[18:17] <Completenutter2> adante: yeah, they're working alright for me
[18:17] <asac_the_3rd> Mmph: you have to download a amd64 specific cd
[18:17] <dogwater> Hi anyone know which source I need to enable for nvidia-glx-new?
[18:18] <swill> Amaranth: i see you are pretty busy with everything that is going on in here.  is there an FAQ or something that is specific to the 7.10 release that may help work out some of my issues?
[18:18] <Cryoniq> ouff.. gutsy + ati9800pro = snail =(
[18:18] <Mmph> thanks asac_the_3rd  :D
[18:18] <boris_> foxiness : and Loading RAID     Failed    (for example
[18:18] <mc44> dogwater: it's in restricted
[18:18] <Amaranth> !upgrade | swill
[18:18] <ubotu> swill: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:18] <Pici> Jake_001: I beleive there is, it just may not be set as a theme, you haev to pick the gtk theme manually in the customize options
[18:18] <beast_> foxiness: i was hoping someone here would be help me troubleshoot
[18:18] <shinmen> dryrot: Don't be such a troll. Nothing to see here.
[18:18] <adante> oh yep there we go cheers
[18:18] <dogwater> mc44: is it bad to enable that?
[18:18] <frojnd> hoovie mc44 thanx
[18:18] <Completenutter2> adante: np :)
[18:18] <dryrot> shinmen: i think sane people should either download a iso or torrent a iso, i wouldnt make someone use jigdo
[18:18] <mc44> dogwater: no, it should be enabled by default anyway
[18:18] <ghost> can't get 3d desktop cube to work :s
[18:18] <ghost> :(
[18:18] <generalsnus> Pici: ive enabled everything now..but still: E: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate
[18:18] <foxiness> beast_, u must let other what u did n the past and not work
[18:18] <cellofellow> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/134351/comments/23
[18:18] <cellofellow> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=868053
[18:18] <cellofellow> The two previous links have stuff on how to get the sound working on my laptop. I'm not sure exactly how to do it. The former says to remove alsa-lib and alsa-utils. How do I do that without removing those things that depend on them? And what libraries do I need to compile this?
[18:18] <Completenutter2> ghost: what doesn't work?
[18:18] <PovAddict> ghost: #compiz-fusion, this channel is too busy
[18:19] <Pici> generalsnus: We're talking about gutsy, right?
[18:19] <Pici> generalsnus: if so, give me a minute
[18:19] <generalsnus> yup
[18:19] <cellofellow> ghost: #ubuntu-effects
[18:19] <Leviel> geeeeez... help me with my network!  i've read the forums etc, i still dont get it.
[18:19] <Cryoniq> Anyone that got ati9800pro working under gutsy, with open source radeon drivers, direct rendering and compiz?
[18:19] <tatters> molnitza: I was saying that you could try compiling the driver you donwloaded again , you need to be in the Module folder in order to run make and sudo make install
[18:19] <shinmen> dryrot: Do you really think _one_ command line is complicated? Jesus H Christ. they even have GUIs for it.
[18:19] <Pici> generalsnus: sorry, the package is xlibs-static-dev
[18:19] <adante> is there a general 7.10 upgrade thread that i can read to sound out how well this is working for people?
[18:19] <Jake_001> pici there seems just to be inverse ones.  how can i customise it to not be inverse
[18:19] <swill> Amaranth and ubotu: thanks guys, i will go from there.  if i come up with any solutions that i think will help in here i will come back and help out.  cheers...
[18:19] <Leviel> until somebody helps me, i need to keep using windows, which i am tired of.
[18:19] <dennda> shinmen: H?
[18:20] <ghost> cryoniq, i'm trying to do the same, i have x1650 pro
[18:20] <dennda> shinmen: H == holy?
[18:20] <dryrot> shinmen: What does the H stand for?
[18:20] <DigitalNinja> It's Gutsy Gibbon Day!
[18:20] <Pici> Jake_001: Some of the themes let you customize colors,
[18:20] <tommygj> oh yeah ;D
[18:20] <Pici> !offtopic  | dennda  dryrot
[18:20] <ubotu> dennda  dryrot: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:20] <shinmen> dennda: Quoting the drill instructor in full metal jacket.
[18:20] <Nighthawk420> DigitalNinja, lmao
[18:20] <Pici> Jake_001: Otherwise you might be able to find one on gnome-look.org
[18:20] <foxiness> Leviel, its ur problem not our,go ahead
[18:20] <molnitza> @tatters: The modul folder of aircrack?
[18:20] <dennda> ah ok shinmen. sorry Pici
[18:20] <DigitalNinja> Nighthawk42x: It's the geek in me
[18:20] <Leviel> foxiness: thanks, that was kind
[18:20] <Vlet> Leviel: you need to provide specific questions in order for us to give you answers
[18:20] <Cryoniq> ghost: You also have glitches and it feels like syrup moving windows and scroll text? Mine worked flawlessly under Feisty
[18:20] <nicholas> Leviel: state your problem?
[18:20] <Leviel> i don't KNOW which questions to ask!!!
[18:21] <LucidFox> When will Hardy go out of pre-release freeze?
[18:21] <DigitalNinja> Is there a party channel
[18:21] <tech0007> hi! have a problem while installing gutsy. after the restart, it brings up a blank screen w/ a bouncing Hz? box. when i go to console, i only see 'Setting up encryption on volume hda5_crypt....', it just hang there and its been there for 50! mins! i need help!
[18:21] <PovAddict> Leviel: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[18:21] <PovAddict> DigitalNinja: see topic
[18:21] <kritzstapf> i want to use the moodbar in amarok, which packet do i need to use it for mp3-files? i already installed "moodbar"
[18:21] <shinmen> Well, gotta go. I hope to see everybody present in their local Gutsy party. thanks a lot to everybody involved.
[18:21] <Baikonur> what was the D ubuntu?
[18:21] <Baikonur> i mean, before edgy
[18:21] <foxiness> DigitalNinja, see the Topic
[18:21] <Hairulfr> Leviel: Well your f***** then, aren't you. Also try #philosophy
[18:21] <nicholas> Leviel: do you have a little icon on the top with a computer screen or somesuch? click on it?
[18:21] <generalsnus> Pici: ok.. after this i still get some Make errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41092/
[18:21] <Leviel> tell me what you need to know, and i can try to find out...
[18:21] <tommygj> hmm is it possible to increase the resolution further than the "resolution-adjuster" does?
[18:21] <Leviel> PovAddict: i'll check that out
[18:21] <DShepherd> !party | DigitalNinja
[18:21] <ubotu> DigitalNinja: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Gutsy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties
[18:21] <RvGaTe^live> Hey, i wanted to try out the new shiny ubuntu.... installed it without any problems using the live cd... but whenever i boot... i get the following message all the time: "[   xxxxx] ata3.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40), and it keeps giving me that message... i cant do anything, no console... how do i fix this?
[18:21] <aaron87> quick question, I've installed an ATI Radeon 9250 video card, and my computer came with an on-board intel video card, why is it that I cant use the ATI card as a second monitor?
[18:21] <donvinzk> hi, is it possible to download gutsy iso via bittorrent and use it as a source for upgrade ?
[18:21] <Terrasque> tommygj: probably, by changing the screen information
[18:22] <Sp0tUb> How to make a key for ""Evoluion" Mail?
[18:22] <PovAddict> donvinzk: yes, download alternate
[18:22] <Paddy_EIRE> tommygj, yes it is
[18:22] <joshwa> OK, so I just installed Gutsy on this machine, but I wasn' t sure whether to make the swap space logical or primary. I made it logical - which is better?
[18:22] <tatters> molnitza: the Module folder in the rt driver package you downloaded when following the  tutorial you posted
[18:22] <Paddy_EIRE> !fixres | tommygj
[18:22] <ubotu> tommygj: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:22] <airstrike> what's the best way to go about upgrading to the new distro?
[18:22] <Cryoniq> Which one of these cards are better? ATI9800Pro vs Nvidia Geforce6200
[18:22] <tommygj> okey, so I have to edit a configuration files?
[18:22] <tommygj> okey thx
[18:22] <Pici> generalsnus: If ./configure didnt complain about anything else, then I dont know. sorry.
[18:22] <Vlet> airstrike: sudo update-manager -d
[18:22] <wado> hi everybody, could you tell me a good program for HDD surface test?
[18:22] <Hairulfr> Leviel: Well, you could state your problem
[18:22] <Pici> Cryoniq: ##hardware
[18:22] <airstrike> Cryoniq, check out benchmarks at tomshardware.com
[18:22] <Mmph> Cryoniq,  go for the series 7 or 8 nvidia
[18:22] <airstrike> Cryoniq, and nowadays you can easily buy a better card
[18:23] <Leviel> Hairulfr: i have, several times - as much as i understand it
[18:23] <Leviel> Hairulfr: my network isn't working
[18:23] <adante> anybody use emacs here?
[18:23] <cellofellow> joshwa: you have a limit of 4 primary or extended partitions on one PC hard drive. You can have as many as you want with logicals inside extendeds.
[18:23] <Cryoniq> I am asking because I have the nvidia in another box. Thinking if moving that one over to this one will save me some hours trying to resolve this ati mayhem
[18:23] <adante> i am having trouble with console emacs just doing... nothing when i try to run it
[18:23] <PovAddict> adante: #emacs
[18:23] <Hairulfr> Leviel: what kind of network is it?
[18:23] <Leviel> Hairulfr: umm, i'm running a network cable to a hub (at home), and from there to the ADSL router
[18:23] <molnitza> @tatters: that i have did. But I get only Errors
[18:23] <Hairulfr> Leviel: 'Card
[18:23] <Vlet> Leviel: Is it wireless, wired, modem?
[18:23] <adante> PovAddict: heh good idea
[18:24] <jshriver> greetings
[18:24] <Leviel> Vlet: it's not wireless... i suppose it's wired
[18:24] <joshwa> cellofellow: I made my root partition primary and my home partition primary and my swap logical. my previous setup had my swap space as a primary also...I just don't know which is preferred...
[18:24] <jshriver> how long till the mirrors are up with Gibbin?
[18:24] <Hairulfr> Leviel: What kind of computer do you have, laptop, desktop?
[18:24] <jshriver> getting 16k on a T1 line lol
[18:24] <Leviel> laptop, toshiba
[18:24] <Pici> jshriver: they should be up
[18:24] <cellofellow> joshwa: neither, I think, except for the amount limit.
[18:24] <sparr_> I am having trouble with my network connection.  All indications (ifconfig, link lights, etc) are that it is working fine, but I cannot actually get any network traffic to work.  dhclient sends out requests and gets nothing back.  ping tells me the network is unreachable if I don't have the interface configured, and when I manually configure it I get a weird situation where the 2nd/3rd/4th of each 4 packets are Destination Host Unreachable, and
[18:25] <and1> im only getting 40k
[18:25] <Leviel> i checked earlier, i think it detects my network card, but not sure
[18:25] <Terrasque> jshriver: ive heard good rumors about torrent speed
[18:25] <and1> :\
[18:25] <Pici> sparr_: try disabling ipv6 if you dont need it.
[18:25] <joshwa> cellofellow: so it's going to use my swap space when memory is low no matter which I choose?
[18:25] <Pici> !ipv6 > sparr_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:25] <cellofellow> joshwa: yep.
[18:25] <jshriver> Terrasque: aye but I'm doing a system update not a ISO download
[18:25] <tech0007> hi! have a problem while installing gutsy. after the restart, it brings up a blank screen w/ a bouncing Hz? box. when i go to console, i only see 'Setting up encryption on volume hda5_crypt....', it just hang there and its been there for 55! mins! i need help!
[18:25] <joshwa> THANK YOU
[18:25] <Leviel> Hairulfr: i can tell you what it said, but i can't get onto ubuntu without shutting down windows, so i need some quidance
[18:25] <jshriver> can you do system updates over torrent?!
[18:25] <Pici> jshriver: not yet.
[18:25] <thingfish> there are good mirrors out there - I just got it at average 790
[18:25] <jshriver> nice
[18:25] <Leviel> Hairulfr: it had two "network devices" - a "loopback interface" and an "ethernet interface"
[18:25] <Terrasque> jshriver: you could download the iso and then do an update from that one
[18:25] <dryrot> are the actual .deb files somewhere on the ubuntu install live cd ?
[18:25] <SNy> Hey, I have problems with the xorg mga driver in gutsy.
[18:25] <PovAddict> jshriver: you could download alternate CD over torrent and use it as an update source
[18:26] <bulmer> sparr: you're using wired connections?
[18:26] <Vlet> Leviel: Well, if it doesn't then you'll have to find out what model of network card you have, and search for info on getting it working in ubuntu, if it DOES detect it, then it's just soemthing not right with yout settings
[18:26] <PovAddict> dryrot: no
[18:26] <sparr_> Pici: I did an "ifconfig eth0 del [my ipv6 addr]", will try your way next
[18:26] <dryrot> Terrasque: how do i do that?
[18:26] <jshriver> good point will give that a shot
[18:26] <Leviel> Vlet: how do i check that
[18:26] <sparr_> bulmer: yes
[18:26] <Pici> !mirrors > thingfish (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:26] <Jake_001> NICK jake
[18:26] <jshriver> second question, why do some packages have -nox at the end?
[18:26] <aaron87> >	quick question, I've installed an ATI Radeon 9250 video card, and my computer came with an on-board intel video card, why is it that I cant use the ATI card as a second monitor?
[18:26] <PovAddict> dryrot: I think the squashfs file has it as if it was installed
[18:26] <and1> can i download an iso and use it as a source with out having to burn it to disk?
[18:26] <generalsnus> Pici: i redid all the steps after i downloaded all you said..and it installed without any problem  but when i do nvclock command.. i dont get any gui for it..
[18:26] <PovAddict> dryrot: no .debs
[18:26] <bulmer> sparr: do you know if the cable is good?
[18:26] <PovAddict> and1: yes if it is alternate
[18:26] <Terrasque> dryrot: if you insert it ubuntu should ask you to upgrade from it. if not, add cd to sources :)
[18:26] <jshriver> aaron87: the BIOS disables onboard when another is put in
[18:26] <PovAddict> and1: not desktop
[18:26] <Pici> generalsnus: Is there a gui? I'm not familiar with that tool
[18:26] <RvGaTe^live> anyone ?
[18:26] <SNy> Lots of problem reports exist for edgy, haven't found any for gutsy yet.
[18:27] <sparr_> bulmer: it works elsewhere, and worked on this machine yesterday
[18:27] <Hairulfr> aaron87: Uh, you wanna use both the intel and the ati at the same time??
[18:27] <and1> PovAddict: i would have to burn it to a disk?
[18:27] <danielbw> Has Gutsy fixed the problem with the wifi problems?
[18:27] <SNy> Is there a backport of the 1.9.100 mga driver available somewhere?
[18:27] <aaron87> yeah!
[18:27] <Terrasque> and1: well, you could, actually.. But its more work than you'd want to do I think ;)
[18:27] <rquinn> does anyone know if kubuntu gutsy has xgl and compiz fusion running by default out of the box?
[18:27] <bulmer> sparr: do you know if the cable is good?  you verified this how?
[18:27] <PovAddict> and1: you could mount the .iso
[18:27] <sparr_> danielbw: technically wouldnt problems with problems be a good thing?
[18:27] <and1> im not lazy
[18:27] <Pici> rquinn: no iirc.
[18:27] <sparr_> bulmer: it works with another machine
[18:27] <danielbw> I was using the beta version of gutsy gibbon and my ipw3495 was not working with it at all
[18:27] <dryrot> so after i mount the ubuntu alternate iso, how do i upgrade ?
[18:27] <DShepherd> rquinn, i doubt it. but you can ask in #kubuntu
[18:27] <Pici> !compiz-#kubuntu > rquinn
[18:27] <rquinn> ok
[18:27] <aaron87> is it possible to use both ATI and on-board?
[18:27] <rquinn> thx
[18:27] <akorn> what's the file name that has all the repositores in it??
[18:28] <sparr_> aaron87: depends on your motherboard, BIOS specifically.
