[09:43] <SEJeff> lewix: http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/ or you might google for intitle:CGI:IRC to find some already installed versions you might be able to use and then just /j #channelname to get on
[09:43] <eri--> guys how can i force a package to install; streamtuner doesnt install cause of a broken lib and i dont really care
[09:43] <eri--> ?!
[09:43] <ph8> TiG4: are you comfortable with the command line?
[09:43] <TiG4> ph8 Yes
[09:43] <ph8> i'm just trying to remember the name of the binary
[09:44] <miked595> lewix, might want to have a usb stick with your utils and you can take it with you
[09:44] <SEJeff> eri--: well a broken lib probably means it won't work
[09:44] <TiG4> **also I get this error every time i install something in synaptic---***
[09:44] <TiG4> E: unreal-leaf: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Neo8750: np channel becomes a blur to me at times..
[09:44] <ladydoor_> does anybody know off the top of their head(s) what the Tex/LaTeX command(s) would be to get 1-inch margins all around and get rid of all the space for margin notes?
[09:44] <freesun> hello ppl
[09:44] <SEJeff> lewix: if you have your own domain, cgi:irc would probably be the easiest way
[09:44] <lewix> SEJeff, do you ? :)
[09:44] <TiG4> ph8: think of it yet?
[09:44] <orbin> eri--: ST from the repos?
[09:44] <freesun> can anyone tell me where can I find info about laptop port replicators, if certain model works under linux ubuntu?
[09:45] <nattfodd> hi, funny thing: while trying to install ubuntu 0.6, partitioning destroyed ntfs partition instead of just resizing it
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> TiG4: Have you changed your sources list manually or with a script like Automatix or EasyUbuntu?
[09:45] <SEJeff> lewix: http://www.digitalprognosis.com ... not updated since 04 but you can't use it
[09:45] <lewix> SEJeff, do you have your own domain ? :)
[09:45] <nattfodd> any idea of what could have caused that and how to avoid it next time?
[09:45] <iceman24k> Never mine i'll just disable splash :)
[09:45] <miked595> lewix, can you use remote desktop or vnc?
[09:45] <ph8> gah
[09:45] <eri--> orbin, dont no i just used apt-get install stremtuner since i am more of a *BSD user than linux one ?!
[09:45] <ph8> i've gone totally blank
[09:45] <TiG4> Jack_Sparrow, Yes, but nothing to break it
[09:45] <lewix> SEJeff, and how can i set up a tunnel
[09:45] <ph8> it's like sysv
[09:45] <ph8> or initrd
[09:45] <ph8> or something
[09:45] <lewix> miked595, nope
[09:45] <SEJeff> lewix: google ssh tunnel. I need to go
[09:45] <ph8> try apt-get'ing sysv-rc-conf
[09:45] <lamenewbie> hi all
[09:45] <ph8> it's not the built-in way to do it but it will do it :)
[09:45] <nattfodd> ladydoor: it's all in lshort.pdf
[09:45] <orbin> eri--: yes. apt-get install will grab it from the ubuntu repository
[09:45] <lewix> iight, thanks
[09:46] <eri--> orbin, so do i have any other chance?!
[09:46] <orbin> eri--: if it fails to install, check if there's a bug filed for it
[09:46] <SEJeff> lewix: and if you use windows, you can have putty set up the tunnel for you.
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> TiG4: YEs... means you made changes to your source list and installed questionable pieces
[09:46] <ph8> anyone, what's the program you run from the command line to edit what starts at each run level?
[09:46] <eri--> orbin, there wasnt
[09:46] <eri--> ?
[09:46] <larvanto> kernel update seems to work now
[09:46] <TiG4> Jack_Sparrow, ah ok
[09:46] <TiG4> thanks
[09:46] <orbin> eri--: pastebin the error you're getting
[09:46] <Tonren> how do I turn ubuntu into a wireless router...?
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> TiG4: Automatix and easyubuntu are NOT recommended
[09:46] <orbin> eri--: and the commands you're using
[09:46] <k0rd> is there anyway to
[09:46] <k0rd> force your cdrom open
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> TiG4: Try rebuilding your sources
[09:47] <Phoul> Hello
[09:47] <ladydoor> nattfodd: yeah, it briefly talks about that, but trying the commands in there seems to extend the text off the right end of the paper rather than moving it over towards the left
[09:47] <orbin> eri--: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > TiG4
[09:47] <dan_kent> kord: hammer?
[09:47] <TiG4> ph8: How bout this
[09:47] <TiG4> sudo update-rc.d <program> defaults
[09:47] <Phoul> Was there just a bunch of updates?
[09:47] <ph8> looks about right ;)
[09:47] <TiG4> ph8: but i dont want it to run as root
[09:47] <TiG4> I want it to run as a certain user
[09:47] <nattfodd> ladydoor: there should be a big schematics with all the dimensions
[09:47] <dan_kent> kord: or just reboot, sounds like it's locked becuase it's trying to burn
[09:47] <ph8> doesn't the service provide a config file with runas options?
[09:47] <david1> anybody know if upgrading from 256K to 512K might be enuf RAM to run qemu with daffy?
[09:48] <orbin> Phoul: i had a kernel update today ... don't know what the stuff in topic means though
[09:48] <Phoul> Is there a bunch of new updates just recent?
[09:48] <tyler__> I need help...
[09:48] <ph8> Phoul: Do you mean a lot of new updates recently?
[09:48] <Phoul> yeah
[09:48] <Phoul> like nvidia-glx and kernel stuff
[09:48] <nattfodd> ladydoor: try \addtolength{\hoffset}{3cm} for instance
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Couple minor ones
[09:48] <lewix> thanks
[09:49] <lewix> i have to reboot my machine
[09:49] <lewix> brb
[09:49] <cpk2> !help
[09:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:49] <ph8> i've only had kernel stuff in the last week
[09:49] <ph8> but i don't have an nvidia card
[09:49] <vcolombo> there was a kernel update that screwed with nvidia stuff today
[09:49] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[09:49] <orbin> i've had some lib updates too
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[09:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:50] <wubrgamer> can i install gparted whlie running the ubuntu livecd ?
[09:50] <SEJeff> wubrgamer: yes, just open synaptic
[09:50] <orbin> vcolombo: link to info?
[09:50] <eri--> orbin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23462
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> wubrgamer: The install program has gparted in it so gparted should be in there somewhere
[09:50] <vcolombo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257459
[09:51] <mcd> Hi I was wondering how I can share my HD so that a windows box can see it
[09:51] <vcolombo> posted 23 minutes ago
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba
[09:51] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:51] <offby1> yay, 403 problem is fixed
[09:51] <TiG4> **--- If I want to start a process, lets say ./unreal, as user ircd when the computer starts up, how would I do so---***
[09:51] <miked595> mcd there is a kernel mod you can do so windows can read and write to linux partitions.. is that what you want?
[09:52] <nattfodd> mcd: windows can e.g. read/write to ext3
[09:52] <mcd> miked595, No I'm trying to trying to transfer files to a windows box from my Ubuntu
[09:53] <eri--> orbin, any idea about it?
[09:53] <freesun> !search replicator
[09:53] <vcolombo> mcd - just search for penguinet and use it's graphical scp if you're just trying to transfer one or two files
[09:53] <miked595> mcd, you can setup a samba share
[09:53] <TiG4> **--- If I want to start a process, lets say ./unreal, as user ircd when the computer starts up, how would I do so---***
[09:53] <orbin> eri--: searching the error now
[09:53] <eri--> oh
[09:54] <vcolombo> install it on your windows box and connect to your ubuntu box
[09:54] <freesun> !replicator
[09:54] <ubotu> replicator: automate new computer installations in a networked site.. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-sarge-1.5 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 396 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:54] <vcolombo> provided you have openssh-server installed
[09:54] <miked595> mcd, you can use this program on windows http://ftp.ssh.com/pub/ssh/ and ssh to your ubuntu box and use it's scp feature
[09:55] <miked595> mcd, as vcolombo is say lol
[09:55] <miked595> saying
[09:55] <dwight7001> Could someone point me in the right direction for suspend and hibernate documentation?
[09:55] <dwight7001> I recently upgraded my kernel to the 686 SMP one and suspend seemingly broke
[09:55] <orbin> eri--: maybe try opening synaptic and doing: edit > fix broken
[09:55] <mcd> miked595, Thanks
[09:56] <dan_kent> ncd: make a share a folder on your windows box and then places>network servers and browsde to the share
[09:56] <eri--> orbin, sorry for my ignorance but what is synaptic?
[09:57] <orbin> eri--: package manager ... in the sys > admin menu
[09:57] <skybot> http://www.packetnews.com/index.php?channel_id=5494
[09:57] <pitti> ok, new kernel and lrm is up, nvidia should now work again
[09:57] <JackONeill> Hey I just installed xubunu on my other machine, it got past the usplash bit okay and then it just hung on a blank screen... I'm guessing it's just before X.... what gives?
[09:57] <Ricesteam> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 now, and i want to try out xfce without booting/installing Xubuntu. What packages do I need to install?
[09:57] <knapper> Hi, does anyoen here use USP (Ubuntu System Panel)?
[09:57] <JackONeill> knapper, what is it? sounds cool
[09:57] <Tonren> how do I turn ubuntu into a wireless router...?
[09:57] <DBO> knapper, yes whats wrong?
[09:58] <orbin> eri--: or the equivalent command: apt-get install -f
[09:58] <eri--> orbin, as it seems i dont have it installed at all and it does nothing as an option?!
[09:58] <knapper> JackONeill It's a third party project, you can check it on the ubuntuforums.org site
[09:58] <freesun> anyone knows where to look for if I need to find out what LPT->USB and RS232->USB to buy so it works in Linux?
[09:58] <eri--> orbin, oh forcing it to install :)
[09:58] <knapper> DBO, just wondering how to get the text buttons up the side instead of icons
[09:58] <orbin> eri--: no ... -f attempts to fix broken IIRC
[09:58] <asmo674hurt> How to edit (save edited) pictures in usr/share/... directory?
[09:58] <eri--> no luck :(
[09:59] <knapper> DBO every image preview I see of it has nice cool text buttons instead of the icon buttons
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> freesun:  you might check the !hardware list
[09:59] <freesun> !hardware
[09:59] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:59] <JackONeill> Hey I just installed xubunu on my other machine, it got past the usplash bit okay and then it just hung on a blank screen... I'm guessing it's just before X.... what gives?
[10:00] <freesun> jack_sparrow: how? !hardware lookingforthis?
[10:00] <DBO> knapper, those images are out of date
[10:00] <dan_kent> ricestream: search for xfce in synaptice and install xfce4, xfce4-goodies and hit apply
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: Which install.. alt cd or live?
[10:00] <DBO> knapper, the next version will allow you to choose
[10:01] <knapper> DBO ok great, thanks
[10:01] <orbin> eri--: dunno sorry.  try hitting the forum ... seems like a dependency issue
[10:01] <asmo674hurt> How to edit (save edited) pictures in usr/share/... directory?
[10:01] <eri--> orbin, thx anyway
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> freesun: You question was not clear, I assumed it was some type of converter translator?  Provide more info.. see who can answer
[10:01] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, alt text install xubuntu to hdd
[10:02] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, this is after the reboot when it should load system for first time
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: Did you try the livecd?
[10:02] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, nope
[10:03] <JackONeill> the livecd install pisses me off too much
[10:03] <jbroome> what?
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: It also tells you of hardware problems..
[10:04] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, theres nothing new enough about this machine to warrent any incompatibility issues - and besides i remember debian working on here a while back fine
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: Laptop... ati video?  USB devices plugged in?
[10:04] <haploid_> what apt package contains update-rc.d ?
