[00:34] <iheartubuntu> seidos... im doing a contest on my blog if youre interested (for seeds)
[00:36] <seidos> iheartubuntu, do the seeds work in san francisco's climate?
[00:36] <iheartubuntu> u can pick your own
[00:36] <seidos> i heart some stuff doesn't work so great here
[00:36] <seidos> i have your blog on my rss feeds, did you already post it?
[00:42] <iheartubuntu> and the winner is seidos! Congrats.
[00:47] <seidos> \o/
[00:47] <seidos> seeeeds
[04:35] <moebius> Well, hello anybody
[05:25] <jdeslip> hello moebius
[05:25] <jdeslip> Friday night is not so busy :)
[05:27] <dragon> everyone's at Jono's Band performance?
[05:28] <jdeslip> Apparently. I no MarkDude is at least from his facebook messages.
[05:29] <dragon> yes, I was supposed to, but I had a change of plans at the last moment
[05:29] <dragon> and SF is kind of far.
[05:46] <dragon> s/supposed/seriously planning/
[07:27] <pleia2> company holiday party for me, 'tis the season :)
[15:29] <MarkDude> Jono's show was epic!
[15:29]  * MarkDude has video he will post


[07:17]  * abogani waves all
[07:19]  * apw yawns
[07:19] <RAOF> Time for the bees!
[07:20]  * apw giggle insanly
[07:20] <smb> apw, Has there been back in 20mins mentioned?
[07:21] <apw> sadly not
[07:22]  * smb wonders what made apw loose control. :)
[07:22] <apw> its just going to me one of those days
[07:23] <abogani> ogasawara: ping
[07:23] <RAOF> Bah.  Bluetooth, why do you suck so?
[07:25] <ppisati> CFLAGS+=-DENABLE_GPIO_RADIO_CTL
[07:26] <ppisati> ops
[07:26] <ppisati> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/642447/
[07:45] <apw> ppisati, ok seems i've pushed an update to lucid master-next which should sort you out
[07:45] <apw> no idea why i didn't think it applied to lucid
[09:10] <ppisati> apw: cool, btw disabling that driver fixed the compilation
[09:16] <ppisati> apw: when available, can you open CVE-2010-4805? thanks
[09:16] <ubot2> ppisati: The socket implementation in net/core/sock.c in the Linux kernel before 2.6.35 does not properly manage a backlog of received packets, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service by sending a large amount of network traffic, related to the sk_add_backlog function and the sk_rmem_alloc socket field.  NOTE: this vulnerability exists because of an incomplete fix for CVE-2010-4251. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.c
[10:52]  * ppisati -> out for food
[12:30]  * apw lunche
[12:49] <herton> smb: natty is failing on QA for -virtual flavour, because CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA is disabled for it (bug 802464)
[12:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 802464 in linux "linux: 2.6.38-10.46 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802464
[12:50] <herton> smb: we don't remember now if it was you which was going submit a patch for it, as it was reported before, but I can do it in any case
[12:50] <smb> herton, wtf. Thanks, though I would have thought that Natty should not be able to get built without...
[12:51] <smb> The last one it was not would have been hardy
[12:51] <herton> ah... ok, natty seems to require the same fix then
[12:51] <smb> I thought we had that in the big mean config checker, but I need to have a look at that
[12:52] <tgardner> smb, its in the enforcer, but looks like virtual is excluded
[12:53]  * smb wonders whether there was a case where that broke ec2
[12:53] <tgardner> herton, why is that failing now ?
[12:53] <smb> tgardner, Guess because now we are really really testing
[12:53]  * smb will have a look and see whether it can be turned on and still boots on ec2
[12:54] <herton> it seems we got this reported in June, but was forgotten (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-kernel-sru/2011-June/000158.html)
[12:54] <tgardner> smb, in the meantime I suggest we get an exception so it doesn't hold up everything else. its not like its a regression.
[12:55] <tgardner> herton, ^^
[12:55] <smb> +1
[12:55] <herton> tgardner: yep, I agree
[13:01] <smb> herton, tgardner I think the problem should now be fixed through stable but we deliberately have been disabling that for i386 (see 0b111980fe515c5ab24bf21aca5aebd24c70f605)
[13:02] <smb> But I'll better get it tested to be sure
[13:03] <tgardner> smb, herton: so an exception should be acceptable since we made the change with malice aforethought.
[13:03] <apw> ppisati: did someone do this for you: CVE-2010-4805
[13:03] <ubot2> apw: The socket implementation in net/core/sock.c in the Linux kernel before 2.6.35 does not properly manage a backlog of received packets, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service by sending a large amount of network traffic, related to the sk_add_backlog function and the sk_rmem_alloc socket field.  NOTE: this vulnerability exists because of an incomplete fix for CVE-2010-4251. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?n
[13:04]  * smb has not
[13:04] <herton> yes, +1 on that, it isn't a regression from the released natty kernel
[13:04]  * ogasawara drowns in email
[13:05] <tgardner> ogasawara should never take vacation again
[13:05] <ogasawara> I miss anything exciting?
[13:05]  * apw votes for ogasawara to not have any too
[13:05] <smb> ...ctrl-a del
[13:06] <apw> ogasawara: na things went ok for the milestone
[13:08] <ogasawara> apw: I thought you'd pushed over the top of linux-meta to drop versatile?
[13:09] <apw> ogasawara: i did i thought  /me checks
[13:09]  * tgardner defers UDS registration until August in case the dates change again.
[13:09] <apw> ogasawara: i think its on master-next
[13:10] <apw> i think we need to shift that back
[13:11] <apw> ogasawara: let me look maybe i've bust it
[13:12] <tgardner> apw, you should drop an example of MSS clamping in that IPv6 wiki page.
[13:12] <apw> tgardner: will do ...
[13:13] <ogasawara> apw: yep, looks like it's on master-next.  I'll get master updated.
[13:13] <apw> ogasawara: yeah i think its time to lose master-next
[13:13] <apw> (from meta)
[13:14] <ogasawara> apw: yah, I'll drop that branch too
[13:16] <ogasawara> apw: I assume you have the commit for 3.0.0-5.6 for linux-meta in your tree then?  care to just push that to master?
[13:17] <apw> ppisati: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/809318
[13:17] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 809318 in linux-ti-omap4 "CVE-2010-4805" [Undecided,New]
[13:17] <ogasawara> apw: nm, looks like it's tgardner who's got it
[13:17] <apw> ogasawara: ok ... get him to shove
[13:18] <tgardner> ogasawara, what am I shoving? apw did the last meta upload.
[13:19] <ogasawara> tgardner: am trying to find the commit which closed out linux-meta for 3.0.0-5.6
[13:20] <ppisati> apw: 10x
[13:20] <tgardner> ogasawara, well, I don't think anyone has done it yet. 5.6 isn't finished building.
[13:20] <apw> ppisati: i am going to assume thats positive
[13:22] <ogasawara> tgardner: ack, you're right
[13:22] <tgardner> ogasawara, I just got it uploaded about 10P your time.
[13:23] <ogasawara> I'll keep an eye on the builds and then get linux-meta uploaded/updated
[13:24] <tgardner> ogasawara, I've nothing unpushed in my natty-meta repo, so feel free to hack and slash
[14:26] <tgardner> bjf, given that you are the resident python expert, how about reviewing sforshee's patch lest he become discouraged? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2011-July/016142.html
[14:27] <bjf> tgardner, roger, roger
[14:27] <sforshee> tgardner, bjf: at this point it doesn't seem to matter much since we've switched back to 3 numbers in the version
[14:30] <apw> i recon we should fix them anyhow
[14:31] <sforshee> it would be simpler if we could assume a '-' between the upstream version and the ABI, but right now it looks for '.' or '-'. I assume that's for legacy reasons?
