[07:11] <landotter> thespiritoftal, I'm not certain what the "-r" switch does, but "-c" simply continues a download. Make sure you're in the same directory as the file that you want to continue. :)
[07:12] <thespiritoftal> -r belonged to the older command
[07:12] <thespiritoftal> recursive
[07:12] <Bartimaeus> all:  How do you move a file in the command promt?
[07:13] <landotter> "mv"
[07:13] <Bartimaeus> ya, but what is the syntax
[07:13] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: man mv
[07:13] <landotter> "man mv"
[07:13] <landotter> jinx
[07:13] <Bartimaeus> oh
[07:13] <apokryphos> private jinx
[07:13] <apokryphos> woo
[07:14] <_frank> !basiccommands
[07:14] <ubotu> _frank: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:14] <apokryphos> _frank: the Wiki is good for some of that stuff
[07:14] <apokryphos> Also worth checking is the Rute guide
[07:14] <apokryphos> !rute
[07:14] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, rute is a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/
[07:15] <Bartimaeus> how do you move something in the terminal - DETAILS PLEASE!!!!! not just man mv
[07:15] <thespiritoftal> landotter: it doesn't work cause what I was downloading wasn't a single file I was downloading an entire web-site
[07:15] <thespiritoftal> is there another way maybe?
[07:16] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: the man page tells you *exactly* how to do it
[07:17] <Bartimaeus> i know, except i dont understand a word of what it is saying!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:17] <bretzel> Hello, Does someone using wine ?
[07:17] <chillywilly> what do I thorugh in ~/.vnc/xstartup to start up a gnome session via VNC?
[07:17] <NoUse> Bartimaeus you don't understand Source and Destination?
[07:17] <chillywilly> hmmm, it stuck x-window-manager in there but that didn't start up gnome
[07:17] <Bartimaeus> i get that, but not how to implement it
[07:18] <apokryphos> mv [OPTION] ... SOURCE DEST
[07:18] <ompaul> Bartimaeus, source where the file lives now - destination where it will live - mv foo /Desktop/.
[07:18] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  try, "mv /path/to/file/filename /path/to/new/location/new_filename"  It doesn't get much easier than that!
[07:18] <NoUse> !mv
[07:18] <ubotu> NoUse: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:18] <Bartimaeus> thankyou
[07:18] <Bartimaeus> thats what i wanted
[07:19] <Bartimaeus> someone to tell me *exactly* what to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:19] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: erm, he told you nothing more than the man page tells you. Good practice to read :)
[07:19] <NoUse> Bartimaeus yeah IRC is not an exercise in hand holding
[07:19] <Bartimaeus> no, thats news to me
[07:19] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: you learn something new everyday :)
[07:20] <apokryphos> the channels shouldn't be a substitute for the man pages or for Google
[07:20] <Xappe> is www.ubuntuforums.org down? can't seem to reach it right now...
[07:20] <Bartimaeus> hmm
[07:20] <Bartimaeus> personally, i beg to differ
[07:20] <thespiritoftal> who invented ubuntu?
[07:20] <tristanmike> Xappe, yes the forums are quite down
[07:20] <Xappe> ok
[07:20] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: Mark Shuttleworth, but it's based on Debian.
[07:21] <lirio> do you speak spanish
[07:21] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: then your personal opinion is wrong :)
[07:21] <tristanmike> apokryphos, damn, you got to it before me =)
[07:21] <thespiritoftal> what are the basic differences with debian and ubuntu?
[07:21] <Bartimaeus> apokryphos:  actually, i just took a detailed look at the main page.  It says nothing useful to someone who already knows nother
[07:21] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: then you should man man
[07:22] <chicken-man> can some one see if my ssh server works  <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:22] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell thespiritoftal about debian
[07:22] <tristanmike> I'd have to agree with Bartimaeus, the man pages are pretty cryptic
[07:22] <Bartimaeus> thankyou
[07:22] <NoUse> learning to understand man pages is one of the best things you can do to understanding linux
[07:22] <apokryphos> Then you should learn to read them; it's not hard.
[07:23] <thespiritoftal> man pages are so simple
[07:23] <apokryphos> mv source destination is cryptic? Hm.
[07:23] <tristanmike> absolutely, the point was for a person who knows nothing, they're cryptic
[07:23] <tristanmike> it just takes time =)
[07:23] <Bartimaeus> well, im 10, and ive had ubuntu on this computer for a grand total of 4 days
[07:23] <chicken-man> can some one see if my ssh server works  <IP_ADDRESS> please
[07:23] <mihai> how can i tell apt-get to remove all direct backward dependencies of mozilla-firefox and redownload them from the repos ?
[07:23] <sean_> wow breezy took my system down :(
[07:23] <apokryphos> tristanmike: I completely disagree; mv source destination is anything but cryptic
[07:23] <landotter> max@ubuntu:~$ man woman | No manual entry for woman
[07:23] <JairunCaloth> I have to agree, man pages used to make me want to cry
[07:24] <hardw1re> sean_: yeah breezy is still way too much in development to use to be honest
[07:24] <hardw1re> stick to hoary
[07:24] <sean_> hardw1re, i was trying to test it for bugs..
[07:24] <landotter> just upgraded to hoary from wary--it's the business. :)
[07:24] <sean_> but it wont even load
[07:24] <dooglus> would someone using 'breezy' please try installing and running 'sysv-rc-conf'.  is it broken?
[07:24] <hardw1re> yeah i used it the other day :|
[07:24] <mihai> chicken-man, seems to work
[07:24] <zer0`> root@ubuntu:/home/kev # man you\! | No manual entry for you!
[07:24] <JairunCaloth> does anyone here use samba much?
[07:24] <hardw1re> but i reinstalled to hoary lol
[07:24] <tristanmike> apokryphos, it's the dots and brackets they use, confusing, was, kinda still is for me
[07:24] <chicken-man> mihai, thanks :P
[07:25] <sean_> but hoary runs great :p
[07:25] <mihai> but i don't know the password :p
[07:25] <chicken-man> mihai, heh :P
[07:25] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64]
[07:25] <Virtuall> ...hello everybody, need help. Installing Ubuntu over Fedora Core 3 (removed everything except /home and /root). Everything installed ok, but on boot it says 'Filesystem has unsopported feature enabled'.  All the more reason to get used to them, and *all* the more reason for me to recommend them
[07:25] <JairunCaloth> when I try to connect to my computer from a windows box, it wants a user name and password, but I can't figure out what to put in
[07:25] <apokryphos> tristanmike: no point having man pages as some type of gremlin for you, if you're using Linux
[07:25] <thespiritoftal> here I am on the road again
[07:25] <Virtuall> (FS type is ext3, and it mounts it as ext3)
[07:26] <ompaul> !tell hardw1re about ask
[07:26] <tristanmike> apokryphos, like I said, I absolutely agree, but they are kinda cryptic if you don't know anything, that's all
[07:26] <hardw1re> ompaul: and the purpose of that was? :P
[07:26] <Virtuall> ...anyone? :(
[07:26] <mihai> ok so can anybody help me fix firefox ? i guess some libs from breezy broked it, how can i reemerge all its dpendencies from hoary
[07:27] <tristanmike> apokryphos, I never said asking questions on the man pages wasn't helpful either ;)
[07:27] <ThxGiving> hi!
[07:27] <theblue> Hi all.
[07:27] <theblue> If I order CDs from Shipit now, will they be Hoary or Breezy CDs?
[07:27] <apokryphos> tristanmike: :)
[07:27] <dooglus> is there a man page that explains that "[ ] " means "optional", "|" means "disjunction", "..." means "one or more times" and so on?
[07:27] <ompaul> hardw1re, ask your specific question and maybe someone can help, but how hard your question is at this time nobody knows  and therefore can't guage if they can reply correctly for you
[07:28] <dooglus> ah - "man man" does just that.
[07:28] <mihai> ok so can anybody help me fix firefox ? i guess some libs from breezy broked it, how can i reemerge all its dpendencies from hoary ? i've modified sources.list to the original, but i still get firefox 1.06 help !
[07:28] <ThxGiving> maybe someone can help me ;)
[07:28] <Virtuall> hey... somebody just has to know what undocumented feature it's talking about
[07:28] <ThxGiving> i try to install package "bootsplash" and "limewire-pro"
[07:28] <Virtuall> :(((
[07:28] <ThxGiving> but
[07:29] <ThxGiving> those packages require a libc6 > 2.2.3.ds1-21
[07:29] <hardw1re> but i dont have a question
[07:29] <hardw1re> im just a humble hoary user on an x86_64 system
[07:29] <ThxGiving> and hoary has ver 2.2.2.ds1-20
[07:29] <mihai> Virtuall, probably ext3 extended attributes or something ?
[07:29] <hardw1re> here to help other people
[07:30] <Virtuall> mihai, i understand that, I don't get which ones exactly
[07:30] <cycom> ThxGiving: so...go download 2.2.3 and install it by hand?
[07:30] <ThxGiving> great idea
[07:30] <mihai> Virtuall, you should ask in #fedora maybe, since it's more like a fedora issue ?
[07:30] <ThxGiving> where can i find the ubuntu deb for this lib version?
[07:30] <Virtuall> ok
[07:30] <Hieronymus> Can somebody help me with dh_make? It gives this error message: "Source file is a bz2 but bzip2 or gzip not available at /usr/bin/dh_make line 409, <STDIN> line 1.
[07:31] <mihai> ok so can anybody help me fix firefox ? i guess some libs from breezy broked it, how can i reemerge all its dpendencies from hoary ? i've modified sources.list to the original, but i still get firefox 1.06 help !
[07:31] <mihai> oops, re apt-get :)
[07:31] <mihai> gentoo got to me
[07:31] <theblue> Heh.
[07:31] <hardw1re> :/
[07:31] <hardw1re> genpoo?
[07:31] <hardw1re> :P
[07:31] <mihai> zentoo
[07:32] <mihai> i predict we will all be using gentoo in a few years
[07:32] <theblue> Meh.
[07:32] <tristanmike> what, it's not Ten-to, it's half past?? :s
[07:32] <hardw1re> i predict, in a few years microsoft will finally give in and actually convert there system over to the linux way of life
[07:33] <mihai> hardw1re, never :)
[07:33] <tristanmike> i predict that windows will fall very hard and very fast
[07:33] <mihai> never
[07:33] <tristanmike> the bigger they are.....
[07:33] <ompaul> tristanmike, however they will try to make linux illegal in the mean time
[07:33] <mihai> because you always have human stupidity and ignorance
[07:33] <theblue> I like tristanmike's idea better.
[07:33] <reiki_work> windows isn't windows because of how good teh product is... it's where it is because of how well it was marketed
[07:33] <theblue> And how stupid people are.
[07:33] <tristanmike> ompaul, I'm afraid they might actually succeed at that
[07:33] <theblue> Hi reiki!
[07:33] <reiki_work> hi The Blue! :)
[07:34] <reiki_work> I'm at work dude... so kinda in and out of here
[07:34] <theblue> I noticed.
[07:34] <reiki_work> oh yeah.... duh
[07:34] <reiki_work> :)
[07:34] <tristanmike> does anybody remember the first Steve Ballmer Windows commercial, "ONLY $99.00"
[07:34] <theblue> :)
[07:34] <theblue> OUCH.
[07:34] <theblue> $99?
[07:34] <tristanmike> lol
[07:34] <reiki_work> tristanmike: how about Chicago!  With Win32C
[07:34] <theblue> I can get 20 Ubuntu CDs FOR FREE.
[07:34] <ThxGiving> how stable is breezy?
[07:34] <theblue> And all the software I want FOR FREE.
[07:34] <mihai> ok so help me if you can,.. how can i re-emerge firefox's dependencies ? and where does apt keep it's downloaded packages
[07:34] <tristanmike> rotfl
[07:35] <tristanmike> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:35] <reiki_work> I still have a Chicago logo somewhere
[07:35] <chicken-man> mihai. reinstall it !
[07:35] <ompaul> ThxGiving, not very, it will be great in octber
[07:35] <reiki_work> :)
[07:35] <theblue> Let's see, M$ rapes me and takes control of my PC, my rights, and my firstborn, and I'm PAYING THEM.
[07:35] <theblue> For $99.
[07:35] <ThxGiving> i mean.. are there any major problems in breezy?
[07:35] <ThxGiving> like gcc4 transition incomplete
[07:35] <tristanmike> Thank You Mr. Shuttleworth and the Ubuntu community
[07:35] <ThxGiving> or many broken packages?
[07:35] <reiki_work> theblue: yeah but when you want to RENEW your license... then it's another $200
[07:35] <theblue> Amen.
[07:35] <theblue> DAMN.
[07:36] <mihai> chicken-man, yeah i did apt-get remove mozilla-firefox apt-get install mozilla-firefox but it gets 1.06 instead of 1.02 which hoary has, because i've updated to breezy and then switched back
[07:36] <mihai> oops, bad idea
[07:36] <theblue> And $35 whenever you need help that's never helpful.
[07:36] <ompaul> ThxGiving, on a day to day basis stuff changes and will continue to, so right this moment you could be okay and in five minutes who knows
[07:36] <theblue> Here, I can just drop in, 24/7 and ask a question, and someone who knows about it is almost always here to help.
[07:36] <dooglus> theblue: I've had no major problems with breezy in the last few months.
[07:36] <theblue> And the wiki is also very useful.
[07:36] <concept10> mihai, hoary has 1.06 now
[07:36] <ThxGiving> ompaul: thanks
[07:37] <theblue> dooglus: I'm just wondering if Shipit CDs ordered now are Breezys.
[07:37] <ompaul> ThxGiving, that five minutes is really a full day long but that is how it is
[07:37] <ThxGiving> ompaul: i need a newer libc6 because of dependencies..
[07:37] <ThxGiving> ompaul: thats why im asking
[07:37] <thespiritoftal> ubuntu works so slow at my computer... but debian works really nice... this means it is not because of Ram or gnome...
[07:37] <mihai> concept10, oh ok then.. but how can i fix it ? i have no text in web pages, just the pictures
[07:37] <dooglus> theblue: I doubt it.  breezy isn't released yet.
[07:37] <mirak> hi
[07:37] <thespiritoftal> can it be about screen settings maybe?
[07:37] <theblue> dooglus: Nevermind.
[07:37] <mirak> is there an easy way to upgrade a ubuntu 32bits tu ubuntu 64 ?
[07:37] <concept10> mihai, my firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050725 Firefox/1.0.4 (Ubuntu package 1.0.6)
[07:37] <ompaul> ThxGiving, why not live with the latest and greatest stable, and then in October you can move forward
[07:38] <tristanmike> if you even want to then, Hoary is so amazing
[07:38] <concept10> mihai, try changing the font/color settings
[07:38] <mirak> is it possible to do a dist-upgrade from ubuntu 32 to ubuntu 64 ?
[07:38] <mihai> concept10, ok, but i want to fix it, i think one of the libs is broken or something, i don't know how to fix it
[07:38] <Hieronymus> I fixed it myself already, had to rename the .tar.bz2 to .tar
[07:38] <Hieronymus> thanks anyways
[07:38] <mihai> concept10, it's not that, it just crashed and since then it's been like that, i can't even see the text on the menus, i'm blind
[07:38] <robodex> forums are down?
[07:39] <tristanmike> robodex, for some time now
[07:39] <mig> Does anybody know if ubuntu/kubuntu runs in a IMac rev. A
[07:39] <robodex> ah, k
[07:39] <concept10> mihai, I still have a copy of the old firefox version if you want to try that package.
[07:39] <theblue> mig: From what I've heard, (K)Ubuntu will only run in a G4 or G5 man.
[07:39] <theblue> mig: mac.
[07:39] <theblue> mig: The original iMac is a G3.
[07:40] <ThxGiving> ompaul: thanks :)
[07:40] <mihai> concept10, it's not the package, it's some of the libs, i want to reemerge the libs, but from the internet, not the local cache
[07:40] <mihai> can i do that ?
[07:41] <mig> thanks. I run yellow dog linux, but I want to go to other more open distros
[07:41] <theblue> mig: No prob.
