[02:01] <ahoneybun> ScottK: I grab the debian dir from here: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/ and the source from the github page
[02:16] <ahoneybun> mm now I cant make folders...
[02:17] <ahoneybun> I'm having that issue that someone was having the other week
[02:22] <TJ-> Just noticed that System Settings > Applications > Default Applications > File Manager does *not* save its changes. Returning to the applet, or trying to use the newly chosen F.M. result in the original still being selected/used.
[05:56] <sgclark> morning
[06:43] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:45] <sgclark> morning lordievader
[06:45] <lordievader> Hey sgclark, how are you doing?
[06:46] <sgclark> busy! but good. you?
[06:48] <lordievader> Waking up slowely...
[06:48] <lordievader> Busy with kde stuff, or things in general?
[06:51] <sgclark> kde stuff
[06:52] <lordievader> Nice nice :D
[06:52] <sgclark> adding mobile to my CI
[06:53] <lordievader> Mobile? The KDE connect things?
[06:56] <sgclark> android and ubuntu-phone supports so kde applications will get tested on those platforms.
[06:57] <lordievader> Ahh, nice. :)
[07:25] <ovidiu-florin> are these bugs reported in the right place?
[07:25] <ovidiu-florin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1480362
[07:25] <ovidiu-florin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1485998
[07:27] <ovidiu-florin> also, it seems that the SDDM KCM does not work on Kubuntu
[07:27] <ovidiu-florin> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351489
[07:27] <ovidiu-florin> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348998
[08:04] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin: looks right to me
[08:04] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: thank you
[08:04] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: will these bugs be reviewd at some bpoint and be decided wether these will happen or not?
[08:06] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin: yup
[08:07] <ovidiu-florin> awesome
[08:39] <soee_> ahoneybun: if you wantwrking nvidia on wily - install previous driver
[08:48] <sitter> Riddell: didn't I port ubiquity to pyqt5?
[09:04] <Riddell> sitter: no I think you missed it out
[10:04] <Riddell> plasma 5.4.1 up!
[10:15] <sgclark> Riddell: up where?
[10:15] <Riddell> to ubuntu
[10:15] <Riddell> wily
[10:16] <sgclark> ahh cool, perhaps an update is in order, my wily is completely broken atm
[10:17] <soee_> sgclark: why ?
[10:18] <sgclark> beats me, even stumped sitter ...
[10:18] <soee_> :)
[10:18] <sgclark> sddm will not start a new session, just sits there
[10:19] <soee_> Riddell: what about sddm 0.12
[10:19] <soee_> will you use it in Wily ?
[10:20] <Riddell> soee_: dunno, ahoneybun was looking at it last night
[10:20] <Riddell> what's new in it?
[10:20] <soee_> Riddell: http://plfiorini.blogspot.com/2015/09/sddm-0120-released.html
[10:20] <sgclark> if it allows me to login I am all for it heh
[10:22] <soee_> i doubt it will fix your problems :-)
[10:23] <soee_> sgclark: but you have working addm just cant login ?
[10:29] <sgclark> soee_: correct
[10:29] <sgclark> the log was less than useful
[10:48] <soee_> do we have this bug with wrong root passwod in muon reported ?
[10:51] <Riddell> sgclark: tried a reinstall?
[10:51] <sgclark> Riddell: ugh, I have so much set up... trying to avoid that
[10:51] <Riddell> the trick is to script your setup :)
[10:52] <kfunk> sgclark: try mkdir /var/lib/sddm
[10:52] <kfunk> then restart sddm
[10:52] <sgclark> kfunk: will try that, thanks
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:04] <soee_> hiho BluesKaj
[11:05] <BluesKaj> hi soee_
[11:09] <ahoneybun> Riddell: the new sddm has some fix for nvidia prime, poke ximion to package it since he made it for debian already lol
[11:09] <soee_> ahoneybun: what fix exactly ?
[11:10] <soee_> iv seen some readme entries only with sample code
[11:10] <ahoneybun> idk I just saw something about nvidia prime so wanted it
[11:11] <soee_> ahoneybun: seen my message @ nvidai drivers issue ?
