[00:00] <migmolrod> hi
[00:01] <Bashing-om> migmolrod: Hello. A support request ?
[00:01] <migmolrod> nah. just saying hello
[00:59] <kunwon> does ubuntu run on macs?
[01:00] <YankDownUnder> kunwon, Yes.
[01:00] <YankDownUnder> kunwon, Nice read...http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac/how-install-linux-on-mac-3637265/
[01:08] <chel> If I'
[01:08] <chel> if I'm trying to dual boot with an existing windows partition, where do I install the boot loader?
[01:09] <unholymachine> to the MBR
[01:10] <atralheaven> Hi, I have ubuntu installed with encrypted home, can I split the home partition in two with gparted? or because of encryption it will break?
[01:10] <atralheaven> I mean using the resize option in gparted
[01:12] <YankDownUnder> atralheaven, If you're going to attempt it - BACK UP...
[01:13] <atralheaven> YankDownUnder: I have a backup but if its going to break because of encryption, I wont do it
[01:14] <YankDownUnder> atralheaven, I've seen "minor things" break encryption...ergo, I advise caution...have you "researched" into resizing encrypted volumes/directories?
[01:15] <chel> unholymachine, would that be where the windows 10 loader is installed? (it's an ntfs partition)
[01:16] <atralheaven> YankDownUnder: no, I think it depends on the encryption type, idk the ubuntu default encryption is block level or not
[01:23] <Easyrider> atralheaven: I've had zero success cloning encrypted volumes much less expanding/shrining them.  I would not try to shrink or split an encrypted file system.  To increase it, I'd create a new mount point and then link it to $HOME
[01:24] <atralheaven> Easyrider: thank you
[01:30] <skweek> Hey, I have a file with a list of sensitive information (sensitive to me, at least, and perhaps unfounded paranoia) that I wouldn't want to share to the chat... but a question regarding installing packages that were saved to a file... can I ask someone to private message with me about a question I have?
[02:33] <azizLIGHT> I'm on 14.04 and I'm stuck in workspace overview mode. It won't go into workspace
[02:34] <azizLIGHT> I tried pressing start/meta key, alt tabbing
[02:35] <azizLIGHT> Alt tab switches windows in the workspace I was on, all in this weird workspace selection screen where I can see all the workspaces and their  windows in an overview
[02:36] <azizLIGHT> Here is what it looks like http://i.imgur.com/scWAxlY.jpg
[02:37] <azizLIGHT> I also tried switching workspace with ctrl alt left right etc and all it does is highlight the workspace in this overview mode
[03:31] <jaythelinuxguy> I'm having trouble viewing the *actual* DNS servers assigned to my laptop, which is running Ubuntu 16.04. Every command I run is telling me that localhost is the resolver. I am troubleshooting my internal DNS server, so I need to make sure that DNS requests are going to the right server. Using dig shows that the local resolver is answering but I know that it forwards requests to the local DNS resolver. nmcli dev show isn't working either
[04:28] <Easyrider> @jaythelinuxguy /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/resolv.conf are the files that control dns lookups
[04:29] <jaythelinuxguy> Thanks Easyrider. I ended up figuring it out, sorry I forgot to post back. /etc/resolv.conf isn't used anymore in Ubuntu desktop. But the answer was: nmcli dev show <interface> |grep DNS
[04:29] <jaythelinuxguy> I forgot to add the interface name when I ran it the first time
[04:30] <Easyrider> Hard to believe that.   /etc/resolv.conf has been around since my Grandfather was in short pants
[05:11] <ultraman> Hi, why when i'm trying to compile a program i got this error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit. Thanks :)
[05:56] <Anonaly> hi, how do I search for all video files using a GUI application ?
[05:57] <Anonaly> nautilus works, but I can only search one extension at a time   (.avi,  .mp4  ect)
[05:57] <Anonaly> what would be great is a way to get nautilus to list all video files,
[05:58] <Anonaly> or have a program that recursively searches for videos and stores the results in a database,
[06:07] <Jordan_U> Anonaly: I expect that Gnome's "Tracker" can do that, though I don't have experience with it myself.
[06:10] <Mrokii> Hello. Can I use the regular (K)Ubuntu-Live-CD to install the OS on a usb-stick, just as I would install it on an HD? So that I can boot from a USB-Stick?
[06:11] <knightwise> Mrokii: you can
[06:12] <knightwise> You can make it a persistant live cd. That way the live cd stores the OS but also any info you put on it
[06:12] <knightwise> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[06:12] <knightwise> There you go
[06:14] <Mrokii> knightwise: Thanks.
[06:16] <J3553>  #btrfs is very quiet atm. Is there anyone here conversant that could help with repairing btrfs fs?
[06:16] <J3553> Its on Ubuntu 14 but currently I am live DVD to it with manjaro due it its more recent 4.10 btrfs tools.
[06:28] <yasser> Hi there. I am utrying out openVPN as arch client and ubuntu server. Do you think this is sufficient? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html
[06:32] <BinaryEvolved> yasser: I'd say so, it looks like it has almost everything.
[07:52] <mutsy> Hi there. I have a macbook pro with ubuntu which worked well and I was going to bless it but accidently did reset the NVRAM and now I can't boot from my bootable USB since the startup manager is taking forever to load... it just hangs and I can't do anything anymore ...
[07:53] <mutsy> can someone please help ... I can't do anything anymore on my macbook now ... no usb is recognized, can't get into any OS...
[08:13] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[08:14] <yellabs-r2> i made a shortcut to a program on my desktop, and gave it an icon , used to work fine, but now the icon does not show and i cant give it an new icon , does any one know what would / could be causing this ?
[08:19] <Johnson1977> When I am running a bash script, and after a certain point, I keep getting 'command not found' errors
[08:19] <Johnson1977> for simple things like 'sudo' and 'cat'
[08:20] <Johnson1977> Is this a valid command? PATH="$(find /home/pi/firmware -name $1)"
[08:20] <linerror> set -x ?
[08:20] <Johnson1977> whats set -x?
[08:22] <linerror> Bash will write the trace output generated when ‘set -x’ is enabled
[08:23] <Johnson1977> ok and then? I see many +
[08:24] <linerror> do you see the commands as your script is running?
[08:24] <Johnson1977> yes
[08:25] <Johnson1977> I still get the same errors
[08:25] <Johnson1977> when I remove that find command, everything works
[08:25] <Johnson1977> but if i add it, i get 'command not found' on things like sudo
[08:25] <linerror> ok so you know where it's breaking down
[08:26] <Johnson1977> Ok, any advice on how to use find and save it to a variable?
[08:26] <Johnson1977> my current line looks like this :  PATH="$(find /home/pi/firmware -name $1)"
[08:26] <Johnson1977> I pass a parameter to the script when starting, and then use this parameter to find the path
[08:27] <linerror> PATH=$(find . -name "/home/pi/firmware" | wc -l) ?
[08:28] <Johnson1977> what wc -?
[08:29] <linerror> ignore that  PATH=$(find . -name "/home/pi/firmware")
[08:29] <Johnson1977> no i dont think this is correct
[08:29] <Johnson1977> the name to search is the parameter
[08:29] <Johnson1977> $1
[08:29] <Johnson1977> and the search base folder is  "/home/pi/firmware"
[08:30] <linerror> you're passing a variable to the command?
[08:30] <Johnson1977> yes
[08:30] <Johnson1977> PATH="$(find /home/pi/firmware -name $1)"
[08:31] <Johnson1977> $1
[08:32] <frib> what do I have to do to install this dependency? wine1.8:i386 depends on wine1.8-i386 (= 1:1.8.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10.1~ppa1).
[08:40] <Johnson1977> of course
[08:40] <Johnson1977> setting PATH
[08:41] <Johnson1977> variabe PATH
[08:41] <Johnson1977> is a system var
[09:33] <Zta> I'm installing a system from qemu. I later dd the installation image to a USB stick and boot it in a different machine. The problem is, that the network interface found upon installation in qemu (eth0) is not named similarly on the real hardware (esp2s0).
[09:33] <ivaat> has anyone tried pinebook? looked from here, looks to good to be true https://www.honestlyreview.com/2017/06/07/pinebook-laptop/
[09:33] <Zta> What's the easy, future-proof and bullet-proof solution?
[09:33] <Zta> Can I somehow bring up ALL network interfaces without specifying their name?
[09:34] <ivaat> restart network from cli?
[09:34] <Zta> This image on the USB stick is supposed to run on a headless server.
[09:35] <EriC^^> Zta: add the command you need to the image maybe?
[09:36] <Zta> Yeah.  I was thinking about exiting to a terminal during installation and do cat <<EOF>/etc/network/interface\nauto enp2s0\niface enp2s0 inet dhcp\nEOF.  That will add an extra line that will make the image work on hardware, while still working on qemu.
[09:37] <Zta> But what I really want is "auto  ANY\niface ANY inet dhcp"
[09:43] <EriC^^> Zta: can you write a script that gets the name of the interface and uses it?
[10:01] <Zta> Yes, I probably could.  I don't know what hack is the uglies =)
[10:02] <Zta> My plan is to install Docker on this box, so I'll end up having all sorts of weird virtual bridging interfaces.  On second though I should probably not automate this.
[10:07] <cristian_c> EriC^^: hi
[10:08] <EriC^^> hi
[10:10] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I've made many tests, including xrandr -s and xrandr with --crtc0
[10:10] <cristian_c> --crtc 0
[10:10] <EriC^^> aha what was the result?
[10:11] <cristian_c> -s modeline_name causes an immediate loss of video signal
[10:11] <EriC^^> what about --crtc  stuff?
[10:11] <cristian_c> the only way of restore is rebooting
[10:12] <cristian_c> --crtc argument doesn't show differences, alwaysxrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed
[10:12] <cristian_c> EriC^^: but I've found some information, looking at /var/log/syslog
[10:12] <EriC^^> cristian_c: i think you have to put the crtc stuff at the beginning of the command for it to make a difference or something
[10:13] <cristian_c> EriC^^: it doesn't make differences, there is a reason
[10:13] <EriC^^> cristian_c: with --crtc it's the same error like without it?
[10:13] <cristian_c> yeah, same error message
[10:13] <EriC^^> aha
[10:13] <cristian_c> EriC^^: but if I look at syslog, I read some lines
[10:14] <cristian_c> drm:ironlake_crtc_mode_set *ERROR* Couldn't find PLL settings for mode
[10:15] <EriC^^> what lines?
[10:15] <cristian_c> EriC^^: the above line, repeated in syslog
[10:15] <cristian_c> I believe if the xrandr output command is repeated
[10:16] <cristian_c> EriC^^: it looks like a drm / intel driver issue, about missing PLL settings for a particular modeline
[10:17] <cristian_c> I've made a search, I don't know exactly but it looks dependent by intel_display.c for i915, maybe
[10:18] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I guess, it could be fixed with a workaround adding pll settings to the driver for a not-standard modeline/ display resolution
[10:18] <cristian_c> but it's another story
[10:18] <cristian_c> *patching the driver*
[10:18] <cristian_c> EriC^^: what do you think about it?
[10:19] <cristian_c> ah, sorry the error message I've pasted before, has a kernel: prefix in syslog, so it's a kernel message
[10:23] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I don't kn0w if you've read
[10:25] <cristian_c> EriC^^: if you want I repeat what I've said
[10:39] <frib> I can use Japanese input in wine when I run `WINEPREFIX=~/.winejp LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 wine program.exe` but when I run `sudo ip netns exec alt sudo -u john WINEPREFIX=~/.winejp LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 wine program.exe` I lose Jap input capability. What could be causing this? thanks
[10:39] <frib> I assume there is something wrong with my sudo command?
[10:54] <vlt> Hello. Our xrdp servers on Ubuntu 16.04 sometimes stop listening to port 3389 and no more logins are possible while all the old sessions are still running. Any idea what causes this? How can I reload the xrdp server without having to close the existing sessions?
[11:14] <joze_> why windows clients nslookup returns timeout but ping to google.com or ping <IP_ADDRESS> or any other local ip or domain does not fail also everything gets resolved by browser meaning local domains / ip or external?!?
[11:14] <joze_> I've reset dns cache and problem remains.. server running linux ubuntu do i need to provide any extra service for windows machines?
[11:16] <ANub> hello
[11:17] <ANub> Can someone suggest how can we save Firefox buffered videos ?
[11:18] <ANub> Earlier we could pgrep FF process and then copy contents from "/proc/FF process ID/ fd". But that procedure is not valid anymore in 16.04
[11:25] <TheLawyer> I went through every suggested solution to run Mustek 1248 with sane/xenial but I couldn't do it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo#Permission%20issues
[11:26] <TheLawyer> can anyone help? I don't want turn off ubuntu on windows everytime I need to scan a document!
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> TheLawyer  ubuntu on windows has its own channel
[11:39] <mircx1> someone can help to me
[11:39] <mircx1> i try inside to config iptables
[11:39] <mircx1> nano /etc/iptables.conf?
[11:39] <mircx1> this true or is have else commands
[11:44] <vlt> mircx1: Can you try to rephrase your question?
[11:45] <niko1990> Hello everyone =)
[11:45] <mircx1> ok
[11:45] <mircx1> i try inside to config
[11:45] <mircx1> to iptables
[11:45] <mircx1> nano /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[11:45] <mircx1> and i not see nothing
[11:45] <mircx1> even i try write sudo
[11:46] <vlt> mircx1: Does the file you try to edit exist?
