[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[23:06] <RikMills> santa_: do you want the changes you push today uploaded?


[04:25] <mup> Bug #1954870 changed: Unable to deploy custom images imported in 3.0.0 after upgrading to 3.1.0 <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1954870>
[04:31] <mup> Bug #1954870 opened: Unable to deploy custom images imported in 3.0.0 after upgrading to 3.1.0 <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1954870>
[04:37] <mup> Bug #1954870 changed: Unable to deploy custom images imported in 3.0.0 after upgrading to 3.1.0 <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1954870>


[15:08] <kkeithley> can anyone tell me why launchpad is not letting me add https://launchpad.net/~nfs-ganesha/+archive/ubuntu/libntirpc-4 and https://launchpad.net/~gluster/+archive/ubuntu/glusterfs-9 as dependencies for  https://launchpad.net/~nfs-ganesha/+archive/ubuntu/nfs-ganesha-4/+edit-dependencies  ?
[15:08] <kkeithley> I have similar dependencies for https://launchpad.net/~nfs-ganesha/+archive/ubuntu/nfs-ganesha-3.0
[15:22] <kkeithley> never mind, I've sorted it


[08:27] <dednick> davmor2: Hi. Waiting on QA test for silo54. You know if anyone has picked it up?
[08:28] <davmor2> dednick: it's in the queue, not picked up yet
[08:28] <dednick> davmor2: ta.
[09:23] <seb128> btw for those who wonder about the mir blocked in proposed/bootest regression
[09:24] <seb128> it seems that the bootest test tries to update only the package it considers, not the silo set
[09:24] <seb128> e.g https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-boottest-mir/lastBuild/artifact/results/log/*view*/ updates mir
[09:24] <seb128> but doesn't update things that got rebuilt
[09:24] <seb128> so in this case old unity-system-compositor is kept and mir update
[09:24] <seb128> and the mismatch makes the compositor hit a stack smash error
[09:25] <seb128> ideally new mir should for to upgrade u-s-c then
[09:40] <mandel> sil2100, ok, si I'm getting a little annoyed with my silo hehe => https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-009-1-build/298/console
[09:40] <mandel> sil2100, timeout? wtf?
[09:41] <sil2100> mandel: hey! Missing build dependencies: libubuntuoneauth-2.0-dev (>= 15.10) <- the vivid part of the dual landing is missing this dep
[09:42] <mandel> sil2100, agh, and how can we fix that?
[09:42] <sil2100> mandel: the train was waiting and waiting for the dependency to be resolved and suddenly said it's enough waiting, since the dep still doesn't exist
[09:42] <mandel> sil2100, makes sense, but how can that be fixed?
[09:43] <mandel> sil2100, do we have to build the unit-click-scope in a diff silo?
[09:43] <sil2100> Let me check for this package
[09:43] <mandel> thx
[09:45] <sil2100> mandel: I think you'll have to ask tsdgeos or someone from the ubuntuone-credentials team to release the latest version to the vivid overlay-ppa...
[09:46] <tsdgeos> sil2100: mandel: i know nothing about  ubuntuone-credentials, dobey is your man
[09:46] <mandel> tsdgeos, ack
[09:46] <mandel> dobey, please.. whenever you are up ^^
[09:47] <sil2100> tsdgeos: latest release in wily was from your commit so I thought you were driving that ;)
[09:47] <tsdgeos> sil2100: nah, i just fixed a wrong anchors in the qml
[10:20] <doko> sil2100, whoever: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1475982  can you tell me how this was built in the past?
[10:44] <cjwatson> kyrofa: I cancelled some more unity-scope-snappy builds because they were hanging.  It looks like you still have a problem with processes (perhaps test harnesses or something) being left around by your build process.  You need to make sure that you clean them up.
[11:36] <marcustomlinson> trainguards: could somebody please reconfigure silo 8, had to add 2 MPs
[11:45] <zbenjamin> trainguards: can someone please assign line 66 ?
[11:46] <dobey> mandel, sil2100: yeah, you can't do dual landings for unity-scope-click
[11:46] <sil2100> marcustomlinson, zbenjamin: on it
[11:46] <zbenjamin> sil2100: thanks :)
[11:46] <marcustomlinson> sil2100: thanks
[11:54] <cwayne_> davmor2, sil2100 yo, you guys need me for anything or are we all set?
[11:55] <sil2100> cwayne_: hey! We'd need the custom tarballs pushed - we also were thinking we need the wily custom tarballs
[11:55] <sil2100> Once those land, we'll release the hooks and build a new image
[11:55] <davmor2> cwayne_: we alway needs someone to blame and ogra_ gets all of snappy now so feel free to hang around I'm sure we'll find something :)
[11:57] <cwayne_> davmor2, :P
[11:58] <cwayne_> sil2100, so am i good to press the buttons for both bq and arale?
[11:58] <davmor2> cwayne_: number 1 is obvious how did you let your phone get run over?
[11:58] <ogra_> davmor2, just to make popey happy... let me tell you that switching to snappy will fix that
[11:58] <ogra_> :P
[11:58] <popey> \o/
[11:58]  * popey adds 1 to the counter
[11:58] <ogra_> :)
[11:58] <sil2100> davmor2: ^ it's fine to release the vivid custom tarballs, right?
[11:59] <davmor2> sil2100: if it is the one I tested then yes
[11:59] <sil2100> davmor2: yeah, those you tested with the customization hooks
[11:59] <davmor2> sil2100: yeap that is fine
[12:00] <sil2100> cwayne_: then you're good to press teh buttonz
[12:00] <sil2100> cwayne_: I tried contacting penk to create the wily versions of the tarballs too...
