[03:45] <fildo> ha some noob must of gone past with loud exhaust
[03:46] <fildo> n set off alarm .
[03:46] <lansing> thanx so much for everyones time  for helpin me
[03:46] <totall_6_7> Amarok is a music player? if so it seems like a lot for a music player
[03:46] <ellioTb> Volstrup, works perfect!
[03:46] <robocop> hello there
[03:46] <psusi> XMMS user here...
[03:46] <sjbrown> fyi, it was `xset`
[03:46] <totall_6_7> same here
[03:47] <avagant> I use XMMS.
[03:47] <robocop> is it possible ot get XGL/compiz up and runnin' on mepis using an ubuntu howto?
[03:47] <Volstrup> ellioTb: I know :)
[03:47] <avagant> I just found out how to skin XMMS so I'm pretty happy for myself now.
[03:47] <lansing> ya iam here iam all set now do i need ne others for playin the music i download
[03:47] <hot_wheelz> Hi does anyone here have have a MythTv box using Ubuntu 6.06.1 a Asus P5B,Asus 7300GT, Hauppauge Nova - T 500 Dual Digital PCI housed in a silverstone lc16m by any chance? - pls ping me if yes
[03:47] <avagant> I feel slick.
[03:47] <avagant> lansing: Get XMMS.
[03:47] <avagant> sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:48] <avagant> Wait you'll probably need all the gstreamer plugins for that.
[03:48] <Volstrup> ellioTb: I've used quite some time trying out different samba browsers - the perfect sollution would be some kind of merge between the way nautilus handles samba and the way smb4k handles it
[03:48] <avagant> I don't know if you've done that yet.
[03:48] <Ediehow> how do i turn on the sshd service
[03:48] <Ediehow> ?
[03:48] <avagant> Did you push back in the terminal?
[03:48] <avagant> Haha
[03:48] <TreMobyl> edgy is taking away my bzr.  :(
[03:48] <avagant> That's how I check to see if I still have sound, by pushing the backbutton when I'm in the terminal.
[03:48] <_aasics_> Ediehow, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[03:49] <_aasics_> Ediehow, as long as you have it installed, of course
[03:49] <TreMobyl> with no sane version control, no wonder the eft is edgy
[03:49] <Volstrup> and again! And it's beeping while i just stare at my screen... VERY mysterious
[03:49] <avagant> bzr?
[03:49] <avagant> Hmm.
[03:49] <TreMobyl> bazaar-ng
[03:49] <avagant> Sounds in the irc client?
[03:49] <ellioTb> Volstrup, the trick would be having a really nice way to browse/mount osx shares
[03:50] <avagant> It surprized me when I first started up gaim and heard noises.
[03:50] <chucktg> beep attack:)
[03:50] <Ediehow> how do i turn on the sshd service?
[03:50] <Volstrup> ellioTb: I know nothing about those shares - is it something similar to samba?
[03:50] <Snake> Does ubuntu plan to remove firefox in edgy?
[03:50] <_aasics_> Ediehow, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd
[03:50] <lansing> i think ive got all the gs streamers cus my sound is working
[03:50] <_aasics_> Ediehow, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[03:50] <Ediehow> _aasics_: i want it turned on permanently
[03:50] <Volstrup> my computer just keeps om beeping - very alarming!
[03:50] <ellioTb> Volstrup, i think it is if the osx servers enable windows file sharing, otherwise its something else weird
[03:51] <TreMobyl> Snake: it's not marked for un-installation
[03:51] <ellioTb> Volstrup, overheating!
[03:51] <codecaine> hey the power went out and on real quick now when I turn my pc on it says on the boot up screen doesn't even make it to the part where it ask if you want to do the bios
[03:51] <codecaine> what do you think the cause of that?
[03:51] <Snake> TreMobyl: so regardless of the crap being spread for debian and firefox, ubuntu plans to keep it?
[03:51] <Volstrup> ellioTb: I don't think so - usually it's below 35C degrees
[03:51] <codecaine> motherboard fried?
[03:52] <TreMobyl> Snake: I dunno about the plans; I'm just telling you what I'm seeing on upgrading from dapper to edgy
[03:52] <Snake> alright
[03:52] <Snake> hmmm
[03:52] <Snake> thanks
[03:52] <TreMobyl> nphthhand
[03:52] <_aasics_> Ediehow, sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/sshd /etc/rc2.d/S99sshd
[03:52] <TreMobyl> iceweasel?
[03:52] <Ediehow> on ubuntu, is sshd installed by default?  there doesn't seem to be an sshd config file
[03:53] <TreMobyl> I don't see "weasel" in apt-cache
[03:53] <Volstrup> TreMobyl: yes, the browser in future known as IceWeasel
[03:53] <Phuzion> Ediehow:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:53] <OmniD> what's the program I need to unrar things?
[03:53] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having a really weird problem with ubuntu....
[03:53] <Phuzion> !ask
[03:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:53] <Random_Transit> i have various apps starting to memory leak for no good reason
[03:53] <joao> is there a codec for wmv ??
[03:54] <ellioTb> anyone used PEAP for wireless authentication with ubuntu?
[03:54] <Volstrup> !ubotu
[03:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:54] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I am
[03:54] <joao> for ubuntu 5.10
[03:54] <ellioTb> thats what my school uses, and i have no idea
[03:54] <ellioTb> ubotu: peap
[03:54] <_aasics_> ellioTb, 802.1x PEAP
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <OmniD> !unrar > OmniD
[03:54] <ellioTb> _aasics_, yeah
[03:54] <chucktg> quit
[03:54] <Ediehow> i need to add port 23 to sshd config
[03:54] <_aasics_> ellioTb, what school?
[03:54] <TreMobyl> ellioTb: peap?
[03:54] <Ediehow> where is config file?
[03:54] <ellioTb> _aasics_, texas state university
[03:55] <ellioTb> and they use that 802.1x PEAP if you want to be on a secured network
[03:55] <_aasics_> ellioTb, my campus is the same
[03:55] <TreMobyl> ellioTb: http://www.divms.uiowa.edu/help/wireless/linux.html
[03:55] <Elephant> Ediehow, did you install the ssh server package, or did you set sshd up some other way?
[03:55] <TreMobyl> is for uiowa, but it may work for you too
[03:55] <Phuzion> Ediehow:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server, if you want to install the sshd
[03:55] <TreMobyl> we're peap as well (stupid fascist net monkeys)
[03:55] <Elephant> aptitude*
[03:56] <Phuzion> Is there anything I can use to put a small terminal into my top menubar?
[03:56] <Phuzion> Like, just one line
[03:56] <ellioTb> TreMobyl, thanx, was it that hard to setup in ubuntu?
[03:57] <TreMobyl> ellioTb: not done it yet.  I just got ubuntu installed yesterday
[03:57] <_aasics_> ellioTb, it took me a couple minutes
[03:57] <TreMobyl> it seemd to work alright in gentoo
[03:57] <_aasics_> ellioTb, yeah, I don't have much trouble with it
[03:57] <ellioTb> nice, well atleast your school lets you know how to do it for linux
[03:57] <ellioTb> mine doesn't even mention it
[03:57] <ellioTb> brb
[03:57] <_aasics_> k
[03:57] <TreMobyl> ellioTb: they don't officially support us.
[03:58] <_aasics_> TreMobyl, fascists.
[03:58] <TreMobyl> there's an Aegis client they'll maybe maybe *maybe* let you use if you beg enough
[03:59] <Ediehow> does sshd on ubuntu by default allow remote connections?
[03:59] <Ediehow> or is it firewalled to not allow?
[03:59] <sproingie> i should imagine it allows remote connections, that's what it's made for
[03:59] <TreMobyl> _aasics_: may we someday live in a world where we get some respect
[03:59] <Phuzion> Ediehow: There is no firewall built into Ubuntu by default
[03:59] <_aasics_> Ediehow, i've never had to configure it; always worked out of the box
[04:00] <AngryElf> can anyone here explain an optical port that is on (i.e. red light) but no sound recognized by the receiver?
[04:00] <Phuzion> AngryEld:  The port might be getting power, but not actually sending data
[04:00] <sproingie> my optical outputs are always lit whether they're in use or not
[04:01] <AngryElf> yea, but i somehow managed to get mine on and i'm not sure -- yet still no sound
[04:01] <AngryElf> they were off after a fresh dapper install
[04:01] <Phuzion> It's not configured properly
[04:01] <AngryElf> clearly
[04:01] <Phuzion> Is there any documentation for your sound card?
[04:02] <AngryElf> i swear last time i installed ubuntu it "just worked"
[04:02] <clearzen> I'm trying to use mdadm to look at raid arrays I have created. However it tells me No md super block found, not a md component. I know that it is in fact a raid device. Any idea what I am doing wrong?
[04:02] <avr> hello. can anyone direct me to a channel in freenode for unix programming help? thanls!
[04:02] <avr> *thanks
[04:02] <Phuzion> avr:  Possibly #unix?  Just a guess
[04:03] <avr> Phuzion: yes, i checked ##unix, there's (almost) noone there
[04:03] <Phuzion> Hmm
[04:03] <Phuzion> Not sure then
[04:03] <sproingie> try the channel for the language you're programming in
[04:03] <psusi> avr: try #unix and #C on effnet
[04:03] <Ediehow> what's best way to make hostname name permanent in ubuntu?
[04:03] <avr> sproingie, psusi: ok, will do. thanks
[04:04] <sproingie> Ediehow: /etc/hostname
[04:05] <Phuzion> !formats
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <avagant> Sweet I got the new Konversation. haha
[04:05] <sproingie> mine updated too.  security patch, eh?
[04:05] <Vendetta> for an unknown reason, i cant login to my machine (nor my regular account, nor root), ive tried 2.1.2 from http://linuxgazette.net/107/tomar.html  but without success, any suggestion so i can login back to my root account?
[04:06] <Vendetta> of course, ive direct access to machine (just beside me)
[04:06] <whyso> are there big improvements in ext4? is it safe to use it for important data yet?
[04:07] <Phuzion> whyso:  any reason that you don't like ext3?  Or are you just experimenting?
[04:07] <psusi> whyso: I don't think it actually exists yet
[04:07] <whyso> well, i was about to switch to ubuntu and heard it came out, and thought it might have new features (ability to resize partion?
[04:08] <psusi> and I believe parted can resize ext2/3
[04:08] <snoops> ext4 is out..was released a couple days ago
[04:08] <whyso> http://www.kr.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.19-rc1/2.6.19-rc1-mm1/announce.txt
[04:08] <snoops> allows for much larger size, as well as extends..which I don't know a lot about
[04:08] <Phuzion> Is there any official support on Ubuntu for fluxbox?
[04:08] <psusi> I don't think so snoops.... it was forked from ext3 in the kernel sources like a month ago, and afaik, is under very active early development
[04:09] <whyso> im sorta not an expert, anyone know if theres any big differences from ext4/3
[04:09] <ikus060> How I can do to don't load the X server at startup ??
[04:09] <avagant> media
[04:09] <avagant> hmm
[04:09] <snoops> basically, it says you're likely to not notice any difference for home users
[04:10] <Phuzion> whyso:  one huge differnce we know is this:  we know ext3 works and is stable
[04:10] <Noah0504> Has anyone had success with Edgy automatically configuring Broadcom cards?
[04:10] <whyso> ah ok
[04:10] <whyso> thanks guys ill just use 3
[04:10] <snoops> psusi..yeah that link whyso pasted..
[04:10] <Flannel> Noah0504: #ubuntu+1
[04:11] <Phuzion> Just out of curiosity, does Ubuntu have support for serial mice?
[04:11] <Phuzion> old school, 3 button serial mice
[04:11] <snoops> I mean, there are more filesystems for linux than just ext3, and 4 whyso..so you could try out others.. xfs, reiser4, reiserfs etc
[04:11] <whyso> hey, btw is there an official newbie help ubuntu channel? or one stricly not for that?
[04:11] <tritium> Phuzion: yes
[04:11] <tritium> psusi: don't hold your breath, especially after the latest news
[04:12] <shea> i can attest to xfs, been using it for 6 years now with no problems
[04:12] <Phuzion> tritium:  That's awesome, I might be using an oldschool mouse soon
[04:12] <sproingie> reiser4 has a few, uh, setbacks in its development cycle
[04:12] <whyso> hows it compare to ext
[04:12] <whyso> (xfs)
[04:12] <tritium> whyso: dangerous!
[04:12] <tritium> whyso: oh, thought you meant reiserfs
[04:12] <whyso> lol
[04:12] <shea> dunno i'm from irix-land so i never actually used ext on a workstation :)
[04:12] <whyso> reiser himself is the dangerous one :)
[04:13] <sproingie> xfs is pretty nice
[04:13] <shea> but there are interesting stories from render houses out there about ext3 vs xfs
[04:13] <shea> you have to take everything like that with a grain of salt, though
[04:13] <kdog> /echo -a irc server: | //echo -a $server
[04:13] <snoops> whyso, well, xfs is pretty well suited to very large files..dvd backups/movies..large files
[04:13] <clearzen> mdadm is not reconizing my raid devices. Is there any other programs/commands that work with raid arrays??
[04:13] <donburde> hello all... i was wondering if anyone has had the same problems as me.  runnis drake and i have a sony dvdrw, when i use blank dvd's everything is fine but if I use a double layer dvd, ubuntu recognizes it as a cdrom... any suggestions?
[04:13] <sproingie> reiser3 for zillions of small files, xfs for huge files
[04:13] <whyso> nice thats exacly what ill have alot of
[04:13] <Flannel> !tell clearzen about raid
[04:13] <sproingie> reiser4 for people who really didnt need their data anyway
[04:13] <snoops> a lot of media servers use xfs for that reason
[04:13] <whyso> it come defalut on ubun?
[04:14] <psusi> clearzen: if you built the raid with adm, then that's what you use to mess with it
[04:14] <shea> well, xfs has a few nifty features, like extents, realtime volumes, grouping of i/o ops, and good multi-process performance
[04:14] <snoops> heh, that's a bit harse sproingie
[04:14] <clearzen> i didn't build it with adm. What can I use?
[04:14] <shea> but, i can't say how it compares to filesystem x because i don't know much about any others
[04:14] <whyso> ah cool, how stable is it
[04:14] <psusi> clearzen: what DID you build it with?
[04:14] <shea> stable?
[04:14] <BinaryJay> sigh
[04:14] <whyso> data integrity
[04:15] <whyso> good right?
[04:15] <BinaryJay> sigh
[04:15] <shea> haven't had any issues, i dunno how to give you any concrete numbers though, heh
[04:15] <avagant> Sweet.
[04:15] <sproingie> i want a filesystem with snapshots
[04:15] <whyso> sorry jay im new to this whole thing :(
[04:15] <clearzen> psusi: the server I bought automaticly helped me set up the arrays. So I guess the bios of the machine.
[04:15] <psusi> you can do snapshots with any filesystem using LVM
[04:15] <sproingie> psusi: not necessarily quickly
[04:15] <ScurveyFrog> hi! quick question for anyone who knows: what is the g++ option to compile a library (.a file)?
[04:15] <DaveyJ> i'm about to install kubuntu on the box i'm currently building.. its a p4 prescott (64 bit) -- so do i get the regular x86 release or what?
[04:16] <psusi> clearzen: is it a real hardware raid or a fakeraid?  does linux see one drive, or each individual drive?  is this sata/ide or scsi?
[04:16] <shea> all filesystems are vulnerable to data loss no matter how advanced, though.
[04:16] <sproingie> ScurveyFrog: just use -o foo.a and g++ will figure it out
[04:16] <ScurveyFrog> sproingie: thanks!
[04:16] <BinaryJay> DaveyJ: I recommend everyone use the -generic kernel in ubuntu until further notice.
[04:16] <clearzen> it is real hardware and it is sata/ide
[04:16] <BinaryJay> Flame on
[04:16] <Madpilot> back - someone pinged me?
