[06:01] <GoDawgs> amphi: Compaq V2000Z completely with an ATI 200M and Broadcom 4318 (evil one) WLAN
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  ya gotta intall some package.. and it should work. i forget the name :P
[06:02] <rickyg> amphi, ok
[06:02] <yggdras> hmm
[06:02] <intelikey> rickyg better to use the package manager "synaptic" and install from the repos.   easier for all of us.
[06:02] <yggdras> dr_willistic
[06:02] <yggdras> dr_willis from synaptic ?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  'hpoj' server or somthing I recall.. for my HP1200 printer/scanner
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  of course. :P
[06:02] <jetscreamer> jedrick: where did the fstab come from then
[06:02] <yggdras> yar
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> !info hpoj
[06:02] <GoDawgs> so far i can only get the ATI card to work... the broadcom just NOW got recognized with Flight 4 but still doesn't work... i hope that it will once Dapper is officially released
[06:02] <ubotu> hpoj: (HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj)), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.91-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1336 kB
[06:02] <stephelton> amphi, i can imagine
[06:02] <yggdras>  thanks
[06:02] <anggels> hai....................
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  i was suprised at how well it worked. :P
[06:02] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, I want to learn that Python Language whatever its about if thats what the new powerful language is...
[06:02] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: It's those damned ATI cards...
[06:03] <jetscreamer> try hplij iirc
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> yggdras,  then the wife took her scanner back.
[06:03] <yggdras> haha
[06:03] <yggdras> well i had it sitting i garage for 4 months
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> jetscreamer,  may be right. there may be 2 packages
[06:03] <yggdras> wlel see
[06:03] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I understand it's an easy language to get up to speed on.  Though honestly, I know absolutely NOTHING about it. :(
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> !info hplij
[06:03] <jetscreamer> !find hpi
[06:03] <jedrick> jetscreamer: fstab comes from the root. in /etc/fstab
[06:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'hpi' (5 shown): foomatic-db-hpijs ;; hpijs ;; hping2 ;; hping3 ;; phpix.
[06:03] <wastrel> python, there was an article about it today on digg
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> !find hpoj
[06:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'hpoj' (2 shown): hpoj ;; hpoj-xojpanel.
[06:03] <mathcaddy> I have a Toshiba 7020CT laptop (366 mhz pentium II) and I just installed ubuntu on it. Everything works GREAT -- except the screen resolution is locked in to 640x480 when it's capable of 1024x768. There are no other resolutions available besides 640x480 in the resolution settings.
[06:04] <jetscreamer> jedrick: how did you get that file if all your linux files are visible in partition magic
[06:04] <swiity_> Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:04] <OmegaAlpha> I wonder how many linux programs now already are compiled with it
[06:04] <jetscreamer> jedrick: i'm not seeing the problem yet
[06:04] <jetscreamer> or grokking
[06:04] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I'll all about the bleeding edge.... so giving bug info and trying to help people in the chat channels is how i"m trying to contribute to the community which I adore.  With your programming skills, I see you helping with the kernel in no time!
[06:04] <wastrel> mathcaddy:  try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   (at the command line)   then log out & in again
[06:04] <FlannelKing> mathcaddy, how much RAM do you have on it? (not that it would affect your resolution)
[06:04] <Luna> hey there
[06:04] <amphi> GoDawgs: did you get it up and limping along? ;)
[06:04] <Evodawg> <----- My email signature  "You can lead them to LINUX but you can't make them THINK" If you tore down the WALLS you would not need WINDOWS or GATES!!!  HAHAH
[06:04] <mathcaddy> wastrel: thanks I'll try that! :-)
[06:04] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  python is an interpreted language.
[06:05] <Luna> can anyone tell me how to enable fast writes on my AGP card?
[06:05] <GoDawgs> amphi: Which one are you referring to?  The broadcom?
[06:05] <mathcaddy> FlannelKing: 192 mb (which is the max)
[06:05] <jetscreamer> no because you didn't say which vid card
[06:05] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: that's a GREAT siggie
[06:05] <Luna> sorry
[06:05] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ?
[06:05] <FlannelKing> mathcaddy, you're lucky, Ive got an older one thats too slow for ubuntu with 40mb ;)
[06:05] <amphi> GoDawgs: the whole thing
[06:05] <jetscreamer> jedrick: are you running the linux atm?
[06:05] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, heh from sitting in here and reading others situations as well is awesome. find out alot of info
[06:06] <jedrick> jetscreamer: no, im on my windows
[06:06] <intelikey> too slow for ubuntu ?
[06:06] <amphi> GoDawgs: I had a quick look at linux-laptop.net and tuxmobil.org, but the nearest similar model I found had very different hw
[06:06] <GoDawgs> amphi: actually the interpretation of the video card is working quite well.... and the wlan card, well at least it's being recognized.  I'm just waiting for the driver to be perfected.
[06:06] <Luna> Nvidia 6200
[06:06] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I know... it's a wealth of fantastic knowledge
[06:06] <killapop> I use a Toshiba Satellite A10.... the only problems i had with hardware was with the wireless
[06:06] <amphi> GoDawgs: a howto for your laptop would be appreciated, I'm sure
[06:06] <jetscreamer> nvidia, you add to /etc/modules  nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_ReqAGPRate=8 or so
[06:07] <GoDawgs> amphi: they also offer the V2000 with intel wlan and such...
[06:07] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, do alot of programs use it currently?
[06:07] <swiity_> Haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:07] <killapop> amphi: there is quite a lot of laptop-how-tos on the ubuntuforums site
[06:07] <GoDawgs> amphi: i hate intel with a passion so I always go with other great companies such as AMD (which I have the Turion64) ... its great!
[06:07] <amphi> GoDawgs: yeah, that's what I found - intel wifi and video card
[06:07] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  python is sortof like perl, it's a scripting language.  there are gui toolkits that use python, and it's popular for web programming.  i don't think a lot of linux sw is written in it...
[06:07] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, alot of times its like hmmm i why didnt i think of that or oh good someone else has a problem like mine. but they already had my prob and then tell me how to fix it
[06:07] <jetscreamer> jedrick: ok so why do you not have a line for /var in the fstab anymore
[06:08] <mathcaddy> wastrel: any idea how much memory I should tell it to use?
[06:08] <GoDawgs> amphi: Yeah, I didn't have the slightest interest in Linux at the time so I didn't know that I needed other hardware to be LInux friendly... I do now!  Live and learn...
[06:08] <eobanb> swiity_, if you don't have anything useful to say, then leave.
[06:08] <wastrel> mathcaddy:  typically that's left blank iirc
[06:08] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: And that's what good community is for....
[06:08] <Luna> jetscreamer: Thanks..is it necessary to restart the system, or just X?
[06:08] <jetscreamer> luna i believe i read reboot, the modules need to be reloaded.
[06:08] <jetscreamer> but not positive
[06:08] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, yep so on this source o matic. does it lack any other packages i should add?
[06:09] <amphi> GoDawgs: intel are being pretty good about the ipw2200 driver
[06:09] <Luna> all right. Thanls
[06:09] <jetscreamer> Luna: you may need to make sure agpgart and...
[06:09] <drcode> hi all
[06:09] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: You know, I'm not sure.  At the moment, I don't think so.  You'd actually need to compare repo lists with others and find out why they use the different ones you don't have.
[06:09] <jetscreamer> any other isn't loaded, and put in xorg.conf... one moment...
[06:09] <Evodawg> Waiting for Intel's Nano Processor
[06:09] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: That's my best recommendation.  I'm really sorry!
[06:09] <jedrick> jetscreamer: dunno, maybe i mess it up when i redo boot grub and i remember that i change some settings on disk partiton, the / swap and /var, i think i change the /var into /boot.
[06:09] <drcode> any one know how I can optmize Jpeg in linux , I want to change into 1 bit color and size?
[06:09] <intelikey> r&r kernel modules,  safest to reboot, but not always nessary
[06:10] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: No offense, but Intel can kiss my fat... a$$
[06:10] <GoDawgs> :)
[06:10] <intelikey> es
[06:10] <jetscreamer> 	Option		"RenderAccel"		"True"
[06:10] <jetscreamer>         Option		"NoLogo"		"True"
[06:10] <jetscreamer> 	Option		"NvAGP"			"1"
[06:10] <amphi> drcode: gimp if you want gui, or imagemagick if you don't
[06:10] <eobanb> drocode, The GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Programme) will be able to do it.
[06:10] <jetscreamer> in the device section for the card
[06:10] <jedrick> jetscreamer: i redo the boot grub cause i can't boot to my linux when i install a fresh installation on windows
[06:10] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: Have you heard their latest scheme to edge out AMD?
[06:10] <Evodawg> you won't say that when it comes out with the Nano
[06:10] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, its cool thanks for the help though. You've done well soldier!. haha
[06:10] <eobanb> drcode*
[06:10] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: Oh I certainly will!
[06:10] <Luna> jetscreamer: Yes. I have those.
[06:10] <jetscreamer> jedrick: grub has nothing to do with fstab
[06:10] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Not bad for a girl, huh? :)
[06:10] <amphi> drcode: jpeg will not do 1bit 'colour'
[06:10] <tuxcicles> i noticed inet is not running, doesn't ubuntu run inetd natively?
[06:10] <drcode> 4 bit
[06:10] <intelikey> jetscreamer where'd you learn to flood like that ?  form jedrick ?
[06:11] <jetscreamer> nah from GoDawgs
[06:11] <drcode> is there command that I can optimize it?
[06:11] <jetscreamer> :) sorry
[06:11] <eobanb> drcode, with 4-bit colour you're probably better off using GIF or PNG.
[06:11] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: They've collaborated with Skype to offer certain conference functions to ONLY INTEL users......
[06:11] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, pssh I would figure girls are better at computers than guys are...
[06:11] <amphi> GoDawgs: what is it? not Itanic again ;)
[06:11] <Evodawg> it will make the AMD  look like its standing still
[06:11] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha:  I can't say that... I just know that girl Linux users are few and far between. :)
[06:11] <jetscreamer> jedrick: your /var seems to be a seperate partition
[06:12] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: I didn't catch that....
[06:12] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what shall i do then?
[06:12] <amphi> Evodawg: what is this wonder?
[06:12] <drcode> its software that still I need jpg
[06:12] <jetscreamer> jedrick: cat /proc/mounts
[06:12] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, they have the higher resistance to pain threshold :) and better patience
[06:12] <intelikey> but that's cause linux is so geekie
[06:12] <jetscreamer> in an xterm... ah heck no linux
[06:12] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: LOL .... :)
[06:12] <drcode> eobanb: do U know how I can optmize it?
[06:12] <jetscreamer> oh wait....
[06:12] <drcode> I Have lots of jpeg
[06:12] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Patience?  Oh, I don't think so...... at least not from this one. :)
[06:12] <aranis> dapper/flight-4 = daily/current? the timestamps seem right
[06:12] <djmccormick_> i realize this is probably asked often, though i'm looking for a more reliable method than i've used in the past. i have a lot of mp3 music that isn't going to be able to be switched to an open format. is there an easy way to play these formats that won't ruin my 5.10 install?
[06:12] <jetscreamer> you're not in linux so it's not mounted.
[06:12] <amphi> drcode: jpeg will not do < 8bpp, I'm not sure it'll even do 16bpp
[06:13] <jedrick> jetscreamer: can i just point it to var using a live cd.
[06:13] <drcode> I see
[06:13] <Evodawg> Intel has been working on a nano processor for years and their getting close
[06:13] <stephelton> amphi, hmmm when i use screen and do vim and hit [end]  it gives me the "Wuff Wuff" routine and then both increments the cursor position and capitalizes the last one... wtf?!
[06:13] <tatters_> intellkey  I am getting error "cannot write to ice" thats seem to be stopping me logging in any idea?
[06:13] <drcode> it mean in creating it?
[06:13] <amphi> stephelton: heh
[06:13] <wastrel> !mp3
[06:13] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:13] <amphi> stephelton: use ctrl-e for end ;)
[06:13] <jetscreamer> jedrick: ok so which partition is it that holds your /var... hda8? hda3?
[06:13] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: I'm sure it'll be kick butt...   I only take rubbish from end users like you when I'm being paid for it, get some manors and realise the community supports you out of their own time and resources.
[06:14] <amphi> stephelton: bad terminfo on the remote?
[06:14] <jedrick> jetscreamer: hda4
[06:14] <stephelton> amphi, huh?
[06:14] <Evodawg> its suppose to be 1000 times faster than the fastest processor today
[06:14] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, this laptop i have... if only i could write a program to tell it how close it came to being flung off the wall many times lol
[06:14] <jedrick> jetscreamer: oh it's hda6 cause my root is hda5
[06:14] <amphi> stephelton: ncurses terminfo - you might need to install putty terminfo, or change putty's term emulation perhaps; it's been a while since I used putty
[06:14] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: but is it the lappie or the OS? :)
[06:15] <crouchingMonkey> can anyone tell me how to get xchat to join #ubuntu after connecting to the server? (dont feel like typing ./j #ubuntu every time)
[06:15] <jetscreamer> but hda6 says swap
[06:15] <jetscreamer> jedrick:
[06:15] <drcode> k
[06:15] <stephelton> amphi, oh i'm not using putty atm
[06:15] <drcode> thanx
[06:15] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: the closest I've come to that was due to Winblows....
[06:15] <jedrick> jetscreamer: then it's hda7
[06:15] <amphi> stephelton: what are you running it in?
[06:15] <stephelton> amphi, i  use putty when i'm at work...
[06:15] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: But I totally see where you're coming from.... :)
[06:15] <Evodawg> GoDawgs:  everyone is making deals at the moment
[06:15] <stephelton> amphi, a shell running on xorg on arch linux
[06:15] <jetscreamer> jedrick: /dev/hda7       /boot           ext3    defaults        0       2
[06:15] <jetscreamer> gah
[06:15] <stephelton> amphi, eterm to be exact
[06:16] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: And they aren't all evil........ you know what I mean?
[06:16] <Evodawg> But I'm hoping open source will kick in there someday
[06:16] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, most likly windows. even though the peice of shh.Plastic likes to get hot and turn off..well hasnt yet with linux :)
[06:16] <amphi> stephelton: what terminal emulator?
[06:16] <GoDawgs> Evodawg: It's one thing to "one up" your competition but to screw the end users is ridiculous.
[06:16] <wastrel> stephelton:  you're using putty?  you should have said that.  i belive putty has settings for "backspace sends delet" and "delete sends backspace" or similar
[06:16] <jedrick> jetscreamer: then it's hda8
[06:16] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: Yeah, I get the heat thing too... sucks major butt
[06:16] <amphi> stephelton: xterm? rxvt? gnome-terminal?
[06:16] <Evodawg> its starting to make it's impact
[06:16] <Lil-Abner> Hi all. I just upgraded my main computer and I'm new at all this stuff, can anyone tell me if the thermal grease is already on an AMD Sempron PIB?
[06:16] <stephelton> wastrel, no i'm not using putty, but i do frequently
[06:16] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, ok on the source.list once i save the new one and run sudo apt-get update will it download and install anything because everything is already installed.. i guess
[06:16] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: mine hasn't shut off though.... i'm really good at keeping it low temp with a teeny tiny fan
[06:17] <stephelton> amphi, eterm
[06:17] <stephelton> amphi, oh emulator?
[06:17] <amphi> stephelton: perhaps try xterm or rxvt
[06:17] <pianoboy3333> I need printer help, I have an hp LaserJet 1000 connected to a Dell with XP, the GUI won't detect it, help?
[06:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick, if it's really hda8, add  /dev/hda8  /boot  ext3  defaults  0  4  to your fstab
[06:17] <jetscreamer> err
[06:17] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: I'm not following... let me reread.
[06:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick, if it's really hda8, add  /dev/hda8  /var  ext3  defaults  0  4  to your fstab
[06:17] <amphi> stephelton: FWIW, mrxvt is very nice
[06:17] <stephelton> amphi, as in ... i'm confused... on the client i'm ssh'ing in from i'm using eterm. is that what you're asking?