[12:07] <cwayne> sil2100: ze buttonz, zey have been pushed
[12:07] <dobey> mandel, sil2100: it looks like content-hub and system-settings also have separate trunk and 15.04 branches
[12:07] <sil2100> zbenjamin: which line? 66 seems assigned already
[12:07] <sil2100> cwayne: thankz!
[12:08] <sil2100> dobey: system-settings is being dual-landes since a while now
[12:08] <cwayne> sil2100: ill try and whip up a wily guy today too if we dont hear from penk
[12:08] <sil2100> Content-hub I guess too
[12:08] <dobey> sil2100: well the upstream branches don't have matching history, so if that's true something is very broken there
[12:09] <sil2100> dobey: content-hub and system-settings don't have matching history as their being now built only from one trunk, the other is out of date probably
[12:09] <zbenjamin> sil2100: meh i was in the deprecated one again ....
[12:10] <dobey> sil2100: anyway, unity-scope-click/ubuntuone-credentials definitely do not support dual landings.
[12:11] <sil2100> mandel: ^
[12:11] <dobey> and almost everything using the dual landings is probably going to find things breaking soon
[12:12] <dobey> did u-d-m break abi?
[12:12] <zbenjamin> sil2100: 78 there it is
[12:12] <sil2100> zbenjamin: on it!
[12:14] <sil2100> zbenjamin: assigned
[12:18] <ogra_> did anyone else notice that there is quite some dealy before apps take input after being brought to fg ?
[12:18] <ogra_> that used to be below or around 1sec ... now it is rather 2-3 sec
[12:18] <ogra_> for me at least
[12:19] <seb128> on what device?
[12:19] <seb128> no such issue on my bq
[12:19] <ogra_> seb128, most noticeable on arale but bq as well ... just not as long
[12:19] <ogra_> it used to be fine a while ago ... but recently got worse
[12:20]  * ogra_ cant nail it to a particular image version sadly
[12:21] <dobey> mandel: ugh, you broke ABI but aren't bumping the so version?!
[12:21]  * popey has no update to his bq e.45
[12:23] <ogra_> popey, system-image-dbus can take 20-30 min to time out
[12:23]  * popey reboots :)
[12:25]  * sil2100 away to prepare lunch
[12:25] <dobey> ugh and it's a 5 month old silo with the main MP still not approved
[12:25]  * ogra_ gets an rc-propoased update on arale
[12:26] <ogra_> dobey, like a good wine :)
[12:27] <dobey> ogra_: no such thing. and whisky needs a lot more time :)
[12:27] <ogra_> true
[12:28] <ogra_> so let it be for another 8 years :)
[12:28] <jibel> davmor2, sil2100 only 6 preferred apps on arale rc-proposed 63, is it expected?
[12:28] <dobey> but the really good ones are like $5000
[12:28] <ogra_> dobey, well, perhaps that is what mandel is after with that silo :)
[12:29] <dobey> ogra_: well, then i guess we'll have to wait another 30 years to land it ;)
[12:29] <ogra_> but by then it will have become really tasty at least :)
[12:30] <dobey> and we'll be deep into world war III wand won't care about it :)
[12:31] <ogra_> nah we'll be past wars by then
[12:32] <popey> \o/ OTA-5 installed on my retail bq
[12:32] <popey> nice work everyone
[12:32] <sil2100> jibel: the custom hooks didn't land there yet
[12:32] <sil2100> Next image should be fine
[12:32] <dobey> ogra_: then we'll be dead, so still won't care :)
[12:32] <sil2100> (no new rootfs)
[12:33] <jibel> sil2100, okay, thanks. I wasn't sure it landed at the same time than the tarball or not.
[13:04] <boiko> sil2100: hi, so I know silo assignment is now self-service, but is it also the case for source landings?
[13:07] <sil2100> boiko: well, assignment of source landings is self-service, but you still need someone with rights to upload the source package
[13:07] <sil2100> (core-dev or trainguard)
[13:09] <boiko> sil2100: ah ok, thanks, so could you please copy the source deb from this PPA to silo 57: https://launchpad.net/~boiko/+archive/ubuntu/source-uploads
[13:20] <sil2100> boiko: sure, will do in a moment
[13:20] <boiko> sil2100: thanks!
[13:31] <ogra_> sil2100, err
[13:31] <ogra_> i just got an update on my arale and now my favorites reverted to 6
[13:31] <ogra_> i had 8 for the last week or longer
[13:32] <ogra_> jibel, davmor2 ^^
[13:32] <ogra_> that looks like a regression
[13:32] <davmor2> ogra_: you should have 8 I did
[13:33] <ogra_> i used to have 8 for the last 7-10 days
[13:33] <ogra_> the last two just vanished with this recent upgrade
[13:33] <davmor2> ogra_: how it only just landed
[13:33] <ogra_> (there were definitely 8 before reboot, i used the gallery from there right before updating)
[13:33] <davmor2> ogra_: what channel are you on
[13:33] <ogra_> rc-proposed
[13:34] <ogra_> which i assume just got the same new custom tarball
[13:34] <davmor2> ogra_: oh that is because the tarball is in but the hooks package isn't
[13:34] <davmor2> ogra_: next image will fix it
[13:34] <sil2100> ogra_: oh, don't worry, that's normal...
[13:34] <ogra_> ah, so it will switch back to 8 with next rootfs ?
[13:34] <ogra_> ok
[13:34] <sil2100> Yeah, should
[13:34] <ogra_> phew
[13:34] <sil2100> ;)
[13:34] <davmor2> ogra_: I thought you meant on the stable channel you git ;)
[13:35]  * ogra_ was a bit shocked ... last minute regression... yadda yadda ...
[13:38] <jibel> ogra_, the debconf db is precompiled now in the custom tarball and the new hooks package uses the new path, so you need both to really fix the fav apps
[13:39] <ogra_> uh, debconf ?
