[00:09] <Robinux> heya guys whats the difference between desktop and server edition, won't i have apache2 and php5 on the desktop edition?
[00:11] <Robinux> nvm
[00:12] <aveilleux> Robinux: There's no huge difference; the desktop and server editions have the same repositories. The server comes with some extra packages installed by default (depending on your configuration) and has a few extra kernel modules that help it operate more smoothly on server hardware.
[00:19] <Robinux> aveilleux: i see
[00:21] <aveilleux> Robinux: Also, if I recall correctly, the server install does not come with a GUI by default
[00:22] <Robinux> awww too bad
[00:22] <Robinux> i'm too new to linux to operate without gui
[00:22] <Robinux> it'll probably kill my motivation to learn linux
[00:22] <Robinux> ubuntu 10.10 is called mavrick? am i right
[00:23] <aveilleux> Robinux: Yes, the latest version (10.10) is codenamed Maverick Meerkat
[00:23] <Robinux> Maverick Meerkat
[00:23] <Robinux> damn that sounds cool
[00:24] <aveilleux> The codenames usually do :3
[00:25] <Robinux> yep
[00:25] <Robinux> but Maverick is sick!
[00:25] <Robinux> loved the name ever since i heard it in Top Gun
[00:25] <aveilleux> Okay
[00:26] <Robinux> haha
[00:26] <Robinux> ummm when did ubuntu come to existence
[00:26] <aveilleux> According to Wikipedia, October 20, 2004
[00:26] <Robinux> nice
[00:54] <jlantz> how do i move my home folder from 10.04 hd to 1tb hd and not screw up new home folder on 1tb hd?  can't find it in my ubuntu books.
[00:55] <stlsaint> jlantz: do you have a seperate partition for /home?
[00:55] <jlantz> no i don't
[00:55] <stlsaint> so you want to backup your /home to your TB drive or you want to mount /home to the TB drive?
[00:56] <jlantz> like to use my old home folder for the 1tb 10.10 hd
[00:57] <stlsaint> jlantz: alright well you will want to create a seperate /home (i think, if i understand you correctly)
[00:57] <aveilleux> jlantz: Something you can do is create a new partition on the secondary hard drive, copy your entire /home directory onto the secondary drive, then mount the secondary drive as /home
[00:57] <jlantz> i think too,  i have my evolution email stuff that i don't want to lose
[00:58] <stlsaint> aveilleux: that will also invovled editing fstab
[00:59] <jlantz> evolution backup process is fstab right?
[00:59] <aveilleux> stlsaint: So will creating a separate /home ;-)
[00:59] <stlsaint> wait thats what i meant
[00:59] <stlsaint> i didnt mean that for the evolution issue
[00:59] <stlsaint> jlantz: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[00:59] <aveilleux> jlantz: No. fstab stands for "File System TABle"... it's the text file that determines what directories are mounted using what hard drive partitions
[01:00] <jlantz> THanks for the link! i'll study that!
[01:01] <jlantz> Appreciate the help!
[01:01] <stlsaint> yep yep
[02:16] <Game_Guy> Hello, I'm running the latest Ubuntu (10.10) and I'm having some trouble getting my Hauppuage 1250 card to work. Can someone help me?
[02:19] <stlsaint> i would love to...if i knew what a hauppuage 1250 card was....
[02:19] <Game_Guy> Tuner card
[02:21] <stlsaint> ill be honest with ya, im just going to google "hauppuage 1250 tunner card ubuntu" and give you what i find
[02:22] <L551> Hey everyone, just installed ubuntu for the first time
[02:23] <stlsaint> L551: nice, how do you like it
[02:23] <L551> It's nice.  I googled for hours ha ha
[02:35] <Game_Guy> Even tried this http://www.linwik.com/wiki/installing+the+latest+v4l+tv+tuner+drivers+for+ubuntu+8.10 thoug hit's for 8.10
[02:36] <Verminator> L551: I believe thw mic is turned off by default, you will need to go into sound preferences / input to unmute it
[02:40] <Game_Guy> Anyone else have any idea?
[02:42] <L551> cool the mic works now
[04:18] <sujiths80> The sound icon is not appearing in startup application...can anybody tell how can I change the settings
[04:20] <aveilleux> sujiths80: Do you have indicator-applet loaded?
[04:20] <sujiths80> how can I check that
[04:21] <aveilleux> sujiths80: do you have a small envelope icon near your clock?
[04:21] <sujiths80> no
[04:23] <aveilleux> sujiths80: Then you don't have indicator-applet loaded. Right-click on the panel and click "Add to panel". Then look for "indicator applet" and add it.
[04:27] <valindil89> howdy everyone
[04:28] <valindil89> starcraft o/
[04:30] <sujiths80> aveilleux thanks
[04:30] <sujiths80> its working now
[05:19] <poedoe> Where can I find info on uninstalling 10.10 and reverting back to 10.04, is this even possible without doing a clean install?
[05:19] <aveilleux> poedoe: Why do you want to do that?