[07:41] <mig> any recomendations on what distro for the IMac
[07:41] <concept10> mihai, this isnt gentoo, but, you can remove firefox and try to reinstall. you may purge the install
[07:41] <mirak> is it possible to do a dist-upgrade from ubuntu 32 to ubuntu 64 ?
[07:42] <theblue> mig: From what I've heard, Debian might be able to.
[07:42] <mihai> concept10, i already did that a few times
[07:42] <theblue> mig: NetBSD, which isn't quite Linux, but is similiar, will probably run.
[07:42] <mihai> concept10, it;s in the libs somewher
[07:42] <lucas_vignoli> hi, folks, i'm having some trouble with sound on ubuntu, since i've intalled the kernel for k7, my sound isn't working anymore. It's an SI7012. Anyone could help me here please?
[07:42] <_liquidfire> I want to install an external program but i need to compile it from the source its a tar archive
[07:42] <mig> That was my second choice after ubuntu
[07:42] <theblue> mig: You can always check out www.distrowatch.com to see what distros will run on your hardware.
[07:42] <_liquidfire> and source is writtin in python
[07:42] <tristanmike> mirak, I wouldn't think so, that's a pretty hefty change, mobo and processor, and most likely RAM, probably video,
[07:43] <mig> thanks  for the info man
[07:43] <theblue> mig: No problem at all.
[07:43] <theblue> mig: If you want anymore help, just /msg me.
[07:43] <tristanmike> mirak, I wouldn't think you could do it for windows either though.....
[07:43] <mirak> tristanmike: what ?
[07:43] <tristanmike> mirak, os upgrade from 32 to 64
[07:43] <mirak> tristanmike: you know I have just changed cpu and processor
[07:43] <mirak> tristanmike: I use the same ubuntu version
[07:44] <mirak> tristanmike: mmm
[07:44] <tristanmike> mirak, you mean the motherboar and processor
[07:44] <mirak> lus graphic card
[07:44] <mirak> yes
[07:44] <mirak> :)
[07:44] <mihai> anybody know how to start links in graphic mode ?
[07:44] <lucas_vignoli> hi, folks, i'm having some trouble with sound on ubuntu, since i've intalled the kernel for k7, my sound isn't working anymore. It's an SI7012. I'm using Hoary. Anyone could help me here please?
[07:44] <concept10> mihai, what do you get from dpkg -l | grep -i firefox
[07:45] <tristanmike> mirak, I don't know, like I said, I just wouldn't think however, you could be pleasently suprised
[07:45] <mihai> ii  mozilla-firefox                       1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1                  lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
[07:45] <mihai> rc  mozilla-firefox-gnome-support         1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1                  Support for Gnome in Mozilla Firefox
[07:45] <mihai> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb          1.0.1lang20050411ubuntu1-0ubuntu1 Mozilla Firefox English language/region package
[07:46] <jalagus> Is there some default root password or why didn't the install ask me to set it? (sorry for my bad english :P)
[07:46] <ThxGiving> jalagus:
[07:46] <lucas_vignoli> Anyone could help me please with my sound problem?
[07:47] <ThxGiving> sudo passwd root
[07:47] <ThxGiving> or use the expert installer (type expert at boot:)
[07:47] <HappyFool> jalagus: ubuntu does not enable root by default; see link below for more info
[07:47] <jalagus> Ok. Thanks. :)
[07:47] <HappyFool> !sudo
[07:47] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:47] <wiegehts> lucas_vignoli, don't ask to ask, just ask
[07:47] <blight> wiegehts: do or do not, there is no try
[07:48] <Bartimaeus> anyone:  I hav an html file in my www folder, how do i make it so that ppl see the webpage, not the actual code?
[07:48] <mihai> anybody know how to st art links in graphic mode?
[07:48] <noob1> hello.  've got ndiswrapper problems.  Using 5.04 hoary hedgehog
[07:48] <HappyFool> Bartimaeus: if the filename ends in '.html', that should happen automatically
[07:49] <concept10> mihai, I dont know how to fix your problem.. If I were you I would try the old firefox version.  Or check your dependencies http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/web/mozilla-firefox
[07:49] <Bartimaeus> it shows me the actual code, but im am getting at it through virtual server on my router (http://localhost/)  Does that make a difference?
[07:49] <lucas_vignoli> thanks for the tip. okay. i'm using hoary and when i installed the kernel images for k7 the sound stopped working, it's an SI7012, how can i fix it?
[07:50] <lucas_vignoli> I have an Acer Aspire 3002
[07:50] <HappyFool> Bartimaeus: i wouldn't have thought using a router would make any difference. What is the name of the html file?
[07:50] <Virtuall> ...and back from fedora guys. seems like ubuntu doesn't know the resize_inode feature
[07:50] <Virtuall> "what now?"
[07:50] <Bartimaeus> website.html
[07:51] <Bartimaeus> at least, i named it website.html
[07:51] <wiegehts> lucas_vignoli, either the sound module is not being loaded or is not there at all
[07:51] <phantom_> anyone know if there is a way to play multirgion DVDs in Xine??
[07:51] <phantom_> I had remote selector in windows...
[07:52] <Bartimaeus> HappyFool:  the file has a "HTML" written on it when you look at it in nautolis
[07:52] <jalagus> Hmm... Has this useraccount I created in install same privilidges as root?
[07:52] <lucas_vignoli> i don't know how to view wich modules are loaded
[07:52] <jrj_> Is there a simple way to migrate from a Debian testing install to Ubuntu ?
[07:52] <wiegehts> lucas_vignoli, lsmod as root
[07:52] <HappyFool> Bartimaeus: i ahve created a simple /var/www/website.html, and browsed to http://localhost/website.html, and i see the rendered (i.e., not source) html
[07:53] <Bartimaeus> oh
[07:53] <Bartimaeus> ill mmake sure its html
[07:53] <wiegehts> jrj_, copy /home and install ubuntu, copy /home back over
[07:53] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  Do a, "ls /var/www" and see if your document is listed with a, ".html" extension...
[07:53] <jrj_> wiegehts: hehe - yep I tought so
[07:54] <Bartimaeus> how do i change it if it isn't?
[07:54] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  use mv
[07:54] <jrj_> Getting pretty tired of broken Debian packages - even in testing
[07:54] <Bartimaeus> kk
[07:54] <Bartimaeus> ya, its only webpage
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> wiegehts: these are the snd prefixed modules loaded, snd_intel8x0
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_ac97_codec
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_pcm_oss
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_mixer_oss
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_pcm
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_timer
[07:55] <Bartimaeus> tanks
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> snd
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> soundcore
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> snd_page_alloc
[07:55] <HappyFool> lucas_vignoli: please don't paste here
[07:55] <noob1> hello.  've got ndiswrapper problems.  Using 5.04 hoary hedgehog and it says ndiswrapper : unknown fucntion
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> sorry
[07:55] <_liquidfire> http://www.bittornado.com/download.html i have no clue howto install the tar archive
[07:55] <_liquidfire> what command do i need to use
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> can i chat with you?
[07:55] <_liquidfire> ?
[07:55] <wiegehts> lucas_vignoli, sure
[07:55] <HappyFool> noob1: have you read the ndiswrapper page on the wiki?
[07:55] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  ok, so change it to something like, "index.html" or similar...
[07:56] <rapha> Hi all!
[07:56] <rapha> Are there .debs for bonjour? You can't really Google for it ...
[07:56] <HappyFool> _liquidfire: i think bittornado is available in via repositories
[07:56] <_liquidfire> k
[07:56] <_liquidfire> but it would be great if you tell me how to do it in the future
[07:56] <_liquidfire> or is there an howto?
[07:56] <_liquidfire> *a
[07:56] <Bartimaeus> it is now webpage.html, but when you click on the file in the index, it gives the source
[07:57] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  Do this... rename it to, "index.html" and then visit, "http://localhost" and you should see it...
[07:57] <Bartimaeus> thanks
[07:58] <Boy> hi guys
[07:58] <Boy> i was wondering if any of you could help me
[07:58] <malin> hm, i installed quodlibet [from .tar.gz, there wasn't a packet in repository]  and when i want to run it, nothing happens
[07:58] <malin> am i doing something wrong?
[07:58] <HappyFool> _liquidfire: it varies from app to app; usually, you download the .tar.gz file, extract it somewhere useful ( tar xjf filename.tar.bz2 -C ~/build/ ); then go to the src directory, and run './configure' or maybe 'python setup.py' (i think bittornado might be a python app)
[07:58] <Bartimaeus> thanks a lot, that worked
[07:59] <HappyFool> _liquidfire: typically there's a file called INSTALL or README or similar in the tarball telling you what to do
[07:59] <_liquidfire> ah thanks
[07:59] <Boy> whenever i try to compile anything it comes up with and error "configure: error: C compiler cannot make executables."
[07:59] <_liquidfire> :)
[07:59] <Boy> i have all the latest gcc's installed
[08:00] <HappyFool> Boy: have you installed the build-essential package?
[08:00] <rob_p> damn satellite connection  :-(
paste.ubuntulinux.nl now does diffs too when posting corrections, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/f1579 for an example</spam>
[08:01] <Boy> i dont know let me just check
[08:01] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  Did that work?
[08:01] <HappyFool> Seveas: cool. going to be including version control for pastes too? ;)
[08:01] <Bartimaeus> yup
[08:01] <Bartimaeus> thanks a lot
[08:01] <Seveas> HappyFool, *g*
[08:01] <rapha> Hello anybody?
[08:01] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  Cool!
[08:01] <Seveas> no, i'm gonna do syntax highlighting now
[08:01] <rapha> Am I being received?
[08:02] <Seveas> rapha, not really, there's a lot of noise in your signal :)
[08:02] <Ben_P> rapha: indeed you are
[08:02] <HappyFool> rapha: theren't aren't any bonjour debs in the ubuntu repositories that i can see; you can check on packages.ubuntu.com if you want
[08:02] <bluefoxicy> oh god they broke rhythmbox in breezy
[08:03] <sean_> breezy is broke :p it crashed my system
[08:03] <iiiears> there is always xmms :/
[08:03] <rapha> Thanks Seveas, Ben_P, HappyFool!
[08:03] <noob1> hello.  've got ndiswrapper problems.  Using 5.04 hoary hedgehog and it says ndiswrapper : unknown fucntion
[08:03] <rapha> :-)
[08:03] <Seveas> noob1, install the ndiswrapper-utils package
[08:03] <HappyFool> Seveas: i'm sure you have ideas how, but if it helps, i think viewcvs uses enscript
[08:03] <rapha> HappyFool: Actually I've been trying to install libsipphone from http://www.gizmoproject.com/download/libsipphoneapi_0.78.20050817.1-1_i386.deb and it requires bonjour...
[08:03] <g0su> hi all
[08:04] <iiiears> hi
[08:04] <Seveas> there's a PEAR class for syntax highlighting
[08:04] <Seveas> just like for diffs
[08:04] <g0su> one question please, the channel for ubuntu ppc?
[08:04] <sean_> sure is :)0
[08:04] <Seveas> g0su, this one
[08:05] <g0su> ok thx, i am not sure if the plataform ppc have a specific channel
[08:05] <malin> I installed quodlibet [from .tar.gz, there wasn't a packet in repository]  and when i want to run it, nothing happens
[08:05] <malin> am i doing something wrong?
[08:05] <Seveas> no it has not, we're all one big family :)
[08:05] <GoClick> I uncommented the extras line in the sources.list file and ran sudo apt-get update and this was the result I got 404 errors, wget also gets 404 errors and firefox does not so I assume it's a redirect. Here is the result http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1583
[08:06] <hmrocha> hello
[08:06] <hmrocha> i need some help
[08:07] <lucas_vignoli> my sound stopped working since i've installed the k7 kernel image, and know... even when i boot from the i386 it doesn't work anymore.
[08:07] <hmrocha> i'm mounting a directory with nfs
[08:07] <hmrocha> but the mount takes a long time
[08:07] <Seveas> GoClick, looks like publicmirror ditched hoary-extras...
[08:07] <deacon> Greetings!
[08:07] <rouven> hi. where do i get the nvidia-kernel-module for breezy?
[08:07] <Seveas> delete it from your sources again
[08:07] <hmrocha> it mounts the remote directory, but it takes a lot of time
[08:07] <hmrocha> what might be happening?
[08:07] <deacon> How is everybody today?
[08:08] <GoClick> Seveas, so why didn't burner have a problem connecting, that said wouldn't everyone be hooped now AND how can we fix this?
[08:08] <iiiears> nvidia-glx?
[08:08] <GoClick> deacon,  stressed, you?
[08:08] <Seveas> hmrocha, I'm experiencing the same om my machines. I solved it at work on a cluster but forgot to copy the settings. PLease msg me tomorrow when I will have them
[08:08] <deacon> Eh, could be better.  I can't log into my ubuntu at all
[08:08] <hmrocha> Seveas, i just tried running dmesg
[08:08] <hey2k5> hello
[08:08] <rouven> hmrocha: do you have the portmapper running?
[08:09] <HappyFool> any suggestions for a simple embedded linux distribution? something sans all the usual services (cron, mail etc) -- i'm wondering if it's easiest just to build my own
[08:09] <hmrocha> Seveas, i have some lines reporting "RPC: failed to contact portmap"
[08:09] <Seveas> hmm
[08:09] <rouven> nvidia-glx doesn't contain the module, neither does linux-restricted-modules.
[08:09] <hmrocha> rouven, if ubuntu doesn't run it by default, i don't have it
[08:09] <GoClick> HappyFool, will the embeded device have [Internet] work access?
[08:09] <hmrocha> Seveas, maybe that's our problem, not running portmap
[08:09] <Seveas> I'm running portmap
[08:09] <rouven> then you have to install it yourself.
[08:09] <hey2k5> can anyone tell me how I can get the "ndiswrapper-utils" package for warty? I have a wireless card, so I can't download "ndiswrapper-utils" via apt-get, i'm in windows.
[08:09] <deacon> If anyone here familiar with the issue of: Cannot log into ubuntu under runlevel 5?  I just get kicked back to the login screen.
[08:09] <HappyFool> GoClick: err, some specialized network only (canbus, i think)
[08:10] <Seveas> there's something icky: you really have to tune the parameters on the server
[08:10] <g0su> mmm please one little question, for change the clock utc for local? i move the two service hardware clock too stop(SXXlll -> K20lll) and edit one link(ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid /etc/localtime what it don't works(2h. different between ubuntu and mac ox)
[08:10] <Seveas> and I copied them from the network admins at work ;)
[08:10] <hey2k5> is there someway to know the address of a package, so I can download it without apt-get
[08:10] <GoClick> HappyFool, you might want to just roll your own, there gentoo, it's a metadistro it's a good starting place if you can.
[08:10] <apokryphos> hey2k5: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:10] <lucas_vignoli> my sound stopped working since i've installed the k7 kernel image, and know... even when i boot from the i386 it doesn't work anymore. When i installed hoary it worked out of the box. My card is a SI7012. esdsink is the only sink that doesn't returns error, but alsasink and osssink returns error!
[08:11] <HappyFool> GoClick: cool, thanks.
[08:11] <GoClick> Seveas, So is there a way I can get extras if the plantmirror dumped them?
[08:11] <apokryphos> hey2k5: though, you can use apt-get to download, and just tell it to not unpack/install
[08:11] <Tadej> ok
[08:11] <rouven> breezy uses nfs4, so you also have to pass the mount option nfsvers=3, if you want to access a nfs3 server.
[08:11] <Tadej> uzivaj
[08:11] <Tadej> sorry
[08:11] <Seveas> GoClick, other urls can be found at backports.ubuntuforums.org
[08:11] <apokryphos> Seveas: JRE pack was taken out of hoary-extras?
[08:11] <rouven> nobody with a nvidia graphics board on breezy?
[08:12] <HappyFool> lucas_vignoli: have you looked at the debugging sound page on the wiki?
[08:12] <Seveas> apokryphos, is that so?
[08:12] <apokryphos> rouven: many
[08:12] <apokryphos> Seveas: yeah; been wondering why, but no worries.
