[12:01] <geoaxis> BleSS:  i am sorry i cant understand your question ...you want to install some thing which is no longer supported or is not in ubuntu packaging
[12:01] <BleSS> geoaxis: it's for ubuntu server, I've that install nginx from source, and I thinked that in backports could have a version more new
[12:01] <hlverstoep> hereiam2345: so you mean the wallpapers, wait a moment
[12:01] <belgarath__> atxatx    whats your goal with Samba?   few or many users?  home/work?
[12:01] <hereiam2345> hlverstoep: yeah.
[12:02] <CaptainMorgan> how goes the battle?
[12:02] <geoaxis> BleSS: well you would have to look up the version
[12:02] <geoaxis> but if you installed it from source its possible the going to another version may not be CLEAN
[12:03] <BleSS> geoaxis: yes, but then would be possible install only a determined package?
[12:03] <SimonFoster> Can I surpress all these "Quit" "Join" msgs?
[12:03] <BleSS> from backports
[12:03] <silent_> where do I burn .iso images in gnomebaker?
[12:03] <CheshireViking> hereiam2345, try /usr/share/backgrounds
[12:03] <SimonFoster> Anyone?
[12:03] <nut543> Windows is not booting. I think this is because the VBR of windows is damaged/deleted(how do i check this btw?). How can I restore the VBR without destroying the MBR which grub is installed to(thus not being able to boot linux)?
[12:03] <magnetron> SimonFoster: yes. use the /ignore command for that. for info on how, use /help ignore
[12:04] <hereiam2345> CheshireViking: thanks.... ooh! I found some hidden ones!
[12:04] <atxatx> belgarath__: home desktop. I'm trying to share a directory within my user directory (/home/mark/) with a windows VM. I want read/write access.
[12:04] <magnetron> SimonFoster: so i have heard
[12:04] <brandon83> good evening gents
[12:04] <SimonFoster> /ignore
[12:04] <SimonFoster> Nope
[12:04] <belgarath__> atxatx  ok
[12:04] <belgarath__> atxatx do you use ubuntu server or desktop?
[12:05] <atxatx> belgarath__ desktop
[12:05] <magnetron> SimonFoster: not in a channel
[12:05] <levon> im trying to take a screen shot
[12:05] <levon> sleep 5 import root /home/levon/Capture.jpg
[12:05] <nunomp> hi
[12:06] <levon> is this the command
[12:06] <brandon83> hi
[12:06] <belgarath__> ok..  I am not an expert on the desktop.... but I found a trick to make it work...
[12:06] <SimonFoster> Where?
[12:06] <fdoving> levon: try to add a semicolon after the 5.
[12:06] <nunomp> is my first time in here
[12:06] <levon> aww okay
[12:06] <magnetron> levon: i just hit print screen key
[12:07] <silent_> what cd burning utility for gnome will allow burning of .iso images?
[12:07] <magnetron> SimonFoster: i have window for the network
[12:07] <hlverstoep> silent_: right click on an iso, then click "burn"
[12:07] <belgarath__> atxatx   You select the folder you want to share and in the contextmenu choose share folder and then choose SMB and uncheck read only
[12:07] <silent_> ah
[12:07] <magnetron> silent_: nautilus can do it. right click and it will be in the menu
[12:07] <SimonFoster> i'm on Gaim and not finding it terribl straightforward
[12:08] <magnetron> SimonFoster: on gaim? then you probably cannot do it
[12:08] <SimonFoster> xchat better?
[12:08] <carl> What is the command to show version number for a ubuntu system?
[12:08] <SimonFoster> uname -a
[12:08] <carl> Ubuntu version.
[12:08] <noge1> hey can someone tell me with what command in can see my ip internal ipadress??
[12:09] <magnetron> SimonFoster: i can recommend xchat-gnome, but a lot of people use the CL irssi
[12:09] <levon> oh aright this is good magnetron im in fvwm so i needed to make a command line for that
[12:09] <hlverstoep> noge1: ifconfig
[12:09] <levon> now its gravy
[12:09] <carl> SimonFoster: Ubuntu version not kernel version.
[12:09] <hlverstoep> noge1: probably in eth0 or eth1
[12:09] <BigToe7000> how do I use ftp in terminal to cd to a directory with spaces in
[12:09] <BigToe7000> for example, if I'm in /new/
[12:09] <BigToe7000> and i want to cd to /new/new files
[12:10] <BigToe7000> I type cd new files and it goes no directory D:
[12:10] <homanj> BigToe7000: i think you put a '\' for the space
[12:10] <Dr_J> does "new files" work?
[12:10] <magnetron> BigToe7000: add a \ in front of the space
[12:10] <BigToe7000> thanks magnetron
[12:10] <belgarath__> atxatx   Sorry it dont work :(
[12:11] <carl> I have a system here that shows only squares, (as opposed to recognizable letter characters), on the desktop.
[12:11] <atxatx> belgarath__ can you repeat i was messing with the /ignore command, messing up that is
[12:11] <carl> Any clues as to how to fix a problem like this?
[12:11] <belgarath__> atxatx   Sorry it dont work ... no write permission :(
[12:12] <belgarath__> atxatx...  it works if you change the permission of the shared folder!
[12:12] <psi-> carl: check if you have xfonts-*-transcoded installed
[12:13] <xelon> Hi, I'm searching for a program that holds program icons at the bottom of the desktop. It's like panel. I see almost all screenshots of the gnome. It's like this http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/26448-1.jpg   . But when the mouse comes over it, the icons are getting bigger. I can't find the name of it. Anyone knows?
[12:13] <Mischa> hi there, again
[12:13] <manu_> hola
[12:13] <manu_> no puedo apagar
[12:13] <Mischa> I have a simple question, but it's been too long ago that i've done it
[12:13] <hlverstoep> xelon: in the package gdesklets there is such a bar
[12:13] <hlverstoep> xelon: one of the desklets
[12:13] <xelon> hlverstoep: thanks
[12:14] <DannyD> hello Mischa ;)
[12:14] <Mischa> I'm looking to correct a little mount error
[12:14] <silent_> damn Fiesty is Fiesty
[12:14] <Mischa> but I don't remember where the file is I need to change
[12:14] <belgarath__> atxatx   if you change permission for group and others to read-write on your shared folder it works...
[12:16] <Alarifes> sd
[12:16] <atxatx> belgarath__ what about using a [homes]  share with valid users = %s
[12:18] <belgarath__> atxatx  It should also work.. you always got write permission to your home folder :)
[12:18] <nexous> How do I allow writing/editing of files in samba. The files are located on linux, I need to edit them on Windows, They are 2 different PCs.
[12:18] <z3r0ph3wl> i have small problem... i apply new theme and gtk++2 (windows border and controls theme) and it works nice but then i run application who needs roots rights window look without gtk++ engine...looks really ugly.how i could fix it?
[12:18] <jin> !nvidia
[12:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:18] <Pelo> nexous,  try asking in #samba
[12:19] <nexous> Pelo:  Thanks
[12:19] <atxatx> belgarath__ ok i'll test that out now. I was just confused how samba deals with users of the linux system vs. users trying to login from windows network
[12:19] <edward> how do i edit xorg.conf? I tried "sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it says It can't find it
[12:19] <Dougwiser> heh
[12:19] <sacater> How can I find out if my DVD-ROM drive is CD writeable, is there a command?
[12:19] <belgarath__> atxatx Yes it is a bit tricky!  esp. smbpassw thing!
[12:19] <Pelo> z3r0ph3wl,  thats because theming is per user, and technicaly  root is another user
[12:19] <Dougwiser> hheheh]
[12:20] <Pelo> z3r0ph3wl,  you'd have to run the theme manager as root
[12:20] <psi-> edward: 'sudo gedit /etc..'
[12:20] <sacater> its unlabelled and I dont have the manual
[12:20] <edward> psi-,  thanks
[12:20] <mirak> how can I copy only the files starting with a dot ? cp .* copy everything
[12:20] <sacater> what is the default picture-viewer in Ubuntu 7.04
[12:20] <atxatx> belgarath__ how many entries do you get when you type sudo pdbedit -L
[12:20] <edward> psi-, another question, i'm trying to change my resolution, which line do I need to edit? There's about 5 with resolution options in them
[12:21] <FFighter> guys, is there a "Advanced File Organizer"-like application for Linux/GTK ?
[12:21] <Pelo> sacater,  if it is a dvd "rom" it is read only,   check on the front it  dvd-rw are burners
[12:21] <FFighter> something I could use to catalog my DVDs
[12:21] <jin> FFighter: that would be console
[12:21] <sacater> Pelo: okies
[12:21] <z3r0ph3wl> Pelo,  yes but how i should run it if root user is hidden in my login page?
[12:21] <mirak> how can I copy only the files starting with a dot ? cp .* copy everything
[12:21] <belgarath__> atxatx about 30
[12:21] <anathematic> what's the command to change the permissions on a folder?
[12:21] <jin> anathematic: chmod
[12:21] <sacater> anathematic: chmod
[12:21] <psi-> edward: they are each for one bit-depth, usually 16 or 24 one
[12:21] <sacater> anathematic: eg, chmod 644 test.txt
[12:22] <FFighter> jin: Console ?
[12:22] <Pelo> z3r0ph3wl, start the theme manager from the command line with sudo
[12:22] <jin> FFighter: terminal
[12:22] <Mischa> how do I manually mount a drive ubuntu didn't recognize?
[12:22] <sacater> what is the default picture-viewer in Ubuntu 7.04
[12:22] <jin> FFighter: in other words, I mean command line
[12:22] <FFighter> jin: How could I use the terminal do catalog my DVD collection ?
[12:22] <sacater> Mischa: sudo mount /dev/#item/ /mnt
[12:22] <jin> FFighter: by organizing them in proper directories
[12:22] <belgarath__> atxatx  this is new to me :)  I am a old smb.conf guy!
[12:23] <Pelo> Mischa,  find the devtree of thedrive and    sudo mount /dev/???  /mount/point   , make amount point first
[12:23] <FFighter> jin:  you mean copy them ? I don't have that much space...
[12:23] <atxatx> belgarath__ ok is that normal? looks like a security risk. also what do you have for passdb backend in your smb.conf
[12:23] <mirak> how can I copy only the files starting with a dot ? cp .* copy everything
[12:23] <silent_> belgarath__, swat is nice for smb.conf configuration
[12:23] <z3r0ph3wl> Pelo, thanks but one more stupid question, but how the name of theme manager in command line?
[12:24] <psi-> z3r0ph3wl: gnome-theme-manager
[12:24] <z3r0ph3wl> psi-, thanks
[12:24] <Pelo> z3r0ph3wl,  ricthclick the theme manager icon in  system prefs,  put on desktop,  ricthglick the new desktop icon and check in properties
[12:24] <FFighter> So, no "Advanced File Organizer"-like app for Linux ?
[12:24] <FFighter> It seems I'll have to try running it under WINE
[12:25] <omha> does anyone know a good PHP project?
[12:25] <Pelo> FFighter, there might be one we just donT' know it ,   google for one
[12:25] <z3r0ph3wl> Pelo, thanks
[12:25] <mEck0> which packets do I need to develop GTK+ 2.0 apps? I have done an easy helloworld app, but the compiler can't find gtk.h etc.
[12:25] <belgarath__> atxatx    I dont know about securityrisk...  but I agree ... it looks like a security hole
[12:26] <scm> exit
[12:26] <kenji> can some one help me with my samsung video camera'
[12:26] <kenji> ?
[12:26] <psi-> mEck0: libgtk2.0-dev + -doc
[12:26] <mEck0> psi-: thx
[12:26] <Michu_z> hi folks
[12:26] <Pelo> kenji, search the forum for your model, see if anyone left any instructions
[12:26] <kenji> no module found
[12:27] <kenji> I searched but no matches
[12:27] <Michu_z> anyone from PL?
[12:27] <sacater> whoops
[12:27] <sacater> wrong channel
[12:27] <sacater> sorry
[12:27] <Michu_z> ;]
[12:27] <Michu_z> cya
[12:27] <Pelo> kenji, make it more general , video camera , or cam corder or stuff like that
[12:28] <kenji> naaa pelo
[12:28] <kenji> look at this http://rafb.net/p/qp0L2m70.html
[12:28] <belgarath__> atxatx    On my server I use Slakware and samba stores the password in separate file like the passw file
[12:28] <Do``> Could someone recommend a video encoder software for me that i can use to _easily_ convert mkv files to dvd video?
[12:28] <Consigliere> part
[12:29] <mooey> howdy. what is the difference between -generic and -386 kernels?
[12:29] <z3r0ph3wl> now its says: unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-deamon'. Without the Gnome settings manager running some preferences may not take effect. :(
[12:29] <carl> How does one determine filesystem type?
[12:29] <atxatx> belgarath__ but in your smb.conf, what's there for "passdb backend"
[12:29] <Pelo> kenji, is this a cam corder or a webcam ?
[12:30] <LjL> !info volumeid > carl
[12:30] <LjL> !generic > mooey    (mooey, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:30] <ANON12345> I have a problem with SMB, the other users on my network are trying to access my shared folders, and for some reason, a password is needed, so i tried the password i use to log-in to my accound on Ubuntu, and that does not work.
[12:31] <belgarath__> atxatx  dont have a passdb backend.  but hey this is Slak :-)
[12:31] <carl>  LjL> !info volumeid > carl?
[12:31] <jin> !mp3
[12:31] <Laney> np:
[12:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:31] <belgarath__> atxatx.. only a smb passwd file
[12:31] <SUDOBash2> lol carl
[12:31] <LjL> carl, you've got a private message from Ubotu. IRC supports private messages.
[12:31] <LjL> !info volumeid
[12:31] <ubotu> volumeid: volume identification tool. In component main, is important. Version 108-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 68 kB, installed size 120 kB
[12:31] <SUDOBash2> !volumeid
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volumeid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <kenji> its a cam corde Pelo
[12:32] <atxatx> belgarath__ i've got "passdb backend = tdbsam"
[12:32] <ANON12345> !investigate | ANON12345
[12:32] <Pelo> kenji,  you're on your own then I haven'T got a clue
[12:32] <kenji> and kino don't detect it but thats because I don't have a /dev/dv1394/0
[12:32] <kenji> whats a clue?
[12:33] <belgarath__> atxatx   I also got it on my desktop pc (ubuntu)
[12:33] <Pelo> kenji, I don' thave any idea on how to help you
[12:33] <livingdaylight> hi
[12:33] <kenji> ok ;)
[12:33] <mEck0> I have now installed libgtk2.0-dev but still got a lot of errors (because the compiler can't find gtk.h), helloWorld.cpp:1:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[12:33] <livingdaylight> Q: anyone know what a .daa format is?
[12:33] <z3r0ph3wl> now its says: unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-deamon'. Without the Gnome settings manager running some preferences may not take effect. :(
[12:33] <livingdaylight> !daa
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <belgarath__> atxatx   I also got it on my desktop pc (ubuntu)
[12:34] <Pelo> livingdaylight, google
[12:34] <PMantis> I just upgraded my server to 7.04 (from 6.10)... Server only boots in recovery mode now... regular causes Grub to give:   Error 15: File Not Found
[12:34] <kenji> can some one help me with my samsung video cam?
[12:35] <hajhouse> PMantis: try running update-grub
[12:35] <carl> I'm running apt-get now and cannot install an additional application, but need to know what filesystem is beeing used for root filesystem on this machine, (in order to continue dist-upgrade proceedure).
[12:35] <faileas> livingdaylight: its a CD image format. i think  propetry to a single programme
[12:35] <carl> What was default FS for 6.06?
[12:35] <zoexii> hi hi, I am using ubuntu live cd to help a friend who has forgotten his windows XP password...  I know that there is a Linux based live cd for resetting windows passwords, but I cannot burn it because the CD rom drive is occupied (by the ubuntu CD).  Is there a howto to do this somewhere?
[12:35] <hajhouse> PMantis: the error might mean that you have a static grub entry that specifies a vmlinuz image that isn't there anymore
[12:36] <LjL> carl: ext3, and it still is.
