[15:30] <akik> ardi: / is the root directory i.e. top most directory "cd /"
[15:31] <ardi> grep Exec /usr/share/applications/winusbgui.desktop
[15:31] <ardi> nothing happened
[15:31] <CoreM_> UBUNTU IS ANY GOOD ?
[15:31] <EriC^^> ardi: you need to understand a couple of stuff, usually the binary files of the package are in /usr/bin , and to launch them, the system uses .desktop files that contain info about the command to run, icon etc. in /usr/share/applications , and these are the stuff that show up in your menu or dash if using unity
[15:31] <gnumonk> hi
[15:31] <gnumonk> after installing libpam-radius-auth libpam-tacplus , passwd command is not wokring ?
[15:31] <akik> ardi: you could try running "sudo winusbgui" from the terminal
[15:32] <gnumonk> is there anyway to disable that ?
[15:32] <EriC^^> ardi: if it's a command line program you can just type the name of the program in the terminal and it looks for the first binary that matches it in /usr/bin and other locations
[15:32] <CoreM_> ANY STUPID HERE ?
[15:32] <akik> !winusb
[15:32] <hans_> hi
[15:32] <EriC^^> ardi: are you sure?
[15:33] <EriC^^> ardi: type cat /usr/share/applications/winusbgui.desktop | nc cwillu.com 10101
[15:33] <EriC^^> it should give you a link to a paste
[15:33] <hans_> i have install a daktheme and now i cant see what i type in the spotify search bar
[15:33] <gnumonk> any idea?
[15:33] <EriC^^> ardi: winusb should be somewhere in the menu under system tools if you're using xubuntu or lubuntu
[15:34] <rahuldev> EriC^^, if i know the name of all files that I want to recover, will it be easierd
[15:34] <rahuldev> ?
[15:34] <CoreM_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[15:34] <CoreM_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[15:34] <CoreM_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[15:35] <rahuldev> EriC^^, , it's name is like this "TGC_9373_Lect11_BuildingBetterVocab.m4v"
[15:35] <ash_work> where can I get info on what the columns mean on dpkg -l ?
[15:35] <EriC^^> rahuldev: ok, type hexdump -C /path/to/TGC..... | head | nc cwillu.com 10101
[15:35] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[15:35] <ash_work> oooo
[15:35] <ash_work> I got it :P
[15:36] <EriC^^> rahuldev: no it won't help as photorec only searches for the file's header and copies the file
[15:36] <Fuchs> B
[15:36] <rahuldev> EriC^^, ok but I doesn't know the path!
[15:36] <rahuldev> EriC^^, ok
[15:36] <EriC^^> rahuldev: the path to the file
[15:37] <rahuldev> EriC^^, that is inside 2-3 folder i forget that folder name :(
[15:37] <rahuldev> EriC^^, have u used extundelete
[15:38] <EriC^^> rahuldev: type find -iname "*.m4v"
[15:39] <Melbatje> Heey there, is it possible to create a ubuntu image so i can just restore my settings from my ubuntu pc or install it on another desktop?
[15:39] <EriC^^> rahuldev: not much
[15:39] <rahuldev> EriC^^, in second hard disk but I think .m4v files are delete
[15:39] <zykotick9> ash_work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18804/what-do-the-various-dpkg-flags-like-ii-rc-mean
[15:39] <EriC^^> rahuldev: you don't have any other m4v file?
[15:40] <rahuldev> EriC^^, today i tried to recovered my data using windows, but it recovered as corrupeted m4v file..
[15:41] <rahuldev> mean the video recovered, only plays for 4-5 seconds ;(
[15:41] <rahuldev> EriC^^, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/122305/undelete-a-just-deleted-file-on-ext4-with-extundelete
[15:41] <rahuldev> EriC^^, IN 2ND comment they mentioned by date we can recover! I lost data morning 8:30
[15:42] <xpistos> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13826351/
[15:42] <SirMoo> Tried the ppa drivers for nvidia 355... No change. :(
[15:42] <Melbatje> Heey there, is it possible to create a ubuntu image so i can just restore my settings from my ubuntu pc or install it on another desktop?
[15:42] <SirMoo> Still a login loop
[15:43] <Bernzel> I'm so used to Photoshop and CAN'T turn to GIMP cause it drives me mad. What other software's are there for Linux that are much more alike Photoshop?
[15:43] <EriC^^> rahuldev: ok, try hexdump -C on the corrupted file
[15:43] <rahuldev> Eric ok
[15:43] <EriC^^> i found this on one of the files on my pc "... ftypM4VH...."
[15:43] <daftykins> xpistos: looks good, and "sudo apt-get clean" and check "df -i" again
[15:43] <EriC^^> so we can compare
[15:45] <xpistos> daftykins: Now it is 32%! I ran the apt-get -f install and got this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/13826392/
[15:45] <develooper> guys how can i check my keyboard issue , is it hardware related or not ?
[15:45] <SirMoo> Anyone else have any other options to fix the login loop caused by drivers? :(
[15:45] <EriC^^> develooper: what issue?
[15:46] <develooper> When I try to press 7 key it writes as 9
[15:46] <develooper> Also left shift is not working
[15:46] <develooper> and the super key
[15:46] <rahuldev> EriC^^, data is keep printing...
[15:46] <EriC^^> develooper: type xev and check what it says
[15:46] <rahuldev> not stoping
[15:46] <develooper> my laptop didn't get any damage
[15:46] <develooper> super key writes ~
[15:47] <EriC^^> rahuldev: press ctrl+c , type hexdump -C /path/to/m4v | head
[15:47] <develooper> EriC^^: KeyRelease event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x4a00001,     root 0xbb, subw 0x0, time 1407797, (-401,341), root:(386,393),     state 0x10, keycode 81 (keysym 0xffb9, KP_9), same_screen YES,     XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (39) "9"     XFilterEvent returns: False
[15:47] <EriC^^> you pressed 7 or 9?
[15:48] <develooper> seven
[15:48] <develooper> also left shit not gives a heartbeat
[15:48] <rahuldev> EriC^^, this one is better
[15:48] <develooper> EriC^^: can we sure that it's hardware related ?
[15:48] <EriC^^> develooper: it says keycode 81 is pageup here
[15:48] <rahuldev> EriC^^, getting ..ftypM4V...
[15:49] <develooper> EriC^^: yes numpad pageup
[15:49] <EriC^^> develooper: type xmodmap -pke | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:49] <EriC^^> develooper: type xmodmap -pke | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[15:49] <develooper> EriC^^: what's that ?
[15:49] <EriC^^> termbin is down
[15:50] <rahuldev> ....ftypM4V ...
[15:50] <EriC^^> it's the keycode map
[15:50] <rahuldev> isomavc1mp42....
[15:50] <rahuldev> moov...lmvhd....
[15:50] <EriC^^> rahuldev: ok, great it's like mine
[15:50] <rahuldev> same same
[15:50] <develooper> EriC^^: okay you have wrote two commands which one should i try ?
[15:50] <EriC^^> so we need to add it to photorec, type nano ~/.photorec.sig
[15:50] <EriC^^> develooper: the 2nd
[15:51] <develooper> thanks EriC^^ but what it makes ?
[15:51] <develooper> exactly ?
[15:51] <EriC^^> it shows the keycode map and uploads it to a pastebin
[15:51] <EriC^^> this is mine for reference to see if yours is off http://sprunge.us/gFSf
[15:51] <rahuldev> EriC^^, photorec is still working
[15:52] <develooper> EriC^^: not working  sorry
[15:52] <develooper> i tihnk sprunge.us blocked in our country
[15:52] <EriC^^> develooper: ok, do you have pastebinit installed?
[15:52] <daftykins> xpistos: ah i guess it wants it back! :) you'll need to install linux-headers-3.2.0-94-generic-pae if it works
[15:52] <rahuldev> EriC^^, .photorec.cfg file opened
[15:52] <xpistos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13826627/
[15:52] <develooper> pastebin is also blocked here, I don't have dns configuration about it yet on this pc
[15:53] <develooper> ubuntu.pastebin works
[15:53] <develooper> how can I change that command for it
[15:54] <EriC^^> develooper: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:54] <EriC^^> then xmodmap -pke | pastebinit
[15:54] <daftykins> xpistos: that's the same output as before?
[15:54] <develooper> ok just for ubuntu.com domain right ?
[15:54] <EriC^^> rahuldev: it's .photorec.sig
[15:54] <EriC^^> not .cfg
[15:54] <xpistos> no
[15:54] <xpistos> daftykins: before it was saying no disk space
[15:54] <EriC^^> rahuldev: it shouldn't be there yet
[15:55] <EriC^^> develooper: yeah
[15:55] <daftykins> xpistos: well you were out of inodes, but not anymore? double check with "df -h"
[15:55] <xpistos> daftykins: how do I install that?
[15:55] <xpistos> daftykins: the inodes are at 32% now
[15:55] <daftykins> xpistos: yes but "df -h" is different :) that's standard disk space, not inodes
[15:55] <develooper> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13826695/
[15:56] <daftykins> xpistos: try "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.2.0-94-generic-pae
[15:56] <rahuldev> EriC^^, got it i've to create .photorec.sig file
[15:56] <rahuldev> done
[15:56] <develooper> EriC^^:  any problem on my keymap
[15:56] <xpistos> daftykins: when i try to install it, it says i hav eto run apt-get install -f again
[15:57] <daftykins> xpistos: show me the output
[15:57] <develooper> How can I make sure , is it about hardware exactly ?
[15:58] <EriC^^> develooper: it looks like mine after a quick glance
[15:58] <xpistos> daftykins: same out put http://paste.ubuntu.com/13826627/
[15:58] <develooper> EriC^^:  by the way I tried to write 7 on boot menu
[15:58] <develooper> It gives 9 as output
[15:58] <daftykins> xpistos: no you keep showing me 'sudo apt-get -f install' but i want to see "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.2.0-94-generic-pae"
[15:58] <EriC^^> develooper: well you can try to see how the keyboard works in the bios
[15:58] <develooper> EriC^^: Can I make sure really hardware problem ?
[15:59] <EriC^^> develooper: and maybe grub, so you have less stuff involved
[15:59] <ItsMeLenny> is there anyway i can start a single program up using a different window manager?
[16:00] <develooper> EriC^^: thanks but I don't know how can I make sure about hardware issues, also how can I make grub about this issues.
[16:00] <develooper> thanks
[16:01] <xpistos> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13826854/
[16:01] <EriC^^> develooper: when the pc boots, hold shift to get grub, then press c to get a command line , make sure numlock isn't on it works there too
[16:01] <MarderIII> ItsMeLenny: fiddle with .xinitrc?
[16:02] <daftykins> xpistos: you see the output has changed, now it wants linux-headers-3.2.0-94
[16:02] <develooper> EriC^^: thanks
[16:02] <xpistos> daftykins: yes, when I try to install that I get iut wants the generic-pae
[16:02] <develooper> EriC^^: left shift or right shit for hold ?
[16:02] <EriC^^> develooper: left shift
[16:02] <develooper> so left shift not working
[16:02] <ItsMeLenny> MarderIII, not quite what i want
[16:02] <develooper> er :)
[16:03] <EriC^^> develooper: try esc, or right shift might work
[16:03] <develooper> ok
[16:03] <develooper> thanks
[16:03] <EriC^^> esc is for grub legacy
[16:03] <develooper> I will check
[16:03] <xpistos> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13826913/
[16:04] <rahuldev> EriC^^, what can I write in .photorec.sig file?
[16:05] <win32> EriC^^ Expert =D
[16:05] <daftykins> xpistos: no you ran the install of -generic-pae
[16:05] <MarderIII> Then no, you can't 😕
[16:05] <daftykins> xpistos: you need to read the output carefully
[16:06] <rahuldev> win32, True EriC^^ is expert!
[16:06] <xpistos> daftykins: the second part of that was the sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.2.0-94
[16:06] <EriC^^> rahuldev: m4v 0 0x00000020667479704d345648000000
[16:07] <odroid> hi
[16:07] <daftykins> xpistos: alright; "sudo dpkg -r linux-headers-generic-pae" then "sudo apt-get -f install" in a paste
[16:07] <rahuldev> EriC^^ ok!
[16:08] <rahuldev> EriC^^, how did you come up with this number?
[16:08] <win32> rahuldev, i see always he it's Active to support ppl :D
[16:08] <win32> :=D
[16:08] <EriC^^> rahuldev: from hexdump -C
[16:08] <xpistos> daftykins: that looks like a winner - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13827037/
[16:09] <EriC^^> rahuldev: save it, then try fidentify /path/to/m4v , if it worked it should say m4v at the end
[16:09] <daftykins> xpistos: ok and "dpkg -l | grep linux-" again
[16:10] <xpistos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13827078/
[16:10] <xpistos> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13827078/
[16:10] <z3p3r> hello
[16:10] <rahuldev> Eric, 0x000...20  your number starts with 20 my number 0x000..1c.. starts with 1c all other numbers are same
[16:11] <xpistos> daftykins: so now should I try and do a regular upgrade?
[16:11] <EriC^^> rahuldev: hmm type hexdump -C /path/to/m4v | head | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[16:11] <EriC^^> rahuldev: maybe we can give photorec an offset of where to start so it just looks for that m4v part
[16:11] <rahuldev> EriC^^, I typed fidentify file00.M4V and it said mov
[16:11] <daftykins> xpistos: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic"
[16:12] <daftykins> !info linux-generic precise
[16:12] <EriC^^> rahuldev: here it says the same
[16:12] <develooper> EriC^^: I try in grub command line
[16:12] <daftykins> ok so 95 is current
[16:12] <develooper> EriC^^: I writes as 9 when pressed 7
[16:13] <develooper> Is it really hardware problem now ?
[16:13] <xpistos> daftykins: the install is talking about -95
[16:13] <daftykins> xpistos: yep that's the plan
[16:13] <rahuldev> EriC^^, http://sprunge.us/ZdDb
[16:14] <rahuldev> EriC^^, yes we can give offset of start!
[16:14] <rahuldev> EriC^^, from you I learned how to use data recovery softwares in linux :)
[16:15] <xpistos> daftykins: that completed without an issue but it did say "Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported." But that isn't an issue if I am correct.
[16:16] <xpistos> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13827230/
[16:16] <daftykins> xpistos: yep all normal
[16:16] <xpistos> daftykins: good. so now I will try and run the update and upgrade
[16:17] <venttura> exit
[16:17] <daftykins> xpistos: you'll need linux-headers-generic-pae back on
[16:17] <rahuldev> EriC^^, so I go with 1c offset!
[16:17] <rahuldev> ?
[16:18] <xpistos> daftykins: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic-pae" ?
[16:18] <daftykins> obviously :P
[16:18] <xpistos> daftykins: done. no issue
[16:19] <daftykins> xpistos: and now the "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:19] <EriC^^> rahuldev: add m4v 4 0x667479704d3456
[16:20] <rahuldev> I put
[16:20] <rahuldev> m4v 4 0x667479704d3456
[16:20] <rahuldev> like that
[16:21] <develooper> EriC^^: I have tested on grub command line
[16:21] <develooper> EriC^^: it writes 7 as 9
[16:21] <develooper> EriC^^: Is it really hardware problem ?
[16:22] <rahuldev> Eric, my ubuntu also picked ntfs partition how can navigate there by commandline
[16:22] <EriC^^> rahuldev: yeah
[16:23] <develooper> EriC^^: command line gives the result about hardware exactly ?
[16:23] <EriC^^> develooper: let me see 1 thing
[16:23] <EriC^^> you said you pressed 7 and it gave keycode 81
[16:24] <EriC^^> which is the keypad 9
[16:24] <EriC^^> i'd think it's hardware if it also does it in grub too
[16:25] <EriC^^> basically the os thinks you pressed the keypad 9 button
[16:25] <rahuldev> EriC^^, I started photorec and crossed the custom signatures. is everything right!
