[12:01] <judah> yallaman: ah.. ok.
[12:01] <J_P> godmachine81: yes I now that, but I not undersand this example : if my current server machine died and I will be buy a new machine ( one amd k7), and I get out hd from p4 and insert into a new machine (amd) the startup will be change the kernel ? not right ? Or I will be need reinstall the  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server to detect new cpu ?
[12:01] <DShepherd> LjL: but i could be wrong :-)
[12:01] <JackRazz> ok judah, thanks
[12:01] <J_P> godmachine81: this is not clear for me
[12:01] <JackRazz> saved me some trouble trying to research it.
[12:01] <yallaman> hope this isnt a issue that it suddenly eats my cpu..without a reason:P
[12:01] <J_P> godmachine81: I understand that i need as a kernel k7 and p4 in grub to boot if i change cpu, , but would like use -server..
[12:01] <DShepherd> `blink: the one you entered when you were setting up the system
[12:01] <godmachine81> J_P,  like i said no the server package will only install the current running kernel type
[12:01] <`blink> during the install i set only password and hostname
[12:01] <Stromham> hey guys how do i change my splash screen?
[12:02] <`blink> no name...
[12:02] <godmachine81> J_P, do you only want to use "server" because it says server? or is there something you know about it that makes you want it for a particular reason
[12:02] <DShepherd> `blink: are you sure... try to remember again.. it should ask you to set a password
[12:02] <J_P> godmachine81: yes, so if i get out hd from a p4 and put on a amd k7 that not works, i need reinstall system for has  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server  running for current cpu type ?
[12:03] <`blink> no - i am sure
[12:03] <DShepherd> `blink: and a user name..
[12:03] <hyphenated> yallaman: I get unusual CPU reports because of a kernel bug
[12:03] <godmachine81> J_P,  no you just need to install the server kernel for both amd and p4 right now and you wont have to worry about that later on when you do move the hd to a different machine..
[12:03] <nickrud> !usplash > Stromham
[12:03] <Banana9> will ubuntu run on UltraSPARC-I cpu's?
[12:03] <godmachine81> J_P,  apt-cache search kernel |grep server
[12:04] <godmachine81> see if you see a server kernel for both amd and p4
[12:04] <DShepherd> `blink: well as far as I know, there's no default user that is set in the ubuntu installation.. so on that basis you may have entered the username and not have realised...
[12:04] <nickrud> godmachine81, it's linux | grep server on ubuntu
[12:05] <godmachine81> nickrud,  kernel will show it too
[12:05] <godmachine81> it would actually be linux-image |grep server
[12:05] <eegore> judah: finaly toyed with Dapper
[12:05] <Ubuntnoob> my programs seem to be loading much slower in ubuntu
[12:05] <nickrud> godmachine81, true as well
[12:05] <J_P> godmachine81: has only one linux-image-server (for all arquitectures right) ?
[12:05] <Ubuntnoob> any ideas what could be causing this ?
[12:05] <Ubuntnoob> ?
[12:05] <eegore> very impressed
[12:05] <dave_euser> is there a way to do a text-only install with dapper?
[12:05] <alex_> Question: is there software to sync palmtreo650 via bluetooth?
[12:05] <godmachine81> ok if its for all architectures then there ya go
[12:05] <nickrud> dave_euser, yes, get the alternate cd
[12:05] <DShepherd> nickrud: is the user home folder created before logining in for the first time?
[12:06] <`blink> nothing....
[12:06] <dave_euser> ok, thanks ;-) nice and easy...
[12:06] <godmachine81> J_P,  i dont know for sure, but dont be surprised if sound and other things dont work properly with that version of the kernel
[12:06] <nickrud> DShepherd, I would think it's made during the user creation phase
[12:06] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok thanks..
[12:06] <steveire> Well if anyone else wants to know how to do what I wanted with amarok, It's a Konqueror setting. change the command used for mpegs to amarok -a
[12:06] <DShepherd> `blink: how familiar are you with linux?
[12:06] <nickrud> DShepherd, I'm assuming that the install simply calls adduser
[12:06] <steveire> amarok -a percentU that is
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> my programs seem to be loading much slower in ubuntu
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> any ideas what could be causing this ?
[12:07] <DShepherd> nickrud: which creates the home folder even if the user hasnt logged in.. right?
[12:07] <alex_> Ubuntnoob: yourself? lol j/k
[12:07] <nickrud> DShepherd, yes
[12:07] <DShepherd> nickrud: thanks
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> :P
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> its weird
[12:07] <Inzoy> brb
[12:07] <Stormx2> Got a creative zen micro and I don't like using gnomad2
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> even after reboot on a go slow
[12:07] <Stormx2> Any other software I could use?
[12:08] <dave_euser> just out of curiosity, anyone get dapper booting with an asus a8n5x and nvidia 7600? keeps getting stuck in X...
[12:08] <rpedro> Stormx2: amaroK!
[12:08] <dave_euser> google was no help... ;-(
[12:08] <DShepherd> `blink: do you have a live cd around? you boot into that and check the folder names under the home folder. you should maybe recognize one of those names..
[12:08] <BIAF> is apache got via apt-get for  ubuntu desktop version?
[12:08] <Stormx2> rpedro: Can I easily just queue up a tonne of folders to copy over to my zen micro?
[12:09] <LjL> BIAF: sure
[12:09] <DShepherd> `blink: as a matter of fact.. it should be the only name under the home folder..
[12:09] <anfangs> ubuntunoob: all your programs load slowly? How long is slow?
[12:09] <KuLover> Anyone here have sound probs while using Skype?
[12:09] <rpedro> Stormx2: it has special support for ipods an iRiver players, but has generic support for others
[12:10] <runes> KuLover, yes even on the 32bit  if I hang up prior to the caller it locks the sound card
[12:10] <DShepherd> `blink: do you have a live cd..?
[12:10] <`blink> its ok now
[12:10] <`blink> the name is oem
[12:10] <reazon> ...
[12:10] <DShepherd> `blink: and what's the password? :-)
[12:10] <KuLover> runes, So you think its because skype uses old OSS?
[12:11] <DShepherd> `blink: i;m just joking..
[12:11] <nickrud> `blink, ah, you need to run oem-config
[12:11] <BIAF> LjL : i noticed apt-get install apache gets nothing but apache2 does
[12:11] <nickrud> I think that is
[12:11] <KuLover> runes, The last linux version of skype was released last Oct
[12:11] <runes> KuLover, seems to be the going consensus
[12:11] <rpedro> Stormx2: just install it and try, it's a great player anyways, probably the best for linux , or any other OS I would say
[12:11] <DShepherd> nickrud: oem-config? never heard of that one? ubotu has info about this?
[12:12] <runes> KuLover, I have been able to run multiple mm aps with alsa withou locking the sound card--I go oss..Bang problems galore
[12:12] <LjL> BIAF: apache (version 1) is also in the repositories, but you must enable the Universe repository.  apache2 is in the Main repository.
[12:12] <swaj> I just did a "sudo apt-get install amsn" -- however aMSN looks incredibly pixelated, not like the rest of the OS which is clean and anti-aliased.  Anybody know how to fix this?
[12:12] <funkmaster> how do i run bootstrap on ubuntu?
[12:12] <nickrud> DShepherd, I don't know if ubotu does, it's the thing run during first boot after an oem config
[12:12] <nickrud> oem install, i mean
[12:12] <yallaman> anyone here have some experience making/editing themes for gnome?
[12:12] <runes> KuLover, but give Skype credit for releasing a linux version :)
[12:12] <BIAF> LjL : i need some form of apache for webmin, what one would you use
[12:12] <godmachine81> swaj,  thats the way aMSN is made.. its the widgets it uses
[12:12] <LjL> BIAF: i'm not so experienced with apache.
[12:12] <DShepherd> nickrud:  oh. and that should set up a user, oem-config that is..
[12:13] <BIAF> LjL : thx
[12:13] <Stormx2> rpedro: Nah I'm happy with my current media player
[12:13] <swaj> godmachine81, I've seen some shots of aMSN that look much better -- there's no way to clean up the fonts and nastiness?  if not I'll just install kopete
[12:13] <nickrud> DShepherd, yes. It allows resellers to pre-install ubuntu, and the buyer to set up the initial account
[12:13] <godmachine81> swaj,  there are some themes, and you can apply custom fonts to it, but you still have that tcl look to it
[12:13] <DShepherd> nickrud: ah,, makes sense.. thanks for the info.
[12:14] <funkmaster> how can i run bootstrap on ubuntu?
[12:14] <swaj> godmachine81, alright thanks.. I guess kopete is the way to go.. unless you know of a decent GTK msn client that isn't gaim?
[12:14] <godmachine81> swaj,  the menus will always have that look and feel
[12:14] <nickrud> funkmaster, there's some stuff about that under Installation on the wiki
[12:14] <funkmaster> swaj: kopete
[12:15] <funkmaster> nickru: the ubunut wiki?
[12:15] <godmachine81> swaj,  i only use gaim for it, of course it lacks some of the features that MSN for Windows tries to spoil you with...
[12:15] <nickrud> funkmaster, yes. I'm guessing you're talking about debootstrap
[12:15] <swaj> funkmaster, Kopete doesn't run under GTK last I checked -- wanted to avoid the KDElibs if possible
[12:15] <J_P> I not understand why not exist one -server for each arquitecture! :-(
[12:16] <Flannel> J_P: which arch you looking for?
[12:16] <godmachine81> J_P,  your making a big deal out of nothing, just install the linux-image-2.6-k7 and linux-image-2.6-686
[12:16] <funkmaster> i don't know actually, i just got the svn of vlc and i was told in order to be able to compile it i first need to run bootstrap
[12:16] <godmachine81> and be done with it
[12:16] <BIAF> LjL : where do i enable the Universe repository?
[12:16] <LjL> !universe
[12:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:17] <steveire> Stormx2: There's a few programs to connect to your creative, and I'm afraid gnomad is the best one. I don't think amarok connects to it anyway
[12:17] <LjL> BIAF: in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <DShepherd> nickrud: ubotu does know about oem. not sure if what it knows is relevant though..
[12:17] <DShepherd> !oem
[12:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuquityKnownIssues
[12:17] <J_P> godmachine81: but if there are just -server for server, why I will br use -k7 and -686 understand ? I need do this only becouse don't are one -server for each arquitecture right!
[12:17] <Inzoy> at last
[12:17] <swaj> anybody know of a google talk client for Linux?
[12:18] <eobanb> swaj, Gaim
[12:18] <Kibou> funkmaster: you probably just have to run ./bootstrap.sh inside the root directory of the vlc source
[12:18] <DShepherd> swaj: gaim?
[12:18] <eobanb> swaj, or actually, any jabber client will do
[12:18] <rpedro> Stormx2: if you can mount your zen micro as a normal usb hdd, you can use amaroK to copy folders onto it, also amarok has quite a few plugins available, I usually use one to transcode into ogg directly to my player
[12:18] <Inzoy> it says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[12:18] <swaj> google talk is jabber?  didn't know that :P
[12:18] <eobanb> swaj, it is indeed.
[12:18] <nickrud> DShepherd, I've never installed the oem version, but having an oem in home would lead me to look in that direction
[12:18] <godmachine81> only because that server kernel is going to be stripped and i dont understand your english very well.. i know that if you install the k7 and the 686 kernel when you move the hd you will be able to pick the appropriate kernel for the cpu from the menu..  the server kernel isnt going to make your machine any better just because it says server...
[12:19] <Inzoy> thats the last line.. above it says something about busybox, built-in shell and some other stuff
[12:19] <DShepherd> nickrud: i havent either.. that's why I was kinda clueless about the oem-config command. thanks again
[12:19] <Inzoy> now what?
[12:19] <godmachine81> i'd rather see you use the non-server kernel and not have problems than install the server kernel and come back in here wondering why something isnt working...
[12:19] <izhirahider> Can anyone tell me an alternative pt_PT mirror, since pt.archive.ubuntu.com does not work?
[12:19] <antinobody> Inzoy I'm looking up the error message on launchpad and ubuntuforums (and then google)
[12:19] <yallaman> ack..do i need to be a rocket scientist just to change the colours on my windows borders??
[12:20] <antinobody> I'm not familiar with it
[12:20] <godmachine81> antinobody, good look with that busybox error
[12:20] <godmachine81> the only solution i can think of is a reinstall.. it done it to me once]
[12:20] <rpedro> izhirahider: wait
[12:20] <nickrud> yallaman, gtk themes? not a rocket scientist, but close.
[12:20] <J_P> Flannel: : I have this question for use always -server kernel: if i get out hd from a p4(installed -server)  and put on a amd k7, i need reinstall system for has  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server  running for current cpu type ?
[12:21] <yallaman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16482  this i have now..but i want the windows borders same balck colour as the panel..if ya see what i mean
[12:21] <Inzoy> godmachine81 i told you before.. to reinstall you first have to install it
[12:21] <rpedro> izhirahider: replace 'pt.archive.ubuntu.com' with 'darkstar.ist.utl.pt'
[12:21] <nickrud> izhirahider, try just removing the pt. from the lines, or see rpedro :)
[12:22] <niki> how do i update my graphics driver on a laptop?
[12:22] <izhirahider> if I remove pt. I loose nationality mirror, which I surely need :) thanks
[12:22] <alex_> I'm trying to install limewire; its saying to upgrade JRE but I already have java installed in its default location, meaning that java is already installed but as I do sh ./runLime.sh ; it returns a message saying that the directories its looking at don't have java installed. So how do I point sh to the right direction?
[12:22] <alex_> direction = directory
[12:22] <yallaman> im guessing there are now gui like tool to make themes and such..sigh
[12:22] <nickrud> izhirahider, no, you don't *need* it, but it's nice
[12:22] <LjL> izhirahider: won't necessarily be much slower. when i had problems with the italian mirrors, i used the french ones, and for me they were just as fast
[12:23] <gnomefreak> alex_: did you isntall java <IP_ADDRESS>/7?
[12:23] <roostishaw> which exit status is a success, 0 or 1?
[12:23] <izhirahider> LjL: I have bandwidth problems, due to whitelisting IPs by my ISP
[12:23] <nickrud> I used the uk from the us, and it was much faster :)
[12:23] <LjL> !limewire
[12:23] <eobanb> yallaman, try gnome-look.org
[12:23] <ubotu> A popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To isntall, first install java, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh - consider frostwire (from the !repos) as alternative.
[12:23] <eobanb> yallaman, there are tons of themes there
[12:23] <gnomefreak> alex_: if so you might want to run sudo update-alternatives --config java   and pick the newest version
[12:23] <stranex> F~roostishaw: 0
[12:23] <alex_> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:23] <roostishaw> thank you
[12:23] <PhoenixP3K> Can anyone here help me out with Ubuntu+Vista Beta 2 and grub ?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> alex_: yw
[12:24] <LjL> !anyone
[12:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:24] <niki> how do i update my graphics driver on a laptop?
[12:24] <eobanb> niki, what graphics card do you have
[12:25] <niki> eobanb, i'm not sure, the laptop was given to me used
[12:25] <alex_> gnomefreak: *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[12:25] <alex_> gnomefreak: isn't that the correct one to have limewire installed?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> alex_: thats not the one you want
[12:25] <skydragon38> what should i do about this: E: zope-replacesupport: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1, thanks in advance.
[12:25] <eobanb> niki, go to System > Administration > Device Manager
[12:25] <Flannel> J_P: right.  You should be fine.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> gcj is the one that comes with ubuntu
[12:25] <nickrud> niki, sudo ddcprobe should tell you a bit about your video card
[12:25] <gnomefreak> alex_: you want java 1.5
[12:25] <alex_> gnomefreak: oh!? really. hmm. other option is usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[12:26] <alex_> gnomefreak: got it. will look for it
[12:26] <gnomefreak> alex_: enable multiverse and run sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[12:26] <alex_> will do
[12:26] <gnomefreak> alex_: run that command again and choose 1.5 fromt here ;)
[12:27] <alex_> gnomefreak: thanks bro
[12:27] <godmachine81> Inzoy, yes i know... i was speaking if you had that error after you had it installed.  on your problem i really don't know what the problem is.  how far into the install did you actually get?
[12:27] <niki> eobanb, nickrud, what do i look at in Sys/Admin/DeviceManager and ddcprobe?
