[03:33] <mup> PR operator#998 opened: Raise error in wait_output if stdout is already being consumed <Created by weiiwang01> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/998>
[04:09] <mup> PR operator#998 closed: Raise error in wait_output if stdout is already being consumed <Created by weiiwang01> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/998>


[00:50] <FusionX> I don't know what happened but I can no longer boot into ubuntu and booting into recovery console says "whiptail command not found" and now most of the commands don't work (like sudo).
[00:50] <FusionX> using normal boot, the screen goes blank
[00:53] <FusionX> Is it possible to repair or restore xubuntu as in Windows (follow-up to previous question)?
[00:54] <knome> what were you trying to do?
[00:56] <FusionX> I don't know. After closing the laptop's lid, it went to suspended mode and after that it showed up some weird (looking, never seen before in previous versions) xscreensaver log-in dialog
[00:56] <FusionX> and after that things started behaving oddly
[00:56] <FusionX> text in some of the sites that were open vanished
[00:56] <FusionX> during shutdown, pop-up dialogs had weird fonts
[00:56] <FusionX> and it didn't even shutdown itself properly
[00:57] <FusionX> I did alt+f2 and tried "sudo shutdown -r now" and it said sudo command is not recognized
[00:57] <FusionX> (while still in bash)
[00:57] <knome> did you hard boot?
[00:57] <FusionX> yup
[00:58] <FusionX> should I just reinstall, or can I recover it?
[00:59] <knome> i'm not sure. there's no one easy way to recover
[00:59] <knome> reinstalling is probably easier, but it would be nice to know why the system went to that state
[00:59] <FusionX> yeah
[01:00] <FusionX> I was installing a lot of softwares, but none that could interfere with the system. it went weird particularly after waking up from suspended state
[01:06] <knome> i suppose you could google "ubuntu" and your pc model
[01:07] <knome> err, and maybe "suspend" :)
[01:17] <xubuntuTHEBEST> hello im new in linux and after a day of trying diferent distros on my laptop (debian<-didbt worked :/, ubuntu,kubuntu and a few more) i can say that xubuntu was the best option!
[01:25] <vuarabei> who play alien arena
[12:36] <broglin> gdm has suddenly stopped showing the login screen and I am presented with a broken xfce4 desktop (no window manager). how can i fix that? I'm on natty
[12:37] <TheSheep> "suddenly"?
[12:37] <TheSheep> what did you do just before that happened?
[12:38] <broglin> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:38] <broglin> but i think that only changed the display driver :S
[12:39] <TheSheep> broglin: what driver exactly?
[12:40] <broglin> TheSheep: i don't remember. something about intel chipset
[12:40] <broglin> oddly, when i run DISPLAY=:0.0 xfwm4, the login screen appears. but when i log in, the window manager exits and things are broken again
[12:42] <broglin> TheSheep: ok, it was xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386
[12:45] <broglin> are there alternatives to gdm that I could try?
[14:23] <chaudhry> hello guys i have two audio chips in my pc one built in(dont work) and one is riptide and i have set it up but still cant hear any sound
[14:24] <chaudhry> i have 2 options for every thing alsa and pulse audio mixer
[14:30] <tkennedy> is it possible to auto resize windows in Xubuntu 11.10 like they do with Unity?
[15:32] <ragnarok> The kmess package in ubuntu is buggy. It has a disconnection bug which was fixed in a recent version of Kmess. Please update it.
[15:33] <Myrtti> have you filed a needs-packaging bug?
[15:33] <Myrtti> also, crossposting isn't polite
[15:34] <ragnarok> no
[15:34] <ragnarok> i have no account
[15:34] <ragnarok> i just inform you
[15:34] <Myrtti> well informing it here will do squat
[15:34] <ragnarok> this is an old bug
[15:35] <Pici> Okay? Our channels aren't a replacement for logging bugs. Its very quick to create a launchpad account to log the necessary information.
[15:36] <ragnarok> i am lazy
[15:36] <ragnarok> i will just use amsn
[15:36] <ragnarok> who cares
[15:36] <ragnarok> i never liked ubuntu
[15:37] <Myrtti> eh
[15:38] <Myrtti> you know what, why would I raise a finger for something that I don't even know what it's used for. it doesn't come preinstalled in either Ubuntu or Xubuntu. if you want it fixed, in the words of all mighty Wikipedia, file the necessary bugs yourself.
[15:38] <ragnarok> nah
[15:38] <ragnarok> archlinux ftw
[15:40] <Pici> How rude.
[15:41] <genii-around> Pici: I already told them in #k to ubuntu-bug kmess
[15:42] <Pici> genii-around: I saw :)
[17:46] <phunyguy_work> can anyone tell me how to specify MORE DHCP options for Qemu/libvirt?  I need to specify DNS search suffix for guests.  Thanks
[18:33] <chaudhry> hello i have 2 audio chips and i cant hear any sound on any player or in any service.my mobo integrated dont works but riptide card do works fine on ubuntu but not xubuntu :(
[18:33] <chaudhry> any body
[18:34] <baizon> check your audio settings
[18:34] <chaudhry> checked it there were two mixers alsa and pulse audio tried both but of no use.
[18:35] <baizon> are all audio channels enabled?
[18:35] <baizon> mute is off?
[18:35] <chaudhry> yes
[18:38] <chaudhry> a guy had same prob he said actually xubuntu detects both and uses both at same time something like that
[18:38] <chaudhry> but he forgot solution
[18:39] <Sysi> chaudhry: install pacucontrol
[18:39] <Sysi> *pavucontrol
[18:40] <akovia> i am looking for a way to make a shortcut to switch my audio output device under sound preferences but not sure where to start
[18:40] <hobgoblin> chaudhry: I've had to turn off the integrated in BIOS in the past - but I had no need for both cards
[18:40] <chaudhry> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/176091
[18:40] <chaudhry> heres the link for guy who had same prob
[18:41] <akovia> tyvm, checking it out
[18:41] <chaudhry> i also dont need both cards cox one dont work
[18:42] <chaudhry> sysi i installed it before but what now?
[18:42] <Sysi> set correct sound card with it
[18:42] <chaudhry> how to open it?i mean where is its menu?
[18:42] <akovia> ok, not exactly what i need. I'm using both cards in my system. one is for digital out for my home theater, the other the internal SC for headphones
[18:43] <Sysi> "pulseaudio settings"
[18:44] <akovia> i do it manually now by just selecting the appropriate SC output under sound preferences and just want to find the command line alternative for the same action
[18:44] <Sysi> akovia: sound preferences being xfce4-mixer or pavucontrol?
[18:45] <chaudhry> sysi i am sorry i am newbie cant find it still i tried emulator but it said too many arguments
[18:45] <akovia> hmm
[18:46] <akovia> i think both are present on my taskbar but not sure how to distinguish
[18:46] <Sysi> chaudhry: menu -> sound&video, shouldn't be that much items
[18:47] <akovia> i have 2 speaker icons on my taskbar, the one i use gives the sound preferences or mute when i r-click
[18:48] <Sysi> do you switch device from drop-down menu?
[18:48] <akovia> the other has mixer, and some xfce panel options so i'm guessing that is the xfce-mixer one
[18:48] <akovia> i click the sound prefernces and there is a tabbed interface with...
[18:49] <akovia> snd fx, input, output, hdw, applications
[18:49] <akovia> i go to output and select the one i want
[18:49] <chaudhry> thanks sysi i got it configured.now should i uninstall alsa mixer?
[18:49] <Sysi> sounds like pavucontrol
[18:50] <akovia> cool
[18:50] <akovia> that's a start
[18:50] <akovia> no man page =/
[18:51] <Sysi> chaudhry: you can set panel applet to launch pavucontrol if you want, you can't remove alsa if you want any sound and you don't need/should remove xfce4-mixer
[18:51] <Sysi> akovia: "man pulseaudio"
[18:52] <chaudhry> kindly tell me how to set panel applet to launch pavucontrol
[18:53] <Sysi> if you have sound applet in panel, you can choose what to launch in it's preferences
[18:55] <akovia> ok, i scanned the man page but nothing is standing out as to how to send a command to switch the output device. If you have an idea that would be much appreciated but I don't mind getting help from the pulseaudio ppl if not
[18:57] <chaudhry> thanks man.....its why i am in love with linux.God bless you all
[18:57] <Sysi> akovia: yeah, I don't really know (it's probably done with pacmd)
[18:58] <akovia> i think i found what i needed now on the ubuntu forums. thanks so much for getting me in the right direction!
[19:00] <phunyguy_work> Can anyone tell me where in libvirt you would set the dns suffix for guest VMs?