[08:12] <derFlo> hi
[08:12] <Seveas> apokryphos, JRE/J2SDK can be found at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl too :)
[08:12] <fl> did one of you you ever see boot issues with isolinux when using CD-RW as opposed to CD-R?
[08:12] <rouven> apokryphos, do you run nv or nvidia?
[08:12] <apokryphos> Seveas: excellent; I'll recommend that for now
[08:12] <apokryphos> nvidia
[08:12] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: i've looked into another wikipages related to sound, but not this noe
[08:13] <Seveas> apokryphos, that thing is not online 24/7, so tell that too :)
[08:13] <derFlo> i'm trying to make a multi boot DVD, putting ubuntu-install, ubuntu-live and debian-netinst on it using isolinux
[08:13] <hey2k5> thanks apokryphos, am going through it, I found the package, would I be able to download the .deb package? i'm looking around, can find the .deb download link..
[08:13] <derFlo> my problem: all of them have a "pool" directory
[08:13] <Seveas> derFlo, these dvds can be downloaded from ubuntu mirrors...
[08:13] <deacon> I seem to be unable to log into my Ubuntu.  When i try to log in it startts the login, then the screen flickers, then I get kicked back to the login page.  Can anyone help me?
[08:13] <g0su> Any know the option for change the UTC clock to local clock?
[08:13] <rouven> apokryphos, how did you get the binary only module into your kernel, i.e., which package does contain the module?
[08:13] <Seveas> derFlo, find one at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:13] <derFlo> can I use another dir, and if yes how
[08:13] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: Shall i look at it and return here if the errors persists?
[08:14] <derFlo> Seveas: also Debian?
[08:14] <Crube> Are the ubuntu forums down?
[08:14] <hardw1re> deacon: when u say kicked back, is that kicked back to a graphical or text screen?
[08:14] <hmrocha> rouven, thanks very much, it worked great
[08:14] <apokryphos> hey2k5: you can, yes. Choose to browse packages
[08:14] <deacon> graphical
[08:14] <hmrocha> rouven, i wasn't running portmapper :)
[08:14] <derFlo> I also want to put Win (BartPE) on it
[08:14] <hajiki> how can i disabled ipv6 from being used in networking
[08:14] <rouven> hmrocha, you're welcome.
[08:14] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: i thought that topic were for developers.
[08:14] <apokryphos> rouven: I just used the nvidia-glx provided; works fine here
[08:14] <derFlo> Saveas: I'll have a look, thx
[08:15] <deacon> hardw1re: I just get dumped back to the graphical login
[08:15] <apokryphos> rouven: might use the drivers from the site soon though; had some problems with composite
[08:15] <Crube> Anyone else having trouble connecting to ubuntu forums?
[08:15] <apokryphos> Crube: yes, they're down apparently
[08:16] <rouven> apokryphos, how do you call the driver in xorg.conf
[08:16] <fl> did someone here _ever_ use a CD-RW instead of a CD-R?
[08:16] <Crube> Ok just wanted to make sure I'm not the only one thanks.
[08:16] <JairunCaloth> I did one time....
[08:16] <hey2k5> apokrypho, I can only find files for download ending with *.gz @ http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/misc/ndiswrapper-utils
[08:16] <HappyFool> hmm. that was weird. either emacs crashed or i inadvertently switched desktops.
[08:17] <mjr> hmh, where did gdm store the user's session and language choices?
[08:17] <fl> JairunCaloth, and?
[08:17] <apokryphos> rouven: easiest way is to use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:17] <JairunCaloth> Honestly, I think CD-RW's are a big waste of time for the most part. Unless you do a backup like every day or something
[08:17] <rob_p> deacon:  Check your system logs and see if there are any clues in there.  I suspect an authentication problem or similar but that's just a guess...
[08:17] <apokryphos> hey2k5: you can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicks in IRC :)
[08:17] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: i've certified myself lots of times if the mixer wasn't muted
[08:17] <apokryphos> hey2k5: are you looking to download a .deb?
[08:17] <JairunCaloth> You have to format a CD-RW when you want to re-write it
[08:17] <JairunCaloth> I'd just rather burn a new CD-R
[08:18] <fl> hmm. why "waste of time"? Because they are a compat nightmare?
[08:18] <fl> I just hate it to blow a CD-R I know I only use once.
[08:18] <HappyFool> lucas_vignoli: apologies; if you said much to me earlier, i'm afraid i probably missed it
[08:18] <apokryphos> fl: they cost like 15p here :P
[08:18] <Jhair> ls
[08:18] <apokryphos> same price as a Lolipop
[08:18] <hey2k5> oh apokryphos, i figured it out now. I had to click on the i386 link under Architecture to download the deb file.
[08:18] <JairunCaloth> Fl, CD-r's are cheaper than rw's too
[08:18] <fl> cost it not my problem. Wasting resources is.
[08:18] <apokryphos> hey2k5: precisely, yes :)
[08:19] <deacon> rob_p:  That's just it.  I CAN log into a terminal session.  Just not normal Gnome or failsafe Gnome.  They just dump me back to the login screen.  It's almost as if I'm being logged immediately out as soon as I log in.
[08:19] <HappyFool> lucas_vignoli: ok, so you're certain sound is not muted? And you don't here any sounds at all?
[08:19] <apokryphos> fl: you should be more worried about the power stations kept running by the usage of your computer :)
[08:19] <iiiears> fl - grab an external usb hard drive box. - gigs of portable  storage from old otherwise useless drives.
[08:19] <rob_p> deacon:  go to the terminal and view your system logs...
[08:19] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: don't worry, can i chat with you about something i think it is a bug an UI bug?
[08:19] <JairunCaloth> I'm not saying don't use cd-rw's I"m just saying that I never bother with them
[08:19] <JairunCaloth> Most of the stuff I put on CD's, I want it to stay on the CD
[08:19] <hey2k5> thanks for your help, i found file ending with *.gz, so I was looking for one ending with *.deb, didn't realised i386 was linked, i thought it was only bold text
[08:19] <JairunCaloth> So for me a CD-RW is impractical
[08:20] <deacon> ok, how do I do that again?
[08:20] <malin> is there any other Direct Connect client than dcgui?
[08:20] <fl> apokryphos, go figure: the CD-Rs just started piling up so bad, that I use practically only CD-Rs now. I had about 200 CD-Rs lying around.
[08:20] <tristanmike> fl, how do you catalog those
[08:20] <rob_p> deacon:  ... as in, ctrl-alt-f1 and then login at the prompt and view your logs...
[08:20] <apokryphos> hey2k5: seriously though, the easiest way to get a .deb you want is to just   sudo apt-get -d install {somepackage}
[08:20] <deacon> yeah, ,I am in the terminal, i just don't know how to view the logs
[08:21] <deacon> *embarrased*
[08:21] <fl> tristanmike, the CD-Rs? By writing on the surface and letting the intern sift through the mess...
[08:21] <rob_p> deacon:  they are located in /var/log
[08:21] <apokryphos> hey2k5: that will automatically download it to /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:21] <iiiears> fl - lol - the same here folio's piled 2 feet high filled with hundreds of mp3 cd's
[08:21] <apokryphos> hey2k5: ...but it won't do anything else; i.e. it won't unpack or install it.
[08:21] <tristanmike> fl, lol
[08:21] <rob_p> deacon:  /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog are typical files of interest...
[08:21] <JairunCaloth> Heh, I'm planning on numbering my CD-r's and building a searchable database I've got so many laying around
[08:21] <rob_p> deacon:  dmesg is good too!
[08:21] <JairunCaloth> just do a search for the program/song I'm looking for, and it tells me what cd it's on
[08:21] <tristanmike> fl, but seriously, do you know of any catalog programs for linux?
[08:22] <fl> iiiears, sounds familiar. I found even the pile of RedHat 6.1 betas. Twentyish or so.
[08:22] <iiiears> lol
[08:22] <apokryphos> cheaper/better
[08:22] <fl> tristanmike, no, sorry, I don't. My problem was that we usually used them once, and when the install went ok, the next beta rolled around. Never really needed to get them after that.
[08:22] <deacon> ok, got it up (funny, gedit runs.)
[08:22] <JairunCaloth> I still use CD's some times
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> like to burn a cd I can listen to in my car
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> or something else that dosn't need a whole DVD
[08:23] <hey2k5> apokryphos, i would have done that, but you know I have a wireless card supported under windows only so am unable to have internet access in ubuntu, gotta install this ndiswrapper on there to make it work, so that's why I was asking for this package location to download it on windows, and then will go to linux to install it...
[08:23] <fl> JairunCaloth, how backwards ;-) ipod your BMW!
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> plus cd's burn 100 times faster than dvds
[08:23] <deacon> weird.  I'm getting errors:  /homd/deacon is not owned by UID 1000
[08:23] <hey2k5> time to get back to linux
[08:23] <tristanmike> fl, fair enough, I've been having a damn hard time trying to find one, kinda strange.
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> I'm poor,
[08:23] <apokryphos> hey2k5: I understand =)
[08:23] <fl> the new BMW 1 even has an aux input
[08:24] <sataere> Hey everyone, is there a way I could prevent Ubuntu from setting up the network when it starts up?  I am using a cisco card to get online, but it tries to set up the network before loading the drivers.  I have to manually C-c the network config, or else it would just stick there all day.  I have no problem getting online at all, but the hang on startup is annoying.
[08:24] <fl> JairunCaloth, ok, sorry. But you could use something like the iTrip
[08:24] <fl> now that's cool.
[08:24] <rob_p> deacon:  what did you do prior to not being able to login properly?
[08:24] <fl> and it beats having CDs
[08:24] <robert_> is the forum down or something?
[08:24] <JairunCaloth> nah, cd's work fine for me
[08:24] <deacon> Tried to install cedega
[08:24] <JairunCaloth> I'd rather have a mp3 cd player than an ipod anyways
[08:25] <rouven> apokryphos, reconfiguring xserver-xorg is nice, but my system still lacks nvidia.ko. where did you get that from?
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> I can bring all my music and listen to it all
[08:25] <tristanmike> sataere, unplug your ethernet cord when installling??
[08:25] <deacon> and point2play
[08:25] <rob_p> deacon:  'cause /home/deacon should be owned by deacon and in group deacon...
[08:25] <apokryphos> rouven: did you install nvidia-glx?
[08:25] <iiiears> ipod - hm. - suddenly car multi cd players sound quaint. - grin
[08:25] <sataere> tristanmike, It's never been plugged in.
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> instead of just what I can fit on an ipod
[08:25] <GoClick> I've seen the wiki page on Java, I uncommended the line for the extras and planetmirror gave 404s, then I tried the ubuntuforums mirror and still can't find any packageswith j2re or sun- in the name
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> How about a 10 cd changer that will play mp3 cds
[08:25] <rouven> yes. i did. it only contains nvidi_drv.o, not the kernel driver.
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> ipod = pwned
[08:25] <apokryphos> rouven: I don't have nvidia.ko
[08:25] <fl> coming back to the CD-R question: anyone ever had funny boot problems with CD-R? I'm pretty much prepared to blame it on the CDROM drive, _but_ the FC{1,2,3,4} and a host of others just worked fine...
[08:26] <caliminus> how about a 10 dvd changer supporting mp3
[08:26] <tristanmike> sataere, oh, i see, sorry
[08:26] <rouven> could you do sudo lsmod|grep nvidia?
[08:26] <apokryphos> rouven: erm, no wait... I do. Hm.
[08:26] <sataere> transgress, no prob
[08:26] <sataere> tristanmike, no prob
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> lol caliminus I see we are thinking along the same lines
[08:26] <rob_p> deacon:  That's why your X session is dumping you back to the login... your home directory is not accessible  and can't be written to apparently...
[08:26] <sataere> transgress, sorry :(
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> oh dvd, nice
[08:26] <caliminus> got like 1000 dvd
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> that would be some major mp3 space
[08:27] <apokryphos> rouven: nvidia               3711172  12  (among other lines)
[08:27] <caliminus> 500 double side
[08:27] <JairunCaloth> why won't this friken game work!
[08:27] <apokryphos> rouven: nvidia.ko should come with your kernel
[08:27] <kenny> hi guys
[08:27] <apokryphos> rouven: linux-restricted-modules
[08:27] <Seveas> hi kenny
[08:27] <Flonne> sataere, I believe you can just remove the 'auto' line from /etc/network/interfaces, which should be what the network configuration utility under Gnome does when you deactive a card.
[08:27] <kenny> i need help with a plugin
[08:28] <fl> hmm. I just can't believe that noone ever uses CD-RW (any more). That's probably what Kernigham/Ritchie said when PHP came out...
[08:28] <Seveas> plugin for what?
[08:28] <sataere> Flonne, thanks I'll try that
[08:28] <kenny> i need to find gstreamer-muse plugin but cant find it
[08:28] <fl> or rather Larry Wall
[08:28] <JairunCaloth> I own one CD-RW and I don't think it's ever been re writen
[08:28] <kenny> hi seveas
[08:28] <apokryphos> kenny: gstreamer0.8-musepack
[08:28] <rouven> apokryphos, linux-restricted-modules only contains .o files, no .ko.
[08:28] <ompaul> when given a url with a pdf how do I get it to open in firefox as opposed to wget http://www.foo.whatever/some.pdf
[08:28] <kenny> yea thats what i need but i cant find it
[08:28] <JairunCaloth> CD-r's are way cheaper than CD-RW's and they burn faster
[08:29] <JairunCaloth> and they read in more stuff
[08:29] <rouven> apokryphos, how am is upposed to load that driover?
[08:29] <apokryphos> rouven: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_contents.pl?version=breezy&arch=i386&case=insensitive&word=nvidia.ko&searchmode=searchfiles
[08:29] <kenny> i have 0.8.10 but it wont install
[08:29] <fl> JairunCaloth, why do I get the feeling we turn in circles :-)
[08:29] <sataere> Boy I miss rc-update
[08:29] <kenny> i only have one song in mcp format and rhythembox dosnt play it
[08:29] <HappyFool> ompaul: i think the acroread-plugin might be what you want (in multiverse)
[08:29] <apokryphos> kenny: what's the error?
[08:29] <fl> ok, have a nice day guys. gotta make the wife happy.
[08:30] <Flonne> sataere, you'll get used to it soon enough. :)
[08:30] <iiiears> fl - "Take out the trash"? - silly grin
[08:30] <kenny> dependency problems prevent configuration of gstreamer0.8-musepack
[08:30] <derFlo> ok, I have an idea
[08:30] <rouven> apokryphos, argh! i'm running 2.6.12 (banging my head against the wall right now)
[08:30] <Julia1> Anyone here have experience running anjuta?
[08:30] <apokryphos> rouven: heh, I shoulda checked that first :P
[08:30] <rouven> apokryphos, so let's downgrade.
[08:30] <rouven> apokryphos, not your fault at all.
[08:30] <kenny> what version do i need to install and were can i get it
[08:31] <rouven> apokryphos, thanks for the massive help.
[08:31] <ompaul> HappyFool, think I may have broken system eariler :(
[08:31] <ZZco> fine
[08:31] <HappyFool> ompaul: doh
[08:31] <ompaul> HappyFool, I will get it in a little bit :)
[08:31] <ZZco> if you don't get off my nickname
[08:31] <ZZco> I'm killing you
[08:31] <ZZco> lol
[08:31] <kenny> guys? any suggestions
[08:31] <apokryphos> rouven: there's problems with graphics drivers in breezy kernels, altogether, and moreso in ATI than nvidia :|
[08:31] <kenny> iv tried looking at ubuntu forums but i think that is down
[08:32] <rouven> apokryphos, does it run stable on yopur system?
[08:32] <rouven> s/yopour/on your
[08:32] <apokryphos> rouven: breezy? As of late, yes -- reasonably stable.
[08:33] <rouven> apokryphos, the nvidia driver, to be exact.
[08:33] <kenny> this is the version i have gstreamer0.8-musepack_0.8.10-1ubuntu7_i386
[08:33] <kenny> is that the correct one
[08:33] <deacon> rob_p:  ok, so how do I fix that
[08:33] <apokryphos> kenny: that looks fine, yes.