[05:20] <poedoe> I just can't take the new launchpad design in the netbook version
[05:21] <aveilleux> Oh, netbook remix
[05:21] <poedoe> yeah
[05:21] <aveilleux> I know next to nothing about that
[05:21] <poedoe> I might give it a try once it gets more mature, I just don't have the patience to wait for it
[05:22] <oraci> hi... a little help please ... I have a problem when configuring autologin in ubuntu alternate 10.04.1 ... install in console mode ... and after reviewing a manual install mingetty ... and the next step is to edit the tty1 file that would have to be in /etc/event.d/ ... but not found folder /etc/event.d/ and obviously noy found file tty1
[06:22] <GabrielYYZ> hello @ anyone reading
[06:23] <GabrielYYZ> anyone knows why i see a canonical ip connection to me on port 80 and 443?
[06:24] <saji89> Guys, I had changed the headers of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki in a way to match the new theme, but I later saw the theme of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/ So now I'm confused. Can someone help me out.
[07:31] <Randy_C> How do I remove an old nVidia OEM video driver. I got fed up with the compatibility issues with the Riva TNT card and replaced it a radeon unit.
[11:14] <shahan> I have just installed ubuntu 10.10 desktop 32bit. Now when I am giving this command on terminal "sudo apt-get update" getting this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/511553/
[11:25] <geirha> There's already an apt/dpkg program running
[11:25] <geirha> ps -ef | grep apt    might show it
[11:25] <geirha> Could also be a dangling lock as a result of a hard shutdown or kill -9
[11:25] <shahan> geirha: oooo now its updating :o
[11:27] <geirha> Ah, it suddenly started working?   It was probably the daily apt-get update that was running.
[11:27] <shahan> geirha: hmm, may be...
[11:28] <shahan> I am missing the Software Source in my 10.10
[11:30] <shahan> hmm I can start this from Synaptic Package MAnager
[11:30] <geirha> They probably just removed the menu entry since it's available from both the software center and synaptic
[11:56] <duanedesign> good day geirha :)
[11:57] <geirha> And a good day to you too, sir :)
[12:07]  * duanedesign is having trouble getting started this morning.
[12:14] <Robinux> heya guys, the default DE that comes with ubunu Maverick is gnome right?
[12:17] <AbhiJit> yes
[12:18] <AbhiJit> Robinux, yes
[14:40] <shahan> How can I configure iBus for bengali on 10.10?
[15:25] <nemchik> hello, i'd like to know how to get irc:// links in browsers to open xchat-gnome - im using ubuntu 10.10, xchat-gnome 0.26.1, and my primary browser is google chrome 7.0.544.0 dev but i'd like it to work in all browsers if possible
[15:27] <pedro3005> nemchik, well, it's in the browswer options
[15:27] <pedro3005> I know in firefox it's Edit -> Preferences -> Applications, select "irc" then select your application
[15:27] <pedro3005> no idea about chrome
[15:30] <nemchik> hmm, that kinda sucks - i noticed the 'preferred applications' lets you choose your browser and mail client - coming from windows i'm used to the 'associate file extentions and protocols' thing
[15:36] <nemchik> looks like chrome calls xdg-open for irc links
[15:54] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[15:56] <pedro3005> Hello Silver_Fox_
[15:56] <Silver_Fox_> Hello pedro3005 . How are you?
[15:56] <pedro3005> I'm doing well
[15:56] <pedro3005> and you?
[16:00] <Silver_Fox_> I am fine thank you.
[16:23] <MichealH> Hello all
[16:23] <Silver_Fox_> Hello MichealH .
[16:23] <MichealH> Silver_Fox_: I was wondering if I could organise a Ubuntu Beginners Q&A session every month or something?
[16:29] <Silver_Fox_> I would advise that you speak with the beginners team council MichealH . They can be found in #ubuntu-beginners-council
[16:29] <MichealH> Okay
[16:46] <asus1015> netbook was fully funtional using live cd but after install can't use wireless
[16:46] <asus1015> ideas?
[16:50] <aveilleux> asus1015: I assume (by your username) you're using an Aspire One
[16:50] <shahan> I used a speed indicator of my internet on Lucid on the upper panel
[16:50] <asus1015> eee
[16:50] <shahan> but I forget the name of the software
[16:50] <aveilleux> asus1015: Crap, that's right. The Asipre is Acer, not ASUS/
[16:51] <aveilleux> asus1015: My mistake.
[16:51] <asus1015> when i used the disk there was an option to load drivers. after install theres none
[16:52] <aveilleux> asus1015: Either way, can you pastebin ( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ) the Terminal output of the command lspci |grep Network
[16:52] <aveilleux> asus1015: that's LSPCI <bar> GREP NETWORK (Except use the capitalization I used the first time -- *NIX is case-sensitive
[16:54] <aveilleux> )
[16:57] <asus1015> 03:00.0 network controller: broadcom corp bcm4313 802.11b/g lp-phy rev 1
[16:59] <aveilleux> asus1015: Oh nooo, it's the BCM43* series... I've heard horror stories about them
[16:59] <aveilleux> asus1015: I know there's a fix somewhere, let me try and find the guide
[17:00] <aveilleux> asus1015: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/11/broadcom-wireless-driver-fix-in-karmic.html
[17:00] <aveilleux> asus1015: the guide is for Karmic, but I know it works for Lucid and Maverick
[17:01] <asus1015> ty. let ya know how it goes
[18:13] <sujiths80>  hi...After upgrading from ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 10.10 ,I am getting failure for mounting of drive sda1
[18:15] <Mohan_chml> sujiths80: even "sudo mount" command is not helping?
