[12:12] <Minataku> coreymon77: Watch, now it's not gonna crash on him
[12:12] <Minataku> XD
[12:13] <evsophomore2009> Coreymon: figures, it dosent crash when the Terminal is up
[12:14] <coreymon77> evsophomore2009: i have a feeling this isnt mozilla or firefoxes fault
[12:14] <evsophomore2009> when i close the terminal, it closes also..which makes sence, but when i open firefox without the terminal, it closes when i type in youtube.com
[12:14] <coreymon77> i have a feeling that something has to be wrong with your system, things dont jsut crash
[12:15] <evsophomore2009> anyway you can help
[12:15] <coreymon77> yup, thers a problem wiht your system, mine didnt crash
[12:15] <coreymon77> i dont knwo what the problem is
[12:15] <binvij> where can i get the source for kubunut
[12:15] <binvij> *kubuntu
[12:18] <zipper> it could be a firefox plugin / mplayer / vlc /whatever crashing firefox whenever he enters a page that contains videos?
[12:18] <evsophomore2009> Zipper: its not just vids
[12:21] <ron_> hi, I am a new user who has just installed his first version of kubuntu feisty.  I would like to get the Win32 codecs for watching the Win media (cough) that I have to watch from various places.  Where do I get those codecs for Kubunutu feisty, please?
[12:21] <sigbjorn> hi,trying to find som help! Just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and trying to install Linuxmce - however I do not have enough disc space on this drive (5GB). How can I easily uninstall all default and unneeded applications that gets installed with kubuntu to free up disc space for linuxmce?
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> !codecs | ron_
[12:22] <ubotu> ron_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: thats an awful small drive. how are you expecting to store any media on it?
[12:23] <sigbjorn> well, its actually 40gb - but inly 5gb is for ubuntu
[12:23] <sigbjorn> media is stored on another partition
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: ah... well you MIGHT want to repartition.
[12:23] <ron_> nosrednaekim: thanks!  I try not to use closed formats, but sometimes I have to see something in Win formats.  Thanks for your help!
[12:23] <sigbjorn> I thougth 5gb was enough for kubuntu + linuxmce, but guess I was wrong then. difficult to find how much space is needed for both of them
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> ron_: did that page have what you wanted?
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: I would give it at least 10 GB.
[12:26] <sigbjorn> hm, will try to do that, but with 10gb winxp + 10gb kubuntu I only have 20gb for media :( . will try to increase the space with gparted though. I just wondered if there was some big applications that came with kubuntu that I could try to uninstall before I delete files
[12:27] <ICM> bye all, gotta install Kubuntu Server on my server
[12:27] <ICM> goodbye Gentoo!
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: there is of course all of KDE... if you want a lightweight one(use Xubuntu)
[12:27] <jriachi> (mmm... has anyone ever thought that ubuntu -as in "ubuntu-desktop"/"download ubuntu" should be called gubuntu? and reserve ubuntu for the whole project?)
[12:27] <ICM> Aswell as install KUbuntu on my desktop (after I install XP)
[12:27] <rathel> lol How do I make Backspace, Back In firefox, like it is in Windows?
[12:27] <ICM> dual boot = win
[12:27] <Ayabara> I used gnome-art in ubuntu for getting desktop backgrounds and stuff. Is there a similar app for kde?
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: browse to "www.kde-look.com"
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> and yes, I believe there is a way to fetch wallpapers
[12:28] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: thanks.
[12:28] <sigbjorn> also - how do I find how much free space is available on the current drive?
[12:29] <jriachi> sigbjorn: in a konsole: df -h , i think that with a konqueror->right-click->properties you can also see it
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: df
[12:30] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: wrong link, it's .org, not .com :-)
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: sorry!
[12:31] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: no problem.
[12:32] <sigbjorn> jriachi: works in konqueror for the different media catalogues (cdrom/sda1-2-3-5) but not on the rootcatalogue itself, however found out that /dev/sda7/ (which I assume is the current partition) is 100% full
[12:32] <sigbjorn> by using df -h
[12:33] <jriachi> sigbjorn: i am more used to the console commands than to their gui couterparts
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: do a df and then look for the partition named "/"
[12:34] <sigbjorn> nosrednaekim: yes this was sda7 mounted as / - 100% full
[12:34] <sigbjorn> and its 4 GB
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: ouch.. that IS cutting it close.
[12:35] <sigbjorn> yup :P
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> its the last partition on your disc.... can you repartition and give it like 4 more? I'm sure that would be fine
[12:36] <sigbjorn> not sure if its the last one, but I have gparted on a usb and will try to start it and grab some more space
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: k
[12:36] <sigbjorn> not sure if I can do it within kubuntu
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> sigbjorn: yes, you can..."fdisk". But gparted would probably be better
[12:37] <sigbjorn> oki, thanks - will try to boot gparted first and see if it is enough just to copy the files to a USB-disk and then try to boot from it
[12:39] <jriachi> i am running kubuntu, if i install ubuntu-destkop (i want to test gnome), will it change anything in my current setup (appart from new menu entries)?... i mean will default applications change, will gdm override kdm or anything?
[12:41] <Dragnslcr> Not sure, but Gnome might be set as your default window manager. I wouldn't think it would change anything else
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: you can select between KDM and gdm. no, it shouldn't change your K menu (besides adding new things)
[12:42] <jriachi> (i still think that they should call it gubuntu-desktop...:) )
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: lol
[12:44] <jriachi> nosrednaekim: when i read "how to do Foo in ubuntu"... sometimes aplies to kubuntu (e.g. doc about the sudo thing) and sometimes doesn't (e.g. doc about beryl)
[12:44] <jriachi> and that is confusing
[12:44] <amnesiac> good evening phreakers hihihih
[12:46] <amnesiac> marcelo is in a on off zone i think  lol
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: yeah, thats why I have both installed (so I have all the programs and such.
[12:47] <jriachi> yes... but still I think that a part shouldn't be called like the whole... specially in a case like this where confussion is so probable (and prone to cause trouble)
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: Ubuntu is all the rage.if you are running kubuntu, its almost as if you aren't using ubuntu at all almost a debian disto.
[12:52] <lolopop> hi
[12:53] <lolopop> LVM anyone?
[12:53] <jriachi> lolopop: no thanks, i only smoke tobacco
[12:54] <lolopop> jriachi: HA HA HA HA HA, sooo funny
[12:55] <jriachi> (sorry, i didn't wanted to type it... a green dwarf told me to)
[12:56] <jriachi> and btw, someday i have to start trying lvm... is it easy to setup?
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: sorry missed it.. what did you say?
[12:56] <sebastian_> how i can get ffmpeg package ?
[12:56] <hitmanWilly> sebastian_, apt-get
[12:57] <sebastian_> i try whit sudo apt-get and no way
[12:57] <amnesiac> look for the gstreamer-ffmpeg under adept
[12:57] <aroo> How can I remove the mounted device icons from my desktop? Things like 2 USB devices and CDROM drive. I have "show device icons" unchecked in Desktop Behavior but the icons persist.
[12:57] <hitmanWilly> sebastian_, it may be under libffmpeg
[12:57] <hitmanWilly> sebastian_, or something similar
[12:58] <amnesiac> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer-all
[12:58] <sebastian_> i try to by libffmpeg and nothing
[12:58] <amnesiac> or something like that use the tab key in the konsole
[12:58] <amnesiac> you  will find it
[12:58] <lolopop> LVM easy to set up? Not if you are trying to put root in LVM which IS WHAT TF I want
[12:58] <jriachi> aroo: in general   unckeck the show icons, aply.. check show icons
[12:59] <sebastian_> amnesiac all the time say the system cant find the package
[12:59] <lolopop> ubuntu's lvm text based is the crappiest software around the world after m$$$
[12:59] <aroo> jriachi: I did and the icons just come right back even though they're still unchecked
[01:00] <jriachi> aroo: open a konsole ---> killall kdesktop ; kdesktop
[01:00] <amnesiac> are you still mounted jriachi ??
[01:00] <jriachi> amnesiac: uh?
[01:01] <aroo> jriachi: Just did and they came back :(
[01:02] <jriachi> aroo: it happened to me, but restarting the desktop solved it :S
[01:02] <aroo> Argh!
[01:02] <jriachi> (are you sure you have it unchecked? try unchecking every device type or something.... i dunno how to help :S)
[01:03] <aroo> Yea, I'm staring at it right now and it's not checked
[01:04] <aroo> It's alright I'll just play around
[01:06] <jriachi> (please, anyone give me a reason to stop playing with kubuntu and start studing Comm. Electronics, please...)
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> jriachi: don't!
[01:08] <jriachi> btw, in English.. an amplificator is a "tetrapole/cuadripole/quadpole/...?"
[01:21] <raymond> my optical drives no longer auto mount when medium is put in
[01:22] <hgarcia> does anyone have kubuntu on a laptop with a ATI video card?
[01:23] <SlimeyPete> yes
[01:23] <SlimeyPete> ATI 200M
[01:23] <hgarcia> thats what I have too
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> hgarcia: yep integrated though.
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> I have a Xpress1100
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> which is the same as a 200M
[01:23] <raymond> !mount
[01:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:24] <raymond> !DiskMounter
[01:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:24] <hgarcia> have you upgraded your video drivers?
[01:24] <raymond> !fstab
[01:24] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:24] <raymond> urg
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> hgarcia: I installed the fglrx ones, yeah.
[01:24] <hgarcia> I did that too
[01:25] <hgarcia> have you gone to ati and downloaded and installed the newer driver?
[01:25] <SlimeyPete> no
[01:26] <SlimeyPete> I haven't had any reason to do so
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> I have the default fglrx ones, everything working fine
[01:26] <raymond> !automount
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <hgarcia> in the systems setting there is a option for standard or proprietry. Which one do you have selected?
[01:28] <icatalina> hi
[01:28] <icatalina> i need to set a file as hide on a windows (fat32) partition from ubuntu, any idea?
[01:29] <revvltn> hi
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> hgarcia: prorpietary (if that is the resctited-manager)
[01:29] <revvltn> would it work to transplant the directories into a LVM partitions then boot off them
[01:29] <revvltn> ?
[01:29] <revvltn> of course editing fstab accordingly
[01:30] <revvltn> will Kubuntu go haywire? Or would it boot fine as if nothing ever happened?
[01:30] <hgarcia> ok, t hanks
[01:33] <gio> I'm trying to use this program..I'm sorry if I make some mistakes!
[01:34] <gio> Right..Hello to all the community!
[01:34] <amnesiac> hai gio
[01:34] <gio> Hi amnesiac!
[01:36] <gio> So I have understood correctly, this program allow me to log in into a common chat, with several argument..
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> yes
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> lots of channels are available
[01:36] <gio> Great! By default, I've found this kubuntu channel..
[01:37] <sebastian_> help i cant use the gedit i try to donwload the packages but i cant i have the ubuntu 5.1 i dont know whats is wrong
[01:38] <gio> Sebastian,which is the error message?
[01:40] <joaoluiz> Aloo
[01:40] <joaoluiz> Hi
[01:41] <gio> Hi!
[01:41] <joaoluiz> can i help me?
[01:41] <DudeMeister> anybody know how to get beryl to start by default?
[01:41] <joaoluiz> I'm Brazilian.. and you?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> DudeMeister: you're not using XGl are you?
[01:42] <gio> You have to install it, and than, if I rember well, It's sufficient to go into the beryl menu and press start
[01:42] <sebastian_> gio say the sytem cant find the package , for fix it's up-loadig the system i use apt-get aptitude upload and cant read the packages so cant download and i cant change the sources list becouse dont work the gedit
[01:44] <DudeMeister> no i'm using aiglx
[01:44] <DudeMeister> nvm i figured it out
[01:45] <gio> have you tried kate or nano?
[01:45] <ejortegau> hi guys. small question: any work arounds to get gmail working with konqueror? currently using kde 3.5.6 on kubuntu 7.04
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> DudeMeister- symlink beryl-manager to ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:45] <joaoluiz> anybody help me ?
[01:46] <joaoluiz> i'm brazilian
[01:46] <gio> @ejortegau: I can't understand the problem..you want to see gmail by konqueror?
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> joaoluiz- sorry, we can't help with that
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: lol
[01:46] <joaoluiz> thanks
[01:46] <gio> joauluiz
[01:46] <ejortegau> gio: yes, withouth having to resort to basic html view
[01:46] <joaoluiz> fuck you!
[01:46] <gio> wich is the problem?
[01:47] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- heh, it was way too easy
[01:47] <joaoluiz> sorry
[01:47] <ejortegau> gio: well, it shows the loading  thing, then page goes blank, nothing else happens... does it work for you?
[01:47] <joaoluiz> hi gio
[01:47] <joaoluiz> sorry my english
[01:47] <gio> @ejorte: now I try
[01:47] <BluesKaj> !br | joaoluiz
[01:48] <ubotu> joaoluiz: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:48] <joaoluiz> obrigado
[01:48] <joaoluiz> i'm sorry! again
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: gmail seems to be working for me..
[01:50] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: that's strange... it doesn't work here... what kubuntu/kde version are you running? and what are your settings for user agent in konq?
[01:50] <gio> @ejorte: My konqueror doesn't connect totally!:(
[01:50] <ejortegau> gio: lol, you have more problems than i do...
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: OTOH, it just did something wierd.
[01:51] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: what?
[01:51] <gio> In fact I work with firefox!
[01:51] <gio> Now I try again..this is a fu*king starnge thing!
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> all of a sudden it started reloading, and then right when it was finished, it started reloading again
[01:52] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: i'll try again on mine
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: yeah, its not working here
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> which is really sad
[01:53] <ejortegau> yeah... i really like konq over ff... sad thing is gmail doesn't work
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... well you can always set gmail up with POP forwarding.
[01:54] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: yeah, i guess...
[01:54] <gio> If you use thunderburd or a generic client it's quite simple
[01:54] <ejortegau> i had it with kmail an my old computer
[01:55] <gio> but my konqueror doesn't work!
[01:55] <ejortegau> well, thanks anyway, guys
[01:55] <ejortegau> g2g
[01:55] <ejortegau> cya
[01:55] <gio> Kmail, right, it's good working
[01:59] <rathel> I'm having a problem, I have a windows computer with RDP enabled, I go into KRDC and do: rdp:/(ip address) and then I get an error message saying:  Could not start rdesktop: make sure rdesktop is properly installed. What am I doing wrong?
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> rathel: is rdesktop installed?
[02:01] <rathel> nosrednaekim: hmm.. lemme double-check.
[02:02] <rathel> nosrednaekim: lol It is now. XD
[02:02] <rathel> I feel so stupid now. lol
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> rathel: hehe... thats why you ALWAYS follow the error messages
[02:05] <soulrider> !iso
[02:05] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:15] <klobster> do I _need_ the kopt= line in my ./grub/menu.lst?
[02:18] <stdin> klobster: it's used when grub automatically updates it's list. ie: when you install a new kernel
[02:21] <klobster> so it shouldn't affect my regular boot routines?
