[00:14] <ScottK> I'm a bit suprised, but apparently kdepim-runtime is still installable with kdebase-runtime from 4.5 even after it's built against 4.6.
[00:47] <ScottK> pim-runtime rebuild against the new pimlibs/akonadi is not a no change rebuild.
[01:25] <ScottK> pim neither
[01:37] <JontheEchidna> baw, KDE 4.6 has a KLocale function I need :(
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> and in retrospect I should have made LibQApt return the support date as a QDateTime instead of a Qt-localized QString so that KDE apps could localize it
[01:41] <CIA-42> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200446 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/package.h Add a note for future me when writing the QApt2 API
[01:53] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Have you been following the multiarch changes for this cycle?  I'm wondering if maybe the different symbols we're seeing on amd64 are related to that?
[01:54] <JontheEchidna> I've not been following multiarch.
[01:54] <ScottK> OK.
[01:54] <JontheEchidna> I don't even have a firm grasp at what multiarch is :P
[01:58] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: It does look like the pimlibs upload you did needs some symbols file updates.  Will you take care of it?
[01:59] <ScottK> I don't see any 32/64 bit differences though.
[01:59] <JontheEchidna> sure
[01:59]  * ScottK is going to play with getting them right for kdegrapcics
[01:59] <ScottK> Thanks.
[02:16] <CIA-42> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200458 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (history.cpp history.h) The location of the log dir isn't really something specifiable, apart what we will already find out from the options, so modify the History constructor accordingly
[02:18] <CIA-42> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200459 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/history.cpp Don't leak HistoryItems in the HistoryPrivate destructor
[03:20] <CIA-42> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200470 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/history.cpp Trim data just to be safe
[03:21] <CIA-42> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200471 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/history.cpp Apparently this does work. Remove inaccurate comment
[05:24] <maco> "apparently this does work"? hahaha
[05:29] <nigelb> commit messages, always fun
[05:30] <nigelb> I have commits like "my boss wanted this"
[05:30] <nigelb> "just pleasing the guy whos pays my check" :p
[08:12] <apachelogger> :O
[08:12] <apachelogger> omg
[08:12] <apachelogger> dantti: you are the master of all awesome
[08:12]  * apachelogger leaves to have a nerdgasm in public about gstreamer and packagekit making codec babies
[08:17] <apachelogger> wow
[08:17] <apachelogger> needs improvement to the gst plugin though
[08:20] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot99.png
[08:20] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot100.png
[08:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: look how awesome
[08:20] <apachelogger> phonon-gst is going to be the hottest regression-change we ever did ^^^
[10:12] <markey> guys, kudos for maintaining Maverick so well. it's really cool that you provide so many updates
[10:12] <markey> keeping it nice and smooth
[10:14] <markey> erm
[10:14] <markey> now it got stuck:
[10:14] <markey> "Unpacking replacement chromium-codecs-ffmpeg ..."
[10:14] <markey> what to do?
[10:14] <markey> keeps hanging there
[10:14] <markey> apachelogger: ^
[10:30] <apachelogger> markey: maybe it is unpacking a lot
[10:30] <apachelogger> chromium is not exactly our domain
[10:31] <markey> re
[10:31] <markey> apachelogger: it really got stuck
[10:31] <markey> I had to kill it with fire
[10:31] <markey> hard reset
[10:31] <markey> and then dpkg --configure -a
[10:31] <markey> and then again apt-get upgrade
[10:31] <markey> then it worked
[10:31] <markey> Oo
[11:21] <Quintasan> Anyone using QtEmu on Natty?
[11:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: what is this libphononexperimental.so ?
[11:53] <Riddell> presumably we don't want to package it?
[12:07] <Quintasan> Riddell: Do you have natty installed?
[12:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: we want
[12:14] <apachelogger> it is experimental stuff that is not yet ready for primetime
[12:15] <apachelogger> still abi and api stable and worthwhile for people who want to test the stuff
[12:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: where does one send the uds expense thingy?
[12:25] <dantti_work> apachelogger: hey, nice it worked for you too, btw what does the gst needs that you were talking about?
[12:27] <apachelogger> dantti_work: turns out it is probably kpk that needs love ;)
[12:27] <apachelogger> the dialog that comes up is not exactly nice
[12:27] <dantti_work> lols
[12:27] <apachelogger> with fullpath
[12:27] <apachelogger> and no icon
[12:28] <dantti_work> apachelogger: well full path is about of trust
[12:28] <apachelogger> ultimately the gst plugin would not appear as gstreamer-codec-install to (k)pk but the actual app that requires a codec (since that name is provided to gstreamer-codec-install)
[12:28] <dantti_work> as any app can ask to install things
[12:28] <dantti_work> so it's nice to be sure which one is it
[12:29] <apachelogger> dantti_work: so make it a drop down with additional information
[12:29] <dantti_work> but I can hardcode the gst-plugin path
[12:29] <apachelogger> the actuall app binary name is next to uninteresting
[12:29] <apachelogger> what I want is that it says
[12:29] <apachelogger> Amarok, the master of all good, requires additional codecs for watching pr0n, do you want to look for that?
[12:30] <dantti_work> sure, well that dialog was copied from gpk and as I never used it .... well...
[12:30] <apachelogger> to the user not gst-codec-install wants codecs, but amarok (and in fact, even to me it is that way, since gst-codec-install is only the gateway link to $distro's packagemanger ;))
[12:30] <dantti_work> sure
[12:31]  * apachelogger wonders how to get nice window decrations with compiz
[12:31] <dantti_work> should be easy to fix though
[12:33] <davmor2> apachelogger: apparently you just need to add the right plugin :)
[12:34] <apachelogger> it is a modern world with plugin architectures
[12:36] <dantti_work> apachelogger: btw I couldn't get amarok ask for plugins I had to test it with totem
[12:37] <apachelogger> oh, yeah
[12:37] <apachelogger> phonon-gst bug
[12:37] <apachelogger> though rdieter_ doesnt have it apparently
[12:37] <dantti_work> weird
[12:48] <dantti_work> apachelogger: sorry it's not fixable "ID3 tag|gstreamer0.10(decoder-application/x-id3)()(64bit)"
[12:48] <dantti_work> I don't get the amarok string
[12:51] <apachelogger> dantti_work: but how do you know what app path to show?
[12:52] <dantti_work> I get with dbus who called that methods
[12:52] <dantti_work> I just talked with Richard, and he said it was removed for security reasons
[12:52] <dantti_work> like it saying that Firefox want's foo but it's actually a backdor.sh :P
[13:28] <dantti_work> apachelogger: ok, now you got it :D http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopqp1537
[13:28] <dantti_work> apachelogger: but it does not work if the gst-codec-installer  from session installer calls it
[13:29] <apachelogger> dantti_work: so, what do we do?
[13:29] <dantti_work> aptitude purge it ?
[13:29]  * apachelogger notes that we could implement our own gstreamer-codec-installer
[13:30] <apachelogger> dantti_work: well, how does it get the name?
[13:30] <apachelogger> in your fixed version
[13:30] <dantti_work> x11
[13:30] <dantti_work> but only if the caller is trusted
[13:30]  * apachelogger wonders what a trusted caller is
[13:30] <apachelogger> dantti_work: so in your case totem is directly calling to pk?
[13:30] <dantti_work> and as session installer is a py script I can't be sure of what pycode is running?
[13:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ping
[13:32] <dantti_work> apachelogger: /etc/alternatives/gstreamer-codec-install
[13:32] <apachelogger> dantti_work: I am not following
[13:33] <dantti_work> the alternatives linke can be linked to : PK /usr/lib/packagekit/pk-gstreamer-install  or /usr/bin/gst-install
[13:33] <apachelogger> gst-install?
[13:33] <dantti_work> the later as it is a python script it's harder to know the right path
[13:33] <apachelogger> we only support pkg-gstreamer-install I would say
[13:33] <dantti_work> since the cmd line is /usr/bin/python
[13:33] <apachelogger> also gst-install is not installed by default here
[13:34] <dantti_work> apachelogger: sure it's not, as we don't use session installer
[13:34] <dantti_work> but in case it's used in gnome it won't work, it's just that
[13:34]  * apachelogger does not care about gnome :P
[13:35]  * apachelogger really thinks packagekit should support defining a user-visible name and icon for the dialog
[13:35] <dantti_work> k, then I guess we are done.. :) as you can see on the screen shot it's the window title so it's pretty noce, you will see Amarok now :P
[13:36] <dantti_work> I can get the icon from x11 too...