[08:33] <rob_p> deacon:  Well, for starters, your home directory should be owned by you!
[08:33] <apokryphos> kenny: could you paste.ubuntulinux.nl the error output?
[08:33] <deacon> right.  how do I fix that?
[08:34] <kenny> k
[08:34] <deacon> chown 1000 /home/deacon???
[08:34] <apokryphos> rouven: sorry -- yes, fairly. Though I'm still having problems with Composite
[08:34] <rob_p> deacon:  chown it as in, chown deacon.deacon /home/deacon
[08:34] <deacon> right
[08:34] <kenny> iv pasted it what do i do
[08:35] <Julia1> No one worked with Anjuta?  I've been seeing the same issue with it as with some other things I've tried to do.  I get "Unable to load plugin /usr/local/lib/anjuta/*.so.  Error: "GetDescr": /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: GetDescr"
[08:35] <kenny> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1585
[08:35] <rob_p> deacon:  As far as I know, you should be able to do a recursive chown with the -R switch.  I think that would be safe since all the files below /home/deacon should be owned by you... someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[08:35] <HappyFool> Julia1: did you install using apt (synaptic, apt-get, etc.) ?
[08:35] <kenny> can you see the error message apokryphos
[08:35] <Julia1> apt.
[08:36] <apokryphos> kenny: yup; one sec
[08:36] <kenny> k
[08:36] <Julia1> I also have installed the fgxrl ati drivers.
[08:36] <deacon> Excellent!  I'm in!
[08:36] <deacon> thanks!
[08:36] <kenny> i think i need 0.8 and not 0.8.10
[08:37] <rob_p> deacon:  no prob.  Have fun :-)
[08:37] <apokryphos> kenny: hm, are you not using apt for this?
[08:37] <Julia1> I get several error messages for various plugins in /usr/local/lib/anjuta
[08:37] <jpfarias> hey people
[08:37] <HappyFool> Julia1: i don't think the ati drivers make a difference. i don't use anjuta, but it surprising that it is looking in /usr/local
[08:37] <kenny> iv tried apt but it dosnt have muse pack in it
[08:37] <apokryphos> kenny: it doesn't actually seem to be in the hoary repos
[08:38] <apokryphos> kenny: Yes, only in Breezy I guess
[08:38] <kenny> so i used breezy, which i know is stupid
[08:38] <jpfarias> is there any link on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:38] <apokryphos> kenny: you're on breezy? :/
[08:38] <kenny> no im on horay
[08:38] <hussam> Help, when I do locate something, I get /var/lib/slocate.db: permission denied
[08:38] <kenny> lol
[08:38] <kenny> I know its stupid
[08:38] <apokryphos> kenny: but added the breezy repository? Or, just got the breezy pack?
[08:38] <Julia1> these libs exist where it's looking.
[08:39] <apokryphos> kenny: you will cause problems if you do that
[08:39] <kenny> i just download the file
[08:39] <kenny> yea i know thats why i didnt add breezy to apt
[08:39] <kenny> i though it would be ok
[08:40] <apokryphos> Thing is, without apt you'll likely get dependency hell (as you have). But if you really need it, then you should compile
[08:40] <jpfarias> is there any links on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:40] <apokryphos> kenny: what does it do?
[08:40] <kenny> I dont really need it, i only have one song encoded in mpc
[08:40] <kenny> what does what do?
[08:41] <kenny> may i be able to convert the mpc to ogg
[08:42] <paulproteus> Anyone here use Jabber?  I'm trying to test my new Jabber ID<EMAIL_ADDRESS>.  It'd be great if someone would IM me so I know it's all working.
[08:43] <malin> I installed quodlibet [from .tar.gz, there wasn't a packet in repository]  and when i want to run it, nothing happens
[08:43] <malin> am i doing something wrong?
[08:43] <paulproteus> kenny: You should convert the MPC to FLAC and let that be that.
[08:43] <paulproteus> malin: You should install it from Breezy.
[08:43] <paulproteus> That's the easiest way.
[08:43] <haakonn> paulproteus: i think you can add<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it's a chat bot :)
[08:43] <kenny> What do i need to convert it, muse-tools aint in apt either
[08:43] <malin> can you tell me a bit more about breezy?
[08:43] <kenny> i guess mplayer could do it
[08:44] <iiiears> ubotu breezy is?
[08:44] <ubotu> iiiears: Wish i knew
[08:44] <iiiears> ubotu breezy
[08:44] <ubotu> [breezy]  the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[08:44] <paulproteus> haakonn: Okay, that's a start; I want to make sure inter-domain routing works, too, though.
[08:44] <malin> hm
[08:44] <paulproteus> malin: Go to packages.ubuntu.com, find quodlibet, and install the package from Breezy.
[08:44] <poe-t> hi! did anyone successfully restricted FreWnn server to localhost only in ubuntu?
[08:44] <paulproteus> It will probably require dependencies you don't have.
[08:44] <paulproteus> That's okay, then use Synaptic or aptitude to install the dependencies.
[08:45] <paulproteus> And then quodlibet should work fine.
[08:45] <WindowsDependant> hello linux won't recognize my printer
[08:45] <kenny> i have Musepack (MPC) format library can i use that
[08:46] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, http://localhost:631
[08:46] <moire> hi
[08:46] <WindowsDependant> can i just take all the files off of the cd and put them in my home dir?
[08:46] <moire> is the packet gnome-audio corrupt?
[08:46] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: what is that?
[08:47] <adriyel> hi everyone
[08:47] <WindowsDependant> can i get some help with my printer?
[08:47] <WindowsDependant> should i use ndiswrapper?
[08:47] <^guy27> i want to install ubuntu on an existing windows xp partition. The only way is to partition it by partition magic?
[08:48] <WindowsDependant> yes if you have the entire drive being used by windows
[08:48] <jpfarias> hello? is there any links on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:48] <moire> guy27: no, you can change the partitions on startup of the install script :)
[08:48] <^guy27> ic tought maybe there was another way
[08:48] <adriyel> guy27, you can use qtparted to resize the NTFS partition
[08:48] <adriyel> it will let you create room for Linux
[08:49] <SAMU> can you resize an NTFS partition during the install process?
[08:49] <adriyel> I don't think so, no
[08:49] <adriyel> #ubuntu doesn't use qtparted
[08:49] <adriyel> erm, ubuntu
[08:49] <adriyel> lol
[08:49] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, oh.. they moved it to System > Administer > Printing in gnome
[08:49] <^guy27> ok understood
[08:49] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: what about it?
[08:49] <SAMU> is qtparted a windows program then?
[08:49] <^guy27> so the only is by partition magic
[08:50] <adriyel> ^guy27, no its not
[08:50] <^guy27> the only way
[08:50] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, setup your printer thru gnome configuration dialogue
[08:50] <tristanmike> SAMU, are installing Hoary?
[08:50] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: ok
[08:50] <SAMU> tristanmike, im planning to put it on my laptop after i can backup all the necessary files
[08:50] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: brb
[08:51] <tristanmike> SAMU, on a PC laptop i assume
[08:51] <iiiears> "Volume Control" toggle "Capture from audio device" - Where is the audio file saved?
[08:51] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, up2date printing system is "cups". it has a huge database of printers. should be ok
[08:51] <^guy27> i saw that qtparted is a partition magic clone
[08:51] <SAMU> tristanmike: im gonna do a dualboot and i am gonna use my laptops winXP "recovery" discs to reinstall windows first
[08:51] <jpfarias> hello? is there any links on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:52] <tristanmike> SAMU, the Hoary installer does do resizing
[08:52] <SAMU> im just not sure what options the recovery discs give you for setting the size of the partition
[08:52] <dooglus> how can I set up iptables to allow me to mount an smbfs partition?
[08:52] <dooglus> it seems to need a different port each time I do it.
[08:52] <WindowsDependant> also is there any reason why my ubuntu freezes ALOT!?
[08:52] <SAMU> i hear they reset your computer to the way it was when you got it. so i assume that means i will get a fresh XP install on a partition that fills the whole HD.
[08:52] <iiiears> Can i use a command to tell what files are open?
[08:53] <rob_p> dooglus:  this implies that you are running some sort of a firewall then?
[08:53] <dooglus> rob_p: Linux has a built in firewall
[08:53] <SAMU> but what i want to do is install windows on a smaller partition. and give the rest to ubuntu.
[08:53] <dooglus> rob_p: iptables is built into the kernel
[08:53] <tristanmike> SAMU, i don't have a laptop and have never delt with recovery disks, so I'm not sure, but the install does do partitioning if you wish
[08:53] <WindowsDependant> do u have anything important on ur windows partition right now?
[08:54] <WindowsDependant> what kind of a windows cd do u have? recovery cds or an actual windows xp cd
[08:54] <rob_p> dooglus:  Well, it has a tool (iptables) that is used for configuring the kernel's ability to filter packets, but by default there are no rules specified...
[08:54] <tristanmike> SAMU, i'll be interested in finding out your answer too because a laptop is my near future and this is actually one of the things that I was curious about.
[08:54] <SAMU> tristanmike, but if i have a 60GB HD and the XP partition is taking up the whole HD. can i resize that partition through the ubuntu installer. cant remember what options i got for partitionin when i installed on my desktop PC.
[08:54] <dooglus> rob_p: is it possible to specify a rule to allow me to mount smbfs shares?
[08:55] <iiiears> SAMU - Some have had great luck sharing a hard drive with windows. - installing ubuntu to a second drive seems better. no problems later when windows needs to be reinstalled
[08:55] <dooglus> rob_p: I already specified a rule to drop all incoming packets, but I want to be able to mount smb shares
[08:55] <SAMU> tristanmike, remember to ask me in the future then. I am just waiting for my DVD burner so i can backup what i need from this HD first.
[08:55] <rob_p> dooglus:  This means that unless you specifically set the policies and/or specified any rules to disallow, then there is no packet filtering going on.
[08:55] <SAMU> iiiears, yeah, but i only have on disk on this laptop. i have a dualboot on two drives on my desktop which works very nicely already.
[08:55] <tristanmike> SAMU, yes, you can resize with the Hoary installer, just be sure to scandisk/defrag first. As to the "recovery disks" I assume have been provide by the manufacturer, I've never seen one, so I don't know
[08:55] <rob_p> dooglus:  Oh, that explains it.
[08:56] <jpfarias> hey, guys, is there any links on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:56] <WindowsDependant> SAMU: who are the cds from hp?
[08:56] <josch> hi
[08:56] <SAMU> its the ones i got with my acer travelmate 430
[08:56] <WindowsDependant> also what kind of mice do u guys have in here that work well with ubuntu?
[08:56] <josch> is there a german channel?
[08:56] <rob_p> dooglus:  Ok, the information you need is that windows networking uses ports 137-139 and port 445.
[08:56] <SAMU> i think they are supposed to prevent you from installing windows on any PC.
[08:56] <darkheart> !de
[08:56] <ubotu> hmm... de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[08:56] <josch> tnx
[08:57] <f_newton> quick question... is there a place to see what the upcoming apps to be included in breezy are?
[08:57] <josch> hatte _de
[08:57] <Nevado> anyone having trouble getting on the ubuntu forums?
[08:57] <WindowsDependant> anybody that is using ubuntu what kind of mouse do u have?\
[08:57] <WindowsDependant> and is it possible to use a serial mouse in ubuntu?
[08:57] <dooglus> rob_p: I see an incoming connection on port 33288.
[08:58] <dooglus> rob_p: this morning it was on port 33546.
[08:58] <dooglus> rob_p: it seems to keep changing.
[08:58] <Tripp> Hey, i'm new to linux, does anyone know how to install pengaol, aka penggy?
[08:58] <tristanmike> *cough*microsoft*cough* optical mouse
[08:58] <asfra> hi, I'm really hoping someone can give me a tips here :) I've just installed ubuntu on a machine I can't connect to the wireless network here. I therefor want to connect it to another machine which is connected to the internet so I can download some packages. How do I do this the easiest way?
[08:58] <benkong2> ubotu, why does ndiswrapper fail after a kernel upgrade? I have an AMD64 running 386 and wanted to use the k7 kernel but qemu and ndiswrapper went wild and the machine freezes when trying to display the desktop.
[08:58] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, benkong2
[08:58] <f_newton> asfra what wifi card are you using?
[08:58] <tristanmike> Nevado, forums are down
[08:58] <cavediver> Hi. How can I resize images within AbiWord? I can't drag it like is ms word...
[08:59] <benkong2> ubotu, ok
[08:59] <ubotu> Not a clue, benkong2
[08:59] <rob_p> dooglus:  That doesn't seem to correspond with anything I've ever seen relating to windows networking traffic...
[08:59] <f_newton> benkong2, every kernel is specific... you will have to reinstall ndiswrapper
[09:00] <malin> how do i install a .deb file i downloaded?
[09:00] <f_newton> dooglus that seems more to do with illegal traffic
[09:00] <f_newton> dpkg -i
[09:00] <f_newton> malin
[09:00] <asfra> f_newton: my wifi-card is working just fine on one machine. But I don't have a wifi-card on the other so I've connected them throught a cabel and want the machine without the wifi-card to connect to the internet througt the other... if you understand :)
[09:00] <benkong2> f_newton, that would be good but I can't get to the desktop...guess I could log in to a terminal and try to reinstall
[09:00] <Tripp> Anyone know how to install pengaol, anyone?
[09:00] <malin> thanks f_newton
[09:01] <f_newton> asfra... if you use a cat5 or 6 cable to connect to another machine directly without the use of a router you need a special patch cable
[09:01] <ompaul> benkong2, ubotu is the channel bot
[09:01] <WindowsDependant> can i use my microsoft serial mouse or does it have to be usb for linux?
[09:01] <ompaul> !ubotu
[09:01] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:01] <benkong2> ompaul, oops!! thanks
[09:01] <f_newton> yer welcome malin
[09:02] <WindowsDependant> is everyone here using a usb optical mouse?
[09:02] <benkong2> I use a wireless optical
[09:02] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: thanks it worked
[09:02] <rob_p> dooglus:  brb... gotta go get my food :-)
[09:02] <malin> paulproteus, imo it doesnt make sense installing quodlibet from breezy because it's older version than the one i tried installing from .tar.gz
[09:02] <GoClick> I've seen the wiki page on Java, I uncommended the line for the extras and planetmirror gave 404s, then I tried the ubuntuforums mirror and still can't find any packageswith j2re or sun- in the name
[09:03] <ompaul> ben_d, hardwiring to a network card System - Administration - Networking might just be what you are looking at
[09:03] <WindowsDependant> does it have to be wireless or usb?
[09:03] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, welcome ;-)
[09:03] <ompaul> ben_d, sorry wrong spy
[09:03] <WindowsDependant> i can't get my serial mouse to work
[09:03] <ompaul> benkong2, , hardwiring to a network card System - Administration - Networking might just be what you are looking for
[09:03] <Rockett18> !get java on i386
[09:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, get java on i386 is 'wget -c http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb', then 'sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb'
[09:03] <f_newton> I am just looking for a package list for breezy
[09:03] <f_newton> ...
[09:03] <asfra> f_newton: my cabel says cat5 patched, does that work? I have others as well, haven't looke at the yet
[09:04] <WindowsDependant> i just got a compaq optical and i think it causes ubuntu to lock up alot
[09:04] <WindowsDependant> i keep hearing that annoying tone it makes all the time until it is unlocked
[09:04] <f_newton> asfra I forget which pins need to be switched but you cannot just plug two nics together
[09:04] <f_newton> use a router
[09:05] <benkong2> ompaul, ??? wlan in linux has given me problems on this laptop. ex. in the office i can make it work by manual config. then when i go home still have to manual config for home.
[09:05] <ompaul> WindowsDependant, if it did not before and it does now most likely it is a hardware issue - maybe click on system - preferences - mouse might help
[09:05] <WindowsDependant> ok i'll check
[09:05] <benkong2> I used the unoffical hoary cd and got java
[09:06] <poe-t> is there any # for Japanese users of ubuntu ?
