[06:40] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: ddrescue or photorec - which one is easier, then?  And what the specific terminal commands that I use once this backup completes?
[06:40] <newbuntguy> OK HOMI
[06:40] <skilz> OmegaForte: I recall one of my old boxes done exactly that, played audio throught the pc speaker. So it must be possible to re-create this.
[06:41] <OmegaForte> skilz, The PC speaker is powered by a 4 bit analog, driverless system. You'd have to connect it to a device that can actually process sound.
[06:42] <adzy> OmegaForte, Yea its time for an upgrade this dell laptop is not cutting it!
[06:42] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: photorec it is more interactive . sudo photorec <the_img_file_that_dd_created>
[06:42] <skilz> OmegaForte: What if I set up the pc speaker as an output device for your sound subsystem, and then playback the MP3 files with any MP3 player software?
[06:42] <newbuntguy> OmegaForte:should i bounce unity or what?
[06:43] <OmegaForte> skilz, You missed the whole possibility of that being shot down. The PC speaker isn't powered by an encoder/decoder set. It's driverless. You cannot pass non serial data to it.
[06:43] <OmegaForte> adzy, And make it a new dell. Most of them work OTB with most debian distros.
[06:43] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: OK - pretty simple.  "sudo [name of tool] [name of img fiile]"  So it would be "sudo ddrescue usbbak.img" too, then - right?
[06:43] <OmegaForte> newbuntguy, Unity was designed for Netbooks and stuff like ipads. Single screen, low powered devices.
[06:43] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: What does it do, then - like populate some directory with all the jpgs reference in the img file or something?
[06:43] <adzy> OmegaForte, Yea its lasted 3 years but i put a magnet on hdd accidentially and now its started to fail lol
[06:44] <skilz> OmegaForte: http://www.armadeus.com/wiki/index.php?title=PWM
[06:44] <newbuntguy> OmegaForte:and
[06:44] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: ddrescue work differently
[06:44] <OmegaForte> skilz, And your PC can't do that, idiot.
[06:44] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: OK - so that is what photorec does?
[06:44] <newbuntguy> OmegaForte:questin was should i get rid of it :and would it help
[06:45] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: it try to recover any file.
[06:45] <skilz> OmegaForte: Why not?
[06:45] <OmegaForte> adzy, A magnet won't hurt a hard drive. Proven. You probably caused a cap to offset and output bad power for a tick, and it just let a minor issue develop.
[06:46] <newbuntguy> OmegaForte:thhis is the worst os i have ever used
[06:46] <OmegaForte> skilz, Because PC's don't have APF transistors. Learn electronics.
[06:46] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: "recover" mean it does what - actually ... to the file?
[06:46] <isbric> Morning!, coes anyone have a good software load balancer equalent of balance? we are upgrading to 10.04 and this makes for a great time to try somthing new. esp when the old configuration doesnt work with the new version of balance :P
[06:46] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: yes
[06:46] <newbuntguy> have to command line everything
[06:46] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: try to scan the whole image/device  and extract the file out without the help of filesystem
[06:46] <OmegaForte> newbuntguy, No, it's the worst UI you've used. Log out with the LOG OUT function in the bar, and click the dropbox where Unity is, set it to Ubuntu Classic. And CLI assists in Debugging.  What?
[06:48] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: I see.  So it then tries extracting out the files to some default location?
[06:48] <newbuntguy> i do not see unity
[06:48] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: yes
[06:48] <OmegaForte> newbuntguy, Look down at the bottom of the monitor.
[06:48] <especially-corn> i mean kind of like in windows, if you don't install the drivers correctly you get "unknown device" and every time you connect that thing you always get "unknown device" instead of getting a chance to reinstall the drivers
[06:48] <especially-corn> so you have to remove them completely and then try again
[06:48] <OmegaForte> newbuntguy, It's there.  If the driver didn't load, or failed to load, replugging it will give it another go. However this won't fix a bad driver install, which you'll have to deal with manually.
[06:49] <skilz> OmegaForte: try googling for pwm audio driver linux
[06:49] <OmegaForte> skilz, For specific hardware. 100/100 your PC ain't got it.
[06:50] <adzy> how do i open multiple terminal windows>?
[06:50] <especially-corn> OmegaForte, it doesn't work anymore, yesterday i bought a keyboard with 2 hubs included, it worked flawlessly, that is, until i used the 2 hubs, now it doesn't work anymore
[06:50] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: right.  Good deal.  The file size is now at 8.5 GB.  I can't remember how much data was on the thing - but it is definitely over halfway done ...
[06:50] <OmegaForte> skilz, That stuff is for things like PHONES that use PWM for tone generation, alerting and getting you to clam them hell up.
[06:50] <OmegaForte> especially-corn, Does it work in another port or system?
[06:50] <especially-corn> OmegaForte, it works on another system
[06:50] <skilz> OmegaForte: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_speaker
[06:50] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: 8.5GB ? i think yours is 16GB drive.
[06:51] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: it should be 16GB file or your drive is truely faulty
[06:51] <skilz> OmegaForte: I believe I have proven you wrong! pwm converts analog (or, digital audio, a quasi-analog) signal into a serial stream of 0 and 1
[06:51] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: right.  which is why it is over halfway finished ...
[06:51] <kcj> How do I edit my keyboard layout (edit != change)? I want to swap my ctrl and alt keys so that using Emacs doesn't hurt.
[06:51] <OmegaForte> especially-corn, Okay. Then you've probably generated a bus conflict. Something a DEVELOPED driver system like windows can handle. Linux'es drivers are written by people who want the driver...Hang on dude.
[06:51] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: you mean the dd isn't finished yet?
[06:52] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: no - it isn't ...
[06:52] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: OK~
[06:52] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: there are a lot of pictures on there, so ...
[06:52] <OmegaForte> skilz, For DRIVER-RAN SYSTEMS. Your PC speaker isn't DRIVER RAN. It's RAW SERIAL. You would need a SERIAL INTERPRETER BETWEEN THAT DEVICE and THE DRIVER..Which your PC speaker DOESN'T HAVE.
[06:52]  * rww turns down OmegaForte's volume
[06:52] <skilz> There is a kernel module named snd-pcsp.ko which may be of interest to you!
[06:52] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: doesn't matter ~ even it is a empty new drive , dd will give you 16GB file.
[06:53] <especially-corn> OmegaForte, yes, thats what i meant, i want my system to "forget" what this keyboard means because i suspect it still thinks my phone is somehow connected to the system,
[06:53] <especially-corn> through it
[06:53] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: Oh I see.  That is kind of what I thought ...
[06:53] <OmegaForte> skilz, Pc manufacturers stopped putting drivers in the bios frontend for the PC speaker four years ago.
[06:53] <jpds> rww: What do you think 'forte' means?
[06:53] <skilz> OmegaForte: This pc is around 9 years old!
[06:53] <OmegaForte> especially-corn, Well, I don't know how to do that, but have you given the system a good power cycle?
[06:53] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: so all the picture files I had on there will be captured in this 16GB rollup, then?  Is that the idea?
[06:53] <OmegaForte> skilz, Then how are...WAit...I keep forgetting. Debian will run on a toaster..
[06:54] <especially-corn> OmegaForte, yep, unplugged and stuff
[06:54] <OmegaForte> skilz, Then take your old box and cram it.
[06:54] <skilz> :P
[06:54] <kcj> Is anyone even on-topic here?
[06:54] <bumblebee> hello
[06:54] <OmegaForte> especially-corn, Well, plug it in and see what "dmesg | grep -i usb" outputs.
[06:55] <skilz> 16:54 < jmarsden> skilz: ask this guy what snd-pcsp.ko is, if it is not a pc speaker driver :)
[06:55] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: it is a 1:1 drive image. you can backup and restore a drive with dd. and from which , you can recover data too . if it is a working drive you can even mount the image file as if it is a drive.
[06:55] <OmegaForte> skilz, A speaker driver, and a sound driver are different.
[06:55] <corinth> Is there any option for exchange email in Ubuntu?
[06:56] <OmegaForte> skilz, Just go to wikipedia and figure it out.
[06:56] <Carmen_Sandiego> sup, brobuntus?
[06:56] <jpds> corinth: Evolution?
[06:56] <OmegaForte> Carmen_Sandiego, Make them take off their stupid goggles...Please?
[06:56] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651:  we doing this ~ so should your USB really failling ~ you get a copy of the USB asap  , minize the chance of data lost.
[06:56] <skilz> OmegaForte: snd-pcsp as in sound pc speaker :p
[06:56] <especially-corn> OmegaForte, http://paste.ubuntu.com/660941/
[06:56] <corinth> jpds: Does Evolution support exchange email and calendaring? I didn't think that it did....
[06:57] <isbric> anyone running balance on 10.04 or later?
[06:57] <OmegaForte> especially-corn, Is -:-:-.000E the keyboard that was plugged in; and now is not?
[06:57] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: if you don't back up ~ you can just run sudo photorec /dev/sdb :)
[06:57] <OmegaForte> skilz, Go sit through an electronics engineering class for me homie...Just learn something...And stop harassing me.
[06:58] <kcj> How do I edit my keyboard layout (edit != change)? I want to swap my ctrl and alt keys so that using Emacs doesn't hurt.
[06:58] <rww> fail!
[06:58] <skilz> OmegaForte: Playing pwm audio through speaker, with signal generated by software, was very common at a time when sound cards weren't that common.
[06:58] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: backing up to harddrive make your data safe and harddrive work faster then USB thumb drive in datarecovery (photorec)
[06:59] <skilz> OmegaForte: You claim to be an electronics expert yet you use frankenbuntu?  Shame......
[06:59] <especially-corn> OmegaForte, don't know, i did a before and after unplugging
[06:59] <especially-corn> OmegaForte, everything i pasted was after i plugged it in
[06:59] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: yeah - good call.  It's good we are doing both.  I don't know - I think it the USB just got formatted wrong when initially plugged it - to backup my pictures before reformatting ...  It is currently formatted as FAT.  Is there a way to reformat it?  What format is Ubuntu 11.04 in - or what format does this flash drive have to be formatted in for it to be successfully read by my Linux machine, I guess?
[06:59] <RedWar> Frakenbuntu?
[06:59] <RedWar> Whats that?
[06:59] <skilz> Ubuntu
[07:00] <RedWar> oh..ok lol  Just never heard that term before
[07:00] <OmegaForte> rww...Can you save me from this pinhead?
[07:00] <especially-corn> OmegaForte, look http://paste.ubuntu.com/660943/
[07:00] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: Thanks for all your help, by the way.  I have usually been successful in getting my problems solved on here - but not always.  Sometimes failure has just been due to the nature of the problem, though ...
[07:01] <OmegaForte> especially-corn, It looks like it sees something..
[07:01] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: linux do read FAT16 and FAT32 ~ but not ExFAT . but FAT is outdated. use NTFS if you use windows with it or else just ext4
[07:01] <paijo_> i think fat can be read by linux flawlessly
[07:01] <OmegaForte> skilz, Did you know fourty years ago we could generate 24 tones over a serial bus to a speaker...That was driven?
[07:01] <especially-corn> OmegaForte, yes, it  does, but it doesn't work as it should
[07:02] <skilz> OmegaForte: Please don't get upset! You don't like to be proven wrong?
[07:02] <OmegaForte> skilz, Did you also know that computer components used to cost more than some cars?
[07:02] <wsbl-uhpd651> paijo_: I should think so, because my machine read it fine the first time I plugged it in.  So I don't know what the deal is - sometimes Ubuntu is just kinda "squirrely" ...
[07:02] <skilz> OmegaForte: I sure did!
[07:05] <rawfodog> Hey guys, I have ftp folders bookmarked in ubuntu, all I have to do is click the folder on my nautilus window and bam I'm there. WELL, I want to access the folder this easily in terminal/bash because I will be editing the files on the server with NANO. How do I easily access these folders without having to do some bash FTP stuff
[07:06] <noahbanks> glenihan: I did it! I'm up and running.
[07:06] <dc5ala> rawfodog, you mean editing directly on remote ftp?
[07:06] <jpds> rawfodog: Look for them in ~/.gvfs ?
[07:06] <auronandace> !yay | noahbanks
[07:06] <noahbanks> Does anyone know if I am able to reinstall OS X if I fully install Ubuntu 10.04?
[07:07] <rawfodog> yeah, but going into that folder easily (cd /remote folder that I have bookmarked in my gnome session)
[07:07] <zabomber> hi. anyone know how to setup dropbox through the terminal?
[07:08] <noahbanks> glebihan: I did it! I'm up and running.
[07:08] <wildbat> rawfodog: you can access the nautilus mounted with ~/.gvfs
[07:08] <rawfodog> nice this will work I think
[07:10] <wildbat>  !info curlftpfs | rawfodog , you may wanna have a look
[07:10] <noahbanks> Does anyone know if I can install ubuntu 10.04 and boot OS X 10.5 from a CD/Thumb drive?
[07:11] <rawfodog> Oh man, works like a charm thanks guys
[07:12] <noahbanks> Does anyone know if I can install ubuntu 10.04 and boot OS X 10.5 from a CD/Thumb drive?
[07:13] <IdleOne> noahbanks: ask Apple about booting OSX
[07:13] <wildbat> noahbanks: idk about OSX ~ but ubuntu yes ~ you can install in a thumb.
[07:13] <auronandace> noahbanks: does the osx liscence allow you to install to a usb stick (a little off-topic)
[07:13] <IdleOne> not a little
[07:13] <IdleOne> !ot
[07:14] <noahbanks> auronandace: I think I can image it to a CD and boot from that in a worst-case scenario.
[07:14] <intrader> Anyone, using Simple Backup I have saved /var /home /usr /etc. I would like to restore thunderbird to its configuration saved by the backup; need some help.
[07:15] <zabomber> is there some sort of Remote Desktop ability for an ubuntu server via the web?
[07:15] <luaa> hey, I have trouble with installing this: https://github.com/LuaDist/lua-xmlreader
[07:15] <zabomber> i want to be able to remote desktop my ubuntu server at home via a webbrowser at work
[07:15] <ph8> zabomber, ssh you mean?
[07:15] <luaa> can someone help me?
[07:16] <zabomber> ph8: no. i have all that setup
[07:16] <rypervenche> zabomber: ssh via the terminal
[07:16] <luaa> what should I execute in my terminal?
[07:16] <intrader> zabomber, yes VNC
[07:16] <zabomber> intrader: nope.. i have that...
[07:16] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: so in case I wanted to reformat this flash drive to ExFAT or ext4 - how would I go about doing this?
[07:16] <luaa> sudo Makefile?
[07:16] <zabomber> im specifically looking for webbrowser based remote desktop like windows allows via IIS?
[07:16] <intrader> zabomber, Ok, you know then.
[07:16] <zabomber> reason being
[07:17] <zabomber> is that work only allows port 80 and 443 open and are filtering those ports so i can't proxy through them and VNC
[07:17] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: nono to ExFAT~ NTFS or ext4. you can use gparted.
[07:17] <zabomber> so i was wondering if there was a mod for apache or something i could install that woudl display a webpage with my desktop...
[07:18] <intrader> zabomber, I see your good reasons and I know of webdav.
[07:18] <zabomber> intrader: webdav?
[07:18] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: you may need a wipe first.~ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=32K       *** this will wipe the drive make sure which sdX you are going to***
[07:19] <intrader> zabomber, a protocol for web access.
[07:19] <zabomber> intrader: runs on apache?
[07:19] <ajay> hey
[07:19] <intrader> zabomber, I don't know.
[07:20] <ajay> quick q -- upgrading from 9.10 to 11.x, is it _really_ required to hit everything in between?
[07:20] <zabomber> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107503
[07:21] <iceroot> ajay: yes
[07:21] <accel> upgrading has never worked well for me
[07:21] <accel> I generally just backup all the data + do a fresh isntall
[07:21] <iceroot> ajay: everything else is not official supported
[07:21] <intrader> zabomber, http://samiux.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/howto-webdav-on-ubuntu-9-04-server/ may help
[07:22] <ajay> icekk_: i don't know if my HDD space will support that! ;^)
[07:22] <iceroot> ajay: what is the output of "df -h"?
