[00:00] <libresource> lol
[00:00] <knome> the decision is not as easy as changing your wallpaper on a single installation
[00:00] <knome> imagine that we choose the defaults for thousands - if not tens or hundreds of thousands of users and pc's
[00:01] <knome> i do think that tutorial is good for new users, and i see why a group of people would want to do those modifications
[00:01] <knome> fortunately it only takes 5 minutes, not 5 days
[00:01] <libresource> stability is why is use *buntu, rather than others, so I am beginning to understand #1, thank you for your time
[00:02] <knome> no problem, and enjoy xubuntu
[00:02] <libresource> take care
[01:04] <neodragon> hello I am trying to use xubuntu 12.04 amd64. I successfully installed it and it works fine in the live environment on the disk, but when I go to boot the fresh install for the first time, after the BIOS post it just goes to a blank screen. I have a nvidia gt 430 1GB pci express with an AMD Phenom II X4 with 4GB of RAM, I have installed other distros on it and they work fine
[03:20] <burner> help!  I went to quantal and lost my gtk theme and i can't use hotkeys either... what happened?
[03:20] <knome> lost your gtk theme?
[03:20] <burner> i was using the xfce 4.10 precise ppa before upgrade... think that borked me?
[03:20] <burner> it's back to the default theme... and no matter hwat i change it to, it doesn't change
[03:20] <knome> possibly; that isn't officially supported
[03:23] <knome> burner, did you enable the root account?
[03:23] <xubuntu501> hello every one.....
[03:23] <knome> xubuntu501, hullo
[03:23] <xubuntu501> can I ask a question for help? it is my first time here
[03:24] <knome> xubuntu501, sure; just ask and we'll reply (as soon as we are around) if we know the answer
[03:24] <burner> knome: ?  http://burner.ath.cx/screenshot-quantal.png
[03:25] <knome> burner, if you don't know what i'm talking about, good. enabling the root account will most probably mess the system up. plus, that link doesn't seem to be loading.
[03:25] <knome> burner, maybe try http://imagebin.org/
[03:26] <burner> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/screenshot-quantal.png
[03:26] <burner> it's my dyndns that didn't update
[03:26] <xubuntu501> ok...I just purchases 3 Acer netbooks to dend to friendes un Colombia...they have OSs of Win XP & Win 7, but none have Win 7 Ulyimate and cannot be run in Spanish, so I just burned an Xbuntu 12.04 ISO to install....or run LiveCD first to check it out.
[03:26] <burner> xubuntu501: netbook + live CD?  y not live usb?
[03:27] <knome> burner, that's weird. are you starting the settings manager with root or sth?
[03:27] <knome> burner, err, sudo
[03:27] <xubuntu501> I plugged in an ext DVD drive and hit F2  during Win XP boot up, and changed boot squence to the DVD drive, and saved and escaped. But it still boots into Windows. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[03:28] <knome> xubuntu501, are you sure the image is burned correctly?
[03:29] <burner> knome: i don't think so... how can i just clear it and start over with the settings?  .config somewhere i presume... /me inspects
[03:29]  * burner really wants alt+f2 back
[03:29] <xubuntu501> no I am not sure ther ISO is burned correctly....how can I check?
[03:30] <knome> burner, i'd imagine .config/xfce4 could be a good start. but backup first!
[03:30] <knome> burner, and maybe try delling .cache first too
[03:30] <knome> xubuntu501, in windows, can you see the disc mounted?
[03:30] <knome> xubuntu501, if you browse the files inside the disc, what do you see?
[03:38] <xubuntu501> hi...I burned the ISO on a new iMac....and when I clivk on it in Finder it says it cannot open it because there is "no mountable file system?
[03:39] <xubuntu501> that  was supposed to be quotes, not a question mark
[03:39] <knome> that doesn't sound too good
[03:39] <knome> just to be sure:
[03:40] <xubuntu501> can I do this withn a Mac?  and then use the ISO on a Win machine?
[03:40] <knome> did you select from your burning application to "burn an existing ISO to disc" or something like that?
[03:40] <knome> yes, it shouldn't matter which system burned the iso
[03:41] <xubuntu501> can I burn it on a Mac and use the disc in a PC?
[03:41] <knome> yes
[03:41] <xubuntu501> can I burn the ISO disc opn a Max and use it in a PC?
[03:41] <knome> yes, yes and yes :)
[03:42] <xubuntu501> can I burn the ISO disc on a Mac and use it in a PC?
[03:43] <xubuntu501> can I burn the ISO disc on a Mac and use it in a PC?
[03:43] <knome> yes; please stop repeating
[03:48] <sambagirl> can I burn the ISO disc opn a Max and use it in a PC?
[03:48] <sambagirl> can I burn the ISO disc opn a Max and use it in a PC?
[03:48] <bazhang> sambagirl, dont do that
[03:48]  * sambagirl laughs
[03:49]  * knome looks at sambagirl without a twitch in the face
[03:49] <knome> *blink*
[03:49] <sambagirl> i think knome is undercover spy for kde :D
[03:49] <knome> i don't think so...
[03:50] <sambagirl> what tipped me off was the K instead of G, so that other KDE spies can recognize their undercover spy :D
[04:02] <Viva_Caligula> ./nick Viva_Calikula
[06:23] <Ofloo> hi, I don't know what it is called so I can't really look for it on google, but in freebsd you got these install blue console install screens, .. but for some reason they don't look right using ssh in xubuntu what could be the cause i'm think xterm but i don't see any weird options..
[06:25] <Ofloo> i think it has to do with vt100 and vt102
[06:28] <astraljava> I don't really know either, from that description. What do they do?
[06:29] <Unit193> Type  echo $TERM
[06:30] <Ofloo> Regards, Geekshells
[06:30] <Ofloo> sorry
[06:31] <Ofloo> http://postimage.org/image/5ytxxu3w7/
[06:31] <Ofloo> that's it
[06:31] <Ofloo> the variable is empty
[06:32] <Ofloo> it has always been ok in other consoles but i recently changed to xubuntu and i'm not sure how i can change it
[06:32] <Ofloo> it's like it's missing yellow or something
[06:37] <Unit193> What version are you running?
[06:37] <Ofloo> the latest lts
[06:37] <Ofloo> precise
[06:37] <Ofloo> or something
[06:38] <Unit193> Weird, but you can export that in your .bashrc  export TERM=xterm  or even in /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:38] <Ofloo> it says ubuntu in lsb_release -a but in fact it is xubuntu
[06:38] <Ofloo> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[06:38] <Ofloo> Terminal 0.4.8
[06:39] <Unit193> (Drop the export in the bashrc, that's the command there)
[06:42] <Ofloo> hmm, there is some crap about color in bashrc just disabled and and enabled it but has no effect
[06:43] <Ofloo> well it had effect on the local terminal, .. however how it showed the ssh session didn't change
[06:52] <neodragon> I have installed Xubuntu 12.04 amd64 on my PC with AMD Phenom II X4, nvidia gt 430 1GB video and 4GB of RAM. The install finishes successfully and the trying out the live CD works perfectly, but for some reason when I go to boot into my install for the first time all I get is a blank screen once the BIOS post is complete, when I should be seeing the Xubuntu boot screen. Any help with this would be much appreciated
[06:55] <baizon> neodragon: did you set your partition bootable?
[06:56] <neodragon> yes, in fact in the past if I have ever forgotten to do that I get a boot disk error, which I am not getting in this case
[06:59] <neodragon> my apologies, I forgot a step, when it boots I see th BIOS post and then the grub boot menu and let it pick Xubuntu by default and when it goes to boot inot Xubuntu that when I get the blank screen. Sorry for forgetting that
[07:00] <neodragon> into not inot
[07:03] <baizon> neodragon: ok
[07:04] <baizon> try to edit grub and add nomodeset
[07:04] <baizon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[07:07] <neodragon> baizon: so you think the modesetting on the nvidia card is messing the the boot process
[07:07] <baizon> my xubuntu wasnt booting because of plymouth and graphics drivers
[07:07] <baizon> that fixed my problem
[07:09] <neodragon> OK then I will do that and see how that works, thanks for the link and information
[07:13] <baizon> np
[08:46] <Ofloo> hi been looking for this all week how do i enable this plenty of howto's on how to disable it in ubuntu but how do enable or add this to xubuntu http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/10/17/guest-session-and-user-management-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[08:46] <Ofloo> or at least a button that enables me to launch guest session directly from a user without having to log out then login ..
[08:48] <Sysi> if you lock screen you get button to get to login screen
[08:49] <davidgul> hello
[08:50] <davidgul> i have ubuntu server and i install xubuntu desktop on it but i wont to remove the auto login screen so i can login from the console and then start xfce or just work in the console
[08:51] <Sysi> davidgul: sudo apt-get purge lightdm
[08:51] <davidgul> Sysi : thank you very much
[08:52] <Sysi> np
[09:56] <davidgul> hi guys
[09:57] <davidgul> how can i remove xorg with xfce from my system ?
[09:58] <codemaniac> hi davidgul
[09:58] <knome> davidgul, do you understand that wouuld mean there is *no* graphical interface at all on your system?
[09:58] <davidgul> knome : this is what i wont
[09:59] <davidgul> i wont to use consul only
[09:59] <knome> davidgul, in that case, just remove the "xorg" package
[09:59] <Sysi> !purekde
[10:00] <knome> Sysi, wait... what? :D
[10:00] <Sysi> there's a line for removing entire xubuntu desktop
[10:00] <Sysi> though just xfce packages is much less
[10:01] <knome> Sysi, that doesn't seem to uninstall xorg though
[10:01] <davidgul> ubottu : this is the error i gut The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gcj-jre : Depends: gcj-4.6-jre (>= 4.6.3-1~) but it is not going to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[10:01] <Sysi> there are tons of xorg packages, I don't know how many of them will be removed as dependencies
[10:02] <knome> i'd imagine not even the core; you are just purging the *DE* :)
[10:03] <Sysi> yeah, you need to remove xorg separately but if you want totally rid of DE
[10:05] <Sysi> I have 4.8 on fedora and I've had several crashes
[10:06] <Sysi> aannd wrong channel
[10:07] <knome> heh :)
[10:34] <xubuntu257> hello
[10:34] <xubuntu257> is tehere anyone here ?
[10:34] <sagaci> yup
[10:34] <xubuntu257> ah cool !
[10:34] <xubuntu257> english speaker ?
[10:35] <TheSheep> we only speak english hee
[10:35] <TheSheep> here
[10:35] <xubuntu257> alright
[10:35] <xubuntu257> (I'm french)
[10:35] <xubuntu257> Could you help me out  ?
[10:35] <TheSheep> nope
[10:35] <TheSheep> we don't know what is the problem
[10:36] <aquix> and barely so :p
[10:36] <xubuntu257> I'm trying to install voyager and I'm encountering small problems
[10:37] <TheSheep> you need to describe your problems, then, if anybody knows the solution, they will tell you
[10:37] <xubuntu257> first of wich is that it's taking forever, I'm not sure wether it's normal
[10:37] <TheSheep> what is taking forever?
[10:38] <xubuntu257> the install
[10:39] <TheSheep> is it any particular step that is slow?
[10:40] <xubuntu257> yes, the step after the part where you choose the password for the main user
[10:41] <TheSheep> is it when it is downloading upgrades from the internet?
[10:42] <xubuntu257> then it launches a window that tells you how great voyager is (which it actually is), but it's been showing that window forever
[10:42] <xubuntu257> and the thing is, I'm actually able to use the PC, since I'm connected to this chan with it
[10:42] <TheSheep> wait, voyager?
[10:42] <xubuntu257> yep
[10:42] <TheSheep> what is that?
[10:43] <xubuntu257> http://voyager.legtux.org/
[10:45] <xubuntu257> don't you know that version ?
[10:45] <TheSheep> no, first time I hear about it
[10:45] <TheSheep> looks like they took xubuntu and modified it
[10:45] <xubuntu257> exactly
[10:45] <xubuntu257> it's pretty nice
[10:46] <xubuntu257> and usually it work just fine
[10:46] <xubuntu257> but here, I'm doing it for a friend, on her Eee PC
[10:46] <knome> xubuntu257, voyager is not supported in this channel, because it is not a xubuntu "product"
[10:47] <xubuntu257> I did it a few days ago, but then something went wrong as she was using it : her password is not recognized anymore, so I started re-installing
[10:47] <Ofloo> ?