[10:04] <freesun> Jack_Sparrow : I think best solution would be port replicator from Fujitsu-Siemens made originally for my notebook (Amilo Pro V2065), but I assume it would not work under linux unless some special driver was developed (which I find unlikely) I need to convert signals from LPT and RS232 to usb, as there are no LPT or RS232 ports on my notebook, and I need it quite a lot... there is no way buying new plotter and PH meter ;)
[10:04] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, no USB, a v.old ati card so just the normal ati driver... a desktop pc
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: I only use Ub and tried Kb....  But try seeing if usb 2 is enabled in cmos and disable or slow it down to 1.1, there are some grub options to try as well..
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off acpi = no (Solves no mouse problem) pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[10:07] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, like i said... this PC aint new enough for that stuff... no USB2!
[10:07] <user-land> i installed ubuntu 6.06.1 now and ran easyubuntu, but still when i insert a dvd totem opens but then says the necessary plugins are not installed ...
[10:07] <lmosher> Is there a program for ubuntu that will let me 'sleep' for less than 1 second?
[10:07] <erUSUL_> !dvd
[10:07] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: We strongly discourage the use of Easyubuntu and Automatix because it causes problems...
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: Several people this hour alone,  any support in Automatix or easyubuntu...?
[10:09] <anon32> libdvdcss is legal and unpatented isn't it?
[10:09] <spiderworm> i updated my kernel and now the nvidia module wont load --- dmesg shows nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol boot_cpu_data ... nvidia: Unknown symbol boot_cpu_data
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !libdvdcss
[10:09] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:10] <anon32> um, that's not what I asked
[10:10] <spiderworm> anyone else having a similar problem?
[10:10] <larry> I'm new to this - never used IRC before - appears somewhat strange
[10:10] <anon32> larry: mm, IRC is just your average chat room
[10:10] <quiet> larry, it's just like an AOL chatroom. :)
[10:10] <JackONeill> filled with lots of crap
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> larry: sort of like the floor at the stock exchange...
[10:11] <larry> OK I think I understand the meaning of a 'chat-room'
[10:11] <gean> i have huge problems to live see or install ubuntu on my laptop... no floppy, CD-ROM is nor recognized... where can i get ``analogous errors'' listed ?! The live CD runs into Mounting root FS, then gives me the black screen... The alternate CD gives me thechance to type something, but definitively does not recognize my CD-ROM. It says something about my CD-ROM, but i cannot even figure our (ignoance..), where my CD-ROM is mounted in... Any idfea
[10:11] <gean>  ?!
[10:11] <JackONeill> ok Jack_Sparrow ... I just booted in recovery mode which worked fine till i ran startx..... it said summat then went blank screen on me again
[10:11] <miked595> channel damn it
[10:11] <miked595> lol
[10:12] <larry> threw out AOL years ago
[10:12] <quiet> that's great, everyone should.
[10:12] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: nvidia driver crapping out on you?
[10:12] <csp> could anyone maybe help me understand how to resolve broken packages (from console)?
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> JackONeill: I dont have an answer..
[10:12] <user-land> jack_sparrow, thank you. so that changed ... a month ago advice about them was split here ...
[10:12] <jmoncayo> can i run ubuntu with livecd and set up an nfs server?
[10:12] <Therac-25> gean - this may help you to find your cdrom  "mount"  or "sudo fdisk -l" l=list
[10:12] <quiet> anon32, there is no big deal.
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: nope nvidia is working fine.. are you running 386, 686 ?
[10:12] <spiderworm> i mean, JackONeill , is the nvidia driver crapping out on you?
[10:12] <JackONeill> Jack_Sparrow, But your jack sparrow... surely Jack Sparrow is more the hero can Col. Jack O Neill!
[10:13] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: 686
[10:13] <anon32> there is if you say "everyone should throw it out"
[10:13] <freesun> Jack_Sparrow: do you know where to find info on port replicators? which should work under windows?
[10:13] <JackONeill> spiderworm, no nvidia!
[10:13] <quiet> anon32, the only reason to have AIM is because many friends or contacts may have it... i prefer Y! msgr or googletalk
[10:13] <jmoncayo> ?
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> freesun: Just google..
[10:13] <larry> God, this moves fast - how can anyone follow what goes on!
[10:13] <user-land> jack_sparrow, what do you recommend instead ?
[10:14] <anon32> quiet: mm, I prefer IRC
[10:14] <quiet> larry, don't try... try to follow a single conversation and you might be okay... mny channels are not as large as #ubuntu either.
[10:14] <quiet> anon32, as do I... i was simply making a point.
[10:14] <StarQuake> i like jabber
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: please rephrase your question, there is alot going on..
[10:14] <larry> if I ask a specific question - how do I get an answer
[10:14] <anon32> mm, actually, trillain seems to reject Y! connections
[10:14] <Therac-25> A year ago this room had only 800+ users. - today it is empty at 800 users
[10:14] <quiet> isn't trillian for windows?
[10:15] <quiet> or do they have a linux client too?
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> 930 now
[10:15] <csp> oh man, package management drives me crazy in every distro! :| How am I expected to pick on of >300 suggestions from aptitude?
[10:15] <anon32> quiet: yes indeed, I don't have the disk space to delete my windows install
[10:15] <user-land> jack_sparrow, is there a single source of info for making a fresh ubuntu install fully multimedia-capable ?
[10:15] <spiderworm> csp: cross reference the aptitute suggestions with google
[10:15] <quiet> anon32, that makes no sense.
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: Single source.. no...
[10:15] <anon32> user-land: wha? it's apt-get install mplayer
[10:15] <quiet> anon32, i don't have space to delete...
[10:15] <quiet> ?
[10:15] <quiet> lol
[10:15] <larry> i'm lost! Bye
[10:15] <anon32> quiet: or actually, I don't have space to dualboot
[10:16] <quiet> anon32, ah! okay, now i understand.
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: Too many pieces and options, flash, mp3, mpeg, quicktime, realplayer...
[10:16] <Therac-25> anon32 - gparted includes ntfsresize gparted is part of the ubuntu live cd installation disk. - there is also a handy live cd on the web with only gparted.
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted > user-land
[10:16] <csp> spiderworm: but I can't even figure out what the core of the problem is. I mean, it's just dapper being but after the latest kernel upgrade it's just going crazy.
[10:16] <Minty> hello all, would like to try out xfce can anyone give me the correct code line to insall it
[10:16] <anon32> mm, I'd just backup and wipe my ntfs partition, but I don't a hard drive and 30G of DVDs seems like a bad idea
[10:17] <spiderworm> csp: what sort of things are going wrong?
[10:17] <anon32> therac-25: again... not what I asked...
[10:17] <mark> has anyone ever played with partman preseeding in automated installs?
[10:17] <mark> seems like it ignores everything I specify wrt partitioning :(
[10:17] <jake1> is there a utility for Ubuntu that i can use to make bootable CDs
[10:17] <jake1> ?
[10:17] <docgnome> does anyone know of a program that does internet call waiting for ubuntu? i've a dialup connection and would like to be able to see when someone is trying to call me while I'm online...
[10:17] <user-land> jack_sparrow and anon32, thank you. do you remember ubuntu guide ? that was great ...
[10:17] <jake1> i am downloading the .iso image for another computer
[10:17] <vcolombo> Minty - you might just want to try downloading the Xubuntu livecd
[10:18] <miked595> 30 Gigs of dvs.. that's like only 7 dvds
[10:18] <csp> spiderworm: well one prominant thing is that it seem to want to remove mythbrowser.
[10:18] <anon32> jake1: find try k3b for kubuntu, and... dunno for ubuntu
[10:18] <spiderworm> csp: hmmm odd
[10:18] <csp> (because of a dependancy on kdelibs4c2a )
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: you just want to take an iso.. of a bootable system and burn it so it will boot?
[10:18] <anon32> miked595: but several hours to burn with this old dvd drive, and several more for md5 sum checks
[10:18] <tuxub> k3b works on ubuntu too
[10:19] <spiderworm> csp: im having nvidia driver problems after the kernel upgrade i just performed
[10:19] <tuxub> you can try gnomebaker too, i don't know if it creates bootable media
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> k3b is great...
[10:19] <Minty> vcolombo: why the xbuntu  live CD when I want to try the xfce ??
[10:19] <miked595> anon32, burn baby burn
[10:19] <jake1> Jack_Sparrow: no i am downloading another Install disk for Ubuntu, and i wanted to burn it so i can install it to another computer
[10:19] <spiderworm> csp: what kernel version are you running?
[10:19] <anon32> mm...
[10:19] <Tonren> how do I turn ubuntu into a wireless router...?
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: Are you running 386, 686 ?
[10:19] <miked595> anon32, start burning overnight it'll be done in the morning
[10:19] <anon32> oh yea, I need the gcc to compile my modem drivers too...
[10:19] <csp> spiderworm: i'm now running 2.6.15-26-386
[10:19] <anon32> :-\
[10:19] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: 686 for the second time
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: right click the iso and burn baby burn
[10:20] <vcolombo> Minty - that's what Xubuntu is... Ubuntu core with xfce instead of Gnome
[10:20] <spiderworm> csp: im running the same version but 686
[10:20] <spiderworm> csp: did you update it today?
[10:20] <vcolombo> Minty - good way to try it without modifying your system
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: Busy channel, sorry I missed it.. It does seem to be a problem on the 686 and not the 386
[10:20] <Dynamite> Hi Guys, I know that you've been asked this question a million times but when will ubuntu Edgy Knot 3 be released? (I know it's today but when exactly?)
[10:20] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: no problem
[10:20] <H080J03> something
[10:21] <csp> spiderworm: yeah, i did update and that seems to be the problem. I got the kernel update and "apt-get upgrade" didn't complain
[10:21] <freesun> anyone knoes polish here?
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: Do you have the 386 installed as well?  I have both, I may boot into the 686 to se if there is a problem there.
[10:21] <freesun> I found some quite rare info and it is in polish
[10:21] <csp> spiderworm: but I just happened to run aptitude and now it says "Broken #39", which doesn't sound goog
[10:21] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: yes, i do
[10:21] <jake1> can one run KDE on Xubuntu
[10:21] <quiet> sure, instal it
[10:21] <xCling> Im runing TeamSpeak now and no one can hear me on the ts server so I check the settings and now I wounder were is the "Sound driver" now on deffoult it say "/dev/dsp" and I dont have anny drivers there
[10:21] <spiderworm> csp: the vengence of god is upon you
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: It is just a thought that you check that..
[10:21] <StarQuake> gonna clean up here and go to bed
[10:21] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: sure, i'll try 386
[10:21] <user-land> anon32, mplayer says: could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[10:22] <Minty> vcolombo: Ok thanks will do
[10:22] <vcolombo> Minty - otherwise you can do sudo apt-get install xfwm4
[10:22] <anon32> user-land: hmm, you need to find the drivers for your audio device
[10:22] <vcolombo> Minty - but I'd highly recommend Xubuntu, it's actually what I run on both my desktop and laptop now
[10:22] <iceman24k> ok, how can i stop Gnome and get to a runlevel where i can reconfigure the screen resolution via xserver-xorg
[10:22] <user-land> anon32 i had sound earlier today.
[10:22] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: do you have any idea when fixed kernel packages will be coming out?
[10:22] <user-land> skype was working.
[10:22] <csp> spiderworm: yeah, this is way over my head anyway.. but suggestions even include "cancel the removal off grub"  and "Downgrade linux-image..." things I don't really feel like on my headless server :)
[10:22] <anon32> user-land: weird... well, can't help you further
[10:23] <anon32> try looking in the config though
[10:23] <user-land> can i try shutting down the sound server ?
[10:23] <NthDegree> user-land: you have been using unsupported software like skype what do ya expect :p
[10:23] <MattJ> Dink: Around?
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: I saw someone make a change to the topic earlier about a security fix..
[10:23] <gean> Therac-25: thanks fo the help, mount says something about: tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw), however ls /dev/tmpfs gives me the message: ls: /dev/tmpfs: No such file or directory...
[10:23] <quiet> user-land, /etc/init.s/alsa stop
[10:23] <quiet> or restart
[10:23] <quiet> init.d **
[10:23] <user-land> nthdegree are you serious ?