[07:22] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Mate, I did one last week - one of my own, and I prefer doing a clean install - however, I did the 9.04 to 10.04 then to 10.10 and stopped there. I *could* have gone to 11.04, but in reality, the machine is old and I don't like 11.04's *lack* of things...
[07:22] <iceroot> !paste | ajay
[07:24] <newbuntguy> first off i want to start my aplg by saying i rely aprcat this resource. and seconndly thanks for the push in the right direction .PROBLEM SOLVED
[07:24] <ajay> icekk_: it's got 2 GB left.  one partition. all in /
[07:24] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Back it up, blow it out.
[07:25] <ajay> YankDownUnder: oh i think i burned a CD too, don't remember where i put it.. :)  I think I'd prefer a clean install too.  That's what I'm going to do w/ my desktop..
[07:25] <ajay> YankDownUnder: what's 11 lacking?  I've got an old notebook too, i'm only upgrading from 9 because it's not supported, and wifi never (really) worked anyway
[07:25] <rawfodog> in bash I hit ctrl z to stop a job. How do I continue it ?
[07:25] <ph8> rawfodog, type fg or bg
[07:25] <ph8> foreground or background
[07:25] <newbuntguy> my advice to people is to trust your intuition and listen to what people have to say.
[07:25] <ph8> depending on what you want
[07:25] <rawfodog> thanks ph8 :D
[07:26] <ph8> np
[07:26] <ajay> newbuntguy: dunno if that was random or directed, but listening to people (imho) can make it harder to hear/trust your intuition :)
[07:27] <newbuntguy> sometimes someone will say something that will make you think
[07:27] <YankDownUnder> ajay, If yer hardware is "older", don't be fooled into thinking that the "newer" is going to be faster, or better...this is LINUX...whether or not it's supported doesn't really come into the issue...does it work? Can you get things to work that don't work? It's worth a thought. I've made the mistakes of upgrading older hardware only to find that things moved heaps slower...ergo, downgraded and dealt with it.
[07:27] <ajay> true that
[07:28] <rainbone> hello\
[07:28] <newbuntguy> even when it isnt exactly what you are looking for intuition trust it
[07:28] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Upgrade to 10.04. It's an LTS version, you're good till 2013.
[07:28] <ajay> YankDownUnder: i hope it's faster, of course, but yeah i know that's not the trend :)  the wifi is really the kicker..
[07:28] <newbuntguy> that doesnt make any sence like that but i know what i mean
[07:28] <urlin2u> #ubuntu-offtopic  try it
[07:29] <YankDownUnder> urlin2u, STFU, try it.
[07:29] <rawfodog> : |
[07:29] <urlin2u> YankDownUnder, you know the rules I was being friendly.;)
[07:29] <rawfodog> Hey let's bash the guys giving free tech support.
[07:29] <rawfodog> durp
[07:30] <YankDownUnder> urlin2u, I also make money giving PRACTICAL UBUNTU SUPPORT, and with a sense of humour...ahem...
[07:30] <urlin2u> k
[07:30] <rawfodog> lol
[07:30] <YankDownUnder> ...meanwhile, back at the ranch...
[07:30] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: which one - NTFS, probably?  I just found these instructions online: http://www.ehow.com/how_4963426_format-usb-flash-drive-ubuntu.html
[07:32] <ajay> on my main system I want to stay current though.. damn 10.04 runs like sh* on there right now though.. alas..
[07:32] <YankDownUnder> ajay, If 10.04 runs slowly, have you thought about tweaking it to make it more optimised?
[07:33] <rabbit1> unable to connect to internet through huawei 3g e-stick on ubuntu 10.04, please help
[07:33] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Cars are not "tuned for performace" when you buy them off the lot. You have to tweak and tune them to YOUR specs...ditto with your OS...
[07:34] <ajay> YankDownUnder: it just feels easier to blow it out, it's way annoying.. too often X just locks up the whole system. (mouse moves, but i can't do anything else). gross
[07:34] <ajay> YankDownUnder: what is 11 missing for you?
[07:34] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Well, blowing it out and starting again with 10.04 or 10.10 is a good thing...however, think about things through and through...
[07:35] <newbuntguy> virtualbox up and running
[07:35] <ajay> YankDownUnder: I like staying current, so i'll do 11, most likely. i don't know what you're saying
[07:35] <newbuntguy> no errors
[07:35] <nickSwe> where do I find my fstab file in ubuntu for automatically mounting drives upon logon?
[07:35] <YankDownUnder> ajay, And 11.04 is missing the "friendliness" of window managers and choice...albeit, if you're happy to move into an alien territory with Unity and lack of features you may have been happy with in 10.04...well, your choice...
[07:35] <ajay> YankDownUnder: there's no compiz?
[07:36] <iceroot> ajay: of course there is compiz
[07:36] <urlin2u> nickSwe, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:36] <newbuntguy> natty up and running in classic
[07:36] <iceroot> nickSwe: /etc/fstab
[07:36] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: NTFS if you use it with windowa
[07:36] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Oh yeah, there's compiz...however, there are heaps of issues with Unity that you may NOT dig...
[07:36] <nickSwe> urlin2u, iceroot: thanks!
[07:36] <ajay> i don't really know what unity is.. (I keep thinking it's that weird netbook interface?)
[07:36] <iceroot> ajay: what is the reason you want to update?
[07:36] <_ramo> Hi
[07:36] <iceroot> ajay: yes, its the netbook interface
[07:37] <newbuntguy> file sharing up and running
[07:37] <newbuntguy> everything is copsetic
[07:37] <ajay> icekk_: notebook - to get wifi working. desktop - want to be current, and current incarnation works pretty crappily.
[07:37] <YankDownUnder> I'll leave my opinions at what I've already stated...
[07:37] <ajay> eww, i don't care for that netbook interface, it's true. I can't keep the current setup?
[07:37] <_ramo> i would like to log in to my vsftpd with my root account. somehow i can't get it run. i've edited the vsftdp.conf file and added  userlist_deny=YES to it, edited the ftpusers file and commented the root entry out... restartet the ftp server, but still no luck
[07:37] <_ramo> can anyone help here?
[07:38] <YankDownUnder> ajay, One way of looking at the entire situation - from an educational perspective - is that if your linux install is crawling, something is wrong. Find what is wrong and fix it. You've educated yourself in the process.
[07:38] <newbuntguy> ramo i would help you but i type way to slow
[07:39] <ajay> YankDownUnder: looks like there's plenty of links online about not using unity, so what's the issue? i don't get it
[07:39] <_ramo> newbuntguy: this is nor argument :)
[07:40] <newbuntguy> just admiring my handywork my system OK
[07:40] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Unity - AND Gnome3 - have taken a drastic turn to making your DESKTOP into your NETBOOK or PHONE...therefore, alot of functionality has been lost - just due to "corporate" decision...Unity is still a child, and has many years to mature...think on that.
[07:40] <iceroot> ajay: in 11.04 you can use gnome2 as you are using at the moment
[07:41] <iceroot> !classic | ajay
[07:41] <ajay> YankDownUnder: please explain or show examples
[07:41] <theadmin> ajay, if you like Gnome2 I suggest you to consider Xfce. Ubuntu's getting rid of Gnome2 very soon.
[07:41] <newbuntguy> this room helped me in the sence that it pointed me in the right direction. PROPS
[07:41] <ajay> oh, but GNOME 3 is "made of easy"
[07:41] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: what does that command wipe, specifically - everything off your flash drive?
[07:41] <YankDownUnder> ajay, If you want a real explanation from an "oldie", take it to PM and I'll be more than happy to explain...
[07:42] <ajay> YankDownUnder: I don't want to hear 10 mins of explanation..
[07:42] <FazzyPlax> I need some help badly with GParted...
[07:42] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: yes
[07:42] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Simple answer: You're going to have to completely "re-learn" the interface and functions.
[07:42] <newbuntguy> waiting for my kvm switch
[07:43] <ajay> so you're saying i'll have to install gnome2 in addition on 11?  sounds like a bit of extra space.. hrmm.. interesting that this divide is forming..
[07:43] <xeology> hi guys, i just upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 on a vps (met some resistance" and now openssh doesnt work.  service ssh yields ssh stop/waiting.  Any ideas?
[07:44] <theadmin> ajay: No, 11.04 still does have Gnome2 by default, you just have to switch to it
[07:44] <urlin2u> ajay, the classic desktopi s already there natty is the last release with it though
[07:44] <theadmin> ajay: 11.10 won't, and it won't be in the repos either I suppose.
[07:44] <ajay> ok, so i don't see why Yank won't upgrade to 11 then..
[07:44] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Gnome2 is the "classic desktop" on 11.04 => so you'll have to remove the scrollbar overlay and Unity in order to "create" a proper Gnome2 desktop...however, that being said, there are some issues you'll end up running across because the Ubuntu folks have decided FOR YOU that Unity is best...ahem...
[07:44] <FazzyPlax> I was trying to use GParted earlier, but when I was trying to adjust my windows partition size in order to make more room for my Ubuntu one, I found out that my hard drive supposedly has only one partition on it.
[07:45] <ajay> YankDownUnder: maybe it's time for a new distro for ya then?
[07:45] <YankDownUnder> ajay, As I've stated, 11.04 ain't all that great on older machines - new and fast and "cutting edge" as it sounds - we're talking about older hardware...mmmm...
[07:45] <gac> FazzyPlax: that's normal behaviour? :)
[07:45] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: OK - it's telling me that the "photorec" command is not found.  Do I have to install this first?  I entered "sudo photorec /home/[my username]/[name of img file]
[07:45] <YankDownUnder> ajay, I try, experiment and use nearly all of them...I'm in biz...I'm not a hobbyist...
[07:45] <newbuntguy> not spam but:http://www.geeks.com/search.asp?query=kvm&FIELD=ALL
[07:45] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: ... the pathname to the img file, I should say - off the end ...
[07:46] <FazzyPlax> gac: if that's the case, then how am I supposed to increase my Ubuntu partition size?
[07:46] <gac> oh, I see, you've already installed it?
[07:46] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: yes, sudo apt-get install photorec
[07:46] <gac> I thought you meant reduce windows to make room for a ubuntu installation, y mistake
[07:46] <gry> bullgard4_: I suspect you may want #ubuntu+1; the command I gave gives different version that `apt-cache show gnome` and they might be able to confirm which menu item concurs with one of these two commands.
[07:46] <gac> well it's either installed on another drive, or you've installed with Wubi
[07:47] <gry> bullgard4_: s/that/than/
[07:47] <FazzyPlax> gac: Oh, np. I don't understand what's happening, though. I'm on Ubuntu now, but I was on my Windows environment less than 15 minutes ago.
[07:47] <xeology> anyone how to fix service ssh status yielding "ssh stop/waiting"?
[07:47] <gry> xeology: Where do you this status?
[07:47] <newbuntguy> funny thing is amazon has the same one for 8 dollars less .oh well
[07:47] <urlin2u> FazzyPlax, did you install ubuntu from a live windows session?
[07:48] <FazzyPlax> gac: I don't believe I installed with Wubi. It was an offline installation.
[07:48] <Herakles> Hi there...., how to i access the Ubuntu-DVD to install Software, i am not able to do so...., The Softwaresource is not recognize, although i enabled Natty-DVD as Softwaresource in the Menu of the Softwarecenter....
[07:48] <FazzyPlax> urlin2u: I was in a Windows environment for most of the installation, but needed to reboot to finish it.
[07:48] <newbuntguy> after tax and shipping ofcors
[07:48] <ajay> you can't resize windows in gnome3? woa..
[07:48] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat:  mmmm ... "unable to location package photorec" ...
[07:48] <IdleOne> !ot | newbuntguy
[07:49] <newbuntguy> yesir
[07:49] <urlin2u> FazzyPlax, that sounds like a wubi a booted live or alternate cd is a dual boot.
[07:49] <gac> FazzyPlax: being in Windows for most of the insallation before a final reboot sounds like Wubi to me...
[07:49] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: yes, sudo apt-get install testdisk
[07:49] <ajay> ooo the workspaces in gnome3 looks hot
[07:49] <xeology> i did it in terminal using the vps's serial console
[07:49] <ajay> can i get a gnome2.5 in ubuntu11.1 please? thx :)
[07:50] <FazzyPlax> Okay... so what do I do then? Uninstall and boot from a live CD?
[07:50] <urlin2u> FazzyPlax, you can move the wubi to a regular partition if needed.
[07:50] <Herakles> please feel free to send a message...
[07:50] <gac> FazzyPlax: I think if you uninstall, you'll lose your data. you should look for a migration process of some sort
[07:50] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: what did that just do - update everything that I needed?
[07:50] <FazzyPlax> urlin2u: How so?
[07:50] <xeology> nvm found a work around ty thugh guys
[07:50] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: by the way, that command just ran successfully ...
[07:51] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: you should have photorec now
[07:51] <urlin2u> FazzyPlax, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[07:51] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: OK, I'm trying it again ...
[07:52] <ajay> so is this gnome3 change driving people away from ubuntu? If so, i can't imagine where they'd go?  (KDE & GNOME are everywhere no?)
[07:53] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: OK, running photorec now.  It is asking me to select the partition table type.  What do I choose?
[07:53] <theadmin> ajay: I tell you, Xfce is almost a Gnome2 clone
[07:54] <urlin2u> ajay, does your gnome3 have a panel on the right top to bottom of the screen?
[07:54] <kcj> How do I edit my keyboard layout (edit != change)? I want to swap my ctrl and alt keys so that using Emacs doesn't hurt.
[07:54] <urlin2u> on the left
[07:54] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: intel
[07:54] <lion42> kcj, http://46dogs.blogspot.com/2008/05/remap-keys-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html should work fine in latest ubuntu all the same.
[07:54] <ajay> urlin2u: I'm still on 10.x, i know (little to ) nothing of gnome3. will be curious to try though..
[07:55] <FazzyPlax> urlin2u: Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for.
[07:55] <FazzyPlax> gac: Thank you for the help!
[07:55] <urlin2u> ajay, I couldn't tell if you were calling unity gnome3
[07:55] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: OK.  No which partition no. do I choose?  Sorry - I've never used this program before ...
[07:55] <YankDownUnder> ajay, Mate, Gnome3 and Unity are the "same visually and in usefullness" - the same ergonomic thinking - the "corporates" are trying to "turn your desktop into a simple phone" - aka iPhone and HTC/Android...THAT is the interface they're pushing...however, for those of us that USE our desktops/netbooks and the likes, we don't appreciate the "force it down their throats" approach...and it's not driving folks away (well, Unity i
[07:55] <YankDownUnder> s) but it's making folks think about their desktop environment instead of making folks feel GOOD bout using a linux distro...get it?
[07:55] <ajay> urlin2u: i think that's what people are saying..
[07:56] <kcj> lion42,  Will it mess with me being able to switch layouts with the keyboard preferences editor?
[07:56] <newbuntguy> vmbox working.Check,natty working.Check,
[07:56] <IdleOne> YankDownUnder: Can we get back to support and less pontification. Thanks
[07:56] <Dulak> In othrer words, unity sucks monkey penis.
[07:56] <lion42> kcj, it didn't for me, no.
[07:56] <Dulak> THe end.
[07:56] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: you should have only one part
[07:56] <theadmin> !language | Dulak
[07:56] <kcj> lion42, Ok thanks.
[07:56] <lion42> (I remapped the location of my page up and page down keys. works fine.)
[07:57] <ajay> theadmin: i dunno man, from watching the gnome3 videos i realize how unsatisfied i am w/ gnome2.. no i don't care for 3 better, but they've actually a few cool features, and i'd hate to go to a clone of 2 instead..
[07:57] <duranthebunny> Hello I just installed 11.04 like two hours ago and i was wondering if some one could help me?
[07:57] <Dulak> Yes, how dare I speak in monkey.
[07:57] <lion42> duranthebunny, don't ask for help, just ask your question.
[07:57] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: mmm.  There are four options ...
