[03:55] <sproingie> gt500: my experience is with ati, so i'm not much help with the commands in the nvidia part
[03:55] <durt> Digo_rp: add: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted, and deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:55] <nightair> test34, #gnome on freenode or #gnome on the gnome irc server. maybe more peopleon the gnome irc server I'd imagine
[03:55] <gt500> sproingie ok
[03:55] <evil_k> how to i change my resolution?
[03:55] <gt500> sproingie well it should be easy
[03:55] <edgardo> Hola! Buenas Noches...
[03:55] <nalioth> you guys paste your stuff into a pastebin or use /pm or /query
[03:55] <cesarin> edgardo: este no es el canal para espaol
[03:55] <jpmea> holas
[03:55] <cesarin> entra a ubuntu-es
[03:56] <Digo_RP> tnx a lot
[03:56] <fmasi> can some one help me whith vsftpd ?
[03:56] <_blake> I am trying to get aimsniff to work on our network, but i keep getting this error "Error opening pcap: bind: Network is down"  could it be because i am trying to sniff my wireless device?
[03:56] <nalioth> cesarin: esta #ubuntu-es
[03:56] <jpmea> alguien sabe cual es el repositorio para actualizar al gaim?
[03:56] <edgardo> Gracias, hasta pronto!
[03:56] <nalioth> !es
[03:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:56] <jpmea> me salta un error de gaim:
[03:56] <jpmea>   Depende: gaim-data (=1:1.4.0-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1) pero se va a instalar 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.4
[03:56] <evil_k> ok figured it out
[03:57] <cesarin> nalioth,  thats what Im telling him
[03:57] <durt> !start a language war
[03:57] <ubotu> ADA is better than JavaScript!
[03:57] <durt> thats not what i meant ubotu...
[03:58] <cesarin> silly bot.. java is not for mirc programs :P
[03:58] <fmasi> my vsftpd whont start why ? "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[03:58] <fmasi> "
[03:58] <gt500> Can anybody help me install 3d accelerator for my graphics card??????/
[03:59] <test34> nightair, that was #gnome on freenode, I will try gnome on gnome network, because I didnt see my problem in the bug list you just found
[03:59] <durt> gt500: what kind of card?
[03:59] <WebLOCH> just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the "Yes" script is for?
[03:59] <gt500> geforce fx
[03:59] <gt500> durt geforce
[03:59] <durt> get nvidia-glx
[04:00] <Madpilot> !tell gt500 about nvidia
[04:00] <gt500> durt it doesnt work
[04:00] <elad`> In xchat, how do I list channel, but filter the results according to a certain word?
[04:00] <sproingie> WebLOCH: it sends an infinite series of 'yes' to stdout.  or whatever you tell it to
[04:00] <elad`> (Like mIRC does automatically)
[04:00] <cesarin> I should learn to not erase the logs >_<
[04:00] <gt500> durt that doesnt work
[04:00] <cesarin> I forgot what was that trillian-like program for linux
[04:00] <WebLOCH> sproingie, yeah i noticed, just havent been able to use it yet
[04:00] <gt500> Madpilot doesn't work
[04:00] <cesarin> I only remember it starts with "K" >_<
[04:00] <durt> gt500 yes it does, whats the problem?
[04:00] <gt500> Madpilot i am there right now
[04:00] <gt500> durt it says command not found
[04:01] <nightair> test34, yea on this page they show all their channels on their server http://gnomesupport.org/wiki/index.php/IrcChannels
[04:01] <sproingie> WebLOCH: you pipe it in to programs that prompt you endlessly to just answer yes to everything.  it's kind of useless these days
[04:01] <durt> gt500, what command?
[04:01] <gt500> durt alec@alec:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:01] <gt500> Password:
[04:01] <gt500> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> i have a system that boots but hangs at snd-hda-intel...... is there a way to turn this off?
[04:01] <prabu^> anyone got Tomcat 5.0.28 + MySQL working ?
[04:01] <WebLOCH> sproingie,  yes I know lol, I was just saying I couldnt figure out HOW to set the target for output
[04:01] <shaoqi> hi. how come i cannot copy files or install files into my system? It says I don't have access. How to solve this? Thanks.
[04:01] <sproingie> WebLOCH: you pipe it
[04:01] <WebLOCH> like..
[04:02] <WebLOCH> blah blah | yes
[04:02] <sproingie> no
[04:02] <sproingie> yes | blah blah
[04:02] <WebLOCH> ahh
[04:02] <sproingie> yes will actually repeat all its args
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> !tell shaoqi about sudo
[04:02] <durt> gt500: have you edited xorg.conf so that the driver is "nvidia" and not "nv"?
[04:03] <gt500> durt no
[04:03] <gt500> durt how do i do that
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, did you try using the sudo command?
[04:03] <shaoqi> no. i'm still new to linux.
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:03] <elad`> Name a flashget like application for Linux.
[04:03] <shaoqi> so i see installation cant be done like this.
[04:03] <fmasi> can some one give me some help whith vsftpd ?
[04:04] <shaoqi> must be using this sudo command only?
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> !sudo
[04:04] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, look at that url
[04:04] <shaoqi> yup, i'm reading it. thanks..
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, yes.. to protect your system
[04:04] <shaoqi> can i logon to the admin account by default?
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> Linux is much more protective of the sytem than that other OS
[04:04] <gt500> durt please dont bail out on me
[04:04] <shaoqi> i see..
[04:04] <jsubl2> osx ships the same way.. you use sudo by default
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you can open a terminal and type
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> sudo -s
[04:05] <gt500> Can anybody help me install 3d accelerator for my graphics card??????/
[04:05] <durt> gt500, "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", scroll down to the device line for the card and change the "nv" to "nvidia"
[04:05] <sproingie> i'm told windows vista makes creating a non-administrator account non-optional on install
[04:05] <shaoqi> what does that do?
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> then work from that during your session to open stuff like synaptic, etc.
[04:05] <sproingie> and has most programs including installers run as a non-admin
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, acts like the system administrator
[04:05] <shaoqi> ic..
[04:06] <sproingie> now that windows has figured out POLA, i guess they'll spend the next 20 years patching privilege escalation bugs just like unix
[04:06] <cesarin> btw, how .BIN files should be transformed into DEB ?
[04:06] <shaoqi> so in linux, most things are done in terminal, rather than using gui?
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> you can do them in gui
[04:06] <cesarin> shaoqi: just those who needs higher privileges
[04:06] <evil_k> how do i find my other partitions in the file browser?
[04:06] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, not necessarily, but its faster
[04:07] <gt500> durt okay done
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> even MS is realizing this fact
[04:07] <sproingie> shaoqi: most system admin stuff.  there's gui apps for most of it, but most people experienced enough to help are used to the commandline versions
[04:07] <test34> shaoqi, that is what ubuntu tries to change I think
[04:07] <cesarin> evil_k,  NTFS partitions are not visible, unless you install the patch :P
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> yea sproingie CLI rocks
[04:07] <HATTMAN> How do you find out your hostname for installation?
[04:07] <evil_k> what about my fat32 partitions?
[04:07] <shaoqi> oh. ok.. thanks..
[04:07] <shaoqi> then i need to learn more about those commands
[04:07] <evil_k> and where do i find the ntfs patch?
[04:07] <sproingie> gui admin apps have one advantage: a decent gui makes it impossible to create a nonsensical config file
[04:08] <ubercompuser> i cant get firefox to start. can somebody help me. it also wont upgrade
[04:08] <shaoqi> i'm totally new to this shell command thing
[04:08] <Madpilot> shaoqi: for adding programs, you can use Synaptic for GUI - go System menu - Admin - Synpatic Package Manager
[04:08] <cesarin> !tell evil_k about ntfs
[04:08] <durt> gt500, and restart x (ctrl-alt-bkspace) to see if it works
[04:08] <cesarin> that thingie is preety easy to install to be honest
[04:08] <shaoqi> madpilot, thanks for this alternative..
[04:08] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, its easy to pick up if you just sit in linux for a couple of days
[04:08] <theconartist> what packages in a fresh 5.10 install do apm/apci interfacing
[04:08] <evil_k> thanks
[04:08] <shaoqi> webloch, yeah, i guess so. that's what i'm going to do :)
[04:09] <HATTMAN> Does anyone know how to find out your hostname for installation?
[04:09] <sproingie> technically you can admin nt completely from the CLI, but some of the things aren't even named, and you end up using GUID's
[04:09] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, the most important things to remember are "sudo" and "man"
[04:09] <Madpilot> !telll shaoqi about cli
[04:09] <cesarin> anyone got the notification of new patches of phytoon?
[04:09] <IceDragon> Hey
[04:09] <shaoqi> !tell shaoqi about man
[04:09] <ubercompuser> has anybidy had a problem with firefox since the upgarde?
[04:10] <JosephB> !tell josephb about backports
[04:10] <shaoqi> lol, wahat is man?
[04:10] <Madpilot> shaoqi: the links ubotu just sent you have good basic information on the Linux command line stuff
[04:10] <IceDragon> I have a file (cedega.tgz) on my desktop, how would I go about installing it?
[04:10] <gt500> durt i run the command again right
[04:10] <sproingie> ubercompuser: i had a temporary problem with it segfaulting.  permissions problems on fonts
[04:10] <knewt> is there any way to stop the ubuntu installer from trying to install a kernel?
[04:10] <IceDragon> In the archive is a usr folder
[04:10] <shaoqi> yeah. got it.. but what is man?
[04:10] <cesarin> IceDragon,  that file is compressed, I think you have to use the "TAR" command
[04:10] <IceDragon> and folders pretaining to my root usr folder etc...
[04:10] <ubercompuser> sproingie, can i message you the log?
[04:10] <gt500> durt root@alec:/home/alec # sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:10] <gt500> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> !man
[04:10] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nomasteryoda
[04:10] <IceDragon> ok
[04:10] <Madpilot> shaoqi: "man" is the command to find the manual files
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[04:10] <WebLOCH> shaoqi,  man is manual
[04:10] <sproingie> ubercompuser: use pastebin
[04:10] <durt> gt500, no, youve just done what that command is supposed to do
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, type man man
[04:11] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, so you type it before a command, like "man cp"
[04:11] <ubercompuser> pastebin?????
[04:11] <kairu0> what is the best WMV3 player for ubuntu?
[04:11] <gt500> ooo okay
[04:11] <gt500> ok brb
[04:11] <brownie17> if i want to download a new version for Gaim, then should i download the redhat fedora or "autopackage" file?
[04:11] <shaoqi> ubotu says there's no such word when i type "man"
[04:11] <ubotu> shaoqi: Not a clue
[04:11] <IceDragon> TAR command not found
[04:11] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, that will bring up the user manual for the cp or copy command
[04:11] <Madpilot> shaoqi:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands - there's a short item on "man" there
[04:11] <sproingie> nomasteryoda: sadly, 'man man' is a prime example of an overly technical manpage
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, in your terminal
[04:11] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, remember it is case sensitive
[04:11] <durt> gt500, but you might not have the package installed or something if you cant run that command
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> sproingie, i know
[04:11] <evil_k> ok.. how to i run scripts?
[04:11] <brownie17> Madpilot, tell ubotu that
[04:11] <IceDragon> cesarin, TAR Command not found
[04:11] <shaoqi> yeah. i remember that, case sensitive:)
[04:11] <theconartist> during install of ubuntu i chose not to configure atm, now that the isntall is done it wont even recognize it
[04:11] <drummer87> hey, i need help with firefox.. apt updated to 1.0.7 from 1.0.6(backports) and gave an error, now firefox won't start and i can't reinstall 1.0.6 - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/372411
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, how about try "man sudo"
[04:12] <durt> evil_k: sh whatever.sh
[04:12] <sproingie> nomasteryoda: bash needs to let go of 'help' and just let that be an alias for man that searches a special manpage dir first
[04:12] <Madpilot> brownie17: good idea... one sec...
[04:12] <cesarin> IceDragon,  sorry man but im new to linux too, maybe if you ask nalioth ?
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> yes
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> i agree
[04:12] <IceDragon> hmmk
[04:12] <sproingie> and frankly the man viewer needs hypertext, it's freaking embarrassing that DOS 6.0 has a better help system
[04:12] <shaoqi> not a clue
[04:12] <cesarin> nalioth,  = PRO :P
[04:12] <shaoqi> momasteryoday, not a clue, it says
[04:12] <IceDragon> nalioth, How would I install a tgz file in my desktop folder?
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, what was the question
[04:12] <ubercompuser> it says broken pipe!!!!
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, where did you ask?
[04:12] <brownie17> can somebody help me? i want to download the new Gaim version, should i download the "fedora", "redhat" or the "autopackage" file?
[04:12] <shaoqi> privmsg
[04:13] <WebLOCH> sproingie, better still i think it needs to make use of TeX/LaTeX
[04:13] <Madpilot> !+man
[04:13] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man man" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[04:13] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, I have a cedega tar archive that I would like to install
[04:13] <drummer87> someone??
[04:13] <IceDragon> And I dont want to use apt-get
[04:13] <sproingie> WebLOCH: html would be fine.  plain text is fine.  it just needs to be informative.
[04:13] <cesarin> ok, how dumb I am
[04:13] <brownie17> Madpilot, good job
[04:13] <cesarin> finally managed to find the JAVA package on synaptic
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, well, since it it is a tar, you would extract to your folder
[04:13] <evil_k> thanks durt
[04:13] <cesarin> I only had to force it via "installa pplications"
[04:14] <knewt> no-one has any suggestions?
[04:14] <cesarin> and install the correct "multiverse" supository :P
[04:14] <Madpilot> brownie17: thanks
[04:14] <Iamgoodstuff> anyone willing to give me some help with ubuntu liveCd
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> and IceDragon you need to add the "build-essential" packages
[04:14] <WebLOCH> cesarin, theres a guide on how to install it
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> using apt-get
[04:14] <sproingie> actually man's manpage isn't too bad -- it has examples
[04:14] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, I know, I can extract it, but I cant get access privelages to install it
[04:14] <cesarin> WebLOCH, : I followed it, but its a total crap to be honest
[04:14] <brownie17> drummer, i might be able to help you
[04:14] <cesarin> WebLOCH, it confused more than it helped
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, that is using sudo
[04:14] <IceDragon> I am logged in as root through the terminal
[04:14] <Madpilot> sproingie: "man intro" is also good
[04:14] <WebLOCH> cesarin, worked okay for me, if yo get stuck after this ill try and help
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> !sudo
[04:14] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:14] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  like saying one thing, to later do other, mostly commands
[04:14] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, I am already logged in as root
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, well then you are at the right level
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:14] <Iamgoodstuff> anyone?
[04:14] <brownie17> drummer87, you should unenable backports, then re-install firefox through synaptic, then reinstall backports
[04:15] <IceDragon> How do I open the file manager from the terminal?
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, is there a configure file there?
[04:15] <drummer87> brownie17, will try that
[04:15] <IceDragon> nautilus
[04:15] <WebLOCH> IceDragon, type Nautilus
[04:15] <Madpilot> IceDragon: type nautilus
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> yes
[04:15] <cesarin> WebLOCH, : well, what I need atm  is help on "FLASH PLAYER" for firefox :>
[04:15] <Iamgoodstuff> hello.... anyone.. please
[04:15] <WebLOCH> cesarin, yeah I need to install java again now
[04:15] <brownie17> drummer87, until firefox is in the others, you should try to steer clear of it
[04:15] <Madpilot> !tell cesarin about flash
[04:15] <IceDragon> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:15] <IceDragon> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:15] <IceDragon> ?
