[11:20] <amcsi_work> like those do their ui
[11:20] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Your script could drop permissions
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> amcsi_work:  ncurses is the normal tool to do fancy text type guis.
[11:20] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: What is your script?
[11:21] <amcsi_work> ah okay, thanks!
[11:21] <amcsi_work> does vim also use curses?
[11:21] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Try to change the perm to 777 for all
[11:21] <RogueCoder> there must be some way to fix this package problem.. there's tons of stuff I'm unable to install
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> amcsi_work:  its a rather common library that many cli apps use
[11:21] <RogueCoder> all returning the same dependency issue (only with different packages)
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> amcsi_work:  https://www.google.com/search?q=ncurses+examples&client=ubuntu&hs=dBB&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vhhEUqDlDcfZqQGrzoDACg&ved=0CFAQsAQ&biw=933&bih=874&dpr=1    Ncurses Examples
[11:21] <linu> Dr_Willis, sorry i could'n get you?
[11:22] <Bo_DK> script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158315/
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> linu:  wine help in #winehq  look at the wine app database to see what apps work in wine
[11:22] <RogueCoder> now I just tried to install ruby-rvm and it complains about "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[11:23] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: don't know what PWM does though. I'd say change the perms first, try, and if not working it means that whatever driver s populating this /sys entry is failing
[11:23] <amcsi_work> thanks!
[11:23] <Bo_DK> PWM=Pulse Width Modulation
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> RogueCoder:  done a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' recently?  if not try them and try installing it again.
[11:23] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: In which case, if dmesg is blank
[11:24] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: I know what it means but not what the library does (drop priviledges etc).
[11:24] <CatKiller> So if dmesg is blank
[11:24] <CatKiller> you need to debug the driver I'm afraid (or find somebody who did before)
[11:24] <Bo_DK> should have said that i'm new to linux
[11:24] <Bo_DK> and new to programming
[11:24] <RogueCoder> Dr_Willis: I've done clean, update, upgrade and dist-upgrade several times today
[11:24] <RogueCoder> while trying to solving this issue
[11:24] <CatKiller> The bottom line here is that the "permission denied" might not be an *actual* file permission iossue
[11:24] <CatKiller> but an error the driver returns
[11:25] <CatKiller> when trying to write to this sysfs file
[11:25] <CatKiller> files in /sys are not real "files"
[11:25] <CatKiller> they are functions in kernel drivers that you can access over a "file like" interface
[11:25] <Bo_DK> black speach
[11:25] <Bo_DK> :-D
[11:25] <CatKiller> So you can "configure" kernel drivers or "talk" to them by writing files and reading them
[11:25] <CatKiller> it's a kernel configuration interface
[11:25] <Bo_DK> for me the key issue is to know what to do where to mae it work
[11:26] <lordzett> lo
[11:26] <CatKiller> So try to change the permissions with chmod 777 file
[11:26] <CatKiller> and try again
[11:26] <metaphysician> I think I found a mistake in this wiki article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet In section "From a local server" the ISO to download and loop-mount should be an alternate image and not a desktop image. Someone please update/correct it.
[11:26] <Bo_DK> on my script?
[11:26] <CatKiller> if this doesn't work, then I'd say intensive google first
[11:26] <Bo_DK> or?
[11:26] <CatKiller> no in the Ubuntu shell
[11:26] <CatKiller> sudo chmod 777 <path_to_file>
[11:26] <Bo_DK> and what file should i do it on?
[11:26] <RogueCoder> Dr_Willis: any ideas? :)
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> metaphysician:  im not sure the alternative image exists any more.
[11:27] <CatKiller> the file that your script reports it has no access to
[11:27] <Bo_DK> ah
[11:27] <CatKiller> "/sys/something/something"
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> RogueCoder:  not really. theres been like 5 people tonight with apt issues.. all fixed by doing the update/upgrade. ;)
[11:28] <Bo_DK> yeah... need to figure which one
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> RogueCoder:  theres some way you can determine why  that package is held. but i cant recall the command
[11:28] <RogueCoder> i've also tried apt-get check
[11:28] <RogueCoder> and it reports no errors
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> Bo_DK:  hard core way would be to do it for everything in   /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/    :) but thats a Little extrme
[11:28] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: It's in the error emssage
[11:29] <Bo_DK> got it
[11:29] <Bo_DK> lets see
[11:29] <metaphysician> !alternate
[11:30] <ObrienDave> !42
[11:30] <Miladiir> :D
[11:30] <metaphysician> so how do I install from the desktop ISO image from a network?
[11:31] <JuJuBee> I just ran apt-get update and get the following errors...  http://pastebin.com/iTTPwbET  I tried adding the key for the fist error and still get them.
[11:31] <Bo_DK> chmod 777 on '/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots' did not help
[11:31] <Bo_DK> still no access
[11:32] <Bo_DK> why not just remove access control all together
[11:32] <Bo_DK> free access to everything for everyone that can access it
[11:32] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Same error message?
[11:33] <Bo_DK> yes
[11:33] <CatKiller> try to write to it from the shell using "echo"
[11:33] <CatKiller> first go to root
[11:33] <CatKiller> "sudo passwd root"
[11:33] <CatKiller> set a password for root
[11:33] <CatKiller> and then "su"
[11:33] <CatKiller> enter the password
[11:33] <FloodBot1> CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <Bo_DK> ok...
[11:33] <CatKiller> then 'echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots'
[11:33] <Bo_DK> back in a few
[11:33] <CatKiller> see if you get the same problem
[11:34] <CatKiller> I'd say the driver simply doesn't accept your command
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> you dont need to set a password for root.
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo -s' will give you a root shell
[11:34] <ObrienDave> JuJuBee... it looks like you will have to go through all of those and reinstall the gpg keys
[11:34] <CatKiller> Dr_Willis: True true, even better
[11:34] <JuJuBee> ObrienDave: I tried to install a few and re ran update and still get all of them
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> sudo -i    is a little better, uses your user's profile?
[11:35] <Bo_DK> hmm
[11:35] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:35] <Bo_DK> bash: echo: write error: No such file or directory
[11:35] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu#
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  i never can rember. ;)
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Bo_DK: does the file exist?
[11:36] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Also this is a known issue
[11:36] <CatKiller> https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python/issues/17
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> I just see way way to many guides, other disrtos docs, and sites use 'sudo su'  i kepe thinking -s because  sudo su has s's in it
[11:36] <Bo_DK> this is just over my head an understanding
[11:36] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Use "tab" to make sure you have the right file, maybe I didn't paste it right
[11:36] <Bo_DK> will read that link
[11:36] <CatKiller> What is the version of the adafruit you use? (the library)?
[11:36] <CatKiller> fixed in 0.0.14
[11:37] <CatKiller> 2 month ago which is not that long
[11:37] <Bo_DK> CatKiller: just installed the lib today
[11:37] <Bo_DK> so assume its newest
[11:38] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: From where?
[11:38] <Bo_DK> adafruit
[11:38] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: What version?
[11:38] <Bo_DK> followed their install guide
[11:38] <Bo_DK> dont know
[11:38] <Bo_DK> assume newest since i did install today
[11:38] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: "newest" is really vague
[11:38] <Bo_DK> did this: http://learn.adafruit.com/setting-up-io-python-library-on-beaglebone-black/installation-on-ubuntu
[11:38] <CatKiller> maybe it's the "newest" of the stable
[11:38] <CatKiller> which is 1 year odl :p
[11:39] <RogueCoder> here's a copy/paste of the output when trying to get ruby-rvm installed http://pastebin.com/LDV19ZL6
[11:39] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: By the way, what are the permissions on that file
[11:39] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Now that you ran "chmod"
[11:39] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Did they change at all?
[11:39]  * RogueCoder hopes someone would have a look
[11:41] <Bo_DK> CatKiller: how do i make chmod display current premission? tried --help but not clear on it
[11:42] <Miladiir> run info over your file maybe?
[11:42] <Miladiir> or ls-l
[11:42] <Bo_DK> and how do i do a simple update of the lib to 0.0.14 ?
[11:43] <Bo_DK> info command not found
[11:43] <Miladiir> yeah sorry, use ls -l
[11:43] <Bo_DK> ls -L just made it appear green
[11:43] <Miladiir> lowercase l
[11:43] <Bo_DK> yeah
[11:43] <JuJuBee> I tried reinstalling the keys from my gpg errors post and still get errors for all of the same keys.
[11:43] <Bo_DK> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root
[11:44] <JuJuBee> http://pastebin.com/iTTPwbET
[11:44] <Miladiir> thats 777
[11:44] <Miladiir> owned by root of user group root
[11:44] <Bo_DK> funny there is no access still
[11:44] <Miladiir> there we go
[11:44] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: And from a shell if you echo anything do you get "Permission denied"?
[11:44] <Bo_DK> hate security
[11:44] <Miladiir> did you issue whatever you try to do with root privileges? try to do it with sudo again
[11:44] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:44] <Bo_DK> bash: echo: write error: No such file or directory
[11:44] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu#
[11:45] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Ok, are you sure you're writing to the correct file?
[11:45] <Miladiir> try sudo echo ........
[11:45] <Bo_DK> same deal
[11:45] <CatKiller> Can you use "tab" to auto complete the file opath
[11:45] <CatKiller> echo 1 > /sys/<press tab> etc
[11:45] <Bo_DK> yes
[11:45] <CatKiller> until you let tab autocomplete "slots" (type "slo"
[11:45] <CatKiller> )
[11:45] <CatKiller> same thing?
[11:45] <Bo_DK> yes
[11:45] <Miladiir> hmmm
[11:46] <CatKiller> That's what the driver replies
[11:46] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# sudo echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:46] <Bo_DK> echo: write error: No such file or directory
[11:46] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu#
[11:47] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: So maybe you need to echo something valid
[11:47] <Bo_DK> what about disable sercurity?
[11:47] <Bo_DK> ie no check on anything
[11:47] <Bo_DK> no need for it anyway
[11:47] <Miladiir> you eventually have to learn to deal with it
[11:47] <CatKiller> it's not a security issue
[11:47] <CatKiller> try that: echo am33xx_pwm > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:48] <CatKiller> as root yes
[11:48] <Bo_DK> that did go ok
[11:48] <Bo_DK> no errors
[11:48] <CatKiller> or this
[11:48] <CatKiller> echo bone_pwm_P8_13 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:48] <CatKiller> see
[11:48] <CatKiller> not a security issue
[11:48] <FloodBot1> CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:49] <Bo_DK> so the issue is?
[11:49] <CatKiller> So the library here is either writing the wrong data (but I don't think so otherwise it would return "No such file or directory"
[11:49] <CatKiller> or it is genuinely missing permissions
[11:49] <CatKiller> in which case you need to find out its version
[11:50] <Bo_DK> considering hiring someone....
[11:50] <Bo_DK> my linux skills stinks
[11:50] <Bo_DK> more than  a skunk
[11:50] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: what are you trying to do?
[11:50] <Miladiir> i was wondering the same thing
[11:50] <Bo_DK> what i'm trying is to run a python script.... its just not working
[11:50] <Bo_DK> and i cant figure shit out
[11:51] <metaphysician> Is difference between systems using PAE and non-PAE kernel, noticeable?
[11:51] <Bo_DK> dont know what is wrong
[11:51] <Miladiir> have a link?
[11:51] <Bo_DK> yep
[11:51] <Bo_DK> hold on
[11:51] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: By the way, did you checkout the #beaglebone
[11:52] <CatKiller> channel?
[11:52] <Bo_DK> hold on
[11:52] <CatKiller> Pointing them to this link: https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python/issues/17
[11:52] <elango> i have wrongly mounted the pendrive on home directory,now i cant open the directories under home,somebody help me ya
[11:52] <Bo_DK> http://pastebin.com/seXc2Qdh
[11:53] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Also in your script can you add (below import): "print Adafruit_BBIO.__version__"?
[11:53] <Bo_DK> CatKiller: yes have been there.. simple answer from them: read teh f.... manual and learn it
[11:53] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Try that
[11:53] <Miladiir> I cannot help much here as I dont even have a clue what Adafruit is, I guess a devboard?
[11:53] <Bo_DK> Miladiir: a company
[11:54] <Miladiir> Yeah, just look through the manual. Its a pain in the ass, but everyone has to go through that phase of Linux eventually
[11:54] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: What's the version?
[11:54] <Bo_DK> slow down
[11:54] <Bo_DK> i'm not that fast
[11:54] <Miladiir> take your time
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:55] <Miladiir> hi
[11:55] <Bo_DK> so add to script: "print Adafruit_BBIO.__version__"?
[11:55] <Bo_DK> without the quotes?
[11:55] <Bo_DK> and without the ?
[11:56] <Miladiir> try it ^^
[11:56] <Bo_DK> inserted raw it gives a syntax error
[11:57] <DJ_U|Laptop> Managed to install 13.04 overnight, but it hangs immediately after login.  Mouse and keyboard inop, no HDD activity/
[11:59] <Bo_DK> anyone up for having a poke in my system?
[12:00] <compdoc> Adafruit? that arudino?
[12:00] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: which version of Python are you using?  Which distro of Linux?
[12:01] <Bo_DK> Distro: ubuntu
[12:01] <Bo_DK> hardware: BBB
[12:01] <Bo_DK> so no not arduino
[12:02] <Bo_DK> BBB=Beagle Bone Black
[12:03] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: which version of Ubuntu?
[12:03] <Bo_DK> have no clue
[12:04] <Bo_DK> again i stink regarding linux
[12:04] <gordonjcp> well that's possibly part of the problem
[12:04] <Bo_DK> just wanted to build a tracker platform
[12:05] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: so, find out exactly what you're running maybe?
[12:06] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: effectively so far you've given us "I don't know what it is but it doesn't work"
[12:07] <Bo_DK> gordonjcp: yep... cause i dont know anymore and just so damm frustrated
[12:07] <Bo_DK> could give ip and port for ssh....
[12:07] <Bo_DK> that i know too
[12:07] <demon-k2008> Люди здрассте!
[12:07] <omg_scout> Bo_DK: still no luck?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Bo_DK: then how can we know anything, if you don't know...
[12:07] <DJ_U|Laptop> I don't ever remember struggling with linux anywhere close to this.  :(
[12:08] <demon-k2008> Есть кто из России?
[12:08] <gordonjcp> !ru | demon-k2008
[12:08] <demon-k2008>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:09] <demon-k2008> join #ubuntu-ru
[12:10] <DJ_U|Laptop> Anyone have an idea as to why 13.04 would freeze upon login?
[12:10] <exnntech> Looking for help and info on Landscape service
[12:10] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: total freeze?
[12:11] <compdoc> exnntech, never used it, but theres info on the website
[12:11] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: I mean can you log to text terminals?
[12:11] <exnntech> DJ_U|Laptop: It could be caused by not being able to use Unity!
[12:11] <DJ_U|Laptop> It's a toal freeze, both keyboard and mouse are unresponsive, I have to hit the reset button on the machine
[12:12] <DJ_U|Laptop> total*
[12:12] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: Laptop?
