[00:00] <Aer> hmm ok, becuase I use a program called "emesene" and the latest stable version of that is 1.6.3 it had a major bug fix fromt he previous version 1.6.1 apparently
[00:00] <Aer> but in my ubuntu software list i only get the old one 1.6.1
[00:00] <MrDudle> Aer: if the developer of the software doesn't update it
[00:00] <Aer> i had to download the new version manually
[00:00] <nimbiotics> hello all. I installed java under wine in order to play spades on yahoo but as soon as I go to yahoo firefox just freezes. Am I doing something wrong? is this possible to do? TIA
[00:00] <MrDudle> and submit the new one to the repos
[00:00] <MrDudle> it wont' show up as new
[00:00] <ikonia> Aer: possibly because it's not been packaged or wont be packaged, what is the bug fix ?
[00:00] <Aer> there was a bug in the old version where the transfer speeds of sending files was limited to 5kb/s
[00:01] <Aer> the new version fixed that so you could send/receive files at faster speeds
[00:01]  * MrDudle giggles
[00:01] <MrDudle> Aer: the developer probably didn't repackage it for the repos
[00:01] <ikonia> Aer: if you look on the new version on their website, they call it "unstable" for ubuntu, so it won't be packaged unless it's stable
[00:01] <MrDudle> so only the 1.6.1 is there
[00:01] <Aer> i thought 2.0 was unstable ?
[00:01] <william> Does anyone know what you put in for port number when you are trying to setup a new IRC connection?
[00:01] <Aer> the beta one
[00:01] <ikonia> !info emsene
[00:01] <ikonia> Aer: !info emesene
[00:01] <ikonia> oops
[00:02] <MrDudle> william: 6667 is common
[00:02] <ikonia>  !info emesene
[00:02] <ikonia> !info emesene
[00:02] <ikonia> Aer: in ubuntu 10.10 1.6.3 is released
[00:02] <Percius> Anyone available to explain how to use the new kernel drivers instead of LIRC?
[00:03] <Aer> hmm so howcome that version isnt available as an update on my 10.04 system ? :s is it becuase the developer hasnt repacjaged it for 10.04 only for 10.10 ?
[00:03] <ikonia> Percius: drivers are "drivers" lirc is control software, they are different things
[00:03] <ikonia> Percius: using one "instead" of the other doesn't seem right
[00:03] <Aer> sorry if im getting annoying but im still new to linux
[00:03] <ikonia> Aer: it's not been backported,
[00:03] <Aer> ahh ok
[00:03] <IdleOne> it's not been backported, yet
[00:03] <ikonia> Aer: it maybe, it may not be, log a request for it on launchpad.net
[00:03] <MrDudle> Aer: is all good better you ask and get the right info then not ask and give out bad info
[00:04] <Aer> so the software in my ubuntu software centre depends on the developers if when they make a new version they package it for 10.04 as well as 10.10 ?
[00:04] <Percius> Ikonia, as I understand it in the new kernel there is a module to replace the LIRC module built in. It makes the devices show up as Xinput, My ir receiver does indeed show up as that, but I don;t know how to set the scan codes
[00:04] <Aer> becuase i dont think ive seen one update for any of my software apart from firefox yet lol
[00:04] <ikonia> Percius: you may be right, but that's not how I understood it
[00:04] <Aer> unless i do manually
[00:04] <ikonia> Aer: correct
[00:05] <Aer> hmm ok, thanks starting to understand a bit more now :)
[00:05] <ikonia> Aer: it depends on what gets updated/when
[00:05] <Percius> Ikonia, I have been trying to understand it. Everyone says somthing different and I cant get anything to work
[00:05] <Aer> yeah
[00:05] <Percius> I had it working on the old module just fine
[00:05] <Spaztic_One_> Also, I get "failed to retrieve share list from server" when trying to access other computers on my wlan.
[00:05] <Aer> i was under the impression i had to upgrade my distro each time a new one was available to get new software versions lol
[00:06] <LjL> Aer: eh, it's more or less like that
[00:06] <Aer> huh :s i was just told it wasnt lol XD
[00:06] <LeGrand_22Qc> Percius, you can force a "downgrade installation" if the older was working fine.. in synaptic
[00:06] <konni> hello people .. I have one question .. I'm running 10.04 LTS ony me server with kernel 2.6.32-35  64 bit.. I'm looking for a safe way to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.35 without compiling it myself ..
[00:06] <konni> I know about the http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa PPA .. but I'm not sure that it contains the server edition of the kernel
[00:06] <LjL> Aer: Ubuntu doesn't update packages to bring you new features (versions). it updates them to bring serious bug and security fixes, though. then there is backports, which provides unsupported updates for a select number of things.
[00:06] <konni> can anyone tell me if adding the http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa PPA to my sources list will upgrade the kernel to 2.6.35 server version or will i get the standard desktop version of the kernel ?
[00:06] <ikonia> konni: why do you need to upgrade
[00:07] <shcherbak> Aer: you dont have to but with EOL you will lose official support
[00:07] <Percius> LeGrand, I can use 10.04 and not have issues, but I am trying to figure out the new kernel mode.
[00:07] <T0X|C> is my Atari 520ST ubuntu compatible?
[00:07] <Aer> hmm LjL, so your saying my software in my Ubuntu Software centre will only get updated if there is a fix for a serious security bug ?
[00:07] <konni> because my dvb-t TV card does only work with the 2.6.35 kernel which i use to broadcast tv channels via mumudvb to my network
[00:07] <ikonia> T0X|C: please don't be silly
[00:08] <Aer> shcherbak, EOL ? :s
[00:08] <shcherbak> end of life
[00:08] <Aer> oh
[00:08] <Aer> 10.04 is still going though it has 3 yrs support right ?
[00:08] <LjL> Aer: yes, although i guess it's possible (don't quote me on this) for particularly high-profile packages such as Firefox to get updates if the high sphere deem it worth it. but generally speaking, unless there's a backport, you aren't getting a new version of things.
[00:08] <Aer> oh :( thats what bothers me lol i cant get automatic updates :(
[00:08] <LeGrand_22Qc> Percius, oh ok. Then I can't help...  ^^
[00:09] <Aer> unles si do it manually
[00:09] <ikonia> konni: what card is it ?
[00:09] <LjL> Aer, most of the time though, latest does not equal better.
[00:09] <konni> HVR-1700 pci-ex
[00:09] <Percius> LeGrand, Thanks  for trying. My ir card is detected so I would like to "Do it right"
[00:09] <shcherbak> Aer: nope, you have to find new repos. what wersion?
[00:09] <Aer> true, but i like keeping my software i use up to date lol using ht elatest stable releases :P
[00:09] <shcherbak> *version*
[00:10] <konni> the tuning functionality is broken with the current kernel .. but works on my desktop machine running 10.10
[00:10] <Aer> version of what shcherbak ?
[00:10] <Aer> my ubuntu distro or ?
[00:10] <ikonia> konni: I'm showing support in 2.6.29
[00:10] <boch> good night, can someone help me, i cant run any kind of binary that is not installed from the reps, neither run script this way: ./script.sh. I have to run them like this: bash script.sh. Neither tab completes my binaries or scripts, like it does not detects them as executables (it is not a permission issue, also tried everything)
[00:10] <emerson_> how shall I install  the compile for pascal?
[00:10] <shcherbak> ubuntu, Aer
[00:10] <Aer> im using 10.04 LTS
[00:10] <LjL> Aer: then you might want to pick a so-called "rolling release" distribution, one where there aren't big releases every 6 months as such, but everything gets updated smoothly. of course, you will pay that in terms of stability.
[00:10] <Aer> im sure i read 10.04 LTS will be supported for 3 yrs
[00:10] <LjL> Aer: yes, LTS does mean that
[00:11] <LjL> Aer: it will receive security and bug fixes for 3 years - 5 for the server packages
[00:11] <Spaztic_One_> More specifically, I only get the "failed to retrieve share list from server" when attempting to connect to my desktop, but not the other one on the network (mother's, not the one I want) Why is this? I assume it has something to do with my desktop being windows... Also, for when my wifi is getting interference and slowing down, would someone help me set up for a direct connection via ethernet?