[13:39] <jibel> dconf*
[13:39] <ogra_> why would we use it at all
[13:39] <jibel> sorry
[13:39] <ogra_> ah
[13:39] <ogra_> k
[13:39] <sil2100> rc-proposed is ment to be broken! I vote for renaming rc-proposed to rc-breakage
[13:40] <ogra_> it wasnt til last week :P
[13:40]  * ogra_ wishes the telegram breakage would also quieten the telegram notifications
[13:44] <davmor2> ogra_: you can disable the notifications per channel :P
[13:44] <ogra_> davmor2, if you can start the app, yeah :P
[13:44] <ogra_> (telegram doesnt work anymore on -proposed)
[13:45] <davmor2> ogra_: or turn them off in system-settings
[13:45] <davmor2> ogra_: then you can turn them back on when it is fixed
[13:45] <ogra_> yeah, i could do that i suppose
[13:46] <davmor2> ogra_: you're welcome :)
[13:47] <ogra_> :D
[13:48] <balloons> josepht, good morning! When do you expect the changes to sudoku-app-ci to land today?
[13:48] <josepht> balloons: within the next hour or so.
[13:48] <balloons> awesome, ty
[13:49] <josepht> balloons: np
[13:57] <sil2100> boiko: uploaded
[13:58] <boiko> sil2100: thanks!
[14:22] <sil2100> Ok, landing the customization hooks
[14:27] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2, rvr, robru: any objections for cancelling the evening meeting?
[14:27] <sil2100> I need to jump out to the vet and I don't know if I'll make it on time
[14:28] <davmor2> sil2100: what did you do to the cat
[14:28] <sil2100> It's either running around like crazy in the appartment or sleeping
[14:28] <sil2100> Currently sleeping
[14:46] <sil2100> brb
[14:46] <josepht> balloons: the sudoku-app utopic jobs should now be disabled
[14:47] <balloons> josepht, thanks. I still see it as a downstream project on the job though
[14:48] <josepht> balloons: sorry, I forgot to click the build linke, should be done in a few minutes
[14:48] <balloons> sudoku-app-utopic-amd64-ci and the link to generic-mediumtests-utopic should be going away yes?
[14:49] <josepht> balloons: I believe so
[15:15] <balloons> josepht, ohh, don't forget about the -autolanding portion too :-)
[15:18] <josepht> balloons: you should be all set now
[15:27] <balloons> jobs look good
[15:27]  * balloons fires a build
[15:45] <karni> ping trainguards - I've added Telegram to CI Train sheet. Telegram is completely broken on rc-proposed, because the old thumbnailer that we dynamically linked with, has been removed from the image. I would politely ask to prioritize if possible, as this affects a number of users/developers on rc-proposed.
[15:59] <robru> karni: I don't see anything in the spreadsheet?
[16:00] <karni> robru: last row
[16:00] <karni> robru: row 50
[16:00] <robru> karni: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LiPHq39XvPaTQoE8vmi-dqSVMTGGLfCh7bFY01BcNNk/edit#gid=0 last row is 81 and isn't your thing
[16:01] <karni> robru: tarballs and clicks sheet
[16:01] <karni> robru: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LiPHq39XvPaTQoE8vmi-dqSVMTGGLfCh7bFY01BcNNk/edit#gid=50
[16:02] <karni> robru: sorry I wasn't specific
[16:03] <robru> karni: I guess you need QA then. jibel ^
[16:03] <karni> yes, thank you
[16:13] <jibel> karni, did you test it already, is it ready for verification by someone in QA?
[16:13] <karni> jibel: yes
[16:13] <karni> jibel: 3 people tested this change
[16:14] <karni> jibel: If you're on rc-proposed, it would make it easy to test the fix. If not, you could temporarily move /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/thumbnailer/vs-thumb to vs-thumb.old, and confirm thumbnail generation still works in Telegram for sent videos.
[16:15]  * karni goes link the branch with the appropriate bug
[16:16] <karni> done. jibel, here I describe how I tested it. I also had 2 other people confirm. https://code.launchpad.net/~libqtelegram-team/libqtelegram/app-bundle-thumbnailer/+merge/265260
[16:16] <jibel> karni, that's fine it should be alright. Which part of telegram uses thumbnails?
[16:17] <karni> jibel: sent videos ;) like I mentioned just above :)
[16:17] <jibel> just sent videos?
[16:17] <karni> jibel: yessir
[16:17] <jibel> ok
[16:17] <karni> :)
[16:27] <rvr> dobey: alecu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/1476319
[16:27] <slangasek> robru, sil2100: I'm afraid I have a conflict today for our call; would you be ok to move it a half hour later, or should we skip?
[16:28] <robru> slangasek: I'm ok to skip; just working with IS and nothing really to report
[16:30] <sil2100> I'm ok to skip as well
[16:49] <boiko> kenvandine: do you by chance have some time to look into the packaging changes on silo 57?
[16:49] <dobey> rvr: that is the dash
[16:50] <rvr> dobey: Sorry. Which project is that?
[16:50] <dobey> rvr: unity8
[16:50] <dobey> there's already a bug or two open on it even
[16:50] <rvr> dobey: Ok
[16:53] <kenvandine> boiko, sure
[16:53] <boiko> kenvandine: thanks!
[16:53] <dobey> i thought so, but i can't find it now. i know i moved a bug about that over to unity8 recently
[16:54] <dobey> oh, no
[16:54] <dobey> that's a different bug than the previous one i moved, ok
[16:56] <kenvandine> boiko, ack on silo 57
[16:56] <boiko> kenvandine: great! thanks!
[16:56] <kenvandine> np
[16:56] <boiko> kenvandine: do I need to tell the trainguards I got an ack, or do you mark a flag there or something like that?
[16:56] <kenvandine> tell them
[16:57] <boiko> trainguards: hey, kenvandine gave his ack on the packaging changes on silo 57, could you please go ahead and publish it?