[12:27] <Inzoy> i found a casper.log file and all i can see in it is : "/init: 1: cannot open /dev/sda: no medium found"
[12:27] <nickrud> niki, I'm not sure about the dev manager (looking at it right now) but ddcprobe tells you exactly what your card and monitor is, as seen by ubuntu
[12:28] <adcuritn> ive got a question about ubuntu and sparc
[12:28] <roostishaw> if i added 0 to a variable that equalled 00, would it come out as 01 or 1?
[12:28] <roostishaw> *if i added 1
[12:28] <niki> nickrud, it gave me a long output, which is the one that says my graphics card?
[12:28] <nickrud> niki, at the very top?
[12:28] <niki> nickrud, so my graphics card is Trident CYBER 8620?
[12:28] <izhirahider> rpedro: any idea why pt.* is not working?
[12:28] <Inzoy> sda is usb drive or something like that right?
[12:28] <rpedro> izhirahider: nope
[12:29] <nickrud> niki, sounds right
[12:29] <godmachine81> Inzoy,  sda is scsi devices and most usb hard drives / flash drives
[12:29] <niki> nickrud, ok...now that i know that, what do i do to update my driver?
[12:29] <nickrud> niki, your driver should be up to date, if your system is
[12:29] <Loh> how limit rate in apt
[12:29] <roostishaw> if i added 1 to a variable that equalled 00, would it come out as 01 or 1?
[12:29] <Loh> how limit dowload rate in apt
[12:29] <niki> nickrud, google earth for linux tells me i need to update my driver or else it will be very slow
[12:29] <J_P> Flannel: and how I do for reinstall -server kernel in new cpu type ?
[12:29] <Inzoy> jeez.. my printer has a card reader on it.. that might be it :O
[12:30] <LjL> roostishaw: if you did that... where?
[12:30] <adcuritn> I have a sparcstation 20 that I would like to put ubuntu on. There is only a server distribution of ubuntu for sparc. does server come with a gui?
[12:30] <Loh> how limit dowload rate in apt( limit speed of downloading)
[12:30] <nickrud> niki, a sec
[12:30] <Inzoy> i thought it had to do something with the raid controller on my mobo
[12:30] <eternaljoy> hey hey :)
[12:30] <roostishaw> anywhere... if i have a var that ="00", and add one to it... would it then = 1 or 01?
[12:31] <eternaljoy> if I dont upgrade from breezy, will breezy be an insecure system and no future updates?
[12:31] <pooya> is there a netword analogoue of top commnd?
[12:31] <PhoenixP3K> any vista beta 2 dual booters here ?
[12:31] <LjL> eternaljoy: not until sometime next year...
[12:31] <bbrazil> PhoenixP3K: ntop
[12:31] <kayde> HOW do i fix broken applications?? i need help...
[12:31] <Deedubb> Hello. I'm trying to find a good NFS caching daemon/settings for ubuntu. It seems nscd is not in any repos?
[12:31] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: what programming language?  I imagine in most cases you actually have a String there, not an int.
[12:31] <bbrazil> pooya: ^
[12:31] <eternaljoy> LjL: so im safe to use it and get secrity updates till at least January 2007?
[12:31] <pooya> bbrazil, thanks
[12:31] <godmachine81> kayde,  apt-get -f install
[12:31] <roostishaw> LjL, anywhere... if i have a var that ="00", and add one to it... would it then = 1 or 01?
[12:31] <Inzoy> PhoenixP3K the first thing i am going to do when i boot ubuntu is trash vista and install grub
[12:31] <BIAF> Roostishaw : i think it depends what you have var set to
[12:31] <roostishaw> RandolphCarter, a bash script
[12:32] <Inzoy> vista sucks
[12:32] <Loh> how limit dowload rate in apt( i want limit speed of downloading)
[12:32] <bbrazil> pooya: I like iptraf and bmon, etherape is okay
[12:32] <nickrud> niki, the trident is not 3d capable yet, you need a new chip, not just a driver
[12:32] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: 1
[12:32] <Deedubb> vista has been released?
[12:32] <As1> ashley
[12:32] <PhoenixP3K> Inzoy: grub doesn't recognize vista
[12:32] <roostishaw> awww...
[12:32] <DShepherd> eeboy: heheh.. same here..
[12:32] <niki> nickrud, aw man.... :(
[12:32] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: you can read 'man printf' if you want formatted output
[12:32] <PhoenixP3K> Inzoy: I've tryed everything to install it back...
[12:32] <LjL> roostishaw: sorry, but that question makes no sense. it would depend on the language. languages don't just all behave the same way. in many languages, you couldn't *have* a *numeric* variable containing "00" in the first place
[12:32] <LjL> eternaljoy: yes
[12:32] <eternaljoy> LjL: so im safe to use it and get secrity updates till at least January 2007?
[12:32] <Inzoy> phoenix.. i won't have vista on my machine by then
[12:32] <nickrud> niki, no gl for you, but hey, it was free
[12:32] <eternaljoy> LjL: ok ok
[12:32] <DShepherd> Deedubb: that's a question that everyone has been asking for a long time
[12:33] <eternaljoy> LjL: why should I upgrade to Dapper?  how is it more secure than breezy?
[12:33] <roostishaw> RandolphCarter, so how do i make a loop that will count like:  01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11... in bash?
[12:33] <Deedubb> so, nscd? not required anymore?
[12:33] <LjL> eternaljoy: i don't think it's mostly a matter of security.
[12:33] <eternaljoy> LjL: what then?
[12:33] <as1> godmachine81: what do i type to put in root password again?
[12:33] <DarkMageZ> eternaljoy, it's a matter of up to dateness
[12:33] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: read 'man printf', you could ask in #bash, but they'd probably tell you to RTM
[12:33] <eternaljoy> as1: sudo
[12:33] <hawkaloogie> because it's faster, and more efficient, with better access to the internet!
[12:33] <Loh> People how to limit download speed ( analog of wget --limit-rate but in apt-get) i know that apt-get used wget
[12:33] <godmachine81> as1, passwd
[12:34] <eternaljoy> DarkMageZ: up to dateness in what way? what improvments?
[12:34] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: 'help for' could be useful too
[12:34] <roostishaw> RandolphCarter, im asking in bash right now, thx...
[12:34] <nickrud> latest & greatest, with less pain than unstable
[12:34] <Jelte> hi there... anyone know when the mythtv packages in the repository are going to be updated for the 0.19-fixes branch?
[12:34] <eternaljoy> DarkMageZ: what are the imporvments in Dapper?
[12:34] <LjL> eternaljoy: well *shrug* it's a new version. it's got some more features and hopefully some bugs fixed (and some added), and of course newer versions of most packages. that's why we have versions ;-)
[12:34] <DarkMageZ> eternaljoy, dapper contains newer versions of packages, and other big changes, i'm not sure where you could find a list tho
[12:34] <eternaljoy> LjL: and more bugs ;)
[12:34] <as1> What do i type into root to password????
[12:34] <eternaljoy> DarkMageZ: ok
[12:34] <eternaljoy> DarkMageZ: u using dapper now?
[12:34] <LjL> eternaljoy: anyway, you asked "why should I upgrade to Dapper". you *should* not upgrade to dapper. you *might want to* upgrade to dapper.
[12:35] <Flannel> as1: ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[12:35] <godmachine81> as1, the password you want to use
[12:35] <Inzoy> as1: sudo passwd
[12:35] <DarkMageZ> eternaljoy, of cource
[12:35] <Flannel> eternaljoy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606
[12:35] <LjL> !tell as1 about sudo
[12:35] <eternaljoy> Flannel: cheers!
[12:35] <Inzoy> flannel? who told you that?
[12:35] <adcuritn> does the server distribution of ubuntu come with a gui?
[12:35] <Flannel> adcuritn: no
[12:35] <eternaljoy> adcuritn: maybe
[12:35] <adcuritn> can I install one
[12:35] <Flannel> adcuritn: yep
[12:35] <Inzoy> sure
[12:35] <eternaljoy> adcuritn: maybe
[12:36] <eternaljoy> adcuritn: :)
[12:36] <Inzoy> eternaljoy: stop maybe-ing
[12:36] <eternaljoy> Inzoy: make me ;)
[12:36] <adcuritn> apt-get install gde?
[12:36] <Inzoy> gde?
[12:36] <BIAF> adc : ubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <Flannel> adcuritn: ubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <adcuritn> thanks
[12:37] <BIAF> gnome is what u will get, not KDE
[12:37] <adcuritn> I know
[12:37] <BIAF> cool
[12:37] <adcuritn> gde=gnome
[12:37] <LjL> if you want a GUI though, why not install Desktop in the first place?
[12:37] <Inzoy> :P
[12:37] <eternaljoy> is upgrading to dapper as good as a new install?
[12:37] <adcuritn> there isnt a desktop distribution for sparc
[12:37] <Flannel> eternaljoy: yep
[12:37] <Hexidigital> nothing is as good as a new install
[12:38] <Hexidigital> imho
[12:38] <as1> HOW DO I GET IN TO ROOT? what do I type to put in my password??
[12:38] <nickrud> eternaljoy, as long as you haven't made any major changes manually
[12:38] <eternaljoy> Flannel: so I can upgrade and not need to new install?
[12:38] <bbrazil> godmachine81: try xubuntu - xcfe
[12:38] <Flannel> as1: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password.  Read that link ubotu sent you
[12:38] <nickrud> as1, there is no root password
[12:38] <Flannel> !tell as1 about root
[12:38] <mikere> eternaljoy: worked well for me upgradeing
[12:38] <eternaljoy> nickrud: does Dapper come preinstalled with gnome-ppp?
[12:38] <godmachine81> bbrazil, well xfce is pretty gnomish nowadays..
[12:38] <antinobody> Inzoy so when you try to install it kicks you to a console after the error message, right?
[12:38] <LjL> godmachine81: i don't necessarily "like" them, but most programs are using their services anyway. so i don't find removing them gaining me anything
[12:38] <nickrud> eternaljoy, no, you'll need to download that from universe
[12:38] <bbrazil> godmachine81: snapy enough for me.  HELP
[12:40] <Inzoy> i found a casper.log file and all i can see in it is : "/init: 1: cannot open /dev/sda: no medium found"
[12:40] <godmachine81> eobanb, not worth going there.. im done with that issue i was just asking a 1 time question...
[12:40] <antinobody> Inzoy yeah, I read that
[12:40] <Flannel> as1: sure
[12:40] <eternaljoy> how do I list all IRC channel using x-chat?
[12:40] <Inzoy> :)
[12:40] <bbrazil> eternaljoy: /list usually
[12:40] <godmachine81> as1,  what exactly do you need to be root for?
[12:40] <eobanb> eternaljoy, /list .  but i wouldnt recommend doing that on a network as popular as freenode
[12:40] <Deedubb> Last call: anyone know any good solutions for NFS caching
[12:40] <antinobody> well at least I know it's probably not a tty7 problem
[12:40] <bbrazil> Loh: not sure it's doable directly, may tell it to go through squid and limit it there?
[12:40] <antinobody> it looks like a tty(anything) problem
[12:40] <nickrud> eternaljoy, go to ircsearch.org , it's got a nice interface
[12:41] <Inzoy> :P
[12:41] <Flannel> as1: you can't PM unless you're registered/identified though
[12:41] <nickrud> well, usable anyway
[12:41] <eobanb> eternaljoy, Window > Channel List
[12:41] <as1> Flannel: can u pm me then?
[12:41] <Loh> bbrazil i dont know how to  change it in suid
[12:41] <Loh> bbrazil i dont know how to  change it in squid
[12:41] <Inzoy> now i cannot even get to that prompt..
[12:42] <Loh> apt-get used wget it can change download speesd
[12:42] <LjL> Loh: try "apt-cache show trickle"
[12:42] <Inzoy> it lies to me.. my machine lies to me!! it says "OK, booting kernel" and it doesn't..
[12:42] <bbrazil> Loh: look in the config under dealy pools
[12:42] <bbrazil> Loh: *delay
[12:42] <tobberoth_> Is there any big channel for discussing Wine issues?
[12:42] <Daveyboy> hey , i downloaded apt-get install xfce-desktop but i don't see it in my login screen for a session...
[12:42] <LjL> tobberoth_: #winehq
[12:43] <tobberoth_> thanks :)
[12:43] <Inzoy> this indicates an unhealthy relationship between me and my computer
[12:43] <godmachine81> kayde, what are you trying to become root for? what particular reason?
[12:43] <Alpha-Toxic> hi guys, what was the command to change screen res through the command line?
[12:43] <aLPHa_LeaK> Alpha-Toxic: iirc edit the xorg.conf
[12:43] <nickrud> *blush* used xchat for a year, never saw that window channel list menu item
[12:43] <eternaljoy> i found it!  in x-chat chose Window in menu then chose List Channels :)
[12:43] <nicolas_> hi
[12:43] <eobanb> eternaljoy, that's what i just said...
[12:44] <eternaljoy> eobanb: ah ok ;)
[12:44] <antinobody> Inzoy this is on the same computer you're using now, right?
[12:44] <Alpha-Toxic> there was a command, i have used it, but forgot it...
[12:44] <eternaljoy> eobanb: you use dapper or breezy?
[12:44] <Inzoy> nope..
[12:44] <eobanb> dapper.
[12:44] <antinobody> Oh, ok then
[12:44] <nickrud> Inzoy, do you have serial ata? I ask, not because I have a solution, but I've seen that happen with ubuntu occasionally
[12:44] <eobanb> eternaljoy, it's the same in dapper and in breezy
[12:44] <eternaljoy> does Dapper come with Thunderbird?
[12:44] <eobanb> eternaljoy, no
[12:44] <godmachine81> Daveyboy, you may need to make a new xfce.desktop file in your /usr/share/xsessions/ directory
[12:44] <eternaljoy> does Dapper come with x-chat?
[12:44] <Flannel> eternaljoy: yep, well.  you can install it from the repositories.  It doesn't come preinstalled
[12:44] <Inzoy> nop... just ata
[12:44] <eobanb> eternaljoy, no
[12:44] <antinobody> !mozilla-thunderbird
[12:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about mozilla-thunderbird
[12:44] <Inzoy> crappy ide
[12:44] <QPAD|warlock-O-> !pastebin
[12:44] <nickrud> eternaljoy, no, xchat-gnome
[12:44] <eobanb> eternaljoy, just sudo a-tpget install xchat
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:44] <antinobody> !thunderbird
[12:44] <eternaljoy> eobanb: does dapper come with anything? :P
[12:44] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[12:45] <eobanb> eternaljoy, of course.  but there's a reason that ubuntu fits on one CD
[12:45] <LjL> eternaljoy: does it matter that much what it comes with?
[12:45] <eternaljoy> eobanb: if I do a new install that means I have to install so many things :(
[12:45] <eobanb> eternaljoy, just sudo apt-get install xchat, and there, you have it
[12:45] <nicolas_> is there a sort of mail notification available for evolution ? (in gnome, i know xfce mail icon used to change to red when new mail arrives)
[12:45] <rpedro> Alpha-Toxic: alt-ctrl-keypadplus and alt-ctrl-keypadminus ?
[12:45] <eobanb> eternaljoy, no need to troll
[12:45] <eternaljoy> eobanb: define troll
[12:45] <Loh> bbrazil -> delay? its a comand of what
[12:45] <eobanb> eternaljoy, someone trying to start an argument?
[12:45] <BIAF> im looking best way to apt-get sendmail for my webmin...
[12:45] <Hexidigital> eternaljoy:: what you are doing is trolling
[12:45] <eternaljoy> eobanb: you falsely accuse me
[12:46] <nickrud> or the edge of it anyway
[12:46] <antinobody> Inzoy can you try to get to install it again?  I want to check the contents of a file
[12:46] <LjL> nicolas_: try apt-cache show evolutions-plugins
[12:46] <antinobody> then again
[12:46] <eternaljoy> Hexidigital: are you 100% certain about that?
[12:46] <antinobody> if you can't load the kernel...
[12:46] <LjL> nicolas_: that is evolution-plugins
[12:46] <Inzoy> is it possible to have any problem with the cd? now it crashes 5 seconds after it starts booting from it
[12:46] <Hexidigital> eternaljoy:: sure enough that i save my IRC logs...
[12:46] <nickrud> Inzoy, absolutely. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[12:46] <eobanb> eternaljoy, if you have a specific question, that's fine, but if you have a valid complaint about ubuntu then contact the development team
[12:46] <yallaman> is there somhow i can change workspaces with the mousewheel?