[18:16] <sujiths80> got a error like "mount: can't find sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[18:16] <sujiths80> "
[18:17] <sujiths80> but I can see some error like sda1 not mounted and press "S " to skip it
[18:17] <sujiths80> when system restarts
[18:19] <Mohan_chml> sujiths80: do sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[18:20] <sujiths80> in the fstab file it is already there
[18:20] <Mohan_chml> and find /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 and add # at the start of that line and try sudo mount /dev/sda1
[18:22] <Mohan_chml> sujiths80: see what EducatedGuess said in https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/14278
[18:22] <Mohan_chml> scroll down to see that
[18:25] <infoverload> Hey
[18:26] <sujiths80> mohan_chml: After doing that also ,I couldn't mount the devise
[18:32] <JoeMavericksett> sujiths80: try sudo mount /media/cdrom
[18:32] <sujiths80> JoeMavericksett:Sda1 is a harddisk patition right
[18:33] <JoeMavericksett> sujiths80: then sudo mount -t iso9600 /dev/scd0
[18:33] <JoeMavericksett> sujiths80: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214041
[18:36] <JoeMavericksett> sujiths80: hold on.i'll get you another solution.think that's not it.
[18:46] <aveilleux> Shouldn't
[18:46] <aveilleux> sda1 be the first partition on the first hard drive?
[18:46] <aveilleux> cdrom0 would be the first optical drive
[21:10] <MichealH> Hey bodhi_zazen :)
[21:46] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[23:06] <lukjad> Heya sipherdee
[23:06] <lukjad> Whooops
[23:06] <lukjad> Sorry
[23:10] <pedro3005> lukjad, I see you're failing as usual
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Hi


[06:20] <elacheche_anis> Hey guys
[06:20] <elacheche_anis> Anybody is wake up here??
[12:26] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[15:17]  * genii-around sips
[21:42] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[23:40] <KombuchaKip> Co-founder of social network site Diaspora, Ilya Zhitomirskiy, dies at 22: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/co-founder-of-social-network-site-diaspora-ilya-zhitomirskiy-dies-at-22/2011/11/14/gIQA7m3LLN_story.html


[12:54] <czajkowski> ebel: slashbel http://www.nerdydaytrips.com/
[13:02] <slashbel> that map is copyrighted without rights for reuse
[13:56] <czajkowski> slashbel: how did you see that ?
[13:59] <slashbel> it's google maps
[14:54] <slashbel> czajkowski: are you still planning on visiting town this week?
[21:07] <mokmeister> hello everyone!
[22:35] <zmoylan> hi mokmeister


[02:34] <luis_> Hi, for some reason my grub menu doesn't show the latest kernels I have installed. When I try to run update-grub, it tells me I have to install grub or grub2-common, but when I try to install grub-common, it says this: "grub-common : Depends: liblzma2 (>= 4.999.9beta) but it is not installable"
[02:35] <luis_> any suggestion as to what to do next?


[00:57] <InHisName> inferior as far as health nutrition goes.  Bacon is right there with it.   A slice of whole grain toast with something like a three bead spread would rate MUCH higher.  The waitress brought out pancakes and sausage. When I said I'd ordered sausage, she went into the kitchen and came back  out with sausage.
[05:03] <andrew> according to what you said, she brought out what you ordered
[05:03] <andrew> the first time...
[05:10]  * TheEvilPhoenix detects random trolling
[09:19] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:39] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[09:41] <JonathanD> hey
[09:46] <rmg51> o/
[10:19] <JonathanD> first day of middle school
[10:28] <rmg51> I thought you were much older then that ;-)
[10:28] <JonathanD> Josh's first day of middle school.
[10:31] <rmg51> my first day of driving through several school areas :P
[10:31] <JonathanD> slow going?
[10:31] <rmg51> no one seems to want to slow down
[10:31] <rmg51> they get mad when I do
[10:32] <JonathanD> School zones need snipers.
[10:32] <rmg51> they will even pass me
[10:32] <JonathanD> Never been passed in a school zone. Been honked at.
[10:32] <rmg51> I go through 4 on the way to work
[10:32] <JonathanD> Lately I've had people pass me to run the red light at 320 and 23.
[10:33] <JonathanD> 23 is partly closed so they now think the red light doesn't apply anymore.
[10:33] <rmg51> well, Cottman Ave. is two lanes
[10:33] <JonathanD> Except it's not closed there. Theres still traffic. So they're not very bright.
[10:33] <JonathanD> ah
[10:34] <rmg51> I even had one driver use the turning lane to pass me
[10:34] <JonathanD> Snipers, I say. Snipers.
[10:35] <rmg51> he turned, but still way over the 15 mph speed limit
[10:35] <rmg51> breakfast time
[11:13] <JonathanD> I have this TV I picked up at a garage sale.
[11:13] <JonathanD> I'm contemplating taking it to work.
[11:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol
[11:13] <JonathanD> It's a little 19 inch LCD TV... could double as a monitor.
[11:13] <JonathanD> Was $25
[11:32] <rmg51> time for work
[11:32] <rmg51> bye
[12:01] <waltman> andrew: doh.  I ordered sausage, but she brought out bacon.
[12:14] <teddy-dbear> morning
[12:26] <jackson_> morning
[13:30] <JonathanD> yay iscsi.