[02:24] <klobster> stdin: because my system appears to be hanging during boot
[02:25] <stdin> klobster: no, it has nothing to do with booting
[02:27] <klobster> stdin: do you know of any kernel options I can add to the kernel line of my grub to make it more verbose?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Warning ! if you update your kernel , grub may be overwritten and not boot properly ...it happened to me yeaterday
[02:27] <BluesKaj> yesterday
[02:28] <stdin> klobster: take off the "splash" option, and (to be even more verbose) remove "quiet"
[02:28] <stdin> BluesKaj: how can the kernel overwrite grub?
[02:28] <klobster> BluesKaj: neither <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> will boot
[02:28] <BluesKaj> stdin, good question ..dunno how it happened
[02:28] <klobster> stdin: is there a way to make it more verbose than that?
[02:29] <klobster> it's something to do with /dev(h|s)da
[02:29] <stdin> klobster: maybe add "verbose" to the commands
[02:30] <stdin> klobster: sounds like it's running fsck
[02:30] <klobster> wouldn't it tell me that?
[02:31] <klobster> also if I leave it (for over an hour at one point) it's still hung
[02:31] <stdin> well, it would say fsck was running
[02:31] <BluesKaj> BTW I used synaptic to upgrade , that could have been my mistake , dunno why
[02:31] <klobster> Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom    is the last msg I see
[02:33] <metbsd> kubuntu is loading forever
[02:35] <level1> hello, if I have a seperate /home partition, is 6GB enough for my OS, so that my computer still runs very fast?
[02:35] <klobster> do you know what the datestamp is of files installed off the fiesty ISO?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> level1: 6 gigs..... i'd give it at least 8 to be safe
[02:36] <jriachi> level1, having separate partitions isn't related to computer speed (i think) :S
[02:36] <metbsd> i boot with kubuntu desktop iso, but it's loading forever
[02:36] <level1> jriachi: what I mean is, is 6GB enough to keep it running smoothly
[02:37] <level1> nosrednaekim: Is it worth repartitioning now that I've already reinstalled?
[02:37] <jriachi> i have installed kde+gnome and i occupies 2.1 G
[02:37] <level1> nosrednaekim: I'm not in a bind for space, I can allocated 10GB or 14GB if you think it will do any good
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> level1: oh you installed to 6gigs?
[02:37] <level1> yeah
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> what does a "df" give you for free space on your / partition?
[02:38] <level1> just today, I can still repartition, no problem
[02:38] <level1> > /dev/sda1             5.8G  2.2G  3.4G  40% /
[02:38] <level1> 3.4 is avail
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> level1: you should be fine
[02:39] <level1> okay, if it starts getting slow or troublesome I can always fix it, its just now is the easiest time to do that before I start putting stuff on here
[02:41] <level1> hmmm... amarok seems to have forgetten things like which mp3's I listened to the most... can I get that data back?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> level1: its not a problem with speed; its a problem with installing more programs
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> level1: did you save your previous home directory?
[02:44] <level1> nosrednaekim: yes
[02:44] <level1> nosrednaekim: I'm having trouble with mp3 support... is that in medibuntu or somewhere else?
[02:44] <Frederick> folks I installed a theme with the theme nanager and it broke my whole video
[02:44] <coreymon77> level1: was i talking to you earlier today?
[02:44] <Frederick> can I change it to a previous state?
[02:45] <level1> coreymon77: I don't remember you, but I used to be premier
[02:45] <coreymon77> level1: oh, then no
[02:47] <level1> !mp3
[02:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:48] <ChaosMachine> Er, could anyone help me with some issues on installing openchrome driver?
[02:49] <imanewbie> folkI need help a kde theme broke my whole xserver
[02:49] <imanewbie> I got the screen with double images and fliker
[02:49] <imanewbie> can I somehow come back to a previous state?
[02:50] <ChaosMachine> It says my IRQs are bad. And I need to unset LIBGL_THROTTLE_REFRESH and LIBL_SYNC_REFRESH. ;x
[02:51] <ChaosMachine> Or does anyone know how I can uninstall the driver so I can give it another try? D:
[02:52] <ygetartson> hey, why cant i download the kubuntu i386 dvd image?
[02:52] <level1> ygetartson: whats the problem
[02:52] <ygetartson> no matter what i try, the last 300 mb he doesnt get
[02:53] <level1> ygetartson: thats weird... are you using kget?
[02:53] <level1> try installing that and see if it works
[02:53] <ygetartson> in linux, i get a message: file size limit exceeded, core dumped
[02:53] <ygetartson> with wgit
[02:53] <ygetartson> wget
[02:53] <level1> ygetartson: oh... how much diskspace do you have?
[02:53] <level1> ygetartson: and what kind of filesystem is it?
[02:53] <ygetartson> i have 8gb left before dl start
[02:53] <ygetartson> ext3
[02:54] <ygetartson> i even tried on windows now, same problem
[02:54] <ygetartson> at the same amount of bits dled, dl stalls
[02:54] <ChaosMachine> wow this sucks...x.x
[02:54] <level1> ygetartson: some of the space is reserved for some reason, idk why... maybe you need to free up some space, is that possibel
[02:55] <ygetartson> what is that? its crazy...
[02:55] <ygetartson> hm
[02:55] <level1> ChaosMachine: I don't know about your problem, its a serious one... maybe try #ubuntu?
[02:56] <ygetartson> more than 4gb for security or so, dunno
[02:56] <ygetartson> but that is my last resort. ill do that tomorrow.
[02:56] <Frederick> folks a kde theme screwed my whole xserver can I have some help?
[02:57] <ygetartson> now im gonna have a good wank and go to bed. gnight folks!
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> Frederick- enable a different theme then? I'd be surprised if a theme could break X
[02:57] <level1> wank... langauge
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> If so, I'd say that's a problem with X
[02:58] <ChaosMachine> okay, I'll try it. ;o
[02:58] <Frederick> Dragnslcr: that is why im here
[02:58] <Frederick> it really broke
[02:58] <Frederick> I tried even xfce
[02:58] <Dragnslcr> Switching to a different theme and restarting X doesn't fix it?
[02:58] <Frederick> and I still with a messed screen how do I ask to apt-get to reconfigure my xserver
[02:58] <level1> Dragnslcr: how can Frederick change his theme if he can't get to the gui?   :P ... are there some German dudes?
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: right click on panel->remove panel-kasbar
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> What notification?
[03:01] <Frederick> if I could google I would but I can barely use irssi on kacontrol
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> !german | Schuenemann
[03:01] <ubotu> Schuenemann: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:01] <Schuenemann> nosrednaekim, oh... thanks
[03:01] <Frederick> feni: Ich kann ein bissien Deutch
[03:01] <Frederick> so folk pleose say me this command line for sakes
[03:02] <Frederick> it is something like apt-get install xorg --configure
[03:02] <Frederick> sooooooooooooo?
[03:03] <BluesKaj> Frederick, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:03] <feni> well ... i am 2 tired 4 translating ... or writing :P ... thx ... baibai
[03:03] <feni> Ahh frederick ... what didd happen to your xserver?
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> I don't have any annoying notifications in Gaim, so I have no idea what you're talking about
[03:03] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, I added a notification (popup+sound) for a friend when he logs in, now I can't remove it
[03:03] <feni> ... or your xorg
[03:04] <heroin>  /exit
[03:04] <feni> du u mean ... the psychoplugin?
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- you mean just for that specific contact?
[03:04] <Frederick> feni: I installed a theme and it broken my whole x
[03:04] <Schuenemann> exacly
[03:04] <Schuenemann> I only added for a perso
[03:05] <Frederick> resolution is goofed all is fucking goofed
[03:05] <feni> ... i know that ... but thats only in kde ... gaim+kde [03:05] <feni> problems
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- sounds like a Buddy Pounce
[03:05] <Schuenemann> what is a pounce?
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> An action that occurs in response to a specific event
[03:06] <feni> Frederick: go console ---> and type: sax2
[03:06] <Schuenemann> yes, when he logs in
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> e.g. sending a message when a contact comes online
[03:06] <feni> or switch to /etc/X11
[03:07] <Schuenemann> exacly, when he comes online
[03:07] <feni> an take a look in your xorg.conf
[03:08] <Schuenemann> how do I get rid of that?
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> I'm checking my settings to see if I can find it, Schuenemann
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> You can try right-clicking on the contact and going to Add Buddy Pounce
[03:08] <Frederick> feni: and?
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> Oh, duh
[03:08] <feni> then reset your xserver
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- check Tools -> Buddy Pounces
[03:08] <feni> aka restart
[03:08] <Schuenemann> let me see
[03:08] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, many pounces to that guy... I'll remove
[03:08] <Frederick> did it many times
[03:09] <feni> you opened sax2 many times?
[03:09] <Frederick> I re run  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:09] <Frederick> I got no sax2
[03:09] <feni> mhhh
[03:09] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, gaim UI seems horrible
[03:09] <feni> perhaps you have 2 be root?
[03:09] <Schuenemann> I clicked many times: stop monitoring presence or something
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- what version are you using?
[03:10] <feni> GAIM AND KDE IS HORRIBLE!
[03:10] <Frederick> command not found
[03:10] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, 1.5.0
[03:10] <Schuenemann> feni, nah, KDE rocks :)
[03:10] <lordblaa> hey guys - just trying to install ubuntu - ubiquity keeps hanging when i get to partition editor.. anything i can do?!
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- that's why, then. 2.0 is a huge improvement
[03:10] <Frederick> fuck ubuntu broken my system I damm need to use it I got a TON of works to do
[03:10] <lordblaa> oh jeez, just as i said that it started working
[03:10] <lordblaa> of course
[03:10] <lordblaa> bbl :D
[03:10] <ubuntu> my kde enviroment working well hehehe
[03:10] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, is it new? there isn't much time since I installed this one
[03:11] <Frederick> I will re start and pry brb
[03:11] <Frederick> but first
[03:11] <Frederick> oki my problem started when I tried to install a theme with the theme installer oki?
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- I have 2.0beta6 from the repository
[03:11] <Schuenemann> apt-get latest version is 1.2.0 heh
[03:11] <Schuenemann> still beta?
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> Not sure when Gaim will be replaces with Pidgin in the repository
[03:11] <feni> the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .... it should work also
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> Schuenemann- what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[03:12] <Schuenemann> Dragnslcr, edgy
[03:12] <Frederick> feni: tried
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> Ah, that may be why
[03:12] <feni> well well ... finally i would edit my xorg.config on my own ... sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> Dunno if they'll bother putting 2.0 into Edgy's repository
[03:13] <feni> take a look in it
[03:13] <erichj> gaim will be replaced with pidgin with gutsy
[03:13] <Frederick> feni: it is open
[03:13] <Schuenemann> I'll switch to feisty someday
[03:13] <feni> paste the important lines
[03:14] <Frederick> I got an ati radeon mobility as video card
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> I'm still hoping Kopete will catch up a bit more with Pidgin in the near future. Couple little things that kinda annoyed me the last time I tried it
[03:14] <Frederick> should I reboot now?
[03:14] <feni> what did u change?
[03:15] <Frederick> feni: nothing
[03:15] <feni> :P
[03:15] <MECU> I'm running ./configure and I get an error "syntax error near unexpected token 'MJPEG,'
[03:15] <sebastian_> everybody is fron usa in here?
[03:15] <Frederick> I dunno what to change and I cant google
[03:15] <feni> man ...
[03:15] <Schuenemann> kopete is annoying
[03:15] <feni> try it
[03:15] <feni> kopete sucks
[03:15] <Frederick> feni: it seems normal
[03:15] <feni> write it 2 me
[03:15] <Frederick> how the hell I will edit something I dunno
[03:15] <feni> send me your conf
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> I think Kopete will make a lot of improvements in the next year or so
[03:15] <Frederick> feni: I will flood you in pvt oki?
[03:16] <feni> kk
[03:16] <n8k99> Dragnslcr: i do like that kopete has video conferencing built in
[03:16] <Schuenemann> Graphic card question: what would perform better, a geforce 32 MB nvidia or a geforce 64 MB non-nvidia?
[03:16] <n8k99> instead of having to use a separate app like when using pidgin
[03:17] <voidmage> wow.
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> n8k99- yeah, I noticed on my parents' computer that their webcam automagically worked in Kopete
[03:17] <voidmage> in konqueror web browsing
[03:17] <voidmage> if i want to upload files
[03:17] <voidmage> i can STILL use KIO
[03:17] <voidmage> talk about well done.
[03:18] <voidmage> too bad konqueror isn't a great browser.
[03:18] <n8k99> Dragnslcr: it still doesnt do aol webcam but there is hopw
[03:18] <n8k99> s/hope/hopw
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> I think the only annoyances I had were the interface for handling metacontacts and needing something like 4 clicks to set an away status and message
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> I figure those are probably fairly high on the list of UI improvements though
[03:20] <dangbert> I have an install question,
[03:20] <n8k99> rightclick on the systray icon- set away status in the service menu
[03:21] <sebastian_> i cant see mpeg videos somebody can help me?
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> Does that also set the away message?
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> sebastian_- think you need the libxine-ffmpeg package
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> !mpeg
[03:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:22] <n8k99> Dragnslcr: oh yes- systray icon:: RMB(clock) >Status> Away(click)
[03:22] <n8k99> erm click for clock
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[03:22] <sebastian_> Dragnslcr yes i try the all for donwload the package but nothing works i dont know whats wrong
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> sebastian_- open up Adept, see if libxine-ffmpeg is installed
[03:23] <sebastian_> no is not installed
[03:23] <sebastian_> i dont have the package
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> n8k99- maybe I'll spend a little time tomorrow messing around with Kopete again
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> sebastian_- I think that's the one that has the mpeg decoder for stuff like Kaffeine
[03:24] <dangbert> Here is the problem, I have a Gateway GT5220 that came with XP installed on a 250gig hd.  I tried to load Kubuntu and got an error message saying "APIC" was not tied to the timer.  I booted with the "noapic" option and it started to load.  Then it errored out with the following messages:
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> n8k99- have you noticed a bug with the history where it only actually logs messages if you have the "show previous messages in new chat window" option turned on?
[03:24] <dangbert> 1) FS: cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block
[03:24] <dangbert> 2) Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[03:25] <n8k99> Dragnslcr: no i haven't- but i don't grep through my kopete logs often
[03:25] <ubuntu__> hello
[03:25] <dangbert> 3) Kernel panic - not syncing:VFS" unable to mount root FS on unknown-block (8,1)
[03:25] <ubuntu__> can u tell me pls if i can install mp3 support running live cd??
[03:25] <ubuntu__> pls
[03:25] <ubuntu__> help me
[03:26] <sebastian_> i try to get by sudo but say cant find tha package then i try to upload  the souces.list but the gedit dont work
[03:26] <ChaosMachine> level1: Interesting thing about my video card problem, it was because I didnt have onboard set on primary in the bios.
