[20:22] <cardamon> Now it's hanging at "Starting crash report"
[20:22] <Rustyblade> hey guys how do you install i386 packages if ur on 64 bit?
[20:22] <cardamon> Now it's hanging at "Starting crash report submission daemon"
[20:22] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Not sure why it would matter
[20:22] <ikonia> Rustyblade: what are you trying to install ?
[20:22] <Rustyblade> I want to install wine
[20:22] <Rustyblade> It says i need this
[20:22] <ga_sk8er> idk the line just shows the greater than symbol
[20:22] <Rustyblade> wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[20:22] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: this is a 'lubuntu' session
[20:22] <ikonia> Rustyblade: install wine from the repos
[20:22] <ikonia> !info wine
[20:22] <wNz> Rustyblade: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-77def7ca75193f24e358dba3dd6bcf674bd61b37
[20:22] <Septima> ga_sk8er: probably typed it wrong, hit ctrl + c
[20:23] <ikonia> Rustyblade: open the package manager and install the wine package, that's it
[20:23] <glebihan> shwouchk__, just to be sure, does pidgin start if you type the command in a terminal ?
[20:23] <cardamon> Anyone familiar at all with the Live environment having a issues booting?
[20:23] <Septima> ga_sk8er: if it's a zip file, you have to unzip it first with the 'unzip file.zip' command
[20:23] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: What happens if you start openbox all by itself? Test on another tty (switch back with ctrl+alt+f7):   xinit /usr/bin/openbox -- :1 -nolisten tcp
[20:24] <ga_sk8er> it is a zip file
[20:24] <SpaceRocket> I added Google account to online accounts but gnome contacts is not syncing , there isn't any contact
[20:24] <whoever> hi all, is there a date for 12.10 to go to lts
[20:24] <ikonia> whoever: it won't
[20:24] <ikonia> whoever: it will never be lts
[20:24] <whoever> ikonia:  why not
[20:25] <ikonia> whoever: because it is not an LTS release.
[20:25] <k1l> whoever: 10.04 12.04 and 14.04 ,... will be lts. not every release will be lts
[20:25] <Septima> ga_sk8er: run the unzip command on it.. if it says you're missing unzip, then type: sudo apt-get install unzip
[20:25] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Does this directory exist? /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu
[20:26] <whoever> ikonia: ok, i must still have release info to learn, how to dertirmin if a release is lts canidate
[20:26] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Or something similar in /etc/xdg
[20:26] <almoxarife> !file-roller
[20:26] <cardamon> It keeps hanging for me.  Apparently in different places.
[20:26] <k1l> !lts | whoever
[20:26] <shwouchk__>   dodo3773 indeed
[20:26] <ikonia> whoever: the release will be called an LTS release, if it's an LTS release.
[20:26] <cardamon> Am I on mute?
[20:26] <whoever> is there a date for 13.04 then
[20:26] <ikonia> dodo3773: no
[20:26] <dodo3773> ikonia: Huh?
[20:27] <ikonia> whoever: yes, 04 2013
[20:27] <ikonia> hence the name 13.04
[20:27] <k1l> whoever: every 2 years is a new lt release
[20:27] <ikonia> dodo3773: oops, sorry
[20:27] <ikonia> cardamon: no, you're not
[20:27] <dodo3773> ikonia: Oh :P
[20:27] <k1l> whoever: so count from 10.04 and get the row :)
[20:27] <whoever> ikonia:  i don't think 12.04 was called untill about 3 months after realse
[20:27] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Is there an autostart file in there?
[20:27] <cardamon> Well, at least there's that.
[20:27] <ikonia> whoever: it was an LTS release before it was released.
[20:27] <yeats> whoever: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-13-04-release-date-announced - note that it won't be an LTS
[20:27] <ikonia> whoever: hence how people know it's na LTS
[20:27] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Post it if there is
[20:28] <ga_sk8er> it shows the unzip is installed
[20:28] <whoever> ikonia: beasty kimico thx  and ubottu ... but your a puppet _)
[20:28] <ga_sk8er> i cant get it to unzip the file
[20:29] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hey Where Can I Find -  zlib or trf package?
[20:29] <whoever> ga_sk8er: what is the file and how are you tring to do it
[20:29] <ikonia> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: in the repos
[20:29] <whoever> ga_sk8er: unzip <file.zip>
[20:30] <ga_sk8er> unzip Downloads/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[20:30] <ikonia> it's not a zipped file
[20:30] <ga_sk8er> so i have to add the .zip at the end of it?
[20:30] <ikonia> it's a binaryy file
[20:30] <ikonia> you run it
[20:30] <ikonia> but I'd advise you not to run it
[20:30] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: there is and it looks normal
[20:30] <Rustyblade> wNz: is there a simpler method?
[20:31] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: sec ill post it
[20:31] <ikonia> ubuntu supplies xorg drivers for ati
[20:31] <whoever> ga_sk8er: ./Downloads/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[20:31] <Rustyblade> I added the repo and it doesnt work
[20:31] <ga_sk8er> then how do i  install it?
[20:31] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hey Where Can I Find -  zlib or trf package? where is the repos?
[20:31] <Septima> ga_sk8er: do: sudo sh ~/Downloads/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[20:31] <vklimkov_> \join #android-dev
[20:31] <usr13> ga_sk8er: You should to to Hardware Drivers for it.
[20:31] <whoever> ga_sk8er: the .run is the installer in this case
[20:31] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: http://justpaste.it/1mui
[20:31] <kostkon> [_-S1L3NC3-_], search in the software centre
[20:32] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: What's normal? :P Does it source .config/openbox/autostart
[20:32] <usr13> ga_sk8er: Ubuntu has provisions for installing video drivers.
[20:32] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hmm ok
[20:33] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Add "source .config/openbox/autostart.sh" to that file and reboot. does that work? maybe use teh @ symbol but I doubt its needed
[20:33] <k1l> whoever: to be 100% precise, a LTS goes to LTS state, when its released its first .1 release, like 12.04.1. but overall the whole release is focused more on stability than new features. so its lts right from the beginning.
[20:33] <almoxarife> ga_sk8er: have you already tried installing the vid driver via repo?
[20:33] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: also, if your right click openbox pipe menu isn't working you can probably comment out that pcmanfm line
[20:34] <ga_sk8er> idk how
[20:34] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: what do you mean by rightclick openbox pipe menu?
[20:34] <ga_sk8er> i havent done any linux in about 5 years
[20:34] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: when you right click the desktop. hole on ill give you screeny
[20:34] <cardamon> Ubuntu.  LiveUSB.  Hang at boot.  Bad.
[20:35] <almoxarife> ga_sk8er: dont go via the .run route till you tried the simpler install via 'software-center'
[20:35] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: I tried running 'bash $HOME/.config/openbox/autostart' (with a @) and it didn't help. still should try 'source ...'?
[20:35] <almoxarife> ga_sk8er: or use 'synaptic'
[20:35] <ga_sk8er> i just thought the software center had programs like xchat or pidgin...i didnt think it had drivers
[20:35] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: also, no need for reboot - logout,login suffices
[20:35] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: This right click menu: http://i.imgur.com/dVjto.png
[20:35] <Rustyblade> When I try to install wine i still get this
[20:35] <Rustyblade> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:35] <Rustyblade>  wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[20:35] <Rustyblade> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> !file-tcl 8.6b2
[20:36] <usr13> ga_sk8er: Run jockey-gtk or  jockey-text
[20:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> where can i find tcl 8.6b2
[20:36] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: $HOME may not be you. use full path /home/username blah blah
[20:37] <Septima> Rustyblade: i'd be trying like sudo apt-get --purge remove wine* && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine1.4
[20:37] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: that doesn't make sense in a global file
[20:37] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: by the way, may Iask what you use for dock/taskbar?
[20:37] <silvanojunior> hi
[20:37] <ga_sk8er> usr13 idk the command for that
[20:38] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: The dock at the bottom is called "wbar" panel at top is "xfce4-panel"
[20:38] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: anyway, I have a menu when I right click the desktop, but there are only a few programs there
[20:38] <usr13> ga_sk8er: jockey-gtk (or jockey-txt) is a user interface and desktop integration for driver management
[20:38] <almoxarife> ga_sk8er: alt-f2 , type 'drivers'
[20:38] <Septima> ga_sk8er: if you can find the settings manager, there should be a sources listed in it and when you run that there's an additional drivers area where you can select the repo drivers
[20:39] <WXZ> how do you use compiz-grid with virtual box?
[20:39] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: I use something called "obmenu-generator" so I don't have to menu.xml everything (just stuff I want custom)
[20:40] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: cool. Anyway, can you maybe look at your global autostart file and see if it is different from mine?
[20:40] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Try adding this to that file:    @/home/yourusername/.config/openbox/autostart.sh
[20:41] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: I am very much against such additions, beause globals dirs should not have references to local ones.
[20:41] <diverdude> which ftp server is recommended to use nowadays?
