[04:43] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin | techjim
 for your running kernel by invoking the following command:
[04:43] <ubotu> techjim: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:43] <shanerdaner> o
 "/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl". Do you want this script to invoke the command for
[04:43] <wastrel> yups
 you now? [yes]
 Making sure services for VMware Workstation are stopped.
 Stopping VMware services:
[04:43] <shanerdaner> i need a wysiwyg editor
    Virtual machine monitor                                             done
    Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0                                   done
    DHCP server on /dev/vmnet1                                          done
[04:44] <gumjo> I have a strange problem. I have to reconfigure xorg to increase resolution to it matches my monitor. that runs fine. however, when I edit it to add a line so it runs beryl correctly, it reverts back to its original state
[04:44] <vox754> usser, it was your fault, you should be banned too
[04:44] <Music_Shuffle> Ah. Stoooooooop.
    Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet1                                 done
    DHCP server on /dev/vmnet8                                          done
[04:44] <shane634> !pastebin | techjim
    NAT service on /dev/vmnet8                                          done
    Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet8                                 done
[04:44] <Electricity> daneel: How do I get it?
    Virtual ethernet                                                    done
 Configuring fallback GTK+ 2.4 libraries.
[04:44] <usser> arrrhhh
 In which directory do you want to install the mime type icons?
[04:44] <kbrosnan> Electricity: nvu is a standalone html editor using the mozill codebase
 [/usr/share/icons]
[04:44] <Pelo> !ops
[04:44] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
 What directory contains your desktop menu entry files? These files have a
 .desktop file extension. [/usr/share/applications]
[04:44] <daneel> Electricity: sudo apt-get install nvu
 In which directory do you want to install the application's icon?
[04:44] <Music_Shuffle> ....you've gotta be kidding me.
[04:44] <chamunks> Pelo, ;) sall good i figured if i poked someone may come up with something so i got something i didnt mean to be as annoying
[04:44] <Xenguy> lalala
[04:44] <|Jason8|> I just finished downloading the feisty alternate CD.  How can I upgrade using that?
[04:44] <bianconeri> lol techjim reminded me of my old days, poor jimmy :(
[04:44] <chamunks> Pelo, cheers :)
[04:45] <spiderfire> hi
[04:45] <SuperSub> Can anyone assist with configuring my scanner it was working but know i get a error message saying it can't comm with device
[04:45] <jl> thanks all of you guys i solved my problem with mysql server
[04:45] <spiderfire> how do i get fluxbox default menus
[04:45] <Electricity> Is there a way to boot my Live CD andupgrade it to an FF Live CD?
[04:45] <Pelo> chamunks,  you weren'T being annoying ,   but some ppl get mad when they dont, get any replies
[04:45] <techjim> he asked of me... so I did it.  I figured it was against rules... lol.  Sorry.    Sorry guys
[04:45] <usser> techjim: hm that aws something =)
[04:45] <Music_Shuffle> techjim: try other pastebins.
[04:45] <jrib> techjim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:45] <Electricity> techjim: www.kxuk.net/paste
[04:45] <Xenguy> techjim: use #flood too
[04:45] <usser> techjim: sorry
[04:45] <zeroday> daneel: ok lets try this may not work
[04:45] <spiderfire> !ubotu fluxbox
[04:45] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[04:45] <bianconeri> techjim there are lots of pastebins just google pastebin ;)
[04:45] <chamunks> Pelo, true enough i usually just leave n come back when i have a more targeted question
[04:45] <daneel> zeroday, yeah
[04:46] <shanerdaner> hi
[04:46] <bianconeri> so anybody got to get Joost to work under wine?
[04:46] <zeroday> daneel: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist/
[04:46] <shanerdaner> k im on the other pc
[04:46] <spiderfire> !ubotu fluxbox
[04:46] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[04:46] <zeroday> daneel: you are using fiesty right?
[04:46] <Pelo> bianconeri,  try asking in #winehq
[04:46] <ravigr8> How to ntfs partition in kubunu
[04:46] <daneel> zeroday: no gedit. i havent got to the gui
[04:46] <gumjo> hi I have a problem with xorg
[04:46] <usser> techjim: looks like everything is right,
[04:46] <daneel> zeroday: yes
[04:46] <shanerdaner> can anyone help me with that netgear card?
[04:46] <spiderfire> how do i make fluxbox generate default menus
[04:46] <Elmer> I am trying to install Ubuntu on an old box and it is weirding out on me. When I choose "start or install Ubuntu," it loads a bit, then shows a standard-desktop color rectangle about 3/4 of the screen and hangs there for eternity. What should I do?
[04:46] <Pelo> !ntfs > ravigr8  check pm
[04:46] <Music_Shuffle> !ntfs | ravigr8
[04:46] <usser> techjim: what does it say when u run vmware. from console
[04:46] <ubotu> ravigr8: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:46] <zeroday> daneel: did you upgrade?
[04:46] <daneel> zeroday: right now im trying dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:46] <|Jason8|> Xenguy, if you want to try fluxbox, you can always go to www.damnsmalllinux.org and try it in that distro
[04:46] <Music_Shuffle> Pssh.  I'm too slow at this :P
[04:46] <shane634> shanerdaner, which card is it?
[04:47] <daneel> zeroday: no. trying a fresh install
[04:47] <Xenguy> |Jason8|: cool
[04:47] <shanerdaner> WG511T
[04:47] <Pelo> Elmer,  try xubuntu it's a bit liter , nice for older systems
[04:47] <spiderfire> |Jason8|: is damnsmall what package system?
[04:47] <zeroday> daneel: you need to boot with your intel card activated in the bios
[04:47] <shanerdaner> ty for helping shane
[04:47] <richard> ixar
[04:47] <eck> Elmer: how much ram do you have?
[04:47] <BK> Hi, I downloaded the RPM file for LimeWire. I used alien to change it to a .deb file and installed it. but when I try to run LimeWire in the terminal I get "(" unexpected (expecting "}") . I was talking to a friend a while ago and he said to update java, I was running 6.10 at the time so I did, but it still wouldn't work so I had to use some special command to start it. My question now is,...
[04:47] <BK> ...Does 7.04 have updated java? WHat command would I need to use in order to start LimeWIre?
[04:47] <shane634> shanerdaner, i haven't yet lol
[04:47] <eck> Elmer: you might need to use the alternate install cd
[04:47] <vashypooh> does anyone know how to remove a call that Gnome is makeing on load to a config file that doesnt exist
[04:47] <shanerdaner> lol
[04:47] <Xenguy> Pelo: fluxbox is lighter than XFCE AFAIK
[04:47] <Elmer> 128 MB (it's old)
[04:47] <shanerdaner> well trying anyway
[04:47] <zeroday> BK: jsut download frostwire debs
[04:47] <eck> Elmer: yeah, you need to use the alternate cd (text based install)
[04:48] <Xenguy> Elmer: if you want the lightest, go with fluxbox
[04:48] <usser> BK: i belive limewire comes in tar.gz too
[04:48] <Elmer> I'll dl the alt install disc
[04:48] <shane634> shanerdaner, give me the card and we will see what we can find for ya
[04:48] <Pelo> BK,  use frostwire instead,  very similar to limewire without the spyware
[04:48] <spiderfire> how do you instlall xubuntu?
[04:48] <usser> BK: why not use it
[04:48] <Elmer> thnx!
[04:48] <shanerdaner> it works when i unplug the battery
[04:48] <daneel> zeroday: im in the middle of reconfiguring the x server right now. if it does not work, i will try with the intel. can you wait for a couple of minutes >?
[04:48] <eck> if you want the lightest, go with twm ;-)
[04:48] <shirish> guys what is cli command to extract a .tar.gz
[04:48] <shanerdaner> ok its a netgear WG511T
[04:48] <zeroday> daneel: sure but it wont work
[04:48] <spiderfire> ratpoison
[04:48] <Pelo> Xenguy,   is there an officail  fluxbox ubuntu ?
[04:48] <|Jason8|> spiderfire, damnsmall uses a thing called mydsl, but can be configured to use apt-get
[04:48] <eck> shanerdaner: tar -xvzf foo.tar.gz
[04:48] <bieb> tar -zxvf
[04:48] <xtknight> shirish, sup
[04:48] <Music_Shuffle> !flubuntu
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <Xenguy> spiderfire: there's a CD image for it, or you can do a manual install of that desktop
[04:48] <eck> err, that was directed at shirish
[04:48] <Music_Shuffle> !fluxbuntu
[04:48] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[04:49] <Music_Shuffle> Pelo: ^
[04:49] <shirish> xtknight: hey m8, right now installing a virtual image for gusty
[04:49] <spiderfire> Xenguy: whats the manual install command
[04:49] <Music_Shuffle> Sorry, didn't want to pipe it without knowing if it was a legit command or not.
[04:49] <shanerdaner> do i paste that in my terminal
[04:49] <xtknight> shirish, they have a Herd of it yet?
[04:49] <Xenguy> Pelo: not separately AFAIK, but you can just install and configure and go :-)
[04:49] <Pelo> Elmer,  I'm told you can also try fluxbuntu , even lighter
[04:49] <sxlwbzk> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <kvgjulkimjqq> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <zyinmofxyc> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <j3w> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <okhxnfun> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <oujbdqkgojq> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <ousjmyiv> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <hzpwddxsvxg> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <cntjdowzb> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <tyvkwzhpcwv> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!  NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <dyqdbejccn> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!  NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <qngwekywbm> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <ndgdqfwxa> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <sdfigstduzsj> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <qtjmulbc> NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT! NO A NIGRA IS DOING THAT!
[04:49] <Xenguy> whoa
[04:49] <usser> whoa
[04:49] <Pelo> !ops
[04:49] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[04:49] <shane634> shanerdaner, go look here http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=19006375
[04:49] <zcat[1] > lame...
[04:49] <usser> damm
[04:49] <Xenguy> !ops attach
[04:49] <Pelo> what's the deal tonight
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops attach - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <xtknight> lol pathetic ppl
[04:49] <Elmer> what is fluxbuntu?
[04:49] <Xenguy> !ops attack
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops attack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <cafuego> Pelo: weekend
[04:49] <shirish> xtknight: nope but the tool-chain is in process of uploading, already something like 100 odd packages up
[04:49] <shane634> Seveas, wow i have big lag now
[04:50] <zcat[1] > Xenguy: seveas is onto it already :)
[04:50] <Xenguy> zcat[1] : tx
[04:50] <nemik> so where is that one file in /var/lib where all the apt-get package descriptions are?
[04:50] <xtknight> nemik, it's called control or status i believe
[04:50] <tarelerulz> I have lost . I can't seem to find my samba sever with my other computer by any name. I have to put its ip in
[04:50] <shane634> shanerdaner go look here http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=19006375
[04:50] <bieb> !fluxbuntu | Elmer
[04:50] <ubotu> Elmer: fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[04:50] <Pelo> Elmer,  I'm told you can also try fluxbuntu , even lighter
[04:51] <tarelerulz> What I would like to know is how do you find out what use is default for samba ? if you don't set one up ?
[04:51] <nemik> xtknight: ywa i think you're right but i can't find it
[04:51] <eck> Elmer: no matter what you do though, a computer that old is going to be slow :-\
[04:51] <Pelo> tarelerulz,  you could try asking in #samba
[04:51] <Electricity> WTH was that/
[04:51] <kalifornia909> i need help with raid please someone help
[04:51] <xtknight> nemik, /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:51] <qiyong> how to add bulk comment? add # to many lines
[04:52] <eck> qiyong: what text editor are you using?
[04:52] <Pelo> !raid | kalifornia909
[04:52] <ubotu> kalifornia909: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:52] <qiyong> eck, vim
[04:52] <tarelerulz> Well, Samba people don't help much at all? I don't think everyone should tell me ,but if some one happened to know that would be nice
[04:52] <kalifornia909> Pelo that doesnt help
[04:52] <xtknight> kalifornia909, i have some raid experience
[04:52] <kalifornia909> i need a human
[04:52] <nemik> xtknight: yes that's it! thanks so much!
[04:52] <eggauah> how can I allow a regular user to access a device? I'm having trouble opening /dev/video1394/0
[04:52] <xtknight> and yeah the RAID articles are largely useless
[04:52] <eck> qiyong: highligt the lines in visual mode, then type :s/^/#/
[04:52] <kalifornia909> xtknight, do you know why my raid array would not accept a file system
[04:52] <Pelo> kalifornia909, ok,  then restate your question periodicaly until someone who can help shows p
[04:52] <kalifornia909> Pelo thanks
[04:52] <xtknight> kalifornia909, you've executed mdadm --create ?
[04:53] <kalifornia909> xtknight nope. wasnt in the guidelines from !raid....dont know how to do it
[04:53] <Intertricity> Anyone know how I can access tty6 from an pts terminal?
[04:53] <xtknight> kalifornia909, ok do you have the two block devices of the partitions or drives which you would like to RAID together?
[04:53] <cafuego> kalifornia909: You have a bunch of partitions marked as linux raid yah?
[04:53] <xtknight> kalifornia909, what have you tried so far?
[04:53] <kalifornia909> i have dmraid installed
[04:54] <kalifornia909> it sets it up as a lvm
[04:54] <kalifornia909> i set up a /boot / and a /home /swap partition
[04:54] <xtknight> hrm i dont know about lvm, only raid
[04:54] <qiyong> eck, thanks
[04:54] <xtknight> kalifornia909, so you would like your RAID to be /? or /home? or what?
[04:54] <kalifornia909> xtknight so what do i need to do
[04:54] <kalifornia909> i have 2 raptors in raid 0 from my bios
[04:55] <zcat[1] > what's dmraid?
[04:55] <xtknight> kalifornia909, oh bios raid0 :|
[04:55] <xtknight> hmm
[04:55] <xtknight> kalifornia909, what controller?
[04:55] <kalifornia909> thats what suse labeled it lol
[04:55] <kalifornia909> sil3224 i think
[04:55] <cafuego> kalifornia909: Is there any chance you can use them as normal disks in the bios and let the kernel do raid?
[04:55] <xtknight> sil3114?
[04:55] <xtknight> that's what was on my board at least
[04:55] <xtknight> i'm using SWraid now
[04:55] <kalifornia909> cafuego its a duel boot system
[04:55] <cafuego> kalifornia909: ie: is there data on them that needs keeping?
[04:55] <xtknight> SWraid is geerally a better idea
[04:55] <dstaley> Could you force a resolution not supported by your laptop, but on an external monitor?
[04:55] <cafuego> kalifornia909: Ok, I can't help then.
[04:56] <xtknight> you could use JBOD
[04:56] <xtknight> to make them appear normal
[04:56] <xtknight> and then SWraid them
[04:56] <cafuego> The best advice on bios raid (rai0 even, arrgh! bad!) is "don't use it"
[04:57] <kalin> hey, i'm looking to setup one of my drives as an encrypted filesystem, is there some standardish fs for this with ubuntu?
[04:57] <zcat[1] > dammit, this machine I'm trying to install keeps booting into 640x480 on the livecd. I don't have an alternate cd for 6.06 and I didn't really want to put 7.04 on it...
[04:57] <shane634> preston, any luck mate?
[04:57] <screechingcat> zeroday: you there ?
[04:58] <zcat[1] > cafuego: fake raid is even worse...
[04:58] <xtknight> zcat[1] , fake raid as in SW raid?