[12:12] <DJ_U|Laptop> Negative, desktop
[12:14] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: This is propably hardware. Something unsupported, wrong drivers or broken part
[12:15] <DJ_U|Laptop> I wouldn't doubt it.  I wonder if using a set of commands at the grub loader might be able to somehow get around this.
[12:16] <DIoX|DaZ> 205
[12:16] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: I would start with taking my gfx card away and then manipulating ram chips
[12:17] <DJ_U|Laptop> gfx card isn't an option, no onboard and I don't have another PCIe GPU I could use.
[12:18] <mn3na3a> guys, anyone can help me with i8kmon configuration file?
[12:18] <tyler_d> !ask
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: what GPU do you use?
[12:23] <DJ_U|Laptop> eVga 8800 GTS 640 MB
[12:23] <mn3na3a> what is the best config for i8kmon file
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: is the CPU an ivy/sandybridge?
[12:24] <gemma22> Hello everybody. Im going to open a small store to sell shoes and i need a computer for the ticketing, stock system, give invoices to the clients and all that, My question is, may i use free ubuntu to achive that so i dont have to pay microsoft? Is there software in the ubuntu repositories to run a very small bussiness as described and control my stock with barcode scanner and those things? English is my second language, what keywords
[12:24] <JohnVonNeumann>  books4electricians.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> gemma22: yes its totally free
[12:24] <DJ_U|Laptop> no, it is an Intel P35 chipset CPU, Q6600
[12:24] <JohnVonNeumann> does anyone no how 2 reach this blog : books4electricians.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: did you install the proprietary video driver or are you yet to do that?
[12:25] <tyler_d> gemma22, that would be a POS system, it stands for Point of Sale, there is a free one, but certainly this is off-topic as it's more related to software, not the Operating System
[12:25] <DJ_U|Laptop> That was one thing I couldn't do during the install, network was down for a bit overnight, but since it's a total hang, I can't do any installs.
[12:25] <mn3na3a> D
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: at the login screen, press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login there, run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: full upgrades and installs the proprietary nvidia driver
[12:27] <gemma22> oh thank you very much both ActionParsnip, tyler_d. Im happy to hear is possible, i understand the offtopic question to, i thank for the POS nomenclature that will help me search for what i need. Im just updating my old ubuntu and will search and try right away. ty again
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> gemma22: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/incopos/
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> one example
[12:28] <crunchbang> pessoal
[12:29] <tyler_d> gemma22, found through google --> http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensourcepos/
[12:29] <DJ_U|Laptop> do I enter all the commands at once?
[12:29] <gemma22> ty actionparsnip, very nice link, im waiting for the last long term distribution to update and i will download right away
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: if you wnat
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: each command runs after the other
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: using a wired connection will make things easier
[12:30] <gemma22> tyler_d: nice too, and i have some sql experience, i will try both
[12:30] <tyler_d> gemma22, gl
[12:30] <DJ_U|Laptop> It's a desktop, so the only connection is wired.  :)
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: cool, easy days
[12:32] <tirengarfio> I want to buy a laptop and install ubuntu, should I have any problem if the computer has windows 8 installed by default? or can I install ubuntu in any laptop?
[12:33] <tyler_d> tirengarfio, efi-boot
[12:33] <gemma22> one other question, i ordered allready the box where the change goes, it seems to be opened automaticly by the computer but it has a cable like a telephone cable, do i have to install an old phone modem in my computer to open the money storage? i though i would be usb or something, im socked with the tipe of conexion the money drawr has
[12:34] <MoleMan> Could someone help me work out why my system doesn't resume from hibernate? I have set the resume= tag in Grub,might it be related to the swap being encrypted? the ouput from blikd for the swap is "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: (blahblah"
[12:34] <tyler_d> gemma22, it's a telephone cable indeed. :)
[12:35] <gemma22> tyler_d: lol, so i have to call the drawer to be opened? hahaha, i completely dont understand
[12:36] <tyler_d> gemma22, it works on a simple signal from the terminal(computer)
[12:37] <gemma22> tyler_d: i understand, i will learn weather the software im studing can send that signal and install and modem on my computer
[12:43] <gavin__> ...
[12:43] <zotta> hi, i am trying to run apt-get upgrade on "Ubuntu precise (12.04.3 LTS)"
[12:43] <zotta> and it hangs:
[12:44] <cfhowlett> zotta, error messages?
[12:44] <zotta> none
[12:44] <zotta> just hangs
[12:44] <zotta> Setting up udev (175-0ubuntu9.4) ...
[12:44] <cfhowlett> zotta, running upgrade via terminal?
[12:44] <zotta> ssh
[12:45] <cfhowlett> zotta, weird that no error msg came back.  I'd guess a mirror issue ...
[12:46] <tirengarfio> tyler_d, thanks, I will say it in another way: is there any way to test if is possible to install linux in that laptop before removing windows 8?
[12:46] <zotta> the process udev.postinst never terminates
[12:46] <zotta> and uses 0% cpu
[12:47] <tyler_d> tirengarfio, you can boot to a live cd
[12:47] <cfhowlett> zotta, do a kill -9 on that process and run upgrade again ...
[12:47] <zotta> i did a kill (without the -9)
[12:47] <zotta> and it still does not work
[12:48] <tyler_d> tirengarfio, or alternately you could attempt to install it on a usb key or removable hard-disk... from my experience with my little sony vaio it was a pain in the backside to fight through.  This system will be only POS terminal (no games, photoshop...). I do not need full graphics support, do i?
[12:48] <theadmin> zotta: If still fails, try with -SEGV, although that's cheating
[12:49] <zotta> dpkg: error processing udev (--configure):
[12:49] <zotta>  subprocess installed post-installation script was killed by signal (Killed)
[12:49] <theadmin> gemma22: Eh. The desktop might fail to load. Suggest to stay on 12.04 until 2D is properly supported by Unity (next LTS, 14.04, should have support)
[12:50] <zotta> if i run the upgrade again, it halts again
[12:50] <zotta> do i even need tu upgrade udev?
[12:50] <zotta> what the hack is udev for?
[12:51] <zotta> can i somehow tell the package manager to leave out the udev upgrade?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !udev
[12:51] <gemma22> Theadmin: do u recomend then to abort my update? i still on the phase of downloading packages
[12:51] <theadmin> gemma22: Yeah, I generally suggest to stay on LTS releases unless you really can't wait to see the new features
[12:51] <spacecamp> if you want everything to work the best, is it best to run LTS rather then the latest release?
[12:51] <theadmin> gemma22: You can upgrade directly to 14.04 when it's out
[12:52] <theadmin> spacecamp: See my message to gemma22
[12:52] <spacecamp> cuss my friend said lts is for servers
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !lts|spacecamp, not exactly.
[12:52] <zotta> cfhowlett: could you be more explicit?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> spacecamp, LTS is long term support so is not so cutting/bleeding edge.  packages are designed for stability
[12:52] <theadmin> spacecamp: Generally, LTS releases are very very stable and are suitable for server or enterprise use, as well as usual users who just want a stable system. Regular releases are less stable, but have new features.
[12:53] <theadmin> spacecamp: Honestly, there's no features in 13.04 that aren't in 12.04 that are worth mentioning
[12:53] <gemma22> theadmin: perfect them, i will follow your suggestions, im very happy with my actual features, im not a computer geek. thank you.
[12:53] <cfhowlett> gemma22, is the way to go then.
[12:53] <spacecamp> right, okay.. thanks theadmin
[12:54] <zotta> Can someone tell me how to make apt-get leave out the udev upgrade?
[12:54] <gemma22> wow then im ready to download and test some POS software, thank you! see you around!
[12:54] <cfhowlett> gemma22, I run LTS only so I update only every 2 years instead of every 6 months.  few headaches and my system works great.
[12:54] <spacecamp> zotta, you could use synaptic
[12:54] <spacecamp> and just uncheck what you don't want?
[12:54] <zotta> spacecamp: I have no gui
[12:54] <spacecamp> update then jjust purge what you don't want?
[12:54] <theadmin> zotta: You can hold the package: echo "udev hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[12:54] <DJ_U|Laptop> upgrade portion is running for the most part, smooth, though there was one message regarding x11, but as I'm in text mode, that's a given.  :p
[12:55] <spacecamp> idk, i will let the pros help you : 3
[12:55] <CatKiller> spacecamp: purging udev *might* not be the best idea ;)
[12:55] <spacecamp> lol
[12:55] <CatKiller> also because many packages probably have dependencies on it it would probably purge your entire instal l ;
[12:55] <zotta> theadmin: and how do i undo it, if i ever need to?
[12:55] <spacecamp> right
[12:56] <spacecamp> yeah prolly have a good point lol
[12:56] <theadmin> zotta: echo "udev install" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[12:59] <spacecamp> CatKiller, theadmin :do you guys run ubuntu?
[12:59] <theadmin> spacecamp: I do.
[12:59] <CatKiller> sure
[12:59] <spacecamp> 12/04?
[12:59] <CatKiller> yep
[12:59] <spacecamp> cool
[12:59] <theadmin> spacecamp: Nah, I'm running 13.04, I'm  more of the "latest features" kind of person
[13:00] <spacecamp> oh, okay. idk i was messing around the other day with 13.04 and when i updated the kernal it was a laggy POS
[13:00] <spacecamp> so i think i will run 12.04
[13:01] <spacecamp> downloading it right now to mess around with in a vm
[13:01] <spacecamp> when i ran ubunut 24/7 like 5 months or so ago, i ran 12.04 and it worked great.. so...
[13:01] <spacecamp> ubuntu*
[13:02] <BluesKaj> running any OS in a vm makes it kaggy :)
[13:02] <spacecamp> well, this was not in one
[13:03] <spacecamp> it was barebone
[13:03] <BluesKaj> or laggy as the case may be
[13:03] <spacecamp> idk, could of been alot of things tho
[13:03] <theadmin> spacecamp: 13.04 currently has no 2D support, thus your GPU needs to have 3D acceleration. Being worked on
[13:03] <theadmin> spacecamp: So yeah
[13:03] <spacecamp> i think i will run stable debian,+ubuntu from now on...
[13:03] <wreiner> hi - i want to boot from a logical volume which resides on an encrypted physical volume. but upon booting i don't get to enter my password, instead I'm being dropped to initram shell complaining no root found. when i check my initrd there is no cryptsetup binary in it. does anyone have some hints on that?
[13:04] <spacecamp> ubuntu LTS that is...
[13:04] <bl4ckdu5t> How can I set permissions recursively for all the files and folders in a folder
[13:04] <ronin> what would you recommend OpenJDK or Sun Java
[13:05] <wreiner> i can post all needed information to pastebin without problems
[13:05] <theadmin> bl4ckdu5t: chmod -R blah
[13:05] <BluesKaj> heh, I'm running kubuntu 13.10 beta2 and it's real fast , even on this old clunker
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ronin: is openjdk gives what you need then use it. There is a PPA for Oracle Java (Sun don't own java now)
[13:05] <theadmin> ronin: OpenJDK works nicely for the most part
[13:05] <spacecamp> nice BluesKaj
[13:05] <spacecamp> all hardware is diff i guesss,
[13:05] <spacecamp> using newist kernal?
[13:06] <spacecamp> stable not beta kernal i mean?
[13:06] <CatKiller> wreiner: Did Ubuntu create and encrypt this LVM LV?
[13:06] <CatKiller> wreiner: Or is that a "home made" install?
[13:06] <wreiner> home made
[13:06] <wreiner> using FAI
[13:06] <CatKiller> wreiner: Because initramfs only contains what is needed to boot Ubuntu
[13:06] <CatKiller> and Ubuntu generates initramfs according to what it *think* it'll need
[13:06] <CatKiller> If this is homemade
[13:07] <BluesKaj> spacecamp:  3.11.0-8-generic #15-Ubuntu
[13:07] <bl4ckdu5t> theadmin: I thought it should be done with "chown"
[13:07] <CatKiller> Ubuntu has no idea you're booting an encrypted partition
[13:07] <CatKiller> and won't include your required stuff
[13:07] <theadmin> bl4ckdu5t: chown changes ownerships. chmod changes permissions.
[13:07] <spacecamp> BluesKaj, thats the kernal thats it comes with out of the box right?
[13:07] <ws2k33> hello i want that my ubuntu machine is able to send out email via an external smtp server how should this be done ?
[13:07] <bl4ckdu5t> theadmin: ok thanks!
[13:07] <CatKiller> you're going to have to generate a new initramfs with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/update-initramfs.8.html
[13:07] <BluesKaj> yup, thius is a clean install , spacecamp
[13:08] <CatKiller> or this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/mkinitramfs.8.html
[13:08] <spacecamp> not latest kernal then BluesKaj correct me if i'm wrong tho
[13:08] <CatKiller> And some more info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103844/how-to-customize-the-initrd-embedded-in-or-coming-with-the-kernel-image
[13:08] <wreiner> CatKiller: hmm ok, but where would i tell ubuntu to include this stuff? I genereated my crypttab, added /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot, added the modules to initramfs and built a new one
[13:08] <spacecamp> idk, my friend just always told me to make sure you are running the latest kernal
[13:09] <wreiner> CatKiller: http://pastebin.com/DYEmBf3p
[13:09] <spacecamp> so i try to keep up with all that lol
[13:09] <CatKiller> wreiner: Maybe that wasn't the procedure, like maybe this didn't copy the right binaries
[13:09] <wreiner> CatKiller: this is what i've done so far
[13:09] <BluesKaj> spacecamp:  I don't pay much attn to newest kernel on a dev OS , that's up to the development ppl , I'm a kubuntu-tester
[13:09] <spacecamp> right
[13:09] <wreiner> CatKiller: most certainly there is something missing but all tutorials around google tell me only to do this
[13:10] <CatKiller> wreiner: Sounds like you'd need to add the binaries to the initramdisk as well
[13:10] <spacecamp> i just want my systems to run the best i can make them, and i was told if you want that then you need to keep up with the latest stable kernal
[13:10] <spacecamp> again, correct me if i'm wrong lol
[13:10] <CatKiller> wreiner: Does your ramdisk have cryptpv?
[13:10] <CatKiller> because it will need that according to the cryptroot config
[13:10] <ws2k33> hello i want that my ubuntu machine is able to send out email via an external smtp server how should this be done ?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> spacecamp: as long as the hardware is all running ok then the kernelis doing its job
[13:11] <BluesKaj> spacecamp:  newest isn't necessarily best , but I'm sure you're aware of that :)
[13:11] <spacecamp> ActionParsnip, agreed.
[13:11] <wreiner> CatKiller: hmm not sure what you mean by that. as far as i understand, that's a name i give the container. could you tell me how to check?
