[00:25] <Guest4966> Hi, I have one question. Why wouldn't Ubuntu Studio come with pulse audio equalizer?
[00:25] <Guest4966> I only have pulse audio volume control.
[00:43] <bootp> Ahoy, just took the plunge.. I tried a few other distros on this older machine and they were too slow..
[00:44] <bootp> So far I really like ubuntustudio
[00:44] <bootp> I thought I would jump by and ask if there is anything I should be aware of running this OS. .  Any gotchas??


[00:44] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: I'm still struggling to make it work, can't seem to find a solution
[00:55] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: I can see the comments template is not being called, when you check the source code of the main page
[01:51] <jcastro> imbrandon: ping
[01:51] <imbrandon> pong
[01:52] <jcastro> I don't think it's that APC thing
[01:52] <jcastro> how do I flush it?
[01:52] <jcastro> I can check
[01:52] <imbrandon> easwy way is to restart php-fpm/nginx
[01:52] <imbrandon> easy*
[01:52] <jcastro> I restarted nginx
[01:52] <jcastro> do I need to restart php-fpm?
[01:52] <imbrandon> service php5-fpm restart
[01:52] <imbrandon> yea
[01:53] <imbrandon> then check for /etc/php5/fpm/conf.d/*apc.ini
[01:53] <imbrandon> and make sure stat=1 not 0
[01:53] <imbrandon> to not have to do that in the future
[01:53] <jcastro> it's at 1
[01:54] <jcastro> the comments work on the site, just not on this page
[01:54] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah
[01:54] <jcastro> so I am pretty sure it's not a system problem
[01:54] <imbrandon> ohhhh ok
[01:54] <imbrandon> i misunderstood the issue then
[01:54] <JoseeAntonioR> the function is not called in what's known as 'static pages', but they work in posts
[01:54] <imbrandon> he said edited the file and the changes dident show
[01:54] <jcastro> yeah
[01:54] <jcastro> I added the php function just like we did on the last one
[01:54] <jcastro> except it doesn't show up
[01:55] <imbrandon> ok lets step backwards, i'm not sure whats up
[01:55] <jcastro> don't worry about it, we'll just change it to a redirect to the G+ page or youtube tomorrow
[01:56]  * imbrandon doesnt even konw the issue, but editing page.php is almost garenteed the wrong solution
[01:56] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: is there any way to try installing a test page with the downloaded wordpress instead of juju? that was a suggestion in #wordpress
[01:56] <JoseeAntonioR> maybe /var/www/wptest
[01:56] <jcastro> it is the downloaded version of wordpress
[01:56] <JoseeAntonioR> oh
[01:56] <jcastro> http://ubuntuonair.com/test-2/
[01:57] <jcastro> they work fine on posts
[01:57] <jcastro> just not /pages/
[01:57] <imbrandon> its the same wordpress JoseeAntonioR
[01:57] <JoseeAntonioR> imbrandon: people in #wordpress disagree, but I do think the same
[01:57] <imbrandon> jcastro: what do comments ? are comments for pages turned on in the cp ?
[01:57] <JoseeAntonioR> wait a sec, what about pulling the code from that page's source?
[01:58] <imbrandon> JoseeAntonioR: look at the charm it wgets it from wordpress.org
[01:58] <imbrandon> OMG!!!!
[01:58] <imbrandon> slow down
[01:58] <imbrandon> wtf is the problem
[01:58] <jcastro> the comments don't show up on the page
[01:58] <jcastro> only posts.
[01:58] <JoseeAntonioR> imbrandon: comments only show in posts
[01:58] <imbrandon> are they turned on for pages
[01:58] <imbrandon> in the wp control pannel
[01:58] <jcastro> looking through the options now
[01:58] <imbrandon> when you make a page
[01:58] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, they are
[01:59] <JoseeAntonioR> in the discussion tab
[01:59] <imbrandon> ther is an option to allow commetts for that page
[02:00] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: let me know once you finish editing the page so I can go on and try one thing
[02:00] <jcastro> I'm not editing anything
[02:00] <jcastro> go for it
[02:01] <imbrandon> comments are working fine it seems
[02:01] <imbrandon> i see 2 fromjorge
[02:01] <jcastro> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[02:01] <jcastro> not on the page
[02:01] <jcastro> not posts, I know posts work
[02:02] <imbrandon> oh then just open that page in the cpl and turn them on
[02:02] <imbrandon> when your editing the page , top right area should have discussion on/off iirc
[02:03] <jcastro> there isn't anything up there for that
[02:03] <jcastro> OMG
[02:03] <jcastro> screen options!
[02:03] <imbrandon> ??
[02:03] <jcastro> ah bummer
[02:03] <jcastro> didn't do anything
[02:03] <imbrandon> heh
[02:03] <imbrandon> one sec lemme look at another install, btw the theme needs to support them as well
[02:04] <jcastro> we put them in the theme
[02:04] <jcastro> in page.php
[02:04] <imbrandon> k
[02:05] <jcastro> anyway whatever
[02:05] <jcastro> this isn't worth fixing, let's just plop a redirect in there tomorrow JoseeAntonioR
[02:06] <JoseeAntonioR> are you sure?
[02:06] <jcastro> yeah
[02:06] <jcastro> this went from being a simple hangout to overengineered
[02:06] <jcastro> we can just hang out on G+
[02:06] <jcastro> that's the whole point, everything else is just extra work for no benefit
[02:07] <jcastro> we'll just redirect it to youtube like 5 minutes before
[02:08] <imbrandon> http://en.support.wordpress.com/enable-disable-comments/
[02:08] <JoseeAntonioR> got it
[02:08] <imbrandon> ^^ step by step how to do it
[02:08] <jcastro> those are wp comments not disqus comments
[02:08] <imbrandon> same thing, discuss runs off the wp ones
[02:08] <jcastro> well it doesn't work
[02:08] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: yes, disqus just replace wordpress comments
[02:09] <jcastro> ok going to bed now
[02:09] <jcastro> we'll just plop a redirect in tomorrow
[02:09] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: ok, see you tomorrow, I'll be here 15-30 mins before
[02:09] <jcastro> from now on we should just use the G+ page for the "homepage"
[02:10] <imbrandon> ... we should just do the shit right or not at all ...
[02:10]  * imbrandon grumbles and goes back to work
[02:10] <jcastro> we're not doing it at all
[02:10] <jcastro> that's what I am saying
[02:10] <imbrandon> i know
[02:10]  * imbrandon agreed
[02:11] <jcastro> it was working on the old one, something happened when we switched dns, shrug
[02:11] <jcastro> we should just ask for hangout.ubuntu.com to point to the G+ page
[02:11] <jcastro> problem solved forever
[02:11] <JoseeAntonioR> yay
[02:11] <imbrandon> its using the wrong theme anyhow
[02:11] <JoseeAntonioR> imbrandon: huh?
[02:11] <JoseeAntonioR> what about that?
[02:11] <imbrandon> the wp theme, its not the ubuntu wp theme
[02:12] <JoseeAntonioR> imbrandon: do you know where can I find the right one?
[02:12] <imbrandon> LP
[02:12] <imbrandon> lp:ubuntu-community-webthemes/wordpress-light irrc
[02:12] <imbrandon> iirc
[02:13] <imbrandon> gnight jcastro /me heads to sleep too, JoseeAntonioR if you need a hand tomarrow with it lemme know
[02:13] <JoseeAntonioR> great, thanks!
[02:27] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: problem solved
[02:29] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: for when you come back, I have now embedded the discussion widget, it's easier, and doesn't need any configuration (just copying/pasting))
[02:29] <jcastro> oh nice!
[02:29] <jcastro> what was the problem?
[02:30]  * jcastro decides not to look a gifthorse in the mouth and just roll with it
[02:30] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: not sure about that, but we're not using the disqus plugin, just an embedded code I found for the ubuntuonair.com widget in disqus.com
[04:52] <bkerensa> jcastro: I'm getting a Sputnik ;p
[05:28] <philballew> bkerensa, I assume your paying full price?
[05:48] <bkerensa> philballew: lol no man ;)
[05:51]  * philballew still rocks a d-630
[05:52] <philballew> bkerensa, Im sure your gonna have some fun with that.
[05:56] <philballew> bkerensa, idea for all your projects here. Power your laptop via your volt, that then is hooked up to your micro-controller that is controlling your soda-stream. Its a full proof plan if you can get the right resistors and a big enough bread board for the volt to dell hook up
[05:57] <bkerensa> ;p
[09:38] <czajkowski> cjohnston: ping me when you're online
[10:11] <cjohnston> czajkowski: ping
[10:16] <czajkowski> pleia2: can you give me any examples of womens OSS tshirts that have nice designs not just plonking an image ont he front of a top in large area
[10:16] <czajkowski> am working with some people to give them nice examples of womens OSS tops to see if we can improve the Ubuntu womens one
[13:59] <mcclurmc> does anyone know where the next UDS is going to be held?
[14:07] <mhall119> jcastro: can anybody join your on-air thing?
[14:09] <czajkowski> mcclurmc: it's not annouced yet
[14:09] <mcclurmc> thanks, czajkowski
[14:09] <czajkowski> ah lovley google hangouts messed up today
[14:09] <jcastro> mhall119: sure, wanna plop in?
[14:13] <mhall119> yeah, when does it start?
[14:14] <mhall119> nvm, found it
[14:14] <mhall119> yeah, I'll join
[14:20] <jcastro> get the appdev #'s handy. :)
[14:22] <jono> jcastro, can I join?
[14:22] <mhall119> jcastro: always handy :)
[14:22] <jcastro> for sure!
[14:22] <mhall119> (not always encouraging)
[14:23] <mhall119> jono: did you see Steve's email reply?
[14:23] <jcastro> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[14:23] <jcastro> man
[14:23] <jcastro> look at this guest list.
[14:23] <mhall119> jcastro: that is a nice lineup
[14:23] <jcastro> all of these are the _hot_ topics in ubuntu right now
[14:23] <jcastro> secure boot, webapps, appdevs, hardware support, quality.
[14:24] <jono> jcastro, which URL?
[14:24] <jcastro> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[14:24] <jono> jcastro, which hangout URL so I can join?
[14:25] <jcastro> oh, I am not sure yet.
[14:25] <jono> jcastro, oh, I thought it was running now
[14:25] <jono> my bad
[14:25] <mhall119> it's on-air, so there isn't a pre-made url
[14:25] <jcastro> I think josee starts it, sec, let me check the wiki page
[14:25] <mhall119> unless google has improved that
[14:25] <jono> mhall119, I meant the URL to join the hangout
[14:25] <jcastro> jono: nope, but if you want to join like 5 min early I have some ideas for an intro if you want to kick it off, maybe intro Barton or something, I'd like to get him done first
[14:25] <mhall119> jcastro: is it using hangouts, or that other thing someone suggested?
[14:26] <jcastro> mhall119: hangouts, we'll  have a hangout, this page will be the youtube thing embedded
[14:26] <mhall119> ok
[14:26] <jcastro> and the comments will be on this page
[14:26] <jono> jcastro, oh damn, I will be in a meeting
[14:26] <jono> I will join after the first hour
[14:26] <jcastro> it's 2 hours
[14:26] <jcastro> you can drop in and out
[14:26] <jcastro> it's no big deal
[14:26] <jono> cool
[14:27] <jcastro> we have more people than slots anyway
[14:27] <jono> mhall119, want to do a hangout now?
[14:27] <jcastro> so it'll be "hey we're joined by foo", we hang with the person for like 15 minutes, when they close out they just drop off.
[14:27] <jono> cool
[14:27] <mhall119> jono: if you give me a few minutes, sure
[14:28] <jono> mhall119, np
[14:28] <czajkowski> jcastro: hangouts are very broken today, hope it works for you guys
[14:28] <jcastro> it looks like gtalk is hosed too
[14:28] <czajkowski> have had to use skype for the last few meetings today as nobody can get hangout to work
[14:29] <jcastro> we have like 3 hours.
[14:29] <jcastro> we'll see what the Google does.
[14:29] <czajkowski> jcastro: http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en&v=issue&ts=1343343599000&iid=a6fb32beebebf8e85b0c986b09a4e69d
[14:31] <jcastro> just my kind of day
[14:32] <czajkowski> jcastro: at least they are updating the page, we were very lost this morning uk time trying to wrk out what was  going wrong
[14:32] <jcastro> heh
[14:38] <mhall119> jono: ready
[14:40] <jcastro> mhall119: jono: follow this account pls: https://plus.google.com/113179255019669411234/posts
[14:40] <mhall119> jono: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/cc40a57827ef2b84456aea155e9b7dc05a4ff401?authuser=0&hl=en
[14:40] <jono> mhall119, cool, wrapping a convo, will be there soon
[14:49] <jono> mhall119, sorry for the delay, joining now
[15:16] <mhall119> jono: ok, off my call if you want jump back on
[15:16] <mhall119> well, on a new hangout, since I closed the last one
[15:18] <jono> mhall119, give me a min and I will join
[15:18] <jcastro> hey bkerensa
[15:19] <mhall119> jono: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/706c480540e8abda8837f15d0f4baecf0a1b6334?authuser=0&hl=en when you're ready
[15:23] <bkerensa> jcastro: hey
[15:23] <jcastro> hey so next time you talk to subway guys, ask about webapp support
[15:23] <jcastro> that would be awesome in subway
[15:24] <bkerensa> jcastro: I will ask
[15:24] <jono> mhall119, joining now
[15:24] <bkerensa> jcastro: do we have a widget snippet for todays hangout so I can have this on OMG too?