[07:57] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: hmmm ?
[07:57] <theadmin> ajay: Just a suggestion, if you like G3 stay on it
[07:57] <Dulak> ewwwhhhh, ewwwwwwhhhh.
[07:58] <theadmin> ajay: I honestly hated it.
[07:58] <Dulak> ahhhhhhhh, ahhhhhhhhh
[07:58] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: did you change your alias, by the way?
[07:58] <newbuntguy> network printer.Check
[07:58] <duranthebunny> Sorry, Does any one know how to install drivers for the hp pavilion dv6 6121he meaning the drivers for the mouse pad and finger scanner
[07:59] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: ya ~
[07:59] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: which four you got?
[07:59] <ajay> oh you know what, i'm updating my backup desktop, and just realized i'm going to 11.04.. heh so soon will be on this I guess!  I wonder if it'll support my wifi out of the box..
[07:59] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: yeah - partition 3 (= OnTrack DM WO ???), partition 2 (Sys=79), partition 3 (Sys = 49), partition 1 (=Novell)
[08:00] <ajay> theadmin: for the issues you raised, i agree, i don't think i'll care for it.  the workspaces and type to search for apps is all i liked, and i'd like a window manager with those features, and more.
[08:00] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: did you partitioned it ?
[08:00] <duranthebunny> Sorry, Does any one know how to install drivers for the hp pavilion dv6 6121he meaning the drivers for the mouse pad and fingerprint scanner?
[08:00] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: I don't remember doing so.  Like I said - I just bought the thing ...
[08:01] <ajay> I used to really like AfterStep+windowMaker, and always found enlightenment beautiful, but i need something new.. something innovative/ing
[08:01] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: OK - I would want to draw from the one with the file size that was stated in terminal once it was done backup up everythig right?
[08:01] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: ok   there is a whole disk option right?
[08:01] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: yes - I was looking at that ... but wasn't quite sure ...
[08:01] <theadmin> ajay: Well you can try anything you want, it won't hurt.
[08:01] <duranthebunny> Forget it ill just google it more >.<
[08:02] <theadmin> ajay: btw, there's a great app for... app searching, Launchy. See http://launchy.net
[08:02] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: yes ~ and pick whole disk ~
[08:02] <benjick> Hello. I having some problems. I run ubuntu 11.04 server. When i upload files encoded as utf8 they become ANSI which displays my website all wrong. How can I fix this? I have no clue where to start.
[08:02] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: K - here we go ...
[08:02] <iceroot> benjick: uploaded with what tool?
[08:02] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: fs type other.
[08:02] <benjick> iceroot: winscp
[08:03] <Igor_Elez> i have tried ti manualy install a graphic driver on my Ubuntu, and now i cant start my system, all it shows is Ubuntu starting screen (and instead of purple it is BLACK) and thoese moving dots, that's all, Any idea how to start Ubuntu again? or how to "reset" to the previus state???
[08:03] <ajay> theadmin: nice, will check it.  Now just need a better workspace manager... seems like if something can integrate well w/ compiz it'd be pretty sweet
[08:03] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: it's asking me about the file system type.  I need to choose the one that includes FAT, right?
[08:03] <benjick> iceroot: And it's only 1 file
[08:03] <elky> Everything's disappeared off my unity panel, like it's all scrolled off or something. Only I don't seem to scroll it back into view. How can I get the icons back? :-/
[08:03] <ajay> theadmin: but can you seriously NOT resize windows?? that's too _crazy_ for me to believe!
[08:04] <iceroot> benjick: i guess that is not a upload-issue. the issue is that the file on windows is bad already
[08:04] <iceroot> benjick: scp is not changing any encoding
[08:04] <theadmin> ajay: You can resize, but to get the maximize button you have to dig with dconf a little :D
[08:04] <benjick> iceroot: So what should i do?
[08:05] <MarcelT3> can you recommend good resources on how to layout an _ubuntu server host_ for multiple virtual web servers?
[08:05] <_ramo> hm, i don't know how to configure vsftd to allow root access...
[08:05] <_ramo> hi MarcelT3
[08:05] <_ramo> ;)
[08:05] <IdleOne> elky: "unity -reset" iirc
[08:05] <MarcelT3> lo _ramo
[08:05] <nickSwe> Im trying to mount a sftp path to a directory using the /etc/fstab file, issuing command: sshfs#nick@b3.local:/home/storage/video/ /home/nick/Videos/server/ fuse user 0 0
[08:05] <nickSwe>  but for some reason it fails to mount it. I believe it is because the user nick requires a password... How can I fix this?
[08:05] <ajay> theadmin: ok.. :)  Man sounds like i'm going to trip _out_ next time i reboot this computer!
[08:05] <_ramo> MarcelT3: do you have a hint how to realize that?
[08:05] <Igor_Elez> I Can't start my Ubuntu!! I have tried to manualy install a graphic driver on my Ubuntu, and now i cant start it, all it shows is Ubuntu starting screen (and instead of purple it is BLACK) and thoese moving dots, that's all, Any idea how to start my Ubuntu again? or how to "reset" to the previus state???
[08:05] <theadmin> ajay: ...11.04 uses Unity, not Gnome3
[08:06] <ajay> oh
[08:06] <Igor_Elez> it's 11.04
[08:06] <MarcelT3> _ramo nope sry ;)
[08:06] <Igor_Elez> 64bit
[08:06] <wsbl-uhpd651> YAY! <clap clap clap> it's working.  I was able to point it right to my Pictures directory.  This is awesome!
[08:06] <_ramo> damn... thank you anyway
[08:06] <ajay> so gnome3 is the big complaint, not unity
[08:06] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: YAY! <clap clap clap> it's working.  I was able to point it right to my Pictures directory.  This is awesome!
[08:07] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: This has been one successful IRC chat~
[08:07] <iceroot> benjick: correct the file on windows-side
[08:07] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: !!!!
[08:07] <benjick> iceroot: i've tried that as well. just get changed during the transfer
[08:07] <ajay> I don't know why the upgrade removed wine tho
[08:07] <iceroot> benjick: or open the file with your editor and save it as utf-8 (on windows-side or linux-side)
[08:07] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: so you have photo back ?
[08:08] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: It's going to take a few hours, so now I can just put it aside and go to bed - letting it run ...
[08:08] <theadmin> !pm | Herakles
[08:08] <iceroot> ajay: using wine from the ubuntu-repos or from the wine-repos?
[08:08] <ajay> icekk_: ubuntu
[08:08] <Igor_Elez> I Can't start my Ubuntu!! I have tried to manualy install a graphic driver on my Ubuntu 11.04 64bit, and now i cant start it, all it shows is Ubuntu starting screen (and instead of purple it is BLACK) and thoese moving dots, that's all. Can anyone help me? idea how to start Ubuntu again?
[08:08] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: i am already in bed XD ~ ok nini ~
[08:09] <nickSwe> Igor_Elez, we saw your post the first time... be patient.
[08:09] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: yeah - they are totally there !!!  I opened up the directory where it is populating them - and the thumbnails are showing up, so - KUDOS !!!
[08:09] <urlin2u> Igor_Elez, you can insert nomodeset in the kernel line at the grub menu
[08:09] <theadmin> !ops > Herakles
[08:09] <IdleOne> theadmin: ?
[08:10] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: night night !!!  You get some "major flair" for this one !!!
[08:10] <iceroot> ajay: its easier when you are using the correct nick-names
[08:10] <theadmin> IdleOne: He assumed I'm an admin, uhh... >.<
[08:10] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: Thanks again !!!
[08:10] <theadmin> IdleOne: Had to correct him, sorry about those
[08:10] <OY1R> anyone know why i woke up to a missing topbar in 10.04 ?
[08:10] <IdleOne> no problem
[08:10] <ajay> iceroot: oops, Blame BitchX, not me :)
[08:11] <faint545> holy crap i cant sleep
[08:11] <wildbat_semi_afk> wsbl-uhpd651: lol you are welcome ~ i think your usb is corrupted ~ MBR is surely a mess ~ i hope you recover all ~
[08:11] <iceroot> ajay: dont use bitchx, its no longer supported and will not get security-updates
[08:11] <gry> OY1R: log off, log on again
[08:11] <faint545> OY1R, no bottom bar either?
[08:12] <ajay> iceroot: I like to ask people to say "yes" rather than "no" (or, that's going to be my new thing to practice)
[08:12] <OY1R> gry, faint545 only the top bar was missing, also after a reboot.
[08:12] <OY1R> gry, faint545 it WAS missing, i fixed it. I'd  just like to know why it was gone.
[08:13] <ajay> aka.. what else should I use?
[08:13] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: Nice.  Yeah - we'll see if the reformat of my thumb drive is successful.  Otherwise - Best Buy will hear from me ... but NOT like THEY CARE ...
[08:14] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: :)
[08:14] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: I might some "senior" dude - or might actually give a "crapjack" ...
[08:15] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat_semi_afk: All right ... enough "bellyhooing".  Get some sleep.  Thanks again!
[08:18] <elky> IdleOne, so... no. i've rebooted and have my stuff back... unity --reset just nukes all the settings by the looks
[08:18] <jpds> Nothing like the old reboot.
[08:18] <OY1R> sudo reboot :)
[08:20] <elky> jpds, inorite. The other option was to not use the system at all. I think i chose the right method.
[08:20] <OY1R> my dad's power off method back in the day was locate the power cord and yank *kerbow*.
[08:22] <elky> OY1R, the eeepc hard reboot method with the dodgy firmware was moar fun. yank cork and battery. but this is offtopic for here
[08:22] <OY1R> how do ssd's react to that ?
[08:24] <elky> OY1R, better than spinning disks afaik
[08:24] <wrongturn> any problems with the alpha 11.10 i just now downloading
[08:24] <OY1R> ok
[08:25] <gry> wrongturn: People in #ubuntu+1 might know that.
[08:25] <urlin2u> wrongturn, I downloaded and installedtoday with no problems.
[08:25] <Trashi> hi guys. i did reinstall the pulse audio preferences cause i did uninstall it accidently. the preferences work now, but if i click "sound preferences" in the "volume control" of the gnome panel, it launches the control center. does anybody know how to fix. i just can use the pulse audio preferences if i choose it via gnome-start->sound&video->pulse ... please help! thanks
[08:26] <wrongturn> k i'm givin it a try
[08:28] <nickSwe>  but for some reason it fails to mount it. I believe it is because the user nick requires a password... How can I fix this?
[08:28] <nickSwe> Im trying to mount a sftp path to a directory using the /etc/fstab file, issuing command: sshfs#nick@b3.local:/home/storage/video/ /home/nick/Videos/server/ fuse user 0 0
[08:28] <nickSwe>  but for some reason it fails to mount it. I believe it is because the user nick requires a password... How can I fix this?
[08:31] <AdvoWork> how would i go about checking the mx record of a domain from ubuntu?
[08:31] <SwedeMike> AdvoWork: dig MX domain
[08:32] <theadmin> nickSwe: Try adding BatchMode=yes to your mount options.
[08:32] <theadmin> nickSwe: That'll prevent it asking for password.
[08:33] <ajay> oops i'm still here.. ok to figuring out how to get my wireless working in ubuntu.. ta!
[08:35] <gack> Hey all, I ran sudo grub-install but I don't have a menu.lst file. I can't boot ubuntu. My grub menu is blank. Any help?
[08:36] <urlin2u> gack, do you see this when you boot grub>
[08:36] <theadmin> gack: It's grub.cfg now rather than menu.lst.
[08:36] <MichelPaulissen> ?
[08:37] <szal> MichelPaulissen: !
[08:37] <gack> theadmin: it only came up with two txt files when I tried installing it. I'm not really sure what to do next.
[08:37] <MichelPaulissen> szal: window just popped up, question mark was what i was typing
[08:37] <theadmin> gack: Umm... Well, you need to chroot to your /boot partition and run update-grub?
[08:37] <elfranne> i have dowloaded some gif with a script, i can see the preview but cannot open the image : could not load image 'name of the file.gif' file does not appear to be a gif file. gimp and Firefox are showing the imnage fine
[08:38] <bullgard4_> gry: I have put a question in #ubuntu+1 but not got an answer for 4 hours. That channel is pretty sleepy.
[08:38] <nickSwe> theadmin, where in the sshfs#nick@b3.local:/home/storage/video/ /home/nick/Videos/server/ fuse user 0 0 shall I add the option BatchMode=yes ?
[08:38] <theadmin> nickSwe: Where "user" is, replace that with "user,BatchMode=yes"
[08:39] <nickSwe> theadmin: aah now I get it! thanks! is there a way to try the fstab file without rebooting the system?
[08:39] <urlin2u> elfranne, try gimp
[08:39] <gack> theadmin: how do I do that? I'm very new at this sort of thing.
[08:39] <theadmin> nickSwe: Why, yes, just try "sudo umount /home/nick/Videos/server/" after which remount it again
[08:40] <theadmin> !restoregrub | gack
[08:40] <theadmin> !grub | gack
[08:40] <elfranne> urlin2u, i said that i opened with gimp and was working but why and how to fix it ?
[08:41] <ajay> omg 11.04 is a DISASTER
[08:41] <nickSwe> theadmin: thank you... does not seem to work though. I get the following:    nick@nick-netbook:~$ sudo mount sshfs#nick@b3.local:/home/storage/video/
[08:41] <nickSwe> read: Connection reset by peer
[08:41] <gack> theadmin: do I put that in a terminal or in the grub screen that I have in front of me.
[08:41] <gack> ubottu: thanks, i'll check it out
[08:41] <theadmin> gack: Read the links I gave you, they have detailed instructions.
[08:43] <urlin2u> gack, do you have the cd you installed with?
[08:43] <ajay> my video is all screwed up on 11.. why.. :(
[08:43] <gack> urlin2u: i used a usb. yes I have it
[08:43] <urlin2u> gack boot it then in the terminal run sudo fdisk -lu and pastebin it.
[08:44] <gack> urlin2u: doing it now...
[08:44] <urlin2u> gack, which ubuntu distro is it natty?
[08:46] <ZenMaster> Hi.
[08:47] <urlin2u> happy mindfulness ;)
[08:47] <ZenMaster> Anyone here have expierence installing Fireware FP-10 for Audio under ubuntu 11.04?
[08:47] <gack> urlin2u: i'm not sure what ur asking? (i'm very new at this sort of thing!) i can't load the usb now. it comes up with the grub screen and I can't get past it.
[08:47] <ZenMaster> I just broke qjackctl, and now I don't know how to reset it so I can try to figure this out.l
[08:47] <gry> ZenMaster: I would think that someone in this channel has it, yes... unless you have strong motive to believe otherwise.
[08:47] <urlin2u> gack,hit the menu and see if it boots in
[08:48] <ajay> ok it's the effects, got to disable effects..
[08:48] <harry_> hey...any one has any information on how the system works when i select langauge at the time of login???
[08:48] <ZenMaster> gry: I would hope osmeone does.
[08:48] <gack> urlin2u: it worked this time to boot from the usb. should I do that instead?
[08:48] <goddard> how can i make a program a command?
[08:48] <urlin2u> gack, yes we v=can fix this from thee desktop.
[08:49] <gry> ZenMaster: This is why you could just ask your question and wait for someone to respond... unless you have a strong reason to believe that we have a strongly separated "team" of experts in this area.
[08:49] <urlin2u> gack, once in run the sudo fdsik -lu command, and pastebin it.
[08:49] <gack> urlin2u: cool. i clicked run from this usb. loading up now.
[08:49] <sweet> is there vidio converter like total vidio converter in windows for linux?
[08:49] <goddard> haha
[08:49] <gry> sweet: Convert from what to what?
[08:49] <goddard> man fdisk
[08:50] <urlin2u> gack, it is sudo fdisk -lu
[08:50] <sweet> gry:convert from flv to any format like mideaplayer
[08:50] <ZenMaster> gry: Ok. So how do you get a Presonus Firepod FP-10(FireWire) to work properly in UbuntuStudio 11.04.