[03:26] <ubuntu__> pls somebody
[03:26] <level1> ubuntu__: it should be the same as without the liveCD
[03:26] <ubuntu__> why cant i play an mp3 file running live cd
[03:26] <level1> ubuntu__: its a long story
[03:27] <level1> !mp3 | ubuntu__
[03:27] <ubotu> ubuntu__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:27] <ubuntu__> tell me if i install kubuntu will i have also the decoders
[03:28] <ubuntu__> or i have to search it on synaptic
[03:28] <ubuntu__> pls somebody give me an answer
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu__: there is no OS in existence that comes with every codec by default
[03:29] <sebastian_> ubuntu_  you need the codecs for the not free formats
[03:29] <sebastian_> like mp3
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu__: its a legal issue nothing to do with the OS itself
[03:30] <ubuntu__> yeah but searching for them in synaptic gives no results
[03:30] <ubuntu__> what shall i do?
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu__:  just install  the xine-extracodecs package an win32codecs
[03:31] <sebastian_> now my problen is i cant get the ffmpeg i try with sudo apt-get but say cant find
[03:31] <ubuntu__> and for video codecs also?
[03:31] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu__:  that will give you everything
[03:31] <ubuntu__> oki
[03:31] <ubuntu__> thks
[03:32] <sebastian_> ubuntu_  sudo apt-get aptitude install ffmpeg
[03:33] <sebastian_> thats whats say the web page
[03:33] <ubuntu__> E: Invalid operation aptitude
[03:33] <Linux_Galore> xine-extracodecs is a meta package that triggers allot of other packages to be installed
[03:33] <BluesKaj> !multimedia
[03:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:34] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[03:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <rathel> hmm... I downloaded a source for a VLC Plugin, How would one go about compiling it? The directions that came with it are for Windows.
[03:35] <sebastian_> the toten come with the codecs ready?
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> rathel: ?? why would you download the source when the latest version is already on the repo ?
[03:35] <ubuntu__> i think not
[03:36] <rathel> Linux_Galore: It's a plugin, I don't think they have the plugin on the repo.
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> rathel: vlc is a media player not a plugin
[03:36] <rathel> Linux_Galore: Well... duh.
[03:37] <BluesKaj> there are some plugins in the repos
[03:37] <rathel> BluesKaj: Any for .Part file access?
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> rathel: if you setup your sources you should have no need to build any plugins either
[03:37] <BluesKaj> vlc has a  browser plugin
[03:38] <ubuntu__> Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[03:38] <rathel> hmm..... I know.
[03:38] <ubuntu__> this is what it gives me
[03:38] <rathel> I was just going to try and build the eMule Part file access, but nevermind.
[03:38] <ubuntu__> why?
[03:38] <Linux_Galore> the only thing I have really seen need to build from source is ffmpeg to be honest because it has allot of things disabled
[03:39] <sebastian_> ubuntu_  whats version you have?
[03:39] <ubuntu__> kubuntu 6.10
[03:40] <ubuntu__> it aint workin
[03:40] <ubuntu__> im going ti bed.....maybe tomorrow i will handell it
[03:40] <ubuntu__> c ya guys
[03:41] <sebastian_> ok you have to see the souce.list ubuntu_ see tomorrow
[03:43] <sebastian_> this version 5.1 dont work so good with the packages i have to install the 7.0.4
[03:46] <ChaosMachine> Okay, I have anoyher question now that my graphics card *seems* properly installed, why is glxgears running at 40 fps, and why is WoW not running at all anymore?
[03:48] <ChaosMachine> Ah, nevermind. I'm still getting 494 fps on gears with a few programs running. Its just that WoW wont start. =p
[03:50] <bustamante> hi
[03:50] <bustamante> someone uses the software kexi?
[04:05] <Schuenemann> !windozw
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windozw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <Schuenemann> !windoze
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windoze - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <joe4288> hi im having trouble i just installed kubuntu
[04:09] <joe4288> i was using debian before
[04:09] <joe4288> now im trying to get to the installer program but it wont let me su
[04:09] <joe4288> i get the error message converstaion with su failed
[04:10] <joe4288> its a new error message to me
[04:10] <joe4288> and yes i setup a root account with a password
[04:10] <Schuenemann> !root | joe4288
[04:10] <ubotu> joe4288: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:10] <joe4288> there is a password because i set 1
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, is this the live-cd?
[04:11] <joe4288> no?
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, hmm, sudo -i does the same thing, you may try that
[04:12] <soulrider> why you guys trying to get intot he root account? :P
[04:12] <joe4288> i can sudo and su in the command termianl no prob
[04:12] <level1> I installed the medibuntu packages and the mp3 packages referred to by ubotu (!mp3) but I still can't get amarok to play mp3s...
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, oh, so this is an issue withe kdesu then?
[04:12] <soulrider> level1: did you restart it? :P
[04:12] <joe4288> its when i try using the install program i have trouble
[04:12] <level1> what is the exact package associated with mp3s in amarok?
[04:12] <level1> soulrider: amarok, not kde
[04:13] <soulrider> level1: libxine-extracodecs
[04:13] <Schuenemann> level1, libxine-extracodecs
[04:13] <soulrider> that WILL make it work
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> level1, amarok uses the xine engine by default to play files
[04:13] <joe4288> hmm what do you think i should check out
[04:13] <joe4288> maybe log into kde through the root and update my files?
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, maybe reinstall kdesu?
[04:14] <joe4288> or can i run apt through the command terminal like debian?
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, yup, apt works just fine
[04:14] <level1> soulrider: besides medibuntu, are there any inside tricks to getting media to play as well as possible on my computer?  My last ubuntu install, sometimes the media played a little choppy even with all the codecs I could find
[04:14] <joe4288> sounds good ill pull up a terminal now and see what happens
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, most cmds are the same as under deb
[04:15] <joe4288> well deb was a little wild for me (still kinda new to linux) so i figured i try known territory but a little more under controll
[04:15] <joe4288> plus im happy i can still use deb packages if need be
[04:15] <soulrider> level1: i never used the medibuntu stuff
[04:15] <wolferine> to get nfs working, what service does it use (that u will need to restart) ?
[04:15] <soulrider> and medibuntu somehow sounds like ubuntu for war medics :P
[04:16] <soulrider> wolferine: i think theres a nfs dawmon, let me check
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, all the underlying debian stuff is still there, but im not sure if vanilla debian pkgs will install properly, ubuntu changes some stuff around
[04:16] <wolferine> yeah, I just see nfs-common
[04:16] <wolferine> but thats not it
[04:16] <joe4288> hmmm thats no fun
[04:16] <soulrider> wolferine: i think its netfs
[04:16] <wolferine> was reading the doc, but its not "ubuntu"-ized
[04:17] <soulrider> im not sure though, im running archlinux
[04:17] <joe4288> well im updating through apt now
[04:17] <joe4288> then ill reinstall kdesu
[04:17] <wolferine> its not the portmapper either
[04:17] <joe4288> and restart
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, i don't think there's a kdesu pkg by itself, i believe its under one of the main kde pkgs
[04:18] <joe4288> so then what should i do about kdesu not working?
[04:18] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: this could cause trouble :)
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, did you just add the root acct? if so, then you may have to relog/restart
[04:19] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: no i installed it when i installed ubuntu (expert mode(
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> ah, k
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, i think its kde-base that kdesu is under, but don't quote me on that :)
[04:20] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: well its being updated so when i restart ill let you know if its working
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> k
[04:21] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: but i found it strange that if i log off then back on my mouse dissapears?
[04:21] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: have any idea what would cause that?
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> ?
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> that is weird
[04:21] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: yea i know cant really think what would cause that but ill see if its fixed after the update
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, probably an issue with xorg.conf...
[04:22] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: does the kde theme manger have to be installed because i dont see it in the system setup
[04:22] <draik> Hello
[04:22] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: so i cant install the kde themes i have
[04:22] <draik> I am having an issue trying to access an online radio
[04:22] <draik> This is the error message I am getting...
[04:22] <draik> No URI handler implemented for "mms".
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, try kcontrol...that one has it im pretty sure
[04:23] <draik> Totem could not play 'mms://RadioCasasGrandes2.serverroom.us/xhnvg'.
[04:23] <draik> No URI handler implemented for "mms".
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, the old style system settings
[04:23] <draik> In that order.
[04:23] <level1> what does this mean? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:23] <draik> I'm trying to listen to my brother-in-law's baseball game and I can't get the online radio to load/play.
[04:23] <draik> Any clues?
[04:24] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: i dont see kcontroll any where unless your talking about the system configurator thats there
[04:24] <BluesKaj> level1, using an ATI card?
[04:24] <level1> yeah
[04:24] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: changing distros is hard :(
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, run it in a cmd line...trust me, its there :)
[04:24] <level1> BluesKaj: man, I been through this too many times
[04:24] <level1> BluesKaj: so, I install fglrx, then I run aticonfig --intial, then what?
[04:25] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: koo koo wheres the program located that lets you edit the k menu items (cant remeber what its called)
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, tell me about it, used slack for the longest time, then went to gentoo on this machine and kubuntu on the laptop. fun times :P
[04:25] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: dam all over the place
[04:25] <draik> Anyone here know what I might be missing?
[04:25] <level1> !fglrx
[04:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:25] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: howd you like gentoo (wanted to try it but still a little to new to linux to think i could pull it off)
[04:26] <BluesKaj> level1 , no ...try this tutorial ... it 's apatched , modded driver especially written for fglrx on feisty: http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, it should be a right click option on the kmenu IIRC, other than that i don't know
[04:27] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: i was talking about putting a new item in the k menu and adding the command to run a program (like kcontroll)
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, its a pita to get set up, but once you get it going its beautiful
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, not sure...
[04:27] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: i knew debian had it but god help me i cant remeber what its called
[04:28] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: but the updates done so ill brb and let you know if its all good
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> k
[04:28] <draik> What do I need to play mms?
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> draik, maybe try a different player...
[04:30] <draik> hitmanWilly: How do I do that if firefox is selecting Totem?
[04:30] <level1> BluesKaj: man, thats a long tutorial... can't I just do it the fiesty way?
[04:30] <BluesKaj> draik, mms is multimedia streams ...they could be anything
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> draik, copy the URL into the other player, like amarok
[04:30] <BluesKaj> mostly mp3 or aaac tho
[04:30] <BluesKaj> aac
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, his issue is that totem can't open URL's
[04:30] <redoo> hy@all
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, ie net radio
[04:31] <BluesKaj> amarok has a much better internet radio setup than totem and the others, but one has to wait for the codecs to load ...sometimes takes some patience and clicking play 2 or 3 times dependening on the buffer
[04:31] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: well im back
[04:31] <joe4288> hitmanWilly:
[04:31] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: and it seems to be working
[04:31] <draik> hitmanWilly: mms://RadioCasasGrandes2.serverroom.us/xhnvg
[04:32] <draik> I can't play it
[04:32] <joe4288> hitmanWilly: im tired need sleep so thanks for the help good night
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> draik, ok, try this, on the cmd line: mplayer <URL>
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> draik, see if that works
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> joe4288, np
[04:33] <level1> whats the equivently to kdesu in gnome?
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> gksu
[04:33] <level1> gksu restricted-manager
[04:33] <level1> bash: /usr/bin/command-not-found: restricted: cannot specify `/' in command names
[04:34] <level1> so, apparently not
[04:34] <draik> hitmanWilly: Sorry, it didn't play
[04:34] <draik> In the URL, I include the "mms://" or no?
[04:34] <BluesKaj> draik , it doesn't play, period...not all streams will play
[04:35] <draik> BluesKaj: What is your recommended fix?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> dunno if there is one
[04:35] <draik> What do you use to play streams?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> i usually just move on
[04:35] <BluesKaj> amarok
[04:36] <draik> Any special packages/plugins?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> but ppl have to realize it takes a bit of patience ...the stream has to load the buffer and decode so it takes a 10 secs sometimes to get it to play
[04:38] <draik> BluesKaj: Its just not doing it for me. I will copy the error message from Amarok
[04:39] <BluesKaj> draik, you may have to install mp3 support , it usually will self install once you try toplay one
[04:39] <draik> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes
[04:40] <BluesKaj> patience draik...wait til it loads , then click play again
[04:40] <draik> BluesKaj:
[04:40] <draik> Error Loading Media
[04:40] <draik> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes.
[04:40] <draik> mms://radiocasasgrandes2.serverroom.us/xhnvg
[04:41] <BluesKaj> yeah, that one isn't working...are you sure it's whole URL ?
[04:41] <draik> That's what I got
[04:42] <BluesKaj> if it fails in amarok , it prolly won't work anywhere
[04:42] <draik> :(
[04:42] <vecina> someone explain this :Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free/amd64/ffmpeg_0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu4+medibuntu2_amd64.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[04:43] <waltercool> hi there :)
[04:43] <vecina> i need ffmpeg
[04:43] <BluesKaj> draik, checkout the other radio streams
[04:43] <waltercool> i cant download j2sdk1.5, i only have 1.4, where can i get it?
[04:43] <draik> BluesKaj: Ok.
[04:45] <waltercool> some idea?
[04:46] <draik> BluesKaj: I am able to play another station, but they are flash
[04:46] <BluesKaj> video ? ...amarok is audio only
[04:47] <waltercool> Hello, Im Mattias Ettrich, And U Are Discovering Amarok Fast Foward
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, you may try sun's site
[04:49] <Schuenemann> hitmanWilly, why not apt-get?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> is the 1.5 sdk in the repos?
[04:51] <Schuenemann> it sure is
[04:51] <Schuenemann> and 1.6 is too
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> huh, my bad :)
[04:51] <waltercool> mmm
[04:51] <waltercool> i haven't
[04:51] <waltercool> but installing a bin, can be bad
[04:51] <Schuenemann> waltercool, sun-java6-jddk
[04:51] <Schuenemann> sun-java6-jdk*
[04:52] <waltercool> Schuenemann: I have it installed, but netbeans dont recognize it
[04:52] <Schuenemann> is it working?
[04:52] <waltercool> Schuenemann: JAVA_JRE home
[04:52] <waltercool> JAVA_HOME sorry
[04:52] <Schuenemann> java @ command-line works?
[04:53] <waltercool> yes
[04:53] <waltercool> and javac too
[04:53] <Schuenemann> version 5?
[04:53] <waltercool> yes
[04:53] <Schuenemann> and what do you get with netbeans?
[04:53] <waltercool> well... i mispell, was with tomcat5.5
[04:54] <waltercool>  * no JDK found - please set JAVA_HOME
[04:54] <Schuenemann> hmm... can we start over?
[04:54] <waltercool> im trying to install tomcat5.5
[04:54] <Schuenemann> so, did you set JAVA_HOME?
[04:54] <waltercool> how?
[04:54] <BluesKaj> sacktime here ...nite folks
[04:54] <Schuenemann> edit ~/.bashrc
[04:55] <waltercool> Schuenemann: How i add it? JAVA_HOME=/.../...?
[04:55] <Schuenemann> waltercool, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25919/
[04:56] <waltercool> oh... thanks
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, export JAVA_HOME=
[04:56] <Schuenemann> that catalina_home is not needed
[04:56] <waltercool> why? if tomcat use catalina :S
[04:56] <Schuenemann> you just don't need it
[04:57] <Schuenemann> I mean you don't have to set that variable
[04:57] <waltercool> lol... better
[04:58] <waltercool> wow... now works... thanks
[04:58] <waltercool> :)
[04:58] <Schuenemann> :-p
[04:59] <waltercool> now... im going to see my new dvds of bible black :P
[04:59] <vecina> haut
[04:59] <Schuenemann> bible black?
