[06:06] <wizek> stefg, wizek@wizek-tabletop:~$ lspci | grep -i nvidia
[06:06] <wizek> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0193 (rev a2)
[06:06] <wizek> What does it mean?
[06:06] <Jkessler> i'm talking about the window where you can see all of your channels.. like the main program.  not just some dialog box at startup.  v6.21
[06:06] <MTecknology> Can anybody help me get this usb drive mounted and working?
[06:06] <ZummiG777> Question: I have a couple of Dell PowerEdge 2400 systems with Perc 2/Si RAID controllers.  I read there that Perc 3 and below were no longer officially supported.  Is this true, and if so is there a method to enable the older drivers?
[06:07] <WorkingGeier> hi
[06:07] <solstice`4L> MK, be more specific...how is it formatted? (FAT, NTFS....)
[06:07] <WorkingGeier> what is the correct way to find out the Ubuntu version?
[06:07] <genii> ZummiG777: You may find a better answer in #ubuntu-server
[06:07] <solstice`4L> stfw :/
[06:07] <WorkingGeier> in a freshly debootstrapped chroot I can only find /etc/debian_version
[06:07] <solstice`4L> ah
[06:08] <ZummiG777> Thanks genii :)
[06:08] <WorkingGeier> (or is it wrong to use Debian's debootstrap?)
[06:08] <stefg> wizek: here's a guide http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_nvidia_feisty
[06:09] <WorkingGeier> (I am building a package against all releases in use by a larger audience, and need to generate proper "version numbers" for them
[06:09] <genii> ZummiG777: np  I have some PowerEdge 2450 but don't use software for the RAID
[06:10] <misstajah> stefg does that URL work for my issue as well?
[06:10] <genii> The builtin hardware RAID anyhow
[06:10] <stefg> misstajah: worth a try
[06:10] <misstajah> ok
[06:10] <misstajah> brb then
[06:11] <Djohn> How can I enable promiscuous mode on my wireless netcard?
[06:12] <stefg> ZummiG777: that would probably involve compiling your own kernel
[06:12] <SurfnKid_> how do i kill a port on netstat?
[06:13] <WorkingGeier> Djohn, ifconfig <card> promisc
[06:13] <WorkingGeier> Djohn, use -promisc to turn back off
[06:13] <erUSUL> SurfnKid_: you can't "kill a port"
[06:13] <Djohn> okay :) thanks will try that
[06:13] <SurfnKid> erUSUL, under netstat there is a specific port being used with FIN_WAIT1
[06:14] <SurfnKid> need to kill the established connection (not port sorry )
[06:14] <erUSUL> SurfnKid: you have to kill the process that has this connection "open"
[06:14] <_atomic> sup
[06:14] <SurfnKid> it is dead
[06:14] <SurfnKid> its closed :/
[06:14] <ZummiG777> stefg: That is what I was worried about.
[06:15] <SurfnKid> been closed for over 5 minutes
[06:15] <misstajah> stefg my Nvidia card doesn't show up anywhere!!
[06:16] <riddlebox> can I do wildcards with wget?
[06:16] <SurfnKid> erUSUL, there are certain connections still established to something that was opened with that process I had
[06:16] <stefg> misstajah: lspci ? might be your motherboard doesn't play well with the kernel and you need to use some boot-paramter like fixirq or acpi off . see !boot for a list of options
[06:16] <Ominous> i just updated to use the latest alsa drivers and now i have no sound at all and when i click on the volume icon it says "No volume control GStreamer plugins found and/or devices found
[06:16] <misstajah> !boot
[06:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:17] <erUSUL> SurfnKid: i think that you will have to wait until the kernel "times out" this socket i do not know of a way to force that
[06:17] <dr_willis> riddlebox,  some times. :) ya normally need to quote them '*.txt' but often i dont find it working right.  may be  a server issue. Check the wget man pages.
[06:17] <genii> ZummiG777: When i installed 6.06 server on the 2450 I had 1 RAID1 and 1 RAID5 (with 3 disks) in bios, they just appeared as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb respectively
[06:17] <_atomic> ??
[06:17] <SurfnKid> erUSUL, :) yeah
[06:17] <Ominous> stefg: ??
[06:18] <misstajah> stefg: lspci | grep nVidia => 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0428 (rev a1)
[06:18] <SurfnKid> on another not
[06:18] <SurfnKid> e
[06:18] <SurfnKid> Does anyone know how to make an ISO bootable?
[06:19] <WorkingGeier> complex process
[06:19] <SurfnKid> I have a copy of the recovery partition CD
[06:19] <WorkingGeier> bootable ISOs actually have an image for a 2.88MB floppy on them
[06:19] <SurfnKid> stored on the hard drive, Id like to burn it to an iso bootable copy
[06:19] <Jkessler> are there any ubuntu ircd packages like bahamut available for download?
[06:19] <SurfnKid> I already have a few bootable DVDs with norton
[06:20] <stefg> misstajah: so the card is found, you'll have to run the latest nvidia-driver as mentioned in the howto
[06:20] <SurfnKid> but Id like to get this specific one because it includes the images already built into the recovery system
[06:20] <rsc___> hey guys.
[06:21] <rsc___> mmm, i'm trying to configure my Wine setup. where can I get help on that? :)
[06:21] <Ominous> stefg: i just updated to use the latest alsa drivers and now i have no sound at all and when i click on the volume icon it says "No volume control GStreamer plugins found and/or devices found
[06:22] <stefg> Ominous: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+question/8651
[06:22] <stefg> Ominous:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121621
[06:23] <rjek> Sounds like the user wasn't in the audio group by default, and when you change that setting you need to log out/back in again for it to take effect.
[06:24] <stefg> Ominous: check if you really have the proper module loaded. BTW, i just said to look at the mixer settings, not recompile alsa
[06:25] <Ominous> oh
[06:25] <Ominous> how do i check if i have the proper module
[06:26] <Doug52392> Hi, I changed the smb.conf file to try to get my Ubuntu Linux laptop on my Windows domain. How do I log onto the domain?
[06:27] <Doug52392> I tried a few net ads commands, and when I typed net ads user, I got the following result:
[06:27] <Doug52392> [2007/07/17 12:24:35, 0]  libads/kerberos.c:ads_kinit_password(208)
[06:27] <Doug52392>   kerberos_kinit_password<EMAIL_ADDRESS>failed: Preauthentication failed
[06:27] <Doug52392> [2007/07/17 12:24:35, 0]  utils/net_ads.c:ads_startup(289)
[06:27] <Doug52392>   ads_connect: Preauthentication failed
[06:28] <danfg> how can i have gedit recognize files with .inc or .phtml extension as php files and use the correct syntax highlighting?
[06:28] <hwilde> I have a minimal system installed on a 2G flashcard, and I want to upgrade to Feisty to get kernel 2.6.20.  Is there a way to upgrade only the existing packages?   If I run apt-get dist-upgrade it runs out of diskspace intalling unnecessary packages.
[06:28] <davetarmac> I'm having an issue with my top panel. I have recently installed Compiz in order to get AWN working correctly but now my top panel hovers so I can put windows underneath it. How can I get it back so that this doesn't happen?
[06:28] <SurfnKid> erUSUL, got it thanks
[06:30] <wizek> stefg, it didn't work :(
[06:30] <relativeownershi> i'm regged now...
[06:30] <relativeownershi> anybody here?
[06:31] <wizek> stefg, are u here?
[06:31] <wizek> stefg, could u came to a private room?
[06:31] <Cubey> hm, quick problem. When I installed ubuntu it didn't seem to set the boot partition active, how do I do so now?
[06:31] <stefg> !pm | wizek
[06:31] <ubotu> wizek: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:32] <grim76> Doug52392: did you happen to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto  I have used that document before and it worked for me.
[06:32] <Cubey> it's not booting from the HD automatically. i have to use the CD so start the HD boot
[06:32] <AnRkey> where can i find a network install iso for ubuntu?
[06:32] <wizek> stefg, i have the description
[06:32] <dr_willis> Cubey,  gparted on the live cd may be able to set that.. I dont recall it needing to be set.
[06:32] <wizek> stefg, it says:
[06:33] <dr_willis> Cubey,  but it may have a bit to do with the specific machine/bios i guess
[06:33] <frb-work> Hi
[06:33] <Cubey> dr_willis, nah, i have the BIOS set properly
[06:33] <HEP85> hwilde: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic"
[06:33] <frb-work> ~ftpd
[06:33] <relativeownershi> i'm having trouble booting ubuntu on this system
[06:33] <Cubey> i'll try gparted
[06:33] <relativeownershi> its giving me an error message about being unable to access tty
[06:33] <dr_willis> Cubey,  i dident say you dident.. i am saying that ive not HAD to have them set 'bootable' in the bast.
[06:33] <tanlaan> If I right click a .iso file and click write to disk, will it burn the file or the image to disk?
[06:34] <dr_willis> past.. it may be a limiution of the bios's however. :) gparted should be able to set it.
[06:34] <nickrud> tanlaan, image
[06:34] <Cubey> well, usually you do i think unless i'm mistaken. that's how BIOS knows if it should try to boot it or not
[06:34] <dr_willis> tanlaan,  it should burn it as an image.
[06:34] <relativeownershi> This is my error message: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[06:34] <tanlaan> ok thanks
[06:34] <tanlaan> just making sure =]
[06:34] <tanlaan> didn't wanna waste a disk
[06:34] <dr_willis> Cubey,  i was thinking Grub handled that. from what i recall reading in the docs.
[06:34] <dr_willis> Cubey,  windows however.. is different. :0
[06:34] <Cubey> hm
[06:35] <wizek> stefg, I could not run the x-server (the GUI). Maybe it isn't set properly. Would u like to have a look at the x-server's output the problem[it ends here]
    <no>
[06:35] <Cubey> perhaps grub didn't install?
[06:35] <majorjrk> I cant isntall feisty on a brand new laptop, getting the /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off and [ 1.404052]  PCI : Failed to allocate mem resource #6:XXXXXXXXXXXXXX fpr 0000:01:00.0 Loading please wait, anyone could help me ?
[06:35] <dr_willis> Cubey,  do you see a GRub/boot menu?
[06:35] <klu9> any way I can (easily/graphically) remotely fix a sound issue on someone's Edgy install?
[06:35] <relativeownershi> majorjrk, i'm having a similiar problem with an old desktop
[06:35] <Cubey> no, the drive fails to boot as if it doesn't have a boot record or OS on it
[06:35] <relativeownershi> majorjrk, but i haven't been able to find any help yet
[06:36] <dr_willis> Cubey,  'sudo fdisk -l' will show a * in the 'boot' colum for the bootable bit being set.
[06:36] <dr_willis> Cubey,  somthing sounds very very odd..
[06:36] <stefg> wizek: so yes, we would like to have a look at the error... :-)
[06:36] <majorjrk> im having it on a brand new laptop
[06:36] <bastos12> hello gentlemen. I need have a question about how to remove linux from my computer - more specifically, i want to get rid of grub and have ntldr boot straight into windows. please help
[06:36] <relativeownershi> majorjrk, have you trie dbooting other distributions?
[06:36] <majorjrk> debian booted fine, but i got other issues there ;/
[06:36] <primski> anybody on quakenet server atm ?
[06:36] <Cubey> dr_willis, it's not set to boot
[06:37] <HEP85> klu9: ssh with X forwarding, or alternatively vnc
[06:37] <dr_willis> Cubey,  fire up gparted then from the live cd.
[06:37] <Cubey> righto
[06:37] <phaidros> hi, anybody pulseaudio with skype 1.4 running?
[06:37] <phaidros> [in feisty]
[06:37] <phaidros> or any hint to howto?
[06:37] <klu9> HEP85: thx, where can I get more info on that?
[06:37] <stefg> bastos12: enter 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot' at the windows commad prompt
[06:38] <hwilde> !skype | phaidros
[06:38] <ubotu> phaidros: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:38] <HEP85> !VNC
[06:38] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:38] <relativeownershi> bastos12, to remove linux you're going to have to use a bootable linux distribution with a program that can edit partitions, like gparted. you can try the ubuntu cd - it has a good partition program on it that you can use to delete linux. to reinstall ndldr to the master boot record you'll have to use windows boot disk. there are plenty of tutorials on restoring your mbr with the windows xp disk.
[06:38] <HEP85> !SSH
[06:38] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:38] <klu9> ubotu & HEP85, thx for the links
[06:39] <bastos12> relativeownershi: the linux partition is on a hard drive that's on longer in my computer. i literally just want to get rid of grub
[06:39] <fuzzy_logic> !ubotu
[06:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:39] <bastos12> stefg: to get to a command prompt i put in my windows CD and went to the "recovery console" - that count?
[06:39] <stefg> bastos12: yes. further questions about windows in ##windows, plz
[06:39] <bastos12> i should be all set. thanky ou
[06:39] <frb-work> I'm so confused
[06:39] <relativeownershi> bastos12, that's a question for a windows forum. you'll have to reinstate the windows boot loader to the mbr, i know its  a pretty straightforward process with one of the windows xp installation disks.
[06:40] <phaidros> hwilde, thanx but there is no mentioning of pulseaudio, and the site talks about a skype version which uses oss, which 1.4 is not doing any more :(
[06:40] <Talcite> hey guys, I need to make a VOIP call today at 2pm, but I can't get my mic to work
[06:40] <relativeownershi> bastos12, even if you simply removed grub you'd be left without a bootable computer because then you wouldn't have a bootloader at all.
[06:40] <frb-work> I removed wu-ftpd, but it left all the files in place, I install vsftpd, but whenever I ftp to the host, my syslog whines about not being able to execute wu-ftd
[06:40] <frb-work> wu-ftpd that is
[06:40] <phaidros> hwilde: usually with older skype some simple pulseaudio tweak and "padsp skype" helps, but as there is no more oss ..
[06:40] <hanasaki> console shells shwo the correct time.. the gnome xterms and date applet show about 16 hours later... whats up?
[06:41] <Talcite> can someone who has experience with ALSA give me a hand?
[06:41] <EightEleven> Talcite: You can check if it is enabled in volume control
[06:41] <Talcite> EightEleven: yup, it's all enabled and everything
[06:42] <felixhummel> hi!
[06:42] <phaidros> hi, anybody pulseaudio with skype 1.4 (no oss, just alsa) running ??
[06:42] <relativeownershi> anybody know how to overcome the CAN'T ACCESS TTY; JOB CONTROL TURNED OFF boot problem i'm having?
[06:42] <Talcite> EightEleven: I'm using an Intel HD audio codec, does that have anything to do with it?
[06:42] <stefg> hanasaki: your timezone setting seems wrong
[06:42] <EightEleven> Talcite: I don't know enough about ALSA if the problem is there.
[06:42] <CheesyMonkey> !intelhda | Talcite
[06:42] <ubotu> Talcite: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[06:42] <hanasaki> stefg:  where can i set it?
[06:42] <bastos12> stefg: it worked like a charm, thank you! =)
[06:42] <Lorvija> Hey, I got logitech wireless mx laser mouse.. is there any way to make those buttons on the side of the mouse work?