[14:32] <apw> sforshee, per
[14:32] <abogani> ogasawara: ping
[14:32] <apw> sforshee, perhaps for meta as well
[14:32] <apw> which uses the . . . . form
[14:32] <sforshee> I see
[14:32] <ogasawara> ogasawara: pong
[14:32] <ogasawara> heh
[14:32] <ogasawara> abogani: pong
[14:32]  * apw giggles at ogasawara
[14:33] <smb> one of those days...
[14:33] <abogani> ogasawara: Could you renew me in bugcontrol, please?
[14:33] <ogasawara> abogani: sure, just a sec
[14:34] <abogani> ogasawara: Thank you
[14:34] <ogasawara> abogani: done, renewed for another year
[14:35] <abogani> ogasawara: Thanks again
[14:44] <bjf> sforshee, yes the '.' is to support meta
[14:45] <bjf> ##
[14:45] <bjf> ## Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[14:45] <bjf> ##      agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[14:45] <bjf> ##
[14:45] <apw> bjf, again, so soon ?
[14:46] <bjf> apw, we could go to once a month, no-one would notice
[14:51] <apw> :)
[15:03] <ogasawara> apw: aside from the 3.0.0-5.6 upload, anything else happen I should mention in the meeting?
[15:04] <apw> ogasawara, no i don't think so, we were all quiet.  of course you should mention 3.0.0 change
[15:04] <ogasawara> apw: right, will add that
[15:10] <apw> sconklin, i see a lot of our master-nexts have not
[15:10] <apw> been rebased, its making the pre-proposed kernels come out with funny old version numbers
[15:11] <tgardner> apw, we can fix that
[15:11] <tgardner> the rebase, I mean
[15:11] <apw> tgardner, i wanted to check he hasn't done them already
[15:12] <apw> tgardner, i guess as they are rebasable i can jstu do them and not care
[15:13] <apw> sconklin, scream now if you don't want them rebased
[15:13] <tgardner> apw, he could be screaming, but his pulse-audio has died.
[15:14]  * smb would sort of expect some "hold now" and "go" to know when one should be careful on touching -nexts
[15:14] <apw> smb, well you can tell if you push over someone so ... its entirly safe, just hard-ish to un-fook when you do overlap
[15:14] <smb> apw, Just don't like to find out by the time I would push, I guess
[15:18] <sconklin> apw: I have no issues with fixing up the -next branches, I just usually don't use a rebase to do it.
[15:18] <sconklin> For reasons we discussed at the rally
[15:19] <smb> we did?
[15:19] <smb> Ah well
[15:19] <apw> sconklin, i am using the term rebase in its literal form, to move the base of the branch to the tip of master, not implying what you use to do it
[15:19] <smb> Its not really the rebase but the need to have a sensible (higher) version number
[15:19] <sconklin> There was a long discussion of why I prefer to cherry pick all the new commits from -next to the last tag, and force push that over master-next
[15:20] <sconklin> it amounts to the same thing.
[15:20]  * smb remembers now
[15:20] <apw> sconklin, right i don't care how one choses to do it, what i a complaining about is it not being dne
[15:20] <sconklin> Want me to do it, or does apw have it under control?
[15:20] <apw> sconklin, and if you haven't the time to do it i can do it, just say
[15:20] <sconklin> agreed. It's "yet another thing that doesn't have a checkbox that's enforced and gets forgotten"
[15:21] <apw> sconklin, i'll just go ahead and move them up then
[15:21] <sconklin> I can easily get it done today, probably in the next couple of hours including the meeting
[15:21] <sconklin> whatever
[15:21] <apw> sconklin, ok i'll let you
[15:21] <sconklin> ack
[15:22] <apw> (and i am complaining cause the pre-proposed kernels are getting dumb versions not cause i inherantly care)
[15:22] <sconklin> no, I understand
[15:23] <apw> sconklin, are we close to releasng any of these -proposed kernels?
[15:24] <sconklin> afaik, it's all in qa and cert now. So the answer is a provisional yes
[15:25] <sconklin> I'm compiling that information now for the meeting
[15:26] <apw> sconklin, cool, i am getting bored waiting for the lts-backport for natty to arrive
[15:27] <sconklin> did you prep and build that? I'm not sure we did
[15:27] <sconklin> It ftbfs a while back and I don't think I got back to it
[15:27] <apw> i suspect i did originally
[15:28] <sconklin> I'll have a look
[15:28] <apw> it ftbs's on everything other than x86 and x86_64, but that is an archive error
[15:28] <apw> as we only target those two architectures, it is not even meant to start on the others
[15:28] <apw> i have been assured its not our fault
[15:28] <apw> that the control file is right and does not specify those other arches, but it goes there anyhow
[15:29] <sconklin> then it may just be sitting and waiting to be copied out of the ppa. I'll check
[15:30] <herton> yes, the script probably didn't get the build status as FULLY_BUILT because of the other arches which failed
[15:30] <herton> thus it didn't set the prepare-package to fix released for the lts-backport tracking bugs
[15:31] <herton> (script = shank bot)
[15:37]  * apw will once more try and get to the bottom of whether we can fix this
[15:40] <micahg> are you aware that the new 3.0.0-x kernel is showing up under the 3.0-x kernel in grub1?
[15:42] <apw> micahg, under? as in appearing 'lower' in version ?
[15:42] <micahg> apw: yes, options 3 and 4 :)
[15:42] <apw> micahg, why the heck is grub1 still on anything ?
[15:42] <micahg> I've been upgrading since hardy on that machine I think :)
[15:43] <micahg> I can file a bug, I just wanted to make you aware
[15:43] <apw> cjwatson, do we care a
[15:43] <tgardner> micahg, delete the 3.0-x kernel ?
[15:43] <apw> cjwatson, do we care any more about grub1 ?
[15:43] <micahg> tgardner: I can't be the only one with the issue ;)
[15:44] <tgardner> micahg, perhaps, but I'm not sure its something we'll fix 'cause 3.0-x was temporary
[15:44] <smb> apw, Just fwiw, you may encounter similar code in pv-grub on ec2
[15:44] <apw> ok confirmed that grub2 is at least ordering them right
[15:44] <apw> smb, nnng, well as we will release with a 3.0.0 i don't think we should hit it right ?
[15:45] <tgardner> apw, right. its a developer issue
[15:45] <smb> apw, no, you are right.
[15:45] <micahg> it's ascii ordering instead of version ordering
[15:45] <apw> micahg, but do file a bug
[15:45] <micahg> k
[15:45] <apw> at least that way people will stumble on it, and we can document removing the old ones as a work-around
[15:50] <micahg> apw: bug 809401
[15:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 809401 in grub "grub is ascii ordering instead of version ordering kernels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809401
[16:00] <bjf> ##
[16:00] <bjf> ## Kernel team meeting in one hour
[16:00] <bjf> ##
[16:04] <cjwatson> apw: we've never auto-upgraded people, so yes we do slightly care
[16:04] <cjwatson> also I thought the sorting in GRUB Legacy was the same as that in GRUB 2 ...
[16:06] <cjwatson> hm, perhaps not
[16:06] <cjwatson> anyway, it's my responsibility to fix, not yours
[16:06] <cjwatson> and it's not just ascii-ordering, it's more complicated than that
[16:07] <cjwatson> I'll have a look
[16:07] <tgardner> cjwatson, its really only a developer issue, i.e., only folks that had 3.0-x installed are affected. the normal upgrade from Natty to Oneiric should be fine.
[16:07] <cjwatson> tgardner: it's a bug, and should be fixed
[16:07] <cjwatson> sure, not very high priority :)
[16:16] <lamont> tgardner/herton: 3.0.0-4.5 seemed to fix that.  what are the chances of getting a r8169 driver backport to natty?