[09:06] <asfra> f_newton: cables that work to connect to computers in windows will work in ubuntu as well, right? Assuming I have a calbe that work, what do I do then? both machines run ubuntu
[09:06] <benkong2> WindowsDependant, I have a logitech cordless optical mouse and it works flawlessly
[09:07] <benkong2> WindowsDependant, has 2 parts the optical mouse and the usd transmitter or reciever
[09:07] <HappyFool> poe-t: doesn't look like it (it would probably be #ubuntu-jp if there were one)
[09:07] <darkheart> HappyFool I think it would be ja actually =)
[09:07] <ompaul> benkong2, I read that as how to connect to another computer without wireless as it did not work, I am sorry to have to say I know very little about wireless at this time
[09:07] <HappyFool> darkheart: doh!
[09:07] <ompaul> !wireless
[09:07] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:07] <Tripp> Ok, I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and it rusn perfect, but the only internet connection I have is aol.  In order to use that connection I have to install a program called pengaol, because linux does'nt use the same dialup settings or something.  Does anyone know how to install pengaol?
[09:07] <GoClick> Rockett18, I've tried to install Java per the instruction on the site, HOWEVER Synaptic can't find the packages
[09:08] <Nevado> forums are back up now
[09:08] <ompaul> benkong2, maybe that link by ubotu might help
[09:08] <ray_> sudo apt-get install pengaol
[09:08] <benkong2> ompaul, ok. The problem for me is moving from one wireless AP to another. checking the ubotu link now. :-)
[09:08] <Tripp> I tried that last night from another guy, but he had to go to work, and it did'nt work.
[09:09] <WindowsDependant> benkong2: so do u think i should go wireless?
[09:09] <WindowsDependant> !pengaol
[09:09] <ubotu> WindowsDependant: I don't know
[09:10] <benkong2> WindowsDependant, that is a personal decision. I have an HP zv5000 AMD 64 3200+ laptop and it works for me just that one hassle.
[09:10] <benkong2> However I am trying to write a script that handles it for me. Since I know all of the essid, passpharses etc.
[09:10] <WindowsDependant> well i think my new mouse is causing problems b/c it locks up a lot with it
[09:10] <ompaul> Tripp, that might be 'sudo apt-get install penggy' I found it by using the command 'apt-cache search aol' and it looks like the best candidate
[09:10] <WindowsDependant> benkong2: can i use a serial mouse?
[09:11] <benkong2> If your machine supports it. probably hard to find one
[09:11] <ompaul> WindowsDependant, you should have no problems using a serial mouse
[09:11] <WindowsDependant> well i do
[09:11] <olivier__> bonjour a tous
[09:11] <WindowsDependant> linux won't move the mouse
[09:11] <WindowsDependant> it stays in the center of the screen
[09:11] <zenlunatic> should any usb flash based mp3 player work in ubuntu?
[09:11] <Belutz> ompaul: is it possible to create a custom install cd of ubuntu?
[09:11] <ompaul> olivier__, pour vous, #ubuntu-fr here is english
[09:12] <ompaul> Belutz, I believe that it is, have a look at the guys on the beatrix project
[09:12] <Belutz> ompaul: do you have an url?
[09:13] <ompaul> Belutz, it is here  http://www.watsky.net/    <--- rather nice very small and what turned me onto ubuntu in the first place :)
[09:13] <Belutz> ompaul: thx a lot :)
[09:13] <ompaul> Belutz, enjoy
[09:13] <h08817> is python beneficial to know?
[09:14] <h08817> or should u just learn c++
[09:14] <paulproteus> h08817: Yes. :)
[09:14] <paulproteus> Python.
[09:14] <ompaul> h08817, it is if you want to learn to program, I seem to remember this conversation the other evening
[09:14] <h08817> www.python.org for tuts?
[09:14] <ompaul> yes
[09:14] <h08817> ompaul: lol yes i wanna learn
[09:15] <h08817> i am just now choosing python for the language i wanna start with
[09:15] <asfra> Can someone help me connect one computer to the internet throught another?? thanks
[09:15] <asfra> both running ubuntu..
[09:15] <h08817> explain what u have as far as how u are connecting them
[09:15] <ompaul> h08817, have a look at the names of the online materials that are pointed to in the channel #python
[09:16] <h08817> wow there are really tons of channels on this server
[09:16] <barongas> asfra: What like file transfer?
[09:16] <kenny> srry im back
[09:16] <ompaul> asfra, a crossover cable for one to go to the other network card to network card is one option - two of them attached to a router / hub /switch with standard networking cables is another possible way
[09:17] <kenny> i have Musepack (MPC) format library can i use that to convert mpc to ogg
[09:17] <asfra> barongas: I've just installed ubuntu on one of them, and I need additional packages.. the packages are on the other computer so perhaps I don't need internet? can apt fix this?
[09:18] <ray_> anybody connect to aol in here
[09:18] <asfra> ompaul: cant I just connect them directly together.. I have to cables, I think atleas on of them is crossed
[09:19] <zenlunatic> anyone use an ipod shuffle in ubuntu?
[09:20] <ompaul> ray_  'sudo apt-get install penggy' may help you a lot with that aol stuff
[09:20] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: not under ubuntu bu another debian
[09:20] <PhoenixDPI> whats the prob?
[09:21] <zenlunatic> PhoenixDPI: well im in the markey for a flash mp3 player and i want to know do they all work in linux or what
[09:21] <ompaul> asfra, if you have a crossover cable you need to enable the ethernet cards and then use scp to get the .deb files from one to another
[09:21] <ray_> ompaul: thank you...im on cable but trying to help someone
[09:21] <ompaul> ray_, well then that may help them :)
[09:21] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: the shuffle works fine for me since it's supported by gtkpod
[09:22] <ray_> ompaul: i bet it will ..he was trying to compile the source of that file....except it was called peng and when i searched the repos for it i couldnt find it
[09:22] <zenlunatic> PhoenixDPI: i think ill get one with ogg support though
[09:22] <asfra> ompaul: yeah, thanks! what is scp?
[09:23] <ompaul> ray_ apt-cache search aol is they way forward there :)
[09:23] <ray_> thanks
[09:23] <ompaul> asfra, secure copy
[09:23] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: well, why not
[09:23] <zenlunatic> PhoenixDPI: if only they had mpc support
[09:24] <ompaul> asfra, you may find this url useful  http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/help/tutorials/scp/
[09:24] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: your on a special model or brand?
[09:24] <zenlunatic> PhoenixDPI: the iaudio u2 looks nice
[09:24] <barongas> Any package that supports windows media files?
[09:25] <Rockett18> w32codecs is on backports
[09:25] <zenlunatic> barongas: not vlc
[09:25] <sorush20> guys what program do I use to get CPU temperature and speed
[09:25] <barongas> Cool thanks
[09:25] <ompaul> are we going to get colony 4 ?
[09:25] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: for me the creative zen series sounds nice
[09:26] <zenlunatic> sorush20: i think there is some command line stuff but also gkrellm
[09:26] <Deep6> how is breezy ...is it installable yet?
[09:26] <Deep6> I have no idea what state it is in..
[09:26] <Brad_c> server irc.ballistixnet.com
[09:26] <tristanmike> Deep6, .....installable but still broken
[09:26] <Brad_c> oops
[09:26] <ray_> ompaul: is there a gui he could use?
[09:26] <ompaul> ray_, no idea
[09:26] <infernall> Anyone else experiencing lockups with the nvidia drivers?
[09:27] <infernall> I am stuck using the gpl nv driver, which doesnt support dual displays
[09:27] <kevman> Hey, whever I do a apt-get update, I am getting this error at the end:
[09:27] <kevman> Oh, wait. nvm.
[09:27] <poe-t> kevman, wjar kind of error?
[09:27] <ompaul> ray_, suggest searches with the following text in them on google and then ferret out what you need  penggy gui ubuntu debian and see what falls out of the sky :)
[09:27] <poe-t> oh
[09:28] <Deep6> tristanmike, what is brokenish?
[09:28] <kevman> I'm trying to use apt to upgrade from Warty to Hoary, but some packages seem to be 404...
[09:28] <apokryphos> !upgrade
[09:28] <ubotu> it has been said that upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:29] <tristanmike> Deep6, still alot of bugs, but apparently it's installable
[09:29] <Deep6> hrmm I might have to try it this evening
[09:29] <tristanmike> Deep6, I'm just gonna wait till october
[09:29] <h08817> can linux extract .zip files?
[09:29] <ntoll> h08817, yes
[09:29] <kevman> Well, I did all that, but some packages are missing from the servers.
[09:29] <ntoll> unzip
[09:29] <h08817> what command?
[09:30] <ntoll> see above
[09:30] <h08817> or can i just use the archive manager?
[09:30] <apokryphos> Breezy is fairly stable at the moment
[09:30] <kevman> "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org-dictionaries/myspell-en-gb_20030813-3ubuntu1_all.deb  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] "
[09:30] <h08817> ok thanks
[09:30] <apokryphos> kevman: make sure you sudo apt-get update first
[09:30] <poe-t> kevman, server down. so?
[09:30] <apokryphos> poe-t: the server is not down
[09:31] <kevman> Well, why the hell are needed packages missing?
[09:31] <kevman> I did do apt-get update. 3 times.
[09:31] <apokryphos> kevman: who said they were? The names could've changed
[09:31] <kevman> Well, then, how do I tell that to apt?
[09:32] <kevman> I would think apt-get update would fix that.
[09:32] <apokryphos> apt-get update *should*, in theory, resolve that
[09:32] <apokryphos> are you doing dist-upgrade?
[09:32] <kevman> Yes.
[09:33] <apokryphos> kevman: are you getting that for many packages or only for that one?
[09:33] <kevman> apokryphos, total of 2.
[09:33] <jedistar> I think I might have accidently deleted the pane that programs minize to... for example before If i minimized firefox it will be visible on the bar... now it just disapears
[09:33] <apokryphos> it might be worth installing those manually then, for now. In theory it should all go smoothly
[09:34] <kevman> That and... http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org-dictionaries/myspell-en-gb_20030813-3ubuntu1_all.deb
[09:34] <kevman> apokryphos, how does one install packages manually?
[09:34] <jedistar> anyone know how can I get it back?
[09:34] <apokryphos> kevman: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org-dictionaries/
[09:35] <apokryphos> kevman: actually, the best way is to get it from packages.ubuntu.com
[09:35] <Xappe> jedistar: the applet is called window-list
[09:36] <kevman> apokryphos, what do I do? Or where do I go for instruction?
[09:36] <eliphas_> what can make some sites I can't open them ?
[09:36] <eliphas_> like google
[09:37] <apokryphos> kevman: go there and go to Browse... Hoary. Your stuff would be under Text Processing
[09:37] <guessing> I am having trouble while installing nvidia drivers
[09:38] <guessing> somebody can help me?
[09:38] <apokryphos> kevman: i.e. your first one: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/text/myspell-en-gb
[09:38] <simonvallore_> hello
[09:38] <apokryphos> guessing: state the problem, and maybe someone can help
[09:38] <simonvallore_> how do i stick a file into my root directory
[09:39] <apokryphos> simonvallore_: you'll need root permissions
[09:39] <apokryphos> so sudo
[09:39] <simonvallore_> ok
[09:39] <guessing> It couldn't find the precompiled kernel?
[09:39] <simonvallore_> im in root consol
[09:39] <guessing> It couldn't find the precompiled kernel!
[09:40] <ompaul> !tell guessing about nvidia
[09:40] <jebem> how can i find my packages with synaptic when they are in the desktop?
[09:40] <Benjamin_L> sorry if this has been asked a thound times, but is there an esay way to get themes back in latest breezy ?
[09:40] <kevman> apokryphos, once I get the .debs, what do I do with them?
[09:41] <apokryphos> kevman: sudo dpkg -i {package}
[09:41] <simonvallore_> how do i stick a file into my root directory
[09:41] <thespiritoftal> anyone who can help me?my ubuntu works so slow..I thought maybe it was because of gnome and my ram but I installed debian with gnome.. it worked just fine.. can someone guess why it is? may the screen settings cause that?
[09:41] <priest> is the nforce 3 chipet well supported in the linux kernel? like sata and lan?
[09:41] <apokryphos> simonvallore_: sudo mv /some/location/somefile /.
[09:41] <benkong2> how do I get sources for the 2.6.10-k7 kernel only image and headers available in synaptic?
[09:42] <Benjamin_L> does anyone experience problems with themes in latest breezy ?
[09:43] <uthini> benkong2, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[09:43] <benkong2> uthini, thanks
[09:43] <uthini> np
[09:45] <kevman> apt-get happily contunies....
[09:46] <reiki_work> ok... I'm *convinced* now that most of the kids AND their parents that are starting college this week are a pack of idiots and I have no idea how such clueless morons got accepted
[09:46] <reiki_work> :)
[09:46] <jpfarias> hey people
[09:46] <guessing> ubotu, please send me the link again, I closed the window by mistake
[09:46] <ubotu> guessing: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:46] <jpfarias> how do I downgrade a package to a previous version?
[09:47] <Rockett18> guessing> is a bot
[09:47] <Rockett18> ubotu^
[09:47] <zevets> hi, I need the kernel source so I can install the nvidia drivers?
[09:47] <Ex-Cyber> !tell guessing about nvidia
[09:47] <guessing> didn't you send my some links about nvidia drivers?
[09:47] <zevets> where can I get it?
[09:47] <guessing> ubotu,  ty
[09:47] <ubotu> No idea, guessing
[09:47] <Ex-Cyber> guessing: someone told it to earlier with the command I just pasted :)
[09:47] <Rockett18> !nvidia
[09:47] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia
[09:47] <jpfarias> hey, how do I downgrade a package to a previous version?
[09:47] <zevets> thakns
[09:48] <uthini> lol Rockett18
[09:48] <Rockett18> im out
[09:49] <kevman> "Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:49] <kevman>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kmail_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu10_i386.deb
[09:49] <kevman> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[09:49] <reiki_work> I came i drunk one night and carried on a long conversation with a giant stuffed animal that my little brother won at the fair. :)
[09:49] <uthini> zevets, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[09:49] <uthini> if thats your kernel version
[09:49] <guessing> thanks everybody
[09:50] <kevman> That error above... Is something running that is stopping apt from working?
[09:50] <uthini> kevman, anything further than the error code?
[09:51] <zevets> uthini, I wasn't using the package that comes with this
[09:51] <zevets> but thx anyway
[09:51] <kevman> uthini, I'll paste the whole thing in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:52] <kevman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1586
[09:52] <NoHope> hello all
[09:53] <haja> I just reinstalled Ubuntu and I have a vfat partition. I go to access it and it can't get to it. When I login to my windows installation it sees the drive. Anyone got any clue?
[09:54] <pestilence> is there any way to revert a package back to the original configuration files?
[09:54] <arauzo> hello
[09:55] <pestilence> (without removing the package)
[09:55] <paulproteus> pestilence: dpkg --purge package ; apt-get install
[09:55] <paulproteus> pestilence: Oh.
[09:55] <arauzo> how can i change file types and programs associations????
[09:55] <paulproteus> pestilence: dpkg --reinstall ...?
[09:55] <pestilence> paulproteus: yea, but that causes all sorts of problems due to dependencies
[09:55] <pestilence> paulproteus: hmm.
[09:55] <paulproteus> pestilence: That's safe.  Watch this:
[09:55] <pestilence> paulproteus: didn't think that would overwrite configuration
[09:55] <poe-t> arauzo, done thru your window manager, I guess
[09:55] <paulproteus> dpkg --purge --force-deps packagename
[09:55] <paulproteus> apt-get -f install
[09:55] <arauzo> pestilence: dpkg-reinstall
[09:55] <paulproteus> Then apt-get should bring it back.
[09:56] <kevman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1586 <- any idea about this error?
[09:56] <arauzo> pestilence: sorry dpkg-reconfigure
[09:56] <eliphas_> what port do I need to pen to use gaim ?
[09:56] <eliphas_> open
[09:56] <paulproteus> eliphas_: Uh, it just works.
[09:57] <arauzo> eliphas_: depends on the network you want to use
[09:57] <eliphas_> msn
[09:57] <arauzo> so you need to find which ports msn uses...
