[04:22] <Mena> Thanks :)
[04:22] <Jucato> Mena: it's a very old and unmaintained edition of Yahoo messenger. it's not really that good afaik
[04:22] <Mena> pjamar, check here #ubuntu-effects
[04:22] <pag> Gamic, thrash:/ can be found at ~/.local/share/Trash/
[04:22] <pjamar> Thanks, Mena
[04:22] <Mena> Jucatom ok
[04:22] <Mena> Jucato, ok
[04:22] <Gamic> thanks pag
[04:23] <Gamic> and that's the trash cleared :)
[04:24] <Kubuntu> It worked, but now the other drive is gone
[04:25] <Mena> Thanks :) Bye
[04:29] <nflava> patrialt: no luck
[04:29] <nflava> but the odd thing
[04:29] <nflava> if i use the live cd in graphics safe mode
[04:29] <nflava> i get a better resolution
[04:29] <patrialt> lol
[04:30] <patrialt> funky
[04:30] <nflava> 4 choices now instead of 2
[04:30] <patrialt> what is your video card?
[04:30] <nflava> hehe atm a voodoo3
[04:30] <patrialt> O_O
[04:30] <patrialt> those things still exist?
[04:30] <nflava> hehe i had one in an old pc
[04:31] <patrialt> lol
[04:31] <nflava> i put  anew rig together but didnt get a pciexpress card yet
[04:31] <patrialt> well i have no idea how you might go about installing drivers for that bugger :P
[04:31] <nflava> ah
[04:31] <yaccin> nflava: AGP ftw :D
[04:31] <nflava> i dont have agp on this board
[04:31] <patrialt> well, both work nicely, for linux you dont really need much more than PCI
[04:31] <nflava> i just need a better resoultion
[04:32] <nflava> cause i dont really game much
[04:32] <patrialt> does your card support a better resolution? lol
[04:32] <nflava> yeah
[04:32] <djilks> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade to feisty, but it keeps crapping out with a gzip error after downloading Packages.gz
[04:32] <patrialt> how many pcs you have?
[04:32] <nflava> 2 but the other is in pieces atm
[04:32] <nflava> and right now i am at 1280x1024
[04:32] <patrialt> agh, was gonna say, stay here on one pc, and reinstall ubuntu on the other pc :P
[04:33] <patrialt> kubuntu*
[04:33] <nflava> i wish i could do that, it would make things better
[04:33] <patrialt> so that command did nothing aye?
[04:33] <nflava> maybe ill have to do that later today
[04:33] <nflava> yeah
[04:33] <patrialt> =\
[04:34] <nflava> so i guess ill just have to reinstall for the 3rd time hehe
[04:34] <nflava> ill have to do it later though, i am about to go landsacping
[04:34] <patrialt> the only other thing i really know to do is reinstall kubuntu, then configure xorg to support 1024x768
[04:34] <nflava> well ill be back in a few hours, my ride is here
[04:34] <nflava> thanks for all the help
[04:34] <patrialt> alright, np, sorry we couldn't get that fixed
[04:37] <don> where can i go to get my Lexmark printer working on 7.04?
[04:39] <don> how can you install directx?
[04:39] <eMonster> you can't
[04:39] <eMonster> this ain't windows
[04:40] <don> I know but I thought it mite bepossible
[04:40] <eMonster> you can emulate with wine
[04:40] <eMonster> if yo uwant games--> windows
[04:40] <don> i got wine working and tried x it tried but no go
[04:41] <jussi01> don what game are you after?
[04:41] <eMonster> cedega is option but it cost $$
[04:41] <don> I have many computers no problem just think kubuntu aught to be able
[04:42] <don> this is a great system and someday i think it will do what windows can
[04:42] <jussi01> don:  there are a lot of games ported to linux already - what are you after?
[04:42] <eMonster> use windows for that
[04:43] <don> I got a bunch of stuff working now
[04:43] <don> ya
[04:43] <don> war games
[04:43] <don> I loaded air conflicts but no Direct x
[04:43] <jussi01> don: like americas army? tremulous? unreal tournament? enemy territory?
[04:44] <don> ya
[04:44] <don> Battleffield2
[04:44] <don> just messing around
[04:45] <don> I cant get printer gooing though
[04:46] <don> lots of people into gaming big = if linux could
[04:46] <llutz> don: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DatabaseIntro
[04:46] <don> thanks
[04:50] <kludge> should i try kubuntu if im happy with gnome? can i install it as an alternate?
[04:51] <LjL> !kde > kludge    (kludge, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:51] <kludge> thanks, will it slow down gnome?
[04:52] <don> I have X1155 Lexmark cant even find it in there site linux either
[04:54] <eMonster> don what do you use linux for
[04:55] <don> To play with
[04:56] <don> I want to know all i can
[04:56] <eMonster> well you can all but directx games.
[04:56] <don> I want windows to have compition
[04:57] <don> ya but I got lots of time
[04:57] <don> I got tv dvd player working now
[04:57] <directeditoincte> Hello, I was wondering if someone answer something. I had a power outage and grub won't boot. An ls /boot shows that /boot/grub is corrupt (all values are '?'). Am I just screwed? I can't remove or replace it.
[04:58] <don> I built a new computer just for this
[05:00] <don> must be somthing you can do
[05:00] <bobstro> directeditoincte: you could try booting a rescue cd, but the fact that the /boot is corrupt is ominous.
[05:01] <don> Try running off disc see what goes
[05:01] <eMonster> directeditoincte: you could also make grub cd or floppy
[05:01] <directeditoincte> By rescue, you mean the install disc?
[05:01] <anku> Hi all
[05:01] <bobstro> directeditoincte: you can use that, or i'm fond of the supergrub boot disc.
[05:02] <directeditoincte> I could put /boot on another drive and boottttttttttttttt from there
[05:02] <directeditoincte> darn broken keyboard
[05:02] <anku> Does anyone know which protocol the "Network folder" menu uses when it mounts SMB shares?
[05:02] <bobstro> directeditoincte: the big question is just how badly damaged your disk is. you may be able to boot a rescue disc, then do an fsck on the broken one.
[05:02] <don> mine is fast too
[05:02] <directeditoincte> fsck didn't complain when I ran iiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[05:03] <bobstro> directeditoincte: your kernel is in /boot so it may not help.
[05:03] <patrialt> lllllllllol
[05:03] <bobstro> directeditoincte: no?
[05:03] <directeditoincte> yeah, it's the only corrupt file I can find
[05:03] <bobstro> directeditoincte: so ONLY the /boot is trashed?
[05:04] <directeditoincte> It's the only one I can find
[05:04] <bobstro> directeditoincte: that's pretty specific corruption if so!
[05:04] <directeditoincte> indeed :(
[05:04] <bobstro> directeditoincte: i suppose you could boot a cd, then rebuild the contents of that directory manually.
[05:05] <bobstro> directeditoincte: or use the cd to backup what's good, then reinstall and restore.
[05:05] <directeditoincte> I can't do anything to /boot/grub, includign remove it, because nothing matches its ? permissions
[05:05] <don> sounds good to me
[05:05] <directeditoincte> I'll try putting grub on another drive.
[05:06] <bobstro> directeditoincte: can you rename /boot, the recreate it?
[05:06] <bobstro> directeditoincte: your entire /boot is gone, right?
[05:06] <bobstro> or just /boot/grub?
[05:06] <benko_> I need help about wpa_supplicant.
[05:06] <directeditoincte> no, just /boot/grub
[05:06] <bobstro> directeditoincte: can you rename it?
[05:06] <benko_> I installed it and it used to work
[05:06] <benko_> now it's not working anymore
[05:06] <directeditoincte> nope, can''t do anything to it
[05:07] <benko_> knetworkmanager does not show me any wlan connection or network
[05:07] <benko_> anyone ideas?
[05:07] <don> thats what boot disc is for right?
[05:07] <bobstro> directeditoincte: can you rename /boot, then copy good contents to a newly created /boot?
[05:08] <directeditoincte> hurray! thanks bobstro, good call, that worked!
[05:08] <bobstro> directeditoincte: ok, good luck!
[05:08] <bobstro> directeditoincte: and make a backup! quick! :)
[05:08] <benko_> no ideas about the wpa_supplicant problem?
[05:09] <bobstro> benko_: well the obvious questions is "did anything change?"
[05:09] <benko_> How can I reset the settings of wpa_supplicant?
[05:09] <bobstro> benko_: i had it working with network manager, but haven't played with it enough to be an expert myself.
[05:09] <benko_> bobstro: si, I changed to WEP for a while.
[05:09] <bobstro> benko_: you're using WPA/PSK?
[05:10] <benko_> Not anymore, cause it's not working anymore
[05:10] <vinicius> hi, folks,I wonder if anybody could help me use kxmame at ubuntu 7.04 for amd64.
[05:10] <benko_> any networkmanager has problems with WPA/WPA2 connections now
[05:11] <directeditoincte> thanks guys, rebooting now, later!
[05:11] <benko_> vinicius: no, sorry.
[05:11] <bobstro> directeditoincte: good job, have fun!
[05:11] <don> i didnt use 64 cause no wine
[05:12] <majnoon> ()*&(*&(*&^ update crashed
[05:13] <vinicius> don, I think wine works, although I don t use it now, at least it used to work when I used fedora core6
[05:13] <jballou> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu on my desktop here, I run it on two other systems with no problems. On my desktop which is way faster than anything else, I get extremely slow video performance from anything (Flash, Xine, Kaffeine, VLC, MPlayer, etc). Tried nv and nvidia driver, using the same xorg.conf that worked just fine in Dapper Drake, but on the fresh install I just get slow slow video
[05:13] <don> It works fine for me now
[05:13] <don> cant install it on 64 amd 7.04
[05:14] <don> thats why i used i386 ver
[05:14] <benko_> How can wpa_supplicant settings be deleted?
[05:14] <vinicius> don, have you tried with synaptic?
[05:14] <benko_> I want to use WPA again :)
[05:15] <don> no whats that?
[05:15] <don> that like wine?
[05:15] <vinicius> a package manager for ubuntu 7.04, no command lines required
[05:15] <patrialt> synaptic is like Adept Package manager, only for gnome
[05:16] <BluesKaj> wpaWPA is more secure than WEP , in most setups
[05:16] <don> tried a lot of wine before it worked
[05:16] <don> cool
[05:16] <don> is it in manager
[05:16] <benko_> BluesKaj: Yes, indeed, but it is not working.
[05:17] <don> ssome things didnot work for me till I rebooted
[05:18] <vinicius> like what, don?
[05:18] <benko_> whois brezel
[05:18] <djilks> like updating
[05:18] <don> radio and dvd ect
[05:19] <don> pluggins
[05:19] <djilks> updating doesn't work, that's for sure.
[05:19] <vinicius> to tell you the truth I still have trouble with such plugins
[05:19] <don> how get synaptic
[05:20] <chijin> !nvidia
[05:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:20] <vinicius> It s already in you system
[05:20] <vinicius> just go to system
[05:20] <don> a lot of stuff i installed did not work then it did after reboot
[05:20] <BluesKaj> !ndsiwrapper
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndsiwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <don> great
[05:21] <don> not in system
[05:21] <BluesKaj> ! WPA
[05:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:21] <don> just Adept
[05:22] <patrialt> !ndiswrapper
[05:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:23] <patrialt> don, adept is the kubuntu equivalent of synaptic
[05:23] <don> Vinicius you got 7.04?
[05:23] <don> ok
[05:23] <vinicius> yes don
[05:24] <BluesKaj> oops, my spelign sucs
[05:24] <don> well Adept work fine for me
[05:24] <patrialt> lol
[05:24] <vinicius> feisty fawn
[05:24] <don> ya
[05:24] <BluesKaj> you can install synaptic thru adept
[05:24] <don> just put it on last night
[05:24] <don> ok
[05:24] <vinicius> synaptic is ok here too
[05:24] <patrialt> after 7.04 there isn't much of a difference between adept and synaptic
[05:24] <benko_> anybody an idea about wpa_supplicant?
[05:25] <benko_> wpa_gui for example doesn't find an adapter.
[05:25] <don> seem good to have a linux i can get my things going on
[05:25] <vinicius> and I didn t see adept here, but synaptic is ok
[05:26] <BluesKaj> vinicius: it's the default pkg manager in feisty
[05:26] <don> I loaded my printer dvrs through wine but it could not find printer
[05:27] <vinicius> yes, don and what I most apreciate at ubuntu is it s easy way to manage with pacages and installing programs
[05:27] <benko_> lol
[05:27] <vinicius> I don t know blueskaj
[05:27] <anon32> don, you can't use Windows drivers in wine... it not work that way
[05:27] <BluesKaj> don, no linux driver?
[05:28] <vinicius> it s easy to set a printer
[05:28] <djilks> So what would cause gzip to fail on a package that is located on an ubuntu server?
[05:28] <don> It knows thatit is a lexmark but no help
[05:28] <don> HP maby
[05:28] <anon32> don, what model exactly? that would help
[05:29] <don> No all bbut mine ha ha
[05:29] <don> X1155
[05:29] <don> scan print
[05:29] <vinicius> yes, mine is hp and I had no problem, except that I can t use the scanner yet
[05:29] <don> made for hp
[05:30] <don> thought it was going to load through wine
[05:30] <don> cant find printer
[05:30] <don> neet to run my software though
[05:30] <majnoon> trying to fix upgrade with sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:31] <don> I did not think I woulld ever see them open in linux
[05:32] <don> I see special dvrs for you
[05:32] <djilks> Error during update. Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzaip returned an error code (1)
[05:32] <don> check out site they have yours
[05:37] <majnoon> can one of you experts check https://bugs.launchpad.net/~nutnut
[05:40] <djilks> Error during update.  (USB finder, PCI antennae, etc.)
[05:48] <ubuntu> Well, wlanassistant does
[05:49] <snowdonkey> Ok, then go ahead and use WLAssistant.  :-)  Use whatever works.
[05:49] <ubuntu> And knetworkassistant can log on to networks wlanassistant has configured
[05:49] <ubuntu> But I want knetworkassistant
[05:50] <ubuntu> Can wlanassistant be disturbing knetworkassistant?
[05:50] <ubuntu> LjL are you an admin??
[05:50] <LjL> an admin?
[05:51] <ubuntu> yes, are you?
[05:51] <LjL> i have no idea what the heck you mean with admin.
[05:51] <LjL> i'm an admin on my computer, for sure.
[05:51] <ubuntu> A person that can ban and kick other people
[05:51] <ubuntu> from this channel
[05:52] <LjL> that's called an op.
[05:52] <jk-home_> a
[05:52] <majnoon> can one of you experts check https://bugs.launchpad.net/~nutnut
[05:52] <ubuntu> Is it op's task to ruin peoples computers?
