[01:46] <neonixcoder> Is ubuntu server upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 require reboot with out conformation?
[01:48] <patdk-lap> heh?
[01:48] <patdk-lap> you need to reboot, yes
[01:48] <patdk-lap> it will confirm if you want to now, or later
[01:48] <patdk-lap> but things won't be very stable, if you wait
[01:49] <neonixcoder> patdk-lap: That is fine.. but middle of some package installation it will reboot with out asking a single question..
[01:49] <neonixcoder> that is the issue
[01:49] <patdk-lap> then you have issues
[01:49] <patdk-lap> that doesn't happen
[01:49] <patdk-lap> unless your server has other problems
[01:49] <patdk-lap> OOM, panic, ...
[01:49] <neonixcoder> I tried numerous times 99% it will fail to upgrade..
[01:50] <patdk-lap> I have done hundreds of upgrades, on all my servers, never had that happen
[01:50] <patdk-lap> what does the logs, screen, ... show?
[01:50] <neonixcoder> patdk-lap: It dont show anything reason why it is rebooting..
[01:51] <neonixcoder> The logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade shows what package it is installing at the time of reboot
[01:51] <neonixcoder> Bit strange..
[01:52] <neonixcoder> on the same disk I tried to install fresh 10.04 and then upgraded which gave me 100% success result.
[01:52] <neonixcoder> but already existing OS I am unable to upgrade :(
[01:52] <neonixcoder> any suggestions?
[01:54] <neonixcoder> with fresh install, I can upgrade but with already existing one I can not upgrade..
[01:54] <neonixcoder> I am not sure how to check and where to check which is causing this issue?
[02:06] <khaldrogox> I am seeing "Outage in X days" In cannonical's Openstack "Monitor your region" area, its counting down 2-3 days per each day.
[02:06] <khaldrogox> I was under the impression that 10 node license is free
[02:06] <khaldrogox> is that not the case?
[02:07] <sarnold> neonixcoder: does it matter which debconf front end you're using?
[02:16] <patdk-lap> you can use frontends?
[03:03] <sarnold> patdk-lap: dunno, depends on the method used, I didn't see that, so I just asked blindly :)
[03:26] <neonixcoder> sarnold: I tried your suggestion but did not work.
[03:26] <neonixcoder> sarnold: I hear from my manager there is a watchdog script running in crontab which is doing this restart, I am going to check that cronjob and see if the upgrade went fine or not..
[03:29] <sarnold> neonixcoder: ha! that'd definitely do it :)
[03:36] <MrButh> I am trying to get lines from the apache access.log, but apache moves the file and creates a new one every now and then. So is there some sort of unique identifier that a file will have so I can check if the access.log is a new file?
[03:38] <sarnold> MrButh: the combination of device id and inode number is unique; check the output of stat access.log
[03:38] <sarnold> MrButh: granted, if you delete a file immediately before making a new file, you might get the old file's inode number back again
[03:39] <sarnold> MrButh: but most programs will try to prevent that
[04:12] <neonixcoder> sarnold: I am really puzzled as I manually removed watchdog script but it could have already loaded in to memory which is doing this.. So planing to disable it and remove it from cron file. Let me see
[04:13] <MrButh> thanks sarnold
[04:21] <sarnold> MrButh: hmm, I should have added that if you're just doing shell scripting things, tail -F might be easier than trying to roll your own solution
[04:21] <sarnold> neonixcoder: any luck? :)
[04:21] <neonixcoder> Not yet.. middle of it.. As of now all good
[06:33] <SuperLag> Canonical Landscape seems $$$$$$$$$.
[06:33] <SuperLag> if you guys have multiple Ubuntu machines to admin, and keep up to date... how do you do it efficiently?
[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:34] <sysrex> good morning
[07:34] <lordievader> o/
[07:38] <halvors> Hi! I have some problems reading PHP5 session files created på Apache and mod_php5 with php runned from the CLI.
[07:38] <halvors> The php.ini file for mod_php5 and the cli have exactly the same session path set.
[07:39] <halvors> Could it be that apparmor is preventing the php cli to access those files?
[07:39] <lordievader> Do the logs say that?
[07:41] <Hans67521> hi
[07:41] <lordievader> o/
[07:41] <halvors> lordievader: The php logs says that it doesn't have permission.
[07:42] <lordievader> So its a rights issue?
[07:42] <halvors> lordievader: Haven't gotten to do mor debugging than that yet, but in theory it is fully legit to read apache2 mod_php sessions from cli?
[07:42] <Hans67521> i'm trying to downgrade openjdk-7-jdk from u79-2.5.6-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> to u79-2.5.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:43] <Hans67521> but it looks like u79-2.5.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is no longer available...