[00:11] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[00:11] <Aer> LjL i tried one of them on my laptop the other day, tried arch linux, didnt go well lol XD im not good enough with linux yet :( i got it all up and running perfect but couldnt get my wireless workign on it :/
[00:11] <shcherbak> Aer: I am not sure our discussion serve the purpose...
[00:11] <konni> yes .. but after alot of investigation and googling around .. ppl are saying the kernel 2.6.32 breaks the tuning functionality on the card
[00:11] <Aer> huh ?
[00:11] <LjL> Aer: then i suggest you stay on Ubuntu for a while if it works well enough for you, and at least for the time being, forget about having the latest stuff. later on you can switch to something else better suited to your tastes.
[00:12] <konni> ikonia: and I've verified it works with 10.10. on my other machine
[00:12] <shcherbak> boch: $PATH?
[00:12] <Aer> yeah i switched my laptop back to ubuntu after 2 days of not being able to get my wireless working lol
[00:12] <boch> shcherbak, neither, even i call with absolute path and says permission denied
[00:12] <ikonia> konni: I'd upgrade the release then
[00:12] <LjL> Aer: keep in mind that if at some point you really want the latest version of something important, there usually are unofficial, unsupported and possibly broken repositories (mostly PPA, "personal package archives" on launchpad) with that software.
[00:12] <Aer> i dont mind not being able to update my programs automatically so much its just a little annoying when i dont know how to do it manually becuase im unsure of what to do with the source tarball sometimes :/
[00:13] <konni> although my other machine is running 32 bit instead of 64 bit .. but i'm pretty sure its a kernel issue .. as with the hvr-3000 and hvr-4000 cards
[00:13] <Aer> yeah ive used a PPA and its worked good for me so far :) used a PPA for my nvidia graphics card driver
[00:13] <LjL> Aer: it's best not to touch the source tarballs at all if possible, but rather hunt for packages. often enough those do exist.
[00:13] <shcherbak> boch: chmod 744 <giveuserrighttoexecute>
[00:13] <iRabbit> How do I increase the amount of space available in wine?
[00:13] <Aer> hmm liek a .deb file ? instead of a tarball ?
[00:13] <LjL> Aer: actually, using a PPA for the graphics driver is often a terrible idea :P i'd stick to the default ones.
[00:13] <ikonia> Aer: I really would not be using ppa's for things like nvidia
[00:13] <Aer> oh ok XD
[00:14] <konni> ikonia: I'd really want to stick with a LTS release on that server .. is there no other option upgrading the kernel than to update my server to 10.10. ?
[00:14] <LjL> Aer: a .deb file will do, but you need to pay attention that it's actually a .deb file for your Ubuntu version (and not for another version, or for Debian, as that can cause trouble)
[00:14] <Aer> in my defence i didnt know, i havent long been tryign to make the switch from windows to linux
[00:14] <Aer> ohh ok
[00:14] <ikonia> konni: I wouldn't due to headers/abi personally
[00:14] <LjL> Aer, generally speaking, as long as you get third-party packages for *end-user software*, that doesn't tend to cause trouble, but you should leave libraries, drivers and things like that alone.
[00:14] <boch> fseratti@pensacola:~$ chmod 744 test.sh
[00:14] <boch> fseratti@pensacola:~$ ./test.sh
[00:14] <boch> bash: ./test.sh: Permission denied
[00:14] <boch> fseratti@pensacola:~$
[00:15] <FloodBot4> boch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <Aer> ok
[00:15] <ikonia> boch: use sudo
[00:15] <ikonia> boch: I suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com to learn the basics of using ubuntu
[00:15] <konni> ikonia: i c .. when can one expect the 2.6.35 kernel to be available via the upstream channel ?
[00:15] <ikonia> konni: I wouldn't expect it at all
[00:15] <konni> damn
[00:15] <Aer> thanks for all the info though guys :) and sorry if ive annoyed anyone with noob questions xD still not sure of certain things with linux :P I will get it right one day ;D
[00:16] <iRabbit> Hello, How do I increase the amount of space available in wine?
[00:16] <streamex> Guys, did anyone experienced ICQ issues in Empathy? Please PM me.
[00:16] <nimbiotics> hello all. I installed java under wine in order to play spades on yahoo but as soon as I go to yahoo firefox just freezes. Am I doing something wrong? is this possible to do? TIA
[00:16] <LjL> boch: if you want to make test.sh executable for someone else than its owner, 744 won't do. who's the owner? "ls -l test.sh" will tell you
[00:16] <boch> ikonia, i use linux for more than 8 years, this is weird, reminds me when broking libc and binary files werent detected as well. this is a fresh ubuntu 10.10 installation
[00:17] <boch> LjL, im the owner
[00:17] <shcherbak> but bash test.sh works?
[00:17] <ikonia> check the shebang
[00:17] <konni> ikonia: here is my post on the forums .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623304  ..unfortunately i have not received any reply .(
[00:18] <Aer> although i got one last question if its ok it jumps back to my original question, about installing a tarball, i downloaded it for the new version of qbittorrent and i read the readme file and it says i need to do ./configure but i get a message "Verifying Qt 4 build environment ... fail"
[00:18] <Aer> Reason: Unable to find the 'qmake' tool for Qt 4
[00:18] <ikonia> Aer: I wouldn't do it
[00:18] <Aer> hmm ok :(
[00:18] <ikonia> Aer: if you've listened to what's been said you are making a bad call
[00:18] <LBaroudi> hello everyone
[00:19] <ikonia> Aer: you have no reason to get the "later" version beyond it having a bigger number
[00:19] <ikonia> Aer: you've aready said you are new and don't know what you're doing, so why not follow advice ?
[00:19] <shcherbak> boch: does sh test.sh works?
[00:19] <LjL> Aer, do you really absolutely need the latest version of qbittorrent?
[00:19] <Aer> im gonna follow it, i was just curious becuase when i last tried to do it thats wher ei got stopped
[00:19] <Aer> im just curious why that happens xD
[00:20] <LBaroudi> have anyone tried compiling ubuntu from src code ? I need hint plz
[00:20] <LoganJRuff> LjL, everyone knows the shiny new thing is the one that should be in the repos =P
[00:20] <totem> hi, i need bring back my grub2 for ubuntu10.10 64 bit. please give me the link for that.
[00:20] <LjL> Aer, you probably needed to install qt4-qmake
[00:20] <boch> shcherbak, works pretty fine
[00:20] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence. It hangs after a certain phase, and I'm trying to think of what happens after it.
[00:20] <Aer> and would like to know how to do this type of stuff for future reference i can use linux fine with gui but id like to know how to do all the command line stuff in terminal to :P
[00:20] <Aer> hmm ok
[00:20] <boch> shcherbak, this is weid, because even tab completion wont complete the script name, despite i have rights to execute...
[00:20] <ikonia> Aer: you shouldn't beed to know
[00:20] <iRabbit> How do I increase the amount of space available in wine?
[00:20] <ikonia> Aer: there is very little reason to compile software
[00:20] <Aer> ill leave it for now though and use the easy one from the software centre lol
[00:20] <LjL> LBaroudi, the *whole* of Ubuntu from source code? why on *earth* would you do that?
[00:21] <streamex> DID ANYONE SOLVE ICQ ISSUE IN EMPATHY CLIENT?
[00:21] <songer> streamex: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[00:21] <LjL> boch: it does seem quite weird
[00:21] <A_New_Server> How do I reload my panels?
[00:21] <ikonia> streamex: we don't need the caps lock
[00:21] <LjL> songer, no bots/scripts here please
[00:21] <LoganJRuff> !caps | streamex also try #empathy
[00:21] <shcherbak> boch: hm, first think comes to me is bashrc, but....