[21:05] <JonathanD> jedijf: is there time at SFD for me to do a little venue-call?
[21:20] <jedijf> JonathanD: like with the giant people?
[21:21] <jedijf> they are always around, so sure
[21:22] <jedijf> i'd like to do a sfd fosscon sat and sunday at giant; if it wasn't for the PACS people
[21:23] <JonathanD> jedijf: I mean to "the crowd"
[21:23] <JonathanD> fosscon is looking for a place to be. If you have suggestions or ideas, heres how to contact me, etc.
[21:23] <JonathanD> Are the right people from giant there to speak to as well?
[21:24] <JonathanD> I still think it'll end up being too small :/
[21:25] <jedijf> JonathanD: giant people yes; i will let you talk the president, you may have to provide the membership with some info as to what FOSSCON is etc...but we can do that to
[21:25] <jedijf> i don't think that just 'doing it' they will get
[21:25] <jedijf> you are more than welcome to bring/talk about fosscon to the individual members as they wander around
[21:26] <jedijf> set up some fosscon'y stuff in the lobby
[21:26] <JonathanD> yes, that should work.
[21:27] <jedijf> give out stuff with the questions you want answered and how to reply etc
[21:27] <jedijf> then individual sig leaders can further promote; like reed who was at fosscon


[02:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dovecot (mantic-proposed/main) [1:2.3.20+dfsg1-1ubuntu2 => 1:2.3.20+dfsg1-1ubuntu3] (ubuntu-server)
[04:42] <mwhudson> dear release team how do we feel about uploading util-linux 7.5 days before release https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/2037417
[04:42] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2037417 in systemd (Ubuntu Mantic) "mantic images after 20230917 are failing to deploy with failure to mount root and kernel filesystems" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[06:51] <LocutusOfBorg> https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bb1ae3c13ce4fb72129229de66f5ffbcd45fe4c _doko what about updating gcc-12 and gcc-13? this is the fix for LP: #2038351
[06:51] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2038351 in darktable (Ubuntu) "darktable FTBFS" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2038351
[06:52] <LocutusOfBorg> Eickmeyer, mitchdz mentioning the Debian bug in Ubuntu changelog, makes easier to understand next time Debian uploads to check if the same bug is fixed and the delta can be dropped. Even if Debian doesn't check LP, the LP developers know when the same bug gets a fix and can drop delta (specially when the fix is in a patch or somewhere else, we get to merge something that is a sync)
[06:56] <LocutusOfBorg> reassigning the Debian bug to gcc-13
[07:04] <LocutusOfBorg> e.g. mentioning the changelog for Debian in this case helps understanding if the delta can be dropped even without a new Debian upload, because a gcc one will automatically make it build
[07:05] <LocutusOfBorg> _doko, the fix was backported also to gcc-12
[07:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (mantic-proposed/main) [1:23.10.7 => 1:23.10.8] (core)
[08:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted amazon-ec2-net-utils [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [2.3.0-2~ubuntu0.22.04]
[08:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: libpisp (mantic-proposed/primary) [1.0.0-0ubuntu23.10.1]
[08:47] <xnox> sil2100: vorlon : uploaded libpisp it is NEW source package for pi5 picamera support. Please do thorough review. I think i am actually missing vendored dep copyright.
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[09:15] <xnox> and the question also is if we really want libpisp publically or not
[09:20] <xnox> because libcamera can build with it statically linked in as a vendored source.
[09:20] <xnox> and we have not yet tested this on pi5
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted webkit2gtk [source] (mantic-proposed) [2.42.1-2]
[09:21] <waveform> xnox, I can give it a whirl if you want -- I've got a few pi-zero cameras that should theoretically work on the 5
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mutter [source] (mantic-proposed) [45.0-3ubuntu2]
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-django [source] (mantic-proposed) [3:4.2.4-1ubuntu2]
[09:23] <waveform> (but I'm not *that* concerned about having libcamera at release -- if it has to come via an update later, that's fine)
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[09:29] <xnox> waveform: do you have the pi5 cable?
[09:30] <xnox> waveform: also libcamera is not on the rpi desktop images at all........ should it be? should pipewire / gnome-cheese thing use it ?
[09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ironic-inspector [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:11.7.0-0ubuntu1]
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[09:31] <xnox> waveform: ok, maybe i can give you a libcamera with pi5 support as we think it should be done.
[09:31] <waveform> xnox, a "proper" pi5 cable, no, but apparently cables from the pi zero's camera cable are compatible (they just lack the extra data lanes, but that doesn't matter on the older modules). And no libcamera isn't installed by default (which is why I'm not that concerned about it landing "for release")
[09:32] <waveform> anyway, more than happy to test any libcamera related stuff
[09:32] <xnox> waveform: indeed, maybe we should cancel libcamera FFe, and move it to SRU
[09:32] <xnox> and it means we are ready to ship rpi images
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted heat-dashboard [source] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted manila-ui [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:10.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron [source] (mantic-proposed) [2:23.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted magnum-ui [source] (mantic-proposed) [13.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted networking-sfc [source] (mantic-proposed) [17.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:32] <xnox> cc: vorlon sil2100 ^^^^^
[09:33] <waveform> sure; incidentally, is the libcamera you wanted to test the one in the PPA we were using?
