] <robb> firestrider: the hardware behind it is generally crud, for acceleration
[05:51] <Salva1> It makes me want to switch to Windows.
[05:51] <MrUnix> Salva1, What're you losing?
[05:51] <robb> Salva1: stop filling your partitions then