[10:47] <knome> Ofloo?
[10:47] <Ofloo> isn't it just xubuntu with some theme?
[10:47] <xubuntu257> ok then, I'll go somewhere else, soory lads and have a nice one
[10:48] <TheSheep> xubuntu257: wait
[10:48] <xubuntu257> ok*
[10:48] <xubuntu257> i'll wait :)
[10:48] <TheSheep> xubuntu257: we can't help with the modifications they did, but if it's still mostly xubuntu, then what we know will still apply
[10:49] <xubuntu257> that's what i thought, but i'm kind of newbie on linux
[10:49] <Ofloo> are you doing a migration?
[10:49] <knome> Ofloo, i think voyager also does some other modifications, but the general policy is that xubuntu derivatives aren't *officially* supported
[10:49] <xubuntu257> no, complete instll
[10:49] <Ofloo> cause i'm doing an migration of xubuntu from 11 to 12 and it's stuck as well
[10:49] <Ofloo> while new install worked just fine
[10:49] <knome> Ofloo, note that the .xx in the version number is also meaningful
[10:49] <Ofloo> migration maybe upgrade is better
[10:50] <Ofloo> knome: i was just wondering
[10:50] <knome> eg. there is no "xubuntu 11", it's either "xubuntu 11.04" or "xubuntu 11.10" :)
[10:50] <Ofloo> i beleve it was .10
[10:50] <Ofloo> but it doesn't matter i'll just do a clean install
[10:50] <Ofloo> not really looking for support on that though
[10:50] <knome> upgrade should work too though
[10:51] <xubuntu257> i had a migration problem too last month, but I forced it (shut down brutally when it was stuck, and it started just fine after that)
[10:51] <Ofloo> oh, .. right
[10:51] <Ofloo> bbs going to cut the power :p
[10:51] <TheSheep> xubuntu257: that doesn't sound too good, maybe there is a hardware problem?
[10:51] <xubuntu257> maybe, dunno
[10:51] <xubuntu257> i was given the computer on which i did it
[10:51] <TheSheep> xubuntu257: can you open a terminal, or do you need to wait for the install to finish?
[10:52] <xubuntu257> some old geezer was using it for "weird" activities
[10:52] <xubuntu257> it's actually just finished now, a window just popped up
[10:53] <xubuntu257> so I guess I bothered you for nothing...
[10:53] <xubuntu257> sorry, my bad
[10:53] <xubuntu257> but it still took forever, maybe the eeepc is a bit "weak"
[10:54] <knome> the eeepc's aren't the most powerful, but even then, stuff should go through if you just wait
[10:54] <TheSheep> eeepc are usually rather slow
[10:54] <xubuntu257> i'm gonna have to leave, i need to restart the system, but thank you (really) for your time and help
[10:55] <TheSheep> no problem, good luck
[10:55] <xubuntu257> you should take a look at "voyager", it really is a pretty cool system
[10:55] <xubuntu257> cheers !!!!
[14:07] <knome> Xubuntu community meeting in about an hour at #xubuntu-devel. Everybody welcome! Agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[14:36] <xubuntu476> hola alguien lee estas lineas?
[14:38] <Pici> !es | xubuntu476
[14:40] <xubuntu476> thanks! I not speak english very well
[14:46] <Viva_Caligula> lame, ##linux requires a registered nick
[14:46] <Viva_Caligula> I don't some to freenode enough to justify it
[14:46] <knome> Viva_Caligula, this is not the correct place to complain about it
[14:47] <Viva_Caligula> just a comment
[14:47] <Viva_Caligula> nickserv here doesn't have glist and group o_O
[14:49] <en1gma> how do you remaster a live xubuntu cd from an installed xubuntu hdd install?
[14:50] <en1gma> there is a program called remastersys but it dont work with xubuntu and its WM
[14:51] <Viva_Caligula> you need the .iso of an install disk
[14:51] <en1gma> and then chroot into that?
[14:51] <en1gma> is there a good guide on how to do this with xubunut?
[14:52] <Viva_Caligula> trying searching with ubuntu, you'll get more hits and the same things apply
[14:52] <en1gma> when i search with ubuntu i get an app called remastersys
[14:53] <en1gma> and it dont work with xubuntu
[14:53] <Viva_Caligula> if it'll run under ubuntu, it runs in xubuntu as well
[14:53] <en1gma> nope
[14:53] <en1gma> i already checked thats why im here
[14:53] <en1gma> something to do with its WM
[14:54] <Viva_Caligula> is it in the repository, or is it a program you found in some random place?
[14:54] <en1gma> its a program with an irc channel. its called "Remastersys"
[14:54] <Viva_Caligula> that's not what I asked
[14:54] <en1gma> its well known but xubuntu WM breaks it
[14:55] <en1gma> there is nothing in xubuntu repor that remasters isos that i am aware of? are you?
[14:57] <en1gma> if i switch to ubuntu ot kubuntu i wont have this problem (remastersys) will work but i really dont like unity or kde
[15:22] <vanagon> Hi, I have a bluetooth headset paired as a "headset device", and shows up as being correctly connected in blueman.  However, the device doesn't show up in pavucontrol.  How is a headset configured under Xubuntu?  (I want to use it for skype.)  Thanks for any help!!
[15:24] <holstein> vanagon: i would just try configuring in skype.. does it show there?
[15:24] <vanagon> no, it just takes me to pulseaudio setings
[15:24] <vanagon> (annoying, since it let's me configure a usb webcam directly)
[15:25] <holstein> it?.. in skype you get re-directed to pulseaudio setting?
[15:26] <holstein> interesting... i do not have any bluetooth hardware to test with on the PC...
[15:27] <vanagon> yes, under skype configuration, the sound section just has buttons to open the pulseaudio volume control.
[15:29] <holstein> i suppose i would try and take skype out of the equation.. i would try and get the BT working somewhere else first
[15:30] <vanagon> it doesn't work anywhere, in the sense that the pulseaudio system doesn't recognize it.  I can't use it as an input/output device for any sound.
[15:30] <vanagon> I'm starting to wonder whether 12.04 works with bluetooth headsets at all.  I'm finding some forum posts with the same problem, and have yet to see a report where someone has it working...
[15:31] <holstein> i would trust no reports.. one issue is, maybe neither you nor i understand how to configure BT in XFCE.. i know i dont since i dont have the hardware
[15:32] <holstein> i might consider trying the main ubuntu live CD just to see what it looks like ther
[15:32] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107277/how-do-i-switch-to-another-audio-output-sink-in-xfce sure makes it seem like the BT device will be in pavucontrol
[15:33] <holstein> how about in the terminal when you run aplay -l or arecord -l ?
[15:33] <vanagon> good idea.  That doesn't list it either.
[15:34] <vanagon> So maybe this is not a problem with pulseaudio then?
[15:34] <holstein> then, i suppose it could be not pairing, or showing up...
[15:34] <holstein> vanagon: im ust throwing out some troubleshootin ideas.. i dont have any good thoughts on what it could be yet
[15:34] <vanagon> yeah, but blueman is showing it with a good connection.  It even shows a bit rate!
[15:35] <holstein> vanagon: ive been meaning to grab some BT usb device so i can test and be more helpful
[15:35] <vanagon> of course!  I appreciate it
[15:35] <vanagon> sure.  Or maybe someone will pipe in that has a device hooked up already...
[15:35] <GridCube> vanagon, you could try to install gnome-bluetooth using --no-install-recommend from apt-get and see if it works
[15:37] <en1gma> i cant believe i have to dload and install ubuntu because remastersys dont work with xubuntu because of its WM. it would be great if someone would get with the peopke in #remastersys and get this fixed so i wouldnt have to use crappy unity
[15:37] <vanagon> GridCube: trying it now
[15:37] <vanagon> GridCube: do you know how I run this thing?
[15:38] <GridCube> it should be under configuration or accesories
[15:38] <holstein> en1gma: maybe you can volunteer :)
[15:38] <GridCube> but i imagine it wont launch sadly, it deppends on gnome too much
[15:38] <vanagon> yeah didn't run
[15:38] <holstein> vanagon: you can try launching from the terminal and seeing the errors
[15:39] <GridCube> blueman does recognises it vanagon ?
[15:39] <vanagon> I think I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of getting this to run since its a dependency issue
[15:39] <en1gma> holstein im doing my part. im trying to get someone from here to talk to peoplle in #remastersys to get remastersys working with xubuntu
[15:40] <vanagon> yeah blueman pairs the device and shows it as having a good connection
[15:40] <en1gma> its stupid to have to switch distros because xubuntu is the only one it dont work with
[15:40] <GridCube> en1gma, why is that?
[15:40] <en1gma> when i talked to the devs in #remastersys they say it is because of xubuntu default WM
[15:40] <en1gma> and they will no longer try to get it working
[15:41] <GridCube> O_o
[15:41] <holstein> en1gma: you are from here... its not something i would expect this team to be able to deal with.. the UI is XFCE.. XFCE is quite standard
[15:41] <en1gma> so i guess that means that xubuntu and its default WM is the problem and not theirs
[15:41] <holstein> i know remastersys used to work with LXDE just fine
[15:41] <en1gma> it works with all distros fne. its just xubuntu
[15:42] <en1gma> so xubuntu and its default WM must be doing something not standard
[15:42] <holstein> en1gma: its just XFCE.. you can literally install debian, and XFCE and try it.. then go back to them and report
[15:42] <en1gma> like i said the default WM
[15:42] <holstein> en1gma: you can also just run XFCE.. pure XFCE right now
[15:42] <holstein> en1gma: XFCE *is* the default WM
[15:42] <en1gma> right
[15:43] <en1gma> its broke
[15:43] <holstein> you can remove xubuntu from the equation, and run XFCE ontop of what you'd like... test remastersys, and then you can report to them that it is XFCE
[15:43] <en1gma> its either broke or remastersys is broke and from what i learned its not remastersys
[15:43] <en1gma> i think they know already
[15:44] <holstein> en1gma: i would suspect there is nothing broken about either one.
[15:44] <en1gma> as they are the ones that told me it was the default wM
[15:44] <holstein> en1gma: they know that its not xubuntu? that it is an incompatibility with remastersys and XFCE?
[15:44] <en1gma> like i said they told me its the default WM. if i install another WM it will work
[15:45] <holstein> en1gma: if you install just plain XFCE, it will work?
[15:45] <en1gma> im not sure. they acted like it was a big problem. so im dloading ubuntu.
[15:45] <en1gma> i never did a remastersys before so i not sure what to do
[15:45] <holstein> en1gma: they? the remastersys devs?
[15:45] <en1gma> yea
[15:46] <holstein> en1gma: i would try and determine if it is indeed xubuntu or XFCE
[15:46] <Viva_Caligula> is this program in the repositories?
[15:46] <en1gma> its XFCE but since xubutnu uses it as default xubuntu isnt supported
[15:46] <en1gma> its in ubuntu repos
[15:46] <holstein> en1gma: i would confirm that.. see if plain xfce works
[15:46] <en1gma> it should be in xubuntu? right now im in windows getting ubuntu
[15:47] <en1gma> i will aks the devs
[15:47] <bazhang> !info remastersys
[15:47] <bazhang> it's not in the repos
[15:47] <bazhang> it's a PPA
[15:47] <holstein> yeah.. its been gone for a while... its been "funky" for a while and not very well supported
[15:48] <en1gma> ahh
[15:48] <holstein> en1gma: i would suggest trying with XFCE.. in whatever distro you or the remastersys devs suggest... then you can remove xubuntu from the equation and understand why its not really something the xubuntu team can deal with
[15:48] <bazhang> just install the package ubuntu-desktop, no need to install the separate ubuntu iso
[15:48] <Viva_Caligula> oem-config-remaster is the package, right?
[15:49] <bazhang> no
[15:49] <en1gma> ok so i will try to install xubuntu one more time and get remastersys but what do i do after i get xubuntu instaled this time? do i make it pure xfce?
[15:49] <Viva_Caligula> that's the onlt that shows up when i search for "remaster"
[15:49] <en1gma> http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu.html
[15:49] <holstein> en1gma: i would suggest going to the remastersys channel and install *whatever* os they suggest for XCE support.. if it works, you'll know its just a xubuntu issue
[15:49] <bazhang> en1gma, please dont crosspost to multiple ubuntu support channels
[15:50] <holstein> XFCE*
[15:50] <Viva_Caligula> That has nothing to do with what I asked
[15:50] <en1gma> bazhang are you talking about the post i made in ubuntu 15mins ago and a 1000 lines of code has went by since then?
