[00:01] <danishanish> hey guys
[00:04] <OmegaOne> !ops
[00:04] <wafflej0ck> OmegaOne, what's wrong?
[00:04] <OmegaOne> wafflej0ck, im a troll
[00:04] <OmegaOne> !ops
[00:06] <wafflej0ck> danishanish, for general chat join #ubuntu-offtopic if you have a support question about ubuntu feel free to just ask
[00:06] <NinjaCowboy> I think I just messed up things further. I ran "unity --reset" and "gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1". Now I have no launcher, panel, or window borders.
[00:08] <daswichtel> did anyone read may question 40 min ago?
[00:08] <Svetlana> didn't see it
[00:08] <daswichtel> shall i repost?
[00:09] <NinjaCowboy> Both of those commands froze my desktop afterwards and made me do a hard reset.
[00:09] <Svetlana> daswichtel: please
[00:09] <daswichtel> np mom
[00:10] <daswichtel> ok in short: 14.04, soundout stops working every time when i pause a youtubevid or it ends. any ideas? didnt find a way else then reboot to get it work again. im on a fresh (4days old) install.
[00:11] <danishanish> hm
[00:11] <danishanish> same thing happens to me
[00:11] <danishanish> idk y
[00:12] <Stmeter> Hi guys. Weird problem I'm having. I have created a python script that connects to a HTTPS site, and it works fine on my Mac, but not on ubuntu. So I assumed it was a dependency issue, so I ported the code to PHP and I'm still having a problem with it timing out.
[00:12] <Stmeter> I have tried multiple fresh Ubuntu installs.
[00:12] <daswichtel> in addition: firefox and it worked perfekt for 3 days. no updates happend. no configchanges relating to sound
[00:13] <danishanish> r
[00:13] <daswichtel> it woudnt be a surprise if its a fuccked up adobe plugin.
[00:15] <ikonia> daswichtel: tone down the language please
[00:15] <ikonia> there is no need to swear
[00:16] <daswichtel> sry emotions took over. because i like adobe so much ;-) will not happen again
[00:16] <ikonia> daswichtel: not a problem, don't worry
[00:21] <taterzz> hi, I'm having an initramfs issue. I've looked through a lot of threads and none address the issue in respect to my box. It's an hp pavilion ED895AA
[00:21] <taterzz> there's no option for switching from ide to acpi or anything like that
[00:21] <taterzz> in the bios
[00:22] <taterzz> I've tried 32 bit and 64 bit, and several older versions of ubuntu and the issue still persists
[00:26] <daftykins> taterzz: so explain what happens exactly?
[00:26] <taterzz> (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[00:26] <taterzz> just hangs out there
[00:26] <taterzz> tried different usb sticks, slots
[00:26] <daftykins> so you're failing to boot live media, ok - did your ISO downloads hash ok?
[00:27] <daftykins> and how are you creating them?
[00:28] <taterzz> the hash worked out, tried start up creator and unetbootin
[00:28] <daftykins> ok, so the system you're creating from is a Linux host?
[00:29] <daftykins> can you plug the flash drive back in, identify the device name and run "sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.ISO of=/dev/sdX bs=2M" using USB ports on the motherboard directly? (if not a laptop)
[00:29] <taterzz> ok, sec
[00:29] <taterzz> yes linux
[00:32] <taterzz> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/NaqJE9zc
[00:33] <EriC^^> taterzz: you should dd to the drive not the partition i think
[00:34] <EriC^^> why are you installing 11.04 ?
[00:34] <taterzz> because some threads said it might work with an older version
[00:34] <taterzz> I thought that was the drive
[00:36] <EriC^^> nah sdb is the drive
[00:36] <daftykins> taterzz: yeah i said sdX, not sdX# :)
[00:36] <EriC^^> sdb1 is the first partition on that drive
[00:36] <taterzz> oohh
[00:36] <marie> bb
[00:36] <EriC^^> taterzz: id' try 12.04 lts though
[00:37] <taterzz> ok, i'll do that
[00:37] <taterzz> do i have to erase the drive or can i just use that command again?
[00:37] <EriC^^> no just use it again
[00:40] <bcm4318> I left my laptop running on battery for a long while and after i returned it was off. What is the command that will let know how long my computer was up before it switched itself off?
[00:41] <ObrienDave> there's a command for that?
[00:41] <taterzz> uptime ?
[00:42] <ObrienDave> learn something new everyday!
[00:43] <taterzz> daftykins, do i have to do anything else to make it bootable?
[00:43] <bcm4318> uptime will tell how long my laptop ha been running (meaning it is still up). Not how long it WAS up before it swictched off
[00:43] <EriC^^> actually uptime only shows how long the system has been up
[00:43] <daniel_> hello amigos =)
[00:43] <daswichtel> uptime can show how long the last uptime was? didnt know that
[00:44] <taterzz> oh i didn't know , i was just throwing it out there, daswichtel
[00:44] <EriC^^> you can probably get it from the reboot user
[00:44] <EriC^^> when the pc boots he logs in
[00:45] <EriC^^> type last reboot
[00:45] <daswichtel> look at the logs.
[00:45] <bcm4318> what logs?
[00:45] <EriC^^> but yeah, that'll only say when you last booted it, but not at what time it shut off by itself
[00:46] <EriC^^> bcm4318: look at /var/log/pm*.log
[00:46] <EriC^^> it probably mentions going to sleep or something
[00:46] <daswichtel> boah my brain... dont know the filename  but message.log or something
[00:47] <bcm4318> last reboot does not show  at what time my laptop  shut itself off when it ran out of battery power
[00:47] <daniel_> i am trying to reinstall my network-manager to ubuntu 12.04 -- i have no internet connection, so i downloaded the newest desktop version 14.10 and dd to a usb-stick, added to sources.list the line "deb file:/mnt utopic main restricted" (mounted the stick to /mnt before...), apt-get update is successfully, but when doing 'apt-get install network-manager', it's not found, only a reference (i think maybe the uncommented internet sources?)
[00:47] <daftykins> taterzz: nope, no extra steps
[00:48] <daniel_> lol, maybe too much in a row, but maybe someone can find the problematic spot, why the apt is not searching/finding the package from the stick.... or some diagnostic steps? i tried to inspect with dpkg-*-tools, but failed...
[00:49] <bcm4318> /var/log/pm-powersave.log does not show  at what time my laptop  shut itself off when it ran out of battery power
[00:49] <upyeclipse> so how do I copy everything in a folder including other folders to another folder?
[00:50] <daftykins> pretty sure you were told cp -R before
[00:50] <daftykins> but maybe rsync would be more relevant
[00:51] <pixelkat> is there any advantage in installing ubuntu 14.04 or 14.10 over elementary os luna?
[00:51] <taterzz> daftykins, the issue persists
[00:51] <pixelkat> also, if i were to install ubuntu, should i choose 14.04 or 14.10?
[00:52] <k1l> pixelkat: do you want to upgrade all 6 months?
[00:52] <pixelkat> what do you mean all 6 months?
[00:52] <daniel_> pixelkat, depends on what you prefer more: LTS (long term support) or the newest features...
[00:52] <pixelkat> oh
[00:52] <daftykins> taterzz: HP prioliant you say, get the latest BIOS installed and reload defaults
[00:53] <daftykins> well HP something or other
[00:53] <k1l> pixelkat: 14.04 is LTS and you can stay there for 5 years. on 14.10 you need to upgrade all 6 months to the next reelase.
[00:53] <pixelkat> i just want something solid and stable for recording, graphic and video editing
[00:53] <daniel_> nobody experienced in installing packages from local folders / usb-stick?
[00:53] <pixelkat> and to run snes, gba emulators
[00:53] <pixelkat> and minecraft
[00:53] <k1l> pixelkat: ok choose 14.04 and take a look at the ubuntu studio stuff
[00:54] <andlabs|2> two more data recovery questions
[00:54] <andlabs|2> 1) Is there a way I can find out what type of ext4 data structure (group header, indoe table, etc.) is at a given block with debugfs?
[00:54] <daswichtel> @pixelkat audio & stable..... hmmmm
[00:54] <andlabs|2> 2) only the first 10 blocks (40960 bytes) of the journal are lost - can I still use what's left to manually recover inode table entries?
[00:55] <taterzz> daftykins, that's a great idea thanks. Now it's just a matter of finding the bios update. HP not making it easy
[00:55] <pixelkat> ubuntu studio looks like it has way more than what i need
[00:55] <daftykins> taterzz: doh! maybe doing a reset now might help?
[00:55] <pixelkat> i will probably only use openshot , kazam, and gimp
[00:55] <andlabs|2> I already ran icheck on the block numbers and they don't seem to map to inode numbers so I'm guessing they're inode table entires but IDK how to find out
[00:55] <serventelite> just accidentally deleted windows 8.1 while trying to dual boot with ubuntu. So now i am just left with linux and i don't feel like reinstalling windows 8.1, its not worth it. Just linux now YAY.
[00:55] <k1l> pixelkat: then install plain 14.04
[00:56] <andlabs|2> serventelite: did you lose dta
[00:56] <k1l> pixelkat: and if you want support here dont install elementary
[00:56] <serventelite> most of it was backed up to a usb so nothing really
[00:56] <pixelkat> well, i like pantheon better than unity
[00:56] <RNeville> serventelite: great
[00:56] <pixelkat> is there a way to use pantheon instead of unity on 14.04
[00:56] <taterzz> daftykins, you mean loading the bios defaults?
[00:56] <ObrienDave> pixelkat, Studio uses XFCE
[00:56] <k1l> pixelkat: so you know to ask the elementary guys for help then
[00:57] <pixelkat> i like xfce
[00:57] <daswichtel> @Svetlana another 40 minutes shall i repost again or give up.... sry no offense
[00:57] <pixelkat> im in elementary but its crickets
[00:57] <ObrienDave> pixelkat, and you don't have to install ALL of Studio
[00:57] <daftykins> taterzz: yep
[00:57] <daniel_> pixelkat: you can install every pantheon on ubuntu, too...
[00:57] <pixelkat> oh
[00:57] <Svetlana> daswichtel: I may only suggest not using youtube web site. There is the youtube-dl package.
[00:57] <pixelkat> so i should install 14.04 and pantheon instead of unity?
[00:58] <taterzz> daftykins, already tried
[00:59] <pixelkat> looks like installing pantheon on 14.04 is a pain
[00:59] <daswichtel> @Svetlana you try to say not to use the "well designed" adobe plugin. and use any offlineplayer of my choice?
[00:59] <bufferloss> how do I run commands on startup?
[00:59] <Svetlana> daswichtel: vlc
[01:00] <daniel_> pixelkat: would be my solution...doesnt seem so painful to me, but never tried, only read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66757/how-to-install-the-pantheon-desktop-environment
[01:00] <daswichtel> sry im rofling......
[01:01] <k1l> pixelkat: take a look at xubuntu
[01:01] <pixelkat> ive used it
[01:01] <taterzz> daftykins, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?cc=us&lc=en&softwareitem=pv-56089-1 lol .exe file. Jebus
[01:01] <pixelkat> so far elementary luna has been my favorite but it still has bugs
[01:01] <pixelkat> maybe its user error i dont know
[01:01] <daniel_> k1l, it seems you have some experience gained, have you ever added a folder/usb-stick to your sources.list?
[01:02] <k1l> pixelkat: ok, so come back if you know if you want to use elementary or not. we cant help you on that decision
[01:02] <daswichtel> this ******* ***** ****** ******* *****player by this ****** and **** company named adobe is so great...
[01:02] <daftykins> taterzz: yeah, you might get away with win98 boot files on a disk if it's a DOS kinda prog
[01:02] <daftykins> taterzz: double check and triple check it's the right model though!
[01:02] <pixelkat> i just wnt the most solid and visually appealing OS to use for screen capture (kazam), bluetooth controlled music, openshot, and gimp
[01:02] <k1l> daniel_: no, and i would not do that.
[01:02] <pixelkat> elementary os uses a program called "music" thats bluetooth controlled
[01:02] <k1l> daniel_: if you want to install local stuff just use dpkg
[01:03] <daftykins> taterzz: oh, looks like XP - might be GUI :(
[01:03] <pixelkat> is there something like that for ubuntu 14.04?
[01:03] <taterzz> This is so stupid there isn't even an OS on the box.
[01:03] <daniel_> k1l: hmm,... but i have no internet connection on the netbook, no cat-cable.support and i need wifi-connection again... any tricks?
[01:04] <daswichtel> thx maybe they patch totally awesome in 2015. like the last years...... ok calm down. no further spam.
[01:04] <k1l> daniel_: get the .deb packages you need. put them on a usb, install them.
[01:05] <daniel_> haha, thanks - haven't thought about that ;)
[01:06] <taterzz> Alright. I'm gonna pirate WinXP then just so I can update the bios. God I have too much time on my hands
[01:06] <eury_> alguem tc português
[01:06] <daniel_> taterzz: +1 - pirating windows is always favorable xD
[01:07] <daftykins> daniel_: none of that childish attitude in here thanks
[01:07] <SchrodingersScat> !piracy
[01:07] <taterzz> haha yeah I posted on facebook the other day: "I can't wait to pirate the newest version of Windows as soon as it comes out!"
[01:07] <daftykins> taterzz: fair enough but please don't hint at illegal activity in future
[01:07] <taterzz> oh sorry
[01:07] <daftykins> off topic, support only thanks :)
[01:07] <daniel_> daftykins: okay, sorry, thought it could be fun ;)
[01:07] <daftykins> comedy lives in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <daftykins> daniel_: in there it can be ^
[01:08] <daniel_> daftykins: hmkay - didn't know this channel - thanks for the support ;)
[01:08] <Stmeter> If anyones avaliable: I have a PHP script that works on my Mac that sends information to a https site. Although when I try it on multiple Ubuntu installs, the script hangs. Any ideas?
[01:09] <daftykins> Stmeter: try a PHP channel :P
[01:09] <daswichtel> ok thx for your help... not for me. but for all u can do something for. bb
[01:09] <Armadillos> Question:  Does anyone have a link to set up my linux box to be a Radius server for my wireless access point?
[01:09] <Stmeter> daftykins: Not a programming problem. It doesn't work with python either.
[01:09] <Svetlana> daswichtel: I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I'm assuming things are working then?
[01:09] <daftykins> Stmeter: well you clean installed the OS a few times, so maybe they have a clue on what you're trying to do being wrong / lacking something.
[01:10] <daftykins> Stmeter: either way it's a better bet than repeating in here to no avail ;)
[01:10] <Stmeter> I guess so. It's just odd that it works locally. Thanks daftykins
[01:10] <daftykins> np
[01:11] <daswichtel> @svetlana problems occurd since i us youtube. i follow the 31c3 because i coudnt get there this year. i normally do exactly what u metioned.
[01:12] <Svetlana> I see.
[01:12] <daswichtel> but this time i was hmm a lazy bone? dont know if its the right phrase
[01:13] <Svetlana> It is a valid word, hehe.
[01:13] <daswichtel> but nevertheless its a bug
[01:15] <daswichtel> my fingers eat characters.... time to get to sleep. bb and keep up. btw happy new fear
[01:16] <SchrodingersScat> happy new fear indeed
[01:16] <wafflej0ck> danishanish, stepped away for a bit there have you tried in Chrome as well they have the embedded Pepper Flash plugin that's typically kept more up to date I believe in terms of Flash versions
[01:17] <jonascj> Hi all. How do I right-click on the top-bar to add an applet/widget? If I just right click on the bar I get nothing, if I right click close to the watch, nm-applet etc. then I just get their settings. This is ubuntu 14.04
[01:18] <wafflej0ck> danishanish, that said just tried in Firefox and I can't reproduce, play a video has audio, I pause it I start it still has audio
[01:18] <alex> happy new year ubuntu world
[01:20] <wafflej0ck> jonascj, don't believe Unity has support for extra applets/widgets in the panel aside from the default ones for system tasks (someone may correct me here) KDE panels tend to give you the most in terms of customization or you may want to check out Mate (based on Gnome 2) or perhaps XFCE or some other desktop environment
[01:21] <alex> can anyone help me?  I just loaded Ubuntu Studio onto my pc which already had Windows 7 and Cinnomon Quiana.  For some reason GRUB does list Windows 7, which I still need for various programs.  I can access files through the file manager, but cannot Launch Windows anymore.
