[12:22] <LjL> jrib: yes, i'm getting it
[12:24] <jrib> ah, good I did that earlier because I messed up the spelling in teh cahnnel and wasn't sure if it worked
[12:24] <jrib> as you can see the spelling thing is a problem...
[12:24] <LjL> heh
[12:39] <cables> Why can't I /msg ubotu @lart me, or other @ commands?
[12:40] <nalioth> because you don't @action yourself
[12:40] <nalioth> @lart cables
[12:40] <cables> nalioth, why can't I?
[12:40] <cables> @lart myself
[12:40] <nalioth> you /msg ubotu factoid
[12:40] <cables> @lart me
[12:40] <cables> aha
[12:41] <nalioth> why would you want to lart yourself?
[12:41] <cables> nalioth, but why can't I /msg ubotu about actions?
[12:41] <nalioth> cables: because of abuse
[12:41] <cables> nalioth, I'm depressed/emo :(
[12:41] <cables> nalioth, why would it lead to abuse?
[12:41] <cables> @rot13 bla
[12:42] <cables> (doesn't seem to be working)
[12:42] <cables> but for plugins like that, why would I want to do them in a channel?
[12:42] <nalioth> cables: because folks would fill the channels with stealth actions
[12:43] <cables> nalioth, that's not what I mean... I don't want the messages sent to the channel, I want them PM-d back to me.
[12:43] <cables> Just like if I /msg ubotu factoid
[12:43] <nalioth> ahh
[12:43] <nalioth> why would you want to do that?
[12:44] <cables> well if I want to @rot13 some text, it would be better to do it in a PM than in the channel, no?
[12:45] <cables> nalioth, but it doesn't have an auto-lartation plugin.
[12:45] <cables> auto meaning to myself, reflexive
[12:46] <nalioth> i think you need help
[12:46] <cables> I think I might :)
[12:46] <cables> either way, it doesn't look like @rot13 is working in the channels, anyway.
[12:56] <LjL> neither is morse >:
[12:56] <cables> the best one is still working though...
[12:56] <cables> @lart LjL
[12:57] <cables> bye :)
[12:57] <LjL> .. .-- .- -. - -- --- .-. ... .
[12:59] <mc44> @.--. --- -. -.-- /  .-.. .--- .-..
[01:04] <LjL> right, got to put a highlight on my morse nickname
[01:05] <effie_jayx> hehe
[01:06] <LjL> if i actually knew enough morse to copy it live, i could chatter with the cwirc guys. if there's any of them left.
[01:06] <LjL> they have bots with news reports, but those are sort of annoying
[01:07] <nalioth> jenda: ping
[01:07] <jenda> nope
[01:07] <jenda> nothing
[01:07] <nalioth> gotta have the appropriate level
[01:08] <jenda> I think I do
[01:08] <jenda> 3
[01:08] <jenda> 10    *!*@freenode/staff/*
[01:08] <jenda> I deop Seveas all the time :)
[01:09] <LjL> it's really 10  *!*@freenode/staff/*!except!jenda!*@*, but that's hidden from view
[01:10] <mc44> hehe
[01:10] <mc44> night all
[01:10] <jenda> hehehe
[01:10] <LjL> natti
[01:10] <jenda> LjL: I recommend you to try and deop nalioth sometime ;)
[01:11] <LjL> would kickban work too?
[01:12] <jenda> hehe
[03:34] <cables> Why didn't anybody plan an April Fools joke for #ubuntu?
[03:35] <cables> Y'know, there's still time...
[03:35] <cables> someone could announce something crazy in the topic or something.
[03:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Meh.  It'd be hard to outdo Google's April 1st prank.