[09:58] <silentigger> mp3 in ubuntu?
[09:58] <thespiritoftal> what is the command to move a directory to another folder and overwrite the directory with the same name in that folder?
[09:58] <Seveas> !mp3
[09:58] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:58] <Seveas> ^-- silentigger
[09:59] <kevman> eliphas_, msn is port 1863
[09:59] <eliphas_> kevman thanks
[09:59] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: mv -r
[09:59] <eliphas_> because for some reason i cna't manage to reach google
[09:59] <apokryphos> -rf
[09:59] <silentigger> Seveas, yes
[09:59] <eliphas_> my routeur is weird
[09:59] <kevman> No ideas?
[10:00] <arauzo> eliphas_: more info at: http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~rakerman/port-table.html
[10:00] <silentigger> Seveas, can i mp3 player?
[10:01] <keksladen> nabend
[10:02] <Logi_> if i want to install apache 1.3 with php4, and mysql... what are the packages that i ned
[10:02] <RootX|Arphetic> hello
[10:02] <mihai> where in /dev is the path to eth0 ?
[10:02] <silentigger> my AirPort ubuntu not support
[10:02] <RootX|Arphetic> I would like to know the name of the tiny linux distro, something like ... tomsrtr or so?
[10:03] <uthini> Logi_, apt will read the dependancies for you
[10:03] <keksladen> i've got a problem with ubuntu.. (i've installed it today) i cant login with root because i dont know the password..
[10:03] <haja> I just reinstalled Ubuntu on a ext3 parittion. I also have a vfat partition. When I try to access it in Linux I can't get to it. Do I need to remount it?
[10:03] <mihai> tomsrtr ? lol
[10:03] <Logi_> uthini..?
[10:03] <keksladen> i made a user and i can login with this user, but not with root...
[10:03] <Logi_> what do you mean?
[10:03] <Seveas> !root
[10:03] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:04] <telemaco> is there any way for install ubuntu from usb-hard-disk ?
[10:04] <Seveas> ^-- keksladen read that
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> keksladen, try ure user pasword
[10:04] <mihai> where in /dev is the path to eth0 ?
[10:04] <keksladen> thx
[10:04] <Seveas> ubuntu by default has no root password
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> keksladen, that's what it was on mine
[10:04] <uthini> Logi_, you know about apt_get?
[10:04] <Logi_> uthini, yeah
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> tho i'd made a typo when settign my password, n i made it twice so i couldn#'t log in for a fair while, lol
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, why did mine then?
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> i tried typing nothing but it didn't work
[10:05] <uthini> it also reads the dependancies (what other packages are needed by the package) and prompts to install
[10:05] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, login in the recovery mode
[10:05] <Logi_> uthini, i had apache2 on my machine.. but it wouldnt allow for certain things to work... so i still have php4, and mysql on my computer... they just arent configured
[10:05] <mihai> can somebody tell me the full path to eth0 in /dev ?
[10:05] <Seveas> that will give you a root login without entering a password
[10:05] <CookedGryphon> its ok i don't have the problem now
[10:05] <silentigger> ubuntu powerpc
[10:05] <Logi_> uthini, i also have apache1.3 on it too.. but it wont recognize the .php extension
[10:05] <_liquidfire> [22:04]  <_liquidfire> I just installed abc-bittorent client with the deb package
[10:05] <_liquidfire> [22:04]  <_liquidfire> Where can I find where he installed the program
[10:05] <_liquidfire> [22:04]  <_liquidfire> It doesn't appear in any menu listing
[10:05] <Seveas> mihai, why do you need to know
[10:05] <_liquidfire> :/
[10:05] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, i typed in random stuff n it let me in after a while, whereby i hastily ran passwd
[10:06] <ray_> !find penggy
[10:06] <RogerD> hello everyone - Does anyone know how to RESIZE a partition.   I looked at GPARTED, however I want to resize the active "/" partition from 40GB to 30GB.   HELP!!!!
[10:06] <ubotu> penggy: (Allows you to connect to AOL via modem or TCP/IP), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 70 kB, Installed size: 332 kB
[10:06] <RogerD> :)
[10:06] <Seveas> don't paste!
[10:06] <uthini> Logi_, have u done the config'ing apache
[10:06] <_liquidfire> :(?
[10:06] <silentigger> liquidfire, opa
[10:06] <mihai> Seveas, so i can configure an xfce plugin to show net-usage
[10:06] <_liquidfire> its only 3 lines :o?
[10:06] <silentigger> liquidfire, lucas mendes
[10:06] <Logi_> uthini, that's really what i need to know how to do... cause i cant find the correct documentation on it... everything is done for apache2 now...
[10:06] <Logi_> uthini, which isnt stable enough for my liking..
[10:06] <Seveas> mihai, that shoult just need eth0 not something in /dev
[10:06] <haja> I just reinstalled Ubuntu on a ext3 parittion. I also have a vfat partition for files. When I try to access it in Linux I can't get to it. Do I need to remount it?
[10:06] <michelp> I'm not so good at this package thing, I read the man page for sources.list but I'm still getting an error, I want to install the software and I use syntaptic to add the repository "deb http://download.librdf.org/binaries/ubuntu/hoary/" but it doesn't show up in the repo list and if I add it to source.list my self I get an error.  nayone know the right syntax?
[10:07] <Seveas> haja: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[10:07] <silentigger> Seveas, hi
[10:07] <mihai> Seveas, thanks, it works :)
[10:07] <jkindy> what can i use to write HTML?
[10:07] <haja> ohhh
[10:07] <silentigger> Seveas, do you help-me?
[10:07] <Seveas> michelp, you need to add a path to that list
[10:07] <pestilence> paulproteus: your dpkg --purge --force-depends seems to be exactly what i wanted.  thanks!
[10:07] <Logi_> jkindy, gedit
[10:07] <haja> thanks Seveas
[10:07] <Seveas> probably just ' ./' (without the quotes)
[10:07] <jkindy> is gedit on ubuntu allready
[10:07] <michelp> Seveas ok i'll try that thanks
[10:07] <silentigger> can you help-me?
[10:07] <Seveas> silentigger, did you read that page I sent you?
[10:07] <Logi_> jkindy, yeah
[10:08] <jkindy> thanks
[10:08] <silentigger> Seveas, ok
[10:08] <Hoxzer> what is the good software for ubuntu for make of music
[10:08] <silentigger> Seveas, ubuntu for powerpc
[10:08] <michelp> Seveas, sweet it works!
[10:09] <CookedGryphon> Hoxzer, beep-media-player is best n easiest, in my hunmble opinion
[10:09] <CookedGryphon> oh make
[10:09] <CookedGryphon> buger, i'll sthu up
[10:09] <CookedGryphon> shut*
[10:09] <Seveas> :)
[10:09] <Logi_> uthini, do you know what i have to do
[10:10] <jkindy> can i get aim sniff from apt-get?
[10:10] <wae2go> !java
[10:10] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:10] <Seveas> wae2go, the repositories in these instructions are down
[10:11] <Seveas> wae2go, gar a deb from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:11] <Seveas> grab a deb*
[10:11] <haja> Thanks again seveas.... worked perfectly
[10:12] <Bixmark> can I type this: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf in Applications -> Run Applications?
[10:12] <_liquidfire> sorry for the paste :/
[10:12] <Seveas> Bixmark, only if you tick 'run in console'
[10:12] <Seveas> otherwise do: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:12] <Bixmark> thanx seveas
[10:12] <_liquidfire> But anybody has an idea about my problem? I installed ABC using the debian package but i have no clue how to start it since i don't see any ABC buttons in any of my menu listings
[10:13] <Bixmark> is that the only place where you can type in that sudo command?
[10:13] <Seveas> dpkg -L abc-bla (put the actual package name there)
[10:13] <Seveas> that shows where it is installed
[10:13] <Seveas> Bixmark, you can write it in any terminal too
[10:13] <arauzo> how can i change file types and programs associations??
[10:14] <Seveas> !default
[10:14] <ubotu> Seveas: I give up, what is it?
[10:14] <Seveas> dang
[10:14] <Seveas> !defaults
[10:14] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
 tomsrtr ? lol <- it was tomsrtbt
[10:14] <Seveas> arauzo, rightclick on a file, seclect properties. Third tab 'open with'
[10:14] <black13> has anyone built a boot floppy that uses a 2.6 kernel?
[10:15] <arauzo> Seveas, but I want to make it permanent
[10:15] <Logi_> uthini, do you know what i have to do?
[10:15] <Seveas> arauzo, THAT makes it permanent
[10:15] <selinium> Seveas: Do you ever sleep?
[10:15] <selinium> :)
[10:15] <Seveas> selecting open with from the right click menu not
[10:15] <Seveas> selinium, hardly :)
[10:16] <wae2go> anyone know where backports is now?  I need to install java?
[10:16] <arauzo> it is not working for me
[10:16] <CookedGryphon> !java
[10:16] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:16] <CookedGryphon> yah! been dying to use that lol
[10:16] <wae2go> ok... is anyone more up to date then ubotu?
[10:16] <arauzo> isn't there any place where i could edit the types???
[10:17] <Seveas> wae2go, I just told you where you could grab a deb...
[10:17] <snoopy> hi people
[10:17] <clatta> does anyone know how to uninstall ati drivers and restore the original ones coming with the installation cd?
[10:17] <wae2go> didnt see it Seveas, where was it?
[10:17] <Seveas> wae2go, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:17] <jkindy> once i download a mp3 from limewire i cant get it to play outside of limewire and programs that will let me play it with out opeing up limewire?
[10:17] <uthini> Logi_, i knew once, back in 2002
[10:17] <uthini> lol
[10:17] <wae2go> kewl thanks
[10:18] <uthini> long since forgot
[10:18] <Lichte> how do I get gnome-db widgets for glade in Ubuntu ?
[10:19] <wae2go> seveas whats with all the backports urls not existing any longer?
[10:19] <Lichte> I've installed all the gnome-db stuff I can find
[10:19] <Seveas> wae2go, ENOCLUE
[10:19] <Logi_> uthini, boo...
[10:19] <wae2go> uh ok...
[10:19] <uthini> i remember it being in the httpd.conf
[10:19] <reiki_work> is it against any "rules" to use the Ubuntu logo on a web site when talking about how great it is? :)
[10:19] <uthini> or summin like that
[10:20] <Seveas> reiki_work, no
[10:20] <uthini> gottta add lines to make apache recognise php
[10:20] <Seveas> reiki_work, best ubuntu logo i've seen so far: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ubuntu-logo.png
[10:21] <Seveas> uthini, a2enmod php4
[10:21] <Seveas> (if you installed libapache2-mod-php4
[10:21] <uthini> see
[10:21] <uthini> Seveas, knows
[10:21] <wae2go> I am installing a lot of "work at home" workstations for a group of jr high kids and they all need to be able to access the same things.  The last couple of days getting the required packages has been hard to do
[10:21] <GameCat> hi, van someone tell me how to stop mysqdld from running at startup? i don't really want to go messing in the init stuff by hand...
[10:22] <pestilence> GameCat: update-rc.d -f mysql remove
[10:23] <Lichte> will the new services app in Gnome 2.12 work with Ubuntu ?
[10:23] <haja> Whats the package name for sunjava?
[10:23] <GameCat> pestilence: thats great, thanks, worked a treat
[10:24] <McGuinness> Hiy, anyone know what "Ignoring unknown interface sit0=sit0." means? (its supposed to be my wireless card... ;/
[10:24] <_liquidfire> Thanks Seveas, i got it working
[10:24] <reiki_work> Seveas: thank you much... I've now... uh... "borrowed" that graphic for later use. :)
[10:26] <carambol> is it possible to enter Home with the keybaord?
[10:28] <juanej> how do i take a screenshot (.jpg) with a console command?
[10:28] <tag> Ok, so I've got a pretty default ubuntu setup
[10:28] <wae2go> seveas thanks a lot.... that worked, was that your own site?
[10:29] <tag> in debian defoma was setup so I could just mkdir ~/.fonts/ and throw fonts in there
[10:30] <tag> but I dunno, defoma seems not set up the same here
[10:30] <inferno30> Hello! Someone here who can help a newbie figure out what's wrong with his Ubuntu installation (error 21)?
[10:31] <arauzo> inferno30: error 21?
[10:31] <arauzo> give us more details
[10:31] <arauzo> when does it says that?
[10:31] <inferno30> after the first stage of installing
[10:31] <inferno30> it has to reboot
[10:31] <inferno30> and i find myself looking at the loading screen of that linux boot program thingy
[10:32] <inferno30> and error 21 appears
[10:32] <inferno30> I've got 3 disks, with the first disk windows 98, and the third disk ubuntu
[10:32] <arauzo> I am trying to use the check for video player at firefox from ubuntu with mplayer and mozilla-mplayer installed of: https://mysql.webex.com/mysql/mywebex/epmainframe.php?rlink=https%3A%2F%2Fmysql.webex.com%2Fmysql%2Fonstage%2Fmainframe.php%3Fmainurl%3D%2Fmysql%2Fonstage%2Ftool%2Fevent%2Fevent_detail.php%3FEventID%3D386586052%26FirstEnter%3D1%26GuestTimeZone%3D%26SourceId%3D&Rnd5824=0.6295580847809172
[10:32] <c0rrupt__> -.-
[10:33] <arauzo> inferno30: doesn't it says anything else?
[10:33] <Lichte> how do I get gnome-db widgets for glade in Ubuntu ?
[10:33] <NoUse> inferno30 does it say "grub error 21"
[10:34] <haon> I tried linux before with mandrake and gave up because I couldnt for the life of me get my wireless usb linksys network adapter to work, is there support for it with ubuntu?
[10:34] <Bixmark> how do I get the desktop back up after doing cntl-at-backspace ?
[10:34] <morbidi> Bixmark: it get's up auto
[10:34] <Bixmark> after I do cntrl-alt-backspace I get the command screen
[10:35] <Bixmark> like DOS screen
[10:35] <wae2go> haon you will probably have to use either madwifi or ndiswrapper
[10:35] <Wallan> Bixmark: Isn't it /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[10:36] <selinium> HI guys, i am looking to start coding an application to convert a dive computer log into a visual dive log. Never coded anything on linux. What language do you guys suggest?
[10:36] <haon> c++ i would presume
[10:36] <Wallan> Bixmark: Works for me, but I am new at this...
[10:36] <McGuinness> How come I cant open up some GUI programs in UBUNTU? for isntance, Im clicking :system;Administration;networking. It thinks for awhile, then nothing happens......
[10:37] <black13> selinium
[10:37] <selinium> haon: Cheers, have you used C++ and or Python?
[10:37] <noob523423> hi
[10:37] <black13> selinium who is going to view the log
[10:37] <selinium> black13: hi
[10:37] <noob523423> quick question: how do i boot without X?
[10:37] <selinium> black13: me
[10:38] <black13> or rater how is it goin to be view?
[10:38] <^thehatsrule^> use bootcode 2
[10:38] <^thehatsrule^> for clie
[10:38] <^thehatsrule^> cli*
[10:38] <^thehatsrule^> i.e. runlevel 2
[10:38] <selinium> black13: ON screen and also printed out for my logbook. People have to see it from time to time.
[10:38] <noob523423> that's what it is right now
[10:38] <zen> hi
[10:38] <noob523423> and it's still booting to X
[10:39] <^thehatsrule^> perhaps you didnt save?
[10:39] <black13> is the information in some hiearchical form?
[10:39] <thoron> http://www.worldpeace.org/peaceday.html
[10:39] <noob523423> i DID save
[10:39] <noob523423> 2 is the default
[10:39] <zevets> runlevel 3
[10:39] <selinium> black13: Not sure yet. But probably.
[10:39] <noob523423> i tried that too
[10:39] <zevets> type it into command line
[10:39] <black13> selinium so people means other than you?
[10:39] <zevets> wierd
[10:39] <zevets> worked for me
[10:39] <zen> where is 'i18n' in ubuntu?
[10:39] <black13> selinium think about xml
[10:39] <selinium> black13: Yes, in its printed form
[10:39] <persia> noob523423: either uninstall gdm, or remove the symlink in /etc/rc3.d
[10:39] <^thehatsrule^> try it on the append, in grub maybe
[10:39] <haon> are ubuntuforums down or is t my computer?