[16:17] <tgardner> lamont, hmm, I can check into it. perhaps an LBM backport ?
[16:18] <tgardner> on the other hand, the in-kernel driver is so broken that maybe I should just SRU a replacement
[16:19] <lamont> tgardner: I'd prefer to run "a natty kernel"  I have absolutely no care as to how we define that
[16:31] <tgardner> lamont, I've forgotten. Is there an existing bug no this r8169 issue?
[16:32] <lamont> 809000 is the best candidate
[16:32] <tgardner> lamont, ack
[16:33] <lamont> I haven't proven it - turns out that my spare network card has more pins on its edge connector than the mobo has pins in the slot
[16:33] <lamont> :(
[16:33] <lamont> the plan for today is to go drop $20 on a network card on my way ome
[16:33] <lamont> home. even
[16:34] <tgardner> ogasawara, given our policy of not modifying user space for backports, how do I note in the KernelOneiricUbuntuDeltaReview that we'll continue to carry a patch, likely in perpetuity ?
[16:34] <tgardner> in particular 'UBUNTU: Sony laptop: Some Sony Vaia laptops do not enable wwan power by default.'
[16:37] <ogasawara> tgardner: add a note to the wiki, and on the next rebase I can munge the commit message to note "SAUCE: (no-up)" so we know we'll carry it going forward
[16:38] <herton> lamont: hmm ok, would be good indeed to check with another network card still
[16:38] <tgardner> ogasawara, ack
[16:38] <sconklin> apw: The natty backports kernel needs to be respun, since we dropped some regressions out of Natty since it was made
[16:39] <apw> sconklin, excellent let me do it
[16:39] <apw> sconklin, as i think i have the fix for the erroring foun
[16:39] <sconklin> I suspect that the same is true of Maverick, checking
[16:39] <apw> foudn
[16:39] <apw> sconklin, i will do both if they need it ... let me know
[16:39] <herton> yes, maverick is the same
[16:40] <herton> we reverted two patches (1 failed verification, the other is the tlb regression)
[16:40] <sconklin> and - it's difficult to determine exactly what Natty the backports kernel is based on, because when we drop the patches and respin Natty and only change the upload number, that doesn't get propagated into the backports version or log that I can see
[16:40] <apw> sconklin, the version of the backports is identicle to the one is it based on
[16:41] <apw> sconklin, with ~lucid1 on the end
[16:42] <sconklin> oh, well then perhaps it does contain the reverts and is up to date
[16:42] <sconklin> one sec
[16:43] <sconklin> Yes, it appears that what's in the PPA for natty backports reflects the latest natty (.46), so it only needs copying to -proposed.
[16:44] <sconklin> apw: I get it now, thanks
[16:44] <apw> sconklin, ok and i think i have the erroring out crap sorted for next time, pushed to natty and maverick backports branches
[16:44] <sconklin> excellent
[16:52] <sconklin> apw, smb, tgardner: who is qualified to make a decision about whether it's OK to ship Natty with the CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA issue? As it is it's stopped based on the QA testing failure, and we need to know whether to override that or respin (please be the former).
[16:52] <tgardner> sconklin, we talked about that earlier this morning. its not a regression so shouldn't hold up this release. smb is investigating....
[16:53] <smb> sconklin, We had been disabling that because of some i386 ec2 problem
[16:53] <tgardner> it _used_ to cause ec2 issues, but has perhaps been fixed in the interim
[16:53] <smb> sconklin, So its not a regression. But it seems based on my current test that it could get enabled again
[16:53] <smb> sconklin, Is there a bug open for it already?
[16:53] <sconklin> ok, I'm going to consider that two acks for releasing what we have
[16:54] <sconklin> smb: Not that I'm aware of. herton may know
[16:54] <herton> I think there is no bug open for that
[16:55] <smb> Ok, so I will open one for submitting the patch to enable it again when I am done with all the tests I wanted to do
[16:56] <bjf> sconklin, as stable mgr. i think it's your call
[16:56] <sconklin> bjf: Updating the bug now to ship it.
[16:56] <sconklin> I just wasn't clear on the technical implications.
[16:58] <sconklin> apw: when do the build run on the master-next branches?
[16:58] <sconklin> builds
[16:58] <bjf> sconklin, new tag: "let 'er buck"
[17:01] <sconklin> bjf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Slim-pickens_riding-the-bomb_enh-lores.jpg
[17:02] <ppisati> don't we have the meeting now?
[17:03] <bjf> ppetraki, was daydreaming
[17:20] <smb> bjf, nice the tags listing sort of is just the right start point to look for some of my tags of interest
[17:21] <bjf> smb, if there are other spins/mappings you'd like to see, let me know, i plan on adding more that I think are of value
[17:21] <apw> sconklin, as in when is pre-proposed uploaded?  09:00 UTC
[17:22] <tgardner> bjf, how about a graph showing the number of comments in a bug? or the number of subscribers, or the number of 'affects me', etc
[17:22] <apw> though i have been thinking it should be checked hourly and uploaded if its more than 24 hours since it last was uploaded and different
[17:24] <sconklin> ok, I am commencing fixup of the -next branches
[17:24] <bjf> tgardner, i'll put that on the list
[17:25] <tgardner> bjf, just thoughts on how to gauge what bugs are really pissing people off
[17:25] <apw> heat ?
[17:25] <bjf> tgardner, apw, "kernel gravity"
[17:26] <bjf> tgardner, apw, "bitch factor"
[17:26]  * smb thinks bugs against dapper, gutsy and feisty at least should be targets to kill...
[17:26] <apw> heh i meant there is already a heat
[17:26] <bjf> smb, yes, a script is on my list
[17:27] <bjf> smb, "won't fix" all unsupported series
[17:27] <smb> bjf, nice :)
[17:27] <apw> bjf, i may have the bones of that already, in the bugs/proc-cve-bugs
[17:27] <apw> which works out the same equasion, is this package supported on this release
[17:27] <smb> apw, There is definitely heat... oh you meant the bug heat :-P
[17:28] <sconklin> heat index is 105F here
[17:28] <apw> 18.9c here, which is nowhere near that, less than 70f
[17:29] <smb> 28°C -> 82°F in my room...
[17:29] <apw> smb, man you need to smash some windows
[17:30] <mjg59> apw: That'll just let the heat in
[17:30]  * smb hopes the distant grumble means coolness
[17:30] <apw> mjg59, without aircon, its almost cirtain that his machine heavy room is hotter than outside
[17:31] <smb> apw, Was suppusedly 30 outside
[17:31] <apw> smb, you need to move
[17:31] <apw> (slowly :)
[17:32] <smb> apw, Was about to say that moving makes me feel even warmer
[17:32] <smb> :)
[17:36] <bjf> smb, the high for the next 10 days is 26C, mostly 18 - 23
[17:37] <smb> bjf, I hope they are right
[17:43]  * tgardner reboots to test CVE-2010-4251
[17:43] <ubot2> tgardner: The socket implementation in net/core/sock.c in the Linux kernel before 2.6.34 does not properly manage a backlog of received packets, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (memory consumption) by sending a large amount of network traffic, as demonstrated by netperf UDP tests. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2010-4251)
[18:15] <tgardner> sconklin, when a Q/A test fails do they stop testing right away?
[18:16] <sconklin> tgardner: good question. I assumed not because the bug said something like "18 tests, 1 fail", but there may have been 30 tests total. I don't know.