[03:56] <elkbuntu> !release
[03:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[03:56] <elkbuntu> there *was* something in that iirc
[03:56] <cables> Maybe next year
[03:56] <cables> I'll remember to suggest before next time :)
[03:57] <elkbuntu> !feisty
[03:57] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
 The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) - Feisty will be released after 0:00 UTC on April,
[03:57] <elkbuntu> that was the joke. laugh ;)
[03:58] <elkbuntu> uh, it missed '1' at the end
[04:00] <nalioth> ya ran him off, elkbuntu
[04:11] <effie_jayx> hehe
[04:12] <effie_jayx> well in latin america fool's day is novenber 28th
[04:12] <effie_jayx> and a very well known tv jerk... said google was closing down
[04:12] <effie_jayx> hehe
[04:18] <billboforealdoe> hello
[04:20] <nalioth> hi
[04:20] <billboforealdoe> im thinking about leaving the ubuntu world :/ might try suse
[04:20] <nalioth> choice is good
[04:21] <billboforealdoe> i was hoping it would be
[04:21] <effie_jayx> good luck :D
[04:47] <effie_jayx> you know... trolls don't get aprehended at #suse :S
[07:07] <ubotu> posingaspopular called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:08] <Madpilot> that's a new bot feature
[07:08] <Hobbsee> it's nic
[07:08] <Hobbsee> e
[07:08] <poningru> 0.0
[07:28] <Jucato> :)
[07:28] <Jucato> oops :)
[07:29] <Mez> Hobbsee, it's nice NOW
[07:29] <Mez> it used to do an
[07:29] <Mez> !ops
[07:29] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth or jrib
[07:29] <ubotu> Mez called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[07:29] <Mez> after tha t:P
[07:29] <Mez> twas annoying
[07:29] <Seveas> @lart Mez
[07:29] <Mez> Seveas, :P
[07:30] <elkbuntu> yeah, it was wearing thin on me too
[07:30] <poningru> @lart 28 Mez
[07:30] <Mez> highlights in 2 channels is evil :P
[07:30] <Mez> hehe :D
[07:30] <Mez> pointy Hobbsee :D
[07:31] <Mez> See, normally it's the girls who get poked, not the girls who do the poking :
[07:31] <Mez> :P
[07:32] <Hobbsee> heh
[07:32] <Hobbsee> Mez: i know
[07:32] <mneptok> i don't get it.
[07:32] <Mez> Hobbsee, op wars later, when Seveas isn't here :P
[07:33] <Seveas> Mez, I can now IRC from work. I'M ALWAYS HERE MUHAHAHAH
[07:33] <Mez> :'(
[07:33] <Mez> /cs lart Seveas
[07:33] <Hobbsee> poor mneptok
[07:34] <mneptok> poor me!
[07:34] <elkbuntu> mneptok, we dont get you either
[07:34] <elkbuntu> hows about we call it even ;)
[07:34] <Seveas> elkbuntu, UPS can send him overnight if you want to
[07:35] <elkbuntu> Seveas, the operative in there being 'want'
[07:35] <mneptok> women want me. men want to *be* me.
[07:35] <Mez> mneptok, I must be asexual then
[07:36] <poningru> hooray for nerds not getting any
[07:36] <elkbuntu> !coc-jbj | Mez
[07:36] <ubotu> Mez: a/s/l?
[07:36] <Seveas> poningru, speak for yourself :p
[07:36] <poningru> :p
[07:37] <Mez> elkbuntu, code of conduct-jon bon jovi ?
[07:37] <elkbuntu> Mez, joel bryan juliano, as per his stupidity on the ubuntu-women mailing list
[07:37] <elkbuntu> sec, i'll linkie
[07:37] <Mez> elkbuntu, why does it ask me my a/s/l ?
[07:37] <elkbuntu> you'll understand in a min
[07:38] <Burgundavia> Seveas: problem now is that it doesn't make my xchat flash when I am not in the channel and not looking at it
[07:38] <elkbuntu> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2007-March/000716.html
[07:38] <Mez> Burgundavia, add to your highlights then
[07:38] <Mez> "called ops in"
[07:38] <elkbuntu> that one captures the entireity of the stupidity, but his initial mail, that starts with 'i think the coc should be changed' says it all
[07:38] <Burgundavia> right
[07:42] <elkbuntu> Mez, do you get it yet?
[07:42] <Mez> elkbuntu, no
[07:42] <elkbuntu> what part dont you get?
[07:43] <Mez> why you called that? what it has to do with me... the stuff before it
 mneptok, I must be asexual then
[07:44] <Mez> elkbuntu, yes, as in having no sex
[07:44] <elkbuntu> hence not an opposite one
[07:44] <Mez> genderless
[07:45] <elkbuntu> 1.  Oh dear, very embarrassing ...
[07:50] <elkbuntu> yeah
[07:51] <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: to be fair, i think he has some kind of problem ( psychological disability ) So I make allowances
[07:53] <Madpilot> "sends very strange emails" counts as a psychological problem these days?
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: no - I just think the content suggests some problems
[07:55] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: On the other hand, i send strange emails myself, and I *definitely* have a problem ;-)
[07:55] <mneptok> elkbuntu: but the real question is ... are you single? got any photos?
[07:57] <mneptok> i don't want "dating." i wanna breed!
[07:57] <poningru> 0.0
[07:57] <Madpilot> little mneptoks running around. what a horrifying concept.
[07:57] <mneptok> unfortunately, due to a unaninimous UN resolution ....
[07:58] <poningru> rofl
[07:58] <Madpilot> can you imagine a teenage mneptok loose in an IRC channel?