[08:51] <ZenMaster> gry: So far no guide is complete, and each one omits little details. Now Patchage is not working, QjackCTL is also non-responsive upon loading up.
[08:52] <auronandace> sweet: you could try clipgrab
[08:52] <gack> urlin2u: just copying it in to ubuntu paste now
[08:54] <urlin2u> gack, cool you have the pastebin link.
[08:54] <lilith> hi all
[08:54] <gack> urlin2u: connecting to the internet at my parent's place. just a sec.
[08:55] <gry> sweet: ok, there seems to be a number of tools available - see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=839564
[08:55] <urlin2u> lilith, hello like the nic.
[08:55] <gry> sweet: ffmpeg is one of them.
[08:56] <gack> urlin2u: it's 660990
[08:56] <urlin2u> gack, the page link a http
[08:56] <lilith> thanks
[08:56] <urlin2u> gack,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:57] <gack> urlin2u: paste.ubuntu.com/660990/
[08:58] <ajah> is there an option for grep to print n lines after match
[08:58] <llutz_> ajah:  -A xx
[08:58] <urlin2u> gack,  in the terminal run sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[08:59] <lilith> I suppose moboquer is just as configurable post install as it is from the terminal during the curses selection. Anyone used it? I messed up the first setup.
[09:00] <gack> urlin2u: it says usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat 'aufs'.
[09:00] <ajah> llutz,  thank u save me reading the manual :)
[09:00] <urlin2u> gack, okay lets do this lets run the bootscript. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[09:00] <user12> hello i want to install alien
[09:00] <llutz_> ajah: -A(fter) -B(efore) -C(before+after)
[09:01] <urlin2u> gack, run the script from the desktop and pastebin the whole generated text file.
[09:02] <gack> urlin2u:  so i download that file, run sudo bash then paste the text file to you?
[09:02] <urlin2u> gack, yep it will tell us what we need to know.
[09:03] <user12> any one know that ?
[09:03] <harry_>  hey...any one has any information on how the system works when i select langauge at the time of login???
[09:03] <gry> harry_: It works properly.
[09:04] <llutz_> !info alien
[09:04] <maalac> need help here. how can my network not being renamed everytime i boot up ?
[09:04] <user12> any one know how can i install alien app in linux to convert rpm to deb
[09:04] <llutz_> user12: be carefull, converted rpms might break your system. sudo apt-get install alien
[09:04] <ZenMaster> gry: Little tinkering, think I got it. Thanks for your magnificant support.
[09:04] <adewisman1> !info checkinstall
[09:05] <harry_> gry::no in ubuntu 11.04 when we change the language at the time of login it is not getting chnage in its "locale" variable
[09:05] <theadmin> user12: WHY do you need to install an RPM package?!
[09:05] <gack> urlin2u: paste.ubuntu.com/660996/
[09:06] <Lasers> user12: What application?
[09:06] <maalac> quick question: why is it that everytime i boot my network is being renamed from eth0 to eth1. Usually my eth0 is my LAN and eth1 is wireless..
[09:06] <maalac> how can i prevent this ?
[09:06] <urlin2u> gack,  your missing some grun=b stuff so we are going to purge it and reinstall, unmount the thumb and remove it.
[09:06] <llutz_> maalac: check /etc/udev/rules.d/*persistent-net.rules
[09:07] <gack> urlin2u: done.
[09:08] <urlin2u> gack, in the terminal run sudo apt-get purge grub-pc grub-common
[09:08] <user12> llutz i got error while installing
[09:09] <gack> urlin2u: it says 'segmentation fault'
[09:09] <maalac> llutz_: what will i change here ?
[09:09] <chenthu> How to open a program with root access from the gui and not using terminal?
[09:09] <theadmin> !gksudo | chenthu
[09:09] <llutz_> maalac: the MAC or just simply remove that file, it will be recreated with next boot
[09:09] <anthony_dev> do you know any good community site or forum about linux development? ( gtk/openGL/etc)
[09:09] <jazzkutya> hi
[09:10] <urlin2u> gack,  hmm, not sure what that means, are you typing the commands with a single space
[09:10] <iceroot> anthony_dev: gtk and opengl has nothing to do with linux
[09:10] <jazzkutya> can anyone recommend a most stable sound card for linux? hardy, usb or pci
[09:10] <gack> urlin2u: yes. i'll try it again.
[09:10] <theadmin> iceroot: I can understand about opengl, but GTK!? Please, it's a mostly-Linux GUI toolkit.
[09:10] <maalac> llutz_: my goal here is boot should be enabled LAN and Wireless > eth0: LAN and eth1: wireless. Is this the solution ?
[09:10] <jazzkutya> for continous audio playback
[09:11] <gry> anthony_dev: http://stackoverflow.com
[09:11] <iceroot> theadmin: its the gimp-toolkit
[09:11] <chenthu> theadmin: even gksudo is invoked from terminal....is there a way without using the terminal?
[09:11] <theadmin> chenthu: Alt+F2?
[09:11] <theadmin> chenthu: Create a menu entry/shortcut?
[09:11] <iceroot> theadmin: you can use gtk everywhere not only on linux
[09:11] <gack> urlin2u: same thing
[09:11] <theadmin> iceroot: I'm aware of that, but it *is* used mostly in Linux :D
[09:11] <anthony_dev> iceroot: yes, but it mostly used in linux.
[09:11] <llutz_> maalac: look at that file, it designs iface-names to MAC-addresses. so yes, it should be the right place
[09:11] <iceroot> theadmin: and has nothing to do with linux development
[09:11] <iceroot> theadmin: or is the kernel using gtk?
[09:12] <iceroot> theadmin: also bash is not linux
[09:12] <theadmin> iceroot: loool, true, true
[09:12] <theadmin> iceroot: I think the guy means "developing for Linux distributions"
[09:12] <maalac> llutz_: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:26:82:c9:70:96", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1" this is waht i have
[09:12] <theadmin> Anyhow, I'll be back soon.
[09:12] <chenthu> theadmin: thank you
[09:13] <urlin2u> gack, not sure why that error is happening, I have never seen that.
[09:13] <user12> 00:26:82:c9:70:96  mac address  isnt it ?
[09:13] <anthony_dev> gry: any other links?(urls). Stackoverflow is more like question/answer site. I prefer more like forum based site.
[09:13] <chenthu> user12: yeah thats a mac address
[09:13] <gry> anthony_dev: http://linuxquestions.org
[09:14] <gry> anthony_dev: also http://ubuntuforums.org of course.
[09:14] <llutz_> maalac: yes, check "ifconfig" to get MACs  and change that file accordingly
[09:14] <gack> urlin2u: no worries. i have to go now anyways. thanks for your help. I'll try on the forum later.
[09:14] <user12> llutz i got this a the resutl
[09:14] <urlin2u> gack, cool
[09:14] <user12> http://pastebin.com/gMGMXiP4
[09:14] <maalac> llutz_: can i add two entries ?
[09:15] <anthony_dev> gry: i found this one: linux.com. but it seems not so popular
[09:15] <llutz_> maalac: sure
[09:15] <llutz_> user12: check your sources.list. it is in main, definetly available
[09:16] <user12> does ipconfig related commands works in linux ?
[09:16] <llutz_> user12: no, use ip or ifconfig
[09:18] <jhb> hi *. I moved my system to a larger harddisk (travelstar 5k750) by using dd_rescue. System boots fine, but sometimes it crashes now, and resume doesn't work at all anymore (running of the old disk still works fine). Any ideas on how to debug this?
[09:19] <gry> jhb: Check the logs.
[09:19] <jhb> gry: which ones?
[09:19] <jhb> gry: I didn't find anything in messages,dmesg.0
[09:20] <gry> kernel logs perhaps ?
[09:20] <dbolser> hello, I'm running 11.04, I want to change a few things and can't seem to find the options
[09:20] <jhb> gry: will have a look a that
[09:20] <dbolser> for example, I can't click and drag with my touch pad the way I want to
[09:21] <dbolser> I seem to need to 'gesture' to click and drag, but I don't see any options on that in the pointer configuration
[09:22] <dbolser> I'd also like to see window contents while resizing, set the window magnetism, increase the window decoration border, etc. etc. I can't find those settings where I expect
[09:23] <ioriveur> Hi
[09:24] <gry> ioriveur: Hello there.
[09:25] <dbolser> What does this mean "If you install Xubuntu-desktop, future updates will not include new items in The Ubuntu desktop system set. Are you sure you want to continue?"
[09:27] <gry> dbolser: This means you will get xubuntu updates instead of ubuntu ones.
[09:27] <dbolser> gry: ic, there are only two packages listed there (one of them being ubuntu meta)
[09:28] <dbolser> sorry, ubuntu-desktop meat
[09:28] <dbolser> meat
[09:28] <dbolser> dam... meta
[09:28] <dbolser> this looks scary, but ... gnome is driving me crazy these days http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[09:29] <gry> dbolser: This is a meta-package which includes a number of other packages - by accepting this notice, you agree to follow xubuntu updates instead of ubuntu ones.
[09:29] <dbolser> gry: cool, ty
[09:29] <gry> yvw
[09:30] <dbolser> if I un-install xfce later, will those updates come back?
[09:31] <ioriveur> dbolser, yes, gnome takes everyone mad.
[09:31] <anli_> Seems that my mouse down state is not reliable, when I paint in gimp using the mouse, I get this result: http://darkbox.dyndns.org:8888/screenshot_006.png
[09:31] <anli_> Its two strokes instead of one
[09:31] <anli_> I held down the mouse all the time
[09:32]  * dbolser dives into xubuntu
[09:32] <Fuchs> anli_: look what xev means
[09:32] <anli_> Its like that since I started to use sudo metacity --replace to get rid of compiz
[09:32] <anli_> ok
[09:32] <ioriveur> I uses awesome as main wm.
[09:32] <Fuchs> what the ...
[09:32] <Fuchs> anli_: do _not_ run a window manager with sudo
[09:33] <ioriveur> awesome is awesome, ja.
[09:33] <Fuchs> anli_: this is plain nonsence and it might break things such as the access rights to .Xauthority
[09:33] <anli_> Fuchs: If I dont use sudo, all that is happening is that I damage window titles and I have to restart the computer
[09:34] <Fuchs> anli_: then your system is already rather broken
[09:34] <anli_> But if I use sudo, I can work with the computer
[09:34] <Fuchs> and no, you don't have to restart, in the worst case you can still CTRL+ALT+F1, login, DISPLAY=:0 whateverwm --replace & disown   CTRL+ALT+F7
[09:34] <anli_> I cannot change the apperance of windows however
[09:34] <Fuchs> anli_: of course not, since it takes the settings of the root user
[09:35] <anli_> I have only done metacity --replace in an xterm (trying without sudo)
[09:35] <Fuchs> anli_: try fix the other problem first, by changing the wm-theme as an example. As your regular user, not with sudo.
[09:35] <anli_> My original problem is that I cannot use compiz together with blender actually
[09:35] <anli_> It locks up the graphics after a while so I have to reboot
[09:35] <Fuchs> then don't, switch to metacity while using it, and if not already existing, submit a bug report at launchpad
[09:36] <Fuchs> this sounds strange, what graphics card with which driver are you using?
[09:36] <anli_> nvidia 8600 GT
[09:36] <Fuchs> and the proprietary driver. What version?
[09:36] <anli_> hm, must check
[09:36] <anli_> I have to use synaptic then, I suppose
[09:36] <Fuchs> no
[09:36] <Fuchs> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
[09:36] <anli_> aha
[09:37] <Fuchs> if more than three lines, don't paste it here
[09:37] <Fuchs> I am only interested in the version number
[09:37] <anli_> NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  270.41.06  Mon Apr 18 14:54:25 PDT 2011
[09:37] <Fuchs> old, that might still have the bug in it which is similar to what you are describing
[09:37] <Fuchs> could you try fetching a newer driver via a ppa  (do _not_ download an install the .run file from nvidia)
[09:38] <Fuchs> 280.13 should be available
[09:38] <anli_> So why do I get that driver when I am running the newest version of ubuntu?
[09:38] <ioriveur> how about nouveu driver
[09:38] <Fuchs> anli_: due to the update policy of ubuntu, which is not a bad thing, usually
[09:38] <NoNick> anyone else have an invitation to google +?
[09:38] <anli_> But now its more than bad
[09:39] <gry> !ot > NoNick
[09:39] <Fuchs> anli_: if the problem still persists, please create a nvidia bug report  (sudo nvidia-bug-report.sh), unzip it and put the contents (plain text file) in a pastebin service
[09:39] <ioriveur> NoNick, I have.
[09:39] <gry> NoNick, ioriveur - there is ##googleplus if you're interested
[09:39] <anli_> I cant submit bug reports here and where, I have a job to do
[09:39] <Fuchs> anli_: no, it might not be a driver problem, this is just a guess for now, but probably a good one
[09:39] <Fuchs> anli_: well, pity, then I can't help you, since I as well have a job to do and not time for more guesses
[09:39] <ioriveur> Well, Im in already, thanks.
[09:40] <ioriveur> Well, Im in already, thanks. gry
[09:40] <anli_> I dont like guesses eitehr
[09:40] <anli_> either
[09:40] <Fuchs> anli_: creating a bug reports takes ~ 2 minutes, I guess you should have this time
[09:40] <Fuchs> anli_: so: try the new driver, if it works: good. If it doesn't: create a bug report.
[09:40] <anli_> A bug report then that synaptic is an application that can give me software that is so buggy that I consider switching operating system? ;)
[09:40] <anli_> ok
[09:41] <Fuchs> anli_: but due to the fact that you have to run a window manager as root to have a working system, I suspect that there might be already something broken on your system.
[09:41] <gry> ioriveur: You're welcome!
[09:41] <anli_> Its a newly installed system
[09:41] <ioriveur> Yeah, gry!
[09:42] <Omega> :| I got kicked for no reason.
[09:42] <ioriveur> reportbug in ubuntu is same as in debian? It is spam of asking.... I was tired
[09:44] <gry> ioriveur: No, ubuntu's bug tracker is separate.
[09:44] <Herakles> Help!
[09:44] <gry> Herakles: ?
[09:44] <ioriveur> My 9600GT nVidia card is well driven by nouveu in debian, what happened to his system.
[09:44] <ioriveur> ?
[09:45] <ioriveur> gry: Wow, great
[09:45] <GreenCloud> ;)
[09:45] <GreenCloud> hello everyone!
[09:45] <bryantos> Hiya
[09:46] <gry> Hello there.
[09:46] <brubelsabs> I need a one-time ftp server, easy to configure. looked already at vsftpd, and proftp both not easy to configure. Any suggestions. Its just for transferring files from time to time from our scanner (so I can't use any other protocol, I need ftp.)
[09:46] <gluesniffmonkey> What is the best way to have 3g internet with ubuntu 10.04 and bluetooth with nokia e63?
[09:46] <Herakles> Hi.......
[09:47] <Herakles> gry;
[09:48] <ioriveur> brubelsabs: I remember threre were ftp 2flps linux system.
[09:48] <gry> Herakles: Good morning!
[09:49] <llutz_> brubelsabs: vsftpd IS easy to configure, just check the default-config options
[09:50] <hackerqi> try pureftpd
[09:50] <brubelsabs> llutz_: ah come on: I tried it, set the local_users option, but still not working.., searched on goole but no one seems to have the same problem..
[09:51] <brubelsabs> ioriveur: 2flps, what that mean?
[09:51] <Herakles> gry ????
[09:51] <bryantos> brubelsabs: Have you tried installing filezilla from repos?
[09:51] <gry> Herakles: Is there something we can help you with?
[09:51] <anli_> Can the tendency of interrupted mouse presses be an effect of running metacity --replace as root
[09:51] <gry> anli_: Hardly.
[09:52] <bryantos> brubelsabs: Used it without issue when I owned my domain
[09:52] <brubelsabs> bryantos: filezilla?, whats that?
[09:52] <gry> anli_: But, if you have to do that frequently, it's a sign of some things going wrong.
[09:52] <bryantos> brubelsabs: FTP client
[09:52] <ioriveur> brubelsabs: pureftpd and vsftpd is easy, but.....   2ftps means 2 floppies, but actually, only one.