[13:11] <cfhowlett> spacecamp, agt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade   should solve 99% of your upgrade issues plus, perhaps, enabling backports in the repos
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> spacecamp: so you dont need to keep grabbing new kernels
[13:12] <CatKiller> wreiner: Not sure, I have never made custom initramdisks using Debian or Ubuntu
[13:12] <wreiner> CatKiller: also the cryptosetup binaries are missing in the initrd, but i don't know how to tell update-initramfs to include them
[13:12] <CatKiller> 100% homemade ones yes
[13:12] <CatKiller> but that's not the same
[13:12] <spacecamp> right, so if eveything is working like it should.. then i shouldent worry about making sure i have the latest kernal?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> spacecamp, chillax.
[13:12] <CatKiller> wreiner: That's why I was suggesting to make a new initramfs entirely not with udpate
[13:12] <CatKiller> but with create
[13:13] <CatKiller> it's an ext2 image usually
[13:13] <CatKiller> that contains a "skeleton" fs with binaries and such
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> spacecamp: exactly
[13:13] <spacecamp> sweet
[13:13] <CatKiller> usually you make it from a directory that contains the right structure
[13:13] <CatKiller> or you could "edit" your existing one by mounting the image and adding stuff to it
[13:13] <wreiner> CatKiller: sure, but it would break everything on the next kernel update
[13:14] <CatKiller> wreiner: Ye[p
[13:14] <CatKiller> wreiner: Or actually, "maybe"
[13:14] <CatKiller> wreiner: as I said, I have no experience with customizing ubuntu ramdisks
[13:14] <CatKiller> just making full ones
[13:14] <wreiner> CatKiller: ok, thank you anyway
[13:15] <ronin> isn't it a bit weird that my package doesn't include javadoc for example jdk-7u11-linux-x64.tar.gz
[13:15] <ronin> i have oracle's java now
[13:15] <MoleMan> Could someone help me work out why my system doesn't resume from hibernate? I have set the resume= tag in Grub,might it be related to the swap being encrypted? the ouput from blikd for the swap is "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: (blahblah", using 13.04, with partitions automatically setup by Ubuntu during install
[13:15] <Ceninant> What's the best form of Wine to install for a newbie?
[13:16] <user258467> Hi, I think I have lost Xorg or gdm or the other display manager I am in chroot, could you tell me how do I install Xorg?
[13:16] <MoleMan> Probabl Pinot?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Ceninant, form?  use the one in the software center.
[13:17] <Ceninant> Play on Linux?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> user258467: sudo apt-get install xorg
[13:17] <UrielVigilante> Good morning, yesterday i came here to ask help to install bcm4311 on ubuntu 12.04.usb persistent mode. and problem solved, today i came here  again because i cant install bcm4311 on another usb persistent mode ubuntu 13.10, here what i tryed until here :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158668/
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Ceninant, you do know that you can install both for free?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !saucy|UrielVigilante,
[13:17] <Ceninant> Both together?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Ceninant: play on linux is a GUI for Wine. Wine is still doing the work. Play on linux is not a 'form of wine'
[13:18] <cfhowlett> UrielVigilante, 13.10 is beta ...
[13:18] <UrielVigilante> cfhhowlett: please give me a tip
[13:18] <Pici> UrielVigilante: ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:18] <UrielVigilante> should i regret to 13.04 to make it work ?
[13:18] <UrielVigilante> thanks any way
[13:19] <user258467> ActionParsnip, it seems I have already xorg but I can't log in in gui to my computer and as it is encrypted I can't login at all, how is named the new GDM, I think I have to reinstall it
[13:19] <PervMonk> Good day all. Ever since the last update, my one USB drive which normally got mounted on /media/FreeAgent GoFlex Drive is now mounted as /media/FreeAgent GoFlex Dri - without the "ve"
 this is a mission as my sickbeard has episodes indexed with the original name
 how can I change this back via command line?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> PervMonk: unmount it then you can label the partition
[13:21] <ronin> how should I install javadoc, I see it's already in /usr/lib/jvm/jdk.../bin directory. should I copy it to /usr/bin/java or make a link to /usr/bin or hmm
[13:21] <ronin> why isn't it even created as default
[13:21] <DJ_U|Laptop> The nvidia driver download appears complete, going to reboot, since there were some kernel updates and will see if it works.  :)
[13:23] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hey guys
[13:24] <JoBArTe_Skuld> its possible to have a mail notification if is logged succesfully on ssh?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> JoBArTe_Skuld: you can have a watch on /var/log/auth.log and email successes etc
[13:27] <DJ_U|Laptop> Something's still not right, got an internal error, it's in usr/bin/Xorg
[13:28] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [ActionParsnip]: thanks
[13:34] <i_eat_my_nikname> hello
[13:35] <Letalis> so on a 64 bit system how possible is it for opengl to run fine on 32 bit applications but not on 64 bit ones, because thats what it looks like to me right now :)
[13:36] <Letalis> glxgears and kdes desktop compositiong are pretty much a slideshow and cease to work respecitvely. my x3 game on steam? runs flawless.
[13:36] <i_eat_my_nikname> hello friends i cant do any one exe with bundle options (py2exe) , always returned  more modules are missing error :(
[13:37] <ronin> what could be wrong >javadoc Error occurred during initialization of VM Could not reserve enough space for code cache
[13:38] <ronin> I created to symlink to javadoc to /usr/bin/
[13:38] <i_eat_my_nikname> @FloodBot how are you today ?
[13:41] <i_eat_my_nikname> dmesg | grep brainless
[13:42] <spacecamp> When will skype ever be good on Gnu/Linux?
[13:43] <spacecamp> Prolly never, Since bill gates bought it lol
[13:43] <the_thought_forg> spacecamp: Ask Microsoft
[13:43] <spacecamp> one super sucky thing, cuss most people i talk to use skype lol
[13:43] <spacecamp> back in the day i used pidgin and it worked great really, But now everyone has went to skype
[13:43] <apn> spacecamp, never.  Skype is owned and developped by Microsoft.  They do not support competing systems.
[13:44] <cfhowlett> spacecamp, you could always use blackberrymessenger ...
[13:44] <the_thought_forg> I'm having some issues getting some nVidia Legacy drivers installed on my system running Lubuntu. Can anybody give me a hand?
[13:44] <spacecamp> I should be like some or my other friends and Only use irc to talk to people rofl
[13:44] <spacecamp> but those friends of mine have autism
[13:45] <spacecamp> rofl
[13:46] <spacecamp> Skype has gotten a lil better tho for nix. Compared to the way it was when it 1st came out i guess :\
[13:46] <UrielVigilante> Ok i decided already , i will back to ubuntu 13.04, some one can tell me the best waranteed way to do it ?
[13:46] <spacecamp> lol warranty on Gnu/Linux?
[13:46] <loa> Urbanmyt1, time travel machine i guess.
[13:46] <spacecamp> wut
[13:47] <Pici> !offtopic | spacecamp
[13:47] <ronin> paxctl is the solution.
[13:47] <ronin> devil's invetion
[13:47] <spacecamp> lol
[13:49] <UrielVigilante> spacecamp: rephrasing , wich  i decided already , i will back to ubuntu 13.04, some one can tell me the best  way to do it ?
[13:49] <Pici> UrielVigilante: It would require a reinstall.
[13:49] <the_thought_forg> UrielVigilante: A clean install would work best
[13:49] <spacecamp> UrielVigilante, Grab a thumb drive and install it?
[13:50] <UrielVigilante> yes , i will do a clean install with usb persistent windows software ...
[13:50] <spacecamp> apt-get install unetbootin
[13:50] <the_thought_forg> UrielVigilante: The best way to keep it clean for upgrading in the future would be to make a separate partition on your hard drive for your /home/, you can always configure a newer installation to use that partition and mount it at /home rather than overwriting it
[13:50] <UrielVigilante> uts possible to make it in persistent mode with unebootin ?
[13:52] <UrielVigilante> The_thought_forg, iam using it on a persistent mode, the usb way that always remember all cahges in system beetween terminatesś and startś
[13:53] <the_thought_forg> UrielVigilante: Alrighty. That's always fun. I have a Salix USB stick somewhere around here that I used to use in places where I didn't have access to a computer with Linux on it
[13:55] <UrielVigilante> Unebootin max persitent space possible is 512  Mb ?
[13:56] <the_thought_forg> Rollin' again... Can anyone help me with installing Nvidia legacy drivers on Lubuntu, or point me to a channel where they might be able to?
[13:56] <UrielVigilante> with windows usb .." something software its 4 GB ....
[13:56] <the_thought_forg> UrielVigilante: It shouldn't be. Check that you aren't using an old version
[13:56] <UrielVigilante> ok thank you
[13:59] <spacecamp> How come unity has such bad support for more then one display?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> spacecamp: depends on config really
[14:00] <the_thought_forg> spacecamp: Because it's proprietary and most desktop users only have one monitor, so they can get away with it for now
[14:00] <spacecamp> Like, can you get rid of the unity bar on the top with some configing?
[14:00] <spacecamp> >unity propietary
[14:00] <spacecamp> lol
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> the_thought_forg: Unity isnt proprietary at all
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> the_thought_forg: where did you hear that?
[14:01] <spacecamp> Yeah, he was just joking
[14:02] <the_thought_forg> spacecamp: No, I was pretty serious... ActionParsnip: Isn't the SDK about 1500 USD or something?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> the_thought_forg: no idea, not something I use. I just use OpenBox as WM
[14:04] <spacecamp> i like dwm
[14:04] <the_thought_forg> ActionParsnip: I'm not entirely sure, myself. Just from what I've passively heard, it seems like one of those "Mostly for Windows and Mac" type things
[14:04] <axtheb> There are more "unity" named software products imho
[14:04] <axtheb> The ubuntu unity desktop (foss) and unity3d game engine
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> axtheb: unity isnt a DE
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> axtheb: its a shell for gnome
[14:05] <the_thought_forg> Oh
[14:05] <the_thought_forg> That Unity
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> axtheb: a plugin for Compiz
[14:06] <the_thought_forg> Whoops... I usually use LXDE, XFCE and Fluxbox. Totally forgot about that one
[14:06] <axtheb> ActionParsnip: I know.
[14:06] <axtheb> ActionParsnip: there was no "DE" in my post
[14:07] <designbybeck> Is there a way to recover deleted or removed files from the harddrive or CF card? Here is what this guys prob is: "manually deleted from the camera, and had them on my computer, but I let somebody borrow it to burn a disk and now they are gone"
[14:08] <the_thought_forg> designbybeck: I don't know which DE you use so this may not apply, but check your trash first
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: try foremost or scalpel on the unmounted file system
[14:08] <axtheb> designbybeck: Its not that hard to undelete files from FAT filesystem iirc, so you probably can get them from the card.
[14:10] <axtheb> designbybeck: fatback, photorec
[14:10] <MoleMan> designbybeck: I'd personally recommend TestDisk or PhotoRec, which is basically just the part you want from TestDisk http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/
[14:12] <designbybeck> Thank you all. I'll get this info to him. I might even try it on an old harddrive I have !
[14:13] <ihre> are there mirrors available for kernel.org ?
[14:13] <ihre> im downloading @ 32KB/s ...
[14:14] <ImQ009> Hey
[14:15] <ImQ009> I'm running Ubuntu Live (with prersistence file set up) off a pendrive. Now, is there away to set it up so it installs all the applications and libraries on my external HDD? It's NOT the same as my pendrive, just to make it clear
[14:16] <ImQ009> I tried setting the external HDD's mountpoint to /usr/bin
[14:16] <ImQ009> But - as I expected - it didn't work
[14:17] <whoever> hi all , anyone here using razerconfig ?, i doon't see an option to keeep the logo led solid
[14:20] <whoever> is there an optien and i just missed it
[14:22] <OerHeks> whoever, depends on your type if led actions are supported > http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html
[14:24] <sajal> tly
[14:24] <ImQ009> Anyone? :/
[14:25] <apn> ImQ009: sure.  If you want all applications, then leave /boot on your HD, and mount / in your external HDD
[14:26] <apn> ImQ009: if you are talking abut non-essential applications on external HDD, then mount / on your internal, and /usr to your external.
[14:30] <whoever> OerHeks:  it is the DeathAdder and according to supported features it suppors L(LEDs switching)
[14:31] <ImQ009> apn, Thanks
[14:32] <burner> so if I have unity, kde, xfce, lxde, and razor installed and my vertical space is only 768px on my netbook, how do I select the "ubuntu" as my wm in lightdm when it's off the screen?
[14:32] <ImQ009> I made a new admin account
[14:32] <ImQ009> ...in live mode
[14:32] <ImQ009> I switched to it
[14:32] <ImQ009> I ended up in fullscreen'd terminal, without anything, not being able to do anything at all
[14:32] <ImQ009> rebooted, now it won't even boot
[14:32] <ImQ009> ...... way to go
[14:33] <the_thought_forg> burner: You need to right click on the panel and reconfigure it so that it displays on the screen properly
[14:33] <ImQ009> Anyone know what's going on?
[14:33] <burner> the_thought_forg: on the panel at the top when i'm at the lightdm login screen?
[14:33] <the_thought_forg> ImQ009: What did you try to do?
[14:33] <the_thought_forg> burner: I thought you meant on the desktop... I have no idea about that, then
[14:33] <helmut_> hi
[14:34] <ImQ009> the_thought_forg, Make a new account
[14:34] <the_thought_forg> Maybe there's something you can change in the lightdm config files?
[14:34] <the_thought_forg> ImQ009: Something went horribly wrong. Whatever you did, it sounds like X was unable to start
[14:34] <burner> the_thought_forg: nah... i'm fine once logged in, but i can't try unity on my netbook since i can't select it at the login screen.  thanks anyway
[14:35] <ImQ009> the_thought_forg, All I did is to go system settings, user accounts, click the plus thingy, created new account
[14:35] <the_thought_forg> You should try to login and type the command 'startx'
[14:35] <ImQ009> Then I clicked the power button and then the name of the new account
[14:35] <ImQ009> the_thought_forg, It doesn't let me type anything at all
[14:36] <the_thought_forg> ImQ009: Press Ctrl+Alt+F7 or Ctrl+Alt+F8 to see if it will take you back to the desktop
[14:36] <ImQ009> the_thought_forg, It doesn't boot anymore :P
[14:37] <ImQ009> it goes through the flash screen
[14:37] <zykotick9> the_thought_forg: fyi, really if you are in console, it's just ALT+F7 (Ctrl is only required when you are in Xorg)
[14:37] <ImQ009> ok it booted THIS time
[14:37] <ImQ009> Hmm
[14:37] <the_thought_forg> zykotick9: Didn't know that, thanks
[14:38] <the_thought_forg> ImQ009: If you have a recovery option in your GRUB menu, you should select it
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> ive installed 13.04 64bit on a targa laptop, everything works flawless, just somtimes desktop freezes after opening dash, searching applications...grafix card= geforce go and nouveau driver
[14:38] <ImQ009> Well, nvm, nvm everything I said
[14:38] <ImQ009> I booted and I realized it didn't keep any of my settings
[14:39] <ImQ009> so this whole persistence file thing doesn't work at all :/
[14:40] <loki_> hello, what i can check if ubuntu don't save changes of my inderace? for example such changes: applications which i add on unity panel? i add them from desktop, or time after which screensaver activated, or wallpaper settings?