[12:36] <atxatx> belgarath__ well there's a lot of settings here, I just don't want to have security problems. I'm going to try the [users]  share in smb.conf and see if that's enough
[12:36] <livingdaylight> faileas, don't quite understand you. do you know how to play it?
[12:36] <carl> What was default filesystem type for ubuntu 6.06?  ext3?
[12:36] <LjL> carl: no
[12:36] <livingdaylight> faileas, are you saying i'd need to burn it to cd to be able to play it?
[12:37] <carl> ]
[12:37] <PMantis> hajhouse: I ran update-grub, just to get 2.6.20-16-generic to show in menu.lst... so "update-grub" added the lines. The first one fails, the second loads (recovery mode)
[12:37] <faileas> livingdaylight: probably
[12:37] <kenji> can some one help me with my samsung video cam?
[12:37] <p1ls> can someone give me a cool name of file manager?
[12:37] <faileas> or convert it somehow
[12:37] <carl> What was the default filesystem for Ubuntu6.06?
[12:37] <LjL> carl: e, x, t, 3
[12:37] <belgarath__> atxatx   Yep if you set this up for your home lan you can easy restrict users with this:   hosts allow = 192.168.1. 127.
[12:37] <carl> How can I tell what the filesystem is?  (for the root fs)
[12:38] <p1ls> can someone give me a cool name of file manager?
[12:38] <kenji> can some one help me with my samsung video cam?
[12:38] <carl>  LjL: Ok, thanks
[12:38] <LjL> carl: use volumeid
[12:38] <rust3d> i need help getting my 8800 gtx working with the nvidia-glx drivers, and getting my ethernet adapter working, the sky2 driver keeps dying and giving me rx errors
[12:38] <LjL> do you listen, or just ask and expect answers to go direct to your brain carl?
[12:38] <PMantis> hajhouse: BTW, After the upgrade 2.6.20 wasn't installed... I had to install it myself (strange!)
[12:38] <dsnyders>  /join #grub
[12:39] <p1ls> can someone give me a cool name of file manager?
[12:39] <atxatx> belgarath__ why 127?
[12:39] <carl> "Package configuration"  is asking what "MD arrays needed for the root filesystem:" ??
[12:39] <LjL> !good | p1ls
[12:39] <ubotu> p1ls: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:39] <j1tters> p1s what are you talking about? a cool name?
[12:39] <carl> The default answer is "all"
[12:39] <carl> ?
[12:40] <belgarath__> atxatx  good question... !
[12:40] <rust3d> i need help getting my 8800 gtx working with the nvidia-glx drivers, and getting my ethernet adapter working, the sky2 driver keeps dying and giving me rx errors
[12:40] <carl> Should I go with default, or?
[12:40] <kenji> can some one help me with my samsung video cam?
[12:40] <SUDOBash2> default
[12:40] <SUDOBash2> try that and if it doesnt work tell us
[12:40] <carl> SUDOBash2: was that for me?
[12:40] <JM_> gibts hir auch nen deutschen???
[12:40] <kenji> can some one help me with my samsung video cam?
[12:41] <atxatx> i've got hosts allow = <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[12:41] <SUDOBash2> yes carl
[12:41] <atxatx> belgarath__ i've got hosts allow = <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[12:41] <rust3d> nobody knows how to help me?
[12:42] <belgarath__> atxatx   perfect
[12:42] <j1tters> !nvidia
[12:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:42] <j1tters> check that link rust3d
[12:42] <atxatx> belgarath__ no clue what 0/24 means i just read it somewhere
[12:43] <crimsun> does resolvconf work decently with network-manager in feisty?
[12:43] <j1tters> 0/24 means your letting the whole subnet through
[12:43] <belgarath__> atxatx   I belive it is something with the netmask <IP_ADDRESS> thing
[12:43] <p1ls> what would be the command to unpack tar.bz2?
[12:43] <crimsun> p1ls: tar xjf
[12:43] <belgarath__> atxatx   not sure about it :)
[12:43] <jin> can any one tell me where to put the hor/vert sync in xorg.conf? and what the syntax is??
[12:43] <crimsun> p1ls: tar's intelligent, however - just use tar xf
[12:43] <SUDOBash2> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 means that your letting the whole subnet through>?
[12:43] <belgarath__> atxatx   this command rescrict users from other networks to access your samba-server
[12:44] <jamster545> hey i just installed kubuntu (for some reason when i downloaded xubuntu and ubuntu and put them on a disc it wouldnt open) but i would like to learn how to develop ubuntu and how to develop on it
[12:44] <rust3d> thanks j1tters
[12:44] <atxatx> belgarath__ yeah i understand that. I guess the 0/24 somehow corresponds to 0 - 255
[12:44] <PurpZeY> !info gtkcapturemyscreen
[12:44] <j1tters> no prob rust3d.
[12:44] <ubotu> Package gtkcapturemyscreen does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:45] <belgarath__> atxatx   TCP/IP handbook  :-)
[12:45] <joebob777as7> hey my sound magically stopped working on my laptop... can someone help?
[12:45] <silent_> how would one uninstall a package, and all the packages it installed as dependencies, so long as they are not needed by any other package?
[12:45] <atxatx> belgarath__ right...
[12:45] <vraa> joebob777as7: have you tried to restart?
[12:45] <joebob777as7> yes vraa twice
[12:45] <PurpZeY> joebob777as7: Have you looked at the Alsa mixer?
[12:46] <silent_> nickspohn??
[12:46] <joebob777as7> uhh... i'm looking at the sound preferences now... what's the alsa mixer PurpZeY
[12:46] <belgarath__> atxatx   Good luck with samba!   need to go offline! :)
[12:47] <atxatx> belgarath__ thanks
[12:47] <Mischa> okay something's a bit odd here... ubuntu mounted hdb5 and hdb6 as being the same drive
[12:47] <PurpZeY> joebob777as7: It's part of the whole ALSA sound thing....I have heard people who have that problem you have and that is usually the first step...I believe there is a command to pull it up.
[12:47] <h3x> hello.. can someone help me out? i want ubuntu to load in verbose (text) mode only.. how do I do that?
[12:47] <belgarath__> atxatx   did not do very much but sometimes problems solves bythemself if you talk with someone!
[12:47] <rust3d> j1tters, the automatic driver chooser is choosing the wrong driver, i need the 97xx driver (nvidia-glx-new) and it is trying to use nvidia-glx
[12:48] <h3x> with exception to the login.. that can be graphical
[12:48] <At0mic_PC> How would I record a sound from a DVD or if I have a DVD that I ripped on my computer record the sound from that?
[12:48] <Mischa> so instead of mounting two partitions to two points, it mounts the same parition twice.... anyone know how to fix that?
[12:48] <LjL> rust3d: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common might help
[12:48] <bartosz> hey
[12:48] <joebob777as7> At0mic_PC, you plug your headphone out to your casette player and press the record button
[12:48] <bartosz> can anyone tell me how to install tcl ?????
[12:48] <bartosz> please!
[12:49] <LjL> bartosz:  sudo apt-get install tcl8.4
[12:49] <LjL> !software > bartosz    (bartosz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:49] <At0mic_PC> joebob777as7: I mean digital to digital.
[12:49] <bartosz> thank you!
[12:49] <At0mic_PC> Make a small sound sample from the audio of a movie.
[12:49] <ANON12345> how do i share my printer on my network?
[12:49] <joebob777as7> At0mic_PC, i konw i was kidding... do a search for sound recording progs i'm sure you can set the sound input from most
[12:49] <nomasteryoda> At0mic_PC, you would use mencoder or mplayer
[12:49] <j1tters> rust3d ah. i havnt installed new yet. not quite sure.
[12:50] <PMantis> After upgrade to 7.04, had to manaully run update-grub, now server won't boot in anything but a "recovery mode". Normal boot causes Error 15: File Not Found
[12:50] <At0mic_PC> joebob777as7: nomasteryoda Ok
[12:50] <Rdrigo`> uit
[12:50] <silent_> is there any compatibility layer/emulation that is better than wine (free) ?
[12:50] <rust3d> has anyone installed nvidia-glx-new
[12:50] <silent_> I have
[12:50] <jin> hi, I think the refreshrate of my monitor is set wrong. and it's not listed in the manual of the monitor. It's a 19 inch LCD at 1280x1024. Can some one help me with this?
[12:50] <Oxy-Cotton> Arex: Do you know much about ubuntu?
[12:50] <mjr> silent_, no
[12:50] <joebob777as7> PurpZeY, have any idea what i could search for to find an answer to my problem
[12:51] <bartosz> where is the tcl file located ?
[12:51] <bartosz> i mean folder....
[12:51] <joebob777as7> can someone help me troubleshoot my sound issue?
[12:51] <silent_> mjr, how much does cedega cost?
[12:51] <Nrbelex> Does anyone know anything about Kannel or a good place to ask? #Kannel in empty
[12:51] <mjr> silent_, ask them
[12:51] <Arex> Oxy-cotton, not a load. And I'm not afraid to say so either.
[12:51] <Oxy-Cotton> oh
[12:51] <ANON12345> !kannel | Nrbelex
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kannel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <At0mic_PC> nomasteryoda: You wouldn't by any change know of a tutorial for mencoder that does this do you?
[12:51] <h3xagram> hello.. can someone help me out? i want ubuntu to load in verbose (text) mode only.. how do I do that?
[12:51] <h3xagram> with exception to the login.. that can be graphical
[12:51] <At0mic_PC> change=chance
[12:52] <joebob777as7> At0mic_PC, man mencoder
[12:52] <bartosz> LjL: where  is the tcl folder ?
[12:52] <dr_willis> h3xagram,  disable the gdm or kdm login manager from starting.
[12:52] <At0mic_PC> Awesome
[12:52] <h3xagram> dr_willis, how do i do that
[12:52] <carl>  Couldn't find package xfonts-*-transcoded
[12:52] <dr_willis> h3xagram,  you also may want to disable the  various gfx addons when booting. framebuffer,  and fancy loading screen
[12:52] <Evil_Ed> Hello
[12:52] <dr_willis> !init
[12:52] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:52] <str4> sup?
[12:52] <joebob777as7> i need some help with my sound
[12:53] <h3xagram> dr_willis: thats exactly what i want to disable... the screen where it says ubuntu and it shows the progress bar
[12:53] <bartosz> dr_willis: where are TLC scripts located?
[12:53] <str4> I'll think about it
[12:53] <Evil_Ed> confidential
[12:53] <dr_willis> h3xagram,  theres proberly some init.d manager tools you can install - or manually learn to edit the  runlevel scripts
[12:53] <ANON12345> how to i share a printer on my LAN (Local Area Network)?
[12:53] <dr_willis> h3xagram,  use the 'nofb' and 'nosplash' optuions to grub :)
[12:53] <joebob777as7> can anyone here help me with my sound issue? it stopped working all of the sudden on my laptop
[12:54] <rust3d> im getting a new error now, from the xorg.0.log ->  (EE) Failed to load module "wf" (module does not exist,0) - (EE) NVIDIA(0):  Need libwfb but wfbScreenInit not found
[12:54] <h3xagram> dr_willis: you mean add nofb and nosplash to menu.lst?
[12:54] <dr_willis> h3xagram,  Bingo.
[12:54] <dr_willis> # defoptions=nosplash nofb
[12:54] <dr_willis> is what i use
[12:54] <dr_willis> then rerun grub-install
[12:54] <Oxy-Cotton> I need to speak to mark shuttleworth
[12:54] <Oxy-Cotton> Is he in here?
[12:54] <Oxy-Cotton> Or is he in space
[12:54] <carl> Someone told me to  have xfonts-*-transcoded installed
[12:55] <joebob777as7> Oxy-Cotton, me too! i'd love to ask him about my sound issue!!!
[12:55] <Oxy-Cotton> lol
[12:55] <dr_willis> id ask him if he had a Daughter.... about my age.. :)
[12:55] <Oxy-Cotton> lol
[12:55] <otero1> whats a better video player for ubuntu.. VLC or mplayer?
[12:55] <Laris> that's a secret
[12:55] <joebob777as7> otero1, mplayer
[12:56] <DannyD> i like vlc
[12:56] <DannyD> and mplayer
[12:56] <DannyD> to be honoust
[12:56] <h3xagram> brb
[12:56] <joebob777as7> can anyone here help me with my sound issue? it stopped working all of the sudden on my laptop
[12:56] <otero1> VLC is playing a little odd
[12:56] <joebob777as7> otero1, well you should probably have more than 8mb of ram
[12:56] <DannyD> joebob777as7: lspci ?
[12:57] <joebob777as7> DannyD, what do you mean? lspci?
[12:57] <DannyD> in terminal
[12:57] <DannyD> type it and tell me what it says with sound
[12:58] <joebob777as7> DannyD, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[12:58] <Rodel> What is happening here "checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found  configure: error: could not find Python headers" ?
[12:58] <Mischa> what do I do if two partitions were given the same UUID?
[12:58] <Mischa> it's mismounting a partition because of it
[12:58] <DannyD> joebob777as7: alsamixer?
[12:58] <Nrbelex> Can Squid be used for as a server proxy for WAP on cell phones?
[12:58] <DannyD> not per accident muted or something
[12:58] <carl> I have squares instead of letter characters on the desktop. Someone told me I needed to make sure I had "xfonts-*-transcoded" installed, so did "sudo apt-get install xfonts-+-transcoded" but got error:
[12:58] <carl> E: Couldn't find package xfonts-*-transcoded
[12:59] <dr_willis> give it the right package name
[12:59] <dr_willis> they use * as a wildcard for an example :)
[12:59] <crimsun> carl: we only ship xfonts-{75,100}dpi-transcoded
[12:59] <dr_willis> !find xfonts
[12:59] <ubotu> Found: ttf-arphic-bkai00mp, ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp, ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp, ttf-arphic-gkai00mp, ttf-arphic-ukai (and 81 others)
[12:59] <joebob777as7> DannyD, master is at 100 card is hda intel chip is analog devices ad1981
[12:59] <PMantis> Can someone please help diagnose my boot issues? (Grub error after upgrade) http://pastebin.ca/514845
[12:59] <Rodel> carl: type apt-cache search xfont
[12:59] <carl> dr_willis: what its the correct package name?
[01:00] <DannyD> joebob777as7: strange
[01:00] <dr_willis> carl,  id say  look with apt-cache search and see what looks right. I wonder how it broke in the first place.
[01:00] <DannyD> and it happened al off a sudden?
[01:00] <dr_willis> !find transcoded
[01:00] <ubotu> Found: xfonts-100dpi-transcoded, xfonts-75dpi-transcoded
[01:00] <PurpZeY> How can I get a list of all of the process running on my system?
[01:00] <usser> PurpZeY: top
[01:00] <Mischa> question: can I in fstab use the old /dev/hd** notation instead of UUID, to identify a partition to mount?
[01:00] <usser> PurpZeY: or ps -Al
[01:00] <dr_willis> PurpZeY,  'ps ax' (or i  like htop)
[01:00] <crimsun> Mischa: yes
[01:00] <DannyD>  joebob777as7 what does System>Preferences>Sound tell ya
[01:01] <underguiz> how ubuntu does cpu frequency scaling?
[01:01] <Rodel> What is happening here "checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found  configure: error: could not find Python headers" ?
[01:01] <crimsun> Rodel: install python-all-dev
[01:01] <Rodel> crimsun: alright :)
[01:01] <crimsun> Rodel: you may also find python-support and/or python-central useful.
[01:01] <carl> xfonts-75dpi ?
[01:02] <joebob777as7> DannyD, i know! when i try to test in sound preferences i get audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not negotiate format
[01:02] <Mischa> nice
[01:02] <PurpZeY> dr_willis: Once I see the list, I have two processes I want to kill -- my FireFox won't start, tells me there are processes running I have to end...I see to /bin/firefox, on the list, just use that code with killx -9 #### ?
[01:02] <DannyD> well,then ya lost me,sry m8
[01:02] <crimsun> PurpZeY: you'd want to `pkill firefox-bin`
[01:02] <DannyD> lsmod maybe?