[10:23] <iceman24k> i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but the resolutions do not appear, keeps telling me i have to be root, but i need user runlevel
[10:23] <jake1> i'm trying to determine if i want Xubuntu or Ubuntu for my P3 machine
[10:23] <jake1> it's old
[10:23] <jake1> kinda slow
[10:23] <NthDegree> user-land: skype is unsupported BS I believe
[10:23] <huats> does anybody have an idea why when I try to get an IP with dhcp, typing dhclient works whereas dhclient3 always fails ? the thing is that dhclient -> dhclient3
[10:24] <anon32> hmm, I wonder how msn messenger works...
[10:24] <jake1> so i was leaning towards Xubuntu
[10:24] <jake1> what do you guys think
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[10:24] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:24] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: im getting the nvidia log screen with the 386 kernel... i guess i can live with the slowness for a bit
[10:24] <jake1> what are the down sides of using xubuntu vs. ubuntu
[10:24] <iceman24k> whats the "text" runlevel
[10:24] <^tiNee^> how do i switch from one chan to another in bitchx?
[10:24] <Dynamite> when will ubuntu Edgy Knot 3 be released? (I know it's today but when exactly?) Thanks in advance
[10:24] <spiderworm> jake1: it defaults to xfce... some people might like that, but i would hate it
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> spiderworm: I know it isnt a solution... but at least you know where the problem is.. Sorry again for not seeing your answer to my question..
[10:25] <user-land> quiet: bash: /etc/init.s/alsa: No such file or directory
[10:25] <gean> Therac-25: also, being in the process of puttin' that linux on the HD, there is no fdisk recognized (from #, that i get through ALT-F2..)
[10:25] <jake1> spiderworm: why?
[10:25] <gean> i have huge problems to live see or install ubuntu on my laptop... no floppy, CD-ROM is nor recognized... where can i get ``analogous errors'' listed ?! The live CD runs into Mounting root FS, then gives me the black screen... The alternate CD gives me thechance to type something, but definitively does not recognize my CD-ROM. It says something about my CD-ROM, but i cannot even figure our (ignoance..), where my CD-ROM is mounted in... Any idfea
[10:25] <gean>  ?!
[10:25] <anon32> what's with the ridiculous names? can't we have ubuntu, and ubuntu-beta?
[10:25] <quiet> user-land, i said init.d
[10:25] <jake1> what's so different about it
[10:25] <NthDegree> user-land: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa stop
[10:25] <spiderworm> Jack_Sparrow: no problem! thanks for your help
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:25] <NthDegree> user-land: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start  <--- once you've stopped it
[10:25] <user-land> quiet i pasted your command. thanks.
[10:25] <NthDegree> user-land: sudo /etc/init.d/esd restart
[10:26] <^tiNee^> can someoen tell me how to switch from one chan to another in bitchx please
[10:26] <MattJ> jake1: I'm using Xubuntu... I love it
[10:26] <salim> My notebook has keys (Fn+Up/Down) to change volume, but I cant use them on (X)ubuntu - how can I change that?
[10:26] <anon32> oh, um, do you have to register with aol to create an AIM account?
[10:26] <Dynamite> anon32, Yes
[10:26] <quiet> yeah.. but not the pay-for service.
[10:27] <anon32> mm...
[10:27] <quiet> it's free registraton...aim.aol.com
[10:27] <user-land> nthdegree: sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa: command not found
[10:27] <quiet> hehehe
[10:27] <jake1> MattJ how different is it from Ubuntu
[10:27] <mike_> quit
[10:27] <TimothyP> Hello, I have found a serious security hole
[10:27] <jake1> can it run the KDE interface as well?
[10:27] <TimothyP> http://www.blicbox.be/distro-s/ubuntu/nieuws/gevaarlijke-bug-in-ubuntu-met-xgl-compiz/ --> if you look at the picture you'll see what I mean
[10:27] <anon32> mm, what's ICQ?
[10:27] <NthDegree> anon32, use gaim when you've registered :)
[10:27] <quiet> jake1, yes... just install it.
[10:27] <MattJ> It is Ubuntu, just with Xfce, instead of GNOME or KDE
[10:27] <anon32> nthdegree: meh, already have a client
[10:27] <quiet> anon32, one of the original messaging platforms.
[10:27] <anon32> and it's not aim
[10:27] <MattJ> I guess it can run KDE< you just have to install KDE :)
[10:27] <TimothyP> what I do is I make xgl crash and then restart the xserver and I get access to all the files of the previous user
[10:27] <quiet> anon32, it uses random numbers.
[10:28] <NthDegree> anon32: I said GAIM NOT AIM
[10:28] <anon32> quiet: yea, probably a good idea
[10:28] <jake1> so there is no big difference between xubuntu vs. Kubuntu
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> TimothyP: Like I NEEDED another reason to not use Compiz
[10:28] <jake1> ?
[10:28] <user-land> nthdegree: sudo: /etc/init.d/esd: command not found
[10:28] <quiet> anon32, like.. your ICQ account will be something like...  76893948
[10:28] <synjet> hey, did anybody have probs with flash on FF where music slows down (the stretchy feeling)? syncing prob where sound is awefully behind
[10:28] <NthDegree> 1 sec user-land
[10:28] <MattJ> jake1: No, not that I know
[10:28] <anon32> nthdegree: I heard you... I said I don't have aim
[10:28] <quiet> synjet, yes.. always has been.
[10:28] <synjet> quiet: any fixes you recommend?
[10:28] <anon32> zz... I bet I'll need flash and adblock to register...
[10:29] <NthDegree> anon32: gaim can do yahoo, MSN and of course ICQ too :p
[10:29] <quiet> synjet, not really :(  macromedia does NOT <3 linux.
[10:29] <imc_> RUnning Dapper and I think I clobbered my HAL- certainly my machine can't hibernate any more. How cann i reinstall?
[10:29] <anon32> nthdegree: well, I already have trillain (yes, I AM on a windows box)
[10:29] <NthDegree> quiet, macromedia did but adobe purchased them so macromedia is no more
[10:29] <synjet> quiet: :( damn! and this prob is new.. never had such prob before..
[10:29] <quiet> NthDegree, i'm aware...  adobe is more linux friendly than macromedia though.
[10:29] <MattJ> Not Trillian? :O
[10:29] <NthDegree> anon32: wtf you on windows for :p WE HAVE A SINNER IN THE HIZOUSE
[10:29] <freesun> timothy: you don't have to be logged on before crashing compiz and then get to home dir of other users?
[10:30] <user-land> adobe, i nice robber baron fit for macromedia ...
[10:30] <MattJ> Too right we do
[10:30] <NthDegree> quiet, not true adobe flash hasn't been updated in yonks
[10:30] <MattJ> He should be using Miranda IM
[10:30] <MattJ> :D
[10:30] <pantaloon> can someone tell me how to run a command automatically when x/gnome loads?
[10:30] <quiet> NthDegree, flash 9 is working on linux.
[10:30] <anon32> nthdegree: because I can't resize a 90% used partition and still run a working computer
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> TimothyP: THat link is not real useful
[10:30] <NthDegree> and yes it is ADOBE flash NOT macromedia flash XD
[10:30] <quiet> it's not officially released.. but it's working.
[10:30] <anon32> and because I don't own this computer
[10:30] <quiet> read the developers blog.
[10:30] <MattJ> More reason to use Miranda :)
[10:31] <anon32> nthdegree: personally, I don't like calling it adobe flash... it makes me think I paid $$$ for it
[10:31] <imc_> Asked a different way: what applications control hibernate/restore
[10:31] <imc_> ?
[10:31] <quiet> imc_, suspend2
[10:31] <imc_> thanks, quier
[10:31] <quiet> wtf
[10:31] <quiet> rofl
[10:31] <NthDegree> I do anon32, makes me feel rich ^.^
[10:31] <pantaloon> when i press shift-backspace x reloads itself and i need 'xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us' to run everytime x loads to fix it
[10:31] <imc_> s/quier/quiet
[10:31] <quiet> queer!?
[10:31] <imc_> No no
[10:31] <quiet> ;)
[10:31] <H080J03> what happened to aotumatix?
[10:31] <imc_> though that was a funny fat finger, eh?
[10:31] <anon32> can someone give me a random US zip code
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> People, time for me to get some work done...  Play nice...
[10:31] <pantaloon> anyoneanyone?
[10:32] <quiet> indeed.
[10:32] <quiet> anon32, 61115
[10:32] <imc_> 11201 anon32
[10:32] <anon32> thanks
[10:32] <mike> LEAVE
[10:32] <quiet> 11201?  east coaster!
[10:32] <TimothyP> Jack_Sparrow Compiz is what linux needs to get the end users, besides it improves my productivity
[10:32] <TimothyP> anyway
[10:32] <panegi> hello, some of you may remember me from yesterday. i want to install ubuntu on my computer but the problem is that my harddrive is NTFS. i want to know how to switch it to fat32, i dont care what kind of data i lose becuase i had planned on running DBAN before i went about installing it.
[10:32] <root___> is there a way to get interactive startup (like in fedora) in ubuntu? i need to disable a bunch of services that are timing out on boot
[10:32] <anon32> mike: wha?
[10:32] <imc_> quiet is suspend2 hat comes with Ubuntu out of the box?
[10:32] <user-land> thanks, Jack_Sparrow.
[10:32] <TimothyP> http://bugs.compiz.net/view.php?id=100
[10:32] <CurtisH> Question, When i do a netstat, I get a few wierd UDP connections, anyone tell me how to track these down, and disconnect them?
[10:32] <imc_> quiet that was of course, ubunto dapper
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> user-land: glad to help...
[10:32] <imc_> why can't I type today?!
[10:33] <ladydoor> panegi: in that case, yo ushould probably use a format other than fat, such as ext3
[10:33] <red_> i want an extended desktop on my laptop, how do i do it
[10:33] <panegi> whats the difference?
[10:33] <anon32> mm, time to crapflood, I bet they'll ban me at the ip level though
[10:33] <Neo8750> umm
[10:34] <Neo8750> pastebin!
[10:34] <anon32> ?
[10:34] <MattJ> anon32: What are you up to? o_O
[10:34] <anon32> I'm gonna crapflood AIM chat rooms
[10:34] <panegi> oh
[10:34] <Neo8750> oh
[10:34] <gean> i'm exasperated: no chance to put ubuntu on laptop! the live+install cd runs into blackscreen+error-message, the alternate one cannot detect CD-ROM! where can i better report such stuff?!
[10:34] <Neo8750> that bored?
[10:34] <quiet> imc_, i'm not sure how ubuntu has ti configured... i'm used to setting it up from scratch on Arch...  Ubuntu just 'worked' so ididn't have to touch the config.
[10:34] <anon32> lol, nobody cares?
[10:34] <panegi> how do i switch it to something like fat32 or ext3 though?
[10:35] <rylasasin> um any idea on how to get wine 0.9.21?
[10:35] <anon32> panegi: format the partition
[10:35] <panegi> thats it?
[10:35] <anon32> rylasasin: err, apt-get install wine
[10:35] <quiet> panegi, ntfs cannot be converted to fat32 or ext
[10:35] <panegi> after you format it doesnt matter?
[10:35] <anon32> I think
[10:35] <quiet> fat can be converted to ntfs, but no vice versa
[10:35] <panegi> im going to nuke the drive anyway quiet
[10:35] <quiet> good plan.
[10:35] <panegi> i just want to be sure ubuntu will install before i do
[10:36] <rylasasin> it says its the latest version, but when I use wine --version it says 9.20, not 9.21
[10:36] <gean> ok, have to look for something installable first and try ubuntu after that...
[10:36] <glenn_steen> panegi: If it runs the live cd chances are it'll install
[10:36] <anon32> hmm, #eminem sounds like a good target
[10:36] <panegi> the ubuntu installer will format the drive for me, right?
[10:36] <red_> yes
[10:36] <anon32> does anyone know if they'll ban me at the ip level?