[12:46] <bbrazil> Loh: delay pools, feature of squid
[12:46] <antinobody> Inzoy maybe, try downloading the alternative cd (that should be familiar enough for you anyway)
[12:46] <Alpha-Toxic> rpedro: lol this actualy does sth :)
[12:46] <eternaljoy> Hexidigital: are you 100% certain that im trolling?
[12:46] <godmachine81> Inzoy, what type of cpu are you using?
[12:46] <nicolas_> LjL: thanks
[12:46] <BIAF> best way to apt-get sendmail for my webmin?
[12:47] <antinobody> and then md5summing it
[12:47] <antinobody> to be sure
[12:47] <eternaljoy> eobanb: are you a developer?
[12:47] <eobanb> eternaljoy, not of ubuntu, no.
[12:47] <nickrud> yallaman, put the mouse pointer over the desktop pictures lower right, and scroll
[12:47] <Loh> running trickle :trickle: Could not reach trickled, working independently: No such file or directory
[12:47] <Loh> trickle: exec(): No such file or directory
[12:47] <crimsun> this trolling/not-trolling discussion needs to be moved right now.
[12:47] <Inzoy> but i've booted this disc a bounch of times anyways.. gonna check it out
[12:47] <Hexidigital> crimsun:: sorry
[12:48] <yallaman> well..that works too..was hoping to get it working..anywhere on the deskto tho:)
[12:48] <antinobody> Inzoy the alt cd might be friendlier, who knows?
[12:48] <Inzoy> antinobody the desktop cd it much more usefull
[12:48] <Inzoy> just click and boom: installed
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> What folder should have the program.exe (Windows App) if I want to run it under Wine?
[12:48] <antinobody> Inzoy true, but if you can't get to that pont, it isn't that useful
[12:48] <Inzoy> godmachine81 i got a p4 3.something GHz
[12:48] <LjL> Loh: hm, it works for me with "sudo trickle apt-get update"
[12:49] <Inzoy> i'm gonna try re downloading ubuntu
[12:49] <godmachine81> what type of hard drive Inzoy ?
[12:49] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: it's under ~/.wine/ if I remember correctly
[12:49] <Inzoy> i'll get the alt to.. :)
[12:49] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, it'll be under ~/.wine/drive_c/ , whereever you installed it in the windows tree
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel: I need the app in the Wine folder?
[12:49] <Inzoy> godmachine81: 2 ide WD drives
[12:49] <LjL> Loh: also appears to work with "sudo trickle -u 1 aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:49] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: no, the c drive underneath of it.  install it via wine, it puts it in the right place
[12:49] <godmachine81> Jack_Sparrow,  ~/.wine/drive/Program Files/AppDir/App.exe
[12:49] <rpedro> Jack_Sparrow: first run winecfg and run through the tabs, specifically the folders tab
[12:49] <swaj> kinda wierd -- under ubuntu dapper drake, my laptop never has any issues, but in Windows XP, it overheats like crazy
[12:49] <Inzoy> i had no problem installing linux on my harddrive in the past
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool thanks, I will try it thanks guys and gals
[12:50] <antinobody> Inzoy it probably is just a corrupt cd issue
[12:51] <nickrud> Inzoy, checking the cd is faster
[12:51] <godmachine81> Inzoy, try erasing the hard drive your installing to.. that will probably fix it.. if thats an option anyway
[12:51] <Hexidigital> swaj:: you're power management should be better w/ Ubuntu, also... i get nearly 15-20% more battery power
[12:51] <antinobody> godmachine81 he didn't get that far in the process
[12:51] <godmachine81> but do what they said first
[12:51] <JackRazz> hey everyone, does the ubuntu Live CD automatically mount FAT32 partitions that are on my existing hard drives???
[12:51] <antinobody> I'm going to go take a walk now, good luck Inzoy
[12:51] <godmachine81> antinobody, i mean use a diff disc to format it
[12:51] <antinobody> ahh
[12:51] <nickrud> JackRazz, yes, most of the time
[12:51] <Inzoy> thank you antinobody
[12:52] <Loh> trickle: Could not reach trickled, working independently: No such file or directory --what does is this
[12:52] <drucer> Anyone tried to set up Ubuntu studio?
[12:52] <JackRazz> hey nickrud, one more question
[12:52] <godmachine81> Loh,  it means that the trickled is not running.. trickled would be the daemon
[12:52] <Inzoy> btw my cpu is at 3.0 GHz
[12:52] <Inzoy> ;)
[12:52] <Loh> but it works or not?
[12:53] <godmachine81> probably not
[12:53] <nickrud> JackRazz, shoot. But, I claim the right to throw the question back ;)
[12:53] <JackRazz> using nautilus, I dbl clicked the  FAT32 partion and it said someing about not being a removable drive and couldn't mount.
[12:53] <godmachine81> Loh, see what you get when you type trickle<tab> in the terminal
[12:53] <Inzoy> nickrud? "checking the cd is faster" you mean via the boot menu?
[12:53] <JackRazz> should I look for the partition in FileSystem?
[12:54] <nickrud> JackRazz, yes, but you might need to redefine it in /etc/fstab .
[12:54] <vanberge> will somebody in here write adium for linux  :-)
[12:54] <vanberge> that is the coolest i.m. program i've ever seen
[12:54] <nickrud> JackRazz, if you'd put your /etc/fstab and the output of sudo fdisk -l on a pastebin ...
[12:54] <JackRazz> I didn't think i could do that from a live cd - can I just edit it and it will automatically recognize without a reboot?
[12:54] <JackRazz> Live CD!
[12:55] <MFen> is there an official package list anywhere? i want to know what pacakges are available on the *live* (desktop?) cd
[12:55] <nickrud> JackRazz, ah, livecd. All bets are off on that, I only boot them long enough to fix my screwups
[12:55] <Daveyboy> what is a good cd burner program for ubuntu
[12:55] <MFen> in particular, i want to know if the livecd has ndiswrapper
[12:55] <Ap0s7le> Hey all, How do I edit a file that only root has access to?
[12:55] <nickrud> Daveyboy, for most uses, just go to Places->CD/DVD creator
[12:55] <Loh> I run trickle but download speed is 10 kb/s now when it set 250 /
[12:56] <Daveyboy> nickrud, im using kde
[12:56] <aLPHa_LeaK> Ap0s7le: sudo vi file
[12:56] <Ap0s7le> I don't know how to use vi
[12:56] <nickrud> Daveyboy, now why would you want to do that ;)
[12:56] <gigaclon> sudo gedit then
[12:56] <Flannel> Ap0s7le: gksudo gedit, or sudo nano
[12:56] <aLPHa_LeaK> Ap0s7le: then sudo nano or sudo gedit then
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> When using wine to run a visual basic 5 app how do I link the vb runtime libraries
[12:56] <aLPHa_LeaK> -then ;)
[12:56] <nickrud> Daveyboy, k3b for you then
[12:56] <Ap0s7le> Thanks
[12:56] <Daveyboy> nickrud, kewl
[12:56] <drucer> Daveyboy, k3b. It can even back up DVDs.
[12:57] <JackRazz> nickrud, I'm trying to install linux and need to mount it to dd the first sector in the partition to get the grub loader
[12:57] <godmachine81> k3b is a pretty good cd/dvd burning app even if your in gnome or another wm
[12:57] <godmachine81> gnome-baker isnt bad either
[12:57] <drucer> Not sure if k3b can back up encrypted DVDs though.
[12:57] <nickrud> JackRazz, I'd need to see that file & output to help
[12:58] <Inzoy> verbose mode always does it
[12:58] <Inzoy> :D
[12:58] <JackRazz> ok, nickrud,  I'll try later when I retry booting the live cd...thanks
[12:58] <Inzoy> well "drives/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver" and then i get the error
[12:59] <godmachine81> have the dapper cds been shipped out yet?
[12:59] <tobberoth_> I just installed bittornado and bittornado-gui.. how do I start it O.o
[12:59] <godmachine81> im guessing they have
[12:59] <tobberoth_> It's not in the menu
[12:59] <nickrud> JackRazz, you can try something like mkdir /windows && sudo mount /dev/hda1 -t vfat /windows, but that's pretty generic
[12:59] <acidburns> how do I remove a folder wich is not empty via the command line?
[01:00] <nickrud> acidburns, rm -r <dir>
[01:00] <Ap0s7le> I tried... gedit http.conf and it doesn't open it
[01:00] <drucer> Anyone know what "shutting down torrent tracker" means? I see this line every time I shut down Ubuntu dapper. Does this mean that Dapper comes with some torrent tracker software preinstalled?
[01:00] <acidburns> thanxz nickrud
[01:01] <ZahlerSchlagen> hey everybody!
[01:01] <drucer> acidburns, "rm -Rf <folder name>".
[01:01] <tobberoth_> Anyone who uses BitTornado?
[01:02] <nickrud> drucer, did you do a save session while a torrent was running? (guessing)
[01:02] <JackRazz> nickrud, if the live cd did automatically mount the fat32 partition, where would it be in my filesystem?
[01:02] <nickrud> JackRazz, somewhere under /media
[01:02] <ZahlerSchlagen> Tobberoth_: I use uTorrent
[01:02] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone here have an rt61 WiFi card or no how to configure one?
[01:02] <JackRazz> nickrud, ok thanks.
[01:02] <funkmaster> jackrazz: it will probably not mount it automatically
[01:02] <funkmaster> when u go to the command line and type mount
[01:02] <funkmaster> u should c the mounted devices and where they r monted
[01:02] <drucer> nickrud, not sure about that. That might have happened. I'm just wondering if some bittorrent software is still running in the background. Hope not.
[01:03] <__mikem> Hello, it looks like the local ops took care of that problem last night?
[01:03] <tobberoth_> ZahlerSchlagen: uTorrent 1.5 doesn't work on Wine :( Won't connect to tracker.
[01:03] <ZahlerSchlagen> sad panda
[01:03] <funkmaster> druver: run top and check whats running
[01:03] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone here have an rt61 WiFi card or no how to configure one?
[01:03] <MFen> does anyone here how i can found out whether the livecd has a particular package on it or not?
[01:03] <JackRazz> ok everyone, thanks...I'll go try all this now...thanks again for all the help
[01:03] <nickrud> drucer, run gnome-system-monitor , it'll tell you all your running processes
[01:03] <antox> ZahlerSchlagen: try ndiswrapper.
[01:04] <ZahlerSchlagen> antox: there is a linux driver
[01:04] <funkmaster> Mfen: check on the web or run the live cd go to synaptic packet manager and look for it
[01:04] <LjL> MFen: do you *have* the live cd? also, note that you can *install* new packages from the net when you're on the live cd
[01:04] <funkmaster> indeed
[01:04] <MFen> LjL: it's an awful lot of data to download if it doesn't have what i need on it...
[01:04] <ZahlerSchlagen> Ubuntu 6.06 comes with the rt61 driver! But i can't configure the card. i et a siocflags error
[01:04] <__mikem> LjL don't forget you can also install the distro itself from the new live cd's
[01:04] <drucer> OK, I had a look at the processes. No mention of any process with *torrent in it's name. So, it is not normal to see that message every time you shut down?
[01:04] <funkmaster> it's la cd
[01:04] <MFen> LjL: also note that i need ndiswrapper, so the net isn't gonna be there for me
[01:05] <MFen> funkmaster: on the web *where* though?
[01:05] <funkmaster> drucer: afaik not
[01:05] <antox> ZahlerSchlagen: what's the name of your card?
[01:05] <drucer> funkmaster, OK, that's good to know. I need to find out what's causing that.
[01:05] <funkmaster> hm dunno but i guess google shoud be useful
[01:05] <ZahlerSchlagen> it's got the rt2561 chipset, a giga-byte card
[01:05] <ZahlerSchlagen> uses rt61 driver
[01:05] <ZahlerSchlagen> which i have on my windows :/
[01:05] <ZahlerSchlagen> dual-boot
[01:06] <ZahlerSchlagen> it wont work under ubuntu though
[01:06] <__mikem> ZahlerSchlagen what in gods name is a giga-byte card?
[01:06] <LjL> MFen: i'll make you a list if i can find a cd
[01:06] <ZahlerSchlagen> giga-byte is a brand
[01:06] <ZahlerSchlagen> it's a WiFi card 802.11b/g
[01:06] <MFen> LjL: that would be cool
[01:06] <__mikem> Oh
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> in iwconfig it is showed
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> ra0
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> but when i try to assign it an addres my machine locks up
[01:07] <Tmob> anyone here have a Dell d410 laptop?
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> or do anything with it
[01:07] <Tmob> i can't figure which wireless card i have
[01:07] <Tmob> it says unknown broadcom
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> and i have the firmware in the /etc/Wireless/RT61STA dir
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> yeah
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> mine says unknown realtek
[01:07] <Tmob> and bcm43xx doesn't work.. so trying to see wehre i can get the driver from..
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> ubuntu has bad wireless support
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> :/
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> all linux has poor wireless support
[01:07] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[01:08] <Tmob> ZahlerSchlagen, yea i have installed it on btoh my laptops and both of their wifi dont work
[01:08] <ZahlerSchlagen> blast it
[01:08] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone know how this can be remedied/
[01:08] <Tmob> i think its betters to stick with  ndiswrapper until bcm43xx drivers get stable
[01:08] <robertj> I think we have officially moved from bad to poor
[01:08] <robertj> hurray
[01:08] <Tmob> ZahlerSchlagen, ndiswrapper works very well
[01:08] <ZahlerSchlagen> hmm
[01:08] <ZahlerSchlagen> how do i uninstall the linux driver, then?
[01:09] <eternaljoy> eobanb: are you a developer?
[01:10] <ZahlerSchlagen> two questions folks. where can i find deb URLS for ndiswrapper and how do you uninstall a driver?
[01:10] <LjL> err, does anybody have the /etc/apt/sources.list line for the Ubuntu Dapper CD-ROM?
[01:10] <boricua> trying to configure cups via localhost:631 keeps asking me for password how do i set one up for cups?
[01:11] <mjr> LjL, sudo apt-cdrom add should add it
[01:11] <Jemt> bobslaede: Just enter 'root' and your own password
[01:11] <ZahlerSchlagen> LjL
[01:11] <ZahlerSchlagen> i concur wth mjr
[01:11] <ZahlerSchlagen> lol
[01:11] <nickrud> LjL, if you're looking for the package list, it's in /casper/filesystem.manifest in the desktop cd
[01:11] <boricua> Jemt, that does not do it
[01:11] <LjL> mjr: hm, cool, but... does the Dapper Desktop CD count as a CD repository? :-\
[01:11] <LjL> nickrud: right, thanks
[01:11] <Jemt> boricua: Ah, root is not enabled.
[01:11] <boricua> Jemt, remeber it ubuntu root has no password
[01:12] <mjr> LjL, oh. Yeah. Desktop. Dunno.
[01:12] <tobberoth_> Hmm, does ubuntu have some form of natural firewall? I seem to be firewalled on bittorrent
[01:12] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone know how to uninstall a driver?
[01:12] <__mikem> sudo passwd root is great
[01:12] <antox> ZahlerSchlagen: ndis is @ http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[01:12] <boricua> Jemt, even if you enable it it will not work its noot looking for regular root passwd
[01:12] <bbrazil> tobberoth_: the kernel has iptables, but it shouldn't be in use
[01:12] <Jemt> boricua: Why don't you use "Printing" in Administration or Preferences?
[01:12] <Flannel> __mikem: please don't recommend people set a root password.
[01:12] <ZahlerSchlagen> thanks antox
[01:12] <LjL> mjr, nickrud: so does the "ex-Live-now-Desktop-CD" not act as a repository anymore? :o)
[01:12] <Jemt> boricua: Hm, it should..
[01:13] <boricua> Jemt: i am troubleshoot an exisiting problem with my printer
[01:13] <antox> about uninstalling... try to delete that module (?) but I don't know...
[01:13] <nickrud> LjL, if it's like the alternate cd, yes it does
[01:13] <boricua> Jemt, try it
[01:13] <yallaman> is there a temp monitoring app for ubuntu?
[01:13] <Jemt> bobslaede: Try what ?
[01:13] <antox> yallaman: try acpi
[01:13] <boricua> Jemt, using root passwd if you think it should
[01:13] <LjL> nickrud: well i don't have an alternate cd handy, but with the desktop cd, apt-cdrom doesn't recognize it as a source
[01:13] <dr3wster> hey, has anyone here been able to get beagle to index a fat32 partition?  I followed their FAQ to create a static index, but I've still got nothing.  Any ideas?