[20:41] <silvanojunior> \join #math
[20:42] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: I don't use lubuntu I use openbox only. You can see it if you want though:    http://pastebin.com/wCFCRc3u
[20:43] <Cong> /join #ubuntu - the slash is the wrong way around
[20:43] <Bubo> How do I make a new user who will have permissions in only a specific folder and NOWHERE else?
[20:44] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Hmm. Does this file exist:    ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[20:44] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Also, I don't think you need @
[20:44] <SpaceRocket> how to syn Gnome contacts with Gmail contacts?
[20:44] <jrib> Bubo: permissions to do what?
[20:44] <Cong> help
[20:44] <Bubo> create new directory in that folder / create new txt file also
[20:44] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: If that file doesn't exist try creating and add your stuff and give it another go maybe
[20:45] <Bubo> with read/write permissions and no execute
[20:45] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: no lxde autostart
[20:46] <ga_sk8er> software center shows i  already have jockey-gtk...im downloading jocvkey-kde though
[20:46] <dodo3773> Bubo: New user should only be able to access new users home directory. Need more control then that? Could you be a little more specific?
[20:46] <Bubo> Ok.. umm
[20:46] <mega1> in ubuntu server how do i find out my ip
[20:46] <allexmb> ifconfig cmd
[20:46] <streulma> mega1: ifconfig
[20:46] <dodo3773> Bubo: Also, you can use sudo to create a file in / I don't see why you would want to though
[20:47] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i have problems , my CPU load is ~100% . And the process that does this issue has pid= 1 and it has the name of /sbin/init
[20:47] <Bubo> I need to create a user who when logged in with SSH, can create new directories and files in the new user home directory but cant execute them, like executing a somekind of python script
[20:47] <XATRIX> I did strace -p 1
[20:47] <XATRIX> And got ton of such messages: fsync(4)                                = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
[20:48] <dodo3773> Bubo: Oh I see. So they cannot run scripts etc..?
[20:48] <Flannel> Bubo: python scripts can be run without +x
[20:48] <Bubo> I just want them to have mkdir, mv, rm, touch, vi foobar.txt (be able to save the file also)
[20:48] <dodo3773> Bubo: If they could not execute binaries then how could they use the system in the first place?
[20:49] <Bubo> I just want them to have mkdir, mv, rm, touch, vi foobar.txt (be able to save the file also) - it's so they can learn how to use the terminal :\
[20:50] <Rustyblade> Max401: Dude u there?
[20:50] <Bubo> What do you mean dodo3773?
[20:50] <XATRIX> Any idea what can cause 100% load ? The process that does the load is /sbin/init
[20:50] <daftykins> Bubo: sounds like chroot'ing you want
[20:50] <daftykins> or non-persistent virtual machines
[20:51] <Flannel> Bubo: Look into scponly, it will help you set up what you want.
[20:51] <dodo3773> Bubo: Oh I see. Hmm. Well, they would need access to /usr/bin /bin etc.. to run the programs you want them too. Or you will have tpo create a second virtual environment for them which may be easier
[20:51] <Flannel> Bubo: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/scponly-limited-shell-for-secure-file-transfers.html
[20:51] <Bubo> I don't know what that means but I need this for a friends of mine who don't know how to use the termianl and want to learn to. So I want to setup an account for them so they can learn how to navigate in the terminal..
[20:51] <Flannel> Bubo: but you don't trust them?
[20:51] <dodo3773> Bubo: chroot jail of some kind. Listen to daftykins
[20:51] <Bubo> No, I don't trust them
[20:51] <daftykins> Bubo: can you not just help them run a LiveCD?
[20:51] <Bubo> Oh that would be harder :D
[20:51] <dodo3773> Bubo: Doesn't mean they can't break out of it though if they were good enough
[20:52] <Bubo> That's why I am asking here..
[20:52] <Flannel> Bubo: alright.  Look into scponly.  I believe it uses chroot as an underlying method, but helps you set it up.
[20:52] <MarcN> anyone have experience with gcstar and tellico?  They are collection managers of things.
[20:52] <Bubo> Ok Flannel I will now
[20:52] <daftykins> yeah i remember using scponly
[20:52] <Rustyblade> Guys I am trying to install wine and I have tried everything I always get this error
[20:52] <Rustyblade> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:52] <Rustyblade>  wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[20:52] <Rustyblade> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:53] <Faceless> I would like to install Ubuntu without GUI, is it possible?
[20:53] <bekks> Faceless: Yes.
[20:53] <daftykins> Faceless: get ubuntu server, or the alternate install ISO
[20:53] <Faceless> daftykins: It contains extra stuff tho, right?
[20:54] <bekks> Faceless: No.
[20:54] <daftykins> Faceless: which one?
[20:54] <nko> hi to all, someone could help me to config an old webacam to ubuntu 10.04?
[20:54] <Faceless> Preinstalled
[20:54] <Rustyblade> So no one can help me?
[20:54] <daftykins> Faceless: well you can get a minimal install image too i think
[20:54] <daftykins> used to be called the 'net install' CD in debian terms
[20:54] <Rustyblade> Feels ignored*
[20:54] <Flannel> mini install uses the same installer as alternate, so they both have the same options.
[20:55] <dodo3773> Rustyblade: what's up? Can't install wine?
[20:55] <Rustyblade> yeah
[20:55] <Rustyblade> I get this
[20:55] <Rustyblade> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:55] <Rustyblade>  wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[20:55] <Rustyblade> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:55] <FloodBot1> Rustyblade: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Did you sort out your autostart problem?
[20:55] <Faceless> daftykins: Doesn't it contain LAMP-server, SSH-server and such?
[20:55] <daftykins> Rustyblade: sorry. can you pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?
[20:55] <daftykins> Faceless: those are only installed if you select them at the start - with server
[20:56] <dodo3773> Rustyblade: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:56] <gianfranco> !list
[20:56] <daftykins> Faceless: if you say no to any roles, it leaves you with practically nothing
[20:56] <Faceless> daftykins: Oh, ok, thanks!
[20:56] <daftykins> np :)
[20:56] <XATRIX> Any idea what can cause 100% load ? The process that does the load is /sbin/init
[20:56] <nko> the webcam is "Aiptek PenCam 1"
[20:56] <gilligan_> can anyone tell me where/when/how a gnome or unity session restores display settings on start up ? After initially configuring my setup with amdcccle the settings are loaded when i start a gnome or unity session but not when I use something lightweight (fluxbox/awesome/etc) Does anyone know if there is a way I can trigger this ?
[20:56] <Rustyblade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444054/
[20:56] <dodo3773> Rustyblade: Listen to daftykins
[20:56] <Rustyblade> Thats what I get
[20:57] <Rustyblade> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444054/
[20:57] <dodo3773> Rustyblade: Have you "sudo apt-get update" yet
[20:57] <daftykins> Rustyblade: oh, ok that's weird. umm, ^ what dodo said
[20:57] <flac-min> good afternoon everyone, does anyone have a good tutorial for setting up a postfix mail server? I cannot find one that works!
[20:57] <Rustyblade> Yeah I did
[20:58] <gianfranco> hi
[20:58] <streulma> flac-min: yes
[20:58] <flac-min> can has?
[20:58] <streulma> flac-min: can help you private
[20:58] <gianfranco> !list
[20:58] <Rustyblade> I think I need to install a i386 package to a 64 bit
[20:58] <flac-min> Im following a bunch to the "T" and they just fail
[20:59] <gianfranco> !list
[20:59] <Rustyblade> daftykins: so you can't help me :(
[20:59] <daftykins> Rustyblade: sorry was in another chan, multi-tasking
[20:59] <daftykins> what makes you think you've got an arch issue?
[20:59] <Rustyblade> oh XD
[21:00] <Rustyblade> Cause when I do "sudo apt-get install wine1.4"
[21:00] <Rustyblade> I get this
[21:00] <dodo3773> Rustyblade: Why not just apt-get install wine
[21:01] <dodo3773> Rustyblade: Instead of wine1.4
[21:01] <Rustyblade> It says i need wine1.4
[21:01] <dodo3773> Rustyblade: What says that?
[21:01] <Rustyblade> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:01] <Rustyblade>  wine : Depends: wine1.5 but it is not going to be installed
[21:01] <Rustyblade> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:01] <Flannel> Rustyblade: What sort of package pinning/holding have you done?
[21:01] <daftykins> Rustyblade: 64-bit install i take it? is it not possibly as simple as not having the universe and multiverse mirrors enabled ?
[21:02] <Rustyblade> daftykins: Yeah I am 64 bit so how do i do it?