[07:43] <lordievader> halvors: No idea, don't do much with php here ;)
[13:20] <skylite> If I have 2 TB free space in a Volume Group, can I remove an hdd (1TB) from that group with vgreduce without data loss?
[13:32] <lordievader> Depends, do all your lv's fit on 1 disk?
[13:32] <zetheroo> I am having difficulty adding Ubuntu to a Windows domain. According to the docs (https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-ad-integration.html) the first step is to "join an AD domain" using "Likewise-open", but it seems PBIS is now the thing to use. I have installed and ran PBIS but it will not connect to the domain.
[13:33] <lordievader> skylite: Probably you can btw, but first move everything off that disk.
[13:33] <skylite> lordievader yes and the hdd I want to remove from the vg has  Allocated PE          0
[13:33] <skylite> does this mean its not used?
[13:34] <lordievader> skylite: Correct. Try to remove it first in test mode, might show possible problems.
[13:34] <RoyK> skylite: yes, you can. pvmove
[13:35] <skylite> lordievader thx
[13:35] <skylite> RoyK isnt it vgreduce?
[13:35] <lordievader> In this case yes, usually there is data on the disk ;)
[13:36] <skylite> lordievader I see ok just checking
[13:36] <skylite> dont want to ruin everything here:D
[13:37] <skylite> but the -t is great
[13:45] <lordievader> skylite: I know, I usually run "dangerous" stuff with -t and -v first to see what it would do.
[13:45] <skylite> lordievader yea its great Idea
[13:47] <skylite> lordievader could I use this pvmove with a disk thats already in use? (if it has enough free space of course)
[13:47] <lordievader> skylite: What do you mean exactly?
[13:48] <skylite> lordievader well I have 2x 2TB hdd's in one VG both has 500Gb used for example
[13:49] <skylite> could I move everything from one hdd to the other and pull out the empty hdd from the vg
[13:50] <skylite> so I have 1 HDD left in the vg with 1TB used space
[13:50] <lordievader> Yes. LVM is dynamic. As long as there is storage space to move things to it can be done live.
[13:50] <skylite> thats cool
[13:50] <lordievader> I recently moved my root fs from my hdd to the ssd while it was running.
[13:51] <skylite> nice
[13:52] <skylite> so you experienced the speed up in one app while the other was still on the hdd? :)
[13:54] <lordievader> No. That is not how pvmove works.
[13:54] <lordievader> http://serverfault.com/questions/93218/linux-how-does-the-command-pvmove-work
[13:57] <skylite> ah I see
[13:58] <skylite> not THAT live
[13:58] <skylite> but still awesome
[13:58] <lordievader> There is no downtime? So live ;)
[14:04] <rbasak> frediz: around? I'm looking at the kimchi ITP now.
[14:05] <frediz> rbasak: Hi Robie, I'm in a meeting right now, I'll ping you when I'm done, ok ?
[14:05] <rbasak> frediz: no problem!
[14:08] <teward> rbasak: mind if i pick your brain?
[14:08] <teward> for an opinion at least
[14:09] <rbasak> teward: sure
[14:10] <teward> rbasak: so, this isn't new: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1194074
[14:10] <teward> rbasak: and there's already postinst controls to not overwrite
[14:10] <teward> if only things were in /var/www/html/...
[14:11] <teward> my thought is to have an Ubuntu-only delta (Debian won't, I've tried arguing it) that makes the default conf look there
[14:11] <teward> that fixes the 'default overwritten' problem
[14:11] <teward> but i want a second opinion before i make that delta
[14:12] <teward> i need to tweak the postinst, a little, but it'd 'work'
[14:12] <teward> (it takes a page from Apache)
[14:12] <teward> (or rather, the general approach)
[14:15] <teward> rbasak: thoughts on that?
[14:15] <rbasak> teward: I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're proposing. Is there a description somewhere?
[14:17] <teward> rbasak: the only thing i'm proposing is making a change in the default site config - i.e. apply what was done here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/wily/nginx/wily/view/head:/debian/conf/sites-available/default#L36   to older versions in the repositories
[14:17] <teward> rbasak: currently in older versions, it looks like /usr/share/nginx/html/... is the current docroot, and things get overwritten there, hence bug 1194074
[14:18] <teward> in later variants, logic exists that 'copies' the default index.html to /var/www/html/index.nginx-debian.html
[14:18] <teward> which protects against index.html overwriting
[14:19] <teward> I'd like to take that logic and apply it to the older pakages, such as trusty, etc.
[14:20] <teward> and apply the default configuration docroot from Wily to the older nginx packages.