[05:52] <ubuntu> Like say sudo apt-get autoremove wine?
[05:52] <LjL> ubuntu, you again?
[05:52] <ubuntu> Yes
[05:53] <ubuntu> How can I get this wireless thing work?
[05:53] <LjL> ubuntu, you're libelling me. please stop. i thought we made this clear.
[05:53] <ubuntu> I need help
[05:53] <LjL> i couldn't care less
[05:53] <pauljw> lol
[05:53] <ubuntu> How do I make a D-link card(usb) connect to a d-link router (router)?
[05:54] <bryan_> anyone know which IRC server should i use in feisty? dancer-ircd, iacd, ngircd or rageircd?
[05:54] <ubuntu> LjL first you break my computer, then you refuse to help me with a simple problem.
[05:54] <LjL> ubuntu: first part, wrong, second part, right.
[05:55] <markc> is there an amd64 specific pasge or info somewhere how to "officially" install mp3  goodness for amarok ?
[05:55] <ubuntu> Anyone know how to use knetworkmanager with a D-link thinig?
[05:55] <ubuntu> usb
[05:55] <ubuntu> !ping
[05:55] <ubotu> pong
[05:56] <ubuntu> !ping
[05:56] <markc> or, is there an amd64 specific channel for kubuntu ?
[05:56] <ubuntu> probabaly
[05:56] <defjux> ubuntu: dlink routers are only for telnet and usenet.
[05:57] <markc> ubuntu: do you know what it's called ?
[05:57] <pag> markc, afaik you can install mp3-support the same way you do in i386
[05:57] <ubuntu> D-Link
[05:57] <markc> psg: which is how ?
[05:57] <markc> pag: which is how ?
[05:58] <ubuntu> can I use a Topcom usb network card with knetworkmanager?
[05:58] <pag> markc, install libxine-extracodecs that should do the trick for Amarok
[05:58] <Whiz2> hey is there an easy way to remove all "dangling" links (links to files that no longer exist) from my system?
[05:58] <ubuntu> format the harddrive should remove them
[05:58] <don> ya right
[05:59] <markc> pag: thank you, too easy
[05:59] <pag> markc, np :)
[05:59] <don> just delete them i do
[06:00] <don> if it dont work it goes
[06:00] <Whiz2> ubuntu: yeah, but then it removes everything else as well... not trying to do that
[06:00] <ubuntu> What about removing them manually?
[06:00] <don> ya
[06:00] <don> no easy way
[06:01] <Whiz2> ubuntu: that may take too long if i don't know where they all are
[06:01] <ubuntu> How do I know if I have  NetworkManager 0.6.x installed??
[06:01] <trpr> Whiz2: maybe fslint will do what you need
[06:02] <ubuntu> But if you can't see them, they can't hurt you.
[06:02] <happytiger> Hi guys where to I get my ahnds on the apache2-ssl-certificate  script cant seem to find it?
[06:02] <happytiger> Hi guys where to I get my HAnds on the apache2-ssl-certificate  script cant seem to find it?
[06:02] <Whiz2> trpr: seperate package?
[06:02] <ubuntu> I do not know what anhds is
[06:02] <markc> Whiz2:  apt-get install symlinks ... it has a -d option
[06:03] <Whiz2> markc: lemme guess -d removes the dead ones? ;-)
[06:03] <markc> happytiger: /usr/sbin/make-ssl-cert
[06:03] <happytiger> markc thx
[06:04] <trpr> Whiz2: yes. i don't know what the preferred option is, but fslint claims to search out broken symlinks. markc's option might be more informed
[06:04] <markc> Whiz2:  quite likely :-) man symlinks
[06:04] <rafal> hello :)
[06:04] <don> yo
[06:05] <ubuntu> what is ndwiswrapper?
[06:05] <markc> Whiz2: symlinks -dr / ... looks good
[06:05] <lontra> ubuntu:  hit alt+f2 and type knetworkmanager ... if the icon pops up you have it :D
[06:05] <lontra> !ndiswrapper
[06:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:06] <markc> Whiz2: symlinks -vr / might be a good idea first
[06:06] <ubuntu> I have knetworkmanager, butnit wont detect netowrks
[06:07] <ubuntu> so it automaticaly connects to one, but I can't choose withc
[06:07] <lontra> ubuntu:  well you might need to edit /etc/network/interfaces or your card may just not work with knetworkmanager
[06:07] <don> maby it is not working reinstall it
[06:07] <ubuntu> But it manages yo log on at start up
[06:07] <ubuntu> I have
[06:07] <markc> Whiz2: there ya go -> symlinks -vr / | grep dangling
[06:07] <lontra> ubuntu: my orinoco card works with knetworkmanager but my built-in wireless (which requires ndiswrapper) doesn't
[06:08] <don> I loaded wine 5 times before it worked
[06:08] <trpr> lontra: speaking of which, after upgrading to feisty i was surprised to discover knetworkmanager was detecting wireless networks despite entries for my cards in /etc/network/interfaces. back on dapper i had to remove these entries for networkmanager to use the cards
[06:08] <ubuntu> But if it of some reason loses connection then I can't reconnect. But as long as the connection is stable from startup then it works great
[06:08] <ubuntu> What is wrong, and how do i get the d-link driver?
[06:08] <don> check out manufacturers site
[06:08] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them?
[06:09] <Whiz2> markc: symlinks -dr / seemed to do the trick
[06:09] <pollyo> Hello
[06:09] <ubuntu> ho manufactors d-link?
[06:09] <lontra> trpr: it depends on what is in that file whether or not knetworkmanager will detect it ...   but it's come a long way
[06:09] <don> not me
[06:09] <pollyo> Is there a script that will autodetect a networkcard?
[06:09] <don> let me know how you make out
[06:09] <trpr> lontra: indeed. i was surprised i didn't have to tweak it :)
[06:09] <lontra> trpr: the folks at suse have done a nice job with it :)
[06:10] <markc> wow, I have 97 dangling links on a fresh kubuntu feisty install
[06:10] <markc> obviously the kubuntu developers haven't heard of symlinks -dr :)
[06:12] <happytiger> markc how do you find "dangling" symlinks?
[06:12] <steven__> hello
[06:13] <jussi01> !hi | steven__
[06:13] <ubotu> steven__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:13] <steven__> hey
[06:13] <ubuntu> !hi | steven
[06:13] <ubotu> steven: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:13] <pollyo> Anyone know how to rerun the network card autodetection after you've installed ubuntu?
[06:13] <ubuntu> !hi | ubot
[06:13] <ubotu> ubot: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:13] <steven__> not me
[06:13] <Whiz2> happytiger: install "symlinks" then run it as sudo with the -dr / switch
[06:13] <lontra> ubuntu:  please stop ;)
[06:13] <markc> happytiger: apt-get install symlinks ; symlinks -vr / | grep dangling
[06:14] <jussi01> !botabuse > ubuntu
[06:14] <ubuntu> !hi | lontra
[06:14] <ubotu> lontra: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:14] <LjL> Whiz2: i think "find" has an option for findind dangling links
[06:14] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them?
[06:14] <Whiz2> LjL: i got them ty
[06:14] <steven__> never had success wid any webcam
[06:15] <ubuntu> !botabuse 1 jussi01
[06:15] <llutz> wolferine: logitech clicksmart 310 works fine (gspca-driver)
[06:15] <ubuntu> I have been lucky with a polaroid camera once
[06:16] <korobase> Hi,all.
[06:16] <steven__> hey
[06:16] <korobase> I have a question to ask!
[06:16] <ubuntu> Does anyone have 5 minutes to write me an driver??
[06:16] <ubuntu> Suprise
[06:16] <balint> hi, why cant i write into /usr/share/amsn/skins folder? :S
[06:16] <jussi01> korobase: yes?
[06:17] <wolferine> hey nalioth
[06:17] <nalioth> hi wolferine
[06:17] <korobase> After I install some fonts.What do I need to do next?
[06:17] <steven__> use them lol
[06:17] <happytiger> sudo symlinks -vr / | grep -c dangling
[06:17] <happytiger> 118
[06:17] <korobase> How to refresh the font cache?
[06:17] <balint> Why cant i write into /usr/share/amsn/skins folder? :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[06:18] <happytiger> markc So can symlinks remove em to?
[06:18] <korobase> jussi01,Can you help me?
[06:18] <markc> balint:  you probably have to be the root user, use sudo
[06:18] <pollyo> Am I going to have to reinstall just to get this thing to detect my network card?
[06:18] <markc> happytiger: yes... -d :)
[06:18] <balint> just type sudo into terminal?
[06:18] <korobase> How to refresh the font cache?
[06:19] <markc> balint: sudo -i -u root
[06:19] <korobase> Help me please!!!
[06:19] <steven__> bye
[06:19] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them?
[06:19] <happytiger> markc you just saw the man thx
[06:19] <jussi01> balint: kdesu konqueror will give a konweror window which is root
[06:19] <pollyo> wolferine: I have a logictech webcam on this machine.
[06:19] <balint> Webcams? hahah A4Tech webcams are uselesss in linux :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[06:19] <atidem> re
[06:19] <jussi01> !patience | korobase
[06:19] <ubotu> korobase: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:19] <wolferine> pollyo, can you look at lsusb
[06:20] <wolferine> and see your webcam ID?
[06:20] <balint> markc its the same :(
[06:20] <jussi01> korobase: sudo fc-cache -f -v
[06:20] <pollyo> wolferine: It is an old webcam.
[06:20] <pollyo> wolferine: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:0870 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[06:21] <wolferine> pollyo, what driver is it utilizing?
[06:21] <pollyo> Anyone know how I can get ubuntu to autodetect a network card?
[06:21] <markc> balint: does the folder actually exist ?
[06:21] <pollyo> wolferine: I have no idea.  I just plugged it in.
[06:21] <balint> markc ofcourse
[06:21] <balint> markc its the amsn skin folder
[06:21] <wolferine> pollyo, on Feisty?
[06:21] <pollyo> wolferine: Yes
[06:21] <wolferine> pollyo, nice
[06:22] <markc> balint: what command are you trying to use ?
[06:22] <wolferine> well, atleast I know some have had successes
[06:22] <wolferine> so maybe at some point I might get it working too
[06:22] <pollyo> wolferine: Any idea how to get a network card going?
[06:22] <pollyo> wolferine: Or a website you can point me to?
[06:22] <wolferine> pollyo, sorry, im not helping today, just working on getting my cam up, then reading
[06:22] <pollyo> I have a D-link wireless card I want to get running.
[06:23] <wolferine> pollyo, check the forums?
[06:23] <balint> markc i just wanna paste the file (a folder) into skins folder in konqueror
[06:23] <pollyo> wolferine: I'm not sure what to search for.
[06:23] <jussi01> pollyo: just search for your card model
[06:23] <pollyo> wolferine: I had hopes of a script that ubuntu would have.
[06:23] <wolferine> pollyo, installing a d-link XXX
[06:24] <pollyo> It ran a script during installation thought that script might be accessible now.
[06:24] <wolferine> where XXX is your brand of card
[06:24] <pollyo> wolferine: I'll give it a try.
[06:24] <jussi01> !wireless | pollyo
[06:24] <ubotu> pollyo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:24] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[06:24] <balint> markc i solved it, but copyed to another folder wich is also good for skins
[06:24] <jussi01> there are some dlink cards listed there pollyo
[06:24] <markc> pollyo: this might help -> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Get_your_wireless_card_working_in_Ubuntu
[06:25] <pollyo> markc: I'll take a look. thank you.
[06:25] <pollyo> jussi01: Thank you.
[06:25] <jussi01> np's pollyo
[06:29] <yaccin> yay new tastymenu version
[06:29] <fabske> helo
[06:30] <fabske> jemand da?
[06:30] <fabske> hab ne wichtige frage!
[06:30] <WillLuongo> !ge
[06:30] <ubotu>       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[06:30] <wolferine> !da | fabske
[06:30] <ubotu> fabske: For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[06:30] <WillLuongo> oops
[06:30] <WillLuongo> lol
[06:30] <wolferine> hehe
[06:30] <anon32> ge isn't German?
[06:30] <fabske> kann ich auf einem HP Notebook mit AMD Turion64 Prozessor Kubuntu 32 bit installieren?
[06:30] <fabske> oh
[06:30] <wolferine> i never get it right either WillLuongo
[06:30] <fabske> english
[06:30] <fabske> ok
[06:30] <wolferine> i was lucky
[06:30] <WillLuongo> anon32: nope.
[06:30] <fabske> i have a question
[06:31] <wolferine> use 32 bit fabske
[06:31] <wolferine> but use the alternative CD
[06:31] <fabske> is it possible to install Kubuntu32bit on a AMD Turoin64bit machine?
[06:31] <wolferine> .....
[06:31] <WillLuongo> fabske yes
[06:31] <wolferine> read above
[06:31] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[06:31] <anon32> fabske, yes, very much so
[06:31] <fabske> why alternate?
[06:32] <anon32> fabske, because the Alternate installer has less issues
[06:32] <fabske> because the 64 bit version makes trouble with firefox plugins
[06:32] <WillLuongo> I was able to get it working with the regular install/live disk.
[06:32] <fabske> less issues? for example?
[06:32] <anon32> fabske, dunno, apparently the desktop/livecd installer doesn't have enough options or intelligence
[06:32] <anon32> it doesn't really matter though
[06:33] <fabske> ok
[06:33] <fabske> so i just tried a 32 bit feisty to boot
[06:33] <fabske> but then it stopped by loading die broadcom wlan driver wich wasn't on the disk
[06:33] <llutz> wolferine: Bus 003 Device 003: ID 046d:0900 Logitech, Inc. ClickSmart 310
[06:33] <fabske> so i treid again with "live noapic"
[06:34] <fabske> but the the cd-rom device made much sound!
[06:34] <wolferine> llutz, what driver are you using?
[06:34] <anon32> I think it's "live noacpi", but..
[06:35] <llutz> wolferine: as i said b4: gspca
[06:35] <systest> are all the feisty kernels suitable for xen dom0 or do you need to use the xen kernel pkg?
[06:35] <wolferine> llutxz, sorry, I missed that
[06:35] <fabske> i put the cd-rom into another cd device and it ran perfectly
[06:35] <ubuntu__> is this in german ?
[06:36] <anon32> ubuntu__, this is the english channel
[06:36] <ubuntu__> und in deutsch ?
[06:36] <chronos> hey all, good afternon
[06:37] <llutz> !de| ubuntu__
[06:37] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:37] <chronos> we have kubuntu 7.04 ISO for dowload?