[09:52] <gry> brubelsabs: An FTP client - see addons.mozilla.org, search for it there
[09:52] <Herakles> Hi gry, would you be so kind to help me a bit...., I am having a small problem installing Software from Ubuntu 11.04 DVD although i enabled the Sources in the Softwarecenter
[09:52] <llutz_> brubelsabs: local_enable = yes, write_enable = yes, chroot_local_user = no   and disable all "anon" related things. "man vsftpd.conf" for more help
[09:52] <anli_> Maybe the mouse itself is broken
[09:52] <gry> Herakles: What happens when you try to install software?
[09:53] <ioriveur> brubelsabs: http://www.orange.co.jp/~masaki/1fd/ftp/  it is written in Japanese.... but You'll get same stuff in your language if you google it
[09:53] <brubelsabs> llutz_: Sorry to say that again. I've exactly tried this! I did not work!
[09:53] <Herakles> I get an error message telling me the Softwarecenter isn´t able to "Fetch" Software from DVD....
[09:53] <Herakles> I get an error message telling me the Softwarecenter isn´t able to "Fetch" Software from DVD.... gry
[09:54] <brubelsabs> hackerqi: pureftp seems not to be in the repos
[09:54] <gry> Herakles: Why are you trying to install it from DVD rather than the online repositories?
[09:54] <Herakles> I am an offline FREAK....
[09:54] <Herakles> i like to be offline....
[09:54] <ioriveur> anli_, congrat, because you got a bug. buy one!
[09:55] <brubelsabs> bryantos: I search an ftp SERVER, and filezillas only offering one for windows I guess..
[09:55] <gry> Herakles: Did you add the DVD to the software center as a local repo?
[09:55] <Herakles> Yes, gry...
[09:55] <gry> How?
[09:55] <ioriveur> i hate dvd, optical disk drive is easy to dead......
[09:55] <anli_> aha, I was trying the same mouse now in vista, its actually the mouse that fails
[09:56] <Herakles> using "Menu, Softwarereposit..., klicking last box to install from DVD
[09:56] <Herakles> gry
[09:56] <anli_> So I can stop blaiming linux or nvidia
[09:56] <brubelsabs> llutz_: probably its because some LDAP pam modules here.. since vsftpd has a pam module/service name to configure.
[09:56] <gry> Herakles: Did you untick the default repos?
[09:56] <ioriveur> vista? Smashed it saying "hasta la vista, vista"
[09:57] <Herakles> yes, i did before...
[09:57] <ioriveur> good, anli_ ; )
[09:57] <Herakles> yes, i did before..., gry
[09:57] <brubelsabs> hackerqi: sorry I over looked it, the package is named pure-ftpd
[09:58] <gry> Herakles: Can you go to Terminal and type these two lines: "sudo apt-get update", "sudo apt-get upgrade" - and pastebin the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ?
[09:59] <Herakles> gry, i don´t want to upgrade, i bought a new DVD......11.04....
[10:00] <gry> Herakles: Are you trying to re-install, or to upgrade software?
[10:00] <Herakles> nooo
[10:00] <brubelsabs> pure-ftp rocks, thank all of you. So if I want to transfer files, I just install pure-ftp copy them over and then deinstall again. Not mouch configuration, very easy and secure.
[10:01] <Herakles> no gry, i do not try to reinstall or upgrade anything....
[10:01] <gry> Herakles: Can you tell what you want to do, please?
[10:01]  * Nuit Bom dia :)
[10:02] <Herakles> I want to install a Software from DVD; but i don´t know which software is coming with Ubuntu by default.....
[10:02] <Herakles> gry
[10:02] <Arz> guys, need help.
[10:02] <gry> Herakles: Why do you want to install software from DVD?
[10:03] <gry> Arz: We can't help you (unless we see your question) :-)
[10:03] <Herakles> because my Internetconnection is very slow....
[10:03] <Herakles> gry
[10:03] <ioriveur> what make Herakles do such a thing? target is same machine, isn't it?
[10:03] <gry> Herakles: What makes you think that the dvd contents may be used as a "repository"?
[10:04] <Herakles> ???
[10:04] <Herakles> What is this now.... am i getting help ?
[10:04] <Herakles> or what ?
[10:04] <Arz> have been trying to install ubuntu 64bit and when i restart to complete the installation, i select ubuntu in the boot option, it says completing installation and all, then the ubuntu load screen comes up but then a corrupted screen shows up and my keyboard is disconnected somehow and i cant do anything, tell me if you want to see how the screen looks like.
[10:04] <gry> Herakles: I'm still trying to understand how you're trying to use the dvd.
[10:05] <ioriveur> Herakles:ah, I get. You want to install "software", not OS, right?
[10:05] <Herakles> I want to install any Software from DVD, like say Xchat....gry
[10:06] <gry> Herakles: the "dvd" option in software center is used to install software from a source which is a "repository"; if the dvd is not one, then it won't work.  If the dvd is an 11.04 installation dvd, then it can't be a repository - the only way to use it is to boot into it and install (with a prior backup)
[10:06] <iceroot> Herakles: why you want that?
[10:06] <iceroot> Herakles: instead of using the repos
[10:06] <iceroot> Herakles: its ALWAYS the best idea to use the software from the repos instead of old software from dvd (with security-issues)
[10:06] <Herakles> gry, i bought the DVD with a easyLinux-magazine and it tells me that it can be used.....
[10:06] <ProstheticS> hey guys, im more or less wondering a little about the basics of disk access in linux/ubuntu here but: if i write a cron job, that is going to do an ls on 3 directories, and possibly write that to a file, is this going to prevernt my harddrives from going to sleep, or is there some form of disk cacheing that will save me from the above?
[10:06] <Arz> ?
[10:07] <gry> Herakles: Could you follow the instructions, then, and tell us what they were, and what errors you got, please?
[10:07] <iceroot> Herakles: of course the normal install cd can be used as a repo
[10:07] <iceroot> Herakles: but as i said its not a good idea to use old software from dvds
[10:07] <ioriveur> Arz, your console is blacked out and nothing to get?
[10:08] <iceroot> ProstheticS: that will wake up the disks
[10:08] <iceroot> ProstheticS: you cant cache the whole files
[10:08] <Arz> ioriveur : no, some weird .. oh god wait ill show you
[10:08] <ProstheticS> oh bummer, so my disks would basically never go to sleep if i set that ?
[10:08] <Herakles> gry, I start the Softwarecenter....
[10:08] <iceroot> ProstheticS: yes
[10:08] <sebalec> hi people
[10:08] <sebalec> can someone help me ?
[10:08] <Herakles> gry, I go to the Menu of the Softwarecenter....
[10:08] <iceroot> !ask | sebalec
[10:09] <Herakles> gry, I select Softwaresources.....
[10:09] <ProstheticS> is there a nice way to 'check' the output of ls?
[10:09] <sebalec> where can i buy a kubuntu cd ?
[10:09] <ikonia> ProstheticS: check ?
[10:09] <iceroot> ProstheticS: what do you want exactly?
[10:09] <sebalec> !ask where can i buy a kubuntu cd ?
[10:09] <iceroot> ProstheticS: working with ls is always a bad idea
[10:09] <Herakles> gry, I give my password, as i beeing asked...
[10:09] <iceroot> !shipit | sebalec
[10:10] <gry> Herakles: Could you please try to give information on one line, and not address me in particular unless I state that I am 100% knowledgeable on this topic? Thank you
[10:10] <iceroot> sebalec: ubuntu.com should have a shop for them but not free (as in free beer)
[10:10] <sebalec> yes i know about canonical, i already bought a CD of ubuntu
[10:10] <sebalec> but i can't find any of kubuntu
[10:10] <Herakles> gry, may i get back to you later....., am a bit tired now...
[10:11] <ioriveur> Arz, I'm not great at English, plz tell me same thing in another word?
[10:11] <ProstheticS> well basically, 3 disks, each has a directory in it called "something" , and within "something" is a heap of directories, per disk these are different, and i need, in order for an rss script to download to these directories onthe 3 drives, a folder full of links (which i generate regularly) so it downloads through the links and only has to check the 1 directory
[10:11] <ProstheticS> bad explanation
[10:11] <iceroot> sebalec: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=864
[10:11] <Arz> ioriveur : this is what i get - http://i54.tinypic.com/33dfep5.jpg
[10:11] <ProstheticS> so i need to check withineach of these 3 directories, if a new directory has been created
[10:12] <iceroot> ProstheticS: have a look at #bash
[10:12] <goddard> how can i make a program a command?
[10:12] <iceroot> goddard: ?
[10:12] <ProstheticS> oki, thanks anyhow iceroot
[10:12] <goddard> instead of type /path/to/file just type file
[10:12] <iceroot> goddard: but your program into your PATH
[10:12] <_ramo1> can i install a mail server and define a testing  tld for me on my localhost?
[10:13] <iceroot> goddard: echo $PATH
[10:13] <_ramo1> so that i have an email adress like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:13] <iceroot> _ramo1: sure
[10:13] <goddard> if im in my home directory i can call ping any where
[10:13] <ioriveur> well, arz, and what you get after pushing Ctrl + Alt + F1?
[10:13] <iceroot> _ramo1: but that will not work with outgoing mails if the domain is not pointing in your host
[10:13] <Arz> ioriveur : nothing happens, when this screen comes, the keyboard stops working
[10:13] <llutz_> goddard: mkdir ~/bin    and put your stuff there
[10:13] <iceroot> goddard: because ping is in $PATH
[10:14] <Arz> ioriveur : but when i press ctrl + alt + f1 at the ubuntu splash screen then i can type but for a short time
[10:14] <CoreStyx> hello, does anyone is familiar with ubuntu server 11.04 ?
[10:14] <goddard> iceroot: llutz_ ok thanks guys ill look into that stuff
[10:14] <goddard> CoreStyx: #ubuntu-server
[10:14] <DawnLight> hi! can the alternate installer install only ubuntu-core?
[10:14] <CoreStyx> thx
[10:15] <goddard> :D
[10:15] <DawnLight> i mean ubuntu-standard
[10:15] <gry> CoreStyx: This channel would be quite familiar with that, yes.
[10:16] <rigved> DawnLight: you mean only CLI?
[10:16] <DawnLight> rigved, yes
[10:16] <ioriveur> Arz, X seems crashed. How about booting without X?
[10:17] <Arz> what do you mean by X?
[10:17] <spexi> What should I do to fix my samba shares, Windows 7 doesn't see them at all, WDTV Live device sees my computer but says "There's no media in the current folder". My ubuntu computer also can't connect to Windows 7 shares, and has some error message when I execute smbtree command.
[10:17] <accel> my printer was working fine under unbutu 10.04 10 minutes ago. Now, when I type "lpq" or "sudo lpq", it both says: "lpq: Unable to connect to server." So I unplug/replug my USB printer. Then I do dmesg, it shows lp0 connection. Then I do "sudo lpq", again "uanble to connect to server" ... waht is going on, how do I restart my print server / debu this?
[10:17] <ioriveur> Oh sorry,
[10:17] <gry> !X | Arz
[10:17] <rigved> DawnLight: i think yes...in the last step of the installation it will ask you what all tasks you want to install - in this screen, untick Desktop environment. and you should have only CLI then
[10:17] <ioriveur> I lost this > but when i press ctrl + alt + f1 at the ubuntu splash screen then i can type but for a short time
[10:17] <ioriveur> Arz
[10:18] <llutz_> accel: sudo service cups restart
[10:18] <ioriveur> short time? I think this must be login console.
[10:19] <DawnLight> thanks rigved
[10:19] <ioriveur> Arz:short time? I think this must be login console. Login.
[10:21] <Arz> in a console?
[10:21] <ilea> will ubuntu see a sis video card?
[10:21] <Arz> but how come my keyboard stops working when that screen comes?
[10:22] <bahamas> anyone here working for ubuntu? i'm interested in knowing what do you have to know to work as a software developer for them (more than what the job ad gives), and what's it like to work with their team.
[10:22] <bahamas> by ubuntu, i meant working for canonical :)
[10:23] <Arz> I install ubuntu before but this problem never occured :( why is this happening now?
[10:24] <harry_> bahamas_: so u want to work as a devloper in canonical , right ??
[10:24] <ioriveur> I wanna work as a volunteer in upper stream.
[10:25] <bahamas> harry_: something like that
[10:25] <ThatJGreen> hi
[10:25] <ThatJGreen> hello
[10:25] <harry_> okay
[10:25] <ioriveur> Well, Arz, anyway, could you login in tty0(this means the screen that you get pushing Ctrl Alt f1)
[10:26] <ioriveur> Arz, and is your hardware obsolete?
[10:26] <Arz> ioriveur : yes but only when the ubuntu screen comes, and what do you mean by that?
[10:27] <ThatJGreen> obsolete means out of date
[10:27] <bahamas> harry_: do you have any insight or you just asked?
[10:29] <pk__> i need mingw 4.3 or later but it is only 4.2 in repository
[10:29] <pk__> what should i do
[10:29] <oshekfeh> Hello, I installed ubuntu on my hp pavilion dv5, everything is Ok, but internet is too slow, I installed windows 7 using virtual box and I found that internet is fast on it!! what can I do?
[10:29] <pk__> i tried to compile but it is too complex procedure for me
[10:29] <harry_> no i just asked actually working with canonical requiers ceratin level of expericne and high skeel or good command on the GUI or on the scripting i guess...u seems to have good experince???
[10:29] <ioriveur> Arz, well, is there any login prompt? such : login:
[10:30] <ioriveur> If not, go tty1 (C-A-F2)
[10:30] <Arz> ah so what exactly do I have to do?
[10:30] <ioriveur> s/0/1
[10:30] <Arz> what?
[10:32] <bahamas> harry_: i'm a web developer at the moment and i know python really well. i'm also familiar with twisted, but not at an advanced level. i haven't played with go though
[10:32] <ioriveur> I wanna know whether your system is able to be login, or not.
[10:33] <oshekfeh> Hello, I installed ubuntu on my hp pavilion dv5, everything is Ok, but internet is too slow, I installed windows 7 using virtual box and I found that internet is fast on it!! what can I do?
[10:33] <gr33n7007h> i got a problem i forgotten root password please help me
[10:34] <deem> gr33n7007h: there is no root password
[10:35] <_ramo1> iceroot: do you have an tutorial how to do this?
[10:35] <Arz> ioriveur : and how can I tell you that?
[10:35] <gr33n7007h> su root prompts me with a password
[10:35] <harry_> gr33n7007h_: you can try to login as root user vai terminal by typing "sudo su -" and then enetr the password of the current user
[10:36] <mang0> How do I make a new folder from terminal?
[10:36] <gr33n7007h> harry thats worked how do i change root pass
[10:36] <CoreStyx> hello, can anybody help with mdadm RAID with lvm volume on top?
[10:36] <ioriveur> Arz, is there login:(your name)
[10:36] <ioriveur> and password:
[10:37] <Myrtti> gr33n7007h: please don't enable root password
[10:37] <Punna> Anyone know why I have over 30k ACPI CPU Interrupts per second?
[10:37] <gr33n7007h> why
[10:37] <Myrtti> gr33n7007h: it's not really supported method of using Ubuntu
[10:37] <Punna> causing my computer to overheat and have no battery life.
[10:37] <gr33n7007h> ok
[10:37] <harry_> gr33n7007h: now type "passwd" and enetr the new password
[10:37] <gr33n7007h> thanks harry
[10:37] <micols> Punna: where do you measure it?
[10:38] <harry_> gr33n7007h: u welcome
[10:38] <oshekfeh> I installed ubuntu on my hp pavilion dv5, everything is Ok, but internet is too slow, I installed windows 7 using virtual box and I found that internet is fast on it!! what can I do?
[10:38] <CatFish> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5vmSR3Ob4&feature=BFa&list=PL1CC7D0BB46BED595&index=98
[10:38] <CatFish> hi every one
[10:38] <Auriga> Q: If installing more than one Linux based OS, do I need more than one swap area, id est, set up one swap area per install? Or all OS's will use the same Swap?
