[06:03] <Kilos> morning all
[06:22] <Superhuman> morning Kilos
[06:23] <Kilos> hyi Superhuman hows you?
[06:23] <Superhuman> always good and you?
[06:23] <Kilos> good too ty
[06:23] <Kilos> why dont you attend monthly meetings
[06:23] <Kilos> naughty boy
[06:26] <Superhuman> Honestly, I forget about it, and most nights we're busy with the kids, and it gets too hectic to attend a meeting
[06:26] <Kilos> lol
[06:26]  * Superhuman has a 2.5 year old boy and a 4 month old girl.
[06:26] <Kilos> lovely
[06:27] <Superhuman> Home life is hectic atm. I come to work to relax.
[06:27] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:33] <Kilos> hi bomberman
[06:34] <bomberman> Morning Kilos! :) coffee?
[06:34] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[06:34]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:35] <Kilos> ask maaz for a mug bomberman
[06:35] <Kilos> you got under 4 mins
[06:36] <bomberman> haha, cool!
[06:36] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[06:36] <Maaz> Kilos: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses
[06:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:39] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[06:39] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[06:39] <magespawn> good morning
[06:39] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[06:39] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[06:48] <Kilos> oh magespawn i gotta find a link for you
[06:49] <magespawn> cool Kilos
[06:50] <Kilos> tiny data recovery tool
[06:50] <Kilos> forgot where is put it
[06:50] <Kilos> hang on
[06:53] <Kilos> http://download.cnet.com/Remo-Recover-Free-Edition/3000-2248_4-75914154.html?part=dl-&subj=dl&tag=button
[06:55] <Kilos> magespawn, ^^
[06:55] <magespawn> ty Kilos, i will check it out
[06:56] <Kilos> k
[06:58] <Kilos> only its a sucks tool .exe
[07:02] <bomberman> What needs to be recovered?
[07:02] <Kilos> we do recoveries at times bomberman and i use testdisk foremost and scalpel
[07:03] <Kilos> magespawn, does it in his pc shop
[07:04] <magespawn> we use that sucks when we have to Kilos
[07:04] <Kilos> testdisk photorec and foremost recover just about everything
[07:04] <Kilos> yip
[07:04] <magespawn> i found a photorec and testdisk for the n900
[07:04] <Kilos> might be good for small jobs
[07:04] <Kilos> thats cool
[07:06] <magespawn> not really sure how to apply them, but will experiment when and if i have time
[07:07] <Kilos> lol
[07:08] <Kilos> im the only one with time on my side
[07:09] <Kilos> i forgot i wanted to ask the pro who i was on the g+ thing
[07:09] <Kilos> sigh
[07:09] <Kilos> was such a shock to see him
[07:10] <bomberman> The tool needs to be able to put the drive into read only mode, otherwise you can end up losing more data during recovery.
[07:11] <Kilos> oh that .exe one bomberman ?
[07:13] <Kilos> with help from the crash kid i fixed one external just with an fsck command
[07:13] <bomberman> whichever tool is being used :)
[07:13] <Kilos> oh
[07:14] <magespawn> here is the main company site http://www.remosoftware.com/
[07:18] <bomberman> is it NTFS?
[07:18] <Kilos> there are lotsa clever peeps out there
[07:19] <Kilos> most lost data is on ntfs drives that crash imo
[07:19] <bomberman> recovery is not so difficult. you scan disk structure, if that is damaged you look for its backup. if that is also damaged, then you need to scan each sector for file headers and recover like that. If the disk is too fragmented the recovery will be much harder.
[07:20] <Kilos> bomberman, have you tried testdisk foremost and scalpel?
[07:20] <Kilos> they work well but take ages
[07:21] <bomberman> yes I used them. Its good to play around and hacking but you need enterprise quality software to recover full disks.
[07:22] <Kilos> such as?
[07:22] <Kilos> the pay $49 dollars ones
[07:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[07:28] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy hows kubuntu?
[07:28] <Kilos> lekker hey
[07:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> so far so good
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> all my misc packages are still installing
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> puppet FTW
[07:29] <Kilos> whew
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> well not "still", i shut down the laptop last night
[07:29] <Kilos> Maaz, google puppet
[07:29] <Maaz> Kilos: "Puppet Labs: IT Automation Software for System Administrators" https://puppetlabs.com/ :: "What is Puppet? | Puppet Labs" https://puppetlabs.com/puppet/what-is-puppet/ :: "Puppet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet :: "Puppet (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet_(software) ::
[07:29] <Maaz> "puppetlabs/puppet · GitHub" https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet :: "Amazon.com: Puppet…
[07:33] <Kilos> ah i see its in our repos
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> great, bumblebee is installed now my poor laptop can cool down a bit
[08:01] <Kilos> lol
[08:02] <Kilos> you use that bumblebee
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have to, else my battery life is laughable
[08:02] <Kilos> we had a poor ballie here that had major pc probs one time
[08:03] <Kilos> some bumblebee thing was interfering
[08:05] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:05] <magespawn> ThatGraemeGuy: what is bumblebee
[08:05] <magespawn> ?