[04:58] <cafuego> zcat[1] : that's *exactly* what he has
[04:58] <BKisME> Hi, I downloaded the RPM file for LimeWire. I used alien to change it to a .deb file and installed it. but when I try to run LimeWire in the terminal I get "(" unexpected (expecting "}") . I was talking to a friend a while ago and he said to update java, I was running 6.10 at the time so I did, but it still wouldn't work so I had to use some special command to start it. My question now is,...
[04:58] <BKisME> ...Does 7.04 have updated java? WHat command would I need to use in order to start LimeWIre?
[04:58] <xtknight> or pseudo HW raid
[04:58] <EdgEy> ? frostwire
[04:58] <xtknight> sw raid is awesome
[04:59] <EdgEy> !frostwire
[04:59] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:59] <kalifornia909>  would i be able to not use it in linux and reinstall window to use it
[04:59] <cafuego> Indeed. my md raid5 rocks.
[04:59] <shane634> !frostwire | BKisME
[04:59] <ubotu> BKisME: please see above
[04:59] <mneptok> BKisME: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella ;)
[04:59] <zcat[1] > yeah.. 'hardware raid' that's actually software raid using binary drivers... the worst possible features of both.
[04:59] <xtknight> zcat[1] , yeah i agree that sucks
[04:59] <screechingcat> EdgEy: limewire is also opensource
[04:59] <kalifornia909> why is ubuntu so difficult to install to raid
[04:59] <xtknight> kalifornia909, which is why i suggest you eliminate the Sil3114 raid config and get a SW raid
[04:59] <xtknight> kalifornia909, it isn't difficult, if you use SWraid.  mine was as easy as a normal parition, almost
[05:00] <cafuego> kalifornia909: It's not, the problem is that your "raid" is not raid.
[05:00] <xtknight> swraid is an easy, open standard and it's often faster than the fakeraid
[05:00] <kalifornia909> it is according to suse
[05:00] <kalifornia909> and every other distro
[05:00] <xtknight> suse is being nice
[05:00] <xtknight> ;)
[05:00] <BKisME> mneptok : is that for frostwire or limewire?
[05:00] <screechingcat> BKisME: just google the error. i had the same problem and found a fix for it
[05:01] <cafuego> kalifornia909: Thing is, your raid is being controlled by a piece of proprietary software in a cheap controller, that runs FAR slower than the kernel could do things.
[05:01] <mneptok> BKisME: it's for GTK-Gnutella. the *easiest* way onto the Gnutella network from Ubuntu
[05:01] <Pi4uks> Help plz - i need .rar extractor...
[05:01] <xtknight> !unrar | Pi4uks
[05:01] <ubotu> Pi4uks: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:01] <cafuego> kalifornia909: it will run OK with dmraid, which you 8should* be able to set up... I just never sued it, so I don't know how.
[05:01] <Pi4uks> !info unrar-free
[05:01] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:01] <cafuego> kalifornia909: The wiki would probably have some pointers though.
[05:01] <kalifornia909> cafuego ive tried installing dm raid
[05:01] <hendrixski> how does email threading work in evolution?  I click on on view--> by thread... and I thought it's supposed to organize it ..Do I need to set up a thread before it can be done?  googling didn't give me anything I could understand
[05:02] <cafuego> kalifornia909: That's the *only* way it's going to work
[05:02] <Pi4uks> :( i have dapper
[05:02] <kalifornia909> cafuego. it doesnt take. i cant get the file system to the partition
[05:02] <xtknight> !info unrar-free dapper
[05:02] <kalifornia909> !lvm
[05:02] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[05:02] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:02] <xtknight> Pi4uks, dapper has it ^^
[05:02] <hendrixski> actually.. i've never had any mail organized by thread before...I'm not familiar... could anyone explain it or point me to an explanation?
[05:03] <eck> hendrixski: it will only work if the person responding to the thread has a compliant mail program... if you look at the email headers you will see some references lines, evolution uses that to determine where in the thread the email is
[05:03] <cafuego> hendrixski: threading (proper threading) groups messages by message id references, so related messages get put together.
[05:03] <kalin> Can anyone recommend what I should look for for using encrypted filesystems in ubuntu?
[05:03] <eck> hendrixski: some mail programs (e.g. outlook express) will break the threading
[05:03] <kalifornia909> i really really like ubuntu i dont want to learn another distro
[05:04] <xtknight> kalifornia909, why again can't you use md raid?
[05:04] <xtknight> or mdadm or w/e they call it
[05:04] <cafuego> xtknight: There is apparently already data on the raid
[05:04] <kalifornia909> xtknight what is md raid
[05:04] <xtknight> kalifornia909, that's what worked for me.  it was so easy to setup
[05:04] <hendrixski> eck, cafuego,  oh.. so if the other person sends through evolution?
[05:04] <Pelo> kalifornia909,  switching to another distro is not like swtiching from windows to linux
[05:04] <kalifornia909> xtknight i have no idea how to do what youre saying
[05:04] <hendrixski> eck, cafuego or if the other persons mail server supports threading?
[05:04] <cafuego> hendrixski: As long as their mail client keeps reference IDs in the mail header it'll be fine
[05:05] <xtknight> kalifornia909, okay well first you'll need to grab the data that you have on there because it will be destroyed
[05:05] <cafuego> hendrixski: Some do, most MS ones break it
[05:05] <kalifornia909> its fine
[05:05] <kalifornia909> i dont store anything important on this machine
[05:05] <xtknight> kalifornia909, secondly you need the ubuntu alternate CD.  this will help you setup RAID
[05:05] <mneptok> kalifornia909: what is your goal?
[05:05] <xtknight> kalifornia909, the regular ubutnu CD can not assist you with RAID like the alternate can
[05:05] <kalifornia909> already have it burned
[05:05] <eck> hendrixski: outlook is the only thing that I know of that will break threading
[05:05] <Pi4uks> aaaaa, help! i brokem my apt-get... dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[05:05] <mneptok> kalifornia909: RAID for volume spanning or mirroring?
[05:05] <xtknight> kalifornia909, well then when you create the partitions mark them as RAID
[05:05] <xtknight> raid0=striping
[05:05] <hendrixski> eck, cafuego, gmail does threading, right?
[05:06] <kalifornia909> mneptok raid 0
[05:06] <mEck0> I solved my problem...
[05:06] <cafuego> hendrixski: Maybe, someone who uses it might know.
[05:06] <BKisME> Ok, so I got that prob with Limewire fixed but I need to update java now. How do I do that?
[05:06] <kalifornia909> xtnight the option of this is part of a raid
[05:06] <eck> hendrixski: i believe so
[05:06] <julian> Is there a way to make network manager connect to my wireless lan automatically?
[05:06] <Electricity> Yay, ty jrib
[05:06] <mneptok> kalifornia909: LVM can do that for you
[05:06] <XP1> is it possible to disable floppy detection during installation?
[05:06] <Pi4uks> Someone help me plz! What to do, if dpkg --configure -a not working and i cant use apt-get?
[05:07] <kalifornia909> mneptok LVM will not accept any type of file system on it
[05:07] <hendrixski> eck, cafuego sweet.  Thanks a lot.  That explained exactly what I was doing wrong.  I'll send to my friends gmail account instead..  :-)  Thank you :-)
[05:07] <eck> hendrixski: that is, it is compliant with threading, the message view in gmail is not threaded
[05:07] <BKisME> How do I update java in 7.04?
[05:07] <vashypooh> Can anyone help fix this? /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[05:07] <vashypooh> .: 2: Can't open /etc/X11/imwheel/startup.conf
[05:07] <xtknight> kalifornia909, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LVMOnRaid
[05:07] <Pi4uks> Someone help me plz! What to do, if dpkg --configure -a not working and i cant use apt-get?
[05:07] <vic2> YEAAAAA, wazzup crakaz
[05:07] <cafuego> kalifornia909: You did create a volume on lvm first, right?
[05:07] <mneptok> kalifornia909: do yau have RAID hardware?
[05:07] <mneptok> *you
[05:07] <hivemind> Is it really worth it to update edgy to feisty?
[05:08] <xtknight> hivemind, definitely IMO
[05:08] <xtknight> lots of niceties
[05:08] <hendrixski> eck, oh... :-(  well... I dunno if it's important for them... I just send a lot of correspondences, and want it organized by topic on my box
[05:08] <Intertricity> feisty helped me convert over to linux :D
[05:08] <xtknight> and if you have a separate /home partition like you should, it's easy ;)
[05:08] <mneptok> kalifornia909: and is it decent RAID hardware? not Highpoint or some drek controller?
[05:08] <kalifornia909> cafuego is set up dmraid which set up a lvm vol
[05:08] <xtknight> mneptok, he has a sil3114
[05:08] <BKisME> hivemind, 7.04 FTW!
[05:08] <kalifornia909> mneptok i have 2 raptors on raid 0
[05:08] <hendrixski> eck, thanks again :-)
[05:08] <vic2> guys is the XGL desktop called beryl?
[05:08] <hivemind> xtknight, I didn't, but I have everything important backed up.
[05:08] <kalifornia909> with a sil raid chip
[05:08] <hendrixski> Pi4uks, how is apt not working?  do you get a message?
[05:08] <hivemind> vic2, beryl is a fork from compiz
[05:08] <vic2> guys is the XGL desktop called beryl?
[05:09] <hivemind> vic2, So, yes, more or less
[05:09] <BKisME> How do I update Java in 7.04 through the terminal?
[05:09] <vic2> hivemind: i dont understand u, im a total n00b,,  ok
[05:09] <Pi4uks> hendrixski: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:09] <xtknight> BKisME, do you want java 6?
[05:09] <xtknight> Pi4uks, close any open synaptic things
[05:09] <BKisME> if it is the latest then yes
[05:09] <hivemind> vic2, Answer: Close enough.
[05:09] <cafuego> kalifornia909: Ys, but lvm is a container, in which you  need to create actual volumes to hold the filesystems
[05:10] <xtknight> BKisME, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[05:10] <Pi4uks> hendrixski: when i use dpkg --configure -a: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[05:10] <BKisME> Thank you very mch
[05:10] <xtknight> BKisME, it won't necessarily be the latest revision but 6 is the latest major version
[05:10] <hendrixski> Pi4uks, oh that's an easy one.  Something else is using apt.  so either you have it open in another window, or in the background... your you're running synaptic  :-)
[05:10] <hivemind> The way to not be a noob is to read
[05:10] <BKisME> K np thanks
[05:10] <hivemind> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_%28window_manager%29
[05:10] <xtknight> BKisME, and it will automatically update as soon as the latest revision is in the repostiories
[05:10] <baggito> is anything in /var/cache fair game for deletion?
[05:10] <kalifornia909> cafuego i created the partitions and set the mount points
[05:10] <AndrewL250> I'm new to linux.  Can someone please teach me how to install software that isn't in the channel?
[05:10] <cafuego> kalifornia909: So, raid -> storage -> lvm -> [ volume group -> volume ]  -> filesystem
[05:10] <xtknight> baggito, "sudo apt-get autoclean" is a safe way to delete crap in there
[05:10] <hendrixski> Pi4uks, for example... if you do "ps -e  | grep apt"  you'll see that apt is running.
[05:10] <hivemind> AndrewL250, what do you need?
[05:11] <kalifornia909> cafuego im lost on that one
[05:11] <gonnaeatthat> andrew http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:11] <baggito> ok thanks
[05:11] <gonnaeatthat> has tons of info
[05:11] <gonnaeatthat> for different file types
[05:11] <cafuego> kalifornia909: They all run as layers on top of one another
[05:11] <hendrixski> Pi4uks, just turn off synaptic, or close whichever terminal you ran it in before... and it should work :-)
[05:11] <kalifornia909> wat is the volume group and volume
[05:11] <AndrewL250> hivemind: I want to install thunderbird 2.0
[05:11] <hendrixski> Pi4uks, if not... the log out and log back in (don't reboot, just log out and in) and apt- should work again
[05:11] <vic2> guys, im about to install XGL/Beryl and i wanna ask for a tutorial. I am on a ATI RADEON 9200 SE 128 MB VID card, and is it ok if i use this tutorial?? link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399913&highlight=feisty+ati+beryl
[05:12] <eck> kalifornia909: have you read any of the lvm documentation? lvm is somewhat complex, so you might want to start there
[05:12] <kalifornia909> eck thank you
[05:12] <hivemind> AndrewL250, Feisty/7.04?
[05:12] <Electricity> ............
[05:12] <baggito> and can i see somehow how much disk-space applications are taking up. preferably finding the biggest install sizes?
[05:12] <xtknight> i dnot think i even had to mess with LVM
[05:12] <kalifornia909> why couldnt raid be simple lol
[05:12] <xtknight> :]
[05:12] <john> I have a problem with my system, it wont update...
[05:12] <hendrixski> vic2, based on my experience with ATI, I would look at 3 manuals, and make sure you follow the steps on each of them that the others leave out
[05:12] <AndrewL250> yes
[05:12] <eck> xtknight: consider yourself lucky ;-)
[05:12] <mneptok> kalifornia909: for the same reason flying a commercial airliner can't be simple.
[05:13] <john> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[05:13] <john> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[05:13] <john> 'E:The package vmware-server needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:13] <xtknight> eck, eh?  do you have to use LVM with software raid?  i had options sometihng like LVM -or- RAID at the alternate cd and i chose raid.
[05:13] <julian> is there a way to bypass entering my password everytime i run synaptic
[05:13] <vic2> hendrixski: what are the other 2 tutoials?
[05:13] <hendrixski> vic2, if you go to ubuntuforums, there's a thread "how you got your ati to work" or something... it's a sticky... I reomment id
[05:13] <vic2> ok
[05:13] <hivemind> Well, the repo's only have it at <IP_ADDRESS>, so you'll want to get the files from mozilla themselves
[05:13] <Pelo> vic2,  have you tried just enabling  the desktop effects first ?  before you mess with beryl ?
[05:13] <qsheets> I cant view the files on my desktop or through File Manager...could someone please advise me on what to do?
[05:14] <vic2> Pelo: yes , but i wanna make it l00k cooL
[05:14] <vic2> :D
[05:14] <hendrixski> vic2, the two tutorials on that thread....I can send you a link if you'd like?
[05:14] <cafuego> xtknight: Normally you'd put lvm on top of the raid device.
[05:14] <XP1> I can't install Ubuntu onto my IBM 760XL laptop. I downloaded the normal and alternate version. The normal version just shows black screen when I select install and the alternate version annoys me with corruption errors.
[05:14] <xtknight> cafuego, really?
[05:14] <cafuego> xtknight: yeh
[05:14] <xtknight> cafuego, i just have /dev/md0 and /dev/md1
[05:14] <hendrixski> vic2, actually... there's like 100 tutorials on that thread, and people say which ones worked for them which ones didn't
[05:14] <BKisME> Thanks for helping me update Java, but may I ask why it wasn't update and sent along with the 7.04 update? or why isn't it in the update manager?
[05:14] <mneptok> XP1: burn at the slowest speed possible
[05:14] <xtknight> qsheets, files that appear on a "ls -al ~/Desktop" dont show up in nautlius?
[05:14] <AndrewL250> hivemind: but I don't know what to do with the compressed dir.
[05:14] <Pelo> qsheets,  nautilus won't show you the volumes that are mounted to /media and which appear on hyour desktop,  just the files
[05:14] <cafuego> xtknight: So that if a device fails, the volume stays intact (with lvm only you would lose data)
[05:14] <vic2> hendrixski: that would be great, senf over private message if u want
[05:15] <cafuego> xtknight: Well, this assumes raid1 or higher.