[01:14] <nickrud> LjL, check that, when I reinstalled yesterday, it asked for the cd for some updates; I cancelled & changed the sources
[01:14] <Jemt> boricua: I'm using Debian
[01:14] <__mikem> hey, what command do I use to see who owns a particular file?
[01:14] <dr3wster> hey, has anyone here been able to get beagle to index a fat32 partition?  I followed their FAQ to create a static index, but I've still got nothing.  Any ideas?
[01:14] <robertj> does gnome iso burner work with dvds?
[01:14] <antox> _mikem: ls -l <filename>
[01:14] <constantine-xvi> how do you manually insert the package lists into apt?  i keep getting 403s from apt, but can get them from the browser
[01:14] <LjL> MFen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16488
[01:14] <__mikem> ok thanks
[01:14] <tobberoth_> I wish uTorrent would just work.. seems impossible to find a decent torrent program for ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:14] <robertj> I right clicked & wrote to disk & inserted a dvd but it just says to insert a disk with 4597 free
[01:14] <aviation> hello, has anyone here setup a nvidia card on dapper, specifically a geforce fx 5200
[01:15] <nickrud> dr3wster, not a doable thing, vfat does not support user_xattr
[01:15] <dr3wster> tobberoth_, what's so bad about azureus?
[01:15] <bbrazil> constantine-xvi: do an apt=get update, see if that fixes it
[01:15] <he-man> tobberoth_: try azureus
[01:15] <nickrud> dr3wster, or whatever the exact attribute is
[01:15] <tobberoth_> dr3wster: It's a memory hog since it's coded in Java. It's slow and ugly. It won't even let me download files.
[01:15] <dr3wster> nickrud, http://beagle-project.org/Static_Indexes says that I can by building a static index manually and then adding it to beagle... but it's not working
[01:15] <constantine-xvi> bbrazil: no dice, still getting 403s
[01:15] <he-man> aviation: I've got a geforce fx 5200 Go on my laptop and have no problems
[01:15] <LjL> constantine-xvi: which repositories are you using?
[01:15] <constantine-xvi> 403 == forbidden error
[01:16] <LjL> constantine-xvi: i mean with mirrors. try using some others
[01:16] <nickrud> dr3wster, I wasn't aware you could do that.
[01:16] <dr3wster> tobberoth_, that'll do it:-p.  I dunno, it's less of a memory hog for me for some reason and I always run it minimized.
[01:16] <LjL> constantine-xvi: s/with/which/
[01:16] <dr3wster> nickrud, haha, well I can in theory... buuut it doesn't actually work for some reason:(
[01:16] <tobberoth_> I just wanted to get uTorrent working >_< stupid Wine.
[01:16] <constantine-xvi> LjL: tried us.archive, archive, se.archive, among others, but not working
[01:16] <calebt> How can i do work the back and forward buttons of my Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 4.0
[01:16] <yallaman> antox: seems that acpi is installed allready..how do i use it? would be nice with some desklet or somthing to have on desktop
[01:16] <LjL> constantine-xvi: do you have a (DSL) router?
[01:17] <bbrazil> constantine-xvi: try a different mirror? flush your proxy cahce (if any)?
[01:17] <antox> yallaman: I use acpi -Vs
[01:17] <constantine-xvi> LjL: yes
[01:17] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone know how to uninstall a driver?
[01:17] <LjL> constantine-xvi: look at your /etc/resolv.conf -- is your router set as the DNS server?
[01:17] <dr3wster> so, has anyone else had experience with using beagle for fat32 drives?
[01:17] <antox> yallaman: sorry, dunno anything w/ gui.
[01:18] <calebt> How can i do work the back and forward buttons of my Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 4.0
[01:18] <calebt> ?
[01:18] <constantine-xvi> LjL: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> (the router)
[01:18] <Jemt> caleb: Repeating the question dosn't help
[01:18] <LjL> constantine-xvi: right. try changing that into <IP_ADDRESS>, and then try again the apt-get update
[01:18] <lonegeek> what program will rip a cd to mp3?
[01:18] <LjL> constantine-xvi: (that IP's a DNS server that i know works)
[01:19] <aviation> he-man, are you running dapper?
[01:19] <constantine-xvi> LjL: still 403s
[01:20] <calebt> How can i do work the back and forward buttons of my Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 4.0 USB in Ubuntu Dapper 6.06???
[01:20] <constantine-xvi> LjL: if i copy/paste the urls into firefox, i get the lists
[01:20] <he-man> aviation: yes, but now that you tell me that... I installed some days ago dapper in my PC some days ago with a Geforce 5500 FX and just before entering gdm
[01:20] <constantine-xvi> but apt-get returns 403s
[01:20] <Jemt> caleb: Stop repeating your question !
[01:20] <he-man> aviation: the background remains black
[01:20] <spades> caleb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[01:20] <LjL> constantine-xvi: hmm, ok. i'll explain why i asked you to do this --- some guy had encountered a problem with 403s and other errors on apt-get, due to the fact that his router model messed up DNS when requests came too fast. that's why i had you try another server
[01:20] <calebt> Jemt please answer me
[01:20] <LjL> constantine-xvi: can you paste both your sources.list and the errors you're getting from apt-get update to the pastebin?
[01:20] <Jemt> caleb: There is probably no one that knows the question. If there is, they will try to help you
[01:21] <calebt> Thank Spades
[01:21] <constantine-xvi> LjL: please hold...
[01:21] <CodeWarrior_> Id want to install AMD64 version (Dapper) , but my main use of the machine is desktop stuff. Id like to know if theres a way to compile programs for 64bits using the 32bits version of the OS ?
[01:21] <Flannel> calebt: Ive got a link for you, let me fish it up.
[01:21] <bruenig> codewarrior_, you can set up a chroot
[01:21] <theshibboleth> I juar installed Ubuntu, and I'm trying to get my wireless network to work, but everytime I click to activate the wirless connection the system freezes
[01:22] <__mikem> that never happened to me before
[01:22] <Flannel> calebt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[01:22] <calebt> Thakns Flannel
[01:22] <Stormx2> Oh finally... kzenexplorer... brilliant.
[01:22] <CodeWarrior_> bruenig: install the 32bits and make a 64bits chroot ?
[01:22] <nickrud> CodeWarrior_, if your main use is desktop, stick with the i386 version. You can run 32 bit stuff in a chroot on 64 bit, and edgy supposely will support running 32 bit stuff
[01:22] <ice228> how do i instal a .bin file
[01:22] <mjr> CodeWarrior_, you could, but you'd have to jump through some hoops. Probably easiest would be to run a 64-bit kernel regardless of the main userland
[01:22] <aviation> he-man, did you just install this driver? "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common" ?
[01:23] <antox> ice228:  how about just launching it?
[01:23] <bruenig> codewarrior_, i misread it
[01:23] <__mikem> ice228 chmod 777 file.bin exec file.bin
[01:23] <Jemt> ice228:   ./myBinFile.bin
[01:23] <ice228> Couldn't display "/home/ice228/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[01:23] <garryF> !wireless > theshibboleth
[01:23] <__mikem> ice228 do a chmod777 on the file first
[01:23] <__mikem> * chmod 777
[01:23] <ice228> how?
[01:23] <Jemt> ice228: requires you to do 'chmod +x myBinFile.bin' first, which will grant execution rights
[01:23] <__mikem> chmod 777 filename
[01:23] <aviation> he-man, or did you also edit "xorg.conf", i guess the simple question would be what did you do to get this card working properly
[01:23] <ice228> do i do that in terminal
[01:23] <__mikem> I like octal digets better
[01:23] <nickrud> or sh file.bin , no chmod needed
[01:24] <he-man> aviation: yes, I did it and then I tried "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" but it's the same for me.
[01:24] <Jemt> ice228: In one command:  chmod +x myBinFile.bin && ./myBinFile.bin
[01:24] <CodeWarrior_> so, better to install 64bits version and use a 32bit chroot ?
[01:24] <Jemt> ice228: If the file requires administration privileges:  chmod +x myBinFile.bin && sudo ./myBinFile.bin
[01:24] <antox> nickrud: does sh file.bin really work?!
[01:24] <nickrud> CodeWarrior_, if you're comfortable running chroots, that's the way to go for now
[01:24] <__mikem> thats what I would like to know
[01:24] <he-man> aviation: I couldn't. In my laptop I've had dapper installed before being released and I simply updated it
[01:24] <__mikem> I thought sh was only for shell scripts
[01:24] <he-man> aviation: which is your problem exactly?
[01:25] <he-man> aviation: the same as mine?
[01:25] <nickrud> __mikem, no, sh is a shell: and it works
[01:25] <theshibboleth> Is the system freezing when one activates a wireless network a common/known problem?
[01:25] <CodeWarrior_> :-/
[01:25] <garryF> !wifi
[01:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:25] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Using Dapper ?
[01:25] <hareem> can some one help me setup openkiosk
[01:25] <hareem> please
[01:25] <constantine-xvi> LjL:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16489
[01:26] <theshibboleth> Jemt: yes, I'm using dapper
[01:26] <antox> nickrud: no, it doesn't.
[01:26] <theshibboleth> I set up the network properly, I just don't understand why it freezes
[01:26] <aviation> he-man, before i installed the drivers i only had 1024 x 768, which is low for this card right, now that i installed the driver i have 640 x 480 only for some reason
[01:26] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Downgrade to Breezy.  It is not ready for use. It is seriously unstable - Several threads on the Ubuntu Forum proves that. Breezy is the bomb though. But if you want the most recent software, I would recommend Debian
[01:26] <hareem> hey. can someone please help me setup openkiosk
[01:26] <nickrud> antox, ok, you tested one that didn't. My bad then
[01:26] <caleb> just to be clear
[01:26] <digi> hey looks like my soundcard(sb-awe) isnt supported, i can enable it (dontr remember how) but i need to do it everytime i reboot, HELP!
[01:26] <caleb> there is or was a "calebt"
[01:27] <caleb> which is different from me
[01:27] <caleb> haha
[01:27] <caleb> i scrolled up and was like "i didnt repeat my question... ?"
[01:27] <digi> anyone?
[01:27] <ice228> it wont let me write to the bin folder and i do have admin priviliges
[01:27] <theshibboleth> Jemt: Is there a way to downgrade from within Dapper? Before when I tried to install Breezy it was not able to install the Linux kernel.
[01:27] <constantine-xvi> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16489
[01:27] <ocr---> LjL: thanks for the excellent help earlier today, just letting you know I've now restored the entire system!
[01:27] <nickrud> digi, you did a modprobe on a module to get it working?
[01:27] <ocr---> bcl: thanks for the excellent help earlier today, just letting you know I've now restored the entire system!
[01:27] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Nope
[01:28] <digi> yes
[01:28] <digi> nickrud:
[01:28] <LjL> ocr---: extracted dpkg by hand?
[01:28] <Jemt> theshibboleth: I would recommend Debian. It's the same installation procedure
[01:28] <he-man> aviation: you can change that in your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11. In section Screen, subsection Display
[01:28] <nickrud> digi, add that module name to /etc/modules , it'll install automatically at each boot
[01:28] <hareem>  hey. can someone please help me setup openkiosk
[01:28] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Except that you only get a "base" system (console)
[01:28] <he-man> add whatever mode you want to use
[01:28] <digi> oh ok
[01:28] <digi> thx
[01:28] <ice228> anyone know why it wont let me write to a folder even i f i have admin priviliges?
[01:28] <halitech> hareem, what have you done so far?
[01:28] <calebt> lol
[01:28] <theshibboleth> Jemt: alright. I'll look into it. Thanks.
[01:28] <Jemt> theshibboleth: I have created 3 shell scripts that setup my computer with Debian - I could send them to you
[01:28] <ocr---> LjL & bcl: it just needed 5 hours of sleep and then just extracting all "required" packages by hand ignoring /etc :]
[01:28] <hareem> i installed berkely DB
[01:28] <hareem> thats about it
[01:28] <Jemt> theshibboleth: What CPU do you have ?
[01:28] <digi> hum what do i need to type again? "sudo modprobe [something goes here]
[01:28] <bruenig> ice228, you must not have admin priviledges?
[01:29] <bbrazil> ice228: ls -ld; id
[01:29] <aviation> he-man, i think i need some help with that, i dont know what to edit,
[01:29] <ice228> my account has admin proiviliges, i have write read and all that
[01:29] <theshibboleth> Jemt: umm... I'm not sure if I would be able to tell you immediately... let me look it up
[01:29] <hareem> i cant seem to do the rest
[01:29] <LjL> ocr---: heh, well you *are* determined. i'd never do that :)
[01:29] <hareem> thats why i need help
[01:29] <LjL> constantine-xvi: well, i can confirm that your sources.list works for me
[01:29] <bruenig> ice228, you have admin priviledges but not root priviledges
[01:29] <he-man> ok, I can paste an example, but only if you know the resolution you want for your screen
[01:29] <digi> nickrud: you there?
[01:29] <he-man> aviation:ok, I can paste an example, but only if you know the resolution you want for your screen
[01:30] <halitech> what errors are you getting and what version of ubuntu?
[01:30] <nickrud> digi, herm, the sb awe is a pnp card ...
[01:30] <ice228> how do i get root priviliges
[01:30] <digi> yes
[01:30] <antox> ice228: sudo su
[01:30] <bruenig> ice228, go into a terminal and type 'sudo -s' enter your password and you will have root privileges for all the commands of that terminal session
[01:30] <antox> ice228: but rather do "sudo ./file.bin"
[01:30] <hareem> halitech: can you please help me
[01:30] <eternaljoy> eobanb: are you a developer?
[01:30] <constantine-xvi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16489\
[01:31] <nickrud> digi, I don't know sound very well, I'll look about. What exact card do you have, according to lspci
[01:31] <LjL> constantine-xvi: i've seen that man ;-) i'm looking at it, as i said, it works for me, and i'm not sure what could be wrong
[01:31] <r3dhat> can anyone tell me if i need a bootloader to install ubuntu or can i use a boot disk
[01:31] <r3dhat> *not install to boot from
[01:31] <MFen> LjL: thanks.  sadly, ndiswrapper isn't in that list ...
[01:32] <hareem>  hey. can someone please help me setup openkiosk
[01:32] <jaggz-> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/158
[01:32] <jaggz-> there's a python script later on in that page which lists all the packages and their install times
[01:32] <constantine-xvi> LjL: my bad, was gutting another machine for something else
[01:32] <jaggz-> (quoted in the page so you'll see it)
[01:32] <hareem>  hey. can someone please help me setup openkiosk
[01:33] <J-_> what's good widget software that i can install?
[01:33] <jaggz-> put that in a file and run:  ./thatfile | sort -n | less   and you can see packages installed together so you can remove them (like I just installed something and its dependencies end up being many many many megs .. I might not even use the thing.
[01:33] <tzadik> hi
[01:33] <halitech> hareem, repeating your question isn't going to get help if no one has the answers
[01:33] <tzadik> i used to have dma working
[01:33] <andriijas> how do i create a sit1 device?
[01:33] <tzadik> but now that i upgraded to dapper
[01:33] <tzadik> dms is no longer working
[01:33] <bruenig> j-_, gdesklets is ok
[01:33] <tzadik> i get slow burning
[01:33] <Jemt> theshibboleth: I haft to go for about half an hour - MSG the answer
[01:33] <hareem> ah... come on man. This is the ubuntu community
[01:33] <J-_> thanks, i'll check it out
[01:33] <hareem> you guys are pros at this
[01:34] <tzadik> and i get HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[01:34] <hareem> im new to linux and to ubuntu. I wanted to setup a kiosk.
[01:34] <bruenig> hareem, you can't expect people to be able to use every piece of software that exists
[01:34] <tzadik> from hdparm
[01:34] <crimsun> hareem: paid support is where the "pros" reside.
[01:34] <hareem> ok.
[01:34] <r3dhat> can anyone tell me if i need a bootloader to boot Ubuntu or can i make a bootdisk like fedora?
[01:34] <bruenig> hareem, do you need help installing it or configuring?
[01:34] <hareem> both
[01:34] <hareem> i need to set it up for a cyber cafe
[01:35] <bruenig> hareem, what is the name of the file
[01:35] <hareem> nodeview
[01:35] <Locke_> my synaptic wont work along with any other package too, they say that java5 needs to be reinstalled but it cant find the package, and repositories has nothing listed, but i cant add anything to it
[01:35] <bruenig> is it .tar.gz is it a .bin or what?
[01:36] <yallaman> is Lmsensors usable on ubuntu? or is there another way i can have a little icon/window showing hd/cpu/case temps?