[04:16] <DaveyJ> okay :)
[04:17] <Phuzion> Haha, I have to reboot now so I can use my 17 year old serial mouse, bbl
[04:17] <psusi> clearzen: does linux see each individual drive in the array?  or just not see it at all?
[04:17] <DaveyJ> not even that 686 kernel?
[04:17] <whyso> thanx for help shea
[04:17] <dsnyders> HI all.  Is there a ls command to list only the directories, like dir /a:d does  in DOS?
[04:17] <BinaryJay> DaveyJ: The generic kernel IS the 686 kernel, I believe.  At least in Edgy it is.
[04:17] <clearzen> psusi: It sees one big drive for both arrays. One is raid 0 (4 drives) the other is raid 3
[04:17] <psusi> dsnyders: man ls
[04:17] <shea> whyso, np.  my advice though -- do a bit of your own research too, then make your decision :)
[04:18] <psusi> clearzen: ahh, good.... then what's the problem?
[04:18] <psusi> and what do you mean raid3?  there's no such animal?
[04:18] <clearzen> They are both the same size. without labels. So i don't know which array is raid 0 and which is raid 3 ><
[04:18] <BinaryJay> There is a discussion somewhere recent in the ubuntu edgy forums about 64-bit support you can look up.
[04:19] <whyso> would using a 5gb swap help much? i have enough space
[04:19] <effie_jayx> has anyone gotten SVG to work on firefox?
[04:19] <tritium> whyso: nope
[04:19] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[04:19] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, most SVG works OK; some parts still aren't supported
[04:19] <tritium> whyso: anything beyond 2GB is overkill
[04:20] <dsnyders> psusi, man ls doesn't seem to say so
[04:20] <whyso> k
[04:20] <effie_jayx> Madpilot, could you try a URL to see if it works on your box?
[04:20] <psusi> clearzen: there are raid 0, 1, 4 ( crap, not used ), 5, and 6.... not sure what you mean by raid 3... but the bios should give some indication as to which volume is the first drive and which is the second...
[04:20] <Ediehow> ok, i think ubuntu firewall may be on
[04:20] <BinaryJay> Q:  Why on earth is my apache2 insisting on serving out from /htdocs, when this folder (off root) is NOT in any of my configuration files...
[04:21] <El_Lapi-Zero> Hello!
[04:21] <Ediehow> cuz i can't ssh from remote host to it
[04:21] <Ediehow> and
[04:21] <Ediehow> i can't ftp to it
[04:21] <tritium> Ediehow: did you install the ssh server?
[04:21] <BinaryJay> Edie, sudo apt-get install firestarter
[04:21] <Ediehow> Trinisan: ssh localhost works
[04:21] <clearzen> psusi: The second array has two drives that appear as one partition and a single drive for backup information.
[04:21] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, sure - what is it?
[04:21] <BinaryJay> Use firestarter to add an exception to port 22
[04:21] <sproingie> dsnyders: find . -type d -maxdepth 1
[04:21] <Ediehow> BinaryJay: so does that mean firewall is on
[04:22] <Ediehow> ?
[04:22] <effie_jayx> Madpilot,  http://www.tomjewett.com/dbdesign/dbdesign.php?page=intro.html&imgsize=medium
[04:22] <Ediehow> i mean, the router has dmz set up
[04:22] <El_Lapi-Zero> Alguien puede darme una ayuda con mi grub
[04:22] <BinaryJay> if you're accessing through the internet, then yes
[04:22] <psusi> clearzen: the first array should be /dev/sda
[04:22] <effie_jayx> El_Lapi-Zero,  que paso con tu grub
[04:22] <BinaryJay> Ediehow:  try ssh you@localhost
[04:22] <Ediehow> ok, so once firestarter is installed, what is necessary?
[04:22] <tritium> Ediehow: did you install the ssh server?  There is no firewall setup by default.
[04:22] <ozzy> Ediehow Not really. You need config the firestarter for your own use.
[04:22] <tritium> !es
[04:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:22] <El_Lapi-Zero> effie_jayx:
 Ediehow: did you install the ssh server?  There is no firewall setup by default.
[04:22] <Ediehow> <-- ferger has quit ("Leaving")
[04:22] <Ediehow> ok, so is there firewall or not?
[04:23] <effie_jayx> El_Lapi-Zero,  let's go to that channel #ubuntu-es
[04:23] <psusi> dsnyders: try find
[04:23] <Ediehow> ssh IP times out
[04:23] <ozzy> Ediehow Yes.
[04:23] <BinaryJay> If you can "ssh you@localhost" or "ssh you@Ubuntu" but you can't ssh over the internet then you need to open port 22.
[04:23] <dream> hi all
[04:23] <tritium> Ediehow: not unless you configure it.  Please answer my question about installing ssh server.
[04:23] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, it looks fine in both FF & Opera 9.02 - which part is supposed to be SVG?
[04:23] <Ediehow> i told you ssh was installed
[04:23] <Ediehow> server
[04:23] <Ediehow> that's why i can do ssh localhost
[04:23] <BinaryJay> He wants to know, did you apt-get install ssh
[04:23] <Ediehow> yes
[04:23] <dream> anyone know when edgy eft would be release the stable version?
[04:23] <Ediehow> yes
[04:23] <effie_jayx> Madpilot,  all the UML diagrams on the site
[04:23] <Ediehow> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:23] <BinaryJay> if you can ssh localhost but not over the internet then install firestarter and add port 22 as an incoming exception
[04:23] <effie_jayx> Madpilot,  I can't see them on Firefox...
[04:23] <BinaryJay> then you'll be fine
[04:23] <tritium> Ediehow: ah, you told Tristan, not me.
[04:23] <tritium> Didn't see that.
[04:24] <Ediehow> oh sorry
[04:24] <clearzen> psusi: I thought so but I wanted to make sure. I"m going to backup the data and put in bigger hdd's. So I wanted to make sure I backedup the right info. Thank you for your help.
[04:24] <psusi> Ediehow: unless you set up a firewall, there isn't one... maybe your router or ISP is blocking incoming connections?
[04:24] <effie_jayx> Madpilot,  http://www.tomjewett.com/dbdesign/dbdesign.php?page=class.php&imgsize=medium
[04:24] <dream> who knows when ubuntu 6.10  would be release the stable version? not the beta version?
[04:24] <ozzy> dream Well, very soon we told. Checkout at www.ubuntu.com
[04:24] <MrKeuner> Which one is official?: "Ubuntu Linux" or "Ubuntu GNU/Linux"
[04:24] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, neither can I, in either FF or Opera. I think the trouble is that "Adobe SVG" does not equal "Real SVG as understood by newer browsers"
[04:24] <basilf> How can I get root access besides sudo su I want ot copy a dir to a root dir and I can't
[04:24] <Ediehow> ok, so after i install firestarter, what is necessary(i am telling somoene this over the phone)  do they add those ports for firestarter?
[04:24] <Ediehow> and how do they add more ports to sshd_config in ubuntu?
[04:24] <Madpilot> basilf, just use sudo mv
[04:24] <Ediehow> 23, 20
[04:24] <BinaryJay> psusi:  There is a "firewall", firestarter is not a firewall in itself it just sets up the ipchains
[04:24] <ozzy> dream or better, we think.
[04:24] <Ediehow> err at least 23
[04:25] <dream> ozzloy: thanks :) , in a week ?
[04:25] <BinaryJay> Ubuntu doesn't need to set any restrictive ipchains by default (hence missing any firewall configuration UI) because it does not by default expose any external services.
[04:25] <psusi> BinaryJay: true
[04:25] <Ediehow> BinaryJay: ok, with firestarter, what is necessary?
[04:25] <basilf> Is there like a quick reference guide for ubuntu I am used to SUSE
[04:25] <ricanelite> Hello all, I have a question for you!
[04:25] <psusi> Ediehow: undo what you did to set it up in the first place
[04:25] <Ediehow> ok, where is sshd_config? i want sshd running on 22 and 23
[04:26] <ozzy> dream possibly
[04:26] <ricanelite> Why when I head over to change my Screen Resolution there is no option for me
[04:26] <Ediehow> psusi: ? all i did was sudo apt-get install sshd
[04:26] <jrib> basilf: help.ubuntu.com has a starter guide
[04:26] <dream> ozzloy: thanks ozzy :)
[04:26] <psusi> Ediehow: I was referign to firestarter
[04:26] <BinaryJay> In firestarter, go to the policy tab, where it says allow service, add a rule, for port 22, for everyone
[04:26] <ricanelite> I'm running Ubuntu Linux for Apple Mac
[04:26] <BinaryJay> apply rule
[04:26] <ozzy> dream you're welcome
[04:26] <BinaryJay> done
[04:26] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, I'd email the author of that website, and ask him to redo his diagrams in something other than Adobe SVG.. note that according to Adobe's own SVG Plugin page, they're discontinuing support for it in Jan 1 2007
[04:26] <Ediehow> ok BinaryJay
[04:26] <oidia> how do i reload glftpd.conf?
[04:26] <ricanelite> anyone could help me please!
[04:26] <tritium> basilf: also, see System->Help for lots of docs too
[04:26] <Ediehow> hold sec
[04:26] <psusi> Ediehow: if you never used firestarter to add restrictions, then there aren't any by default
[04:27] <Ediehow> so does that mean i still need to open port 22 on the machine itself?
[04:27] <BinaryJay> First of all, after you have firestarter running, try to access your ssh server and you should see it pick up an event that says your request was blocked
[04:27] <basilf> FRom what I can see ubuntu is 100x better than SUSE even after a year printing was a prayer in ubuntu it just works
[04:27] <oidia> i cant find where to restart glftpf, ?
[04:27] <BinaryJay> I think we're all assuming that you're running firestarter on the machine you want to serve ssh from here.
[04:27] <Ediehow> firestarter needs to be running when that happens, right?
[04:27] <BinaryJay> firestarter only needs to be run to change your policy
[04:27] <BinaryJay> it does not need to be running after that
[04:28] <AngryElf> how can I reset my alsa mixe settings to defalt?
[04:28] <ozzy> Ediehow Well, it depends. If you need more security or your policy is going to be relate for some more restricted... then, yes.
[04:28] <bimberi> ubotu tell ricanelite about fixres
[04:28] <BinaryJay> It's really braindead simple to open port 22 using firestarter
[04:29] <Ediehow> ok
[04:29] <Ediehow> waiting for the guy to call me back
[04:29] <Flannel> BinaryJay: er, you don't need to
[04:29] <basilf> However can't get wine to work there is no debian install for it I like MIRC and used under wine can you help
[04:30] <Flannel> basilf: wine is in the repositories
[04:30] <BinaryJay> but have fun setting up your ssh key pairs on your own hehe
[04:30] <Ediehow> i know hwo to do all that
[04:30] <basilf> I included the link for it but nothing was installed
[04:30] <mattman> anyone--i'm a total newbie to both IRC and Ubuntu---I've downloaded the desktop CD and it won't work on my Dell dimension L667...it starts and says : Loading browser, then it disappears and never restarts...can anyone help?
[04:31] <man_id_unknown> Does Linux support batch files?
[04:31] <BinaryJay> man_id_unknown: ... change the word batch file to shell script then yes.
[04:31] <Sir_Brizz> no
[04:31] <effie_jayx> Hey guys... I have two harddrives... I installed Ubuntu and later I installed windows...
[04:31] <man_id_unknown> BinaryJay: How do I create one to execute the comman "fbc construct.bas -w 1" ?
[04:31] <effie_jayx> the installation erased the mbr and I tried to fix it with the live cd
[04:32] <basilf> What is the depository link mine might be wrong
[04:32] <effie_jayx> and I thought it did  but now grub doesn't boot eigther of them
[04:32] <physicsnick> dear #ubuntu, i accidentally deleted /etc/inetd.conf
[04:32] <BinaryJay> man_id_unknown:  create a file, put #!/bin/bash
[04:32] <physicsnick> is this a terribly important file? is there a way to undelete it? can someone with kubuntu pastebin theirs for me?
[04:33] <sureshot> hey all i have a usb 2.0 to sata adapter here.. i was wondering how do scan the usb devices to see if it is even seen then how do i format it and such
[04:33] <BinaryJay> then stick the command under it, run it with sh yourfile
[04:33] <ACETACE> quick question... console shell problem... i setup my ubuntu console shell color nicely so everything fit... when i ssh to my school server (yes i'm still in university.... struggleing to complete my degree) all the sudden i realized the color does not work so well anymore.... what should i do? is there setting on school/home i need to enforce?
[04:33] <bawnpa> it not terribly important if you're not relying on inetd
[04:33] <mattman> Hello...am i being rude to interrupt? is there another channel I should find? can anyone help? - - - - - - - - --:29]  <mattman> anyone--i'm a total newbie to both IRC and Ubuntu---I've downloaded the desktop CD and it won't work on my Dell dimension L667...it starts and says : Loading browser, then it disappears and never restarts...can anyone help?
[04:33] <BinaryJay> sureshot use "lsmod"
[04:33] <man_id_unknown> BinaryJay: Yes, let me try. Thank you.
[04:33] <sureshot> thanks
[04:33] <BinaryJay> actually...
[04:33] <effie_jayx> A master in IDE 1 y IDE 2 .. THE IDE 1 is the hda k  Win2 .. y el IDE 2 is  the hdc k / linux ..
[04:34] <effie_jayx> no luck booting any of them :(
[04:34] <ACETACE> mattman, does the live cd work on your computer?
[04:34] <mOrO^> Flannel : YO! I have ONE hard drive, with a C and D drive... can I just install Ub on the letter I want? And if I can, how is boot up handled?
[04:34] <mattman> ACETACE - it starts and then stops...it won't get past the splash screen that says, "browser loding" so...no it doesn't
[04:34] <ACETACE> mattman, i'm new to ubuntu as well... just a suggestion >_< hope it will help
[04:35] <ACETACE> mattman, i was fortunate enough for ubuntu to install automatically on my computer >_<.... hope it will hlep
[04:35] <bawnpa> physicsnick,  my inetd.conf is empty, inetd.conf will be different for everyone based on if they are using it to manage their sockets or not
[04:35] <mOrO^> ACETACE; give ya twenty bucks for that computer :)
[04:35] <basilf> So anyone have the proper link to install wine?
[04:36] <BinaryJay> lsmod | grep usb,   it'll show that you have the usb modules loaded but I'm actually not sure how to scan the usb bus... anybody else?
[04:36] <physicsnick> bawnpa, i see, that's a relief thanks
[04:36] <sureshot> i dont think my usb is working at all how do i tell is lsmod the only way i did not see any refference there
[04:36] <physicsnick> now i have another question
[04:36] <BinaryJay> sureshot: check lsmod | grep usb
[04:36] <physicsnick> i set up svnserve in xinetd, but it doesn't work
[04:36] <Ediehow> how do you run firestarter once it is installed?
[04:36] <physicsnick> i followed a variety of different tutorials, they all say the same and none of them work
[04:36] <BinaryJay> sureshot: you should see modules loaded for usbhid, usb_storage, and the most important usbcore loaded
[04:36] <physicsnick> Ediehow, gksudo firestarter
[04:36] <Ediehow> sudo firestarter?
[04:37] <sureshot> thanks
[04:37] <Ediehow> ok, they are running firestarter
[04:37] <physicsnick> does anyone else have snvserve set up to boot in xinetd?
[04:37] <BinaryJay> Ediehow: Firestarter will be placed in your gnome System menu -> Administration
[04:37] <babo> where's the little desktop widget that allows me to enter in various characters that aren't on my keyboard >
[04:37] <babo> ?
[04:37] <bimberi> mattman: Is there is a boot menu option for "Check CD for defects"?  If so give that a try
[04:37] <BinaryJay> sureshot:  if usbcore is not showing up in your lsmod list, try doing a modprobe usbcore
[04:37] <_aasics_> babo, Applications/Accessories/CharacterMap
[04:38] <bawnpa> basilf, PM
[04:38] <ACETACE> mOrO^: it was a computer of older model... so i guess it worked well without having to get new linux drivers and stuff, i think that's where most people had problems on lol...