[16:25] <EriC^^> you can be 100% sure if you try in the bios, somewhere it says put the clock or something and it also does the same
[16:25] <EriC^^> rahuldev: did fidentify work?
[16:25] <moses> hi, i'm unable to download anything from software centre
[16:25] <develooper> EriC^^: thanks
[16:26] <rahuldev> fidentify how?
[16:26] <EriC^^> rahuldev: fidentify /path/to/m4v
[16:26] <develooper> EriC^^: Can I unplug and plug keyboard via ubuntu on my laptop ?
[16:26] <develooper> fake unplug and plug
[16:27] <develooper> like windows os hardwre unplug system
[16:27] <rahuldev> EriC^^, is I need to check it again, I mean we checked long time ago
[16:27] <EriC^^> rahuldev: yeah to make sure it picks up the file
[16:27] <rahuldev> ok
[16:28] <Globalirc> hello all
[16:28] <moses> can anyone suggest?
[16:28] <moses> i'm unable to download anything from software centre
[16:28] <compdoc> moses, what do you use for dns server addresses?
[16:28] <EriC^^> develooper: it wouldn't help i think
[16:29] <Globalirc> i have a dedicated server on ubuntu 15.04 i can make multiple vps on this system ?
[16:29] <rahuldev> Eric unknown :(
[16:29] <EriC^^> develooper: which laptop do you have?
[16:29] <OerHeks> moses, what ubuntu version ?
[16:29] <develooper> EriC^^: dell 7537
[16:29] <Walex> Globalirc: most likely
[16:30] <moses> ubuntu 15.10
[16:30] <moses> where can I find the dns server addresses
[16:30] <Globalirc> Walex: were i can start ? you have a link with a tutorial ?
[16:30] <EriC^^> rahuldev: type cat -E ~/.photorec.sig | pastebinit
[16:31] <nmee> Hi, after upgrading from Ubuntu 14.04.2 to 14.04.3, Xen fails to start any VMs with the message "unable to add disk devices" (full message at http://pastie.org/10618458). I can mount the disks manually OK. any ideas on what could cause this?
[16:31] <bonsaienthusiast> can somebody help me with this. get these errors while trying to pip install mysqlclient: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13827528/
[16:32] <EriC^^> develooper: you could try cleaning the keyboard maybe, it seems new laptops are easy to switch the keyboard on
[16:32] <EriC^^> mine comes off with 1 screw and a little pushing outward ( it's an hp pavilion g6 )
[16:33] <xpistos> daftykins: Looks good.
[16:33] <xpistos> daftykins: thanks for all the help
[16:33] <daftykins> xpistos: np! reboot into the new -95 kernel of course :)
[16:33] <EriC^^> maybe put some rubbing alcohol on the wire from the keyboard or around the 7 area and let it dry completely
[16:34] <develooper> EriC^^: thanks i will try
[16:34] <EriC^^> or check ebay for a replacement one, they are tons there
[16:34] <nmee> bonsaienthusiast: try apt-get install libz-dev
[16:34] <rahuldev> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13827697/
[16:35] <bonsaienthusiast> nmee: thanks a bunch. did the trick
[16:35] <rahuldev> EriC^^, fidentify working with m4v file but working with .sig file!
[16:36] <nmee> bonsaienthusiast: np
[16:36] <EriC^^> rahuldev: you mean without .sig file?
[16:36] <moses> OerHeks: can you suggest
[16:36] <rahuldev> EriC^^, I mean fidentify photorec.sig - not working
[16:36] <rahuldev> why i type this command
[16:37] <EriC^^> rahuldev: i meant fidentify /path/to/m4v
[16:37] <EriC^^> :D
[16:37] <rahuldev> with .m4v files :D
[16:37] <petar_> hi
[16:37] <rahuldev> I was trying .sig file!
[16:37] <rahuldev> EriC^^, now everything is right set?
[16:37] <moses>  i'm unable to download anything from software centre
[16:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[16:38] <EriC^^> moses: try sudo apt-get update in a terminal
[16:38] <k1l> moses: "lsb_release -d"  what output do you get?
[16:38] <petar_> ping
[16:38] <rahuldev> EriC^^, Thanks so much, You're really so much helpful!
[16:38] <rahuldev> you were helping me from 2 hours
[16:38] <EriC^^> rahuldev: no problem
[16:38] <moses> Failed to download repository information
[16:38] <EriC^^> :)
[16:39] <moses> W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::19 80]
[16:39] <k1l> moses: 14.10 is dead since july. upgrade to the next ubuntu version
[16:39] <k1l> !eolupgrade  | moses
[16:40] <xpistos> daftykins: and just to confirm, rebooted and on -95
[16:40] <moses> thanks
[16:40] <xpistos> daftykins: thanks again my friend.
[16:40] <daftykins> xpistos: \o/
[16:40] <daftykins> my pleasure :)
[16:46] <Anthaas> Im having some problems trying to edit some files via sftp using SublimeText - I am getting permission denied.
[16:46] <reveal> what are the permissions on the files you are editing
[16:46] <reveal> that would be the first place to check
[16:46] <jon__> hey folks, I have a problem! This is related to upgrading from ubuntu15.04 to 15.10. The screen resolution is too high for the monitor; the unity menu is missing; windows have no decorations. Any thoughs on how I can fix this? Thanks!
[16:50] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am having an issue getting SMART data from a disk.
[16:51] <Dresk|Laptop> What would be the command line option to disable the screen from turning off due to inactivity?  I recently rebuilt my app with a newer version of SDL which idles even when rendering a fullscreen OpenGL window, since now it detects no input
[16:51] <OneM_Industries> I know has SMART capability, but every time I try to test it, I get "SELF-TEST FAILED".
[16:51] <Anthaas> reveal, permissions are 2755
[16:52] <OneM_Industries> It usually does this around the 90% mark, at read.
[16:52] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: what about just reading the data? the SMART tests are pointless imo.
[16:52] <daftykins> "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX"
[16:52] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[16:53] <OneM_Industries> Hm, 16 current pending sectors. Nothing to worry about.
[16:53] <OneM_Industries> Thank you!
[16:53] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: actually that is something to worry about; haven't we had this conversation before?
[16:54] <daftykins> show the full output in a pastebin
[16:54] <OneM_Industries> Different drive.
[16:54] <daftykins> different than what?
[16:54] <daftykins> what you stated, if true, means the disk is dead
[16:54] <Anthaas> removed s from group
[16:55] <OerHeks> Dresk|Laptop, sudo xset s 0 0
[16:55] <Dresk|Laptop> OerHeks: Thanks, taking a look
[16:55] <kappa1> hi! I want to make an executable accessible from any directory, how can I do it without any root access to the machine?
[16:55] <OneM_Industries> Well, you can still get data off the drive.
[16:56] <Anthaas> kappa1, add it to your ~/bin directory (most likely)
[16:56] <OneM_Industries> And put data on it.
[16:56] <Anthaas> A lot of systems add ~/bin (when created) to the $PATH
[16:56] <daftykins> kappa1: or modify your own PATH envvar
[16:56] <OneM_Industries> Although, this machine does refuse to power on with a BSOD...
[16:56] <OneM_Industries> http://pastebin.com/HTXsjtta
[16:56] <Anthaas> or what daftykins suggested - although I'd cat your ~/.bash_profile to see if it has been added first.
[16:57] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: boot, not power on? :)
[16:57] <Anthaas> Im having some problems trying to edit some files via sftp using SublimeText - I am getting permission denied. The permission on the folder (and all files inside) is 755
[16:57] <OneM_Industries> Boot.
[16:57] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: right but you shouldn't allow someone to keep using it.
[16:57] <OneM_Industries> Thank you.
[16:57] <OneM_Industries> They won't fork out for a new one.
[16:58] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: i really hope you don't ask these people for money, for your time... when you get us to help every time
[16:58] <OneM_Industries> Family tech support.
[16:59] <OneM_Industries> Always.
[16:59] <daftykins> lets check the ol' warranty just in case...
[17:00] <OneM_Industries> Because I am comfortable actually using IRC/googling it, I am tech support for everyone in the family.
[17:00] <daftykins> nope that one went out of warranty april 2014, dead duck :)
[17:01] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: you could actually back it up, zero fill it to force every bad sector to be found... then possibly keep using it if it's not bad and spreading.
[17:01] <motaka2> ioria: Hello, this lubuntu-desktop rocks
[17:01] <motaka2> super fast
[17:03] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: How did you find that out?
[17:03] <OneM_Industries> Just wondering.
[17:03] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: i do this for a living.
[17:03] <OneM_Industries> Heh.
[17:03] <OneM_Industries> And I am trying to bug you guys less.
[17:04] <daftykins> i had not noticed :D
[17:04] <EriC^^> xD
[17:04] <OneM_Industries> Heh.
[17:04] <daftykins> seriously though, that drive is unlikely just going to get worse
[17:04] <OneM_Industries> Yeah.
[17:04] <daftykins> er *likely
[17:04] <daftykins> silly fingers o0
[17:04] <OneM_Industries> I might get Grandma a new drive a a christmas gift...
[17:05] <OneM_Industries> Seriously, how did you figure that out though?
[17:05] <Guest44692> ciao
[17:06] <daftykins> Sectors requiring remap are typically discovered when a drive encounters data not writing to them properly, windows must've updated and put some data in a sensitive area, which has since corrupted causing the BSODs at boot. It stands to reason that writing to every single sector will force remaps to run through and all bad sectors to be found, since it'll write to every single one
[17:06] <OneM_Industries> True.
[17:06] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: manufacturer diagnostics software actually does this as a testing method, Western Digital (that drives' brand) has this as an option on their Data Lifeguard software (DLG)
[17:07] <Anthaas> "True" lol
[17:07] <OneM_Industries> Problem is, I don't have a large enough spare drive for the data.
[17:07] <daftykins> but sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=2M ; achieves the same
[17:07] <daftykins> is it really full?
[17:08] <EriC^^> i think badblocks can help, it has a non-destructive test i think
[17:09] <Anthaas> Can someone help me fix my issue - I am trying to save a file via SFTP using SublimeText 3 - and am getting "Permission Denied". The folder's permissions are 755. Owner is root, group is "webusers". I am pushing using a user within the webusers group.
[17:09] <OneM_Industries> Holy ****.
[17:10] <EriC^^> Anthaas: 5 for the group is read + exec
[17:10] <EriC^^> read = 4 , write = 2, exec = 1
[17:12] <daftykins> ^ no write = no save.
[17:12] <OneM_Industries> Grandma has surveillance video from 2010 on this drive.
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> that's a trendy grandma
[17:13] <EriC^^> this is a bit inappropriate for the channel, having said that, surveillance footage of what?
[17:14] <daftykins> probably unwise to check, remember... you can't unsee...
[17:14] <Anthaas> daftykins, EriC^^ changed it to 777 - same issue.
[17:14] <daftykins> Anthaas: ugh that's not what we said.
[17:15] <daftykins> Anthaas: i bet you've added your user to that group without logging out and in to reflect the changes hmm?
[17:15] <daftykins> and never use 777.
[17:15] <Anthaas> daftykins, Nope, I have logged out - and this is a very local private server - I don't plan on keeping it at 777
[17:15] <EriC^^> they should have made it 666, so people think twice before using chmod 666 , 777 seems so non-threatening
[17:15] <daftykins> :>
[17:15] <Anthaas> I was just checking to see if it would fix giving all permissions.
[17:16] <daftykins> bad practice++
[17:16] <Anthaas> I know
[17:16] <Anthaas> I am trying to identify why I am having Permission Failed
[17:16] <daftykins> either your user isn't correctly in that group, or these permissions aren't being applied successfully
[17:16] <daftykins> check the ownership of the parent folder as well as the individual files
[17:16] <OneM_Industries> Video of the outside of her old house.
[17:16] <OneM_Industries> Wonderful.
[17:18] <OneM_Industries> Why she needs 300+GB of that, I do not know.
[17:18] <raven54_> how to use IRC common syntax??
[17:19] <daftykins> raven54_: #freenode can help with IRC queries, this is OS support.
[17:19] <Casper-> raven54_: http://www.ircbeginner.com/
[17:20] <raven54_> server:#hackerrank
[17:20] <lnxmen> Hello, I have NVIDIA Optimus. Until now I used generally NVIDIA, so I don't have any idea what would go wrong. Anyway, ubuntu working on intel card (i915) seems to consume a lot of energy (25W) and cannot set right resolution.
[17:20] <raven54_> #freenode
[17:20] <Anthaas> raven54, its /join [channel]
[17:20] <Anthaas> where channel could be #freenode
[17:20] <tilpner> lnxmen - Do you happen to have a new Intel processor?
[17:20] <lnxmen> Last time, power discharging was about 10-11W on intel, so I know it would be better than now.
[17:21] <tilpner> Like... Skylake-new?
[17:21] <lnxmen> tilpner: no. Model name:            Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2820QM CPU @ 2.30GHz
[17:21] <Anthaas> Right
[17:21] <daftykins> sandybridge
[17:22] <Anthaas> I am modifying some files over SFTP (as you know), and they are located in /home/anthaas/folder - setting 775 on /home doesn't seem a smart idea - what could/should I do?
[17:22] <daftykins> lnxmen: /var/log/Xorg.0.log probably speaks of nouveau making use of the nvidia chip.
[17:22] <Casper-> raven54:   /j #freenode
[17:22] <lnxmen> daftykins: NVIDIA works fine...
[17:22] <raven54> ok got it......
[17:23] <Casper-> raven54: or (if u are using hexchat)  u can right click on #freenode , and click "join channel"
[17:23] <daftykins> lnxmen: what do you mean? optimus setups often work by the nvidia chip drawing to the screen via the intel chip, if you have an implementation where you get to pick which is used in the BIOS, then that's different.
[17:23] <reveal> Anthaas: why not 644
[17:24] <daftykins> 644 = group read only, which is not what we were asked.
[17:24] <reveal> Anthaas: or you can chmod 700 /home/anthaas/folder
[17:25] <lnxmen> daftykins: Okay, I did not know that. If this is important, I am using proprietary drivers for NVIDIA (nvidia-358).
[17:25] <reveal> daftykins: actually they asked for alternatives to 755 and 644 is an alternative
[17:25] <Anthaas> reveal, 700 would also mean the group cannot modify the files inside.
[17:25] <lnxmen> And Xorg log does not contain errors related to GPU.
[17:25] <reveal> Anthaas: is this a shared folder for other users to access
[17:25] <Anthaas> Yes
[17:26] <Anthaas> I am beginning web development
[17:26] <Anthaas> with a friend
[17:26] <reveal> then create a group
[17:26] <Anthaas> I ahve
[17:26] <reveal> and add them to the group
[17:26] <Anthaas> webusers
[17:26] <Anthaas> which I have
[17:26] <reveal> and chown blah.webusers /some/dir
[17:26] <EriC^^> Anthaas: use a random dir outside your home dir
[17:26] <EriC^^> Anthaas: like /var/ourwebstuff or something
[17:26] <daftykins> reveal: mmm not what the original question was, nevermind... i'm not gonna fight it :)
[17:27] <reveal> daftykins: sorry i misread it then
[17:27] <Jan\> hey whats the command to extract a zip archive ?
[17:27] <Anthaas> EriC^^, What would be a sensible permissions octal for /var then?
[17:27] <reveal> Jan\: unzip
[17:30] <lnxmen> Anthaas: 775
[17:31] <pandaboy> Il y a des français ici ? x)
[17:31] <EriC^^> Anthaas: i'd make it chmod 1770
[17:31] <Anthaas> Why 0?
[17:32] <pandaboy> Je me sens seul en vrai putain.
[17:32] <daftykins> !fr
[17:32] <EriC^^> Anthaas: well the 1 doesn't make sense anymore cause it's just you 2 using it
[17:33] <EriC^^> Anthaas: it's not common practice or so i was just thinking, maybe chmod 770 with chown root:webusers
[17:33] <EriC^^> Anthaas: 0 so nobody else can view the files except for you and him
[17:34] <Anthaas> EriC^^, that wouldn't stop people from being able to use a browser to find the files, would it?