[01:36] <LjL> constantine-xvi: well, i can honestly say i don't have a clue. you should probably purge/clean your list of packages, but i don't know and can't find the right command for that.
[01:36] <Locke_> gdesklets
[01:36] <hareem> the software is called open kiosk. It needs berkely DB and QT 3.x or higher to work
[01:36] <hareem> i managed to install berkely
[01:36] <bruenig> what is the full name of the file that you downloaded
[01:36] <yallaman> hareem: that i need lmsensors for..right?
[01:36] <tzadik> what is HDIO_GETGEO
[01:37] <tzadik> anyway?
[01:37] <halitech> here is alink to the software I think hareem is talking about http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/docs.htm
[01:37] <jaggz-> what would my JAVA_HOME be?
[01:37] <hareem> i went through the docs
[01:37] <eternaljoy> how can I upgrade to Opera 9?
[01:37] <hareem> there is just one problem
[01:37] <hareem> i cant setup QT 3.x
[01:37] <hareem> i dont know how to set it up
[01:37] <eternaljoy> hareem: ok
[01:37] <hareem> thats where the problem is
[01:38] <LjL> hareem: you've been asked for the URL to the file. please give that. otherwise few people will be able to help, if they don't *have* the program.
[01:38] <jaggz-> I'm trying to install the voice recognition Sphynx project (http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/html/cmusphinx.php)
[01:38] <theshibboleth> Jemt: I'm afraid I can't find the info
[01:38] <jaggz-> I installed ant (apache ant) and am trying to handle the rest of the sphinx install.. having a few problems
[01:38] <jaggz-> ohh.. nevermind.. forgot to search the web for it first.. nevermind.
[01:39] <J-_> can i have gdesklets run when gtk 2.0 is running as well? i had a huge confliction last time i tried rendering the gui.. nautilus messed up HUGE, forget what software i tried to use though
[01:39] <hareem> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/openkiosk/nodeview-2.0.3.tar.gz?download
[01:39] <hareem> the download file link is : http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/openkiosk/nodeview-2.0.3.tar.gz?download
[01:39] <eternaljoy> how can I remove Opera from Ubuntu?
[01:39] <hareem> i really appreciate what you guys are doing for me
[01:39] <CodeWarrior_> bye bye guys, thanks for the tips
[01:39] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Ok. I can send you two out of three installer scripts I have made. The last was for ACPI and CPU Scaling support. Just make sure you load 'acpi' in /etc/modules - then you should have Power Management support.
[01:39] <r3dhat> can anyone tell me if i need a bootloader to boot Ubuntu or can i make a bootdisk like fedora?
[01:40] <LjL> hareem: so it's not even the actual openkiosk that you're installed, but this nodeview module?
[01:40] <nickrud> eternaljoy, apt-get remove opera, if you used a repo. Otherwise, where'd you install it?
[01:40] <hareem> ?
[01:40] <eegore> quit
[01:40] <hareem> open kiosk is a client server software
[01:41] <hareem> the server module is nodeview
[01:41] <eternaljoy> nickrud: im downloading opera for breezy! it ends in .deb
[01:41] <eternaljoy> nickrud: how I install it?
[01:41] <spades> sudo dpkg -i file
[01:41] <nickrud> r3dhat, yes, you can make an install disk and not write grub. you'll need to use the expert install, though
[01:41] <J-_> why woldn't you use a repo, much easier...
[01:41] <r3dhat> ok thank you
[01:41] <nickrud> eternaljoy, sudo dpkg -i <file> , or if you're on dapper, just click it in the file manager
[01:41] <jmichaelx> i have four computers connected to a router, all four computers are usually running x/k/ubuntu (although OCCASIONALLY one may be running XP)... and i am wanting all four computers to share one printer. could someone direct me to a wiki or a forum where there would be instructions for this??
[01:42] <eternaljoy> nickrud: do I type dpkg -i opera.deb ?
[01:42] <nickrud> eternaljoy, whatever the name of the deb is, yes (and use sudo, of course)
[01:42] <tzadik> ok let me ask in a simpler
[01:42] <eternaljoy> nickrud: so dapper made it easier?
[01:42] <tzadik> way
[01:42] <antox> eternaljoy: sudo dpkg -i opera.deb
[01:42] <robertj> is 4711824 too big for a dvdr?
[01:42] <tzadik> my dvd and cd used to be fast burning in breezy
[01:42] <tzadik> now in dapper they are slow
[01:42] <nickrud> eternaljoy, yes, they're using the gdebi tool, it's a gui deb installer
[01:42] <hareem> i went through the forum for this also. But i could not make any sense of it
[01:42] <tzadik> what do i do?
[01:42] <hareem> please help
[01:42] <eternaljoy> nickrud: file manager as in Nautilus?
[01:43] <nickrud> eternaljoy, yes
[01:43] <eternaljoy> antox: ok
[01:43] <eternaljoy> nickrud: well thats a good reason to upgreade to dapper :)
[01:43] <LjL> hareem: look, do me a favor and tell me the package you used for berkeley db. i'm not sure which one i should install
[01:43] <eternaljoy> nickrud: ty
[01:43] <nickrud> eternaljoy, a trivial one, actually.
[01:43] <hareem> ok
[01:43] <eternaljoy> nickrud: define trivial
[01:44] <deameyes> anyone here work on podzilla?
[01:44] <hareem> here is the link for the DB: http://dev.sleepycat.com/downloads/optreg.html?fname=db-4.4.20.tar.gz&prod=core
[01:44] <LjL> hareem: oh, it's not a package in dapper? hmm
[01:45] <hareem> no. you have to complie and install it
[01:45] <hareem> but its not as hard as that QT
[01:45] <nickrud> eternaljoy, in this case, a gui that takes 3-4 times longer than dpkg -i
[01:46] <amonkey> i'm buying a laptop and have a choice between a atheros super ag and a intel pro/wireless 3945ABG. which is more ubuntu and linux friendly? is there a significant difference either way?
[01:47] <codecaine> is there a way to roll back update the update got my graphics card nto working right with certain programs
[01:47] <Raito> What is the default rom path for xmame?
[01:48] <nickrud> amonkey, maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported can help you decide
[01:48] <hareem> i tried to load every lib that had the text "QT" in it. But unfortunately, its not working
[01:49] <J-_> how would i install a widget if it's a tar.gz?
[01:49] <nickrud> hareem, did you install the -dev versions of those libraries (needed for compiling)
[01:49] <hareem> yes
[01:49] <CarlFK> how come my box beeps every 30 min or so?  (^G pc speaker kinda beep, not from my sound card)
[01:49] <bruenig> J-_, go into terminal first and type tar -zxvf /path/to/whatever.tar.gz
[01:49] <hareem> but node view setup still says that qt is not installed
[01:50] <hareem> i dont know how that is possible
[01:50] <LjL> hareem: hmm, what about if you try after doing "export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3"
[01:50] <J-_> and that's it bruenig?
[01:51] <hareem> ? how can i do that
[01:51] <__mikem> GAIM is a hell of an irc client
[01:51] <Migit03> Anyone know if a AMD64 version of wine exists for Ubuntu (DD)? I've looked all over and I've turned up no working (i.e. works for a noob like me) solutions.
[01:52] <__mikem> Migit03 try vmware server on for size
[01:52] <Raito> Migit03: It doesn't exist, use the normal one in 32bit mode
[01:52] <LjL> hareem: just type that in the shell. if it doesn't work, try also "export QTDIR=/usr/lib", and/or   "export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3"
[01:52] <J-_> i like either kvirc, or bitchx =D
[01:52] <LjL> hareem: and/or "export QTDIR=/usr/include/qt3"
[01:52] <__mikem> J-_ I like irssi, but I think I am going to use gaim as an irc client from now on
[01:52] <J-_> could always go with irssi... a little more difficult =S
[01:52] <antox> what's then bad with gaim?
[01:52] <Migit03> Raito: It won't even let  me get the package for wine though (using synaptic)
[01:52] <hareem> export QTDIR=/usr/include/qt3 is this what i should type it
[01:53] <LjL> hareem: yes, try with that, then try installing, and if it doesn't work, try with the others i just told you
[01:53] <PreZ> hum, going through and selecting packages to install is exhausting when you include 'universe' .. ;)
[01:53] <Raito> Migit03: I would recommend just using the 32bit version of ubuntu, it is pretty much the same >_>
[01:53] <Migit03> argh, no performance loss?
[01:54] <__mikem> Migit03 I must again recomend vmware is the best way to go
[01:54] <nickrud> utility vs performance in some niche cases: i386 hands down
[01:54] <hareem> LjL man you are one hell of a genius
[01:54] <J-_> man, ubuntu kicks  a lot more arse than suse... ubuntu runs way smoother
[01:54] <LjL> hareem: works?
[01:54] <Migit03> mikem:I'll try it out
[01:54] <hareem>  i dont know what magic you did man but its working... its telling me to make install
[01:54] <__mikem> J-_ ubuntu hasn't been number 1 on distrowatch's top 10 for several years for nothing
[01:54] <LjL> hareem: as i suspected, that's a pretty horrible configure script
[01:55] <LjL> hareem: anyway, there's really no guarantee make and make install will work. but try
[01:55] <J-_> heh, well teh first distro i tried was suse 10, big mistake with a crappy system, i pretty much gave up..
[01:55] <J-_> then i was like hell, ubuntu sounds cool
[01:55] <J-_> so i tried it
[01:55] <hareem> its compiling
[01:55] <hareem> so it should work
[01:56] <hareem> so what stupidity was i performing that the script was not loading up
[01:56] <LjL> hareem: you weren't doing anything wrong. it's the script that's stupid
[01:56] <yallaman> um..does anyone use Lm-sensors here..need some help to get it running i think
[01:56] <BIAF> I need webmin help with 'Disk Quotas' how to install it or enable it
[01:56] <eternaljoy> is there a GUI in Ubuntu to remove programs?
[01:57] <Flannel> eternaljoy: yep.  synaptic
[01:57] <hareem> so i have to export that qt thing if i have to install this on a different machine
[01:57] <eternaljoy> Flannel: ok
[01:58] <eternaljoy> Flannel: do I need to remove Opera 8.51 before I install v9.0?
[01:58] <eternaljoy> nickrud: do I need to remove Opera 8.51 before I install v9.0?
[01:59] <nickrud> eternaljoy, depends on how you installed 8.51: if you used a deb, no
[01:59] <__mikem> Why do you install opera, firefox is better
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[01:59] <eternaljoy> nickrud: how can I know how it was installed?
[01:59] <eternaljoy> nickrud: cant remember
[01:59] <digi> nickrud: lspci doesnt detect my card, even when i enable it
[01:59] <nickrud> eternaljoy, dpkg -l opera ; if it shows there, you used a deb
[01:59] <Migit03> where can I find the .vmx files to run windows programs?
[02:00] <__mikem> Migit03 you have to install windows on the virtual machine
[02:00] <nickrud> digi, yeah, pnp isa cards are not something I know much about. You should watch for crimsun in this space
[02:00] <__mikem> by the way, what does mode -j mean
[02:00] <Migit03> oic
[02:00] <eternaljoy> nickrud: ii  opera                 8.51-20051114.6       The Opera Web Browser
[02:00] <digi> ok
[02:01] <pike_> anyone familar with thunar? im have a little script in sbin that is basically like mplayer cue://$@:2 i made it so its be easier for my parents to play bin/cue movies they just need to click on it and it will play. i just need some advise on telling thunar the associated action
[02:01] <eternaljoy> nickrud: so I dont need to remove? I just install the new opera?
[02:01] <nickrud> eternaljoy, then you used a deb. sudo dpkg -i will replace 8.51
[02:01] <J-_> isn't there a lot of "vulnerbilities" when you run a windows program on linux?
[02:01] <eternaljoy> nickrud: ok
[02:01] <digi> well nickrud ill just look in the forum maybe theres a soundcard troubleshootin thread  or something, thx for your help
[02:01] <nickrud> don't know about vulnerabilties, but tainting for sure ;)
[02:01] <LjL> Migit03: www.easyvmx.com allows you to create virtual machines
[02:01] <J-_> lol
[02:02] <nickrud> digi, I'm sure there is, but if you can catch crimsun, he's the ubuntu sound guru
[02:02] <digi> ok
[02:02] <__mikem> is easyvmx licensed by vmware
[02:02] <crimsun> ?
[02:02] <roostishaw> how do i get rid of the animationwhen i minimize a window
[02:02] <nickrud> sb awe, crimsun
[02:02] <__mikem> hey crimsun what does mode -j mean
[02:02] <roostishaw> *animation when
[02:02] <LjL> __mikem: no, i don't think so. nor do i think that creating a config file could ever be in any way illegal...
[02:02] <crimsun> digi: ``sudo modprobe snd-sbawe''
[02:02] <digi> crimsun: my soundcard isnt detected its a sound blaster awe
[02:03] <digi> yeah i just did that
[02:03] <crimsun> digi: did it return to a prompt or spit out an error?
[02:03] <digi> no promp but i have sound
[02:03] <crimsun> digi: good.
[02:03] <__mikem> it will create a machine with windows installed on it, that CAN'T be legal
[02:03] <digi> but
[02:03] <LjL> __mikem: no, it certainly won't create a machine with windows installed on it
[02:03] <digi> what do i do so i dont need to do sudo modprobe snd_sbawe each time i reboot?
[02:04] <crimsun> digi: echo snd-sbawe |sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[02:04] <LjL> __mikem: it'll simply create an empty virtual drive (just like qemu-image can do), and a config file with the options you tell it
[02:04] <eternaljoy> VoX: hi :)
[02:04] <digi> i@linuxdid:~$ echo snd-sbawe | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[02:04] <digi> snd-sbawe
[02:04] <crimsun> digi: yep, you're all set.
[02:04] <LjL> __mikem: if you then want to install Windows on it, nothing's stopping you from doing that as long as you have a licensed copy
[02:04] <__mikem> OH, so its sort of like the virtual machine wizard in Workstation eddition
[02:04] <digi> wow thanks crimsun
[02:04] <LjL> __mikem: correct
[02:04] <digi> ;)
[02:04] <crimsun> digi: np
[02:04] <digi> take care now
[02:04] <__mikem> oh, ok
[02:05] <LjL> __mikem: i'm sure there are programs around that do the very same thing. but using that site is easy enough that i never looked for any
[02:05] <LjL> (well, an obvious - free - candidate is vmware server, but then...)
[02:05] <__mikem> LjL theres vmware server for starters
[02:06] <nickrud> hundreds of dollars to run windows, I think not
[02:06] <LjL> yeah but then you'd probably go on using that rather than using the player :-) at any rate, i'm not sure vmware server is terribly easy to install
[02:06] <LjL> nickrud: there's always reactos. the original question was about "running windows applications" i think
[02:06] <__mikem> LjL I tried it once before my brother bought me workstation, it it is very easy to install, atleast on windows
[02:06] <LjL> (of course, there's also wine then)
[02:06] <nickrud> there's also defenstration ;)
[02:07] <J-_> wine *shutters*
[02:07] <__mikem> nickrud what?
[02:07] <LjL> __mikem: i have no doubts it's easy on windows, but on ubuntu it's a bit of another matter. the vmware player comes in Multiverse, together with the necessary kernel modules...
[02:07] <Raito> What is the default rom path for xmame?
[02:07] <nickrud> __mikem, throwing something out of a window
[02:07] <LjL> like throwing windows out of the window?
[02:07] <J-_> lol
[02:07] <nickrud> there you go !!
[02:07] <Dial_tone> something is preventing my nfs shares from automounting in fstab, very odd
[02:08] <Dial_tone> used to work
[02:08] <__mikem> I would love to throw windows out the window, but I still need it for certain programs. However, when ever I am not using those programs I am usually in ubuntu
[02:08] <nickrud> but, I have to run a single windows app, and vmware was just too much overkill. I reboot once or twice a week.
[02:08] <Hit3k> nickrud, use wine?
[02:08] <Dial_tone> nickrud: vmware player is lightweight
[02:09] <J-_> yeah i was the opposite, windows/linux, now it's going to be the opposite.. my p3(linux) runs better than my p4(winblows)
[02:09] <nickrud> Hit3k, Dial_tone it's a 'thing' . Just humor me :)
[02:09] <_TomB> what directory are the kernel headers stored in?
[02:10] <LjL> i'm not entirely sure the x86 architecture allows transparent virtual machines, "transparent" as in "recursively-possible"
[02:10] <jmichaelx> was there a bot attack in this room recently?