[21:02] <daftykins> it's possible there's an issue installing 32-bit WINE on a 64-bit host, i'm not sure
[21:02] <Flannel> Rustyblade: Please pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy wine wine1.4 wine1.4-amd64 wine1.4-i386`
[21:02] <daftykins> lemme googleify it
[21:03] <ga_sk8er> i was able to run the .run file in command by this one site i  found
[21:03] <ga_sk8er> then part of it says to execute the file in terminal
[21:03] <Rustyblade> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444063/
[21:03] <ga_sk8er> im not sure on how to do that
[21:03] <ga_sk8er> i type execute filename & i get nothing
[21:03] <daftykins> ga_sk8er: are you sure you can trust the source? "./file.run" would do it after chmod'ing +x
[21:04] <jrib> ga_sk8er: what is this .run file for?
[21:04] <ga_sk8er> video card driver
[21:04] <daftykins> ga_sk8er: you must always './file' instead of 'file' as a security sorta mechanism
[21:04] <Flannel> Yes.  Rustyblade, your PPA is causing your headaches.
[21:05] <jrib> ga_sk8er: is there a reason you aren't using the repositories?
[21:05] <daftykins> Rustyblade: ah-har ye were sources.list modding, tut tut ;)
[21:05] <Flannel> Rustyblade: Do you want wine? or wine1.4?
[21:05] <ga_sk8er> idk what ur talking about
[21:05] <bekks> daftykins: It has nothing to do with security. It has something to do with the fact the current directory possibly not being in $PATH
[21:05] <Rustyblade> Flannel: Wine1.4 :D
[21:05] <ga_sk8er> i used the software center to try to look for my driver & got nothing
[21:05] <DarkPhonix> hi all
[21:05] <DarkPhonix> my ubutntu install freezes at the grub screen
[21:05] <DarkPhonix> no timeout counter, no keyboard response
[21:05] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: What driver are you looking for?
[21:05] <Flannel> Rustyblade: disable the wine ppa, then do a source update, then we'll start over with error messages again.
[21:05] <DarkPhonix> alreayd tried to grub-install same thing
[21:05] <DarkPhonix> any ideas how to fix this?
[21:06] <jrib> ga_sk8er: what card?
[21:06] <ga_sk8er> i have the driver downloaded from the ati site (the linux version) i  just cant get the .run file to install it
[21:06] <ga_sk8er> x300
[21:07] <usr13> ga_sk8er: You may have to enable the executable bit
[21:07] <Evil_Eric> hey guys hows it going its been awhile since ive been active here and here is my issue in ubuntu 12.04LTS 64bit i want to remove or hide the im status with out removing the entire indicator bar thanks
[21:07] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: Does this help?:    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:07] <ga_sk8er> i checked the box for it to run in terminal if thats what u mean
[21:07] <Rustyblade> Flannel: Alright done
[21:08] <WXZ> I need to figure out how to do optimal package selection, given a list of packages, how do I find the minimal # of packages to install to install all the packages?
[21:08] <jrib> WXZ: i'm curious why you want to do this
[21:08] <Rustyblade> Flannel: Should try "sudo apt-get install wine" again?
[21:08] <dodo3773> WXZ: What do you mean? Like a dependency tree?
[21:08] <WXZ> dodo3773: yes
[21:08] <mega1> how do i see what services are running
[21:09] <WXZ> jrib: because I've got my synaptic history files, and I want to know exactly what it is I marked for installation
[21:09] <dodo3773> WXZ: Do you have this command:    apt-rdepends
[21:09] <ga_sk8er> theres 3 options for downloaidng this file ...a debian.tar.gz ...a ubuntu4.dsc....a orig.tar.gz
[21:09] <Rustyblade> Flannel: What now?
[21:09] <Cong> A dependency tree it all the files that are need to run a program.
[21:09] <jrib> ga_sk8er: is nothing available to you when you go to "software sources" and look in the "additional drivers" tab?
[21:09] <Septima> ga_sk8er: chmod +x blah.run
[21:09] <CrazyZurfer> Hi, when i'm watching a video in full screen mode the screensaver starts anyway and it is very annoying, is there a way to stop it? thanks!
[21:10] <WXZ> dodo3773: downloading now
[21:10] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: did not solve it
[21:10] <Flannel> Rustyblade: Yeah, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[21:10] <DarkPhonix> anyone.. ubuntu grub freeze on menu?
[21:10] <dodo3773> WXZ: Downloading what? Just put that in your terminal and see if it is what you want. No need to download anything I dont think?
[21:10] <jrib> WXZ: you can probably just use apt-mark to list the packages you installed manually
[21:11] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Huh. Weird. Did it work the other way (the way you didn't want to do it)?
[21:11] <WXZ> dodo3773: I don't have it, that's why I need to install it
[21:11] <jrib> WXZ: or some related command
[21:11] <dodo3773> WXZ: Oh gotcha ;)
[21:11] <ga_sk8er> septima... itried that & it dontlook like its doing anything
[21:11] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: my wife just got home, so I left the pc for a moment. I did try adding to the global file (but without the explicit home dir) and also to .../lxsession/...
[21:11] <Rustyblade> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1444070/
[21:11] <Evil_Eric> my issue in ubuntu 12.04LTS 64bit i want to remove or hide the im status with out removing the entire indicator bar thanks
[21:12] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Okay lets try just adding a single app to the global file and see if that works
[21:12] <Flannel> Rustyblade: Alright.  What package pinning/holding have you done?  That seems to be the problem, is that it's not going to install anything until you fix the broken packages.
[21:13] <Rustyblade> Flannel: I have no idea how to do that
[21:13] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Wait a minute. Does lubuntu already source ~/.config/autostart??
[21:13] <Rustyblade> Flannel: Do I use Synaptic
[21:13] <Cong> Evil_Eric, that's not possible.
[21:13] <Evil_Eric> thanks cong
[21:14] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: You created this file & it didn't work either: ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart
[21:15] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[21:15] <Flannel> Rustyblade: You can. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto explains what it is.  We're not trying to get you to do it, just trying to figure out if you *have* done it.  Can you please pastebin /etc/apt/preferences/ and also the contents of any files in /etc/apt/preferences.d/
[21:15] <Cong> Evil_Eric, your welcome.
[21:16] <CrazyZurfer> thanks ;)
[21:16] <CrazyZurfer> Hi, when i'm watching a video in full screen mode the screensaver starts anyway and it is very annoying, is there a way to stop it? thanks!
[21:16] <ga_sk8er> im ready to just format my linux partition & give up
[21:16] <jrib> ga_sk8er: is nothing available to you when you go to "software sources" and look in the "additional drivers" tab?
[21:16] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: I don't think lubuntu sources .config/autostart
[21:16] <ga_sk8er> no its empty
[21:17] <ga_sk8er> it says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[21:17] <Cornwallis> crazyzurfer: can't you just go system settings>brightness and lock>turn screen when inactive for: never?
[21:17] <Cong> Do I need to worry about fragmentation on EXT2 filesystems?
[21:17] <jrib> ga_sk8er: did you follow the link on the wiki that you were given earlier?  Did you check that there actually is a proprietary driver for your card available?
[21:18] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: actually, it does source .config/autostart, but as a dir that is full of .Desktop files. Can I just put a bash script there (or a symlink to an exec)?
[21:18] <prodnix> hi all, Im using 12.10 with gnome. the desktop feel very laggy and a constant low fps but glxgears runs at 350 fps, any ideas?
[21:18] <ga_sk8er> so many ppl were giving links & terminal commands, idk whickh link ur referring to
[21:18] <jrib> !ati | ga_sk8er
[21:19] <CrazyZurfer> Cornwallis: I want the screen to get black for energy saving, and is annoying to go to settings everytime I'm going to see a youtube video, or a movie, etc
[21:19] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Just create a .desktop file that execs your autostart or a script of choosing etc..
[21:20] <Cornwallis> I'm not sure how to prevent that then. aside from just changing the setting back the next time.
[21:20] <ga_sk8er> i was gonna try the repositories like someone suggested but theres 3 different file types to download. nobody answered me which one to get
[21:21] <ga_sk8er> orig.tar.gz....debian.tar.gz....or ubuntu4.dsc
[21:21] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: that feels a bit convulted. Is that how you do it?
[21:21] <jrib> ga_sk8er: you just said that there were no drivers available to you in "additional drivers". If there were drivers available to you in the repositories, they would be listed there.  I strongly recommend you read the link ubottu just gave and follow the steps there
[21:22] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: No I don't have to do any of this stuff. I use openbox without all the bells and whistles of lxde
[21:22] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: I see
[21:22] <ga_sk8er> ok
[21:22] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: I don't use a dm either.
[21:23] <kostkon> CrazyZurfer, try caffeine. https://launchpad.net/caffeine The download link is this:  https://launchpad.net/caffeine/2.4/2.4.1/+download/caffeine_2.4.1%2B419%7Eoneiric1_all.deb
[21:23] <ga_sk8er> i have a proprietary driver...i downloaded a driver straight from ati for linux...u asked if i had proprietary or not
[21:23] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: ah
[21:23] <JoeQuery> What terminal/stty option would cause my terminal to echo commands back to me after I press enter?