[04:38] <babo> _aasics_, thanks ...
[04:38] <Ediehow> they are running firestarter setup now, and i am trying to ssh in, but they are getting no prompt
[04:38] <ACETACE> anybody have any idea on my console color problem? or should i advertise it again?
[04:38] <basilf> PM, what?
[04:38] <sureshot> ok i see usbcor usb_storage and scsi_mod but the device is not listed i bet this think is going to be a stinker to work in linux
[04:38] <mOrO^> ACETACE: heheh, Im downloading this thing and gonna see if I can install it.
[04:38] <_aasics_> babo, or, on the Gnome-Panel, right click; add to panel; Utilities/Character Pallete
[04:38] <Mahdi_> anybody knows how to make apache2 show index.php and index.htm when they are present on a visited dir automatically?
[04:39] <sureshot> ok it is a new drive most likely not even partition how do i mount it and how do i partition and format it
[04:39] <babo> _assics_: I can't find the euro on it ...
[04:39] <_aasics_> babo, which one did you end up using?
[04:39] <BinaryJay> exit
[04:39] <BinaryJay> whoops
[04:39] <Ediehow> where is the sshd config file so that i can have it run on port 23 as well?
[04:39] <Ediehow> BinaryJay: they are prompted for ftp but not ssh
[04:39] <babo> _assics_: character map. I'm looking in Latin
[04:40] <mOrO^> Can I just install this OS on a hard drive that has a c and d . And if I can ..how is booting up handled?
[04:40] <bawnpa> <IfModule mod_dir.c>  DirectoryIndex index.php index.htm </IfModule>
[04:40] <ACETACE> quick question... console shell problem... i setup my ubuntu console shell color nicely so everything fit... when i ssh to my school server (yes i'm still in university.... struggleing to complete my degree) all the sudden i realized the color does not work so well anymore.... what should i do? is there setting on school/home i need to enforce?
[04:40] <BinaryJay> Ediehow: I don't know what they're expecting to be prompted about, in the events tab if the firewall on the system is preventing you from connecting it will show an event and what port is being blocked by you.
[04:40] <mattman> bimberi  - thanks, but i'm not even sure what you're asking...that's how new I am at this...should it give me 'boot options'? when?
[04:40] <BinaryJay> blocked TO you
[04:40] <tritium> mOrO^: yes, you can install it on different drives, or even just separate partitions.  The bootloader will help you at boot choose with OS to boot into.
[04:40] <Ediehow> BinaryJay: ok, theya re prompted when i try to ftp in, but not ssh in
[04:40] <_aasics_> babo, Use the Search function
[04:40] <Ediehow> so where is the sshd config file so i can tell it to also run on port 21 and 23
[04:41] <_aasics_> babo, (Ctrl+F)
[04:41] <tritium> Ediehow: should be under /etc/ somewere
[04:41] <mOrO^> tritium: you make it sound easy. :)
[04:41] <tritium> somewhere, even
[04:41] <tritium> mOrO^: the installer does make it quite easy
[04:41] <ellioTb> _aasics_, hey, what do you use as a GUI for wpasupplicants
[04:41] <ellioTb> cause my school, they don't give you a certificate
[04:41] <_aasics_> ellioTb, wpa_gui
[04:41] <Ediehow> sshd_config, right?
[04:41] <ellioTb> i think you download it
[04:41] <babo> _assics_: aha ... cheers dude ... :->
[04:41] <mOrO^> tritium: ok, Im downloading now...anything else I should know before embarking?
[04:42] <_aasics_> babo, no problem
[04:42] <babo> :-)
[04:42] <ellioTb> _aasics_, that gives me some ping error, and doesn't show anything, kinda hangs
[04:42] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I don't use the gui to configure it though
[04:42] <ellioTb> _aasics_, do i need to start the supplicant first?
[04:42] <_aasics_> ellioTb, i just use it to monitor the connection
[04:42] <mOrO^> tritium: I do know what equipment is on this puter.
[04:42] <_aasics_> ellioTb, yes
[04:42] <tritium> mOrO^: not sure what to suggest
[04:42] <ellioTb> _aasics_, kwlan was working nice, just don't know if it will work cause i get the certificate on connect
[04:43] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I've never used kwlan
[04:43] <mOrO^> tritium: Is the installer more or less guide ya through it all?
[04:43] <_aasics_> ellioTb, how are you trying to start wpa_supplicant?
[04:43] <rbil> DirectoryIndex index.shtml index.html index.php  ... order is important
[04:43] <LOLZebra> tell me
[04:43] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i dunno how, lol
[04:43] <tritium> mOrO^: mostly
[04:43] <Ediehow> how to restart sshd in ubuntu?
[04:43] <mOrO^> tritium: Well, Im committed to this, Im gonna go for it.
[04:43] <_aasics_> ellioTb, here's mine
[04:44] <ellioTb> _aasics_, this is all i have to work with http://www.tr.txstate.edu/css/wireless/encrypted-wireless.htm
[04:44] <tritium> Ediehow: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[04:44] <ACETACE> quick question... console shell problem... i setup my ubuntu console shell color nicely so everything fit... when i ssh to my school server (yes i'm still in university.... struggleing to complete my degree) all the sudden i realized the color does not work so well anymore.... is this a configuration on my local machine console or configuration on my school console? what should i do?
[04:44] <ellioTb> ACETACE, i dunno, but i am still in college too :P
[04:45] <tritium> ACETACE: did you log off the university machine?
[04:45] <_aasics_> ellioTb, wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -Dwext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf &
[04:45] <_aasics_> ellioTb, wpa_supplicant -i<interface> -D<driver> -c<configuration file>
[04:45] <tritium> ACETACE: type "reset" in your terminal window, and see if that helps (assuming you've logged off)
[04:46] <ACETACE> ellioTb and tritium, the problem is when i log onto the school server using ssh, i appear to be using a different set of colorscheme with the same background (black)
[04:46] <ajmitch> lewing: /win 21
[04:46] <e> 5
[04:46] <ajmitch> hm, wrong win
[04:46] <ellioTb> _aasics_, no idea what driver, lemme look at my config
[04:46] <ACETACE> ellioTb and tritium, i guess my question is whether if there is a method to syncronize both? or configure them to be the same?
[04:47] <_aasics_> ellioTb, if you do man wpa_supplicant, it will list available drivers
[04:47] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I used ndiswrapper for mine; and it translates to wext for wpa_supplicant
[04:47] <berto-> Hi everyone.  Has anyone gotten iFolder running on dapper?  I'm having trouble authenticating to the simias server.
[04:48] <ellioTb> _aasics_, if the school gives me the certificate on connect, will it still work?
[04:48] <man_id_unknown> how to I move a file using the terminal?
[04:48] <samuel> How do you restore Grub to the orginal configuration? I changed something now it has an error...
[04:48] <samuel> i dual boot XP/ubuntu
[04:48] <_aasics_> ellioTb, is there anyway to get the certificate from them?
[04:48] <Madpilot> man_id_unknown, "mv"
[04:49] <ellioTb> _aasics_, no, they are not linux friendly
[04:49] <_aasics_> ellioTb, can you go to your system admin and get it?
[04:49] <_aasics_> ellioTb, have you tried?
[04:49] <man_id_unknown> Madpilot: mv <here> <there> ?
[04:49] <tritium> samuel: did you save a backup before you edited it?
[04:49] <ellioTb> nah, i just now figured out i needed one
[04:49] <ACETACE> man_id_unknown, use the command "mv (source) (destination)" type "man mv" for details? does that help?
[04:49] <Madpilot> man_id_unknown, yes
[04:49] <man_id_unknown> AceTace: Yes
[04:49] <THX-1138> !grub
[04:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:49] <_aasics_> ellioTb, well, you might start a new trend;  you never know, and it never hurts to ask
[04:49] <man_id_unknown> Madpilot: Thank you ;)
[04:49] <ellioTb> i can get on the unsecured network, just the signal isn't as strong, and i dont think i can get on the network servers there
[04:49] <ellioTb> _aasics_, yeah, maybe i can get it and write a tutorial for other linux users @ school
[04:50] <ellioTb> everyone in my dept owns a mac
[04:50] <ellioTb> i roll in with my fujistu xubuntu lappy
[04:50] <samuel> yes I saved a backup
[04:50] <samuel> how do i restore from backup
[04:50] <samuel> please
[04:50] <_aasics_> ellioTb, convince them that macs (unix based) are basically the same as linux
[04:50] <tritium> samuel: copy the backup over the modified file
[04:50] <ellioTb> _aasics_, for the xp and mac tutorial, looks like you get the cer from them when you connect
[04:50] <_aasics_> ellioTb, and that you aren't the black sheep, but rather the attractive cousin everyone secretly wants to fuck
[04:50] <ellioTb> i wonder if it will work the same
[04:50] <ellioTb> lol
[04:51] <ellioTb> ROFL
[04:51] <Madpilot> _aasics_, language, thanks.
[04:51] <samuel> what is the file name?
[04:51] <ellioTb> Madpilot, it was perfect though
[04:51] <tritium> _aasics_: language!
[04:51] <_aasics_> sorry, guys
[04:52] <ellioTb> _aasics_, gotta love the people that catch you 10 hours later
[04:52] <ACETACE> tritium, i AM logged into ssh in to my school server, and i intend to do so,  i guess my question is whether if there is a method to syncronize both color scheme on my ubuntu and on school server so i do not have to change colorscheme when i'm on/off the servers? or configure them to be the same?
[04:52] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I think they were too busy laughing
[04:52] <ellioTb> haha, i was too busy thinking about my cousin
[04:52] <tritium> ACETACE: via ssh?  Only your local setting should matter.
[04:52] <_aasics_> haha
[04:52] <ellioTb> thats why it was so funny
[04:52] <MrKeuner> hi, Which one is official?: "Ubuntu Linux" or "Ubuntu GNU/Linux"
[04:52] <w30> samuel, to restore one backed up file just sudo cat backup.file > current.file  Use the right file names.
[04:52] <tritium> _aasics_, ellioTb: please stay on topic
[04:53] <ellioTb> _aasics_, so anyways, any idea whether i can receive the certificate when i connect
[04:53] <_aasics_> tritium, sorry, our cousins are just really attractive
[04:53] <tritium> samuel: cp also works
[04:53] <ellioTb> lol
[04:53] <jffry> hello! is there anybody can teach where to find the driver for creative webcam pd1100?
[04:53] <samuel> what is the file name?
[04:53] <samuel> lol
[04:53] <bushblows> does anyone in here have any exsperience in setting up synergy in ubuntu, or know of a good guide?
[04:53] <_aasics_> ellioTb, i'm not really sure
[04:53] <samuel> i followed something online to back it up I cant remember what it was called
[04:53] <tritium> samuel: you tell us.  You're the one that made the backup
[04:53] <_aasics_> ellioTb, my school is pretty friendly towards linux users
[04:53] <tristezo2k> Hi... I have a 6.06 LTS obtained from shipip. Installing on my lap a second time it hangs at 76%, 1:35 remaining... is it a known bug?
[04:53] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i guess i'll find out tomorrow when i try to connect
[04:53] <samuel> /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup
[04:53] <bushblows> nm
[04:54] <samuel> found it ..thank you
[04:54] <ACETACE> tritum, somhow when i ssh into my school server i get a darker set of color when i do "ls" and when i do "vim" i also get a darker set of colorscheme that does not fit my black background... am i doing something wrong?
[04:54] <ellioTb> _aasics_, yeah, mine hates them apparently, prolly cause all tx schools are shacked up with dell
[04:54] <tritium> ACETACE: I can't explain that.  That's odd.
[04:54] <w30> samuel, with cp watch your ownership and permissions, cp -p preserves those from the backedup file if you have that right to start with.
[04:54] <ACETACE> tritum i checked my .vimrc and find no colorscheme on too.... humm weird... anywys if i come across a solution i'll let you know thanks tritum
[04:55] <nomin> what is the command to open a link in firefox in a new tab?  I want to set a command in xchat to open links in a new tab.
[04:55] <THX-1138> Hi tritium.
[04:56] <tritium> hi THX-1138
[04:56] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i am just gonna email them a request for the certificate and see if i get lucky
[04:56] <_aasics_> ellioTb, I'm at UT Dallas
[04:56] <fuffalo> in this howto: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation it says: "Unless you're using one of the MCE edition cards, chances are you'll want to run MythTV using your remote. To do this, you'll need to Install LIRC"  - why wouldn't you install LIRC if you had an MCE Card
[04:57] <_aasics_> ellioTb, sounds like a good idea; you're probably looking for a file of "verisign.pem" but that's just a guess
[04:57] <_aasics_> ellioTb, its what my school used
[04:57] <tristezo2k> Hi... I have a 6.06 LTS obtained from shipip. Installing on my lap a second time it hangs at 76%, 1:35 remaining... is it a known bug? sorry for bothering...
[04:58] <Paulo-39> #Coroas
[04:58] <slavik> tristezo2k: I would say no ... but then I also don't know what it is doing at that stage
[04:58] <tristezo2k> slavik: thanks.
[04:58] <tritium> tristezo2k: hard to say what's causing that.  It's not a common occurence, or it would have been dealt with.
[04:59] <crimsun> tristezo2k: the symptoms read like one of several known issues, yes. Please try the updated desktop 6.06.1 LTS installer that contains numerous fixes.
[04:59] <jffry> anybody can help me find a driver for creative webcam vista?
[04:59] <ricanelite> Need Help installing Eastubuntu, I type in       dpkg -i Desktop/easyubuntu.deb
[04:59] <ricanelite>  and i get dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:59] <sureshot> how do i partition format and mount a usb drive device manager sees it
[04:59] <slavik> ricanelite: you forgot sudo :D
[04:59] <tristezo2k> crimsun: tritium thanks. I will try he new installer.
[04:59] <tritium> ricanelite: sudo dpkg -i ...
[05:00] <tritium> tristezo2k: yeah, forgot about that .1 release
[05:00] <ellioTb> _aasics_, we'll see if they know what they are doing, email sent
[05:00] <ricanelite> after I type it in       dpkg -i Desktop/easyubuntu.deb
[05:00] <ricanelite> ?
[05:00] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i visited UTD, was thinking about being a computer science major there years ago
[05:00] <tritium> ricanelite: sudo goes before all that
[05:00] <_aasics_> ellioTb, its what I am now
[05:00] <tristezo2k> Is there a way to install in text mode as in the old days? :
[05:01] <tristezo2k> Or the debian way..
[05:01] <ellioTb> _aasics_, i liked their program, but ended up going to A&M instead, then transfered to txstate
[05:01] <slavik> tristezo2k: the alternate cd
[05:01] <tritium> ellioTb, _aasics_ : again, please stay on topic
[05:01] <ellioTb> _aasics_, you know anything about getting on mac networks through linux?
[05:01] <tritium> tristezo2k: yes!  The alternate install image
[05:01] <tristezo2k> ok,I just received a single i386 live/install cd.
[05:02] <tristezo2k> at lilo promp?
[05:02] <romans5n1> not sure if this is the right place to ask, but maybe I'll get lucky: trying to play embedded video in FF<IP_ADDRESS> under Unbuntu Dapper... got mplayer installed, all the additional codecs, mpg files play embedded but wmv still pops up a save as dialog... any ideas?
[05:02] <_aasics_> tritium, we are on the topic of networking through ubuntu
[05:02] <tritium> tristezo2k: it's a separate download
[05:02] <_aasics_> tritium, we were merely comparing setups
[05:03] <_aasics_> ellioTb, no, unfortunately not;  i haven't had any experience in it
[05:03] <ellioTb> i know, like 1 sentence was a little off, we'll try harder next time michael
[05:03] <ricanelite> THANK YOU!!! TRITIUM!!!