[06:42] <hanasaki> stefg:  its right on the console but not in gnome
[06:42] <Talcite> EightEleven: ahh thanks for the help anyways. I'm going to try that link
[06:42] <klu9> HEP85: that VNC guide is for Ubuntu-to-Ubuntu remote. Still valid for XP-to-Ubuntu remote?
[06:42] <bastos12> relativeownershi: i know it'd be useless to have a bootloaderless compy, which was why my preferred method of removing grub was one that also put ntldr back in. it's all set now
[06:42] <felixhummel> i'm looking for a mpeg2 cut program. it should just separate one huge file into some smaller files. ideally without recoding (GOP-precision would suffice).
[06:43] <relativeownershi> bastos12, cool. good luck!
[06:43] <hanasaki> anything in X that allows native remote desktops to windows clients?  not vnc.. but using the win protocol
[06:43] <stefg> hanasaki: right click the clock applet
[06:43] <HEP85> klu9: Yes, but maybe it is easier to use the gnome builtin vino. The guide does not use it
[06:44] <relativeownershi> I'm having a problem getting ubuntu to boot. it says /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. any ideas?
[06:44] <klu9> !vino
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <HEP85> !vino
[06:44] <hanasaki> stefg:  shouldnt it get the zone from the base OS?
[06:45] <hanasaki> also.. stefg it wont take the root passwd ... cuase its not an account with sudo acess
[06:45] <stefg> hanasaki: actually yes. there's only one tzconfig
[06:45] <relativeownershi> hanasaki, no it gets the time from your system bios. if thats wrong or if your cmos batt died then you gotta reset it. right? stefg
[06:45] <klu9> will look into vino, thx HEP85
[06:46] <relativeownershi> i still can't get ubuntu to boot: can't access tty, job control turned off.
[06:46] <hanasaki> stefg:  and relativeownershi the time is fine on the console.. just not in gnome
[06:46] <asaup> does anyone know any program to recover files that i deleted days ago
[06:46] <relativeownershi> hanasaki, stefg oh word
[06:46] <phaidros> hi, anybody pulseaudio with skype 1.4 (no oss, just alsa) running ??
[06:46] <relativeownershi> asaup, did you shift-del them or just del them
[06:46] <hanasaki> relativeownershi:  stefg umm correction.. its fine on the console for root only....
[06:46] <relativeownershi> asaup, from what disk - external, usb, ata, sata?
[06:46] <hanasaki> this is a brand new install
[06:46] <HEP85> klu9: Here is a client for windows: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/vnc-tight/tightvnc-1.3.9_x86_viewer.zip
[06:46] <asaup> sata
[06:47] <asaup> relativeownershi: sata and i shift -deleted them
[06:47] <asaup> :(
[06:47] <felixhummel> anybody?
[06:47] <relativeownershi> asaup, what os you running...ubuntu i take it? feisty, edgy?
[06:47] <stefg> hanasaki: UTC vs. local timezone ... but you need sudo-privs to change something
[06:47] <asaup> feisty
[06:47] <hanasaki> that was my thought.. by what to change?
[06:47] <relativeownershi> asaup, oh...nope, nothing you can do that i'm aware of.
[06:48] <downhillgames> where is smb.conf storeD?
[06:48] <relativeownershi> asaup, shift-delete is for that purpose. if you caught it seconds after it happened you might have been able to do something...but days ago...not likely at all. sorry.
[06:48] <asaup> relativeownershi: you mean its immpossible ???
[06:48] <royel> Could someone tell me how I can retrieve a list of all revisions avail in a SVN?
[06:48] <downhillgames> going once...
[06:48] <klu9> HEP85 thx for the VNC link
[06:48] <relativeownershi> asaup, as far as i know, yes. it is impossible. shift-delete is for that purpose.
[06:48] <downhillgames> going twice...
[06:49] <royel> downhillgames: gone!
[06:49] <asaup> relativeownershi: is there something i can give a try
[06:49] <relativeownershi> downhillgames, ...?
[06:49] <downhillgames> sold to the man in royel blue :)
[06:49] <asaup> so i can calm my mind
[06:49] <HEP85> klu9: you can set up the server on ubuntu with System-->Settings-->Remote Desktop
[06:49] <downhillgames> royel; where is smb.conf stored? :)
[06:49] <relativeownershi> asaup, i don't know of any way to do it. try googling something like "ubuntu feisty restore shift-deleted files"
[06:50] <royel> downhillgames: try /etc/samba/samba.conf
[06:50] <relativeownershi> downhillgames, try a locate command...
[06:50] <downhillgames> relativeownershi; if Ubuntu was my distro i would :)
[06:50] <downhillgames> thanks royel :D
[06:50] <relativeownershi> downhillgames, why are you in this channel if you're not using ubuntu (:
[06:50] <royel> downhillgames: or perhaps /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:50] <alienseer23> have a question about akregator...it is freezing up when I open it, and I do not know why, how do I find out what is causing the freeze?
[06:50] <royel> relativeownershi: because ubuntu users know all!
[06:51] <relativeownershi> royel, i know that.
[06:51] <relativeownershi> royel, haha
[06:51] <royel> relativeownershi: lol, I guess I should have known that !
[06:51] <relativeownershi> royel well you did, of course. maybe you know: why job control is turned off for my tty? i can't boot ubuntu.
[06:51] <phaidros> .
[06:52] <royel> Could someone tell me how I can retrieve a list of all revisions available in a SVN?
[06:52] <downhillgames> royel; someone else got it. /etc/samba/smb.conf :)
[06:52] <klu9> HEP85 I'll get my "customer" (mother :) ) to do that when she's online, thx
[06:52] <downhillgames> relativeownershi; because Fedora > Ubuntu :P but i'm helping someone with their problem
[06:52] <ksivaji> how make linux kernel lighter ?
[06:52] <royel> downhillgames: pff .. didn't you count down already! you should be Gone! :)
[06:52] <orgulloKmoore> oh dear, I desperately need help...PLEASE
[06:52] <downhillgames> royel; :D
[06:52] <orgulloKmoore> my sister like totally ruined my computer, and now I get nothing but bash in recovery mode
[06:53] <orgulloKmoore> and it won't even start in regular mode
[06:53] <royel> relativeownershi: I'm guessing this makes me a non Ubuntu user, I'm not sure
[06:57] <orgulloKmoore> it says it can't find the file "rules/xorg"
[06:57] <stefg> ksivaji: when you are in desparate need for 300 or 500 kB you have a different kind of problem than how to make the kernel lighter
[06:57] <downhillgames> orgulloKmoore; a physical lock will do wonders :)
[06:57] <royel> relativeownershi: what is there error your getting?
[06:57] <orgulloKmoore> and then when I first start it up, it says "unknown stanza" in /etc/event.d or something like that
[06:57] <orgulloKmoore> downhillgames: what's that?
[06:57] <relativeownershi> royel, < /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off >
[06:57] <orgulloKmoore> ohh...to keep my sister out?
[06:57] <ksivaji> stefg i cant get you
[06:57] <HEP85> klu9: you're welcome. btw: then you only need to enter her ip in the tightvnc viewer app on windows. no need for the long tutorials :-)
[06:57] <orgulloKmoore> I'm so pissed...but let's deal with the problem at hand
[06:57] <_Lucretia_> can anybody help me out with getting 32 bit compiles to work on feisty?
[06:57] <majorjrk> I cant isntall feisty on a brand new laptop, getting the /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off and [ 1.404052]  PCI : Failed to allocate mem resource #6:XXXXXXXXXXXXXX fpr 0000:01:00.0 Loading please wait, anyone could help me ?
[06:57] <orgulloKmoore> ugh, how do you scroll up in irssi?
[06:57] <stefg> ksivaji: if you aren't developing for some embedded device, there's no use in what you want
[06:57] <downhillgames> orgulloKmoore; to keep your sister out. like a masterlock
[06:57] <downhillgames> oh fevel was in here hahaha
[06:57] <relativeownershi> royel, i'm trying to boot a ubuntu disk on my friend's old computer. i've been using feisty disks.
[06:57] <orgulloKmoore> ok, downhillgames, but do you happen to know how to fix the problem I've got?
[06:57] <downhillgames> orgulloKmoore; what's the error when booting?
[06:57] <hanasaki> why would the time be off 16 hrs for users consoles and correct for the root?
[06:57] <klu9> HEP85 will I need to be Root to fix her sound issue?
[06:57] <royel> relativeownershi: I think it's a issue with mounts, let me try google
[06:57] <EightEleven> hanasaki: timezone settings?
[06:57] <HEP85> klu9: it depends. probably yes. but since you will see and control exactly her desktop, there is no problem switching to root
[06:57] <orgulloKmoore> downhillgames: first it says five times something like "unkown stanza in /etc/events.d or something like that, and then it says, with a red star next to it, not starting gnome, which is the default desktop, and then it says that it can't find "rules/xorg" in any known directories.
[06:57] <downhillgames> orgulloKmoore; bad timing, i have dogs to take care of
[06:57] <downhillgames> gotta go
[06:57] <klu9> HEP85: ok, thx
[06:57] <Lorvija> Hey, I got logitech wireless mx laser mouse.. is there any way to make those buttons on the side of the mouse work?
[06:57] <orgulloKmoore> urgh
[06:57] <relativeownershi> royel, oh man it seems to be working fine with edgy
[06:58] <royel> relativeownershi: I was just gonna suggest using a different dist
[06:58] <orgulloKmoore> help anyone
[06:58] <orgulloKmoore> ?
[06:58] <relativeownershi> royel, yeah puppy was OK and now edgy is working ok...but i want to use feisty. i guess there's not much i can do short of installing edgy then dist-upgrading, eh?
[06:59] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, ok man relax, its somewhat unlikely that your sister totally ruined your os
[06:59] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, no more suicide attempts in this channel ok
[06:59] <royel> relativeownershi: have you verified the disc to work on other machines?
[06:59] <orgulloKmoore> relativeownershi: eh, it's stressing
[06:59] <relativeownershi> royel, yeah
[06:59] <relativeownershi> royel, these disks work fine on my other computers
[07:00] <royel> relativeownershi: is it an older machine your having problems with then?
[07:00] <FusE-> Hi skollie
[07:00] <relativeownershi> royel, yeah but there's somebody else in the hcannel having a similiar problem with a brand new computer
[07:00] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, tell me about your computing setup. what system are you using, what OS?
[07:00] <FusE-> Is there a way to run ubuntu livecd iso without having to burn it
[07:00] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, also how are you typing on this channel - do you have a second system you're using?
[07:01] <orgulloKmoore> relativeownershi: I'm using irssi
[07:01] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, in console or in x? on your main desktop that' shaving trouble or on another systeM?
[07:01] <FusE-> Is there a way to run ubuntu livecd iso without having to burn it
[07:01] <WorkingGeier> is there an EmbeddedUbuntu channel?
[07:02] <FusE-> !iso
[07:02] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:02] <royel> FusE-: yes, google it
[07:02] <FusE-> Thanks, last time I checked this was a help channel
[07:02] <orgulloKmoore> relativeownershi: in console. And on the one I'm having trouble. I don't have another computer handy.
[07:02] <Cyber_Stalker> could some one help me, here is my error
[07:02] <Cyber_Stalker> http://rafb.net/p/RlT7aT51.html
[07:02] <royel> FusE-: want me to hold your hand while you piss?
[07:02] <klu9> FusE-: qemu
[07:03] <primski> Fuse... there is...check on ubuntuforums theres a howto, never done it mysef tho
[07:03] <FusE-> !spam | royel
[07:03] <ubotu> royel: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[07:03] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, do you have a bootable disk?
[07:03] <FusE-> !Attitude | Royel
[07:03] <ubotu> Royel: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:03] <primski> Fuse, you have to make grub run it somehow, rly check the forums :p
[07:03] <FusE-> Okay that one was not the one to do
[07:03] <orgulloKmoore> relativeownershi: I think I have knoppix
[07:03] <FusE-> Im looking atm
[07:03] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, do you have any really important files on your ubuntu installation you need to save?
[07:04] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, just in case you need to re-install?
[07:04] <orgulloKmoore> relativeownershi: I have a lot that I want to save...I thought it was improbable that she screwed up my whole os?
[07:04] <orgulloKmoore> here...I have the live ubuntu cd
[07:04] <royel> FusE-: You asked a open ended question, I answered you with a direct answer an provided a method for you to find more info on what you asked, you made the first ugly comment
[07:05] <primski> Fuse- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316093&highlight=iso+grub+howto
[07:05] <FusE-> royel, if you are going to have a bad attitude, then don't even talk
[07:05] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, just in case you have to re-install. it is unlikely but possible. be aware that you might not be able to get it all back.
[07:05] <FusE-> Thanks primski
[07:05] <royel> FusE-: I'm sorry?
[07:05] <orgulloKmoore> oh grand
[07:05] <orgulloKmoore> ok, well I'm gonna try to boot with this...brb
[07:05] <relativeownershi> orgulloKmoore, let me go back and review some of your other postings. can you get a little more information compiled about the error messageyou get when you try a normal boot?
[07:05] <derrick_> ehlo :)  is it possible to do an install via serial console if video is dead w/ existing install media?
[07:05] <royel> FusE-: how is my attitude bad? I am being nice here, as I always am.. your the one having the bot spam me
[07:05] <FusE-> Bleh, Ill just boot to windows and burn it
[07:05] <primski> Fuse- np
[07:06] <orgulloKmoore> relativeownershi: yeah, I will
[07:06] <FusE-> royel, google your problem, maybe you will find a solution
[07:06] <Hoxzer> I'm getting "mount: no permission to look at /dev/loop#"  when I try to mount iso any ideas ?
[07:06] <royel> FusE-: lol, what is your deal?
[07:06] <mneptok> lighten up, Francis.
[07:06] <orgulloKmoore> oops
[07:06] <switchcat> greetings, Q: my gnome/X seems to have stopped taking input from my mouse.  how can I reset or otherwise nudge X into fixing the problem?
[07:07] <relativeownershi> FusE-, yeah man chill out. we're all human here. thats what ubuntu is all about.
[07:07] <Hoxzer> nvm... :D
[07:07] <primski> switchcat, did u try restarting x ?
[07:07] <FusE-> Im not doing anything, hes the one with a sour attitude
[07:07] <primski> ok stfu now kids
[07:07] <primski> :P
[07:07] <HEP85> royel: I think he is pissed of because of the google thing
[07:08] <relativeownershi> FusE-, royel primski HEP85 lol yeah that's likely, eh? what's the problem again fuse?
[07:08] <FusE-> Nothing anymore
[07:08] <primski> what?
[07:08] <royel> HEP85: maybe.. wasn't trying to piss him off, simply told him an answer to his question, an stated try google, maybe I sounded "short" but I was "trying" to be helpful
[07:08] <relativeownershi> FusE-, well you can open the iso w/o butning it
[07:08] <mneptok> FusE- / royel: i'll gladly end the drama by banning you both. up to you how this plays out ...
[07:08] <hendrixski> :-( SVN is hard
[07:08] <relativeownershi> FusE-, you can actually open the iso as an archive file if you're in ubuntu
[07:09] <FusE-> Wow, I ask a question, and someone wants to ban me. Really takes away from the whole 'help' channel right mneptok?
[07:09] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> it fixed itself!