[21:23] <CrazyZurfer> Kostkon: Thanks, I'll try
[21:24] <JoeQuery> If I do `ls hahaha`, I see "ls hahah" on the next line and then the result
[21:24] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: mine is like this (I use zsh):    /etc/inittab -> .zprofile -> .xinitrc
[21:24] <jrib> ga_sk8er: again, I'm going to suggest you follow the steps on the link ubottu gave you.  Make sure you follow the initial steps there which include figuring out what driver is right for your card and works on your ubuntu version (if such a driver exists).
[21:25] <ga_sk8er> oh i am following those instructions
[21:25] <jrib> ga_sk8er: ok
[21:25] <ga_sk8er> someone had asked if i had proprietary or not...i was just answering their question
[21:26] <jrib> !who | ga_sk8er
[21:26] <ga_sk8er> ok sorry
[21:26] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: ah, wow
[21:26] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: hardcore
[21:27] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Meh, I like things a little more transparent I guess.
[21:27] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: so no login either?
[21:27] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: autologin from inittab
[21:27] <igle> hi
[21:28] <ga_sk8er> when i went to the site of supported video cards, mine isnt in the list
[21:28] <dodo3773> igle: hey
[21:29] <jrib> ga_sk8er: this should tell you something
[21:29] <y0gu> hi
[21:29] <dodo3773> y0gu: hey
[21:30] <ga_sk8er> the page he sent me to read talks about ubuntu 10 & ubuntu 9...it dont mention ubuntu 12 on that help page. maybe my card is supported in ubuntu 12
[21:30] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: I guess this is not a laptop then...
[21:30] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: My computer? Yes it's a laptop
[21:30] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Why would it matter either way?
[21:31] <asdabep> k
[21:31] <Kilumnati> running ubuntu 12.10.. i had to do a clean install of win 8..  after tyring ot fix the mbr cause ubuntu was missing.. well now ubuntu comes up on mbr.. but my win 8 is missing.. help
[21:31] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: When you start your computer at the login screen do you have other sessions to pick from? There may be an openbox-session or alternate that could have saved us all this time??
[21:32] <jrib> ga_sk8er: what driver is in use now?
[21:32] <Septima> Kilumnati: run: sudo update-grub
[21:32] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: there is an openbox session
[21:32] <Kilumnati> i did that..
[21:32] <Septima> Kilumnati: and it said?
[21:32] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Well when you pick openbox session does the openbox autostart work?
[21:33] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: I am surprised that lxde doesn't have some sort of autostart gui or something
[21:33] <Kilumnati> no error
[21:33] <Kilumnati> no erros.. but now when i boot.. i only get ubuntu as option
[21:33] <Kilumnati> no win 8
[21:33] <Septima> Kilumnati: but it listed windows?
[21:33] <Kilumnati> i even now ran win 8 cd to do repair.. and it coudlnt repair it
[21:34] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: it did work!
[21:34] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Oh cool :)
[21:34] <aaas> how can I change to a different user temproarily.... i want to test some permisisons with the 'mediatomb' user
[21:34] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: however, I have no dock nor anything now
[21:34] <jrib> aaas: su - USER
[21:34] <ga_sk8er> jrib....how do i  find out the currnet driver in use?
[21:34] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: besides dock, anything specific I should start?
[21:34] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Cause the dock etc.. is not in your openbox autostart file
[21:34] <Septima> Kilumnati: it should have listed what it was adding to the grub menu when you executed sudo update-grub
[21:34] <aaas> jrib thanks
[21:34] <jrib> ga_sk8er: you could read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:35] <opalepatrick> any idea how to use hamster time tracker across distros
[21:35] <Kilumnati> ill try again
[21:35] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Also, if you like simple vanilla openbox may be worth looking at crunchbang. They slap it all together pretty nice if you ask me
[21:35] <ga_sk8er> jrib i looked up ubuntu 12 hardware & my video card is compatible with version 12
[21:35] <jrib> ga_sk8er: can you show me your link?
[21:35] <Septima> Kilumnati: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:35] <opalepatrick> atm the db file is in with the app
[21:36] <qwebirc45961> I have got a question which might or might not be stupid; I have a HDD with tons of stuff in it. I want to put Ubuntu 12.10 in it by using Universal USB installer. That'd not cause a lose by any means, would it? Like HDD getting formatted or anything.
[21:36] <ga_sk8er> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/video.html
[21:36] <zoidberg-> escott: Yeah I have an encrypted home partition.. sorry for late response got pulled off computer :-(
[21:36] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: Did you ever try the link I sent you earlier?
[21:37] <Septima> qwebirc45961: if you chose the partition which contains your stored files, yes.. ubuntu's installer would format it
[21:37] <ga_sk8er> dodo which link did u  send?
[21:37] <jrib> ga_sk8er: that doesn't say anything about ubuntu and in any case just says you should use the "radeon" driver
[21:37] <qwebirc45961> Aw.
[21:37] <qwebirc45961> All right, thanks, Septima.
[21:38] <Septima> qwebirc45961: you might alternatively download a gparted disk or fire up the ubuntu disk in live cd mode and install gparted, and use gparted to etch yourself some partitions for install
[21:38] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: interesting
[21:38] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: This one (updated Dec 7 2012):    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:38] <Septima> qwebirc45961: like 150 gb ext4 for root / and like 4 gb for swap space or whatever you need for your uses and system
[21:38] <qwebirc45961> Septima: I'll just try to find a USB stick or simply burn a CD.
[21:38] <qwebirc45961> No need to bother that much. Thanks for the help.
[21:38] <qwebirc45961> Later.
[21:39] <Evil_Eric> hey cong you still here?
[21:39] <ga_sk8er> dodo3773 i was gonna install using the repositories but idk which to use
[21:39] <ga_sk8er> i have the driver downloaded straight from the site. i  just cant figure out how to get it to install
[21:40] <Cong> Evil_Eric, yeah
[21:40] <jrib> ga_sk8er: what driver is in use now?
[21:40] <Evil_Eric> i was able to hide the im status
[21:41] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: Why would you want to get the driver straight from the site instead of following the instructions in the link I just sent you
[21:41] <flins> whats up ppl
[21:41] <ga_sk8er> idk which one to install...theres 3 differnt file types
[21:42] <Evil_Eric> but now my issue is that ubuntu wants to reinstall the package i had modify and even locking the package dosent work because its the same numbers
[21:42] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: ??
[21:42] <Cong> Evil_Eric, congrats.
[21:42] <Evil_Eric> thanks cong
[21:42] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: how is it with packages though? Large repositories?
[21:42] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: Okay baby steps. Pastebin this for us:     lspci -vvnn | grep VGA
[21:42] <usr13> ga_sk8er: What is your video card?  (What does lspci say about it?
[21:43] <ga_sk8er> orig.tar.gz       debian.tar.gz    or 0ubuntu4.dsc
[21:43] <usr13> ga_sk8er: lspci |grep VGA
[21:43] <Evil_Eric> cong got any sujestions for this other issue?
[21:43] <Kilumnati> the commands in terminal didnt work.. gonna try making the iso cd repair
[21:43] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: debian repos. not sure how big. used to be ubuntu based but they moved away from that for some reason. debian repos are pretty big though
[21:43] <Bull_Dim> x
[21:43] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Guess it depends what you need.
[21:44] <zoidberg-> Hey guys, i have a really wierd problem on Ubuntu server (latest 64bit version).  i setup ssh keys, and now when i try logging in i get pubkey access denied errors repeatedly and then all of a sudden it allows me in, check out this: http://codepad.org/XD5lXU6d - It is a vmware guest, running on an vmware esxi host.  Whats even stranger is, when i get the failed ssh attempts, i jump onto the vmware console for that vm, logi
[21:44] <prodnix> Any ideas why my gnome feels incredibly unresponsive
[21:44] <Kilumnati> how can i get it to boot like this..   http://www.aprigiosimoes.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Windows8BMa11.jpg
[21:44] <Cong> Evil_Eric, what's the problem again?
[21:44] <usr13> ga_sk8er: Did you run jockey-gtk ?
[21:44] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: complete debian repos?
[21:45] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: Yeah listen to usr13 just: lspci | grep VGA
[21:45] <ga_sk8er> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[21:45] <guntbert> zoidberg-: your question got cut off - #ubuntu-server might be better suited anyway
[21:45] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: What do you mean by complete? Yeah I guess. It's a debian based distro
[21:45] <ga_sk8er> usr13 idk how to run it
[21:45] <Evil_Eric> ubuntu wants to reinstall the package i had to modify but its the same version number on the package and just locking the package isnt working
[21:46] <ga_sk8er> software center shows it is installed but it must be one of those programs that runs from terminal cause im not finding it
[21:46] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: in that case, nice
[21:46] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: I don't have to mess with Xorg.conf, etc though to get it working, right?
[21:46] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Yeah. Not too bad. The install is really nice too. You'll see if you ever test it in a vm or something
[21:46] <Cong> Evil_Eric, you don't have to install it though. It's unlike the evil Windows update that wants to update when you shutdown.