[11:46] <mircx1> yes
[11:46] <vlt> mircx1: If it doesn't nano creates an empty one for you that you can save later (with sufficient permissions).
[11:47] <mircx1> ok but i need to do there
[11:47] <mircx1> you know commands please?
[11:47] <niko1990> I'm looking for an alternative software like Win32DiskImager for Ubuntu. I  found Etcher and it looks very nice, the only thing that I am missing is the function to create an ISO from a Memory-Card. Could someone recommend me a good software for this?
[11:48] <vlt> mircx1: What is it you want to accomplish?
[11:48] <mircx1> i want inside to there
[11:49] <mircx1> i see this a not commands
[11:49] <vlt> mircx1: This is the part I don't understand, sorry.
[11:49] <mircx1> for iptables
[11:49] <mircx1> nano /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config
[11:50] <vlt> mircx1: As a non-native English speaker unfortunately I have no idea what "i want inside to there, i see this a not commands" is supposed to mean.
[11:53] <mircx1> edit the config inside there with commands from terminal gedit nano /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[11:54] <vlt> mircx1: Ok. gedit and nano are both editors. If you type `nano your_file`, what do you expect to happen and what happens instead?
[11:57] <tomreyn> niko1990: use 'dd' to create raw disk images from a block device ('storage') and to write such images to such a device.
[11:58] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[11:58] <Ermin> Hi
[11:58] <Jean-Philippe> Wasuu   bruuhhh
[11:59] <Ermin> I have a prblm in Ubuntu
[11:59] <Ermin> Any one pls help me
[12:00] <Ermin> Couldn't right bytes broken pipes
[12:01] <niko1990> tomreyn: thank you for your help. Is there not maybe a gui software for that. Not that i don't like CLI, but I need to set this up for someone who is not so good with that...
[12:01] <Ermin> This msg shows when I turn on Ubuntu
[12:01] <Ermin> Pls reply me
[12:03] <tomreyn> niko1990: gnome-disk-utility is a graphical general purpose disk partitioning utility which also allows for creating and restoring disk images
[12:04] <niko1990> tomreyn: I didn't even know that gnome-disk-utility can do that... That sounds very good =) Thank you very much, I'm going to take a look at that =)
[12:04] <tomreyn> Ermin: can you take and upload a photo of said message?
[12:04] <Ermin> Ok
[12:05] <tomreyn> niko1990: https://www.maketecheasier.com/backup-hard-drive-gnome-disk-utility/
[12:05] <niko1990> tomreyn: Thank you very much =)
[12:05] <tomreyn> Ermin: does your computer still start up fine or is this the last thing it prints on screen and then it is stuck there?
[12:06] <tomreyn> niko1990: welcome ;)
[12:06] <niko1990> tomreyn: I'm testing it right now, and it works like a charm =) Exactly what I was looking for =)
[12:06] <tomreyn> very well
[12:07] <niko1990> have a nice day =) bye
[12:10] <Ermin> How can I send a picture in irc
[12:11] <tomreyn> you can upload it to imgur.com and post the link here
[12:11] <Ichimusai> Ermin: You don't. You send a link to the picutre.
[12:11] <tomreyn> !paste | Ermin
[12:13] <tomreyn> !paste | Ermin
 Ermin: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[12:29] <Ermin> !pastebinit http://imgur.com/oLAKKkv
[12:34] <tomreyn> Ermin: please kindly talk on the channel only. you can direct your messages to people here, too, by starting a line with the nickname (like i did here).
[12:35] <Ermin> Ok .actually I new to this i don't know much about it ..sry.
[12:36] <tomreyn> i just looked at your screen shot. so this message shows when you boot and the boot process gets stuck there?
[12:36] <Lorne2017> Hey Guys - I've messed up my monitor screen resolution/zoom...and cant see enough of the screen to fix it...is there an easy way to fix?
[12:36] <Ermin> torrent:http://imgur.com/oLAKKkv
[12:36] <Ermin> Yup
[12:37] <donalsd> Hey guys, I need some help in shifting my Ubuntu to a new SSD I got. This is my question right here:
[12:37] <Ermin> Any solution ?
[12:37] <donalsd> https://askubuntu.com/questions/926429/how-to-clone-ubuntu-16-04-partition-from-triple-booted-hdd-to-ssd#926430
[12:37] <tomreyn> Ermin: which ubuntu version is this? are you now using this system to chat also? if so, how were you able to boot it nevertheless? if not, do you use a different system to chat?
[12:37] <donalsd> Can anyone help?
[12:38] <TheLawyer> MonkeyDust: I don't know whether your answer indicates high level of evil or stupidity, in both cases it doesn't answer my ubuntu related question.
[12:38] <Ermin> I'm using 12.04 version
[12:38] <Ermin> I'm chatting through mobile
[12:38] <donalsd> Anyone willing to help me out with the SSD question?
[12:39] <ioria> Ermin, that's not supported anymore ,  but iirc   (more details might help) it's a Xorg/lightdm/video driver issue
[12:39] <Ermin> So wat do u want me to do
[12:40] <Ermin> Any commands to type in the terminal
[12:40] <ioria> Ermin, you can try from recovery mode ; what did you do before the problem happened ? what card do you have ?
[12:41] <tomreyn> donalsd: do you have both the old HDD and the new SSD connected to the same computer?
[12:42] <Ermin> I actually instal kali linux and made some updating ..that much I know..afterward this happend
[12:42] <ioria> Ermin, game over
[12:42] <donalsd> tomreyn: Yes. I replaced the Optical Drive with an SSD with a caddy in my laptop today. (And is this the correct way to mention in IRC?)
[12:43] <Ermin> What u mean game over..
[12:43] <ioria> Ermin, you don't use kali on ubuntu
[12:44] <Ermin> So there is no way to get it back?
[12:45] <Lorne2017> Im in 17.04 - I've messed up my monitor screen resolution/zoom...and cant see enough of the screen to fix it...is there an easy way to fix? Terminal cmd?
[12:46] <ioria> !precise | Ermin
[12:46] <donalsd> tomreyn: Should I be creating another partition?
[12:46] <ioria> Ermin, eol + kali = reinstall
[12:47] <tomreyn> donalsd: yes, well done about IRC. ;) so since the SSD is small than the HDD you will have to (a) select only some pasrtitions form the HDD to copy to the SSD, totalling to less than the SSD's available storage, (b) shrink some of the partitions on the HDD before copying them to the SSD, (c) create (smaller) file systems on the SSD as they are on the HDD and copy only select data from there (you would also need to copy the boot sector seperately
[12:47] <tomreyn> then) or (d) a combination of these.
[12:48] <Ermin> Where should I type this
[12:48] <Ermin> Ioria: ?
[12:49] <donalsd> tomreyn: Ubuntu is on a 40 GB partition of my HDD, so I will be copying that to the SSD. And what about the boot partition, how do I do that and which one is it?
[12:49] <ioria> Ermin, please , install a supported version (16.04 or 14.04) and don't use kali on that
[12:49] <donalsd> Also, will MBR create an problems?
[12:50] <donalsd> tomreyn: Also, will MBR create any problems?
[12:50] <Ermin> Ioria:So which version in which I can use kali
[12:50] <akik> donalsd: one thing to note is that you will be copying the UUID of the source partition on the new disk, so keep that in mind when you have both the source and target disk connected
[12:50] <ioria> Ermin,  you don't use kali on ubuntu
[12:51] <akik> donalsd: UUID of the source partition, i meant
[12:51] <donalsd> akik: How do I copy that?
[12:51] <Ermin> iora:Can I use fedora
[12:52] <ioria> Ermin,  idk, ask #fedora
[12:52] <Lorne2017> Im in 17.04 - I've messed up my monitor screen resolution/zoom...and cant see enough of the screen to fix it...is there an easy way to fix? Terminal cmd?
[12:53] <donalsd> I boot from the boot options menu in my BIOS setup. Since UEFI goes directly to Windows (can't help, HP things). So I need to press f9 when I boot and then I have two drives shown on the boot options menu (HDD and SSD), although the latter one is total blank
[12:53] <Ermin> ioria:thank u..if I have any doubt can I ask u?
[12:53] <ioria> Ermin,  about ubuntu, sure
[12:53] <donalsd> ioria: About HDDs to SSDs?
[12:54] <ioria> donalsd, not much, sy
[12:54] <tomreyn> donalsd: MBR won't cause problems by itself, no. i tried to create a simple partitoon list based on the information you provided on askubuntu,.com and here so far.
[12:54] <tomreyn> donalsd: https://pastebin.com/index/HNN8WAt6
[12:56] <akik> donalsd: your paste references that gparted can change it (the UUID)
[12:57] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: press ctrl-alt-f1 to login to the terminal. use "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr" (and add some options to xrandr) to temporariliy fix your resolution. then make it permanent on the GUI.
[12:57] <donalsd> tomreyn: Yes, they are almost the same, except that the linux partitions in the HDD have one for swap. (they will be created automatically?) And there are a few more partitions on the HDD as well (GPT).
[12:58] <Ermin> ioria, where should I type eol+ kali= reinstall
[12:59] <donalsd> akik: GParted doesn't seem to be able to do anything to the SSD, the last time I opened it. I did make the SSD fs to NTFS for Windows to read it as well, but it seems like Windows sees it as an unallocated space rather than a partition, unlike Gparted.
[12:59] <Ermin> tomreyn, ?
[13:00] <Lorne2017> tomreyn OK will try that (rebooting now)...what options do you suggest?
[13:00] <akik> donalsd: windows sees the same partitions but by default can't do anything with the linux partitions
[13:01] <akik> donalsd: the problem you might see is that after you copy the partition, you will have two UUIDs that are the same
[13:01] <donalsd> akik: So could you tell me the steps how to do what I need to fix this?
[13:02] <donalsd> Almost a noob at this.
[13:03] <akik> donalsd: after you copy your /boot and / on the ssd, are you planning to keep the old disk connected?
[13:03] <tomreyn> donalsd: please run 'lsblk --output NAME,LABEL,SIZE,FSTYPE,UUID | nc termbin.com 9999' and post the url here.
[13:04] <tomreyn> donalsd: also discuiss whether you plan to keep booting off the HDD or wish to boot off the SSD instead.
[13:04] <donalsd> akik: Yes. The HDD will serve as a file storage while SSD will be the OS storage and high performance app storage.
[13:04] <tomreyn> Ermin: yes, what's your question?
[13:05] <Ermin> How to unistall kali now
[13:05] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: no need to reboot for this. if oyu'll reboot you could instead hold down left shoift key and select the emergency / recovery boot option.
[13:05] <Ermin> ioria told about eol+ kali=reinstall
[13:05] <donalsd> tomreyn: I will be booting from the SSD. Since UEFI takes me to directly to Windows, I need to use Legacy in the BIOS and boot from the SSD manually.
[13:05] <Ermin> I don't get it
[13:06] <tomreyn> Ermin: make a fresh installation of ubuntu
[13:06] <tomreyn> Ermin: that's of a current, supported ubuntu release
[13:06] <Ermin> How..I can get in to it
[13:06] <donalsd> tomreyn: I will need to switch to Ubuntu for sending you the url, is there a way that I can restore the chat while I am offline in IRC? I am windows now.
[13:07] <tomreyn> Ermin: you don't uninstall an operating system, you just overwrite it.
[13:07] <tomreyn> Ermin: of course, you'll loose any data in the process.
[13:08] <akik> donalsd: you can save the log in your irc client
[13:08] <slavanap> Hello. Could you please explain how this command is computed: [ ! -z ${BACKEND+x} ] && echo "YES"
[13:08] <slavanap> Thanks
[13:08] <tomreyn> donalsd: since you currently boot from the HDD to windows, bootiong from the SDD to windows might cause trouble to that OS. but this is not something we can sort out here.
[13:08] <donalsd> akik: How do I do that? I am on the web browser.
[13:08] <akik> donalsd: offline messages will wait until you're back :)
[13:10] <tomreyn> donalsd: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/06/17/%23ubuntu.html
[13:10] <tomreyn> donalsd: you can find the IRC logs there.
[13:11] <donalsd> tomreyn: I manually boot from the "Notebook hard drive" when I boot after pressing f9 to go see the boot menu. It takes me to the grub.  So I guess I will be doing the same with the SSD as well, which is again "Notebook Hard Drive" but as the second option in the boot menu.
[13:12] <tomreyn> donalsd: you can do this, or you could install ubuntu's UEFI boot code.
[13:13] <donalsd> You guys are really nice, thanks for all the help. I am rebooting from Ubuntu now. I will be back. Just one minute.
[13:14] <donalsd> tomreyn: btw is there a way to see hourly logs of IRC?
[13:14] <Lorne2017> tomreyn OK - executed command...how do I esc the terminal screen to go back to GUI?
[13:14] <tomreyn> donalsd: not unless you write logs yourself, also, there will be some delay for the irclogs.ubuntu.com service.
[13:15] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: ctrl-alt-F7 usually
[13:15] <donalsd> Please provide me the logs once I come back online. Can't afford to lose them. Thanks!
[13:17] <Lorne2017> tomreyn OK I'm back into the UI - but no screen resolution changed
[13:18] <Lorne2017> tomreyn I'm pretty sure the biggest probelem is the zoom factor...I'm zoomed right in.... can I adjust that somehow?  (or even can I TAB down to the setting in the monitor>)
[13:19] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: did you experiment with xrandr options then?
