[20:37] <CMoH> Hello. I want to install an Ubuntu server tomorrow for an enterprise. However, I have looked up the download page there and it seems the newest version, 9.04, is supported until 2010, while the older one, 8.04, is until 2013. Which one should I choose tomorrow?
[20:38] <fccf> !lts | CMoH
[20:38] <balint> but for some reason the auth file (/etc/X99.cfg) gets overridden by a default one, /tmp/serverauth.HAsrPy9378
[20:38] <CMoH> thank you, ubottu
[20:38] <CMoH> thank you fccf actually
[20:38] <CMoH> :D
[20:38] <fccf> CMoH: Use the LTS
[20:38] <balint> so the actual process that is running is xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /usr/bin/Xvfb :1 -screen 0 1024x768x24 -auth /tmp/serverauth.HAsrPy9378
[20:38] <balint> do you know why and what can I do about it?
[20:39] <ubox> slart: hmm, apt say's i'm on the newest version
[20:39] <CMoH> fccf, am i to expect i will be able to easily upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04? (I am not primarily an ubuntu user, so I'm not familiar with your policies)
[20:40] <iceroot> CMoH: yes, because both are lts
[20:40] <lstarnes> CMoH: LTS releases can upgrade directly to new LTS releases
[20:40] <Slart> ubox: not really sure why it wouldn't find your domain then... odd..
[20:40] <Fishie> Hello lads, I've got a little problem. In ventrilo, when 2 ppl are talking, I hear 1 loud and 1 in the background. I wanna here them both on a normal sound level :>
[20:40] <schwelk> hey, i got a little problem, i followed this instructions
[20:40] <schwelk> http://www.nervous.it/2009/04/canon-pixma-mp620-wireless-on-ubuntu/, and  finally did all well, but how can I now scan with sane ? :D
[20:40] <grekkos> !compiz
[20:40] <fccf> CMoH: that is the plan, and you get the idea
[20:40] <CMoH> well, thanks a lot for your help, fccf, iceroot, lstarnes :)
[20:41] <Slart> grekkos: hmm.. odd.. well.. that's the only tool I know of for configuring compiz shortcuts.. if ccsm can't do it I don't know what can
[20:41] <adalgiso> Fishie: ventrilo allows you to control the amplitude of incoming voices per individual
[20:41] <ubox> slart: very odd indeed, it does sort of work, but gives an error code 01113
[20:41] <adalgiso> Fishie: the option is through the right click menu on someone's name, but i can't remember the exact option
[20:42] <grekkos> Slart: well the GUI suggests that it can, it provides options, they just don't seem to work
[20:42] <dassouki> is there a way to combine inbox and sent messages in thunderbird
[20:42] <Fishie> adalgiso, aha!
[20:42] <Fishie> :p
[20:43] <Slart> dassouki: well.. you can save your sent messages in the inbox instead of in the sent box if you want..
[20:44] <dassouki> i was looking for a combined view perhap inbox elements appear highlighed in a color and sent in another
[20:44] <fearful> Is there a way of changing the 'Applications Places System' names?
[20:44] <cpt> guys, tell me how can I listen to music without X?
[20:44] <ubox> this might drive me crazy, what happens when you whois www.danssmallpartsandkits.net
[20:44] <Slart> cpt: mpd might work
[20:44] <lstarnes> cpt: vlc has an ncurses frontend.  also, try mocp, cmus, or mpd
[20:45] <fccf> cpt: another option is sox ... which is easy as 'play filename'
[20:45] <Slart>  /msg ubox  I'll just paste the result here, if you don't mind..
[20:45] <homovitruvius> any application that allows me to select individual chapters of a DVD and produce a smaller (<4.4Gb) DVD? Preserving the chapter menu and working directly on .iso images a plus. Thx
[20:45] <cpt> it is more need to play playlists
[20:46] <Slart> sorry bout that
[20:46] <Slart> homovitruvius: k9 might work.. haven't tried it in a while
[20:46] <fccf> homovitruvius: that involves ripping ... dvd::rip is a program that will allow you do do that ... then recompile the dvd with devede
[20:47] <homovitruvius> fccf: I understand the ripping/rebuilding path, but I was hoping in something more authomatic
[20:48] <fccf> homovitruvius: not going to happen
[20:48] <gartral> Slart: this switch is supposed to have network managment through a web-like interface.. so it has a simple HTTP server in it somewhere
[20:48] <te> Holy!  Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 x64 is poison.  Third time installing, 2nd hard drive-- after about a day it manages to corrupt the file system so much that it cannot even recognize the partition as ext3.  It is unbelievable that this bug is currently "Undecided".  Major issue.
[20:48] <te> If you have a T60, T61, or T61p, steer clear of x64
[20:49] <ikonia> te: nonsense
[20:49] <ikonia> te: your experience does not represent the community, please don't miss-lead people like that
[20:49] <te> read the bug reports if you want
[20:49] <Kraln> your sentence doesn't represent english, please don't mislead people like that
[20:49] <Kraln> <3
[20:49] <ikonia> I'm aware there are bugs, most platforms have a bug or two
[20:49] <Guest53579> l
[20:50] <Guest53579> hi
[20:50] <Kraln> ikonia: file-system corrupting bugs are what most people would refer to as deal breakers
[20:50] <te> ikonia: massive bugs that corrupt the filesystem so bad supergrub can't even find a kernel?
[20:50] <ikonia> te: if the bug reports are that bad, shouting the odds in here isn't needed. This is a support channel
[20:50] <fearful> Is there a way of changing the 'Applications Places System' names?
[20:50] <ikonia> Kraln: yes, there are some bugs, however I'm using 9,04 on a T60 without a problem
[20:50] <te> dude.  people in here use ubuntu-- and i had to hunt for this bug without much to go on, i found what the deal is, so im sharing that information
[20:50] <clearscreen> any recommendations on rss readers that notify (through libnotify or any other pop-up-ish method)? I'm not looking for something to embed on my desktop (since I almost always have a window maximized)
[20:50] <te> ikonia: 64bit?
[20:50] <ikonia> te: you're not sharing bug information - your just saying it's rubbish
[20:50] <ikonia> te: yes,
[20:50] <te> AHCI or Compatability?
[20:51] <homovitruvius> fccf: might not have happened yet, but I don't see why it shouldn't happen ever.
[20:51] <ikonia> compatability from memory in the bios, not %100 though
[20:51] <te> no.. no you're running AHCI
[20:51] <dust_> 5299)/join #ubuntu-ko
[20:51] <te> AHCI = works, compatability = massive corruption every time
[20:51] <ikonia> I could well be, I've not got the laptop in front of me
[20:51] <te> i dare you to switch to compat.
[20:51] <te> if you think im overexaggerating
[20:51] <ikonia> I'll check it when I get into the office
[20:51] <ikonia> te: but then there is a work around, use ahci
[20:51] <te> get ready to run e2fsck
[20:52] <te> ikonia: look dude, drink your kool aid somewhere else
[20:52] <te> ciao
[20:52] <ikonia> te: that makes no sense
[20:52] <nutterpc> te, I must be lucky then, not had any dramas on my Ubuntu install on my laptop........*touch wood*
[20:53] <fccf> homovitruvius: another option would be ripping to a different format ... to allow more on the disk ... of course losing quality and adding artifacts
[20:53] <te> nutterpc: run fsck from the command line using a live cd with the disk unmounted and see if you have the slow filesystem corruption happening to you
[20:53] <te> it's worth checking out
[20:53] <nutterpc> te, if mines not broke, I ain't gunna try fixing it
[20:53] <nutterpc> :)
[20:53] <te> well -- im saying it might be in the process of breaking
[20:53] <jiffe> what are the "cloud computing cluster" and "cloud computing node" options in 9.10 ?
[20:54] <nutterpc> I also run an SSD te in my laptop
[20:54] <Pici> jiffe : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[20:54] <te> ah, that's different
[20:54] <nutterpc> Ubuntu LOVES it
[20:54] <homovitruvius> Slart: thanks k9 does exactly what I need, if it doesn't crash before finishing the DVD...
[20:54] <te> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/371191?comments=all <---that's what im talking about, yuck
[20:54] <tj83> what is current kernel version in jaunty? 2.6.28-xx?
[20:54] <Slart> homovitruvius: ah.. good.. let's hope it finishes the job =)
[20:54] <Slart> tj83: 15
[20:54] <nutterpc> te, the main bug I was working on solving was the 404 error that people were encountering with KernelCheck
[20:55] <tj83> Slart, ty
[20:55] <Slart> tj83: as in 2.6.28-15 (for my 64bit machine)
[20:55] <te> yeah 15
[20:55] <lstarnes> !info linux-image-generic jaunty | tj83
[20:55] <Slart> tj83: you're welcome
[20:55] <progenitus> how does it feel to know that Apple did all the work on Unix you guys have all been trying to (pluginwrapper, working wireless, etc.) do without any success yet?
[20:55] <nutterpc> lets just say te, debugging someone elses code is NOT fun, lol
[20:56] <progenitus> paid work gets the shit done.
[20:56] <lstarnes> progenitus: trolling is not welcome here
[20:56] <ikonia> progenitus: please control your language
[20:56] <Slart> progenitus: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic , I heard there was a big discussion there about it
[20:56] <progenitus> not trolling
[20:56] <ikonia> progenitus: it's offtopic for this channel though
[20:56] <switch10__> Anybody here have any luck getting compiz to work with big desktop with an ati card?  Ive been working on this for about a week now.
[20:56] <nutterpc> it is a form of trolling dude
[20:56] <progenitus> fair enough
[20:56] <progenitus> peace
[20:57] <ffsa> in which package can i find mpart and mkabel? i can't find anything on net
[20:57] <nutterpc> switch10__, whats it not doing?
[20:57] <dbugger> Ehy guys, can someone help me? My indicator apples never notifies me anything :(
[20:57] <Slart> !find mpart
[20:57] <te> lol -- ubuntu naziz, man.  you say one negative thing about open source or ubuntu and you get run out on a rail
[20:57] <distrohopper> why does ubuntu disable ctrl-alt-backspace?
[20:57] <Slart> !search mpart
[20:57] <te> distrohopper: it's in the spirit of community
[20:58] <lstarnes> distrohopper: it's a default setting in X not originally made by ubuntu
[20:58] <ikonia> te: stop now
[20:58] <lstarnes> !dontzap > distrohopper
[20:58] <Slart> te: it's more a question of being on topic in this channel.. this is a support channel.. not a discussion channel .. there's #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[20:58] <distrohopper> ty lstarnes
[20:58] <te> Slart: your approach is more reasoned than someone whose nick begins with an i
[20:59] <ffsa> !find mkpart
[20:59] <switch10__> nutterpc: the screen goes all scrambled.  I read that it has something to do with the max screen res that compiz will let you use
[20:59] <meatbun> j/
[20:59] <nutterpc> hmm ok switch10__ , personally I've never had a drama, but then I've used nvidia, which has greater *nix support
[21:00] <nutterpc> ATi is known to be on the catchup for *nix support
[21:00] <switch10__> nutterpc: yes this is def an ati issue
[21:00] <nutterpc> sadly
[21:00] <loldump> hi
[21:00] <loldump> quick question
[21:00] <loldump> even though hardy will be officially not supported
[21:00] <loldump> in oct. or nov.
[21:00] <loldump> will apt still work?
[21:00] <nutterpc> what screen res are you trying to use? switch10__
[21:00] <loldump> 1400x900
[21:01] <Out_Cold> loldump, the repos should still be active but not updated
[21:01] <Slart> loldump: you'll have to start using another repository.. the regular one will disappear / change name
[21:01] <loldump> ok thanks!
[21:01] <lstarnes> loldump: hardy is a long term support release
[21:01] <switch10__> 2048x800
[21:01] <lstarnes> loldump: it should last until april 2010 on desktops
[21:01] <loldump> ok :)
[21:01] <nutterpc> switch10__, that's a widescreen mode, correct?
[21:01] <IdleOne> !hardy
[21:02] <gartral> Slart: nope...
[21:02] <switch10__> Ya ive tried a few others but it didnt look right
[21:02] <eguesttest> hello
[21:02] <nutterpc> at what res have you found you can go up to before it starts corruption issues?
[21:02] <eguesttest> hows everyone doing
[21:02] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Good evening all.....Forgive me for using "bad language" but can anyone point me in the direction of I.E for Linux? I had it installed b4, but never use it 'cos I love Firefox....but am having trouble with a site 'n have been told to use I.E.! :(
[21:02] <eguesttest> have aquick  question
[21:03] <Slart> gartral: "nope"?
[21:03] <nutterpc> Chiselhuk_Plus1, install wine, run thru that
[21:03] <lstarnes> Chiselhuk_Plus1: you could fake the user agent string in firefox so that sites think that you have IE
[21:03] <lstarnes> Chiselhuk_Plus1: also, look up ies4linux
[21:03] <switch10__> nutterpc: it corrupts at every res ive tried
[21:03] <eguesttest> how do you set the order in which aptitude gets the list of packages
[21:03] <Pici> !ies4linux | Chiselhuk_Plus1
[21:03] <flugh> Hello #ubuntu. I'm fighting with 9.04+USB 881 modem. worked up to 8.10. i can make it work in console with wvdial, then manually add default gateway. anyone have a tip on how i can make the gnome network applet figure this out?
[21:03] <nutterpc> switch10__, that is odd
[21:04] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> nutterpc: I already have wine installed.
[21:04] <giveflagiu> !list
[21:04] <nutterpc> have you tried using the max res switch10__ using the default X driver?
[21:04] <switch10__> nutterpc: ya im pretty sure its my ati card.
[21:04] <eguesttest> i have some package which i need to install but i  want to let the list download that package first
[21:04] <gartral> Slart: nmap doesn't see my switch
[21:04] <switch10__> nutterpc: have not tried that
[21:04] <eguesttest> i mean i want apt-get upload to download to download that package first
[21:05] <Slart> gartral: oh... hmm.. you're sure it doesn't use a weird port number?
[21:05] <eguesttest> i mean i want apt-get update to download to download that package first
[21:05] <eguesttest> any ideas
[21:05] <fuzzybunny> hey everyone does anyone have any experience with getting dialup modems to work in Ubuntu? I want to use the modem on my laptop to make voice calls is this even possible or do I need a special type of modem?
[21:05] <nutterpc> try that switch10__ see what using the default driver does for now. And in the meantime I would suggest googling to see if anyone else has had the same issue
[21:06] <nightcrow> can someone point me in the right direction to how to set up a dns on my ubuntu server...
[21:06] <nightcrow> step by step preferably
[21:06] <nightcrow> google produces some nice things, but pretty out of date i guess
[21:06] <switch10__> nutterpc: thanks
[21:06] <Slart> nightcrow: are you sure you want a full dns? not just a forwarding dns?
[21:07] <nightcrow> Slart: sec - ill show you the conf file that i have
[21:07] <nightcrow> sec, ill pastie it
[21:07] <Slart> nightcrow: I have a much better idea.. why don't you just answer my question =)
[21:08] <JuJuBee> Yesterday I did an update and when I tried to restart and login, I have no session type anymore. I just installed ubuntu-desktop but what happened to my kde installation?  I originally installed kubuntu
[21:08] <guntbert> nightcrow: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html ?
[21:08] <gartral> brb
[21:08] <nightcrow> Slart: because im not sure :)
[21:09] <nightcrow> guntbert: thanks - checking
[21:09] <nightcrow> Slart: seems like i just need forwarding
[21:09] <nightcrow> Slart: http://pastebin.com/m4276a2d8
[21:09] <nightcrow> i need to use that conf
[21:10] <stinky_> anyone know where xkill keeps its icon? TIA :)
[21:10] <Slart> nightcrow: ah.. thought so.. that makes things much simpler.. I think there's even a ready-made package for it.. can't remember the name though
[21:10] <nightcrow> Slart: did you see the pastie?