[07:09] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, what do you mean
[07:09] <OrgulloKmoore> I'm so happy, but I so baffled
[07:09] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> I restarted, for the fifth time or so, and everything
[07:09] <OrgulloKmoore> went normal
[07:09] <OrgulloKmoore> actually, it still gave me those errors
[07:10] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, didn't you say you were going to use the livecd
[07:10] <OrgulloKmoore> but this time I got my computer back
[07:10] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> yes, but I tried to restart in normal mode to give you more details about the error I was getting
[07:10] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, oh cool. you should have a log under /etc/log called Xorg.0.log
[07:11] <OrgulloKmoore> looking...
[07:11] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, sorry, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:11] <HEP85> royel: I believe that it was not your intention to piss him off. On the other hand I think that people who come here asking for help haven't found the right solution with google or just don't know the words they should search for
[07:11] <FusE-> >.< I looked on google trust me....
[07:11] <FusE-> brb
[07:11] <FusE-> booting to live cd
[07:11] <mneptok> someone needs a hug.
[07:11] <hendrixski> does anybody know a good manual for SVN?
[07:12] <relativeownershi> HEP85, that's true but there are also people who come here not having even looked at man pages or wikis, or installation instructions on the screen.
[07:12] <derrick_> hendrixski their online manual is a complete book
[07:12] <hendrixski> everything I find is written for people who already know what they're doing :-(
[07:12] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> yes, it's there
[07:12] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, good. pastebin it and let me look.
[07:12] <klu9> royel	FusE-: want me to hold your hand while you piss?
[07:12] <FirefighterBlu3> would you please?
[07:12] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:12] <linux_manju> hendrixski: tigris site has tons of it
[07:12] <royel> klu9: thanks, yes!
[07:12] <OrgulloKmoore> ok
[07:13] <hendrixski> linux_manju, derrick_, oh, logically I havn't looked at the site of the peole who  make... I googled it first.... lol
[07:13] <royel> klu9: his comment prior to that is the reason for that
[07:13] <younghacker> does anyone know how to repair the software index
[07:13] <derrick_> q:  is it possible to do an install w/o video using a serial console?
[07:13] <younghacker> my software indexes have been broken
[07:13] <younghacker> can someone help me fix them
[07:13] <HEP85> relativeownershi: those people exist, too. but you don't recognize them directly after the first sentence
[07:13] <FirefighterBlu3> derrick, yes
[07:13] <relativeownershi> HEP85, true that
[07:13] <FirefighterBlu3> you should probably use the server version
[07:14] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30238/
[07:14] <derrick_> FirefighterBlu3 i'm not having luck w/ google responses.  any suggestion on a keyword to try?  thanks for verifying it does exist tho :)
[07:14] <linux_manju> hendrixski: Nope.. They only assume that the person who is planning to use svn has some knowledge of revision systems
[07:14] <FirefighterBlu3> when you boot the cd, make sure your bios is already set to redirect the console
[07:14] <younghacker> ?????
[07:14] <mc44> younghacker: what do you mean by your software index
[07:15] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, i don't see any X errors that should cause problems.
[07:15] <FirefighterBlu3> derrick, then append something like "console=ttyS0,19200n8" to your boot line
[07:15] <hendrixski> linux_manju, ok, well, I've used CVS in Windows... so... it's interesting suddenly becoming a linux developer
[07:15] <derrick_> FirefighterBlu3  cool.  as long as the install media's kernel allows it :)  thanks!
[07:15] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, let me loko a bit more, one minute
[07:15] <FirefighterBlu3> derrick, you may have to blindly hit F6 after it boots and you believe it is at the boot menu
[07:16] <derrick_> FirefighterBlu3 understood.  mostly i couldn't find the .config for the install media's kernel to know
[07:16] <linux_manju> hendrixski: CVS in windows .. Tortoise or Cygwin?
[07:16] <FirefighterBlu3> it does, but the current ISOs of *ubuntu all go into graphical mode which is annoying
[07:16] <FirefighterBlu3> derrick, it's actually a lot easier to do a bootp setup from another machine
[07:16] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> ok. Also, the error seemed to be coming from /etc/event.d ...if that's of any help
[07:16] <fevel> hey
[07:16] <FirefighterBlu3> i don't have my notes handy, but i just did 6 machines last week that way
[07:17] <dxdemetriou> with K3B when I try to write DVD at 16X is writes at ~8X, and when I try at 8X it writes at ~4X. I have a NEC ND-3550A burner
[07:17] <hendrixski> linux_manju, ya know, it was just kind of already set up for me so I don't know... I just clicked a button in Eclipse and it magically worked
[07:17] <OrgulloKmoore> tty3, tty4, tty5, and tty6 if I recall
[07:17] <fevel> how Do I set up a share beetween ubuntu and the guest (windowsxp) on vmware server?
[07:17] <hendrixski> linux_manju, it's different when you ahve to set it up yourself
[07:17] <derrick_> FirefighterBlu3 perfect.  mostly i just wanted verification it's possible.  i'm sure i can work through it.  just wasn't sure if i needed to build a new install cd w/ an altered kernel.  thanks!
[07:17] <Lorvija> hey, how to restart x?
[07:17] <FirefighterBlu3> the iso kernel should work fine :)
[07:17] <derrick_> :D
[07:18] <sacater> Lorvija: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:18] <Lorvija> ty
[07:18] <majorjrk> relativeownershi: btw, have you tried the alternate cd installer ?
[07:18] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, hrm. check this out. enable your bootlog, reboot, and pastebin your boot log.
[07:18] <relativeownershi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925
[07:18] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925
[07:19] <relativeownershi> majorjrk, actually i was able to successfully boot edgy no problem
[07:19] <nkbreau> is there a way to get glibc-devel via apt-get ?
[07:19] <relativeownershi> majorjrk, but i'm trying the alt cd now (:
[07:19] <majorjrk> yeah, downloading here also
[07:19] <linux_manju> hendrixski: Well nothing to worry about.. Both cvs and svn play cool in Linux.. Only that the users go wayward :P
[07:20] <relativeownershi> majorjrk, well let me see if it helps
[07:20] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> ok, hopefully I don't get stuck in a shell again
[07:20] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, lol yeah
[07:20] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, btw
[07:20] <OrgulloKmoore> ...
[07:20] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, while in recovery mode did you try to start X?
[07:20] <hendrixski> linux_manju, wayward users eh?  I have SVN set up on my server, just gotta populate it and learn how to check stuff in and out.  shouldn't be that bad from here on out, ... I hope
[07:20] <linux_manju> hendrixski: I have a setup of cvs and svn with 400 odd users.. Belive me all the problems I have faced so far is from client side..  Ok...  :-(
[07:21] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, ok cool. for future refeence if you do something likee that there's a command built into the ubuntu kernel that enables you to kill stuff that was activated from a virtual command prompt.
[07:21] <relativeownershi> use alt+sysrq+k to kill x if you have to do it like that in the future.
[07:22] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, that last message was supposed to be pointed at you
[07:22] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> gotcha
[07:22] <OrgulloKmoore> ok, Ima reboot
[07:22] <jumbers> Is it possible to modify my microphone input on its way into Skype? I want to be able to change things like pitch to modify my voice. If so, how can I do such a thing?
[07:22] <delude> hello
[07:22] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, and also if you're ever in recovery mode and you want to try your desktop manager with X, try runnung "gdm" instead of "startx"
[07:22] <relativeownershi> delude, hello.
[07:22] <linux_manju> hendrixski: http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Subversion_for_Coders may be a good start
[07:23] <hendrixski> linux_manju, cool.  wiki's are probably a better layout for me than the book on the tigris site
[07:23] <delude> Q: Why does sound distort at relatively low levels (compared to windows) in all players? Any way to fix this?
[07:23] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> oh, last time I just did the command X
[07:24] <OrgulloKmoore> (I don't know much...)
[07:24] <Cubey> well, i got 6.10 installed but now there's no sound :|
[07:24] <linux_manju> hendrixski: Well to start with yes.. But once you are in full fledge you might consider looking at the tigris book
[07:24] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, that might be the problem. startx also initiates some other important stuff. use startx in the future.
[07:24] <relativeownershi> majorjrk, the alternate cd seems to be working fine
[07:24] <OrgulloKmoore> ok
[07:26] <younghacker> does anyone know how to fix my software indexes?
[07:26] <younghacker> it says there broken
[07:26] <neverblue> it?
[07:26] <younghacker> yes apt-get says that
[07:27] <younghacker> i was trying to dpkg a deb package
[07:27] <younghacker> then the console outputted that i needed to install the dependencies
[07:27] <younghacker> so i apt-get them
[07:27] <relativeownershi> try sudo apt-get update
[07:27] <younghacker> then the update icon popped up ,, and when i went to update i got the error message
[07:27] <relativeownershi> younghacker, try sudo apt-get update
[07:27] <younghacker> ok
[07:28] <bullgard4> After upgrading from 6.10 Ubuntu 7.04 does Gnome_Search_Tool no longer offer the item 'file system' in the field 'Search directory'. How can I change that?
[07:28] <woodwizzle> I have onboard sound, and a sound card. However everytime I reboot, the primary device switches from one to the other. I just want to use my sound card always and forget onboard. :(
[07:28] <mattva01> hmm
[07:28] <mneptok> woodwizzle: disable the on-board in the BIOS
[07:29] <younghacker> i still get the error message from synaptic
[07:29] <woodwizzle> mneptok, My BIOS isn't that fancy
[07:29] <relativeownershi> younghacker, did you close synaptic before you ran the command?
[07:29] <younghacker> yes
[07:29] <younghacker> synaptic is closed now
[07:29] <relativeownershi> younghacker, run synaptic from a terminal
[07:29] <younghacker> ok
[07:29] <jumbers> Nobody knows?
[07:29] <relativeownershi> younghacker, we need more information on what the problem is
[07:30] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> mkay, where is the log supposed to be now?
[07:30] <relativeownershi> /var/log/boot
[07:30] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, /var/log/boot. it should be a text file.
[07:30] <younghacker> ok synaptic says i have one broken package,,, the xml editor that i just attempted to install
[07:30] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> (Nothing has been logged yet.)
[07:30] <relativeownershi> younghacker, so if you can give us exactly the error messages that synaptic is returning we'll know better what to do.
[07:30] <OrgulloKmoore> that didn't work...
[07:31] <younghacker> ok
[07:31] <younghacker> hold up
[07:31] <younghacker> lemme get
[07:31] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, is there no boot file?
[07:32] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, did you try to open it with sudo?
[07:32] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, try running this command form a terminal:
[07:32] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, sudo gedit /var/log/boott
[07:32] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> yes, the file is there, but it says what I pasted
[07:32] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, well, without the extra "t" in boot
[07:32] <rsc___> how do I find out what files are contained in a certain installed package?
[07:32] <OrgulloKmoore> (Nothing has been logged yet.)
[07:32] <younghacker> ou have 1 broken package on your system!
[07:32] <younghacker> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
[07:32] <rsc___> say, I want to know what files the 'gimp' package has installed.
[07:32] <younghacker> When i open synaptic i get this
[07:32] <KI4IKL> How can I get my gnome panel to NOT show kde apps?
[07:32] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> do you think the fact that I typed "Yes" (to contrast "No") rather than "yes" (lowercase) made a difference?
[07:33] <woodwizzle> I know about the sound dialog in my system menu, but it doesn't seem to help me define my default sound card
[07:33] <relativeownershi> younghacker, ok. for future reference within your irc thing you can specify a message sent to me by typing a part of my username and hitting "tab" that way i can separate it from everybody else's chatter
[07:33] <OrgulloKmoore> (the forum says change it to "yes")
[07:33] <OrgulloKmoore> but it seems trivial...
[07:33] <lazellama> why is truecrypt doin this? http://pastebin.com/m5e29f04c
[07:33] <younghacker> ohh
[07:33] <younghacker> sorry i didn't know
[07:33] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, hrm. i don' tknow.
[07:33] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, well linux is case sensitive, heh
[07:33] <younghacker> relativeownershi: so only u see this one?
[07:33] <OrgulloKmoore> I suppose it won't hurt to try
[07:33] <relativeownershi> younghacker, i can see them all but that one is highlighted in red
[07:33] <younghacker> or you just know it's for you
[07:34] <relativeownershi> see how this next one is not highlighted?
[07:34] <younghacker> ohhh cool
[07:34] <OrgulloKmoore> but "Yes" is the opposite of "No"
[07:34] <younghacker> yes i see no
[07:34] <younghacker> w
[07:34] <relativeownershi> younghacker, <nosd> cool. one minute.
[07:34] <younghacker> relativeownershi: ok
[07:34] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, you did a full restart yes, not a quick restart?
[07:35] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> the difference?
[07:35] <relativeownershi> younghacker, now where were we? oh yeah. so what's the ultimate problem that's occuring on your system.
[07:35] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, quick restart is when you restart the x server only. it won't log anything in the boot log.
[07:35] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, a full restart is where you see your bios splash and all that fun stuff, grub, etc.
[07:36] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, or you can even power cycle to ensure everything is starting fresh
[07:36] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> yes, I got to see all that stuff
[07:36] <OrgulloKmoore> I even saw the errors I'm trying to let you see
[07:36] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, ok. try to change it to 'yes' and reboot again. i'm just trying to get ahold of a log of your errors so i can try to figure out whats causing them.
[07:36] <younghacker> relativeownershi: ok right now i am trying to fix my broken packages ,, i think , man i don't really kmnow,, all i know is i tried to install something it said that it had dependencies that were not installed and i went to install them and next thing i get is errors
[07:37] <younghacker> relativeownershi: Software index is broken
[07:37] <younghacker> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[07:37] <relativeownershi> younghacker, what were you trying to install
[07:37] <younghacker> an xml editor
[07:37] <relativeownershi> younghacker, you know i had a similiar problem
[07:37] <younghacker> really?
[07:38] <relativeownershi> younghacker, trying to install some 3rd party crap. i learned quick to stay in the repos.
[07:38] <younghacker> lol
[07:38] <younghacker> jeez
[07:38] <relativeownershi> younghacker, but here. go into synaptic and find the software that's broken. mark all the broken packages for complete removal.
[07:38] <felixhummel> does anybody know gopchop? is there a successor of some kind?
[07:38] <felixhummel> how do you split large mpeg files?
[07:38] <younghacker> relativeownershi: I've done that and it stays for some reason.. im not sure
[07:40] <relativeownershi> younghacker, well if i can find out what it says i might be able to help more
[07:40] <younghacker> so i have 2 programs that just won't go anywhere now blue fish and the xml editor ,,, the xml editor gives messages about dependencies and that it can't configure the program
[07:41] <relativeownershi> younghacker, is what you were trying to install available in the repositories?
[07:41] <relativeownershi> younghacker, or were you using a 3rd party repository
[07:41] <younghacker> umm no,, i got it from a deb site
[07:41] <younghacker> it was an ubuntu site
[07:41] <younghacker> umm i think i can get the address
[07:41] <younghacker> brb
[07:41] <younghacker> relativeownershi: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1153
[07:41] <nkbreau> does 7.04 only  have a subset of beryl ?
[07:41] <nkbreau> if not how do i find a config screen ?