[10:39] <black13> i dont know your data or you application
[10:39] <noob523423> persia: how do i remove that symlink?
[10:40] <zevets> how do I set the resolution to 1280x1024?
[10:40] <zen> zevets > hello
[10:40] <zevets> hi
[10:41] <zevets> how do I set the resolution to 1280x1024?
[10:41] <^thehatsrule^> noob523423: use a # to comment it out
[10:41] <black13> but spending more time upfront means less time in back or pain in the back ... xml-izing your data means you could do more with what you have ... you could make a web app then you could point "others" to a website that would contain you logs
[10:41] <lexmark> how do I save changes in Nano using the terminal?
[10:41] <zevets> ctrl O?
[10:41] <zen> zevets > I'm just a newbi for ubuntu. I got a question. Could u help me ?
[10:42] <zevets> im a newb too
[10:42] <zevets> but sure
[10:42] <persia> noob523423: `sudo mv /etc/rc3.d/S??gdm /etc/rc3.d/K01gdm`
[10:42] <lexmark> yeah, ctrl O means writeout
[10:42] <zevets> thats save
[10:42] <zen> zevets > where is 'i18n'?
[10:42] <lexmark> not sure if that means save
[10:42] <zevets> no clue
[10:42] <zevets> its save lexmark
[10:42] <lexmark> ok thanx
[10:43] <zen> I couldn't find it in the dir '/etc/sysconfig'
[10:43] <zevets> np
[10:43] <zevets> I wouldn't know zen
[10:43] <zevets> im sry
[10:43] <zen> zevets> O, but thanks.
[10:43] <zevets> do you know how to change the resolution
[10:44] <noob523423> persia...rebooting right now
[10:44] <selinium> black13: cheers. There is an old program that does some of what i want here. http://pakuro.is.sci.toho-u.ac.jp/aladin/INSTALL-e.html
[10:44] <lexmark> zevets: you can try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:44] <QMario> How do I copy and paste a directory into a file owned by root using the terminal?
[10:44] <zen> and could something kindperson help me ?
[10:45] <QMario> Hello Seveas.
[10:45] <jkindy> is there a winzip program on ubuntu
[10:45] <QMario> Hello bob2! :)
[10:45] <QMario> Hello Ubotu!.
[10:45] <QMario> !Botsnack
[10:45] <ubotu> :)
[10:45] <selinium> black13: Great idea about the xml!
[10:45] <zen> zevets > where are u from ?
[10:45] <QMario> !themes
[10:45] <ubotu> methinks themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[10:46] <noob523423> persia: it worked... thanks!
[10:46] <zevets> md, why?
[10:46] <zevets> how do I change my resolution?
[10:46] <noob523423> okay.... another guestion: how do i install the kernel sources?
[10:46] <selinium> black13: I am a web programmer and i forget that you can use xml outside php!  :)
[10:46] <QMario> Lexmark, how do I copy and paste a directory into a file owned by root using the terminal?
[10:46] <QMario> !command
[10:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, QMario
[10:47] <QMario> !copy
[10:47] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, QMario
[10:47] <QMario> !paste
[10:47] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:47] <RogerD> Seveas: Thanks for your help yesterday (I was the guy that could not get root access)
[10:47] <zen> zevets> have u got any problem too?
[10:47] <zevets> yeah
[10:47] <zevets> I want to change my resolution to 1280 1024
[10:47] <zen> zevets > what's it?
[10:48] <wae2go> well this one is finished....
[10:48] <zevets> don't know how
[10:48] <persia> QMario: `sudo mv source destination` or `sudo cp -aRp source destination`
[10:48] <noob523423> i can't install nvidia drivers cause i don't have my kernel source installed it says... i need the latest ones that apt-get doesn't have yet cause i have a 7800 GTX
[10:48] <wae2go> every thing a teenager needs in a computer...
[10:48] <QMario>   Wae2go, how do I copy and paste a directory into a file owned by root using the terminal?
[10:49] <QMario> Okay. Thank you persia.
[10:49] <zen> zevets > u can try to edit the file named initrd
[10:49] <QMario>
[10:49] <zevets> cool
[10:49] <zevets> I will try
[10:49] <wae2go> uh QMario I guess you got answered?
[10:50] <IRCMonkey> quick question...  I just picked up an old macintosh 7600 with a g3/445 upgrade for $35.  Does anyone know if the PPC version of ubuntu will run on this?
[10:50] <ghais> hello everyone, who can I change the font size of tty(s)
[10:50] <zen> zevets > what's the desk ur using?
[10:50] <zevets> dunno
[10:50] <RogerD> I have the same question as IRCMonkey, only I have an 8600.   :D
[10:51] <QMario> How do I install a theme?
[10:51] <zen> zevets >what's that? I never hear it before. and mine is gnome
[10:51] <zevets> oh window manager
[10:51] <zevets> I use gnome
[10:51] <zevets> like all ubunut
[10:51] <zevets> brb
[10:51] <meff> quick q, i've been using debian sid for quite awhile and i am looking into ubuntu and i am wondering, if i am just going to update from hoary -> breezy anyways, is it ok to install from a colony test cd? is it the same?
[10:52] <Sparky> hey
[10:52] <Sparky> does anybody know how to format an ipod under linux?
[10:53] <zen> zevets > oh, u also can use the menu ,system->display->..
[10:53] <RogerD> Sparky: Does gtkpod have that ability?
[10:53] <floppyears> hi
[10:53] <RogerD> try it
[10:53] <floppyears> is there something like a script that I can use to turn .sxw files into .doc files?
[10:54] <zen> zevets > oh, u also can use the menu ,system->system management->display->..
[10:54] <Sparky> Rogerd: I'm not sure, I dont think so because I cant find a way
[10:54] <thespiritoftal> can i remove all the files that start with "index" in a certain directory with one command?
[10:54] <RogerD> Sparky: Did you try gtkpod?  or do you need help to get that?
[10:54] <persia> thespiritoftal: `rm directory/index*`
[10:54] <zen> sparky > hi
[10:54] <RogerD> Sparky: It should be in the universe or multiverse
[10:55] <QMario> Okay, I did it! :)
[10:55] <Sparky> RogerD: I have GTKpod, but I cant find an option to format the ipod
[10:55] <QMario> Thank you!
[10:55] <QMario> Hello Sparky! :)
[10:55] <Sparky> Hello qmario
[10:55] <Sparky> :)
[10:55] <zen> Sparky > I also got a question ,Could u help me ?
[10:55] <noob523423> is the kernel source on the install cd?
[10:55] <Sparky> sure
[10:55] <Sparky> I'm not that great with linux
[10:55] <hardw1re> hey, can someone tell me what this xFce desktop environment is? cause im trying it out now, i've never heard of it before....
[10:55] <Sparky> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=316932#post316932 heres more info on the problem
[10:56] <zen> Sparky > where is 'i18n'?
[10:56] <DekaPink> Hey all... I'm trying to resize my partitions with gparted from the Ubuntu live CD... and it says that I'm trying to resize an active partition when I try... What should I do? :3
[10:56] <RogerD> Sparky: If that does not work, you may need to get your fingers dirty with HFS. (apples file system)  you can download kernel modules to read/write HFS filesystems.   that's the "old school way" of doing it.   If there is a newer/better way.  I'm all ears
[10:56] <hardw1re> !xfce
[10:56] <ubotu> well, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/
[10:56] <sean_> xfce owns :p
[10:56] <hardw1re> yeah, steam runs without borders in it :D
[10:56] <RogerD> I think the ipods are still using HFS for their underlying file system
[10:56] <hardw1re> it seems rather quick and responsive too :D
[10:56] <sean_> oh its damn fast, i run a 333celeron /64mb ram, and its still pacey
[10:57] <thespiritoftal> and is there a way to remove all the files starting with index in a directory and all the files starting with index in the directories inside the first directory?
[10:57] <hardw1re> lol sean_
[10:57] <hardw1re> im on an amd 64. with 1GB of ram :P
[10:58] <sean_> hahaha, yeah man i feel like im antiquing
[10:58] <sean_> im a good test dummy for old hardware thou :p
[10:58] <DekaPink> Does anyone know what the deal might be? As far as I can tell, the partitions aren't mounted.
[10:58] <black13> selinium web apps make distrobution so much easier ... jut point to a url no software push
[10:58] <sean_> DekaPink, what type of partitions?
[10:58] <persia> thespiritoftal: `man regex` for an explanation of the wildcards (or maybe `man bash`.  For this, you might try `rm directory/*/index*`, but for more, you'd best take a look at the included docs.
[10:59] <DekaPink> sean_: My windows partition...  I just ran a reinstall and alot of packages are not installing (java,mozilla,and scuh)
[11:00] <haja> Does anyone know the java package name?
[11:00] <andril> haja, you too huh?
[11:00] <DekaPink> sean_: Blast~ xD
[11:00] <haja> yeah.... I just reinstalled ubuntu and can't get anything installed
[11:00] <selinium> black13: true but i still have to get the info out of my dive computer which means tranfsering it to the pc anyway. When its there it seems a bit strange to upload it. but in that you have given me another idea!
[11:00] <haja> Thought it was just me...
[11:00] <zen> DekaPink > u can use the tool named magic partition. it can make u wanted
[11:00] <RogerD> ok: so does anyone know how I can shrink down my Ubuntu partition.  Specifically I want to shrink my 40GB '/' partition down to 30GB.......
[11:01] <dalamar> you mean partition magic?
[11:01] <DekaPink> I guess I'll go do that.
[11:01] <RogerD> I tryied GPARTED, but it didn't seem to want to work.
[11:01] <sean_> partion magics handy :)
[11:01] <RogerD> I booted from the LIVE CD, apt-get'ed it, used it, no joy ..........
[11:01] <sean_> but its commercial
[11:01] <haja> I get a COuldn't Find Package error...?
[11:01] <sean_> and windows
[11:01] <haja> You too andril ?
[11:02] <klato> hey guys, i just ran the live cd and it seems to work ok (even detected me wireless =), but i can't seem to connect to anything, even though i specified my essid and WEP in the options...?
[11:02] <medamaybe> hi@all
[11:02] <RogerD> I do not have the NTFS headaches!!!   Just need to shrink a standard Linux partition (Ubuntu created)
[11:02] <andril> haja, yes I reinstalled on 2 pc's and no luck just errors because java is missing
[11:02] <zen> dalamar >perhaps!
[11:02] <klato> i'd look in the forums but i they seem to be down..
[11:03] <dalamar> they all knew what you meant ;)
[11:03] <neo78> allright folks...
[11:03] <neo78> bedtime for me...
[11:03] <medamaybe> does anyone have a suggestion on this? "meda is not in the sudoers file"?
[11:03] <medamaybe> goodnight neo
[11:03] <neo78> have to lecture a programming class eeeearly in the morning
[11:03] <dalamar> i think whatever site I was using for one of my repos pooped out because I can't seem to install amarok now
[11:04] <neo78> ciao
[11:04] <haja> Seems a lot of people are having problems with repos???
[11:04] <dalamar> for sure
[11:04] <RogerD> anyone?   shrink down my '/' partition?
[11:04] <RogerD> :)
[11:04] <haja> figures... just when I decide to reinstall
[11:04] <yaru22> universe and multiverse source list adding?
[11:04] <yaru22> what is it?
[11:05] <dalamar> !repos
[11:05] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:05] <hardw1re> anyone else using the cvs of aMSN?
[11:05] <sean_> yea i do
[11:06] <medamaybe> does anyone know how I get a user in the 'sudoers' file?
[11:06] <nakata> visudo
[11:06] <nakata> in a terminal
[11:06] <dalamar> medamaybe, are you using gnome?
[11:06] <medamaybe> yes, gnome
[11:06] <dalamar> system -> admin -> user and groups
[11:06] <parka> join #xfce-de
[11:06] <parka> upsa
[11:07] <medamaybe> omg...lol
[11:07] <medamaybe> I was trying to do it from the command line
[11:07] <dalamar> medamaybe, I always check for a pretty picture version first ;)
[11:07] <medamaybe> lol
[11:07] <dalamar> heh
[11:07] <medamaybe> "Child terminated with 1 status"
[11:08] <medamaybe> what's that all about?
[11:08] <no_dammagE> hi, can I remove all contents from /var/cache without fear (I have only 200 MB left on /) without fear?
[11:08] <dalamar> ? dunno thats what happened when you tried to run it?
[11:08] <no_dammagE> -without fear :)
[11:08] <medamaybe> when I tried to run it, it asked me to type in a password, I did
[11:08] <medamaybe> and that's what it said
[11:08] <black13> selinium what creates the data?
[11:09] <dalamar> medamaybe, then user your trying to use it with right now has sudo privilige right?
[11:09] <selinium> black13: A wrist mounted computer
[11:09] <medamaybe> no, the user I'm trying to use it with right now, NEEDS sudo privileges, but I can't get it to work
[11:10] <alllanon> Are the daily builds of Breezy known to be working?
[11:10] <dalamar> medamaybe, you do have A user with sudo though right? your going to need it to run the program
[11:10] <medamaybe> no..that's the problem
[11:10] <medamaybe> I don't know how to give sudo priviledges to a user
[11:10] <alllanon> medamaybe: is he in /etc/sudoers?
[11:10] <dalamar> you mean your main user doesn't have sudo privilege to begin with? thats not right
[11:10] <Seveas> alllanon, they are known to be working somtimes
[11:10] <medamaybe> hang on, I'll check
[11:11] <Sauron21> Hi...I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could get a ppp/mppe patch for ubuntu?
[11:11] <alllanon> Seveas: okay :]  I tried booting yesterday's iso three times today. different problem on every boot :}
[11:11] <medamaybe> only "root"  is in /etc/sudoers
[11:12] <TMS> I dont suppose anyone happen to know of an ipw2100 source with WPA support enabled?
[11:12] <alllanon> Oh, forgot to mention it was the live cd.  Is there a Breezy live cd known to be good, then?
[11:13] <dalamar> i've only got 'root' in my /etc/sudoers as well yet my main user 'dalamar' still has sudo ability
[11:13] <medamaybe> would it do me any good if I change the /etc/sudoers file and put a user in there?
[11:13] <medamaybe> :/
[11:13] <medamaybe> that's odd
[11:13] <Seveas> dalamar, in hoary the admin group is in the sudoers file
[11:13] <metis> can anyone help me with creloaded/oscommerce?
[11:14] <Seveas> and the first user you create is in that group
[11:14] <dalamar> Seveas, ah ok
[11:14] <medamaybe> I read something about users having to be in the 'wheel' group to be able to use sudo
[11:14] <alllanon> dalamar: hm, yes. i usually use archlinux, and i thought i set it there. could be different on ubuntu.
[11:14] <dalamar> so its based on group in hoary
[11:14] <FiRez> medaybe: no
[11:14] <alllanon> ah, then it should be just to add your user to the admin group then?
[11:14] <medamaybe> so...how do I add a user to the admin group?
[11:14] <FiRez> You can change that in the user adm. program
[11:15] <dalamar> medamaybe, I really dont see how your first user you created on install couldnt have admin
[11:15] <medamaybe> well..neither do I
[11:15] <FiRez> is called Users and Groups I think, sorry I don't have Ubuntu installed in my work's PC
[11:15] <black13> has anyone played around with making bootable cd roms based on ubuntu?
[11:15] <black13> or debian
[11:15] <medamaybe> I can't get to the Users and Groups thing
[11:16] <medamaybe> it tells me I need a password
[11:16] <dalamar> your using the -user's- password when it asks right, not root pw?
[11:16] <medamaybe> yeah, the users password
[11:16] <dalamar> and are you trying this with your first/main user?
[11:16] <medamaybe> I have only 1 user
[11:16] <FiRez> it should work like that or just enable the root account
[11:16] <FiRez> wait...I will look for the link
[11:16] <medamaybe> ok
[11:17] <FiRez> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?highlight=%28root%29
[11:17] <selinium> anyone a bluetooth wizard here?