[19:32] <sidney> On my system i have a drive to store cd's and video what fs is good
[19:32] <sidney> it NTFS @ present but no need to share with Ms
[19:33] <Sysi> shouldn't be problems with NTFS, if you want to be really linux, ext4
[19:35] <sidney> thanks
[19:36] <phunyguy_work> I say FAT16
[19:36] <phunyguy_work> ok sorry, I'm done trolling.
[19:37] <Sysi> I wish exfat worked on linux
[19:40] <CiPi> Sysi, why? Xubuntu sees all the partitions, regardless of filesystem. :)
[19:41] <CiPi> But is best to use Ext4 for the Linux partition.
[19:41] <CiPi> And is bettor to use an Ext4 separate partition, don`t use it side by side windows in the same partition.
[19:41] <genii-around> Sysi: https://launchpad.net/~relan/+archive/exfat
[19:42] <TheSheep> CiPi: why not?
[19:42] <CiPi> TheSheep, I see is working a bit better in ext4. i don`t know why.
[19:42] <TheSheep> CiPi: what do you mean by better exactly?
[19:43] <CiPi> Speed is one.
[19:43] <Sysi> genii-around: oh cool
[19:43] <TheSheep> CiPi: what's the difference in your measurments?
[19:44] <Sysi> ntfs-3g shouldn't be very slow but ext4 is faster, though that doesn't matter so much on data storage
[19:45] <CiPi> I didn`t make tests on SSD, now i have a SSD, on this one I don`t see the difference, but on an HDD was ext4 with a fiew MB better.
[19:45] <TheSheep> CiPi: MB/s? on what operations? copying? large or small files?
[19:46]  * TheSheep is curious on how one would compare that
[19:46] <Sysi> TheSheep: probably everything, I guess it's most visible with big files in basic usage
[19:46] <CiPi> Large and small files. And the OS was slow on NTFS, on ext4 was quicker.
[19:47] <Sysi> how do you install linux on ntfs, wubi?
[19:47] <CiPi> On stability I didn`t see a difference.
[19:47] <CiPi> But on speed it is.
[19:47] <Sysi> wubi has some own overhead that is't actually because of ntfs
[19:50] <CiPi> Anyway, I`m using a separate partition with dual boot. The Linux partition is Ext4 and Win is NTFS.
[19:50] <Sysi> and he asked about data storage partition
[19:51] <CiPi> Data storage I`m using NTFS because of windows.
[19:51] <CiPi> Windows dozn`t recognize ext4, so...
[19:51] <TheSheep> CiPi: there are drivers for windows that let it read and even write ext filesystems
[19:52] <TheSheep> CiPi: not sure if they support the ext4 extensions
[19:52] <pteague_work> is there a way to figure out what i386 packages i have installed? i'm getting sick of architecture dependency issues i can't seem to solve
[19:52] <CiPi> Yes, but is no need to put all the things inside. With Xfce i`m using more Linux than Windows.
[19:52] <prouter> Hi, i wonder can anyone help?  I installed xubuntu but the fonts are HUGE - I'm sure there's an easy fix?
[19:55] <CiPi> prouter, Settings/settings manager/apparences/fonts
[19:57] <prouter> CiPi: I only have settings/settings editor - no settings manager?
[19:57] <prouter> and there's no appearance/fonts in settings editor :S
[19:57] <CiPi> You using Xubuntu or what?
[19:57] <CiPi> You don`t have apparence ?
[19:58] <prouter> Yes, I installed xubuntu-desktop from unity
[19:58] <prouter> no appearance
[19:58] <CiPi> Do here on irc.
[19:58] <CiPi> /exec -o xfce4-appearance-settings
[19:58] <prouter> hold, wait found appearance
[19:59] <prouter> yes, that's it fixed Cipi thanks
[19:59] <CiPi> Ur welcome.
[20:04] <CiPi> pteague_work, I don`t get what you want to say.
[20:04] <CiPi> I think is this...
[20:05] <CiPi> Open terminal and writhe - dpkg --get-selections
[20:05] <CiPi> dpkg --get-selections
[20:05] <CiPi> Whis you want to see, or ?
[20:06] <CiPi> This...
[20:07] <pteague_work> CiPi, thanks, that seems to be it... i think these were all added due to the *-restricted-extras wanting to install 32bit packages for adobe flash when the 64bit is already available >.<
[20:08] <CiPi> Nice.
[20:08] <CiPi> To see somthing specific try:
[20:09] <CiPi> dpkg --get-selections | grep core
[20:09] <CiPi> Or | grep what you want.
[20:10] <CiPi> dpkg --get-selections | grep flash
[20:10] <CiPi> :)
[20:11] <pteague_work> just did `apt-get purge $( dpkg --get-selections | /bin/grep i386 | awk -F' ' '{print $1}' )`
[20:11] <CiPi> I didn`t know that trick. :))
[20:12] <pteague_work> i'm too lazy to cut & paste sometimes ;o)
[20:16] <CiPi> Nu pot fara ala.
[20:16] <CiPi> :Sorry.
[20:25] <xubuntu797> Hello.
[20:25] <xubuntu797> Can anyone here answer a question aobut Xubuntu for me?
[20:26] <Sysi> you will never know if you don't ask
[20:31] <anra> SaaMmY: you scared him :-)
[20:31] <anra> oops
[20:31] <anra> I meant Sysi
[20:31] <SaaMmY> anra ?
[20:31] <anra> sorry, I meant to to talk to Sysi, nevermind
[20:32] <SaaMmY> k
[20:32] <Sysi> no it was him!
[20:32] <Sysi> :P
[22:17] <akovia> i made a simple script to switch between pulseaudio output devices and it seems to work as it switches the radio buttons in the gui, but the actual audio doesn't switch without using the gui implicitly.
[22:17] <akovia> here is the cmd: pacmd set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1e.2.analog-stereo
[22:19] <akovia> just wondering if there is a difference in the way the gui issues the command


[00:10] <Flannel> Seeker`: Only in Europe.  Now that works over, us Americans without a social life will work.
[00:12] <Seeker`> was just frustrating sitting there not being able to do anything
[00:14] <Flannel> I know the feeling
[00:16] <Seeker`> where are you an op?
[00:20] <Flannel> just #u, apparently putting ops in other places takes forever to go through whatever bureaucracy there is.  Since its been at least a few months since other places were discussed, etc.
[00:21] <Seeker`> fair enough
[00:21]  * Amaranth is glad he got in before the bureaucracy
[00:21] <Seeker`> what bureaucracy is there?
[00:21] <Flannel> I should probably poke around and see what's up with that.  Since... yeah, its rediculous/.
[00:22] <Flannel> Seeker`: No idea.  But apparently there's tons if it takes multiple months for approval of an operator for additional channels.
[00:23] <Pricey> Flannel: did you submit the form gpg signed to the council address along with 3 cheers?
[00:23] <Seeker`> Flannel: I'm not even an op in #u, so I wouldn't know about additional channels :P
[00:26] <Flannel> Pricey: No.  The person who I was talking to was just going to take care of whatever magical process had to be gone through.  Didn't say anything about that.
[00:27] <Seeker`> do you have to have a form signed by 3 mythical beings, including the yeti and the loch ness monster to be an op?
[00:28] <Flannel> Seeker`: I'm still working on Nessy, the others aren't an issue.
[00:29] <Pricey> Flannel: ah ok, we'll wait for that person then.
[00:30]  * Seeker` has the tooth fairy and nessy
[00:31] <Seeker`> the yeti doesn't like me :(
[00:57] <bazhang> 'yet' ....i
[00:57] <Seeker`> ...?
[00:58] <bazhang> doesnt like you yet.....i
[00:58] <Seeker`> ...
[00:58] <Seeker`> ...
[00:58] <bazhang> ugh
[00:58] <Seeker`> ...
[00:58] <Seeker`> that "joke" should be taken out and shot
[00:59] <Seeker`> :P
[01:01] <bazhang> ah thefeds to greet me in the a.m.
[01:19] <bazhang> he has more than enough warning to stop trolling.
[01:20] <Flannel> Howdy wgrant, How can we help you today?
[01:21] <wgrant> Flannel: I was going to ask somebody about a bot, but I found the information I needed elsewhere.
[01:22] <wgrant> I suppose I should leave.
[01:35] <elky> maaan, this lag is killing me
[01:35] <evilGary> lag sucks
[01:35] <elky> this is somewhere between me and linode or linode and freenode
[01:36] <elky> i'm connected to kubrick -- does it have issues the past few weeks or something?
[01:36] <Nafallo> or both
[01:37] <elky> Nafallo, both maintain a 178-182ms ping time for the connections.
[01:37] <elky> even in the middle of the multi-minute lag sessions
[01:37] <Nafallo> /☹\
[01:39] <elky> that for ping time between australia and the US is *good*
[01:39] <evilGary> it's a lot of ocean the inters have to web
[01:40] <elky> yeah
[01:40] <elky> where is kubrick? the US? i might have to reconfig bip to use a better link
[01:40] <Flannel> I think so...