[10:39] <Arz> ioriveur : no
[10:39] <_ramo1> iceroot: currently i need it just one way.... i would liek to write some emails to me locally....
[10:39] <Punna> micols: powertop
[10:39] <ioriveur> Well, Arz, how many old your system is?
[10:40] <szal> Auriga: as you won't be running more than one installation at a time, one swap partition will suffice
[10:41] <Auriga> szal, Right so they do all use the same swap. Thank you. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to be low on resources because of an oversight as small as that.
[10:41] <jrib> Auriga: the only reason I can imagine for wanting multiple swap partitions is if you want to swap-to-disk several distros at once
[10:42] <[HzF]Rocker> Hey, can someone help me with a WIFI problem?
[10:42] <Punna> micols: any ideas?
[10:42] <Arz> ioriveur : not a problem with the system im damn sure cuz it worked before but i removed it and now it isnt working! i have windows 7 64bit and 32bit and also windows vista 32bit installed, so the system is rocking fast.
[10:42] <jrib> [HzF]Rocker: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[10:42] <Auriga> jrib, How do you mean swap-to-disk? You mean switch to a live cd & configure a swap area?
[10:42]  * szal has 3 swap partitions and all activated, but this just as a precaution if one or more disks fail
[10:42] <jrib> Auriga: no, like "hibernate" in windows
[10:43] <jrib> Auriga: I meant "suspend-to-disk", not "swap-to-disk", sorry
[10:43] <[HzF]Rocker> Connect button is greyed out, before that, the pc tried to connect with wrong settings, but the password was correct - now it can't even attempt to connect
[10:43] <[HzF]Rocker> What to do? :'(
[10:44] <Auriga> jrib, Ahhh okay, but how would that help? To have multiple swaps for that? You mean you would configure each swap to an OS, then that OS uses it's allocated swap area in suspend...? That sounds really convoluted lol.
[10:44] <maalac> need help. my eth0(LAN) is not working whenever i turn on my laptop HP probook 6555b on battery. pls. help ..
[10:45] <ZenMaster> Man I'm at the point where the idea of ever doing anything in Linux is just a total waste of time unless you are 18 and have time to waste.
[10:45] <ZenMaster> I am so sick of software requreiing modules that require depenedencies that require modules that don't work half the time, and documentation is scarce.
[10:45] <morri> what has age to do with it?
[10:45] <ZenMaster> I am getting to old of this crap.
[10:45] <[HzF]Rocker> Linux is useful to me for debugging purposes
[10:45] <MarcelT3> freedom has it´s cost :D
[10:46] <ZenMaster> I guess yeah.
[10:46] <maalac> need help. my eth0(LAN) is not working whenever i turn on my laptop HP probook 6555b on battery. pls. help ..
[10:46] <Auriga> That's quite deep.
[10:46] <Auriga> "Freedom has it's cost"
[10:46] <ZenMaster> Lets say my linux rig was the only thing I had to record this band tomorrow.
[10:46] <ZenMaster> I would be in deep trouble.
[10:46] <jrib> ZenMaster: and thus apt was created
[10:46] <mang0> lol!
[10:46] <Punna> Anyone know why I have over 30k ACPI CPU Interrupts per second? This causes severe overheating and batttery issue.
[10:46] <wooter> every tool has a different purpose ZenMaster
[10:46] <ZenMaster> Yeap, apt got my 50% of what I needed.
[10:47] <jrib> ZenMaster: do you have a support question?
[10:47] <ZenMaster> A bunch of software that soft've connects to eachother and does not work.
[10:47] <ZenMaster> Sure.
[10:47] <Morgz> ZenMaster - " I am so sick of..." - not very Zen
[10:47] <Auriga> Morgz, You said what I was thinking lol...
[10:47] <ioriveur> Arz, so I don't have any idea, go around and login without X
[10:47] <maalac> need help. my eth0(LAN) is not working whenever i turn on my laptop HP probook 6555b on battery. pls. help ..
[10:47] <maalac> im using 10.10 Ubuntu
[10:47] <morri> is it recognised?
[10:47] <mang0> How do I move a file from one dir to another dir using terminal?
[10:48] <adewisman1> !best > adewisman1
[10:48] <CoinOp> Yeah my name never lets me express my frustration in the half ass poorly patched linux distrobution.
[10:48] <CoinOp> I think this machine will go back to being waht most *nix is good for only.
[10:48] <CoinOp> A router......
[10:48] <mang0> pfft
[10:48] <jrib> CoinOp: please stick to support.  You have yet to ask a question
[10:48] <maalac> need help. my eth0(LAN) is not working whenever i turn on my laptop HP probook 6555b on battery. pls. help ..
[10:48] <jrib> !cli > mang0
[10:48] <CoinOp> jrib: I did earlier.
[10:48] <mang0> jrib: thanks
[10:48] <jrib> mang0: mv /path/to/file /new/path/to/file
[10:48] <Morgz> Just for the record #1 - apropos #2 man "result.
[10:49] <jrib> CoinOp: well it's getting lost in all of the non-support conversation
[10:49] <harry_> mango:mv "soure" "destination"
[10:49] <auronandace> CoinOp: no you didn't, you just complained
[10:49] <mang0> harry_: yeah got it, thanks
[10:49] <mang0> :)
[10:49] <CoinOp> Uhhh scroll up about two hours.
[10:49] <harry_> yes maalac tell
[10:49] <CoinOp> So here is my support question give me three seconds to type it.
[10:50] <Auriga> ....lol
[10:50] <maalac> harry_: my LAN network is not turning on whenever i'm on battery mode
[10:50] <ZenMaster> Does anyone have any good doscumentation I can read on how to make Ubuntu Studio work with my Presonus FirePod FP-10.
[10:50] <harry_> on bettery mode only otherwose it works fine ?
[10:51] <Morgz> ZenMaster - where does it all go pear shaped...
[10:51] <maalac> harry_: yes, but i need it to work on battery mode ..
[10:51] <ZenMaster> Morgz: ?
[10:51] <Morgz> ubuntu studio. does it install properly?
[10:52] <ZenMaster> Morgz: Yes. :)
[10:52] <harry_> strage issues dude
[10:52] <Morgz> so whats the problem, what documentation do u seek?
[10:52] <Arz> ioriveur : last time can you please tell me what exactly do i need to do?
[10:52] <ZenMaster> Morgz: I can get Jack to detect my firepod, it is just unstable. I can't close it it just crashes, pretty much for every option if it does not work, I end up having to restart the machine.
[10:53] <adewisman1> Need a good office suite anyone can recommend?, I need the suite to be lightweight but has all the necessary function to run calculation (excel 2007 supported ), preferable not a java based platform, thanks
[10:53] <ZenMaster> The Specific error that I get Ranges from cannont create a new client, to ardour not being able to connect o jackd.
[10:53] <Punna> micols: any ideas?
[10:53] <morri> theeres thw ones that lubuntu has
[10:53] <Punna> ...
[10:54] <MarcelT3> some fellas with experience in running ubuntu server as host for many virtual servers in here?
[10:54] <jrib> MarcelT3: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[10:54] <Morgz> Zenmaster-  at first glance firepod looks like old propriety hardware. are there supported drivers?
why dont you check the proper connection is there or not may be the bettry input and the your netplueg may gets conflig over somewhere...??
[10:54] <ZenMaster> This FirePod FP10 is on the preffered hardware list for Ubuntu Studio. The driver to be used is Ffado or something like that. Used to be (freebob).
[10:55] <MarcelT3> kk :) can you recommend a resource/tutorial on how to layout a host for later virtualized web servers?
[10:55] <Morgz> ZenMaster - sorry, I gotta tap out. Way out of my league, plenty of other folk in here with know how..
[10:55] <harry_> maalac:why dont you check the proper connection is there or not may be the bettry input and the your netplueg may gets conflig over somewhere...??
[10:56] <maalac> harry_: that's the problem i dn't know where to look ..
[10:56] <ZenMaster> Morgz: Thanks for the support and hearing my rant. I really wanted to try out this rig on a live recording. And I'm going on about 8 straight hours of no success.
[10:56] <vostro> did u start with ubuntu destop and upgrade to ubuntu studio zenmaster
[10:56] <ZenMaster> vostro: Yes that is correct.
[10:56] <Morgz> ZenMaster - I hear ya buddy. When google fails, hit x chat and keep keeping on till you get results ;)
[10:56] <ZenMaster> I was thinking about downloading the Studio to the USB stick and trying that to see if I get less hardware trouble.
[10:56] <ZenMaster> Yeap.
[10:57] <vostro> u should try non grafical install of ubuntu studio
[10:57] <morri> by the way is it possible to have a wubi double boot?(having twwo wubus such as wubi ubuntu and wubi lubuntu?
[10:57] <ZenMaster> Well when I did do the upgrade I did it through the terminal, with no errors.
[10:57] <vostro> i would say that a dep is not being met or a config error in the upgrade zenmaster
[10:57] <harry_> maalac:okay first of check you ur cable connection is proper or not
[10:57] <theadmin> morri: Unfortunately nope, however, you can install LXDE from Ubuntu or such
[10:58] <ZenMaster> vostro: Interesting.
[10:58] <vostro> zenmaster have u verified the port actually works
[10:58] <maalac> harry_: i'm sure is properly connected.
[10:58] <morri> ok thanks, but it won't uninstall all the gnome only needed files then would it?
[10:58] <ZenMaster> vostro: Port for which application we are talking about? The Entire Studio?
[10:59] <vostro> zenmaster a fresh install with ubuntu studio may work other then that try uninstalling jack and deps and reinstalling it
[10:59] <ZenMaster> Got ya.
[10:59] <ZenMaster> Going to try that.
[11:00] <ZenMaster> Ok for my other question. I have installed a new video card, and still yet can't run Unity.
[11:00] <ZenMaster> Geforce GTX 5800 PCI.
[11:00] <vostro> what vidcard zenmaster
[11:00] <ZenMaster> The menu's blink repeatedly.
[11:00] <harry_> maalac:then it must went something wrong with your laptop hardware issue try to contact to the provider from hwre you bought laptop...
[11:00] <vostro> pci express zenmaster
[11:00] <ZenMaster> PCI.
[11:00] <ZenMaster> Older machines.
[11:00] <[HzF]Rocker> ZenMaster isn't that card very very old ?
[11:00] <ZenMaster> 256mb Video memory OpenGel 2.0.
[11:01] <ZenMaster> Young'ens... :D
[11:01] <vostro> yes unfortunatly not enough power there in zenmaster the pci bandwidth no 3d
[11:01] <ZenMaster> Hey the requirements I think for Unity were OpenGL1.4 and newer.
[11:01] <ioriveur> Oh, sorry Arz, but what I can say is just login without X....
[11:01] <ZenMaster> Gay.
[11:01] <vostro> zenmaster brb
[11:01] <ZenMaster> Np.
[11:01] <maalac>  harry_: oh man ..:-/ what the ...
[11:01] <Spacewalker> ZenMaster: What?
[11:01] <Arz> ioriveur : how?
[11:02] <ZenMaster> Apparently, the card I put in this machine is not capable of handling Unity.
[11:02] <rabbit1> unable to connect to internet through huawei 3g e-stick on ubuntu 10.04, please help
[11:02] <ZenMaster> Though.... unless I was in a dream, meets the requirements.
[11:03] <[HzF]Rocker> In rare cases it may work lol
[11:03] <harry_> malaac:lol,,yess there must be some confilict between your netconnection socket and bettry charging.....
[11:03] <morri> try ndiswrapper
[11:03] <ZenMaster> Spacewalker: Did that answer your question?
[11:04] <[HzF]Rocker> Anyone able to help me ?
[11:04] <Spacewalker> ZenMaster: Um. Nevermind.
[11:04] <ZenMaster> Spacewalker: Let me guess did you want to say something about the "gay" comment?
[11:04] <ZenMaster> [HzF]Rocker: Whats up brother?
[11:04] <ioriveur> move  /etc/rc*.d/S*gdm /etc/rc*.d/K*gdm
[11:04] <Spacewalker> yes.
[11:04] <[HzF]Rocker> Connect button is greyed out, before that, the pc tried to connect with wrong settings, but the password was correct - now it can't even attempt to connect
[11:04] <ioriveur> Arz
[11:05] <[HzF]Rocker> Hence i can't connect to the wifi network
[11:05] <ZenMaster> Spacewalker: You can't rule me on that becuase you can't tell what my connotation is via txt. Thus making your judgement in accurate. So yes it was more wise to not say anything at all.
[11:06] <ZenMaster> [HzF]Rocker: Is there a file that holds all of your wifi settings? like a ".wifi" in your home dir or something, back in the days of bsd there was "net-config".
[11:06] <[HzF]Rocker> dunno, gonna go look
[11:06] <maalac> harry_: this is so strange. the only reason why i want this to work because whenever i boot up with adapter and then unplug it. it freezes. so i have to start it on battery mode..
[11:06] <wols_> ZenMaster: network manager has a config file somewhere. or /etc/network/interfaces if you use that
[11:08] <Ramses> someone registered my nick
[11:08] <harry_> okay the way for now seems charge ur laptop firt then user your netconnection....otherwise show it to some hardware expert :)
[11:09] <[HzF]Rocker> No such file found
[11:09] <maalac> harry_: anyway, thanks for the help ...appreciate it ..
[11:10] <maalac> harry_: i'm thinking of upgrading it to 11.10 alpha3. for this version of Ubuntu there is a know bug issue on battery mode
[11:10] <harry_> mallac:anytime :)
[11:11] <harry_> but better be carefully do some research work as in ubuntu 11.04 there are some very know issues are there if your are devloper in linux else you want it for ur documention work then its fine,.
[11:12] <[HzF]Rocker> ZenMaster, any other idea?
[11:12] <Punna> Would someone help me with this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/56278/acpi-30k-interrupts-per-second
[11:12] <elky> ZenMaster, Please don't use pejoratives such as "gay" in this channel. It's simply not acceptable here.
[11:12] <maalac> i have very bad experience on 11.04..i'm going to try on the 11.10 this might fix all the other issues of 11.04
[11:13] <harry_> maalac:yes thats better if you go for Ubuntu 11.10
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Punna: do you have the latest BIOS?
[11:15] <[HzF]Rocker> Hello? - i need some help before i scratch a hole in my head >.<
[11:15] <Punna> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Punna: tried booting with the:  noacpi   bootoption?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: wassup?
[11:16] <[HzF]Rocker> The wifi Connect button is greyed out, before that, the pc tried to connect with wrong settings, but the password was correct - now it can't even attempt to connect
[11:16] <Punna> ActionParsnip: Just to clarify this started suddenly a couple of days ago. It didn't have this issue before (though I had a tonne of headaches with Linux on my computer in general..)
[11:16] <Punna> ActionParsnip: and how?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Punna
[11:16] <caferius> hi there  i am using a macbook and i installed refit and ubuntu but i am unable to use my isight camera even i did add appleUSBvideosupport file
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan     do you see wireless access points?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> caferius: which macbook?
[11:17] <caferius> 13.3 black... last of his kind :)
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> caferius: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; lsusb   please
[11:17] <Punna> ActionParsnip: brb lunch
[11:18] <harry_> hey...any one has any information on how the system works when i select langauge at the time of login???
[11:18] <[HzF]Rocker> it says interface does not support scanning
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: ok then reboot and run:  dmesg | less      read the boot messages, you will find clues in there
[11:19] <ffeegxh> so i've just insert my old usb hdd box in my ubuntu, i see this in my /var/log/messages http://pastebin.com/sReaTXJ8 for some reason this hdd doesn't appear in my ubuntu's hdd list, any key to that?
[11:19] <caferius> i have typed it ti terminal, ActionParsnip. Which part do you want to know?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> caferius: all, make a pastebin of the full output
[11:19] <glebihan> harry_, it sets some environment variables (LANG and LANGUAGE) to the correct values
[11:19] <[HzF]Rocker> @ActionParSnip - it does list the network i want to connect to, does that make a difference?