[21:47] <Evil_Eric> i know but its agrovating seeing it in my update box
[21:47] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: You shouldn't. It's not really a diy distro except the openbox stuff (but it kinda sounds like you already know what you're doing there).
[21:47] <greenbrother> dvb-t af9015 driver for ubuntu 12.10?
[21:47] <RIb00n> anyone can help me please, i am trying to burn a audio cd with brasero but it doesn t accept mp3 ...
[21:47] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: It is lvm partitions though just so you know
[21:48] <ga_sk8er> usr13 how do i  run jockey?
[21:48] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: laptop or desktop
[21:48] <ga_sk8er> desktop
[21:49] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: that's not a problem
[21:49] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: I'm not 100% sure I'll actually install it, but I am downloading now.
[21:49] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: slap it in a vm and see if you liek it
[21:49] <usr13> ga_sk8er: Open a terminal, type jockey-gtk  and hit Enter key.
[21:50] <ga_sk8er> (jockey-gtk:8647): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[21:50] <usr13> ga_sk8er: I would install mesa-utils if I were you.
[21:52] <RIb00n> anyone can help me please, i am trying to burn a audio cd with brasero but it doesn t accept mp3 ...
[21:52] <ga_sk8er> sudo ap-get mesa-utils install
[21:52] <ga_sk8er> is that the right command
[21:52] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: I'll do that :)
[21:53] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: Cool ;). Glad you sorted out your auostart thing too
[21:53] <greenbrother> can you help me? I search dvb-t af9015 driver for ubutnu 12.10
[21:53] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[21:53] <shwouchk__> dodo3773: :) thanks
[21:53] <dodo3773> shwouchk__: You're welcome. Happy to help
[21:54] <mega1> i upgraded my server from 10.04 to 12.04 now noip is not running how do i start it
[21:54] <ga_sk8er> dodo3773 ok i  think its installed now
[21:54] <dodo3773> usr13: ^^
[21:55] <ga_sk8er> oh sorry
[21:55] <ga_sk8er> usr13 i think itsa installed now
[21:55] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: did you open a terminal emulator and try "jockey-gtk" again?
[21:56] <ga_sk8er> dodo3773 (jockey-gtk:9206): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[21:56] <usr13> ga_sk8er: What version of Ubuntu do you have?  12.04?
[21:56] <ga_sk8er> yes 12.04
[21:56] <usr13> ga_sk8er: Fully updated?
[21:56] <ga_sk8er> i downloaded & installed last night
[21:57] <usr13> ga_sk8er: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:57] <streulma> no Geomajas user in the house? :)
[21:57] <dodo3773> ga_sk8er: Did you add any 3rd party ppas on this system?
[21:57] <ga_sk8er> only steam & then i  got wine from the software center
[21:58] <ga_sk8er> usr13...no updates to install...fully updated
[21:59] <dodo3773> I'm outta here. Take care everyone. shwouchk__ later
[21:59] <usr13> ga_sk8er:  grep 370 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:00] <Sach> Does anyone know how to use pdfsam in ubuntu 12.04?
[22:00] <ga_sk8er> usr13 no such file or directory
[22:02] <ga_sk8er> im about ready to throw tux through a window & get an apple :D
[22:03] <usr13> ga_sk8er: Do you have the Xserver running?
[22:03] <ga_sk8er> idk what that is
[22:03] <Tux> Hello.
[22:03] <Tux> ga_sk8er, do you have a graphical interface running on that computer at the moment?
[22:04] <her_or_no_one> get the apple first before you throw anything
[22:04] <ga_sk8er> idk
[22:05] <ga_sk8er> all i know is when i go to play the game, it shows a lot of weird graphics & cant see whats supposed to be seen. i  thought it might be video card driver
[22:05] <Kilumnati> Septima thank you very much. the boot repair disk fixed teh problem.. thanks..
[22:05] <usr13> ga_sk8er: lsmod |grep radeon
[22:06] <usr13> ga_sk8er: Tell us what that says ^^^
[22:06] <blaz_> hi... quick and possible stupid question... :D is it possible to install a 64 bit program for unix on a 32 bit machine?
[22:06] <blaz_> asking for matlab 2012b
[22:07] <ga_sk8er> it isnt showing anything
[22:08] <usr13> ga_sk8er: grep vesa /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:08] <usr13> What does  ^^^^^  say?
[22:09] <ga_sk8er> grep: /var/log/Xorg.0.xorg: No such file or directory
[22:11] <blaz_> anyone?
[22:12] <ga_sk8er> i gotta go for now
[22:12] <blaz_> how bout is tere any difference runnig matlab for unix vs. matlab via wine?
[22:12] <ga_sk8er> ill be back on later
[22:12] <ProfessorBacon> in 12.04, once in a while all my files disappear and things stop working.  if i log off then on again all is well.  any ideas where i can look for details on what happened?
[22:12] <brun0> hi, how can i remap my ctrl key to caps lock in terminal ?
[22:12] <ga_sk8er> usr13 thanks for the help so far
[22:13] <brun0> somebody ?
[22:13] <elisa871> Do you know how to fix this? "Unable to locate package hadoop-zookeeper"
[22:13] <brun0> somebody know how can i remap my ctrl key to caps lock in terminal ?
[22:15] <KI4RO> brun0, You have to allow more than 30 seconds for an answer...asking over and over and over every 30 seconds will not help
[22:17] <IdleOne> elisa871: there is a zookeeper package but i don't see hadoop-zookeeper
[22:20] <brun0> exit
[22:24] <mega1> how do i mike a file so anyone can edit it
[22:25] <Cong> chmod +rw [FILE]
[22:26] <dr_willis> Or utilize groups
[22:26] <dr_willis> !permissions
[22:27] <master> Hello ! How can I change the ethernet mac of a connection in Ubuntu ? Can anyone help me?
[22:28] <mega1> i had to reinstall noip2 and when i ran noip2 it could not edir the conf file
[22:28] <Catbuntu> hey
[22:30] <mega1> it says no-ip2.conf is read only how do i change this
[22:31] <usr13> mega1: Why do you need noip2?
[22:31] <mega1> so i can login from outside
[22:31] <elisa871> what should I do?  hadoop-0.20-native : Depends: libzip1 but it is not installable
[22:32] <mega1> i have put my website on my server
[22:35] <mega1> is there anything i can do
[22:36] <usr13> mega1: You used sudo, right?
[22:37] <TheLordOfTime> elisa871, perhaps running sudo apt-gete install libzip1 and seeing what the issue is with that?
[22:37] <mega1> yes
[22:37] <TheLordOfTime> elisa871, if libzip1 can't be installed, it should be able to say why when you specifically state you want to install it.
[22:37] <cirwin> I just added a second hard disk to my laptop — how do I make it always mount encrypted?
[22:39] <lupeng> hi anu
[22:40] <ZombieRamen> i'm not sure if ubuntu uses the same drivers, but i'm having some driver problems in linux mint 13 (derived from 12.04)
[22:40] <TheLordOfTime> !mint | ZombieRamen
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> ZombieRamen  and we don't know how the mint people changed things to make it 'mint'
[22:40] <ZombieRamen> i'm on intel integrated graphics, and i'm getting really poor performance in 3d applications and rainbow artifacts
[22:41] <ZombieRamen> i think i may have tried the mint irc already
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> ZombieRamen, Mint isn't supported here in this channel.  For Mint support, you'll have to ask on #linuxmint-help over on irc.spotchat.org
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> ZombieRamen, Mint tweaks the repositories a bit after they "derive" from 12.04, so we can't really help with Mint that much.
[22:47] <usr13> mega1: Where is the config file?  Is it /var/lib/noip2/noip2.conf ?
[22:55] <``q> hello.  trying to look for the best solution to "lock down" ubuntu, autologin + only run one java app, and block all access to the system.  apparently in 12.04 some options to do that have vanished.  any suggestions ?
[22:56] <allexmb> ``q, scripting such up
[22:57] <lune> bonsoir qui parle français
[22:57] <allexmb> init=/script
[22:57] <``q> i also want to disable,  right click on desktop, ctrl+alt+backspace, ctrl+alt+del,  etc
[22:58] <anton__> alex biste noch da
[22:58] <``q> allexmb: please elaborate?
[22:58] <allexmb> yeah
[22:58] <fuzai> How do i change what ubuntu uses as a default home directory for new users?
[22:58] <``q> i'm looking into  using  xfdesktop  instead of the default ubuntu interface
[22:58] <allexmb> ``q, init=/java-app does it
[22:59] <allexmb> booting the kernel with it
[22:59] <``q> allexmb: could you point me what script you are referring to, (where to put it in? )
[23:00] <``q> xsession somehwere?