[17:34] <EriC^^> no if the main dir is 0 they can't list the files or access anything in it
[17:38] <EriC^^> Anthaas: you could also make use of the sticky bit and have whatever files you create come up under your user, and whatever files he creates under his, that way things are more organized of what was added etc
[17:38] <EriC^^> ( i guess, i'm not sure about common web development practices )
[17:39] <EriC^^> Anthaas: chmod 1770 , then chown root:webusers
[17:39] <EriC^^> you won't be able to delete his files, and he won't be able to delete yours, but you'd both be able to read them
[17:40] <reveal> EriC^^: what they did chmod 0660 for files 2770 for directories and umask 007
[17:40] <EriC^^> reveal: you mean the web development?
[17:41] <reveal> yeah
[17:41] <reveal> what if they did=/what they did
[17:41] <EriC^^> 2770 would let any files created have the same group of the group of the dir
[17:41] <Anthaas> We want to be able to edit each others files
[17:43] <EriC^^> reveal: that makes sense
[17:43] <reveal> heeh
[17:44] <EriC^^> reveal: if every different user logged in that way they could all modify eachother files
[17:44] <reveal> not if they arent in the group
[17:44] <EriC^^> well yeah
[17:45] <EriC^^> Anthaas: i think you should do chmod 2770
[17:45] <EriC^^> with chown root:webusers
[17:46] <Dresk|Laptop> OerHeks: Using the xset command line doesn't seem to affect what the GUI power manager shows
[17:46] <zertyui> hi htere
[17:46] <Dresk|Laptop> OerHeks: I guess I should be clear that I am using the Xfce "Power Management" which has a checkbox to allow for its use or not
[17:46] <zertyui> i try to to make sysmlink
[17:46] <EriC^^> reveal: you work in web development stuff?
[17:47] <reveal> ehh i dabble here and there
[17:47] <zertyui> between /var/log/apache
[17:47] <zertyui> and dedicate fs on /mnt/part2
[17:47] <hdon_> hi all :) i'm booting ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 iso and i'm getting a 32-bit kernel!
[17:47] <zertyui> after ln -s /var/log/apache /mnt/part2
[17:47] <EriC^^> hdon_: type uname -m
[17:48] <hdon_> this sucks because i'm trying to use it to rescue a 64-bit system, and i can't run the 64-bit binaries!
[17:48] <hdon_> EriC^^: it's i686
[17:48] <EriC^^> what makes you think it's a x86_64 iso?
[17:48] <thepeter> Hi all
[17:49] <EriC^^> hdon_: what are you trying to rescue exactly? grub?
[17:49] <zertyui> i can able able to access to my /var/log/apache throught my sysmlink on /mnt/part2
[17:49] <zertyui> the same fs partition is accessible on my server 2
[17:50] <alessandro_> ciao
[17:50] <zertyui> where i can't cd to that symlik
[17:50] <reveal> what does /proc/cpuinfo tell you
[17:50] <zertyui> can anyone explain whyN
[17:50] <thepeter> I made small script to chcange resolution after I login sinceubuntu won't recognize monitor, and the script runs but with no effect (and when I run it manually it does its job) whe could be the problem please?
[17:50] <hdon_> EriC^^: hmm... well, i suppose the disk may be mislabeled... naively i assumed the disk came with both 64-bit and 32-bit binaries... it must be mislabeled
[17:50] <acetakwas> Is it safe to version control my .config directory in my home folder?
[17:51] <hdon_> EriC^^: not grub, per se. i have an old centos system with a raid1 that i've adjusted and the initramfs can no longer properly mount the array
[17:51] <anonyuser> I currently use Ubuntu 14.04.03 with GNOME 3.9.90 - is it possible to upgrade to the latest stable? is it safe enough?
[17:51] <tomasm-> anyone know what STA or AP mode is in regards to network wifi drivers? I have to compile my own to get my stick working, and people are saying to set STA mode in the Make file
[17:51] <hdon_> EriC^^: also the live ubuntu i'm booting doens't come with mdadm by default -- that seems silly for an install cd!
[17:52] <hdon_> i don't mean to complain, sorry :(
[17:53] <hdon_> it's easy enough to apt-get install mdadm but tedious to do it like four times, especially since it drags in postfix for the mdadm monitor
[17:53]  * thepeter created script to change resolution on monitor on starup which does the job when executed manually but when it runs at login (from .config/autostart directory) there is no effect
[17:54] <hdon_> thepeter: paste your script :)
[17:54] <daftykins> tomasm-: AP sounds like access point, STA reminds me of one of broadcom's drivers
[17:54] <hdon_> thepeter: please use a pastebin if it's multiple lines
[17:54] <hdon_> brb
[17:54] <tomasm-> standalone?
[17:54] <daftykins> tomasm-: what chipset does your device use?
[17:54] <tomasm-> realtek 2870
[17:55] <daftykins> ah no idea about that model.
[17:55] <tomasm-> I honestly just want a large range wifi usb stick to work in ubuntu. I have no luck with netgear's AC1200 or N900 so far... tho I swore I had the N900 (WNDA3100v3) work before
[17:56] <tomasm-> Need to find something that either walmart  or best buy sells
[17:56] <thepeter> hdon_: yop, ok
[17:56] <daftykins> tomasm-: see that's inherently flawed by definition; USB stick and good range, just no.
[17:56] <daftykins> tomasm-: is it for a desktop system?
[17:56] <tomasm-> daftykins, actually i had better range with the stick than I did with my internal wifi
[17:57] <tomasm-> daftykins, laptop
[17:57] <daftykins> that means nothing if you're using Linux as it goes.
[17:57] <tomasm-> daftykins, what do you mean?
[17:58] <daftykins> well a bad Linux driver could use a card poorly.
[17:58] <tomasm-> daftykins, well i just want a functional driver. no luck so far.
[17:59] <Anthaas> EriC^^, with 770, when accessing a HTML file through a browser, I get Forbidden - do not have permission to access / on the server.
[17:59] <daftykins> tomasm-: mmm, get a chipset that's compatible if you can
[18:00] <Anthaas> EriC^^, Oh wait, sorry, that is 775
[18:00] <EriC^^> Anthaas: did you logout and back in after adding yourself to the webusers group?
[18:00] <tomasm-> anyone know of a wifi stick that has simple linux driver support, something that wont take me hours to figure out? I just need something with better range than my internal wifi (which kinda sucks)
[18:00] <Anthaas> Yeah
[18:00] <EriC^^> Anthaas: 770 should work, 775 isn't needed and will let anyone access it
[18:00] <Anthaas> Added myself to the webusers group ages ago
[18:01] <tomasm-> daftykins, I would if I could find  something that I can drive to a store for. I don't know what will work until I try and fail
[18:01] <smerdyakow> hellow fellows. suspend is not working on my dell precision m6400 on ubuntu 15.10. I googled, nothing, what to do?
[18:01] <daftykins> tomasm-: well in the shop you need to look up the chipset used and then compatibility. i've seen atheros based stuff work well
[18:02] <EriC^^> Anthaas: oh, you mean you're accessing it like opening a webpage? from the web browser?
[18:03] <Anthaas> EriC^^, Yes
[18:03] <EriC^^> Anthaas: that doesn't really depend on you by default, the www-data user accesses stuff
[18:04] <EriC^^> Anthaas: if you're using apache, the default dir it starts in is /var/www/html
[18:04] <Anthaas> and the www-data user won't have permission to because they arent in the group
[18:04] <Anthaas> Yeah
[18:04] <EriC^^> so localhost/ , would be /var/www/html
[18:05] <EriC^^> Anthaas: you can add them as an acl to the dir i guess, but thene everybody with access to the machine can view the files
[18:07] <EriC^^> setfacl -m user:www-data:rx /var/www/html/<some dir> , if you want read + exec access
[18:08] <Anthaas> Right - this is getting quite confused now.
[18:08] <Anthaas> I have /var/www/html where all my files are.
[18:09] <Anthaas> I want myself and my friend to be able to rwx etc all files, I want anybody else to still be able to view them as a web page.
[18:09] <thepeter> hdon_: http://pastebin.com/T4bZmKiJ
[18:10] <bigtone_> anyone there?
[18:10] <thepeter> hdon_: I'll be back in an hour
[18:10] <bigtone_> i am wondering if anyone has experience setting up libreswan?
[18:13] <daftykins> bigtone_: better to ask the channel what you tried and what went wrong.
[18:13] <daftykins> +with
[18:15] <acetakwas> Is it safe to version control my .config directory in my home folder?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> bigtone_, /j #swan for advice
[18:16] <bigtone_> i have a vm on AWS that is running libreswan, it has a private ip that is natted to an elastic ip, I am trying to connect to a juniper device and the other side wants me to specify left and leftnexthop with the public eips  I am not sure if the traffic is getting to the other side I see traffic trying to get out
[18:16] <bigtone_> #swan
[18:16] <rypervenche> acetakwas: You can if you like, sure. You may find that it updates often and have to ignore some files/directories.
[18:17] <acetakwas> rypervenche::  Okay, thanks.
[18:18] <rypervenche> acetakwas: If using git, and you find it too annoying to keep track of, you can always simply remove the .git directory and it will no longer be version-controlled.
[18:19] <acetakwas> rypervenche::  thanks, I'll probably just gitignore most of them
[18:20] <acetakwas> I only need specific configs like Sublime-Text
[18:22] <guest138388> which channel on freenode can I ask question about network protocols?
[18:23] <EriC^^> guest138388: ##networking
[18:23] <guest138388> thanks (duh-doy)
[18:26] <Anthaas> So, I have some web development files (php, html, etc) in /var/www/html - I want these files to be visible to anybody using a web browser, but I would also like me and a friend to be able to edit them etc (rwx) - what permissions shoudl I give to which files/directories?
[18:27] <daftykins> i'd own them as www-data:www-data then add you and your friends user to the 'www-data' group.
[18:27] <daftykins> *friend
[18:28] <Anthaas> daftykins, would this allow us both to edit them over an SFTP connection?
[18:28] <Anthaas> ls -l
[18:28] <Anthaas> oops
[18:28] <daftykins> yes
[18:32] <libregeekingkid> could someone give me repos of xenial which I can add to my sources.list?
[18:32] <k1l> libregeekingkid: xenial ist in development phase. that will make your system unstable. you know that?
[18:33] <libregeekingkid> k1l: Yes I am aware of it.
[18:33] <libregeekingkid> k1l: I am trying to get them on web. Haven't found them yet
[18:33] <k1l> libregeekingkid: then join #ubuntu+1
[18:34] <Anthaas> daftykins, Permission denied on upload of file to /var/www/html (owned by root, group is www-data) by anthaas (a user in www-data) after a restart/relog
[18:35] <Anthaas> oh, you said to change the owner to www-data
[18:35] <Anthaas> oops
[18:35] <daftykins> Anthaas: i said www-data:www-data .
[18:36] <praeconium> I am having a weird issue with network, ifconfig gives only 'lo' while sudo lshw -c network gives only blinking 'USB', something is off with config.
[18:36] <swamp> Hello
[18:36] <praeconium> Anyone has an idea how to setup basic eth0? I am using 15.04
[18:37] <daftykins> you don't have a module loaded for whatever adapter you have, praeconium
[18:37] <rypervenche> praeconium: What does "ip a" give? (in pastebin please)
[18:37] <swamp> русские есть?
[18:37] <daftykins> praeconium: you're running it with -a right? ifconfig -a shows even downed interfaces.
[18:37] <k1l> !ru | swamp
[18:38] <praeconium> daftykins: yes, with an -a, what do You suggest for loading module?
[18:38] <daftykins> identifying what your NIC is to start with.
[18:38] <praeconium> rypervenche: I dont have internet on that computer
[18:38] <Anthaas> daftykins, still permission denied.
[18:38] <praeconium> But when I type ip I get 'Usage: ip [ OPTIONS ] OBJECT {COMMAND | help} ...'
[18:39] <daftykins> Anthaas: you're definitely doing something wrong - however i can't help right now
[18:39] <praeconium> daftykins: on initial install I had connection, then I installed openssh server, and ufw allow 22, and restarter. No connection since.
[18:39] <rypervenche> praeconium: Can you give us the number in [] from the following output please?: lspci -nn | grep Ether
[18:40] <rypervenche> praeconium: It should be two 4-digit numbers separated by a colon.
[18:40] <EriC^^> praeconium: you don't need ufw allow 22 by default
[18:42] <praeconium> rypervenche: I get many lines of two digits, but the last one is 04:0e.0 0c00: 1106:3044 (rec c0)
[18:42] <praeconium> EriC^^: Ok, how do You ssh to the machine then? :)
[18:43] <decci> Hello I have been working on building .DEB packages
[18:43] <rypervenche> praeconium: You also ran the grep part of the command I gave you?
[18:43] <decci> I have around 40 packages built
[18:44] <decci> Now there is a sequence which I need to follow to get it installed. I am thinking of building .DEB package which gets all these .DEB packages installed
[18:44] <praeconium> rypervenche: Yes.
[18:44] <praeconium> rypervenche: Sorry, had double ||
[18:44] <praeconium> I dont get any number
[18:45] <praeconium> Just new line in terminal
[18:45] <brucce> ola
[18:45] <decci> Since now I have been provided with precompiled source code for each components. Now for this .DEB package to be built, what is the process
[18:46] <brucce> donde estas
[18:46] <decci> Hello Guys
[18:46] <decci> Need a suggestion regarding .DEB package building
[18:46] <brucce> eu  sou brasileiro  and you
[18:46] <k1l> decci: #ubuntu-packaging
[18:46] <k1l> !br | brucce
[18:46] <ioria> praeconium, sudo lshw -c Network | grep product
[18:47] <brucce> ok
[18:47] <blackflow> Hello. Is there some known memory leak bug with long running Firefox and/or Chromium? My 4GB system (15.10) was very sluggish until I closed those two which released 3GB of RAM! starting them back, with same tabs back again, consumed only 1GB, meaning cca 2GB was obviously leaked.
[18:48] <praeconium> ioria: I get same blinking 'USB' and then new line in terminal
[18:48] <ioria> praeconium, it'a desktop ?
[18:48] <praeconium> ioria: yes
[18:49] <ioria> praeconium, integrated or pci card ?  ethernet i mean
[18:49] <praeconium> The weird thing is that without cable the switch has yellow on
[18:49] <praeconium> ioria: integrated, I think.
[18:50] <lnxmen> So, what would cause high power consumption? Normally, there is 11-12W, now its 30W.
[18:50] <ioria> praeconium, lspci | grep Ethern   , again please
[18:51] <praeconium> ioria: Just a new line in terminal
[18:51] <praeconium> No output
[18:51] <blackflow> in addition there's a zombie firefox process I cannot kill even with SIGKILL
[18:51] <ioria> praeconium, sorry... idk.... broken if integrated ... displaced if it's acard  ???
[18:52] <praeconium> Ok, in your opinion, there is no signal from the switch?
[18:52] <ioria> no
[18:52] <praeconium> Its weird because last night on first install I was browsing internet, that is why I doubt its broken. Will re-install now, what else to do..
[18:52] <ioria> praeconium, i mean, no sign in lspci... it's not a good sign
[18:53] <praeconium> I get that
[18:53] <praeconium> Thank You non the less
[18:53] <ioria> praeconium, check the slots ... i saw you have a Firewire ...
[18:54] <praeconium> ioria: its integrated, motherboard is in front of me, i can not change slot for it
[18:55] <ioria> praeconium, try  pci=use_crs,realloc  as kernel option ... but it's unlikely
[18:59] <blackflow> how do I kill a zombie process (state Z)? sudo kill -9 <pid> doesn't do anything
[19:01] <jpds> blackflow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuGjtlsKo4s
[19:01] <jpds> blackflow: https://askubuntu.com/questions/30891/is-there-any-way-to-kill-a-zombie-process-without-reboot
[19:02] <blackflow> SIGCHLD, thanks.