[05:03] <tritium> ricanelite: sure :)
[05:03] <ellioTb> _aasics_, thats my next goal, since all the comps in my graphic design dept are macs, been trying for a while to read up on getting onto that network
[05:03] <tristezo2k> tritium: ok, thanks for your help. I will log the install to a remote machine, and see what is going wrong.
[05:04] <wizard> I'm looking for an open-office invoice template that's compatible with microsoft word.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[05:04] <tritium> tristezo2k: did you find the alternate install image?
[05:04] <_aasics_> ellioTb, let me know how it goes
[05:04] <tristezo2k> Have a link at hand?
[05:05] <cod> is there any way to make panel icons larger than 48 pixels?
[05:05] <tritium> tristezo2k: same page where you download the liveCD/installer
[05:06] <jffry> need help for webcam installation. is there anybody who can help me?
[05:06] <DemisM> how do I use wpa2 ?
[05:06] <tristezo2k> tritium: here I see a 6.06.1 Is this what you suggest?
[05:06] <tritium> tristezo2k: yes.
[05:07] <DemisM> is there wpa2 support for wireless?
[05:07] <tristezo2k> tritium: thanks.... seems my cd is broken, The cd test hanged :-S
[05:07] <tristezo2k> It will download this. And now, that I see I will not lend any more cds :-S
[05:07] <ellioTb> DemisM, yes i think, using wpasupplicants
[05:07] <ACETACE> tritum, i think i figured it out... in the ubuntu console current profile under colours tab platte 1-8 appears to be for ssh use only (where all the text are _not_ bolded as well).. and platte 9-16 is for local console use only (where text are bolded), i changed both plattes to be the same and solved the problem thanx again
[05:07] <ellioTb> err supplicant
[05:07] <tritium> tristezo2k: :)
[05:08] <cod> is there any way to make panel icons larger than 48 pixels?
[05:08] <tritium> ACETACE: cool, glad you figured it out
[05:08] <slavik> cod: make the panel larger ;)
[05:08] <cod> doesn't seem to work
[05:09] <DemisM> k thx :)
[05:09] <cod> um... what I should have asked, is how to make DRAWER icons bigger than 48 pixels
[05:10] <Flannel> mOrO^: You install to the partition you want, yes.  Linux doesn't quite use the same drive lettering.  And, grub handles the boot, you'll be asked to boot one or other other, etc
[05:11] <sureshot> what is a good graphical pattion software that will read usb devices
[05:11] <DemisM> after i install xserver-xorg-input-fpit  do i need to do anything or should my pen work?
[05:12] <ellioTb> anyone had any luck mounting shares from OSX into linx?
[05:13] <mistform> lol.....
[05:13] <mistform> osx
[05:14] <mistform> in my experiences with it I deemed it "CSx"
[05:14] <mistform> Crash-system
[05:14] <sureshot> what is a good graphical pattion software that will read usb devices
[05:15] <ianmacgregor> What's the diff between userdel and deluser?
[05:15] <DemisM> hmm... how do i use wpasupplicant?
[05:15] <ellioTb> install it, then get kwlan
[05:15] <mdkaneda> anyone know anything about the screensaver "
[05:15] <mdkaneda> Electric Sheep
[05:15] <mOrO^> thanks for the help!
[05:15] <O2> hello
[05:15] <BigUglyJeep> @sureshot, chek out gparted
[05:16] <O2> I am using GNOME ubuntu, could I use KDE the same time?
[05:16] <unfknblvbl> how would i rename all the *.ico files to .bmp ?
[05:16] <sureshot> i thought i had that load BigUglyJeep it did not run i will double check that thanks
[05:16] <unfknblvbl> what batch command for console would i use ?
[05:16] <mdkaneda> anywho, i installed electric sheep from the apt-get repositories and i'm having issues. its saying "unable to resolve..." the server it's trying to download the "sheep" from
[05:17] <w30> ianmacgregor, looks to me like userdel deletes the user and his home files
[05:17] <BigUglyJeep> @O2 you can install KDE and GNOME on the same system and select the session on startup
[05:17] <aswp> yo
[05:17] <ksh`> hi
[05:18] <w30> ianmacgregor, and deluser just removes a user
[05:18] <unfknblvbl> !batch
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about batch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <sureshot> guess i did not have it loaded sorry to have botherd BigUglyJeep
[05:18] <unfknblvbl> !console
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <unfknblvbl> !terminal
[05:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:18] <O2> BigUglyJeep:  how to select pls?
[05:18] <ksh`> confidential
[05:18] <mdkaneda> !electricsheep
[05:18] <ubotu> electricsheep: screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2669 kB, installed size 3376 kB
[05:18] <ianmacgregor> w30: Ahh, ok, thanks
[05:18] <TreMobyl> !xserver-xgl
[05:18] <ubotu> xserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 1584 kB, installed size 4384 kB
[05:18] <BigUglyJeep> have you already installed kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:19] <TreMobyl> !r300
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r300 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <wastrel> hello
[05:19] <TreMobyl> !bzr
[05:19] <ubotu> bzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model.
[05:20] <TreMobyl> ubotu: tell the eft to gimme it back
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell the eft to gimme it back - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Celeste> hi
[05:20] <w30> !caffeine
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about caffeine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Celeste> !kaffeine
at the Login Screen click on session and choose which one you want
[05:20] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[05:20] <Celeste> @ w30
[05:20] <TreMobyl> !flash-nonfree
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Celeste> 1flash
[05:20] <Celeste> !flash
[05:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:21] <O2> when i apt-get some software, why will they add other software such as KDExxx to the download list
[05:21] <aswp> I'll think about it
[05:21] <TreMobyl> !bugone
[05:21] <w30> Celeste, w30 needs caffeine to stay awake :=)
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <tritium> O2: they're dependencies
[05:21] <ianmacgregor> Please don't play with the bot
[05:21] <salami> Hello
[05:21] <Cycne> hey
[05:21] <Celeste> heh I see
[05:21] <Celeste> salami, do you know what Salami means in german?
[05:21] <vilefridge> quick question...  I think I know the answer, but just would like to verify.  I have Xubuntu running in a RAID0 (striping) configuration and want to shut the PC down, disconnect the SATA cables, flip the motherboard over, and oil the northbridge fan a bit.  When I reconnect the drives and power the PC on, will the RAID array be ok?  Or will the volume have to be rebuilt/lose Xubuntu or anything crazy?
[05:21] <Celeste> salami, its a famous sausage here
[05:21] <tritium> Celeste: that's nice, but not on topic
[05:22] <Celeste> tritium, so what?
[05:22] <ianmacgregor> Celeste: Take off-topic stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:22] <TreMobyl> Celeste: busy channel, so should be on-topic.  Not that I'm not hypocritical, I'm just saying
[05:22] <Celeste> okay I accept that
[05:22] <Celeste> sorry for doing it wrong
[05:22] <sooki> i keep losing sound on the system, but works find in cedega, i think it's the limitation on oss, there a way to see what's using the single oss channel thing?
[05:23] <TreMobyl> sooki: lsof might work
[05:23] <mistform> vilefridge, I would imagine as long as you reconnect everything properly, it would automatically configure itself to the same old
[05:23] <mistform> so I don't see it as being a problem
[05:23] <tahorg> sooki: sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[05:23] <vilefridge> mistform: thanks :)
[05:24] <sooki> reports nothing? :P
[05:24] <TreMobyl> sooki: then nothing is reading /dev/dsp
[05:24] <TreMobyl> sooki: you might also 'sudo lsof | grep dsp' in case of multi dsp devices
[05:24] <sooki> great, so it's more of an issue than i thought :P
[05:24] <Dravas> Hey does anyone know of that awesome plugin for Windows Explorer that allows you to veiw EXt3 partitions
[05:24] <Dravas> I had it before
[05:24] <Dravas> but I forgot
[05:25] <TreMobyl> s/is reading/has open/
[05:25] <TreMobyl> possible that cedega is using alsa
[05:25] <w30> I can't get my remote print server to know it is finished a print job or tell my spool that it is finished printing. I have to cancel the print job to get the printer to go back to ready. Can anyone give me a tip or two?
[05:25] <sooki> nothin on that, either :P
[05:25] <TreMobyl> iirc, the newer version uses it by default, but I could well be wrong
[05:25] <mistform> vilefridge, the worst case scenario is for you to reconfigure it
[05:25] <lansing> how come my nicotine is downloadin so slow
[05:25] <sureshot> what is that kill command that turns your curser into a skull
[05:25] <Cycne> ?
[05:25] <moreon> sureshot: xkill ?
[05:25] <ianmacgregor> sureshot: xkill
[05:25] <sooki> would that cause problems with the system sounds?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Dravas,  google for 'windows ext2' and its like the first hit.. ext2 ifs for windows
[05:26] <sureshot> thanks forgot ianmacgregor
[05:26] <ianmacgregor> sureshot: You're welcome :)
[05:26] <grok> Can anyone tell me the what the only essential parts of a linux distro are? By that I mean what, besides the kernel, would i need to have a working OS?
[05:26] <vilefridge> mistform: reconfiguring it would incur a rebuild would it not?   I think you're right though.. disconnecting and reconnecting the drives shouldn't be a prob, as long as the system is in an off state.
[05:26] <TreMobyl> we need ubuntu stores like apple stores where you can bring your computer in for help
[05:26] <Dr_willis> grok,  a program.. like busybox to do the rest of the interface :) and thats about it.
[05:27] <TreMobyl> sooki: problems, no, but would explain (if everything else is configged to use oss which is broken but cedega is using alsa)
[05:27] <grok> Dr_willis: so i could just have the kernel and say, apt-get, and it would work (assuming i could get the network set up)
[05:27] <TreMobyl> seems like an unlikely scenario, though
[05:27] <tarelerulz> I updated my reporitories and I still can't get mplayer
[05:27] <Dr_willis> grok,  not likely.. apt-get is rather complex.
[05:27] <tarelerulz> anyone else have this happen to them
[05:27] <Dr_willis> grok,  and getting the network setuo would be more 'parts' :)
[05:27] <sooki> well the thing is that i had it working fine, and i get back from watching tv and i notice i have no sound :P
[05:28] <mistform> vilefridge, I'm not a linux expert, and I have never run RAID before (I'm using laptop) but as long as nothing is swapped out, then you shouldn't haev to worry
[05:28] <O2> coud I use KAddressBook in GNOME ?
[05:28] <mistform> but you may need a 2nd opinion lol
[05:28] <TreMobyl> sooki: is strange.  This is why an ubuntu store would be useful.  :)
[05:28] <ianmacgregor> O2: yes
[05:28] <grok> Dr_willis: lol well thank you, that's all i needed to know. I htink i might try it, simply to expand my linux knowledge
[05:28] <Dr_willis> grok,  go read up on 'busybox'
[05:28] <ianmacgregor> O2: In fact, there aren't many kde apps you can't use in gnome and vice-versa
[05:28] <Dr_willis> kernel+busybox = smallest systems  ive seen
[05:28] <O2> ianmacgregor:  really?
[05:28] <grok> Dr_willis: ok. thank you
[05:29] <TreMobyl> grok: you may also poke at "Linux From Scratch."  Not used it, but may be informative for you.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> I mixx and match kde + gnome all day long
[05:29] <vilefridge> mistform: RAID is picky at times.  In RAID1, a rebuild would occur if you disconnect either of the drives in the RAID volume.  I'm hoping RAID0 is different
[05:29] <fr33mind> Is ubuntu able to read UFS ?  (SCO file system)
[05:29] <tritium> fr33mind: yes
[05:29] <TreMobyl> sooki: good luck.  I need to hit the hay
[05:29] <grok> TreMobyl: i've had a look at that, but i haven't read it too in-depth.
[05:29] <wastrel> there does appear to be a UFS module in the kernel
[05:30] <fr33mind> I'm not sure SCO use UFS... but I need to read an SCO drive (v.5) from a live Ubuntu CD...
[05:30] <sooki> thanks
[05:30] <wastrel> i dunno about the livecd
[05:30] <fr33mind> So I ask before trying ;)
[05:30] <O2> ianmacgregor:  you mean apps on ubuntu can run both in kde and gnome, apps don't care about kde and gnome, right?
[05:30] <w30> grok, that question begs another? Does the OS have to do anything? besides boot?
[05:30] <sooki> the only game i've ran on it today was using oss
[05:31] <TreMobyl> sooki: it's possible that things were trying to use esd and it died, or something other that's weird.  I cannot know without digging deeper, and my brain is busy shutting down.  :(
[05:31] <ArrenLex> O2: applications are built on toolkits. As long as you have gtk libraries installed, you can run gtk apps on a qt system just fine. The desktop environment doesn't matter; it is itself a big application built on a toolkit.
[05:31] <grok> w30: well i was going to try to dabble with setting up a bare-bones OS, with just the stuff i wanted, and wondered if there were any more essentials (other than the kernel) that i would need. it's purely for fun
[05:32] <sooki> i'll figure it out, if not i'll just go back to coding and ask tomorrow :P
[05:32] <sooki> thanks though
[05:33] <O2> As I saw many apps such as  Kxxxx ,  GNOxxxx,  then I guesss they can only run on KDE, or GNOME
[05:33] <Boelcke> O2: another way of saying it would be, if you've got the KDE and Gnome stuff installed, you can run applications specific to one of them in either.
[05:34] <Madpilot> O2, no, Gnome apps can run on KDE, and vice versa. They'll just need to install all their depends & libs too
[05:34] <ArrenLex> O2: that's not true. It's just typical for applications built on the toolkit to use names corresponding to their desktop environments. As long as you have qt and some necessary libs installed, you can run k* fine.
[05:34] <O2> you mean the can run in both kde and gnome, right?
[05:34] <Boelcke> O2, for example, I use the GIMP in gnome, where it's native, yet I like Kdigicam for managing my photos.  It works just fine under gnome (though I've got all the kde stuff installed too)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> O2,  linux is all about layers :) X is a layer.. kde and gnome are layers on top of X.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> O2,  you can run konsole, and gnome-terminal both at the same time.
[05:34] <Boelcke> O2: so, if you didn't have the KDE stuff installed, you would NOT be able to run a K-application in gnome.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> O2,  you can run konquer as the file manager and drag/drop stuff into gnome-terminal as well.
[05:34] <ArrenLex> O2: I run firefox (gtk) and gimp(gtk) but use KDE(qt), for example.
[05:35] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure the hardware
[05:35] <Boelcke> ArrenLex, what's qt?
[05:35] <ArrenLex> O2: I'm just going to say your name 'cause it's the "in" thing.
[05:35] <ArrenLex> Qt toolkit is the graphics toolkit KDE is based on. Like gtk for gnome. Look at wikipedia if you want more.
[05:35] <O2> oh, oh, oh..................I am confused...........'
[05:35] <Boelcke> With all this O2 in the air, please, no lighting any matches!
[05:35] <DemisM> hmmm... how do i set up wpa2 on fresh install of dapper ubuntu?
[05:35] <ArrenLex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28toolkit%29
[05:35] <amicrawle> i got a phillips tv tuner card
[05:36] <amicrawle> i can hear sound no video
[05:36] <O2> ArrenLex:  thank you!  my name is oxygen
[05:36] <Dr_willis> 02 dont worry about it.. just DO it. :P and
[05:36] <Madpilot> O2, bottom line is, you can run any linux app on any linux desktop, pretty much.
[05:36] <sandy16> hi there
[05:36] <w30> grok, I see....
[05:36] <JavaDeveloper> Hi, I would like to know where do I set the default path for system? .bashrc is for my profile and what about root?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> JavaDeveloper,  the root user has a /root/.bashrc
[05:37] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure
[05:37] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure
[05:37] <JavaDeveloper> Dr_willis: thanks...
[05:37] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure
[05:37] <amicrawle> what do i do for a probe and configure
[05:37] <TreMobyl> JavaDeveloper: for the whole system is /etc/profile
[05:37] <sandy16> can any body help me to configure my serial mouse?