[07:42] <nkbreau> so i can properly configure the cube and stuff
[07:42] <nkbreau> and how can i start emerald ?
[07:43] <relativeownershi> younghacker, pastebin the error messages that occur when you try to do what you want to do
[07:43] <younghacker> umm i've never used pastebin before
[07:43] <relativeownershi> younghacker, oh sorry - here's a link
[07:44] <younghacker> no prob man no worries,,
[07:44] <younghacker> i just don't want to have to take my postgresql server down and reinstall ubuntu
[07:44] <relativeownershi> younghacker, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ basically just paste in the terminal output with the error messages
[07:44] <younghacker> ok can do
[07:44] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> yeah, nothing
[07:45] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, argh. well - they don't seem to be keeping you from running a functional desktop. try to figure out why the boot log isn't working. when you know what error messages it's giving, you can probbaly get more help
[07:46] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> I already know the error message :p
[07:46] <OrgulloKmoore> I memorized it by now
[07:46] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, what is it then lol
[07:46] <OrgulloKmoore> /etc/event.d/tty1 Unknown stanza 16
[07:46] <OrgulloKmoore> and it repeats that from tty1 to tty6
[07:46] <jrattner1> QUESTION: If I run an e-mail server, what is a simple way to keep a record of sent and recieved mailed (or back up)
[07:46] <OrgulloKmoore> and then it says "xorg/rules" not found in any known directory
[07:47] <OrgulloKmoore> and then it says "Not starting GNOME desktop (gtm); it is the default _something__", this appears by a red star, while the rest of the messages are white
[07:47] <OrgulloKmoore> and then that's it
[07:49] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> this is what line 16 says: /sbin/getty 38400 tty1exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[07:49] <OrgulloKmoore> "ttyl" means "Talk to ya later" as far as I'm concerned :DD
[07:49] <Drakeson> where is emacs? (not emacs21)
[07:49] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, try dpkg --configure -a
[07:50] <Selrach> when it comes to using virtualization technology, does the BIOS have to support it, or just the processor?
[07:50] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> kyle@kyle:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:50] <OrgulloKmoore> kyle@kyle:~$
[07:50] <OrgulloKmoore> (nothin)
[07:51] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, no that means that the command completed w/o errors
[07:51] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, which is good
[07:51] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, oh lol! look at this, about halfway down:
[07:51] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/95210
[07:51] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, there's supposed to be a space between tty1 and exec on line 16
[07:51] <ServerCrash> hi, anyone in here exited about the MPX, Multi Point X Server , similar to MS surface computing
[07:52] <ServerCrash> I am thinking of testing it out, trying to understand what hardwares are required for same
[07:53] <relativeownershi> younghacker, you stiill here?
[07:53] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> hmm..and how do you suppose that got misplaced_
[07:53] <OrgulloKmoore> ?
[07:53] <n4t> hi all
[07:53] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, i don't know, looks like it might have been a coding error
[07:53] <n4t> how can I disable a wifi card... I have tried with ifconfig but after some time it becames up
[07:54] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, maybe after an update or some such ness
[07:54] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> probably
[07:54] <OrgulloKmoore> but, restarting after fixing...
[07:54] <valehru> what needs to be installed to view videos video/divx in mozilla firefox?
[07:55] <n4t> how can I disable a wireless card?
[07:55] <valehru> n4t, sudo ifdown eth1
[07:56] <egWK> Hey guys I installed manually seamonkey but I can't see any icon creating for it (it had an installer :P) is this normal?
[07:56] <zyth> is there some application I can use to back up my system to DVD like Norton Ghost?
[07:57] <n4t> valehru: if I do that after a while it becames up ....
[07:57] <Selrach> how do I find out if my BIOS supports virtualization for use with zen?
[07:57] <valehru> n4t, if you want to stop all networking just do sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[07:57] <OrgulloKmoore> didn't change a thing, relativeownershi
[07:57] <Cubey> lordy
[07:57] <Cubey> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[07:57] <n4t> valehru:no only one interface
[07:58] <Cubey> Attempting to upgrade to 7.04 from 6.10 via GUI and I get that error :/
[07:58] <valehru> n4t, sudo ifdown eth1 should kill that interface
[07:58] <n4t> it's possible to not load the driver at boot
[07:58] <n4t> of that interface?
[07:58] <valehru> n4t, edit the /etc/network/interfaces file
[07:58] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, hrm.
[07:59] <valehru> n4t, remove all references to eth1
[07:59] <valehru> n4t, then sudo /etc/init.d/networking force-reload
[07:59] <OrgulloKmoore> I'm not worried about it, as long as my computer works
[07:59] <relativeownershi> pastebin the file you're looking at with the error at line 16
[07:59] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, see last message
[07:59] <valehru> n4t, then /etc/init.d/networking/restart
[08:00] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> there are 6, but they are identical aside from the order in which they call each other
[08:00] <n4t> valehru:  that interface is called ra0 and in that file is not present
[08:00] <valehru> n4t, eth1 is your wifi right?
[08:00] <P-K> Hello. I am trying to use the live cd and I am not getting very far. I have a new laptop with intel core2 duo. It's an acer 5920G. It loads the kernel and starts to boot but then it says PCI failed to allocate mem resource. Loading, please wait.. and hangs.
[08:00] <n4t> no... ra0
[08:00] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, are you able to pastebin the file?
[08:00] <n4t> I have a ralink wireless... and ubuntu call that interface ra0
[08:00] <P-K> I have searched google and tried lots of different cheatcodes and I still can't get it to boot.
[08:00] <x89x> hello
[08:00] <OrgulloKmoore> sure
[08:01] <valehru> n4t, then sudo ifdown ra0
[08:01] <x89x> can anyone help me with my video driver ??????
[08:01] <n4t> valehru: I have done it for now is kiled
[08:01] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30240/
[08:01] <n4t> but after a while
[08:01] <valehru> n4t, if that interfaces file does not exist then you are not running an ubuntu system!
[08:01] <n4t> is present in ifconfig
[08:02] <n4t> valehru: is present the file.... but there' isn't ra0 inside the file
[08:02] <ryanakca> you can set up LVM using the DVD installer, correct?
[08:02] <valehru> n4t, no clue then....your system is boinked....
[08:02] <P-K> also BusyBox pops up at the end and states /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[08:02] <P-K> can anyone help?
[08:03] <n4t> so?
[08:03] <royel> P-K: your using Fiesty Fawn?
[08:03] <x89x> anyone ?? can anyone help me ?
[08:03] <P-K> oh yeah sorry. Fiesty Fawn.
[08:03] <Cubey> anyone?
[08:04] <P-K> I tried both 64bit and 32bit and get the same results. I looks like some sort of hardware compatability issue.
[08:04] <n4t> valehru: so what I have to do?
[08:04] <HEP85> Cubey: "sudo apt-get clean" and then try again
[08:04] <royel> P-K: someone else was in here a bit ago with the same problem, I'd suggest trying a prior release an see how that goes, seems there is some issue with it mounting or detecting partitions, it's pretty random it seems.
[08:04] <x89x> can anyone help me with my dirvers ??
[08:05] <P-K> I wonder if it's the kernel. I will try and earlier version.
[08:05] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, you there?
[08:05] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30241/
[08:05] <royel> P-K: I wish I could tell you something more concrete, I googled for a while on this earlier an everything I turned up about it lead to there not being any suggestions for resolving it.
[08:05] <lorx> Can anyone tell me why i get this error when i try to mount a newly partitioned harddrive: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[08:05] <lorx>    I use: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /home/lorx/200gb         I used gparted to get it formatted into a ext3 drive. What am I doing wrong?
[08:06] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> I have to do what now?
[08:06] <Cubey> HEP85, no dice
[08:06] <P-K> royel: Yeah me to. Thanks for answering though.
[08:06] <royel> P-K: :)
[08:06] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> oh, nevermind, I see
[08:06] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, make the code look like the pastebin
[08:06] <OrgulloKmoore> the location is repeated twice, eh
[08:06] <HEP85> Cubey: any details on that error? maybe the server is overloaded at the moment
[08:07] <royel> lorx: is it formatted?
[08:07] <XitroX> can somebody help me with a raid1? I've setup one at installation but now when boot with only one hdd it's not starting. what could i do? (saying md0 assembled with 1 out of 2 but not started)
[08:07] <snowglobe> I'm using ubuntu 7.04, and I'm trying to install Thunderbird 2.0 over Thunderbird 1.5. How do I do that?
[08:07] <Cubey> HEP85, nope
[08:07] <kupesoft> Is there any advantage over using the server kernel on a "headed" server that does occasionally run GNOME.
[08:08] <kupesoft> I'm looking at BenC...
[08:08] <lorx> royel, guess so, it says ext3 under filesystem, and i choose "format into ext3" in GParted
[08:08] <royel> lorx: also, seems that something like: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdbx /home/lorx/200gb  <-- where x is the partition number
[08:09] <lorx> royel, heh, damn, that worked, thanks mayn :)
[08:09] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: can you type "sudo apt-get install thunderbird" into the terminal?
[08:09] <royel> lorx: yw
[08:10] <Cubey> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[08:10] <Cubey> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[08:10] <OrgulloKmoore> indeed you were right, relativeownershi
[08:10] <Cubey> that's what it says. it says it twice
[08:10] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: I'll try that, But i belive that it just installs the one that is in the repos, version 1.5
[08:10] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, did it worK?
[08:10] <OrgulloKmoore> yep
[08:10] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, no more error messages?
[08:11] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: darn. alright, in that case you'll have to go to the site, and download the source code. try typing "sudo apt-get build-dep thunderbird"
[08:11] <lorx> Royel, hm.. how do i get writing permission in that mount?
[08:11] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> no more. There is still the one that says not running Gnome because it's not the default display system, but I don't think that's an error. The "xorg/rules" one went away with the others
[08:11] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: Actually, it said that there was no installation candidate
[08:12] <royel> lorx: who owns the mount point?
[08:12] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: and i'm sure i spelled it right too...
[08:12] <BenC> kupesoft: if most of the loads needs non-interactive scheduling, then I suggest -server kernel
[08:12] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, sweetness. is gnome not your default environment?
[08:12] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, do you run kubuntu?
[08:13] <lorx> royel, if you mean the directory 200gb, then 'lorx' my user is the owner.
[08:13] <royel> lorx: as a quick guess, you might try: chmod 777 /home/lorx/200gb
[08:13] <jrattner1> Does webmin work for ubuntu'"?
[08:13] <Pici> !webmin
[08:13] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[08:14] <OrgulloKmoore> relativeownershi> Well, it's hard to say. It was originall Kubuntu, but i had a problem about a month ago and we did something of a ghetto upgrade, and the person who lead me through it didn't know I had kubuntu, so we upgraded to ubuntu, from kubuntu. I'm sure my computer is as confused as I am
[08:14] <compengi> !automatix
[08:14] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:14] <OrgulloKmoore> I use programs from both...
[08:14] <OrgulloKmoore> Konqueror is my file manager
[08:14] <lorx> royel, again thanks, worked out :)
[08:14] <royel> lorx: sorry, I am not in the habit of using sudo, as I normally only admin on servers with root, that would be: sudo chmod 777 /home/lorx/200gb
[08:14] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: it said "unable to find a source package for sudo apt-get build-dep thunderbird"
[08:14] <royel> lorx: :)
[08:14] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, heh sounds like fun
[08:14] <OrgulloKmoore> indeed
[08:14] <OrgulloKmoore> thanks, relativeownershi
[08:15] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, you might be benefitted from a reinstall - you can also run both in different partitions
[08:15] <relativeownershi> OrgulloKmoore, and keep in mind you can indeed have both installed. my system has both kde and gnome installed, plus xfce (a lighter desktop enviro)
[08:15] <lorx> royel, hehe, yeah I figured that out, even thou i'm one hell of a newbie :>
[08:15] <OrgulloKmoore> Yep, I have both. Getting used to Gnome
[08:16] <royel> lorx: sounds as if your gonna be one hell of a linux user then :)
[08:16] <kupesoft> BenC: And supposing I don't know what non-interactive scheduling is?
[08:17] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: where are programs installed to in ubuntu?
[08:17] <x89x> anyine ??
[08:17] <x89x> please help
[08:17] <Toma-> x89x: whats the problem?
[08:17] <compengi> !ask | x89x
[08:17] <ubotu> x89x: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:17] <x89x> http://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/linux/how-to-via-k8m890-chrome-9-igp-and-linuxs-xorg-ubuntu-edgy-610/
[08:18] <BusMaster> what is apic and what happens if i boot with the noapic option?
[08:18] <lorx> royel, hehe, hopes so one day :>
[08:18] <XitroX> can somebody help me with a raid1? I've setup one at installation but now when boot with only one hdd it's not starting. what could i do? (saying md0 assembled with 1 out of 2 but not started)
[08:18] <x89x> is taht my driver ?? for via deltachrome ??
[08:18] <Toma-> x89x: unichrome, yes
[08:19] <P-K> royel: I found a workaround. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500418&highlight=can%27t+access+tty+job+control+turned+off
[08:19] <P-K> Just incase someone else asks.
[08:19] <x89x> i'm on ubuntu 7.04
[08:19] <x89x> toma
[08:19] <x89x> will it work ?
[08:19] <BusMaster> my laptop won't boot unless I pass the noapic option. I wantto know the consequences of booting with noapic
[08:19] <Toma-> x89x: thats fine. dont use this guide tho....
[08:19] <x89x> how do i do it toma ?
[08:20] <x89x> i am new to linux toma !
[08:20] <x89x> can u help me toma ?
[08:20] <Toma-> x89x: if anything, find the unichrome driver and install it via synaptic or apt-get then just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select unichrome as thedriver
[08:20] <Toma-> x89x: if i cant, someone here will. also, try to cram as much as you can into 1 line rather than using enter over and over and over again :)
[08:21] <RoC_MasterMind> I have a script I need to run before X/GNOME starts.  I put it in /etc/rc1.d/ as S99.sh but I never see it running....GNOME goes ahead and starts....will /etc/rc.local make it start then?  It needs to come before GNOME and is interactive.
[08:21] <snowglobe> argh! pirates are coming!
[08:21] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: is it X based?
[08:21] <RoC_MasterMind> No...it's a shell script.
[08:22] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: never mind that. /etc/rc.local is for what you want
[08:22] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: also, /etc/rc.local is basically a shell script too... hint hint :D
[08:22] <RoC_MasterMind> Is that script backgrounded, or run in the foreground....I can't have X come up until after my script is done.
[08:23] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: I see. I cant remember where it gets run now that GDM has been bought forward in the boot sequence
[08:24] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: trial and error?
[08:24] <x89x> Toma
[08:24] <Toma-> x89x
[08:24] <x89x> i searched in synaptic
[08:24] <Toma-> !enter | x89x
[08:24] <ubotu> x89x: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:24] <RoC_MasterMind> I'll try it.
[08:25] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: if that doesnt work, its easy enough to make a rc level specific script
[08:25] <x89x> Toma It says X.Org X server -- Savage display driver as installed version. and thers one X.Org X server -- VIA display driver  which is not installed
[08:25] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: sorry about that. i'd check something like http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102 (i got that from googling "linux filesystem") have you gone to www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird to grab the source?