[18:17] <tgardner> sconklin, likely worth following up on before setting a Q/A to released
[18:17] <tgardner> a Q/Q task*
[18:17] <tgardner> bah
[18:17] <sconklin> yeah, probably too late for this one, but good question. bjf, do you know? ^^
[18:17] <tgardner> sconklin, I know cert baila on the first failure
[18:17] <tgardner> bails*
[18:18] <sconklin> that's not terribly useful
[18:18] <tgardner> doesn't seem like it to me either
[18:18] <bjf> sconklin, from what i've seen, it depends on the failure
[18:19] <bjf> hggdh, ^^ thoughts?
[18:19] <hggdh> sconklin: no, I do not stop on first failure
[18:20] <hggdh> the failure may be localised, or other archs/kernels may show different failures, so I consider it worth the time to keep on
[18:21] <hggdh> what I do is warn I found a failure, tag the bug accordingly, and keep on
[18:21] <hggdh> bjf: ^
[18:22] <bjf> hggdh, thanks, i think that is what we'd like to see done as well
[18:22] <bjf> sconklin, tgardner ^^
[18:22] <tgardner> ack
[18:22] <sconklin> hggdh: thanks!
[18:22] <hggdh> specifically to the QRTs, all unit tests on each module are run to the end
[18:23] <sconklin> hggdh: did you see that I overrode your QA failure?
[18:23] <hggdh> sconklin: yes, I did see. I had just ended with the KVM tests, so all is kosher
[18:23] <sconklin> hggdh: Thanks!
[18:24] <hggdh> sconklin: and this is actually what I expect to happen. I should not decide on overriding or not
[18:25] <hggdh> so... Lucid and Natty done. bjf, sconklin, a specific version you would like me to work on now, or anyone left is good?
[18:25] <sconklin> hggdh: ok, thanks. We'll have to modify processes as appropriate as QA gets more integrated and automated.
[18:26] <sconklin> Maverick is important for some folks. It may not be back in -proposed yet, let me check - hold on
[18:27] <hggdh> aye. Hoiw do you want go to forward on this error (Natty EC2 m1.small/i386 CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA)? Pass the next one, or still mark as failure?
[18:27] <sconklin> still mark as failure, because we should have it fixed in the next release. Force me to override it if needed ;)
[18:28] <hggdh> :-) a pleasure to, er, help ;-)
[18:30] <sconklin> hggdh: Maverick is still awaiting copy to -proposed, and as soon as that is done we will mark it verification complete because it is simply a respin with some reverts.
[18:30] <sconklin> So in the meantime, grab something else . . .
[18:30] <hggdh> sconklin: roger wilco
[18:32]  * tgardner --> lunch
[19:31]  * jjohansen -> lunch
[19:35] <njin> hello, there's someone experiencing Error insetingpadlock_sha in 3.0.0-4 ? any workaround to restore system?
[19:36] <njin> Error inserting padlock_sha
[19:41] <tgardner> njin, is it the right kind of CPU ?
[19:41] <tgardner> this is not typically a fatal error
[19:42] <njin> tgardner, is the yesterday update, system is locked at login screen, nothing working, no panic
[19:43] <tgardner> njin, thats likely something other then a crypto engine failure
[19:43] <njin> encrypted /home cannot be mounted, no mouse or console, only sysrq
[19:43] <njin> unfortunately no thing in the log files
[19:43] <tgardner> njin, and 3.0-3 consistently works ?
[19:44] <njin> 3.0-3 yes fine
[19:44] <tgardner> njin, boot 3.0-3 and run 'ubuntu-bug linux' with a description of the problem. 3.0.0-5.6 is almost ready as well (-rc7)
[19:45] <njin> tgardner, many thanks, i'll do it
[19:55] <bjf> jjohansen, ok as roomie for orlando?
[19:57] <tgardner> ogasawara, oneiric is done building. would you like me to upload -meta ?
[19:57] <ogasawara> tgardner: go for it
[20:01] <jjohansen> bjf: yep
[20:04] <bjf> jjohansen, ok, i've entered it into the write-only registration system
[20:05] <jjohansen> bjf: ugh, I can't believe we have to use that system again
[20:06] <tgardner> ogasawara, uploaded and announcement sent
[20:06] <ogasawara> tgardner: awesome, thanks
[20:06] <ogasawara> tgardner: I'll post a blurb to voices.c.c too
[20:07] <tgardner> ogasawara, hmm, did<EMAIL_ADDRESS>go away? I got a bounce message
[20:07] <ogasawara> tgardner: it bounced for me as well so I quit sending to it
[20:08] <tgardner> ogasawara, I guess I'll fix the wiki
[20:17] <hggdh> smb: there still?
[20:23] <jjohansen> hggdh: hopefully not, its 22:22 for him
[20:23] <hggdh> jjohansen: heh. I had to try... will ping him tomorrow, then, thank you
[20:23] <jjohansen> hggdh: anything I can help with?
[20:24] <jjohansen> hggdh: I could also rely a message when he comes on in the morning
[20:33] <hggdh> jjohansen: this is related to bug 790712 -- smb asked for a syslog. But a debian-installer "syslog" shows much of the installer activities, and almost nothing else...
[20:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 790712 in linux "20110531 i386 server ISO: order 5 allocation failure during install" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790712
[20:33] <hggdh> jjohansen: so I added a d-i syslog to the bug, but I am unsure on what he will find there...
[20:34] <jjohansen> hggdh: can you add the kernel log as well
[20:34] <hggdh> jjohansen: there is no kernel log
[20:34] <jjohansen> hggdh: no kernel log?  How about dmesg?
[20:35] <jjohansen> is it possible to retrieve that
[20:35] <hggdh> hum
[20:35] <hggdh> not directly -- the install never ends, so we do not have control/access to the VM. But I can run it manually here, reproduce the error, and collect it (I hope)
[20:36] <jjohansen> hggdh: if its doing order 5 allocations, it isn't surprising that it is failing
[20:36] <jjohansen> hggdh: worth a try
[20:36] <hggdh> I do not disagree. The thing is 480M should be enough to install an i386 kernel... and it does not happen always
[20:41] <ogasawara> apw: just fyi, I'm able to post to voices.c.c/kernelteam
[21:22] <manjo> ogasawara, in delta review Manoj Iyer
[21:22] <manjo> Quirk to fix suspend/resume on Lenovo Edge 11,13,14,15
[21:22] <manjo> UBUNTU: SAUCE: (drop after 2.6.38) add ricoh 0xe823 pci id.
[21:22] <manjo> those two patches can be dropped as they should be in stable already
[21:23] <manjo> ogasawara, the 3rd one has original author as Timo so I have emailed him to report the status
[21:23] <bjf> manjo, did you add your comments to the blueprint like everyone else?
[21:24] <manjo> bjf, not yet ... this was just brought to my attn so going to do that next .. thought I will tell ogasawara 1st
[21:24] <bjf> manjo, and actually its the spec at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/KernelOneiricUbuntuDeltaReview
[21:25] <manjo> bjf, thanks yes I know
[21:27] <manjo> bjf, just updated blueprint
[21:28] <manjo> bjf, I think ogasawara needs to mod the wiki?
[21:55] <ogasawara> manjo: thanks, if you can just make a note of this in the wiki under your section that'd be good.  I'll revert the two patches for now and then drop them upon the next rebase.


[17:09] <charliepurple1> Hey there, for bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1164788 I was asked to test an upstream kernel. I installed it and then my networking (including wired) disappeared, as if there just wasn't any hardware for it. It also affected USB stuff. is there a way to test it and also have network stuff running?
[17:09] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1164788 in linux "13.04 kernel panic: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffec" [High,Confirmed]
[17:44] <maxb> charliepurple1: Just a guess - did you install both the linux-image and linux-image-extra packages for the upstream test kernel version?
[17:44] <charliepurple1> Yes, I did.