[08:05] <Kilos> haha i remember the guys asking langjan the same thing
[08:06] <Kilos> you forget magespawn ?
[08:06] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:06] <psyatw> hello magespawn
[08:06] <magespawn> hi psyatw
[08:06] <magespawn> i forget too mucj Kilos
[08:06] <magespawn> too much even
[08:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> magespawn: newer laptops sometimes have nvidia graphics as well as intel graphics. it's called "nvidia optimus/primus"
[08:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> nvidia card for gfx-intensive stuff, intel for normal stuff
[08:07] <magespawn> ahh right, so i did find the right page
[08:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> under windows the nvidia drivers handle turning the nvidia card on an off as needed
[08:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> under linux, by default the nvidia card stays on
[08:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> bumblebee turns it off, only turning it on when needed
[08:09] <magespawn> so bit like nvidia drivers for linux, cool
[08:10] <Kilos> magespawn, you need to rev them durbs okes about their UH or something so they dont let the fly down
[08:11] <Kilos> i forget what it was but he said he would join them
[08:13] <magespawn> not too sure myself actually
[08:13] <Kilos> lol
[08:13] <Kilos> nuvolari, waar is jy
[08:13] <Kilos> ?
[08:49] <Kilos> wbb
[09:19] <Kilos> morning superfly
[09:21] <superfly> morning Kilos
[09:21] <superfly> ohi magespawn, ThatGraemeGuy, psyatw
[09:22] <Kilos> even the human was here today
[09:22] <magespawn> hey superfly
[10:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> ello
[10:36] <magespawn> okay, so i reinstalled kubuntu 12.10 from disk, ran all the updates then i am busy doing a release upgrade through muon which seems to be going ahead fine
[10:37] <Kilos> yay
[10:37] <Kilos> muon is almost as lekker as synaptic
[10:38] <magespawn> just taking awhile to get all the new software, i am also wgetting two other large iso files
[10:39] <Kilos> whew busy hey
[10:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone know how to get KDE's telepathy to open a chat window when a new chat comes in?
[10:52] <Kilos> oh my
[10:54] <Guest5061> hey Mrs
[10:54] <Kilos> hi Guest5061
[10:55] <Kilos> no mrs here this is a ubuntu help channel
[10:55] <Guest5061> im new to this
[10:55] <Kilos> can we help you?
[10:56] <Kilos> what do you want to do
[10:56] <Guest5061> hw do i chat to other ppl?
[10:56] <Kilos> about?
[10:57] <Kilos> lol
[10:58]  * ThatGraemeGuy throws rocks at superfly
[10:59] <Kilos> lol
[10:59] <Kilos> is telepathy a im client?
[10:59] <Kilos> like pidgin?
[11:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> i know you're online, you were on facebook minutes ago :P
[11:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: indeed it is
[11:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> if someone starts a chat with me, i get a notification popup thing, and a "respond" button which appears to not work
[11:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> i want it to just create a window when someone starts a chat, like pidgin does
[11:01] <Kilos> why not use pidgin?
[11:01] <Kilos> and use guifications
[11:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm thinking i might as well
[11:03] <Kilos> pidgin rocks
[11:03] <Kilos> and in muon you find lots you can add to pidgin
[11:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> muon?
[11:04] <Kilos> package manager
[11:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh
[11:04] <Kilos> just type muon
[11:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> muon
[11:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> :P
[11:05] <Kilos> there is a package manager and an update manager
[11:06] <Kilos> you tick first very left bottom to open apps or something and type muon at the top
[11:06] <Kilos> lemme boot to kde
[11:06] <Kilos> wbb
[11:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah like synaptic i guess
[11:06] <Kilos> similar
[11:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> i do the apt-get thing, it's what i'm used to :)
[11:09] <Kilos> back
[11:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> wb
[11:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> using pidgin again, just easier that way :)
[11:16] <Kilos> lol
[11:17] <superfly> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[11:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, i gave up already :D
[11:18] <Kilos> oh you using pidgin for irc ThatGraemeGuy
[11:18] <superfly> that quickly?