[21:11] <Slart> nightcrow: that looks like something for a full dns server
[21:11] <JazzplayerL9> random question...this is my first time messing with pulseaudio...used to setting a default sound level with sudo alsactl store...but that doesn't seem to work to keep my sound levels right and I have to go back into alsamixer to change them again.  How do I set a default sound level?
[21:12] <legendre> question.. in jaunty, how can I have several simultaneous logins?
[21:12] <legendre> X desktop, that is..
[21:12] <NickName> humm.
[21:12] <aaronorosen> legendre: why?
[21:13] <Jihui> it's not easy to use irssi.
[21:13] <dragon> does debtorrent actually speed up the downloads?
[21:13] <legendre> aaronorosen: because I need to. I need to have several users logged in at once, and be able to switch with ctral-altf7,9 etc
[21:13] <guntbert> legendre: do you mean like "fast user switching"?
[21:13] <monster_> debtorrent sounds awesome
[21:13] <legendre> guntbert: yes, perhaps
[21:13] <stinky_> Jihui: , yea, try xchat or pidgin... irssi is really not verry user friendly
[21:14] <aaronorosen> legendre: you can use su and change to each user... ?
[21:14] <legendre> it worked great in earlier versions..
[21:14] <stinky_> Iuse irssi, but only because of its low memory footprint
[21:14] <dragon> !debtorrent
[21:14] <legendre> aaronorosen: you're missing the point
[21:14] <BlackDesign> Jihui: You'll get used to it... I find it easier then Xchat
[21:14] <FiLtHySLoB> hey
[21:14] <Falchion> Hi
[21:14] <FiLtHySLoB> can any2 teach me
[21:14] <FiLtHySLoB> how to use terminal
[21:14] <Falchion> interest
[21:14] <aaronorosen> legendre: I don't see why that would ever need to be done.
[21:15] <dragon> !terminal | FiLtHySLoB
[21:15] <FiLtHySLoB> hahaha
[21:15] <FiLtHySLoB> i have no idea wat im doing in here
[21:15] <Jihui> BlackDesign: I hope so, cause I can't connect any irc server at my school.
[21:15] <legendre> aaronorosen: so several users can use the same machine, silly.
[21:15] <dbugger> Can someone help me with the indicator applet¿
[21:15] <legendre> without having to log in & out every time.
[21:15] <Out_Cold> FiLtHySLoB, trolling?? i seen you in #debian
[21:15] <guntbert> legendre: don't you have that applet which shows the user name and provides shut down,... too?
[21:15] <Jihui> So I connect this erver through my external server
[21:15] <FiLtHySLoB> i am at school :)
[21:15] <BlackDesign> Jihui: maybe because they block IRC servers?
[21:15] <FiLtHySLoB> u need to use putty
[21:15] <FiLtHySLoB> itll work
[21:15] <aaronorosen> legendre: you can setup xinit or vncserver.
[21:15] <dragon> !anyone | dbugger
[21:15] <FiLtHySLoB> direct it to your server
[21:15] <stinky_> Jihui: type /server irc.freenode.net
[21:15] <FiLtHySLoB> and then boom!@
[21:15] <FiLtHySLoB> HAXOR!@
[21:15] <legendre> aaronorosen: THERE IS ONLY ONE MACHINE, lol
[21:15] <FloodBot3> FiLtHySLoB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:16] <Jihui> Ihave no idea.
[21:16] <dbugger> My indicator apples never notifies me anything :(
[21:16] <FiLtHySLoB> im flooding?
[21:16] <aaronorosen> legendre: still don't see what your trying to do..
[21:16] <guntbert> !shout | legendre
[21:16] <legendre> guntbert: before, I just hit ctrl-alt-del to lock the session, and xscreensaver had a "new login" button.. it no longer has that
[21:16] <stinky_> Jihui: then you can choose a channel by typeing /join #ubuntu
[21:16] <xQuasar> I've just installed the mysql-client for ubuntu, how the hell do i start it up?
[21:16] <Jihui> FiLtHySLoB: I'm using putty now.
[21:16] <legendre> aaronorosen: that's really obvious
[21:16] <Jihui> stinky_: I know where I am. :)
[21:17] <FiLtHySLoB> Jihui
[21:17] <stinky_> :D
[21:17] <xQuasar> I've just installed the mysql-client for ubuntu, how the hell do i start it up?
[21:17] <stinky_> !xkill
[21:17] <aaronorosen> legendre: just use `su` that will do w/e you want to...
[21:17] <FiLtHySLoB> hey any1 here heared of knight Online?
[21:17] <lstarnes> xQuasar: it's a command-line application run as mysql
[21:17] <ikonia> FiLtHySLoB: this is a support channel for ubuntu only
[21:17] <jpds> !ot | FiLtHySLoB
[21:17] <ikonia> FiLtHySLoB: please check the topic
[21:17] <khalfan> #ubuntu
[21:17] <FiLtHySLoB> i was gonna take it to that...
[21:17] <lstarnes> aaronorosen, legendre: su shouldn't be used.  sudo -i is preferred
[21:17] <legendre> aaronorosen: again, just accept the fact that you can't understand what I'm asking about. It has nothing to do with su, sudo, etc
[21:17] <FiLtHySLoB> i wanna run it off ubuntu
[21:18] <ikonia> FiLtHySLoB: ok, so what's the problem ?
[21:18] <legendre> guys, I've been using linux exclusively since 1997..
[21:18] <FiLtHySLoB> it doesnt let me take it public in  other words onto the net
[21:18] <FiLtHySLoB> says sometin bout critical local host
[21:18] <legendre> I know how to use it.. I just can't figure out where the 'new login' option went,
[21:18] <guntbert> legendre: there is a "fast user switch applet" to add to your panel, but at the moment I don't know the package name
[21:18] <legendre> in jaunty, that is..
[21:19] <xQuasar> Is the only way to run mysql-client by commandline?
[21:19] <dragon> legendre: you mean, `useradd`?
[21:19] <legendre> guntbert: that's the other odd thing. If I lock the session, the password prompt has a 'switch user' button, but it does nothing.
[21:19] <legendre> dragon: no, definitely not.
[21:20] <dragon> legendre: are you trying to keep the current session running and start another, as a different user?
[21:20] <ikonia> xQuasar: look at mysql administrator and mysql-admin
[21:20] <legendre> seriously, there is some app, can't recall the name that does: starts new xserver on next display, switches to that display, and runs the login manager.
[21:20] <legendre> dragon: yes!
[21:20] <djdarkman> hello, I have a laptop that I always use with an external display which has a higher resolution, my problem is that the desktop wallpaper looks akward, it doesn't use my full desktop, how can I make it use my full desktop?
[21:21] <hwilde> legendre, I believe you are talking about ctrl+alt+f8 or f9
[21:21] <legendre> dragon: it was really easy in Edgy, and so on .. can't see how to do it in JJ
[21:21] <duffydack> I got an rsyc error now which Ive never had before.  rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1058) [sender=3.0.5]
[21:21] <dragon> !info xserver-xephyr | legendre
[21:21] <guntbert> legendre: here it definitely works, try that applet, maybe you can add it to your panel straight away (didn't try the way via screensaver though)
[21:21] <legendre> hwilde: sure, that is used to switch between sessions.. IF you can start them
[21:22] <lstarnes> .21
[21:22] <legendre> guntbert: so you say there's a panel applet for it.. let me look (this is xubuntu, btw)
[21:22] <lstarnes> oops.
[21:22] <dragon> legendre: If you have user switcher applet, it's called "Switch User". If you go to "System > Log out" otherwise, you'll see a switch user option.
[21:22] <legendre> guntbert: ok, I already have it.. lol. But it doesn't start a new session..
[21:23] <dragon> legendre: what i said was applicable to gnome.
[21:23] <legendre> dragon: aye.
[21:23] <guntbert> legendre: do you want another session with the *same* user?
[21:24] <fuzzybunny> If I just have a Conexant® HDAUDIO SoftV92 Data Fax Modem can I make voice calls with it?
[21:24] <dragon> legendre: did you notice the package that i mentioned above? "xserver-xephyr"
[21:24] <j0nr> evening
[21:24] <clearscreen> any recommendations on rss readers that notify (through libnotify or any other pop-up-ish method)? I'm not looking for something to embed on my desktop (since I almost always have a window maximized)
[21:24] <legendre> guntbert: no, with a different user. I used to do this all of the time in vanilla slack, there's nothing special required.
[21:24] <dragon> j0nr: evenin', commissioner.
[21:24] <nightcrow> Slart: ok - so what do i do?
[21:24] <legendre> command like startx -- :1
[21:24] <nightcrow> :-/
[21:25] <Slart> nightcrow: there wasn't a howto on that link you were sent?
[21:25] <guntbert> legendre: strange, I even have a "guest session" here, and it works
[21:25] <nightcrow> well, not really
[21:25] <nightcrow> im looking more for a step by step guide
[21:25] <nightcrow> you see, i have the config... i just need to set up the dns and then ill overwrite the conf file
[21:25] <heater> After running some updates, Ubuntu 9.04 has no sound can anyone help?
[21:25] <legendre> guntbert: yeah, this is a total mystery to me.. it was there in Edgy, but not in jaunty
[21:26] <legendre> and it's bloody useful!
[21:26] <nightcrow> Slart: the pastie were the zones
[21:26] <Slart> nightcrow: I don't really know of any other howto's, sorry.. but I think most of the ones you'll find on the net should work.. even if they are a bit outdated
[21:26] <nightcrow> Slart: http://pastebin.com/m4276a2d8
[21:26] <nightcrow> ah, i see
[21:26] <nightcrow> ok
[21:26] <nightcrow> thank you buddy
[21:26] <FloodBot3> nightcrow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <nightcrow> hehehe - sorrry guys :)
[21:27] <guntbert> nightcrow: the server guide tells you what you need to install DNS, step by step instructions are not too common these days :)
[21:27] <nightcrow> guntbert: :) there must be something out there - i guess thats why google doesnt spit anything decent out :p
[21:27] <dwarder> is it safe to rename /etc/rc2.d/S20vsftpd  to /etc/rc2.d/K20vsftpd  with mv command?
[21:27] <aayush> hi all
[21:27] <dwarder> what is the proper way of doing it?
[21:28] <aayush> i gt a small problem
[21:28] <jrib> dwarder: use sysv-rc-conf
[21:28] <aayush> my system has ubuntu 8.04 n xp
[21:28] <aayush> installed
[21:28] <heater> Here are the audio errors that i get if someone can help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/288088/
[21:28] <guntbert> nightcrow: step by steps tend to get outdated very soon, anyway understanding the concepts should be a primary goal - especially on a server
[21:28] <stylist> hi ppl
[21:29] <stylist> how do i kill X to install the latest nvidia.com driver ?
[21:29] <nightcrow> guntbert: i agree - but not when im so limited with time :-(
[21:29] <dwarder> jrib: is it command, i don't have sysv-rc-conf binary?
[21:29] <jrib> dwarder: install it
[21:29] <stylist> killing the X process, just means Xorg automatically restards:(
[21:29] <legendre> Ok, I just did it.. manually. So I know I don't need any nested X stuff
[21:29] <heater> stylist: i would be careful with the nvidia driver, i have had to do a couple reinstalls because it messed up
[21:29] <legendre> just opened a console, logged in, and ran startx -- :1
[21:29] <warriorforgod> aayush: So what is  your issue?
[21:29] <stylist> ok heater
[21:29] <legendre> so where is the stupid applet? lol
[21:30] <gunknown> hi. Is there anybody using pidgin with msn without problems?
[21:30] <bastid_raZor> stylist: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   ;will keep it stopped
[21:30] <aayush> hi all my ubuntu had grub which was showing sm problems for other os so i had configured lilo how can i can switch back to grub now plz i m new
[21:30] <KKSlider> hi everyone. I dont know a lot about ubuntu, but my bro has 7.10 on his pc.... it fails trying to download any package from the repository. anybody have any ideas why that might be?
[21:30] <dwarder> jrib: is that prefered way over update-rc.d ?
[21:30] <joeb3_> gunknown, using 2.5.5. no problems.
[21:30] <and0r> I installed a theme called Wasp, and it came with a script to make OpenOffice use the same colors or somehting... is it possible to make OpenOffice go back to default colors?
[21:30] <jrib> dwarder: yes (see the update-rc.d man page)
[21:30] <bastid_raZor> heater: you had to reinstall because of a video driver?
[21:30] <stylist> thank you so much bastid_raZor :D
[21:31] <dwarder> jrib: i'm on 8.10 box
[21:31] <jrib> dwarder: ok
[21:31] <heater> bastid_raZor: idk what it did, but i made a backup of my xorg.conf file, and even replacing the only one after the nvidia stuff ran wouldn't get me back to my proper resolutions
[21:31] <aayush> warrior: u saw
[21:31] <guntbert> nightcrow: in the meantime you could have read The Complete Chapter 7 of the server guide - and followed it :-)
[21:31] <Doc_Lappy> wasp did you make sure there's not an options or preferences on openoffice to change theme back?
[21:31] <heater> bastid_raZor: old**
[21:31] <stylist> thank bastid_raZor, now the nvidia driver installer is running ok :)
[21:32] <ctmjr> KKSlider: 7.10 is at end of life it is no longer supported
[21:32] <KKSlider> ctmjr: ah, so most packages probably arent even there anymore for 7.10?
[21:32] <jbwiv> hello all. So I just ran an upgrade via apt-get to upgrade to Koala, but on boot I get a grub error: "Error 15: not found". I'm betting this is because I use LVM + Software Raid (although upgrade has worked in the past). Any ideas what I can do or do I simply have to download the alternative cd and install manually?
[21:32] <heater> bastid_raZor: can you help with an audio issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/288088/
[21:32] <jrib> jbwiv: #ubuntu+1 for karmic support
[21:33] <jbwiv> jrib: ok, thanks
[21:33] <ctmjr> KKSlider: yep you should tell him to upgrade to 8.04
[21:33] <aayush> hi all my ubuntu had grub which was showing sm problems for other os so i had configured lilo how can i can switch back to grub now plz i m new
[21:33] <bastid_raZor> heater: what are you doing to get this error?
[21:33] <RajKhN> hi, I'm a noob ^^: I am using ubuntu mounted with a VirtualBox, and I set the shared folder in VB, but now, how do I access it on ubuntu?
[21:33] <Doc_Lappy> and0r that wasp was meant for you sorry I was doing something else and got distracted, I don't use openoffice but most all programmes you can change the them back IF there is more than one theme available for it
[21:34] <and0r> I cant find any "default" button in OpenOffice, I'll keep looking tho
[21:34] <KKSlider> right thanks for that ctmjr. will that have to totally wipe over the current install?
[21:34] <nightcrow> guntbert: link me please :)
[21:34] <heater> bastid_raZor: trying to "test" the sound, as well as open volume control
[21:34] <guntbert> nightcrow: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html ?
[21:34] <heater> bastid_raZor: sound used to work perfectly fine until an update i believe
[21:34] <dwarder> jrib: sorry i don't get it, what is better update-rc.d or sysv-rc-conf?
[21:34] <nightcrow> guntbert: nope - but now i have
[21:34] <nightcrow> :)
[21:35] <Doc_Lappy> and0r there may not be I just wanted to make sure you weren't mistaking the obvious that's usualy what I find it's the things over looked instead of something hard, good luck
[21:35] <ctmjr> KKSlider: no just run sudo update manager -d and it should upgrade to next release
[21:35] <guntbert> and0r: there is a channel #openoffice.org too
[21:35] <aayush> hi all my ubuntu had grub which was showing sm problems for other os so i had configured lilo how can i can switch back to grub now plz i m new
[21:35] <KKSlider> thankyou very much for your help ctmjr.
