[00:00] <trakinas> !ics
[00:00] <jrib> uLinux: what exactly do you mean by "doesn't do nothing"?
[00:00] <uLinux> jrib: doesnt open videos with VLC by default.. already tried to logout
[00:00] <bazhang> uLinux, this is using mint?
[00:00] <uLinux> Ubuntu
[00:01] <jrib> !defaultapp | uLinux
[00:01] <uLinux> Lucid
[00:01] <trakinas> no one?
[00:01] <kreeper> my sound on my computer isn't working, when i click on system/prefrences/sound it just pops up an error box saying "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[00:01] <uLinux> jrib: that way works.. but the other way doesnt
[00:01] <trakinas> kreeper: was it working before?
[00:01] <kreeper> yes
[00:01] <uLinux> i need to select manually for each format sucks
[00:01] <jrib> uLinux: I'm not familiar with the other setting
[00:02] <kreeper> trakinas: i think i may have uninstalled the sound package
[00:02] <jrib> uLinux: I *think* the general setting you are talking about is more for things like when you put in a dvd, etc.
[00:02] <ring1> uLinux, you could check out ubuntu tweak, which lets you configure all formats at a time
[00:02] <trakinas> kreeper: try to restart the sound services
[00:02] <uLinux> ring1: thats what im doing ;)
[00:03] <kreeper> trakinas: how?
[00:03] <uLinux> but yeah i just didnt uninstalled Totem because of quicktime plugin..
[00:04] <smegzor> CamFox: in nautilus I selected them all and deleted them while holding down shift.
[00:04] <smegzor> they are all mythtv files so their loss isn't the end of the world, though I would like to un-loose them
[00:06] <Aemaeth> i think i need help with my fstab, last time i touched it all sorts of craziness happened until i livecd'd up and deleted my line of text.  my fstab is currently http://paste.ubuntu.com/496145/  and the harddrive info is here: http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2327/screenshot4kg.png
[00:06] <jrib> Aemaeth: so what do you think you need to add?
[00:06] <ClanDouglas> Hello.. I have something I could use help with.. no matter how many browser windows I open, the notification panel shows only one object that when clicked lets me choose which to view.. how do I get it back to one object per browser window?
[00:07] <Aemaeth>  i need Data which is /sda7/
[00:07] <buzzard32> thisperson did that help?
[00:07] <jrib> Aemaeth: yes, construct an fstab line for it.  I'll tell you if anything is wrong
[00:07] <snow_usa> hi
[00:08] <brain0r> hi
[00:08] <Leman_Russ> The Lenovo Ideacentre 320 has an nVidia GeForce 310 GFX card.  Has this card had any issues with Ubuntu?
[00:08] <juve3> CIao
[00:08] <Aemaeth> jrib, k, one sec
[00:08] <juve3> !list
[00:08] <ThisPerson> buzzard32; I am working on it.  This is what I was looking for.    Is there a utility or command to move all files(photos) in a directory(an subdirectories) into a single directory, removing digitally identical ones and renaming unique ones when their name exists already?  I'd try 'hacking' together a quick and dirty python script, but I'm very new to python and don't want to mess things up.  Any ideas?
[00:09] <Aemaeth> jrib, UUID=a3c50d78-9b94-41c6-b2d2-a9b23eb78fd1   /media/Data  ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[00:10] <Aemaeth> the options field and numbers after that i don't understand
[00:10] <jrib> Aemaeth: just use "defaults" for options and the last number should be a '2' instead of a '1'
[00:11] <erUSUL> CT1: maybe better run fdup in the dirtree then move the files ?
[00:11] <kreeper> trakinas: how do i restart the sound services?
[00:11] <trakinas> kreeper: i quite dont remember. sorry. =/
[00:11] <CamFox> smegzor: I think you're out of luck, most likely. Check the link from ubottu perhaps
[00:12] <Aemaeth> jrib, k, if i make it back, thanks
[00:12] <kreeper> ok, then does anyone else know how to restart the sound services?
[00:12] <trakinas> I have an WiFi connection (ubuntu). and ordinary ethernet cable. I want to share tmy connection with and win machine (which does not have a wifi cable, nor a gigantic cable able to  reach the house's second floor. ). so.... My Ubuntu has "share internet connectio" checked. Rebooted. xp cant get ips through dhcp, nor ping <IP_ADDRESS> (my machine) if I manually setup it
[00:12] <trakinas> any thought?
[00:12] <saikat> anyone here good with monit?
[00:13] <CamFox> !undelete | smegzor
[00:13] <trakinas> kreeper: probably pulseaudio restart
[00:13] <ClanDouglas> trakinas: firewall?
[00:13] <[R]> trakinas: you need a crossover cable
[00:13] <fordfasterr> for some reason, apt won't fetch webmin for me on ubuntu server 64 bit.
[00:13] <trakinas> ClanDouglas: on windows?
[00:13] <fordfasterr> This worked fine with a similar 32-bit install... any ideas ?
[00:13] <erUSUL> !webmin | fordfasterr it is not there
[00:13] <ClanDouglas> No.. Ubuntu Lucid Lynx.
[00:13] <trakinas> [R]: no, I dont.
[00:13] <[R]> trakinas: if you say so
[00:14] <trakinas> [R]: I could share it with an old iBook once
[00:14] <ClanDouglas> Oh.. yes.. windows..
[00:14] <fordfasterr> damn.
[00:14] <fordfasterr> but I like it !!
[00:14] <[R]> trakinas: maybe the ibook's network card was smart and your laptop's and the windows' isn't
[00:14] <CT1> erUSUL: Thanks.  Looks like half the solution already!
[00:14] <Shwaiil> Q: I've installed ubuntu first time, wirless is not working. Trying to fix it, but there's a dependency error DKMS. The computer has no internet connection, no ethernet available.  Any tip ? tks
[00:14] <Shwaiil> Error: dependency is not satisfiable: dkms
[00:15] <maco> Shwaiil: dkms is what automatically compiles drivers for the running kernel. it should be available if you use the cd as a repository, i believe
[00:15] <llutz> !info dkms
[00:16] <trakinas> [R]: perhaps! I just wanted to test some stuff here, nothing important anyway, I could hook a wireless card on it, but I cant open because I will avoid warrant. and since this isnt my machine, I won't take the risk.
[00:16] <ThisPerson> buzzard32; I think this will work.  Thanks.
[00:16] <[R]> trakinas: so get a hub/switch and try again
[00:16] <[R]> trakinas: that'll rule out the cable
[00:16] <buzzard32> thisperson you are welcome
[00:16] <[R]> trakinas: or just get a crossover cable
[00:16] <trakinas> fordfasterr: you could try opennms if that fit your needs
[00:17] <trakinas> [R]: I dont have any connector here, or else, if try that. thank you anyway.
[00:17] <fordfasterr> as long as I have something similar to webmin, that'll do it for me.
[00:17] <fordfasterr> and it must be web based.
[00:17] <trakinas> *I'd try that.... not if...
[00:18] <erUSUL> !ebox | fordfasterr
[00:18] <Aemaeth> jrib, thanks! now my porno wallpapers saved on my data drive get loaded up on boot!
[00:18] <trakinas> fordfasterr: what webmin does, exactly?
[00:18] <erUSUL> fordfasterr: the webimin factpid mentions ebox
[00:18] <jrib> Aemaeth: great!
[00:18] <Aemaeth> surely you are a king among men
[00:19] <dwight> Can anyone help? I have a box that won't boot.
[00:19] <fordfasterr> ebox, 141 mb !
[00:19] <fordfasterr> omg. lol
[00:19] <Shwaiil> maco, thanks for lookinh. "it should be available if u use the cd as a repository", on the help I see "in comonent main". This is my first time in ubuntu, or even linux. Are u refearing to the cd I downloaded from ubuntu ?!
[00:20] <maco> Shwaiil: yes that one
[00:20] <maco> Shwaiil: you can put it in and ubuntu will offer to use it as a repository for installing software offline
[00:20] <Shwaiil> maco, ah ok found on the cd. but the way the cd is organized I had to keep opening folders till find it :P
[00:20] <buzzard32> dwight first figure out if it is hardware or software
[00:20] <EvilPhoenix> dwight:  we need more details than that
[00:20] <mhall119> what's a good/easy way to stream MP3s from a Linux server to multiple other computers on the same network, preferably Linux and Windows ones?
[00:21] <Shwaiil> maco, I dont know how to make ubuntu use it as a repository, so I explored it manually :P
[00:21] <bazhang> mhall119, mpd perhaps
[00:21] <bazhang> !info mpd
[00:21] <maco> Shwaiil: hm i thought it should pop up a thing in ubuntu... system -> administration -> software sources would also have an option for it
[00:21] <buzzard32> dwight does the power supply light up
[00:22] <dwight> buzzard32  software. seems like it can't locate kernel.
[00:22] <dwight> error message happens after grub
[00:22] <buzzard32> dwight so live cd boots ok then?
[00:22] <bazhang> mhall119, and a client such as sonata or the like
[00:22] <dwight> live cd is fine
[00:22] <dwight> it's up right now
[00:23] <buzzard32> version 10.04 is what will not start?
[00:23] <Leman_Russ> [R] There are always issue possibilities with Ubuntu.  I rarely get anything running on it simply.
[00:23] <dwight> yes. 10.04
[00:23] <[R]> Leman_Russ: you're doing somethign wrong then... things always "just work" for me in ubuntu
[00:24] <dwight> tried fsck; got no errors. hope i did it correctly.
[00:24] <mhall119> bazhang: anything using a standardized protocol, or maybe itunes compatible?
[00:24] <Leman_Russ> [R] Everything?  I don't believe you.  For example, have you ever tried installing an E-MU 1616m soundcard?
[00:24] <IdleOne> mhall119: vlc can stream
[00:24] <[R]> Leman_Russ: i'ev never even heard of an e-mu
[00:24] <mhall119> IdleOne: stream in, or out?
[00:24] <IdleOne> mhall119: both
[00:24] <buzzard32> dwight maybe x is not coming up, are you getting to a command line
[00:24] <mhall119> okay, I'll look into that
[00:25] <IdleOne> mhall119: there are a few howto's out on the tubes
[00:25] <mhall119> do any of these offer remote-control? next, prev, play pause, etc?
[00:25] <step21> mhall119: there should be things that show up in itunes as a library or something, but don't remember the acronym atm
[00:25] <IdleOne> mhall119: that I don't know
[00:25] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: my experience is similar to yours. Stuff works, more or less, but things need lots of twiddling before they work the way you want...
[00:25] <ntr0py> it eclipse with sun java broken on ubuntu?
[00:25] <dwight> I am not getting to command line. System fails to locate a kernel
[00:26] <tensorpudding> dwight: is it a grub error?
[00:26] <Leman_Russ> [R] well there you go then.  If you are going things like browsing on the internet and using IRC, Ubuntu is fine, but when you need to do something a little more esoteric or away from what most people use computers for, it shows cracks
[00:26] <buzzard32> dwight are there multiple os installs?
[00:26] <[R]> Leman_Russ: and a plain old regular nvidia card is "esoteric"?
[00:26] <mhall119> ntr0py: did you get the gcj version of Eclipse, or the regular one?
[00:26] <maco> [R]: or maybe you're just lucky / vigilant in your hardware purchases. not everyone is. if all hardware just worked, kernel hackers could all retire to a beach in hawaii
[00:27] <dwight> I think it is a grub error, but not sure. There's only one OS installed.
[00:27] <callgary> Hey, anybody ever run ubuntu on twin flat screens and a xfx 7600 (nvidia) card???
[00:27] <ernestoxbox> hola
[00:27] <mhall119> maco: nah, there'd still be scheduler fights to win
[00:27] <ernestoxbox> no
[00:27] <sudobash> my lexmark X5070 stopped working, I am getting errors in dmesg like usb 1-8: usbfs: interface 2 claimed by usb-storage while 'usb' sets config #1, it was usblp instead of usb_storage but I blacklisted usblp and it went to usb_storage, if I rmmod usb_storage it goes to usb_hid and if I rmmod that all USB stops
[00:27] <maco> mhall119: heh thats true
[00:27] <ntr0py> mhall119: i took it from the std repos as i did with sun java on my x64 ubuntu 10.04
[00:27] <ernestoxbox> como integrar firefox on kde 4( kubuntu+
[00:28] <IdleOne> !es | ernestoxbox
[00:28] <bazhang> ernestoxbox, english here please
[00:28] <ntr0py> mhall119: i do get a segfault in com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.parsers.XML11Configuration.parse
[00:28] <ernestoxbox> ok
[00:28] <buzzard32> dwight Try reinstalling grub
[00:28] <Leman_Russ> [R]  You are obviously not aware of the ATi issues which pop up ALL the time.
[00:29] <[R]> Leman_Russ: ati is crap
[00:29] <[R]> Leman_Russ: everyone knwos that
[00:29] <callgary> Hey, anybody ever run ubuntu on twin flat screens and a xfx 7600 (nvidia) card???
[00:29] <dwight> Can you talk me through that? I know chroot is involved, but I can't remember everything.
[00:29] <sudobash> how does it help just bashing a manufacturer instead of trying to help the guy out
[00:29] <maco> [R]: which is irrelevant to the simple fact that < 100% of hardware is 100% perfectly supported in linux
[00:29] <mhall119> ntr0py: hmmm, looks like a problem with the xml parser, weird
[00:29] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: In fairness, I hae to add tha the 'esoterica' issue isn't confined to Ubuntu, or even linux or even operating systems. Basically. the more obscure the task, the more less well debugged/document it will be...
[00:30] <maco> [R]: now please stop trying to tell users it is *their* fault for "doing something wrong" when a driver is just plain crap
[00:30] <Leman_Russ> [R]yes, but they are a GFX card manufacturer, and I was asking a question about another GFX card manufacturer because of possible issue.  Researching before purchase, if you will
[00:30] <tru3fate> can anyone tell me wat messenger can video chat
[00:30] <sudobash> the errors go from usblp to usb_storage to usbhid
[00:30] <mhall119> ntr0py: do any other Java apps run?
[00:30] <buzzard32> dwight restore grub 2 from the following link
[00:30] <JoeSomebody> can an ati 4650 card work in ubuntu? is there a page about it somewhere?
[00:30] <fordfasterr> ok, now I have ebox
[00:30] <buzzard32> dwight https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[00:30] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: more less -> less
[00:30] <fordfasterr> ... but no way to modify or install anything...
[00:31] <sudobash> usb 1-8: usbfs: interface 2 claimed by usb-storage while 'usb' sets config #1
 Oh, I agree 100%.  I am only talking about Ubuntu because this is the OS I want to use.  If I was going to be using XP, or whatever, I would be asking the same questions on some XP forum, wouldn't I.
[00:31] <_dreamy> hi does anyone knows whats wrong with amule when it starts shown numbers above 2000 sources .. and strange file names?
[00:31] <Ekips> What's the best way to add an IPv6 IP to an kvm tunnel interface? (I'm using sixxs tunnels and kvm) Adding it to /etc/network/interfaces as described here: http://www.sixxs.net/wiki/KVM doesn't seem to work
[00:31] <fordfasterr> I want to change samba/apache settings, etc...
[00:31] <sudobash> its like the printer doesnt have the right permissions or something
[00:32] <Ekips> Neither can I manually add an IPv6 IP to the bridge interface
[00:32] <dwight> buzzard 32 I'll try this right now and get back to you. Thanks.
[00:32] <callgary> tru3fate: google does video chat
[00:33] <Loshki> Does skype do video yet?
[00:33] <maco> Loshki: yes
[00:33] <EvilPhoenix> if I need ebox to run at its basic level, provide network time sync, and i need it to manage the firewall, what do I need to install for it?
[00:33] <Loshki> maco: thanks
[00:33] <Exxon> tru3fate:  can do video chat with amsn
[00:34] <callgary> tru3fate: goto google web page and add the chat gadget
[00:34] <ntr0py> mhall119: it worked before but some ubdate seems to have broken thinks badly
[00:35] <mhall119> ntr0py: try installing libxerces2-java, maybe eclipse will use that instead of the sun packages classes
[00:35] <callgary> tru3fate: also Skype is a free download and is specifically for video chat
[00:36] <fordfasterr> also, the module status page doesn't show any of my other installed servers... strange
[00:36] <ntr0py> mhall119: i had installed 2.9.1
[00:37] <shugart> whats the best way to figure out if my ubuntu install is hung on creating the partition ?