[16:57] <boiko> kenvandine: thanks!
[16:57] <sil2100> boiko: sure
[17:08] <doko> infinity, can you setup additional transition trackers for the silo16?
[17:09] <doko> for now, it would be icu, boost1.57 and apt
[17:12] <rvr> boiko: Silo 30 approved
[17:12] <boiko> rvr: nice! thanks!
[17:13] <boiko> rvr: I know you have a queue, but silo 43 is a really trivial one (just testing that one string shows translated in messaging-app), so in case you are looking for a break from long testplans, that's a good candidate :)
[17:14] <rvr> boiko: EOD here :)
[17:14] <rvr> boiko: Buy maybe tomorrow
[17:15] <boiko> rvr: no worries, enjoy your evening!
[17:15] <rvr> Thanks :)
[17:37] <infinity> doko: silo-016 is just represented in the main transition tracker, it's not a seperate instance.  So, if you just commit ben files to the tracker, they'll DTRT.
[17:38] <balloons> fginther, fyi all the -ci jobs are cloned on jenkaas now, I'm just going through and resolving the build errors
[17:41] <mandel> dobey, around?
[17:42] <dobey> hi
[17:42] <infinity> doko: Oh, I realised you didn't commnit the last one, Colin did for you.  So, yeah, if you get me the right configs and either propose an MP to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-transition-trackers/ubuntu-transition-tracker/configs or just give me the files raw, I can commit them.  Or, if you'd rather be added to the team to do it yourself, we can do that.
[17:44] <dobey> mandel: you cannot do an ubuntu/dual landing for unity-scope-click
[17:45] <mandel> dobey, really? how come?
[17:45] <mandel> dobey, does that mean that we will have a diff scope in the overlay ppa? is that what we want?
[17:45] <dobey> mandel: we maintain separate branches for wily and vivid landings.
[17:45] <mandel> ack
[17:45] <dobey> mandel: yes, because we develop features in the development release, not the stable tree
[17:45] <mandel> sil2100, so... that ppa cannot be a double one, sigh :-/
[17:46] <dobey> there are also lots of other things different in wily, from what's in vivid
[17:46] <dobey> dual landings is going to be pretty much impossible in 2 weeks anyway
[17:51] <bfiller> robru: can I get a silo for line 80 please?
[17:56] <boiko> bfiller: according to robru silo assignment is now self-service, so you just select the row, Landing Tools -> Assign/Reconfigure
[17:56] <bfiller> boiko: ok cool, didn't know that
[17:57] <boiko> bfiller: yep, I have been using it for a few days already
[17:57] <robru> bfiller: yeah it's a recent thing. there'll be a larger announcement about this when the spreadsheet replacement goes live (any. day. now...)
[18:02] <kyrofa> trainguards: My silo has passed its test plan, and I'm ready to put a "yes" into column K. However, it's destined for Ubuntu Personal which does not have an official release image yet. Will "Yes (#1 Ubuntu Personal kyrofa)" break things?
[18:03] <boiko> robru: so, now sync doesn't work for non-train generated versions, right? should I ust change the silo to be a source land to vivid too? (regarding silo 54)
[18:03] <fginther> balloons, cool.  Have you tested any of the .click artifacts?
[18:03] <balloons> fginther, no, but I should do so for the ones that built. lol, thanks for the reminder :-)
[18:04] <robru> kyrofa: won't break anything... the train has no ability to push packages to anything other than ubuntu though, so you'll have to get your packages manually copied from the PPA I guess.
[18:04] <robru> boiko: did that start as a manual upload to wily?
[18:05] <boiko> robru: yep
[18:05] <boiko> robru: well, not manual, a source landing via train
[18:05] <robru> boiko: righ
[18:05] <kyrofa> robru, I actually want it to land in wily-- Ubuntu Personal is currently only a seed
[18:05] <kyrofa> robru, is that okay?
[18:05] <robru> boiko: yeah you'll have to do another source landing for vivid then. if you'd faked the train-style version number it could have done a sync for you.
[18:05] <robru> kyrofa: just put 'yes' in column K
[18:06] <kyrofa> robru, well that's easy!
[18:06] <robru> kyrofa: ok what's going on? is this the one that's never been released in wily before?
[18:06] <sil2100> cwayne1: ping!
[18:06] <boiko> robru: ok, no problems, let me cook a vivid package and then I put it on a ppa for you to copy to the silo
[18:06] <robru> boiko: ok
[18:06] <kyrofa> robru, that's correct
[18:06] <sil2100> cwayne1: could you add ci-train-bot to the https://launchpad.net/~savilerow-team/ team?
[18:07] <sil2100> cwayne1: the train was unable to merge the branch in...
[18:07] <robru> kyrofa: and you're ready to publish? you tested the packages in the PPA and they look good?
[18:07] <kyrofa> robru, the failure is only due to a lack of depends on a few archs. The issues are ignorable and should get better after the initial publish
[18:07] <kyrofa> robru, yessir!
[18:07] <robru> kyrofa: ok, will publish
[18:08] <kyrofa> Thanks robru :)
[18:08] <robru> kyrofa: you're welcome
[18:08] <kyrofa> robru, and that will merge the relevant branches into trunk as well and update the status of the MPs?
[18:08] <robru> kyrofa: what happened with your packaging? I know we were talking about that last week. aside from me/steve did anybody else look at that?
[18:09] <kyrofa> robru, changing to quilt solved all my problems
[18:09] <robru> kyrofa: right but did you get any blessing from any official people?
[18:10] <kyrofa> robru, well, I guess not. Like who?