[11:11] <ahoneybun> soee_: I just saw your issue with going back to nvidia from intel with nvidia settings
[11:12] <soee_> ahoneybun: i moved back to driver 355.06 and it works just fine
[11:12] <ahoneybun> mmm
[11:12] <ahoneybun> I see no such driver on any of my machines
[11:12] <ahoneybun> just 352 or 355
[11:13] <soee_> ahoneybun: see my comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1492864
[11:13] <soee_> and you can also add yourself as affected
[11:13] <ahoneybun> well since I've not tried I can't say
[11:13] <ahoneybun> also I switched because it would just show a black screen
[11:15]  * ahoneybun seems can't find the nvidia prime in the changlog anymore
[11:17] <soee_> ahoneybun: https://github.com/sddm/sddm/wiki/0.12.0-Release-Announcement there is only mentioned this Add NVIDIA Prime notes - link: https://github.com/sddm/sddm/commit/81f02b8
[11:20] <ahoneybun> yea that
[11:21] <soee_> so thi is not change :) but im always for+1 for new releases
[11:21] <ahoneybun> lol
[11:22] <ahoneybun> I'll look at it later if Riddell/ScottK/ximion are around then
[11:22] <ahoneybun> almost 7:30am here
[12:57] <cyphermox> Riddell: finishing up fixing things here, it's no longer failing all tests locally, I think all that was left was to upload ;)
[13:24] <sitter> Riddell: plz upload kde-cli-tools from wily_archive if you get a chance
[13:24] <sitter> fixes runtime problem
[13:26] <Riddell> onto it
[15:22] <Riddell> Mirv: mitya57: are there packages of qt 5.5 anywhere yet?
[15:23]  * Riddell spots https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-012
[15:40] <TJ-> noticed that System Settings > Applications > Default Applications > File Manager does *not* save its changes. Returning to the applet, or trying to use the newly chosen F.M. result in the original still being selected/used. Tried to report the bug with backtrace but it wanted a KDE account, and I wasn't set up to do that. Anyone else seen this?
[15:41] <TJ-> ** Ignore the backtrace/report bug - that was for a separate but related System Settings crash on exiting it
[16:02] <soee_> guys to encrypt disc it needs to be formated ?
[16:09] <Riddell> yeah it will do
[16:18] <TJ-> soee_: what do you mean, formatted?
[16:19] <soee_> TJ-: yes
[16:20] <TJ-> soee_: huh? I was asking what you meant by 'formatted' ... that's orthogonal to encryption. What kind of encryption?
[16:21] <TJ-> soee_: typically it is block-device > LUKS/dm-crypt > device-mapper-node -> ??something??
[16:21] <TJ-> soee_: ??something?? could be a LVM PV/VG, or any file-system
[16:22] <soee_> TJ-: i havn't been using any encryptions so far, so i'm trygin toget some basic informations
[16:23] <TJ-> OK... you've come to the right person then :)
[16:23] <soee_> ;]
[16:24] <soee_> i'v seen some info that existing partiotions can be encrypted but it requires a lot more effort
[16:24] <soee_> and using fresh/erased one is much simpler
[16:24] <TJ-> soee_: Example: On my system (500GB SSD) there is a GUID Partition Table (GPT) with 1 BIOS-BOOT, 2 EFI-SP, 3 /boot/ 4 VG_OS, 5 VG_DATA
[16:24] <TJ-> 3,4,5 are all encrypted using LUKS/dm-crypt
[16:25] <TJ-> GRUB boot-loader supports LUKS/dm-crypt including for its own root file-system (/boot/)
[16:25] <soee_> i have 128 GB ssd for windows os and / and also hdd with 4 partitions
[16:26] <TJ-> So at boot it goes BIOS > read sector 0 boot-strap > bootstrap reads BIOS BOOT partition (which is GRUB core.img) > core.img asks for a LUKS passphrase to unlock sda3 (/boot/).
[16:26] <soee_> TJ is it true that using 1 hdd where 1 partition is encrypted and second not is not a good idea ?
[16:27] <TJ-> soee_: Makes no difference; only encrypt what you want to protect while the system is powered off.
[16:27] <TJ-> soee_: If you want to avoid malacious tampering with the kernl images then encrypted /boot/ + rootfs makes sense
[16:27] <soee_> hmm, how hard woul dbe to encrypt existing patitons and their content ?
[16:28] <TJ-> soee_: if you just want to protect some data, then maybe a partition for data only (I have sda5 > LUKS > VG_DATA > /home/)
[16:29] <soee> TJ-: what VG_DATA means?