[05:37] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: /etc/bash.bashrc for system-wide config
[05:37] <JavaDeveloper> TreMobyl: that's what I really wanna know
[05:37] <TreMobyl> and now I *really* need to go to bed.  :)
[05:37] <ArrenLex> !repeat > amicrawle
[05:37] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: so...should I go to /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc?
[05:38] <O2> I can run KDE based and GNOME based apps under KDE or GNOME, as long as the apps's libs is installed
[05:38] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: even if you look at /etc/profile, you'll end up editing /etc/bash.bashrc
[05:38] <ArrenLex> TreMobyl: isn't the $PATH in /etc/environment?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> O2,  bingo.. gold star.
[05:38] <effie_jayx> a cool app that was originally for KDE and it works OK on Gnome is Amarok
[05:39] <Madpilot> O2, exactly - and Synaptic/apt-get is intelligent enough to install those extra libraries if they aren't already there
[05:39] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: okay...I just want to set $JAVA_HOME for system-wide environment, so I should go to /etc/bash.bashrc right?
[05:39] <w30> grok, maybe you could make an install that would be like that hand in a box that came out and shut of the on switch and stopped. When you flipped the on swith again the hand would come out again.
[05:39] <O2> KDE & GNOME is some libs for apps, right?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> O2,  a bit more then that..
[05:39] <carl_> Hey guys... I need a hand... I'm trying to run partypokers java in-browser version of their poker client... but it doesn't seem to work, what packages are required for running java software like this?
[05:39] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: well, there may be a config file for the java package that might be a more appropriate place.
[05:39] <ArrenLex> No. KDE&GNOME are desktop environments. i.e., libraries + a bunch of stuff to run on top of them to interact with the user.
[05:39] <grok> w30: lmao whaa??
[05:40] <ArrenLex> !java
[05:40] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:40] <O2> kde & gnome include a "desktop"(app) and some libs !
[05:40] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: I don't like update-alternative that messes up my Java environment since I need multiple environments coexisting for my development
[05:41] <ArrenLex> O2: yes! :)
[05:41] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: okay, then do as you planned above
[05:41] <ArrenLex> tritium: aren't your variables supposed to go in /etc/environment?
[05:42] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: okay..ic ic....but if I copy my jdk there, the permission is my own and group as well, is it a better idea to put a Java group there and setup the group permission for Java group?
[05:42] <O2> so, if an app uses KDE lib, it will have KDE styles even I am in GNOME desktop env?
[05:42] <Karnex420> I can't get my mic or line in working.  I haven't been able to play my gibson for days.  Anyone with a thread of direction?
[05:42] <tritium> ArrenLex: yes, that is a good place, but he was asking for the system-wide bashrc, and it can be used.
[05:42] <ArrenLex> O2: it will have *qt* styles, and KDE itself will also use qt styles.
[05:42] <ArrenLex> O2: but yes.
[05:42] <vilefridge> is GRUB needed at all if I just have Ubuntu installed, no other OS's to boot from?
[05:43] <O2> KDE is qt style,  then what style is GNOME?
[05:43] <tritium> vilefridge: yes, you need a bootloader
[05:43] <ArrenLex> vilefridge: yes. You need something to tell the computer to boot ubuntu.
[05:43] <ArrenLex> O2: gtk style.
[05:43] <vilefridge> tritium, ArrenLex: thanks :)
[05:43] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: how do I add an user to a group?
[05:44] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: with the adduser command, or via the gui tool
[05:44] <O2> ArrenLex:  oh, I see now, thought not completely.  But how could I set it to KDE when booting ubuntu?
[05:44] <ArrenLex> JavaDeveloper: adduser user group =  Add an existing user to an existing group
[05:44] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: thank you very much
[05:44] <Lard-O-Lad> !schedule
[05:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:44] <ArrenLex> O2: with your display manager.
[05:45] <O2> ArrenLex:  where?
[05:45] <tritium> O2: there is a place to choose the session
[05:45] <ArrenLex> O2: what display manager are you using?
[05:45] <O2>  I don't know
[05:45] <ArrenLex> O2: what desktop environment are you using?
[05:45] <O2> I am using ubuntu 6.0.6
[05:45] <O2> now gnome
[05:45] <tritium> O2: you're using gdm
[05:46] <tritium> (gnome display manager)
[05:46] <O2> oh...... some where can I set the system start with kde ?
[05:46] <tritium> O2: select a KDE session
[05:47] <O2> but how???
[05:47] <tritium> O2: with the mouse
[05:47] <wastrel> in the login screen you can choose it
[05:47] <O2> I am a beginner, started only several days ago
[05:47] <ArrenLex> O2: first of all, log out. =P
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Explore the menus and os.. :)
[05:47] <w30> vilefridge, I like the bootloader for Ubuntu because it has a boot for a safe boot as well as the ability to add boot options easily  to the kernel
[05:48] <O2> login screen..... the place I enter my account?
[05:48] <amicrawle> how do i modprob my hardware what is the command
[05:48] <w30> vilefridge, but no you can boot Ubuntu directly.
[05:48] <O2> OK, I try now
[05:48] <graft> hey y'all - i'm trying to get fglrx working, but it keeps disabling direct rendering - it says i have composite extension enabled even after i comment it out
[05:48] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  lspci shows some of the detected stuff.
[05:49] <w30> vilefridge, how would you update your kernel with update safely?
[05:49] <tritium> amicrawle: to use modprobe, you need to know the module name you want to load.
[05:49] <amicrawle> yes it found it
[05:49] <IcemanV9> is glade similiar to VB?
[05:49] <elspeth> Hi, I've been given a file to set up printing, which is supposed to work under a fedora system thus: /usr/sbin/system-config-printer-tui --Ximport < printer-settings.xml . Is there an ubuntu equivalent incantation?
[05:49] <amicrawle> the phillips tv card
[05:49] <O2> god, kde is still installing..... what a long time
[05:49] <ArrenLex> graft: can you show us where it says you "have composite enabled"?
[05:49] <tritium> w30: apt-get can update your kernel safely
[05:49] <amicrawle> DR WILLS
[05:49] <tritium> amicrawle: that should be auto-detected, _if_ it's supported
[05:49] <w30> tritium, ok
[05:50] <amicrawle> ok how do i run it then
[05:50] <tritium> elspeth: System->Administration->Printing
[05:50] <graft> any idea how i can get this straight?
[05:50] <graft> hewooo
[05:50] <elspeth> tritium: unfortunately, the xml isn't really all that human-readable; is there a way to import the settings directly?
[05:51] <tritium> amicrawle: check the output of "dmesg" for messages to see if it's detected
[05:51] <ArrenLex> (21:49:42) ArrenLex: graft: can you show us where it says you "have composite enabled"?
[05:51] <amicrawle> ok it see the sound part of the tuner card
[05:51] <amicrawle> but no video
[05:51] <Keaton> Not sure this is the right place to ask, but how do I get GRUB to work when I have Windows on a master drive and Linux on a slave drive?
[05:51] <amicrawle> how to  DR WILLS
[05:52] <ArrenLex> Keaton: have you found that it doesn't work?
[05:52] <graft> arrrr
[05:52] <Keaton> Well, when I turn on the computer it boots straight into Windows 2k
[05:52] <Keaton> That's a pretty clear sign.
[05:52] <ArrenLex> graft: feel free to respond to me any time.
[05:52] <graft> err, sorry, got lagged out
[05:52] <w30> Keaton,
[05:52] <Keaton> I actually installed Windows AFTER Linux.
[05:52] <graft> what was your question?
[05:52] <tritium> Keaton: did you install ubuntu and configure it to install grub?
[05:52] <wastrel> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:52] <ArrenLex> graft: I only asked it twice.
[05:52] <tritium> Keaton: ah, that's it
[05:52] <wastrel> keaton ^^^
[05:52] <ArrenLex> (21:51:18) ArrenLex: (21:49:42) ArrenLex: graft: can you show us where it says you "have composite enabled"?
[05:52] <graft> ArrenLex: sorry, i had a major burst of lag
[05:52] <witless> hi. once i add myself to a new group, is there any way to get it to take effect without logging out completely and logging back in?
[05:52] <Keaton> Thanks, I'll check the link./
[05:53] <amicrawle> any ideas people ?
[05:53] <tritium> witless: no
[05:54] <w30> Keaton, Did you install windows after you installed Ubuntu or have the Windows drive unconnected when you installed Ubuntu. Did you install Grub in the mbr of the first hard drive?
[05:54] <witless> tritium: thanks
[05:54] <graft> umm, here: (II) fglrx(0): Composite extension enabled, disabling direct rendering
[05:54] <elspeth> *sigh*
[05:54] <Keaton> w30, I installed Kubuntu on the slave drive first, then installed Windows 2k on the master.
[05:55] <joeCoT> Keaton: just follow the how-to to reinstall grub
[05:55] <ArrenLex> graft: where is that from? /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Also, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:55] <Keaton> alrighty.
[05:55] <w30> Keaton, try to fix it by reinstalling Grub
[05:55] <w30> !Grub
[05:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:55] <graft> ArrenLex: yeah, Xorg.0.log... hold on on the pastebin...
[05:55] <w30> Keaton, see the url from ubotu
[05:56] <grok> When ubuntu is updated (say, from hoary to dapper) is a completely new kernel installed or is the old kernel just patched?
[05:56] <tritium> grok: new kernel
[05:56] <aztek> I have to boot my laptop three times before I can finally get wpa to connect. Anyone have any idea as to why?
[05:56] <grok> tritium: thanks
[05:56] <ArrenLex> grok: ubuntu comes out with new kernels quite often. They don't have to go up releases for that.
[05:56] <elspeth> it wouldn't be so annoying, if there weren't 5 printers to add
[05:56] <grok> cool, thanks
[05:56] <elspeth> there's no notes on physical location maps to printers :/
[05:56] <tritium> elspeth: what kind of file is that .xml?  It's not a standard cups file.
[05:57] <joeCoT> graft: try this http://felipe-alfaro.org/blog/2006/09/06/ubuntu-edgy-ati-fglrx-dri-3d-acceleration-and-xorg-composite-extension/
[05:57] <graft> ahh... spiffy
[05:57] <graft> thanks JoeCoT
[05:57] <elspeth> tritium: um, I'm not sure - all I know about this file is that it's supposed to work with that system-config-printer-tui utility. For all I know, it may be a cups file.
[05:57] <wastrel> i need to configure my printer
[05:58] <elspeth> my sysadmin is being ... taciturn.
[05:58] <joeCoT> graft: that might work. come back and bug us if it doesn't
[05:58] <graft> yeh.. brb
[05:58] <tritium> elspeth: you'd be better off configuring the printers with the gui tool
[05:58] <joeCoT> well, i guess he can come back other way :)
[05:59] <elspeth> tritium: that's going to be painful :/
[05:59] <ClayG> anyone encounter a problem with apt-bugupdates?
[05:59] <psp> hello
[05:59] <joeCoT> hi
[05:59] <tritium> elspeth: too bad fedora doesn't use standard cups config files!
[05:59] <ClayG> causing their apt session to fail? Mine was failing after the lat fetch
[06:00] <elspeth> tritium: *sigh* I'll live, I guess. I could learn to not like my sysadmin, though.
[06:00] <psp> i have just started using ubuntu for the last few weeks and now its asking me if i would like to upgrade to lts, should i upgrade?
[06:00] <tritium> elspeth: make sure your fedora system doesn't have an /etc/cups/cupsd.conf you can copy
[06:00] <jachyra> Am I allowed to do: wget --input-file http://www.somesite.com/inputfile.txt ? It doesn't seem to be working for me ...
[06:00] <elspeth> tritium: that's the thing; i don't have a fedora system handy
[06:00] <elspeth> tritium: otherwise i would have tried that first :/
[06:01] <joeCoT> psp: there's no reason not to. lts is the newest stable version
[06:01] <ArrenLex> jachyra: wget -i doesn't work?
[06:01] <tritium> elspeth: I've not used fedora.  I've been with debian/ubuntu too long to have tried it.
[06:01] <weeniewhite> boo
[06:01] <jachyra> ArrenLex: not for a URL
[06:01] <bimberi> elspeth: alternatively, sometimes the printer manufacturers provide PPD files (which is what CUPS needs) on their website
[06:01] <graft> coo... so, now it doesn't work for other myserious reasons
[06:01] <jachyra> ArrenLex: am I doing something wrong?
[06:01] <O2> OK, I am in KDE now
[06:01] <ArrenLex> Oh, it's a url! Oh, I don't think you can do that.
[06:01] <joeCoT> graft: lol, what's the error?
[06:01] <ArrenLex> You have to use a local file.
[06:01] <jachyra> gotcha!
[06:01] <psp> joecol: wats new in it?
[06:01] <jachyra> thanks
[06:02] <O2> ArrenLex:  Thanks
[06:02] <graft> umm...
[06:02] <ArrenLex> If you want you can use wget -i `wget http://www.somesite.com/inputfile.txt ` but that's a kludge =P
[06:02] <THX-1138> !twinview is also nvidia-xconfig generates a suitable Xorg.conf
[06:02] <elspeth> bimberi: unforunately, half the problem is that the printer names, models etc are in a barely-readable xml file .. which is why i was searching for a nifty commandline incantation
[06:02] <ArrenLex> No, you can't do that.
[06:02] <psp> joecol: i heard screensavers have changed
[06:02] <ArrenLex> But something similar.
[06:02] <psp> and a few other things
[06:02] <graft> ah... kernel module version does not match driver...
[06:02] <bimberi> elspeth: ah :|
[06:02] <graft> edgy xorg with dapper kernel...
[06:02] <jachyra> ArrenLex: sorry was that last message meant for me? about not being able to do it?
[06:03] <joeCoT> psp: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606?highlight=%28what%27s%29%7C%28new%29
[06:03] <ArrenLex> jachyra: nevermind; it won't work. Ignore it.
[06:03] <bimberi> elspeth: Firefox sometimes does a reasonable job of rendering the XML in a browsable fashion
[06:03] <jachyra> ArrenLex: ok thanks again
[06:03] <joeCoT> psp: if you're on dial-up or something, eft should be stable fairly soon, so you might want to wait out
[06:03] <elspeth> bimberi: I'll give that a go .. at least, it may make figuring out what to transcribe where easier
[06:03] <joeCoT> graft: that'd be a problem. why a dapper kernel?
[06:04] <lansing> i got a question do i need specal drivers for playin dvds
[06:04] <w30> elspeth, I went to the cups sight and found a tar file full of Samsung drivers. Maybe they have one for your printer. All it did was give you a lot mor printer choices and drivers when you went through the gnome-printer-config
[06:04] <graft> joeCoT: eh... i briefly upgraded to the edgy kernel at an early point and it was not very friendly, so i got scared and went back and haven't bothered to upgrade since
[06:05] <psp> graft which version r u using
[06:05] <ArrenLex> lansing: you need the libdvdcss package. You'll have to find this yourself because it's illegal.
[06:05] <w30> sight/site
[06:05] <tritium> !dvd > lansing
[06:05] <elspeth> w30: half the problem is identifying what the printers I have are - I don't necessarily have physical access at the moment to all of them, and the xml isn't precisely meant to be human-readable
[06:05] <psp> im not upgrading
[06:05] <psp> im happy with mine as it is
[06:05] <psp> cant install my printer tho :(
[06:05] <joeCoT> graft: ok. if you're using the dapper repositories (and you've updated), you should be able to reinstall fglrx to get the one matching the dapper kernel
[06:05] <w30> elspeth, is God punishing you for something :=)
[06:06] <elspeth> w30: *sigh* maybe. Whatever it was, I must have had a good time, because i don't remember a thing.