[01:02] <joebob777as7> PMantis, try changing ro to rw
[01:03] <PurpZeY> crimsun: That....Is pkill for process kill for applications?
[01:03] <joebob777as7> dannyd you were my only hope! well one more thing i was trying to play a game and it tells me that Could not initialize sound, reason: Could not open sound device
[01:03] <underguiz> how ubuntu does cpu frequency scaling?  my laptop is running too hot for my taste
[01:03] <PurpZeY> crimsun: Thank you.
[01:03] <crimsun> PurpZeY: looks up processes based on name (by default)
[01:03] <askand> Hi! I wonder this:
[01:03] <askand> where do installed GDM themes go? and What is the least systemrequiring "desklet" program?
[01:04] <_spi_> hi does anyone can tell me about IT news-site like digg.com ?
[01:04] <joebob777as7> underguiz, well stop licking it!
[01:04] <PurpZeY> underguiz: I thought I read that it did....but I'm far from a guru.
[01:04] <DannyD> joebob777as7: tried turning it off and on again? :)
[01:04] <joebob777as7> DannyD, several times... :(
[01:04] <DannyD> aww
[01:04] <PurpZeY> crimsun: So it's ostensibly the same command, just less the work, if you know what you are looking for?
[01:04] <DannyD> its strange,as it worked before
[01:04] <crimsun> PurpZeY: essentially.
[01:04] <joebob777as7> DannyD, is there a way i could disable sound device and re-enable when in gdm?
[01:04] <ice_9> anyone know any good tutorials about ripping and encoding on linux for dvd ect ...
[01:04] <PurpZeY> crimsun: Thanks..
[01:04] <DannyD> usually its a bit dodgy with sound inmho,i usually modprobe the driver
[01:04] <DannyD> check lsmod
[01:04] <DannyD> tinker with alsamixer
[01:04] <DannyD> and it works again ;P
[01:05] <_spi_> who sta*
[01:05] <underguiz> PurpZeY, it does, but i think it isn't enough
[01:05] <crimsun> joebob777as7: pastebin the output from the following commands in a Terminal: asoundconf list && amixer
[01:05] <PurpZeY> underguiz: Huh?
[01:05] <crimsun> joebob777as7: then tell me the url of the pastebin
[01:05] <askand>  where do installed GDM themes go? and What is the least systemrequiring "desklet" program?
[01:06] <crimsun> askand: how are you installing said themes??
[01:06] <silent_> how are gdm themes installed? I have some sick ones sitting on my desktop not doing anything
[01:06] <crimsun> askand: themes installed using the package manager go into /usr/share/gdm/themes/
[01:06] <askand> crimsun:  im dragging them to the  "loginscreenmanager"
[01:07] <silent_> ahah that's awesome
[01:07] <silent_> @Mischa
[01:07] <DannyD> ;)
[01:07] <joebob777as7> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/514855
[01:08] <crimsun> joebob777as7: are you sure it's not just your PCM levels being set to 20% ?
[01:08] <crimsun> joebob777as7: i.e., try: amixer set 'PCM' 90%
[01:08] <crimsun> joebob777as7: (or use the volume control applet in the upper right corner of your screen)
[01:09] <Clarrisa_2008> hello?
[01:09] <Clarrisa_2008> how do I get xchat to automatically join several channels when I start it up?
[01:10] <joebob777as7> crimsun, i'm positive. I realized it when i went to play geweled... i get Could not initialize sound, reason: Could not open sound device
[01:10] <joebob777as7> and then i tried to play some sound files and notta
[01:10] <_spi_> how can I sort per file size using ls command?
[01:10] <jin> hi
[01:10] <crimsun> joebob777as7: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*
[01:10] <jin> can some one please help me with my monitor
[01:10] <crimsun> joebob777as7: pastebin the output from that command, please
[01:10] <Clarrisa_2008> On my channels to join irc.freenode.net I have: #ubuntu #xubuntu    but it only joins ubuntu
[01:10] <askand> Which is best do you think gdesklet or adesklet?
[01:11] <funky_dennis> 2
[01:11] <jin> omg
[01:11] <joebob777as7> http://pastebin.ca/514858
[01:11] <joebob777as7> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/514858
[01:11] <_spi_> which is the right ls parameters combination to sort by file size?
[01:11] <jin> some one help me with my monitor's refreshrate plz. it's running at 75HZ, it should run at 60hz? right? it's a LCD monitor
[01:12] <PurpZeY> _spi_: ls -s
[01:12] <_spi_> PurpZeY :) ... was so easy.. :)
[01:12] <PurpZeY> _spi_: No worries...
[01:13] <crimsun> joebob777as7: ok, then try this:  kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[01:13] <Logikos> i plan to instal ubuntu server 6.06 to replace my old server, i dont mess much with linux, so there is alot i dont know, i made the old server like 10 years ago... for email it uses exim with vexim to alow me to manage domain email acounts .. without makeing a user for each one, what email server do you recomend i use that has the ability to let me manage<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... etc (hope i'm explaining it clearly) and if possibl
[01:14] <silent_> how do I select gdm themes, I extracted the files to the themes folder, now what?
[01:14] <_spi_> PurpZeY ok, that right is ls -S ;)
[01:14] <augi01> silent_: System -> Administrator -> Login Window.
[01:15] <j1tters> logikos. google postfix and take a look at that. or sendmail. its basically a preference thing. i prefer postfix.
[01:15] <funky_dennis> silent_: you have to drag archives to gdm-setup window
[01:15] <Logikos> j1tters postfix can manage domain catchall's and all that ?
[01:16] <silent_> augi01, how do I go to my menu without restarting x?
[01:16] <j1tters> can do just about anything.  i've run postix servers serving over 200 domains. :)
[01:16] <mau> Is it possible to make KMail only check my inbox when downloading new mail via IMAP?  Right now it checks all of my folders, which takes forever.
[01:16] <joebob777as7> crimsun it didn't work but it let me start my game... thanx that's all i wanted i don't care about sound
[01:17] <augi01> silent_: I don't follow.
[01:17] <crimsun> joebob777as7: remember that you have to adjust the mixer levels after running that command.
[01:17] <PMantis> Would anyone here mind commenting on my server's booting issue? http://pastebin.ca/514845
[01:17] <silent_> how do I get to my login screen without restarting x... do I have to log out?
[01:17] <Rodel> what video formats are supported in Ubuntu?
[01:17] <silent_> Rodel, pretty much everything
[01:17] <MikeStyle> Hi everyone...im trying to install gtk 2.10 but it needs atk 1.9.0...when i try to configure atk i get a message saying glib is not installed or is installed in the wrong place. i know i have glib latest version because i just installed it...any thoughts?
[01:17] <funky_dennis> Rodel: all known
[01:17] <augi01> silent_: That should work, yes.
[01:18] <_spi_> My syslog log files are always big... to big... can I reduce the logging rate?
[01:18] <dr_willis> Rodel,  with the exception of those Porn-malware-codecs :) for one.
[01:18] <augi01> silent_: If not you'll have to restart X.
[01:18] <funky_dennis> MikeStyle: install glib-devel
[01:18] <Oxy-Cotton> I need a server op
[01:18] <jin> hello
[01:18] <TakeOut{u}> _spi_, you could always use something like splunk in order to consolidate your log files
[01:18] <jin> can some one help me with refreshrate? I want it at 60hz not 75hz....
[01:18] <Oxy-Cotton> I need one who cares about the server
[01:19] <dr_willis> try #freenode
[01:19] <anarok> does ubuntu's installer support creating /dev/md/N devices? (software raid0)
[01:19] <PurpZeY> jin: I can't really help you but that sounds like an issue that should be well addressed on the forums.
[01:19] <DannyD> Oxy-Cotton: i care but that doesnt really count i think
[01:19] <mjr> anarok, I don't think the default does; alternate yes
[01:19] <mjr> default = live install
[01:19] <funky_dennis> anarok: yes
[01:19] <MikeStyle> funky_dennis, synaptic doesnt have that package
[01:19] <anarok> so use teh alternate install CD?
[01:19] <anarok> ok
[01:20] <anarok> thanks
[01:20] <AlienX> does anyone know if there is a way to recursively resize images in a directory and rename them by adding "sm" to the end of the filename?
[01:20] <funky_dennis> MikeStyle: you should allow backports
[01:20] <lzhan1> my ubuntu feisty box has been turning off on its own; which logs should I start checking to find out what's going on
[01:20] <dr_willis> AlienX,  some scripting and the use of that imagic stuff I think can do it.
[01:20] <MikeStyle> funky_dennis, where do i allow that option
[01:20] <dr_willis> !find imagic
[01:20] <ubotu> Found: php5-imagick
[01:20] <dr_willis> !find imagick
[01:21] <funky_dennis> MikeStyle: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:21] <AlienX> dr_willis, i was afraid of that. I guess I'll sit down and put a script together. Thanks!
[01:21] <MikeStyle> funky_dennis, do i uncomment something?
[01:21] <_spi_> TakeOut{u} splunk is something like logrotate?
[01:21] <funky_dennis> MikeStyle: just uncomment a proper line
[01:21] <dr_willis> AlienX,  with great power comnes great responiablity.. :) there may be some idiot-frioendly-guis/front ends.. but to each their own.
[01:21] <funky_dennis> MikeStyle: then sudo apt-get update
[01:22] <AlienX> dr_willis, nah, i'll just put something together.
[01:22] <AlienX> GUIs take way too much time
[01:22] <dr_willis> AlienX,  im sure that imagick package has the tools you need. :) i just cant spell it right
[01:23] <MikeStyle> funky_dennis it still cant find the package
[01:23] <MikeStyle> uh oh..
[01:23] <MikeStyle> he's gone
[01:25] <MikeStyle> can anyone else help me
[01:25] <bobsumone>  AH IT WORKS
[01:26] <bobsumone>  haha
[01:26] <bobsumone>  stupid cat5 cables
[01:26] <jin> does any one knows how to find the correct hor/ver refresh rate on windows xp? because it's not listed in the manual
[01:27] <MikeStyle> can anyone else help me plz
[01:27] <MikeStyle> Hi everyone...im trying to install gtk 2.10 but it needs atk 1.9.0...when i try to configure atk i get a message saying glib is not installed or is installed in the wrong place. i know i have glib latest version because i just installed it...
[01:27] <bobsumone>  question, is there a way for me to use ubuntu server to share an internet conection to itself and 2 windows xp (1pro / 1home) machines?
[01:27] <bobsumone>  comcast done pissed me off
[01:27] <crimsun> MikeStyle: you already have GTK+2 2.10 installed if you're running edgy or feisty.
[01:28] <bobsumone>  it wont work w/ routers anymore
[01:28] -[0x90] :#ubuntu- You have 1 new message. Please type /server mail to read it.
[01:28] <_spi_> TakeOut{u} I read about splunk, It's a log analyzer... It seems interesting but ins't it a ubuntu package?
[01:28] <MikeStyle> crimsum , configure: error: GTK+-2.10 is required to compile aurora
[01:29] <[0x90] > /notice MikeStyle You have 1 new message. Please type /server mail to read it.
[01:29] <[0x90] > You have 1 new message. Please type /server mail to read it.
[01:29] <crimsun> MikeStyle: you need to install libgtk2.0-dev
[01:29] <crimsun> well, ok.
[01:29] <[0x90] > lool
[01:30] <bulmer> bobsumone: yes, make your box as the router, have at least two nic cards one towards your dsl and the other to the internal network, oh add a hub or switch in your private network
[01:30] <[0x90] > LOL _spi_
[01:30] <MikeStyle> what was that all about?
[01:30] <bobsumone>  bulmer: ok i got all that stuff
[01:31] <crimsun> MikeStyle: you need to install libgtk2.0-dev
[01:31] <bobsumone>  basically i make one x.x.x.x and one x.x.x.y
[01:31] <linux_probe> so that was the culprit sending junk
[01:31] <bobsumone>  does it matter if its a router or a switch?
[01:31] <bulmer> bobsumone: one has to be in different subnets
[01:31] <bobsumone>  ok
[01:31] <bobsumone>  well
[01:32] <bobsumone>  one will be a 67.x.x.x and one will be 192.168.1.x
[01:32] <MikeStyle> crimsun, thanks!
[01:32] <bobsumone>  that's fine right
[01:32] <bulmer> bobsumone: well whatever you isp assigns to your dsl box..
[01:32] <silent_> best way to take a screenshot in gnome?
[01:32] <bobsumone>  its a cable box, but same difference
[01:32] <bulmer> and on the internal side, any of the non-routable ones
[01:33] <|_ocke> k so i got sound working.. by installing a sblive pci card rather than mess with getting the onboard to work
[01:33] <MikeStyle> crimsun, can i pm you some output after i tried to make install
[01:33] <bulmer> bobsumone: pls respond with a nick..ill miss your responses
[01:33] <bobsumone>  ok
[01:33] <bobsumone>  bulmer: ok
[01:34] <|_ocke> but gnome is too resource hungry, i only have 256 ram, so i installed enlightenment e17 hehehe
[01:34] <bobsumone>  bulmer: so if I have cabel modem to nic (67.x.x.x) then nic (192.x.x.x) to router to pc's right?
[01:34] <bobsumone>  and on the router, the nic on 192.x.x.x will be to WAN port
[01:34] <bobsumone>  then prog the static IP for the inet connection correct?
[01:34] <bulmer> bobsumone: your internal can be the 192.x.x.x and your box itself will be the router..dont add another router internally lest you know what to do
[01:35] <bobsumone>  (just want to double check myself)
[01:35] <crimsun> MikeStyle: please don't. Ask in this channel.
[01:36] <bobsumone>  bulmer: I have an 8 port switch im not using would this be better?
[01:36] <MikeStyle> crimsun it told me Libraries have been installed in:
[01:36] <MikeStyle>    /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines ... didnt give me an error but i cant figure out how to open this app
[01:36] <crimsun> MikeStyle: get rid of your self-{compiled,installed} GTK+2 2.10
[01:36] <AoD> Are there any wine guru's present?  I'm having _all_ kinds of issues.
[01:36] <MikeStyle> crimsun how
[01:38] <jin> does any one here have a 19 inch lcd and is running at 60HZ? if so, can you please give me the values for hor/ver refresh rates? please?
[01:38] <crimsun> MikeStyle: make uninstall, perhaps?
[01:38] <MikeStyle> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[01:38] <Tacroy> I'm using the server install, and for some reason some services I installed over the base install output after Ubuntu gives me a login screen.
[01:38] <Fredle> jin, search the right rates for your monitor, don't blow it up by using othermans rates
[01:39] <jin> Fredle: it is not on the manufactrur website
[01:39] <jin> :(
[01:39] <dsnyders> HI all.  This may be offtopic, but is there a utility (grub?) to boot off of a USB flash drive on older machines?
[01:39] <Fredle> jin, google it, you'll find it, I did it the same way
[01:39] <MikeStyle> crimsun make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[01:39] <Fredle> dsnyders, your bios need to support that
[01:39] <ntz_> hi!
[01:40] <Fredle> Tacroy, does the desktopdisks come with serverinstalls too?
[01:40] <Tacroy> Huh?
[01:40] <Tacroy> No, I downloaded the server disk.
[01:40] <jin> Fredle: I really can't find it..
[01:40] <Tacroy> 'cuz I wanted to build a server, you see.
[01:40] <aubade> Is there any way to have Nautilus not refer to volumes as '390GiB Volume' and just go by the name of the mounting point or device name?
[01:40] <Tacroy> Seemed logical at the time.
[01:40] <Fredle> Tacroy, yeah, i was geeting zo far ^^
[01:42] <ntz_> anyone tried ubuntu with a tv tuner card?
[01:42] <Fredle> we use suse for most of our servers, next to debian.  I'm porting our applications to free and openbsd these days..    but I'm going to give ubuntu server a try
[01:42] <Tacroy> Oh, it's vaguely irritating really.
[01:43] <Tacroy> There's nothing on it at all.