[17:45] <maxb> Hm, no idea then
[17:45] <charliepurple1> I'll give it another go. I'm on a new install now, so maybe it'll be different.
[21:57] <zequence> infinity: Kernels smoke tested. Also, not really related to kernels, but should I poke someone to get this SRU uploaded, or does that happen in due time? Bug #956438
[21:57] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 956438 in jackd2 (Ubuntu Quantal) "jackdbus crashes on stop" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956438
[21:57] <zequence> If poking would help, I guess I'm poking you :)


[02:04] <jessica> https://filetea.me/t1srJPfpdScRR21CbOHorUQdg
[02:05] <daftykins> yeah so not clicking that
[02:08] <Bashing-om> Uh Unh, nope, no way .. not on your life .
[02:29] <dax> i clicked it but nothing happened, i am disappointed
[02:29] <dax> though my firefox settings are not exactly default, so ymmv
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> good morning guys
[03:53] <dax> lotuspsychje: yep, i saw them, went through and poked as needed
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> dax: thank you : )
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> dax: im over halfway the pages, still few to come
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> jbirky: you can chitchat about ubuntu here if you like
[03:59] <dax> !-discuss
[03:59] <ubot5`> discuss has no aliases - added by IdleOne on 2012-06-24 19:44:28 - last edited by rww on 2015-10-05 05:04:55
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> :p
[03:59] <dax> !no, discuss is <reply> Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !support | dax found this one very usefull
[03:59] <ubot5`> dax found this one very usefull: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> dax: when users join and ask: what is this??
[04:00] <jbirky> Thanks
[04:00] <dax> lotuspsychje: yeah, i like that one also
[04:01] <dax> we throw it at -offtopic people on occasion
[04:01] <dax> specifically the random people who use it as #ubuntu-expedited-support-line
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> lemme dig into factoids while you still awake :p
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> morning baizon
[05:10] <baizon> hi lotuspsychje
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: got a ghost following? ben64_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> have a nice one all
[06:23] <ruenoak> evening
[09:13] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all


[02:54] <jamesh> amurray: I was wondering if you have any ideas about https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12069#discussion_r957045090 ?
[02:54] <mup> PR #12069: interfaces: grant access to the Wayland socket in the slot snap's private XDG_RUNTIME_DIR <Created by jhenstridge> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12069>
[02:55] <jamesh> amurray: Everything seems to be working fine in recent Ubuntu releases, but the AppArmor denials in older ones are weird.
[06:09] <mup> PR snapd#11025 closed: interfaces: Allow access to hunspell dictionaries for spellchecking <⛔ Blocked> <Created by gunnarhj> <Closed by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11025>
[06:18] <amurray> jamesh: hmm ouid is meant to mean object uid iirc - but this is a bit beyond my depth re apparmor internals - I'll see if I can get jjohansen to take a look
[06:39] <jamesh> amurray: thanks
[06:40] <jamesh> amurray: that part could be normal. The path in the denial also seems weird.
[06:47] <amurray> yeah I am definitely a bit confused by this but I don't have enough time to dig down into it to try and figure out what is happening - hopefully jj may be able to just look at it and provide some advice
[06:52] <jamesh> If the answer is "this aspect of unix domain socket handling is broken in old Ubuntu releases", that'd be fine. I mostly interested in 22.04+ here, and the old distros have got by just fine without the changes to this interface.
[07:02] <amurray> that sounds reasonable (ie to not worry about trying to handle this on older releases) - but it would be good to understand what the underlying issue is nonetheless
[07:14] <mup> PR snapd#12085 closed: multiple: clear up naming convention for cpu-set quota <Simple 😃> <Created by Meulengracht> <Merged by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12085>
[12:01] <mup> PR snapd#12095 closed: snap/quota,wrappers: allow using 0 values for the journal rate limit <quota> <Created by Meulengracht> <Closed by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12095>
[12:11] <mup> PR snapd#12095 opened: snap/quota,wrappers: allow using 0 values for the journal rate limit <quota> <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12095>
[13:36] <mup> PR snapd#11907 closed: many: hold and resume refreshes <Needs Samuele review> <Created by MiguelPires> <Closed by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11907>
[13:46] <mup> PR snapd#11302 closed: exportmanager: add export manifest <Needs Samuele review> <Precious but later :heart:> <Created by mvo5> <Closed by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11302>
[13:46] <mup> PR snapd#11630 closed: configcore: allow disable `systemd-timesyncd` <⛔ Blocked> <Precious but later :heart:> <Created by mvo5> <Closed by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11630>
[13:51] <mup> PR snapd#12004 closed: tests: add `snapd.debug=1 systemd.journald.forward_to_console=1` <Run nested> <Precious but later :heart:> <Created by mvo5> <Closed by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12004>
[15:37] <mup> PR snapd#12088 closed: many: Set SNAPD_APPARMOR_REEXEC=1 <Created by alexmurray> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12088>
[15:37] <mup> PR snapd#12096 closed: store/tooling,tests: support UBUNTU_STORE_URL override env var <cherry-picked> <snap-revision-delegation> <Created by pedronis> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12096>
[15:42] <mup> PR snapd#12020 closed: data: include snapd/mounts in preseeded blob <cherry-picked> <Created by kubiko> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12020>
[16:02] <mup> PR snapd#12105 opened: release: 2.57.2 <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12105>
[16:37] <mup> PR snapd#12105 closed: release: 2.57.2 <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12105>
[17:22] <mup> PR snapd#12106 opened: release: merge changelog for 2.57.2 <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12106>


[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135676 in gnome-app-install (main) "add/remove apps crashes by installing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135676
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #135692 in ubuntu "My computer (Acer Aspire 1501LMi) halts installing gutsy from alternate CD due to powernow_k8 not loading (max temperature reached)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135692
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #135693 in language-pack-cs (main) "Peklep v pekladu Akregatoru" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135693
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #135695 in php-interbase (universe) "FTBFS: depends on php4-dev, which has been removed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135695
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #135702 in gedit (main) "gedit crashes when writing <a href="" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135702
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135707 in lxr-cvs (universe) "Mysql syntax, auto create db, Apache configuration" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135707
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #135711 in ubuntu "Acer Aspire 5550 Laptop (Shutdown Problem)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135711
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #135712 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Can not change brightness on Samsung Q1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135712
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #135715 in ubuntu "X Should Use Logrotate" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135715
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #135716 in php-interbase (universe) "Please remove php-interbase from Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135716
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #135718 in pidgin (main) "Mouseover wrong buddy info" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135718
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135719 in firefox (main) "MASTER firefox crash with installed Flash Plugin on some websides" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135719
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135720 in mpfr (main) "sync request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135720
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #135721 in thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird crashes when i want to open the launchpad-registration-mail!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135721
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #135722 in pidgin (main) "1:2.1.1-2ubuntu1 does not remove old symlink on upgrade" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135722
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #135724 in gnome-terminal (main) "running python 2.5 in VMWare: can't get double quotation character onto screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135724
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #135727 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[Gutsy]  ipw3945 unable to connect to WPA-Enterprise Network after Kernel Upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135727
[03:32] <ubotu> New bug: #135731 in gaim (main) "gaim randomly acts as if it segfaults" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135731
[03:37] <ubotu> New bug: #135734 in ubuntu "libgnome crashed sigsegv" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135734
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #135735 in xmms (universe) "xmms crashed, reason unknown" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135735
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #135736 in pyopengl (universe) "Serious performance regression from recent update from 2.0.1 to 3.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135736
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #135739 in ubuntu "Firefox crashes frequently" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135739
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135740 in firefox (main) "Firefox History Deleted when viewed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135740
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #135742 in ubuntu "apall" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135742
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #135747 in vala (main) "Please sync vala (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135747
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #135746 in ubuntu "some problems in Gutsy Gibbon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135746
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #135748 in ubuntu "123" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135748
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #135749 in dokuwiki (universe) "dokuwiki not accessible after install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135749
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135751 in gnome-panel (main) "SWscanner crash on fires use" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135751
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #135752 in language-selector (main) "Language support not enabled for the installation language" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135752
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135756 in firebird2.0 (universe) "I can't install package because /var/run/firebird/2.0 doesn't exist" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135756
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #135757 in kdebase (main) "Menu changes could not be saved because of the following problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135757
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135760 in ubuntu "Ubuntu doesnt support Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135760
[09:48] <ubotu> New bug: #135762 in aprsd (universe) "[FTBFS]  aprsd because of old fashioned linux headers" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135762
[09:48] <ubotu> New bug: #135763 in glade-3 (main) "I can't move widgets in Glade 3.2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135763
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #135764 in ubuntu "ASUS F3TC laptop hardware detection failure (fiesty)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135764
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #135765 in bash (main) "bash assignment results in syntax error in script" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135765
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #135767 in mono (main) "mono crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135767
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #135768 in bbkeys (universe) "[FTBFS]  bbkeys because of missing libxext-dev" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135768
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #135769 in gqview (main) "[gutsy]  gqview won't rotate / flip" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135769
[10:55] (ubotu/#ubuntu-bugs) New bug: #135783 in openoffice.org (main) "Superscript/Subscript buttons have no effect" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135783
[10:56] (ubotu/#ubuntu-bugs) New bug: #135782 in silky (universe) "[FTBFS]  silky (0.5.4-0.1) fails to build in gutsy" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135782
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #135780 in postfix "Please backport postfix 2.4 to feisty" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135780
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #135784 in dhcp (main) "dhcp doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135784
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #135785 in evolution-scalix (universe) "Evolution-scalix installs files in the wrong location" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135785
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #135786 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "package sun-java6-bin None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-bin.list]  failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135786
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135787 in kdepim (main) "In Gutsy, Kontact fails to only fetch unread emails from the server: Unable to complete LIST operation." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135787
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135788 in fslint (universe) "fslint - something missing in gutsy 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135788
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #135789 in compiz-plugins (universe) "Shift Switcher: Odd re-focus behaviour switching between different windows spanning different desktops" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135789
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #135790 in kdepim (main) "[gutsy]  moved emails appear as new with disconnected imap" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135790
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #135791 in usplash (main) "usplash not starting in xubuntu tribe 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135791