[06:06] <graft> joeCoT: nah i have edgy reposes - i'll probably just upgrade my kernel tonight
[06:06] <w30> elspeth, lol
[06:06] <lansing> ok yhsnx
[06:06] <joeCoT> graft: ok, that's another valid option :) i'll probably edge next week on monday
[06:06] <lansing> thanx
[06:07] <tritium> graft: it'll have other dependencies, so it'll pull in other packages from edgy as well
[06:07] <elspeth> :)
[06:07] <elspeth> oh well, thanks for your help, people
[06:07] <lansing> but i can get the driver tho right
[06:07] <joeCoT> actually, i might dist-update right now ...
[06:07] <elspeth> i'll do it the hard way.
[06:07] <elspeth> bbiab.
[06:07] <tritium> lansing: see the URL I had ubotu send you
[06:07] <lansing> ok
[06:07] <indref> Ok, who wants to help me with users and permissions?
[06:08] <joeCoT> indref: what about them?
[06:08] <graft> tritium: that's fine, i'm running edgy
[06:08] <indref> I just made a new user, for my roommate to use, I logged in, and he can do everything I can :<
[06:08] <tritium> graft: good, then.
[06:08] <joeCoT> indref: like what? what do you not want him to do?
[06:08] <indref> Soo, how do I restrict him some?
[06:08] <indref> First of all, I want him right out of my home dir.
[06:08] <indref> Second, I want him to be unable to install/change/etc
[06:09] <tritium> indref: you'll have to change the permissions on your home dir.
[06:09] <indref> Just play games and surf the web, that's it.
[06:09] <joeCoT> indref: he should need to sudo to install/etc. if he's in the wheel group, remove him
[06:09] <indref> wheel group?
[06:09] <tritium> indref: and unless you intentionally added him to the admin group, he should not be able to install packages
[06:09] <tritium> No, not the wheel group.  The admin group.
[06:09] <bimberi> s/wheel/admin/ on ubuntu
[06:10] <joeCoT> ick, sorry
[06:10] <indref> How do I tell what groups he's in.
[06:10] <bimberi> indref: groups <username>
[06:10] <tritium> indref: pull up the System->Administration->Users and Groups
[06:10] <indref> shayde dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev scanner
[06:11] <indref> Username is shayde, for reference.
[06:11] <ryan_> whats the defalt file browser for ubuntu
[06:11] <joeCoT> bah, i'm gonna make myself useful and update to eft >_<
[06:11] <bimberi> ryan_: nautilus
[06:11] <ryan_> thanks
[06:11] <tritium> indref: good, he's not in the admin group
[06:12] <indref> Yeah, that's a plus.
[06:12] <indref> But my files might as well be his.
[06:12] <tritium> indref: change the permissions on your home directory
[06:12] <mnepton> (recursively)
[06:12] <bimberi> indref: by default, home directories are world readable (but not writable)
[06:12] <indref> He can write, I tested.
[06:12] <indref> My files are 1600777
[06:13] <mnepton> indref: what is your user name on the machine?
[06:13] <indref> I did that once, and everything stopped working :<
[06:13] <indref> indref
[06:13] <indref> :D
[06:13] <indref> Permissions are real touch and go for me.
[06:13] <indref> One thing I just can't get the hang of.
[06:14] <Fireal> .
[06:14] <raghu206> what is the best player for playing files extension .wsx
[06:14] <soundmaster80> hi all, my lost+found directory is a bit large. I'm wondering what the command is to empty it
[06:14] <soundmaster80> or can i delete it and another is re-created
[06:14] <indref> The delete key?
[06:15] <ArrenLex> raghu: .wsx files are playlists. You can't "play" a playlist; you have to play the file that it points to.
[06:15] <DemisM> i get the following error in wpa_supplement how do I Know it's working or has anyone setup wpa2 personal and can show me there config file?
[06:15] <DemisM> RSN: Ignored PMKID candidate without preauth flag
[06:15] <manu__> hi
[06:15] <indref> mnepton, Still with me here?
[06:15] <raghu206> ArrenLex, pls say how to do that
[06:15] <soundmaster80> so i can delete it and another one is auto created?
[06:15] <lansing> i dont even know wat iam lookin for
[06:15] <manu__> can anyone tell me what is the difference between cairo and gnomecanvas?
[06:15] <mnepton> indref: sudo chown -R indref:indref /home/indref && sudo chmod -R 600 /home/indref && sudo chmod +X -R /home/indref
[06:15] <ArrenLex> raghu: it depends what media player you're using. I'm not familiar with any of the default ubuntu ones so I doubt I can help you much.
[06:16] <DHN_WP> does anyone know of a utility that can tell me which keyboard button is being pressed?
[06:16] <indref> mnepton, Holy crap that's a mouthful!
[06:16] <THX-1138> xev
[06:16] <mnepton> indref: cut'n'paste :)
[06:16] <indref> mnepton, Hell no, last time I did that everything broke, what does all that do?
[06:16] <mnepton> indref: acutally, you prolly don;t have a group setup for your username
[06:16] <DHN_WP> THX-1138: thanks
[06:16] <mnepton> indref: sudo chown -R indref:users /home/indref && sudo chmod -R 600 /home/indref && sudo chmod +X -R /home/indref
[06:16] <bsigil> I'm running breezy and I recently got my dapper drake installation CD.  Is there some way I can just use the CD to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[06:17] <mnepton> indref: that changes your home directory and everything in it to only be readable and writable by you
[06:17] <ArrenLex> bsigil: man apt-cdrom
[06:17] <tritium> mnepton: but he _should_ have a group for his username
[06:17] <THX-1138> manu_ xev - will give you that. the key settings are in gconf-editor /apps/metacity
[06:17] <tritium> (unless his install went haywire)
[06:17] <indref> mnepton, Won't that stop other programs from being about to R/W to it?
[06:17] <indref> mnepton, And won't that ruin the hidden files?
[06:17] <mnepton> indref: other programs run as your user (e.g. Firefox)
[06:18] <indref> mnepton, I don't think I get it, why do I need the hundred of other users on my machine then?
[06:18] <mnepton> indref: and how would it ruin hidden files? not sure i understand.
[06:18] <indref> mnepton, I have hidden files, configs for many programs, could I ruin those?
[06:18] <mnepton> indref: what apps that you do not launch as your user need access to your home dir?
[06:19] <indref> mnepton, I dunno, you tell me.
[06:19] <THX-1138> not sure why xbindkeys segfault no need to try it. xmodmap may be an alternate. - haven't been able to assign a command to a key using gconf-editor. - bad syntax maybe?
[06:19] <mnepton> indref: only if, say, you're running apache as the apache user and it needs to read site stuff from your ~/
[06:19] <slavik> anyone else run edgy by chance?
[06:19] <indref> mnepton, Like I said, permissions are my kryptonite, I just can't get the hang of them.
[06:19] <slavik> indref: what's so difficult?
[06:19] <indref> mnepton, I might want to set up a connection between my machine and my wifes.
[06:19] <ArrenLex> slavik: edgy help in #ubuntu+1
[06:19] <DHN_WP> I have a remote control for the Sony VAIO.  In Ubuntu the remote signals seem to have been converted into keyboard presses.  Anyone know of some utility I can use to configure this?
[06:20] <indref> sladen, What are all the different users and groups for?
[06:20] <slavik> ArrenLex: I know, was hoping there were edgy people here
[06:20] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: Does this help? http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Linux.KeyboardShortcuts
[06:20] <joeCoT> slavik: #ubuntu+1
[06:20] <wastrel> thx-1138 is people, it's made of people
[06:20] <indref> sladen, slocate, messagebus, hplip, what are they all?
[06:20] <slavik> indref: you could be in group students and I could be in group staff and I can all some of my files to be readable only staff and other by anyone
[06:20] <mnepton> indref: making your home dir only readable and writable by you is just fine for 90% of desktop users
[06:20] <THX-1138> ianmacgregor: It just might. - thank you for the link'
[06:21] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: You're welcome :)
[06:21] <indref> mnepton, Right, what about that network I need down the line?
[06:21] <ArrenLex> indref: hplip is Hewlett Packard scanner drivers; does that help?
[06:21] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: I think you want section 1.2 on that page
[06:21] <indref> ArrenLex, A little :D
[06:21] <ArrenLex> !sladen
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sladen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <THX-1138> wasterl - lol  "Buy! Buy more! Buy more NOW!"
[06:21] <ArrenLex> !slocate
[06:21] <ubotu> slocate: Secure replacement of findutil's locate. In component main, is extra. Version 3.0.beta.r3-1 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 152 kB
[06:21] <mnepton> indref: a network connection has no bearing on the permissions of your home, until you try to share it.
[06:21] <ArrenLex> Well, that's some more help.
[06:21] <ArrenLex> !messagebus
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about messagebus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <mnepton> indref: and if and when that happens come back here.
[06:21] <wastrel> wrong dystopian future i guess
[06:22] <indref> mnepton, That is sound advice :D
[06:22] <mnepton> indref: "turn that stereo down, you'll ruin your hearing."
[06:22] <indref> mnepton, I'll give that big long command of yours a whirl.
[06:22] <indref> mnepton, What stereo.
[06:22] <mnepton> indref: oh, just some more "sound advice"
[06:22] <indref> mnepton, Right :D
[06:23] <slavik> indref: mono = single source, stereo = multiple sources
[06:23] <lansing> wat am i lookin for
[06:23] <indref> sladen, Isn't stereo specifically two sources?
[06:23] <indref> mnepton, sudo chown -R indref:users /home/indref && sudo chmod -R 600 /home/indref && sudo chmod +X -R /home/indre
[06:24] <indref> Right?
[06:24] <indref> Hmm, I missed the f on the end.
[06:24] <THX-1138> ianmacgregor: Can i use a bash alias as a command?
[06:24] <DHN_WP> Ubuntu has the best hardware support I've seen yet.
[06:24] <indref> DHN_WP, Agreed.
[06:24] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: You can use anthing that is executable.
[06:24] <ArrenLex> DNH_WP: because they're willing to include closed drivers. By that logic, Windows has the best support.
[06:24] <ianmacgregor> THX-1138: I would think you can
[06:24] <THX-1138> ianmacgregor: Okay, Thanks Again.
[06:24] <joeCoT> bah, why is the us ubuntu repo so slow?
[06:25] <indref> Damn closed drivers.
[06:25] <DHN_WP> ArrenLex: and it does
[06:25] <Tonren> Hey guys, there is a workgroup on the Windows Network that I can access from Windows, but in Linux when I try to access it via Nautilus, I get a "could not display all the contents of this folder" error.
[06:25] <w30> mnepton, that's bad, really bad...
[06:25] <ianmacgregor> joeCoT: Because it's very popular?
[06:25] <indref> mnepton, Call me nervous, but I am waiting for a 10-4 from you.
[06:25] <ArrenLex> DHN_WP: Yes it does. But for some reason people still use Linux.
[06:25] <tritium> ArrenLex: it beats leaving the user without decent hardware support
[06:25] <nomin> I just got explorer up and running.
[06:25] <ArrenLex> tritium: does it? It depends on your priorities.
[06:25] <nomin> anyone want to know how to do it?
[06:25] <slavik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26400/
[06:25] <tritium> ArrenLex: it does
[06:26] <joeCoT> ianmacgregor: i'm well aware. why doesn't it have a better connection? or, why doesn't it load-balance to, say, canada when it's overloaded?
[06:26] <DHN_WP> so far Ubuntu recognized my remote control for Sony VAIO
[06:26] <tritium> Since our priorities are not "screw you, user!"
[06:26] <DHN_WP> although it's converting the signal into keyboard presses
[06:26] <ianmacgregor> joeCoT: No idea, 'twas just a guess.
[06:26] <tamacracker> Hey guys?...
[06:26] <indref> Ok, I did it, I'm logging out to try it.
[06:27] <DHN_WP> but it's better than I expect from Linux
[06:27] <wastrel> nomin:  write a howto :]
[06:27] <tamacracker> What's a good mp3 to wav converter to download?
[06:27] <kralcymerej> AHHHHHHHH help!!
[06:27] <nomin> wastrel:  no need to.  It's all right here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine
[06:27] <bimberi> tamacracker: audacity
[06:27] <ArrenLex> tritium: "screw you, user!" is not, AFAIK, the priority of any Linux distro...
[06:27] <nomin> just follow the step by step instructions
[06:27] <ArrenLex> Some just have the priority of "morals are actually important!"
[06:27] <Tonren> tamacracker: http://directory.fsf.org/audio-convert.html
[06:27] <tamacracker> audacity?
[06:28] <ArrenLex> tamacracker: lame? xD
[06:28] <mnepton> indref: hmm? waiting for a what now?
[06:28] <tritium> ArrenLex: morality has nothing to do with providing drivers
[06:28] <w30> I have a question? If you have two identical commands and both are in $PATH, which one wins?
[06:28] <bimberi> !info audacity
[06:28] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[06:28] <indref> mnepton, Nevermind, back in a sec. :DF
[06:28] <kralcymerej> I just rebooted my system and now everything except the top right panel loads??? can anyone help?
[06:28] <ArrenLex> tritium: of course it does, if the drivers are closed.
[06:28] <Tonren> w30: whichever shows up first in $PATH
[06:28] <Tonren> Hey guys, there is a workgroup on the Windows Network that I can access from Windows, but in Linux when I try to access it via Nautilus, I get a "could not display all the contents of this folder" error.
[06:28] <bimberi> w30: the one in the first directory in $PATH
[06:28] <w30> Tonren, thanks
[06:28] <tritium> ArrenLex: no, there is no connection
[06:28] <ArrenLex> w30: the one that appears earliest in #PATH
[06:28] <ianmacgregor> tamacracker: apt-cache search 2wav
[06:29] <bsigil> Bah.  I just have the Dapper Desktop CD.  I need the Alternate install CD to upgrade.
[06:29] <joeCoT> Arrenlex: I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is more focused on usability than only accepting open-source drivers.
[06:29] <tamacracker> Sweet thanks!
[06:29] <soundmaster80> ok, for some reason i'm using 17gb of a 18gb harddrive. is there anything i can run to find out where my space is going?
[06:29] <ArrenLex> tritium: of course there is. Free software is a belief. It's a way of life.
[06:29] <tritium> ArrenLex: please, take your _opinion_ to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:29] <ArrenLex> xD as opposed to your opinion, which is fine here?
[06:29] <aztek> how do i completely stop and restart the PCMCIA services
[06:29] <slavik> tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26400/ any idea why it get signal 11?
[06:29] <Tonren> soundmaster80: go to your home directory and type du -sh
[06:29] <tritium> ArrenLex: no, let's both not discuss it here
[06:29] <slavik> isn't signal 11 = segfault?
[06:30] <tritium> ubuntu has already made its policy regarding providing drivers for users
[06:30] <wastrel> soundmaster80:  check /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:30] <slavik> code::blocks is considered more current
[06:30] <kralcymerej> hey all, I just rebooted my system and now everything except the top right panel loads??? can anyone help?
[06:30] <slavik> wrong channel, sorry
[06:30] <soundmaster80> ok, tonren nothing in either of them
[06:31] <wastrel> looks perlish
[06:31] <jachyra> I'm new to Linux, how can I look up manual pages associated to standard c libraries associated with Ubuntu?
[06:31] <Tonren> soundmaster80: hmm... check out the man page for du, it'll work for ya
[06:31] <wastrel> jachyra:  sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[06:31] <soundmaster80> ok, i'll check it out
[06:31] <ArrenLex> tritium: of course. Ubuntu is free to provide anything it wishes; choice is the benefit of Linux. There are already distributions which fulfil the role of openness. It's merely good-natured argument as to the benefit of open source.
[06:31] <jachyra> wastrel: thanks so much!
[06:31] <mnepton> tritium: the decision made was to provide a free distribution that anyone could alter, redistribute, or change. some drivers allow for that, and are thus included. some drivers are closed and do not allow things like redistribution, and are therefor not included. but it was no decision about drivers in and of themselves.
[06:32] <joeCoT> ArrenLex: which is perfect discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic, or the offtopic ubuntu forums
[06:32] <ArrenLex> 'course. It was merely what came up.