[15:25] <jcastro> You can steal the one we'll put on ubuntuonair.com
[15:25] <jcastro> I'll ask JoseeAntonioR what it is when he gets here
[15:26] <nhandler> jcastro: Can you also remind him to add it to the Ubuntu On Air google calendar?
[15:27] <jcastro> We don't need a calendar, I just put it on the fridge calendar
[15:28] <nhandler> jcastro: You have one already (he created it). It is used for updating the #ubuntu-on-air channel
[15:28] <jcastro> yeah but we don't need that
[15:28] <jcastro> we're just going to do the hangout
[15:29] <nhandler> So you guys are completely scrapping #ubuntu-on-air and AirBot? It would have been nice if someone had let me and/or pleia2 know (no point running a bot if it isn't getting used)
[15:30] <jcastro> I don't even know why we had a bot
[15:30] <jcastro> but yeah, we don't need that, people are going to ask questions on the page
[15:31] <jcastro> sorry for the mixup
[15:31] <bkerensa> jcastro: ok well have someone ping me with the air widget like by 16-17 UTC so I can have a post scheduled
[15:31] <jcastro> bkerensa: I was thinking/hoping to have it an hour before
[15:31] <jcastro> bkerensa: I sent joey a mail about the onair thing but got no response
[15:32] <bkerensa> jcastro: just come to me :P
[15:35] <bkerensa> jcastro: what are the topics that will be discussed today?
[15:35] <jcastro> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[15:35] <jcastro> scroll down
[15:35] <jcastro> I put everything there
[15:35] <jcastro> and we have disqus on there for questions, etc.
[15:42] <bkerensa> excellent got the post pre-baked so all we need is the widget when Josee drop in
[15:42] <popey> widget?
[15:43] <bkerensa> popey: the youtube air widget we will need to embed on OMG as well unless we want to just direct everyone to ubuntuonair?
[15:44] <popey> ah
[15:44] <jcastro> I would just redirect everyone
[15:45] <jcastro> if it's embedded on omg people will start to ask questions there
[15:45] <popey> +1
[15:45] <jcastro> but we did take questions from multiple sources last time
[15:45] <jcastro> so shrug
[15:45] <jcastro> probably what popey says
[15:46] <popey> embedding means more eyeballs
[15:46] <popey> which is always nice
[15:46] <jcastro> true
[15:46] <popey> and bkerensa could always collate the questions for us :)
[15:46] <jcastro> either way is fine I think
[15:46] <jcastro> yeah
[15:46] <jcastro> we did well doing like a bunch of sources last time
[15:46] <popey> I'm sure it'll be fine :)
[15:47] <jcastro> we have popey, how can we fail?
[15:47] <popey> i have a conf call when the hangout starts :(
[15:47] <popey> so will have to join in later
[15:47] <jcastro> no worries
[15:47] <bkerensa> yeah I can gather questions
[15:47] <bkerensa> and pop them into the hangout chat
[15:47] <bkerensa> like last time?
[15:48] <bkerensa> and occasionally if it gets busy I'll ask them
[15:48] <bkerensa> jcastro: I have to meet with chevy at 11am
[15:48] <bkerensa> :D
[15:48] <bkerensa> so I will be like 4 mins late
[15:49] <jcastro> no worries
[15:49] <jcastro> I grew up on Chevys
[15:49] <jcastro> never again
[15:49] <bkerensa> LOL
[16:23] <czajkowski> bit of a day for tech fail, first G+ and not twitter, https://plus.google.com/photos/102921374554385564572/albums/5769514005080350961/5769514006937644354
[16:24] <pleia2> nice
[16:24] <czajkowski> *now even
[16:25] <jcastro> bkerensa: ah, so you're the reason my google analytics just blew up, heh
[16:26] <bkerensa> jcastro: yeah it was better to space by more then a hour to give enough time for google indexing
[16:26] <jcastro> good point
[16:26] <bkerensa> and give more people time to fit it in their schedule
[16:26] <jcastro> next time I'll ping you directly instead of pinging joey
[16:27] <jcastro> for the few-days-before reminder
[16:27] <bkerensa> yeah
[16:27] <bkerensa> :D
[16:28] <bkerensa> jcastro: bump -> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/x72fe/ubuntu_on_air_youre_questions_answered/
[16:28] <jcastro> bkerensa: can you edit the title with the time?
[16:28] <jcastro> I posted it on the subreddit already
[16:28] <bkerensa> yes
[16:28] <bkerensa> how would u like it to look?
[16:29] <jcastro> "in 1.5 hours!" or something
[16:30] <jcastro> is there a way to announce something on irc channels without being rude?
[16:30] <jcastro> like, announce the thing on IRC channels
[16:30] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: can you edit the title to say your?
[16:30] <jcastro> hah
[16:30] <bkerensa> marcoceppi: it does
[16:30] <bkerensa> ?
[16:30] <jcastro> YOur
[16:30] <jcastro> not You are "you're"
[16:31] <jcastro> oh nice, I see you caught it. caching!
[16:31] <bkerensa> it says "Your"
[16:31] <bkerensa> heh
[16:31] <bkerensa> maybe the wrong revision got posted =/
[16:32] <jcastro> reddit is still wrong though
[16:32] <bkerensa> huh
[16:35] <jcastro> marcoceppi: imbrandon: the instance isn't even breaking a sweat.
[16:36] <bkerensa> jcastro: how many concurrent visitors?
[16:36] <jcastro> ~25 for about the last 5 minutes
[16:37] <bkerensa> lol
[16:37] <bkerensa> :P
[16:37] <bkerensa> if a instance broke a sweat over 25 users I would be concerned
[16:37] <jcastro> we blitzed it the other day, etc.
[16:37] <jcastro> yeah, I am just saying, we're going to sail through this. knock on wood.
[16:38] <jcastro> looks like some people caught your grammar mistake, heh
[16:39] <bkerensa> huh... I remember when boxes with 453Mhz and 512MB ram could handle thousands without crippling
[16:39] <bkerensa> ;p
[16:39] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: Plain-text was a good time for computing
[16:39] <bkerensa> marcoceppi: lol this was PHP actually
[16:39] <bkerensa> ;p
[16:40] <bkerensa> Cobalt RaQ 4's were 453 MHz
[16:40] <jcastro> bkerensa: feel free to wail on the instance if you want to give it a run through
[16:40] <bkerensa> LOL
[16:40] <bkerensa> on the ubuntuonair.com one or omg?
[16:40] <bkerensa> :)
[16:40] <pleia2> bkerensa: and they ran colbalt linux, which was swiss cheesy with security vulnerabilities - those were the days! :P
[16:40] <jcastro> onair
[16:41] <bkerensa> pleia2: indeed... I remember hosting like 20 sites on one of those swiss cheese boxes
[16:41] <bkerensa> :D
[16:42] <jcastro> weak, I was expecting a swarm from omg
[16:42] <jcastro> I'll post it on the facebook page at the top of the hour
[16:45] <bkerensa> jcastro: how is that instance feeling?
[16:45] <marcoceppi> light and fluffy
[16:45] <jcastro> .1 load
[16:45] <bkerensa> heh
[16:45] <jcastro> hah, this reminds me of Airplane!
[16:45] <bkerensa> I'm maxing out my uplink
[16:45] <bkerensa> =/
[16:45] <jcastro> "How's she feeling?" "Sluggish"
[16:46] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: are you siegeing?
[16:46] <bkerensa> you guys are down now
[16:46] <bkerensa> ;p
[16:46] <bkerensa> 100% packet loss from all WatchMouse locations
[16:46] <bkerensa> :D
[16:46] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: loads fine here
[16:47] <bkerensa> Singapore, Singapore: 	Packets lost (100%) 				<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:47] <bkerensa>  Amsterdam2, Netherlands: 	Packets lost (100%) 				<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:47] <bkerensa>  Florida, U.S.A.: 	Packets lost (100%) 				<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:47] <bkerensa>  Amsterdam3, Netherlands: 	Packets lost (100%) 				<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:47] <bkerensa>  Hong Kong, China: 	Packets lost (100%) 				<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:47] <bkerensa> =/
[16:47] <bkerensa> firewall?
[16:47] <jcastro> works for me
[16:47] <marcoceppi> probably Amazon doing something?
[16:47] <jcastro> it's on HP
[16:47] <marcoceppi> s/Amazon/HP/
[16:47] <jcastro> maybe he tripped something?
[16:48]  * marcoceppi *shrug*
[16:50] <bkerensa> load is still low?
[16:50] <marcoceppi> yeah
[16:50] <marcoceppi> 0.06
[16:50] <bkerensa> 2x Siege with each 100 users simulated + LoadImpact + HostTracker Bomb
[16:50] <bkerensa> =/
[16:50] <bkerensa> weak sauce
[16:50] <marcoceppi> so sorry
[16:51] <jcastro> bkerensa: can you test a hangout?
[16:51] <jcastro> I'm getting "Hangouts on Air! not available"
[16:51] <jcastro> and then a try again later.
[16:52] <popey> jcastro, testing one now
[16:52] <popey> invited you
[16:53] <bkerensa> jcastro: apparently google has been having issues this morning?
[16:53] <jcastro> it works for popey
[16:56] <jcastro> popey: nope, not available for me
[16:56] <popey> how odd
[16:56] <popey> wonder if it's a regional thing
[16:56] <jcastro> no worries, we'll just have ben or jose fire it up when ready
[16:56] <popey> ok
[16:56] <popey> well I will be at my pc, if you need me to start it
[16:56] <popey> just ping me, I will be looking at this channel
[16:56] <IdleOne> hangouts working here also
[16:57] <bkerensa> jcastro: u going to use lower third?
[16:57] <popey> in ~50 mins right?
[16:57] <jcastro> lower third? the title thing? sure if you want
[16:57] <jcastro> yeah so let's fire it up ~20 minutes before
[16:57] <jcastro> I asked Barton to join us early too
[16:57] <jcastro> so we can get him acclimated
[16:58] <bkerensa> ok
[16:59] <bkerensa> jcastro: I will fire it up 20 mins till
[16:59] <bkerensa> then walk away and come back
[16:59] <jcastro> popey says it has detection though
[16:59] <jcastro> so if you bail bail it will drop it
[16:59]  * snap-l saw ball bail, and wasn't sure what that was.
[17:00] <jcastro> like not just bail, but BAIL
[17:00] <snap-l> post bail bail?
[17:00] <bkerensa> jcastro: btw HP got me sorted
[17:00] <bkerensa> :D
[17:00] <snap-l> or pale pale pail bail
[17:00] <jcastro> bkerensa: good to hear!
[17:00] <bkerensa> has detection?
[17:00] <bkerensa> since when
[17:01] <jcastro> that's what popey says
[17:01] <jcastro> I think it prompts you with "are you still here?" or something
[17:01] <snap-l> Google has implemented butt in seat detection. :)
[17:01] <snap-l> Yeah, it'll detect if you haven't said something in a few minutes
[17:02] <snap-l> and prompt you if you're still alive
[17:02] <snap-l> Had that during a hangout once
[17:08] <jono> bkerensa, you free for a short chat?
[17:09] <bkerensa> jono: sure via what medium?
[17:09] <jono> bkerensa, G+ work?
[17:09] <bkerensa> sure
[17:09] <jono> let me set it up
[17:09] <jono> bkerensa, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/506e199b216effdabbc3b5eea344ab96f1ab8c62?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[17:12] <popey> it detects if you dont move your mouse or touch the bk
[17:12] <popey> and pops up a box asking if you're still there
[17:12] <popey> if you don't see and then click it, it shuts the hangout down
[17:25] <jcastro> bkerensa: ok so I'm thinking, barton, langasek, vanhoof in that order to start off with?
[17:25] <jcastro> ~15 min or so each? unless there's pure gold there ... :)
[17:25] <jcastro> I told vanhoof to do exactly what he did last time, which was a bunch of awesomeness about working with hw vendors, etc, I think it's worth repeating all that imo
[17:25] <bkerensa> jcastro: sounds good.... I think there is lots of gold in slangasek but perhaps I am biased since he is a local
[17:25] <bkerensa> ;)
[17:26] <popey> people are rocking up in #ubuntu-on-air
[17:26] <popey> on irc
[17:28] <bkerensa> jcastro: going to FB it on Ubuntu and Tweeet?
[17:29] <jcastro> twitter is still down for me
[17:29] <jcastro> I'll facebook it now
[17:29] <snap-l> facebook it?
[17:30] <snap-l> Let me verbify that for you.
[17:30] <bkerensa> twitter is up for me
[17:30] <bkerensa> jcastro: when did u wanna fire this up?
[17:30] <jcastro> ~10m?