[18:11] <robru> kyrofa: ultimately it needs an archive admin to do a NEW review, hang on
[18:11] <kyrofa> robru, ah, that makes sense-- brand new package and all
[18:14] <robru> kyrofa: ok it's publishing, it'll sit in the NEW queue for a bit, I just asked in #ubuntu-release if they can review it, we'll see if there's any takers. Maybe ping there again if nothing happens after a few hours
[18:15] <kyrofa> robru, on freenode?
[18:15] <robru> kyrofa: yeah
[18:15] <kyrofa> robru, great, thank you!
[18:15] <robru> kyrofa: you're welcome
[18:17] <balloons> fginther, clicks work. I heard rumblings about tarmac the other day in regards to having jenkins respond to mp's. Are you planning to provide some more example jobs
[18:27] <fginther> balloons, that's one of the questions we're planning on addressing this week.
[18:27] <boiko> robru: can you please copy the source deb from this PPA to silo 54? https://launchpad.net/~boiko/+archive/ubuntu/source-uploads/+packages
[18:28] <robru> boiko: one sec
[18:28] <boiko> robru: sure, take your time
[18:29] <balloons> fginther, ack. Something else that came across my mind in regards to sustainability. Can we setup the jobs to pull from an lp source?
[18:30] <robru> boiko: ah, apparently I can't copy the binaries until after the binaries finish publishing. will be a few minutes then.
[18:30] <balloons> fginther, I mean, pull the job definitions ofc, not code :-)
[18:32] <boiko> robru: ok
[18:32] <fginther> balloons, do you mean store the job configurations in a LP branch? For saving and restoring?
[18:33] <balloons> fginther, yes. In theory that could allow others to easily suggest tweaks to job configs, etc
[18:35] <dobey> hrmm?
[18:36]  * dobey sees "tarmac" and raises a brow
[18:37] <robru> boiko: ok, started a "build": https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-054-1-build/4/console
[18:37] <boiko> robru: thanks! on a different matter, silo 30 is ready to publish whenever you get some time
[18:37] <robru> boiko: oh,s ure
[18:38] <fginther> balloons, We're not providing any pre-package method for doing this, but it can be done. I would recommend something like python-jenkins as the interface for a simple script to read and write job configuration data from a branch
[18:38] <balloons> fginther, noted. I'll look into it
[18:44] <jgdx> the qa signoffs "ready for testing" column, is that an ordered queue?
[18:46] <robru> jgdx: maybe? they track it at https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu/qa-testing-requests-for-questions-ping-eu-jibel-us-jfunk-or-ubuntu-qa-on-ubuntu-ci-eng
[18:49] <jgdx> robru, okay
[19:04] <robru> boiko: no qa on 54?
[19:05] <boiko> robru: it is just a missing dependency on the dev package
[19:05] <boiko> robru: so I guess it is not worth spending the precious time of QA on that, right?
[19:06] <robru> boiko: oh, is it really so trivial? ok then, will publish
[19:06] <robru> boiko: lel https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-054-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/libphonenumber_content.diff/*view*/
[19:06] <boiko> robru: you can check the diff to confirm, but it is basically that the  dev package should require libprotobuf-dev
[19:36] <kyrofa> robru, should I ping anyone specific in #ubuntu-release, or just ask in general?
[19:37] <robru> kyrofa: ask in general I guess, those guys are usually pretty busy and I've seen them get fussy about being pinged by name
[19:37] <kyrofa> robru, soudns good
[19:46] <charles> woo
[19:50] <robru> brb
[21:18] <veebers> trainguards, Do I need anything to trigger another publish attempt for my silo (051) failed earlier due to MP not being approved
[21:28] <robru> veebers: ah crap i stepped out, just on phone now. Will be a couple hours as in at the doctor's
[21:28] <robru> veebers: maybe kenvandine is around to hit publish?
[21:31] <veebers> robru: ack, if he's not I can wait for you. Hope all is well :-)
[21:32] <robru> veebers: yeah I'm OK just a checkup, thanks. I'll probably be 3 or 4 hours though.
[22:00] <robru> veebers: ah, that was way faster than I thought ;-)
[22:01] <veebers> robru: ^_^
[22:01] <veebers> I guess a quick checkup is a good checkup
[22:05] <robru> bzoltan_: zbenjamin: need this top-approved: https://code.launchpad.net/~zeller-benjamin/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/mzanettis_switches/+merge/264168
[22:05] <robru> veebers: indeed! all good news
[22:05] <bzoltan_> robru:  done, thanks
[22:49] <robru> cihelp: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?q=ubuntu%2Flanding-004 did anybody look at these boottest regressions yet?
[22:52] <fginther> robru, ah, these are all part of the same landing... These all fail. In the ones I've looked at more closely, there's an unity-system-compositor crash
[22:52] <robru> fginther: oh wow, so it's a legit failure and not just flakiness?
[22:52] <fginther> robru, I thought something else was going on, but didn't realize these were all connected
[22:53] <fginther> robru, yes, I've been able to reproduce locally and look at the symptoms. unity8 does not come up
[22:54] <fginther> robru, I have to run to dinner, but will be online later if you have more questions
[22:55] <robru> fginther: no worries, thanks
[22:55] <robru> anpok: are you aware of this ^^ ? seems silo 4 is broken
[23:03] <slangasek> fginther: hi, I notice your name on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/wily-boottest-bind9/lastBuild/console - are you actively debugging boottest stuff? infinity just noticed it was broken and blocking things
[23:07] <infinity> slangasek: Read a few lines up from your ping, he seems to think all the failures are a legit unity8 bug.
[23:09] <slangasek> infinity: that appears to be referring to a landing; not clear to me that he's talking about a problem with something in the archive
[23:10] <robru> slangasek: that landing is stuck in proposed due to bootest failures...


[02:10] <Yakov> is Ubuntu 22 more resource consuming then Ubuntu 20?