[21:35] <jrib> dwarder: update-rc.d's man page explains users should use sysv-rc-conf
[21:35] <dwarder> jrib: thank you
[21:35] <guntbert> nightcrow: I sent that right after your first question
[21:35] <and0r> but Im not sure if this is something the OpenOffice channel can help with, since the colors were changed by a script the maker of the GTK theme made.
[21:35] <heater> bastid_raZor: many forums said to add myself to the "audio" group....that has not worked still same problems after restart
[21:36] <ctmjr> KKSlider: your welcome and it is sudo update-manager -d sorry
[21:36] <KKSlider> ah, ok then thanks
[21:36] <nightcrow> guntbert: must have missed it
[21:36] <aayush> hi all my ubuntu had grub which was showing sm problems for other os so i had configured lilo how can i can switch back to grub now plz i m new
[21:36] <RajKhN> anyone?
[21:36] <guntbert> nightcrow: :)
[21:36] <blackjak> guys  I thought that sudo can do anything
[21:36] <blackjak> here is the output
[21:37] <[fade]> what is your question RajKhN
[21:37] <blackjak> wine: /home/gw/.wine is not owned by you
[21:37] <aayush> hi all my ubuntu had grub which was showing sm problems for other os so i had configured lilo how can i can switch back to grub now plz i m new
[21:37] <[fade]> do not run it as sudo blackjak
[21:37] <[fade]> blackjak run as user gw
[21:37] <SmithKurosaki> But, if it's not owned by you, sudo should work
[21:37] <blackjak> I thought that root can do anything .
[21:37] <[fade]> SmithKurosaki  i tried via sudo few days ago, got same error
[21:37] <SmithKurosaki> Now, there are something that work strictly better while being pute root
[21:37] <[fade]> he must run it as gw
[21:38] <blackjak> even execute programs that are not owned by the root
[21:38] <SmithKurosaki> *pure
[21:38] <eja> anyone know how to change the default options for pm-suspend?
[21:38] <SmithKurosaki> Root is tres shint
[21:38] <[fade]> blackjak  gw= go wild ?
[21:38] <blackjak> yes
[21:38] <andrew__> hi, can somebody help me diagnose a crash, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for in the logs, I'm running linux mint
[21:38] <guntbert> !gksudo | [fade] , blackjak
[21:38] <aayush> can sm1 helpme
[21:39] <SmithKurosaki> aayush: What's up
[21:39] <aayush> smith: hi all my ubuntu had grub which was showing sm problems for other os so i had configured lilo how can i can switch back to grub now plz i m new
[21:39] <SmithKurosaki> The problem is that there are a lot of people here, so not everyone gets notices
[21:39] <blackjak> ok
[21:39] <SmithKurosaki> sm = some?
[21:39] <aayush> yea
[21:40] <heater> anyone here good with audio problems in Ubuntu? My sound used to work, now I just get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/288088/
[21:40] <SmithKurosaki> Ok, I need to go afk for ~5, pm me and I will read it when I am bacl
[21:40] <guntbert> andrew__: For the official channel join the irc.spotchat.org server | Forum : http://www.linuxmint.com/forum | Wiki : http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki | Web site : http://www.linuxmint.com
[21:40] <Doc_Lappy> can anybody tell me if a lets say 25 minute show will go on a cd, I want to save all the red dwarf episodes I can and thinking of just burning some instead of re dling all 8 seasons that took like 2 weeks if not more with my really slow connextion
[21:40] <guntbert> andrew__: mint is not supported *here*
[21:41] <[fade]> blackjak what is your job?
[21:41] <andrew__> @guntbert channel is virtually deserted, I would expect my problem to apply to linux mint though as it is based on ubuntu
[21:41] <bastid_raZor> heater: are you testing pulseaudio or alsa when this happens? one of the choices in the drop down should give you sound
[21:41] <and0r> is there a way to "alt-tab" in Irssi?
[21:41] <[fade]> yes
[21:41] <[fade]> alt+1
[21:41] <[fade]> and so on, 2,3,4,5
[21:41] <Out_Cold> heater, it sems you are missing gstreamer plugins.. try and re/install them through synaptic or apt
[21:41] <and0r> thanks
[21:41] <aayush> help:P
[21:42] <heater> bastid_raZor: none give me sound i "don't have access"
[21:42] <guntbert> andrew__: "based on " != "is", so ...
[21:42] <[fade]> aayush your grub is lost?
[21:42] <aayush> na its there
[21:42] <aayush> grub
[21:42] <[fade]> i do not understand your question then
[21:43] <aayush> fade: i had ubuntu 8,04 n xp in my system
[21:43] <[fade]> aayush and ?
[21:43] <andrew__> guntbert: isn't kernel error logging the same though?
[21:44] <aayush> grub was showing am problem for booting xp .. so my friend configured lilo for me .. still xp is not booting .. so i want to switch back to grub
[21:44] <[fade]> boot ubuntu cd and bring back grub
[21:44] <heater> Out_Cold: I am reinstalling gstreamer packages now
[21:44] <aayush> fade: hope u gt n idea nw
[21:44] <[fade]> for more info, use google
[21:44] <[fade]> there is load of howtos online
[21:44] <aayush> kk
[21:44] <Out_Cold> heater, make sure you install the good, bad and ugly
[21:44] <aayush> thanx neway
[21:45] <and0r> Aayush, I think you should type properly when asking for help. it's hard to understand you
[21:45] <guntbert> andrew__: I don't want to discuss - my only contribution was a pointer to some more appropriate places :-)
[21:45] <aayush> sryy i m new to irc thats y .. will get use to it
[21:45] <heater> bastid_raZor: neither pulseaudio nor alsa work, but i need alsa because im using HDMI audio(which did work before what ever happened happened)
[21:45] <andrew__> guntbert: ok, thanks anyhow
[21:45] <and0r> it's not only irc, it's how you use shorten the words. :)
[21:45] <heater> Out_Cold: ok i did, will i need a restart?
[21:46] <guntbert> !u | aayush
[21:46] <Out_Cold> heater, you may have to restart alsa
[21:46] <prajjwal> !grub
[21:46] <heater> Out_Cold: how do i do that?
[21:46] <borg_> I've a problem. apt-get, man, aptitude and other things appear to be broken. how can I reinstall them or the linux base?
[21:46] <and0r> nice bot :)
[21:46] <vigo> aayush: The error is Windows will not Boot?
[21:47] <Doc_Lappy> well I can't find how to use ffmpg to convert avi to MPEG1 or MPEG2, do I not have something configured or not using it right, or does anybody use it enough to know, also be willing to use a gui to do it I just gotta get avi so I can play it on a dvd player
[21:47] <Out_Cold> heater, /etc/init.d/alsa restart maybe?
[21:47] <lstarnes> borg_: in what way are they broken>
[21:47] <guntbert> heater: what Out_Cold said, but with sudo :-)
[21:47] <borg_> broken as is someone removed some packages they should not have and as a result, they do not work anymore so i need to fix them somehow. :s
[21:48] <losha> Doc_Lappy: what are you trying to convert from and to?
[21:48] <pdx> can some help me learn how to install a .bin file?
[21:48] <Out_Cold> guntbert, i use ubuntu as a VM so i'm a little rusty on some commands
[21:48] <lstarnes> borg_: which packages were removed?
[21:48] <DaZ> pdx: ./binfile
[21:48] <guntbert> pdx: what software are you trying to install?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> pdx: chmod +x <binfile>; ./<binfile>
[21:48] <gunknown> i want to know which version of a library will be in ubuntu 9.10
[21:48] <lstarnes> borg_: you could probably mount the system on a live cd and install packages that way
[21:48] <and0r> is the terminal window's transparent option just a fake one? it's not really transparent, just shows a part of the wallpaper.
[21:48] <gunknown> where can i check this?
[21:48] <borg_> lstarnes, to be honest I don't even know the full extent of what is missing.
[21:48] <pdx> trying to install the rubystack from bitnami.org on a fresh 9.04 desktop
[21:48] <lstarnes> gunknown: which library package?
[21:48] <aayush> problem that i am facing is may be my windows parttion is inside an extended partition that is why grub showing an error there
[21:48] <Doc_Lappy> .avi to .MPEG1 or .MPEG2 either one burning with k3b and won't allow .avi files apparently
[21:49] <monster_> borg_: reinstall the application via apt-get
[21:49] <gunknown> libpurple and pidgin
[21:49] <borg_> lstarnes, well it's a VPS so live-cd is a not possible.
[21:49] <vigo> Doc_Lappy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[21:49] <guntbert> Out_Cold: np, I didn't want to criticize - just a hint to heater
[21:49] <Doc_Lappy> just found devede maybe I can figure out how to use it
[21:49] <Doc_Lappy> thanks vigo
[21:49] <lstarnes> gunknown: /msg ubottu info PACKAGENAME karmic
[21:49] <Out_Cold> gunknown, i *think* both versions are 2.6.2
[21:49] <addisonj_> hmm so i am backing up a machine using rsync... realized i forgot to add a --links switch, so symlinks are not being copied...
[21:49] <aayush> vigo : hi all my ubuntu had grub which was showing sm problems for other os so i had configured lilo how can i can switch back to grub now plz i m new
[21:49] <pdx> here's my post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1285303&highlight=bin+file
[21:49] <phoe61> how do I find out the encoding used by the OS or filesystem?
[21:49] <phoe61> I know it is UTF8
[21:49] <losha> Doc_Lappy: yeah, devede should do it...
[21:49] <prajjwal> aayush, look at my PM
[21:49] <aayush> vigo:  problem that i am facing is may be my windows parttion is inside an extended partition that is why grub showing an error there
[21:50] <heater> Out_Cold guntbert, says there is no such file or directory
[21:50] <DaZ> phoe61: locale
[21:50] <SmithKurosaki> ok I am back
[21:50] <addisonj_> debating if i should even bother with the sym links
[21:50] <f00fSteR> anyone here familiar with setting up openvpn... i needed to set it up on a production server and didnt wanna fuck up anything
[21:50] <f00fSteR> mess*
[21:50] <f00fSteR> oops
[21:50] <FloodBot3> f00fSteR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <monster_> f00fSteR: build a dev box
[21:50] <Out_Cold> i usually run most of my commands from a root shell also, eliminating the need for sudo and repetitive passwords (my pass is over 15 characters) lol
[21:50] <SmithKurosaki> aayush: Are you saying that you have a windows partition that is not the first partition on the drive?
[21:50] <phoe61> DaZ: thanks, but locale gives LANG_* env variables and they all are en_IN
[21:50] <f00fSteR> monster_: i have to get it out EOD
[21:50] <phoe61> that's language details.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Out_Cold: thats why sudo has a grace period
[21:51] <heater> Out_Cold guntbert, nvm got it, but didn't fix anything
[21:51] <gunknown> ok, thanks. Nice bot :D
[21:51] <monster_> f00fSteR: sounds bad
[21:51] <DaZ> phoe61: i have encoding after this :f
[21:51] <vigo> aayush: That is rather involved, fix-grub use to and maybe still does work.
[21:51] <SmithKurosaki> Out_Cold / ActionParsnip : Mine normally lasts until I kill the shell
[21:51] <terry> I want to write a script to automate a service. Is there a help page for this?
[21:51] <stylist> nvidia driver update went smoothly bastid_raZor, heater
[21:51] <Out_Cold> ActionParsnip, yea that's fine and dandy till you wait 10 mins but a root shell imo serves it's purpose well
[21:51] <guntbert> !root | Out_Cold please don't recommend that here
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> SmithKurosaki: the grace period is 10 mins default i think
[21:52] <manuel____> \disconnect
[21:52] <SmithKurosaki> heh
[21:52] <Out_Cold> i wasn't lol
[21:52] <losha> borg_: if stuff was removed via apt-get etc. there will be a log of all changes in /var/log/dpkg.log*
[21:53] <SmithKurosaki> guntbert: At the same time, having a root shell does spare you entering your password more than once
[21:53] <heater> Out_Cold, guntbert: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2dc4ee72 here is the error of restarting alsa
[21:53] <SmithKurosaki> And it makes doing certain things easier
[21:53] <vigo> aayush: The point I cannot figure out on my own is what to do with that Lilo, maybe fix-grub will replace it, but it also may take some command line stuff that I am not aware of.
[21:53] <guntbert> Out_Cold: the last guy running a root shell managed to chmod his complete /etc by accident :-)
[21:53] <borg_> losha, so if I check the log, get the apt-get version, do dpkg -i packagename-version it should install if I fetch the package manually?
[21:53] <SmithKurosaki> I can never remember what the actual command is for sudo nautilus thought
[21:53] <Out_Cold> lmao.. well fair enough, root shells are not for the light hearted
[21:53] <guntbert> heater: I'm not good with sound :-)
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> SmithKurosaki: gksudo ;)
[21:54] <heater> guntbert: ok thanks :)
[21:54] <SmithKurosaki> Thank yiu
[21:54] <greensimian> Hey gang
[21:54] <Out_Cold> yea i'm not too great either.. maybe try reinstalling alsa?
[21:54] <monster_> f00fSteR: are you only trying to connect the server to a vpn?
[21:54] <greensimian> I moved my Ubuntu setup to new hardware and have some remaining issues.  Do I just shout them out here?
[21:54] <guntbert> SmithKurosaki: please read my last sentence which I sent to Out_Cold
[21:54] <monster_> f00fSteR: or are you trying to host the vpn?
[21:54] <heater> Out_Cold: alright ill give that a shot, thanks for trying :)
[21:54] <f00fSteR> monster_: host
[21:55] <f00fSteR> we need it for 2-3 remote assholes
[21:55] <losha> borg_: yes, but once you know what to reinstall, it's even easier is to just do apt-get install --reinstall <package>   Chances are the .deb package is still cached in /var/cache/apt/archives/ anyway, but if not, apt-get will take care of it. No need to manually download...
[21:55] <guntbert> !ohmy | f00fSteR
[21:55] <f00fSteR> i just dont kno how to go about doing it without messing things up... i hear it's real networking voodoo unless you do it using openvz
[21:55] <WhiteCrow1> hi guys
[21:55] <spider> hey
[21:55] <guntbert> !hi
[21:55] <monster_> f00fSteR: you dont have a virtual environment where you can throw up another instance of ubuntu?
[21:55] <losha> f00fSteR: your users must just love you...
[21:56] <greensimian> Does any one have experience wrestling the Nvidia gods?  I have my screen looking good at 1600x1280 but when I reboot it reverts back to 1280x1024
[21:56] <WhiteCrow1> i want to remove complittly gnome , what can i do?
[21:56] <spider> install KDE
[21:56] <f00fSteR> losha: ohh my did i speak of them that way... lol c'mon i'm it they're marketing... would you have it any other way ;)
[21:56] <f00fSteR> monster_: well openvz would create a virtual instance no ?
[21:56] <Out_Cold> spider, WhiteCrow1 just installling KDE does not remove gnome
[21:56] <aayush>  vigo and smith: i have reinstalled grub lets see .. i ll go for a rebbot
[21:57] <WhiteCrow1> f00fSteR: i want use shell
[21:57] <WhiteCrow1> ops
[21:57] <ac1336> Hey
[21:57] <spider> whiteCrowl: why completely remove it? just use KDE instead!
[21:57] <guntbert> !terminal | WhiteCrow1
[21:57] <Out_Cold> heater, "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" is what the command is i was looking for
[21:58] <monster_> f00fSteR: openvz looks like a better solution
[21:58] <losha> WhiteCrow1: it can be done, but unless you are very short of space, it's not worth the bother...
[21:58] <pdx> I could use some help installing a bin file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1285303
[21:58] <monster_> if you gonna be running it on a production server that has multipe purposes
[21:58] <SmithKurosaki> Yea, well amateurs shouldn't be constantly running one, but people who are more experienced it's not such a big deal
[21:58] <losha> f00fSteR: kill them with kindness...