[04:15] <WebLOCH> cesarin, I havent quite figured that yet, the flashplayer i did get froze up when loading
[04:15] <drummer87> brownie17, in the others?? what do you mean
[04:16] <wasabi> Where can I find instructions for Hoary NDIS wrapper configuration?
[04:16] <theconartist> what is the default root pass...
[04:16] <IceDragon> What does that message mean nomasteryoda ?
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, did you change your hostname in the network-admin tool?
[04:16] <IceDragon> nope
[04:16] <theconartist> i cant freaking beleive ubuntu doesn't prompt for root password on install
[04:16] <IceDragon> didnt change a thing
[04:16] <Madpilot> IceDragon: you said you're in a Root Terminal? Use a regular Terminal, and sudo when needed
[04:16] <cesarin> WebLOCH, : mostly when I try following the instructions of wiki, it just makes firefox to crash every flash I touch
[04:16] <IceDragon> ok
[04:16] <Madpilot> !tell theconartist about root
[04:16] <brownie17> drummer87, the other repos
[04:16] <Iamgoodstuff> Ok can someone please help me with something
[04:16] <IceDragon> Well, I did a su root in the regular terminal
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> Iamgoodstuff, you have to ask the question
[04:16] <cesarin> Madpilot,  thanks man, but been here 3 fdays struggling to install FLASH PLAYER, following that CRAP instruction :P
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, use "sudo"
[04:16] <shaoqi> erm. i tried login to winxp, but i can't see the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, why?
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> Sorry you just all seemed to be ignoring me
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> Well anyways
[04:17] <WebLOCH> cesarin, did you install the GPL one or the Non-free one ?
[04:17] <brownie17> drummer87, i help heaps of people on here who get similar probelms with backports, and i once had the same problem with smeg. did it work?
[04:17] <durt> wasabi: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> I boot from the LiveCd
[04:17] <linda> hey guys, trying 5.10 and sudo passwd root isnt working :(
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> Version 5.04 form AMD64
[04:17] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  I followed the url to get them
[04:17] <Madpilot> cesarin: get the Flash/Linux stuff from Macromedia's website, that's what I wound up doing to get Flash into Opera - and it works for FF too
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> and everythign seems to be going fine
[04:17] <WebLOCH> cesarin,  you installed from binaries?
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> linda, did you type the password when you made your account?
[04:17] <gazzerh> use: sudo su
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> but it won;t boot to the Desktop Environment
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> or write it
[04:17] <brownie17> Iamgoodstuff, you need to tell your entire problem in one line
[04:17] <gazzerh> should work
[04:17] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, it said I'm not in the sudeors file
[04:18] <IceDragon> I just recreated my account because it was fux0red for some reason
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> ice, close that terminal
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> ah
[04:18] <linda> it didnt ask for root password
[04:18] <IceDragon> I did
[04:18] <wasabi> Does NDIS work with USB wifi adapter?
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> well that explains that
[04:18] <Madpilot> linda: there is no root by default in Ubuntu...
[04:18] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know if the x64 edition of ubuntu supports Intel EMT64 ?
[04:18] <Madpilot> !tell linda about root
[04:18] <IceDragon> What?
[04:18] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  tried the 64 bit version, it destroyed my firefox
[04:18] <durt> wasabi: yes, but i dont have one of those
[04:18] <WebLOCH> wasabi, it could be a problem with USB or with the wifi adapter
[04:18] <Iamgoodstuff> yes it supports emt64
[04:18] <brownie17> Iamgoodstuff, and ask. otherwise people will think you already have somebody helping you, i.e. intead of "it doesnt boot right" say "i need help with livecd, it doesn't boot right. cqan anyone help me?"
[04:18] <shaoqi> erm. i tried login to winxp, but i can't see the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, why? thanks..
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, your account was fouled?... how?
[04:18] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  haven tried the 32 bits, and Im gonna try atm, just need to finish installing my firefox patches
[04:18] <drummer87> brownie17, nope.. i think the package mozilla-firefox was a metapackage pointing to firefox in backports, but now is the only firefox package needed
[04:18] <WebLOCH> wasabi, i have found that my USB bluetooth devices dont work, even though I have evverything installed correctly
[04:19] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, I think I changed my root folder
[04:19] <IceDragon> then gave me a gnome create folder error or somthing
[04:19] <WebLOCH> cesarin,  fair enough then buddy, let me know how you fair, also, PLEASE consider using Opera
[04:19] <brownie17> drummer87, ok, sorry. i tried :(
[04:19] <WebLOCH> Iamgoodstuff, thanks for the info
[04:19] <IceDragon> root folder for the account
[04:19] <Iamgoodstuff> no problem webloch
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, that is getting overly complicated.... ubuntu made it simple for you...
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> made..
[04:19] <`psycho> how to add someone in the sudoers list in hoary but via console ? does the person only have to be in the admin group or ?
[04:19] <Iamgoodstuff> Anyways.. I'm having trouble getting the LiveCd to work on my AMD64 machine.. can someone please help?
[04:20] <IceDragon> :-\
[04:20] <Madpilot> `psycho: "man adduser"
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> I have not a clue on repairing that damage
[04:20] <drummer87> i could uninstall all firefox packages, but then i'll have to get rid of yelp, ubuntu-desktop and a few others for a moment.. perhaps that will work, albeit a hassle
[04:20] <IceDragon> Well that doesnt really help
[04:20] <IceDragon> heh
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> i know
[04:20] <shaoqi> erm. i tried login to winxp, but i can't see the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, why? thanks..
[04:20] <IceDragon> So what do you suggest I do?
[04:20] <Madpilot> `psycho: and please consider starting your nick with an actual letter, not a punctuation mark?
[04:20] <WebLOCH> drummer thats not true
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> if it was me, and the install was new i would reinstall
[04:20] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  might try, now to try flash
[04:20] <cesarin> brb
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> but you can reboot to the "safe" mode
[04:20] <IceDragon> :-\
[04:21] <theconartist> when i run ubuntu device database collection, it stalls on network test
[04:21] <IceDragon> Well, I removed the other accouhnt
[04:21] <WebLOCH> drummer87, if you use apt-get you can uninstall firefox specifically and not every listed dependancy
[04:21] <sproingie> psyco's name is actually the easiest one here to tab-complete
[04:21] <IceDragon> because I still have another user that I created
[04:21] <locomorto> shaoqi: becuase microsoft doesn't want you too
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, there is a way to set the sudoers list
[04:21] <IceDragon> that didnt get messed up
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> i think it is at
[04:21] <locomorto> shaoqi: ring them up and complain
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> !sudo
[04:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> or links to it
[04:21] <tycoon> !sudo
[04:21] <IceDragon> ok
[04:21] <shaoqi> locomorto, but if i want to, how can i see my hdd?
[04:21] <kairu0> what is the best WMV3 player for ubuntu?
[04:21] <`psycho> sproingie, why thx ;)
[04:21] <Iamgoodstuff> When I boot from the Ubuntu live CD (version 5.04 for AMD64) everything seems to be going ok and it seems to be loading fine but then it stops and never goes to the desktop environment.. can anyone help me?
[04:21] <locomorto> shaoqi: you can't
[04:21] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  btw, where I do download the 32 bit version of flash?
[04:22] <_n00blar_> kairu0, use xine and download w32codecs
[04:22] <cesarin> since I get nothing when I type the sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:22] <shaoqi> locomorto, it's not possible?
[04:22] <brownie17> how dod i give someone the rights to use synaptic/
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you can.... see NTFS from within Linux, but seeing Linux from windows is not simple
[04:22] <WebLOCH> cesarin, i use apt wherever possible, you can try sudo apt-get install gpl-flash
[04:22] <Gobbla> nomasteryoda: is it even possible?
[04:22] <cesarin> nomasteryoda,  there are 2 programs, let me check if I have them still
[04:22] <IceDragon> hmm k
[04:22] <shaoqi> yah. i can see ntfs from linux, but not from windows
[04:22] <Madpilot> cesarin: it's in Multiverse
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> Gobbla, yes
[04:22] <IceDragon> I'll be back soon
[04:23] <locomorto> shaoqi: no
[04:23] <cesarin> Madpilot, : thanks man! will search it
[04:23] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i want to see linux from windows, how can i do it?
[04:23] <theconartist> does anyone know the kernel parameter to disable apm?
[04:23] <Iamgoodstuff> When I boot from the Ubuntu live CD (version 5.04 for AMD64) everything seems to be going ok and it seems to be loading fine but then it stops and never goes to the desktop environment.. can anyone help me?
[04:23] <cesarin> WebLOCH, : cannot find gpl-flash
[04:23] <cesarin> brb
[04:23] <Auckland_Pig> hi, does ubuntu live cd have a disk partition utility, like knoppix has QT parted?
[04:23] <WebLOCH> cesarin, you running breezy or hoary ?
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, if the Linux partition was formatted as ext2 (3?) then ext2fs will work...slow, but it worked for me
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> it's out on the web
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> hello.. please help
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> anyone
[04:24] <tritium> brownie17, you add that user to the admin group
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> I don;t even care if you can help me, just say something
[04:24] <shaoqi> mine was formatted as ext3, can i makie it visible on windows still?
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> tell me to hit my computer with a hammer.. I don't care
[04:24] <Auckland_Pig> hi Iamgoodstuff ... how are you
[04:24] <WebLOCH> shaoqi,  not yet
[04:24] <theconartist> does anyone know the kernel parameter to disable apm?
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> thanks auckland pig
[04:24] <sproingie> Iamgoodstuff: okay, hit your computer with a hammer
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, well that is still ext2 but with journaling....
[04:24] <cesarin> WebLOCH, breezy
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> works for me
[04:24] <cesarin> 32bit 686
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, look on google
[04:24] <WebLOCH> cesarin, I assume you have the backports commented out
[04:24] <Auckland_Pig> dont worry Iamgoodstuff someone will help u... just be patient
[04:25] <Madpilot> Iamgoodstuff: percussive repairs can be entertaining, at least for the user ;)
[04:25] <sproingie> Iamgoodstuff: just ask, no need to ask to ask
[04:25] <Iamgoodstuff> well it didn;t get the LiveCd working but I do have a badass "dent" casemod now
[04:25] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  backports?
[04:25] <WebLOCH> cesarin, I use them, but on breezy i wouldnt recommend it
[04:25] <Auckland_Pig> hi, does ubuntu live cd have a disk partition utility, like knoppix has QT parted?
[04:25] <WebLOCH> cesarin, i dont know what to recommend
[04:25] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, ok let me try then
[04:25] <cesarin> WebLOCH, ok no problem
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[04:25] <Iamgoodstuff> well sorry guys but I have to leave now.. Hopefulyl someone can help me later as I would love to see what Ubuntu can do before I install it on my machine
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> its on the right site at least
[04:26] <Iamgoodstuff> leave
[04:26] <theconartist> what is contained in ubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <cesarin> madpilot theres a program named 277trans
[04:26] <cesarin> sadly cant see its contents atm since its for winbloze
[04:27] <cesarin> its a File brownser like, but handles linux partitions
[04:27] <drummer87> well.. i got firefox installed without error, but it won't start?!? how can i get debugging output from FF in a console?
[04:27] <Madpilot> cesarin: what's it for?
[04:27] <WebLOCH> hmm im beginning to wonder if i should find a way to convert my music collection to ogg
[04:27] <Phr0stByte> Anyone here have a GrandStream VoIP adapter hooked up?
[04:27] <Madpilot> cesarin: ah, gotcha.
[04:27] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  ok, found the "nonfree flashplayer" on multieverse
[04:27] <cesarin> it seems to work
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> WebLOCH, if you have a player that will play them, do it...
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> i mean hardware player like Neuros
[04:29] <theconartist> does anyone know the kernel parameter to disable apm?
[04:29] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, what do i type to seach on google to get the info i need? thanks
[04:29] <WebLOCH> cesarin, yeah thats the one i installed before
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi,  http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> that is the site
[04:29] <WebLOCH> cesarin, im not sure how thourough its compatibility is
[04:29] <shaoqi> okay. let me check it out thanks
[04:30] <WebLOCH> nomasteryoda, yeah, but im worried about quality loss
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> well thye had the link there before
[04:30] <WebLOCH> nomasteryoda, and its going to take ages
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> crud.... just sec
[04:30] <Phr0stByte> Anyone here have a GrandStream VoIP adapter hooked up?
[04:30] <hmrocha> helloo
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> thats it shaoqi
[04:31] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  I used another one
[04:31] <hmrocha> how can i burn a file to a cd without creating an image first?
[04:31] <cafuego_> How would you use one to call the electricity company faults line when the power goes out? ;-)
[04:31] <cesarin> sadly I erased it
[04:31] <hmrocha> burning on the fly with nautilus
[04:31] <cesarin> but it seemed to work.
[04:31] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda: No, there's a much better one.
[04:31] <shaoqi> nomsteryoda, ok. let me read and see how i can go about to do it
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, yea there is
[04:31] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda: ext2fsd.sf.net, allows you to mount it like a normal disk.
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> right
[04:32] <cafuego_> and read/write via the windows explorer
[04:32] <cafuego_> ext3 as well
[04:32] <WebLOCH> really?
[04:32] <cafuego_> Yep.
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, thanks
[04:32] <WebLOCH> how stable is it ?
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> i forgot about that project
[04:32] <WebLOCH> ahh i was at this site the other day, i couldnt find ext3
[04:32] <sproingie> i didn't realize it was still active
[04:32] <cafuego_> WebLOCH: I've not had problems with it, just keep in mind that after rbooting, any file to copied TO ext2/ext3 is owned by root:root
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> new release in July 2005 too
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> super..!! shaoqi glad you asked
[04:33] <WebLOCH> cafuego, yeah i guessed lol
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, do use that one like cafuego suggested
[04:33] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, but thanks alot for your help.
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> np
[04:33] <sproingie> neat.  tho for my box i'd need a xfs driver
[04:33] <shaoqi> use ex2fs?
[04:33] <cafuego_> And oh, it can't mount ext2/ext3 if the filesystem is NOT marked clean.
[04:33] <cesarin> damn, this TV time program KICKS ASS
[04:34] <cesarin> I can see porn from my cable system wich was usually blocked :P
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, ext2fsd.sf.net
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[04:34] <durt> whoa there whats this about porn?
[04:35] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, thanks
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> cesarin, certainly you mean Pr0n
[04:35] <shaoqi> cafuego_, thanks too
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, thanks to you I remember that project from Freshmeat long ago
[04:35] <WebLOCH> hmmm
[04:35] <WebLOCH> whats the smeg package name?
[04:35] <Phr0stByte> Anyone here have a GrandStream VoIP adapter hooked up?
[04:36] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i didn't do anything though..
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> Phr0stByte, did you ask about that on some voip channel?
[04:36] <cesarin> nomasteryoda,  but.. of courrrseee
[04:36] <theconartist> wtf
[04:36] <cafuego_> !smeg
[04:36] <ubotu> smeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:36] <theconartist> how do i configure my NIC
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, yes you did... you prompted the discussion...
[04:36] <theconartist> ubutnu is t3h borked
[04:36] <cesarin> btw, anyone can remind me what is the program for linux that is like TRILLIAN?
[04:36] <WebLOCH> yeah ive checked the backports
[04:36] <WebLOCH> its not available
[04:36] <WebLOCH> cesarin,  GAIM
[04:36] <Madpilot> !smeg
[04:36] <ubotu> well, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:36] <cafuego_> Well, try THAT url then
[04:36] <Phr0stByte> nomasteryoda: What voip channel - be glad to ask there
[04:36] <WebLOCH> dirty
[04:36] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, haha. i got more questions too =x haha
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:36] <ol> i sanyone here running ubuntu on a laptop
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[04:37] <cafuego_> ol: I am.