[06:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick: how did your fstab get changed
[06:17] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ?
[06:17] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: No.  When you run apt-get update... it updates your repositories so that you CAN download programs.
[06:18] <amphi> GoDawgs: you have cpu freq scaling running there?
[06:18] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, will there be conflicts is what im saying if it happens to install or place a file that already exists...
[06:18] <intelikey> he has a /boot entry already....
[06:18] <jetscreamer> add /dev/hda7       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4
[06:18] <Evodawg> does Ubuntu use Cups
[06:18] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: You see what i Mean?
[06:18] <jetscreamer> err 8
[06:18] <amphi> stephelton: yeah
[06:18] <jedrick> jetscreamer: dunno maybe when i run the winmac_fstab file
[06:18] <GoDawgs> amphi: I don't think so.
[06:18] <OmegaAlpha> GoDawgs, ok thats what i thought. just wanted to make sure
[06:18] <tatters_> I am getting error "cannot write to ice" it is  stopping me logging iin to desktop but failsafe terminal still works any idea how to fix this?
[06:18] <amphi> GoDawgs: also, undervolting your processor can help heat a lot
[06:18] <jetscreamer> add /dev/hda8  /var  ext3  defaults  0 4
[06:18] <jedrick> jetscreamer: i will add /dev/hda7       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4  ?
[06:18] <GoDawgs> OmegaAlpha: There could be.  I had them.  So I deleted the Kubuntu repos and reran apt-get update and was just peachy,
[06:18] <jetscreamer> jedrick: change the 7 to whichever it is
[06:19] <jetscreamer> or the 8
[06:19] <phantasmoholic> Anyone using radeon mobility 9000 graphics card able to help me out
[06:19] <GoDawgs> amphi: Oh really?  I didn't know that.  How would one do that?
[06:19] <jetscreamer> jedrick: if it's not ext3, change that to auto
[06:19] <Will78> has anyone in here upgraded CentOS 3.5 to 4.2 my friend is getting flamed in #centos by their staff
[06:19] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what if i change both to /var is it ok?
[06:19] <intelikey> "winmac_fstab"  probably so
[06:19] <amphi> GoDawgs: I got mine down from >70C under load to max 50C
[06:19] <jetscreamer> no
[06:19] <GoDawgs> phantasmoholic: I have an ATI 200m..... will that help?
[06:19] <stephelton> amphi, mrxvt is nice, though i wont remember that name 10 minutes from now
[06:19] <GoDawgs> amphi: Impressive!
[06:19] <jedrick> jetscreamer: it's ext3
[06:19] <jetscreamer> jedrick: just add the line, and if it's not 8, put the correct number
[06:20] <jetscreamer> don't have two saying hda7 (for now)
[06:20] <fufo> how can i know who are using a file??
[06:20] <Lil-Abner> I've got my computer put back together, but it won't boot up at all. No screen of any kind.
[06:20] <trappist> fufo: lsof
[06:20] <jetscreamer> fufo: lsof maybe
[06:20] <jetscreamer> :( slow
[06:20] <intelikey> fufo lsof | grep file
[06:20] <amphi> GoDawgs: this is a pentium m, there's a patch that makes the cpu freq/voltage table configurable by sysfs - dunno if there's an equiv for your proc
[06:20] <intelikey> fufo lsof | grep <file>
[06:20] <Lil-Abner> I'm using my spare computer for now.
[06:20] <GoDawgs> amphi: well, i'll definitely check
[06:20] <jedrick> jetscreamer: i'll add this one?  /dev/hda7       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4
[06:21] <fufo> oks, thanks
[06:21] <mathcaddy> wastrel: no luck. It's still 630x480. It even detected 1024x768 as a default and didn't even want to keep 800x600 or 640x480 as options! I restarted it and the same result. Also: it has a black empty area on the right side and on the bottom.
[06:21] <jetscreamer> jedrick: make it /dev/hda8 since you said it was on hda8
[06:21] <pianoboy3333> !printer
[06:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:21] <pianoboy3333> !smb
[06:21] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pianoboy3333
[06:21] <jetscreamer> jedrick: but yeah
[06:21] <jetscreamer> !samba
[06:21] <ubotu> methinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:21] <jedrick> jetscreamer: so i'll add this one?  /dev/hda8       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4
[06:21] <amphi> GoDawgs: I use mprime in torture mode for testing - if the voltage is too low, it should report errors quickly, or crash, or the kernel will panic
[06:21] <GoDawgs> amphi: there probably is a patch for the AMD... I'll definitely check... thanks for the heads up!
[06:21] <phantasmoholic> Anyone able to help me configure a dual head monitor setup on a radeon mobility 9000
[06:21] <GoDawgs> amphi: you're quite skilled....
[06:21] <jetscreamer> jedrick: yes, and if it's really on hda8, and has your /var files, it should function
[06:22] <pianoboy3333> I need printer help, I have an hp LaserJet 1000 connected to a Dell with XP, the GUI won't detect it, help?
[06:22] <tatters_> intelikey: any idea how to get write access on bootup for "ICE"?
[06:22] <amphi> GoDawgs: I did that for each freq my proc supports, and found a stable value by trial and error
[06:22] <pianoboy3333> HELP!'
[06:22] <GoDawgs> amphi: I'm not nearly as ambitious as you are
[06:22] <GoDawgs> amphi: I'm quiet impressed. :)
[06:22] <jedrick> jetscreamer: what if it's not?
[06:22] <yggdras> how do i add a user to access su ?
[06:22] <jedrick> jetscreamer: change to hda7
[06:22] <jetscreamer> jedrick: change the 8 to the correct #
[06:22] <amphi> GoDawgs: I just happened on a howto at the thinkpad wiki
[06:22] <Evodawg> pianoboy3333:   try cups  if ubuntu supports it
[06:22] <jetscreamer> jedrick: you already have a line for hda7
[06:22] <intelikey> tatters_ where prezactly ?
[06:22] <GoDawgs> amphi: right on
[06:22] <wastrel> mathcaddy:  yuck!  ok what video card do you have?
[06:22] <mathcaddy> wastrel: neomagic
[06:23] <Evodawg> not sure I'm a Mandriva guy
[06:23] <mathcaddy> wastrel: it's detecting it correctly.
[06:23] <jetscreamer> jedrick: and your /boot is needed, so it's probably not hda7
[06:23] <jedrick> jetscreamer: so only the 8 or so on
[06:23] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: I have an HP 1200.....
[06:23] <jetscreamer> jedrick: yeah or just trial & error, if 8 don't work, try 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.....
[06:23] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: can I see ur /etc/cups/printers.conf file? put it in the pastebin or something
[06:23] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: You can use Samba too... if the Dell machine is not what you're using.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> you can use the gnome-cups config tool to set up windows shared printers...
[06:24] <jetscreamer> jedrick: next time just use one partiton or lvm
[06:24] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ok
[06:24] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: I'll do what ever if it works, I have samba installed
[06:24] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: I just did a reinstall... I haven't added it yet.  I upgraded to Dapper through Flight 4 image.
[06:24] <amphi> GoDawgs: the voltages are different for each processor, if your unlucky you will not be able to reduce much - I could not reduce as much as some claim to have
[06:24] <intelikey> quack my fellow manduck
[06:24] <tatters_> well after I did the command you gave I cannot login to any desktop I am getting "cannot write to ice" error but can only access fail safe terminal
[06:24] <yggdras> how do i add a user to access su ?
[06:24] <tatters_> everything loads normally just cannot get any desktop
[06:24] <jetscreamer> tatters: you have some old tmp file or root pwned your ~
[06:24] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: hold on a sec... i'm looking up something for you
[06:24] <jetscreamer> iirc
[06:25] <wastrel> mathcaddy:  check this for your video, seems to be the same prob you're describing   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32651&highlight=neomagic
[06:25] <Evodawg> tatters tried   login as startx/
[06:25] <intelikey> tatters_ do you get a gdm login prompt or does xserver fail ?
[06:25] <tatters_> I know have gnome and kde desktop but both fail to load becuase I have no write access to "ICE
[06:25] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: have you seen this?  http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1000
[06:25] <jedrick> jetscreamer: will i just add /dev/hda8       /var           ext3    defaults        0       4  . at the bottom?
[06:25] <pianoboy3333> no lemme look
[06:25] <jetscreamer> jedrick: yeah or wherever
[06:25] <tatters_> I get gnome and kde login screen
[06:25] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333:  towards the middle of the page should be your solution
[06:26] <jedrick> jetscreamer: ok
[06:26] <ipfw> its amazing how this net can be so slow IRC is the only thing that still works :P
[06:26] <jetscreamer> oh boy
[06:26] <mathcaddy> wastrel: wow. you're incredible. yeah. that's exactly what I'm experiencing. I've been digging around in the forums for a couple hours and couldn't find anything. I didn't think to search for the driver name. (duh!) I'll check this out. thanks.
[06:27] <intelikey> tatters_  go to a terminal and  "rm ./.*authority"     then login normal    you ran something with sudo in the gui didn't you ?
[06:27] <jetscreamer> it's .ICEauthority iirc
[06:27] <jetscreamer> there's another as well... .Xauth or so
[06:27] <tatters_> dunno I did exactly what u said in regards to that kdissert  package
[06:28] <intelikey> tatters_ it's a lock file telling on you for using sudo <gui_app> in place of  gksudo <gui_app>   :)
[06:28] <tatters_> I dunno is it?
[06:28] <tatters_> and that means ?
[06:28] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: i don't know what I'm looking for....
[06:29] <stephelton> amphi, it would appear that the backspace issue was eterm's fault... now if i can configure mrxvt to use a smaller font i'll be good to go
[06:29] <wastrel> eterm heh i used to use that
[06:29] <stephelton> amphi, thanks for your help
[06:29] <tatters_> so I go to terminal and type "rm ./.*authority"
[06:29] <stephelton> =P
[06:29] <wastrel> i like aterm better tho
[06:29] <stephelton> aterm eh
[06:30] <intelikey> just means that you don't own the lock file so you cant remove or write to it....    it's a safty precaution...  just remove   /home/tatters/.*authority   and you should be fine as frogs hair split four ways.
[06:30] <tatters_> lol
[06:30] <aranis> anyone working with dapper/flight-4 have any problems with reiserfs?
[06:30] <stephelton> so many terminals )=
[06:31] <billwray> can anyone assist with installing dapper...already running breezy
[06:31] <wastrel> stephelton:  i broke down and started using gnome-terminal once i abandoned windowmaker
[06:31] <wastrel> stephelton:  now i'm addicted to the tabs
[06:31] <stephelton> wastrel, ew.
[06:31] <intelikey> !upgrade
[06:31] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:31] <aranis> what stephelton said :-)
[06:32] <stephelton> wastrel, thats why i'm kind of liking mrxvt
[06:32] <intelikey> !upgrade to dapper
[06:32] <Jormundgand> (gnome-screenshot:20823): gnome-vfs-modules-WARNING **: Failed to create client: Daemon not running
[06:32] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[06:32] <Jormundgand> !dapper
[06:32] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.
[06:32] <jsgotangco> hmm
[06:32] <jsgotangco> do we have a list of boot parameters?
[06:32] <stephelton> wastrel, i gave up gnome a long time ago and i'll never turn back
[06:32] <mebaran151> I have a Realtek 8139 ethernet
[06:32] <Jormundgand> (gnome-screenshot:20823): gnome-vfs-modules-WARNING **: Failed to create client: Daemon not running <-- what daemon?
[06:32] <mebaran151> card
[06:32] <intelikey> well there is an info node on it some place....
[06:32] <mebaran151> compared to the onbaord nforce4 ethernet
[06:32] <mebaran151> will the performacne be abysmal?
[06:33] <amphi> mebaran151: 8139 is not _that_ bad
[06:33] <eugman> what text to speech options are available? I am perfectly capable of reading but I have a bulk of information I need to get through and I would prefer to be able to listen to it all.
[06:33] <tatters_> sry intelikey can u post that command again there is cache when  i log  back on to terminal :/
[06:33] <mebaran151> I only have a 10/100 network anyway, but will there terrible performance ramifications
[06:33] <amphi> eugman: festival is one
[06:33] <mebaran151> can I stream DivX over my LAN over it?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> eugman,  'festival' is a text->speach prog
[06:33] <tatters_> forgot to write it down
[06:33] <billwray> i've made several .iso cd for dapper. Can't get them to boot. Booting fromc cd doesn't seem possible till the linux kernel is loaded, then it's too late
[06:33] <amphi> mebaran151: I'd say so
[06:33] <eugman> k
[06:33] <stephelton> mebaran151, yeah
[06:33] <mebaran151> the nforce4 stupid card has ActiveArmor, which just makes my life hell
[06:34] <stephelton> mebaran151, you using a hub?
[06:34] <mebaran151> nope
[06:34] <amphi> mebaran151: wtf is that?
[06:34] <mebaran151> switch
[06:34] <intelikey> tatters_   sudo rm /home/tatters/.*authority
[06:34] <stephelton> mebaran151, you should be ok then
[06:34] <amphi> mebaran151: 8139too module works well
[06:34] <tatters_> k thnx
[06:34] <intelikey> err the sudo is not needed i think
[06:34] <mebaran151> amphi, they built a hardware firewall in it
[06:34] <mebaran151> I have a pretty solid hardware firewall
[06:34] <mebaran151> so I don't need it
[06:34] <stephelton> mebaran151, gigabit wouldn't hurt though ;)
[06:34] <intelikey> i think you'll already be root.
[06:34] <mebaran151> but it's very helpful; it filters ping and dhcp
[06:34] <jetscreamer> sudo chown -R tatters:tatters /home/tatters
[06:34] <amphi> mebaran151: great :(
[06:34] <mebaran151> and causes me intense pain
[06:35] <intelikey> but in any case tatters_ thats the command.
[06:35] <mebaran151> and only windows knows how to tell it to connect to anything
[06:35] <mebaran151> it was a pretty spiffy performer though
[06:35] <zebraFusion> suppose I had a bunch of files... files1, files2, file3, ect in a folder... and wanted to rename all of them all with the same structure, like songfile1, songfile2, is that possible?
[06:35] <zebraFusion> with one command... I mean
[06:35] <mebaran151> zebraFusion, I think rename does that
[06:35] <amphi> zebraFusion: man rename
[06:35] <zebraFusion> using mv file newfFileName
[06:36] <mebaran151> or search apt, tons of programs have been written to do crazy things like
[06:36] <zebraFusion> meh, oh well.
[06:36] <mebaran151> zebraFusion, you can name them by tag with easytag...
[06:36] <wisie> hey guys, just wondering if anyone could take a look at this paste? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8938  i seem to get that error often when i try anything to do wiht mysql.. (just tryting to get it going for first time)
[06:36] <intelikey> zebraFusion yep
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> 'rename' command is for tasks like that - I do belive.
[06:36] <amphi> zebraFusion: or for i in file*; do mv $i song$i; done
[06:37] <darthbutcher> Anyone here use the new Dapper Drake release?
[06:37] <darthbutcher> I am about to switch to it.
[06:37] <stephelton> i hate to be a noob... but can anyone hint me as to how i'd change the font size in aterm?
[06:38] <yggdrasil> ok guys
[06:38] <billwray> can boot the new dapper cd before the existing linux kernel loads
[06:39] <intelikey> zebrafusion   find $BASEDIR -type f -name *$OLDEXT -uid $UID -exec fix.ext --work "{}" "$OLDEXT" "$NEWEXT" \;   <---  you would need to replace the  $VERIABKES with real information.  but that will do what you are talking about recursively  and if you only want one dir that is much easier.
[06:39] <billwray> cannot boot...
[06:39] <wastrel> stephelton:  seems like alt->  and  alt-<  to change font size
[06:40] <zebraFusion> intelikey, you're crazy. Thanks.
[06:40] <GoDawgs> Belly full.  Mama happy.
[06:40] <jetscreamer> billwray: sounds like it's not booting from the cd
[06:40] <intelikey> lol  don't mention it...