[19:04] <smerdyakow> \\\ hellow fellows. suspend is not working on my dell precision m6400 on ubuntu 15.10. I googled, nothing, what to do?
[19:07] <micahf> hey there, I'm having trouble using the fglrx driver on ubuntu.  my graphics card (R9 290) is plugged in via expresscard port to my laptop, which also has an intel integrated chipset (HD 3000, Sandy Bridge).  upon first installing the fglrx drivers, I'm able to use the card with the intel graphics disabled.  However, if I unplug the card and reboot, ubuntu switches over to muxless mode, which works great for programs like glxgears, but
[19:07] <micahf> for the software I need, (Fragmentarium), GL_RENDERER is set at startup to the the integrated intel chipset.  How can I fix this?  xrandr --listproviders shows both integrated and discrete chipsets as providers.  I've tried setting DISPLAY=:1, but that doesn't seem to change the GL_RENDERER used by Fragmentarium
[19:07] <micahf> I should clarify, this is after I plug the card back in and reboot
[19:10] <daftykins> micahf: so to be clear, you want your laptop to work automatically depending on whether the card is in or not?
[19:12] <micahf> daftykins, yeah, and right now when an application requests and open gl context at startup (chrome, fragmentarium, etc), it seems to be getting back one for the sandy bridge chipset
[19:12] <daftykins> i don't think you're going to find it friendly trying to get something like that going on Linux.
[19:13] <micahf> daftykins, maybe I have to disable the integrated graphics in the bios :(
[19:13] <micahf> daftykins, but somehow after installing fglrx while the card is plugged in, integrated graphics are disabled, so there must be a way to do that
[19:13] <daftykins> i highly doubt you will have any control to do that on a laptop.
[19:15] <micahf> daftykins: i mean, it works after I apt-get remove fglrx* and reinstall the driver
[19:15] <micahf> daftykins: it works until I reboot with the card unplugged
[19:15] <perks> hey is there anyway to poll and parse CPU utilization of multiple cores without downloading additional packages?
[19:15] <micahf> daftykins: so at the very least I'd think there would be a way to do configuration that the installer does without completely removing and reinstalling
[19:16] <micahf> daftykins: but i've tried dpkg-reconfigure and that doesn't do it
[19:17] <daftykins> micahf: no, i would guess that installing it whilst running is able to initialise the card then and there, but on reboot it breaks it due to boot approaches being different. which fglrx and ubuntu version is this?
[19:17] <daftykins> maybe there's newer?
[19:17] <nuboro> how can i become ubuntu touch on my mobile
[19:17] <thepeter> hdon_: I am back, so where am I mistaken please?
[19:17] <daftykins> !touch | nuboro
[19:17] <EriC^^> nuboro: i dont think you can fit inside it
[19:18] <daftykins> EriC^^: :D
[19:18] <nuboro> ?? EriC^^
[19:18] <micahf> daftykins: 15.04 and the crimson drivers installed from amd, although I also tried with fglrx-updates from the ubuntu repos
[19:18] <micahf> same effect
[19:18] <hdon_> thepeter: sorry i was afk
[19:18] <daftykins> micahf: ah ok, mmm sorry beyond me, i'd look for someone good with graphics at a lower level
[19:18] <thepeter> hdon_: np mee too just came back
[19:18] <hdon_> thepeter: and you said you had put it in two different locations or run it from two different scripts or something and in one it works and in the other it doesn't?
[19:19] <EriC^^> nuboro: i was j/k :)
[19:19] <EriC^^> nuboro: follow the link above and /join #ubuntu-touch
[19:20] <nuboro> ok but can you have any
[19:20] <thepeter> hdon_: the script is in the first part and it does what it is supposed to do and the second is.desktop file which is in .config/autostart to execute it at login
[19:21] <EriC^^> thepeter: i dont think you put .desktop files in .config/autostart
[19:21] <micahf> daftykins: it's okay, thanks for your feedback
[19:21] <develooper> EriC^^: Hi again
[19:21] <EriC^^> thepeter: ah i think you do
[19:21] <EriC^^> develooper: hi
[19:21] <develooper> EriC^^:  I just thought about 7 to 9 keys mapping
[19:21] <develooper> EriC^^: can we map map another key
[19:22] <EriC^^> thepeter: pastebin the .desktop file
[19:22] <develooper> EriC^^: so I can map 7 to 7
[19:22] <thepeter> EriC^^:  http://pastebin.com/T4bZmKiJ
[19:22] <EriC^^> develooper: yeah
[19:22] <EriC^^> develooper: you can map another button to 7, or if you want the actual 7 key to work, you'd lose the 9 though
[19:23] <develooper> EriC^^: so my pc recognizes two 9 buttons
[19:23] <develooper> so if I map real 7 button to 7 button
[19:24] <develooper> then real 9 button will write 7
[19:24] <EriC^^> thepeter: i dont think that would work from there, it would reset as it logged in more
[19:24] <EriC^^> thepeter: add it to ~/.profile
[19:24] <develooper> very absurd situation :)
[19:24] <EriC^^> develooper: yeah :)
[19:24] <thepeter> EriC^^: the .desktop file or the scrip itself?
[19:25] <thepeter> script ^^
[19:25] <EriC^^> thepeter: add /path/to/script
[19:26] <EriC^^> it will still run when you log into a tty though, you can try adding if [ ! -z $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ]; then /path/to/script; fi
[19:26] <EriC^^> so it only runs if a desktop environment is present, but experiment with that later
[19:27] <thepeter> EriC^^: okay will try that tomor when I am in office (even thou I am not quite sure what you mean, could you pastebin it for me please?)
[19:27] <EriC^^> sure
[19:29] <EriC^^> thepeter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13832596/
[19:29] <Techspectre> How can I monitor CPU and memory usage of a web hosting server via a shell on my machine?
[19:29] <daftykins> Techspectre: top
[19:30] <daftykins> managing your worker count with apache is a #1 to reducing resource usage
[19:30] <Techspectre> daftykins, I'm looking at top. What do I need? I have FTP login info, but...
[19:32] <daftykins> Techspectre: what on earth are you doing with FTP login details? you have to SSH in to a Linux web server to use 'top'
[19:32] <Sewerrat> Hello, what laptop would you reccomend for schoolwork/university? I want it to work directly when i install ubuntu, no extra drivers etc. price: 600 euro
[19:32] <Techspectre> daftykins, lol sorry man I'm not a systems admin by trade so I don't know how to do that. I do have a linux server and I know the username and password. How can I log into it via top?
[19:33] <Ben64> Techspectre: top is an application, you don't log into anything with it
[19:33] <daftykins> Techspectre: what's the OS you want to connect from?
[19:33] <Techspectre> How do I run top from the server
[19:33] <Techspectre> Ubuntu
[19:34] <daftykins> open the terminal then, and run "ssh -l username hostname" where hostname = mywebserver.com or an IP address if it's on the LAN.
[19:34] <daftykins> Sewerrat: #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux for picking a system
[19:37] <pbx> when i switch my primary mouse button, my login manager doesn't pick it up.  not a huge problem but is there a workaround?
[19:39] <thepeter> EriC^^: thx
[19:39] <EriC^^> pbx: hmm, try gsettings list-recursively | grep mouse
[19:39] <EriC^^> if you can figure out which one controls the primary mouse button, you can change that for the lightdm user
[19:40] <teward> How can I reduce the likelihood of things being put into swap instead of RAM?
[19:40] <EriC^^> thepeter: np
[19:41] <pbx> EriC^^, yeah, it's `org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.mouse left-handed` - but how do i set that for a particular user? su ?
[19:41] <EriC^^> pbx: sudo -i
[19:41] <Techspectre> Got it!
[19:41] <Techspectre> Thanks guys
[19:41] <EriC^^> then type su lightdm -s /bin/bash
[19:41] <EriC^^> pbx: open another terminal and type xhost +local:
[19:42] <pbx> EriC^^, "non-network local connections being added to access control list"
[19:42] <EriC^^> pbx: sorry, i'm thinking to open dconf-editor, yeah just su lightdm and do it
[19:42] <EriC^^> well ok, since you're already there, type dconf-editor as lightdm and set it
[19:43] <win32> EriC^^,  why in (About This Computer) say > Graphic : >> Intel® Haswell Mobile
[19:44] <EriC^^> that's the graphics card i guess
[19:44] <honey12> i have installed eclipse in ubuntu 15.04 but i cant get  any plugin even in perspective my eclipse verstion is 3.8.1
[19:45] <honey12> any help?
[19:45] <win32> EriC^^,  normal graphic i have > product: GK208M [GeForce GT 740M]
[19:45] <EriC^^> win32: try lspci | grep VGA
[19:46] <win32> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[19:46] <win32> not use GT 740M.. i think it's shared graphic.
[19:47] <EriC^^> win32: yeah
[19:48] <win32> EriC^^, i think when need more memory use > Orginal graphic GetForce GT 740M / 2GB
[19:50] <honey12> is there any one who can help haddop -eclipse plugin is not showing up in eclipse?
[19:50] <EriC^^> win32: yeah a hybrid setup
[19:50] <win32> EriC^^ Thanks You Expert
[19:51] <decci> I am getting this error while running omreport on one of Dell server http://pastebin.com/uaPJVRH8
[19:52] <decci> omreport chassis Error! Hardware or Feature Not Present.
[19:52] <decci> How to get this fixed
[19:53] <decci> omreport system summary works fine
[19:53] <MyStuff> hi, I have a problem to pressure configuration of my wacom intuos. He doesn't to keep my config and I don't know why...
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> honey12: mabey the #eclipse channel can help you out?
[19:59] <Lokie> try #4. lubuntu, Xfce configured, screen will not sleep just stay lit but black / blank
[20:00] <EriC^^> Lokie: what are you trying to do?
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> Lokie  those loose words are not very clear
[20:00] <Lokie> when notebook is inactive I want the screen to turn of after X minutes
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> Lokie  system settings, screensaver
[20:01] <Lokie> even though I 've configured xfce  power manager
[20:01] <Lokie> It's set for xfce to control screensaver
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> MyStuff: can this help mate? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_linuxwacom_driver
[20:01] <ioria> Lokie, you mean 'suspend ' is not working ?
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> evening ioria and MonkeyDust
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> Lokie
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  *
[20:02] <EriC^^> Lokie: try xset s <seconds>
[20:02] <ioria> lotuspsychje, Hi Lotus ^_^
[20:02] <Lokie> ioria suspend works fine on the configured time
[20:02] <KSFT> I have a Windows executable file that I want to open with mono when I double click it in the file manager, but it's opening with wine by default.
[20:02] <Lokie> screen turning off doesn't
[20:03] <KSFT> I don't see mono in the list of other programs to open it with.
[20:03] <KSFT> How do I have it open with mono by default?
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> KSFT: did you try rightmouse/properties?
[20:03] <KSFT> lotuspsychje: yeah
[20:03] <KSFT> mono isn't in the list of other programs
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> KSFT: how dis you install mono?
[20:04] <KSFT> lotuspsychje: sudo apt-get install mono-runtime
[20:04] <KSFT> and mono-complete
[20:04] <EriC^^> KSFT: in properties?
[20:04] <KSFT> EriC^^: I tried that, but mono isn't in the list of other programs to open it with
[20:04] <Lokie> mm if I start screensaver it throws: gnome screensaver daemon is running. it must be stopped for xscreensaver to work properly
[20:04] <MyStuff> lotuspsychje: It's not a problem to detection, my wacom works well. Just do not keep my pressure sensibility config :/
[20:05] <EriC^^> KSFT: ok, it has to have a .desktop file to be in that list
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> Lokie: uninstall gnome screensaver first
[20:05] <Lokie> so maybe I got multiple stuff trying to control screensaver / screen sleep?
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> Lokie: then launch xscreensaver --nosplash at boot
[20:05] <Rene___> Hey there, i tried to install ubuntu today while deleting windows10 from that hard disk, but all i get now is "select proper boot device", which i already did. I am able to run the live-demo and already tried to fix the error with boot-repair it tells me im just fine. Can anyone help?
[20:05] <KSFT> EriC^^: should I create a .desktop file somewhere?
[20:05] <Lokie> lotuspsychje how exactly?
[20:06] <EriC^^> KSFT: which executable do you use to launch mono usually?
[20:06] <KSFT> I don't know
[20:06] <EriC^^> how do you launch it usually
[20:06] <KSFT> I just type "mono <file>.exe"
[20:06] <KSFT> in a terminal
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> Lokie: purge gnome screensaver
[20:06] <daftykins> Rene___: is your system EFI capable?
[20:07] <EriC^^> KSFT: try dpkg -L mono-complete | grep desktop
[20:07] <Lokie> lotuspsychje yea I did that. Not sure about the launch xscreensaver at boot
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> Lokie: startup items
[20:07] <KSFT> EriC^^: nothing
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> Lokie: then choose xscreensaver --nosplash as command
[20:09] <EriC^^> KSFT: ok, try to make a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications for mono
[20:09] <KSFT> EriC^^: what should it contain?
[20:09] <lnxmen> I have NVIDIA Optimus and last time power consumption increased for a 250%. How would I reverse changes or somehow make it work?
[20:10] <KSFT> EriC^^: it should be called "mono.desktop", right?
[20:10] <EriC^^> KSFT: yeah, you can copy another .desktop file to use as a template
[20:10] <daftykins> !efi | Rene___ have a look here and see if you get the white text on black background (EFI) boot when you boot from your DVD/USB flash drive
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: did you install nvidia-prime?
[20:10] <EriC^^> sudo cp /usr/share/applications/<some file> /usr/share/applications/mono.desktop
[20:10] <lnxmen> lotuspsychje: yes, I am currentyl using it.
[20:10] <Lokie> lotuspsychje for startup items I need to install lxsession-edit ?
[20:10] <EriC^^> KSFT: i'm trying to think of a CLI program that might have a desktop file to use the same options
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: did you set to power saving mode in nvidia-settings?
[20:11] <KSFT> EriC^^: wine?
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> Lokie: your in lubuntu?
[20:11] <Lokie> yea
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> Lokie: ask the #lubuntu guys, long time no use myself sorry :p
[20:11] <lnxmen> lotuspsychje: Of course. It's set for Intel (Power Saving Mode).
[20:11] <Lokie> ok thx :)
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: wich driver version in use mate?
[20:12] <lnxmen> For Intel: i915, NVIDIA: proprietary nvidia-358
[20:12] <Rene___> daftykins: well, i was wrong, i had the black screen, therefore it should be uefi
[20:12] <EriC^^> KSFT: no, htop though
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: and ubuntu version?
[20:12] <lnxmen> lsmod shows i915
[20:12] <lnxmen> 15.10
[20:13] <EriC^^> KSFT: do you have htop installed?
[20:13] <daftykins> Rene___: ok, if you enter your EFI you likely need to change the boot choice from 'Windows Boot Manager' to 'Ubuntu' (or the hard disk/SSD name)
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: have you done anything special to get to 250%?
[20:13] <KSFT> EriC^^: now I do
[20:13] <EriC^^> lol
[20:13] <EriC^^> :D
[20:13] <KSFT> oh, that looks useful
[20:13] <EriC^^> KSFT: cp the htop.desktop file as mono.desktop
[20:13] <lnxmen> Nothing. If I had done something, I would reverse it. Last time I have been just upgrading Ubuntu several times.
[20:13] <Gimmesum> <--new to ubuntu. If i'm installing ubuntu v10 on a non-pae P4 laptop, do the updates stop before the version that requires PAE?
[20:14] <lnxmen> No idea which update has increase power consumption.
[20:14] <Gimmesum> apologize, im installing ubuntu v10 which apparently doesn't require pae
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: can you try different driver version perhaps maybe 340 or 346 and test the differences?
[20:14] <daftykins> Gimmesum: all 10.xx versions are EOL, so i would not do that - apparently Lubuntu will still install on older machines.