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted networking-bgpvpn [source] (mantic-proposed) [19.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron-vpnaas [source] (mantic-proposed) [2:23.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted octavia-dashboard [source] (mantic-proposed) [12.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openstack-trove [source] (mantic-proposed) [2:20.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted placement [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:10.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron-fwaas [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:19.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted octavia [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:13.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sahara [source] (mantic-proposed) [2:19.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nova [source] (mantic-proposed) [3:28.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ovn-octavia-provider [source] (mantic-proposed) [5.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:35] <xnox> waveform: no, that one is old and not what we want
[09:35] <juergh> waveform, no. that is an early version. still working on an updated one.
[09:36] <xnox> tjaalton: i have mesa backport for jammy, and it is multi-step thing https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-concept/+archive/ubuntu/x13s/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=jammy
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted networking-bagpipe [source] (mantic-proposed) [19.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron-dynamic-routing [source] (mantic-proposed) [2:23.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sahara-plugin-vanilla [source] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted trove-dashboard [source] (mantic-proposed) [21.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted watcher [source] (mantic-proposed) [2:11.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted networking-l2gw [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:20.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted senlin [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:16.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zaqar-ui [source] (mantic-proposed) [15.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sahara-plugin-spark [source] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted vitrage [source] (mantic-proposed) [11.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:36] <xnox> because rust didn't do switch to llvm15 in full / correctly in jammy; and then i had to fix that up
[09:37] <tjaalton> xnox: rusticl is disabled in the current backport because of that
[09:37] <tjaalton> and can be
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted keystone [source] (mantic-proposed) [2:24.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron-taas [source] (mantic-proposed) [12.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-saharaclient [source] (mantic-proposed) [4.2.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sahara-dashboard [source] (mantic-proposed) [19.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zaqar [source] (mantic-proposed) [17.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted networking-arista [source] (mantic-proposed) [2023.1.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-vmware-nsxlib [source] (mantic-proposed) [19.4.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-oslo.i18n [source] (mantic-proposed) [6.1.0-0ubuntu2]
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted watcher-dashboard [source] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[09:38] <tjaalton> but if you made it work, then that's fine
[09:38] <tjaalton> the sru bug is 2037604
[09:39] <tjaalton> which is still wip and tries to do too much, like llvm16 which didn't happen
[09:47] <xnox> ah
[09:48] <xnox> tjaalton: yeah our rustc is half broken in jammy; one out of 3 rust packages changed from llvm14 to llvm15; which is want causing things to break that want to use rust + bindgen during build of a new thing (like mesa)
[09:49] <xnox> tjaalton: yeah i want parity with mantic for the snap content
[09:49] <xnox> for firefox
[09:50] <tjaalton> okay
[10:56] <xnox> vorlon: sil2100: apw: please force linux-restricted-modules-lowlatency migration as it intentionally drops two dead end transitionals that should have been removed after jammy shipped
[10:56] <xnox> trying: linux-restricted-modules-lowlatency linux-lowlatency linux-restricted-signatures-lowlatency linux-signed-lowlatency linux-meta-lowlatency
[10:56] <xnox> skipped: linux-restricted-modules-lowlatency linux-lowlatency linux-restricted-signatures-lowlatency linux-signed-lowlatency linux-meta-lowlatency (0, 0, 343)
[10:57] <xnox>     got: 3+0: a-2:a-0:a-0:i-0:p-0:r-0:s-1
[10:57] <xnox>     * amd64: linux-modules-nvidia-450-server-lowlatency-hwe-20.04, linux-modules-nvidia-450-server-lowlatency-hwe-20.04-edge
[10:57] <xnox> or plesse RM binaries from release pocket of linux-modules-nvidia-450-server-lowlatency-hwe-20.04, linux-modules-nvidia-450-server-lowlatency-hwe-20.04-edge
[10:57] <xnox> to allow smooth migration
[11:35] <xnox> hang on, maybe i am confused
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: censys (mantic-proposed/universe) [2.2.6-1 => 2.2.7-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted censys [sync] (mantic-proposed) [2.2.7-1]
[12:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ipython (mantic-proposed/universe) [8.14.0-1 => 8.14.0-2] (ubuntustudio) (sync)
[12:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ipython (mantic-proposed/universe) [8.14.0-1 => 8.14.0-2] (ubuntustudio) (sync)
[12:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ipython [sync] (mantic-proposed) [8.14.0-2]
[12:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ipython [sync] (mantic-proposed) [8.14.0-2]
[12:28] <apw> xnox, did you bottom out on the lrm removals?
[12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: doublecmd (mantic-proposed/universe) [1.1.2-1 => 1.1.3-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted doublecmd [sync] (mantic-proposed) [1.1.3-1]
[12:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: bumblebee (mantic-proposed/universe) [3.2.1-29 => 3.2.1-29ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted bumblebee [source] (mantic-proposed) [3.2.1-29ubuntu1]
[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (mantic-proposed/main) [23.10.54 => 23.10.55] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[12:42] <xnox> apw: yes, lrm-lowlatency respin incoming
[12:42] <xnox> apw: and it drops all the hwe-20.04 transitionals, which we will need to remove in the release archive
[12:42] <xnox> because pre-jammy transitionals are dead to us
[12:42] <apw> xnox, ok, ping when it arrives
[12:42] <xnox> something we didn't do right in kinetic
[13:21] <mitchdz> LocutusOfBorg: That makes sense with the debian bug. Thanks!