[06:40] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: Did you see the PM I sent you?
[06:40] <billwray> right
[06:40] <bshumate> wisie: you'll get an error like that if there is already a password set for the user (root, in your example there) and you are not supplying it with the '-p' switch.
[06:40] <darthbutcher> I am going to try something extremely odd.
[06:40] <rjcute> hi
[06:40] <jetscreamer> billwray: so it's either the cd or the bios boot setting
[06:40] <intelikey> please, really; don't ever mention it again.
[06:40] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: no, I can't recieve PM's i'm not registred
[06:40] <Ashex> !grub
[06:40] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:40] <ipfw> wastrel, starting to get the hang of this ubuntu stuff, and what scares me is -- I think I like it ;)
[06:41] <stephelton> wastrel, dont think so
[06:41] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: oh well then that would be a problem... i have a solution (I think)
[06:41] <tatters_> intelikey: I got a desktop again :)
[06:41] <ipfw> !tor
[06:41] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ipfw
[06:41] <wastrel> stephelton:  heh just reading the man page :]
[06:41] <mebaran151> is the onbaord Realtek 8139 ethernet far worse than the nforce4 solutions
[06:41] <billwray> tried cmd line boot but kernel has to be loaded first
[06:41] <mebaran151> they're both built in my mainboard
[06:41] <ipfw> hmm
[06:41] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: looks like there was a bug in breezy... but apparently there is a fix... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/foo2zjs/+bug/6017
[06:41] <intelikey> tatters_ np.
[06:41] <jetscreamer> billwray: use the kernel on the cd
[06:41] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: try that
[06:41] <wisie> bshumate: interesting, if I was to remove sql and reinstall it and start a frresh would I be able to reset a password for it?
[06:41] <mebaran151> and I was wondering if it was worth the effort to scour teh bios for a way to disable app armor
[06:41] <tatters_> yah thnx
[06:41] <pianoboy3333> ok
[06:41] <amphi> mebaran151: dunno anything about the nforce thing, but 8139 is quite usable
[06:41] <billwray> can you tell me how?
[06:42] <tatters_> can u explain in laymens terms kinda what happened there?
[06:42] <rjcute> da
[06:42] <stephelton> wastrel, ohh... there's a concept ;)
[06:42] <rjcute> hi to all fuckerssssssssssssssss
[06:42] <wastrel> stephelton:  how about shift & numpad +/-
[06:42] <amphi> mebaran151: it puts a bit more load on the cpu than say an intel
[06:42] <jetscreamer> tatters: root pwned your homedir.
[06:42] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: get the .deb?
[06:42] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: then dpkg -i?
[06:42] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: I believe so.
[06:43] <slide> How can i see what version of a package i have installed (the package bin doesnt have a 'version' argument)
[06:43] <rjcute> eqe
[06:43] <billwray> i em stupid
[06:43] <rjcute> hi
[06:43] <rjcute> fuck u allllllllllll
[06:43] <intelikey> you issued some command (it's probably in your .bash_history file) that called a gui app via sudo which in turn set the .ICEauthority file  i.e. it was owned by root so your user could no longer access it.
[06:43] <jetscreamer> billwray: the kernel is there, grub can do it. but no i don't know anything about how livecd's are structured. you either have a bum cd, or the bios isn't set to boot from cdrom first.
[06:43] <Evodawg> slide: package -ver
[06:43] <intelikey> tatter_ ^
[06:43] <stephelton> wastrel, i'm on a laptop (no numpad)
[06:44] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: to actually implement the .deb file, I'm unfortunately not the one to go to.
[06:44] <billwray> jetscreamer: thankyou
[06:44] <slide> Evodawg, ty
[06:44] <pianoboy3333> kk
[06:44] <jetscreamer> billwray: i've noticed sometimes that linux cd burning solutions don't quite cut it.
[06:44] <tatters_> So theres been no major system wide change that command had reveresed the affect?
[06:44] <GoDawgs> rjcute: Please ... language like that is not tolerated.
[06:44] <amphi> pianoboy3333: dpkg -i package_name will install the deb, or try to
[06:44] <wastrel> stephelton:  that's a stumper :]    you can specify font strings with command line args and in the config file.
[06:44] <GoDawgs> rjcute: If you have a question, please ask it.
[06:45] <chris_> Wow!  I made it.  I install Ubuntu!  Yeahhhh!
[06:45] <stephelton> wastrel, config file is good... would it be ~/.atermrc or something like that?
[06:45] <bshumate> wisie: you don't necessarily have to do that- there are other ways to reset the password.
[06:45] <jetscreamer> heh
[06:45] <intelikey> tatters_ all we have done on your system tonight is correct a "user specific" permissions error.   no system wide anything.
[06:45] <mebaran151> as I've been waiting in windows dll'ing the dapper iso
[06:45] <mebaran151> I've noticed, Netscape 8.0 is really nice
[06:45] <tatters_> ok ,well thnx for your time and knowledge intelikey again much appricated
[06:46] <intelikey>  tatters_  as far as i have been involved anyway.
[06:46] <jetscreamer> mebaran151: very mozilla like, wouldn't you say?
[06:46] <mebaran151> there should be Netscape for Linux; I know that it's Mozilla deep down
[06:46] <tatters_> happy u could pull me out the mire
[06:46] <amphi> heh
[06:46] <jetscreamer> try the 'classic' skin
[06:46] <rjcute> hi fuck ur selffffffffffffffffffff
[06:46] <mebaran151> but the gui is nicer
[06:46] <mebaran151> oh
[06:46] <GoDawgs> pianoboy3333: I have to get going...  but I will be back on later.  I'll talk with you later.
[06:46] <jetscreamer> hey same to ya bud
[06:46] <pianoboy3333> GoDawgs: kk
[06:46] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[06:46] <amphi> !ops
[06:46] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[06:46] <chris_> hello
[06:46] <jetscreamer> !lart bob2
[06:46] <intelikey>  tatters_ the good thing is, if you ever run into the same problem again, you "should" remember how to address it.
[06:46] <jetscreamer> darn
[06:47] <GoDawgs> amphi: I can't kick him..... I don't see anyone here who can.
[06:47] <amphi> heh
[06:47] <tatters_> yes theres the rub , remebering everything
[06:47] <Inf3ctedFx> I have some issue with my wireless . its a laptop... ubuntu recognize the wireless fine... I was connected before using wireless not I can't make it work... anybody has an idea?
[06:47] <amphi> GoDawgs: /ignore -replies is always there, the beloved oubliette
[06:47] <GoDawgs> amphi: I like your style. :)
[06:47] <intelikey>  tatters_  that's what .bash_history is for.... :)
[06:47] <jetscreamer> that's why microsoft gives away pads of paper with their logo on it
[06:47] <jetscreamer> or that
[06:47] <tatters_> :)
[06:48] <GoDawgs> Goodnight everyone. :)
[06:48] <jetscreamer> no bash history
[06:48] <jetscreamer> in windows
[06:48] <wastrel> stephelton:  hmm actually i don't see anything in the man file for that
[06:48] <mebaran151> whoa; Java IRC is nice
[06:48] <tatters_> yah I keep forgetting to save it when I reinstall :P
[06:48] <amphi> mebaran151: ugh ;)
[06:48] <mebaran151> using the Hedinux Java IRC webclient
[06:48] <jetscreamer> save /home
[06:48] <tatters_> is that contained in the home folder?
[06:48] <jetscreamer> yeah
[06:48] <mebaran151> they should include this in Ubuntu as well
[06:48] <intelikey> jetscreamer sure there is.  install bash for windows and it keeps a history file.....
[06:48] <jetscreamer> .bash_history
[06:48] <bshumate> wisie: did you try completely removing mysql and reinstalling already? that may get what you need in a sledgehammer to a thumbtack sort of way. ;-)
[06:48] <tatters_> gotcha
[06:49] <amphi> mebaran151: irssi forever ;)
[06:49] <mcquaid> anyone find locate isn't reliable?
[06:49] <wisie> bshumate, mind if i pm for a sec?
[06:49] <mebaran151> amphi, I like irssi too
[06:49] <mebaran151> but is there irssi for win?
[06:49] <mcquaid> from time to time, it doesn't index files
[06:49] <amphi> mcquaid: you have to updatedb
[06:49] <bshumate> wisie: sure thing
[06:49] <mcquaid> i know, it's a cron job i run nightly
[06:49] <mcquaid> i mean files that have been there for months sometimes don't get indexed
[06:50] <mcquaid> really annoying
[06:50] <trkorecky> What do I do with a .jar file?
[06:50] <amphi> mcquaid: I've never noticed that
[06:50] <intelikey> mcquaid locate/slocate use a database  unless you  'updatedb' the information can be old/out of date
[06:50] <mcquaid> intelikey, i just mentioned i have it run nightly
[06:50] <mcquaid> i'm talking old files
[06:50] <bshumate> trkorecky: execute it, with : java -jar <something.jar> ?
[06:51] <intelikey> mcquaid  that is why i just use 'find'   slower but acurate
[06:51] <mcquaid> yes thats what i end up using as well
[06:51] <mcquaid> but locate is so much faster, it's a shame it seems to randomly miss files
[06:52] <amphi> mebaran151: in cygwin perhaps
[06:52] <rjcute> hi
[06:52] <amphi> o, dear
[06:53] <wastrel> <3 locate
[06:53] <rjcute> where do u leave?????????????
[06:53] <amphi> rjcute: a/s/l/u
[06:53] <wastrel> what's u, haven't seen that before
[06:53] <amphi> wastrel: uptime ;)
[06:54] <wastrel> heh
[06:54] <wastrel> this is a laptop so, not very impressive
[06:54] <n1xt3r> Just wanted to shout out a thanks to all those that work on Ubuntu. I just finished setting up dual boot Win98+Ubuntu and installing Windows is was by far the worst and most time consuming process. Cheers!
[06:54] <wastrel> anyway downloaded a new kernel last week
[06:54] <intelikey> it's only "really" faster if you can't or don't narrow the search.   i.e.  find / -name gdesklets   will search the whole system while   find /uur -name gdesklets is much quicker because it doesn't search any place but /usr   and the more you can narrow the search the faster it gets.
[06:54] <rjcute> >:)
[06:54] <tanubis> win98
[06:54] <rjcute> fuck\
[06:54] <Evodawg> intelikey:  just reminded me to updatedb
[06:54] <ipfw> Feb 20 00:54:18.324 [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (114). You must fix this to proceed.
[06:54] <ipfw> Feb 20 00:54:18.324 [err]  options_act(): Couldn't access/create private data directory /va
[06:54] <rjcute> yessssssssssssss
[06:54] <trkorecky> How much better is the 64 bit version of Ubuntu in comparison to the 32 bit?
[06:54] <ipfw> why am I getting this, I'm root atm ?
[06:55] <amphi> wastrel: do you ever shut yours down? I just use swsusp
[06:55] <ipfw> should I sudo apt-get install tor instead of just apt-get install tor ?
[06:55] <llODxCOll> gggggggggggggg
[06:55] <wastrel> amphi:  i shut it down yeah usually
[06:55] <amphi> swsusp works well here
[06:56] <intelikey> ipfw yes all installs unless very special user specific, should be root
[06:58] <redblade> Hello everyone!
[06:58] <dcm> Greetings redblade !
[06:58] <redblade> Hope you're all have a fantastic day!
[06:58] <yggdrasil> what do you all use for peer to peer mp3 download
[06:59] <redblade> I do however have a Frostwire
[06:59] <redblade> oops
[06:59] <dcm> yggdrasil: I'd don't use anything for pirating music, sorry :(
[06:59] <redblade> that came out all wrong
[06:59] <pottsy> nicotine  is decent yggdrasil
[06:59] <yggdrasil> hah
[06:59] <amphi> yggdrasil: scp
[06:59] <yggdrasil> somehing thats on synaptic :(
[06:59] <yggdrasil> god i feel so dirty
[06:59] <wastrel> scp isn't peer to peer
[06:59] <wastrel> well i suppose it is
[06:59] <amphi> heh
[06:59] <wastrel> but in a different sense
[07:00] <redblade> yggdrasil, I use FrostWire.
[07:00] <redblade> It's on Automatix
[07:00] <phate> yggdrasil: My own VPN based P2P torrent network
[07:00] <ipfw> intelikey, this is nuts, I was trouble shooting package/perm issues when the real problem was it didn't assign <IP_ADDRESS> to lo on boot for some reason :P
[07:00] <intelikey> i get all my warez at <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:00] <iceman> what6s the current linux release of america's army .... ?
[07:00] <Quinch> Can someone tell me how to install DRI for ATI9600SE card?
[07:00] <jetscreamer> !info bittornado
[07:00] <ubotu> bittornado: (bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface), section net, is optional. Version: 0.3.11-4ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 148 kB, Installed size: 840 kB
[07:01] <_jason> intelikey: 404 :/
[07:01] <amphi> !ati
[07:01] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:01] <amphi> !fglrx
[07:01] <ubotu> somebody said fglrx was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:01] <ipfw> intelikey, whats the easiest way to mod the startup scripts to make sure it does that ?
[07:01] <jetscreamer> ati+xorg==:(
[07:01] <roostishaw> whats xorg?
[07:01] <jetscreamer> x.org
[07:01] <amphi> jetscreamer: it's fine with my trailing edge hw ;)
[07:01] <roostishaw> iv heard it before
[07:01] <ipfw> intelikey, where are the interface scripts in this like eth0.sh lo.sh etc ?
[07:01] <iceman> anyone know america's army game current release for linux
[07:01] <jetscreamer> the aa site might
[07:02] <jetscreamer> try et
[07:02] <amphi> ipfw: man 5 interfaces
[07:02] <ipfw> amphi, thanks man
[07:02] <intelikey> edit /etc/init.d/hostname.sh  i suppose ipfw    but check and make sure that /etc/hosts  is correct
[07:03] <jetscreamer> i'd like to know how they got x.org for a name... sounds like it mighta cost.
[07:03] <intelikey> also make sure there is a symlink in /etc/rcS.d/   for hostname ipfw
[07:04] <trkorecky> Where can one get mplayer?
[07:04] <wastrel> !mplayer
[07:04] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:04] <amphi> !mplayer
[07:04] <lilo> !ops
[07:04] <ubotu> Help! seb128, lilo, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[07:04] <lilo> ah
[07:04] <trkorecky> Thanks
[07:05] <ipfw> intelikey, its all setup right, not sure why it wasn't up :P
[07:05] <lilo> probably someone could have messaged me on that problem
[07:05] <fabbione> lilo: ?
[07:05] <lilo> fabbione: I was just checking to see if I'd been added to the list
[07:05] <fabbione> lilo: ok
[07:05] <lilo> fabbione: sorry to disturb!
[07:05] <fabbione> no problem :)
[07:05] <DanC_u> hmm... I upgraded to dapper, but now X is hosed.
[07:05] <intelikey> ipfw before you edit hostname.sh run it and see if it works or errors.
[07:05] <ejofee> how do i make my fonts render more nicely but without using the silly antialias?
[07:05] <wastrel> hello
[07:05] <redblade> Okay, now my problem is with my server.
[07:06] <ipfw> another stupid question, since I started that synaptic package manager, it keeps putting itself in the system tray after I close it -- How do I get rid of it ?
[07:06] <redblade> I'm not sure i understand something:
[07:06] <DanC_u> how does gdm know to start /usr/bin/Xorg ? It seems to have /usr/bin/X in gdm.conf
[07:06] <redblade> Is the server the actual site? or can it have many sites on it?
[07:06] <ipfw> intelikey, works fine
[07:06] <intelikey> ipfw that is the update daemon
[07:06] <amphi> DanC_u: X is probably a symlink
[07:07] <jetscreamer> a server can host many websites if that's what you asked
[07:07] <djmccormick_> everything looks too big. it's like resolution doesn't matter, it just makes stuff bigger. how can you decrease the site of stuff in general?