[16:29] <TJ-> soee: It is very difficult because you've got to shrink and shuffle the existing file-system data around to create space. It's much easier - especially for a novice - to move the partition to another device, encrypted the now-empty partition, configure it, and move the file-system data back
[16:29] <TJ-> soee: An LVM Volume Group called 'VG_DATA' where I keep 'data' file-systems
[16:30] <TJ-> soee: in sda4 I have 'VG_OS' LVM Volume Group which contains Logical Volumes (LVs) for the rootfs, /var/, /usr/local/, /var/lib/, /var/cache/ and others
[16:34] <TJ-> soee: For file-based encryption (not block device) there is ecryptfs. That allows in-place encryption to be added
[16:39] <soee> uh to much information for a first time :)
[16:39] <sitter> Riddell, yofel, shadeslayer: I need a preliminary review on lp:~apachelogger/ubiquity/breezeification
[16:39] <shadeslayer> you're alive!
[17:36] <Mirv> Riddell: rightly spotted. I'll push another kwin in there now.
[17:47] <vip> anybody on laptop with one external monitor under wily?
[18:01] <kfunk> <-
[18:01] <kfunk> vip:
[18:13] <vip> kfunk: do you connect/disconnect that external display? or do you have it connected all the time?
[18:14] <vip> because when friend of mine connects display, he'd to configure screen position everytime
[18:28] <clivejo> anyone able to tell me how to make a MakeFile from a Makefile.am ?
[18:36] <yofel> clivejo: that's a file from GNU autotools, you should have a configure.sh in there, if not, maybe a bootstrap.sh or autogen.sh or so
[18:38] <clivejo> I have configure and configure.ac
[18:39] <yofel> run the configure
[18:39] <yofel> that'll generate the Makefile
[18:39] <clivejo> getting an error - configure: error: Missing pjproject files
[18:40] <clivejo> and no MakeFile
[18:40] <clivejo> just MakeFile.am and Makefile.in
[18:41] <yofel> well, it won't make it if there's errors..
[18:41] <yofel> can you pastebin the whole output please?
[18:41] <clivejo> :(
[18:44] <clivejo> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12315748/
[18:48] <sitter> ---> ubiquity revu plz <---
[18:48] <sgclark> sitter: no!
[18:49] <sitter> BREEZY YOUBEECUTE!
[18:49]  * sitter looks at yofel with a passive aggressive smile
[18:49] <sitter> uh uh
[18:50] <sitter> sgclark: I have super speed on the intertubes
[18:50] <sgclark> ?!?!
[18:50] <sitter> I am on the highnet now
[18:50] <sitter> oh I spoke too soon
[18:50] <sgclark> lol
[18:53] <clivejo> grrrr
[18:56] <sitter> don't grrr at me young man!
[18:57] <clivejo> tell me why!
[18:57] <clivejo> why wont this work!
[18:57]  * sitter lights a candle
[18:58] <sitter> oh mighty sgclark, sprinkle us with knowledge on building things
[18:58] <ahoneybun> sgclark: here is the new telegram group
[18:58] <ahoneybun> https://telegram.me/joinchat/Bpq8FwCyZ1lp9y1_-cf1Wg
[18:58] <sitter> telugrym
[18:58] <sitter> ahoneybun: what's new about the group?
[18:59] <ahoneybun> the other one has that troll in it
[18:59] <ahoneybun> plus I have a bot in the new one
[18:59] <ahoneybun> well a few bots
[18:59] <ahoneybun> 2
[18:59] <ahoneybun> one I need to learn to program
[18:59] <sitter> I think the way to not have trolls is to not publicly post invite links :P
[19:00] <ahoneybun> well I don't have her number
[19:00] <ahoneybun> or yours
[19:01] <yofel> clivejo: try installing libpjproject-dev
[19:01] <yofel> sitter: I'm overloaded as well :(
[19:01] <yofel> lets see
[19:03] <clivejo> yofel: thank you soooo much!
[19:03] <sgclark> err I need that invite link sent to my phone lol
[19:03] <clivejo> thats been bugging me for days!