[06:37] <niles> hi
[06:37] <ubuntu__> thank you
[06:37] <anon32> chronos, yes?
[06:37] <niles> which repo in sources.list provides nvidia-glx?
[06:37] <anon32> !download
[06:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[06:37] <niles> i dont have enuff resources to apt-get update my entire sources.list file
[06:37] <chronos> nice
[06:37] <chronos> anon32: you know flisol
[06:38] <anon32> no I don't know flisol
[06:38] <chronos> latin festival of instalation of free software
[06:38] <anon32> nope, and I don't think I care about it
[06:38] <chronos> anon32: I instaled ubuntu 7.04 on 10 machines yesterday :)
[06:38] <chronos> ubuntu is much good :)
[06:39] <chronos> flisol is one festival on all latin america of one day, people install free software on machines and other things
[06:39] <anon32> ok... I still don't think I care... moving on..
[06:40] <chronos> wheel, congratulations for ubuntu, is much nice
[06:40] <markc> chronos: that's great, good to hear :)
[06:40] <chronos> markc: much good :)
[06:41] <chronos> wheel, I don't see torrent for kubuntu cds ... don't exists?
[06:42] <tycho> chronos: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/release/dvd/
[06:43] <chronos> tycho: I need cd :(
[06:43] <markc> chronos: yes, there are liveCD torrents on my local mirror
[06:43] <chronos> not problem, I use ubuntu and install kde
[06:43] <markc> http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/
[06:43] <chronos> hum
[06:43] <chronos> nice
[06:43] <markc> chronos: there are torrents there
[06:44] <chronos> very thx markc
[06:47] <wolferine> in dmesg I have the follow error (multiple ones): atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e01e <keycode>' to make it known.
[06:47] <markc> bugger, I can't use skype on amd64... anyone know of a cross platform voip-like skype alternative ?
[06:47] <yaccin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1O56kY9-ZY
[06:47] <wolferine> how do I set keycodes exactly?
[06:47] <Mena> Hwy realplayer dont play .avi files
[06:47] <Mena> why*
[06:47] <markc> me no flash enabled
[06:47] <yaccin> Menbecause realplayer is only for real media
[06:48] <yaccin> Mena: use kaffeine for avis
[06:48] <yaccin> :)
[06:48] <Mena> yaccin ok
[06:48] <anon32> use mplayer :-)
[06:48] <anon32> it's the best
[06:48] <Mena> ok
[06:48] <Mena> i dont know :)
[06:48] <anon32> food time...
[06:48] <Mena> i guess i will install maplyer
[06:48] <yaccin> kmplayer
[06:48] <yaccin> :)
[06:48] <Mena> ok
[06:49] <gggggdxn> I set globle enviroment variable $LD_PRELOAD in /etc/profile, but when KDE starts, it was unsetted by start_kdeinit. Could anyone here tell me that in which file should I reset that variable? Thank you!
[06:49] <markc> mplayer is greatany skype alternative suggestions ?
[06:49] <markc> oops, any skype alternative suggestions ?
[06:49] <yaccin> hmm
[06:49] <bossa> hello
[06:50] <bossa> does it exist an italian kubuntu irc channel?
[06:50] <JohnFlux_> markc: you can run skype itself
[06:50] <yaccin> markc: theres a skype-wrapper for kopete... if i remember corectly
[06:50] <markc> JohnFlux_: on amd64 ?
[06:50] <yaccin> but you still have to have skype isntalled and running
[06:50] <yaccin> hmm
[06:50] <yaccin> i know why i dont like 64 bit
[06:50] <yaccin> :P
[06:51] <JohnFlux_> markc: 32bit version maybe
[06:51] <JohnFlux_> markc: just install the libraries
[06:51] <markc> yaccin: yeah, I tossed up slightly better performance versus... no skype/flash etc
[06:52] <yaccin> :D
[06:52] <yaccin> i couldnt live without flash
[06:52] <markc> JohnFlux_: a clue as to what they might be called ? (so I can apt-get)
[06:52] <Mena> !bot |Mena
[06:52] <JohnFlux_> !skype | markc
[06:52] <ubotu> markc: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:53] <llutz> markc: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=10125
[06:53] <markc> thanks guys
[06:53] <Mena> Thanks for help :) Bye
[06:53] <sonicchao> How do I set a password on grub? I heard that it's possible but can't find a decent guide anywhere
[06:53] <tycho> anyone here use xwinwrap on a dual head box?
[06:55] <JohnFlux_> sonicchao: edit /boot/grub/menu.list    and go to where it says password
[06:55] <markc> sonicchao: -> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/11/2153256
[06:55] <llutz> sonicchao: "password mysecret" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:58] <just-this-time> edgy upgrades very smoothly to feisty or so it seems
[07:00] <Skyblast> Not for a lot of people it hasn't
[07:00] <Skyblast> Seems to be a  crap shoot
[07:00] <lontra> it my fonts look crummy in kde is that cause my resolution is off?
[07:01] <lontra> one other thing if i have a dual-core processor do i need a special kernel?
[07:01] <JohnFlux_> !fonts
[07:01] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:01] <JohnFlux_> lontra:  nope
[07:02] <just-this-time> !generic
[07:02] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[07:02] <llutz> lontra: -generic is fine
[07:04] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[07:05] <llutz> wolferine: is yours listed here: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html  ?
[07:06] <wolferine> llutz yes
[07:06] <llutz> wolferine: then install gspca
[07:06] <wolferine> 046d:08f5
[07:06] <wolferine> i think  I did already
[07:06] <wolferine> ah wait
[07:06] <wolferine> didnt work
[07:07] <wolferine> llutz, i take that back :/
[07:08] <wolferine> camorama gives me: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection.
[07:12] <ubuntu> hola?
[07:12] <ubuntu> algun espaolP?
[07:12] <ubuntu> ola?
[07:12] <ubuntu> algun espaol?
[07:12] <atidem> !es | ubuntu
[07:12] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:15] <oems> lu all :)
[07:16] <oems_> bonsoir , pas bavard dit donc !
[07:18] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[07:22] <llutz> wolferine: tested the "quickcam"-driver?
[07:23] <pollyo> !wireless
[07:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:23] <pollyo> !wifi
[07:23] <ubuntu> how can i join in a spanish channel?
[07:23] <llutz> ubuntu: /j #kubuntu-es
[07:23] <ubuntu> thanks
[07:26] <wolferine> llutz, tested?
[07:26] <wolferine> what do you mean exactly?
[07:26] <llutz> wolferine: have you tested it?
[07:26] <Chrissie> hi all. I'm migrating computers, can anyone tell me where the emails in kontacts are stored so that I can move them to the new comp?
[07:26] <llutz> wolferine: plug-in your cam, "sudo modprobe quickcam"
[07:27] <llutz> Chrissie:  ~/.kde/share....
[07:28] <wolferine> llutz, nothing
[07:28] <Chrissie> llutz: thanks. Will have a look now now brb
[07:28] <Dekans> ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail
[07:28] <llutz> wolferine: "nothing" like no error or "no picture"
[07:28] <llutz>  ?
[07:29] <llutz> wolferine: look into /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog for errors or further info
[07:31] <wolferine> llutz messages is just dmesgs
[07:31] <wolferine> and its flooded with setkeycodes errors
[07:32] <llutz> wolferine: does "lsmod |grep quickcam" show the module as being loaded?
[07:32] <wolferine> quickcam               72356  0
[07:32] <wolferine> videodev               28160  2 quickcam,gspca
[07:32] <wolferine> usbcore               134280  11 quickcam,gspca,usblp,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,usb_storage,libusual,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[07:33] <wolferine> i see nothing in both /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[07:33] <wolferine> regarding my CAM
[07:33] <llutz> wolferine: sudo "rmmod gspca quickcam && sudo  modprobe quickcam"
[07:33] <joseph> hello
[07:34] <joseph> can someone help me ?
[07:34] <wolferine> nothing llutz
[07:34] <llutz> wolferine: "nothing" like " no error "or "no picture"?
[07:34] <Lynoure> joseph: maybe, I'll try to see your question.
[07:34] <ryks> hi all
[07:34] <wolferine> sudo rmmod gspca quickcam
[07:34] <wolferine> profx@profx:/dev$ sudo  modprobe quickcam
[07:34] <wolferine> profx@profx:/dev$
[07:34] <wolferine> lsmod |grep quickcam
[07:34] <wolferine> quickcam               72356  0
[07:34] <wolferine> videodev               28160  1 quickcam
[07:35] <wolferine> the gspca has been remove properly from the quickcam line
[07:35] <llutz> wolferine: no error means success, try camorama or other app
[07:35] <wolferine> and from the usbcore line as well
[07:35] <Lynoure> joseph: hmm, I cannot promise I'll help without knowing with what, but if you tell me what's the matter, we can see about that.
[07:35] <joseph> I need help with my ubuntu every time I try to use update manager it knock out my network connection
[07:35] <wolferine> camorama gives me: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection.
[07:36] <llutz> wolferine: "ls -l /dev/video0"
[07:36] <wolferine> crwxrwxrwx 1 root root 81, 0 2007-04-29 02:01 /dev/video0
[07:37] <wolferine> c meaning what?
[07:37] <llutz> wolferine: try "sudo chown root:video /dev/video0 && sudo chmod 660 /dev/video0"
[07:38] <wolferine> camorama gives the came issue
[07:40] <wolferine> even changed the group to my user
[07:40] <wolferine> and doesnt work either
[07:40] <llutz> wolferine: sry, no idea then. "quickcam" should have created that device with proper permissions when it is loaded.
[07:40] <wolferine> sudo rmmod gspca quickcam
[07:40] <wolferine> what did that do?
[07:41] <wolferine> remove the driver?
[07:41] <llutz> wolferine: unload modules gspca and quickcam
[07:41] <wolferine> ah
[07:41] <wolferine> but my qucikcam module was still loaded wasnt it?
[07:41] <wolferine> videodev               28160  1 quickcam
[07:41] <llutz> wolferine: you've loaded it after that with modprobe... again
[07:42] <wolferine> oh right
[07:42] <enzo_> I can't play AVI's. Any idea?
[07:42] <wolferine> in the ls, what is a file type c mean?
[07:42] <llutz> wolferine: try "sudo rmmod quickcam videodev && sudo modprobe quickcam"
[07:42] <llutz> wolferine: maybe videodev creates the /dev/video0 correct this time
[07:43] <enzo_> I get the error message "No plugin found to handle this resource (path/filename.avi)
[07:43] <wolferine> nope
[07:43] <wolferine> nothing again
[07:44] <llutz> wolferine: you won't get any output if the module loads correct
[07:44] <llutz> wolferine: "ls -l /dev/video0"
[07:44] <llutz> wolferine: should look like  "crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2007-04-29 19:36 /dev/video0"
[07:44] <wolferine> gives the same output as before
[07:44] <wolferine> do I need to create a video group?
[07:45] <llutz> wolferine: it should exist. "id" tells you in which groups you are
[07:45] <wolferine> right
[07:45] <wolferine> im in it
[07:45] <Smoke2k> ok kin folk
[07:45] <Smoke2k> this is nuts
[07:46] <Smoke2k> right off the bat I gotta say this kubuntu is by far superior to anything i have used
[07:46] <vecina> How come the splash loading screen for kubuntu makes my monitor lose signal? xserver-xorg is configured for fglrx and i have a radeon x700.
[07:46] <Smoke2k> I briefly installed libranet distro long time ago and was quite happy with it
[07:46] <vecina> i have to use recovery mode each and every time to bypass it
[07:46] <Smoke2k> never had time to set it up
[07:46] <anon32> !framebuffer | vecina
[07:46] <ubotu> vecina: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[07:46] <wolferine> so could something else be using the device?
[07:46] <Smoke2k> but my live cd has one fatal flaw
[07:46] <wolferine> could it be a bad driver?
[07:46] <Smoke2k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809
[07:46] <Smoke2k> the first step to this help is not included
[07:46] <llutz> wolferine: sorry, no further ideas here. maybe check google for quickcam-issues
[07:46] <wolferine> could I be referencing the device incorrectly
[07:47] <Smoke2k> I cann't find anything under administration in kmenu
[07:47] <Smoke2k> under system it should have that
[07:47] <enzo_> Anybody here having issues viewing AVI files?
[07:47] <Smoke2k> do I have to install this to set this up properly
[07:47] <anon32> no
[07:47] <vecina> I dont get a black screen, guys. My monitor literally loses signal. The light on it goes from green to orange
[07:47] <anon32> enzo_, btw, AVI is not a codec... repeat after me... AVI is not a codec... AVI is not a codec...
[07:47] <wolferine> can I tell you anything from my device manager?
[07:47] <anon32> vecina, it's the same problem
[07:47] <Smoke2k> heh anon
[07:47] <wolferine> just to confirm its correct?
[07:48] <Smoke2k> yea i would just get vlc and proper codec
[07:48] <vecina> anon32: Really. Okay.... thanks :)
[07:48] <enzo_> anon32: I didn't say it was a codec. It's what the error message says.
[07:48] <tero> anyone has tried beryi with nvidia & amd64?
[07:48] <tero> my X crashes
[07:48] <Smoke2k> man i have got it on my other computer
[07:48] <llutz> wolferine: " lsof /dev/video0"
[07:48] <Smoke2k> beryl is friggin sweet
[07:48] <Smoke2k> my buddy set it up for me
[07:48] <Smoke2k> i am going to put it on here
[07:48] <Smoke2k> just learning linux
[07:48] <vecina> Second question: why do i have to reinstall dbus every time i log in? It turns to 0 kbs and i cant automount anything
[07:48] <Smoke2k> i read about linux and shell years ago
[07:48] <wolferine> llutz, no output
[07:48] <Smoke2k> man has it progressed
[07:48] <enzo_> Smoke2k: I have Beryl on my desktop.
[07:49] <Smoke2k> it made vistas stocks go down when it came out
[07:49] <Smoke2k> :D
[07:49] <Smoke2k> tell me that is not badass
[07:49] <tero> any idea why X segfaults when I run beryl? drivers and Opengl seems to be working
[07:49] <llutz> wolferine i give up :)
[07:49] <Smoke2k> I cann't believe no one has ran this cd live
[07:49] <Smoke2k> wtf
[07:49] <wolferine> well thanks anyways llutz
[07:50] <Smoke2k> if anything mouse working would be sufficient
[07:50] <cox377_> can anyone recommend a good avi2dvd app?
[07:50] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[07:51] <wolferine> cox tovid
[07:51] <llutz> wolferine: thing is: there shouldn't be a /dev/video0 if no module is loaded. Your device existed before and i don't know how to find out why.