[14:20] <teward> which makes the default document root a place where it won't be overwriting
[14:20] <teward> (the problem of that bug exists solely because users are using the 'default' location and that older 'default' location isn't 'protected' from the index.html overwrites because of the pakage manager)
[14:21] <teward> the big issue is that we can't prevent the overwriting in /usr/share/nginx/html/ without substantial scripting of the installation script to check... or we hange the default docroot
[14:21] <teward> the alternative is E:NoSolution
[14:23] <teward> rbasak: perhaps i should bring it up at the server team meeting next week, but it's a catch-22 situation
[14:24] <rbasak> teward: looks like there's more that has been changed than I've been aware of (in a good way) but that means I'm going to need to spend some time looking at the packaging again before I can answer you, sorry.
[14:24] <rbasak> I'm a bit tied up right now :-/
[14:24] <teward> 'tis fine
[14:25] <teward> rbasak: i'm fine leaving it as is, but people keep complaining to me about it :/
[14:36] <mdeslaur> rbasak: FYI, for memcached, (bug 1462747), the only delta that is remaining is the ubuntu version string
[14:36] <mdeslaur> rbasak: since nobody has stepped up to merge this, and the delta is a PITA with autotools, I am going to drop it
[14:36] <mdeslaur> rbasak: unless you find someone to take care of it
[14:43] <frediz> rbasak: ping
[14:43] <rbasak> frediz: hi!
[14:43] <frediz> :)
[14:44] <rbasak> frediz: first, sorry for the very long delay. I've been swamped and this has only just made it to the top of my todo.
[14:44] <rbasak> frediz: so I want to try and get it resolved asap so I don't need to get back to it.
[14:44] <frediz> rbasak: I guessed so and didn't want to spam you
[14:44] <rbasak> frediz: it's helpful that you're online, hopefully we can get it done now?
[14:44] <frediz> rbasak: if possible :)
[14:44] <frediz> rbasak: what would you need
[14:45] <rbasak> frediz: I barely even remember the last review, so I'm looking at this "from scratch". It looks good quality on first look at least - thank you.
[14:45] <rbasak> frediz: only one blocker so far, the other things are minor issues that I can point out but shouldn't block an upload
[14:45] <frediz> rbasak: let me know
[14:45] <rbasak> frediz: please tell me if I've already discussed these things with you and came to some kind of conclusion - I'm worried I've forgotten!
[14:46] <frediz> rbasak: well, I've forgotten a bit, but the last point I tried to improve base on your last recommendation
[14:46] <rbasak> frediz: we can't symlink from /etc to /usr/share/doc - for various technical reasons but it also turns out to violate Debian policy https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s12.3 "Packages must not require the existence of any files in /usr/share/doc/ in order to function"
[14:46] <rbasak> frediz: I think we can just additionally install the file to /etc directly, so we get normal conffile handling.
[14:47] <frediz> rbasak: oh
[14:47] <frediz> rbasak: Ok, I'll change that
[14:47] <rbasak> frediz: nothing else I've found so far is an issue for upload, though I haven't finished yet.
[14:48] <rbasak> frediz: would you like me to relay my notes so far here on IRC? If you're interested. Or I can just email them later.
[14:48] <frediz> rbasak: an email is ok. I'll look at it tomorrow morning and will act based on that and keep you updated
[14:49] <rbasak> frediz: OK, thanks!
[14:49] <frediz> rbasak: thanks a lot, that's nice. Are you at Debconf btw ?
[14:49] <hR13> Hi all, I have some problems with samba after I accidentaly upgrade  my zentyal install from 3.4 to 3.5. the webserver and samba dont seemes to start, I have added the bug #1090 patch. any help will be much appreciated
[14:49] <rbasak> frediz: unfortunately not, sorry.
[14:51] <rbasak> frediz: note that symlinking /etc/... to /usr/share/kimchi wouldn't violate policy but I'm still not keen on it since users normally expect to be able to edit files in /etc with no further effort, and conffile handling is a known thing. So I'd prefer to see it done that way - just by dh_install .install file to /etc for example. Then I know that all the standard expected stuff will work.
[14:52] <frediz> rbasak: No problem :)
[15:03] <rbasak> frediz: do you know why the binary is arch-specific? ISTR something about not being able to depend on arch-specific binaries in an arch: all package, but there don't seem to be any of those now.
[15:04] <rbasak> I think we have talked about this before but could it be that the original reason no longer applies now?
[15:09] <frediz> rbasak: I think that was because someone in the ITP didn't want to drag all the qemu packages for every arch
[15:11] <frediz> rbasak: that's it : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=772823#32
[15:14] <rbasak> frediz: oh, my mistake, sorry. I was looking at the amd64 binary deb only. The binary depends in source control file is still arch-specific which is why the the binary itself has to be, and that's exactly how I remember it. Sorry for the noise.
[15:14] <rbasak> (and I think we decided it wasn't worth splitting out an all package with the common bits at this stage)
[15:21] <zetheroo> I successfully got Ubuntu to join the AD domain with PBIS - the solution was to remove avahi-daemon
[15:21] <zetheroo> but now I am trying to get to the domain shares ... I guess it's using Samba ...