[01:43] <Tacroy> Not even a compiler.
[01:43] <Fredle> ntz: ubuntu is linux, linux is linux, tvcard will work if your kernel supports it ;-)
[01:43] <ntz_> really fred?
[01:43] <Tacroy> You get tired of typing apt-get install <something vital> after a while.
[01:43] <Fredle> ntz_, yeah
[01:43] <ntz_> :O
[01:43] <Fredle> Tacroy, yeah, I know what you mean
[01:43] <kitche> Tacroy: well compilers should not be on a server really
[01:44] <postmodern> what's the default group a user is in?
[01:44] <kitche> Tacroy: but is this an outside server or an inside network server
[01:44] <LinuxHelp> Hi, when I start qemu, qemu-system-x86_64 -kernel-kqemu -vnc 0 -snapshot -localtime -m 160 Win64-C.qcow Doesn't work, it just stops, with 100% cpu, and accepts vnc connections, but doesn't actually show the vnc window. However -no-kqemu works with vnc and everything.
[01:44] <ntz_> well , i never installed a tuner card , nor with a linux , any helpfull link?
[01:44] <Fredle> kitche, to be honnest, sometimes it's very handy to get a compiler
[01:44] <kitche> postmodern: user the first user is in admin that you created on install
[01:44] <dsnyders> Fredle, I thought that once grub was loaded, it didn't use the bios anymore.
[01:44] <Tacroy> And it taunts you! It says "this program isn't really on the computer, but you can get it by typing this"
[01:44] <Tacroy> And I needed the compiler to compile and install the madwifi drivers that weren't installed by default.
[01:44] <postmodern> kitche, but what's the default group they belong to, i'm trying to get the owner/group correct on some files i'm sending to a ubuntu box
[01:45] <mjr> LinuxHelp, I too found that kqemu didn't work that well for me on my 64-bit host; probably it just needs more work.
[01:45] <kitche> postmodern: user
[01:45] <postmodern> kitche, not "users" ?
[01:45] <Fredle> ntz_, I don't wanna be a pain in the ass, but telling you google and ubuntu wiki will help you a lot ^^
[01:45] <kitche> postmodern: probably users lol
[01:45] <postmodern> kitche, alright thanks
[01:46] <kitche> !jfgi
[01:46] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:46] <Fredle> kitche, I even got gcc on soekris :-)
[01:46] <kitche> Fredle: umm what is soekris?
[01:46] <FFighter> guys
[01:46] <ntz_> the point is that , after looking over ubuntu forums about how to install an adapteck tv tuner , the only help it says is 'try modprobe with some parameters and change them'
[01:46] <raqamy> hi
[01:47] <FFighter> I'm confused...what is the difference between samba sharing and the automatic Windows Network ubuntu automatically creates on Natilus
[01:47] <Fredle> kitche, http://www.soekris.com/
[01:47] <ntz_> (i really dont come those channels , except thats nothing in google or none of ubuntu wikis [that are all exceptionals] _
[01:48] <ntz_> )
[01:48] <portxxx> hello. can someone tell me how to change the splash screens background??
[01:48] <|_ocke> FFighter, AFAIK that is done WITH samba
[01:48] <Fredle> kitche, it's some embedded hardware to create proffesional firewalls
[01:48] <Fredle> *professional
[01:48] <AlcoholicDoc> anyone have any ideas on setting up a static ip address with a wireless card? I've tried switching to manual configuration, and wifi-radar, but if i set up a static ip, i lose connectivity.
[01:49] <Fredle> AlcoholicDoc, you need to restart your network
[01:49] <FFighter> |_ocke: Hmmm... I'm trying to share a dsl connection (bridged) with a XP box with no success... could you help me ?
[01:49] <kitche> AlcoholicDoc: the ip has to be in the same subnet
[01:49] <Fredle> sudo /etc/init.d/net restart (or eth0, networking,..)
[01:49] <|_ocke> im not really experienced in that area
[01:49] <AlcoholicDoc> tried that... still nothing until i switch back to dhcp and restart network again.
[01:50] <|_ocke> just have the router get the connection
[01:50] <tim167_> Kino dv grab image is interlaced (horizontal lines when image is moving) how can i fix that ? thanks
[01:50] <|_ocke> and have all pcs DHCP from the router
[01:50] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: just do it with ifconfig
[01:50] <Mysticcal> anyone know to uninstall GNOME?
[01:50] <kitche> AlcoholicDoc: but why have a static ip on a wireless by chance if I may ask?
[01:50] <Fredle> AlcoholicDoc, the best way to get fixed ip's is to create fixed ip's in your dhcpserver on base of the mac's
[01:50] <AlcoholicDoc> dhcp is not an option in this situation
[01:50] <Mysticcal> and install wine over command line?
[01:50] <FFighter> |_ocke: Ok, thank you anyway
[01:50] <kevin521> hello
[01:50] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: if you just set the ip statically with ifconfig, the router won't care -- there's really nothing to set up
[01:51] <Dev05> Mysticcal, Get rid of the GNOME packages. sudo apt-get install wine
[01:51] <kevin521> i have a question
[01:52] <kitche> !ask | kevin521
[01:52] <ubotu> kevin521: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:52] <AlcoholicDoc> the problem with setting a static ip with network-manager still running is network-manager overrides that in a few seconds and sets it back to dhcp
[01:52] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: if you want to do static ip i believe that you will have to turn off network-manager and dhcbd completely
[01:52] <AlcoholicDoc> but, if i shutdown network-manager, i lose connectivity
[01:53] <AlcoholicDoc> so i shoud try to shutdown dhcbd as well then?
[01:53] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: then reconnect manually -- you can't mix the two thigns
[01:53] <FFighter> could anyone help me ?
[01:53] <AlcoholicDoc> i will try that...
[01:54] <FFighter> I'm having a hard time trying to share my internet connection with a XP box...
[01:54] <FFighter> I would be grateful if anyone could give a hand here!
[01:54] <eck> FFighter: do you have a router?
[01:54] <FFighter> eck: No, I don't
[01:54] <linuxnub> hey all... im still struggling with automounting issues in fstab
[01:55] <eck> FFighter: go buy one, they're cheap :-)
[01:55] <Akuma_> can i add debian unstable repos in my sources list? will it break anything?
[01:55] <Fredle> buy a router, it will be a lot more handy ^^
[01:55] <Fredle> FFighter, where are you from?
[01:55] <linuxnub> im trying to mount my other hard drive (sda) in fstab which is an LVM2 file (ext3)
[01:55] <Dev05> FFighter, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[01:55] <FFighter> eck: That would be an option, but I can't do it right now
[01:55] <FFighter> Fredle: Brazil
[01:55] <linuxnub> every attempt at changing and then /mount -a is giving me LVM2 unrecognized
[01:56] <Akuma_> router are expensive in brazil
[01:56] <linuxnub> any help appreciated
[01:56] <Akuma_> *routers
[01:56] <FFighter> yes, if you take into account the dolar->real conversion rate
[01:56] <Fredle> oh ok, then you need to check another shop ^^  we've got an online shop running in the benelux
[01:56] <kitche> umm ok never knew linux has sysctl
[01:56] <eck> you could probably get by with a hub even
[01:56] <FFighter> eck: Is it so difficult to set up without a router that nobody around cares to help me ?
[01:57] <gavin> this is probably a dumb question, but how do I turn off the splash on login with feisty? it's not in sessions anymore.
[01:57] <Dev05> FFighter, Did you read the link I sent you???
[01:57] <Fredle> FFighter, you'll need 2 nics on the linuxbox
[01:57] <FFighter> Dev05: Sorry, I haven't seen it
[01:57] <eck> FFighter: i don't even know how you would do it with a router -- i think the issue is that most people take them for granted, so have the same mentality
[01:57] <eck> without, even
[01:57] <Dev05> FFighter, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[01:57] <FFighter> Dev05: Thanks, I will take a look
[01:57] <Tacroy> Does Ubuntu keep a firewall anywhere in specific?
[01:58] <kitche> !iptables | Tacroy
[01:58] <ubotu> Tacroy: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:58] <Dev05> FFighter, You'll need 2 network card in your Linux box, that's for sure.
[01:58] <Fredle> Tacroy, if you need a reel good firewall...  go get openbsd ;-)
[01:58] <gavin> Is it not even possible to disable the splash screen?
[01:58] <gavin> hmm... maybe only through gconf-editor
[01:58] <h4wk0> !mount
[01:58] <Dev05> gavin, Open gconf-editor
[01:59] <FFighter> Dev05: I had already tried this one... the difference here is that I've got an USB mode, so a bridge (nas0 ?) is created and things get more complex
[01:59] <Tacroy> Actually I was going to use FreeBSD, because I don't think openBSD supports my wireless card.
[01:59] <Tacroy> But I decided Ubuntu would be less of a hassle.
[01:59] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:59] <Fredle> Tacroy, openbsd supports a lot of hardware nowadays
[01:59] <kitche> Tacroy: doesn't matter which one you use since freebsd has pf also if you wish to install it of course
[01:59] <Dev05> gavin, Then go to apps/gnome-session/options
[01:59] <Fredle> check the site ;-)
[01:59] <Tacroy> Besides, I already know how to use iptables.
[01:59] <PurpZeY> Does anyone know why a file I encoded using mencoder wouldn't play on a windows machine? (into mpg format from ogg)
[01:59] <h4wk0> !fstab
[01:59] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:59] <Fredle> I've got the brand new cdpack of openbsd 4.1 on my desk ^^
[01:59] <FFighter> Dev05: I could paste the ifconfig output if that helps to figure it out
[02:00] <Tacroy> Fredle: my wireless card isn't on OpenBSD's compatibility list, but it is on FreeBSD's.
[02:00] <gavin> dev05 thanks. did it ... bye guys
[02:00] <Tacroy> And I realized that pf is on both, but I already know how to use iptables soooo...
[02:00] <Tacroy> But anyway! Is there a firewall anywhere already?
[02:00] <Dev05> FFighter, Wouldn't it work anyway? Looks simple...
[02:00] <kitche> Tacroy: iptables is the firewall what do you mean anywhere already
[02:00] <Fredle> Tacroy, you only need a firewall?
[02:01] <FFighter> Dev05: I've tried it many times and I can't manage to get the XP box to ping my Ubuntu box
[02:01] <Tacroy> No, I mean the actual firewall configuration.
[02:01] <Fredle> kitche, I think he means stuff like suse fw
[02:01] <Tacroy> Like a list of iptables commands.
[02:01] <FFighter> Dev05: I don't know what else to do, I really need some help...
[02:01] <Fredle> ah ok
[02:01] <Fredle> I don't know a lot of iptables
[02:01] <Fredle> I'm studying pf :-)
[02:01] <Tacroy> 'snot that hard.
[02:01] <kitche> Tacroy: unless you mean the frontends to iptables there is firestarter and Guarddogg Tacroy there is tons you have to enter the commands into iptables for it to work right
[02:01] <Dev05> FFighter, I have to say that I've tried this before and I couldn't get it to work. Now, I've never tried that post... Hold on.
[02:02] <Tacroy> kitche: I know, I've done it before.
[02:02] <FFighter> Dev05: Ok, no hurry
[02:02] <kitche> Tacroy: I would try and find a creditable site that has a good iptables setup
[02:02] <Tacroy> I have one already.
[02:02] <KromiX> hey whats the best mp3 downloading program to use on ubuntu ?
[02:02] <Tacroy> I was asking if there's already somewhere in Ubuntu where I should put it.
[02:02] <lockd> hi
[02:02] <Tacroy> wget!
[02:02] <Fredle> KromiX, use limewire or some
[02:02] <kitche> Tacroy: everything goes though iptables command
[02:02] <Fredle> or wget ^^
[02:02] <Tacroy> *sigh*
[02:03] <Tacroy> Nevermind, I'll just add to rc.local
[02:03] <Fredle> curl ;-)
[02:03] <lockd> is there any way to install Ubuntu when you have another distro installed (using wget or something?)
[02:03] <Dev05> FFighter, Could we go in a private conversation (there's too much "noise" to follow a conversation in this channel) :) ?
[02:03] <kitche> Tacroy: iptables keeps a database for all it's firewall configurations you can add it to rc.local if you wish
[02:03] <h4wk0> !partion
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <Fredle> lockd, you mean like running it on the partitions you like to install on?
[02:03] <h4wk0> !partions
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <Tacroy> !partitions
[02:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:04] <FFighter> Dev05: Of course
[02:04] <kitche> Tacroy: so when computer boots each time iptables is setup like you want it
[02:04] <lockd> Fredle: well yeah, i have those partitions set up
[02:04] <FFighter> Dev05: Pardon my ignorance, but how to engage on a private conversation on LostIRC (I've only used mIRC so far)
[02:04] <h4wk0> !dismounter
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dismounter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <Tacroy> Kitche: I was just wondering if Ubuntu already has a place for firewall rules. Apparently it doesn't.
[02:04] <crimsun> FFighter: /msg nick foo blah crack
[02:04] <h4wk0> !diskmounter
[02:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:05] <sonicjosh> how u install java
[02:05] <h4wk0> Trying to mount while drunkl is hard
[02:05] <Fredle> lockd, I don't know about ubuntu, it may work, but the best is to use the livecd I suppose. no probs with distro's like gentoo
[02:05] <crimsun> !java >sonicjosh
[02:05] <dave-ubu> is there anyway to adjust the Gamma or Brightness in Gnome? theres an option in XFCE but i cant seem to find it in Gnome!
[02:05] <zbrown> h4wk0: depends on what you're mounting
[02:05] <sonicjosh> !java
[02:05] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:05] <crimsun> dave-ubu: there's always xgamma(1x)
[02:05] <h4wk0> not a blonde fo sure
[02:05] <h4wk0> :P
[02:05] <MysticcalFX> anyone know how to uninstall GNOME?
[02:05] <zbrown> h4wk0: hah
[02:05] <kitche> Tacroy: nope and I told you where the rules are kept anyways in the iptables database but rc.local is good
[02:05] <MysticcalFX> what GUI would be good for a 866mhz /w 256mb ram...
[02:05] <dave-ubu> crimsun, bare in mind i'm new ish to linux in general
[02:06] <cy_> i would like to do a .deb package myself.... any hints on where to start.. to build one ubuntu-specific ?
[02:06] <Fredle> MysticcalFX, sudo rm -R /*   ;-)
[02:06] <lockd> Fredle: ah Gentoo, what I use now
[02:06] <ntz_> http://google.com/search?q=how+to+install+gnome+
[02:06] <MysticcalFX> rofl Fredly nt
[02:06] <MysticcalFX> Fredle
[02:06] <jin> when I move a window in the horizontal direction, the border of the window flicker...    but it does not when moving it in the vertical direction. some one help me with the refresh rates plz
[02:06] <MysticcalFX> im not that stupid :P
[02:06] <crimsun> cy_: see the Packaging Guide under the 6.10 tab of help.ubuntu.com
[02:06] <AlcoholicDoc> so... stopping dhcdbd and network-manager does not help.... still kills my connection
[02:06] <eck> MysticcalFX: that's enough for gnome/xfce
[02:06] <cy_> thanks crimsun
[02:06] <MysticcalFX> eck...
[02:07] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: you need to reconnect with iwconfig and then set up ip stuff with ifconfig
[02:07] <MysticcalFX> so ok
[02:07] <silent_> what utility is the best for managing partitions?
[02:07] <Fredle> ok ^^
[02:07] <MattJ> silent_, gparted
[02:07] <MysticcalFX> so, how do you uninstall gnome over command line?
[02:07] <AlcoholicDoc> eck: never used ifconfig before...think you could run me through that?
[02:07] <coolgeek> im completely new to linux.... Now using ubuntu.. all going pretty well, but for the first time i want to get something working that only comes in exe setup form.... is there any way to use this?
[02:07] <MattJ> MysticcalFX, sudo aptitude remove gnome ?