[20:14] <KSFT> EriC^^: then I just edit the obvious things?
[20:15] <EriC^^> KSFT: yeah
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: maybe check syslog and dmesg aswell
[20:15] <lnxmen> lotuspsychje: What NVIDIA drivers has to power consumption if I am currently using i915? Of course I can, just asking to know.
[20:15] <lnxmen> I checked them. No errors.
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> Gimmesum  you can install and even use 10.04 or 10.10, but not upgrade it in any way or find repos for it
[20:15] <daftykins> dangerous to not warn the use of EOL :(
[20:16] <EriC^^> KSFT: i think you want the command to be mono %U
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: i guess optimus cards, driver versions influence both have you tried LTS also?
[20:16] <lnxmen> I tried LTS version of kernel.
[20:16] <KSFT> EriC^^: after "Exec=", right?
[20:16] <Gimmesum> monkeydust & daftykins: thank you
[20:16] <Rene___> daftykins: i cant get into the windows manager anymore, it is deleted already. All i can do is change priority in bios. That is set to the hard disk he cant read, so i get the "select proper boot device message".
[20:17] <daftykins> Rene___: it's the EFI i refer to, nothing on disk - the BIOS indeed :)
[20:17] <EriC^^> KSFT: yeah
[20:17] <KSFT> EriC^^: it worked
[20:17] <KSFT> weird...
[20:17] <ioria> Gimmesum, are you sure it's a P 4 ?
[20:17] <daftykins> Rene___: are you typing from this live session right now?
[20:18] <KSFT> seems to have reset some of the data the program stored
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: maybe htop can enlight also whats going high load
[20:18] <KSFT> oh well
[20:18] <KSFT> nothing important
[20:18] <lnxmen> lotuspsychje: I installed nvidia-355. I am sure that this driver works very well (12W power consumption). So, need to reboot.
[20:18] <lnxmen> lotuspsychje: I check all this possible simple things.
[20:18] <lnxmen> I checked *
[20:18] <daftykins> Rene___: i'll brb
[20:19] <EriC^^> Rene___: hi
[20:22] <lnxmen> Okay, I think changing nvidia drivers to 355 solved a problem.
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> !yay | lnxmen
[20:22] <lnxmen> 14.5W of power consumption
[20:22] <Rene___> daftykins: no im not, sitting at another computer right next to the problem
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: maybe you could file a bug against 358.16?
[20:23] <EriC^^> Rene___: type sudo parted -l | nc cwillu.com 10101
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: could be usefull for other users
[20:23] <lnxmen> I would. What should I do?
[20:23] <EriC^^> Rene___: it'll give you a link, paste it here
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> !bug | lnxmen
[20:23] <EriC^^> KSFT: that's odd, i doubt it has to do with the desktop file though
[20:23] <BigFire> hello, i would like to ask how to downgrade gcc from 4.8.4 to 4.8.2?
[20:23] <lnxmen> Okay, I will send them bug report. Thanks for help, mate.
[20:24] <Rene___> eric^^: where do i type this
[20:24] <EriC^^> Rene___: in a terminal, press ctrl+alt+t
[20:24] <Rene___> eric^^ daftykins: what i can already give you is this
[20:24] <Rene___> eric^^ daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13832446/
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> lnxmen: thank you for feedback, usefull for us aswell
[20:24] <goddard> Got another interesting question here... I have fixed most my others issues, but still have one little issue.  For some reason when I wake my system up from suspend one of my USB ports is inactive.  If I reboot it works.
[20:24] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok ty
[20:24] <goddard> I think it is a USB 2 port that has the ability to go into legacy mode, at least that is what it says in my BIOS.
[20:24] <EriC^^> Rene___: can you run the new command though?
[20:25] <Rene___> eric^^ daftykins: sure but im not in the demo atm
[20:25] <Rene___> eric^^ daftykins: could take some time
[20:25] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, 1 sec, btw daftykins has gone he'll be back shortly
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> goddard: can you feedback how you fixxed the xbox controller
[20:26] <BigFire> Does anyone know how to downgrade gcc from 4.8.4 to 4.8.2, which is needed by CUDA?
[20:26] <goddard> lotuspsychje: i removed xpad
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: downgrade isnt reccomended, its usefull to use package version for your ubuntu version
[20:27] <goddard> lotuspsychje: it was the problem really..
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> goddard: the sticky note app?
[20:27] <EriC^^> Rene___: i think i see the problem already
[20:27] <BigFire> then what would you suggest me to do? My ubuntu version is fine.
[20:27] <goddard> lotuspsychje: nah the kernel module xpad.c
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> goddard: ok tnx
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[20:28] <goddard> lotuspsychje: a real fix would require refactoring the xpad code
[20:28] <EriC^^> Rene___: can you boot a live demo? you need to fix the efibootmgr so that ubuntu is first in the order
[20:28] <Gimmesum> ioria: Pentium M sorry
[20:28] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 14.04
[20:28] <EriC^^> Rene___: also try to disable secureboot
[20:29] <ioria> Gimmesum, so 10 is good :))))
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> !info gcc trusty | BigFire is your version
[20:29] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: kernel = 3.13.0-57-generic
[20:29] <ioria> Gimmesum, the you have to do some complicated upgrade
[20:29] <Rene___> eric^^: its starting at the moment
[20:30] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04) 4.8.4
[20:30] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: i think i have accidentally updated the gcc to 4.8.4
[20:31] <Xeno> umm.... Can someone please explain how to claim a task in Google Code-In
[20:31] <Xeno> I claimed one yesterday and I cant find it anymore
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: did you add ppa or download a deb?
[20:32] <Xeno> ???
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> Xeno: how is this related to ubuntu?
[20:32] <Rene___> eric^^: its ready now, what should i do?
[20:32] <Xeno> Yes
[20:32] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: neither, i think it was via update&&upgrade
[20:32] <EriC^^> Rene___: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[20:33] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: in trusty-updates gcc 's version is 4.8.4
[20:33] <Xeno> Umm.... I was gonna do a task for Ubuntu but Google Code in system is horrible...
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: im on 4.8.2 and kernel 3.13.0-71-generic here
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: have you updated system to 14.04.3?
[20:35] <Rene___> eric^^: did that, got no response, just a new line
[20:35] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, that means it's worked
[20:36] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: how do i check whether it is 14.04.3? i can find it nowhere
[20:36] <Rene___> eric^^: just restart and try or anything else?
[20:36] <EriC^^> Rene___: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: uname -a
[20:36] <EriC^^> Rene___: no, not yet
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:36] <EriC^^> Rene___: do you have internet access on the live demo?
[20:36] <BigFire> lotuspsychje:Linux SilverFairy 3.13.0-57-generic #95-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 19 09:28:15 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:37] <EriC^^> BigFire: type apt-cache policy gcc
[20:37] <EriC^^> it should say where gcc came from
[20:37] <BigFire>  lotuspsychje: Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: linux silverfairy?
[20:38] <linoob> super noob, here.  does anyone know how I'd go about installing  the development package that contains xcb/xcb_icccm.h
[20:38] <linoob> and xkbcommon/xkbcommon.h
[20:38] <EriC^^> that's the hostname lotuspsychje
[20:38] <ash_work> what's the gear called in the upper right hand corner?
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: oh right
[20:39] <BigFire> EriC^^: gcc:
[20:39] <BigFire>   Installed: 4:4.8.2-1ubuntu6  Candidate: 4:4.8.2-1ubuntu6  Version table: *** 4:4.8.2-1ubuntu6 0
[20:39] <EriC^^> BigFire: ok, so you have 4.8.2
[20:39] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: Silverfairy can be ignored.. computer name
[20:39] <hdon_> hi all :) i'm booting ubuntu server 64-bit installer. the menu is annoying and i don't think it's going to do what i want to do, so i go to another VT. well, there's no parted!
[20:40] <EriC^^> BigFire: ah i see the mix-up, i have the same package installed (4.8.2) but gcc --version shows 4.8.4
[20:40] <BigFire> EriC^^: but when i type gcc --version, i got 4.8.4
[20:40] <daftykins> hdon_: install it? :)
[20:40] <hdon_> daftykins: oh... duh :)
[20:40] <Rene___> eric^^ did the install command, yes i have internet
[20:40] <hdon_> daftykins: but really, it should be on the installer
[20:41] <hdon_> and.. what are parted_devices and parted_server?
[20:41] <daftykins> hdon_: i'm kinda surprised that it's not, standard server 64-bit ISO huh? which version?
[20:41] <hdon_> hmm... maybe parted_server is some kind of headless parted for the installer to talk to
[20:41] <hdon_> daftykins: 14.04.3
[20:41] <BigFire> EriC^^: so your situation is the same as mine?
[20:41] <daftykins> LTS, that's what i like to see!
[20:41] <hdon_> daftykins: can't install it, not apt-get :3
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> hdon_  the .iso cannot be modified, because one single user wants it
[20:41] <hdon_> this isn't like the liveboot
[20:41] <carl_> I'm having some problems with netbeans and I want to erase all files and traces of netbeans on my computer before I try to reinstall it. How do i do that the easiest way?
[20:42] <hdon_> MonkeyDust: every user should want parted
[20:42] <EriC^^> BigFire: yeah
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> hdon_  no, server isnt live, it's an installer
[20:42] <daftykins> carl_: depends how you installed it.
[20:42] <hdon_> MonkeyDust: and an installer should have common partitioning tools.
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> hdon_  try to convince the dev's
[20:42] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, type ls -lR /mnt | pastebinit
[20:42] <BigFire> EriC^^: excellent :D
[20:43] <EriC^^> Rene___: also type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr , then type sudo efibootmgr -v | pastebinit
[20:43] <carl_> first I installed the latest version by downloading it from their website and I installed from their sh file
[20:43] <hdon_> actually, maybe i have net installer
[20:43] <daftykins> hdon_: i might have to give this one a check myself, definitely bug worthy
[20:43] <hdon_> the image was only 230 MB -- sounds like net installer to me
[20:43] <hdon_> but still... to have no parted...
[20:43] <daftykins> hdon_: yeah if you grabbed a mini.iso...
[20:43] <carl_> then when that didnt work I tried installing it by the usual sudo apt-get install netbeans
[20:43] <carl_> so I think I have a mix of both versions
[20:43] <hdon_> well, thanks for the help guys :)
[20:43] <hdon_> i will try to use the installer to do my partitioning
[20:43] <daftykins> hdon_: there's no net installer anymore, mini.iso is like 38MB then there's full server which is at least 400MB i would've thought, can you check the filename?
[20:44] <hdon_> daftykins: oh, huh... let me double check which i got then
[20:44] <hdon_> ubuntu-14.04.3-server-amd64.iso
[20:44] <hdon_> looks575MB
[20:44] <daftykins> ah yeah that's full, weird.
[20:44] <carl_> I ran remove from the terminal though but I think I still got some old files left
[20:45] <carl_> can I run a search for all folders mentioning netbeans and erase them?
[20:45] <carl_> or is that a bad idea?
[20:45] <daftykins> carl_: i'd check your $PATH and see if all netbeans related entries in there are killed
[20:45] <carl_> daftykins: what do I type to do that?
[20:45] <daftykins> carl_: sure, but obviously apply sense before killing them all :D something like "find / -name "*netbean*"
[20:46] <daftykins> well, echo $PATH ; to check your path for any netbeans related directories
[20:46] <hdon_> so in the "Parittion Disks" step, i am warned, "Before RAID can be configured, the changes have to be written to the storage devices." but i didn't get an opportunity to partition both disks, only one. maybe i can't choose "guided - use full disk" option if i want to partition both
[20:46] <carl_> daftykins: I just did that and I find no traces of netbeans
[20:46] <hdon_> second thing that bothers me is this: "The following partitions are going to be formatted" -- does this mean it will create the filesystems? i don't need that yet, i need my raid ready first
[20:46] <Rene2_> eric^^: i joined with the demo and did those commands, had to enter y at some point
[20:47] <carl_> I will type the find command and see if I can find anything else
[20:47] <Rene2_> eric^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13834564/
[20:47] <daftykins> hdon_: nah i think you'd want manual for that
[20:47] <Rene2_> eric^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13834613/
[20:47] <Rene2_> eric^^: those are the 2 links
[20:47] <carl_> so it should be find - name "*netbean*"?
[20:47] <hdon_> daftykins: i don't see anything specifically called "manual" -- what option am i looking for?
[20:47] <carl_> and if I find nothing it should be totally erased?
[20:48] <BigFire> ... anyone knows how to downgrade gcc from 4.8.4 to 4.8.2 for CUDA installation?
[20:48] <hdon_> i guess i could boot into another system and partition them from there
[20:48] <EriC^^> daftykins: what do you think the UEFI: ST... entry is? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13834613/
[20:49] <mekoo> Hi, I am trying to connect through ssh into a VirtualBox (running ubuntu on guest and host). I have create a "host-only adapter" on my host and configured my guest http://dpaste.com/066FTC5
[20:49] <hdon_> also, i noticed that my BIOS gets my disk sizes wrong... is this gonna cause me trouble? linux detects the correct disk sizes
[20:49] <mekoo> But when I ping my guest, it says destination unreacheble
[20:49] <daftykins> EriC^^: that's a 1TB seagate laptop HDD model name :)
[20:49] <carl_> should I go for the netbeans version in the terminal or the one I can download from their website?
[20:49] <carl_> since it has given me so much problems
[20:50] <EriC^^> daftykins: is it ok if we put it later in the boot order?
[20:50] <daftykins> EriC^^: i think the PT is still infected by Windows, i'd probably suggest just a quick 1MB dd zero fill and clean install -> all happy? or that, yeah :>
[20:50] <EriC^^> Rene2_: did you try to disable secureboot? sometimes you have to trust the efi file so the computer boots it
[20:51] <hdon_> daftykins: oh i found manual... it was the first screen i was presented iwth, i guess
[20:51] <Rene2_> eric^^: havent done that yet
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: you cant downgrade trusty's gcc version to a lower one
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: what is it you trying to do with cuda anyway?
[20:52] <EriC^^> Rene2_: try sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "Ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[20:53] <BigFire> lotuspsychjs: the cuda 7.5 only supports gcc4.82 in ubuntu 14.04
[20:53] <EriC^^> Rene2_: then type sudo efibootmgr -v | pastebinit
[20:53] <Rene2_> eric^^: one command the one above?
[20:53] <EriC^^> Rene2_: yes
[20:53] <EriC^^> that will add the ubuntu efi file to the bootmgr
[20:53] <BigFire> lotuspsychjs: im afraid that 4.8.4 will cause problems with CUDA
[20:54] <BigFire> lotuspsychjs: check out this link.  http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-getting-started-guide-for-linux/#axzz3tlD3hekG
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: trusty package version is 4.8.2 but as EriC^^ mentioned --version shows 4.8.4
[20:55] <Rene2_> eric^^: daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13834859/
[20:55] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: indeed, which means there is only gcc4.8.4 in my ubuntu
[20:55] <hdon_> ok i'm done with this installer's partitioner. i hate it. i'm rebooting into a system with parted!
[20:55] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: or it is possible that gcc 4.8.2 is hiding somewhere...
[20:56] <EriC^^> Rene2_: did you type sudo efibootmgr -c ....
[20:57] <Fernando-Basso> Where does steam install games in the recent vrsions of ubuntu?
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> !steam | Fernando-Basso
[20:57] <Rene2_> eric^^: daftykins: did that and got BootCurrent: 0003 Timeout: 1 seconds BootOrder: 0004,0002,0003,0001,0000 Boot0000  ubuntu Boot0001  Windows Boot Manager Boot0002* UEFI: ST1000DM003-1CH162 Boot0003* UEFI: ATAPI   DVD A  DH16ACSH Boot0004* Ubuntu
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: apt-cache policy gcc
[20:59] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: there it says 4:4.8.2
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: =the right version
[21:00] <carl_> I guess I need a replacement for netbeans, which is the best c++ ide for ubuntu?