[02:11] <Raito> Does anyone know the default rom path for xmame? :/
[02:11] <__mikem> jmichaelx there was an attack last night at around midnight
[02:11] <jmichaelx> hmm
[02:12] <Tmob> anynoe know how to extract a driver out of a exe file?
[02:12] <Tmob> without windows..
[02:12] <__mikem> but it wasn't a bot attack from what I know, SOmeone said someone hijacked an op's screenname
[02:12] <Tmob> trying to get ndiswrapper working
[02:12] <__mikem> Tmob, wine
[02:12] <wastrel> Tmob:  it might be a self-extracting zip, if so unzip will work
[02:12] <nickrud> Tmob, I think cabextract does that
[02:12] <nickrud> Tmob, depends on the archive though
[02:12] <Tmob> oh
[02:12] <Tmob> lemme check :)
[02:12] <J-_> so, installing a widget, after using tar exvf/blah/blah/blah, does it do an install, and that's it?
[02:12] <Tmob> aha! its unzip!
[02:13] <wastrel> huzzah!
[02:14] <alex_> I GIVE UP! limewire is impossible to install!
[02:14] <J-_> lmfao
[02:14] <LjL> alex_: then don't install and use an alternative :)
[02:14] <nickrud> J-_, what kind of widget?
[02:14] <wastrel> i'm having trouble with ghemical
[02:14] <nickrud> !limewire
[02:14] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:14] <pike_> alex_: use frostwire :)
[02:14] <alex_> pike_: o
[02:14] <alex_> pike_: thanks
[02:14] <J-_> gdesklets
[02:15] <LjL> by the way, some fool had said that frostwire is in the repositories, in that factoid. it isn't, for all i can see
[02:15] <pike_> alex_: of course like nick said you need java
[02:15] <nickrud> J-_, oh, the evil one. You probably need to compile it
[02:15] <roostishaw> in a bash script, for instance in a read -p "qusetion here"  var, how do i make part of the question bold?
[02:15] <__mikem> Whose "the evil one"
[02:15] <J-_> damn
[02:15] <gnomefreak> LjL: it doesnt say anywhere in that fact that frostwire is in repos
[02:15] <nickrud> gdesklets
[02:15] <LjL> gnomefreak: no, it doesn't *now*, but it did before i changed it
[02:16] <LjL> gnomefreak: i.e. like until 3 hours ago
[02:16] <J-_> i don't know anything about that stuff, i should get on that journey...
[02:16] <gnomefreak> k
[02:16] <Ries> hey all, where can I find apt-setup ?   I need to configure apt so it will use de internet to get sources
[02:16] <nickrud> J-_, it's a fun one. Enjoy.
[02:16] <LjL> Ries: i don't know what apt-setup is. perhaps what you want is...
[02:16] <LjL> !repos
[02:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:16] <J-_> i wonder if the tuxbox will get torched tonight *evil grin*
[02:17] <__mikem> whats the tuxbox?
[02:17] <Ries> ljl: apt-setup is a debian thing.....
[02:17] <J-_> my linux machine
[02:17] <nickrud> Ries, you probably only need to comment out the cdrom line in your sources ...
[02:17] <LjL> Ries: uhm, not a debian thing that i can find in my debian :o)  at any rate, what you want sounds like just editing your sources.list
[02:18] <gigaclon> my X-Chat is hosed
[02:18] <gigaclon> it doesn't respond to mouse commands
[02:18] <und3rtug4> hello fellow ubuntu users!
[02:18] <DR_K13> ahoy
[02:18] <J-_> reinstall it with synaptic?
[02:19] <__mikem> dpkg-reconfigure <what_ever_the_name_of_the_package_that_installs_xchat>
[02:19] <Ries> ljl: I just edited that, and removed the CDROM
[02:19] <FireFly> Hello
[02:19] <constantine-xvi> trying to update, (changed http to ftp from a fourm post) and i get timeouts after the security updates
[02:19] <perrupa> Hey guys, I'm having trouble getting my USB hard drive to work anymore. it used to autodetect in ubuntu dapper but now isn't coming up anymore. it isn't listed in /dev/ anymore either :| Any advice'd be appreciated
[02:19] <Migit03> so to use vmware i need to install windows within the virtual machine? (I already have windows installed on another hard drive on the same computer)
[02:20] <FireFly> how can I get the wmv codec, I tried VLC, but it didnt work. Do I just have to play the file on windows?
[02:20] <Sivik> Migit03, yes
[02:21] <Migit03> alright thanks (what's a few gigs of HD space)
[02:21] <LjL> Migit03: do you know about Wine?
[02:21] <Migit03> <see above> I use AMD64 version of ubuntu
[02:21] <LjL> oh
[02:21] <FireFly> how can I get the wmv codec, I tried VLC, but it didnt work. Do I just have to play the file on windows?
[02:21] <Ries> ljl: I do have apt-setup on my Debian machine, however editing sources.list worked perfectly
[02:21] <pike_> perrupa: like 'ls -t /dev | head' doesnt show a sda1 or sdb1?
[02:21] <aviation> is anyone using a nvidia card here on dapper? specifically a geforce fx 5200... i have some questions
[02:22] <swaj> FireFly:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ helps quite a bit with that sort of stuff
[02:22] <FireFly> thanks
[02:22] <swaj> np
[02:22] <LjL> aviation: i am, but it's not like i actually use the 3D
[02:23] <und3rtug4> FireFly, have you tried to search on sinaptic for wmv?? I think theres no dedicated package for it, but its packed somewhere on some package! =)
[02:23] <und3rtug4> *synaptic
[02:24] <perrupa> pike: nope, doesn't show either
[02:24] <J-_> is there a site where i can use as reference to see what packages i do and don't need installed?
[02:24] <aviation> LjL, can you tell me what you did to install it properly, im not sure what i did wrong... my highest resolution offered is 1024x768
[02:24] <perrupa> my sda1 internal HD is auto-mounting fine though
[02:24] <LjL> Migit03: anyway, my facetious mention of ReactOS could be a serious possibility. it runs in *way* less space than actual Windows, it's free, and it comes ready in a VMWare image
[02:25] <LjL> aviation: i just did "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx", then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and set it up to use then "nvidia" driver rather than "nv", then went through all the questions, then choose my resolutions and refreshrates
[02:26] <LjL> !nvidia
[02:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:26] <roger25> hi, can i enable a cursor shadow ?
[02:26] <spetsnazgg_> hello, i just setup a hp deskjet 5740 that was detected correctly by ubuntu. it's printing, but it seems to be printing offcenter of the page with the first line of my documents being cut off... how do i fix this?
[02:26] <roger25> (gnome i810)
[02:26] <LjL> roger25: the *default* cursor has a (small) shadow here
[02:27] <roger25> oh yes you're right
[02:27] <rak_> how should i mount my ipod using a firewire port? right now it's connected and getting power saying "do not disconnect"
[02:27] <spikeb> hmm
[02:27] <spikeb> mine automatically mounts
[02:27] <spikeb> either through firewire or usb
[02:27] <roger25> but it is possible more shadowed like the windows with xcompmgr ?
[02:27] <alex_> how do i install a .deb file?
[02:27] <Migit03> LjL:Where can I download it? Is it easy?
[02:28] <spades> sudo dpkg -i file
[02:28] <LjL> alex_: try gdebi, or "dpkg -i filename" if it doesn't require dependencies
[02:28] <rak_> yeah mind did too but then i did some update  on the ipod and it might have been a new install of ubuntu and now it doesn't
[02:28] <LjL> Migit03: yes it is
[02:28] <rak_> and it works through USB
[02:28] <alex_> LjL: Thanks
[02:28] <LjL> Migit03: http://www.reactos.org/xhtml/en/index.html  <- just download the vmware image. it's ready to go
[02:29] <Migit03> LjL: Nice thanks man (although looks like it's still in alpha...hope it works)
[02:30] <LjL> Migit03: well, it's alpha for sure (making a Windows clone certainly isn't easy), but it does run MS Office up to version 2000-something, Paint Shop Pro, and quite a bit of stuff (look at the screenshots, and i think there's a compatibility list somewhere)
[02:30] <LjL> Migit03: probably can run the same amount of apps that Wine can, except that ReactOS is an actual operating system and not just a compatibility layer
[02:30] <Migit03> right
[02:31] <roostishaw> where is my .bashrc file?
[02:31] <LjL> look at this screenshot, specifically http://www.reactos.org/media/screenshots/2005/ros_in_qemu.png  =)
[02:31] <pike_> roostishaw: /home/usrname/.bashrc
[02:31] <tmccrary> hi, since upgrading to dapper, my psc hp scanner no longer works
[02:31] <alex_> FrostWire works Great!!!
[02:31] <wastrel> $HOME/.bashrc
[02:31] <wastrel> ~/.bashrc
[02:32] <Healot> ~/.bashrc
[02:32] <tmccrary> Anyyone know why Dapper broke the HP PSC scanner/printer combo I have?
[02:32] <mrfishhat> how do i end a process when ksysguard's kill process wont work?
[02:32] <alex_> tmccrary: is this a joke?
[02:32] <LjL>   /home/`whoami`/.bashrc
[02:32] <wastrel> mrfishhat:  kill -9 <processid>
[02:32] <alex_> tmccrary: why did the chicken cross the road, sorta joke...lol
[02:32] <tmccrary> alex_: No, this is not a joke
[02:32] <roger25> (ok redglass got a big shadow and it is transparent all i want \o/)
[02:32] <alex_> tmccrary: gotcha
[02:32] <roostishaw> LjL, cat: /home/roostishaw/.bashrc: No such file or directory
[02:32] <mrfishhat> thank you wastrel
[02:33] <tmccrary> i.e., since installing Dapper, the scanner no longer works, it cannot communicate with the PSC any longer
[02:33] <wastrel> roostishaw:  you must have added that user with useradd ?
[02:33] <LjL> roostishaw: well my version of the command was actually more of a joke than anything else, look at what the other said instead :-) although, i'd have bet it would work consistently
[02:34] <roostishaw> it would work...
[02:34] <wastrel> roostishaw:  either create ~/.bashrc or copy the one out of /etc/skel/
[02:34] <roostishaw> wastrel, o. this is a user i made on install
[02:34] <wastrel> hm.  dunnox0rz
[02:35] <|rt|> anyone here ever install cgkit in ubuntu?
[02:35] <p47> could somebody help me with my sound card ? my sond card is detected by ubuntu, but when maked update I had problems, now I can't listen someting !
[02:35] <|rt|> i can't find any mention of it on the forums or wiki
[02:35] <rak_> does anyone have any idea about mounting ipods manually through firewire if it doesn't work automatically, or why it wouldn't mount automatically?
[02:35] <tmccrary> rt: welcome to the club
[02:35] <|rt|> tmccrary: you trying to install cgkit?
[02:36] <|rt|> tmccrary: i'm guessing that I just need to get the source from sf.net and install it manually
[02:36] <Migit03> LjL:I got ReactOS up, any idea how I can get it to access my other files?
[02:37] <LjL> Migit03: hmm don't quote me on this, but i don't think you *can* access files outside the virtual machine, using VMWare Player. however, i suppose you could setup a Samba server and access them from that
[02:37] <LjL> Migit03: (or an FTP server, or what you prefer)
[02:37] <Migit03> ...getting more complcated, alright then
[02:39] <ice60> highvoltage, will i be able to connect to the freenode servers if i setup TOR for IRC?
[02:39] <Healot> most of the time, yes
[02:39] <LjL> Migit03: well it's vmware *player*. it's crippled compared to workstation.
[02:39] <vinboy> what is a good program to mass rename mp3 filename according to id3 tag?
[02:39] <hawkaloogie> easytag
[02:39] <LjL> vinboy: eyeD3
[02:39] <pike_> p47: i had to do this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16491  after upgrading of course you might need to adapt it to your card
[02:39] <vinboy> thanks
[02:40] <ice60> Healot: were you talking to me?
[02:40] <yoshiznit123> vinboy, or musicbrainz
[02:40] <Migit03> LjL:Time to fire up azureus then
[02:40] <LjL> vinboy: eyed3 is a console program, easytag is gtk
[02:40] <vinboy> oh ok
[02:40] <p47> pike_: thank's I'll read that  !
[02:40] <vinboy> thanks guys
[02:40] <Healot> ice60: no :)
[02:40] <Dial_tone> can you grep with OR functionality?  like "ls ~/ | grep A OR B "
[02:40] <ice60> Healot: lol that's what i thought
[02:41] <LjL> Migit03: i didn't hear you. anyway, just for the record, vmware workstation is not as easy to install as vmware player, since vmware player comes packaged.
[02:41] <ice60> ><
[02:41] <yoshiznit123> dial_tone grep "a|b"
[02:41] <jmichaelx> are there decent instructions anywhere for setting up a PC as a printing server in dapper?? i cannot really find anything
[02:41] <Migit03> LjL:Yeah I think I'm just gonna switch to the i386 Ubuntu...too much hassel
[02:42] <LjL> !printing
[02:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:42] <jmichaelx> LjL: ty
[02:43] <LjL> Migit03: well setting you an ftp server isn't hard... and possibly samba isn't hard either, if Gnome comes with settings applet for that, though i don't use Gnome so i don't really know
[02:43] <jmichaelx> LjL: is there anything simply on network printing without windows?
[02:44] <disant> hi
[02:44] <disant> what is "symbol lookup error"?
[02:44] <disant> as in "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol: _ZNK7QWhdget16backgroundPixmapEv"
[02:44] <LjL> jmichaelx: i don't know, but that howto looks like it's really just as valid for linux clients as for windows clients.
[02:45] <Healot> that's Print server like CUPS is for...
[02:45] <LjL> disant: are you trying to run a program that was precompiled?
[02:45] <jmichaelx> LjL: ok i will look into it... so far about everything i have run into is extremely complicated for such a simple issue
[02:45] <LjL> Healot: yeah and since CUPS is the *default* printing engine in Ubuntu, activating its server-ness is easy enough
[02:45] <disant> LjL: yeah
[02:46] <disant> lib version mismatch
[02:46] <jmichaelx> LjL: if you say so, but i am not sure it is all that easy in ubuntu
[02:46] <LjL> disant: then it was probably compiled with gcc3 and your libqt is compiled with gcc4. the C++ interface to libraries is not compatible between these two
[02:46] <LjL> jmichaelx: what are you planning to serve to, other Ubuntu boxes?
[02:47] <jmichaelx> LjL: yes
[02:47] <jmichaelx> LjL:  well, other linux boxes, not all ubuntu
[02:47] <Junichi> hello everyone
[02:47] <Junichi> need help
[02:48] <Junichi> ubuntu does not recognize internet
[02:48] <Junichi> ifconfig says everything is fine
[02:48] <LjL> disant: a hint -- not sure this would work. you can download Google Earth for Linux, it comes with a lot of libraries among witch a libqt3-mt that's, I think, compiled with gcc3. you could use that (but DO NOT OVERWRITE your current libqt, just put the Google one somewhere in your home dir, and type "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/blahblahblah" to make the programs find it
[02:48] <ice228> hello, how do i add my account to the sudoers list?
[02:48] <Tmob> anyone know what that tool is called which can draw system info on the root window?
[02:48] <Junichi> but firefox cant load any pages
[02:48] <Tmob> like battery, cpu, etc..
[02:48] <LjL> jmichaelx: then i'm pretty sure following that howto up to point 5 (included) will work.
[02:48] <disant> ice228, 'visudo'
[02:49] <PMT> Or /etc/sudoers editing, if you're bored.
[02:49] <jmichaelx> LjL: ty for the link
[02:49] <ddrj> guys, i have a laptop and a computer, the ubuntu live cd runs really well on the laptop, but on the computer it runs painfully slow, opening up the install icon on the desktop literally takes 4 minutes and 51 seconds. it's not the cd, because the cd runs really fast on the laptop. i enabled DMA with sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom on the computer, but it still runs slow
[02:49] <pvd> The NVIDIA proprietary driver doesnt seem to be working right in Ubuntu.  When I go to open a slightly big window it takes a while to draw it. Its like black for half a second and then goes dowards drawing the rest of the screen.
[02:49] <pike_> Junichi: what kind of setup do you have cable modem? seperate router?
[02:49] <disant> Junichi, ping <IP_ADDRESS>  (google.com)... if it doesnt respond.. you got DNS problem
[02:49] <bimberi> ice228: if you want the general ability to use sudo like the initial user you can just add the account to the 'admin' group
[02:50] <ddrj> anyone know what i do?