[17:31] <bkerensa> copy that
[17:31] <jcastro> I have to wrap up like a few more things
[17:31] <jcastro> or fire it up now and I'll join you guys in 10
[17:31] <bkerensa> just to clarify I will have to walk to my front door for one minute or two to hand keys to someone
[17:31] <bkerensa> :D
[17:31] <bkerensa> wait
[17:31] <bkerensa> uhh doesnt Josee have to do it since he setup the widget?
[17:32] <jcastro> we can modify the page to point to the right place
[17:32] <jcastro> when you do it it'll put the url to embed in the thing
[17:33] <bkerensa> kk
[17:37] <bkerensa> jcastro: snippet http://paste.ubuntu.com/1112323/
[17:37] <jcastro> ack
[17:38] <bkerensa> ack?
[17:38] <jcastro> acknowledged
[17:38] <bkerensa> kk
[17:41] <bkerensa> jcastro: solution to the idle check... Greasemonkey script :D
[17:41] <jcastro> heh
[17:43]  * popey switches machines
[17:43] <jcastro> http://design.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/logo-ubuntu_cof-orange-hex.png
[17:49] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: here
[17:49] <jcastro> rock
[17:49] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: ben and I are hanging out now
[17:49] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: from the uonair plus profile?
[17:49] <JoseeAntonioR> if not, I can create the hangout
[17:50] <jcastro> no we just made one
[17:50] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, one sec
[17:50] <jcastro> and we were going to change the URL on the site
[17:51]  * popey waves
[17:52] <popey> i was invited but then the invite disappeared
[17:52] <jcastro> ben is just going to paste the url
[17:52] <bkerensa> http://youtu.be/mUSI4E2Wm80
[17:52] <JoseeAntonioR> erm, that won't be stored in the ubuntonair channel
[17:52] <jcastro> ok wait
[17:52] <jcastro> another hangout just showed up
[17:52] <jcastro> on G+
[17:52] <JoseeAntonioR> yes, that's from the ubuntu on air profile
[17:53] <JoseeAntonioR> so that the videos are stored in the /ubuntonair channel
[17:53] <jcastro> Ah ok
[17:53] <jcastro> we're joining in
[17:53] <jcastro> what URL do I give speakers?
[17:53] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: whats the link man?
[17:54] <JoseeAntonioR> http://www.youtube.com/vRegWI99TS0
[17:54] <bkerensa> no
[17:54] <jcastro> http://design.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/logo-ubuntu_cof-orange-hex.png
[17:54] <bkerensa> for the hangout
[17:54] <jcastro> there's the logo for the title thing
[17:54] <bkerensa> jcastro: can u invite me in
[17:55] <JoseeAntonioR> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/2f0dc2e079d14ec9f246c0e3a2b358e94c702989?authuser=3&hl=en#
[17:55] <popey> nice, chrome blew up
[17:56] <czajkowski> its been rather ill all day
[17:58] <jcastro> http://www.youtube.com/vRegWI99TS0
[17:58] <SergioMeneses> hello guys!
[17:59] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: invite<EMAIL_ADDRESS>directly please
[18:00] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; where is ubuntu on air being done?
[18:01] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: that link doesnt work
[18:01] <bkerensa> I dont think were live yet
[18:02] <JoseeAntonioR> bkerensa: we have 13 viewers
[18:02] <bkerensa> yes but the live link is not working
[18:02] <bkerensa> http://www.youtube.com/vRegWI99TS0
[18:02] <bkerensa> can u pastebin the widget please
[18:02] <bkerensa> its under embed
[18:02] <JoseeAntonioR> <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vRegWI99TS0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
[18:03] <MrChrisDruif> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRegWI99TS0 <= for viewing in Youtube
[18:04] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: I can't seem to be able to enable comments, one sec
[18:04] <jcastro> bkerensa: mute if you are typing
[18:05] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: if we can't figure it out, link to OMG
[18:05] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, onse sec
[18:05] <jcastro> just link to the omg comments
[18:05] <bkerensa> jcastro: I have been muted this whole time
[18:05] <jcastro> someone needs to mute!
[18:05] <jcastro> they work!
[18:06] <mhall119> jcastro: how can I join?
[18:06] <JoseeAntonioR> YAY!
[18:08] <MrChrisDruif> Where's the hangout? ;-)
[18:08] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: http://ubuntuonair.com/
[18:09] <jcastro> someone invite mhall
[18:09] <jcastro> and langasek
[18:09] <jcastro> I don't have time to do IRC and ask barton questions. :)
[18:10] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: can u invite mhall119
[18:10] <JoseeAntonioR> done
[18:10] <bkerensa> kk
[18:10] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: are comments enabled on ubuntuonair.com yet?
[18:11] <JoseeAntonioR> yes
[18:15] <popey> lots of chatter in #ubuntu-on-air
[18:15] <popey> maybe put the link in the channel?
[18:15] <bkerensa> yeah
[18:16] <popey> i dont have ops
[18:16] <JoseeAntonioR> one sec
[18:27] <JoseeAntonioR> someone's breathing and not muted :P
[18:28] <jcastro> who is breathing loud?
[18:28] <ogasawara> jcastro: can you hit me with the link to the hangout
[18:28] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: ^^
[18:28] <JoseeAntonioR> done
[18:29] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; can you put the current speaker on main stage?
[18:29] <MrChrisDruif> Nvm..
[18:29] <ogasawara> hrm, /me is having trouble joining the hangout...
[18:30] <SergioMeneses> MrChrisDruif, the host can do it
[18:30] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, I guess
[18:30] <MrChrisDruif> SergioMeneses; Jorge is one of the hosts ;-)
[18:31] <SergioMeneses> sure
[18:33] <jono> imbrandon, can you join #ubuntu-meeting ?
[18:54] <czajkowski> whats the clicking on the on air
[18:54] <czajkowski> really cant hear Robert :/
[18:54] <czajkowski> shame
[18:55] <MrChrisDruif> He's finally audible
[18:55] <czajkowski> aye!
[18:56] <czajkowski> rather up close and personal view but at least I can hear him :)
[18:58] <SergioMeneses> mmm.... I have to work I'll let xchat on
[19:03] <jono> jcastro, can I join?
[19:03] <jcastro> someone invite jono
[19:03] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: ^^
[19:03] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll invite him
[19:04] <JoseeAntonioR> done
[19:22]  * ogasawara has to drop off ubuntu on air, thanks guys!
[19:23] <jcastro> thanks!
[19:58] <jono> jcastro, bkerensa, JoseeAntonioR, mhall119 good work
[19:58]  * jono lunches
[19:59] <jcastro> woo
[19:59] <bkerensa> damn I need lunch soon
[20:01] <marcoceppi> HP Cloud, 2012-07-26 16:01:14,716 ERROR 'MachineProvider' object has no attribute '_cached_contraint' ? during a deploy
[20:01] <marcoceppi> Wrong room
[20:03] <JoseeAntonioR> yay, we're done
[20:05] <jcastro> let's keep the site running over the weekend
[20:05] <jcastro> and then switch to popey's thing at the end?
[20:05] <jcastro> then we'll sort something more solid for next time
[20:05] <popey> fine by me
[20:05] <popey> just copy the page / content over
[20:06] <bkerensa> jcastro: Sergio from Ubuntu-CO had a great idea... Ubuntu on Air Espanol!
[20:06] <bkerensa> :D
[20:15] <JoseeAntonioR> I discussed that long ago with Dante from Ubuntu-PE and him
[20:17] <JoseeAntonioR> video is now up
[21:44] <SergioMeneses> hello guys!


[10:19] <davmor2> I CAN HAZ AN INSTALL \o/
[10:19] <davmor2> Now to try with 3rd party drivers installed checked
[19:44] <wxl> we should change the "passed with no bugs" button to say "testcase succeeded" XD
[19:45] <flocculant> well
[19:46] <flocculant> I guess the thing is how pragmatic people are
[19:47] <flocculant> vbox should cause a testcase to fail shouldn't it
[19:47] <flocculant> but people pass the test because vbox
[19:49] <wxl> i meant more that there's nothing that has no bugs!
[19:49] <flocculant> yea
[19:49] <flocculant> but then if it has bugs - testcase didn't succeed :p
[19:50] <wxl> what if the bug is that the slideshow is out of date? XD
[19:50] <flocculant> the trouble I have mostly is people add their pet bugs to the tracker - when a testcase doesn't even come anywhere close to even thinking about the possibility of asking about *it*
[19:50] <flocculant> like a install - that gets some bug about unetbootin or the like added to it ...
[19:51] <wxl> well i think it's valuable to report bugs— as many as possible, but that doesn't mean a failed testcase
[19:51] <wxl> i know i saw those
[19:51] <wxl> and i'm pretty much ignoring them :)
[19:51] <flocculant> :)
[19:51] <wxl> but i will do everything i can to encourage people to report bugs everywhere they can!
[19:51] <flocculant> I think it's valuable to report bugs too
[19:51] <flocculant> perhaps there should be some education about things like it
[19:52] <flocculant> don't fail a test - if the test itself succeeded - you can add bugs, but don't fail it
[19:52] <flocculant> I've passed things with critical bugs
[19:52] <wxl> maybe there should be a section for pet bugs XD
[19:53] <flocculant> :)
[19:53] <flocculant> we're going to have to undo a bunch of tracker changes - defects is still fubar
[20:01] <flocculant> balloons: I've got nowhere working out what to do with the MP we were looking to undo - given up for the moment
[20:01] <flocculant> after a week using the tracker I have just reported bug 1549956
[20:01] <ubot5`> bug 1549956 in Ubuntu QA Website "Changes to the way bugs are shown in tracker testcase" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1549956
[20:01] <balloons> flocculant, ohh. Sorry to hear that
[20:01] <flocculant> balloons: probably shouldn't have looked when I did tbh :p
[20:01] <balloons> flocculant, what would you like to do next?
[20:02] <flocculant> after a week running beta 1 for the flavours - forget all about the tracker for a few days :D
[20:06] <balloons> :-)
[20:06] <wxl> where do i even see the list of bugs? i couldn't find it
[20:07] <flocculant> wxl at the bottom
[20:08] <wxl> weord o dpm
[20:08] <wxl> ugh
[20:08] <wxl> i don't see it
[20:08] <flocculant> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/113243/testcases/1628/results
[20:08] <wxl> oh maybe i do
[20:08] <flocculant> scroll down
[20:08] <wxl> per testcase
[20:09] <flocculant> yea - same as it ever was - just not icons you have to mouseover
[20:09] <wxl> i still wish i could see all the ones that affect a particular milestone product
[20:09] <wxl> like Lubuntu Xenial Beta 1 has the following bugs and it shows which it testcase it was reported against
[20:10] <flocculant> right
[20:10] <flocculant> personally I'd rather bugs on xubuntu between x and y - I can choose to include milestones, either side of milestones, excluding milestones
[20:11] <wxl> yes i'd like that too
[20:30] <balloons> "like Lubuntu Xenial Beta 1 has the following bugs and it shows which it testcase it was reported against " interesting the linking to testcase
[20:30] <balloons> I don't think that's a filed bug
[20:35] <flocculant> balloons: bug 1375456
[20:35] <ubot5`> bug 1375456 in Ubuntu QA Website "no way to subscribe to daily reports for a particular product" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375456
[23:29] <tsimonq2> balloons: is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RequiredTests accurate?


[18:21] <bcurtiswx> mthaddon, since we are remodeling and reorganizing the drupal site, we will wait for the new theme so that we know what we're working with.
[18:22] <bcurtiswx> so please wait to turn it on
[18:23] <mthaddon> bcurtiswx: ok, thx, will do
[18:25] <bcurtiswx> mthaddon, thank you
[18:30] <bcurtiswx> mthaddon, FWIW http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/ works with an ubuntu theme, maybe you can see how that one works?
[18:30] <mthaddon> bcurtiswx: oh cool, thx - I'll take a look at that


[22:00] <Ulmo> "thunderbird cannot use the profile windows restore because it is in use". How do I shut off TB please?
[22:00] <fabiomixas> hi
[22:00] <Reiselied> Hi :3
[22:00] <aeon-ltd> dustybin: damn, i'm searching but i can only find the innittab method
[22:00] <fabiomixas> Does anyone can invite me to lockerz?
[22:00] <bazhang> !ot | fabiomixas
[22:00] <ubutom> Ulmo killall thunderbird
[22:00] <fabiomixas> Does anyone can invite me to lockerz? pm me
[22:00] <fabiomixas> i use ubuntu
[22:01] <bazhang> fabiomixas, stop that
[22:01] <yoyoned> |init|dustybin:
[22:01] <fabiomixas> !ot bazhang
[22:01] <aeon-ltd> dustybin: gambling here but http://www.lalitkapoor.com/blog/2008/06/30/ubuntu-server-desktop-autologin/
[22:01] <bazhang> fabiomixas, lockerz has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[22:01] <yoyoned> !init|dustybin:
[22:01] <Ulmo> ubutom: no process found
[22:01] <ubutom> Ulmo, killall thunderbird-bin
[22:02] <aeon-ltd> bye y'all
[22:02] <Ulmo> ubutom: same message, no process found
[22:02] <technobowl> hello everybody
[22:02] <ubutom> Ulmo, then thunderbird isn't running :)
[22:03] <c3l> is ther any know problems with dualbooting ubuntu & win 7, when installing ubuntu first and then win 7?