[10:36] <gean> may the spirit of ubuntu be with u! bye all!
[10:36] <synjet> panegi: yes
[10:36] <red_> how do i get the extended desktop to work on my notebook
[10:36] <panegi> alright
[10:37] <panegi> anon
[10:37] <panegi> everyone does that
[10:37] <panegi> on aim
[10:37] <anon32> darn
[10:37] <panegi> were you talking about aim or irc?
[10:37] <anon32> panegi: aim, lol
[10:37] <panegi> ive never seen anyone banned from aim
[10:37] <panegi> have at it
[10:37] <anon32> haha... every channel is just a bunch of bots
[10:38] <panegi> exactly
[10:38] <panegi> nobody will read what you say
[10:38] <anon32> [16:37]  Roro1love: 18/f/fl lets chat
[10:38] <Caplain> is grub-install on the livecd?
[10:38] <jake1> CRAP
[10:38] <jake1> just got locked out of the server room
[10:38] <jake1> with my keys inside
[10:38] <jake1> GOD DAMN IT
[10:38] <synjet> Caplain: it gives you a choice: if you want to write to MBR or have your GRUB
[10:39] <panegi> so if i want to format my whole drive and not worry about partitions the ubuntu installer will do all that for me?
[10:39] <jake1> i am sooooooo writing a strongly worded letter
[10:39] <panegi> sorry to sound paranoid
[10:39] <panegi> i just dont like the idea of playing russian roullette with my pc
[10:39] <anon32> hmm, auto-kicked?
[10:40] <Caplain> synjet, i moved my install to a different hdd and the partition is past the 8GB mark on the new hdd
[10:40] <Caplain> ill muck with it
[10:40] <synjet> which is your primary OS?  I woulda thought at least one person wouldn't be a bot...
[10:43] <jake1> i see
[10:44] <jake1> do other players work?
[10:44] <salestodo555> how to change permissions for file wich owner is root?
[10:44] <jake1> you cnt
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> panegi: you can let it do it's own thing or you can manually partition
[10:44] <jake1> just use sudo salestodo555
[10:44] <jake1> i usually manually partition
[10:44] <grimx> no
[10:44] <Xal> Is it possible to make an ext3 partition with LInux on it larger without messing up the linux install?
[10:44] <grimx> can't hear anything
[10:44] <salestodo555> jakel. thanx
[10:44] <panegi> well i shouldnt have to partition should i?
[10:44] <panegi> im not setting it up to dualboot or anything like that
[10:45] <jake1> not unless you are also running another OS pangegi
[10:45] <grimx> volume on system is all the up
[10:45] <jake1> you may want a backup
[10:45] <panegi> just wiping it clean and installing linux
[10:45] <anon32> well.... the rooms are uselesss, guess I'll have to use peer-based crapflooding
[10:45] <TheGateKeeper> Xal: use gparted if you want to resize
[10:45] <asonjay99> hey, Can anyone tell me how i would go about changing preferances in mplayer
[10:45] <panegi> theres nothing important on here
[10:45] <jake1> grimx are your speakers plugged in?
[10:45] <grimx> yes
[10:45] <panegi> i can lose it all
[10:45] <jake1> lol
[10:45] <Xal> alright, thanks TheGateKeeper
[10:45] <anon32> asonjay99: do you have the gui?
[10:45] <jake1> then go for it
[10:45] <jake1> panegi
[10:45] <grimx> i can here the beep from ubuntu
[10:45] <asonjay99> anon32 yes
[10:45] <salestodo555> jake1, and then?
[10:45] <Xal> Can it deal with resizing NTFS volumes safely?
[10:45] <MattJ> panegi: That's the best way to do it :)
[10:46] <grimx> when i click sumthin
[10:46] <MattJ> The installation is really easy
[10:46] <panegi> heh
[10:46] <jake1> salestodo555: and then what?
[10:46] <anon32> xal: it can, but there's a risk
[10:46] <anon32> don't resize it too much or you'll regret it
[10:46] <TheGateKeeper> Xal: probable better than something like partition majic :-)
[10:46] <panegi> well im still a little paranoid about just diving headfirst into this linux thing
[10:46] <panegi> youll probably see me in here again tonight
[10:46] <MattJ> panegi: Why? :)
[10:46] <jake1> what do you need to change permissions on
[10:46] <jake1> if you change permissions you may corrupt your system
[10:46] <MattJ> Come back, have no fear :P
[10:47] <jake1> they are only given to root for a reason
[10:47] <panegi> the ubuntu live cd is the closest thing to linux ive ever used before
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> Xal: just download the iso burn it to CD reboot
[10:47] <Xal> Ah, so it's not harmful to resize an ext3 volume then? I haven't used Linux in a while, not since last summer, and then I was told it could mess up the isnstallation.
[10:47] <jake1> if you need to something just login under root
[10:47] <asonjay99> anon32: the problem is that i installed a soundcard and now it says that thre is a problem with alsa control
[10:47] <panegi> im just tired of everyone else who uses my pc filling it up with adware and crap
[10:47] <jake1> or use 'sudo'
[10:47] <MattJ> panegi: Exactly :)
[10:47] <klhrevolutionist> What do I need to install in order to compile ?
[10:47] <anon32> panegi: err, user account control and disk quotas should fix that
[10:47] <jake1> yea microsoft is famous for adware and crap like that
[10:48] <anon32> to be honest, adware is the fault of the user and not the operating system
[10:48] <Xal> TGK: the ISO of ubuntu? I've already got that installed. I only allocated 20gb for the partition, and I want to add a bit to it.
[10:48] <jake1> klhrevolutionist: what are you compiling
[10:48] <Xal> anon32, I agree.
[10:48] <panegi> yeah
[10:48] <jake1> using build-essentials
[10:48] <TheGateKeeper> Xal: I used it to resized an Arch installation, and have just put a gentoo base system on it
[10:48] <overshard> klhrevolutionist, install gcc
[10:48] <Xal> I don't have any problems with it, at all.
[10:48] <klhrevolutionist> I want to compile aria2c
[10:48] <jake1> or gcc
[10:48] <panegi> but they cant even just use firefox
[10:48] <panegi> goota be ie for them
[10:48] <TBay> whoa, lots of people here
[10:48] <Xal> alright, I'll try it out.
[10:48] <Xal> Thanks.
[10:48] <panegi> its really been bogging my pc down lately
[10:48] <TheGateKeeper> yw :-)
[10:48] <jake1> wow yea there are a lot of ppl here
[10:48] <jake1> good to see
[10:48] <klhrevolutionist> http://aria2.sourceforge.net/
[10:48] <anon32> say, I hear that the gcc compiles itself, how would that work?
[10:48] <TBay> hello, i am not an Ubuntu user just yet, waiting for the cd's through the mail, but i was using the LiveCD for awhile there
[10:48] <TBay> i have a question about something
[10:48] <jake1> it's good that ubuntu is getting this crowd
[10:49] <jake1> panegi: then use ubuntu
[10:49] <anon32> tbay: you can install using a livecd
[10:49] <MattJ> panegi: One thing, how do you connect to the internet?
[10:49] <jake1> lol
[10:49] <panegi> ethernet
[10:49] <red_> how do i get an extended desktop on my notebook
[10:49] <panegi> i already got that sorted out
[10:49] <MattJ> panegi: Great :D
[10:49] <overshard> klhrevolutionist, install gcc.... apt-get gcc; tar zxvf aria*; cd aria*; ./configure; make && make install
[10:49] <jake1> i use wireless and ethernet
[10:49] <MattJ> panegi: I wish I were you
[10:49] <jake1> not at the same time though
[10:49] <anon32> panegi: err, again, if you don't give people that use your computer admin, they can't f- it...
[10:49] <klhrevolutionist> overshard: thanks
[10:49] <ph8> hi all
[10:50] <anon32> not saying that ubuntu isn't better than win32 though
[10:50] <ph8> i'm trying to install ubuntu-server from the alternate edgy cd
[10:50] <TBay> heh, ok, well i knew the install from live, anyways, just curious if anyone experienced this and knows how to fix it, whenever view video files on Ubuntu i get flickers every mine or so
[10:50] <MattJ> anon32: Windows 2000 user, right?
[10:50] <jake1> anon32: true
[10:50] <panegi> ive reinstalled windows three times with these people
[10:50] <Shoiabsafdar> grimx: i feel yoy need to update adiuo codeces
[10:50] <asonjay99> hey, I recently Installed a new soundcard and now mplayer keeps coming up witht eh error "Alsa COntrol: Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0"....Anyone know what that means?
[10:50] <anon32> mattj: xp actually, but I've killed over half the services
[10:50] <ph8> i was hoping to get more drivers as my chipset doesn't seem to be supported and hence, my cdrom(dvd) drive isn't recognised during install - what options do i need to choose after it's booted
[10:50] <MattJ> Pity :|
[10:50] <ph8> i was told to put 'server' in the boot prompt, but i don't know how to get the boot prompt!
[10:50] <anon32> panegi: um, can you even hear me? file permissions...
[10:50] <jake1> but sometimes you cnt prevent adware when it comes to windows
[10:50] <MattJ> Dinner -->
[10:50] <jake1> sometimes shit happens
[10:50] <panegi> they wont be getting root access when i get linux either
[10:51] <erUSUL> !alternate > ph8
[10:51] <jake1> which is one thing i like about linux
[10:51] <ph8> what's OEM mode?
[10:51] <anon32> panegi: if your password is blank, they can just sudo
[10:51] <ph8> no 'live' session?
[10:51] <erUSUL> !oem
[10:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:51] <panegi> the sudo command works in ubuntu too right?
[10:51] <jake1> however i am kinda hoping that linux becomes alot more popular
[10:51] <panegi> or is that just debian
[10:51] <ph8> looks exactly the same as the previous install
[10:51] <jake1> will make it easier to use
[10:51] <erUSUL> panegi: of course
[10:51] <panegi> ill be giving it a password, trust me
[10:51] <erUSUL> !root > panegi
[10:51] <jake1> OEM is good sometimes if you only want to install part of the system
[10:51] <anon32> and by the way, win32 has a sudo port
[10:52] <jake1> and actually i only could use the alternate CD for some reason
[10:52] <ph8> erUSUL: It looks the same as previous installers
[10:52] <ph8> if i select 'install a server' the identical installer starts
[10:52] <asonjay99>  hey, I recently Installed a new soundcard and now mplayer keeps coming up witht eh error "Alsa COntrol: Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0"....Anyone know what that means?
[10:52] <ph8> same thing happens when i select text only
[10:52] <jake1> mostly cuz the resolution on the other CD did not work for my LCD screen
[10:52] <anon32> though to be honest, I never could get sudowin working..
[10:52] <panegi> last question
[10:52] <jake1> so i could use a text based installer on the OEM, and i could also adjust resolution on startup from the OEM
[10:52] <lmosher> I'm back to a question I had earlier. Is there any way to run a script after the mouse/keyboard have been idle for a certain ammount? I'm trying to replace the screensaver with something that runs in a script...
[10:52] <panegi> i give root a password and they cant even sudo, right?
[10:53] <ph8> what's OEM stand for?
[10:53] <anon32> panegi: sudo doesn't even involve root, it asks you for your own password
[10:53] <TBay> ugh, does anyone ever have any flickering when viewing video files while on Ubuntu OS?
[10:53] <anon32> !sudo
[10:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:53] <jake1> Original Equipment Manufacturer.
[10:53] <ph8> hmm
[10:53] <synjet> TBay: is it using mplayer-firefox plugins?
[10:53] <jake1> ph8 are you having a problem installing or something?
[10:53] <ph8> so i want to get more compatibility options to install ubuntu-server so it can detect my bloody dvd drive
[10:54] <ph8> it can't find my cd drive
[10:54] <TBay> Possibly, i don't remember exactly, i remember that i used gxine
[10:54] <ph8> although it's booting from it
[10:54] <jake1> :-\
[10:54] <anon32> the meaning of original equipment manufacturer can be strained though, it's legal to sell oem windows by bundling a usb extension with it
[10:54] <jake1> weird
[10:54] <klhrevolutionist> overshard: pm please ?