[13:21] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: https://askubuntu.com/questions/379123/can-i-zoom-out-windows-or-scale-the-whole-desktop
[13:21] <Lorne2017> tomreyn I have no idea what options exist.... i'll google it
[13:21] <tomreyn> ^ always a good plan
[13:22] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: you can also run 'xrandr --help' to get a list of available xrandr options.
[13:23] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: maybe this is what you want (just a guess): DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale 1x1
[13:25] <donalsd> tomreyn: Hey, I am back!
[13:25] <donalsd> Could you provide me the logs?
[13:26] <Lorne2017> tomreyn ok the first command seemed ok...but when I went back and tried the others, I got an error...something like no output detected
[13:26] <Lorne2017> tomreyn so...I'm rebooting again.. (sorry)
[13:27] <Guest64448> no wonder my system is "sluggish", somehow it uses 97% of swap, which makes no sense
[13:28] <Guest64448> the memory listed in the task manager adds up only to <1.5 GB and the physical+swap are 4 GB total
[13:28] <Guest64448> any idea to where my memory has leaked and how to restore it?
[13:28] <donalsd> tomreyn: What was the command again you asked me to execute?
[13:30] <tomreyn> donalsd: sudo lsblk --output NAME,LABEL,SIZE,FSTYPE,UUID | nc termbin.com 9999' and post the url here
[13:31] <Lorne2017> tomreyn OK - I got "Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyCan't open display :0"
[13:31] <tomreyn> donalsd: irc logs are still at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[13:31] <akik> donalsd: here's the text your wrote http://paste.ubuntu.com/24880953/
[13:31] <donalsd> tomreyn: http://termbin.com/rhrgt
[13:33] <tomreyn> donalsd: very well. please discuss again which partitions you would like to copy to the SSD (and in which order you would like them placed there)
[13:34] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: plea always provide both the command you ran and the the error message you received.
[13:34] <tomreyn> *please
[13:35] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: also, which ubuntu release version is this?
[13:35] <tomreyn> lsb_release -sd
[13:35] <donalsd> tomreyn: Ubuntu is on sda9, the SSD is sdb, so I would like to create partitions on sdb to have an ext4 around (60 GB) for Ubuntu and the rest an NTFS for shared access to Windows apps.
[13:36] <Lorne2017> tomreyn I ran your exact command suggested : DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale 1x1 and got : Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyCan't open display :0
[13:36] <Lorne2017> tomreyn 17.04
[13:36] <akik> donalsd: now i understand what you meant by "ssd fs to ntfs for windows". you haven't partitioned /dev/sdb
[13:37] <donalsd> tomreyn: So, sda9 goes to maybe sdb1 (ext4) along with another swap partition. Another NTFS partition (sdb3?) stays for Windows.
[13:37] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: try this and provide the url: xrandr -d :0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:38] <donalsd> akik: Yes, I haven't done that yet. Also, is it a good idea to keep the home directory in the HDD? Since they will just be files and configs. SSD doesn't do very well with writes, I guess.
[13:39] <Guest64448> I think SSDs support writes
[13:39] <akik> donalsd: i use my ssds as normally as a hdd
[13:39] <Guest64448> they have evolved a lot since the beginning many years ago
[13:40] <Lorne2017> tomreyn http://termbin.com/qjfg
[13:40] <donalsd> So, it's fine to have the home in SSDs?
[13:40] <tomreyn> donalsd: current consumer SSDs are no more limited in writes than consumer hdds are, so you can ignore this factor.
[13:41] <tomreyn> donalsd: so you can safely place /home on an SSD, yes.
[13:41] <Guest64448> I think you should be fine with your home on an SSD
[13:41] <donalsd> Alrighty, that's great!
[13:42] <donalsd> tomreyn: So, how do I solve my little problem here? Detailed steps are very much welcome :D
[13:42] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: so try this: xrandr --output DVI-I-0 --scale 1x1
[13:42] <donalsd> I don't want to mess something up with my new SSD, costs a lot. Can't afford to get another (college fees!!) xD
[13:43] <tomreyn> donalsd: did you say whether you'd like a gpt or msdos partition table on the ssd?
[13:43] <Lorne2017> tomreyn after that comand i see "can't open display"
[13:43] <donalsd> tomreyn: is an MBR and msdos same?
[13:43] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: so try this: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output DVI-I-0 --scale 1x1
[13:44] <Lorne2017> tomreyn OK.  it seemed to take that.  should I F7 out?
[13:45] <donalsd> If MBR doesn't create a problem, then that's fine. It's only 110 usable gigabytes, so I don't think I will need more than 4 partitions.
[13:45] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: sure you can always switch back and forth
[13:46] <Lorne2017> tomreyn ok - I'm back in the GUI and the screen is still zoomed (top qtr of the screen is visible - with no way to scroll around)...as before
[13:46] <donalsd> tomreyn: I just need partitions to get Ubuntu running and a shared NTFS partition for Windows apps.
[13:46] <Lorne2017> tomreyn - I guess I mean top qtr of the desktop is visible in the screen....
[13:47] <tomreyn> donalsd: do you know gparted? there's a live cd called 'gparted-live' which lets you do this stuff graphically. it'd be better for you to learn to do it with command line utilities (and maybe sopmeone lese here is happy to guide you through the process) but i'm afraid i need to leave.
[13:47] <tomreyn> sopmeone lese -> someone else
[13:47] <donalsd> gparted doesn't seem to do anything to the ssd
[13:48] <tomreyn> donalsd: at least you know how to describe what you'Äd like to do now, and you could update your post with the lsblk output
[13:48] <tomreyn> donalsd: gparted will work on it, once you use it to delete the existing ntfs file system and created a new partitiont able
[13:48] <donalsd> So... Someone else?
[13:48] <Lorne2017> tomreyn Is it possible to TAB or Cursor down past the btm of the screen?  I feel like I could re-set it blind viw the UI if I could just navigate below the bottom of the screen
[13:49] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: sorry, i'm not sure what elese to try. and i need ot go.
[13:49] <donalsd> Okay gparted seems to be working
[13:50] <Lorne2017> tomreyn - thx for trying mate :)
[13:50] <tomreyn> Lorne2017: please sum up the issue again and what you have tried so far to handle it, maybe someone else can help.
[13:50] <donalsd> tomreyn: One last thing. Should I resize it now? Or after?
[13:51] <tomreyn> donalsd: if you'd like to keep the ntfs partition on sdb (the SSD) you'll best resize it now. be sure not to touch anything on sda, gparted is a potent weapon.
[13:52] <donalsd> tomreyn: So I will keep some space unallocated for Ubuntu installation and make some of it NTFS then. Sounds good?
[13:52] <tomreyn> unpartitioned space to take the ubuntu partition you'll copy, right
[13:52]  * tomreyn over + out
[13:53] <donalsd> tomreyn: Thanks!
[13:53] <Lorne2017> OK - I have a screen-zoomed-in problem.  In Display- I can't seen anything below: "Rotation: Normal Stickey Edges: ON"..I need to chnage the zooming back out.  I tried DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output DVI-I-0 --scale 1x1 - but didn't do anything
[14:05] <Lorne2017> OK - I have a screen-zoomed-in problem. 17.04  In Display- I can't seen anything below: "Rotation: Normal Stickey Edges: ON"..I need to chnage the zooming back out.  I tried DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output DVI-I-0 --scale 1x1 - but didn't do anything
[14:13] <donalsd> It seems like /dev/sdb is one partition and it has an unallocated space. Any ideas how to create a partition out of that unallocated space in gparted?
[14:14] <akik> donalsd: you need to create a new partition table on it
[14:15] <donalsd> akik: How do I do that?
[14:15] <akik> donalsd: save the data that is saved there now, then use "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"
[14:15] <ruicruz> hello. what's the best way to install Windows alongside ubuntu without destroying my current ubuntu instalation? I need to run an app and virtualbox dosn't run it properly.
[14:15] <akik> donalsd: you need to umount it first, before fdisk
[14:15] <donalsd> It's not mounted yet.
[14:16] <akik> donalsd: did you already copy data there from your source disk?
[14:16] <codecutter> sudo php7enmod mcrypt -> sudo: php7enmod: command not found
[14:16] <donalsd> akik: http://imgur.com/a/S9LP3
[14:17] <akik> donalsd: there problem you're seeing is because there's no partition table per se
[14:17] <donalsd> I want to make sure that there's one NTFS partition for Windows to see, and another unallocated space for Ubuntu to install. How do I do that?
[14:18] <donalsd> akik: does fdisk do the job?
[14:19] <akik> donalsd: "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb", then use "o" to create a new partition table. "m" gives you help
[14:19] <akik> donalsd: "n" will ask you details for a new partition
[14:20] <donalsd> akik: Should I create a gpt or mbr?
[14:20] <akik> donalsd: you said that mbr is ok?
[14:21] <akik> donalsd: actually it wasn't you sorry. it was tomreyn
[14:21] <donalsd> akik: one for windows, and two for ubuntu (swap and the os itself). Will it do?
[14:21] <akik> donalsd: yes, perfectly
[14:21] <donalsd> So mbr it is
[14:22] <donalsd> I am converting it now
[14:22] <donalsd> akik: Wish me luck!
[14:22] <akik> donalsd: good luck!
[14:23] <donalsd> akik: First step: Make it mbr with 'fdisk', 2nd: shrink the space and create two partitions (NTFS and Unallocated). Correct me if I am wrong.
[14:24] <akik> donalsd: by partitioning the disk anew, there's no shrinking needed. did you save all the data you had on that ntfs partition?
[14:24] <akik> ntfs .. thing
[14:24] <donalsd> the ntfs is empty, just some typical "System Volume information" thing from Windows. Can afford to lose.
[14:25] <akik> donalsd: ok then just use "o" in fdisk, followed by "n" which asks you for the new partition detail
[14:25] <donalsd> akik: You did see my screenshot, right?
[14:25] <akik> donalsd: yes
[14:25] <donalsd> Alrighty
[14:25] <donalsd> Primary?
[14:26] <akik> donalsd: the one where the whole sdb is one area without partitions
[14:26] <donalsd> akik: I should be selecting Primary, right?
[14:26] <akik> donalsd: yes three primary partitions is ok with possibly a fourth partitition as extended
[14:26] <donalsd> Okay, then
[14:26] <akik> donalsd: you can create more partitions under the extended partition if you need
[14:27] <donalsd> akik: Partition number?
[14:27] <akik> donalsd: they go from 1 to ..
[14:27] <donalsd> Yeah, what do I write?
[14:27] <donalsd> 1?
[14:27] <akik> donalsd: yes
[14:28] <donalsd> akik: Should I be writing 1?
[14:29] <akik> donalsd: yes
[14:29] <akik> donalsd: you know, this thing you're trying to do is really not for new users. even most experienced users would just reinstall on a new disk
[14:30] <donalsd> I think I would at least create the partition on the ssd, in case I fail, I will just reinstall. For now, I need the partition.
[14:31] <donalsd> akik: Also, there are a whole lot of configs that will take a lot of time for me to set up. That's 2 years worth of files.
[14:31] <akik> donalsd: sorry for calling you a new user :)
[14:32] <donalsd> akik: I have been in Linux for a while, but this SSD is a new thing. I have fiddled with the HDD a lot though. xD
[14:34] <donalsd> akik: First sector?
[14:34] <akik> donalsd: 2048
[14:34] <donalsd> akik: Wouldn't cause problems, right?
[14:34] <akik> donalsd: 2048? no
[14:35] <donalsd> akik: Last sector?
[14:35] <akik> donalsd: you can play with the partitions until you get them right. it will be written on the disk with "w"
[14:36] <donalsd> akik: Should I set the last sector to the default value?
[14:36] <akik> donalsd: you can tell the size with "+20G" or similar
[14:36] <akik> donalsd: if you use default, it will occupy the whole disk
[14:37] <donalsd> Okay, +60G for the Unallocated space, is that okay?
[14:38] <akik> donalsd: yes. you make the decisions now
[14:38] <donalsd> akik: And +50G on Partition 2 for NTFS.
[14:40] <codecutter> what does the -C option do here 'sudo tar xzvf apache-tomcat-8*tar.gz -C /opt/tomcat --strip-components=1'?
[14:40] <codecutter> ./configure?
[14:41] <codecutter> what do i after 'sudo tar xzvf libsodium-1.0.11.tar.gz -C /opt/libsodium'?
[14:42] <leftyfb> codecutter: according to the man page for tar, it's "change to directory DIR"
[14:42] <codecutter> ok
[14:42] <leftyfb> codecutter: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[14:42] <donalsd_> akik: Okay, tell me one thing. Will I have to put a partition for swap or will it come into the unallocated space automatically during the migration?
[14:42] <codecutter> i'm trying to install the tar file
[14:42] <leftyfb> why?
[14:43] <akik> donalsd_: you can create a partition for swap. it doesn't hurt
[14:44] <codecutter> what do i do at this stage? ./configure?
[14:44] <leftyfb> codecutter: why are you installing from source as opposed to the package manager?
[14:44] <Dreaman> wget
[14:44] <codecutter> i don;t think package is available
[14:44] <leftyfb> codecutter: sudo apt-get install libsodium18
[14:44] <donalsd_> How much? Is 4 GB fine?