[00:37] <callgary> Hey, anybody ever run ubuntu on twin flat screens and a xfx 7600 (nvidia) card???
[00:38] <fordfasterr> ok, the wiki says to run this command: sudo apt-get install “^ebox-.*”
[00:38] <fordfasterr> another 175 mb and we'll see if I get all of the modules...
[00:38] <JoeSomebody> can an ati 4650 card work in ubuntu? IF so is there a page about it somewhere?
[00:38] <fordfasterr> I'll be out of drive space soon... this test platform is an amd64 thin client with just 2 gigs of flash storage.
[00:39] <ntr0py> mhall119: other java apps and browser applets have no probs so far...
[00:39] <step21> mhall119: what you want is called daap sharing. rhythmbox, banshee, songbird all have it at least as a plugin and there are also server like apps like firefly media server
[00:39] <jandtd> cool so Im not a trool anymore!!!
[00:40] <Loshki> fordfasterr: Um, out-of-the-box ubuntu isn't configured to be particularly economical with drive space. You can probably cut the size back if you need to...
[00:41] <step21> Loshki: yeah, like delete openoffice
[00:41] <ntr0py> mhall119: this is what i get when i start eclipse freshly installed http://pastebin.com/cY9v1Wkg
[00:41] <CT1> 2 questions, how can I move all files in a directory's subdirectories  to its root, renaming files with the same name? Secondly, is it wise to have 10000+ files in a single directory on an ntfs volume?
[00:42] <jandtd> anyhow  how do I make more space on a extended partition so I can use another 50GB?
[00:42] <Loshki> fordfasterr: step21: the desktop stuff seems to be quite bulky too, if you can live without one, or with a lighter-weight one...
[00:43] <uLinux>  I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 but couldnt get back to GUI
[00:43] <uLinux> o.o
[00:43] <CT1> jandtd: Try gparted
[00:43] <Merritt> Updates seem to have frozen setting up a new kernel. Can anyone tell me the safe way to deal with this? Just kill it and restart updates, or..? http://picpaste.com/pics/update-fail-iBPioYNV.1284845951.png Thanks!
[00:43] <trakinas> uLinux: do the same but with f7
[00:43] <uLinux> trakinas: didnt know :P so i hit ctrl alt del or something
[00:44] <jandtd> CT1: how does one do that?
[00:44] <step21> Loshki: true.
[00:44] <trakinas> uLinux: you have different ttys on f*
[00:44] <callgary> use the mv command
[00:44] <uLinux> ttys?
[00:44] <trakinas> !tty | uLinux
[00:44] <dwight> buzzard32 got new error message
[00:45] <Shwaiil> Q: I on the terminal, theres sudo password for current user, but I cant input trough keyboard
[00:45] <Loshki> fordfasterr: step21: is there a lighter variant than a server install?
[00:45] <dwight> error: couldn't read file
[00:45] <trakinas> Shwaiil: yes you can. it just not displayed
[00:45] <callgary> CT1: use the mv command > mv filename /dir/subdir/
[00:45] <uLinux> nice
[00:45] <CT1> jandtd: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package manager.  Search for gparted and install it.  Are you in ubuntu?
[00:45] <Jay-> is there a program for ubuntu that is like the mac that allows me to launch apps by starting to type the name and then hitting enter?
[00:46] <step21> Loshki: probably, but not sure if that is much use to you
[00:46] <dwight> kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on uknown -block(0,0)
[00:46] <Jay-> i think it's called spotlight in mac os
[00:46] <step21> Jay-: yes ...
[00:46] <jandtd> CT1: yes  GParted is in stalled   just looking for the safest way to do it
[00:46] <ntr0py> anyone has eclipse running with Sun Java on x64 Lucid?
[00:47] <IdleOne> Jay-: gnome-do
[00:47] <Loshki> I found this on google: http://lightlinux.blogspot.com/2009/02/lightweight-ubuntu-derivatives-for-old.html
[00:47] <tensorpudding> Jay-: I think you're thinking of Quicksilver, and there is, it's called Gnome-Do
[00:47] <Jay-> awesome, does it run well?
[00:47] <IdleOne> Jay-: give it a try :)
[00:47] <xangua> Jay-: gnome-do. kupfer, launchy; kde desktop has it built in
[00:47] <tensorpudding> Jay-: indeed
[00:47] <Jay-> will do thanks
[00:47] <buzzard32> dwight error when grub reinstall or boot up?
[00:47] <Jay-> my mac has made me kinda lazy i guess lol
[00:47] <shugart> any reason why when I run gparted from the live CD that I get an error saying "/dev/sda1 is apparently in use by the system;"
[00:48] <xjkx> why does it say like "it's not possible to move to the trash, wanna delete" ? why would it not, there is space in the disk
[00:48] <mhall119> ntr0py: have you tried the 32bit java?
[00:48] <dwight> buzzard32 error booting system after grub reinstall
[00:48] <CT1> jandtd: Although I've never had any problems with resizing/moving partitions, it's never 100% safe.  Have you backed up any important files?
[00:49] <step21> Jay-: if gnome-do is not to your liking try tracker or beagle
[00:49] <ntr0py> mhall119: not yet, it worked fine with x64 before and other apps have no problems ...
[00:49] <buzzard32> dwight so grub reinstall said succeded then
[00:49] <trakinas> Jay-: those mentioned are more like QuickSilver than the other one I keep forgetting its name
[00:49] <dwight> buzzard32 yes
[00:50] <xjkx> is there a mb limit for moving to the trash ? file was 3gb
[00:50] <mhall119> ntr0py: I see that it's running the server vm, can you tell it to use the client vm?
[00:50] <jandtd> CT1: backed up all stuff I need  neeed to know what partition to delete
[00:50] <Blue1Away> !md5sum
[00:50] <buzzard32> dwight do you have the data on the partition backed up?
[00:50] <Loshki> !grub | dwight Have you poked around this stuff yet?
[00:50] <jandtd> CT1:I have sda10 sda11 and sda12  Im thinking sda12 should go
[00:51] <Loshki> dwight: actually, you want grub2 for 10.04
[00:51] <ntr0py> mhall119: i dont know how i can do that
[00:51] <CT1> What file system does gparted say each of those are?
[00:51] <Shwaiil> Lol stabilished the wireless connection, after installing packages etc following some tips on forums and now the laptop internal mouse doesnt work, stopped working
[00:51] <CT1> jandtd:  What file system does gparted say each of those are?
[00:52] <jandtd> CT1: if I delete sda12 will it mess up my hard drive
[00:52] <dwight> buzzard32 most of it, but I run MythTV on this thing and setting up the database it gonna be a huge PITA
[00:52] <jandtd> CT1: all are EXT2
[00:52] <CT1> jandtd: it will only "mess up" that partition. Not the entire drive.  What is in that partition now?
[00:52] <Shwaiil> Q: How to put that cool effect that makes the windows "morph" when moving or something like this ? Tks
[00:53] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: Compiz can do that
[00:53] <CT1> jandtd: is there anything listed under Mount Point column in gparted for that partition?
[00:53] <bunny_flask> where do i find the start button?
[00:53] <Shwaiil> tensorpudding, this is my first ubuntu/linux run, what is compiz ?
[00:53] <dwight> I just realized that my live disk is 9.10.
[00:53] <jandtd> CT1: just some old movies and some music file (2004 stuff!!)
[00:54] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: compiz is a graphical thing that gives you desktop effects
[00:54] <buzzard32> dwight I am not going to be able to help you further. It sounds like you are having an issue with needing a file and i do not know how you could recover it with out an os reinstall.
[00:54] <dwight> buzzard32 I'll try again with a 10.04 disk
[00:54] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: Download the Advanced Desktop Effects Settings program from the software center
[00:54] <CT1> jandtd: Well, if you've backed up anything you need on that partition, go ahead and delete it.
[00:54] <Loshki> !grub2 | dwight
[00:55] <buzzard32> dwight what cd did you use before?
[00:55] <Shwaiil> after googling it looks that I need a 3d card. this laptop comes with the intel chip :P I dont know if its enough
[00:55] <dwight> thanks for your effort buzzard32
[00:55] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: Compiz is installed by default, but you need to download the advanced configuration widget
[00:55] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: Your chip is probably good enough.
[00:55] <Aemaeth> Shwaiil, when working with compiz, i find the fusion applet is also helpful
[00:55] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: If it can run Windows 7 with Aero, it can probably run Compiz.
[00:56] <jandtd> CT1:  if I delete this partition I can add it to the extended partition?
[00:56] <nothingspecial> tensorpudding: compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:56] <buzzard32> dwight you may have used a cd with the wrong version of grub
[00:56] <Loshki> dwight: it will be easier for us to help you if you could famiiarize yourself with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2...
[00:56] <Aemaeth> Shwaiil, and of course the additional packages
[00:56] <CT1> jandtd: do you have a live cd incase you can't boot after?  Don't panic if you can't boot.  It is easy to fix, boot with live cd and ask again.  I've run into a problem where removing a partition and moving another then resizing (well, alot of stuff) my other partitions changed number.
[00:56] <dwight> Loshki ubottu I looked at that stuff, but didn't try it initially as my error message caused me to think it was something else
[00:56] <notworking> my tunapie2 audio is really choppy and stips
[00:56] <notworking> stops
[00:57] <mhall119> ntr0py: pass -client to the java command
[00:57] <ramu> hi, i use wireless network. how to find other computers in network?? for sharing
[00:57] <tensorpudding> Shwaiil: I think the effect name your looking for is Wobbly Windows
[00:57] <mhall119> ntr0py: but reading the manpage, it seems 64-bit java only has the Server VM
[00:57] <jandtd> CT1:  thats ok Im on a live cd now
[00:57] <ramu> hi, i use wireless network. how to find other computers in network?? for sharing
[00:57] <nothingspecial> ramu: depends what they are runnining
[00:57] <Aemaeth> i luv the wobbily windows
[00:57] <ramu> i didnt get you
[00:57] <buzzard32> dwight what ubuntu live cd version did you try previously?
[00:58] <CT1> jandtd: Yes, I assume it's in the extended partition now right?
[00:58] <ramu> im using ubuntu 10
[00:58] <ramu> .04
[00:58] <uLinux> ramu: if the other machines are using windows you need to install samba
[00:58] <Loshki> dwight: your symptoms sound to me like grub is misconfigured. It's supposed to autoconfigure itself, but sometimes it messes up.
[00:58] <TiK_> ubuntu > fedora
[00:58] <dwight> I accidentally did 9.10
[00:58] <ramu> ok
[00:58] <nothingspecial> rammu: windows, linux?
[00:58] <ramu> im using linuxunbuntu
[00:58] <ramu> other windows7
[00:58] <dwight> I accidentally did 9.10 buzzard32 Loshki
[00:58] <jandtd> CT1: yes extended partition
[00:58] <nothingspecial> rammu: samba
[00:58] <ramu> ok
[00:59] <ramu> thank you very much @all]
[00:59] <ramu> ill try now
[00:59] <dwight> buzzard32 Loshki I'll burn a 10.04 CD and try this again
[00:59] <Loshki> dwight: 9.10 and 10.4 are pretty close. It might work to try doing a grub2 reinstall from 9.10...
[00:59] <CT1> jandtd: Go ahead.  Best of luck!
[01:00] <jandtd> Im glad you helping as I was clled a trool before like before?
[01:00] <Loshki> dwight: is there something special about your hardware you haven't told us about yet? A reason why the autoconfigure would fail?
[01:00] <dwight> Loshki: If that's the case, I already did the reinstall
[01:01] <jandtd> CT1: so delete sad12?
[01:02] <buzzard32> dwight the part you want to try at the link I gave you earlier is the reinstalling grub2 with the 10.04 live cd
[01:02] <dwight> Loshki: Nothing exotic. Some TV tuners, a Geforce 210... Pretty vanilla.
[01:02] <jandtd> CT1: so delete sda*12?
[01:02] <Loshki> dwight: I'm concerned that if the autoconfig already failed once, it might keep on failing, in which case you may have to do some hand-editing.
[01:02] <CT1> jandtd: If all you've told me so far is true, and I understood it all correctly, yes.
[01:03] <Loshki> dwight: so was this an upgrade? Or a from-scratch mythtv system you're trying to put together?
[01:04] <jandtd> CT1: ok will do that and let you know how it goes
[01:04] <dwight> Loshki: It's been running for 6 months. No upgrade. 10.04 clean install.
[01:04] <shugart> okay, I'm going crazy here, how come I can't get ubuntu 10.04.1 live CD to launch the installer ?
[01:05] <teepark> on my wife's laptop, since upgrading to 10.4 the network manager applet has been missing from the notification area. it has a nm-applet process running but its just not showing up. has anyone seen this before / is it a known problem?
[01:05] <Loshki> dwight: so it used to boot, and suddenly now it doesn't? Do you know what changed?
[01:05] <Bridge|> shugart: should be first thing to happen once gui hits then if u choose to test ubuntu there should be a installer.sh on the desktop
[01:06] <uLinux> teepark: did u try to reinstall the applet
[01:06] <teepark> yeah, I just tried that then logged out of the user and back in
[01:06] <teepark> no dice
[01:06] <shugart> Bridge|: yeah, I end up have to go through the sh script on the gui, which is the first time in 5 years I've had to do it this way
[01:06] <teepark> package i reinstalled was network-manager-gnome
[01:07] <shugart> Bridge|: does the server edition do the same thing?
[01:07] <Bridge|> it doesnt pop-up with options test or install on boot?
[01:07] <Loshki> dwight: either way, you need to be reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[01:07] <ramu> hi, how to install samba?
[01:07] <dwight> Loshki: Over time, it seemed that Grub got fickle. Hardware change a bit, but nothing dramatic
[01:07] <Bridge|> never tried the server ed, just the reg ubuntu distros and netbook remix, and they always gave u option
[01:07] <ramu> i have tried sudo apt-get install samba
[01:08] <ramu> for network sharing from friends
[01:08] <Loshki> dwight: did you move disks around? That can invalidate a boot config....
[01:08] <uLinux> teepark: just a silly question.. is it starting up on boot? (startup applications
[01:08] <uLinux> system > preferences > startup applications
[01:09] <Bridge|> from my understandings and i know i'll prob be barked at by saying this the only main differences is diff kernal and LAMP server all ready installed
[01:09] <dwight> Loshki: Yes, but a long time ago. Has booted since then.
[01:09] <ramu> how to install samba for file sharing
[01:09] <shugart> Bridge|: okay, yeah, I'm going to try the server ed, and just run taskel when I need to
[01:09] <teepark> I see a networkmanager entry in the startup programs
[01:09] <uLinux> ramu: sudo apt-get install samba (from terminal)
[01:09] <hayley> I need some help with installing some type of flash player.
[01:09] <notworking> OK  Ive got tunapie to work except there is a chirping, crackling kinda sound OVER the song being played..something like a bad cell reception but over the song playing.. can someone help me ubuntu 10.04
[01:09] <teepark> nothing specific to the applet, but I do still have an nm-applet process running
[01:09] <Loshki> dwight: back to the 'reinstalling grub2' page for you, then....
[01:10] <buzzard32> dwight how old is the hard drive that has the linux partion on it?
[01:10] <uLinux> teepark: maybe it's a panel bug?
[01:10] <uLinux> try to remove the applet from the panel
[01:10] <uLinux> and add again
[01:11] <teepark> the thing is, I checked on my laptop where it works, and it's not a panel app -- it goes into the systray, and there's a systray panel app
[01:11] <uLinux> ramu: or go to Software Center, search for samba and install the first one
[01:11] <ramu> ok
[01:11] <ramu> thanks
[01:11] <nothingspecial> ramu: that should have worked, did you get an error?
[01:12] <dwight> buzzard32 9 months to a year. Look great on SMART yesterday
[01:12] <d1gital> Hello, room.  I need to make all of the contents of my monitor mirrored (as in a mirror image).  Any ideas?