[04:59] <waltercool> yes
[04:59] <vecina> anime
[04:59] <Schuenemann> ahh...
[04:59] <waltercool> hentai... xD
[04:59] <vecina> yes
[04:59] <vecina> VERY
[04:59] <waltercool> im collector of hentai... and i need rank my dvds
[04:59] <Schuenemann> why you need tomcat for that?
[04:59] <waltercool> xD
[04:59] <vecina> i have one.
[04:59] <vecina> Boku no pico
[05:00] <waltercool> tomcat is for make servlets :P with apache
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> oh god...here we go...
[05:00] <vecina> But thats a shota bwahaha
[05:00] <waltercool> vecina: Boku no pico :O, is a good design?
[05:00] <Schuenemann> and you need servlets to mas... I mean, watch hentai?
[05:00] <waltercool> :O shooota :love:
[05:00] <vecina> waltercool: I dunno if youd like it
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> XD
[05:00] <vecina> oh you would
[05:00] <vecina> send a pm, lol
[05:01] <waltercool> vecina: shota is cool, like lolicon :)
[05:01] <vecina> if its hentai i probbaly like it
[05:01] <waltercool> but i cant find a lolicon anime :(
[05:01] <vecina> im perverted :(
[05:01] <waltercool> im more perverted
[05:01] <waltercool> xD
[05:01] <vecina> download "polygon love" then
[05:01] <vecina> its a loli video game
[05:01] <waltercool> :O for linux?
[05:02] <vecina> it even has squeaky japanese girl voices going "PORIGANU ROVU!!!"
[05:02] <waltercool> xDDDDDDD
[05:02] <vecina> i udnno, i think windows, but its small so it should work in wine
[05:02] <waltercool> but i prefer anime hentai... i cant get more doujinshis xD
[05:02] <waltercool> i have a lot
[05:02] <yanni_> hello, trying to install my wireless card Belkin, I went here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver) but I cannot find the drivr
[05:03] <vecina> Bush is trying to make loli and shota illegal. They actually arrested ne dude, but he was some pedophile on probation so
[05:03] <waltercool> vecina: :O!!!!
[05:03] <vecina> and he downloaded in a library c.c
[05:03] <vecina> BUT
[05:03] <waltercool> vecina: But if ONLY a anime... isnt real
[05:03] <yanni_> can anyone help
[05:03] <vecina> take that up with our government and show them the constitution
[05:03] <yanni_> I've been messing with this for 2 hours
[05:04] <waltercool> vecina: But shota and loli are the best for me... rest of hentai is too common..
[05:04] <vecina> unfortunately americans are not contextual thinkers like the japanese. The japanese seperate reality and fantasy.
[05:04] <vecina> americans have a problem with that.
[05:04] <vecina> Yanni, whats up
[05:05] <waltercool> vecina: yeah... well... im lucky, bush isn't my president xD
[05:05] <vecina> ah
[05:05] <waltercool> boku no pico is yaoi??!! wtf?
[05:05] <vecina> Yeah im  a loli/shota fan. Boku no pico has a lot of crossdressing too which i dig
[05:06] <vecina> its shota
[05:06] <yanni_> I need help getting my system to recognize my wireless G card
[05:06] <waltercool> but... shota or straight shota?
[05:06] <vecina> yanni_ Ive heard that issue a lot :(
[05:06] <vecina> waltercool  shota shota
[05:06] <vecina> man/boi
[05:06] <yanni_> it is a Belkin wireless G
[05:06] <yanni_> so what does that mean
[05:06] <vecina> I wonder why linux hates wireless....
[05:06] <waltercool> wow, in collector... i need have it :P
[05:07] <yanni_> that there is no solution, I went here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver)) but I can't download the driver
[05:07] <vecina> why not?
[05:07] <yanni_> I don't care about all that stuff I just want to get this working
[05:07] <vecina> waltercool : get it off of isosearch.com
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> linux doesn't hate wireless, the hw manufacturers seem to hate linux
[05:07] <vecina> waltercool  or deadfrog
[05:08] <waltercool> wow... i was search in mininova xD... im going to isosearch xD
[05:08] <vecina> watercool  Oops! i mean isohunt
[05:08] <vecina> watercool  And use ktorrent :D it has a built in site browser
[05:08] <waltercool> lol... this webpage sound me more xD
[05:08] <waltercool> vecina: But... ktorrent drop me error each some time :S
[05:08] <waltercool> have a bug?
[05:09] <vecina> waltercool This does sound like a bug. I dunno what kind it would be
[05:09] <vecina> waltercool Try running it from terminal so you can read the error
[05:09] <waltercool> but, isnt a common error, only happen when im out of PC
[05:10] <vecina> waltercool: I dunno then.
[05:10] <vecina> waltercool: whatever you use, get pico. It has crossdressing and all sorts of good stuff haha
[05:10] <vecina> *loves the ladyboys*
[05:11] <waltercool> lool... i prefer straight things... but
[05:11] <waltercool> is only A ova?
[05:11] <vecina> man, why cant i install ffmpeg >.<
[05:11] <vecina> waltercool: I dunno, thats all i could find...
[05:11] <waltercool> vecina: what error?
[05:11] <vecina> waltercool:  Personally im bi so, i enjoy anything.
[05:11] <vecina> It says that it cant find the file on medibuntu
[05:11] <vecina> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com feisty/free ffmpeg 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu4+medibuntu2    <--- 404!
[05:12] <waltercool> xD but ur women, right?...
[05:12] <waltercool> mmm... rarely error
[05:12] <vecina> waltercool: No im a guy
[05:12] <waltercool> mm... rarely
[05:12] <vecina> yes real rare
[05:12] <vecina> i dunno what to do, i need ffmpeg. im having glitches
[05:12] <waltercool> this happen making apt-get install ffmpeg?
[05:12] <vecina> Yes
[05:13] <vecina> E: Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free/amd64/ffmpeg_0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu4+medibuntu2_amd64.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80
[05:13] <vecina> Thats what it says
[05:13] <waltercool> maybe ur country repository's
[05:13] <vecina> i dunno why my repos suck ;_;
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> vecina, yeah, just checked, that location gives me a 404 as well
[05:13] <waltercool> but u can fix changing to official
[05:14] <waltercool> i think
[05:14] <vecina> hitmanWilly: Maybe its down, but the rest of the site works!
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> vecina, i know, checked that too
[05:14] <vecina> hitmanWilly: im in the process of updating / upgrading though, its 88 megs of stuff
[05:14] <vecina> hitmanWilly: maybe they changed the location
[05:15] <brian__> is there a config to remove the verticle line from the system tray?
[05:15] <vecina> brian__: you have a green line?
[05:15] <vecina> brian__: Try right clicking on it, configure, appearance.
[05:15] <brian__> no just the normal sepperator
[05:16] <vecina> maybe im thinking of the wrong thing
[05:16] <brian__> its ok :D
[05:16] <vecina> waltercool: i wish i could pm
[05:16] <waltercool> personal message?
[05:17] <vecina> yah
[05:17] <vecina> it says i need to phhh register
[05:17] <waltercool> lool... register ur name :P
[05:17] <vecina> how
[05:17] <waltercool> | /ns register...
[05:17] <vecina> | /ns register
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> vecina, try /msg NickServ register
[05:18] <vecina> huh
[05:18] <brian__> usefull info :)
[05:19] <vecina> yay! Talking about shota and loli here isnt a good idea after all
[05:19] <brian__> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[05:19] <vecina> it worked already
[05:19] <evsophomore2009> hey does anyone in here know how to put a url into a word?
[05:20] <brian__> ah
[05:23] <aka_dennister> howdy folks...printer isn't working with this 2.6.20-16-generic kernel, while it did work for previous kernel...can anyone help me troubleshoot? I don't know where to start because the error message gives absolutely no info
[05:45] <Schuenemann> aka_dennister, hp?
[05:48] <t0lkman> why kubuntu ignore my keyboard layout changing?
[05:48] <t0lkman> i mean it ignores the keyboard shortcut
[05:58] <rathel_> hmm.. How do I add network drives to fstab? I added some but when I browse no files come up.
[05:59] <jose__> how can I connect to another irc chanel ?
[06:00] <crdlb> jose__, /join #channel
[06:03] <evsophomore2009> I NEED HELP SOMEONE
[06:03] <Dragnslcr> You don't say
[06:04] <jose__> which server should I connect to (irc)
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> evsophomore2009: don't shout, that won't get you help
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> just ask
[06:04] <Dragnslcr> jose__- whatever server you want
[06:04] <evsophomore2009> Admiral_Chicago: okay, on Konqueror, my Address bar is GONE!!!
[06:04] <Dragnslcr> jose__- this server is irc.freenode.net
[06:04] <evsophomore2009> how to i make it visible again?
[06:05] <Dragnslcr> Check Settings -> Toolbars
[06:05] <Admiral_Chicago> yep
[06:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Location toolbar
[06:06] <evsophomore2009> Wait, Location, then toolbar?
[06:06] <evsophomore2009> i dont see it
[06:06] <Dragnslcr> No, Settings -> Toolbars
[06:07] <jose__> how can I change my nick ?
[06:07] <evsophomore2009> when i clikc on Main Toolbar, the addrewss bar still dosent show up
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago>  /nick newnick
[06:08] <ubuntu__> if I delete my etc/mtab and reboot will it be rebuilt?
[06:09] <Dragnslcr> evsophomore2009- did you try checking Location Toolbar?
[06:10] <evsophomore2009> Location...then toolbar?
[06:11] <rathel> hmm.. How do I add network drives to fstab? I added some but when I browse no files come up.
[06:12] <evsophomore2009> Dragnslcr: im confused
[06:12] <Dragnslcr> Unless you have a different version of Konqueror than I do, it's the second option in Settings -> Toolbars
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> Yeah but the Address bar is gone
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> it dosent show up even when the option is selceted
[06:14] <Dragnslcr> Something is very broken then. That option hides and shows the location bar just fine for me
[06:23] <jose__> where can I find channels to connect ?
[06:24] <klobster> is it possible to create a folder that users can rename, but not delete?
[06:25] <jose__> can anyone help me in order to add irc channels into konversation ?
[06:27] <Dragnslcr> klobster- not with normal permissions I don't think
[06:27] <jason__> are you using Konversation jose? Then click Window -> Channel List. I think you can also just hit F5
[06:27] <Dragnslcr> Moving and deleting files both require write permission
[06:28] <klobster> I had a feeling
[06:29] <Dragnslcr> Something like SELinux might support it, but I'm not sure if Ubuntu has it or not
[06:29] <Dragnslcr> !selinux
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <Rictoo> how do I find out what sound driver is currently being used?
[06:32] <yanni_> can anyone help me with a weireless card issue
[06:34] <Dragnslcr> Rictoo- System Settings -> Sound
[06:34] <Rictoo> no
[06:34] <Rictoo> autodetect is selected
[06:34] <Rictoo> but I wanna see what drive it chose
[06:35] <jeanmass> hello
[06:35] <^V^> Rictoo: maybe in the KInfoCentre?
[06:35] <JEANMASS> i cant change my host name graphically
[06:36] <JEANMASS> when i go to system setting > network settings
[06:36] <JEANMASS> and try to change hostname
[06:37] <JEANMASS> i receive the following error msg
[06:37] <yanni_>  how can I get my Belkin Wireless G card to work?
[06:37] <JEANMASS> the default gateway IP address is invalid
[06:38] <JEANMASS> why?
[06:40] <JEANMASS> ..
[06:40] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you need help?
[06:41] <^V^> JEANMASS: have you tried setting the gateway ip to a valid value?
[06:41] <jose> can anyone help me to add a server to konversation ?
[06:41] <JEANMASS> well what i tried is to change my hostname
[06:41] <jose> some server fro argentina
[06:41] <^V^> jose: file->server list
[06:41] <JEANMASS> but i cant, because when i press apply
[06:42] <kkerwin> Hi, I wish to setup Samba using the SWAT interface, but cannot seem to connect. Anyone know how to setup SWAT?
[06:42] <JEANMASS> i get the msg "the default gateway IP address is invalid"
[06:42] <^V^> JEANMASS: have you tried to set the gateway _before_ anything else?
[06:42] <^V^> so set gateway, apply, change other values..etc
[06:42] <JEANMASS> ^V^: ??? i dont think so
[06:42] <JEANMASS> how to?
[06:43] <JEANMASS> everytime i want to change hostname i have to do it in konsole
[06:43] <JEANMASS> i cant do it graphicaly
[06:43] <kkerwin> JEANMASS: /etc/hostname ??
[06:43] <Rictoo> Guys, did you hear the news!?
[06:43] <^V^> JEANMASS: what have you got in network settings->routes?
[06:44] <Rictoo> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/japan-sinks-into-ocean/
[06:44] <kkerwin> Rictoo: No, what's that?
[06:44] <JEANMASS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:44] <^V^> have you tried changing that first?
[06:44] <JEANMASS> no
[06:44] <JEANMASS> before 7.04 i could change hostname just by changing hostname
[06:45] <JEANMASS> since 7.04 its not working
[06:45] <^V^> hmm
[06:45] <kkerwin> Hi, I wish to setup Samba using the SWAT interface, but cannot seem to connect. Anyone know how to setup SWAT?
[06:45] <JEANMASS> what should i put in rout?
[06:46] <Rictoo> How do I find what repo a certain package was in?
[06:46] <JEANMASS> before i just went to System Settings > Network Settings > Domaine Name System
[06:46] <JEANMASS> change my name, click apply done
[06:46] <JEANMASS> now i cant
[06:46] <JEANMASS> but it works in Konsole
[06:47] <JEANMASS> i have to edit 2 files
[06:47] <JEANMASS> dont remember which ones
[06:47] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[06:47] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: sudo vi /etc/hostname
[06:48] <JEANMASS> thanx
[06:48] <JEANMASS> it is still weird it doenst work graphicaly
[06:49] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: weird
[06:50] <Dodger73> hi all
[06:50] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you will need to restart X, i think
[06:50] <emxinhemdethuong> chao co ai ko vay
[06:50] <Dodger73> anyone with experience with fglrx / ati cards around? :)
[06:50] <JEANMASS> i changed host name in /etc/hostname
[06:50] <JEANMASS> however
[06:51] <JEANMASS> <IP_ADDRESS> aliases is still my old hostname
[06:51] <JEANMASS> ???
[06:51] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you can also do "sudo  hostname -v new_hostname"
[06:52] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: might need to restart networking (try /etc/init.d/networking restart ; however, try the ^^ command first)
[06:52] <JEANMASS> what does -v mean?
[06:54] <JEANMASS> my system is buggy
[06:54] <JEANMASS> have to reboot
[06:54] <JEANMASS> cant launch konsole
[06:54] <JEANMASS> or anything
[06:54] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: uggh, linux needs no rebooting.