[18:28] <sparr_> akorn: /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:28] <aaron87> Ive done it on windows.
[18:28] <bulmer> sparr: which brand of nic card do you have?
[18:28] <PovAddict> akorn: sources.list?
[18:28] <aaron87> same machine
[18:28] <lungtoys> I'm trying to install a theme engine, and when i try and ./configure it
[18:28] <akorn> thank you haha
[18:28] <Terrasque> and1: mount the iso, copy out the deb files, and make a repository from them is one way. doing "dpkg -i *" and hope for the best is .. one other (not recommended)
[18:28] <sparr_> bulmer: onboard intel i think
[18:28] <akorn> can't beieve i forgot that
[18:28] <Hairulfr> aaron87: I don't know, but I'm very sure you can't do that.
[18:28] <Pici> !enter
[18:28] <tatters> molnitza: can you cd to the Module folder again and post what error u get with the make command dont try to build just yet
[18:28] <sparr_> aaron87: then yes
[18:28] <akorn> sparr: thanks!
[18:28] <and1> O.O sounds fun but hard
[18:28] <akorn> PovAddict: thanks!
[18:28] <aaron87> Hairfurl: thanks
[18:28] <Hairulfr> aaron87: Unless one is AGP/PCI-E/PCI
[18:28] <JuJuBee> Is there a way to set the perms on a directory so anything put into teh dir is owned by the owner of the dir?
[18:29] <blubloblu> what's the difference between the DVD and CD?
[18:29] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:29] <Hairulfr> aaron87: They can't run on same bus
[18:29] <bulmer> sparr: can you pastebin your ifconfig -a or ip a ?
[18:29] <PovAddict> JuJuBee: chmod has a recursive switch
[18:29] <RvGaTe^live> Hey, i wanted to try out the new shiny ubuntu.... installed it without any problems using the live cd... but whenever i boot... i get the following message all the time: "[   xxxxx] ata3.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40), and it keeps giving me that message... i cant do anything, no console... how do i fix this?
[18:29] <garu> why can't I join ubuntu+1 channel?
[18:29] <sparr_> blubloblu: DVD has more packages on it.
[18:29] <Leviel> i think my network card is a "Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC"?
[18:29] <lungtoys> When i try to ./configure a theme engine, i get this error: configure: error: GTK+-2.10 is required to compile
[18:29] <aaron87> the ATI card is AGP
[18:29] <sparr_> bulmer: i could if i had network connectivity...
[18:29] <Hairulfr> aaron87: And they should run the same drivers,
[18:29] <Pici> garu: it redirects here, theres no use for it right now
[18:29] <JuJuBee> I do not want to chmodl, I want it to happen automagically.
[18:29] <Terrasque> RvGaTe^live: same on safe boot?
[18:29] <bulmer> sparr: you have one now, you're on mirc..
[18:29] <aaron87> oh, okay!
[18:29] <dogwater> i like the jello windows :D
[18:29] <Hairulfr> aaron87: Then the intel is probably agp as well
[18:29] <bulmer> err irc
[18:29] <foxiness> Add: 1GB or 2GB of RAM, Current System : 256+256 laptop with 1.4Ghz centreno any recommended ?
[18:29] <PovAddict> JuJuBee: ahh... try ##linux?
[18:29] <sparr_> bulmer: yes, from another machine.
[18:29] <JuJuBee> Thanks
[18:29] <lungtoys> is there a GTK/gnome help?
[18:29] <blubloblu> sparr_: useful ones? as in, should I bother with the extra 4GB?
[18:30] <aaron87> the intel is on-board
[18:30] <ePax> Is tehere a difference between updating 7.04 to 7.10 or clean install 7.10?
[18:30] <bulmer> sparr: then please, do copy, and pastebin,
[18:30] <aaron87> I'll just have to save up money for a better video card
[18:30] <sparr_> blubloblu: only if youre installing away from broadband.  if you have good internet you can just get the packages you need off the internet after the install
[18:30] <Tomcat_> ePax: Yes.
[18:30] <sparr_> bulmer: no.
[18:30] <DShepherd> ePax, yes. one updates. one is a clean install. but all should end the same place
[18:30] <Hairulfr> aaron87: Yes, but it still runs uses a bus
[18:30] <Hairulfr> *- Runs
[18:30] <sgonzalez> Yikes! Big issue (for me at least :)... please help!! With the help of a friend, I found out that I was running the generic kernel on edubuntu 7.04, thus only seeing 3GB of my 6GB of RAM. So we installed the server kernel, ran updates, etc. On a server that we really weren't crashing on at all, we started crashing like crazy (2-3 times/day). I put the generic kernel back in, and we're back to functioning fine. Any thoughts?! I could really use some he
[18:30] <sgonzalez> lp here! Thanks.
[18:30] <jmw> When I try to install with the gutsy live cd, the partition tool doesn't see any of the existing partitions, however they are all listed under "places"
[18:30] <garu> Pici humn...I need some help on it...I'v intalled the ubuntu 7.10 candidate release today morning, and its just doing updates right now, how do I upgrade to the final version, and also, is it good to do that?
[18:30] <lungtoys> What's the difference between GTK themes, metacity themes, and are there compiz-fusion themes???
[18:30] <akorn> Does anybody know why i get this when i use update manager:   Could Not Download All Repository Indexes (and then there's a list of non-downloads including this): http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[18:31] <Terrasque> ePax: ideally, no. Practically, yes :p one big difference is that you will still have the old config files for your user
[18:31] <aaron87> yeah, but atleast I'll be able to use one card for two monitors?
[18:31] <ninnemana> can anyone tell me how to play/burn .shn files?
[18:31] <aaron87> make things simple.
[18:31] <Pici> !final > garu (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:31] <benanzo> where do I find what driver versions are provided in restricted-modules?  I want to know what version madwifi ships with Gutsy
[18:31] <sparr_> akorn: one of your non-standard repositories is offline
[18:31] <Nookie^> akorn: maybe that file doesnt exist anymore
[18:31] <aaron87> right now Im using the Intel on-board
[18:31] <Hairulfr> aaron87: If you have two outputs, yes
[18:31] <PMantis> akorn: run    apt-get update
[18:31] <Pici> akorn: because that repo doesnt exist.
[18:31] <aaron87> hairulfr: yup
[18:32] <RvGaTe^live> anyone? hello?
[18:32] <akorn> how do i figure out with repo it is so that i can remove it?
[18:32] <aaron87> I mean, the one I'll buy will have that
[18:32] <genii> !info madwifi gutsy| benanzo
[18:32] <Pici> akorn: its http://packages.freecontrib.org
[18:32] <ubotu> benanzo: Package madwifi does not exist in gutsy
[18:32] <f0rgeIf`> um
[18:32] <akorn> Pici: thanks a lot :)
[18:32] <f0rgeIf`> anyone know how I can rotate the cube with compiz ?:x
[18:32] <Nookie^> To bad that they didnt implement automount ISO files like in MAC to be able to see them on desktop or in filemanager
[18:32] <Terrasque> akorn: I am doing a wild guess that its the one in the error message :)
[18:32] <ePax> So actually its kinda same thing. Just if I update to 7.10 some configs will remain from 7.04? But looking from security aspects its kinda same thing?
[18:32] <akorn> Pici: yea actually that's the thign...i can't find that under sources.list..?
[18:33] <Pici> akorn: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[18:33] <akorn> how do i pastebin?
[18:33] <benanzo> genii: thanks but it's provded with restricted-modules which doesn't state the individual versions of the drivers it includes
[18:33] <akorn> Pici: haha how do i pastebin?
[18:33] <Pici> !paste | akorn
[18:33] <ubotu> akorn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:33] <Terrasque> ePax: yes. Again, ideally. If you have 3rd party packages or in some cases special config of the system, things can go plink
[18:33] <akorn> ~paste | akorn
[18:33] <akorn> ?
[18:33] <akorn> !paste | akorn
[18:33] <Pici> akorn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[18:33] <Vlet> f0rgeIf`: Do you have the advanced settings manager installed?
[18:33] <ePax> Terrasque: Oki.
[18:33] <akorn> ahh okay haha
[18:34] <DShepherd> f0rgeIf`, install compizconfig-settings-manager. run ccsm and select the cube plugin Alt+ctrl+ left or right arrow should be nice
[18:34] <aaron87> thanks much! Congratulations to everyone on 7.10!
[18:34] <Jimdb> which version of compiz is being installed under 7.10?
[18:34] <akorn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41093/
[18:34] <akorn> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41093/
[18:34] <aaron87> I cant get dual monitors to work yet but, I'd rather use one than not use ubuntu at all!
[18:34] <PovAddict> 15 seconds left for desktop download!
[18:34] <wastedfluid> hello.. just downloaded+installed the 7.10 cd.. and now my adept manager says I have a distro upgrade?
[18:35] <Pici> akorn: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:35] <akorn> Pici: 7.04
[18:35] <kritzstapf> azureus closes right after showing the main window, whats wrong?
[18:35] <DShepherd> Jimb, 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1
[18:35] <geefinator> aaron87:  Unless you are magical you probably wont be getting it to work.  I couldn't  I just went back to feisty.
[18:35] <Jimdb> thank you.
[18:35] <Vlet> kritzstapf: launch it from a terminal instead, and it should show some errors or something
[18:35] <Terrasque> kritzstapf: start it in the terminal and see if it gives any errors
[18:35] <Atlantiz> try left click and drag and see it works
[18:35] <DShepherd> Jimdb, your welcome
[18:35] <Pici> akorn: Remove or comment out likes 5-9
[18:35] <and1> sounds like gutsy isnt so great
[18:35] <and1> :\
[18:35] <Pici> akorn: lines rather
[18:35] <akorn> Pici: you're going to kill me i thin the repos are at the top of the list and Ctrl F didn't find it haha :|
[18:36] <Vlet> aaron87: What type of vid card do you have?
[18:36] <wastedfluid> yeah, it's confusing me.. i just installed the 7.10 cd download from this morning, and it says I have a distro upgrade.
[18:36] <aaron87> geefinator: both cards work, and I'm able to display on each of them... just not the same time
[18:36] <Urigeller> where can I find the error-logs of ACPI in Ubuntu (suspend/hibernate since upgrade broken, sort of..)?
[18:36] <TopoMorto> hi people:) is this the right place to ask about the upgrade of a ununtu server from Feisty to Gusty ?
[18:36] <Crozar>  i have a problem on installing fresh install , the cd gives me I/O boot error ( Reboot ) , i get the main page where it asks to choose start install OEM install safe check cd for defects and memory test
[18:36] <Bonzodog> PovAddict: yes, adept can see the repos have the new release waiting - it's up to you, either upgrade over the net, or clean install using the CD
[18:36] <Vlet> TopoMorto: yes
[18:36] <aaron87> Vlet: ATI 9250 and onboard Intel on a Dell :-(
[18:36] <Pici> Urigeller: /var/log/dmesg
[18:36] <geefinator> aaron87:  Ah you are running two cards.  I have a dual head ati.  I got them to clone, but could not for the life of me get it to stretch.
[18:37] <and1> TopoMorto: system,admin,update manager
[18:37] <PovAddict> Bonzodog: huh?
[18:37] <Vlet> aaron87: ooh... nevermind - I dunoh :)
[18:37] <akorn> Pici: thanks a lot for the patience haha
[18:37] <aaron87> hahahaha
[18:37] <jmw> what does the installer use for manual partition editing? parted?
[18:37] <PovAddict> Bonzodog: wrong person?
[18:37] <DShepherd> Crozar, I think you need to burn another cd
[18:37] <aaron87> I'll post in the forums. Im a noob
[18:37] <aaron87> hahaha
[18:37] <Bonzodog> PovAddict: you can upgrade to gutsy over the internet
[18:37] <Crozar> DShepherd: i bunred and lowest speed
[18:37] <adante> uh so
[18:37] <PovAddict> Bonzodog: did I ask??
[18:37] <Azzkikr> im upgrading through the package manager at this moment
[18:37] <DShepherd> Crozar, ok. bad burn maybe. try another..
[18:37] <Crozar> DShepherd: and my K3B says md5sum is checked fully i even compared to the original same thing d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c
[18:37] <Vlet> aaron87: I can be done... keep searching and trying
[18:38] <Bonzodog> sorry
[18:38] <Bonzodog> wrong person
[18:38] <Vlet> aaron87: I mean, IT can be done
[18:38] <aaron87> thanks Vlet
[18:38] <nemo_work> hey folks.  I'm on a machine with a shortage of free drive space.  I was wondering how long ubuntu retains packages.
[18:38] <Pici> Crozar: Try the alternate CD
[18:38] <DShepherd> Crozar, i suspect something is wrong with cd burn
[18:38] <Crozar> actually pici knows about this laptop cd hardware something to do with a bug i dunno what but i have reported it
[18:38] <TopoMorto> Vlet: i'm upgrading a server, so "sudo do-release-upgrade"..... respone no new release aviable...
[18:38] <Urigeller> Pici: nothing else? I've taken a look at dmesg and it didn't provide me the infos I was searching for..
[18:38] <PovAddict> nemo_work: sudo apt-get clean
[18:38] <tork> all the mirrors are clogged. :(
[18:38] <geefinator> I think it is rather ironic that dual monitors was suppose to be *easy* in 7.10 and as far as I can tell it is not at all.
[18:38] <aaron87> Vlet: I'll keep looking
[18:38] <giorgo1> hallo das mounten zu nfs- scheint nicht mehr zu funktionieren. Weis jemand warum? Ich bekomme immer ein time out. nfs-common und portmap sind installiert
[18:38] <nemo_work> PovAddict: isn't that just for uninstalling?
[18:38] <sparr_> Pici: blacklist ipv6 did not help
[18:38] <Bonzodog> wastedfluid: yes, adept can see the repos have the new release waiting - it's up to you, either upgrade over the net, or clean install using the CD
[18:38] <Pici> Crozar: I can't possibly remember every bug that I've spoken to people about
[18:38]  * N3bunel saluta
[18:38] <Jo3> hi, I just installed VLC, and im trying to find it within the root partition, to direct mozilla to always use it for a certain file type, how would I find VLC's location? Thanks
[18:38] <nemo_work> I was wondering about caching of .debs - does clean handle that too?
[18:38] <Crozar> DShepherd: the problem is other computers can read it and my start up reads it and even windows but ubuntu beta cant lol
[18:38] <PovAddict> nemo_work: clean doesn't uninstall anything
[18:38] <Pici> !de | giorgo1
[18:38] <ubotu> giorgo1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:38] <Crytor> Do I have to reinstall my complete ubuntu installation when installing 7.10 ??
[18:38] <kritzstapf> Vlet, Terrasque: it fails loading azupdater :/
[18:38] <nemo_work> PovAddict: ah. 'k.
[18:39] <PovAddict> nemo_work: see the help if in doubt
[18:39] <DShepherd> Crozar, oh.
[18:39] <Terrasque> TopoMorto: start up your favorite editor and hack away at /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:39] <nemo_work> aight
[18:39] <PovAddict> nemo_work: apt-get --help
[18:39] <Vlet> TopoMorto: Do you have a gui on the server? I've heard that simply using apt to do the upgrade is not a good thing... the upgrade-manager tool does more than just apt alone will
[18:39] <Crozar> well i might remove this cd drive and buy a DVD R , i wish to know something that will be capable for ubuntu before getting it
[18:39] <avsa242> Have a strange one: Network activity *extremely* latent/slow in X (i.e. many dropped packets/long rtt's), yet in a vc is slick as snot. broadcom 4311v1, ndiswrapper 1.39 and 1.45 (2.6.20-15 leftover feisty kernel in gutsy, 2.6.22-14 also in gutsy-not really a viable option - something wrong with intel drm module/xserver)
[18:39] <PovAddict> agh, can't get the .torrent
[18:39] <jimbojw> i installed sun's java 1.5, and just removed it - now I have no java, what's the name of the java package that comes with Ubuntu? is it blackdown?
[18:39] <TopoMorto> Terrasque: subsitute feisty with gusty?
[18:40] <Bonzodog> jimbojw: yes
[18:40] <akorn> Anybody know how to disable tooltips when you hover over icons in a panel?