[00:21] <LBaroudi> LJ I just love it and want to do that deep
[00:21] <Aer> hmm but im an IT guy lol XD i can use windows np and do all the advanced stuff etc went to college and uni etc and now looking for a job in computers but i have seen a few good jobs working with linux but i need to get better with it before i even think about applying to a job using linux lol
[00:22] <LoganJRuff> LBaroudi, you love Ubuntu so much you want to compile the whole thing from source?
[00:22] <LjL> LBaroudi: well this is probably not the best channel to ask that anyway, try #ubuntu-offtopic or something
[00:22] <Aer> so ive installed ubuntu and trying to get as good on linux as i am with windows :P
[00:22] <LoganJRuff> o.O
[00:22] <streamex> ikonia, at least NOW you noticed.
[00:22] <iRabbit> How do I increase the amount of space available in wine?
[00:22] <ikonia> Aer: then you will soon learn that you don't have to compile stuff
[00:22] <i_is_broke> does wine run ie?
[00:22] <ikonia> streamex: yes, but I'm ignoring the question due to your caps
[00:22] <Aer> hmm ok
[00:22] <boch> shcherbak, should not be, i should be able to exec any binary, with relative or absolute path
[00:22] <LoganJRuff> Aer, why would you settle for only a level of Windows competency when there's so much more potential here?
[00:22] <LBaroudi> lol thank you guys I wana do that because its there why not trying it
[00:23] <Aer> huh ? what you mean LoganJRuff  ? :s
[00:23] <streamex> ikonia, i asked before with lower case. nobody noticed.
[00:23] <LoganJRuff> LBaroudi, the source code isn't really there for that...
[00:23] <ikonia> streamex: they did, - they just didn't know the answer,
[00:23] <iRabbit> How do I increase the amount of space available in wine?
[00:23] <LBaroudi> wow why is it for then dear ?
[00:23] <ikonia> iRabbit: stop asking every 5 seconds, try #winehq if you're not getting the answer you want
[00:23] <Aer> ikonia you dont think compiling stuff would be needed in a work environment then ?
[00:23] <LoganJRuff> Aer, There's a lot more potential in a *nix box than a windows box. Why settle only for a level of competency comparable to Windows when you can do so much more?
[00:23] <LBaroudi> i mean what else can someone do with src code
[00:23] <ikonia> Aer: no
[00:23] <LjL> THIS IS A TEST
[00:23] <streamex> ikonia, i asked if somebody solved the issue of ICQ protocol in empathy, the answer is YES or NO.
[00:23] <songer> LjL: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[00:23] <LjL> ikonia: ^
[00:23] <iRabbit> ikonia: Thank you
[00:24] <Aer> ok
[00:24] <streamex> ikonia, i dont think it's hard to type 2 or 3 letters
[00:24] <LoganJRuff> LBaroudi, it's there for reference, patching, etc.
[00:24] <ikonia> streamex: 1400 people typing "no" - not good
[00:24] <neiliob1973> need advice...looking to buy hi-def camcorder...must be able to stream in Ubuntu
[00:24] <ikonia> streamex: if someone knows, they will type the letters
[00:24] <ikonia> neiliob1973: look for one with linux support then
[00:24] <Aer> hmm cus i know pretty much what i need with windows now for a decent to good job in computers using windows
[00:25] <LBaroudi> logan thanks but it can also be for it cant it ? i am surprized no one can compile it
[00:25] <LoganJRuff> You either reference it when building packages, patches, etc or you compile bits of it at a time to suit specific needs. No one just grabs the lot of it and compiles the whole thing into a working system just for giggles.
[00:25] <Aer> but im trying to get a job nearer to my gf so we can move in together but most of the IT jobs round there are linux based, the good ones atleast so im trying to get as pro with linux as i am with windows
[00:25] <ikonia> Aer: this channels just for support, try to keep to that topic please.
[00:25] <Aer> just think it would be good career wise to be pro with more than one operating system
[00:25] <neiliob1973> ikonia, how profound...do u know of a brand that does?
[00:25]  * LjL points Aer to #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[00:25] <emerson_> how do I install free pascal?
[00:25] <Aer> sorry >.< was just answerign soemoens question
[00:25] <ikonia> neiliob1973: no
[00:25] <LoganJRuff> LBaroudi, we're not saying "No one can compile it", it can be there for that too - but it's impractical and a waste of a good hacker's time. Why not express your love for Ubuntu by helping out building packages, patches, working on pre-release candidates, etc?
[00:26] <LjL> emerson_: sudo apt-get install fp-compiler
[00:26] <streamex> ikonia, nvm
[00:26] <streamex> ikonia, thx anyway
[00:26] <der> hola
[00:26] <LjL> emerson_: or perhaps you want fp-ide. try "apt-cache search free pascal" for a list of related packages
[00:26] <LoganJRuff> Aer, http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/introduction_to_linux/index.html & http://linuxcommand.org/
[00:26] <LoganJRuff> !spanish | der
[00:27] <Aer> thanks LoganJRuff  :)
[00:27] <jrib> boch: output of « mount »?
[00:27] <LBaroudi> logan when i go from code I can do something then I even donet know how to compile not at all
[00:27] <LoganJRuff> Aer, always a pleasure! Welcome to Linux, Ubuntu, and the FOSS movement. =)
[00:27] <emerson_> LjL: Thanks ....
[00:27] <nimbiotics> hello all. I installed java under wine in order to play spades on yahoo but as soon as I go to yahoo firefox just freezes. Am I doing something wrong? is this possible to do? TIA
[00:27] <iRabbit> what is the Linux equivalent command for "tracert"?
[00:27] <LoganJRuff> LBaroudi, what's your first language?
[00:27] <Aer> 'free open source software' right ? ;D
[00:28] <LjL> iRabbit: i think "tracepath" is the one installed by default these days
[00:28] <LBaroudi> logan lol Arabic
[00:28] <LoganJRuff> Aer, right
[00:28] <iRabbit> LjL: thank you
[00:28] <xangua> nimbiotics: or you could just use the nativ firefox and install java to it
[00:28] <Aer> :)
[00:28] <LjL> iRabbit: or, just type "trace" and then TAB :P
[00:28]  * cwillu stabs LjL with a wastrel
[00:28] <xangua> java plugin*
[00:28] <Raikia> iRabbit: traceroute is also a good one if you want to install it
[00:28] <LBaroudi> I mean like asp. and dot net things
[00:28] <LjL> cwillu: at least he's not here :P
[00:28] <iRabbit> LjL: thank you very much
[00:28] <neiliob1973> LoganJRuff, can u point me in a direction for help with camcorders & Ubunut?
[00:28] <iRabbit> Raikia: Thank you as well
[00:28] <BedMan> iRabbit: I use MTR sometimes too
[00:28]  * cwillu stabs LjL with a maco instead
[00:28] <iRabbit> BedMan: Thank you for the suggestion
[00:29] <LjL> cwillu: ow :(
[00:29] <LoganJRuff> neiliob1973, ask questions to the room in general so we can all offer our assistance. =)
[00:29] <xangua> nimbiotics: if i remember yahoo games use that other adobe plugin, wasn't that what you were trying to say¿¿
[00:29] <LjL> cwillu: at least wastrels are fluffy
[00:29] <LBaroudi> thanks logan for the hint
[00:29] <neiliob1973> can u point me in a direction for help with camcorders & Ubuntu?
[00:29] <LjL> neiliob1973: that's a bit generic. what do you want to do?
[00:30] <LoganJRuff> LBaroudi, هذا هو أفضل إجراء محادثة في غرفة خارج الموضوع.
[00:30] <boch> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/533666/
[00:30] <LoganJRuff> !ot | LBaroudi
[00:30] <LoganJRuff> That room. =D
[00:30] <Aer> anyway guys i installed qbittorrent fromt he ubuntu software centre :) and thanks a lot for your time and info and sorry again if i seemed too noobish at points lol :P but i appreciate the help :)
[00:30] <nimbiotics> xangua: i did, but since 10.04, i havent been able to play on yahoo anyways. and this is a fresh 10.10 install with the same problem
[00:30] <iRabbit> what is the terminal command for "scandisk"?