[15:51] <en1gma> so i came here?
[15:51] <bazhang> Viva_Caligula, thats not the package. remastersys is a PPA prepared by the remastersys people
[15:51] <holstein> en1gma: doesnt really matter what bazhang is referring to.. its a suggestiong and good
[15:51] <bazhang> en1gma, no, the one just a couple of minutes ago.
[15:51] <holstein> practice
[15:52] <en1gma> yea i know if i was spamming all channels but this is irc and one line about 15mins ago has nothing to do with this channel current
[15:52] <Viva_Caligula> So it's not in the repository then -_-
[15:52] <holstein> en1gma: cool... just keep it in mind as you post..
[15:52] <en1gma> couple mins ago i did "!info remastersys"
[15:52] <en1gma> i always do
[15:52] <Viva_Caligula> i was afk on the other computer
[15:52] <en1gma> anyhow back on topic
[15:53] <en1gma> i gonna install xubuntu amd 64 desktop and i should make xfce pure?
[15:53] <Viva_Caligula> when you login, just start an xfce session instead of a xubuntu session
[15:54] <holstein> en1gma: i would ask remastersys how you are to make an XFCE based remaster.. if xubuntu didnt work, i would expect it not to work.. i would remove xubuntu from the euqaation
[15:54] <Viva_Caligula> that'll have the same effect as xfce without xubuntu packages on ubuntu
[15:54] <en1gma> holstein you told me earlier to make it pure and it might work
[15:54] <holstein> en1gma: if you are being told "its xubuntu's fault" i challenge that with "ok, then how do i make an XFCE remaster"
[15:55] <en1gma> i said 100x already that they said it was "XUBUNTU DEFAULT WM"
[15:55] <holstein> en1gma: OK... and what was the suggested way to make an XFCE base remaster?
[15:55] <en1gma> they said to switch WM
[15:56] <holstein> en1gma: AH, so its not xubuntu? its an XFCE issue?
[15:56] <Viva_Caligula> en1gma: that's xfce, neither is broken per se, they just aren't compatible with one another
[15:56] <en1gma> i never siad it was xubuntu
[15:56] <en1gma> only xubuntu wont be supported
[15:56] <holstein> en1gma: xubuntu or XFCE?
[15:57] <Viva_Caligula> you can install gnome on xubuntu if you want, you can piclk a gnome session at login
[15:57] <en1gma> xubuntu is not supported because of its default WM
[15:57] <Viva_Caligula> *pick
[15:57] <holstein> en1gma: so, all of XFCE then? all XFCE based distros? including xubuntu? and debian testing?
[15:57] <en1gma> i think they said get gnome 2.x or something
[15:58] <en1gma> testing is never supported is it?
[15:58] <Viva_Caligula> I've seen arch based distros with xfce as the deault even
[15:58] <Viva_Caligula> what about those?
[15:58] <en1gma> how about the devs here tell me how to make a remaster/backup live cd so i dont have to use remastersys
[15:58] <bazhang> I'm on the remastersys homepage
[15:58] <en1gma> post the script somewhere
[15:59] <GridCube> Viva_Caligula, if the problem seems to be with xfce, what help does that will bring him?
[15:59] <bazhang> there is nothing about using gnome2 only. they have a repo for precise, in fact which is gnome3
[15:59] <GridCube> en1gma, im sorry but if they dont want to work with xfce, one of the 3 more popular dm out there, then thats their problem
[15:59] <en1gma> i made a custom live cd (bt5r2) using a couple different scripts awhile back
[15:59] <Viva_Caligula> I wasn'ting asking for him to try them, I was asking if they're supported
[16:00] <en1gma> basically i told them i have xubuntu and they told me xubuntu is not supported because of the default WM
[16:00] <en1gma> they siad if i install another WM it will work
[16:00] <Viva_Caligula> en1gma: There are several programs on the repositories that do what that one does
[16:00] <GridCube> en1gma, if you dont like Unity you can go and grab some other distro like mint that has mate or any other wm and try them
[16:00] <Viva_Caligula> *in
[16:00] <GridCube> its not our fault that they are not willing to make it work, sorry
[16:01] <en1gma> either way i like xubuntu and there is no way to remaster the live cd?
[16:01] <en1gma> thats all i really want
[16:01] <GridCube> !costumcd
[16:01] <bazhang> !remaster
[16:01] <holstein> en1gma: i dont mean to be combatitive... the only point im making is, its not a xubuntu issue, its an XFCE and remastersys issue.. and the xubuntu team wont be able to address those inconsistencies
[16:01] <GridCube> !customlivecd
[16:02] <en1gma> smaybe if the xubuntu team told xfce devs there is a problem maybe they can fix it.
[16:02] <Viva_Caligula> oem-config-remaster
[16:02] <en1gma> have any of you made/done the remaster live cd?
[16:03] <en1gma> just want to make sure i do the right one
[16:03] <Viva_Caligula> It's not the problem of the GUI that a certain program doesn't work in it
[16:03] <holstein> en1gma: sure.. if something was broken, but its not.. its a compatibility issue.. niether are broken
[16:03] <knome> if you can pinpoint the problem, please file a bug and post the bug number to #xubuntu-devel
[16:03] <en1gma> ok maybe if someone here would tell xfce team there is a compat issue maybe they can fix it
[16:03] <en1gma> im pretty sure the makers of remastersys have done that
[16:04] <holstein> en1gma: there is nothing imcomatible here... it'll need to be the remastersys team that becomes compatible with current XFCE and gtk3 or whatever the issue is
[16:04] <en1gma> it looks like the people with remastersys will keep on saying xubuntu is not supported then
[16:05] <holstein> en1gma: sure... and theres nothing xubuntu can do to "fix" that.. the team cannot "fix" all the projects... expecially those that have been dropped from the repos
[16:06] <en1gma> maybe that project was dropped because they say xubuntu is not supported
[16:06] <holstein> en1gma: i would explore other more supported avenues of creating live CD's... consider trying to be a liason for the remastersys team and whoever upstream they could speak with
[16:06] <en1gma> :)
[16:06] <en1gma> im gonna try xubuntu with a different UI first and hope that will work
[16:07] <en1gma> but if im gonna do that shouldnt i just use ubuntu
[16:07] <holstein> en1gma: i would ask them... the xubuntu team didnt drop it from the repos... it would have been dropped upstream
[16:07] <en1gma> the whole thing about xubuntu is its UI isnt it?
[16:08] <en1gma> ok i gonna reboot and install xubuntu and fool around with remastersys and see if i can try and get it to work with xfce pure or something
[16:08] <holstein> en1gma: you can use ubuntu if you like... xubuntu is ubuntu... but if you want XFCE support in remastersys, you'll need to ask them for it
[16:08] <en1gma> k
[16:09] <en1gma> i actually love xubuntu. its the cloest thing to ubuntu used to be that i have found
[16:09] <en1gma> i hate unity
[16:09] <en1gma> lol
[16:09] <en1gma> kubuntu is to bloated
[16:09] <bazhang> !ot
[16:10] <en1gma> ok i gonna do some testing
[16:10] <en1gma> thanks for the suggestion
[16:10] <en1gma> s
[17:12] <Kenshizl> Can anyone help me? I'm having a problem with my xubuntu desktop.
[17:13] <TheSheep> Kenshizl: you have to describe your problem and if anybody knows the solution they will answer
[17:18] <Kenshizl> Sorry for the long paragraph thing.
[17:20] <TheSheep> nothing appeared, you just disconnected
[17:24] <memememe> hi there
[17:26] <Kenshizl> Did anyone get my paragraph thing? I am having some issues with my IRC thing.
[17:43] <memememe> could anyone please help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2040883?
[17:43] <Ofloo> lol i only noticed this just now
[17:43] <Ofloo> all the youtube faces are blue as wel?
[17:44] <moonshiner24mUK> im having trouble connecting a midi keyboard
[17:44] <moonshiner24mUK> physicaly it plugs in just fine
[17:44] <TheSheep> memememe: that is probably a question for ##hardware
[17:44] <memememe> mrm
[17:44] <Ofloo> moonshiner24mUK: what you using as interface
[17:44] <moonshiner24mUK> where to?
[17:44] <Ofloo> usb to midi?
[17:45] <knome> or #ubuntustudio might be able to help too
[17:45] <moonshiner24mUK> yes ofloo
[17:45] <Ofloo> i once had this midi thing that didn't work turned out i plugged the in in the out and out in the in if you know what i mean
[17:45] <Ofloo> try turning them arround
[17:45] <Ofloo> took a while before i noticed
[17:45] <Ofloo> because they had this confusing in/out on the plugs
[17:46] <Ofloo> and at some point i was like you know what lets just see what happens
[17:46] <Ofloo> and it worked
[17:46] <Ofloo> :/
[17:46] <Ofloo> -_-
[17:46] <Ofloo> so ..
[17:46] <Ofloo> mÃaybe you should give it a shot
[17:47] <Ofloo> brb got to reboot to fix this blue head thing
[17:59] <Ofloo> yay fixed
[18:07] <memememe> I have updated my post, link is the same as before
[18:07] <memememe> http://laptops.productwiki.com/clevo-m770sun/ also says "up to 4GB RAM DDR2", then why the initial 12 listed per command?
[18:08] <memememe> can anyone explain that to me?
[18:31] <craigbass1976> In Gnome 2, I could have one window open and another behind it.  I could hover over the back window and scoll with the mouse wheel, but it would stay in back.  Is it possible to do that in xubuntu as well?  Right now, the back window will come up front and be in focus when I scroll over it.
[18:40] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: you can make them not raise when they receive focus
[18:40] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: but they will still become focused
[18:53] <recon69_lap> hi all, I'm trying to setup ssh with rsa, trying to copy the id_rsa.pub to  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server but says the file does not exist. am i missing some step?
[18:56] <recon69_lap> never mind, I just needed to create the dir .ssh
[19:07] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, no way to shut that off?
[19:13] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: to shut what off? the fact that a window becomes active when clicked? no...
[19:14] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, , No, just when hovered over while the scroll wheel spins.
[19:15] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: the scroll wheel counts as clicks
[19:16] <craigbass1976> Aha...
[19:39] <Sysi> TheSheep: you can disable that actually, window manager tweaks >> accessibility >> all mouse buttons activate window
[19:40] <TheSheep> Sysi: but it doesn't work, I tried
[19:40] <Sysi> I'll test..
[19:41] <TheSheep> Sysi: oh, I tried the one in window manager >> focus
[19:41] <TheSheep> Sysi: I missed the one you are talking about, shame the guy left :(
[19:42] <TheSheep> I wonder why the 'tweaks' settings are *still* not integrated into the window manager settings
[20:07] <vv00b> Hello?
[20:07] <TheSheep> !hi | vv00b
[20:08] <vv00b> Test
[20:08] <TheSheep> failed
[20:08] <vv00b> Sorry, im just trying to get use to irssi
[20:09] <TheSheep> I wonder if there are testing channels, such as #test, that you could use without disturbing anyone
[20:09] <TheSheep> not that I'm particularly disturbed
[20:10] <vv00b> Well, its not like this is a hotspot for conversation or anything. but i did say i was sorry
[20:10] <xubuntu825> hello
[20:10] <xubuntu825> have a question about xfce4-terminal <defunct>
[20:10] <xubuntu825> is there a fix for it?
[20:11] <xubuntu825> guess not
[20:36] <cr1st0> Ubuntu is for tablets ?
[20:37] <aquix> better be, unity on the desktop is useless
[20:37] <pleia2> aquix: this really isn't the place for that
[20:37] <cr1st0> Is this the nonfreenode?
[20:38] <Sysi> there's arm-image available for mainbuntu
[20:38] <Sysi> cr1st0: no, this is xubuntu support channel in freenode
[20:40] <cr1st0> Win 8 and ubuntu with unity sitting ona tree...
[20:41] <knome> cr1st0, if you don't have a support question, please take the offtopic discussion elsewhere
[20:51] <xubuntu411> Hi there, how do I make the laptop go to standby when the lid is closed ?
[20:56] <Sysi> xubuntu411: power managment settings should have that
[20:58] <xubuntu411> power management settings comes out as blank.