[05:15] <eck> xtknight: i have used lvm on top of software raid (you can do one without the other though)
[05:15] <xtknight> cafuego, i'm using raid0
[05:15] <hivemind> AndrewL250, Gimme a sec
[05:15] <rukuartic> So has anyone else noticed that Gaim/Pigdin is really buggy?
[05:15] <hivemind> I'm guessing it's source, so you need to compile
[05:15] <xtknight> rukuartic, not relaly..i use it every day
[05:15] <cafuego> xtknight: Yeah, if you have raid0, you're better off using lvm only. Thatw ay at least you keep half your data when a disk fails.
[05:15] <eck> rukuartic: how do you mean?
[05:15] <hendrixski> vic2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221320&highlight=post+ati   that's the definitive guide to which guides work for what setup
[05:15] <oldude67> whats the easiest way to add repositories????
[05:15] <xtknight> cafuego, lvm only?  hrmm odd... well i'm using mdadm, i believe they call that mdraid?  and what is this dmraid thing?  (md/dm?)
[05:15] <XP1> mneptok: I burned with Nero and Alcohol 120%, first try was lowest and second try was highest. I also tried different media. I verified in my other computer and was 100% fine. I then verified on the IBM laptop, but it says file corruption.
[05:16] <john_> hey, can anyone really quickly give me the format for mounting ntfs?  i dont have access to a web browser ATM.....
[05:16] <qsheets> xtknight, Pelo: I click on Places > Home Folder and nothing pops up
[05:16] <vic2> I WISH I HAD A GEFORCE!
[05:16] <xtknight> qsheets, nothing at all?
[05:16] <qsheets> nothing
[05:16] <hendrixski> vic2, don't we all
[05:16] <john_> i know its mount /dev/sdaX /media/winX...then what
[05:16] <xtknight> qsheets, nautilus opens but you dont see files?  or nautiluis doesnt open?
[05:16] <qsheets> nothing opens
[05:16] <gumjo> hi, how do I make Totem use gst-ffmpeg instead of xine/gstreamer
[05:16] <xtknight> qsheets, press alt f2.  type nautilus.
[05:16] <rukuartic> xtknight, eck: The gui doesn't look right... graphical errors etc. It currently says "Waiting for network connection" although I'm connected, and sometimes when I start it, GAIM doesn't connect until I ctrl+a, deselect my account, and reselect it
[05:16] <xtknight> qsheets, what hapens?
[05:16] <cafuego> xtknight: dmraid is device-mapper, a way of using crappy on-board raid chips after having installed windows - and also a way of using encrypted filesystems these days I believe.
[05:16] <xtknight> rukuartic, weird maybe it's a dependency problem.  using gaim from repositopries?
[05:17] <dynoweb> does anyone know how to turn on the desktop cube on ubuntu 7.04?
[05:17] <zaxone> hi everylinux guy :)
[05:17] <qsheets> xtknight nothing
[05:17] <john_> anyone? :(
[05:17] <rukuartic> xtknight: Yea
[05:17] <Amqui> anyone here can help me with gp2x ?
[05:17] <eck> rukuartic: the network thing is a result of gaim asking NM whether ornot you are online
[05:17] <xtknight> qsheets, can you open a "gnome-terminal"
[05:17] <XP1> It's an Intel Pentium MMX 166 MHz CPU with 64MB memory
[05:17] <vashypooh> does anyone know how to fix this error: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[05:17] <vashypooh> .: 2: Can't open /etc/X11/imwheel/startup.conf
[05:17] <xtknight> rukuartic, odd i have no issues with feisty's gaim
[05:17] <qsheets> nothing yeah
[05:17] <hendrixski> dynoweb, it's called Beryl... there are plenty of well written manuals :-)
[05:17] <rukuartic> xtknight, eck: dpkg says I'm running 2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu4 is that what you're running?
[05:17] <xtknight> qsheets, so you cant even get a terminal?  try starting xterm
[05:17] <qsheets> xtknight yeah
[05:17] <eck> rukuartic: tbh, that is the only issue i have ever had with gaim, and i have used it for a long time
[05:18] <xtknight> rukuartic,  1:2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu4
[05:18] <qsheets> i can open a term
[05:18] <scales11> hey can i install beryl if i cannot get the desktop effects working?
[05:18] <xtknight> qsheets, ok type "nautilus" under the xterm
[05:18] <xtknight> qsheets, then what?
[05:18] <rukuartic> thats weird...
[05:18] <XP1> Ok, I see the shell, it says: can't access tty: job control turned off
[05:18] <qsheets> xtknight nothing
[05:18] <xtknight> rukuartic, so yeah the same version.  1: is just some prefix
[05:18] <xtknight> qsheets, no errors?
[05:18] <qsheets> nope
[05:18] <Pelo> qsheets,  did you mount your /home folder to a different partition ?
[05:18] <dynoweb> i still dont know how to do it ... if someone would tell me step by step it would be so much easier
[05:18] <KL2CR> Can someone give me pointers on getting a Intel Wireless 2915 device on my laptop working...?
[05:18] <qsheets> Pelo: no
[05:18] <rukuartic> xtknight: I figured :P Hum thats really weird.
[05:19] <Gat0rvean> how difficult is it to install wine, and get Steam apps running?
[05:19] <LordLimecat> hey, can anyone really quickly give me the mount command for mounting ntfs?  i dont have access to a web browser ATM, and need the opts
[05:19] <rukuartic> Gat0rvean: How much do you not want to use Windows?
[05:19] <dennister> hi ppl...am having some trouble with my new feisty installation: since ktorrent was crashing a lot even with feisty, i thought i'd give azureus another try...but i haven't even been able to configure it yet, and it wants to crash the second the configuration wizard shows itself...seems to be a problem with libglibjini, part of sun java 5, the jre...any ideas how to fix this people?
[05:19] <dougb> !jre
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <Pelo> !wifi > KL2CR check your pm window
[05:19] <dougb> !java
[05:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:19] <xtknight> qsheets, type "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nautilus gnome-terminal"
[05:19] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: mount -t ntfs /dev/your_drive /folder/location
[05:19] <Gat0rvean> rukuartic, I threw away my XP cd's three weeks ago
[05:19] <qsheets> I can't even see the files on my desktop
[05:19] <blah> anyone here know how to take a 32 bit rpm and conver it with alien on an amd64 without getting the amd64 architecture doesn't appear in the package's list error?
[05:19] <LordLimecat> rukuartic: arent there opts needed for non sudo access?
[05:19] <Pelo> Gat0rvean,  sudo apt-get intall wine    and you can ask the ppl in #winehq for help with steam
[05:19] <cycom> Is there a way to make my play button on my laptop also launch my music player?
[05:20] <xtknight> blah, convert it to .deb.  then install the deb with sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture <file.deb>
[05:20] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: Hmm... You got me there :( I just know that does it :P
[05:20] <AndrewL250> Another noob question: are they any video conferencing software that is also capable with windows.
[05:20] <rukuartic> Gat0rvean: Meh. I've had no luck gaming in linux.
[05:20] <eck> cycom: i believe you can set it in keyboard shortcuts
[05:20] <rukuartic> Gat0rvean: Look around on google for "Run steam linux" or somethin'
[05:20] <LordLimecat> rukuartic: i knew that part, but whenever i did it with the -opts utf8,XXXXXX (dont know the last part) it doesnt allow read/write, or non-sudo
[05:20] <eck> AndrewL250: ekiga, but it h.323 only
[05:20] <dennister> i did install the sun java 6 properly already...java apps like speed tests on the web do work...it only started giving me problems since i started to configure azureus
[05:20] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: Oh hold on, let me get it from my /etc/fstab
[05:21] <LordLimecat> thankee :)
[05:21] <Intertricity> Anyone know how I can access tty6 from an pts terminal? cat /dev/pts/0 > /dev/tty6 doesn't work very well
[05:21] <Intertricity> I can't get it to return
[05:21] <AndrewL250> eck: thanks
[05:21] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[05:21] <Pelo> dennister,   you an try using  utorrent running on wine it works very well for me and several other ppl
[05:21] <Gat0rvean> Pelo, will do, by the way, I fixed the resolution problem (1600x1050) by doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and adding the nvidia drivers and resolution through there, just in case it comes up again
[05:21] <ubuntu__> feisty 7.04 is there anyway to install onto my raid 0 config?  I am using NVRAID.  Please help I am on the live cd trying to install now.
[05:21] <cycom> eck: I can make play do one thing, but can I make it launch AND do play pause if it's  open?
[05:21] <LordLimecat> rukuartic: thats it--its umask=777 :D
[05:21] <LordLimecat> thanks
[05:21] <qsheets> xtknight: didn't help
[05:21] <Pelo> Gat0rvean, ok I,ll keep it in mind
[05:21] <eck> cycom: afaik you can't
[05:21] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: I think umask is for creating files...
[05:21] <cycom> bummer.
[05:21] <dennister> great...then i need wine...might as well use bitlord then
[05:21] <LordLimecat> umask is for permissions IIRC
[05:21] <wastrel> umask is for creating files
[05:22] <xtknight> qsheets, hmm.  nautilus and gnome apps are acting weird then?  is that it?  does firefox work?
[05:22] <xtknight> qsheets, did this just start happening?
[05:22] <wastrel> it defines the default permissions for new files
[05:22] <qsheets> yes
[05:22] <LordLimecat> rukuartic: is it -opts defaul,nls=utf8..... or no -opts
[05:22] <xtknight> qsheets, have you tried logging out?
[05:22] <qsheets> yeah
[05:22] <kaotix> okay, I cant get my sound working.. anyone feel like helping me?
[05:22] <eck> cycom: you might be able to bind it to some weird thing like alt + music button
[05:22] <Pelo> dennister,  if you are running on gnome  deluge torrent is nice to
[05:22] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: Hold on a sec... "man mount"
[05:22] <cycom> At least I got my bluetooth remote working.
[05:22] <LordLimecat> alright
[05:22] <LordLimecat> :D
[05:22] <ubuntu__> No one here is a raid array?
[05:22] <eck> dennister: rtorrent is also good, if you are into the curses thing
[05:22] <cycom> eck: I have a media direct button
[05:22] <AndrewL250> hivemind: figure it out?
[05:22] <cycom> eck: See, the thing is, I want to hit play on my remote and have it launch the media player.
[05:22] <dennister> i actually prefer kubuntu here...but that channel is uncharacteristicly quiet right now
[05:22] <xtknight> qsheets, yes, you have tried logging out
[05:22] <xtknight> ?
[05:23] <vic2> kk guys, closest thing to my ati 9200 was a 9550, would that be close enough???
[05:23] <aliasd> i got an unformatted external hdd ()usb) here that is being detected by hal, but a /dev/sd* node is not being created... any help?
[05:23] <hivemind> AndrewL250, Nope
[05:23] <qsheets> xtknight: yes
[05:23] <eck> cycom: yeah, you are probably out of luck
[05:23] <rukuartic> LordLimecat:
[05:23] <hivemind> AndrewL250, You'll need to get someone more experienced.
[05:23] <xtknight> qsheets, do you have any free space on / and /home?
[05:23] <xtknight> qsheets, df -h
[05:23] <hivemind> Sorry =<
[05:23] <cycom> eck: Oh well. Media Direct button for the win!
[05:23] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: mount -t ntfs -o defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 /dev/blah /place
[05:23] <vic2> kk guys, closest thing to my ati 9200 was a 9550, would that be close enoughfor the tutorial on installing xgl ?
[05:24] <qsheets> xtknight: Plenty of space
[05:24] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: You want it exactly like that
[05:24] <xtknight> qsheets, "ldd `which gnome-terminal`"
[05:24] <iNToIT> yo
[05:24] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: gid=46 means its part of plugdev
[05:24] <xtknight> qsheets, let me know if that command reports any missing libraries
[05:24] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: You should be part of plugdev, which gives you read/write access
[05:24] <AndrewL250> ok
[05:24] <AndrewL250> thanks
[05:24] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: umask pertains to files being created, and is not intuitive at all, not quite the same as chmod.
[05:25] <xtknight> qsheets, "ldd `which gnome-terminal` | grep found"
[05:25] <xtknight> qsheets, if that returns anything, something is wrong
[05:25] <FordPrefect> has anyone gotten amdcccle working?
[05:25] <DarkED> hi, i'm getting a problem when trying to apt-get update
[05:25] <DarkED> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18050/
[05:25] <FordPrefect> I get it to see my second monitor (for instancE)
[05:25] <eck> rukuartic: umask = permissions on ntfs, i think
[05:25] <FordPrefect> and tell me comforing things
[05:25] <xtknight> umask is the opposite of regular octal permissions
[05:25] <rukuartic> eck: I thought it pertained to perms on new files
[05:25] <qsheets> xtknight: didn't return anything
[05:25] <FordPrefect> but it doesn't actually have any effect (other than it can change the resolution)
[05:25] <eck> rukuartic: right, but ntfs doesn't support per-file permissions
[05:25] <LordLimecat> rukuartic: er....whats command for group changes
[05:25] <xtknight> it'a a mask.  so 7777 is 0000 in umask, and 7755 is 0022 in umask
[05:25] <iNToIT> dunno
[05:26] <AndrewL250> Does anyone know how to install the new thunderbird?
[05:26] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:26] <xtknight> qsheets, alright.  type gnome-terminal, what happens?  any errors at all?
[05:26] <eck> rukuartic: so mount just uses umask as the permissions for the whole volume if it is a FS that doesn't support regular permissions on files
[05:26] <LordLimecat> xtknight: arrrgh thats why i have no priveleges -_-
[05:26] <LordLimecat> xtknight: thanks
[05:26] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: if you want to be part of plugdev
[05:26] <netwkrtot> btween u & me
[05:26] <xtknight> qsheets, does it knock you back to a prompt or does it try to hold your input as if gnome-terminal was running? or does it say command not found?  describe as best you can what happens when you type "gnome-terminal"
[05:26] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: sudo adduser username plugdev
[05:26] <qsheets> xtknight: terminal runs fine...it's just the file browser
[05:26] <gumjo> when I try to burn in GnomeBaker this is what I get (Error trying to open /dev/hdc exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[05:26] <CapriSkye> anyone know the command to show who has loggin to a server?
[05:26] <xtknight> qsheets, oh
[05:26] <gumjo> what's wrong?
[05:26] <FordPrefect> I evne tried running it sudo
[05:26] <xtknight> qsheets, so just nautilus.  okay
[05:27] <FordPrefect> but that did nothing
[05:27] <rukuartic> CapriSkye: You mean who's currently online? "who"
[05:27] <dennister> well, at least wine seems to be easier to install with feisty :) is downloading
[05:27] <scales11> quick question, anyone know if i can install beryl if i am unable to get the desktop effects to work?
[05:27] <CapriSkye> not who, but the past users who has been loggin
[05:27] <scales11> i get a composite error
[05:27] <rukuartic> scales11: You can certainly install it, but I'm not sure if you will be able to run it.
[05:27] <xtknight> qsheets, sudo dpkg --force-all --purge nautilus nautilus-data nautilus-dbg nautilus-gksu nautilus-sendto nautilus-cd-burner
[05:27] <scales11> well if i install it i would like it to run!
[05:27] <LordLimecat> rukuartic: is by default :)  feisty is so....intuitive :D
[05:27] <scales11> :)
[05:27] <xtknight> qsheets, after that, "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:27] <Electricity> Feisty is so....Feisty...