[14:46] <whoever> is there a more efficent way to clean the razer death adder othere then rubbing alchol, since the matt plastic seems to pick up fingure prints just by looking at it
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> whoever: how is that an ubuntu question?
[14:47] <whoever> ActionParsnip: not really but since I am here just decided to ask
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> whoever: try in ##hardware
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> think ive found my issue here for that box: http://askubuntu.com/questions/287354/clicking-the-dash-home-causes-computer-to-freeze-up
[14:48] <pmd> Hi. I've got LUKS-encrypted installation of ubuntu and I've installed elementary on second partition. Now I'm looking for a way to copy entire elementary installation to encrypted partition. Will dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt command work for me?
[14:49] <MoleMan> is there a way to stop ubuntu being drunk and make it realise websites aren'r programs?
[14:49] <MoleMan> ie FaceBook, Amazon showing up in the launcher / task bar
[14:49] <loki_> whoever, just dissasble it, then wash it, and brush it with toothpaste.
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> Moleman: those are normal online accounts you can add
[14:50] <loki_> hello, what i can check if ubuntu don't save changes of my inderace? for example such changes: applications which i add on unity panel? i add them from desktop, or time after which screensaver activated, or wallpaper settings?
[14:51] <MoleMan> lotuspsychje: do you know where the setting to disable them is?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> MoleMan: check your system settings and disable online accounts
[14:53] <MoleMan> lotuspsychje: found them in the settings, can't see an option to disable them though?
[14:53] <whoever> loki_: thx
[14:53] <loki_> whoever, but don't use tooth brush))
[14:54] <loki_> it will be too agrssive
[14:54] <loki_> agressive
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> MoleMan: check privacy settings aswell for amazon searches disable
[14:55] <loki_> cotton fabric, little tooth paste, many water at will be ok.
[14:55] <tempspace> Anybody else seeing this today? initramfs-tools : Depends: initramfs-tools-bin (< 0.99ubuntu13.1.1~) but 0.99ubuntu13.2 is to be installed
[14:55] <Pici> whoever, loki_: Can you please move this conversation to ##hardware, as it has nothing whatsoever to do with Ubuntu?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> loki_: your question is making no sense...does your desktop not remember changes?
[14:56] <loki_> lotuspsychje, only interface changes.
[14:56] <loki_> for example i click on desktop and select wallpaper i want
[14:56] <loki_> all is ok, it is on my desktop
[14:56] <loki_> after relogin, i see default one again
[14:57] <MoleMan> lotuspsychje: still showing up in the taskbar when I open them in firefox
[14:57] <timhansen> morning, all
[14:58] <tyler_d> morning timbermaniac_
[14:58] <OldTexas> Mornin'
[14:58] <tyler_d> timhansen, I meant
[14:59] <havv> Hello
[15:00] <timhansen> I'm running ubuntu 13.04 server, and i'm having an issue with my ruby on rails app not being able to connect to mysql. i can access mysql via mysql -u root -p ; and i've discovered the mysql socket exists at /run/mysqld/mysql.sock via sudo find / -type s ; but alas.. when i try to create my rails database, i get the error, "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/run/mysqld/mysql.sock'"
[15:01] <timhansen> is there something i'm missing? anyone have anything else to try?
[15:02] <havv> I'm running lubuntu on Virtual Box and I'm trying to give it a static ip address. I added "iface eth0 inet static" and added the addresses for address, netmask and gateway. When I restart the VM there is no network connectivity. What am I missing?
[15:03] <MoleMan> timhansen: have you checked the config to ensure it is allowed? and you /might/ get better help in #Ubuntu-Server
[15:03] <MoleMan> only might though :)
[15:05] <timhansen> MoleMan: which config, to ensure what is allowed?
[15:05] <MichaelP> on 12.04 lts is it possible to upgrade to gtk 3.6.4 ?
[15:06] <MoleMan> eeerm, 1 second,
[15:06] <kanupatar> hi , I am having a linux machine installed with ubuntu 12.04, in that machine there is no internet connection.I need to install emacs full package in that machine.So i need to download the emacs deb package from net and then I need to take it there into the ubuntu machine and then only I can install the same.Can anyone tell me the emacs package location without any extra dependency?
[15:06] <kanupatar> ]/j emacs
[15:06] <MoleMan> I presume you have whatever ruby extensions or whatever are needed for MySQL integration? (I know nothing about Ruby / Rails)
[15:07] <timhansen> MoleMan: yes
[15:11] <kanupatar> Any emacs users here?
[15:11] <MoleMan> timhansen: check the socket settings in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[15:11] <mihaela_> hi, I'm geting dhcp (ipv4) timeout with my centrino wireless card (driver iwlwifi)
[15:12] <mihaela_> this problem seems to be known for quite a while
[15:12] <mihaela_> any fixes already?
[15:13] <MoleMan> and logs in /var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql.err and /var/log/mysql/error.log
[15:13] <timhansen> MoleMan: that specifies the socket is at /var/run/mysqld/mysql….d…dot sock. son of a bitch. i tried that before, except with mysql.sock instead of mysqld.sock. son of a bitch
[15:13] <MoleMan> at least those are the logs I have on my system, you may find a more detailed reason as to why the login failed in them
[15:17] <SkiOne_> anyone can tell me I would get a permission denied when trying to create a folder as root? I can create folders above and below just not at this one level
[15:18] <MoleMan> SkiOne_: what are the perms on the folder? can you chmod them and does that help at all
[15:18] <MoleMan> as for why you can't to start with, no idea.
[15:18] <SkiOne__> sorry connectionropped
[15:19] <MoleMan> [16:18:42] 26-09-2013 <MoleMan> SkiOne_: what are the perms on the folder? can you chmod them and does that help at all
[15:19] <MoleMan> [16:18:50] 26-09-2013 <MoleMan> as for why you can't to start with, no idea.
[15:20] <SkiOne> the file permissions are 755 and I can't chmod them either
[15:21] <zykotick9> SkiOne: is this on a FAT or NTFS formatted partition?
[15:21] <SkiOne> ext3
[15:21] <SkiOne> http://pastebin.com/NiV7pvS5 is my file permissions
[15:28] <tempspace> Is there something other than apt-get update I can do to get apt to re-read package dependencies?
[15:28] <tempspace> I am stuck in a spot where apt is checking for dependencies of the previous package, rather than the package I am trying to install
[15:29] <Sander^work> When I try to log into ubuntu 13.04 via grafical interface.. I get trown out again.. but guest login works.
[15:30] <Sander^work> syslog says my homedir is already mounted.
[15:30] <Sander^work> when I log into the console.
[15:31] <zykotick9> Sander^work: log into console and do a "ls -la" in your home dir.  do you see anything owned by root?
[15:31] <Sander^work> zykotick9, yes. Should I chown it to myself?
[15:31] <Sander^work> I guess..
[15:32] <zykotick9> Sander^work: NEVER use sudo with GUI applications!  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for explanation.
[15:33] <Sander^work> zykotick9, ok.
[15:34] <Rakholl> Hello, is anyone able to play League of Legends using PlayOnLinux?
[15:36] <Rakholl> Mine stopped working about two patches ago, and if someone actually has it working, I'll try and reinstall, but as things are...
[15:36] <zykotick9> Rakholl: you might want to try asking in #winehq (but i don't know how they feel about PoL)
[15:36] <boneslash> Rakholl - stop playing LOL I heard about WOW :)
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Rakholl: did you check the Wine AppDb?
[15:39] <Rakholl> ActionParsnip: Not yet
[15:41] <zquad> hey i am looking for and old ubuntu background that looked like a grid
[15:41] <zquad> I think it was the default wallpaper
[15:42] <Rakholl> ActionParsnip: Oh, a new wine version? I'll try it out, see what happens
[15:44] <u3> you know any good file crypt programs good to use
[15:44] <nibbler> gpg, dm-crypt
[15:45] <tfdl> Good morning everyone!
[15:45] <tfdl> We have used your Ubuntu package http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/gtkterm.1.html
[15:46] <tfdl> sorry I should say the Ubuntu package not your :)
[15:46] <tfdl> and successfully sent a hexadecimal commands of strings "FE" and "00" or "FE" and "01" to a serial port to switch a status light device.
[15:46] <Een> malam
[15:46] <Een> mas
[15:46] <tfdl> However, we will need to do this programmatically, we don't want to manually enter hexadecimal values, we would need to automate this process.
[15:47] <tfdl> Could you please tell us how to accomplish this? Do we have a command line version of GtkTerm, instead of the gui?
[15:47] <tfdl> We are very thankful to you and your work, we appreciate any help.
[15:47] <baswazz> what does the -R in: sudo -R chown user:grp * mean?
[15:47] <MoleMan> baswazz: recursive
[15:48] <tfdl> -R is recursively
[15:48] <MoleMan> oh, but it should be after chown, not before?
[15:48] <baswazz> ok thanks guys
[15:48] <MoleMan> baswazz: was your command the right way around?
[15:48] <rickferd> Is there an build your kernel for dumies
[15:48] <baswazz> this is the howto: http://www.latentexistence.me.uk/zfs-and-ubuntu-home-server-howto/
[15:49] <zykotick9> !kernel | rickferd
[15:50] <rickferd> I can not get any hting newer that 10.04 to run on my system
[15:50] <wheatthin> rickferd, what do you mean?
[15:51] <jonascj> Hi all. Anyone using Guayadeque player? I cannot figure out why I cannot see any songs in my library (My Music) after I've added a path in Guayadeque
[15:51] <MoleMan> baswazz: yeah, I think he has made a typo and means 'sudo chown -R steve:steve *'
[15:51] <baswazz> MoleMan: ok thanks i already missed it in the manpage :D
[15:52] <zykotick9> rickferd: using 10.04 isn't really an option at this point... what is failing with newer versons exactly?
[15:52] <rickferd> I can install 10.04  and it runs great If i try and install any of the newer version it will just have a black screen and even bring up a terminal it just sits there nothing. I tried upgrading and the same thing
[15:53] <zykotick9> rickferd: if you have nvidia/ati have you tried nomodeset?  "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.
[15:53] <wheatthin> sounds like your graphics card drivers need to be installed
[15:53] <wheatthin> ^
[15:53] <rickferd> I have an intel series 4 graphics card
[15:54] <wheatthin> resolution too high
[15:54] <wheatthin> or out of sync
[15:54] <zykotick9> rickferd: ok, still same question, have you tried nomodeset?
[15:54] <rickferd> no i have not
[15:55] <Rakholl> ActionParsnip: All league gives is bug splats with all the wine versions presented in the AppDb
[15:55] <kruug> I am currenlty unable to ping any resources.  I did not configure any additional firewalls.  This is Ubuntu Server 12.04.
[15:55] <kruug> Any starting places?
[15:56] <wheatthin> kruug, are you using ip and dns both?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Rakholl: then if the appdb says it wont work, safe bet is that it wont work
[15:56] <kruug> wheatthin: so far, I've only tried dns
[15:56] <wheatthin> try ip and narrow it down
[15:56] <zquad> hey guys, there was a ubuntu wallpaper that looked like a grid. I think it was the default wallpaper of 12, 11 or 13.  Any suggestions?
[15:57] <kruug> wheatthin: aha.  thanks, IP pinging is working
[15:57] <wheatthin> kruug, perhaps it's just your resolv.conf
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> zquad: tried image search online?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> kruug: try:  echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[15:58] <zquad> yea... no luck, I am thinking maybe its not default smh, really wanted it
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> kruug: then try web access
[15:59] <kruug> ActionParsnip: I tried pinging google and it gave back unknown host
[16:03] <kruug> ActionParsnip, wheatthin looks like my coworker misconfigured network interfaces
[16:04] <wheatthin> ahh lol
[16:04] <wheatthin> blame it on the coworker :P
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> kruug: d'oh
[16:12] <gambino> hi there!
[16:20] <xobb> morning. anyone has an system76 14" laptop? what's the average time on the battery?
[16:21] <wheatthin> google search it
[16:21] <philinux> xobb: I'm guessing you're not getting what you think it shoudl do?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> xobb: or email system76 direct
[16:24] <daniel__> hello
[16:24] <daniel__> i need help with something guys please
[16:24] <daniel__> new user
[16:24] <daniel__> need help modifying grub config
[16:24] <pmd> Hi. I've got LUKS-encrypted installation of ubuntu and I've installed elementary on second partition. Now I'm looking for a way to copy entire elementary installation to encrypted partition. Will dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt command work for me?
[16:25] <zykotick9> daniel__: can you give more details?
[16:25] <daniel__> so
[16:25] <daniel__> im trying to gksudo gedit it
[16:26] <jhutchins> pmd: No, you need to do a file-level copy, not a block copy.
[16:26] <daniel__> but apparently asks for password and text editor does not start
[16:26] <xobb> I'm about to buy it. but I've read the whole their website didn't getting the information about that
[16:26] <xobb> yeah, emailing them is the next thing I'm gonna do after asking here)
[16:26] <jhutchins> pmd: I'd probably use rsync.
[16:26] <kalakj> hello everyone, i am having a strange problem in my laptop, it never happens in Windows, i am using UBuntu 12.04 LTS and it is updated and it ejects DVD tray at random interval , firstly i thought that it i accidentally hit  eject button, but now it is confirmed that it  ejects it at random intervals, i tried a lot on the net, but no solution find, any body please help.
[16:26] <u3_> hello
[16:26] <philinux> daniel__: just put your log in password in.
[16:26] <daniel__> i did
[16:26] <daniel__> but nothing happened
[16:26] <philinux> daniel__: and be careful what you change. What u trying to do
[16:27] <pmd> jhutchins: thanks, I'll try this way
[16:27] <zykotick9> daniel__: what is the full command you are trying?  "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"?
[16:27] <u3_> i was just going to tell you all that my computer is sooooo fast now i cant believe it
[16:27] <philinux> daniel__: the password wont show just enter it and press enter
[16:27] <kalakj> any other channel that you would like to  recommend if help is not available here
[16:28] <skulltip> if using my desktop as a gaming (mostly steam) and light dev box including graphics, should i install 32 or 64bit OS?
[16:28] <zykotick9> skulltip: if you're into gaming, i'd suggest 32bit.  YMMV.
[16:28] <daniel__> you don't understand me guys
[16:28] <daniel__> alright
[16:28] <daniel__> terminal
[16:29] <daniel__> gksudo gedit /boot/grub
[16:29] <daniel__> asks for pass
[16:29] <daniel__> enter it
[16:29] <daniel__> accepts pass
[16:29] <FloodBot1> daniel__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <zykotick9> daniel__: /boot/grub is WRONG
[16:29] <Rory> daniel__: The file you want is /etc/default/grub
[16:29] <daniel__> /etc/boot/grub
[16:29] <daniel__> oh damn let me try
[16:30] <philinux> daniel__: it would really help if you told us what the heck you're trying to do
[16:30] <Rory> philinux: He's quit
[16:30] <daniel__> Yeah i tried the patch /etc/default/grub
[16:30] <Rory> !grub | daniel__ please read this information before doing anything
[16:31] <daniel__> It just won't open the text editor
[16:31] <zykotick9> daniel__: does "gksudo gedit" work?