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> Phr0stByte, lets see
[04:37] <ol> could you explain the knid of things you had to do to get it running?
[04:37] <Madpilot> ol: lots of people are, maybe not here now though
[04:37] <cafuego_> Well, not right now, but it is installed and it does run, when it;'s on.
[04:37] <ol> mine alwayas freezes as it tries to load hotplug.. iv tried tons of things
[04:37] <cafuego_> ol: I had to install it from the cd.
[04:37] <ol> thats what im doing, how else would you?
[04:37] <cafuego_> ol: It's not a HP nx9005 is it?
[04:37] <ol> no
[04:37] <ol> sager
[04:37] <cafuego_> No idea, then.
[04:38] <ol> it obviously doesnt like some of my hardware but disabling apic and all that doesnt help
[04:38] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  that is not GAIM
[04:38] <cesarin> GAIM = MSN copy
[04:38] <cesarin> and gaim = not skinneable
[04:38] <cafuego_> Gaim does a lot more then MSN
[04:38] <theconartist> gam is not an msn copy...
[04:38] <theconartist> gaim*
[04:38] <durt> wtf do you need skins?
[04:38] <WebLOCH> cesarin, GAIM is a multiprotocol client and yes it is skinnable, just not particularly good
[04:38] <cafuego_> including, but not limited to running on Windows ;-)
[04:39] <theconartist> and it is skinnable
[04:39] <WebLOCH> haha
[04:39] <WebLOCH> pwnzD!
[04:39] <cafuego_> tritium: Maybe it would work better if you whispered sweet nothings to it...
[04:40] <durt> do flash and java work with dillo?
[04:40] <tritium> maybe it would work better if I threw it out the window...
[04:40] <theconartist> ubuntu is being a poo poo head
[04:40] <cesarin> I remmeber someone said about "K" sometihg
[04:40] <theconartist> somebody help me
[04:40] <cesarin> like KALAKA
[04:40] <cesarin> wich was almost identic to trillian and preety stable
[04:40] <cesarin> but I Forgot the real name x_X
[04:40] <WebLOCH> cafuego, I dont suppose you know which backport SMEG was in, I'd like to re-add it haha
[04:40] <tritium> cafuego, :)
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> how can i change the contents of a directory that are only available for viewing with root, to be viewable to another unser
[04:40] <theconartist> how the hell do i do a post install configuration of my NIC!?!?!?!??!?!
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> user*
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> Phr0stByte, you look here?
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> anything to do with asterisk
[04:40] <tritium> c0rrupt_, do you see the topic, and what it says about backports?
[04:40] <cafuego_> WebLOCH: The smeg factoid has a url. Go there. Enjoy.
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> ,?
[04:41] <theconartist> you cant be serious that nobody here knows
[04:41] <cafuego_> c0rrupt_: What disk? ntfs? vfat?
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> ntfs
[04:41] <cesarin> theconartist, excuse me man, but the default skin of gaim is IDENTIC to MSN's or AIM's default crap, and its horrible, too simplistic, and you cant manage your contacts at all
[04:41] <tritium> theconartist, did you try System->Administration->Networking for starters?
[04:41] <cafuego_> theconartist: run etherconf
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> im just saying in general though
[04:41] <shaoqi> how come i tried to run as different user (root), i key in my password and it says wrong password?
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> like whats the chmod command
[04:41] <theconartist> tritium, of course
[04:41] <WebLOCH> cafuego, I meant Id like to have that backport added haha
[04:41] <cafuego_> cesarin: Gaim is a chat client, not a contact manager <heh>
[04:41] <Phr0stByte> nomasteryoda: yeah - just nobody home in those channels
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, there is no root on ubuntu
[04:41] <tritium> theconartist, then why are you asking how to configure?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> Phr0stByte, oh well
[04:42] <cesarin> ............
[04:42] <cesarin> cafuego_, : I mean like Trillian
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> gaim is good
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> im using ti right now
[04:42] <cesarin> skinneable, can put things in order easily. etc.. :P
[04:42] <theconartist> tritium, because what you just mentioned does not do it
[04:42] <cesarin> c0rrupt_,  so I am  :P
[04:42] <WebLOCH> !smeg
[04:42] <ubotu> hmm... smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:42] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, then is not possible to copy files into the hdd?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, the one and only user is the one you installed
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you mean to install?
[04:43] <cesarin> Btw, anyone else got these phyton update warnings that appareed a few minutes ago?
[04:43] <tritium> theconartist, it does, but what are you trying to do?
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, user files go in your /home/shaqoi folders
[04:43] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, not really install. i just want to move a file onto another hdd. but i was denied
[04:43] <theconartist> tritium, trying to setup my nic...
[04:43] <c0rrupt_> cafuego, whats the chmod commands to change permissions viewable to all users
[04:43] <tritium> be more specific, theconartist
[04:43] <theconartist> well, i cant use it right now
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, if you mean to your windows drive, then no
[04:43] <theconartist> i want to use it
[04:43] <tritium> and explain what the gui config tool is not doing
[04:43] <NeoFax> Anyone know how to fix "No profile for user 'me' found" for KDM?
[04:43] <theconartist> tritium, not recognizing it
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, no writing back to NTFS.. not safe
[04:43] <pgavin> why is it necessary to get a password for the freenx packages on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/?
[04:44] <tritium> theconartist, which nic do you have, and is the proper module loaded?
[04:44] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, ok. if i just want to move a file to my ubuntu drive?
[04:44] <NeoFax> I have read thru every Xsession file and none give this error.
[04:44] <Serenity-> is ubuntu a good starter distro, for a person new to linux ?
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you can copy but not move from the NTFS
[04:44] <theconartist> tritium, it's an intel, and yes
[04:44] <NeoFax> I can start KDE via the command line, but no window manager will start from KDM.
[04:44] <cesarin> Anyone knows if its VIABLE to update the phyton to  2.4.1-2.4.2.RC1-1 ?
[04:44] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i see. then how can i copy?
[04:45] <Earthen> Serenity-, yes it is I'm a noobie my self ony about a month now
[04:45] <tritium> theconartist, does ifconfig list it?
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, but you have to set the read permissions for your standard user account.
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> you can do it via sudo
[04:45] <Serenity-> i've used linux in the past, but it was Mandrake =/
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, copy that is
[04:45] <TokenBad> how you unzip or uncompress a bz2 file?
[04:45] <theconartist> tritium, it does now
[04:45] <theconartist> i fixed it
[04:45] <WebLOCH> will a deb install to a specific location or must i specify myself?
[04:45] <NeoFax> TokenBad: tar -xjvf file.bz2
[04:45] <cesarin> Anyone knows if its VIABLE to update the phyton to  2.4.1-2.4.2.RC1-1 ?
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, sudo cp /mnt/hdd/filename /home/username/
[04:46] <tritium> theconartist, what did you do?
[04:46] <Earthen> Serenity-, yeah I tried red hat ,FC, mandrake, suse but I alway got fustrated and gave up untill i found ubuntu
[04:46] <shaoqi> ok, how to set the permission anyway?
[04:46] <cesarin> just want to be sure, because I think these updates appeared when I enabled "MULTIVERSE"
[04:46] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, ok, how to set the permission anyway?
[04:46] <theconartist> tritium, system>configuration>networking
[04:46] <theconartist> and activated eth0
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, looking at my own right now
[04:46] <Serenity-> the machine im going to be installing it to isnt the best, and i know that linux has problems with ATI graphics cards
[04:46] <Serenity-> i hope that it atleast recognizes it lol
[04:46] <hmrocha> i'm using gnome baker
[04:47] <tritium> theconartist, hmm, sounds familiar ;)
[04:47] <cesarin> serenity: using 64 bit mode is REALLY A PAIN in the ass for ATI :P
[04:47] <Madpilot> Serenity-: which ATI card?
[04:47] <theconartist> tritium, no it doesnt
[04:47] <Earthen> Serenity-,  well I have a ATI card
[04:47] <Serenity-> ati radeon 9200se
[04:47] <NeoFax> Anyone can help with KDM?
[04:47] <hmrocha> i want to burn an iso without creating an image first
[04:47] <cesarin> I had to update like 2-3 times of breezy badger to finally get something that detects it :>
[04:47] <hmrocha> i don't have enough disk space, is that possible?
[04:47] <theconartist> tritium, it is a different application from what you suggested
[04:47] <cesarin> breezy 32 bit detected my 9800 pro in an instant :>
[04:47] <Earthen> Serenity-, that should work no problem
[04:47] <cafuego_> Serenity-: a 9200se is supported by the open radeon driver, you should be fine.
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, look at your /etc/fstab file
[04:47] <Madpilot> Serenity-: a 9200SE should be fine
[04:47] <sjj> Are there 'backports' for breezy ? It appears that breezy still only has mysql-4.1 which is pretty damn old.
[04:47] <cafuego_> Serenity-: My wife's mac mini has one and it runs just dandy.
[04:47] <theconartist> tritium, omfg lol sry
[04:47] <Serenity-> thanks for the help :) im downloading it now
[04:48] <Madpilot> Serenity-: I've got a 9600XT, it works great
[04:48] <theconartist> tritium, i didnt read the first time
[04:48] <theconartist> i thought you said somethign else
[04:48] <tritium> no worries
[04:48] <Serenity-> yeah, the guys are work are giving me a hard time saying linux isnt for girls lol
[04:48] <bigfoot1> i need to drag and drop a file into /usr/share/opera/styles, but i have no access. how do i do it the un-nerdy way?
[04:48] <Serenity-> are = at
[04:48] <Earthen> Serenity-, I just installed my 9700pro tonight all went fine no probs at all
[04:48] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, should have line similar to
[04:48] <nomasteryoda> /dev/hda4  /windows  vfat  defaults   0  0
[04:48] <Serenity-> awesome, yeah im testing it out on this computer, before I try to install it to my main pc
[04:49] <Serenity-> i play some games, so im going to see if i can get them running first
[04:49] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: use sudo before a mv command.
[04:49] <Serenity-> i don't wanna have to do a dual boot
[04:49] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i don't have that line
[04:49] <Phr0stByte> bigfoot1: "sudo nautilus"
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, ok
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you add it easily....
[04:49] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: those directories are owned by root
[04:49] <bigfoot1> maddler, how do i do it without terminal? oh, i guess Phr0stByte answered my questions.
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> scroll down to bottom
[04:49] <Serenity-> this channel is really busy lol
[04:49] <Earthen> Serenity-, there's a good walk through in the ubuntu forms about installing ati drivers
[04:50] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[04:50] <bonee> my GDM don't work anymore
[04:50] <Earthen> ati
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, make the folder too
[04:50] <bonee> how can i fix it
[04:50] <Madpilot> Serenity-: this is pretty standard traffic here... ;)
[04:50] <Madpilot> !tell Serenity- about ati
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, the mount point.... like /mnt/windows or /windows.... your preference
[04:50] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, make the folder?
[04:50] <Serenity-> thanks Madpilot :)
[04:50] <vbgunz> anyone know how to run the desktop "clean up by name"?
[04:50] <vbgunz> automatically?
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, after adding that line, saving and closing the file
[04:50] <pgavin> umm, what do I have to do to get a password for http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ to get the FreeNX packages?
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, sudo mkdir /windows
[04:51] <cesarin> brb
[04:51] <vbgunz> some of my mount icons are almost always overlapping... its like madness with a method...
[04:51] <TokenBad> is cdemu able to get from apt-get?
[04:51] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, i have been fighting getting ATI working on my other laptop
[04:51] <nomasteryoda> batting at windmills i have
[04:51] <Serenity-> only problem im going to have is that i play World of Warcraft and i heard getting games to run in linux is a pain
[04:52] <Serenity-> and then also, my online school requires Outlook Express for my classes
[04:52] <cafuego_> Serenity-: With a small purchase of 'Cedega' you should be fine.
[04:52] <Earthen> have anyone installed 3ddesktop
[04:52] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, after making the folder, add what line you say?
[04:52] <Serenity-> purchase :(
[04:52] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, the line i mentioned
[04:52] <Serenity-> maybe i'll do the dual boot :)
[04:52] <shaoqi> /dev/hda4  /windows  vfat  defaults   0  0
[04:52] <Serenity-> or install a 2nd HD
[04:52] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, gedit /etc/fstab
[04:52] <shaoqi> is this the one?
[04:53] <bur[n] er> can anyone help me with some dpkg/apt problems when trying to go to breezy from debian unstable??
[04:53] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Do they require OE for any particular reason? There are other pop3/imap clients in Linux that are much nicer and more secure.
[04:53] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, then add the partition your windows is on....
[04:53] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, like /dev/hdd1 /windows vfat defaults   0  0
[04:53] <Serenity-> well on the edu site you have to click the links and it opens OE and adds the usergroups that way
[04:53] <bur[n] er> !pastebin
[04:53] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:53] <TokenBad> or anyone know how to mount an iso file in ubuntu?
[04:53] <Serenity-> so i'm not sure if i can set them up manually
[04:53] <bur[n] er> TokenBad: mount -t loop blah.iso
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, that is baddddd
[04:54] <bur[n] er> TokenBad: along those lines ;)  man mount
[04:54] <TokenBad> sorry ..what about bin or cue files
[04:54] <Serenity-> i'll just do the dual boot
[04:54] <Serenity-> leave like 10 gigs for windows
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, as in OE is the largest know spam attractor on the planet
[04:54] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Unless they do (very insecure) javascript malarkey, I expect it could be done manually.
[04:54] <Serenity-> rest for ubuntu
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> yea
[04:54] <bur[n] er> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2477  <--anyone know how to fix this dpkg error?
[04:54] <Serenity-> 11% done on the download lol
[04:55] <cafuego_> that remionds me i need colony4 for this imac
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> !tell shaoqi about windows
[04:55] <theconartist> grrr
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:55] <theconartist> apmd needs to die
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> !tell Serenity- about windows
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, there are some options...
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, I agree
[04:56] <Serenity-> thanks :)
[04:56] <anethema> hey uhh, i upgraded my firefox with apt and it wont install themes now
[04:56] <anethema> when i click to install a new theme nothing happens :(
[04:56] <knuckles> how can i fix this problem i just tryed to update my systme and i got an error like this
[04:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is the name of the newish pdf viewer in gnome?
[04:56] <knuckles> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> BROKEN_LADDER, evince?
[04:56] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, where can i get VMware to run windows on linux?
[04:57] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: evince
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, www.vmware.com
[04:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> thankyou
[04:57] <theconartist> wtf
[04:57] <theconartist> for some reason apm=off isn't working
[04:57] <knuckles> what does that mean?
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, you need to turn off acpi too right?
[04:57] <knuckles> im new to the ubuntu scene
[04:57] <knuckles> :)
[04:57] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, did that too
[04:58] <theconartist> still being bad :(
[04:58] <durt> evince is slower than a monkey, use gv
[04:58] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, there's so many to choose. which one? VMware workstation?
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, yea, i noticed that earlier when trying to help someone with a laptop that would not boot SuSE or Ubuntu properly
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, yes
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> workstation 5 is nice
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> i have that
[04:58] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, thats not my problem
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:59] <theconartist> my problem is that my thinkpad r31's APM bios doesn't play nice with others
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, breezy?
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> ah
[04:59] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, anything but windows
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[04:59] <theconartist> no jokes
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> i agree there
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> totally
[04:59] <theconartist> and ever 1 minute my mouse darts and thinks randomly click/move
[04:59] <theconartist> my desktop gets defaced
[04:59] <theconartist> a new folder is created
[04:59] <theconartist> switches desktops
[04:59] <theconartist> all that good stuff
[05:00] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, I know what you are talking about
[05:00] <nalioth> well now
[05:00] <durt> you intolerant osists
[05:01] <Madpilot> "OSists"?