[05:28] <Valjean25> hola
[05:28] <vic2> guys, what is a good windows messenger for ubuntu???
[05:28] <dennister> Madpilot: :)
[05:28] <xtknight> Electricity, that was not very fawny
[05:28] <Madpilot> hi dennister
[05:28] <rukuartic> I've actually had a lot of problems with feisty D: Gaim is silly, and some times the power button don't work
[05:28] <Electricity> xtknight: Why would I care is you don't think it was "fawny"?
[05:28] <gumjo> why wont gnomebaker burn cds?
[05:28] <vic2> guys, what is a good windows messenger for ubuntu???
[05:28] <Pi4uks> xtknight: sory, im a beginner in linux... > how to make unrar-free to work? i installed it with sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[05:28] <rukuartic> gumjo: Thats like saying, "Why won't my car start?" there could be a lot of problems.
[05:28] <xtknight> Electricity, miss the pun?  :-(
[05:28] <xtknight> :P
[05:29] <rukuartic> vic2: Gnome?
[05:29] <Electricity> vic2: GAIM?
[05:29] <st3v3dnd> hey guys, does anyone know of a repository where I can find the xmms gnome applet? It seems like it was removed when I upgraded to feisty
[05:29] <gumjo> Error trying to open /dev/hdc exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. <---This is the error I get
[05:29] <vic2> lol gaim or gnome?
[05:29] <xtknight> Pi4uks, use "unrar x archive.rar"
[05:29] <rukuartic> st3v3dnd: I don't think so, it should still be in there.
[05:29] <rukuartic> gumjo: open up a terminal, type "lsof | grep /dev/hdc"
[05:29] <dennister> i haven't had that many problems with feisty, but i have had them with some of the non-k/ubuntu apps...but then again some of them were problematic with edgy, too
[05:29] <eck> gumjo: that's strange, try running ruser on the device node
[05:29] <idefixx> CapriSkye: there is no such command afaik but you can grep that info out of /var/log/auth.log and there a logcheck scripts that i.e. mail this stuff to you.
[05:29] <eck> s/ruser/fuser/
[05:30] <CapriSkye> idefixx thanks
[05:30] <Electricity> Gawsh.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:30] <xtknight> Pi4uks, sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[05:30] <CapriSkye> i know there's history command, but anyway to see who ran them?
[05:30] <vic2> !repeat vic2
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat vic2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <Pi4uks> xtknight: unrar-free is already the newest version.
[05:31] <vic2> !repeat | vic2
[05:31] <eck> CapriSkye: the history is just read straight from ~/.bash_history
[05:31] <gumjo> I get another error: wodim: Drive does not support TAO recording. wodim: Illegal write mode for this drive.
[05:31] <st3v3dnd> rukuartic: I think it was xmms-gnome, or xmms-panel or something, but it's definitely not there in feisty. Any idea what the name might be if they changed it?
[05:31] <vic2> anybody know?
[05:31] <xtknight> Pi4uks, odd
[05:31] <rukuartic> st3v3dnd: Try this, "apt-cache search xmms"
[05:31] <qsheets> xtknight: does x need to be restarted
[05:31] <xtknight> Pi4uks, type "dpkg -L unrar-free | grep unrar"
[05:31] <CapriSkye> i know, but anything similar to that but also show which user ran the command?
[05:32] <xtknight> qsheets, type nautilus in the terminal and see what hapepns
[05:32] <eck> CapriSkye: ? it will be your current user
[05:32] <rukuartic> I love how everyone uses terminals and nobody uses the package manager
[05:32] <jake__> hey, I'm an ubuntu, and linux in general noob. I need some help getting wide screen set up, and I can't find anything useful to me on the net...
[05:32] <Bakefy> is there something wrong with amarok for 7.04?
[05:32] <sl8406> .
[05:32] <qsheets> xtknight: nothing
[05:32] <rukuartic> jake__: Welcome to 'buntu! :3
[05:32] <jake__> thanks
[05:32] <CapriSkye> ok ok i got it now, thanks guys
[05:32] <xtknight> qsheets, hmm, not sure what's going on.  i suppose you could try rebooting.
[05:32] <eck> rukuartic: dpkg is the package manager :-)
[05:33] <gumjo> can I burn ISO images with nautilus burner?
[05:33] <rukuartic> eck: I know :P Its just a bunch of people went to the trouble of making synaptic, and nobody uses it.
[05:33] <Xenguy> gumjo: I think so
[05:33] <zaxone> !shithead
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shithead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Xenguy> gumjo: but don't ask me how :-)
[05:33] <Electricity> !botabuse | zaxone
[05:33] <rukuartic> jake__: Have you tried setting it in System>Preferences>Screen Resolution?
[05:33] <ubotu> zaxone: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:33] <qsheets> xtknight: It started when I mysteriously hit my keyboard while cleaning all of the crap out of it
[05:33] <Pi4uks> xtknight: and? there is a list of files eg: /usr/share/doc/unrar-free, /usr/share/doc/unrar-free/AUTHORS....
[05:34] <xtknight> Pi4uks, any binaries named unrar listed?
[05:34] <gumjo> Thought so, but I only see the option to make a data disc
[05:34] <Electricity> ?
[05:34] <zizu> who can help my to change my volume permissions
[05:34] <idefixx> rukuartic: maybe if synaptic would work like aptituide does someone could actually use it ^
[05:34] <vashypooh> can anyone help me try to resolve this gdm issue, it is driving me nuts.
[05:34] <vashypooh> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[05:34] <vashypooh> .: 2: Can't open /etc/X11/imwheel/startup.conf
[05:34] <Pi4uks> xtknight: /usr/share/man/man1/unrar-free.1.gz
[05:34] <Bakefy> its not normal that I can't uninstall amarok right?
[05:34] <J-_> shoot wrong channel
[05:34] <xtknight> Pi4uks, sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:34] <rukuartic> idefixx: :P We should poke dev about it... it'd make it easier for people who don't know how to use command lines. Grep!? Whats that?
[05:34] <phobiac> Does anyone have experience with setting up a conquest server?
[05:35] <vashypooh> can anyone try to help me? I cannot get into gnome unless i use failsafe
[05:35] <vertana> Good evening, all!
[05:35] <rukuartic> vertana: Hey :3
[05:35] <idefixx> rukuartic: comwhatline... never heard of it ;)
[05:35] <LordLimecat> rukuartic: ntfs rw support is SUPPOSED to be built into feisty, right?
[05:35] <vertana> What is the error it is giving you?
[05:35] <xtknight> LordLimecat, false
[05:35] <LordLimecat> oh!
[05:35] <xtknight> !ntfs03g
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs03g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <phobiac> I'm trying to run the conquestd deamon as root, but root doesn't recognize the command. However as my normal user, the command is recognized but doesn't have the permissions.
[05:35] <xtknight> !ntfs-3g
[05:35] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:35] <xtknight> still need that
[05:35] <wastrel> vashypooh:  open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for that filename in there
[05:35] <eck> rukuartic: i'm sure people would love it if synaptic had regex support ;-)
[05:35] <rukuartic> LordLimecat: I have no idea... NTFS support is terrible from what I understand...
[05:35] <wastrel> vashypooh:  then comment it out
[05:35] <qsheets> brb
[05:35] <xtknight> not even the partial kernel ntfs write support is there in feisty , yet.
[05:35] <vertana> @vashy what is the error?  We need a little more info to help you.
[05:35] <Electricity> Someone help me install Java...
[05:36] <xtknight> Electricity, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[05:36] <vertana> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[05:36] <aoirthoir> xtknight, is ntfs write support stable though?
[05:36] <rukuartic> eck: Haha... I can see it now. "Grandma, all you need to do is dpkg -l | grep [0-9] \s*.*-dev and then compile it."
[05:36] <jake__> rukuartic: only have normal screen res options
[05:36] <xtknight> aoirthoir, via ntfs-3g, it's claimed to be stable
[05:36] <gumjo> My dvd drive wont eject...
[05:36] <LordLimecat> xtknight: is fuse the same as ntfs-3g?
[05:36] <rukuartic> jake__: Try this... I'm not entirely sure that it will work but let me give it a shot.
[05:36] <vertana> At this point it is stable well enough.  If you run a business I wouldn't stake my business on it.
[05:36] <phobiac> ntfs-3g is stable as far as I've used it.
[05:36] <aoirthoir> xtknight, any idea how old ntfs-3g is?
[05:36] <xtknight> LordLimecat, no, FUSE (File system under user space) is the framework upon which ntfs-3g runs
[05:36] <vashypooh> wastrel, It is not referenced once in Xorg.conf
[05:36] <Pi4uks> xtknight: Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. is only available from another source
[05:37] <aoirthoir> phobiac, ok gotcha. I'd still make sure I had backups of the data:)
[05:37] <xtknight> aoirthoir,  i wouldn't say as stable as , say, ext3 write support though.
[05:37] <vashypooh> wastrel, it is refrenced somewhere else and I can not find where
[05:37] <nalioth> !guidelines | zaxone
[05:37] <xtknight> aoirthoir, not more than a year old i believe?
[05:37] <ubotu> zaxone: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:37] <chamunks> anyone in here fairly well experienced with xdmcp?
[05:37] <xtknight> Pi4uks, odd.  sorry, i dont use dapper
[05:37] <LordLimecat> xtknight: ah, makes sense.....ntfs-config installed it....but there must have been a rumor going around, because i had heard that "the next version of ubuntu has built in ntfs rw support"
[05:37] <LordLimecat> is that for gutsy?
[05:37] <Bakefy> Everytime I try to play a song in amarok it freezes before it even loads the playlist to 100%
[05:37] <Pi4uks> xtknight: thanks
[05:37] <vertana> www.rarlabs.com, then download the latest for unix and then unzip the "rar" and "unrar" commands into /usr/bin/
[05:37] <xtknight> LordLimecat, perhaps gutsy
[05:37] <zeroday> how do i find a freenode staffer?
[05:37] <Electricity> zeroday: Try #tapthru
[05:37] <linuxor> Hi, I've installed beryl on my UBUNTU7.04 and got error beryl: No composite extension, I've Ati x1400 installed. Please how to do?
[05:37] <phobiac> I've used it to move around in excess of 10GB of files with no problems, so I think it can handle most abuse.
[05:38] <aoirthoir> xtknight, ok gotcha. I will avoid it mostly if I can.
[05:38] <LordLimecat> xtknight: ah, thanks....last question, reboot needed for ntfs-3g to load?
[05:38] <rukuartic> jake__: I think you can try this.
[05:38] <conn> hi, I'm using apt-cacher to keep my systems updated in a central location. It's working fine, but I'm wondering if it's possible to make apt-get detect if the host (apt-cacher proxy) is offline, and if it is, to make a direct connection instead of trying unsuccessfully to connect to the proxy?
[05:38] <zeroday> Electricity: thanks
[05:38] <phobiac> linuxor: Do you have fglrx?
[05:38] <xtknight> LordLimecat, nope
[05:38] <[Flux] > so i figured out my Java problems are because im running 64 bit
[05:38] <[Flux] > =/
[05:38] <Electricity> zeroday: No problem.
[05:38] <rukuartic> jake__: press alt+f2 and type "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[05:38] <linuxor> phobiac : yeah
[05:38] <vertana> gedit is Xorg only.
[05:38] <aoirthoir> zeroday, #freenode
[05:38] <vertana> You need to use nano or vi to edit in terminal.
[05:38] <xtknight> ntfs is definitely a filesystem to avoid unless you mus tuse it
[05:38] <wastrel> vashypooh:  hat file lives in the package   imwheel
[05:38] <vertana> (Those are the popular ones anyway)
[05:38] <gustavo> gpi
[05:38] <rukuartic> vertana: Yeah, I know. We're editing in a gui :P
[05:38] <ubuntu__> I installed dmraid, can someone tell me if I can go ahead and run the ubuntu installer?  It shows that I have 160gb array, I have to 80gb hdds.  Please help.
[05:38] <wastrel> vashypooh:  install or reinstall  imwheel  maybe ?
[05:38] <phobiac> linuxor: Check the beryl wiki
[05:39] <vashypooh> yes, I uninstallted imwheel
[05:39] <vertana> @rukuartic Oh ok, I thought you were doing a rescue edit, sorry :D
[05:39] <chamunks> anyone know what happens after i disconnect from a computer that im connected to via xdmcp does it keep the programs running or does it totally log out?
[05:39] <rukuartic> vertana: Hee not that silly. :P
[05:39] <jake__> rukuartic: ok...
[05:39] <linuxor> phobiac : ok, thx
[05:39] <rukuartic> jake__: Did a text editor show up?
[05:39] <vashypooh> wastrel, i do not need the program, i do not want the program installed. It was to help 5 button mouse wheel, but not nessecary
[05:39] <wastrel> vashypooh:  did use --purge?
[05:39] <vashypooh> no
[05:39] <wastrel> maybe reinstall and then uninstall again with --purge
[05:39] <vashypooh> wastrel, how do i do that
[05:39] <wastrel> "dunno"
[05:39] <harry_> I'm having trouble accessing the manuals for KDE programs I am running in GNOME.
[05:39] <qsheets> thanks xtknight
[05:39] <jake__> yeah, I've played around in xorg.conf a bit...
[05:40] <qsheets> it worked
[05:40] <wastrel> vashypooh:  apt-get remove --purge imwheel
[05:40] <xtknight> qsheets, rebooting?
[05:40] <jake__> but I hadn't changed anything
[05:40] <qsheets> yup
[05:40] <chamunks> xtknight, thanks again for the raid help the other night that was a total life saver
[05:40] <xtknight> qsheets, first time you tried that?
[05:40] <vertana> remove will delete the files and keep all the previous configurations, purge will delete the config files also.
[05:40] <xtknight> qsheets, (with regards to this problem
[05:40] <vashypooh> wastrel, i shall attempt that
[05:40] <rukuartic> jake__: Right at the bottom you should see something like "SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x768" endsection or something like that...
[05:40] <qsheets> xtknight: second
[05:40] <xtknight> chamunks, oh yeah i remember that...haha glad i covered your rear end ;)
[05:40] <rukuartic> jake__: Have you tried adding something inside there?
[05:40] <jake__> not there
[05:41] <nica_myute_aiu_n> haaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:41] <chamunks> xtknight, my palms were sweating i was so stressed over that lol
[05:41] <xtknight> qsheets, ah so perhaps the purge forceall, et al fixed it
[05:41] <vashypooh> restarting to try to login
[05:41] <xtknight> chamunks, that happens to me when i do anything :p
[05:41] <jake__> ok, I found the section
[05:41] <qsheets> xtknight: Yeah...do you also know how to change the boot-up resolution
[05:41] <qsheets> ???
[05:41] <rukuartic> jake__: Try adding another one between the last EndSubSection and EndSectoin
[05:41] <mobutu> how do i make mouse work when a Switch User in gnome ?
[05:41] <xtknight> qsheets, such as usplash?
[05:41] <vashypooh> wastrel, Thank you! --purge worked
[05:42] <wastrel> yay!
[05:42] <jake__> what should I add?
[05:42] <Electricity> Letterman is an idiot..
[05:42] <chamunks> xtknight, heh no doubt
[05:42] <qsheets> xtknight: ???
[05:42] <vashypooh> like 3 hours to find out --purge fixes my stuff
[05:42] <vashypooh> lol
[05:42] <rukuartic> jake__: Can you msg me?
[05:42] <xtknight> qsheets, bootup as in Xorg?