[11:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> trying to figure out if telepathy can open a window on a new incoming chat
[11:18] <Kilos> quassel or konversation
[11:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> quassel for irc
[11:19] <Kilos> oh ok
[11:20] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: it can
[11:20] <superfly> oh... when it comes in?
[11:21] <superfly> hrm, I know what you mean, and I haven't managed to get it to do that yet... but I haven't been bothered enough to actually see if an option exists
[11:21] <superfly> Is Kopete still around?
[11:21] <superfly> that's a much better IM client than Telepathy
[11:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> it is, but i'm not sure what state its in since telepathy appears to be the successor
[11:23] <superfly> yeah, "successor" as in, "can do IM but doesn't have all the features of the client it is supposed to replace"
[11:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah, awesomesauce
[11:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> that makes sense
[11:24] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: for personal IM I've actually just removed the accounts from my computer and just use my phone
[11:24] <superfly> cause I get everything on my phone anyway
[11:34] <Kilos> hmm... kopete similar to pidgin but no mxit
[11:37] <Kilos> pidgin is the second best im client imho
[11:37] <Kilos> still looking for the best
[11:59] <bomberman> OBS Hackfest on Saturday https://www.facebook.com/events/474257305987287/
[12:03] <Symmetria> hahaha you guys seen the latest DA advert?
[12:03] <Symmetria> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s480x480/942107_10151453266688111_1305409925_n.jpg
[12:48] <Kilos> hi acherv
[12:48] <acherv> Kilos, hi
[13:18] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za
[13:21] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[13:39] <Symmetria> *HRM* dammit, I hate banks sometimes
[13:39] <Symmetria> what the hell is the point of having private banking and a dedicated banker if you can never get hold of them :(
[13:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> they're dedicated to ignoring you
[13:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> us normal plebs have to contend with some random person ignoring us
[13:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> you have a dedicated person for that :P
[14:00] <Kilos> rofl
[14:02] <Symmetria> lol
[14:03] <Symmetria> think she's gonna be ignoring me even more now ;p I phoned and crapped on them and asked for a new banker
[15:06] <Symmetria> my god incredible connection are a bunch of retards
[15:08] <Symmetria> I phoned them looking for 2 super high res dell monitors
[15:08] <Symmetria> they tell me they have stock
[15:08] <Symmetria> they gimme a price
[15:08] <Symmetria> I get there, and the guy tries to hand me a samsung
[15:11] <Cantide> ...
[15:13] <Kilos> hence the name incredible
[15:13] <Kilos> thats for when they get it right
[15:13] <Symmetria> I shat all over the manager
[15:13] <Symmetria> ;p
[15:13] <Cantide> unbelievable might suit them better :p
[15:13] <Cantide> Symmetria, nice :)
[15:13] <Cantide> I like Samsung though
[15:14] <Cantide> weren't they high-res enough?
[15:15] <Symmetria> cantide, samsung is only a 1080p monitor
[15:15] <Cantide> ah
[15:15] <Symmetria> the dell is like, 2560 x 1600 or something
[15:15] <Cantide> cool :)
[15:15] <Symmetria> already got the 2 samsung monitors, thats what I wanna replace
[15:15] <Cantide> lol
[15:15] <Cantide> selling them?
[15:15] <Symmetria> dunno yet, might give one to parental units
[15:15] <Cantide> ah
[15:16] <Cantide> not sure why i am tempted
[15:16] <Cantide> i might only have 3 months left here
[16:28] <Kilos> yo Vince-0
[16:28] <Vince-0> hi
[16:28] <Kilos> cant member seeing you today
[16:29] <Vince-0> ya was out of the office dealing with noobs
[16:29] <Kilos> ah
[16:29]  * Cantide doesn't recall being dealt with today '<
[16:29] <Kilos> haha nor me
[16:30] <Vince-0> one at a time, plz
[16:30] <Cantide> :)
[16:30] <Vince-0> try a whole call center full
[16:30] <Kilos> hehe
[16:30] <Cantide> lol
[16:30] <Kilos> ouch
[17:33] <Kilos> so
[17:34] <Kilos> what help do i ask for if everything is working?
[18:31] <Kilos> hi Xethron amanica Mezenir wassup
[18:31] <Kilos> cold here
[18:44] <Symmetria> Whats the similarity between 1995 and 2013?
[18:44] <Symmetria> ;p in both years people in Oklahoma got blown away
[18:50] <Tonberry_> wow that one makes the latest bombings seem almost amateurish
[19:28] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[07:33] <WaVeR> Morning
[07:58] <marcus> WaVeR, i think it should work out. let's see how it goes.