[11:17] <FiRez> see Enabling root account
[11:17] <selinium> I am having some bonding issues!  :)
[11:17] <zen> where is the file named 'i18n'?
[11:17] <zen> where is the file named 'i18n'?
[11:17] <zen> where is the file named 'i18n'?
[11:17] <medamaybe> ok, thanks
[11:17] <apokryphos> You can't enable the root account if sudo isn't working
[11:18] <apokryphos> zen: don't flood
[11:18] <dalamar> yeah
[11:18] <medamaybe> I can't do ANYTHING if sudo is not working, or so it seems :)
[11:18] <dalamar> so thats really not going to do you any good
[11:18] <FiRez> sorry I forget that you can't use sudo
[11:18] <apokryphos> what happened?
[11:18] <medamaybe> :/
[11:18] <FiRez> what happens when you try to use the terminal as root?
[11:18] <medamaybe> that works
[11:19] <hardw1re> xfce is tehh ownage
[11:19] <apokryphos> only real way to stop sudo working is to muck up your subdoers file; you shouldn't really be playing around with that
[11:19] <FiRez> well just use the command without sudo but be sure that you are using the terminal with the root profile
[11:19] <TaxMan> Quick question, just so I won't waste time trying this and have to reboot: Can I install packages when on the LiveCD (obviously only for the same session but still)?
[11:19] <juanej> is there anyway to get rid of gnome and install xfce?
[11:19] <medamaybe> I never even touched my sudoers file
[11:19] <juanej> without reinstalling i mean
[11:20] <apokryphos> medamaybe: and what happens when you try to sudo? Password incorrect?
[11:20] <dalamar> juanej, install xfce, set it in your sessions at login, then delete gnome
[11:20] <medamaybe> no, it tells me 'meda is not in the sudoers file'
[11:20] <juanej> dalamar, how?
[11:20] <dalamar> how what?
[11:20] <FiRez> mm....it's my connection or the forums are down?
[11:20] <apokryphos> medamaybe: and that's the user you said you started with?
[11:20] <dalamar> use synaptic
[11:20] <medamaybe> yeah, it is
[11:21] <apokryphos> medamaybe: but you can get into root permissions now?
[11:21] <mattyJ> does anyone know if you can use gnomemeeting to connect to someone with ichat on a mac?
[11:21] <apokryphos> medamaybe: if you can, type visudo there
[11:21] <haja> can someone give me a hand in installing java..
[11:21] <medamaybe> ok
[11:21] <apokryphos> medamaybe: and add in {username} ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:21] <FiRez> did you tried to install it from synaotic?
[11:21] <FiRez> *synaptic
[11:21] <NoUse> !java
[11:21] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:21] <CookedGryphon> haja, i have java installed n working, what do u want to know?
[11:22] <haja> what is the package name to install it?
[11:22] <zen> apokryphos > I 'm sorry ,I just wanna solve my problem.
[11:22] <dalamar> im guessing the aq would tell you
[11:22] <FiRez> search for JRE
[11:22] <dalamar> the faq too
[11:22] <bytefoo> someone know what version of ipw2200 ubuntu is using
[11:22] <CookedGryphon> i dint dl a package myself
[11:22] <bytefoo> is it the latest that supports monitor mode :O
[11:22] <apokryphos> zen: hmm?
[11:22] <asfra> haja: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[11:22] <CookedGryphon> downloaded the self extracting archive from www.java.com
[11:22] <haja> I get nothhing in synap
[11:23] <dalamar> zen, the il8n stuff is language packages most likely
[11:23] <asfra> haja: check sources.list
[11:23] <apokryphos> Everyone's mentioning ten different ways to get it (and I have another). Confusing, I'm sure. :)
[11:23] <NoUse> haja have you looked at the wiki?
[11:23] <haja> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[11:23] <apokryphos> actually, the wiki is dated -- jre is no longer in hoary-extras
[11:23] <zen> dalamar > yeah, I wanna find it. but I'am fail
[11:23] <haja> I am using the ubuntuguide.com or hwatever
[11:23] <medamaybe> it works!
[11:23] <NoUse> !tell haja about java
[11:23] <medamaybe> my other user is now able to use sudo
[11:23] <medamaybe> thanks guys
[11:23] <dalamar> medamaybe, congrats
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> you could jsut do what i did, it works
[11:24] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[11:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> www.java.com
[11:24] <medamaybe> now...let's see how I can screw everything up again ;)
[11:24] <apokryphos> CookedGryphon: unnecessary
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> downlaod the self extracting
[11:24] <zen> dalamer > perhaps, Ubuntu hasn't that file. but another do.
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> i like to do things the logn way around tho
[11:24] <dalamar> zen, ubuntu has alot of those, though its not just called il8n, its got a long filename with the language name in the front of it
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> long*
[11:25] <CookedGryphon> its more fun
[11:25] <apokryphos> CookedGryphon: most others won't -- I think that's a safe presumption :P
[11:25] <rmflagg> Does anyone know anything about the workings of GDM?
[11:25] <zen> dalamer >and what? I can't see the follow words
[11:25] <juanej> can i replace nautilius with rox file manager?
[11:25] <Seveas> all the people needing java: backports mirrors seem to have problems
[11:26] <CookedGryphon> apokryphos, i wanted java to run a risk game n it referred me to java.com, then when i searched synaptic 4 java, nothing, so i juust went off the java website
[11:26] <Seveas> look at my hostmask to find out where you can grab java debs :)
[11:26] <apokryphos> and hoary-extras doesn't have it anymore
[11:26] <apokryphos> CookedGryphon: it's an option, sure; but there are easier methods
[11:26] <CookedGryphon> oh yeah, i have a problem
[11:26] <RockFoo> Anyone here have experience with installing an ATI Radeon in Ubuntu?
[11:27] <Seveas> !ati
[11:27] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:27] <Seveas> ^-- RockFoo
[11:27] <rmflagg> I am running Hoary and GDM doesn't ask if I want to use Session "X" as my default session anymore.  It also doesn't save the "Last" session setting.
[11:27] <dalamar> zen, i was just saying the file isnt just called 'il8n', thats only a small part of a long filename
[11:27] <haja> When I search for sun-j2re1.5 in synaptic I get nothing
[11:27] <haja> I've added all the repos
[11:27] <bytefoo> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[11:27] <apokryphos> haja: you don't have the appropriate repository enabled
[11:27] <Madison> could I ask some advice when someone's got a minute
[11:27] <bytefoo> where can i check the latest package version on somethin :O
[11:27] <Seveas> haja, look at what I just said :)
[11:27] <bytefoo> for ubuntu repo :X
[11:27] <dalamar> haja, listen to Seveas, get it from there
[11:28] <apokryphos> haja: add.... deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ./
[11:28] <Seveas> Madison, just ask :)
[11:28] <keegan3747> cookedGryphon, u have to download the .tar.gz file from sun's site
[11:28] <FiRez> bytefoo google the package
[11:28] <zen> oh, thanks ,but what's that?
[11:28] <apokryphos> Seveas: it's the damn wiki that's confusing, too. Will edit that.
[11:28] <Seveas> bytefoo, with synaptic
[11:28] <Seveas> apokryphos, just did :)
[11:28] <haja> sorry.... I didn't see that
[11:28] <bytefoo> googling the package tells me the package version, not what ubuntu is using
[11:28] <zen> dalamer >oh, thanks . but what's that?
[11:28] <bytefoo> yah i would, but im at work on an xp box :X
[11:28] <Madison> any chance anyone knows where to get a driver for a compaq deskpro en soundcard?
[11:28] <apokryphos> Seveas: ah, good going.
[11:28] <CookedGryphon> i have a java game in a .jar pkg, and it has several shell scripts to run it in different modes, when i type in the path to one of the scripts in terminal  it works fine, but then as soon as i put exactly the same command line in smeg then nothing happens
[11:29] <Seveas> bytefoo, ok, then packages.ubuntu.com :)
[11:29] <dalamar> zen, whats what? its most likely a language file
[11:29] <haja> add that as a repo?
[11:29] <FiRez> sorry I thought you wanted to know the latest version of the package
[11:29] <bytefoo> ahh thank you :)
[11:29] <CookedGryphon> keegan3747, eh, i already have java, no problem with it
[11:29] <apokryphos> haja: yes
[11:29] <rmflagg> I can't find anything on Google about the settings and what to change inside GDM conf.
[11:29] <Kuma> Can someone help me. When I run "Add/Remove Programs" I get this error:
[11:29] <keegan3747> cookedgryphon, I misread wat u typed ;)
[11:29] <Seveas> haja, either add it as repo or manually download a java .deb file from there
[11:29] <durt> !gdm
[11:29] <ubotu> No idea, durt
[11:30] <haja> awesome
[11:30] <FiRez> CookedGryphon did you used the installation files from sun.com or did you got it from synaptic?
[11:30] <haja> works
[11:30] <haja> thanks again
[11:30] <Seveas> Kuma: disable backports and reinstall python-xdg
[11:30] <haja> When I installed the first time I got it installed fine... don't know whats going on this time
[11:30] <CookedGryphon> FiRez, installation files, not synaptic
[11:30] <thespiritoftal> what is the command to write a directory to a cd?
[11:30] <CookedGryphon> and yes java dir is in my path variable
[11:30] <Kuma> Seveas: I am sorry, but I am a noob how do I disable backports and reinstall python...
[11:30] <FiRez> thanks, I was planning to install it today
[11:31] <Seveas> Kuma, first give the error :)
[11:31] <Kuma> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:31] <rmflagg> Ok, so NOBODY in here can supply me with ANY insight as to what could have happened to my GDM setting?
[11:31] <skora> !metapackage
[11:31] <ubotu> skora: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:31] <CookedGryphon> what's the exactly problem rmflagg ?
[11:31] <Seveas> Kuma, oooohhh
[11:31] <rmflagg> I am running Hoary and GDM doesn't ask if I want to use Session "X" as my default session anymore.  It also doesn't save the "Last" session setting.
[11:31] <Seveas> that's not what I expected :)
[11:32] <zen> dalamar >oh, thanks for ur help.
[11:32] <mirak> hi
[11:32] <haon> would the linux driver available here work on ubuntu? http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Download_C2%26cid%3D1115417109934%26sku%3D1121874580756&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
[11:32] <Seveas> Kuma, simply open synaptic and hit the reload button
[11:32] <Seveas> or in a terminal, run: sudo apt-get update
[11:32] <Kuma> Seveas: I am sorry, but I am a noob how...
[11:32] <rmflagg> It also has the default setting to Gnome and I am running Fluxbox exclusively.
[11:32] <Kuma> Seveas: Never mind.
[11:32] <Seveas> Kuma, synaptic is in the menu at the top of the screen: system -> administration -> synaptic
[11:32] <CookedGryphon> rmflagg, can u do anything in System -> Administration -> Login screen setup?
[11:33] <beniamino> anyone know why apt-get sun-j2re1.5 stopped working (for me) in the last few days? i know backports/extras isn't official, just wondered if anyone knew what happened
[11:33] <apokryphos> beniamino: it's no longer in hoary-extras
[11:33] <dalamar> its not working ;)
[11:33] <keegan3747> rmflagg, I am not sure if I understand the question or not but don't u change the session by clicking session on the login screen?
[11:33] <Kuma> Seveas: Error: Another synaptic is running...
[11:33] <apokryphos> Kuma: close the other one :P
[11:33] <Seveas> Kuma, close the add/remove programs thing
[11:33] <rmflagg> I am running Fluxbox.  I have been for months and everything has been fine.  It just changed last week!
[11:33] <icewt> how can i change gtk1 theme?
[11:33] <Kuma> Seveas: It is not open.
[11:34] <durt> where is sun-j2re1.5 now then?
[11:34] <skora> Hi. I'm trying to find out information about metapackages, but I checked the forum [down] , the wiki [no info]  and google; and unable to find out.
[11:34] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell durt about java
[11:34] <asfra> hi, is it possible to copy alle the packages related to aptitude to en external harddrive? is so, can anybode tell me where they are located?
[11:34] <dalamar> do you have an apt-get running on cmdlin?
[11:34] <Seveas> skora, the wiki should have info
[11:34] <skora> for example - can I remove them without any harm ?
[11:34] <selinium> black13: the program downloads a bitstream from the dive computer this then needs to be turned into readable info using the formula found at http://www.muenster.de/~matthias/aladin/aladin_frame.xls
[11:34] <apokryphos> asfra: all packages are in archive.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <Seveas> I wrote a page about them a few months ago
[11:34] <skora> Seveas, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/search?SearchableText=metapackage&Title=&Description=&created%3Adate=1970%2F02%2F01+00%3A00%3A00+GMT&created_usage=range%3Amin&pt_toggle=%23&portal_type%3Alist=AmazonItem&portal_type%3Alist=Discussion+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Document&portal_type%3Alist=Event&portal_type%3Alist=Favorite&portal_type%3Alist=File&portal_type%3Alist=Folder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenter&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterDefinition&
[11:34] <skora> portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterErrorReference&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterErrorReferenceFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterFAQ&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterFAQFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterGlossary&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterHowTo&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterHowToFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterLink&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterLinkFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorial&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorialFolder&portal
[11:34] <skora> _type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorialPage&portal_type%3Alist=Image&portal_type%3Alist=Large+Plone+Folder&portal_type%3Alist=Link&portal_type%3Alist=News+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Plone+Site&portal_type%3Alist=TempFolder&portal_type%3Alist=Topic&portal_type%3Alist=Wiki+Page&Creator=&submit=Search
[11:34] <rmflagg> keegan3747: Yes, you do.  But it doesn't remember the Last session setting anymore.  So everytime I log in, I go to Gnome, which I don't use.
[11:34] <dalamar> whoa
[11:34] <skora> ack sry.
[11:34] <c0rrupt__> .........
[11:34] <dalamar> i have no eyes
[11:34] <apokryphos> speeedy
[11:35] <klato> my WAP is not detected (although my wireless card is) in ubuntu, although all is fine in another os. the wireless is eth1, and i entered my essid/wep (using 4th, dont see any way to have it use the 4th though)...any ideas?
[11:35] <Seveas> jeez, what an a**
[11:35] <rmflagg> Also, it doesn't ask anymore if I want to change my default setting to Fluxbox anymore.
[11:35] <Kuma> Seveas: It is not open.
[11:35] <c0rrupt__> damn long link
[11:35] <keegan3747> rmflagg, if you change the session by clicking session on the login screen, it should ask if you want to make it the default, so u should be able to edit the default there
[11:35] <Seveas> Kuma, hmm
[11:35] <chris> hey I'm looking for an applet to sit on my gnome-panel that will alert me to new emails does anyone know of a good one?
[11:35] <rmflagg> It doesn't ask anymore. :(
[11:35] <RockFoo> Alright I tried using the guides to installing an ATI card on Ubuntu but I can't start X back up
[11:35] <Seveas> close all instances of synaptic, apt-get, add remove programs and whatnot
[11:35] <keegan3747> hmmm...
[11:35] <beniamino> apokryphos: well that would explain it :-) but what happened?
[11:36] <RockFoo> Can anyone help me?
[11:36] <robotgeek> Kuma: sudo killall synaptic
[11:36] <Seveas> and then retry
[11:36] <asfra> apokryphos: ok, thats online. But doesn't apt keep all the dowloaded packages in a local directory on the computer?
[11:36] <alllanon> chris: xbiff?
[11:36] <apokryphos> beniamino: I have no idea
[11:36] <apokryphos> asfra: *downloaded* ones, yes
[11:36] <chris> alllanon, I'll give that a try thanks
[11:36] <apokryphos> asfra: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:36] <selinium> black13: thanks for your pointers.
[11:36] <robotgeek> does anyone know a good mp3 tag editor?
[11:36] <ircleuser> is the ntfs partition resizing working on latest daily install cd?
[11:36] <apokryphos> robotgeek: JuK
[11:36] <alllanon> robotgeek: amarok :)
[11:36] <Madison> well, I'll be damned if I can find a driver...
[11:37] <xerath> lo
[11:37] <robotgeek> apokryphos: thanks
[11:37] <selinium> robotgeek easytag