[07:07] <ipfw> intelikey, yeah but it locks my junk.. and I want to use apt-get instead at times etc
[07:07] <houman_zhu> hello, i need a bit of shell script help here, if i am looping through a directory files how do i check if they have a certain extension?  like :  for i in `ls -R` here how do i check if the file is a bmp?
[07:07] <DanC_u> hmm... ls -l /usr/bin/X doesn't show a symlink
[07:07] <intelikey> you can kill it with sudo top     or ps -A x and kill the process
[07:07] <djmccormick_> houman_zhu, ls *.bmp
[07:08] <mebaran151> does Xgl work in 64 bit dapper yet?
[07:08] <DanC_u> any idea how the /usr/bin/X symlink is supposed to be set up?
[07:08] <houman_zhu> djmccormick_: but i have to search recursively in all the subdirectories, so i cant drop the ls -R and replace it with *.bmp
[07:08] <intelikey> ipfw man kill    man ps    man top     man killall        i like ps && killall personally.
[07:08] <mebaran151> I have a shiny nvidia video card that needs some testing
[07:08] <BlazedForever> does ubuntu have a firewall running by default or something, azureus says it cat get through a udp port ecause its firewalled?
[07:08] <amphi> djmccormick_: perhaps check that dpi 75 is set in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[07:08] <slide> I am trying to compile postfix (specifically so i can get support for dovecot) and im getting this error message, http://pastebin.com/563939
[07:09] <pulver> xgl is cool but whatever happend to vr... as in the movies
[07:09] <mebaran151> any of you run Xgl on 64 bit Dapper
[07:09] <chubibo> yeah
[07:09] <ipfw> intelikey, thats all good and well if I can find out what it calls itself in the process table :P
[07:09] <redblade> jetscreamer, I used apache 2.2.0 to set up a server but I'm having a few problems.
[07:09] <redblade> If you could help me it would be greatly appreciated
[07:10] <intelikey> ipfw that's why i like ps  :)
[07:10] <mcquaid> i see slocate hasn't been updated since jan 03
[07:10] <DanC_u> when I try to `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart` it pauses, then says X can't start and offers to show logs; but the log it shows is empty
[07:10] <mcquaid> and there are some bugs in it missing files with unusual directory structures
[07:10] <mcquaid> debating on compiling beta 3 which was released jan of this year
[07:10] <intelikey> side note ps top and kill/all  don't work on a system that doesn't mount /proc   in case anyone ever runs into that....
[07:11] <pulver> 3d glasses, gloves, mmm vr
[07:11] <jetscreamer> redblade: no idea
[07:11] <BlazedForever> does ubuntu have a firewall running by default or something, azureus says it cat get through a udp port ecause its firewalled?
[07:11] <mike_123> i need help installing my broadcom wireless card
[07:11] <redblade> jetscreamer, that's okay
[07:12] <intelikey> BlazedForever not by default. no.
[07:12] <redblade> Is anyone here able to help me with a small server problem?
[07:12] <jetscreamer> ^web
[07:12] <Jormundgand> redblade: Maybe. =P
[07:12] <mebaran151> redblade: just as no question is stupid, no problem is small ;), but sure
[07:12] <intelikey> BlazedForever ps -A x | grep iptables
[07:12] <slide> I am trying to compile postfix (specifically so i can get support for dovecot) and im getting this error message, http://pastebin.com/563939 Can anyone help?
[07:13] <mebaran151> where can I petition to have lighttpd added to Ubuntu universe even
[07:13] <amphi> BlazedForever: er, iptables -L
[07:13] <mebaran151> I prefer that webserver over heads
[07:13] <redblade> Jormundgand, My problems are two fold, but the latter can wait for later. : )
[07:13] <slide> mebaran151, i would like too also, if you find out, pm me :)
[07:13] <Jormundgand> slide: You need to install the dependencies for compiling dovecot.
[07:13] <slide> Jormundgand, thats postfix that im trying to compile right now and im not sure what dependencies it needs =\
[07:14] <Jormundgand> sudo apt-get build-dep postfix?
[07:14] <redblade> Jormundgand, I have set up a server and it has a test site on it, but I don't know where the source file for it is so i can change it!
[07:14] <Jormundgand> source file for what?
[07:14] <slide> Jormundgand, that doesnt do anything =\
[07:14] <redblade> Jormundgand, the .HTML file.
[07:14] <tga1> what's a nice multi-machine backup app?
[07:14] <Jormundgand> redblade: /var/www?
[07:15] <redblade> Jormundgand, I checked there but I could not see it.
[07:15] <amphi> redblade: where is DocumentRoot?
[07:15] <intelikey> tga1 tar
[07:15] <redblade> I'll check, amphi
[07:15] <jedrick> jetscreamer: still there?
[07:15] <Jormundgand> redblade: try `slocate www`.
[07:15] <redblade> Okay
[07:15] <tga1> intelikey, har har funny
[07:16] <intelikey> '/
[07:16] <jetscreamer> yeah... for a bit.
[07:16] <OmegaAlpha> highvoltage, can someone help me. I got this error twice on my boot up initialization screen ''
[07:16] <tga1> OmegaAlpha, uhoh, that's a serious error
[07:16] <highvoltage> OmegaAlpha: what's the error message?
[07:16] <pottsy> haha
[07:16] <jedrick> jetscreamer: man it's still not working, can i just past the /var files on my root var?
[07:16] <jetscreamer> jedrick: i take it it's still not working
[07:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick: yes you can
[07:17] <OmegaAlpha> 'Warning. /etc/modprobe.conf exist but does not include /etc/modprobe.d' and for some reason my laptop keeps freezing up ever since
[07:17] <jetscreamer> jedrick: remove that line you added, or comment it out with a # in front
[07:17] <jedrick> ok
[07:17] <redblade> Jormundgand, it threw up a lot of info.
[07:17] <OmegaAlpha> highvoltage, whoops didnt mean to say your name. i was actually typing hi, can some... i must of hit tab heh
[07:18] <jedrick> ill just paste the all the /var file into the root var, i think the /var file has more files than the root var
[07:18] <Jormundgand> redblade: look for one which looks promising.
[07:18] <malt> Hello can i point my domain to my ip if i put these settings on my linux pc ubuntu at my house in /etc/resolv.conf search domainname and then under that nameserver myip could i host a domain that way?
[07:20] <redblade> Jormundgand, something weird just happened
[07:20] <treakath> hey all
[07:20] <chubibo> hi everyone!!
[07:20] <chubibo> what?
[07:21] <redblade> I scanned my comp using Nmap and port 80 is closed
[07:22] <redblade> also 32771 to 32787 are open.
[07:22] <redblade> yesterday, port 80 was open and the others weren't.
[07:22] <robbie_> hi, is there a fast way to install all of the development tools ill need to compile things from source?
[07:22] <robbie_> e.g. apache, wine
[07:23] <amphi> robbie_: install build-essential
[07:24] <monzie> ebuntu
[07:24] <ruby123> what package can I install to get manpages for C functions, like strncpy() etc.
[07:25] <amphi> ruby123: manpages-dev
[07:25] <ruby123> amphi: thanks!
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> I need to know how to do text replacement in a file with wildcards; can someone help me through that?
[07:25] <stephelton> whats a good fixed-width font thats thin i could use for mrxvt?
[07:25] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  easy with vim
[07:26] <redblade> !topic
[07:26] <ruby123> tonyyarusso: does the file contains wildcards, or do you want to use wildcards to perform the replacement?
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, Yeah?  How?  (Never used vim, btw.)
[07:26] <jetscreamer> manpages-dev
[07:26] <jetscreamer> !info manpages-dev
[07:26] <ubotu> manpages-dev: (Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development), section doc, is optional. Version: 2.02-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1055 kB, Installed size: 2668 kB
[07:26] <redblade> help topic
[07:26] <jetscreamer> try /topic
[07:26] <redblade> oh thanks
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> ruby123, I want to use them in the replacement.  The file and replacing text contain special characters that might need escaping though.
[07:27] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  there's a bit of a learning curve.... heh.   what specifically do you want to do.  and are you familiar with unixy regular expressions ?
[07:27] <jetscreamer> oh i'm slow
[07:27] <monzie> Unixy regexs are beautiful , powerful
[07:28] <ruby123> extended regexps are sexy
[07:28] <stephelton> whats a good fixed-width font thats thin i could use for mrxvt?
[07:28] <redblade> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8939, can someone make sense of this?
[07:28] <asimismo> Evenin' all. I'd like to use LVM on RAID1. I have 2 80 gig drives. I've had some trouble in the past trying this. Anyone done it successfully?
[07:28] <ruby123> stephelton: terminus
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, Some familiarity.  I'm trying to take a Gaim log that was logged as plain text and get to match the html ones.
[07:28] <darthbutcher> I am having a problem.
[07:28] <darthbutcher> Ubuntu does not read my blank disc.
[07:29] <redblade> What do you mean?
[07:29] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  well in vim   :1,$s/foo/bar/g
[07:29] <darthbutcher> It does not come up as selectable.
[07:29] <redblade> What are you trying to do with it?
[07:29] <redblade> oh.
[07:29] <darthbutcher> Download the Dapper Drake iso.
[07:30] <darthbutcher> Wait, got it working!
[07:30] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  that will call up the command line (:)  and starting at the first line (1), through to the end ($)  substitute "foo" for "bar"  through the whole line
[07:30] <redblade> Oh, well good luck with that then
[07:30] <ruby123> wastrel: he can also use sed with the same syntax. sed 's/foo/bar/g'
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, Is that an L or a one? Also, isn't there a cli thing to do this sans vim?
[07:31] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  yes you can use sed as redblade said.  and it's a numeral 1
[07:31] <intelikey> howto tell the differance in lazy and just don't want to work ???
[07:31] <wastrel> s/redblad/ruby123/
[07:31] <wastrel> eh
[07:32] <intelikey> i like sed....  but i don't know much about it really...
[07:33] <wastrel> i like to use vim so i can see what i'm doing :]
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, redblade: Ah.  I thought that was it, and got this: "sed: -e expression #1, char 43: unknown option to `s' "
[07:33] <intelikey> wastrel but not from a script of course.
[07:33] <wastrel> i suppose not
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, redblade: No g on the end when I did that though.
[07:34] <concept10> crap! They took away the Right-click "Open link in Firefox tab" optionsin xchat 2.6.1 in dapper
[07:34] <nomin> what is the easiest to use program for making dvd's?  I want to put some videos from my pc onto dvd so they can be played in a dvd player.
[07:35] <darthbutcher> AIM ON LINUX!
[07:35] <alejandra> hola chicos
[07:35] <Psykus> anyone know where I can tweak the TTY settings under ubuntu/linux?
[07:35] <darthbutcher> !AIM
[07:35] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:35] <wastrel> gaim
[07:35] <darthbutcher> No.
[07:35] <darthbutcher> AIM just released a Linux version@
[07:35] <darthbutcher> http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp=
[07:36] <wastrel> something wrong with gaim?
[07:37] <darthbutcher> Well, I rather use AIM.
[07:37] <merk_> Knnen Sie Deutsch?
[07:37] <concept10> I know. thats what im thinkin
[07:37] <darthbutcher> I use AIM a lot.
[07:37] <intelikey> Psykus /etc/secutity/access.conf /etc/terminfo/*/   what you want to tweek ?
[07:37] <darthbutcher> And Direct COnnect PWNS!
[07:37] <Madpilot> !de
[07:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:37] <merk_> danke
[07:37] <asimismo> So, noone doing LVM on RAID1?
[07:38] <wastrel> does the expression shut your ass up ring any bells
[07:38] <wastrel> heh sry i'm watching a movie
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, redblade: Where can I find a list of what needs escaping?
[07:39] <w32> when I run /etc/init.d/saslauthd start I get the following error : /etc/init.d/saslauthd: line 9 root sasl 755 /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd : no such file or directory .....BUT THE DIRECTORY IS THERE...WTF...any one know what I did wrong ???
[07:40] <redblade> Can someone have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8939
[07:40] <redblade> ?
[07:41] <redblade> I came up when I tried to add some programs from synaptic
[07:41] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  shell special characters   http://www.pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/grep.html#details
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> wastrel, Beautiful.
[07:42] <jjjjjjj> what's that ubotu?  is it a bot?
[07:42] <redblade> yep
[07:42] <w32> I've been following this how to http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4 all has went well up until this  http://pastebin.com/563970
[07:42] <Psykus> intelikey, I meant TTY as in time to live
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> redblade: run "refresh" in synaptic
[07:43] <redblade> thanks
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> *click refresh
[07:43] <jjjjjjj> can I add something to it's database in case someone else is looking for the same solution?
[07:43] <n_i_c_k> What determines whether a USB storage device is treated as removable?
[07:43] <darthbutcher> I can't get this AIM download to work.
[07:43] <asimismo> Would anyone like to make some recommendations on partitioning schemes? I've got 80 gigs
[07:43] <timfrost> !ubotu
[07:43] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:43] <darthbutcher> Does Ubuntu use .rpms?
[07:43] <nomin> how do I make a dvd video on ubuntu?
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[07:43] <redblade> Do bots have feelings?
[07:43] <darthbutcher> Can it use one?
[07:43] <redblade> lol
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> but you can install them with alien if you have to
[07:44] <darthbutcher> k
[07:44] <Madpilot> darthbutcher: get a .deb if you can
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> redblade: ye :p
[07:44] <redblade> : )
[07:45] <wisie> I'm getting this error when I try to start apache2 for the first time 'touch: cannot touch `/etc/apache2/httpd.conf': No such file or directory
[07:45] <wisie> ' I think my brother rm'd the directory argh, is there anything i can do to get it back or reinstall it?
[07:45] <redblade> Kamping_Kaiser, how do I refresh?
[07:45] <darthbutcher> Can anyone help me install AIM?
[07:45] <timfrost> redblade, can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list?  Those errors seem to suggest an error in that file.
[07:46] <redblade> okay
[07:46] <amphi> what is aim?
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> redblade: I'll leave you with timfrost
[07:46] <redblade> juat a minute
[07:46] <jjjjjjj> well if someone asks about thin-client computing maybe send them here:
[07:46] <redblade> just*
[07:46] <jjjjjjj> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/Chapter_5_-_Thin-Client_Computing?highlight=%28thin-client%29
[07:47] <darthbutcher> jjjjjjj https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentati
[07:47] <darthbutcher> http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp=
[07:47] <darthbutcher> There is the link for AIM.
[07:47] <Smeggy> what package(s) do i need to install to get mp3 playback for xine engine?
[07:48] <wisie> anyone around at all? i think ive made a huge mistake
[07:49] <redblade> timfrost, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8940
[07:50] <merp> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu.
[07:50] <merp> I installed the ndiswrapper-utils package from the CD.
[07:50] <intelikey> wisie what mistake ?
[07:50] <wisie> may i pm for a sec?
[07:50] <merp> modprobe ndiswrapper after the install tells me that I'm missing a kernel module.
[07:50] <merp> What do I do?
[07:50] <wisie> i might as well do it here actually so everyone can see
[07:50] <stephelton> where are binaries stored after i apt-get them?
[07:50] <starkej> II'm having a little trouble setting up an Ubuntu Computer.  For some reason, It doesn't seem to recognize the card.  The really wierd thing is the fact thatIt picks it up fine when I'm doing the install
[07:50] <intelikey> one blast, make it good.
[07:51] <zebraFusion> intelikey, I have a question
[07:51] <intelikey> k
[07:51] <wisie> alex@Dub:~$  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start touch: cannot touch `/etc/apache2/httpd.conf': No such file or directory     --- my brother rm'd the etc/apache2 dir.. is she lost forever
[07:52] <zebraFusion> intelikey, I want to tripple boot with gentoo... I have Dapper and Windows XP dual booted with GRUB as my bootloader... what would be the easiest way take HD space out of my Windows partition, make a blank partition and install Gentoo to it.
[07:52] <Protocol1> what will the commands be to upgrade to dapper drake?
[07:52] <zebraFusion> :o
[07:52] <Protocol1> via breezy
[07:52] <ejofee> where are the source files corresponding to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ ?