[14:44] <akik> donalsd_: do you have an ubuntu installation usb stick? you'll need it later
[14:45] <codecutter> is that latest version?
[14:45] <donalsd_> I do have one. I guess.
[14:45] <leftyfb> codecutter: why do you think you need that package anyway?
[14:45] <codecutter> phpadmin
[14:45] <donalsd_> akik: Ubuntu 16.04, yes
[14:45] <leftyfb> codecutter: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[14:45] <leftyfb> that's all you need
[14:46] <akik> donalsd_: yes 4 gigs is fine. you wouldn't want to ever use 4 gigs of swap, though
[14:46] <Dreaman> akik  just install win part 2 for ubuntu  unetbootin download iso ubuntu  install part 2   swap /boot /  is root
[14:46] <codecutter>  'mcrypt' is depcracated, and i belieave 'libsodium' is its replacement
[14:46] <leftyfb> codecutter: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[14:46] <codecutter> i did that
[14:47] <leftyfb> ok, so what is the issue exactly?
[14:47] <codecutter> i need an alternative to 'mcrypt'
[14:47] <donalsd_> akik: Shit, nautilus doesn't show my drives.
[14:47] <leftyfb> codecutter: why?
[14:47] <leftyfb> codecutter: again, what is your end goal here?
[14:48] <codecutter> read this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-secure-phpmyadmin-with-nginx-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-server
[14:48] <leftyfb> codecutter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[14:48] <codecutter> go to teh line 'sudo php5enmod mcrypt'
[14:48] <akik> donalsd_: what do you mean? are you editing the wrong disk?
[14:49] <Dreaman> http://imgur.com/a/9c2h6   https://paste.ubuntu.com/24881363/  akik   is simple
[14:49] <codecutter> i'm using php 7, mcrypt is now depcrected
[14:49] <codecutter> #php suggests using libsodium as an alternative
[14:49] <leftyfb> codecutter: sudo apt-get install libsodium18
[14:50] <codecutter> do i delete the uncompressed files in /opt/libsodium?
[14:50] <leftyfb> codecutter: Why do you need phpmyadmin btw? Do you need to be constantly managing your mysql db through a web interface?
[14:50] <leftyfb> codecutter: yes
[14:50] <donalsd_> akik: Here, http://imgur.com/a/0qDby, left side bar used to show my drives (Store, Backup, Works, SSD etc.). My USB stick doesn't show up either.
[14:50] <codecutter> its a nice thing to have
[14:50] <codecutter> i do it mainly through the console
[14:50] <adrian_1908> Hey folks, does anyone have a ~/history/history.db file? I wonder where that came from, it's like a day old on my system.
[14:50] <leftyfb> codecutter: then don't bother with it
[14:51] <leftyfb> codecutter: "nice to have" != correct/secure
[14:51] <adrian_1908> (the folder is a day old I mean)
[14:51] <codecutter> actually, you might be right
[14:51] <codecutter> taking up extra disk space that i'm paying for
[14:52] <leftyfb> codecutter: the problem is, you're basically trying to make things "easy" on yourself by following instructions you don't quite understand. All of this is doing nothing but taking time away from learning how to do things properly
[14:52] <codecutter> :)
[14:52] <codecutter> wise man
[14:52] <donalsd_> akik: Can I close fdisk with ctrl+c and see if that's the problem?
[14:53] <akik> donalsd_: use "q"
[14:53] <donalsd_> akik: I need to put the last sector first. Okay
[14:53] <leftyfb> If you want to learn how to compile from source, that's great. If you want to learn how to install phpmyadmin and make it secure, that's great. But if the end goal is to run something like wordpress that uses mysql in the backend and you're not afraid of working in a mysql prompt, then focus on that.
[14:54] <donalsd_> akik: Nope, not showing up.
[14:54] <codecutter> sudo apt-get purge phpmyadmim -> E: Unable to locate package phpmyadmim
[14:54] <akik> donalsd_: does "lsblk" show everything?
[14:54] <leftyfb> codecutter: because you spelled it incorrectly
[14:54] <codecutter> ah
[14:55] <donalsd_> Yes, I did lsblk two minutes ago
[14:55] <leftyfb> codecutter: these are the things you should be focusing on, not compiling a library you don't need from source which you don't know how to do
[14:55] <codecutter> its been some time since i used linus
[14:55] <codecutter> linux*
[14:55] <donalsd_> akik: http://termbin.com/bi5o
[14:56] <sector_0> how do check which video driver is currently installed on my system?
[14:56] <akik> donalsd_: so nautilus is not working? can you still access everything in a terminal?
[14:56] <sector_0> and I'm not asking what GPU i'm using...I know which GPU I'm currently using...I want to know the DRIVER
[14:57] <leftyfb> codecutter: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/0596007604/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_BmurzbTB06Y4R   This helped me get started
[14:57] <donalsd_> akik: Nautilus just doesn't show my drives. Everything else is fine.
[14:57] <sector_0> because I've look at some SO question about this, and everyone give a method on how find find info on the GPU
[14:58] <akik> sector_0: "sudo lshw -c video" probably will work. it mentions driver in use
[14:58] <Lorne2017> Hey - I have a screen-zoomed-in problem. 17.04  In Display- I can't seen anything below: "Rotation: Normal Stickey Edges: ON"..I need to change the zooming back out.  I tried DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output DVI-I-0 --scale 1x1 - but didn't do anything
[14:59] <donalsd_> I will reboot and try
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> sector_0  try   lshw -c video
[15:05] <codecutter> leftyfb: do you need step 5 https://medium.com/@ldclakmal/deploy-a-java-web-application-in-digitalocean-882226dcdbd5 if you already have https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-nginx-on-ubuntu-16-04
[15:06] <donalsd> akik: Okay, the drives are back on nautilus
[15:07] <donalsd> akik: Let's get this clear, in fdisk, I will be creating partitions for 1. Ubuntu 2. Swap 3. Windows app storage. Right?
[15:07] <codecutter> i also have https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-secure-nginx-with-let-s-encrypt-on-ubuntu-16-04
[15:07] <Bitnova> anyone know how to install Xen hypervisor on Ubuntu 16.04?
[15:07] <akik> donalsd: looks ok
[15:08] <donalsd> akik: Or should I leave the space for Ubuntu unallocated?
[15:08] <donalsd> akik: Also, I have an 8 GB RAM, do I need a 4GB swap?
[15:08] <akik> donalsd: no. weren't you going to use clonezilla to do the copying?
[15:09] <donalsd> akik: Clonezilla, yes
[15:09] <donalsd> akik: So, I will have to create a partition rather than just an unallocated space?
[15:09] <akik> donalsd: yes clonezilla works with partitions
[15:10] <donalsd> akik: Any problems if the new SSD partition is bigger than the earlier HDD Ubuntu partition?
[15:11] <donalsd> akik: Like do they need to be exact or can the destination be bigger?
[15:11] <akik> donalsd: no. just make the same size partition if that's ok with you
[15:11] <akik> donalsd: bigger is ok
[15:12] <donalsd> akik:  Also, really appreciate for helping me out so long. Can't thank you enough. :D
[15:12] <akik> donalsd: i was thinking of how to tell you this but i need to soon leave for groceries :)
[15:13] <donalsd> ahh, okay, gimme a ping back if you return. :D I will see to what I can do
[15:13] <donalsd> akik: Thanks man! :)
[15:14] <donalsd> You have been real patient.
[15:14] <akik> donalsd: but the process is as follows: make the partitions on the ssd, boot clonezilla live and copy the partitions you want, then use gparted live to change the uuid on the ssd's root and swap, then boot ubuntu live to recreate the grub on the ssd
[15:14] <octo8> what do this do in terminal ? :(){:|:};
[15:14] <donalsd> akik: Got it! Thanks!
[15:15] <akik> donalsd: there's people here to help you
[15:15] <akik> octo8: please stop
[15:15] <akik> octo8: that's a fork bomb if i know one
[15:16] <octo8> akik: i really don't know what it is
[15:16] <octo8> i don't recommend that anyone use it
[15:16] <akik> octo8: don't run it, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[15:17] <Lorne2017> Hey - I have a screen-zoomed-in problem. 17.04  In Display- I can't seen anything below: "Rotation: Normal Stickey Edges: ON"..I need to change the zooming back out.  I tried DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output DVI-I-0 --scale 1x1 - but didn't do anything
[15:18] <akik> donalsd: when you change the uuids, you need to also change them in /etc/fstab of your copy
[15:19] <donalsd> akik: part of /etc/fstab which relates to the SSD or the HDD?
[15:19] <akik> donalsd: the copy on the ssd
[15:19] <donalsd> Okay!
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:19] <akik> donalsd: this process is pretty involved. hope you make it
[15:20] <donalsd> akik: I am trying my best, thanks!
[15:20] <Lorne2017> Hey - I have a screen-zoomed-in problem. 17.04  In Display- I can't seen anything below: "Rotation: Normal Stickey Edges: ON"..I need to change the zooming back out.  I tried DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output DVI-I-0 --scale 1x1 - but didn't do anything
[15:21] <donalsd> akik: Since my system is UEFI, someone on Askubuntu suggested me to use gpt. Should I do it?
[15:21] <Lorne2017> ...I also tried to "Teamviewer" into it remotely to try to chnage the zoom- but it won't connect for some reason
[15:22] <Paulie> Hi
[15:24] <donalsd> I can do whatever is in fdisk with Gparted as well, right?
[15:25] <Paulie> as pri and pub keys per user or for the server?
[15:25] <Paulie> are*
[15:35] <vlt> Paulie: Both.
[15:36] <Paulie> thanks I think i worked it out, I done cat id_rsa
[15:36] <Paulie> Copied the output into a file on my laptop
[15:37] <Paulie> then pointed mobaxterm to that file
[15:37] <Paulie> seems to work
[15:40] <donalsd> What's the difference between Partition name and partition label in Gparted?
[15:57] <beefjoe> I get an invalid symbol error when trying to unrar using archive manager and it happened with seveeral .rars so they're not corrupted..
[15:58] <CoderEurope> Hiya need a hand installing virt - manager http://paste.ubuntu.com/24881691/
[16:00] <leftyfb> CoderEurope: follow the instructions
[16:03] <CoderEurope> these instructions ? sorry I am a n00bhttp://elopio.net/blog/install-ubuntu-in-vm/
[16:03] <CoderEurope> these instructions ? sorry I am a n00b http://elopio.net/blog/install-ubuntu-in-vm/
[16:03] <tomreyn> CoderEurope: have you read the error message?
[16:03] <tomreyn> the one you posted
[16:03] <leftyfb> CoderEurope: the error message tells you the exact thing you need to type
[16:04] <CoderEurope> doing the correction now - although you cud 've typed that for me :( to coy & paste.
[16:05] <leftyfb> You copy and pasted it to us. Do we really need to copy and paste it back to you?
[16:09] <Lorne2017> Hey - I have a screen-zoomed-in problem. 17.04  In Display- I can't seen anything below: "Rotation: Normal Stickey Edges: ON"..I need to change the zooming back out.  I tried DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output DVI-I-0 --scale 1x1 - but didn't do anything
[16:14] <Lorne2017> ...anyone interested in Skyping to see my screen?  I'm sure this is an easy fix for someone who knows what they're doing....
[16:18] <Lorne2017> help....
[16:18] <Lorne2017> is no one on?
[16:18] <Lorne2017> ...there's like 200 people in here!!!
[16:18] <CoderEurope> yes dawg here - but I am a noob
[16:19] <Lorne2017> CoderEurope Sure man... I'm a noob too - but I keep thinking there's gotta be a simple solution to my prob....
[16:20] <CoderEurope> Lorne2017: so ask your problem, then (?)
[16:20] <Lorne2017> CoderEurope problem is (somehow) I have zoomed in my screen to only see the top qtr of my desktop!!  And there's no scroll bars or any way to get to the btm menu itema in the Display settings
[16:20] <Lorne2017> Hey - I have a screen-zoomed-in problem. 17.04  In Display- I can't seen anything below: "Rotation: Normal Stickey Edges: ON"..I need to change the zooming back out.  I tried DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output DVI-I-0 --scale 1x1 - but didn't do anything
[16:21] <Lorne2017> CoderEurope - I thought I could plug in a second screen to get more visibility to desktop - but it just resizes the qtr screen I can see across both screens!
[16:21] <CoderEurope> Lorne2017: so reboot ?
[16:21] <Lorne2017> CoderEurope  done that like 10 times already... no change
[16:22] <CoderEurope> Lorne2017: eyond me then - search askubuntu for "repair packages".
[16:23] <Lorne2017> CoderEurope I've tried keyboard shortcuts to TAB down to the other menu items...but it won't....I've tried to resize the window...but it won't go any smaller....
[16:23] <leftyfb> Lorne2017: tried rebooting?
[16:23] <Lorne2017> leftyb   only about 10 times :/
[16:28] <Lorne2017> CoderEurope - ok I'm trying a repair package...
[16:29] <Lorne2017> CoderEurope (but I kinda feel like its not "broken"... its just a "screen zoom" setting that I must have accidentally put outta wack....
[16:30] <Lorne2017> CoderEurope In broswer I can use ctl+alt+-  (or +) to zoom in and out of the browser...if I could do that to my whole desktop, it would solve the problem!