[16:31] <daniel__> yes
[16:31] <daniel__> Asks me for my password, i just enter it, and nothing happens
[16:31] <zykotick9> daniel__: so "no" then...
[16:32] <zykotick9> daniel__: does gedit work?
[16:32] <philinux> daniel__: copy and paste this into the terminal gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[16:32] <Peanut> Hi folks. I have a machine that runs 'Raring', and just did apt-get dist-upgrade (last time was 30 days ago). Now after booting the machine doesn't even load grub (I have disabled the grub hiding in the past), let alone the kernel. I've booted in rescue mode (from the network) and re-installed grub, which didn't help but proves that the SSD that the OS is on is still there and accessible. Any hints on how to get my machine back to life please?
[16:33] <daniel__> It asks for password
[16:33] <daniel__> I give the pass but still nothing
[16:33] <zykotick9> daniel__: does gedit work? by itself?
[16:33] <daniel__> Erm I guess i need to sudo apt get it?
[16:33] <daniel__> I thought it was included with the system packages
[16:33] <daniel__> The program gedit is currently not installed
[16:33] <minas> i was sure :P
[16:34] <philinux> daniel__: which version ubuntu you on and again , what are u trying to do
[16:34] <minas> try nano instead
[16:34] <daniel__> Well im on xubuntu 12.4
[16:34] <daniel__> Trying to add nomodeset to the grub config
[16:34] <daniel__> Yeah im going to try nano now
[16:34] <philinux> daniel__: well thats leafpad not gedit but you can install it
[16:34] <zykotick9> daniel__: xubuntu will have a different GUI text editor... but i don't know what it's called.
[16:34] <daniel__> i think it's nano
[16:35] <zykotick9> daniel__: nano is a terminal program, not GUI
[16:35] <zykotick9> daniel__: try "gksudo leafpad /etc/default/grub"
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: sudo nand /etc/default/grub
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> etc
[16:36] <daniel__> yes im trying to figure out how to save it in nano right now
[16:36] <daniel__> i made the modifications
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: CTRL+O, CTRL+X
[16:36] <minas> control -X
[16:36] <MoleMan> Ctrl + X
[16:36] <MoleMan> Y
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: then run: sudo update-grub
[16:36] <daniel__> ok i think im done
[16:36] <zykotick9> daniel__: don't forget "sudo update-grub" after making changes.
[16:36] <daniel__> Alright updated it
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: you can check with:  grep nomodeset /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:36] <daniel__> Thanks guys
[16:37] <daniel__> Opened it with nano again and configuration has been saved
[16:37] <daniel__> Is it okay to run with nomodeset on the long run?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: sure
[16:37] <daniel__> Because I think it loaded some bad drivers from my graphics card
[16:37] <daniel__> everything goes black and flickering
[16:38] <philinux> daniel__: which graphics card?
[16:39] <daniel__> radeon hd 7450
[16:39] <aeroot> Hey  together. I want to switch back from the old Linux Mint 12 to Ubuntu. In the installer Ubuntu says, he can replace the installation and applications and files of linux mint will be deleted. what does that mean? will the old file system be available after that and files that do not belong to mint won't be deleted?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> aeroot: you should format the mint partition and install a clean Ubuntu install
[16:40] <jhutchins> aeroot: Probably not.  You'll probably loose anything you don't back up.
[16:42] <aeroot> ActionParsnip, jhutchins: I actually planned to do a backup anyhow, but when the files would stay I would do a backup as 'backup' and not as transfer-method to the new system...
[16:43] <jhutchins> aeroot: There are sometimes problems with the hidden configuration files in a user's profile, especially if you revert to an earlier version of a program that uses those files.
[16:44] <schnitzl> hi. i have problems with fancontrol. sudo pwmconfig says i have no sensors installed.../usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no fan-capable sensor modules installed
[16:44] <jhutchins> aeroot: What ActionParsnip said is true, the disk should ideally be re-formatted, so all files will be lost.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> !sensors | schnitzl
[16:44] <OerHeks> schnitzl, do you have lm-sensors installed?
[16:44] <schnitzl> sure. i did the check
[16:45] <schnitzl> confirmed all with yes
[16:45] <philinux> daniel__: maybe a search in ubuntuforums.org may help. I'm not a radeon user so can't help
[16:45] <schnitzl> i think lm-sensors isnt wiriting the modules.
[16:45] <aeroot> jhutchins: okay, that was my first approach. i thought it could be more compfortable the other way, but i will do a clean install. thanks
[16:47] <babinlonston> Using Ubuntu 13.04 and installed KVM for virtual Machine , i have installed RHEL, centos and Winxp as my Guest OS in KVM , Except Win xp In all Operating system Drivers are get installed but in XP its not getting installed , How to get install the guest operating systems Drivers , Help me to get fixed .
[16:47] <zykotick9> babinlonston: are you using kvm directly, or through virt-manager?
[16:48] <babinlonston> zykotick9: Throught Virt-manager
[16:48] <aeroot> btw, can i configure "Files" that it doesn't do a search/filter when beginning to type but just "jump" to a file with that beginning letter?
[16:48] <zykotick9> babinlonston: try asking in #virt on irc.oftc.net
[16:49] <babinlonston> there is not chatroom as #virt
[16:50] <zykotick9> babinlonston: notice the irc.oftc.net - it's NOT on freenode
[16:51] <babinlonston> ok
[16:52] <xtriz> what does headless ubuntu server means ?
[16:52] <zykotick9> xtriz: no attached monitor
[16:52] <xtriz> zykotick9, :)
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: no screen on it, most servers are headless
[16:52]  * LinuxGold is running 2 headless servers
[16:53] <Peanut> Hi folks. I have a machine that runs 'Raring', and just did apt-get dist-upgrade (last time was 30 days ago). Now after booting the machine doesn't even load grub (I have disabled the grub hiding in the past), let alone the kernel. I've booted in rescue mode (from the network) and re-installed grub, which didn't help but proves that the SSD that the OS is on is still there and accessible, I can even mount it. Any hints on how to get my machine back to life plea
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Peanut: hold SHIFT at boot, do you see grub?
[16:54] <bindi> so, 10.04 no longer supported? what's the best way to upgrade to 12.04, use the upgrade method presented by ubuntu or just reinstall..?
[16:54] <schnitzl> is there another tools to scan for sensors like lm-sensors ? i think it just does not redognize my hardware. but i am sure my fans can be regulated.
[16:54] <zykotick9> LinuxGold: <OT> i don't know if it's coincidence or if irssi actually takes colour names of Nicks into account, but the last three times i've seen you most something - your Nick has been yellow (gold)
[16:54] <xtriz> ActionParsnip, nice to know that i was knowing this before
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> bindi: only not supported on the desktop. It still has a year and a bit on server
[16:54] <zykotick9> s/most something/post something/
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> bindi: you can upgrade to Precise in one jump as it is LTS to LTS
[16:55] <LinuxGold> zykotick9: uh?  I'm using LimeChat without escape codes
[16:55] <zykotick9> LinuxGold: the colours are determined by client, so it's with MY irssi ;)
[16:55] <LinuxGold> =)
[16:55] <skinux> How does this work: sudo apt-get install nodejs=0.10.18-1chl1~precise1  ?
[16:56] <babinlonston> What is the ubuntu server IRC ? #server
[16:56] <zykotick9> babinlonston: #ubuntu-server
[16:56] <babinlonston> zykotick9: thanks
[16:57] <Peanut> ActionParsnip: No, I'm on IPMI. But the grub menu isn't hidden, I turn that off on all my machines (removed GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT)
[16:59] <skinux> Nevermind. The installation instructions are invalid.
[16:59] <rimal> can i ask questions about backtrack here
[17:00] <wheatthin> no
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> rimal: #backtrack-linux
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> rimal: or #kali-linux
[17:02] <zykotick9> !backtrack | rimal
[17:03] <rimal> okay
[17:03] <rimal> thanks
[17:05] <Peanut> Ugh.. it seems like the newer kernel detects ttyS0 and ttyS1 in a different order, hence my GRUB would never display!
[17:12] <dubhdara> can someone help me get my gnome configured on ubuntu
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: with details, maybe
[17:12] <dubhdara> I did a minimal install then install the gnome set
[17:13] <dubhdara> but it stilll messes up when i start gdm
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: how do you mean "messes up"
[17:13] <dubhdara> columns and bars and is fuzzy
[17:13] <dubhdara> its a older pc it has the old S3 savage graphic card
[17:15] <loa> where i can find in dconf-editor where ubuntu save what icons i have on my unity panel?
[17:15] <dubhdara> ubuntu is so strange
[17:16] <NLD0uw3NL> hello
[17:16] <trism> loa: com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites
[17:16] <jhutchins> dubhdara: You might want to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what the system thinks it's doing.
[17:18] <loa> trism, you are very helpful thx. maybe you now what can be wrong in my situation i set for example new wallpaper, but after relogin i see that there default again, or for example i set different timeout for screensaver, and he again default
[17:19] <loa> looks like settings not saved
[17:19] <loa> and system settings is working very strange.
[17:20] <loa> there are different settings for wallpaper, every time i open it
[17:20] <loa> looks like system settings mess my configuration
[17:20] <loa> i setuped now all good, checked all things in dconf and will try to restart
[17:21] <xobb_> >> anyone has an system76 14" laptop? what's the average time on the battery? 4hrs, that's what the support said. They are expecting dramatic increase when 13.10 is released. Anyone has an idea why should that be increased so dramatically?
[17:22] <igor__> hi vsem
[17:22] <igor__> est russkie?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> !ru
[17:23] <loa> !po
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: you may need an xorg.conf file to get a better display
[17:23] <loa> s[ecial command for russians?
[17:23] <igor__> Эй выблядки англопиздючные, пишите на русском
[17:23] <wxl> i have what i think is a very simple question relating to sudo -u. i'd like to have HOME set to the target user, so i'm using the -H switch, yet sudo -H -u user echo $HOME yields the HOME of the invoking user. the only thing set in /etc/sudoers is env_reset and secure_path and as i read the man page that shouldn't conflict. what am i doing wrong and/or missing?
[17:24] <dubhdara> where is my xorg.conf suppose to be on a ubuntu system
[17:24] <loa> that russian man said very bad words...
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: /etc/X11 same as every other Linux box
[17:24] <loa> he used top10 bad words in russian.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: one doesnt exist by default but if you make one it will be obeyed
[17:24] <dubhdara> well it shows a xorg.conf.d
[17:24] <zykotick9> dubhdara: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but it's not there by default)
[17:24] <dubhdara> but that says its a dang directory
[17:24] <wxl> dubhdara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config might be useful
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   will be the file
[17:25] <tech11> ./sh configure No such file or directory
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> tech11: is there a Configuration file in the pwd?
[17:25] <ikonia> tech11: what are you trying to do exactly
[17:27] <dubhdara> okay i also need one last thing
[17:27] <dubhdara> how do i download this
[17:27] <tech11> i am setting up gammamoo server
[17:27] <dubhdara> xserver-xorg-driver-savage_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1_i386
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: isnt it in a default install
[17:28] <dubhdara> apt-get says it can't get it
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: dpkg -l | grep savage
[17:28] <dubhdara> not on mine
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> !info xserver-xorg-video-all
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[17:29] <EricKit> Does anyone understand file systems very well?  What are the benefits of EXT4 and why when Ubuntu writes to an NTFS system can Windows not see the file?  I understand MS doesn't give much specifications to NTFS and the changes to it.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> EricKit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> EricKit: couldnt find that?
[17:32] <jhutchins> EricKit: If you have ntfs-3g and can write to the NTFS filesystem, windows can see the file.  Perhaps you have not set the permiissions correctly?
[17:32] <tech11> how do u runing sh configure
[17:33] <Bookwormser> Hello quick question. I am currently on release 10.04.2 and I need to get to 10.04.3. Will an apt-get update take me to 10.04.4 or only 10.04.3?
[17:33] <ikonia> tech11: you run it in a directory where there is a confiugre script
[17:33] <ikonia> tech11: eg: sh ./configure
[17:33] <dtcrshr> is there a way to save the apps iv installed and install the same apps into another ubuntu?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Bookwormser: you will upgrade to the latest packages in the repos so will go to 10.04..4 direct
[17:33] <dtcrshr> Iv added no foreign repos, its a lts install
[17:34] <Bookwormser> Ah ok thank you ActionParsnip. Is there a way to simply update to 10.04.3? Would I need to do it package by package?
[17:34] <zykotick9> dtcrshr: downloaded packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ you can copy that folder's contents to different machines.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Bookwormser: no, the minor releases just means later installs need to upgrade fewer packages
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Bookwormser: its the same release
[17:35] <jhutchins> dtcrshr: Yes.
[17:35] <Bookwormser> OK, great. Thank you for your help, ActionParsnip.
[17:35] <EricKit> jhutchins: I'll have to check which version I'm running on my Ubuntu machine.  On the Windows side it's 3.1.  The default Ubuntu load recognized, read and wrote to the NTFS drive.  But Windows 8 did not see the files, detected "errors" and wanted to repair it.
[17:35] <dtcrshr> zykotick9: well, I just want them to be installed from the web again, do I have to save thisfolder with binaries?
[17:36] <zykotick9> !clone | dtcrshr
[17:36] <dtcrshr> thanks zykotick9
[17:40] <jhutchins> EricKit: Looks like there are some new W8 behaviors that can cause problems with shared disks.
[17:40] <EricKit> jhutchins: W8 is one of the main reasons I loaded up Ubuntu.. I wouldn't doubt it.  Must be the best thing that's happened to Ubuntu
[17:43] <xtriz> EricKit, what is W8 ?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: windows 8
[17:44] <xtriz> ohh
[17:45] <jhutchins> EricKit: Apparently you need to disable the Fast Startup Option.  Windows 8 is doing a "hybrd shutdown" which is more of a suspend in order to conceal how ungodly long it takes to actually boot.  It saves the state of the mounted partition, and changes made by another OS while Windows is down are not recognized.
[17:45] <jhutchins> EricKit: I'd do a little more research on this and not just take my word for it, but that seems to be the issue.
[17:45] <tech11> can't open ./configure
[17:45] <ikonia> tech11: you don't open it - you execute it
[17:46] <ikonia> tech11: you either need to run it with "sh" - or you need to set it to have execute privileges
[17:46] <jhutchins> You should be able to open it though, it should just be a text file.
[17:46] <EricKit> jhutchins:  That's a great idea.  I knew shutdown was actually a hibernate type shutdown.  Actually, now that I think about it... when I "shutdown" and start, Ubuntu won't mount it (it's not allowed).  But when I restart (which is actually a real shutdown and the only way to apply patches), it will mount it and the problem still persists.  Thanks for the idea though.