[21:00] <xubuntu411> Unable to connect to Xfce Power Manager: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[21:11] <martinphone> what tool can I use to get a graphic of internet bandwidth in/out for a period of 30 hours or more?
[21:12] <martinphone> I want to check how my internet provider works
[21:28] <stratoka> hi all, i wanted to ask that the alfa buld of 12.10 is stable enough for a desktop system?
[21:28] <knome> stratoka, don't use it if it's a production machine
[21:29] <stratoka> its a home machine, i`d like to test it
[21:29] <stratoka> i`we read that is pretty stable
[21:30] <knome> take backups and note that it *can* fail
[21:30] <stratoka> ok, thank you foryour time
[21:31] <knome> no problem, have fun and good luck
[23:16] <martinphone> what tool can I use to get a graphic of internet bandwidth in/out for a period of 30 hours or more?
[23:20] <holstein> !info ifstat
[23:21] <holstein> maybe http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ntm-network-traffic-monitor.html
[23:22] <holstein> !info netspeed
[23:24] <holstein> !info nethogs
[23:29] <GridCube> !info wireshark
[23:30] <martinphone> thanks, ill try every one
[23:31] <GridCube> wireshark is the... graphic most one? i suppose martinphone
[23:31] <martinphone> is wireshark necessary? its 63mb
[23:32] <GridCube> dunno
[23:32] <GridCube> the others migh be simplier
[23:32] <martinphone> and if I use xfce and thats kde...
[23:32] <GridCube> it says "gtk+ version" so no kde
[23:32] <martinphone> oops
[23:33] <martinphone> i like ifstat, but it wont work for 30 hours, given the limited ammount of lines the terminal remembers
[23:34] <GridCube> you could > it to a file
[23:35] <martinphone> how GridCube ?
[23:35] <GridCube> something something > /path/to/log.file
[23:35] <GridCube> it dumps the stuff to the log.file
[23:36] <GridCube> it works with any bash command
[23:36] <GridCube> (it also works on any DOS terminal as well)
[23:36] <martinphone> im a bash idiot
[23:36] <GridCube> :)
[23:37] <GridCube> we all learn one day
[23:37] <martinphone> how many lines does the terminal anyway? can I increase the number?
[23:37] <martinphone> the terminal remember anyway
[23:37] <GridCube> sure, in xfce4-terminal its default to 1000
[23:39] <GridCube> but dumping to a file is actually smarter
[23:39] <GridCube> http://imagebin.org/224696
[23:39] <martinphone> yes...
[23:40] <GridCube> martinphone, try it, do ls > ls.log
[23:40] <GridCube> and check the ls.log file you just created :D
[23:42] <martinphone> ls.log lists every file and folder of my home dir
[23:42] <GridCube> :D
[23:42] <GridCube> because it dumped all the output of ls to the ls.log file
[23:42] <GridCube> you can do the same with any terminal commands
[23:43] <martinphone> a now I get it.. ls -l
[23:43] <GridCube> if you do >> it will append the outputs to the file instead of replacing it
[23:44] <martinphone> GridCube, if I leave the laptop on for 30 hours and at the end of that period of time I execute ifstat > ifstat.log, will it print all lines since minute 0:00?
[23:44] <GridCube> no
[23:44] <GridCube> you need to have it running from the begining
[23:45] <GridCube> it will save stuff all the time it runs
[23:45] <GridCube> then at the 30's hour you can check it  all what you want
[23:45] <martinphone> ok, I executed ifstat > ifstat.log and terminal doesnt resolve, it means it is recording, right?
[23:45] <GridCube> yes it should
[23:46] <martinphone> sweet it works
[23:46] <GridCube> you can see the file grow by the way
[23:46] <martinphone> thx
[23:46] <martinphone> just did so
[23:46] <GridCube> so i guess you can tail it, but i never used tail
[23:47] <martinphone> this one is enough, noob needs to ask: if I shut the ifstat active window, ifstat.log will stop recording...
[23:47] <GridCube> so yeah, on other terminal you could: tail ifstat.log
[23:47] <GridCube> and it should show you the last 10 lines or so
[23:50] <GridCube> no, i dont know how tail works :(
[23:51] <GridCube> martinphone, yes it will stop
[23:51] <GridCube> launch it from a tty and it should be safe from accidental closings


[08:31] <eoli3n> Hi
[08:38] <eoli3n> As said few days ago : 14:40 +R0Ck3R
[08:38] <eoli3n> 15:44 +mbond
[08:38] <eoli3n> 16:33 -mbond
[08:38] <eoli3n> 19:00 abbe_>abbe
[08:38] <eoli3n> 19:35 +mbond
[08:39] <eoli3n> sorry for this, wrong paste :/
[08:40] <eoli3n> so as said few days ago about this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1882232
[08:40] <eoli3n> snap packages can't work with mounted homes
[08:40] <eoli3n> we use nfs homes
[08:41] <eoli3n> cannot open path of the current working directory: Permission denied
[08:42] <eoli3n> i think zyga said me that he could fix this
[08:46] <zyga> eoli3n: o/
[08:46] <zyga> I'm a bit indisposed lately
[08:47] <zyga> eoli3n: can you please tell me where you mount nfs homes?
[08:48] <eoli3n> under /home
[08:48] <zyga> directly in /home/foo or in a deeper structure?
[08:49] <zyga> eoli3n: can you show me how the mount is declared in either /etc/fstab or in a systemd mount unit please
[08:55] <eoli3n> zyga its mounted with autofs
[08:55] <eoli3n> prodpeda-samba.domain.fr:/home/p00000012366 on /home/p00000012366 type nfs4 (rw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,namlen=255,soft,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=<IP_ADDRESS>,local_lock=none,addr=<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:56] <zyga> eoli3n: can you paste the fstab line as well please
[08:56] <zyga> this is what we use for detection
[08:56] <zyga> *detection
[08:56] <eoli3n> there is no fstab line
[08:56] <eoli3n> i use autofs
[08:56] <zyga> ah, I see
[08:57] <zyga> I'm not familiar with autofs, how does it work?
[08:57] <eoli3n> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs#Wildcard_characters
[08:58] <eoli3n> but i don't get what information you need ?
[08:58] <eoli3n> autofs mount a directory when it is accessed
[08:58] <zyga> snapd has a global flag that indicates if NFS/CIFS workaround should be enabled
[08:58] <zyga> we use two data sources for that
[08:58] <zyga> we scan /etc/fstab
[08:58] <zyga> and we scan actually mounted filesystems
[08:58] <eoli3n> oh ok i get what you mean
[08:59] <zyga> I'm looking for something that indicates that autofs is in use
[08:59] <zyga> so the data is defined in /etc/auto.master?
[08:59] <zyga> could you please pastebin /proc/self/mountinfo
[08:59] <zyga> perhaps there's an automount mount point in place
[08:59] <zyga> that would be useful to detect as well
[09:01] <eoli3n> zyga: http://ix.io/2qtb
[09:01] <zyga> aha
[09:01] <zyga> 137 29 0:50 / /home rw,relatime shared:87 - autofs /etc/auto.master.d/home rw,fd=7,pgrp=22588,timeout=300,minproto=5,maxproto=5,indirect,pipe_ino=173399
[09:01] <zyga> this is interesting
[09:01] <zyga> so we can detect that
[09:01] <zyga> I think that's enough for me to fix this now
[09:01] <eoli3n> not really
[09:01] <eoli3n> because filename could change
[09:01] <eoli3n> there is no rules to be sure that autofs manage homes
[09:01] <zyga> having an autofs on /home feels like a good enough flag
[09:01] <eoli3n> yes
[09:02] <zyga> and /etc/auto.master.d/home, does that mention nfs?
[09:02] <eoli3n> is there anyworkaround to manually indicates to snapd that i use nfs homes ?
[09:02] <zyga> no, not at present
[09:02] <eoli3n> zyga see my first paste line
[09:02] <zyga> ah, I see now, thank you :)
[09:03] <zyga> I'm curious to ask about /net as well
[09:03] <zyga> the /net directory is not something that will work with snaps
[09:03] <zyga> is that a common convention?
[09:03] <eoli3n> that's nfs installed applications
[09:03] <zyga> I see
[09:07] <zyga> eoli3n: I've updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1784774 and marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1821193 as duplicate
[09:08] <eoli3n> thanks zyga
[09:27] <zyga> eoli3n: fixed
[09:28] <zyga> eoli3n: except github 500s
[09:30] <zyga> eoli3n: I'll open the pull request once github is operational
[10:11] <zyga> eoli3n: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8936
[10:38] <sil2100> cpaelzer_: hey! Looking at the removal of php-horde* packages - just making sure, we also want to remove those that migrated to the release pocket already, right?
[10:38] <sil2100> Or does it make sense to leave them there as they migrated?
[10:39] <sil2100> Since it seems 16 of those migrated successfully
[11:40] <eoli3n> zyga: great, thanks a lot
[11:42] <zyga> :)
[12:43] <cpaelzer_> sil2100: you mean 1868281 I guess
[12:44] <cpaelzer> yes I think that includes these
[12:44] <cpaelzer> I'll also ask bryce in standup today to be sure
[12:48] <rafaeldtinoco> cpaelzer: just as a fyi... if you're splitting the logical tags in versions because of me (when reviewing your big qemu merges), no need
[12:51] <sil2100> cpaelzer: yeah, removing all of those now, we can always re-sync if needed
[13:23] <kanashiro> hi o/ today I am starting my +1 maint shift and I started updating the "Things to pick" wiki page section, now I am going to check excuses and pick something to work on
[13:38] <sil2100> kanashiro: excellent o/
[13:39] <sil2100> kanashiro: I'm looking at the r-cran-httr test failures now - I see those regressed in the release pocket actually as well, but I want to check if they're reported upstream or not before I hint them
[13:41] <kanashiro> sil2100: I am checking puppetdb, it is stuck in proposed for a while and it hasn't migrated in Debian for almost one year. I'll probably file a RM bug against it
[13:49] <Unit193> ..If you were super ambitious, you could drop the upper limit in puppet-beaker. >_>
[14:02] <kanashiro> Unit193: I feel the Debian maintainer is not having too much time to work on the package, I do not want to fix it now and then need to handle other bugs on my own. Better sync it again when it is well maintained
[14:02] <kanashiro> btw it never landed in the release pocket
[14:04] <Unit193> I only mention as it holds up net-scp
[14:07] <kanashiro> Unit193: ah I see, did you try to relax the net-ssh version constraint in puppet-beaker?
[14:07] <Unit193> net-scp*, no bug I figure it's what's needed.
[14:07] <kanashiro> if not I can give it a shot
[14:12] <Unit193> It's easier when all affected packages are in pkg-ruby. :/
[14:14] <kanashiro> Unit193: agreed, one interested developer asked for help to work on puppet packages during the last debian ruby team irc meeting
[14:15] <kanashiro> they lack manpower apparently
[14:19] <Unit193> I mean, according to UDD same for -ruby...
[14:52] <kanashiro> Unit193: after relaxing versions of net-s{sh,scp} the test passed, I'll submit a patch to Debian and upload it to Ubuntu
[15:09] <Unit193> \o/


[01:06] <Eickmeyer> Uploaded newest papirus-icon-theme. Trying to beat UIF.
[01:38] <guiverc2> thanks Eickmeyer


 What's the name of the screenshot app in lxde like kscreenshot in kde?
[04:30] <wxl[m]> @Sergio_Security this is not a support channel but scrot
 @wxl[m], Thanks
[19:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rQTBASEPACKAGING44fbdfec7e8e: Configure with triplet-prefixed version of pkg-config.] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rQTBASEPACKAGING44fbdfec7e8e


[08:49] <gapz> 'lo
[10:03] <A-Kaser> poy poy
[10:06] <gapz> hi A-Kaser
[01:14] <Stonekeeper> hi. Does anyone know how to send bind9 startup debug info to syslog? It's not resolving hostnames and I'd like to check it's reading in the dbs correctly. Thanks.
[01:16] <infinity> It should by default be logging to daemon.log anyway.
[01:16] <infinity> Unless you mean you want more verbosity.