[06:54] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: try alt + f2
[06:55] <JEANMASS> the run command box is frozen
[06:56] <JEANMASS> KDEinit could not lauchn Konsole
[06:56] <JEANMASS> rebooting brb
[06:58] <JEANMASS> hello
[06:58] <JEANMASS> alright change hostname
[06:58] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: cool
[06:59] <JEANMASS> but static host <IP_ADDRESS> aliases is still my old hostname
[06:59] <JEANMASS> why?
[06:59] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you mean <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:59] <JEANMASS> why doesnt it change everything?
[06:59] <NickPresta> I'm having a problem with /etc/init.d/. I wrote a script for it last night (using another application script as a template) and when booted into Kubuntu today, Apache was not started (this script autostarts apache). However, when I ran `sudo /etc/init.d/apache start`, it worked fine. Any thoughts?
[06:59] <JEANMASS> no, i mean <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:59] <JEANMASS> did not change to my new hostname
[07:00] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: sudo vim /etc/hosts also, maybe?
[07:00] <JEANMASS> i'll try
[07:01] <JEANMASS> ok, i changed it
[07:01] <JEANMASS> but why isnt automatialy changed when i change hostname?
[07:01] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: not sure, sorry
[07:01] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: hostname -v should have changed it
[07:02] <JEANMASS> well, it doesnt on my PC
[07:02] <JEANMASS> i tried many times
[07:02] <JEANMASS> have to do it manualy
[07:03] <JEANMASS> also when changing the hostname graphicaly i get the error msg "the default gateway IP address is invalid"
[07:03] <JEANMASS> what should by this default gateway IP adress be?
[07:04] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: i think <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:04] <JEANMASS> i have <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:05] <JEANMASS> shoud i change it to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:07] <JEANMASS> is this an installation bug?
[07:07] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: depends, but it should not be <IP_ADDRESS>, anyhow
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, yeah, <IP_ADDRESS> is definately wrong
[07:07] <JEANMASS> it must be an installation bug
[07:07] <JEANMASS> alright changing to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> maybe...
[07:07] <JEANMASS> since 7.04 my system is not working as fluently as before
[07:08] <JEANMASS> alright with this new gateway ip adress i can change the hostname graphicaly
[07:08] <JEANMASS> however <IP_ADDRESS> do not change
[07:09] <JEANMASS> how to reinitiate net set?
[07:10] <JEANMASS> have to reboot
[07:10] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: do you have dhcp or static ip?
[07:10] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: no need to reboot
[07:10] <JEANMASS> robotgeek:  i cant launch konsole
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, eth0?
[07:10] <JEANMASS> or nothing
[07:10] <JEANMASS> cant launch system settings
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> wtf?
[07:10] <robotgeek> yeah, wtf!
[07:10] <JEANMASS> can launch amarok
[07:11] <JEANMASS> but not konsole or system settings
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, is this your first user acct?
[07:11] <JEANMASS> no amarok do not work
[07:11] <JEANMASS> it is my only user accoint
[07:11] <JEANMASS> old pc
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, ok, try alt-f2, then xterm
[07:12] <JEANMASS> i did alt f2,  typed konsole
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, that should get you a terminal
[07:12] <robotgeek> it apparently hangs, alt+f2
[07:12] <JEANMASS> the box froze
[07:12] <JEANMASS> ad before
[07:12] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: just ctrl + alt + del,
[07:12] <robotgeek> it swill restart X, faster than rebooting
[07:12] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: then, we can try xterm
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> robotgeek, i think you mean ctrl alt bksp
[07:13] <JEANMASS> ctrl alt del just ask me if i want to log out, reboot
[07:13] <robotgeek> hitmanWilly: yeah, sorry :)
[07:13] <JEANMASS> you mean ctrl alt backspace?
[07:13] <JEANMASS> ok
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, yes
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> too late :)
[07:14] <robotgeek> weirdest ever
[07:14] <Rictoo> !alsa
[07:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> old pc, may kubuntu may be a little bit much for it to handle
[07:14] <Jjaannuuss> is it possible to force rerecognition of pephirials in kubuntu? my touchpad ain't recognized properly.
[07:14] <JEANMASS> hello
[07:15] <JEANMASS> my default gateway IP is back to <IP_ADDRESS>!!
[07:15] <^V^> Jjaannuuss: usb?
[07:15] <Jjaannuuss> no it's a fixed one on my laptop
[07:15] <Jjaannuuss> it's recognized as ps2 generic mouse.
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> Jjaannuuss, you may have to twiddle with xorg.conf
[07:16] <jose> how can i change the colour of the font in irc ?
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, do you have irssi on your system?
[07:17] <JEANMASS> irssi?
[07:17] <JEANMASS> dont know
[07:17] <JEANMASS> system settings is buggy
[07:17] <JEANMASS> after a while i can laucnh it, but not in admin mode
[07:17] <JEANMASS> after a while i cant launch it anymore
[07:17] <evsophomore2009> Can someone help me out with Konqueror?
[07:17] <JEANMASS> and neither for other apps
[07:17] <Jjaannuuss> hitmanwilly: when i run "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" it saying th part about generic mouse, i can't understand how to change that
[07:18] <JEANMASS> why does Gateway IP comes back to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Jjaannuuss, so it doesn't work i take it...
[07:18] <NickPresta> JEANMASS, to launch system settings or kcontrol with admin privs, use `kdesu kcontrol` or `kdesu systemsettings`
[07:19] <Jjaannuuss> well the pad works but not all the neat scrolling features.
[07:19] <polypusher> Hey, my ubuntu studio only works when i have a monitor connected via a VGA socket
[07:19] <evsophomore2009> Ructoo: Are you familliar with Konqueror?
[07:19] <JEANMASS> i type kdesu sustemsettings in katapult?
[07:19] <NickPresta> JEANMASS, in a terminal (Konsole)
[07:19] <JEANMASS> i type kdesu sustemsettings in katapult?
[07:19] <^V^> Jjaannuuss: try this link maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[07:19] <JEANMASS> fuck
[07:19] <JEANMASS> i cant launch anything
[07:19] <Jjaannuuss> i've read all those.
[07:19] <JEANMASS> i've reboot
[07:20] <JEANMASS> be back
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> Jjaannuuss, you may have to configure xorg for scrollwheel/bar functionality
[07:20] <evsophomore2009> !laungage
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laungage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <^V^> nothing there helps?
[07:20] <evsophomore2009> !Language
[07:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> case sensitive bot...
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm...
[07:21] <^V^> doesn't correct spelling mistakes
[07:21] <evsophomore2009> yep
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> turing test failure :P
[07:21] <evsophomore2009> Hitmanwilly: are you familliar with Konqueror?
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> evsophomore2009, a very little, what's up?
[07:22] <evsophomore2009> well for some reason my Address bar is gone
[07:22] <^V^> Jjaannuuss: run xev and see if it responds to any events
[07:22] <evsophomore2009> and when i go under settings, Toolbar, the option is chosen to show the address bar, but its still not apperaring
[07:22] <Jjaannuuss> i'm new to kubuntu and linux and havn't learned what controls what. is it xor.conf that controls "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" or the other way around?
[07:22] <waltercool> hi there... how can i free linux cached memory?
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> Jjaannuuss, neither
[07:23] <^V^> xorg.conf is a configuration file for the x org server
[07:24] <JEANMASS> back
[07:24] <Jjaannuuss> yes i understand that, but what controls how devices are recognized?
[07:24] <JEANMASS> why does my default gateway ip come back to <IP_ADDRESS>. after reboot?
[07:25] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: what is set in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:25] <waltercool> Jjaannuuss: How i can free cached memory of linux?? Use me a LOOOOOT of memory
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, it'll free itself up as needed
[07:26] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: But why use me a lot?? 400MB :S
[07:26] <^V^> waltercool: cache is there to be used
[07:26] <robotgeek> waltercool: linux uses your RAM, that is good :)
[07:26] <^V^> no point in keeping it empty
[07:26] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: And Konversation use me 120MB :S
[07:27] <waltercool> well... now 65
[07:27] <evsophomore2009> can anyone help me even a little?
[07:27] <^V^> waltercool: that probably isn't an accurate number...
[07:27] <JEANMASS> many things
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> wow...that's one bulky irc client :P
[07:27] <JEANMASS> where should i paste it?
[07:27] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:27] <^V^> !pastebin
[07:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:27] <waltercool> mmm... but i can know the exactly free memory?
[07:27] <evsophomore2009> !Pastebin
[07:27] <waltercool> using free command?
[07:28] <JEANMASS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25929/
[07:28] <^V^> yep
[07:28] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, there's a cmd line switch for free that ignores the cache IIRC
[07:28] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: But... is necessary use this big amount of ram?
[07:29] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, don't think of it as used...it'll be freed up whenever another app needs it
[07:29] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: But... linux apps uses a lot of ram memory (in common)
[07:30] <^V^> waltercool: what is the point of having a lot of memory if it doesn't get used?
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> waltercool, it speeds up program loading times by caching recent ones in ram
[07:30] <evsophomore2009> So im lost why everyone is ignoring my problem
[07:30] <waltercool> hitmanWilly: i dont like use swap too much
[07:30] <JEANMASS> ??
[07:30] <^V^> evsophomore2009: its not being ignored, perhaps no one knows the answer?
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> if an app comes along that needs the memory, it unloads the oldest apps first and works up the chain until its out of ram, then it goes to the swap file
[07:31] <NickPresta> I'm having a problem with /etc/init.d/. I wrote a script for it last night (using another application script as a template) and when booted into Kubuntu today, Apache was not started (this script autostarts apache). However, when I ran `sudo /etc/init.d/apache start`, it worked fine. Any thoughts?
[07:31] <nixternal> evsophomore2009: I noticed you just asked for help, remember don't ask to ask a question or ask if someone can help...just let the channel know your problem or question
[07:32] <JEANMASS> robotgeek: ??
[07:32] <waltercool> but when swap is in use... and i close a lot of apps, swap is working yet
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> without rebuilding amarok from source, is there any way to get full console debug information?
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> nixternal, he actually asked his question further up
[07:32] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: moment
[07:32] <nixternal> ahh, I only scrolled up so far :)
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> I don't recall seeing an amarok-debug package, or anything with a similar name
[07:32] <nixternal> NickPresta: sounds like you need to add rc.d/ entries
[07:32] <JEANMASS> what shoult the default gateway ip again?
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> I'm trying to get it so that I can see the output of scripts in the console
[07:32] <JEANMASS> so i put it back
[07:32] <^V^> evsophomore2009: are you choosing 'location bar' ?
 Yes i am
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, usually <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:33] <nixternal> rc*.d entries rather
[07:33] <NickPresta> nixternal, I ran update-rc.d and it appears to have worked properly. Is there something else I should've done?
[07:33] <evsophomore2009> and when i disable the location bar, a few little dots appear at the corner, but no address bar
[07:33] <nixternal> NickPresta: I think that is about it
[07:33] <evsophomore2009> ***** When i Enable it
[07:33] <nixternal> been a while since I added anything to init.d
[07:34] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: what interface are you using?
[07:34] <hitmanWilly> evsophomore2009, it may just be shrunk down, you should be able to move it around IIRC
[07:34] <robotgeek> howdy nixternal
[07:34] <nixternal> hola robotgeek, long time no see ;)
[07:35] <evsophomore2009> WOW i feel incredable retarted
[07:35] <JEANMASS> robotgeek: interface?
[07:35] <evsophomore2009> lol haha thanks guys
[07:35] <evsophomore2009> im kinda tired
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> we all get there sometimes :P
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, as in eth<>
[07:35] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: you have eth0, eth1, eth2 , wireless, and so on
[07:36] <robotgeek> nixternal: yup, long time. work + school == no time!
[07:36] <nixternal> hehe, I hear you there
[07:36] <JEANMASS> eth0
[07:36] <JEANMASS> eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:42] <JEANMASS> am i connected?
[07:42] <JEANMASS> anyone here?
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> yeah
[07:43] <JEANMASS> ok =)
[07:43] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: my interfaces file doesn't have the same entries as yours, here is mine: http://pastebin.com/930572
[07:43] <JEANMASS> my pc is buggy
[07:43] <robotgeek> JEANMASS: back up your older file before making changes :)
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, what are the specs on your pc?
[07:44] <JEANMASS> PIV 1.6, 512RAM
[07:44] <zblach_> hi all. quick question. i have a four button wireless mouse. how can i configure buttons 3 and 4?
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, ok, nm :)
[07:44] <JEANMASS> so i should replace mine by yours?
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, plenty to run kubuntu
[07:45] <JEANMASS> which files again? /etc/inferface?
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, you said you just upgraded right? you may want to back up your home folder and try a fresh install
[07:46] <JEANMASS> this is a fresh install
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> JEANMASS, ok, nm :)
[07:47] <JEANMASS> robotgeek: which file should i change?
[07:50] <^V^> JEANMASS: to change hostname?
[07:50] <JEANMASS> interfaces
[07:50] <^V^>  /etc/network/interfaces
[07:51] <JEANMASS> thx
[07:52] <Riggzy> Hm, are there any power saving configs concerning harddrives? Trying to get Kubuntu running nice on a laptop but the disks just keep spinning and spinning
[07:53] <Rictoo> guys
[07:53] <Rictoo> I have a friend who's sound is not working
[07:53] <Rictoo> it just stopped working out of the blue
[07:53] <Rictoo> we went through all the steps to confuigure alsa
[07:53] <Rictoo> the volumes are all up, but no sound is hear
[07:53] <Rictoo> d
[07:55] <zblach_> Rictoo: serious comment. check to see that both main and PCM and master are not muted.
[07:55] <zblach_> **pcm and master
[07:59] <Rictoo> zblach_: they aren't
[07:59] <Rictoo> but he has an onboard card too
[07:59] <Rictoo> how does linux know which to choose?
[07:59] <Rictoo> (pci card, or onboard)
[08:00] <zblach_> i can't recall. i disabled onboard through the bios
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, the bios may auto disable the onboard when it picks up the pci
[08:00] <Rictoo> ok
[08:01] <Rictoo> hitmanWilly: It doesn't
[08:01] <Rictoo> both are there with lspci
[08:01] <Rictoo> oddly I got the sound to work for him
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, you could disable onboard thru bios if you want
[08:01] <Rictoo> but he randomly came to me just now and said "It stopped working"
[08:01] <Rictoo> and I checked everything
[08:01] <Rictoo> and I don't see why it shouldn't work
[08:02] <Riggzy> Is it an Audigy?
[08:02] <Rictoo> soundblaster
[08:02] <Rictoo> but i told you, it worked 25 min ago
[08:05] <klobster> trying to fix my nonbooting system; booted the livecd (fiesty) chroot segfaults?
[08:05] <JEANMASS> thx
[08:06] <klobster> but chroot _will_ run on native /
[08:06] <schizm> anyone have issues with gvim and 7.04?
[08:19] <Jjaannuuss> my alps touchpad won't recognize properly anybody that can help me out?