[08:25] <x89x> but i'm using VESA atm. what do i do ??
[08:25] <Toma-> x89x: you need both 'xserver-xorg-unichrome' and 'xserver-xorg-via' i do believe
[08:26] <Toma-> x89x: vesa is rock solid but doesnt have very good resolutions :(
[08:26] <Myke`> I'm a total noob to ubuntu/linux and would like to run dual screens. I have an nvidia fx6200 card. I got easily confused reading things online on how to do it. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[08:26] <Krazubu> I'm running linux for the 1st time and I would need some help about installing an ATI X1600 driver
[08:26] <Ailean> is there anything different to note about dual-booting ubuntu with vista as opposed to XP?
[08:26] <jumbers> Is there any voice modulation software available for Ubuntu so that I can modify my voice before it reaches Skype?
[08:26] <x89x> Toma SHould i download the X.Org X server -- VIA display driver  package too ?
[08:26] <RoC_MasterMind> Toma-, OK, I'll be back.  Thanks.
[08:26] <Toma-> x89x: sure. cant hurt
[08:26] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: np. cya soon
[08:26] <RoC_MasterMind> !dual-boot Ailean
[08:27] <Ailean> jumbers that's just creepy
[08:27] <RoC_MasterMind> !dual-boot| Ailean
[08:27] <ubotu> Ailean: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:27] <jumbers> Ailean: Not really, I want to disguise my voice
[08:27] <RoC_MasterMind> There might be some notes there about Vista.
[08:27] <massctrl> hello I want to debootstrap ubuntu as a domU on my debian xen server.  where can I get the scripts for it (the ones for /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/)?
[08:27] <Toma-> jumbers: sure. just use jack to patch up some connections and use that jack wrapper program (cant remember what it is
[08:27] <erUSUL> !install | massctrl
[08:27] <ubotu> massctrl: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[08:28] <jumbers> Toma-: I don't entirely understand what you mean
[08:28] <Ailean> does anyone have any additional tips about dual-booting with vista?
[08:28] <Myke`> I'm a total noob to ubuntu/linux and would like to run dual screens. I have an nvidia fx6200 card. I got easily confused reading things online on how to do it. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[08:28] <kupesoft> How can I check information about whether fsck will run for a disk?
[08:28] <x89x> Toma. i installed the package. what do i do now ??
[08:29] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: sorry, I was away (a guy's gotta eat...) anyway, I've got the source, but I don't know how to install it.
[08:29] <Toma-> jumbers: youll need 'jack' 'qjackctl' and some other tools... just google jack :D
[08:29] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: cool. where'd you download the file to?
[08:29] <jumbers> Toma-: How will Skype pick up the modified sound though?
[08:30] <Toma-> x89x: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select unichrome or via as thedriver
[08:30] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: /home/kevin
[08:30] <Toma-> jumbers: you need 'jack-rack' to run a realtime effect on the sound
[08:30] <Kohvihoor> hi
[08:30] <x89x> Toma. theres no unichrome option !
[08:31] <Kohvihoor> i have radeon 9200 and i think i don't have any hardware acceleration
[08:31] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: open up the terminal, and type "tar -xvvf *.tar.gz"
[08:31] <jumbers> Toma-: Is the base program called jackeq? Because that was in Synaptic
[08:31] <_Lucretia_> can anybody help me out with getting 32 bit compiles to work on feisty?
[08:31] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: open /home/kevin/thunderbird? or /home/kevin?
[08:31] <Toma-> jumbers: might work. doubt it tho. you need something that "steals" skypes alsa connection then rewires it to jack
[08:32] <jumbers> Toma-: And what would that be?
[08:32] <Toma-> jumbers: 1 moment
[08:32] <jumbers> Toma-: Okay
[08:32] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: that depends on where the .tar.gz file is
[08:32] <Yasumoto> if it's in its own directory, then do it there
[08:32] <x89x> Toma via didnt work before yesterday when i tried ! Has it been changed now ?
[08:32] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: oh...
[08:32] <Toma-> _Lucretia_: hu? what have you compiled and whats the problem?
[08:33] <Yasumoto> if you type "ls" you'll see a list of all the files in your current directory
[08:33] <Toma-> x89x: probably not...
[08:33] <x89x> toma theres no Unichrome option :(
[08:33] <Yasumoto> and "pwd" will Pring Working Directory
[08:33] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: oh, i've already estracted it
[08:33] <jrattner1> Question: How do I have a users's sent and recieved e-mail forwarded to another address besides theirs (to create a back up)
[08:33] <Yasumoto> oh, kk
[08:33] <Yasumoto> alright
[08:33] <Yasumoto> cd into the directory
[08:33] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: it's now all expanded in /home/kevin/thunderbird
[08:34] <Yasumoto> cd ~/thunderbird
[08:34] <Yasumoto> you want to find a readme file
[08:34] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: was that bad?
[08:34] <Yasumoto> nope
[08:34] <Yasumoto> that's exactly right, actually
[08:34] <lan1g1r0> any advice on getting opera running on feisty?
[08:35] <Yasumoto> but now we need to move into that directory, and figure out how to compile the program
[08:35] <Toma-> x89x: what unichrome chip do you have?
[08:35] <Yasumoto> (if i'm saying something that isn't clear, lemme know)
[08:35] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: ok
[08:35] <x89x> VIA deltachrome IGP Toma
[08:35] <_Lucretia_> Toma-: not compiled anything, it won't...basically on 64-bit, need to compile some 32-bit stuff, just opengl/glx/x samples from nehe without having to go through and port them. get an error regarding this (gnu/stubs-32.h) not being available
[08:36] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: this is what the readme contains (and i've been to that website, nothing there) For information about installing, running and configuring Thunderbird
[08:36] <snowglobe> including a list of known issues and troubleshooting information,
[08:36] <snowglobe> refer to: http://getthunderbird.com/releases/
[08:36] <cyberphaz> what do i need to enabke the desktop effects? it says composite extention not available but libxcomposite1 is installed?
[08:36] <Toma-> _Lucretia_: on a 64bit system, you will have 64bit development files. to compile for a 32bit system, you need 32bit development files.
[08:36] <Toma-> _Lucretia_: long story short, either get a 32bit chroot or a nice little qemu install
[08:37] <Toma-> keeps a tidy system
[08:37] <FreeFull> cyberphaz, do you have ati graphics card?
[08:37] <cyberphaz> yep
[08:37] <cyberphaz> fgrlx installed too
[08:38] <x89x> Toma VIA DeltaChrome IGP
[08:38] <Toma-> x89x: ok
[08:38] <x89x> Toma : now ?
[08:38] <Toma-> what?
[08:39] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: i'm at work using cygwin (it's a unix-like environment in windows, basically). but i just downloaded the source, lemme look through it really quick
[08:39] <Baron_Erkan> halo can someone hear me
[08:39] <FreeFull> cyberphaz, http://www.kittypee.com/2007/05/07/desktop-effects-on-ubuntu-feisty-ati-beryl/ this should help
[08:39] <Baron_Erkan> halo?
[08:39] <_Lucretia_> Toma-: qemu != for 3D
[08:39] <Baron_Erkan> did the registration work????
[08:39] <XitroX> can somebody help me with a raid1? I've setup one at installation but now when boot with only one hdd it's not starting. what could i do? (saying md0 assembled with 1 out of 2 but not started)
[08:39] <cyberphaz> ugh i have to install beryl to make it work despite that its by default in the gnome menu?
[08:39] <Toma-> _Lucretia_: you can compile on it tho
[08:40] <Baron_Erkan> can someone help me with configure wlan
[08:40] <_Lucretia_> Toma-: but there are supposed to be dev deb's for 32 bit under 64, but they're not there
[08:40] <toryl__> !anyone | Baron_Erkan
[08:40] <ubotu> Baron_Erkan: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:40] <cyberphaz> ow i see thanks
[08:40] <FreeFull> cyberphaz, you actually don't have to install beryl if you have it installed.
[08:41] <Baron_Erkan> Does Anybody know how to configure wlan in ubuntu ???? i only wanna join my router....
[08:41] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: ok
[08:41] <tristil> Baron_Erkan, are you on Feisty?
[08:41] <Baron_Erkan> what is feisty?
[08:42] <tristil> Baron_Erkan, most recent Ubuntu.
[08:42] <systemd0wn> Question, USB to Serial adapter is not working, dmesg shows that it was recognized and is now /dev/ttyUSB0 but when i use cutecom or cat i dont see anything
[08:42] <Baron_Erkan> pls tell me how to configure network i mean ive a wlan but it doesnt appear with roaming mode of corse it is pw secured...
[08:42] <erUSUL> !wifi | Baron_Erkan
[08:42] <ubotu> Baron_Erkan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:42] <FreeFull> Baron_Erkan, Feisty is the newest version of ubuntu
[08:42] <neverblue> anyone know javascript, looking for a URL that is a good resource of info on the topic?
[08:43] <tristil> Baron_Erkan, Feisty's support for wireless is much better.
[08:43] <FreeFull> neverblue, http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp
[08:44] <RoC_MasterMind> Toma-, script does not run as /etc/rc.local...marked executable. :-(
[08:44] <Baron_Erkan> waaaaaaaaaaaaaa yeah it may be better but i dont have internet connection with my desktop so how i should do this feisty thing da
[08:44] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: if you're still in /home/kevin/thunderbird, type "./thunderbird"
[08:44] <Baron_Erkan> i mean desktop pc...
[08:44] <neverblue> FreeFull, already been over it, I was looking for a reference
[08:44] <Baron_Erkan> ok i give up and return to windoofs......
[08:44] <Baron_Erkan> cu
[08:44] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: tried just putting the script in /usr/local/bin then adding its location to rc.local?
[08:44] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: oh!
[08:44] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: yay
[08:45] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: where will that install it to though?
[08:45] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: I don't want it installed to /home/kevin
[08:45] <RoC_MasterMind> Toma-, like ". /usr/local/bin/myscript.sh" to rc.local?
[08:45] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: i'd like it to be installed over thunderbird 1.5 (if possible)
[08:45] <RoC_MasterMind> or just "/usr/local/bin/myscript.sh"
[08:45] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: just 'myscript.sh'
[08:45] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/18/manually-install-thunderbird-2-ubuntu-704/
[08:45] <Toma-> (i suspect)
[08:46] <Toma-> x89x: doing a little investigating on your video card.... seems it doesnt work in linux :O
[08:47] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: that should be good. check the link at the bottom of the post too
[08:47] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: ok, what does /opt mean?
[08:47] <amexa_> how do i connect to amule??
[08:47] <dswillia74437> ok simple question, hope its a simple error.  I have a directory that is not showing up as a directory, its actually showing up as a file.  Is there a command to tell ubuntu to see it as a directory?
[08:47] <systemd0wn> Question, USB to Serial adapter is not working, dmesg shows that it was recognized and is now /dev/ttyUSB0 but when i use cutecom or cat i dont see anything
[08:48] <`Matir> systemd0wn, what is it connected to?
[08:48] <amexa_> hi
[08:48] <toryl__> amexa_: what are you having trouble with?
[08:48] <systemd0wn> `Matir, its a WRAP motherboard.
[08:48] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: it's just the name of a directory (Optional application software packages)
[08:48] <x89x> Toma can i just change the screen refresh rate then ??
[08:48] <amexa_> i have a question: when i enable desktop effects, the upper bar of the windows disappear
[08:48] <Toma-> x89x: you can try
[08:49] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: oh
[08:49] <amexa_> the bar with the buttons to maximize, minimize and close
[08:49] <Toma-> x89x: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:49] <`Matir> systemd0wn, are you sure the motherboard is outputting something on the serial?
[08:49] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: my /opt is empty
[08:49] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: is it supposed to be?
[08:50] <systemd0wn> `Matir, ya i can plug it into a windows computer and it works, i have tried 2 adapters and get the same result.  I have used it in Ubuntu 6.06 a while back, recently dug it out of a box and its not working
[08:50] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: I think it's fine. it just means you haven't installed anything there yet
[08:50] <`Matir> systemd0wn, odd... got the right parity/timing/etc settings?
[08:51] <systemd0wn> `Matir, ya
[08:51] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: will it erase thunderbird 1.5, but keep the settings?
[08:51] <Yasumoto> that's the plan
[08:51] <snowglobe> ok
[08:51] <`Matir> systemd0wn, odd... tried the adapters on the windows box?
[08:51] <Yasumoto> your settings should be saved in ~/.thunderbird
[08:52] <misstajah> Question: i installed nvidia-drivers-new (or something alike) and now my ubuntu won't start. it loads and everything but when X starts, it reboots :S Ideas? Thx in advance
[08:52] <systemd0wn> `Matir, hah. no i havent i should... but that one JUST got formatted and SUSE is now intsalled
[08:52] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: it says to install it to /usr/local/bin
[08:53] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: but there is nothing in there, so where do all the programs get installed to?
[08:53] <`Matir> systemd0wn, ah... have you tried minicom?
[08:53] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: ....maybe they are hidden
[08:53] <RoC_MasterMind> ok, Toma- it's running, it was running just in /etc/rc.local...but I didn't notice till X closed....It needs to run before X starts, and block X from starting.
[08:53] <Yasumoto> misstajah: you need to reconfigure your xorg.conf file (located in /etc/X11 )
[08:53] <Toma-> jumbers: you still here?
[08:53] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: have you installed it already?
[08:53] <fuzzy_logic> misstajah: what do you mean, it reboots? the computer starts up again??
[08:54] <misstajah> fuzzy_logic: yes, just like u said
[08:54] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: Oh.
[08:54] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: no, i wanna make sure that i don't lose all my stuff, i've got lots of important junk
[08:54] <Toma-> well then.
[08:54] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: so do i just follow that guide?
[08:54] <fuzzy_logic> misstajah: but when it reboots you can use your desktop and everything?
[08:54] <misstajah> Yasumoto what should i setup in xorg.conf file?
[08:54] <systemd0wn> `Matir, ya minicom didnt work.  Im going to try it on SUSE in a min
[08:55] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: I'm still learning, as you could probably tell...
[08:55] <misstajah> fuzzy_logic nope, it won't even show up any X window nor login screen, nothing
[08:55] <Yasumoto> snowglobe: a)the reason it's empty is because nothing's installed there yet b)so long as you leave your /home directory alone, your settings'll be fine c)yep, follow the guide. d) haha, don't worry. we're all still learning. :)
[08:55] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: this is the easiest thing to do... edit the gdm init file
[08:55] <snowglobe> Yasumoto: lol, ty
[08:55] <RoC_MasterMind> sounds like it Toma-
[08:55] <MrTsunami> life is a perpetual process of learning
[08:55] <fuzzy_logic> misstajah: try to press alt+f2 when it reboots, see if you get some errors
[08:55] <MrTsunami> :)
[08:56] <Toma-> RoC_MasterMind: theres probably a more sane way, but really, if you need to stop X, gdm init is the thing that will do that
[08:56] <misstajah> fuzzy_logic after it reboots or before? i mean, if it reboots, nothing comes rite? :S
[08:56] <Yasumoto> misstajah: i tried to play around with my ati drivers, and totally screwed over my xserver. it may be a different problem, but all that I really remember is typing "man xorg.conf" and trying to read/understand enough to fix it
[08:56] <misstajah> oh
[08:56] <Yasumoto> misstajah: lemme see if i can find something online
[08:56] <misstajah> thnx Yasumoto
[08:58] <_Scout> Can anyone suggest a brand of desktops?