[10:54] <ph8> someone recommended using alternate because it might have more drivers (modules?) but i still only have none / cdrom in the list
[10:54] <erUSUL> ph8: do you have a jmicron pata chip ??
[10:54] <synjet> TBay: yes, it happens..
[10:54] <jake1> never had a problem with ubuntu finding my DVD drives
[10:54] <ph8> yes erUSUL
[10:54] <jake1> out of my 3 week experience
[10:54] <jake1> lol
[10:54] <anon32> zzz...
[10:54] <ph8> P5B motherboard
[10:54] <ph8> any idea how to fix?
[10:54] <TBay> that sucks, i wish that wouldn't happen
[10:55] <panegi> alright
[10:55] <panegi> i think ive figured it out
[10:55] <panegi> thanks
[10:55] <grimx_> i can hear sound from "cd player" but i can hear sound from online videos such as from googles video search
[10:55] <erUSUL> ph8: you have to pass the 'all-generic-ide' (iirc) parameter at boot promt
[10:55] <ph8> ok
[10:55] <ph8> any idea how to go about that? ;)
[10:55] <TBay> probably only downside of Ubuntu that i dont' like is you can't play Warcraft 3 (well you can but its a pain in the butt to setup) and the flickering with video files
[10:55] <jake1> grimx_ sounds like a codec issue then
[10:55] <anon32> OMG! there's actually a ##windows? I thought that redirected it a generic room..
[10:55] <jake1> what browser are you using?
[10:55] <grimx_> what should i do
[10:55] <grimx_> firefox
[10:56] <jake1> did you try switchfox
[10:56] <grimx_> if have realplayer and mplayer
[10:56] <jake1> actually.....
[10:56] <cpk2> TBay: I have never experienced problems with warcraft 3 on linux
[10:56] <jake1> it might not matter
[10:56] <synjet> grimx_ try this crude method: close FF, open processes, kill esd, then open FF again, and try viewing the flash video..
[10:56] <jake1> u using i386 x86
[10:56] <jake1> or i386 x86_64
[10:56] <grimx_> x86
[10:56] <jake1> ah
[10:56] <jake1> ok
[10:56] <TBay> heh, well i never got the darn thing to work cpk2, all that would end happening is the boot screen then crash, and i tried -opengl thing
[10:56] <jake1> hmmm
[10:57] <spiderworm> anyone here use knetworkmanager?
[10:57] <TBay> i am also terrible at the terminal commands with linux
[10:57] <erUSUL> ph8: when you boot from alternate cd at some point you should see a promt like this 'boot:' just type after that 'boot: all-generic-ide' and hit enter
[10:57] <TBay> not very linux smart here
[10:57] <TBay> haha
[10:57] <Oscar> what command do i use to change screen resolution from the command line? (This is on a server install.)  Thanks.
[10:57] <jake1> TBay well then you should learn to love the command prompt
[10:57] <grimx_> i can what video coming over the web just can't hear it
[10:57] <jake1> if you use Linux
[10:57] <ph8> erUSUL: It goes straight to the menu
[10:57] <ph8> which option should i be choosing from there?
[10:57] <jake1> u'll spend lots of time in there
[10:57] <synjet> Oscar: you would have to edit your xorg.conf file
[10:57] <TBay> heh, yeah, but i always screw something up in linux if i mess with it
[10:58] <ph8> should i be pressing 'F6' for extra options and entering it there?
[10:58] <jake1> ph8 for drivers
[10:58] <Oscar> thanks
[10:58] <jake1> what is in the extra options
[10:58] <user-land> how can i stop the ubuntu 6.06.1 sound server ?
[10:58] <synjet> Oscar: and then restart your X server
[10:58] <ph8> it says boot options
[10:58] <ph8> and has things like 'quiet' etc
[10:58] <jake1> user-land go to command line
[10:58] <asonjay99> how do i disable my onboard sound
[10:58] <quiet> shhh
[10:58] <jake1> and type in 'ps ax'
[10:59] <jake1> and then find out which task it is
[10:59] <ph8> from the main menu?
[10:59] <erUSUL> ph8: maybe (i instaled ubuntu back in the warty beta days and upgraded via inet all the way to dapper so it's been ages since i saw the instaler)
[10:59] <ph8> oh whoops
[10:59] <jake1> then type in 'kill <pid>'
[10:59] <ph8> didn't work just typing in all-generic-ide
[10:59] <jake1> you may need to use 'sudo' for that though
[10:59] <ph8> i'll try it with the boot in front of it
[10:59] <asonjay99> how do i disable my onboard sound
[10:59] <jake1> asonjay you could always blacklist your sound driver
[10:59] <jake1> i think
[10:59] <erUSUL> ph8: no the boot should be there just like the bash promt
[11:00] <asonjay99> jake1: and how would i do that?
[11:00] <ph8> nah
[11:00] <ph8> first thing i see is that menu
[11:00] <TBay> wow, there are A LOT of people in this chat, i just looked
[11:00] <jake1> well you can paypal me 200 USD and i'll do it for you
[11:00] <jake1> just kidding
[11:00] <jake1> ummm
[11:00] <jake1> !blacklist
[11:00] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[11:00] <TBay> haha
[11:00] <user-land> jake1, ps ax gives a long list ...
[11:00] <mikedep333> hey guys, does anyone know of a list of useful dpkg-reconfigure commands?
[11:00] <jake1> user-land yes those are processes
[11:00] <TBay> dang, i want 200$
[11:01] <mikedep333> or packages to reconfigure with that command rather
[11:01] <jake1> find which one points to sound
[11:01] <asonjay99> thnks
[11:01] <synjet> mikedep333: man
[11:01] <Spike1506> how do they call widgets for linux?
[11:01] <Spike1506> and what are some good widgets for linux?
[11:01] <TBay> oh i have a question, do they have a Dock system for linux at all?
[11:01] <jake1> brb... gotta close the computer labs
[11:01] <synjet> Spike1506: you mean sthing like desklets?
[11:01] <mikedep333> synjet: man what?
[11:02] <mikedep333> oh
[11:02] <mikedep333> the man command
[11:02] <jake1> TBay: let me guess... OS X user?
[11:02] <Spike1506> yeah synjet  thats what i mean
[11:02] <synjet> man <command> gies all the info
[11:02] <TBay> ha, nope Windows XP user, i just like Mac OS X
[11:02] <jake1> ah
[11:02] <synjet> Spike1506: apt-get install gdesklets
[11:02] <jake1> you may like the kde interface then
[11:02] <Spike1506> thanks synjet
[11:02] <synjet> Spike1506: then configure gdesklets as to the position, the applis
[11:02] <jake1> it's very windowsish
[11:02] <jake1> and you can configure the panel to act like the dock
[11:02] <TBay> I checked out the KDE through screen shots, it looks decent but like i said, Mac look is awesome
[11:03] <TBay> oh really?
[11:03] <jake1> as it would in OS X
[11:03] <TBay> hmmm
[11:03] <jake1> yea
[11:03] <TBay> is it easy to make it into KDE or hard?
[11:03] <ph8> grr
[11:03] <ph8> how do i get the boot prompt!
[11:03] <jake1> easy
[11:03] <jake1> just get it from synaptic
[11:03] <jake1> kde-common i think
[11:03] <TBay> alright, cause i am really dumb when it comes to linux
[11:03] <TBay> though i want to learn
[11:03] <jake1> something like that
[11:03] <TBay> alright sweet
[11:03] <jake1> brb... gotta close computer labs
[11:04] <TBay> k
[11:04] <mamat> hi, i cant talk to my parallel port :( any idea? i get a "invalid argument: /dev/parport0" on "dd if=/dev/parport0"
[11:04] <Spike1506> E: Couldn't find package gdesklets
[11:04] <jake1> when you restart TBay you need to select KDE in your session manager
[11:04] <erUSUL> ph8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:04] <synjet> Spike1506: hmmn maybe your repos have to be edited, coz it shows in my apt-cache search
[11:05] <reitzell> I messed up my sound. Is there a setup for sound that I can re-run like x86config or something?
[11:05] <synjet> !gdesklets > Spike1506
[11:05] <TBay> alright sweet, thanks jake1
[11:05] <ph8> ah just needed to press ESC!
[11:05] <Spike1506> ty
[11:05] <ph8> thanks erUSUL - lets try that ide fix
[11:05] <TBay> haha, has anyone here ever watched Revolution OS movie?
[11:05] <Spike1506> lol
[11:05] <Spike1506> can't visit that link
[11:05] <Spike1506> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[11:06] <erUSUL> ph8: no problem
[11:06] <ph8> right
[11:06] <synjet> TBay: yeah, it is nice
[11:06] <ph8> i type boot: all-generic ide
[11:06] <ladydoor> !dumb
[11:06] <ph8> or just all-generic-ide
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <ph8> and get 'Could not find kernel image :<options>'
[11:06] <TBay> awesome movie, made me realize just how defiant Linux users are against Windows haha
[11:06] <synjet> TBay: kinda cult status
[11:06] <TBay> synjet: yeah but it was a good movie still
[11:07] <Spike1506> gonna search on google
[11:07] <mrpheus> Is there a way to enable extra 3d and other effects in kde
[11:07] <ladydoor> ok, so i was able to find a LaTeX package that sets all the margins but the bottom one to an inch. Does anyone know of a way to set the bottom margin?
[11:07] <synjet> TBay: oh yeah.. but maybe they should have made it free to dload ;)
[11:07] <erUSUL> ph8: you do not need the boot  just put all-generic-ide at the en of the boot line as show in the pics (in the pics they append vga=771)
[11:07] <pitti> ladydoor: you can't
[11:07] <pitti> ladydoor: what you do is, you set the top margin and the text height
[11:07] <Vanique> NthDegree: here?
[11:08] <pitti> ladydoor: since latex knows the paper format, the bottom margin is just what's left
[11:08] <TBay> synjet:  Heh, well its not that hard to get a copy through torrent or any other means, but your right, it woudl've been sweet if they made it free movie
[11:08] <ladydoor> pitti: ah, sweet. thanks muchly; I'll try that!
[11:08] <NthDegree> yeppers :)
[11:08] <pitti> ladydoor: but really, you shouldn't set them manually; use the KOMAscript class
[11:08] <pitti> ladydoor: and use DIV=18 or so
[11:08] <ladydoor> pitti: what is KOMAscript?
[11:08] <pitti> ladydoor: scrartcl instead of article, and so on
[11:09] <Oscar> #quit
[11:09] <ladydoor> pitti: ok, but what does that mean/do?
[11:09] <pitti> ladydoor: with them, you can set \documentclass[DIV15] {scrreprt}, for example
[11:09] <grimx_> i have no w32codecs ,, its says not available
[11:09] <TBay> universe
[11:09] <TBay> and multiverse
[11:09] <TBay> i remember that crap
[11:09] <jake1> alrite i'm out
[11:09] <pitti> ladydoor: they are much better than the original article/book/etc. classes, more options and nicer formatting
[11:09] <jake1> i'll go online when i get home
[11:09] <grimx_> i used sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:09] <H080J03> does any one know of any good css editors for ubuntu?
[11:10] <jake1> but just killed the labs
[11:10] <runtime> hey why should someone move to ubuntu instead of windows?
[11:10] <jake1> and i want to get out of here for the day
[11:10] <TBay> later Jake1
[11:10] <jake1> runtime: stability
[11:10] <jake1> no viruses
[11:10] <salim> hi
[11:10] <ph8> i put in 'server all-generic-ide' after the boot: prompt erUSUL and it didn't work :/
[11:10] <jake1> no spyware
[11:10] <jpjacobs> runtime, ni viruses mallware
[11:10] <ph8> any other ideas?
[11:10] <jake1> no adware
[11:10] <jake1> sheesh i could go on and on
[11:10] <ladydoor> pitti: ah...so that will automagically set the environment?