[16:32] <vlt> Hello. Our xrdp servers on Ubuntu 16.04 sometimes stop listening to port 3389 and no more logins are possible while all the old sessions are still running. Any idea what causes this? How can I reload the xrdp server without having to close the existing sessions?
[16:34] <rictaslix> vlt: Have you checked your xrdp logs?
[16:37] <anddam> hello, on 16.04 /usr/bin/python is still python2.7, is that right?
[16:37] <anddam> there's not alternatives to set it to python3, it will follow the suggested naming from PSF
[16:38] <rud0lf> anddam: /usr/bin/python --version
[16:38] <rud0lf> just to be sure :)
[16:38] <anddam> rud0lf: yeah, I checked that already
[16:39] <anddam> point is I was somehow recalling a news saying that "blahblah ubuntu moved its internal scripts to python3 blahblah"
[16:39] <usura> hello every body
[16:39] <anddam> and so I inferred the idea that python  -> python3 would happen
[16:39] <Xtreme> As cross-channel posting is not good, requesting someone to assist me in ##linux
[16:39] <usura> this is working?
[16:40] <anddam> Xtreme: why not jsut ask in the proper channel?
[16:40] <anddam> Xtreme: I may be missing some context here tho'
[16:40] <Xtreme> okay. well pasting it here then.
[16:40] <Xtreme> https://pastebin.com/Pcxu3aT1 => can someone help me with this?
[16:40] <anddam> Xtreme: topic?
[16:41] <Xtreme> Looks similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1627539 with [    0.221754] acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed (AE_ERROR); disabling ASPM error.
[16:41] <vlt> rictaslix: Yes. I don't see anything suspicious.
[16:41] <Xtreme> And the most weirdest part is, I get that error only when my laptop lid is closed
[16:41] <Jerbot> I accidentally moved everything out of my home directory
[16:41] <Jerbot> how can I move everything back?
[16:42] <EriC^^> Jerbot: where did you move it to?
[16:42] <Jerbot> opt/a/
[16:42] <Xtreme> so anddam now you have everything.
[16:42] <Xtreme> Jerbot, not an expert, but i belive moving everything back and chown will solve your problem.
[16:42] <Jerbot> and it created a folder named Frogger
[16:43] <Jerbot> the problem is, I don't know how to target the home folder.  I think I can just use mv
[16:43] <Xtreme> you can find it in /etc/passwd
[16:43] <Jerbot> I can't do ../home because it's two directories up
[16:43] <Xtreme> next to your username
[16:43] <Jerbot> Xtreme: and I also can't figure out if I should write home or home$ or home\$/
[16:43] <Xtreme> and you can just to mv /opt/a/frogger /home/whateverusername
[16:44] <anddam> Xtreme: that llooks beter in ##linux or a wireless-linux channel
[16:44] <Jerbot> So I'm actually supposed to move it INTO a username?!?!!
[16:44] <anddam> Jerbot: you're not making much sense
[16:44] <Jerbot> but why is it when I go to /home I don't have to type my username?
[16:44] <Xtreme> anddam, thats where i was
[16:44] <Jerbot> that's so bizarreo
[16:44] <anddam> Jerbot: describe your problem as it appears now
[16:45] <Jerbot> When I moved it to /home, that worked.
[16:45] <akik> Jerbot: your home directory is /home/username
[16:45] <anddam> like "I type ls, I expect my files to show but nothing's there instead"
[16:45] <Jerbot> My biggest problem, today, was that I couldn't move any files using file explorer.  I thought that should be very easy just to move some files around.  Because the app I wanted to use wasn't in the pkg manager.
[16:46] <akik> kde's dolphin obfuscates this, calling /home/username your "home"
[16:46] <Xtreme> akik, i think many explorers do it.
[16:49] <Jerbot> that's weird.  Every time I go to the /home directory I hae always seen all my files there. I never saw my username there.
[16:49] <akik> Jerbot: it's "always" been like that
[16:51] <Slart> Jerbot: nautilus the shortcut for your home folder is called "Home" ie the left panel shortcuts. The directory is actually called "/home/yourusername" though.. is this what the confusion is about?
[16:51] <Slart> *in nautilus
[16:59] <HJL> macos does the same thing
[16:59] <HJL> fools you into thinking otherwise
[17:12] <anddam> point is an user should make difference between '/home' and 'Home'
[17:16] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:18] <HJL> agreed
[17:19] <LogicalDash> I'd like to run an apt update and upgrade on my hard drive while actually running ubuntu from a USB. When I chroot into it to use apt, I get a bunch of Temporary failure in name resolution. This was also happening when booting from hard disk, which was why I was booting the USB to begin with
[17:20] <LogicalDash> I'm using 17.04 btw
[17:21] <vlt> LogicalDash: What does /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[17:21] <HJL> I see Lubuntu is minimalist gui.  Does ubuntu have a flavour of non-gui live?
[17:24] <compdoc> theres ubuntu server, but I dont think it can load live
[17:24] <LogicalDash> vlt: it's empty. weird
[17:25] <HJL> compdoc: cant, that was my first try too
[17:25] <LogicalDash> vlt: Ok, I copied the resolv.conf from the bootdisk and now I'm hitting the servers but it's also giving me E: Method store has died unexpectedly!
[17:25] <LogicalDash> E: Sub-process store received signal 7.
[17:28] <LogicalDash> Maybe I should just reinstall
[17:29] <Bashing-om> LogicalDash: Ypu loose the symlink " lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Oct 16  2016 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf " ?
[17:29] <LogicalDash> I guess so
[17:30] <LogicalDash> I put it back, thanks Bashing-om
[17:31] <Bashing-om> LogicalDash: :) my bit to try and help .
[17:33] <LogicalDash> So what's sub-process store? there's no command line utility by that name
[17:34] <LogicalDash> Oh, my temp directory is missing? Bizarre
[17:35] <LogicalDash> Well, empty
[17:36] <LogicalDash> The strace shows a bunch of missing files in /var/lib/apt/lists
[17:38] <LogicalDash> The last thing I remember doing before this was changing to the nvidia graphics drivers
[17:40] <tgm4883> HJL: what would be the point of a non-gui live ISO?
[17:45] <Kaixxl> liveterminalcd sounds like a thing
[17:45] <akik> HJL: stop the login manager and get a non-gui live?
[17:56] <tgm4883> Kaixxl: Still not sure I understand the point. The reason for the live cd is to try it out before installing.
[17:56] <deadc0rps> technically yes
[17:56] <deadc0rps> but also to do some other things like install grub, or do a rescue
[17:57] <deadc0rps> basically is a linux to do stuff, and show that ubuntu is pretty flexible
[17:58] <tgm4883> deadc0rps: Which can all be accomplished from the regular live cd...
[17:58] <deadc0rps> i used the live cd on a usb to change my disk partitions
[17:58] <deadc0rps> yes, but with ubuntu you have all the tools already installed, like gparted and others
[17:59] <tgm4883> deadc0rps: yep, more a reason to use the regular live cd than need a terminal only cd
[18:00] <deadc0rps> yeah, sure. i mean, there's no need for a ubuntu live cd, but is a nice thing to have because it's easy to use
[18:00] <deadc0rps> that's all, i'm agree with you, a linux live cd is the same
[18:01] <tgm4883> deadc0rps: correct. I was just trying to figure the need for a ubuntu terminal only live cd, which makes zero sense to me
[18:01] <deadc0rps> well... have you ever used archlinux?
[18:01] <|\n> hello, after update to 16.04 hostapd is shutting down claiming [SMPS-STATIC] is not supported, previously it worked with this certain config, any hints appreciated, thanks
[18:01] <tgm4883> deadc0rps: yes
[18:02] <|\n> (iw proves it is supported)
[18:02] <tgm4883> deadc0rps: I've installed archlinux before (the hard way) and used it for awhile
[18:02] <deadc0rps> well, then you know the good thing about having a desktop environment and all the wireless tools intalled from the go
[18:02] <deadc0rps> that's what i think is the best thing about ubuntu live cd
[18:03] <tgm4883> deadc0rps: we're both in agreement then
[18:06] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I have an iMac5,1 (late 2006). I'd like to install an LTS version of Ubuntu. Is anyone here familiar with running 16.04 LTS on the metal of an iMac5,1 ?
[18:09] <HJL> deadc0rps: yes, to do hard drive testing actually
[18:10] <|\n> okay, i've discovered this one https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2015-January/030939.html
[18:10] <|\n> but still i don't get it, previously it worked fine
[18:11] <|\n> not sure if it has anything to do with ubuntu instance
[18:11] <|\n> :/
[18:13] <Zta> Anyone who can help me with enabling the swap flag using parted?  https://pastebin.com/GYJk3Y5e
[18:16] <Bashing-om> Zta: Swap is controlled from /etc/fstab - make sure the UUID agrees with ' sudo blkid ' .
[18:17] <Zta> Ok, so need to set the flag?  It's peculiar because (parted) help set  knows of a swap type, but obviously fails to set it.
[18:18] <tomreyn> you dont need to set the flag
[18:18] <HJL> I thought swapon was the command?
[18:18] <mattjnt3> SUP NOOBS :)) :)) :))
[18:18] <|\n> sup ;_;
[18:19] <mattjnt3> so how's going figuring out what linux is
[18:20] <|\n> my wlan is borken, updated to 16.04 and hostapd now says that ht capab [SMPS-STATIC] is not longer supported, but iw still says it is and it was working previously
[18:21] <beaver> ubottu: info nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[18:21] <mattjnt3> i suppose you should repeat it 4 times before someone ever gives attention to a such question
[18:21] <beaver> !info nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[18:21] <mattjnt3> unfurtunutely
[18:21] <tomreyn> mattjnt3: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:22] <mattjnt3> tomreyn, no, i am offtopic
[18:22] <tomreyn> mattjnt3: then please stop.
[18:22] <mattjnt3> tomreyn, please don't tell me what to do
[18:22] <mattjnt3> i will decide it by myself kthx
[18:25] <oerheks> beaver, it should, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[18:25] <mattjnt3> nice article https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Linux_for_Niggers
[18:25] <tomreyn> !ops mattjnt3
[18:25] <tomreyn> !ops
[18:25] <mattjnt3> !ops tomreyn
[18:25] <oerheks> mattjnt3, you are free to leave now.
[18:26] <mattjnt3> oerheks, no you
[18:26] <Zta> HJL: swapon is the command to manually enable swap.  Are there any problems with installing Gnome on default Ubuntu 17.04?
[18:29] <Slart> Novice201y: I've never had any problems installing gnome.. haven't tried it on 17.04 though but I would be very surprised if it was problematic
[18:29] <Zta> tomreyn: I read that these flags aren't really used in modern partitions (gpt).  But they can be used by tools to figure out what the overall purpose of a partition is, e.g. raid or swap, and act upon it.  So I thought that since swap is pretty straight-forward it would be useful to set. But nevermind.  I looked at my disk, my swap is defined liked yours but the flag column is blank. I think you're ok.
[18:31] <mattjnt3> :(
[18:31] <Zta> pavlos: Thanks =)
[18:31] <mattjnt3> i can't talk
[18:31] <mattjnt3> help !ops
[18:32] <popsch> is this bug still a problem in ubuntu 16.04? https://blog.hyperexpert.com/how-to-get-killer-wireless-ac-1525-working-with-ubuntu/
[18:32] <popsch> specifically this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1383184
[18:33] <mattjnt3> you will need to ban many US subnets today
[18:33] <mattjnt3> prepare for a long trip
[18:33] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:34] <Slart> popsch: seems like the latest comment was almost a year ago.. can you try it on a live cd?
[18:34] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:34] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:34] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:34] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:34] <Zta> Can't I mount using partition label instead of partition uuid?  I find labels more readable
[18:34] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:34] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:34] <|\n> !gay hes here again
[18:34] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:34] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:35] <tomreyn> Zta: i think you still can, but surely uuids ar emore unique
[18:35] <|\n> i mean !ops
[18:35] <Slart> Zta: if it is readability you're after you can always add comments to the fstab file.. I'm not sure if there is a way to mount by label
[18:35] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:35] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:35] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:35] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:36] <mattjnt3> just because i love you!
[18:36] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:36] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:36] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:36] <mattjnt3> <3
[18:36] <popsch> Slart, no, because the machine is 8000 km away from me :)
[18:36] <popsch> seems like the bug is still happening
[18:36] <Slart> popsch: ahh =) that makes it a bit more troublesome
[18:37] <popsch> there's nothing like debugging your parent's machine on a weekend
[18:37] <Zta> Slart: Good point.  Well, the mount points themselves explain everything pretty well.  It's just the partition uuids that are ... unreadable
[18:37] <mattjnt3> because i love you!
[18:38] <mattjnt3> so can we talk about niggers now?
[18:41] <Slart> Zta: this seems to suggest there is a way to mount using labels.. at least on arch.. and 8 years ago.. but still =) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=81089
[18:41] <johncena_> we'll talk about niggers now
[18:41] <Slart> Zta: I seem to recall there being a push to use uuid's instead... not sure if it's disabled though
[18:42] <johncena_> let's talk bout niggers
[18:43] <Zta> nevermind, I'll use uuid. Might as well get used to those.
[18:44] <Zta> Sometimes I miss the old /dev/hda1 days ;)
[18:44] <Slart> until you changed something and it moved your disks
[18:44] <Slart> =)
[18:44] <TheMaster> Well you can still use  /dev/sda1  /  ext4...But not really a point to doing so.