[01:22] <BigBawb> Hello friends, I can't seem to connect to wifi if theres a password on the network
[01:22] <BigBawb> Im using an adapter thats using ndiswrapper
[01:22] <wafflej0ck> alex what happens when you choose to boot windows? the long story short is you'll need to get your grub configuration right and run update-grub in the end but need to determine what your grub settings should be for getting windows booted
[01:23] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, is it for WPA as well as WEP wifi passwords? would just be good to narrow it down, also lsusb to get the device id and other info and Google about the particular issue (ubuntu version+device+problem)
[01:24] <squinty> http://www.noobslab.com/2014/08/useful-panel-indicators-collection-for.html
[01:24] <alex> Windows is not on the list .. only Cinnamon and Studio
[01:24] <BigBawb> wafflej0ck: Good thinking friend
[01:24] <BigBawb> Let me try
[01:25] <danishanish> hey guys, would you recommend python or shell when
[01:26] <rypervenche> danishanish: When what? :)
[01:28] <wafflej0ck> alex k you can try, sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX, where /dev/sdX is the target partition you can use lsblk to see all the mounted partitions and their mount points
[01:30] <Stmeter> daftykins: I hate to keep beating a dead horse here, but it works with a fresh centos install.
[01:30] <Stmeter> So I guess I'll be using that :/
[01:31] <wafflej0ck> alex if you see that it saw the windows partition then just, sudo update-grub, and after it's done give it a reboot, if you don't see windows in there (can output what it did from the grub configuration with, cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg)
[01:33] <wafflej0ck> alex in the case it doesn't find it you can manually make the entry, cd /etc/grub and check the README there cat README you can see how the files work there but let me know if the grub-install doesn't work out
[01:34] <nmatrix9> How is everyone this New Years?
[01:35] <wafflej0ck> nmatrix9, good but for general chat join #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is just for support questions and answers, hope you're having a good New Years too though
[01:35] <jonascj> wafflej0ck: ah okay, I just searched for "ubuntu temperature monitor" and one suggestion was the "sensors-applet" which they say I can add to my "panel" by right clicking it
[01:36] <wafflej0ck> jonascj, yeah probably old instructions for Gnome 2 or maybe KDE instructions not sure
[01:36] <wafflej0ck> jonascj, make sure you search for the particular version you're on since the desktop environment has evolved over time
[01:37] <wafflej0ck> jonascj, personally I use Ubuntu Gnome edition that uses Gnome 3 and I use Conky to have some stats but I don't have temperature stuff in there (think it's possible though)
[01:38] <squinty> jonascj:  http://www.noobslab.com/2014/08/useful-panel-indicators-collection-for.html
[01:39] <wafflej0ck> squinty, wow nice list
[01:40] <wafflej0ck> squinty, too bad so many PPAs but nice that all that is available didn't realize all that stuff worked in Unity too
[01:41] <cogito> Hi, Is this the right channel for help related to a boot problem?
[01:42] <wafflej0ck> cogito, if you're running ubuntu then yeah probably
[01:42] <cogito> Excellent. Thanks.
[01:42] <squinty> wafflej0ck:  I just googled "how to install applets in ubuntu 14.04" and restricted the search to the last year.  lots of hits returned fwiw
[01:43] <wafflej0ck> squinty, yeah I only used Unity shortly before deciding to try out KDE and have since moved to Gnome 3 but good to know
[01:46] <cogito> I  have -- had -- a fully working dual boot (Ubuntu14.10 + Windows8) on my Acer Aspire S7 -- which was a little tricky to set up thanks to UEFI and RAID. However, I was messing with the bootloader, and stupidly ran `dmraid -dE` and now all has gone to hell.
[01:47] <cogito> I followed several guides to try to recover, but right now I have a non booting system, the partition tables are messed up, and I'm unable to unwind my way out of this.
[01:48] <cogito> On the plus side, I seem to be able to view all my files through Nautilus. Is there hope for me, or do I have to format and start over?
[01:49] <daftykins> i think i can guess which'd be quicker
[01:49] <daftykins> you hould backup now regardless
[01:49] <wafflej0ck> cogito, sorry no experience with dmraid directly but yeah think backup of data and restart with the Linux/bootloader config sounds easier than fixing it as is
[01:49] <cogito> I have backed up my important files
[01:50] <cogito> When you say "restart with the Linux/bootloader config", do you mean reformat and reinstall?
[01:51] <traekili> cogito, does your system have the option to boot in legacy mode within your BIOS options?
[01:51] <cogito> Yes, it has that option
[01:51] <traekili> after starting over it would be an idea to do that
[01:51] <traekili> on next install
[01:51] <daftykins> that's rubbish, legacy won't make any of that easier
[01:51] <traekili> he said it was no easy task to set up with uefi
[01:52] <traekili> legacy disables that
[01:52] <copsman> traekili: bull. Uefi is easy
[01:52] <daftykins> unlikely claim
[01:52] <traekili> is this ubuntu or a shouting match...
[01:52] <traekili> lol
[01:52] <traekili> chill guys
[01:52] <daftykins> shying away from doing things right doesn't make it easier
[01:53] <daftykins> traekili: no idea what you're talking about
[01:53] <traekili> i know i just thought id add the option in case that would indeed be his last option
[01:53] <traekili> 'bull' and 'rubbish' is not the language  i expected here.
[01:53] <traekili> i dont mind being wrong.
[01:53] <copsman> Uefi is easy traekili
[01:53] <traekili> to me it is
[01:53] <traekili> as well
[01:54] <Sveta> I am yet to see a shouting match hehe :)
[01:54] <copsman> Sveta: You won't
[01:55] <daftykins> lets get back on topic
[02:00] <ratsbag> Y
[02:01] <Sveta> can I help you ratsbag
[02:01] <BigBawb> Hi there, Im back. I can confirm the problem is with all password types
[02:02] <BigBawb> I tried wep wpa and wpa2 none work. Unsecuring the network it will work just fine
[02:03] <Dylan_> I'm trying to run Rosetta Stone using Virtualbox (Guest Windows XP 32 Bit). Running Ubuntu 14.04. I am using a headset for sound. As far as I can tell, my microphone is functioning correctly but I am not able to hear sound. Is anyone familiar enough with Virtualbox to help?
[02:03] <ratsbag> BigBawb: You know your password and type of e
[02:05] <Dylan_> Nada?
[02:05] <BigBawb> ratsbag: yes
[02:05] <SchrodingersScat> Dylan_: can try changing the sound device for the machine in the virtualbox settings
[02:05] <BigBawb> Im currently on my laptop about 3 feet from my desktop
[02:05] <Sveta> Dylan_: try to run something simpler that makes sounds, to rule out bugs in rosetta stone
[02:05] <BigBawb> changed to all different types of passwords the only connection I got was unsecured
[02:06] <Sveta> ratsbag: please stop messaging me with rude insults, thanks
[02:06] <Dylan_> Schrodinger: I'll try that as soon as I try Sveta's advice.
[02:07] <daftykins> Sveta: report any user in #ubuntu-ops please
[02:07] <Sveta> yup
[02:07] <Dylan_> Doh.  I didn't have my Ubuntu audio settings right.
[02:07] <Sveta> yay :)
[02:07] <raveenz> Dylan_: did you install virtualbox guest additions too?
[02:07] <ratsbag> BigBawb: when encryption is on can your WiFi device locate your router.
[02:09] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, you check out lsusb and lsb_release info
[02:10] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, if it's a USB wifi adapter if it's built in use lspci to see the device info
[02:10] <ian__> How can I identify whether TRIM is enabled on my SSD?
[02:11] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, I've had some issues with USB ones using ndiswrapper with WPA2 encryption but it worked for other types of encryption but might be something specific to the drivers you're using perhaps can find an alternative or something
[02:11] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" while trying to connect and pastebin the output
[02:12] <wafflej0ck> ian__, SO has a post that seems to cover it http://askubuntu.com/questions/443761/how-is-trim-enabled
[02:12] <wafflej0ck> er askubuntu I guess :|
[02:13] <bubbasaures> ian__, trim is in 14.04 already but there are a number of tweaks and a million links saying more or less the same.
[02:14] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: kk its gonna take me a minute cuz I gotta switch between pcs
[02:14] <ian__> wafflej0ck, bubbasaures thanks for the help.  I see that /etc/cron.weekly has a file "fstrim" that runs the trim command so I think I'm good right?
[02:14] <BigBawb> Im also using ndiswrapper if that helps
[02:15] <BigBawb> I read during the whole tutorial I went through that people had password issues but the solutions suggested arent working
[02:15] <BigBawb> brb
[02:15] <wafflej0ck> ian__, yeah if it's a supported drive should be all good and if not you probably don't want to run it
[02:15] <bubbasaures> ian__, depends on what you want, I forget how mine is set up to be honest.
[02:17] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: It doesn't seem to give any output
[02:17] <smokeyd> hey all. The ~/Music, ~/Documents, ~/Videos folders aren't in /etc/skel. So how do they get created when I add a user, and how do I change it (substitute with a symlink for instance). I don't want to manually do it per user but do it in the default location like with /etc/skel
[02:19] <gr33n7007h> hmm... strange
[02:19] <chaotix> hey..  are unity lenses being phased out?  There dont seem to be any in the software center in 14.10, so i was just wondering..
[02:19] <Fuchs> smokeyd: .config/user-dirs.dirs
[02:20] <Fuchs> smokeyd: responsible for creating them is the desktop environment you are using
[02:20] <Fuchs> smokeyd: it's a freedesktop thingie
[02:21] <smokeyd> Fuchs, ok. And what if I want to add files to that folder when a user get's created. Like have a default "Documents" folders with a few files in it, but each user does have his/her own folder? That is not possible?
[02:21] <smokeyd> It really is too bad that the desktop environment doesn't just use /etc/skel
[02:22] <Fuchs> smokeyd: it technically is, you could have that created via skel, and then have the file I mentioned before point at it
[02:22] <Fuchs> smokeyd: the desktop environment shouldn't overwrite it if it already does exist
[02:22] <smokeyd> Fuchs: ah, ok
[02:22] <smokeyd> Good point
[02:22] <smokeyd> so I could create it there
[02:22] <smokeyd> thanks
[02:22] <smokeyd> that is a good idea actually
[02:22] <Fuchs> smokeyd: so the only thing you need to do is have that folder created with whatever means you wish (skel, as an example) and then make sure that the XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR (as an example) points to it
[02:22] <Fuchs> smokeyd: you're welcome :)
[02:22] <BigBawb> oops found it
[02:23] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: I looked in the wrong place I apologize
[02:23] <BigBawb> Im new to linux... havent even managed a web connection Im looking through now
[02:23] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, just out of curiousity why you using ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <xangua> chaotix: don't really know about the lenses, but there are a Lot of scopes and half of them I don't even use
[02:26] <devildog31415> can someone point me in the right direction (advise or different channel if necessary) rcv'ing "aborted (core dump)" everytime I  try and save a spreadsheet calculator file (sc command).  don't know how to troubleshoot
[02:26] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: I might not have a good reason at all
[02:26] <bparker> when I try to switch users under the desktop on 14.04, it asks me for a password, but /var/log/auth.log tells me it's trying to login as user 'lightdm' and not the user I'm trying to switch to. Any idea how to fix?
[02:26] <BigBawb> But from what I read the specific adapter I have needs to use it
[02:26] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, is it internal or usb?
[02:27] <bparker> so basically I cannot switch users, ever
[02:27] <BigBawb> usb
[02:27] <BigBawb> I tried first with the b43 thing
[02:27] <chaotix> xangua, i was just curious...  i am going to start using the dash more...  i mostly use synapse and classicmenu-indicator, but i am going to try to go without them for a little while
[02:27] <bparker> and now it's even locked me out of the original user's desktop
[02:27] <BigBawb> but I saw a few posts who said this specific one I have (linksys AE2500) said that ndiswrapper was the solution
[02:28] <BigBawb> followed the instructions and bam it springs to life
[02:28] <BigBawb> Im getting that pastebin right now
[02:29] <gr33n7007h> kk
[02:29] <devildog31415> what is the right channel for a core dump issue?
[02:30] <baos_> have a strange firewall issue where I suddenly can't connect to github.com.  I didn't touch any firewall settings.
[02:30] <baos_> can't get a ping response
[02:30] <baos_> other computer on the same network has no issues.
[02:31] <bparker> baos_: pastebin iptables -nvL
[02:34] <baos_> http://pastebin.com/9ukewJA0
[02:34] <baos_> it's rather empty
[02:34] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: http://hastebin.com/orerabavow.xml
[02:35] <daftykins> baos_: can you ping your router?
[02:35] <bparker> baos_: can you pate output of 'ifconfig'
[02:35] <bparker> paste*
[02:35] <daftykins> nm
[02:35]  * daftykins leaves it to bparker
[02:35] <baos_> I can ping my router just fine and am online on the computer in question talking to you
[02:36] <baos_> http://pastebin.com/crwjteWi
[02:36] <terratoma> i blew away /boot/grub/grub.conf . what do i do ?
[02:36] <EriC^^> terratoma: sudo update-grub
[02:36] <bparker> terratoma: update-grub
[02:37] <terratoma> thanks
[02:37] <baos_> the gfs computer on the same network has no issues, so it leaves me to ponder whats wrong with this linux.
[02:37] <bparker> I'm assuming your router isn't doing anything special with that computer
[02:37] <CyberAce> HNY guys. =)
[02:37] <baos_> not at all.
[02:38] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, nm-tool | grep -A5 "wlan0"
[02:38] <CyberAce> Whats your IP address?
[02:38] <terratoma> grub.conf didnt get recreated.  maybe its not needed ?
[02:38] <EriC^^> terratoma: it's grub.cfg
[02:38] <wafflej0ck> baos_, you try it by IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:39] <baos_> From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
[02:40] <bparker> baos_: traceroute github.com
[02:40] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: along the lines of type:xx.xx. wifi Driver:ndiswrapper State:Disconnected Default: No HWAdress:xxx.xx.xxx
[02:40] <baos_> now the traceroute is interesting.
[02:41] <gr33n7007h> Which guide did you follow this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?
[02:41] <baos_> http://pastebin.com/RxGdMUku
[02:41] <daftykins> baos_: 10.2? but your network is 1.x
[02:41] <bparker> baos_: what is <IP_ADDRESS> since your ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:42] <bparker> and can you paste "ip route"
[02:43] <baos_> to the best of my knowledge, not an ip on my network.
[02:43] <bparker> daftykins: could be a broken router that responds to traceroute with exterior ip
[02:44] <bparker> you'd have to look at tcpdump of the response to see what MAC address it's from, and check interior IP that way
[02:44] <baos_> hmm, shall I try reconnecting?
[02:44] <bparker> baos_: can you paste 'ip route'
[02:44] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: for installing ndiswrapper or installing the driver?
[02:44] <bparker> if nothing is strange in dmesg, could just try rebooting.