[18:40] <giorgo1> hello a mount to nfs is not working anymore allways I receive a time out. nfs-common and protmap are installed. Can someone help?
[18:40] <darkdevil> c'è qualche italiano nel canale?
[18:40] <jimbojw> thanks Bonzodog
[18:40] <Jovaro> after upgrading to gutsy I get a black screen and nothing works, does someone have an idea on this?
[18:40] <Terrasque> TopoMorto: yes, and run an update after, see if anything complains
[18:40] <pike_> !alternatives | jimbojw might help
[18:40] <ubotu> jimbojw might help: To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[18:40] <TopoMorto> Vlet: im' not using a gui on this server :))
[18:40] <sparr_> bulmer: http://rafb.net/p/wTJ0DB53.html
[18:40] <Skelet0n> if i had probs with 7.04, should i get the alternate 7.10 cd? and 32bit or 64bit?
[18:40] <slayerman> hi everyone
[18:40] <Pici> !fr | darkdevil
[18:40] <ubotu> darkdevil: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:40] <Bonzodog> Jovaro: it could be your graphics card?
[18:40] <Crytor> Do I have to reinstall my complete ubuntu installation when installing 7.10 ??
[18:40] <pike_> Crytor: no
[18:40] <jimbojw> thanks pike_
[18:40] <pike_> !update | Crytor
[18:40] <ubotu> Crytor: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:40] <Pici> Crytor: no, follow the upgrade instructions
[18:40] <DanaG> Wow, I just got one of those NVIDIA lockups for 30 seconds.
[18:40] <akorn> Skelet0n: there shoudl be a lot of fixes for problems in 7.10
[18:41] <fiXXXerMe1> Could I use something like dd to backup my entire server and then reinstall it (going from hardware raid to software raid) ?
[18:41] <Jovaro> Bonzodog, it worked fine with Feisty.. it is an Nvidia 7600 GS
[18:41] <Crozar> DShepherd: my laptop on feisty when i insert any cd i can read , when i write i can read my written data later on , but after i updated its a mess , i cant read my written data but i can still write and after writing when putting back  same cd thats written it thinks its  an empty cd lol , never mind i thought its a bug error from beta gutsy thats why i want to install fresh install ,and the problem when inserting cd it gives me I/O error be
[18:41] <Crozar> fore that the cd tries to read the system freezes for 4 minutes then i get that error to reboot
[18:41] <Vlet> TopoMorto: yeah, I've heard (from Pici) that simply updating your sources and running apt-get dist-upgrade may cause problems
[18:41] <RantingHuman> !ubuntu
[18:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[18:41] <Vlet> TopoMorto: but this is all hear-say
[18:41] <RantingHuman> !gutsy
[18:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[18:41] <RantingHuman> !torrents
[18:41] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[18:41] <Crytor> Pici: ok, thanks
[18:41] <Skelet0n> so i should get normal then?
[18:41] <Pici> !msgthebot | RantingHuman
[18:41] <bulmer> sparr: when you type dhclient eth0  what responses are you getting?
[18:41] <ubotu> RantingHuman: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[18:41] <Skelet0n> and 32 or 64?
[18:41] <Bonzodog> Jovaro: have the drivers been re-installed after upgrade?
[18:41] <PovAddict> Skelet0n: is your computer 32 or 64?
[18:41] <Terrasque> Vlet: it has worked fine for earlier releases, at least
[18:41] <DShepherd> 7 hours from my ugrade to be finished. I think its time to download the alternate cd and upgrade from that
[18:41] <Bonzodog> from restricted
[18:41] <monkey_instinct> how do i do an upgrade from the cd installation?
[18:42] <pike_> Skelet0n: use 32 unless you have a compelling reason to use 64bit
[18:42] <PovAddict> monkey_instinct: do you have alternate CD?
[18:42] <lotia> anyone using the compiz and emerald manager applets instead of the desktop effects control panel?
[18:42] <Skelet0n> ok thanks
[18:42] <Jovaro> Bonzodog, I am not sure, should I try to re-install the nvidia-glx-new package?
[18:42] <Skelet0n> and i should bure at 4x rite?
[18:42] <PovAddict> monkey_instinct: or desktop?
[18:42] <TopoMorto> im tryong manual update so :)))
[18:42] <Vlet> Terrasque: I have a gui-less server that eventually I might like to install... I'll just cross my fingers as well :)
[18:42] <pavs> my md5 sum is 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0 is that right? :)
[18:42] <Crozar> should i download another copy because maybe netherland mirror had a problem then
[18:42] <Bonzodog> Jovaro: yes, try that
[18:42] <RantingHuman> Pici: Was just trying get a link to the torrent
[18:42] <TopoMorto> *tryng
[18:42] <sladok> gostivar
[18:42] <monkey_instinct> PovAddict: I don't really know what that mean?
[18:42] <PovAddict> pavs: for what iso?
[18:42] <Crozar> pavs: what kind of md5sum is that lo
[18:42] <sparr_> bulmer: what i usually see when the network is out.  3 lines of IPXXXX stuff, then progressively slower DHCPREQUEST and DHCPANNOUNCE (?) attempts, with no responses
[18:42] <adante> hi folks, i need to clean up some space in my /boot, is it safe to delete the  vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic files?
[18:42] <Vlet> RantingHuman: http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu-cd/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[18:42] <PovAddict> monkey_instinct: there is desktop, alternate, and server CDs
[18:43] <pavs> dvd iso :)
[18:43] <monkey_instinct> PovAddict: I have the desktop installation cd of Gusty
[18:43] <RantingHuman> Vlet, thx
[18:43] <PovAddict> you can't upgrade from desktop cd
[18:43] <Crytor>  Linux ules
[18:43] <Crytor> rules
[18:43] <PovAddict> afaik
[18:43] <giorgo1> no one has an idea?
[18:43] <monkey_instinct> Then how?
[18:43] <PovAddict> well, can't use it as an apt source...
[18:43] <pike_> adante: if you arent booting it yes.  uname -a in term to check but you can also remove it in synaptic cleanly
[18:43] <Crozar> is the torrent download good to go?
[18:43] <RantingHuman> Vlet, isn't that the RC?
[18:43] <Terrasque> Vlet: ive done from dapper to feisty on my server, no problem :) (and that box have seen a lot of abus.. ehm testing)
[18:43] <Crozar> i will redownload and retry hope it works
[18:43] <Crozar> cya's
[18:43] <Vlet> RantingHuman: ooh! oops
[18:43] <monkey_instinct> PovAddict: I have to download the alternate version?
[18:43] <knofi> hi
[18:43] <RantingHuman> Vlet, nvm, got it :)
[18:43] <bulmer> sparr:  i suspect your cable is bad, it is not communicating to the router, or the port itself..look for hints of led status
[18:44] <adante> pike_: oh okay, thanks
[18:44] <Vspike_> Anyone know how much has changed between RC and final? I have an RC alternative CD and was thinking of upgrading to that, then updating online to save downloading (and loading up the servers)
[18:44] <Crozar> PovAddict: alternate version is for what btw?
[18:44] <balor> !torrent
[18:44] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[18:44] <adante> pike_: i'll leave it to things smarter than me (synaptic) then :P
[18:44] <Pici> Vspike_: not much, I suspect thats safe
[18:44] <brandon> I just tried to do the upgrade from Feisty Server to Gutsy Server. It says "No new release". What do I do?
[18:44] <knofi> how can i turn off my computer by pressing ctrl+alt+del?
[18:44] <Crozar> Vspike_: get torrent and download by torrent that wont load the servers
[18:44] <Vlet> brandon: run: sudo update-manager -d
[18:44] <PovAddict> 4k seeds 5.4k peers
[18:44] <brandon> Vlet this is Server, not Desktop
[18:44] <pike_> knofi: alt-ctrl-backspace will restart and take you to login then you can click shutdown i guess
[18:45] <Vspike_> Crozar: true, but I only get about 40-50k a second, so still keen to download the min possible
[18:45] <knofi> pike_, thats not what i want to do...
[18:45] <pike_> knofi: not youre question though ;-p
[18:45] <MartinW> knofi: System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts
[18:45] <shmoolikipod> hello
[18:45] <sparr_> bulmer: LEDs are normal.  solid link, intermittently blinking activity.
[18:45] <shmoolikipod> i can't connect to the internet
[18:45] <sparr_> bulmer: on the router and the PC
[18:45] <shmoolikipod> with the new ubuntu
[18:45] <Skelet0n> and i should burn at 4x rite?
[18:45] <knofi> i do speak of  tty1 to 6
[18:45] <shmoolikipod> how can i configure my network ?
[18:46] <brandon> exit
[18:46] <adac2> hi! I installed the original java from sun over apt. Now how do I set the JAVA_HOME variable?
[18:46] <knofi> normally i get an reboot but i want to launch /sbin/halt
[18:46] <knofi> old version: edit the /etc/inittab
[18:46] <Skelet0n> i should burn at 4x rite?
[18:46] <knofi> but theres no inittab any more
[18:46] <sparr_> I want to upgrade from pre-release gutsy to release gutsy using the gutsy CD.  how?
[18:47] <MartinW> knofi: Though lock screen is the closest shortcut to edit.
[18:47] <ebirtaid> fn'Skelet0n: yes
[18:47] <Jovaro> Bonzodog, that didn't do the trick, I tried to use driver = "nv" and "VESA" in xorg.conf as well but black then as well
[18:47] <RvGaTe^live> Hey, i wanted to try out the new shiny ubuntu.... installed it without any problems using the live cd... but whenever i boot... i get the following message all the time: "[   xxxxx] ata3.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40), and it keeps giving me that message... i cant do anything, no console... how do i fix this?
[18:47] <gspr> Hi. I ran an upgrade of Feisty to Gutsy using the prescribed method for Kubuntu. At the end of the update process, at the part where obsolete packages are removed during the cleanup, the updater started hogging more and more memory, going beyond 90%. After a while, I noticed it gave the message "update-manager crashing..." and then X hung and I had to reboot. Gutsy came up fine, but adept still reports a new version being available. How do I fix
[18:47] <bulmer> sparr  can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:47] <sbucatino> sparr_:  i thik you use synaptic and fetch update then maybe there is : new version
[18:47] <Cryoniq_> ghost: any luck yet? :)
[18:47] <sbucatino> sparr_: not sure
[18:47] <sparr_> bulmer: i would really rather not, it was a pain in the ass to transcript 'ip a'
[18:48] <sparr_> sbucatino: im using the CD, not the internet
[18:48] <nicholas> RvGaTe^live: might be a kernel/chipset problem. google the error?
[18:48] <knofi> well, MartinW i know how to turn off my computer from the graphical environment...
[18:48] <bulmer> sparr: okay, then i cant help you anymore..i guess badly
[18:48] <Crozar> ok i hope it will work
[18:48] <apecat> hmm, i just did something with the compiz thing, i got the windows to line up on the desktop in thumbnails. i just don't know i did it? can anyone enlighten me?
[18:48] <knofi> but i want it to turn off on the console by pressing ctrl+alt+del
[18:48] <Crozar> let me try again
[18:48] <sparr_> bulmer: im going to try upgrading to gutsy if i can get the cd and upgrade from that
[18:48] <bulmer> sparr good luck
[18:49] <sam_> am i alone in not being able to upgrade to gutsy
[18:49] <sam_> ?
[18:49] <knofi> apecat, thats easy... just enable active corners
[18:49] <sam_> im getting a gzip error every time i try the update
[18:50] <sdrowkcab> hello
[18:50] <knofi> well i think i have to wait a week or two until it is much more quiet in here^^
[18:50] <DShepherd> 1563 and counting..
[18:50] <nicholas> sam_: bad repository?
[18:50] <jimbojw> knofi: it's not always this busy? :)
[18:50] <sam_> irish ubuntu repository?
[18:50] <sdrowkcab> why can't i boot after updating gutsy?
[18:51] <Terrasque> jimbojw: actually now i can read what people write. Its quieter than normal :)
[18:51] <sparr_> is there a PPC iso for gutsy?
[18:51] <nicholas> sam_: whats the error message?
[18:51] <tatters> gutsy alternative you can encrypt hard drive they  call it EFS which also is name of windows technology do acronyms count when it comes to copyright??/
[18:51] <knofi> Jimbojw, afaik it isnt
[18:51] <PovAddict> sparr_: I think Ubuntu has never had PPC
[18:51] <sam_> 2 secs im trying it again so i can c&p
[18:51] <nosrednaekim> I think we need a little elbow room in here!
[18:51] <aardvark4> For reasons unknown to me, the update to gutsy failed during the package installations.  it said "Could not install upgrades.  The upgrade aborts now.  Your system could be in an unusable state.  A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a)."  It seems only a partial upgrade has occurred, then.  Is this salvageable, or should I just install cleanly from the cd/dvd and then reinstall all of the software?
[18:51] <Terrasque> tatters: wild guess : Encrypted File System
[18:51] <sparr_> tatters: since you don't know the difference in copyright and trademark, you should probably just ignore the subject.
[18:51] <sam_> Failed to fetch http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[18:51] <jimbojw> despite the huge continuous wave of posts, both questions I've asked today have been answered - so i have to give high marks to the chan regulars
[18:51] <Flats> •sdrowkcab• whats the error or problem?
[18:52] <sparr_> PovAddict: I think you are wrong, since I gave out PPC Ubuntu 6.x CDs for christma
[18:52] <sdrowkcab> ah
[18:52] <sdrowkcab> it shows the ubuntu logo and thats it
[18:52] <tatters> sparr_: hence the Q
[18:52] <Borzo> hello, why is the network method recommended for upgrade? can't an upgrade use some of the files from a CD and some that are missing from the repos?
[18:52] <bulmer> what is it that people are after by upgrading to gutsy?
[18:52] <Terrasque> PovAddict: ubuntu had ppc :) I even have a cd here to prove it
[18:52] <sparr_> bulmer: working network after ubuntu+1 broke it  :)
[18:52] <dooglus> bulmer: nothing special, I don't think.  just having 'the latest' I guess
[18:52] <DShepherd> Borzo, and alternate cd can be used. yes
[18:52] <Cryoniq_> wish this dang ati driver and screen config crap would end very soon... =(
[18:53] <p512o> when upgrading from feisty to gutsy via alternate cd, do i have to brun the iso or can i just mount it via loopback?
[18:53] <mobodo> is there an easy way to grow the /boot partition? I have root right afterward, so it shouldn't be a problem, but the partition editor won't let me modify the /boot partition (it shows it as locked)
[18:53] <sam_> is there still hassle with ati drivers in gutsy?!
[18:53] <Flats> •sdrowkcab• what happens if you try ctrl+alt+backspace?
[18:53] <TunaTom> bulmer: I upgraded because I wanted to test the ticless kernel
[18:53] <Flats> I think thats it
[18:53] <Borzo> DShepherd: - so when the installer encounters a package that is in need of upgrading but it's not on the CD, will it look in the repos automatically?
[18:53] <kom0dor> Hey everyone
[18:53] <Terrasque> mobodo: because it is in use now. Unmount it, or boot with live cd
[18:53] <Cryoniq_> sam no kidding.. =(
[18:53] <sdrowkcab> some times it says it failed to mount the file system
[18:53] <sam_> damn it
[18:53] <DShepherd> p512o, i think you can mount it. it shoudn;t matter
[18:53] <mobodo> Terrasque: ok, I'll try to unmount it
[18:53] <sparr_> TunaTom: ive been using the new kernel in ubuntu+1 for a bit now, i think it really helps with gaming
[18:54] <sdrowkcab> and my only solution is to reinstall ubuntu with the cd
[18:54] <bulmer> okay ..
[18:54] <kom0dor> Just noticed that at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames, Edgy Efts description was "Fire up the crackpipes! (?!)" Is this vandalism?
[18:54] <DShepherd> Borzo, as far as i know yes
[18:54] <getBoa> hey fellas, how do i know whats the fastest repository server ?
[18:54] <Flats> •sdrowkcab• that would definately cause it not to boot
[18:54] <Rodya> can anybody point me to a tutorial for configuring a wireless NIC via the cli?