[08:00] <Mez> yes
[08:00] <Mez> it'd look something like this
[08:01] <elkbuntu> lol
[08:03] <poningru> eek
[08:04] <elkbuntu> Mez, i think it would be more a mass exodus from the channel by everyone else ;)
[08:05] <Mez> elkbuntu, yeah
[08:05] <Hobbsee> oh no...mneptokspawn....
[08:09] <Madpilot> night all. don't let the mneptokspawn bite.
[08:35] <Mez> hmm, I've been using festival, switched back to this, it pronounced mneptokspawn as "mneptok's porn"
[08:35] <Mez> *shuddders*
[08:35] <Hobbsee> haha
[08:36] <mneptok> Mez: all my porn is of guys THAT LOOK A LOT LIKE YOU.
[08:36] <mneptok> sweet dreams.
[08:36] <Mez> mneptok, then you have REALLY bad taste
[08:37] <mneptok> i idle here, don't i?
[08:39] <Mez> true
[08:40] <mneptok> can you do stuff we need done?
[08:40] <Mez> mneptok, like what ?
[08:40] <mneptok> well, your last idea is a no-go
[08:40] <Mez> (I dont suit any of the current jobs on /employment
[08:41] <mneptok> then nope :)
[08:41] <Mez> other than the outsourced on (and i cant move)
[08:42] <Mez> Ubuntu User Interface Developer - fail on one point for requirements
[08:43] <Mez> Ubuntu Server Technical Lead - 2 points (one being the word substainsial, the other being python)
[08:43] <Mez> Server Product Manager - degree level education
[08:44] <Mez> Senior Web Engineer - degree again
[08:45] <Mez> Ubuntu X Maintainer  - everything
[08:45] <Mez> Ubuntu OpenOffice.org Maintainer = not familiar with openoffice's code
[08:46] <Mez> see, I only JUST miss on those requirements ;(
[08:48] <Mez> I perfectly fit the bill for the lower one, but can't move (or commute) to oxford/lancaster
[08:57] <mneptok> that job is not with Canonical
[09:01] <Mez> mneptok, yeah i know ...
[09:02] <Mez> mneptok, hence <Mez> other than the outsourced on (and i cant move
[09:03] <mneptok> well, it's not really outsourced, either ;)
[11:42] <mneptok> !ops
[11:42] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth or jrib
[11:42] <ubotu> mneptok called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[11:42] <ubotu> Fujitsu called the ops in #ubuntu-devel
[11:42] <apokryphos> no ops around
[11:42] <apokryphos> !staff
[11:42] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[11:43] <jenda> huh
[11:43] <jenda> huh?
[11:43] <apokryphos> jenda: #ubuntu-devel
[11:43] <mneptok> jenda: c4n3R, by_KuSs, NapaLmDeath
[11:43] <Fujitsu> jenda: Please murder the three in #ubuntu-devel.
[11:43] <mneptok> could you show them off Freenode?
[11:44] <jenda> I can't.
[11:44] <jenda> Not in the access list :)
[11:44] <Fujitsu> Gaaaaah.
[11:44] <apokryphos> noo
[11:44] <apokryphos> this was an AI
[11:45] <jenda> Well, I'd like to invoke power, but I can't ;)
[11:45] <Fujitsu> Hahaha, flooded out.
[11:45] <mneptok> jenda: anyone with an o: line awake?
[11:45] <Fujitsu> They're gone now, anyway.
[11:45] <jenda> I have an oline... but that doesn't mean I can get rid of them.
[11:45] <mneptok> jenda: k: ?
[11:46] <jenda> can't, nope, sorry, not me.
[11:46] <jenda> Help coming :)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> wth did i miss :(
[11:50] <gnomefreak> trolls galore this morning i see
[11:51] <mneptok> gnomefreak: they got banneh and i /msg'ed them your e-mail address for complaints.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> :) sweet
[11:52] <mc44> should probably change !ops in -devel to ping the right people too
[11:53] <gnomefreak> +1 mc44
[11:53] <Fujitsu> mc44: Or make the right people those mentioned in !ops.
[11:53] <gnomefreak> easy enough just need a list of the right people that should have ops
[11:54] <apokryphos> mneptok: add yourself to them
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Seveas: are we leaving the ops as is in -devel channels meeting and so on i will change the facts to use right nicks
[11:56] <apokryphos> I'm sure we'll be able to get more added in a bit
[11:59] <gnomefreak> !ops-#ubuntu-devel
[11:59] <ubotu> Help! bhale, infinity, Hobbsee, jdub, thom, fooishbar, fabbione, mdz, lamont, or Keybuk
[11:59] <gnomefreak> those are the users on access list 10 and higher
[12:00] <gnomefreak> so that should ping every op in -devel now
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ok i guess i should change motu also?