[11:10] <pitti> jake1: but, first of all, freedom! :)
[11:10] <salim> how can I change the volume through the console (I need for lineakd)
[11:10] <jake1> FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOMM
[11:11] <ladydoor> salim: alsamixer
[11:11] <mrpheus> is k3b the best cd/dvd writing app in Linux
[11:11] <pitti> ladydoor: well, not automagically, but things like DIV are nice, since they allow you to control the layout without messing up typography standards
[11:11] <TBay> hey guys, curious about another thing, is it true Linux systems hardly get viruses/worms/tojans
[11:11] <jake1> yep
[11:11] <ph8> of course tbay
[11:11] <jpjacobs> mrpheus, at least the best i've seen
[11:11] <jake1> never seen a virus
[11:11] <pitti> TBay: nowadays, still yes
[11:11] <mrpheus> k cool
[11:11] <jake1> though i used Mac OS X and never got a virus
[11:11] <pitti> TBay: however, that's not really an intrinsic Linux feature
[11:11] <jake1> or anything
[11:11] <grimx_> where can i download win32codecs
[11:11] <ladydoor> pitti: pardon my ignorance, but I've only just started picking up LaTeX; what is DIV?
[11:11] <runtime> jake1, feature wise is what I really want to focus on
[11:12] <jake1> !restricted formats
[11:12] <pitti> TBay: it's mainly a matter of scale; attacking Win systems is much more attractive nowadays
[11:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:12] <jake1> !restricted formats >grimx
[11:12] <TBay> pitti: haha ok, explains why i need an antivirus for windows
[11:12] <jake1> grimx go there
[11:12] <jake1> !restricted formats
[11:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:12] <grimx_> where
[11:12] <salim> is there sth like alsamixer increasevolume?
[11:12] <jake1> runtime: free software
[11:12] <grimx_> freeformats??
[11:13] <pitti> TBay: well, of course some aspects in linux are just better designed
[11:13] <jake1> is a good feature
[11:13] <JackONeill> whats that command for listing IDE devices?
[11:13] <jake1> but if you are wanting to play shootem ups like HL2 and CSS
[11:13] <ladydoor> salim: alsamixer gives you a curses ui...plus there's always amixer
[11:13] <pitti> ladydoor: it's a special option of the scr* classes to calculate the borders and text width/height according to typography standards
[11:13] <jake1> then stick with winblows
[11:13] <TBay> yeah, heh, i feel like a newb on IRC and a Newb on Ubuntu info, but do i need to register my name on this channel at all?
[11:13] <RetLaw> Hi, I have a (probably stupid) question. I need to modify the aliases-file which is readonly. I tried "chmod +w aliases" but that isn't allowed. How can I modify the aliases-file ?
[11:13] <ladydoor> pitti: aha
[11:13] <pitti> ladydoor: please google for some documentation
[11:13] <JackONeill> lside ?
[11:14] <pitti> ladydoor: of course you can just use \textwidth and \textheight, that'll work as well
[11:14] <jake1> TBay you should
[11:14] <jake1> i do
[11:14] <jake1> i think it's a freenode thing though
[11:14] <pitti> ladydoor: but at least in Germany the scr* classes are very famous and they have high quality
[11:14] <jake1> not for this #
[11:14] <TBay> ok, how do i do such a thing jake1
[11:14] <ladydoor> pitti: good point...google's always a good idea
[11:14] <synjet> TBay: you are not required to
[11:14] <TBay> oh ok
[11:14] <jake1>  /msg nickserv register <password here> <e-mail address here>
[11:14] <Captain_Redbeard> Hey guys.... .deb specific question... How do I, after compiled something, make it in to a deb package?
[11:14] <mrpheus> i keep on getting failed writing errors when trying to write dvdr's, i suspect it's either faulty dvd's or my dvd writer has had it's day, only about 4/10 writes are successfull.
[11:14] <jake1> and then your done
[11:14] <jake1> then to sign in
[11:14] <TBay> ah alright, sweet
[11:14] <salim> please I'm noob, I'm getting crazy, HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!! I just want to increase/decrease volume in lineakd, for my notebook Fn-Key
[11:15] <salim> why do I have to waste 2hrs of my time for just such a simple thing
[11:15] <jake1>  /msg nickserv identify <password your registered here>
[11:15] <salim> I'm getting crazy
[11:15] <JackONeill> Pleaaase! What is the command for LISting IDE devices?
[11:15] <helloworld> Captain_Redbeard: the easiest way would be checkinstall
[11:15] <pitti> JackONeill: what do you have in mind?
[11:15] <JackONeill> lside ?
[11:15] <anon32> salim: go to #aol or stop typing in txt
[11:15] <jake1> peace out
[11:15] <jake1> going home
[11:15] <Captain_Redbeard> helloworld: ah, there is no such thing in the package system itself? ok, cheers man
[11:15] <ladydoor> salim: you want to set it up to use a key to increase/decrease volume?
[11:15] <salim> yes
[11:16] <Spike1506> i can't get those gdesklets to work :(
[11:16] <JackONeill> pitti, eh!?
[11:16] <Spike1506> installed gnome-common package already
[11:16] <Spike1506> still not working right
[11:16] <pitti> JackONeill: ls -l /dev/hd*? lspci? hal-device-manager?
[11:16] <graveson> where can i find the latest package for ffmpeg. the one that is part of dapper do not seem to support all codecs eg mp4 or mov
[11:16] <pitti> JackONeill: i. e. what do you want to know about your IDE devices?
[11:16] <RetLaw> Hi, I have a (probably stupid) question. I need to modify the aliases-file which is readonly. I tried "chmod +w aliases" but that isn't allowed. How can I modify the aliases-file ?
[11:16] <mrpheus> anyone know a similar app to dvdremake... for linux
[11:17] <lmosher> I've written a bash script that I want to run using xscreensaver. I've gotten this to MOSTLY work, when I run xscreensaver it runs my script, but UNDER a painted black window. How do I remove this window from within my script?
[11:17] <root_> RetLaw: Make sure you are sudo?
[11:17] <pitti> RetLaw: you need admin powers for that -> use sudo gedit or something
[11:17] <Blissex> lmosher: that window is the screensaver.
[11:17] <root_> RetLaw: --- sudo chmod 'mode' file.
[11:17] <Blissex> !restricted
[11:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:17] <RetLaw> shouls i use "sudo chmod +w aliases" ?
[11:17] <lmosher> Blissex, Perhaps, but I want it to go away :)
[11:17] <Blissex> graveson: look at the above links
[11:17] <synjet> lmosher: mind sharing the script?
[11:18] <pitti> RetLaw: no, please ignore root_, you should not ever make a file in /etc writable for you
[11:18] <Blissex> lmosher: then do not use the screensaver.
[11:18] <pitti> RetLaw: no, you should use sudo gedit /etc/aliases
[11:18] <H080J03> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 14 14:13:24 2006
[11:18] <ph8> erUSUL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249326&page=3 <-- well documented there
[11:18] <H080J03> what does that mean?
[11:18] <lmosher> Blissex, um? my script runs as the screensaver UNDER this window. synjet. THe script rotates my compiz cube, I want to use that as the screensaver
[11:18] <kroog> hello
[11:18] <lmosher> and the cube does rotate, just under Xscreensaver's stupid black window that I can't seem to override in the options.
[11:18] <ph8> if i'm setting up to boot from usb disk
[11:18] <pitti> RetLaw: sudo chmod would make the file writable for you, but as well to malicious firefox plugins, etc.
[11:19] <ph8> do i just copy the cd image across?
[11:19] <justin_> RetLaw: pitti I was simply telling him how to make it writable, I never said he should do it in /etc ;)
[11:19] <RetLaw> pitti: thanks I'll give it a try
[11:19] <ph8> and then how do i make it bootable and make it ignore my other partition?
[11:19] <synjet> compiz has weird issues... I never got it to work
[11:19] <justin_> pitti: Your ruining the fun of learning hardknocks :)
[11:19] <Neo8750> i got it to work once but it was way to slow
[11:19] <pitti> justin_: sorry for spoiling it :)
[11:19] <justin_> pitti: :P
[11:20] <Blissex> lmosher: then you are trying to define your own screensaver module. It is either/or: either your screensaver or 'xscreensaver'.
[11:20] <Shadowpillar> so who's great plan was it to change xscreensaver to gnome-screensaver?
[11:20] <H080J03> umm i can't run anything as root beacuse it has the wrong time stamp, so what do i have to do to fix this?
[11:20] <Shadowpillar> whose*
[11:20] <TBay> man, the linux community seems to be a very nice community :-)
[11:20] <Blissex> lmosher: anyhow 'xscreensaver' can run a number of modules; just look at its docs on how to create a new module.
[11:20] <era86> anyone here use openbox as their desktop?
[11:20] <AZzKikR> H080J03, there should be a file in your home directory with the timestamp info i think
[11:20] <lmosher> Blissex, I have deleted /usr/lib/xscreensaver/swirl and replaced it with my own executable script. This is what I am using.
[11:21] <H080J03> you know what it is called?
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> gnome-screensaver crashes for me occasionally
[11:21] <JackONeill> just installed xubunu - what package do i get to install gnome?
[11:21] <AZzKikR> H080J03, .sudo_as_admin_successful i think
[11:21] <JackONeill> i cant see a gnome-desktop
[11:21] <Spike1506> gnome is installed as default JackONeill ?
[11:21] <AZzKikR> try deleting that one
[11:21] <lmosher> Blissex, but the problem is my script modifies the physical environment. Let's pretend it turns my x-chat window black and then blue... this happens sucessfully if I run the script independently
[11:21] <Blissex> lmosher: it is not as simple as that.
[11:21] <JackONeill> Spike1506, this is xubuntu
[11:21] <Spike1506> ohw ok
[11:21] <H080J03> thx
[11:21] <Spike1506> a misread :$
[11:21] <JackONeill> i cant see a gnome-desktop... what is it to install gnome ?
[11:21] <H080J03> do i have to be root to edit it?
[11:22] <lmosher> Blissex, but if I run xscreensaver it still happens, but a black window covers my desktop. I would like to use my script to destroy the black window...?
[11:22] <AZzKikR> H080J03, no, just delete it from your homedir
[11:22] <kroog> H080j03 try like a user
[11:22] <Blissex> lmosher: you hve to run it in the way 'xscreensaver' expects it to run.
[11:22] <Blissex> lmosher: for example most likely 'xscreensaver' passes a Window ID to the module...
[11:23] <synjet> JackONeil: apt-get install gnome?
[11:23] <fluvvell> anyone know how to get just the last dozen or so lines of dmesg?
[11:23] <justin_> JackONeill: Did you install the regular Ubuntu CD?
[11:23] <justin_> JackONeill: sudo apt-get ubuntu-base
[11:23] <pitti> fluvvell: 'dmesg'?
[11:23] <justin_> Unless you installed the normal Ubuntu, in which case it would be an Xserver issue
[11:23] <H080J03> i moved it to the trash, same thing
[11:23] <pitti> fluvvell: if it's not there any more, /var/log/kern.log
[11:23] <H080J03> and the file was empty
[11:24] <lmosher> Blissex, I suppose I could set the xscreensaver window to fully transparent. That would work.
[11:24] <Spike1506> Anyone knows where to get the glib-gettext package?
[11:24] <AZzKikR> H080J03, hmm. you probably edited the time of your machine, did you not?
[11:24] <fluvvell> pitti:  i get a whole two screenfuls, need a shorter version
[11:24] <H080J03> yea i just did that
[11:24] <pitti> fluvvell: aah - dmesg | tail
[11:24] <AZzKikR> H080J03, i had the same thing... i don't know how i fixed it, i deleted that file and just waited a bit
[11:24] <Spike1506> !glib-gettext
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib-gettext - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <H080J03> it was the right date, but wrong say of the week
[11:24] <ph8> hey all
[11:24] <ph8> does edgy knot2 work?