[18:54] <sparr_> kom0dor its a wiki, look at the revisions, should be obvious
[18:54] <dryrot> what's wrong with crack cocaine ?
[18:54] <sdrowkcab> it happened twice
[18:54] <p512o> thanks DShepherd ! First time I'm upgrading.. So I hope the alternate cd won't be needed immediately on (re-)boot :)
[18:54] <PovAddict> getBoa: that's the holy grail around here
[18:54] <mobodo> I don't think I can unmount /boot :-/
[18:54] <mobodo> guess I'll download a livecd
[18:54] <sdrowkcab> both times that i updated and restarted that happened
[18:54] <TunaTom> sparr_: Well, I couldn't feel much of a difference yet on gameless workloads.
[18:54] <DShepherd> p512o, :-) I hope so too
[18:54] <sdrowkcab> (with the beta)
[18:54] <kom0dor> guifications for gaim + #ubuntu in irc are killing meh
[18:54] <eclecticus> if I want to dual boot XP and Ubuntu and I have two 80 GB SATA HDDs, and one 80 GB IDE HDD how do i set it up.. right now it's not working correctly...i keep getting error 21, and boot disk failure blabla.. something along those lines.. im not sure what im doing anymore
[18:54] <Flats> •sdrowkcab• I'm sorry I may have missed was this an upgrade or fresh install?
[18:55] <dvtorless> what's this trackerd/tracker-extract in 7.10 and why is it using all my cpu time (load 3+)?
[18:55] <dryrot> Rodya: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid ACCESSPOINTNAME ; sudo dhclient eth1
[18:55] <Flats> oops sorry
[18:55] <Cryoniq_> My all so fine ATI9800pro config in feisty with DRI is not working so well in gutsy anymore.. when I scroll text, move window its is slow and if scrolling down on a webpage it wont stop scrolling untill 10 seconds later if not careful lol
[18:55] <DShepherd> kom0dor, turn it off
[18:55] <Rodya> dryrot: i'll try that thanks
[18:55] <nicholas> sam_: go into system administration and use synaptic. turn off universe as repo
[18:55] <Borzo> DShepherd: thanks i have a desktop and notebook for upgrading and i thought it doesn't make sense to overload the servers by getting the same thing twice ( i don't have apt-proxy installed )
[18:55] <sdrowkcab> the fresh install of gutsy beta was no problem
[18:55] <p512o> DShepherd: lol.. we'll see! I'll report back.. that iso torrent is so much faster than upgrading via update-manager :D
[18:55] <Tornado> Hi, i'm installed ubuntu 7.10 I have windows XP installed and I want to format the whole drive thus getting rid of XP. Using the Live CD, i'm at the partioner screen should I choose "Guided - use entire disk" to accomplish this??????????
[18:55] <DShepherd> Borzo, ah ok kool
[18:55] <sam_> nicholas: sweet ill try it
[18:55] <sdrowkcab> but when i update and restart it fails to mount file system
[18:55] <Flats> •sdrowkcab• Its a little out of my league now
[18:55] <sdrowkcab> oh
[18:56] <DShepherd> p512o, yeah i know. i tried upgrading via the net.. not kool!. download the alternate now
[18:56] <nicholas> Tornado: bingo
[18:56] <sdrowkcab> should i try updating since it was relesased today?
[18:56] <nosrednaekim> Tornado: yes
[18:56] <Flats> I thought maybe it was an X issue or something to that effect
[18:56] <Jovaro> After upgrading to gutsy I only get a black screen, where can I look for errors?
[18:56] <Tornado> Ok, thanks
[18:56] <Terrasque> Tornado: correct. Make sure you have backup of everything you want to keep on the disk :)
[18:56] <DShepherd> downloading*
[18:56] <Puppy_> what is a good estimate on how long it will take to upgrade?
[18:56] <garu> one question, I was on the release candidate, and now I did a sudo apt-get update and a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but I'm now trying to install the xserver-xgl, and its asking me for the release candidate cd.can someone help?
[18:56] <hyper_b0le> party
[18:56] <pppoe_dude> Jovaro, black screen with a cursor?
[18:56] <nicholas> Jovaro: horror. search reported bugs
[18:56] <Cryoniq> I am quite clueless what to do now to fix this.. hmm..
[18:56] <Jovaro> without cursor
[18:56] <pppoe_dude> Jovaro, i mean command-line cursor
[18:57] <DShepherd> Puppy_, it all depends on your internet connection.. and the speed of your machine
[18:57] <RichW> I need help with the trident driver. I have a old laptop with a Trident Cyber 9525. I get a fuzzy strip near the bottom on 24 bit mode and in 16bit its not so bad. In 24bit mode, The fuzzy strip goes over any windows open and in 16bit mode it stays in background. Another problem is video's play slow or not at all (only sound)  in 16bit but fine in 24bit.  I am looking for someone to help me fix this, I do think it might be a problem with the xorg driver itse
[18:57] <RichW> lf though.
[18:57] <pppoe_dude> Jovaro, or is it also without a command line cursor?
[18:57] <Jovaro> without anything
[18:57] <desier> hi, i've deleted all windows & linux partitions and now i'm having the grub error on boot.
[18:57] <tronyx>  #ubuntuforums-beginners
[18:57]  * N3bunel brb
[18:57] <Jovaro> I can't switch to anything either
[18:57] <pppoe_dude> Jovaro, what happens when you try a tty?
[18:57] <emet> hey
[18:57] <Jovaro> pppoe_dude,, nothing
[18:57] <Puppy_> DShephered: I have DSL. How long do you think it would take to download this first day?
[18:57] <apecat> knofi: i can't find a setting with that name in the advanced desktop effects dialog
[18:58] <nicholas> Jovaro: what does it say during boot?
[18:58] <pppoe_dude> Jovaro, ok, perhaps this could be a kernel issue, i would try booting from the old kernel (press esc at grub screen) and see if you can boot into it
[18:58] <emet> I just downloaded Ubuntu 4.10 and having problems with my sound card, anyone can help?
[18:58] <PovAddict> emet: that's old
[18:58] <p512o> DShepherd: Yes, would be nice if that torrent/iso option would be announced more prominent on the ubuntu-wiki.. happy downloading then! :) about 50% to go for me still.
[18:58] <PovAddict> :P
[18:58] <sparr_> emet: download 7.10 :)
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> hello people, I have a stupid problem with terminal font.
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> I would like to have smaller font than default one (outside of X),
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> but no boot options seems to work,
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> I've tried with:
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> vga=791 and 795
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr:3 vga=0x31A 0x31B
[18:58] <dogwater> anyone know how to set the hostname in kickstart?
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> after my kernel in menu.lst,
[18:58] <Flats> Well since 7.10 has been released, is there a next version available for testing?
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> my graphics card is nvidia 7600 gt,
[18:58] <emet> oooops
[18:58] <emet> :P
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> and my screen is 1280x1024
[18:58] <Terrasque> !enter
[18:58] <pppoe_dude> Jovaro, otherwise, check your /var/log/syslog for any errors
[18:58] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:58] <sparr_> SomeoneMarcus: try vga=ask
[18:58] <Jovaro> i'll try to boot to the old kernel
[18:58] <emet> Flats, nope not yet
[18:58] <Jovaro> ok will do!
[18:58] <Nookie^> !ati
[18:58] <apecat> knofi: and i had it working just now... just have no idea how i triggered it
[18:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:58] <SomeoneMarcus> sparr_ ok, thanks
[18:58] <lucas> are there known problems with installing ubuntu inside qemu ? I can boot the dapper CD fine, but not the feisty or gutsy ISOs
[18:58] <DShepherd> Puppy_, well I recommended downloading the alternate cd and upgrading from that... that could take worse case 2 hours.. maybe
[18:58] <musikgoat> Flats: Hardy Herron will be next, but its not in dev yet
[18:59] <sparr_> SomeoneMarcus: also, the program SVGATextMode might be a better option for you
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> lucas: use virtualbox
[18:59] <DShepherd> Puppy_, and upgrading another 30-40 mins maybe...
[18:59] <Pirate_Hunter> hi im installing gutsy right now, how do i make gutsy use the existing swap partition that ive got already?
[18:59] <Flats> Gotta love the names
[18:59] <mobodo> can I get an ubuntu iso using bittorrent?
[18:59] <emet> Flats, typically it takes a few weeks after a release
[18:59] <lucas> nosrednaekim: it doesn't work in qemu?
[18:59] <nightswim> mobodo: yes
[18:59] <Seigram> I have a Pentium Core 2 Duo... which iso do I want to use?
[18:59] <DShepherd> Puppy_, i dont know how good an estimate that is though
[18:59] <CarlFK> lucas: real cd or image?
[18:59] <pppoe_dude> Pirate_Hunter, it will use that by default
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> lucas: qemu is finicky.
[18:59] <lucas> CarlFK: .iso file
[18:59] <Puppy_> DShephered: ok thanks!
[18:59] <Terrasque> mobodo: yes
[18:59] <Kaepora> does gutsu have ati drivers?
[18:59] <pavs> 8hr 45 minutes remaining .....damn
[18:59] <titun> how do i extract a rar file?
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> Kaepora: yeah
[18:59] <sparr_> titun: unrar
[18:59] <dryrot> titun: unrar x filename.rar
[18:59] <PovAddict> rar sux
[18:59] <DShepherd> Puppy_, your welcome
[19:00] <Mmph> any gusty users here? was just wondering what version of blender was in the apt repositories , is it 2.45? TIA :D
[19:00] <nightswim> packages.ubuntu.com
[19:00] <Pirate_Hunter> pppoe_dude: are you sure cause i created that for Feisty im doing a clean install not upgrade
[19:00] <dryrot> this is the gutsy channel now isnt it?
[19:00] <Flats> Are you able to update just the kernel? Or do you need to update the whole "Ubuntu" package?
[19:00] <pppoe_dude> Pirate_Hunter, swap partitions are formatted by default when you reinstall
[19:00] <stray77> dryrot, yes
[19:00] <pavs> this channel was much more full when we had fiesty
[19:01] <Seigram> I have a Pentium Core 2 Duo... which iso do I want to use? When I went to the dl page, 64bit AMD and Intel computers is an option but then the file says amd64.iso -- So whih to I want?
[19:01] <Pirate_Hunter> pppoe_dude: I know that but what i said i still got fesity but i want gutsy to use the same swap would that be ok?
[19:01] <pppoe_dude> Pirate_Hunter, you should really have only one swap partition, and ubuntu will use that anyway no matter which original ubuntu you created it from
[19:01] <dogwater> hrm. kickseed is a pretty lame hostname :D
[19:01] <Jovaro> pppoe_dude, i see this error in syslog: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X-error - Startar om :0
[19:01] <HyperCity> isit normal that when i open top i get 2 users?i'm the onlyone using this box
[19:01] <Terrasque> mobodo: http://ftp.vectranet.pl/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:01] <drbrain8> does it mean gutsy is going "mainstream" ?
[19:01] <pppoe_dude> Pirate_Hunter, as long as you don't hibernate
[19:01] <dryrot> all right i wanna upgrade, i have a iso of gutsy alternate, what do i do now?
[19:01] <PovAddict> Seigram: is it a 64-bit intel CPU?
[19:01] <mobodo> thanks
[19:01] <stray77> Seigram, get the amd64
[19:01] <Seigram> yes
[19:01] <Seigram> thanks!
[19:01] <CarlFK> lucas: hmm, can't find any isos.  hate to do this, but you might want to ask in #qemu :)
[19:01] <Mmph> yea amd rocks
[19:01] <pppoe_dude> Pirate_Hunter, why would you have two ubuntu diostros running on the same computer?
[19:01] <Terrasque> polish servers are really underestimated when it comes to downloading from ;)
[19:02] <Flats> neone using the 915resolution package or is that a different channel?
[19:02] <madrazr> hi all
[19:02] <Pirate_Hunter> pppoe_dude: what happens if i ever wheer to do and why shouldnt i do it "even nknowing i have no use for it"
[19:02] <TABASCO> Hi
[19:02] <stray77> well i got 7.10 installed and compiz working. yay!
[19:02] <pavs> according to distrowatch pslinuxos is more popular than ubuntu.
[19:02] <DShepherd> stray77, great!
[19:02] <madrazr> Is there any way by which I can download the correctness of the GUTSY iso image downloaded
[19:02] <Mmph> I do 2 linux installs, 1 for a stable, and another for a testing version, so I can play with the new stuff :D
[19:02] <Cryoniq> How did one check again which driver is in use for GFX card?
[19:02] <pppoe_dude> Jovaro, sounds like a GDM/X issue. i would google the error. but did you computer boot from old kernel?
[19:02] <mobodo> seems like "http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/" is down?
[19:03] <Pirate_Hunter> pppoe_dude: since gutsy is new i see no point of upgrading my current distro (feisty) ill wait for a while and see how gutsy works before i start moving my files to it
[19:03] <TABASCO> Just a quick question: Is it possible to install the documentation files of other languages in Ubuntu?
[19:03] <Jovaro> not yet, will do now
[19:03] <titun> dryrot: oh i need to apt-get unrar first :)
[19:03] <DShepherd> madrazr, you want to check the correctness of the iso you downloaded?
[19:03] <Terrasque> mobodo: not down. it answers.. sometimes.. its just overworked ;)
[19:03] <madrazr> yup
[19:03] <mobodo> hah
[19:03] <madrazr> DShepherd: There was some problem in the download
[19:03] <ompaul> !md5 | madrazr
[19:03] <john_> b594a0503bd7582d685c545328ff09fe
[19:03] <ubotu> madrazr: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[19:03] <pppoe_dude> Pirate_Hunter, ok. then just make sure you install them on seprate root partitions
[19:03] <stray77> mobodo, the torrent tracker is up and running just fine
[19:03] <HyperCity> isit normal that when i open top i get 2 users?i'm the onlyone using this box
[19:03] <pppoe_dude> Pirate_Hunter, and as long as you don't hibernate your computer, they can share the swap
[19:03] <Cryoniq> Which driver is best to use in gutsy these days? The open source or ATI/AMD's own?
[19:04] <Mmph> anyone know where I get the package list for gusty?
[19:04] <sam_> ok that worked. one question. my wireless is kind of unpredictable. what can happen if it's interrupted while dl'ing and installing packages?
[19:04] <beast_> sound for my dv6500 did not work out of the box, so i googled it and followed the guide at the bottom of http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502335. now my sound card is not recognized at all. any help?
[19:04] <PovAddict> John_:what's that md5 for?
[19:04] <Terrasque> mobodo: if you have dht running on your torrent program and a few torrents already up, it should go smoothly even without the tracker
[19:04] <ompaul> HyperCity, most likley you are seeing you and you or you and root
[19:04] <pppoe_dude> Mmph, packages.ubuntu.com
[19:04] <Mmph> thanks pppoe_dude  :D
[19:04] <DJ-Tumbleweed> All - I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 7.10 from 7.04 and following the simple installation instructions on Ubuntu
[19:04] <dany21> hello
[19:04] <stray77> PovAddict, its for checking your iso to make sure its good b4 you burn it and maybe make a coaster
[19:04] <fiXXXerMe2> I'm installing ubuntu and it'
[19:04] <aleks^> #macedonia
[19:04] <DJ-Tumbleweed> only my update manager doesn not tell me there is a new version available
[19:04] <PovAddict> I mean what ISO
[19:05] <Pirate_Hunter> pppoe_dude: ok will do so they are on different partitions but does gutsy pick up the current swap automatically and is the format jfs any goo compared to reserfs
[19:05] <pppoe_dude> aleks^, please do not advertise channels here
[19:05] <DJ-Tumbleweed> is there a way to upgrade to 7.10 from the command line?
[19:05] <Flats> How can I find out my KDE version?
[19:05] <stray77> .iso is a cd or dvd image
[19:05] <Pici> pppoe_dude: he probably trying to join
[19:05] <PovAddict> stray77: ...
[19:05] <fiXXXerMe2> I'm installing ubuntu and it's asking "Is the system clock set to UTC?"  Does this mean "Do you want to use UTC?" or "Are you already using UTC?"?