[02:50] <Junichi> ADSL modemrouter that automatically connets online
[02:50] <Junichi> distant: timed out
[02:50] <disant> Junichi, ping your modem/gateway
[02:50] <ice228> bimbery : my account is admoin but i still cant write to some folders
[02:51] <Junichi> distant: workds
[02:51] <Junichi> *works
[02:51] <Junichi> FF can even open the modem admin page
[02:51] <bimberi> ice228: having sudo ability won't give you additional access to folders
[02:51] <ice228> what does?
[02:52] <bimberi> ice228: using 'sudo' itself to do commands as superuser
[02:52] <ice228> well, how do i write a .bin to the bin folder?
[02:52] <bimberi> ice228: sudo cp file.bin /usr/local/bin
[02:52] <epimetrias> hey, is anyone running ubuntu on a powermac G5?
[02:52] <ice228> thanks
[02:52] <bimberi> ice228: yw :)
[02:53] <ddrj> guys, i have a laptop and a computer, the ubuntu live cd runs really well on the laptop, but on the computer it runs painfully slow, opening up the install icon on the desktop literally takes 4 minutes and 51 seconds. it's not the cd, because the cd runs really fast on the laptop. i enabled DMA with sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom on the computer, but it still runs slow. anyone had a problem with live cd running this slow?
[02:53] <disant> how much memory do you have on the laptop?
[02:53] <NickGarvey> ddrj: need more ram?
[02:53] <Junichi> distant: despite being able to access the modem and DCHP enabled ubuntu isnt online
[02:53] <ddrj> i have 256mb ddr ram and 2.8ghz
[02:53] <Junichi> I dont know what to do
[02:53] <alex_> ddrj: I did. but after the install it was pretty good.
[02:54] <gigaclon> err I found this while running chkrootkit, wlan0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[4966] )
[02:54] <ddrj> hm...
[02:54] <NickGarvey> ddrj: thats not very much ram
[02:54] <gigaclon> how can i fix
[02:54] <NickGarvey> ddrj: very fast computer
[02:54] <Sivik> why would my wireless card be only giving me a IPv6 and not an IPv4?
[02:54] <disant> check your netowrk card configurations... make sure your gateway is pointing to the modem ip
[02:54] <ddrj> true, but i read that it only needs 64mb ram to run though
[02:54] <Sivik> disant: but i'm getting it via dhcp
[02:54] <p47> know someone how to configure a volume control on keyboar dell ?
[02:54] <Junichi> the etho config?
[02:55] <ddrj> on the other hand, i have 512 ram on my laptop and it runs pretty fast :\
[02:55] <disant> Sivik, that was fro Junichi, sorry
[02:55] <Sivik> disant, sorry
[02:56] <disant> Junichi, yes
[02:56] <Junichi> that one was set to DCHP..
[02:56] <Junichi> I'll go try anyway
[02:57] <gigaclon> I found this while running chkrootkit, wlan0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[4966] )
[02:57] <Trae> how can I tell if my Ubuntu install process is hung?
[02:57] <NickGarvey> disant: easier, don't need to set it up
[02:57] <Trae> I'm at 84% and it's just sitting there
[02:57] <NickGarvey> Trae: how long have you waited?
[02:57] <NickGarvey> Trae: it might just be installing a very very big file
[02:57] <Trae> NickGarvey hmmm.... 5mins?
[02:58] <NickGarvey> Trae: psch! give it more than that
[02:58] <Trae> NickGarvey true, this is a fairly fast machine
[02:58] <Trae> NickGarvey hehe
[02:58] <NickGarvey> :)
[02:58] <Trae> 2.8Ghz w/3G of ram
[02:58] <Trae> not fast, but not slow
[02:58] <disant> indeed
[02:58] <L-----D> Trae: maybe you he is trying to get somthing from net, while you can't
[02:58] <wastrel> lord
[02:58] <wastrel> that's a better machine than i've ever had.
[02:58] <gigaclon> Testing testing can you read me
[02:59] <Trae> wastrel heh
[02:59] <Kartharak_> How does XFCE match up agains GNOME?
[02:59] <Trae> gigaclon no, we can't read you.
[02:59] <Trae> gigaclon :)
[02:59] <gigaclon> ok thanks
[02:59] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[02:59] <Xen> does anyone know?
[02:59] <gigaclon> been having connection problems
[02:59] <gigaclon> I found this while running chkrootkit, wlan0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[4966] )
[02:59] <gigaclon> can anyone help
[02:59] <Trae> is there some way I can check to see if the system is doing something?
[02:59] <Trae> again, trying to install
[03:00] <crimsun> gigaclon: that's normal.
[03:00] <Trae> and it seems like it's hanging
[03:00] <gigaclon> ok
[03:00] <PMT> gigaclon - That's just your DHCP client.
[03:00] <Daveyboy> during installing the base system...its been stuck on 59% "unpacking xfprogs", is there a hot key sequence to skip to the next package?
[03:00] <disant> man I was amazed last nite.. my new wireless card worked out of the box
[03:00] <Trae> surely... I should be able to check some place to ascertain the status of things during my install
[03:00] <Xen> does anyone know? how XFCE matches up against GNOME?
[03:00] <Trae> Xen: it's not bad
[03:00] <Trae> Xen: but... there are issues with it...
[03:01] <Trae> or there was for me
[03:01] <disant> XFCE sux IMHO :)
[03:01] <NickGarvey> xen: I use it for vmware all the time, I like it very much
[03:01] <skavenge> disant ; feel lucky, it took me a week with mine haha
[03:01] <swaj> XFCE is pretty nice these days, but Gnome is much better imo
[03:01] <Trae> xfce has some advantages over gnome
[03:01] <Daveyboy> during installing the base system...its been stuck on 59% "unpacking xfprogs", is there a hot key sequence to skip to the next package?
[03:01] <disant> skavenge: what card
[03:01] <L-----D> surely, SFCE runs faster
[03:01] <Trae> swaj nod
[03:01] <Xen> Trae: what sprt?
[03:01] <disant> Xen, one word for you "fluxbox"
[03:01] <crimsun> Trae: one of the other consoles (alt+F# where # > 2)
[03:01] <Trae> so no one knows how to check on my processes during install?
[03:01] <Xen> NickGarvey: is it faster or of sort?
[03:01] <skavenge> disant; dell knockoff broadcom crap
[03:01] <Trae> crimsun oh there you be
[03:01] <NickGarvey> if I have one entry in hosts.allow and nothing in hosts.deny, will all computers be able to access my computer?
[03:01] <Trae> crimsun in X
[03:01] <Xen> disant: what's good about it?
[03:02] <swaj> I used to be a KDE-addict... but Gnome/GTK2 is just too sweet
[03:02] <NickGarvey> xen: its much faster than many other desktops
[03:02] <Trae> crimsun used the X install method  still go to console?
[03:02] <crimsun> Trae: perhaps ctrl+alt+F# where # >= 2 ?
[03:02] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  i thought only inetd and ssh honor hosts.allow anymore
[03:02] <crimsun> Trae: no idea, I don't know its innards
[03:02] <disant> D-Link WDA-2320 Rangebooster... $49 at BestBuys
[03:02] <NickGarvey> if I have one entry in hosts.allow and nothing in hosts.deny, will all computers be able to access my computer?
[03:02] <NickGarvey> eek wrong window
[03:02] <disant> Xen, simplicity.. but again.. to each his own
[03:02] <Daveyboy> during installing the base system...its been stuck on 59% "unpacking xfprogs", is there a hot key sequence to skip to the next package?
[03:03] <NickGarvey> wastrel: not sure, I want to set up my nfs server to only allow connections from computers that have 192.168.*.*
[03:03] <Trae> :/
[03:03] <Trae> still 84%
[03:03] <disant> Trae, try putting another quarter in...
[03:03] <Trae> disant :P
[03:03] <disant> .. or two dimes and a nickle
[03:03] <Trae> disant and spitting in the back of it and hitting it too?
[03:04] <Xen> NickGarvey: Im on a 2Ghz P4 Dell laptop, kinda old.. 512MB ram.. would it benefit me above GNOME?
[03:04] <Daveyboy> is fluxbox the minimalist wm?
[03:04] <disant> Xen, lets ask the right question.. what will you use that laptop for? internet? gaming?
[03:04] <sylvain> hi I'm just looking for some file-zilla clone or other user-friendly FTP under ubuntu, any suggestions? (there's too much ftp-related stuff on the net, I'm dizzy :P)
[03:04] <LjL> i've got a slow dual-core Intel 8Ghz with only 16 gigs of RAM, should i use window maker for faster UI response?
[03:04] <skavenge> ive got a 1.6 gig with 512 laptop gnome is fast enough for me heh
[03:04] <Xen> disant: just general applications
[03:05] <jmichaelx> LjL: well, i followed those instructions through step 5, but still no go.....
[03:05] <Xen> disant: word processing, IM, web browsing
[03:05] <nickrud> LjL, that is so cruel ;P
[03:05] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd>  does anyone know how this error can be fixed? :(firefox-bin:27205): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",
[03:05] <LjL> nickrud: err, i don't *actually* have such a thing
[03:05] <five_laptop> ugh
[03:05] <five_laptop> anyone use wordpress?
[03:05] <LjL> jmichaelx: can you go to http://serveraddress:631 from the other machines?
[03:05] <nickrud> LjL, the mockery, oh, the mockery
[03:05] <Daveyboy> who is the install guru here?
[03:06] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[03:06] <Trae> hah
[03:06] <Trae> the tool says:  configuring apt...
[03:06] <Trae> the little window
[03:06] <Trae> I opened up a term
[03:06] <Trae> and did:
[03:06] <Trae> apt-get update
[03:06] <Xen> disant: just general applications
[03:06] <Xen> disant: word processing, IM, web browsing
[03:06] <Trae> and apt is running
[03:06] <Trae> clearly... something went wrong
[03:07] <Trae> Has anyone heard any misgivings with the X based install and Dapper?
[03:07] <disant> :) still remember I used to run my firewall on old 486 16M of RAM.. took me 3 days to recompile kernel :)
[03:07] <crimsun> Trae: severe, if you have an NTFS partition
[03:07] <disant> Xen: gnome should be enough for you
[03:07] <Trae> crimsun no NTFS
[03:07] <Xen> disant: what if i find it slows down too often at times?
[03:07] <L-----D> Trae: I think you must wait until timeout
[03:07] <crimsun> Trae: should be safe then, but I prefer the text-based one on the alternate iso
[03:07] <disant> then troubleshoot it.. figure out what slows it down
[03:08] <Daveyboy> crimsun, during installing the base system...its been stuck on 59% "unpacking xfprogs", is there a hot key sequence to skip to the next package?
[03:08] <james_xxx> LjL: this is jmichaelx on a different PC, and no, http://serveraddress:631 doesn't work
[03:08] <Trae> hmmmm
[03:08] <disant> i'm running Solaris x86 w/Java desktop.. I like it...  go w/default
[03:08] <crimsun> Daveyboy: sorry, missing context?
[03:09] <Trae> hah
[03:09] <Trae> I think it auto-configured my neighbors wireless
[03:09] <Trae> bawhahha
[03:09] <james_xxx> lol
[03:09] <Sivik> lol
[03:09] <waldo> HOW do I start ubuntu w/o X11 (screwed up drivers or something)
[03:10] <Daveyboy> crimsun, during ubuntu install, it is stuck in "installl base system" 59% can i bypass this package that is stuck or do anything its just unresponsive...
[03:10] <disant> LjL, bah.. removing libqt3-mt and reinstalling mythtv fixed it... that was the app I tried to fix and its working.. prob broke smth else.. but hey :)  (my wife wanted to watch some show.. so that's a priority :)
[03:10] <Trae> I was like, how am I on the net?  cause I use wep (I know it isn't wpa :P )
[03:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd>  does anypne know how this error can be fixed? :(firefox-bin:27205): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",
[03:10] <crimsun> Daveyboy: using which installer, graphical or text-based?
[03:10] <james_xxx> Trae: i am probably providing wireless access to half of my neighborhood as we speak :-))
[03:10] <waldo> is it possible to start ubuntu w/o X11?
[03:10] <Daveyboy> crimsun, oem install
[03:10] <Trae> james_xxx *chuckle*
[03:11] <Sivik> james_xxx, did you put a WEP or WPA on your card?
[03:11] <Patrick__> hey all, whats the fastest program to crack through windows passwords while using the windows computer?
[03:11] <Trae> I don't mind it but this doods connection is weak
[03:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> waldo: during boot and always?
[03:11] <james_xxx> Sivik: no
[03:11] <crimsun> Daveyboy: I presume the text-based one?
[03:11] <Sivik> james_xxx, why not?
[03:11] <Patrick__> i know this is an off topic question, since its not regarding linux and all but this is the fastest way I can find out
[03:11] <waldo> r0cturRnal-fiend -- just while i fix whatever is wrong with it
[03:11] <Daveyboy> crimsun, no  graphical (blue screen)
[03:11] <disant> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, did you try 'ol friend google?
[03:11] <Trae> Patrick__ #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:11] <james_xxx> Sivik: i don't even know what all of that is :-(
[03:11] <disant> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, i think you need to install gtk-qt-engine
[03:11] <Sivik> james_xxx, lol
[03:11] <sam_> Question: I have a usb camera plugged in.. it doesn't matter if it works or not, I intend to use it in vmware. Anyway, when ubuntu does its hardware autodetection routine, it detects a microphone in this usb camera, loads snd_usb_audio and screws up my sound. is there any way i can say, hey, don't load this module because i don't want it
[03:11] <Sivik> james_xxx, what kind of wireless ap is it
[03:12] <james_xxx> a linksys wireless router
[03:12] <Sivik> ok, go to your browers and type <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:12] <pike_> waldo: couple different ways if just temp you could chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm then chmod +x for it to run at boot again
[03:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> waldo: during boot press ctrl+alt+f1 a few times ,
[03:12] <waldo> Let me try alt-f1 cuz I have no ssh right now.....  I'm kinda locke dout
[03:12] <crimsun> Daveyboy: I'm not at all familiar w/ ubiquity, the gui installer
[03:13] <james_xxx> Sivik: it wants a user name and password
[03:13] <Sivik> james_xxx, user: admin, password: admin
[03:13] <Daveyboy> crimsun, screw it ill strat over in text bode
[03:13] <sam_> is there some way to configure the hardware autodetection?
[03:13] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> disant: i did try google , and i have the latest gtk-gt engine installed ,
[03:13] <Sivik> james_xxx, are you in?
[03:13] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok now what ? lol
[03:14] <james_xxx> Sivik: yes
[03:14] <jasonm_> is there a support forum for Rhythmbox?
[03:14] <Sivik> james_xxx, go to the second tab, that says wireless
[03:14] <Daveyboy> when i "install server" does it come with a graphical environment?
[03:14] <waldo> damn as soon as gdm starts I get locked out.  I need a way to get it to NOT run on boot... isn't there an interactive startup you can set up in grub when it starts?
[03:14] <Sivik> Daveyboy, no
[03:14] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jasonm_: where/
[03:14] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok. i am there
[03:14] <Daveyboy> so ide have to apt-get what?
[03:14] <Sivik> james_xxx, go to the second tab under that, that says security
[03:14] <Trae> going to try and restart
[03:15] <jasonm_> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, sorry?
[03:15] <Trae> I'm going to setup my wireless before I start the install
[03:15] <Daveyboy> cause it wont "startx"
[03:15] <Sivik> Daveyboy, there isn't a GUI when you install the server
[03:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> waldo: press escape when the grub starts loading , u can boot in recovery mode (as root)
[03:15] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok, i am there
[03:15] <Trae> that's probably the problem.
[03:15] <waldo> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: thanks I'm trying that now...
[03:15] <cArNaGe`> !info
[03:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about info
[03:15] <cArNaGe`> !users
[03:15] <Daveyboy> Sivik, but if i wanted to install gui, can I?
[03:15] <Sivik> james_xxx, there should be a pull down menu that currently says disabled, choose WEP
[03:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about users
[03:15] <pike_> Daveyboy: for full fledged desktop ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop depending on the environment you want
[03:15] <Sivik> Daveyboy, yes
[03:16] <Trae> it tried to connect and update from the net and timed out or some crap because of the poor connection
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> Sysinfo for 'linux': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ at 1300 MHz (2606 bogomips), HD: 18/109GB, RAM: 426/440MB, 102 proc's, 6.1d up
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> that look ok/
[03:16] <james_xxx> Sivik: will that disconnect any of my PCs from the network?