[13:40]  * apachelogger loves how his system randomly goes to shit and ext4 looses data
[13:42] <apachelogger> dantti_work: is that new magic in kpk?
[13:55] <dantti_work> apachelogger: sorry?
[13:55] <apachelogger> dantti_work: the app-name change is that implemented in the kpackagekit side of things?
[13:55] <apachelogger> also is it commited alreayd? :D
[13:55] <dantti_work> apachelogger: kpk
[13:56] <dantti_work> not yet (I'm about to commmit)
[14:01] <dantti_work> apachelogger: pushed
[14:01] <dantti_work> well it's in svn (then commited :P)
[14:07] <apachelogger> dantti_work: which reminds me that kpk should move to git ^^
[14:07] <apachelogger> phonon is going kde git soonish
[14:09] <dantti_work> yep
[14:13] <apachelogger> :O
[14:13] <apachelogger> dantti_work: doesnt work here
[14:16] <dantti_work> apachelogger: how so?
[14:16] <apachelogger> I dunno
[14:16] <dantti_work> apachelogger: did you kill kpackagekitsmarticon?
[14:16] <apachelogger> now it says an application needs access ^^
[14:17] <dantti_work> make sure the right smarticon is running (ie the compiled one (unless your prefix is /usr)
[14:22] <markey> apachelogger: got packages for 4.6 Beta 1? :)
[14:22] <markey> wanna try :D
[14:22] <apachelogger> WIP
[14:22] <markey> kk
[14:22] <markey> :)
[14:22] <markey> is it stable, or rather buggy?
[14:22] <markey> I need a stable KWin
[14:22] <apachelogger> dantti_work: hm, maybe kubuntu puts the smarticon somewhere else
[14:23] <apachelogger> because I actually killed it
[14:24] <dantti_work> apachelogger: so it does not popup anymore?
[14:24] <apachelogger> no no, it pops up, but it says "an application needs an addtional module...."
[14:24] <apachelogger> rather than the app name, though an application is an improvement over /usr/bin/gstreamer-codec-install I suppose :D
[14:25] <apachelogger> app being amarok btw
[14:25] <apachelogger> dantti_work: I can drop a patched phonon somewhere, so you can test on your system
[14:25] <dantti_work> apachelogger: ah I think I know the issue
[14:25] <dantti_work> where is the code that call the gs-codec-install script
[14:25] <dantti_work> ?
[14:26] <apachelogger> sec
[14:26] <dantti_work> apachelogger: no, need I'm pretty sure I know what's wrong :P
[14:26] <dantti_work> btw does the popup is parented to amarok? (i guess no) :P
[14:26] <apachelogger> how would I know?
[14:27] <dantti_work> composite effect?
[14:27] <dantti_work> amarok getting darker
[14:27] <apachelogger> http://gitorious.org/phonon/phonon/blobs/master/gstreamer/mediaobject.cpp#line220
[14:27] <apachelogger> dantti_work: I am using the compiz :P
[14:27] <dantti_work> ah, that might be the problem
[14:28] <dantti_work> not sure kwindowSystem supports calls to other WM
[14:28] <apachelogger> well, I switched to kwin also, didnt change a thing
[14:28] <apachelogger> also kwindowsystem does not depend on kwin AFAIK
[14:29]  * apachelogger is wndering why his amarok goes to zombie
[14:29] <apachelogger> something must be fishy about phonon-gst and the installer
[14:30] <apachelogger> dantti_work: not a parent, no
[14:30] <dantti_work> apachelogger: ok bug spotted, there is no gst_install_plugins_context_set_xid in the code
[14:30] <dantti_work> as soon as you gst_install_plugins_context_set_xid with amarok's xid it will all work
[14:30] <Riddell> apachelogger: so a new binary package for libphononexperimental ?
[14:30] <apachelogger> magic
[14:31] <apachelogger> Riddell: I would appreciate that
[14:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: I don't know about expenses, I do mine differently
[14:31] <apachelogger> well, wiki indicated that I should email them to marianna, so I did that
[14:31] <apachelogger> surely she will poke me with a long stick if that was wrong ^^
[14:32] <Riddell> I expect so
[14:32] <Riddell> want me to check?
[14:33]  * Quintasan is having performance regressions in both maverick and natty
[14:33] <Quintasan> I wonder what causes them
[14:36] <Riddell> Quintasan: no I don't have natty installed
[14:38] <Quintasan> Riddell: Good, could you try one thing in QtEmu before I report a bug?
[14:39] <Riddell> what's QtEmu?
[14:40] <dantti_work> isn't it qemu?
[14:40] <Quintasan> Riddell: QT front-end for kmv/qemu
[14:41] <Riddell> so it is
[14:41] <ulysses> Riddell: I uploaded last night a new hupnp, I hope it will pass the review
[14:41] <apachelogger> hm
[14:41] <apachelogger> hooray
[14:41] <apachelogger> dantti_work: progress
[14:41] <apachelogger> but
[14:41] <apachelogger> bug!
[14:42] <Riddell> ulysses: advocated!
[14:42] <Riddell> just needs apachelogger to review too
[14:43] <ulysses> \o/
[14:43] <dantti_work> apachelogger: I'm out to lunch, bbl
[14:45] <apachelogger> dantti_work: sure, hide from me :P
[14:45] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot101.png
[14:45] <apachelogger> that is probably limited to amarok too
[14:46] <apachelogger> also I personally would argue that amarok should not change the window title unless it is certainly playing something
[14:47] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://imagebin.ca/view/sMc8vZR.html
[14:48] <Quintasan> fixxor this
[14:51] <apachelogger> dantti_work: xid bug fixed
[14:52] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I get blank page
[14:59] <apachelogger> rekonq->crash();
[14:59]  * apachelogger greps the rekonq source if they actually have such a function that gets called randomly
[14:59] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/amarok.jpeg
[15:03] <apachelogger> what is that?
[15:03] <apachelogger> oh
[15:03] <apachelogger> no
[15:03] <Quintasan> apachelogger: natty -> additional packages for amarok
[15:03] <apachelogger> oh well
[15:03] <apachelogger> we are fixing this right now
[15:03] <apachelogger> at supreme overlord level
[15:03] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you better check where that package is coming from...
[15:04] <apachelogger> either kubuntu-notification-helper is referencing unavailable packages or kubuntu-restircted-media is
[15:04] <apachelogger> or whatever that meta package is called
[15:04] <Quintasan> apachelogger: how should I know that? You are probably maintaining this :P
[15:04] <apachelogger> more likely JontheEchidna is :P
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> yeah, k-n-h
[15:50] <CIA-42> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200745 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (history.cpp history.h) Add the ability to check for invalid HistoryItems
[15:56] <CIA-42> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200747 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/history.cpp Don't get bit by uninitialized values
[16:13] <Riddell> ZhengpengHou: new nick?
[16:16] <dantti_work> apachelogger: cool :D, but why did you said it's limited to amarok?
[16:43] <Riddell> no Americans today, they must be skiving off for the day
[16:46] <Riddell> although, that JontheEchidna was committing, JontheEchidna why aren't you spending the day with your family like the rest of your country? :)
[16:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: does hupnp meet your approval?
[16:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: phonon uploaded with libphononexperimental
[17:00] <Riddell> 4.6 beta seems to run decently, at least in Xephyr
[17:00] <Riddell> qtwebkit fix uploaded so hopefully they'll be compiling in ninjas soon
[17:16] <JontheEchidna> good question:P
[17:18] <CIA-42> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200766 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/history.cpp Fix children of the HistoryItem::packageList having a space character at the front
[17:18] <JontheEchidna> Don't worry, I won't commit through dinner or anything
[17:18] <rbelem> hey guys, do you know if there is a wiki page in techbase about writing docstrings for kdelibs api?
[17:19] <Riddell> rbelem: not that I know of but ask on #kde-devel
[17:19] <JontheEchidna> rbelem: http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Library_Documentation_Policy
[17:19] <JontheEchidna> and http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/API_Documentation
[17:22] <CIA-42> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200769 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/history.cpp Use QLatin1String so we can compile with NO_CAST_FROM_ASCII
[17:23] <Riddell> rbelem: kdeedu has gained a kalgabramobile application
[17:23] <rbelem> JontheEchidna, tkx :-)
[17:23] <rbelem> Riddell, cool! :-)
[17:23] <rbelem> Riddell, where can i get the srcs?