[21:59] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:59] <Out_Cold> pdx, the proper way to start a binary is to cd <directory; ./binfile
[21:59] <pdx> yes I know but my issue is that it won't start
[21:59] <WhiteCrow1> ok tnx all of your guys
[21:59] <joaopinto> pdx, what are you trying to run ?
[22:00] <Out_Cold> pdx, is that your post on the forums?
[22:00] <pdx> rubystack installer from bitnami
[22:00] <pdx> yes
[22:00] <artnie> hi guys
[22:00] <Out_Cold> pdx, you say that you are trying to install using "sudo filename.bin"
[22:00] <joaopinto> pdx, have you set the binary +x ?
[22:00] <lstarnes> pdx: try sudo sh filename.bin
[22:01] <heater> Out_Cold: yea thanks, it looks as if everything is there...if i run a "lspci -v" my sound card says Capabilities: <Access Denied>
[22:01] <pdx> sudo sh installer.bin or ./installer.bin give syntax error "(" unexpected
[22:02] <pdx> ls
[22:02] <pdx> oops wrong window :)
[22:02] <heater> Out_Cold: i just think i need to have access to it then i will be fine
[22:02] <Out_Cold> 0_o never run across that before.. maybe someone else can assist with that. Are you a part of the alsa group?
[22:03] <heater> Out_Cold: yea just an fyi ;), no im not didn't know there was one
[22:03] <aduarte_> gultij
[22:03] <aayush> hi m back thanks i have restored my grub successfully
[22:03] <Keiichi> Hello
[22:03] <sebsebseb> Keiichi: hi
[22:04] <Out_Cold> heater, check out /etc/groups
[22:04] <heater> Out_Cold: there are no alsa groups, checked :p
[22:04] <Out_Cold> sound?
[22:04] <Out_Cold> something similar?
[22:05] <heater> nope, made audio because that helped some people, but not me
[22:05] <Keiichi> it is possible to control fan speed on ubuntu?
[22:06] <nsgn> howdy there. so i've read over the 9.10 stuff and am excited about the release...but i wonder most about the interface/theme. has it been tweaked or changed much?
[22:06] <distrohopper>  Having problems with Linux Mint? Come to irc.spotchat.org (#linuxmint).
[22:06] <sebsebseb> nsgn: go to #ubuntu+1
[22:06] <iceroot> nsgn: try the beta-live-cd  also #ubuntu+1 fpr karmic
[22:06] <jrib> distrohopper: please don't do that
[22:06] <nsgn> sebsebseb: thanks
[22:06] <LjL> distrohopper: i don't think we need that
[22:07] <borg_> man even man is broken..ug..
[22:07] <distrohopper> somebody was asking about mint before.. I just made an alias for when somebody asks a mint question here.
[22:07] <jbu> hi all, what is a good/popular utility for burning and ripping to iso in gnome/ubuntu?
[22:07] <jrib> !mint | distrohopper
[22:07] <Kirsch> hey all, i need to configure sudo so that someone can run a specific script, however this script calls various other commands like rm and chown, is it possible to allow only access to this script and the commands that it runs would run as rot?
[22:07] <iceroot> jrib: k3b, brasero
[22:07] <Keiichi> i read something about "lm-sensors" application but this dodnt work, or i dont know how to use it
[22:07] <Keiichi> didnt*
[22:08] <distrohopper> jrib & LjL.. when I see a @ by your name, I'll take your advice. thanks.
[22:08] <jrib> distrohopper: ok !mintsupport already exists.  And it's fine to point people to it like you did if they are using mint.  But say that to specific people that are asking for mint support.  No need to just announce it to the channel
[22:09] <fccf> Kirsch: running a script as root that calls other runtimes would just cause those runtimes to be run as root
[22:09] <firecrotch> Hahaha
[22:09] <aayush> all: i am facing one problem that my system  has one problem that my xp partition is inside an extended partition and while booting in grub it is showing invalid device requested. i have checked menu list its correct
[22:09] <Neremor> hello! I'm searching fora professional address administration software. I took a look at C.U.O.N. and think it's the right way, but i don't need support for network. This makes the softwarea bit unusable for simple and nice address management... can anyone suggest me any nice software for that?
[22:10] <LjL> distrohopper: hi, i see you're keep to direct Mint users to the correct support channel! please, feel free to do it on a case-by-case basis
[22:11] <vigo> Neremor: Evolution
[22:11] <bigboss> HI EVERY BODY
[22:11] <shaullx> how can i set my external monitor resolution to 1680x1050?
[22:11] <Kirsch> fccf: thats the point, but i can control the script and i'm the only one who has access to modify it, i want somoene else to be able to run it
[22:11] <shaullx> i dont have that option
[22:11] <DarAnia> Hi everyone
[22:11] <Kirsch> fccf: as root
[22:11] <DarAnia> everyone
[22:11] <Kirsch> fccf: its a website deployment script and it has to run some tasks as root
[22:11] <andrew__> hey, can someone help, my computer froze, only the mouse would move.. there's nothing in syslog, messages or kern and i've been told to check XOrg but I don't know what I'm looking for
[22:11] <the_moose_from_c> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
[22:11] <the_moose_from_c> ERROR
[22:11] <bigboss> HI <DarAnia>
[22:12] <KB1JWQ> the_moose_from_c: Please don't do that. :-)
[22:12] <heater> if someone can help me troubleshoot an audio  problem here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/288088/
[22:12] <aayush> hi please see my problem
[22:12] <javatexan> anyone able to ssh tunnel to a windows server?  I am trying to go laptop(ubuntu)--->firewall--->linux server behind firewall--->windows server with shares.   It's not that i don't like it, but is there any software that is a bit more like the one companys use for their consumers database, for example?
[22:13] <Pistache`> anyone know why some pages on firefox make my xorg server reboot ?!!!!!
[22:13] <monster_> Pistache`: that sounds horrible
[22:13] <monster_> what a url that does it
[22:13] <monster_> whats
[22:13] <fccf> Kirsch: thinking around your problem ... in order for another user to run the script as root they would need to have sudoers access to run as sudo ... hmmm but you don't want to give that user root access ... am I understanding correctly??
[22:13] <KB1JWQ> Pistache`: That... shouldn't be.
[22:13] <Pistache`> one minute monster_
[22:14] <KB1JWQ> Pistache`: I'd check the x.org logs.
[22:14] <andrew__> hey, can someone help, my computer froze, only the mouse would move.. there's nothing in syslog, messages or kern and i've been told to check XOrg but I don't know what I'm looking for
[22:14] <stylist> Can I attach two monitors, two mice and two keyboards to my Ubuntu laptop, and have X let me use on monitor, whilst another person uses the other? totally separately
[22:14] <Pistache`> this one http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=331296
[22:14] <KB1JWQ> andrew__: Usually "error" or "fatal"
[22:14] <KB1JWQ> andrew__: Pastebin the log somewhere?
[22:14] <aayush> hey please look at my problem
[22:14] <DarAnia> I'm good, and You bigboss?
[22:14] <andrew__> KB1JWQ: lmao, new to IRC how exactly do I do that?
[22:14] <bigboss> FINE THANKS
[22:14] <ubox> is gnome uber better than kde?
[22:15] <prajjwal> aayush so are you in the Ubuntu Live CD now
[22:15] <fccf> !best | ubox
[22:15] <Kirsch> fccf: correct, i put this in and i think it worked: deployUser ALL=/path/to/deployScript
[22:15] <Kirsch> fccf: is that safe?
[22:15] <Kirsch> fccf: if i do sudo su as that user, it does fail, but i can run it
[22:15] <ubox> fccf: i was looking for real opinions
[22:15] <monster_> Pistache`: unforunately im at work, and cant test to see if it crashes me
[22:15] <Keiichi> can someone help me with "lm-sensors"? http://tinyurl.com/2dnnwt   i am lost in "Make this file executable, then run it (mkdev.sh)" How to mkae executable file?
[22:15] <bigboss> DO YOU NEED ANY HELP DarAnia ?
[22:15] <aayush> prajjwal : thanks man i got my grub back
[22:15] <Pistache`> monster_: i'm sure it wouldn't
[22:16] <mdke> hi there
[22:16] <Keiichi> please
[22:16] <Pistache`> KB1JWQ: which files ?
[22:16] <monster_> Pistache`: it does use none english charactors
[22:16] <fccf> ubox: Do NOT take polls in this channel ... This is support .. Not the Voting Ballot
[22:16] <roby_> buona sera
[22:16] <aayush> prajjwal : now the real problem  i ll paste it again
[22:16] <DarAnia> No bigboss, just showing what is  irc to my friend :)
[22:16] <monster_> maybe you dont have a certain langauge package
[22:16] <aayush> prajjwal: all: i am facing one problem that my system  has one problem that my xp partition is inside an extended partition and while booting in grub it is showing invalid device requested. i have checked menu list its correct
[22:16] <monster_> just a guess
[22:16] <KB1JWQ> andrew__: Don't EVER paste an entire log file into someone's PM without asking.
[22:16] <n8tuser> Keiichi-> to make a file executable,it has to be a script and chmod u+x
[22:16] <KB1JWQ> !pm | andrew__
[22:16] <Pistache`> monster_: this problem appeared this morning
[22:16] <KB1JWQ> !paste | andrew__
[22:16] <pc2> hi
[22:16] <pc2> hi
[22:17] <Pistache`> monster_: i always read french pages
[22:17] <roby_> per l'taliano?
[22:17] <ubox> it's not #ubuntu-support, why can't i ask people what they think here?
[22:17] <bigboss> AHAA I was thing you are a new user like me
[22:17] <pc2> How do i break the password in Ubuntu ?
[22:17] <bigboss> for lenux
[22:17] <monster_> Pistache`: have you checked xorg logs?
[22:17] <Pistache`> monster_: which files please ?
[22:17] <Keiichi> what mean chmoed u+x? How make it executable from file (text)
[22:17] <prajjwal> aayush pm me the result of your sudo fdisk -l
[22:17] <joaopinto> pc2, what do you mean break, recover ?
[22:17] <DarAnia> I will go now, bye everyone:)
[22:17] <fccf> Kirsch: I am assuming deploy is your sudo user ... the problem is it is running as deploy in the other user's terminal not sudo ... hmmm still thinking
[22:17] <pc2> I mean recover
[22:17] <bigboss> bye DarAnia
[22:18] <n8tuser> Keiichi-> man chmod  on a terminal for more details
[22:18] <joaopinto> prajjwal, support goes into the channel, with pastebin, not in private
[22:18] <prajjwal> or ... into pastebin ... sorry ...
[22:18] <roby_> come posso istallare un flash per ubuntu 9?
[22:18] <monster_> Pistache`: /var/log/Xorg.log
[22:18] <pc2> I mean recover the password
[22:18] <joaopinto> pc2, you boot with a live cd, mount the installed system partition, chroot to ir, and use the passwd command
[22:18] <afallenhope> hey, I have a uick question. when I start up all I get is a black screen and a cursor nothing else. any way of fixing this?
[22:18] <zenlunatic> Keiichi: modify file permissions
[22:18] <andrew__> KB1JWQ: sorry about that, didn't realise... like I said... new to this http://paste.ubuntu.com/288120/
[22:18] <Pistache`> monster_: thnx
[22:18] <monster_> yup
[22:18] <joaopinto> !it | roby_
[22:19] <Flannel> Pistache`: You can't recover it, but you can re-set it to something known: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[22:19] <Flannel> er, pc2 ^^
[22:20] <pc2> How do i mount the installed system partition ?
[22:20] <Kirsch> fccf: what do u mean? if i put that in and do sudo /path/to/deployScript it should run it as root no?
[22:20] <Flannel> pc2: You don't need to.  Follow the instructions on that webpage
[22:20] <Keiichi> sudo chmod +x mkdev.sh chmod: dont have acces to `mkdev.sh': No such file or directory
[22:20] <Keiichi> where i have to put this file
[22:20] <aayush> prajjwal : please check
[22:20] <pc2> wha page Flannel ?
[22:20] <Flannel> pc2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[22:21] <zenlunatic> Keiichi: is mkdev.sh in your current working directory, check with ls
[22:21] <ronnie_vd_c> does somebody know why WOL (wake on lan) is not working when the computer is turned off for 1 day, but works when the computer is off for about 5 minutes
[22:21] <fccf> Kirsch: seeing what is posted here in post #2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219618 ... alter your script with sudo before each command and use the #NOPASSWD to allow access to sudo in your script ... when your script is run . It will not ask for a password for sudo commands
[22:21] <Neremor> pc2 Installed system? Your ubuntu installation? in the case that youre using your PC via this installation and not a live cd, it is allready mounted.
[22:21] <ctmjr> Keiichi: you need to be in the dir. or know the path to the file
[22:21] <afallenhope> restarting the GDM doesn't so anything.. so anyone know what I can do to get my desktop back?>
[22:21] <fccf> Kirsch: does that help?
[22:22] <borg_> lstarnes, thanks for the suggestions, but I managed to get things fixed up enough to recover :)
[22:22] <borg_> take care all.
[22:22] <brandonc503_> so im installing ubuntu and its aking what to use the partionson as.. ex3 or ex2 and several others.. and mount point...and something about space for swaping.. what should i put
[22:23] <prajjwal> aayush, open  gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste everything in pastebin please
[22:23] <emorris> hi, i have a webcam which works fine in cheese and skype, however I want to use it with camstream. However, when I try to select a camera, none appear in the dropdown, and i get "CVideoDevice::CVideoDevice() could not query capabilities; is this really a video device?" in the debug. any ideas? i've heard that older applications rely on drivers doing decoding, but newer drivers don't but i don't know of any way round this
[22:23] <monster_> brandonc503_: start with swap and set it to same size as ram
[22:23] <addisonj_> hm
[22:23] <mdke> are there any security implications of using my ssh or gnupg keys from an Ubuntu persistent live cd?
[22:23] <altf2o> brandonc503 - if you're unsure, you can just have it do everything for you. If it's going onto it's own disk, just have it use the entire thing.
[22:23] <monster_> brandonc503_: then first partition set it to ext3 or 4 mount point /
[22:24] <monster_> brandonc503_: then the rest for ext3 or 4 and do /home for mount point
[22:24] <brandonc503_> thanx much
[22:24] <fccf> emorris: have you tried running camstream as gksudo .. perhaps there is a permissions thing when trying to access the camera
[22:24] <monster_> brandonc503_: / should be around 9 gigs
[22:24] <Kirsch> fccf: yes it does, tahnks!
[22:24] <monster_> imo
[22:24] <pc2> Thanks for helping me
[22:24] <pc2> Bye
[22:25] <pc2> Take care
[22:25] <Kirsch> fccf: thanks again!
[22:25] <pc2> bye
[22:25] <RajKhN> don't need help anymore, thanks firecrotch ^^
[22:25] <FloodBot3> pc2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <emorris> fccf: same effect when running as root
[22:26] <pc2> ok
[22:26] <blackjak> how to check the date creation of the directory?
[22:26] <pc2> take care
[22:26] <pc2> bye
[22:26] <fccf> emorris: just a thought, cameras arn't really my specialty, although I have worked with a few, successfully and un-successfully , so I understand how you feel ... it's frustrating
[22:27] <emorris> fccf: no worries, thanks for the tip; i hadn't thought of trying that
[22:27] <fccf> blakjak: ls -d will show the directory dates or file dates ... be one level up from your directory and do ls -d in termianl
[22:27] <f00fSteR> hey guys
[22:27] <blackjak> 10x
[22:27] <f00fSteR> i'm installing openvpn... what is the difference between TUN and TAP ?