[11:25] <ph8> i saw something saying it's completely fucked
[11:25] <Sybux> hi
[11:25] <fluvvell> oh DUH
[11:25] <ph8> is that true?
[11:25] <fluvvell> of course
[11:25] <H080J03> so i am basicly stuck in a time wrap?
[11:25] <jrib> !edgy
[11:25] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:25] <Blissex> lmosher: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#writing-savers
[11:25] <AZzKikR> H080J03, try: sudo -k
[11:25] <Sybux> any1 know how to connect a SonyEriccson P910i on kubuntu ?
[11:25] <AZzKikR> H080J03, that command will kill the sudo session or something
[11:25] <kthugalug> !nautulis
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautulis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <AZzKikR> !nautilus
[11:25] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 838 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[11:25] <Captain_Redbeard> Is there a package containing all the buildtools?
[11:25] <H080J03> no
[11:25] <jrib> Captain_Redbeard: build-essential
[11:25] <H080J03> same error
[11:26] <kthugalug> !nautilis
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Captain_Redbeard> cheers
[11:26] <BigMac> hello
[11:26] <kthugalug> !nautilus
[11:26] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 838 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[11:26] <BigMac> i am having major major problems
[11:26] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[11:26] <kthugalug> fank you very much!
[11:26] <AZzKikR> H080J03, try, sudo -K
[11:26] <AZzKikR> H080J03, uppercase K
[11:26] <H080J03> i did
[11:26] <jrib> !it
[11:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:27] <AZzKikR> and lowercase?
[11:27] <H080J03> i did
[11:27] <H080J03> yep
[11:27] <H080J03> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 14 14:13:24 2006
[11:27] <kads> when printing to my ubuntu computer from a winxp box through the network t is very slow
[11:27] <H080J03> that is what returns
[11:27] <synjet> BigMac: shoot your q, somebody would try to answer
[11:28] <AZzKikR> H080J03, try deleting: /var/run/sudo/`whoami`
[11:28] <BigMac> i cant get ubuntu to load on my machine...I have tried the live 64bit and the alt 86i
[11:28] <RetLaw> pitti: : I had to use sudo vi instead of sudo gedit (server edition i assume), worked ok, thanks for helping
[11:28] <simtower> is there a package that can be installed to get the boot screen back after a new kernel is installed
[11:28] <H080J03> alrighty then
[11:28] <synjet> BigMac: on ppc?
[11:28] <BigMac> prob with 64bit live is Xserver
[11:28] <kads> how can i speed up network printing
[11:28] <BigMac> neg PC
[11:28] <pitti> RetLaw: oh, I only use vi too, but it's not something I usually recommend to #ubuntu questions :)
[11:28] <H080J03> i need root privleges to do that
[11:29] <AZzKikR> yeah, i figured...
[11:29] <pitti> RetLaw: don't forget 'sudo newaliases' :)
[11:29] <BigMac> i have an ati rad x700 pci-e
[11:29] <H080J03> AZzKikR, any other ideas?
[11:29] <swim> suddenly i can't log on to, or ping gnome-look.org... what can I do?
[11:29] <synjet> BigMac: what is the prob?
[11:29] <BigMac> xserver wont run
[11:29] <BigMac> even after reconfigure
[11:29] <AZzKikR> H080J03, yeah, change back your date to the timestamp sudo gives
[11:30] <H080J03> you have to be root to do that
[11:30] <AZzKikR> H080J03, lol
[11:30] <AZzKikR> H080J03, reboot :D
[11:30] <H080J03> i know
[11:30] <synjet> BigMac: you are thrown to shell?
[11:30] <RetLaw> pitti: : newaliases ? I had to modify /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[11:30] <BigMac> yes
[11:30] <H080J03> alrighty then
[11:30] <H080J03> brb
[11:30] <pitti> RetLaw: ah, I thought /etc/aliases; sorry then
[11:30] <AZzKikR> H080J03, i am reading here about ppl with same problems
[11:30] <Spike1506> anyone knows where to get the glib-gettext package?
[11:30] <slewis> H080J03: sudo passwd root
[11:30] <synjet> try typing startx
[11:30] <BigMac> and i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <Dev05> Hey! Can someone give me some help upgrading to Edgy???
[11:30] <pitti> Spike1506: there's no such thing
[11:30] <AZzKikR> Dev05, edgy hasnt been released yet
[11:30] <BigMac> right that comes back and says no screen
[11:31] <RetLaw> pitti: no prob, thanks for helping !! appreciated !!
[11:31] <Dev05> AZzKikR, I know. The dev release.
[11:31] <synjet> BigMac: check your xorg.conf, is your ati card listed there? I doubt
[11:31] <Spike1506> ***Error***: You must have glib-gettext >= 2.2.0 installed
[11:31] <Spike1506>   to build gDesklets.  Download the appropriate package for
[11:31] <Spike1506>   from your distribution or get the source tarball at
[11:31] <Spike1506>     ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.2/glib-2.2.0.tar.gz
[11:31] <AZzKikR> Dev05, ah, no can't help you with that ;)
[11:31] <Spike1506> but the link doesn't work
[11:31] <BigMac> how will i do that?
[11:31] <AZzKikR> Spike1506, use pastebin next time ;-)
[11:31] <BigMac> check it to read it
[11:31] <sedrake> My X stopped working after I kernel upgrade, how do I fix my nvidia drivers?
[11:31] <Dev05> AZzKikR, np ;)
[11:31] <Spike1506> pastebin?
[11:31] <AZzKikR> !pastebin
[11:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:31] <Spike1506> ohw ok ty :P
[11:32] <AZzKikR> np :)
[11:32] <Dev05> It keeps saying: "Cannot calculate the update."
[11:32] <synjet> BigMac: pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see the video/screen segment
[11:32] <BigMac> ok
[11:32] <BigMac> also
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> I would like help share ing an HP100 between two Ubuntu computers connected via a router..  I am trying to use this tutorial...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu  I have edited the server and the client cups per the doc and restarted both but from there I am lost..
[11:33] <synjet> Spike1506: still having probs with gdesklets?
[11:33] <Dev05> !tell Dev05 about Edgy
[11:33] <BigMac> when i run config xserver.xorg it tells me to start ?GDM? when its configured then i am unable to config xserver at all
[11:33] <Spike1506> synjet, yes, i need that glib-gettext package :S
[11:33] <Spike1506> but the url i get doesn't work :(
[11:33] <amazingbill> Is there a graphical way to manage multiple ssh connections (a la putty), or am I stuck with terminal and "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:33] <Spike1506> tried a search on google but no results with a download
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: Building your own gdesklets?
[11:34] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: I just got mine from the repo.
[11:34] <BigMac> synjet: thanks for the help I am going to try that i will be back
[11:34] <trakz> damn kernel updates.....
[11:35] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow,  how do you mean?
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: I just used synaptic and let it install them
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !gdesklets
[11:35] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[11:35] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow, i can't find them in sunaptic
[11:35] <antoxz> what does the "quiet" kernel option do?
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Hummm.
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[11:36] <synjet> Spike1506: compare your sources to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23470 then it is just a apt-get away
[11:36] <Spike1506> ok
[11:36] <tamacracker> Guys?... What can open .ZIP files in ubuntu?
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: YEa, I get them there..
[11:37] <Spike1506> ..
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: HAve you enabled universe, multiverse and non-free
[11:37] <Hentai_jeff> tama:the package manager
[11:37] <tamacracker> hm... ok let me try
[11:37] <idontwanna> quick question
[11:37] <idontwanna> is it safe to resize ntfs partitions in gparted?
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[11:38] <idontwanna> alright
[11:38] <idontwanna> all i needed to know
[11:38] <idontwanna> thanks
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> idontwanna: There are always risks...
[11:38] <jerrcs> hi i have a question. whenever i do "ls /" my terminal seems to freeze up :\
[11:38] <idontwanna> such as?
[11:38] <Spike1506> Let me check
[11:38] <tamacracker> it's not listed in the "open with" option
[11:38] <tamacracker> package manager that is
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> idontwanna: But I have done it several times and so have others... I suggest you defrag and scandisk first
[11:38] <idontwanna> i defragged it
[11:38] <ladydoor> tamacracker: unzip
[11:38] <idontwanna> wats scandisk?
[11:38] <ladydoor> tamacracker: unzip filename
[11:38] <idontwanna> whats*
[11:39] <jerrcs> not sure whats happening with that, its also bringing my cpu usage up alot
[11:39] <antoxz> what is the effect of the "quiet" key in GRUB config files?
[11:39] <dudanogueira> hello there! does anyone knows how to convert a image (in batch mode, with convert) mantaining a fixed width?
[11:39] <tamacracker> i dont see a unzip >.>
[11:39] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow,  didnt had them enabled
[11:39] <Realcoolguy> I just migrated to a new computer, everything seems to be working great, except the integrated intel NIC (something pro 1000) doesn't seem to work
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> idontwanna: First, you should always have a backup... that said, working at the partition level with multiple OS... there are a lot of variables..
[11:39] <ladydoor> tamacracker: errr...what do you mean?
[11:39] <tamacracker> I have a zipped folder, I right click it
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: I'm two for two today eh?
[11:39] <tamacracker> the list of programs to open it with
[11:39] <idontwanna> well thats what im trying to set it up to do is dualboot
[11:40] <tamacracker> has nothin to open ziped files
[11:40] <tamacracker> zipped*
[11:40] <ladydoor> tamacracker: aha! open a terminal, *then* type unzip filename.zip (in the right dir)
[11:40] <Hentai_jeff> tama it'll go to it automaticly
[11:40] <Spike1506> Jack_Sparrow, what do you mean? (sorry english isn't my first language..)
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Spike1506: It means I am glad I could help..
[11:40] <ladydoor> tamacracker: also, if you want somebody to help you you need to say their nick before you speak--otherwise it's often hard to tell someone's talking
[11:40] <synjet> Spike1506: you hadnt all the repos enabled, thats why I sent my sources.list
[11:40] <Spike1506> Ah ok ty
[11:41] <tamacracker> ladydoor gotcha...
[11:41] <Spike1506> synjet, ah ok thanks
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> idontwanna: WIndows insists on being the first os on the first partition...  It will setup dual boot quite nicely.. I dual boot here.
[11:41] <ladydoor> tamacracker: :-)
[11:41] <sedrake> I did a update and now X doesnt work it says my nvidia kernel is bad, how do I fix that?
[11:41] <Spike1506> Finally i can install them, thanks synjet  and Jack_Sparrow
[11:41] <DBO> sedrake, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[11:41] <ladydoor> tamacracker: sorry, i imagine my instructions must often seem obtuse, since i kind of assume *everyone* prefers to work in a terminal. haha
[11:41] <synjet> Spike1506: no prob
[11:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone here able to walk me through sharing an HP1100 printer?
[11:42] <sedrake> DBO: what do u mean with 'uname -r' ?
[11:42] <Realcoolguy> anyone know of any issues with ubuntu and intel integrated nic cards?
[11:43] <maple1> how do I uninstall ubuntu to install windoze XP?
[11:43] <cpk2> ladydoor: not everyone uses a terminal? *gasp*
[11:43] <synjet> Jack_Sparrow: tried printtool?
[11:43] <DBO> sedrake, backticks, ` not '
[11:43] <ladydoor> cpk2: lol
[11:43] <DBO> sedrake, type it exactly as I did
[11:43] <hyperb0lix> I have integrated Ethernet
[11:43] <sedrake> DBO: ok
[11:43] <hyperb0lix> Intel, in fact
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> synjet: No, I was trying to follow the wiki on it..
[11:43] <ladydoor> cpk2: it may seem obvious to you, but i doubt i could get any work done if i weren't allowed to use a terminal
[11:43] <swim> suddenly i can't log on to, or ping gnome-look.org... what can I do?
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> synjet: Do I install that on one or both pc's (both using ubuntu)
[11:44] <tamacracker> ladydoor command not found.