[17:23] <rbelem> :-D
[17:24] <Riddell> rbelem: it's in kdeedu in 4.6 beta 1 which is currently being packaged by ninjas
[17:24] <rbelem> sweet :-)
[17:25] <yofel> or use project-neon-kdeedu :P
[17:27] <rbelem> mobile area is starting to get more visibility in the community
[17:28] <rbelem> i would be really nice to have, around 2012, kubuntu-mobile fully running in a mobile phone :-)
[17:29] <rbelem> it*
[17:30] <Riddell> I also noticed notmart had blogged about a Plasma Tablet user interface, time for a Kubuntu Tablet? :)
[17:34] <dantti_work> Riddell: btw will kdm show different entries for netbook and desktop editions? last time I tried there wasn't
[17:36] <Riddell> dantti_work: no we run the appropriate workspace based on what sort of computer you have at login
[17:36] <_Groo_> hi/2 all :)
[17:36] <dantti_work> cool police doing their job :P http://globonews.globo.com/videos/v/globo-news-ao-vivo/61910
[17:36] <Riddell> dantti_work: which I haven't heard any complaints about after 10.10 release so I guess it's working for people
[17:37] <dantti_work> Riddell: right, anyway I think it would be nice to be able to choose
[17:37] <yofel> there are people asking how to switch between netbook and desktop since it's a bit hard to find, but no real complains
[17:37] <Riddell> dantti_work: you can select it manually in system settings, which is the only way to use it upstream
[17:37] <_Groo_> are you guys doing the 4.6 beta 1 packages? maybe in ninja?
[17:38] <_Groo_> if so, can i test them? :)
[17:39] <Riddell> _Groo_: we are indeed, they're not yet ready for testing
[17:39] <Riddell> needs qtwebkit to compile first
[17:39] <Riddell> then everything else
[17:39] <_Groo_> Riddell: nice to know :) ill wait patiently then :)
[17:39] <Riddell> _Groo_: are you able to test natty or maverick?
[17:40] <_Groo_> Riddell: maverick for now
[17:40] <_Groo_> Riddell: and by testing i also mean the npomuk part, since i have a long experience with pet peeve bugs with it
[17:40] <_Groo_> Riddell: like the filewatcher that i always disable cause in 4.5 it kills disk I/O
[17:40] <Riddell> ok no maverick packages yet, that'll be a few days yet I think
[17:41] <_Groo_> Riddell: cant they be built in paralel?
[17:41] <Riddell> they could be but nobody is doing it
[17:41] <_Groo_> Riddell: i could get the natty sources and backport them to maverick
[17:41] <Riddell> all the Americans are busy eating turkey
[17:42] <_Groo_> Riddell: lol true :D well im portuguese and im in south america, so i dont have that problem :D
[17:42] <Riddell> you could indeed if you want to earn your ninja black belt
[17:42] <_Groo_> Riddell: if you can add me to the natty packages built, i would wait for the base to be complete and then remake them for maverick
[17:43] <_Groo_> Riddell: and start from there
[17:43] <_Groo_> Riddell: maybe ill have to backport some libs too, dont know what was added in 4.6 yet, but it should be relatively easy to do so...
[17:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lol... i cant open more than 4 tabs in the browser :P
[17:44] <Riddell> _Groo_: what's your launchpad id?
[17:45] <_Groo_> Riddell: sec
[17:46] <_Groo_> Riddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias
[17:46] <Riddell> hi bulldog98, did the beta announce page get fixed?  you said there was an error about dolphin and kdepim
[17:47] <Riddell> _Groo_: ok I added you to ~kubuntu-ninjas
[17:48] <Riddell> _Groo_: you should be able to see PPA access details at https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa
[17:48] <Riddell> you'll need to start with backporting akonadi hupnp polkit-kde-1 polkit-qt-1 soprano
[17:48] <_Groo_> Riddell: opening it now
[17:49] <_Groo_> Riddell: should i backport using my own ppa?
[17:49] <Riddell> no you can put them into the ninjas PPA
[17:49] <neversfelde> Riddell: afaik it is fixed
[17:50] <Riddell> _Groo_: so use -0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 version numbers
[17:50] <_Groo_> Riddell: can i create a private ppa (in my account), test there and then just copy it to ninjas, so i dont polute it
[17:50] <_Groo_> Riddell: ok i will
[17:50] <_Groo_> Riddell: i dont know if normal users can create private ppas anyway
[17:51] <Riddell> _Groo_: well what are you testing?
[17:51] <bulldog98> Riddell: yes
[17:51] <bulldog98> Riddell: yes it got fixed
[17:52] <_Groo_> Riddell: ill start with the backporting of akonadi hupnp polkit-kde-1 polkit-qt-1 soprano like you said, but i think its easier pbuilding them in my machine (i have a i7 quad) and then upload to my ppa to sanitize (see if all dependencies checkl, etc), so i can finally just copy them to ninja ppa, instead of doing all work directly in ninja... for purity sake... dont know if this is the right approach
[17:54] <Riddell> _Groo_: I don't see a point in having them in your PPA, ninjas is a secret PPA it's not like anyone has access to it who doen't know what they're doing
[17:54] <Riddell> so it's ok to have stuff in there which isn't yet tested as long as we know if needs testing before being made public
[17:54] <_Groo_> Riddell: ok
[17:54] <_Groo_> Riddell: ninja it will then :)
[17:55] <Riddell> _Groo_: please keep track of what you're doing on the maverick table here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[17:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: ok i will
[17:57] <Riddell> awesome, thanks _Groo_
[17:58] <bulldog98> could someone help me, I need to extract the numbers out of the following line (sed or awk): <td> <a href="/trunk/?view=log" title="View directory revision log"><strong>1200764</strong></a></td>
[17:58] <_Groo_> Riddell: ill get right on to it, im at work so i cant upload any packages (proxy), but i can copy hupnp to maverick via ppa and see if it builds correctly, if it does when i get home i sanitize the package name and reupload a clean one
[18:00] <Riddell> _Groo_: I can give you access to machines if that helps
[18:01] <_Groo_> Riddell: unless its http it wont give me much help, like an http upload or something, but when i get home if i an have access to machines wiuth pbuilder or something like that via ssh, it might help, although i normally use my machine
[18:01] <Riddell> bulldog98: sed 's,.*<strong>,,' foo | sed 's,</strong>.*,,'
[18:02] <Riddell> where foo is the file containing that string
[18:02] <Riddell> _Groo_: I can set up a machine with ssh access and you can do everything there
[18:02] <Riddell> (if it would help)
[18:02] <bulldog98> Riddell: the file is sdtin and thanks
[18:02] <_Groo_> Riddell: it will, can you send me an email with the info?
[18:02] <bulldog98> s/sdtin/stdin/
[18:04] <Riddell> _Groo_: I'd need your public ssh key
[18:04] <_Groo_> Riddell: its in my launchpad
[18:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: with my email, im, etc
[18:05] <Riddell> https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias nothing there (also "No public address provided.")
[18:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: aarrgh forgot the ssh, just did the openpgp
[18:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: im getting on to it, give me a min
[18:06]  * bulldog98 hugs Riddell
[18:06] <Riddell> ooh hugs!
[18:08] <_Groo_> Riddell: ok its there
[18:08] <_Groo_> bulldog98: Riddell preferes cookies :D
[18:09] <bulldog98> Riddell: If you attend akedemy, i’ll sponsor you cookies
[18:11] <Riddell> _Groo_: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:11] <Riddell> bulldog98: for a simple sed command?  your cookies are easy :)
[18:11] <Riddell> bulldog98: you could do some ninjas packaging in return :)
[18:12] <bulldog98> Riddell: hm I need some time to start an dev enviroment
[18:12] <Riddell> _Groo_: you've got two CPUs on that thing to use and sudo access to install what you like, do make sure to tell me when you don't need it any more, it costs a few cents per hour
[18:12] <_Groo_> Riddell: yeah i know :)
[18:12] <bulldog98> Riddell: the sed was to figure out what svn revision KDE Svn is
[18:12] <_Groo_> Riddell: but i only be able to ssh to it in 4 hours or so
[18:12] <_Groo_> Riddell: im behind a )(@*)#@*#*(()@*# proxy
[18:12] <Riddell> bulldog98: sudo debootstrap natty natty   is all it takes :)
[18:13] <_Groo_> Riddell: im downloading the sources and backporting some stuff already
[18:13] <_Groo_> Riddell: to gain some time
[18:14]  * bulldog98 writes a script to make translators able to contribute via git, so they get familar to git
[18:15] <Riddell> neversfelde: there should be a fix for the ktorrent issue on kde-packagers
[18:15] <Riddell> neversfelde: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=kdenetwork.git;a=blob;f=kdenetwork-4.5.80-libktorrent-stable.patch;h=b8edfad0a226a1bd690c85856381da653e3b5f89;hb=HEAD
[18:17] <Riddell> bulldog98: poor translators, having to use git!