[08:58] <FreeFull> HP?
[08:58] <PointyThingsHurt> Greetings #Ubuntu
[08:58] <preaction> _Scout, assemble your own using parts from pricewatch.com <- what i usually do
[08:59] <preaction> _Scout, otherwise, Dell sells a line of ubuntu-loaded desktops and laptops now
[08:59] <_Scout> preaction, I am shopping for a friend.
[08:59] <_Scout> He wants something for gaming and music.
[08:59] <_Scout> So ubuntu isn't a needed factor (though I am partitioning his drive when he gets the computer.
[09:00] <FreeFull> For gaming buy a Windows XP PC.
[09:00] <preaction> _Scout, but this is an ubuntu channel. the ubuntu support channel.
[09:00] <preaction> !offtopic
[09:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:00] <_Scout> Heh, alright.
[09:00] <preaction> and you'd be surprised at the amount of support for games wine has these days
[09:01] <Anlar> and the amount of the BEST games that have problems
[09:01] <_Scout> It supports WoW now I hear.
[09:01] <Szeraax> linux does?
[09:02] <_Scout> Linux with Wine does.
[09:02] <Szeraax> ah
[09:02] <Szeraax> dang, i want native...
[09:02] <Szeraax> oh well, off to go tinker with wine...
[09:02] <wizek> Are there anyone here who knows how to install succesfuly an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS to Ubuntu 7.04 (kernel: 2.6.20-15-generic). I tried follow a lot of manuals, howtos, but nothing was good enough... I have error messages all time about it cannot load GDM, if I edit xorg.conf...
[09:02] <cyberphaz> im playing wow on cedega
[09:02] <Anlar> "native" ?
[09:02] <Geminias> hello?
[09:02] <cyberphaz> right now
[09:02] <preaction> "native" <- without the wine compatibility libs
[09:02] <Geminias> can ppl hear me now
[09:02] <preaction> !hi | Geminias
[09:02] <ubotu> Geminias: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:03] <Anlar> preaction: you can use the windows libs with wine
[09:03] <Geminias> thank god!
[09:03] <neverblue> how do you check the version of javascript your using?
[09:03] <Szeraax> Anlar: as in, not running in wine, maybe WoW.__._._-__.run
[09:03] <Geminias> alrighty.. can someoen tell me how to get the kernel headers for my currently running kernel?
[09:03] <preaction> Anlar, i realize, but that's still using the wine compatibility layer. Szeraax wanted a native linux build
[09:03] <Anlar> preaction: the only things left really on wine are then the dynamic linker and alsa+opengl translations
[09:03] <Szeraax> you know?
[09:03] <Yasumoto> misstajah: I may have found something: httpL//wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide#Revert_to_Xorg_driver
[09:04] <Anlar> yeah that will happen later.. some 10-20 years time :)
[09:04] <Yasumoto> misstajah: it's for ati drivers, but in this case it should work regardless
[09:04] <C-{pR0F> I got this message when i try to install a .deb package "Dependence is not satisfiable : python-support" is there anyway to fix that (i tried apt-get install python-support , it didn't work)
[09:04] <Szeraax> Anlar: haha, i doubt it
[09:04] <misstajah> thank you Yasumoto i'll check it out and brief u :D
[09:04] <Yasumoto> sweet :)
[09:04] <Yasumoto> gl
[09:04] <Szeraax> Anlar: maybe, once Blizzard come up with an even better game that everyone goes to and WoW becomes abandonware...
[09:05] <Anlar> lol
[09:05] <wizek> Are there anyone here who knows how to install succesfuly an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS to Ubuntu 7.04 (kernel: 2.6.20-15-generic). I tried follow a lot of manuals, howtos, but nothing was good enough... I have error messages all time about it cannot load GDM, if I edit xorg.conf...
[09:06] <Geminias> does "smp" have anything to do with dual core?
[09:06] <Anlar> "an even better" and "everyone goes" is what do not really belong to the same sentence. wow is just retarded average stuff for retarded average people
[09:06] <Geminias> i need to get the kernel headers for this kernel:   2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:06] <Geminias> any help ?
[09:06] <preaction> Geminias, SMP is Symmetric Multi-Processing, yes it has to do with multiple processors (or "cores")
[09:07] <Szeraax> go get their debs, Geminias
[09:07] <preaction> Geminias, apt-cache search linux headers <- try that?
[09:07] <Geminias> thanks, so does the #2 SMP
[09:07] <Geminias> is that part of the kernel name?
[09:07] <Geminias> or is it just .generic
[09:07] <C-{pR0F> Geminias: I need Help !!
[09:07] <preaction> Geminias, that's part of the generic kernel. it doesn't hurt if you only have 1 processor
[09:08] <Szeraax> Geminias: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/linux-source-2.6.20
[09:08] <Szeraax> is this what you need?
[09:08] <Geminias> i have dual core, and i am feeding the kernel headers found at linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic
[09:08] <Geminias> /include
[09:08] <Geminias> yet it is telling me that its not the running kernel
[09:08] <merlin-m-29> i seem to have lost some stuff on my top panel  updates icon thingie and when i ran pidgin and closed it would minimize to there all that is gone pls help lol im new to all this
[09:09] <C-{pR0F> Geminias: I got this message when i try to install a .deb package "Dependence is not satisfiable : python-support" is there anyway to fix that (i tried apt-get install python-support , it didn't work)
[09:09] <Szeraax> C-{pR0F: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/python/python-support
[09:09] <Yasumoto> merlin-m-29: i forget what it is you need to add exactly, but right click on the toolbar, and select "add to panel"
[09:09] <Szeraax> go get the .deb and use dpkg to install it
[09:10] <Geminias> i don't know pROF
[09:10] <Szeraax> (or the gui package manager if you want to)
[09:10] <C-{pR0F> Szeraax: I'm checking it .....
[09:11] <Szeraax> C-{pR0F: enjoy
[09:11] <C-{pR0F> "An older version is available in a software channel" , what shall i do Szeraax? Continue ?
[09:11] <merlin-m-29> oh lol ty i got it was notification area
[09:12] <Szeraax> well, would the older version satisfy the first deb and depends?
[09:12] <C-{pR0F> no
[09:12] <Szeraax> the first .deb and its dependancies?
[09:12] <Szeraax> *
[09:12] <Szeraax> then, use the latest version
[09:12] <Geminias> kk so just a quick question...  $ uname -a gives me: 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP   --- does that mean i need the package 2.6.20-16-generic
[09:13] <Geminias> or is there another package for smp
[09:13] <Zee1ot> could someone help me, I need write access to a drive mounted with sshfs
[09:13] <C-{pR0F> Szeraax: it works , thank u (K)
[09:13] <Kjellviz> is it possible to install Emerald in ubuntu ?
[09:14] <FreeFull> Kjellviz, yes, it should be in repositories
[09:14] <Szeraax> Geminias: what arch do you use?
[09:14] <wizek> Are there anyone here who knows how to install succesfuly an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS to Ubuntu 7.04 (kernel: 2.6.20-15-generic). I tried follow a lot of manuals, howtos, but nothing was good enough... I have error messages all time about it cannot load GDM, if I edit xorg.conf...
[09:14] <x89x> Toba you there ?
[09:14] <Geminias> i'm using the 2.6.20-16-generic
[09:14] <Kjellviz> FreeFull: cant find it when searching for emerald
[09:14] <x89x> Toma you there ?
[09:14] <EADG> Zee1ot: I had a write problem with a NTFS-3g drive over sshfs awhile back.
[09:14] <Szeraax> Geminias: no, my bad, what is your processor?
[09:15] <Geminias> i'm trying to compile vmware but it's saying the header files are not the currently running kernel
[09:15] <Szeraax> its arch, do you know?
[09:15] <Geminias> centrino duo
[09:15] <Geminias> u need exact model?
[09:15] <Szeraax> Geminias:  personally, i would go get module-assistant and tell it to prepare, and it will get what you need
[09:15] <Toma-> x89x: not for long
[09:15] <FreeFull> Kjellviz, have you enabled the extra depositories?
[09:15] <x89x> Toma  it didnt work : bu i found a new thing. theres a unichome package in synaptic ! Now how do i install that ??
[09:15] <Kjellviz> FreeFull: yep
[09:15] <Zee1ot> its not an ntfs partition
[09:15] <Geminias> module-assistant.. hmm shall i google it then?
[09:16] <Szeraax> sure
[09:16] <Szeraax> it should be in a repos though
[09:16] <Szeraax> (assuming, you have apt set up)
[09:16] <Kjellviz> FreeFull: forget it, installed it via apt-get =)
[09:16] <Szeraax> (you do)
[09:16] <EADG> Zee1ot: try sending to the home dir you are logged into then xfer to remote drive.
[09:16] <Zee1ot> ???
[09:17] <Szeraax> "apt-get module-assisatant" would probly be easiest, and would probly work too, Geminias
[09:17] <Toma-> x89x: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select unichrome or via as thedriver
[09:17] <Geminias> kk i got it.. so i just run it and it does what?
[09:17] <x89x> Toma sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg : Unichrome doesnt show up even when installed !
[09:17] <Szeraax> you run it, then choose "prepare"
[09:17] <Szeraax> (make sure you are root)
[09:18] <Szeraax> and answer yes when it asks if you want to unpack
[09:18] <Toma-> x89x: well im not sure then, sorry :(
[09:18] <Geminias> kk
[09:19] <Szeraax> Geminias: now, it should be getting all that your kernel needs
[09:19] <x89x> Toma : How do i know my model mumber of my card ?
[09:19] <Geminias> its done
[09:19] <Geminias> now what do i do lol
[09:19] <Toma-> x89x: 'lspci'
[09:19] <Szeraax> x89x: you look at the card, or use lspci | grep
[09:19] <Szeraax> Geminias: did it finish succesfully?
[09:19] <Geminias> i am supposed to feed vmware where my kernel headers are
[09:20] <Szeraax> Geminias: go do vmware then
[09:20] <kbrooks> Amaranth, ping
[09:20] <Szeraax> you shouldn't need to
[09:20] <C-{pR0F> Szeraax: sorry for bothring u again , but I installed a .deb package from the gui , and now i don't know where to find it , i don't want to run it from the terminal , i want to use the GUI (it's ATPonCD , where can i find it after installing)
[09:20] <kbrooks> Amaranth, need to pm
[09:20] <Geminias> where are the header files though
[09:20] <Geminias> did module assistant put them somewhere?
[09:20] <Szeraax> C-{pR0F: generally somewhere in /usr
[09:20] <Szeraax> Geminias: when i did vmware, i just pressed enter
[09:20] <Szeraax> Geminias: and it found then for me
[09:21] <Geminias> lol
[09:21] <Szeraax> Geminias: i think....
[09:21] <Geminias> its not finding them for me
[09:21] <Geminias> i have to specify where they are exactly (if i even have the right ones)
[09:21] <Szeraax> C-{pR0F: ohhh, so you want to use it, but its not in your menu? is that what you meant?
[09:21] <Geminias> what did module assistant actually do?
[09:22] <C-{pR0F> Yes ! , but i'm looking in the /usr Szeraax right now
[09:22] <Szeraax> Geminias: it went and got all the stuff you need to be able to compile modules for your kernel
[09:22] <Kjellviz> doesent emerald skin the gnome panels ?
[09:22] <Amaranth> kbrooks: go ahead
[09:22] <Geminias> but how do i use what it did to compile vmware?
[09:22] <Szeraax> C-{pR0F: have you tried using the menu updating tool?
[09:22] <tschaka> merc avi
[09:22] <Szeraax> Geminias: vmware needs some of the things that m-a went, got, and set up for you
[09:23] <nkbreau> what should i be using to conenct to a wireless network ? i tried wifi-radar but the button always says "disconnect" and i cant seem to be able to do anything
[09:23] <Geminias> alright but where do i tell vmware to look for my header files lol
[09:23] <Szeraax> nkbreau: are you sure your wireless card is working?
[09:23] <Anlar> nkbreau: networkmanager-gnome ?
[09:23] <C-{pR0F> Szeraax: wait i think i got it ,,, yes it was unchecked in the alacrate menu editor ! :p
[09:23] <nkbreau> yes it work, wifi-radar shows like 8 wireless networks
[09:23] <C-{pR0F> thankx
[09:23] <Szeraax> Geminias: now i feel dumb, bc i cant remeber...
[09:23] <nkbreau> including mine
[09:23] <nkbreau> but when i select it and click edit it doesnt do anything
[09:24] <leobloom> guys how is it called that package that let you see all the stats bout your pc in linux?
[09:24] <Szeraax> mkeadle: have you tried using iwconfig?
[09:24] <Geminias> lol ^^
[09:24] <mkeadle> Szeraax: sure haven't
[09:24] <Szeraax> :(
[09:24] <nkbreau> network manager is a pain when you have to switch to a different wifi
[09:24] <nkbreau> because you have to retype the key and everything
[09:24] <Szeraax> nkbreau: have you used iwconfig?
[09:24] <Geminias> oh i found them
[09:24] <Geminias> lets see if they work now
[09:25] <Szeraax> mkeadle: sorry!, wrong person
[09:25] <Szeraax> Geminias: ok
[09:25] <compengi> !ftp
[09:25] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[09:25] <ubunut> ftp://meklort.isa-geek.com user:star + pass:star
[09:25] <compengi> !ftpd
[09:25] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[09:25] <younghacker> i need help fixing my software indexes they are broken
[09:26] <nkbreau> eth1 comes up as my wireless card, says I'm not connected to any netwroks
[09:26] <genii> proftpd is good and fairly simple to set up
[09:26] <younghacker> i tried to depackage something and it needed dependencies ,,,upon installing dependencies everything got stuck
[09:26] <younghacker> now i can't update
[09:26] <younghacker> i can't remove the software
[09:26] <younghacker> i cant do anything
[09:26] <Geminias> darn its still saying they dont match the running kernel
[09:26] <Szeraax> nkbreau: can you use it to connect to your network?
[09:27] <Szeraax> Geminias: REALLY?
[09:27] <Geminias> i'm trying to compile vmware workstation 5 - which is, i believe, 2 years old
[09:27] <younghacker> i can't update my ubuntu until my software indexes are fixed
[09:27] <Geminias> so its possible its just too old to work
[09:27] <younghacker> let me go google it
[09:27] <Szeraax> Geminias: hmmm, maybe...
[09:27] <nkbreau> i can connect in the newtowk manager are if i type in the ssid and key and stuff
[09:27] <nkbreau> but i want a gui tool where i can just double click the ssid or it saves the connections in a list or something
[09:27] <Geminias> anyone know of a free vmware i can get?