[05:01] <Wizzo> Can someone help me with my laptop touchpad?
[05:01] <cesarin> just cheked Gaim's proyect site
[05:01] <Wizzo> It randomly stops working.
[05:01] <cesarin> it does NOT support skins nor themes
[05:01] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, is it an Alps or synaptic?
[05:01] <cesarin> just emoticons themes
[05:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know this this terminology might mean if i'm configuring a dial tone?
[05:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> 350@-19,440@-19;10(*/0/1+2)
[05:01] <Wizzo> synaptic I think.
[05:01] <Earthen> has anyone managed to get 3ddesktop working
[05:02] <Wizzo> It only happens in Ubuntu.
[05:02] <durt> osist = person who doesnt like windows
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, you can install the qsynaptics package from apt-get repositories
[05:02] <carl> Why is it my browser always close?
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> !tell Wizzo about repos
[05:02] <Wizzo> And that should fix it?
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, what does it do?
[05:02] <carl> Why is it my browser always close??
[05:02] <cesarin> carl: check if your browser closes under certain circunstances
[05:02] <Wizzo> It just... stops.
[05:03] <Wizzo> Suddenly.
[05:03] <cesarin> like when navigating a site with java, or navigating a site with flash
[05:03] <Wizzo> Even the little thing in the middle of the keyboard.
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, does external mouse work?
[05:03] <Wizzo> Randomly.
[05:03] <carl> how?
[05:03] <Wizzo> I put in a usb one for now.
[05:03] <Wizzo> It works.
[05:03] <cesarin> carl: just visit a site like www.java.com
[05:03] <cesarin> java.com is CLEAN, but contains 1 java applet
[05:03] <cesarin> so if itsjava, it will crash there
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, Hoary or Breezy ?
[05:03] <cesarin> then go to www.eluniversal.com.mx
[05:03] <Wizzo> I'm using the preview ubuntu at the moment.
[05:03] <carl> when im using friendster.com
[05:03] <carl> and myspace.com
[05:03] <cesarin> if it crashes there, its then FLASH player
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:03] <Wizzo> Breezy.
[05:03] <carl> my browser crashes
[05:04] <Wizzo> But it happens in all of them.
[05:04] <cesarin> carl: try the sites I told you
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, well that version is still development
[05:04] <Wizzo> It's just in breezy it seems to do it at startup.
[05:04] <cesarin> since sometimes are too mixed with plugins
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, what about hoary live?
[05:04] <carl> k w8
[05:04] <carl> it didnt crash
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, ok... mine works fine in breezy installed
[05:04] <Wizzo> Um... I'm not sure about the livecds.
[05:04] <TokenBad> can someone tell me what this means?: # you need the source of your current running kernel.
[05:04] <TokenBad> /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build/include needs to point at it.
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, my Dell 4150 has synaptics
[05:04] <Wizzo> But I think it's all the same.
[05:05] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, which im do you guys use on ubuntu usually?
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> gaim
[05:05] <Wizzo> It just happens at random.
[05:05] <carl> but when i logged on to friendster
[05:05] <carl> it crasher
[05:05] <carl> it crashes
[05:05] <Wizzo> I have a Dell Latitude C600
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, you sure it
[05:05] <nomasteryoda>  is not alps?
[05:05] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, other than gaim?
[05:05] <nalioth> TokenBad: you need your kernel sources
[05:05] <Wizzo> Well not really.
[05:05] <Wizzo> How can I check?
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, cause this on I'm on is a D505 dell latitude.... has Alps
[05:05] <TokenBad> and ubuntu will not have that right?
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, just sec
[05:06] <Wizzo> In distros like Gentoo and such I just use the default settings.
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, gaim is the best by far
[05:06] <Wizzo> Just with the device path changed.
[05:06] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, do you know what might be poking around with APM stuff?
[05:06] <theconartist> i disabled all the panel stuff
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, thinking about that
[05:06] <theconartist> usually just getting rid of the battery manager does it
[05:06] <Flying-Penguin> guys
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, i saw that before on someone's system
[05:06] <Flying-Penguin> when my computer started 3 apps crashed (one being workstation switcher)
[05:06] <TokenBad> nalioth, and ubuntu will not have that on my drive right?
[05:06] <pH[gnoppix] > Could someone help me out? I have a simple question about my monitor (CRT)-- I just started up Gnoppix on a Windows computer and for some reason has become a BIG eyestrain.
[05:06] <nalioth> TokenBad: use synaptic to install
[05:07] <Flying-Penguin> I disided to not restart
[05:07] <TokenBad> cdemu wasn't in that
[05:07] <Flying-Penguin> and now they don't start with our computers
[05:07] <Wizzo> I just hope I can get this working because Ubuntu seems to be a godsend distro.
[05:07] <Wizzo> Compiling takes sooo long. :/
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, it is nice
[05:07] <Wizzo> Yeah.
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, i am using Breezy on this dell d505 too
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> installed
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> works fine
[05:08] <Wizzo> Ok..
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> only don't have the vert/horz scroll on the alps touchpad... but works very good
[05:08] <pH[gnoppix] > :/
[05:08] <Flying-Penguin> anyone
[05:08] <Wizzo> Um.. so I should put these repositories in.
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> better than suse or windows
[05:08] <Flying-Penguin> ?
[05:08] <Wizzo> And install qsynaptics?
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> and they are on other partitions
[05:08] <windex> hey, im on the phone with someone having issues with screen resolution
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, i would
[05:08] <windex> is there a wiki page for fixing that?
[05:08] <Wizzo> Ok.
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, makes it easier
[05:08] <Madpilot> !+fixres
[05:08] <ubotu> fixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> to configure
[05:08] <Wizzo> Thanks. I'll get back to you if it works... or not..
[05:09] <Madpilot> windex: see ubotu above ^^^
[05:09] <durt> gsynaptics it you have gtk
[05:09] <TokenBad> nalioth, cdemu wasn't in synaptic
[05:09] <windex> Madpilot, thanks
[05:09] <Flying-Penguin> ANYONE?
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, you can also install 855resolution to get nice 1400x1050
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, why yell?
[05:09] <Wizzo> Oh.
[05:09] <Wizzo> Cool thanks.
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> busy channel
[05:09] <Wizzo> I thought I had it already. :S
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, look for Linux Laptops
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> on google
[05:10] <Wizzo> What for?
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> the dell laptops ...
[05:10] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: because I cant switch workstations/minimise to desktop/open already open apps (not counting alt+tab)
[05:10] <nalioth> TokenBad: i didnt send you after cdemu, i sent you for the kernel sources for your machine
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> that model
[05:10] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: and you guys aren't helping, therefor I yell
[05:10] <Madpilot> Wizzo: also search the Ubuntu wiki, there's a large laptop testing project ongoing and someone might just have the same machine as you...
[05:10] <Wizzo> Ok cool.
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, we are kinda busy atm
[05:10] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> but we'll try
[05:10] <tritium> Wizzo, which laptop?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> thanks Madpilot
[05:11] <durt> flying-penguin: therefore use google
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> forgot about that d600
[05:11] <Wizzo> Dell LAtitude C600
[05:11] <Flying-Penguin> durt: ok, what should I search for!?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> c yea
[05:11] <tritium> Wizzo, what's the problem?
[05:11] <TokenBad> nalioth, ohhhhh
[05:11] <Flying-Penguin> durt: google is worthless if you don't know what to search for
[05:11] <Wizzo> Inbuilt mouse stops working at random times.
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> tritium, slashes dell again
[05:11] <Wizzo> But only on Ubuntu.
[05:12] <Flying-Penguin> durt: not to menction there are plenty of smart people right here where I could get real time support, therefor google is worthless
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> tritium, he's using Live disk breezy
[05:12] <tritium> nomasteryoda, thanks for the info.  What do you mean "slashes"?
[05:12] <TokenBad> nalioth, this the one I need: Linux kernel source for version 2.4.27 with Debian patches
[05:12] <theconartist> grr
[05:12] <Wizzo> Live disk?
[05:12] <Wizzo> It's installed.
[05:12] <theconartist> i dont think i have the kernel parameter right
[05:13] <tritium> Wizzo, I have a Dell C800, and might be able to help.
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> tritium, thought you said that's the problem... to Wizzo ... sorry
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, ok
[05:13] <Wizzo> If you can help that'd be great.
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, have you updated?
[05:13] <nalioth> TokenBad: type in a terminal "uname -a" and find the source for the kernel you are running and get it
[05:13] <Wizzo> Updating now.
[05:13] <Wizzo> 200 megs though...
[05:13] <Wizzo> Be a bit.
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> i do that every other day almost
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> 2 laptops
[05:14] <IcemanV9> anyone have mute button working on hp laptop?? i'm using hoary right now.
[05:14] <Wizzo> An hour to go.
[05:14] <Versed`> anyone know how to install java?
[05:14] <tritium> Wizzo, your mouse intermittently fails?
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> wow
[05:14] <tritium> !tell Versed about java
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> tritium, yes
[05:14] <knuckles> can someone please send me a copy of a /usr/lib/X11/fonts file.. i kinda erased mine :-)
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> that is his issue
[05:14] <Wizzo> Intermittently?
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> like randomly
[05:14] <tritium> Wizzo, intermitten failures could be a hardware problem
[05:14] <TokenBad> nalioth, Linux 2.6.10-5-386  is what it says..but don't see the source for 2.6.10 listed
[05:15] <durt> versed': add: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted, and deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <Wizzo> I don't see how though.
[05:15] <Wizzo> It only ever happens on Ubuntu.
[05:15] <kritty> Hey all.... I'm getting an error about xfonts not being able to update.... any ideas?
[05:15] <tritium> TokenBad, it's called linux-source-2.6.10
[05:15] <tritium> What do you need it for?
[05:15] <TokenBad> nalioth, found it..thats why
[05:15] <TokenBad> I did search for kernel first
[05:15] <xfxf___> yo, i'm having problems with a system i just upgraded hoary -> breezy, dpkg is totally screwing up with " x-common conflicts with xfree86-common", any ideas?
[05:15] <TokenBad> and it didn't find it
[05:15] <locomorto> durt: is this for Java/libdvdcss2?
[05:15] <Wizzo> I've tried every distro on this thing you can think so and some Windows versions.
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, if it works with say Mepis live disk or hoary and doesn't fail, then it's not hardware
[05:15] <Wizzo> They always work fine.
[05:15] <Flying-Penguin> durt: ohh fun, I tryed google and I didn't get my answer, isn't that fun, all the sudden I feal happy I did...
[05:15] <locomorto> xfxf___: do a clean install
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, kernel modules i'd bet...
[05:16] <Wizzo> I don't think it happens on the live disk..
[05:16] <tritium> Wizzo, then please explain better what happens specifically i ubuntu
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, did you go to support.dell.com and look up what hardware it shipped with?
[05:16] <kritty> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[05:16] <Wizzo> I don't know how to explain it.
[05:16] <Wizzo> I'll just be using it and it'll just stop.
[05:16] <Wizzo> Sometime after a minute.
[05:16] <Wizzo> Sometimes after hours.
[05:16] <kritty> what does it mean?
[05:16] <tritium> That is what we'd call intermittent, Wizzo
[05:16] <nalioth> kritty: you may force your machine at the risk of breaking it, or wait for an update
[05:17] <Wizzo> I'll check the specs of the laptop.
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> kritty, i had that happen too
[05:17] <kritty> thanks nalioth
[05:17] <kritty> I'll wait
[05:17] <durt> locomorto: its for the stuff in hoary extras and backports, including jre and jdk
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> i'm waiting too
[05:17] <knuckles> i got the same problem
[05:17] <tritium> just be patient, breezy users
[05:17] <knuckles> just diselect the xcommon
[05:17] <kritty> nomasteryoda
[05:17] <knuckles> when updating
[05:17] <codomaniac> breezy is safe to switch now :) ?
[05:17] <kritty> thanks
[05:17] <xfxf___> locomorto: surely there's a different answer?  upgradability is a major reason i use ubuntu/debian, instead of something like fedora
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> ah.... the breezy winds of change
[05:17] <Flying-Penguin> well... some programs of mine crashed on startup and I chose not to restart them and now they don't start with my computer
[05:17] <kritty> tritium ksmurf says hello
[05:17] <locomorto> durt: there not there anymore (Java/libdvdcss2)
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, er, i like it
[05:18] <tritium> kritty, greetings to ksmurf.  Might you be his wife?
[05:18] <codomaniac> nomasteryoda, it is stable :) ?
[05:18] <locomorto> xfxf___:you can upgrade fedora easily enough
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, seems very much so to me....
[05:18] <kritty> yes.... pity me?
[05:18] <locomorto> xfxf___: and for now, thats the problem
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> IMHO
[05:18] <durt> locomorto: really? when'd that happen?
[05:18] <IcemanV9> codomaniac: not really .. you could wait 'til next month like i do
[05:18] <locomorto> xfxf___: we moved to a modalised x.org
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, but updates break things...
[05:18] <tritium> kritty, heh
[05:18] <locomorto> durt: not sure, but it happend
[05:18] <Wizzo> I'll check the kernel.
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, like your customized xorg file
[05:18] <Wizzo> You compile it just like any other distro right?
[05:18] <kritty> bbl
[05:19] <xfxf___> locomorto: yeah, but i upgraded hoary->breezy on the machine i'm on right now and it worked fine
[05:19] <Versed`> durt, get nothing
[05:19] <xfxf___> i'm just having problems galore on another machine
[05:19] <xfxf___> surely there's a solution?
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, or wireless ndiswrapper build
[05:19] <Flying-Penguin> well... some programs of mine crashed on startup and I chose not to restart them and now they don't start with my computer
[05:19] <codomaniac> hmm...
[05:19] <locomorto> xfxf___: the dependices haven't been sorted out yet
[05:19] <TokenBad> nalioth, if I do that to install the sources..do I still need to point to them
[05:19] <locomorto> xfxf___: And you are probably missing a few things here and there
[05:19] <TokenBad> like that line said?
[05:19] <cesarin> well anyway later guys, thanks a lot for the help!!!
[05:19] <locomorto> xfxf___: For now, if you want breezy, a clean install is the best way to get it
[05:20] <xfxf___> locomorto: no, apt-get -u dist-upgrade claims there's nothing else to install
[05:20] <xfxf___> ok, sigh, fair enough
[05:20] <durt> versed`: here then: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php
[05:20] <locomorto> xfxf___: In future, make sure to make a home partition
[05:20] <nalioth> TokenBad: no you do not
[05:20] <locomorto> xfxf___: it makes upgrading so much easier
[05:20] <cafuego_> tritium: That's going to make them completely useless as code talkers during the US-EU wars of 2011
[05:20] <nalioth> TokenBad: the line assumes you have them in a nonstandard place
[05:20] <Flying-Penguin> well... some programs of mine crashed on startup and I chose not to restart them and now they don't start with my computer
[05:20] <xfxf___> i already do that.  this just defeats a major reason i've stuck with debian-based distros
[05:21] <xfxf___> but, fair enough, thanks.
[05:21] <tritium> cafuego, let's hope it never comes to that
[05:21] <IcemanV9> but, tritium, it is not live, isn't it?
[05:21] <cafuego_> tritium: Hmmm, possibly.
[05:21] <TokenBad> well just tried to run make like it said
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, like which programs?