[01:12] <teepark> omfg that did actually work though
[01:12] <fejes> is anyone familiar with networkmanager.
[01:12] <fejes> ?
[01:12] <teepark> whatever, I can't explain it but good enough :)
[01:12] <teepark> thanks
[01:12] <uLinux> ramu: what is your groupname? workgroup?
[01:12] <uLinux> lol teepark
[01:12] <uLinux> :)
[01:12] <fejes> I have a ridiculous problem with networkmanager not managing the wireless connection
[01:12] <buzzard32> dwight just wondering if it could be hardware but does not sound likely
[01:13] <ramu> aryan$
[01:14] <dwight> buzzard32 Loshki Can a system have too many kernels?
[01:15] <uLinux> ramu: open a terminal and type gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:15] <d1gital> dwight only if they start to pop
[01:15] <uLinux> then you search for workgroup and put workgroup = aryan
[01:15] <fejes> Is there a way to force networkmanager to manage a connection and launch the dhcp...
[01:15] <shugart> new error: "Error creating partition: The Deamon is being inhibited"
[01:15] <dwight> d1gital cute :)
[01:16] <Loshki> dwight: the number of kernels shouldn't matter. Most people keep one current and one previous kernel, 'just in case'. Keeping more than 2 takes up disk space but it's otherwise harmless
[01:16] <ntr0py> mhall119: strange i did reinstall libxerces2-java and tried to reboot with older kernel, couldnt load the nvidia module and rebootet again with current ubuntu kernel and now eclipse starts with no errors??!
[01:16] <dwight> thanks Loshki
[01:16] <Loshki> dwight: good luck...
[01:17] <hayley> who do I ask questions?
[01:17] <fejes> no one here familiar with NetworkManager?
[01:17] <nothingspecial> fejes: what`s up with it?
[01:17] <Monkey_Dust> fejes: shoot
[01:17] <dwight> thanks Loshki
[01:17] <jandtd> dwight: as long as you boot partition is big enough to hlod them all ;)
[01:17] <fejes> nothingspecial: It manages the wired connection, but refuses to manage the wireless connection.
[01:17] <d1gital> Hello, room.  I need to make all of the contents of my monitor mirrored (as in a mirror image).  Any ideas?
[01:17] <fejes> Wireless was previously working, but has now stopped.
[01:18] <Psycho> hello
[01:18] <nothingspecial> fejes: continue, does it recognise it?
[01:18] <Psycho> does anyone know if its possible to install a logitech cam on ubuntu?
[01:18] <nothingspecial> fejas: have you had a kernel update/upgrade?
[01:19] <fejes> nothingspecial: the plasma applet shows it, I can do a sudo iwlist scan, etc... but Network manager in --no-daemon mode never gets past state 2 for it.
[01:19] <m3lvin> hello, a question about nfs, is it possible to mount a share using the name of a share instead of the path? mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/disk1 is the normal way, what I would like to do is <IP_ADDRESS>:/disk1, this way I could move things in the filesystem but keep the same path in remote computers without braking connections that other apps may have
[01:20] <fejes> nothingspecial: I don't believe i have in the last week.
[01:20] <mastertogo> Hello! I have wubi-installed ubuntu(10.04 i believe) installed on a laptop. The login screen is alll dark colors and when i type my password in it just goes back to the login screen, with an error about the battery manager. I can get into a terminal with ctrl-alt-1. `df' shows ubuntu's drive at 100% usage. I was unable to find a specific culprit with `du -h | sort -nr | less'. Running all the commands here: http://www.absolutelytech.com/
[01:20] <mastertogo> 2010/04/13/solved-unable-to-boot-due-to-gnome-power-manager-error/ does nothing. This happened after a popup said i only have 700mb left, followed by another one that said i have 0 left.
[01:20] <FloodBot3> mastertogo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <callgary> does ubuntu run on twin flatscreens
[01:20] <mastertogo> jesus that was longer than i thought, sorry
[01:20] <fejes> THe incident that triggered this was running out of batteries on my laptop, and it has only worked intermittently since then
[01:20] <callgary> does ubuntu run on twin flatscreens???
[01:21] <fejes> Claudinux: yes
[01:21] <fejes> oh.  oops
[01:21] <fejes> callgary: yes
[01:21] <nothingspecial> fejas: and iwlist etc works? just network-manager doesn`t?
[01:21] <fejes> nothingspecial: yep.  nm-tool shows a list of scanned networks, even
[01:21] <callgary> fejes: I have a nvidia 7600.  is it compatible
[01:22] <DarkSnake> hi? who is from russia?
[01:22] <fejes> callgary: I don't have a list off hand, but it likely is.
[01:22] <bazhang> !ru | DarkSnake
[01:22] <callgary> i'll run from CD first just to see
[01:22] <fejes> good plan
[01:22] <DarkSnake> thx
[01:23] <Loshki> mastertogo: try again with du -x | sort -rn | less.  You can't do an -rn sort because the output of du -h is not strictly numeric
[01:23] <nothingspecial> fejes: don`t know, sorry. Bug?
[01:23] <mastertogo> Loshki, thanks, i'll try that right away
[01:23] <fejes> nothingspecial: yeah.. I'm running out of ideas.  It worked well for the last 8 months.
[01:24] <coafcv> Ubuntu version 10.04.1 is the LTS one that is supported to April 2013, right?
[01:24] <notworking> OK  Ive got tunapie to work except there is a chirping, crackling kinda sound OVER the song being played..something like a bad cell reception but over the song playing.. can someone help me ubuntu 10.04
[01:24] <bazhang> coafcv, yep
[01:24] <jandtd> coafcv: no
[01:24] <fejes> I'm running out of ideas... reinstall, I suppose?
[01:24] <bazhang> jandtd, sure it is
[01:25] <buzzard32> coafcv yes
[01:25] <uLinux> Is there a way to play quicktime videos without Totem+plugin?
[01:25] <coafcv> thanks
[01:25] <bazhang> uLinux, from apple website?
[01:25] <nothingspecial> fejes: last resort - whats your wireless card
[01:25] <nothingspecial> fejes:
[01:25] <jandtd> bazhang: supported till 2013?
[01:25] <uLinux> yes bazhang
[01:26] <bazhang> jandtd, for desktop yes
[01:26] <nothingspecial> fejes: oops you`ve gone, me too
[01:26] <bazhang> uLinux, you need to wget them. apple's site is unfriendly to linux
[01:26] <buzzard32> coafcv the lts version says it is the lts version when you boot it up
[01:26] <uLinux> bazhang: yeah i know :P but wget doesnt work anymore
[01:27] <uLinux> neither with user agent
[01:27] <bazhang> uLinux, could be the forums have a workaround let me check
[01:27] <jandtd> bazhang: have we met before?
[01:28] <fab_> hello
[01:28] <uLinux> bazhang: i tried to ask here before but everyone said it was not possible to save apple trailers on Linux
[01:28] <buzzard32> hello
[01:28] <bazhang> jandtd, join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss if you wish
[01:28] <fab_> anyone peak french here ?
[01:28] <TiK> nope
[01:28] <fab_> speak
[01:29] <bazhang> uLinux, I'll check nonetheless
[01:29] <IdleOne> !fr | fab_
[01:29] <mwh05> hey all, i've followed this tutorial: http://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-10.04-lucid and am now trying to setup a Java application to send mail. Its asking for an SMTP server/port. What do?
[01:29] <fab_> ok thanks
[01:29] <Shwaiil> Q: How to move to next panel auto, when moving a window ?
[01:29] <TiK> mwh05: localhost / 25 ?
[01:29] <mwh05> ah
[01:29] <mwh05> wasn't sure if I had installed everything necessary
[01:29] <TiK> ;)
[01:30] <buzzard32> muh05 try port 25, that it the standard smtp port
[01:30] <jsidhu> hey ubuntu folks, ive got the latest 10.04.1 server running and Ive encountered an old bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hylafax/+bug/477478). Its marked as fixed way back in version 9.1 but its still showing up in 10.04.. its basically a hylafax-server hylafax-client related bug.. where can i check to see if there was a update to these packages?
[01:30] <bazhang> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tech-tip-view-apple-movie-trailers-firefox-linux uLinux though the quicktime version may have changed
[01:31] <sahil> how does ubuntu figure out which modules to load other than /etc/modules
[01:31] <brandon420> jsidhu, you should just be able to sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[01:31] <jacob_> Hello guys, i wat to install ubuntu 10.04 to my laptop. i have windows installed, so i did a shrink to create a partition from windows 7, but when i'm trying to install ubuntu, ubuntu did not see the new partition it i normal?
[01:32] <EroKaos> What program can I use to automount flash drives?
[01:32] <jsidhu> yeah i tried that brandon420, so if apt-get upgrade doesnt show it, then there's no update?
[01:32] <TiK> jacob: not even under "manual" ?
[01:33] <jacob_> yeah
[01:33] <rww> jsidhu: From the look of it, it was marked as fixed last month, actually. Launchpad shows that Maverick's version was updated recently, and that Lucid's is lower than the version discussed in that bug report, so no, there hasn't been an update to Lucid to address that bug.
[01:33] <jacob_> just does\nt see it
[01:33] <brandon420> jsidhu, i wouldnt think so. they keep it pretty upto date.
[01:33] <TiK> jacob: did you create the partition with gparted and a livecd?
[01:33] <jsidhu> rww: ok, how do i get the fix?
[01:33] <jacob_> now with windows 7
[01:33] <jsidhu> just wait and hope they release it sometime soon?
[01:34] <rww> jsidhu: It won't be updated in Lucid unless someone files a SRU request and it gets approved.
[01:34] <rww> !latest
[01:34] <rww> !sru
[01:34] <jacob_> now with windows 7
[01:34] <TiK> jacob_: use gparted :P
[01:34] <jacob_> ok
[01:34] <jacob_> it is better?
[01:34] <TiK> from a livecd
[01:34] <TiK> well its linux native
[01:34] <jacob_> ok thanks guys
[01:34] <TiK> simple
[01:35] <uLinux> btw bazhang on Firefox if I click on http://trailers.apple.com/movies/independent/9thcompany/9thcompany-tlr1_h1080p.mov it opens the trailer with Totem Movie Player and it works great..
[01:35] <fab_> is there any channel ubuntu france svp ?
[01:35] <bazhang> uLinux, okay nice
[01:35] <Loshki> !fr | fab
[01:35] <bazhang> fab_, yes #ubuntu-fr
[01:36] <rww> fab_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:36] <buzzard32> fab_ yes
[01:37] <buzzard32> fab_ list the channels, most languages are supported
[01:37] <mwh05> i don't think the smtp server was installed when I did http://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-10.04-lucid
[01:37] <kalm> what fs / raid config would be recommended for Ubuntu with: 2x 1TB 1x 2TB 1x 1.5TB drives?
[01:37] <sepehr> I saw Tahoma looks very ugly in Lucid, anyway to have it more sharp as it is in Windows? other than all those oldie threads I read in forums, telling me nothing!
[01:38] <WillPittenger> For some reason, Ubuntu is not letting me log in.  It accepts my password, but then the monitor goes into text moment for a second and I end up back at the login dialog.  No errors.  Just what resembles a really fast reboot.  This install is a VBox VM.
[01:38] <WillPittenger> Can someone help?
[01:38] <WillPittenger> I had just installed a bunch of packages.
[01:38] <buzzard32> mwh05 use the gui installer and the dependant parts will be included for you
[01:38] <bazhang> WillPittenger, guest additions installed?
[01:38] <WillPittenger> Yes.
[01:38] <mwh05> i'm going through SSH :(
[01:39] <bazhang> WillPittenger, which version of vbox
[01:39] <fab_> thanks bye
[01:39] <WillPittenger> 3.2.8 r64453
[01:40] <bazhang> WillPittenger, sorry, what I meant was the one from their site, or from ubuntu repos
[01:41] <WillPittenger> From their site.  The guest additions came from their CD.
[01:41] <bazhang> WillPittenger, not sure. you might try #vbox if you don't get a satisfactory answer here
[01:41] <WillPittenger> Well, I figured it was a Ubuntu issue.
[01:42] <WillPittenger> Ubuntu just happens to be on a VM.
[01:42] <TimR> as anyboy ran into debootstrap warning when trying to install ubunut
[01:42] <TimR> as anyboy ran into debootstrap warning when trying to install ubuntu*
[01:43] <mhall119> step21: mt-daapd works perfectly for me, thank you
[01:43] <Psycho> can anyone help me find a ubuntu driver for a logitech webcam c250h
[01:43] <Psycho> ?
[01:43] <Psycho> please?
[01:43] <Psycho> ive looked everywhere
[01:43] <Psycho> im not sure if it exists
[01:43] <FloodBot3> Psycho: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <ziggyfish> I use to be able to remotely login to another computer using X11 remote login, however I can't find this option in ubuntu 10.04, has this been removed?
[01:44] <JeroenzKlompz> oi psycho ;-)
[01:44] <Psycho> lol
[01:44] <bazhang> Psycho, check the list of supported webcams, then try cheese/camorama
[01:44] <bazhang> !webcam | Psycho
[01:44] <Viking667> hi there. Quick question to compile a kernel. I've just apt-got linux-source, it's left a tarball in /usr/src - do I simply extract that kernel tree? Or is there another package that holds extracted source?
[01:46] <step21> mhall119: you're welcome
[01:47]  * RadioListener The best balkan irc network irc.balkancafe.org visit us :) if you from balkan ;)
[01:47]  * rww hands idoru a cookie
[01:47] <LinuxGuy2009> I'm looking for an easy way to get a base system install on an offline machine. I tried the alternate CD but it doesnt let you do it. The minimal CD needs internet to work, which obviously wont help me. Can the server CD do this?
[01:47] <TimR> as anyboy ran into debootstrap warning when trying to install ubuntu
[01:48] <ubuntu> computer was on, has been on for the last 2 weeks, and I slightly bump it, it freezes, I reset I get grub error 15, I try looking at the HD from a live cd, and /home is empty ?
[01:48] <ubuntu> wtf is up with that ?
[01:49] <UnknownException> hey everyone. does any1 play warcraft on Garena client?
[01:49] <Viking667> ouch. Sounds ugly
[01:49] <ziggyfish> ubuntu, bad hardware
[01:49] <ziggyfish> ?
[01:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Do you have a separate /home partition?
[01:49] <Viking667> UnknownException: hm? never played it. I'm assuming you mean WoW?
[01:49] <ubuntu> ziggyfish, how can /home/myhome folder get deleted if I accidently slightly bumb it
[01:49] <ubuntu> bump
[01:50] <ubuntu> gay
[01:50] <UnknownException> Viking667, yes i mean wow. basically this is for playing Dota and not Wow. but still using Frozen Throne
[01:50] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: If you don't know, look in your /etc/fstab (or just pastebin it).
[01:50] <UnknownException> Viking667,  using a client called GArena which connects gamers.
[01:50] <ziggyfish> ubuntu, is it on a separate hard drive?
[01:50] <Viking667> Given I don't know what "Dota" means, I'm assuming it's a mod for Wow:Frozen Throne
[01:50] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Please be respectfull in this channel.
[01:50] <UnknownException> Viking667,  Dota is just a map
[01:50] <Viking667> ahh.
[01:51] <UnknownException> Viking667,  but it has become so popular now.
[01:51] <Viking667> heh. The good maps do that.
[01:51] <ziggyfish> brb
[01:51] <Viking667> The only thing that holds me away from WoW is the subscription... and as that's not going away any time soon (and I suppose, neither should it) I won't ever be seen on the shards
[01:51] <LinuxGuy2009> Can the server CD be used to do a base install and build it up from there?
[01:52] <UnknownException> Viking667, hehe. yeah. so my problem is, i got this program called Play on linux, that helped me Run the WIndows garena.exe using Wine. But through Garena i am having problem starting war3.exe. I can start war3.exe from the terminal using Wine.
[01:52] <UnknownException> Viking667,  i never started on Wow. and dont plan to. Its too much.
[01:52] <Viking667> Does Garena act as a server chooser for Wow?