[02:08] <kitche> !wine | coolgeek
[02:08] <ubotu> coolgeek: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:08] <MattJ> MysticcalFX, I am only guessing :)
[02:08] <MysticcalFX> right
[02:08] <dave-ubu> is there anyway to adjust the Gamma or Brightness in Gnome? theres an option in XFCE but i cant seem to find it in Gnome! apart from using "xgamma(1x)" ;)
[02:08] <jin> when I move a window in the horizontal direction, the border of the window flicker...    but it does not when moving it in the vertical direction. some one help me with the refresh rates plz
[02:08] <MysticcalFX> i don't want to throw out anything in my distro
[02:08] <Fredle> MysticcalFX, is't it possible to deinstall the ubuntu-desktop?
[02:08] <hajhouse> what is the difference between the xen-server and xen-desktop packages?
[02:08] <MattJ> MysticcalFX, why exactly do you want to remove GNOME?
[02:09] <kitche> hajhouse: one is for the server the other is for the client I guess
[02:09] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: yeah, so first you use iwconfig to associate with the AP and then you do something like ifconfig eth1 some_ip_adress netmask some_netmask
[02:09] <lockd> anyone use ipw3945 and it's f**** up daemon ipw3945d?
[02:09] <Fredle> hajhouse, xen-server is dom0 stuff, xen-desktop will get you the opportunity to run domU's in X11
[02:09] <lockd> or is there another way to do this?
[02:09] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: you can use route to set up the default gateway and edit /etc/resolv.conf to put in the dns stuff
[02:09] <MysticcalFX> because when i installed it, i selected an improper rez, and i'd rather just uninstall it and use SSH
[02:09] <zbrown> lockd: not really, I use it without issue
[02:09] <PurpZeY> Can someone tell me what codec I should use in mencoder in order to have a file that will play properly in windows?
[02:09] <PurpZeY> Or a different encoder
[02:09] <lockd> zbrown: seized up my system a lot
[02:10] <lockd> zbrown: and I'm in no position to unbolt this laptop
[02:10] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: alternatively i think you can stick all the information in /etc/network/interfaces, or something like that
[02:10] <MysticcalFX> does sudo apt-get install wine work?
[02:10] <zbrown> lockd: how do you know it was that that froze it?
[02:10] <eck> MysticcalFX: if you have the right repositories, then yes
[02:10] <PurpZeY> MysticalFX: It should with repos.
[02:10] <lockd> zbrown: syslog
[02:10] <zero> help?
[02:10] <AlcoholicDoc> I have edited /etc/network/interfaces and that also killed everything
[02:10] <eck> MysticcalFX: you just need universe
[02:10] <zero> how can i verify if a program it's correctly installed
[02:10] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: then you need to restart the networking service
[02:10] <zbrown> i see, lockd what kind of laptop?
[02:10] <zero> like beryl
[02:11] <PurpZeY> zero: run it?
[02:11] <hajhouse> Fredle: do you mean looking at the domU's virtual framebuffer inside an X11 window like with VMware?
[02:11] <lockd> zbrown: dv8000 from HP
[02:11] <dave-ubu> is there anyway to adjust the Gamma or Brightness in Gnome? theres an option in XFCE but i cant seem to find it in Gnome! apart from using "xgamma(1x)" ;)
[02:11] <eck> AlcoholicDoc: e.g. sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:11] <zbrown> lockd: hmm what version of ubuntu?
[02:11] <zero> PurpZeY: i run it and it doesn't works
[02:11] <AlcoholicDoc> eck: k.... i'll play around with it for a bit more
[02:11] <lockd> zbrown: well, not running Ubuntu yet
[02:11] <clifford_> I'm lost. looking for beryl help. Anyone?
[02:11] <silent_> I think I screwed up by making too many primary partitions... is there a way to change a primary partition to a logical partition? Can I change my swap to logical?
[02:11] <zero> PurpZeY: i tried with       sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager esmerald-themes
[02:11] <lockd> zbrown: i am still trying to find a method to "bootstrap" it sans CD
[02:11] <Pelo> how much time would you expect a 2gig transfer to a usb flash drive to take ?
[02:11] <jimmygoon_> How do I check the status/connections of my sockets?
[02:11] <PurpZeY> zero: #beryl
[02:11] <zbrown> lockd: whats it running then?
[02:11] <eck> silent_: no, i think you need to repartition
[02:12] <clifford_> thanks
[02:12] <Oxy-Cotton> Is silverex legal?
[02:12] <silent_> eck, what is the max primary partitions allowed?
[02:12] <vulcan40> clifford have you installed beryl.
[02:12] <hajhouse> Pelo: hours if it is USB1.0, minutes if it is fast USB
[02:12] <lockd> zbrown: Gentoo.. ipw3945 1.0.5
[02:12] <eck> silent_: i think really though the only reason those things would matter is if you had an old/broken bios and need /boot near the beginning of the disk
[02:12] <eck> silent_: i think 48? something like that
[02:12] <zbrown> lockd: i see, well in ubuntu that driver works fine
[02:12] <zbrown> with the daemon
[02:12] <xkpe> hello
[02:12] <lockd> zbrown: really, a "control daemon" for a wireless card.. silly idea
[02:13] <silent_> my bios is fine, I'm getting a max partition error in a windows install
[02:13] <Pelo> hajhouse, so 30 minutes is not "slow" ?
[02:13] <silent_> I know its due to my partitioning in linux
[02:13] <zbrown> lockd: well only way to do it without more details from intel
[02:13] <xkpe> how can i run a window program using sudo ?
[02:13] <lockd> zbrown: but is this package in vanilla Ubuntu, otherwise I'm tempted to try back with NetBSD
[02:13] <hajhouse> Pelo: maybe not
[02:13] <MysticcalFX> can you control Wine over Command line?
[02:13] <lockd> zbrown: actually openbsd
[02:13] <PurpZeY> Can someone tell me what codec I should use in mencoder in order to have a file that will play properly in windows? or a different encoder to get from a ogg to an mpg or avi?
[02:13] <Pelo> hajhouse, thanks , I was starting to wonder
[02:13] <zbrown> lockd: its in vanilla 7.04, works out of box
[02:13] <eck> silent_: but it works fine in ubuntu?
[02:13] <kitche> MysticcalFX: wine is a command line application :)
[02:13] <MysticcalFX> yay?
[02:13] <zbrown> lockd: even works in live cd
[02:13] <xkpe> i want to run firefox as another user
[02:14] <Rodel> Hey its Pelo again :P
[02:14] <MysticcalFX> so how do you run a program via Wine?
[02:14] <silent_> eck, I can partition it in ubuntu, yes
[02:14] <PurpZeY> MysticcalFX: wine /path/
[02:14] <MattJ> MysticcalFX, wine <program>
[02:14] <lockd> zbrown: allright, know of a way to install with no CD like wget or something?
[02:14] <MysticcalFX> awesome
[02:14] <jamster545> why did i get kicked for accidentally hitting ping earlier?
[02:14] <zbrown> no cd? hmmm why no cd?
[02:14] <kitche> MysticcalFX: wine /<path>/to/exe
[02:14] <eck> xkpe: sudo -u some_username the_program
[02:14] <Pelo> hello Rodel
[02:14] <silent_> eck, another question, could I format the partition as ntfs from within ubuntu, then try to install onto it with windows setup?
[02:14] <linuxnub> can anyone help me to mount an LVM on a seperate hard drive?
[02:14] <Rodel> Pelo, thanks for all the help yesterday/lastnight
[02:14] <eck> silent_: i believe that will work
[02:15] <hajhouse> Pelo: if you are curious, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB. USB speeds are 1.5 Mbit/s, 12 Mbit/sec, or 480Mbit/sec. If any of the cables or hubs or anything in the system is not rated for the high speeds the drive will fall back to the slowest speed
[02:15] <Pelo> Rodel, did it work ? I don'T rightly remember
[02:15] <zbrown> lockd: hmmm why no cd drive?
[02:15] <silent_> what package should I get for ntfs format support?
[02:15] <eck> silent_: i'm not sure if windows expects to be on a primary partition or anything weird like that though
[02:15] <hereiam2345> How do I change the splash screen?
[02:15] <hajhouse> Pelo: so yeah it could be normal for copying 2 gigs to take hours
[02:15] <silent_> eck, I think it might
[02:15] <coolgeek> kitche: thanks for the help seems to work great
[02:15] <ntz_> silent_ : i use ntfs-3g without problems
[02:15] <lockd> zbrown: corrupted, all of the downloads I have done
[02:15] <kitche> silent_: there really isn't one for ntfs formatting
[02:15] <Rodel> Pelo, i dont remember exactly what went on last night, it was late, but i think you had to go before i got it running, but in the end i got it to go
[02:15] <jamster545> always install windows first
[02:15] <hereiam2345> How do I change the splash screen? If somebody knows, please help.
[02:15] <zbrown> lockd: all the iso downloads?
[02:16] <netdur> how do I know which X display I use?
[02:16] <Pelo> hajhouse, I'm guessing the cable is the issue here then
[02:16] <lockd> zbrown: every attempt I made at downloading an iso
[02:16] <jamster545> go to system settings in ubuntu to change splash
[02:16] <eck> hereiam2345: the gnome splash screen?
[02:16] <kitche> netdur: echo $DISPLAY
[02:16] <xkpe> eck: i get an error, i'm trying to run firefox, says Xlib cant connect
[02:16] <lockd> zbrown: is there a "from the net" install option
[02:16] <zbrown> lockd: hmmm guess that issue stems back to your issues with the ipw3945d
[02:16] <nelsonuwp> is there a dvd shrink-like program for ubuntu?
[02:16] <silent_> kitche, there is an item in the format dropdown in gparted
[02:16] <netdur> kitche, thank you
[02:16] <eck> xkpe: you need to be in an X11 session so you have a screen to attach to
[02:16] <hereiam2345> eck: yes. Instead of just displaying the regular ubuntu splash when I log in, I want something different.
[02:16] <kitche> hereiam2345: which splash screen
[02:16] <lockd> zbrown: no, but this box is going to the dumps
[02:16] <zbrown> lockd: http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71 <-0-- that might give you a better idea
[02:16] <eck> hereiam2345: open up gconf-editor, and do a search for splash
[02:16] <jamster545> heriam2345: go to system settings and click splash screen
[02:16] <kitche> silent_: never use gparted before so I wouldn't have known anyways
[02:17] <hereiam2345> kitche: the one that appears when you log in, where it says "nautilus", etc.
[02:17] <jamster545> gparted is as easy a QTParted
[02:17] <xkpe> i am, i typed it on a terminal, where should i type it?
[02:17] <kitche> hereiam2345: yeah the gconf-editor does that though you meant the usplash
[02:17] <RyanRyan52> when you do the command losetup, does it last after you reboot?
[02:17] <silent_> kitche, k, I'm gonna try install again, which such since I have to reinsall grub every time
[02:17] <kitche> jamster545: I don't use QTParted either :)
[02:17] <zbrown> lockd: http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/ thats another
[02:17] <silent_> sucks*
[02:17] <xkpe> eck: i am, i typed it on a terminal, where should i type it?
[02:18] <hereiam2345> kitche: can you guide me through it?
[02:18] <eck> xkpe: i think as long as $DISPLAY is set it will be fine
[02:18] <linuxnub> can anyone help me to get sda mounted from sdb when sda is LVM2 formatted
[02:18] <Pelo> hajhouse, there is something  I need to account for,  because  2 gig at 15 mb/s should only take 2.5 minutes
[02:18] <MattJ> hereiam2345, http://kutuma.blogspot.com/2007/03/change-gnome-splash-screen.html
[02:18] <eck> xkpe: check that you get output from echo $DISPLAY
[02:18] <kitche> hereiam2345: nope not a gnome user
[02:18] <xkpe> eck: 0:0.0
[02:18] <starly> hi, has anyone experience with manipulating runlevels and upstart?
[02:18] <jamster545> i dont use gnome either
[02:18] <unperson> I'm trying to setup file sharing with samba but I'm having some trouble.
[02:19] <crimsun> starly: more precisely?
[02:19] <jamster545> i use KDE
[02:19] <hereiam2345> MattJ: thank you. This will work.
[02:19] <lockd> zbrown: thanks, i think the first helped
[02:19] <unperson> I used the share folder option from the desktop, which installed samba.
[02:19] <xkpe> eck: just :0.0 no zero on the begin
[02:19] <eck> xkpe: i don't know, afaik it should work
[02:19] <unperson> But I want the share to be restricted to specific users, not public.
[02:19] <lockd> zbrown: though it's a SMALL ramdrive, so I sure hope it works
[02:20] <jamster545> can someone teach me how to develop on ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu?
[02:20] <kitche> jamster545: develop what
[02:20] <jamster545> idk
[02:20] <jamster545> just like software
[02:20] <eck> jamster545: go buy a book :-P
[02:20] <RyanRyan52> when you do the command losetup, does it last after you reboot?
[02:20] <aubade> lol.
[02:20] <jamster545> too cheap
[02:20] <jimmygoon_> How do I change the owner of a file?
[02:20] <lockd> any recent additions to gnome like reinstatement of tab-completion?
[02:20] <eck> jamster545: seriously, if you want to learn programming, buy a book
[02:20] <Pelo> later folkls
[02:20] <starly> are the runlevels just the content of /etc/rcX.d/ ? there i am confused, README tells, links beginning with K are inactive, but other instructions told me, links with K are those executed at leaving the runlevel
[02:20] <kitche> I should really start working on my QT database program or learn how to meta program
[02:20] <jamster545> poo
[02:21] <aubade> jimdier: Right-click on a file/dir and select 'Properties'. It's under the permissions tab.
[02:21] <nj786> where can i download printer dirvers?
[02:21] <lockd> kitche: a database frontend in QT?
[02:21] <nj786> drovers?
[02:21] <jamster545> i got banned from here on my other comp because i accidentally pinged everybody
[02:21] <nj786> driver**********
[02:21] <crimsun> starly: the rcX.d and S*,K* have nothing to do with upstart per se. They're sysvinit.
[02:21] <unperson> I edited /etc/samba/smb.conf and added the "valid users" value and the file checks out with testparm. I used sudo smbpasswd -a to add a user with a password.
[02:21] <aubade> Can also use chmod from a terminal if you want. Something like 'chmod user:group file'.
[02:21] <hajhouse> Pelo: the speeds are Mbits/sec, not Mbytes/sec (i.e., you are calculating a speed that is 8 times too fast)
[02:21] <kitche> jamster545: you don't need a book to learn to program just read some docs
[02:21] <jamster545> from where?
[02:21] <kitche> lockd: yeah just for something to do lol
[02:21] <aubade> Err, 'chmod 754 file' even. Was thinking of chown. :P
[02:22] <starly> does that mean, i don't have any runlevels with upstart?
[02:22] <jamster545> kitche: where can i find these docs?
[02:22] <crimsun> starly: currently upstart is in sysvinit-compatibility mode, meaning nothing but essential runlevel handling is implemented in upstart syntax/semantics.
[02:22] <kitche> jamster545: depends what language you want to learn myself I know Java gonna learn some ruby so I can program in that to program in Java
[02:22] <unperson> Then I tried to login with that user and pass, but when I try to connect (from the same machine) with smbclient I get, "tree connect failed: Call returned zero bytes (EOF)".  What's going on?
[02:22] <hajhouse> jamster545: if you don't know how to program but want to learn, try something easy like python or ruby
[02:22] <crimsun> starly: eventually that is proposed.
[02:22] <jamster545> i cant spend money on it so i will re-install solaris and try java i guess
[02:23] <eck> jamster545: if you are interested in C, the beginning linux programming book by wrox is good
[02:23] <hajhouse> jamster545: you can learn from their online documents. http://ruby-lang.org and http://python.org
[02:23] <jamster545> ty
[02:23] <nelsonuwp> has anyone had any luck with gdesklets? i cant seem to get any of theweather ones to work
[02:23] <jamster545> i will look
[02:23] <MattJ> jamster545, Solaris?? btw, #ubuntu-ops may help you get un-banned
[02:23] <jamster545> oh ty
[02:23] <starly> at the moment i can configure runlevels, but later i will have to learn how upstart handles the system start?