[05:21] <tritium> IcemanV9, the game?  Yes, it is.
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> helps to know
[05:21] <TokenBad> nalioth, well just tried to run make like it said and it gave me an error
[05:21] <durt> the us will RAPE europe
[05:22] <tritium> durt, stop
[05:22] <IcemanV9> tritium: wicked
[05:22] <nalioth> TokenBad: you also need kernel headers
[05:22] <locomorto> you guys are pitiful, AFL is the best sport out there ;)
[05:22] <locomorto> Our grand final is today as well
[05:22] <cafuego_> locomorto: bloody wog
[05:22] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: I didn't memorize them, but they are all on my "stat bar" I don't see my workstation switcher, or my task bar (where all open programs are), and the buttons that lets me minimize to desktop
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> guys, #ubuntu-offtopic is the channel for that stuff
[05:23] <locomorto> cafuego_: Its an AUSTRALIAN sport ;)
[05:23] <tritium> locomorto, what's AFL?
[05:23] <nalioth> locomorto: in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:23] <cafuego_> locomorto: flying birds or swimming birds?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, you can just add them again
[05:23] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: ok... what are they called
[05:23] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: and I don't know where they where befor
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, you right-click the taskbar at the top (usually)
[05:23] <theconartist> grr wtf
[05:23] <theconartist> i cant figure this out
[05:24] <cafuego_> tritium: it's a sport where men in very tight shorts bash eachother up in public and on occasion kick an egg shaped ball.
[05:24] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: my taskbar is at the bottom, but anywho
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, ok
[05:24] <tritium> cafuego, heh, not a fan, eh?
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, you can choose to add another panel
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, then add the applets to it
[05:25] <kevin06> What was the official reason for Ubuntu's break in Debian compatibility?
[05:25] <shaoqi> how to force an app to close, my gedit seems to be having some problems
[05:25] <cafuego_> tritium: it's not much less boring than golf.
[05:25] <IcemanV9> shaoqi: pkill -9 gedit
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, xkill
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> or that
[05:25] <cafuego_> tritium: I also live near a stadium, and whenever there's a game on, the punters park where they ought not, make noise and piss on houses and gardens.
[05:26] <tritium> ick
[05:26] <knewt> anyone else had any issues with an inspiron 6000 locking up hard a few seconds into the gnome logon sequence (whilst it's playing audio), with nothing in the log files to show for it?
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, gardens need that ... at least azaleas benefit from it
[05:26] <cafuego_> even dogs are not that bad
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> prevents fungi growth
[05:26] <shaoqi> thankks
[05:26] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda: The lemon tree is in the OTHER garden ;-)
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:26] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: ty, I am going to restart X and see if they come up again
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> crud
[05:27] <Wizzo> The Dell list said the touchpad worked fine for them.. :/
[05:27] <Wizzo> That doesn't sound good on my part.
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> I hope he told it to save the configuration
[05:27] <ongster> how do i make thunderbird my default instead of evolution?
[05:27] <sambagirl> breezy update did everything accourding to instructoins everything go ok but still not say breezy. oh well i try again later.
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, wait until you get the latest kernel... installed and booted
[05:28] <nalioth> sambagirl: breezy wont say breezy until oct 13, most likely
[05:28] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: ty
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:28] <barosl> when apache display Indexes, it restricts maximum length of title. how can i relieve this setting?
[05:28] <sambagirl> ahh
[05:28] <tritium> sambagirl, lsb_release -a says what?
[05:28] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, ok, i found the kernel parameter that SHOULD work
[05:28] <sambagirl> what i type to find out versoin?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> xx fingers
[05:29] <sambagirl> i did gnome about it doesnt say breezy
[05:29] <theconartist> NOOOOOOOO!!!!
[05:29] <theconartist> it doesnt :(
[05:29] <sambagirl> can i type ver somwhere?
[05:29] <sambagirl> oh well.
[05:30] <Wizzo> If I cancel the download of the updates I can resume it after right?
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, just sec
[05:30] <sambagirl> it wont say ubuntu anuymore? it say breezy?
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> sambagirl, open a terminal window
[05:30] <sambagirl> heh
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> lsb_release -a
[05:30] <sambagirl> sneezy breezy snoopy, slouchy, sloppy, burpy, slurpy sounds like snow white
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> Dapper Drake is next one
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:31] <IcemanV9> didn't know that irssi part of default installation?? cool.
[05:31] <sambagirl> says 5.04
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> hoary then
[05:32] <sambagirl> how do i see how much space i have on m drive?
[05:32] <Edu> Hi all. I am new here. Is it here where I could have some help with my installation?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> sambagirl, df -Th
[05:32] <sambagirl> ah cool
[05:32] <sambagirl> i had enough space
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> Edu, you just ask your question
[05:32] <sambagirl> your very bright
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> thnks
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:33] <sambagirl> must be brasilian
[05:33] <sambagirl> ;D
[05:33] <sambagirl> ok game time chao
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> chao
[05:33] <drsynackuator> everyone order their breezy CDs!!!
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:33] <fossa> hi, i'm having a problem with my install of breezy. it wants to upgrade x-common from1.06 to 1.08 but i get an error every time.
[05:34] <fossa> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[05:34] <gxc> me too
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> fossa, just wait on the next upgrade
[05:34] <Amaranth> file a bug report and don't upgrade that package until it's fixed
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> fossa, we have been having that issue today
[05:35] <nalioth> Amaranth: that bug has been asked about nigh on 100 times already tonight
[05:35] <theconartist> is there a problem with the ubuntu repo for breezy?
[05:35] <fossa> i c
[05:35] <crimsun> theconartist: a problem?
[05:35] <Amaranth> nalioth: I think another person is about to ask. ;)
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, just that it is in constant development and changes rapidly
[05:36] <theconartist> crimsun, nvm
[05:36] <theconartist> wait nope
[05:36] <Edu> Ok!... I have a Toshiba 325CDS and I installed the brezzy 5.1 from a image cd... after cd is done and machine try to boot by the hard disk I got a /dev/hda1 not found
[05:36] <crafteh> My friend said there is some apt server that has all kinds of packages that the main one doesn't ... like sun's java jre/jdk ... how do I add this server and find out about it?
[05:36] <poyie> ei!! can u pls help me how to install plugins in firefox
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, how can theconartist turn off apm? it seems to be an issue for him
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> breezy that is he is using
[05:36] <Amaranth> crafteh: due to legal issues it doesn't exist anymore
[05:37] <Amaranth> crafteh: well, it exists but it doesn't have that stuff on it
[05:37] <Edu> Actually it is " Alert! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"   Why is that?
[05:37] <BlueEagle> Nice. Opera 8.5 is now free (as in free beer).
[05:37] <crafteh> ah... I heard its not "official"... but that there is still one?
[05:37] <BlueEagle> Yes, the advertisments are gone.
[05:37] <durt> why do the fonts look worse in the debian sid version of opera as opposed to the ubuntu version
[05:37] <Serenity-> is there any other way to run games other than paying for Cedega ?
[05:37] <shaoqi> i tried to install codec, but i met with some errors
[05:37] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, i just removed ampd
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> BlueEagle, nice
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:37] <ghel> mga gago
[05:37] <shaoqi> i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats instructions
[05:37] <Amaranth> crafteh: there isn't one that i'm aware of, the one that had them is gone
[05:37] <fossa> i'm also having a problem getting xfce4-themes
[05:38] <shaoqi> but it says w32codecs couldnt be found
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, you can install winex using the svn method....
[05:38] <theconartist> but for some ugly reason i have to remove ubuntu-desktop with it which supposedly "can cause problems" according to it's pkg info
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> but not that easy
[05:38] <fossa> it depdnds on xfce4-panel , so quits, but i have xfce4-panel installled
[05:38] <shaoqi> what's wrong?
[05:38] <crafteh> Amaranth: ok thanks
[05:38] <Serenity-> ive used svn on my winbox before
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, ok
[05:38] <crafteh> How can I get mysql 4.3 from apt?
[05:38] <Serenity-> not the easiest though lol
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, i got it on this one before moving to hoary
[05:38] <crafteh> it seems to only have 4.0 :\
[05:39] <Amaranth> Serenity-: join #cedega, they should be able to help you with that
[05:39] <eagleye> Im new, can someone help me, need help bad
[05:39] <Serenity-> Amaranth: thanks :)
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> Amaranth, thanks
[05:39] <ColonelKernel> for instance - why doesnt glxgears give you any output in the text window?
[05:39] <Amaranth> crafteh: 4.3 isn't packaged for ubuntu yet, appearently
[05:39] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: known bug
[05:39] <[Lut] > whenever i try adding an icon to the desktop, it never appears - but if i look in the desktop folder the link icon is definately there
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> eagleye, just ask the question
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> someone will try
[05:39] <crimsun> fossa: where did you install xfce4-themes?
[05:39] <ColonelKernel> and theres no link to Open Terminal with you right click on the desktop
[05:39] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: though the output it gave was worthless anyway
[05:39] <shaoqi> i tried to install codec, but i met with some errors
[05:39] <eagleye> dont know where to start, linux is extremely new to me..
[05:39] <shaoqi> i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats instructions
[05:39] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: that is a gnome decision
[05:39] <shaoqi> but it says w32codecs couldnt be found
[05:39] <ColonelKernel> Amaranth, maybe to you, I found it informative.
[05:39] <theconartist> NO EVIL
[05:39] <fossa> crimsun it did not install; it refuses.
[05:39] <theconartist> DIE EVIL
[05:39] <durt> fossa, i get that error too :(
[05:40] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: nautilus-open-terminal package
[05:40] <theconartist> its still doing it
[05:40] <theconartist> omg
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> !newbies
[05:40] <ubotu> nomasteryoda: What?
[05:40] <tritium> doing what, theconartist ?
[05:40] <crafteh> Amaranth: sorry for all these newb questions... I'm switching from Gentoo so I don't know much about apt... does apt have stable/unstable versions of software like gentooo's portage system?
[05:40] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: how so? it's not a benchmarking tool
[05:40] <crimsun> fossa: that doesn't answer my question regarding the package's origin
[05:40] <nalioth> crafteh: no
[05:40] <theconartist> tritium, using apm
[05:40] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: it's mostly used to make sure hardware acceleration is working, which you can see by watching the gears themselves
[05:40] <ColonelKernel> Amaranth, it is in its own way.
[05:40] <crafteh> nalioth: thanks
[05:40] <tritium> crafteh, there's a stable release, and a release currently under development
[05:40] <crimsun> fossa: furthermore, please answer that question for xfce4-panel
[05:40] <eagleye> What is x window
[05:40] <ColonelKernel> it will let you know how efficiently its working
[05:40] <fossa> in synaptic, i clicked the box to install xfce4-panel
[05:41] <nalioth> crafteh: you have to go out of your way to get "unstable" stuff
[05:41] <Serenity-> xwindows is the desktop enviroment
[05:41] <fossa> when i click the box on xfce-themes it says "requires but will not install xfce-panel"
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> eagleye, your GUI ... where you mouse around... =)
[05:41] <eagleye> I cant figure out how to install programs and stuff..
[05:41] <durt> xfce-panel is version 4.2.2, but the themes require only 4.0.0, does this mean the themes are too old?
[05:41] <nalioth> !tell eagleye about synaptic
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <eagleye> I did figure that out somewhat
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <codomaniac> ???
[05:42] <tritium> poyie, please stop that
[05:42] <Serenity-> synaptic is your friend
[05:42] <Serenity-> you learn that reading the documents
[05:42] <Serenity-> poyie .. asking once is enough
[05:42] <codomaniac> untar it man poyie
[05:42] <Serenity-> tar -xvf filename.tar
[05:42] <Serenity-> or something
[05:42] <eagleye> How do you install something like Yahoo messenger that I downloaded
[05:42] <Serenity-> tar -xvf filename.tar.gz
[05:42] <Serenity-> sorry
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> eagleye, why not just use gaim?
[05:43] <tritium> eagleye, you know that gaim supports yahoo messenger protocol?
[05:43] <tristanmike> eagleye, Gaim is MSN, Yahoo, etc
[05:43] <knuckles> where can i find info on ubuntu repository?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> even jabber which is the gmail chat
[05:43] <locomorto> !repository
[05:43] <ubotu> locomorto: Are you smoking crack?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> !tell knuckles about repos
[05:43] <knuckles> thank you
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:43] <eagleye> Ok, not tried that yet
[05:43] <Serenity-> woohoo 1 hour to go on my download lol
[05:44] <Serenity-> big file :)
[05:44] <smx> egad .. has anyone else had cd burner problems with a 2.6 version kernel? Please... help....
[05:44] <vg3> no
[05:44] <fossa> well thanks anyway
[05:44] <IcemanV9> 1 hr? you're on dial-up?
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, you in Wisconsin?
[05:44] <Serenity-> no, my cable connection is shared with my entire apartment complex
[05:44] <eagleye> Is there anything that I should get to help me get used to this, I am a diehard windows user, until my drive blew up
[05:44] <Serenity-> nomasteryoda: Illinois
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> well that was kinda close
[05:45] <Serenity-> not too far :)
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> madisonriver
[05:45] <nalioth> eagleye: library books
[05:45] <eagleye> lol
[05:45] <Serenity-> yeah, my cable company is a subsidary of their's
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> georgia here
[05:45] <Madpilot> !tell eagleye about docs
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> nalioth, LOL
[05:46] <linner> nalioth: hey there
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> some libraries are just too darn behind the times on Linux books... but the basics are there in most
[05:46] <IcemanV9> Serenity-: i'm from roselle .. you?
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> even with old unix books
[05:46] <Serenity-> normal
[05:46] <Amaranth> poyie: please don't spam with repeat messages anymore
[05:46] <Serenity-> well bloomington/normal
[05:46] <smx> no more "hdx=ide-scsi" ...  but how do you find the scsi interface to the drive?  I know this will be ignored, but I am so frustrated ...
[05:46] <theconartist> omg im mother freakin mad
[05:46] <linner> ooohhh I'm so frustrated.... one full week of trying to get a friggin' distro on my system... and the only two that work are MEPIS (which I hate) and SuSE which I can't figure out
[05:46] <linner> :(
[05:46] <linner> I want UBUNTU!!!!
[05:46] <IcemanV9> yep. knew where is normal. ;)
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, been thru bloomington
[05:47] <tritium> linner, have you tried breezy?
[05:47] <theconartist> apmd is gone, acpi=off, but it still does it
[05:47] <Serenity-> its nice and quiet here :)
[05:47] <Serenity-> cept for the random shootings lol
[05:47] <afaik> ookay guys... I have video problems and want to fix this damn problem tonight...
[05:47] <Madpilot> There's an actual town called Normal? That's... abnormal...
[05:47] <Madpilot> ;)
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, yikes
[05:47] <afaik> videos play just fine, but...
[05:47] <nalioth> Madpilot: several
[05:47] <Serenity-> lol yeah my town is called normal :)
[05:47] <eagleye> Where is there a good place to get stuff for unbuntu
[05:47] <Serenity-> better than Mianus
[05:47] <afaik> awhile in, it gets chopy, slows down, and the processor goes into overtime
[05:47] <Madpilot> Serenity-: and is it?
[05:47] <afaik> this is unnacceptable :(
[05:47] <Serenity-> i'd hate to live in Mianus
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:47] <wasabi> Um. I'n trying to compile a program which links against ffmpeg. It requires avformat.h, which is fine, libavformat-dev, however it can't link against the symbols... there is no shared lib.
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> ROTF
[05:47] <Serenity-> Madpilot: no, far from it :)
[05:47] <wasabi> ffmpeg doesn't include one.