[02:45] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, both
[02:46] <cryptodan> BigBawb: what wireless card do you have as it should have default kernel support
[02:46] <baos_> <IP_ADDRESS>/8 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS>  metric 1
[02:46] <baos_> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:46] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: I believe the ndiswrapper was from the site you suggested there
[02:46] <bparker> uhhhh there's your problem
[02:46] <BigBawb> but I had to do offline instructions
[02:46] <bparker> baos_: ip r d <IP_ADDRESS>/8
[02:46] <bparker> fixed.
[02:46] <BigBawb> as for the linksys driver I had trouble but found the solution here
[02:47] <BigBawb> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805830&page=13&p=12623937#post12623937
[02:47] <baos_> 64 bytes from github.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=234 ms
[02:47] <bparker> yup
[02:47] <cryptodan> BigBawb: can you do an lspci and lsusb and dpaste.com the results
[02:47] <baos_> hmm, so.  what exactly happened?
[02:47] <daftykins> hmm funky phantom routes
[02:48] <BigBawb> cryptodan: Sure
[02:48] <BigBawb> one sec
[02:48] <BigBawb> If you're late to my issue its only with a password
[02:48] <bparker> baos_: you had a static route set that forced all connections to IP's starting with 192.x.x.x (including github) to be routed to some random IP that your computer has no idea how to reach.
[02:48] <baos_> very strange.
[02:48] <baos_> glad it's not some kind of malware or virus
[02:49] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: I had to edit the .inf as shown in step 4 of that guide and thats what finally got it working
[02:49] <baos_> thankyou very much for the help
[02:49] <BigBawb> but as you see he says he had password issues that were solved by simply changing the password. Not for me, only removing it
[02:49] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, That's an XP driver, I don't think it's possible to connect to WPA with that driver have you tried using win7/8 driver?
[02:50] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: Will win7 and 8 drivers work with ndiswrapper?
[02:50] <baos_> I'll have to take another look at the routers to see where it could have come from
[02:50] <cryptodan> question is why are you not using the kernel drivers for your card?
[02:51] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, should do
[02:51] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: Alrighty Ill try
[02:52] <baos_> going to reboot to see if it comes back.  thankyou very much for your assistance bparker
[02:52] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, good luck or just buy a cheap wireless usb stick with supported drivers for ubuntu realtek/ralink/atheros
[02:53] <cryptodan> dont forget intel
[02:53] <daftykins> intel went really bad.
[02:53] <daftykins> and in USB? nope
[02:53] <cryptodan> BigBawb: have ya done the lspci / lsusb
[02:54] <cryptodan> I have and will always use Intel Wireless NIC's in my lap tops
[02:54] <BigBawb> yes I just have to switch a flash drive back and forth
[02:54] <BigBawb> I dont think I have a wireless card
[02:55] <wafflej0ck> BigBawb, no ethernet you can use in the meanwhile to be on the machine you're debugging and in the chat? would probably make it easier
[02:56] <daftykins> cryptodan: you know they went crap though right? 7xxx series specifically i think
[02:56] <BigBawb> wafflej0ck: This is as close as it gets short of moving my giant desktop around
[02:56] <BigBawb> which is less practical
[02:56] <BigBawb> I got it
[02:57] <cryptodan> Wireless AC is a new protocol so yeah I would expect companies to have issues with that
[02:57] <BigBawb> cryptodan: http://hastebin.com/ijatisuwoh.vhdl
[02:58] <smokeyd> is there a way to run a script for a new user upon first login? I would like to setup some things for a new user that aren't possible with just placing the correct files in /etc/skel
[02:58] <daftykins> cryptodan: no, not even anything to do with ac.
[02:59] <cryptodan> I would imagine that to be so
[02:59] <gr33n7007h> I only use ALFA wireless usb dongles though rather expensive but the best of the best :)
[02:59] <BigBawb> gr33n7007h: trying to install the win7 one errored "Cannot find Module: Cisco"
[02:59] <BigBawb> yeah this is just one I use for windows
[02:59] <BigBawb> I wanted to dual boot but its not turning out so great
[03:01] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, I'd scrap ndiswrapper altogether and get a usb nic thats actually works on win/buntu
[03:02] <xangua> BigBawb: with ndiswrapper you need the windows xp drivers, as far as I know
[03:02] <BigBawb> xangua: Yeah thats what I got, the problem is using a password
[03:02] <BigBawb> But it looks like RIP not spending any money
[03:03] <baos> It wasn't the router.  it was something left behind in the wired network settings.  There was no mention of the ip in any tab I could find in the profile.  But a removal of the profile and creation of a new one, the ghost network disappeared.
[03:04] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, is your encryption WPA?
[03:04] <gansteed> how can i creating data structure diagrams in Ubuntu? is there any apps for it?
[03:06] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, have you tried putting your wpa password in as hex instead of ascii?
[03:06] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, there are quite a few apps for diagrams but depends on your exact needs, you may want to check out Dia or Draw in LibreOffice
[03:06] <cryptodan> BigBawb: if this is a desktop here is a card I Would recommend http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106135
[03:06] <gr33n7007h> because xp drivers are old as hell
[03:06] <cryptodan> XP Supports WPA
[03:06] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, if you're doing schema stuff and using MySQL the MySQL workbench is pretty nice and can forward engineer/reverse engineer to/from a diagram/DB
[03:08] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, LibreOffice Draw is nice for more visual stuff but with Dia there are also scripts to export to actual code from the diagrams which can be nice
[03:08] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, i want to represent a tree (data structure)
[03:09] <frankd> is there a replacement for scsi_id in ubuntu 14? or am i somehow missing a package?
[03:09] <frankd> i thought it was part of udev
[03:09] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, yeah really still not sure what the end result is you're looking for, perhaps you just want something like View Your Mind which is like a "tree" mind mapper, what's the goal?
[03:11] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, i wanna draw a diagram like this one: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Trie_example.svg/250px-Trie_example.svg.png
[03:12] <bufferloss> how do I swap capslock in unity?
[03:14] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, i've found this one, http://www.graphviz.org/
[03:14] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, yeah was just looking at that too, looking for a GUI for it but not sure that one exists aside from this KDE based one for viewing
[03:16] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, :D
[03:17] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, looks pretty easy to use though really
[03:19] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, yeah, i'm looking for a tutorial
[03:20] <wafflej0ck> yeah would be nice if there was something like ReText (markdown editor with live preview) for this so you can just see the output in a GUI... I need to learn to write desktop GUI apps and not complain though I suppose
[03:20] <BigBawb> anyone got a good usb wifi adapter they could suggest?
[03:20] <BigBawb> cheap and one that works
[03:21] <bubbasaures> BigBawb, amazon...etc have gobs listed as linux and ubuntu friendly cheap.
[03:23] <gansteed> wafflej0ck, nothing, graphviz is easy enough
[03:23] <gansteed> live preview is not necessary for me
[03:25] <jrg> heh. i give up on ubuntu on this tf101
[03:25] <wafflej0ck> gansteed, yeah looks like the definition is simple enough to not mess it up in most cases but I like GUIs :D this should do the trick though, so happy diagramming
[03:25] <gansteed> :D
[03:25] <jrg> anybody know of a good arm based laptop that ubuntu can actually run on without issue?
[03:26] <gr33n7007h> BigBawb, How much you willing to spend?
[03:26] <wafflej0ck> jrg, hmm think getting the packages all compiled for ARM that you'd want is the issue no? why the requirement for ARM architecture?
[03:27] <bparker> how do you install 14.04 on a laptop when it's running on battery? the installer refuses to continue and I cannot plug it in.
[03:27] <jrg> fanless and lasts longer than any x86 i know of
[03:27] <bparker> jrg: anything that runs android or chromeos will run ubuntu
[03:27] <bparker> they're all using Linux anyway
[03:27] <bparker> and same drivers
[03:28] <wafflej0ck> jrg, yeah not sure, was looking at some PBX systems but they were ARM based and saw it was hard to find some packages compiled for ARM processors and didn't want to fight it myself so didn't get it
[03:28] <jrg> bparker: doesn't seem to be the case with the tf101 ;)
[03:28] <jrg> but then again the tf101 was crap with android on it as well
[03:28] <jrg> not to mention there seems to always be closed blobs
[03:28] <jrg> especially when it comes to gps, cams, sensors, etc
[03:28] <jrg> so you always wind up with something not working
[03:29] <jrg> i was hoping to find something actually designed for it
[03:29] <wafflej0ck> jrg, yeah driver blobs :( unfortunately hardware manufacturers aren't the best about providing source or any info so things have to be reverse engineered
[03:30] <wafflej0ck> oh yeah it was the pro version of the fax extension module that didn't have ARM support... was trying to think because my RasPi runs FreePBX right now and is ARM based too
[03:31] <wafflej0ck> yeah so it's doable they had debian wheezy I think to make the RasPi raspbian images but I haven't tried a DIY approach to that was just flashing images
[03:33] <jrg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCUoxGTLgbE
[03:33] <jrg> i wonder if that works
[03:33] <jrg> i'm sure google probably found a way for that to not work nowadays
[03:33] <jrg> heh
[03:33] <jrg> oh that's kind of a totally lame way to do it
[03:34] <jrg> i wodner if you have to start chromeos and start it from the term all the time or if there is a way to start it by default
[03:35] <wafflej0ck> sorry for the ot but will leave it at this, downloaded ChromeOS to test it out the other day only to find I had downloaded a very large copy of Chrome :)
[03:35] <xangua> why not a 'regular' laptop? jrg
[03:36] <jrg> xangua: as i said earlier
[03:37] <jrg> i want fanless arm for no fan + battery longevity
[03:37] <jrg> "always on" would be neat too
[03:37] <jrg> vs suspend/hibernate usually used by x86 methods
[03:38] <jrg> too bad it is impossible to install ubuntu on a surface rt
[03:38] <jrg> that thing would be awesome to have ubuntu on
[03:38] <jrg> especially since windows rt was just so.... horrible
[03:39] <daftykins> bit off topic there, jrg
[03:42] <jrg> daftykins: well... it had GREAT battery life and the type version keyboard cover was great... the OS was just horrible. i wished i could install ubuntu or some other linux on it heh
[03:42] <SchrodingersScat> !ot
[03:42] <jrg> and i mean i don't hate windows for the sake of hating windows but omg. i hope they fired the entire division that came up with that 8/8.1
[03:42] <daftykins> jrg: yeah, still off topic. take it to the above channel please.
[04:08] <C1V0> Does Github Pages have built-in support for handlebars templates? If not is there a config or directive I can set that'll load handlebars?
[04:08] <gry> ask #github or their support email
[04:09] <C1V0> Oops. Wrong tab! Sorry.
[04:09] <gry> that's alright
[04:09] <Flynn|> Happy new Year :)
[04:09] <gry> likewise; enjoy
[04:24] <clumsy_bot> Is there a manual method for creating a LiveUSB whilst still being able to utilise any leftover space on the drive?
[04:25] <clumsy_bot> I found some old Ubuntu docs that seem to suggest you can create a #1 storage partition and then a #2 partition just large enough to hold the contents for LiveUSB.
[04:26] <daftykins> !persistence
[04:26] <daftykins> clumsy_bot: that one? ;) i would think persistence comes after the live boot image
[04:26] <Bashing-om> clumsy_bot: Persistence ? see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent .
[04:26] <clumsy_bot> Not persistence.
[04:26] <daftykins> oh sorry just for other space
[04:27] <daftykins> yeah swap it, live image at the start... storage after
[04:27] <daftykins> simples.
[04:27] <clumsy_bot> So do I dd the secondary partition on the said drive?
[04:27] <clumsy_bot> Or it is preferable to use cp instead of dd?
[04:30] <jaddison> Why do I get this error when I do apt-get update? "E: Method gave invalid 103 Redirect message
[04:30] <jaddison> It "breaks" aptitude too.
[04:31] <jaddison> (ie. a big red box shows up)
[04:36] <tekkbuzz> jaddison: are you using sudo?
[04:37] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ah the temporary use of an admin account
[04:40] <tekkbuzz> jaddison: looks like a sources.list mirror problem.
[04:47] <frankd> yurgh
[04:47] <frankd> how do i get multipath iSCSI working right?
[04:48] <frankd> http://pastebin.com/gCyiy09m
[04:49] <frankd> it looks like its just working in failover mode instead of striping
[04:49] <frankd> only one ethernet interface sees traffic
[05:00] <bparker> how in the **** do you change the mirror used during install
[05:02] <EriC^^> bparker: what for
[05:02] <EriC^^> bparker: i suppose if you choose a different timezone it will pick a different mirror
[05:03] <bparker> EriC^^: because the mirror it uses doesn't work
[05:03] <bparker> or if it does, it's so slow that it's pointless
[05:03] <bparker> it never asks me for a timezone
[05:03] <EriC^^> which country are you from
[05:03] <bparker> it seems to pick the mirror from the language you choose
[05:03] <EriC^^> bparker: sure it does
[05:03] <EriC^^> no
[05:03] <bparker> I'm in USA but the language is set to Japanese
[05:04] <bparker> so it tries to use mirror in japan and the install will never finish
[05:04] <EriC^^> not really
[05:04] <bparker> what do you mean not really
[05:04] <EriC^^> i mean it doesnt use that for the mirror
[05:05] <bparker> I guess the installer telling me that it uses "ja.archive.ubuntu.com" and netstat/tcpdump/etc. confirming that it's going to japan... is all a lie then?
[05:05] <EriC^^> yes
[05:05] <bparker> um no
[05:06] <bparker> I can clearly see that it's trying to download packages from a mirror in japan
[05:07] <EriC^^> clearly not
[05:07] <bparker> clearly so
[05:07] <EriC^^> it's jp.archive
[05:07] <bparker> ......
[05:07] <bparker> dude, what the fuck ever
[05:07] <bparker> it's not in the US, that's all that matters
[05:07] <EriC^^> i'm saying your lying
[05:07] <bparker> I can't believe you're hung up on a single letter typo that doesn't matter
[05:07] <EriC^^> it's not using your keyboard layout for the mirror
[05:07] <bparker> fine, it's jp.archive
[05:07] <EriC^^> whatever
[05:07] <bparker> EriC^^: yes I know this
[05:08] <bparker> it's using the UI language I selected at the beginning of the installer
[05:08] <EriC^^> it uses your timezone
[05:08] <bparker> I never set a timezone.
[05:08] <bparker> it never asked
[05:08] <bparker> so that's wrong
[05:08] <EriC^^> which ubuntu are you installing
[05:08] <bparker> 14.04 desktop
[05:08]  * EriC^^ humors you
[05:08] <EriC^^> ubuntu?
[05:09] <bparker> yes
[05:09] <bparker> I'm in #ubuntu aren't I
[05:09] <EriC^^> i meant lubuntu or...?
[05:09]  * bparker waits for 'no'
[05:09] <bparker> ubuntu
[05:09] <EriC^^> ok.
[05:09] <bparker> regular ubuntu
[05:09] <EriC^^> you never get a globe picture
[05:09] <bparker> no
[05:09] <EriC^^> where you select your timezone
[05:09] <bparker> negative
[05:09] <EriC^^> which iso did you download
[05:10] <bparker> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:12] <EriC^^> do you have a eye sight condition?
[05:12] <bparker> no?
[05:15] <EriC^^> bparker: it should be there
[05:17] <bparker> EriC^^: what should
[05:18] <EriC^^> http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Select-Installation-Timezone.jpeg
[05:21] <EriC^^> bparker: ring any bells?
[05:30] <bparker> EriC^^: that was never there during the install
[05:30] <bparker> I see it when trying to change the time zone after an install though
[05:30] <lickalott> gents, when I run a showmount -a I see mounts to my server from an internal class C address that doesn't currently exist on my network.  <-- that's 1.
[05:32] <lickalott> #2 is; I had to rebuild my windows box (reload OS) and now I can't access the NFS mounts from my ubuntu server without changing permissions for the world to 5.  it wasn't like this before the rebuild.  I don't want to leave all that stuff open like that.  Any ideas?