[07:52] <zebraFusion> Protocol1, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect dapper's repositries.
[07:52] <Madpilot> wisie: you could just uninstall & reinstall the apache2 package, that should recreate the directory...
[07:52] <redblade> Does anyone know what RPC is?
[07:52] <merp> I'm totally screwed.
[07:52] <thelsdj> remote procedure call
[07:52] <merp> I've tried this over and over.
[07:53] <merp> How come ndiswrapper will install but not the module?
[07:53] <merp> Or why isn't there a ndiswrapper module on the CD?
[07:53] <Protocol1> zebraFusion, got ya
[07:53] <Protocol1> thats cool
[07:53] <redblade> Or why I have 11, ports for RPC open?
[07:53] <zebraFusion> Protocol1, if you want I can PM you mine... It's the very basic dapper repos
[07:53] <thelsdj> redblade: which ports?
[07:53] <thelsdj> redblade: lsof|grep <port#>
[07:53] <thelsdj> should tell you what program
[07:53] <jb1> redblade: check out lead item on current freshmeat at http://freshmeat.net It has good basic article on RTP and SIP
[07:53] <intelikey> wisie you mean is there a way to undelete it... short answer yes.  long answer it is not worth the trubble.  make a nes one    or even  apt-get remove apache2 --purge   and reinstall it.
[07:54] <Protocol1> zebraFusion, sure i dont see why not
[07:54] <redblade> 32771 - 32787
[07:54] <jb1> oops...you meant RPC not RTP. sorry.
[07:54] <thelsdj> redblade: like i said lsof|grep 32771 should answer
[07:54] <jb1> RPC is used with NFS
[07:54] <thelsdj> or i should say sudo lsof|grep 32771
[07:54] <darthbutcher> I need AIM help.
[07:54] <ejofee> darthbutcher: any aim?
[07:55] <redblade> gconfd-2, thelsdj
[07:55] <darthbutcher> AIM as in the new 1.5 for Linux.
[07:55] <darthbutcher> I can't get it to install.
[07:55] <redblade> What is this?
[07:55] <intelikey> zebraFusion easiest way is use windows and free up some space  then use ubuntu to make the new partition of the free space and start from there with the install.
[07:55] <intelikey> that is my openion on that.
[07:55] <Madpilot> darthbutcher: gaim is installed by default on Ubuntu...
[07:55] <liquidindian> Using the terminal, how can I remove nonempty directories without deleting each file in the directory?
[07:55] <zebraFusion> intelikey, sounds good. Do you know of a guide or howto for using ubuntu to partition space?
[07:56] <Protocol1> how would I be able to remove kubuntu-desktop via terminal?
[07:56] <thelsdj> redblade: are you sure its actually open to the world or is it just listening on loopback?
[07:56] <intelikey> zebraFusion sure it's called   man cfdisk
[07:56] <darthbutcher> Not GAIM, AIM.
[07:56] <redblade> How can I tell?
[07:56] <darthbutcher> http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp=0
[07:56] <Madpilot> liquidindian: "rm -rf" - use carefully
[07:56] <Psykus> anyone know where I tweak TTY (time to live) settings under linux?
[07:57] <thelsdj> redblade: well how do you know these ports are open?
[07:57] <redblade> Nmap
[07:57] <thelsdj> what ip did you nmap? your ethernet interfaces ip?
[07:57] <zebraFusion> how can I ONLY install the package I want without any recommendations
[07:57] <zebraFusion> like, just the gedit package.
[07:58] <redblade> I nmap'd my private IP
[07:58] <merp> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Ndiswrapper
[07:58] <redblade> I think
[07:58] <Madpilot> darthbutcher: get the deb file, and run "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[07:58] <merp> This says the modules are pre-installed.
[07:58] <ejofee> thelsdj: http://www.grc.com/port_<your_port_here>.html
[07:58] <merp> But, I've looked at this place and know that they aren't.
[07:58] <merp> How do I install them?
[07:58] <GlobalDimming> have any of you been able to make dvd videos on ubuntu?
[07:58] <liquidindian> Madpilot "rm -rf will recursively remove folders and their contents"  What does it mean by that?
[07:58] <merp> I can't find any packages that match this version of Breezy's kernel?
[07:58] <thelsdj> redblade: well it makes a difference, on my computer if i nmap <IP_ADDRESS> it lists more open than if i nmap <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:58] <ejofee> where are the source files corresponding to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ ?
[07:59] <jb1> redblade: if you did the nmap from inside your own network, say from your own box, instead of from outside, it will not be reliable
[07:59] <Jormundgand> liquidindian: It will remove all files, and all directories, and all files in those directories.
[07:59] <Madpilot> liquidindian: it means that it'll remove the folder you aim it at, and everything in that folder
[07:59] <redblade> ah
[07:59] <Jormundgand> (including directories in directories etc)
[07:59] <redblade> I see
[07:59] <intelikey> zebraFusion if there are dependancies you will need to meet them somehow or the package or some of it's functions will not work anyway.... that is why it installs required packages and sujests others....
[07:59] <thelsdj> redblade: if you want to give me your internet ip in private i will nmap you and give you results and that will be a bit more reliable
[07:59] <zebraFusion> intelikey, I understand, but I know for a fact it's installing packages that aren't necessary.
[07:59] <timfrost> redblade, try changing the plf repository from ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/to http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/.  Then run "sudo apt-get update".  I suspect that free.fr FTP site may be mis-configured.
[08:00] <zebraFusion> gedit is trying to install a bunch of printer packages that were running and had an open port... I removed them and now it wants to install them again.
[08:00] <jjjjjjj> well my time is up.  back to the world of windows tomorrow. <sigh>
[08:01] <jjjjjjj> l8r
[08:01] <intelikey> zebraFusion  grab the  .deb and use dpkg    man dpkg    that is as much help as i am willing to give as to breaking your system.
[08:01] <zebraFusion> lol
[08:01] <zebraFusion> Thanks
[08:01] <intelikey> you bet.
[08:02] <intelikey> when you screw up dpkg you will be back whining about it....
[08:02] <aberrant> anyone know an alternative to samba and nfs for serving files between two Ubuntu systems?
[08:02] <myren> Davey: would you mind unbanning 20% of the east coast from #web please?
[08:02] <Madpilot> aberrant: ssh/sftp?
[08:02] <redblade> timfrost, it din't work. I may have done it wrong.
[08:02] <zebraFusion> aberrant... ssh/sftp
[08:03] <aberrant> or anyone know how to increase the file size limit in samba?
[08:03] <timfrost> redblade, what errors?
[08:03] <intelikey> aberrant scp  rsync
[08:03] <redblade> Could yo upast bin the file with the correct info?
[08:03] <redblade> E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[08:03] <aberrant> the problem is I am dd to image a drive to file ...that file would reside on a server
[08:04] <aberrant> on ubuntu1 i want to dd /dev/hda1 //ubuntu2/bigdiskimage.img
[08:04] <aberrant> but samba doesn't like the client writing a file bigger than 2GB
[08:05] <aberrant> can I incrase the file size limit on samba?
[08:05] <mrthorin> anyone having problems with automatix?
[08:05] <timfrost> redblade, change the line to "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free"
[08:05] <Madpilot> !automatix
[08:05] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[08:06] <darthbutcher> Finally, I got it working!
[08:06] <Psykus> under /etc/fstab , how would I specify /dev/hdb5 to be mounted to /mnt/zee automatically upon boot, and accessible to non root users?
[08:07] <ejofee> where are the source files corresponding to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ ?
[08:10] <redblade> timfrost, update seems to be stuck on  "99% [Connecting to ftp.free.fr (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[08:10] <redblade> "
[08:10] <jb1> aberrant: are they two linux boxes you want to share files between?
[08:11] <jb1> aberrant: sorry, reading comprehension seriously lacking tonight. you did say 2 ubuntu boxes. Have you tried sshfs?
[08:12] <aberrant> jbl sshfs..no I haven't
[08:12] <timfrost> redblade, that seems to confirm that ftp.free.fr is down. Press CTRL-C to abort the update, then change the server part of *both* PLF lines (lines 37 and 38) to http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/
[08:12] <jb1> aberrant: it sets up a share on an ssh tunnel. I tried it the other day and it worked just fine.
[08:12] <aberrant> jbl they are two ubuntu boxes...I want to mount a filesystem from system 1 to copy a large file from system2....actually to direct the output of dd
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl  ubuntu1% dd /dev/hda1 //ubuntu2/share
[08:13] <_GoDawgs_> Hey Guys.... what's a program like FileZilla?
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl  ubuntu1% dd /dev/hda1 //ubuntu2/share/bigdiskimage.imb
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl  ubuntu1% dd /dev/hda1 //ubuntu2/share/bigdiskimage.img
[08:13] <_GoDawgs_> I need the GUI interface.
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl is that share a samba share?
[08:13] <aberrant> jbl nfs?
[08:14] <Madpilot> _GoDawgs_: gftp - or the file manager (Nautilus) which does a bunch of basic FTP stuff very well
[08:14] <aberrant> jbl thanks for the pointer...sshfs and google should get me going
[08:15] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: I can always count on you!  Thank you!!!
[08:15] <jb1> aberrant: no not a sambe share. you make yourself a target directory and then tell sshfs to go to the other box and mount the directory you want to copy from to that target directory on your own box. and voila, it appears as if it is locally mounted.
[08:15] <aberrant> jbl sweet...that sounds like what I need...thanks
[08:15] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: I'm curious do you have any reason why I'm gettng this error message when trying to install Samba? samba:  Depends: samba-common (=3.0.14a-6ubuntu1) but 3.0.21a-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:15] <jb1> aberrant: you can apt-get install sshfs and then read the man page, too.
[08:15] <Madpilot> _GoDawgs_: no idea, I've never had to play with samba
[08:16] <aberrant> jbl I'm all over it like nipples on a prize pig ;-)
[08:16] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: What a lucky  duck you are!
[08:16] <darthbutcher> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:16] <darthbutcher> What does that mean?
[08:16] <joey_> i dunno
[08:16] <aberrant> jbl thanks again...g'nite
[08:16] <brownie17> does anyone know when everytime i try to run amaroK it tells me couldn't load thunderbird
[08:16] <Vikim> are you trying to play N
[08:16] <jb1> good luck. let us know how it went
[08:17] <_GoDawgs_> !ubuntu-es
[08:17] <ubotu> _GoDawgs_: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:17] <_GoDawgs_> doh
[08:17] <Madpilot> !es
[08:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:17] <timfrost> _GoDawgs_, pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy samba-common".
[08:17] <_GoDawgs_> thanks Madpilot
[08:17] <trigg3r> hi everyone
[08:18] <trigg3r> greetings from ubuntu-ph
[08:18] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: Ok, give me just a sec to get it
[08:18] <darthbutcher>  Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
[08:18] <darthbutcher> How do I install that?
[08:18] <Ma> hello stf
[08:18] <Gabriel> coucou!!!
[08:18] <Gabriel> ca va ?
[08:18] <Ma> tu vas bien
[08:18] <Ma> lol
[08:19] <Gabriel> oui ca va .. hi...
[08:19] <Jormundgand> !fr
[08:19] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:19] <darthbutcher> !libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[08:19] <ubotu> darthbutcher: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:19] <Ma> jje suis devouneau morte de rire
[08:19] <darthbutcher> !libstdc
[08:19] <ubotu> darthbutcher: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:19] <brownie17> !ubotu ubuntu-es is Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:19] <ubotu> okay, brownie17
[08:19] <Gabriel> scuse j'avais pas vu que tu m'avais tl...
[08:19] <Gabriel> lol...
[08:19] <Ma> pas grave
[08:19] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8941
[08:19] <Gabriel> met serveur autres canal...
[08:19] <Gabriel> serveur : joindre canal...
[08:20] <Ma> tu veux faire une pause aprs comme la dernire fois
[08:20] <_GoDawgs_> !fr
[08:20] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:20] <Ma> alors tu veux'
[08:20] <timfrost> _GoDawgs_, have you installed some dapper packages?
[08:20] <Gabriel> oui si tu veux.. j'ai qqch d'important a te raconter...
[08:21] <Ma> moi aussi
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: I have Dapper Flight 4 installed as of tonight.
[08:21] <Gabriel> j'ai parl tte la nuit sur msn ac Julien.. tu te souviens ? l'homme de ma vie...
[08:21] <cafuego> Eh, waar gaat dit nou weer over?
[08:21] <Gabriel> j'te montrerai une photo....
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> wb Madpilot
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> !FR
[08:21] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:21] <Ma> ha oui et comment tu fai pour crire en rouge?
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> Come on guys......
[08:21] <cafuego> Ma: Please use english here.
[08:21] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: Thank you
[08:21] <Gabriel> j'ai pas ecrit en rouge!!
[08:21] <Ma> viiiiiiiii
[08:21] <Vikim> lol
[08:22] <Una^> _GoDawgs_: flight 4 is out tonight?
[08:22] <darthbutcher> I got AIM working.
[08:22] <Gabriel> ah bon! mdr..
[08:22] <Ma> tu vu ya tout le monde qui veux qu on parle en englais lol
[08:22] <Ma> oui
[08:22] <_GoDawgs_> Una^: I downloaded it last night.
[08:22] <Gabriel> ch pas.. c venu tt seul alors..
[08:22] <Ma> tu veux aller  quel leur  la pause?
[08:22] <Gabriel> mdr..
[08:22] <darthbutcher> !english
[08:22] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[08:22] <Ma> mdr
[08:22] <Gabriel> quand tu veux...
[08:22] <Una^> _GoDawgs_: oh right, ty
[08:22] <_GoDawgs_> Gabriel: Ma: Please speak english in here.... NOT french.
[08:22] <Gabriel> Met serveur.. joindre un canal....
[08:22] <Ma> ch
[08:22] <Ma> pas
[08:22] <_GoDawgs_> Una^: no problem
[08:22] <Ma> ch pas
[08:22] <darthbutcher> !englais
[08:22] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darthbutcher
[08:22] <cafuego> Ma: Nee, dat is niet zo.   Please speak it in the french discussion.
[08:23] <intelikey> oh is that franch ?
[08:23] <_GoDawgs_> \Yep
[08:23] <cafuego> intelikey: oui
[08:23] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: hehehehhehe
[08:24] <Ma> stf tu vas dans l'autre canal la ????
[08:24] <Madpilot> !tell Ma about fr
[08:24] <Gabriel> oui je pars
[08:24] <_GoDawgs_> !tell Gabriel about fr
[08:24] <cafuego> Merci
[08:24] <Ma> oki
[08:24] <_GoDawgs_> Finally.
[08:24] <darth> hello
[08:24] <_GoDawgs_> darth hello
[08:25] <darth> ive installed apache2 and php5 and mysql-common
[08:25] <darth> via apt
[08:25] <cafuego> and you're missing mysql-server and php5-mysql ?;-)
[08:25] <darth> and when i try to start apache2.. it comes up with
[08:25] <timfrost> _GoDawgs_, your sources.list is mixing breezy and dapper.  samba  3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 is a breezy package, and  3.0.21a-1ubuntu1 is a dapper package.  I suggest that you edit sources.list and change *all* occurrences of "breezy" to "dapper", then try again
[08:26] <redblade> timfrost, that came up with the same error.
[08:26] <darth> (98)address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80   no listening sockets available, shutting down  unable to open logs
[08:26] <redblade> could you js past bin what the file is supposed to say?
[08:26] <cafuego> darth: ok, something is already listening on port 80. 'sudo netstat -nap | grep :80'
[08:27] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: ok... I thought at this point one could use breezy pkgs since dapper isn't officially released
[08:27] <Protocol1> !ogle
[08:27] <ubotu> Protocol1: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:27] <_GoDawgs_> timfrost: i'll give that a go now.... thank you so much for your help!
[08:27] <timfrost> redblade, strange.  I just did an update using the PLF web server.