[01:52] <ubuntu> ziggyfish nope
[01:53] <ubuntu> my home folder was on the hard drive I am trying to mount
[01:53] <UnknownException> Viking667,  yes for all games now. CS to Wow. But just acts as a lan emulator. Not wow. But maps that u can play on local area
[01:53] <ubuntu> well I can mount
[01:53] <ubuntu> /home/...
[01:53] <Viking667> ah, okay.
[01:53] <UnknownException> Viking667,  it has support for a lot of games and millions of users now
[01:53] <UnknownException> Viking667,  millions might be an exaggeration.
[01:54] <ubuntu> maybe it was a trojan virus
[01:54] <Viking667> heh. Given WoW has millions of users, at least some of those may well be using the Galena client.
[01:54] <step21> ubuntu: if you have another computer try accessing it there and try to recover things with testdisk
[01:54] <UnknownException> Viking667,  They are. but mostly use Windows.
[01:55] <bazhang> UnknownException, support question in there?
[01:55] <UnknownException> Viking I have it working using Wine and Play On lInux. But stuck at the last step, Just need Garena now to be able to run War3.exe
[01:56] <Viking667> Ah, sorry. Garena (galena is a chemical in the periodic table, I think... used to dope transistors with)
[01:56] <UnknownException> Viking667,  hahahaha.. I dont think Galena is an element. But will take your word for it.
[01:56] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: I doubt it.
[01:56] <tensorpudding> Galena is a mineral, lead sulfate I believe.
[01:57] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "sudo blkid"?
[01:57] <Viking667> ah... sounds better than my explanation
[01:57] <UnknownException> there we go. ya i remember the periodic table. never came across that.
[01:57] <bazhang> UnknownException, lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:57] <Viking667> but yes, it's certainly used in transistors
[01:58] <PiliStorm> i can't install ubuntu on fake raid
[01:59] <PiliStorm> ich10
[01:59] <jason_> hello
[01:59] <PiliStorm> help me
[01:59] <JLaverne> !hello jason
[01:59] <tensorpudding> !hi | jason_
[01:59] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Unless you need to dual boot with windows it's best to avoid Fake RAID?
[01:59] <JLaverne> woops
[01:59] <jason_> hello everone
[02:00] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Sorry, that wasn't meant to be a question :)
[02:00] <RandBrittain> Why is it that every time I try to make a USB stick that will boot Ubuntu using the Startup Disk Creator from inside Ubuntu, I get a "Boot Error" no matter which of my thumb drives I use?
[02:00] <CajunTechie> Hey everyone, anyone know the details of adding your own software to Software Center? I hear that's going to be supported starting in October.
[02:00] <PiliStorm> i dont need dual boot
[02:00] <PiliStorm> only ubuntu
[02:00] <evilbug> could faulty ram modules ruin an install process?
[02:00] <PiliStorm> i only install ubuntu
[02:00] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: you could always go for software raid
[02:00] <PiliStorm> i dont like soft raid
[02:00] <Guest62491> good afternoon. can anyone please assist me with a question. How can I make a folder being shared in samba smb.conf so that it is writable by selected IP's similar to host allow, but read only for other IP's?
[02:00] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.ca/1943866
[02:00] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Why?
[02:01] <PiliStorm> my chipset is ich10
[02:01] <bsmith0931> does wget have a specific order it downloads in when doing a mirror of a website?
[02:01] <PiliStorm> ich10r
[02:01] <RandBrittain> I mean, I would think the Startup Disk utility that comes with Ubuntu would work best, but apparently not?
[02:01] <PiliStorm> what can i do
[02:01] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Why don't you like Software RAID?
[02:01] <evilbug> i'm trying to install ubuntu on an older pc and the install always fails at kernel install.
[02:01] <PiliStorm> performence
[02:02] <Viking667> Software RAID uses the CPU to do some of the "heavy lifting"
[02:02] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, not sure what that is going to do...
[02:02] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: have you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[02:02] <PiliStorm> fake raid high performence
[02:02] <bsmith0931> wget ... does it mirror alphabetaically or just going down the root structure or what and in a mirror operation can i get an overall progress bar or not?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Fake RAID uses software running on the CPU just like linux Software RAID does. I actually expect Linux software RAID to be faster.
[02:02] <Viking667> ... whereas Hardware RAID is entirely in the internal interface, and usually doesn't need the CPU's help
[02:03] <PiliStorm> i sure hardware better than soft
[02:03] <Twist> Can anyone help me with a network card issue?
[02:03] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Fake RAID isn't hardware RAID.
[02:03] <PiliStorm> ich10r?
[02:03] <PiliStorm> is'nt hardware?
[02:04] <Jordan_U> PiliStorm: Hence the "fake". It's just code that runs in the BIOS, and only for the first few seconds of the boot process before the kernel starts.
[02:04] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: read the link I sent, it explains why "fake" RAID that is provided by southbridges like ICH10 is not a performance win
[02:04] <sedulous> Fake raid only exists to cirvumvent Windows restrictions, I'm sure.
[02:04] <ubuntu> ok so any clues as to how I can recover my missing /home folder on my hard drive that got bumped
[02:04] <sedulous> (desktop versions of Windows don't support S.W. RAID)
[02:04] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "sudo blkid"?
[02:04] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1943866
[02:05] <PiliStorm> but windows support fake raid perfect
[02:05] <RunningAim> hello..i have installed the latest ubuntu server and i have installed gnome.first question is whether i can make the system work as a domain so windows users can connect to it...and second question is whether i can resize my hard drive which is lvm.
[02:05] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.ca/1943868
[02:05] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, ^
[02:06] <jfullernz> good afternoon. can anyone please assist me with a question. How can I make a folder being shared in samba smb.conf so that it is writable by selected IP's similar to host allow, but read only for other IP's?
[02:06] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: Unless you bought a dedicated RAID card that obviates the IDE/SATA bus, the kind that costs several hundred dollars, you're not going to get performance benefits.
[02:06] <ubuntu> still doesnt make sense why after I bump it, it fails to boot, and when I get mount in from a live cd, my home folder in /home is completely gone..
[02:06] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Can you pastebin /media/sda1/etc/fstab ?
[02:06] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1943871
[02:07] <PiliStorm> soft raid performence better than fake raid?
[02:07] <PiliStorm> why?
[02:07] <hmw> jfullernz: I don't know, but I'd look into user/group stuff
[02:07] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/sda1/home/
[02:08] <kaddy> bleh
[02:08] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: After running that command you should be able to see the files from your home directory.
[02:08] <JackStonewall> jfullernz:  not exactly what you're asking for, but perhaps http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/red-hat-31/restrict-samba-access-to-only-certain-lan-ip-addresses-575345/ is a start?
[02:08] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, ls
[02:08] <PiliStorm> I Install two SSD AND fake raid, I need high performence
[02:08] <PiliStorm> any body help me
[02:08] <PiliStorm> thanks
[02:09] <hmw> PiliStorm: soft raid is the same as fake raid - for performance you need a hardware raid
[02:09] <JLaverne> PiliStorm, just google it..
[02:09] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, hey thanks !
[02:09] <kaddy> can anyone see my posts?
[02:09] <JLaverne> kady yes
[02:09] <JLaverne> kaddy
[02:09] <kaddy> ahhh good. lol
[02:09] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, any way of recovering this ?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: You're welcome.
[02:09] <ubuntu> well, the grub on it.
[02:09] <PiliStorm> I read the wiki, but I can't install ubuntu on fakeraid
[02:09] <PiliStorm> i readed wiki
[02:10] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, sorry, any way I can recover the grub for this fs ?
[02:10] <PiliStorm> I NEED Install Ubuntu on fakeraid, but not softraid
[02:10] <tensorpudding> PiliStorm: why do you need it on fakeraid?
[02:10] <bazhang> PiliStorm, you've been given the answer please dont repeat
[02:10] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: I'm sure grub can be recovered.
[02:11] <PiliStorm> high performence, i belive ichr10 do something here
[02:11] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, ok. The exact error I am getting is grub error 15
[02:11] <PiliStorm> i belive hardware better than soft
[02:11] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[02:11] <bazhang> PiliStorm, yes, and that's not correct. fakeraid is not hardware
[02:12] <JLaverne> PiliStorm, fake raid is not hardware, thats why its called FAKE raid
[02:12] <PiliStorm> i belive ichr10 do something here
[02:12] <bazhang> PiliStorm, please dont repeat
[02:12] <SoulShadow> i lul'd
[02:12] <PiliStorm> yessir
[02:12] <ciaoBO> i
[02:13] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1943874
[02:14] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, the grub that is on /dev/sdc shouldn't be there I don't think
[02:14] <ubuntu> that hd is for storage only
[02:15] <Kevin`> can someone here please paste ubuntu's kvm/qemu ifup script?
[02:15] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, I remember when I installed Ubuntu to this computer, I had to unplug all my HD's except the one I was installing to because grub would get screwed up for some reason..
[02:16] <Lxndr> Websites visited on Firefox do not give me any sound. Same websites visited in Chrome DO give me sound. How can I make firefox give me sound?
[02:16] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Correct, that's the drive you're currently booting from. If you change the boot order to boot from sda it should boot fine.
[02:16] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, ok where do I change that ?
[02:17] <Lxndr> Websites visited on Firefox do not give me any sound. Same websites visited in Chrome DO give me sound. How can I make firefox give me sound?
[02:17] <trakinas> Lxndr: dont repeat yourself.
[02:17] <snake__> how can i install brother MFC 240C Drivers? It is not in the list of pre-sets, and i am having a VERY hard time.
[02:17] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: It's slightly differnet for each computer. Generally at boot you'll see a message (it may go by pretty fast) saying something like "Press F2 to enter setup".
[02:17] <Viking667> Lxndr: checked that the flash plugin is installed for Firefox?
[02:17] <ubuntu> ubuntu, oh you mean in BIOS
[02:18] <JackStonewall> Anyone know of a way to force the Network Manager Applet to always force itself to disable the "Enable networking" right-click option at boot/re-wake from sleep?  I've found a klugey work-around but it doesn't survive a sleep re-wake.
[02:18] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Yes.
[02:18] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, thats not a /boot thing or something in the grub settings I should be changing ?
[02:18] <uLinux> how can I check the folders that an application uses?
[02:18] <Mathuin> My iPod shuffle (first edition, the pack-of-gum kind) is suddenly no longer visible to Banshee.  I can see it in 'lsusb'.  Is there a way to rebuild the database on the iPod from the command line?
[02:18] <trakinas> uLinux: if I got your question, whereis application
[02:19] <Viking667> JackStonewall: what sort of "sleep"? As in, laptop-shut-lid sleep (suspend to ram with power still running) or hibernate (state saved on hard drive, then restored to memory on powerup)
[02:19] <Lxndr> Viking667: The flash plug-in is installed.
[02:19] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Nope, the only problem you currently are having is that you have an old broken grub install on sdc, and for whatever reason your BIOS has started booting sdc instead of sda.
[02:19] <uLinux> trakinas: it's Totem Movie player
[02:19] <trakinas> check your pm
[02:19] <uLinux> im trying to find it's folder
[02:19] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, yes thats because sdc is Sata, and sda is ide
[02:19] <ubuntu> it wants to boot from the sata first
[02:19] <Mathuin> uLinux: I have had some success in opening the package manager, selecting the package in question, and looking at the installed files in properties.
[02:19] <JackStonewall> Viking, haven't tested the hibernation, but would suspect that that would clobber my solution and re-enable the networking too.
[02:20] <ubuntu> is there a way to remove the grub from sdc Jordan_U  ?
[02:20] <RunningAim> hello..i have installed the latest ubuntu server and i have installed gnome.first question is whether i can make the system work as a domain so windows users can connect to it...and second question is whether i can resize my hard drive which is lvm.
[02:20] <snake__> i need to install my printer, its a brother mfc-240c and the deb binary file didn't do anything...
[02:20] <uLinux> Mathuin: yeah man that works
[02:20] <uLinux> tks
[02:20] <Lxndr> Viking667: It's a version "9.0 r124". Is that the one I should have?
[02:20] <Mathuin> uLinux: no problem, glad I could help!
[02:20] <trakinas> snake__: pastebin the errors you got.
[02:21] <snake__> trakinas, no error occured, i just can't print.
[02:21] <uLinux> Mathuin: like trakinas told me 'whereis app' also works fine
[02:21] <trakinas> i see... canr help much. kinda busy. sorry
[02:21] <Viking667> Lxndr: hm. I thought flash was up to 10 now? 10.1.x.y?
[02:22] <Mathuin> uLinux: neat!  the last time I used that command -- a loooong time ago -- it wasn't as cool. :-)
[02:22] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, I was thinking if I remove grub from sdc it should fix it no ?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Correct.
[02:22] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, do you know what file I need to edit to fix this ?
[02:23] <ranthi> for ubuntu is xfce the lightest yet decently user friendly window manager?
[02:23] <snake__> so is there a special ubuntu room for printers?
[02:23] <ubuntu> snake__, cups ?
[02:23] <ubuntu> #cups
[02:24] <Lxndr> Viking667: If you have any suggestions as to how to get from 9.0 r124 to 10, I'll take them. Whenever I go to download, I seem to get the same version.
[02:24] <avis> stumbleupon is acting out http://www.dailyacid.com/2010/09/youve-gotermail.html  http://cdn.davesdaily.com/pictures/302-fukitol.jpg    thats what they said a long time ago    http://throwourlivesawayforonehappyday.us/  and the Austin Statesman wants to publish my story, i guess it was my imagination that they had assigned to me a girlfriend for the poop you see there in my stumbleupon profiles
[02:24] <Mathuin> Okay, if anyone has any ideas on fixing the iPod, let me know. :-)  AFK for a bit for domestic bliss.
[02:24] <RandBrittain> Grrr. No matter what I do, and using three different thumb drives, the startup disk creator just gives me a 'boot error.' Why is this happening?
[02:24] <bazhang> avis, ?
[02:24] <avis> my girlfriend, gone
[02:25] <bazhang> avis, offtopic for here
[02:25] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst on /media/sda1
[02:25] <ipnoid> Does anyone know if it's possible to add launchers to the right click menu?
[02:26] <RandBrittain> Googling seemed to have suggest I needed to eject the thumb drive first, but doing that didn't help.
[02:27] <dassouki> is there a way to make gnome toolbars smaller for netbooks
[02:27] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, and I don't have a /media/sda1/boot/grub/grub.conf either
[02:27] <Niglop> does anybody know why when i edit /etc/bash.bashrc it changes back to what it was?
[02:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: The relavant code is stored in the first 466 bytes of the disk, not in any filesystem.
[02:27] <dassouki> although it's small, it is still really large
[02:27] <RandBrittain> Which is annoying, because it's beginning to look as though I'm going to have to reinstall Ubuntu to get fglrx working agian.
[02:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: The fact that you don't have the corrosponding files is why you get the error 15.
[02:27] <Loshki> ranthi: for other options, see http://lightlinux.blogspot.com/2009/02/lightweight-ubuntu-derivatives-for-old.html
[02:28] <Leman_Russ> Anyone had any luck using Ubuntu to convert from .avi to .mp4 for HTC Desire phone (Android 2.1)
[02:28] <ubuntu> so is there a way to resolve grub from a live cd ?
[02:28] <Lxndr> Viking667: Okay, I think I found a method to try to download version 10. (I went here: https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/ and it tells me where to click to upgrade). But once I click, it downloads and says "already installed!" when trying to install. Any tips on how to stop this cycle?
[02:28] <Viking667> hm. No idea, sorry.
[02:29] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: I've never done it, but I'd try handbrake first...
[02:29] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, I don't get it so that boot info script shows where grub is installed to, even though it isn't installed ?
[02:29] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: This command will zero out the code portion of the mbr, but you should be *VERY* carefull when using dd like this. A single typo could whipe your entire drive. "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=446 count=1"
[02:29] <RandBrittain> Is a LiveUSB supposed to have a /boot folder on it? Would that be why mine isn't working?
[02:29] <Leman_Russ> Loshiki; What is Handbrake?
[02:30] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: It is half installed, the portion stored in the mbr is still there.
[02:30] <CajunTechie> I have to second Handbrake. It's pretty awesome.