[05:42] <xtknight> qsheets, desktop res after login?
[05:42] <barnball> question...just upgraded to fiesty from edgy, and now youtube vids dont show up in firefox
[05:42] <barnball> any ideas?
[05:42] <qsheets> xtknight: whatever shows the Ubuntu logo and the modules loading in b4 login
[05:42] <zeroday> !codecs | barnball
[05:42] <xtknight> barnball, grab flash9
[05:43] <xtknight> qsheets, ah so usplash..you want that a higher res?
[05:43] <jake__> I'm not sure how in xchat
[05:43] <xtknight> qsheets, im not sure, actually.
[05:43] <rukuartic> jake__: try "/msg rukuartic Hi"
[05:43] <qsheets> or lower?
[05:43] <eck> i think usplash must be 640x480
[05:43] <barnball> k, silly question, it lost it in the upgrade then? worked before
[05:43] <diego> hi, i've just installed ubuntu but when i want to use a theme, like the human theme i get an error
[05:43] <xtknight> my usplash seems to be 1680x1050
[05:43] <zeroday> barnball: yeah
[05:43] <diego> anyone know what is causing that?
[05:43] <zeroday> diego: what error?
[05:43] <chamunks> im trying to use another computer on my network to rip videos stored on a central computer into dvd format from avi, my question is is this possible to pull the file off the central pc convert it and save it over the network back to the central computer?
[05:43] <barnball> k, will do
[05:43] <eck> yeah, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[05:44] <qsheets> xtknight: mine needs to be at max. 1440x900
[05:44] <rukuartic> jake__: Here. Let me get a link for you
[05:44] <Electricity> xtknight: I did that...And it still isn't working...
[05:44] <kahrytan> Hello
[05:44] <Rio79> im trying to have a twinview set up where one screen is a monitor, and another is my tv by following the how-to linked here.  [http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html]   do you guys know what my "SecondMonitorHorizSync" be??
[05:44] <diego> zeroday: Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager.
[05:44] <xtknight> qsheets, not sure
[05:44] <eck> hmm, i guess that was from dapper, might be different now
[05:44] <xtknight> Electricity, 'not working' isnt specific enough... the plugin is not wroking in firefox?
[05:44] <Electricity> Nope
[05:44] <zeroday> diego: dunno sorry
[05:45] <xtknight> Electricity, does java show under "about:plugins" ?
[05:45] <Electricity> I dunno
[05:45] <Electricity> How do I find out?
[05:45] <Rio79> ... since my set up has a tv, instead of a monitor
[05:45] <diego> zeroday: i even cant use the themes from the live cd...
[05:45] <junmin> is there a keyboard shortcut for changing the keyboard layout??
[05:45] <diego> zeroday: this is in amd64 though
[05:45] <xtknight> Electricity, start firefox and type "about:plugins" in the address bar
[05:45] <Xenguy> you just bought yourself...
[05:45] <zeroday> junmin: keyboard applet
[05:46] <Amqui> i'm not able to mount my gp2x on ubuntu... what should i do ?
[05:46] <xtknight> Electricity, if you installed JRE you also need plugin.   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[05:46] <XP1> when I start installation, i get dropped into a shell
[05:46] <junmin> zeroday, keyboard applet?? keyboard indicator in gnome??
[05:46] <chamunks> is there a network mount that ubuntu will treat like a local file?
[05:46] <rukuartic> jake__: http://rafb.net/p/Gy7kGj69.html
[05:46] <xtknight> chamunks, nfs
[05:46] <weast> I have a problem with my upgrade to Feisty.  It finished installing all the new upgrades/packages, and asked to configure a package. X is frozen: mouse moves, i can open the rightclick menu on the desktop, folders off the desktop, but nothing else. What to do?
[05:46] <diego> anyone knows what is causing that problem?
[05:46] <eck> chamunks: also samba (and fuse things)
[05:47] <weast> I could restart X, but that would end the upgrade before Cleaning Up and whatever that last step is.
[05:47] <xtknight> chamunks, or smbfs .  check out fuse also for ftp and other virtual FSes
[05:47] <chamunks> xtknight, how would i go by activating nfs
[05:47] <Xenguy> chamunks: STFW
[05:47] <xtknight> chamunks, what specifically are you trying to achieve?
[05:47] <xtknight> !stfu
[05:47] <zeroday> junmin: keyboard indicator
[05:47] <rukuartic> jake__: Once you have put in something like that, save the file. press ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the X Server, and try to change your screen resolution again.
[05:48] <zeroday> /who freenode/staff/*
[05:48] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:48] <junmin> zeroday, but i can not use a a keyboard shortcut.. i have to click for changing keyboard layout
[05:48] <rukuartic> zeroday: if you need freenode staff, /join #freenode
[05:48] <chamunks> xtknight, im trying to run this program called DeVeDe to convert my avi's to dvd player ready iso's and i want to do more than one dvd at a time so im using a second computer for this
[05:48] <zeroday> junmin: why specifically do you need a keyboard shortcut
[05:49] <junmin> zeroday, because it's more quickly...
[05:49] <xtknight> chamunks, hrm still confused about how a network mount would help?
[05:49] <diego> i wonder if this is a bug
[05:49] <eck> junmin: i'm sure you could make a keybinding that would launch a shell script to change it, you'd have to write the script yourself though
[05:49] <chamunks> xtknight, i need a network mount that DeVeDe is going to see as a local folder so i can rip from a remote source to a remote destination (in my own lan of course)
[05:49] <zeroday> junmin: look in System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:49] <rukuartic> junmin: You could try System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts, or look for something like XKeyboardConfig in the repository.
[05:49] <lussdelucia> buenas
[05:49] <diego> i rememer in gentoo i had to start dbus for gnome to be able to change themes
[05:49] <xtknight> chamunks, devede takes in a media file and outputs a DVD compatible file basically?
[05:49] <lussdelucia> buenas noches!!!!
[05:49] <xtknight> !es
[05:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:50] <barnball> k thanks, flash 9 did it...why didnt that carry over but pretty much all my other stuff did?
[05:50] <lussdelucia> adios.
[05:50] <lussdelucia> nos vemos!
[05:50] <xtknight> barnball, non-GPL
[05:50] <chamunks> xtknight, yep it wraps it up rather nicely but this second rip box doesent have the hard drive space to do the conversion locally so im hoping to use the nfs mount as the destination aswell as the source
[05:50] <barnball> oic, well thanks again, its workin now, and i feel like an idiot :-D lol jk, glad it was such a simple fix
[05:50] <weast> Ok, question about a failed upgrade: The process crashed at the end of the "Fetching and installing the upgrades" and before "Cleaning up". Haven't restarted, haven't done anything yet. How should I proceed?
[05:50] <xtknight> chamunks, ah i suppose you could do that
[05:51] <xtknight> chamunks, i dont relaly remember how to seutp nfs, and i dont have the ambition to walk you through SMB tonight :P
[05:51] <randominity> ok, this is jake
[05:51] <xtknight> chamunks, although i must say smb would be a good choice.  between linux and linux thouhg?
[05:51] <eck> chamunks: nfs is actually really easy
[05:51] <harry_> how do I, as a non-developer (read: idiot user), suggest features for ubuntu?
[05:51] <xtknight> harry_, launchpad
[05:51] <xtknight> !launchpad
[05:51] <rukuartic> randominity: Hallo
[05:51] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[05:51] <eck> chamunks: you install nfs-kernel-server, add the entries to /etc/exports and then start portmap on the client and mount it. that's basically it
[05:51] <junmin> rukuartic, zeroday thx
[05:51] <xtknight> harry_, blueprints and specifications, generally
[05:51] <Juanca> hi, can anyone help me upgrading to 7.04, the "New distribution release..." button doesn't appear. plaese
[05:51] <chamunks> xtknight, I cant say it would be super speedy but it will work
[05:51] <barnball> next silly question, my other machine also needs to be upgraded, but i haven't done it yet as i vnc into it, no monitor or anything on it...the upgrade wont affect my vnc settings on it will it?
[05:52] <rukuartic> junmin: Open up a terminal and type in these commands
[05:52] <barnball> so after i upgrade, ill still be able to remote in?
[05:52] <rukuartic> junmin: Sorry, wrong person.
[05:52] <chamunks> xtknight, thanks anywho
[05:52] <zeroday> Juanca: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:52] <rukuartic> Juanca: Open up a terminal (alt+f2, "gnome-terminal") and type in these commands
[05:52] <eck> chamunks: if you want to try out nfs it takes < 5 minutes to set it up
[05:52] <rukuartic> Juanca: "sudo apt-get update"
[05:52] <weast> Ok, question about a failed upgrade: The process crashed at the end of the "Fetching and installing the upgrades" and before "Cleaning up". Haven't restarted, haven't done anything yet. How should I proceed?
[05:52] <rukuartic> Juanca: "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[05:52] <chamunks> eck, ok ill give that a try thanks!
[05:52] <gpm> anyone here using compiz for transparency?
[05:52] <rukuartic> Juanca: Then the button should appear :)
[05:53] <diego> damn, gnome-settings-manager crashes in my system and i cant change themes, great
[05:53] <gpm> is there a way to put it in a metacity menu that you get by right-clicking on the window bar at the top or something?
[05:53] <diego> gnome-settings-daemon*
[05:53] <rukuartic> diego: Try looking around in the forums, or searching for that bug on google.
[05:53] <weast> What happens in the "Cleaning Up" phase of the dist upgrade?
[05:53] <rukuartic> diego: You might have found some new bug.
[05:53] <xtknight> weast, perhaps a wiping of /var/cache?
[05:54] <Juanca> zeroday: I get this http://pastebin.ca/462226
[05:54] <rukuartic> Juanca: You might be running Ubuntu 7.04 right now! :P
[05:54] <rukuartic> Juanca: Hold on for a moment...
[05:54] <weast> xtknight: Well, basically it completed all the upgrade steps except that one before crashing. How should I proceed?
[05:54] <Juanca> rukuartic: ok
[05:54] <zeroday> Juanca: now run update-manager
[05:54] <[Flux] > is there anyway to remove any/all changes you've made and go back to the default distro install?
[05:55] <[Flux] > without reinstalling
[05:55] <xtknight> weast, hmm well are you able to get into your new system?
[05:55] <Juanca> zeroday: Ok, no button, now?
[05:55] <rukuartic> Juanca: Are you familiar with a terminal?
[05:55] <xtknight> weast, define "crash", alsol
[05:55] <xtknight> also*
[05:55] <hiffy> any hardtimes getting azureus to work, ol' chaps?
[05:55] <chamunks> eck, so on the client i would want to install nfs-kernel-client?
[05:55] <zeroday> Juanca: can you go to system about ubuntu
[05:55] <weast> xtknight: haven't left it. Sorry, let me explain
[05:55] <harry_> so what do I do once I am at launchpad?
[05:55] <Juanca> rukuartic: familiar yes, but not an expert
[05:55] <eck> chamunks: i think you just need portmap (which i believe is installed by default)
[05:55] <[Flux] > azureus worked fine out of the box for me
[05:56] <rukuartic> Juanca: Did you try doing apt-get update, and then apt-get upgrade?
[05:56] <chamunks> eck, k thx
[05:56] <eck> chamunks: oh, i guess there's an nfs-client package
[05:56] <zeroday> Juanca: and does it say anything about fiesty in the 2nd paragraph?
[05:56] <hiffy> It stopped working a few weeks ago after an update, but i've been so swamped with exams I never bothered fixing it
[05:56] <weast> xtknight: the GUI upgrade manager crashed. gnome-panel froze.  I killed gnome-panel, and now I sit in front of my screen with nothing running (chatting on a second computer)
[05:56] <Juanca> zeroday: no it doesn't
[05:56] <eck> which probably just has portmap in it :-P
[05:56] <zeroday> Juanca: do this command sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:57] <weast> xtknight: cat /etc/issue returns "Ubuntu 7.04 /n /l"
[05:57] <chamunks> eck should i install that or is it totally unnecessary?
[05:57] <zeroday> *sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:57] <eck> chamunks: just grab it, it's a virtual package so it will install whatever you need
[05:57] <xtknight> weast, hrm i suppose i would try rebooting and hold your breath
[05:57] <xtknight> weast, worst case grab you data using the livecd.
[05:57] <weast> is that a good idea?
[05:57] <xtknight> your*
[05:57] <Juanca> zeroday, rukuartic: yes I did, this is what I get: http://pastebin.ca/462226
[05:58] <xtknight> weast, your system is already half broken it seems so i doubt it would hurt
[05:58] <chamunks> eck ponders... whats the name of the nfs-client package?
[05:58] <rukuartic> Juanca: try looking at this file: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <xtknight> weast, whatever the case your data will be there
[05:58] <blckcts> hi fellas. How can i make a shortcut on the desktop for a newly mounted HDD? (mounted on /mnt/disk3).  Thanks in advance
[05:58] <weast> xtknight: Don't see how it's broken. I just wish I knew what it does during the "Cleaning Up" phase
[05:58] <eck> chamunks: that is the name of it
[05:58] <xtknight> weast, ah im not sure
[05:58] <thegreenblob> Anyone know of a good podcatcher? Tried icepodder but didn't really like it.
[05:59] <xtknight> weast, if it doesn't boot you use the livecd and mount your root filesystem and grab your data off.  i dont know how you're going to fix it now, though.
[05:59] <xtknight> dist-upgrade is a big thing, you cant really just fix it
[05:59] <chamunks> eck, ok hmm maybe im doing something wrong brb
[05:59] <zeroday> ipodder
[05:59] <eck> chamunks: it looks like it has packages to do uid mapping and what not, which isn't strictly necessary (but you might want it anyway)
[05:59] <weast> Anyone here know what the GUI Upgrade Manager does in "Cleaning Up"?
[05:59] <[Flux] > i think im going to install the i386 version instead of this amd64 system
[05:59] <rukuartic> blckcts: This might not be the best way, but I know it works.
[05:59] <[Flux] > seems kinda boinked
[05:59] <rukuartic> blckcts: Right click the desktop and select "new launcher"
[05:59] <blckcts> yes
[05:59] <rukuartic> blckcts: Under name call it "My Hard Drive" or whatever you want to name it
[05:59] <Juanca> rukuartic: I'm looking at it, what do I search for
[06:00] <kalifornia909> raid can kma. im done. tried for a week and still nothing
[06:00] <kalifornia909> grr
[06:00] <kalifornia909> lol
[06:00] <rukuartic> blckcts: and under command write "nautilus /mnt/media3" or wherever the location is
[06:00] <rukuartic> blckcts: And then you can put up an icon
[06:00] <rukuartic> Juanca: Do you see anything in there about feisty?
[06:00] <aoirthoir> lol ekis
[06:00] <kalifornia909> can you install ubuntu on a 1 gig flash drive
[06:00] <Juanca> rukuartic: no
[06:00] <Electricity> SUREY NOT
[06:01] <xtknight> kalifornia909, yes
[06:01] <rukuartic> Juanca: What do you see? Are there things for 6.10?
[06:01] <eck> kalifornia909: not a full install, but you can do it (or put the live cd on it)
[06:01] <weast> xtknight: i
[06:01] <Celt> kalifornia909: yes, are you using a vm manager?
[06:01] <kalifornia909> eck ty
[06:01] <chamunks> eck, ok that sounds good ill check it out n get ya back if i have any more issues
[06:01] <Juanca> rukuartic: yes
[06:01] <weast> xtknight: restarting...i'll tell you how it goes
[06:01] <xtknight> weast, okay.  good luck.