[01:41] <Flannel> yeah, LA
[01:41] <Flannel> that is, LA in CA
[01:43] <elky> anyway, i have to go shoe and chair shopping. if thefeds says anything else stupid, add a +b to the /remove
[01:44] <bazhang> :/
[01:48] <LjL> you seriously require a gpg signed form and cheers from people to add an op to more channels...?
[01:48] <bazhang> heh
[01:48] <bazhang> three mythical creatures not people
[01:48] <LjL> good thing i haven't read the past irc council meetings logs
[01:48] <LjL> it'd have probably hurt my stomach
[01:49] <Flannel> LjL: No
[02:22] <Pricey> LjL: it was my form of sarcasm as to why we hadn't approved anything.
[02:22] <bazhang> entmoot
[02:23] <Pricey> It is most likely my bad memory as to why it has been forgotten.
[02:23] <bazhang> there should be more ops in -ot and +1
[02:23] <LjL> Pricey: and thanks god.
[02:24] <bazhang> perhaps stating it now will mean by 10.04 it will happen.
[02:24] <Pricey> bazhang: sarcasm ftw!
[02:24] <Pricey> bazhang: or were yo ubeing serious...?
[02:24] <Pricey> :P
[02:24] <bazhang> Pricey, actually not being sarcastic in the slightest
[02:24] <bazhang> Pricey, this has been an issue for a very long time.
[02:27] <bazhang> telling someone to stop is not persecution. and __mikem needs to stop PM'ing when called on bad behaviour.
[02:27] <bazhang> ie suggesting violence towards others etc
[02:28] <LjL> ?
[02:33] <LjL> i see
[02:34] <Pricey> He doesn't normally quit does he/
[02:35] <LjL> Pricey: well no he does sometimes
[02:36] <LjL> not particularly often
[04:20] <mneptok> tritium: evenin'
[04:20] <tritium> Hi mneptok!
[04:20]  * bazhang huggles mneptok
[04:20] <mneptok> tritium: how's the oven bun?
[04:20] <bazhang> mneptok, !!!
[04:21] <mneptok> bazhang: ???!!! :)
[04:21] <tritium> mneptok: getting very close to done
[04:21] <mneptok> tritium: we're listening for the *ding*
[04:21] <Flannel> bazhang: tritium is a baker by trade, didn't you know that?
[04:22] <tritium> mneptok: I'll keep you posted :)
[04:22] <mneptok> tritium: tell her she's doing a great job carrying that 10lbs in the uterus and 170lbs in the passenger seat ;)
[04:22] <tritium> I'll tell her you said that ;)
[04:22]  * mneptok guess tritium weighs ~170
[04:23] <tritium> Eh, 150 or so.
[04:23] <tritium> Flannel: :)
[04:23] <mneptok> tritium: OK, adjust comment to match, please :)
[04:23] <tritium> Will do.  When do you or woowoo arrive?
[04:23] <mneptok> tritium: we're hoping for splashdown pre-May 1
[04:24] <tritium> No airfare yet?  Or are you driving a moving truck?
[04:24] <mneptok> tritium: so we *should* be able to back you guys up. grocery runs, etc.
[04:24] <mneptok> getting qoutes from movers and then deciding
[04:24] <tritium> mneptok: thanks!
[04:25] <mneptok> most likely we'll just hire company, one of us will fly, and the other will drive the car down
[04:25] <tritium> Ah, ok.
[04:25] <tritium> You'll be here in time to work on a presentation for NM LinuxFest.
[04:26] <tritium> Flannel: you should come and present too.
[04:26] <Flannel> Hmmm?
[04:26] <mneptok> tritium: dates?
[04:26] <tritium> mneptok: it's looking like November
[04:27] <mneptok> OK, i'll try to get it booked soon so Monty doesn't throw me somewhere else
[04:27] <tritium> Awesome, thanks, mneptok.
[04:27] <tritium> Flannel: http://nmlinuxfest.ning.com/
[04:28] <tritium> It would be nice to try and get LaserJock down here for it too.
[04:34] <tritium> excuse me for a bit...
[04:36] <Flannel> 30 minutes for WTFsure--
[04:41] <bazhang> yes.
[04:41] <Flannel> Aww, bazhang is a ninja
[04:41] <bazhang> that was pure serendipity Flannel ; I tabbed to that channel just as he spoke.
[04:42] <Flannel> op-sense
[04:42] <bazhang> more like didnt want to see non-sense in -ot
[04:42] <Flannel> erm
[04:42] <Flannel> cytoplasm =?= thefeds
[04:42] <bazhang> yep
[04:44] <pleia2> elky: you about?
[04:44] <Flannel> pleia2: She's shopping for chairs and shoes.
[04:45] <pleia2> darn :)
[04:45] <pleia2> borderline troll in #ubuntu-women, but he hasn't done anything ban-worthy yet
[04:45] <pleia2> and it's bedtime for me!
[04:47] <bazhang> thought half or more of you had ops there :)
[04:47] <pleia2> half or more of us are in the US and EU
[04:47] <pleia2> sleepytime :)
[04:47]  * pleia2 found an active op though
[04:47] <bazhang> hehe
[04:47] <Flannel> US?  It's only 9!
[04:47] <pleia2> eastern us, it's almost midnight!
[04:47] <Flannel> s/almost/only/
[04:48] <pleia2> and I'm ooold
[04:48] <pleia2> :P
[04:48] <bazhang> nah.
[04:48] <bazhang> still learning = young
[04:48] <pleia2> hehe
[04:48] <bazhang> true.
[04:48] <pleia2> well then, I need my beauty sleep ;)
[04:48] <bazhang> good point!
[04:49] <Flannel> bazhang: Wrong... way to agree to that.
[04:49] <bazhang> uh sowwy
[04:49] <Flannel> heh
[05:40] <bazhang> * [firiansbabymomma] (n=chris@cpe-024-074-052-096.carolina.res.rr.com): purple  ubbycd , entered as musikgoat | second
[05:41] <bazhang> thought impersonating other users was frowned upon (ie musikgoat |main/musikgoat)
[05:44] <Flannel> What?
[05:45] <bazhang> or this only for ops
[05:45] <bazhang> ie ikoniaz ljlop etc trolls of recent vintage
[05:45] <Flannel> No, no, where/when was this?
[05:45] <bazhang> in #ubuntu
[05:46] <bazhang> ubbycd (formerly) entered as musikgoat|second, then morphed to firiansbabymomma
[05:46] <Flannel> There we go.
[05:47] <Flannel> Yeah, he's just trying to be annoying about it now.
[05:47] <bazhang> wow that is really annoying; whoever he is helping (ie rvns) newnicks to rnvshomie etc
[06:49] <jussi01> if anyone sees ikonia this morning, please tell him to check his pm's from me :)
 ultimatix
[07:49] <bazhang> psywiped has been warned many many times about telling folks to google it and random offtopic comments. next time is a ban
[07:50] <bazhang> o0Chris0o, how may we help you
[07:50] <o0Chris0o> is "themolester"  considered a proper nick name?
[07:52] <o0Chris0o> a guy in #ubuntu is using it, just thought I would ask
[07:52] <bazhang> o0Chris0o, thanks for bringing it to our attention.
[07:53] <o0Chris0o> np
[08:20] <Flannel> ikonia: Much better answer than mine.
[08:20] <Flannel> ikonia: Also, check your queries from jussi-01
[08:21] <ikonia> oh right, not seen anything from him, ta
[09:21]  * jussi01 waves in ikonia's direction
[09:24]  * jussi01 is feeling old
[09:55] <topyli> jussi01: i just deleted a couple of feeds from your google reader :(
[09:56] <topyli> jussi01: you were logged in on my eeepc and was starting to go through my feeds, thought "this is all screwed up"
[09:57] <jussi01> topyli: meh...
[09:57] <topyli> then realized i'm you and logged out
[09:58] <topyli> i didn't buy anything as you :)
[09:58] <Gary> should have :p
[09:59] <topyli> hehe
[09:59] <jussi01> topyli: not yet :D
[09:59] <jussi01> :P
[09:59] <topyli> you should have logged into amazon :)
[10:00] <Gary> and bought "interesting" videos
[10:00] <Gary> just for the lawls
[10:01] <topyli> i wonder how often this happens in libraries and such
[10:02] <Gary> I once rented a "alternative lifestyle" film from blockbusters on a mates card, and was purposefully late on returning it, so he'd get told off
[10:03] <topyli> heh
[10:05] <topyli> which surprised him more? that he had rented it, or that he had eventually returned it?
[10:06] <jussi01> Gary: you are a nasty person...