[11:19] <oshekfeh> After I installed ubuntu, I found that access to internet is very slow, can anybody help me?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ffeegxh: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    does it show?
[11:20] <ffeegxh> ActionParsnip: one moment, btw 	Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: is that the scan or the dmesg output?
[11:20] <[HzF]Rocker> scan
[11:20] <caferius> No LSB modules are available.
[11:20] <caferius> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[11:20] <caferius> Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
[11:20] <caferius> Release:	11.04
[11:20] <caferius> Codename:	natty
[11:20] <FloodBot1> caferius: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: that's cool, what is the interface name used?
[11:20] <caferius> Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05ac:0229 Apple, Inc. Internal Keyboard/Trackpad (MacBook Pro) (ANSI)
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> caferius: use a pastebin. I told you TWICE
[11:20] <ffeegxh> ActionParsnip: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[11:21] <Ramses> I am always here if someone need to compile something
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ffeegxh: when you last unplugged it from a system, what steps did you take?
[11:21] <harry_> glebihan: yes precisely but what i am facing in Ubuntu 11.04 is that when ever i change the langauge at the time of login it wont set the environment and the locale variable to that lanague which i have selected at the time of login..??
[11:21] <ffeegxh> ActionParsnip: well it should be empty
[11:21] <ffeegxh> ActionParsnip: i guess
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ffeegxh: is it a brand new drive?
[11:22] <[HzF]Rocker> eth0 i think
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: for wireless?, read the output and it says :)
[11:22] <glebihan> harry_, one minute, let me have a look
[11:22] <harry_> yes please...
[11:22] <harry_> :)
[11:22] <[HzF]Rocker> ow, wait, that's wrong, it's supposed to be NETGEAR
[11:22] <Elirips> Hello all. What can I do, if the "Starter" (this thing on the left) wont hide again?
[11:22] <Elirips> reboot?
[11:23] <ffeegxh> ActionParsnip: hdd owner told me that he remved file system, so it is like a brand new
[11:23] <sam_mule> How do i stop ubuntu from keeping a history of the last documents I have opened.
[11:23] <ffeegxh> ActionParsnip: so, i just format it and it will work?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ffeegxh: then I would use gparted and create a new partition. Make sure you select the sdb under the devices menu so you are working on the new drive
[11:24] <sudokill> sam_mule- there should be a recently used file in home
[11:24] <ffeegxh> ActionParsnip: thank you
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ffeegxh: yes, its not partitioned so you cannot use it yet
[11:24] <sudokill> sam_mule- do sudo chattr +i on it
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ffeegxh: :D
[11:24] <sam_mule> sudokill: what will that do?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Elirips: it's called Unity. The settings are in ccsm. You may need to install compizconfig-settings-manager so you can run ccsm
[11:25] <sudokill> sam_mule- make it so it cant be written to or deleted
[11:25] <jasonmsp> Anyone know how to get the F10 key to work in the terminal on Natty  so that I can close htop on my server?
[11:25] <[HzF]Rocker> @ActionParsnip, i still don't get what to do, the scan doesn't say which interface was used, but it did use the wifi card (as it found 7 wifi networks)
[11:25] <sam_mule> sudokill: so in sudo cmd just put what you said.  Or do i need to goto a folder first ?
[11:25] <glebihan> harry_, it seems that the variables which values are set when you select the language are in fact LANGUAGE, GDM_LANG and LC_MESSAGES
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: try:  sudo iwlist scan | head -n 20    eth0 wil be listed, underneath will be the wireless interface name
[11:26] <Elirips> ActionParsnip: I didnt change anything in the configuration, I opened firefox, and now the thing wont hide again
[11:26] <oshekfeh> After I installed ubuntu, I found that access to internet is very slow, can anybody help me?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Elirips: it may need tweaking
[11:26] <Elirips> ActionParsnip: why, before it always hidded again after I opened a programm
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> oshekfeh: tried the google dns servers? may help (plus it's free to try)
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Elirips: well its not doing it now so something must be wrong, right?
[11:27] <harry_> yes mostly GDM_LANG but this GDM_LANG is what ??
[11:27] <Elirips> ActionParsnip: indeed.
[11:27] <harry_> i use env | grep LANG command
[11:27] <Lostvoices> i have 2 pcs with ubuntu on them and i want to send files from one to the other over wifi. how do i setup a network to do this on ubuntu?
[11:27] <oshekfeh> ActionParsnip: Ok I will try
[11:27] <harry_> glebihan:yes mostly GDM_LANG but this GDM_LANG is what ??
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Elirips: instal the app then check the unity settings, you can set the hide style there
[11:27] <sam_mule> sudokill: so in sudo cmd just put what you said.  Or do i need to goto a folder first ?
[11:27] <dr_willis> jasonmsp,  its in the settings/profile for the terminal. its remaped to some other function. I always have to disable that for mc to work right
[11:28] <b0ot> I can't seem to stream to a multicast ip address in ubuntu 10.04
[11:28] <b0ot> it seems like any connection to a multicast ip address fails
[11:28] <glebihan> harry_, not sure, never saw that one before
[11:28] <dr_willis> jasonmsp,  under 'keyboard shortcuts' it seems.
[11:28] <b0ot> any ideas what could be causing that?
[11:29] <jasonmsp> dr_willis There is a setting in terminal that does not enable  the f10 key  but when deslected it still does not send the f10 through the terminal.
[11:29] <harry_> glebihan:okay but by which command you got the LC_MESSAGE??
[11:29] <glebihan> harry_, GDM is the gnome display manager, which handles the login, so that variable must be set when you login when I don't know what it is used for
[11:29] <[HzF]Rocker> @ActionParsnip: uhm, then waht? - i do get a list containing address, channel, etc. and it's the right one + some "IE: Unknown: " stuff
[11:29] <sam_mule> How do i stop ubuntu from keeping a history of the last documents I have opened.
[11:30] <glebihan> harry_, the "env" command lists all environment variables
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: what is teh scanning interface name?
[11:30] <dr_willis> jasonmsp,  odd..   This is in htop you are having the issues. I always use mc.. let me try htop and see if it works.
[11:30] <[HzF]Rocker> @ActionParsnip: wlan0
[11:30] <jemparin1> good evening
[11:30] <harry_> glebihan:okay thanks a ton :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> sam_mule: http://ubuntuguide.net/clearprevent-recent-documents-under-files-folders-in-ubuntu-unity
[11:31] <glebihan> harry_, you're welcome
[11:31] <gry> jemparin1: Good evening.
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: ok that's cool. Did you check the dmesg output?
[11:31] <jemparin1> everything should be fine
[11:31] <[HzF]Rocker> i missed that
[11:31] <dr_willis> jasonmsp,  hmm.. seems its broken.. odd.. for htop you can use 'q' to quit. but  now in my case F10 dosent work for mc either.. interesting.
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: reboot and login, then run:   dmesg | tail
[11:32] <dr_willis> jasonmsp,  i never noticed thatbefor. i tend to use terminator instead of gnome0terminal
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: read the output, some lines will relate to the wifi setting up, may give clues
[11:32] <harry_> glebihan:now i just need to find out what the LC_MESSAGE means and how to assess it in my project using qt
[11:32] <dr_willis> jasonmsp,  it could be compiz is grabbing the f10 key also
[11:33] <Ramses> you guys need to create a way to we have ubuntu and windows on the same machine at the same time without installation, like a live cd
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> caferius: did you make the pastebin yet?
[11:33] <Ramses> my dad dont allo me to use only ubuntu
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Ramses: how will it be "on the system" if it's not installed?
[11:34] <Ramses> II am thinking, wait
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Ramses: you can install Ubuntu in a persistant mode to a USB stick / SD card / CF etc
[11:34] <Ramses> My job depends on windows
[11:34] <sam_mule> ActionParsnip: I get no such file.
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Ramses: just tell your system to boot the external storage when you want Ubuntu
[11:35] <Ramses> my dad is always watching me all day long
[11:35] <dr_willis> jasonmsp,  its looking like somthing else is grabbing the F10 key. even in xterm the F10 key is not working.
[11:35] <Ramses> it would interesting to have ubuntu also in the machine like Cygwin
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> sam_mule: there is a lot here http://askubuntu.com/questions/34592/how-to-clear-recently-used-files
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Ramses: it can be if you have it over LAN
[11:36] <dr_willis> Ramses,  'colinux' has linux running in a virtual machine you access via xming on a windows box.. its not officially supportede here.. but its a neat tool.
[11:36] <Ramses> a will llok at it, thanks
[11:36] <dr_willis> Ramses,  andlinux is ubuntu setup with colinux (i think)  but its also not supported here..
[11:37] <Ramses> ok, maybe it is what I am looking for
[11:37] <dr_willis> Ramses,  then theres good old virtualbox.
[11:37] <jasonmsp> well you can exit with Q so thats what I'll do for now.  Thanks!
[11:37] <[HzF]Rocker> @ActionParsnip: it listed some stuff, but nothing relates to wifi, except: "cfg80211: found new beacon on frequency 2472Mhz (Ch 13) on phy0"
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: nice, anything else?
[11:38] <sam_mule> ramses: why don't you run in a VM
[11:38] <[HzF]Rocker> @ActionParsnip: it said wlan0 is not ready as well
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: any reason, should be stated in the dmesg output
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: if you drop the @ then your text will highlight to me, the @ nonsense makes it not work
[11:40] <[HzF]Rocker> Sorry, the autocomplete on my client started go nuts ;o
[11:40] <[HzF]Rocker> irc client*
[11:40] <Herakles> can anybody helpme to get unbaned from #ubuntu-de
[11:40] <Herakles> *unbanned
[11:40] <Pici> Herakles: Try asking in #ubuntu-irc
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Herakles: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[11:41] <Herakles> UBUNTu-who ?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Herakles: or wher Pici says
[11:41] <Herakles> IRC OR OP
[11:41] <gry> Herakles: -ops
[11:41] <Pici> no
[11:41] <Pici> Herakles: Please ask in #ubuntu-irc
[11:41] <damno> eth0 on my computer is damaged, so i use eth1  bt Vbox doesnt report eth1 to any virtual box
[11:41] <damno> *virtual machine
[11:42] <Herakles> dam it.... i not gonna ask trice....
[11:42] <gry> Herakles: use the last response I guess
[11:42] <aum___> how can i compress a video using ffmpeg
[11:43] <[HzF]Rocker> ActionParsnip: i don't get what the "dmesg | tail" output meant, can you explain or shall i put it on pastebin so you can look?
[11:43] <gry> aum___: `man ffmpeg` might clarify that - if you have certain things you tried and which failed, just ask in here.
[11:43] <damno> eth0 on my computer is damaged, so i use eth1  bt Vbox doesnt report eth1 to any virtual machine
[11:44] <th0r> damno: vbox creates virtual interfaces. It should do NAT to whatever working interface you have on the host
[11:44] <aum___> gry, the `man ffmpeg` is very big i am just failed to follow it can you specify which switch to use
[11:44] <damno> th0r: bt it doesnt
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> [HzF]Rocker: it's quite readable, its the kernel messages since boot. The reboot reduces the amount greatly. If you can get a wired connection you can always install wicd, uninstall network manager then reboot
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> damno: have you asked in #vbox
[11:45] <damno> i think i got it
[11:45] <damno> let me see
[11:45] <gry> aum___: see http://linuxers.org/tutorial/how-compress-audio-files-using-ffmpeg
[11:46] <aum___> gry , thank you but that link was for audio not video...
[11:46] <gry> aum___: ah
[11:47] <[HzF]Rocker> Omg, so much trouble, Then i rather go find a ethernet cable and use that when i need internet on ubuntu
[11:50] <BenN> per favore ditemi che programma devo usare per scaricare i torrent con ubuntu lucid con fastweb
[11:50] <gry> aum___: might try http://nederhoed.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/convert-and-compress-flip-video-on-linux-with-ffmpeg/
[11:51] <damno> #vbox is deserted
[11:51] <BenN> perche sto usando deluge ma va lentissimo
[11:51] <snn> hello all
[11:51] <BenN> per piacere damno  scusa puoi dirmi che programma va meglio per scaricare i torrent da fastweb?
[11:51] <damno> I chose eth1 from bridge network adapters.. dsnt work
[11:51] <tjiggi_fo> BenN, : ubuntu-it
[11:52] <snn> re
[11:52] <snn> rEFIt cant see my ubuntu live usb
[11:52] <snn> i have natty installed on it
[11:52] <snn> halp
[11:52] <morri> ...
[11:53] <snn> i have a macbook pro 6,2
[11:53]  * [HzF]Rocker upgrades from v10.04 to latest (Wow, 304 days since it was "new"?)
[11:53] <Lasers> [HzF]Rocker: You don't have to upgrade. 10.04 is perfectly stable. :)
[11:54] <blink> I have a folder with ton of pictures, why everytime I open it, it takes so much times loading pictures individually?
[11:54] <aum___> gry, thank you again but that didn't work :(
[11:54] <gry> aum___: hmm
[11:55] <CBaggers> Blink: you don't use bleachbit or other cruft cleaning software do you?
[11:56] <[HzF]Rocker> I'd like to, as it may solve a slow boot process
[11:56] <blink> CBaggers, I don't so.
[11:56] <blink> CBaggers, I don't think* so.
[11:56] <gry> aum___: alternatively you could use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MEncoder - it's documented at the ubuntu wiki itself
[11:56] <CBaggers> Blink: And this is on an internal drive right?
[11:56] <blink> CBaggers, exactly.
[11:57] <Ramses> nothing is perfectly stable
[11:57] <snn> is it possible to install natty to a macbook pro from a usb disk?
[11:58] <Ramses> yes, it is
[11:58] <snn> i cant seem to get refit to see my live-usb though
[11:58] <snn> been searching for hours now, any help?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> snn: yes
[11:58] <gry> !usb
[11:58] <gry> snn ^
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> snn: did you MD5 test the ISO you transferred?
[11:59] <snn> actionparsnip no not really
[11:59] <CBaggers> Blink: weird, well theres the crappy answer- turn off previews but that doesn't really help...have you found the system slow on any other ways? Let me have a google and see if theres anything
[12:00] <snn> trying out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[12:00] <snn> maybe thatll do the trick since windows didnt
[12:00] <kingmilo> Hi Gents. I have a HP Micro Server with 4x 2TB Drives. I use the raid config and setup Raid 0 giving me a total of 8TB. When running the Ubuntu install (64bit Desktop natty), and getting to the partition screen it only shows a total of 1.4TB and not 8TB any ideas?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> snn: then how did you know the image was complete and consistant?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | snn
[12:03] <[HzF]Rocker> 8hours remaining? - that's slow 0.o
[12:03] <snn> ActionParsnip: i assumed that it was okay since this has never happened with a pc i had before. I suppose you're right
[12:07] <CBaggers> Blink: seen a couple of posts suggesting turning off assistive technologies if you don't need them (log out and in once you've done this) bout strange bit worth a try.
[12:12] <aum___> gry, thank you reducing the screen resolution done that...
[12:12] <gry> aum___: Nice.
[12:13] <crunchbang__> great
[12:13] <crunchbang__> in crunchy now
[12:14] <crunchbang__> vbox settings successful :)
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> crunchbang__: nice
[12:18] <[Liberty_Prime]> +1
[12:18] <[Liberty_Prime]> Доброго дня всем)
[12:18] <snn> md5 hash checks out
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> snn: good, remember to test beforehand in future :)
[12:18] <snn> created live usb
[12:18] <snn> refit did not see the live usb
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> snn: is there a key to hold for mac to mke it boot usb?
[12:19] <snn> ActionParsnip: if u mean the alt key yes, but im using refit and it does this everytime i restart so no
[12:20] <snn> also it didnt work without refit neither before i checksummed :p
[12:20] <snn> maybe i have mount the usb from refit?
[12:21] <[Liberty_Prime]> шозанах?