[00:30] <neiliob1973> want to no only edit (I can do that)...but live streaming from events is necessary. built-in webcam (Chiconey) works ok, but what about a full-blown camera?
[00:30] <jrib> boch: sda6 is mounted noexec
[00:30] <Aer> but think its time for me to log its late here, cya later :)
[00:31] <BedMan> iRabbit: fsck
[00:31] <LoganJRuff> Aer, we don't believe in "n00b" questions here. If you don't know the answer, then it's not a stupid question. =D
[00:31] <iRabbit> BedMan: Thank you very much
[00:31] <cwillu> iRabbit, did you want a command-line tool or a point and click tool?  and did you want to check the filesystem, or check the disk itself?
[00:31] <Aer> lol ok :D thanks :P
[00:31] <cwillu> (fsck only checks the filesystem)
[00:31] <Aer> cya :)
[00:31] <LoganJRuff> cwillu, fsck doesn't check my monitor status ? *gasp* =O
[00:31] <LoganJRuff> Later Aer
[00:31] <iRabbit> cwillu: whatever the windows equivalent to a full scan disk is
[00:32] <cwillu> LoganJRuff, scandisk does both disk and filesystem
[00:32] <cwillu> iRabbit, system menu -> administration -> disk utility
[00:32] <A_New_Server> How can I get my bars at the top and bottom to go back to the default?
[00:32] <toonacid> Does anyone have a clue if it's possible to convert a port name, e.g. 'ssh' to a port number?
[00:32] <LoganJRuff> cwillu, I was joking. =P
[00:32] <LjL> !info dv4l | neiliob1973, perhaps this program could be of help
[00:32] <iRabbit> cwillu: I prefer using the CLI
[00:32] <bastidrazor> !panels | A_New_Server
[00:32] <cwillu> iRabbit, sec then
[00:32] <jrib> toonacid: is /etc/services what you want?  Your question could be interpreted in a few different ways...
[00:33] <iRabbit> cwillu: thank you
[00:33] <LoganJRuff> !panels | A_New_Server
[00:33] <toonacid> jrib: I think that's what I was looking for actually, thanks for the hint! :)
[00:33] <cwillu> iRabbit, smartctl will tell you the drive's SMART info, and allow you to tell it to run extra checks and so forth
[00:33] <A_New_Server> Thanks bastidrazor
[00:33] <bastidrazor> A_New_Server: you're welcome.
[00:33] <LBaroudi> lol logan I like it thanks
[00:34] <iRabbit> cwillu: so sudo smartctl
[00:34] <cwillu> iRabbit, man smartctl will give the docs on it (you might want to look at the disk utility at the same time, just to understand some of it)
[00:34] <iRabbit> cwillu: alright, I'll check it out, thanks again
[00:34] <cwillu> iRabbit, also, the apropos command is useful for finding out commands to try, at least for stuff that's installed by default

[00:35] <cwillu> <notdone :p>
[00:35] <LBaroudi> logan I also want to take other src and add it to ubuntu like firewall I dont want to install other distibutio in my place other than ubuntu
[00:35] <LoganJRuff> How does the apropos command work? I just learned of it today
[00:35] <neiliob1973> THNX, guys!
[00:36] <jrib> LoganJRuff: how to use it you mean?
[00:36] <LoganJRuff> LBaroudi, do you know how to code?
[00:36] <cwillu> iRabbit, smart will tell you about any read/write errors that the drive has corrected or experienced, which the operating system wouldn't otherwise even notice.  It can often tell you lots of additional stuff, max temperature the drive has reached, number of times the drive has done an emergency drivehead park (i.e., from a sudden impact), etc
[00:36] <LoganJRuff> jrib, yes - I checked the man page, but I'm a bit too dumb for it. Just a quick overview?
[00:36] <boch> jrib, you are a genius, thank you very much
[00:36] <cwillu> LoganJRuff, "apropos smart" as an example
[00:36] <jrib> boch: no problem
[00:36] <LoganJRuff> cwillu, yeah, and then I see an output I am not sure of?
[00:37] <nimbiotics> xangua: what is the other plugin you metioned?
[00:37] <LoganJRuff> [logan@Lachance ~]$ apropos smart
[00:37] <LoganJRuff> page_revoke (3)      - Revocation methods There are two revocation method for...
[00:37] <LoganJRuff> scdaemon (1)         - Smartcard daemon for the GnuPG system
[00:37] <jrib> LoganJRuff: I really only know what the first two sentences of its description in the man page says
[00:37] <cwillu> LoganJRuff, "man scdaemon" will give you that man page
[00:37] <xangua> nimbiotics: that one, like flash
[00:37] <cwillu> LoganJRuff, "man 1 scdaemon" if there was more than one
[00:37] <xangua> can't remembeer how is called, only works in windows nim
[00:37] <xangua> nimbiotics: *
[00:37] <LoganJRuff> So if I am looking for a command and am unsure of it's name, I can apropos <something> and it will return an applicable string...?
[00:37] <cwillu> LoganJRuff, apropos only searches the description, not the entire manpage though, so it's not quite a google search :p
[00:38] <nimbiotics> xangua: i have no idea what u r talking about :/
[00:38] <T0X|C> I justed picked up my CRAY XMT. Can't wait to get esxi installed
[00:38] <LBaroudi> logan no I am bad coder I can somehow read code ;)
[00:38] <iRabbit> nobody home in #winehq :(, I'm a gaming nerd and want to play WoW with Ubuntu. I read a tutorial that states to cop and paste the WoW folder into Wine... Wine says I only have 11.5GB available and need to know how to increase that space.. anyone?
[00:38] <LoganJRuff> LBaroudi, to implement new code alongside existing code you will need to know what you're doing.
[00:38] <LoganJRuff> cwillu, oh, ok.
[00:38] <LoganJRuff> Thanks cwillu, jrib
[00:39] <cwillu> iRabbit, get a bigger harddrive?
[00:39] <iRabbit> cwillu: I have over 850GB available
[00:39] <Raikia> iRabbit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629450
[00:39] <LoganJRuff> I thought Wine adjusted it's "pagefile" to fit it's needs automatically?
[00:39] <Raikia> maybe that might help?
[00:40]  * hashashin nas
[00:40] <cwillu> iRabbit, how is it partitioned?
[00:40] <cwillu> iRabbit, can you copy the error to a pastebin
[00:40] <cwillu> !pastebin | iRabbit
[00:40] <LBaroudi> logan I am not happy with plenty of linux falvors this is so bad to add one server for each service or application
[00:41] <nimbiotics> what is firefox channel?
[00:41] <nucc1> does anyone know how i can make wireshark list my interfaces without running as root?
[00:41] <iRabbit> cwillu C: has all windows on it 1TB, D: Has all Linux on it 1TB... all D has is the OS and the few applications I added
[00:41] <LoganJRuff> nimbiotics, #firefox
[00:42] <cwillu> iRabbit, can you copy the error to a pastebin please?
[00:42] <nimbiotics> LoganJRuff: thx
[00:42] <cwillu> iRabbit, and then tell me how you were copying the wow folder
[00:42] <iRabbit> cwillu: sure be a sec
[00:42] <LBaroudi> logan I need good tools first to load the code and a good compiler then I can start by reading others code then post question  blah blah ...
[00:42] <cwillu> thanks
[00:42] <LoganJRuff> أنا حقا لا أعرف كيفية مساعدة بعد الآن. أنا آسف. = (
[00:42] <LoganJRuff> LBaroudi, ^
[00:42] <cwillu> iRabbit, make sure you use a pastebin, do not copy them in to this channel directly
[00:43] <LoganJRuff> !forums | LBaroudi
[00:43] <mun24> how can I checkk permission issue with the pid file
[00:44] <kish> is this linux remote desktop as bad as windows remote desktop?