[22:28] <afallenhope> Anyone here able to help or am I wasting my breath? As in should I come back later? f00fSteR join #vpn
[22:28] <[manas]> i got one question, im thinking to move on other hard disk (bigger one) it 300gb i was thinking to give for windows partiocion 80gb and rest for ubuntu but i dont know swap space should i give????
[22:28] <monster_> TUN devices provide routing mode and start a virtual point-to-point connection; TAP devices provide bridging mode and start a virtual network segment. The parameter ifconfig needs the two tunnel IPs when we are using tun devices, and the local IP along with netmask, when we are using tap devices.
[22:28] <chris|> f00fSteR, TUN is a layer 3 tunnel, tap is a layer 2 virual network interface
[22:28] <altf2o> what happened to your desktop? What happens when you try to restart GDM?
[22:29] <afallenhope> I was on my laptop, it shutoff on me, and then when it rebooted fsck exited with status 4 and told me to fix it . So I did that rebooted with a black screen and only a cursor.
[22:29] <fccf> f00fSteR: more questions about VPN can be asked in ##openvpn
[22:29] <brandonc503_> the ex3 file system creation in partion #2 of scsi 1 0,0,0 sda failed...
[22:29] <aayush> all: please check i am not able to boot into xp and my grub is showing INVALID DEVICE REQUESTED
[22:29] <aayush> http://paste.ubuntu.com/288127/
[22:29] <afallenhope> altf2o when I restarted GDM I just saw a giant NVIDIA and then a black screen
[22:29] <blackjak> I see only a dot as output from ls -d
[22:29] <jrib> blackjak: as you should...
[22:30] <monster_> brandonc503_: "ext3" ?
[22:30] <jrib> blackjak: what were you expecting?
[22:30] <altf2o> [manas]: usual rule of thumb is give swap 1.5x the amount of RAM. Although from 2GB RAM and above, i just match it. So i currently have a 2GB swap file, which is probably much more than i'd need.
[22:30] <blackjak> to see the creation dates of the files and folders
[22:30] <fccf> aayush: try rootnoverify (hd0,4) ... just because it is sda7 doesn't mean it is the seventh partition
[22:31] <smokie> hey guys, is there a way to make the whole ubuntu os to use a v5 socks for everything?
[22:31] <gartral> how do i determine my system's current submask/
[22:31] <jrib> blackjak: that's impossible as ext does not save that data anywhere
[22:31] <smokie> after starting an ssh tunnel in terminal
[22:31] <ikonia> gartral: ifconfig shows it
[22:31] <altf2o> afallenhope: if you completely reboot, it should try to start X and offer some options such as using default config, or less 'optimized' so you can fix it. Has that come up?
[22:31] <blackjak> it is a ntfs
[22:31] <afallenhope> altf2o no I just get a black screen with a cursor
[22:31] <brandonc503_> monster: yea i put on ext3 journaling file system.. you said "then first partition set it to ext3 or 4 mount point /"
[22:31] <blackjak> the files system is ntfs
[22:31] <SquirrelMan> The power went out, and now Ubuntu won't boot, which is kinda sad, but whatever. Anyway, it's been giving the error "kinit: trying to resume from <huge filename>" followed by "kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot..."
[22:32] <prajjwal> aayush, change the rootnoverify into root and see what happens ....
[22:32] <jrib> blackjak: well the -d switch to ls is not the proper way to do that.  Check ntfs-3g documentation I guess
[22:32] <SquirrelMan> I tried the steps listed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422875
[22:32] <monster_> brandonc503_: pm me
[22:32] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: normal boot is fine
[22:32] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: It fails to boot
[22:32] <SquirrelMan> well, scratch that.
[22:32] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: what is the error
[22:32] <SquirrelMan> It fails to start X.
[22:32] <SquirrelMan> No error after "doing normal boot..."
[22:32] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: ok, that's a different thing, what is the error ?
[22:32] <blueglasses> anyone knows how to activate lpt1 on vbox?
[22:33] <stylist> i love ubuntu
[22:33] <stylist> so easy to use!
[22:33] <SquirrelMan> None. Just enters tty1 as if I requested it
[22:33] <blueglasses> we all do :-)
[22:33] <stylist> better hardware support than fista
[22:33] <greensimian> Hey gang
[22:33] <gartral> ikonia: how do i tell ifconfi to use a different ip than the one provided by DHCP?
[22:33] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: it's called vista
[22:33] <greensimian> Does anyone have an Nvidia card?
[22:33] <HeckleJeckle> is there an imaging utility for ubu that allows transfer to machine with different hardware?
[22:33] <ikonia> gartral: you have to set it to a static IP
[22:33] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: sorry - that wasn't for you
[22:33] <SquirrelMan> greensimian: I do
[22:33] <gartral> ikonia:yes.. how..
[22:33] <greensimian> I loaded the drivers and now X isn't saving it's settings.
[22:33] <afallenhope> altf2o I basically get NVIDIA in big large letters and then from there the spinning circle of the machine loading and then from there it goes to black screen and just a cursor. can't click or rclick
[22:33] <f00fSteR> chris| : thanks there brotha
[22:33] <ikonia> gartral: be aware, setting it to a static IP may drop you off your network
[22:33] <blueglasses> greensimian, I do
[22:33] <greensimian> I set my rez to 1600x1200
[22:33] <[manas]> altf2o, i got 2gb rams too , but some one told me what sawp space need to be big, even when i  inatlled ubuntu now by default on 80gb it took around 10gb for swap
[22:34] <greensimian> when I reboot it's 1280x1024
[22:34] <fccf> greensimian: have you run nvidia-settings as gksudo ... kinda helps
[22:34] <greensimian> Making me a little nutty
[22:34] <gartral> ikonia: im well awear it _will_ drop me, at least untill i hve my switch setup
[22:34] <ikonia> gartral: ok - so change it then
[22:34] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: I fear it has something to do with my NVidia card, actually
[22:34] <greensimian> so I was running sudo not gksudo
[22:34] <altf2o> afallenhope: i've never personally seen that, but perhaps restoring X may help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296736 This may point you in the right direction.
[22:34] <gartral> ikonia: HOW
[22:34] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: yes, that's a reasonable assumption
[22:34] <fccf> !gksudo | greensimian
[22:34] <ikonia> gartral: ifconfig can do it on the command line, but I assume you're using gnome so set it in gnome-network-manager
[22:34] <aayush> all: please check i am not able to boot into xp and my grub is showing INVALID DEVICE REQUESTED http://paste.ubuntu.com/288127/  http://tinypic.com/r/2zylqti/4
[22:34] <blueglasses> greensimian, try nvidia drivers
[22:34] <teehee> why does my usb drive seem full when its not
[22:34] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: Is it modprobe that lists running drivers?
[22:35] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: correct
[22:35] <altf2o> [manas]: oh no, you don't need that at all. With 2GB RAM the most i would do is 3GB swap which is 1.5x your current RAM. You don't need 10GB.
[22:35] <greensimian> I'll give it a try :D
[22:35] <HeckleJeckle> is there an imaging utility for ubu that allows transfer to machine with different hardware?
[22:35] <[manas]> altf2o, how can i check my swap size now?
[22:35] <greensimian> blueglasses: I got hte Nvidia drivers installed and they look nice!  My Comiz stuff is really fast
[22:35] <gartral> ikonia: you assume wrong, i had to remove the gnome network manager.. it was causing severe issues with my nic, i find the dhclient gets me up normally, but i have a bew switch that needs configing
[22:35] <ikonia> HeckleJeckle: the hardware platform doesn't matter, the OS it's running does
[22:35] <altf2o> [manas]: if you need THAT much RAM for some specific application maybe scientific? You'd be much better off investing in more RAM and 64bit Ubuntu.
[22:36] <ikonia> gartral: then you'll have to either use ifconfig or hardcode it in /etc/network/interfaces file
[22:36] <teehee> i delete stuff off my usb drive but it still says that its full
[22:36] <HeckleJeckle> i need to image a preconfiged os and deploy to various laptops and desktops
[22:36] <[manas]> altf2o, i got x86-64bit machine
[22:36] <Pdro> (hi)
[22:36] <HeckleJeckle> something like acronis with universal restore
[22:36] <HeckleJeckle> looking for that for ubuntu
[22:36] <ikonia> HeckleJeckle: that's different, you'll need to make sure your image is compatible with the target hardware
[22:36] <iramedia_>  hi am david from Venezuela needs help with Freevo 1.8.3 in Ubuntu since I installed it and I want you to be as friendly as possible and handle the program. first as local_conf.py to configure the audio and images in video see several directories on my hard drive and configure the second as part of the zsnes games already and I have also installed roms but I can not open
[22:36] <Lucifaneous> Hi!
[22:37] <HeckleJeckle> ikonia: what software can I look at?
[22:37] <gartral> ikonia: will you please tell me *how* to use ifconfig to set the ip/
[22:37] <[manas]> altf2o, can u tell me how i can check my swap now?
[22:37] <Lucifaneous> can one boot ubuntu from usb stick?
[22:37] <altf2o> [manas]: usually the easiest way is to run the 'top' program. The 'Swap:' value in the upper left is your swap file size.
[22:37] <Lucifaneous> or dvd?
[22:37] <TheCheeze> Lucifaneous, yes
[22:37] <ikonia> gartral: check out the man page, the syntax is quite straight forward, device/ip/mask
[22:37] <Lucifaneous> TheCheeze: ok, just download it
[22:37] <fccf> !usb | Lucifaneous (you can also put an ISO on DVD)
[22:38] <Lucifaneous> homepag
[22:38] <ikonia> gartral: if you use ifconfig and have dhcp enabled, the next refresh it will overwrite your changes though, just be aware
[22:38] <[manas]> altf2o, sorry i didnt get u
[22:38] <Prune_> Under the Applications menu, does Add/Remove just add or remove apps from the menu, or does it install them on the computer?
[22:38] <altf2o> [manas]: and if you're already running 64bit then you can support more than 3GB so if you need more RAM see what your motherboard supports and upgrade. Honestly for normal use you do NOT need that much RAM.  Could this have been caused by the outage?
[22:38] <jrib> Prune_: install
[22:38] <Prune_> I thought adaptic package manager was for installing onto the computer
[22:38] <iramedia_> heyyyyy
[22:38] <Prune_> well how do I just add an installed appp to the menu there?
[22:38] <altf2o> [manas]: in a terminal window ("command prompt") type:  top  , look in the upper left for :  Swap: ......
[22:38] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: doubtful, but possible
[22:38] <ctmjr> iramedia_: there is a #freevo channel do not know how active it is
[22:39] <unitheory> i'm partitioning with a separte home partition. how big should i make the / partition?
[22:39] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: show me the output of "who -r" please
[22:39] <afallenhope> altf2o I'll try that hopefully it'll fix it
[22:39] <fccf> Prune: System>preferences>menu editor
[22:39] <oks> hmm, how can i adduser? when i write: adduser bruker1 -d /home/bruker1 -m -U -p testing123 it pops up the ls stuff.
[22:39] <aayush> all: please check i am not able to boot into xp and my grub is showing INVALID DEVICE REQUESTED http://paste.ubuntu.com/288127/  http://tinypic.com/r/2zylqti/4
[22:39] <SquirrelMan> run-level 2, date, time, last=
[22:39] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: ok, thanks, that was just a quick test
[22:39] <Prune_> ah!!!!!!!!!!! thank you fccf
[22:39] <fccf> unitheory: depends ... I usually do 20-40 gigs / and make home huge
[22:40] <blackjak> I can see the last modified date in the gui just not in the terminal
[22:40] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: you're using an nvidia card you say ?
[22:40] <unitheory> fccf, my drive is 20gb
[22:40] <jrib> oks: what do you mean by "the ls stuff"?
[22:40] <afallenhope> altf2o still no dice
[22:40] <Spoot> I use a widescreen notebook and like to use a single taskbar on the right side. However, Window List freezes my panel if i have too many windows open on 1 desktop and the only other alternative is Window Selector which requires 2 clicks to switch between windows. Is there an alternate Window List i can use for a vertical panel? or perhaps a fix for the current one?
[22:40] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: Correct. It was a pain to install, and apparently it will be a pain to maintain
[22:40] <fccf> unitheory: server or Desktop?
[22:40] <[manas]> altf2o, i got amd2 64 bit 2.7 dual core 2gn rams u think it will be enought rams?
[22:40] <unitheory> fccf, desktop
[22:40] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: why was it a pain, did you not use the hardware drivers tool ?
[22:40] <oks> jrib, : when i write that command it pops up many files. but dosent add user
[22:40] <altf2o> [manas]: should be just fine.
[22:40] <jrib> oks: anyway, you should read the manpage for adduser.  It seems like you are using syntax for useradd, not adduser
[22:41] <wool> camisetas do ubuntu no brasil?
[22:41] <fccf> unitheory: thats seems really slim to me ... I'd personally do 12.5g / and 7.5 /home
[22:41] <wool> alguem sabe?
[22:41] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: It failed on the distribution of Fedora I was running, so I ended up installing latest Ubuntu with minor incident.
[22:41] <bastid_raZor> Spoot: possibly look into a dock? cairo-dock for example
[22:41] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: but how did you install the nvida kernel modules in ubuntu
[22:41] <emorris> anyone? getting a webcam to work with camstream?
[22:41] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: It's actually the reason I'm currently on Ubuntu.
[22:41] <afallenhope> altf2o that didn't work. so I have no idea what the issue is. hmmm.. could it be a service that's running that's causing it? or a missing .config file or something?
[22:41] <wool> #ubuntubr
[22:41] <oks> no, i am using adduser. it should work: adduser bruker1 -d /home/bruker1 -m -U -p testing123
[22:41] <Lucifaneous> why i never ran ubuntu before i dont know
[22:41] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: I downloaded the correct driver package and blacklisted the agpgart and intel drivers that were causing headache on boot
[22:42] <gartral> ikonia: ok, so it it safe to ifup eth0 if it's already active ith dhcp?
[22:42] <smokie> hey guys, i need to undstand something about ssh tunneling,
[22:42] <ikonia> gartral: you don't need to do ifup - just ifconfig
[22:42] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: you got the drivers from nvida.com ?
[22:42] <fccf> emorris: have you tried passing /dev/video0 to camstream .. like camstream /dev/video0
[22:42] <unitheory> fccf, thanks for the advice
[22:42] <[manas]> altf2o, ok thankx mate one more think i was thinking to do some server on the home network so people can put and take some data what shuold i use ftp?
[22:42] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: I believe so, yes
[22:42] <NacH> hi, I've got an nc10 with UNR 8.10 and my wifi has stop working suddendly can anyone talk with me to help ?
[22:43] <smokie> if someone is collecting data from the ISP itself, and i do an ssh tunnel to my box in the US from my ubuntu to surf in FF, the sniffer from the ISP wont get what im surfing?
[22:43] <smokie> right?
[22:43] <afallenhope> altf2o basically my desktop doesn't load..
[22:43] <aayush> all , has anyone seen my problem
[22:43] <drbobb> hello there, some recent update has caused my keyboard to go crazy - the up-arrow key now fires up the print-screen gadget. it's driving me crazy!!
[22:43] <gartral> ikonia: this why i asked you if you could tell me how to set it up.. cause i barely uinderstand the developer jargon in the manuals..
[22:43] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: then you've made a mess - ubuntu packages the nvidia drivers for you that are known to be compatible
[22:43] <altf2o> afallenhope: hmm, could be. I was hoping restoring would work since it seems you're having issues with the nvidia module specifically. If changing the driver to the original setting didn't work, something else is definitely up.
[22:43] <ikonia> gartral: check the man page, it's very straight forward syntax, device/ip/mask
[22:43] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: Not a single distribution will boot a liveCD correctly with my card.
[22:43] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: did ubuntu ?
[22:43] <tehbaut> anyone know how to use xrandr?