[19:04] <yofel> clivejo: tip, if it asks for $something, run 'apt-file find $something' - that might actually something
[19:04] <yofel> *actually find something
[19:05] <clivejo> I thought it was files in the project
[19:05] <yofel> it's one of my more-or-less-random guess strategies :P
[19:05] <clivejo> Ive been going through all the documents
[19:05] <yofel> actually, configure is a shellscript. You can just look into what it's actually looking for
[19:05] <sitter> yofel: oh mighty yofel, the KDE VDG besieges thee for a review and bows before your might
[19:06] <yofel> XD
[19:09] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ping
[19:12] <sitter> doko: I think I found the problem wiht kubuntu-driver-manager not building
[19:12] <sitter> looking into a solution
[19:15] <clivejo> grrr
[19:15] <soee> ovidiu-florin: ping
[19:15] <clivejo> what is opendht/crypto.h
[19:16] <ovidiu-florin> soee: pong
[19:17] <soee> ovidiu-florin: did you have any of those 1+ devices?
[19:17] <ovidiu-florin> I have a OnePlus One, if that's what you're asking
[19:18] <soee> ovidiu-florin: yes, how are they compared to Samsung Galaxy X
[19:18] <soee> ?
[19:21] <sgclark> sitter: where are the cool kids hanging out?
[19:22] <ahoneybun> Samsung Galaxy X soee?
[19:22] <sitter> sgclark: africa
[19:22] <sitter> altho
[19:22] <sitter> depends on which cool kids you mean
[19:22] <soee> ahoneybun: S3, S4, S5 etc. :)
[19:23] <ahoneybun> soee: oh well the S6 might put it out because of age but it blows the S3-S5 for sure
[19:23] <ahoneybun> I have it as welll
[19:23] <sgclark> sitter: what floor is that lol
[19:23] <ovidiu-florin> soee: IMO all Samsung devices are cheap and rainbow coloured crap
[19:23] <ahoneybun> *well
[19:23] <sitter> I literally do not know
[19:23] <ovidiu-florin> when it comes to smartphones
[19:23] <ahoneybun> I'm looking at the Note 5
[19:23] <ovidiu-florin> and by cheap I don't mean the price
[19:23] <sgclark> ok I will wander the halls :)
[19:24] <ahoneybun> S6 and other new devices are built better I heard
[19:24] <sgclark> I have the note edge and I love it
[19:24] <soee> i need to replace my old S3 with something new :)
[19:24] <ahoneybun> I've always liked the concept of the S Pen
[19:25] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: are you a moderator on the Kubuntu mail list?
[19:25] <ovidiu-florin> kubuntu devel*
[19:25] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: negative
[19:25] <sitter> for all I know only jon is
[19:25] <shadeslayer> sgclark: how much alcohol have you had yet
[19:26] <sgclark> second beer
[19:26] <shadeslayer> That entirely dictates what floor everyone is on
[19:26] <shadeslayer> Aha
[19:26] <shadeslayer> Probably like the top one the :P
[19:26] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: I still haven't finished my first
[19:26] <shadeslayer> As people get more drunk, things progressively move closer to the beer
[19:26] <sgclark> lol
[19:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: are you at randa?
[19:26] <ovidiu-florin> nope
[19:27] <ovidiu-florin> but I drink beer and code
[19:27] <ovidiu-florin> :D
[19:27] <ovidiu-florin> is vHanda at Randa?
[19:27] <sgclark> no
[19:27] <ovidiu-florin> damn...
[19:27] <ovidiu-florin> I need his feedback
[19:42] <sitter> doko: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf-kde/1.0.1-3ubuntu1 this should fix the kubuntu-driver-manager rebuilds for python 3.5
[19:42] <doko> sitter, ok, I'll give it back then
[19:53] <soee> Riddell: is there some public todo list for Plasma 5.5 ?
[19:58] <valorie> I'm a mod on Kubuntu ML - is there a problem
[19:58] <valorie> ?
[19:58] <shadeslayer> does not compute
[19:59] <clivejo> yofel: how do I pre-compile with debuild ?
[19:59] <yofel> huh?
[19:59] <shadeslayer> you just run debuild to get debs?
[19:59] <clivejo> opendht/crypto.h is a separate project and needs to be complied first
[20:00] <clivejo> I guess I need to mod the rules to build it before the main project?
[20:00] <yofel> seperate project?
[20:01] <clivejo> in the contrib folder
[20:01] <yofel> urgh
[20:01] <yofel> sorry, no time to dig into that now
[20:01] <clivejo> no problem
[20:02] <clivejo> Im totally confused now, think Ill leave it for the night
[21:51] <jussi> good morning all
[22:10]  * genii makes more coffee
[22:23] <valorie> good idea!
[22:23] <valorie> moar coffees
[23:05] <valorie> now that I have internets again, time to run updates
[23:07] <jussi> internet.... now that would be nice...