[08:19] <rathel_> I've added a network folder to my fstab, and I can't write to it, I have dmask=777,fmask=777 in the options part, what else do I need?
[08:21] <Jjaannuuss> my alps touchpad won't recognize properly anybody that can help me out?
[08:35] <klobster> do I need to chroot to do update-initramfs?
[08:35] <klobster> ^^ while booted from the livCD, that is
[08:35] <pawitp> sudo mount [device]  /mnt
[08:36] <pawitp> sudo chroot /mnt
[08:36] <pawitp> but then I didn't mount the /dev and stuff so I don't know if it'll work
[08:36] <klobster> I mount (--bind) /dev and /proc, but it segfaults
[08:37] <david_> !nvidia
[08:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <klobster> is there a command to test the partition table (not fsck) for errors?
[08:41] <vecina> What does it mean when a package is "automatiocally held back" ? should i not install it/
[08:42] <DaSkreech> vecina: might have some conflicts
[08:42] <vecina> DSkreech well its making my package alert icon stay up :(
[08:42] <david_> OK, there is a trick to this i know.. im in kubuntu feisty trying to install my NVIDIA card.. the website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto tells me to go to System>Administration>Restricted Devices Manager.. but I dont c it
[08:43] <vecina> !restricted
[08:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:45] <david_> do i need to install the devices manager using adept????
[08:45] <david_> pls help
[08:45] <DaSkreech> david_: that's the Gnome way of doing it
[08:46] <david_> DaSkreech: ty, is there a good easy way in kde
[08:46] <malik__> i have on board sound and geforce nvidia video card and seems like thats not a good combo when playing videos in realplayer coz video is jerky and progresses only after 10 or so second intervals, making it look like slide show rather than video file..... because when sometime sound fails to function in realplayer video plays just fine....any remedies for this problem?
[08:48] <d0zer> hello.. can someone tell me how to boot into non-graphical mode ?
[08:49] <tahsin> how do i create two administrative user account ?
[08:50] <DaSkreech> david_: the walkthrough for 6.10 and earlier shoudl work
[08:50] <david_> DaSkreech: ty again
[08:50] <julius> whenever i shutdown i get told about15 applications have crashed
[08:51] <DaSkreech> david_: jsut sawp out adept for any mention of synaptic :)
[08:51] <julius> and sometimes when i close kconsole it tells me they ahve crashed aswell -.-
[08:51] <DaSkreech> malik__: try the helix player
[08:51] <tahsin> DaSkreech: how do i change the window title colour ?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> d0zer: you don't want X to start when the computer starts up?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> tahsin: create a new users and add them to the admin group
[08:52] <DaSkreech> julius: and they didn't?
[08:52] <tahsin> DaSkreech: how do i add them to the admin group ?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> julius: wait you mean apport?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> !groups
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <DaSkreech> tahsin: look in System settings
[08:52] <vecina> I cant install realplayer :( it says im missing : GTK+ 2.0 (libgtk-x11-2.0.so)
[08:52] <DaSkreech> vecina: how are you installing it?
[08:53] <d0zer> DaSkreech: i need to boot into it to install some nvidia drivers
[08:53] <d0zer> Dont know hot to get out there
[08:53] <vecina> DaSkreech: from the terminal.
[08:53] <DaSkreech> d0zer: Oh just kill X
[08:53] <vecina> DaSkreech: i dled it off the site
[08:53] <vecina> i hope being 64 bit isnt a problem
[08:55] <DaSkreech> d0zer: press alt+ctrl+F1 then when you want to get back here press alt+ctrl+F7
[08:55] <malik__> DaSkreech: both behave in same fashion, do u think that i shud change my sound? or rather add a sound blaster or sound card instead of on-board sound?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> vecina: hmm well then install GTK libs then
[08:55] <DaSkreech> malik__: what speed is your computer ?
[08:55] <vecina> DaSkreech: They are installed u.u
[08:55] <d0zer> DaSkreech: i have tried that but it tells me im still running the ddisplay manager.. when i try to kill it it respawns
[08:55] <DaSkreech> vecina: maybe you need to set a libpath
[08:55] <DaSkreech> d0zer: oh ok then type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:55] <omgzoras> the kubuntu installer is brain dead :|
[08:55] <malik__> DaSkreech: i have p4 3.0Ghz 1Gig ddr ram 64mb nvidia gforce and gigabit motherboard with on board sound
[08:55] <vecina> DaSkreech: a what
[08:55] <omgzoras> apparently you HAVE to format the partitions for whatever odd reason
[08:56] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: some partitions
[08:56] <omgzoras> the important ones
[08:56] <DaSkreech> notably / and swap
[08:56] <omgzoras> i used ubuntu to create my partitions the first time
[08:56] <omgzoras> so obviously /home was in /
[08:56] <rathel_> I've added a network folder to my fstab, and I can't write to it, I have dmask=777,fmask=777 in the options part, what else do I need?
[08:56] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: may I suggest a /home partition
[08:57] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: duly noted and added but why is there such a limitation?
[08:57] <omgzoras> especially when ubuntu doesn't create a /home by default
[08:58] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: it does create a /home just not a /home partition
[08:58] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: i know that
[08:59] <omgzoras> so the devs should also know that insisting for no particular reason on formatting / is stupid because now everyone has to run around backing all of /home up
[09:02] <DaSkreech> well if you are installing a new operating system I think it would only make sense that the user should have some care with his data
[09:02] <DaSkreech>  there is no assurance that the installation of any OS goes peachy keen
[09:02] <omgzoras> linux is about options :|
[09:02] <omgzoras> anyway
[09:03] <DaSkreech> MacOS warns about that and they have the stack locked top to bottom
[09:03] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: sorry if you lost anything
[09:03] <omgzoras> i'm still in install cd =)
[09:04] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: ah. what are you trying to do may I ask?
[09:05] <omgzoras> trying to remove the check and the code that formats the partition
[09:05] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: not right now overall
[09:05] <DaSkreech> install kubuntu or upgrade or what?
[09:05] <omgzoras> i had a 5.10 ubuntu i wanted to move to kubuntu
[09:05] <DaSkreech> a 5.10 kubuntu?
[09:06] <omgzoras> ubuntu
[09:06] <omgzoras> to ubuntu feisty
[09:06] <omgzoras> erm.. kubuntu feisty
[09:06] <omgzoras> =)
[09:06] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: yeah that would warrant a backup
[09:06] <pawitp> omgzoras: A lot of work that would've been easier with a full reinstall
[09:07] <DaSkreech> how big is your home folder?
[09:07] <david_> DaSkreech: Hi again... just to let u know i tried installing the restricted-manager... it wasn't big and ran it with kdesu.. went through the motions and it worked a treat
[09:07] <omgzoras> 100 G
[09:07] <DaSkreech> pawitp: he is doing a full reinstall
[09:07] <DaSkreech> pawitp: but that would format his /home
[09:07] <pawitp> DaSkreech: I didn't see that sry
[09:07] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: and you don't have a spare hard drive with that much free space?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> david_: thumbs up mate
[09:08] <pawitp> omgzoras: There is a way, but there are some risk
[09:08] <omgzoras> i only have a usb 1.1 on this machine and an ext drive with 400G free. transferring 100G = 1 full day  which is why i'm irritated by the forced formatting
[09:08] <david_> DaSkreech: it's a wonder y they haven't put it into the official kubuntu lists
[09:08] <omgzoras> pawtip oh?
[09:08] <david_> ttfn
[09:08] <pawitp> omgzoras: I wonder why everyone misspell my name :P
[09:08] <pawitp> omgzoras: Use a live cd
[09:09] <DaSkreech> pawitp: already there :)
[09:09] <omgzoras> i'm using the kubuntu install/live cd right now =)
[09:09] <vecina> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32 lib32asound2
[09:09] <vecina> That allows realplayer to install
[09:09] <pawitp> omgzoras: Delete everything in the partition except the home folder
[09:09] <omgzoras> pawtip did that too
[09:09] <DaSkreech> vecina: ok :)
[09:09] <omgzoras> then resize i suppose? :|
[09:09] <pawitp> omgzoras: yep
[09:09] <vecina> XD hoorah
[09:10] <omgzoras> i'd rather patch this installer if it's all in python
[09:10] <omgzoras> =)
[09:10] <DaSkreech> malik__: what are you using to play the real media?
[09:10] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: it is
[09:10] <malik__> where do i find options for turning on and off  the previews of files?
[09:11] <malik__> DaSkreech: real media files, for other types i dont bother with realplayer coz i dont like it
[09:11] <DaSkreech> malik__: reasonable
[09:12] <pawitp> s/that/which
[09:17] <omgzoras> w000t i did it =)
[09:18] <danielw> anyone know why i have no /dev/input/js# mapped when i have installed the xpad module and it seems to have picked up the usb xbox 360 controller?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> The Gonzo happy dance?
[09:19] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: but of course =D
[09:19] <subliminal727> hey everyone, anyone feel like answering a few questions about switching from gnome to kde in feisty?
[09:19] <omgzoras> 6 lines of crud that nearly cost me a whole day smacked down !
[09:19] <omgzoras> mwahaha
[09:19] <omgzoras> subliminal727: hope it goes well =)
[09:19] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: Not really but you are free to ask them anyway :)
[09:21] <danielw> anyone had any problems with a xbox360 controller(usb) and feisty?
[09:21] <subliminal727> well i was just wondering if installing the kubuntu package is all i have to do...and if there is an easy way to switch back and forth
[09:21] <d0zer> anyone in here have experience with installing nvidia graphics drivers? Ive installed the drivers but it wont detect any higher resolution than 640x480
[09:21] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: kubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <kutty> is there full package availabel
[09:21] <DaSkreech> and when you login click on the sessions button before and choose gnome or KDE
[09:21] <subliminal727> sweet
[09:22] <DaSkreech> kutty: Full?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> danielw: don't think I've ever seen anyone ask that
[09:22] <DaSkreech> d0zer: might just need to redo your Xorg.conf
[09:23] <danielw> DaSkreech: As in no one has had problems? or no one uses an xbox 360 controller with linux? :)
[09:23] <subliminal727> that was some rapid fire support there skreech
[09:23] <vista> how do i change the panel font colour ?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> danielw: which ever one is
[09:23] <d0zer> DaSkreech: hmm adding the resolution directly into the cfg ?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> true
[09:24] <feelow> linux is cool
[09:24] <maumo> hi
[09:24] <DaSkreech> d0zer: if you like. I'd just reconfigure it
[09:24] <omgzoras> linux is for posers
[09:24] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[09:24] <vista> DaSkreech: how do i change the panel font colour ?
[09:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:24] <subliminal727> vista http://brentroos.com/2006/07/07/change-gnome-panel-text-color/
[09:24] <omgzoras> hurd is cool >:)
[09:24] <DaSkreech> vista: right click and configure would be my guess
[09:25] <vista> subliminal72
[09:25] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: :-)
[09:25] <julius> grr
[09:25] <subliminal727> i had to make mine white so i could make my panel black
[09:25] <vista> subliminal72: yes i want to do the same thing
[09:26] <vista> subliminal72: how do i do that ?
[09:26] <subliminal727> that link
[09:26] <subliminal727> http://brentroos.com/2006/07/07/change-gnome-panel-text-color/
[09:27] <Jucato> vista: if you upgraded to KDE 3.5.7 on Feisty, you can now do that in the Taskbar configuration dialog
[09:27] <Jucato> only KDE 3.5.7 has this new feature
[09:27] <subliminal727> woops i put the gnome link there
[09:27] <subliminal727> i shouldn't try to help people
[09:28] <omgzoras> you can just horse around with me sub
[09:28] <vista> subliminal72: u got the kde link ?
[09:28] <subliminal727> haha
[09:28] <feelow> i am freash haha
[09:29] <DaSkreech> hi Ju
[09:29] <DaSkreech> cato
[09:29] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[09:29] <subliminal727> damnit i suck at tag
[09:29] <subliminal727> haha
[09:29] <vista> jucato: how do i do it on edgy ?
 only KDE 3.5.7 has this new feature
[09:30] <danielw> DaSkreech: I found out why, the xpad i had didnt support xbox360, theres a modified xpad version on the unbuntuforums that works with it. Just incase anyone else asks this question :)
[09:31] <Jucato> on Edgy? you can change the color of the Button Text in System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors. that's the only way. (The taskbar, by default, uses the button colors)
[09:31] <sivaji> hi Jucato
[09:31] <omgzoras> oh yea in case anyone else asks about installing feisty without formatting tell them to modify kde.ui  in /usr/lib/ubiquity/frontend
[09:31] <subliminal727> somebody convince me to delete my vista partition
[09:31] <DaSkreech> danielw: so it's not a xbox360 Pad?
[09:31] <Jucato> hi sivaji
[09:31] <feelow> oh my god
[09:32] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: ha ha neat :)
[09:32] <danielw> DaSkreech: It is a xbox360 pad
[09:32] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: delete it :)
[09:32] <subliminal727> ok
[09:32] <sivaji> feelow ?
[09:32] <DaSkreech> danielw: umm ok so why doesn't it work?
?
[09:32] <feelow> i am new
[09:32] <danielw> DaSkreech: It does now.. but the xpad that came with feisty didnt work, i had to get a modified version from the ubuntuforums
[09:32] <omgzoras> i can't wait to get yakuake installed
[09:33] <sivaji> feelow ok fine
[09:33] <feelow> thanks
[09:33] <DaSkreech> danielw: ah ok :) can you bug that for me?
[09:33] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: it's like 400k doesn't take that long
[09:33] <omgzoras> i   know =D 10% more before the installer finishes and i can reboot w000t
[09:34] <subliminal727> dude skreech you are an animal
[09:34] <omgzoras> yakuake is such an awesome app i use it at work all the time
[09:34] <danielw> DaSkreech: How do i 'bug' it? is there an app or website?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: tried the new one ?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> !bug
[09:35] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:35] <sivaji> feelow i think this will be useful for u "http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html" , "http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty"
[09:35] <omgzoras> there's a new yakuake?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: Yeah on KDE-look
[09:35] <omgzoras> oh yea i heard about that one
[09:35] <subliminal727> whats yakuake?
[09:35] <danielw> DaSkreech: thx, i'll log it
[09:35] <DaSkreech> !yakuake
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <omgzoras> the thread made it look like he was just ripping off the name or something
[09:35] <DaSkreech> dumb bot
[09:36] <omgzoras> and his version is buggy
[09:36] <DaSkreech> !info yakuake
[09:36] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[09:36] <subliminal727> oh hah
[09:36] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: this is the one with the multiple viewports right?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: yup
[09:37] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: have you tried it ?
[09:37] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: Well duh  :)
[09:37] <danielw> DaSkreech: Nevermind, its actually already logged
[09:37] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: does it work well? o_O
[09:37] <omgzoras> it would be pretty sweet to watch logs
[09:37] <DaSkreech> danielw: cool thanks
[09:38] <sivaji> DaSkreech yakuake is under construction
[09:38] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: ctrl+shift+T or Ctrl+shift+L
[09:38] <DaSkreech> then Ctrl+shift+up or down to switch tween them
[09:38] <r4ge> damn, kde is pretty slick these days :)
[09:38] <omgzoras> DaSkreech: nice
[09:39] <omgzoras> kde always kicked ass
[09:39] <subliminal727> gnome! woooooooo! yea!