[10:06] <jussi01> :P
[10:07] <Gary> he argued the case in the middle of the shop floor, until the memeber of staff, loudly, said what movie it was, then shut up in shame
[10:07] <topyli> hehehe
[10:07] <Gary> I got so much stick for it, but it was worth every bruise :p
[10:17] <jpds> *sigh*
[10:18] <Gary> bazhang: lol
[10:18] <bazhang> wth
[10:18] <Gary> right after I said that too
[10:18] <bazhang> Gary, sorry too much idiocy today
[10:19] <Gary> I ought to turn the highlight off, even grawity (who is being helpful) is highlighting me
[10:20] <bazhang> :/
[10:20] <jpds> Lovely.
[10:20] <jpds> Gary: Same here.
[10:20] <bazhang> grawity, how may we help you
[10:21] <hASDhaQ> hello?
[10:21] <hASDhaQ> I need help in #ubuntu-es please
[10:21] <hASDhaQ> he is TORtuga|O_O| flooding
[10:21] <jussi01> hASDhaQ: #ubuntu-irc ;)
[10:21] <hASDhaQ> ok, thx
[10:22] <jussi01> jpds: ^
[10:22] <bazhang> he was kb/d from #ubuntu
[10:22] <bazhang> and here as well at one point
[10:22] <jussi01> hASDhaQ: anything else you need from us?
[10:22] <jussi01> !idle | hASDhaQ
[10:24] <hASDhaQ> ok, he is banned, thx:)
[10:38] <elky> ok, who is grawity?
[10:38]  * grawity raises hand.
[10:38] <grawity> So that's how ubottu works.
[10:39] <bazhang> part time helper  much time user of /me in #ubuntu
[10:39] <bazhang> been asked several times not to
[10:40] <elky> how did he know the bot that well though?
[10:40] <bazhang> strangely quiet on the stalker front; only yamata seems to be accounted for
[10:42]  * jussi01 is really digging this mpd+icecast setup...
[10:42] <jussi01> :D
[10:45] <jussi01> elky: maybe he just knows supybot? or read the manual on the wiki?
[10:45] <elky> bazhang, he popped up again?
[10:46] <bazhang> elky, briefly in -ot yesterday, he hangs mostly in #freenode
 (well one more ot thing) goodnight all brain is flashing the capslock at me so i need to reset it for 8hrs and reindex parts of it have fun.
[10:47] <elky> saywha?
[10:47] <bazhang> he was almost nothing but offtopic; telling people to google it, then complaining when called on it
[10:47] <elky> no seriously, what the hell does that *mean*?
[10:47] <bazhang> and randomly weirdly offtopic; 'but I helped for an hour!'
[10:48] <bazhang> he claims that he gets the linux bsod that is flashing capslock
[10:49] <bazhang> icebuntu is now umakant (in #k yesterday briefly) and groovyorange is app1e, only in ##english afaict
[10:50] <elky> and what did mr umakant have to say in #k?
[10:52] <bazhang> not much; just /me yawns and goes back to sleep or somesuch
[10:53]  * elky greps some logs
 whats the channel if i want to spam?
[10:55] <bazhang> me resists temptation..
[10:56] <elky> where was that?
[10:56] <bazhang> main channel he left
[10:57] <bazhang> a polite spammer. a rarity these days :)
[10:57] <elky> or, a troll
[10:58] <elky> or a little from column a, a little from column b
[10:58] <bazhang> heh
[10:58] <bazhang> well he went to #politics in all likelihood
 okey try colinux anki1  or qemu :  icebuntu?
[14:40] <thefeds> Do I need to have the samba service running to share a printer?
[14:43] <jussi01> thefeds: you do realise where you are?
[14:45] <Seeker`> @login
[14:46] <Seeker`> thefeds: are you there?
[14:46] <thefeds> soz
[14:47] <elky> oh, so he kept on going after my warnings, eh?
[14:52] <ikonia> fyi: I forwarded thefeds here as there is more going on that seems
[14:53]  * jussi01 waves at ikonia
[14:53] <ikonia> he is trolling channels as thefeds - then changing nicks to cytoplasm which is a registered and cloaked nick
[14:53] <ikonia> jussi01: hello
[14:53] <ikonia> jussi01: happy birthday weekend
[14:53] <jussi01> ikonia: I assume you will not make it here...
[14:53] <jussi01> ikonia: thansks :)
[14:53] <ikonia> I'm at my parents, I bounced you an email last night
[14:54] <jussi01> you did?
[14:54] <jussi01> I havent seen the email... which address?
[14:54] <ikonia> yeah, when I got to my parents
[14:54] <ikonia> your jussi.com
[14:54] <ikonia> infact - I've just realised I sent it to jussi.com not jussi01.com
[14:54] <ikonia> idiot
[14:54] <jussi01> I dont have a jussi01.com email address....
[14:54] <ikonia> sorry
[14:54] <ikonia> ahh that may explain it then
[14:54] <jussi01> justt gmail one that is jussi01@
[14:55] <jussi01> heh
[14:55] <ikonia> nope, my fault then
[14:55] <ikonia> it was late
[14:55] <ikonia> sorry, was on autopilot
[14:55] <jussi01> hows your dad?
[14:55] <ikonia> jussi01 = jussi01.com
[14:55]  * jussi01 should set that up...
[14:55] <ikonia> errrr "ok" seems much better, although tests are non-clonclusive at this time, so there are more tests going on at the moment
[14:56] <ikonia> waiting for results, which are again late
[14:57] <jussi01> good to hear he getting there, though frustrating that you dont know
[14:57] <ikonia> jussi01: how goes the birthday weekend plans so far ?
[14:57] <Seeker`> ikonia: what happened?
[14:57] <ikonia> jussi01: he "seem" better, but that doesn't count for much until test results back it
[14:57] <ikonia> Seeker`: dads got a superbug
[14:58] <Seeker`> :(
[15:00] <ikonia> just waiting now...
[15:02] <Seeker`> how did he manage that?
[15:03] <ikonia> he had an operating on his leg a few weeks ago, it is suspected he caught it then and it's taken a week or two to wake up enough to be detected
[15:03] <ikonia> nothing confirmed though
[15:03] <Seeker`> ah
[15:03] <Seeker`> I hope he recovers quickly
[15:03] <ikonia> thank you
[15:04] <ikonia> we've been warned it could take a while due to his age/health and how adaptive the bug is
[15:05] <LjL> ugh, will green-dragon be yesterday's troll who was haunting me
[15:06] <ikonia> LjL: what's going on ?
[15:06] <ikonia> ahh I see
[15:06] <LjL> ikonia: just a little flood, but the nickname rings that bell, not sure
[15:06] <ikonia> yeah, he joined here yesterday then parted
[15:06] <ikonia> oh, wait, that was green ranger
[15:06] <ikonia> he wanted megazoid power
[15:07] <LjL> yep
[15:07] <LjL> greenranger was definitely that troll
[15:07] <LjL> might just be a coincidence
[15:07] <LjL> probably is
[15:07] <LjL> or not.
[15:07] <ikonia> there we go - bang on que
[15:10] <LjL> meh
 Please help!  Is someone seeing everything I do on my computer? <LjL> Green-Dragon: stop flooding <LjL> !paste > Green-Dragon    (Green-Dragon, see the private message from ubottu) <Green-Dragon> Sorry.  I have a Bluetooth mouse but no Bluetooth keyboard. <Green-Dragon> But it says a bluetooth keyboard is connecting.... <Green-Dragon> and my mouse is not connecting but it says another mouse is connecting. <LjL> Green-Dragon: people are not
[15:12] <LjL> seeing what you type now. <Green-Dragon> AHH! <LjL> Green-Dragon: can you assure me that you won't flood the channel like that again, and use the pastebin instead? <Green-Dragon> How do I do that? <LjL> !pastebin | Green-Dragon <Green-Dragon> !pastebin |Green-Dragon test <LjL> Green-Dragon: no, not like that. <LjL> Green-Dragon: READ the message you just got.
[15:42] <jpds> ikonia: What's your opinion on the scrollback in #u-uk?
[15:42] <ikonia> let me have a look
[15:42] <ikonia> jpds: I assume you mean sebsebseb ?
[15:43] <jpds> ikonia: All of them.
[15:43] <jpds> Well, most, they're getting quite silly.
[15:44] <ikonia> jpds: I think it sucks to be honest
[15:44] <ikonia> (just scimmed through the last 15 minutes)
[15:45] <elky> ?
[15:45] <ikonia> elky: have a scroll back though -uk it's kiddie central
[15:45]  * elky hunts for the logs
[15:45] <elky> !logs
[15:46] <jpds> elky: http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2009/04/04/%23ubuntu-uk.html
[15:46] <ikonia> jpds is well prepped
[15:46] <jpds> As always.