[13:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libvpx (mantic-proposed/main) [1.12.0-1ubuntu1 => 1.12.0-1ubuntu2] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[13:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libvpx [source] (mantic-proposed) [1.12.0-1ubuntu2]
[14:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grilo-plugins (mantic-proposed/main) [0.3.16-1.1ubuntu2 => 0.3.16-1.1ubuntu3] (ubuntu-desktop)
[14:15] <Eickmeyer> LocutusOfBorg: Absolutely hence mentioning the bug (and not closing it) in the changelog was important there as was the goal. We got it done. :)
[14:25] <mjdonis> hi, just wanted to inform everyone that I'll be taking care of release from the CPC side of things this time around
[14:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-manager (jammy-proposed/main) [1:22.04.14 => 1:22.04.15] (core)
[14:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected update-manager [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:22.04.15]
[14:31] <seb128> the ^ grilo-plugins upload there disable plugins that are just crashing today because they didn't catch up with internet services changing (visible for example in the totem channel tab)
[14:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grilo-plugins [source] (mantic-proposed) [0.3.16-1.1ubuntu3]
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected update-manager [source] (focal-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected update-manager [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:22.04.15]
[14:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected update-manager [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-manager (jammy-proposed/main) [1:22.04.14 => 1:22.04.15] (core)
[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-manager (focal-proposed/main) [1:<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-manager (bionic-proposed/main) [1:<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[15:09] <seb128> ahasenack, ^ reuploaded with the extra space, thanks again for catching the error!
[15:09] <ahasenack> awesome
[15:26] <mitchdz> Could someone take a look at amazon-ec2-net-utils 2.3.0-2~ubuntu0.20.04 in Focal unapproved queue, and push to -proposed if you are happy? Lunar is in -proposed already, and I'd like to test both Lunar/Focal together. Here's my LP bug for history - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amazon-ec2-net-utils/+bug/2037437
[15:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2037437 in amazon-ec2-net-utils (Ubuntu) "Include amazon-ec2-net-utils in Jammy/Focal archive" [Undecided, New]
[16:40] <ahasenack> ricotz: I'm missing DEP3 headers in the arm64 patch you are adding to this upload, and am having a hard time finding the origin of that patch. I just checked https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+/refs/heads/distro/lhm/libreoffice-7-6+backports/sc/inc/kahan.hxx and it's not committed there
[16:40] <ahasenack> ricotz: it would speed up my review if the patch had dep3 headers telling me where it comes from, why it's needed, which upstream bug is it fixing, etc
[16:40] <ahasenack> I would rather not have to clone the whole libreoffice repository :)
[16:41] <ahasenack> (ops, sorry, should have brought this up in ubuntu-devel, not here)
[16:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit-machines [source] (jammy-backports) [299-1~bpo22.04.1]
[16:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit-podman [source] (jammy-backports) [77-1~bpo22.04.1]
[16:50] <xnox> apw: is there 0day sru plan for 535 nvidia for mantic? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-535/+bug/2038292 it is currently lower version than jammy & lunar, thus it is unsafe to turn on upgrades.
[16:50] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2038292 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "nvidia-graphics-drivers-535 lower than in lunar" [Undecided, New]
[17:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: masakari (mantic-proposed/main) [16.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 16.0.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libreoffice [source] (lunar-proposed) [4:7.5.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:46] <xnox> apw https://bugs.launchpad.net/kernel-sru-workflow/+bug/2037969 is the lowlatency tracker ready for mantic to drop stray transitionals
[17:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2037969 in Kernel SRU Workflow "mantic/linux-lowlatency: 6.5.0-8.8.1 -proposed tracker" [Medium, In Progress]
[17:46] <xnox> that's what's needed for lowlatency to migrate
[17:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (mantic-proposed) [23.10.55]
[17:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:23.10.8]
[17:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted masakari [source] (mantic-proposed) [16.0.0-0ubuntu2]
[17:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-scciclient (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.12.3-0ubuntu1 => 0.15.0-0ubuntu1] (openstack)
[17:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: phoc (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.31.0+ds-1 => 0.32.0+ds-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted phoc [sync] (mantic-proposed) [0.32.0+ds-1]
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: phosh-mobile-settings (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.31.0-1 => 0.32.0-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted phosh-mobile-settings [sync] (mantic-proposed) [0.32.0-1]
[18:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mutter (mantic-proposed/main) [45.0-3ubuntu2 => 45.0-3ubuntu3] (desktop-core, desktop-extra)
[18:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libfprint (lunar-proposed/main) [1:1.94.5+tod1-0ubuntu2 => 1:1.94.5+tod1-0ubuntu2.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[18:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rust-gtk4-macros (mantic-proposed/universe) [0.7.2-3 => 0.7.2-6] (no packageset) (sync)
[18:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted rust-gtk4-macros [sync] (mantic-proposed) [0.7.2-6]
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:22.04.15]
[19:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (focal-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>]
[19:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>]
[19:07] <seb128> ahasenack, thanks
[19:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubiquity (mantic-proposed/main) [23.10.7 => 23.10.8] (ubuntu-desktop)
[19:11] <dbungert> ^ implements fix for LP: #2036999
[19:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2036999 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity: Wifi password not copied to new install Edit" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036999
[19:18] <Eickmeyer> dbungert: Thanks! That's a huge nice-to-have! One of those unintended netplan side-effects.