[22:43] <SquirrelMan> No.
[22:43] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: what card is it ?
[22:44] <fccf> smokie: right ... kinda like an encrypted proxy
[22:44] <tehbaut> trying to rotate my display
[22:44] <emorris> fccf: yeah, doesn't work. I don't think it allows any command line options. All the config seems to be done in the GUI settings page
[22:44] <gartral> ikonia: to you maybe.. im both dyslexic and suffer asburgers.. to me, it's all greek
[22:44] <SquirrelMan> It's a relic, an GeForce FX 5200
[22:44] <drbobb> and i know my kbd breakage must be a gnome issue, cause no such thing happens in kde
[22:44] <SquirrelMan> s/an/a
[22:44] <ikonia> gartral: I'm telling you the synatix device/ip/mask
[22:44] <NacH> hi, I've got an nc10 with UNR 8.10 and my wifi has stop working suddendly can anyone talk with me to help ?
[22:44] <TheCheeze> i've got less than that working with jaunty
[22:44] <altf2o> [manas]: depending on your needs i would look into SSH. I personally use Samba for network shares because it's the easiest to get working on all the platforms i have at home, Windows, Mac OS X, Linux.
[22:44] <jake_> In 9.04 I have an issue with the volume control slider.  It has to be at like 85% for be to begin to hear anything and it maxes out at 100%.  is there a way to have it so it utilizes the entire volume slider?
[22:44] <Neurolysis> Hi, I just downloaded Ubuntu Notebook Edition for my Acer Aspire One (which the FAQ says it supports), but when I try to run 3D apps natively in Linux I get an error (WINE works emulating 3D games). I just checked my xorg.conf and I see "Configured Video Device" set as the identifier for "Device" -- is this right, or should I change it to 'intel'? If this is right, why can't I get 3D (for example 3D GNU chess) to work natively? Thanks. :)
[22:44] <tehbaut> tried xrandr --rotate right
[22:44] <bastid_raZor> SquirrelMan: yes, i have the same card on 9.04 working fine. use the older driver offered in hardware drivers. the newer doesn't work
[22:44] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: how did you install ubuntu if it didn't detect your card
[22:44] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: agpgart is in use, despite being on my blacklist
[22:44] <altf2o> using SSH you can "secure FTP" if you're tied to FTP. I would shy away from FTP itself completely however.
[22:44] <tehbaut> tried xrandr --rotate=right
[22:44] <gartral> ikonia: in context, where does that sytntax apply?
[22:45] <ikonia> gartral: that is the syntax for ifconfig, device/ip/mask
[22:45] <TheCheeze> i tihnk i had to use driver 94 with my old Geforce4
[22:45] <tehbaut> and --rotate="right"
[22:45] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: It did detect my card. The problem was, it also detected my Intel chipset, which can't be disabled in BIOS, only set to low priority
[22:45] <fccf> Neurolysis: there is a regression in some Intel cards in Jaunty ... see !intel
[22:45] <fccf> !intel
[22:45] <blueyed> j #ubuntu-devel
[22:45] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: in the hardware drivers tool, did it offer you drivers ?
[22:45] <Neurolysis> fccf: thanks, i'll read that
[22:45] <[manas]> altf2o, i was thinking samba too but if sometime i need connect not from the network is it still gonna work?
[22:45] <Spoot> bastid_raZor: i use a dock at the bottom and my panel to the right
[22:45] <SquirrelMan> ikonia: No, if I recall correctly.
[22:45] <aayush> fccf : can u please check my problem
[22:46] <bastid_raZor> Spoot: shouldn't the dock replace the window list?
[22:46] <ikonia> SquirrelMan: and you went into system->administration->hardware drivers ?
[22:46] <jake_> In 9.04 I have an issue with the volume control slider.  It has to be at like 85% for be to begin to hear anything and it maxes out at 100%.  is there a way to have it so it utilizes the entire volume slider?
[22:46] <thiebaude> SquirrelMan, did you let ubuntu search for the drivers?
[22:46] <SquirrelMan> haha, it never successfully loaded X.
[22:46] <gartral> ikonia: acording to your information, ifconfig eth0/<IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> should work, it doesnt
[22:46] <thiebaude> thanks ikonia
[22:46] <SquirrelMan> There was no System->
[22:46] <altf2o> [manas]: like connecting from outside your home network? Sure so long as you have your actual Internet IP handy, and if you're behind a router, have forwarded the appropriate Samba ports to your internal server.
[22:46] <Spoot> bastid_raZor: i prefer to use the dock as a launcher and nothing more
[22:46] <ikonia> gartral: you don't use /
[22:46] <ikonia> gartral: I was just using that as a seperator for you - there are examples in the man page
[22:47] <gartral> ikonia: YOU TOLD ME TOO
[22:47] <gartral> oops, sorry ikonia
[22:47] <afallenhope> altf2o the module I'm using is glx... is that normal?
[22:47] <SquirrelMan> thiebaude: I did at first, but it failed miserably.
[22:47] <oks> How can i addusers? not working
[22:47] <ikonia> gartral: no, I was showing you the syntax / is just a seperator
[22:47] <fccf> aayush: I think that un-identified partition .. 9G /media/fatnew could be causing you some trouble for one ... and I am not sure you have the correct (0,X) number
[22:47] <thiebaude> SquirrelMan, what OS are you using?
[22:47] <bastid_raZor> Spoot: right but once launched you should be able to click the icon of the launcher and it bring to focus the application
[22:47] <SquirrelMan> thiebaude: Jaunty
[22:47] <VCoolio> exit
[22:47] <thiebaude> ok
[22:47] <WhiteCrow1> how can i see picture in shell?
[22:47] <gartral> ikonia: your using a different man page than me, cause i swear there arent any clear cut examples
[22:48] <SquirrelMan> The real problem at hand is that my blacklist is being ignored.
[22:48] <altf2o> glx is a module X uses, it should be your "driver" however. The "/etc/X11/xorg.failsafe file lists:  Driver  "vesa"  under the "Configured Video Device" setting.
[22:48] <jrib> WhiteCrow1: fbi I guess...
[22:48] <SquirrelMan> If I can fix that, it should work again
[22:48] <syk> if i dual boot ubuntu and arch linux can i share my /home partition?
[22:48] <fccf> oks: sudo adduser username
[22:48] <SquirrelMan> But modules I specifically blacklisted are in use
[22:48]  * VCoolio wonders why irssi spawns immediately in ctrl-alt-f1 tty
[22:48] <SquirrelMan> fccf: Thought it was useradd?
[22:48] <thiebaude> SquirrelMan, can you do a sudo install nvidia-settings?
[22:48] <drbobb> hello again, can someone help me w/keyboard breakage in gnome?
[22:48] <WhiteCrow1> jrib:how can i see picture in w3m?
[22:48] <thiebaude> apt-get
[22:48] <[manas]> altf2o, i never used samba i just heard it very good, is it working same way as ftp u just writing adress in a tool bar? sorry for this sily questions :)
[22:48] <afallenhope> altf2o yeah I even tried the failsafe.. and that didn't work either
[22:48] <Spoot> bastid_raZor: that only applies to the applications i have as launchers, if i have that enabled
[22:49] <jrib> oks: I know your command said adduser, but you are not using the correct syntax.  Read what I told you last time please...
[22:49] <Keiichi> n8tuser; zenlunatic; ctmjr: thanks for help, i mahe half of job, need to reboot system, i hope now fan speed control will work
[22:49] <aayush> fccf: dear i have already done that see my grub entry in the pastebin its 6 .The problem may be due to the extended partition hdc2
[22:49] <thiebaude> SquirrelMan, sudo apt-get install
[22:49] <bastid_raZor> Spoot: correct.
[22:49] <jrib> WhiteCrow1: maybe?
[22:49] <Spoot> bastid_raZor: not every application i use is on the dock
[22:49] <SquirrelMan> thiebaude: It's set to manual.
[22:49] <gartral> ikonia: please dont confuse me with seperators that dont work in real life.. can i please have a basic, clear-cut example
[22:50] <gartral> ?
[22:50] <WhiteCrow1> jrib: maybe what?
[22:50] <Fragsworth> Where is the terminal settings file? I want to back it up and restore it after I reinstall
[22:50] <altf2o> [manas]: essentially yes. It uses a slightly different syntax:  \\server\share  , so if your server is: <IP_ADDRESS>2 , and you're sharing a "Music" folder, typing: \\<IP_ADDRESS>2\Music , in an address bar will pull it up.
[22:50] <thiebaude> SquirrelMan, you dont have a system menu on the panel on top?
[22:50] <SquirrelMan> thiebaude: In tty1?
[22:50] <oks> jrib, : Tried the different syntax also, not working. can you show me?
[22:50] <tehbaut> so can anyone help me with the xrandr command?
[22:50] <altf2o> afallenhope: hmm, that's weird. My first guess is something's wrong w/ X itself, but again i've never seen this type of thing. If the failsafe isn't working though, i can't imagine that's good at all.
[22:50] <thiebaude> SquirrelMan, ahh, ok
[22:51] <jrib> WhiteCrow1: it means it may be possible to view it in w3m.  I have no idea what you need to do.
[22:51] <[manas]> altf2o, but can i put like user and pass if i need?
[22:51] <SquirrelMan> ikonia, thiebaude: Until the NVidia and Intel drivers are done fighting it out, I have no X server.
[22:51] <jrib> oks: sudo adduser NAME_OF_NEWUSER
[22:51] <WhiteCrow1> jrib: ok tnx for help
[22:51] <SquirrelMan> They would stop fighting if agpgart would stay blacklisted, but it was loaded anyway
[22:51] <aayush> fccf: you figured out something
[22:51] <Spoot> bastid_raZor: it seems silly that they would leave the Window List panel applet bugged like that
[22:51] <afallenhope> altf2o something about pulse not working..
[22:51] <stylist> What is the Ubuntu equivalent of what i use on windows 7: Adobe Creative Suite CS4 Master Collection?  I know there is GIMP/Photoshop, what about for Soundbooth, whats the best sound editor for Ubuntu?
[22:52] <jake_> In 9.04 I have an issue with the volume control slider.  It has to be at like 85% for be to begin to hear anything and it maxes out at 100%.  is there a way to have it so it utilizes the entire volume slider?
[22:52] <altf2o> [manas]: absolutely. I restrict public shares to known individuals or groups and assign a password to it. I also have personal shares that no one but myself can access, which are also password protected. Then i have public shares that people can just get from but not write to\delete etc.... It's really versatile.
[22:52] <sebsebseb> stylist: there might not be an equvilant as such,  but people do audio editing in audacity
[22:52] <ikonia> gartral: sorry - I dropped network for a second there
[22:52] <fccf> aayush: not sure .. as your order of disks are all over the place  ... something tells me it should be rootnoverify (0,5) ... accounting for it being the fifth actual disk on the drive
[22:52] <stylist> sebsebseb: I might try Audacity then
[22:52] <ikonia> gartral: it's ifconfig $device $ip netmask $number
[22:52] <ikonia> gartral: the $ are varibles for your data
[22:53] <SquirrelMan> So basically, I just need someone to trust me and help me figure out why blacklisted drivers are being loaded anyway
[22:53] <[manas]> altf2o, ok mate im going for samba
[22:53] <altf2o> jake_: for me i clicked the volume icon, then "Volume Control" then had to adjust "Front" up.
[22:53] <drbobb> hello, can someone point me in the right direction to solve broken keyboard handling in gnome?
[22:53] <fccf> aayush: or rootnoverify (0,3) ... the extended thing screws with my head as it relates to my expierence with grub
[22:53] <jake_> altf2o:  Front is all the way up
[22:53] <afallenhope> altf2o basically it loads .. but not the desktop itself..
[22:54] <joaopinto> SquirrelMan, black listed drivers will be loaded if you do a manual load
[22:54] <afallenhope> like.. no icons, nothing. just a cursor
[22:54] <Neurolysis> fccf: whilst trying to do some stuff on that page, i keep on getting an error (doesn't seem to be fatal), "get fences failed: -1" -- any ideas?
[22:54] <sebsebseb> stylist: you can look through the repos for stuff, and that's where you should install stuff from really, but sometimes something inn't in the repos.  These two sites are good at giving you an idea  about the alternatives for Linux.  http://www.osalt.com http://www.linuxeq.com also you might be able to Wine the program you want to do and rather well.  Plus with enough RAM you can virtual machine Windows inside Ubuntu.
[22:54] <stylist> I hope `sudo apt-get install audacity` is the corrrect command to install Audacity on Ubuntu v9.04 sebsebseb
[22:54] <SquirrelMan> joaopinto: I'm not doing a manual load. Perhaps the kernel is when it fails to load the resume file?
[22:54] <sebsebseb> stylist: yes, but it might not be good enough for what you want to do
[22:55] <stylist> seemed to work sebsebseb
[22:55] <stylist> thanks
[22:55] <geekbuntu_> anyone know how to load linux drivers (that are for a fedora/rh - rpm) on ubuntu?
[22:55] <sebsebseb> stylist: I meant the program,  the command is fine
[22:55] <joaopinto> maybe
[22:55] <stylist> sebsebseb although i use adobe master collection cs4,  i just want to edit ringtones for my phone, and edit the access denied logon sound etc :)
[22:55] <stylist> i dont do much fancy shit
[22:55] <fccf> Neurolysis: No Clue, would need a lot more contextual information, and currently supporting 4-5 others doesn't give me time to check
[22:55] <stylist> i do some pro web development with dreamweaver though, shopping carts etc
[22:55] <sebsebseb> stylist: I think audacity is more for MP3 editing and that kind of thing, I don't use it personalley
[22:56] <Neurolysis> fccf: okay, thanks anyway. i'll do some more research into it. thanks again. :)
[22:56] <fccf> !ohmy | stylist
[22:56] <sebsebseb> fccf: What?
[22:56] <stylist> i said the fancy s word sorry
[22:56] <Neurolysis> sebsebseb: I think he is referring to your use of the S word.
[22:56] <stylist> ;-)
[22:56] <jake_> In 9.04 I have an issue with the volume control slider.  It has to be at like 85% for be to begin to hear anything and it maxes out at 100%.  is there a way to have it so it utilizes the entire volume slider?
[22:56] <Neurolysis> Or rather, stylists.
[22:56] <Neurolysis> wrong ping.
[22:56] <safruhani> hi, if i install the karmic koala beta, when the stable version release, can i upgrade it from beta version to stable?
[22:57] <SquirrelMan> Just as it did before I successfully installed the card
[22:57] <sebsebseb> safruhani: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:57] <safruhani> ok thanks sebsebseb
[22:57] <aayush> fccf : i am pasting my bootinfo wait then u ll get the clear picture http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/288142/
[22:57] <fccf> sebsebseb: see what stylist said at 21:55:21UTC ... thats why !ohmy
[22:57] <SquirrelMan> X gives this error: fatal server error: no screens found
[22:57] <frednach> hi
[22:57] <greensimian> Ugh, I hate Xwindows and Nvidia and Puppies.
[22:57] <greensimian> :(
[22:57] <bastid_raZor>  safruhani yes, just update it like a normal weekly update..
[22:58] <sebsebseb> fccf: yep saw it, also I guess that factoid is better than !language
[22:58] <roffe> could anyone help me install quake 2?
[22:58] <safruhani> bastid_raZor: thanks a lot
[22:58] <stylist> sebsebseb: yeah audacity is fine for what i want, windows sound recorder wasnt
[22:58] <gartral_> ikonia: your feeding me bad info man... i tried  sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> and it spat back SIOCSIFADDR: Invalid argument
[22:58] <SquirrelMan> greensimian: puppies, you say?
[22:58] <sebsebseb> stylist: good :)
[22:58] <ikonia> gartral_: no, I'm not feeding you bad information, you're not reading the info I gave you !