[05:38] <Bender|> I know this ain't the place to ask such questions, but sometimes (yes sometimes), when I exit my application I get errors like XIO Fatal Error 11, Bad Window, and [xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue [xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called [xcb] Aborting, sorry about that. r3x_vm.out: ../../src/xcb_io.c:274: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' fa
[05:38] <Bender|> stuff like that.
[05:38] <Bender|> And yes, I'm running on ubuntu 14.04 lts
[05:38] <kuby64> same here
[05:39] <cfhowlett> Bender|> I know this ain't the place to ask such questions,  >>> then proceeds to ask anyway ...
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !server | lickalott, might ask the other channel
[05:41] <bparker> Bender|: do you call XInitThreads() before creating any windows?
[05:44] <lickalott> i'll try cfhowlett.  I've been in there in the past.  It seems to be a zombie channel.  Thanks though!
[05:44] <cfhowlett> lickalott, perhaps ##linux as well
[05:50] <michael__> hi
[05:50] <michael__> how can i download movie on ubuntu system
[05:51] <cfhowlett> michael__  legally?
[05:51] <Guest6480> how can i download movie on ubuntu?
[05:54] <kuby64> Guest6480> I do not know
[05:54] <kuby64> but from what i do know is that there is a site that i have found recently
[05:55] <lickalott> define "download movie"
[05:55] <LinuxGold> michael__: google search for it.
[05:55] <Seveas> Guest67293: wget http://url/to/movie.avi. Or with a browser (firefox comes by default, chromium is available)
[05:55] <cfhowlett> guest6480 go to www.archive.org        find a movie, dowload.  easy
[05:55] <kuby64> im not going to spoil it because i do not want to get banned or something
[05:55] <Seveas> kuby64: very good.
[05:55] <kuby64> thank you
[05:56] <Seveas> !warez
[05:56] <LinuxGold> wait, you can find it in /dev/null -- so many things in there.
[05:56] <kuby64> you think so, LinuxGold?
[05:56] <LinuxGold> why not? :D
[05:57] <lickalott> lol
[05:57] <LinuxGold> it's like a foundation of youth.
[05:58]  * LinuxGold gotta shut up and get back to subject.
[05:58] <kuby64> well, good luck with that
[06:02] <Guest35889> do you guys prefer panel on top of screen or bottom?
[06:03] <LinuxGold> I prefer CLI
[06:04] <cfhowlett> Guest35889, our preferences don't matter - set your system for YOU
[06:04] <kuby64> I would like to prefer both
[06:04] <kuby64> because it reminds me like a Nintendo DS
[06:05] <LinuxGold> Be a man, console all the way baby!
[06:05] <kuby64> yep
[06:05] <kuby64> :)
[06:20] <zero56> Is there any performance difference if i install ubuntu along side windows? or a partistion.
[06:20] <ram_> hi
[06:21] <cfhowlett> zero56, to install along side windows MEANS into a partition ... question is unclear
[06:21] <jamie_> hey can i ask y'all a question
[06:21] <glob> zero56: no it's the same
[06:21] <Seveas> cfhowlett: maybe he means in a VM?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !ask | jamie_,
[06:21] <Seveas> jamie_: sure!
[06:21] <Ameex> hi
[06:21] <Ameex> anyone there
[06:21] <zero56> ok
[06:21] <glob> zero56: he means the question in the installer
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !ask | Ameex,
[06:22] <zero56> Thanks
[06:22] <jamie_> im having a problem with java running when nothing is running on java at all at the time and running up my cpu temp
[06:22] <LinuxGold> "no question is a stupid question"
[06:22] <LinuxGold> :D
[06:22] <Seveas> jamie_: how do you know it's a java problem?
[06:24] <jamie_> Seveas: yes, i have checked with task manager, and for no apparent reason it starts to use 25% of my cpu, which for a i5 is unresonable
[06:24] <Seveas> jamie_: which java-based app is doing this?
[06:25] <jamie_> Seveas: it is not apparent, i am only running thunder bird, and firefox wed developer, and i only have bugzilla open
[06:26] <ram_> how to transfer files to a mobile device in ubuntu without using data cable
[06:27] <cfhowlett> ram_, mobile = android?  airdroid
[06:27] <ram_> androidd
[06:27] <jamie_> Seveas: in the task manager all it says is java, and im not sure if there is a way to track from there where it is being run
[06:31] <ram_> hw to get splashtop streamer free?
[06:32] <jamie_> ram_: have you tried team viewer?
[06:32] <Rijack> I'm having a problem where apt seems to be trusting everything regardless of authentication, how can I change this
[06:33] <cfhowlett> ram_, come on man.  A TINY bit of effort will answer most questions: http://www.splashtop.com/downloads
[06:36] <jamie_> Rijack: are you in superuser or root by any chance?
[06:36] <Rijack> no
[06:38] <jamie_> could you explain a little bit more in depth of what is happening?
[06:39] <jfr3> hey
[06:39] <jfr3> need help
[06:40] <jfr3> W:Failed to fetch http://debian.tagancha.org/debian/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  Undetermined Error
[06:40] <cfhowlett> jfr3, try a different mirro
[06:40] <Rijack> so I added a ppa from launchpad but forget to the key. then i went to install and it says the package cant be authenticated but continues to install like its no big deal
[06:40] <cfhowlett> *mirror
[06:41] <jfr3> how
[06:41] <Rijack> the only way i could stop it was to kill the task
[06:41] <jamie_> Rijack: take a look at this  https://lists.debian.org/deity/2014/05/msg00127.html
[06:44] <jfr3> so I ran apt-get update
[06:44] <jfr3> I get a whole bunch of errors
[06:44] <jfr3> root@FlashBox:~# apt-get update
[06:44] <jfr3> Ign http://debian.scribus.net trusty InRelease
[06:44] <jfr3> Ign http://debian.tagancha.org trusty InRelease
[06:44] <jfr3> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease
[06:44] <jfr3> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease
[06:44] <unopaste> jfr3 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:45] <jfr3>
[06:45] <jfr3> Err http://debian.scribus.net trusty/main i386 Packages
[06:46] <jfr3>
[06:46] <jfr3> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main i386 Packages
[06:46] <jfr3>
[06:46] <jfr3> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe i386 Packages
[06:46] <jfr3>
[06:46] <jfr3> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages
[06:46] <unopaste> jfr3 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:47] <jfr3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:47] <jfr3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:47] <blackyboy> I have a single network interface eth0, Now i have bridged to br0, We have two internet providers one ISP using modem IP <IP_ADDRESS> other ISP modem IP was <IP_ADDRESS> now when ever my internet goes down in any one of the ISP it was to access other one how can i configure ? DId i want to configure interface settings ?
[06:47] <jfr3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:47] <jfr3> my errors with apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:48] <jamie_> Rijack: did you make any changes to apt-utils at all?
[06:48] <Rijack> ok its doing that except with a binary
[06:48] <jfr3> any clues
[06:48] <Rijack> i dont know where to find apt utils
[06:49] <jamie_> Rijack: then that would be a no, what version are you using?
[06:49] <jfr3> I think I broke updates after installing kubuntu trusty 14.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:50] <Rijack> 14.10
[06:50] <jamie_> Rijack: same, I tried to do the same from what you said of downloading and installing a ppa: and it made me run it a sudo if it was not in SU mode in the terminal
[06:52] <Rijack> k i was running from software center  i will try in terminal
[06:53] <jamie_> let me try the software center to, if it happens on my end to a bug would need to be filed
[06:54] <jamie_> Rijack: what ppa: are you trying to install
[06:54] <jfr3> sribus
[06:54] <jfr3> scribus
[06:57] <jamie_> jfr3: what were you saying?
[06:57] <jfr3> my updates are not wroking
[06:57] <jfr3> working
[06:57] <jamie_> okay what is it saying? and what are you doing exactaly?
[06:57] <Rijack> Stefan Achatz from launchpad.  command line asked me to confirm the install, I would prefer it to return an error
[06:57] <jfr3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9658135/
[06:58] <Rijack> the gui just went straight ahead
[06:58] <jamie_> Rijack: one sec
[06:59] <jfr3> eading package lists... Done
[06:59] <jfr3> Building dependency tree
[06:59] <jfr3> Reading state information... Done
[06:59] <jfr3> E: Unable to locate package scribus
[06:59] <jamie_> jfr3: first off that is most of the ubuntu repositories to start with, second what type of machine are you on?
[06:59] <jfr3> sudo apt-get install scribus
[06:59] <Rijack> here the actual url: http://ppa.launchpad.net/berfenger/roccat/ubuntu
[06:59] <jfr3> kubuntu running trusty 14.04
[07:00] <jamie_> jfr3: one sec
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !ppa | jfr3
[07:01] <jamie_> Rijack: are you doing it via a downloaded file of bz2 or gz?
[07:03] <jamie_> Rijack: is it libgaminggear?
[07:03] <jamie_> jef3: what type of computer do you have?
[07:04] <Rijack> no I added it to my sources and the used SC, and it is roccat-tools which depends on libgaminggear
[07:05] <jamie_> Rijack: when you went to add the source did it require the password?
[07:05] <Rijack> yes
[07:06] <jamie_> Okay, odd request, try to add a seperate ppa: via terminal?
[07:08] <jamie_> Rijack: try this one and tell me what it does without using sudo
[07:09] <jfr3> running Linux FlashBox 3.13.0-39-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 28 13:31:23 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:10] <jfr3> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[07:10] <jamie_> i mean the actuall computer itself
[07:10] <jfr3> lenovo sl500 thinkpad
[07:11] <jfr3> running over wifi
[07:11] <sonicfan4562> hi
[07:13] <Rijack> jamie it returns "Error: must run as root"
[07:14] <jfr3> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> Hello, I've a bit of an issue
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> running kubuntu 14.10
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> Mouse doesn't work
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> can move it
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> Will sometimes click on things
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> other times won't
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> won't click outside of active apps
[07:15] <jamie_> Rijack: okay, then it is due to that you added it to the sources list probably, some of the ppa: if its on the source list i may not ask from my expirience. I would recomend doing your usual and if it ever happens again file a bug report
[07:15] <whatisthisissue0> will only selectively click on things in browser
[07:16] <soee> whatisthisissue0: please try to write in 1-2 lines :)
[07:16] <whatisthisissue0> I am sorry!
[07:16] <whatisthisissue0> It should be told that I am new at linux
[07:17] <Mathis> hey
[07:17] <jfr3> hey jamie, looks like I entered right in the middle of you other discussion
[07:17] <jamie_> Rijack: **may not ask from my expiriences with 10 through 14.2
[07:17] <jamie_> jfr3: im good at multi tasking
[07:17] <jfr3> cool
[07:18] <Mathis> is there any way to put all currently available updates on a USB thumbdrive and install them unattended on a client having no network connection?
[07:18] <jamie_> jfr3: your computer probably cant handle that, it is a highes origional of vista for the newest one that was made
[07:18] <Rijack> where would i go if i want to see the trust settings. i assumed it was similar to pacman but i couldnt find a apt.conf or anything
[07:19] <jfr3> I have vista sticker on the laptop chassis
[07:19] <jamie_> Rijack: one sec let me doubble check before I give you an answer
[07:20] <jamie_> yea, i couldnt even get a vista based computer to run lubuntu 12.04 and that is a lot more light weight than kubuntu
[07:20] <whatisthisissue0> Does anyone know when a new update will be available?
[07:23] <jamie_> whatisthisissue0: so your mouse is being fuzzy? not working properly?
[07:23] <whatisthisissue0> I can move it around, it will work selectively in active apps. Computer won't register clicks, and will sometimes be stuck on right click or something to that effect.
[07:24] <whatisthisissue0> I tried switching drivers, updating drivers, running xev.
[07:24] <whatisthisissue0> This is not a hardware issue, as far as I'm aware. I'm like 90% sure.
[07:25] <traekili> it is
[07:25] <whatisthisissue0> How could I test this?
[07:26] <jamie_> take it and try it on another computer?
[07:26] <whatisthisissue0> The keyboard?
[07:26] <whatisthisissue0> I don't have a mouse, I use my touchpad/laptop clicker things
[07:27] <we6jbo> Hi
[07:27] <we6jbo> I have a question
[07:27] <jamie_> well it could be anything from a lose connection to something stuck under the actuall butto
[07:27] <whatisthisissue0> All three? The top buttons/touchpad and bottom buttons? Lenovo W510
[07:28] <jamie_> one sec let me do a search
[07:28] <jamie_> Rijack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt
[07:28] <whatisthisissue0> Kk
[07:28] <jamie_> Rijack: check that out, see if that helps
[07:28] <Rijack> k thx
[07:29] <we6jbo> I have a question
[07:29] <Poss_> Hi there, just wondering if there is anyway to figure out which applications are taking up Vram?
[07:29] <traekili> top Poss_
[07:30] <Poss_> oh sorry wrong acronym,  i meant video ram rather than virtual ram
[07:30] <jamie_> whatisthisissue0: what operating system did it have origionaly?
[07:31] <traekili> same applies, just top Poss_
[07:31] <whatisthisissue0> jamie_: Windows 7
[07:31] <whatisthisissue0> jame_: I think, I inherited it with Debian on it
[07:32] <jamie_> whatisthisissue0: you need to get a shorter name.....
[07:33] <jamie_> whatisthisissue0: okay, one other question, somewhere on that computer it should tell you what processor it has in it?
[07:34] <Poss_> thanks traekill, but i don't see anything relating to graphics card usage there or in the manual
[07:35] <Poss_> i am on ubuntu-gnome 14.04 using nvidia 346.22 and i am currently using 79% of my GTX570 with nothing running.
[07:35] <jamie_> Poss_: are you trying to see what is running the most % or just general percent used on average?
[07:36] <kylie667> intel core vpro i7-720QM
[07:36] <jamie_> Poss_: dissregard last message, if you want to see what is running  in % or your cpu power, use the application of task manager
[07:36] <jamie_> kylie667: did you change your name?
[07:37] <kylie667> jamie_: Yes
[07:37] <Poss_> jamie_  I'd like to see a run down of how much of my graphics card's dedicated memory is being used by each application.  Nvidia settings displays the total percentage use, but it doesn't break it down by application.
[07:37] <jamie_> kylie667: thanks, sorry that was getting hard to type
[07:38] <Poss_> top breaks down the memory and cpu usage of each application, but not the graphics card memory usage.
[07:38] <jamie_> Poss_: have you google it by any chance?
[07:38] <jamie_> okay one sec y'all I'll be right back need to do something
[07:38] <kylie667> jamie_: No obligation to us, you're a superhero
[07:39] <jamie_> kylie66: what lol??
[07:40] <Poss_> indeed I have jamie_ as far as i can tell there are very limited graphics card monitoring software on linux in general. there are things like im-sensors, but that again tells me total usage statistics and temperatures,  which gives me no more information than nvidia settings
[07:40] <kylie667> jamie_: You've no obligation to do this,  yet you still do! That is superhero patience and kidness.
[07:40] <jamie_> I love computers, and i have been using ubuntu since 9
[07:47] <jamie_> kylie667: do you have both a track point and touchpad?
[07:48] <kylie667> Yes
[07:48] <jamie_> Rijack: did that answer you question?
[07:48] <jamie_> kylie667: do both of them have the same problem?
[07:49] <kylie667> Yes
[07:49] <jamie_> kylie667: are you currently on it?
[07:50] <kylie667> jamie_: http://tinyurl.com/nbpm4vz and yes I am on stupid laptop
[07:51] <jamie_> Poss_: are you talking about the Nvidia x server?