[22:03] <technobowl> do anyone know anything about ubuntu LAMPP
[22:03] <bastid_raZor> c3l: by installing windows 2nd you will need to repair grub afterwards.
[22:03] <ubutom> Ulmo, if it is visible and doesn't react anymore you can use alt f2, type xkill and klick it to kill the process
[22:04] <c3l> bastid_raZor: is that troublesome?
[22:04] <Ulmo> I get a weird message when starting profile manager: IBUS-WARNING **: Connect to unix:abstract=/tmp/db....Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-WAKy0MeppX: Connection refused.
[22:04] <bastid_raZor> c3l: nope.
[22:04] <bazhang> !lamp | technobowl read this
[22:04] <bastid_raZor> !grub2 > c3l
[22:04] <technobowl> Ubuntu LAMPP etc/host
[22:04] <technobowl> trying to put the server on-line
[22:04] <technobowl> having a difficult time
[22:05] <technobowl> I already edited the script in the root
[22:05] <yoyoned> technobowl: any specific error?
[22:05] <c3l> bastid_raZor: ty
[22:05] <bastid_raZor> c3l: you're welcome
[22:05] <technobowl> there is no error, everything has been installed
[22:06] <technobowl> I just can't put it online
[22:06] <oCean_> technobowl: what are you trying? what are you error messages?
[22:06] <dustybin> ubottu: got it working
[22:06] <technobowl> I change localhost to my desired domain
[22:06] <dustybin> haha
[22:06] <dustybin> why cant my user login to xorg
[22:06] <dustybin> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[22:07] <technobowl> there is no error messages
[22:07] <pooky> As a user, I'm trying to edit my crontab, but I have permission errors when saving, anyone know how to fix that?
[22:07] <oCean_> technobowl: first things first, is your webserver (apache) running?
[22:07] <technobowl> localhost is not accessible off the network
[22:08] <technobowl> everything is running
[22:08] <oCean_> technobowl: can you ping localhost?
[22:08] <technobowl> yes
[22:08] <c3l> bastid_raZor: I dont get what needs to be fixed in grup if installing win as 2nd
[22:08] <oCean_> technobowl: what happens if you open browser at http://localhost ?
[22:08] <oxymoron> How to make this bashscript run everytime I login to my desktop? http://pastebin.com/MJaJy6xk
[22:08] <technobowl> I can view my localhost folder
[22:09] <bastid_raZor> c3l: grub itself will be overwritten by windows' mbr
[22:09] <technobowl> my website on the localhost
[22:09] <oCean_> technobowl: so there's no index.html in the DocumentRoot? or index.php
[22:09] <majnoon> install windows first
[22:09] <technobowl> I have wordpress installled localhost/wordpress
[22:09] <c3l> bastid_raZor: ewh I see. I guess https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows has more info too
[22:09] <technobowl> yes its indexed to XAMPP
[22:10] <Sa[i]nT> Where can I find a tutorial on using the libs in the ubuntu repository with c++?
[22:10] <technobowl> so when I go to localhost in the browser
[22:10] <technobowl> I am prompt to put in my XAMPP username and pw
[22:10] <technobowl> thats fine
[22:11] <pooky> ah, I figured it out, was using gvim as the editor and the crontab command lost the editor so it thought I was finishing and gvim was writing to...wherever.
[22:11] <dlbike76> Hello!  Why does "gnome-system-monitor" show a different amount of memory available than "top"?
[22:11] <technobowl> index.php
[22:11] <oCean_> technobowl: yeah, and what happens when you go to http://localhost/wordpress, or where ever it is installed?
[22:12] <technobowl> I go to my wordpress site which is installed on my sql server database
[22:12] <oCean_> technobowl: wait, your Wordpress is NOT on localhost?
[22:13] <technobowl> yes it is
[22:13] <yoyoned> !autostart|oxymoron
[22:13] <technobowl> it's on my local host and my selected domain name
[22:13] <oCean_> technobowl: ow wait, when you browse to localhost/wordpress, you get the contents of the index.php ?
[22:13] <technobowl> I added a domain in etc/hosts
[22:14] <technobowl> right under localhost
[22:14] <oCean_> technobowl: php mod probably not active
[22:14] <technobowl> I get my wordpress content
[22:14] <technobowl> wordpress buddypress pages
[22:14] <oCean_> technobowl: so, that is NOT the problem??
[22:15] <technobowl> my problem is trying to make everyone access my pages
[22:15] <elb0w`> So all of a sudden my gnome-terminal stopped running
[22:15] <Arcticoon> Anyone up for a quick ip6tables question?
[22:15] <elb0w`> I see the screen flash
[22:15] <technobowl> I want everybody to view my site
[22:15] <elb0w`> when I run it
[22:16] <oCean_> technobowl: I misunderstood
[22:16] <oCean_> technobowl: You registered a domain name?
[22:16] <technobowl> no
[22:17] <oCean_> technobowl: then how would people access your machine by name?
[22:17] <technobowl> does it have to be registered first
[22:17] <Typh> why does nautilus tell me "nautilus cannot handle sftp locations" when I know for a fact that's not true as I regularly use that functionality on other workstations
[22:17] <oCean_> technobowl: sure, if you want it to be accessible from internet, then you have to buy/register domainname
[22:17] <technobowl> I have several registered names through godaddy
[22:18] <technobowl> but how can I host it
[22:18] <brontoeee> technobowl, i think xammp has some sort of development/primetime  switch, so i would consult those docs
[22:19] <dajhorn> Typh: If Nautilus mounts broke during an upgrade to Lucid, then reinstall the gvfs-backends, gvfs-bin, and gvfs-fuse packages.
[22:19] <oCean_> technobowl: well, it's kind of offtopic for this channel, since your issue is not ubuntu-related. You're welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there for further information
[22:19] <dlbike76> Why does "gnome-system-monitor" show a different amount of memory available than "top"?
[22:19] <technobowl> thanks
[22:19] <dajhorn> Typh: Nautilus doesn't gives a bogus message when the sftp backend is missing or misconfigured.
[22:19] <aloon> I tried to get my Nvidia 310M's EDID info through /proc , I need it so my video card will work , the driver suggested by jockey doesn't work. Can anyone help me find my EDID without installing windows and having it export the .raw EDID file ?
[22:20] <fd> hi user.  ı m not confirmed my sound card. my pc acer one ao751h
[22:20] <dajhorn> aloon: Try `apt-get install read-edid` and then run the `get-edid` program.
[22:21] <Typh> dajhorn: that did the trick, thanks a lot. I've been struggling with that for weeks.
[22:21]  * Typh rejoices
[22:21] <dajhorn> Typh: Welcome.
[22:21] <rafaelsoaresbr> Does Lucid consume more memory than Karmic after startup?
[22:23] <oCean_> !tr | fd
[22:23] <dajhorn> rafaelsoaresbr: Yes, but it shouldn't matter unless Karmic is already swapping.  (eg: 128 MB)
[22:23] <Sa[i]nT> Is there a way to access running programs in ubuntu with C++?
[22:23] <Sa[i]nT> Like, getting the current song off of vlc.
[22:24] <elb0w`> (gnome-terminal:3917): Gtk_CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_map_unlock_path:assertion `entry != NULL && entry->lock_count > 0' failed
[22:24] <elb0w`> any idea?
[22:24] <rafaelsoaresbr> dajhorn: thanks
[22:25] <dajhorn> rafaelsoaresbr: Welcome.
[22:26] <aloon> dajorn Thanks , I had read-edid installed and it does give a list of stuff , but at the end it says "The EDID data should not be trusted as the VBE call failed
[22:26] <aloon> Error: output block unchanged
[22:26] <aloon> "
[22:27] <fd> #ubuntu-tr
[22:27] <dajhorn> dlbike76: The gnome-system monitor is only showing you the resident memory size.  `top` is also showing you the virtual memory size, which includes the shared segment.
[22:27] <fd> ubottu:  nasıl  giriliyor o kanala
[22:27] <aloon> dajorn do I need to be in a certain directory to launch get-edid ?
[22:28] <dajhorn> aloon: You need to be root.   `sudo get-edid`.
[22:28] <dajhorn> aloon: If you get the warning again, then just ignore it.
[22:28] <aloon> dahorn (pardon me) yah I was root and it started doing its thing but then gave that error
[22:28] <bazhang> fd /join #ubuntu-tr
[22:28] <oCean_> fd: /join #ubuntu-tr
[22:29] <aloon> dajhorn once more so I get it right ... bad typing
[22:29] <quitenormal> hi I just set up a vps with linode, and added a user to group sudo. Would it be safe to delete the root password?
[22:29] <thepompano> hey, i was hoping someone could help me out - i'm having problems with OSS
[22:29] <BluesKaj> this wallet always asking for pw for wifi connect after login is getting boring...any fixes out there?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj: Make your wallet password the same as your login password.
[22:30] <aloon> I noticed it said "	Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC1 transfers
[22:30] <aloon> "
[22:30] <rafaelsoaresbr> I've been installing Lucid, Synapitc doesn't clean search  list after applying changes! Great!
[22:30] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U, it is
[22:30] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj: Are you using automatic login?
[22:30] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U, no
[22:31] <dajhorn> aloon: Are you doing this to get modelines?  -- `sudo get-edid | parse-edid` gives me a sensible result, even though the program complains about compatibility.
[22:31] <herrgabriel> Hi, has anyone experienced some problems with the latest NVidia update?
[22:32] <herrgabriel> because as of this, my Ubuntu will only start without fancy shmancy compiz
[22:34] <wildbat> my desktop PC don't have the option to suspend the machine~ what should i do to enable it?
[22:34] <Karamorf> If I can't find the grub menu in /boot/grub/menu.lst where else should I look for it?
[22:35] <dajhorn> Karamorf: Recent grub releases, like in Lucid, use grub.cfg instead.
[22:35] <Karamorf> thanks
[22:35] <aloon> dajhorn Nvidia 310M graphics card on a sony vaio F11 , the wikki's are full of it ... there's a bug that makes the 64 bit nvidia drivers unusuable unless you go to windows , run a program that gets and exports the EDID info as a .bin , then you move that file to /ETC/X11 (or similar) and then edit xorg.conf to tell it to look for EDID.bin .. its so complicated its maddening
[22:35] <oCean_> !grub2 | Karamorf
[22:35] <dajhorn> Karamorf: And most of the stuff that you might want to change in Lucid is in /etc/default/grub now.
[22:35] <aloon> but I overwrote windows before I read that.
[22:36] <dajhorn> aloon: Ah, you didn't mention that earlier.  Yeah, you have a Vaio.  Sorry.
[22:36] <teixeira> Folks can somoene help me out :http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Laru4tuL I just can't define locale neither set language LC_ALL missing, even diffinig can't set language. None forum entrance help me out
[22:36] <rbellamy> When I run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" not a darn thing happens
[22:36] <rbellamy> any ideas?
[22:37] <aloon> its frustrating , because I just got rid of windows 7 , because I managed to get all the other bugs worked out except hardware acceleration
[22:37] <dajhorn> rbellamy:   `sudo ifdown eth0`,  `sudo ifup eth0`.
[22:37] <dajhorn> rbellamy: Don't run those commands unless you're local.
[22:38] <rbellamy> dajhorn, "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured"
[22:38] <rbellamy> or... since ifconfig shows eth1:
[22:38] <rbellamy> same thing
[22:38] <dajhorn> rbellamy: Why do you need to restart networking?
[22:39] <sysdoc> Ubuntu 10.04, In the installer to setup a software RAID what needs to be done to get the RAID option in the partitioner?
[22:39] <rbellamy> So... because I've changed my lease in dhcp, and it's not taking, or maybe I've changed my IP address to another subnet, the list could go on...
[22:39] <Jordan_U> !alternate | sysdoc
[22:39] <samuels> hi all, can some one help me to install yum please so i can use the sudo command
[22:40] <sysdoc> Jordan_U, I have the alt CD
[22:40] <Jordan_U> samuels: Why do you want to install yum?
[22:40] <dajhorn> rbellamy:  ifdown/ifup is probably the easiest way to get a new lease.  Check that your /etc/network/interfaces file is sensible too.
[22:40] <xangua> !yum | samuels
[22:40] <samuels> Jordan_U: i would like to use yum please
[22:40] <Jordan_U> samuels: One of the options for how a partition should be used (along with ext4, swap etc) should be as a member of a raid array.
[22:40] <BluesKaj> !apt | samuels
[22:40] <dajhorn> rbellamy: If that doesn't work, then check /var/lib/dhcp3 for turds.
[22:40] <Jordan_U> samuels: Why?
[22:40] <rbellamy> dajhorn, this is an in-place upgrade from 9.04, and I'm seeing really weird behavior here, so...
[22:41] <rbellamy> dajhorn, kk, thanks for the pointers
[22:41] <samuels> Jordan_U: i am testing something and i only know yum
[22:41] <BluesKaj> samuels, ubuntu doesn't use yum
[22:41] <samuels> i am trying to install perl-doc
[22:41] <Jordan_U> samuels: Learn apt, you can't (sanely) use yum with ubuntu.