[01:17] <infinity> If you want increased verbosity or to run it in the foreground instead of as a daemon, etc, try the manpage... named(8)
[01:17] <Stonekeeper> ah, i was trying bind(8)
[01:17] <Stonekeeper> thanks
[01:27] <Stonekeeper> ok, it seems like it doesn't like my db files in a subdirectory. anyone else have this problem? Or should i just chuck everything at the top level (/etc/bind/) ?
[01:28] <A-Kaser> what is the error ?
[01:28] <Stonekeeper> loading master file master/db.10.7.0: file not found
[01:28] <Stonekeeper> master is in /etc/bind
[01:29] <A-Kaser> named-checkconfig
[01:29] <Stonekeeper> named-checkconf returns nothing
[01:30] <A-Kaser> you use chroot ?
[01:30] <Stonekeeper> no i dont think so
[01:30] <Stonekeeper> ah i see
[01:30] <Stonekeeper> thanks. I was transfering old configs over. I see what the problem is now
[01:33] <A-Kaser> :)
[01:40] <infinity> Stonekeeper: bind's working directory is /var/cache/bind, is it not?  So anything not there needs to be specified as an absolute path.
[01:57] <Stonekeeper> infinity: ah right. I've coded in the path, just like the given dbs
[01:58] <Stonekeeper> the only thing that's foxing me is that named is complaining that it doesn't have permissions to the files, yet, bind owns them. Am checking it out right now
[03:15] <Ries> morning/afternoon folks
[03:36] <Stonekeeper> afternoon
[07:04] <Kelerion> hey guys
[07:05] <Kelerion> has anyone here had any experience installing ubuntu-sparc on the new t2000 niagara servers yet?
[07:05] <A-Kaser> no
[07:08] <Ries> Kelerion: I whish :)
[07:08] <Kelerion> can't get the damn thing to install ubuntu-sparc on.. keeps locking up at the partitioner... hmph
[08:26] <fabbione> Kelerion: i do run it on the t2000
[08:27] <fabbione> Kelerion: and it works just fine...
[09:34] <Kelerion> fabbione: am trying to install it from the ubuntu-sparc iso.. but it's stopping on the partioner.. I see theres some bugs on the bugs.ubuntu.com site... any suggestions?
[09:36] <Ries> Heu guys, I have a question... a client (really true) did a chown on the root of the FS, is there some utility that can restore permission settings on ubuntu server 6?
[09:50] <fabbione> Kelerion: no. works fine here both from iso and netinstall. If you have specific bug numbers please tell them.
[09:52] <Kelerion> yeah.. it's this one... identical problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/50056
[09:55] <fabbione> Kelerion: never seen anything like that
[09:55] <fabbione> Kelerion: i suggest you boot in expert mode
[09:56] <fabbione> and right before the partitioner just to console
[09:56] <fabbione> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=1 bs=1024
[09:56] <fabbione> do it for all the disks in system (assuming you can do it)
[09:56] <fabbione> to clean up the partition tables
[09:57] <fabbione> (MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING)
[09:57] <fabbione> and run the partitioner again
[09:57] <Kelerion> ok.. good idea... trying it now
[09:57] <fabbione> Kelerion: be aware that /dev/sdX will destroy the data in the disk
[09:57] <fabbione> in theory you need to clean up all the disks in the system
[09:58] <Kelerion> yeah.. it's alright... theres nothing on there at the moment... have already wiped the drive once to do a gentoo install after I ran into this problem
[10:00] <fabbione> how many drives you have in that box?
[10:00] <Kelerion> 2
[10:00] <fabbione> because i wonder if the partition table on the other one is making problems
[10:00] <fabbione> i guess you have the solaris one and installing on the other
[10:00] <Kelerion> I did have an idea about taking one out.. in case it was a hardware raid issue.. but wasn't sure if that'd fix things
[10:00] <fabbione> if so instead of wiping solaris
[10:01] <fabbione> raid hw? how did you manage to configure it?
[10:02] <fabbione> actually
[10:02] <fabbione> hw raid hasn't been tested at all
[10:02] <fabbione> because my ALOM doesn't support it
[10:02] <fabbione> and i couldn't find the fw that does that
[10:02] <Kelerion> I haven't done anything with it.. was just an idea
[10:02] <fabbione> ah ok.. it's not configured by default
[10:02] <Kelerion> ahh ok
[10:02] <fabbione> just unplug the solaris disk
[10:02] <fabbione> and wipe the boot sector of the other
[10:02] <Kelerion> I've probably wiped out all partitions on both drives after the amount of messing around I've already done.. lol
[10:05] <Kelerion> ok.. starting the expert install now
[10:14] <Kelerion> ok.. done the language, keyboard and cdrom parts of the install..
[10:14] <Kelerion> do I want to load the preseed file?
[10:15] <Kelerion> ok.. this sounds like a dumb question even to me.. but wheres the partitioner option on the install menu gone?
[10:16] <Kelerion> *thinks he shouldn't have loaded the preseed file*
[10:19] <Kelerion> ok.. /proc/partitions is empty
[10:19] <Kelerion> must have been something I did before
[10:22] <Kelerion> ok.. will try and walk through the expert mode.. see what happens now... if still nothing.. will pull one of the drives
[10:23] <fabbione> you need to get to load extra installer modules before you can see the disks
[10:23] <Kelerion> ahh
[10:23] <fabbione> as i said you need to get to the partitioner step without entering it
[10:24] <fabbione> good night
[10:24] <Kelerion> thanks for the ideas :)
[10:24] <Kelerion> rest well
[10:25] <gapz> bye !


[23:21] <etotheipi> if I'm hyperparanoid, should I encrypt my swap partition?
[23:22] <IdleOne> etotheipi: there is such a thing as to much security
[23:22] <PwrSurge> ActionParsnip, : i'm currently using kernel 2.6.34-5-generic, Adobe Flash 64 bit v 10.0 r45, no gnash installed and no swf installed
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> PwrSurge: worth a check though
[23:23] <etotheipi> IdleOne: is everything in swap erased on shutdown?
[23:23] <madara> Here you go http://pastebin.com/at6GJVbv
[23:23] <PwrSurge> I did check with your command
[23:23] <IdleOne> etotheipi: I would think so
[23:23] <PwrSurge> it only returns adobe flash
[23:23] <etotheipi> well, if that's the case... maybe it's too much trouble to encrypt it
[23:23] <PwrSurge> as the flash plugin installed
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> PwrSurge: ok as long as nothing outputted thats ok (unless you have the flashplugin-installer64 package installed)
[23:24] <bob_> I'm having a networking problem. It's not really a Ubuntu problem, maybe someone could help or point me to some help.....
[23:24] <draod> etotheipi: of course it's not erased. but something might overwrite it eventually. or not
[23:25] <moonwatcher> how do i make mountd and nlockmgr use privalged ports?
[23:25] <chacho> sjm what was the terminal command to get xchat
[23:25] <bsmith093> can anyone help me out with remote desktop connection
[23:25] <PwrSurge> something I notice though with flash enabled is that I get an error message when I load a page with flash when I run firefox from the console
[23:25] <PwrSurge> Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[23:25] <PwrSurge> I get this message repeating non-stop
[23:25] <PwrSurge> in the console
[23:25] <bsmith093> how do i connect to someone im trying to help?
[23:26] <bsmith093> i have their ip but the screen i sblack
[23:26] <madara> @ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/at6GJVbv
[23:27] <PwrSurge> and when I disable the flash plugin and try again, I don't get this message anymore
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> madara: what about: sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get --reinstall install gedit
[23:27] <madara> Oh I'll check that too
[23:28] <PwrSurge> lets see if I can still make the machine lock up with flash disabled under the new 2.6.34 kernel
[23:29] <sjm> chacho: sudo apt-get install xchat
[23:29] <chacho> ok i just got it installed
[23:29] <etotheipi> draod: isn't it better to encrypt it, then? just in case something personal ends up there.
[23:29] <bob_> I'm having a networking problem. It's not really a Ubuntu problem, maybe someone could help or point me to some help.....
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> bob_: if you give some details we may e able to help. Simply saying "i have a problem"  won't get you any help at all
[23:30] <IdleOne> bob_: #networking might be a good place to ask
[23:31] <bob_> IdleOne: Ill check that out. Thanks
[23:31] <madara> @ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/qjLwS3np
[23:31] <draod> etotheipi: yes, i would think so
[23:31] <inco6> does anybody here keep getting abused by the freenode opers?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> madara: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove    will remove the packages you no longer needed
[23:32] <SWFu> Has anyone tried out 10.04 on an Alienware m11x?
[23:32] <IdleOne> inco6: #freenode for help with that. this is #ubuntu (ubuntu support)
[23:32] <madara> @ActionParsnip then should I restart the computer?
[23:32] <norrec> how can i get samba to regenerate the files in /etc/samba?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> madara: no need dude
[23:33] <Fixmypc956> hello sjm this is chacho
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> norrec: i can give you mine if you want
[23:33] <SWFu> I'm downloading it now and wonder if I'll have any issues
[23:33] <sjm> howdy
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> SWFu: the livecd will show you any possible issues, you can also check the hcl
[23:33] <sjm> fixmypc956: you're in xchat now?
[23:34] <Fixmypc956> yes sir....works pretty good
[23:34] <davide> ciao
[23:34] <bob_> I'm having a networking problem. On my wireless network I have a Windows box and a Ubuntu laptop. I reserected an old Win XP box and when I try to log in it says it wasn't able to authorize?!?!?! Any ideas?
[23:35] <norrec> ActionParsnip: if u wouldnt mind pastebining ur default files, i would appreciate it
[23:35] <bastidrazor> bob_: possibly ##windows is a good channel to check
[23:35] <sjm> fixmypc956: That's what I use for IRC.  Hope you like it.  (you can choose you're nickname in the setup or per network, if you want to change it to default to chacho)
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> norrec: sure, the 1st is dhcp.conf
[23:35] <bob_> bastidrazor: Thanks!
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> norrec: and is empty
[23:36] <Akiraa> Is it possible to use grub/grub2 to boot from an iso file stored locally?
[23:36] <bastidrazor> bob_: good luck
[23:36] <Fixmypc956> ok how do i do that
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> norrec: the 2nd is gdbcommands
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> norrec: http://pastebin.com/e1vj7JZZ
[23:36] <sjm> or you can use the /nick command on irc to change it manually
[23:37] <bastidrazor> Akiraa: yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 will explain how
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> norrec: the last is smb.conf    http://pastebin.com/CvztwPiC
[23:37] <mwen> names
[23:37] <sjm> fixmypc956: or you can use the /nick command on irc to change it manually
[23:37] <Fixmypc956> I also see that when u are talking too me it highlites
[23:37] <mwen> guntbert: u still there?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> norrec: the files are owned by root:root and are chmodded 644
[23:38] <sjm> fixmypc956: menu: XChat>Network List
[23:38] <sjm> fixmypc956: yes, the highlight helps on busy channels.
[23:39] <Dougie> I'm having some issues with my notebooks wireless, it seems like it's pausing and then starting again randomly
[23:39] <MikeH_> is there a fix for the stalling bootloader with grub2 yet?
[23:39] <Fixmypc956> is that using the '/msg' command
[23:40] <redsherpa> Are there very many curl users out there?  I have been having trouble finding support for curl on my Ubuntu Server.
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Dougie: when it pauses then resumes, run: dmesg | tail -n 15   see if it gives any clues
[23:40] <robin_> Hi. I run vanilla ubuntu 10.04 x64 with 2 monitors. I use the proprietary ati drivers for my card (v10.5) and have compiz running. My right monitor is the monitor I use daily, and left monitor I use when I need extra space (i.e. right monitor is *my* default). Thing is, when I launch an application it will open on the left monitor. Also applies to full screen flash videos (yes I know flash sucks) and pop up windows from within chr
[23:40] <robin_> omium. Anyone have any suggestions on how to get everything to run on the right monitor?
[23:40] <sjm> fixmypc956: for what? (/msg)
[23:40] <FloodBot1> robin_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:40] <Fixmypc956> for the highlighting
[23:40] <Dougie> ActionParsnips, ok as soon as the upgrade finishes I'll put it back on wifi and see
[23:41] <sjm> fixmypc956: no. /msg is private messages.  xchat recognizes your nick on the line and automatically highlights it.
[23:41] <Dougie> xchat is da shit
[23:41] <sjm> fixmypc956: It wouldn't if I didn't put your nick in the line I type.