[18:17]  * bulldog98 likes git
[18:17] <Riddell> I'm out for a few hours
[18:18] <Riddell> _Groo_ or bulldog98 or anyone, if you notice that libqtwebkit-dev 2.1~git20101116-0ubuntu3 has made it into natty please start retrying the build failures in kubuntu-ninjas
[18:18] <Riddell> should happen in about an hour
[18:19] <rbelem> Riddell, i think that kubuntu-mobile can be just a default settings package :-)
[18:19] <rbelem> ops...
[18:19] <rbelem> kubuntu-tablet
[18:20] <Riddell> would need some cleverness to work out when to apply that and run plasma-tablet at login
[18:37] <neversfelde> Riddell: will have a look
[18:38] <neversfelde> also googletalk seems to need more work, because they improved it upstream
[18:38] <_Groo_> Riddell: will do
[18:40] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1200784 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Move more state strings to MuonStrings, so that they can also be used in other classes
[18:40] <apachelogger> ulysses, Riddell: get-orig-source is not working properly
[18:43] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: I thought you were in string freeze
[18:43] <JontheEchidna> bulldog98: trunk isn't
[18:44] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: ok so in stable there is the beta ?
[18:44] <JontheEchidna> stable is the 1.0.x branch
[18:44] <JontheEchidna> trunk is what will become 1.1
[18:45] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: would’n it be more easy for translators to have a string freeze, so they can translate everything to get released? Maybe after an beta?
[18:46] <JontheEchidna> bulldog98: yes, I will freeze trunk at least 1 month before 1.1.0
[18:46] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: ok mail me when you freeze
[18:46] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: better mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:46] <apachelogger> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=89140&p=179226&hilit=kubuntu#p179226
[18:47] <apachelogger> can someone look at that?
[18:47] <JontheEchidna> bulldog98: yes, of course :)
[18:48] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I'm packaging kdenetwork 4.5.80 and will have a look
[18:49] <apachelogger> thx
[18:50] <neversfelde> apachelogger: do you know, if your googletalk patches went upstream?
[18:51] <apachelogger> no
[18:51] <apachelogger> supposedly they are kubuntu specific?
[18:52] <neversfelde> apachelogger: k
[18:56]  * apachelogger floats on again
[18:56] <apachelogger> Nightrose: wanna join me floating?
[18:58] <Nightrose> apachelogger: always
[18:58]  * apachelogger floats with Nightrose
[18:58] <apachelogger> Nightrose: are you still busy?
[18:59] <Nightrose> apachelogger: yea :(
[18:59] <Nightrose> boss is being a bit of a pita
[19:00] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1200785 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (9 files in 3 dirs) Initial work on the HistoryView. It basically works, but isn't sorted and doesn't have search/filter capabilities
[19:02] <apachelogger> Nightrose: we should open up our own company
[19:02] <apachelogger> Fluffy Spaceship Inc.
[19:03] <Nightrose> apachelogger: haha i _love_ it
[19:03] <Nightrose> we should totally do it
[19:03] <Nightrose> what will we be doing?
[19:04] <dantti_work> Riddell: I downloaded workspace so if I cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt will I be able to run a patched plasma?
[19:04] <_Groo_> Nightrose: hire me
[19:04] <dantti_work> oh it's searching for 4.5.3 kdelibs
[19:04] <_Groo_> Nightrose: i work for cookies
[19:05] <ulysses> apachelogger: :(
[19:06] <Nightrose> _Groo_: what can you do?
[19:06] <apachelogger> Nightrose: now that is the question I do not have an answer to
[19:06] <apachelogger> we could go into showbiz
[19:06] <dantti_work> Nightrose: surely not cookies
[19:06] <apachelogger> or produce fluffy spaceships
[19:07] <_Groo_> Nightrose: i can dance and make coffee
[19:07] <_Groo_> Nightrose: im good at making coffee but a terrible dancer, so things then to even out :D
[19:07] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot102.png
[19:07] <apachelogger> whoever wrote that is rather silly
[19:08] <_Groo_> apachelogger: lol WIN!
[19:08] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i was always for more humain error messages
[19:08] <dantti_work> Any tips or webpages on how can I hack workspace using neon builds?
[19:08] <_Groo_> apachelogger: or klingon error messages
[19:08] <apachelogger> klingon is totaly impractical
[19:09] <_Groo_> apachelogger: or even chuck norris error messages
[19:09] <_Groo_> apachelogger: its not... like this one.. you punny human, how dare you to try to fetch the friggin source!
[19:09] <yofel> dantti_work: you mean trunk workspace?
[19:09] <dantti_work> yofel: yup
[19:09] <apachelogger> Nightrose: if you wanna employ _Groo_ we probably cannot go into showbiz
[19:09] <apachelogger> _Groo_: how is your singing?
[19:09] <dantti_work> yofel: as I want to play with plasma's kickoff
[19:10] <Nightrose> apachelogger: hmmm i'm ok with not going into showbiz
[19:10] <apachelogger> shocking news everyone!
[19:10] <apachelogger> someone did not testbuild kdeartwork and now I get spam
[19:10] <_Groo_> apachelogger: even worse then my dancing.. did tou see the dancing penguim movie? i sing even worse then he does
[19:10] <yofel> dantti_work: that would be 'project-neon-kdebase' (we don't split it)  and see the packaging makefile for the build setup (let me fetch the link...)
[19:11] <_Groo_> apachelogger: we could go into pr0n business... i ear it makes good money
[19:11] <_Groo_> hear
[19:11] <dantti_work> yofel: I installed it, but when I checkout the workspace when cmake runs it still searches for the 4.5.3 kdelibs
[19:11] <apachelogger> no!
[19:11] <apachelogger> I will contribute to the might of lord google by producing more pr0n for it to distribute
[19:11] <apachelogger> !!!!
[19:12] <yofel> dantti_work: that's because you use /opt I think, but that should be /opt/project-neon
[19:12] <dantti_work> hmm
[19:12] <dantti_work> let me try again then
[19:12] <yofel> dantti_work: you'll need the exports and CMAKE stuff from here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/kdebase-ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/rules
[19:13] <dantti_work> I guess it should be using another cmake file /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake:1360
[19:13] <apachelogger> meh
[19:13] <_Groo_> apachelogger: after i upload the orig to upload only the diff.gz/dsc i use the debuild -b right?
[19:13] <apachelogger> qtcreator cmake is also on my todo
[19:13] <apachelogger> bleh meh and blah
[19:14] <dantti_work> yofel: what do I do whith that file?
[19:14] <dantti_work> just run that?
[19:14] <apachelogger> _Groo_: man dpkg-buildpackage is your friend :P
[19:14] <yofel> dantti_work: no, mom
[19:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ping
[19:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ping ping ping ping ping ping ping
[19:15] <shadeslayer> pongly
[19:15] <_Groo_> apachelogger: a simple binary answer would sufice :D
[19:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: where are me minions?
[19:15]  * apachelogger has billions of minion tasks
[19:15] <yofel> dantti_work: run line 9 - 12 in your terminal, that's environment stuff and line 20 and 21 are the cmake options you'll want to use (line 22 too probably)
[19:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: idk... the guy from college was supposed to be here.. lemme message him
[19:15] <apachelogger> _Groo_: no peopel will come along and say we are not social
[19:15]  * _Groo_ <-- unpaid minion!