[15:47] <ikonia> time for a break
[15:49] <elky> i've found the aussie chicks convo, and them telling hippychick girls dont exist on the intarwebs
[16:22] <elky> um...
[16:25] <Seeker`> that bot is in ubuntu
[16:26] <Seeker`> or whatever it(?) is
[16:26] <LjL> Tcl?
[16:26] <LjL> not a bot afaik
[16:26] <LjL> just a fancy ident i suppose
[16:28] <ikonia> he was interactive the other day
[17:09] <bazhang> give me access there LjL I will do it.
[17:09] <LjL> you mean op - i don't have the access to give you access
[17:10] <bazhang> aha
[17:10] <bazhang> that convo is getting a bit o4o imo
[17:10] <LjL> yeah i think it's turning away from that now though
[17:11] <LjL> or not, thanks to netytroll
[17:11] <bazhang> windows vs linux is much better
[17:31] <mneptok> 12:31 [Freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from Tcl: xchat 2.8.6 Ubuntu
[17:32] <ikonia> great
[17:33] <ikonia> I'll give him a nudge
[17:37] <ikonia> I now need a tissue to mop up the drink I've just dribbled laughing, thank you ljl
[17:37] <LjL> sorry
[17:38] <ikonia> it was worth it
[17:38] <ikonia> good chuckle
[17:38] <bazhang> I am happy to stay that way for a bit, kind of like +m
[17:56] <bazhang> ok topyli is back
[17:57] <bazhang> -ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
[17:57] <bazhang> aww
[17:59] <bazhang> hmm /cycle did it
[17:59] <LjL> err...
[17:59] <LjL>  /mode #channel -o nickname
[17:59] <LjL> or often simply
[17:59] <LjL>  /deop nickname
[17:59] <topyli> bazhang: what is it?
[17:59] <bazhang> nope did not work
[17:59] <LjL> bazhang: cannot "not work"
[17:59] <topyli> i'm back, and i'm the cleanest man on the channel!
[17:59] <LjL> if you're opped, you can deop yourself
[18:00] <bazhang> topyli, just wanted to be de-opped
[18:00] <bazhang> and so I did
[18:00] <topyli> bazhang: huh? are you retiring or what?
[18:00] <LjL> topyli, your sauna has confused you, shush.
[18:01] <bazhang> in -ot
[18:01] <topyli> aaaaaaaah
[18:01] <topyli> sorry
[18:01] <bazhang> seems that chanserv.py looks for access
[18:01] <topyli> LjL: that's what it's *for*
[18:01] <LjL> of course if you aren't in the access list you can't ask chanserv to deop you
[18:01] <LjL> but you can still just deop you!
[18:01] <bazhang> yep
[18:02] <topyli> pray with me: please make a goal now kärpät
[18:02] <LjL> topyli: i couldn't care less
[18:02] <topyli> :(
[18:02] <topyli> for me!
[18:03] <LjL> as i said
[18:03] <topyli> :(
[18:03] <bazhang> whoa
[18:03] <bazhang> !prayer
[18:04] <topyli> we need to add something there. like "please let kärpät win their hockey games"
[18:04] <bazhang> heh myrrti would throw a fit
[18:04] <topyli> "(more often than not)"
[18:04] <bazhang> haha
[18:04] <topyli> bazhang: oh yeah, i forgot the other finns :)
[18:05] <LjL> i'd also like to add "please let people who have an obsession for games involving goals and people chasing a ball find peace"
[18:06] <topyli> LjL: that's too much to ask im afraid :(
[18:06] <bazhang> * ikonia_test<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu  :0
[18:06] <ikonia> it's me
[18:06] <ikonia> it's fine
[18:06] <bazhang> botnet!
[18:06] <ikonia> yes, I'm about to attack with me 2 users
[18:07] <bazhang> hehe
[18:07] <bazhang> still waiting for those 64 years worth of PM's from dingding
[18:07] <topyli> how can it be so difficult to score? i should go there myself
[18:07] <ikonia> he's long gone
[18:07] <bazhang> klined?
[18:08] <ikonia> nah, just couldn't get past the ban so not bothered
[18:08] <ikonia> (frmo what I've seen)
[18:08] <bazhang> aha
[18:08] <ikonia> from
[18:11] <bazhang> freenode policy of only opping when needed is wise
[18:11] <ikonia> didn't think that was freeenode
[18:12] <ikonia> just ubuntu
[18:12] <LjL> it is freenode
[18:12] <ikonia> didn't know that
[18:12] <Seeker`> bazhang: oh?
[18:12] <bazhang> felt odd like that in -ot
[18:12] <Seeker`> only because you are'nt used to it :P
[18:12] <bazhang> funny how fast netyire quit though
[18:13] <topyli> one minute to go. we're losing :(
[18:14] <topyli> gooooooooooooooooool
[18:14] <LjL> pfui
[18:14] <topyli> yey
[18:16] <topyli> overtime!
[18:16] <topyli> i'm not sure if you are all very interested though :)
[18:17] <bazhang> hehe
[18:19] <topyli> finland sucks at football, so we sort of have to be proud of sports we're good in, like hockey, ski jumping and rally. you know, sports that almost nobody else does
[18:20] <topyli> wife carrying used to be strong here, but the estonians have sort of taken over
[18:22] <Nafallo> estonians...
[18:22] <Nafallo> leave that thought Nafallo. srsly.
[18:23] <topyli> greatest wife carriers in the world currently!
[18:23] <topyli> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_carrying
[18:34] <ikonia> no response from tcl
[18:34] <ikonia> gave him a few pm prods
[18:47] <ikonia> chaps whats the deal with tcl - it is acting "bot like" again even though it was human earlier, it's ctcp'd my test account when I signed in and mneptok earlier
[18:47] <ikonia> I've tried to contact tcl in a pm but not had a response, and he's ideling in two channels that are known to have problem users ubuntu-ro and ubuntu-il although thats obviously not a crime
[18:49] <mneptok> ikonia: it did not CTCP me. i CTCP'ed it.
[18:49] <ikonia> ooh, it hit my test account eazrlier
[18:49] <ikonia> earlier
[18:50] <ikonia> it did appear to be a human earlier though, eg: talked
[18:50] <ikonia> interactively
[18:50] <ikonia> keep an eye on it ?
[18:51] <ikonia> ryanakca: what's up ?
[18:54] <ryanakca> ikonia: irssi is segfaulting. I disabled autojoin while I'm sorting it out
[18:54] <ikonia> sounds fun
[18:54] <ryanakca> not really ;)
[19:06] <ryanakca> ikonia: Hmmm... restored my ~/.irssi/config to an older backup, doesn't seem to be segfaulting every few times I change channel windows, hopefully it's fixed :)
[19:06] <ikonia> good good
[21:01] <Seeker`> nalioth: can we get an update on mootbots logs please
[21:49]  * nalioth gets his pencil out
[21:50] <LjL> nalioth: need a laser pointer?
[21:51] <LjL> mine is just a bit modded, the light power is probably not really lethal
[22:11] <ryanakca> Not sure if necessary (the floodbot kicked him), but should blkgmrgrl666 get +b so that he doesn't return (Was link spamming in #ubuntu)?
[22:11] <LjL> ryanakca: he was using mibbit
[22:11] <LjL> so he already got an automatic ban
[22:11] <ryanakca> Ah
[23:02] <Like> bueno bienvenido soy creo
[23:02] <Like> ebo hablar en ingles o en español
[23:02] <Like> ?
[23:03] <Like> bn sin dar nombres sobre la organizacion
[23:04] <Like> devo colabroaER con el projecto
[23:04] <Like> bn
[23:04] <Like> bienvenidos a la charla
[23:04] <Like> estamos mas +30 en deustche belle
[23:04] <Like> k
[23:04] <Like> bn
[23:04] <Like> bienvenidos
[23:05] <jpds> Like: Que quieres exactamente?
[23:05] <Like> jpds,  bn yuou quiero teclear unas palabras para el aporte de la casa GNU UNIX:)
[23:05] <Like> pero
[23:06] <jpds> OK; en este canal se hable ingles.
[23:06] <LjL> are you one of those clones i banned the other days?
[23:06] <Like> djam un tabaco ¬¬
[23:06] <LjL> ah, no
[23:07] <Like> bn estoy hablando de la libertad de escritores
[23:07] <Like> y colaboradores de nuestras librerias
[23:07] <Like> pùes bn
[23:08] <Like> que significa compilar ej descargar librerias hacer make i make install
[23:08] <Like> bn esto es *** un debate *** mas treinta de lo que podemos llegar a escribir en nuestros teclados via vim
[23:08] <LjL> like mira
[23:08] <Like> ok
[23:09] <LjL> estoy demasiado mal para hablar ingles, imaginate para hablar español
[23:09] <LjL> no se verdadement que estas dicendo
[23:09] <Like> para viper tengo mi ekipo mas treinta ranger rci 2970
[23:09] <LjL> pero... porque estas en este canal?