[15:34] <rbasak> frediz: ping again. Sorry, I want to resolve anything quickly that I think may be blocking. Not sure whether this is an issue or not. src/Makefile.am generates dhparams.pem with a comment "Generate unique Diffie-Hellman group with 2048-bit". Except it won't be unique as it is done once at build time, not for each user (eg. if they were consuming from upstream). Is this a problem?
[15:35] <rbasak> Whichever way it should go away as Debian has the reproducible build proposal, and this would break that. Either it should be fixed and committed upstream, or it should be done at install time, right?
[15:35] <rbasak> I don't know how important this is right now though. Do you have any thoughts?
[15:38] <arosales> any volunteers to chair th upcoming Ubuntu server meeting
[15:39] <rbasak> http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/70831/does-dh-parameter-file-need-to-be-unique-per-private-key suggests this shouldn't be a problem to me.
[15:40] <rbasak> Though now I understand why we might want to generate them at build time - then upstreams wouldn't be able to influence parameter choice, which makes the result auditable.
[15:40] <rbasak> I wonder how that will fit with reproducible builds though.
[15:40] <rbasak> mdeslaur: would you mind checking my logic above? I just want to make sure I'm not uploading something accidentally vulnerable.
[15:42] <mdeslaur> rbasak: yeah, it would be better to generate it at install time
[15:42] <mdeslaur> although at install time you then may hit an entropy issue
[15:42] <mdeslaur> so perhaps shipping one of the well-known ones is better, and paranoid users can regenerate if they want
[15:42] <rbasak> mdeslaur: OK, thanks. Is it acceptable to generate at build time for now, as that's what upstream do currently?
[15:43] <rbasak> mdeslaur: or should this be a blocking issue to fix before upload?
[15:43] <rbasak> (it's a new package)
[15:43] <mdeslaur> rbasak: build time is ok for now, until someone fixes it for reproduceable builds
[15:43] <rbasak> OK, thanks.
[15:43] <mdeslaur> although
[15:44] <mdeslaur> rbasak: is build-time what upstream does?
[15:44] <mdeslaur> ah ok, that's what you said
[15:44] <mdeslaur> so yeah, that's ok
[15:44] <rbasak> OK. Thanks!
[16:49] <ejat> hi .. anyone can help me with this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12119236/
[16:58] <andol> ejat: "No such file or directory - bad template: ubuntu-cloud" appear to be the problem.
[16:59] <andol> Aside from that, I have no idea what you have or haven't done.
[17:15] <ejat> andol : thanks
[17:42] <SuperLag> Canonical Landscape seems $$$$$$$$$.
[17:42] <SuperLag> if you guys have multiple Ubuntu machines to admin, and keep up to date... how do you do it efficiently?
[17:45] <quantic> SuperLag: I'd love an answer to that myself.
[17:49] <qman__> unattended-upgrades
[17:49] <qman__> I also use salt stack to some effect
[17:52] <qman__> for example, you could create a salt state to install and configure unattended-upgrades on all ubuntu systems
[17:53] <jpds> SuperLag: Well, those free updates don't come cheap to them
[17:54] <jpds> SuperLag: Maybe you should consider deploying RHEL instead
[17:59] <sarnold> jpds: *snort* :)
[19:03] <dasjoe> Don't forget there's a way to run Landscape locally, for up to 10 real and 10 virtual machines, iirc
[19:03] <SuperLag> Yes, but $700/server/year.... for 17 machines. That's just shy of $1K/mo.
[19:04] <dasjoe> Nobody forces you to use Landscape, you're free to use whatever config management tool you prefer
[19:04] <SuperLag> dasjoe: right. I'm just not familiar with the alternatives. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
[19:05] <dasjoe> SuperLag: okay, there are a few things to look at: Puppet, Chef, Ansible, Foreman, Katello, Cockpit-Project to name a few
[19:26] <SuperLag> dasjoe: I thought the automation stuff like Puppet/Chef was only for when you're initially deploying stuff, rather than for maintaining them after the fact?
[19:32] <dasjoe> SuperLag: no, they're not just for deployments, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_configuration_management_software
[21:29] <Treize> Awesome, Just what I was looking for! An Ubuntu Server Guide
[21:39] <halvors> Hi.
[21:39] <klagid> halvors: hello!
[21:40] <halvors> Anyone know how to read a session created by apache2 mod_php from a php script running in cli?
[21:40] <halvors> I have the session id.
[21:40] <halvors> Is there some locking in the picture here?
[21:40] <halvors> Will i be able to do this?