[00:44] <cwillu> kish, worse :p
[00:44] <iRabbit> cwillu: copy from the C drive... pasted in in the .wine dosdevices c: users Public Games
[00:45] <kish> so 100% cpu usage expected cwillu
[00:45] <cwillu> kish, that shouldn't happen on either
[00:45] <kish> it did
[00:45] <kish> how is it worse?
[00:45] <iRabbit> cwillu: there is not enough space on the destination. Try to remove files to make space. 6.9GB avail 29.1 GB required
[00:45] <cwillu> kish, x remoting is terribly sensitive to network latency, and vnc is terribly bandwidth inefficient
[00:46] <cwillu> nx is good, but a pain to get steup
[00:46] <cwillu> setup
[00:46] <Dwade09> ok guy i got wine installed and i got my disk in the cd drive i done wine /media/name of disk via tab and i get wine invalid handle, how can i get wine to install my sims3 disk?
[00:46] <kish> i thought nx was just remote x
[00:46] <kish> not vnc like
[00:46] <cwillu> iRabbit, in a terminal, run these commands:  "sudo apt-get install pastebinit; df -h | pastebinit"
[00:46] <cwillu> iRabbit, that'll give you a link, which you should give to me
[00:47] <Nayr> asdf.
[00:47] <Nayr> asdf.
[00:47] <alex87> hey guys, can i have two server_names for a server config?
[00:47] <cwillu> kish, nx inserts a proxy between them, and uses a completely different protocol over the network, in order to eliminate as many round-trips as possible
[00:48] <jrib> alex87: if you are talking about apache, #httpd is probably your best bet
[00:48] <kish> ah
[00:48] <cwillu> kish, i.e., x remoting is only happening to the local nx server or client, and something completely is happening between the close and far sides
[00:48] <alex87> jrib, thanks... wrong channel
[00:48] <cwillu> iRabbit, thanks
[00:48] <iRabbit> cwillu: welcome
[00:48] <cwillu> iRabbit, it's fine to paste that into this channel, I'll tell you if I'm going to grab anything sensitive
[00:49] <cwillu> iRabbit, did you install with wubi?
[00:49] <iRabbit> cwillu: ok, np :)
[00:49] <kish> cwillu, wonder why the vnc folks didnt make that
[00:49] <cwillu> kish, make what?
[00:49] <iRabbit> cwillu: install what?
[00:49] <cwillu> kish, vnc is _old_, and dead simple.
[00:49] <cwillu> it works on everything from unix to windows to dos
[00:50] <iRabbit> cwillu: Wine, WoW, or...
[00:50] <cwillu> iRabbit, no, I mean when you installed ubuntu\
[00:50] <iRabbit> cwillu: I used the Windows install thingy...installed from windows
[00:50] <cwillu> iRabbit, okay, that's the source of our trouble
[00:50] <iRabbit> cwillu: uh oh
[00:51] <cwillu> iRabbit, you're copying the wow folder into your home folder, but your home folder lives in a giant file on c:
[00:51]  * cwillu ponders a moment
[00:51] <ShrekLappy> anyone know how to use a digital camera as a webcam in ubuntu?
[00:51] <cwillu> iRabbit, is /media/OS your windows drive, as far as you can tell? (i.e., your c:\ drive?)
[00:52] <iRabbit> cwillu: right, but I have tons of space.... can I make the mount point of this wine thing somewhere else?
[00:52] <cwillu> iRabbit, yep, that's what I was pondering :p
[00:52] <iRabbit> cwillu: yes, I would like the mount point on the 2nd HDD D:
[00:52] <cwillu> iRabbit, how long have you been using this install?
[00:52] <iRabbit> cwillu: thats where Ubuntu is installed
[00:52] <iRabbit> cwillu: 4 days
[00:53] <cwillu> okay
[00:53] <Nayr> hey guys. For some odd reason, this game called xmoto won't work. It worked earlier today, so I dont know... The error was: There is no soundcard. fatal exception: unable to open database file. I am currently running ubuntu netbook.
[00:53] <cwillu> iRabbit, any philosophical objections to putting ubuntu onto its own dedicated partition?
[00:53] <Nayr> ShrekLappy, get skype
[00:53] <iRabbit> cwillu: it is.. its on the 2nd HDD
[00:54] <iRabbit> cwillu: I installed it on D when I ran the windows installer thingy
[00:54] <cwillu> iRabbit, check your pm's
[00:55] <sieson> I need to open a port the mysql port on my computer so others on my subnet can connect to my DB. Does anyone know how to do that?
[00:58] <Raikia> hi
[00:58] <Raikia> i love you
[00:58] <pritesh> "I love you" was that a question ????? lol
[00:59]  * toxictux hugs Raikia
[00:59] <pritesh> i think we got wrong number
[00:59] <Raikia> sorry.....my girlfriend thought it would be funny to type that for some reason
[01:00] <sexy_> Is there anyway to enable the click scroll feature on Ubuntu?
[01:01] <CkhiKuzad> sexy_ in some apps you can.
[01:01] <sexy_> It doesn't work in firefox =/
[01:01] <CkhiKuzad> Give me a second.
[01:01] <cwillu> sexy_, it's an option in "about:config" I believe, one sec
[01:02] <CkhiKuzad> Alright sexy_, go to your firefox preferences, then advanced, and click "Use autoscrolling"
[01:02] <cwillu> that one :)
[01:02] <CkhiKuzad> n.n
[01:02] <cwillu> or about:config -> general.autoScroll -> true
[01:02] <sexy_> ahh, thanks. Got it
[01:03] <Chr|s_> how do I upgrade, I forgot. Haven't logged on ubuntu in awhile lol
[01:03] <CkhiKuzad> Config works too, but it tempts people to mess with boolean values sometimes, and if you are a certain person with a laggy system whose name rhymes with... screw it, if you are me, you might want to change values that will kill FF.
[01:03]  * CkhiKuzad has done that twice.
[01:04] <milton> anyone know a good workaround for time limit on megavideo?
[01:05] <sexy_> reset your ip
[01:05] <milton> besides proxies
[01:05] <milton> i used dhclient to reset my ip
[01:05] <sexy_> My Ip resets every time I turn restart my modem, so it works perfectly for me
[01:05] <LeGrand_22Qc> go in "tmp" and tkae off the video.. copy it in your home folder...
[01:05] <milton> but im on a wlan
[01:06] <sexy_> Ehh
[01:06] <sexy_> Just download the movie
[01:06] <Aeronius> Check out this article on ZDNet, The Linux Desktop is about to get a LOT faster, and it doesn't look like hyperbole: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-linux-desktop-is-about-to-get-a-lot-faster/10372?tag=nl.e550
[01:06] <LeGrand_22Qc> megavideo and ubuntu : wait the progress bar reach the end.. then go to you "tmp" directory and copie the movie in your home folder :)
[01:06] <sexy_> Btw, a more appropiate channel for this #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <milton> legrand good idea
[01:07] <milton> but already reached limit for today
[01:07] <LeGrand_22Qc> wait 59 min and try it back ^^
[01:07] <donnie> I'm new here,morning everyone
[01:08] <LeGrand_22Qc> same, I'm new too :)
[01:08] <Gorroth> hi
[01:08] <Gorroth> kubuntu 10.10 netbook edition is growing on me
[01:08] <milton> bash command for checking ip in terminal?
[01:08] <Gorroth> took me a bit to figure out how the UI worked
[01:08] <najwa> donnie: morning
[01:10] <donnie> this os is very interesting,I don't know much about it.And my english is not good
[01:10] <bastidrazor> milton: ifconfig | grep inet    .. to get an external IP if you're behind a router you need to use a script
[01:11] <milton> bastidrazor:  awesome!
[01:11] <milton> thanks
[01:11] <bastidrazor> milton: err.. ifconfig alone will give it to you.. just look for "inet"
[01:12] <najwa> donnie: where do you come from ?
[01:12] <milton> bastidrazor: for inet im seeing my localhost
[01:13] <milton> 127.0.01
[01:13] <Nerdy3_14159265> I'm having trouble getting my number pad to work
[01:13] <milton> sry dumm of me
[01:13] <milton> got it
[01:13] <Raikia> Nerdy3_14159265: is nums lock on?