[23:09] <Like> bien
[23:10] <Like> estoy aki en el canal para informarte sobre el indice linux
[23:10] <LjL> bueno
[23:10] <Like> y lo que es el plan ceibal en uruguay
[23:10] <LjL> pero este canal es para operadores
[23:10] <Like> bn
[23:10] <LjL> no para discusion general
[23:10] <Like> pues yo eh sido escogido entre una malloria
[23:10] <Like> bn en discusion generqal ps
[23:11] <Like> mas treinta con audio ?
[23:11] <LjL> like, tienes preguntas para los operadores de #ubuntu? (no #ubuntu-es o otros canales locales)
[23:11] <Like> pss espera que atienda la llamada
[23:12] <Like> como operadores que somos que nos planteamos /***
[23:12] <Like> de la situaqcion
[23:12] <Like> pss bn
[23:13] <Like> estamos mas treinta aki en un debate
[23:13] <Like> sobre el indice Linux
[23:13] <Like> LjL,
[23:14] <jpds> Hear hear.
[23:16] <Seeker`> the last 15 mins were total rubbish
[23:17] <LjL> besides, i've just told you i cannot really speak spanish well
[23:17] <LjL> you don't keep talking in abbreviations and slang
[23:17] <LjL> that's just rude.
[23:31] <nalioth> anyone familiar with rbot?
[23:40] <Seeker`> nope


[01:50] <tkostas> I would like to submit my first package, can Anyone help me a bit ? I read on wiki a good way to start was to discuss on this IRC :)
[01:51] <tkostas> Package can be found here: https://github.com/ascentai/pi-bluetooth
[17:16] <teward> any MOTU willing to assist me with sponsoring iptables-persistent uploads for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iptables-persistent/+bug/1820144 for the SRU team to review?
[17:45] <tsimonq2> teward: I can in a few hours if nobody else does.
[17:45] <teward> tsimonq2: ack.  it's a native format package if it makes any difference
[17:45] <teward> i'll prod the SRU team once it's uploaded to the unapproved queues :P
[17:46] <tsimonq2> ok


[07:43] <dholbach> good morning
[07:48] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[07:50] <dholbach> hi iulian
[07:56] <ajmitch> hi dholbach, iulian
[07:56] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[07:57] <iulian> Hi there ajmitch.
[08:04] <ajmitch> so how's saucy looking these days? :)
[08:13] <iulian> ajmitch: Hmm... saucy? :)
[08:13] <Laney> sassy
[08:13] <iulian> Hehe, or that.


[02:01] <ak> Hello,as a gnu/linux newbie i m trying to setup an ubuntu 12.04 server.The server machine is connected to internet via a wifi card.What i am trying to do is to also make that card work as an AP @ the same time.Is that possible?Thanks in advance!
[02:22] <TheLordOfTime> was going to say that you need two NICs to make a truly-usable AP
[07:06] <ketan985> what's best monitering tool for ubuntu server ????
[07:17] <lifeless> Mark 1 eyeball.
[07:18] <sarnold> only good if hooked up to a mk ii brain :)
[08:48] <Kredo> hi guys
[08:48] <Kredo> need help: Device /dev/ttyUSB0 is locked
[08:48] <Kredo> can I send/rcv sms while connected?
[09:53] <megha> is ubuntu server stable compared to debian ? or both of them are equal
[09:54] <koolhead17> megha: what are u trying to deploy install? Its all same. And Ubuntu has all new cloudy pkgs
[09:54] <megha> cloudy pkgs ?
[09:55] <megha> koolhead17: i am trying to setup a webserver.
[09:55] <megha> for commercial purpose.
[09:55] <koolhead17> megha: cloudy == cloud computing ones
[09:55] <koolhead17> megha: go ahead with a LTS server and your good
[09:56] <megha> ok :)
[09:56] <megha> ubuntu server is debian testing repos right ?
[10:32] <koolhead17> megha: who gave you that crap?
[10:33] <koolhead17> i said go use 12.04 LTS it has 5 yr support
[10:34] <megha> people in other channel
[10:35] <koolhead17> megha: your smart enough i suppose 2 take decision :)
[10:36] <megha> hmmm..
[10:59] <eutheria> does the 12.04 still hit on a cd?
[11:28] <jamespage> zul, bug 1101158 is the problem impacting the glance client
[11:29] <jamespage> zul, I had a quick pass at an upgrade but it needs a new dependency - jsonpatch
[11:30] <jamespage> zul, indeed smoser already spotted this - bug 1098688
[11:30] <jamespage> duped
[12:15] <vnc786> i have 10 machines with ubuntu 12.04 running through LTSP now i want to configure gnome settings of one user and apply that settings to others. how do i do that ?
[12:16] <ogra_> vnc786, as i said before, try #ltsp
[12:20] <vnc786> @ogra_: what if i would be running normal 2-3 ubuntu machines
[12:20] <ogra_> then you would likely ask in a desktop related channel
[12:21] <ogra_> ltsp has the (dis)advantage of touching both worlds like nothing else
[12:41] <feisar> hi, I mounted a LV to use as /var but now I would like to remove the files that are 'under' that mount (the old /var mount point) what's the best way of going about that?
[12:42] <feisar> (I did the same with /tmp and simply umounted the LV, removed the old /tmp files and remounted but I can't umount /var or course)
[12:48] <feisar> ah, maybe --bind is what I need?
[12:52] <zul> jamespage: grrrr
[13:06] <zul> jamespage: there is an easy wasy to fix that
[13:06] <jamespage> zul, oh yes
[13:06] <jamespage> it appears to work as well
[13:06] <jamespage> :-)
[13:06] <zul> jamespage: patch the requirements.txt :)
[13:07] <jamespage> zul, want me todo that? then you can worry about the upgrade path to the newer version :-)
[13:07] <jamespage> zul, that was how I fixed it locally :-)
[13:07] <zul> jamespage: ill do it and get the new version of warlock ready as well
[13:07] <zul> good morning btw
[13:18] <zul> jamespage: do we have a compeling reason to update to the new python-warlock?
[13:23] <jamespage> zul, morning
[13:23] <jamespage> zul, probably not
[13:24] <zul> jamespage: ok lets put it off then
[13:26] <zul> anyways warlock has been updated
[13:33] <smoser> jamespage, it wasn't actually clear to me that it really *did* have htat dependecy on 0.2
[13:33] <smoser> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098688
[13:34] <smoser> ie, i just changed the name that jsonchema reported and it got past initial trap, and i was then failing to auth against HP cloud, but i didn't test against aa known working state.
[13:37] <zul> jamespage: btw https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/0.2.2/+merge/143880
[13:40] <zul> yolanda: sorry can you look at this as well? https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/0.2.2/+merge/143880
[13:41] <yolanda> hi zul
[13:41] <yolanda> ok
[13:43] <yolanda> zul, is just the comments in changelog?
[13:43] <zul> yolanda: yep
[13:43] <yolanda> easy one then
[13:43] <yolanda> done
[13:44] <zul> thanks
[13:47] <maxb> Does anyone know of any script/webapp/... that gathers information on upgradeable packages across a farm of servers and collates the information?
[13:49] <zul> maxb:  yes....its called landscape http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/landscape
[16:21] <frojnd> Hi there.
[16:25] <RoyK> ho
[16:25] <frojnd> Sup, sup :)
[16:30] <TheBronx> hi!
[16:32] <TheBronx> this is probably not the best place to ask this but... any libpcap expert?
[16:33] <TheBronx> I have a simple c program using libpcap, it works but one of the CPU cores is always at 100%...
[16:35] <tboat> hey all, I am trying to get my postfix mail to forward to gmail, ive tried setting up a forward service in postfix conf, but the mail doesn't forward
[16:37] <qhartman> TheBronx, Almost certainly not the place to ask. I would guess though that you've got some expensive loop in there that you don't need.
[16:37] <RoyK> TheBronx: what sort of program are you writing? parsing a big pcap file will usually take some cpu
[16:37] <RoyK> TheBronx: perhaps ##c
[16:38] <TheBronx> thank you qhartman and RoyK. It is just a callback from pcap_loop. I've tried an empty callback but the CPU is still at 100%... weird
[16:39] <RoyK> TheBronx: try ##c
[16:41] <RoyK> TheBronx: or perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:42] <qhartman> I'd imagine there is a channel on here somewhere that would be more specific to network programming
[16:42] <TheBronx> thank you guys, I love this channel :P
[16:59] <SpamapS> smoser: so default: true doesn't seem to be a thing one can override
[17:00] <SpamapS> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546051/
[17:00] <SpamapS> smoser: that pretty much determines if the user is "the system default user"
[17:02] <smoser> SpamapS, well, in trunk the goal here would be that the 'distro' has a 'default_user' that is set via config.