[19:05] <TABASCO> mhm.. another try: Can I change the language of the implemented documentation in Ubuntu?
[19:05] <nemo_work> the distro servers must be getting hammered
[19:05] <HyperCity> ompaul: how can i see the users from comand line, even with sudo, miy laptop is behaving strangely
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> Flats: in any KDE app, click "about"
[19:05] <PovAddict> stray77: I asked john_ what iso that md5 was for
[19:05] <nemo_work> averaging 8KiB/s
[19:05] <PovAddict> since it doesn't match with any on my MD5SUMS
[19:05] <ompaul> HyperCity, you already said you could see it - who is useful as is w
[19:05] <dryrot> i was able to torrent gutsy desktop and alternate iso really quickly
[19:05] <BobSapp> fiXXXerMe2: I think its a reference to what the BIOS clock uses
[19:06] <dany21> i have a problem. i cannot get my conexant modem working on ubuntu 7.04. i searched for a specific dirver for ubuntu, but no results. how can i get my conexant modem working on ubuntu?
[19:06] <DShepherd> fiXXXerMe1, just go with the default
[19:06] <BobSapp> fiXXXerMe2: Unfortunatley, I dont know what TZ my bios clock uses :(
[19:06] <fiXXXerMe2> Default of yes?  Should I make sure my bios is in utc then?
[19:06] <madrazr> DShepherd: I had a problem during download. I started the download using cURL, but it stopped after 94% but I could not resume, so used torrents to download the remaining part, so does this work, I want to verify
[19:06] <Pirate_Hunter> pppoe_dude: is jfs better than reseirfs or it is just a matter of choice
[19:06] <DShepherd> fiXXXerMe1, yes
[19:06] <BobSapp> I dont even know what UTC is lol
[19:06] <fiXXXerMe2> ok
[19:06] <erUSUL> !dialup | dany21
[19:06] <ubotu> dany21: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[19:06] <fiXXXerMe2> thank you
[19:06] <sisseck> hi, just finished installing 7.10 and playing around with the desktop effects. Anyone know why i cant select custom settings? there is a screenshot with the none, normal, extra and custom effects but i only get the 3 first ones
[19:06] <PovAddict> madrazr: what iso is it?
[19:06] <TABASCO> Well, I'm going to try it later again.. see you..
[19:06] <HyperCity> ompaul: i meen get the name of the users
[19:06] <PovAddict> !verify | madrazr
[19:06] <ubotu> madrazr: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[19:07] <avsa242> Anyone else with a Broadcom wifi (groan) ever had mostly dropped packets in X, but switch to a vc and have it work perfectly?
[19:07] <dany21> ok, thanks
[19:07] <Leviel> I checked, Ubuntu does detect my RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ NIC, but my network is not working.  the IP address seems suspect, but i'm not sure.  it's automatically configured (DHCP).  what settings do i need to change?
[19:07] <DShepherd> madrazr, md5sum file.iso and compare the output to this page http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/MD5SUMS
[19:07] <madrazr> PovAddict: its a CD ISO
[19:07] <Terrasque> madrazr: if your torrent client says its right, its right. bittorrent uses hashes for data verification
[19:07] <sparrw> bulmer: it was a bad *switch*
[19:07] <sparrw> wtf
[19:07] <NIKOLCE> kako e
[19:07] <DJ-Tumbleweed> Does anyone know if there is a way to upgrade to 7.10 from 7.04 from the command line since my update manager doesn't give me a new distribution release is available?
[19:08] <Charlotte> dobre
[19:08] <YeTr2> Is there a tool somewhere that will automatically update my machine to 7.10?
[19:08] <ivanteran> Leviel: please check that your router is working ok
[19:08] <nosrednaekim> DJ-Tumbleweed: are you on kubuntu?
[19:08] <DJ-Tumbleweed> please private me
[19:08] <adante> anybody here use mythtv?
[19:08] <DJ-Tumbleweed> nope
[19:08] <DJ-Tumbleweed> ubuntu 7.04
[19:08] <ompaul> HyperCity, as in which context - possible users or those logged in - remembering of course that listed users that might log in include many programs cat /etc/passwd or click on system Administration Users and poke about in there
[19:08] <sparrw> adante: i tried once, too confusing
[19:08] <DShepherd> madrazr, md5sum is a command so run that in terminal.
[19:08] <Blama> Is it faster to install 7.04 and then upgrade or to wait for this 7.1 to download? It is going to 20kb/s
[19:08] <Pici> DJ-Tumbleweed: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading follow the server upgrade instructions
[19:08] <mc44> DJ-Tumbleweed: update-manager -d
[19:08] <CrazyMatt> I need help on first time install
[19:08] <DJ-Tumbleweed> okay
[19:08] <madrazr> DShepherd: md5 what is the parameter??
[19:08] <DJ-Tumbleweed> thanks
[19:08] <PovAddict> madrazr: the filename of the iso
[19:08] <Terrasque> Blama: from the rumors there the repositores are similary nuked
[19:09] <Leviel> ivanteran: i'm running from windows at the moment, so i need to shut down.  where do i check that?
[19:09] <juri245> anyone know how to disable the Add Bookmark dialog in firefox, so it just adds it?
[19:09] <sparrw> about to dist-upgrade from gutsy to gutsy  :)
[19:09] <juri245> in about:config maybe
[19:09] <DShepherd> madrazr, the full path to the iso image that you downloaded
[19:09] <mllm> I just installed 7.10 on inspiron 9100, trying to configure fglrx and also compiz fusion. However, the /etc/apt/sources.list file may be missing libraries, because I cant get libglitz, libglitz1-dev, libglitz1-xgl which are dependencies to xserver-xgl. Anyone have a complete sources.list I could use ?
[19:09] <HyperCity> ompaul: i meen as loged users(thx anyway for the help)
[19:09] <Amilo> hello
[19:09] <Mmph> Hoooray! Gusty has mame :D
[19:09] <ompaul> Blama, well if you do the 7.04 you then have to updated everything to 7.10 so I guess you loose a lot of time if you ahve to update after a downloaed
[19:09] <madrazr> oh ok thanks
[19:09] <ivanteran> leviel: ok, it's a wired interface?
[19:09] <dryrot> how do i upgrade my dist from a dir of deb files ?
[19:09] <ivanteran> leviel: or a wireless?
[19:09] <DShepherd> sparr, good luck. hope it works
[19:09] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me if jfs is stable and if it is better than reseirfs?
[19:09] <Leviel> ivanteran: no, wired
[19:09] <Charlotte> anyone try wine on gutsy???
[19:10] <Terrasque> Blama: http://ftp.vectranet.pl/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent - torrent :)
[19:10] <ompaul> HyperCity, you might try to be clearer in your request, I said two commands already. "who" and "w"
[19:10] <Jordan_U> mllm, Just enable universe
[19:10] <sparrw> Will there be a PPC Gutsy CD?
[19:10] <Pirate_Hunter> Charlotte: not yet but wil do so
[19:10] <ivanteran> Leviel: have you tried setting up manually the ip of the network interface?
[19:10] <madrazr> DShepherd: PovAddict: the value returned by the command should match with what is given here??  http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/MD5SUMS
[19:10] <Charlotte> me too
[19:10] <madrazr> ???
[19:10] <Blama> Ugh, anyone have the 7.10 x64 Desktop Install Torrent? And also, I had this problem with 7.04 that I had to download the Alternate Install CD so I could run it due to XServer-Xorg not working right with my card, will I still have this problem?
[19:10] <Charlotte> how to u install it
[19:10] <dogwater> anyone here build systems using kickstart?
[19:10] <Jordan_U> sparrw, Yes, but it will not be commercially supported
[19:10] <mllm> ...or know what repository has those, cuz I'm trying to download them one by one and it's a pain
[19:10] <Pici> !ppc > sparrw (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:10] <CrazyMatt> I'm having trouble installing, is there someone I can private that might b able to help??
[19:10] <PovAddict> madrazr: correct
[19:10] <DShepherd> sparr, i think so but not officially
[19:10] <Jordan_U> mllm, Again, universe has them
[19:11] <sisseck> am i the only one missing the custom settings in desktop effects? running 7.10
[19:11] <Leviel> ivanteran: yes, i did that when i first installed.  then i got "daemon setting" errors or something, and a completely messed-up system
[19:11] <Pirate_Hunter> im finding it hard to keep track of things on pidgin going to install gutsy than will be back here
[19:11] <Pici> !ccsm | sisseck
[19:11] <ubotu> sisseck: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz
[19:11] <mllm> how do i enable universe
[19:11] <Pirate_Hunter> bye ppl
[19:11] <DShepherd> madrazr, it would match the one you downloaded
[19:11] <blackaardvark> am i right in guessing im going to have to put in dpkg reconfig xorg-xserver for my ati card to work?
[19:11] <Jordan_U> mllm, System -> Preferences -> Software Sources
[19:11] <Leviel> ivanteran: i tried several times, several different ways - probably wrong ones, but yeah
[19:11] <Jordan_U> mllm, Make that administration :)
[19:11] <DShepherd> madrazr, which of them did you download?
[19:11] <madrazr> DShepherd: PovAddict: Oh soooooooper thanks a lot it matched
[19:11] <blackaardvark> its an awkward x600
[19:11] <Kaepora> qwertyuiop
[19:11] <sisseck> thank
[19:11] <sisseck> s
[19:11] <ivanteran> Leviel: are you upgrading or doing a fresh install? have you tried connecting to the net using the livecd?
[19:11] <Charlotte> hey guys how do u install wine???
[19:11] <madrazr> DShepherd: ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:11] <mllm> I have only command line btw
[19:11] <mllm> fglrx crashes my laptop
[19:11] <DShepherd> madrazr, kool. your welcome
[19:12] <Blama> Ugh, anyone have the 7.10 x64 Desktop Install Torrent? And also, I had this problem with 7.04 that I had to download the Alternate Install CD so I could run it due to XServer-Xorg not working right with my card, will I still have this problem?
[19:12] <madrazr> DShepherd: it matched, thanks a lot
[19:12] <DShepherd> madrazr, never mind me. carry on! :-)
[19:12] <DShepherd> madrazr, your welcome
[19:12] <avsa242> adante: yes
[19:12] <Pici> !torrents > Blama (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:12] <Jordan_U> Charlotte, Like any other linux application
[19:12] <HyperCity> ompaul: seems that u were right i get 2 times my username, thx for u'r time
[19:12] <stray77> MD5sums for all the cd .iso's -> http://pastebin.com/m28d5be1d
[19:12] <madrazr> quit HAPPY GUTSY RELEASE DAY, LEAVING TO INSTALL GUTSY NOW
[19:12] <Leviel> ivanteran: no, it's still 7.0.4, it's never worked.  liveCD... no, i suppose i could
[19:12] <adante> avsa242: any idea if the mythrename.pl script is in ap ackage somewhere i'm missing?
[19:12] <Pici> madrazr: Well, that failed miserably.
[19:12] <Amilo> is it possible to use Remote Desktop from 7.10 to a Vista pc? I keep getting connection refused..
[19:12] <comosicus> i have ubuntu 7.04. i whant to make a partition and install windows on that partition...how do i do that?
[19:12] <avsa242> sec
[19:13] <BobSapp> Did they fix nvidia in gutsy yet?
[19:13] <Blama> Thanks, I had this problem with 7.04 that I had to download the Alternate Install CD so I could run it due to XServer-Xorg not working right with my card, will I still have this problem?
[19:13] <DShepherd> Pici, hehe
[19:13] <Pio> !torrents > Pio
[19:13] <rsk> BobSapp: no... nvidia is broken in gutsy..
[19:13] <stray77> Vista and vnc dont work well together, google it
[19:13] <cudaman73> Pio: You're teh a jerk
[19:13] <rsk> you know it's released.
[19:13] <BobSapp> ok ill hold on for a while
[19:13] <BobSapp> thanks
[19:13] <Adhemar> oh, this is a known problem? i get no splash on my 8800
[19:13] <Jordan_U> BobSapp, Not much they can do, it's a problem with nvidia's driver
[19:13] <nosrednaekim> Blama: possibly not if you had a Santa Rosa or a Nvidia 8xxx
[19:13] <ARJones> So is there anybody here actually having a problem getting the cd iso image? Cause I have the iso on my box and will let a few people download it if they can't run bittorrent for some reason
[19:13] <BobSapp> stray77: vista and rdp dont work well either :)
[19:13] <dogwater> there's absolutely nothing wrong with my nvidia card in gutsy
[19:13] <ivanteran> leviel: yes, try conecting to the net using the livecd because that particular model of realtek is completely supported
[19:13] <Pici> Amilo: Works for me here, make sure that you selected rdpv5 and not vnc (unless you are using that)
[19:13] <BobSapp> stray77: I couldnt even rdp into xp from vista
[19:14] <PovAddict> ARJones: there's enough mirrors
[19:14] <PovAddict> the trick is using more than one
[19:14] <Amilo> so the Remote Desktop in Ubuntu is only for VNC?
[19:14] <Blama> nosrednaekim, I have an ATI x800
[19:14] <adante> hi, i'm trying to use update manager to upgrade, previously i tried this but didn't have enough space to boot, now when i run update-manager and click upgrade it locks up - or at least hasn't been responding for hte past 20m
[19:14] <BobSapp> actually as it stands Ubuntu is more compatible than vista is with XP
[19:14] <mllm> ok I'm back to graphical mode (enabled ati instead of fglrx in x.conf) now what
[19:14] <CrazyMatt> when I select install (fresh install) before it goes to livecd I get an initramfs line.... thought one time it did go all the way into the op. system, I just didn't completely install that time
[19:14] <DShepherd> !partition | comosicus,
[19:14] <ubotu> comosicus,: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[19:14] <erle-> hi all, is there a way to run java as browser plugin in gutsy 64 bit?
[19:14] <nosrednaekim> Blama: ah.. well then IDK about it... an upgrade would probably be safest
[19:14] <mllm> how do I enable universe ?
[19:14] <erle-> java 7 does not run
[19:14] <Pici> Amilo: no, theres a dropdown in the application for which protocol you are using, make sure its set to rdpv5 (or similar, I can't look at it right now)
[19:14] <bmt2> i have installed k3b and already i have an error telling me that "MP3 audio decoder plugin not found"
[19:14] <PovAddict> java 7??
[19:14] <BobSapp> 7?
[19:14] <esperegu> anybody experience on how to upgrade to gutsy using APT-CACHER ???
[19:14] <Pio> erle-, you need to use blackdown java
[19:15] <Jordan_U> adante, Any error?
[19:15] <BobSapp> lol thats what I thought,
[19:15] <stray77> BobSapp, i got vnc working in vista but you cant install it in server mode, you must use user mode.
[19:15] <blackaardvark> java 7 doesnt exist
[19:15] <DShepherd> !repos | mllm
[19:15] <ubotu> mllm: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[19:15] <BobSapp> ah
[19:15] <erle-> blackaardvark, it does
[19:15] <adante> Jordan_U: nah, the update manager has just frozen
[19:15] <erle-> but not final released
[19:15] <bmt2> where can i get the MAD MP3 decoding liberary as well as the K3B MAD MP3 decoder plugin
[19:15] <bmt2>  ?
[19:15] <Kilroo> Has anyone else had their keyboard multimedia keys stop working when they upgraded to 7.10? Doesn't look like anyone in #xubuntu can help.
[19:15] <CrazyMatt> not getting much help here
[19:15] <Pici> !mp3 > | (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:15] <erle-> in ubuntu gutsy it is in the repositories
[19:15] <blackaardvark> well if it does who's using it?
[19:15] <BobSapp> current version is SE 6 use that
[19:15] <Jordan_U> mllm, Please check messages to you before you ask the same question over again ( I already gave you an answer )
[19:15] <Hairulfr> Hey all, I accidentally did something to my NTFS drive while trying to reinstall grub, now neither windows or linux will read it... :( Any ideas?
[19:16] <avsa242> adante: my guess would be the mythbackend package or libmyth-perl
[19:16] <erle-> blackaardvark, it is autamtically installed by ubuntu, if you open a page with a applet in firefox
[19:16] <bmt2> i am using irssi , how do i look at "private" messages ?