[07:51] <wolferine> llutz i have no idea about all this
[07:51] <wolferine> im just going by what you asked me to do
[07:52] <enzo_> anon32: So what's your answer now?
[07:52] <llutz> wolferine: so i aked the wrong things, good luck anyway
[07:52] <llutz> asked
[07:52] <anon32> !restrictedformats | enzo_
[07:52] <ubotu> enzo_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:53] <wolferine> llutz, it was a good start
[07:54] <wolferine> llutz I have a video, video0 and video1
[07:54] <wolferine> does that matter?
[07:54] <llutz> wolferine: all with same permissions? "ls -l..."
[07:55] <llutz> wolferine: "ls -l /dev/video*"
[07:55] <Smoke2k> can somone please verify something for me
[07:55] <ultraata> what?
[07:55] <wolferine> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2007-04-29 02:01 video -> /dev/video0
[07:55] <Smoke2k> I really need to know if I am just missing install window on this thing
[07:55] <wolferine> crw-rw---- 1 root profx 81, 0 2007-04-29 02:01 video0
[07:55] <Smoke2k> I mean administration
[07:55] <wolferine> crw-r--r-- 1 root root 81, 1 2007-04-29 02:01 video1
[07:55] <Smoke2k> i need synaptic package manager
[07:56] <Smoke2k> I also need my tracking pad to work
[07:56] <llutz> wolferine: whats your local time?
[07:56] <wolferine> pst
[07:56] <llutz> means?
[07:56] <Smoke2k> I am about to have 100mb 1500terrabyte warez server
[07:56] <wolferine> oh
[07:56] <wolferine> 10:56 am
[07:56] <Smoke2k> I am tired of fucking around
[07:56] <tresko22> Hi, I need to modprobe my old 3c509 card every time I boot up, are there any auto modprobe option at boot time?
[07:56] <Daviey> !ohmy
[07:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:56] <Smoke2k> help me and i will make it worth your while
[07:56] <anon32> !warez
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <wolferine> !language | Smoke2k
[07:56] <llutz> wolferine: *g thx, the device were created 8h ago
[07:56] <ubotu> Smoke2k: please see above
[07:56] <anon32> lol
[07:56] <Smoke2k> i mean gb not terrabyte
[07:57] <Smoke2k> :)
[07:57] <Smoke2k> well atleast the bots can help me with my language
[07:57] <wolferine> llutz, which means?
[07:57] <llutz> Smoke2k: echo "3c509" >> /etc/modules (if the module is named so)
[07:57] <llutz> wolferine: is that the time you started your computer?
[07:57] <Smoke2k> mmm run in shell?
[07:58] <wolferine> no, i pulled the camera out, and put it into a new usb port
[07:58] <Smoke2k> i mean konsole
[07:58] <montero61> hi
[07:58] <Smoke2k> yea it told me 3059 back
[07:58] <llutz> Smoke2k: sudo echo "3c509" >> /etc/modules (if the module is named so) in a console
[07:59] <Smoke2k> no sorry it says permission denied
[07:59] <llutz> wolferine: i meant: is 02:01 the time you started your computer?
[07:59] <montero61> tanks for creation of kubuntus am am live in santiago de chile latinamerica
[07:59] <montero61> veri tanks
[07:59] <wolferine> llutz, no
[07:59] <montero61> :)
[07:59] <tresko22> llutz: thanx :)
[07:59] <Smoke2k> so should i go about installing this
[07:59] <Smoke2k> basically i am running my kernel from cd and cann't properly administrate this
[07:59] <Smoke2k> right
[08:00] <Smoke2k> If I installed it I would have access to that
[08:00] <Smoke2k> it was telling me about using sudo on my wifi application too when it couldn't pick up my network
[08:00] <Smoke2k> llutz you think i am just creating a hassle for myself by not installing it?
[08:01] <Smoke2k> if wifi is more stable on kubuntu i will let you be first in my server
[08:02] <Smoke2k> i can prolly give ya 100k for now until i get my main one built
[08:02] <Smoke2k> i got quite a bit of good stuff
[08:02] <wolferine> give me a break
[08:02] <Smoke2k> www.myspace.com/carygray
[08:02] <Smoke2k> check out 3-6 mafia blog
[08:02] <wolferine> hey llutz gone afk?
[08:02] <lontra> !medibuntu
[08:02] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:03] <Smoke2k> what about beryl where should i go to get big self extracting package that gives me everything
[08:03] <Smoke2k> my friend was telling me but he is not awake
[08:03] <llutz> wolferine: some more jobs to do .)
[08:03] <wolferine> l
[08:03] <wolferine> k, thanks
[08:04] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[08:04] <yaccin> mine works ootb
[08:04] <yaccin> its just a little buggy
[08:05] <wolferine> yaccin, what is your camera in lsusb
[08:05] <yaccin> one moment
[08:05] <pestilence> is there any good "post-it" type software for ubuntu?  something you can put stickies on your desktop with notes to yourself?
[08:05] <yaccin> have to plug it in
[08:05] <yaccin> :D
[08:05] <pestilence> s/ubuntu/kubuntu
[08:06] <yaccin> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 046d:0920 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[08:06] <bartek> pestilence: tried knotes? should be in utilities
[08:06] <wolferine> yaccin, using feisty?
[08:07] <montero61> good bay
[08:07] <pestilence> bartek: that's it!  thanks
[08:07] <montero61> nos vemos amigos
[08:07] <don> I just tried creative web nx it loaded but it says it cant find cammara
[08:08] <bartek> pestilence: there are much more things, just lokk around. you might like basket. but you need to apt-get it first
[08:08] <phratman> pestilence: KNotes, notes, tomboy... use apt-cache search
[08:09] <pestilence> phratman: thanks
[08:13] <llutz> wolferine: use the search on http://ubuntuforums.org , there are lots of messages
[08:14] <wolferine> llutz, yeah, I have been researching on the forums
[08:15] <llutz> wolferine: easier to buy a new cam :)
[08:16] <Gearman> Hi all i am new to ubuntu i am trying to get my external monitor to work on my laptop hp nx7400 can someone help me please?
[08:17] <don> go into bios and make shure it is on
[08:17] <FireTalon> anyone have any screenshots of kde4?
[08:18] <don> bios german
[08:18] <yaccin> Firelooks like kde3
[08:18] <yaccin> FireTalon:
[08:18] <apokryphos> FireTalon: there's a live cd available, no need to look at screenies ;)
[08:19] <wolferine> llutz, i did that with my video card :)
[08:19] <wolferine> hey, btw, I just found this llutz
[08:19] <wolferine> sudo camorama
[08:19] <wolferine> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[08:19] <yaccin> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Four+Live?content=57117
[08:19] <apokryphos> FireTalon: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2785
[08:19] <wolferine> sound issues?
[08:22] <Dezine> Hi everybody, I'm looking for some high quality versions of the Kubuntu logo to make some stuff with. I have seen the ones on the site, I was curious if there are any bigger versions anywhere, google was no help :)
[08:23] <SSJ_GZ> Dezine: Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kubuntu_Logo.svg
[08:23] <Dezine> o
[08:23] <denis> hello
[08:23] <Dezine> yeah that's a good size
[08:24] <SSJ_GZ> Dezine: It's an SVG, so you can make it as big as you want =)
[08:24] <Dezine> thanks :) wanna make some wallpapers and stuff for myspace
[08:24] <Dezine> cool
[08:25] <pollyo> Any idea why feisty would autodetect a network card on installation but not when booting from the harddrive?
[08:26] <denis> I have some problems with k-feisty+nvidia..... kdm starts with 1024x768@85, but when i login in kde it changes to 1024x768@87i *INTERLACES* it hurts my eyes very bad, somebody had the same problem?
[08:27] <denis> if i run nvidia-settings I can change it back to  1024x768@85, but in everytime i boot i have the same issue
[08:27] <Graham> Don't use nividia-settings it's shite.
[08:27] <hsystem-x> check the xorg settings.
[08:27] <Graham> I command thee to use this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:28] <denis> xorg is OK
[08:28] <Graham> Negative.
[08:28] <denis> kdm boots in 85hz progressive
[08:28] <Graham> I want an LCD monitor, CTR sucks.
[08:29] <chronos> hum
[08:29] <chronos> people
[08:29] <denis> system-settings-> screen shows 50-55hz
[08:29] <anon32> Graham, yeah, CTR sucks so much... that it doesn't even exist!
[08:29] <chronos> kubuntu needs a fast access to konsole on livecd
[08:29] <alx_> hi
[08:29] <Dezine> Hm I like my CRT :D
[08:29] <chronos> one konsole icon is the best
[08:30] <epimeth> konverstion was open, can't be bothered to search online :-) ... what packages do I need for fully integrated apache2+ php + mysql
[08:30] <epimeth> ?
[08:30] <alx_> men
[08:30] <Graham> chronos: Mines an old one that I nicked from school because my old one was chipped.
[08:30] <alx_> do you know why kommando didn't work with the new kubuntu?
[08:30] <Dezine> lcd monitors don't seem to refresh enough
[08:30] <Graham> piss! brb.
[08:31] <anon32> yeah, a good LCD is soo much more expensive
[08:31] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[08:31] <Graham> My webcam is suicidal, it just jumped off my desk.
[08:31] <Dezine> lol
[08:32] <Graham> Out of interest, who here isn't using Koversation?
[08:32] <denis> me
[08:32] <firecrotch> epimeth: apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[08:32] <firecrotch> Graham: Me (Gaim)
[08:32] <firecrotch> er... pidgen
[08:33] <don> mine mite as well
[08:33] <Dezine> I like gaim myself, but sometimes I'm on Trillian (when I'm on windows).
[08:33] <epimeth> cheers firecrotch
[08:34] <firecrotch> epimeth: No problem.  I'm sorta the server guy in the room here (using Ubuntu on my dedicated webserver)
[08:34] <Graham> I don't think there's a good IRC client for Windows, you have to buy xchat, mirc sucks... I go with that irc add on for firefox.
[08:34] <epimeth> firecrotch: will be doing that myself very soon :-)
[08:34] <unix_infidel> Graham: not true.
[08:34] <Dezine> Yeah, I've been using mirc for years but like xchat a lot more
[08:34] <unix_infidel> Graham: xchat builds are free, there's irssi, and hydrairc
[08:35] <unix_infidel> I personally use irssi in win32
[08:35] <yaccin> konversation :)
[08:35] <unix_infidel> iirc, there's kvirc for win32 2
[08:35] <yaccin> Graham: theres xchat2 for windows
[08:35] <Graham> I like konversation, it's just simple.
[08:35] <yaccin> and its free
[08:35] <epimeth> firecrotch: you got an email?  I might appreciate some help when it comes down to the nitty gritty....
[08:36] <yaccin> Graham: http://silverex.org/news/
[08:36] <firecrotch> epimeth: pm?
[08:36] <Graham> hmmm?
[08:36] <epimeth> firecrotch: sure, thats good too
[08:38] <yaccin> Graham: free xchat2 for windows
[08:38] <yaccin> :)
[08:38] <baldie> !network
[08:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:39] <eli_> hello
[08:39] <Graham> yaccin: I see what you did there.
[08:41] <Graham> !help
[08:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:41] <jussi01> hei, can someone tell me how to keep logs of msn chats in kopete?
[08:41] <Graham> jussi01: Not to be a twat, but have you tried aMSN instead?
[08:42] <yaccin> jussi01: it autoamtically does
[08:42] <jussi01> Graham: yes, I like kopete
[08:42] <Graham> jussi01: Cool.
[08:42] <yaccin> rightclick on the contact to view the history (the contact, not the msn-icon!)
[08:42] <ultraata> does anyoune know is there any IM client for linux that supports ICQ extra status?
[08:42] <Graham> gaim maybe?
[08:42] <yaccin> i dont think so
[08:43] <jussi01> yaccin: that doesnt work...
[08:43] <ultraata> I mean extra status icons like hot-dog, beer etc
[08:43] <don> my web cam started working !
[08:43] <Graham> don: Want some delicious cake?
[08:44] <don> what?
[08:45] <don> there may be hope for kubuntu yet
[08:45] <Graham> DELICIOUS CAKE!  Does anyone know of any programs/projects that people would like to see?
[08:46] <Graham> don: http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8349/recipultimatechocolatecake0ra.jpg
[08:47] <don> ya what kind of cake he has
[08:47] <Graham> tomg: Something that has nothing to do with OSS preferably.
[08:48] <don> i looked
[08:48] <Graham> !alsa
[08:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:48] <jussi01> tomg: what sort of project does it have to be?
[08:48] <don> what is that stuff on the cake?
[08:48] <Graham> don: CAKE MIX!
[08:48] <radu> tomg: pretty hard to find smth which was not  already done.
[08:48] <Graham> alsa ROOLS!
[08:48] <tomg> jussi01: theres no real restriction on it, i think they prefer thing to do with maths, but not essential
[08:49] <don> strange
[08:49] <hitmanWilly> Graham: i think he meant oss as in open source software
[08:49] <tomg> radu: i no, thats the trouble lol
[08:49] <Graham> tomg: Do you mean open source software or the open sound system?
[08:49] <Pete_> hm, something odd has happened, my system seems to have not booted with a SMP kernel. Why would that happen
[08:50] <Graham> !grub Pete_
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub pete_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <Graham> !grub
[08:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:50] <tomg> Graham: open source software
[08:50] <Graham> ubotu: sucks ass.
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks ass. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <Graham> :P
[08:50] <jussi01> Graham: you need a | between the factoid and the name
[08:51] <Graham> tomg: Program a machine that that can calculate the meaning of life, the universe and everything.
[08:51] <don> eat some cake and calm down
[08:51] <tinin> Hi, is anyone runnig Compiz on Feisty ???
[08:51] <fit4lfe_> I have a 56 inch hd  television and feisty almost pull it off were the whole screen would show
[08:51] <jussi01> tinin: #ubuntu-effects
[08:51] <tomg> Graham: oh i already did that one last week
[08:51] <don> what is it
[08:51] <tinin> jussi01 thanx
[08:51] <fit4lfe_> how can I can full screen effects
[08:51] <Graham> tomg: Hmm...
[08:52] <Graham> tomg: I'll be serious now.
[08:52] <tomg> Graham: lol thanks :D
[08:52] <tomg> Graham: so do you yourself have a program that you feel is missing from ubuntu?
[08:52] <bartek> tomg: in which language du prefer to program?
[08:52] <Graham> I'm thinking...
[08:53] <bartek> tomg *do you
[08:53] <tomg> bartek: id like to go for c/c++
[08:53] <tomg> bartek: but its not set in stone
[08:53] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[08:54] <don> use wwine it worked for me with creative nx
[08:54] <kamikaze> tomg: how much time do you want to invest in the project?