[23:00] <allexmb> there is none yet, gotta code it in case u want
[23:00] <allexmb> however
[23:00] <allexmb> its prolly not what ure looking for
[23:00] <allexmb> wjat changes u wanna do
[23:01] <allexmb> install and remove the all software u wish via apt and have your system as you wish
[23:01] <``q> no
[23:01] <``q> the default autologin user cannot do anything, except for use a java swing application
[23:01] <``q> can't view files, menu's, start terminal, reboot, etc
[23:01] <``q> change settings, etc
[23:07] <XicaSinCamNiFoto> .
[23:08] <Claire> Hi, the command to remount a FS that went RO is "mount -n -o remount /" correct?
[23:10] <asdabep> Claire: "sudo mount -a" that work ?=
[23:10] <allexmb> ``q, this is the so named session manager or something , login manager
[23:10] <allexmb> look around for alternatives
[23:10] <allexmb> apt-cache search display manager
[23:11] <Claire> asdabep that does not work for some reason
[23:11] <asdabep> Claire: thats weird.. did you check fstab ?
[23:11] <Claire> check for what exactly
[23:13] <Claire> "mount -t ext4 -o remount,rw /dev/mapper/tempnet-root /" when I try this directly I get "mount: cannot remount block device /dev/mapper/tempnet-root read-write, is write-protected "
[23:13] <Claire> Is there anyway to remove that write protection?
[23:19] <roo__> ?
[23:19] <Claire> ok anyone for how you remove the write protected flag from a filesystem without restarting?
[23:19] <escott> Claire, why is a dev mapper device marked write protected?
[23:19] <escott> Claire, what is the underlying device?
[23:19] <Claire> harddrive
[23:20] <escott> Claire, so this is LVM?
[23:20] <Claire> lvm?
[23:20] <allexmb> Claire, try with -o force too
[23:21] <Claire> allexmb force makes the command invalid
[23:21] <allexmb> hm
[23:21] <allexmb> maybe -f works
[23:22] <Claire> allexmb nope
[23:22] <allexmb> k sorry then
[23:22] <Claire> escott what did you mean lvm?
[23:22] <allexmb> whats the story with the write protection
[23:22] <escott> Claire, why is there a /dev/mapper/tempnet-root?
[23:23] <escott> Claire, why are you using the dm system. this looks like LVM, but dm can do lots of things so I want to verify
[23:23] <Claire> escott just using what was listed in fstab after my first command said that / wasnt mounted or is a bad option and I know it is mounted
[23:23] <escott> Claire, did you install ubuntu after fedora? is this some kind of exotic hardware?
[23:23] <Claire> escott and I am just using what was default installed with server 12.10
[23:24] <Claire> escott no this was a fresh ubuntu install
[23:24] <escott> does server use LVM by default? I've never installed it. anyone know?
[23:24] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, in the installation process, did you choose to use LVM?
[23:24] <TheLordOfTime> escott, last i checked, its not by default, and it should be asking you whether to use LVM or not
[23:25] <Claire> escott thelordoftime I dont even know what lvm is, i just used the default everything
[23:25]  * TheLordOfTime obtains an Ubu SErver 12.10 ISO
[23:25] <blackshirt> escott, i think it could be choosen at install process
[23:25] <Claire> reardless is there a way to set my file system to not write prtected so I can rmeount this drive?
[23:26] <escott> Claire, in any case while TheLordOfTime fires up vbox can you put on paste.ubuntu.com the output of "sudo parted -l" and "lspci"
[23:26] <Claire> regardless*
[23:26] <bellhuey> hey is there any advice for installing ubuntu on an ssd? I remember hearing that there are some tweaks that should be made
[23:26] <escott> !ssd
[23:27] <escott> bellhuey, sometimes people turn off the journal. you can also turn on trim
[23:27] <Claire> http://pastebin.com/08anMqnx
[23:27] <Claire> thats the first
[23:27] <TheLordOfTime> escott, you may be waiting a bit for me to get the ISO, D/L speeds here are crap right now due to regional routing issues
[23:28] <escott> bellhuey, you could also try a filesystem designed around ssd including things like btrfs, although i question the value of that for consumer ssd
[23:28]  * TheLordOfTime points at the 20 minute download wait
[23:28] <bellhuey> escott: is btrfs production ready for ubuntu?
[23:28] <Claire> http://pastebin.com/dzSDjyYb is the second escott
[23:28] <escott> TheLordOfTime, well its lvm according to parted
[23:28] <TheLordOfTime> escott, last i checked it shouldnt be LVM by default
[23:29] <Hwkiller> bellhuey: you only need to enable TRIM and change the scheduler
[23:29] <Hwkiller> really, you only *need* to enable TRIM, but changing the io scheduler is also recommended
[23:29] <bellhuey> Hwkiller: do you know of any resources that explain how I can do this?
[23:30] <escott> Claire, what is the output or "runlevel" at the moment
[23:30] <Claire> escot N 2
[23:30] <Hwkiller> http://www.howtogeek.com/62761/how-to-tweak-your-ssd-in-ubuntu-for-better-performance/
[23:30] <Hwkiller> bellhuey: ^^
[23:31] <escott> Claire, how did you get into this read-only filesystem situation?
[23:31] <bellhuey> Hwkiller: beautiful, thanks
[23:31] <Claire> escott 5 minecraft servers programmed by a monkey on crack causing file errors, I tthought I stopped it from doing this in the fstab and remounting always worked befpore, but guess not
[23:33] <escott> Claire, (a) no program unless it is going O_DIRECT should be able to damage the filesystem, and even O_DIRECT should be safe (b) not sure how you would fix this via fstab (c) you should be running fsck if you ever have errors (d) can you send the output of dmesg via paste.ubuntu.com
[23:35] <Claire> I removed the oprion to remount read only in fstab, its either I have gone through 5 brand new harddrives or it is specificly that one piece of software, and here you go http://pastebin.com/KsF1BPKM
[23:36] <tizz> greetings, i am trying to set an exe file to open in wine by default, but when i goto the properties of the file, wine isnt listed in the "open with tab"
[23:36] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, ever think you're just wearing out your drives?  (and pastebin.com != paste.ubuntu.com)
[23:36] <Claire> within a week a piece? doubtfull, not running that much that hard
[23:36]  * TheLordOfTime sees I/O errors
[23:36] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, you realize Minecraft pretty much constantly writes to the drive?
[23:37] <TheLordOfTime> Minecraft is pretty stressful on servers
[23:37] <Claire> when someone is onm, the servers have been dead because this is continously happening
[23:38] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, now you know why I keep about 20 spare hot-swappable drives for my RAID array nearby ;P
[23:38] <Claire> not to mention this was running just fine with this same setup on another computer, this didnt start untill we switched from ubuntu 10. something or another to 12 and our own server
[23:38] <Claire> simply, hi shappened before, I remounted, checked the disk and it came back clean, this time its write protected, all I need is  to remove that write protection, I'll do another fsck and things will be fine
[23:39] <Claire> wow i butchered that first part it has happened*
[23:39] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, i think you'll have a reboot, if its loaded actively while write-protected, well...
[23:39] <TheLordOfTime> and if the I/O errors return, you'll be in for even more crap.
[23:39] <Ben64> Claire: fsck from a livecd or something
[23:40] <TheLordOfTime> i agree with Ben64, fsck from a livecd/liveusb
[23:40] <Claire> its the same load of crap every time this happens, rebooting is not an option because I do not have physical access to this computer
[23:40] <TheLordOfTime> you'll still need to reboot.
[23:40] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, is this a dedi in some datacenter?
[23:40] <Claire> yes
[23:40] <Ben64> you cannot fsck from itself, that is bad
[23:40] <escott> Claire, the remount ro on errors is there fore your protection. by taking that out you give the system no choice, either corrupt the disk further or blow up
[23:40] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, file a support ticket with the datacenter and have THEM fsck it.
[23:40] <Ben64> fsck even warns you about it - WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL***
[23:40] <Ben64> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
[23:40] <Claire> trying to avoid 1-2 week down time
[23:41] <Ben64> it takes like 10 minutes to fsck :|
[23:41] <escott> Claire, if you are eating drives with that system then it is something else... unstable power supply, inadequate ventilation, dust, etc
[23:41] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, tis either 1-2 week downtime, or server death ;P
[23:41] <TheLordOfTime> i agree with escott
[23:41] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, and the fact you don't have direct access since its a dedi provided by some datacenter, only the datacenter itself can truly help
[23:41] <dr_willis> mice building a nest in the case. ;)
[23:41] <TheLordOfTime> (hence why they keep support ticket systems around)
[23:42] <Claire> I monitor tempatures and voltages and tested the system myself, its the same exact set of symptoms every single time and it is soley isolated to after the servers startup, and this exact setup was used before on a much inferior system with lesser drives
[23:42] <Ben64> must not be a very good datacenter if they replaced the drive 5 times and not checked anything else for a problem
[23:42] <Claire> and every time a fsck shows corruption in the world files, removes them and then it says there is no issue
[23:42] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, wait, you're making 0 sense.
[23:43] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, is this a system *you* own that's co-located in a datacenter, or a system provided to you by the provider for that datacenter?