[22:59] <greensimian> SquirrelMan: Just kidding who couldn't love a puppy?!?!  But I am sticking with my guns on Xwindows and Nvidia
[22:59] <ikonia> gartral_: ifconfig $device $ip netmask $ip - the $'s are varibles
[22:59] <greensimian> I have a new ION mobo and it's fast but X doesn't want to hold it's screen settings.
[22:59] <SquirrelMan> I actually hate puppies.  PLEASE?!
[22:59] <ikonia> gartral_: I have given you two bash uable examples now
[22:59] <greensimian> SquirrelMan: Are you a kitty man?
[23:00] <SquirrelMan> Over puppies, certainly
[23:00] <ikonia> you just have to change the $varibles for your own information
[23:00] <SquirrelMan> Bigger dogs are better. But not too big.
[23:00] <jake_> In 9.04 I have an issue with the volume control slider.  It has to be at like 85% for be to begin to hear anything and it maxes out at 100%.  is there a way to have it so it utilizes the entire volume slider?  Should I tinker with the playback devices?
[23:00] <SquirrelMan> Back to Ubuntu. X is failing.
[23:00] <Alex____> Is there a way to somehow export packages so they can be put onto a system that can't access the internet?
[23:00] <fccf> sebsebseb: that's why I chose that factoid
[23:01] <greensimian> SquirrelMan: I isntall the Nvidia drivers and I can set the resolution to 1600x1280 but when I reboot it jumps back to 1280 x1024
[23:01] <greensimian> SquirrelMan: I even of the Nvidia-settings tool using gksudo
[23:01] <thiebaude> greensimian, gksudo nvidia-settings and save the resolution as root
[23:02] <sebsebseb> fccf: See my pm :)
[23:02] <jmadrid> Hello!
[23:02] <jmadrid> Hello Gang! I have yet another problem...
[23:02] <gartral_> ikonia: putting numbers to it, ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> should work, right?
[23:02] <greensimian> thiebaude: I did the, same things happen.  I even looked around for another xorg.conf just to make sure there was no sillyness in my pathing.
[23:02] <Fragsworth> Does anyone know where the settings files for the terminal are stored?
[23:02] <jmadrid> How to make my Logitech QuickCam work.
[23:03] <jrib> Fragsworth: gnome terminal you mean?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | jmadrid
[23:03] <jmadrid> This is so frustrating when you don't speak in thounges..
[23:03] <thiebaude> greensimian, save to x configuration file?
[23:03] <ikonia> gartral_: no - why are you not reading what I'm putting
[23:03] <clearscreen> I know there's no such thing as 'best', but what would be the most popular GTK newsreader?
[23:03] <ikonia> gartral_: why have you missed out the word netmask like in the examples I'm giving you
[23:03] <greensimian> thiebaude: yes, I save it in /etc/x11
[23:03] <thiebaude> greensimian, ok
[23:03] <jrib> clearscreen: popcon.ubuntu.com
[23:04] <thiebaude> greensimian, which nvidia?
[23:04] <afallenhope> Man, this is so annoying. Any ways of fixing this? Basically I can "boot up" I get a cursor and that's it.. no panels no desktop I can't right click. I've tried repairing xserver.. anyone?
[23:04] <jrib> clearscreen: ask bestbot in #ubuntu-bots as well what the best newsreader is
[23:04] <gartral_> i am.. as best as my brain knows how to decipher it
[23:04] <gartral_> i am.. as best as my brain knows how to decipher it
[23:04] <Alex____> Is there a way to somehow export synaptic packages so they can be put onto a system that can't access the internet?
[23:04] <ikonia> gartral: you just have to copy and paste the line I gave you and replace the $varibles
[23:04] <jrib> afallenhope: create a fresh new use rto troubleshoot
[23:05] <jrib> !offline | Alex____
[23:05] <greensimian> thiebaude: 185.18
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !aptoncd | Alex____
[23:05] <ikonia> gartral: you don't even have to think
[23:05]  * jrib high-fives ActionParsnip
[23:05] <thiebaude> greensimian, thats the driver i use in 9.10
[23:05] <afallenhope> jrib huh? please explain
[23:05] <jmadrid> Anyone has an idea?
[23:05] <thiebaude> greensimian, in 9.04 i used 180
[23:05] <clearscreen> jrib: great! 1 out of 3 people (with a total of 3 submissions) said pan :D
[23:05] <jrib> afallenhope: create a new user and see if the problem happens there as well
[23:05]  * ActionParsnip hi5s...then celebrates
[23:06] <greensimian> thiebaude: Think a downgrade might help?
[23:06] <jrib> jmadrid: I have lots of ideas...
[23:06] <thiebaude> greensimian, your on 9.10?
[23:06] <afallenhope> jrib how?
[23:06] <fccf> aayush: looking at your last paste .. I see some errorage ... it says that /dev/sda6 was the generated partition for your windows partition ... I believe it selected the wrong drive (being the first one which isn'
[23:06] <fccf> t C:
[23:06] <greensimian> thiebaude: 9.04
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: the webcam will be setup using the webcam factoid ubottu gave
[23:07] <thiebaude> greensimian, ok
[23:07] <patch-tag> on ubuntu jaunty, problems connecting to internet via nm-applet. for some reason, I don't get an enabled "connect" button till I type in 8 characters for password. and password is 6 chars long. wtf?
[23:07] <zerocool> HI ALL
[23:07] <thiebaude> greensimian, did you have ubuntu search for the driver in hardware drivers?
[23:07] <jrib> afallenhope: can you login at tty1?
[23:07] <zerocool> ALOHA ALL!!!1
[23:07] <thiebaude> greensimian, i chose the recommended driver
[23:07] <jrib> zerocool: hello
[23:07] <afallenhope> jrib yes.
[23:07] <fccf> !caps |zerocool
[23:07] <jrib> afallenhope: sudo adduser NEW_USER
[23:07] <zerocool> ALOHA jrib
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> !hi | zerocool
[23:07] <greensimian> thiebaude: Nope, it didn't detect anything...that's why I went to Nvidia to download the driver.
[23:08] <thiebaude> ah ok
[23:08] <zerocool> how  are you
[23:08] <afallenhope> jrib okay but how do I login as him.. I have it to automatically login as me..
[23:08] <greensimian> thiebaude: On my old hardware I had an older Nvidia card and it worked great.
[23:08] <zerocool> ?
[23:08] <jrib> zerocool: /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting please.  This channel is just for support
[23:08] <zerocool> Ineed help
[23:08] <greensimian> thiebaude: Now I have a ION based board and it's nothign but sadnesss
[23:09] <jrib> afallenhope: disable that then (edit /etc/gdm/gdm*.conf
[23:09] <jrib> zerocool: just ask your question then
[23:09] <zerocool> I NEED KNOW  A DRIVER FOR UBUNTU EDITION 2.2 X86
[23:09] <Neurolysis> Woah, lowercase please.
[23:09] <ikonia> zerocool: no such thing as ubuntu 2.2
[23:09] <jrib> zerocool: a driver for?
[23:09] <zerocool> FOR WIRELESS BROADCOM
[23:09] <thiebaude> greensimian, i got the lanparty nf4 motherboard and its great for ubuntu
[23:10] <ikonia> zerocool: stop with the caps - you've been asked twice now
[23:10] <jrib> zerocool: try System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[23:10] <zerocool> not
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> !caps | zerocool
[23:10] <scyx> hi, how do you guys do clean installs of new ubuntu releases? is it possible to get a list of all the packages you installed (not dependencies or preinstalled ones though) and how do you deal with all the reconfiguring that has to be done?
[23:10] <bazhang> zerocool, was this ubuntu ultimate or other such derivative?
[23:11] <afallenhope> jrid that seemed to allow me to get in!!! so it has to be a configuration issue. any idea on what I would have to "delete" in my default account?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | zerocool
[23:11] <joaopinto> !clone | scyx
[23:11] <zerocool> ultimate edition 2.2 for adm x86
[23:11] <patch-tag> ok, actually looks like 6 char passwords aren't allowed, it was a longer password. but I still have a problem. wpa & wpa2 personal is the only thing allowed in the "wireless security" dropdown. I choose "show password" to make sure I'm typing t right. connect, connect fails. and show password is now some kind of hashed value, not what I typed.
[23:11] <zerocool> wireless not work
[23:11]  * thiebaude back i goto #ubuntu+1
[23:11] <jrib> afallenhope: not really sure, try ~/.gnome ~/.gconf stuff
[23:11] <jrib> afallenhope: just rename, don't delete and then try to narrow it down
[23:11] <ikonia> zerocool: ultimate edition is not made by ubuntu - and not supported here, check the ultimate website for more info for support
[23:12] <zerocool> my wireless is a broadcom 4328
[23:12] <zerocool> for is derivate of ubuntu
[23:12] <ikonia> zerocool: ultimate edition is not supported here, it's not an ubuntu product
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom > zerocool
[23:12] <afallenhope> okay. doesn't seem to be the .gnome folder
[23:13] <zerocool> so good but I also with ubuntu 9.04
[23:13] <zerocool> and nothing
[23:13] <ikonia> zerocool: you're using ultimate edition, it's not supported here, check the website for support info
[23:13] <MadSeaDog> hi folks ive just resized a ntfs partition... (windows xp boot) but now when i try to boot i get please insert boot device.. something like this...
[23:13] <zerocool> ok so
[23:13] <zerocool> thx
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> !ultimate | zerocool
[23:14] <yusa> hi everyone
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> !hi | yusa
[23:15] <MadSeaDog> Gparted  i do not detect any partition.. how can i resolve it^
[23:15] <Neurolysis> MadSeaDog: Isn't that a Windows issue?
[23:16] <Lucifaneous> donk?
[23:16] <afallenhope> jrib I tried renaming .gnome .gnome2 and .gconf with the suffix _broken and still unable to login with a desktop
[23:16] <gianluca> !it
[23:16] <William-Gentoo> is there any package can help people to learn english words?
[23:16] <jrib> afallenhope: begin a binary search :)
[23:16] <MadSeaDog> Neurolysis,  well m in Ubuntu live cd trying to solve it... gparted from ubuntu do not detect the partition... any way to make it detect^
[23:17] <darkenergy> i've got two hosts behind NAT and i need ssh access
[23:17] <darkenergy> the only solution that comes to mind is a server with a public IP on the net
[23:17] <darkenergy> i'm considering something like an Amazon EC2 instance as an intermediary
[23:17] <darkenergy> anyone know of a better alternative?
[23:17] <FloodBot3> darkenergy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:17] <afallenhope> jrib huh?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> MadSeaDog: maybe your hdd controlers need extra drivers, or need acpi disabling to get working
[23:18] <ikonia> darkenergy: two hosts sharing a nat = not going to work for incoming ssh
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> darkenergy: use portforwarding / virtual server
[23:18] <darkenergy> ActionParsnip, virtualserver?
[23:18] <smokie> hey guys, if someone is sniffing packets from the ISP itself, and i do an ssh tunnel to my box in the US from my ubuntu to surf in FF, the sniffer from the ISP wont get what im surfing?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> darkenergy: some routers call port forwarding, virtual server
[23:19] <MadSeaDog> ActionParsnip,  this hdd work well before i resize the partition... now no detect from gparted... and can<t mount sda either...
[23:19] <joaopinto> smokie, it will get the encrypted traffic
[23:19] <mordof> what is the super button (talked about in compiz config)
[23:19] <jpds> mordof: The windows key.
[23:19] <mordof> ooh, thought so. ty :)
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> MadSeaDog: does it show up i: sudo fdisk -l
[23:19] <scyx> joaopinto: that !clone info doesn't help much since i just want to have those packages that were installed by me, not as dependecies.. is it possible to get a list of those packages?
[23:20] <smokie> joaopinto, so he can still see the traffic going out/in, but they cant read it?
[23:20] <William-Gentoo> is there any package can help people to learn english words?
[23:20] <darkenergy> ActionParsnip, i'm not in control of the routers, both machines are being NATed different ISPs, I need to get access from one to the other
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> darkenergy: port forward port 22 on the router to port 22 on the internal system
[23:20] <joaopinto> scyx, you should be able to get sucha a list because that info is kept internally, however I don't know how to obtain it :\
[23:20] <MadSeaDog> ActionParsnip,  no...
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> MadSeaDog: i'd run: dmesg | less    to see whats going on
[23:21] <gartral> alright ikonia im sorry for being such a dunce... i just saw i needed the word "netmask" in there.. >.> boy do i feel stupid
[23:21] <llua> http://technologizer.com/worstpc/
[23:21] <joaopinto> smokie, they can read the encrypted traffic, they will not be able to decrypt it unless they have the private ssl keys
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> darkenergy: i see, so do both systems have a WAN IP?
[23:21] <smokie> joaopinto, and thats not easy to obtain obviously?
[23:22] <darkenergy> ActionParsnip, you mean the shared IP visible on the public internet?
[23:22] <joaopinto> smokie, right
[23:22] <smokie> cool
[23:22] <smokie> thanks
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> darkenergy: do they both have a 192.168 type address or do they have a non class C address?
[23:23] <darkenergy> ActionParsnip, 192.168.x.x is just right
[23:23] <scyx> ah okay, so a question to everybody: is it possible to get a list of all the packages I installed (NOT dependencies or preinstalled ones, just those I specifically selected to be installed)
[23:23] <MadSeaDog> ActionParsnip, well a lot a stuff come from this...
[23:24] <nineclock> hi how can i create sfv files ?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> MadSeaDog: yes, its the log of your PC loading up, read through to see when your drives get detected (if they are)
[23:25] <frednach> hi, is there a way to copy the last shell output on the current shell line with only the keyboard ?
[23:25] <MadSeaDog> ActionParsnip,  it dont ...
[23:25] <ShaunR> i would like to talk to sombody over at ubuntu.com about donating a server to the project.  Anybody around here i can talk to?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> darkenergy: ok then you can just ssh to the address of the other system if they are using the same address
[23:25] <IdleOne> ShaunR: email links are on ubuntu.com
[23:25] <unop> scyx,  sudo zgrep "status installed" /var/log/dpkg.log* | awk '{print $5}' | sort -u
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> MadSeaDog: it will if the drive gets detected, if not then you should check in bios to make sure the drive is detected
[23:25] <Mka> MadSeaDog: are you having a second HDD?
[23:26] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  no ...
[23:26] <darkenergy> ActionParsnip, 2 different ISPs, i assume I can't ssh to <IP_ADDRESS> on the other side of the internet
[23:26] <unop> scyx, actually on second thought, that does list dependencies too
[23:26] <Bilge> Can someone who uses grub run `which grub-update` and let me see the output?
[23:27] <DigitalKiwi> unop: oh man that is ugly
[23:27] <frednach> hi, is there a way to copy the last shell output on the current shell line with only the keyboard ?
[23:27] <unop> DigitalKiwi, ok?
[23:27] <DigitalKiwi> pacman -Qe
[23:27] <DigitalKiwi> there, done
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> darkenergy: no as its a class C network
[23:27] <bastid_raZor> darkenergy: you would need to forward port 22 (or have ssh listen on another port since some isp's block 22) to each box on their respective router
[23:27] <DigitalKiwi> oh right you use dpkg, fail ;D
[23:27] <Mka> MadSeaDog: try "ls /dev/sd*" and/or "ls /dev/hd*" and see if you cannot see anything
[23:27] <unop> !ot | DigitalKiwi,
[23:27] <MadSeaDog> ActionParsnip, allright gonna get there...
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> darkenergy: you will need to setup port forwarding or you could use a VPN
[23:27] <jmadrid> I still find it complicated... I switched to Xubuntu on this machine because it runs so much better than Windows! I mean, Windows doesn't even crawl here and Xubuntu runs..