[21:00] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: im a bit confused. then why gcc --version shows 4.8.4?
[21:00] <EriC^^> Rene2_: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -o 0004,0000,0001,0002,0003
[21:01] <EriC^^> Rene2_: then restart the pc, go into the bios and make sure uefi is enabled and try to disable secureboot
[21:02] <Rene2_> eric^^ i know how to disable secure boot but how do i make sure that uefi is enabled?
[21:03] <EriC^^> Rene2_: make sure legacy is disabled, or csm legacy
[21:04] <Rene2_> eric^^: doesnt sound a lot easier tbh^^ only thing i know about it is what daftykins sent me
[21:05] <BigFire> lotuspsychje: i check all files related to gcc in /usr/bin, none of them has a version of 4.8.2
[21:05] <EriC^^> Rene2_: uefi is enabled i think, in case you see legacy enabled, or csm legacy turn it off
[21:05] <EriC^^> just those words Legacy : enabled , or CSM legacy : enabled , something to that effect
[21:05] <EriC^^> i think turning secureboot off should do it though
[21:06] <rodd> hi how can I install a locale with a 2 digit name ? ex.: fr insteaad of fr_FR ?
[21:07] <Rene___> eric^^: 1st boot device says uefi: st... if thats what youre looking for
[21:07] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok
[21:08] <Rene___> eric^^: boot menu is disabled, does that affect things in any way?
[21:08] <SlidingHorn> carl_: Nebeans itself is available for Ubuntu - sudo apt-get install netbeans  -  More information available here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans
[21:08] <EriC^^> Rene___: i dont think so, try to disable secureboot, if that doesn't work the bootmenu might be handy
[21:08] <Bali> hey guys, anybody here?
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> Bali: 1800 users are
[21:09] <k1l> Bali: some are. just ask the question :)
[21:09] <Bali> it will be a very lame question, but actually i can t find an answer
[21:09] <Rene___> eric^^: disabled and still says reboot and select proper boot device
[21:09] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, try to enable the boot menu
[21:09] <EriC^^> which laptop is this?
[21:10] <xchatter> hi
[21:10] <Rene___> eric^^ its not a laptop, pc
[21:10] <EriC^^> oh ok
[21:10] <xchatter> I am using Ubuntu 15.10 and the Zotac zbox 320ci nano.
[21:10] <daftykins> Bali: well, we'll help once we see it ;)
[21:11] <EriC^^> Rene___: home-built?
[21:11] <Bali> so i made usb stick to boot device with Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS> , and the ubuntu installer menu comes up, it doesnt matter if i select install or try ubuntu, my computer is just restarting and the boot menu comes up again
[21:11] <Bali> *installer boot menu
[21:11] <Rene___> eric^^ no acer predator, could look up which one exactly if necessary
[21:11] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, try to enable the boot menu
[21:12] <xchatter> I contacted the Zotac support because my system freezes since the last BIOS update. The support team wrote in an email to me: "Please check SSD firmware version. Some SSD programs will automatic update the firmware and cause stable problem." How do I do this?
[21:12] <Rene___> eric^^: did that already, nothing changed
[21:12] <foreverian12> hello! this is probably really easy if you know the terminology and what to search for, but i dont. how do i make a file on my desktop open terminal and run a specific command (just one line) and automatically enter the password needed? thanks. :)
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> Bali: wich ubuntu version?
[21:12] <Bali> ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64
[21:12] <xchatter> I mean how can I check the SSD firmware version of my SSD disk drive?
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: wich ssd brand?
[21:13] <xchatter> Samsung EVO 850 120GB
[21:13] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, Samsung EVO 850 120GB
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: evo 850 doesnt need firmware update
[21:13] <EriC^^> Rene___: try to press esc, and see if you get a boot menu, or try to disable fastboot if that's on
[21:13] <SlidingHorn> foreverian12: Try taking a look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/475081/how-to-create-a-launcher-to-execute-a-terminal-command
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> Bali: try a nomodeset perhaps?
[21:13] <foreverian12> SlidingHorn: ok, hold on. thanks.
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Bali
[21:14] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, I wan to find out the version. What is the command?
[21:14] <DoYouKnow> it's unfair how Windows has to be so much better with power management on my laptop - anyone have any advice?
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: you need to lookup the ssd code on your box (serial) then lookup on samsungs website
[21:15] <k1l> manchester bekommt ja sowohl von wolfsburg wie auch gladbach auf die mütze
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> DoYouKnow: laptop-mode-tools
[21:16] <bonden> hi. im quite a newbe, and haw an error.  E: Type 'echo' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list
[21:16] <bonden>  E: The list of sources could not be read.
[21:16] <bonden>  Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[21:16] <bonden>  E: _cache->open() failed, please report. some one who knows how to correct it?
[21:16] <SlidingHorn> k1l: wrong channel?  ;)
[21:16] <MonsieurBon> hi
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> !paste | bonden
[21:16] <Guest21408> Hola
[21:16] <k1l> SlidingHorn: erm, yeah :) sorry
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> !es | Guest21131___
[21:16] <MonsieurBon> does anyone know what user/password i need to enter to be able to access localhost/phpmyadmin/setup in ubuntu?
[21:16] <Rene___> eric^^ wasnt esc but f12 that got me into the boot menu. I can select the uefi but still gets me to the same point. Select proper boot device.
[21:16] <Guest21408> Quien habla espanol?
[21:17] <daftykins> !es
[21:17] <daftykins> oh my bad, posted already
[21:17] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, please read this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13835559/
[21:17] <Rene___> eric^^: fastboot is disabled
[21:17] <foreverian12> SlidingHorn: it worked perfectly! thanks! :) but how do i add the password part?
[21:17] <Guest21408> noalpornoin94.comlu.com
[21:17] <EriC^^> Rene___: do you have a uefi boot menu, that lists ubuntu windows etc. ?
[21:17] <Guest21408> noalpornoin94.comlu.com
[21:18] <Guest21408> noalpornoin94.comlu.com
[21:18] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: in wich context you getting this mail, whats your actual issue?
[21:18] <jason67666767> hello im usung ubuntu and i want to put kik on it how do i do it
[21:18] <lotuspsychje> jason67666767: kik?
[21:18] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, original email is below in that paste
[21:18] <Bali> so i have to set this nomodeset to permanent if i want to use ubuntu and windows sidebyside?
[21:19] <foreverian12> this is a question for all in here, i guess. how do i make a .desktop file not close the terminal window when its done with the commands?
[21:19] <bonden> paste.ubuntu.com/13835585/
[21:19] <jason67666767> its a messanger site usually on andriod and windows phone and windows
[21:19] <k1l> Bali: nomodeset is a setting that some video cards need. if you know you need it you can make ubuntu have that as standard on the install.
[21:19] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: tried ubuntu LTS?
[21:20] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: did you set IDE to AHCI in bios?
[21:20] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, no . I tried my different Linux versions.
[21:20] <daftykins> Bali: typically you use it to get installed, then once you install a proper graphics driver you don't need it anymore :)
[21:20] <Rene___> eric^^ its black screen with blue window saying please select a boot device - uefi: st1000...
[21:20] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: i reccomend trying LTS version, doublecheck bios also
[21:20] <Rene___> eric^^ cant choose between ubuntu windows
[21:20] <jason67666767> yea i have
[21:20] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, no I didn't. I was thinking about it because I tried everything else. But that actually does not make sense to me. Why IDE?
[21:20] <xchatter> Then on the other hand i am completely frustrated and willing to try anything.
[21:21] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: did you place ssd in yourself?
[21:21] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: bios need to be set on AHCI if you place ssd in
[21:21] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, yes and it worked well for one year until upgrade to 15.10 and BIOS upgrade which unfortunately happened about the same time.
[21:21] <BigFire_> Well, can anyone explain it why "apt-cache policy gcc-4.8" and "apt-cache policy gcc" give different outputs? Former 4.8.4, latter 4.8.2
[21:22] <DoYouKnow> lotuspsychje: do I need to do anything else besides install laptop-mode-tools?
[21:22] <EriC^^> Rene___: you might need to use legacy mode to install ubuntu, do you have a problem with that?
[21:22] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, ahh, Sorry. Yes it is AHCI
[21:22] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, I thought you meant the other way: to IDE
[21:22] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: try LTS on it
[21:22] <EriC^^> Rene___: the efi file is first in the uefi menu, even the windows file is listed there ( which is actually the ubuntu file ), but the bios won't boot them
[21:22] <goddard> Got another interesting question here... I have fixed most my others issues, but still have one little issue.  For some reason when I wake my system up from suspend one of my USB ports is inactive.  If I reboot it works.
[21:22] <goddard> I think it is a USB 2 port that has the ability to go into legacy mode, at least that is what it says in my BIOS.
[21:23] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, I will try this week. Why do you think it would make a difference.
[21:23] <xchatter> BTW, if I suddenly leave the channel it means my machine crashed/froze.
[21:23] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: you can lookup syslog and dmesg logs to see whats causing your freezes
[21:23] <k1l> goddard: see what module is needed for that usb support and if that is loaded properly after suspend
[21:24] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, I tried that with other guys in this channel last week without success.
[21:24] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: or do a realtime tail -f /var/log/syslog and wait until it freezes
[21:25] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: somethings causing it, just need to findout why
[21:25] <xchatter> thx
[21:25] <xchatter> I will try
[21:25] <Bali> so here how can i set nomodeset http://i.imgur.com/I9bzE.jpg?1 (installer boot menu)
[21:25] <Rene___> eric^^ is there a big difference when i use legacy? next question would be how to install it in legacy
[21:25] <lotuspsychje> Bali: F6 for options
[21:25] <daftykins> Bali: F6 menu lower right
[21:26] <Bali> i triied, it only do a refresh like thing
[21:26] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, I have to go to bed now.
[21:27] <EriC^^> Rene___: legacy is pretty much the same, except it'll boot a little slower ( nothing noticeable )
[21:27] <daftykins> Bali: when pressing F6, or when selecting 'nomodeset' ?
[21:27] <lotuspsychje> Bali: maybe you should also try 14.04.3 LTS to see if you can boot without nomodeset
[21:27] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, thx for your help. I will continue to tomorrow.
[21:27] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, CU
[21:27] <Bali> when i pressed F6
[21:27] <EriC^^> Rene___: you'd have to turn uefi to disabled, or enable csm legacy in the bios, and then boot the usb in legacy mode
[21:27] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: ill ask to come to tuck you in
[21:27] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, :P
[21:27] <EriC^^> Rene___: i mean boot the live demo
[21:28] <nullbyte_> lts forever!
[21:29] <Bali> i will try 14.04 ,but its not normal if i press f6 in the installer boot menu and it just kinda refreshing the menu?
[21:30] <BigFire_> Could someone please help me? ..
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> Bali: it should show you options below
[21:30] <k1l> Bali: possible you usb-creator did change things there
[21:30] <SentientTootsieR> Hey all. I'm trying to change the permissions on a folder so that users can ADD files to the directory, but only delete the files that THEY added and not other people's files. What command would I use for this?
[21:30] <Anthaas> created a vm
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> Bali: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:31] <Anthaas> just set up
[21:31] <k1l> Bali: you have a linux running somewhere?
[21:31] <Anthaas> cant even do mkdir in my home directory
[21:31] <Anthaas> whats gone wrong/what should I do?
[21:31] <Anthaas> need to sudo to mkdir
[21:31] <jct500thz> ... Why is Xubuntu  saving my session even though I don't want it to?
[21:31] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: how about you focus on your end goal, what are you trying to do with cuda?
[21:31] <Bali> k1l: no i dont
[21:31] <EriC^^> BigFire_: it's odd, i tried to compile something using gcc
[21:31] <jct500thz> Is there any way to permanently turn off the sessions?
[21:32] <EriC^^> then strings <binary> | grep GCC , showed both versions there
[21:32] <Rene___> eric^^ well i can try that, you dont think its possible in uefi?
[21:32] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: my goal is to use cuda to program some parallel programming
[21:32] <EriC^^> 4.8.4 and 4.8.2
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: so install cuda toolkit?
[21:32] <Bali> lotuspsychje: welcome page not coming up, when i restart the installer boot menu comin up, and if i press try or install, the computer restarting
[21:32] <BigFire_> EriC^^: thx for the help. Im really helpless in this problem....
[21:33] <EriC^^> Rene___: you could try to add another entry in the uefi menu
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> Bali: try an LTS version mate, from wich Os did you create your usb?
[21:33] <EriC^^> Rene___: boot the live demo a bit
[21:33] <Bali> lotuspsychje: win 8.1, Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> Bali: maybe something went wrong, did you md5?
[21:34] <Bali> no but i guessed it is may be corrupted
[21:34] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | Bali
[21:34] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: yes. Actually i have tried it once on the computer in the campus, after the installation, ubuntu did not boot any more. Then i founded out that the neither kernel version nor the gcc version fit.
[21:34] <Rene___> eric^^ will take like 5minutes again, ill tell you when its ready
[21:34] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok
[21:34] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: wich card chipset?
[21:35] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: sorry, what is card chipset?
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: sudo lshw -C video please
[21:36] <Anthaas> Ive just created a VM, installed Ubuntu, and need to sudo to even mkdir in ~, what should I do?
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: and did you try to install nvidia-cuda-toolkit?
[21:37] <bonden> Hello. need some help with an error. I can not use package manager or sofwaresenteret . and I have this error message. paste.ubuntu.com/13835585/
[21:38] <Bali> lotuspsychje: md5 check is okay
[21:38] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: I tried, ubuntu did not boot afterwards. So i removed all cuda and nvida packages
[21:39] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: the command line shows i have two VGA compatible controller, one NVIDIA, one Intel onboard card
[21:39] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: maybe bad combination with your driver version?
[21:39] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: right so your card is optimus?
[21:39] <foreverian12> hello! why does this close the terminal window when done? https://paste.debian.net/hidden/f20fc6ad/
[21:39] <daftykins> Anthaas: what is with you and permissions today? O_O
[21:40] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: my card is Duadro K620
[21:40] <daftykins> Anthaas: clearly that is not a default install... you don't need sudo for anything in /home/username .
[21:40] <Anthaas> daftykins, I know :| I just created a VM to do everything in here, and use bitbucket instead (better practice...)
[21:40] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: you need nvidia-prime for an optimus card
[21:40] <Anthaas> It is a default install :S
[21:40] <daftykins> from what ISO?
[21:40] <Anthaas> I literally just created it, from scratch, without changing anything...
[21:41] <Rene___> eric^^: thanks for the help already, im in the demo again
[21:41] <daftykins> #2: from what ISO?
[21:41] <Anthaas> ubuntu 14.04
[21:41] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: thx for the info. My own laptop has optimus card, but the one on the campus is a normal PC
[21:41] <Anthaas> from canonical site
[21:42] <Anthaas> hmm
[21:42] <Anthaas> fixed it
[21:43] <win32> =D
[21:43] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: have you installed CUDA toolkit successfully on Ubuntu 14.04 before?
[21:43] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: didnt use myself, but trusty's version shows 5.5.22
[21:44] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: i think you should first experiment with additional drivers section to get a proper boot for your card
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: after thats working install cuda
[21:44] <akik> Anthaas: fixed it, how?
[21:45] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: if that doesnt workout, try a 15.10 cuda version perhaps?
[21:45] <Rene2_> eric^^: ok, did that
[21:45] <Anthaas> for some reason, I couldn't create a folder until I used sudo, so I did, then did chown me:me
[21:46] <Anthaas> even though /home/me was owned by me
[21:46] <foreverian12> hello! why does this close the terminal window when done? https://paste.debian.net/hidden/f20fc6ad/
[21:46] <Anthaas> I couldnt create anything until I did that
[21:46] <Anthaas> :S
[21:46] <Anthaas> meh
[21:46] <Anthaas> Didnt do much fix it as it works now haha
[21:46] <Bali> offtopic - just want to hear your personal opinions about bsd if its okay to ask it here
[21:46] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: thanks a lot! I will try what you suggested.