[19:40] <WaVeR> ok marcus
[19:40] <WaVeR> I'll try to see with others to get out the report and I'll update the page and keep you also informed about the change


[00:58] <gilbert> paultag: are you working the bof signup?
[01:19] <gilbert> paultag: probably good to get it done sooner rather than later so it gets into the online and print conf schedule
[02:35] <paultag> gilbert: bah, overloaded this weekend and next
[02:35] <paultag> gilbert: at a harvard hackathon, long story. just did this - http://instagram.com/p/P5q3kdK-gw/
[02:35] <paultag> gilbert: if you have a sec and feel like it, I've got to NMU a package real quick
[02:35] <paultag> otherwise leave it and i'll get to it this next week
[19:22] <stlsaint> w00t
[19:22] <stlsaint> anybody doing the tough mudder in april in oh?


[00:17] <Noskcaj> is there a remote access program in xubuntu?
[00:25] <Chaser> Noskcaj, for RDP ? there is remmina for remote desktop client.
[00:28] <Noskcaj> Chaser, ok, ty
[00:29] <David-A> Noskcaj: for SSH there is openssh-server
[00:30] <David-A> Noskcaj: an alternative to remmina is vinagre
[00:31] <Unit193> And remmina uses rdesktop or freerdp as a backend.  Pretty sure Vinagre comes by default.
[00:36] <Noskcaj> ok, thanks guys. when my install finishes i'll look into those
[00:38] <David-A> Noskcaj: I also think vinagre is installed by default. just look in the menu for Network>Remote Desktop Viewer
[03:56] <xubuntu862> brasiç
[04:56] <rmarker> how  do i get dvd decryption?
[05:06] <Unit193> !dvd | rmarker
[05:20] <bullgard4> I did a distribution-upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS. Then I installed the DEB program package »xubuntu-desktop«., logged out and logged in to »Xfce Session«. Now I have Xubuntu . In mc the letters are too small. How should I enlarge (scale up) the letters in mc?
[05:30] <packetfrog> mc
[05:30] <packetfrog> ?
[05:43] <bullgard4> packetfrog: mc stands for "Midnight Commander".
[05:50] <packetfrog> change the font size in your term
[06:07] <bullgard4> packetfrog: This is GNOME-Terminal  <IP_ADDRESS> here. How can I change its font size?
[06:11] <packetfrog> http://askubuntu.com/questions/58379/how-can-i-permanently-change-the-text-size-for-gnome-terminal
[06:11] <packetfrog> bullgard4,
[06:17] <bullgard4> packetfrog: This worked. Thank you very much for your help.
[06:21] <packetfrog> bullgard4, no worries :)
[06:21]  * packetfrog waves to sunstar
[07:20] <bullgard4> I did a dist-upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS, Thunar 1.2.3 > Edit > Settings... > Filemanager Settings > Display > (Default View) > Open Default View with: Detail view. How can I persuade Thunar to show the files in Detail view?
[07:47] <bullgard4> [solved]
[09:32] <florentin> can i have some help with activation nvidia driver for xubuntu ,i install the driver but when i try to open settings i have this:You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[09:33] <florentin> can i have some help with activation nvidia driver for xubuntu ,i install the driver but when i try to open settings i have this:You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[09:33] <packetfrog> Did you do what it says?
[09:34] <florentin> yes
[09:34] <florentin> and i have an error
[09:34] <packetfrog> what error
[09:34] <florentin> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[09:34] <florentin> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[09:34] <florentin> this
[09:34] <packetfrog> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:35] <packetfrog> try that
[09:35] <packetfrog> unable to open/write to/read/whatever is generally because you are not using sudo
[09:35] <florentin> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[09:35] <florentin> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[09:35] <florentin> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:36] <florentin> and now ?!
[09:36] <packetfrog> restart and see how it goes
[09:36] <packetfrog> Come back and let me know if it works
[11:08] <florentin> i can't start compiz in xubuntu 12.10 someonea have a direct profile ?! please
[11:33] <packetfrog> lar lar
[11:37] <elfy> anyone awake in here - got an issue driving me nuts, sometimes I start up to find wallpaper is only on one of my monitors - at some odd resolution, have to logout and login to make it on both screens - used arandr to setup screens - that appears to work fine, tried xfdesktop --reload - no difference
[11:37] <packetfrog> :>
[11:37] <packetfrog> It never works on my desktop
[11:37] <packetfrog> Unless I set to to cover both screens with one image and it looks like crap.
[11:38] <elfy> works fine on mine when I logout/in
[11:39] <packetfrog> I never bother to play with it, I only use my monitor on its side for pdf's and what not
[11:39] <elfy> so - can you help or not?