[09:39] <subliminal727> kidding, don't shoot me
[09:39] <omgzoras> it just needs some assistance from the gnome HIG ppl so that they can hide options for a basic setting screen
[09:39] <r4ge> its getting there.
[09:40] <subliminal727> hey anyone in here used xubuntu...is it worth it?
[09:40] <omgzoras> no
[09:40] <omgzoras> xfce sucks
[09:41] <r4ge> what sucks about xfce?
[09:41] <subliminal727> i've never even looked at screens for it
[09:41] <omgzoras> it's a resource hog
[09:41] <omgzoras> kde is much more responsive than xfce =)
[09:41] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: they have screenies of it on the xubuntu site
[09:42] <subliminal727> cool
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Jucato: have you ever fielded a ICS question ?
[09:42] <omgzoras> ppl at work used to be freebsd xfce fans till i showed up with the kubuntu!
[09:43] <sivaji> is there any risk in installing YaKuake
[09:43] <omgzoras> i've been here 4 months everyone's switched to kubuntu.. and it has the vista guy here jealous ;)
[09:43] <DaSkreech> sivaji: nope
[09:43] <subliminal727> theres a such thing as a vista guy?
[09:43] <subliminal727> weird
[09:44] <subliminal727> i work in tech support at a major isp and i dont think theres any of that going around there
[09:44] <omgzoras> he's in marketing
[09:44] <subliminal727> ahhhh
[09:44] <subliminal727> i see
[09:44] <omgzoras> he hates it when his pc reboots at night for the updates
[09:44] <pawitp> Can anyone help me with yakuake going to my second screen
[09:44] <omgzoras> and then  kills his other sessions
[09:44] <subliminal727> my vista pc reboots whenever it feels like it
[09:44] <omgzoras> yep that's the complaint it seems like
[09:44] <subliminal727> only i don't think they call it rebooting
[09:45] <DaSkreech> pawitp: what?
[09:45] <omgzoras> w00t ok the installation is over bbiab...
[09:45] <DaSkreech> subliminal727: nope they redefined it
[09:45] <omgzoras> which server is this?
[09:45] <omgzoras> i just hit konversation and i got logged in here XD
[09:45] <pawitp> DaSkreech: yakuake starts on the right size of my screen which is my television
[09:45] <omgzoras> oh freenode
[09:45] <DaSkreech> omgzoras: then just do that again :)
[09:45] <subliminal727> its some sort of security feature...something about your monitor turning blue that prevents hackers from stealing your files
[09:46] <pawitp> DaSkreech: Nvidia twinview thingy
[09:46] <omgzoras> i'll be back.. i'll be named mordaunt
[09:46] <omgzoras> later
[09:46] <DaSkreech> pawitp: ah. umm move it back? I have no idea how tha works
[09:47] <Jjaannuuss> how to get mp3 support?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | Jjaannuuss
[09:47] <ubotu> Jjaannuuss: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:47] <pawitp> DaSkreech: It's not a movable window :(
[09:47] <DaSkreech> pawitp: hmm
[09:47] <sivaji> Jjaannuuss i had same auto rebooting problem but that is because of smps
[09:48] <sivaji> Jjaannuuss sorry
[09:48] <sivaji> subliminal727
[09:49] <subliminal727> man i dual booted vista and ubuntu when i first got this laptop and i didn't realize how vistas bootloader was different from xp
[09:49] <subliminal727> it screwed vista up so bad
[09:50] <pawitp> I remembered RSOD
[09:51] <pawitp> and that vista will refuse to install if the partition i'm not installing to is an active partition
[09:51] <subliminal727> yeah...plus the bootloader has to be on the master boot record instead
[09:51] <subliminal727> which grub obviously overwrites
[09:51] <DaSkreech> pawitp: that ought to stop you installing it twice on the same machine :)
[09:52] <pawitp> DaSkreech: I call it inconvinient when there is no setting to make it active in "Advanced option"
[09:52] <subliminal727> speaking of that when i went to reinstall it, it wouldn't take my oem key, vista made me call ms to activate the crap
[09:54] <mordaunt> ahh i'm back
[09:54] <subliminal727> let it be known
[09:55] <mordaunt> so what's the word on kubuntu and automatix?
[09:55] <mordaunt> they play well in the sandbox together?
[09:55] <ardchoille> !automatix
[09:56] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:56] <subliminal727> yeah automatix pissed me off
[09:56] <mordaunt> what did it do?
[09:57] <ardchoille> mordaunt: You're better off learning how to maintain your system yourself, rather than relying on some third-party script, because if something breaks, it's easier to fix it yourself or to get help.
[09:58] <subliminal727> none of the stuff it installed was showing up as installed on my computer in synaptic.  and it wouldn't uninstall through automatix
[09:58] <DaSkreech> mordaunt: Note this means that youw ill probably hose your system at least once :)
[09:58] <DaSkreech> but you WILL be smarter at the end of the day
[09:58] <DaSkreech>  Like knowing to make a /home partition from day one :)
[09:58] <subliminal727> most of the stuff it does isn't that hard to do
[09:59] <subliminal727> it was somewhat helpful on my brothers laptop w/ ndiswrapper though. we installed his broadcom wireless adapter manually, then when he reinstalled ubuntu he used that and it worked like a charm
[09:59] <mordaunt> i've always used it just to get the codecs, flash and java going in a hurry
[09:59] <ardchoille> I never understood why people use those things to install software when doing it manually is faster and easier.
[10:00] <pawitp> Why does yakuake love my TV Screen so much?
[10:00] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: safer you forgot safer
[10:00] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Indeed
[10:03] <mordaunt> so where DOES one go for the codecs flash and such ?
[10:03] <DaSkreech> !flash
[10:03] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:03] <ardchoille> !codecs
[10:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:03] <DaSkreech> tag team!
[10:03] <ardchoille> :)
[10:03] <mordaunt> =D
[10:03] <mordaunt> ah that's where it is
[10:03] <mordaunt> i still have to install firefox to get my bookmarks back XD
[10:04] <DaSkreech> or just import it
[10:04] <ardchoille> mordaunt: Why? Firefox bookmarks are set in a plain html file. Do you still have that file?
[10:04] <mordaunt> it's here some place
[10:04] <DaSkreech> !java | Might as well since mordaunt is going to ask sooner or later.
[10:04] <ubotu> Might as well since mordaunt is going to ask sooner or later.: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:04] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: hahaha
[10:05] <ardchoille> I've never used java or flash
[10:05] <mordaunt> you haven't experienced the awesome of youtube
[10:05] <subliminal727> was that sarcasm?
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Coffee is great!
[10:05] <pawitp> Thailand blocks youtube
[10:05] <subliminal727> jerks
[10:06] <subliminal727> why?
[10:06] <pawitp> Because someone uploaded a funny video of Thailand's king ages ago
[10:06] <subliminal727> wow
[10:06] <ardchoille> oppression
[10:07] <pawitp> and the video is down now but it won't be unblocked
[10:08] <pawitp> and internet is slow as hell since the ISP's transparent proxy server must go through a huge list of blocked site
[10:08] <sivaji> is it possible to have virtual cd drive in kubuntu
[10:08] <DaSkreech> sivaji: why bother?
[10:08] <subliminal727> thats crazy
[10:08] <pawitp> sivaji: Not sure, I just alway loop-mounted it
[10:08] <DaSkreech> sivaji: Just mount the image
[10:08] <pawitp> and /dev/loop* may as well be the virtual drive
[10:08] <sivaji> how to mount a image
[10:09] <ardchoille> !mount
[10:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:09] <pawitp> I'd like to know how to do it easily in GUI
[10:09] <ardchoille> Hmm.. that isn't what I thought it would be
[10:09] <pawitp> I alway used the command line to do so
[10:09] <mordaunt> ah.. 4 am.. the song of birds in the air...
[10:09] <mordaunt> time for bed o_O
[10:09] <DaSkreech> 3 am here
[10:09] <mordaunt> heh
[10:10] <mordaunt> so is anyone going to see the fantastic douchebags?
[10:10] <ardchoille> mordaunt: 4am.. time for bed? No, you had your chance.. muffed it.
[10:10] <mordaunt> lol yea
[10:10] <sivaji> pawitp what is that loop mounted
[10:11] <sivaji> pawitp
[10:11] <sivaji> !DiskMounter
[10:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[10:11] <pawitp> sivaji: I don't know if there is a gui way to do it but
[10:12] <pawitp> sivaji: mount -o loop,users [path to iso]  /mnt
[10:12] <pawitp> and umount /mnt when finished
[10:12] <sivaji> pawitp ok
[10:12] <r4ge> write a bash script and give it an icon.
[10:12] <r4ge> ;)
[10:13] <pawitp> I want something like how winrar handles iso
[10:13] <DaSkreech> pawitp: there is it's on KDE-look
[10:14] <pawitp> kde-look!?
[10:14] <r4ge> apt-cache search iso mount
[10:14] <pawitp> DaSkreech: What's the name?
[10:15] <DaSkreech> Yeah some woman made a right click mount iso/bin/nrg at /path/to/folder hack for Konqui
[10:15] <ardchoille> There is a kde app that sits in the systray and can mount/umount stuff, it's called kwikdisk and I think it's part of kdeutils
[10:16] <subliminal727> well i think im going to install kde now. gnight all
[10:16] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: I think that would be in the "service menus" section of kde-look
[10:18] <ardchoille> I was wrong, it's kdf. Install kdf and you'll get kwikdisk.. a tray app that lets you graphically mount/unmount things.
[10:19] <sivaji> pawitp DaSkreech ya it works fine thank u
[10:20] <sivaji> jucato u r a ops right
[10:21] <Jucato> sivaji: yes
[10:21] <eagles0513875> fsck was forced to run at startup but when its almost finished running it dies with a signal 3 what does taht mean
[10:21] <pawitp> ardchoille: I'd rather not have another app in my already busy tray
[10:21] <eagles0513875> also how can i fix it
[10:22] <sivaji> but konverstaion status bar show 0 ops
[10:22] <sivaji> Jucato
[10:22] <Jucato> sivaji: yes. we don't op unless necessary
[10:22] <ardchoille> pawitp: Ah, yeah, the tray can get right busy quick.
[10:23] <Jucato> pawitp: you can run kwikdisk w/o starting up kdf. but kdf still needs to be installed
[10:23] <Jucato> kwikdisk is part of kdf
[10:23] <dhq> fdoving, hi
[10:23] <dhq> fdoving, hi
[10:23] <sivaji> Jucato ho
[10:23] <pawitp> Isn't it kwikdisk that puts an icon in the try?
[10:23] <DaSkreech> well off to bed
[10:23] <pawitp> *tray
[10:23] <Jucato> pawitp: er... which ever of the two ehehe
[10:24] <dhq>  how do i get java jdk woring in kubuntu
[10:24] <ardchoille> Jucato: Do you know of any way to start up kwikdisk without it going to the tray?
[10:24] <Jucato> ardchoille: Alt+F2, kwikdisk?
[10:24] <Jucato> dhq: install sun-java6-jdk ?
[10:24] <ardchoille> Jucato: It goes directly to the tray :)
[10:24] <eagles0513875> what does it mean when fsck gives a signal 3
[10:25] <ardchoille> Jucato: I think it's a tray-only app
[10:25] <Jucato> ardchoille: sorry. I was thinking of kdf
[10:25] <ardchoille> Ah, yeah
[10:25] <Jucato> I get the two confused
[10:25] <ardchoille> ME too
[10:25] <DaSkreech> Night!
[10:25] <ardchoille> nn DaSkreech
[10:27] <eagles0513875> i need urgent help if anyone isnt busy
[10:27] <pawitp> I'm not
[10:27] <eagles0513875> pawitp: do u have any idea what it means when fsck terminates with a signal 3
[10:27] <pawitp> 3     SIGQUIT      create core image    quit program
[10:28] <dhq> Jucato, i have the jdk-6u1-linux-i586.bin wat to do with it
[10:28] <dhq> Jucato, i did sudo ./jdk-6u1-linux-i586.bin
[10:28] <pawitp> Core dumped then
[10:28] <Jucato> you'd be better off installing from the repos
[10:28] <eagles0513875> how can i fix it im running of the live cd
[10:28] <eagles0513875> it just keeps terminating and restarting itself
[10:28] <dhq> Jucato,well i am on a 5kb connection
[10:29] <pawitp> SIGQUIT is a user-activated signal so, I don't know
[10:29] <Jucato> !java
[10:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:29] <Jucato> dhq: try that page ^^^^^
[10:29] <eagles0513875> anyone know how i can get fsck to finish its check and not keep dumping
[10:30] <dhq> Jucato, let me see
[10:31] <sivaji> eagles0513875 have u tried #ubuntu
[10:31] <eagles0513875> im running kubuntu
[10:31] <eagles0513875> but ill try in there
[10:37] <epimeth> gmorning all!
[10:41] <heroin> can i un-delete stuff i removed in konqeuror?
[10:42] <ardchoille> heroin: If you deleted it, no. If you moved it to the trash, yes
[10:42] <heroin> ardchoille: i did the move to trash.. i hope
[10:43] <heroin> ardchoille: where shall i be able to find the trash?
[10:43] <ardchoille> in konq, type:  trash:/
[10:50] <Jucato> (although to some people, delete and move to trash are one and the same, because they are both performed by the "Delete" key :P)
[10:51] <ardchoille> well, the delete key moves to the trash and shift+delete actually deletes. But, Jucato has a good point.
[10:52] <Jucato> maybe we should start calling Shift+Del another thing... like "Destroy"? hehehe
[10:53] <ardchoille> haha
[10:53] <ardchoille> Jucato: Where is the "trash folder?
[10:53] <llutz> Jucato: they better change "Delete" into "move to trash"
[10:54] <Jucato> llutz: that's actually the real "name" of the action... but it doesn't help when your key is still named "Delete" right? :)
[10:54] <llutz> Jucato: spread stickers with ubuntu-cd :)
[10:54] <Jucato> ardchoille: ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[10:55] <Jucato> what? now we're going to call the Delete key the Ubuntu key? kinda ironic :)
[10:56] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, yeah. I never used trash beofre, perhaps I should start.
[10:56] <Jucato> I rarely do.. I usually keep or destroy... almost never in between...*almost*
[10:56] <ardchoille> Same
[10:57] <llutz> "trash" is a stupid thing. makes people deleting without thinking and drive them into trouble, at least when using the console...
[10:58] <ardchoille> in cli, rm is the only thing I know, so the files are actually gone
[10:58] <ardchoille> I never heard of this "trash" thing until I got into a gui
[10:58] <llutz> ardchoille: yes, but most noobs still think: a fine, i can recall it from trash
[10:59] <Jucato> never heard of undelete in MS-DOS? O.o
[10:59] <ardchoille> llutz: Ah, fair point that
[10:59] <Jucato> llutz: actually a Trash for the CLI is filesystem dependent..