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135792 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox does not use the http_proxy, freezes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135792
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #135793 in audacious (universe) "(Gutsy) Audacious very slow when associated with streamtuner" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135793
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #135794 in command-not-found (main) "[gutsy]  command-not-found not found" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135794
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #135795 in firefox (main) "mozilla firefox close" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135795
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #135800 in jmagick (universe) "[remove]  Please remove jmagick from archives" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135800
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #135801 in openoffice.org (main) "scanner not detected in oo" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135801
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #135803 in wengophone (universe) "[UVFe]  Please allow merge wengophone from Debian sid" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135803
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #135804 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "thunderbird crashes on compose" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135804
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #135806 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager/dhclient hogs CPU (Live session mode)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135806
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #135808 in sqliteodbc (universe) "Can't read dbase" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135808
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #135809 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  User switching, hibernate not working with nvidia driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135809
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #135812 in obexfs (universe) "can't add files to mounted volume, no free space sony Z610i" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135812
[01:36] <manchicken> Anybody know anything about Bug 93360?
[01:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 93360 in dhcdbd "Dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.reason" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93360
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135813 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[gutsy]  incorrect sleep type and timeout" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135813
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #135814 in cheese (universe) "Yet another UVF for 0.2.3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135814
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135818 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Gutsy xen-3.1/kernel-2.6.22 dom0 kernel panic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135818
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135819 in kqemu (universe) "kqemu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135819
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #135822 in gnome-screensaver (main) "F-spot preview encounters a fatal error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135822
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135823 in ubuntu "USB Drive mounts as "rw", but I cannot write to it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135823
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #135826 in fail2ban (universe) "Please sync fail2ban (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135826
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #135827 in ubuntu "Sound and CD don't work in Toshiba notebook." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135827
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #135830 in ubuntu "D-link is not detected after upgrade to gutsy gibbon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135830
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #135831 in firefox (main) "[Gutsy]  Firefox crashs with Segmentation Fault on some websites" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135831
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #135833 in ubuntu "[patch]  snd-hda-intel not working with alsa 1.0.14" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135833
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #135832 in evince (main) "Evince gnomeprint support is broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135832
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135834 in xsp (universe) "package mono-xsp 1.2.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135834
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #135836 in gnome-terminal (main) "Get Terminal instead of Firefox browser" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135836
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #129437 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed g_str_hash() while setting account signature" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129437
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #135837 in gst-plugins-base0.10 (main) "decodebin patch for codec install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135837
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #135839 in gnome-applets (main) "Disk Mounter (drivemount_applet2) should display available/total capacity in tooltip" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135839
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #135843 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  Many "Unknown Devices" in output of lspci" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135843
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #135844 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer doesn't follow toolbar settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135844
[04:28] <bddebian> Boo
[04:30] <ogra> bee
[04:31] <ScottK> bop
[04:31] <ScottK> bling
[04:32] <ubotu> New bug: #135845 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Gnofract 4D" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135845
[04:34] <Hobbsee> mmm...shiny
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #135846 in clamav (universe) "Please merge clamav (0.91.2-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135846
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #135847 in kde-style-qtcurve (universe) "kde style qtcurve doesnt apply changes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135847
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #129522 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in giop_recv_buffer_get()" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129522
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #135848 in kdebase (main) "kmenuedit doesnt save changes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135848
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #135849 in ubuntu "Two optical drives both incorrectly linked to same IDE device [hdc] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135849
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #135850 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Protoeditor" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135850
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #135851 in postfix (main) "postconf readme_directory reports a directory when upstream README files are not installed" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135851
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #135852 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Ultimate Stunts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135852
[05:15] <ImNOTcesarefalco> bddebian: NO! :-)
[05:16] <bddebian> Heh
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #135860 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Second Life" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135860
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #135862 in kdepim (main) "kmail crashed with SIGSEGV in QGList::prepend()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135862
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #135861 in ubuntu "GDM Crashes on Login on Thinkpad R60" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135861
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135863 in ubuntu "Bad substitution in echo ${a:2:2} from a file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135863
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #135864 in ubuntu "ppgplot package request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135864
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #135865 in evince (main) "Incorrectly rendered why_mashups_suck.pdf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135865
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #135866 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  GTKImageView" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135866
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #135867 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  gbtsco (Bluetooth headset manager)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135867
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #135868 in network-manager (main) "Connection to wireless network fails with manual configuration" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135868
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #135870 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  GDL (GNU Data Language)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135870
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #135871 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  lcdtest" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135871
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #135873 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  qsopcast" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135873
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #135874 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  StepMania" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135874
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #135876 in ubuntu "[needs packaging]  glick" [Wishlist,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135876
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135879 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  SDLMAME" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135879
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135880 in compiz (main) "Expo plugin makes black/white screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135880
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #135881 in util-linux (main) "/bin/arch missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135881
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135882 in qt4-x11 (main) "On a multihead Xinerama setup, menus in qt4 apps are displayed in wrong places" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135882
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #135883 in gnomesword (universe) "gnomesword crashed when viewing the parallel tab and clicking on viewcontext" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135883
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #135884 in firefox (main) "help section in firefox on ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135884
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #135596 in gnome-session (main) "gnome-session crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135596
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #135885 in acpid (main) "package acpid 1.0.4-5ubuntu8 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135885
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #135886 in pidgin (main) "Pidgin should refresh active accounts after coming back from suspend/hibernate" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135886
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #135887 in mplayer (universe) "mplayer doesn't work correctly with beryl+emerald on KDE" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135887
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #135889 in ubuntu "Unable to change number of available workspaces with desktop effects enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135889
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #135890 in synaptic (main) "wrong button descriptions in synaptic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135890
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #135893 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135893
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #135892 in nautilus (main) "gnome-panel (upper and lower) have disappeared" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135892
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #135894 in tilp (universe) "remove tilp from gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135894
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #135895 in ubuntu "evolution exchange doesn't display contacts on exchange server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135895
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #135896 in evolution-exchange (main) "Calendars don't show subscribed public folder with same name" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135896
[08:52] <ubotu> New bug: #135898 in ghostscript (main) "autopkgtest gutsy ghostscript: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135898
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #135899 in ubuntu "kmail smtp cerificate validation won't remember accept forever" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135899
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #135901 in xchat-gnome (main) "server screen didn't updated" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135901
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #135902 in rhythmbox (main) "No Sound" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135902
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #135903 in gdm (main) "gutsy: at-spi-registryd not starting automatically during gdmlogin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135903
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #135904 in xaos (main) "system crashes when using Xaos fractal gen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135904
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #135906 in ubuntu "Fiesty mount command does not apply journal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135906
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #135909 in wpasupplicant (main) "wpa_supplicant isn't killed on unplug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135909
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135911 in texlive-extra (main) "[gutsy]  request for Tex Gyre fonts to be added to texlive-fonts-extra" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135911
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #135912 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Sort order for memory fields in process list is inverted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135912
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #135976 in ubuntu "Intalling Ubuntu in raid 0 striping" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135976
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #135979 in evolution (main) "gnome pilot does not synchronise To Do list (tasks)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/135979
[10:09] <cavedon> hi all!