[07:53] <Poss_> nvidia-settings is the application I'm referencing
[07:54] <jamie_> jfr3: some computers cant handle some of the actual drivers in the newer versions of the ubuntu distros, try using an older version of kubuntu if that is the one you are wanting to use, if not try lubuntu 12.04 or 10.04 i know for a fact it will run lubuntu 10.04
[07:57] <jamie_> Poss_: find somting called Nvidia x server settings and look through that and see if there is a monitor in there
[07:57] <jamie_> kylie667: one sec im still doing some research on the laptop
[07:58] <kylie667> jamie_: It's okay, I'm just happy that you're helping. I'm doing some crazy Googling atm as well
[07:58] <jamie_> kylie667: consulting the all mighty guru of google!!!
[07:59] <kylie667> jamie_: check it out https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/W-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/W510-Trackpoint-and-TouchPad-problems/td-p/1287363
[07:59] <kylie667> Everyone has such similar issues, and no answers
[08:00] <Tech> ???
[08:00] <Tech> What is this?  What's up with that?
[08:03] <jamie_> Tech: not that i know of but people avoid it due to you have no clue what age some of the people are on
[08:03] <jamie_> Tech: why the holy crap?
[08:03] <kylie667> jamie_: That was me, the fn f8 worked
[08:04] <kylie667> no trackpad, but now my clicker functions perfectly
[08:04] <kylie667> so I'm wondering what sort of connection is there
[08:04] <jamie_> kylie667: well theres your solution!
[08:04] <kylie667> jamie_: Well, it's some kind of solution. I'm going to figure out what the underlying problem may be.
[08:05] <jamie_> kylie667: do you know much about internals at all?
[08:05] <kylie667> jamie_: Not a clue. :x But that's what Google is for
[08:06] <jamie_> kylie667: lol so true that is how i learned a lot about computers and through trial and error, I would sugest that you make sure you fully understand the directions/ steps to take apart and to reassemble before you do so that you dont damage anything
[08:08] <kylie667> jamie_: One thing I love about Lenovo is that they link extremely extensive take apart instructions for every model of laptop they sell
[08:09] <jamie_> kylie667: when you take off the keyboard there will be a flat wire for the touch pointer, you will want to check the connection, you will know that it is the touch pointer due to the flat wire for the keyboard itself is wider
[08:10] <kylie667> jamie_: Noted, thanks much
[08:11] <jamie_> kylie667: no problem any time, if you need anything see if im on, most of the time you will find me on moznet though
[08:12] <jamie_> Tech: by the way, did you need anything? and yet again what was with the holy crap?
[08:14] <jamie_> Poss_: did you find what you needed in there?
[08:14] <Tech> I was searching on how to configure remmina remote desktop xDD it got me here
[08:15] <Poss_> not yet jamie_, thankyou.
[08:15] <jamie_> Poss_: im still looking for something for you.
[08:16] <jamie_> Tech: remmina in particular??
[08:16] <Tech> Remmina Remote desktop: Bulit in for Ubuntu 14.14 LTS
[08:16] <Tech> *built in
[08:17] <jamie_> Tech: have you tried to just install team viewer? that is what i use all of the time, and it works wonders
[08:18] <Tech> Tried it but the remote client can terminate connection anytime he wants
[08:19] <jamie_> Tech: ????? if you dont mind me asking what are you using it for?
[08:19] <Tech> I need something that the remote client wont notice.. Thanks though =)
[08:19] <jamie_> Tech: there are ways to set it up so you always have access
[08:19] <Poss_> Thanks jamie_ I wouldn't worry too much, I don't think its actually a ubuntu problem, and I'm asking over in #gnome.   I only popped in to see if ubuntu had any tools for monitoring graphics usage on a per app basis.
[08:20] <Tech> It's for office xDD Im a Tech support.. But I'm much more specialized in hardware.. Not much ideas about software configurations
[08:21] <jamie_> Poss_: https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-system-management-interface
[08:22] <jamie_> Tech: well i can do some searching for you if you want?
[08:23] <Tech> Hmmm.. Thanks man, You can help me if you want but I dont wanna Bother someone I just met here xDD
[08:23] <jamie_> I have just about masted the art of google! hahahaha
[08:24] <wafflej0ck> Tech, what's the problem exactly?
[08:24] <jamie_> Tech: this is what i enjoy doing
[08:24] <wafflej0ck> Tech, Remmina works for RDP, have used it to remote into windows servers before
[08:24] <jamie_> between this and mozilla
[08:24] <Tech> Waffle: I cant connect Remmina here. Im Using Ubuntu LTS 14.04
[08:25] <tomhardy> i have about 20 backups of hard drives all from different times containing files at various points
[08:25] <Tech> It Says: Failed to star up SSH Session: Success
[08:25] <tomhardy> i'd like to sort it out and create a single collection.. what software can i get to analyze all the files, identify duplicate files and folders
[08:26] <wafflej0ck> Tech, not sure about that message you have RDP selected in the protocol?
[08:27] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, haven't used it but this appears to fit the bill http://rdiff-backup.nongnu.org/
, It says Keyboard Layout: Auto Detect
[08:27] <tomhardy> yeah not quite what i want.. more sort of something that will go through and say this folder is identical to that folder
[08:28] <tomhardy> that file is identical to that file kinda thing
[08:28] <jamie_> Tech: i found this http://www.7tutorials.com/connecting-windows-remote-desktop-ubuntu#main-content if it helps
[08:28] <Tech> Thanks man
[08:29] <jamie_> Tech: no problem, if that dosent help just say and Ill keep looking
[08:29] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, perhaps something like this http://www.scootersoftware.com/features.php
[08:29] <Poss_> Thanks jamie, I had tried the base command, looking through the advanced documentation, looks like there may be commands which will get what I'm after
[08:30] <tomhardy> wafflej0ck: thanks but wont' work either.. the folders dont' neccessaryly have the same structure
[08:30] <tomhardy> actually i might grab that anyway
[08:30] <tomhardy> just in case i have to do it manually
[08:31] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, hmm in the case of files being different places think you'd need something that runs a hash on the files and compares those to tell you what's different
[08:31] <jamie_> Poss_: no problem, glad to be of service, mozilla is rather dead right now
[08:31] <tomhardy> wafflej0ck: yeh
[08:31] <tomhardy> or mount the drive exteranlly and use some osx app to do it
[08:32] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, you know any programming?
[08:32] <wafflej0ck> tomhardy, you could probably code this up without too much effort in quite a few things if there's nothing out there
[08:32] <tomhardy> yh, 20yrs+ :)
[08:32] <tomhardy> yeah i was thinking that
[08:32] <tomhardy> loop through the dirs.. get hashes
[08:32] <wafflej0ck> yeah just store a dictionary with paths or something
[08:32] <jamie_> odd question about this situation... how are you running an osx app on ubuntu????
[08:33] <tomhardy> although in my experience .. these projets usually take a few days :)
[08:33] <tomhardy> jamie_: mount the ubuntu drive over the network
[08:33] <jamie_> tomhardy: and a lot of processing power
[08:33] <tomhardy> using sshfs
[08:33] <wafflej0ck> I think I could roll it in Java pretty quick really, I used to have a few maven plugins that did the folder traversal part with that out of the way it's not much more work
[08:33] <jamie_> oh... i thought you meant on the ubuntu itself
[08:35] <tomhardy> cheers yeah you might be right
[08:35] <tomhardy> need to code something up
[08:37] <jamie_> that would be awesome to run a .dmg file directly on ubuntu though.. just not verry logical in my opnion
[08:38] <ram_> In windows it's possible to connect two laptops using homegroup & share data wen i try to do the same between two laptops with ubuntu os i can't access the hard drive of the second guy's laptop
[08:38] <jamie_> are you using eithernet?
[08:39] <Svetlana> "can't access" isn't very specific, please describe what happens and where you get stuck exactly
[08:39] <ram_> no wifi
[08:40] <Svetlana> more detail, do you see it in the list of computers on the network, what happens when you click it, etc
[08:41] <Poss_> ram_ have you tried samba?
[08:41] <ram_> i can see his laptop name in my network tab bt wen i choose his laptop it asks for credentials even though i give t right credentials i can't see any of his documents, videos,
[08:41] <jamie_> Poss_ that is what i was about to say
[08:42] <wafflej0ck> Tech, not sure what you're looking at really use imgur to share images or pastebin for text
[08:44] <ram_> i'm installing samba
[08:44] <Tech> My problem is identifying my SSH keys :/
[08:45] <Poss_> ram_ windows intentionally doesn't play well with other operating systems, and it often takes a bit of fiddling to get a network up and running.  Samba is the application used to set up shared directories between windows and linux.  While it works quickly sometimes, sometimes it takes a lot of configuration.  For one off sharing, unfortunately external drives can sometimes be a quicker solution.
[08:45] <ram_> does it also work for file transfer b/w  pc & laptop sharing ethernet?
[08:45] <jamie_> well, I almost forgot the reason I got on here earlier to start with
[08:46] <jamie_> ram_: if doing diriect you want a crossover cable instead of a eithernet cable
[08:47] <jamie_> e.g. one computer into another
[08:47] <ram_> thx guys let me try all ur ideas one by one
[08:48] <jamie_> oh and by the way, has there been any resolution found to the nvidia drivers not working on 14.10 yet, i can really find any current information
[08:48] <Poss_> ram_ good luck.
[08:49] <jamie_> its making my gpu go insane right now
[08:51] <jamie_> okay... thats odd, i went to do a manual check for updates and it returned with failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[08:51] <jamie_> I tripple checked
[08:52] <Poss_> jamie_ which driver version? the bug says its fixed for 331
[08:52] <jamie_> 3100m
[08:54] <Poss_> jamie_ is this the bug you're experiencing? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1363408
[08:56] <jamie_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates/+bug/1268257 but for 14.10 and when i go through the crash report and submit it it for some odd reason say that its a bug on 14.04
[08:57] <Poss_> jamie_ my general advice for fixing nvidia driver issues is to add the nvidia-edgers ppa and then update to the newer version, the ubuntu versions are often way behind.
[08:57] <ram_> unlock key ring wat does this mean? i often get a pop up stating this msg
[08:59] <Poss_> ram_ it means you've changed your login password since install, but not changed your other passwords.  look here http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/18/enter-password-to-unlock-your-keyring-prompt-in-ubuntu/
[09:00] <jamie_> Poss_: i use x.org x server one, it seems to do rendering better, but for some odd reason after switching to 14.10 about a month or two ago, it dosent seem to work the same and respond with crash reports and errors a lot
[09:01] <White_Cat> I get invalid arch-independent ELF magic when trying to boot
[09:02] <jamie_> well a lot of things for no good reason crash in general on 14.10, but a lot when it comes to rendering
[09:02] <White_Cat> I have been following http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[09:03] <Caleb--> is it possible to display some kind of a graphical messagebox from the shell?
[09:03] <Caleb--> i have a script that is run in the background, and upon an error i'd like a msgbox to be shown on screen, because otherwise i have no way of knowing
[09:04] <jamie_> well, im gonna try to figure this out tomorrow, I still have to finish and update bug reports for mozilla and its already 4 am
[09:04] <Poss_> White_Cat, that message usually indicates a corrupted grub install, have a look at this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18120835/debian-grub-rescue-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic
[09:05] <jamie_> well Poss_ i hope you found what you need, If not I'll be more than happy to help you some more tomorrow!
[09:06] <Poss_> Caleb--  is "echo" insufficient?  http://linuxcommand.org/wss0150.php
[09:06] <Poss_> jamie,  yes thank you :)
[09:06] <jamie_> i need to find a better bed time then 6 am......
[09:07] <Poss_> or just move to a better time zone? :)
[09:07] <jamie_> well, that might work to, but then the earliest would be 3 am.. still aint the best sleep habit
[09:07] <Poss_> only 8pm in australia mate, thats a fine bedtime
[09:08] <jamie_> like i said, i still have bug reports to file, and I have been up since 8 am, and i didnt get much help with anything on firefox os today with the dam reports... so this outta be fun
[09:10] <Poss_> I'm sure it'll look better after some sleep
[09:10] <jamie_> yea... i want to get them done before the rest of mozilla wakes up...
[09:12] <jamie_> at least i have fun with my computer work!!!!!!
[09:12] <White_Cat> Poss_ err I am strugling with that
[09:12] <ararob> work today? suckerz
[09:13] <White_Cat> I tried typing apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc-bin grub-pc
[09:13] <White_Cat> its telling me reinstallaiton is not possible
[09:13] <White_Cat> I botted with live cd
[09:13] <White_Cat> was this a mistake?
[09:13] <jamie_> ararob: when you work online you tend to work all year around, and anyways its working in development and testing of firefox OS
[09:16] <Poss_> White_Cat shouldn't be a problem, but you'll have to mount your install partition http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[09:17] <Poss_> jamie_ sounds like a dream job
[09:18] <White_Cat> Poss_ I see that
[09:18] <White_Cat> I used similar commands maybe
[09:18] <White_Cat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[09:18] <White_Cat> can you take a look at this?
[09:18] <jamie_> Poss_ it has it perks, Im getting the new build/ model of the flame when this round is distributed!!
[09:19] <jamie_> I spend most of my day working on what I love!!! and can chose when i work as long as its all done in a timely manor
[09:20] <EriC^^> White_Cat: that seems to be for an accidental install
[09:20] <EriC^^> White_Cat: paste sudo parted -l
[09:21] <Poss_> jamie_  i like the idea of an open source phone, but it seems pretty pointless on closed source hardware with built in backdoors, and then to plug the whole thing into a corporate mobile network.
[09:22] <jamie_> its not as closed as you think.... it is an openly availble os to flash if someone has taken the time to port it to that phone, and if you have the knolege you can just do it yourself, its all available right on the web openly
[09:22] <Poss_> White_Cat, I am afraid I can't offer much advice outside of starting from scratch, uninstalling and reinstalling following the official process
[09:22] <lucAsk> exit
[09:23] <White_Cat> sure
[09:23] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/tzge7LDk
[09:23] <White_Cat> I dont want to reinstall ubuntu as I dont want to loose the data I have
[09:23] <White_Cat> the entire reason why I went this route is o have the ability to backup
[09:24] <White_Cat> legacy bios wasnt detecting drives
[09:24] <Poss_> jamie_  I still doubt we'll be seeing RMS with one
[09:24] <jamie_> and its linux originated to make the hardware not need new firmware, and that is what is called gonk, and the rest is all smartly html!!!
[09:24] <White_Cat> I can get to grub unlike before so it should be a simple matter of setting grub efi up
[09:24] <unknow> 2
[09:24] <unknow> 2
[09:25] <jamie_> Poss_ you do mean risk management right?
[09:25] <White_Cat> EriC^^ the first partition was for bios maybe but this is a raid 5 so maybe its for raid related stuff
[09:25] <White_Cat> I am unsure
[09:25] <jamie_> well risk management solutions
[09:25] <EriC^^> White_Cat: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:25] <EriC^^> White_Cat: the first partition was cause you installed using a gpt partition with legacy
[09:25] <White_Cat> ah
[09:26] <unknow> quit
[09:26] <unknow> exit
[09:26] <EriC^^> White_Cat: it's not required for uefi but it's ok i guess to leave it
[09:26] <White_Cat> yeah its tiny
[09:26] <Poss_> jamie_ no i mean Stallman,  he hates mobile phones
[09:26] <White_Cat> I dont want to risk boot over such small space
[09:27] <Poss_> jamie_ i guess given the room we're in, the logic question is what does Firefox OS have over ubuntu phones?
[09:27] <White_Cat> EriC^^ I did type that command by the way
[09:27] <EriC^^> White_Cat: it should be ok, plus if you ever have to boot it on a bios pc you can still do that
[09:27] <Tahrpup> Do anyone knows which Copyright does "LINUX: Rute User’s Tutorial and Exposition" uses ?? Thanks.