[22:41] <oCean_> samuels: better learn how to work with apt
[22:41] <bastid_raZor> !info perl-doc
[22:42] <linux_student> ask: ubuntu updates can not be install only read (in the terminal that goes with sudo) Firefox can not save the bookmarks
[22:42] <Jordan_U> samuels: sudo apt-get install perl-doc
[22:42] <dajhorn> rbellamy: It is safe to delete the *.lease files in /var/lib/dhcp3 on a Lucid computer.
[22:42] <rbellamy> just did that... and still have the old addy
[22:42] <rbellamy> weird
[22:43] <dajhorn> rbellamy: Reboot.  You could have more than one instance of dhcpc running.
[22:43] <samuels> yes, it says apt-get: command not found
[22:43] <oCean_> samuels: you are using ubuntu linux aren't you?
[22:44] <samuels> yes
[22:44] <rbellamy> hrmph...
[22:44] <J28y> samuels, try: sudo aptitude install perl-doc
[22:44] <samuels> i am quite new to this, but this sudo apt-get it's saying command not known
[22:44]  * rbellamy didn't save the dhcp server settings with the new mac address.
[22:44]  * rbellamy slaps himself with a trout.
[22:44] <bazhang> samuels, sudo apt-get update ?
[22:44] <rbellamy> thank dajhorn
[22:44] <bastid_raZor> samuels: whats the output of: echo $PATH
[22:45] <dajhorn> rbellamy: Welcome, and enjoy the fish.  :)
[22:45] <samuels> aptitude command not found
[22:45] <bazhang> samuels, or only sudo apt-get ?
[22:45] <Jordan_U> samuels: What is the output of "lsb_release -i"?
[22:46] <anitalove> hello
[22:46] <anitalove> I have Ubuntu Lucid installed, and Xorg just froze
[22:46] <samuels> /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/lib/libs:.
[22:47] <thepompano> okay, i think i fixed my problem with OSS.  but ubuntu is still not reading that i have a sound card connected.  i'm not sure what to do.
[22:47] <namopo_> hi
[22:47] <samuels> Distributor ID: RedHatEnterpriseServer
[22:47] <bazhang> samuels, no wonder
[22:47] <anitalove> I have Ubuntu Lucid installed, and Xorg just froze. I have shell access from another computer, what can I do to safely save my work and close my open programs?
[22:47] <oCean_> samuels: aha!
[22:48] <samuels> any way to install that perl-doc
[22:48] <SlidingHorn> samuels...you're using redhat...not ubuntu -- it doesn't run on apt-get like Ubuntu does
[22:48] <samuels> ok
[22:48] <samuels> :)
[22:48] <bazhang> samuels, rhel is not supported here
[22:48] <samuels> i shall google it
[22:48] <oCean_> samuels: in that case, you can use yum, as you already know
[22:48] <namopo_> I have some problems with my HD! So, I decided to boot my computer with a Live CD and the disk utility has detected many bad sectors. what should i do?
[22:48] <samuels> if i can find anything
[22:48] <oCean_> samuels: or join #rhel
[22:49] <Guest98315> namopo_, fix them
[22:49] <liminal> hello sorry disconnected
[22:49] <samuels> #rhel Cannot send to channel
[22:49] <J28y> anitalove: what are your open programs?
[22:49] <rww> !register | samuels
[22:49] <bazhang> samuels, register
[22:49] <Jordan_U> namopo_: Backup your important data to another drive.
[22:49] <liminal> when i select 'restart' my computer isnt restarting
[22:49] <namopo_> i have no important data...
[22:49] <liminal> the user is just being logged out
[22:50] <liminal> is it meant to that?
[22:50] <anitalove> J28y>  eclipse and virtualbox are the important ones
[22:50] <liminal> !register
[22:50] <SlidingHorn> !enter | liminal
[22:50] <dlbike76> dajhorn : thanks for explaining the difference between gnome-monitor and top.
[22:50] <dajhorn> dlbike76: Welcome.
[22:52] <Ulmo> Yea fixed my Thunderbird!
[22:52] <liminal> what happens for you guy when you select 'restart'? a restart or a logout?
[22:53] <bazhang> liminal, a restart
[22:53] <slipp3d> dumb question ... is it possible to clone a Ubuntu 10.04 drive ???  I would like to move to a new hard drive but don't want to reinstall everything
[22:53] <sartan> It seems like all of the symlinks in the metapackage linux-headers-generic for 2.6.32 are broken. i'm banging my head against the wall trying to get dkms to recompile nvidia drivers after the latest diaster upgrade.
[22:53] <liminal> so why does my ubuntu logout the user
[22:53] <liminal> instead of restarting the system
[22:53] <bazhang> !clone | slipp3d
[22:54] <slipp3d> i know that bazhang but i don't want to move all my docs as well ...
[22:54] <J28y> anitalove: with eclipse you might be lucky that it autosaves the workspace every ten minutes, so avoid closing it for 10 minutes, and hope for the best
[22:54] <SlidingHorn> liminal -- again, please don't use Enter as punctuation.  on another note, I found a bug report for this problem...no solution at this point: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-session/+bug/550794
[22:54] <bazhang> slipp3d, that's just the packages
[22:55] <slipp3d> right ... i don't want to reinstall ... i'm just moving to a new drive with out bad sectors same size
[22:55] <bazhang> slipp3d, unless you mean a complete 1 for 1 clone
[22:55] <slipp3d> bazhang, thats it
[22:56] <anitalove> J28y> Eclipse PDT, it probably does
[22:56] <bazhang> slipp3d, dd perhaps, or clonezilla
[22:57] <anitalove> Xorg is frozen, this has happened before, if I kill the process, the computer freezes completely and I have to force shutdown via power button. Is there anything I can do from a root shell?
[22:57] <J28y> anitalove: unless there is a neat way for you to regain control of X, I don't see how to save your virtualbox
[22:57] <slipp3d> thanks bazhang I'll give clonezilla a try and see what happens
[22:57] <sartan> anitalove: you can kill X, nuke gdm, whatever it takes.
[22:58] <sartan> i'd recommend enabling ctrl-alt-backspace for next time
[22:58] <anitalove> it is enabled, and it doesn't work
[22:58] <J28y> don't kill X untill the ten minutes have past
[22:58] <J28y> anitalove: don't kill X untill the ten minutes have past
[22:58] <thepompano> well, it looks as if "aplay -l" is being temperamental now, and that doesn't work either
[22:58] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | anitalove
[22:58] <anitalove> thanks, it's alreay been 10 minutes
[22:59] <thepompano> should i reformat ubuntu?
[23:00] <anitalove> what's the difference between typing reboot from shell and using Alt+PrintScreen etc.
[23:01] <Jamie> Hey, I'm trying to change the login screen theme. I have a .tar.bz2 file, but can't work out what to do with it.
[23:02] <win_2_linux> Jamie someone just told me how to do it,
[23:02] <thune3> anitalove: Alt-Printscreen is an option when the kernel crashes, if you can shutdown or reboot, that is better.
[23:03] <anitalove> thune3> thanks
[23:03] <SlidingHorn> Jamie, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gdm-gnome-display-manager-theme-in-ubuntu.html
[23:03] <liminal> I think i have a faulty PSU, everytime I start my machine up.. some times the sound card is detected sometimes not, or the bluetooth works or it doesnt, or the networkcard , and all my applications randomly crash every now and again
[23:03] <liminal> how can i test for a faulty psu?
[23:04] <thune3> liminal: try another one to see if problems persist. that's about it.
[23:04] <root>  Привет
[23:04] <SlidingHorn> !ru | root
[23:04] <LjL> liminal: i suppose you could install "lm-sensors" and see using "sensors" repeatedly if the voltages are stable
[23:04] <LjL> !ru | root
[23:04] <root> Люди по русски кто шпарит??
[23:04] <Guest22212> по русски хелпми
[23:04] <inglor_> Hey there, I need help with two things, setting up my third monitor (works out of the box with windows) and setting up my audio (emu 1212m card)
[23:05] <Guest22212> ))
[23:05] <Guest22212> Люди
[23:06] <inglor_> ?
[23:06] <SlidingHorn> !ru | Guest22212
[23:07] <LjL> please keep it in english
[23:07] <Guest22212> чего
[23:07] <Guest22212> Баба хас
[23:07] <Guest22212> тыц
[23:07] <SlidingHorn> Guest22212, This room is English only...what language are you speaking if it's not Russian?
[23:08] <Guest22212> не
[23:08] <ubutom> annoyski
[23:08] <SlidingHorn> ubutom: i think so too...
  почему не учишь русский ??
[23:08] <LjL> Guest22212: stop
[23:08] <Guest22212> чего
[23:08] <SlidingHorn> Guest22212, dude...I can't read that crap...speak english
[23:08] <Guest22212> ::??э
[23:09] <inglor_> please, this is my last attempt before going back to windows, I need help with my sound card and my third monitor
[23:09] <Guest22212> ((((
[23:09] <Guest22212> ((((9
[23:09] <LjL> Guest22212: for Russian, type /join #ubuntu-ru
[23:09]  * SlidingHorn blocks Guest22212
[23:09] <Guest22212> ДУю спик инглишь)))
[23:09] <LjL> !ops | Guest22212
[23:10] <wildbat> my desktop PC don't have the option to suspend the machine~ what should i do to enable it?
[23:11] <juggalo483> hey how do i get to a command prompt or get the system to not load xorg.conf it its messesed up and wont load PC
[23:11] <lefantomedlopera> Hey
[23:12] <inglor_> well windows 7 here I come, linux - we'll meet again in 2-3 years when hopefully  you've matured enough to be usable
[23:12] <lefantomedlopera> How can we change automaticaly line  on Ooimpress?
[23:12] <SlidingHorn> inglor_, you haven't really provided any useful details -- also, have you tried posting on the forums?  http://ubuntuforums.org
[23:13] <inglor_> SlidingHorn: I'm really not being a jerk here, I looked through the forums in and out and no-one got 3 monitors working correctly
[23:13] <inglor_> SlidingHorn: found a thread asking the same question and the only reply was a bump by the author himself
[23:14] <Ulmo> Why does gparted just show one partition of 320gb when I have windows and ubuntu side by side?
[23:14] <juggalo483> slidinghorn: how do i get my system not to load the xorg.conf
[23:15] <SlidingHorn> juggalo483, what version of ubuntu are you using, and what problem are you having that you need to disable xorg.conf?  (in detail...don't tell me "my pc won't load with it"
[23:15] <sebsebseb> Jamie: Right still here?
[23:15] <Jamie> sebsebseb: Yeah, still can't get it working
[23:15] <sebsebseb> Jamie: yes I thought that would be the case
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Jamie: since the link SlidingHorn gave you is for older versions of Ubuntu before 9.10
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Jamie: which version are you on 10.04?
[23:16] <FACK> НАРОД С КУЯЛИ ВЫ МЕНЯ БАНИТЕ(((
[23:16] <Jamie> sebsebseb: Yeah
[23:16] <SlidingHorn> sebsebseb, Jamie my bad guys
[23:16] <juggalo483> lol i was trying to get my monitor to load and pasting code in there from other peoples config file and now im stuck on the boot screen
[23:16] <FACK> БЛЯ
[23:16] <SlidingHorn> !ru | FACK
[23:16] <dustybin> how can you remove /etc/motd
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Jamie:  old GDM is :) when it comes to themeing, new one sucks,  you can change background and thats about it, and so its better to use alternatives such as KDM or slim
[23:17] <SlidingHorn> FACK: you were already kicked out of here for not abiding by the rules...please either speak english or tell us what language you *do* speak so we can point you to the correct channel
[23:17] <dustybin> something keeps on rewriting my /etc/motd
[23:17] <ferran> goodnioght to all
[23:17] <ferran> anyone uses privoxy?
[23:17] <bastid_raZor> dustybin: /etc/motd.tail does if you're using 9.04 and below .. i think 9.10 also. 10.04 does it differently
[23:17] <SlidingHorn> !anyone | ferran
[23:17] <ferran> I have these error  Privoxy was unable to socks5-forward your request http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8118/ t
[23:18] <ferran> I'm using tor
[23:18] <dustybin> why does ubuntu change the way it does things with every distro
[23:18] <dustybin> errrrrk
[23:18] <dustybin> terrible
[23:18] <dustybin> *release
[23:18] <Jamie> sebsebseb: Ahh right. I'll look into those. Thanks.
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Jamie: KDM  comes with a nice theme by default, and is good with more than one user, since it will show the account that was last logged in :)  KDE app though, so will want to put on quite a bit of KDE stuff, if you haven't put a KDE app on before
[23:18] <ferran> I searh on the web but the results doesn't resolve the problem
[23:18] <SlidingHorn> ferran, you can't run a SOCKS5 from localhost as far as I know...you need to run through a remote server
[23:18] <juggalo483> slidinghorn: lol i was trying to get my monitor to load and pasting code in there from other peoples config file and now im stuck on the boot screen
[23:19] <LjL> SlidingHorn, ferran: uhm, if you're using tor+privoxy, you *will* generally have a SOCKS server running on localhost's port 8118.
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Jamie: shoudn't be an issue as long as your partition isn't a really stupid size.  Also with Linux distros you can have loads of apps installed without stuff getting slow, like what would happen with WIndows.