[05:47] <Madpilot> eagleye: see the msg that ubotu sent you a minute or so ago...
[05:48] <wasabi> there is no libavformat package
[05:48] <afaik> I have to keep stopping, restarting, and skopping to where it began skipping to finish watching
[05:48] <afaik> wtf?
[05:48] <Chii_Chan> hello
[05:48] <Serenity-> its hard to keep up in here, feels like im in a XDCC channel on dalnet
[05:48] <Serenity-> lol
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> afaik, you might want to turn on dma
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[05:48] <Amaranth> afaik: what player?
[05:48] <IcemanV9> is everyone using Ubuntu in your apt complex, Serenity- ?? otherwise, they cannot use your bandwidth. :P
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> afaik, IMHO xine is good on ubuntu
[05:49] <Serenity-> no they arent
[05:49] <Amaranth> Serenity-: this is why when you are talking to someone you put their name before the message, like i'm doing right now with you
[05:49] <Wizzo> nomasteryoda, fixed it.
[05:49] <Wizzo> Touchpad now works.
[05:49] <afaik> using_dma    =  1 (on)
[05:49] <afaik> noatun
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, good
[05:49] <Serenity-> Amaranth: yeah nick complete is nice :)
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, the updates?
[05:49] <Wizzo> Just changed the xorg config.
[05:49] <Wizzo> No.
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:49] <Wizzo> They're still going.
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> yea that makes sense
[05:49] <Wizzo> I'm not using synaptics driver.
[05:49] <Serenity-> IcemanV9: what do you mean thay cant use my bandwidth?
[05:49] <afaik> any reason why it does this?
[05:50] <crimsun> wasabi: did it pull in libavcodec-dev and libpostproc-dev?
[05:50] <Wizzo> Now it works fine. And the sensitivity doesnt change,
[05:50] <Wizzo> So it's good.
[05:50] <wasabi> Yes. I have the -devs
[05:50] <Wizzo> Thanks for the help.
[05:50] <wasabi> There are no actual shared libs though
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> afaik, I've never gotten  noatun to work properly
[05:50] <afaik> now I cannot play it all
[05:50] <wasabi> It compiles, but doesn't link.
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:50] <afaik> piece of crap
[05:50] <afaik> I will try xine
[05:50] <eagleye> I want to know how to install things, example yahoo,  says to login as root then type a command then run a thing in x window, I dont understand this..
[05:50] <Chii_Chan> try typing sudo and then the command
[05:50] <afaik> Reading package lists... Done
[05:50] <afaik> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:50] <afaik> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:50] <afaik> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:50] <afaik> is only available from another source
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> afaik, also add the extra repos  - restricted, etc..
[05:50] <Chii_Chan> worked for me o.o
[05:51] <IcemanV9> Serenity-: heh. share your cable connection with everyone in the apt complex. they all should be required to use Ubuntu. ... nah, never mind.
[05:51] <Madpilot> !tell eagleye about synaptic
[05:51] <Wizzo> I do have another question though. How do I change what programs start at startup?
[05:51] <esac> make dep is unnecessary now ?
[05:51] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, what is the kernel parameter for disabling acpi, acpi=off?
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> !tell afaik about repos
[05:51] <Wizzo> I don't need things like spufreq and ntp.
[05:51] <Serenity-> acpi=off
[05:51] <Wizzo> And they fail anyway.
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, yes
[05:51] <afaik> I got all the repos
[05:51] <nalioth> Wizzo: system > prefs > sessions
[05:51] <Wizzo> Ok.
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> afaik, apt-get update
[05:51] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[05:51] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, damnit, then what is going on :(
[05:51] <afaik> Serenity-, yeah, how can I turn acpi off? or does it need to be on? for my laptop?
[05:51] <smx> apt-get implode
[05:51] <afaik> nomasteryoda, I already did that
[05:51] <tritium> theconartist, stay calm.  It'll be okay.  Take a deep breath
[05:51] <afaik> I needed to get w32 codecs
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> afaik, then xine should be there...
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> yes
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> i'm gonna go kill some tanks... bbl
[05:52] <durt> what game nomasteryoda?
[05:52] <crimsun> wasabi: where does it barf? which -l?
[05:52] <theconartist> tritium, no it wont!!!!11!1one!
[05:52] <afaik> my sound server crashed
[05:53] <Wizzo> nalioth, there is nothing in the startup menu.
[05:53] <afaik> I installes xine-ui
[05:53] <wasabi> crimsun, not sure... i gues it might be a build error, which is fine, I just need to know what -l I should fix it with
[05:53] <wasabi>  -lmp3lame -lavcodec -lcrypto -lmysqlclient -ldl -lz -ljpeg
[05:53] <wasabi> zm_mpeg.o(.text+0x7): In function `VideoStream::Initialise()':
[05:53] <Serenity-> man downloading at 90 KB/sec isnt fun
[05:53] <nalioth> !tell Wizzo about bum
[05:54] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[05:54] <Edu> Folks, I downloaded the Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger" Preview Release my machine does not boot after I installed it from cd
[05:54] <eagleye> Where can I get different backgrounds and stuff?
[05:54] <Chii_Chan> anyone here know much about ndiswrapper? >.<
[05:54] <Serenity-> Edu: more info please :)
[05:54] <tritium> Edu, what happens?  Do you see the grub boot loader?
[05:54] <Edu> I got a /dev/hda1 does not exist
[05:55] <toky> eagleye: gnome-look.org
[05:55] <tritium> At what point do you see that, Edu ?
[05:55] <durt> chii_chan: dont know much , but i use it
[05:55] <toky> eagleye: KDE-look.org
[05:55] <smx> i ran apt-get install newporn   all i got was an ad for Wheel of Fortune
[05:55] <afaik> how can I hide the xine controller?
[05:55] <nalioth> eagleye: www.deviantart.com
[05:55] <crimsun> wasabi: lavcodec is satisfied by libavcodec-dev; it looks like another issue
[05:55] <Edu> Ok, after I installed the image from cd disk, machine asked me to remove the cd and hit enter to reboot.. then....
[05:55] <afaik> it covers the damn screen while watching the video full screen?
[05:55] <eagleye> Thank you much
[05:56] <afaik> anyway to hide it?
[05:56] <Madpilot> !+themese
[05:56] <ubotu> Madpilot: Not a clue
[05:56] <Madpilot> !+themes
[05:56] <ubotu> methinks themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[05:56] <Chii_Chan> Durt... for some reason I can get linux to detect my wireless lan card, it even detects the networks in the area.  But when connected to the network (I think it is anyways) I cannot use the internet >.<
[05:56] <wasabi> crimsun, yeah, I just figured out hwo to complete disable ffmpeg/av support.
[05:56] <Chii_Chan> Right now Im connected via ethernet cable to my network but I want to get wireless working
[05:56] <Madpilot> eagleye: see ubotu above ^^^
[05:56] <Edu> then... it starts to uncompress LINUX  (load the kernel run initrd, save default boot)  and there are some messages about
[05:56] <wasabi> Looks liek the apt doesn't really require it that much
[05:57] <crimsun> wasabi: are you messing with vlc? ;)
[05:57] <wasabi> zoneminder.com
[05:57] <afaik> please, how do I just hide the xine controller?
[05:57] <crimsun> wasabi: ah.
[05:57] <Edu> files that exists. Than I get : " ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[05:57] <Serenity-> Edu: you may need to edit the grub.conf file
[05:57] <Serenity-> grub.conf may have the wrong hda in there
[05:58] <Serenity-> if you have a live cd you can use it to view the actual hda listing
[05:58] <durt> chii_chan, have you activated the card with through the gnome network manager?
[05:58] <eagleye> Anymore useful sites would be appreciated, Cool stuff, etc..
[05:58] <Chii_Chan> I believe so...
[05:58] <Edu> tritium: grub boot loader? ... I am not sure... I have the error messages in the other machine (the one I am trying to install) but doesn't say grub boot loader
[05:59] <sjohnson> hey dudes, anyone know how to burn an .IMG in linux?
[05:59] <Chii_Chan> img isnt that the same as an iso or other cd image?
[05:59] <Serenity-> cd image file
[05:59] <Chii_Chan> If so that should be on the newbie forums, the program that does that
[05:59] <tritium> eagleye, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:59] <afaik> god linux apps are trash :(
[06:00] <Edu> Serenity: where is tht file? what do I have to put there
[06:00] <Edu> Serenity: i
[06:00] <Chii_Chan> how would I access the gnome network manager?
[06:00] <Serenity-> Edu: i have no clue :)
[06:00] <theconartist> omfg i hate the thinkpad APM
[06:00] <crimsun> theconartist: what model TP?
[06:00] <theconartist> crimsun, r31
[06:00] <Serenity-> !tell Edu grub
[06:00] <afaik> all my stuff keeps crashing
[06:00] <sjohnson> hmm having no luck, anyone know which program to burn .IMG files with?
[06:00] <Serenity-> !tell Edu grub.conf
[06:01] <Serenity-> :(
[06:01] <theconartist> afaik, you are trash
[06:01] <Chii_Chan> grub is a boot loader
[06:01] <nalioth> Serenity-: it's "tell <nick> about <factoid>"
[06:01] <Edu> Serenity: I have a live cd  the hda list looks fine when I boot with the live cd... the machine even works with the live cd! :-)
[06:01] <Serenity-> oh
[06:01] <Serenity-> !tell Edu about grub.conf
[06:01] <Chii_Chan> A menu which allows you to load the different OS on yoru computer
[06:01] <Serenity-> !tell Edu about grub
[06:01] <theconartist> lol
[06:01] <Serenity-> there we go
[06:01] <Serenity-> sorry it took so many tries :(
[06:01] <Chii_Chan> !tell me gnome network manager
[06:02] <Chii_Chan> bleh
[06:02] <Chii_Chan> it has no help for me >.<
[06:02] <theconartist> !tell theconartist HOW TO MAKE APM NOT BE STUPID
[06:02] <nalioth> theconartist: easy mister
[06:02] <crimsun> R31 eh?
[06:02] <theconartist> ubotu> No, theconartist, I won't.
[06:02] <ubotu> theconartist: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:02] <crimsun> theconartist: why aren't you using ACPI?
[06:02] <theconartist> ubotu, worse
[06:02] <ubotu> theconartist: I haven't a clue
[06:03] <Serenity-> so i think i will spend all day sunday getting the svn of winex and compiling it :)
[06:03] <Serenity-> will be a fun learning experience :)
[06:03] <docgnome> does anyone have any experience with ppp connections in ubuntu?
[06:03] <theconartist> crimsun, the problem is something is probing the battery monitor
[06:04] <theconartist> and i cant figure out wtf it is
[06:04] <knuckles> my system works like a charm thank you
[06:04] <Chii_Chan> faust?
[06:05] <Chii_Chan> Faustian from PE? lol
[06:05] <Chii_Chan> Sorry if not, but the name is familiar
[06:05] <IceDragon> hmm
[06:05] <IceDragon> ok
[06:05] <docgnome> I have done pppconfig and set up my connection... it won't dial unless i change the init string to atm1dt<number> then it dials and gets up to the login, but it doesn't sent the username or the password, instead it sends... AT^M
[06:05] <IceDragon> got ubuntu reinstalled
[06:05] <IceDragon> didnt fux0r with anything
[06:05] <IceDragon> how would I install a tar package now?
[06:06] <tritium> IceDragon, there is no ubuntu package of what you want to install?
[06:06] <drummer87> firefox is working :) had to killall firefox-bin
[06:06] <Chii_Chan> How would I access gnome network manager?
[06:06] <IceDragon> nope
[06:06] <IceDragon> I got cedega
[06:07] <IceDragon> :-\
[06:07] <drummer87> how do i install fonts in ubuntu?? i have some .ttf files
[06:07] <Serenity-> there are docs on the cedega site
[06:07] <Serenity-> or join #cedega
[06:07] <theconartist> how do i search for packages with apt
[06:07] <docgnome> theconartist: apt-cache search <string>
[06:08] <Serenity-> theconartist: or you could use Synaptic
[06:08] <nalioth> !tell IceDragon about cli
[06:08] <dabaR> or aptitude aptitude search packageName
[06:08] <crimsun> theconartist: does it display in the framebuffer correctly?
[06:08] <nalioth> drummer87: put any TTF font in your home directory in .fonts
[06:08] <Serenity-> oh yeah, forgot about aptitude :)
[06:08] <tritium> theconartist, with apt-cache search
[06:08] <inthenow> did they fix xcommon yet?
[06:09] <IceDragon> oh another question
[06:09] <inthenow> oh no they didnt fix xcommon
[06:09] <Serenity-> does ubuntu use Xorg ?
[06:09] <inthenow> ya
[06:09] <inthenow> it uses xorg
[06:09] <drummer87> nalioth, i have no .fonts folder, do i just make one?
[06:09] <IceDragon> How do I get linux to read from my ntfs partition, using the pre-installed ntfs module that came with ubuntu hoary
[06:09] <Serenity-> okay, cause i was reading that xorg has my video card working pretty well
[06:09] <nalioth> drummer87: yes
[06:09] <theconartist> anyone know the kernel sources package?
[06:09] <theconartist> +name
[06:09] <nalioth> !tell IceDragon about ntfs
[06:10] <inthenow> IceDragon: mount -t ntfs /dev/device /mnt/c
[06:10] <docgnome> IceDragon: That is a good way to screw up your ntfs partition, in my experience.
[06:10] <Chii_Chan> How would I access gnome network manager?
[06:10] <La_PaRCa> theconartist, linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:10] <Serenity-> if i dual boot i should make my windows partition fat32 right?
[06:10] <Serenity-> linux likes it better right?
[06:10] <docgnome> yes
[06:10] <inthenow> oh ok yes it screwed up my ntfs partition. thats what did it. dont do it
[06:10] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Only if you plan on writing data to it from Linux.
[06:11] <Serenity-> and what do i wanna install first, linux or windows?
[06:11] <nalioth> Serenity-: if you want to share files tween linux and windows, yes
[06:11] <Serenity-> yeah I'm going to do sharing
[06:11] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Install WIndows first, then Linux.
[06:11] <inthenow> ntfs reading is experimental
[06:11] <dabaR> Chii_Chan: System, Admin, Networking.
[06:11] <nalioth> Serenity-: windows loves the taste of linux boot loaders, it should go first
[06:11] <Serenity-> lol okay :)
[06:11] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Note that WIndows can read from and write to ext2 and ext3 just fine.
[06:11] <Serenity-> too bad i cant just resize this one
[06:11] <wasabi> crimsun, still having some trouble, maybe you can help. ;)
[06:11] <wasabi> /usr/lib/libavformat.a(ogg.o)(.text+0x44): In function `ogg_write_header':
[06:11] <wasabi> : undefined reference to `ogg_stream_init'
[06:11] <Serenity-> but i hate partition magic
[06:11] <inthenow> remeber boys and girls. If you steal windows you are supporting it
[06:11] <docgnome> cafuego_: since when?
[06:11] <wasabi> Looks like it's just missing a -logg or -lvorbis or something.
[06:12] <wasabi> But I'm not sure how to modify the make files to include it.
[06:12] <cafuego_> Serenity-: I head the Ubuntu partition manager cna resize ntfs without problems. Just defrag it first.
[06:12] <IceDragon> docgnome, I just want to listen to music is all
[06:12] <cafuego_> docgnome: ext2fsd (sourceforge)
[06:12] <Serenity-> i'll just do a clean install, its about time for it
[06:12] <Serenity-> its been about 2 years
[06:12] <Serenity-> lol
[06:12] <inthenow> stop using windows. ubuntu which is free mind do everything and more
[06:12] <yuyudhana> I have problem with ping. ping <ip> works fine. ping <hostname> sends out packets only in 10 sec intervals instead of 1 sec intervals. The ethereal trace shows ping trying reverse DNS lookup twice with a delay of 5 sec in between the two reverse lookups. In that 10 sec interval ctrl-c has no effect. I cant kill ping !!