[02:23] <jamster545> i accidentally clicked ping earlier and got ban
[02:24] <jamster545> and solaris is SUN OS
[02:24] <Fivetwentysix> I don't know if this is a bug or not, but under my KInfoCenter proccessor information, it says my CPU Mhz is 1000. I'm using AMD64 3000+ and i'm pretty sure my clock speed is suppose to be 1.8 Ghz
[02:24] <hajhouse> jamster545: java is not a great first programming language to learn (i.e., its hard)
[02:24] <jamster545> it is java based
[02:24] <unperson> Alternately, can anyone point to a good tutorial on setting up file sharing (for non-public shares) in Ubuntu?
[02:24] <eck> starly: right now i believe upstart just uses the traditional sysv runlevel scripts
[02:24] <crimsun> Fivetwentysix: are you positive it doesn't scale up/down?
[02:24] <hajhouse> unperson: try sshfs
[02:25] <underguiz> how can i open banshee instead of rhytmbox with my keyboard multmedia key
[02:25] <eck> unperson: do a google search for nfs howtos
[02:25] <underguiz> ?
[02:25] <crimsun> starly: it already handles "system start"
[02:25] <jamster545> bbl i got boyscout crap to do (yes i am only 13 but do know my way around a comp)
[02:25] <zbrown> hajhouse: thats debateable, its what they use in high schools. I think its good in that it has the complicated apsects (most anyway) and is still 'safe'
[02:25] <Fivetwentysix> crimsun: I wouldn't know :-)
[02:25] <unperson> hajhouse, eck:  I should say specifically with samba.
[02:26] <hajhouse> zbrown: i'm kinda biased against java for a lot of reasons. and they did teach pascal in highschool for decades, that didn't make it a good language ;)
[02:26] <MattJ> hajhouse, ++
[02:26] <hajhouse> unperson: oh, sorry, don't know much about that.
[02:26] <unperson> I have a feeling that I'm just missing some really simple step here.
[02:26] <hajhouse> !samba
[02:26] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:26] <eck> hajhouse: i don't think it really matters what language you're taught, the important thing is that you learn how to program well -- picking up new languages is easy
[02:26] <kitche> hajhouse: many sites use java now without you knowing like google :)
[02:26] <Fivetwentysix> Anyways anyone know what I sohuld do to fix my cpu clockspeed?
[02:26] <RAOF> underguiz: Probably under System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[02:27] <unperson> I thought I'd just go, set "public ok =no" on the share, then add a user with smbpasswd and be set.
[02:27] <eyedol> I'm getting a choppy sound, whenever I play audio files, please anyone knows of a fix?
[02:27] <RAOF> Fivetwentysix: Probably nothing, because that seems to be the intended behaviour.
[02:27] <underguiz> RAOF, there is just www, mail and terminal
[02:27] <hajhouse> eck: agreed, but some languages are still better for starting. i'd say do one class on python first, then jump into java or C
[02:28] <RAOF> underguiz: Oh, maybe that's new in either feisty or gutsy :)
[02:28] <RAOF> underguiz: Sorry :)
[02:28] <newen> C is easier for me :)
[02:28] <Fivetwentysix> RAOF but amd64 3000's clockspeed is suppose to be 1.8Ghz not 1000Mhz
[02:29] <newen> I don't like python at all
[02:29] <LinuxHelp> RAOF, I also run my sempron 3000 at 1Ghz
[02:29] <RAOF> Fivetwentysix: Yes, but it's *also* meant to scale down to 1GHz when unused.
[02:29] <RAOF> newen: Why?  Python rocks :P
[02:29] <Fivetwentysix> Okay
[02:29] <newen> I could lke python if it was a compiled language
[02:29] <hajhouse> re difference between ubuntu-xen-desktop and ubuntu-xen-server, it looks like ubuntu-xen-server is for i386 only, but ubuntu-xen-desktop has an amd64 version
[02:29] <shaya> weird setuid question
[02:29] <hajhouse> i
[02:29] <hajhouse> i
[02:29] <shaya> I have a program setuid root
[02:30] <shaya> but both getuid and geteuid returns the uid of the user running the program?
[02:30] <hajhouse> i'll try ubuntu-xen-desktop-amd64 since that's the kind of machine i have
[02:30] <strabes> is it possible to use compiz with AIGLX on an ATI radeon mobility X1400?
[02:30] <newen> python is a scripting language
[02:30] <crimsun> newen: ...it does compile but not in the same classical sequence method as C or C++.
[02:30] <underguiz> RAOF, https://bugs.launchpad.net/control-center/+bug/4265
[02:30] <RAOF> str4: No.
[02:30] <underguiz> RAOF, it's hardcoded
[02:30] <underguiz> :/
[02:30] <priich> !scrolling
[02:30] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:30] <hajhouse> newen: yes
[02:30] <jamster545> hey i am back
[02:31] <Mysticcal> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[02:31] <Mysticcal> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[02:31] <Mysticcal> fix?
[02:31] <newen> so, mono or java are beter alternatives for me
[02:31] <eck> Mysticcal: that is the fix ;-)
[02:31] <jamster545> what do you all think is the easiest lang. for programming on solaris/windows/ubuntu?
[02:31] <hajhouse> newen: maybe. what are your needs?
[02:31] <Mysticcal> lol
[02:31] <RAOF> newen: Compiling is overrated.  Plus, python-on-mono :P
[02:31] <eck> Mysticcal: you need to have an X11 session open and be connected to it
[02:31] <Mysticcal> eck, how does one do that?
[02:31] <RAOF> jamster545: Python.
[02:31] <eck> Mysticcal: uh, make sure you're logged into a graphical session
[02:32] <newen> python is slooow
[02:32] <MattJ> python eats RAM!
[02:32] <andersbr> jamster545: Easiest language for accomplishing what?  (though the answer is always Python :) )
[02:32] <crimsun> newen: for what use cases?
[02:32] <Mysticcal> im not :(
[02:32] <eck> newen: you can write slow C and fast python code, it all depends on what you're doing
[02:32] <jamster545> what do all of you think is the easiest to learn though? i just want to learn general programming for software and stuff
[02:32] <Mysticcal> ech, is there a gui I could install on a 866mhz / 256mb of ram?
[02:32] <MattJ> jamster545, different languages are good for different things
[02:32] <hajhouse> newen: both are often true of python, both are often true of java implementations too
[02:32] <crimsun> eck: precisely.
[02:33] <Mysticcal> all im trying to do is run a remote Torrent service... utorrent + webui
[02:33] <newen> it's easier to write slow phyton code
[02:33] <At0mic_P1> Anyone good with bluetooth? I can send and recieve files both ways but I can't pair my PC and phone.
[02:33] <jamster545> i have sun studio but i havent used it
[02:33] <newen> and it needs far more RAM
[02:33] <richiefrich> slow python ?
[02:33] <richiefrich> i want fast !
[02:33] <hajhouse> Mysticcal: suggest xfce
[02:33] <crimsun> newen: err, no, it's likely much easier to write completely crap in C.
[02:33] <Mysticcal> ok
[02:33] <Mysticcal> i'll try xfce
[02:33] <richiefrich> E!
[02:33] <MattJ> or fluxbox <3
[02:33] <Mysticcal> i need to somehow uninstall GNOME first
[02:33] <Rodel> Noob Question: What is the main code language Ubuntu uses?
[02:33] <newen> well, in C you have to be careful with pointers
[02:34] <RAOF> newen: The simplicity/power of python can make it easier to use good *algorithms*, which are far and away the most important performance factor.
[02:34] <LinuxHelp> Rodel, C, and perl? afaik
[02:34] <richiefrich> Mysticcal: ahh why
[02:34] <LinuxHelp> Or some scripting language like perl anyway
[02:34] <jamster545> ubuntu... i forgot the coding for that
[02:34] <andersbr> Ah, I love the warm, rising flames of a good, vibrant language war.  Speaking of things that make other things warm, how can I tell if CPU scaling is working properly?
[02:34] <Mysticcal> richie, because startup goes to GNOME and it isn't installed correctly
[02:34] <MattJ> Mysticcal, are you trying to run a GUI program in SSH?
[02:34] <Rodel> I should probably go learn some C'
[02:34] <hajhouse> Rodel: there is no main one. More big programs are written in C; but lots of important programs are written in perl, python, c, and ocaml
[02:34] <RAOF> Rodel: That's a hard question.  Gnome tends to be written in C + Python + (a bit of) C#.
[02:34] <crimsun> Android: watch /proc/cpuinfo if you're a masochist.
[02:34] <richiefrich> Mysticcal: change it
[02:35] <crimsun> Android: sorry.
[02:35] <Mysticcal> richie: ho?
[02:35] <Mysticcal> how*?
[02:35] <crimsun> andersbr: watch /proc/cpuinfo if you're a masochist.
[02:35] <richiefrich> use startx
[02:35] <strabes> is it possible to use compiz with AIGLX on an ATI radeon mobility X1400?
[02:35] <richiefrich> and not gdm
[02:35] <jamster545> where would i go to find out how to program the languages for perl and such?
[02:35] <richiefrich> Mysticcal: ^
[02:35] <newen> python just gives fast development
[02:35] <RAOF> strabes: No matter how many times you ask, the answer will *still* be no!
[02:35] <jamster545> and sorry i sound like a noob
[02:35] <Rodel> Are all the languages similar? or do they have differences that different languages better for different projects?
[02:35] <jamster545> im not for most things
[02:35] <strabes> RAOF: nobody answered me the first time.... but thanks anyway
[02:36] <eck> RAOF: afaik all of the gnome libraries only use C
[02:36] <richiefrich> jamster545: there are books and or tuturials on the net
[02:36] <RAOF> Rodel: All languages are formally the same (as in, you *can* do everything in any language).  But different languages are more suited to different things.
[02:36] <richiefrich> jamster545: just google
[02:36] <Mysticcal> Fatal server error:
[02:36] <Mysticcal> no screens found
[02:36] <Mysticcal> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[02:36] <Mysticcal>       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[02:36] <jamster545> i need free
[02:36] <Mysticcal> ;(
[02:36] <richiefrich> jamster545: just google
[02:36] <jamster545> k
[02:36] <jamster545> i will
[02:36] <Fivetwentysix> C is prone to memory-leaks :-(
[02:36] <Mysticcal> richie ^^
[02:36] <orlock> RAOF: Write me Linux in VisualBasic!
[02:36] <richiefrich> Mysticcal: thats not the error post your  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:36] <crimsun> Fivetwentysix: the language itself is not. Poor programming by the programmer is.
[02:36] <hajhouse> Mysticcal: that normally means your video card is misconfigured in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:37] <richiefrich> Mysticcal: pastebin
[02:37] <MattJ> Fivetwentysix, only for bad coders
[02:37] <newen> yes, that's what I said, you have to be careful with pointers
[02:37] <RAOF> orlock: You can!  mono!
[02:37] <LinuxHelp> I would recommend learning to program in an interpreted language, such as Python or Java
[02:37] <andersbr> crimsun:  Yeah, the frequency keeps flipping up and down.  Thanks.
[02:37] <jamster545> i just installed kubuntu today since my xubuntu and ubuntu ISO's didnt go on the CD-RW's correctly
[02:37] <newen> but Glib and Gobject helps a lot
[02:37] <Fivetwentysix> Thanks for correcting me MattJ and crimsun
[02:37] <newen> with memory management
[02:37] <andersbr> Fivetwentysix: I once programmed a memory leak in Python.
[02:37] <noelferreira> how can i see if i have ffmpeg installed properly?
[02:37] <eck> Fivetwentysix: by the same token, you can leak memory in basically any garbage collecting language that uses reference counting
[02:37] <andersbr> It's doable. :)
[02:37] <jared> jared@jared-desktop:~$ emerald
[02:37] <jared> emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[02:37] <jared> Any one have an idea why this would be happening?
[02:37] <eyedol> I'm getting a choppy sound, whenever I play audio files, please anyone knows of a fix?
[02:37] <richiefrich> Mysticcal: and thats not gnome all screwed up you either dont have drivers installed correctly or you dont have your X configured
[02:37] <RAOF> jared: #ubuntu-effects, and use "emerald --replace"
[02:38] <noelferreira> how can i see if i have ffmpeg installed properly?
[02:38] <hajhouse> you can leak memory in python with circular references --- the garbage collector will never deallocate them
[02:38] <MattJ> richiefrich, I think he removed GNOME
[02:38] <richiefrich> MattJ: SO
[02:38] <richiefrich> MattJ: X will still start
[02:38] <richiefrich> MattJ: there is still a default wm
[02:38] <orlock> hmmmm
[02:38] <richiefrich> twm
[02:38] <imbrandon> noelferreira, dpkg -L|grep ffmpeg
[02:38] <MattJ> richiefrich, not if the Xsession script (or whatever Ubuntu uses) specifies GNOME
[02:38] <richiefrich> MattJ: ahh no
[02:38] <orlock> can i upgrade ubuntu 6.06 to ubuntu 7 without a cd?
[02:39] <jamster545> yeah i think u can
[02:39] <andersbr> orlock:  You should be able to with just a dist-upgrade.
[02:39] <jamster545> right
[02:39] <jamster545> and you can get the CD for free online or in the mail
[02:39] <orlock> jamster545:  cbf burning it
[02:39] <newen> what's faster, mono or python?
[02:39] <str4> investigating
[02:39] <orlock> sitting here on 2mbit fibre
[02:39] <andersbr> orlock:  You have to point your /etc/apt/sources list to point to the Feisty repositories..
[02:40] <LinuxHelp> newen, I think mono eh
[02:40] <eck> newen: mono
[02:40] <andersbr> newen:  I'm sure it depends on the task.  Probably Mono for most purposes.
[02:40] <RAOF> orlock, andersbr: noooo!
[02:40] <orlock> ahh, found what i was after in the faq
[02:40] <andersbr> RAOF:  What'd I do?
[02:40] <RAOF> orlock: You can, but you need to go through Edgy (6.10)
[02:40] <newen> and what's more RAM hungry?
[02:40] <eck> newen: i think mono is comparable to java
[02:40] <jamster545> is ping like an auto ban in this channel?
[02:40] <richiefrich> eck: mono it like .NET
[02:40] <RAOF> andersbr: There are *much* better ways of upgrading then sed s/dapper/feisty/ :)
[02:40] <orlock> RAOF: ahh, bugger!
[02:40] <kitche> jamster545: pretty much since the spam this channel gets
[02:41] <crimsun> jamster545: it's poor netiquette to ping an entire channel's participants.
[02:41] <jamster545> okay
[02:41] <RAOF> !upgrade > orlock <---- Check the PM from ubotu
[02:41] <hums> hi there, i need help please.. i've just installed beryl and launched beryl-manager, when i select beryl from "select window manager" nothing happens...
[02:41] <eck> richiefrich: i mean in terms of speed and resource usage
[02:41] <LinuxHelp> newen, mono is probably the most memory efficient out of: mono, java, python
[02:41] <jamster545> on my other comp i got banned because i accidentally hit ping but i am gonna get it back later by going to that one chanel
[02:41] <RAOF> LinuxHelp, newen: Again, Python runs on mono :)
[02:41] <newen> I still think that gnome programs should be programmed in C, C++ or mono
[02:41] <jamster545> wtf is mono?
[02:41] <RAOF> newen: Which means you can do python :)
[02:42] <LinuxHelp> .net for linux
[02:42] <hums> help!
[02:42] <codecaine> I have a usb harddrive that don't auto mount like my other harddrives how can I auto mount it on start up sometimes the /dev change for the hard drive is there a way to do it by the drives id or something
[02:42] <jamster545> i have heard of all of the other ones but not mono
[02:42] <eck> isn't mono just c#?
[02:42] <orville> nope
[02:42] <zbrown> newen: don't forget python
[02:42] <RAOF> hums: Go to #ubuntu-effects
[02:42] <MattJ> eck, not necessarily
[02:42] <kitche> newen: umm gnme programs are in those languages
[02:42] <kitche> eck: it does .net
[02:42] <newen> I dont like python!