[19:16] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i work with you guys for ages, i KNOW for a fact you are not social ppl :D
[19:16] <apachelogger> _Groo_: 01001001 00100000 01100001 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01110011 01100001 01111001 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101110 01101111 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100001 00100001 00100001
[19:16] <dantti_work> yofel: that's not bash lines :P
[19:16] <dantti_work> := does not assign values
[19:16] <dantti_work> -> #!/usr/bin/make -f  :P
[19:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: maybe it was the person I was mocking earlier?
[19:17]  * apachelogger needs to stop doing that
[19:17] <_Groo_> apachelogger: RTFM in binary? :D oO
[19:17] <shadeslayer> who would that be?
[19:17] <dantti_work> yofel: should I adapt that?
[19:17] <_Groo_> hmmm good idea for a t-shirt
[19:17] <apachelogger> _Groo_: 01010010 01010100 01000110 01001101
[19:17] <yofel> dantti_work: oops, sorry, convert that to bash first and then run it..
[19:17] <dantti_work> k
[19:18] <apachelogger> ulysses: when you are done with upnp, do you have other things to do?
[19:18] <shadeslayer> dhcp3-server fails on start... wth
[19:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what are the tasks
[19:18] <apachelogger> ulysses: I have a package update at hand, should not be terribly difficult
[19:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ^
[19:18] <apachelogger> akunambol to be precise
[19:19] <shadeslayer> oic
[19:19] <shadeslayer> if someone wants to do it fine with me, but if no ones available i can do it
[19:20] <yofel> dantti_work: if it still doesn't work pastebin your cmake output (and I just remembered an easier way for the env vars: install project-neon-command and source /opt/project-neon/share/project-neon/environment)
[19:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: depends on whether ulysses wants to do it or not ;)
[19:21] <yofel> errr... 'project-neon-common' not command
[19:21] <dantti_work> yofel: k, I'll install that since it didn't work :P
[19:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sure why not.. :)
[19:21] <ulysses> apachelogger: I'll go out, don't have time to do
[19:22] <dantti_work> yofel: nah.. :P
[19:22] <shadeslayer> ok.. so i get to work  on it
[19:22] <yofel> dantti_work: ok, then pastebin where it fails please
[19:22] <shadeslayer> sweet :P
[19:23] <dantti_work> yofel: http://pastebin.com/jrmFsFpT
[19:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you needz to help me with this Wireless Access point foo then
[19:23] <shadeslayer> i need make my laptop a wireless access point and share the ethernet connection
[19:24] <dantti_work> yofel: hmm I rm -rf * in build and seems to be going now..
[19:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: deal? :P
[19:24] <dantti_work> yup, now I have new errors :P
[19:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no
[19:24] <apachelogger> I refuse
[19:24] <yofel> heh
[19:24] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[19:24] <apachelogger> I will not go for blackmail
[19:24] <apachelogger> forget about it
[19:24] <apachelogger> we also need qtcreator for 10.10
[19:24] <apachelogger> we also need qt 4.7.1 for 10.10
[19:24] <shadeslayer> not blackmailing.... i dont know this server foo
[19:25] <apachelogger> ask lord google
[19:25] <shadeslayer> already doing that
[19:25] <shadeslayer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint <<< is pretty much what i want i think
[19:26] <dantti_work> yofel: it's complaining about boost now but there are like 1000 packages :P
[19:27] <yofel> dantti_work: run 'sudo apt-get build-dep project-neon-kdebase'
[19:27] <dantti_work> yofel: thanks sounds easier :D
[19:27] <shadeslayer> bahaha.. seems my card doesnt support it
[19:29] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: adhoc not supported?
[19:29] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: not that... adhoc is supported, but for some reason my Desire cant pick up adhoc wifi network, ..... wireless Access point mode isnt supported by my Intel 4965 ABGN card
[19:30] <apachelogger> Nightrose: we could form a ska band
[19:30] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: hmm right you can't emulate an AP, I thought you were willing to use adhoc for sharing connections
[19:30] <apachelogger> _Groo_: do you play an instrument?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: sadly android doesnt want to detect those :'(
[19:31] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i used to play classic guitar but as been ages, i mostly play mp3 players now
[19:31] <_Groo_> apachelogger: we could form a disco band
[19:31] <_Groo_> apachelogger: the new abba
[19:32] <_Groo_> apachelogger: or the new bee gees
[19:32] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I demand that we do not employ _Groo_ at Fluffy Spaceship Inc!!!!!
[19:32] <apachelogger> strongly
[19:32] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: doesn't android has a term?
[19:32] <_Groo_> Nightrose: ahhh nightrose... why? i like fluffy
[19:32] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: what? :P
[19:32] <dantti_work> terminal
[19:33] <_Groo_> Nightrose: i can dress myself as a fluffy spaceball and distribute panflets at the company door
[19:33] <apachelogger> I also like microsoft
[19:33] <apachelogger> yet they have rejected my application 3 times
[19:33] <_Groo_> apachelogger: oO
[19:33] <dantti_work> so you can iwconfig wificard mode adhoc?
[19:33]  * apachelogger stopped applying for a job meanwhile
[19:33] <_Groo_> apachelogger: did you attached the obligatory "i love balmer" autographed photo?
[19:34] <_Groo_> apachelogger: at the resumee?
[19:34] <Nightrose> -.-
[19:34] <apachelogger> no
[19:34] <apachelogger> I do not posses such a thing
[19:34] <apachelogger> also I do not love him
[19:34]  * apachelogger loves himself and Nightrose
[19:34] <_Groo_> apachelogger: yeah but you need to LIE in order to be hired at ms
[19:34]  * Nightrose huggles apachelogger
[19:35] <Nightrose> <3
[19:35]  * Nightrose goes to watch a movie
[19:35] <_Groo_> apachelogger: like:  do you know how to code clean code? huuuu... i sure do..
[19:35]  * apachelogger really does -.-
[19:35] <_Groo_> apachelogger: or: do you like NET.ASP? arrrghh... i mean, sure i love it
[19:35]  * apachelogger really does -.-
[19:35] <apachelogger> also it is asp.net
[19:36] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i know ;)
[19:36] <apachelogger> Nightrose: you cannot go watch the movie, we dont have a business plan yet? :(
[19:36] <_Groo_> apachelogger: its a internal joke... .NET = NotYet and net.asp = NOT ASK
[19:37] <apachelogger> must have been created when you were reaching for ballmer peak because it does not make sense :P
[19:37] <_Groo_> apachelogger: oh it does... it does :)
[19:39] <_Groo_> apachelogger: but i sense Nightrose as some prejudice against portuguese ppl
[19:40] <_Groo_> apachelogger: she doesnt want to employ me! im gonna sue fluffy spaceship inc!
[19:40] <apachelogger> try your best
[19:40] <_Groo_> apachelogger:  :D
[19:40] <apachelogger> neversfelde will be head of our legal dept
[19:41] <_Groo_> apachelogger: oO
[19:41] <apachelogger> you do not want to mess with the neversfelde!
[19:41] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: found the term? :P
[19:41] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ¬¬
[19:41] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I am a specialist in tax law :D
[19:42] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: what term?
[19:42] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: dunno it should have a terminal no?
[19:42] <apachelogger> neversfelde: _Groo_ did not know that until you mentioned it -.-
[19:42] <apachelogger> neversfelde: company -> needs to pay tax -> needs specialist in tax law
[19:42] <neversfelde> apachelogger: hehe
[19:42] <apachelogger> makes sense, does it not?
[19:42] <neversfelde> of course
[19:43] <apachelogger> I mean, we could also be one of them companies that sues other companies for copyright infringment for a living
[19:43] <apachelogger> in fact that sounds like a viable business opportunity
[19:43] <apachelogger> oh
[19:43] <apachelogger> opportunistic business
[19:43]  * apachelogger is very sad that they stopped making everything opportunistic :(
[19:43] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ah MS just bought unix rights... youll be out of business soon BUAHAHAHAHAHAAH
[19:44] <apachelogger> made my life 90% less cynical :(
[19:44] <apachelogger> _Groo_: how is that?
[19:44] <neversfelde> also I mostly work with gastronomy people, so hanging out in bars is my job. I am not very reputable^^
[19:44] <_Groo_> apachelogger: novell just went for sale
[19:44] <_Groo_> apachelogger: MS bought 880 patents from them and some rights too
[19:44] <apachelogger> I mean how will we be out of business?