[10:10] <cavedon> a question about ubuntu bug tracking with LP: I noticed that is is possible to sync the status of the bug with the upstream bug tracking system
[10:10] <cavedon> but is it reasonable to do so?
[10:11] <cavedon> if the bug is closed upstream, it does not mean it has already been closed in ubuntu
[10:11] <bdmurray> cavedon: could you provide me with an example of what you mean?
[10:11] <ogra> cavedon, thats why there are two tasks in a bug with upstream connection
[10:12] <ogra> if upstream closes its bug, only the upstream task is updated ... the ubuntu bug stays pen until the new upstream surce is there
[10:12] <cavedon> bdmurray: e.g. a bug is closed upstream with a patch
[10:12] <cavedon> bdmurray: it will take some time before the patch is packages for ubuntu
[10:13] <cavedon> the ubuntu package should not be closed until then
[10:13] <bdmurray> cavedon: that is correct
[10:13] <cavedon> ogra: ah, ok... now I understand; is there some documentation about that?
[10:14] <ogra> no idea, sorry, i learned that when LP was young
[10:14] <ogra> by IRC intro when the feature was added :)
[10:14] <ogra> but i bet someone wrote it down :)
[10:15] <cavedon> ogra: np, tnx!
[10:15] <bdmurray> cavedon: it might be worth adding to the bugsquad faq
[10:15] <cavedon> bdmurray: I think so, it is not streighforward
[10:16] <bdmurray> cavedon: so the concept of multiple bug tasks needs documenting?
[10:18] <cavedon> bdmurray: myabe the question should be: "What happens if a activate "remote watch" on a bug on the upstream bug tracker?"
[10:19] <cavedon> bdmurray: or maybe more in detail "If I  activate "remote watch" on a bug on the upstream bug tracker, will be its status be propagated to LP nug status?"
[10:20] <cavedon> bdmurray: because, under "remote watch", the first choice is "None, the status of the bug is updated manually.", so I lead to think that in the other case the status is propagated
[10:23] <Kmos> cavedon: every night that watch will be checked
[10:28] <cavedon> Kmos: ok, tnx
[10:30] <pedro_> oouuhch
[10:30] <pedro_> is my idea or we have a problem in LP?
[10:30] <pedro_> there's a hundreds of exile bugs
[10:31] <pedro_> or maybe my browser went mad
[10:33] <pedro_> ah migration. forget what i said.
[11:01] <cavedon> I need some help in handling a bug; I understood the cause, but I cannot decide to what package assign them...
[11:01] <cavedon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=QApplicationPrivate%3A%3Aconstruct%28%29+SIGFPE&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=New&field.status%3Alist=Incomplete&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[11:01] <cavedon> Theese 3 bugs have the same cause
[11:02] <cavedon> (i.e. #104577, #112429, #112999) sorry for the long url
[11:02] <cavedon> the cause is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wengophone/+bug/104577/comments/4
[11:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104577 in wengophone "[apport]  qtwengophone crashed with SIGFPE in QApplicationPrivate::construct()" [Undecided,New]
[11:05] <cavedon> i.e.: the fglrx driver sets the display size to 0mm x 0mm
[11:05] <cavedon> and this makes the apllication crash
[11:05] <cavedon> application
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #136207 in ubuntu "New Package Freeze Exception for packages uploaded before the freeze" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136207
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #136208 in kopete (main) "No sound in kopete" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136208
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #136209 in mplayer (multiverse) "gmplayer parsing input.conf depends on locale" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136209
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #136210 in ubuntu "UVFe request: kompozer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136210
[11:07] <bdmurray> How is xorg configured?
[11:08] <cavedon> I am not experiencing the bug myself, but the user did not specify the display size
[11:08] <cavedon> and the display size was set to 0x0 by default
[11:09] <cavedon> the reporter said that it is fglrx fault
[11:10] <cavedon> bdmurray: however I am inclined to think that Qt library should do a some check
[11:10] <cavedon> so I would add "also affect libqt"
[11:11] <cavedon> first I will ask the reporter of the other users to report the display size
[11:11] <cavedon> if they report 0x0 I would mark the bugs as duplicate
[11:12] <cavedon> sounds reasonable?
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #136211 in classpath (universe) "FTBFS: missing include for /usr/include/xulrunner/nsISupports.h" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136211
[11:16] <bdmurray> cavedon: Yes, I'm curious as to how that display size got in there xorg.conf though
[11:16] <IntuitiveNipple> bdmurray: Do you have a minute?
[11:19] <bdmurray> IntuitiveNipple: okay
[11:20] <IntuitiveNipple> a word in private - its re a convo with BenC I had a couple weeks ago?
[11:27] <cavedon> bdmurray: for what I understood, the display size is not specified in xorg.conf, and the driver set it to 0x0
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #136214 in ubuntu "Hibernate breaks when booting with USB device attached (/dev/sda* changes to /dev/sdb*)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136214
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #136215 in openssh (main) "Avahi aware ssh client?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136215
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #136216 in pdp (universe) "PDP INIT ERROR: pd symbol clash....." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136216
[11:33] <bdmurray> Asking for xorg.conf and the xdpyinfo sounds good then
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #136218 in kssh (universe) "depend on openssh-client" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136218
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #136221 in gnushogi (universe) "xshogi is installed without gnushogi via add/remove, but menu item doesn't work without gnushogi" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136221
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #136225 in ubuntu "my.cnf includedir not working as expected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136225
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #136229 in gmp (main) "autopkgtest gutsy gmp: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136229


[03:29] <maiki> Hiya folks. I am trying to find the preferences in gedit.
[03:30] <maiki> It isn't in the edit menu, nor any other place. Is there another package I should install?
[03:30] <ennova> maiki: Click on the Gedit icon beside the Activities button on the top panel
[03:31] <maiki> It just says quit.