[02:30] <CajunTechie> @Jordan: It's a video encoder/recoder
[02:30] <administrator> exit
[02:30] <Loshki> Leman_Russ: handbrake is one of those programs which converts video formats http://handbrake.fr/
[02:30] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1943881
[02:30] <ubuntu> I just copied / pasted your command and ran it
[02:31] <Leman_Russ> Loshki: Thanks, I will have a look
[02:31] <LinuxGuy2009> Can the server CD be used to install a base system?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Ok, if you re-run boot info script you should no longer see grub on sdc, and the bios should skip sdc at boot.
[02:31] <ron_> test
[02:32] <Loshki> LinuxGuy2009: Yes. And you can add a desktop to that server later on if you decide it's necessary....
[02:32] <Mathuin> Handbrake has crashed on a couple of things for me, and it's not in the regular package repositories (or at least if there is one it's really old and you might as well go to nightlies) but other than that it rocks my socks.
[02:32] <Fableflame> Does the Ubuntu LiveUSB often fail? Two computers I've tried to use it on wouldn't load it.
[02:32] <RandBrittain> Fableflame: I can't get the LiveUSB to work either, and I'm making it from inside Ubuntu.
[02:32] <RandBrittain> I keep getting a "boot error" when I try to boot from it.
[02:32] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, you are correct it is now gone !!
[02:33] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, thanks again !
[02:33] <konobi1234> Fableflame: try to set up boot for USB in BIOS
[02:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: You're welcome.
[02:33] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, now to repair the one on /dev/sda
[02:33] <LinuxGuy2009> Loshki: Cool thats what I needed to know. Cause I tried the minimal CD and it requires a network connection and wont work on an offline machine. Will the server CD install the base directly off the CD with no requirement for a network connection so I can use my homemade repo DVD to build the system up from scratch?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: I don't think it needs any repair.
[02:33] <Fableflame> konobi1234, I had THAT part set up. . .
[02:33] <RandBrittain> I've booted from USB before, so I know that isn't the issue on my end either.
[02:34] <ubuntu> ok well I will try it then brb
[02:34] <Fableflame> RandBrittain, same here. I got it to work once. Twice today it just froze while booting. On one computer I just got a black screen after the screen with Ubuntu and the four glowing dots, and the num lock, caps lock, and scroll lock lights were flashing.
[02:34] <jandtd> brb
[02:34] <Fableflame> then on an Acer laptop, it wouldn't do anything after the four dots lit up, it just sat there
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Fableflame: RandBrittain: BIOS's have a lot of odd bugs with booting from USB, if syslinux (used by Ubuntu's startup disk creator and unetbootin) doesn't work you might try installing grub2 and using its loopback feature to boot the Ubuntu iso.
[02:35] <RandBrittain> I just get a 'boot error' message and nothing else, and I've trying making the LiveUSB on three different sticks.
[02:35] <Loshki> LinuxGuy2009: I *think* it will, but I urge you to get a 2nd opinion before you rely on this, 'cos I'm not sure...
[02:35] <RandBrittain> Install grub2 on my computer itself? I might already have that, since I'm running lucid.
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Fableflame: RandBrittain: Doing it with grub2 is unfortunately not automated (yet).
[02:35] <LinuxGuy2009>  Loshki: Ok well Im downloading it with jigdo so Ill find out soon enough. hehe thank you.
[02:35] <uLinux> soon i'll reinstall Ubuntu .. and my question is: if i have 2gb of ram how much swap space should I put during install?
[02:35] <Loshki> LinuxGuy2009: best of luck
[02:36] <jandtd> oh so one ie not banned fronm here as before from ubuntu-ops?
[02:36] <Fableflame> Jordan_U, I was only using it to let my cousin test Ubuntu, I wasn't going to install anything on it. I was trying to "Try without installing"
[02:36] <Jordan_U> Fableflame: I meant install grub2 to the USB drive.
[02:36] <uLinux> i dont want to use 4gb for swap is just too much
[02:36] <Fableflame> Jordan_U, oh, no idea how to do that.
[02:36] <jv__> finally got latest lubuntu on my eeepc and is great
[02:36] <RandBrittain> Jordan_U: How would I install grub2 to a USB drive, then?
[02:36] <brandon420> Movie, Give me a good one.
[02:37] <Fableflame> brandon420, Law Abiding Citizen
[02:37] <brandon420> =/ seen it. lol.
[02:37] <brandon420> about 15 times.
[02:37] <tensorpudding> It's always a good idea to have as much swap as RAM
[02:37] <hmw> uLinux: if you have as much swap as you have RAM, you may suspend to disk, which wont work if you have less swap
[02:37] <tensorpudding> but the 2x rule is probably a waste
[02:37] <uLinux> hmw: ohhh
[02:37] <Jordan_U> RandBrittain: Fableflame: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[02:37] <Fableflame> brandon420, Book of Eli
[02:37] <Mathuin> lubuntu?  Is that the new UNR ?
[02:37] <uLinux> hmw tensorpudding I have 2gb of ram
[02:37] <brandon420> haha, see that too. xD
[02:38] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, if you are going to use "Suspend" feature you need more swap then physical RAM (but i agree 2x is too much these days, my swap is hardly ever touched)
[02:38] <uLinux> but 4gb for swap isnt too much?
[02:38] <brandon420> i have access to any movie everrrmade
[02:38] <jandtd> 1259 users here?
[02:38] <ipnoid> Anyone know how to add launchers to your right click menu?
[02:38] <hmw> uLinux: 4GB sounds like a waste in your case. I'd make sure, that it is a bit more than your RAM
[02:38] <trakinas> uLinux: don't need to follow the 2x memory "rule" if you have more than 1gb
[02:39] <uLinux> so.. 3gb?
[02:39] <jandtd> can all say hello?
[02:39] <hmw> uLinux: I'd make it 2.1GB or so
[02:39] <Fableflame> brandon420, me too, it's called bit torrent
[02:39] <brandon420> Fableflame, called passthepopcorn.
[02:39] <uLinux> currently 0 bytes of 5.6 gb lol
[02:40] <RandBrittain> As another question, if I have 8GB of RAM, and am installing to a solid state drive, and don't plan on hibernating, can I do without any swap?
[02:40] <adalal> hi, my phone indicates that my MyDocs is a read only filesystem .. any reason?
[02:40] <Jordan_U> hmw: Since the hybernation image is compressed you don't really need more swap than physical RAM, though having the same amount is probably a good idea.
[02:40] <uLinux> yeah i also dont hibernate but..
[02:40] <hmw> uLinux: i wrote some ideas on how to partition my boxes on http://<IP_ADDRESS>/www.self-pc.org/guides/ubuntu-linux/install.html
[02:40] <trakinas> I have 2gb and 512 of swap
[02:40] <uLinux> ill check
[02:41] <uLinux> it's just stupid ubuntu automatic installion to use 5.6gb
[02:41] <trakinas> RandBrittain: I think you are obligated to create the swap partition
[02:41] <trakinas> uLinux: i dont do automatic since debian woody
[02:41] <tensorpudding> if you don't have a swap partition, i think you'll get a panic if you exhaust your RAM
[02:42] <uLinux> trakinas: it will be the first time doing it manually im thinking of 12gb for / maybe 2gb for swap and rest for /home what do you think
[02:43] <isolat3sh33p> testing
[02:43] <Jordan_U> trakinas: RandBrittain: That's not correct, the installer will allow you to install without a swap paritition. Though I'd recommend having a little swap just in case a program has a crazy memory leak (though you'll run out of swap eventually too, and the OOM killer is pretty good at killing such programs before anything else).
[02:43] <RandBrittain> I see.
[02:43] <trakinas> uLinux: depends on your use and how much space you have.
[02:43] <hmw> uLinux: sounds fine to me. 12 GB is a lot for Ubuntu.
[02:43] <uLinux> im using +-6gb right now
[02:43] <uLinux> for /
[02:44] <Jordan_U> tensorpudding: What happens is that the OOM killer kicks in and starts killing processes.
[02:44] <ipnoid> Anybody know of any way to add launcher to right click menu?
[02:44] <hmw> uLinux: you can always boot the live cd or flash disk and change partition sizes, if you are unhappy.
[02:44] <trakinas> uLinux: I have 80GB and use 20 for / and 50 for /home. I have a 10gb that I usually use as my temp dvd-ripping directory
[02:44] <uLinux> hmw: but i could get in trouble when resizing :P
[02:45] <trakinas> uLinux: 6 will be too less.
[02:45] <GraphicH> GRUB Problem: I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 as the only operating system, I need access to the GRUB menu in order to add the options pci=nomsi to the boot command list
[02:45] <thune3> ipnoid: a generic one, or for a specific file type?
[02:45] <GraphicH> Any help appreciated
[02:45] <trakinas> mine: /dev/sda3              13G  4.5G  7.4G  38% /
[02:45] <hmw> ipnoid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NautilusScriptsHowto
[02:45] <Kevin`> GraphicH: hold down shift
[02:45] <GraphicH> Kevin`: triedd that no go
[02:45] <anxiolytic> I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.10 to lucid
[02:46] <Jordan_U> GraphicH: Does your keyboard work in the BIOS menus?
[02:46] <iwobbles> hi I accidentally deleted the top pannel which has system chutdown etc and applications in it is there a way to restore it ?
[02:46] <bazhang> anxiolytic, in one step?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> !panelreset | iwobbles
[02:46] <anxiolytic> I rebooted and im stuck at the login window. even after I put in the correct pw, it shows a black screen and then shows the login window again. just loops there.
[02:46] <anxiolytic> bazhang: in 2 steps
[02:46] <GraphicH> Jordan_U yes it does
[02:46] <anxiolytic> bazhang: 9.10 worked fine so the issue occured between 9 -> 10
[02:46] <Jordan_U> GraphicH: And you started holding shift while it was still in POST?
[02:46] <Anom01y> Jordan_U, its me ubuntu,
[02:47] <Anom01y> thanks for the help there
[02:47] <switch10_> GraphicH: it should work.  hold down shift as soon as your machine posts
[02:47] <uLinux> i dont know..
[02:47] <bazhang> anxiolytic, lts to lts is one step you realize
[02:47] <Jordan_U> Anom01y: You're welcome.
[02:47] <Anom01y> Jordan_U, I am back up and running. I was freeked out for a bit there
[02:47] <uLinux> 10gb for / 2 for swap
[02:47] <uLinux> :s
[02:47] <Anom01y> I forgot I put my home folder on another partition
[02:47] <GraphicH> Jordan_U: it does drop straight to busy box, some quirk of my hardware I always have to add the parameter pci=nomsi to the boot line listed in grub
[02:48] <uLinux> and btw i watched some dude doing a partition for boot.. why?
[02:48] <anxiolytic> bazhang: I did it in 2 steps, I know 8.10 to 10 is 1 step, I went from 8.04 to 10
[02:48] <uLinux> for /boot
[02:48] <anxiolytic> bazhang: but I'm in 10 right now so that's irrelevant. I can't really downgrade
[02:48] <iwobbles> mm now all panels are gone lol, even lost the pannell at bottom of screen, ummm,
[02:48] <hmw> GraphicH: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1366354
[02:48] <anxiolytic> bazhang: it seems like others have had the same problem but no solution: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-April/214451.html
[02:48] <Jordan_U> GraphicH: Have you tried holding shift during boot, being sure to start holding shift while the BIOS is still in POST (or even before you hit the power button unless that makes your BIOS complain).
[02:49] <thune3> anxiolytic: sounds like X is crashing, you might login to tty and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and other logs to see what is happening.
[02:49] <GraphicH> hmw: thats nice but I cant get ubuntu to boot until I add this line to the grub loader
[02:50] <anxiolytic> thune3: problem is when I go to a tty the screen is just black. all of them. I can go back to the login screen though
[02:50] <isolat3sh33p> iwobbles, try in terminal « gnome-panel --replace »
[02:50] <hmw> GraphicH: if you boot into your hard disk, do a web search on "grub2 repair after windows" or something... you need a live cd and then you chroot into the file system
[02:50] <hmw> GraphicH: if you _cant_ boot... sorry
[02:50] <GraphicH> hmw: you dont understand, I cannot boot until I add this option
[02:50] <hmw> uhm... can you boot anything linux? live cd?
[02:51] <hmw> GraphicH: ^
[02:51] <thune3> anxiolytic: i don't know, maybe boot with "nomodeset" or "xforcevesa" boot parameters, and if you get to login then upgrade to proprietary drivers.
[02:51] <trakinas> iwobbles: control+alt t then killall gnome-panel
[02:51] <ipnoid> hmw: thanks
[02:52] <Kevin`> GraphicH: you could just boot from the install cd and change grub to have a delay
[02:52] <hmw> GraphicH: can you boot a live cd?
[02:53] <GraphicRecursion> hwm: yes but I always have trouble mounting drives -_- does not appear to be mounting the hddd automatically
[02:53] <uLinux>  trakinas> uLinux: 6 will be too less.
[02:53] <opakavic> GraphicH, you please listen to hmw
[02:53] <uLinux> for / right
[02:53] <Jordan_U> GraphicH: Have you tried holding shift during boot, being sure to start holding shift while the BIOS is still in POST? (or you can even start holding shift before you hit the power button, unless that makes your BIOS complain).
[02:53] <trakinas> uLinux: yes.
[02:53] <GraphicRecursion> Jordan_U: yes
[02:54] <trakinas> Im already using 4.5 and I don't have that much of apps installed
[02:54] <uLinux> trakinas: so you said 12gb is too much and 6 is too less lol..
[02:54] <TheoryDesigns> hello i just installed ubuntu studio
[02:54] <TheoryDesigns> x64 edition
[02:54] <trakinas> uLinux: i didnt said 12 was too much
[02:54] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: are you GraphicH? It is normal, that your hds are not automounted from the live cd. You need to sudo mount /dev/sdwhatever /mnt   for example
[02:54] <uLinux> trakinas: sry it was hmw
[02:54] <trakinas> uLinux: I think it was someone else. and he/she said it is enough, not too little/much. =P
[02:54] <Kevin`> uLinux: you could always use lvm, you can resize filesystems online then
[02:55] <uLinux> i have 1TB hdd
[02:55] <lintin> hey all
[02:55] <hmw> !hi | lintin
[02:55] <groken> i'm having trouble with vsftpd and ubuntu 10.10. when i set ssl_enable=YES and then sudo service vsftpd restart, the process dies. i can't find any info about this in the logs besides the process trying to restart
[02:55] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: alright, this has always been a problem with this machine, but before it was just easy to edit the boot image commands in grub, Ill try the live cd and mounting that drive
[02:56] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: if you need it, i can dig up the torrent for Ubuntu 9.04 - it had grub1 if i remember correctly
[02:56] <trakinas> uLinux: okay. I'd use 15 / , 1gb /swap/   rest /home/   -- anyone agree?
[02:56] <lintin> yea i just built a new crazy server/workstation, having problems burning with k3b and mounting the drive
[02:56] <uLinux> trakinas: no one :P
[02:57] <Kevin`> trakinas: I wouldn't personally use that layout, but it's somewhat sane
[02:57] <uLinux> 2gb ram 1gb swap
[02:57] <thune3> uLinux: trakinas : with 1TB, i don't see reason to skimp on /, expecially if /tmp is there, since some applications store large things in /tmp. I'd got 20-30GB for / , if I had 1TB.
[02:57] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: I was thinking about it but Id like to use 10. Ive always had this problem with this machine, do you know what the argument pci=nomsi actually does?
[02:57] <hmw> trakinas: uLinux: Kevin`: as stated, having a swap as large as the RAM allows for suspent-to-disk. 1GB swap is totally cool imo.
[02:57] <lintin> i personally dedicate 1tb drive to ubuntu (fle server)  and another drive is raided
[02:57] <uLinux> thune3: well i had 30gb for windows
[02:58] <uLinux> lol
[02:58] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: no idea... i'll do a quick web search, perhaps i find out
[02:58] <Jordan_U> uLinux: trakinas: Now that Ubuntu's installer is smart enough to allow you to preserve your /home (via manual partitioning) without having a separate partition, it doesn't make much sense to make /home separate.
[02:58] <Kevin`> use the lvm. you like the lvm
[02:58] <akm> can any one please send me how to install ubuntu...step by step installation
[02:58] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: its always been a weird magic word for me but I gathered that it has something to do with actually powering on the disk or energy saving power options or something
[02:58] <trakinas> Jordan_U: i see.