[09:28] <unknow> EXEC cd $HOME/xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[09:28] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[09:28] <fafhnir> no clue
[09:28] <jamie_> Poss_ other than less hard ware requirements, and main orientation to general usability and phones that do come with it on there
[09:28] <unknow> EXEC cd $HOME/xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[09:28] <ram_> oh jeez can't even set up a simple software IM,Pidgin
[09:28] <jamie_> ubuntu is more of a power house than a daily user
[09:29] <White_Cat> no errors or anything so far
[09:29] <EriC^^> White_Cat: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:29] <White_Cat> with this I am mounting my linux installation and the directory efi within it, right?
[09:29] <Poss_> Tahrpup here is the licence http://rute.2038bug.com/copying.html.gz
[09:29] <EriC^^> White_Cat: yes
[09:30] <jamie_> Poss_ ubuntu is orientated to be used extraneously and for high end tasks, yet again one that i helped in the beta stage with testing
[09:30] <EriC^^> White_Cat: now you're mounting the virtual filesystems from the liveusb to the mounted installation
[09:30] <ram_> Account nt authorized in Pidgin IM
[09:30] <jamie_> but that one was a volunteer instead of working, but was still worth the time and was fun
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> Does anyone know what's wrong? root@PlayMCPENetwork:/home/playmcpe/final# wget -q -O - http://get.pocketmine.net/ | bash -r
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> bash: line 61: /dev/null: restricted: cannot redirect output
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> bash: line 69: /dev/null: restricted: cannot redirect output
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> error, curl or wget not found
[09:31] <Codmadnesspro> Woops didn't know it was going to show on multiple lines soz
[09:32] <dts|pokeball> hey guys... ive got this weird issue. so im writing an irc eval bot, and obviously i need a sandbox for it
[09:32] <dts|pokeball> oops sorry didnt mean to hit enter
[09:32] <White_Cat> EriC^^ sort of like a boot transfusion?
[09:32] <EriC^^> in a way yes i guess
[09:32] <White_Cat> the command executed fairly quickly within seconds by the way
[09:32] <Codmadnesspro> But wget and curl is installed...
[09:32] <White_Cat> I recheck what I type to make sure its correct
[09:33] <Poss_> jamie_ it just seems like there is a lot of competition between ubuntu, firefox and sailfish, and it looks like there is a lot of duplication of effort going on for dubious benefit.
[09:33] <EriC^^> White_Cat: it executes quickly, if it returns nothing you're ok i guess
[09:33] <White_Cat> yeah it doesnt. :)
[09:33] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[09:33] <White_Cat> as in no output
[09:34] <Tahrpup> Poss_: Thanks.
[09:34] <White_Cat> its now using root
[09:34] <jamie_> Poss_ its all a step twards the next generation of technology and I love being a part of it, I was rather not supprised when they stated that the edge would not be relased and is being retracted
[09:34] <CryptoSiD> Hi, im doing apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade on ubuntu server and it try to install gnome-desktop and like 465 packages!?
[09:34] <CryptoSiD> how can i fix this!
[09:34] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, is it a 64bit machine?
[09:34] <AndroUser2> hi
[09:34] <White_Cat> yes
[09:35] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, type sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed
[09:35] <White_Cat> I type sudo even if it is root?
[09:35] <EriC^^> sorry, no sudo
[09:36] <wafflej0ck> EriC^^, doesn't hurt anyhow does it? if you do sudo as root?
[09:36] <jamie_> Poss_ due to what they were trying to do with it at the time was a little far fetched to be a daily affordable phone like they planed or an easily crowd sourced project for development. the concept is possible, but now with the limited crowd sourcing/ kickstarter they have sadfully
[09:36] <EriC^^> i'm not completely sure, i've heard it's not recommended
[09:37] <EriC^^> i can't think of why it would be harmful though
[09:37] <White_Cat> it aborted half way saying "Can't access efivars filesystem at /sys/firmware/efi/efivars, aborting"
[09:37] <dts|pokeball> hey guys... ive got this weird issue. so im writing an irc eval bot, and obviously i need a sandbox for it. someone suggested: http://www.ucw.cz/moe/ the only issue is i have to run it as root. someone in #nim told me to di setuid as root. how would i do this? also if someone has a good sandbox to suggest im down to hear it
[09:38] <White_Cat> I can pastebin the whole thing if you like
[09:38] <Poss_> jamie_ the specific problem I've seen with firefox OS is the way it handles apps is to assume everyone has a good enough internet connection to use all the apps not on the device, its like an OS built to be used on wifi.
[09:38] <White_Cat> pastebin
[09:39] <EriC^^> White_Cat: it's ok, type exit, then type modprobe efivars
[09:40] <White_Cat> typed
[09:40] <White_Cat> no output
[09:40] <EriC^^> ok, sudo chroot /mnt once again
[09:40] <White_Cat> yep
[09:40] <White_Cat> same command?
[09:41] <EriC^^> yup
[09:41] <jamie_> Poss_ it does hold the actual app on the phone itself, the only one that it does not is the ones that run off internet to start with to try to save space and make less for b2g to have to do and mostly a quick process throught Gaia and to avoid Jank
[09:42] <White_Cat> its saying it already is the latest and some packages can be removed
[09:42] <White_Cat> inclusing grub-pc-bin
[09:42] <EriC^^> White_Cat: try apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[09:43] <White_Cat> it  completed without an error
[09:43] <EriC^^> ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && update-grub
[09:44] <White_Cat> as root right?
[09:44] <Poss_> jamie_ thats what i mean, in lieu of having a dedicated app store, it relies largely on web based apps, which require continuous data use.   There are signed apps from a variety of sources, but that seems like a step backwards from linux and ios.  I don't know as much as you obviously, but it seems like a solution in search of a problem, im just not sure there is enough market demand there. Still, I wish you luck with it.
[09:44] <EriC^^> White_Cat: yes
[09:45] <White_Cat> grub install: error: /boot/efi doesn't look like an efi partition
[09:45] <jamie_> Poss_ thanks. If your interested in taking a closer look here is the architecture  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Platform/Architecture
[09:45] <EriC^^> White_Cat: type gdisk -l /dev/sda
[09:46] <EriC^^> does it have the EF00 code?
[09:46] <White_Cat> I think I need to install it
[09:46] <White_Cat> two packages are listed gdisk and gdisk-noicu
[09:47] <White_Cat> I can apt-get either
[09:47] <White_Cat> or both
[09:47] <EriC^^> install gdisk
[09:48] <jamie_> Poss_ have a good.... night for you probably..... that was fun, I hope to have anther conversation like that again!
[09:48] <White_Cat> let me pastebin the output
[09:48] <Poss_> jamie_ and you sleep well mate, talk again soon
[09:49] <jamie_> thanks
[09:49] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/f7EFXT7k
[09:49] <White_Cat> its listed only on the bios partition I think
[09:49] <White_Cat> EF00 code
[09:50] <White_Cat> 4 should be the efi partition
[09:50] <White_Cat> and it has code 0700
[09:51] <EriC^^> yes
[09:53] <EriC^^> White_Cat: type cgdisk /dev/sda
[09:54] <White_Cat> I have a text menu
[09:54] <EriC^^> ok use the arrow to select the efi partition, then click on type
[09:54] <EriC^^> and type ef00
[09:54] <White_Cat> efi partition is fat 32 btw
[09:55] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:55] <White_Cat> okay
[09:55] <White_Cat> now should I use write
[09:55] <EriC^^> yes
[09:55] <White_Cat> it made it EFI System
[09:55] <White_Cat> am I sure, its asking :/
[09:56] <White_Cat> I imagine it wont destroy data
[09:56] <EriC^^> no, it will just set the type
[09:57] <White_Cat> should I quit?
[09:57] <White_Cat> it returned to the previous menu
[09:57] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:57] <White_Cat> returned to terminal as root
[09:58] <EriC^^> ok, try the grub-install command again
[09:58] <White_Cat> I was just gonna ask that :)
[09:58] <White_Cat> same error :/
[09:58] <EriC^^> White_Cat: try typing exit
[09:58] <EriC^^> partprobe
[09:59] <EriC^^> then chroot again
[09:59] <White_Cat> gdisk -l /def/sda shows correct code though
[09:59] <White_Cat> okay
[09:59] <White_Cat> still the same grub install error
[10:00] <EriC^^> White_Cat: type ls -l /boot/efi
[10:01] <White_Cat> fairly long list
[10:01] <EriC^^> any EFI dir?
[10:01] <White_Cat> half a screen but then again this thing has a small screen
[10:02] <White_Cat> I dont think so
[10:02] <White_Cat> let me pastebin it
[10:02] <EriC^^> are you in the chroot?
[10:02] <White_Cat> yes
[10:02] <EriC^^> ok
[10:03] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/TxQnsLsi
[10:03] <White_Cat> an efi isnt mentioned in the list once
[10:04] <EriC^^> ok, pastebin mount
[10:05] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ah, i messed up
[10:05] <EriC^^> hold on
[10:05] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/PPQWGEaC
[10:06]  * White_Cat braces :D
[10:06] <EriC^^> type exit, then sudo umount /mnt/boot/efi
[10:07] <EriC^^> then type ls /mnt , if the installation is there
[10:07] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/boot/efi
[10:08] <schizdroid> Hey :3
[10:10] <White_Cat> exiinstallation? as in a directory or filename named that?
[10:12] <EriC^^> if the installation is there, boot etc home root lib ..
[10:12] <White_Cat> boot etc lib  and home are all listed
[10:13] <EriC^^> ok, did you mount the efi partition?
[10:13] <White_Cat> not yet
[10:13] <White_Cat> I have the command typed
[10:13] <White_Cat> but I havent hit enter yet
[10:13] <EriC^^> lol
[10:14] <White_Cat> :D I hesitate with boot issues
[10:14] <EriC^^> nothing bad is going to happen
[10:14] <White_Cat> should I run the command or should I perform something else?
[10:14] <White_Cat> okay :)
[10:14] <White_Cat> dealing with boot always terifies me
[10:15] <EriC^^> it shouldn't it's the easiest of issues if you have a live usb
[10:15] <White_Cat> oh okay
[10:16] <White_Cat> ls /mnt doesnt seem to list efi still
[10:16] <EriC^^> it should be listed in /mnt/boot/efi
[10:16] <White_Cat> probably
[10:17] <White_Cat> being a subdir and all :D
[10:17] <White_Cat> so should I chroot and run the grub command again?
[10:17] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:18] <EriC^^> White_Cat: actually
[10:18] <White_Cat> it seemingly is doing something
[10:18] <EriC^^> don't
[10:18] <White_Cat> it ended with done
[10:18] <EriC^^> it's ok if you did though
[10:18] <White_Cat> ack
[10:18] <White_Cat> you are gonna give me a heart attack :p
[10:19] <White_Cat> it mentioned a setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported
[10:19] <EriC^^> White_Cat: run apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[10:19] <White_Cat> its a warning though
[10:20] <White_Cat> installaiton finished no error
[10:20] <White_Cat> I imagine I should run the grub install a second time?
[10:20] <EriC^^> ok
[10:21] <EriC^^> it wont hurt
[10:21] <White_Cat> same output
[10:21] <White_Cat> ended with done
[10:22] <EriC^^> ok, type exit
[10:23] <EriC^^> restart and see if it works
[10:23] <White_Cat> reboot not from live cd I imagine
[10:24] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:27] <EriC^^> White_Cat: any luck?
[10:27] <White_Cat> it gave a general exception
[10:28] <White_Cat> so rebooted a second time
[10:28] <uyfguigio> can i speak chinese?
[10:28] <White_Cat> its taking forever
[10:28] <Svetlana> !zh
[10:28] <White_Cat> EriC^^ I get invalid environment block
[10:28] <White_Cat> then some red text
[10:29] <White_Cat> General Protection Exception
[10:29] <White_Cat> maybe efi is portected
[10:29] <White_Cat> thats the issue
[10:29] <EriC^^> when it boots, can you get to the boot manager?
[10:29] <White_Cat> sure
[10:30] <White_Cat> I can select boot device if you want me to
[10:30] <White_Cat> I let it boot on its own so far
[10:30] <EriC^^> there might be a button that lets you choose which efi entry to boot
[10:30] <EriC^^> press esc and see if there is something along the lines of boot options there
[10:31] <White_Cat> okay, I will try to choose a boot device first to see if it can boot at all
[10:31] <White_Cat> its an hp server so its quite annoying
[10:31] <EriC^^> oh crap
[10:32] <White_Cat> error: invalid environment block. pops up for a short while
[10:32] <marlo_> there is a command i stumbled across the other day, and have now forgotten what it was, that would continuously run a command on the console, wait a few second, run it again... for monitoring some process.
[10:32] <White_Cat> and then is replaced with red text which states "General Protection Exception" "X64 Exception Type 0D"
[10:33] <White_Cat> I think its from grub or soon after
[10:33] <EriC^^> marlo_: watch <command>
[10:33] <marlo_> EriC^^, yes... that's it!!! thank you!
[10:34] <White_Cat> EriC^^ should I go into the bios
[10:34] <White_Cat> I dont think boot order is the issue though
[10:34] <EriC^^> White_Cat: ok, i gtg but i'll be here later
[10:35] <EriC^^> White_Cat: not the boot order, there's a boot manager
[10:35] <White_Cat> okay
[10:35] <EriC^^> it could be that you need to have a EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi file present
[10:36] <White_Cat> going for lunch?
[10:36] <White_Cat> :)
[10:37] <EriC^^> nope, going for bed :D
[10:37] <White_Cat> oh no
[10:37] <EriC^^> it's 12;30pm here
[10:37] <White_Cat> :(
[10:37] <EriC^^> haven't slept yet
[10:37] <White_Cat> I understand
[10:38] <EriC^^> pm not am
[10:38] <White_Cat> I am badly stuck then :(
[10:43] <eman_> hello hello
[10:44] <Svetlana> hi eman_
[10:45] <Lorthirk> hello. i'm having troubles installing 14.10 on my laptop... here's my question on askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/567785/14-10-installation-stalls-on-santech-m68-laptop
[10:45] <Lorthirk> can anyone help?
[10:47] <LTS14N00b> Hi All, I need to convert some video files into DIVX, I have found outreel which works, but I have heard that DivX-Converter GUI teamed up with mencoder works well. I have installed Mencoder and downloaded the GZ of DivX Converter. How do I install it or do I need to run it via the terminal each time?
[10:48] <White_Cat> EriC^^ on the bright side I can boot from the bios partition
[10:49] <EriC^^> White_Cat: sorry, and yeah you can
[10:52] <EriC^^> White_Cat: did you try the esc button?
[10:52] <White_Cat> no
[10:52] <White_Cat> it was lots of red text
[10:52] <White_Cat> I cannot have server hang on every reboot :)
[10:53] <EriC^^> White_Cat: i know, it's just to get an idea of what's going on
[10:59] <przemek> hello. I have a problem. I'm getting error "error while loading shared libraries: libQtGui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but apt-get install libqtgui4 states that libqtgui4 is already installed. Where should I look?