[19:44] <_Groo_> apachelogger: guess who owned the unix rights
[19:45] <_Groo_> apachelogger: unix = fluffy spaceships
[19:45] <apachelogger> wah?
[19:45] <_Groo_> apachelogger: no unix no fluffy
[19:45] <apachelogger> how does a ska band have to do wit unix?
[19:45] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: http://www.androlib.com/android.application.jackpal-androidterm-zxnC.aspx
[19:45] <apachelogger> also
[19:45] <_Groo_> apachelogger: gnu started cause they wanted mroe fluffyness out of their printers
[19:45] <apachelogger> MS can go tickle my knee with them 88 patents
[19:46] <_Groo_> apachelogger: 880 :D
[19:46] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ska is all about unix
[19:46] <apachelogger> they make use it to build me a house
[19:46] <apachelogger> s/make/may
[19:46] <_Groo_> apachelogger: life resolves around unix
[19:46] <_Groo_> apachelogger: unix is god
[19:46] <_Groo_> apachelogger: long live unix
[19:46] <apachelogger> unix is the crap
[19:46] <shadeslayer> dantti_work: you need to root it to work i think
[19:47] <_Groo_> apachelogger: infidel!!!
[19:47] <dantti_work> shadeslayer: well if you had root and a term I think it would be easy for you to setup an adhoc connection
[19:48] <shadeslayer> hmm... quite possible
[19:49] <apachelogger> oh it is thursday already
[19:49] <apachelogger> time to befriend random people on facebook
[19:50] <ulysses> (:
[19:50] <_Groo_> k libpolkit might need a backport for maverick
[19:50] <_Groo_> gonna check it out and see it tonight
[19:59] <_Groo_> is the any way to copy a package from main into a ppa? i want to backport libpokit from natty to maverick just by coying the package to the ppa, instead of uploading it.. is there a way or i need to get the source and do the normal dput process?
[20:07] <_Groo_> hupnp compiles cleanly, going for soprano, libpolkit might need a backport from main, gonna check it next
[20:18] <dantti_work> yofel: for some reason when I try to lauch the plasmoid modified it seems to be using the stable one
[20:19] <yofel> and you're in neon-kde? environment set up properly?
[20:22]  * yofel wonders how much he would break if he just backported policykit 0.99 to lucid (has 0.96)
[20:23] <dantti_work> yofel: well I think it was installing on the wrong place
[20:23] <dantti_work> yofel: afaik polkit didn't change much on those releases were mostly bugfixes
[20:24] <dantti_work> but I stoped developing polkit-qt/kde some time ago :P
[20:25] <_Groo_> dantti_work: hmmm im doing the kde 4.6 backport to maverick, im gonna change the package and try to compile with 0.96
[20:26] <_Groo_> dantti_work: if it doesnt work ill have to backport 0.98/0.99
[20:33] <yofel> _Groo_: current polkit-qt-1 needs 0.98 so you'll need to backport it (I'm thinking of neon, since we have the same problem)
[20:34] <_Groo_> yofel: so backport it is :P
[21:00] <_Groo_> btw ppl, ScottK  and all, im just copying some packages to my personall ppa to test the build in maverick WHILE at work.. ill delete them in a few... its just a test...
[21:00] <_Groo_> so no one needs to freek out with name mantaining and such, they are short lived :)
[21:03] <_Groo_> ScottK: btw, im using your soprano to make the backport, i change the oringinal owner to my name? whats the default behaviour?
[21:09] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ping ping ping
[21:09] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ive enabled debug mode over USB, but dmesg doesnt show the device being picked up, neither does adb list the device
[21:10] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: you have a defective usb port or device
[21:10] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: i could root the device ......
[21:11] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: if it doesnt even show up in lsusb (which should) since its just the id of the usb device, it means your device is broken or not attached properly (default cable for ex)
[21:11] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: lsusb shows the lower layer, it it deosnt show up its broken
[21:11] <shadeslayer> lsusb shows the device
[21:11] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i mean defective cabling not default lol
[21:12] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ahh ok,
[21:12] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: what device it is anyway?
[21:12] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: the HTC Desire
[21:12] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: did you update usbids?
[21:12] <shadeslayer> uh.. what are those?
[21:13] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: is the htc in default usb hd mode?
[21:13] <shadeslayer> yes
[21:13] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: do an update-usbids as root
[21:13] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: it downloads the newer ids for usb devices
[21:13] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[21:13] <shadeslayer> hold on :)
[21:13] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: its very fast, its only a few k.s
[21:14] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: one of the issues is that ive made a custom udev rule for it
[21:14] <shadeslayer> but... i dont think its working
[21:15] <shadeslayer> SUBSYSTEM=="usb",ATTRS(idVendor)=="0bb4",SYMLINK+="android_adb",MODE="0666"
[21:15] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: after you made the udev rule, did you restart udev?
[21:15] <shadeslayer> yep
[21:15] <shadeslayer> i think the idVendor is different
[21:15] <_Groo_> what lsusb shows?
[21:16] <shadeslayer> Bus 002 Device 037: ID 0bb4:0c87 High Tech Computer Corp. Desire (Debug)
[21:16] <shadeslayer> hmm no
[21:16] <_Groo_> the id sohouldnt be the entire string? 0bb4:0c87?
[21:16] <shadeslayer> idk... i thought it was just supposed to be 0bb4
[21:17] <shadeslayer> since the last part is the product....
[21:17] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: yeah i know, but udev is ... strange... let me check something
[21:18] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: it used to show http://pastebin.ca/2002296
[21:18] <shadeslayer> now it shows nothing
[21:18] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.ca/2002317
[21:19] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ahhh the first one, you didtn had permissions, dont know for what
[21:20] <_Groo_> have you tried running adb as sudo or root and see what it gives?
[21:20] <shadeslayer> also ... im updating the sdk now
[21:20] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: nope didnt try that out
[21:20] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: its a permission problem
[21:20] <_Groo_> run adb as sudo and see what happens
[21:20] <shadeslayer> thats why i wrote that udev rule
[21:20] <shadeslayer> ok
[21:20] <_Groo_> and by before you mean before you made the udev rule, right?
[21:20] <shadeslayer> yep
[21:20] <_Groo_> remove the udev rule for now
[21:20] <_Groo_> and run as root
[21:21] <_Groo_> if you can see it as root is a permission problem
[21:21] <_Groo_> and you can see the default udev log to see how udev is mounting the device, and just change the apropriate rule thats already in place
[21:23] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: still shows no permissions
[21:23] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: as root? oO
[21:23] <shadeslayer> yes
[21:23] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: what udev log shows?
[21:24] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i gotta go, but its definitely a permission problem
[21:24] <shadeslayer> hold on
[21:24] <shadeslayer> ok
[21:24] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: http://pastebin.com/7AQGmbM7
[21:24] <shadeslayer> udev log
[21:26] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: gotta go, but by seeing the log i didnt find the 0bb4 id
[21:26] <_Groo_> so udev its seeing it
[21:26] <_Groo_> something is wrong
[21:26] <_Groo_> seeya later
[21:26] <shadeslayer> cya
[21:27] <shadeslayer> http://d.android.com/guide/developing/device.html#setting-up says the id should be 0bb
[21:27] <shadeslayer> *obb4
[21:27] <shadeslayer> bah... you know what i mean :P
[21:52] <dantti_work> yofel: funny I set the cmake prefix to neon, and it installed in /usr/local, after a reboot my system was a mess :P
[21:53] <yofel> o.O
[21:55] <dantti_work> turns out I ended up loging in 4.6 which for some reason seems much faster than 4.5 (maybe because it's not the complete env..)
[21:58] <dantti_work> yofel: btw thanks for helping me out :D my precious and so long waited feature is done :D http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopzl3562
[21:59] <yofel> cool :D
[22:00] <dantti_work> yofel: yup much :D
[22:00] <dantti_work> I've been wainting to add that feature 2 years ago
[22:00] <dantti_work> that was the reason I wrote KPK :P
[22:02] <yofel> hahaha
[22:03] <dantti_work> waiting for aseigo's approval :D
[22:49] <Riddell> evening
[22:50] <Riddell> qu'est-ce qu'il se passe
[22:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apachelogger i haz new minion for you
[22:51] <Riddell> oh?