[02:59] <lintin> ummmmm its easy
[02:59] <lintin> use guided partition (whole drive)
[02:59] <lintin> then install
[02:59] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=120710
[02:59] <lintin> its gotten so easy
[02:59] <thune3> Jordan_U: you have any links about preserving /home during upgrades on a unified partition?
[02:59] <uLinux> Jordan_U: i dont know but ppl use separate partition for home because then they can change distro or reinstall
[02:59] <Jordan_U> akm: Do you want to dual boot?
[02:59] <akm> no
[03:00] <akm> no Jordan
[03:00] <akm> only singe os want
[03:00] <Name141> Is it possible, from default, to install Ubuntu with min stuff for older machines? No GUI, etc?
[03:00] <hmw> thune3: I usually stop gdm from a console and make a backup tar of /home - this needs a password for root though :(
[03:00] <hmw> thune3: you could do it from a live cd
[03:01] <Jordan_U> akm: Do you already have an Ubuntu CD? And do you know how to boot from CD?
[03:01] <bazhang> !manual | akm please read
[03:01] <akm> I have ubuntu cd and knows to boot..but i dont know step by step installaion
[03:01] <Name141> Or will I have to remove everything I don't want myself?
[03:01] <trakinas> Name141: i *think* there is an option on the menu
[03:02] <bazhang> akm, please look at that manual. many pictures and explanations
[03:02] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: interesting Ive wondered if there was a bios setting for this, its def something to do with the board
[03:02] <lintin> yes, very easy to install
[03:02] <Kevin`> akm: there are instructions on the screen. unless you can't see, it should be pretty easy even without seperate instructions
[03:02] <Name141> trakinas: Should I look for it during the install
[03:02] <thune3> hmw: Jordan_U indicated that an install could take place on unified /+/home without clobbering /home. I'd like more info on this.
[03:02] <hmw> akm: if your hard disk does not contain important data, just start the install from the live cd and read the instructions - it is quite self-explanatory
[03:02] <yuecaijie> yes?
[03:02] <JoeSomebody> hi, my friends canon printer has no linux drivers on the website, sol? or is there a workaround?
[03:02] <trakinas> Name141: when you boot you can choose different kinds of instalation, I believe
[03:02] <Name141> trakinas: Ok, I'll turn it on and see what happens
[03:03] <yuecaijie> how can use the commend?
[03:03] <trakinas> JoeSomebody: aptitude install cups, but look on their page first
[03:03] <akm> I have different partitions
[03:03] <trakinas> !cups | JoeSomebody
[03:03] <ouyes> morning all, is there a lan chat tool?
[03:03] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org says what about that JoeSomebody
[03:03] <Name141> trakinas: it's an old pentium 2 with 10GB hard drive.. I thought it'd be worth using for something atleast
[03:03] <JoeSomebody> thanks :)
[03:03] <shugart> okay, I'm really hitting the wall here, I cannot get ubuntu to partition any of my harddrives from installation
[03:03] <tensorpudding> ouyes: you can use bonjour for chatting
[03:04] <Jordan_U> shugart: What happens when you try?
[03:04] <trakinas> Name141: Id go with debian or even gentoo and custom it myself during install. but I like to suffer.
[03:04] <trakinas> kidding. I dont.
[03:04] <Kevin`> it's possible to use jabber on a lan, right?
[03:04] <hmw> shugart: what problem do you encounter exactly? any error message perhaps?
[03:04] <shugart> Jordan_U: I just get a hung load, 5% on the desktop version, 33% on server
[03:04] <shugart> did memtest, came back clean
[03:04] <yuecaijie> I can't use the dasktop
[03:04] <trakinas> Kevin`: you mean as a "private im"?
[03:04] <Name141> trakinas: I liked debian 'ok'
[03:04] <shugart> tried 4 different drives
[03:05] <Name141> trakinas: but I had to hunt and search around to figure out where to get the debs
[03:05] <shugart> 3 different downloads, 5 different cd-r's
[03:05] <hmw> shugart: did you check the CD integrity? get the hash sum and verify the CD
[03:05] <uLinux> btw.. before I reinstall Ubuntu I will delete the current partitions.. so i go to live cd .. gparted and just delete all the partitions?
[03:05] <yuecaijie> yes
[03:05] <Kevin`> shugart: is there anything in the kernel log?
[03:05] <trakinas> Kevin`: we have a jabber server where I work, so I say it is possible
[03:05] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: got the live cd up but I dont think my drive is in dev
[03:05] <hmw> uLinux: if you partition manually, you can manage the partitions in the install procedure right away
[03:05] <shugart> hmw: yep, md5 is clean
[03:05] <shugart> Kevin`: nope
[03:05] <yuecaijie> NO , I can't find
[03:06] <Kevin`> shugart: I mean, after the problem occurs
[03:06] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: try sudo fdisk -l  and sudo blkid
[03:06] <tensorpudding> ouyes: I think bonjour is listed as "People Nearby" in empathy
[03:06] <trakinas> Name141: I usually do "aptitude search **** " before looking for them =P
[03:06] <ouyes> tensorpudding, it is gui based or text based and where can I find its source code
[03:06] <yuecaijie> ok ,I try
[03:06] <shugart> Kevin`: where would I find that from the live cd ?
[03:06] <Kevin`> shugart: open a terminal and run dmesg
[03:06] <wisna> tes
[03:06] <shugart> Kevin`: I've got server on in it right now
[03:06] <tensorpudding> ouyes: bonjour is the name apple uses for the zeroconf protocol
[03:06] <tensorpudding> ouyes: empathy is the im client that comes with ubuntu desktop
[03:07] <Kevin`> shugart: alt+f2 (or 3 or 4, I forget) has a terminal
[03:07] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: fdisk list nothing and blkid lists /dev/loop0 thats all
[03:07] <uLinux> hmw: so I delete all the partitions and then it only shows dev/sda right?
[03:08] <kiv> hey is their a keyboard shortcut for ejecting the cdrom tray?
[03:08] <tensorpudding> ouyes: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy
[03:08] <shugart> Kevin`: last line is "Adding 9781240k swap on /dev/mapper/server-swap_1. PRiority:-1 exnts:1 across: 9781240k "
[03:08] <hmw> uLinux: I usually do manual partitioning, create a roughly 10GB ext3 and assign the mount point "/", then I create a swap and an ext3 /home
[03:08] <shugart> Kevin`: no errors or panics that I can find..
[03:08] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: I think its not seeing the hardware because the boot image is trying to use that MSI option, is there a way to modify to boot line for the live cd? I have 10.04 did not see an option for it
[03:08] <ouyes> tensorpudding, I saw its in my "internet" tools  empathy  but I just need a small and lan based chat tool
[03:08] <Kevin`> shugart: that's actually strange, if you are BEFORE the partitioning step is completed
[03:09] <tensorpudding> ouyes: Bonjour is LAN-based, it requires no servers or accounts
[03:09] <uLinux> hmw: *ext4 /home?
[03:09] <shugart> Kevin`: yeah, this is the first time this has ever happened, 10.04 had no problems on an identical system, 10.04.1 has the hang
[03:09] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:09] <tensorpudding> ouyes: and there are other clients which support it besides empathy
[03:09] <hmw> uLinux: as you wish... ext3 is just my stupid habbit
[03:10] <Kevin`> shugart: wipe the partition table on the drive and start the installer over (unless you need something on it)
[03:10] <Jordan_U> GraphicRecursion: You need to press a key within the first 5 seconds of boot to get the boot menu on the LiveCD.
[03:10] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: seems theyved changed it in 10 though Im sure they have this option somewhere
[03:10] <Name141> trakinas: sorry, I meant the actual mirrors and places
[03:10] <shugart> Kevin`: I've tried that twice. used ultimate boot disk to wipe it last time
[03:11] <ouyes> tensorpudding, yes I see thank you
[03:11] <zt> I resized my partition with GParted but the computer shutdown on the "copying ..." part, is it possible to recover at least certain folders with testdisk?
[03:11] <shugart> Kevin`: when I tried the desktop version, I kept getting a "device in use" type error from gparted even though /dev/sda1 was never mounted
[03:11] <Kevin`> shugart: there has to be something on it now, or it wouldn't be giving that message (indicating there are partitions, and lvm, and at least one of them formatted as swap space)
[03:11] <trakinas> Name141: np. I was just mockering. sometimes my source.list has more unofficial mirrors than officials.
[03:12] <Kevin`> shugart: if it's doing the same thing, take it out of use: swapoff -a; vgchange -an
[03:12] <shugart> Kevin`: " Can't deactivate volume group "server" with 2 open logical volume(s) "
[03:12] <akm> how to install yahoo messenger 10 on ubuntu ?
[03:13] <Kevin`> shugart: check if any of them are mounted
[03:13] <GraphicRecursion> akm: get pidgin
[03:13] <Name141> trakinas: I didn't find a place to select min or anything at all.  Just 'forward forward.. forward.. type in user.. install"
[03:13] <bazhang> akm, try pidgin as a substitute
[03:13] <Kevin`> shugart: the drive is obviously not wiped, though
 but it does not support video calling
[03:13] <akm> and voice calling na???
[03:14] <trakinas> Name141: when you boot. you can choose what kind of boot. I think there is an option there
[03:14] <GraphicRecursion> akm: yes that is a big problem with pidgin
[03:14] <Name141> trakinas: well I was more looking to save on disk space..
[03:14] <GraphicRecursion> akm: Im not sure but theres a client called digsby it may have a linux distro
[03:14] <trakinas> if ubuntu had/have dpkg, have fun. =P
[03:14] <shugart> Kevin`: fdisk -l lists an sda1 "linux" sda2 "extended" and sda3 "linux vm"
[03:14] <mgolisch> who cares? use something thats available on all major platforms, like skype if you need voice/video calls
[03:14] <ouyes> tensorpudding, actually I want to find a lan chat tool under linux and it is small(based on text) and open source ,so that I can read the code and learn
[03:15] <trakinas> or dpkg-select.... cant remember its name.... only that you could select each of the packages you wanted to
[03:15] <GraphicRecursion> akm: digsby supports video chat on the popular protocols and is not a bad application to boot
[03:15] <shugart> Kevin`: I can't forcibly umount /dev/sda
[03:15] <Kevin`> shugart: what's mounted right now?
[03:15] <Name141> trakinas: then use SSH / sftp or Samba
[03:16] <synackfin> how "safe" is the ubuntu installer? (i.e. if I _don't_ want to change existing partition tables -- I have valuable data on certain non-ubunut partitions)
[03:16] <Name141> trakinas: seeing as it is 10GBs just sitting around doing nothing
[03:16] <mgolisch> synackfin: if you dont trust it use debbootstrap and a live distribution of your choice to install ubuntu
[03:17] <hmw> synackfin: dont use the automatic partitioning - if you do it manually, be careful and double check everything.
[03:17] <mgolisch> but its usualy ok, never destroyed anything for me
[03:17] <anxiolytic> I installed Lynx and rebooted and im stuck at the login window. even after I put in the correct pw, it shows a black screen and then shows the login window again. just loops there.
[03:17] <shugart> Kevin`: I'm just seeing /dev/sda mounted after running fdisk -l
[03:17] <Jordan_U> synackfin: It's very safe, especially if you have free space to install to so that it doesn't need to resize anything.
[03:17] <boole> or backup your data first, synackfin
[03:17] <Kevin`> shugart: fdisk -l doesn't show what's mounted, mount does
[03:17] <synackfin> boole: unfortunately it's too much data to back up :(  12TB
[03:18] <akm> how to swap and root file during installation?
[03:18] <synackfin> mgolisch: I look into debboostrap, thanks
[03:18] <Jordan_U> akm: Just use the automatic partitioning.
[03:18] <trojan_spike> anxiolytic, insure its the right password that u put in.. and if u reinstall,, be sure to check the auto log in ..
[03:18] <Niglop> visit somethingawful.com (this is the site 4chan derived from)
[03:18] <Kevin`> btw, I really wish the ubuntu installer had an option THAT WORKED to not use framebuffer
[03:19] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: hold down the shift key while booting, for the GRUB2 menu. Select the entry you want to boot and press "e" and edit the boot line (starting with linux...)
[03:19] <anxiolytic> trojan_spike: auto login should be enabled. It was in 8 before I updated
[03:19] <anxiolytic> trojan_spike: pass is definitely correct
[03:19] <hmw> Kevin`: you are not allone with that wish
[03:19] <trojan_spike> so it was after an update that u couldnt get in??
[03:20] <synackfin> mgolisch: nice, I'm reading about debbootstrap and it's exactly what I'm looking for
[03:20] <shugart> Kevin`: just /dev/sr0 on /cdrom and the regular, /proc, /sys, /dev /dev/pts
[03:20] <dannyming> Hello!
[03:20] <trojan_spike> hello dannyming
[03:20] <Licuadora> Hello, ppl
[03:21] <Kevin`> shugart: wipe the beginning of the drive (assuming it's not using gpt, it doesn't seem to be) with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M count=10 and press the reset button
[03:21] <Licuadora> Is there a way to copy the whole OS with all my stuff to another HDD?
[03:21] <shugart> Kevin`: wait, okay, this just got weird, I just flipped back to dmesg, and now it's finishing the ext4 partition
[03:21] <Kevin`> shugart: knowing, of course, that the intent of this is data loss
[03:21] <hmw> Licuadora: dd if=/dev/THESOURCEDISK of=/dev/theNEWdisk ... make sure partitions have the same size
[03:21] <trojan_spike> anxiolytic, if there is an alternative linux kernel in loading.. u should us that.. then check forum about that update..
[03:22] <Kevin`> you aren't doing something silly like making a 10tb ext4 partition are you?
[03:22] <shugart> Kevin`: it started up after I ran "mount -a"
[03:22] <Licuadora> I because I want to install Ubuntu in my brother's HDD, but with a liveCD I am gonna have to upgrade once ii installed
[03:22] <hmw> Licuadora: assuming you copy individual partitions
[03:22] <Licuadora> I He does not have internet there
[03:22] <Licuadora> hmw: Well, i am gonna use the whole HDD
[03:23] <hmw> Licuadora: you could also use "partimage" (i use the flash disk with the persistent file system and have partimage installed for such things) and copy the image file to an USB hd
[03:23] <Licuadora> partimage, eh?
[03:23] <Kevin`> shugart: why would you run mount -a during the installer?
[03:23] <enbloc> Should blkid include a trailing \r when it returns a volume label?
[03:23] <hmw> partimage rocks
[03:23] <uLinux> hmw: you use ext3 and i watch ext3 on videos too.. so why do i see ext4 in my /dev/sda5
[03:23] <uLinux> ?
[03:23] <synackfin> what's the difference between 10.04 Desktop and 10.04 Server?
[03:24] <Kevin`> synackfin: default packages installed
[03:24] <hmw> uLinux: uhm, what?
[03:24] <shugart> Kevin`: I actually didn't mean to, I fat fingered it
[03:24] <uLinux> hmw: when you are partitionning (wathever) you should ext3
[03:24] <uLinux> choose
[03:24] <step21> uLinux: because it's a newer version probably, so it uses ext4
[03:24] <uLinux> 10.04
[03:24] <Kevin`> mount would normally show messages like this, btw
[03:24] <Kevin`> [ 1597.317468] EXT3-fs (sdc): using internal journal
[03:24] <Kevin`> [ 1597.317474] EXT3-fs (sdc): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[03:24] <anxiolytic> when I try to boot into single user mode, I get a black screen with "gibberish" on top, as if my graphics card has a problem. The hardware is fine though
[03:25] <anxiolytic> this happened after updating from 8 to 10
[03:25] <Kevin`> another vitcim of defaulting to fb mode ^
[03:25] <Kevin`> ;)
[03:26] <hmw> uLinux: you wonder, why your freshly formatted disk hase ext4? you didnt partition manually, it seems
[03:26] <Kevin`> anxiolytic: it probably won't happen if you boot with init=/bin/sh, although you will of course have limited resources available at the start
[03:26] <shugart> Kevin`: yeah, this is what I deserve for lazily coming in on a saturday night to do work
[03:26] <Lxndr> Websites visited on Firefox do not give me any sound. Same websites visited in Chrome DO give me sound. How can I make firefox give me sound? What troubleshooting can I do?