[09:28] <younghacker> ummm anyone know how to fix a software index
[09:28] <younghacker> where can i start
[09:28] <Szeraax> vmware player, Geminias
[09:28] <younghacker> please
[09:28] <Geminias> i got this vesion working on fc5
[09:28] <Geminias> okay i'll check it out
[09:28] <Szeraax> as long as you have the vm image already created
[09:28] <younghacker> thanks alot
[09:28] <sn0> younghacker can you pastebin the output of the following command to paste.debian.net or another paste site, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[09:29] <micahcowan> Hi; I seem to recall that by editing some particular file (something in /var/lib/dpkg, perhaps?), it is possible to specify that a particular package be held at the current version, but I've forgotten the procedure to do this. Can anyone help with that?
[09:29] <stefg> !pinning | micahcowan
[09:29] <ubotu> micahcowan: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[09:29] <micahcowan> stefg, much appreciated, thanks!
[09:30] <Geminias> why is vmware player free?
[09:30] <FreeFull> Geminias, Its freeware, but not open-source
[09:30] <stefg> Geminias: if you want you can make a payment to me :-)
[09:30] <Szeraax> micahcowan: i would use aptitude
[09:30] <Geminias> what limitation does it have?
[09:30] <Szeraax> vmware player is free bc you can't create anything with it, just run images and save them
[09:30] <stefg> !vmware
[09:30] <Sciri> Geminias, afaik, it can use images but not create new images from scratch.
[09:31] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:31] <Anlar> Geminias: a lot small limitations, plus you can't create new images (using the official tools).. but also vmware-server is free and more able
[09:31] <micahcowan> Szeraax, I suppose I probably should; just too used to using plain apt-get for most purposes. Aptitude provides pinning support?
[09:31] <bur[n] er> !virtualbox
[09:31] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[09:31] <Szeraax> apt-get should too, i believe
[09:32] <Szeraax> instead of apt-get --install _______, i think its something like apt-get --hold ____________
[09:32] <Leonox> Hi... I'm looking for an open soruce aplication... I need a program to share my linux box desktop with a guy who is in windows... somehting similar to netmeeting... do anyone knows about one?
[09:32] <bur[n] er> Leonox: you could use vnc
[09:32] <stefg> micahcowan: aptitude is nothing than a fancier frontend to apt. so if you pin a package in preferences 'both' programs will respect that
[09:32] <Szeraax> micahcowan: they are the same tool really,
[09:32] <bur[n] er> Leonox: or NX (nomachine.com)
[09:32] <micahcowan> Right; other than the fact that, IIRC, aptitude will download Recommends by default
[09:33] <micahcowan> Szeraax, why should I be using aptitude rather than apt-get?
[09:33] <Szeraax> i didn't say you should, i said, _i would_, micahcowan
[09:33] <micahcowan> Oh, :)
[09:33] <TaJMoX> aptitude has a graphical list of packages that you can toggle - like synaptic
[09:33] <Geminias> sorry i just read replies now
[09:33] <TaJMoX> apt-get is for command line only
[09:33] <micahcowan> TaJMoX, aren't you thinking of dselect?
[09:33] <Geminias> so it can't create new images?  meaning i can't install a new OS with it?
[09:34] <Szeraax> Geminias: correct
[09:34] <stefg> Geminias: vmware support is in #vmware
[09:34] <Szeraax> Geminias: generally
[09:34] <bur[n] er> Geminias: check out virtualbox.org or vmware server to create images
[09:34] <TaJMoX> micahcowan: yes you can select and deselect packages in a graphical manner with aptitude.  it just uses dpkg just like apt-get
[09:34] <Geminias> ok thanks
[09:35] <micahcowan> TaJMoX, I think you're thinking of the "dselect" command
[09:35] <lillpelle> Hi, my CD/DVD reader&writer only works at som reboots. And when it work i just works for some CDs/DVDs and then stop working. At last reboots it does not work at all. I get "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist" when trying to mount it. Any ideas? (I am running feisty on amd64 and happily gives more info if asked)
[09:35] <Szeraax> micahcowan: no, it can select and remove just like apt-get
[09:35] <Anlar> aptitude has ncurses interface also, and uses a lot of the same apt crapola
[09:36] <stefg> lillpelle: inspect dmesg. Overclocked system?
[09:36] <lillpelle> stefg: not overclocked. What should I look for with dmesg?
[09:36] <micahcowan> Szeraax, I don't think install/remove == select/deselect; they're related, but not equivalent
[09:36] <micahcowan> You can select without installing, etc
[09:37] <stefg> lillpelle: error-messages i which relate to your drive
[09:37] <Szeraax> micahcowan: i stand corrected, forgive my language :)
[09:37] <TaJMoX> micahcowan: no im talking about aptitude.  type aptitude and press enter in terminal.
[09:37] <Leonox> bur[n] ner: but vnc doesn't seem to have graphics aceleration
[09:37] <bur[n] er> Leonox: you're looking to do remote 3d gaming?  I'd say good luck :)
[09:37] <Szeraax> however micahcowan, i believe that aptitude is fully capable just the same
[09:38] <bur[n] er> Leonox: i use nomachine stuff for my remote access and it's killer
[09:38] <micahcowan> TaJMoX, I see, thanks. However, I'd probably only be interested in using it in command mode.
[09:38] <Leonox> bur[n] er: I need to show my application to a guy with windows... buy my app uses opengl
[09:38] <kesara> Hi Is it possible to get new 7.04 System after installing from 6.06?
[09:38] <TaJMoX> micahcowan: i prefer apt-get and apt-cache for commandline
[09:39] <stefg> !upgrade | kesara
[09:39] <ubotu> kesara: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:39] <kesara> I mean Ubuntu 6.06 CD.
[09:39] <bur[n] er> Leonox: good luck with that ;)
[09:39] <kesara> stefg: thx
[09:39] <micahcowan> TaJMoX, yes, I think I'll stick with those for now, as well.
[09:39] <Szeraax> kesara: after you install the 6.06 it is possible to update to 7.0x
[09:39] <motin_> har anybody got a copy of scanModem.gz? the download link is down...
[09:40] <stefg> kesara: rather do a fresh install, you have to upgrade twice and end up d/l'ing two versions instead of just a feisty install CD
[09:40] <bur[n] er> Leonox: you could try NX, vnc, or X forwarding, but openGL through remote access is tough
[09:40] <swaj> kesara, you can upgrade over the net using Synaptics, check out that page linked above
[09:40] <systemd0wn> Question, Anyone upgrade their ubuntu 7.04 kernel to 2.6.22 ?
[09:40] <compengi> how do i start proftpd?
[09:40] <bur[n] er> Leonox: maybe you could just make a screencast to share your app?  gtk-record-my-desktop is nice
[09:40] <micahcowan> Thanks for the help/info, TaJMoX, stefg and Szeraax
[09:40] <swaj> compengi, /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[09:40] <bur[n] er> compengi: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[09:41] <compengi> swaj, nope i couldn't i've tried it, it gives sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[09:41] <compengi> ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[09:41] <stefg> swaj: skipping versions is not supported. so if you install Dapper you've got to go through edgy, then to feisty. Very inefficient
[09:41] <gourdin> when will ubuntu release the flash plugin update (security fix) ?
[09:41] <swaj> stefg, was that meant for someone else?
[09:41] <Anlar> gourdin: did already
[09:42] <gourdin> Anlar: ?
[09:42] <bur[n] er> gourdin: i think i twas released... apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:42] <swaj> compengi, yea sorry you need to sudo
[09:42] <Anlar> gourdin: 3-4 days ago
[09:42] <lillpelle> stefg: only error msg I see is "[   67.721363]  ata2: port failed to respond (30 secs, Status 0x80)", could that be it?
[09:42] <compengi> swaj, i did sudo i got: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[09:42] <compengi> ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[09:42] <stefg> lillpelle: ok, that's something
[09:42] <Anlar> lillpelle: that's quite bad sign, to ever see that sort of line
[09:42] <mhz`-> compengi, then proftpd is started
[09:43] <lillpelle> stefg: before that line there is one saying that port is slow to respond
[09:43] <gourdin> Anlar: bur[n] er I got <IP_ADDRESS>.2ubuntu1
[09:43] <swaj> compengi, it should be running, try "ftp localhost"
[09:43] <Szeraax> motin_: it looks like no one has been able to dl it for quite some time. I would try going to multiplt linux irc channels asking if anyone has it
[09:43] <gourdin> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[09:43] <stefg> lillpelle: that's the reason why it sometiomes works, sometimes not
[09:43] <systemd0wn> Question, Anyone upgrade their ubuntu 7.04 kernel to 2.6.22 ?
[09:43] <motin_> Szeraax: just about the same minute I found a mirror: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/first.html
[09:43] <bur[n] er> gourdin: i have no idea about feisty's flash... i'm using gutsy... sorry
[09:43] <Leonox> bur[n] er: ok I'll give it a try
[09:44] <Anlar> gourdin: for feisty it was auto-distributed 3-4 days ago, update&upgrade cycle brought it..
[09:44] <lillpelle> stefg: ok, thanks. You got any idea of how to solve such a problem (if possible)?
[09:44] <gourdin> Anlar: not here :/ I update / upgrade every day
[09:44] <Szeraax> motin_: very good then
[09:44] <Megaqwerty> I'm writing a script that would tunnel a port through ssh for a friend. I felt it would be a good time to try out zenity. My only problem is that I'm not sure how to pass the password that zenity collects (into my $password variable) to ssh as the connection password...any ideas on how this could be accomplished?
[09:44] <swaj> gourdin, I visited the flash test page with my firefox and the plugin was installed for me through firefox, not flashplugin-nonfree
[09:44] <stefg> lillpelle: so you've got to investigate about your motherboard and issues with it in ubuntu. what mobo is that?
[09:44] <Anlar> gourdin: broken mirror, apt, .. ?
[09:45] <Megaqwerty> *I know how to send it to the password variable...just not how to give it to ssh
[09:45] <gourdin> Anlar: other update are ok
[09:45] <gourdin> Anlar: i'll check this
[09:45] <gourdin> thx for the feedback
[09:45] <lillpelle> stefg: it is an MK ASUS M2NPV-VM GeForce 6150 + nForce 430...
[09:45] <swaj> gourdin, http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_15507&sliceId=1
[09:46] <gourdin> swaj: I'm using konqueror :)
[09:46] <swaj> gourdin, visit that link.  If you're runnin 9.0.48 then you have the security update
[09:46] <insomniac190> I'm trying to access my networked windows machine on my ubuntu laptop, but it wont let me through places > network
[09:46] <gormih_> sudo /etc/X11/init.d/gdm restart - radical metod
[09:46] <Sciri> Megaqwerty: I don't believe ssh will accept a password on the CLI. Google for generating ssh keys to use key-based authentication instead of passwords.
[09:46] <swaj> gourdin, that page will at least tell you what version you have installed... I think flashplugin-nonfree was already updated
[09:47] <Anlar> gourdin: they must have pulled the update for technical reasons. in fact the installation/update of that package failed for many.. because packages.ubuntu.com doesn't update it anymore
[09:47] <gourdin> swaj: thx, I got 9.0.31
[09:47] <gourdin> weird
[09:47] <swaj> gourdin, yeah you need 9.0.48
[09:47] <gourdin> I just installed the libcurl security fix
[09:47] <gourdin> via update / upgrade
[09:47] <gourdin> hmmmm
[09:47] <stefg> lillpelle: for diagnosis you can try to boot with some special boot parameters
[09:47] <stefg> !boot | lillpelle
[09:47] <ubotu> lillpelle: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:48] <chowmeined> is something wrong with the package signing?
[09:48] <gourdin> deinstall / reinstall :)
[09:48] <Anlar> gourdin: it was in updates already.. but is not anymore. some devels broke it I guess
[09:48] <stefg> lillpelle: i read in a german forum that noapic is required sometimers
[09:48] <gourdin> Anlar: ho, so no update right now
[09:48] <gourdin> E: Package flashplayer-nonfree has no installation candidate
[09:49] <gourdin> damn :/
[09:49] <chowmeined> are the packages not being signed properly? it says BADSIG and some of the packages are 'not from a trusted source'
[09:49] <lillpelle> stefg: oh I see, I'll try some of them (tried acpi=off before without any luck, but that is maybe not the correct syntax)
[09:49] <gourdin> apt-get install flash-plugin install <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:49] <swaj> gourdin, yeah I tried to get the update myself and it complained about md5 sums not matching, so I just removed the old flashplugin-nonfree and used firefox's built-in system to install the updated version.... unfortunately since you use konqueror and I'm not familiar with that, I couldn't tell you an alternative way
[09:49] <stefg> lillpelle: check if you can update your bios
[09:50] <gourdin> swaj: I can try with firefox, i just want to understand why apt doesn't install it
[09:50] <lillpelle> thank you stefg, I'll try boot options, and then updating the bios (if possible). I'll get back and tell what happened.
[09:50] <swaj> gourdin, I don't know either :/  the MD5 mismatch snagged me up just this morning
[09:50] <chowmeined> no response
[09:50] <gourdin> swaj: same here :/
[09:50] <Photocopy> Now I find I get no sound while looking at youtube videos or projectplaylist. Opening a file in XMMS tells me to make sure that my soundcard is Configured Properly and that I have the correct output plugin, and that another program isnt blocking the soundcard.... What do I do?
[09:51] <chowmeined> so nobody cares that apt is broken.. again.. ?
[09:51] <Invisionfree> Is there a file you can run to shut down your computer? Like in /usr or something
[09:51] <kesara> I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop and even after I plug in my ear phones still sound is comming out from the builtin speakers. Any fix for that?
[09:51] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, poweroff
[09:51] <Invisionfree> o
[09:51] <insomniac190> i need help accessing files off a computer connected to my network, can anyone help?
[09:51] <androoo> hi,  i am trying to install Xine on ubuntu 6.06 ... got as far as the following command "sudo apt-get install libxine1"  but its not available ....   so i tried as sugested in the error " sudo apt-get -f install libxine-main1",   this installed okay but when i then try  "sudo dpkg -i xine-ui_0.99.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb" I get cannot access archive: No such file or directory, any ideas?
[09:51] <Megaqwerty> Sciri: so there's no ingenious thing like using a pipe that could answer the password prompt?
[09:51] <Photocopy> Nobody wants to help me cause im an idiot?
[09:52] <Invisionfree> Is there a file you can run to shut down your computer? Like in /usr or something that you can run in mIRC?
[09:52] <swaj> Photocopy, it's probably because OSS can't have more than one sound input channel at a time.  You probably need to "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss" and change firefox to use alsa
[09:52] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, dont do that, that is not a good idea
[09:52] <Invisionfree> chowmeined: Why?
[09:52] <swaj> Photocopy, this is only a guess tho, I'm not a sound expert in Ubuntu :P
[09:52] <Photocopy> swaj
[09:52] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, remote shutdown using IRC is dangerous
[09:52] <Photocopy> its cause this computer
[09:52] <Invisionfree> How so chowmeined
[09:52] <Photocopy> back when it had windows it used to not let me play two sound making things too
[09:53] <Photocopy> but now something in interrupting 24/7
[09:53] <Photocopy> making me essentially have no sound.
[09:53] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, IRC has no security, a malicious server could send the command to your machine and shut it down at any time
[09:53] <Invisionfree> chowmeined: I have sufficient protection, and I'm only doing it once anyway o.O
[09:53] <Sciri> Megaqwerty: I've never tried but I believe ssh is intentionally engineered not to allow insecure things like passing a password in a pipe or redirect. I could be wrong tho. If you absolutely must pass a password instead of using key-based auth look at "expect", a scripting language that lets you script actions. Like "run ssh, wait for password, send password, etc.".