[17:47] <jhutchins> tech11: Note that the file configure must be in the current directory for that to work, and you must have read permissions on it.
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> tech11: did you read the readme file in the source you have?
[17:47] <jhutchins> tech11: You might want to reconsider doing this as you have the potential to wreck your system if you don't understand the process.
[17:48] <jhutchins> tech11: It is much better to stick with packages from Ubuntu until you've learned more about how Linux and Ubuntu work.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> tech11: is there no PPA for what you are installing? Is it not in the repos?
[17:57] <PrideAndSorrow> i wanna change the mount point of /dev/sdb3
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> PrideAndSorrow  try      sudo umount /dev/sdb3; mkdir [some easy name]; sudo mount /dev/sdb3 [that name]
[18:01] <vl4kn0> Hi, I'm developing a product using ffmpeg, (not avconv) but since ubuntu does not have original ffmpeg in its repositories I found ppa repository that contains original ffmpeg. Problem is that there is ffmpeg from the PPA and ffmpeg from ubuntu repositories. How do I make sure the ffmpeg being installed with apt-get install is the one from ppa not from ubuntu repositories? Also, how do I prevent reinstalling that package when updating?
[18:01] <ImQ009> So
[18:01] <ImQ009> I got a new pendrive, 16GB
[18:01] <ImQ009> And it's 3rd time since I try to install Ubuntu
[18:02] <ImQ009> It keeps freezing at random stages
[18:02] <ImQ009> It froze at "Please wait" stage
[18:02] <ImQ009> And now it froze at "Installing system" stage
[18:02] <VsMaX> ImQ009, old laptop?
[18:02] <ImQ009> VsMaX, Sandybridge
[18:02] <dubhdara> okay now i got gnome working
[18:02] <ImQ009> A year old laptop
[18:03] <ImQ009> Now something happend that the main window vanished
[18:03] <ImQ009> Just like the first time
[18:03] <ImQ009> Is that supposed to happen?
[18:03] <chaotic_good> who here is runignthe show on ubuntu?? I mean varnish to LAMMP with 2 ms the second being memached, software raid 10 or iscsi under psotgrewsql?
[18:03] <dubhdara> wat is the strip to the side of gnome in the graphic cd called
[18:04] <VsMaX> ImQ009, probably you have some unspupported hardware, check if your hardware is supported, dont remember the website but you should be able to find it on google
[18:04] <dubhdara> dang it my minds frozen
[18:04] <VsMaX> ImQ009, also try mint
[18:04] <VsMaX> ImQ009, linux mint I mean
[18:05] <dubhdara> wat is the strip to the side called
[18:05] <chaotic_good> postgresql aolserver tcl linux oh my!!! with varnish out front, ha proxy in middle and softraid 10 down low!!!
[18:05] <chaotic_good> www.aolserver.com
[18:06] <ImQ009> VsMaX, Live mode worked though
[18:06] <arshavin> my dvd drive reads dvds randomly,but it reads cd's with so many errors,effectively making it impossible to copy or read any data  [ 9143.142301] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 4096
[18:06] <arshavin> [ 9143.142310] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1024[ 9143.198286] sr 3:0:0:0: [sr0]
[18:07] <arshavin> what should I do?
[18:07] <dubhdara> shoot it
[18:07] <ImQ009> I wanted to use Ubuntu though
[18:07] <ImQ009> Not mint
[18:07] <lemonsandpears> I need an email password recovery specialist for hire, pm me if interested
[18:07] <ImQ009> That's because I'm a complente Linux n00b
[18:08] <ImQ009> And installing stuff on Ubuntu is easy :P
[18:08] <dubhdara> ubuntu is suppose to be for the noobs
[18:08] <ImQ009> dubhdara, That's why I want to use it
[18:08] <johnjohnjohn> hey guys I have several directories that I am parsing and some of the files have annoying prefix like '1234_' or '4544_' added to the front of the file name, is there an easy way to rename losing the number_ at the front?
[18:08] <ImQ009> But that fucking shit won't even install :P Sorry for the harsh words but I've been trying to fix my lappy for 2 months
[18:08] <dubhdara> whats the prob again imq009
[18:08] <ImQ009> It just won't simply install
[18:08] <dubhdara> from the graphical cd
[18:09] <ImQ009> It stops at random points
[18:09] <dubhdara> yeah it does that
[18:09] <ImQ009> And the main window just vanishes
[18:09] <Ludovik> This is not necessary a Ubuntu specific question but I was just wondering what the best partition setup would be to have " Operating System / Swap / Program Settings / Storage " in seperate partitions so that if I have to re-install I just have to re-install the "Operating System"?
[18:09] <dubhdara> well you can always install it through the alt/min cd
[18:10] <sdn3rd> does anyone else have an issue where after they issue syndaemon -d -k -i 0.2s their psmouse module has to be reloaded?
[18:10] <dubhdara> then i can walk you through the rest of it but i don't have that neat strip to the left
[18:10] <dubhdara> I can't even remember wat the crap its called
[18:10] <sdn3rd> my trackpad stops tracking the mouse when I issue that until I rmmod psmouse and modprobe it again
[18:10] <xangua> Ludovik: lots of guides to make a separate home partition when installing if that is what you ask
[18:11] <arshavin> sdn3rd: I have very similar problem on my vaio lapto
[18:11] <Ludovik> Well, I find that home partition generally is for storage and what not. But let me take a look/
[18:11] <dubhdara> you may have to work on your xorg
[18:11] <dubhdara> or make one
[18:12] <dubhdara> oh you using the pad on the laptop
[18:12] <dubhdara> synaptics i think wat you need
[18:12] <arshavin> sdn3rd: I fixed it by modifying my xorg.conf file created by nvidia-xconfig
[18:14] <arshavin> sdn3rd: I found archwiki very helpfull though I am using elemnetary os
[18:16] <tech11> can or can't i ./options.h
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> !details | tech11
[18:18] <ImQ009> 4th attempt
[18:18] <ImQ009> Same thing, just stopped at "installing system"
[18:19] <ImQ009> doing nothing at all
[18:20] <Neozonz> is x11-common required for server type functionality?
[18:21] <skinux> Is /usr/local/src intended to be used as /usr/local/src/<user>/some-src?
[18:23] <ImQ009> I don
[18:23] <ImQ009> I don't even know what do do anymore :/
[18:23] <f00bar80> is there a tool/software for ubuntu like MTPutty for multiple SSH sessions managing?
[18:24] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: what does MTPutty do?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> f00bar80  try gigolo
[18:25] <f00bar80> gordonjcp, http://ttyplus.com/multi-tabbed-putty/
[18:26] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: oh neat
[18:26] <leitao> hi. Which glibc will be shipped with 13.10?
[18:26] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: well putty is open-source and available for Linux, maybe you could try compiling MTPutty?
[18:26] <tech11> i am using ubuntu 13.04
[18:29] <f00bar80> gordonjcp, there's no a MTputty like precompiled package?
[18:29] <OerHeks> leitao, ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:29] <leitao> OerHeks: thankas
[18:29] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: oh, it appears that mtputty is closed-source, which is legally questionable if it derives from putty
[18:30] <bekks> gordonjcp: It isnt derived, it actually just uses putty.
[18:30] <team_edward> how do i get this to work for lowercase files too?  $ for file in {A..Z}*; do echo $file; done
[18:30] <bekks> for file in {a..Z}*; do echo $file; done
[18:30] <gordonjcp> bekks: oh, putty is MIT licence, I thought it was GPL
[18:30] <kruug> I'm looking to modify the motd of server 12.04 to include the stardate.  Anyone know of a good way to do so?
[18:30] <team_edward> thanks bekks
[18:30] <gordonjcp> bekks: so mtputty is legal, just morally objectionable
[18:30] <bekks> gordonjcp: Yeah :)
[18:31] <gordonjcp> kruug: have you got a script to generate the stardate?
[18:31] <team_edward> bad substitution bekks
[18:31] <f00bar80> gordonjcp, so there no way to have something like it in ubuntu?
[18:31] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: maybe, I don't know
[18:31] <team_edward> ah nvm i see it
[18:31] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: I just open up a terminal and ssh to the machine I want to connect to
[18:31] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: actually these days I mostly use mosh instead
[18:31] <kruug> gordonjcp: no, I don't.  I wasn't sure if that would have been reinventing the wheel or not
[18:31] <bekks> team_edward: Then use two substitutions, one in lowercase, one in uppercase.
[18:32] <kruug> If that's the case, I'll probably just skip it as it's more of a joke between a coworker and I
[18:32] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[18:32] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD). When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5]
[18:32] <Griff|> along with / and boot.
[18:32] <FloodBot1> Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <gordonjcp> kruug: take a look in /etc/update-motd.d
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> bbl
[18:33] <kruug> gordonjcp: will that remove what's already in there?
[18:33] <gordonjcp> kruug: that contains a bunch of scripts updated periodically
[18:34] <hassan> vbxv<
[18:34] <UrielVigilante> how to install bcm 4311 on ubuntu 13.04 . I alread try this before :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159854/
[18:35] <Griff|> Anyone able to assist with my issue?
[18:35] <ImQ009> And now it' stuck at "please wait" after scanning local repositories
[18:35] <ImQ009> wtf is going on
[18:36] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[18:36] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[18:36] <bekks> ImQ009: Then "please wait".
[18:36] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[18:36] <bekks> Griff|: Too long, didnt read.
[18:36] <ImQ009> bekks, The whole point being I don't know how long I'm supposed to wait. :P
[18:37] <bekks> ImQ009: Until it finishes :)
[18:37] <ImQ009> Because I don't know whether the window is gonna stay like that for-nvm, this time it did something
[18:37] <ImQ009> The window used to randomly vanish after that :P
[18:37] <bekks> ImQ009: So waiting means: "wait longer than 10s" :)
[18:37] <ImQ009> bekks, That was actually 10 minutes :P
[18:38] <ImQ009> Anyway, let's hope it finishes the installation :D
[18:39] <fellayaboy> from text mode how can i run (startx) in hardware rendering mode instead of software rendering mode
[18:39] <bekks> fellayaboy: Dont use startx anymore, thats heavily deprecated.
[18:39] <fellayaboy> bekks what do i use then
[18:40] <azizz> install gentoo
[18:40] <bekks> fellayaboy: Use lightdm to start your X.
[18:40] <fellayaboy> thanks
[18:40] <killer> hey
[18:40] <fellayaboy> im using mate though does that matter? im not using unity
[18:40] <killer> where are the fonts location in ubuntu
[18:41] <bekks> fellayaboy: Do you use Ubuntu or Mint?
[18:41] <fellayaboy> mint i believe
[18:41] <bekks> fellayaboy: Then please consult the mint support.
[18:41] <bekks> !mint | fellayaboy
[18:41] <fellayaboy> ok sorry thanks
[18:41] <UrielVigilante> Iam installing bcm 4311 on ubuntu 13.04 , after i write : sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree  , on terminal it says is not able to find the package. ! I also tryed  trought out the software source, and then add the additional drivers, it dont work too. why ?
[18:41] <sidds> ubuntu software center and steam closes within seconds after opening. Help..
[18:43] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[18:44] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[18:44] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[18:44] <UrielVigilante> !bcm
[18:44] <team_edward> I need to get this to work for lowercase because the folders I want to send the files to are lower case initial characters as well: $ for file in {A..Z}; do mv $file* $file ; done
[18:44] <zykotick9> sidds: try starting one of them from a terminal, do you get any error output?
[18:45] <zykotick9> team_edward: did you try {a..z} perhaps?
[18:45] <sidds> hii everyone. i'm facing a problem. ubuntu software center and steam closes within seconds after opening. Help..
[18:45] <team_edward> i have mixed upper and lowercase on the initial filenames
[18:45] <team_edward> so it needs to include both for those, but ignore case for the folders
[18:45] <sdn3rd> arshavin elementary os?
[18:46] <UrielVigilante> I cant find how to make bcm 4311 work on ubuntu 13.04
[18:46] <Griff|> {a..z,A..Z} ?
[18:46] <Griff|> Shot in the dark.
[18:46] <UrielVigilante> !bcm 13.04
[18:46] <ImQ009> How long is creating user stage supposed to take?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | UrielVigilante
[18:46] <ImQ009> It's already taking 10 minutes
[18:47] <ImQ009> I didn't pick any sort of encryption
[18:47] <team_edward> sorry no luck griff
[18:47] <Griff|> :( Thanks anyways dude
[18:48] <sidds> zykotick9: yes i am getting an error. where can i paste the info. it's a little big.
[18:48] <zykotick9> sidds: paste.ubuntu.com
[18:49] <sidds> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159913/
[18:50] <sidds> zykotick9: this error is for software-center
[18:50] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[18:50] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[18:50] <zykotick9> sidds: sorry, i don't have a clue.  good luck!
[18:50] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[18:50] <FloodBot1> Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <Beryllium> Hi there. It sounds like the apple magic trackpad works on Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04 (with some minor annoyances in BT pairing, but that's fine) - just wondering, though. Has anyone here used a magic trackpad or other multitouch device in Ubuntu? Are there easy ways to set up gestures, like tab-left/tab-right in a web browser by using finger swipes?
[18:53] <azizz> are you guys going to switch to SteamOS or what?
[18:54] <killer> what is the location of system fonts
[18:54] <sidds> ubuntu software center and steam closes within seconds after opening. help needed..
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> azizz, not everyone is a gamer and this is support
[18:57] <azizz> why the fuck would you not play video games on your PC?
[18:57] <azizz> are you a coding nerd or something?
[18:57] <IdleOne> !language
[18:57] <azizz> !cryaboutit
[18:58] <sdn3rd> arshavin anyhow im using saucy gnomeubuntu
[18:58] <azizz> besides, we're all grown men here. don't act like you've never said the word "fuck" in your life
[18:58] <OerHeks> sdn3rd, saucy is not supported here (yet) join #ubuntu+1
[18:59] <IdleOne> azizz: I'm going to ask you not to use that language in here again
[18:59] <sdn3rd> OerHeks: darn and its like what, a day or two away form release
[18:59] <sdn3rd> haha
[18:59] <azizz> what language? what word should I not use?
[18:59] <azizz> I am confused
[18:59] <IdleOne> azizz: swear one more time and there will be no confusion
[18:59] <azizz> I just want to know the exact word that I should not use
[19:00] <ImQ009> Nice troll
[19:00] <tozen> sidds: cd ~/.config; rm -rf software-center && sudo apt-get install -- reinstall software-center ??
[19:01] <tozen> sidds: cd ~/.config; rm -rf software-center && sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center ??
[19:01] <tozen> sorry
[19:01] <sidds> tozen: did that already. did not solve the issue.
[19:01] <azizz> am I allowed to say "ballsack"?
[19:01] <azizz> thats not a swear word
[19:02] <tozen> sidds: did you tried to launch software-center through console?
[19:02] <dieguezz> hello, can somebody help me? i need to find fstab file
[19:03] <zykotick9> dieguezz: /etc/fstab you mean?