[12:02] <apokryphos> could do
[12:05] <gnomefreak> did
[12:05] <gnomefreak> whom ever is "30" can add freenode to the lists if they want. freenode is not in bugs motu nor devel.
[12:07] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: ack, got confused with the +z :P
[12:07] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee/sladen can change it in #ubuntu-motu, as the levels there are different.
[12:08] <apokryphos> [11:10:36]  <rpc> so, your penis got bigger now?
[12:08] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: the guy had it coming anyway
[12:08] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: saw that and thought... "hey, but he got a +q" :P
[12:08] <Fujitsu> What's +z?
[12:08] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: /msg ubotu umode
[12:08] <apokryphos> we shouldn't really leave it on when there isn't a need
[12:10] <gnomefreak> ok most are done. ill check -meeting before i start work :(
[12:13] <gnomefreak> ok all see to be added as seperate lists for each of the channels that the normal "ops" dont have access to
[12:18] <ubotu> gnomefreak called the ops in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[12:18] <gnomefreak> yes i did :)
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu thanks
[12:19] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:26] <Jucato> lol
[12:26] <Jucato> (damn late replies) :D
[12:28] <gnomefreak> mneptok: what channels are you ops in ill add you to the lists
[12:35] <gnomefreak> is hybrid no longer an op in #kubuntu-offtopic?
[12:38] <mneptok> gnomefreak: #u and #u-offtopic, IRRC
[12:38] <mneptok> *iirc
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ok you have been added are you op in #ubuntu+1?
[12:39] <mneptok> no idea :)
[12:39] <gnomefreak> ok ill check
[12:39] <mneptok> yup
[12:39] <mneptok> eye yam
[12:40] <gnomefreak> you are :)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> your added to the !ops command that is used in #u #u-o and #u+1
[12:40] <gnomefreak> oops
[12:41] <gnomefreak> if you /msg ubotu ops you will see you ;)
[12:42] <mneptok> gnomefreak++
[12:42] <gnomefreak> most channels are fixed im waiting on an answer about #kubuntu-offtopic about someone but rest is all good
[12:47] <gnomefreak> is md5sum same as SHA1SUM?
[12:47] <Fujitsu> No.
[12:47] <Fujitsu> SHA1 is vastly better.
[12:48] <gnomefreak> damn
[12:48] <gnomefreak> anyway to get back something that rm was used on?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: prayer and fasting
[12:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:49] <gnomefreak> maybe since its still in cache it wont be too bad
[12:49] <gnomefreak> assuming its still in cache
[12:50] <thoreauputic> I think you can grep for the inode, but I forget the command
[12:50] <jrib> gnomefreak: if something has it open, you can
[12:51] <thoreauputic> ah yes, lsof ?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> jrib: nope nothing that im aware of had it open
[12:51] <jrib> /proc/pid/something
[12:53] <jrib> gnomefreak: don't know then
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ill just waste another day or 3 it was my messup
[12:54] <jrib> gnomefreak: libtrash was made for you
[12:58] <GazzaK> OMG two of them?
[01:03] <Tm_T> mneptok: pfft
[01:03] <Tm_T>  /me hides
[01:09] <Seveaz> GazzaK, BOO!
[01:09] <GazzaK> arghhhhhh
[01:10] <apokryphos> hey Seveaz, see the commotion before?
[01:10] <Seveaz> no
[01:10] <apokryphos> Seveaz: annoying flood in #ubuntu-devel that went on for a while, and no-one was around with ops (until some time later)
[01:10] <apokryphos> staffers aren't on the access list there too
[01:10] <Seveaz> hmm
[01:11] <apokryphos> we should add more people from the op team in there
[01:11] <Seveaz> ops team should leave -devel alone
[01:11] <Fujitsu> Throw in some more core-devs too, I think.
[01:11] <apokryphos> Seveaz: why?
[01:11] <GazzaK> and a bit of bacon and some pasta
[01:11] <Fujitsu> Seveaz: Why?
[01:11] <Seveaz> because they want that :)
[01:11] <gnomefreak> list as of now see !ops-#ubuntu-devel :)
[01:12] <apokryphos> it's not like we're really gonna interfere with the way they run it...
[01:15] <mneptok> Seveaz: i feel comfortable saying the devel folks want me to have ops. :)
[02:41] <Mez> why am i getting !ops call in -devel - i'm not an op there
[02:42] <mc44> Mez: has been fixed
[02:42] <Mez> :P
[02:42] <Mez> which way?
[02:42] <GazzaK> neutered
[02:43] <Mez> lol, depending on the person it gets fixed one way or another
[02:43] <Mez> 1) I get added to the op list or 2) I get removed from the ops call
[02:44] <mc44> Mez: /cs acess #ubuntu-devel list :p
[02:45] <GazzaK> Mez, they were all talking, then saw you and hid?