[17:02] <smoser> (config could also come from user-data)
[17:02] <smoser> and then 'user:' would ideally change that also.
[17:02] <smoser> maybe.
[17:02] <smoser> i'm   not sure.
[17:02] <smoser> sorry this sucks.
[17:02] <SpamapS> smoser: right, in this case, I think the 'user: ...' should be assumed to override the distro default.
[17:03] <SpamapS> smoser: or a user that sames default: true
[17:03] <smoser> right. i think that generally makes sense.
[17:03] <SpamapS> s/sames/says/
[17:03] <smoser> tha tits presense baically patches the distro's 'default_user'
[17:03] <SpamapS> smoser: so I may have a patch to do at least part 1, maybe part 2 of my thinking
[17:03] <smoser> on trunk ?
[17:03] <smoser> please do it on trunk.
[17:03] <SpamapS> yeah it would be trunk
[17:03] <smoser> even though thats different from quantal.
[17:04] <SpamapS> there's also something weird about my environment because if I just boot an instance on ec2 or hpcloud, that is basically what happens
[17:04] <SpamapS> thats sort of where I'm stuck and trying to figure out WTF
[17:05] <eutheria> in /etc/network/interfaces i thought i could define the DNS servers
[17:05] <SpamapS> eutheria: you can but on newer systems you have to do it a little differently
[17:05] <eutheria> so i am using 12.04
[17:06] <eutheria> what do you do now
[17:06] <SpamapS> eutheria: man resolvconf
[17:06] <eutheria> ty
[17:06] <SpamapS> eutheria: you probably just want 'dns-nameservers x.x.x.x y.y.y.y'
[17:07] <eutheria> think so
[17:07] <SpamapS> smoser: is there a way to re-run cloud-init but only check local on-disk metadata? Its a pain for me to iterate by spinning new instances whenever I want to change userdata
[17:08] <eutheria> i only had used resolveconf for openvpn before
[17:08] <smoser> SpamapS, yes.
[17:09] <smoser> SpamapS, see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/files/head:/doc/examples/seed/ for example of how to populate directory that will be read rather than user-data/meta-ata in ec2
[17:10] <SpamapS> oh duh
[17:10] <SpamapS> just use the nocloud
[17:10] <smoser> then, you're capable of reading the cloud-init upstart jobs
[17:10] <smoser> just call them in order
[17:10] <SpamapS> yeah
[17:10] <smoser> oh
[17:10] <smoser> rm -Rf /var/lib/cloud
[17:11] <smoser> (that is a bit of a pain (patches welcome) since nocloud looks there)
[17:11] <SpamapS> thats ok
[17:11] <SpamapS> thats what I've been doing to re-run w/ the existing metadata pulled from metadata service
[17:11] <SpamapS> but now i want to change said metadata
[17:11] <smoser> one thing that'd be nice for me to cdocument is how you could use this with overlayroot
[17:11] <smoser> eseentially, you can boot an instance with overlayroot, so that every reboot is "fresh"
[17:11]  * SpamapS could just login to the mysql server hosting it.. but that just seems wrong ;)
[17:11] <smoser> (still have to reboot, but no new instance)
[17:12] <smoser> and you can intentionally make changes to the real root store to persist across reboot
[17:12] <smoser> so many things i have failed to document
[17:12] <SpamapS> smoser: so like schroot, but for instances :)
[17:12] <smoser> right.
[17:17] <smoser> SpamapS, there is #cloud-init fyi.
[17:17] <smoser> and harlowja there is the brains behind the cloud-init operation :)
[17:22] <stuffthatspins> i'm in desperate help… upgraded my server from 10.04 to 12.0.4LTS yesterday. and lost all my additional IP addresses. only the main IP address works.
[17:22] <stuffthatspins> would take advice here or happy to pay offline.
[17:24] <RoyK> stuffthatspins: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[17:25] <RoyK> or pm it if you're nervous
[17:34] <zastern> Is there a way to list installed/available AppArmor profiles?
[17:34] <zastern> I'd like to enable the Apache/HTTPD profile but I can't really figure out how
[17:37] <frojnd> zastern | Is there a way to list installed/available AppArmor profiles? apparmor_status
[17:38] <sarnold> frojnd: that'll only show what is currently loaded; there's no easy way to list what is easily available on the system
[17:39] <frojnd> sarnold: gotcha
[17:39] <frojnd> How do I check if mysqld and nginx are automatically enabled at boot?
[17:39] <sarnold> zastern: the apparmor-profiles package will install a /usr/share/doc/apparmor-profiles/extras/usr.sbin.httpd2-prefork   file that you can copy into /etc/apparmor.d/ as a starting point
[17:40] <zastern> sarnold: thanks sir/ma'am. I'll look into thatl.
[17:42] <sarnold> frojnd: the upstart cookbook is where I turn for things like that.. http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#cookbook-and-best-practises
[17:42] <sarnold> frojnd: I think what you need is "initctl list", but it feels like there ought to be something a bit less verbose..
[17:42] <jdstrand> zastern, sarnold: do not that libapache2-mod-apparmor also ships /etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.apache2.mpm-prefork.apache2. it has directions inside it on how to use it
[17:42] <zastern> do not that?
[17:43] <zastern> ill check that out, thank you!
[17:43] <jdstrand> s/do not/do note/
[17:43] <sarnold> jdstrand: aha, thanks :)
[17:43] <zastern> that sounds more gooder than just a recipie
[17:43] <zastern> an actual mod for apache
[17:43] <jdstrand> sarnold: it is setup so that apache2 itself is unconfined but such that it will use change_hat
[17:44] <stuffthatspins> jdstrand: :)
[17:44] <jdstrand> but that can be changed by modifying the profile obviously
[17:45] <sarnold> jdstrand: ooh, that's nice. :)
[17:45] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: did a nice job with it I think
[17:45] <jdstrand> err
[17:45] <jdstrand> mdeslaur did a nice job with it I think
[17:45] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: nm
[17:45] <zastern> im also toying with SElinux
[17:45] <sarnold> zastern: the mod is especially nice if you've got a few different applications hosted in your apache, it prevents e.g. a stupid phpbb exploit from getting to your other applications..
[17:45] <zastern> yeah i have many
[17:45] <zastern> we have a single apache cluster that hosts many apps
[18:05] <Aison> when I try to start the isc-dhcpd server, I get this error
[18:05] <Aison> Open a socket for LPF: Permission denied
[18:06] <Aison> how and where do I have to set the rights that dhcpd can open this socket?!?
[18:10] <sarnold> Aison: dmesg | grep DENIED    -- I'm curious if an AppArmor profile on dhcpd is preventing it from getting LPF..
[18:13] <Aison> sarnold, this is the related line
[18:13] <Aison> [ 2860.406625] type=1400 audit(1358532785.500:46): apparmor="DENIED" operation="create" parent=5921 profile="/usr/sbin/dhcpd" pid=6332 comm="dhcpd" family="packet" sock_type="raw" protocol=768
[18:13] <sarnold> Aison: woo :)
[18:14] <Aison> and what now? :P
[18:15] <sarnold> Aison: add "network raw" and "network packet" to your /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.dhcpd file, then run /etc/init.d/apparmor reload
[18:15] <sarnold> "network raw," and "network packet," -- the commas are more important than they should be, hehe
[18:16] <Aison> that's actually in now: network inet raw, network packet packet,
[18:17] <Aison> so these lines are not missing....
[18:17] <sarnold> Aison: remove the 'inet', and one of the 'packet'?
[18:17] <Aison> yeaaah nice one, that's working :D
[18:17] <Aison> I just wounder why these entries where wrong
[18:18] <Aison> I never changed anything like that
[18:21] <Aison> I guess there is a problem with the isc-dhcp-server-4.2.4-4ubuntu1 packet
[18:24] <sarnold> Aison: would you please file a bug against isc-dhcp-server? it might help if you could explain what might be unique about your configuration
[18:25] <Aison> I already reported a bug here, then they fixed it after months :P
[18:25] <Aison> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/1071928
[18:25] <Aison> but the fix contains again a bug, funny ^^
[18:32] <Spindrift> Hello?
[18:32] <Spindrift> check 123
[18:32] <Aison> works
[18:33] <Spindrift> copy. Thx
[18:33] <sarnold> Spindrift: irc tends to work best if you just start asking questions :) hehe
[18:33] <Spindrift> hehe…copy that. thx
[18:33] <RoyK> !ask | Spindrift
[18:36] <Spindrift> I am building a couple mobile incident command rigs with satellite internet/phone that get deployed world-wide. I need a small lightweight file/print server (miniPC, SSD, Linux distro) running Linux to integrate with the printer/scanner/copier so that emergency staff can scan PDFs to a shared network drive. I imagine that Ubuntu Server 12.04 would be a good distro to use for this?