[02:12] <rbox> well it depends on what you are running
[02:12] <rbox> and what resources you are talking about
[02:12] <Yakov> in generall
[02:12] <Yakov> I have same computer
[02:12] <Yakov> and app using cpu and ram
[02:12] <Yakov> sometimes a lot
[02:12] <oerheks> maybe a browser does consume more...
[02:13] <oerheks> then again same browser on 20 too
[02:15] <rbox> what app is using a lot
[02:15] <oerheks> or maybe the latest intel - AMD leaks cause this
[04:39] <Metamorphosis> Dear all, how much swap is suggested for someone with 6gb ram (mind you I have a 1tb hdd)
[04:48] <Bashing-om> Metamorphosis: Rule of thumb is twice the ram and a bit more --- say 14 Gigs for swap for hybernation purposes.
[05:11] <oerheks> Metamorphosis, isTriskel Linux still a ting?
[06:29] <pi___> how to install usb driver for lubuntu
[06:55] <ubuntu> hello world
[08:45] <aiena_> I had seen  blogpost where one could use "ip maddr" to view multicast groups but i cannot find this feature in the ip command how do I view the multicast groups
[08:49] <tomreyn> aiena_: ip of iproute2 6.10 provides this feature
[08:52] <tomreyn> on oveeeery old ubuntu versions (which are likely out of support), you'd use "ipmaddr" (single word) instead.
[08:52] <tomreyn> (which would be part of net-tools there, not part of iproute2)
[08:57] <tomreyn> ubuntu 20.04's iproute2 5.5.0 provides this feature, too: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man8/ip-maddress.8.html
[09:13] <BCB>  I just upgraded to PHP 8.1.2-1ubuntu2.14 on "Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS" and php include_path is no longer reading my include_path set by php_admin_value set inside of Apache/2.4.52  IfModule php_module set inside of a <VirtualHost>.  php INfO Local_Value for include_path is still showing the default include path set in php.ini.  Any suggestions on how to set a virtual host specific include  path?
[09:13] <BCB> Thank  you.
[09:25] <ravage> https://php.watch/versions/8.0/mod_php-rename
[09:26] <ravage> what version did you use before?
[09:26] <ravage> does it work if you remove the if?
[09:27] <BCB> ravagei was previously using Apache 2.0 Handler and it all worked
[09:27] <BCB> ravage was previously using Apache 2.0 Handler and it all worked
[09:28] <BCB> ravage the "release-upgrade" was a little rockey and required may workarounds
[09:28] <BCB> ravage server seems to be working fine.  It just can not fine my php_include paths and page loads fail
[09:29] <BCB> ravage Maybe I should just switch back to Apache 2.0 Handler
[09:30] <BCB> (This is way I HATE doing release upgrades.  it ALWAYS bonks my server.  :-(
[11:07] <BCB> what version of PHP does ubuntu install on release-upgrade to "Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS"
[11:07] <BCB> ?
[11:20] <throwthecheese> How do I fix mouse lag on a Mir test server?
[11:21] <throwthecheese> I managed to get Lomiri up and running but I can't get past the configuration screen due to cursor lag on the test server
[11:25] <throwthecheese> Is there any way to fix cursor movement? (Specs: Ubuntu 22.04 on a VM, Mir installed from official repos)
[11:43] <oerheks> BCB,
[11:43] <oerheks> !info php jammy
[11:44] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/php/+packages
[12:02] <Yakov74> how to make iso file for my current OS version? What it can include what can not?
[12:03] <Yakov74> I'm having Qt, sublime, some c++ libraries some folders need to be on some static place, I need to make bootable ISO with my Ubuntu 22
[12:04] <tomreyn> just boot using the desktop installer / live iso and chroot into your persistent installation
[12:25] <Yakov74> tomreyn, can you please share some decent step by step guide
[12:39] <elias_a> Yakov74: Are you joking?
[12:39] <Yakov74> with woman, sometimes, rarely
[12:39] <Yakov74> why? :)
[12:41] <elias_a> Yakov74: chrooting is quite simple. Do you have problems with that?
[12:41] <oerheks> looking at QT, you should start with Kubuntu, no?
[12:50] <oerheks> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/02/cubic-is-a-custom-ubuntu-iso-creator and some screenshots https://github.com/PJ-Singh-001/Cubic
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:44] <BCB> !info php jammy
[13:51] <tomreyn> Yakov74: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1311905/how-to-fix-one-existing-ubuntu-installation-from-another#answers https://superuser.com/questions/111152/whats-the-proper-way-to-prepare-chroot-to-recover-a-broken-linux-installation#answers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure
[15:01] <Guest970> hi
[15:01] <tomreyn> hi root
[15:02] <nejad> teste
[15:02] <nejad> teste 2222
[15:02] <tomreyn> nejad: /join #tests
[15:03] <tomreyn> Guest970: you, too
[15:03] <Guest970> hi nejad
[15:04] <Guest970> nejad: humm?
[15:16] <NOS9992> shit
[15:16] <NOS9992> heello'
[15:16] <NOS9992> i got a gmrs lise
[15:20] <NOS9992> NIIGGER
[15:20] <NOS9992> NIGGER
[15:20] <ravage> tomreyn: would you? :)
[15:20] <coconut> !op | tomreyn
[15:21] <ravage> thx
[15:22] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[16:25] <Yakov> so i use cubic I can do what? can I make ubuntu installer and my current desktop state?
[16:27] <tomreyn> Yakov: no package named "cubic" exists in ubuntu.
[16:28] <Yakov> I need to make snapshot of my current OS including all dependencies and libraries and some specified folders
[16:29] <Yakov> should I use cubic to make iso or this is diffent?
[16:31] <en11gma> is there a way to make a ubuntu live cd (no hard drive for this part) that has the amdgpu driver pre-installed so upon boot i can run hashcat with gpu acceleration
[16:32] <tomreyn> amdgpu is in the kernel, so any ubuntu live iso supports it
[16:32] <tomreyn> maybe you're referring to the proprietary -pro overlay?