[02:45] <Mez> (no, since last use of chanserv in the channel
[02:46] <Mez> !ops-#ubuntu-devel
[02:46] <mc44> the bot it deaded
[02:46] <Mez> !ping
[02:46] <mc44> *is
[02:49] <Jucato> ubotu's dead... :(
[02:50] <Hobbsee> oh dear
[02:50] <Hobbsee> where's ubowo?
[02:51] <elkbuntu> hmm.. does anyone know if planet caches the heads, or pulls them directly from the source... i dont know if my planet hackergotchi simply calls on the launchpad hackergotchi or not, and if so, whether it is going to break planet if i make my launchpad head less stretched :-/
[02:51] <Jucato> ubotwo? :(
[02:52] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, do you know dear?
[02:52] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: um....it's taken from the bzr repo
[02:53] <Hobbsee> LP one is completely separate, iirc.  certainly was
[02:53] <elkbuntu> ok cool
[02:53] <elkbuntu> i just didnt want to inadvertently break planet the next time i decide to post :-/
[02:54] <elkbuntu> and the hackergotchi on https://launchpad.net/~melissa looks quite lame now
[02:56] <Hobbsee> heh
[02:56] <Hobbsee> yes
[02:56] <Jucato> stretchy... :(
[02:59] <elkbuntu> there we go.. no more stretchy :D
[03:00] <Jucato> we all look scary now, though... :/
[03:00] <elkbuntu> yeah
[03:00] <elkbuntu> because they changed the size of the hackergotchis
[03:01] <elkbuntu> now i need to think what to put as my logo.. if anything :
[03:02] <Jucato> yeah, just saw the logo feature now :)
[03:02] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: an australian flag, maybe
[03:02] <Hobbsee> temporarily
[03:02] <elkbuntu> sabdfl has a dragon, of course
[03:02] <Jucato> Dr. Doom?  At night, the ice-weasels come.
[03:48] <elkbuntu> !opsnack
[03:48] <ubotu> Peanuts!
[03:48] <elkbuntu> !usersnack
[03:48] <ubotu> Are peanut husks ok? The ops ate the nuts already...
[03:48] <GazzaK> lol,
[03:48] <poningru> rofl
[03:48] <SportChick> elkbuntu: I presume you got help already? :)
[03:49] <elkbuntu> SportChick, yeah
[03:49] <elkbuntu> -devel was spammerized :(
[03:49] <SportChick> it was 3AM when you pinged me :)  I was sleeping happily :)
[03:49] <elkbuntu> tis unspammerized now
[03:49] <SportChick> excellent :)
[03:50] <GazzaK> we had lame trolls in #gaygeeks too, they were naff
[03:50] <GazzaK> I demand better trolls
[03:50] <Pici> Be careful what you wish for...
[03:54] <effie_jayx> a guys like 10 hours ago siad he was leaving ubuntu for suse... he came here to say it...
[03:54] <effie_jayx> that was just about the lamest trolling I have ever seen
[03:54] <GazzaK> yeah
[03:54] <effie_jayx> I think the guy was scared of nalioth
[03:54] <elkbuntu> some trolls just dont understand the artform
[03:55] <GazzaK> we had a few a week or so ago, join #gaygeeks say "you are all gay" and leave, like, wow, really
[03:55] <effie_jayx> but then I decided to pass by some suse channels
[03:55] <elkbuntu> GazzaK, well *someone* had to tell youse ;)
[03:55] <effie_jayx> and they were all silent...
[03:55] <GazzaK> yeah, I just like totally forgot
[03:55] <effie_jayx> and then I said.... he is leaving ubuntu...
[03:55] <effie_jayx> good luck
[03:55] <effie_jayx> as I was in a channel
[03:56] <elkbuntu> GazzaK, so easy to do, i'm sure
[03:56] <effie_jayx> trolls joined suse... and the same people in the channel started agreeing with the trolls :S
[03:56] <GazzaK> yeah, you wake up in the morning and it's like "woahh, who are you, male being in my bed, get out"
[03:56] <effie_jayx> the trolls were left without a troll party
[03:57] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  do you understand the artform?
[03:57] <effie_jayx> hehe
[03:57] <GazzaK> I got shouted at a few weeks ago in town, by a bible bloke (guy standing on the corner with a bible) me and the boyf sat down opposite and held hands
[03:58] <mc44> GazzaK: :D
[03:58] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, there are some trolls that you're too busy laughing at to reprimand... that is artful trolling
[03:58] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  hehe
[03:59] <elkbuntu> if you find yourself relinquishing to letting them stay just to see how else they can amuse you, they have truely mastered it
[03:59] <GazzaK> yeah, those are good trolls, very rare nowadays
[03:59] <elkbuntu> i know :(
[03:59] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  I came far too late to the gnu/linux world ... for me to learn the trolling arts
[03:59] <GazzaK> sadly now we just get the chav-trolls :-(
[04:00] <effie_jayx> GazzaK,  chav?