[10:59] <Jucato> for example ext3 doesn't have one, but ext2 can, iirc
[10:59] <llutz> Jucato: sure but it's difficult
[11:00] <ardchoille> I haven't used ms-dos since 1984
[11:00] <Jucato> depends on the filesystem really
[11:00] <vista> how do i add a shortcut to run command in terminal on my desktop ?
[11:02] <sivaji_> vista rephrase that
[11:02] <vista> i want a shortcut on my desktop
[11:02] <vista> so that when i click it
[11:02] <ardchoille> Sounds like he wants a desktop shortcut that launches the ALT+F2 dialog
[11:02] <vista> it will run wvdial in terminal
[11:02] <yknott> vista: that is one of the properties of the shortcut (.desktop); make it first, then select properties, then check 'run in terminal window'
[11:03] <Jucato> vista: right-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Application
[11:03] <sivaji_> drag and drop
[11:03] <Jucato> then in the Application tab, click on the Advanced Options button
[11:03] <Jucato> sivaji_: that will not launch it in a terminal
[11:03] <vista> ya found it jucato thanks
[11:04] <vista> jucato: do i type the command in the terminal option ?
[11:04] <llutz> vista: why wvdial, doesn't work kppp work for you?
[11:04] <Jucato> no need. it will launch the default terminal (Konsole)
[11:04] <vista> i dont knw but my kppp isnt working
[11:04] <vista> whenever i click kpp it doesnt launch
[11:05] <vista> dont knw whats wrong
[11:05] <llutz> vista: try opening it in a console, it might give you some errors
[11:05] <ardchoille> vista: Try running kppp in a term and see if there's any error output
[11:05] <ardchoille> :P
[11:05] <llutz> <- 1st :)
[11:06] <vista> ardchoille : how do i run kppp in a term ?
[11:07] <ardchoille> type: kppp
[11:07] <vista> in terminal or run ?
[11:07] <ardchoille> vista: Most apps will run in a term simply by launching their filename
[11:08] <ardchoille> vista: In this case, in a terminal (konsole is good) cuz you won't get any error output in alt+f2
[11:08] <vista> ardchoille : im not the main user of this linux
[11:08] <vista> im on a differnt user
[11:08] <vista> is that a reason ?
[11:08] <vista> but im in the admin group
[11:08] <ardchoille> vista: Possibly, but I have never used kppp so I don't know if it needs sudo
[11:09] <vista> in terminal i typed kpp it said permission denied
[11:09] <ardchoille> IF you're in the admin grp, then it shouldn't matter
[11:09] <vista> it opened when i tried sudo
[11:09] <vista> so how do i eleminate this sudo
[11:09] <ardchoille> kppp is a graphical app, never use sudo with graphical apps, you need to use kdesu
[11:09] <llutz> vista: you'll have to be in group dialout aswell (iirc)
[11:09] <ardchoille> !kdesu | vista
[11:09] <ubotu> vista: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:09] <vista> ah let me try that
[11:11] <ardchoille> vista: Now that you have used sudo with a gui app, open a term and run: ls -la ~/.{ICE,X}authority
[11:11] <ardchoille> Make sure root doesn't own either of those files.
[11:12] <vista> llutz: i cant eidt group from this user account:(
[11:12] <vista> edit**
[11:12] <llutz> vista: you should  if you are member of admin :)
[11:13] <vista> ardchoille : i did that
[11:13] <vista>
[11:13] <vista> vista@tahsin-desktop:~$ ls -la ~/.{ICE,X}authority
[11:13] <vista> -rw------- 1 vista vista 205 2007-06-17 14:49 /home/vista/.ICEauthority
[11:13] <vista> -rw------- 1 vista vista 108 2007-06-17 14:49 /home/vista/.Xauthority
[11:13] <vista> vista@tahsin-desktop:~$
[11:13] <ardchoille> vista: Ok, you're fine :)
[11:13] <vista> llutz: its not prompting the password it just says loading... :s
[11:13] <ardchoille> Sometimes using sudo with a gui app can cause the ownership of those files to switch to root, which will prevent you from logging back in later.
[11:14] <vista> i c
[11:14] <vista> llutz: on what groups do i need to be if i want full access of this pc ?
[11:14] <vista> llutz: admin and..  ?
[11:15] <llutz> vista: admin should be fine, it enables you to use sudo
[11:15] <vista> llutz: any other groups ?
[11:15] <vista> llutz: like u said dial something
[11:15] <vista> dialout
[11:15] <llutz> vista: if i recall reight, kpp needs dialout + dip
[11:16] <vista> okay thanks
[11:17] <vista> llutz: but isnt it prompting password when i tried to edit the user management in administration mode ?
[11:17] <vista> llutz: just can see a loading page
[11:17] <crazy_bus> I've got a 800mb file I want to send to another computer in the same house.  The computer is connected to a wireless router.  Is there anyway to send the file with the router?
[11:18] <r4ge> antone tried alien arena yet? :)
[11:18] <vista> whats alien arena ?
[11:18] <llutz> vista: it's prompting your user-password
[11:18] <r4ge> http://games.internode.on.net/filelist.php?filedetails=9304
[11:18] <vista> can someone name some cool games for linux
[11:19] <yknott> no but openarena runs too slow for me through flgrx
[11:19] <vista> llutz: not yet its been 5min and it prompted nothing
[11:19] <llutz> vista: that's odd
[11:19] <vista> i knw
[11:19] <vista> llutz: what may be the problem
[11:20] <vista> games for linux ?
[11:21] <ardchoille> vista: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[11:21] <ardchoille> You'll be there a while ;)
[11:21] <vista> lol let me try
[11:23] <r4ge> ack, 10kb/s :<
[11:23] <ardchoille> eeewwww
[11:23] <r4ge> anything under 200kb/sec is unacceptable these days.
[11:24] <sivaji_> how to  check my ram size
[11:24] <ardchoille> True, DSL has spoiled us
[11:24] <vista> is that tur download speed ?
[11:24] <ardchoille> sivaji_: free
[11:24] <llutz> sivaji_: free -m
[11:25] <vista> my one is 18KB/s
[11:25] <vista> im using EDGE
[11:26] <vista> using my phone as modem
[11:26] <sivaji_> vista use prozilla u can utilize max bandwidth
[11:26] <sivaji_> !prozilla
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <sivaji_> !proz
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <r4ge> prozilla isnt in the repo
[11:27] <naught101> anyone know why, after installing a LAMP setup on a standard kubuntu feisty setup, http://<IP_ADDRESS> doesn't work/
[11:27] <naught101> ?
[11:27] <vista> sivaji_ where do i get it
[11:27] <sivaji_> yes but can install it
[11:27] <sivaji_> google
[11:28] <yknott> naught101: check that apache started;
[11:28] <eagles0513875> sivaji im on the live cd but for some reason regardless what i do im always getting that exit 3 regardless what i do
[11:28] <vista> is it worth it ?
[11:28] <vista> sivaji_ : is it worth it
[11:28] <sivaji_> ya
[11:29] <vista> let me try
[11:29] <sivaji_> 100% bandwidth
[11:29] <vista> sivaji_ : it says cant find a debain package
[11:29] <sivaji_> i will give u that
[11:29] <r4ge> http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/prozgui
[11:30] <eagles0513875> sivaji_: m on the live cd but for some reason regardless what i do im always getting that exit 3 regardless what i do when i run fsck at start up
[11:30] <vista> thanks
[11:30] <naught101> yknott: no, but when I run "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" I get nothing, no start message, no error
[11:30] <vista> sivaji_ : how do i accept it ?
[11:31] <yknott> naught101: you could check the logs /var/log/apache2
[11:31] <sivaji_> vista DCCstatus->acceopt button
[11:31] <naught101> true
[11:31] <sivaji_> vista left bottom
[11:31] <yknott> or ps -A | grep apache
[11:31] <vista> sivaji_ : got it
[11:32] <sivaji_> eagles0513875 i too had that problem but somehow i could mange that ,
[11:32] <vista> sivaji_ : download failed :(
[11:32] <eagles0513875> manage what sivaji_
[11:33] <sivaji_> eagles0513875 i just ran fsck i become alright i didnt get any error
[11:33] <vista> sivaji_ :can you please send it again
[11:34] <naught101> yknott: nothing. apache (1.3 I assume is also installed... don't know why. I'd have thought they were mutually exclusive?)
[11:34] <eagles0513875> i keep getting the error
[11:34] <eagles0513875> its like in an infinite loop
[11:34] <naught101> wow that ")" move to the end, all by itself
[11:34] <sivaji_> eagles0513875 have u tried recovery mode
[11:34] <eagles0513875> yes same thing
[11:35] <sivaji_> vista what u r not receiving that
[11:35] <vista> sivaji_ : no it said download failed
[11:35] <eagles0513875> from some reason i cant resize the partition was goign to create a new install and get all my stuff off there then repartitiona and reinstall it on the full partition i have it on
[11:36] <yknott> naught101: not sure where the log for that one is
[11:36] <eagles0513875> i think i might have solved the problem
[11:37] <yknott> naught101: did you see anything with ps -A | grep apache
[11:37] <naught101> yknott: no,nothing.
[11:37] <sivaji_> eagles0513875 try e2fsck
[11:37] <naught101> maybe I should just purge it all, adn reinstall it
[11:38] <sivaji_> !shipit
[11:38] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[11:39] <yknott> there should be ubuntu docs for getting lamp set up, check the website to walk you through it  perhaps http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/05/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-lamp-server.html
[11:39] <yknott> naught101: ah nevermind, that was for server
[11:39] <naught101> ok, I'll see what I can do. cheers, yknott
[11:39] <sivaji_> is kubuntu supports multiprocessor system ?
[11:40] <naught101> ...? apache IS a server?
[11:40] <r4ge> smp
[11:40] <pawitp> sivaji_: Yes
[11:40] <yknott> naught101: no i meant for ubuntu server, there is an option during install for "LAMP"
[11:40] <naught101> yknott: ahh, the walkthough is for the LAMP CD.. yeah, useless
[11:41] <yknott> naught101: i was thinking at help.ubuntu.com
[11:42] <yknott> naught101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMP
[11:42] <yknott> naught101: but if you have not touched the config of apache, then you are probably getting the unresolved hostname error   "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName"
[11:43] <yknott> naught101: so you could edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf to set that,
[11:46] <naught101> yknott: ok, will do, then I'll see what happens
[11:54] <sa> hi everyone
[11:55] <sa> i am trying to sync my palm pilot with the application "kpilot"
[11:56] <sa> the kpilot faq says that my palm pilot works great in Debian but is unstable in kernel 2.6 and kde 3.4.3
[11:56] <sa> what is debian, kernel and kde?
[11:56] <waylandbill_> draik: you can always use the program mimms
[11:57] <sa> what exaclty is debian, kernel and kde?
[11:57] <pawitp> sa: Debian is a linux distrobution that ubuntu is based on
[11:58] <_4strO> sa: google is your friend
[11:58] <pawitp> sa: Kernel is the core of linux
[11:58] <sa> pawitp: ok
[11:58] <epimeth> _4strO: what up amigo?
[11:58] <sa> pawitp: Thanks alot
[11:58] <_4strO> yop
[11:58] <pawitp> sa: KDE is the desktop environment that kubuntu uses
[11:58] <sa> _4strO: I better like being friends with people in #kubuntu :)
[11:59] <sa> pawitp: thank you
[11:59] <_4strO> sa: yep but we're not wikipedia :p
[11:59] <epimeth> sa: the kernel is the code that lies at the heart of an operating system
[12:00] <sa> _4strO: I thought this channel was for getting and giving help. correct me if I am wrong
[12:00] <sa> epimeth: thank you
[12:00] <_4strO> sa: you're right
[12:00] <epimeth> sa: it is, but people tend to be more willing to help those that at least try to help themselves
[12:01] <sa> epimeth: cool :)
[12:01] <llutz> sa: what you mean is: "help me, i'm too lazy" and that#s not the intention of support-chans
[12:02] <sa> llutz: no buddy, i tried to look up debian on google but as i am a linux noob i needed a more simple explanation
[12:02] <epimeth> sa: there are plenty of people who need help here, and those that make more of an effort to understand their problem will get more help because we have to spend less time explaining ourselves.  and therefore can resolve problems quickly.  when people take the lazy approach, *we* have to explain more and therefore less people get helped
[12:02] <_4strO> that's what i would say llutz
[12:03] <ina> Hello! Can someone tell me how I kqann install a amarok design?
[12:03] <pawitp> kqann -> can?
[12:03] <ina> downloadded some and tell amarok to install them but still no changes
[12:03] <sa> epimeth: cool, gotcha
[12:05] <_4strO> ina did you go in the amarok configuration ?
[12:05] <sivaji> when i run google earth xorg restarts y
[12:05] <ina> _4strO: Yes I did.
[12:07] <_4strO> ina: and did you close and repopen the amarok configuration ?
[12:07] <sivaji>  sivaji anyone using google earth here , someone had this problem ever before
[12:07] <sivaji> when i run google earth xorg restarts y
[12:08] <_4strO> sivaji: video card ?
[12:08] <sivaji> s3unichrome
[12:08] <_4strO> sivaji: are you using beryl or compcomm or compiz ?
[12:08] <sivaji> nd
[12:08] <_4strO> nd ?
[12:10] <sivaji> not beryl other one starts with n
[12:10] <ina> _4strO: Yes I did.
[12:10] <sivaji> ndavdia!
[12:10] <sivaji> !ndavdia
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndavdia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <_4strO> nvidia ...
[12:10] <sivaji> ya
[12:10] <_4strO> :)
[12:10] <sivaji> when i update my os ,automatically it got installed
[12:11] <ina> _4strO: the check that ypu add the settings is clickable but not green.
[12:11] <sivaji> _4strO:
[12:11] <_4strO> ina : ypu ?
[12:12] <pawitp> ypu -> gpu
[12:12] <sivaji> _4strO : say something i am waiting for u  here
[12:13] <_4strO> sivaji: i think you dont have any 3D acceleration on your computer
[12:13] <ina> _4strO: waht is gpu? (sorry I am a noob)
[12:13] <sivaji> _4strO ho
[12:13] <sivaji> _4strO is it hardware or software
[12:14] <sivaji> !gpu
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <_4strO> sivaji: hardware
[12:15] <_4strO> sivaji: type in a console (terminal) glxgear | grep -i direct
[12:15] <_4strO> sivaji: oups
[12:15] <_4strO> glxinfo | grep -i direct
[12:15] <waylandbill_> _4strO: don't you mean glxinfo.
[12:15] <_4strO> yes :p
[12:15] <waylandbill_> yup. you did. :-)
[12:16] <ina> _4strO:shall i do this?
[12:16] <_4strO> ina: what is the meaning of this ? 4strO: the check that ypu add the settings is clickable but not green.
[12:17] <sivaji_> _4strO u saw that
[12:17] <_4strO> ina: if you want a new style in amarok go in amarok ->configuration / amarok configuration
[12:18] <_4strO> sivaji_: for myself : direct rendering: Yes