[01:14] <Nerdy3_14159265> Raikia: I know how to install another os, I think I can tell if nums lock is on or not
[01:14] <Raikia> :-P  Some smart people forget easy solutions
[01:14] <cwillu> !info wubi
[01:14] <cwillu> !wubi
[01:15] <Nerdy3_14159265> Raikia: :P I know, but I made sure that it was on
[01:18] <CT1> Is there an antivirus I can carry around on my ubuntu "live usb". to boot ubuntu from my flash disk and scan the windows pc I plug it into?
[01:18] <najwa> CT1: ClamAV
[01:19] <CT1> najwa: Thanks.  I'll google that.  Any others? I'm after the most reiable (perhaps even paranoid) scan engine/database
[01:19] <sexy_> Blah, shift a doesnt work anymore -_-
[01:20] <opc0de> bonne nuit
[01:21] <A_New_Server> What are some good FF-like games for Ubuntu?
[01:21] <divided> hi all having some problems configuring my wireless usb adapter with ubuntu
[01:21] <divided> wondering if i could get some help
[01:22] <Dwade09> ok guy i got wine installed and i got my disk in the cd drive i done wine /media/name of disk via tab and i get wine invalid handle, how can i get wine to install my sims3 disk?
[01:22] <hiexpo> divided, what kinda wireless card
[01:22] <divided> linksys wusb54g - installed ndiswrapper and windows drivers
[01:23] <divided> hardware looks like it's all ok, but i cant ping my router
[01:23] <hiexpo> wusb54g what v ersion
[01:23] <divided> v4
[01:23] <hiexpo> ok one sec
[01:25] <hiexpo> divided, v4 you don't need ndiswrapper
[01:25] <divided> should i uninstall it or leave it?
[01:25] <hiexpo> remove it
[01:25] <Raikia> whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[01:25] <divided> ok
[01:26] <hiexpo> and you installed a windows driver also divided  ?
[01:26] <aeon-ltd> Raikia: apt-get is another frontend to aptitude
[01:26] <divided> hiexpo: yes, with ndisgtk
[01:27] <hiexpo> divided, tou running ubuntu
[01:27] <divided> should i remove all of that as well?
[01:27] <hiexpo> ^you
[01:27] <divided> yes ubuntu
[01:28] <hiexpo> ya remove all that stuff
[01:28] <dogarrhea1> hi all
[01:28] <freakabcd> hi all
[01:28] <xuekan> hi ubottu
[01:29] <divided> hiexpo: all removed
[01:29] <freakabcd> is there a way to upgrade to gcc-4.5 or gcc-4.6 and update every package in the process?
[01:29] <freakabcd> because right now if i select gcc-4.5 it installs only 4.5 (and some of its deps) leaving 4.4 in place :(
[01:29] <hiexpo> ok open terminal and type iwconfig
[01:30] <freakabcd> also, if i try to remove gcc-4.4 it tries to remove a lot of packages
[01:30] <Scunizi> where are the mount points for an external USB HD found?  they're not in /media
[01:30] <dogarrhea1> i'm trying to do a masquerade nat thingy on openvpn + ubuntu.  I hear modifying iptables is dangerous sooooo how is this done?
[01:30] <divided> hiexpo: wlan0 not showing now, but it was when i had the other stuff installed
[01:31] <yeats> Scunizi: an external drive should show up in /media
[01:31] <hiexpo> divided, may need to reboot now
[01:31] <divided> hiexpo: rebooted before iwconfig
[01:31] <A_New_Server> What are some good RPGs that aren't resource-intensive
[01:31] <Scunizi> yeats: I'll poke around
[01:31] <dogarrhea1> and what would i do if i accidentally modify my iptables in a way that prevents me from accessing my ubuntu  server ...
[01:32] <mysteriousdarren> how weak for resources do u mean?
[01:32] <Scunizi> yeats: nope... not there.
[01:32] <hiexpo> ok one sec
[01:32] <A_New_Server> 1 GB is what I'd like the max it uses be, but I have 2 GB of RAM
[01:33] <A_New_Server> Dual core processor
[01:33] <BlueBomber> A_New_Server:   I don't know that much about RPGs in Unix, but I know there are emulators available for Unix.
[01:33] <dogarrhea1> i have been wodnering about these extra cores and programming.
[01:33] <BlueBomber> Unix + Linux, should say :)
[01:33] <dogarrhea1> how much extra work do you have to do when programming to take advantage of these extra cores
[01:34] <dogarrhea1> you didn't really have to think about it much a while ago and then all of a sudden you do..
[01:34] <A_New_Server> That's high level stuff, dogarrhea1
[01:34] <dogarrhea1> i know but there's 'threaded' programming
[01:34] <A_New_Server> Not sure if this is right, but from what I can tell you just open up threads
[01:34] <A_New_Server> That call to the different processors
[01:34] <hiexpo> divided, it has an antenna right
[01:34] <dogarrhea1> soooo you basically have to do a lot of work
[01:34] <dogarrhea1> and whenever new hardware comes out like a hex core
[01:34] <divided> hiexpo: ues
[01:34] <divided> *yes
[01:35] <dogarrhea1> you gotta refactor your code a LOT?
[01:35] <divided> hiexpo: but it's kinda busted (still works tho)
[01:35] <dogarrhea1> and write a different version for each different processor?
[01:35] <hiexpo> ok
[01:35] <dogarrhea1> seems like a pain in the ass
[01:35] <A_New_Server> Yup
[01:35] <BlueBomber> dogarrhea1:  It depends on how focused your code was on being specifically dual-core as opposed to being generally parallelizable.
[01:36] <Guest36980> hello. would someone please help. i'm stuck with getting wireless on my laptop
[01:36] <hiexpo> divided, what ver ubuntu u on
[01:36] <divided> 10.04
[01:36] <dogarrhea1> so you're saying it basically depends on the problem
[01:36] <dogarrhea1> if it's paralellizable or not....
[01:36] <A_New_Server> BlueBomber, you said you don't know that much about RPGs, does that mean you know of any good ones that won't dump on my resources? :]
[01:37] <sexy_> Has anyone used subsonic?
[01:37] <dogarrhea1> or cast in a light that shows its parallelization..  BUT that begs the question, if not all problems are parallelizable, why are they continuning to put even more cores and more cores
[01:37] <BlueBomber> I'm saying porting existing code effectively depends on your original design.  Designing something from square one for more cores is different.
[01:37] <blind> hey what can i use to scan a folder full of text files for a certain phrase?
[01:38] <ummmmm> i can't get wireless to work
[01:38] <mysteriousdarren> well try some rpgs out?
[01:38] <hiexpo> divided, looks like there is a bug i am searching it
[01:38] <A_New_Server> Also, idc if it's multiplayer, I mainly want single player
[01:38] <BlueBomber> blind: you scanning file names or file contents?
[01:38] <dogarrhea1> parallel computing is still kind of "new" in "computer science" (if youc an call it a science)
[01:38] <A_New_Server> I have an xbox for MMO :]
[01:38] <blind> BlueBomber: contents
[01:38] <BlueBomber> I use grep with file globbing.
[01:38] <blind> file globbing?
[01:38] <dogarrhea1> is there anything in ubuntu that optimizes for cores if you don't even think about coding simultaneous tasks?
[01:38] <divided> hiexpo: thanks, I might have to run soon, so if you find anything, msg me, i'll be on
[01:38] <BlueBomber> Yeah, e.g. *.jpg
[01:38] <blind> oh
[01:38] <divided> hiexpo: i'll be on a little later
[01:39] <BlueBomber> Or *.odt, etc.