[04:00] <LjL> well, i'm trying to use gnome, so i can become an *informed* KDE fanboy troll hopefully
[04:00] <elkbuntu> we still do get the occasional one.. such as JBJ for example. the only reason nobody's banned him from lists is that it's too amusing to watch for his next retarded mail
[04:01] <GazzaK> effie_jayx, you'll have to look at chavscum.co.uk I think
[04:01] <GazzaK> effie_jayx, NSFW
[04:01] <effie_jayx> ok
[04:02] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, PhinnFort said: !remember is back is good
[04:02] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, cntb said: !remember ok is ok
[04:03] <elkbuntu> ...
[04:04] <effie_jayx> GazzaK, that don hassel the hoff shirt is terrible
[04:06] <effie_jayx> GazzaK,  see you even killed Seveaz with that url
[04:15] <gnomefreak> incoming
[04:16] <gnomefreak> ok im out for a bit. i didnt ban him that i remember. Aqwis was banned from #ubuntu and wants to know why.
[04:16] <Aqwis> :)
[04:16] <Aqwis> i wasn't banned last evening, i joined, didn't say anything that might've gotten me banned, left, and today i'm banned
[04:19] <LjL> Aqwis, i'll check, one moment
[04:19] <mneptok> Aqwis: i see nothing matcing your nick, ident, or host that would keep you out of #ubuntu
[04:20] <PriceChild> Aqwis, I can't find anything on the bantracker... are you totally sure you can't join?
[04:20] <mneptok> *matching
[04:20] <Aqwis> "#ubuntu You're banned from that channel" when i try to join
[04:21] <Aqwis> oh wait
[04:21] <Aqwis> perhaps you've banned users using java web clients?
[04:21] <LjL> look at the realname...
[04:21] <Aqwis> :)
[04:21] <mneptok> Aqwis: 10:20 CTCP VERSION reply from Aqwis: PJIRC 2.2.1
[04:21] <LjL> yes Aqwis, that is it
[04:21] <Aqwis> mkay
[04:21] <mneptok> Aqwis: we think alike
[04:21] <Aqwis> i'll install a proper client then ;)
[04:21] <Aqwis> sorry for wasting your time
[04:21] <LjL> !irc
[04:21] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[04:21] <mneptok> Aqwis: you obviously have Java installed.
[04:21] <LjL> Aqwis, sorry for the ban. but we get a bit too much abuse from java gateways/clients
[04:21] <mneptok> Aqwis: wait before you install anything?
[04:22] <Aqwis> yeah, i understand that LjL
[04:22] <mneptok> Aqwis: stand by. i'll hook you up.
[04:22] <Aqwis> :)
[04:22] <mneptok> http://jirc.hick.org/cgi-bin/launch.jnlp?irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-ops
[04:24] <mneptok> there ya go
[04:24] <Aqwis> nice
[04:24] <Aqwis> thanks a lot :)
[04:25] <mneptok> sorry for the confusion. save the URL. - http://jirc.hick.org/cgi-bin/launch.jnlp?irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
[04:25] <mneptok> gah
[04:31] <mc44> elkbuntu: http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elkbuntumy8.jpg
[04:31] <elkbuntu> hahahah.. cool
[05:12] <ubotu> neozen called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:21] <elkbuntu> i had to look twice at that nick...
[05:22] <Hobbsee> same here
[05:48] <Mez> ?/
[09:43] <PriceChild> * wo0lverine<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[10:18] <ubotu> xtknight called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:19] <Pricey> Help!!!
[10:19] <ikonia> well that was interesting
[10:29] <Tm_T> hjelp!