[06:01] <kalifornia909> celt vm manger. virtual manager?
[06:01] <rukuartic> Juanca: Ok... This is odd.
[06:01] <eck> chamunks: sure, there are also about 1000 howtos on setting up nfs
[06:02] <dewaard> hello, I'm trying to install python profiler from multiverse, but its not working. I'm following the short and simple instructions on http://www.cherrypy.org/wiki/ProfilingOnDebian
[06:02] <blckcts> rukuartic:  Type: application?
[06:02] <Celt> kalifornia909: if you use Moka5 you can do a full ubuntu install on a 1 gig drive, I am pretty sure.
[06:02] <rukuartic> blckcts: Yes
[06:02] <Juanca> rukuartic: yes :(  I don't know why I'm having such a bad luck with Ubuntu
[06:02] <dewaard> any suggestions on how I could install this package (python-profiler)?
[06:02] <rukuartic> Juanca: Try this... replace every occurance of "edgy" with "feisty"
[06:02] <chamunks> eck ok thats kewl ill probably need some more specific stuff since what im doing seemes rather undocumented but im sure its done often enough
[06:02] <rukuartic> Juanca: apt-get update
[06:02] <kalifornia909> interesting
[06:02] <rukuartic> Juanca: and then apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:02] <weast> xtknight: looking good. thanks
[06:03] <rever> Hi what are the differences between prelink and preload? Is there any and can you have both installed an running?
[06:03] <Kewlb> I am attempting to install Ubuntu Server version on a new AMD64 dual-core machine. I setup hardware RAID0 (striping), but ubuntu is not recognizing the logical drive -- it is seeing both physical drives in the partitioning part.
[06:03] <kalifornia909> thank god no more dealing with rpm give me sudo lol
[06:03] <Celt> Kalifornia909: it runs a bit slow as you actually park the image in a virtual garage, and the usb key, acts as a huge piece of ram.  but you can make changes to the machine and everything.
[06:03] <Juanca> rukuartic: I have lines like this one: deb http://pe.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse...   should I change it for instance for this: deb http://pe.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse?
[06:03] <valehru> !subversion
[06:04] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[06:04] <valehru> Hey guys, Im having trouble with a subversion installation.....its asking me for my password however it is the same user that I am logged in with.  THe password seems to be different.  Is there a way I can set the subversion password for the user/
[06:04] <valehru> ?
[06:04] <oktober> anyone handy with screen resolution issues? Quake4 won't launch anymore because it wants 1600X1200 and my LCD scren can't do that...
[06:04] <Celt> kalifornia909: and Moka5 is free.
[06:04] <kalifornia909> celt, seems interesting
[06:04] <xtknight> weast, cool. so the new system (7.04) looks fine?
[06:04] <valehru> !subversion
[06:04] <eck> rever: if by preload you mean readahread, it just preemptively reads files into the file cache
[06:04] <rukuartic> Juanca: Yes I think so.
[06:04] <kalifornia909> my next project is going to be to be able to play wow on linux with beryl installed
[06:04] <rukuartic> Juanca: I need to go... I'm sorry :(
[06:04] <weast> xtknight: All good :)
[06:04] <rukuartic> Juanca: its midnight. Good luck getting it installed!
[06:05] <chamunks> eck, what other packages do you figure would be really beneficial
[06:05] <xtknight> weast, yeah i figured that would be the case.  just run "sudo apt-get autoclean" to emulate that phase.  probably that's what it does.  not harmful
[06:05] <Celt> kalifornia909: I did my masters thesis on virtual machines.  I actually was able to get a full web development platform on a 1 gig key.
[06:05] <eck> chamunks: beneficial for what?
[06:05] <rever> eck, in synaptic I have a preload and a prelink I can install. Reading about them seems as if the do the same
[06:05] <kalifornia909> celt , that is spectacular. very impresive
[06:05] <Celt> kalifornia909:  WoW and beryl?  nice.
[06:05] <mphill> What application should you use to interface with MTP mp3 player devices? amarok + mtp seems to be broken, i get libmtp panics....
[06:06] <kalifornia909> it wont be for a masters, but ill be happy lol
[06:06] <Juanca> hi, can anyone help me upgrading to 7.04, the "New distribution release..." button doesn't appear. plaese
[06:06] <Juanca> please*
[06:06] <kalifornia909> is amarok kde only
[06:06] <weast> xtknight: Sure. What is autoclean doing?
[06:06] <xtknight> weast, wiping apt-get cache (.debs)
[06:06] <mneptok> Juanca: what are you running now?
[06:06] <eck> rever: it looks like prelink is just a way of caching what libraries a program needs to load so your system doesn't have to hunt around for htem when you launch the app
[06:06] <Celt> Kalifornia909: it sounds more impressive than it actually is.  Just a bunch of work, like everything else. ;)
[06:06] <john> if after attempting to mount a harddrive (or format it), gparted starts freezing up, and console throws a ton of errors.....is the disk fscked?
[06:06] <kalifornia909> mphill what kind of mp3 device
[06:06] <Kewlb> anyone have any idea on my hardware raid issue?
[06:06] <mphill> iRiver t10
[06:06] <Juanca> mneptok: 6.10
[06:06] <dan__> Does anyone know what a good tagger like Picard is for linux?
[06:06] <eck> rever: and it looks preload reads files into the cache
[06:07] <mneptok> dan__: ID3?
[06:07] <vashypooh> I am currently trying to install frequency scaling onto my laptop in 7.04 and trying to follow this guide but i get this error on sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino
[06:07] <kalifornia909> celt, yup tried for a week to get raid going. no luck. wiife's pissed so im just giving this project up
[06:07] <mneptok> *what
[06:07] <vashypooh> FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): Device or resource busy
[06:07] <rever> eck, cool thanks similar but a little different
[06:07] <dan__> mneptok: Is that a program...Or are you asking me if that is what I'm tagging?
[06:07] <mneptok> Juanca: are you comfortable editing text files?
[06:07] <mphill> kalifornia909, you can install kde lbs and run many kde apps withing gnome including amarok.
[06:07] <Celt> kalifornia909: ;)
[06:07] <Juanca> mneptok: yes, tell me
[06:07] <mneptok> dan__: ID3 tags. is that what you're after?
[06:07] <vashypooh> how should I go about this?
[06:07] <kalifornia909> mphill ive never tried. no interest in kde really
[06:07] <mneptok> Juanca: PM?
[06:07] <dan__> mneptok: yes
[06:08] <mneptok> dan__: sudo apt-get install easytag
[06:08] <Juanca> mneptok: sure
[06:08] <Celt> incidentally are there smmaller ubuntu channels?  1133 is a bit over the top.
[06:08] <mphill> kalifornia909, i know the feeling
[06:08] <kalifornia909> i need some new hardwill
[06:08] <cstine> m
[06:08] <Mirthy> Hey guys, whenever I minimize anything, it disappears.  Thoughts?
[06:08] <C_J_Pro> Woops
[06:08] <C_J_Pro> /quit
[06:09] <dan__> mneptok: i tried that program, but i didnt like it cause it doesnt go on the web and get the info.
[06:09] <Celt> Mirthy: did you delete your bottom panel?
[06:09] <kalifornia909> this mobo is not linux friendly
[06:09] <mphill> Mirthy, compiz or beryl installed?
[06:09] <Mirthy> Fresh install of Feisty; bottom panel is still there.
[06:09] <Madpilot> Celt, a lot of the local Ubuntu teams (country/state/city teams) have their own channels - #ubuntu-ca for the Canadian team, for example
[06:09] <HP_User> I need a bit of help,I am attempting to install Ubuntu onto my other laptop and have gotten error after error trying to install.Any suggestions?
[06:09] <nica_myute_aiu_n> hi boleh kenal g
[06:09] <Celt> Madpilot: thank you sir.
[06:09] <mphill> Mirthy, a broken theme? try changing it to like clear looks?
[06:09] <mneptok> dan__: you need to spend more time in ET's prefs, dude :)
[06:09] <Madpilot> Celt, where are you from?
[06:10] <Mirthy> Hrm... I shall try that out mphill.
[06:10] <kalifornia909> anyone remember the asus a7n8x-e delux mobo
[06:10] <Celt> Madpilot: United States.
[06:10] <dan__> mneptok: ET's Prefs? lol what are you referring to?
[06:10] <Bakefy> does amarok freeze for everyone?
[06:10] <chamunks> eck, i guess i dont know what im talking about yet but thanks you saved quite a bit of googleing with just referring me to those packages
[06:10] <Bakefy> I can't play anything!
[06:10] <mneptok> dan__: EasyTag? the app we were discussing?
[06:10] <Madpilot> Celt, which state? A lot of the US states are forming their own teams, and some of the big cities too - Ubuntu Chicago, etc
[06:10] <john> s
[06:10] <TECH_1> Do I need to install anything before install beryl?
[06:10] <mphill> Mirthy,  maybe they mapped the exit callback to the minimize ?  just guesses here.  sounds like someone i would do. :)
[06:10] <Celt> Madpilot:  Arkansas
[06:11] <mikerobi> I have a broken package that won't uninstall, what do I do?
[06:11] <dan__> mneptok: ohhhh...so it has the option to do that?
[06:11] <mphill> mikerobi, try the -f flag with apt-get
[06:11] <Mirthy> mphill, tried changing theme and still the same.
[06:11] <Mirthy> Yeah, don't know what's up...
[06:11] <mikerobi> mphill: no luck
[06:11] <mphill> Mirthy, is the application still running, check with top or ps
[06:12] <rwxr-xr--> !686
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <vic2> guys: is there a TVTuner program for ubuntu?
[06:12] <mphill> mikerobi, whats the error?
[06:12] <rwxr-xr--> !386
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <kahrytan> vic2: Tvtime or better yet, Mythtv
[06:12] <TECH_1> !beryl
[06:12] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:12] <Mirthy> mphill: I don't know wha "top" or "ps" is :( (Linux newb)
[06:12] <dan__> mneptok: what am i looking for in the prefs of ET?
[06:12] <mikerobi> mphill: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal
[06:12] <mphill> hummm
[06:13] <Madpilot> Celt, have a look thru https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList - don't think there's a team from your state, but there might be.
[06:13] <mikerobi> mphill: reinstalling doesn't work
[06:13] <mneptok> dan__: CD Data Base
[06:13] <mphill> mikerobi, run apt-get --reinstall -f package_name
[06:13] <dan__> mneptok: aha! what should i configure to make it get the info itself?
[06:13] <[Flux] > wow i love the default cd/dvd creator
[06:13] <vic2> wow getting gl to work is a pain in the A**!
[06:13] <mphill> Mirthy, system -> administration -> system monitor and lick the processes tab
[06:13] <[Flux] > so much less resource intensive than say, nero
[06:14] <Electricity> Away. Bye.
[06:14] <Celt> Madpilot: thanks for the tip, I really appreciate it.  I'm not getting alot of help on the forums so I thought i would try MIRC.
[06:14] <netwkrtot> thanks guys
[06:14] <mphill> vic2, must be a ATI owner...
[06:14] <netwkrtot> bye
[06:14] <mikerobi> mphill: apt-get didn't like that command string
[06:14] <Akuzed> I'm having some issues installing unbuntu on my laptop, I'm thinking I should have removed windows completely first, if I remove windows will it make the process not error up all the time?
[06:14] <mikerobi> mphill: E: invalid operation package_name
[06:14] <Celt> Madpilot: errr IRC*
[06:14] <mphill> mikerobi, what is the package name
[06:14] <mikerobi> mphill: k3d
[06:14] <[Flux] > vic2: check the forums, it was pretty easy to get my ATI drivers to work using guides there
[06:15] <eck> Akuzed: what errors areyou getting?
[06:15] <mikerobi> mphill: I tried with another package, same result
[06:15] <mphill> try to do an apt-get update then type apt-get --reinstall k3b
[06:15] <dan__> mneptok: what am i changing here?
[06:15] <SubMOA> so in my /etc/firestarter file everything has a red X... how do I get new copies of those files?
[06:15] <vic2> flux: i dont get it, when do i actually install xgl??
[06:15] <mikerobi> mphill: not gonna work
[06:15] <Madpilot> Celt, this channel isn't that scary right now, firing your questions off here might actually work too ;)
[06:15] <Bakefy> Can anyone please help me install my network printer.
[06:15] <Catball> Hi all. Does anyone know if Orca is the only accessibility technology for blind-or visually impaired users of Ubuntu? What happens if you ever got tired of Gnome and wished to use a text console, and free up system resources? etc? Thanks. I am considering testing it out, and I'm totally blind.
[06:15] <mphill> mikerobi, did you do an update though, that can help a lot.
[06:15] <mikerobi> mphill: yes
[06:15] <Kewlb> I am attempting to install Ubuntu Server version on a new AMD64 dual-core machine. I setup hardware RAID0 (striping) (NVIDIA SATA raid card on-board), but ubuntu is not recognizing the logical drive -- it is seeing both physical drives in the partitioning part.
[06:16] <mikerobi> mphill: I don't think the --reinstall flag works as you think
[06:16] <Celt> Madpilot: ;)   Looks spooky to me,,im in a small town, i cant even see this fast. ;)
[06:16] <[Flux] > lol
[06:16] <terapicodave> Bakefy: what's the status of your network printer currently?
[06:16] <Mirthy> mphill: seems as if the process is still running when minimized
[06:17] <kahrytan> Celt: If you think that was scary then you should be here when a troll stops by.
[06:17] <Pelo> Catball,  there is a voice thingy called  festiva or festival and also a braille display app
[06:17] <Bakefy> its connected to the network
[06:17] <Bakefy> its detected
[06:17] <vic2> guys, why are there so many forums on installing a ati DRIVER when its on the ati website
[06:17] <eck> Catball: there are a number of accessibility toolkits, i know that there is a brltty package installed by default
[06:17] <Celt> kahrytan: I bet.
[06:17] <vic2> dont u have to just unpack or w/e?
[06:18] <Akuzed> eck: I'm getting errors of this nature: hdc error code, logical block,it scrolls squatch error, and cash block, and unable to read directory block, among several others
[06:18] <Bakefy> terapicodave, Its attached and detected.
[06:18] <Celt> Holy crap!! There is an arkansas team, I don't even believe it.
[06:18] <terapicodave> Bakefy: model? you're connecting from ubuntu desktop?
[06:18] <chapm4> i have printer question
[06:18] <mphill> mikerobi, lets use aptitude instead, try aptitude reinstall k3b
[06:18] <eck> Catball: orca is what Gnome will be using in the future though, so it is what is most likely to be up to date
[06:18] <dan__> does anyone know how the Easy Tag auto info getter thing works?
[06:18] <zcat[1] > Catball: there's also gnopernicus for gnome, and yasr for the terminal (which is what my friend uses exclusively..)
[06:18] <eck> Akuzed: i don't think that it is related to having windows installed
[06:19] <mikerobi> mphill: aptitude suggested that I manually fix the package
[06:19] <mphill> Mirage, open a console and type killall gnome-panel
[06:19] <Bakefy> terapicodave, that is correct.  I just found a new website telling me a new way to try installing it.
[06:19] <kahrytan> Celt: But you be amazed on how many ops hang around.
[06:19] <chapm4> ubuntu recognizes my lexmark 3350 and installs driver, i can't print to it though
[06:19] <Bakefy> terapicodave, its a brother 2070N
[06:19] <Catball> Does Ubuntu include support for Speakup? Speakup is a textual console application. Orca, is a Gnome rrelated tool, and does not work on a console.