[19:16] <DShepherd> Pici, i see you prefer to > for private message. Trying to reduce traffic?
[19:16] <stray77> neat, running video on a rotating cube with piii 600 and nvidia 5200. lol it actually works!
[19:16] <Pici> DShepherd: "Trying"
[19:16] <blackaardvark> wierd, i've been using 1.6 for ages and it never gives me hassle
[19:16] <levander> What's the best SVN browser in Feisty?
[19:16] <DShepherd> Pichu0102, ok
[19:16] <erle-> blackaardvark, i have the 64 bit edition of gutsy - there is no mozilla plugin vor other java versions
[19:17] <aaron87> thanks guys! Have a great day!
[19:17] <erle-> i have java installed and it runs like it should, but there is no plugin
[19:17] <MTecknology> anybody know what +1 is called?
[19:17] <ralpho> ubuntu need to be split into catagories busy busy
[19:17] <blackaardvark> ohhhh does it work with eclipse etc?
[19:17] <bmt2> how do i read a private message on here
[19:17] <Pici> MTecknology: Hardy Heron, see !hardy
[19:17] <bmt2> i am using irssi
[19:17] <humbolto> nvidia driver is conflicting with the x-failsave thingy! My nvidia config from feisty does not work anymore!
[19:17] <kevinO> where can i find a torrent for ubuntu server?
[19:17] <humbolto> what can I do?
[19:17] <erle-> blackaardvark, java 6 is working, but not as plugin for firefox
[19:17] <sam55> In firefox, does anyone know how to get MathML fonts working?
[19:17] <dryrot> bmt2: control n
[19:17] <erle-> everything else is alright
[19:18] <Pici> bmt2: alt-p alt-n to move through windows
[19:18] <blackaardvark> i getcha
[19:18] <PovAddict> erle-: you mean for applets?
[19:18] <nosrednaekim> MTecknology: Ignorant Ibus
[19:18] <Pici> bmt2: sorry, ctrl, not alt
[19:18] <erle-> PovAddict, yeah
[19:18] <MTecknology> ralpho, that's because #ubuntu+1 is being forwarded here
[19:18] <blackaardvark> how about flash in firefox on 64bit?
[19:18] <nemo_work> heh. download times fluctuate wildly from file to file
[19:18] <humbolto> it is impossible for me to get that going!
[19:18] <erle-> blackaardvark, it runs fine
[19:18] <nemo_work> "only 3 hours remaining! (downloading at 200KiB/s)"
[19:18] <kevinO> where are the torrents for gutsy server?
[19:18] <nemo_work> "only 22 hours remaining - next file"
[19:18] <erle-> it installed some 32 bit libs, but it runes fine
[19:18] <blackaardvark> thank god im tired of patchy work arounds
[19:18] <ARJones> well shit thats kind of disappointing
[19:18] <Pici> !torrents > kevinO (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:18] <humbolto> not even when I lay hands on xorg.conf
[19:18] <Luci3n> i'm having problems with configuring the screen size it is always reverts back to 800x680
[19:18] <ARJones> the update killed my wireless
[19:18] <Terrasque> bmt2: also, alt+a for the last window there was any activity in. and alt and a number to jump to that window
[19:19] <kevinO> ty Pici
[19:19] <silent> wow... this channel is surprisingly inactive... I'll give it a few more hours before it's unreadable
[19:19] <cudaman73> !torrents > cudaman73
[19:19] <Cryoniq> Luci3n: I have that problem as well if I change driver for my ati card to ATI/AMD's own
[19:19] <Terrasque> silent: its quieter now than it was earlier
[19:19] <silent> Terrasque, I see
[19:19] <Meyvn> I just accidentally did a "sudo rm -r /usr/share/mime", is there any way to undo the last bash command? Or if it's irreversible are those vital files?
[19:19] <kl4m> I wonder about gnash, how complete is it
[19:19] <akulah_> anybody knows how to install spca5xx on gutsy ?
[19:19] <gspr> nosrednaekim: What do you mean? I tried to run the upgrade again, but it just says I'm already at the latest version
[19:19] <silent> Meyvn, LOL!!!!!
[19:19] <silent> linux newbs are newbs
[19:19] <gspr> nosrednaekim: oops, my bad
[19:19] <Terrasque> silent: about an hour after release it took ~10 seconds for a line to move over the whole screen :D
[19:19] <Cryoniq> Luci3n: and even if I change the screen defs and choose 1280 etc it will hate me and send me to config fallback.
[19:19] <Luci3n> Cryoniq: have you found a way around it
[19:19] <dogwater> anyone know how to prevent ubuntu from naming itself 'kickseed' when installing via kickstart?
[19:20] <nosrednaekim> gspr: then donw't worry about it :)
[19:20] <erle-> blackaardvark, can you tell me where are the major differences between ubuntu and vanilla kernels?
[19:20] <silent> Meyvn, short version, no.
[19:20] <Cryoniq> Luci3n: not yet..
[19:20] <bmt2> Terrasque: i only have one window open
[19:20] <cudaman73> dogwater: you can change the hostname yourself.
[19:20] <humbolto> does anybody know how to get an nvidia card working? the X failsafe thing is freaking out!
[19:20] <KNY> there's no way to more specifically configure compiz settings, is there?
[19:20] <wckdkl0wn> to convert to kubuntu in terminal its sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right? or is it kde-desktop?
[19:20] <dogwater> cudaman73: right, after the install sure; but our installs have to be completely hands off
[19:20] <kl4m> silent: please be polite. This is a support channel
[19:20] <KNY> humboldt, mine worked find (7800 GS)
[19:20] <Pici> !ccsm > KNY (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:20] <silent> KNY, appearance options
[19:20] <dryrot> KNY: is there gnome-compiz ?
[19:20] <Meyvn> silent: the I can't undo it part? Or the files are vital part?
[19:20] <dogwater> (thus the point of kickstart)
[19:20] <Terrasque> bmt2: in irssi you always have two if you're on a channel :) 1 for the server window, and 2 for the first channel
[19:20] <silent> kl4m, he's trying to reverse a rm... honestly
[19:20] <Haz> i keep on getting a "kernel panic - not syncing" error everytime i boot up the alternate installer for gutsy... any likely cause?
[19:20] <Cryoniq> Luci3n: but I am starting to think in some way to copy the part from my working xorg.conf, change and then paste that part back in for the screen settings
[19:20] <blackaardvark> that i cannot
[19:21] <arun_> How's the upgrading going?
[19:21] <blackaardvark> why?
[19:21] <shapeshifta> Problems with gutsy: 1. compiz-fusion now stutters very often, ran perfectly on feisty. 2. on startup the backround is brown instead of black, as I configured. 3. in wine apps the fonts are messed up. 4. wine apps miss the little preview in the lower right corner, if they don't use the compiz wm and metacity decorator. 5. slower startup. Has anyone a solution to one or two of these problems?
[19:21] <generalsnus> im trying to compile a app called nvclock here.. it seems that it dosent find the files needed for a gtk version.. what should i get to make this work?
[19:21] <mllm> ok cool it works now
[19:21] <kl4m> silent: Well it does work on Windows under certain conditions (recycle bin, system restore). How should he know
[19:21] <DShepherd> KNY, install compizconfig-settings-manager and run ccsm or go to appearance and select preferences
[19:21] <generalsnus> gtk dev  files or somthing?
[19:21] <KNY> DShepherd, got it, thanks
[19:22] <Terrasque> kl4m: now he knows :)
[19:22] <blackaardvark> i understand the meaning of a vanilla kernel but when it comes to studying the differences..... blankety blank
[19:22] <Nighthawk420> installing!!!  20 mins
[19:22] <DShepherd> KNY, no prob
[19:22] <silent> kl4m, it's del in windows, and same thing there
[19:22] <mllm> by the way, I just found that if you install ntfs-config you will get write support for the blasted ntfs filesystem! how cool is that
[19:22] <skold> generalsnus: why don't you install it via aptitude?
[19:22] <silent> kl4m, but perhaps you are right, I'm an ass
[19:22] <shapeshifta> mllm: gz
[19:22] <Pici> shapeshifta: 1) ask compiz issues in #compiz-fusion 2) the background issue is a known bug, 3) try installing msttcorefonts to fix your fonts issues
[19:22] <dogwater> mllm: actually write support is supposed to be enabled by default
[19:22] <kl4m> Meyvn: the files are pretty important because they make Ubuntu determine file types
[19:22] <DShepherd> mllm, good for you
[19:22] <comosicus> i whant to install windows......i have ubuntu 7.04 and i whant to run them bouth
[19:22] <silent> Meyvn, you may want to reinstall ubuntu
[19:22] <shapeshifta> Pici: Thanks a LOT
[19:22] <arun_> !dualboot
[19:22] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[19:22] <Terrasque> silent, kl4m : actually, with ext2 its possible to undelete. With ext3... well.. its possible in some extreme cases
[19:23] <erle-> blackaardvark, the vanilla kernel is the kernel you get on kernel.org
[19:23] <Blama3> Anyone know why I am only downloading at 30kb/s from 170 seeders and 60 peers?
[19:23] <Meyvn> kl4m: hmm, crap :P
[19:23] <generalsnus> skold: the version from sppitude dont support fan control on 8800gtx..i need the cvs version
[19:23] <silent> Terrasque, he did a very major rm
[19:23] <erle-> i think there are some patches in the ubuntu kernel which change it
[19:23] <humboldt> KNY: Did you upgrade?
[19:23] <blackaardvark> the linux kernel
[19:23] <erle-> most distributions change the kernel
[19:23] <floating> blama3 what client ?
[19:23] <KNY> humboldt, clean install
[19:23] <kl4m> Meyvn: The can probably be reinstalled or taken from another machine
[19:23] <blackaardvark> i know what a kernel is
[19:23] <DShepherd> Blama3, hammered server maybe
[19:23] <Luci3n> Cryoniq: have you got the restricted drivers working 'cos each time i enable them and modify the res they're disabled again
[19:23] <silent> kl4m, a reinstall would ensure file compatibility
[19:23] <`Matir> anyone here run a local apt mirror?
[19:23] <skold> generalsnus: apt-get build-dep nvclock-gtk in terminal
[19:23] <silent> kl4m, I'd recommend it for a newbie
[19:23] <ghost> hey, can anyone tell me if you can migrate settings, or folders and files from windows after installing 7.10?
[19:23] <KNY> `Matir, my campus does, why?
[19:23] <Meyvn> kl4m: alright, thanks. I'll try those
[19:23] <erle-> i want to have the newest kernel, because there is a nice feature which is not supported for amd64 in the actual version of the kernel in ubuntu gutsy
[19:24] <lunz> i am unable to edit the blacklist file,error i dont have permission even i type command sudo -s as root?can anyone help,just upgrade to rc gutsy..
[19:24] <`Matir> KNY, I'm just trying to figure out how big they are
[19:24] <Blama3> How do I kick ghosts from this channe?
[19:24] <KNY> `Matir, can't help you there
[19:24] <shapeshifta> Pici: "E: Couldn't find package msttcorefont" I guess I'm doing something wrong
[19:24] <humboldt> KNY: would you be so kind to pastebin your xorg.conf somewhere for me please!
[19:24] <silent> erle-, the kernel doesnt get much newer than gutsy
[19:24] <Terrasque> silent: well, as long as the data part of the disk is not overwritten.. of course, ext3 journaling does a mighty fine job at exactly that ;)
[19:24] <Cryoniq> Luci3n: I tried that also and they do not enable for me either =(
[19:24] <silent> erle-, you can patch it yourself if you want
[19:24] <Pici> shapeshifta: I think its msttcorefonts
[19:24] <KNY> humboldt, sure thing; give me a second
[19:24] <generalsnus> skold: would i get nvclock beta 3 from that?
[19:24] <blackaardvark> shouldnt there be a seperate channel for 64bit queries?
[19:24] <kl4m> Meyvn: If you absolutely cannot reinstall you can take them elsewhere (another UBUNTU please!, not a red hat or something). Best is reinstall
[19:24] <silent> Terrasque, exactly :P
[19:24] <Charlotte> anyone installed wine on gutsy????
[19:24] <DShepherd>  Blama3 /ghost nick <password>. That's if you own the nick
[19:24] <Haz> i keep on getting a "kernel panic - not syncing" error everytime i boot up the alternate installer... any likely cause?
[19:24] <Pici> Charlotte: yes, many people
[19:24] <alex_> hey, i have a question. if i upgrade ubuntu 7.4 yo 7.10, do i lose everything? like data, configuration, etc.
[19:24] <humboldt> KNY: great, a true friend you are!
[19:24] <Cryoniq> Luci3n: You upgraded from feisty as well?
[19:24] <ejer> Charlotte: yep
[19:24] <Meyvn> kl4m: alright, thanks for the help.
[19:25] <Pici> alex_: no, your settings are saved.
[19:25] <silent> alex_, if the install fails, yes
[19:25] <mllm> ok, so back to my original issue now that Xgl is installed... I picked up the latest ati bundle for linux, installed in gutsy. Ran aticonfig --initial, when X starts it's just a black screen. I remember with older version I had to install libstdc++6 but now it seems installed by default... anyone saw this before ?
[19:25] <DShepherd> alex_, nope
[19:25] <skold> generalsnus: no,you get the packages needed to compile nvclock with gtk enabled
[19:25] <Charlotte> can u pls tell me how exactly, is there any how to fro gutsy?
[19:25] <Cryoniq> Luci3n: that is, you didn't do a clean install?
[19:25] <silent> alex_, but you can always mount from live if the install fails and retrieve your files for a clean install
[19:25] <Pici> Charlotte: sudo apt-get install wine
[19:25] <KNY> humboldt, I'll /msg you
[19:25] <Luci3n> Cryoniq: yes using the update-manager -c
[19:25] <kl4m> !upgrade |  alex_
[19:25] <ubotu> alex_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:25] <alex_> oh ok, thank you
[19:25] <silent> Charlotte, go ahead and sudo apt-get install xwine too... its a nice interface
[19:25] <humboldt> KNY: as you wish
[19:25] <jamili> bah i downloaded corrupted image :\
[19:25] <kl4m> alex_: follow the instructions there and you should be all right, a backup is preferable
[19:26] <jamili> torrents ftw
[19:26] <alex_> kl4m: thanks a lot
[19:26]  * DShepherd never knew about xwine
[19:26] <silent> DShepherd, it's a gooder
[19:26] <mllm> it's fglrx that's giving me problems...
[19:26] <lunz> i am unable to add rt73 to the blacklist file,error i dont have permission even i type command sudo -s as root?can anyone help?just upgrade to gutsy..
[19:26] <DShepherd> silent, kool
[19:26] <generalsnus> skold: ok thanks.. downloading 50ish mb :P
[19:26] <silent> mllm, you, and everyone else
[19:26] <Nighthawk420> whoa now up to 30 mins on the install... was at 20
[19:26] <hullon> Was the system tray removed in gutsy?
[19:26] <silent> mllm, nvidia ftw
[19:26] <Cryoniq> Luci3n: maybe there is a problem for us doing it that way together with our earlier config.. hmm.. I am about to start mess with the drivers etc.. rip out the open source driver and get the ati_amd one and do it the manual way in some way..
[19:26] <Charlotte> well im going to try to run bricscad
[19:26] <Charlotte> and i need wine
[19:26] <blackaardvark> rt73?
[19:26] <Cryoniq> Luci3n: which card you have btw?
[19:27] <DShepherd> hullon, i doubt it
[19:27] <CrazyMatt> ok, I need help, is there anyone that will answer me???
[19:27] <Pici> mllm: install xgl-server
[19:27] <Charlotte> what is the difference btw xwine and regular wine
[19:27] <blackaardvark> oh dear that borked my windows install a while back
[19:27] <silent> when I get home tonight I'll spend a good few hours helping newbies
[19:27] <hullon> cant find it in add to panel...
[19:27] <Vlet> CrazyMatt: If someone has an answer to your question, yes
[19:27] <silent> CrazyMatt, what's your q?