[11:40] <packetfrog> Install nitrogen?
[11:41] <elfy> default things should do the job
[11:47] <packetfrog> Everything I keep reading is saying install something    so obviously default does not work for many people and they dont share how :P
[11:48] <elfy> ok - I could go with that if it NEVER set the wallpaper properly - as it is maybe 3 out of 10 boots fails to show them :)
[11:48] <elfy> so something default is working sometimes :)
[11:56] <packetfrog> elfy: Was not arguing. I know your right. :)
[11:56] <elfy> I didn't think you were :)
[11:57] <elfy> just one of those really annoying things :|
[11:57]  * packetfrog offers some tea and cigarettes
[11:57] <elfy> ty lol
[12:35] <elfy> packetfrog: calling the script from lightdm.conf now - I'll see what happens now
[12:43]  * packetfrog keeps fingers crossed for elfy.
[13:22] <ochosi> elfy: i've recently been using xfdesktop from git – there were quite some improvements, also wrt multi-monitor-support. works quite well so far
[13:22] <elfy> excellent
[13:23] <ochosi> it's still in a separate branch, but will most likely be merged to git-master next week
[13:23] <elfy> in general I've no issues - just this annoying intermittent one :)
[13:23] <ochosi> it's really only good news if you're not afraid of compiling yourself :)
[13:23] <elfy> lol
[13:28] <packetfrog> ;/
[16:12] <aiena> HOw do you execute a python script from command line in xubnutu with root priviledges ?
[16:12] <aiena> *How
[16:14] <harvi> try " sudo python <script.py>  ... dont know If it works I dont use it :/
[16:15] <harvi> or try" sudo su" to get root rights  and then " python <script.py>" ... maybe it will work
[16:19] <aiena> thanks !
[16:19] <aiena> harvi: do you know how to install grofract in xubuntu ?
[16:19] <aiena> I have been trying !!
[16:20] <baizon> aiena: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnofract4d/files/gnofract4d/3.14.1/
[16:20] <baizon> there you just chose the right deb file
[16:21] <aiena> i chse the right file I tried it
[16:22] <harvi> aiena: grofract have .deb package. see http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnofract4d/
[16:22] <aiena> it opens up the ubuntu software center as gives a dependency is not satisfied python <2.7
[16:22] <aiena> baizon: that mode does not work
[16:22] <aiena> I tried to figure out the dependency
[16:22] <aiena> python is installed
[16:23] <aiena> and it is 2.7 I think
[16:23] <baizon> aiena: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f
[16:23] <aiena> I'll try
[16:23] <harvi> or try to download this. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnofract4d/files/gnofract4d/3.12/gnofract4d-python26_3.12-1ubuntu1_i386.deb/download
[16:24] <baizon> harvi: why using an old version?
[16:24] <aiena> baizon: I tried sudo apt-get install gnofract4d_3.14.1_amd64.deb -f
[16:24] <baizon> of course, if hes using xubuntu older than 12.04 that would make sense then
[16:24] <aiena> after cding to the directory
[16:25] <baizon> aiena: i didnt wrote that
[16:25] <aiena> cd 'ing
[16:25] <baizon> write sudo apt-get install -f
[16:25] <harvi> damn.. thats 3.12 ..sry my bad
[16:25] <aiena> ouch I thought xubuntu 12.04 comes with python 2.x
[16:26] <baizon> does it want to remove the  gnofract4d pkg?
[16:26] <aiena> seems like itys updated to 3.2 (:
[16:26] <baizon> aiena: it also have python2.7
[16:26] <aiena> no
[16:26] <aiena> baizon: it said 3.2 was installed
[16:26] <harvi> it has python 2.7.3 but gnofract want 2.6
[16:26] <aiena> but is not needed
[16:26] <aiena> harvi: yes
[16:26] <baizon> aiena: yes, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/python2.7
[16:27] <aiena> baizon: IS IT POSSIBLE TO DOWNGRADE TO 2.6.X
[16:27] <aiena> sorry for the caps
[16:27] <baizon> aiena: what gave the install -f command?
[16:27] <baizon> what was the result?
[16:28] <aiena> baizon http://pastebin.com/QiFxrZTm
[16:30] <baizon> aiena: ok try then: 1. cd to the  gnofract4d_3.14.1_amd64.deb file, 2. run sudo dpkg -i gnofract4d_3.14.1_amd64.deb, 3. run sudo apt-get install -f
[16:31] <harvi> baizon: how about using .....  sudo dpkg -i --force-all <package>
[16:31] <baizon> harvi: or this, yes
[16:32] <aiena> baizon: If I run harvi's command is it safe ?