[08:27] <foampeace> !ubotu java
[08:27] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:27] <thelsdj> anyone know if theres a chance network-manager and nm-applet will make it into default dapper install? seems like a must have
[08:28] <cafuego> _GoDawgs_: Yes, you shouldf use breezy, but you should also NEVER EVER mix packages; it leads to pain.
[08:28] <intelikey> !!
[08:28] <ubotu> intelikey: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:28] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: understood... hence, what i'm doing now!
[08:28] <_GoDawgs_> :)
[08:28] <timfrost> _GoDawgs_, You hagfe the dapper version of samba installed, and are trying to install a breezy package that *requires* the breezy version of samba.
[08:28] <cafuego> nm-applet?
[08:28] <cafuego> !info nm-applet dapper
[08:28] <_GoDawgs_> oh oh oh ... so I already have it installed?
[08:29] <pilgrim> Why do I get nothing from "sudo whoami"?
[08:29] <Vikim> anyone know how to execute an xmodmap configuration at boot
[08:29] <_GoDawgs_> I didn't see it in my synaptic as such.
[08:29] <_GoDawgs_> hmmm....
[08:29] <thelsdj> nm-applet is the applet frontend for network-manager
[08:29] <cafuego> ah ooh er
[08:29] <darth> it said tcp6 0   0 :::80    :::*       LISTEN   2
[08:29] <cafuego> darth: nothing else?
[08:29] <intelikey> Vikim put the command in one of the init scripts
[08:29] <darth> and it said: 1110/apache2
[08:29] <cafuego> darth: Ok, so apache is already running.
[08:30] <darth> ohhh
[08:30] <thelsdj> cafuego: seems very user unfriendly to not have a wireless network browser in the default install, and as far as i know there isn't one?
[08:30] <Vikim> in /etc/rc2.d ?
[08:30] <intelikey> Vikim sure
[08:30] <cafuego> darth: If you want to reload its config; run 'sudo apache2ctl graceful'
[08:30] <darth> thankyou..
[08:30] <darth> what does the graceful do
[08:30] <sagarp> can i use the official nvidia 8178 drivers and xgl? or do i have to use nvidia-glx from the repositories
[08:31] <darth> an do i stop it?
[08:31] <cafuego> sagarp: You on dapper?
[08:31] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: how many repos should you have anyway?
[08:31] <cafuego> darth: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[08:31] <sagarp> cafuego yeah
[08:31] <cafuego> _GoDawgs_: at least 1.
[08:31] <intelikey> Vikim any runlevel... they are by default equal 2-5 in ubuntu
[08:31] <cafuego> sagarp: The repo versions works fine with Xgl.
[08:31] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: hehhee... yeah i kinda got that... thanks :)  I meant after the basics
[08:32] <sagarp> cafuego, i know but i want to run the latest 8178..because without them when i run glxinfo | grep Direct, it says "no"
[08:32] <cafuego> _GoDawgs_: Depends... pobably at least restricted; also universe and multiverse depending on needs.
[08:32] <intelikey> Vikim if you need it ran early use something in /etc/rcS.d/
[08:32] <cafuego> sagarp: Then it's not loading something it ought to be.
[08:32] <lopsa> after i have used a free DNS Service and pointed the domain to my ip what would i do next for like setting my to tell that domain what folder to direct to or to alow it to be hosted
[08:32] <Protocol1> sick flight 4 is available
[08:32] <lopsa> domain i ment at end by my
[08:32] <darth> ok it says apachectl not found
[08:32] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: ok.... sounds good... I just saw one for openoffice and skype and stuff.... so I thought one might need them individually
[08:33] <Vikim> intelikey: i just need it run before metacity links its keyboard commands to the keys
[08:33] <Madpilot> !tell _GoDawgs_ about repos
[08:33] <_GoDawgs_> anyone know why ex-chat is giving me TWO messages each time someone sends me something in the channel?
[08:33] <_GoDawgs_> it's odd
[08:34] <intelikey> Vikim i think i'd use rcS.d  and bootmisc  but that's just me.
[08:34] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: I know about repos... for the most part... I used source-o-matic to get the ones I have.
[08:34] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: But thank you so much!
[08:35] <Vikim> intelikey: what is bootmisc?
[08:35] <nibblesmx> i just installed banshee in ubuntu dapper and it's giving me this funky error about not creating the 'playbin' gstreamer plugin. can anyone help me?
[08:35] <newbuntie> _GoDawgs_: you're seeing this twice, but messages in the room not addressed to you are only displayed once?
[08:36] <_GoDawgs_> nope, those are twice also newbuntie
[08:36] <_GoDawgs_> cute nick too newbuntie
[08:36] <Madpilot> _GoDawgs_: the 2nd & 3rd URLs in the bot's msg have 'standard' sources.list setups for Breezy & Dapper, if you need to rebuild yours
[08:36] <intelikey> Vikim the script bootmisc    ls /etc/rc?.d
[08:36] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: Noted.  Thanks ;)
[08:36] <Vikim> oh nevermind duh
[08:37] <newbuntie> _GoDawgs_ might be the server you're using, try reconnecting...and thx
[08:37] <_unstable> Can anyone do apt-cache policy wifi-radar and give me the link to the deb?
[08:37] <slide> Does anyone know where I can get a deb for postfix 2.3?
[08:38] <lamp420> hi, I have a usbdrive that I'm using in ubuntu that isn't having free space freed when I delete files from it.  I've tried reformating the thing, etc
[08:38] <lamp420> any ideas on why this is happening?
[08:38] <_GoDawgs_> newbuntie: good idea... I shall momentarily
[08:38] <slide> lamp420,  probably because the files are going into the trash
[08:38] <slide> check the .trash folder
[08:38] <wastrel> wifiradar isn't packaged
[08:39] <lamp420> ahh
[08:39] <lamp420> slide, thanks
[08:39] <slide> np :)
[08:39] <_GoDawgs_> Madpilot: That was a great link.  Thank you so much.  I've rebuilt my sources.list based on that post by Seveas
[08:39] <Protocol1> !dvd
[08:39] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[08:40] <slide> I want to upgrade a package from sources (not a package source) but other packages i need depend on that package, how do i remove it and install from source and still keep the depending packages?
[08:41] <johanbr> slide: sudo dpkg -P packagename . -P also removes configuration files for that package, I forget what the "keep config files" option is called.
[08:41] <intelikey> -r
[08:41] <opmckgsp4> hello dear
[08:42] <slide> johanbr, so install all the packages and then forceably remove the one i want to upgrade?
[08:42] <johanbr> slide: Yes.
[08:42] <slide> k thanks :)
[08:43] <johanbr> slide: Since you're installing a newer version from source, you probably want the -r rather than the -P option.
[08:43] <intelikey> well that should be a note to all that have so repetedly scolded me,   I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT LIKES TO BREAK THINGS.....
[08:43] <intelikey> :)
[08:43] <slide> hehe
[08:43] <slide> no, its the lack of updates that break it for me heh
[08:45] <pilgrim> Why do you guys get when you type "sudo whoami" in a terminal?
[08:46] <pepsi> you'd get the real user
[08:46] <wastrel> root
[08:46] <pilgrim> I get nothing
[08:46] <wastrel> super
[08:46] <pepsi> oh i do get root
[08:46] <pilgrim> pepsi, root makes sense
[08:46] <pepsi> shouldnt it be me though?
[08:46] <intelikey> i get bash; sudo command not found
[08:46] <pilgrim> because sudo = do as superuser
[08:46] <wastrel> pilgrim:  and what do you get if you don't use sudo

[08:47] <pepsi> i see
[08:47] <pepsi> USERT gets set to root
[08:47] <pepsi> but USERNAME stays the same
[08:47] <slide> ok, when i sudo dpkg -r postfix, i get this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/ytPRg787.html
[08:47] <pepsi> USER rather
[08:47] <amphi> pilgrim: that's $USER ;)
[08:47] <wastrel> pilgrim:  and sudo su root ; whoami
[08:47] <pilgrim> amphi, sorry :)
[08:47] <intelikey> sudo echo "$USER"
[08:48] <pilgrim> wastrel, I get my username (gezim)
[08:48] <wastrel> pilgrim:  if you sudo su root and run whoami?
[08:48] <pilgrim> insidious, 0
[08:48] <pilgrim> insidious, that's nothing BTW
[08:48] <insidious> heh, okay
[08:49] <pilgrim> wastrel, my username
[08:49] <wastrel> heh your shell is weird
[08:49] <wastrel> pilgrim:  grep root /etc/passwd
[08:49] <pilgrim> wastrel, people have said that about me but not my shell
[08:50] <johanbr> slide: Okay. You have a couple of options: 1) Install a dummy postfix package using equivs. 2) Leave the old postfix in place and install the source package to, say, /usr/local. In that case, you probably need to tweak some init scripts. 3) Get the postfix source package from dapper and rebuild it to create a proper package. The third option is the one that I think is most esthetically appealing.
[08:50] <pilgrim> root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash  (hint, my pass is not x for those of you who don't know)
[08:50] <herede> i'm planning to install Ubuntu on my home PC, but unfortunately, my CD/DVD drive is broken. does ubuntu provide some way of istalling through the network or something?
[08:50] <wastrel> your password is in /etc/shadow
[08:50] <intelikey> pilgrim we'd need you to run that on /etc/shadow  methinks   lol
[08:50] <wastrel> pilgrim:  well i dunno that looks fine.  some weirdness with shell environment or something maybe
[08:51] <pilgrim> lol
[08:51] <herede> whats wrong
[08:51] <pilgrim> herede, sudo whomai >>> nothing
[08:51] <herede> weird
[08:51] <pilgrim> LOL
[08:51] <herede> nothing as in NOTHING?
[08:51] <pilgrim> maybe I'm spelling it wrong in shell to
[08:51] <pilgrim> too
[08:51] <herede> i mean, no output at all
[08:51] <pilgrim> yeah
[08:51] <herede> ...
[08:51] <slide> johanbr, hrm, where would i find the source package from dapper?
[08:52] <pilgrim> gezim@laptopi:/usr$ sudo whoami
[08:52] <pilgrim> gezim@laptopi:/usr$
[08:52] <herede> sudo /bin/bash?
[08:52] <wastrel> pilgrim:  sudo echo foo
[08:52] <pilgrim> herede, NULL (nothing, again)
[08:52] <herede> is this a newly installed box?
[08:52] <pilgrim> wastrel, nothing.
[08:52] <johanbr> slide: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/postfix
[08:53] <slide> johanbr, ty :)
[08:53] <pilgrim> herede, nothing...arr I mean no it's not
[08:53] <herede> pilgrim: but you've lost the root password or what?
[08:53] <slide> johanbr, hrm, that only has 2.2.8, i need 2.3
[08:53] <pilgrim> herede, what makes you think so?
[08:53] <intelikey> looks to me like pilgrim's sudo is borkeddd
[08:53] <herede> pilgrim: nothing, just wondering
[08:53] <wastrel> your shell environment is g00fy  what terminal are you using.  are you in a screen session?
[08:53] <wastrel> yeah or sudo is broken
[08:53] <herede> so it's *just* sudo?
[08:54] <pilgrim> walkingice, no, no screen.
[08:54] <pilgrim> herede, shell responds fine otherwise.
[08:55] <wastrel> pilgrim:  drop to console & log in and try
[08:55] <pilgrim> maybe I should tell about what I was trying to accomplish. I was trying to create a folder in /usr/ called "installed" and I wanted a group called "install" I got these two but when I tried to chown of the folder didn't happen, and I'm here.
[08:55] <pilgrim> wastrel, nothing.
[08:56] <pilgrim> my windows experience tells me I should restart.
[08:56] <johanbr> slide: Ok. What do you need 2.3 for, specifically?
[08:56] <wastrel> pilgrim:  did you edit the passwd file without using vipw ?
[08:56] <slide> johanbr, to get auth working with dovecot
[08:56] <pilgrim> wastrel, nope. I did it with groupmod and usermod
[08:57] <ike_> apache2 has stopped parsing php files.  Is there any easy way to reinstall the whole setup, configuration files and all?
[08:57] <intelikey> looks to me like pilgrim's sudo is borkeddd
[08:57] <herede> is it possible to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu from the network? cause my DVD drive is fucked?
[08:57] <pilgrim> intelikey, looks to me like you're being a parrett.
[08:57] <wastrel> i dunno pilgrim this is a weird one
[08:57] <pilgrim> wastrel, indeed.
[08:57] <slide> johanbr, i foudn this, http://pdo.debian.net/experimental/mail/postfix
[08:57] <intelikey> pilgrim do you want to fix it ?
[08:58] <wastrel> pilgrim:  so is sudo running the command and losing the output or is it not even running the command?
[08:58] <pilgrim> intelikey, yeah...
[08:58] <wastrel> pilgrim:  what about  sudo touch foo; ls -l foo
[08:58] <pilgrim> wastrel, good question. No idea.
[08:58] <pilgrim> wastrel, ls: foo: No such file or directory
[08:58] <pilgrim> \
[08:59] <sagarp> i just installed dapper and it's working great with xgl and compiz and stuff...but for some reason hardware accel is turned off..how can i enable it?
[08:59] <wastrel> pilgrim:  your sudo is b0rked
[08:59] <pilgrim> wastrel, why?!
[08:59] <wastrel> pilgrim:  have you edited /etc/sudoers ?
[08:59] <pilgrim> wastrel, should I worry about my safety, securiyt, homeland security?
[08:59] <pilgrim> wastrel, nah.
[08:59] <intelikey> you will probably need root access.  i.e.  rebooting to single user mode.   and add your self back to the admin group.    your groupmod command is that culpret pilgrim
[09:00] <wastrel> pilgrim:  i dunno what's wrong with it...
[09:00] <pilgrim> intelikey, why groupmod?!!!
[09:00] <pilgrim> oh!!!!!
[09:00] <pilgrim> !!!!!
[09:00] <ubotu> pilgrim: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:00] <pilgrim> wastrel, couldn't be. I used -G
[09:00] <johanbr> slide: Alright, that source package will hopefully work. In case you're not familiar with building debs from source, I put up a very short guide for that at http://nullinfinity.org/deb-build-src . It's for a completely different package but the changes you need to make should be more or less evident.
[09:00] <pilgrim> intelikey, ^^^ i used groupmod -G not -g
[09:01] <intelikey> pilgrim can you cat /etc/groups
[09:01] <intelikey> err no s
[09:01] <pilgrim> intelikey, I figured.
[09:01] <slide> johanbr, thakns :)
[09:02] <pilgrim> insidious, yeah that's it. I'm not longer in admin group
[09:02] <pilgrim> intelikey, ^^^
[09:02] <intelikey> imagen that...
[09:02] <pilgrim> intelikey, F*
[09:02] <johanbr> slide: No problem. Good luck with dovecot.
[09:02] <slide> thanks :)
[09:03] <pilgrim> intelikey, so what exactly happened?
[09:03] <pilgrim> do you figure?
[09:03] <Alakazam> whats the benifit of using sudo over the standard "su -"
[09:03] <timfrost> !sudo
[09:03] <pilgrim> Alakazam, can't use su - in ubuntu
[09:03] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:04] <Alakazam> ubotu, i know how to change the root passwd, i just wonder about the benifit of using sudo... whats the point.
[09:04] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Alakazam
[09:04] <insidious> pilgrim, stop saying my name!
[09:04] <insidious> pilgrim, :)
[09:04] <pilgrim> insidious, what?
[09:04] <pilgrim> insidious, lol. sorry.
[09:04] <wastrel> Alakazam:  you don't need to know the root password to use sudo, /etc/sudoers  allows fine-grained control over who can do what
[09:04] <Alakazam> aah
[09:04] <Alakazam> there we go, ty wastrel
[09:05] <timfrost> pilgrim, 'usermod -G ' sets the list of groups for the user explicitly to *only* those groups in the list.
[09:05] <Madpilot> ubotu tell Alakazam about yourself
[09:05] <pilgrim> timfrost, NOOO. shoot. I though it like adds...so what was I looking for then?