[23:41] <IdleOne> !language | Dougie
[23:41] <Dougie> ah yeah sorry lol
[23:42] <Fixmypc956> sjm so this is highlighted for u
[23:42] <sjm> fixmypc956: (I don't see it highlighted when you don't use "sjm" in the line of typing.
[23:42] <sjm> fixmypc956: yes
[23:42] <robin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/443622/
[23:42] <Andorin> Somebody wanna help me with the startup disk creator? I'm trying to create an installer for 64-bit Lucid on my flash drive, but it's consistently refusing to create the installer.
[23:42] <Fixmypc956> i see
[23:42] <Fixmypc956> sjm: i see
[23:42] <sjm> fixmypc956:  :)
[23:43] <redsherpa> I would like recommendations of places to go to get support for curl.  The mailing list is not responsive.
[23:43] <IdleOne> #curl
[23:43] <Fixmypc956> sjm: ok for nick...how can i change it so I keep it
[23:43] <hiexpo> Andorin,  what os system u tring to use to create it?
[23:43] <Andorin> Never mind, there we go. Choosing "erase disk" for the flash drive did it.
[23:43] <Fixmypc956> sjm: /nick <nick>
[23:43] <sjm> fixmypc956:  to always have it start with your nick, look in menu: XChat>Network Settings
[23:44] <IdleOne> !register | Fixmypc956
[23:44] <sjm> fixmypc956: to have it assigned to you:  see what idleone sent you.
[23:44] <hiexpo> !hiexpo /associate
[23:44] <Akiraa> How do you navigate the filesystem folder structure from the grub2 CLI?
[23:45] <hiexpo> !grub2
[23:45] <IdleOne> !cli | Akiraa
[23:45] <greezmunkey> what's the command to force security updates wiht apt, please
[23:45] <Akiraa> IdleOne: error: command unknown `cd'
[23:46] <Dave__> draod: Ive got the roshal unrar and i ran the original command you told me (unrar x -p'pass' archive.rar) but it says: myrar.rar is not a RAR archive
[23:46] <suprengr> Hi folks - anyone any good at XChat basics ??
[23:46] <Fixmypc956> !register | chacho
[23:46] <greezmunkey> Is it just sudo apt-get update $$ sudo apt-get install update ??
[23:47] <bastidrazor> suprengr: #chat is
[23:47] <IdleOne> Fixmypc956: go to the link and read :)
[23:47] <drizzt_> Dave__, does it start with !Rar?
[23:47] <robb_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[23:47] <Fixmypc956> ok cool i will do that
[23:47] <drizzt_> Rar!
[23:47] <Dave__> drizzt_:  does what start with !Rar?
[23:47] <Dougie> ActionParsnip, I don't see anything really..... it's mainly when downloading a file it seems to pause then start again and go pretty slow. The signal is strong (100%) so not sure what's going on
[23:47] <greezmunkey> robb_: ok, thanks :)
[23:47] <robb_> :)
[23:47] <drizzt_> Dave__, your archive obviously
[23:47] <vlt> Hello. After upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 OpenOffice won't start, complaining it couldn't detect the UI language. Any idea?
[23:47] <Dave__> on, no
[23:48] <dxtr> vlt: It starts for me :)
[23:48] <drizzt_> Dave__, so what it's first bytes are?
[23:48] <robb_> any clamfs users?
[23:48] <suprengr> hi bastidrazor -simply tringto find out how to get it to reload the channels I 'add to favorites'
[23:48] <genfool_> suprengr,   /join #sabayon  will fix your issues
[23:48] <Dave__> drizzt_:  i dont understand what you mean
[23:48] <Dougie> does Lucid not like WPA much?
[23:48] <Jon--> I have issues with xbindkeys, doesn't start on startup, I have to rerun it randomly... How can I fix this?
[23:48] <vlt> dxtr: Fine :)  Any idea what to try first?
[23:49] <bastidrazor> suprengr: i do not know. i use irssi
[23:49] <Dave__> are you asking what the filename is?
[23:49] <dxtr> vlt: I'd go with re-installing. Other than that I have no idea
[23:49] <drizzt_> is it you the guy with rar archive?
[23:49] <suprengr> cheers bastidrazor
[23:49] <vlt> dxtr: Is there an apt(itude) re-install command?
[23:49] <Dave__> yes, i need to learn how to unpack a password protected archive
[23:49] <hiexpo> lol
[23:50] <Akiraa> How do you locate a file on a hard drive using the grub2 CLI? I'm not sure what (hd0), (hd0,1), (hd1,5) mean nor how I would navigate the folder structure if that were even possible
[23:50] <robin_> Dougie: I had a lot of issues with WPA/WPA2 and lucid. After a bit of trial and error I managed to get WPA working using AES
[23:50] <dxtr> vlt: Not that I know of
[23:50] <Jon--> I have issues with xbindkeys, doesn't start on startup, I have to rerun it randomly... How can I fix this?
[23:50] <drizzt_> hd0 is sda, hd1,5 is sdb6 etc
[23:50] <hiexpo> go to file system and search {file name}
[23:50] <vlt> Akiraa: (hd0,1) is first partition now.
[23:51] <Dave__> drizzt_:  yes its me, i need to learn how to unpack a password protected rar archive
[23:51] <Dougie> well think I'll just set it up as WEP or use mac filtering if that's the case
[23:51] <vlt> Akiraa: formerly known as (hd0,0). You should be able to acces files using the (hd0,1):/boot/... syntax
[23:52] <robb_> if you install unrar and use file roller it should ask you for the password
[23:52] <hiexpo> Dave__,  right click on it on and exract here
[23:52] <drizzt_> Dave__, so what are first bytes of that file? or what 'file' is saying about it?
[23:52] <hiexpo> rar is windows though
[23:52] <suprengr> Dave__ if am'just listien into' various Ubuntu channels atm..and xchat is currently fav option.  It would be nice to retrieve my selected channels
[23:52] <robb_> unrar is install via synaptic or sudo apt-get install unrar
[23:53] <robb_> rar is not just for windows
[23:53] <Dave__> i have unrar already
[23:53] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get unrar-free
[23:53] <robb_> right.. :)
[23:53] <Dougie> switching to WEP doesn't seem to have cured anything
[23:53] <Dave__> drizzt_: the filename is The_Feeder.part1.rar
[23:53] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[23:53] <MikeH_> Anyone on the grub2 issue? I just get a flashing cursor...
[23:54] <robb_> unrar works too.
[23:54] <_nicolas_> hermano: our names is near. it´s sound like
[23:54] <robb_> apt-cache search unrar
[23:54] <Akiraa> vlt: the command 'ls' outputs: "(hd0) (hd0,5) (hd0,1)" on a default ubuntu install box
[23:54] <drizzt_> Dave__, type in terminal od -x The_Feeder* | head 5 -
[23:54] <Guest26683> do you know a program that record online tv streaming inside firefox browser? thnaks
[23:54] <hiexpo> robb_, ya but limited unrar free is  better
[23:55] <Dougie> doesn't appear to be due to wireless security....hmm I think it may be a driver issue
[23:55] <Dougie> brb
[23:55] <robb_> good to know... thanks :)
[23:55] <simps> Hi all. I have a little problem with my wireless usb adapter. I'm using Ubuntu Lucid. It works properly, however, sometimes it just disconnects and stops working. And I cannot find wlan0 in ifconfig. This usually happens when I have high traffic. It also happened the other day when i had my external HD connected. And it stopped recognizing the external HD too. I can fix it with rmmod ndiswrapper. then modprobe ndiswrapper. But I w
[23:55] <simps> as wondering if there was a way to just not have it happen at all
[23:55] <drizzt_> anyone knows what happened to Lilo?
[23:55] <hiexpo> :)
[23:55] <kandinski> I want to install some locales on 10.04, but when I do #dpkg-reconfigure locales it just regenerates the ones I have already installed, instead of coming up with a list of new locales to install
[23:55] <MikeH_> Surely I'm not the only person who has had this issue with grub? I've had it on two machines now?
[23:56] <acerimmer_> MikeH_: you're not alone
[23:56] <Dave__> drizzt_: head: cannot open `5-' for reading: No such file or directory
[23:56] <Jon--> I have issues with xbindkeys, doesn't start on startup, I have to rerun it randomly... How can I fix this?
[23:56] <drizzt_> kandinski, you should add them manually in some file
[23:56] <MikeH_> acerimmer_: Thats good to know, I'm getting quite frustrated trying to google for it.
[23:56] <_nicolas_> hey! i can´t see any computer on my network
[23:56] <acerimmer_> MikeH_: not to suggest for a second that I actually have a solution...
[23:56] <drizzt_> Dave__, space between 5 and -
[23:56] <MikeH_> acerimmer_: Is there a fix anywhere? Perhaps instructions on how to install original grub?
[23:56] <hiexpo> MikeH_,  - grub2
[23:56] <axxit> hello all, I was wondering if i could get some help configuring my wireless bcm4312?
[23:56] <MikeH_> hiexpo: ?
[23:57] <acerimmer_> MikeH_: "grub legacy"  and yes you can use that instead of grub2
[23:57] <acerimmer_> !grub>MikeH_
[23:57] <MikeH_> just grub legacy at command line?
[23:57] <hiexpo> !mikeh | grub2
[23:57] <Dave__> drizzt_: http://pastebin.com/8MNeC2Fi
[23:57] <acerimmer_> MikeH_: see the link I sent.
[23:57] <hiexpo> sworry 1 sec
[23:58] <hiexpo> !grub2
[23:58] <AmgJesus> SUP BITCHES
[23:58] <Phillip> Sechure is gay
[23:58] <AmgJesus> gtfo
[23:58] <AmgJesus> So
[23:58] <IdleOne> !language | AmgJesus
[23:58] <hiexpo> !language | amgarchIn9
[23:58] <AmgJesus> sorryk
[23:58] <axxit> I installed and configured the STA driver but nothing is showing up under network manager...soo frustrating!
[23:58] <Phillip> Hey guys I have a problem with my ubuntu.
[23:58] <drizzt_> kandinski, /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local
[23:58] <kandinski> drizzt_: add them manually?
[23:58] <MikeH_> acerimmer_: I have no idea what parts of those documents are relevant to removing grub2 and installing original grub.
[23:59] <zleap> how can i set up a scanner in ubuntu to xsane knows where to look for my scanner
[23:59] <Dougie> how can I see what driver my wireless card is using?
[23:59] <Dougie> been a while since I used ubuntu lol
[23:59] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone for some reason compiz doesn't load when i startup my computer. If I switch my desktop effects to normal it loads but then if i logout and back in it gets reset to metacity or something else. I think it might have something to do with the fact that I installed Unity but I have since removed it and the problem persists. Any help would be great ;)
[23:59] <drizzt_> kandinski, yeap
[23:59] <Guest26683> hello.  do you know a program that record online tv streaming inside firefox browser? thnak
[23:59] <acerimmer_> MikeH_: i'm ALMOST certain that installing legacy will kill grub 2.  wait one and i'll track the tutorial
[23:59] <hiexpo> !ask | Philip
[23:59] <nimbus> Anyone know why my fonts render this way? non superuser: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/525416/Screenshot-Calculator%20-%20Scientific.png as a superuser http://dl.dropbox.com/u/525416/gksu-Screenshot-Calculator%20-%20Scientific.png
[23:59] <Phillip> I just installed ubuntu on my Macbook pro and recently i dropped it. Everytime i open the terminal on ubuntu my fans spin really fast and the battery goes down really fast can anyone help?


[16:06] <mup> Bug #1672169 opened: cannot login the first time on raspberry pi3  <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672169>
[17:36] <JBeardie> Hi all. I just started to introduce myself to Ubuntu core with pi3
[17:36] <JBeardie> I'm having problems with wlan
[17:37] <JBeardie> I have installed wireless-tools snap, but it's not working properly
[17:38] <JBeardie> wireless-tools.iwconfig returns following error
[17:38] <JBeardie> /snap/wireless-tools/9/sbin/iwconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libiw.so.30: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:14] <ogra_> JBeardie, any particualr reason for this (using the wireless-tools snap vas just using the preinstalled console-conf )
[18:14] <ogra_> s/vas/vs./
[18:17] <ogra_> looking at the source for the wireless-tools snap it seems to not include any of the required libs in stable-packages .. i doubt it could actually work on an actual core image
[18:17] <ogra_> https://git.launchpad.net/~snappy-hwe-team/snappy-hwe-snaps/+git/wireless-tools/tree/snapcraft.yaml
[18:20] <JBeardie> i even tried to all manually a config file-> /etc/network/interfaces.d/wlan0 but it's not loading up either
[18:22] <ogra_> did you run through the initial config wizard ?