[19:03] <dieguezz> oh yes!!  tyvm zykotick9
[19:04] <sidds> tozen: yes. the error is in the pastbin. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159913/
[19:04] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[19:04] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[19:04] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[19:04] <FloodBot1> Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <sidds> tozen: can u help on this??
[19:06] <mrrcp> whats the best method to get netflix to work on 12.04
[19:06] <tozen> sidds: have you tried to launch with sudo?
[19:06] <mrrcp> ?
[19:06] <DJones> !netflix | mrrcp
[19:07] <sidds> tozen: yes. this error was with sudo.
[19:07] <tozen> sidds: let me think for a while
[19:07] <sidds> tozen: when i open it from dash..it just closes after 1-2 seconds.
[19:07] <zykotick9> sidds: you should NEVER use sudo with GUI applications!  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details.  but i don't think that's related to your error (but it might cause others)
[19:10] <sidds> zykotick9: yes u r right. i use gksudo for gui applications.
[19:12] <zykotick9> sidds: did this ever work?  if so, do you know what changed?  and, is your system up-to-date?
[19:13] <sam113101> does any of you want to be my girlfriend?
[19:14] <sidds> zykotick9: yes my system is up-to-date. what i'm suspecting is the a few days back "sudo apt-get autoremove" uninstalled 3 libs which i suspect might be causing this prob. not sure though.
[19:15] <zykotick9> sidds: well, you could check /var/log/apt/history.log to see what was removed?
[19:15] <tozen> sidds r u here?
[19:16] <sidds> zykotick9: checked that. installed some of the uninstalled ones with no effect.
[19:16] <sidds> tozen: yes i'm still here.
[19:16] <tozen> sidds: what sais sudo ap-get update?
[19:16] <zykotick9> sidds: i gots nothin'.  again, best of luck.
[19:17] <tozen> sidds: what sais sudo apt-get update?
[19:17] <ubuntusucks> hi
[19:17] <sidds> zykotick9: thanks..
[19:17] <sidds> tozen: did that. no change from that.
[19:17] <tozen> ubuntusucks: hi! what the matter, pal?
[19:18] <tozen> sidds: so clear yes?
[19:18] <ImQ009> Hmm
[19:18] <ImQ009> Odd
[19:18] <mib_kitkat> hi, i'm looking for a decent irc client for a gtk-based environment
[19:18] <ImQ009> Chromium won't install on 13:04
[19:18] <ubuntusucks> tozen: i have problems installing ubuntu on a gtp ssd
[19:18] <mib_kitkat> maybe alternatives to xchat?
[19:18] <ImQ009> 13.04* It complains about missing libs
[19:18] <mrrcp> mib_kitkat: irssi
[19:18] <ubuntusucks> gpt sorry
[19:18] <mrrcp> its the best
[19:19] <sidds> tozen: what could this mean. /usr/share/app-install/desktop/workrave:workrave.desktop' could not be read correctly.
[19:19] <mib_kitkat> mrrcp, well ok thanks
[19:19] <ubuntusucks> is it possible to use ubuntu with a gpt ssd on a non uefi bios mobo ???
[19:19] <oaulakh> how to add desklets to ubuntu
[19:19] <oaulakh> ?
[19:20] <OldTexas> ubuntusucks, I got a SSD on mine, not sure 'bout the UEFI.  I only use AMD.
[19:21] <tozen> sidds: how you get it?
[19:21] <ubuntusucks> OldTexas: does your bios look like a normal bios or is it colourful, with mouse support ???
[19:21] <bekks> ubuntusucks: Thats pretty pointless to use GPT if your mobo doesnt support UEFI.
[19:22] <ImQ009> it just gives me "package dependencies cannot be resolved" when I try to install chromium
[19:22] <sidds> tozen: this is while reinstalling software-center
[19:22] <OldTexas> Colorful with mou8se support.  Dangdest thang I ever saw.
[19:22] <Mouser25> ubuntusucks, My ssd is gpt and I am using grub without UEFI'
[19:22] <zykotick9> bekks: ? GPT supports large disks, MSDOS partition tables don't.
[19:22] <bekks> ubuntusucks: The colors of a BIOS do net tell you anythiong about UEFI-support.  I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[19:22] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[19:22] <bekks> zykotick9: I strongly doubt he has a > 2TB SSD.
[19:22] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[19:22] <tozen> sidds: yes please
[19:23] <ubuntusucks> ok, gpt with non uefi isnt suggested  here - so i ahev to format and re install :((
[19:23] <OldTexas> I got a M5A99X Evo R2.0 Asus board.
[19:23] <zykotick9> bekks: i wasn't aware it was an SSD, i'm not seeing the other side of this conversation.
[19:23] <ImQ009> Ok, I changed the download source to United States
[19:23] <ImQ009> Now it says "package chromium-browser isn't available"
[19:24] <sidds> tozen: here it is.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160025/
[19:24] <bekks> ImQ009: USe chrome, not chromium, if you want PepperFlash support.
[19:25] <Calinou> it's chromium then
[19:25] <Calinou> bekks: you can backport pepperflash
[19:25] <Calinou> chrome is bad
[19:25] <ubuntusucks> don't use chrome , use platinum
[19:25] <OldTexas> Intel is in cahoots with Microsoft.  They probably sabatoged their Intels for Linux.
[19:25] <bekks> Calinou: Thats FUD, honestly. And how do you backport PeppperFlash then - any links?
[19:25] <Calinou> no, it isn't
[19:26] <Calinou> bekks: search engines are your friend there
[19:26] <Calinou> but I'm sure you can backport pepperflash to chromium...
[19:26] <ubuntusucks> Intel has developped the new 3.12 kernel, i guess they are pro linux+
[19:26] <Calinou> they did not ubuntusucks
[19:26] <bekks> Calinou: So you dont even have a link then. Its FUD, you just prove it.
[19:26] <Calinou> they aren't the only kernel contributor
[19:26] <OldTexas> Ah, cool.
[19:26] <Calinou> https://startpage.com/do/search?q=backporting+pepperflash+to+chromium
[19:26] <Calinou> have a good read 8)
[19:27] <bekks> ubuntusucks: Intel hasnt developed a single kernel until know. They just employ several kernel devs, as other companies do, too.
[19:27] <OldTexas> They'll prolly try to pass it off as OS/3
[19:27] <bekks> -k
[19:27] <loa> hello, i am trying to add unity://desktop-icon to com.canonical.Unity.Launcher using dconf-editor, all added correctrly but after relog it dissapears from unity launcher.
[19:27] <loa> what ca i check?
[19:27] <DJones> ubuntusucks: Do you have an actual Ubuntu upport question?
[19:27] <ubuntusucks> many questions DJones
[19:28] <DJones> ubuntusucks: Well we wait wait with bated breath, remembering !guidleines and !coc
[19:29] <tozen> sidds: seems it's rarings bug... :(
[19:29] <ubuntusucks> just joking, ubuntu is so brilliant that everything is running perfectly ;)+
[19:29] <ImQ009> bekks, I downloaded the package from Google.com. It says "Depedency is not satisfable: libxss1" :P
[19:29] <tozen> was reading couple topicks on askubuntu.com
[19:29] <bekks> ImQ009: Then ask google what they did there :)
[19:30] <ImQ009> bekks, Then why recommend using it in the first place? :/
[19:31] <bekks> ImQ009: Because google even has a PPA.
[19:31] <ubuntusucks> troll whq just called i have to go
[19:31] <surfdue> Vermoot, hola.
[19:31] <f00bar80> how to save ssh credentials for multiple servers from terminal to get access automaticall without the need everytime to fill in the server's credentials ?
[19:31] <surfdue> ;)
[19:32] <Vermoot> Hi there ! I have an OSX drive on which I'd like to copy a file from my ubuntu setup. So I guess I'm looking for a way to have writing permissions on an HFS+ volume.
[19:33] <Vermoot> I tried this (http://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os) with no luck, as a result i get what I think to be the man mount page.
[19:33] <ImQ009> bekks, Wtf. It won't let me ender super user. it keeps saying auth failiture
[19:33] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[19:33] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[19:33] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[19:33] <Vermoot> surfdue, ;)
[19:33] <bekks> ImQ009: I am sorry. I didnt gget what you were saying.
[19:34] <surfdue> Vermoot, hopefully someone can help you here.
[19:35] <ImQ009> bekks, What I'm trying to say is even Ubuntu is too confusing for me :/ I fail to install one single piece of software
[19:35] <Calinou> ImQ009: you didn't see what Griff| said
[19:35] <Calinou> that's 300% more confusing
[19:35] <ImQ009> Just installing the operating system took me literally whole, WHOLE day
[19:35] <bekks> ImQ009: Because you do it like you did on Windows. Download something, doubleclick it, hope the best. Thats not how to install software in Ubuntu.
[19:36] <ImQ009> bekks, That's why I never used it :P I'm not a patient person
[19:36]  * Calinou can vouch for it
[19:36] <ImQ009> Fiddling around with just installing something has always been annoying for me
[19:37] <bekks> ImQ009: [#ubuntu]
[19:37] <bekks> ImQ009: Sorry.
[19:37] <bekks> ImQ009: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[19:37]  * ImQ009 googles "How to install Chrome on ubuntu"
[19:37] <Vermoot> ImQ009, installing software on ubuntu is way easier than it is on Windows. You just have to learn how for a bit and then it'll all be good ;)
[19:37] <Calinou> "Thats not how to install software in Ubuntu."
[19:37] <Calinou> meanwhile: advocates PPAs
[19:37] <ImQ009> Vermoot, I don't think it is :P
[19:37] <ImQ009> Not for me at least
[19:38] <Calinou> now you know why I say chrome is bad
[19:38] <ImQ009> ESPECIALLY if I have to download and configure libs for every thing I want to install
[19:38] <Vermoot> ImQ009, in a lot of cases installing software is just typing one line in a terminal, or similar to installing an app on a smartphone.
[19:38] <ImQ009> Right now I'm trying to figure out how to enter super user
[19:38] <OerHeks> the package on the chrome page is just a ppa AFAIK, you might want chromium-browser, without the pdf reader flash and serial number
[19:39] <f00bar80> ppl any comment
[19:39] <ImQ009> But at the moment all it says auth failiture
[19:39] <ImQ009> And I have no damn idea why
[19:39] <ImQ009> I'm using the same password I used when I prompted me during some installations under Soft Center
[19:41] <Calinou> are you really sure? check keyboard layout and caps lock and num lock
[19:41] <Calinou> ImQ009: don't use sudo su
[19:43] <ImQ009> Calinou, How am I supposed to install it without sudo/su
[19:44] <Calinou> sudo <your command here>
[19:44] <Calinou> you just don't use sudo su
[19:44] <Pici> Calinou means "sudo su" as one command
[19:46] <f00bar80> even how to manually connect to multiple servers using ssh as th way it's done in MTPUTTY?
[19:47] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: open a tab, run ssh
[19:48] <ImQ009> Calinou, I didn't use sudo su
[19:48] <ImQ009> Why would I?
[19:48] <Calinou> we never know
[19:48] <ImQ009> I tried this http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/heres-how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[19:48] <ImQ009> Doesn't work :P
[19:48] <ImQ009> How the hell do you install Chrome on Ubuntu?
[19:48] <f00bar80> gordonjcp, i want credentials/ports to be save for every server, with no need to fill them every timne
[19:49] <apes>  /leave
[19:49] <bindi> ImQ009: download 32 bit or 64 bit .deb from http://google.com/chrome - doubleclick on the file downloaded, shouldn't be hard
[19:49] <mrrcp> f00bar80: ssh keys?
[19:50] <ImQ009> bindi, That's what I did
[19:50] <mrrcp> !sshkey
[19:50] <mrrcp> hmm
[19:50] <ImQ009> It complains about missing libs
[19:51] <zippo^> has firefox-launchpad-plugin no .xpi ?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> ImQ009  try chromium-browser from teh repos https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[19:52] <fudus> download the .deb, double click, hit install?
[19:52] <OerHeks> or perform " sudo apt-get install -f  " to correct missing libs
[19:52] <irreverant> based on that link; chrome is better hands down
[19:52] <fudus> it is the same as a msi in windows
[19:53] <fudus> but with less "next"
[19:53] <ImQ009> I tried sudo apt-get install libxss1:i386
[19:54] <ImQ009> It says "the package is not available, but is referred to by another package. this may mean that the packager is missing ..........."  What kind of update?
[19:55] <fudus> or click the software update and let it do it in a gui-way
[19:55] <fudus> updater*
[19:55] <f00bar80> mrrcp, how ? any guide?
[19:56] <ImQ009> fudus, Ok, I got to the updater
[19:56] <ImQ009> It asked me about updated version of soft center
[19:56] <ImQ009> And it says "Package does not exist"
[19:56] <fudus> check for updates, let it finish, then let it update
[19:57] <awaad> Is there any application that helps me to manage my access into different servers with different IPs and different credentials?
[19:58] <irreverant> is peppermint os based on ubuntu?
[19:58] <awaad> irreverant: I am using ubuntu.
[19:59] <irreverant> yes; i'm thinking of installing a linux distro on my dell mini not sure if it's going to stay as ubuntu
[19:59] <Pici> awaad: Like a password safe?
[20:00] <awaad> Pici: Like "Putty" and saves access credentials.
[20:00] <Pici> awaad: Theres Putty.
[20:00] <Pici> !info putty
[20:01] <ImQ009> I'm already scared how much time setting up Wine is gonna take :(
[20:01] <irreverant> putty is awesome!
[20:01] <ImQ009> I'm not sure whether I'll be able to make it in time
[20:01] <irreverant> does anyone recommend peppermint os?
[20:01] <Pici> irreverant: We only support Ubuntu here, so not really, no.
[20:03] <JohnMichaelFFS> Hey, I'm having some issues with a mdadm array on a fresh install of 12.04.3 server
[20:03] <JohnMichaelFFS> One of my RAID1 arrays was reported as degraded on the second boot, so I tried removing and re-adding the degraded device to the array, but now when i boot the system it gets stuck in a loop
[20:04] <JohnMichaelFFS> it prints out the log messages about the array still being degraded and rebuilding, but the boot freezes and then the same message output again every 30 or so seconds
[20:04] <JohnMichaelFFS> any ideas on what is going on?
[20:07] <irreverant> does ubuntu support conky?
[20:08] <Calinou> irreverant: yes
[20:10] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[20:10] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[20:10] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[20:10] <FloodBot1> Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:10] <bekks> Griff|: Too long; didnt read.
[20:11] <alex1989> hello, could somebody help me, please? :(
[20:11] <zykotick9> alex1989: ask a question and see ;)
[20:12] <alex1989> okay well, i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu on a new laptop and all i get is a black screen prompting me to login
[20:12] <alex1989> so i do, and its just..still black screen and text
[20:12] <alex1989> the installation went fine, had the full gui so i assumed nothing went wrong
[20:12] <bekks> alex1989: Which text?