[03:16] <swaj> are there any tools in Ubuntu that can burn an ISO image?  I can't seem to find the option in the "CD/DVD Burner"
[03:16] <pike_> Daveyboy: but you dont have to install those big packages for a gui
[03:16] <Trae> cArNaGe` you play bzflag?
[03:16] <Sivik> james_xxx, are you currently connected wirelessly with anyof them?
[03:16] <Trae> heh
[03:16] <DR_K13> Did freenode get hacked?
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> no
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> bf2
[03:16] <Trae> cArNaGe` k, nm
[03:16] <james_xxx> Sivik: at the moment, no
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> sourse
[03:16] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jasonm_: u were asking for suppoer for some player , this is support for evferything pretty much
[03:16] <Sivik> james_xxx, then no
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> source
[03:16] <nickrud> swaj, right click he iso in the file manager, select write to disk
[03:16] <james_xxx> ok
[03:16] <Daveyboy> pike_, fluxbox?
[03:17] <Sivik> james_xxx, this only has to do with wireless, not wired
[03:17] <Trae> I know a carnage from bzflag
[03:17] <Trae> :)
[03:17] <swaj> nickrud, ah, thanks ;)
[03:17] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok, i chose WEP
[03:17] <Sivik> james_xxx, once you choose WEP, it should asked for a passphase
[03:17] <pike_> Daveyboy: im not really sure but maybe you could just apt-get xserver-xorg and fluxbox
[03:17] <swaj> nickrud, is the same possible with *.img files?
[03:17] <james_xxx> Sivik: yes, it does... do i just make something up?
[03:17] <Sivik> james_xxx, enter in a password of some sort and then it will list some stuff in HEX, and then hit the save changes down at the bottom
[03:17] <swaj> nickrud, or BIN/CUE for that matter?
[03:18] <nickrud> swaj, I don't know, truthfully I don't mess much with cd's and the like. bchunk converts bin/cue to iso, I know that much.
[03:18] <Sivik> james_xxx, yes, just make something up, more than 6 digits with a numbe and capitalized letter in it
[03:18] <Daveyboy> pike_, xserver-xorg is the layer between kernel and gui?
[03:18] <Sivik> and put a number at the end
[03:18] <pike_> Daveyboy: xubuntu is pretty lightweight
[03:18] <swaj> nickrud, okay, thanks ;)
[03:18] <Sivik> pike_: you can do that, thats how i installed ubuntu on my desktop
[03:18] <Sivik> pike_, did the server first, and then installed x and e16
[03:19] <Sivik> james_xxx, now no one unless they know your key, can use your wireless, unless they crack it
[03:19] <james_xxx> Sivik: i entered a password, but i do not s3ee any hex stuff
[03:19] <pike_> Daveyboy: so i guess you either install one of the ubuntu-desktop packages or do what sivik did
[03:20] <swaj> what is the one big development package for ubuntu that installs gcc and all the appropriate libraries?  I can't seem to remember
[03:20] <Sivik> james_xxx: don't worry about it, after you enter a passphase, there should be 4 places where a bunch of numbers and letters are, thats the HEX stuff, just save the router now
[03:20] <Sivik> james_xxx, at the bottom of the screen
[03:20] <Daveyboy> so apt-get install x and apt-get install e16?
[03:20] <james_xxx> Sivik: there is nothing in those four lines
[03:20] <Sivik> james_xxx, did you enter a passphase?
[03:20] <_TomB> what is the way to create a deb package after you've modified the apt-get source of it?
[03:21] <james_xxx> Sivik: i entered one, yes
[03:21] <pike_> Daveyboy: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg and then whatever window manager you want fluxbox or e16 etc
[03:21] <Sivik> james_xxx, did you choose the WEP encryption method just above where you entered the passphase
[03:21] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok, i needed to hit 'generate'
[03:21] <james_xxx> Sivik: i got it now
[03:21] <Sivik> yeah
[03:21] <Daveyboy> so fluxbox is pretty minimal?
[03:22] <eobanb> yes, it is, Daveyboy
[03:22] <Daveyboy> its a 400 mhz 256ram
[03:22] <james_xxx> Sivik: thanks a lot for that
[03:22] <Sivik> james_xxx, yw
[03:22] <pike_> Daveyboy: very you could just apt-get xubuntu-desktop should run ok with those specs
[03:22] <eobanb> i agree with pike_
[03:22] <eobanb> Daveyboy, try xubuntu.
[03:22] <james_xxx> Daveyboy: what kind of processor is that?
[03:23] <Daveyboy> amd k62
[03:23] <cef> hrm, since upgrading to dapper, my cups printing seems to have died. any suggestions on where to start? I'm getting "Paused: /usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" in the gnome print manager
[03:23] <james_xxx> ok i agree about xubuntu
[03:23] <Daveyboy> so xserver-xorg always forst then wm?
[03:23] <ardinary> How do I enable sound?
[03:23] <Trae> ok... let's see how well this install gets off to.
[03:23] <eobanb> Daveyboy, no, just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <Trae> Daveyboy make sure you want it.
[03:24] <james_xxx> i have a P2 @ 400Mhz, and it handles ubuntu fine, but my AMD K6-@ @ 500Mhz does better with xubuntu
[03:24] <disant> Trae, :)
[03:24] <Trae> Daveyboy it'll change all your GDM stuff to reflect xubuntu
[03:24] <Daveyboy> it will automatically install xserver-xorg
[03:24] <eobanb> james_xxx, different amounts of RAM perhaps?
[03:24] <eobanb> Daveyboy, yes
[03:24] <eobanb> Trae, he doesnt have gdm
[03:24] <Trae> ahhh
[03:24] <eobanb> he installed the server version
[03:24] <james_xxx> eobanb: actually , the AMD has more ram
[03:24] <Trae> nm then
[03:24] <Trae> :)
[03:25] <Daveyboy> so when does ubuntu become ubuntu, ? as opposed to suse or mandrake, at what layer during the install
[03:25] <Trae> I made the mistake and installed compiz
[03:25] <Trae> :(
[03:25] <Trae> stupid thing wouldn't work
[03:25] <Daveyboy> Trae, gdm=?
[03:25] <james_xxx> eobanb: the P2 has 256MB and the AMD has 256 + 64
[03:25] <Trae> Daveyboy login manager
[03:25] <eobanb> Daveyboy, don't think of it like that
[03:25] <jrib> _TomB: I use dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot
[03:25] <Trae> Daveyboy when you boot your computer it's the screen that allows you to put in user/pass
[03:25] <Trae> Daveyboy no worries.
[03:25] <crimsun> Trae: you LOVE the crack.
[03:26] <Trae> crimsun heh
[03:26] <Trae> crimsun meh, went back to gnome
[03:26] <Trae> crimsun it was nice... there were some great things about xfce
[03:26] <Daveyboy> cause i'm wondering if it would be easier to build from scratch and pick my own kernel etc.
[03:26] <crimsun> welcome back, prodigal son.
[03:26] <Trae> but....
[03:26] <debian_> has anyone had any issues with getting the eyedropper color picker to work when using the Colorzilla Firefox pluggin with firefox under dapper?
[03:26] <Trae> heh
[03:26] <Trae> I hate gnome
[03:26] <Trae> :(
[03:26] <eobanb> debian_, i've never heard of that extension
[03:26] <james_xxx> i still wish i could get network prining going with k/u/xubuntu, but so far just frustration
[03:26] <eobanb> Trae, no need to troll
[03:26] <Trae> it just sucks less than everything else.
[03:26] <Trae> *sigh*
[03:27] <_TomB> thank you jrib
[03:27] <Trae> eoban not trolling
[03:27] <Trae> just being serious
[03:27] <james_xxx> Trae: i love KDE :-D
[03:27] <Trae> there are tons of things I hate about it.
[03:27] <Daveyboy> so what makes ubuntu unique?
[03:27] <swaj> Compiz just seems rather silly to me :P
[03:27] <NickGarvey> Trae: troll11oneone
[03:27] <Trae> NickGarvey :P~~~~
[03:27] <NickGarvey> Daveyboy: it pwns
[03:27] <eobanb> window manager flamewars shall be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:27] <Daveyboy> pwns?
[03:27] <Trae> Daveyboy heh, you a bot?
[03:27] <Daveyboy> yeah..bigtime
[03:27] <Trae> Daveyboy or fresh off the "dial-up" boat.
[03:27] <Trae> Daveyboy ;)
[03:28] <Trae> Daveyboy pwns = owns
[03:28] <Daveyboy> trae, or you don't now the answer
[03:28] <Daveyboy> *know
[03:28] <cef> hrm, since upgrading to dapper, my cups printing seems to have died. any suggestions on where to start? I'm getting "Paused: /usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" in the gnome print manager.   It's super easy to use... the package management system (apt) makes installing software so much easier.  Overall the entire OS is clean and user-friendly.  It's Linux for the average joe, and not the uber geek.
[03:28] <Daveyboy> so what makes it different than slackware
[03:28] <Trae> ok...82%
[03:28] <Trae> let's hope...
[03:29] <Trae> 84%
[03:29] <Trae> here we go
[03:29] <Trae> scanningthe mirrors
[03:29] <Trae> waiting...
[03:29] <Daveyboy> swaj, thanks
[03:29] <eobanb> Trae, would you mind not talking so much please
[03:29] <Trae> eobanb: :P
[03:29] <Trae> w00p! it got past 84%
[03:29] <hawkaloogie> Trae, or at least not using the "Enter" key as your only punctuation
[03:29] <swaj> Daveyboy, np ;)
[03:29] <pike_> Daveyboy: you might consider apt-getting kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k6 dont know how much of a difference in speed it would make..
[03:29] <Trae> crimsun so... the problem with stopping at 84% seems to be the fact it's trying to connect to the mirrors.
[03:30] <Trae> crimsun someone might have had their connection auto-configured by mistake.  And caused a timeout.
[03:30] <jinho> Hi, I'm having a lot of difficulty installing GTK 2.8, especially pango wont install properly- when I do sh autogen.sh I get a message saying m4 macros not found
[03:30] <Trae> crimsun that was my problem.
[03:30] <james_xxx> pike_: you think that could make a difference??
[03:30] <swaj> Daveyboy, another sweet thing about Ubuntu is the fact that this channel is full of tons of helpful people that are always willing to answer "newbie" quesions :P
[03:30] <Trae> crimsun just something to note.
[03:30] <Trae> hawkaloogie :P~~~
[03:31] <eobanb> jinho, what is the exact name of the package you're trying to install
[03:31] <jinho> pango
[03:31] <Trae> sweet, problem solved.
[03:31] <jinho> eobanb: pango
[03:31] <pike_> james_xxx: not sure i always use the k7 kernel instead of 386 or 686 but cant really say i notice a difference. except for very occational package problems :)
[03:31] <BIAF> say if one wants to backup a whole HD of a linux server incase of a crash, what is the best way/tool/method to backup a whole drive that when a recovery is requested, it dont take 3 years to get back in action?
[03:32] <eobanb> jinho, libpango1.0-dev ?
[03:32] <Awesome-o2000> BIAF, i lik ghost for linux personally
[03:32] <BIAF> cool
[03:32] <PacketScan> Awesome-o2000, g4u rocks
[03:32] <BIAF> sector by sector copy?
[03:32] <jinho> eobanb: i guess that's what it is-
[03:32] <Weirdbro> Someone told me freenode was hijacked. What happened?
[03:32] <BIAF> so when HD is replaced, the boot wont freak?
[03:32] <Awesome-o2000> BIAF, you can do a raw copy or a compressed image. Its your choice really
[03:32] <eobanb> Weirdbro, this is not the place for that question
[03:33] <jinho> eobanb: i just want to install GTK so I can install something else- and this is getting sort of frustrating
[03:33] <hyphenated> BIAF: wouldn't a RAID setup be a better idea for a server?
[03:33] <Weirdbro> I don't know the place for that question.
[03:33] <PacketScan> Weirdbro, it's on /. and digg
[03:33] <Weirdbro> This is the only freenode channel I know the name of.
[03:33] <PacketScan> hyphenated, yes
[03:33] <BIAF> hyp : yes it would
[03:33] <eobanb> jinho, well what is the 'something else'?
[03:33] <BIAF> good idea, but my wee server only a PII with old school bios
[03:33] <hyphenated> ..but?
[03:33] <swaj> BIAF, I hear http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ is really good for backups/drive images
[03:33] <Awesome-o2000> Weirdbro, someone impersonated nickserv and took over the network. Evidently there werent some basic security measures taken with the network
[03:33] <Trae> Weirdbro hi-jacked?
[03:33] <hyphenated> oh, not worth the $$ in your case. fair enough
[03:33] <Daveyboy> do i need a swap partition ?
[03:34] <BIAF> tho, i think i should go for raid
[03:34] <swaj> Awesome-o2000, when did this happen?
[03:34] <BIAF> thx swaj, will check out now
[03:34] <Fracture> is it possible to install mysql server 4 and 5 side by side on ubuntu using apt ?
[03:34] <pike_> Daveyboy: yes it doesnt have to be huge maybe 256 to 500mb
[03:34] <Awesome-o2000> swaj, a couple of days ago
[03:34] <jinho> eobanb: nabi- a korean input system that needs an updated version of GTK
[03:34] <swaj> sigh, q:lines are amazing :P
[03:35] <eobanb> jinho, i assume you installed the 'nabi' package then?
[03:35] <Trae> Awesome-o2000 when did this happen?
[03:35] <BIAF> yes Fract, as far as i know, but better use 5 on its own?
[03:35] <jinho> eobanb: havent been able to
[03:35] <eobanb> why not?
[03:35] <jinho> eobanb: because GTK isnt updated yet
[03:36] <Healot> joen iman gamnida?
[03:36] <eobanb> jinho, apt should have resolved any such dependencies
[03:36] <majd_> Hi, i just bought an iMac and a macbook. I want to set my ubuntu box as the server for all my files and have my macs just be clients for all my: Music, Movies, Files, and Work
[03:36] <majd_> I have a public apache server setp
[03:36] <majd_> *setup
[03:37] <majd_> Where do i start?
[03:37] <eobanb> majd_, that's a big question.
[03:37] <majd_> i can't get to my shared folders from my mac
[03:37] <eobanb> majd_, one step at a time..
[03:37] <majd_> eobanb, i mean i dont even know what needs to be done :(
[03:37] <BIAF> goto 'places' Majd, search for ur mac IP
[03:37] <majd_> i'm willing to learn though
[03:37] <mgi> hey .. anyone here had much experience with dapper (2.6.15-25) and dvb-t?
[03:38] <cef> I'm getting "Paused: /usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" in the gnome print manager when printing to a remote ipp based printer. Used to work on this machine back when it ran breezy, but since the upgrade to dapper it's not working anymore. Any suggestions?
[03:38] <eobanb> majd_, i assume all you want to really do is just set up file sharing on the ubuntu machine so that the shares can be mounted on your two macs.
[03:38] <woodwizzlefoshiz> v
[03:38] <BIAF> majd_ : places, connect to server, then in there select 'windows share'
[03:39] <BIAF> then where server box is, type ur mac's ip
[03:39] <eobanb> BIAF, i don't think you understand what he's trying to do
[03:39] <TSCHAK> what determines which buttons show up on the shutdown panel????
[03:39] <BIAF> but no point looking for share if ur mac not shared right
[03:39] <BIAF> prob'ly not
[03:40] <Daveyboy> why is the oem install (gui) exactly the same as text based install ....bith are vga blue screen mode
[03:40] <eobanb> BIAF, majd_ is trying to use his ubuntu machine as a file server, and to that end he needs to install samba or nfs on the ubuntu machine
[03:40] <yallaman> what fps games are nice under linux?
[03:40] <eobanb> yallaman, tremulous ?
[03:41] <yallaman> never heard of that:P
[03:41] <eobanb> yallaman, to what games are you referring
[03:41] <Healot> egoboo
[03:41] <void^> Daveyboy: gui install is on desktop install cds, alternate install cds are text mode only
[03:41] <badrinarayan> eobanb, we can also install Netatalk, avahi-daemon, libnss-mdns so that the ubunntu server has zeroconf support and can talk apple talk protocols.
[03:41] <eobanb> open-source linux games, ports of windows games, windows games under wine..?
[03:41] <yallaman> 3d/opengl first-person shooter..or similar