[18:45] <johncena_> so this channel is racist because i can't talk about niggers.
[18:46] <Zta> heh
[18:46] <Zta> kids
[18:46] <mircx1> hello i need please help
[18:47] <Slart> schools are out for summer.. it's to be expected
[18:47] <HJL> trolls.  No matter how old irc is, still has em
[18:47] <mircx1> how i edit iptables from terminal
[18:47] <HJL> I expected irc to get better, people that want to be here stay and the morons leave, but alas, I am wrong
[18:47] <Slart> mircx1: there is a iptables command
[18:47] <mircx1> is have commands from terminal like nano /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[18:47] <mircx1> i want to know if this right
[18:47] <mircx1> this a commands
[18:48] <Slart> mircx1: but afaik any settings you make will be lost when you reboot.. there are other ways to do this
[18:48] <Zta> How nice, mkswap also prints the newly generated UUID =)
[18:48] <mircx1> Slart
[18:48] <mircx1> you know commands?
[18:48] <Slart> mircx1: are you sure you need to use iptables in a terminal though? there are easier ways
[18:49] <Slart> !ufw
[18:49] <mircx1> i want edit iptables from text
[18:49] <thewillo> is there an upgrade ability from LTS to normal release?
[18:50] <mircx1> this not very much help to me Slart
[18:50] <Slart> mircx1: there is a command that exports iptables settings to a text file.. I think it is iptables-save
[18:50] <Flannel> thewillo: yes.  You can upgrade from LTS to the next release, or from LTS to LTS.
[18:50] <Slart> mircx1: you can edit that file and load it back in with iptables-restore
[18:50] <compdoc> mircx1, this isnt really a good place to learn iptables.
[18:50] <mircx1> i need a commands there is no have commands to terminal like it gedit /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[18:50] <spacecum> you know what
[18:50] <spacecum> i will talk about that anyways
[18:50] <thewillo> Flannel, what is the comannd to upgrade to next non-LTS or current version
[18:51] <spacecum> n1gg3rs is a good topic
[18:51] <Flannel> thewillo: There's no different command, you just need to change your configuration slightly (to make the upgrade stuff look for "any" new release instead of just "lts" releases, and then run the regular tools.
[18:52] <thewillo> thanks
[18:52] <deadc0rps>
[18:54] <Slart> mircx1: there is no easy way to do this that I know of
[18:54] <gr8man> it's impossible
[18:54] <Slart> mircx1: there are other ways of managing your firewall
[18:56]  * HJL is a fan of fwbuilder
[18:59] <mdelisle> hi. I need help. I have 6 GPU on my board. when I run lspci | grep VGA. I see my 6 cards. but when I open nvidia, I see only 2 gpu. when I run the command lshw -C video, I see the list of my display but I have 1 onboard display, + 2 display nvidia, and I see 4 display mark as Unclaimed.
[19:00] <Jean-Philippe> 6 GPU lol wtf\
[19:00] <Slart> that's it.. I refuse to help anyone who has more gpus than I have cpu cores.. I will now go cry in a corner ;)
[19:01] <Jean-Philippe> lol who needs 6 GPU??
[19:01] <Slart> mdelisle: no.. not seriously.. I would help if I could..
[19:01] <Slart> Jean-Philippe: there are probably lots of people out there doing special things with gpus
[19:02] <Slart> big simulators.. number crunchers etc
[19:02] <migmolrod> frying eggs etc
[19:02] <Jean-Philippe> frying eggs lool
[19:04] <mdelisle> yeah its to compile many video in same time
[19:04] <mdelisle> using gpu is faster
[19:05] <Slart> mdelisle: is this a new install? or it stopped working?
[19:05] <mdelisle> new install
[19:07] <ioria> mdelisle, you could  paste sudo lshw -C video  ...
[19:07] <Slart> did you disable nouveau? ( the open source nvidia driver )
[19:08] <Slart> mdelisle: this might be useful https://superuser.com/questions/956868/ubuntu-box-with-multiple-nvidia-graphic-cards
[19:09] <Zta> I was playing around with mkswap and lsblk and I discovered something rather disturbing: Sometimes there's a delay before lsblk can read the correct data, specifically the UUID! https://pastebin.com/eYB9PTWX
[19:10] <Zta> mkswap does print the correct UUID after creating the fs.  But lsblk output is easier to parse, so I wanted to use that.   But now I think I'll be okay with a little grepping and cutting =)
[19:11] <Zta> Label is also out of sync.  See lines 1, 11, 14, 17.
[19:11] <Slart> Zta: ah.. tricky.. that would have taken some while to realise
[19:12] <Zta> Now... what were we talking about... something about UUID vs /dev/sda2? ;)
[19:14] <Slart> at least the "hello-1" and the 52 uuid matched up..
[19:14] <Slart> it feels like it's just handing that stuff over to a background process.. "here.. do this when you have time"..
[19:16] <Zta> Jup.  man blkid says it's preferred to use lsblk because it doesn't require root.  But it also seems this comes at a price.
[19:17] <Zta> I wonder if blkid gets the right info
[19:18] <RealPanV> Hello! Running Ubuntu on an external hard drive, (/dev/sdc*) , bootloader used to be on /dev/sda* (the hard drive also had Windows installed) but- tl;dr grub rescue, I'm on a live usb, can't mount /dev/sda1 (location of the bootloader) because the NTFS partition is in an unsafe state.
[19:19] <RealPanV> And ro access would be useless considering I want to run grub-update
[19:19] <Zta> yeah, blkid seems reliable (based on two runs).
[19:21] <Zta> Slart: Heh, man lsblk has a little note at the end of its description section ;)
[19:21] <codecutter> how do i cancel a stalled sftp transfer?
[19:21] <migmolrod> @RealPanV have you already seen this? https://itsfoss.com/solve-ntfs-mount-problem-ubuntu-windows-8-dual-boot/
[19:21] <Zta> syncing with udev
[19:21] <RealPanV> Nope, didn't search around enough I guess
[19:21] <migmolrod> @RealPanV I've a similar problem actually. using ubuntu now, can't mount c: where windows is installed
[19:22] <RealPanV> Jeez, how could I possibly forget the ntfsfix command
[19:22] <migmolrod> XD
[19:22] <RealPanV> I need some caffeine
[19:23] <Zta> Running udevadm settle before lsblk helps.
[19:23] <Zta> RealPanV: Me too!
[19:23] <tomreyn> codecutter: have you tried pressing Ctrl-C?
[19:24] <tomreyn> i guess it dpeends on the client you use
[19:24] <codecutter> ofcourse
[19:24] <tomreyn> you can always kill the process.
[19:24] <codecutter> it just goes to the next line containing the contents of the previous line
[19:24] <ShaRose> So, I've basically given up coaxing dracut to work with a luks-encrypted zfs root for 16.04... anyone want to guess at how much fun I'm going to have converting a dracut script to initramfs?
[19:24] <migmolrod> @RealPanV if you want to avoid it in the future, it seems you can actually disable that "Fast Start" """feature""" from windows that is causing the ntfs unsafe state
[19:24] <codecutter> just did that
[19:25] <RealPanV> migmolrod: I was playing around with the BIOS settings and accidentally turned on Fast Boot.
[19:25] <|\n> updated to 16.04, result: hostapd now says that ht capab [SMPS-STATIC] is no longer supported, iw is showing it, was working previously, maybe someone knows when exactly it happened because i believe i'm not the only one with such thingy
[19:25] <migmolrod> my BIOS doesn't even have that option, yet i get the error hahaha
[19:25] <RealPanV> I think you can turn it off on windows
[19:26] <RealPanV> dont quote me on that
[19:26] <migmolrod> yep. looks like that as i'm reading
[19:26] <migmolrod> will try it next time i boot windows. like next month or so hahaha
[19:26] <Bashing-om> Zta: To clear cache and get new view: ' sudo blkid -c /dev/null -o list ' .
[19:27] <tomreyn> codecutter: what you describe is not the behaviour i would expect to see when hitting ctrl-c on an ongoing sftp (the CLI utility of the openssh package) transfer. maybe check dmesg.
[19:28] <Zta> Bashing-om: Yes, well.  First: I've fixed it with "udevadm settle". Secondly: lsblk is interesting because it has nice output and doesn't require root.  Neither does udevadm settle.  But your solution does =)
[19:29] <codecutter> when making a ssh connectiion i have to enter  " eval `ssh-agent -s` " and " and ssh-add ~/.ssh/project" else i get Permission denied (publickey).
[19:30] <codecutter> how do i fix this?
[19:30] <pavlos> |\n: see this, not sure if it helps ... https://github.com/wifiphisher/wifiphisher/issues/219
[19:30] <akik> Zta: do you get the FSTYPE and UUID columns with "lsblk --output NAME,LABEL,SIZE,FSTYPE,UUID" without using sudo? i don't
[19:30] <|\n> o/ pavlos thx
[19:31] <Zta> akik: I do.
[19:32] <akik> Zta: ok it's a change between 14.04 and 16.04. on 14.04 i don't see them without sudo
[19:32] <Zta> but only for devices that have uuid.    But everything has an fstype.
[19:33] <Zta> lsblk is neat-o.  You should dist upgrade ;)
[19:33] <|\n> nah, pavlos, unfortunately hostapd -d explicitly states that it fails at this certain capab, removing it from old previously working config makes things spin heh
[19:33] <|\n> but thanks
[19:35] <Zta> Great!  My swap partitions seem to mount.  But I messed up my RAID array somehow, so ... there's  that =)
[19:35] <pavlos> |\n: the hostapd config file should list the HT_capab and it could be an issue, see ... http://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?t=14513
[19:36] <MarkB2> After loading 16.04 LTS 64-bit, the system was quite snappy... that is, it was fast, everything popped up near instantly.. good stuff.  After a few  sudo apt-get update and upgrade cycles though... it acts like cold molasses flowing uphill.
[19:37] <sebsebseb> MarkB2: hmm nope  should work well enough even after some upgdates installed here and there etc
[19:37] <MarkB2> Right-click on background, wait 15 seconds for the little popup.  Select terminal.. and wor, does that take FOREVER (at least a minute).
[19:37] <sebsebseb> MarkB2: how much RAM, what kind of computer etc?
[19:38] <MarkB2> Intel i5 (quad core pentium class) at 1.7 GHz, 4 GB RAM.
[19:38] <MarkB2> I have it on the table behind me...
[19:39] <sebsebseb> MarkB2: how did you install Ubuntu?
[19:39] <oerheks> MarkB2, disable some indexing sevice in the background usually helps > systemsettings > privacy > file/applications - off
[19:39] <MarkB2> The directions say to insert target media into the slot, get the image written to an SDHC device, and use the BIOS to boot the SDHC image.
[19:39] <MarkB2> That starts up an installer.. and in it goes.
[19:40] <MarkB2> There's an INDEXING service running???
[19:40] <MarkB2> GRRRR...
[19:40] <oerheks> wait, you load a live iso and you run updates ???
[19:40] <MarkB2> Give me a minute to fire the thing up.
[19:40] <MarkB2> It's not a "live ISO".  The image is an installer and it puts itself into the installed drive.
[19:41] <MarkB2> Let me get the thing fired up... one moment.
[19:41] <|\n> pavlos, this certain line used to work with ralink on pci bus since idk 12.04 probably (can't remember well) until 16.04 "ht_capab=[SMPS-STATIC][GF][SHORT-GI-20][SHORT-GI-40][HT40-][HT40+][RX-STBC12][TX-STBC1]"
[19:41] <MarkB2> Well as much as a moment this thing takes...
[19:42] <|\n> after proceeding to 16.04 it is enough to remove [SMPS-STATIC] from it to make it work, i wonder what is the reason for it, since iw lists it
[19:43] <tomreyn> codecutter: "man ssh_config" - you can add 'Host' records in ~/.ssh/config which indicate the SSH public key to authenticate with ('IdentityFile')
[19:43] <pavlos> |\n: idk, seems things changed in hostapd moving to 16.04
[19:43] <MarkB2> It comes up with this big purple screen with "Ubuntu 16.04" right in the middle and four little blips below.. one blipping up after another.  It's STILL doing it.
[19:43] <MarkB2> Blipping, that is.
[19:44] <|\n> pavlos, thank you for that assumption!
[19:46] <MarkB2> Okay.. turned off the app-usage recording.   Ran  systemd-analyze blame   and got a list of startup applications and the time it took for them to run.
[19:47] <MarkB2> This one startup thing..  systemd-rfkill.service takes 10 seconds to run.
[19:48] <tomreyn> MarkB2: which directions are you following (URL)? which installer / image are you using?
[19:48] <MarkB2> Let me get the URL ... one moment.
[19:49] <MarkB2> https://developer.ubuntu.com/core/get-started/intel-joule
[19:49] <tomreyn> and maybe discuss the overall goal + purpose and choices you have taken, too
[19:49] <MarkB2> Look about two-thirds down the page to the "Alternative install".
[19:50] <MarkB2> The computer is an Intel Joule 570x with Intel's expansion board.
[19:51] <MarkB2> It's being used to control a bunch of stuff via i2c .. and I've managed to interface a joystick to the GPIO pins.
[19:51] <MarkB2> This thing used to fly along... then doing the update/upgrade started installing stuff ...
[19:51] <MarkB2> then the performance just croaked.