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: can you please check your additional drivers section wich driver is active?
[21:47] <Pici> Bali: its not, thats why theres #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:47] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: when i installed CUDA, no nvida driver was installed
[21:47] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: the CUDA installation contains nvidia driver.
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: but did it show drivers in your list?
[21:47] <akik> Anthaas: you can recursively restore the ownership of /home/me "sudo chown -R me:me /home/me"
[21:47] <SlidingHorn> foreverian12: what is the exact command you're having this launcher run?
[21:48] <foreverian12> SlidingHorn: well that paste is what i try to run :p
[21:48] <Anthaas> akik No need, I already owned everything :S
[21:48] <Anthaas> Which is why it was odd
[21:48] <Anthaas> but yes, I can.
[21:48] <SlidingHorn> foreverian12: sorry, missed that...looking now
[21:49] <foreverian12> SlidingHorn: thanks
[21:49] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: i did not have the chance to check it, because ubuntu refused to boot after the installation..
[21:50] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: maybe i should try to install a proper driver, and then try the cuda toolkit
[21:50] <Rene___> eric^^: not sure if you saw me writing from the other account, i did the last command
[21:50] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: yeah i would try this
[21:50] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: maybe if you see 340 or 346 version
[21:51] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: too much mess when i tried to install both of them once
[21:51] <SlidingHorn> foreverian12: Two options - 1) Run this command as a cron job instead.  This would have it run as root on a regular basis, as defined by you/cron.  2) You *could* (but I wouldn't recommend it) make it so that those particular commands don't require a password by editing your sudoers file.  Again, this is not recommended.
[21:51] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, type sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[21:51] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: there also official nvidia here: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/77525/en-us
[21:51] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, type sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[21:52] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: i have 352.62 from nvidia-352
[21:52] <foreverian12> SlidingHorn: well if i forget about the password part and only focus on not having the terminal windows close? do you know how?
[21:52] <EriC^^> Rene___: both commands, also can you type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr ?
[21:52] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: ok try 340 or 346, reboot and try cuda toolkit install
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | BigFire when things go bad :p
[21:53] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje:indeed, if still not working i iwill try to download official driver from your link
[21:53] <SentientTootsieR> Hey all. I'm trying to change the permissions on a folder so that users can ADD files to the directory, but only delete the files that THEY added and not other people's files. What command would I use for this?
[21:54] <Rene2_> eric^^: i made a mistake.. accidently typed this: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[21:54] <BigFire_> ubottu: thanks mate. I booted into recovery mode and removed the failing packages :D
[21:54] <daftykins> SentientTootsieR: what's the use-case for this task?
[21:54] <Rene2_> eric^^ well, i see now thats no mistake
[21:54] <BigFire_> ubottu: really?
[21:54] <EriC^^> Rene2_: yeah :)
[21:54] <Rene2_> eric^^ just wrong order, any difference
[21:54] <EriC^^> Rene2_: nope
[21:54] <SentientTootsieR> i'm setting up a public folder for sharing over the network
[21:55] <wkts> ubottu, are you a bot?
[21:55] <wkts> ubottu, i think you're lying
[21:55] <wkts> ubottu, do you say anything else?
[21:55] <wkts> nope. =<
[21:55] <lotuspsychje> please not botabuse
[21:55] <Myrtti> wkts: can you knock it off?
[21:55] <wkts> i'm done =P
[21:55] <daftykins> you better be
[21:55] <wkts> i just wanted to see if the bot did anything
[21:55] <wkts> lol
[21:55] <JCT500THz> I tried to delete the session data in my user thing... /home/jct500thz/.cache/sessions ... But now it's not logging me in! says "failsafe session marked as failsafe is not actually failsafe" or something.
[21:55] <BigFire_> i did not know it is a bot...
[21:56] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu brain wkts
[21:56] <wkts> it's name as "bot" in the middle BigFire_
[21:56] <bazhang> do it in PM wkts
[21:56] <wkts> cool thanks bazhang
[21:56] <EriC^^> buy it dinner first
[21:56] <daftykins> ^
[21:56] <JCT500THz> I can't log in to Xubuntu now.
[21:57] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: another option could be a liveusb 15.10 test
[21:57] <JCT500THz> I'm forced to log in as a guest session.
[21:57] <Rene2_> eric^^: did all three
[21:57] <wkts> It is only a bot, please don't think it can eat food :)
[21:57] <PinkPanther>  i installed openbox and then started with openbox autostart xfce-desktop. now the xfce themes doesnt work so I can't change the grey window color. anybody knows the solution?
[21:57] <daftykins> JCT500THz: press ctrl+alt+F1, log in there, try "mv .cache .cacheold" then reboot and try again
[21:57] <SlidingHorn> foreverian12: Are you just trying to preserve the output?  If so, my recommendation would be to go the cron route & have it send the output to a log file:  add the following to /etc/cron.d/anacron       30 0 * * * root /usr/bin/apt-get update && /usr/bin/apt-get upgrade -q -y >> /var/log/apt/myupdates.log         That would run every day @ 12:30 am
[21:57] <k1l> JCT500THz: loginto tty1 and make sure .Xauthority is not owned by root
[21:58] <JCT500THz> ...
[21:58] <wkts> anyway back to interview stuff
[21:58] <wkts> \0
[21:58] <EriC^^> Rene2_: try sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Boot\\bootx64.efi -L "Windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[21:58] <foreverian12> SlidingHorn: yeah that is what i want to do. thanks. :)
[21:58] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: that is an good idea. But when i restart everything is gone on the live test, right?
[21:59] <SlidingHorn> foreverian12: the 1st two numbers are the time...minutes first, then hours (in 24h format - meaning 21 = 9:00 pm)
[21:59] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: indeed, it would be just a test if your system loads up right driver and working good
[21:59] <JCT500THz> How do I make sure Xauthority isn't owned by the root?
[21:59] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: wait, ubuntu 15.10 is not even supported by CUDA toolkit
[21:59] <foreverian12> SlidingHorn: ok i think i can understand that. thanks again. :p
[21:59] <k1l> JCT500THz: do "ls -al" in the tty1 logged in as the user. it names owner and owning group
[21:59] <Rene2_> eric^^: think its -p -l -d, right?
[22:00] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-cuda-toolkit | BigFire
[22:00] <EriC^^> Rene2_: no, -p 1
[22:00] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: wily version
[22:00] <Rene2_> hm..
[22:00] <JCT500THz> If it's in grey... what does that mean?
[22:00] <EriC^^> Rene2_: that's the partition number of the efi
[22:00] <Rene2_> 1l
[22:00] <k1l> JCT500THz: are you logged into tty1?
[22:00] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: that is a good way to test something without messing around in the current system :D
[22:01] <JCT500THz> Yeah...
[22:01] <EriC^^> Rene2_: it's the number 1
[22:01] <Rene2_> eric^^: thats what i was checking :D
[22:01] <JCT500THz> I used CTRL-ALT-F1, then logged in, then used the command
[22:01] <k1l> JCT500THz: then look at the owner
[22:01] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: but experiment first with 14.04 drivers
[22:01] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: when i installed CUDA, it said it had 2 GB...
[22:02] <k1l> JCT500THz: that is not rocketscience. either it names your user or root.
[22:02] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: 2 gig what?
[22:02] <JCT500THz> I'm the first on the list.
[22:02] <JCT500THz> Before the root. I had to use |more to see it.
[22:02] <Rene2_> eric^^: worked
[22:02] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: 2 gig is the size of cuda-toolkit package
[22:03] <foreverian12> SlidingHorn: can i pm you?
[22:03] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: it contains probably NVIDIA driver as well
[22:03] <JCT500THz> I think I'm gonna reboot before I can do anything else.
[22:03] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: 2gig would be very high...installed size 47433 kB
[22:03] <k1l> JCT500THz: i dont think you are doing it right there. if you are at tty1 and logged into that user, that got the login issue and then do "ls -al" .Xauthority is one of the last things listed so you will not need to do anything besides looking at the output
[22:03] <SlidingHorn> foreverian12: try to keep it in the channel - that way people can benefit if they need similar advice and other helpers can make sure you're not getting bad advice
[22:03] <k1l> *sigh*
[22:04] <Guest88728> hi guys, what is decent pdf reader and annotator in ubuntu?
[22:05] <lotuspsychje> !info mupdf | Guest88728 lightweight
[22:05] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje:  i thought the same, too high.. but check this out the .run file is super huge   https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads
[22:05] <foreverian12> SlidingHorn: ok ;o
[22:06] <win32> ZzzzzZz (S)
[22:06] <tomer> I'm trying to learn OpenCL and have installed the nvidia-opencl-dev package. However I can't seem to locate libOpenCL.so on my system, does anyone know if I need to get that as a separate package as well?
[22:06] <k1l> win32: please stop that constant offtopic in here. if you want to chat there is ##chat or #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:07] <win32> k1l thnx.
[22:07] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: yeah shows 1.9 indeed, try apt-get download nvidia-cuda-toolkit perhaps to see how big repo version is?
[22:07] <BigFire_> lotuspsychje: in the end, i gave up and chose the smaller online installer .deb
[22:07] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: i wouldnt mix higher cuda versions with trusty, better use version for trusty
[22:08] <lotuspsychje> !latest > BigFire here's why
 so you suggest me to use the cuda-toolkit from repo?
[22:08] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: yes
[22:08] <jct500thz> Nope. It's still doing the same thing. It gives this specific error: "specified failsafe session is not marked as failsafe" when I try to log in under Xubuntu.
[22:08] <Rene2_> eric^^: what now?
 only 16Mb.... with that download command
[22:09] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: ok
[22:09] <jct500thz> What's it mean by Failsafe?
[22:09] <jct500thz> And how do I fix it?
 thanks a lot mate. This problem seems more clear to me.
[22:10] <daftykins> jct500thz: rebooting when you did achieved nothing. you are not paying attention to what is being asked of you
[22:10] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: ok hope it will help :p
[22:10] <jct500thz> No, daftykins, I was asked to use the command mv .cache .cacheold and then reboot.
 good night. Gonna take a break of the long-day working :)
[22:11] <jct500thz> I tried that and it didn't work.
[22:11] <lotuspsychje> BigFire: laterz mate
[22:11] <daftykins> jct500thz: you were also asked to look at ownership
[22:11] <jct500thz> .. How do I do that again?
[22:12] <SlidingHorn> jct500thz: ls -l    the first name listed is the owner
[22:13] <daftykins> jct500thz: different approach, log in at TTY1 and see if your system is online; it likely won't be if you use wifi (test with "ping google.com" for example - ctrl+c to stop)
[22:13] <jct500thz> Ok.
[22:13] <SlidingHorn> ^^ or ping -c 3 google.com will stop after 3 tries
[22:14] <daftykins> SlidingHorn: given someone is struggling with reading 'ls' output lets make life simple and try to avoid too many cooks, mmm? :)
[22:14] <EriC^^> Rene2_: i got dc, did you paste the link?
[22:15] <Rene2_> ehm..
[22:15] <jct500thz> 3 packets transmitted, 3 recieved, ping 2002.
[22:15] <Rene2_> eric^^: last thing i did was
[22:15] <hdon_> ubuntu 14.04 server installer failed: Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error.'
[22:15] <Rene2_> eric^^: sudo efitbootmgr  -c -w -l \\EFI...
[22:15] <daftykins> jct500thz: so "sudo apt install pastebinit && ls -al ~/ | pastebinit"
[22:15] <Rene2_> eric^^:  there was no link yet
[22:16] <EriC^^> Rene2_: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | pastebinit
[22:16] <hdon_> where does the ubuntu 14.04 server installer put its grub files? i need to do it by hand, i guess
[22:16] <jct500thz> Is there any way to paste these commands from Xchat into TTY1?
[22:16] <squanto> hmm
[22:16] <daftykins> jct500thz: you could do with the typing practice.
[22:16] <daftykins> stop looking for easy ways out
[22:16] <Rene2_> eric^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13837189/
[22:16] <hdon_> jct500thz: if you're using xchat, may i recommend using a virtual terminal emulator for X instead of one of the kernel-provided VTs?
[22:17] <Bali> i did not have to do nomodeset with 14.04 , the problem was with the 15.10 for me
[22:17] <squanto> detach
[22:17] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Bali
[22:17] <hdon_> oh, sorry daftykins :3
[22:17] <daftykins> s'ok, i know you mean well
[22:18] <squanto> anyone have any tips how to use irssi?
[22:18] <squanto> pretty confused
[22:18] <Jordan_U_> hdon_: What you want to do is run grub-install manually, which will hopefully give you a better error message which you can then act on.
[22:18] <lotuspsychje> squanto: join #irssi perhaps
[22:18] <daftykins> tonnes of beginner guides online, squanto - also off topic for here
[22:18] <squanto> thank you
[22:18] <Bali> can you guys offer me some kind of good ubuntu, linux training im interested in shell and everything, and the system is not fully strange for me
[22:18] <Jordan_U_> hdon_: Does the Ubuntu server installer have an option to "recover" an existing installation or similar?
[22:19] <jct500thz> daftykins, I did what you told me to.
[22:19] <k1l> daftykins: lightdm does have network through NM since some time. so if lightdm starts there is network in tty1
[22:19] <daftykins> Bali: free course LFS101x on www.edx.org
[22:19] <jct500thz> It came up with a link.
[22:19] <daftykins> k1l: funky, i wonder when that change came about o0
[22:19] <daftykins> jct500thz: yeah type it here
[22:19] <Bali> daftykins: thanks, i will try it
[22:19] <jct500thz> Oh, goodness. More typing.
[22:20] <jct500thz> Hold on.
[22:20] <daftykins> gosh, having to work to fix ones problems
[22:20] <k1l> daftykins: around 14.04 iirc. it was made for that remote desktop thingy lightdm supports
[22:21] <Jordan_U_> daftykins: k1l: Only if your wireless network is configured as "avialable to all users" (which means that its password is stored unencrypted).
[22:21] <jct500thz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13837249/
[22:21] <k1l> Jordan_U_: right
[22:21] <lotuspsychje> does purging seahorse automaticly disabled gnome-keyring also?
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> Bewaar artikel
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> Tweet
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[22:21] <MonkeyDust> SDM
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> 5/12/15 - 06u17  Bron: NASA Een stukje van de meest gedetailleerde foto van Pluto. © NASA.
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> Zoals het ruimtevaartagentschap NASA eerder beloofde, komen we nog wekelijks nieuwe dingen te weten over Pluto.  Nice!
[22:22] <jct500thz> What can you tell from it?
[22:22] <daftykins> jct500thz: "pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors"
[22:22] <k1l> dutch cat on kb :)
[22:22] <daftykins> that we need more
[22:22] <MonkeyDust>     12 reacties
[22:22] <lotuspsychje> genii: must be wrong channel, he's doing alot of support for us
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> Wetenschappers van de Amerikaanse ruimteorganisatie NASA hebben het mysterie van de verdwenen atmosfeer van Mars opgelost.  Did i spell that wrong?
[22:25] <jct500thz> No..
[22:25] <daftykins> jct500thz: what did you do before this problem started?
[22:25] <Bali> MonkeyDust: thanks, i will try it too
[22:25] <lotuspsychje> does uninstalling seahorse automaticly disable gnome-keyring?
[22:26] <Rene2_> eric^^: you still there?
[22:26] <k1l> jct500thz: is "whoami" jct... ?
[22:26] <EriC^^> Rene2_: yeah, it looks good, try to restart
[22:27] <jct500thz> Well, if I remember correctly.... I deleted all the files in /home/jct500thz/.cache/sessions and then deleted the directory itself... and then recreated the directory... and then I logged out and tried to log back in and then that's when the problem occured.
[22:28] <daftykins> i think someone with access to that path on a desktop install will need to take over, i've got nothing
[22:28] <Guest88728> which characterviewer should I use on ubuntu?