[06:33] <Tonren> soundmaster80: Ah!  I figured it out
[06:33] <Tonren> soundmaster80: du -sh *
[06:33] <tritium> mnepton: no, drivers in particular were in fact addressed
[06:33] <DHN_WP> How do I get an officially supported version of Firefox that's newer than 1.5?
[06:33] <kralcymerej> any old hands around that can help a linux neophyte?
[06:33] <Tonren> Hey guys, there is a workgroup on the Windows Network that I can access from Windows, but in Linux when I try to access it via Nautilus, I get a "could not display all the contents of this folder" error.
[06:34] <ArrenLex> DHN_WP: officially supported by whom? Mozilla? Download it from getfirefox.com
[06:34] <DHN_WP> Ubuntu
[06:34] <ArrenLex> DHN_WP: I believe <IP_ADDRESS> is in the Dapper repositories.
[06:34] <DHN_WP> DHN_WP: so if I want something newer I have to install it myself?
[06:34] <joeCoT> DHN_WP: there aren't any. You can install the 2.0 branch as a deb from mozilla.org, but it may break ubuntu dependancies that depend on 1.5
[06:34] <Madpilot> !info firefox edgy
[06:34] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.99+2.0rc2+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 8952 kB, installed size 28540 kB
[06:35] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: DHN_WP is talking to himself. It's kind of weird.
[06:35] <ArrenLex> ArrenLex: I know. o_O
[06:35] <DHN_WP> ArrenLex: Haha
[06:35] <Madpilot> DHN_WP, looks like 1.99 will be in Edgy when it comes out in two weeks or so
[06:35] <ArrenLex> DHN_WP: if you want a newer version than what? What came with the install-cd? Yeah, you have to install it.
[06:35] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  just ask :]
[06:35] <Fireal> when intalling from live cd how can I tell the mount point for my partitions?  don't see it.
[06:35] <kralcymerej> I just rebooted my system and now everything except the top right panel loads??? can anyone help?
[06:35] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  gnome or kde?
[06:36] <kralcymerej> gnome
[06:36] <Fireal> gnome ->gparted
[06:36] <joeCoT> DHN_WP: There are newer versions, but they're not tested fully yet, and might break packages that depend on 1.5. the same discussion was made over why they didn't get include 1.5 in the breezy backports ;)
[06:36] <wastrel> what's the top right panel?   did you set up a custom panel?
[06:36] <soundmaster80> Tonren...thank you...you have pointed me to /var/log :)
[06:37] <lansing> i dont under stand on wat its tellin me i need a lil help
[06:37] <Tonren> soundmaster80: hahaha, glad to help
[06:37] <ianmacgregor> wastrel: he may be talking about the notification area applet.. he may have removed it
[06:37] <slavik> lansing: who is telling you what?
[06:37] <cschneid> is there a partition resizer?  I want to keep my home dir, and reinstall the OS
[06:37] <lansing> iam tryin to get the drivers to play dvds
[06:37] <jachyra> wastrel: sorry to bother you again, but I just got manpages-dev, how do I search for say .. printf?
[06:37] <ArrenLex> cscheneid: gparted
[06:37] <ArrenLex> lansing: libdvdcss
[06:37] <ianmacgregor> cschneid: gparted
[06:37] <lansing> for breezy
[06:37] <ArrenLex> !dvd
[06:37] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:38] <soundmaster80> cd ok, this is crazy
[06:38] <wastrel> jachyra:  man 3 printf
[06:38] <soundmaster80> my cups access_log is 17gb
[06:38] <soundmaster80> that's not right is it?
[06:38] <cschneid> ianmacgregor, how reliable is it?  am I going to lose any data while doing it?
[06:38] <jachyra> wastrel: thanks again
[06:38] <slavik> soundmaster80: lots of printing, eh?
[06:38] <lansing> ya i know arren but i dont understand on how to do it its confusing
[06:38] <tritium> cschneid: also, the partioner in the installer can resize partitions
[06:38] <kralcymerej> just the stock default panel (i.e. shutdown/date/volume/power/network/etc.) . everything else loads but doesn't respond. the only that responds is the "trash"!
[06:38] <soundmaster80> well, i have been but that's not right for it to get to that size is it?
[06:39] <ianmacgregor> cschneid: You shoudl always backup data when doing that type of operation, regardless of how reliable the app is. But, I have used gparted for a long while with no problems.
[06:39] <slavik> soundmaster80: no idea ... but I don't think it's right
[06:39] <cschneid> one last quick question then, how do I tell cp to also copy dot files (hidden files)
[06:40] <kralcymerej> any ideas?
[06:40] <slavik> cschneid: cp *.*
[06:40] <ArrenLex> lansing: do this in a terminal: "wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/dapper-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_i386.deb"
[06:40] <ArrenLex> lansing: then: "sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_i386.deb"
[06:40] <Madpilot> cschneid, 'man cp' is the manual - the flag is probably something like -A, but check first, I'm just guessing
[06:40] <ArrenLex> lansing: then: "rm libdvdcss2*.deb"
[06:41] <ArrenLex> lansing: and that should set you up.
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[06:41] <joeCoT> ^kick?
[06:41] <slavik> Madpilot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26400/ any idea why it segfaults?
[06:41] <ianmacgregor> Donkeybreath: That is ot for this channel
[06:41] <Dr_willis> I got an Image for ya to host.... :)
[06:41] <tritium> Donkeybreath: stop that!
[06:41] <indref> Sweet!
[06:41] <Dr_willis> and your momma wont like it..
[06:41] <indref> mnepton, Perfect!
[06:42] <indref> Ban?
[06:42] <tritium> yes
[06:42] <Madpilot> indref, yes.
[06:42] <indref> oh noes D:
[06:42] <joeCoT> well, it's a bot
[06:42] <Madpilot> which reminds me
[06:42] <BHSPitLappy> got a problem
[06:42] <joeCoT> people don't generally join rooms and spam websites first off
[06:42] <indref> Madpilot, Hey, whatever you say boss :D
[06:42] <Dr_willis> lets post images there.. advertising this irc channel/network! :)
[06:42] <kralcymerej> does anyone have an idea re my panel issue?
[06:43] <indref> kralcymerej, Still have that problem?
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> a USB hard drive of mine (a 30GB iPod), opened in qtparted or gparted shows no partitions
[06:43] <indref> kralcymerej, Have you tried resetting them?
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> a big unallocated space
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> in fdisk, the actual partitions show
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> this a bug?
[06:43] <mnepton> indref: glad you're happy
[06:43] <ianmacgregor> kralcymerej: Did you create a custom panel? I don't understand "top right panel"
[06:43] <kralcymerej> just the stock default panel (i.e. shutdown/date/volume/power/network/etc.) . everything else loads but doesn't respond. the only that responds is the "trash"!
[06:43] <ianmacgregor> kralcymerej: Or are you referring to a panel applet?
[06:43] <indref> mnepton, Thank you for helping me. Now I need to change my password, the admin/everything password. He knows it.
[06:44] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  is the panel there, but blank or is there no panel at all?
[06:44] <kralcymerej> panel is blank and does not respond
[06:44] <jordan> My volume is much louder in OSx than Ubuntu.
[06:44] <mnepton> indref: the password for your account?
[06:44] <indref> mnepton, Yeah.
[06:44] <muhammad> is there any way to save updates  in ubuntu ?
[06:44] <mnepton> indref: "passwd" (no quotes) in a terminal
[06:45] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  so you right-click it but it doesn't respond?
[06:45] <w30> cschneid, doesn't cp read .files ok, I never had to do any thing special copying dot files except name them  with * or *.*
[06:45] <kralcymerej> correct, quite frustrating actually
[06:45] <indref> mnepton, Well that was easy..
[06:46] <kralcymerej> any suggestions people might have would be most welcome
[06:46] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  logout & back in ? :]   or kill gnome panel and restart it.
[06:46] <w30> cschneid, cp -R copies all files including .files for me any way
[06:46] <narg> Has anyone ever heard of ls -a /missing/ a directory? There is one that exists (both bittorrent and konqueror can read it), but it doesn't appear in the console at all.
[06:46] <slavik> narg: what is the name?
[06:46] <ianmacgregor> kralcymerej: You can run killall gnome-panel and it should respawn on its own
[06:47] <wastrel> narg:  are you sure you're in the right parent directory?  does the directory name contain a weard character that maybe the terminal doesn't like?
[06:47] <jordan> My volume is much louder in OSx than Ubuntu. How can I make the volume louder than Volume control wil let me?
[06:47] <narg> "More Friends music from FINAL FANTASY ~Final Fantasy Orchestra Concert in Los Angeles 2005~" (directory)
[06:47] <narg> does the ~ screw with it?
[06:47] <kralcymerej> logout and back in results in same issue, and pardon my ineptitude but how can I access the terminal with out loading from applications menu?
[06:47] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  alt-f2
[06:47] <joeCoT> narg: sure it's not just wrapping or something? Just it show up with ls -la ?
[06:47] <wastrel> kralcymerej:  "xterm"
[06:47] <slavik> kralcymerej: ctrl+alt+F1 (or anything from F1 to F6, F7 to go back to GUI)
[06:48] <slavik> kralcymerej: or gnome-terminal
[06:48] <narg> joeCoT: I can't make it show up with any combination of ls I can think of.
[06:48] <slavik> :P
[06:48] <wastrel> mine's shorter ;]
[06:48] <kralcymerej> all try it thanks for the advice
[06:48] <joeCoT> narg: can you cd into the directory? does find see it?
[06:48] <slavik> wastrel: mine is faster :P
[06:49] <jordan> I would think raising the volume would be simple?
[06:49] <narg> joeCoT: I can cd into now that I try... So its just ls
[06:49] <joeCoT> narg: if it really doesn't show, that's weird. post about it on the forums?
[06:49] <ScurveyFrog> jordan: have you tried enabling all sliders and bumping them all up to max?
[06:49] <lansing> dont work
[06:49] <slavik> jordan: maybe it is something lower level (alsa, oss, esd or driver) that is preventing you from having higher aplitude
[06:49] <jordan> ScurveyFrog, Yes.
[06:50] <ScurveyFrog> jordan: even the weird ones like surround?
[06:50] <wastrel> narg:  are you sure the ~'s are ~'s ?
[06:50] <narg> joeCoT: I have no idea how I'd reproduce this, so I think I'm going to move the contents, cut my losses, the act like it didn't exist :p
[06:50] <puff> Evening, I"m dealing with a seriously broken dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper.
[06:50] <narg> wastrel: konqueror says they are.
[06:50] <wastrel> narg:  what happens when you autocomplete the dir name?
[06:51] <wastrel> in the terminal
[06:51] <w30> jordan, PCM is up all the way, right?
[06:51] <narg> wastrel: it works
[06:51] <jordan> w30, Yes.
[06:51] <wastrel> narg:  and ls -la | grep More    doesn't show it?
[06:51] <puff> Current strategy I'm considering is downloading & burning
[06:51] <narg> wastrel: nada
[06:52] <joeCoT> puff: what's broken about it?
[06:52] <ScurveyFrog> jordan: sorry, my experience doesn't go beyond the sliders, hopefully there are some developers around tonight
[06:52] <puff> ....downloading & burning a dapper install CD an d seeing if I can do an install over my old installw ithout losing my user data, etc.
[06:52] <puff> Is this a sane idea?
[06:52] <indref> Heh, this machine is mine.
[06:52] <narg> wastrel: peer, running ls without any flags sees it. Interesting
[06:52] <wastrel> weird
[06:52] <indref> mnepton, Thank you for your help, and your patience.
[06:53] <narg> wastrel: oh... Heh. I use the -B flag, which ignore files ending in ~. :/
[06:53] <w30> jordan, maybe it's a driver issue or the wrong (not best choice) driver?
[06:53] <wastrel> good one :]
[06:53] <joeCoT> puff: the install will override everything on the partition. since it's a live cd, you can mount the drive and take off whatever data you need. not sure if there's a straight upgrader ....
[06:53] <narg> wastrel: Considering I set the alias probably 2 or 3 years ago... (I don't erase /home when I change distros)
[06:53] <jordan> w30, the only other choice I see in volume manager is OSS, I want ALSA.
[06:54] <joeCoT> puff: but i've only been wrong like 10 minutes ago, so :shrug:
[06:54] <raghu206> how to play playlist with .wsx extesion
[06:54] <ArrenLex> raghu: in what player?
[06:54] <w30> jordan, yes stick with ALSA for sure
[06:55] <raghu206> ArrenLex, mplayer
[06:55] <ScurveyFrog> jordan: you could also try alsamixer
[06:55] <ArrenLex> raghu: easy! Do you have w32codecs?
[06:55] <raghu206> ArrenLex, no pls give me link
[06:55] <ArrenLex> !w32codecs
[06:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <puff> I dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy, worked fine.  Changed the source.lists to dapper, dist-upgraded, it chugged away but somewherearound  850 packages in died with "Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[06:56] <ArrenLex> raghu: download this file : http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[06:56] <puff> Re-ran dist-upgrade a couple of times, somewhere in that process the laptop rebooted and now eth1 and eth0 are missing.
[06:56] <ArrenLex> raghu: and install it.
[06:56] <ArrenLex> raghu: then just run "mplayer -playlist <file.wsx>
[06:56] <ArrenLex> "
[06:56] <w30> jordan, how about the actual hardware driver like for what sound card or onboard chip?
[06:56] <execrator777> i am trying to set up a dual boot WinXP Home/Kubuntu Dapper Drake system on a dell E1505. I can't get past the partitioner, it keeps saying that the partition is not big enough even though its 40GB. I use the other 40 GB for windows. And it won't create a new partition in the empty space. Please help! I don't know what to do!
[06:57] <joeCoT> puff: you could always burn the cd, mount it, and use it as the repo
[06:57] <totall_6_7> I got it, i got it, i got it, i finnaly figured out how to get access to a MS Access db :D:D:D
[06:57] <puff> Come again?
[06:57] <puff> Use the CD as the repository?
[06:57] <puff> Ah, that might be cooo.l....
[06:57] <raghu206> ArrenLex, the file is on media server
[06:58] <joeCoT> puff: yes. that's how ubuntu sets it up by default anyways. check your sources.list
[06:58] <ArrenLex> raghu: it doesn't matter. mplayer can handle it.
[06:58] <execrator777>  i am trying to set up a dual boot WinXP Home/Kubuntu Dapper Drake system on a dell E1505. I can't get past the partitioner, it keeps saying that the partition is not big enough even though its 40GB. I use the other 40 GB for windows. And it won't create a new partition in the empty space. Please help! I don't know what to do!
[06:58] <ArrenLex> mplayer -playlist <file/url/whatever>
[06:58] <joeCoT> puff: the top line lists the install cd as the repo. if you had internet on install, it's commented out
[06:58] <BHSPitLappy> execrator777, what's it say?
[06:58] <puff> Cool.
[06:58] <puff> That would be much a coolness.
[06:59] <joeCoT> puff: it won't have /all/ the packages you need, but at least the networking stuff should be there. it's worth a shot.
[06:59] <Fireal> In the graphical install from the LiveCD, how can I tell which partition root and/or home are mounted in?
[06:59] <execrator777> Basically it seems like its making the partition but it never creates it
[06:59] <BHSPitLappy> Fireal, the step right after the partitioning step.
[06:59] <execrator777> and then it says that the partition is not big enough to install linux.
[06:59] <execrator777> yeah
[06:59] <puff> Well, at the very least I guess I could boot with the live CD to get the network working and use that to back up the data.
[07:00] <execrator777> any ideas?
[07:00] <Fireal> Ha, guess I was hung for a moment, thanks!
[07:00] <joeCoT> puff: yep, at the very least. i generally reinstall when i have stuff like that happen :shrug: but then again i keep my data on a separate partition ;)
[07:02] <execrator777> so does anybody have any ideas?
[07:03] <BHSPitLappy> execrator777, not real sure
[07:03] <Dr_willis> execrator777,  check youf 'fdisk -l' output and perhaps put it on pastebin for use to see.