[19:55] <tomreyn> MarkB2: i see. it's good to immediately point out that you use non standard installations when asking questions here. otherwise people will have different expectations.
[19:56] <MarkB2> tomreyn: Ubuntu/Canonical does provide those instructions for installing 16.04 onto this platform and what I described is exactly what they call for.
[19:56] <MarkB2> ..called for.. and what was done.
[19:58] <AlexPortable> How do I make my external disk actually stay spinned down after removing it in 'Computer' ?
[19:58] <AlexPortable> I click on 'safely remove', then it'll spin down for 2 seconds, and then spin up again and get mounted again
[19:58] <tomreyn> MarkB2: i understand that this is a development (beta) installation method for specific hardware. i don't know the details of this installation media and cannot tell how it'll behave. but we can just assume (guess) that it'll behave just like an official image and go from there.
[19:58] <tomreyn> MarkB2: what size is the flash media?
[19:59] <MarkB2> 16 GB.
[19:59] <n-iCe> which ons is more lightweight, xubuntu or lubuntu
[19:59] <MarkB2> More than that.. and the Joule can't handle it.
[20:00] <MarkB2> tomreyn: Both installed and installer media are 16 GB Class 10 microSDHC cards.
[20:00] <Zta> I'm new to RAID and still trying to learn how the configuration fits together. I've made my partitions (parted...), I've assembled my array (mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md44 --name=data --level=raid1 --metadata=1.2 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sd{a,b}1), I've formatted the array (sudo mkfs -t ext4 -L myserver-data /dev/md44)  and I've setup /etc/fstab to mount by UUID.  And then there's /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf...
[20:00] <tomreyn> MarkB2: okay, maybe it's already quite full, and maybe it's a bad file system. you could use 'df -h' on the running system to check both.
[20:01] <tomreyn> *bad file system choice for this storage media
[20:03] <tomreyn> MarkB2: also check 'dmesg -T' for any issues suggesting that I/O may be impacted.
[20:03] <Zta> What's mdadm.conf? Why does /dev/md44 become /dev/md127 after reboot? And /dev/md/hostname:data instead of /dev/md/data like I named it? I've tried appending the output of mdadm --examine --brief /dev/sd{a,b}1 to mdadm.conf, but this command says the device is caled /dev/md/data but like I said, this doesn't exist, so mount fails.
[20:04] <MarkB2> tomreyn: Ah.. Thank you... I'd nearly forgotten about dmesg.   -T?  Will do..  Thank you  brb.
[20:04] <Zta> Stuff is not referenced properly.
[20:04] <tomreyn> MarkB2: -T shows records in your local time zone.
[20:06] <tomreyn> MarkB2: btw. i imagine there can be dedicated B2B support available through either Intel or Canonical for your work on this device. Just a guess.
[20:09] <MarkB2> tomreyn: apparmor is recording a TON of notices to the kernel ring.
[20:10] <tomreyn> MarkB2: maybe it's just not designed for use with this special Intel Atom (not core i5) SoC
[20:10] <MarkB2> tomreyn: I suppose I deserved that... I picked up this thing after learning of an opportunity with a shop using it.  Hiring manager said, "Figure this out and there's a job here."
[20:11] <MarkB2> Hm.  it's a quad-core Intel SoC.  apologies.. it "looked" like a slow i5 equivalent.
[20:11] <tomreyn> no worries, it doesn't really matter that much.
[20:12] <MarkB2> But, I see your point.  I should not be using this forum to advance my chance of finding work.
[20:12] <MarkB2> Not fair to everyone.
[20:12] <tomreyn> i'll have to leave unfortunately, good luck. check also /var/log/syslog and consider stopping apparmor.
[20:12] <MarkB2> Thank you .  Will check into it.
[20:13] <MarkB2> And, oh yeah, Intel is hip deep into this "snap" stuff.
[20:16] <Zta> Ah!  It seems like I can live without modifying my mdadm.conf, and simply rely on mounting by UUID once it fs has been assembled and created.
[20:17] <pavlos> MarkB2: for reference, https://communities.intel.com/community/tech/intel-joule/
[20:18] <oerheks> MarkB2,  when i run snap find Joule there are 2 files popping up
[20:18] <oerheks> joule-linux  4.4.0-1000.0+joule21-8  canonical  -      linux kernel for Intel Joule
[20:18] <oerheks> joule        16.04-0.8+3             canonical  -      Joule system package
[20:18] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/884346/creating-a-custom-ubuntu-core-image-for-intel-joule
[20:20] <MarkB2> pavlos:  +10 Internetz to you.  I ONCE found that link... and haven't been able to find it again!!  DANKE!
[20:21] <MarkB2> oerheks: I've found both snap and apparmor on the machine.  They must have come along for the ride with updates.  Gah.  Must everything be wrapped up like this?
[20:22] <MarkB2> And snappyLand ... I have YET to take the source code for a program, compile it, and turn it into a snap.
[20:25] <MarkB2> pavlos: oops.  I misread the URL.  I know the Intel communities site.  (1) they don't support Ubuntu any more and (2) I've found so many problems that my head hurts.
[20:25] <MarkB2> The Joule platform was released a little too early for the software.
[20:26] <oerheks> lots of issues were solved with a bios update, i read too
[20:26] <Kaixxl> bios updates feels like lotto at times
[20:27] <oerheks> and there are more pi users i guess, so more documentation available
[20:28] <MarkB2> Those BIOS updates are the worst.  Burning a new BIOS requires a USB A to Type C cable, special software that's only runs well on a WinTel box.
[20:28] <pavlos> MarkB2: np, I sent it hoping it would be good ref ... I use pi3
[20:29] <MarkB2> I *LIKE* the Pi3's.  Had one job where I had to do the "build a reinstallable system" thing.
[20:29] <MarkB2> Pi3's are, compared to the Joule, Very Well Documented.
[20:31] <MarkB2> The Joule BIOS has a ..special.. bug built-in: There is NO way to reset BIOS parameters to the original install state.
[20:31] <MarkB2> It requires reflashing the BIOS.
[20:31] <|\n> could you please name the bios chip?
[20:32] <MarkB2> In the Joule?  It's built-into the compute module.. and Intel has never released a schematic of the compute module.
[20:32] <AlexPortable> How do I make my external disk actually stay spinned down after removing it in 'Computer' ? I click on 'safely remove', then it'll spin down for 2 seconds, and then spin up again and get mounted again
[20:34] <MarkB2> And if anyone wants to see an Intel support person backpedal faster than the speed of typing:  https://communities.intel.com/thread/113376
[20:34] <MarkB2> Messages #2, #3, and #4 in that thread are ..illuminating.
[20:36] <MarkB2> And can someone clue me in as to what "Plymouth" is in Ubuntu-Land?
[20:36] <MarkB2> Please?
[20:36] <TheOneMenzie> MarkB2: The splash screen.
[20:36] <MarkB2> You mean that Really Pretty Purple thing with all the moving symbols??
[20:38] <MarkB2> I saw that purple thing ONCE after install.  It's taking up twelve seconds of time during boot.  How can I turn it OFF??
[20:38] <|\n> nice thread!
[20:38] <TheOneMenzie> MarkB2: Remove the Plymouth package and update your initial ramdisk.
[20:38] <MarkB2> |\n: Brought to you by the DROIDS at Intel.
[20:39] <airking> okay, panicing a bit here.  i installed new case fans and now my rig wont post
[20:39] <MarkB2> TheOneMenzie:  You mean   sudo apt-get remove plymouth   followed by a purge is all I need??
[20:39] <airking> i get to the ASrock screen where I can do things like press f11 for the bios, but it doesnt accept keypresses
[20:39] <|\n> MarkB2, i'm not kind of intel consumer myself, but the fact that it take a month to show something to "the group" looks familiar to me, even though wasn't related to ubuntu or intel heh
[20:39] <airking> and never leaves that screen
[20:40] <TheOneMenzie> MarkB2: Pretty much, but don't forget to run update-initramfs
[20:40] <MarkB2> |\n: MRAA is a "standard" package for getting at the GPIO, PWM, and UART interfaces.  But Intel quality control is starting to show wear and tear (a LOT) on this platform.
[20:41] <MarkB2> I mean, the guy ADMITS it works nice ONCE... but not TWICE!!
[20:41] <MarkB2> TheOneMenzie: I've written that down and am gonna set it up.
[20:41] <MarkB2> Trimming THAT off the startup will be a *PLUS*.
[20:41] <pavlos> airking: disconnect fans, does it post? connect one fan, does it post? and so on ...
[20:42] <TheOneMenzie> MarkB2: One more thing: Get rid of "splash" in /etc/default/grub 's GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line, and then do [ sudo update-grub ]
[20:43] <codecutter> do i need to reload anything after editing /etc/ssh/ssh_config?
[20:43] <TheOneMenzie> codecutter: [ sudo service sshd restart ] would be a good idea if you don't wanna reboot
[20:44] <phunyguy> hi
[20:44] <pavlos> codecutter: ssh_config is the client component so I dont see the point of bouncing sshd ...
[20:44] <phunyguy> whoops, wrong chan  ☺
[20:46] <MarkB2> TheOneMenzie: You won't believe this.. but removing plymouth will remove all of X-Windows!
[20:47] <TheOneMenzie> Can you pastebin the output?
[20:47] <MarkB2> The result of the apt-get remove ?
[20:47] <TheOneMenzie> Yeah, but hit ^C before accepting the remove
[20:48] <airking> pavlos: I pulled CMOS and waited then reinstall CMOS, now it works.
[20:48] <airking> Could the CMOS battery be going?
[20:48] <airking> rig is approaching 3 years old
[20:48] <MarkB2> Oh, I type 'N' at the "want to proceed" question.. but I need to get the Joule up on chat.freenode.net to do it.
[20:48] <TheOneMenzie> MarkB2 : Pressing "N" is technically cleaner
[20:48] <MarkB2> Hm.  Maybe webchat.freenode.net will work?
[20:49] <TheOneMenzie> What are you trying to do?
[20:49] <TheOneMenzie> You can use a program like pastebinit to generate a link and then type the link in here
[20:53] <MarkB2> Have to log out of here to use the Joule...be right back.
[20:59] <MarkB2> TheOneMenzie: NickServ is getting particular on how I log in...
[20:59] <MarkB2> Should I copy/paste the result? Or pastebin it?
[21:00] <TheOneMenzie> Pastebin
[21:00] <MarkB2> Done.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24884126/
[21:01] <TheOneMenzie> Seems to be tied to lightdm somehow
[21:01] <|\n> for a looong time already
[21:01] <MarkB2> It looks like removing plymouth would cripple ubuntu on this platform.
[21:01] <TheOneMenzie> Probably due to the .service
[21:02] <TheOneMenzie> MarkB2: Try the other suggestion I gave.
[21:02] <MarkB2> Removing it from the /etc/default/grub ?
[21:02] <mentazoon> hey
[21:03] <mentazoon> does ubuntu mean something african?
[21:03] <mentazoon> i mean related to black people?
[21:03] <mentazoon> sounds black idd
[21:03] <mentazoon> or let's say, DARK
[21:04] <pavlos> mentazoon: https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu
[21:04] <TheOneMenzie> mentazoon: It is a Zulu word... but you are warned that racism is forbidden
[21:04] <MarkB2> TheOneMenzie: If "quiet" is removed, do I get the nice noisy startup racket?
[21:04] <mentazoon> oh nice
[21:04] <TheOneMenzie> MarkB2: yep
[21:05] <mentazoon> well i am reading this book https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Linux_for_Niggers
[21:05] <mentazoon> and learned a lot
[21:05] <MarkB2> TheOneMenzie: I have DREAMED of getting THAT back.  No kidding.  Truly.  I WANT to see what's going on..
[21:05] <mentazoon> thanks guys
[21:05] <MarkB2> Updating now.
[21:05] <TheOneMenzie> !ops | mentazoon (racism)
[21:05] <mentazoon> !ops TheOneMenzie (racism)
[21:05] <MarkB2> Restarting...
[21:06] <mentazoon> TheOneMenzie, what, you hate black people or something?
[21:06] <|\n> i did something bad to plymouth, it sopped doing anything, but i still can bring up what exactly
[21:06] <phunyguy> hi
[21:07] <mentazoon> plymouth was written by the white to discriminate black
[21:08] <pavlos> airking: cmos battery life 3-5 yr, maybe replace it
[21:09] <mentazoon> phunyguy, Hello
[21:09] <mentazoon> was it you who just banned me?
[21:09] <mentazoon> i'd like to appeal
[21:11] <snkcld> im on ubuntu 17.04, using the vanilla upstream kernel. i dont even _have_ the powersave governor included in my build, not even as a module. but sometimes when i boot, powersave is the default governor. how exactly is that? lol
[21:11] <sebsebseb> memorynoise: one of the ops and you can appeal in #ubuntu-ops
[21:11] <sebsebseb> for mentazoon
[21:11] <phunyguy> mentazoon: appeals are in #ubuntu-ops
[21:12] <snkcld> wow nevermind, i just realized that with pstate, the cpufreq governors arent related.. my bad
[21:16] <MarkB2> Getting rid of the "splash" removed that PURPLE screen at the start.  Now I'm seeing the errors that might be causing this mess.
[21:16] <MarkB2> Is there a way to record all those startup messages somewhere?