[21:44] <klagid> I am not 100% sure but i believe that you can
[23:25] <maccam94> i'm trying to remove some packages from my apt repository using reprepro, but i can't seem to get it to remove the files from the pool
[23:26] <maccam94> i'm stuck in a weird place now where i can't re-import the packages because reprepro thinks the files are already in the pool, and when I remove the packages it won't remove the pool files either
[23:27] <tarpman> maccam94: reprepro deleteunreferenced , perhaps
[23:27] <tarpman> maccam94: are you certain they aren't still used somewhere?
[23:27] <maccam94> that doesn't seem to do anything :(
[23:27] <maccam94> i don't think so, how can I check?
[23:28] <tarpman> hm. not sure
[23:28] <tarpman> grep for them in Packages/Release files, at least


[11:36] <NameHere> I have the Ubuntu Live CD, but when I choose to manually partition the disk, I cnat do it
[11:36] <johnnybuoy> no, not in ext3 at least
[11:36] <BenHelfman> MBR is master boot record
[11:36] <johnnybuoy> theshado1, ^
[11:36] <tyler_d> stunned: mbr = master boot record
[11:36] <BenHelfman> can  anyone help me with error on boot Failed to Allocate mem resource
[11:37] <tyler_d> BenHelfman: check your ram
[11:37] <stuNNed> tyler_d: i thought that was a virus.....
[11:37] <tyler_d> BenHelfman: do a ram test
[11:37] <johnnybuoy> :D
[11:37] <BenHelfman> ok
[11:37] <Chevyman> HorizonXP - i don't know about the USB key. google might help you.
[11:37] <tyler_d> BenHelfman: http://www.memtest.org/
[11:38] <stuNNed> tyler_d: i think MRB /reset installs a .dll in your Apple firmware that charges you 9.99 for the rest of eternity :(
[11:38] <tyler_d> stuNNed: he he he
[11:38] <tyler_d> stuNNed: umm....
[11:38] <NameHere> ANyone can help me with the Ubuntu Lice CD install?
[11:38] <astomper> my battery on my laptop doesn't charge.  I got a new battery and it won't charge either.  Does any one have an idea of what the problem might be?
[11:39] <NameHere> +L*Live
[11:39] <johnnybuoy> the charger?
[11:39] <astomper> johnnybuoy: but the ac works, could it still be the charger?
[11:39] <nitrocks> im trying to add beryl-manager to be automatically launched whenever i start my gnome session.. whenever i go to system>pref>sessions and add beryl to be loaded on start, it dissapears as soon as i close the window.  This happens even if i click "save session" why is this?
[11:40] <computermc> is there a way to scale all images a folder with gimp at once?
[11:40] <tyler_d> stuNNed: thats a microprocessor reset switch... where did you get that from?
[11:40] <johnnybuoy> nitrocks, do you havewrite permissions to the whole of your home directory?
[11:40] <grigor_> hello
[11:40] <nj786> hey does anybody know if there is a divx download forf linux
[11:40] <nj786> or does anybody know a program that plays divx
[11:40] <johnnybuoy> astomper, well, not, I wouldn't think so, then, the problem might be between the AC and the battery, inside the laptop
[11:40] <twikesh> !divx | nj786
[11:40] <ubotu> nj786: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:40] <astomper> totem does nj786
[11:41] <nj786> totem plays divx videos?
[11:41] <c01100011> !beryl
[11:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:41] <nitrocks> johnnybuoy: yes
[11:41] <nj786> astomper?
[11:41] <astomper> johnnybuoy, would you happen to know what the name of the part is, so I can order it?
[11:41] <astomper> nj786, yes, I'll find plugins for you
[11:41] <johnnybuoy> I don't think you can change it on your own...
[11:42] <nj786> astomper thanks
[11:42] <johnnybuoy> astomper, I think you should bring the laptop in to warranty repair, if you have warranty
[11:42] <Trixsey> People have those cool weather/temperature indicators on their desktop, where do they get them?   Thx for the time
[11:43] <johnnybuoy> nitrocks, $HOME/.gnome2/session ?
[11:44] <johnnybuoy> astomper, :) good luck!
[11:44] <astomper> Trixsey, right click on the tool bar and add to panel
[11:44] <navets> i need s-video help, i have it set up but when i try to watch movies, it shows a blue screen on my tv where the movie is playing on my laptop
[11:44] <Chevyman> epp - modprobe -r fglrx  to remove fglrx might work.
[11:44] <petr4> hello. when I try to use synaptic to install any package (even those that have ubuntu logo) I get warning about package could not be verified. I do have Ubuntu package signing keys installed. Does anyone experience it too?
[11:45] <astomper> petr4, yes, I ignore
[11:45] <Trixsey> astomper, I want it on the desktop, with a graphical representation
[11:45] <Trixsey> like.. a big cloud if rain is coming
[11:45] <Trixsey> I saw people had that
[11:45] <Trixsey> kinda like in Vista
[11:45] <astomper> like the whole background?