[18:40] <sarnold> Spindrift: yeah; 12.04 LTS has a longer support life than e.g. 12.10, so your deployed units won't need to be replaced with something newer quite as quickly
[18:41] <Spindrift> thanks
[19:35] <stuffthatspins> i have a 12.0.4 server that IPs are ping-able inside the network but not out. no firewall. any ideas where to look?
[19:58] <[conrad]> stuffthatspins: Can you be more specific about the description of "IPs are ping-able inside the network but not out"?
[21:16] <ikonia> window 10
[21:16] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[21:16] <ikonia> window 10
[21:16] <ikonia> ughh, sorry
[22:33] <pewter_tao> It seems ubuntu cloud has updated its packages. Is there a mirror that points to the old ones?
[22:48] <Bilge> How do you enable ipv6 support in the kernel?
[22:52] <sarnold> Bilge: there's a handful of configuration options; the most important is CONFIG_IPV6=y


[01:18] <philipballew> At the Linux Users Group in Tijuana currently.
[01:18] <philipballew> 10 people here currently.
[01:39] <DonkeyHotei> philipballew: any mexican loco presence?
[01:39] <DonkeyHotei> *LoCo
[01:41] <philipballew> DonkeyHotei, I am the Mexican Loco presence here.
[01:42] <philipballew> DonkeyHotei, that being said I do not call it a loco here also.
[01:43] <philipballew> I do not use that word here when talking about the ubuntu community
[02:25] <philipballew> DonkeyHotei, that being said, most all of the Mexico loco stuff is in Mexico City.
[02:26] <philipballew> But there is going to be an ubuntu conference there this summer.
[02:26] <philipballew> http://ubuntumexico.org/node/4962
[02:26] <darthrobot> Title: [Conferencia Ubuntu México | Ubuntu México]


[09:02] <AlexExtreme> great
[09:02] <AlexExtreme> the linux.conf.au website has a video of Scott's upstart talk
[09:08] <_ion> Cool, thanks for pointing that out. And since you didn't feel like giving the URL, http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/102.ogg :-)
[09:08] <AlexExtreme> heh ;)
[09:15] <tiolpxe-> hi can someone please tell me how i can change my runlevel from 5 to 3 using upstream i cant see anything on it
[09:24] <AlexExtreme> upstream?
[09:25] <tiolpxe-> lol i dont know why i said that
[09:25] <tiolpxe-> lol
[09:27] <AlexExtreme> ;)
[09:27] <AlexExtreme> well
[09:27] <AlexExtreme> upstart doesn't use runlevels
[09:28] <tiolpxe-> so ive noticed
[09:30] <tiolpxe-> so am i correct in thinking a telinit 3 will allow me to boot to the cli
[09:30] <AlexExtreme> no
[09:31] <tiolpxe-> is it possible to boot to the cli then?
[09:31] <tiolpxe-> ive read the net with no diffinitive anwers
[09:31] <AlexExtreme> not sure, I don't use ubuntu
[09:32] <tiolpxe-> well ubuntu uses upstart and surely that determines whether it can
[09:32] <AlexExtreme> I don't know, I don't use ubuntu, as I just said
[09:33] <AlexExtreme> gonna disappear for a bit
[09:33] <tiolpxe-> surely this is ubuntu irrelevant
[09:33] <tiolpxe-> im asking an upstart question
[09:37] <_ion> I was just writing an answer.
[09:37] <AlexExtreme> heh
[09:38] <AlexExtreme> I hate it when people don't hang around for an answer... like, they expect an answer to be typed instantaneously :p
[09:46] <AlexExtreme> hah
[09:47] <AlexExtreme> I'm watching the upstart talk, there's a bit where scott's saying what computers were like in the past, starting from 30 years ago. the machine that's pictured for 10 years ago is the exact machine that's my router ;)
[09:47] <_ion> :-)


[08:55] <tata> 請問有人知道DIYbio的IRC channel嗎
[08:56] <tata> 再請問這裡有人嗎
[08:57] <tata> what is your topics?
[08:58] <tata> is there somebody here?
[08:59] <tata> anyone here?
[15:49] <herobrinewu> 安安


[11:07] <CIA-7> wubi: evand * r206 trunk/ (82 files in 2 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[11:10] <cjwatson> bug 747090 is freaking me out; it sometimes goes away when I try to debug it ...
[11:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 747090 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu "No translations in natty" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747090
[11:11] <cjwatson> almost as if there's something timing-dependent, but I'm having real trouble imagining such a thing in gfxboot
[11:33] <CIA-7> casper: evand * r881 casper/ (debian/changelog scripts/casper-bottom/15autologin): Suppress Log Out item in the live session (LP: #750140).
[11:42] <ev> TheMuso`: you appear to have uploaded casper 1.262 without committing it to the branch.  Could you merge those changes in with trunk and release 1.263 when you have a chance?
[11:42] <ev> cjwatson: new wubi build is in place
[11:56] <cjwatson> great, thanks
[11:56] <cjwatson> that's with grub-pc 1.99~rc1-8ubuntu1?
[12:10] <ev> cjwatson: correc
[12:10] <ev> t
[12:10] <cjwatson> good stuff
[12:10] <CIA-7> ubiquity: evand * r4641 trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Bump panel indicators ABI (LP: #745681).
[15:06] <cjwatson> I found a twisted way to get a complete execution trace out of gdb and qemu
[15:08] <cjwatson> 'set remotelogfile gdblog; target remote | qemu -gdb stdio -no-reboot [whatever other arguments you need]; c', then Ctrl-C at some reasonable point, set a breakpoint where you want your execution trace to start, 'c' to that, 'stepi [number of instructions to trace]'; now you have a complete remote protocol dump in gdblog and can do 'grep -A1 '^w +\$g' gdblog | grep ^r | cut -b69-76' to get a sequence of ...
[15:08] <cjwatson> ... (processor-endian) PC values[C[C[C[C
[15:08] <cjwatson> "fast" is not exactly the word for it, but sometimes it can be better than the alternative ...
[15:10] <cjwatson> though it seems to be sitting very slowly tracing over disk interrupts at the moment ...
[17:04] <ev> cjwatson: what is the difference between amd64 and +mac? I tried digging around cdimage/debian-cd a while back but couldn't figure it out
[17:04] <ev> gdb/qemu> awesome!
[17:05] <superm1> ev, the +mac doesn't have the EFI boot record because macs do EFI differently
[17:05] <cjwatson> indeed
[17:05] <cjwatson> I went into it on #ubuntu-devel the other day
[17:06] <cjwatson> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/03/31/%23ubuntu-devel.txt
[17:07] <ev> thanks
[17:13] <cjwatson> ev: which of the beta-targeted ubiquity bugs are you on at the moment?  we should probably avoid duplicate work as time is getting tight
[17:14] <cjwatson> unless you're on it, I'd like to take the various keyboard problems
[17:14] <cjwatson> since I think they're basically my fault
[17:18] <ev> by all means
[17:18] <ev> I've been trying to sort out the flashplugin-installer bug today
[17:18] <ev> as well as fixing some other small ones
[17:19] <ev> oh and the duplicate sources when using the upgrade option
[17:20] <ev> though it's actually more a matter of apt-clone creating its new sources.list over top of the one created by apt-setup (yay)
[17:20] <ev> I've got half a patch to have apt-clone merge into the existing sources.list though
[17:21] <ev> right, back in a few.  Need to test syslinux on real apple metal
[18:22] <highvoltage> just a heads-up, a colleugue installed edubuntu on his laptop and ticked the box that says that the non-free stuff should be installed as well, and the installation failed
[18:22] <highvoltage> I think it has something to do with the shipped debian packages on the DVD (there might be something missing on the edubuntu ship seed)
[18:23] <highvoltage> going to look at it now so that I can get some debug output
[18:33] <ev> highvoltage: quite possibly the flashplugin-installer bug
[18:33] <ev> highvoltage: you'll see traces of that in /var/log/syslog
[18:33] <ev> if it is, I'd very much appreciate knowing what his configuration is
[18:33] <ev> that is what arch
[18:35] <highvoltage> ev: it was amd64
[18:44] <highvoltage> I wish I could make the terminal window in ubiquity slightly larger :)
[18:58] <highvoltage> ev: yep, it is indeed the flashplugin package that fails installing: http://irc.jonathancarter.org/files/temp/syslog
[19:12] <superm1> ev, think it's too late to do the partner enablement and adobe-flashplugin rather than flashplugin-installer from the ubuntu archive for natty then?
[19:15] <cjwatson> it will interact awkwardly with the fact that partner is currently unintentionally turned on, and needs to be turned off before release