[19:20] <dbungert> Eickmeyer: Welcome!  Yea, not a great UX.  Congrats on your install, you get to configure wifi again.
[19:21] <Eickmeyer> dbungert: LOL
[19:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (mantic-proposed/main) [2.9.1-2ubuntu1 => 2.9.1-2ubuntu2] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[19:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mdadm (mantic-proposed/main) [4.2+20230508-6ubuntu1 => 4.2+20230508-7ubuntu1] (core)
[19:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-scciclient [source] (mantic-proposed) [0.15.0-0ubuntu1]
[20:08] <apw> xnox, n-g-d updates, no plan as of this instant.  i guess we need an LRM respin against -release to go with that.  i will consider how to do that.
[20:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubiquity [source] (mantic-proposed) [23.10.8]
[20:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (mantic-proposed) [2.9.1-2ubuntu2]
[20:25] <ItzSwirlz> hey release team, for some reason on cinnamon's image, when booting, the background doesnt seem to activate in the image (when you get to the try/install screen)
[20:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: usbmuxd (mantic-proposed/main) [1.1.1-3 => 1.1.1-3ubuntu1] (core)
[20:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: heat (mantic-proposed/main) [1:21.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 1:21.0.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[21:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: designate (mantic-proposed/main) [1:17.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 1:17.0.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[21:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: irqbalance (jammy-proposed/main) [1.8.0-1build1 => 1.8.0-1ubuntu0.1] (core)
[21:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: aodh (mantic-proposed/main) [1:17.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 1:17.0.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[21:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted designate [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:17.0.0-0ubuntu2]
[21:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted heat [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:21.0.0-0ubuntu2]
[21:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted aodh [source] (mantic-proposed) [1:17.0.0-0ubuntu2]
[21:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: barbican (mantic-proposed/main) [2:17.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 2:17.0.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[21:27] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-release: Does anybody have an answer to ItzSwirlz's question up above? He's having trouble with ubiquity-dm/maybe-ubiquity it seems, and I don't know how to answer that question necessarily.
[21:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted barbican [source] (mantic-proposed) [2:17.0.0-0ubuntu2]
[21:28] <Eickmeyer> Seems as though Cinnamon isn't really supported as a DE in ubiquity-dm.
[21:30] <xnox> ItzSwirlz: it used to be "a feature"
[21:30] <xnox> i recall i tried to fix that on one flavour years ago.
[21:31] <xnox> and i was told look it is trying to load your wallpaper but fails, and it was shrugged off as "oh well" it makes things faster
[21:31] <xnox> ItzSwirlz: please remind me what is DE for cinnamon? and i can poke things
[21:37] <Eickmeyer> xnox: Cinnamon is the de, the wm is muffin.
[21:38] <Eickmeyer> muffin is a fork of mutter.
[22:05] <ItzSwirlz> The path to the wallpaper file is correct in relevant gsettings in -environment and -artwork, idk what else could be the issue
[22:06] <xnox> Eickmeyer: ItzSwirlz: gtk2 gtk3 ?
[22:06] <Eickmeyer> xnox: gtk3
[22:06] <ItzSwirlz> isnt gtk2 out of the archive?
[22:06] <xnox> and does that stuff, still do enough g...... what's it face, to trigger correct wallpapaer paint
[22:07] <xnox> Eickmeyer: ItzSwirlz: i thought one of those forks kept gtk2 going as a fork or something.
[22:07] <ItzSwirlz> cinnamon is all gtk3, it was forked from an early versoin of gnome 3
[22:07] <ItzSwirlz> The wallpaper is correct, in the live session it is showing the ubuntu cinnamon mantic wallpaper
[22:08] <xnox> what is the name of settings-daemon? is it renamed?
[22:08] <ItzSwirlz> cinnamon-settings-daemon
[22:08] <xnox> what is the expected path and key for it?
[22:09] <xnox> what is the expected path and key for desktop image?
[22:09] <xnox> hmmm we know about mate & unity settings-daemon
[22:09] <ItzSwirlz> org.cinnamon.desktop.background
[22:09] <ItzSwirlz> picture-uri='file:///usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntucinnamon/mantic/ubuntu_cinnamon_mantic_minotaur.jpg'
[22:09] <ItzSwirlz> [org.gnome.desktop.background]
[22:09] <ItzSwirlz> picture-uri='file:///usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntucinnamon/mantic/ubuntu_cinnamon_mantic_minotaur.jpg'
[22:09] <ItzSwirlz> picture-uri-dark='file:///usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntucinnamon/mantic/ubuntu_cinnamon_mantic_minotaur.jpg'
[22:10] <Eickmeyer> ItzSwirlz: To save yourself a headache you might think about symlinking that in the future. :)
[22:10] <ItzSwirlz> yeah that'd be good
[22:10] <ItzSwirlz> It looks like the way the desktop background settings is loading the images is actually causing it to not.. work (using a removed thing from PIL.Image) so that's a cinnamon bug probably
[22:11] <xnox> does binary on path called `gsettings` exists and is it used by `cinnamon-settings-daemon` or is it called something else?