[16:32] <alkisg> en11gma: you can also just install ubuntu to a usb stick. Or do you need "live" instead of "usb stick" for some reason?
[16:34] <tomreyn> or, better yet, a portable ssd
[16:34] <en11gma> live
[16:34] <en11gma> nope thats not my question
[16:34] <en11gma> my question is can i be in a gpu accelerated enviroment from a ubuntu live enviroment
[16:35] <en11gma> modify the ubuntu live iso?
[16:35] <en11gma> or mane a new custom ubuntu live iso?
[16:36] <tomreyn> if you have suitable hardware, the ubuntu live system should run with gpu acceleration (but not gpu compute) out of the box
[16:36] <tomreyn> that's for amdgpu
[16:36] <en11gma> so amdgpu will accelerate hashcat or does that use gpu compute?
[16:36] <en11gma> let me google 1 sec
[16:37] <tomreyn> good plan!
[16:42] <en11gma> does ubuntu use the amdgpu driver upon boot?
[16:42] <en11gma> "ubuntu live"
[16:48] <tomreyn> en11gma: i expect it to. do you see otherwise?
[16:53] <en11gma> im going to make a new daily iso and reboot. thanks
[18:13] <en11gma> im booted up into ubuntu live. my 6900xt isnt working with gpu acceleration with hashcat. i installed the rocm modeuls and hashcat but its not working.
[18:14] <en11gma> am i on the correct driver? someone said amdgpu should work like this but im not sure if im even using amdgpu
[19:10] <en11gma> im booted up into ubuntu live. my 6900xt isnt working with gpu acceleration with hashcat. i installed the rocm modeuls and hashcat but its not working.
[19:16] <jhutchins> I would expect that any OS running off of a USB device would not have the full performance of a hard installation to a SATA drive.
[19:17] <jhutchins> en11gma: What do you plan to use the system for? Why live instead of installed?
[19:17] <en11gma> please. im so far passed that.
[19:18] <en11gma> same performance.
[19:41] <elias_a> What an odd discussion...
[19:45] <oerheks> that card needs amdgpu-pro .. and reboot?
[19:45] <oerheks> good luck with live mode, en11gma
[19:46] <en11gma> still trying. i joined #hashcat and see if they can help too
[20:42] <ash_m> anyone around that could help me figure out why my console and thunderbird end up behind the launcher after waking up my laptop?
[20:59] <jhutchins> ash_m: This isn't really a 1:1 thing, post your problem and see who responds.
[20:59] <jhutchins> ash_m: It would probably help if you confirmed which release you're on, and that it's the default Gnome desktop.
[21:31] <ash_m> jhutchins: (or anyone) sorry, yeah, that's what I've been doing; someone prompted me that "lotus" would be able to help, so I thought maybe I'd ask the way I did, but yeah, I have journal output, I'm on 22.04, stock DE, and it basically looks like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1433479/maximized-windows-become-maximized-behind-launcher -- journal:
[21:31] <ash_m> https://gist.github.com/ash-m/c18206d0d4249cf457bd760533a2eb53
[21:38] <oerheks> ash_m, this is an ugly bug, linux wide, systemd .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/1917939
[21:38] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1917939 in Mutter "Windows maximise underneath dock after monitor sleep" [Unknown, New]
[21:40] <oerheks> from https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/issues/1370 / https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1627
[21:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1370 in micheleg/dash-to-dock "maximized windows resize to full screen and get cut off by dock" [Open]
[21:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1627 in GNOME/mutter "Wayland: maximized windows extend under panels after screen blanking" [Opened]
[21:41] <jhutchins> Is switching to X a solution?
[21:43] <Zumo> Hello all, I'm having some weird issue with routing the table in my Wi-Fi dev. I'm trying to connect to a different network and every time I need to add route for it work. Is there a way to save as a static tried via GUI didn't work.
[21:44] <Zumo> xxx@xxx-ubuntu:~$ ip r s
[21:44] <Zumo> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlo1 proto dhcp metric 600
[21:44] <Zumo> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev br0 proto static metric 20100 linkdown
[21:44] <Zumo> <IP_ADDRESS>/16 dev br0 scope link metric 1000 linkdown
[21:44] <Zumo> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev br0 proto kernel scope link src <IP_ADDRESS> metric 425 linkdown
[21:44] <Zumo> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev wlo1 proto kernel scope link src <IP_ADDRESS> metric 600
[21:48] <Zumo> https://dpaste.com/3DR3RHWUL
[21:48] <Zumo> sory for the huge paste
[21:51] <jhutchins> Zumo: I haven't worked with routing tables for a while, but I don't think you're supposed to have two "default" entries.
[21:52] <jhutchins> Zumo: What entry are you adding manually?
[21:52] <jhutchins> Zumo: Also how are you adding it?
[21:53] <Zumo> one if for the vagrant it creates automatically, the other is the normal default to access the internet if I delete default bridge it will still not work.
[21:53] <Zumo> sudo ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlo1
[21:56] <jhutchins> Zumo: Could be a vagrant thing.
[21:57] <Zumo> I can try and uninstall it
[22:07] <Zumo> vagrant is uninstalled but the bridge still shows after deleting it
[22:08] <Zumo> and restarting the network :/
[22:09] <sarnold> "restarting the network"? what's that?
[22:16] <aiena_> tomreyn, thanks
[22:33] <Zumo> sarnold nmcli networking off/on
[22:33] <sarnold> ah. does NM do anything with bridges?
[22:36] <leftyfb> not if you didn't create the bridge with NM
[22:36] <Zumo> https://dpaste.com/C3DVRH3K2
[22:37] <sarnold> oh now that's interesting
[22:38] <leftyfb> Zumo: how did you create the bridge?