[22:29] <jct500thz> I think I can run in Ubuntu for now.
[22:29] <jct500thz> but Xubuntu isn't working...
[22:29] <jct500thz> Is there anyway to REINSTALL Xubuntu? at all?
[22:30] <jct500thz> Maybe that might work?
[22:30] <Rene___> eric^^: youre the best
[22:30] <hdon_> hey guys, i'm not familiar with the new world of GPT and 1MB "reserved BIOS boot areas." what do i do about the boot flag? has that changed? do i need to make the "reserved BIOS boot area" bootable?
[22:30] <daftykins> you modified user files, not the DE packages.
[22:30] <Rene___> eric^^: looks like its working, at least starting now
[22:31] <EriC^^> Rene___: great :)
[22:31] <daftykins> EFI doesn't require bootable flags
[22:32] <Jordan_U_> hdon_: The "boot flag" isn't interpreted by your BIOS but rather by some (like Micorsoft's) bootloader code in the MBR. Grub's MBR doesn't care about boot flags at all, which is true for both msdos labeled drives and GPT labeled drives.
[22:34] <jct500thz> This is the directory in specific that i deleted the contents of. http://i.imgur.com/SAyPLn2.png
[22:34] <hdon_> Jordan_U: ahhhhh. cool :) thanks!
[22:34] <daftykins> jct500thz: wow, an empty folder... nice
[22:35] <Jordan_U> hdon_: You're welcome. For more information about how to properly create a BIOS Boot Partition see: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/BIOS-installation.html
[22:35]  * hdon_ clicks
[22:35] <jct500thz> But.. now it won't boot.
[22:36] <jct500thz> What's the Xubuntu command to clear session data (in the terminal)?
[22:36] <bobey6> Would you guys use Btrfs on a somewhat production fileserver yet?
[22:37] <lotuspsychje> !btfrs | bobey6
[22:37] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | bobey6
[22:37] <lotuspsychje> bobey6: i hear 16.04 will hve better btrfs support also
[22:37] <bobey6> I was under the impression it was marked as stable
[22:38] <EriC^^> me too, i think the factoid is old, don't know alot about btrfs though
[22:38] <Jordan_U> bobey6: It is no longer "marked as experimental".
[22:38] <BlackFate> Hello ppl, I try to bisect some kernel versions and one of the commits seems to fail. What's the best approach at this point? Should I try and "git bisect skip" the problematic commit?
[22:39] <bobey6> I've been reading many opinions on the ubuntu forums & reddit but I figured I'd inquire here too :)
[22:40] <Jordan_U> bobey6: btrfs is less stable than ext4. If you are going to make good use of its features, like snapshots and cp --reflink, then it may be worth the slight loss in stability. Also, no matter what filesystem you use you should have good backups.
[22:40] <lotuspsychje> BlackFate: maybe thats a more advanced question for #ubuntu-devel ?
[22:40] <hdon_> hi guys
[22:41] <bobey6> Jordan_U, true story. I just got into the backblaze b2 beta.. I'm going to try that out for my backups
[22:41] <BlackFate> thanks lotuspsychje
[22:41] <bobey6> I was mostly interested in btrfs for the checksum stuff
[22:41] <Jordan_U> BlackFate: Fail to compile or fail to run? When bisecting you pretty much by definition want it to fail at some point (though usually in a fairly specific way).
[22:41] <hdon_> i installed grub, but my bios tells me no bootable device :C
[22:41] <BlackFate> Jordan_U, fail to compile
[22:42] <Jordan_U> hdon_: How did you install grub?
[22:42] <hdon_> i did it with the ubuntu 14.04.3 server installer disk
[22:42] <hdon_> Jordan_U: using the installer
[22:42] <EriC^^> hdon_: i thought it said failed to install grub?
[22:43] <hdon_> EriC^^: i fixed it. i went back and double-checked my partitions. the ones that were supposed to be the 1MB reserved boot partitions were marked "unused"
[22:43] <Jordan_U> hdon_: Were you given the option of selecting between multiple devices for the grub installation? If so, which device did you choose?
[22:43] <hdon_> EriC^^: when i went through it again it installed grub without a problem
[22:43] <EriC^^> hdon_: ok, is legacy enabled and the disk first in the boot order?
[22:43] <k1l> bobey6: the fs as such is quite stable. but the whole stuff around that is not that rocksolid like ext4 is. so if something goes wrong its easier to fix a ext4. so be sure your backupplan works
[22:43] <hdon_> Jordan_U: well, i've got two 3TB disks with a few partitions on them. it didn't give me a choice of disks, but it installed it to both disks, which is what i wanted.
[22:44] <bobey6> thank you guys
[22:44] <hdon_> Jordan_U: the only thing it gave me was a warning that other OSes might become unbootable (irrelvant -- no other OS)
[22:44] <hdon_> EriC^^: what is legacy? also, i chose my disk manually using the bios boot menu
[22:44] <hdon_> there are only two disks, and the optical drive, at the moment
[22:45] <hdon_> but no media in the optical drive
[22:45] <hdon_> i'm trying the second disk now -- same thing
[22:45] <Jordan_U> bobey6: Also, if you want to use btrfs then you should regularly upgrade to the latest stable kernel as new releases are made. If you're not prepared to do that, then you shouldn't use btrfs yet.
[22:45] <bobey6> Jordan_U, that's a great point as well.
[22:45] <hdon_> EriC^^: what's the legacy mode you asked about?
[22:45] <EriC^^> hdon_: it's csm legacy , as opposed to uefi
[22:46] <hdon_> EriC^^: i think i have really old bios, not uefi
[22:46] <hdon_> EriC^^: it doesn't even know the right capcity of my hdds
[22:46] <hdon_> EriC^^: but it was booting centos, so it's possible
[22:47] <EriC^^> hdon_: with a gpt partition table?
[22:47] <hdon_> EriC^^: well, that's what i'm thinking is the problem
[22:47] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | hdon_
[22:47] <hdon_> thanks Jordan_U, i'll check out this boot info thing
[22:48] <hdon_> EriC^^: but i need GPT to support the 3TB capacity, don't i?
[22:48] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:48] <EriC^^> if you want a single 2tb+ partition
[22:49] <hdon_> EriC^^: well, ideally...
[22:49] <hdon_> this is a Pentium 4 btw :|
[22:50] <Jordan_U> hdon_: There were (broken) BIOSs that required a partition to be marked "active" to consider the drive bootable. You may have such a BIOS, in which case you just need to use fdisk to mark the GPT protective partition active. Note that this is actually a violaition of the GPT spec, but sometimes you need to break things when dealing with broken things (in this case buggy BIOSs).
[22:50] <OpenSorce> Is there a gui method for changing grub entry settings?
[22:50] <hdon_> my BIOS reads in a few placed where it should say "Enhanced" instead it says "Enhabced" :|
[22:51] <Jordan_U> OpenSorce: None that I would recommend using.
[22:51] <Jordan_U> OpenSorce: What are you trying to change?
[22:51] <hdon_> Jordan_U: oh, what is the GPT Protective Partition? does the GPT just get stored inside a traditional partition on the disk?
[22:51] <OpenSorce> Jordan_U, same answer I'd give if someone asked but I need to make my mom's grub menu easier to understand :-P
[22:51] <hdon_> Jordan_U: and what is "active?"
[22:52] <EriC^^> hdon_: check here it has info about bios + gpt and issues http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/bios.html#bios
[22:52] <OpenSorce> editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg doesn't do it.
[22:52] <k1l> OpenSorce: make a custom grub script in the grub script folder.
[22:52]  * hdon_ clicks
[22:52] <EriC^^> protective mbr is just a fake 512byte mbr so an os doesn't think there's no partition table and try to make one hdon_
[22:53] <Jordan_U> k1l: OpenSorce: It is rarely a good idea to change anything in /etc/grub.d/, and it is also rarely needed.
[22:54] <k1l> Jordan_U: no. that is the intended way to change things in grub. like ordering or add/change entries
[22:54] <hdon_> i really wish ubuntu server installer disk's "rescue" menu option didn't try mounting my filesystems for me
[22:54] <OpenSorce> Jordan_U, I know. I just need "Windows Recovery blah blah" to say "Windows 10" like it should :-P
[22:54] <daftykins> what's in a name?
[22:54] <OpenSorce> daftykins, it's my mom
[22:55] <hdon_> what does "protective" MBR mean?
[22:55] <daftykins> why are you making her dualboot?
[22:55] <EriC^^> hdon_: i explained above
[22:55] <k1l> OpenSorce: set the OS_Prober to not be executable, then make a own custom script that links to the windows partition with the right name.
[22:55] <OpenSorce> daftykins, does it matter? She needs Windows for work stuff.
[22:55] <Jordan_U> k1l: The intended way to change things in grub is via /etc/default/grub . Editing files in /etc/grub.d/ will cause pain when upgrading, and most cases where users would add files are better handled by adding entries to /boot/grub/custom.cfg instead.
[22:56] <OpenSorce> k1l, thanks I'll look up how to do that :-)
[22:56] <Rene___> eric^^ actually i have another problem
[22:56] <k1l> Jordan_U: you cant change the stuff like naming the windows parts etc in the default file
[22:56] <daftykins> OpenSorce: it does actually, as i'd wonder why you're making her go through it at all
[22:56] <Jordan_U> k1l: For example, rather than changing the execute bit on /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober you should add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true to /etc/default/grub.
[22:56] <hdon_> EriC^^: oh sorry
[22:56] <EriC^^> Rene___: ?
[22:57] <OpenSorce> daftykins, but not the question that I asked. Jordan_U I'll look into that too.
[22:57] <hdon_> ohh, thanks
[22:57] <daftykins> OpenSorce: ok, enjoy that bad attitude
[22:57] <Rene___> eric^^ system was installing some updates including drivers, now hes still starting ubuntu but when i login with password hes always just returning to that login screen
[22:57] <EriC^^> Rene___: it's a driver issue most likely
[22:58] <hdon_> EriC^^: Jordan_U: setting the bootable flag using fdisk 2.20 got it to boot :)
[22:58] <Jordan_U> k1l: If you want to change the name of the Windows entry then you should disable os proper via /etc/default/grub and add a manual entry with the name you want to /boot/grub/custom.cfg . Modifying /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober will cause prompts any time there is an update to /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober in a new grub-common package.
[22:58] <EriC^^> Rene___: try the guest account, if it doesn't work it's a driver issue
[22:58] <EriC^^> hdon_: awesome
[22:58] <Rene___> eric^^ tried that, and im pretty sure it is one but i dont know how to fix without access
[22:58] <hdon_> now it looks like mdadm is complaining C:
[22:59] <OpenSorce> daftykins, stop. Nothing wrong with my attitude. I asked a specific question, I was looking for the answer to it not an inquisition into why I wanted to know that. Be nice!
[22:59] <Jordan_U> hdon_: Great, now that you know you have a BIOS that is buggy in one way, it's likely it's also buggy in another (and therefore you should implement another work around). What size does your BIOS report your disks to be?
[22:59] <EriC^^> Rene___: does the guest account work?
[23:00] <OpenSorce> Jordan_U, I'm starting to believe that's the way to go. Or maybe figure out how to make the Windows partition properly identify itself.
[23:00] <Rene___> eric^^ nope thats the problem
[23:00] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, then it's a driver issue, and not a user config issue
[23:00] <hdon_> is there an option i can pass to grub to get a shell as early as possible? on centos the kernel had the "rdshell" option but it only gave me a shell when it would usually have panicked because it couldn't mount the new root partition
[23:01] <EriC^^> Rene___: you have to use the tty to fix it, press ctrl+alt+f1
[23:01] <k1l> Jordan_U: then grub manual names either custom.cfg or making own/or change the scripts in grub.d/
[23:01] <Jordan_U> OpenSorce: Please pastebin the output of "sudo os-prober".
[23:01] <k1l> *the
[23:01] <Rene___> eric^^ kk, btw pretty sure its the cpu he didnt detect it
[23:01] <hdon_> brb
[23:02] <upsetguy> guys !
[23:02] <Jordan_U> k1l: And I'm telling you that changing scripts in /etc/grub.d/ on Debian based OSs will cause upgrades of grub-common to block asking the user what they want to do about the new version of the file they have manually changed.
[23:02] <upsetguy> i need some help
[23:02] <upsetguy> i installed ubuntu, and no windows on grub
[23:02] <OpenSorce> Jordan_U, will do. I'll come back when I get on that machine.
[23:02] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | upsetguy
[23:02] <upsetguy> and its my corporate pc with important files on my windows side.
[23:03] <k1l> Jordan_U: that is why i said to add an own script there.
[23:03] <Rene___> eric^^: i logged in after pressing that, what do i type in?
[23:03] <upsetguy> jordan
[23:03] <Jordan_U> k1l: And if that script would simply output a static entry, it's much easier and more reliable to just add that static entry to /boot/grub/custom.cfg .
[23:03] <upsetguy> can you be clear ?
[23:04] <EriC^^> Rene___: sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | pastebinit
[23:05] <Jordan_U> upsetguy: There is a script called "boot info script" that gathers a lot of information about your system that is helpful for debugging boot problems.
[23:05] <Rene___> eric^^: i need to use sudo apt-get install first but then he tells me the dpkg process got interrupted
[23:06] <OerHeks> upsetguy, read that page, instructions are pretty clear
[23:06] <EriC^^> Rene___: hmm type sudo apt-get -f install
[23:06] <OpenSorce> Jordan_U, actually... the system I'm on does the same thing. One sec I'll paste.
[23:06] <EriC^^> Rene___: did you run out of space or something? type df -h
[23:06] <hdon_> Jordan_U: 801.5MB (they are roughly 3TB)
[23:07] <Jordan_U> hdon_: I hope you at least meant 801.5 GB there.
[23:07] <hdon_> err, yes
[23:07] <hdon_> oh, wow... i've never seen a grub menu like this
[23:07] <OerHeks> hdon_, pentium 4 ..sure that mobo supports 2-3tb hdd?
[23:07] <hdon_> man i'm really behind on boot procedures...
[23:07] <OpenSorce> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/mKKxHN5B
[23:07] <Netek> hi all
[23:07] <Netek> I have a new laptop and I wish to install Ubuntu
[23:08] <Rene___> eric^^ more than enough, tells me to use sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:08] <hdon_> OerHeks: it doesn't seem to matter. linux supports it, and as long as the bios can load the bootloader, i'm good
[23:08] <EriC^^> Rene___: ok, run that
[23:08] <Netek> on the new laptop I have a recovery partition.  If I retain the recovery partition for windows 10 will I still be able to do a windows recovery?  If so how please?
[23:08] <EriC^^> Netek: most likely no, the bios doesn't like when the partition table is changed usually and the recovery wont run right
[23:09] <OpenSorce> Netek, the guys in ##windows might help with that. If they are in a good mood :-)
[23:09] <MWM> Ive been trying to get partitions to automount with Disks but I still have to go into my UI and actually click on a HDD for it to mount
[23:09] <EriC^^> Netek: you can make a recovery usb before installing anything though
[23:09] <Netek> EriC^^ so I guess it would be better if I just repartition the hd and dual boot I guess
[23:09] <MWM> Will editing the fstab act the same way?
[23:09] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | Netek
[23:09] <Jordan_U> hdon_: That means that, while you may not be having boot issues now, you likely will have some in the future if any of the files that grub needs to read at boot get stored past your BIOSs limit (which is apparently 801.5 GB). To prevent problems, the easiest work around is to create a separate small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive. Since this partition will be entirely within the area your BIOS can read, ...
[23:09] <Jordan_U> ... and will contain all of the files grub needs to read at boot, you should avoid running into problems with your BIOS not being able to read parts of your disk.
[23:10] <Rene___> eric^^: paste.ubuntu.com/13838671/
[23:10] <hdon_> Jordan_U: i thought that's what the "reserve bios boot area" was
[23:10] <Netek> ok thanks