[11:45] <astomper> thats kool
[11:45] <Trixsey> like a part of the background
[11:45] <petr4> astomper: when did it start? for me it is no longer than week
[11:46] <Trixsey> not the entire thing
[11:46] <Trixsey> kinda like cairo-clock
[11:46] <Trixsey> but with weather
[11:46] <epp> Chevyman now should i restart or restart x?
[11:46] <johnnybuoy> still noone to help me with a xen problem?
[11:46] <cbpye> Trixsey: sounds like LiquidWeather+
[11:46] <astomper> petr4, not sure, but it wasn't always.  I don't think its a big deal though
[11:46] <astomper> what xen prob johnnybuoy?
[11:47] <petr4> astomper: well, i am connected through insecure network
[11:47] <cbpye> Trixsey: http://liquidweather.net/
[11:47] <muszek> hi... is there a way to mount a partition via fstab in a way that doesn't result in computer waiting for my input during boot if that drive is not physically connected to a computer?
[11:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Any dpkg experts here?  Does the --ignore-depends=package option mean that if I give the command 'dpkg -i --ignore-depends=dep_package newpackage.deb', it will allow newpackage.deb to be installed even if dep_package is not?
[11:47] <astomper> petr4, oh, thats different
[11:49] <nielsbosworth> Hi. I connect my mobile via usb, but it isn't automounted. Where do I look for settings to set mount up manually
[11:49] <cbpye> anyone know what the deal is with Wine packages for AMD64? DEBs for the new release and the previous release were never posted.
[11:51] <BenHelfman> I get following error trying to boot Ubuntu for first time, PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6.  Someone earlier suggested I do mem test which am doing and is 69% without errors so far but this appears on other boards to be a problem with PCI board.  I am running Sony Vaio VGN-SZ220 lap top
[11:51] <nj786> astomper, i still cannot play any divx videos
[11:51] <nj786> online
[11:52] <nj786> astomper are u there?
[11:52] <tyler_d> !divx : nj786
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about divx : nj786 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <tyler_d> !divx
[11:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:53] <nj786> does anybody know a program that pplays divx videos?
[11:53] <johnnybuoy> !codecs > nj786
[11:53] <tyler_d> nj786: vlc
[11:53] <nj786> vlc plays divx videos?
[11:53] <nj786> from online?
[11:54] <stuNNed> how come there ain't no gstreamer-quicktime.ubuntu.i386.deb package?  daaanngg!   I just installed ubuntu on my laptop (previously gentoo), and I must say, it rocks..  I love having everything just work "out of the box" :-P
[11:54] <bendavis78> One thing I noticed though, is that it's not showing the boot screen when it boots up.
[11:55] <bendavis78> I have to hit ctrl+alt+F<something> to see anything happening
[11:55] <punsad> my xubuntu install is screwed up.  Is there a way to re-install it without having to reinstall ubuntu.  The problem was that I apt-get install various bits and pieces of xfce instead of just installing xubunu-desktop.    THere's no wm.
[11:55] <pseudo> salut
[11:55] <tyler_d> bendavis78: boot screen? what kind of video card?
[11:55] <pseudo> hi
[11:55] <bendavis78> tyler_d: i810
[11:56] <BenHelfman> I can't get ubuntu to boot it freezes on an error that includes the language ...PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6 and never gets past there
[11:56] <tyler_d> bendavis78: thats wierd, did you try booting from a live cd? did you get the boot screen then?... did you install the latest drivers? what version are you running?
[11:56] <tyler_d> BenHelfman: http://memtest.org
[11:56] <Kuma_> HI someone wants to chat with me?
[11:57] <BenHelfman> tyler_d even though it says PCI: ?
[11:57] <bendavis78> tyler_d: I didn't get a boot screen w/ the livecd either. had to install in text mode.
[11:57] <tyler_d> bendavis78: wow... did you update the drivers?
[11:57] <tyler_d> BenHelfman: did you try pulling the pci cards...
[11:57] <bendavis78> tyler_d: haven't tried that yet,  what would the package name be for the drivers?
[11:58] <tyler_d> bendavis78: what manufacturer?
[11:58] <bendavis78> Dell
[11:58] <tyler_d> intel?
[11:58] <BenHelfman> tyler_d I will try that.  It is a sony vaio laptop model VGN-SZ220
[11:58] <albertmk> Can anyone tell me how to separate icons in different workplaces?
[11:59] <johnnybuoy> still noone with any help with xen?
[11:59] <albertmk> Can anyone tell me how to separate icons in different workplaces
[12:00] <bendavis78> The laptop is a Dell C600
[12:00] <bendavis78> it's kinda old, but still runs like a champ
[12:00] <nj786> does VLC play divx movies online?