[19:27] <mllm> yeah I have it on my pcs, but this laptop has ati unfortunatley
[19:27] <comosicus> channel ubuntu from roumania
[19:27] <Pici> !ro | comosicus
[19:27] <humboldt> KNY: the problem seems to be, that I don't get any modelines in my xorg.conf
[19:27] <ubotu> comosicus: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[19:27] <bXi> anyone familiar with xgl and ati cards? it just dies on me here
[19:27] <Luci3n> I'm not sure I'm going to have to open it up later even my monitor is not listed
[19:27] <KNY> humboldt, weird. what card?
[19:27] <wtigerks> hello i need help
[19:27] <mllm> I need it for blender3d (and fuzion of course)
[19:27] <ARJones> i dont get this. i can run compiz under pclinuxos, but i cant under ubuntu. says the composite extension is not available but I am running restricted ati drivers
[19:27] <RantingHuman> How do I set up Ubuntu/Nvidia such that every game I run has vsync turned on (forced)?
[19:27] <DShepherd> hullon, notification area maybe?
[19:27] <raper4e><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:27] <ARJones> so it *should* be able to do everything
[19:28] <ARJones> whats the deal?
[19:28] <skold> generalsnus: yeah for compiling gtk programs you neeed alot of things...
[19:28] <silent> mllm, make sure you address your comments by using a name... you can start typing the persons name and hit tab to complete
[19:28] <Luci3n> Cryoniq: I'm not sure I'm going to have to open it up later even my monitor is not listed
[19:28] <humboldt> KNY: GeForce Go 6200/6400
[19:28] <hullon> DShepherd: thanks alot :)
[19:28] <neighborlee> wtigerks: please state the nature of your emergency
[19:28] <KNY> humboldt, never used one of them
[19:28] <DShepherd> hullon, your welcome
[19:28] <silent> EVERYONE PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO PEOPLE IF THEY AREN'T QUESTIONS BY STARTING TO TYPE THEIR IRC NAMES AND HITTING TAB. YOU MAY HAVE TO TYPE MORE OF THE NAME IF THERE ARE SIMILAR NAMES IN THE CHANNEL.
[19:28] <Cryoniq> bXi: I can recomend looking at the ubuntu forums. I am having trouble in gutsy with my ati 9800 pro that had direct rendering and open source drivers in feisty working very good
[19:28] <humboldt> KNY: When I remove xorg.conf completely I get the right resolution with nv.
[19:28] <mllm> Silent: Tab doesn't work on pidgin, but i'll put comments
[19:28] <CrazyMatt> I'm a newb, I can admit it, I'm trying a fresh install of 7.10 and after I select install from the first menu (before I get to the LiveCD OS) I get BusyBox and (initramfs)
[19:29] <lunz> blackaardvark,it's a native driver for d-link wireless g-122 vC1
[19:29] <silent> mllm, sudo apt-get install xchat
[19:29] <wtigerks> i have 7.10 and i can not get the my nvidia to enable
[19:29] <bXi> Cryoniq: i got an x1950pro with the fglrx driver
[19:29] <Vlet> CrazyMatt: And it just hangs there? How long has it been like that?
[19:29] <pike_> CrazyMatt: considered the alternate install cd?
[19:30] <recon> huh. ubuntu+1 is forwarding to here.
[19:30] <Pici> recon: correct
[19:30] <dblackaarvark> hrm can someone tell me if the wireless driver problem is fixed in gutsy? ive checked the forums and there doesnt seem to be anything on it there..
[19:30] <Cryoniq> bXi: I however heard there will maybe come an update for ati drivers tomorrow..
[19:30] <DShepherd> recon, cause currently there is no need for that room anymore
[19:30] <Cryoniq> bXi: and aiglx supoort are coming in them as well
[19:31] <Vlet> dblackaarvark: What problem in particular?
[19:31] <lunz> blackaardvark,it's a native driver for d-link wireless g-122 vC1 but it doesnt work, so i have add to the blacklist file but error,it says i dont have permission to save it even i did sudo -s?
[19:31] <Pici> Cryoniq: I highly doubt thats coming in an update any time soon
[19:31] <recon> DShepherd: probably right. it's not like anybody needs support for heroin at the moment.
[19:31] <recon> HERON.
[19:31] <recon> hardy heron.
[19:31] <dbrewer_rjr> what do i have to apt-get install so i can uncompress a gtar file?
[19:31] <recon> ...that was really embarrasing.
[19:31] <Charlotte> is "sudo apt-det install wine" will install wine with dependency or without them?????
[19:31] <mllm> ok it works thanks everyone
[19:31] <Cryoniq> Pici: i mean the ATI/AMD drivers. Their own.
[19:31] <JC_Denton_> Where's the compiz entry in the menu? (7.10)
 well "ASking for Cache data failed" 2 times and it "assumed drive cache: write through" wierd part is is that one time it went althe way to the OS but I had to set up a logical drive first so I didn't complete the install at that time, can't get back to that point
[19:31] <dblackaarvark> i had to jump through all manner of hoops to get my belkin card to work now with the proprietary driver not really working.
[19:32] <skold> Charlotte: with
[19:32] <Vlet> dbrewer_rjr: nothing. Just: tar -zxvf thefilename.tar.gz
[19:32] <Charlotte> thanx
[19:32] <Pici> JC_Denton_: System>preferences>appearance>visual effects
[19:32] <csabull> gusty doesn't recognize my laptop
[19:32] <RantingHuman> How do I set up Ubuntu/Nvidia such that every game I run has vsync turned on (forced)? Is Sync to V Blank the same as vsync?
[19:32] <DShepherd> JC_Denton_, System -- Preferences -- Appearances
[19:32]  * Siropel disapointed with this release
[19:32] <arun_> why Siropel
[19:32] <JC_Denton_> Thanks guys... well hidden
[19:32] <wtigerks> the restricted drivers seting in 710 are  not leting me to enable them
[19:32] <dbrewer_rjr> Vlet: the file has a tgz extension
[19:32] <Spee_Der> Good afternoon folks.
[19:32] <arun_> hey Spee_Der
[19:32] <KNY> heh, I like how CCSM lets you configure transparency out to the thousandths place
[19:33] <gspr> If I had a Feisty->Gutsy upgrade hang - how should I procede? The new system is bootable, and seems to be working perfectly, but adept manager still keeps talking about a new version of Ubuntu being available.
[19:33] <Spee_Der> Hello arun.
[19:33] <csabull> can somebody help me?
[19:33] <KNY> 50.0057 is just too bright! good thing I can go to 50.0056!
[19:33] <ScatterBrain> When's it out?   When's it out?   When's it out?   <--Sorry, bad attempt at humor.
[19:33] <JC_Denton_> sniff.. desktop effects could not be loaded
[19:33] <Cryoniq> wtigerks: is there another way to enable them by configuring a config file or via shell?
[19:33] <csabull> laptop-detect: We're not on a laptop (no relevant hint found)
[19:33] <Spee_Der> I'm just haning for now. Hard surgery on forehead this a.m. and now have splitting headache.
[19:33] <Vlet> RantingHuman: I think you can just put +vsync at the end of your modeline
[19:33] <Siropel> arun_: it boots slower, no video acceleration, gnome bugs
[19:33] <Zombie> Hello.
[19:34] <csabull> It's a Asus M6R
[19:34] <RantingHuman> Vlet, err.. modeline?
[19:34] <arun_> Siropel: XV doesn't work in Gutsy??
[19:34] <dbrewer_rjr> Vlet: that werked thanks
[19:34] <Spee_Der> My other computer is doing online upgrade from Feisty Fawn v7.04 to Gutsy Gibbon v7.10
[19:34] <lunz> how do i edit and save the blacklist file?i did type etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but i dont have permission to save it,can anyone help?
[19:34] <Zombie> Where can I go to get Ubuntu Fiesty to Gutsy Upgrade media shipped to me?
[19:34] <pike_> Spee_Der: maybe its a blood clot
[19:34] <Pici> lunz: use sudo
[19:34] <wtigerks> Cryoniq i have no way of knowing that i am new at this
[19:34] <Pici> !shipit > Zombie (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:34] <ScottAS> Zombie: http://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[19:34] <comosicus> how do i do a hard partition on ubuntu 7.04
[19:34] <Spee_Der> Hello pike. I hope not so. I think it is only from the surgery. Now it is trying to heal.
[19:35] <gaurish> lunz, use gksudo
[19:35] <Siropel> arun_: XV ?
[19:35] <lunz_> how do i edit and save the blacklist file?i did type etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but i dont have permission to save it even i type sudo -s,can anyone help?
[19:35] <Vlet> RantingHuman: Paste your xorg.conf to pastebin
[19:35] <Vlet> !pastebin | RantingHuman
[19:35] <ubotu> RantingHuman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:35] <arun_> Siropel: what do you mean by video acceleration?
[19:35] <pike_> lunz_: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[19:35] <Pici> lunz: What are you using to try to edit it?
[19:35] <taime1> does gutsy have built-in support for broadcom wireless cards, or do we have to install them the old fashioned way?
[19:35] <ejer> lunz_ sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[19:35] <Siropel> arun_: i mean no compiz :)
[19:36] <rdblackaavark> ok im gonna wait a week and then upgrade. there doesnt seem to be a point in leaving it to chance
[19:36] <NekoKun> *laughs* Guys, I lost my pass... I rememver 9 of the 16 characters... does exist any tool to help me to find the 7 missing characters?
[19:36] <Spee_Der> I am wondering if the IPv6 server is down for Freenode ? Suddenly I can not connect using IPv6.
[19:36] <Pici> NekoKun: nope
[19:36] <lunz_> pici,wireless d-link rt73
[19:36] <NekoKun> damn... it was a good pass...
[19:36] <tds5016> any word back on stability of the ugrade to 7.10?
[19:36] <Pici> lunz_: huh? What are you trying to edit the file with?
[19:36] <pike_> Spee_Der: im sure youre fine :) /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you like for general discussion
[19:37] <Vlet> NekoKun: You could boot into 'recovery' mode and reset it
[19:37] <lunz_> pici,wireless d-link rt73 because it doesnt work with my dwl-g122 vc1 usb wireless driver
[19:37] <ejer> NekoKun: you can try cracking it
[19:37] <Spee_Der> Okay Pike. Cheers.
[19:37] <arun_> has anyone got xv working with compiz enabled?
[19:37] <NekoKun> I want RECOVER it... it was a new pass... replacing the 12 char one...
[19:37] <MTecknology> is vmware-server available for 7.10 yet
[19:37] <MTecknology> ?
[19:37] <Pici> lunz_: Nono, not what you are trying to blacklist, what are you using to modify the contents of the file? Gedit? pico? emacs? vi?
[19:37] <lunz_> Pici,adding blacklist rt73 so it doesnt use the driver
[19:37] <tds5016> anyone able to give me the heads up with updating to 7.10 if there are any issues?
[19:37] <ejer> NekoKun: look at johntheripper :L
[19:37] <generalsnus> Anyone knows how i make "nvclock"  to run fan at 100% everytime i start computer??
[19:37] <elbac> When I try to play sound out of my USB headset I get the following error from the sound control panel, audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert !audioreample ! gconfaudiosink: could not open resource for writing.  Anyone have any ideas?
[19:38] <Vlet> NekoKun: Why not just make up another 16 char pass?
[19:38] <Rodya> i am currently installing gutsy, and the installation program is sitting here saying "Configuring apt... 82%... Scanning the mirror..."
[19:38] <noodles12> Does anyone else get random slowdowns in gutsy? like everything lags like you ran out of RAM or something?
[19:38] <Rodya> its been doing this awhile =/
[19:38] <davemlinux1> no logout sound on 7.10, but from preferences plays ok , any fix or is this a bug?
[19:38] <lunz_> Pici,i just type /etc/modprobe.d/blaclist and the editor comes up..i dont know what kind of editor
[19:38] <RantingHuman> Vlet, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41099/
[19:38] <IpMooBeta> noodles12:   no
[19:38] <ejer> Rodya: it is going to be slow today, everyone is doing what you are doing
[19:39] <pike_> Rodya: not sure but given its first day of release the online repos might be pretty slow. getting hit hard
[19:39] <wtigerks> is there some one that know's ubuntu 7.10
[19:39] <Rodya> ok, that's what i thought ejer, but i thought i should make sure =)
[19:39] <Jordan_U> While doing an upgrade to Gutsy X has completely frozen and I can't even get to a tty on the local machine, I am ssh'd in now though, what should I do?
[19:39] <joshjosh> man, the repos are absolutely CRAWLING haha.
[19:39] <matschool> hello
[19:39] <Vlet> RantingHuman: See on lines 80 through 93, there are your modelines
[19:39] <KNY> joshjosh, use mirrors.rit.edu
[19:39] <joshjosh> wtigerks, what do you need?
[19:39] <Pici> lunz_: You *need* to specify an editor, I suspect thats why its not working.
[19:39] <Vlet> RantingHuman: And they all have vsync on
[19:39] <drbrain8> hitting the repo right now
[19:39] <mpetersen> Is this release why I'm having apt problems with dapper?
[19:39] <ejer> Jordan_U: restart gdm? you will lose upgrade process tho
[19:39] <NekoKun> Vlet: cause I have 9 of it
[19:39] <Pici> mpetersen: probably.
[19:39] <arun_> has anyone got xv working with compiz enabled?
[19:39] <DShepherd> Rodya, you could try downloading the alternate cd and upgrade from that. Downloading via torrents seems to be much faster
[19:40] <Jordan_U> ejer, That is what I am afraid of
[19:40] <ejer> arun_: yes
[19:40] <joshjosh> KNY, I just tried to download something to see how slow it was. It's exciting that so many people are updating or downloading that it's putting that much of a strain.
[19:40] <Mmph> you guys got slashdotted, the repos are going to be very slow for a little while, wonder how long it will be before Digg gets it on the front page.
[19:40] <Vlet> NekoKun: Well, have fun :)
[19:40] <ScottAS> Is it possible to repair an Ubuntu Linux installation?
[19:40] <wtigerks> im trying to get me nvidia to work
[19:40] <boubbin> how to use compiz with gutsy ?
[19:40] <KNY> joshjosh, definitely
[19:40] <Tornado> I just installed 7.10, how do I tell if compiz fusion was automatically set up correctly??? Do I first need to enable the nVidia retricted drivers?
[19:40] <mpetersen> bah humbug.  I guess I'll try a different mirror.
[19:40] <ejer> Jordan_U: no biggie really, you can restart it assuming your install is not hosed
[19:40] <KNY> boubbin, type !ccsm
[19:40] <comosicus> i whant to make a partition on hard what shoud i do
[19:40] <arun_> ejer: so the video bug with compiz is fixed?
[19:40] <Jordan_U> boubbin, Boot and log in :)
[19:40] <joshjosh> slashdot, reddit, digg...it's amazing the severs are still up even haha
[19:40] <goldins> hello, I was wondering if I could make an AP out of any PC with a wifi card, or if I need a specific card
[19:40] <boubbin> !ccsm
[19:40] <gaurish> lunz_: try "gksudo gedit  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[19:40] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz
[19:40] <jhoz> open terminal.  type 'compiz --replace &'
[19:40] <Vlet> boubbin: Control Panels >> Appearance >> Visual Effects
[19:40] <joshjosh> Tornado, yes.
[19:40] <Jordan_U> ejer, I don't like making assumptions like that :)
[19:40] <lunz> Pici,i dont think because of the editor,the error says i dont have a permission to save it..
[19:40] <ScottAS> I can't boot into Ubuntu Linux 7.04 installed alongside openSUSE Linux 10.3 but I can't boot into it because it can't find its root partition.
[19:41] <comosicus> whant to chat?
[19:41] <ejer> Jordan_U: I know you have backups, so no big deal, just reinstall
[19:41] <Tornado> joshjosh: K, thx
[19:41] <robline> trying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ffmpeg gives me Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/medibuntu.sos-sts.com_repo_dists_edgy_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[19:41] <Pici> comosicus: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:41] <Chepra> hello
[19:41] <Jordan_U> ejer, And Though I was able to successfully get an ssh session, bash is not starting :(
[19:41] <comosicus> really?!!!!!!!!!!!1
[19:41] <unit3> Anyone else having problems with openoffice after upgrading to gutsy?