[08:54] <bartek> tomg: you could try one of the bigger kde desktop projects, improving little by little. Think amaroK
[08:54] <baldie> sorry to interrupt.. but what do you want to develop, tomg ?
[08:54] <tomg> kamikaze: i have a few months
[08:54] <Graham> What about a program that automaticly mounts devices and stuff that's plugged in?
[08:55] <don> good idea
[08:55] <Graham> I mean... KDE does something similar, but it's... really crap.
[08:55] <bartek> Graham: ehh kde already has this?
[08:55] <don> better crossover
[08:55] <tomg> baldie: i really have to start one from scratch, they dont like you to take stuff and build on it
[08:55] <bartek> Graham: don't think so. it works for me
[08:55] <tomg> Graham: lol
[08:55] <leileilol> hmm
[08:56] <tomg> Graham: is fine 4 me too
[08:56] <kamikaze> Graham: isn't that what HAL is for? wait for kde4, it is called solid ;)
[08:56] <leileilol> i have kubuntu feisty test installed still, there's a way to upgrade that to the final release right
[08:56] <baldie> tomg: do I understand you correct if I say you are new to programming and wanna develop for Kubuntu/Ubuntu ?
[08:56] <Graham> When I plug my camera in it sees 2 devices, it sees my camera as a device and mass USB, if I try to load the camera as a device it screws up. But it works when I load the mass USB space.
[08:57] <Graham> !upgrade | leileilol
[08:57] <ubotu> leileilol: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:57] <tomg> baldie: i have done programming before, but mainly web based stuff (php etc...) but i want to get into the desktop for this next project
[08:57] <baldie> ok
[08:57] <leileilol> yeah but that's edgy > feisty
[08:57] <leileilol> not feisty test > feisty
[08:57] <Graham> CLICK IT!
[08:58] <smoke2k> good evening people
[08:58] <baldie> tomg: I don't know anything about it.. I'm kind'a in the same situation as you, except that my goal atm just is to learn C, and not to do anything specific :>
[08:58] <smoke2k> damn i didn't know i had to install synaptic package manager therough apt get
[08:58] <smoke2k> i didn't stop to think about it
[08:58] <baldie> tomg: I've also done a lot of php etc
[08:58] <FireTalon> whats wrong with adept?
[08:58] <smoke2k> I hope that resolves problems i have with tracking pad and wifi
[08:58] <tomg> baldie: yea, but i found the best way to learn a language is to do a project with it
[08:58] <leileilol> i did click it
[08:59] <smoke2k> well let me check out two pages I have found to fix my computer
[08:59] <smoke2k> I am still in the dark here but I am learning
[08:59] <Graham> Go to feisty upgrades.
[08:59] <tomg> baldie: ill give you my email address if you want, we can always start up something on sf.net if you want?
[08:59] <baldie> tomg: idd... but I'm having a forced C course right now during my education (mathematics), so I have a lot of exercises to do.. and I don't have any time besides that atm.. but in the summer maybe
[08:59] <baldie> sure, although I don't think I'm up for anything before July
[09:00] <tomg> baldie: sure, thats the main reason i want to get into it, ill be studying maths at uni, and they say it helps to know c
[09:00] <baldie> ah cool :>
[09:01] <kamikaze> tomg: WHAT?
[09:01] <smoke2k> well it seems like i saved this in html form not where i can see addy
[09:01] <smoke2k> let me look for addy again
[09:01] <tomg> kamikaze: ?
[09:02] <tomg> anyway, if anyone has any ideas, let me know, my email is tomjamesgillespie at googlemail dot com
[09:02] <tomg> cyall later
[09:03] <smoke2k> i don't know could someone just help me install synaptic package manager through apt get
[09:03] <smoke2k> i would be happy enough
[09:04] <llutz> smoke2k: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:05] <wolferine> parle vous en francais?
[09:05] <baldie> I have a question.. I've messed up KNetworkManager (oh well not me, but it's bugged on me) ... how do I fix it ?? remove with purge and reinstall, or?
[09:05] <smoke2k> motherfucker
[09:05] <smoke2k> apt-get update won't work for me
[09:06] <smoke2k> sorry for the swearing
[09:06] <Tm_T> !fr | wolferine
[09:06] <smoke2k> it tells me I have wrong permissions
[09:06] <ubotu> wolferine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:06] <llutz> smoke2k: sudo...
[09:06] <smoke2k> i am logged into root
[09:07] <kamikaze> smoke2k: type "id" and paste here the output
[09:07] <smoke2k> that was unusual
[09:07] <smoke2k> it made my usb harddrive spin
[09:08] <smoke2k> smoke2k@smoke2k-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:08] <smoke2k> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:08] <smoke2k> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:08] <jussi01> smoke2k: close adept
[09:08] <smoke2k> i put in my password and it did nothing
[09:09] <smoke2k> oh ok
[09:09] <smoke2k> thx
[09:09] <smoke2k> I guess I will just chat here till I am done updating
[09:09] <smoke2k> did yall see my viacom whore page
[09:09] <smoke2k> I appreciate the help
[09:10] <smoke2k> wish it would allow me to fix wifi though
[09:10] <Tm_T> smoke2k: you really should clean your takl
[09:10] <smoke2k> maybe i just need command line reference for that
[09:10] <smoke2k> I think I actually pasted the two google pages I found
[09:10] <smoke2k> my vocabulary is rather inept for this
[09:10] <smoke2k> but that is beside the point I suppose
[09:11] <jussi01> !enter | smoke2k
[09:11] <ubotu> smoke2k: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:11] <smoke2k> my computer nerd talent has been being geared back up for deployment
[09:12] <Freddy2> hi
[09:13] <ejupin> I'm trying to use Skype with my usb microphone. But it doesnt work, any ideas?
[09:13] <jussi01> !hi | Freddy2
[09:13] <ubotu> Freddy2: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:13] <jussi01> ejupin: do you have the device selected in skype settings?
[09:13] <eternal_p> trippen: why not go vanilla kernel and build everything from scratch
[09:13] <ejupin> jussi01:yes
[09:13] <Graham> ejupin: Does it work anyway?
[09:13] <Graham> Like, not in skype?
[09:14] <Skyblast> ejupin: Did you go to Tools > Options and select it in Sound Devices
[09:14] <ejupin> Graham:yes, works..and works in xp skype
[09:14] <WillLuongo> Has anyone had success in getting a linksys pci wifi card working in Kubuntu/
[09:14] <lettuce> I installed Kubuntu on my sister's dell laptop, but it can't acces the internet. Are there any special dell network card drivers that I can get? Or is it just hopeless?
[09:14] <Graham> Windows skype is quite different from Linux skype, they took all the fucking features out of it!!!
[09:14] <ejupin> Skyblast: thought so, i will check again
[09:14] <ejupin> graham:yeah i know that :)
[09:15] <snowdonkey> They took features out of the windows version or linux one?
[09:15] <ejupin> snowdonkey:linux
[09:15] <Graham> Linux.
[09:15] <snowdonkey> ah, thanks.
[09:15] <Graham> Seriously you can do all sorts of funky stuff on Windows, and they're such ASSHOLES on Linux!
[09:15] <Skyblast> !language
[09:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:16] <ejupin> graham: i love the windows version, use it all the time for business
[09:16] <jussi01> lettuce: which card is it?
[09:16] <lettuce> no idea
[09:16] <Graham> I like skype because it's good.
[09:16] <elvirolo> hi
[09:16] <Skyblast> I think the Mac version of Skype is the worst of them all
[09:16] <elvirolo> is there a guide somewhere about installing compiz on kde ?
[09:16] <Graham> I can call people, well better than MSN and their acronoun soup.
[09:16] <anon32> skype = fail...
[09:16] <anon32> !compiz | elvirolo
[09:16] <ubotu> elvirolo: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:16] <Graham> anon32: Negative, meatstick.
[09:17] <jussi01> lettuce: you need to find that out, I would imagine its broadcomm, and thats a pain
[09:17] <ejupin> skyblast:i agree, a business associate tries to use it on a mac and complains all the time
[09:17] <Graham> Is the mac version any better?
[09:17] <elvirolo> anon32: thank you :)
[09:17] <smoke2k> wow that sux because I am about to use skype for mac
[09:17] <smoke2k> I am going to put speak easy on it
[09:17] <jussi01> Graham: have you seen gizmo - its great!!
[09:17] <smoke2k> If i have to could I run skype through wine?>
[09:17] <Skyblast> The Mac version is a little disorganized and seems to be missing a few features as well
[09:17] <Graham> jussi01: What the hell is gizmo?
[09:18] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[09:18] <ejupin> smoke2k:the mac version doesnt even allow you to initiate a conference call, and we use that all the time, i have to start it with windows
[09:18] <Skyblast> yes, and if you are in a skypecast or call where you have to ask permission to talk, you literally CAN'T on the Mac client. There's no request to talk button
[09:18] <jussi01> Graham: http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[09:18] <smoke2k> yea my friends used to hack conference calls
[09:18] <Whiz2> midi doesn't work on my system. any ideas?
[09:18] <smoke2k> back in the day
[09:19] <Graham> Why is it better than skype?
[09:19] <smoke2k> this mac version is indigenous to kubuntu for ppc we aren't speaking of skype for mac
[09:20] <jussi01> Graham: free calls to landlines for one?
[09:20] <Whiz2> can someone help me? midi sounds don't seem to work, but other sounds do.
[09:21] <Graham> jussi01: Tempting.
[09:21] <yaccin> Inexpensive add-ons that let you make and receive calls from any mobile phone or landline
[09:21] <yaccin> @jussi1
[09:21] <yaccin> 01
[09:21] <Graham> Skype has that.
[09:21] <yaccin> landline calls are not free
[09:21] <yaccin> neither with skype nor with gizmo
[09:21] <Graham>  Inexpensive add-ons that let you make and receive calls from any mobile phone or landline
[09:21] <yaccin> ^^
[09:21] <Graham> I said skype has that.
[09:21] <yaccin> [21:21]  <jussi01> Graham: free calls to landlines for one?
[09:22] <spitwise> yo -- what command shows me my default gateway ip?
[09:22] <jussi01> yaccin: i call my brother for free all the time...
[09:22] <spitwise> ifconfig ain't tellin me
[09:22] <llutz> spitwise: route -n
[09:22] <spitwise> sweet tnx
[09:22] <yaccin> jussi01: its not landline then...
[09:23] <voidmage> Anyone else disappointed with the new features gnome gets as opposed to kde?
[09:23] <anon32> Gnome has features?
[09:23] <voidmage> erm
[09:23] <imagine> lol
[09:23] <voidmage> things that ubuntu put in
[09:23] <voidmage> like restricted-manager and easycodecs
[09:23] <jussi01> yaccin: it certainly is!!!!!
[09:23] <voidmage> that kind of stuff
[09:23] <yaccin> anon32: LOL
[09:23] <yaccin> jussi01: o.O
[09:23] <yaccin> voidmage: i dont need those :P
[09:23] <anon32> voidmage, meh, restricted-manager doesn't work and I don't use gstreamer
[09:23] <anon32> so it's kind of a null point
[09:24] <yaccin> voidmage: just installed nvidia-glx-new and libxine-extracodecs
[09:24] <yaccin> :P
[09:24] <voidmage> good enoughthen
[09:24] <voidmage> :P
[09:24] <jussi01> yaccin:
[09:24] <jussi01> Call those contacts on
[09:24] <jussi01> Gizmo, their mobile phone
[09:24] <jussi01> or landline for free*
[09:24] <yaccin> what says the * ?
[09:24] <yaccin> :
[09:24] <yaccin> :P
[09:24] <jussi01> yaccin: we need to take this offtopic....
[09:26] <Graham> Gizmo will cost money, it costs to call landlines.
[09:26] <Graham> Do you pay for signing up?
[09:26] <jussi01> Graham: no
[09:27] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[09:27] <Graham> So you're telling me, I can download and sign up for gizmo and phone a landline say... in the US and it'll cost me absolutely nothing?
[09:28] <Pete_> Im pretty sure its free to sign up still, but to call lines it costs
[09:28] <Graham> I shall try.
[09:28] <epimeth> what was the i915 package?
[09:29] <Pete_> not all that suitable if you have other contacts on skype I guess, but if you are using it for calling out im sure its fine
[09:29] <iga> hello
[09:29] <Graham> I'll try it, thing is everybody I know I've tried to get on skype from MSN, now I'll be getting them on gizmo from skype.
[09:29] <iga> can i ask a question
[09:29] <iga> ?
[09:30] <Graham> iga: No, go home.
[09:30] <iga> :)
[09:30] <iga> why?
[09:30] <Graham> Of course you can ask a question you turnip, it's a help channel!
[09:31] <iga> where can i get some softwave?
[09:31] <WillLuongo> iga did you try Adept?
[09:32] <Graham> jussi01: You didn't answer :P
[09:32] <iga> what do  you meen?
[09:32] <WillLuongo> iga: If you go to the menu, then system, then adept you can search for software in precompiled packages
[09:32] <WillLuongo> it is very easy to install things this way
[09:33] <smoke2k> well folks
[09:33] <smoke2k> :(
[09:33] <Graham> What is softwave?
[09:33] <smoke2k> cann't seem to get wifi to work
[09:33] <iga> oh thanx
[09:33] <smoke2k> i got ndiswrapper from synaptic
[09:33] <smoke2k> it still didn't get it to work
[09:33] <Graham> Then you should be in #ubuntu :P
[09:34] <smoke2k> i guess i should have tried to do all this before wiping my mac out
[09:34] <iga> WillLuongo thanx
[09:34] <WillLuongo> iga you are very welcome
[09:34] <Graham> jussi01: Oi! Gizmo isn't working!
[09:35] <Graham> Wait it's done now.
[09:35] <smoke2k> Search out the section "InputDevice" under which Driver is set to "synaptics", comment the whole section out or delete it, and paste the following to its place:
[09:35] <stoft> !beryl
[09:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:35] <smoke2k> where is this?
[09:35] <Graham> !skype
[09:35] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:35] <Graham> !gizmo
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <Graham> !women because I am sad.
[09:36] <Graham> Awww.... bot abuse.
[09:36] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[09:36] <Graham> yaccin: Are you there? Does Gizmo have the same features in Windows as it does in Linux?
[09:37] <yaccin> i dont know
[09:37] <yaccin> i dont use gizmo
[09:38] <Graham> This gizmo account maker is being really shitty.
[09:46] <Graham> Awesome, I phones myself with gizmo for free.
[09:46] <Graham> Sounds like a marketing ploy.
[09:46] <kaner_> is there a way to "boost" the mic?  When i record something it sounds very very very faint
[09:47] <Graham> Turn mic volume up.