[23:19] <ferran> I'm go to http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8118/
[23:19] <ferran> and I see a Forwarding failure
[23:19] <SlidingHorn> juggalo483, what version of ubuntu?  if it's 10.04 (don't remember if 9.10 uses it) you can just not use the xorg.conf...so you can rename it sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  (that will save it under a different name so you still have all the details)
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Jamie: Slim is very customizable you can get it from the repo, but you get the Debian theme by default, since Ubuntu is based on Debian. There are some pretty nice themes on the website for it, and it doesn't seem like it would take much for you to make your own theme even.
[23:19] <ferran>  Privoxy was unable to socks5-forward
[23:20] <bastid_raZor> dustybin: i think the new way is better. change is difficult. that is human nature.
[23:20] <dustybin> bastid_raZor: the only way is vanilla and standard
[23:20] <wechubichu> hi there is someone to talk in spanish?
[23:20] <SlidingHorn> !es | wechubichu
[23:20] <juggalo483> slidinghorn: its stuck on the boot screen
[23:20] <SlidingHorn> juggalo483, there's no command line??
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Jamie: also there is a way to have the old GDM, but not as simple as just installing and using, and I am not sure of the exact details.
[23:21] <juggalo483> no  all i see is the ubuntu logo and the dots under it
[23:21] <ferran> Oks If possible that I need more documentation about net architecture
[23:21] <Jamie> sebsebseb: I read on the forums somewhere that messing with the new settings might make upgrading to future releases problematic.. I'll probably check out KDM at some point, though
[23:21] <ferran> thx for the reply
[23:21] <SlidingHorn> juggalo483, boot into recovery mode & run that command
[23:22] <juggalo483> how do i do that
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Jamie: no probably not,  unless a load of system stuff is removed
[23:22] <FACK> там пусто((
[23:22] <FACK> нет не кого
[23:22] <FACK> народ подскажите плыз
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Jamie: sudo apt-get install kdm    sudo apt-get install slim   tell it to use that, and done
[23:22] <maco> !ru | FACK
[23:23] <juggalo483> slinghorn: how do i do that
[23:23] <SlidingHorn> maco -- that's the same guy you booted earlier
[23:23] <Jamie> sebsebseb: Hmm, well, maybe I'll try to get the old GDM then - though not tonight. Seems a shame they changed it when it used to work so well. And I'll do that bit now, then :P
[23:23] <maco> SlidingHorn: oh
[23:23] <SlidingHorn> juggalo483, hold shift when you start up to bring up the grub2 menu & select recovery mode
[23:23] <maco> SlidingHorn: and he's saying #ubuntu-ru is empty
[23:23] <bastid_raZor> dustybin: so you're just complaining and not really wanting to understand how it works
[23:23] <sebsebseb> maco: You know Russian?
[23:24] <juggalo483> ok cool
[23:24] <SlidingHorn> maco, oh...glad *you* could understand him
[23:24] <maco> sebsebseb: not that much, but google translatae does...
[23:24] <wildbat> my desktop PC don't have the option to suspend the machine~ what should i do to enable it?
[23:24] <SlidingHorn> maco, I can't copy from xchat...dunno if I'm just lame or if it's not a possibility, but I"m not worried about it, lol
[23:24] <sebsebseb> maco: ah right yeah
[23:25] <maco> SlidingHorn: im unfortunately on a mac right now. but copying from quassel has never failed for me on kubuntu
[23:25] <maco> (has failed on windows though)
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Jamie: theres also  LXDM and XDM.  Linux is very much so about choice, from the distros, to the programs/packages you have installed in them.
[23:27] <Jamie> sebsebseb: But too much choice can be confusing! :P Well, thanks for your help. I'm off to bed.
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Jamie: ok np and bye
[23:27] <ClayG> how do i set gnome as my default session instead of netbook remix?
[23:27] <FACK> Yes............ there is no there not who (((
[23:27] <Tsadiq> Hello, I want to reactivate GRUB after windows did it's thing, but have encountered a problem
[23:27] <FACK> БЛЯ
[23:28] <maco> FACK: bazhang is there, isnt he?
[23:28] <mizerydearia> gnumeric question: Does anyone know which function I can use to return a cell that contains contents that match a string?  maybe regex or wildcard matching?  I'm looking through functions in Lookup category and am uncertain as to which function(s) to use.  match() function seems to be similar except, match() doesn't return null or invalid if it doesn't find a cell containing a matching string.
[23:28] <ClayG> how do i set gnome as my default session instead of netbook remix?
[23:28] <SlidingHorn> fd, Есть 71 человек. Если никто не отвечаю тебе есть, вы можете попробовать просить на английском языке здесь
[23:29] <mizerydearia> gnumeric: I have a column with different text strings that I input manually and each row has data in other columns that correspond to that first column data.  I want to create a search/lookup first to find if any of the strings in the first column exist (an exact match) and if so to return pertaining data in one of the other columns for that row.  Is this possible in gnumeric?
[23:29] <FACK> чувак
[23:29] <namopo_> in fact, i have no OS installed on my computer... I installed ubuntu 10.04 but it took so longer on the installation... and now, i'm on a livecd
[23:29] <FACK> так ты блякаешь по русски
[23:29] <namopo_> help me please
[23:30] <FACK> с куяли меня банят
[23:30] <Neo|Desktop> hi all
[23:30] <SlidingHorn> FACK, нет, я использую Google Translate
[23:30] <FACK> ркок
[23:30] <Neo|Desktop> i need mmc_block support at boot time, how do i add that to my initramfs and whatnot?
[23:30] <FACK> не ври
[23:31] <FloodBot3> FACK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:31] <FACK> мат транслитор не переводит
[23:31] <ClayG> whats your favorite bittorrent client/gui?
[23:31] <bastid_raZor> ClayG: transmission
[23:31] <maco> FACK: Вы должны говорить на английском языке здесь. Вы можете использовать http://translate.google.com если вы не можете сделать это самостоятельно.
[23:32] <ClayG> bastid_raZor,  was using it up until today when it kept crashing
[23:32] <FACK> jr
[23:32] <FACK> ok
[23:33] <FACK> People who from you sits on BACK TRACK 4 final ???
[23:33] <maco> FACK: backtrack 4 --> #backtrack
[23:33] <ClayG> necrodearia is asking if an OP would kindly message him
[23:34] <maco> FACK: ubuntu here, no backtrack
[23:35] <melvster> hi all wondering if someone could help ... im trying to get the source for one of my topbar applets (either invest or weather report) ... does anyone know how I can  do that?
[23:36] <FACK> ))
[23:36] <SlidingHorn> melvster, don't know, but http://svn.gnome.org/svn/ might be a good place to look -- or you can see if there's a GNOME channel
[23:36] <FACK> People who from you sits on BACK TRACK 4 final ???
[23:36] <melvster> SlidingHorn: thanks!
[23:36] <maco> FACK: no backtrack here
[23:37] <maco> !bt4 | FACK
[23:37] <ClayG> Necrodearia was banned and would like an operator to message him, I'm guessing to plead his case
[23:37] <maco> ubottu: bt4
[23:37] <LjL> !backtrack
[23:37] <LjL> ClayG: ask in #ubuntu-ops please
[23:37] <LjL> ClayG: or rather, tell him to join there
[23:37] <swatti-> hi all
[23:38] <reddog585> hello all
[23:38] <reddog585> how is everyone 2nite?
[23:38] <maco> !hi | reddog585
[23:39] <Jordan_U> !details | Tsadiq
[23:40] <Tsadiq> Jordan_U: I used sudo grub to get into the menu
[23:40] <Tsadiq> My boot partition is sda3 so I thought root (hd0,2) and setup (hd0) would do it
[23:40] <Tsadiq> but I get "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"
[23:40] <Juniksz> Hello! When I tried to install the wormux from tar.bz file, after the . /configure it says that: SDL version 1.2.6 not found! What should I do?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> Tsadiq: What version of Ubuntu
[23:40] <Tsadiq> 9.10, I believe
[23:41] <Tsadiq> This live cd is 9.04, though
[23:41] <SlidingHorn> Juniksz, have you installed the build essential package?   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-build-essential
[23:41] <Jordan_U> Tsadiq: 9.10 uses grub2: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[23:41] <rmrfslash> When I change the size of a panel in the new ubuntu to say, 48 pixels... it looks like the background image just repeats, so it looks like an old school website. Anyone else notice this?
[23:42] <Tsadiq> Jordan_U: Even if I installed 9.04 and upgraded to 9.10?
[23:42] <Name141> Is it possible to do a full OS upgrade (distro) from the command line?
[23:42] <SlidingHorn> rmrfslash, yes...it's because the theme is only made to be presented @ a certain size...you can try to make a replacement image with the desired dimensions and replace it in the theme if you wish
[23:42] <maco> Name141: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:42] <bastid_raZor> Name141: yes, sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:42] <rmrfslash> Also, if I delete the bottom panel then re-add it and make it not "expand" when you logout/login it is always positioned to the top and even if you go to "properties" and change the position to "bottom" the selection is put back to "top"
[23:43] <FACK> People help плыз.... I wish to crack a server one but незнаю with what to begin..... Can you prompt from what to begin???
[23:43] <maco> rmrfslash: yes the background image repeats. you'll have to make a copy of the image and resize it and set it as the background
[23:43] <Juniksz> SlidingHorn:  ubuntu-build-essential not found :S
[23:43] <Jordan_U> Tsadiq: No, but if you're having problems restoring grub legacy then now might be a good time to switch to grub2 anyway.
[23:43] <maco> FACK: discussion of cracking is not permitted here
[23:43] <FACK> ??
[23:43] <rmrfslash> SlidingHorn: cool
[23:43] <rmrfslash> maco: cool
[23:44] <SlidingHorn> Juniksz, sorry, it's just sudo apt-get install build-essential
[23:44] <FACK> Why::??
[23:44] <rmrfslash> suppose I didn't realize that was actually a feature
[23:44] <Tsadiq> Jordan_U: That link will tell me how to? Will old settings (addition to menu.lst I think) remain?
[23:44] <maco> rmrfslash: i should get around to finishing that gradient patch i started for gnome-panel nearly 2 years ago...
[23:44] <SlidingHorn> FACK, because it's illegal
[23:44] <maco> rmrfslash: its not a feature. its just crappy
[23:44] <Name141> maco/bastid_raZor: Is it as 'safe' as if I did it on the actual machine ?
[23:44] <rmrfslash> :)
[23:44] <maco> Name141: yes
[23:44] <maco> Name141: oh wait
[23:44] <maco> Name141: you want to do over ssh?
[23:45] <bastid_raZor> Name141: run inside screen if over ssh
[23:45] <rmrfslash> the positioning thins has been a bug for at least 2 years
[23:45] <FACK> Though advise to begin with what??
[23:45] <maco> FACK: no
[23:45]  * SlidingHorn looks disapprovingly @ maco for using enter too much ;-)
[23:45] <Name141> maco: yes, over SSH
[23:45] <FACK> ((
[23:45] <bastid_raZor> FACK: being by /join #backtrack-linux
[23:45] <FACK> ))
[23:45] <maco> rmrfslash: gnome panel has no support for gradients, but it has support for image backgrounds. thats all thats being used in the theme
[23:45] <vodl> what does it mean when the pid of the son resulting from fork() is null?
[23:46] <maco> rmrfslash: i started on a patch to add gradient support, but then i switched to kde before i finished
[23:46] <lifenotfound> does apt-get have a verify option to see if a package is installed and what version it is?
[23:46] <Name141> bastid_raZor: Why is that nessessary?
[23:46] <FACK> GIVE IN LOANS TILL NEXT WINTER))))))))))))
[23:46] <Jordan_U> Tsadiq: Yes, following the guide in the link I gave works for upgrading to grub2 as well. Settings like extra kernel parameters will be preserved but extra menu entries will not (grub2 will automatically detect any other OSs you have though)
[23:46] <maco> lifenotfound: apt-cache policy package <-- tells you the installed version
[23:46] <FACK> ыыыыыыыыыыы
[23:46] <FloodBot3> FACK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:46] <SlidingHorn> lifenotfound, dpkg -l
[23:46] <rmrfslash> maco: I went to KDE too... then cam back to gnome (and realizing all the reasons why I left it in the first place :-/)
[23:46] <lifenotfound> thanks maco
[23:46] <unop> lifenotfound, no, but apt-cache does.  apt-cache policy package_name
[23:46] <Tsadiq> Jordan_U: Alright, thanks. I skimmed over it a bit, hope it will work
[23:47] <maco> Name141: if your network dropsi and its inside screen it can keep going and finish and you can reattach and see what its doing
[23:47] <maco> Name141: if you do it outside of screen and your network drops, it might hangup the process or if not...it might try to ask you questions that you cant reach to answer
[23:47] <Name141> maco: I see
[23:47] <Jordan_U> Tsadiq: You're welcome.
[23:48] <wildbat> my desktop PC don't have the option to suspend the machine~ what should i do to enable it?
[23:48] <rmrfslash> maco: Gnome bugs always just seem like... sloppy bugs. KDE bugs just seem more like ppl can't code, and I'm somehow almost more accepting of those kinds of bugs.