[12:00] <bendavis78> I was amazed that beryl ran on it so smoothly
[12:00] <bendavis78> I was expecting 1fps :-P
[12:00] <corrupt> when trying to quit ubuntu, all of a sudden i noticed there's no restart or shutdown button, what gives?


[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #126224 in malone "When remove an attachment, remove also the comment entry" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126224
[05:30] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #126244 in rosetta "translations need string type and context" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126244
[07:13] <Lipe_> hi guys, I hae a question about the new filters when translating a package in rosetta. who can help me?
[09:02] <mdke> if there are any vcs-import people around, I've requested one at https://launchpad.net/gnome-user-docs/trunk
[09:20] <mwhudson> mdke: okidoke
[09:26] <mdke> thanks mwhudson
[09:56] <mwhudson> who approved mdke's import?
[09:56] <mwhudson> i hadn't gotten to it on the list yet
[09:56] <mactimes> Hello there.  I have just created an account at launchpad and I was wondering what would be next step in order to help the Ubuntu project.
[09:56] <mwhudson> oh oops
[09:56] <mwhudson> nm
[10:02] <mactimes> Anyways, I'll come back later.  Cheers everyone.
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[05:21] <mman> hi all
[05:21] <mman> Anyone willing to explain me few distro specific things in launchpad.net?
[05:25] <mman> How do I register new milestone or series for my distribution?
[05:46] <danilos> hi carlos
[05:46] <carlos> danilos: hey dude!
[05:46] <carlos> long time!
[05:46] <carlos> :-P
[05:46] <danilos> carlos: indeed
[05:46] <danilos> carlos: I finally found a spot with working internet :)
[05:47] <carlos> :-P
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #126368 in launchpad-answers "Search FAQs from Answers front page." [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126368
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[06:30] <flacoste> Hobbsee:  on a plane to Portlant
[06:30] <flacoste> Portland
[06:30] <geser> is it possible for a package for PPA to build-depend on another package from my PPA?
[06:30] <Hobbsee> flacoste: ahhhh.  right then.  then he can be excused for not being on irc :)
[07:51] <TABASCO> Good evening
[07:51] <TABASCO> Can anyone explain me what a "Sprint" is?
[07:52] <TABASCO> I am the translater for the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter and I have no idea how to describe it in german ;)
[07:53] <Spads> TABASCO: sprinting is the English word for running very fast for a short distance
[07:53] <Spads> TABASCO: I believe it is often called a "dash" in olympic events
[07:53] <TABASCO> Spads: That's the same in german, but I gues it has a different meaning in the launchpad
[07:54] <TABASCO> That's what I found in the UWN Issue 47:
[07:54] <TABASCO> [07:54] <TABASCO>  * Adding a dependency will now be easier, especially for projects with large numbers of blueprints.
[07:54] <TABASCO>  * When registering a new blueprint, you'll be able to propose a sprint at which to discuss it. The sprint will be automatically populated if you register the blueprint from a sprint page.
[07:54] <Spads> TABASCO: it's become common for larger projects to hold events they call "sprints" where developers coordinate and have meetings and try to get a lot done in a short period of time
[07:55] <TABASCO> ah, okay
[07:55] <Nafallo> TABASCO: fly people over to the same physical room instead of IRC-rooms basically ;-)
[07:55] <Spads> yes
[07:55] <Spads> a core group almost always meets in person
[07:55] <Spads> but the increased activity can be felt on IRC
[07:55] <TABASCO> Nafallo: :D
[07:56] <TABASCO> my home is called freenode..
[07:56] <Nafallo> Spads: you mean since everyone is chatting IRL instead of on IRC? ;-)
[07:56] <TABASCO> well, how can I translate it into german..
[07:57] <TABASCO> anyone here who speaks german?
[07:57] <Nafallo> TABASCO: #ubuntu-de? :-)
[07:57] <Spads> there may already be an official translation
[07:57] <TABASCO> Nafallo: I believe they have no idea what the sprints in the launchpad means
[07:57] <TABASCO> Spads: But the launchpad is in english
[07:58] <Nafallo> TABASCO: explain the word for them and you have a lot of more luck to get a reply in german :-)
[07:58] <TABASCO> I am the controller of the German Translation, so it's my task to find the right words :)
[07:58] <TABASCO> Maybe I should create a new word...
[07:59] <TABASCO> something like "Sauerkraut" ;)
[07:59] <radix> hehe
[07:59] <TABASCO> no just a joke
[07:59] <Nafallo> TABASCO: I good controller would ask his/her community
[07:59] <TABASCO> Nafallo: I already did so
[07:59] <TABASCO> But they have no idea what a sprint is
[07:59] <TABASCO> :)
[07:59] <TABASCO> and at the moment there is only one of our translators available
[08:00] <Nafallo> TABASCO: then explain to them in the same way we did to you and one of them might know a good word.