[11:08] <White_Cat> EriC^^ well system booted and I have people that need to use the server
[11:08] <White_Cat> I suppose you are already asleap by now though :p
[11:17] <Rubel> hi
[11:18] <coin3d> hi there. i've got an external usb hard drive, which i can address, directly after booting of the computer, by using the symlink /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Seagate_Expansion_Desk_NA4JVZ3F-0:0
[11:18] <coin3d> however, after some time, e.g. 5 - 10 minutes
[11:18] <coin3d> this symlink disappears, and instead there is a new symlink ata-ST3000DM001-1CH166_W1F2KE65
[11:19] <coin3d> is there some way to debug this? i dont want to get symlinks deleted, since ive stuff which relies on that symlink
[11:47] <MAGGI> Hi Every Body I recently install ubuntu 14.04 desktop and created admin for root accesss and rec for standard user. Now the problem is i used admin user (root or sudo ) to mounted windows share to /mnt it is mounted but when i type ls to list the error msg Permission deny will come and another thing is with i try to edit /etc/fstab it also shows sa
[11:47] <MAGGI> me error. after that i seen ls -l /etc/fstab the user and group is root root and same to /mnt dir
[11:48] <mrbillgates> where can I check what all partitions use encryption ?
[11:48] <Lorthirk> hello. i'm having troubles installing 14.10 on my laptop... here's my question on askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/567785/14-10-installation-stalls-on-santech-m68-laptop
[11:48] <Lorthirk> can anyone help?
[11:54] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[11:55] <TvL2386> hi
[12:10] <MAGGI> Hi Every Body I recently install ubuntu 14.04 desktop and created admin for root accesss and rec for standard user. Now the problem is i used admin user (root or sudo ) to mounted windows share to /mnt it is mounted but when i type ls to list the error msg Permission deny will come and another thing is with i try to edit /etc/fstab it also shows sa
[12:10] <MAGGI> me error. after that i seen ls -l /etc/fstab the user and group is root root and same to /mnt dir
[12:15] <adante> hi, my /boot is full, what is the best procedure for cleaning out the old kernel images
[12:15] <adante> there's about 6 there at the moment, presumably from old upgrades
[12:16] <Lorthirk> is there a way to prevent nouveau driver loading during ubuntu installation?
[12:17] <collizion> adante: Use 'uname' to find your currently running kernel, and remove all the others. As a practice, I always keep the current one and one previous, just in case.
[12:18] <adante> collizion: thanks - poor google fu on my part before asking - just found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition
[12:18] <collizion> adante: No worries. :)
[12:19] <collizion> Lorthirk: You should be able to add "nouveau.blacklist=1" to your kernel line in GRUB.
[12:19] <adante> say, that guide asks me to run 'sudo apt-get autoremove', which prompts me to remove linux-image-generic -- this seems counterintuitive to me, what is going on here (i assume linux-image-generic is a versionless package)?
[12:19] <Lorthirk> ok, i'm going to try it now!
[12:20] <Lorthirk> it won't propogate to the installation, will it?
[12:20] <collizion> Lorthirk: If you manually enter it in GRUB when you boot, no. It'll only take effect for that single startup.
[12:20] <collizion> Lorthirk: I think.
[12:20] <Lorthirk> ok. i'm going to try :D
[12:21] <collizion> adante: I wouldn't worry about autoremove.
[12:21] <przemek> hello. I have a problem. I'm getting "error while loading shared libraries: libQtGui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but apt-get install libqtgui4 states that libqtgui4 is already installed. Ubuntu 14.04, Where should I look?
[12:21] <collizion> adante: Just go through and remove each old actual kernel package.
[12:22] <adante> collizion: cheers - just for my education what is it trying to do there?
[12:22] <kostkon> przemek, probably it's asking for the 32bit version of those libraries, if you are on a 64bit system
[12:22] <kostkon> !find libQtGui.so.4
[12:22] <collizion> adante: autoremove goes through and removes packages that were installed to satisfy dependencies, but are no longer needed.
[12:23] <kostkon> przemek, you could try sudo apt-get install libqtgui4:i386 and see if that changes anything
[12:23] <collizion> adante: Generally speaking, it's a safe operation, but not really necessary.
[12:23] <collizion> adante: Unless you have some particular reason to run it, of course.
[12:26] <przemek> kostkon: intalling 32bit package did the job. thanks
[12:26] <kostkon> przemek, np
[12:26] <collizion> kostkon: How did you figure that out, anyway? I didn't even think of that.
[12:28] <kostkon> collizion, usual problem on 64bit systems nowadays after the deprecation of ia32-libs
[12:28] <collizion> kostkon: Is that typically an issue seen on desktops? I deal mostly with servers, so I almost never run into anything needing 32-bit libraries.
[12:29] <kostkon> collizion, mostly when people try to run 3rd party 32bit apps
[12:29] <kostkon> collizion, on their 64bit installations*
[12:30] <BluesKaj_> usually games
[12:32] <Lorthirk> collizion, no way. nouveau still gets loaded
[12:33] <collizion> Lorthirk: Weird.  Then again, nouveau is a SPECIAL kind of ass-pain.
[12:34] <Lorthirk> from what i'm reading... blacklisting only works with external kernel modules (.ko). does nouveau works this way?
[12:34] <collizion> Lorthirk: OR... nouveau is included in the initramfs that you're booting from.
[12:35] <collizion> Lorthirk: Question, though. WHY are you disabling nouveau? NVIDIA card?
[12:35] <Lorthirk> yes
[12:35] <Lorthirk> please look at this question
[12:35] <collizion> BRB in 20.
[12:35] <Lorthirk> askubuntu.com/questions/567785/14-10-installation-stalls-on-santech-m68-laptop
[12:35] <Lorthirk> brb in 20 as well :D
[12:36] <dannymichel> Hi all. I know rutorrent has a channel, but was wondering if someone here could help me. I'm using rutorrent on a dedicated server and my user is chown to 3 different hard drives on the dedicated server. Right now, all rutorrent can see or add new torrents from is whatever is in ~/ . How do I add the other hard drives to that?
[12:37] <ikonia> add it to what ?
[12:40] <dannymichel> ikoniaadd add other hard drives to directories rutorrent has access to to add new torrents from or save torrents to.
[12:52] <veehem>   /away
[12:55] <utox> ya til un canale pours des iso
[12:57] <Lorthirk> collizion, i'm back whenever you want
[12:57] <collizion> Likewise.
[13:05] <Lorthirk> ok, so
[13:05] <Lorthirk> as i said, collizion, have a look at this question
[13:06] <Lorthirk> askubuntu.com/questions/567785/14-10-installation-stalls-on-santech-m68-laptop
[13:09] <collizion> Lorthirk: Looking over it now.
[13:09] <collizion> Lorthirk: Does it do the same thing if you boot with the nouveau.blacklist=1 line?
[13:09] <Lorthirk> yes
[13:10] <Lorthirk> that's why i asked if nouveau is an external module in the first place
[13:11] <Majdi> Hey there
[13:12] <collizion> Lorthirk: I don't think it is.
[13:13] <Lorthirk> so blacklisting won't work...
[13:13] <Lorthirk> any ideas? :\
[13:14] <Lorthirk> i guess that the problem is indeed in the kernel... as said in the question, both linux mint (3.13) and fedora 21 (3.18) works ok (but on feodora 21 i had to add nomodeset at boot)
[13:14] <Lorthirk> utopic is shipped with...?
[13:14] <collizion> I'm not sure. I haven't really touched utopic other than realizing it's a bit of a mess.
[13:14] <jbergler> Does anyone know where I can look to troubleshoot uploading packages to a ppa - the googles suggest that it can take several hours but its been more than 12 and still hasn’t shown up
[13:15] <Majdi> installed xorg-edgers ppa yesterday and updated the system (that's foolish, i just wanted to install nvidia-340, but didn't realize you don't have to update all packages for that)
[13:15] <Majdi> now I can't remove xorg-xedgers ppa with ppa-purge, gives me this output : http://pastebin.com/HyiZcnwh
[13:15] <Lorthirk> uhm... maybe i could try installing 14.04, installing nvidia drivers and then upgrading to 14.10
[13:16] <collizion> Lorthirk: Hey, there's an option.
[13:16] <Lorthirk> i will right now!
[13:16] <Majdi> (sorry for the french in the paste my system locale is french)
[13:16] <Lorthirk> thanks anyway :D
[13:17] <Majdi> my problem looks similar to that one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924041
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, just comment the deb line in the sources.list with a # or remove the deb line altogether, then update again
[13:19] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, ppa-purge does that automatically, but it doesn't downgrade the packages installed from xorg-edgers though
[13:20] <Majdi> which I need to do
[13:20] <Majdi> cause X server is broken with new packages
[13:21] <Majdi> because of that "libgtk2.0-0" dependency problem which you can see in the pastebin
[13:21] <BluesKaj_> yes, but purging the ppas doesn't remove the driver , Majdi
[13:22] <Majdi> in fact it seems to me it does, judging by the "packages to be removed" list given by ppa-purge
[13:22] <BluesKaj_> and to complicate matters you are running 2 gpus
[13:23] <Majdi> it just can't proceed to the package removal because of that dependency issue
[13:23] <Majdi> Yeah, I'm aware of that, but that's okay
[13:23] <BluesKaj_> best to just remove the nvidia-340 driver with apt-get if it's not working
[13:24] <Majdi> fine, but I also want to remove all the xorg packages from the ppa, which I installed by mistake doing a system upgrade
[13:24] <Majdi> after adding the ppa
[13:26] <Majdi> just couldn't figure how to solve this "libgtk2.0-0 requires libcairo2 but is to be installed and libgdk-pixbuf2 but is to be installed" and so on and so on
[13:26] <Majdi> so then I can safely remove the ppa with ppa-purge
[13:27] <Majdi> as adviced by the xorg-edgers ppa disclaimer
[13:27] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, open /etc/apt/sources.list .d with root permissions and remove said ppas there...see if that works , then sudo apt-get update and autoremove
[13:27] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, no.
[13:28] <Majdi> it will screw everything up even more
[13:28] <BluesKaj_> fine , have it your way
[13:28] <Majdi> because
[13:29] <kokut> hows the command to search on channels names?
[13:30] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, sudo apt-get autoremove will remove dependencies no longer needed
[13:31] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, look
[13:33] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:33] <Majdi> ** Please use ppa-purge to remove this PPA. It is *particularly* recommended to do this before upgrading to a new ubuntu release! **
[13:33] <arun> guys, anyone using centos?
[13:33] <Majdi> I need to downgrade everything safely with ppa-purge
[13:34] <Majdi> removing it the usual way like for others ppas doesn't work
[13:34] <Majdi> it just breaks everything even more
[13:34] <collizion> arun: Might ask on #centos.
[13:34] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, well you followed edgers advice and it mucked your system up, now I'm making suggestions to get out of that mess
[13:35] <Majdi> I need to figure that dependency issue which ppa-purge gives
[13:35] <collizion> Majdi: Can I see what happens when you try to ppa-purge?
[13:36] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, I didn't do it on purpose. installing only nvidia driver from xorg-edgers usually is fine, but I upgraded all system and then realized it was stupid
[13:36] <Majdi> collizion, http://pastebin.com/HyiZcnwh this is the output of the "sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers" command
[13:36] <Majdi> sorry for the parts in french
[13:37] <kokut> Anyone knows the command to search within channels names and topics?
[13:37] <Majdi> I can change my locale and run ppa-purge again if you want everything in english
[13:39] <collizion> Majdi: Honestly, that, to me, reads like "nuke and pave."
[13:39] <kostkon> !alis | kokut
[13:39] <Majdi> collizion, haha
[13:39] <kokut> kostkon: thanks man
[13:41] <collizion> Majdi: I wish I was kidding. I can summarize that as follows: Leave the following dependencies unresolved: Everything.
[13:41] <wjtaylor_> sorry for the OT. I shut down my system yesterday to swap out a dvdrom. Now my system is having issue with memory. Not sure why. If the set of ram is left in the system it shuts off after 3 secs and then restarts... looping like this. If I remove the ram it posts without error.... Any reason why this would happen? Is there a fix?
[13:42] <Majdi> collizion, I know. you shouldn't pay attention to the stuff which is written after the libgtk2.0 thing. it's just ppa-purge which tries to use aptitude instead of apt-get to solve the problem which it does even worse by advicing to remove everything.
[13:42] <collizion> Fair enough.
[13:43] <Majdi> collizion, I found that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924041 which is similar to my problem. the thing is, ppa-purge seems to handle multiarch packages not very well
[13:44] <collizion> Majdi: What you could try doing is disable the PPA, install the packages that libgtk wants, then ppa-purge.
[13:44] <collizion> That way it doesn't spaz out on dependencies.
[13:45] <Majdi> collizion, right, exactly. I tried that, no luck. even did apt-get purge --reinstall these packages, then did it with their :i386 counterparts, didn't help either
[13:45] <vifino> Hello. After a reboot, I don't have audio anymore, even though it worked with jack and everything. I changed nothing. Here is the output of the alsa info script: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c9e4ca013629dcdd86a7e105183b2c54b1d93f67 (Jack is running, as jackdbus.)
[13:45] <Majdi> That's why I'm running out of ideas
[13:45] <collizion> Majdi: Nuke and pave? <:)
[13:47] <Majdi> I believe it wants me to remove libgtk2.0 to downgrade it with a version in the ubuntu repos. I tried to apt-get remove it, but then it says it needs to remove all dependencies which require libgtk2.0, so basically everything
[13:47] <vifino> I am running Utopic.
[13:47] <vifino> It worked a day before.
[13:49] <Majdi> so you guys need to tell me one thing, can I remove a package and force it to ignore the dependencies which require it, knowing that I'll install it back after ppa purge ? and collizion call me stubborn haha, but I want so much to solve this without nuke and pave, knowing that I got no backup of my data and I'm really lazy to reinstall everything :)
[13:50] <Bushmaster> hello, seeking some help, i cant convert mp4 to mp3 in my ubuntu, i looked into this forum http://askubuntu.com/questions/174287/how-do-i-convert-an-mp4-to-an-mp3 and followed all the instruction with no luck
[13:50] <collizion> Majdi: You can TRY to remove a package without doing anything about dependencies.
[13:51] <Majdi> collizion, I mean, is there an apt-get trick to force remove a package ignoring that it will break dependencies ?
[13:51] <collizion> Majdi: I'm looking now.
[13:51] <Majdi> collizion, thank you very much !
[13:51] <Majdi> it would be really helping
[13:52] <Bushmaster> this is what happening when i tried to install mp4 to mp3 related packages http://paste.ubuntu.com/9659482/
[13:52] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, you should always have separate partiitions for / (the OS) and your /home dir on separate partitions , then you can reinstall cleanly without affecting your data
[13:53] <xangua> Bushmaster: the question you mention is marked as duplicate, did you already check the "original" question¿ it seems to be better explained
[13:53] <Bushmaster> yes i checked xangua
[13:53] <Bushmaster> look at this xangua http://paste.ubuntu.com/9659482/
[13:53] <collizion> Majdi: You could try using dpkg to remove it manually.
[13:55] <xangua> Bushmaster: did you try what the message says¿
[13:56] <Bushmaster> xangua,  trying again this time with libav-tools
[13:59] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, I know, but this time Netrunner installer didn't let me do that.
[13:59] <Majdi> collizion, ok, I'll try that
[13:59] <Majdi> collizion, thanks
[13:59] <collizion> Majdi: Oh, don't thank me yet. :P
[14:00] <collizion> Majdi: What we're doing definitely falls into Bad Idea territory. But I don't have any good ideas left!
[14:00] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, ahh so you're on an unsupported OS\
[14:02] <srwood> join /ubuntu-touch
[14:03] <Majdi> collizion, yeah, I know I'm doing some yolo stuff right now haha
[14:03] <srwood> join #ubuntu-touch
[14:03] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, using ppas meant for ubuntu OSs and it's flavours are only supported here, not an ubuntu related OS which uses different sources, mixing those sources with your apps on and their dependencies can cause a lot of trouble as you can see
[14:04] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, this is basically kubuntu with a few things added in it
[14:04] <Skyrider> A few days ago, someone suggested I should be using kernel x.1.6 I believe.
[14:04] <Skyrider> rather than the 1.3 that I'm using now.