[09:06] <zebraFusion> is there such a thing as disk defragmentation for linux... From what I've read it is very unnecessary with the ext3 filesystem
[09:06] <newbuntie> If you're the only one using the box I'm guessing the only advantage is that noone can bruteforce the account named root, they have to guess both the username and the password
[09:06] <Alakazam> ty mad
[09:06] <redblade> timfrost, I really would appreciate if you could just paste bin the proper contents of sources.list
[09:06] <Alakazam> ty maddler
[09:06] <wastrel> pilgrim:  i always use vigr :]
[09:06] <Alakazam> or Madpilot
[09:06] <pilgrim> wastrel, what's vigr???
[09:07] <pilgrim> !vigr
[09:07] <ubotu> pilgrim: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:07] <|GoDawgs|_> let's see if this is any better
[09:07] <wastrel> pilgrim:  it's like vipw,  let's you edit the /etc/group file relatively safely
[09:07] <slide> johanbr, what about with special compile options?  :P
[09:08] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[09:08] <|GoDawgs|_> hey
[09:08] <pilgrim> wastrel, but I think it's even better not to do it manually, there is tools like groupmod and stuff..I just got to read more carefully next time.
[09:08] <Alakazam> heheh, yeah... was having a prob there. haha
[09:08] <redblade> hey
[09:08] <linuxboyfriend> which kernel is shipped with ubuntu 5.10?
[09:08] <redblade> timfrost?
[09:08] <pilgrim> wastrel, so which groups is a "admin" user supposed to belong to?
[09:09] <newbuntie> really the end effect is that most ppl running ubuntu always run as admin just like windows users
[09:09] <intelikey> pilgrim man groupmod and i think you will see why you borked your sudo
[09:09] <wastrel> here's my list:  wastrel adm dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev lpadmin scanner nvram
[09:09] <intelikey> admin
[09:09] <pilgrim> intelikey, I think you mean usermod.
[09:09] <herede> usermod -G wheel yourname
[09:10] <jace> how do I do remote desktop in ubuntu?
[09:10] <herede> jace, you mean to or from ubuntu?
[09:10] <intelikey> didn't you say you ran groupmod eariler pilgrim ?
[09:10] <_GoDawgs_> Hey guys... where does Samba show up in the menu once it's installed?
[09:10] <pilgrim> wastrel, yeah yeah. but I think the culprit was usermod. Because usermod -G install added me to install and removed me from all else.
[09:10] <jace> to ubuntu
[09:11] <Alakazam> distros are straying away from original linux theory Madpilot ...
[09:11] <pilgrim> intelikey, ^^^^
[09:11] <Alakazam> when we get questions like... "_GoDawgs_ Hey guys... where does Samba show up in the menu once it's installed?" i worry about bash's future
[09:11] <intelikey> yeah that can do it too.
[09:12] <intelikey> anyway you got it fixed yet ?
[09:12] <pilgrim> intelikey, with groupmod I was just trying to lower GID for the group which was too late because I wasn't an admin anymore.
[09:12] <_GoDawgs_> Alakazam: Well, sorry... I don't know bash... I'm a new user of Ubuntu.
[09:12] <timfrost> redblade,  Official sources.lists are: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper).  They don't include plf.  I have for plf "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free" and the same with deb-src
[09:12] <_GoDawgs_> Alakazam: In my experience, it should auto show up once a program is installed....
[09:13] <ejofee> anybody know a place where i can find a recompiled libfreetype6 (using patented methods of font rendering)?
[09:13] <intelikey> pilgrim hehhe yeah thank God for little errors  lol
[09:13] <Alakazam> _GoDawgs_, in what distro
[09:13] <_GoDawgs_> Dapper!
[09:13] <Alakazam> intelikey, have you tried http://rpm.pbone.net/
[09:13] <Alakazam> ?
[09:13] <wastrel> why are you using dapper if you're a newbie?  hardware support?
[09:13] <Alakazam> whats dapper
[09:13] <_GoDawgs_> Yes, hardware support.
[09:13] <_GoDawgs_> Ubuntu Dapper?
[09:13] <wastrel> dapper is the unstable development branch
[09:13] <_GoDawgs_> Flight 4
[09:13] <Alakazam> aah
[09:14] <Alakazam> dapper is to ubuntu as cooker is to mandriva
[09:14] <Alakazam> right?
[09:14] <newbuntie> alakazam: windows :) and he's right, it should showup in the menu, no reason to break usability just to be part of the elite :)
[09:14] <intelikey> Alakazam no
[09:14] <ejofee> Alakazam: no. dapper is to ubuntu what mandriva 2007 is to mandriva.
[09:14] <Alakazam> newbuntie, what happens win the windows break ;)
[09:14] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  samba isn't an application & it doesn't have a menu entry afaik
[09:14] <Alakazam> oh ejofee i see.. :D
[09:14] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  what are you trying to do with samba
[09:14] <pilgrim> intelikey, wastrel, timfrost , insidious, thanks to you all for your help. Now I had to single user mode it.
[09:14] <wastrel> mandrake was a better name
[09:15] <Alakazam> i agree
[09:15] <jace> so how do I remote desktop to ubuntu?
[09:15] <ejofee> Alakazam: which means you are approximately... right.
[09:15] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: Oh okay... maybe that's the reason.... I'm trying to connect my Ubuntu box with my Windows boxes for file sharing and printer sharing
[09:15] <jjjjjjj> what is the sudo apt-get for asterisk?  thanks.
[09:15] <intelikey> yeah i liked mandrake 10
[09:15] <johanbr> slide: Sorry for taking a few minutes. debuild runs a script called debian/rules so you probably need to look at that script if you want to fiddle with the compile options.
[09:15] <intelikey> errr still do for that matter
[09:15] <Alakazam> mandriva 2006 is okay, its just too...
[09:15] <Alakazam> jumbled
[09:16] <slide> johanbr, np :) hehe, ok thanks alot for the help
[09:16] <thegladiator> is it posible that I download a asf file ? which is an online streamer ?
[09:16] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  try places > network servers   maybe
[09:16] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  i don't use samba...
[09:16] <_GoDawgs_> newbuntie: btw, I'm a girl... *grin*
[09:16] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: okay, I'll give it a shot...
[09:16] <thegladiator> it is going on buffering and I can see it in parts only
[09:16] <gnomefreak> jjjjjjj: sudo apt-get install
[09:16] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  and for printers  system > administration > printing
[09:17] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: You're good! :)
[09:17] <thegladiator> i am using gxine streamer
[09:17] <jjjjjjj> sudo apt-get asterisk is what googleshows
[09:17] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: Thank you!!  It worked!
[09:17] <jjjjjjj> oops... sorry
[09:17] <wastrel> rawk
[09:17] <jjjjjjj> your right
[09:17] <gnomefreak> jjjjjjj: to install it its apt-get install
[09:17] <w32> !raid
[09:17] <ubotu> from memory, raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[09:19] <w32> !software raid
[09:19] <ubotu> w32: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:19] <newbuntie> GoDawgs: you're Monospace 9 on white background... but ok, "she's right" it is :)
[09:19] <jjjjjjj> and if i want to download it vs. the synaptic package?
[09:19] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: except for printing...
[09:19] <gnomefreak> jjjjjjj: find a deb if there is one
[09:19] <_GoDawgs_> newbuntie: I'm not sure what that means, so I'll just go with it... *grin*
[09:19] <sinaduel> I am a newbie, and I like to IM, is there a linux program for KDE that works like Trillian?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> sinaduel: gaim
[09:20] <jjjjjjj> under edubuntu i've been using gaim for msn
[09:20] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  it can't find your printer?
[09:20] <sinaduel> thankyou
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: well, the file finding was good... but the printer is a problem
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: yeah....
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> which sucks
[09:20] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  is your printer supported?
[09:20] <jjjjjjj> frickin wasted half a day playing with kopete then saw gaim was built in. <sigh>
[09:20] <wastrel> <3 gaim
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: how would i find out?
[09:20] <Alakazam> lol
[09:20] <wastrel> !printer
[09:20] <ubotu> somebody said printer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:20] <Alakazam> i like the beta
[09:20] <newbuntie> GoDawgs: it's the font in xchat...I'm just saying we're all just text here :)
[09:20] <Alakazam> lotsa changed
[09:20] <_GoDawgs_> i would assume so.... wastrel it's an HP 1200... not exactly new
[09:20] <Alakazam> changes*
[09:21] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  and you have the windows side sharing it?
[09:21] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: let me check it out
[09:21] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: yeah... totally
[09:21] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  i'm going to be of limited help as i don't run windows...
[09:21] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: I use it all the time on the windows side
[09:21] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: no worries... i just appreciate what you are doing... which is fantastic!
[09:21] <bigfoot1> Music-listening problem at mp3.com. When I click a link on mp3.com, it asks what i want to do with the file (ending in asx). How do i listen to it?
[09:22] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: do you have mp3-playing enabled? (it's not by default...)
[09:22] <bigfoot1> for example, go to http://www.mp3.com/madonna/artists/49320/songs.html and click on one of the green arrows.
[09:22] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: yes i do.
[09:22] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i can listen to my mp3s on my computer.
[09:22] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: but this seems to be some other URL type i don't know how to work it.
[09:23] <wastrel> that's feeding me a wma
[09:23] <bigfoot1> wastrel: yes, so what can we do?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: can you open it with one of your mp3 enabled devices like totem or mplayer or something like that
[09:23] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: totem can't make it work
[09:23] <wastrel> bigfoot1:  that's your problem
[09:23] <wastrel> totem plugin is b0rked
[09:23] <wastrel> install mozilla-mplayer  <3
[09:23] <thegladiator> is it possible to let the buffer run for a minute os so ?
[09:23] <wastrel> what's asx and what's wma ?
[09:24] <wastrel> i thought wma was windows media
[09:24] <bigfoot1> wastrel: it works on xine. But first it gave me an error message
[09:24] <gnomefreak> wma is windoww i would try getting the w32codecs to see if they will play that
[09:24] <bigfoot1> wastrel: maybe asx is the streaming version of wma. (??).
[09:25] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: i have w32codecs
[09:25] <wastrel> heh i dunno
[09:25] <bigfoot1> so you guys don't recommend totem? Coz according to wastrel, totem plugin is borked.
[09:25] <wastrel> it played for me in mplayer plugin
[09:25] <amphi> bigfoot1: I like mplayer
[09:25] <bigfoot1> wastrel: you mean within your browser?
[09:25] <wastrel> bigfoot1:  yeah
[09:25] <bigfoot1> amphi: oh. yes, you do.
[09:26] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: It worked!!! yay!!!!
[09:26] <wastrel> par-tay
[09:26] <bigfoot1> how can i set up mplayer to work in my opera browser.
[09:26] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: I was expecting it to just show up... just took a little while for it to do so. )
[09:26] <_GoDawgs_> :)
[09:26] <tga1> if I have a dir with internal hard links can I rsync it to an identical copy without any references to the source?
[09:26] <intelikey> vlc
[09:26] <wastrel> hmmm opera...
[09:26] <_GoDawgs_> :)
[09:27] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  to pay me back you can learn vim :]
[09:27] <jjjjjjj> ok my asterisk sudo apt-get install asterisk returned a couple errors.  can I uninstall what i just did via apt-get?
[09:27] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: totem works fine here - try totem-xine...
[09:27] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: No problem.................... what's VIM? :)
[09:27] <jjjjjjj> it's too late
[09:27] <benplaut> this is so annoying!!
[09:27] <jjjjjjj> in the day
[09:27] <zebraFusion> vi improved!
[09:28] <_GoDawgs_> ok, what's VI? :)
[09:28] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: _the_ editor - http://vim.org/
[09:28] <benplaut> firefox somehow enable something that when you scroll to the top of a page, it'll go back... anyone know why?
[09:28] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  vim is a text editor with a steep learning curve
[09:28] <zebraFusion> Programmers text editor
[09:28] <benplaut> !holy war
[09:28] <ubotu> benplaut: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:28] <friedCrumpet> Okay. So I screwed my ubuntu installation somehow, by deleting the user that had the ability to sudo.  Of course, I made a new user first that I _thought_ had admin ability, and must have as I was able to remove the original user.  Anyone able to help?
[09:28] <benplaut> bah
[09:28] <amphi> !pal benplaut
[09:28] <ubotu> amphi: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:28] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: ahhh.... ewe.... :)
[09:28] <amphi> ugh ;)
[09:29] <wastrel> heh ben is an emacs user
[09:29] <_GoDawgs_> wastrel: Do you have an alternate payback method.... accept paypal?  LOL
[09:29] <wastrel> benplaut:  or were you talking about the mplayer/totem discussion ;]
[09:29] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: ?
[09:29] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: never mind :)
[09:29] <eduardo> ola
[09:29] <soundray> jjjjjjj, apt-get remove packagename
[09:29] <_GoDawgs_> hello eduardo
[09:29] <benplaut> wastrel: i use jed :P
[09:29] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: vim is also nice for email composition
[09:30] <eduardo> hello
[09:30] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: it is?  oh..... cool!  That's what I've got Evolution though :)
[09:30] <_GoDawgs_> does the trick just grand
[09:30] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: bah, mutt
[09:30] <bigfoot1> somebody please help me get rid of lilypond-data. I've tried "sudo apt-get remove lilypond-data". and it doesn't work
[09:30] <_GoDawgs_> nah.... it's a great program
[09:30] <soundray> friedCrumpet, you have to boot in recovery mode and add the new user to the admin group.
[09:30] <_GoDawgs_> bigfoot1: have you tried unloading it through Synaptic?
[09:30] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: certainly a great big program
[09:31] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: what is?
[09:31] <friedCrumpet> soundray: Yeah, I thought I did that
[09:31] <friedCrumpet> edited the group file
[09:31] <bigfoot1> _GoDawgs_: i tried removing it via synaptic, too, yes
[09:31] <intelikey> benplaut you like jed ????   ever try mc -e    (the built in editing feature of mc)
[09:31] <_GoDawgs_> bigfoot1: and no love 'eh?
[09:31] <soundray> friedCrumpet, adduser newuser admin
[09:32] <kameron> man, i'm so pumped for dapper's official release.
[09:32] <bigfoot1> _GoDawgs_: no love. and because of this problem, i can't install any other thing
[09:32] <friedCrumpet> soundray: will try that.  I guess adding the users uid to the admin group isn't sufficient?
[09:32] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: evolution
[09:32] <_GoDawgs_> bigfoot1: oh lordy.... wow.....
[09:32] <soundray> friedCrumpet, also check that your /etc/sudoers contains the line %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[09:32] <bigfoot1> file-removal problem. can someone help me.
[09:32] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: can you help bigfoot1?
[09:32] <friedCrumpet> yep, that is there
[09:32] <bigfoot1> amphi: can you help bigfoot1 again?
[09:32] <_GoDawgs_> amphi: it's a great program dude... I need it for my web design business.... works way better than outlook ever did
[09:33] <amphi> bigfoot1: dunno, what ails thee, alone and palely loitering? ;)
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> bigfoot1: amphi is really good... despite his opinion on Evolution :)
[09:33] <kameron> _GoDawgs_, HEY
[09:33] <zebraFusion> I seriously don't understand why people use mail clients
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: dude... what up? :)
[09:33] <kameron> _GoDawgs_, go on skype doofus
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> i can't
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> i'm on dapper and don't have it on here yet
[09:33] <redblade> Do you have to pay to use skype?
[09:33] <bigfoot1> amphi: i can't remove something called "lilypond-data". i've tried removing via synaptic and cli.
[09:33] <bigfoot1> no good
[09:33] <redblade> from one skype to another?
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> redblade: not if your skype - skype
[09:33] <kameron> redblade, not for skype to skype calls
[09:33] <zebraFusion> Not skype in...
[09:33] <zebraFusion> Skype out, though... Yes
[09:33] <darkness_> Hi all, I decided to install ubutny 5.10 today after using windows for awhile. I've installed and used Ubuntu a few times before, and this time was no different except for when I tried to install java. It came up with a error message when I tried to install it. So, I'm wondering is I need to install anything before I try to install java?