[02:42] <RAOF> eck: Mono is *much* cooler than just C#
[02:42] <zbrown> newen: why?
[02:42] <eck> how much of the other parts of the .net stack has mono implemented?
[02:42] <jamster545> dang... this server is slow i am gonna switch
[02:42] <newen> It's like programming in javascript
[02:42] <newen> :)
[02:42] <zbrown> eck: they have a VB.NET version too
[02:43] <zbrown> newen: not really
[02:43] <kitche> eck: like VB, C#, ASP.net
[02:43] <imbrandon> eck almost 110%
[02:43] <BVBBQ> Can someone help me get my sound working again. last update seems to have knocked it out again.
[02:43] <jamster545> brb i am switching servers
[02:43] <RAOF> eck: It's the CIL.  Python, C$, VB.Net, Java, etc have backends that target the CIL.
[02:43] <lufis> I used to be able to right-click on a file in nautilus and "create archive" from the context menu. How can I get that functionality back?
[02:43] <newen> well, it's actually a script what you run
[02:43] <Mysticcal> i didn't remove GNOME yet.... i'd like to
[02:43] <eck> RAOF: yes, but afaik not all of those have actually been implemented, that is what i am trying to get at
[02:43] <RAOF> eck: Actually, that list *has* all been implemented.
[02:43] <imbrandon> eck, yes they have and then some
[02:43] <Mysticcal> but i keep trying the dkpg-reconfigure command... can't get it right, even though i put in the right info
[02:44] <eck> wow
[02:44] <newen> at least, python, but compiled to CIL and run by mono
[02:44] <eck> that's impressive :-)
[02:44] <jamster545> i'm back
[02:44] <kitche> Mysticcal: you putting sudo in front
[02:44] <RAOF> newen: I really don't get your obsession with compiling.
[02:44] <Mysticcal> im logged on as root
[02:44] <AlcoholicDoc> can anyone see this?
[02:44] <hajhouse> Mysticcal: maybe the info you think is right isn't. check output of lspci to make sure
[02:44] <kitche> eck: well it helps that microsoft partner is helping the project out Novell that is :)
[02:44] <newen> efficiency
[02:44] <AlcoholicDoc> this has me so confused
[02:44] <jamster545> i thought compiling was necessary?
[02:44] <Darth_Tux> AlcoholicDoc, no
[02:45] <hajhouse> newen: do you like ocaml?
[02:45] <richiefrich> jamster545: if your on a source distro
[02:45] <RAOF> newen: Actually, the CIL interpreter can do *better* than compile-time optimisations.
[02:45] <AlcoholicDoc> darth_Tux: no what?
[02:45] <imbrandon> eck, i think your about 3 years late, .net 1.0 and 2.0 have been fully implmented, and they are working on the newly mented 3
[02:45] <Darth_Tux> i cant see it
[02:45] <unperson> Ok, I found the problem.  I want to explicitly block any computers outside my LAN from being able to login to samba.  (this shouldn't actually be necessary unless I foul up port forwarding on the router)  I added "hosts allow = 192.168.0., <IP_ADDRESS>" and that's what keeps me from being able to connect.  Anyone know what I've screwed up there?
[02:45] <newen> hajhouse: I don't know ocaml
[02:45] <jamster545> you guys give me a headache
[02:45] <AlcoholicDoc> oh.... that... it didn't send until the network came back up
[02:45] <LinuxHelp> newen, look imo none of mono, java, python compile efficiently compared to C++ and pascal etc.
[02:46] <imbrandon> kitche, and it was done long before the novel deal
[02:46] <unperson> And yes, I'm certain that the IPs on my LAN are 192.168.0.*
[02:46] <jamster545> that is what my router uses
[02:46] <newen> I always program in C or C++
[02:46] <kitche> imbrandon: your point being Novell still knew how the languages work
[02:46] <imbrandon> kitche, no my point is this has been dating back 4+ years
[02:46] <jamster545> brb im off to google
[02:46] <newen> C++ is just quite complicated
[02:47] <eck> newen: no more complicated than C
[02:47] <imbrandon> and MS was far from the only one to push the ecma standard
[02:47] <lavar1917> c++ isnt to complicated
[02:47] <andersbr> Crap.  Ubuntu's already doing the right thing (keeping cpu frequency at a minimum when the laptop isn't plugged in).  What, pray tell, am I going to tweak?
[02:47] <audimage> I'm having problems getting Beryl to run properly on my system. I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, and I believe that I have the wrong driver enabled. However, on the Restricted Drivers Manager it reports that the ATI driver is enabled.
[02:47] <MattJ> I think languages discussion should probably go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <andersbr> eck:  You're smokin' crack, man!
[02:47] <newen> well, it's not as easy as C
[02:48] <newen> but in C, the GObject system is far more complicated that the native class system in C++
[02:48] <jamster545> for anyone who wants to learn C and C++ go to http:/www.cprogramming.com
[02:48] <vox754> There is actually a #ubuntu-programming, you just need to populate it!
[02:48] <andersbr> eck:  Seriously, there are a dozen features in C++ that C doesn't have.  C is very simple and minimalist by comparison.  No object-oriented stuff, no templates, etc...
[02:48] <LinuxHelp> Go forth, and multiply! .....
[02:48] <Mysticcal> cool, wrong video card PCI path being used...
[02:48] <kitche> MattJ: !offtopic
[02:48] <LinuxHelp> ^^ ubuntu-programming
[02:49] <andersbr> LinuxHelp: while( 1 ){ fork(); }   // OKAY!
[02:49] <jamster545> IF YOU WANT TO HELP PROGRAMMING OR NEED HELP IN IT GO TO #ubuntu-programming
[02:49] <kitche> MattJ: bah forgot I typed your name lol
[02:49] <AlcoholicDoc> eck: any other ideas... that didn't help at all.... had to turn network-manager and dhcdbd back on to bring network back up.
[02:49] <kitche> !offtopic
[02:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:49] <eck> andersbr: yeah, but you don't _have_ to use the complicated stuff, you can write C-like C++ programs (i.e. without oo)
[02:49] <audimage> Does anybody have an idea how I can check which graphics driver is actually being used, and how I can change it to the proper driver if the wrong one is enabled?
[02:49] <Pelo> jamster545, this would be a bash scripting channel ?
[02:49] <jamster545> ?
[02:49] <kitche> audimage: glxinfo
[02:50] <andersbr> eck:  That's like saying a computer is no more complicated than a rock, if you're using both to beat your laundry against.  :)
[02:50] <Xenos767> How do I find out my ubuntu version/ how can I update my ubuntu version to the latest?
[02:50] <jamster545> pelo: ?
[02:50] <AlcoholicDoc> redDEAD: are you the one that writes the ubuntu1501 blog on blogspot?
[02:50] <andersbr> audimage: Would depend on the chipset.  Do you know which driver you need?
[02:50] <Pelo> jamster545,  you posted a link to a channel I 'm asking if the channel is for bash scripting
[02:51] <jamster545> idk i heard it on here and repeated
[02:51] <theTrav> hello, I'm trying to back up my music collection, does Ubuntu have any ripping/encoding software out of the box? if not can anyone recommend me some?
[02:51] <Xenos767> Can someone help me step by step update my ubuntu version to the latest?
[02:51] <redDEAD> AlcoholicDoc, yeah i am
[02:51] <Pelo> the soundjuicer
[02:51] <andersbr> tehTrav:  Which formats are involved?
[02:51] <eck> theTrav: i just use cdrecord, flac, and faac
[02:51] <jamster545> brb i found a good C/C++ programming learn site
[02:52] <tinh_> jamster545, could you share with us?
[02:52] <eck> jamster545: i still think you should get a book, it's really easy to learn c/c++ poorly and write really awful code
[02:52] <theTrav> eck: thanks, are those programs or commands?
[02:52] <eck> theTrav: uh both
[02:52] <imbrandon> both
[02:52] <fir3chi3f> xenos try typing in command line: sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:53] <theTrav> hmm, front end's I should say
[02:53] <Xenos767> fir3chi3f ok ill try it
[02:53] <theTrav> and are they pre-installed or listed?
[02:53] <AlcoholicDoc> redDEAD: maybe you can help me then... I have an inspiron 1501... I used your blog to get the wireless working, but I can not set a static ip address... I was wondering if you have tried this at all and if so have you been successful
[02:53] <At0mic_PC> Anyone good with bluetooth? I can send and recieve files both ways but I can't pair my PC and phone.
[02:53] <eck> theTrav: i think you might want to look into the gui programs though, or at least something that can look up cddb information automatically
[02:53] <redDEAD> AlcoholicDoc, which method did you use?
[02:54] <lycus_setesh> I am trying to compile pidgin so I can use Bonjour, but I read I need howl installed in order to do this - however, after installing libavahi-compat-howl0, the configure file for pidgin does not detect HOWL.
[02:54] <lycus_setesh> Can anyone assist?
[02:54] <heath_> hey guys, i was hoping someone would know how to convert pdf to odt??
[02:54] <deviantintegral> anyone know how much memory is required to grow a raid 5 set with mdadm?
[02:54] <eck> lycus_setesh: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[02:54] <eck> lycus_setesh: that should get you everything you need
[02:54] <Onk> Nothing.
[02:54] <lycus_setesh> eck: I've already done that.
[02:54] <AlcoholicDoc> redDEAD: I used the native linux driver method... i used the link to Cosmin's blog to get the 64bit stuff...
[02:55] <eck> lycus_setesh: does it say what header it's looking for
[02:55] <Xenos767> fir3chi3f: I am getting this error E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? And sinaptic isnt open.
[02:55] <BVBBQ> Can someone help me get my sound working again. last update seems to have knocked it out again.
[02:55] <lycus_setesh> eck: howl.h usability, presence, how.h
[02:55] <Pelo> BVBBQ, check that you are still using asla
[02:55] <jamster545> if you are interested in learning C or C++ i found an excellent site
[02:55] <eck> lycus_setesh: if you get apt-file you can find out what packages provide those headers
[02:56] <eck> lycus_setesh: you can also search on packages.ubuntu.org, but sometimes that doesn't find things that apt-file does
[02:56] <BVBBQ> Pelo, how?
[02:56] <redDEAD> AlcoholicDoc, go to the avahi icon. right click, select manual configuration.
[02:56] <Rodel> BVBBQ: double click sound control in top left
[02:56] <Pelo> BVBBQ, menu > system > prefs > sound
[02:56] <Rodel> right*
[02:56] <jamster545> www.cprogramming.com is a great site with tutorials, compilers, and more for learning C and C++
[02:56] <Xenos767> Can someone help me update my version of ubuntu?
[02:56] <Rodel> or do what Pelo says
[02:56] <Rodel> :P
[02:57] <j4cbo> anyone know if standard Wine is as good as Cedega for DX9/Steam games yet?
[02:57] <Pelo> note do the channel,  always do what Pelo says,  no matter what
[02:57] <Mysticcal> where can I find my mouse config?
[02:57] <idiot> i'm trying to get compositing to work under x11.  i apt-get'd libxcomposite-dev and xcompmgr as well as adding the 'option "composite" "enable"' line in an "Extensions" section in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, but when i do a xdpyinfo, composite still isn't showing up.   any suggestions?
[02:57] <lycus_setesh> eck: Is the syntax apt-file search blah ?
[02:57] <Mysticcal> ps2 config?
[02:57] <eck> lycus_setesh: yeah
[02:57] <redDEAD> AlcoholicDoc, at the network settings menu click wireless, turn off roaming mode. and edit your connection settings
[02:57] <Zelda> Xenos767: I would recommend doing a fresh install of 7.04
[02:57] <eck> lycus_setesh: first you need to apt-file update
[02:57] <BVBBQ> Pelo, this is what it says "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing"
[02:58] <heath_> doea anyone know how to convert pdf to odt?
[02:58] <Pelo> BVBBQ, is says that in the sound menu ???
[02:58] <vox754> jamster545, if you think you can contribute you can post the link on a thread about programming tutorials in ubuntuforums.org
[02:58] <AlcoholicDoc> redDEAD: I thought it should be that easy too, but when I do that, I lose connectivity... even tried to sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart after that, but still no luck.
[02:58] <eck> heath_: i don't think you can
[02:58] <MattJ> !upgrade | Xenos767
[02:58] <ubotu> Xenos767: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:58] <Xenos767> Zelda: is there a way I can do that without deleteing one of my files? I am trying to move one of my files to a flash drive from the desktop but it seems that the last update knocked out all my folders and I cant view them. The only way I can do it is through terminal but I dont know how to do that. Please help.
[02:59] <Pelo> BVBBQ, off hand that error msg looks like a  permission thing, what command triggered it please
[02:59] <Zelda> Can someone help Xeno767 with that?
[02:59] <BVBBQ> Pelo, thats what it says when i test the alsa
[02:59] <soumou> hello
[03:00] <MattJ> Xenos767, the files are on the hard disk now?
[03:00] <Pelo> Xenos767, I 've been having trouble with usb drives to , hold on I'm getting you a link
[03:00] <soumou> sorry, i was just checking that i was connected
[03:00] <heath_> eck, i found out you can can do it using kword :)
[03:00] <Xenos767> MattJ: yes, they are located on my desktop.
[03:00] <tux_wears_a_tux> Hi. I just installed Beryl, but how do I get it to work.
[03:00] <MattJ> Xenos767, but you can't see them in the file manager?
[03:00] <vox754> Xenos767, easy!   just boot the live cd, mount the partitions, move the information to the flash drive and then try to fix your machine or reinstall it
[03:00] <jamster545> hey guys i am gonna get a temp D/C while i switch connections
[03:01] <Xenos767> MattJ: they are all in one folder. The problem is not with my USB drive, what happened is my dad restarted the computer in the middle of updating my computer
[03:01] <MattJ> Xenos767, ah, I see
[03:01] <tux_wears_a_tux> Please help.
[03:01] <Xenos767> MattJ: i cant see them in file manager
[03:01] <redDEAD> AlcoholicDoc, i dont know what to tell you. have you tried posting in the ubuntu forums
[03:01] <Pelo> Xenos767,  try this solution  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418688&highlight=usb+cannot+remove+directory
[03:01] <soumou> is anyone availble to answer questions related to installing ubuntu to a 4th hard drive on a system that alreay contains a raid 5 array of win xp
[03:01] <MattJ> Xenos767, so what state is your PC in now?
[03:01] <tux_wears_a_tux> can anyone please help me?
[03:02] <MattJ> tux_wears_a_tux, #ubuntu-effects or #beryl maybe
[03:02] <zamboni> Is there no longer text mode install on Ubuntu 7.04?
[03:02] <Pelo> tux_wears_a_tux, ask in #beryl
[03:02] <kitche> zamboni: the alternate cd
[03:02] <nj786> my printer doesnt print on linux
[03:02] <vox754> soumou, impossible, better get a new PC
[03:02] <MattJ> zamboni, on the alternate CD
[03:02] <soumou> that win xp identifys the 4th hd as a local drive "e" and i want to overwrite the image that is already on it
[03:02] <Pelo> !alternate | zamboni
[03:02] <zamboni> ah sung
[03:02] <ubotu> zamboni: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:02] <redDEAD> tux_wears_a_tux, you gotta tell use whjat you using 1st
[03:02] <Xenos767> MattJ: I can do everything but view my files I think, I just keep on getting a bug buddy thing comming up and I cant use my file viewer at all.
[03:02] <Xenos767> Pelo: there is no problem with my USB
[03:02] <tux_wears_a_tux> redDEAD: I just installed Beryl, but how do I get it to work?
[03:02] <AlcoholicDoc> redDEAD: haven't posted yet.... figured I'd try here first.... Everything I've seen in the forums seems to say the same thing you have said.
[03:03] <BVBBQ> Pelo, thats what it says when i test the alsa
[03:03] <Pelo> Xenos767,  I thought you were talking about a flash drive ?
[03:03] <nj786>  my printer doesnt print on linux
[03:03] <Pelo> BVBBQ,  how do you test your alsa ?