[09:48] <llutz> kaner_: switch on mic-boost in your mixer
[09:48] <wolferine> llutz, still working on it:/
[09:49] <wolferine> think you can give me a bit more time?
[09:49] <llutz> wolferine: don't give up! :)
[09:49] <llutz> wolferine: sure
[09:49] <dell190> how can i put the firefox icon in the K-menu
[09:49] <wolferine> http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/webcam_logitech_msn?s=amsn
[09:49] <wolferine> i was using this a reference
[09:49] <wolferine> but I have an issue with make all
[09:49] <wolferine> my device is: 046D:08F5
[09:49] <wolferine> just about hafl way down the page
[09:50] <wolferine> im trying not to, but I am almost at the end :/
[09:50] <wolferine> ill paste the make all in pastebin
[09:50] <wolferine> brb
[09:50] <kaner_> llutz: did, is there anyway to boost it more?
[09:50] <kaner_> the mike works properly in windoze
[09:50] <kaner_> er mic
[09:50] <llutz> kaner_: use win :)
[09:51] <kaner_> well i dont have a windows installation anymore
[09:51] <kaner_> havent for years
[09:51] <wolferine> llutz: http://pastebin.ca/464914
[09:51] <msak007> hey everybody
[09:51] <kaner_> but i tested the mic on a buddies comp
[09:51] <epimeth> what was the i915 package?   EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!FUCK YOU!!! EAT SHIT!!
[09:52] <wolferine> llutz, how would I do so?
[09:53] <llutz> wolferine: sudo aptitude install linux-kernel-header-$(uname -r)
[09:53] <pestilence> newsletter...subscribe...thx
[09:53] <jovans> does fesity use swap?
[09:53] <wolferine> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-kernel-header-2.6.20-15-generic"
[09:53] <anon32> yes
[09:53] <pestilence> jovans: it can
[09:53] <epimeth> llutz: cheers :-)
[09:53] <jovans> i have read something about vm.swappiness=
[09:53] <anon32> jovans, please, when you find an OS that can't use swap, come back :-)
[09:54] <jovans> feisty don't use my swap it only use my RAM
[09:54] <llutz> wolferine: sudo aptitude install linux-kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:54] <fdoving> jovans: yes, it uses swap. you can adjust how swappy it is with the sappiness.
[09:54] <msak007> anybody using kmail in feisty?
[09:54] <llutz> jovans: fine
[09:54] <pestilence> !anybody
[09:54] <jussi01> !anyone | msak007
[09:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:54] <ubotu> msak007: please see above
[09:55] <jovans> i have add vm.swappiness=100 to /etc/sysctl.conf and reboot but fesity use either my RAM
[09:55] <wolferine> nothing
[09:55] <msak007> sorry
[09:55] <wolferine> how about I just give you my uname -r :/
[09:55] <pestilence> !sorry
[09:55] <wolferine> 2.6.20-15-generic
[09:55] <wolferine> lol
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <pestilence> :-D
[09:55] <llutz> wolferine: sry, too late today. next try: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:55] <shyboy> guys is there a fix for wifi bcm43xx ?
[09:55] <msak007> well i have a problem with kmail that started with feisty...any email that comes directly into an inbox (not filtered into another folder through a POP filter) comes in as "Unknown" for the sender
[09:55] <jovans> enxone a idea?
[09:55] <WillLuongo> I can't get wifi working on a Linksys PCI card. Is it possible at all? If so, how difficult is it and can anyone help me?
[09:56] <fdoving> jovans: how much ram?
[09:56] <wolferine> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[09:56] <wolferine> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:56] <jovans> 1 GB
[09:56] <wolferine> already installed llutz
[09:56] <msak007> subject is blank, body is blank, and date is 12/13/69
[09:56] <wolferine> as I had suspected
[09:56] <llutz> wolferine: locate config.h
[09:57] <fdoving> jovans: should start to use some swap after running for a while.
[09:57] <smoke2k> llutz
[09:57] <jovans> it cannot be activated to use on start some swap?
[09:57] <smoke2k> i am havin trouble still
[09:57] <wolferine> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic/include/config/x86/find/smp/config.h
[09:57] <smoke2k> i need to find help with
[09:57] <smoke2k> 0001:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[09:57] <smoke2k>         Subsystem: Apple Computer Inc. Unknown device 4318
[09:57] <smoke2k>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 16, IRQ 52
[09:57] <smoke2k>         Memory at 80084000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
[09:57] <wolferine> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic/include/config/i2o/config.h
[09:57] <wolferine> thats about the only meaningful ones
[09:58] <llutz> wolferine: line 16 in your paste
[09:58] <shyboy> smoke2k: you have the same problem as me
[09:58] <fdoving> jovans: using memory triggers swapping at some point. there is no need to swap if there is enought memory to do everything you want and then some.
[09:58] <shyboy> smoke2k: I also need a solution to that problem
[09:58] <fdoving> jovans: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management#Swappiness_.282.6_kernels.29
[09:58] <smoke2k> well good we are one in unison
[09:58] <smoke2k> how much googling have you been up to ?
[09:58] <llutz> smoke2k: broadcom, crap
[09:58] <WillLuongo> smoke2k I think I am in a similar boat
[09:58] <shyboy> smoke2k: well I have just started
[09:59] <shyboy> smoke2k: seen some tips on ubuntu forums
[09:59] <wolferine> llutz, like it said, there isnt one
[09:59] <os2mac> broadcom should work in Kubuntu.
[09:59] <smoke2k> i have found help if i had airport extreme
[09:59] <smoke2k> but i don't
[09:59] <smoke2k> :(
[09:59] <smoke2k> have you tried all your forums help?
[09:59] <shyboy> llutz: well crap or not it came with freaking laptop so I am kinda stuck with it
[09:59] <WillLuongo> smoke2k shyboy I found this, haven't tried it yet: http://forums.windrivers.com/archive/index.php/t-67640.html
[09:59] <os2mac> smoke2k: what kind of computer do you have
[09:59] <os2mac> !ndiswrapper
[09:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:59] <smoke2k> i have a mac g4
[09:59] <jovans> thx
[10:00] <WillLuongo> it is also a broadcom chipset
[10:00] <smoke2k> yea this thing is inside my computer
[10:00] <shyboy> WillLuongo: looking ..thanks
[10:00] <os2mac> !broadcom
[10:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:00] <wolferine> http://pastebin.ca/464927
[10:00] <wolferine> that my locate config.h
[10:01] <Windows2000XPVIS> linux zealots keep banning me
[10:01] <Windows2000XPVIS> rude ppl
[10:01] <llutz> wolferine: guess you'll need the kernel-sources (README in qc-messen....)
[10:01] <Lynoure> Windows2000XPVIS: Did you have a support question?
[10:01] <shyboy> I posted error regarding this card before faisty hit stable and guys didnt fix it
[10:01] <shyboy> very odd
[10:02] <Windows2000XPVIS> Lynoure:  actually i have answer for wolferine
[10:02] <hagabaka> is there no kmenu entry for kwrite by default?
[10:02] <Windows2000XPVIS> symbolic link has to be created
[10:02] <Lynoure> :)
[10:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> does anybody know how to install using dmraid?
[10:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> and alternate cd
[10:03] <adaptr> set up partitions as linux raid, then create partitions in LVM
[10:03] <adaptr> us ethe normal CD
[10:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> no i have windows partitions
[10:03] <anon32> !fakeraid
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <Windows2000XPVIS> no can do
[10:03] <anon32> ..
[10:04] <Windows2000XPVIS> but dmraid works in suse and fedora...
[10:04] <stoft> anyone here have experience migrating seti@home data from win to linux?
[10:07] <spitwise> The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-powerpc linux-restricted-modules-powerpc
[10:07] <aro> !rar
[10:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:08] <aro> !info unrar-free
[10:08] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:09] <smoke2k> wow this is a complete disaster
[10:09] <smoke2k> so pretty much this thing won't work with my wifi card
[10:09] <smoke2k> everywhere says to use ndiswrapper
[10:10] <jussi01> smoke2k: it should, you need to use ndiswrapper
[10:10] <neonlinux> morning all, anyone know whats running in kde that passes settings to gtk for themes?
[10:10] <Windows2000XPVIS> smoke2k: nothing wrong iwth it
[10:10] <smoke2k> i have got ndiswrapper
[10:10] <smoke2k> guy already said in here that it won't work
[10:10] <shyboy> smoke2k: well you need to use ndiswrraper ..hunting for a good howto
[10:11] <aro> Which wireless card do you have
[10:11] <shyboy> aro lspci reports bcm43xx and smoke2 has the same
[10:11] <llutz> wolferine: try to edit the file "quickcam.h" and change all "linux/config.h" into "linux/autoconf.h"
[10:11] <d0uglas> hi.. url for ipodding? and what's the name of that reverse-engineered itunes so my mom can pay for her music?
[10:11] <smoke2k> what puts the icing on the cake here is that my mouse won't barely move
[10:12] <Arwen> d0uglas, iTunes is evil, stay away from it
[10:12] <smoke2k> i have just wasted two days with this
[10:12] <smoke2k> yea itunes blows
[10:12] <shyboy> aro do yoy have any url for me that can help me fix this firmware issue
[10:12] <smoke2k> i was just gripping about that earlier
[10:12] <d0uglas> Arwen: okay.. so... how can my mom use linux and pay for music
[10:12] <d0uglas> relatively legally
[10:12] <d0uglas> or is that impossible
[10:12] <shyboy> d0uglas: learn your mom to use torrent :D
[10:12] <Arwen> there's magnatune, but really, since labels like DRM, you won't find any big name songs
[10:13] <Arwen> d0uglas, ^^
[10:13] <d0uglas> she already knows bittorrent .. gtk-gnutella too
[10:13] <d0uglas> she can't even use a cell phone but she knows that
[10:13] <wolferine> llutz, k, ill give it a try
[10:13] <Arwen> d0uglas, allofmp3.com? it's not at all legal, but it involves paying...
[10:13] <shyboy> d0uglas: cool mom I'd say :D ...so whats the problem anyway ..she can save $$ now
[10:14] <smoke2k> i messaged you shyboy
[10:14] <d0uglas> cool mom? how about cool son to rig it up kde to make her tansition from msft to linux happily
[10:14] <shyboy> smoke2k: you did ? I don't see nothing
[10:14] <d0uglas> s/happily/happy
[10:15] <shyboy> d0uglas: yeah... its your mom dude ..MANDATORY ;D
[10:15] <d0uglas> True.
[10:15] <d0uglas> maybe if i install linux on her phone she'll start using it
[10:15] <shyboy> smoke2k: I see no window with your prv msg ?!
[10:16] <Thorazine> Is there a Kubuntu Mobile :)
[10:16] <Windows2000XPVIS> yes
[10:16] <shyboy> d0uglas: he he ..that would be cool..all though I am in love with lates HTC phone running win 6.0
[10:17] <d0uglas> shyboy: when is htc gonna make a quad band vga qwerty slide out
[10:17] <smoke2k> sorry shyboy it didn't send
[10:17] <d0uglas> ie the universal plus the 850mhz range
[10:17] <smoke2k> i have to be registered or something
[10:17] <root> hola
[10:17] <spahija> smoke2k: well I am ..changed nick
[10:17] <neonlinux> so no ideas on what passes theme settings in kde to gtk?
[10:17] <wolferine> llutz, didnt work
[10:17] <spahija> smoke2k: paste it here please
[10:18] <smoke2k> just trying to make sure you stay in contact with me
[10:18] <smoke2k> because i need this fixed on top of mouse problems
[10:18] <smoke2k> this is serious problem
[10:18] <d0uglas> shyboy: your buy/sell/hold rating on htc's stock?
[10:18] <spahija> d0uglas: changed nick to spahija...and no I have no stocks ( I wish I had )
[10:19] <payam> hi
[10:19] <d0uglas> spahija: not asking if you own any, just wondering if you think it's a good investment
[10:19] <payam> What the hell shoul i do to download and install Wine?
[10:19] <spahija> d0uglas: ahh..sure... they are strong on market right now
[10:19] <Thorazine> sudo apt-get install wine
[10:20] <blekos> hi i'm looking for a frewware soft with gui for backup with advanced option. That is multiple backup jobs, incremental backups, de/ select folders etc
[10:20] <Thorazine> payam: before that: sudo apt-get update, of course
[10:20] <spahija> smoke2k: how about that link man ?
[10:20] <blekos> smg like Backup Exec
[10:20] <d0uglas> You know what I could do without? exit confirmation dialogs
[10:20] <payam> What should i do now?
[10:20] <d0uglas> we should phase them out or set them off by default
[10:20] <spahija> d0uglas: they are kinda informative dont you think ;)
[10:21] <payam> kubuntu-se
[10:21] <d0uglas> my alt-f4 command should be informative to the program
[10:21] <payam> CA you connect me to Kubuntu-se?
[10:21] <spahija> payam: hva er du snakker om ?
[10:21] <d0uglas> at least i got control alt backspace, that's pretty responsive
[10:21] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[10:21] <payam> Vill installera Wine
[10:22] <payam> kan du koppla upp mig till kubuntu -se
[10:22] <payam> Har glmt hur man gjorde
[10:22] <Pete_> wolferine: I'ver used one, except it was UVC
[10:22] <smoke2k> how come i cann't find vlc in synaptic manager
[10:22] <payam> #kubuntu-se
[10:22] <smoke2k> where is it
[10:22] <smoke2k> or what is it listed under
[10:22] <blekos> hi i'm looking for a frewware soft with gui for backup with advanced option. That is multiple backup jobs, incremental backups, de/ select folders etc
[10:22] <anon32> !repositories | smoke2k
[10:22] <ubotu> smoke2k: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:22] <Black_Cat> payam, /join #kubuntu-se
[10:22] <spahija> payam: look up
[10:23] <Thorazine> vlc is in multiverse or universe I think, check if those are enabled
[10:23] <wolferine> Pete_, what is UVC?
[10:23] <Pete_> usb video device class, similar in a way to usb mass storage device class
[10:24] <Pete_> (Only a few of the newer logitech cams support it)
[10:24] <bobstro> spahija: yes, i just did it in fact.. hang on
[10:24] <spahija> bobstro: sure m8..pass it to me..will ya
[10:24] <bobstro> spahija: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=ndiswrapper+dell
[10:25] <wolferine> Pete_, so you know a thing or two about how USB works with devices?
[10:25] <bobstro> spahija: i just followed it to get my dell d420 going in about 10 minutes with wpa/psk
[10:25] <spahija> bobstro: excellent...testing
[10:25] <michael> anyone know how to get nvidia drivers to work with feisty?