[16:32] <baizon> aiena: if this doesnt work, show the result in pastebin please
[16:32] <aiena> in that case step 3 will not be needed right
[16:32] <baizon> aiena: yes
[16:32] <harvi> aiena: it is the same think.
[16:34] <harvi> i saw few posts but I havent find solution for this :/ ... but maybe downgrading python will work. Some of them tried to install 2 python versions in diferent folders with symlinks but it doesnt work
[16:35] <aiena> baizon it failed here is the second command output http://pastebin.com/CzXdmsTHon running sudo apt-get install -fit ask me to remove gnofract
[16:35] <baizon> aiena: wrong pastebin url
[16:36] <aiena> http://pastebin.com/CzXdmsTH
[16:36] <aiena> on running sudo apt-get install -f it ask me to remove gnofract
[16:36] <baizon> aiena: well then install python 2.6
[16:37] <baizon> aiena: install it from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125342/how-can-i-install-python-2-6-on-12-04
[16:37] <harvi> hmm.. downgrade python to 2.6 and install libjpeg62 too
[16:37] <aiena> so shoud I say yes to the output of sudo apt-get install -f
[16:37] <baizon> aiena: then try again
[16:38] <aiena> baizon: should I say yes to http://pastebin.com/xt9CvFmS before proceeding to downgrade to 2.6 ?
[16:39] <baizon> aiena: yes
[16:39] <aiena> that would automatically install libjpeg62 for me
[16:39] <baizon> aiena: yes, thats ok
[16:39] <aiena> I know
[16:39] <harvi> yes remove gnofract and libjpeg62 you dont need to install because it will be installed automatically
[16:40] <baizon> aiena: then add the python 2.6 ppa, install python 2.6 and try again the 3 steps i wrote (or 2 harvi wrote)
[16:45] <aiena> ok
[16:49] <aiena> Baizon same errors are coming !! I ran sudo-apt-get install -f to cleanup
[16:50] <aiena> * baizon
[16:50] <baizon> aiena: have you installed python 2.6?
[16:50] <aiena> yes
[16:50] <aiena> how do I verify
[16:51] <aiena> it wont list in synaptics
[16:51] <aiena> but it is installed
[16:52] <aiena> baizon: http://pastebin.com/VQCb6j7n
[16:52] <aiena> I think that log shows its installed
[16:53] <baizon> aiena: yes it is
[16:54] <baizon> but whats happening when you try to install your program?
[16:54] <aiena> I will show you
[16:54] <aiena> I have cleaned up before
[16:54] <aiena> with sudo apt-get install -f
[16:54] <aiena> so I will just re run
[16:55] <aiena> baizon: http://pastebin.com/umUCXGPM
[16:56] <baizon> aiena: try uninstalling python2.7
[16:56] <baizon> then again
[16:56] <aiena> yes there could be a conflict
[16:57] <aiena> baizon: synaptics says I have 1 broken package
[16:57] <aiena> One sec
[16:57] <aiena> I know which
[16:57] <baizon> ok :)
[16:58] <aiena> it was gnofract
[16:58] <aiena> the odd thing is synaptics does not list python 2.7
[16:58] <aiena> or the tick mark
[16:58] <aiena> si I cant purge/remove it from there
[16:58] <aiena> which command to run ?
[16:59] <aiena> *so
[16:59] <aiena> *can't
[16:59] <baizon> aiena: you dont need to remove it
[16:59] <baizon> use this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14615/how-do-i-make-the-terminal-run-python-3-1/14624#14624
[17:00] <aiena> baizon: sudo update-alternatives --config python
[17:00] <aiena> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for python.
[17:00] <aiena> it list that there are no alternatives - odd
[17:01] <aiena> the second line is the output
[17:03] <baizon> aiena: ou well the devs have a solution for the problem... http://sourceforge.net/p/gnofract4d/discussion/2319/thread/067884db
[17:05] <baizon> aiena: and read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929398
[17:06] <baizon> ok, i'm out.
[17:09] <Peyam> I will make a theme for xubuntu
[17:09] <aiena> cool !!
[17:09] <aiena> Tell me when you are done :)
[17:09] <aiena> I would love to see it
[17:09] <aiena> and maybe test it
[17:09] <Peyam> I dont know how I do it
[17:09] <Peyam> I mean how to set it upp but im good at graphics
[17:10] <Peyam> I will download one theme
[17:10] <Peyam> and follow
[17:11] <packetfrog> Make it a frog theme!
[17:11] <packetfrog> frogs are best
[17:11] <Peyam> frog?