[18:23] <ogra_> thats required to set up the user and ssh access
[18:23] <ogra_> (and networking)
[18:24] <JBeardie> Yes. I found wlan from it, but i couldnt complete the wizzard wirelessly. I had to make it over lan
[18:24] <ogra_> on the pi3 you need to do that via wired lan or a monitor/kbd for the initial setup ... there is a bug with the wlan driver that makes it not work there
[18:24] <JBeardie> lan and ssh are ok
[18:24] <ogra_> well, ssh in via lan ...
[18:24] <JBeardie> yes
[18:24] <ogra_> then run "sudo console-conf"
[18:24] <ogra_> turn off wired ... configure wlan ... reboot
[18:25] <ogra_> (then check for the new IP the device got when switching to wlan after the reboot)
[18:25] <ogra_> you dont need wireless-tools, just the above steps
[18:27] <JBeardie> that's it. Thanks!


[23:20] <hikenboot> anyone know if there is any proxy type sites that would allow you to play flash located on another website without having to install flash on the client ( this is a method I thought might be possible to avoid flash support limitation on powerpc)
[23:20] <judith> Re. virtualbox, is there a command line I could try to find it?
[23:20] <Ghoster> hedkandi: Yeah everytime I install the nvida driver it unloads the ati one...
[23:20] <hedkandi> Guest96372, right but is that meant to happen
[23:20] <sebsebseb> judith: try opening it from the termianl with  virtualbox
[23:20] <hedkandi> Ghoster: well they're probably incompatible then?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> judith: type virtualbox and hit enter
[23:21] <matth3w> Hello, i'm wondering why i can only ssh to my ubuntu machine using my internal ip address? When i try to ssh using my regular ip and the ssh port it times out every time
[23:21] <hedkandi> Ghoster, is it documented?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> judith: other distros and such,  that's off topic for this channel really,  but that's fine in pm :)
[23:21] <tilt> mhhh
[23:21] <Daedro> didnt know u could run an ati and nvidia card together
[23:21] <tilt> why jaunty x.org segfaults when I enable the wacom sections?
[23:21] <hedkandi> no I dunno how it works with video drivers
[23:21] <Ghoster> Hedkandi I have searched for this kind a setup with no leads... Thought I would ask you smart people
[23:21] <Guest96372> hedkandi - yes as a security measure.  there is a way to disable it (that is, to connect without prompting). hang on and I'll have a look...
[23:22] <sebsebseb> judith: I assume you want to virtual machine Windows?
[23:22] <dupondje> somebody knows a tool to recover files from a half-broken harddisk ?
[23:22] <judith> Just trying the command line!
[23:22] <aSt3raL> so my grandmas computer is 6 years old and chokes on windows and aol and im thinking about switching her to linux any thoughts?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> judith: it's a graphical app.  you can open it from the command line
[23:23] <hedkandi> Ghoster, what tools are available for fiddling with the video drivers then?
[23:23] <bernardo_> hola?
[23:23] <bernardo_> hello?
[23:23] <bernardo_> konichiwa?
[23:23] <judith> Yes, I was thinking about trying XP or Vista, but am lacking a product key at the moment!
[23:23] <sebsebseb> !es |  bernardo_
[23:23] <aSt3raL> msg me if interested
[23:23] <aSt3raL> this chan scrolls too fast for me
[23:24] <sebsebseb> judith: If you have the original CD/DVD  I think there is a way to find out the key
[23:24] <sebsebseb> aSt3raL: ok
[23:24] <sebsebseb> aSt3raL: well it's not that busy right now
[23:24] <aSt3raL> ok fair enough
[23:24] <jblack> Hiya. I just upgraded a system from Jaunty to Karmic and now it's not booting.
[23:25] <sebsebseb> !details |  jblack
[23:25] <aSt3raL> usually when im here it is
[23:25] <sebsebseb> aSt3raL: as for which distro, well it depends on how much RAM the computer has, and  stuff like that
[23:25] <jblack> On the screen I get a complaint about mountall getting a SEGV, ntpd trying to start and fail, and a blinking cursor, without a login.
[23:25] <Guest96372> hedkandi - looking on the forums it appears there is variation in opinion on whether it should or not (ask for keyring). I disabled mine the first time it prompted me for it - will have a look to see how it is done now...
[23:25] <judith> The problem is that I am still sing XP on an old PC - presume I can't use it twice. Vista has been upgrades to Win 7, but CD is a Samsung one, so may not work for different computer.
[23:25] <aSt3raL> p4 2ghz, 256mb ram, onboard video
[23:25] <doc-saintly> I have a user who is unable to SCP a server from the external network (doesn't authenticate), but it connects fine from the internal network
[23:25] <jblack> ctrl-c does nothing, ctrl-alt-del attempts to start a shutdown, but then gets stuck.
[23:26] <aSt3raL> 80gb hdd i think
[23:26] <sebsebseb> judith: it is possible to actsaully convert an XP install into a virtual machine
[23:26] <dailystruggle> how do you set up wireless can someone drop me a link
[23:26] <AndyGraybeal> how do i stop ubuntu from automatically logging into X... i need to do it through the ocmmand lines, the regular wmenus that are normally there to change this aren gone right now.
[23:26] <dupondje> somebody knows a tool to recover files from a half-broken harddisk ?
[23:26] <aSt3raL> i told her to buy a new damn desktop but when i was driving home i thought linux would prob work for her
[23:26] <jblack> The most current kernel is 2.6.28-something, I tried 2.6.27-something, also on the system, and rescue mode in both also show the same problem.
[23:26] <bastid_raZor> doc-saintly: possibly port 22 needs to be forwarded to the server if behind a firewall or the ISP may block port 22.
[23:26] <sebsebseb> aSt3raL: well  yes, with the correct distro, Linux breaths a lot of life into old hardware!
[23:27] <judith> That sounds good. I have installed VirtualBox in Terminal, but still can't see it anywhere!
[23:27] <bastid_raZor> doc-saintly: firewall/router
[23:27] <jblack> There are also a handful of udev complaints.
[23:27] <acicula> dupondje: define half broken hard drive
[23:27] <truepurple> I know of a program to recover files from erasing and stuff, but not sure about damage to the drive itself
[23:27] <manuel__> hi, does anybody know where jscalibrator is? it doesn't appear on repos
[23:27] <aSt3raL> what about flash though?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> judith: you mean you did this?  sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose ?
[23:27] <judith> Found it :-)
[23:27] <matth3w> Is this a router issue??
[23:27] <aSt3raL> i dunno if thatd work with 256mg ram
[23:27] <truepurple> For that, you would probably need a professional service
[23:27] <sebsebseb> judith: that would install the open source version that has no  USB support
[23:27] <jp-enguin> i love ubuntu.
[23:27] <judith> Yes, and it worked¬
[23:27] <aSt3raL> maybe buy some used ram and drop it in
[23:27] <doc-saintly> bastid_raZor: nope, other user is able to connect fine. and it wouldn't be throwing an authentication issue if the router wasn't allowing the traffic
[23:28] <vistro> Does anybody know why my desktop won't connect to any wireless networks? It sees them, but it won't connect to them
[23:28] <jsubl2> so what program is good for video editing
[23:28] <sebsebseb> !love |  jp-enguin
[23:28] <Ghoster> Hedkandi : Xorg.conf is the main tool : /  I guess.. ATi has the configuration for the main one that works..
[23:28] <bastid_raZor> doc-saintly: you use keys or just passwords to authenticate?
[23:28] <acicula> !wireless | vistro
[23:28] <sebsebseb> jsubl2: try kino
[23:28] <doc-saintly> bastid_raZor: pass
[23:28] <jsubl2> k
[23:28] <jblack> So, that's all the facts I have at the moment. Any suggestions how how to get my server to at least boot to a usable shell?
[23:28] <jsubl2> thanks sebsebseb
[23:28] <truepurple> Ubottu, thats life, love is when the ice weasels get friendly
[23:28] <judith> Is that not the best version? I won't be using it for a bit, so no problem if I need to reinstall.
[23:28] <sebsebseb> jsubl2: there's also Synfig for 2D animation and Blender for 3D moddeling by the way
[23:29] <bastid_raZor> doc-saintly: so it rejects his password?
[23:29] <hedkandi> Ghoster: you need to find some more tools
[23:29] <doc-saintly> bastid_raZor: yes, even though the password works fine on the internal network
[23:29] <vistro> It's not any of the cards. It's the operating system.
[23:29] <acicula> jblack: safe mode or rescue mode doesnt work?
[23:29] <Guest96372> hedkandi - http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/
[23:29] <jsubl2> sebsebseb: ok just mainly pasting some video together from the camcorder with minor cutting and pasting
[23:29] <hedkandi> Ghoster: do a search on synaptics for all the utility packages involving video cards
[23:29] <dupondje> acicula: bad blocks, some unreadable files. It didn't spin up anymore, had to open it. Now it gets seen by pc, but want to recover some files on it, not all
[23:29] <sebsebseb> judith: well  that version is fine, unless you want  USB support
[23:29] <hedkandi> Guest96372, how interesting!
[23:29] <judith> It's VB ose, apparently!
[23:29] <jblack> acicula: Nope. single shows exactly the same problem, so it's going bad really early.
[23:29] <Ghoster> hedkandi : <--- you look like a good tool :)
[23:29] <acicula> dupondje: open as in you physically opened the drive?
[23:30] <dailystruggle> anyone
[23:30] <TheFuzzball> where can I find a repo that has a daily build of KDE 4.4?
[23:30] <sebsebseb> judith: that's the one in the repo
[23:30] <acicula> jblack: does the kernel even load?
[23:30] <truepurple> How can it be seen by the PC if it doesnt spin up any more
[23:30] <Ghoster> K
[23:30] <dupondje> acicula: yes
[23:30] <judith> How do I PM for distro? Will need to turn in soon ...
[23:30] <jblack> acicula: Yup, and it gets as far as running some init scripts. The last two things on the console before trying to boot are mountall getting a SEGV, and ntpd trying to start
[23:30] <acicula> dupondje: yeah you need a professional recovery service now
[23:30] <sebsebseb> judith: I tried to pm you earlier actsaully about three times and had no reply
[23:30] <vistro> all ALL of my cards are supported. Why don't they work?
[23:31] <hedkandi> hoho
[23:31] <aSt3raL> sebsebseb, heh thanks
[23:31] <dupondje> acicula: surely not, it shows the disk in ubuntu :) its mounted, and can see files, just want a programm that tries a bit harder to copy everything, instead on giving up after 1 read retry
[23:31] <sebsebseb> judith: there should be a thing with my name on it?
[23:31] <bastid_raZor> doc-saintly: i'm not finding anything on google or the forums about failed pass from outside the network but inside it works. i have no idea.
[23:31] <sebsebseb> judith: if not click on mine and should open pm up
[23:31] <matth3w> Hello, i'm wondering why i can only ssh to my ubuntu machine using my internal ip address? When i try to ssh using my regular ip and the ssh port it times out every time, is this a router issue?
[23:31] <doc-saintly> bastid_raZor: hmm. alright well i'm in the same boat XD. thanks for trying though
[23:31] <acicula> jblack: you could try the livecd and chrooting into your system, that way you can at least figure out/fix whats wrong?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> judith: I could say in here really, but someone might not like that
[23:31] <judith> That could be my fault ... new and clueless user. Will try now.
[23:32] <jblack> acicula: Yeah, I'm downloading an ubuntu-rescue-remix as we speak.. That's painfully slow as it's via cell phone.
[23:32] <skyl> what is the .cache dir for?
[23:32] <vistro> And why does my PS/2 keyboard only work half the time?
[23:32] <acicula> dupondje: well, in that case dd is as low as you can go
[23:32] <KittyBoots> I am looking for software suggestions.  I am looking for open source book writing software, any ideas?
[23:32] <jblack> acicula: I get the impression that udev is not happy with the current kernel. The newest one on the system is 2.6.28-something.
[23:32] <vistro> Ubuntu: Don't expect it to work on a desktop
[23:32] <dupondje> acicula: but with dd I can't copy files ? just the full parition ?