[10:25] <wolferine> michael, yes
[10:25] <Pete_> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[10:25] <Pete_> wolferine: not really ;)
[10:25] <michael> do you have feisty?
[10:26] <Pete_> Yes
[10:26] <wolferine> Pete_, what type of cams are you using?
[10:26] <TheCreationist> How would I go about installing Beryl without using a 3rd party repository?
[10:26] <wolferine> TheCreationist, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:27] <TheCreationist> wolferine: Thanks
[10:27] <wolferine> np
[10:27] <michael> ok, well that command along with the enable command stoped kde from booting up and I had to reconfig xorg
[10:27] <wolferine> michael, so installing the drivers isnt the real question then
[10:28] <anon32> omg, wine is so cool! it can run minesweeper!
[10:28] <michael> I dont understand why it isnt working
[10:28] <Pete_> and notepad too
[10:28] <michael> I guess the real question is......   Is Feisty stable enough to be on my pc?    lol
[10:28] <anon32> michael, lol
[10:28] <Gamic> Feisty is very stable
[10:28] <Pete_> wolferine: only one of them is logitech, the rest are cheap ones which all work with the spca driver
[10:29] <wolferine> working great =! stable
[10:29] <wolferine> btw
[10:29] <anon32> OMG, wine can run minesweeper at... native speed!
[10:29] <michael> well, you tell me what to do (if you dont mind) and I will do it
[10:29] <wolferine> yeah, whats the model of the logitech, which is i imagine using the spca driver?
[10:29] <confrey> hi everybody
[10:29] <Gamic> anon32, wine is not an emulator, so yes it would
[10:30] <anon32> Gamic, hehe
[10:30] <michael> I installed feisty late last night
[10:30] <luca> good day to everyone
[10:30] <wolferine> hey luca
[10:30] <michael> g'day
[10:30] <Pete_> wolferine: oh no the logitech webcam doesn't use the spca driver. I have to go now, sorry. Have a look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Webcam-HOWTO/index.html
[10:30] <luca> does anyone know how to install ie6 WITHOUT using ie4linux?
[10:30] <luca> hi wolferine, michael :)
[10:31] <michael> do you have time? wolferine
[10:31] <Black_Cat> anon32, minesweeper is not that resource-demanding... let me know if you run something like Unreal Tournament :))
[10:31] <anon32> Black_Cat, heh, you can run UT with software rendering :-)
[10:31] <Grape_Juice> lol minesweeper
[10:31] <anon32> so it's also not that demanding
[10:32] <Grape_Juice> Dude, MineSweeper takes like....3 Gb of DDR RAM and 7 Gb of hard drive space!
[10:32] <anon32> ..
[10:32] <Grape_Juice> I'm sorry, I'm just weird like that. :<
[10:32] <anon32> Grape_Juice, DDR is old :-) It's all about that DDR-II
[10:32] <confrey> hi, how can I have flsh plugin in konqueror?
[10:32] <Grape_Juice> DDR3 ftw. :D
[10:33] <Black_Cat> anon32, in native speed? 8-|
[10:33] <Grape_Juice> Well, I have 1.25 Gb of DDR in this laptop.  It does it's job fine. :)
[10:33] <anon32> Black_Cat, lol, UT has a pretty solid software engine - you can run it in ReactOS
[10:33] <spahija> bobstro: dude...this works
[10:33] <Grape_Juice> Wish i could test run DDR2 and 3 though...
[10:34] <adaptr> I have a core 2 duo with ddr2-667
[10:34] <adaptr> it plays nice
[10:34] <wolferine> no sorry, michael i do not have the time
[10:35] <nicu_> #romania
[10:35] <nicu_> ./#romania
[10:35] <michael> ok thanks anyway, but you do have 3d accelration enabled?
[10:35] <Black_Cat> jeez... i'll keep that in mind, anon32... got to try that some day :)
[10:35] <anon32> Black_Cat, hehe, have fun maxing out your Core 2 Duos to run UT at 640x480
[10:37] <netshare> Is it possible to run JetAudio on linux? under wine for example?
[10:37] <hume> hi....is there any kde/kubuntu program to rotate the screen?
[10:37] <llutz> hume: xrandr
[10:37] <netshare> manual monitor rotate :D
[10:37] <sasq> Uhm sorry but where do I manage filetypes and which programs to handle which type ?
[10:37] <michael> lol
[10:38] <sasq> It used to be in system settings, cant find it there now
[10:38] <michael> thats how I do it
[10:38] <anon32> netshare, winehq gives jetaudio a "silver" rating
[10:38] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[10:38] <netshare> winehq is the same as wine?
[10:38] <netshare> and whats silver rating?
[10:38] <hume> llutz, ok, i know of xrandr - but xrandr -o right just gives me errors...is there no kde frontend?
[10:38] <anon32> netshare, winehq is wine's homepage, and silver means it mostly works
[10:38] <llutz> hume: krandr? not sure
[10:39] <Black_Cat> hume,  hmm. it can be set up in display properties afaik
[10:39] <netshare> anon32 ok thx i will go and check it out. i want to use it becausse it has the best sound
[10:40] <anon32> speaking of sound, wine's sound drivers are pretty dodgy, it won't have "the best sound" in wine
[10:40] <hume> Black_Cat, no such option here - does that mean that the driver (nv) does not support rotate?
[10:41] <Black_Cat> yeah that might be the case
[10:42] <adaptr> it doesn not, indeed, support xv extensions
[10:43] <smoke2k> ok i cann't find any packages i need
[10:43] <smoke2k> i updated my apt get
[10:43] <netshare> anon32 so the sound also depends on wine? :(:(:( :'(:'(:'(
[10:43] <smoke2k> i just want to put vlc and nautilus and few other programs on here
[10:43] <smoke2k> like wine
[10:43] <anon32> netshare, yes, and wine's sound support is iffy
[10:44] <smoke2k> synaptic and add and remove programs doesn't seem to have it
[10:44] <anon32> smoke2k, you need to enable the extra repositories...
[10:44] <anon32> !universe | smoke2k
[10:44] <ubotu> smoke2k: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:44] <netshare> anon32 :( i like jet audios sound so much :(
[10:44] <anon32> it's all about foobar2000 for me :-\
[10:45] <netshare> anon32, just try out jetaudio, u will change to it ;)
[10:45] <anon32> na, I'm ok
[10:45] <smoke2k> cool i just read through this too fast
[10:45] <anon32> :-)
[10:45] <smoke2k> trying to whirl wind it
[10:45] <anon32> smoke2k, oh yeah, on Linux, mplayer is better than VLC
[10:45] <netshare> anon32 BBE effects are also awesome
[10:45] <smoke2k> are you serious vlc is pretty good
[10:45] <smoke2k> ?
[10:45] <anon32> smoke2k, yeah, mplayer > vlc
[10:46] <anon32> it supports subtitles :-)
[10:46] <smoke2k> nice
[10:47] <netshare> well i think, i wont use linux for listetning to music, only when i must use linux :)
[10:47] <netshare> Windows power :D:D:D:D
[10:47] <anon32> netshare, how can one media player produce better sound than another? that's what I wanna know..
[10:47] <smoke2k> no wonder this didn't work
[10:47] <smoke2k> my adept package manager looks nothing like this one
[10:48] <netshare> anon32 just try out JetAudio and you will hear it yourself!
[10:48] <smoke2k> could i update my packages on synaptic too?
[10:48] <anon32> smoke2k, a package manager is a package manager :-\
[10:48] <Black_Cat> anon32, that IS possible, because sound quality depends on engine used by player.
[10:48] <anon32> they're both frontends to apt-get
[10:48] <anon32> Black_Cat, eh? elaborate
[10:48] <smoke2k> all my adept has is a quit button
[10:48] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[10:49] <smoke2k> this package manager is in dapper drake
[10:49] <smoke2k> i am using edgy i am pretty sure
[10:49] <smoke2k> all it has is quit buttom
[10:49] <smoke2k> :(
[10:50] <anon32> smoke2k, your package manager can't be "in" a distro...
[10:50] <anon32> I'm telling you, they have the same list of packages available
[10:51] <stoeptegel> What key combination would be win+KP_subtract?
[10:51] <smoke2k> i figured each distro has diffrent packages
[10:51] <smoke2k> hence having software indigenous to each one
[10:51] <smoke2k> haha wait
[10:52] <smoke2k> maybe i am doing this wrong
[10:52] <anon32> yes...
[10:52] <anon32> maybe...
[10:52] <netshare> anon32, so are you insatlling jetauio now,?
[10:52] <bonbonthejon> stoeptegel: KP_subtract would be the subtract key on the keypad
[10:53] <anon32> netshare, nope lol
[10:53] <anon32> amarok is good enough for me
[10:53] <stoeptegel> bonbonthejon: and what if the keyboard doesn't has a keypad?
[10:53] <bonbonthejon> stoeptegel: I guess try reassigning, I have the same problem with my laptop
[10:53] <stoeptegel> :)
[10:54] <netshare> anon32 but i mean on win. you said you want to know how could another player have a better sound than other
[10:54] <netshare> anon32 jet audio will show you (to your ears)
[10:54] <anon32> blah, I don't really care - my favorites song is the super mario theme :-\
[10:55] <netshare> anon32 sometimes i listen to chip musics :) dubmood is very cool :)
[10:55] <netshare> www.keygenmusic.com
[10:55] <anon32> lol, keygen music
[10:55] <Black_Cat> :)))
[10:55] <anon32> but it redirects to learnguitar.com
[10:56] <netshare> there are  some very nice melodies, not only stupid electric sound
[10:56] <Plextor> hi, how can i see how much space i've got left on hard drive in the console?
[10:56] <bonbonthejon> Plextor: df -h
[10:56] <Plextor> thnx
[10:56] <jbrouhard> Plextor: df -h
[10:56] <jbrouhard> doh
[10:57] <bonbonthejon> jbrouhard: :)
[10:57] <nu> evening
[11:03] <stoeptegel> netshare: stop spamming...
[11:03] <smoke2k> after all this effort i am just getting the newest version of feisty
[11:04] <smoke2k> I don't know whether to be happy or not
[11:04] <smoke2k> I just want my programs
[11:05] <xst> After upgrading to feisty I can no longer add share (samba) a folder: When I click the "Add" button, enter the path and press "OK", nothing happens.
[11:13] <nuu> xst: using what tool ?
[11:13] <nuu> are you sure you run it as root ?
[11:13] <xst> I use konqueror. Rightclick on the folder > properties > Share > ...
[11:15] <Black_Cat> xst, hmm... kdesu konqueror?
[11:15] <nuu> does it request an authentication password when you try to share ?
[11:17] <xst> It requests a password when I start the "sharing manager". I enter my own password and it proceeds just fine. However, when I have entered the path to be shared and press OK, the path is not appended to the shown list of shared dirs
[11:19] <nuu> try opening ksystemlog from your system menu, and see if you notice anything there
[11:20] <varaonaid> Hi, I'm having problems iwth my kubuntu shutdown.  I get very strange things happening with my screen: flashing lines, green screen, or flashing "e"s and it almost never completes the shutdown process.  I've updated the bios but no effect.
[11:20] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[11:20] <xst> nuu: nope, nothing odd in the logs
[11:21] <nuu> have you tried sharing the directory manually ? ie by editing /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[11:21] <Tm_T> wolferine: mine is working perfectly
[11:22] <wolferine> Tm_T, what is the device listed under your lsusb ?
[11:22] <nuu> hey there wolferine
[11:23] <Tm_T> wolferine: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:0928 Logitech, Inc. Quickcam Express
[11:24] <wolferine> Tm_T, did it just plug and play?
[11:24] <Tm_T> wolferine: sure
[11:24] <wolferine> or did you need to set it up?
[11:24] <xst> nuu: editing smb.conf manually works just fine
[11:24] <Tm_T> yes, I needed to comb my hair
[11:25] <wolferine> Tm_T, ?
[11:25] <Tm_T> wolferine: well, would you show your face in webcam without combing your hair?
[11:25] <wolferine> Tm_T, did you just plug it in, and it worked ?
[11:25] <Graham> yaccin: Hey, you there?
[11:26] <nuu> depends. ever heard of cyber porn ?
[11:26] <nuu> you don' t need to comb your hair for that
[11:26] <nuu> of course you may argue that it's not your face you're showing
[11:26] <Tm_T> wolferine: yes
[11:26] <hsystem-x> I have a question...
[11:27] <wolferine> Tm_t thanks
[11:27] <nuu> xst: this used to work in previous versions of kubuntu ?
[11:27] <payam> Can I installl AutoCAD if i install Wine before?
[11:27] <hsystem-x> WHy in feisty i CAN'T log in through console?
[11:27] <nuu> hsystem-x: you can
[11:28] <hsystem-x> well i can. It says that my password is wrong.
[11:28] <nuu> what makes you think you can't ?
[11:28] <hsystem-x> can't ***********
[11:28] <nuu> hm, then perhaps you can't remember your password
[11:28] <xst> nuu: Yep. In edgy it worked just fine
[11:28] <hsystem-x> well im logged in...
[11:28] <hsystem-x> but i can't do console login.
[11:29] <nuu> using the same user you use to logon to kde ?
[11:29] <hsystem-x> yup
[11:29] <xst> nuu: yes
[11:29] <nuu> hsystem-x: open a terminal, and type echo $SHELL
[11:29] <hsystem-x> en edgy and dapper it worked excellent...
[11:29] <hsystem-x> in*
[11:29] <hsystem-x> ok
[11:30] <hsystem-x> nothing happen...
[11:30] <nuu> i see
[11:30] <nuu> type
[11:30] <nuu> sudo chsh <your_username>
[11:31] <hsystem-x> what you want me do type: SHELL or $SHELL ? . Shell give me an error, "this commands doesn't exist, and $shell do nothing.... i belive you want me to type shell.
[11:31] <hsystem-x> ok ...
[11:31] <hsystem-x> to*
[11:31] <nuu> no, i meant $SHELL
[11:31] <hsystem-x> well, then nothing happen...
[11:31] <nuu> ok
[11:31] <nuu> did you run chsh ?
[11:31] <nuu> the next command i pasted
[11:31] <blekos> i dont get it, what's the meaning of using sudo, since you actually use ur own psswd and cann mess up the whole system?
[11:32] <blekos> any user could delete important files by just typing hes/her psswd
[11:32] <nuu> nope blekos, not ANY user
[11:32] <nuu> just those who are allowed to use sudo ;)
[11:32] <sunnyhours> !nvidia
[11:32] <hsystem-x> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
[11:32] <hsystem-x>         Login Shell [/bin/bash] :
[11:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:32] <nuu> press ENTER hsystem-x
[11:32] <blekos> would u mine explaining?