[01:39] <blind> i always forget how powerful grep is
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> dogarrhea1: the kernel manages core stuff
[01:40] <hiexpo> divided, what comes up in iwconfig no rausb
[01:40] <humanMeat> oops got disconnected
[01:40] <humanMeat> actionparsnip,  I always hear "if you're not doing encoding, multicores dont' do anything"
[01:40] <divided> hiexpo: what is no rausb
[01:40] <humanMeat> if it's justa bout encoding, it would seem that multicore stuff is kind of useless for desktop
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> humanMeat: i'd say SQL benefitted from multicore
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> humanMeat: sql != encoding
[01:41] <freakabcd> guys discussing parallelisation, please read up on Amdahl's law
[01:41] <divided> hiexpo: right now, iwconfig shows lo no wireless connections, eth0 no wireless connections
[01:41] <divided> hiexpo: no wlan0
[01:41] <humanMeat> a lot of problems can't be parallelized anyways sooo
[01:41] <ummmmm> i got nothing on wireless
[01:42] <hiexpo> divided, pastebin the output for me
[01:42] <divided__> hiexpo: sorry, got booted
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> humanMeat: true but in some cases the benefit may be negligible
[01:43] <divided__> hiexpo: so not showing wlan0 in iwconfig
[01:43] <BlueBomber> Parallelization is a good thing!  But we aren't yet at the stage that our processors can recognize inherent code parallelism and take advantage of it.  Explicit parallelization has a tendenncy to intimidate, unless it's uber-obvious, e.g., in encoding/sql.
[01:43] <humanMeat> so intel and amd are ripping us off
[01:43] <hiexpo> no prob i said pastebin the output for me of iwconfig
[01:43] <humanMeat> "hex core i-920 for 1000$ gogogogo"
[01:44] <tiox> I hope that I don't get the runaround here, as for the past few days I have been researching for a solid way to install some of the "Experimental" compiz fusion plugins.
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> humanMeat: i dont have a motherboard newer than year 2000, so it probably wont fly here
[01:44] <tiox> I want the screensaver plugin. Anyone wanna help me out with what to do, what to get etc?
[01:45] <BlueBomber> tiox: I've installed freewins and wizard and a bunch of experimental ones.
[01:45] <JoshJ> Question: If I have a 64-bit intel processor, should I use the i386 install disk or the amd64 install disc? I'd prefer 64-bit if possible, but I don't want to run into intel/amd issues.
[01:45] <tiox> BlueBomber, what guide did you use?
[01:45] <tiox> BTW, running 10.10 here.
[01:45] <BlueBomber> There's a script out there that someone wrote.  IIRC you won't find packages until they're out of experimental phase.
[01:45] <divided__> hiexpo: pastebin.com/3eqtAE67
[01:45] <BlueBomber> I'm still on 10.04.  Lemme see if I can link you, tiox.
[01:45] <divided__> hiexpo: i have to run but i'll be back in around 30
[01:46] <freakabcd> JoshJ, there are no intel/amd issues. amd64 is the right iso
[01:46] <mtvx> Could not initialize Xv output
[01:46] <divided__> hiexpo: thanks for the help, i'll bbl
[01:46] <JoshJ> freakabcd, thank you
[01:46] <freakabcd> intel licenses some (most?) of the 64-bit technology from amd
[01:46] <mtvx> does anyone know what's all about
[01:46] <freakabcd> because their own 64-bit platform Itanium was like the Titanic!
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> mtvx: is that in mplayer
[01:46] <tiox> Oh yes, the itanic.
[01:47] <tiox> Loved hearing about that architecture.
[01:47] <van7hu> has anyone installed dosbox(with debugger) successfully under IA-64 ?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> van7hu: ive had dosbox on desktop amd64 ubuntu, not the debugger though
[01:47] <aLeSD> !ubottu install
[01:47] <mtvx> ActionParsnip: no it's in Parole Media Player (xubuntu)
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> mtvx: try changing the output video method from xv to something else
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: try just: !install
[01:48] <BlueBomber> tiox: http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/11/script-to-install-incredible-compiz.html
[01:48] <BlueBomber> I believe I used that.
[01:48] <van7hu> ActionParsnip: The problem is debugger :)
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> van7hu: i see, have you tried #dosbox
[01:49] <mtvx> ActionParnsnip: where do I do that? xorg.conf?
[01:49] <BlueBomber> I just installed everything.  Caveat emptor when you activate some of them, though.  I've had to start new sessions many times. :)
[01:49] <aLeSD> ActionParsnip thanks
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> mtvx: is it a media lpayer you are trying to run?
[01:51] <Bilz> any c++ programmers around with experience of installing gsl libraries in ubuntu? im a noob to both c++ and ubuntu...
[01:52] <mtvx> ActionPasnip: yes it's the default Media Player in xubuntu
[01:53] <freakabcd> lol Bilz .. what version of ubuntu?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> mtvx: then it will be in the config of the app, in the settings perhaps. i'd ask in #xubuntu too
[01:53] <Bilz> freakabcd, :) 10.04. I think I installed everything but maybe there is some sort of include when compiling?
[01:53] <mtvx> Thank you very much ActionParsnip. I'll look...
[01:54] <Barridus> hmmm, i just realized my volume controls are gone from the top panel.  not sure where they went away, but i miss them.  any ideas?
[01:54] <d70> hi, my "Open with" menu, is repeating options, how can edit it
[01:54] <d70> ?
[01:54] <Some_Person> How can I make ubuntu delete a folder on every boot?
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: add the command ni /etc/rc.local   above the exit 0 line, it will run as root
[01:55] <administrator_> ?
[01:55] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: When will it run?
[01:55] <sexy_> How do I set up Evolution? It never asks for the password to my email
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: just before the login screen / prompt appears
[01:56] <administrator_> is anybody from china >
[01:56] <The_Tick> sexy_: have you hit send/receive?
[01:56] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: I'll try it, though I worry that that may be too early
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> sexy_: so you want a password for when evolution starts up?
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: ok then if you want it when you log in, you can add the command in the startup items
[01:57] <Nerdy3_14159265> Ubuntu won't let me use my numpad
[01:57] <Jack___> hello
[01:57] <administrator_> lol
[01:57] <sexy_> No, I thought its used for integration with a Gmail, yahoo, etc account
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: you can even add a command in /etc/rc.local which like: sleep 20; command &     this will make the command run but wait 20 seconds, then happen
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> sexy_: yes, simply add the account under the tools menu
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: the suffix ampersand is important, it backgroun the parocess so the boot doesn't hang
[01:59] <Barridus> no idea on how to restore volume controls to the top panel?  not seeing any panel apps i can add that look appropriate, and i can't find anything in sound control panel nor the indicator applet
[01:59] <Jack___> anyone here know where I can find the default xorg.conf file used for ubuntu-netbook?
[01:59] <_jesse_> Barridus: run `gnome-volume-control-applet`
[01:59] <Barridus> _jesse_,  cool thanks.  should i put that in startup apps for next reboot then?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> Jack___: if you boot to recovery root console and run: Xorg -configure    you will generate a skeleton file you can move into /etc/X11
[02:00] <_jesse_> Barridus: I would
[02:00] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: rc.local is too late. How can I make it run after login?
[02:00] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: s/late/early
[02:00] <Jack___> where does it place the skeleton file?
[02:00] <Barridus> _jesse_, thank you
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> !startup | Some_Person
[02:01] <_jesse_> Barridus: np :)
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Jack___: the command states where it makes itr
[02:01] <Jack___> ok, ty
[02:01] <sexy_> But it never asks for a password? It just says authenication type Password. d there is a button to "Sav password" but it never asks to enter in a passs..
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> sexy_: add the password in teh account config, tick the box to remember the password to
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> too*
[02:02] <FruitBasket> I see in synaptic "upgradeable" and "upgradeable (upstream)". The difference is obvious. But why would I want to "upgrade" something if it hasn't actually changed?
[02:02] <Jack___> I updated my video driver and it killed xserver. I tried to rebuild the xorg.conf but something with the driver borked up the file
[02:02] <lccsc> 这个东西挺好
[02:02] <lccsc> 第一次使用
[02:02] <Jack___> anyone here have an asus 1215n?