[06:19] <Akuzed> Eck: Okay, so that negates that, possibility. What else could it be? I've been bugging with this for about 3 days now and have gotten nowhere
[06:19] <Celt> kahrytan: oh ya. ;)
[06:19] <Pelo> chapm4, make sure you selected the correct lpt port
[06:19] <Catball> Speakup can be moduler or compiled into the kernel directly.
[06:19] <terapicodave> Bakefy: ok, give the page a shot and come back if you still need help
[06:20] <chapm4> its usb 1 it says
[06:20] <mphill> mikerobi, what happened that caused this?
[06:20] <Centaur5> I just swapped a pci 10/100 network card for a 1000 but Ubuntu assigned it eth1 so how can I make it eth0?
[06:20] <zcat[1] > Catball: speakup does TTS ?
[06:20] <Bakefy> terapicodave, thanks buddy!
[06:20] <eck> Akuzed: if you pastebin the exact error you have i can look at it
[06:20] <Catball> Of course, the other question is: Is it possible to isntall Ubuntu, and  it to not load any of the GUI related programs?configure
[06:20] <tankcat> is using ssh key authentication (with ssh-keygen and the knownhosts file) safe as passwords?
[06:20] <Pelo> chapm4,  in menu > system > prefs > removable media  there is a section with a check box for usb printers did you check it ?
[06:20] <mphill> tankcat, yes, some consider more secure.
[06:20] <mikerobi> mphill: most likely it was the package maintainer
[06:20] <Catball> I have so much more experience with Linux when working from the text-based commandlines. GUI (And I'm somewhat scared) of testing Ubuntu out for the first time..Heh
[06:21] <chapm4> tnks pelo ill check
[06:21] <zcat[1] > Catball: yes, it's quite easy to install without the GUI or just ignore the GUI and use text only.
[06:21] <Mirthy> I might just have to reinstall Feisty...
[06:21] <LordLimecat> hey, i want to try kubuntu and xubuntu...issue is, i dont want kde programs cluttering up my gnome menus, and gnome progs cluttering up xfce and kde menus....would the easiest way to accomplish this be with 3 partitions and 3 installs, but one home folder?
[06:21] <tankcat> mphill, should i put a password on my key? it asks me when I do ssh-keygen
[06:21] <Mirthy> Is there a way Feisty can check if Im missing necessary files?
[06:21] <LordLimecat> are there any issues with above plan?
[06:21] <terapicodave> Catball: you can always just open a terminal and leave the gui for if you need it...otherwise you could install a minimal server version
[06:21] <dan__> can anyone help me?
[06:21] <mphill> tankcat, I don't just run ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 1024
[06:21] <eck> Catball: you might also want to try joining #ubuntu-accessibility and reading the accessibility pages onthe wiki (and launchpad.net)
[06:21] <Pelo> LordLimecat,  you could always just use the live cd version of each
[06:21] <mikerobi> mphill: synaptic complained when I first installed it, the configure scripts were broken, but everything worked, I was hoping a dist upgrade would fix it
[06:22] <LordLimecat> Pelo: id like to get familiar and adept with the different desktops....
[06:22] <Pelo> dan__,  what's the problem
[06:22] <zcat[1] > Catball: I'm not sure a blind person can do it unassisted yet though. orca won't let me access any admin commands and the text installer has no accessability features .. quite frustrating
[06:22] <mphill> mikerobi, I am out of ideas without ssh'ing to the box. sorry :(
[06:22] <LordLimecat> and ideally, be able to switch between em
[06:22] <Pelo> LordLimecat,  seperate partitions would so it
[06:22] <Catball> What I'm concerned with is if only the desktop is accessible to blind folks, or if all versions are, I've never really dived into Ubuntu accessibility, from what I've seen most are on the desktop LiveCD.
[06:22] <dan__> Pelo: In the tagging program Easy Tag there is a way to get it to do an automatic search for the info for the tracks...I just dont know how to do it...
[06:22] <mphill> Mirthy, does this problem persist after a reboot as well?
[06:22] <mikerobi> mphill: thats ok
[06:22] <LordLimecat> Pelo: are there issues with sharing a home folder between the 3 installs?
[06:22] <zcat[1] > Catball: but once it's installed you can do everything from the terminal no problem.
[06:23] <jesse> Hi, i am going to setup Internet connection sharing by following these instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 but before
[06:23] <LordLimecat> would i need a 4th partition for /home?
[06:23] <Mirthy> Yes it does, mphill :(
[06:23] <tankcat> mphill, okok, thanks for the reassurance
[06:23] <Pelo> dan__, oh, not sure let me check
[06:23] <mikerobi> mphill: this computer is about to get its hard drive wiped anyway
[06:23] <mphill> Mirage, do you have the desktop effects enabled?
[06:23] <dan__> Pelo: k
[06:23] <LordLimecat> Pelo: im basically looking for tips so that this doesnt end in disaster :)
[06:23] <eck> LordLimecat: it is probably ok, there are some things that could break though, especially if you have different versions of programs installed
[06:23] <jesse> I do i was wondering if there is a easy way as seeing that post was a few years ago.
[06:23] <Catball> There is a quick question I have. First.
[06:24] <yigal> its so quick its slow
[06:24] <LordLimecat> eck: is there an easier way to have segregated kde, gnome, and xfce setups (ie no menu contamination from other desktops)?
[06:24] <Pelo> LordLimecat,  same progs would use same settings folder I assume but non same programs woudl setup their own,  the fiels would be accessible to all
[06:24] <eck> LordLimecat: i do it with a complex symlink system
[06:24] <mphill> LordLimecat, edit the menus by hand
[06:24] <LordLimecat> mphill: that sounds really painful :(
[06:24] <yigal> LordLimeCat: do triple boot if you have the room
[06:24] <mphill> LordLimecat, it is
[06:24] <Catball> You need to understand, before I continue, My Ubuntu CD will not have Intenret access automatically. Linux will detect my card. But sinse I've disabled DHCP servers on the LAN here, I must launch eth0 manually. And sinse I'll be stuck in Gnome, I'm going to  be rather screwed.
[06:24] <LordLimecat> 80gb should be plenty if i partition right, no?
[06:25] <mphill> Maybe run virtualbox and run virtual distros ?
[06:25] <zcat[1] > Catball: I would suggest using the terminal with yasr screenreader and eflite software TTS.
[06:25] <yigal> LLC: yes
[06:25] <Pelo> dan I have a menu entry under others for cidb  but I donT' have anything to try it with
[06:25] <Catball> Uh
[06:25] <Catball> Problem there.
[06:25] <LordLimecat> yigal: would i want my /boot on partition1, /home on partition2, and the rest on parts 3,4,and 5?
[06:25] <Elmer> Installing Xubuntu in text mode and it is stopped at a blue screen with a blank grey  bar at the bottom of it
[06:25] <LordLimecat> or what would you suggest?
[06:25] <zcat[1] > Catball: at this point I don't think you'll be able to install unassisted. I tried and speach stops as soon as you run the installer.
[06:25] <Elmer> what should I do
[06:25] <LordLimecat> eck: explain yer symlink system?
[06:26] <yigal> LLC: maybe, because both KDE, GNOME, and XFCE will all have configuration files on your /home if this is ok, sure yes
[06:26] <Catball> Well, has anyone hurd of the new open-source software enjin for speech synthesizers called ESPeak?
[06:26] <Catball> It's faster then EFlite. ESpeak, I mean
[06:26] <yigal> Catball: now i have
[06:26] <Catball> It's multi-lingual.
[06:26] <zcat[1] > Catball: I'll look it up, sounds good
[06:26] <eck> LordLimecat: i have all the data that I want to share (e.g. documents, music, config files I care about) in /data with symlinks from ~ to them, and then all the crap that I don't care about sharing across distros/installs just goes into that install's /home
[06:26] <JNowka> I was wondering if anyone knows how to fix the intel graphics problem found when trying to play nwn under feisty?
[06:26] <yigal> Catball: ESPeak can it be used to issue cammands to Ubuntu ?
[06:26] <Catball> You can get it from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak.
[06:27] <Catball> And
[06:27] <Akuzed> Eck: I am having trouble getting the codes to pastebin, I am going to go back to the manual and see if there is something I might have over looked
[06:27] <LordLimecat> eck: is there a way to have /data merged into /home along with the other /home stuff?
[06:27] <Catball> If you are used to british english..be ready to have fun. LOL
[06:27] <dan__> anything?
[06:27] <yigal> Catball: are you just spamming or are you also reading
[06:27] <Akuzed> Eck: Thank you for trying however :D
[06:27] <aoirthoir> What about irish english?
[06:27] <LordLimecat> kind of like in windows how allusers\desktop is merged onto everyones desktop?
[06:27] <aoirthoir> :D
[06:27] <Pelo> dan__ I have a menu entry under others for cidb  but I donT' have anything to try it with
[06:27] <GrooveStix> good evening!
[06:27] <yigal> GS: good evening
[06:27] <LordLimecat> eck: ....is that possibly what unionfs is?
[06:27] <eck> Akuzed: well if you get it working, come back and i'm sure I (or someone else) can help
[06:27] <chapm4> Pelo, checked usb in menu>system>removeable, but still won't print any other?
[06:27] <eck> LordLimecat: yeah, I haven't really looked into it
[06:28] <Pelo> dan__, if I were you I would google for the easytag website and look for a manual
[06:28] <LordLimecat> eck: well, regardless, youve got me thinkin :D
[06:28] <zcat[1] > Catball: you're able to keep up with this channel?
[06:28] <LordLimecat> this could turn out really well (or really really badly)
[06:28] <aoirthoir> what is easytag?
[06:28] <LordLimecat> thanks all :D
[06:28] <Pelo> chapm4,  and you did setup the printer driver in menu > system > admin > printer ?
[06:28] <Catball> Pretty much. I'm on Windblows ATM.
[06:28] <larry__> hello,everyoen
[06:28] <eck> LordLimecat: i only have a dozen or two things to symlink so I just manage it by hand
[06:28] <Catball> However at some point I'm stuffing Ubuntu onto this AMD64.
[06:28] <chapm4> pelo, ill check
[06:28] <Catball> And I'm going to blast Windblows off this box.
[06:28] <GrooveStix> I hope that this problem has been resolved
[06:28] <Pelo> aoirthoir,  easytag is an editor for idmp3 tags
[06:28] <GrooveStix> but!
[06:29] <GrooveStix> I am getting "there was an error starting the gnome settings daemon" when I try to install ubuntu
[06:29] <LordLimecat> eck: im all for complexity :D  i may try a quadboot (xp, feisty gnome, feisty kde, feisty xfce
[06:29] <dan__> Pelo: Okay, ill try that.
[06:29] <zcat[1] > Catball: keep it dualboot. best of both worlds..
[06:29] <LordLimecat> complexity=coolness
[06:29] <aoirthoir> Pelo, Thanks kindly g!
[06:29] <eck> LordLimecat: haha, i understand
[06:29] <chapm4> Pelo, i did that first and it recognize the model and gave two drivers i tried both
[06:29] <aoirthoir> brb stomachs hurtin AGAIN..gotta run.
[06:29] <kalifornia909> !frostwire
[06:29] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:29] <yigal> complexity is third law of thermodynamics = entropy
[06:29] <LordLimecat> lol
[06:29] <zcat[1] > Catball: you partial or total?
[06:30] <Pelo> chapm4,  ok  check the properties and see where it is ..."plugged in"  if you get my meaning
[06:30] <Catball> Total.
[06:30] <nu-> !codecs
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <LordLimecat> entropy=cool then
[06:30] <kalifornia909> does frostwire share the same server with limewire or do you only dl from people with just frostwire
[06:30] <Pelo> chapm4,   note that I have no idea what I am doing here,  I am just trying to stear you to places to look for solutions
[06:30] <LordLimecat> cool=getting VLC multicasting working across the internet thru multiple vpn connections
[06:31] <GrooveStix> who should I PM for my problem: "there was an error starting the gnome settings daemon" when trying to install Ubuntu ?
[06:31] <LordLimecat> =uber
[06:31] <zcat[1] > Catball: well if you want to boot the live cd with orca, the magic incantation after the CD stops spinning is "F5, downarrow three times, enter twice" -- wait a wile and you'll have a live desktop with speech.
[06:31] <Pelo> kalifornia909,  same servers  d
[06:31] <chapm4> pelo, says usb 1
[06:31] <kalifornia909> pelo thanks
[06:31] <chapm4> i appreciate pelo
[06:31] <foolhardy> howdy ppl, is this an appropriate place to ask questions on ubuntu 6.06LTS server?
[06:31] <Pelo> chapm4,  my last suggestion is that you check the forum for your model or other problems relating to usb printers
[06:31] <dabaR> kalifornia909: it is more distributed than "client-server", and you can get files from people using limewire, among other gnutella clients. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnutella
[06:31] <Catball> Can someone take a look at the latest Ubuntu CD, go to a text ternal, and see if there is a directory called speakup under /proc?
[06:32] <yigal> foolhardy: yes
[06:32] <Catball> text termanal.
[06:32] <zcat[1] > Catball: but if you try to do any admin stuff like running the installer it stops talking.
[06:32] <chapm4> pelo, thnks
[06:32] <foolhardy> thankyou yigal.
[06:32] <Elmer> lol
[06:32] <LordLimecat> eck: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7714      woot
[06:32] <Pelo> chapm4,  stupid question here is the printer turned on or are you expecting ubuntu to turn it on automaticlay ( which can be done with usb printer I think )
[06:32] <kalifornia909> interesting
[06:33] <sanityx> I'm getting the impression that Kubuntu is more popular than Ubuntu on the desktop(not laptops).
[06:33] <JNowka> Does anyone know anything about the Intel graphics problems found in feisty associated with Neverwinter Nights?
[06:33] <Catball> What kernel does Ubuntu use anyways/
[06:33] <Catball> ?
[06:33] <sanityx> Catball: Feisty uses 2.6.20
[06:33] <LordLimecat> Catball: which ubuntu
[06:33] <foolhardy> My question relates to 'apt-get' and my apparent lack of ability to get valid 'sources', I type 'sudo apt-get update' and it goes through a large list of servers but either ignores or errors on them, because of this I cant install many packages I wish
[06:33] <dabaR> Catball: run uname -a to see.
[06:33] <JNowka> I use Kubuntu on my laptop
[06:33] <Pelo> JNowka,  try the forum
[06:33] <TraceGreen> hello, are there any ways to set X not to use fullscreen? just use middle of screen?
[06:33] <JNowka> I have
[06:33] <yigal> uname -r is a bit cleaner than uname -a
[06:33] <sanityx> TraceGreen: Why would you want X not to run fullscreen
[06:33] <GrooveStix> hey folks, can someone help me install Ubuntu?
[06:33] <JNowka> I am the only one researching and posting there, was hoping someone here had found something
[06:34] <scott_> servery type question.. if using lvm i create a logical volume, then run cfdisk against the volume and create a partition inside of it.. is there any way to access that partition?
[06:34] <Pelo> foolhardy,  did you mess around with your sources list ?  also the servers have had some rough time in the last week because of the upgrade to feisty it might be related
[06:34] <TraceGreen> sanityx, I just want to set :-)
[06:34] <wehttamb_> does any one know a forum that i could put on my website that does not require mysql or any other data base like that
[06:34] <Catball> Oh..! I didn't know there were more then one type of Ubuntu. I new there were different version numbers, but Woh..So what does feistie mean in this case?