[11:33] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[11:33] <nuu> blekos: you, as main user of the system, are member of the group "admin"
[11:33] <blekos> if i log in as xxx and then in terminal i sudo ... then i can do what i want
[11:33] <mat1980> i have a quickcam express working well
[11:33] <nuu> if you're in that group, you're granted the privilege to escalate your user level to root
[11:33] <wolferine> mat1980, just plug and play?
[11:33] <hsystem-x> !chsh
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chsh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <hsystem-x> what does chsh command do?
[11:34] <nuu> that is decided by the /etc/sudoers file, which lists who can do what with sudo
[11:34] <nuu> now try adding a new user, and not making it a member of the admin group
[11:34] <blekos> i c, so if i create an account i should make sure its not under admin yes?
[11:34] <nuu> you'll see he can't sudo
[11:34] <nuu> indeed blekos
[11:34] <nuu> hsystem-x: changes the default shell for a user
[11:34] <wolferine> mat1980, or did you have to setup drivers, etc?
[11:35] <mat1980> wolferine, yes, just plug and play.
[11:35] <nuu> since you can't login, and echo $SHELL reports nothing, you seem to not have a default shell set for your user
[11:35] <hsystem-x> ok, that mean, that now im supposed to be able to login?
[11:35] <nuu> which theoretically chsh oughta fix
[11:35] <wolferine> mat1980, can you tell me which it is based on lsusb?
[11:35] <hsystem-x> ok
[11:35] <nuu> yes, you can try ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to a terminal, and try. when you're done trying, come back here with ctrl+alt+f7
[11:35] <blekos> so if e.g another user -not under admin- wants to install a program i will have to do it for him
[11:35] <nuu> depends on whether that program needs to be installed as root, or not
[11:36] <nuu> if it can only touch userspace resources, and install to a directory where that given user has write privileges, then he doesnt need you
[11:36] <hsystem-x> good.
[11:37] <mat1980> wolferine, I guess this is the line about my webcam, Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:092f Logitech, Inc.
[11:37] <hsystem-x> nuu: still can't log in through console.
[11:37] <blekos> isnt quite "dangerous" that the main user during installation has root privilg.?
[11:37] <nuu> for instance, a packet sniffer will not be installed as root. It needs to set your interface into promiscuous mode, and that's an administrative task. A normal user, without any rights to escalate to root, wont be able to perform it
[11:37] <wolferine> yes mat
[11:37] <wolferine> that would be it
[11:37] <nuu> blekos: how would you go about administering your own system, if not even yourself could get root on it ? :)
[11:38] <hsystem-x> nuu: still can't log in through console.
[11:38] <blekos> that is true, perhaps  it could be a different psswd for root than the having the same as your loging psswd
[11:38] <nuu> hsystem-x: from a terminal, type "which bash"
[11:38] <nuu> of course you can change it blekos
[11:38] <hsystem-x> i also assing a password to the unix system, but it won't work too...
[11:38] <nuu> on the contrary, it's extremely wise to change it
[11:39] <blekos> how do u change it?
[11:39] <nuu> just "sudo su -" to get root, and "passwd"
[11:39] <nuu> or sudo passwd, as well
[11:39] <hsystem-x> yep: sudo passwd
[11:39] <hsystem-x> nuu:
[11:39] <hsystem-x> $ which bash
[11:39] <hsystem-x> /bin/bash
[11:40] <nuu> hsystem-x: let's add a new user, and you'll try logging in from that
[11:40] <nuu> sudo adduser test
[11:40] <blekos> so, now anytime i'm asked for root psswd i'll give the new one right?
[11:41] <nuu> yup
[11:41] <blekos> great
[11:41] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[11:41] <hsystem-x> well, nuu, does this have relation with the secondary groups ?
[11:42] <sunnyhours> i'm trying to use synaptic to install the linux-restricted-modules. I have a sempron 2400+ (32bit). anyone know which package is for me?
[11:42] <blekos> so, if i create another user will he has the same progs installes as those as I have?
[11:43] <nuu> it shouldn't hsystem-x: but we should try to make sure there's nothing wrong with your user setup
[11:43] <adaptr> sunnyhours just use generic
[11:43] <sunnyhours> thanks adaptr
[11:43] <adaptr> sunnyhours regardless you MUST use the same one as your current kernel, or it won't work
[11:43] <hsystem-x> ok that unix password that it ask for the new user, it is the password for that account?
[11:43] <nuu> yes hsystem-x
[11:43] <sunnyhours> uname -r shows 2.6.17-10-386
[11:44] <nuu> put whatever password, just to try
[11:44] <nuu> then ctrl+alt+f1 and try logging in with that user's credentials
[11:44] <hsystem-x> room number, i guess it means, the id, for example 1002
[11:44] <hsystem-x> ?
[11:44] <nuu> remember, ctrl+alt+f7 to get back here
[11:44] <nuu> just hit enter hsystem-x :)
[11:44] <nuu> no need to input those infos
[11:44] <hsystem-x> ok brb
[11:45] <sunnyhours> i think the icons on the left column are confusing. i don't know what is what (download/upgrade/remove/etc)
[11:45] <hsystem-x> ok it works nuu.
[11:45] <nuu> fine, then something's wrong with the way your user is set up
[11:45] <hsystem-x> that a normal user i guess. It does not have privileges right?
[11:46] <nuu> it doesn't until you add it to the "admin" group
[11:46] <hsystem-x> ok .
[11:46] <nuu> in which case, he'll be allowed to su to root
[11:46] <nuu> (provided he knows the password)
[11:46] <nuu> if he's not in the admin group, he wont be able to su/sudo
[11:46] <nuu> anyway
[11:47] <nuu> back to your problem......what does cat /etc/passwd | grep <your_username> say ?
[11:47] <hsystem-x> well im using my default user, the one that kubuntu setup.
[11:47] <nuu> sudo cat... of course
[11:47] <hsystem-x> I used the alternate cd to install kubuntu, since i don't like the live cd ...
[11:47] <hsystem-x> does this have something to do with?
[11:47] <nuu> don't think so
[11:48] <hsystem-x> a bug?
[11:48] <sunnyhours> in synaptic, what does the icon of a green box with a yellow star in the corner mean?
[11:48] <nuu> actually, i havent tried that cd
[11:48] <nuu> but it sounds rather strange to me
[11:48] <blekos> nuu do u know any good backup program which will alow multiple backup jobs and choose directories and files?
[11:48] <mat1980> sunnyhours, it means it is upgradable
[11:48] <sunnyhours> but already installed, mat1980?
[11:48] <nuu> blekos: i wrote my own
[11:48] <nuu> but i'm sure you'll find plenty around
[11:49] <mat1980> subbyhours, yes it is already installed and there is a new version in the repository
[11:49] <sunnyhours> okay, what about just the green box? installed but not upgradable?
[11:49] <hsystem-x> what language did you used, NUU?
[11:49] <nuu> just a bash script hsystem-x
[11:49] <mat1980> sunnyhours, yes
[11:49] <nuu> nothing special
[11:49] <hsystem-x> oh k.
[11:50] <sunnyhours> thanks mat1980
[11:50] <nuu> all it does is cp, piping to tar -czvf, and stuff like that
[11:50] <mat1980> that's ok
[11:51] <sunnyhours> do linux-restricted-modules-common, and linux-restricted-modules-generic conflict with each other?
[11:51] <nuu> hsystem-x: so try cat /etc/passwd, and compare the entries of your user (the one that cant login) and the new user (the one that can)
[11:51] <nuu> do you spot any immediate differences ?
[11:51] <mat1980> sunnyhours, try, if some packages conflicts synaptic will prompt to you
[11:51] <mat1980> however I gess the don't
[11:52] <mat1980> ehm.. I misspelled... I guess thy don't
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, I
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Oops, hit enter too early
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Anyway...
[11:52] <mat1980> ehm.. I'm too tired.... I guess they don't
[11:53] <K-Ryan> I'm upgrading to Feisty Fawn
[11:53] <K-Ryan> Will the distribution upgrade tool automatically restart my system?
[11:53] <hsystem-x> well, nuu, but does are the secondary grupo
[11:53] <hsystem-x> group*
[11:54] <hsystem-x> those*
[11:54] <nuu> can you list them ?
[11:54] <nuu> type "groups"
[11:54] <sunnyhours> this looks like an awful mess mat1980. i'm not so sure this is going to work   =P
[11:54] <mat1980> K-Ryan, no it won't. You have to do by your own
[11:54] <hsystem-x> hsystem-x adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin powerdev scanner admin
[11:54] <K-Ryan> Alright, thanks.
[11:54] <nuu> now type groups <your_test_user>
[11:55] <hsystem-x> $ groups test
[11:55] <hsystem-x> test : test
[11:56] <mat1980> sunnyhours, my system has both packages installed, and I have no problem
[11:56] <nuu> ok hsystem-x, let's try this
[11:56] <nuu> we'll add your test user to the same groups as your main user
[11:57] <nuu> and we'll see if that disables login for it
[11:57] <nuu> so, from terminal:
[11:58] <mat1980> sunnyhours, the only problem using restricted modules is that usually they are less stable
[11:58] <wolferine> logitech webcams, who has found success and installing them? (need to troubleshoot my own)
[11:58] <mat1980> i.e. ibernation on my laptop doesn't work with nvidia driver
[11:59] <hsystem-x> nuu: ?
[12:00] <nuu> oh sorry hsystem-x
[12:00] <nuu> sudo usermod -aG <group> test
[12:00] <nuu> where <group> is each of the groups you are in
[12:00] <nuu> (hsystem-x, etc)
[12:00] <slow-motion> n8
[12:00] <nuu> you gotta do it for each group
[12:01] <sunnyhours> what does this notation mean? <IP_ADDRESS>-11.2
[12:02] <sunnyhours> does that mean it'll work with kernel versions 2.6.17-7 all the way through <IP_ADDRESS>?
[12:02] <Arwen> sunnyhours, major.minor.micro.nano-build.subbuild
[12:02] <sunnyhours> lol thanks
[12:03] <Arwen> 2.6 is the family of the kernel, .17 is the version, .7 is the minor version, 11.2 refers to the Ubuntu-specific build number
[12:03] <hsystem-x> nuu: done
[12:03] <Arwen> sunnyhours, that help?
[12:03] <sunnyhours> so i take it the nvidia-glx package version <IP_ADDRESS>-11.2 won't work for my 2.6.17-10-386 kernel
[12:03] <sunnyhours> Arwen: yes, but a bit over my head
[12:03] <adaptr> sunnyhours just take the latest one
[12:04] <Arwen> sunnyhours, no, it has to match the version number
[12:04] <sunnyhours> adaptr: the latest what?
[12:04] <adaptr> Arwen erm.. that's kinda irrelevant because *buntu makes sure you get a matched version
[12:04] <sunnyhours> Arwen: figured... let me do another search in synaptic
[12:04] <adaptr> sunnyhours the latest nvidia-glx
[12:04] <hsystem-x> nuu: i have done what you said. An i still can log in with the test user through console.
[12:05] <sunnyhours> adaptr: i did
[12:05] <hsystem-x> Well, i believe the best solution is to create a new user with all the groups this (present) user have, and remove this one. ?
[12:06] <hsystem-x> what you think? NUU
[12:06] <adaptr> sunnyhours did you get the proper drivers for nvidia ? if so, it should all Just Work (C)
[12:06] <sunnyhours> thanks for the tips guys. time to restart X and see if it worked   =)
[12:07] <nuu> hsystem-x: that would be one solution, but you'd have to copy your home around
[12:07] <hsystem-x> well, just to move my things to the new home, and remvoe the old one, right?
[12:08] <nuu> the old one will go when you userdel -r <your_user>
[12:08] <nuu> (that -r means, wipe user's files)
[12:08] <hsystem-x> yes, I know.
[12:08] <nuu> if you want to follow that path, then make sure you do it from rot
[12:08] <nuu> root
[12:08] <nuu> so i would
[12:08] <nuu> sudo su -
[12:09] <nuu> adduser newuser
[12:09] <nuu> usermod -aG admin newuser
[12:09] <nuu> cp -pR /home/<youruser>/* /home/newuser
[12:09] <nuu> chown -R newuser:newuser /home/newuser
[12:09] <hsystem-x> "/*"means all?
[12:10] <nuu> yes
[12:10] <chuck> adaptr: no luck. i actually get an error message when starting X. "API Mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has version 1.0-8776, but this x module has version 1.0-8774"
[12:10] <hsystem-x> well that's a good idea, thanks.
[12:10] <nuu> then proceed with "usermod -aG <group x> newuser" for every group
[12:10] <nuu> then, BEFORE you do userdel -r <your_user>
[12:10] <nuu> i suggest you logout and log in with newuser
[12:10] <chuck> i had this before when i just tried to use the nvidia install script that i downloaded off their web site
[12:11] <nuu> and see if everything's in place and works
[12:11] <wolferine> how can I open a GUI locally that is run on a remote machine via a shell and ssh?
[12:11] <hsystem-x> ok , thanks for the help.
[12:11] <nuu> np hsystem-x
[12:11] <adaptr> chuck that's because all three have to have the same version
[12:11] <chuck> all three what? Kernel, the nvidia module, and the x module?
[12:11] <adaptr> chuck you did what ? oh f*ing hell, why do so many people persist
[12:12] <adaptr> chuck get RID of the nvidia crap, and install the proper packages form ubuntu
[12:12] <chuck> adaptr: lol    i had it work before.... is there an easy way to undo that?
[12:12] <Graham> Anybody here use superkaramba?
[12:12] <adaptr> no
[12:12] <adaptr> well, yes - uninstall anything nvidia, and delete the rest
[12:12] <nuu> wolferine: what OS on the remote machine ?
[12:12] <chuck> adaptr: i think i may be better off reformatting, and reinstalling. this is starting to look a lot like windows   =\
[12:12] <wolferine> nuu, linux the entire way
[12:13] <adaptr> chuck not at all, but you need to apply a little common sense and restraint to not USE it like one does WIndows ;-)
[12:13] <chuck> adaptr: hahaa   it just looked so much easier than following the ubuntu how-to   ;-)
[12:14] <lettuce> amarok keeps craching every time i use it. Is there a linux program better than amarok?
[12:14] <chuck> adaptr: So do you have any idea what exactly i'll need to uninstall and delete?
[12:14] <chuck> lettuce: consider xmms, or kaffeine. depending on what you'd like to play
[12:14] <adaptr> yeah.. sure... aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-glx is *difficult* ?
[12:14] <adaptr> I give up all hope, then
[12:14] <mat1980> lettuce, kmplayer works fine