[03:03] <nj786>  my printer doesnt print on linux
[03:03] <nj786>  my printer doesnt print on linux
[03:03] <nestor> hola alguien k hable espenol
[03:03] <nj786>  my printer doesnt print on linux
[03:03] <nj786>  my printer doesnt print on linux
[03:03] <Xenos767> Pelo: no, all the files on my whole computer are unexcessible.
[03:03] <tux_wears_a_tux> I just installed Beryl, but how do I get it to work?
[03:03] <MattJ> Xenos767, ok
[03:03] <soumou> vox: why impossible???
[03:03] <Zelda> isnt there a channel for beaner speaking people?
[03:03] <Pelo> tux_wears_a_tux,  ask in #beryl
[03:03] <redDEAD> AlcoholicDoc, 64 bit version is a douche
[03:03] <kitche> !repeat | nj786
[03:03] <ubotu> nj786: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:03] <BVBBQ> Pelo, you pick one of the drop down lists there and select alsa then hit the test button beside it.
[03:03] <MattJ> Xenos767, can you open Terminal? Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[03:04] <zamboni> And the one thing that I cant seem to get away from: I want to only install on the hdb second drove but ubuntu will always reformat the wasp partition on the hda drive
[03:04] <tux_wears_a_tux> Pelo: ok
[03:04] <Zelda> like #ubuntu-spanish?
[03:04] <Xenos767> MattJ: yes, it is open currently
[03:04] <Pelo> BVBBQ, ah I see
[03:04] <MattJ> Xenos767, if you type ls it will list the files and folders
[03:04] <vox754> soumou, I don't really know! I just wanted to say something, a straight response...
[03:04] <Xenos767> MattJ: should I try using my live CD to open files?
[03:04] <Pelo> !sound > BVBBQ check the you private msg for instrucitons from ubuntu
[03:04] <AlcoholicDoc> redDEAD: LMAO... I figured as much, but the live CD won't boot on my laptop.... maybe it didn't burn correctly or something...
[03:04] <MattJ> Xenos767, that should work, yes
[03:04] <Pelo> !es | Zelda
[03:04] <ubotu> Zelda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:05] <BVBBQ> Pelo, ive already gone through those.
[03:05] <AaronCN> how to install Epson 6100L (laser printer) driver?
[03:05] <Xenos767> MattJ: and I should be able to move my files as well?
[03:05] <zamboni> and third I have lilo slack on the first drive and I dont want to put grub on top of hda any clues?
[03:05] <Zelda> Pelo: I dont speak beaner
[03:05] <MattJ> Xenos767, do make sure that you back everything up before reinstalling
[03:05] <MattJ> Xenos767, Yes
[03:05] <soumou> vox: i have already buitl 2 new servers , but i need to do it on this workstation
[03:05] <BVBBQ> Pelo, im using a tricky card that is designed for laptops but for some reason its onboard on my motherboard.
[03:05] <jamster545_> back
[03:05] <Pelo> BVBBQ,  hmm,  check your users permission that error msg sounded like the system was trying to create a file and couldn't
[03:05] <Taime1> What
[03:05] <Mysticcal> is there a ubuntu command line command that you can view startup programs?
[03:05] <Xenos767> MattJ: do you know a way of backing up a big portion of my files, EG. a vertual drive that I can upload my files to?
[03:06] <redDEAD> AlcoholicDoc, do you use aim? cause i not a fan of irc
[03:06] <BVBBQ> Pelo, when i run aplay it tells me i have no soundcard.
[03:06] <Pelo> Zelda,  what do you mean by beaner ?
[03:06] <zamboni> and third I have lilo booting slack on the first drive and I dont want to put grub on top of hda... any clues?
[03:06] <cafe_> guys, is it possible to copy files over NFS without mounting it?
[03:06] <BVBBQ> Pelo, i think its something to do with HDA sound.
[03:06] <vox754> Zelda, beaner?  is that racism?
[03:06] <AlcoholicDoc> redDEAD: not really, but I can create an account real quick like...
[03:06] <Taime1> What Is The Easiest Way To Get S-video To Work In Ubuntu?
[03:06] <Pelo> BVBBQ, ic,  you'Re sound card isn't getting detected,  now we are taking
[03:06] <Zelda> not if you live in miami.
[03:06] <MattJ> Xenos767, what I do is make a seperate partition for my /home folder
[03:06] <Zelda> its not racist.
[03:06] <jamster545_> i'm booting my linux com to do a tutorial on C++... any tips?
[03:07] <soumou> does anyone other than vox , have an easy solution other than to say "get a new pc?"
[03:07] <BVBBQ> Pelo, this is the third time ive done this. i just cant remember how i did it.
[03:07] <zamboni> and third I have lilo booting slack on the first drive and I dont want to put grub on top of hda... any clues?
[03:07] <Pelo> jamster545,  offtopic,
[03:07] <AaronCN> How to install Epson 6100L laser printer on Ubuntu ? thanks ?
[03:07] <jamster545_> sry
[03:07] <jamster545_> i dont know what the topic is
[03:07] <BVBBQ> Pelo, but i will tell you if we are heading in the right direction if i remember.
[03:07] <jamster545_> i D/C'd for a second
[03:07] <Pelo> BVBBQ,  can you al least remember how you found out how you did it in the first place ?
[03:07] <zamboni> HowTo  have lilo booting slack on the first drive and I dont want to put grub on top of hda... any clues?
[03:07] <Xenos767> MattJ: I would need another hardrive to do that wouldn't I?
[03:07] <kFj> hi... is it possible to setup a network between 2 computers? one running ubuntu installed and one with live cd in it... if yes, then how do i do it.. really new to linux
[03:07] <soumou> jam: are you availble to answer questions related to installing ubuntu to a 4th hard drive on a system that alreay contains a raid 5 array of win xp
[03:08] <rumun> what usenet client do you guys recommend?
[03:08] <Pelo> BVBBQ,  I have no idea how to help you, you'll need to figure it out on your own,  I am no good with hardware issues
[03:08] <jamster545_> ?
[03:08] <BVBBQ> Pelo, my memory is only good for about 2 months. after that my brain gets rid of just about everything.
[03:08] <jamster545_> um... no
[03:08] <soumou> k
[03:08] <bcardarella> Is there a quick way to clear a log file from command line?
[03:08] <BVBBQ> Pelo, thanks for trying anyways.
[03:08] <bcardarella> (without destroying it)
[03:08] <MattJ> Xenos767, no. Partitioning allows you to make more than one virtual drive on the same disk
[03:08] <Pelo> BVBBQ, next time bookmark the page with the instructjions or take notes,    , for now try looking up your soundcard shipset in the forum
[03:08] <zamboni> withoutdestroying it?
[03:09] <Xenos767> MattJ: could you run me through how to do that?
[03:09] <BVBBQ> Pelo, could you atleast tell me how i would go about seeing what version of alsa i have?
[03:09] <bcardarella> zamboni: yeah, I just need to clear it not delete
[03:09] <soumou> who is jamster545_
[03:09] <jamster545_> ?
[03:09] <jamster545_> i didnt have the _ in it before
[03:09] <Pelo> BVBBQ, sorry, I'm fairly new at this myself and I haven'T needed to trouble shoot any hardware,  try the hardware manager in system prefs
[03:10] <soumou> ie. yeah i am a newbie and trying to figure this out
[03:10] <silent_> I just looked at my fstab... wtf is this?? UUID=36c60116-31bf-48e3-a4c6-f04b128fe25c
[03:10] <silent_> what happen?
[03:10] <soumou> and obviously jamster can't help
[03:10] <MattJ> Xenos767, I might not be able to. It is 2AM here :D
[03:10] <Xenos767> ok
[03:10] <vox754> !uuid
[03:10] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:10] <MattJ> Xenos767, I am looking for a guide
[03:10] <MattJ> I am sure there is one
[03:10] <tester> Hello
[03:10] <kitche> silent_: uuid's never change /dev/sdx and such can change
[03:10] <Xenos767> Can someone help me set up a new partion on my hard drive without erasing any files?
[03:11] <vox754> !gparted
[03:11] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:11] <kitche> silent_: for the device that is
[03:11] <WhoKNows> hello, when I rdesktop into my Windows XP virtualbox, I can't get over 16bit color
[03:12] <silent_> how do I configure swap? I had to delete my swap partition and remade the partition and now I have no swap
[03:12] <Pelo> Xenos767,   boot up the live cd,   goto  menu > system > admin > gnome partition editor ,    rezise the partiton that is in the way and make a new one from the unallocated space
[03:12] <Xenos767> Pelo: thanks, ill do that now.
[03:12] <vox754> !swap
[03:12] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[03:12] <Bogaurd> is there an option that can be specified when using mount -t smbfs so that if the host goes down, the connection will be automatically retried?
[03:12] <Pelo> silent_,  sudo gedit /etc/fstab  , change the devtree of the swap partiton
[03:12] <tester> try rdesktop --help to find out how to change that
[03:12] <jamster545_> where can I get a C++ compiler for linux/
[03:13] <linuxnub> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[03:13] <linuxnub> anyone know how to mount lvm2 disks?
[03:13] <mjr> !build-essential | jamster545_
[03:13] <Pelo> jamster545,  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager : use the search feature
[03:13] <ubotu> jamster545_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:13] <BVBBQ> Can someone help me get my sound working again. last update seems to have knocked it out again.
[03:13] <Fivetwentysix> What's the -t of hpfs/ntfs?
[03:13] <silent_> Pelo, do I need to restart?
[03:13] <silent_> it sais it cant find the UUID in fstab
[03:13] <Pelo> silent_,  for the changes to take effect yes
[03:14] <RAOF> linuxnub: Firstly, you need to get your LVM disks recognised by the device-mapper.  Then you just mount the drives you want from /dev/mapper/stuff
[03:14] <zamboni> bcardarella you can use an empty echo  like this: echo > yourfile
[03:14] <RAOF> linuxnub: You don't actually _mount_ LVM discs, is what I'm saying.  What's your actual situation, and why haven't the lvm disks been automatically detected?
[03:15] <MattJ> jamster545_, You might like to try codeblocks, it saves you from the command line :)
[03:15] <sldkfj> jamster545, search for     g++
[03:15] <zamboni> but depends on not having noclopper set
[03:15] <zamboni> no clpbber
[03:15] <zamboni> clobber
[03:15] <Taime1> How Do You Get S-video To Work?
[03:15] <linuxnub> dont know why not detected RAOF
[03:15] <linuxnub> they should have been
[03:15] <Fivetwentysix> What's the -t of hpfs/ntfs?
[03:16] <Fivetwentysix> filesystem
[03:16] <Stoffer> I'm trying to install the mail-notification icon, but I'm getting an error when running ./configure (the version in apt-get is broken).  Can someone here take a look at my configure.log and see what the problem is?  It's telling me up front that maybe gtk+ is installed incorrectly...
[03:16] <linuxnub> its my second hard drive thats not mounting thats the lvm system
[03:16] <Fivetwentysix> How do I mount HPFS/NTFS?
[03:16] <vox754> Fivetwentysix, "man mount"
[03:17] <vox754> !ntfs
[03:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:17] <RAOF> linuxnub: So, do you have anything in /dev/mapper?
[03:17] <Fivetwentysix> vox754 what?
[03:17] <jamster545_> .
[03:17] <linuxnub> no
[03:17] <zamboni> !lilo
[03:17] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[03:17] <zamboni> !grub
[03:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:17] <WhoKNows> hey
[03:17] <linuxnub> there is no /dev/mapper on my system that i can find with slocate
[03:18] <RAOF> linuxnub: Hm.  You might want to try running "sudo /etc/init.d/lvm-common restart"
[03:18] <RAOF> linuxnub: Just "ls /dev/mapper" should work :)
[03:18] <WhoKNows> is there a channel for windows operating systems
[03:18] <Bogaurd> WhoKNows: #windows
[03:18] <kitche> WhoKNows: yes ##windows it's unofficial of course
[03:18] <Taime1> ##windows, actually
[03:18] <linuxnub> k doin it now
[03:18] <Bogaurd> My mistake :P
[03:18] <bruenig> !windows
[03:18] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:18] <zamboni> lol
[03:19] <zamboni> wa wa wa
[03:19] <Stoffer> it says it's unable to find the GTK+ library..... anyone?
[03:19] <bruenig> Stoffer, install some gtk-dev file
[03:19] <WhoKNows> ok because i dont know if anybody knows how to solve this, but remote desktop in windows is only letting me view at 16 bit
[03:19] <linuxnub> sudo: /etc/init.d/lvm-common: command not found
[03:19] <Xenos767> Pelo: I created a new partition and you are positive that I can install a new version of linux on it without over writing/ deleting my existing files?
[03:19] <Taime1> Boguard, a decent irc client would have done it anyway...:)
[03:19] <bruenig> linux_probe, does that exist?
[03:19] <kitche> Stoffer: do you have gtk+ installed is it looking for gtk+ or gtk+2
[03:19] <bruenig> linuxnub, *
[03:19] <linuxnub> ls: /dev/mapper: No such file or directory
[03:19] <Fivetwentysix> Grr How do i mount HTFS/NTFS with the terminal command MOUNT
[03:19] <Fivetwentysix> It says i need a type
[03:19] <Fivetwentysix> what is the type?
[03:19] <bruenig> Fivetwentysix, -t ntfs
[03:19] <zamboni> -t
[03:20] <zamboni> -t ntfs
[03:20] <zamboni> -o ro
[03:20] <linuxnub> you sure these things are default in fiesty?
[03:20] <Fivetwentysix> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
[03:20] <Fivetwentysix>        missing codepage or other error
[03:20] <Fivetwentysix>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:20] <Fivetwentysix>        dmesg | tail  or so
[03:20] <Fivetwentysix> When using -t ntfs
[03:20] <linuxnub> i never installed lvm
[03:20] <Stoffer> kitche, not sure
[03:20] <sldkfj> Taime1, s-video??   try adding an s-video option in the device section
[03:20] <soumou> is anyone else available to answer the above plea for help without the "go buy a new pc" response that Samurai Lord. Emperor Jeffery aka jamster replied with?
[03:20] <Xenos767> I created a new partition, can I install a new version of linux on it without over writing/ deleting my existing files?
[03:20] <Stoffer> kitche, it's saying it can't find GTK+
[03:20] <linuxnub> lvm is on my OTHER drive running a different distro
[03:20] <RAOF> linuxnub: Eeep.  Those things are installed by default, I think.
[03:20] <bruenig> Fivetwentysix, bad superblock maybe
[03:20] <vox754> Fivetwentysix, read "man mount" you may need additional options
[03:21] <RAOF> linuxnub: You can, of course, try installing the "lvm2" package :)
[03:21] <kitche> Stoffer: it should say the version it's looking for someplace also
[03:21] <bensode> Any opinions for gaming with Nv or propprietary Nvidia drivers?
[03:21] <vox754> Xenos767, yes.Upon installation don't tell it to format the other partitions you wish to preserve
[03:21] <linuxnub> ya the sudo find / -name lvm is coming up empty too
[03:21] <Xenos767> !upgrade
[03:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:21] <silent_> Still dont have swap, partition exists, I used the UUID from blkid in fstab... no swap is mounted
[03:21] <soumou> i am simply looking for a real person to ask real ubuntu questions to and i thought that this would be the appropriate forum to do so
[03:22] <zamboni> soumon like it says  in te  topic keep asking
[03:22] <jamster545_> dang... i am having trouble finding linux compilers
[03:22] <soumou> zam: thx for the helpful repy
[03:22] <vox754> soumou, sorry, but some problems are out of our reach, keep asking every 15 minutes
[03:22] <bensode> jamster545_,  did you install build-essentials package?
[03:22] <Stoffer> kitche, I can't find it in the error log, but here's the configure.log output:  http://pastebin.ca/515053
[03:22] <zamboni> the right person may show up
[03:23] <jamster545_> no and i followed the instructions to on ubuntu support but it couldnt find the packeage
[03:23] <sldkfj> jamster545_, run in a terminal:   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:23] <jamster545_> i did that