[08:00] <TABASCO> by the way, can you say me how my english is?
[08:00] <TABASCO> Nafallo: Yes, that's what I just did
[08:01] <Nafallo> I'm Swedish myself. Will be moving to London next month though :-).
[08:01] <TABASCO> cool
[08:01] <TABASCO> mhm... can you give me another word for "sprint"?
[08:01] <TABASCO> Maybe calendar?
[08:01] <TABASCO> or timetable?
[08:01] <Nafallo> meeting maybe?
[08:01] <radix> "physical meeting"
[08:01] <Nafallo> developer meeting?
[08:02] <TABASCO> is it a meating in reallife?
[08:02] <radix> TABASCO: yes
[08:02] <TABASCO> ah.. so that's important to know
[08:02] <Nafallo> TABASCO: that's what I told you. place everyone in the same room instead of IRC-room.
[08:02] <TABASCO> ahhh...
[08:02] <TABASCO> Okay I missunderstood you
[08:03] <Nafallo> no problem :-)
[08:03] <TABASCO> mis
[08:03] <TABASCO> Nafallo: I thought you were trying to explain me what "to sprint" means normaly
[08:04] <Nafallo> no. this is the sprint YOU want to know about :-)
[08:04] <TABASCO> yeah, I got it
[08:04] <TABASCO> okay, perfect
[08:05] <TABASCO> Whoa, I will be forced to spent a lot of time in vacations to train my english..
[08:06] <TABASCO> I am now sixteen and for the last three years I had a unbelieveable bad english teacher...
[08:10] <LarstiQ> imho, you should just use 'sprint' as is.
[08:10] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_%28development%29#Sprint
[08:10] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackathon#Sprints
[08:11] <TABASCO> LarstiQ: I have now "Sprints" and after that a desciption what it means
[08:11] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: cool.
[08:11] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: you're welcome to come to the next Bazaar sprint, it's good for your English ;)
[08:12] <TABASCO> Or I write:
[08:12] <TABASCO> "sprints
[08:12] <TABASCO>  for further questions come and visit #launchpad on freenode..."
[08:12] <TABASCO> ;)
[08:12] <TABASCO> LarstiQ: You are in Bazaar?
[08:13] <TABASCO> I guess it's a software for developing software or something, right?
[08:14] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: I work on Bazaar, which is indeed a version control system.
[08:14] <TABASCO> LarstiQ: Great - how can I come into the sprint?
[08:15] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: well, we just had our previous one last week, so we'll have some downtime now.
[08:15] <TABASCO> LarstiQ: Ah, okay
[08:15] <LarstiQ> not sure when or where our next one will be held.
[08:16] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: but if you want to get involved, subscribe to the announce list and you should get email about the next one.
[08:16] <TABASCO> LarstiQ: Where can I find the list? I am not very active in the launchpad, only in the Ubuntu Wiki
[08:16] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/bazaar-announce
[08:17] <TABASCO> Is "Sprint" male or female?
[08:17] <LarstiQ> neither :)
[08:18] <TABASCO> hum..
[08:18] <TABASCO> Damn german language
[08:18] <LarstiQ> das Sprint?
[08:18] <TABASCO> ...the sprint... so what, "the sprint"!...
[08:18] <TABASCO> it is so easy in english...
[08:18] <LarstiQ> doesn't the wikipedia entry have a german translation?
[08:18] <TABASCO> well, if it is not male and not female :)
[08:19] <TABASCO> ah.... interesting
[08:19] <LarstiQ> Zentrales Element von Scrum ist der Sprint.
[08:19] <TABASCO> Yeah, I found it
[08:19] <LarstiQ> not that I have any idea if that is correct German or not.
[08:20] <TABASCO> LarstiQ: You are not able to speak german?
[08:21] <TABASCO> "he sprint will be automatically populated if you register the blueprint from a sprint page."
[08:21] <TABASCO> populated? Will they have sex in the launchpad?
[08:22] <radix> "populated" is jargon for "filled out" or "have data inserted"
[08:22] <TABASCO> ah, okay
[08:23] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: I can fake it, but I don't have actual knowledge of the language.
[08:23] <TABASCO> too bad that we do not learn something like this in school..
[08:23] <TABASCO> Not bad
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[08:35] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: ah, I had half a year of German. Actually being able to understand it is probably helped more by years of visiting demo parties/conferences.
[08:36] <TABASCO> LarstiQ: If you want to get it teached, just add me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>;)
[08:37] <LarstiQ> TABASCO: know what you ask for :P
[10:22] <mdke> mwhudson: great, thanks
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