[10:41] <ubotu> In ubotu, strog_ said: this is the link to the CAD program
[10:42] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, strog_ said: ubotu: this is the link of the CAD program, http://www.cadsoft.de/cgi-bin/download.pl?page=/home/cadsoft/html_public/download.htm.en&dir=eagle/program/4.1
[10:52] <ubotu> In ubotu, stra said: !foo is <reply> hi
[10:52] <ubotu> In ubotu, stra said: !foo is <reply>  a


[00:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wireguard-linux-compat (eoan-proposed/universe) [1.0.20200506-1~19.10.1 => 1.0.20200506-1~19.10.2] (no packageset)
[01:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-os-ken [source] (focal-proposed) [1.0.0-0ubuntu1.1]
[01:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-oslo.service [source] (focal-proposed) [2.1.1-0ubuntu1.1]
[07:49] <locutus_> vorlon, look e.g. http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/b/bilibop/groovy/amd64
[07:50] <locutus_> and people reporting "can't boot properly with -proposed enabled"
[07:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wireguard-linux-compat (eoan-proposed/universe) [1.0.20200506-1~19.10.1 => 1.0.20200506-1~19.10.2] (no packageset)
[07:50] <locutus_> and even after uploading the "ubuntu2" (that is bit-bit the same as the one in release), the autopkgtests still were bad
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected wireguard-linux-compat [source] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.20200506-1~19.10.2]
[08:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wireguard-linux-compat [source] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.20200506-1~19.10.2]
[09:02] <juliank> heads up that apt 2.1.3 seems to have broken dpkg --unpack/-i && apt-get install -f type scenarios, which breaks autopkgtest amongst other things
[09:03] <juliank> So it won't make it out of proposed, as it can't satisfy its own test dependencies :D
[09:03] <juliank> But still might cause some trouble with all-proposed runs, for example
[09:17] <Laney> any reason to keep it in proposed?
[09:26] <sil2100> Should I drop it from -proposed then?
[09:26] <Laney> juliank: ^----
[09:26] <Laney> sil2100: (imho yes)
[09:27] <juliank> Laney: We can, yes
[09:27] <juliank> sil2100: ^
[09:27] <juliank> Now releasing 2.1.4
[09:27] <juliank> so I could locally sync that and avoid extra work on your side
[09:28] <juliank> but it's a bit of a meh situation I suppose
[09:30] <sil2100> juliank: it's not a big deal, let me remove it then
[09:51] <seb128> could someone from the SRU team review vala/focal? it's needed to fix bug #1878361 (we need the fixed vala then to rebuild the application)
[10:44] <locutus_> hello vorlon do you think we can kick out from release scap-security-guide? its preventing python3-only pyyaml migration
[10:45] <locutus_> its out from debian testing
[10:49] <seb128> bdmurray, ^ if you could review the vala SRU later maybe?
[10:55] <locutus_> do we still need mongodb? xnox ?
[11:06] <locutus_> vorlon, regarding your hint on r-bioc-rhdf5/amd64, looks like the new r-cran-testthat (probably) started running tests, so they are not a real regression, just they were not run before
[11:07] <locutus_> or the new pkg-r-autopkgtest probably
[11:08] <locutus_> in any case, not a regression
[11:09] <locutus_> this is something that introduced lots of regression in other r-* packages too, specially s390x, holding almost all the ongoing transitions
[11:24] <xnox> locutus_:  we want to rip out src:mongodb, but we had a vague plan to upload src:mongodb-sspl into multiverse. But i'm not sure if that has happened yet. (and thus offer users some continiuty)
[11:24] <xnox> locutus_:  but also i think we still had a few packages in universe that reference mongodb, and that should be dropped and/or demoted from Depends to something lower.
[11:25] <xnox> Reverse-Build-Depends-Indep
[11:25] <xnox> * aodh                          (for mongodb)
[11:25] <xnox> * zaqar                         (for mongodb)
[11:26] <xnox> i think will fail, if we demote src:mongodb to multiverse as src:mongodb-sspl but not sure.
[11:26] <xnox> actually maybe it should work hm.... I can't remember if universe builds, are allowed to build-depend on multiverse or not.
[11:26] <xnox> (i know that binaries may not depend, but can't remember if it was allowed in Ubuntu, to be used during build)
[11:29] <cjwatson> They aren't
[11:29] <cjwatson> Build-dependencies downward in supportedness are allowed nowadays, but not downward in freedom
[11:31] <xnox> cjwatson:  thank you! that makes sense.
[11:31] <xnox> (i.e. restricted can build-depend on multiverse)
[11:35] <cjwatson> Yes
[12:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [s390x] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-32.36] (core, kernel)
[12:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (focal-proposed/main) [20.04.0-1 => 20.04.0-2~ubuntu20.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-32.36] (core, kernel)
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [arm64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-32.36] (core, kernel)
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-32.36] (core, kernel)
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (focal-proposed) [5.4.0-32.36]
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [5.4.0-32.36]
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [arm64] (focal-proposed) [5.4.0-32.36]
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [s390x] (focal-proposed) [5.4.0-32.36]
[12:59] <locutus_> aodh and zaqar needs merge from debian?