[12:22] <gry> !ru | [Liberty_Prime]
[12:22] <howel> My Banshee player won't play music anymore. I restarted and it's stopped working. I have sound in youtube. Does Banshee have a different sound setup than the system sound?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> snn: http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-boot-ubuntu-macbook-from-usb-0128013/    maybe
[12:23] <NetKing> why do you keep saying that
[12:23] <ioriveur> ru
[12:23] <chaoshax> When I launch start x I get a sever error with no screens found/
[12:23] <chaoshax> http://pastesite.com/25267
[12:24] <snn> ActionParsnip: meh. i dont have a cd with me right now maybe when i go to my house after work ill do this.
[12:25] <snn> thanks anyway, ill go search on google summore.
[12:25] <snn> learned how to md5 checksum though ^_^
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> chaoshax: set the driver to nv, then remove and reinstall the nvidia driver. Switch back after it reinstalls
[12:25] <bjhaid1> how do i access other pcs via remote desktop on my ubuntu 11.04
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> snn: always a good thing
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> bjhaid1: what protocol?
[12:26] <mang0> How do I delete a file from a dir in terminal?
[12:26] <bjhaid1> ActionParsnip: http, though its my first time with remote desktop
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> mang0: rm /path/to/filename
[12:26] <snn> mang0: rm /
[12:26] <snn> be careful though.
[12:26] <mang0> thanks
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> bjhaid1: no, is rdp or vnc?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> snn: rm / is ot wise at all
[12:27] <bjhaid1> ActionParsnip: vnc
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> mang0: don't run rm /
[12:27] <mang0> okay
[12:27] <mang0> what should I run then?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> bjhaid1: then use vinagre
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> mang0: whre is the file and what is the name
[12:27] <bjhaid1> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get install vinagre?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> bjhaid1: its in a default ubuntu install, running the command hurts nothing
[12:28] <mang0> /usr/share/opera/profiles/javascript/ is the dir, the name is 107907.user.js
[12:28] <mang0> ActionParsnip: ^
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> mang0: sudo rm /usr/share/opera/profiles/javascript/107907.user.js
[12:28] <mang0> um
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> mang0: that will delete 107907.user.js
[12:29] <mang0> ActionParsnip: That's what I was going to do...
[12:29] <mang0> but you said don't use rm
[12:29] <mang0> *confused*
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> mang0: no, I only said don't run:  rm /   as it will harm your OS
[12:29] <Arz> whats the command for fixing X errors?
[12:30] <mang0> ActionParsnip: I wasn't going to run rm /, I thought "rm /" ment "rm filepath"
[12:30] <krazykrivda> is anyone in here familiar with rooting/exploits that can point me in the direction of the general theory on what to look for?
[12:30] <mang0> so I was safe anyway
[12:31] <Arz> whats the command for fixing X errors?
[12:31] <bjhaid1> ActionParsnip: thanks, already using it
[12:32] <Arz> !x
[12:32] <Arz> ah phew
[12:35] <rileyp> anyone using lircs irsend with natty?
[12:36] <gry> rileyp: guess if you're asking #ubuntu, someone is
[12:36] <bjhaid1> ActionParsnip: i can access an ubuntu machine but not a windows server
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> mang0: rm / with delete EVERYTHING, if you set the file path to the file you wan to delete it will delete only that file
[12:36] <mang0> ah gotcha
[12:36] <mang0> thanks
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> bjhaid1: tsclient will let you connect to windows terminal services
[12:37] <gry> rileyp: please ask your full question, explain problems you have and version details
[12:37] <chaoshax> ActionParsnip, I removed nv drivers and installed latest nvidia still says no screens found
[12:37] <chaoshax> ActionParsnip, should I manually configure one?
[12:37] <b0ot> Something changes my statically defined IP address... is there anyway for me to figure out what does it
[12:37] <bjhaid1> ActionParsnip: do i need to install tsclient?
[12:38] <rileyp> I have a mceusb transiever works fine in lucid cant make it send in natty I know they have included mceusb drivers in kernel in natty and this has changed the way the mceusb must be set up
[12:39] <molly> join #ubuntu.it
[12:39] <molly> hi all
[12:40] <rileyp> I had lirc all worked out and along comes natty and I'm floored .
[12:40] <CatFish> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0
[12:41] <rileyp> gry Im on natty and installed lirc 0.90
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> bjhaid1: i believe its default, no harm in installing it though
[12:42] <rileyp> gry I have the mceusb receiving fine but sending it hates me... :D
[12:42] <lahwran> where would I find a panel applet to show the current time with a customizable format?  the default gnome-panel applet seems to no longer have that feature. (curse gnome)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> CatFish: please don't, this is support only
[12:43] <gry> rileyp: just don't assume that the oracle is *me* - but someone here should be able to respond to a question like that
[12:44] <rileyp> well last 3 days i have asked and no one jumps.... no love  even on #lirc .......though I'm never on for that long
[12:45] <rileyp> googling irsend in natty is banging head on wall...... zip
[12:45] <lahwran> lots of joins/parts and no reply :[
[12:46] <Sandra_> Hi, I own an ATI graphics card and I'm not sure what model it is, lscpi shows "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 760G [Radeon 3000]"
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Sandra_: then its a Radeon 3000
[12:47] <gry> rileyp: if nobody responds, there is the Ubuntu-users mailing list and http://ubuntuforums.org - I'm here just occasionally; about to leave
[12:47] <Sandra_> ActionParsnip: does that model exist? In AMD page there is no 3000 model, just HD 3000 an related
[12:47] <gry> rileyp: asking question in just one line here might be a good start
[12:48] <rileyp> Ive just logged into ubuntu forums and will make a post
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Sandra_: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/chipsets/7-series-integrated/Pages/amd-760g-chipset.aspx
[12:51] <Sandra_> ActionParsnip: thank you, do you know if the newest version of the catalyst driver 11.7 support it? At least the one in lucid does, but it has tearing
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Sandra_: not sure, I personally avoid Ati video cards
[12:52] <Sandra_> ActionParsnip: ok thank you.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Sandra_: others may be able to advise :)
[12:56] <spexi> What should I do to fix my samba shares, Windows 7 doesn't see them at all, WDTV Live device sees my computer but says "There's no media in the current folder". My ubuntu computer also can't connect to Windows 7 shares, and has some error message when I execute smbtree command.
[12:56] <strange_> hey guys i have a problem with jack sense when i plugin my headphones the internal speakers on my msi windtop wont disable
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> strange_: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[12:58] <strange_> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4d47275b8b6dab0afe264d09cf08af456e2f763e
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> strange_: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/unstable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[12:59] <strange_> ActionParsnip, reboot after that
[12:59] <dr_willis> spexi,  try entering the  serverip/sharepath/ directly.  Browsing of the  windows shared networks seems to be broken more in every ubuntu release.. and in every windows release i find..
[12:59] <strange_> ActionParsnip, or should it work instantly
[13:00] <dr_willis> spexi,  ie: ctrl-l    smb://ip.of.the.server/sharename
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> strange_: to my knowledge yes bt a reboot is no bad thing
[13:01] <thegoodcushion> Has anything changed with Natty that means that you cannot usermod while you're logged in?
[13:01] <spexi> dr_willis: doesn't work..
[13:02] <spexi> when typing smbtree, \\WDTVLIVE says "Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth' is disabled"
[13:02] <spexi> and failed tcon_X with NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[13:03] <strange_> anyone else have any suggestions about jack sense? actionparsnip was helping me but left and his solution didnt work when i plugin my headphones my internal speakers dont disable
[13:03] <Pulsewidth> I ran out of disk space with an ecryptfs home. I now have several zero length files in $HOME/.Private, how can I find the corresponding corrupted files?
[13:03] <blup> how can i track the ips of people who have/are connected to my website (apache)?
[13:03] <dr_willis> spexi,  ive learned that smbtree dosent work very well any more these days...   it used to (a few years back) work better for me.
[13:03] <dr_willis> spexi,  theres also findsmb, but it seems quirky also.
[13:03] <iceroot> blup: netstat
[13:04] <iceroot> blup: also you can enable the "status-mod" from apache
[13:04] <dr_willis> speakman, smbclient seems to work well with the right options.
[13:04] <iceroot> blup: http://alpha-unix.de/status
[13:04] <dr_willis> spexi, , smbclient seems to work well with the right options.
[13:04] <spexi> mmkay
[13:04] <blup> thanks iceroot
[13:05] <dr_willis> spexi,  also ive noticed that my Boxeebox seems to detect/show ALL the machines and shares... while none of the other pcs on the lan, (wndows or linuix) seems to find them all.
[13:05] <spexi> just can't get it why sharing has to be always a big problem
[13:05] <dr_willis> spexi,  ive basically fallan back to using static ip's and entering in the  ip/sharename directly in most cases.
[13:06] <spexi> well, i can't do that with WDTV Live device
[13:06] <dr_willis> spexi,   its gotten worse with win7 added into the mix. Ive not tried that FuseSMB tool in ages.. it was a handy on they fly share finder also.
[13:06] <spexi> and that's the main reason why I'm trying to get shares work
[13:06] <FJAA-1983> Greetings. I'm wondering if there is a fix or stable release of the package "fglrx" (ATI) for Kernel 2.6.39-0-generic. I've been searching the net but haven't found something conclusive.
[13:06] <dr_willis> spexi,  ive had issues with my WD video player (OPLAY) also. but its just a client. not a server.
[13:06] <spexi> yeah
[13:07] <dr_willis> spexi,  for my Oplay i had to enter the ip/sharename directly.
[13:07] <spexi> wdtv live is just external device connected to my tv and network with lan cable
[13:07] <spexi> and it sees my ubuntu computer, connects to it but says, that there's no media
[13:07] <researcher123456> hi everybody
[13:07] <researcher123456> may I ask questions here
[13:08] <theadmin> researcher123456: Only if they are related to the Ubuntu distribution.
[13:08] <dr_willis> spexi,  yep. My Oplay is the older version.  You may need to set up a guest user perhaps.  or enabvle verbose logging of samba and watch the logs to get a clue as to whats needed.
[13:08] <dr_willis> well i will bbl. good luck spexi
[13:08] <spexi> ty
[13:08] <spexi> I'll try verbose logging
[13:09] <raveendran> hello
[13:10] <rabbit1> got new seagate 500 GB EHDD, copied all files from Windows, now ubuntu doesn't recognise my EHDD, what to do?
[13:11] <theadmin> rabbit1, was the drive properly unmounted in Windows?
[13:12] <Nicolus> if i ssh into my server and run something .. it runs well but when i quit ssh it terminates how can i keep it running on the server irrespective of my connection also how can i screen into it it
[13:12] <theadmin> rabbit1, that is, did you click "Safely Remove Device" in tray and choose this drive, and chose "Stop", and were told "It is now safe to remove ..."?
[13:12] <troydm> Nicolus: nohup yourcommandhere
[13:12] <troydm> Nicolus: or use screen or tmux
[13:12] <serialsito> Nicolus, "screen" command is your friend
[13:12] <theadmin> tmux > screen > dtach
[13:13] <Nicolus> can u give me an example
[13:13] <theadmin> I don't really know any others
[13:13] <FJAA-1983> Greetings. I'm wondering if there is a fix or stable release of the package "fglrx" (ATI) for Kernel 2.6.39-0-generic. I've been searching the net but haven't found something conclusive.
[13:14] <troydm> Nicolus: nohup cp ./reallybigfile /to/new/path
[13:15] <OY1R> can anyone recommend an SSD for my laptop primary hd, not looking for lots of GB rather reliable/fast.
[13:15] <troydm> Nicolus: after this even if you quit your ssh session rm will remain running on server
[13:15] <troydm> OY1R: go with vertex2 or vertex3, also later is more expensive
[13:15] <bazhang> OY1R, ##hardware
[13:17] <kefmella> What can I use to enter working hours and get the minutes calculated in a nice gui not a spreadsheet?
[13:17] <Nicolus> hwo can i find if screen is installed on my server or not
[13:17] <Nicolus> its CENTOS
[13:17] <gry> Nicolus: ask #centos
[13:17] <theadmin> kefmella: There is a nice Java app called Rachota for working-time-tracking
[13:17] <theadmin> kefmella: http://rachota.sf.net
[13:17] <coz_> Nicolus,   open a terminal  type     screen
[13:18] <kefmella> love you @ theadmin
[13:18] <coz_> C-S-B,  type screen in terminal
[13:18] <theadmin> kefmella: Woah there, you're crossing the limits :/
[13:19] <dddbmt> Hi all. I'm looking for a editor with SVN,CVS,GIT,"Work on remote server through sshs/sftp". Basically I'm looking for a program like netbeans - except I don't want it to kill my computer.
[13:20] <krger> Would you also like a unicorn that takes you to work on a rainbow?
[13:20] <theadmin> krger: You do realize that this is somewhat offensive, right?
[13:21] <troydm> dddbmt: emacs :)
[13:21] <chaoshax> I am manually configuring xorg how do I find the bus id?
[13:21] <krishnan> wat is the channel for gentoo linux?
[13:21] <troydm> krishnan: try gentoo
[13:21] <th0r> krger: oh...can ubuntu do that?
[13:22] <krger> th0r: Yeah.  Just gotta find the right HOWTO.
[13:22] <escott> chaoshax, look through /sys
[13:22] <dddbmt> troydm, will I have to "learn" emacs? - Or can I use it as I use most other editors/IDEs.
[13:22] <escott> chaoshax, or use lshw. but why manual config why not use Xorg -configure
[13:22] <F-B-T> now?
[13:22] <F-B-T> whew
[13:22] <F-B-T> Srry room
[13:22] <chaoshax> escott, it's failing
[13:22] <chaoshax> escott, it ends up like this
[13:23] <chaoshax> escott, http://pastebin.com/WEaBjiHL
[13:23] <chaoshax> Why does it not have a gpu secrion?
[13:23] <chaoshax> Without the monitor stuff, I added that manually.
[13:23] <chaoshax> section*
[13:23] <theadmin> dddbmt: emacs is even weirder than Vim, in my opinion
[13:23] <troydm> dddbmt: you will have to learn it, but it's worth time spent
[13:23] <F-B-T> Okay, so.... Purged pulseaudio and lost the volume control that is present with a fn key combo
[13:24] <chaoshax> Why is xorg config not generate the gpu section and screen section?
[13:24] <xangua> F-B-T: install pulse again ;)
[13:24] <F-B-T> xangus I uninstalled it because I lost sound in a game I play.
[13:24] <troydm> also can anyone suggest console text editor with cua and and shift select for quick file editing
[13:25] <troydm> ?
[13:25] <theadmin> troydm: There aren't really any
[13:25] <F-B-T> If I could remember the pasuspender command and how to use it, I guess I could re-install it.
[13:25] <FJAA-1983> Greetings. I'm wondering if there is a fix or stable release of the package "fglrx" (ATI) for Kernel 2.6.39-0-generic. I've been searching the net but haven't found something conclusive.
[13:26] <troydm> i'm thinking of messing with nano source code in order to add those feautures to it
[13:27] <theadmin> troydm: You could try of course...
[13:27] <dddbmt> troydm, You don't know of anything that I can take in use over night? I have a deadline the day after tomorrow, and if I can't switch from Netbeans before that - I'll kill myself.
[13:28] <troydm> dddbmt: try jedit, also it lacks svn support, but if you know svn commands you can work this over
[13:28] <th0r> dddbmt: don't know if it is still available, but have you looked at nedit?
[13:28] <protauk> hi everybody, is here somebody to answer a technical question?
[13:28] <dddbmt> troydm. I'll look at that, then I'll just do the svn stuff cmd line.
[13:28] <dddbmt> th0r, i'll look at that as well!
[13:28] <dddbmt> Thanks both of you troydm and th0r!
[13:29] <gry> protauk: please assume that in support channels - it's annoying when new people ask "can I ask?" each time they join
[13:29] <troydm> protauk: there are plenty of tech ppl here, what's your problem
[13:29] <gry> it alwats is a yes
[13:29] <gry> always even.
[13:31] <troydm> dddbmt: ohh i forgot about Aptana, i use it from time to time for remote sftp file editing
[13:31] <protauk> is there a way to sort files by the mask like in windows like "a*f.*" or "*.jpg"?