[22:11] <xnox> like cinnamon-gsettings ?
[22:11] <ItzSwirlz> There's no 'cinnamon-gsettings' package
[22:11] <Eickmeyer> I'm fairly certain good ol' gsettings will work, iirc.
[22:12] <ItzSwirlz> org.cinnamon.desktop actually might be cinnamon-desktop lemme check
[22:12] <xnox> can you get into live session
[22:12] <xnox> then dpkg -S for ubiquity-dm
[22:12] <xnox> and then do
[22:12] <xnox> sed 's/mate-settings-daemon/cinnamon-settings-daemon/' on it
[22:13] <xnox> and then do $ systemctl restart ubiquity
[22:13] <xnox> and hopefully be dropped back into "try or install" screen and hopefully it will show that background picture is there
[22:13] <xnox> if yes
[22:13] <xnox> you need to submit pr to add csd = '/usr/bin/cinnamon-settings-daemon' and add one more extra else if before msd is started
[22:14] <ItzSwirlz> Ubiquity is now failing to start?
[22:14] <ItzSwirlz> PAM pam_end: NULL pam handle passed
[22:14] <xnox> horum, check what it complains about
[22:14] <xnox> and like kill more processes
[22:14] <xnox> or you can reboot live iso with `break=bottom`
[22:14] <xnox> remote /root RW
[22:14] <xnox> remount /root RW
[22:15] <xnox> and then sed ubiuqty-dm file from initrd
[22:15] <xnox> exit shell and see "clean patched" boot
[22:15] <xnox> and hopefully with correct background
[22:15] <xnox> there was a way to kill enough stuff to restart ubiquity-dm but cannot remember
[22:15] <ItzSwirlz> break=bottom as grub cfg?
[22:17] <Eickmeyer> xnox, ItzSwirlz: Restarting ubiquity-dm is easy in this case. Open a TTY (ctrl-alt-f3), login, "sudo systemctl stop lightdm; sudo systemctl start ubiquity".
[22:18] <ItzSwirlz> thats wonderful, just give me a few mins
[22:19] <Eickmeyer> Then, of course, getting back to GUI is easy, just go back to the tty and start lightdm.
[22:19] <Eickmeyer> (after exiting ubiquity )
[22:21] <ItzSwirlz> i got a cursor.. and
[22:21] <ItzSwirlz> nope
[22:21] <ItzSwirlz> still a black background
[22:22] <ItzSwirlz> it's no longer screen tearing though when moving the widnow, thats nice
[22:22] <ItzSwirlz> oh nvm it didnt make the changes
[22:23] <ItzSwirlz> sorry i dont really use sed
[22:24] <ItzSwirlz> Nope. Still no change, even with replacing mate-settings-daemon with cinnamon-settings-daemon
[22:29] <ItzSwirlz> OH. That's because cinnamon-settings-daemon isn't a command; I misunderstood you, sorry
[22:29] <ItzSwirlz> I'll try putting in csd-background
[22:29] <Eickmeyer> ItzSwirlz: I'm surprised the addition of xfce4-wm didn't help.
[22:30] <ItzSwirlz> how heavy would adding mate's settings daemon to piggy back off of be if i cant figure this out
[22:31] <Eickmeyer> ItzSwirlz: Probably wouldn't do what you want it to do.
[22:34] <ItzSwirlz> I can't seem to find anything.. sadly i have to go in a few mins
[22:35] <ItzSwirlz> so later when I get home at around 9 PM (yikes ill be up late working on this school project) I'll try adding mate-settings-daemon to the live session and see if it does anything
[22:35] <Eickmeyer> ItzSwirlz: Ok. Just FYI, we're past Final Freeze, but since this is an installer bug, it's worthwhile, even though it's relatively cosmetic, though I would consider it UX.
[22:36] <ItzSwirlz> yep :thumbs_up:
[22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mutter [source] (mantic-proposed) [45.0-3ubuntu3]
[22:36] <ItzSwirlz> it ended up in my junk section of my email :madge:


[03:07] <phunyguy> hello, weird issue in 15.10, some qt/kde apps aren't following the gtk+ theme.  Any ideas?  some work, some don't.  It's odd.
[03:08] <phunyguy> almost feel like I am missing a theming engine, but not sure which.
[06:14] <darkxst> phunyguy, qt provides its own fake gtk engine
[06:14] <darkxst> (or theme)
[15:52] <phunyguy> darkxst: ok, well fine, but it's not working some of the time.  ☺
[15:55] <phunyguy> darkxst: they appear to be defaulting to something other than the "GTK+" theme style.   I loaded up quassel, which has the abilityto select the theme the app uses, and moving ittoGTK+ made it work right for quassel only.. and the fusion theme is what it looks to be defaulting to.
[16:00] <phunyguy> :( "Note: Since version 3.16, GTK+ 3 does not support non-CSS themes, hence previous solutions such as Oxygen-Gtk are no longer viable options."
[16:18] <phunyguy> I fixed it with export QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk in .profile
[16:44] <phunyguy> hmmm.. it's still using a weird icon theme.  Ugh....
[17:50] <Shawn> Ugh