[17:11] <Peyam> what is that
[17:12] <packetfrog> katak
[17:12] <Peyam> I dont know what that is
[17:13] <packetfrog> groda?
[17:13] <packetfrog> жаба
[17:13] <Peyam> ja but what do you mean?
[17:14] <TheSheep> Ding dong. We interrupt this chat to remind you, that there is an excellent #xubuntu-offtopic channel for non-support chat specially for your own convenience. Thank you. Ding dong.
[17:14] <aiena> Peyam: http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/frog-1.jpg and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Red_eyed_tree_frog_edit2.jpg for example
[17:14] <packetfrog> thesheep OMG IS THERE?
[17:14] <Peyam> I know what a frog is
[17:14] <aiena> OK !!
[17:14] <Peyam> but what does frog-theme look like
[17:15] <aiena> He is asking you to make a frog theme :)
[17:15] <aiena> Your the designer
[17:15] <aiena> do you want me to make a proof of concept ?
[17:15] <Peyam> my good
[17:15] <Peyam> goooooooooood
[17:15] <aiena> I can design a roughversion
[17:15] <aiena> for you
[17:15] <aiena> then you can get ideas :)
[17:15] <aiena> if you wish
[17:15] <aiena> *rough version
[17:15] <TheSheep> ekhem
[17:16] <packetfrog> watch out its an explosive sheep!
[17:16] <packetfrog> herd :/
[17:16] <aiena> TheSheep: is this channel only for support ?
[17:16] <TheSheep> aiena: yes
[17:16] <aiena> ouch OK
[17:16] <aiena> Peyam: gthen we shalt shift
[17:16] <TheSheep> aiena: no problem :)
[17:16] <packetfrog> Yes, So it must remain DEAD. VOID of all conversation. Or else it gets in the way of the immense amount of support going on.
[17:17] <aiena> packetfrog: these small chats add life and fun even in an on topic chgannel waht is important is that we do not interrupt a person seeking support in the process
[17:18] <aiena> *what
[17:18] <aiena> *channel
[17:18] <aiena> I don't think I am doing that
[17:18] <aiena> but lets raise the white flag !!:)
[17:18] <packetfrog> aiena, I was being entirely - overly - extremely sarcastic.
[17:19] <packetfrog> GridCube, Welcome to #Xubuntu support, How may the channel support you today?
[17:19] <aiena> packetfrog: I see !!
[17:19] <bekks> packetfrog: Hand him a beer, first :)
[17:20]  * packetfrog hands GridCube a frost "Dead guy ale".
[17:21] <GridCube> packetfrog, :) hi
[17:31] <posdifu> exit
[17:31] <posdifu> exit
[17:31] <posdifu> ups sorry :)
[17:31] <packetfrog> lar
[20:28] <kAworu_> hi !
[20:28] <kAworu> I've just installed xubuntu (12.10) and it works like a charm (I'm even able to run i3 as wm which is kind of incredible).
[20:30] <kAworu> Now I have a very simple problem. When thunar is mounting my external hdd (two ext4 partitions) I cannot write.
[20:31] <kAworu> They're not mounted ro they just seems to have been mounted by root
[20:39] <holstein> !chown | kAworu
[20:40] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive specifically the parts about permissions
[20:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> Does anyone have a firm understanding of the composting features of xfce?
[20:46] <kAworu> holstein: thanks
[20:48] <holstein> Poisoned_Dragon: AFAIK, its software compositing... meaning you dont need special hardware/drivers
[20:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> heh, I should have been more specific from the start. It's not a question about hardware or drivers.
[20:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> I have an issue with running java apps on xfce while composting is on.
[20:50] <holstein> Poisoned_Dragon: just turn it off...
[20:51] <holstein> Poisoned_Dragon: you can try other java versions.. but, yeah, you could run into issues
[20:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ugh... I was hoping that "turn it off" wasn't going to be the only solution. I'm using openjdk 7 jre. it happens in java 6 and 7.
[20:55] <kAworu> holstein: it worked indeed. I did not expect it to work because the /media/myuser/bla directories are created when auto-mounted and deleted when umounted
[20:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> well yea. That's what gvfs-mount does
[20:56] <kAworu> holstein: may I ask which process is responsible for this auto-mounting magic ?
[20:56] <holstein> gvfs i though ^^
[20:58] <kAworu> holstein: That was my first guess too but it seems that all the gvfs process (my god there are so many) are running under myuser
[20:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> yeah, gvfs
[20:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> are we talking about removable drives?