[19:41] <Chepra> anyone has a torrent for gutsy? the website isnt responding for me :(
[19:41] <pike_> lunz: sudo isnt doing anything to the file. sudo just runs stuff with root priv so you still need to run the editor with root rights to save the file. just gksu gedit or something then navigate to the file
[19:41] <robline> I'm on 7.04, so why is it looking for edgy repos?
[19:41] <unit3> Chepra: did you check on torrentz.com or similar?
[19:42] <Jordan_U> ejer, I thought it was just taking a long time, but this is far too long for Bash
[19:42] <Chepra> unit3: no
[19:42] <Pici> lunz: I dont know whats going on then. I'm not even sure how you are seeing the file if you arent specifying an editor.
[19:42] <PovAddict> Chepra: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[19:42] <ejer> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:42] <Journeyman> where can you modify the effects in gusty
[19:42] <Jordan_U> robline, Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:42] <Journeyman> or is only the 3 options avalible
[19:42] <unit3> Journeyman: you need the compiz control panel package
[19:42] <Pici> !ccsm | Journeyman
[19:42] <ubotu> Journeyman: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz
[19:42] <Journeyman> ah
[19:42] <unit3> then it gives you the customize option
[19:42] <ejer> Journeyman: only 3 options unless you install compiz settings manager
[19:42] <Jordan_U> Journeyman, install compiz config settings manager
[19:42] <Jordan_U> Journeyman, ccsm
[19:42] <robline> Jordan_U, yep, one sec
[19:43] <humbolto> Am I right or am I right, Xorg and displayconfig-gtk are not pulling their plug'n'play monitor information the same way?!
[19:43] <chriswilliams> is there another repository of compiz fusion for gutsy?
[19:43] <unit3> humbolto: dunno, haven't tested that yet, what video chipset do you have?
[19:43] <Chepra> PovAddict: thanks :)
[19:43] <`Matir> chriswilliams, compiz is in by default on gutsy
[19:43] <Jordan_U> ejer, Bash not starting is not a good sign :(
[19:43] <unit3> chriswilliams: probably not yet, give it a week
[19:43] <ejer> even the torrents are slooowww
[19:43] <humbolto> when I have no xorg.conf at all and start up Xorg, the resolution of my LCD is set right. But displayconfig-gtk is not detecting it!
[19:43] <ejer> Jordan_U: nope :)
[19:43] <ldrada> Only 1599 nicks? Bah, even my toilet IRC server has had more clients connecting.
[19:43] <chriswilliams> unit3: thanks
[19:43] <humbolto> unit3: nvidia
[19:44] <DShepherd> ejer, yeah.... it is..
[19:44] <Jordan_U> chriswilliams, Why would you want another repo for it?
[19:44] <`Matir> humbolto, I've noticed that displayconfig-gtk has some issues
[19:44] <eolo999> What about next release name?
[19:44] <Chepra> and i need the alternate cd for my encrypted device?
[19:44] <Pici> eolo999: Hardy Heron
[19:44] <chriswilliams> Jordan, I'm having problem's with the current one
[19:44] <ejer> Humungous Hamburger
[19:44] <humbolto> unit3: displayconfig-gtk does not work for me neither with nv nor nvidia driver.
[19:44] <ldrada> eolo999: I don't know but I'll think it'll be called 8.something ;)
[19:44] <robline> Jordan_U, http://paste.plone.org/17391
[19:44] <DShepherd> eolo999, hardy heron
[19:44] <mpetersen> Are there any official APT (not ISO) mirrors in the US?
[19:44] <eolo999> 8.04
[19:44] <unit3> humbolto: that's not good, lemme check if it works here, as I've got nv too.
[19:44] <Pici> mpetersen: us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:44] <humbolto> `Matir: you did. did you wirite it?
[19:45] <Cryoniq> I upgraded from feisty with beryl today to gutsy.. I am wondering.. how do I mess with the compiz config, and better.. how do I start it?
[19:45] <Vlet> mpetersen: Lots - In software sources, if you select 'other' as a source, you can browse them
[19:45] <Pici> !ccsm | Cryoniq
[19:45] <ubotu> Cryoniq: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz
[19:45] <ldrada> Cryoniq: Install the compiz package.
[19:45] <mikeobelo> h
[19:45] <`Matir> humbolto, write displayconfig-gtk?  no
[19:45] <mpetersen> pick: besides that one...
[19:45] <kritzstapf> the aspect ratio is not detected correctly by xine applications like totem-xine or kaffeine: http://cpegel.de/vlc-totem-xine.png - is there a way to fix this?
[19:45] <pibe86> hello, desktop efects does not work with my pc, i use ubuntu 7.10 fibal version, in ubuntu 7.04 it worked
[19:45] <unit3> humbolto: works fine here on my nv chipset, may be related to your specific graphics card
[19:45] <alain> ei guys.. how can i install beryl in gutsy...
[19:45] <unit3> pibe86: what video card?
[19:45] <humbolto> I can't get my nvidia card to work at a resolution higher than 640x480 at all.
[19:45] <unit3> alain: beryl is now compiz, it's installed by default
[19:45]  * N3bunel back
[19:46] <mpetersen> Pici: besides that one, any others?
[19:46] <unit3> humbolto: sounds like a monitor pnp detection issue, can you put manual hsync and vsync into your xorg conf?
[19:46] <wtigerks> this room is going to fast in this room i need some one to privit im me so i can get some help
[19:46] <pibe86> it is integrate, but in 7.04 i could work whit the desktop cube
[19:46] <humbolto> unit3: sucks that thing. good by nvidia
[19:46] <JC_Denton_> :S where has /dev/hda6 gone
[19:46] <Vlet> humbolto: go to the 'Screens and Graphics' control panel in 'Administrative'
[19:46] <alain> but i dont have the theme manager
[19:46] <jhoz> someone should record what percent of the questions are about compiz today.
[19:46] <unit3> pibe86: it can here too, install ccms
[19:46] <Jordan_U> robline, "deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free" "deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/ edgy listen"
[19:46] <doofy`> alain, if you want the effects go to system preferences appearance, under the visual effects tab choose extra
[19:46] <humbolto> Vlet: there I am
[19:46] <unit3> jhoz: someone should put "Install ccms!" in the topic. ;)
[19:46] <Pici> mpetersen: I dont know any others off the top of my head.  You can check in System>Administration>Software Sources
[19:46] <mikeobelo> #wegotpot
[19:47] <jhoz> seriously unit3
[19:47] <unit3> I know. :)
[19:47] <jhoz> that would be a good idea
[19:47] <Vlet> humbolto: try picking a different monitor first that can support your resolution
[19:47] <pibe86> unit3: ok, i am going to do it and tell you
[19:47] <Jordan_U> robline, Also, you do know that debian repositories are not necessarily compatible with Ubuntu right?
[19:47] <student23> j #<IP_ADDRESS>
[19:47] <doofy`> alain, also if you want the you can install compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:47] <JC_Denton_> after upgrading /dev/hda is nowhere to be seen. has this changed? perhaps to /dev/fb?
[19:47] <mpetersen> Pici: that would only work if I had a gui, but thanks...
[19:47] <robline> Jordan_U, yep, I had to install some of them for plone development.  Might be hosing something
[19:47] <mikeobelo> join #wegotpot
[19:47] <Pici> mpetersen: sorry :/
[19:47] <humbolto> Vlet: no matter if I choose Plug'n'Play or an LCD Display with the right resolution, it wont show any res higher than 1024x768 if even that. I have 1280x768.
[19:47] <ejer> JC_Denton_: sd*
[19:48] <robline> Jordan_U, thanks, BTW, trying debs now
[19:48] <unit3> pibe86: package is called "compizconfig-settings-manager", once it's installed go to appearance control panel, and there'll be a "custom settings" option under "desktop effects"
[19:48] <jhoz> JC_Denton_, sudo parted, then 'print all'.
[19:48] <mpetersen> anyone else having trouble with broken dapper release files?
[19:48] <chriswilliams> is it possible to use dual monitor's but play a full screen game on only one screen?
[19:48] <unit3> chriswilliams: should be yeah, but it might depend on the game.
[19:48] <Jordan_U> robline, What I meant was that you have lines there that should read "feisty" but instead have "edgy"
[19:48] <alain> i already have the ccsm
[19:48] <Vlet> chriswilliams: yes, I have that set up with my nvidia card
[19:48] <doofy`> is there a commercial repo for gutsy yet?
[19:48] <chriswilliams> unit3, do you know if nexuiz is alright?
[19:48] <unit3> chriswilliams: if your game understands xinerama, it should work fine.
[19:48] <alain> the but the beryl is not here :((
[19:49] <unit3> nexuiz? wuzzat?
[19:49] <Meltir> hey ppl. i want to upgrade to gutsy, but dont use gnome (so i cant really follow the howto from ubuntu.com). my question is - will the debian way of changing sources.list and running apt-get dist-upgrade work as i expect it to ?
[19:49] <robline> Jordan_U, lemme peek
[19:49] <chriswilliams> Vlet, I have a ati card, with open source drivers
[19:49] <Jordan_U> alain, Beryl is obsolete
[19:49] <ejer> Meltir: yes
[19:49] <unit3> Meltir: for the most part, yes
[19:49] <JC_Denton_> ejer, jhoz , thanks. sd = solid disk ?
[19:49] <unit3> Yeah, beryl got merged into compiz, check their page.
[19:49] <shapeshifta> It seems like sindce I upgraded to gutsy an hour ago my internet connection became unstable. I lost the connection 2 times already. I couldn't access the web with FF or opera, but the connection icon stayed "connected". Is there a known issue?
[19:49] <Jordan_U> !ops
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[19:49] <Vlet> chriswilliams: then I think you want to look into MergeFB
[19:49] <swill> after i upgraded to 7.10 i saw something about being able to disable xgl in the little lightbulb thing at the top right.  i didnt pay attention to it, and now xgl is absolutely killing performance on my machine.  i need to disable xgl, how do i do that???
[19:49] <Mavez> hehe
[19:49] <Meltir> unit3: on which part can i expect trouble (if any) ?
[19:49] <ejer> JC_Denton_: PATA disks are handled by sd like scsi now
[19:49] <jhoz> JC_Denton_: i think the s stands for secondary
[19:49] <chriswilliams> with ati open driver's what would allow me to use dual screen and use compiz fusion?
[19:49] <humbolto> Vlet: I have chosen a 1280x1024 Widescreen Monitor now. At least I could choose the right res now. We'll see in a second if it works.
[19:50] <DerDritte> I'm trying to upgrade to Gutsy and just asked myself if I can use an unpacked alternate cd?
[19:50] <robline> Jordan_U, should I edit that list and change "edgy" to "feisty"
[19:50] <robline> ?
[19:50] <linxuz3r> k
[19:50] <crdlb> swill, just uninstall xserver-xgl
[19:50] <humbolto> Don't like the fact that suddenly we need to have modelines in our xorg.confs again!
[19:50] <Mavez> haha
[19:50] <ejer> JC_Denton_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[19:50] <Taurshaz> Does the newest Ubuntu support my "ATi HD 2600 XT GDDR3 512 MB" graphics card?
[19:50] <keitsi> I installed the gutsy beta some weeks ago. I have updated all possible updates, so I'm using the exact same packages as final gutsy. Do I need to do something like "finalize" the update, or is the system already a pure final gutsy?
[19:50] <linxuz3r> hello crdlb
[19:50] <Jordan_U> DerDritte, You can, but what do you mean "unpacked" ?
[19:50] <unit3> Meltir: on previous releases I've tried doing just the dist-upgrade, and sometimes it gets confused about the order to install things, just doing dist upgrade a few more times until you run out of packages should do it. :)
[19:50] <unit3> keitsi: you're good. :)
[19:50] <ejer> keitsi: u have gutsy
[19:50] <keitsi> unit3: allright.
[19:50] <Vlet> Taurshaz: That's probably a good question for google
[19:50] <swill> crdlb that will not mess with my xorg stuff will it?  since xgl runs on top of xorg?
[19:50] <doofy`> Taurshaz, of course, but compositing wont work with the nonfree driver unless you use xgl
[19:51] <shapeshifta> It seems like sindce I upgraded to gutsy an hour ago my internet connection became unstable. I lost the connection 2 times already. I couldn't access the web with FF or opera, but the connection icon stayed "connected". Is there a known issue?
[19:51] <Jordan_U> unit3, That is why you use update-manager instead :)
[19:51] <JC_Denton_> ejer, thanks
[19:51] <Meltir> unit3, ejer: tanks guys :)
[19:51] <student23> uuuuu my Ubutu is upgrading at 45 kb/s .......;(
[19:51] <DerDritte> Jordan_U: I actually dled the alternate CD for speed reasons and don't want to 'waste' a cd (since I'm running low).
[19:51] <chriswilliams> 'MergedFB also limits 3D contexts to 2048x2048.', is that a problem?
[19:51]  * Meltir gets downloading
[19:51] <Thomsen> Hi,
[19:51] <crdlb> swill, right, then you'll just be using Xorg
[19:51] <doofy`> are the repos having trouble keeping up right now?
[19:51] <rockets> Anybody know where I can get a gutsy dvd?i
[19:51] <rockets> i cant find it
[19:51] <Taurshaz> Wish game developers would make more games Linux compatible :/
[19:51] <swill> crdlb:  thanks...
[19:51] <bXi> argh
[19:51] <luca> littleChe90
[19:51] <DerDritte> Jordan_U: *dled over torrent that is.
[19:52] <PovAddict> doofy`: guess
[19:52] <JC_Denton_> Whoo, thanks to the upgrade my mono app builds :S
[19:52] <bXi> compiz wont work :(
[19:52] <pibe86> unit3: i have install ccms , and it does not still work
[19:52] <linxuz3r> bXi: compiz is not working?
[19:52] <luca> ciao
[19:52] <Jordan_U> DerDritte, Just run the upgrade script on the CD then
[19:52] <jhoz> !ccms | bXi
[19:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ccms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:52] <santander> Q: i want to secure a network with restricted access, i'll be using a ubuntu 7.04 server with iptables as masq server. is there a way to limit the transfers of the local machines? so ex: a local machine can only download 5 MB/hour?
[19:52] <Thomsen> Question: Using gutsy with nvidia and compiz enabled: when playing video with mplayer, the video window is VERY wide and spans over several desktops. Anyone knows how to fix that?
[19:52] <unit3> pibe86: did you go to the appearance control panel and go to "custom" under desktop effects?
[19:52] <Pirate_Hunter> !themes
[19:52] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:52] <luca> ciao
[19:52] <jhoz> !ccsm | bXi
[19:52] <ubotu> bXi: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz
[19:52] <lordc> Bit of a specific problem. Has anyone got more than one soundcard installed? And knows how to set one as default?
[19:52] <bXi> linxuz3r: xgl dies on me
[19:53] <Jordan_U> santander, Yes, through squid proxy is probably the easiest way
[19:53] <eurico> hello. Just installed Gutsy Gibbon but don't have my CDROM device working :\
[19:53] <aantn> Is there a way to start up ubuntu without running bluez-utils?
[19:53] <DerDritte> Jordan_U: So no problem if I just unpack the iso somewhere on my hdd and run the script then?
[19:53] <bXi> jhoz: i already have those and that wont help xgl dying
[19:53] <unit3> aantn: yeah, disable it in your session
[19:53] <PovAddict> DerDritte: mount it, don't "unpack" it
[19:53] <aantn> unit3: I can't
[19:53] <unit3> aantn: why not?
[19:53] <Jordan_U> lordc, "asoundconf list" "asoundconf set-default-card"
[19:53] <santander> tx Jordan_U, i'll look into squid :)
[19:53] <lordc> ty
[19:53] <aantn> I can't login b/c my keyboard and mouse only work when its disabled
[19:53] <jhoz> bXi: I have found that fxgl drivers work best with my nvidia setup
[19:54] <DerDritte> PovAddict: Sorry, noob here...
[19:54] <Jordan_U> DerDritte, I would mount it instead