[07:04] <Dr_willis> execrator777,   do have a section of the hard drive 'unallocated' ?
[07:04] <execrator777> yeah, its 8mb
[07:04] <execrator777> sorry dr_willis, what does that mean?
[07:04] <execrator777> check youf 'fdisk -l' output and perhaps put it on pastebin for use to see.
[07:05] <joeCoT> execrator777: .... that's possibly why. what parititions does fdisk list?
[07:05] <execrator777> thats the partitioner in the kubuntu installer? or windoze?
[07:05] <execrator777> oh i know
[07:05] <execrator777> windows right?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> execrator777,  im thinking you are failing to have a 'unallocated' space on the hard drive for  linux to install to.
[07:05] <puff> joeCoT: Y'know, I kept saying I wante dto do that and everybnody kept telling me not to :-(.
[07:06] <joeCoT> execrator: are you in the live cd? open a console, type: sudo fdisk -l
[07:06] <execrator777> i try to make the unallocated space but the partitioner wont do it
[07:06] <execrator777> ok hold on
[07:06] <joeCoT> paste the output into the pastebin, link it here
[07:08] <DHN_WP> anyone know how to set a translation for input device event?
[07:08] <DHN_WP> translation layer
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> execrator777, you should make a (I recommend reiserfs)-formatted partition, and on the next step, set it as your /
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> and a swap
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> maybe even separate / and /home partitions, but whatever floats yer boat
[07:09] <execrator777> i dont have a livecd, i have only the installl disk. can I use a Backtrack or Slax livecd?
[07:10] <joeCoT> execrator: are you using the standard dapper/lts install disk?
[07:11] <execrator777> no the alternate one, for advanced options
[07:12] <joeCoT> grr.... does the install cd have an option to go to a console? i forget
[07:12] <Fireal> trying to add FAT32 partition, any HowTo's out there?
[07:13] <execrator777> the options are install in text mode, install a server, check cd for defects, rescue a broken system, memtest, boot from first hard disk
[07:13] <execrator777> and it says press f6 for boot options
[07:13] <joeCoT> um, rescue a broken system? does that bring you to a console?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Fireal,  trying to mount an existing fat32 partition? or create a new one?
[07:14] <hyperpenguin> How can I go about getting packages on to a non-networked machine with a flash drive or CD?
[07:14] <execrator777> no it just starts the installer in rescue mode
[07:14] <mnepton> execrator777: personally, i would recommend against Reiser.
[07:14] <Fireal> Dr_Will:  Using Live CD, create one
[07:14] <Jbirk> Hi
[07:14] <execrator777> whats Reiser?
[07:14] <Jbirk> I am in #ubuntu-xgl fyi
[07:14] <Jbirk> What is the other XGL room?
[07:14] <Jbirk> Reiser is a File System
[07:15] <mnepton> execrator777: a type of filesystem. when you format Linux partitions, i recommend sticking with ext3
[07:15] <Fireal> Dr_willis: sorry, got your name wrong
[07:15] <tamacracker> Anyone here make beats or just music in general on Ubuntu?
[07:15] <joeCoT> execrator: alright, in that case, do you have a linux live cd you can use? just need access to fdisk
[07:15] <execrator777> yeah i have slax and backtrack. which ones should i use?
[07:16] <joeCoT> doesn't matter. they should both have fdisk
[07:16] <tamacracker> Is there a program on Ubuntu such as Fruity Loops (music maker)?
[07:17] <THX-1138> tamacracker freenode is an irc server for open source. - maybe there is a channel for your favorite app?
[07:17] <jamx> tamacracker: hydrogen, but it might not give you as much as you get with fruity loops
[07:17] <tamacracker> freenode? alright ill check it out
[07:17] <tamacracker> i see
[07:17] <execrator777> ok hold on
[07:18] <THX-1138> got dual monitors set up using #xorg here.
[07:18] <hedix> PleAt44 spamer
[07:18] <wastrel> hyperpenguin:  you can get them with  apt-get -d install <package>   ( -d is "download only")  and collect the packages from /var/cache/apt/archives/   this will be tedious if there are a lot of dependencies.   there may be a better way :]
[07:18] <Dr_willis> Ugh...
[07:18] <mheath[laptop] > i'm going to talk to a freenode op about getting him klined, hedix...he's been spamming in a few channels
[07:18] <hyperpenguin> I only need a few. Thanks!
[07:18] <surekha> Hi all, I have a AMD laptop 64-bit duo core processor and have installed ubuntu on it
[07:18] <tamacracker> hey jamx, thanks bro :D
[07:19] <surekha> how do I check if it is using 2processors?
[07:19] <jamx> surekha: try in console window: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:20] <Fireal> when using the graphical partitioner on LiveCD, Default is 2 partitions Primary and swap (swap is inside extended).  The Primary has the boot flag and is 99% of disk space so I shrink it and add another partition.  I specify FAT32 but in the next step to select mount points it makes it ext3.  What am I doing wrong?
[07:20] <|thunder> sup all. I keep getting this 'Glibc version....FAILED' when I try to install Kylix 3 on Dapper. I'm pretty sure I have to symlink the file to remove the inline vesion number, but I don't know which file it is in /usr/lib
[07:20] <snoops> hey how can I refresh the list of mounted drives - which show up on my desktop and in places>removable media? I've mounted another drive and it's not showing up in there..if I reboot it'll show up..but how do I refresh it without rebooting?
[07:21] <THX-1138> surekha: the  "top" command?
[07:21] <surekha> jamx: processor: 0 is what it says
[07:21] <surekha> TJX-1138: what do I look for in the top command?
[07:21] <surekha> Cpu(s)?
[07:22] <THX-1138> its fairly graphical. -
[07:22] <MaKaTiGuY> what is the best mp3 player in ubuntu?
[07:22] <snoops> MaKaTiGuY, personally I love amarok
[07:22] <tamacracker> amaroK
[07:22] <jamx> surekha: btw, its dual core, u still have 1 chip
[07:23] <Fireal> MaKaTiGuy:  amarok
[07:23] <jamx> so thats correct
[07:23] <aidanr> snoops, does it show up in disks-admin?
[07:24] <snoops> system>administration>disks? yes it does
[07:24] <aidanr> then you can enable it there?
[07:24] <THX-1138> tamacracker: Does the graphical util system monitor show two cpus?
[07:24] <snoops> I can access it, it's mounted fine.. if I go to /media it'll be in there
[07:24] <snoops> it's just not showing up on the desktop or in places>removable media
[07:25] <tamacracker> >.> i dont have two processors
[07:25] <aidanr> oh i see
[07:25] <surekha> jamx: I dont get you
[07:25] <jamx> surekha: you have 1 processor
[07:26] <surekha> jamx: On windows I see two processors
[07:26] <THX-1138> surekha: Yes, i think it would be shown.
[07:27] <snoops> on ubuntu 32bit you need the smp enabled kernel for dual cpu(dual core or two or more cpus)..if using the 64bit ubuntu it'll automatically detect
[07:27] <lansing> on one of my files its got a lock symbal ubove it wat does that mean
[07:27] <kane77> hi anybody will help me installing apache with php support?
[07:27] <kane77> i already installed php and apache
[07:27] <aidanr> lansing, it means you don't have permissions to view the contents of the file/folder
[07:28] <THX-1138> surekha: Does the graphical /system/administration/system monitor  show two pocessors?
[07:28] <lansing> ok how do i change that cus its music from a cd
[07:28] <wastrel> kane77:  lamp howto & skip the 'm' ?
[07:29] <aidanr> lansing, sudo chown username name_of_file/folder
[07:29] <surekha> THX-1138: nope
[07:29] <surekha> it just shows one proc
[07:29] <kane77> wastrel, thanx
[07:30] <lansing> its on all my songs
[07:30] <aidanr> lansing, sudo chown -R username name_of_file/folder
[07:30] <lansing> ok
[07:31] <pajama> is there any workaround for Bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/15451 ?
[07:32] <Jbirk> hyperpenguin, why not network them?
[07:32] <pajama> I don't want to mount all my shares using smbmount, because there are a LOT of shares...
[07:32] <pajama> I want to use KDE
[07:32] <Jbirk> You can network your computer through another computer via crossover cable
[07:32] <newbie___> i want to install derivatives on my system. Is there anyone willing to help me?
[07:33] <slitherxx> /etc/bashrc is for system wide aliases?
[07:33] <Jbirk> hyperpenguin, you can easily netowrk you ubuntu box
[07:33] <MrKeuner> what was that simple gnome http browser's name?
[07:33] <wastrel> epiphany
[07:33] <MrKeuner> yes thanks
[07:34] <lansing> k the folder is my music n its on my desptop so how do i type it in
[07:35] <aidanr> lansing, in a terminal type: sudo chown -R lansing ~/my\ music/
[07:35] <aidanr> and then enter root password
[07:35] <slitherxx> [Mp3] : Pantera - Cemetery Gates [07:06]
[07:35] <aidanr> assuminh lansing is your user name
[07:35] <slitherxx> /etc/bashrc is for system wide aliases?
[07:35] <lansing> ok
[07:35] <wastrel> slitherxx:  does /etc/bashrc exist on your system?
[07:35] <THX-1138> surekha - what do you see with the uname command uname -a
[07:35] <slitherxx> no
[07:36] <wastrel> slitherxx:  /etc/bash.bashrc  probably
[07:36] <slitherxx> k
[07:36] <execrator771> joeCoT im back
[07:36] <lansing> it sys chown invalid operation
[07:37] <joeCoT> alright. fdisk -l ?
[07:37] <slitherxx> wastrel: is there some 'rehash' command i need to use after adding it?
[07:37] <DemisM> how do i get shockwave?
[07:37] <ArrenLex> ...what's with the spam when you enter the channel?
[07:37] <wastrel> slitherxx:  relog :]
[07:37] <wastrel> as in, re login
[07:37] <aidanr> lansing, weird, check spelling and case
[07:37] <THX-1138> surekha - If this is a fresh install it likely uses a very boring kernel "one size fits all"  you might want an smp kernel - easy install open synaptic
[07:37] <surekha> THX-1138: Linux 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Date... i686 GNU/Linux
[07:38] <surekha> THX-1138: Yes this is a fresh install
[07:38] <ArrenLex> "(23:37:10) PleAt44: Hello! I am selling Sony Vaio AR190G Notebooks (Core Duo T2500 2 GHz /17" /2GB DDR2 /200 GB HDD @ 7200 rpm /256MB GDDR SDRam / 17" WUXGA TFT Active Matrix (1920 x 1200)/DVD+-RW- / Blu-Ray disc), brand new for 490 euros, if interested send me an e-mail or msg now<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Thank You" <--- can we kick this guy?
[07:38] <THX-1138> use the info from the uname command to pick the right one.
[07:38] <slitherxx> wastrel: relog command not found
[07:38] <MrKeuner> I am trying to run a remote application on my local box. i use ssh -Y to connect and then run the application which is epiphany, but i get errors reagrding alsa. What am i missing?
[07:38] <ArrenLex> DemisM: there is no shockwave for Linux.
[07:38] <wastrel> relog isn't a command , sorry i meant logout & back in :]
[07:38] <slitherxx> oh
[07:39] <THX-1138> surekha - sry - that wasn't very clear.
[07:39] <lansing> ok
[07:39] <execrator771> ok its in the pastebin
[07:39] <THX-1138> !kernel
[07:39] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:39] <bimberi_> ubotu tell DemisM about shockwave
[07:39] <THX-1138> !smp
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <execrator771> do you see it?
[07:40] <Keyseir> Anybody here have a little experience with VNC?
[07:40] <wickedpuppy> execrator771, you got to paste the link here for the helpers to see
[07:40] <joeCoT> execrator: linky?
[07:40] <Keyseir> I'm trying to figure out how to set up my VNC server and figure out how to get stuff routed through my firewall to my computer
[07:41] <Keyseir> I think I need to figure out what my local IP is and plug that somewhere in the NAT settings on my router
[07:41] <execrator771> sorry
[07:41] <wastrel> Keyseir:  yes you need to forward ports to the NAT'ed box
[07:41] <execrator771> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26408
[07:42] <MrKeuner> Keyseir/ you need to route the port VNC uses to that remote pc you are running vnc on.
[07:42] <slitherxx> [Mp3] : Avenged Sevenfold - Unholy Confessions [04:47]
[07:42] <joeCoT> exec: okay, do: fdisk /dev/sda
[07:42] <lansing> chown to few arguments it says
[07:42] <joeCoT> hit n, try to make a new parition
[07:43] <slitherxx> $wastrel++;
[07:43] <slitherxx> thanks.
[07:44] <execrator771> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26409
[07:44] <execrator771> extended or primary?
[07:44] <Keyseir> looks like it uses 5801 and 5901.. hm
[07:44] <joeCoT> if it allows you to pick primary, do so
[07:45] <execrator771> now, i've got windows installed on this hard drive. does that matter?
[07:45] <Keyseir> How do I figure out what my local IP address is?
[07:45] <joeCoT> adding a new partition won't affect that
[07:45] <execrator771> ifconfig eth0
[07:45] <joeCoT> you'd have to _delete_ the other one to lose windows
[07:45] <joeCoT> or format it
[07:45] <execrator771> ok
[07:46] <execrator771> partition number?
[07:46] <wastrel> Keyseir:  ifconfig -a
[07:46] <joeCoT> doesn't matter. 2
[07:46] <Keyseir> wastrel: thank you
[07:47] <joeCoT> unless you're making another partition or something, make the size be the rest of the drive -- probably the default
[07:47] <Keyseir> so the stuff under "local loopback"?
[07:47] <execrator771> ok
[07:47] <execrator771> it says "command (m for help)"
[07:47] <joeCoT> hit p, then enter
[07:47] <joeCoT> and pastebin it
[07:48] <Jbirk> Have any of you heard of the Tornato Fan from Vantec?
[07:48] <execrator771> question: does this leave no more space for windows?
[07:48] <joeCoT> exec: you already have windows installed, right? this won't affect the windows partition at all
[07:48] <aidanr> lansing, in a terminal type: sudo chown -R lansing /home/lansing/
[07:48] <SpaceFrog> Does anyone know of a program that will read .chm files? (They're compiled HTML/Windows Help documents)
[07:49] <execrator771> i know but isnt this using up the rest of my hard disk? to where all the free space i had is being taken up by linux?
[07:49] <execrator771> i dont mean to sound like an idiot, forgive me
[07:49] <wastrel> execrator771:  how big is the drive total?
[07:50] <pacman> Anyone know how I can  improve my 3d acceleration?
[07:50] <execrator771> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26410
[07:50] <joeCoT> exec: that's alright. basically, you've already partitioned off a slice for windows. the size of the free space on the windows partition doesn't change at all by doing this. if you had 35gb or whatever free in windows before, you still do. all we're doing is partitioning unallocated space
[07:50] <execrator771> 80GB
[07:50] <THX-1138> pacman are you using an nvidia card?
[07:51] <joeCoT> exec: okay, it looks like you made the windows partition much bigger than you thought you did
[07:51] <execrator771> oh i see
[07:51] <execrator771> its like 76 gb huh
[07:51] <THX-1138> Option "RenderAccel" "true"
[07:52] <joeCoT> exec: yep. some of that might be overhead from the format. windows isn't very good at making the partition the size you tell it to ;)
[07:52] <wastrel> yeah you have one big windows partition basically
[07:52] <wastrel> you need to shrink that to free up some space on the drive.
[07:52] <wastrel> for lunix <3
[07:52] <execrator771> there is 45 gb or so free o0n the drive
[07:52] <pacman> THX-no I'm using a Radeon
[07:53] <joeCoT> exec: there's 45 gb free in the windows _partition_
[07:53] <execrator771> yes
[07:53] <execrator771> so how do i shrink that and make room for linux?
[07:53] <THX-1138> pacman - no real experience with an ati card. i have a link though
[07:53] <THX-1138> !ati