[22:52] <shadeslayer> hold on.. he's just coming in :)
[22:52]  * shadeslayer pokes apachelogger
[22:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[22:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^  aakshay is from my college
[22:53]  * Riddell high fives aakshay
[22:54] <aakshay> hi riddell
[22:54] <Riddell> hi aakshay, you're a kubuntu user?
[22:54] <aakshay> ino i m using ubuntu
[22:55] <aakshay> i want to work with kubuntu packaging
[22:55] <aakshay> so can u plz suggest how can i start?
[22:56] <Riddell> aakshay: do you know anything about packaging?
[22:57] <aakshay> Ridell: yes. i have read the ubuntu packaging guide. and tried the basic example provided
[22:58] <Riddell> aakshay: how come you want to work with kubuntu packaging if you don't use kubuntu?
[23:00] <aakshay> Riddell: i come to know about kubuntu from my friend.. he is working on it
[23:01] <Riddell> aakshay: from Rohan?  he's a funky guy
[23:01] <aakshay> Riddell: after he told me, i found it intresting and start reading the guide
[23:01] <aakshay> Riddell: ya he is....
[23:02] <Riddell> aakshay: are you on maverick or natty?
[23:04] <aakshay> Riddell: no.. i am using lucid lynx
[23:04] <Riddell> aakshay: do you know how to make a chroot?
[23:06] <aakshay> Riddell: yes..
[23:06] <Riddell> aakshay: do you have a public ssh key?
[23:06] <aakshay> No i have not generated by now
[23:07] <Riddell> aakshay: do you have a launchpad.net account?
[23:08] <aakshay> Riddell: no i don't have
[23:09] <shadeslayer> afaik no SSH/GPG keys
[23:09] <shadeslayer> so i think we should get him setup with those along with a LP account :)
[23:10] <Riddell> yes first task is make an account on launchpad.net and make ssh and gpg keys and put them in it
[23:10] <shadeslayer> aakshay: https://launchpad.net/
[23:11] <shadeslayer> !gpg | aakshay
[23:11] <Riddell> ooh nifty
[23:11] <aakshay> Riddell:ok.. i will create account on it and get the ssh/gpg key
[23:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did you know the depreceated edge.lp ? .. i just saw it on their blog
[23:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes, no more confusing URLs
[23:11] <shadeslayer> whee
[23:12] <shadeslayer> so people who join the beta program get access to edge stuff?
[23:12] <shadeslayer> or do they just serve edge
[23:13] <Riddell> I'm not sure
[23:13] <aakshay> Riddell: after creating the account and key, i will come back here
[23:14]  * shadeslayer is too tired to investigate
[23:14] <Riddell> aakshay: let us know if you have any questions
[23:15] <Riddell> shadeslayer: isn't it about 4:40 in the morning?
[23:15] <shadeslayer> yep :P
[23:15] <shadeslayer> took me 5 hours to figure out what i was doing wrong with adb
[23:15] <aakshay> Riddell: ya.. thanx...
[23:19] <Riddell> !ssh
[23:19] <Riddell> aakshay: ^^
[23:19] <Riddell> !sshd
[23:19] <Riddell> hmm, nothing about how to make a key there
[23:20] <Riddell> although launchpad should have links
[23:20] <Riddell> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[23:20] <Riddell> aakshay: there it is ^^
[23:23] <aakshay> Riddell: yep.. i will create key using this link.. just about to done with creating account
[23:23] <ZhengpengHou> Riddell: no
[23:23] <ZhengpengHou> Riddell: re-setup irssi
[23:24] <ZhengpengHou> :)
[23:27] <shadeslayer> night all
[23:27] <Riddell> night shadeslayer
[23:27] <Riddell> tsk qtwebkit needs more fixing
[23:42]  * ryanakca wonders why all kubuntu-ninjas were made admins of ~kubuntu-mobile


[03:33] <tsimonq2> Would anyone happen to know how often the Launchpad publisher runs?
[03:54] <wgrant> tsimonq2: Tha PPA publisher? Usually every 5-15 minutes.
[03:54] <tsimonq2> wgrant: I mean the archive one but that's good to know too ;)
[03:56] <wgrant> tsimonq2: For the Ubuntu prinary archive it is quite variable, depending on how much it has to do 10-60 minutes is normal
[03:57] <tsimonq2> wgrant: Out of curiosity, how is that determined?
[03:57] <wgrant> tsimonq2: It mostly depends on the number of packages across the dirty suites
[03:58] <wgrant> Index generation with apt-ftparchive is the slow bit, nornally
[03:58] <tsimonq2> Hm ok
[03:59] <tsimonq2> Thanks
[12:12] <Anon_Linux> hello
[12:16] <cjwatson> hello
[12:17] <Anon_Linux> I translated the Transmission https://launchpad.net/transmission-remote-gtk
[12:17] <Anon_Linux> and how does updating the translations work?
[12:18] <cjwatson> it's probably best to start at https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/ and then ask if you have specific questions not answered there
[12:18] <Anon_Linux> ok
[12:18] <Anon_Linux> thanks
[12:19] <cjwatson> I expect it will be up to the project maintainer to pull in translations, given that the project's code is hosted on github
[12:19] <cjwatson> you'll probably have to poke them directly
[12:20] <Anon_Linux> I translated into my native language
[12:21] <Anon_Linux> I helped there in translations because it is "Free" translation
[12:21] <Anon_Linux> OBS: My language is Portuguese Brazilian.
[12:22] <Anon_Linux> and I just had this doubt ... if the translations already have immediate effect or the mentenedor has to approve
[17:44] <ahasenack> is there a way to list a "package set" in launchpad, regarding upload permissions?
[17:44] <ahasenack> I want to see which packages are contained in the ubuntu server package set
[17:45] <ahasenack> like the packagesets in this output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26126712/
[17:46] <ahasenack> what are the packages that members of ubuntu-server-dev can upload, for example
[17:51] <cjwatson> edit-acl, from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools
[17:54] <cjwatson> ahasenack: so "edit-acl -S bionic -P ubuntu-server query" in this case
[17:55] <ahasenack> cjwatson: thanks, will try
[17:56] <ahasenack> cjwatson: thanks, that's exactly it
[18:35] <rbasak> ahasenack: there's also http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/bionic/ubuntu-server
[18:35] <ahasenack> rbasak: but the authoritative source is the output of that edit-acl command, right
[18:36] <rbasak> Yeah. Presumably that list is generated from edit-acl or similar.


[01:45] <nigelb> cjohnston: ugh. I'll look into it.
[16:02] <mhall119> cjohnston: did summit get a new release?  something's broken
[16:04] <cjohnston> whats broken
[16:05] <mhall119> looks like the meeting view pages: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20590/foundations-roundtable-monday/
[16:05] <mhall119> NoReverseMatch: Reverse for 'summit.schedule.views.attendee_review' with arguments '(u'uds-q', 20590, u'foundations-roundtable-monday')' and keyword arguments '{}' not found.
[16:06] <cjohnston> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/production/revision/190#summit/schedule/templates/schedule/meeting.html
[16:06] <cjohnston> that would be my guess
[16:07] <mhall119> is that a recent change?
[16:08] <cjohnston> well.. it was just released
[16:12] <cjohnston> mhall119: its working locally
[16:12] <mhall119> yeah, I've asked deej to reboot apache on that box
[16:13] <cjohnston> nope
[16:14] <cjohnston> mhall119: the error changed
[16:15] <mhall119> yeah, I see that
[16:15] <cjohnston> it needs a migrate
[16:15] <cjohnston> I guess I missed that in the instructions
[16:15] <cjohnston> :-(
[16:15] <mhall119> better than a rollback though, if it works
[16:19] <cjohnston> mhall119: how does that look for you
[16:51] <mhall119> yup
[16:51] <mhall119> good


[11:18] <AlexExtreme> will logd ever have the functionality to replace sysklogd?