[06:12] <inthenow> might do everything and more
[06:12] <tritium> inthenow, they can use whatever they want
[06:12] <inthenow> tritium: yes they can
[06:12] <drummer87> thanks nalioth
[06:13] <crimsun> wasabi: yeah, libogg-dev. Is ./configure working correctly?
[06:13] <inthenow> yes they can
[06:13] <Chii_Chan> okey
[06:13] <cafuego_> yuyudhana: Try ctrl-backslash
[06:13] <Serenity-> inthenow: unfortunately i require windows for a few applications :(
[06:13] <wasabi> crimsun, I suspect ./configure forgets about it. Buggy.
[06:13] <inthenow> Serenity-: so do i but i sent it packing
[06:13] <docgnome> inthenow: at the momment i'm trying to get ubuntu running in virtual pc, because my isp is a bunch if effing morons, and i can't connect from FreeBSD -_-
[06:13] <dabaR> yuyudhana: stop pinging things if there is no meaning behind it. If there is a meaning, you should mention it too.
[06:13] <Chii_Chan> it is activated
[06:13] <Chii_Chan> but when I disconnecdt my ethernet card my wireless modem even though it knows where the network is wont work
[06:14] <inthenow> docgnome: get on the phone and straighten the morons out
[06:14] <dabaR> Chii_Chan: your wireless is not working?
[06:14] <Serenity-> friends dont let friends ping the internet :(
[06:14] <cyphase> i don't have one thankfully :)
[06:14] <Chii_Chan> it detects networks, but I cannot use the internet with it
[06:14] <inthenow> docgnome: we all have to do our part here
[06:14] <yuyudhana> cafuego_: ctrl-backslash does not work
[06:14] <docgnome> inthenow: No, it's a free ISP and they charge $10 a phone call.
[06:14] <regeya> the internet is broke someone call al gore
[06:14] <yuyudhana> dabaR: I am just trying ping www.google.com
[06:14] <dabaR> Chii_Chan: can you ping the router with only wireless?
[06:14] <docgnome> I'm not gonna drop ten bucks for them to say "wull it works for us"
[06:14] <dabaR> yuyudhana: for what reason?
[06:14] <Serenity-> i won the internet, then i started over :(
[06:14] <wasabi> Heh. I just patched the Makefile.
[06:14] <wasabi> Oh well
[06:15] <Chii_Chan> going to try connecting to one of the alternate no pwed networks around to see if that works, lol
[06:15] <inthenow> docgnome: what are you amish ;)
[06:15] <Chii_Chan> mine has pw so that might be causing troubles
[06:15] <yuyudhana> dabaR: just find out the packet delay let us assume
[06:15] <dabaR> yuyudhana: your internet is slow?
[06:15] <nalioth> tritium: insure your tongue
[06:15] <docgnome> inthenow: no just too poor to afford broadband and unwilling to pay for crappy dialup :-P
[06:16] <yuyudhana> dabaR: I said ping <ip> is fine. Only ping <hostname> has the problem and I can't kill ping in between a 10 sec interval.
[06:16] <Serenity-> 25 mins until this dl is done :(
[06:16] <tritium> nalioth, no sweat
[06:16] <yuyudhana> dabaR: BTW I am on a 256 Kbps broadband connection
[06:16] <inthenow> docgnome: your poor cause your stealing windows.
[06:16] <nalioth> tritium: no sweat = no good
[06:16] <docgnome> inthenow: Stealing windows?
[06:17] <dabaR> yuyudhana: I do not think you have an issue. just stop pinging things, its not a game, its a network diagnostic tool.
[06:17] <inthenow> docgnome: or no you paid for it sorry
[06:17] <docgnome> inthenow: how am I stealing windows?
[06:17] <tritium> nalioth, agreed
[06:17] <docgnome> inthenow: heh well I got a free copy through my college
[06:17] <yuyudhana> dabaR: :) funny
[06:17] <sinned> Hey guys
[06:17] <sinned> Can someone help me with something
[06:17] <dabaR> I can help you with telling you not to ask that type of question.
[06:17] <sinned> I was playing a game in cedega when it crashed and my resolution of gnome changed to what I was using in the game
[06:17] <Serenity-> if god meant us to have the power of ping, we would be made of silicon and wiring :(
[06:17] <Ainvar`> so whats better helix player or realplayer?
[06:18] <crimsun> better? from a freedom perspective, the former.
[06:18] <Serenity-> sinned: reboot?
[06:18] <sinned> and when I try and change the resolution now, i get an error and can't
[06:18] <docgnome> Serenity-: Ping!
[06:18] <sinned> :/
[06:18] <Serenity-> docgnome: pong!
[06:18] <docgnome> :-P
[06:18] <sinned> There has to be a way to manually change the resolution
[06:18] <inthenow> sinned: what game?
[06:18] <sinned> WoW
[06:18] <Serenity-> sinned: thats what I'm going to be installing on my linux box :)
[06:18] <docgnome> so does anyone know anything about ppp connections?
[06:18] <sinned> ol
[06:18] <sinned> lol
[06:19] <Serenity-> WoW = love :)
[06:19] <inthenow> Serenity-: is that the pay online version?
[06:19] <Ainvar`> I am looking at getting WoW and GW loaded on my linux box
[06:19] <Serenity-> yeah
[06:19] <Ainvar`> that way I can say buh bye to WinXP
[06:19] <Serenity-> i pay 15.99 a month for WoW
[06:19] <inthenow> i think i had enougth of pay online versions
[06:19] <omp> if i get rid of firefox, would epiphany still work?
[06:19] <dabaR> the ppp stands for peer to peer
[06:19] <crimsun> omp: yes. It depends on mozilla-browser.
[06:19] <Serenity-> Ainvar`: yeah me too, i need Outlook Express and WoW to run on linux
[06:19] <Serenity-> and i can say bye bye to windows
[06:19] <Ainvar`> hehe
[06:19] <omp> crimsun: okay thanks :)
[06:20] <sinned> Yeah
[06:20] <nalioth> omp: yes
[06:20] <sinned> when I try and change the resolution
[06:20] <Ainvar`> now if only I can find something similar to GrabIT and Realplayer alternative for linux and it will be for the win
[06:20] <docgnome> Serenity-: why not just use evolution or whatever that gnome mail client is called?
[06:20] <sinned> I get an error saying the xserver doesn't support xran and something plugin
[06:20] <sinned> You can not change the resolution
[06:20] <Serenity-> my online school requires outlook express
[06:20] <docgnome> or KMail
[06:20] <sinned> Is there a way to manually change the resolution?
[06:20] <docgnome> what?
[06:20] <nalioth> Serenity-: try it with evolution
[06:20] <Serenity-> sinned: the control pannel
[06:21] <sinned> Ugh
[06:21] <sinned> I just said it won't let me
[06:21] <Ainvar`> why is oe a requirment? If I may ask that
[06:21] <Serenity-> nalioth: okay ill give it a shot, worst thing that could happen, is that it doesnt work
[06:21] <sinned> nalioth, is there any way to manually change gnomes resolution
[06:21] <sinned> Cedega crashed and gnome won't let me change the resolution
[06:21] <Serenity-> sinned: you could manually edit the xorg config file
[06:21] <Serenity-> i guess
[06:21] <sinned> Well I remember there was a way to manually reset it
[06:22] <nalioth> Serenity-: have you ever heard of spoofing?
[06:22] <sinned> because this has happened to me before :/
[06:22] <Madpilot> !tell sinned about fixres
[06:22] <Serenity-> ip/hostmask spoofing?
[06:22] <nalioth> sinned: in a terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:22] <sinned> wtf
[06:22] <sinned> No please
[06:22] <sinned> Thanks Madpilot
[06:22] <Ainvar`> if I could get evolution to work with exchange 5.5 I would be happy but everything I read on it says for exchange 2000 or higher
[06:22] <JustSteve> Serenity, they probably only "support" outlook express at your school
[06:22] <nalioth> Serenity-: you can 'spoof' your evolutions identity
[06:23] <Chii_Chan> am I still on?
[06:23] <Chii_Chan> testing
[06:23] <Serenity-> JustSteve: well the classes are added by clicking a link
[06:23] <docgnome> Chii_Chan: No, You're not.
[06:23] <docgnome> Chii_Chan: :-p
[06:23] <Serenity-> im going to see if i can just manually add in the classes in a linux mail client
[06:23] <Serenity-> see if that works :)
[06:23] <JustSteve> Serenity: well unless it's some sort of activeX junk it should be alright
[06:24] <Serenity-> well that and i can only access the site using IE
[06:24] <omp> what is the ubuntu-desktop package? (it wants to get removed when i remove evolution)
[06:24] <docgnome> does anyone know of a way that i can talk directly to my modem in ubuntu with out using pon and the like?
[06:24] <Chii_Chan> ugh
[06:24] <Ainvar> uggg that means horrible website design
[06:24] <Serenity-> firefox doesnt work with it
[06:24] <Chii_Chan> stupid thing can SEE the networks but not use it :/
[06:24] <dabaR> omp: it is a package that has a list of all things that make up the common ubunut desktop. Whenever you remove a packlage that is part of the standard ubuntu dekstop, like evolution, it will be removed. It is fine, since it is only a list of packages, some call it a metapackage.
[06:25] <Ohmer> anybody with a tv card and sound with the tv on breezy ?
[06:25] <Ohmer> I lost my tv sound in the upgrade :(
[06:25] <Arkainium> I keep getting this really annoying problem.  Every once in a while gnome won't finish loading my desktop and complains about a HAL error. What should I do?
[06:25] <eagleye> Im so confused... :(
[06:26] <omp> dabaR: oh that explains it, thanks a lot  (i just change from gentoo to ubuntu breezy so i don
[06:26] <omp> ahh
[06:26] <nalioth> eagleye: about what?
[06:26] <omp> don't know much about it)
[06:27] <eagleye> installing things..  I know about synaptic, but how the heck do you install something you downloaded
[06:27] <docgnome> Arkainium: Don't take your box on a long trip into space with you?
[06:27] <nalioth> eagleye: what do you want to install that isnt in synaptic?
[06:27] <tritium> eagleye, with dpkg.  What did you download?
[06:27] <eagleye> yahoo messenger, Im used to it.
[06:28] <tritium> eagleye, you don't want to try gaim?
[06:28] <yuyudhana> eagleye: Use dpkg -i <name of yahoo msgr package>
[06:28] <JustSteve> yahoo messenger for linux is UGLY like 1995
[06:28] <tritium> the linux version of yahoo messenger is not like the windows version you're used to
[06:29] <eagleye> yes, the debian version
[06:29] <crimsun> tritium gets the understatement award =)
[06:29] <valtea> talking about yahoo.. i cant connect to my yahoo chat using gaim
[06:29] <Serenity-> woohoo i just checked out the tech support for my school, they say i can use linux, but have to call in and setup the accounts manually
[06:29] <eagleye> me neither
[06:30] <nalioth> Serenity-: see? they are reasonable folks
[06:30] <tritium> crimsun, :)
[06:30] <docgnome> Serenity-: Punch them in the teeth while you are at it for being big dorks.
[06:30] <nalioth> Serenity-: they
[06:30] <nalioth> 're probably glad you ARE using linujx
[06:30] <Serenity-> lol just in case, im going to write down all the ports/address on paper
[06:30] <eagleye> look on the yahoo download page, and see how it says to install the debian version..Im confused about that.
[06:30] <Serenity-> so i can just manually add them in after i reinstall
[06:31] <valtea> anyone have tried?
[06:31] <anethema> hey does anyone know how to burn a .IMG file in ubuntu (to dvd)
[06:32] <anethema> gnomebaker says it doesnt recognize the format
[06:33] <valtea> is there somekind of a netmeeting client
[06:33] <nalioth> anethema: use cdrecord
[06:33] <nalioth> valtea: gnomemeeting
[06:33] <Bicchi> i noticed that my open applications in my taskbar take too much space. how can i shorten the amount of information that gets displayed there. i am using gnome offcourse.
[06:33] <eagleye> where do I use dbkg -i , in what?
[06:33] <valtea> thanks
[06:33] <anethema> hmmm
[06:33] <anethema> like..
[06:33] <anethema> how will cdrecord know the format?
[06:34] <anethema> if it isnt in ISO format wont cdrecord balk ?
[06:34] <cafuego_> why would cdrecord care?
[06:34] <cafuego_> It's just data. Just burn it.
[06:34] <anethema> because if its not just raw data it wont record properly
[06:34] <docgnome> gosh... i had that BSOD screen saver on
[06:34] <cafuego_> Not _properly_, different issue.
[06:34] <anethema> if it was just data like an iso or whatever i think gnomebaker would do it
[06:35] <docgnome> had a moment of panic there...
[06:35] <cafuego_> anethema: loop mount it, see what's on it.
[06:35] <anethema> ok
[06:35] <eagleye> where do I type this in at dpkg -i <name of package, blah blah
[06:36] <valtea> using gmome meeting i found that my ubuntu does not recognise my Webcam
[06:36] <valtea> its logitech webcam
[06:36] <valtea> usb Device
[06:36] <Serenity-> woohoo 5% to go :D
[06:36] <IceDragon> just got back
[06:36] <IceDragon> okay
[06:36] <IceDragon> ran the script ot mount the ntfs drives
[06:36] <IceDragon> and it was successful
[06:36] <IceDragon> now where do I find where it mounted to?
[06:37] <wasabi> Sep 23 23:36:58 localhost mysqld[22682] : mysqld got signal 11;
[06:37] <wasabi> great.
[06:37] <valtea> any help in configuring my webcam
[06:37] <Serenity-> i hate how long it takes to reinstall windows.. thats like an hour of my life im not getting back
[06:37] <Serenity-> lol
[06:37] <omp> is there an apt-get command to list all installed packages?
[06:37] <eagleye> where do I type this in at dpkg -i <name of package, blah blah, sorry Im stupid, this is all new to me..
[06:37] <crimsun> omp: no, but there's dpkg -l
[06:37] <anethema> cafuego, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,
[06:37] <valtea> eagleye,  type that in the terminal
[06:37] <anethema> so obviously not in iso format
[06:37] <omp> crimsun: that's good enough, thanks
[06:37] <valtea> rightclick on the desktop
[06:37] <valtea> and open terminal
[06:38] <eagleye> thank you
[06:38] <Madpilot> eagleye: cd to whatever directory has the deb file in it, then do the dpkg stuff
[06:38] <eagleye> ok, kinda like dos right
[06:38] <valtea> con someone help me. my webcam is not being detected
[06:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> this article on /. is hilarious.  We calculated that, if acetylene is reacting with the hydrogen gas to turn it back into methane, quite a bit of energy is being released. So that's our basis for saying there is something to eat on Titan. We don't know if there are any customers, but there's something on the menu."
[06:38] <dabaR> omp: dpkg -l |less will help you read it.
[06:38] <valtea> yes eagleye
[06:38] <valtea> i would rather say Dos is like Linux
[06:38] <valtea> hehhe
[06:38] <omp> dabaR: yah i know :)
[06:39] <anethema> cafuego, any idea?
[06:39] <omp> dabaR: i'm not new to linux, just new to ubuntu
[06:39] <dabaR> ah, yes, you said so.