[23:48] <FACK> ))
[23:48] <maco> rmrfslash: this isnt a bug, its just a hack around a lack of a feature ;-)
[23:48] <FACK> #backtrack-linux no******)))))))))))))
[23:49] <wildbat> !op | FACK
[23:49] <rmrfslash> maco: So the gnome panel itself just supports background images
[23:49] <FACK> Does not work ((((((((((
[23:49] <maco> rmrfslash: right
[23:49] <rmrfslash> maco: and you made a gradient background image
[23:49] <maco> rmrfslash: i didnt make this one but someone on the art team did, yes
[23:49] <Tsadiq> Jordan_U: I just realized what the problem was. I only checked which partition had the boot flag, not which one is actually the /boot
[23:50] <maco> oh i see
[23:50] <maco> FACK couldnt join the BT channel because they're running as root (or at least have their client set to claim they are)
[23:50] <rmrfslash> maco: I mean, on some level I feel like then the option to resize the panel should be commented out
[23:51] <maco> rmrfslash: well there are some bg images that would tile fine
[23:51] <Tsadiq> Jordan_U: Thanks either way, but it should work now
[23:51] <maco> rmrfslash: like a pattern of stars.  *this* just doesnt happen to be one of them
[23:51] <rod1> how do I reset my xorg file?
[23:51] <rmrfslash> maco: true
[23:51] <rmrfslash> maco: a pattern of stars :)
[23:51] <rmrfslash> maco: "call it like it is" comes to mind
[23:52] <QueNon> hello
[23:52] <QueNon> i've a problem
[23:52] <maco> rmrfslash: i should setup an ubuntu vm on my kubuntu and finish that patch i guess...
[23:52] <QueNon> my iPhone mount on afc://
[23:52] <maco> rmrfslash: it shouldnt even take more than a day once i sit down to do it
[23:52] <Sa[i]nT> How do I install gnome on ubuntu?
[23:52] <QueNon> and i wanna it to mount on /media/iPhone
[23:52] <QueNon> how could i do that?
[23:52] <rmrfslash> maco: dude, that's like the LEAST of Ubuntu's worries... believe me
[23:53] <maco> Sa[i]nT: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[23:53] <rmrfslash> maco: I wouldn't even bother, personally
[23:53] <BiggFREE> Hi
[23:53] <maco> rmrfslash: i hope the rest youve filed bug reports for
[23:53] <SlidingHorn> !iphone | Sa[i]nT
[23:53] <happyface> libpurple (pidgin/finch) is constantly writing to disk even with logging disabled - help?
[23:53] <SlidingHorn> oops QueNon ^^  see what ubottu said
[23:54] <ubuntu> ds
[23:54] <QueNon> SlidingHorn: it could be another usb peripherical
[23:54] <rmrfslash> maco: well I need to be open to bricking my system in order to get the log file entry so that my bug report can be taken seriously i.e. "triaged" which I'm just not about to do at the moment
[23:54] <ubuntu> '[
[23:54] <QueNon> SlidingHorn: i just wanna mount an usb peripherical to /media/iPhone
[23:54] <QueNon> SlidingHorn: that's all
[23:54] <rmrfslash> maco: otherwise I would be filing bugs for the nvidia travesty I've been going through
[23:55] <Evil_> Hey; I had a dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu and I wanted to remove windows 7, so I got gparted and loaded the live cd; removed the NTFS file systems and now when I try to start my computer it hangs; no grub menu or nothing
[23:55] <ubuntu> And you whence though??
[23:55] <wildbat> !grub2 | Evil_, reinstall it
[23:56] <maco> rmrfslash: ah. yeah. well... nvidia... *shrug* i only use hardware with open drivers
[23:56] <rmrfslash> maco:  and I'm aware of how to boot in recovery mode too... but when that's broken I kind of just give up  a.k.a. "I'll get to this later" which never actuoricallyally happens, hist
[23:56] <Evil_> wildbat, reinstall ubuntu?
[23:56] <rmrfslash> maco: there's nouveau... :-/
[23:56] <wildbat> Evil_, grub2
[23:56] <rmrfslash> maco: ATI has some decent foss drivers
[23:56] <ubuntu> format c:
[23:56] <Juniksz> SlidingHorn: I've installed the build-essential, but the problem still exists.
[23:56] <maco> rmrfslash: yeah... ill stick to my lovely intel
[23:56] <Evil_> oh; I'm in the process of getting a live CD; what commands do I run to fix it?
[23:57] <Evil_> btw I had just put ubuntu lucix lynx or w/e on there
[23:57] <maco> rmrfslash: nouveau and ati open drivers arent 100% there on everything yet...
[23:57] <bastid_raZor> Name141: if no one else told you.. screen is necessary in case of the ssh connection is lost. you will be able to reconnect to the screen session and the upgrade will not be interrupted
[23:57] <maco> bastid_raZor: i explained
[23:57] <rmrfslash> maco: that too... but I want to actually do CUDA || OpenCL development which isn't going to happen until the frickin nvidia driver installs
[23:57] <bastid_raZor> maco: thanks, i was eating dinner.
[23:57] <rmrfslash> maco: I won't go too far into it
[23:57] <maco> rmrfslash: ahhh yeah. im not a hardware person...
[23:58] <QueNon> i need help !
[23:58] <srug86>
[23:58] <happyface> libpurple (pidgin/finch) is constantly writing to disk even with logging disabled - any ideas?
[23:59] <wildbat> Evil_, there is complete information on how to reinstall grub2 from LIVECD from the ubottu link
[23:59] <Evil_> ok ty
[23:59] <ubuntu> \
[23:59] <wildbat> Evil_, should you have problem on while in LIVE CD you can instal xchat and come back here
[23:59] <ubuntu> \ew


[00:25] <rsalveti> sveinse: did you try with latest qemu-linaro from https://launchpad.net/~linaro-maintainers/+archive/tools?
[00:26] <sveinse> rsalveti: Yes. I just commented it on the bug. It works using the newer backported qemu
[00:26] <rsalveti> sveinse: great, so at least you have a working version
[00:27] <sveinse> Yes. This was a serious blocker for us, since the build server is running i386 natty...
[00:29] <sveinse> rsalveti: Did you see my question the other day? For some reason rootstock adds the fuse group, but without any explanation to why. Do you recall if it was a particular reason?
[00:31] <rsalveti> sveinse: hm, don't remember the reason why it was added
[00:31] <rsalveti> sveinse: any issues with it?
[00:34] <sveinse> rsalveti: Nope. Just ooi, so don't bother. In fact, I'm not using rootstock any more. I'm using qemu-debootstrap instead. But when changing over from rootstock to deboostrap, I had to ensure my script had similar setup to rootstock, and that's when I discovered the fuse setting.
[00:34] <rsalveti> sveinse: I'd recommend you to use live-build if you can
[00:35] <rsalveti> I know there's support for qemu at the latest live-build version
[00:35] <rsalveti> and you can hook scripts and etc
[00:40] <sveinse> rsalveti: I'll check it out. However we are satisfied with way debootstrap works. I.e. run debootstrap and then apt-get install everything under chroot qemu emulation. The only risk is the qemu armel emulation during dpkg install when building the rootfs on an intel host. But it has proved to work successfully on a larger set of prototypes.
[00:40] <rsalveti> sveinse: yeah, great
[00:40] <rsalveti> and it seems for precise mono, tomboy and banshee was removed from desktop
[00:41] <rsalveti> then no mono issue when cross debootstraping the desktop anymore :-)
[00:42] <sveinse> rsalveti: I'm doing it in two steps: I'm debootstrapping to minimal, and then include the rest under chroot. And our app is not using desktop, its Qt QWS, so no X11.
[00:42] <rsalveti> cool, then you can build it quickly
[00:43] <sveinse> But one of the developers are talking about adding mono. Should I expect issues with installing it under chroot?
[00:46] <rsalveti> sveinse: yup, there are quite a few issues when installing mono packages
[00:47] <rsalveti> sveinse: bug 530000
[00:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 530000 in qemu-kvm "mono assembly installation under qemu-arm-static hangs" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530000
[00:47] <sveinse> rsalveti: good to know. Does this also include native installation of mono on armel?
[00:47] <rsalveti> nops, just under qemu iirc
[00:50] <sveinse> rsalveti: One thing I've been considering, is to only run dpkg unpack in image creation, and wait to do configure until the customer boots the product. I suppose this is the same as running the second stage natively
[00:50] <rsalveti> sveinse: ye
[00:50] <rsalveti> yes
[00:50] <rsalveti> depending on the amount of packages you have, it's quite a sane solution
[00:51] <rsalveti> and you don't rely on qemu anymore
[00:51] <sveinse> Except that "See I bought this product. Now I just have to wait 20 minutes for it to start for the first time"
[00:53] <rsalveti> well, it all depends on the amount of packages you have
[00:54] <rsalveti> and for sure some packages could be changed to avoid doing stuff at the post inst
[00:55] <sveinse> rsalveti: Would it be possible to debootstrap the first stage on intel, and then move the root into a chroot on a armel native and run the second stage using a chroot there?
[00:55] <sveinse> E.g. does that resolve the mono issues, right?
[00:55] <rsalveti> sveinse: yes
[00:59] <sveinse> rsalveti: BTW I don't know if there is much activity on rootstock, but during an installation of a package I discovered that it can be smart to dpkg-divert /sbin/start since some packages tries to start the services from their postinst's.
[01:00] <rsalveti> yeah, this would help avoiding starting services while running with qemu
[01:01] <rsalveti> I need to spend some time on it, to at least fix some of the bugs
[01:01] <rsalveti> but we're kind of moving to live-build now
[01:01] <sveinse> yup, just a suggestion
[01:02] <rsalveti> but yeah, useful, thanks anyway :-)


[15:21] <apricot1> Looking for a translation addon for Firefox 46.0/Ubuntu  - tried Instant Translate, but doesn't work. No tooltip, no selection für languages... Is there another 'tooltip' translation ?
[20:53] <xjjk> has anyone else been having problems w/ the firefox 48 build on xenial?
[23:13] <xjjk> It crashes on start for me


[04:39] <dogfish> Hello, I have a quick lubuntu question, Is there anyway to get past the 5.3Gb install requirement because I am trying to install on a 4Gb ssd netbook?
[04:41] <bioterror> I think they are working on that bug
[04:41] <bioterror> mini.iso could be a solution
[04:41] <bioterror> and then install lubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <bioterror> ubiquityasdasd is :(
[04:42] <dogfish> Yeah, that what I was assuming I would have to do, but Just wanted to confirm
[04:42] <dogfish> Thank you fo the info though
[04:42] <dogfish> for*
[04:42] <jmarsden> dogfish: There is an iso at ftp://ftp.jmarsden.org/pub/lubuntu-11.04.jm1.iso that will install in 2.7GB
[04:43] <jmarsden> It is unofficial... but works.
[04:43] <dogfish> Has there been any problems with that version being updated since I herd that there could be problems with chaning the .iso file
[04:45] <bioterror> jmarsden, have to wait for 11.04.1 ;)
[04:45] <dogfish> heh
[04:46] <jmarsden> dogfish: I wrote the script that creates official Lubuntu ISOs... I know what I am doing when it comes to creating Lubuntu ISOs :)
[04:47] <jmarsden> bioterror: gilir and I discussed creating an 11.04.1 just for this but it's not affecting that many people... so... not yet :)
[04:47] <dogfish> :) will do. Its worth a shot
[04:47] <dogfish> Why was the requirement made so high in the first place?
[04:48] <jmarsden> The ubiquity people changed the way the space requirement was calculated, 3 weeks before 11.04 final release, and did not realize it would affect Lubuntu that way.
[04:49] <jmarsden> Basically we put a sane number in a file on the CD for size, they decided they want to make sure people have some spare disk space... and their code now checks for "double whatever number the ISO says"!!!
[04:49] <jmarsden> It fixed an issue for Ubuntu and Kubuntu, apparently, but caused a new issue for us.
[04:49] <dogfish> Ahhh Thank you again for the info :)
[04:49] <jmarsden> You're welcome.
[04:49] <dogfish> Typical
[04:49] <dogfish> heh
[04:50] <dogfish> Though I am likeing the live version so far, so I am excited to try the fresh install on here, much faster than UNR
[04:52] <bioterror> does not require much to beat UNR
[04:52] <dogfish> heh Used it for way too long...
[04:52] <bioterror> actually, UNR has a real compititor, MeeGo 1.2
[04:53] <bioterror> *compe
[04:53] <bioterror> https://meego.com/devices/netbook
[04:53] <dogfish> Ever tried crashbang?
[04:55] <bioterror> crunch
[04:55] <bioterror> it's okay
[04:58]  * jmarsden thinks... interesting name for a distro, "crashbang" -- a distro that kernel panics as soon as you boot :) :)
[04:59] <bioterror> jmarsden, if it were mine, it would boot but every application would segfault
[05:00] <jmarsden> :)
[05:02] <bioterror> that's almost as funny idea as gobolinux :D
[05:18] <sadie> hello
[05:19] <sadie> i need some help again
[05:20] <jmarsden> sadie: OK, just ask your real question.