[23:43] <Claire> i own that is co-located
[23:43] <TheLordOfTime> if its a colo you have the right usually to get physical access to the machine in an emergency
[23:43] <Ben64> then you have a hardware error most likely
[23:43] <Ben64> i'd vote power supply
[23:43] <TheLordOfTime> agreed with Ben64
[23:43] <allexmb> claire, need an admin ?
[23:44] <TheLordOfTime> I'm voting hard drive overuse, 5 minecraft servers + constant writing = bad.
[23:44] <Ben64> oh 5 servers on one drive?
[23:44] <escott> Claire, there have been fs bugs before, but they are pretty well flushed out except for unusual filesystems or unusual mount options
[23:44] <TheLordOfTime> Ben64, that's what they said, 5 minecraft servers on one system.  and that's pretty taxing given Minecraft does constant drive writes.
[23:44] <Ben64> yeah
[23:44] <Ben64> lots of tiny files being changed constantly
[23:45] <TheLordOfTime> Yeeup.
[23:45] <TheLordOfTime> ... crap that wasn't meant for here.
[23:45] <Claire> then why would this work fine in all my other setups and, 1 minecraft server has the ability to corrupt drives, Ive seen it myself, Im not trying to debate the cause, I have seen it first hand, Im just trying to get an answer to remouting the filesystem without write-protection or simply force the remount
[23:45]  * TheLordOfTime meant to say "mhm"
[23:45] <escott> even then the drive should be able to handle lots of scattered rights unless there was something else aggravating the situation
[23:45] <escott> writes
[23:45] <Ben64> Claire: you need to fix it first
[23:45] <TiagoTiago> hi
[23:45] <TheLordOfTime> also agreed with escott, but i've also seen drives damaged en-route to datacenters just by in transit.
[23:46] <Claire> I cant fix something that is untouchable, the drive needs to be writable beforw I can do anything
[23:46] <TheLordOfTime> escott, so its quite possible the drives were... "damaged' in some way en route to the Datacenter they're co-loing with.
[23:46] <Ben64> Claire: you cannot fix it from the system. you need a livecd or something
[23:46] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, i gave you the two solutions: (1) go request access to the machine directly, or (2) file a support ticket for them to fsck it.
[23:46] <escott> Claire, who is actually installing the drive
[23:46] <rob0> Ubuntu 10.4 LTS: I need to do SASL client AUTH using LOGIN mechanism. I don't see a libsasl2-modules-login package. How do I get LOGIN mechanism support?
[23:47] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, otherwise, we can't really help you, you *need* a live environment to fsck, otherwise it damages things.
[23:47] <GEEGEEGEE`> how do i find my sound device on ubuntu?
[23:47] <GEEGEEGEE`> like /dev/ ...
[23:47] <Claire> I installed the first two and they did the last 3, it is extremely unlikely that 5 drives fail at the same eaxt and I mean down to the hour, times after install.
[23:47] <TiagoTiago> quick question: do i need to use  the livedisk mode on a removable USB drive to have Ubuntu work without hitches on different machines or can i install it the normal way on the USB disk and it will still load all the right drivers etc when i plug it on another machine?
[23:48] <Ben64> Claire: right, you probably have another hardware problem
[23:48] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, unlikely but not impossible.  there's many reasons you could be dying out, could be powersupply or other hardware issues.
[23:48] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, NONE OF WHICH is going to be fixed unless you ask the datacenter to take a look (FILE A SUPPORT TICKET)
[23:48] <dr_willis> the creepers are eating all the bits and bytes. ;)
[23:48] <TheLordOfTime> datacenters usually have on-call techs for issues when you or a designated person can't get to the datacenter.
[23:48] <TheLordOfTime> escott, got the ISO, standby for server ISO default stuffs.
[23:49] <rob0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cyrus <-- this is about Cyrus IMAP, not Cyrus SASL
[23:49] <escott> Claire, are your mount options unusual
[23:50] <Claire> I tested everything thorougly and had them do so as well.    Just because it likes to trash its world file does not mean the device needs to be remounted, thats the core issue right there, the servers can corrupt them selves to nothing for all I care, but ubuntu wanting to hop in on the
[23:50] <Claire> this was specificly disabled on my last setup and it never happened after the fiest time over 2 years
[23:50] <Ben64> Claire: then save the world files on a ramdrive?
[23:50] <GEEGEEGEE`> how do i find my sound device on ubuntu? Like /dev/ ...
[23:51] <escott> Claire, one thing you could try would be to create a large image file "dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/file.img" of size sufficient for the world file, and mkfs.ext2 on that image file, and mount it loop. it might localize writes to some extent and isolate any corruption to that particular image file
[23:51] <djzn> anyone knows how to circunvent the "compiz" cursor size bug in Ubuntu?
[23:51] <Claire> That was my next step but I cant do anytrhing wile in this state.  Can I not just push a workable copy of my os or something useable to a ramdrive then boot to that and unmount the harddrive from there?
[23:52] <Ben64> Claire: you should be able to reboot and have write access again
[23:53] <TheLordOfTime> escott, got an answer on the LVM thing.
[23:53] <Claire> if I reboot the computer doesnt boot in wanting prompts, ubuntu was not programmed to have no physical access it seems and all I have right now is SSH until we can work up the funds for a KVM
[23:53] <TheLordOfTime> escott, by default, if you don't change the option at the installaiton method screen, it says "Guided, with LVM"
[23:53] <TheLordOfTime> (for blank disks)
[23:53] <escott> TheLordOfTime, ok. that makes sense
[23:53] <TheLordOfTime> escott, but only if you hit enter every time you see a prompt
[23:53] <WR47HANZ> does anyone have any idea why upon installing ubuntu and restarting the screen is very scewed?
[23:53] <allexmb> heh claire
[23:53] <allexmb> its so easy, some things
[23:53] <WR47HANZ> ive installed twice now and its the same both times
[23:53] <Ben64> Claire: what does that mean?
[23:53] <escott> Claire, ubuntu is perfectly capable of having no physical access if the hardware works
[23:53] <maujhsn> Thanks to ubuntu linux programs like "ffmpeg", "kdenlive", "Audacity" & "lib-visual" your videos can be as imaginative as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c6AV1tElU4 Enjoy it!
[23:54] <Claire> clearly, if you NEVER need to debug or reboot into some sort of repair console, then your just screwed
[23:55] <Ben64> just reboot...
[23:55] <Ben64> the read only goes away after reboot
[23:55] <Claire> again , cant reboot or the computer does not start back up, if that was an option I would have done it already
[23:55] <Ben64> why wouldn't it boot?
[23:56] <escott> !nomodeset | WR47HANZ
[23:56] <WR47HANZ> I set that
[23:56] <WR47HANZ> in fact, I ended up checking everything in f6
[23:56] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, not a true solution, but sudo init 6 sends the reboot signal, it shouldn't powerdown the machine.
[23:57] <escott> GEEGEEGEE`, generally you should be going through the libalsa provided by pulse
[23:57] <TheLordOfTime> (don't do that unless you're sure nothing's really writing)
[23:57] <escott> WR47HANZ, well what kind of graphics card do you have
[23:58] <WR47HANZ> nvidia gtx 560ti
[23:58] <dingoateyourbaby> Greetings and Salutations, bitches.
[23:58] <dingoateyourbaby> I'm here to inquire about things more important than 90.01% of the people joining this channel have.
[23:58] <dingoateyourbaby> In fact, it's not what I'm about to inquire about that makes it important, it's the truths I will be presenting today.
[23:58] <TheLordOfTime> Claire, but again, i don't usually run dedicateds, most of my stuff runs in VMs on a dedicated, so the dedi almost never gets rebooted.
[23:58] <dingoateyourbaby> Who's bright idea was it to limit 32-bit Ubuntu 12.10 to hardware with CPUs having a pae extension?
[23:58] <dingoateyourbaby> I was told about this by a frend, and I couldn't fathom such a stupid decision. I tried it myself and lo and behold, it's true; henceforth me asking.
[23:58] <Ben64> dingoateyourbaby: no
[23:58] <TheLordOfTime> !enter | dingoateyourbaby
[23:58] <dingoateyourbaby> Does canonical honestly think of Ubuntu as providing an excellent enough user experience along with being something people would urge others to use in the future, that it did this out of conceit?
[23:58] <dingoateyourbaby> I assure you that this is not the case. Although, yes someone could use debootstrap on a live cd with the necessary tools and partition, debootstrap into the partition, and proceed to build a kernel from with in chrooting into the partition, that doesn't require PAE.
[23:58] <mnathani> What do I need to install to fix this compile error: /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/stdlib.h:65:1: warning: no previous prototype for ptsname_r [-Wmissing-prototypes]   I am trying to compile libbgpdump-<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:58] <dingoateyourbaby> But are you assuming that people would bother to do that for the sake of Ubuntu? In addition to assuming that Ubuntu will be prevalently used on newer hardware? Is this that conceit I mentioned earlier?