[23:32] <acicula> it will make a carbon copy of what your disk spits out, but it may still get stuck on read errors
[23:32] <dailystruggle> don't know if its the settings in the laptop off but prolly the router
[23:32] <dupondje> partition*
[23:32] <zzzxzzz> hello gusy
[23:33] <skyl> vistro, sounds like the hardware, I've never had a software prob with linux and a keyboard
[23:33] <acicula> dupondje: err yeah
[23:33] <acicula> dupondje: dump the disk, then try to recover?
[23:33] <dupondje> want to recover single files/folders, as some of the content is useless
[23:33] <dupondje> well don't have space for full image :(
[23:33] <Guest23177> just installed ubuntu 9.10.  i am new to the whole ubuntu/linux thing.  is there anything cool/fun i should check out?
[23:33] <Ozzah> Hi, every time I press ctrl+shift my keyboard layout changes from english to ascii.  Does anybody know how to disable this? I never use it anyway.
[23:33] <vistro> how does that help me?
[23:33] <vistro> I don't have any other machines available
[23:33] <zzzxzzz> i need your help guys
[23:33] <vistro> my laptop can't do always on
[23:33] <acicula> dupondje: dunno then :/
[23:33] <zzzxzzz> i need your help guys
[23:34] <mrandmrspsycho> what is the sudo so i can grab java and flash?
[23:34] <acicula> !ask | zzzxzzz
[23:34] <dupondje> acicula: k :) thx anyway :)
[23:34] <KittyBoots> Where can I go to learn about open source applications?
[23:34] <acicula> KittyBoots: its website
[23:34] <jblack> I bet that 2.6.28 is too old for current udevs.
[23:35] <acicula> KittyBoots: sorry misread, if you want to learn about open source maybe gnu.org ?
[23:35] <zzzxzzz> i want to upgrade for new ubuntu, is anybody who can help me?
[23:35] <Iowan> KittyBoots:  Synaptic
[23:35] <KittyBoots> acicula: I am looking for something specific and I am not having rewarding results.
[23:35] <acicula> KittyBoots: a specific program you mean?
[23:35] <jblack> I could see a too-old-kernel breaking udev bad enough that the filesystems don't mount properly, etc. At least I hope. :|
[23:36] <jblack> Or it's mountall SEGVing. /me rolls his eyes
[23:36] <hedkandi> hey, when I delete a user in "users and groups" he disappears, and then the next time I start the dialog he's back!
[23:36] <KittyBoots> acicula:  I am looking for a book writing program, that I used about a year ago, but I forgot what it was called.
[23:36] <hedkandi> where is the passwd file on users?
[23:36] <acicula> KittyBoots: latex related?
[23:37] <iKernel> KittyBoots, open office org?
[23:37] <acicula> hedkandi: /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow-
[23:37] <acicula> hedkandi: /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[23:37] <acicula>  - -
[23:37] <Iowan> hedkandi: /etc/passwd
[23:37] <ReAn> hrm >_>
[23:37] <hedkandi> why doesn't the dialog function properly?
[23:37] <matth3w> When I ssh to my ubuntu machine from vista it works fine IF I am using the internal ip address for that box, but when i use just my regular ip address it times out every time... Is there anyway to fix this? Could someone point me in the right direction? I am thinking its a router issue?
[23:37] <KittyBoots> acicula, iKernel: it is not open office more specific, and it may be latex related
[23:37] <mgolisch> sudo deluser username?
[23:37] <jblack> matth3w: Time out, or refused?
[23:37] <iKernel> KittyBoots, I have latex boots. They fall apart really easy.
[23:38] <EntityReborn> matth3w, you have a firewall issue
[23:38] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anybody knows how can i change all folder's icon to another one using hydroxygen as principal theme?
[23:38] <acicula> matth3w: regular ip adress means
[23:38] <bastid_raZor> matth3w: that does sound like you need to forward port  22 to the internal IP of the ubuntu box
[23:38] <matth3w> maybe it is refused
[23:38] <jblack> if it's a timeout, it's definitey a firewall. if it's refused, it's eitehr a timeout, or you haven't configured ssh to listen on the public interface.
[23:38] <sleight> just installed xchat and ccsm.  any other things i should play with?
[23:38] <matth3w> okay i will try that when i get home
[23:38] <jblack> pardon if it's refused, its' either a firewall, or you haven't configured...
[23:39] <bastid_raZor> matth3w: also you ISP may block 22. some ISP's do some don't.
[23:39] <nytek_> sleight: ncmpc and irssi
[23:39] <nytek_> sleight: <3
[23:39] <matth3w> okay
[23:39] <matth3w> thank you for all the responses ;)
[23:40] <bastid_raZor> matth3w: if that is the case you can have ssh listen to multiple ports by adding the other port in /etc/.ssh/sshd_config
[23:40] <jblack> I wonder if I can use init=/bin/sh
[23:40] <bastid_raZor> matth3w: you will need to restart ssh or reboot. both work.
[23:41] <magyar> hi, is there a bot?
[23:41] <matth3w> okay thank you bastid_raZor
[23:41] <boingolov> I have two nic's, both are using dhcp client for now to connect, but the problem is that both try to set the default route and it screws up routing
[23:41] <boingolov> how can I configure the /etc/network/interfaces so that it ignores the default route returned from the dhcp server on eth1?
[23:41] <KittyBoots> iKernel: I am looking for software similar to http://www.lyx.org/AboutLyX but more for novel writing.
[23:42] <boingolov> will I have to modify the dhclient.conf file ?
[23:43] <zzzxzzz> i want to upgrade ubuntu Beta 9.10 to full version
[23:43] <acicula> boingolov: cant you specify that in the interfaces file?
[23:43] <zzzxzzz> i want to upgrade ubuntu Beta 9.10 to full version
[23:43] <acicula> boingolov: man interfaces
[23:43] <k0d3g3ar> is it me or dos flash suck on Linux?
[23:43] <lstarnes> zzzxzzz: it should automatically update to the release version when you update its packages
[23:43] <nytek_> zzzxzzz: apt-get upgrade?
[23:43] <Cyber_Akuma_2> Anybody here ever used the ata module in grub2 instead of the bios module?
[23:44] <zzzxzzz> apt-get ???????
[23:44] <boingolov> acicula, I've been looking at that man page
[23:44] <sburwood> I ve a good question.  Aside from using usb-creator, what else do I need to do to create a bootable usb stick? I've tried two.  One says that the operating system is missing, and the other says that the partition is damaged
[23:44] <magyar> hi, is the video bug for karmic fixed (464591)?
[23:44] <zzzxzzz> what is this sorry
[23:44] <lstarnes> zzzxzzz: the package manager
[23:44] <hedkandi> I don't know but my "users and groups" tool won't delete a user!
[23:44] <hedkandi> how rubbish!
[23:44] <sburwood> am I forgetting something?
[23:44] <zzzxzzz> or where can i find?
[23:44] <lstarnes> zzzxzzz: enter this in a terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:45] <boingolov> doesn't look like it allows you to tell it exactly what to request from dhclient , but I can probably override that in the dhclient.conf
[23:45] <lstarnes> zzzxzzz: that will automatically update the package database then install the newest versions of all the packages that are installed
[23:45] <sburwood> noone knows?
[23:46] <zzzxzzz> thank
[23:47] <xover> hi all
[23:47] <hikenboot> can anyone point me to the most current directons for setting up a ubuntu chroot on a ubuntu powerpc system.. I seem to fail every time using directions for installing x86 arch on this platform
[23:47] <sburwood> thank you for not helping me everyone
[23:48] <xover> I have a major usb issue, when copying a large file, my system load shoots from 1 to 10 and the xfer slows down to a snails pace
[23:48] <xover> what is happening here? there are no messages in dmesg
[23:48] <hedkandi> how would I change my identity at a bash shell?
[23:49] <erUSUL> hedkandi: change identity?
[23:49] <hedkandi> be a different user
[23:49] <vici0us> how do i know which driver my wirelesscard is currently using?
[23:49] <erUSUL> hedkandi: "su newuser"
[23:49] <erUSUL> vici0us: lshw -C Network
[23:50] <vici0us> erUSUL: ty
[23:52] <yuanmin> hi, am i in room "#ubuntu"?
[23:52] <LjL> yuanmin: yes
[23:52] <sebsebseb> yuanmin: yes
[23:52] <yuanmin> thanks, :)
[23:52] <Myrth> hi, trustguard returned a report that Apache 2.2.11 has security vulnerabilities and to pass the test i need to upgrade to 2.2.12, but the latest upgrade that was available few days ago is 2.2.11-2ubuntu2.5 - does any one know if this last update contains the security fix even though it's not 2.2.12?
[23:53] <hedkandi> how do you stop being su someone?
[23:53] <LjL> hedkandi: "exit"
[23:53] <Mazn> hi, i have blocked a friend with pidgin, how do i do to unblock him?
[23:53] <yuanmin> hi i want to ask why my ubuntu 9.10 continue ask me the key of my wifi when i have already connected to my wifi?
[23:53] <hedkandi> cool
[23:54] <hedkandi> can you enter like su root?
[23:54] <LjL> !root
[23:54] <aron_> Hello I'm new to linux, is it true that user and root passwords only matters for physical access?
[23:54] <hedkandi> sudo is a pain!
[23:54] <LjL> aron_: uhm, what do you mean?
[23:54] <LjL> hedkandi: why?
[23:54] <hedkandi> cos you have to keep entering your passwd
[23:55] <LjL> hedkandi: not true.
[23:55] <LjL> hedkandi: 1) by default, sudo is configured to not ask the password again for about 15 minutes
[23:55] <aron_> Well why does ubuntu tell me to have a six character password that I have to enter all the time
[23:55] <LjL> hedkandi: 2) you can type "sudo -i" and then go on with your commands, if you know that you'll need to be root for a while
[23:55] <hedkandi> 15 mins isn't much time
[23:55] <hedkandi> When I'm on a fedora system I just login as root! it's so much easier.
[23:55] <LjL> hedkandi: it can be changed, although it seems plenty of time to me
[23:56] <yuanmin> why my ubuntu 9.10 continue ask me the key of my wifi  every 5 minutes when i have already connected to my wifi?
[23:56] <LjL> hedkandi: and also so much more foolish and dangerous
[23:56] <Mazn> never mind, i just needed to rightklick
[23:56] <LjL> we don't support that here
[23:56] <Mazn> puss
[23:56] <zane> lol
[23:56] <hedkandi> LjL: the word is "convenient"
[23:56] <hedkandi> Some of us have a clue and don't do stupid things... I dunno about you.
[23:56] <Ozzah> Hi, every time I press ctrl+shift my keyboard layout changes from english to ascii.  Does anybody know how to disable this? I never use it anyway.
[23:56] <sam_> anyone know of a web based (in a browser) face to face webcam chat that works on ubuntu? oovoo does one but I can't get the page to load
[23:56] <boingolov> this is messed up
[23:57] <helltraum> Anyone help me please, I'm trying to configure firestarter on a remote server via ssh, I run the wizard, setup rules to allow ssh but as soon as I start the firewall it severs my ssh session, it basically blocks everything no matter what rules I apply
[23:57] <LjL> hedkandi: stupid things like running an IRC client as root?
[23:57] <erUSUL> rootshell | hedkandi
[23:57] <erUSUL> !rootshell > hedkandi
[23:57] <yuanmin> why my ubuntu 9.10 ask me the password of my wifi  every 5 minutes where i have already connected to my wifi?
[23:59] <ibuclaw> helltraum, do you have *only* firestarter as the frontend interface that is ON ?
[23:59] <yuanmin> LjL: why my ubuntu 9.10 ask me the password of my wifi  every 5 minutes where i have already connected to my wifi?
[23:59] <bertmanphx> I used CZ to image a drive, then put the new drives in.  It didn't work, so when I put the old drives back, somehow grub was on them
[23:59] <aSt3raL> how do you set up secure e-mail in ubuntu?
[23:59] <bertmanphx> can anyone help me?
[23:59] <LjL> yuanmin: uh... i wouldn't know that.
[23:59] <ibuclaw> ie: ufw - the default in Ubuntu - is installed on the server edition
[23:59] <yuanmin> LjL: ok, thanks :)
[23:59] <erUSUL> aSt3raL: secure email as in OpenPGP?
[23:59] <aSt3raL> maybe?