[06:34] <Catball> And,
[06:34] <foolhardy> what is frustrating is that I can 'nslookup' and 'ping' the apt source eg: au.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <zcat[1] > Catball: fesity is a version number, 7.04..
[06:34] <Catball> Can Ubuntu be downloaded via FTP? I would rather not sit watching Internet Explorer crash as it tries to download an Iso image so slowly..
[06:35] <LordLimecat> Catball: try firefox?
[06:35] <Pelo> JNowka,  the way you were talking about "the" intel graphic problem i was under the impression it was a common one
[06:35] <LordLimecat> Catball: or torrents?
[06:35] <JNowka> Catball, You can download it using torrent
[06:35] <dan__> Pelo: Is there any other tagging program that does the info automatically? Cause I can't find anything that is helping me with the EasyTag automatically thing.
[06:35] <zcat[1] > Catball: edgy is the previous version, dapper is the one before that
[06:35] <sizzam> anyone have remote desktop problems when using Beryl?
[06:35] <yigal> Catball: firefox filezilla
[06:35] <Pelo> Catball, you can get torrents to if that helps
[06:35] <foolhardy> catball, my local isp mirror has FTP access and all the latest ubuntu, perhaps try yours?
[06:35] <corrupt> if you all didn't use run ubuntu, what would you run?
[06:35] <JNowka> Pelo, It is when using NWN, several have posted on it, I seem to be the only one researching it
[06:36] <Catball> Not all firefox tools are yet accessible on the Windows side of assistive technolgoy.
[06:36] <Catball> technology.
[06:36] <yigal> corrupt: run ubuntu?
[06:36] <sizzam> corrupt: probably fedora for me
[06:36] <LordLimecat> corrupt: XP till vista became required....then redhat 7 out of spite
[06:36] <TrendKi||> corrupt, arch
[06:36] <Pelo> dan__,  I donT' think you will find a tagging program that tags old files,  usualy that cidb database is good for taging files when you rip the cd,  it checks the cd id for it's info
[06:36] <yigal> I would run Debian as I am also doing
[06:36] <corrupt> yigal, use ubuntu.
[06:36] <thompa> intel macbook working real well
[06:37] <Catball> the firefox browser is the latest tool accessible to Window-Eyes, JAWS for Windows, and other windows screen-access programs. I'm currently attempting to keep up with this channel. So, every time I get a message I here: <Nickname says> <Message> and so on.
[06:37] <foolhardy> can anyone give me guidance in resolving my apt sources issues with ubuntu dapper (6.06 LTS server)
[06:37] <thompa> wireless is flakey though
[06:37] <yigal> corrupt: i use both ubuntu and debian
[06:37] <dan__> Pelo: But these files are already on the computer...So you don't know what to do?
[06:37] <yigal> foolhardy: so when you do something like " apt-get update" what do you get?
[06:37] <JNowka> Pelo, I am guessing it is a bug in opengl, but I don't wanna go messing with it, without seeing if anyone else is working on it
[06:37] <LordLimecat> foolhardy: are you getting wierd "duplicate sources" errors?
[06:37] <cje> hi, does anyone happen to know which repositories might have transcode for Edgy?  Thanks either way.
[06:37] <Catball> BTW
[06:37] <Pelo> dan__,  listen to them , figure out what they are and write your own tags
[06:37] <zcat[1] > Catball: I'm guessing you have to have key-echo off to survive in here...
[06:38] <LordLimecat> foolhardy: because that can possibly be solved via a cleanout of yer apt cache.....
[06:38] <TrendKi||> corrupt, actually, depends on what you want to do...you should really really try reading all the flamewars on osnews to make an objective decision
[06:38] <dan__> Pelo: I listen to death metal :P kinda hard to understand exactly what they are saying....
[06:38] <yigal> foolhardy: do you have apt installed?
[06:38] <Pelo> dan__, I can'T do it for you
[06:38] <LordLimecat> yo :D
[06:39] <foolhardy> yigal: lots of 'failed to fetch'
[06:39] <Catball> Ubuntu is based off Debian, I have gathered this much, hereing you folks mention aptitude and other Debian utilities. Question is, wich branch of debian is it based off of? I've already tryed some accessibility LiveCD's like GRML, but sinse GRML is debian sid/unstable..Upgrading is such a pian..!
[06:39] <TrendKi||> dan__, u listen to like deicide?
[06:39] <Catball> So, I am now turning to Ubuntu, to see what it has to offer in terms of software.
[06:39] <dan__> TrendKill: yeah lol
[06:39] <yigal> foolhardy: this usually has to do with repositories that are overloaded
[06:39] <JNowka> Catball, it is its own branch of Debian I believe.
[06:39] <zcat[1] > Catball: every six months they take the unstable debian, freeze it and make it stable, basically.
 yeah
[06:39] <yigal> foolhardy: what repos are you using?
[06:39] <foolhardy> yigal: does this mean they are too busy
[06:40] <TrendKi||> dan__, i saw them live once...a bit too old-school for me now
[06:40] <yigal> foolhardy: usually yes
 really? what are you into now?
[06:40] <zcat[1] > Catball: that's how I understand it. I'm not a developer though
[06:40] <foolhardy> i am using the au.archive.ubuntu.com mainly i think, but so many fail (i addes the us ones aswell)(
[06:40] <[koji] > why is it when i enabled desktop effects my terminal is just white space?
[06:40] <TrendKi||> dan__, lamb of god, killswitch engage...i've really toned it down
[06:40] <foolhardy> yet I can ping the said hosts and get a response
[06:40] <Catball> So what is the latest version of Ubuntu then? Let me check out Ubuntu.com. I need to make sure I grab the desktop CD image. Hold on.
 Bummer...I am getting more into the brutal stuff! Like Cannibal Corpse, etc.
[06:41] <Catball> BTW
[06:41] <yigal> foolhardy: servers if they have too many requests will give you the failed error
[06:41] <zcat[1] > Catball: feisty 7.04 is the most recent
 WHat do you use for tagging?
[06:41] <yigal> fooldhardy: try and use another repos and tell us if you have the same problem
[06:41] <TrendKi||> dan__, CC are so passed their prime...
[06:41] <LordLimecat> if i have feisty running on harddrive A.....and harddrive B just became available....and i have the iso for feisty (but no attached burner), is there some way to sort of flop feisty onto harddrive b without burning it
[06:41] <Catball> Is upgrading ubuntu from release to release off the Intenret a problem? Or does that pretty much work like a charm. I really hope that I can just download Ubuntu once, and not to have to go through the iso downloading process a second time.
[06:41] <TrendKi||> dan__, easytag
[06:42] <foolhardy> yigal, so I should comment out all sources from my apt source.list, and add a new one?
[06:42] <thompa> headphones dont work, but sound works unplugged
 do you do the auto thing, or do you do it just manually?
[06:42] <napkin1> Does anyone know how to run Eclipse under Sun's JRE instead of bloody gcj?
[06:42] <yigal> Catball: I find it is better to install a fresh ubuntu after every release
[06:42] <foolhardy> can you perhaps recommend a source for me (humour my ignorance)
[06:42] <Kewlb> about how large should a /boot partition be?
[06:42] <dabaR> !upgrade | Catball
[06:42] <ubotu> Catball: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:42] <yigal> foolhardy: yes
[06:42] <sizzam> when using Beryl, i can't remote desktop correctly.  i see the display, but can't use any menus, etc remotely
[06:42] <TrendKi||> dan__, ok what tagging are we talking about? id3 tags?
[06:42] <Catball> Also, does Multi-Channel sound card support work in Ubuntu? The standard Linux ALSA drivers don't do it on my so0und card based off of other distrobutions that I've tested.
 yep.
[06:42] <Catball> I mean sound card.
[06:42] <zcat[1] > Catball: I've found the upgrades fairly painless
[06:43] <asc> Catball: I found the upgrade from edgy to feisty to be very smooth
[06:43] <Catball> Ah
[06:43] <thompa> headphones were working the other day until i switched from kubuntu
[06:43] <foolhardy> yigal, can you recommend a source plz?
[06:43] <aoirthoir> ok back.
[06:43] <TrendKi||> dan__, yeh, just use easytag...you can do tagging based on filenames, and do filenames based on id3 tags...and even do some more stuff..easy tag has done miracles for me....
[06:43] <zcat[1] > Catball: soundcards I don't know. verne ended up with three soundcards and a USB transmitter .. blindie version of a multihead display I guess :)
[06:44] <Catball> ROFL
[06:44] <yigal> foolhardy: you live in Ausi land but try the American version: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted just to test
[06:44] <aoirthoir> btw if anyone wants to know ..I got Cobol (Open Cobol v.33 specifically) working on Fiesty with cgi support.
[06:44] <Catball> Multi-channel support means you could say, use software speech and at the same time, play a media player at the same time while using the speech output. In otherwords, multiple sounds  all through a single sound card.
[06:45] <yigal> foolhardy: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted multiverse universe
[06:45] <foolhardy> yigal, I think my version is 'dapper' (6.06 LTS server) should I still try 'feisty'
[06:45] <zcat[1] > Catball: yes that works fairly well
 how do YOU use it?
[06:45] <Rio79> damn! frustrating trying to set up dual monitors
[06:45] <yigal> foolhardy: NO! just replace feisty with dapper
[06:45] <Catball> Software mixing may be another way of looking at it, I know Windows does something similar. For example, I'm using WinAmp, listening to an MP3 Starwars book, while chatting with you folks on #Ubuntu.
[06:45] <dabaR> foolhardy: no. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:45] <foolhardy> yigal, didnt think so but wouldve tried (lol)
[06:45] <Catball> So both my Speech and mp3 audio are coming out of the speakers
[06:46] <aoirthoir> at first I thought someone was making fun of someone then I realized foolhardy was a nick. How ya doin g:)
[06:46] <yigal> foolhardy: sorry, I am a little too relaxed
[06:46] <LordLimecat> if i have the ubuntu iso, can that be mounted (as if it were a CD) and used to run ubiquity to install feisty onto a second harddrive?
[06:46] <Rio79> i wish there was an easy way.... i hate to say it... like windows
[06:46] <zcat[1] > Catball: That definately should work in gnome, and it seems to mostly work in terminal now.
[06:46] <goban> how do i get copy and paste to work in shell?
[06:46] <TrendKi||> dan__, er...sorry, im no teacher...try the docs at http://easytag.sourceforge.net/
 k
[06:46] <dabaR> goban: use shift.
[06:46] <Corbin|Tuxing> hello
[06:47] <Corbin|Tuxing> what is a good open source program like dreamweaver
[06:47] <bef> Is there a decent guide for dual booting XP and Ubuntu feisty, when feisty is already installed?
[06:47] <Thed0n> hey guys I am having trouble getting samba configured using fiesty/kubuntu....does not seem like there is very much verbose logging enabled by default?
[06:47] <Corbin|Tuxing> or another wysiwyg
[06:47] <kristano> #stellar-conflicts
[06:47] <Bakefy> I have never had this problem before, but amarok is not working.  it freezes before playing any songs
[06:48] <Catball> Wow, You guys must seriously be up-to-date. You folks must have text-tools, also, scripts and dialog-based scripts to configure networking devices, on top of say ifconfig, etc. Most Linux distrobutions I have used all have tools to setup networking that differ from standard tools.
[06:48] <zcat[1] > Corbin|Tuxing: nvy or bluefish?
[06:48] <foolhardy> damn, basically the same thing, tells me its ignoring dapper/restricted dapper/multiverse then tells me connection error
[06:48] <tankcat> is it a bad sign if my porn collection is now under subversion control?
[06:48] <dabaR> bef: it is a little involved, but I am sure you can get help here if you get stuck. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is the guide :-)
[06:48] <cje> hi, is anyone here familiar with transcode?  I am trying to install it, and I can't seem to find which repository has it.  Thanks in advance.
[06:48] <Corbin|Tuxing> is bluefish just for hand code or can u see that ur doing
[06:48] <foolhardy> connection failed [IP : 91.xx.xx.xx]
[06:48] <goban> dabaR, thansk
[06:49] <Catball> And Ubuntu may be just what I've been looking for. But I first still need my question answered. Does anyone have the latest coppy of the Ubuntu feisty CD? If so, I wonder if someone can look under /proc, to see if there is a "Speakup" entry.
[06:49] <Intertricity> Anyone here good with the serial port?
[06:49] <zcat[1] > Corbin|Tuxing: I don't know. I do all my web stuff in a text editor :)
[06:49] <Catball> I need to know some information a head of time while I'm dowloading the iso image.
[06:49] <Catball> downloading
[06:49] <Bakefy> does anyone know why with my new installation of 7.04 amarok freezes before playing any music?
[06:49] <foolhardy> BTW. this is a completely fresh LAMP install of dapper server, and its in a VMWARE virtual machine
[06:49] <dabaR> cje: multiverse.
[06:49] <dabaR> !multiverse | cje
[06:49] <ubotu> cje: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:49] <Corbin|Tuxing> ok
[06:50] <Safrole> I'm having issues with Beryl and a Java-based app.. (When I load it the window is blank) I googled and found something about a ~/.bashrc fix (That doesn't work)
[06:50] <Safrole> Does anyone have any suggestions?
[06:50] <Corbin|Tuxing> well ill keep lookin
[06:50] <cje> thanks guys!
[06:50] <LordLimecat> if i have the ubuntu CD, and uninstall ubuntu-desktop, and install kubuntu-desktop, will i have exactly what you get with the kubuntu disk?
[06:50] <dabaR> Bakefy: it may be that you need to change the sound output it uses in the configuration menu
[06:50] <dabaR> LordLimecat: no, you will still have all of gnome.
[06:50] <zcat[1] > Catball: I don't have a livecd booted but there's no /proc/speakup on my recently installed feisty system
[06:50] <yigal> foolhardy: I am sorry
[06:51] <konam> someone had ripped dvds (DVD to .avi) under feisty?
[06:51] <LordLimecat> dabar: but if i remove GNOME?
[06:51] <Catball> Ah
[06:51] <Catball> Apparently Speakup isn't part of the kernel.
[06:51] <foolhardy> dont be sorry yigal, you did your best
[06:51] <foolhardy> it has me stumped too
[06:51] <dabaR> LordLimecat: there are too many packages to remove. ymmv.
[06:51] <yigal> foolhardy: you are getting the same error?
[06:51] <Catball> If it was,
[06:51] <Pelo> LordLimecat,  consider downloading the other cds,  it will make your life easier
[06:51] <Bakefy> dabaR, you are smart, that is a good thing to look at, i am going to take a look thanks!
[06:51] <LordLimecat> alright
[06:51] <Catball> You would find something like this under make menuconfig.
[06:51] <foolhardy> always, any repository, same error
[06:51] <Catball> Device-drivers-console speech
[06:51] <zcat[1] > Catball: there's definately some software TTS on the liveCD though.
[06:52] <yigal> foolhardy: can you reinstall apt or have you?
[06:52] <dabaR> Bakefy: experience :-)
[06:52] <yigal> foolhardy: before you do that, could you give me the exact error?
[06:52] <Catball> Any sites about Ubuntu accessibility? I want to see what I can use. I'm sure Gnome isn't the only thing I can use.
[06:52] <Catball> Heh
[06:52] <foolhardy> yigal, I dont know if i can re-install apt, however this is a fresh install of dapper, nothing else done, eg the cd finishes installing, and first login I type 'sudo apt-get update'