[06:39] <cdemwell> Hi
[06:39] <eagleye> are the commands the same as dos.. or a bit different..
[06:40] <cdemwell> I'm having the damnedest time with a new kubuntu install
[06:40] <anethema> does -anyone- know how to burn a .img file?
[06:40] <cdemwell> All the users on the system see applications appropriately in the k menu, and can edit the k menu with kmenuedit... excpet steve
[06:40] <glick> hello all
[06:40] <cdemwell> Poor steve!
[06:40] <nalioth> anethema: use cdrecord
[06:40] <sambagirl> i install breezy but is nothing happening
[06:40] <cdemwell> nothing happens for him.
[06:40] <valtea> anethema, try Nero Linux
[06:40] <cdemwell> I've seen several posts about it in the forums, but no replies
[06:40] <mgcross> hello all!
[06:40] <glick> ubuntu is great!
[06:41] <glick> however...
[06:41] <anethema> nalioth, it isnt gonna work unless i can figure out some custom way to write the format
[06:41] <glick> it, nor any linux is for the run of the mill average computer user
[06:41] <Serenity-> so if i dont care about reading my windows partition in linux, i can leave it NTFS right?
[06:41] <glick> i installed ubuntu for a friend of mine
[06:41] <glick> a business dude
[06:41] <nalioth> anethema: did you read the manpage?
[06:41] <glick> and i am recommending him to go back to windows
[06:41] <mgcross> Quick question if I may...moving from an nvidia mx400 to a 6600gt...will I need to reinstall drivers...not sure...
[06:41] <anethema> the word img not found
[06:41] <Madpilot> eagleye: different from dos... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands for some basics
[06:42] <Serenity-> mgcross: probably
[06:42] <mgcross> hmmm...aptget purge nvidia-glx?
[06:42] <sjohnson> whein
[06:42] <Madpilot> Serenity-: yes, but you can mount your ntfs partition read-only
[06:42] <nalioth> anethema: http://www.google.com/search?q=burn+.img+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[06:43] <Chii_Chan> what is the command which is needed to do admin/root stuff?  its a four letter one but I dont remember it off the top of my head right now >.,
[06:43] <eagleye> thank you
[06:43] <crimsun> Chii_Chan: sudo
[06:43] <Chii_Chan> ty ^.^
[06:43] <IceDragon> Whats a good media player for linux comparative to winamp?
[06:43] <cdemwell> well, this sucks
[06:43] <sjohnson> nalioth: i've googled that before, no luck
[06:43] <cdemwell> If I can't solve this issue, Steve will want windows back
[06:43] <cdemwell> That's not good
[06:43] <nalioth> sjohnson: hmmm
[06:43] <holycow> IceDragon, beep media player
[06:44] <sjohnson> how do i found out the x,x,x scsi mapping for my burner?
[06:44] <Chii_Chan> linux is not for people unwilling to learn and experiment I am finding out
[06:44] <anethema> nalioth, while i do apreciate help, dont get me wrong, just pointing me to a google link which i was already looking at doesnt help me much :)
[06:44] <mgcross> icedragon: beep or xmms..but I prefer amarok to both
[06:44] <nalioth> anethema: sorry mister.
[06:44] <glick> hehe yet he refuses to take my advise
[06:44] <anethema> i do apreciate help though
[06:44] <crimsun> sjohnson: use /dev/hdX unless you have an actual SCSI burner
[06:44] <glick> he says his system has never run so stable in its entire history
[06:44] <mrchicago> hay anyone know how to publish on sourceforge
[06:44] <glick> and that a person has to be a moron to use the basic features
[06:45] <sjohnson> crimsun: can i just use cdrecord to burn dvd images without anything fancy?
[06:45] <Serenity-> woohoo time to burn ubuntu :)
[06:45] <Serenity-> brb
[06:45] <mrchicago> heh
[06:45] <crimsun> sjohnson: I think you want dvd+rw-tools
[06:45] <Serenity-> make bootable disk right?
[06:45] <Serenity-> lol
[06:45] <Serenity-> sorry im half tired doing this
[06:45] <crimsun> sjohnson: or the "pro" version of cdrecord, which is non-free and not in the Ubuntu repo
[06:46] <IceDragon> mgcross, is it GUI
[06:46] <nalioth> crimsun: yes, the prodvd is very hard to locate
[06:46] <mrchicago> i wrote a program that lets you increse the brightness of the monitor how can i put it up on sourceforge
[06:46] <IceDragon> command line media players are .... ehh
[06:46] <Serenity-> do i do burn image or make bootable disk
[06:46] <Serenity-> i forgot :(
[06:46] <mrchicago> mkiso
[06:46] <Serenity-> im in windows
[06:46] <Serenity-> lol
[06:47] <mrchicago> or mkisofs
[06:47] <mrchicago> oh ok
[06:47] <mrchicago> never mind
[06:47] <Serenity-> using Nero right now
[06:47] <Madpilot> Serenity-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:47] <mrchicago> sorry
[06:47] <eagleye> What does this mean...>>>eagleye@eagleye:~/Desktop$ dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[06:47] <eagleye> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[06:47] <Serenity-> Madpilot: thanks, sorry im tired :(
[06:47] <mrchicago> log in as root
[06:48] <digitize> eagleye: you have to log in a sroot
[06:48] <digitize> as root*
[06:48] <mrchicago> and sudo dpk -i
[06:48] <Madpilot> eagleye: use sudo
[06:48] <mrchicago> and sudo dpkg -i
[06:48] <Madpilot> mrchicago: sudo doesn't need login as root
[06:48] <mrchicago> ok
[06:48] <Madpilot> !root
[06:48] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:48] <IceDragon> I still have not gotten a straight answer for installing .tgz files
[06:48] <mrchicago> either way itll work
[06:48] <eagleye> umm, you mean type sudo
[06:48] <Agrajag> IceDragon: that's because there's no one way to do that
[06:48] <nalioth> IceDragon: unarchive them, read the documentation inside and proceed
[06:48] <IceDragon> oh
[06:49] <nalioth> !tell IceDragon about cli
[06:49] <Madpilot> mrchicago: except there's no root by default in Ubuntu...
[06:49] <mrchicago> tar zxvf yada.gz.tgz
[06:49] <IceDragon> so I just put them in the corresponding folders
[06:49] <Agrajag> is it a binary? source tarball? with or without autoconf?
[06:49] <IceDragon> I can untar fine
[06:49] <mrchicago> then ./configure
[06:49] <nalioth> IceDragon: there are many things inside a tgz
[06:49] <mrchicago> make make install
[06:49] <Madpilot> eagleye: what are you trying to install via dpkg?
[06:49] <nalioth> no make install
[06:49] <IceDragon> so when using the tar command, where does the file need to be?
[06:49] <mrchicago> make && make install
[06:49] <nalioth> use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[06:49] <eagleye> yahoo messenger
[06:50] <Madpilot> eagleye: use GAIM, it'll do yahoo and a bunch of other IM stuff - and it's pre-installed in Ubuntu...
[06:50] <eagleye> heres where it is..and says how to..http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[06:51] <eagleye> I tried it. dont work
[06:51] <mrchicago> is it an rpm
[06:52] <cafuego_> yahoo messenger is broken
[06:52] <cafuego_> Use gaim instead.
[06:52] <Serenity-> use Gaim
[06:52] <Serenity-> its a nice program :)
[06:52] <mgcross> IceDragon: yes...it's GUI...also has more features than xmms or winamp could ever have hoped for...gives you lyrics and band info for the currecntly playing song...excellent playlist managment...too much to name
[06:52] <dabaR> use centericq
[06:52] <Madpilot> eagleye: so "sudo dpkg -i <whatever.deb>" if Gaim is really busted...
[06:53] <valtea> i wanted the KDE desktop
[06:53] <bjron> anyone got an idea why the "clear search history" option has dissapeared from the right-clicke menu in the search box of firefoxL
[06:53] <eagleye> ok, will try that, thank you, I will give it a shot..
[06:53] <bjron> L
[06:53] <bjron> ?
[06:53] <valtea> instead of Gnome
[06:53] <Serenity-> i should probably run a degrag before repartitioning the hd
[06:53] <Serenity-> lol
[06:53] <valtea> i tried to install it with synaptic
[06:53] <Chii_Chan> bah >.<  this ndiswrapper is driving me up or through the wall >.<
[06:53] <valtea> but there are so many packeges
[06:53] <Chii_Chan> not sure which
[06:53] <La_PaRCa> I think the yahoo mesenger thing is an .rpm
[06:53] <valtea> i dont know which one to chose
[06:53] <nalioth> Serenity-: only if you want to keep your data (thought you were gonna redo the whole thing)
[06:53] <dabaR> kubuntu-desktop, is the one you want.
[06:53] <Serenity-> valtea: the kde core and dependences
[06:54] <valtea> can someone tell me which one is the KDE desktop
[06:54] <dabaR> Serenity-: no, what I said.
[06:54] <valtea> only that?
[06:54] <Serenity-> okay
[06:54] <Serenity-> sorry dabaR
[06:54] <dabaR> valtea: see what it pulls along with itself.
[06:54] <Serenity-> just trying to help :(
[06:54] <dabaR> Serenity-: gimme 20./
[06:54] <Serenity-> nalioth: i just hate reinstalling windows
[06:54] <Serenity-> takes forever lol
[06:54] <spackest> so I contend that the postgres that comes with 5.04 is broken
[06:54] <nalioth> Serenity-: your choice
[06:55] <valtea> thanks alot
[06:55] <Serenity-> oh hey, with OpenOffice can you make PowerPoints?
[06:55] <dabaR> Serenity-: I know, thats cool. dont respond if you are not sure. and...learn from responses from people that are sure.
[06:55] <crimsun> Serenity-: you can make presentations, yes.
[06:55] <Serenity-> sweet
[06:55] <sjohnson> does anyone use k3b? does it burn .IMG files?
[06:55] <Serenity-> i have to make PowerPoint presentations for one of my classes :)
[06:55] <dabaR> crimsun: ya, I like that word better, I always hate when ppl use powerpoints to refer to presentations.
[06:55] <spackest> postgres?  anyone use postgres in ubuntu?
[06:55] <anethema> yeah i';d also like to know
[06:55] <anethema> can k3b do it ?
[06:56] <Serenity-> lol okay guys im going to go reinstall windows
[06:56] <eagleye> i did that sudo thing and it asked for password, then it said this>dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:56] <Serenity-> then install ubuntu
[06:56] <snausages> so do some people say, "i just powerpointed this"
[06:56] <Serenity-> wish me luck :)
[06:56] <dabaR> Serenity-: good luck.
[06:56] <Serenity-> thanks!
[06:56] <cafuego_> powerpoint is a registered trademark, you can't call it that.
[06:57] <cafuego_> Just use Impress.
[06:57] <snausages> she's reinstalling windows?
[06:57] <bonee> o need help on GDM
[06:57] <bonee> wont work anymore
[06:57] <cafuego_> snausages: Yeah, it's a 2 year old, install, probably best to reinstall the whole lot.
[06:57] <concept10> dabaR: See, thats the problem.  Microsoft has us believing there is only one way to do a task
[06:57] <snausages> whew, 2 years
[06:58] <dabaR> bonee: give it more incentives.
[06:58] <bonee> it goes to console
[06:58] <bonee> when i log oiut
[06:58] <snausages> speaking of that, i'm new to ubuntu and linux as well, but do you all find yourselves reinstalling your distro often?
[06:58] <dr_willis> snausages,  not really
[06:58] <nalioth> snausages: you should never have to reinstall again
[06:58] <cafuego_> snausages: No.
[06:58] <bonee> its not the graphic card
[06:59] <snausages> unless you screw up something irrepairable huh
[06:59] <nalioth> snausages: *nix is designed that way
[06:59] <cafuego_> snausages: My oldest linux box has been alive for 7 years.
[06:59] <bonee> BRB
[06:59] <snausages> that's nice to know
[06:59] <cafuego_> All hardware got replaced during that time, but the software didn't :-)
[06:59] <dr_willis> of course some times its just easier to  backup your HOME and reinstall. I like to test out the new installers and learn what 'defaults' some disrtos use and so forth.
[06:59] <nalioth> snausages: there are several famous boxen that have uptime of over 5 years
[06:59] <snausages> nice
[06:59] <Madpilot> eagleye: you can't use dpkg if Synaptic is also open
[06:59] <snausages> nalioth yeah but i imagine those are mostly servers
[06:59] <snausages> not home desktops
[06:59] <snausages> right?
[07:00] <cafuego_> With my /proc/uptime patch, you too cna have a 5 year uptime after recompiling teh kernel!
[07:00] <nalioth> snausages: even with a home box, you can expect never to load an install disk again
[07:00] <pepsi> whats up with the screensaver in breezy?
[07:00] <concept10> cafuego_: thats cheating!
[07:00] <snausages> i screwed up something and had to reinstall about 5 times now heheh
[07:01] <crimsun> I don't know, what is up with it?
[07:01] <snausages> i'm new though so
[07:01] <pepsi> there are 2 of them
[07:01] <crimsun> (it works for me)
[07:01] <dr_willis> of course - some times its easier to just wipe your test box when learning/breaking things. :P
[07:01] <cafuego_> concept10: I don't use it, just wrote it for someone who wanted one.
[07:01] <anethema> well its official, its near impossible to burn a .IMG file in linux. god damnit!
[07:01] <pepsi> theres a new one and i dont like it.. how can i use the other one?
[07:01] <spackest> so if I want to change from 5.04 to 5.10, can I just change my apt/sources.list and do an upgrade?
[07:01] <cafuego_> snausages: The only time I reinstalled was when going from 32bit to 64bit.
[07:01] <Madpilot> anethema: asked google yet?
[07:01] <concept10> my server:  23:51:08 up 26 days, 14:31,  1 user,  load average: 1.26, 1.25, 1.01
[07:01] <crimsun> pepsi: remove gnome-screensaver
[07:01] <anethema> extensively yes thanks Madpilot :)
[07:01] <cafuego_> spackest: Once 5.10 is released, yes. I believe it would currently fail.
[07:01] <mrchicago> did you try k3b
[07:01] <concept10> im going for the record!
[07:02] <anethema> no
[07:02] <mrchicago> i think it can read .img
[07:02] <snausages> cafuego_ you know what else my problem is? i want my box to be "clean" all the time, meaning, when i uninstall/reinstall crap, i have a feeling that some stuff is left behind and my machine is cluttered
[07:02] <snausages> so i reinstall
[07:02] <cafuego_>  15:02:10 up 190 days, 19:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.12, 0.04
[07:02] <anethema> have to install a ton of kde libs to get k3b going
[07:02] <spackest> mostly I would like a postgres that works a touch better
[07:02] <cafuego_> the production server
[07:02] <docgnome> I'm trying to make a ppp connection with ubuntu and i've figured out that wvdial and pon both send ATZ to the modem and expect a response... but for some reason my modem isn't sending that response. The modem does work however as I am using it right now... Does anyone know of a way to send commands directly to my modem in Ubuntu?
[07:02] <anethema> buuut if you say it reads .img its worth a try
[07:02] <oblib> Question: For some reason my Serial ATA drive (sda1) does not mount when fstab is used during boot -- it says it is not found. Is there a way to get it to mount after it recognizes the drive?
[07:02] <Madpilot> anethema: yeah, but it's worth it. K3B is great
[07:02] <glick> ubuntu uses xorg right?
[07:02] <mrchicago> yeah it is
[07:02] <anethema> yes glenn
[07:02] <anethema> glick,
[07:03] <docgnome> glick: aye.
[07:03] <anethema> k3b that much better than gnomebaker ?