[13:00] <locutus_> in Debian they use pymongo
[13:00] <locutus_> (and suggest mongodb)
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (eoan-proposed/main) [2.2.0-4ubuntu1 => 2.2.0-4ubuntu1.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[13:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (bionic-proposed/main) [1.16.1-1ubuntu1.5 => 1.16.1-1ubuntu1.6] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[14:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: evince (focal-proposed/main) [3.36.0-2 => 3.36.1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-102.103] (core, kernel)
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.4.0-180.210] (core, kernel)
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-102.103] (core, kernel)
[14:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.4.0-180.210]
[14:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-102.103]
[14:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-102.103]
[14:50] <cking> hi there, i'd like to get 0.05.23-1ubuntu3 in xenial released, it fixes an issue found in testing during for 0.05.23-1ubuntu2, can this be nudged
[15:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron-dynamic-routing [source] (focal-proposed) [2:16.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted networking-hyperv [source] (focal-proposed) [1:8.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted networking-bgpvpn [source] (focal-proposed) [12.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted networking-odl [source] (focal-proposed) [1:16.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted networking-sfc [source] (focal-proposed) [10.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron-fwaas [source] (focal-proposed) [1:16.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron-vpnaas [source] (focal-proposed) [2:16.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted octavia [source] (focal-proposed) [6.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:18] <vorlon> locutus_: wrt the initramfs-tools merge, if you used MoM for the merge, did you happen to verify that none of the scripts that were +x in the earlier tarball had been made -x by the merge?
[16:23] <vorlon> because MoM seems to have an annoying bug in this regard which has defied fixing
[16:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted swift [source] (focal-proposed) [2.25.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:23] <vorlon> locutus_: pyyaml seems to have migrated and is now only NBS?
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted manila [source] (focal-proposed) [1:10.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mistral [source] (focal-proposed) [10.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apparmor (focal-proposed/main) [2.13.3-7ubuntu5 => 2.13.3-7ubuntu5.1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted senlin [source] (focal-proposed) [9.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted watcher [source] (focal-proposed) [1:4.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: umis [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.0.7-1] (no packageset)
[17:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: umis [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.0.7-1] (no packageset)
[17:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: umis [armhf] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.0.7-1] (no packageset)
[17:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: umis [arm64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.0.7-1] (no packageset)
[17:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: masakari (focal-proposed/main) [9.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 9.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: umis [riscv64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.0.7-1] (no packageset)
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sahara [source] (focal-proposed) [1:12.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[18:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted vala [source] (focal-proposed) [0.48.6-0ubuntu1]
[18:57] <bdmurray> dannf`: Did you do the regression test in bug 1875984?
[19:29] <dannf`> bdmurray: i don't recall - but i just did. it worked, i'll note as much in the bug
[19:29] <coreycb> bdmurray: I have just one more upload in the focal unapproved queue to fix a component mismatch for masakari
[19:29] <coreycb> bdmurray: vorlon: thanks for all the reviews, really appreciate it
[19:30] <bdmurray> coreycb: I looked but was waiting for it to migrate in groovy
[19:30] <coreycb> bdmurray: ah cool, good idea
[19:31] <bdmurray> coreycb: if you see it migrate feel free to ping me
[19:31] <coreycb> bdmurray: sounds good, I'll keep an eye on it and will let you know
[20:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: python-masakariclient (groovy-proposed/primary) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[21:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-meta [source] (focal-proposed) [1.450.1]
[21:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sbuild-launchpad-chroot [source] (focal-proposed) [0.16ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[21:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sbuild-launchpad-chroot [source] (eoan-proposed) [0.15ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[21:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sbuild-launchpad-chroot [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.14ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[21:21] <coreycb> bdmurray: masakari has migrated in groovy
[21:23] <bdmurray> coreycb: ack
[21:28] <kanashiro> hi, I am investigating why genshi is blocked in proposed for 18 days and I noticed python 2 binary package was dropped in this new version and in the excuses page says that python-genshi is missing
[21:28] <kanashiro> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#genshi
[21:28] <kanashiro> I also did not find any reverse dependency
[21:29] <kanashiro> does anyone has a clue on how to unblock it?
[21:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted yaru-theme [source] (focal-proposed) [20.04.7]
[21:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted adwaita-icon-theme [source] (focal-proposed) [3.36.1-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[21:43] <vorlon> kanashiro: that's an awkward thing in britney because the package moved from building an arch: any binary to now only building arch: all binaries; so it miscalculates whether a build is missing
[21:44] <vorlon> kanashiro: I'll just axe the python-genshi binaries from groovy (after double-checking no revdeps) and that will clear it
[21:45] <kanashiro> vorlon: ah right, thank you for that
[21:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted masakari [source] (focal-proposed) [9.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[22:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tilda [source] (focal-proposed) [1.5.2-0ubuntu1]
[22:36] <bdmurray> hrrm, sru-review is hung and I don't know what its up to