[23:58] <dingoateyourbaby> Please respond.
[23:58] <FloodBot1> dingoateyourbaby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <WR47HANZ> O_o
[23:59] <escott> dingoateyourbaby, we don't program it. please dont bring those complaints here
[23:59] <dingoateyourbaby> Not a flood.
[23:59] <Ben64> is definitely a flood, go away
[23:59] <dingoateyourbaby> FloodBot1: I'm aware of IRC's character limit, this makes it more readable.
[23:59] <dingoateyourbaby> please respond to my question


[10:35] <RikMills> santa_: yeah, I wanted to get 5.70 merged before I started on 5.71 :)
[10:37] <RikMills> ecm and kapidox have been left, as there is a issue with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jquery/+bug/1881594
[11:15] <santa_> RikMills: ack, test rebuild of 5.70 here http://tritemio-groomlake.duckdns.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_frameworks.html
[12:30] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[15:44] <petersaints> Hi guys! I'm just wondering if there are plans of releasing KDE Plasma 5.19 for 20.04 on the Backports PPA?
 \0/ finally on GG now
 @petersaints, I asked the same question previous .. The answer is no right guys?
 or is it until the QT updated in LTS ? then it will be backport?
 we will see if it's feasible to backport qt
 the non-automated way the qt packaging is being managed in ubuntu doesn't help
 @Santa, 💪
[18:06] <petersaints> Oh... Ok. So Plasma 5.19 depends on a newer version of Qt that is not on 20.04. Therefore, you would also need to backport Qt which may be problematic since it's a dependency of many other packages, etc.
[18:06] <petersaints> Also, if Qt is backported, would it be part of the Kubuntu PPA or is it something made available through the main/official Ubuntu Backports repository?
[18:08] <santa_> your fisrt message is correct
[18:09] <santa_> with regarding to the second IF ew backport qt + plasma 5.19 both things would be in kubuntu's backports ppa
[18:09] <santa_> * IF we
[18:10] <santa_> RikMills: if you have some time tomorrow I could help you with packaging, we have some things to fix http://tritemio-groomlake.duckdns.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_frameworks.html
[18:10] <santa_> I'm going to start with a plasma rebuild soon
[18:11] <santa_> s/with //
[18:12] <petersaints> Ok. I hope that it gets ported, just because I like to play with shiny new things. But take your time ;)
[20:42] <blaze> I just discovered that Claws Mail app finally got a Qt interface, interesting


[00:28] <darkxst> jbicha, I notice the gtk symbolic icon bug affects the gnome classic status icons
[00:30] <jbicha> oh? I don't think I've run GNOME Classic this week
[00:30] <jbicha> that's why we need a QA team :)
[00:32] <darkxst> the status icons seem to use ambiance theme
[00:32] <darkxst> and hence the coloured icons are displayed instead of symbolics
[02:12] <jbicha> so there's a new kernel that supposedly fixes the undefined video mode problem
[02:13] <jbicha> that's a pretty quick turnaround
[02:34] <darkxst> jbicha, yeh very quick
[02:35] <darkxst> aside from the coloured icons making this worse, gnome classic will still show wrong power icons once that gtk bug is fixed
[02:35] <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1050695
[02:52] <jbicha> could you include a screenshot, gnome classic looks the same to me as it looked in precise
[03:01] <darkxst> ok, added
[03:02] <TheLordOfTime> you know if it were up to me, i'd Incomplete that bug
[03:02] <TheLordOfTime> um
[03:03] <TheLordOfTime> how's that different?
[03:03] <darkxst> the icons are full color
[03:03] <darkxst> in the status area
[03:03] <darkxst> and they are also from Ambiance not Adwaita
[03:03] <TheLordOfTime> here's a question:
[03:04] <TheLordOfTime> do application icons *have* Adwaita themed icons shipped with them?
[03:04] <TheLordOfTime> ('tis valid)
[03:04] <darkxst> well things like nautalius do
[03:04] <TheLordOfTime> "things like nautilus"
[03:04] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, /query?
[03:05] <TheLordOfTime> unrelated technical question
[03:05] <darkxst> the icon on bottom left corner is adwaita icon
[03:07] <jbicha> darkxst: are you sure those aren't Adwaita icons? they sure like Adwaita icons to me and light-themes isn't even installed on my VM
[03:07] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, screenshot for compare?
[03:07] <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: sure
[03:07] <TheLordOfTime> and also, seriously, unrelated tech question :P
[03:08] <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: there's nothing to compare, his screenshot looks just like my fresh Ubuntu GNOME install
[03:08] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, where's the ISO?
[03:08]  * TheLordOfTime was going to VM it
[03:09] <TheLordOfTime> ... after this system finishes its kernel updates
[03:11] <TheLordOfTime> unfortunately, from a bugsquad perspective, i dont' see enough information in this bug, that'd technically rule it as "incomplete"
[03:11] <TheLordOfTime> ... but apparently i'd want to test first :P
[03:11]  * TheLordOfTime digs around for ISOs
[03:12] <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: download link is in the channel topic ^
 unfortunately, from a bugsquad perspective, i dont' see enough information in this bug, that'd technically rule it as "incomplete"
 ... but apparently i'd want to test first :P
[03:12] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, ^ repost of what i said after you died
[03:16] <jbicha> I guess the bug is that gnome-themes-standard probably doesn't ship symbolic icons for the specific icon names that the indicators are looking for
[03:16] <jbicha> ...or the bug could be that the indicators are looking for the wrong icon names but I believe it would be too late to fix that for 12.10 if that's the case
[03:17] <jbicha> if it would require renaming Ubuntu icon theme icons
[03:19] <TheLordOfTime> might need further information or details
[03:20] <TheLordOfTime> if it were my call, the bug would be incomplete, but that's me
[03:20] <jbicha> someone could poke around the indicator's source code and see what it's doing
[03:22] <TheLordOfTime> the bug as it stands is pretty damn ambiguous, you have to admit
[03:22] <TheLordOfTime> as it stands, at least, its incomplete.
[03:22] <TheLordOfTime> (again, IMO)
[03:22] <TheLordOfTime> i'm headed off to beat my girlfriend in Halo on the xbox, then go to bed ;P
[10:06]  * smartboyhw has just finished compiling a daily build again
[12:25] <smartboyhw> Yo jbicha
[12:43] <jbicha> good morning
[12:46] <darkxst> ah timezones!
[12:47] <smartboyhw> lol
[13:07] <darkxst> jbicha, you had any progress getting artwork and slideshow?
[13:07] <smartboyhw> jbicha: I do wonder: Are you a canonical employee/
[13:08] <darkxst> smartboyhw, this is a community resping
[13:08] <darkxst> remix even
[13:09] <smartboyhw> lol since I saw my gmail saying that jbicha sent through canonical.com
[13:12] <jbicha> smartboyhw: no, but I have an ubuntu.com email which Canonical manages
[13:12] <smartboyhw> Ah that's why:)
[13:12] <jbicha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[13:12] <smartboyhw> jbicha: How are ya?
[13:12] <smartboyhw> jbicha: Getting membership in I think October or Nov
[13:18] <jbicha> I started using Ubuntu in 2006 and didn't get membership until 2011
[13:18] <jbicha> I should have applied sooner actually
[13:18] <smartboyhw> What? That's long
[13:18] <smartboyhw> 6 months is usually enough
[13:21] <jbicha> not exactly
[13:22] <smartboyhw> Well 5 YEARS is a bit too long, I think maybe 1 to 2 years
[13:22] <jbicha> it's not 6 months of use, it's at least 6 months of "significant" involvement
[13:22] <smartboyhw> Don't I know;)
[13:26] <darkxst> jbicha, so boot bug wasnt fixed so quickly after all?
[13:26] <smartboyhw> darkxst: Anyway it is not the Remix problem I think, upstream it is
[13:27] <darkxst> smartboyhw, yeh its definately ubuntu bug
[13:28] <smartboyhw> Wait for the ubuntu devs then
[13:31] <smartboyhw> jbicha: You do work a lot on docs I see:)
[13:34] <jbicha> yeah, I need other people to do docs stuff too but it's a bit challenging to get involved in it
[13:34] <jbicha> it doesn't require knowing programming though
[13:34] <smartboyhw> docbook is too difficult to me:)
[13:34] <darkxst> smartboyhw, did I even address that question to you? no need to jump in with random answers!
[13:36] <jbicha> oh, well, ubuntu-docs itself uses Mallard now which is simpler than docbook, but yeah
[13:39] <smartboyhw> :)
[16:18] <TheLordOfTime> oww... okay, so maybe staying awake for 40 hours is bad *yawn*
[16:28] <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: go to sleep!
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> i just woke up after sleeping
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> ended up passed out on the floor, apparently *yawn*
[17:09] <madchild> can someone please give me a little sound troubleshooting advice
[17:09] <madchild> hello?
[17:10] <TheLordOfTime> patience
[17:10] <TheLordOfTime> !patience