[20:12] <alex1989> just asking me to login
[20:12] <bekks> alex1989: And after login in, what happens?
[20:13] <alex1989> just the command line, nothing else
[20:13] <alex1989> very strange
[20:13] <bekks> alex1989: So your X doesnt start up. Take a look at the logs to see what happens.
[20:13] <alex1989> how do i do that, bekks?
[20:13] <zykotick9> alex1989: did you use the regular desktop ubuntu install?  or server or mini?
[20:13] <alex1989> i am fairly certain i used the regular desktop installation, else surely the install would not have used the gui?
[20:14] <Griff|> Sigh, I take it nobody knows / has had experience with my issue then. Is there a better place I can ask my question?
[20:14] <zykotick9> alex1989: "lspci | grep -i vga"
[20:14] <alex1989> sorry for stealing your thunder, griff.
[20:14] <bekks> Griff|: I just refused to read, because your text was too long :)
[20:15] <alex1989> keeps saying command not found, is that an I at the start?
[20:15] <alex1989> or an L?
[20:15] <alex1989> ahh it was an l. forgive me
[20:16] <user154> pw bots in here?
[20:16] <bekks> user154: No.
[20:16] <greenut> hey how i can execute adb comand on terminal
[20:16] <alex1989> not much comes up, just "VGA compatible controller: advanced micro devices [AMD]
[20:16] <user154> k
[20:16] <greenut>  ubuntu@ubuntu:~/HTC$ adb push flash_image /data/local/
[20:16] <greenut>  cannot stat 'flash_image': No such file or directory
[20:16] <greenut>  it says on terminal. whats wrong
[20:16] <alex1989> model is Radeon HD 8210
[20:16] <bekks> greenut: The file "flash_image" does not exist.
[20:16] <greenut> anyone help me... im runing live cd
[20:17] <greenut>  ubuntu@ubuntu:~/HTC$ adb push flash_image /data/local/
[20:17] <greenut>  cannot stat 'flash_image': No such file or directory
[20:17] <greenut>  it says on terminal. whats wrong
[20:17] <bekks> greenut: The file "flash_image" does not exist.
[20:18] <greenut> yeah im running  ubuntu live cd
[20:18] <greenut> how to solve it?
[20:18] <bekks> greenut: By replacing "flash_image" with the correct filename.
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> greenut  and what is it supposed to do?
[20:18] <alex1989> so i entered the command and it hasnt really given me any logs regarding errors, it just tells me the model of the GPU
[20:18] <greenut> i need access my phone to root
[20:19] <alex1989> what would be the next step?
[20:19] <bekks> alex1989: Thats what the command should do. TEl you which graphics card you have.
[20:19] <alex1989> ah, well its an Radeon HD 8210
[20:19] <bekks> greenut: Then replace "flash_image" with the correct filename.
[20:19] <alex1989> im aware AMD support on linux is a little flaky, but im not exactly gaming on a gpu that low-end
[20:20] <greenut> http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=4pY738C5
[20:20] <greenut> im struggling on that part: 4. Enter the following commands (in bold):
[20:20] <greenut> it doesnt let me access
[20:20] <bekks> greenut: Then replace "flash_image" with the correct filename.
[20:21] <greenut> sorry. which flash_image ure talking abt?
[20:21] <bekks> greenut: The one you are typing in that command.
[20:21] <greenut> my directory where files is in the home/HTC
[20:21] <bekks> greenut: If you dont know what you are doing there, you should not root your phone.
[20:22] <greenut> let me investigate. hd on.
[20:22] <alex1989> bekks, any suggestions on what to do next? :)
[20:22] <alex1989> appreciate your help
[20:22] <bekks> alex1989: Sorry, no. I am refusing to deliberately using ATI/AMD grpahics cards since my first own computer.
[20:23] <Calinou> read: nvidia fanboy
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> intel here, never any issues
[20:23] <bekks> Calinou: realist, not fanboy.
[20:23] <alex1989> i guess i'll go try the forums then, thanks for your help anyway
[20:23] <Calinou> yes, fanboy
[20:23] <Calinou> but I gtg :P
[20:23] <Calinou> bekks: you clearly haven't used AMD stuff recently
[20:24] <bekks> Calinou: I wont do it, though.
[20:24] <p1l0t> In fstab should be /Expansion Drive/ or /Expansion\ Drive/
[20:24] <bazhang> !behelpful | Calinou
[20:24] <mn3na3a> question: should i upgrade my ram to 6 GB instead of 4GB ?
[20:24] <bekks> p1l0t: The latter.
[20:24] <Calinou> depends on what you do
[20:24] <bekks> mn3na3a: If you need 6GB of RAM, then yes.
[20:24] <p1l0t> bekks: thanks
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> mn3na3a  if you feel more comfortable with 6GB, then yes
[20:25] <mn3na3a> for my usage my rams takes up to like 60 - 70% but i wonder if i upgraded my ram would my system be faster?
[20:25] <Calinou> no
[20:25] <bekks> mn3na3a: Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
[20:25] <Calinou> RAM doesn't mean performance
[20:26] <bekks> mn3na3a: Please read http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[20:26] <mn3na3a> then i should stick with the 4GB?
[20:26] <mn3na3a> thx bekks :)
[20:28] <f00bar80> anybody can point me on how to automate servers' ssh remote access in ubuntu without using keys?
[20:29] <bekks> !ssh | f00bar80
[20:29] <krambiorix> hi, i want to set my apache locale to dutch ... How can i do that without modifying the ubuntu locale?
[20:30] <cn28h> strange issue I'm having -- I upgraded from 12.04 -> 12.10 and no issues.  I then upgraded to 13.04 and had some display issues. Unity wasn't coming up, but I fixed that by enabling unity and window decorations and opengl etc in the compiz settings manager
[20:30] <cn28h> after doing that I have unity again and window decorations, but I can't move windows by their title bars
[20:30] <cn28h> I upgraded to 13.10 just to see if it would help, but same problem
[20:30] <cn28h> any ideas what might cause that ?
[20:32] <Kinglet> hello all. my brightness get low and high after seconds when i'm watching via VLC
[20:32] <zykotick9> cn28h: if you are on 13.10 now, try #ubuntu+1 as it's not supported here (yet)
[20:32] <cn28h> aight
[20:32] <Kinglet> when it's idle get low and again get hight and ...
[20:32] <Kinglet> high*
[20:33] <Kinglet> anyone knows a solution?
[20:37] <loa> hello, i am trying to add unity://desktop-icon to com.canonical.Unity.Launcher using dconf-editor, all added correctrly but after relog it dissapears from unity launcher.
[20:38] <prp-e> when Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1 will be released?!
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> prp-e  not, beta's only for kubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> prp-e  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[20:44] <jared_> hi
[20:44] <Guest66166> anyone here?
[20:44] <prp-e> MonkeyDust, According to that link, It should be released yesterday !
[20:45] <Guest66166> anyone here?? i need help
[20:45] <Guest66166> ANYone HERE
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> prp-e  1) it's still 26the here   2) not sure if it's for ubuntu or for the 'opt in flavors'
[20:46] <prp-e> MonkeyDust, If you live in GB , time should be about 9:30 PM.
[20:46] <prp-e> I have to wait for it :)
[20:47] <glycan> Hello. I booted in text mode, now I can't start x.
[20:47] <linuxuz3r> try startx
[20:47] <glycan> Yeah, I know. It doesn't work.
[20:48] <linuxuz3r> what error do you get
[20:48] <glycan> xinit: connection to X server lost
[20:48] <glycan> then it seems to be normal X termination
[20:49] <Guest66166> u need to connect to wifi and do sudo apt-get xinit
[20:49] <glycan> "waiting for X server to shut down  ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log\nServer terminated successfully (0). Closing log file."
[20:49] <linuxuz3r> glycan try ps aux | grep xserver
[20:49] <glycan> nothing
[20:50] <glycan> Guest66166: xinit is installed and at the latest version
[20:51] <linuxuz3r> what happens if you try to boot normally
[20:51] <glycan> I can boot normally
[20:51] <glycan> but I'd rather not
[20:51] <linuxuz3r> ?
[20:51] <linuxuz3r> are you root when you try startx?
[20:52] <zykotick9> glycan: how are you trying to start xorg exactly?
[20:56] <greenut> bekks: hey found my problem... i had to extract everything. now i have another problem. look at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX
[20:56] <greenut> it says permission is denied at end
[20:56] <greenut> how to get around it. im running ubuntu live cd.
[20:58] <glycan> linuxuz3r: yes, I am
[20:58] <glycan> zykotick9: startx
[20:58] <greenut> bekks: hi, i solved my problem. can you please check it.. can u help me? check at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX
[20:58] <glycan> I want to use text-only by default
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> !text
[20:59] <greenut> how to get around with permission denied running ubuntu live cd?
[20:59] <greenut> using adb shell command
[20:59] <glycan> So how do I start X properly?
[21:00] <linuxuz3r> when you boot in safe mode i dont think you can startx
[21:00] <gordonjcp> !x | glycan
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> greenut  if you don't get an answer here, try asking in #ubuntu-touch
[21:00] <linuxuz3r> let me boot my laptop
[21:00] <zykotick9> glycan: perhaps "sudo service lightdm start" (but there is some, other way ubuntu is using these days...)
[21:00] <greenut> hey anyone can help me how to get around with command adb shell - permission denied? please check at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX
[21:00] <glycan> zykotick9: thanks, that works!
[21:01] <greenut> ok thank you, MonkeyDust.
[21:04] <linuxuz3r> glycan how exactly did you boot in text mode
[21:07] <greenut> hey anyone can help me how to get around with command adb shell - permission denied? please check at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX
[21:08] <gregor30051> hi, i try to connect my wiimote to ubuntu 13 but i have the problem that i can't load the module uinput "sudo modprobe uinput", lsmod do not display it after i run the command and i get no error message. can anybody help?
[21:09] <linuxuz3r> greenut, you are not in ubuntu anymore when you execute line 14
[21:12] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[21:12] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[21:13] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[21:13] <soman> Why xubuntu 12.04 doesn't recognize canon photocamera? It recognized it yesterday but dosn't do that today. Windows always recognizes it well. lsusb _ dmesg outputs => http://paste.kde.org/pf1c2d548/23000313/
[21:17] <Griff|> this channel is useless :(
[21:17] <gordonjcp> !patience | Griff|
[21:18] <SunTsu> Griff|: You're going wrong where you use the hardware RAID
[21:18] <irssi-mike> Griff|: What's your question
[21:18] <gordonjcp> Griff|: and also, you're doing it wrong where you use encrypted partitions
[21:18] <lord2800> hi, I'm having an issue with audio on ubuntu 13.04 server--it works via speaker-test, but not via XBMC
[21:19] <Griff|> Can I not encrypt the lvm on the raid?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> Griff|: have you done it before?
[21:19] <SunTsu> Griff|: Hardware RAID will get you in trouble, use Linux' RAID facilities and better encrypt the whole disk
[21:19] <gregor30051> can anybody help when the kernel module uinput can't be loaded? (http://www.circuitdb.com/?p=598)
[21:19] <Griff|> No, never, I figured why would it not be possible? RAID is virtulized into a logical drive anyway so whats the difference?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> Griff|: well it sounds massively overcomplicated
[21:20] <lord2800> I've configured /etc/asound.conf to use device hw:0,3 as the pcm default, and when I do speaker-test it either doesn't pick that up or doesn't use it; if I do speaker-test -D hw:0,3 it works
[21:20] <SunTsu> Griff|: The difference is: If your controller breaks your data probably is gone too
[21:20] <Griff|> But with RAID[5] I suffer a massive performance hit with soft raid
[21:20] <Griff|> Thats fine
[21:20] <irssi-mike> lord2800: is xmbc in the audio group
[21:20] <gordonjcp> Griff|: if your machine can't deal with soft RAID it will be even worse with encryption
[21:20] <Griff|> I have a 4tb I'm planning to automate backups to
[21:20] <lord2800> yes
[21:20] <lord2800> (that threw me at first too)
[21:21] <Griff|> believe me, my machine can deal with soft raid, but thats not the issue.
[21:21] <lord2800> speaker-test works without any options when run as root, but not as the xbmc user
[21:21] <gordonjcp> Griff|: how experienced are you with setting up Linux on complex arrangements of drives?
[21:22] <oz0ne> gordonjcp: can't be that exp. as of then he would have read up on the container and lvm on theyr pages. and maybe taken the point of using the software raid.
[21:23] <gordonjcp> Griff|: keep it simple
[21:23] <Griff|> Indeed, I'm not. I have a vague idea of where I want to be though
[21:23] <seynb> Griff: sounds like your bootloader if it's just blinking cursor
[21:23] <gordonjcp> seynb: yees
[21:23] <lord2800> hmm, it seems it's making a liar out of me now, without an X server running (but with pulseaudio -vv running), it doesn't work at all
[21:23] <seynb> Griff: where did you install grub ?
[21:23] <Griff|> Thats what I thought, but boot is there.
[21:23] <gordonjcp> could be just as simple as installing grub to the wrong place ;-)
[21:23] <Griff|> It was handled by ubuntu install. I assume it went to the bootable raid partition i selected for the install.
[21:24] <Griff|> Hmm
[21:24] <delinquentme> I'm in a dir w a ton of directory ... I want to get the total HD space taken up by all files starting with " ex1202"
[21:24] <gregor30051> can anybody help when the kernel module uinput can't be loaded? (http://www.circuitdb.com/?p=598)
[21:24] <seynb> Griff : see ubuntu is not good for advanced setups i have luks/lvm/fakeraid but i had to set it up manually
[21:24] <Griff|> Yes I have seen a few articles speaking of such
[21:24] <delinquentme> something like du -sh ./ex1202  ... except the sum total ... not the individual values for each
[21:25] <Griff|> What sort of read/write do you get and out of what disks?
[21:25] <Griff|> and config
[21:25] <irssi-mike> lord2800: what happens if you login as xmbx then do alsamixer, is that possible?
[21:25] <irssi-mike> xmbc*
[21:26] <Griff|> Hmm, for refrence, where should grub be installed?
[21:26] <Griff|> ./boot/grub if i remember?
[21:27] <seynb> Griff : yeah but then grub-install has to put the core image on the mbr/partition
[21:27] <Ben64> the files for it yeah... but it gets installed in the mbr
[21:27] <lord2800> irssi-mike: I see the standard alsamixer screen, with the correct card selected by default, and no muted outputs
[21:27] <Griff|> Hm
[21:27] <Griff|> This could possibly be the issue.
[21:28] <seynb> Griff: your best bet is to read this and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS
[21:28] <irssi-mike> lord2800: gnome-alsamixer too?
[21:28] <lord2800> not running gnome
[21:28] <irssi-mike> well even still
[21:28] <gordonjcp> Griff|: simplify it for now, and concentrate on adding the RAID arrays later
[21:28] <Griff|> will this not be incompatible with ubuntu to some extent?
[21:28] <irssi-mike> might hace something muted
[21:28] <gordonjcp> Griff|: leave the encryption stuff off too