[11:44] <cpk2> ladydoor: I can never trust those guis, who knows what they are actually doing =P
[11:44] <hyperb0lix> xd
[11:46] <tamacracker>  unzip System of a down Hypnotize.zip /home/tamacracker/desktop does not work to unzip my .zip folder
[11:46] <bsdfox> use quotes
[11:47] <bsdfox> or escapes like a big boy
[11:47] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:47] <tamacracker> use quotes?...
[11:47] <tamacracker> on the name of the folder?
[11:47] <cpk2> tamacracker: it wont accept spaces
[11:47] <ladydoor> tamacracker: hmm, ok, try sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude install unzip, and then try again
[11:47] <Eeyore_Jr> know where i can find a *.vmx file for ubuntu so i can run the live cd under windows ?
[11:48] <Eeyore_Jr> !vmx
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <Sybux> He, what the hell ?!?! I've just updated my system with apt-get upgrade and now aiglx won't start. If I try to run the script based in .kde/Autostart, it says : [Desktop: command not found ???
[11:48] <ladydoor> tamacracker: also, try this when you're redoing the uzip command:  unzip System <hit tab>
[11:48] <sedrake> DBO: Now it complains about "framebuffer" instead, u know how to fix that to?
[11:48] <ladydoor> cpk2: i can't tell whether you're making fun of me or not, haha
[11:48] <ladydoor> !it
[11:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:48] <DBO> sedrake, need the xorg log please
[11:48] <DBO> sedrake, in pastebin
[11:48] <cpk2> tamacracker: tab completion is the most awesome utility ever
[11:49] <hyperb0lix> :-D
[11:49] <sedrake> DBO: i'm in terminal, cant
[11:49] <hyperb0lix> Go bash shell!
[11:49] <tamacracker> cpk2 is tab completion a ZIP program?
[11:49] <cpk2> ladydoor: i'm not, even if there is a gui that might be faster and simpler i still use a term =)
[11:49] <RootChaos> does anyone know which package to install to get hold of this module ?
[11:49] <RootChaos> Unable to load module '/usr/lib/powerdns/libgmysqlbackend.so'
[11:49] <ladydoor> tamacracker: no, it's built into BASH, which is the "shell" you're typing things into
[11:49] <cpk2> tamacracker: tab completion is when you type Sys press tab and it finishes the name
[11:50] <tamacracker> ok
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !printtool
[11:50] <ubotu> printtool: Tk-based printer configuration tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5-9 (dapper), package size 54 kB, installed size 308 kB
[11:50] <swim> where is a good place to learn how to create a package from a binary app?
[11:50] <Frederick> does anyone ever managed to get debbug info for image magick in ubuntu?
[11:50] <DBO> sedrake, switch to the old nv drivers, log into x, and give me your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[11:50] <ladydoor> cpk2: i don't believe i've ever seen a faster/simpler GUI than a terminal, lol...at first i thought they existed in some cases, such as cd burning, but then i discovered BASHBurn
[11:51] <sedrake> DBO: how do I switch to old drivers?
[11:51] <DBO> sedrake, just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:52] <JackONeil> !samba
[11:52] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:53] <swim> um anyone please?
[11:53] <JackONeil> !smb
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <ladydoor> !patience
[11:53] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:53] <JackONeil> How can I share a dir so another win pc can view it?
[11:53] <Sybux> He, what the hell ?!?! I've just updated my system with apt-get upgrade and now aiglx won't start. If I try to run the script based in .kde/Autostart, it says : [Desktop: command not found ???
[11:53] <sedrake> DBO: still cant start X
[11:53] <ladydoor> !language
[11:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:54] <cpk2> JackONeil: samba should work fine
[11:54] <kads> how can i speed up network printing
[11:54] <ladydoor> !kubuntu
[11:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[11:54] <sj> JackONeil: I couldnt get to work, but smbclient
[11:54] <kads> how can i speed up network printing from winxp
[11:54] <ladydoor> sedrake: try #kubuntu
[11:54] <epidemik> i got this error: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[11:54] <epidemik> whats that mean?
[11:54] <epidemik> can i get help fixing it?
[11:54] <DBO> sedrake, did you select the nv driver?
[11:54] <sedrake> ladydoor: why?
[11:54] <kads> how can i speed up network printing from winxp
[11:54] <sedrake> DBO: yes
[11:55] <tamacracker> ladydoor... I changed the name of the zip to one word which is Hypnotize, it is located on Desktop, the directory should be home/tamacracker/desktop
[11:55] <DBO> sedrake, see if bootint into the old kernel works
[11:55] <swim> where is a good place to learn how to create a package from a binary app? anyone, help?
[11:55] <epidemik> can i have help install graphics card
[11:55] <ladydoor> sedrake: because it sounds like a kubuntu problem
[11:55] <epidemik> i get an error when i try running a 3d game
[11:55] <sedrake> ladydoor: what is kubuntu?
[11:56] <ladydoor> sedrake: oh! i'm really sorry
[11:56] <ladydoor> sedrake: that was for Sybux
[11:56] <ladydoor> Sybux: try #kubuntu
[11:56] <sedrake> lol
[11:56] <Sybux> ok
[11:56] <klhrevolutionist> Anybody know of an ubuntu pkg. for aria2c ?
[11:56] <epidemik> please help me
[11:56] <epidemik> any one good with graphics cards whod like to help me
[11:56] <sedrake> rebooting
[11:56] <cpk2> sedrake: just so you know though its ubuntu that uses kde
[11:57] <ladydoor> tamacracker: ok, cool. so try this (now that you've installed the unzip package, right?):  unzip ~/Desktop/Hypnotize
[11:57] <wastrel> thx
[11:57] <swim> ... no one know how to build a package?
[11:59] <spider-worm> !flash
[11:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:59] <ompaul> !checkinstall > swim
[12:00] <ladydoor> ompaul: isn't that for a source package, not a binary?
[12:00] <swim> ompaul: I've heard its not a good app for that


[15:12] <Unit193> xfdesktop4, xfce4-clipman-plugin, xfce4-indicator-plugin, and xfce4-mount-plugin uploaded to Debian! \o/
[15:34] <Unit193> (And gigolo)
[15:36] <Unit193> Erm, Oh.
[16:25] <bluesabre> nice!
[16:31] <flocculant> evening all
[16:40] <Unit193> bluesabre: Somehow we both missed picking up xfdesktop 4.12.4?
[16:43] <Unit193> Can we open Bashful Betazoid yet?
[16:47] <flocculant> ?
[16:47] <flocculant> Bill'n'Ben
[20:24] <Unit193> And now xfce4-weather-plugin


[06:19] <flocculant> ochosi: not able to use that ppa, it fails here with "The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/yuri-sucupira/thunar1.6.10-fix/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file." not seen that before
[06:19] <flocculant> don't know if bluesabre got further last night
[06:22] <flocculant> installed the deb files for the moment
[06:25] <flocculant> ochosi bluesabre - so doing https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12264#c32 I still see the bug here, pretty much immediately
[06:30] <Unit193> Just means it hasn't been updated for yuk.
[06:30] <flocculant> Unit193: ok
[06:31] <flocculant> if it worked was going to ask testers to test, but as it doesn't nothing lost
[06:31] <Unit193> I was going to review the packaging, but then figured that'd be effort.
[06:31] <flocculant> could check in xenial I guess
[06:34] <flocculant> gah - that wants a kernel upgrade too
[06:40] <flocculant> almost immediately fails here to
[06:40] <Unit193> flocculant: Set it to details view, click an item, then click a second item.  Does it select the second item?
[06:41] <flocculant> back in yak already :p
[06:41] <Unit193> It's OK, that's only reproducable on one host for me.
[06:41] <flocculant> but yes in yak - selects what you expect it to
[06:42] <flocculant> not seen that ever btw
[08:32] <Unit193> knome: Left a gem for you. :P
[10:38] <Unit193> bluesabre: Don't forget to push?
[10:38] <bluesabre> Unit193, ?
[10:38] <Unit193> xubuntu-art.
[10:40] <bluesabre> Unit193, I think what happened there... is that I didn't have push rights to the branch or something
[10:40] <Unit193> bluesabre: Should, I have them due to x-dev.
[10:40] <bluesabre> nope, thats def. not the case
[10:40] <bluesabre> got some commits in there :D
[10:41] <bluesabre> no idea
[10:41] <bluesabre> just a slacker it seems ;)
[10:42] <Unit193> I was going to do a .10 upload, but don't want to push until things are fixed (and the uncommitted fix isn't removed)
[10:44] <ochosi> bluesabre: also: https://code.launchpad.net/~glolol/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings/fix-pkexec-shebang/+merge/304321
[10:44] <Unit193> (http://paste.openstack.org/show/WBzRmEdqjHl5yHalcfvc)
[10:47] <bluesabre> Unit193, I'll get the branches up to date now
[10:47] <Unit193> lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings: http://paste.openstack.org/show/qBGmk0kwSmIcd9OfnWsO
[10:47] <ochosi> thanks you guys
[10:47] <Unit193> \o/
[10:48] <bluesabre> and greeter-settings possibly tonight
[10:48] <bluesabre> noticed some things in there I wanted to fix anyway :)
[10:48] <ochosi> awesome
[10:49] <ochosi> bluesabre: so update on the headerbar visual nuisance in 16.10:
[10:50] <ochosi> i'll check whether i can get patches into ubuntu to set a new style class on those headerbars to identify them as toolbars without breaking other DEs
[10:50] <ochosi> and then i'll also submit a PR to light-themes so that ubuntu gets some benefit for merging my patches
[10:50] <ochosi> and then we'll have them look like regular toolbars
[10:50] <ochosi> i hope i manage to do that for 16.10, since after next week i'll be afk for two weeks
[10:50] <ochosi> until the end of september
[10:50] <bluesabre> ochosi, that sounds promising
[10:50] <ochosi> shouldn't be too hard though, i just need to get around to it
[10:54] <bluesabre> xenial branch is updated https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art/xubuntu-artwork/xenial
[11:02] <ochosi> uif is around the corner...
[11:03] <Unit193> Real wallpaper time?
[11:04] <bluesabre> yakkety branch is updated https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art/xubuntu-artwork/yakkety
[11:05] <bluesabre> knome probably has some dazzling wallpaper to knock us off our feet for 16.10
[11:09] <flocculant> ochosi: what like in about a few hours :p
[11:09] <ochosi> yeah i know :]
[11:09] <flocculant> :)
[11:09] <ochosi> we'll likely need some UIFe
[11:09] <flocculant> mmmm - will that taste as good as TOffee ?
[11:10] <flocculant> or should that be TOFFEe
[11:11] <ochosi> :>
[11:11] <ochosi> so when knome is not around, you're the joker
[11:11] <bluesabre> probably SAFe to say its not as good
[11:12] <flocculant> ochosi: someone has to do it :p
[11:12] <flocculant> while ochosi bluesabre are both here - tried the patched thunar - no change here
[11:13] <bluesabre> saw that, haven't tested it myself
[11:13] <flocculant> k
[11:13] <ochosi> k, thanks flocculant
[11:13] <bluesabre> could be it fixes a bug and reveals yet another (like every other thunar fix before)
[11:13] <ochosi> yeah, possible
[11:13] <ochosi> anyhow, gotta run
[11:13] <flocculant> I did see the comment a while back on that bug - which is why I commented then
[11:13] <flocculant> cya later
[11:15] <knome> i have some wallpaper planned, but yeah, i think we'll go with the UIFe...
[21:54] <Unit193> ochosi: Good to upload artwork?
[21:55] <ochosi> i think so, since knome doesn't have the wallpaper ready and i haven't really pushed anything noteworthy to the icons...
[21:55] <ochosi> btw, has jbicha meanwhile uploaded a new greybird to yakkety?
[21:58] <ochosi> anyway, time to get some sleep
[21:58] <ochosi> nighty
[21:58] <Unit193> !info greybird-gtk-theme
[22:11] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/16.10.0