[23:27] <jmadrid> But everything
[23:28] <jmadrid> is so hard..
[23:28] <DigitalKiwi> unop: meh, not my fault your package manager can't do something as simple/common as that :P
[23:28] <unop> DigitalKiwi, and you should read his question again - a little more carefully too
[23:28] <max__> Hi, I downloaded "nautilus-image converter extension", however when I try to flip an image through nautilus it tells me I don't have sufficient privileges. http://pastebin.com/m33fe1307
[23:28] <darkenergy> VPN to where?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: only because its different
[23:28] <jmadrid> I guess I'll continue tomorrow.
[23:28] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  well strange thing there is sda ,sdb, sdc, sdd
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: i find windows hard
[23:28] <unop> DigitalKiwi,  dpkg -l  - is obviously not what he wants
[23:28] <jmadrid> Well, not reeally. All those commands, sudo, etc...
[23:28] <DigitalKiwi> tring to find his question
[23:28] <jmadrid> you don't have to deal with all that to install a webcam in Windows.
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: it took me an hour to install sound drivers and increase the page file on vista
[23:29] <Mka> MadSeaDog: well interrogate  sda
[23:29] <stylist> i like how ubuntu can sticky any window always on top easily... unlike windows
[23:29] <jmadrid> Yeah, but probably reading words.
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: all my hardware works 100% out of the box in linux
[23:29] <afallenhope> figured out the issue
[23:29] <afallenhope> was .pulse
[23:29] <jmadrid> I mean, I am an average joe... not a technical user.
[23:29] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  interrogate^
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: ubuntu is for the average user
[23:29] <jester-> hi
[23:29] <DigitalKiwi>   -e, --explicit       list packages explicitly installed [filter]
[23:29] <DigitalKiwi> iirc that's what he asked
[23:29] <Mka> MadSeaDog: try "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda", press Q to exit
[23:29] <jmadrid> Yet my webcam STX doesn' t work
[23:30] <jmadrid> and to make it work I have to go into the terminal, which I have to first know, how to work around it..
[23:30] <cgardner> Is it possible to mirror the repository for multiple ubuntu versions?  If so, do I just add the repositories to the mirror.list?
[23:30] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  fatal error cannot open disk drive
[23:30] <Mka> MadSeaDog: wow
[23:30] <jmadrid> and then read and type words I dont understand.. I mean.. I'm cool with Linux... I just wish it was simpler.
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: there are guides online with the commands you need to run
[23:30] <gbear14275> I just got an upgrade notification but 9.10 isn't released until later this month... Is this normal?  I did have a 9.10 beta live cd in my tray... is this perhaps what might have prompted the upgrade request?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> jmaif you run:  lsusb
[23:31] <Mka> MadSeaDog: did you use "sudo"?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: if you run:  lsusb
[23:31] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  yeah...
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: you will see an 8 character hex IS you can websearch  for
[23:31] <jmadrid> For example, Ubunto support says:  adjust launching one typical application with the described problem follows.
[23:32] <afallenhope> So if anyone wants to know the issue was my .pulse folder. I renamed it and it worked.
[23:32] <jmadrid> Then it says: Go to main menu, System, Preferences, Menus: Applications, Internet, Items: Skype, Properties, and replace the Command with
[23:32] <Mka> MadSeaDog: that looks like you dont have enough permissions
[23:32] <gbear14275> anyone else get a huge list of upgradable packages today?
[23:32] <jmadrid> But where is Main Menu, system, preferences, etc?
[23:32] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  any suggestion^
[23:32] <Mka> MadSeaDog: what is exactly given by "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> jmadrid: does the webcam work in cheese?
[23:32] <Mka> MadSeaDog: is it just nothing?
[23:32] <jmadrid> WHat is cheese?
[23:33] <MadSeaDog> absolutely nothing...
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> !info cheese | jmadrid
[23:33] <jmadrid> Well... got to go anyways! Thanks for reading my cryout!
[23:33] <DigitalKiwi> Description    : Use your webcam to take photos and videos, apply fancy special effects and share the fun with others
[23:33] <jmadrid> I'll deal with it another day.
[23:33] <DigitalKiwi> cheese ^
[23:33] <SquirrelMan> Yay, I fixed it
[23:34] <gbear14275> anyone get an upgrade window today?
[23:34] <darkenergy> ActionParsnip, bastid_raZor: apparently i have no choice but to pay for a server with a public IP and forward ssh from both hosts to it
[23:34] <DigitalKiwi> gbear14275: lots of people apparently
[23:34] <gbear14275> DigitalKiwi: may I ask was it supposed to happen?  or is this an error?
[23:34] <DigitalKiwi> i dunno
[23:35] <Mka> MadSeaDog: try "sudo su" and then "fdisk -l" afterwards
[23:35] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  still nothing
[23:36] <Mka> MadSeaDog: if you dont mind, pastebin your dmesg
[23:36] <mgv3> hi - my spell checker isnt working while i was already removed the second spell check in another language that may cause a clash - how can i make xchat having a spell check?
[23:36] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  just plain not detected...
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> MadSeaDog: check bios
[23:37] <Mka> MadSeaDog: so you are on Live CD now?
[23:37] <bastid_raZor> darkenergy: are you sure the isp isn't blocking port 22 which is why you can't get through? my isp blocks it so i use port 2222
[23:38] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  yeah on live cd....
[23:38] <Guest73696> my sound is not working on ubuntu
[23:38] <Guest73696> someone give me an idea
[23:38] <darkenergy> bastid_raZor, there are 2 ISP's involved, both using NAT, none of the hosts has a public IP address
[23:38] <Mka> MadSeaDog: I guess do as ActionParsnip suggests
[23:38] <MadSeaDog> Mka,  gonna go see there if i can make bios detect it...
[23:38] <bastid_raZor> darkenergy: also you can use dyndns and ddclient to get a dns for a dynamic ip
[23:38] <MadSeaDog> thanks folks
[23:39] <Mka> MadSeaDog: good luck
[23:39] <scar3crow> question: how do I set ktorrent as my default torrent application?
[23:39] <DigitalKiwi> <3 dyndns/ddclien
[23:39] <DigitalKiwi> t
[23:39] <mika_video> to check if a port in your PC is reacable from the outside (public internet)) try this page: http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[23:39] <n8tuser> darkenergy-> kindly draw the network layout so its easier for us to understand your connectivity, paste it in pastebin
[23:39] <bastid_raZor> darkenergy: you have the router forward your ports.. but i'm unfamiliar with the full workings of NAT .. i may be missing something
[23:39] <darkenergy> bastid_raZor, the IP's are not dynamic, they're private
[23:40] <frednach> hi, is there a way to copy the last shell output on the current shell line with only the keyboard ?
[23:40] <roffe> I've got problems installing q2, could anyone help? it says I should write: echo \#\!/bin/sh > quake2_, but it doesn't work
[23:40] <bastid_raZor> darkenergy: i didn't know an ip could be 'private' ..
[23:40] <optimizer> is there anyway, through xset, to make the mice less sensistive?
[23:41] <frednach> hi, is there a way to copy the last shell output on the current shell line with only the keyboard ?
[23:41] <bastid_raZor> darkenergy: if you go to  whatsmyip.com you should get an IP. yes?
 I don't know, but as a workaround: press up, edit the line like: echo "whatever you want to copy from the last command" >somefile.txt
[23:41] <n8tuser> frednach-> why not redirect the output like so    cmd1 > file.txt  and then cat file.txt
[23:41] <darkenergy> bastid_raZor, they are private IP address ranges: <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> etc, they're used for hosts that can't be accessed directly from the internet
[23:42] <darkenergy> bastid_raZor, these hosts connect via a proxy
[23:42] <Doc_Lappy> k found it thanks
[23:42] <n8tuser> darkenergy-> kindly draw the network layout so its easier for us to understand your connectivity, paste it in pastebin  <--- do this please
[23:42] <darkenergy> bastid_raZor, all PCs using that ISP have the same public IP address
[23:42] <bastid_raZor> darkenergy: ah, then your network set up is beyond my ability. best of luck
[23:42] <mordof> i enabled cube gears in compiz.. wondering how to view it
[23:42] <distrohopper> set transparency on your desktop cube when rotating
[23:43] <mordof> ah, k
[23:43] <frednach> n8tuser: what i mean is to avoid using the mouse for copy/paste and i owuld like to be able to get the data directly on my new shell line
 if really some ISP's are still doing that (giving private 10.*.*.* or 192.168.*.*) IP's to their customers, my advice: switch to another ISP if you can!
[23:44] <n8tuser> frednach->  what if the output is far too long? do what i suggested and you'll manage
[23:44] <foundry87> I got a new computer. Is there a way for me to transfer over all my programs/settings to the new one easily?
[23:44] <roffe> what does "echo \#\!/bin/sh > quake2" mean?
[23:44] <mika_video> if you cannot, then your only choice to accept connections from outside is using another PC wuith a publicly accessible IP as a proxy
[23:44] <soreau> mordof: You have to set Opacity to something other than 100 in ccsm>Desktop Cube>Transparent Cube
[23:44] <mordof> soreau: mhmm :D i found it, ty
[23:44] <mordof> soo cool
[23:44] <soreau> mordof: Note that doing so will use more cpu
[23:45] <Flannel> roffe: It's going to make the file "quake2" with "#!/bin/sh" in it
[23:45] <scyx> so does anybody have any other ideas how to get a list of all the packages I specifically selected to be installed (NOT dependencies or preinstalled ones). i see that synaptic has a "history" of installed/deleted etc packages, might it be possible to use that somehow?
[23:45] <scyx> and synaptic seems to have a "save markings" and "create download script" option too, but those only create empty files =/
[23:45] <mordof> soreau: *shrugs* i've got a fast computer. compiz isn't dropping below 300fps with a good number of the features enabled at once
[23:45] <ctmjr> !clone | foundry87
[23:45] <mordof> i'm installing the fglrx drivers currently so it actually uses my video card though
 also: if you want to connect between two provate IP PC's that are on a different network, then you really need a third PC to act as a proxy. But if one of them is with public IP. you need to initiate the connection from a PC that has private IP TO a PC that has a public IP.
[23:46] <mordof> or the VPU or whatever the change is
[23:46] <foundry87> ctmrj: Thanks :)
[23:46] <ctmjr> foundry87: your welcome
[23:47] <darkenergy> mika_video, i know all that, i was looking for a recommendation for a 3rd party service. I've just signed up for Amazon EC2 and will use an instance for that
[23:47] <mika_video> Some software packages work despite this (for example: Skype). But they do it by using other Skype user's PC as a proxy, and with Skype, this happens automatically.
[23:48] <deejaydblock1> When I try to upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic, why isn't there an "Upgrade" button on the Update Manager?
[23:48] <mordof> ok.. hmm  i installed the flgrx from the synaptic package manager, didn't require an update.  will it switch the driver being used when i restart, or do i need to do something more to get it to switch over
[23:48] <dandaman> so who's good at C?
[23:48] <Keiichi> Hi again. how to give premission without "root" account to execute: echo 100 > /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/pwm1
[23:49] <dandaman> hell, you dont have to be good, im a beginner :\
[23:49] <Keiichi> "sudo" didn't work
[23:49] <fccf> dandaman: you might get better responses in #gcc
[23:49] <Keiichi> vithzerai@vithzerai-ubuntu:~$ sudo echo 100 > /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/pwm1
[23:49] <Keiichi> bash: /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/pwm1: Permission denied
[23:50] <ablyss> hi
[23:50] <Rods_Tiger> when making a liveusbstick, what exactly is that slider at the bottom doing?
[23:50] <ianm_> does anyone have SHMConfig working in 9.04 (direct access to raw absolute x/y data from touchpads)?
 actually I am not s good at C... but at least I have tried to learn enough of it to be able to interface between a .so written in C and an app written, for example, in Free pascal ( note for C programmers: the original Pascal language as defined by some very old ISO standard has been dead for over 20 years now. When someone says "Pascal" today, it really means Objectpascal, the difference being even bigger than between C and C++ ! )
[23:52] <deejaydblock1> When I try to upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic, why isn't there an "Upgrade" button on the Update Manager?
[23:52] <bastid_raZor> Keiichi: i believe it is : echo 100 | sudo tee -i /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/pwm1
[23:52] <dandaman> i need to know how to take user input from the terminal
[23:52] <dandaman> a number
[23:52] <dandaman> and turn it into an int
[23:52] <dandaman> something with putchar im guessing
[23:52] <dandaman> i just cant do it
[23:52] <Pici> dandaman: C programming help can be found in ##C
[23:52] <dandaman> k
[23:52] <Keiichi> bastid_raZor: You are great!!! Thank you very much! it working!
[23:53] <ablyss> dandaman, if the terminal is using bash, maybe help in #bash
[23:53] <Keiichi> thanks!!!
 my guess: if you really need to do that in C, use atoi() ... otherwise I'd do it using freepascal (which, despite the name, is actually Objectpascal. But unlike Java, Objectpascal does not force objects down your throat !)
[23:53] <commander__> i need help please i have no sound
[23:53] <dandaman> http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~mikec/cs60/projects/hw1.html
[23:53] <peterson> hello; I'm testing out 9.10 and in order to upgrade apt-get asks me if I want to remove libgd2-noxpm and replace it with libgd2-xpm (partial upgrade thing). Does anyone know if it's safe to do it? I mean, they're both libgd2...
[23:53] <dandaman> not allowed to use atoi :(
[23:53] <Pici> !offtopic
[23:54] <Alex____> Is there any way to make APTonCD just make an ISO of the cd instead of actually burning it?
[23:54] <mika_video> At least Ubuntu should have Freepascal and Lazarus installable by aptitude install !
[23:54] <scyx> does anybody have any other ideas how to get a list of all the packages I specifically selected to be installed (NOT dependencies or preinstalled ones). i see that synaptic has a "history" of installed/deleted packages, might it be possible to use that somehow?
[23:55] <darkenergy> scyx, what are you trying to do?
[23:55] <mika_video> Oh, and the mc (midnight commander) should be on the first (=install) CD of [K]Ubuntu.
[23:56] <darkenergy> scyx, install those packages on another machine?
[23:56] <m0r0n> 9.1 Comes out on the 10th right?
[23:56] <Pici> !karmic | m0r0n
[23:56] <scyx> darkenergy: sortof, i'm trying to get a list of programs i have to reinstall once i do a clean install
[23:56] <ablyss> i'm still on ubuntu 8.04.3  and last week or so firefox upgrade and totally went foobar... is this a known issue or i'm i having local problems
[23:56] <mika_video> "Karmic WILL break" - ???? - what do you mean by that ?
[23:57] <BOZZY> Quick question, but is the cd iso for 9.10 available on here or only on the web?
[23:57] <joaopinto> mika_video, pleas ask on the proper channel, #ubuntu+1
[23:57] <darkenergy> scyx, try aptoncd, it'll go through your apt cache and create a an aptoncd-metapackage containing everything you select, with dependencies
[23:57] <Pici> mika_video: Its still beta and and its possible it will break
 I'd wait the 9.10 release and only after then worry about firefox.
[23:57] <darkenergy> scyx, i've used it for offline installs on other systems
[23:57] <Guest87993> Hey al anyone have problems with their wireless cycling on and off
[23:58] <darkenergy> scyx, you can burn directly on CD or DVD from the program
[23:58] <ablyss> mika_video: not sure I understand you
[23:58] <mika_video> after 29th Oct it should not be beta anymore !
[23:58] <Pici> mika_video: And after 29th the factoid will change.
[23:58] <Shinedown> Hi@all
 I mean that I'd worry about problems with firefox only after 29th Oct when Ubuntu 9.10 comes out. Need a browser before that and firefox doesn't even start? - Just use Opera.
[23:59] <Shinedown> Is somebody here who could help me with some hardware problems on buntu??