[03:26] <omniel> Does anyone know how to fix an upside down webcam?  I have searched the forums and couldn't find a solution.
[03:26] <GraphicRecursion> ahhh hmw: finally got a shell ^_^ whats the text editor in busy box? is there one?
[03:26] <anxiolytic> Kevin`: alright, trying
[03:26] <PiliStorm> join ubuntu
[03:27] <uLinux> hmw: i installed automatically
[03:27] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: uhm, i am not good for busybox questions really. try vi, nano, pico
[03:27] <uLinux> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0d82mvYQjM why this guy makes a /data partition
[03:27] <uLinux> and not for /home
[03:27] <mgolisch> no idea? maybe to store data?
[03:27] <uLinux> yeah but data is stores at /home
[03:27] <Kevin`> uLinux: because he's not you. I personally usually have a seperate /files partition (well, volume)
[03:28] <hmw> uLinux: My home has many hidden directories. I don't like programs to mess with my own data. I really want _my own "home"_ therefore i use another partition for the files, that are really mine and not just some settings from programs
[03:28] <mgolisch> i do the same for data shared between all users
[03:28] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: they got nano! yeah getting the busy box shell is fine with me I just needed to make sure that option got added to the boot parameters or else my HDD gets powered off
[03:28] <hmw> uLinux: my "collection" partition is NTFS for obvious reasons, btw. (multiboot)
[03:29] <flowbee___a> is there a way to easily see all the vidoes i downloaded (other than the file system)
[03:30] <uLinux> hmw: so if i wanted to install one more OS i would resize my /home to have space
[03:30] <cloversg> I would like to install ubuntu-server on a flash-drive, can anyone point me to any site that does this, specifically, would like minimal writes to the drive except for configs
[03:30] <uLinux> but you use your "collection"
[03:30] <uLinux> :p
[03:31] <Rixxy> Hey guys, does anybody here know much about Miro?
[03:31] <trojan_spike> g-part / disk utility not able to resize NTFS??
[03:31] <Merritt> Updates seem to have frozen setting up a new kernel. Can anyone tell me the safe way to deal with this? Just kill it and restart updates, or..? http://picpaste.com/pics/update-fail-iBPioYNV.1284845951.png Thanks!
[03:31] <uLinux> so for /home is primary partition for swap is logical
[03:32] <GraphicRecursion> hmw: whats the mount command?
[03:32] <IdleOne> Merritt: how long has it been sitting?
[03:32] <anxiolytic> Kevin`: init=/bin/sh gives me a black screen, no kb response
[03:32] <mgolisch> trojan_spike: gparted should be able to do it
[03:32] <Merritt> IdleOne: 14 hours now
[03:32] <uLinux> and /home is logical?
[03:32] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: mount <device> <mount point> --- e.g.  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:32] <IdleOne> Merritt: haha, yeah kill it
[03:32] <trojan_spike> nah,, ive tried :(
[03:32] <Merritt> IdleOne: Then apt-get update apt-get upgrade?
[03:32] <Camus> I have an NTFS usb hard drive and one particular directory will not open (Input/output error). Is there a way to retrieve the files from this directory (which appears from the ls command)
[03:32] <IdleOne> Merritt: yup.
[03:33] <Merritt> IdleOne: Thanks :)
[03:33] <trojan_spike> Merritt, thats installing.. it might need some user input
[03:33] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: you should find a tutorial on how to repair GRUB2 - you will have to edit a file and then run update-grub to let it create the boot menu entries with your new kernel parameter
[03:33] <Merritt> trojan_spike: Can't find a window asking for anything
[03:33] <Coronade> :D
[03:33] <uLinux> hmw: some ppl use logical other use primary.. im confused as hell
[03:33] <Coronade> Good evening.
[03:33] <uLinux> ei Coronade
[03:34] <trojan_spike> kk,, then jus close and run again.. dont reboot until updates tho
[03:34] <mgolisch> uLinux: logical partitions are used if you need more than 4 partitions
[03:34] <Coronade> \o/
[03:34] <Rixxy> Is it possible to add youtube subscriptions to Miro?
[03:34] <IdleOne> trojan_spike: from the pic he posted it looks stuck at unpacking
[03:34] <Coronade> AAArrrghhhh ok i have to re-burn Ubuntu..
[03:34] <Coronade> Don't ask, it's embarassing why.
[03:34] <hmw> uLinux: there are only 4 primary partitions. If you never need more than that, it is ok to make all primary. But, if you then decide to add a 5th partition, you'd need to DELETE one in order to create extended partitions. Using extended partitions from the beginning is the safe approach.
[03:34] <avis> I am privately sharing with you a url that I was hoping you could look over.  I have been corresponding with the Governor of California and the Whitehouse regarding this issue.  It breaks my heart but every attorney I have ever seen has had little good to say, and was unwilling to take my case, which I find inconceivable.
[03:34] <avis> If you were to know the anger and outrage that they caused me it manifested itself in a very twisted and disheartening way.  My spirits are well and positive my health is good but I am angry that they would turn their back on me, I'm angry that I was intimidated into destroying evidence which I actually have, it is further disheartening that after I was attacked I was treated by law enforcement like trash en route to the doctor, and It was plainl
[03:34] <avis> y apparent to me that the doctor was being bribed, no diagnosis, he didn't even want to give me medication.  It was only by the good hand of Dr. John Hoang that we were able to lasso things under control.
[03:34] <trojan_spike> installing..
[03:34] <Lxndr> When I visit a website and try to make sound in Chrome, in my Sound Preferences (under the Applications tab) I see "ALSA plug-in [chrome]". When I try the same thing in Firefox, I get a flickering entry that says "ALSA plug-in [plugin-container]". I imagine since it flickers, that means the program is TRYING to make sound, but nothing is happening. What can I do  to stop this flickering?
[03:34] <avis> I would like to ask that our communication be through email only as my mother is very sensitive and wouldn't like me speaking to you or another officer at all (again, more fuel to their fire).
[03:34] <avis> the url is here:
[03:34] <FloodBot3> avis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <uLinux> flood detected
[03:35] <hmw> ..."Floodbot munches"
[03:35] <Kevin`> anxiolytic: check if you are able to enter commands anyway. the console could just be poorly set up at this point
[03:36] <Merritt> Hmm, cannot get lock on dpkg, but I can't find the app using it xD
[03:36] <hmw> GraphicRecursion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[03:36] <Coronade> umm
[03:36] <LinuxGuy2009> Does wget support the use of wildcards like *i386.deb? or do I have to specify an exact file name?
[03:36] <Coronade> nero is complaining about my Ubuntu image
[03:37] <Coronade> if you don't remember me, i'm the guy with a fake ubuntu distro on my laptop(craptop)
[03:37] <cloversg> has anyone here run ubuntu-server from a flash-drive with persistent modes?
[03:37] <uLinux> hmw: I deleted Windows partition but then I couldn't resize /home because it was an extended partition or something
[03:37] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: man wget - check the section --no-glob
[03:37] <trojan_spike> Coronade, image-burn / xp CD-burner
[03:37] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: k thank you
[03:37] <Coronade> "The entered block size does not correspond to the image lengths. The block size may be wrong.  Do you want to correct the value or ignore the problem?" Y/N?
[03:37] <Kevin`> LinuxGuy2009: you can use that if you are doing recursive downloading, but http itself doesn't support that.. it's a special use
[03:37] <uLinux> so I'll just make primary partitions and logical partion for swap i guess
[03:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Kevin`: ok
[03:38] <hmw> uLinux: you need to resize the extended partition itself (which is stored as one of the 4 primary partisions) first, then you can resize the "logical volume"
[03:38] <IdleOne> Coronade: correct the block size
[03:38] <mgolisch> or just use lvm..
[03:38] <mgolisch> :)
[03:38] <trojan_spike> Coronade, dout there would be an or in that sentence
[03:39] <uLinux> hmw: check this image pls http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8103/selection001.png
[03:39] <hmw> uLinux: an extended partition is a special "primary" partition, which is made to hold (contain) logical volumes. you probably tried to only resize the LV itself - therefore there was no space in the extended partition
[03:39] <uLinux> thats how it is right now
[03:39] <mgolisch> or use GUID disklabel and forget about all of mbr/dos disklabels limitations
[03:39] <Coronade> I'm confused now.
[03:39] <Coronade> Type of Image: <options are "Data Mode 1" "Data Mode 2", audio
[03:39] <hmw> uLinux: as i said, first change sda2
[03:39] <anxiolytic> I can't get into X. the log seems OK. I'm in a root shell using an old recovery kernel. not sure what to do..
[03:39] <Coronade> and a check box for "raw data"
[03:40] <Kevin`> uLinux: i'd use lvm in either case, and guid for a non-windows system (windows supports it, but i'm not sure how well)
[03:41] <uLinux> after i delete NTFS http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/189/selection001lq.png
[03:41] <Coronade> Uhhh
[03:41] <Coronade> I can't burn this image on to a DVD+R ?
[03:42] <uLinux> Kevin`: i never did this stuff before
[03:42] <trojan_spike> How do i go about getting an image of my set up now,, for re-installing??
[03:42] <uLinux> but if I could fix it without reinstalling again would be great
[03:42] <hmw> uLinux: it is a good idea to plan ahead, when it comes to partitioning. Perhaps you want to re-do the install.
[03:42] <juk> hi, if I i put my script in /etc/init.d/, as system up, will it get `start` arg
[03:42] <uLinux> hmw: it's better i think
[03:43] <Merritt> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? --- anyone tell me how to figure out which app is the culprit? ps x didn't enlighten me.
[03:43] <hmw> uLinux: i hope you are not trying to change partitions while you are using them (=have booted from them)?
[03:43] <uLinux> first i need to do backups
[03:43] <hmw> uLinux: thats always true.
[03:43] <Flannel> Merritt: Are you using sudo to run that command?
[03:43] <uLinux> no hmw i took tthose screenshots using livecd
[03:43] <chelz> uLinux: resize /dev/sda5 so it's really small, then copy it out of the extended partition
[03:43] <chelz> actually, just delete swap and remake it
[03:44] <hmw> uLinux: then you should be able to achieve your goal. You cannot make the logical volume bigger than the extended partition, where it resides in. got it?
[03:44] <Merritt> Flannel: yeah
[03:44] <Kevin`> btw, the ubuntu (and probably debian) installer seems to have a bug if you tell it to format a full disk, it stalls because of the "Proceed anyway? (y,n)" message
[03:44] <Merritt> er, no
[03:44] <Merritt> not ps x
[03:44] <Kevin`> only for some disk types, of course
[03:44] <uLinux> chelz: i hace data on sda5
[03:44] <Lxndr> When I visit a website and try to make sound in Chrome, in my Sound Preferences (under the Applications tab) I see "ALSA plug-in [chrome]". When I try the same thing in Firefox, I get a flickering entry that says "ALSA plug-in [plugin-container]". I imagine since it flickers, that means the program is TRYING to make sound, but nothing is happening. What can I do  to stop this flickering and get sound?
[03:44] <uLinux> have
[03:45] <chelz> Kevin`: it would be good to confirm if that's a bug or not
[03:45] <rww> Merritt: sudo cat /var/lib/dpkg/lock should give you the PID of the process that set the lock, I think
[03:45] <uLinux> i cant resize it
[03:45] <Kevin`> chelz: it doesn't show the message on the screen anywhere, it just hangs at "creating filesystem"
[03:45] <chelz> Kevin`: sure it's not still working?

[03:45] <Merritt> rww: nope
[03:45] <hmw> uLinux: theoretically you should be able to resize, but you could copy the data to the NTFS partition perhaps?
[03:45] <Flannel> Merritt: Alright.  Some things to look for in ps aux are: update-manager, synaptic, dpkg, apt (this will cover aptitude, apt-get, etc), software (for software-center)
[03:45] <Coronade> I might as well start working for the Ubuntu people.
[03:45] <Kevin`> chelz: it's waiting for the user to say y/n, but they can't, because it's being done by a script, not the user
[03:46] <uLinux> hmw: I have hundreds of gb in data
[03:46] <chelz> uLinux: you see the yellow portion of the disk? that's the amount of the partition that's full of data. you can resize it to the point where the entire partition is just about yellow
[03:46] <uLinux> no chance
[03:46] <jason> nick jfullernz
[03:46] <Coronade> I can code  for beer.
[03:46] <synackfin> what arguments do I need for `deboostrap` to install 10.04 Server?
[03:46] <jfullernz> lol sorry
[03:46] <hmw> uLinux: oops.
[03:46] <Kevin`> chelz: I left it for quite a while, there's no cpu or io load. same command manually gives that.
[03:46] <hmw> uLinux: i thought you were using a fresh disk, btw. Resizing will take a long time with 800GB
[03:46] <uLinux> yeah
[03:46] <chelz> Kevin`: huh, that might be a bug
[03:47] <Coronade> pheh, you think the ubuntu ppl wouldn't hire meh?
[03:47] <uLinux> hmw: what im planning is to do backup of all the data, and then reinstall everything BUt correctly using manual partitioning
[03:47] <rww> Coronade: I'm sure #ubuntu-offtopic would be more inclined to tell you.
[03:47] <hmw> uLinux: your sda5 is not full. you could shrink it in order to make space
[03:47] <chelz> uLinux: you can do guided partitioning, just say "use entire disk"
[03:47] <Coronade> ubuntu CD 96%
[03:48] <chelz> uLinux: you really don't have toe reinstall though, you can just copy your partitions around
[03:48] <hmw> uLinux: better do a backup and make a clean install :))
[03:48] <uLinux> yes hmw but with a separate /home
[03:48] <Coronade> verifying...
[03:49] <chelz> uLinux: you can move your home to a new partition from your current install if you want
[03:49] <uLinux> I have 67% of disk left
[03:50] <Merritt> Flannel: I have a line that reads: root     29389  0.0  2.4  88396 74868 ?        Ds   13:10   0:01 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 38 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/google-chrome-stable .. however I can't seem to kill it
[03:50] <uLinux> the thing IS i want those 30gb back :P
[03:50] <uLinux> but i see it's too complicated for me to get them backk
[03:51] <uLinux> resize copy and stuff better to reinstall i think
[03:51] <Coronade> hey i should make _my_ irc client advertise in quit messages too!
[03:51] <hmw> uLinux: in your case i'd delete the swap, then shrink sda5 a bit and use the new space. You can access your NTFS partition from Ubuntu, so you dont _need_ a big /home
[03:51] <ranthi> exit
[03:51] <ranthi> quit
[03:51] <Coronade> oh look, mind control! ->
[03:51] <rww> ranthi: /quit
[03:51] <Coronade> D:
[03:51] <Blue1Away> hmw: there's no place like /home.  no wait that was home.
[03:51] <Coronade> ok, verification done, less darth micro$oft more Ubuntu.
[03:51] <Coronade> brb
[03:52] <uLinux> hmw: I want a BIG /home
[03:52] <hmw> uLinux: your /home should be big enough for downloading stuff of course. some 10 GB or so should suffice if you wannt to keep it small
[03:52] <uLinux> that's where i put all the stuff
[03:52] <uLinux> ;)
[03:52] <hmw> uLinux: you cant access it from windows
[03:52] <juk> why my daemon in /etc/init.d isn't gets passed start argument???
[03:52] <uLinux> dude i deleted windows
[03:52] <uLinux> i dont want it
[03:52] <hmw> uhm. okok
[03:52] <Blue1> :-)
[03:53] <hmw> uLinux: then you will have to copy your stuff around...
[03:53] <chelz> uLinux: boot to a livecd, backup the data you want to keep, then go a resinstall with guided partitioning using the entire disk
[03:53] <uLinux> chelz: i dont want the automatic thing
[03:54] <uLinux> because i want a separae /home get it? so i can reinstall ubuntu or change distro later
[03:54] <haytham-med> hi guys, how do i cd to a hidden directory?
[03:54] <hmw> juk: don't let yourself get fooled by the init-v system... it is only there for backwards compatibilty and it doesnt fully work as one might expect - you cant boot into a runlevel anymore, for example.