[09:53] <C-{pR0F> I want to update my Dapper to Fiesty ,,,, how do i do that ?
[09:53] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, use ssh
[09:53] <swaj> Photocopy, try the instructions for alsa here -> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:53] <Invisionfree> chowmeined: How?
[09:54] <Photocopy> swaj
[09:54] <swaj> Photocopy, I'm not 100% sure but it could fix your problem
[09:54] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, are you on windows?
[09:54] <Photocopy> thats irrelevant, i have flash..
[09:54] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, go get putty or another ssh client, connect to your linux machine, type sudo poweroff
[09:54] <Invisionfree> chowmeined: I'm looking for like... //run shutdown or something... chowmeined: If I was, I wouldn't be in here now would I?
[09:54] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, you could have another linux machine but you are currently on windows..
[09:55] <swaj> Photocopy, I know it's already installed, but those directions include a method of switching flash to use alsa.  My hunch is that you're using OSS sound drivers which don't support more than one program doing input at a time, but ALSA does support this.  So those directions show you how to make flash use alsa
[09:55] <Photocopy> alsa?
[09:55] <Photocopy> whats OSS?
[09:55] <Invisionfree> chowmeined: I'm not...How can I //run somethingtomakeitdie in mIRC?
[09:55] <swaj> Photocopy, it's more of a wrapper really
[09:55] <Photocopy> i think its my video card swaj
[09:55] <hanasaki>  just installed feisty.... root has the correct date / time from "date" regular users get +16 hours.... what is up with that?
[09:55] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, how are you running mIRC on linux?
[09:55] <swaj> Photocopy, I doubt very much that it's your video card ;P
[09:55] <Photocopy> augh
[09:55] <Photocopy> sound card
[09:55] <mhz`-> chowmeined, you can use wine
[09:56] <chowmeined> mhz`-, who on earth would do that...
[09:56] <Invisionfree> chowmeined: WINE...
[09:56] <Invisionfree> chowmeined: A lot of people I know
[09:56] <swaj> Photocopy, just try the method listed in that link, if it doesn't work then at least you gave it a try :)  I think it might work for you
[09:56] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, i dont think i can help you, im sorry
[09:56] <dmakalsk> Hi, can someone please point me to a guide to make the default ubuntu interface look more like Mac OS X ?
[09:56] <voidmage> Are the ivtv firmware packages even necessary since feisty put ivtv in the kernel?'
[09:56] <mhz`-> chowmeined, what's wrong with using wine + mirc?
[09:56] <Photocopy> im almost 100% sure its my sound card being unable to play sound from multiple sources, and something is playing blank noise!!! this is an old computer, so its probably likely, i said that it does this in windows too
[09:57] <swaj> Photocopy, if you decide to try that method, you might need to launch xmms using the command "aoss xmms" instead of just "xmms"
[09:57] <Skrypt> Can someone help me get ALSA drivers working?
[09:57] <chowmeined> mhz`-, its more the remote shutdown using irc thing
[09:57] <Photocopy> fine swaj
[09:57] <Photocopy> i think you dont understand my problem but ill try it anyway
[09:57] <swaj> Photocopy, it's a lot cheaper and easier than replacing a soundcard ;)
[09:58] <chowmeined> Invisionfree, I dont know how to do that off the top of my head, i could figure it out, but i wouldnt ever do it, id use ssh instead
[09:58] <Photocopy> k whres the link to that for xubuntu, swaj?
[09:58] <mhz`-> chowmeined, and that happens how often?
[09:58] <voidmage> Are the ivtv firmware packages even necessary since feisty put ivtv in the kernel?'
[09:58] <mhz`-> heh, where do you hang out?
[09:58] <swaj> Photocopy, the process should be the same for xubuntu, you just use a different editor besides gedit
[09:59] <chowmeined> mhz`-, what happens how often?
[09:59] <mhz`-> remote shut down
[09:59] <mhz`-> chowmeined, is that an exploit?
[09:59] <Photocopy> swaj
[09:59] <chowmeined> mhz`-, no..  It seems like every game i open the video isnt on center with the window
[10:07] <Erdaron> hello, can someone tell me what I need to install to view PDF files?
[10:07] <FreeFull> Erdagon, depends what speed you want
[10:08] <Erdaron> FreeFull: what do you mean?
[10:08] <chowmeined> Erdaron, it comes with Ubuntu, its called "Document Viewer"
[10:08] <FreeFull> Erdagon, if you want it to have all features and be slow, install Adobe Reader
[10:08] <Erdaron> chowmeined: that doesn't seem to work. it just freezes in "LOADING" screen
[10:08] <chowmeined> FreeFull, but it crashes a lot under linux
[10:09] <Erdaron> what about the official PDF viewer from Adobe?
[10:09] <chowmeined> Erdaron, it crashes a lot
[10:09] <Erdaron> ho-hum
[10:10] <xjkr> hum-ho
[10:11] <Erdaron> nothing on sourceforge that works?
[10:11] <mhz`-> look into foxit reader
[10:11] <mhz`-> i believe that's supported in *nix
[10:11] <xjkr> that fails miserably
[10:11] <mhz`-> and its smaller
[10:11] <mhz`-> xjkr, foxit fails?
[10:11] <Geminias> !VirtualBox
[10:11] <xjkr> mhz`-: opening a pdf in foxit on ubuntu causes it to crash
[10:12] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[10:12] <mhz`-> not for me
[10:12] <mhz`-> maybe it's your foxit
[10:12] <xjkr> maybe!
[10:12] <Erdaron> has anyone tried the RPM package of Adobe Reader? Just convert it with Alien...?
[10:12] <xjkr> evince works just fine though
[10:12] <mhz`-> reinstall foxit
[10:12] <Photocopy> ?
[10:14] <Megaqwerty> Sciri: sorry about that, I lost EVDO connectivity...I believe my last question was "so there's no ingenious thing (like using some kind of a pipe) that could answer the password prompt?
[10:14] <AngryElf_> in what config file is the apache port located?
[10:15] <SpiffyBalak> I have a problem. No matter what browser I use, I can't log into Everything2.
[10:15] <mhz`-> ports.conf
[10:15] <mhz`-> for apache2
[10:17] <Braxis> Could I have some help setting up g++ properly? I have libc/libc-dev, g++/gcc, make, and build essentials all installed. When I compile a hello world app g++ has an internal error (seg fault in program cc1plus)
[10:18] <Sciri> Megaqwerty: No worries. Megaqwerty: I've never tried but I believe ssh is intentionally engineered not to allow insecure things like passing a password in a pipe or redirect. I could be wrong tho. If you absolutely must pass a password instead of using key-based auth look at "expect", a scripting language that lets you script actions. Like "run ssh, wait for password, send password, etc.".
[10:18] <ahorner> how do i get armor kde desktop object working
[10:18] <ahorner> amor*
[10:19] <kittu_> hi
[10:19] <ahorner> using metacity
[10:19] <Megaqwerty> Sciri: that's cool...I'll check it out. Although, I think for now I'm just going to let the user enter the password in BASH *gasp*
[10:21] <kittu_> hi i have a problem with playing a continues streaming video ...ie the stream have two continues stream one after another ..there are two bits in a stream i am able to play the first bit ant it stops .....its like there is an small advet playing for few sec followed by a stream video but the stream stops after small it i need to configure to play the continues stream..
[10:21] <Phrozen_One> is it possible to have a thin client using a wlan adapter, say with a modified etherboot floppy?
[10:22] <compengi> what does this mean - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'compengi' error: No address associated with hostname
[10:22] <kittu_> can any one help
[10:24] <Skrypt> Can someone help me get ALSA drivers working?
[10:25] <SpiffyBalak> I have a problem. No matter what browser I use, I can't log into Everything2. Does it have something to do with Perl, since the site uses Perl?
[10:26] <MinuteElectron> No.
[10:26] <swaj> perl would run on the server, not your box
[10:26] <SpiffyBalak> I see
[10:26] <Braxis> Could I have some help setting up g++ properly? I have libc/libc-dev, g++/gcc, make, and build essentials all installed. When I compile a hello world app g++ has an internal error (seg fault in program cc1plus)
[10:26] <SpiffyBalak> it's the only site I have trouble logging on to
[10:29] <phantasm_> Anyone awake?
[10:29] <SpiffyBalak> yes
[10:55] (chowmeined/#ubuntu) ouch
[10:55] (Bullcat/#ubuntu) Hi guys. I have a question, and I couldnt find the answer on google/ubuntuforums etc., maybe I'm using the wrong keywords. How do I manage things like desktop backgrounds, firefox shortcuts, permissions etc like I would with policy's in a Windows enviroment?
[10:55] (chowmeined/#ubuntu) what platform?
[10:55] (chowmeined/#ubuntu) Bullcat, sabayon
[10:55] (Braxis/#ubuntu) System specs or ubuntu version?
[10:56] (chowmeined/#ubuntu) like ppc, ultrasparc?
[10:56] (Bullcat/#ubuntu) Its an Ubuntu 7.04, users log on with thin clients
[10:56] (Braxis/#ubuntu) run of the mill normal old relatively slow x86
[10:56] (ferret_0567/#ubuntu) 18874 travis    15   0  532m  58m  37m S   38 11.7   0:55.61 amarokapp
[10:56] (chowmeined/#ubuntu) Bullcat, http://www.gnome.org/projects/sabayon/
[10:56] <rolfen> i khave a problem
[10:56] <dholiday> what package to I merge to get mod_perl with apache2 ?
[10:57] <ferret_0567> amarok is using 38% CPU on a dual core 64-bit AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.0 GHz, overclocked to 2.25GHz, on Ubuntu 7.04 64-bit
[10:57] <Bullcat> thanks chowmeined, i'l check it out
[10:57] <ferret_0567> why>
[10:57] <Pici> dholiday: libapache-mod-perl
[10:57] <chowmeined> rolfen, in kernel space?
[10:57] <Pici> dholiday: er, sorry libapache2-mod-perl2
[10:58] <rolfen> chowmeined: in user space!
[10:58] <dholiday> Pici: thank you so much...
[10:58] <Braxis> chowmeined, do you know anyone who would know the answer to this fubared g++?
[10:58] <dholiday> Pici: it seems like this should be easier to find in packages.ubuntu.com ...
[10:59] <chowmeined> Braxis, no i dont, im sorry.. i haven't really run into that before
[10:59] <rolfen> well i think i deselected the "expand" option of my top taskbar in gnome, and now i cant get it to expand like it was before, because there's not blank space to right click on hence no more access to the taskbar properties
[11:00] <nullkuhl> hello
[11:01] <nullkuhl> can any one help
[11:01] <Braxis> chowmeined, do you think reinstalling g++ would help?
[11:01] <nullkuhl> guys if i wanna install compiz fusion shall i remove beryl ??
[11:01] <chowmeined> Braxis, you could try, im really not sure
[11:02] <Braxis> Oh another fun error I've run into.... when installing libsvn1
[11:02] <rolfen> i'm going to rephrase my problem: i can't access the properties of my top panel because there's no more blank space to right-click on in the top panel... what do i do?
[11:02] <chowmeined> Braxis, have you tested your memory?
[11:02] <Braxis> "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsvn1.......corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive"
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> rolfen: drag some icons onto the deskto to make room to get to prop
[11:03] <Braxis> chowmeined, i've never had a problem with the machine before this
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> when done drag them back
[11:03] <rolfen> Jack_Sparrow: ok i deleted an icon and i time to right click and access the menu before the panel shrunk... thanks
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:03] <rolfen> phew!
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> rolfen: you dont need to delete one..
[11:04] <jorgp> more times then not seg faults with a known working gcc/g++ is memory, or at least that has been my experience
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> rolfen: just move it to the desktop then move it back
[11:04] <chowmeined> Braxis, your memory could be bad...
[11:04] <chowmeined> Braxis, if you have the livecd, try running memtest
[11:04] <Braxis> What should I download to check it
[11:04] <Braxis> memtester?
[11:04] <Braxis> test or tester
[11:04] <chowmeined> Braxis, its one of the options on the ubuntu livecd
[11:04] <ianmcorvidae> memtest86, Braxis
[11:05] <chowmeined> Braxis, at the boot menu
[11:05] <Braxis> Ah alright
[11:05] <ianmcorvidae> Yep.
[11:07] <rolfen> guys what is the gnome imitation of the mac expos?
[11:07] <rolfen> what was it's name again?
[11:07] <wepeel> hi all. I'm trying to use apt-get to install something, and I'm being asked for my install cd. How do I force aptitude to get whatever it needs from the internet...and why does it need my cd anyway?
[11:07] <chowmeined> rolfen, there isnt a 'gnome imitation'
[11:08] <chowmeined> rolfen, there is beryl which can do expose-ish things by using a plugin, but it does a bunch of other things that mac doesnt have
[11:08] <rolfen> chowmeined: i mean the thing that looks exactly like the mac expose, that shows icons on the botton of the screen
[11:08] <chowmeined> rolfen, you mean the dock?
[11:08] <Braxis> Haha, oh wow
[11:08] <Braxis> Yeah this memory is fucked hard :(
[11:08] <chowmeined> Braxis, ?
[11:09] <rolfen> chowmeined: chowmeined uh actually yeah i think i was talking about the dock
[11:09] <Braxis> over NINE THOUSAND errors
[11:09] <chowmeined> ouch
[11:09] <rolfen> chowmeined: sorry i'm not a mac guy
[11:09] <Braxis> Well not really... about 500 right now
[11:09] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[11:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:09] <chowmeined> Braxis, im at work
[11:09] <chowmeined> rolfen, i dont know, i havent used it
[11:09] <Braxis> Cool can you buy me some cheap sdram with that paycheck ;)
[11:09] <chowmeined> i get minimum wage
[11:09] <Braxis> :(
[11:10] <rolfen> chowmeined: i know there is one for linux too, i just forgot the name and was wondering if anyone here knew it... never mind i'll google.. thanks!
[11:10] <chowmeined> rolfen, yea ive seen it.. but i dont remember what it was
[11:10] <wepeel> does anyone know why aptitude would ask for my install cd and how can I force that not to happen?
[11:10] <TaJMoX> rolfen: avant window navigator
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> wepeel: Did you add it to your sources at some time..
[11:11] <rolfen> TaJMoX: yeah that's it! thanks
[11:11] <TaJMoX> awn is neato but it requires composite effects
[11:11] <wepeel> Jack_Sparrow: let me take a look
[11:11] <rolfen> TaJMoX: I have  beryl if that's what you mean
[11:11] <TaJMoX> wepeel - remove the cdrom from your sources list
[11:11] <TaJMoX> rolfen yes
[11:12] <TaJMoX> wepeel - i mean repository sources list
[11:12] <Egalfire> wepeel what are you trying to do?
[11:12] <wepeel> Egalfire: just install pdftk
[11:12] <rolfen> TaJMoX: cool
[11:12] <wepeel> TaJMoX: I understood ya :)
[11:12] <Jerome_> What plugin do you guys use for flash?