[09:33] <_GoDawgs_> but for Skypeout though yes...
[09:34] <redblade> But how do you get a skype number then?
[09:34] <_GoDawgs_> sign up for it
[09:34] <redblade> Oh.
[09:34] <kameron> !tell darkness_ about java
[09:34] <johanbr> bigfoot1: What's the exact error message?
[09:34] <zebraFusion> !restrictedformats
[09:34] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:34] <peej> bigfoot1 : wossit say when you do apt-get remove lilypond-data?
[09:34] <redblade> So the number is free?
[09:34] <jjjjjjj> thank you soundray
[09:34] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: i can switch over to winblows if ya' want
[09:34] <peej> bigfoot1 : and have you done an apt-get update first?
[09:34] <amphi> bigfoot1: what happens when you apt-get remove it?
[09:35] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: we've made HUGE strides tonight thanks to the help of wastrel... I can print and see my windows files :)
[09:35] <amphi> bigfoot1: can you paste bin the errors?
[09:35] <darkness_> Kameron: I've done everything it says to under the java part.
[09:35] <johanbr> _GoDawgs_: I downloaded the skype binary and it works reasonably well on dapper.
[09:35] <soundray> bigfoot1, lilypond-data needs kpsewhich to uninstall successfully
[09:35] <_GoDawgs_> johanbr: yeah, Seveas as built it too and has it through his repo
[09:35] <friedCrumpet> soundray: Ahh, I think I have it.  I added the UID to the group line, when it should have been the username... or so it appears
[09:35] <bigfoot1> johanbr: peej amphi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8943
[09:35] <wastrel> bigfoot1:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103013&page=2&highlight=lilypond
[09:36] <wastrel> bigfoot1:  the last post of that thread
[09:36] <bigfoot1> soundray: oh, so i have to install kpse first?
[09:36] <bigfoot1> wastrel: ok. i'll take a look
[09:36] <LiteHedded> how do I add a dir to my path?
[09:36] <soundray> bigfoot1, kpsewhich is supplied by tetex-bin. Make sure you have that package and kpsewhich in the path for the installer.
[09:36] <redblade> The Skype website says you have to pay to get a skype number!
[09:36] <bigfoot1> soundray: how do i do that?
[09:37] <ipfw> you do, for incoming calls & skype-out (call a normal phone)
[09:37] <soundray> redblade, that's only so you can be called from a landline.
[09:37] <redblade> But I'm not sure I understand
[09:37] <amphi> bigfoot1: it tells you what to do: apt-get install --reinstall lilypond-data
[09:37] <cafuego> But skype is such crap audio quality, don't bother.
[09:37] <amphi> bigfoot1: and then remove it
[09:37] <redblade> how do I call another skype?
[09:37] <ipfw> cafuego, what do you use ?
[09:37] <redblade> wouldn't I need a number to do that?
[09:37] <ipfw> redblade, www.skype.org documentation section explains
[09:38] <soundray> bigfoot1, sudo apt-get --reinstall install tetex-bin ; sudo kpsewhich (should say "Missing argument").
[09:38] <wisie> im trying to create a database in mysql, is there anything I have to do before I can create the DB? Like login or anything? mysql is startin but is there anything else needeD?
[09:38] <_GoDawgs_> so 3 down.... 3 more issues to go before I can fully dump winblows... yea!!!
[09:38] <_GoDawgs_> cafuego: you must have had a bad experience because everytime I've used Skype it's rocked!
[09:38] <redblade> ipfw, there is no skype.org
[09:38] <soundray> redblade, no, you just need the other person's skype name. But this isn't the place for skype support.
[09:39] <bigfoot1> amphi: i tried doing the --reinstall thing. here's what i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8944
[09:39] <redblade> okay sorry
[09:39] <_GoDawgs_> redblade: there's another project that's opensource, it's called Gizmo....
[09:39] <ipfw> redblade, well, there was the last time I used skype :)
[09:39] <newbuntie> redblade: skype is just like aim, yahoo messanger, msn etc, it's  a network of users of software allowing communication, it started out as voice over ip but it does chat and webcams now
[09:39] <sinaduel> is there a windows emulator, if so, where can I find it, sorry for the stupid questions, I am a newbie
[09:39] <ipfw> redblade, try the .com it had both
[09:39] <ablomen> !wine
[09:39] <redblade> I have the .com open
[09:39] <_GoDawgs_> redblade: here's the URL:  www.gizmoproject.com
[09:39] <sinaduel> whankyou
[09:40] <soundray> cafuego, skype has reduced voice quality if you have to run it via port 80. It does this automatically when it can't open an inbound port for its own use.
[09:40] <bigfoot1> soundray: you want me to do "sudo kpsewhich" after doing "sudo apt-get --reinstall install tetex-bin"?
[09:40] <peej> bigfoot1: erm... so install kpsewhich first, then remove lilypond data?
[09:41] <soundray> bigfoot1, yes. That'll tell you if kpsewhich is in the path when you sudo.
[09:41] <bigfoot1> so whom do i follow: peej or soundray?
[09:41] <amphi> bigfoot1: damn - do what soundray said above
[09:41] <soundray> bigfoot1, me, me! :) No harm in trying both, I reckon.
[09:42] <Quinch> I have a question; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8945 . What's that "extension missing" thing and how to I fix it?
[09:42] <kameron> !info klik
[09:42] <amphi> soundray: well, reinstall lilypondstuff just bleated for kpsewhich...
[09:42] <peej> bigfoot1: souundray is diagnosing to zero in. I'm guessing without the diagnosing.
[09:43] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: the link is http://klik.atekon.de/
[09:43] <kameron> holla _GoDawgs_
[09:43] <_GoDawgs_> np
[09:43] <wastrel> my glasses are dirty
[09:44] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: can I kick my old nick outta here so I can reassume it?
[09:44] <_GoDawgs_> this sucks
[09:44] <zebraFusion> Why hasn't nmap 4.0 been released to dapper repos?
[09:44] <johanbr> Speaking of Skype, I think people should support open standards like SIP instead. Ekiga works fine for me.
[09:44] <kameron> _GoDawgs_, what do you mean kick it out? did you forget your password/
[09:44] <_GoDawgs_> johanbr: Gizmo is SIP
[09:45] <_GoDawgs_> kameron: no no no.... it's my ghost nick that's never dropped off the channel
[09:45] <amphi> _GoDawgs_: /msg nickserv help ghost
[09:45] <intelikey> Quinch XFree86-DRI   not xorg ?
[09:45] <wastrel> _GoDawgs_:  /msg nickserv ghost GoDawgs <password>
[09:45] <_GoDawgs_> thanks amp
[09:45] <_GoDawgs_> oops thanks amphi
[09:45] <Quinch> Intelikey: What the when now?
[09:45] <kameron> _GoDawgs_, ohhh, it's in the chan, yeah, what they said
[09:45] <_GoDawgs_> yeah ok
[09:45] <zebraFusion> Why hasn't nmap 4.0 been released to dapper repos?
[09:45] <Quinch> Intelikey: Mind, I'm a complete newbie.
[09:46] <GoDawgs> cool beans
[09:46] <GoDawgs> Thanks guys :)
[09:46] <johanbr>  zebraFusion: Probably because no one had the time to package it before the upstream version freeze.
[09:46] <intelikey> the error says it's looking for Xfree86-DRI   ubuntu uses xorg by default  have you edited your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something ?
[09:46] <intelikey> Quinch ^
[09:46] <zebraFusion> what do you mean, upstream version freeze?
[09:46] <bigfoot1> guys, i did "sudo apt-get --reinstall install tetex-bin" as soundray advised, i still get some error (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8946). is this fine?
[09:46] <Quinch> Intelikey: Nope. Altough I did run Xserver-reconfig or whatever the syntax is....
[09:47] <Quinch> Intelikey: But that was in an attempt to resolve the pre-existing missing-thingy-problem.
[09:47] <Quinch> Intelikey: What's Xfree and xorg, by the way?
[09:48] <intelikey> yeah that edits it Quinch.  maybe disable dri in the config or install it one....
[09:48] <johanbr> zebraFusion: That means that since a few weeks ago, the packages in dapper will not have their sources refreshed from the original author's version, without a good reason for making an exception.
[09:48] <Quinch> Intelikey: Install it where? I've got an ATI9600SE, with the {I think} appropriate driver packages downloaded from Synaptic.
[09:48] <peej> Quinch: try apt-cache search glx and try installing relevant stuff. lspci may tell you what your card is.
[09:49] <zebraFusion> johanbr, I thought the deb packages on the repos were updated with the newest code every day?
[09:49] <amphi> zebraFusion: you did?
[09:49] <intelikey> Quinch  less /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and see if it has a line specifying XFree* in it    and maybe change it to just plain dri
[09:50] <ablomen> intelikey: you have to download the drivers from the ati site, but they dont run verry good, so you need a bit of luck 2
[09:50] <bigfoot1> guys, how do i play a file that starts with mms:// and ends with .wma?
[09:50] <johanbr> zebraFusion: That's the ubuntu developers making build changes and incorporating patches for bugs/security problems. No new program versions will be accepted from the outside.
[09:50] <peej> Quinch: ok, some of the stuff in xorg-driver-fglrx-dev may help. Meant for developers, but sometimes they don't bundle required stuff in user package.
[09:50] <zebraFusion> johanbr, oh.
[09:50] <intelikey> ah so the xorg driver is not going to work anyway....
[09:50] <amphi> bigfoot1: I'd try mplayer ;)
[09:50] <zebraFusion> johanbr, so even Dapper's packages are frozen right now... until the next build of Ubuntu?
[09:50] <intelikey> Quinch best bet is comment out the line altogather
[09:51] <ablomen> intelikey: well it cfan work but not by synaptics
[09:51] <bigfoot1> amphi: i still don't see mplayer on my "sound and video" menu.
[09:51] <ablomen> intelikey: there is a whole manual and stuff on the ati site try that
[09:51] <johanbr> zebraFusion: Yes, although exceptions are made in a few cases.
[09:51] <zebraFusion> johanbr, do many advanced users compile the code themselves for newer releases?
[09:51] <intelikey> ablomen care to dirrect that to quinch please
[09:52] <ablomen> Quinch: there is a whole manual and stuff on the ati site try that
[09:52] <intelikey> i have no x here  :)
[09:52] <amphi> bigfoot1: type mplayer mms://blah
[09:52] <amphi> bigfoot1: in a term
[09:52] <Quinch> Intelikey, there's no mention of "xfree" in xorg.conf.
[09:52] <bigfoot1> amphi: ok. but is there a gui version of mplayer? or is mplayer really for terminal/cli users?
[09:52] <ablomen> intelikey: sorry still early here ;)
[09:53] <Quinch> Ablomen, I've heard... less than favorable things regarding ATI's official drivers for Linux.
[09:53] <johanbr> zebraFusion: Depends. I rarely bother, unless it's something I really want. On the other hand, there was a guy in here a while ago who really needed a newer version of postfix (mail server software) than was available in dapper.
[09:53] <ablomen> Quinch: but its the best change youv got ;)
[09:53] <tenmon> ----   quick question: ubuntu64 + enlightenment 17 + .deb packages already compiled EXISTS? ------
[09:53] <Quinch> Ablomen: Luvverly.
[09:54] <intelikey> quinch ok we've been talking about you.    best bet is probably not to use dri   but if you must check the ati site  for the howto     and ablomen can probably help you more than me with that anyway.
[09:54] <amphi> bigfoot1: it's a command line X program (well, console also)
[09:54] <bigfoot1> amphi: the mplayer mms://blah works in terminal! thanks
[09:54] <soundray> bigfoot1, had to pop out - did you fix lilypond-data?
[09:54] <bigfoot1> soundray: yes.
[09:54] <Quinch> Intelikey, what are my options?  What are your thoughts, everyone?
[09:56] <bigfoot1> soundray: you a musician? or do you just carry a cool handle?
[09:56] <zebraFusion> I'm also curious
[09:56] <zebraFusion> Is there one player that can play all video codecs?
[09:56] <wastrel> they all work well on free formats i bet
[09:56] <soundray> bigfoot1, I used to work with medical ultrasound :)
[09:56] <Madpilot> totem-zine seems to handle everything I throw at it
[09:56] <Madpilot> -xine, actually
[09:56] <bigfoot1> cool, soundray.
[09:56] <wastrel> the problem is having to reverse engineer/kludge proprietary formats
[09:56] <amphi> bigfoot1: if mplayer doesn't play it, I don't watch it ;)
[09:56] <gnomefreak> zebraFusion: all i dont know but the w32codecs should enable most playback
[09:56] <Madpilot> !w32codcs
[09:56] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Madpilot
[09:56] <bigfoot1> soundray: that kinda technology is getting better, isn't it.
[09:56] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[09:56] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:57] <zebraFusion> Madpilot, when you run an .avi for instance, does it open in the totem movie player or the xine?
[09:57] <intelikey> Quinch as i understand it, not that i have any ati cards, ati is not very unix friendly atm.   and you will need to visit the ati site for most of the help you get on that.     sorry there just arent any options really.
[09:57] <amphi> bigfoot1: worse, look at google's drm now
[09:57] <zebraFusion> Because I can't stand the UI for xine, I think it looks like it's out of the 90s.
[09:57] <Quinch> Intelikey: All right, thanks. I'll see if I can dig up anything from there.
[09:57] <johanbr> bigfoot1: Yep, totem-xine should be able to play almost anything. For the next release after dapper, totem-gstreamer should also be in good shape.
[09:57] <Madpilot> zebraFusion: installing totem-xine replaces the totem-gstreamer that Ubuntu comes with
[09:57] <Madpilot> zebraFusion: there's another player just called "xine", but totem-xine is a different animal
[09:58] <wastrel> yeah totem-xine is pretty good.  it's just the totem plugin that is bad :]
[09:58] <jhunita> where can i get the latest drivers for nework modem (imac 17inch, g4)
[09:58] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i have totem-xine installed. but i can't seem to run it when i do "totem-xine" in cli. how do i run it?
[09:58] <johanbr> Madpilot: Yep, you have to choose one of them. I'd definitely recommend totem-xine over totem-gstreamer.
[09:58] <johanbr> bigfoot1: It's just "totem".
[09:58] <soundray> bigfoot1, find me in #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss ultrasound
[09:58] <bigfoot1> amphi: the tech i was refferring to was ultrasound tech.
[09:59] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: just start Totem from the menu, it'll be totem-xine
[09:59] <wastrel> medical ultrasound e
[09:59] <wastrel> eh
[09:59] <bigfoot1> johanbr: Madpilot, everyoneHere: so is totem-xine better than totem-gstreamer?
[09:59] <wastrel> my friend just had one she's 15 wks pregnant
[10:00] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i can't get totem to play a file that starts with mms:// and ends with .wma. can you?
[10:00] <sagarp> i have a computer and i've installed dapper on it and the xgl effects are quite nice...but direct rendering is disabled...so does that mean i can run xgl on a computer without an nvidia card?
[10:00] <amphi> bigfoot1: oh, sorry, I thought you were still on about codecs and players
[10:00] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: but i can play that file in mplayer
[10:00] <bigfoot1> amphi: no probl
[10:00] <bigfoot1> em
[10:00] <soundray> wastrel *hrm* #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:00] <wastrel> heh
[10:00] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: that's some sort of streaming video, isn't it? I've never bothered with streaming video, it never worked for me even in XP... :P
[10:00] <johanbr> bigfoot1: Yes. My only issue with totem-xine is that the sound on some .mov files stutters. Apart from that, it's much better than -gstreamer.
[10:00] <intelikey> bigfoot1 better is a relative term,  are apples better than orenges ?
[10:00] <wastrel> i'm going to sleep.  it's past my bedtime
[10:01] <GoDawgs> bye everyone....
[10:01] <bigfoot1> GoDawgs: bye
[10:01] <zebraFusion> I don't know about orenges, but I'd forsure say they're better than oranges. ;)
[10:01] <GoDawgs> bigfoot1: oh good night :)
[10:01] <GoDawgs> take care