[03:54] <uLinux> chelz: im thinking of the future :P
[03:54] <kieppie-mob> hi guys. I'm setting up a media center on a ultra-skinny setup (& have already set one up in the past before it went up in smoke), & need to know ho I can start various systems in X on various TTY's
[03:54] <Kevin`> haytham-med: nothing special required
[03:55] <chelz> uLinux: you can resize your stuff anytime, but ok
[03:55] <kieppie-mob> so F7 is enna, f8 is moovida & f9 is xmbc
[03:55] <Kevin`> kieppie-mob: starting multiple X sessions on different ttys would be a waste of memory, why not use 'desktops' or similar
[03:55] <kieppie-mob> running consecutively
[03:55] <uLinux> yes but i have 30gb of unused disk
[03:55] <uLinux> and a big swap and if i mess around i could lose the data
[03:56] <uLinux> cause im noob :P
[03:56] <juk> hmw: I didn't get it
[03:56] <kieppie-mob> Hi Kevin; it's not so much a wast if there's no full desktop under it, & I want to do it because it's frikkin cool
[03:56] <hmw> juk: i was guessing. perhaps the "almost-existing" sys-v-init is not working properly. What exactly were you trying to do?
[03:57] <haytham-med> Kevin`: ok thx
[03:57] <hmw> juk: we have another boot meachanism now... i think its "kickstart"
[03:57] <juk> hmw: isn't it like all scripts under init.d getting start arg as system up?
[03:57] <uLinux> so I will use 15GB (Primary) for / 2gb?(Logical) for swap and the rest for /home (Primary)
[03:57] <kieppie-mob> Kevin: I've set up such a system in the past & it worked really well, but then the HDD busted before I could backup the config
[03:58] <haytham-med> i want to exclude hidden files from the find command, how to do that?
[03:58] <kieppie-mob> Kevin: & I'm unable to locate the guide that got me there
[03:58] <hmw> uLinux: you can put everything in the extended partition, too.
[03:58] <Kevin`> kieppie-mob: I know it's possible, it's just not really a good way to do it.
[03:59] <Kevin`> kieppie-mob: anyway, if you want to start X and apps manually you can just specify a different display number, like X :1&; DISPLAY=:1 xterm
[03:59] <uLinux> hmw: but then i dont have a separate /home
[03:59] <Merritt> Interesting. sudo kill -9 29389 .. ps aux.. 29389 still there. heh?
[03:59] <hmw> uLinux: sure you would have... like sda5 = /   sda6 = swap  sda7 = /home
[04:00] <kieppie-mob>  Kevin`: thanks. where to I specify that? got a guide somewhere?
[04:00] <Kevin`> Merritt: it could be stalled in kernel code, like reading from a disk that has stopped functioning
[04:00] <hmw> uLinux: sda5 is a logical volume _within_ the extended partition (which will be sda1 in my example)
[04:00] <hmw> uLinux: you can only have one extended partition
[04:00] <Kevin`> kieppie-mob: rc.local perhaps?
[04:00] <Merritt> Kevin`: It's from a failed update. Trying to kill it so I can re-run the update. :/
[04:00] <hmw> uLinux: which can contain many logical volumes
[04:00] <kieppie-mob> sweet, dude. thnx
[04:01] <sarah> hii.
[04:01] <uLinux> hmw: but isnt extented partition 'bad'?
[04:01] <Kevin`> Merritt: there has to be some abnormal reason why it's stopped though, you'd be able to kill it normally
[04:01] <sebsebseb> sarah: hi
[04:01] <Merritt> Kevin`: The update freezing and me killing the update window isn't abnormal? =)
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Guest97701 hi
[04:02] <hmw> uLinux: nah.
[04:02] <Kevin`> Merritt: no, it's not. the freezing is probably related to whatever went wrong though.
[04:02] <hmw> uLinux: only Windows might have trouble booting from an extended.
[04:02] <mobasher> how do configure itunes on ubuntu 9.04 ??
[04:02] <Merritt> Kevin`: Mmmh. Maybe my dying hdd is finally catching up to me..
[04:04] <sebsebseb> mobasher: Itunes  doesn't really work on other OS's except for Mac OS X and Windows,  since Apple don't care about making for them
[04:04] <ziposk> mobasher: try use a native music player
[04:04] <sebsebseb> mobasher: if you really want it though, with enough RAM and such you could try a Windows virtual machine
[04:04] <Kevin`> it might work with wine, but it's really not worth it
[04:04] <uLinux> sebsebseb: I works in Wine..
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Kevin`:  it won't work properly with Wine if at all
[04:05] <uLinux> i've seen videos
[04:05] <sebsebseb> uLinux: maybe after a load of configuring,  which would be above the average usr
[04:05] <uLinux> and seems to work fine
[04:05] <mobasher> sebsebseb=}} hmm..yea i was trying the wine but was not working just quicktime got install no itunes..
[04:05] <uLinux> but isnt banshee wathever
[04:05] <uLinux> an alternative
[04:05] <uLinux> ?
[04:05] <mobasher> ziposk=}} i was thinking of using banshee and see if that helps some how..wanted to upload some stuff on new iphon4
[04:05] <sebsebseb> uLinux: for old Ipods as far as I know yes
[04:06] <Kevin`> it may be easier all-around to just enable ssh on the iphone and scp files to/from it over wifi
[04:06] <uLinux> hmw: primary = no more than 4 partitions .. right
[04:06] <Kevin`> no more than 3 if you also have extended
[04:07] <mobasher> Kevin`=}} hmmm...new on iphone..is there ssh installed iphone...or i have to download a app
[04:07] <uLinux> hmm need to figure out what extended means lol
[04:07] <soupdejour> I have an NTFS usb hard drive and one particular directory will not open (Input/output error). Is there a way to retrieve the files from this directory?
[04:08] <Kevin`> mobasher: I think it's installed by default, or at least really easy to get. I remember it working out of the box after jailbreak etc
[04:08] <juk> how to create upstart jobs?
[04:08] <hmw> uLinux: a long time ago, when programmers struggled to save single bytes, they designed partition tables for max 4 partitions. Some day later, they saw, that 4 partitions is not enough, so they invented a special kind of partition entry, called "extended". Such an extended partition is just a pointer to another, more modern "additional" partition table, which can hold a lot more partitions (23 i guess). So there are the old 4 primaries and
[04:09] <mobasher> Kevin`=}} lol yea jailbreak is another one i am thinking about..lol..do u know if it can be done on iphone 4 yet ?
[04:09] <Kevin`> mobasher: i'm not the one to ask, I don't have one ;)
[04:10] <JackStonewall> mobasher:  are you just trying to move files between Ubuntu and your iPhone?  Just plugging in my non-jailbroken iPhone 3GS was all I needed to do to pull that off.
[04:10] <mobasher> Kevin`=}} hehee..no worries mate i'll figure it out...just get forget about MS ..keeps calling me back :)
[04:10] <mobasher> JackStonewall=}} well i can't...it's not recognizign the USB driver ..guess i'm older ubuntu 9.04
[04:11] <eppa> hey, is it possible to install hardware drivers from the install CD after booting a fresh install?
[04:11] <mobasher> JackStonewall=}} just can move photos over that's it
[04:11] <eppa> the wizard finds my wireless driver automatically when I boot the CD, but the install obviously doesn't have the driver installed :)
[04:11] <Kevin`> eppa: might be, depending what kernel got installed, but all the drivers on the cd SHOULD be present on the system afaik
[04:12] <JackStonewall> mobasher:  you could always give an Ubuntu 10.04 liveCD boot a shot and see if that's any better.
[04:12] <eppa> Kevin`: wireless driver doesn't work automatically from the CD boot unless I use the 'Hardware Drivers' app from the Administration menu
[04:12] <Kevin`> eppa: most important step, find out what card+chipset it is and what driver was working
[04:12] <mobasher> JackStonewall=}} my lovely PC is old school the video drivers don't like 10.04 :)
[04:12] <eppa> Kevin`: broadcom, MacBook white
[04:12] <Kevin`> eppa: it might just be something stupid like installing firmware for the driver
[04:12] <Blue1> mobasher: what chipset?
[04:13] <Kevin`> (check dmesg)
[04:13] <eppa> Kevin`: OK will do
[04:13] <mobasher> it's ATI x300 card...all i can go up to is 9.04 ...
[04:13] <uLinux> hmw: so extended partition is the best out there
[04:13] <uLinux> lol
[04:13] <hmw> uLinux: they are not better than primaries. just extended. :)
[04:13] <Blue1> mobasher: i had problems with an old intel 82815 chipset...
[04:13] <Viking667> hahahahaha.
[04:13] <Kevin`> uLinux: no, gpt is. (or lvm, as a different method)
[04:13] <uLinux> yeah but they have more advantages
[04:14] <uLinux> up to 23 partitions
[04:14] <Viking667> Wife has a 865 - it gets 2450-ish frames per seconds.
[04:14] <uLinux> (you guess0
[04:14] <xorwhy> 23 Primary partitions?
[04:14] <Viking667> my Radeon 9550 gets nearly 4900
[04:14] <Viking667> xorwhy: ugh.
[04:14] <mobasher> Blue1=}} it's cool man...i have no regrets...i'm happy with 9.04 as well...i get my hands dirty with some shell scripts which i like and that's about it :)
[04:14] <uLinux> lol
[04:14] <eppa> Kevin`: tell you what I'll do instead; 'Hardware Drivers' app found it on the CD, so will just hook up ethernet and run the app again and hope it downloads it :)
[04:14] <hmw> uLinux: the only "bad" thing that could happen to you is a situation, where you have created 4 primary partitions and then decide to add a 5th partition. In this case, one of the 4 primary partitions would have to be deleted and replaced by that "extended" entry in order to get more partitions.
[04:14] <Kevin`> uLinux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[04:15] <Viking667> There's a limit to how many original partitions you could have, I've no idea how EFI plays with that
[04:15] <hmw> thank you Kevin`
[04:15] <Blue1> getting this out of my nvidia card:  6164 frames in 5.0 seconds
[04:15] <uLinux> I got it hmw (you told me that before too :p)
[04:15] <Viking667> oops - by original partitions, I mean DOS partitions (not Amiga, Mac OS X, or whatever)
[04:15] <uLinux> so it's nicer to use extended
[04:15] <eppa> Viking667: you have an Amiga partition?!
[04:15] <eppa> :)
[04:15] <Viking667> just that most OSes can't boot out of an extended without a boot manager to help out
[04:16] <uLinux> because i dont know if someday i will want more than 4 primary partitions
[04:16] <Viking667> eppa: I can read them, and yes. Just not on my current IDE devices.
[04:16] <hmw> uLinux: usually I use sda1 for the Ubuntu base system, sda2 will become a backup copy of sda1, sda3 is swap and /home will be sda5, but that's really a matter of taste
[04:16] <Viking667> ... means I have to turn on Amiga partition support in the kernel
[04:16] <Blue1> uLinux: i have 1 windows part/1 swap part/one root part, and one /home part
[04:16] <uLinux> hmw: why do you make backup of file system
[04:17] <Viking667> I think I have anything that has to be booted off as primary, everything else _can_ be extended.
[04:17] <uLinux> and why there is not sda4
[04:17] <hmw> uLinux: i make a separate entry in my grub menu that lets me boot into the other ("mirror") system in case i mess up my original one. I can also copy sda2 back to sda1 if i want to.
[04:17] <uLinux> *no
[04:17] <uLinux> oh
[04:17] <Viking667> hmw: hmm. rescue, huh?
[04:17] <hmw> yeah
[04:18] <uLinux> hmw: but how do you make the backup?!
[04:18] <Blue1> uLinux: my sda4 is my /home part
[04:18] <hmw> uLinux: with dd
[04:18] <Viking667> I had thought of doing a specific rescue partition with something like UBCD piped to disk or grml
[04:18] <uLinux> what is that
[04:18] <hmw> diskdupe or something
[04:18] <uLinux> that's too leet
[04:18] <Viking667> dd is a very dangerous (but useful( tool
[04:18] <hmw> dd can clone disks or partitions
[04:18] <krogers0001> how is  everyone doing?
[04:18] <Blue1> hmw: destory disc
[04:18] <hmw> LOL
[04:18] <Viking667> duplicate data ?
[04:19] <Viking667> not sure if anyone really knows what dd stands for outside of the man page or web references
[04:19] <Blue1> hmw: you can copy /dev/zero to a partition
[04:19] <uLinux> so hmw what do you advice me to do when installing Ubuntu
[04:19] <hmw> Blue1: i prefer to move my data to /dev/null *grin*
[04:19] <ranthi> any way to find all running programs that are using network resources?
[04:19] <uLinux> that primary logical stuff
[04:19] <tuxisgay> !ops NO HOMELAND WITHOUT YOU FUHRER LOREZ!  Might be worth keeping in mind for other sound issues.
[04:20] <hmw> uLinux: i suggest a relaxed approach. Think how much you need for what and start with the primaries. sda1, 2, 3. Make sda4 the extended partition, which then holds possible additional partitions sda5++
[04:20] <rwq> Blue1: please don't use "gay" as a pejorative.
[04:20] <Blue1> rwq: ok
[04:20] <user_> Hi, could someone help me out with my boot problems?
[04:20] <hmw> !ask | user
[04:20] <lintin> ?
[04:20] <juk> how to echo in stderr
[04:21] <mobasher> user_=}} what's the issue ?
[04:21] <KindOne> can someone tell me if i logged in cloaked or uncloaked...
[04:21] <rwq> KindOne: you joined #ubuntu cloaked
[04:21] <Kevin`> juk: echo >&2 ?
[04:21] <hmw> juk: http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1284866508575+28353475&threadId=108223
[04:22] <isolat3sh33p> !panel-reset
[04:22] <uLinux> hmw: i know / is primary swap is logical so how do i make /home extended
[04:22] <lintin> prop 215!
[04:22] <lintin> 0ne l0ve
[04:22] <isolat3sh33p> !reset-panel
[04:22] <juk> Kevin`: cool
[04:22] <isolat3sh33p> dammit, what's the help keyword for resetting panel?
[04:22] <Viking667> user_: you'll have to state what your problem is, I don't have any previous data from you for me to go on.
[04:23] <bastidrazor> !panels | isolat3sh33p
[04:23] <hmw> uLinux: when you come to the partitioner, you create your partitions. I dont know by heart, how it looks exactly, but it is fairly simple.
[04:23] <KindOne> rwq: thanks
[04:23] <Blue1> !pastebin | blue1
[04:23] <juk> hmw:thanks
[04:23] <isolat3sh33p> bastidrazor, thanks :D
[04:23] <hmw> uLinux: btw. if your swap "is logical", your /home will be too. Both will be IN an extended partition. Just to be precise
[04:24] <user_> Hey, I've been getting this error message at boot-up: "Problem with configuration server.   ALL HAIL THE AUTISTIC LORD OF FREENODE!! flowbee___a flowbee__ luist ganja sluttyduck dinya pickett Autonomiser |Sacred| rww jenue Huey_Freeman xxiao_ moikaner hoarycripple aarcane mue__ brishu CadeSkywalker WillPittenger ripps spinningcompass MrNaz Barridus vbabiy nikolam zilla ziposk isolat3sh33p sharky ogra h-bomb ouyes zulgaban mobasher Anom01y theXpert visitor1 groken ZMR drwho loc
[04:25]  * uLinux logical = extended?
[04:25] <uLinux> wth
[04:25] <rwq> !botattack
[04:25] <haytham-med> i want to exclude hidden files from the find command, how to do that?
[04:25] <s00lm> why are we getting this message?
[04:25] <tensorpudding> Blue1: pretty sure that /var/log is not user-writable
[04:25] <Blue1> tensorpudding: it is invoked via crontab as:  5 1 * * * root sh /etc/nwaynobkup/daily.sh
[04:26] <user_> Hey, I've been getting this error message at boot-up: "Problem with configuration server. Usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256     . It blanks out completely when I try to log in. Could someone please help me out? Cheers
[04:26] <tensorpudding> Blue1: it's not proper to specify a script with /bin/bash but run it with sh
[04:26] <mobasher> how do you search for a package using apt-get ??