[22:39] <Zumo> I installed vagrant for testing purposes
[22:39] <Zumo> since I didn't needed it anymore I removed it
[22:39] <leftyfb> Zumo: what commands did you type in to create the bridge?
[22:39] <Zumo> it was created automatically when I installed vagrant
[22:39] <sarnold> maybe vagrant dropped config files, try find /etc/NetworkManager/
[22:40] <leftyfb> unlikely
[22:40] <leftyfb> vagrant doesn't care about GUI applications
[22:40] <sarnold> oh
[22:40] <leftyfb> Zumo: sudo grep -R br0 /etc/netplan
[22:41] <Zumo> "/etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml:    br0:"
[22:41] <leftyfb> there you go
[22:42] <Zumo> so should delete everything related to br0 or at least comment in that file?
[22:42] <leftyfb> Zumo: if you're just using Network Manager as part of your desktop GUI, then you probably aren't using anything in netplan. You can probably delete (or mv) that file
[22:45] <Zumo> still here
[22:46] <leftyfb> Zumo: sudo ip link del br0
[22:48] <Zumo> https://dpaste.com/CUFC3LQ3J
[22:48] <leftyfb> Zumo: reboot
[22:49] <Zumo> brb
[22:51] <Zumo> well that worked
[22:52] <Zumo> also fixed the routing table issue
[22:52] <Zumo> thanks all
[22:54] <sarnold> !cookie | leftyfb
[22:55] <Zumo> !cookie | leftyfb
[22:57] <Your_Dog> !cookie Your_Dog
[22:57] <leftyfb> !bot
[22:57] <Your_Dog> sadge
[22:57] <leftyfb> lets leave the bot alone please
[23:37] <Randolf> Is it possible to set multiple bookmarks in the File Manager?
[23:38] <Randolf> On Debian I had about half a dozen set up, but Ubuntu's File Manager only shows the first one I added.
[23:39] <Randolf> Also, how can I turn on the image preview on the right-hand size?
[23:39] <Randolf> s/size/side/
[23:54] <leftyfb> Randy_: yes, you just drag and drop another directory to the sie
[23:54] <leftyfb> side*


[01:00] <RoyK> heh
[06:20] <Lord255> hi all. i have checked the serverguide in the topic for 12.04, but is there a step-by-step guide for a mailserver (pf,pfadmin,mysql,virus+spam filter..etc.)? i know that there are some on the net but i'm curious which one you say "the best".
[08:46] <Calrik> hi all I just after some advice Im not sure if I should run vmware-esx and run my ubuntu server in that with other vm's such as a windows xp client or run ubuntu server natively then use virtual box or something like that for the windows guest?
[17:11] <Kihokki> Hi there! It seems that I made a mistake when I created a user in my server and now I'm unable to use sudo on created user
[17:12] <Kihokki> When I type sudo, it gives me this "sudo: must be setuid root
[17:12] <Kihokki> "
[17:13] <ikonia> Kihokki: that's nothing to do with creating a user
[17:13] <ikonia> Kihokki: that's you changing the permissions on the sudo binary
[17:15] <Kihokki> ikonia, So, what should I do?
[17:16] <ikonia> put setuid on the sudo binary
[17:23] <Kihokki> ikonia, Well, how to do that?
[17:24] <ikonia> Kihokki: how did you remove it ?
[17:24] <ikonia> Kihokki: what happened to your machine
[17:24] <Kihokki> ikonia, I only created a user with adduser
[17:24] <ikonia> that can't be the case.
[17:25] <ikonia> Kihokki: can you do "ls -la /usr/bin/sudo" please
[17:25] <ikonia> (and show me the output)
[17:25] <Kihokki> root@southpole:~# ls -la /usr/bin/sudo
[17:25] <Kihokki> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 69708 Jun  1  2012 /usr/bin/sudo
[17:26] <ikonia> Kihokki: that's really wrong, someone has changed permissions on it
[17:26] <ikonia> Kihokki: adduser would not do that
[17:26] <Kihokki> ikonia, should I do it on the created user?
[17:26] <ikonia> Kihokki: do what ?
[17:27] <Kihokki> Nothing, I just checked if it gives same output on the created user
[17:27] <Kihokki> and it does
[17:27] <RoyK> Kihokki: reboot into single user mode
[17:27] <ikonia> it will do, the binary has teh wrong permissions
[17:27] <ikonia> RoyK: 1 moment please
[17:27] <ikonia> Kihokki: can you show me the ouptut of "uname -a" please
[17:28] <ikonia> lets find out if this is a standard ubuntu build, or one of these modified vps provider ones
[17:28] <RoyK> Kihokki: and lsb_release -a
[17:28] <ikonia> see if something has gone wrong, or if it's designed like that
[17:28] <Kihokki> root@southpole:~# uname -a
[17:28] <Kihokki> Linux southpole 2.6.32-042stab068.8 #1 SMP Fri Dec 7 17:06:14 MSK 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[17:28] <ikonia> RoyK: sadly that doesn't always show it
[17:28] <ikonia> yes
[17:28] <ikonia> vps
[17:29] <ikonia> Kihokki: ok - I don't think we should change anything on this, I think you should talk to your vps provider
[17:29] <ikonia> Kihokki: explain the problem and that sudo is missing setuid
[17:29] <Kihokki> ikonia, I'll try that, thanks!
[17:29] <ikonia> no problem
[23:21] <tgm4883> Is there someplace to grab older kernels. I'm looking for linux-image-server_<IP_ADDRESS>.58_amd64.deb (along with the headers), but it doesn't seem to be available via apt anymore
[23:48] <TheLordOfTime> tgm4883, what version of Ubuntu are you looking for the kernel for if I may ask?  (I'm curious)
[23:53] <Patrickdk_> that would be 12.04