[11:19] <Keybuk> that's not the plan
[11:19] <Keybuk> I'd rather sysklogd grew the functionality to replace logd ;)
[11:19] <AlexExtreme> heh, ok
[11:20] <thom> can we bin both and use syslog-ng? :-)
[11:21] <Md> looks like a good plan
[11:22] <AlexExtreme> yeah, syslog-ng is better ;)
[11:22] <Keybuk> thom: if it's better, sure
[11:24] <AlexExtreme> i'll look around at it when i get home
[11:25] <AlexExtreme> anyway
[11:25] <AlexExtreme> bbl, got a few lessons now
[11:25] <Keybuk> AlexExtreme: not much, I suspect
[11:25] <Keybuk> it needs to cope with /var/log not being writable, and buffer into memory if not
[11:25] <Keybuk> and needs to have some mechanism to log things to a particular "job name"
[11:29] <thom> the latter is probably easy
[11:29] <thom> dunno about the former
[11:30] <Keybuk> I must admit, I've not looked at syslog-ng
[11:30] <Keybuk> I'd hope it has more than LOG_LOCAL0 thru 7, though
[11:30] <Keybuk> some nice way for apache to be apache, not LOCAL4 :p
[11:31] <Keybuk> briefly looking over the FAQ, I'd guess one would just need to write an upstart source
[11:33] <thom> yeah, that was the conclusion i was reaching
[06:10] <AlexExtreme> yawn
[06:10] <AlexExtreme> let's take a look at syslog-ng then
[06:18] <AlexExtreme> Keybuk: have you had time to take a look at the patches i submitted on launchpad? or are you still busy with other stuff?


[01:37] <Diablo-D3> wow
[01:37] <Diablo-D3> kubuntu-desktop is almost installable
[01:38] <Diablo-D3> the only thing that needs fixed is kde-guidance and pyton2.4-kde3 need to be rebuilt, and apt-get needs to be convinced libakode provides akode.
[01:38] <flosoft> ???
[01:59] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: you're almost done! ;)
[02:15] <raphink> go go go Riddell :)=
[03:20] <flosoft> hey
[03:20] <flosoft> I found a bug
[03:20] <flosoft> in kio_imap4
[03:20] <jpatrick> and....
[03:20] <jpatrick> what is it?
[03:21] <flosoft> if you have an IMAP account which is not valid in Kmail ... it starts opening several threads and starts using alot of CPU
[03:21] <flosoft> it takes some time though
[06:40] <Riddell> mornfall: did you update DapperPackageManager?
[06:40] <mornfall> Riddell: gah not yet
[06:40] <mornfall> Riddell: i suck
[06:41] <mornfall> is there a deadline?
[06:43] <_freelove> hi riddell:)
[06:44] <_freelove> :(
[06:45] <jpatrick> (I'm not Riddell but....) hello _freelove
[06:45] <_freelove> jpatrick: atleast someone responded:)
[06:46] <jpatrick> _freelove: Riddell is busy with xpdf/kpdf thingys
[06:46] <_freelove> i see
[06:47] <jpatrick> I think...
[06:47] <_freelove> i installed edubuntu today...then kde.......its been a nice smooth ride:)
 if you have an IMAP account which is not valid in Kmail ... it starts opening several threads and starts using alot of CPU
[06:48] <Diablo-D3> flosoft: it usually catches itself though
[06:48] <_freelove> i'll be going to bed now......goodnight all.....hope u all make dapper rock:D
[06:48] <Diablo-D3> night _freelove
[06:49] <_freelove> :)
[06:59] <Riddell> mornfall: mdz is going on holiday on tuesday until the new year
[07:14] <mornfall> Riddell: i'll fix it over weekend
[07:19] <mornfall> Riddell: i hate administrative :p
[07:19] <mornfall> Riddell: (especially while trying to meet deadlines)
[07:23] <Riddell> yeah
[07:42] <seth_k> hi Riddell, do you have three minutes?
[07:42] <Riddell> seth_k: I think I actually might
[07:42] <seth_k> http://librarian.launchpad.net/1189735/noteedit.debdiff
[07:42] <seth_k> if you look at the bottom of that file, very bottom
[07:43] <seth_k> there's a dpatch patch
[07:43] <seth_k> is it necessary? It seems kinda useless
[07:43] <seth_k> but it has the word "kde" in its name so I figured you might know ;)
[07:45] <Riddell> seth_k: all it's doing is renaming a Makefile.am variable, so I don't see any need of it
[07:45] <seth_k> odd
[07:45] <seth_k> alright, thanks
[07:45] <Riddell> seth_k: what does the changelog say?
[07:46] <seth_k> Include patch for noteedit/icons/Makefile.am to build with acinclude.m4.in from kde svn
[07:47] <seth_k> I'll try removing it :)
[07:47] <Riddell> seth_k: possibly KDE doesn't like naming Makefile.am variables "data"
[07:49] <jpatrick> Riddell: are there any popular package requests?
[07:51] <Riddell> 18:38 < Telex4> Riddell: I'm a bit of a wesnoth addict, which is on 1.0 in breeze, 1.0.1 in dapper and 1.0.2 as src from
[07:51] <Riddell>                 wesnoth.org
[07:51] <Riddell> 18:40 < Telex4> then there's the lack of enblend, hugin & autopano-sift for my panorama needs
[07:51] <Riddell> I don't think any of them are KDE bits though
[07:55] <seth_k> i saw hugin on revu once upon a time
[07:55] <seth_k> must still be there, abandoned
[08:29] <Riddell> jpatrick: fancy writing a main inclusion report for moodin
[08:29] <Riddell> jpatrick: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue
[08:29] <Riddell> jpatrick: rationale: I just added it to the kubuntu seed
[08:39] <jpatrick> Riddell: what should the name be?: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionKSplashMoodin ?
[08:41] <Riddell> yeah
[08:41] <Riddell> MainInclusionReportKSplashMoodin
[08:44] <jpatrick> created
[08:45] <Riddell> jpatrick: Rationale is that it's in the kubuntu seeds
[08:45] <Riddell> add to queue
[08:45] <Riddell> thanks
[08:47] <jpatrick> welcome
[08:50] <seth_k|away> jpatrick, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2005-December/002569.html
[08:51] <jpatrick> hmmm..
[08:51] <jpatrick> someone beat me to it
[08:51] <seth_k|away> crimsun
[08:51] <seth_k|away> == daniel chen
[08:51] <jpatrick> I know
[08:52] <seth_k|away> just thought you might want to know before you wasted time working on it :)
[08:52] <seth_k|away> back to work for me
[08:52] <jpatrick> "there's plenty of fish upstream"
[09:15] <jpatrick> DoeRayMe: hello there
[09:16] <DoeRayMe> hey
[09:25] <jpatrick> is there something wrong with the wiki?
[09:28] <DoeRayMe> dont think so
[09:29] <jpatrick> a the pretty blue stuffs gone....
[09:29] <jpatrick> all*
[09:31] <jpatrick> ah it's back now :)
[11:04] <flosoft> Riddell: u there?


[22:11] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: ubuntustudio 20.10: when starting the installer, it takes a long time for the image to show up on the first page. Is this downloaded from somewhere? or just the usb stick?
[22:17] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: the booted ISO looks good, Very close to 20.04. The install slide show looks good too.
[22:19] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: The create sound slide shows off Calf plugins... which do not come with Studio  ;)
[22:19]  * OvenWerks goes out with wife...
[23:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: That first image is on the disk, but that's just Calamares behavior. The sound slide, RE: Calf: I don't care, it's just an example. :)
[23:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: What Calamares is doing right then isn't just loading that first image, it's also loading every module that it needs to operate in the way it was programmed.
[23:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ubiquity does something similar, just later on.


[00:24] <Armageddon> i never knew this channel existed :/
[00:25] <Armageddon> hello all :)
[00:25]  * gorthx waves
[00:25] <Armageddon> guys i have a Toshiba A300D-17G
[00:25] <Armageddon> with a phoenix bios (unfortunatly)
[00:27] <Armageddon> i have a problem with bluetooth, shutdown push button (so the computer restarts all the time) and the monitor is not defined
[00:29] <Armageddon> any idea guys ?
[01:32] <DidymusRex> hello, looking for information gettin blutooth working on netbook
[01:35] <Armageddon> how do i install ACPI_TOSHIBA ?
[01:42] <DidymusRex> looking for help with bluetooth keyboard
[01:44] <Armageddon> well bluetooth, shutdown push button, suspend, hybernate, and screen
[01:45] <Armageddon> DidymusRex: what laptop ?
[01:52] <DidymusRex> asus eeepc901a with a targus acb1001us bluetooth adapter (no built-in bt)
[01:53] <DidymusRex> sorry, thats a 900a, not 901
[01:56] <DidymusRex> kb is a VKB virtual keyboard (the laser one that projects on the desktop)