[20:59] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: yes
[20:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can disable auto-mounting in the settings manager, under removable devices
[21:00] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: thanks for the info, but I am not trying to prevent auto mounting
[21:00] <kAworu> I'm just trying to understand.
[21:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, ok. Just wanted to know how it worked.
[21:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> well, outside of the system doing it for me, I can use gvfs-mount, in terminal to manually add and remove mounts.
[21:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> Less messy than making a directory and using mount.
[21:01] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: my original problem is already solved (thank to holstein's hint about chown), however the solution surprise me so I'm trying to understand.
[21:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> chown? doesn't that change ownerships?
[21:02] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: yes. It seems that if you chown a directory auto-mounted by gvfs, say /media/myuser/usbdrive0 it will be preserved accross mounts / reboot
[21:03] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon: although the directory itself will be removed when umounted.
[21:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> I think the runlevel of gvfs allows it to make changes regardless of permissions.
[21:04] <kAworu> (I come from FreeBSD and those magic tricks make me curious ;)
[21:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> The closest experience I have to some level of BSD is Mac OSX. By that point, you rarely get to see what's behind the gui.
[21:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> ok, holstein. Here's the specifics to my problem. It seems that java apps, that place a notification icon in the notifications tray, create a graphical glitch in the upper left hand corner of the screen, while composting is enabled.
[21:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> java apps that don't use the notification tray, don't exhibit this kind of graphical behavior.
[21:23] <kAworu> Poisoned_Dragon, holstein: alright, if you care here is how the auto-mount magic works:
[21:24] <kAworu> thunar use gvfs-mount, which use udevd through DBUS
[21:24] <kAworu> udisksd sorry, not udevd.
[23:26] <rmarker> is there a way to play Blu-Ray with Xubuntu?
[23:27] <SunStar> install the non-free codecs
[23:27] <SunStar> from software center
[23:35] <rmarker> can't find it
[23:52] <packetfrog> SunStar, arent blueray more complicated then that?
[23:55] <peyam> Hi
[23:55] <peyam> I want to change the color of the menu bar?
[23:55] <peyam> whre the icon and time is located
[23:55] <peyam> I want it to be black
[23:55] <peyam> How do I change the color?
[23:56] <packetfrog> Right click on it
[23:56] <packetfrog> find the properties menu, appearance.. yadda   its in there
[23:56] <packetfrog> im on windows atm so cant check it
[23:56] <peyam> appreace?
[23:57] <peyam> whre
[23:57] <packetfrog> one sec
[23:57] <peyam> I founf it
[23:58] <packetfrog> You can also access panel preferences by right clicking on your panel and going to Panel Settings. If you right click on space occupied by a panel plugin, you can access panel preferences by going to Panel → Panel Preferences....
[23:58] <packetfrog> oic
[23:58] <peyam> yes
[23:58] <peyam> I fixed it
[23:58] <packetfrog> Then appearance  and color or transparent  yadda
[23:58] <peyam> yes yes
[23:58] <peyam> I found it :)
[23:58]  * packetfrog claps
[23:58] <packetfrog> I knew you could do it, I had faith in you my friend.
[23:59] <peyam> And Im thanksfull :)


[14:55] <SuperMatt> ok, I'm ready for my close-up
[14:58] <dholbach> ^ jcastro, are you going to host the google help out session?
[14:59] <jcastro> is that now?
[14:59] <jcastro> yeah, I can
[14:59] <SuperMatt> in a minute, yes
[14:59] <jcastro> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpih1ri45sfkdmd3g8hs8j5c?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:01] <dholbach> balloons, are you doing the papercuts session?
[15:01] <dholbach> or you jono? ^
[15:01] <balloons> dholbach, yes, got everything up and running already
[15:01] <dholbach> woohoo
[15:01]  * dholbach hugs you all
[15:01]  * dholbach goes off to appdev-1
[15:02] <balloons> who's doing comm 2 however?
[15:02] <balloons> ohh, d'oh, scrollback
[15:02] <popey> jcastro: SuperMatt #ubuntu-uds-community-2
[16:45] <elfy> popey: see - I'm not a figment of my own imagination ;)
[16:47] <popey> ☻
[17:36] <balloons> dholbach, you plan to do limiting surveillance or jono or me?
[17:42] <dholbach> balloons, I can do it
[18:23] <jcastro> dholbach, I'll be your server rep for the summary
[18:23] <dholbach> jono, ^
[18:28] <jono> thanks jcastro
[19:12] <pleia2> jcastro: oh hey, should announce discourse to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(it's fully modded list, but I can let your msg through)
[19:13] <jcastro> pleia2, yeah I've just been smoked with sessions all day
[19:13] <jcastro> week