[03:32] <ennova> Which gnome version are you using?
[03:32] <maiki> Without looking it up with --version, it is the one that came with Gnome Ubuntu 13.10.
[03:33] <maiki> Er, Ubuntu Gnome.
[03:34] <maiki> GNOME Shell 3.8.4
[03:36] <ennova> Well, afaik the preferences are in that menu, Is there a Gear icon on the right top corner of the window
[03:39] <maiki> Nope. I am stumped.
[03:39] <maiki> Figured I was missing something obvious, but I've gone over all the normal things. Odd that it isn't in the edit menu, though.
[03:40] <maiki> I was thinking of removing and installing again, but when I go to remove it, it wants to remove ubuntu-gnome-desktop as well.
[03:40] <maiki> That sounds scary.
[03:43] <ennova> Had you by chance installed unity
[03:45] <ennova> This might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2170457&p=12769702&viewfull=1#post12769702
[04:13] <maiki> Thanks ennova. I guess I can try to edit it with dconf-editor. Would you happen to be able to check the color schemes? I can put in a string, and the default is classic. I am not sure what the others are called.
[04:14] <maiki> Also, does no one else have this issue? I thought it would be wide-spread, can't figure out what is different on my system.
[07:32] <pratnala> hello
[07:36] <pratnala> is ubuntu gnome 14.04 shifting to mir as well?
[07:37] <pratnala> what are the implications for mac users? will gnome continue to run on a mac as it does now?
[07:37] <pratnala> and why isn't there a gnome amd64+mac iso like ubuntu has?
[07:55] <c_smith> pratnala, I think it's a bit early for most people to know that stuff.
[07:56] <c_smith> 14.04 hasn't even hit an alpha milestone.
[07:56] <pratnala> hmm. fair enough.
[07:56] <pratnala> and why no special mac iso like ubuntu?
[07:57] <c_smith> pratnala, the mac isos afaik were for booting with efi (not UEFI) where the multi-catalog part hadn't been figured out, might be wrong there, though.
[07:58] <c_smith> pratnala, how new is the mac you're asking this about? if it's newer, it SHOULD have uefi and no issue with booting the regular image.
[07:58] <pratnala> mid 2012
[07:58] <pratnala> ubuntu gnome runs fine but sort of hangs up sometimes.
[07:58] <pratnala> the windows just disappear
[07:58] <pratnala> i have to restart gdm then
[07:58] <c_smith> ah, well, tbh, I'm not a mac user (built my own pc) so I don't know much about them.
[07:59] <c_smith> pratnala, I have that issue on both my laptops, that isn't a EFI or bootloader issue, that's most likely a bug.
[07:59] <c_smith> pratnala, I recommend filing a bug about it.
[07:59] <pratnala> ahh okay. thought it was a bug on my mac
[07:59] <pratnala> where do i do that?
[08:00] <c_smith> pratnala, launchpad.net
[08:00] <pratnala> here? https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team
[08:00] <c_smith> pratnala, you'll need a launchpad account there, though. but be sure to give as much info related to the issue as possible.
[08:01] <pratnala> i have a launchpad account already.
[08:01] <pratnala> sure i'll try to give as much details as i can. but it is really very random
[08:01] <c_smith> pratnala, only if you're using a ppa they maintain (i.e. gnome 3 staging, gnome 3 next)
[08:01] <pratnala> i found a similar issue on askubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/235443/disappearing-windows-in-gnome-3
[08:01] <c_smith> pratnala, give me a sec.
[08:02] <c_smith> gonna look at that last link
[08:02] <pratnala> i installed from ubuntu gnome and then added ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[08:02] <pratnala> okay...
[08:03] <c_smith> pratnala, then yeah, I'd submit a bug report to the gnome3 team.
[08:03] <pratnala> but yeah i had this bug before adding that ppa too
[08:03] <c_smith> and if you are feeling especially helpful, put a bug in to upstream at the Gnome bugzilla.
[08:03] <pratnala> so which is the best place to file a bug?
[08:04] <c_smith> pratnala, I don't have that offhand, but I'll get it, give me a few to grab it, launchpad can be that complex, lol
[08:04] <pratnala> haha okay
[08:04] <c_smith> pratnala, I'm assuming you'll be having the issue with gnome shell itself.
[08:05] <pratnala> yes gnome shell
[08:05] <c_smith> there's a launchpad page for that.
[08:05] <pratnala> it happens once a day at momst
[08:05] <pratnala> most*
[08:05] <pratnala> where's that?
[08:05] <c_smith> this is the package on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/gnome-shell
[08:06] <c_smith> if you report it there, and the devs deem it's a bug in a different package, they'll move it.
[08:06] <pratnala> alright. thanks a ton!
[08:06] <c_smith> no prob! feel free to come back here if you have other issues. :D
[08:06] <pratnala> one last question.
[08:06] <pratnala> this isnt a bug.
[08:06] <c_smith> alright. ask away
[08:07] <pratnala> how to get the default ubuntu themes (ambiance and radiance)? gtk and cursor theme
[08:07] <c_smith> that's a simple set of packages if I recall correctly.
[08:08] <Waterbottle> Hello guys, before I download this: does this have Amazon integration and does it support UEFI booting?
[08:08] <pratnala> c_smith, which packages?
[08:08] <pratnala> sorry i dont have any idea
[08:09] <c_smith> pratnala, for radiance, you'd either search for it in the software manager by the theme name, same with ambiance.
[08:09] <pratnala> Waterbottle, I think amazon is unity specific but UEFI should work.
[08:09] <c_smith> I believe both include the cursor, not 100% certain.
[08:09] <pratnala> c_smith, in the ubuntu software center?
[08:09] <c_smith> pratnala, yes, or synaptic if you chose to go that route. both would work.
[08:09] <Waterbottle> Sweet, thanks Pratnala. I'd hate to have to disable the whole load of settings just to dual boot
[08:10] <pratnala> c_smith, okay thanks again!
[08:10] <c_smith> Waterbottle, yeah, that's the main reason I prefer Gnome. lol
[08:10] <c_smith> pratnala, no prob. :D
[08:10] <pratnala> Waterbottle, no problem buddy! just switched from Ubuntu to Ubuntu Gnome full time and am loving it :D
[08:10] <pratnala> Gnome sure feels more professional and clean
[08:10] <c_smith> Waterbottle, also, just a recommendation, but check out extensions.gnome.org when you install it.
[08:11] <c_smith> that's the site for gnome shell extensions.
[08:11] <c_smith> pratnala, true story, feel free to come back to this channel if you have more questions about Ubuntu Gnome. :)
[08:12] <pratnala> i found something called light themes in synaptic but that didn't add cursor themes :(
[08:12] <pratnala> i want a white cursor.
[08:13] <c_smith> ah, that might be in the default install, don't know for sure, getting ready to wipe windows off this machine and put Ubuntu Gnome back on it.
[08:13] <pratnala> thats called dmz cursor. found it :D
[08:14] <c_smith> pratnala, nice!
[08:14] <pratnala> i really like the mac style mission control in gnome! :D
[08:14] <c_smith> pratnala, mind if I give a recommendation on a place to get some decent gnome and gtk themes, and cursor themes?
[08:15] <pratnala> please do so!
[08:15] <c_smith> http://www.noobslab.com/
[08:15] <c_smith> that site has got a decent selection,
[08:16] <pratnala> why doesnt tweak tool have a setting for window theme? it was there when i slapped gnome on top of unity.
[08:16] <pratnala> thanks for that!
[08:17] <pratnala> now my title bar looks like adwaita and window looks like ambiance lol
[08:17] <c_smith> no clue.
[08:17] <c_smith> anyway. you're very welcome.
[08:18] <pratnala> thanks again!