[14:04] <Skyrider> I can't find the logs though.
[14:04] <jatt> you are not using kernel 1.3
[14:05] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, this is not related at all, it would have done exactly the same thing on pure ubuntu
[14:05] <Majdi> BluesKaj_, and it has, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924041
[14:05] <wu__> hi new fish herer
[14:05] <collizion> Majdi: Let's just see what we can do to resolve this.
[14:06] <Skyrider> I honestly cant remember :(
[14:06] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, I know what netrunner is , I tried it ...recommend you use real kubuntu if want to use KDE DE
[14:07] <Smaroo_linux> Fuck her right in da pussy!
[14:08] <Yon> Hi, is there an ubuntu beginners? I just installed 14.04 intending to dual boot with windows. had win7 installed. followed instructions from http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/05/30/dual-boot-ubuntu-14-04-and-windows-7-on-a-pc-with-uefi-firmware/   exactly. Ubuntu installed but windows is no longer available in the boot menu .... ??
[14:11] <guite> Yon: did you installed ubuntu with a usb boot ?
[14:11] <BluesKaj_> Yon, are you on ubuntu now? if so open a terminal and do, sudo os-prober , then do, sudo update-grub
[14:11] <Skyrider> I am using...
[14:11] <Skyrider> Linux 3.13.0-37-generic on x86_64
[14:12] <Skyrider> I heard it should be 3.16 due to my HDMI issues.
[14:12] <guite> Yon: …or follow BluesKaj_, he probably knows more than me on this
[14:12] <Yon> made a dvd...will do
[14:12] <suggestor> when I want to select task -> lbuntu-desktop there is e.g. normalpkg and normalpkg:i386 then it tells me unable to resolve deps.. because it tries to somehow mix amd64 and i386? Any idea how to solve that (I am with ubuntu-server-14.04
[14:13] <BluesKaj_> Yon, are you running off a live dvd?
[14:14] <Yon> non installed from dvd...did you need the output from os-prober or run update anyway?
[14:15] <srwood_> #ubuntu-touch
[14:16] <nadimsite> HI
[14:16] <BluesKaj_> Yon, no run update-grub  then give us the out put in pastebin
[14:16] <BluesKaj_> !pastebin
[14:16] <bugtraq> yo guys
[14:17] <bugtraq> look me system
[14:17] <hira> hello
[14:17] <Webmills> Hi
[14:17] <bugtraq> hi
[14:18] <hira> Hi,  i am doing my final year project which is a python scripted application named blue proximity.Blue proximity is software that is used to secure your computer by using Bluetooth. It detects your presence with your mobile phone or a Bluetooth dongle near your computer and unlocks it and when you are away from your computer it locks it automatically.
[14:19] <hira> For this purpose, it uses raspberry pi a credit card size small computing device which is compatible to the Blue proximity as well, because the software called Blue proximity runs on the Linux operating system because that software is more compatible to the Linux operating system as it allow its user to directly interact with its kernel. To complete the purpose of Bluetooth we are using Bluetooth dongle or a mobile phone to connect with.
[14:20] <hira> is there anyone who can help me
[14:20] <hira> ??
[14:20] <bugtraq> question?
[14:21] <Yon> @ BluesKaj how do i direct a message at someone? http://pastebin.com/FtGb4NPe
[14:22] <mous_> hi
[14:23] <mous_> hallo
[14:23] <BluesKaj_> Yon, just use their nick, usually by typing the first few letters then completing with the tab key , @ isn't necessary in irc. I see you have windows listed in the grub menu , now you should be able to choose your OS at the grub menu when booting
[14:28] <Yon> BluesKaj_: Sorry, new to this..I did access the grub menu accidentally but windows didn't show on it then..the boot menu normally defaults to the foundation package..excuse me but how would I access the grub menu?
[14:32] <Yon> BluesKaj_: another weird thing is that the drive icon in the side panel of ubuntu isn't for the drive partitioned for ubuntu install. It has all the windows stuff on it
[14:33] <BluesKaj_> Yon, when booting the grub menu should show up after the page wih uefi/bios options
[14:34] <BluesKaj_> yon, let me rephrase: when booting, the grub menu should show up after the page wih uefi/bios options
[14:40] <Yon> BluesKaj_: hmm ok, got it. windows is on the menu but after selecting it, the screen just blinks and reverts back to ubuntu
[14:45] <BluesKaj_> Yon, ok you may need to disable secure and fast boot if they are enabled in the uefi bios and if all else fails try using legacy boot rather than uefi
[15:02] <invertible> if I run a bash script, will the commands executed within the script be visible via ps, or is just the script itself visible?
[15:02] <Zergling316> hi, is there a utility with which i can see the temperatures and control the fanspeed of my amd gpu?
[15:02] <Zergling316> (using open source drivers)
[15:05] <Nikihak> Zergling, I also have problem with temperature of my GPU it is getting overheated a lot
[15:05] <Nikihak> When I play some game it is above 85, and idle it is 70-75 which is high as well
[15:05] <Nikihak> Sorry I can't help about AMD, I have nVidia GPU
[15:09] <Champagne> Hello, I have an audio problem with my Ubuntu machine...
[15:09] <Skyrider> meh...
[15:09] <Champagne> aplay -L outputs: default     Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
[15:09] <Skyrider> HandleLidSwitch=ignore is not working
[15:10] <Champagne> So ALSA sends to Pulse Audio server
[15:10] <Champagne> Nothing is muted
[15:11] <Champagne> And through pavucontrol I've set my HDMI output (5.1 digital + analog input)
[15:13] <Champagne> speaker-test -c 6 -t wav does not yield any sound through the speakers
[15:16] <OrganTrouble> hi
[15:17] <nadimsite> Is ubuntu a free software or open source.
[15:17] <nadimsite> No one knows
[15:17] <compdoc> its open source thats free to use
[15:18] <compdoc> well, most of it is open source
[15:18] <Skyrider> it's either open source or it isn't :p
[15:18] <Skyrider> Most of it isn't defined as fully / completely open source :D
[15:18] <nadimsite> But  richard stallman. Reject ubuntu
[15:18] <ksbalaji> Im on acer aspire running 14.10(LiveUSB) My touchpad rightclick and middleclick doesnt work. Help please.
[15:18] <rberg-> it does include some non free blobs for convenience sake.
[15:18] <compdoc> being free to use makes that a mute point
[15:19] <rberg-> and thats probably why RMS doesnt approve..
[15:19] <collizion> The majority of Ubuntu is open source. Non-open source components are contained in different repositories. It's your choice to use them or not.
[15:19] <compdoc> millions use it. to heck with richard stallman
[15:20] <rberg-> much respect to RMS, but much of what he does is highly impractical. :)
[15:20] <rberg-> for me I mean anyways
[15:22] <ksbalaji> Touchpad rightclick not working in acer aspire laptop on 14.10 usbstick - help
[15:26] <rrr> how to get untar tar.bz2 file?
[15:27] <nadimsite> I installed 14.04. Do I have to move to 14.10. Or maybe still on 14.04.
[15:27] <rrr> how to untar tar.bz2 file?
[15:28] <nadimsite> Yalue what is your opinion?
[15:29] <yalue> nadimsite: Wrong person? My opinion on how to untar a .tar.bz2 would be "tar -xvjf <file.tar.bz2>"
[15:29] <compdoc> Im staying with 14.04
[15:29] <nadimsite> Thanks yalue
[15:30] <Skyrider> I was wondering if someone could help me.
[15:30] <Skyrider> I'm currently on linuxmint, and I'm having black screen issues when HDMI cable is attached to the laptop (for TV).
[15:30] <Skyrider> I'm using radeon.
[15:31] <Zergling316> then you might want to ask in the linuxmint channel
[15:31] <Zergling316> as this is #ubuntu
[15:31] <Skyrider> I'm aware
[15:31] <linuxmint> Skyrider: I had that issue. I think I needed a driver. Better move to linuxmint-help channel though :-)
[15:31] <Skyrider> Though linuxmint uses ubuntu :p
[15:31] <Skyrider> Plus, I'm having this issue on all ubuntu releases.
[15:32] <Skyrider> Including default ubuntu.
[15:34] <sebsebseb> hi
[15:34] <jusss> is anyone there ? can anyone paste the property of /dev/tty0 ?
[15:35] <ramchandra> I'm here. What do you mean by property?
[15:35] <ramchandra> Do you want to restore the permissions?
[15:35] <jusss> yes
[15:35] <jusss> mine is crw--w----
[15:35] <ramchandra> "crw--w----" I'll figure out the
[15:36] <ramchandra> Anyways no need to change it afaik the permissions are not retained (it's the virtual devfs)
[15:36] <jusss> when I open Xorg.bin as non-root, there is a error cannot open /dev/tty0
[15:36] <ramchandra> you need to run Xorg as root
[15:36] <Zergling316> really no one able to help me adjust my fanspeed with the amd open source gpu driver
[15:36] <Zergling316> ?
[15:36] <ramchandra> /dev/tty0 is just one issue
[15:37] <ramchandra> !ubottu patience|Zergling316
[15:37] <ramchandra> !ubottu patience
[15:37] <jusss> ramchandra: run Xorg must be root?
[15:37] <ramchandra> yes, you have to run it as root
[15:38] <jusss> ramchandra: but I can run Xorg as non-root last year
[15:38] <ramchandra> if you want to be able to run it without root every time change the setuid bit
[15:38] <ramchandra> hmm.. you might be right lemme check
[15:39] <ramchandra> I'm pretty sure you have to run it as root so that it can access the video drivers and stuff
[15:39] <guite> hi everyone, can anyone tell me why I need to be sudo so that I can use opencl ? the nvidia gpu is not detected without being sudo
[15:40] <guite> ok sorry, bad guess >_<
[15:40] <guite> there is something else
[15:47] <Skyrider> meh....
[15:47] <Skyrider> I might as well just install ubuntu and get support directly here..
[15:48] <sebsebseb> Skyrider: hi what do you want help with/
[15:48] <sebsebseb> ?
[15:48] <Skyrider> sebsebseb: Currently using linuxmint, so doubt I'll get support here :p
[15:48] <sebsebseb> oh right I see
[15:49] <Skyrider> But this problem is affecting all of my linux installations.
[15:49] <Skyrider> including xubuntu, xbmcbuntu, official ubuntu and linuxmint.
[15:54] <firebird1> hi all i learnt that directory doesnt contain files so come it know what all files are there in that directory for example dir1 has foo1,foo2
[15:54] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, is your audio chip an intel-hda ?
[15:55] <Mathis> hey, how do I install updates on 14.04.1 while being offline?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> Mathis: I don't think you can really or easilly
[15:55] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Yes...
 you must install  all packages who yoou need
[15:57] <teward> Mathis: with infinite difficulty.
[15:57] <teward> Mathis: the only reliable way is to be online - you can't easily install all the packages you'd need for updates without downloading each and every one individually and installing them manually
[15:57] <Mathis> nice...
[15:58] <teward> Mathis: probably better to just invest in networking hardware for the system if you're stuck in the "Not Online" situation.
[15:58] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, ok , in the terminal, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , it's a known bug that fails to load the driver after an upgrade , there should be no output from the modprobe command if the driver loads properly, then a reboot is probly necessary.
[15:58] <Mathis> teward: in that situation networking is not an option
[15:59] <teward> Mathis: then you're out of luck - you can't sanely update if you have no network connectivity, not without figuring out *manually* what packages have changed, which ones you need to download, then download, and manually install
[15:59] <teward> Mathis: if the system has 250 updates to run, for example, then you get to the 'extremely extremely difficult' area
[16:00] <Mathis> its not just about one system, its about 100 boxes
[16:00] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Do you have any input? :( I've isolated that on a fresh reboot I am able to use the speaker test from System settings>Sound. But if I start Firefox and starta a flash internet radio I am unable to do the testing
[16:00] <rberg-> take a look at apt-offline
[16:01] <teward> Mathis: and that ups it to the 'infinitely difficult' area
[16:01] <Mathis> and if I dont find a way to make sure that those UEFI boxes cleanly boot from USB thumbdrives, the only way is to send in the boxes and update them from a central position with internet access
[16:01] <teward> Mathis: but you're still stuck in the situation of downloading the updates manually and installing them
[16:02] <Mathis> I would then install the updates on one of the boxes and create an image of the harddisk, copying it over to the other boxes
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, which browser ?
[16:02] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Firefox (with Flash plugin installed)
[16:04] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: But it is not related to just Flash, because same is when I open XBMC
[16:04] <Mathis> thanks anyway
[16:04] <Champagne> I hear no sound from neither XBMC nor Flash - but what I've found is that as long as either one is running... I can't hear any output from the sound test
[16:05] <Champagne> The only sound that's ever been heard from this system is the speaker-test -t wave sounds
[16:05] <Champagne> It seems like it can only play 1 stream at the time
[16:06] <Champagne> But yet I don't hear the stream from anything other than the test sounds
[16:07] <Champagne> Anyway, I did the mod probe for the audio chip... I'll try rebooting now to see what happens
[16:09] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, what do you have connected to the speakers? HDMI uses the spdif output meant for an hdmi input on a DAC, not an analog out. Try a straight analog in pavucontrol
[16:10] <Champagne> The computer is connected to an AV Receiver (7.1 support but only 5.1 speakers connected)
[16:10] <Champagne> pavucontrol under "Output Devices" tab tells me Port: HDMI/DisplayPort (plugged in)
[16:11] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, ok , the just use the hdmi  or spdif on pavucontrol and the sound setup
[16:11] <BluesKaj_> then
[16:11] <Champagne> And the profile is Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI) Output + Analog Stereo Input
[16:12] <BluesKaj_> yes Champagne there should be a spdif out, that's what I use for my audio receiver
[16:13] <BluesKaj_> you should choose that in alsamixer as well, Champagne
[16:13] <Champagne> Allright, even though I want the sound to go through the HDMI cable?
[16:13] <csabesz> Hello All! Anybody here professional with avconv binary?
[16:14] <BluesKaj_> yes Champagne , the hdmi on the graphics gets the spif from the soundcard
[16:15] <BluesKaj_> spdif that is
[16:15] <BluesKaj_> no analog needed
[16:15] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: I've now selected in System>Sound Play sound through Digital Output (S/PDIF)
[16:15] <BluesKaj_> yes
[16:16] <Champagne> That changes the Output Device in pavucontrol as well to the S/PDIF
[16:16] <BluesKaj_> yes
[16:16] <Champagne> And the test sound window only shows Right and Left, but I hear no sound
[16:16] <Champagne> S/PDIF - isn't that for TOSLINK/Optical cable?
[16:17] <BluesKaj_> coax and hdmi cable as well , Champagne
[16:17] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Allright, but it still gives me no sound... :(
[16:17] <BluesKaj_> reboot
[16:18] <Champagne> Allright, one moment :)
[16:20] <sheap> is there a way to show from which repository a package came from?
[16:21] <MartynKeigher> apt-cache policy <package name>
[16:21] <MartynKeigher> ^ sheap
[16:21] <BluesKaj_> sheap, yes look in the package manager component
[16:21] <MartynKeigher> if you are cli only then the cmd i put should do the trick
[16:22] <sheap> what if the result of a package that is installed says "/var/lib/dpkg/status"?
[16:22] <sheap> instead of a repo name/url
[16:23] <BluesKaj_> sheap, what package ?
[16:23] <sheap> BluesKaj_: libc6
[16:23] <sheap> I somehow have 6.4 installed and it breaks everything
[16:24] <sheap> since it's too high
[16:24] <sheap> I can't figure out where it came from
[16:24] <Majdi> yeah !!!! fixed it ! really happy now
[16:24] <Seveas> sheap: it means you have a version that is not currently in any of your repos