[05:20] <jmarsden> !ask
[05:21] <sadie> I need to convert an mp4 video in something that can play on my cell
[05:22] <jmarsden> sadie: What video file formats can your cellphone handle?
[05:24] <sadie> something like 3g2
[05:24] <sadie> is a LG
[05:25] <jmarsden> OK, let me see what I can find to create 3g2 files... that's not a format I have heard of until just now :)
[05:26] <jmarsden> sadie: There is some info on online web-based converters at http://www.ehow.com/how_6301997_convert-mpg-3g2-video-linux.html which might work for you.
[05:26] <sadie> me nither
[05:39] <jmarsden> sadie: Looks like you can probably use ffmpeg in Linux to do the conversion, but the exact commands for ffmpeg are... complicated, so I can't give you a working example.
[05:40] <jmarsden> sadie: You might fine someone who knows the ffmpeg commands for doing that in the #ffmpeg channel here on Freenode.
[05:40] <jmarsden> *You might find ...
[05:43] <bioterror> ffmpeg <3
[05:44] <bioterror> i have mostly just converted .flv files to avi
[05:44] <jmarsden> Looks like sadie went away anyway...
[05:45] <bioterror> thankful person ;)
[09:17] <Valentine> My flash video playing is slow cannot watch in full screen :(
[09:17] <Valentine> for example youtube
[09:17] <Valentine> i have latest flashplayer
[09:20] <bioterror> and what about your hardware
[09:23] <Valentine> 64mb builtin VGA card
[09:24] <Valentine> all was fine in linux mint 10
[09:24] <bioterror> hmmm
[09:24] <bioterror> can you check your CPU usage while watching video?
[09:24] <Valentine> ok
[09:28] <Valentine> CPU usage till 90%
[09:28] <bioterror> what kind of CPU you have then?
[09:28] <Valentine> 50% usage in small screen
[09:28] <bioterror> (Flash is horrible, I know)
[09:28] <Valentine> intel original 3.0 ghz
[09:28] <bioterror> 3GHz sounds like Celeron
[09:28] <bioterror> but should be enough
[09:35] <bioterror> but then again, 90% cpu usage to play flash video
[09:40] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror; Or Pentium 4
[09:49] <bioterror> hi gilir
[09:49] <bioterror> how's the UDS?
[09:50] <gilir> hi bioterror
[09:50] <gilir> good :) But it's just the beginning :)
[09:51] <gilir> Lubuntu sessions are tomorow
[09:53] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha gilir, how's it going?
[09:55] <gilir> hi MrChrisDruif, good for now :)
[09:56] <gilir> is there other people here at the UDS ?
[09:56] <jmarsden> gilir: Yes, hajour and UndiFineD and Daniel0108 are all there
[09:59] <gilir> cool :)
[10:00] <gilir> jmarsden: Lubuntu sessions are tomorow, be sure to add comments to the blueprints if you can't attend them :)
[10:00] <jmarsden> I will try to be awake at 0600 for the 1500 timeslot... when is the other one?
[10:00] <jmarsden> 0600 here is 1500 in Budapest...
[10:00] <gilir> jmarsden: there is also another session about documentation of the Ubuntu ISO build infrastructure, I'm sure you will be interested :)
[10:01] <jmarsden> Ah... yes :)  Do you know its name or when it is?
[10:01] <gilir> jmarsden: 2 hours later
[10:02] <jmarsden> I can probably do that... 0800 here... will maybe make me late for work... :)
[10:02] <gilir> jmarsden: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-image-build-documentation
[10:03] <jmarsden> Thanks, subscribed :)
[10:04] <jmarsden> Heh, should I add Lubuntu as a "User Story" to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ImageBuildDocumentation ?
[10:12] <MrChrisDruif> gilir; UndiFineD isn't at UDS but taking care of the kids at home
[10:13] <MrChrisDruif> But I'll be able to attend afaics (cs = can see)
[10:13] <UndiFineD> but I am remotely attending lots of sessions
[10:14] <jmarsden> Ah, OK, my misunderstanding :)
[10:15] <jmarsden> gilir: I just added Lubuntu as a User Story on that image build documentation wiki spec page.
[10:15] <jmarsden> But at 2:15am here I need to sleep, so goodnight all, and I hope hajour finds her luggage :)
[10:16] <gilir> UndiFineD: ok, it should have sound for sessions + IRC
[10:16] <gilir> jmarsden: ok thanks :)
[10:16] <MrChrisDruif> Why are we doing this in #lubuntu instead of #lubuntu-offtopic?
[10:17] <UndiFineD> gilir, did you managed to get a last minute flight ?
[10:18] <gilir> UndiFineD: not last minute, it's booked since 1 mounth I think
[10:18] <gilir> and I'm here since Thurday, doing some tourism :)
[10:20] <UndiFineD> ah great
[10:24] <jmarsden> gilir: that image build doc session is listed as being at 1200-1300 which is3 hours before the Lubuntu-integrate-ecosystem one... I can't do 3am and then 6am and then be awake a work... not realistic.
[10:24] <jmarsden> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-image-build-documentation/
[10:25] <gilir> jmarsden: yes, not a nice shedule :/
[10:26] <jmarsden> I'll see if I can add anything more to the spec tomorrow (Monday) evening for it, and if I remember leave xchat logging that room (dery) overnight.
[10:26] <jmarsden> But first I need to sleep... 2:30am here :)
[10:27] <gilir> jmarsden: be aware that the schedule move
[10:27] <gilir> it's very unstable :)
[10:42] <UndiFineD> I think they even have had a session on schedule stability
[14:14] <Valentine> where is the list of startup applications in lubuntu?
[14:14] <Valentine> I want to add numlockx
[14:14] <Valentine> i mean http://tech.ninja.pk/2009/11/enable-numlock-in-x11-sessions-linux-software/
[14:30] <Valentine> which gmail notifier is best for lubuntu?
[14:33] <Valentine> if i failed to install it then i will feel sad https://launchpad.net/gm-notify
[14:38] <Valentine> Successfully Installed.
[14:56] <LAcan> any kismet users in the house?
[14:57] <Valentine> which download manager is best with resume support in lubuntu
[14:58] <bioterror> resuming depends on http server that's sending stuff to you
[14:58] <bioterror> I would suggest curl or wget
[14:59] <Valentine> with GUI?
[14:59] <Valentine> curl is not with gui :(
[14:59] <bioterror> for what you need guy? :)
[14:59] <Valentine> brb
[15:00] <bioterror> back in the 90's windows had that GetRight
[16:24] <Valentine> how to lock screen?
[16:24] <Valentine> shortcut keys to lock screen?
[16:36] <Valentine> what are openbox configurations?
[16:36] <Valentine> wow themes
[18:51] <Timo_> Why is the grub entry saying it's Ubuntu, when it is Lubuntu?
[18:52] <bioterror> no lubuntu
[18:52] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:52] <bioterror> ohhh grub :D
[18:52] <bioterror> I was already thinking lsb :D
[19:02] <WiZ> did you use the mini iso
[19:03] <Timo_> No I used lubuntu cd on usb
[19:03] <WiZ> hmmm should say lubuntu then
[19:03] <WiZ> try sudo update-grub
[19:03] <bioterror> does that mean you used usb-cdrom-drive?
[19:05] <bioterror> Timo_, sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:05] <bioterror> and then find line ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
[19:05] <bioterror> and edit that "menuentry"
[19:05] <bioterror> and then "update-grub"
[19:06] <bioterror> then you can boot into "Lubuntu" from grub
[19:46] <sadie> helloTwo days ago I had xubuntu 10.10 and upgraded to 11.04 but everything got slower.
[19:46] <sadie> also appeared a window that was removed many times faster, he said something like debconf
[19:48] <sadie> I useLubuntu  now and let me know if it is Intelligent to upgrade now, or is better to wait
[19:50] <bioterror> as long as you feel you're satisfied you dont have reason to upgrade
[19:50] <bioterror> if you like the silver layout in 10.10
[20:00] <sadie> i dont understand
[20:09] <MrChrisDruif> sadie; An Operating System should do what you want to do with it; meaning that if Lubuntu 10.10 is for fulling your needs, there isn't a real reason to upgrade to 11.04
[20:09] <bioterror> read 11.04 release notes
[20:23] <craigbass1976> I'm sure people have asked this before...  Where's the trash?
[20:25] <bioterror> what?
[20:25] <bioterror> 150M.local/share/Trash/
[20:47] <EagleScreen> hi
[20:48] <EagleScreen> will I can copy Lubuntu iso to usb-stick with Universal USB Installer for Windows? it works with Ubuntu
[20:51] <EagleScreen> I think Unity is moving some users from Ubuntu to Lubuntu
[20:51] <MrChrisDruif> EagleScreen; Some?
[20:53] <EagleScreen> MrChrisDruif: do you think more than some?
[20:53] <MrChrisDruif> Since 11.04 has been released I think we've at least double the number of users.
[20:54] <MrChrisDruif> But that is nothing more then a guess, no numbers to back it up thou
[20:55] <EagleScreen> what graphical tool can I use on Lubuntu to browse samba shares?
[20:55] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know EagleScreen
[20:57] <craigbass1976> bioterror, there's nothing in any of the subdirectories of ~/.local/share/Trash
[20:57] <stlsaint> EagleScreen: mounted share drives should be viewable via file manager
[20:57] <stlsaint> or network shares
[20:58] <EagleScreen> for my surprise, Lubuntu is listed in Universal USB Installer for Windows
[20:58] <MrChrisDruif> stlsaint; Is that implemented with PCmanFM?
[20:58] <EagleScreen> I think not
[20:58] <stlsaint> hrm, i will have to recheck that, im not in my lubuntu install atm
[20:59] <EagleScreen> there must be another third party tool written in gtk..
[20:59] <EagleScreen> to vrowse samba
[20:59] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, yeah EagleScreen; you *should* be able to make a bootable usb-drive with any distro's ISO
[21:27] <phillw> !terminal
[21:40] <head_victim> EagleScreen: you still looking for a tool within Lubuntu to create a startup USB disk?
[21:46] <EagleScreen> I think I will be able to do it with Universal SB Installer
[21:46] <EagleScreen> I will tell you soon
[21:46] <EagleScreen> downloading the iso right now
[21:49] <head_victim> Ok, I can't remember if I installed it specifically or not but in any *buntu you can just "sudo apt-get install usb-creator-gtk" to get a nice, easy to use GUI for setting up USB ISOs
[21:49] <head_victim> Assuming it's not installed by default
[22:02] <EagleScreen> yes head_victim but i am on Windows right now
[22:03] <head_victim> EagleScreen: ah sorry, I think I misread some scrollback and got confused
[22:10] <EagleScreen> usb created, will test now, see you later
[22:14] <MrChrisDruif> stlsaint; Is that implemented with PCmanFM? <= forgot enter a long time ago
[22:14] <MrChrisDruif> Was about samba shares xD
[22:15] <head_victim> MrChrisDruif: it works in pcmanfm, yes
[22:15] <head_victim> I use it regularly for that
[22:16] <head_victim> For maverick you need to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat#Network%20File%20Browsing%20with%20PCManFM though
[22:18] <MrChrisDruif> head_victim; And Natty?
[22:30] <head_victim> Should just work
[22:42] <palhmbs> how do you refresh the menu, I've created a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications... ?
[22:53] <sadie> why my lubuntu is slow if my memory ram is 252
[22:53] <sadie> ?
[22:55] <head_victim> palhmbs_: sorry I'm not sure maybe someone else can help?
[22:55] <head_victim> sadie: depends on what you're trying to run
[22:55] <jmarsden|work> sadie: What are you running in Lubuntu that is slow?  Any large application will be slow in 252MB RAM.
[22:55] <MrChrisDruif> sadie; Slowness isn't only decided by RAM, also CPU speed is of importance afaik. And jmarsden|work +1
[22:55] <sadie> exactly
[22:55] <MrChrisDruif> CPU generation is also important
[22:56] <sadie> my pc is pentium III
[22:56] <MrChrisDruif> Newer generation CPU's preform more work in a cpu-cycle
[22:57] <jmarsden|work> sadie: A 1GHz PIII should run Lubuntu itself pretty well in 256MB.  A 500MHz one... will be slowish, probably.
[23:31] <simonas> Hi guys i have a problem :/
[23:31] <simonas> I just have installed lubuntu
[23:32] <simonas> and when i install newest NVIDIA drivers, and then open lxterminal
[23:33] <simonas> in upper left apear black spot :/
[23:33] <simonas> what should i do ? ;(
[23:33] <head_victim> simonas: can you post a screenshot somewhere for use to look at?
[23:33] <phillw> simonas: it is a known bug.
[23:34] <simonas> ok w8 a sec
[23:34] <head_victim> simonas: well there you go ( phillw is that the missing icon or something else? )
[23:34] <simonas> how should i fix that bug ?
[23:34] <simonas> then ?
[23:35] <simonas> where i can find it ?
[23:35] <head_victim> phillw: is there a bug filed?
[23:36] <phillw> bug 743156
[23:36] <phillw> drat...
[23:37] <phillw> bug 743157
[23:38] <phillw> simonas: if you have a launchpad account, then add yourself to the 'it affects me' and you will get updates of its progress through the system.
[23:38] <simonas> ok i'll try thanks