[21:16] <tgm4883> MarkB2: look at dmesg
[21:18] <MarkB2> Here's one "cute" error message:  6.920316] intel-ipu4 0000:00:03.0: Direct firmware load for ipu4_cpd_b0.bin failed with error -2
[21:19] <MarkB2> Followed by:     6.920328] intel-ipu4 0000:00:03.0: Requesting signed firmware failed
[21:22] <MarkB2> Another boot time-eater is systemd-rfkill.service
[21:22] <pavlos> MarkB2: dmesg -T | pastebinit should give you a link
[21:24] <MarkB2> Hmm... that many-second plymouth seems to be gone.Okay, let me do  a systemd-analyze blame and
[21:24] <MarkB2> ... sorry.. dmesg -T to pastebinit coming up.
[21:24] <xblc> sorry phunyguy
[21:24] <xblc> i am not going to talk about niggers
[21:25] <MarkB2> Hm.  I don't have "pastebinit"... back to using Chromium and copy/paste.
[21:26] <TheOneMenzie> [ sudo apt install pastebinit ]
[21:27] <MarkB2> That's next.  Thank you.  Here's the output of dmesg for this boot.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24884296/
[21:28] <MarkB2> Apologies... it's a big paste.
[21:30] <MarkB2> I wonder if the startup stuff is output to the debug port.... (goes looking for a microUSB to A cable..
[21:47] <gwillem> lol
[21:47] <gwillem> these racists
[21:47] <gwillem> are censoring me
[21:50] <codecutter> is there redis package available, this article seems to suggest building it from source https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-redis-on-ubuntu-16-04
[21:54] <oerheks> codecutter, yes, redis server is not in our repos
[21:54] <codecutter> well, thats a shame
[21:54] <codecutter> perhaps you should add it?
[21:54] <oerheks> ow, i am wrong, https://launchpad.net/redis
[21:55] <codecutter> how do i install it?
[21:55] <pavlos> codecutter: https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-configure-and-use-redis-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[21:56] <Bashing-om> codecutter: apt list php-redis >> php-redis/xenial 2.2.7-389-g2887ad1+2.2.7-1 amd64 .
[21:56] <oerheks> it is not the latest, but got all security fixes
[21:57] <sigyyn> hey
[21:58] <sigyyn> i'd like to talk about how black ubuntu is
[21:58] <sigyyn> so a single nigger can use ubuntu righ
[22:01] <codecutter> pavlos: thx
[22:02] <codecutter> Bashing-om: i don't know what that was but no thx
[22:07] <John[Lisbeth]> I am building an application for ubuntu and I am wondering where in the filesystem I should put the files for my program
[22:10] <pavlos> John[Lisbeth]: to test, ~/bin, to made it production /usr/local/bin
[22:13] <John[Lisbeth]> I am not exactly looking to put it in my bin folder because I will be mutating this folder alot and so I am looking to put these executbales in their own folder
[22:13] <John[Lisbeth]> basically something like /usr/lib
[22:13] <John[Lisbeth]> or maybe /usr/lib is the correct place
[22:13] <blkadder> John[Lisbeth], It's generally under /usr/local or /opt
[22:14] <blkadder>  /usr/lib wouldn't be the right place for executables AFAIK...
[22:15] <John[Lisbeth]> it would be like /usr/lib/mycustomfolder or /usr/opt/mycustomfolder
[22:15] <John[Lisbeth]> basically when you apt-get install something it installs a series of files for that package to a folder, and I am curious where people put their files for their packages
[22:16] <blkadder> Well, exec files would go in /usr/local/bin, libraries in /usr/local/lib, config in /usr/local/etc and so forth.
[22:17] <John[Lisbeth]> is it appropriate for me to make a package that on another user's computer makes a new file in /usr/local/lib/mynewfolder?
[22:19] <blkadder> If you had library files that you needed to place, you could.
[22:20] <John[Lisbeth]> thank you for the help
[22:21] <codecutter> is there a go to place to search for a package? I'm looking for solr
[22:26] <glitsj16> codecutter: apt-cache policy *solr* is one option, search via https://packages.ubuntu.com is another
[22:28] <codecutter> there is a few, which one do i need?
[22:29] <glitsj16> codecutter: they both offer the same info, and both are official repo interfaces, for PPA's you can go to launchpad.net
[22:30] <codecutter> all these are old
[22:30] <codecutter> i need solr v 6
[22:31] <glitsj16> codecutter: in that case I'd look for a PPA first and save building from source as another option
[22:32] <codecutter> i can't seem to find it, perhaps i missed something can take a look?
[22:34] <glitsj16> codecutter: that's always possible when you need the latest version of a package? i'm not familiar with solr to give yoy anything useful on that. Have you looked at upstream website, git repo or something similar, they might have a PPA of their own
[22:35] <codecutter> i'm not familiar with any of these sites
[22:36] <codecutter> i'll build it from source
[22:37] <glitsj16> codecutter: seems to be your best option, you can always use checkinstall (a package you'll need to install) if you want to turn the build into a .deb that integrates nicely with apt
[22:51] <FManTropyx> my swap usage is still 65% after closing down everything except qBitTorrent
[22:51] <alex-therapy> I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu for unrelated reasons on my daily driver soon. Is there a good reason as to switch to 17.10 already, due to the new changes?
[22:51] <sebsebseb> alex-therapy: as a dialy driver 17.10 is to early really
[22:51] <sebsebseb> alex-therapy: since its not even had a alpha 1 yet
[22:51] <sebsebseb> its just dialy builds for now
[22:52] <sebsebseb> and even alpha 1 and even 2 would be early as daily driver
[22:52] <tgm4883> Daily driver time is when it's released
[22:52] <tgm4883> eg. octobor
[22:52] <sebsebseb> or a bit before for some people, but for most final release yes
[22:52] <tgm4883> sebsebseb: there is zero reason to recommend installing it early
[22:52] <alex-therapy> sebsebseb: would you say that it would be unstable to the point where I could lose my work if I use it?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> alex-therapy: you can get used to GNOME in Ubuntu GNOME in 17.04 in the mean time, ( or even smoe other distros Fedora etc )
[22:53] <sebsebseb> alex-therapy: yes to unstable to rely on
[22:53] <tgm4883> alex-therapy: if you have to ask that question, then 17.10 is not for you
[22:53] <sebsebseb> for now for daily use
[22:53] <sebsebseb> even though Ubuntu has had so many releases etc
[22:53] <alex-therapy> is the transition from 17.04 to 17.10 going to be smooth enough as to not have to make a clean reinstall in October?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> and gone through these development release cycles so many times
[22:53] <alex-therapy> tgm4883: sure
[22:53] <sebsebseb> and even though they decided not to release an Ubuntu untill alpha 2 for that reason to, but community flavours get alha 1
[22:53] <sebsebseb> alex-therapy: yes put 17.04 on, and you can upgrade to 17.10
[22:53] <sebsebseb> and upgrade should go fine
[22:55] <sebsebseb> tgm4883: I disagree with that, some of us are more technical when it comes to Ubuntu and Linuxi n general, so have reasons to run it early, but for everyone else, wait untill final yes
[22:55] <tgm4883> sebsebseb: What are you disagreeing with?
[22:55] <sebsebseb> tgm4883:  your comment,  zero reason comment
[22:56] <tgm4883> sebsebseb: check the channel you are in and tell me why you would "recommend" anyone install 17.10 early
[22:56] <alex-therapy> thanks everybody that answers my 17.10 concerns, however I wish to ask about 17.04 as well. I'm already used to GNOME since I'm a concurrent Fedora user, but I also like Unity's scaling much better as well as handling of some effects. Should I stick to Unity on 17.04 or try to manually force GNOME on it since it is the future for Ubuntu?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> tgm4883: developers, bug testers,  expereinced running development releases early people etc,  those are the kind that should do it early, but everyone else so this alex-therapy  for example, well no
[22:57] <sebsebseb> tgm4883: qa as well for early
[22:57] <tgm4883> sebsebseb: again, you wouldn't be recommending it to people in this channel. Heck, you probably wouldn't need to recommend it to those people you mentioned either, since they know full well what they are doing
[22:58] <alex-therapy> I'm a dev too you guys, a student at UC berkeley. Just tired of wasting time with messing around with distros and want apple-esque experience with the freedoms of FOSS
[22:58] <tgm4883> alex-therapy: there will be no reason to force it to gnome. The upgrade to 17.10 will install gnome for you or you can install 17.04 gnome now
[22:58] <sebsebseb> tgm4883:  my point is some people have valid reasosns to put it on early, some of which do come to this channel by the way,  but everyone else no they don't really so should stay to stable,
[22:58] <glitsj16> alex-therapy: why not install both unity & GNOME and compare
[22:59] <sebsebseb> alex-therapy: 17.04 gets Unity 7 by default
[22:59] <sebsebseb> alex-therapy: and also a updated Unity 8 previewer for desktop, which actsaully is quite useable really, depending on what programs are used with it
[22:59] <Hankbonk> Can one ask questions on Damn Small Linux here ?
[22:59] <alex-therapy> sound advice. Last main question: does 17.04 use Ubuntu software center of GNOME software for software distribution?
[22:59] <tgm4883> Hankbonk: no
[22:59] <sebsebseb> alex-therapy: however thats been dropped, won't  get Unity 8 like that in future releaes, just like Unity 7 won't be there by default anymore either
[23:00] <Hankbonk> ok, bye
[23:00] <alex-therapy> sebsebseb: any point to the unity 8 previewer if it is going to be dropped, come 17.10?
[23:00] <alex-therapy> sebsebseb: nvm
[23:01] <alex-therapy> thanks everybody for the advice, I'm off to work.
[23:01]  * sebsebseb is actually planning on doing this with this lap top, but not yet :d.  Windows 10,   Ubuntu 16.10, Ubuntu 17.04,  Ubuntu 17.10 ( that one will get upgraded to 18.04), and Mageia 6.  it's currently.  Windows 10 upgraded from 8.1, and Ubuntu 17.04 upgraded from 16.10, and Mageia 5,  but hey I have my reasons for doing that kind of set up :d
[23:02] <sebsebseb> alex-therapy: the unity 8 previewe is fun
[23:02] <sebsebseb> intereting
[23:02] <sebsebseb> it just doens't work as well as the Unity 8 on the phone or tablet, those have also been dropped, but theres a community fork keeping things going ubports :)
[23:02] <sebsebseb> oh just left oh well
[23:09] <beefjoe> I'm getting this in terminal on apt-get update
[23:09] <beefjoe> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[23:10] <Ichimusai> beefjoe: Is it already running in another window/terminal?
[23:10] <beefjoe> no, and I just logged out and tried again..
[23:11] <genii> Usually means automatic updates are running
[23:11] <beefjoe> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:12] <Ichimusai> beefjoe: It may be running in the background. If you are certain it is not, then you may remove the lock file /var/lib/lists/lock and try again. But only when sure.
[23:12] <beefjoe> how to check if it's running in the background ?
[23:13] <Ichimusai> ps aux | grep synaptic
[23:13] <Ichimusai> ps aux | grep apt
[23:13] <Ichimusai> If its running wait for it to complete
[23:13] <Ichimusai> if it is stuck give it some time and send kill signal to the process
[23:15] <beefjoe> All good now, thanks :)
[23:15] <beefjoe> synpatic was running for some reason..
[23:15] <Ichimusai> It does that regularly unless you tell it not to update your system
[23:29] <codecutter> i can't connect to http://MY_IP:8983/solr/, this maybe because of the firewall
[23:29] <codecutter> if so how do i enable it?
[23:30] <blkadder> codecutter, Are you sure the service is up?
[23:30] <blkadder> And listening on that port?
[23:30] <codecutter> status shows its up
[23:30] <blkadder> netstat -a | grep 883
[23:30] <blkadder> oops
[23:31] <blkadder> netstat -a | grep 8983
[23:31] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/xB70EQR7
[23:31] <codecutter> tcp6       0      0 [::]:8983               [::]:*                  LISTEN
[23:32] <blkadder> That IPv6
[23:32] <blkadder> not ipv4
[23:32] <blkadder> Are you attempting to access it via IPv6 addresses?
[23:33] <codecutter> no
[23:33] <blkadder> Well, that's a problem.
[23:33] <codecutter> how do i fix it?
[23:33] <blkadder> Make Solr listen on the IPv4 interface.
[23:40] <codecutter> I think I need to do tje following? https://www.webfoobar.com/node/59
[23:49] <blkadder> codecutter More likely you need to tell java to prefer IPv4
[23:49] <codecutter> java or solr?
[23:49] <blkadder> I am not sure how you installed solr, what webserver you are using, etc. so YMMV: https://guides.wp-bullet.com/install-solr-ubuntu-14-04-for-faster-wordpress-search/
[23:50] <codecutter> this is how i did it https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-install-and-configure-solr-on-ubuntu-1604/
[23:50] <codecutter> nginx
[23:52] <blkadder> codecutter, Well technically java but within the context of solr. :-)
[23:52] <ppete> what is alien?
[23:53] <oerheks> alien is a RPM tool
[23:53] <oerheks> !info alien
[23:53] <ppete> ty...everyone
[23:54] <codecutter> tcp        0      0 *:8983                  *:*                     LISTEN
[23:54] <ppete> !info alien
[23:55] <blkadder> codecutter, Progress.
[23:56] <blkadder> Can you access the admin page now?