[02:03] <Jack___> I think the 1201n is similiar
[02:03] <lccsc> 貌似都是外国人阿
[02:03] <lccsc> 有中国人吗
[02:03] <lccsc> 说话阿
[02:03] <sexy_> there is no password field >_>
[02:04] <_jesse_> !zh | lccsc
[02:04] <Jack___> I always forget about IRC, ganna have to start trolling this thing again lol
[02:04] <lccsc> 不知到这是干什么的
[02:04] <Jack___> thx for your help
[02:04] <lccsc> ok
[02:05] <tiox> And oh, Rockman, still installing stuff.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> sexy_: there must be, think about it
[02:05] <sexy_> I know there has to be one, but I cant find it anywhere
[02:05] <lccsc> 怎么加入阿
[02:05]  * tiox cues BlueBomber
[02:05] <_jesse_> !zh | lccsc
[02:05] <BlueBomber> (y)
[02:05] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: I added "rm -R /home/sam/.pulse" to Startup Applications, but it must still be running too early because the folder is still there after logging in
[02:06] <lccsc> how to join
[02:06] <Oakk> Hello, can anyone help me with a beginners install question?
[02:06] <_jesse_> lccsc: /j #ubuntu-cn
[02:06] <BlueBomber> tiox: I remember it taking a bit.
[02:06] <sexy_> Oakk, get to the question :)
[02:06] <maxyjj> guys do any one know where to get effects for compiz
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> sexy_: worked here before i ditched evolution: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-set-up-gmail-in-evolution-gnomes-mail-client-and-organizer/
[02:06] <Oakk> Thank you.
[02:06] <BlueBomber> Oakk: we can try!
[02:06] <edbian> Oakk, yes
[02:06] <maxyjj> i mean plugins
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: it will be, when pulseaudio starts it makes the folder
[02:06] <Oakk> I created an install cd, I rebooted with the cd loading up ok
[02:06] <edbian> maxyjj, sudo apt-get install ccsm    (it's a huge config program to set all the different plugins)
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: i'd use /home/sam/.pulse* to get the cookie too ;)
[02:07] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: I need to delete it after it creates it
[02:07] <Oakk> and half way during the boot up process it takes me to shell prompt and gives the error 'can not mount'
[02:07] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: Only the folder seems to matter
[02:07] <Oakk> I can reboot into it again and get you a detailed error msg if necessary
[02:07] <maxyjj> i got the ccsm but there not much plugins
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: not going to happen, the folder holds the settings. If it is running then the settings have been applied, then you will delete them which does nothing
[02:08] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: In case you're wondering, this is a working temporary fix to bug #644644 . It works if I manually delete it after logging in
[02:08] <edbian> maxyjj, Search "compiz" in synaptic.  There are a couple packages called plugins-extra and plugins-unsupported or soemthing.
[02:08] <lccsc> #ubunhk
[02:08] <_jesse_> lccsc: type '/join #ubuntu-hk' into the message box
[02:08] <maxyjj> i oo thanks i well look :)
[02:09] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: I just want to automate that so I don't have to worry about that stupid bug
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: then have a delay on the execution if it needs delaying
[02:09] <lccsc> #zhongguo
[02:09] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip:  how much of a delay do you think?
[02:10] <trojan_spike> maxyjj, in meta packages,, tick restricted extras,, for ubuntu gnome or kde,, depended on your OS
[02:10] <edbian> trojan_spike, That is wrong.
[02:10] <edbian> trojan_spike, He asked for compiz plugins.  Not audio codecs
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: 20 seconds at a guess
[02:10] <maxyjj> its ubuntu i got
[02:10] <Oakk> Am I not giving you guys enough information? Should I get you the full detailed error message?
[02:10] <edbian> Oakk, That would probably help.
[02:11] <edbian> maxyjj, Default Ubuntu is gnome.
[02:11] <trojan_spike> ?
[02:11] <maxyjj> ok
[02:11] <DavidJHeinrich1> good evening
[02:11] <edbian> trojan_spike, He didn't ask for audio codecs.  maxyjj asked for compiz plugins.
[02:12] <trojan_spike> theyre not all to do with codec
[02:12] <DavidJHeinrich1> I'm partitioning and formatting a 2TB hard drive in Ubuntu...is there any reason why I should make multiple partitions instead of one big one?
[02:12] <edbian> trojan_spike, They have nothing to do with compiz plugins
[02:12] <trojan_spike> really
[02:12] <edbian> DavidJHeinrich1, If you put home on a separate partition you can install fresh Ubuntu versions with the CD without losing your data.
[02:12] <trojan_spike> ok edbian u know ur stuff
[02:12] <edbian> trojan_spike, really
[02:12] <edbian> trojan_spike, ha, thanks.
[02:13] <trojan_spike> yawn
[02:13] <edbian> trojan_spike, Just trying to help :)  Sorry if I came off as rude.  I have a feeling I might have after re-reading that.
[02:13] <DavidJHeinrich1> edbian: for my main HD with my OS on it, /home is on a separate partition...I"m talking about a separate hard drive just for backing up data
[02:13] <edbian> DavidJHeinrich1, I see no reason not to.
[02:13] <edbian> DavidJHeinrich1, In that case.
[02:14] <DavidJHeinrich1> edbian: ok, thanks
[02:14] <DavidJHeinrich1> edbian: and is ext4 fine as a filesystem for backing up?
[02:14] <edbian> DavidJHeinrich1, It's not that it's good at backing up data.  It's appropriate for the size of the disk.
[02:14] <edbian> DavidJHeinrich1, short answer: yes
[02:14] <DavidJHeinrich1> edbian: k, thanks
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> DavidJHeinrich1: if you want to split your data up then sure why not, could backup certain media to a certain partition if you like
[02:15] <sexy_> Cool. Got it working. Can I get any help on using Subsonic now?
[02:15] <DavidJHeinrich1> well, since no reason not to, I'm  just gonna put on 1 partition...I don't want to have to figure out how large certain data will be (and almost all of it is photos anyways)
[02:16] <DavidJHeinrich1> diff question, it is installed into a SATA hotswap backplane inside of my case...b/c it is a SATA hotswap, is it safe to insert and remove it (after unmounting) with the computer on?
[02:16] <teneerf> Can some body help me out with a bash script? I want to find all my Thumbs.db and toss them in the trash. This is what I have so far:
[02:16] <teneerf> find /home -iname "thu*.db" | mv /Desktop
[02:17] <tiox> OMG it's still installing. I wonder if anyone would've ever thought to precompile these and release the final result in deb format??
[02:17] <trojan_spike> DavidJHeinrich1, yea
[02:17] <DavidJHeinrich1> trojan_spike: cool, so it is basically like a supersized USB stick, then
[02:17] <tiox> teneerf: BleachBit.
[02:18] <tiox> Install it, and you can delete all of your thumbnail files, as well as other uninportant files.
[02:18] <trojan_spike> DavidJHeinrich1, yea,, just be sure to unmount on PC,, because errors could be caused if not..
[02:18] <tiox> Just don't vacuum your Firefox stuff or you might end up with an undesired result.
[02:18] <DavidJHeinrich1> k, thanks a lot!
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> tiox: if you avoid settings which say they will take a long time, it will be faster
[02:18] <DavidJHeinrich1> sweet...so after I format and backup data to it, I can take it out and put it in my safe
[02:18] <teneerf> tiox: I'm trying to get better at bash, so I would rather figure out what I am doing wrong.
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> tiox: also close as many apps as you can so the files aren't locked
[02:19] <tiox> tiox: I was talking about installation to get the extra compiz pligins.
[02:19] <coz_> tiox,  you want the extra experimental plugins you mean?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> tiox: oh, thought you were on about bleachbit ;)
[02:19] <tiox> No, I simply suggested BleachBit.
[02:20] <tiox> Since someone asked how he could remove all the thumbnail files.
[02:20] <teneerf> yes, I just want to learn better cli
[02:20] <maxyjj> edbian : thanks for the help i got them all
[02:21] <DragonKeeper> how do i get my xbox 360 controller + mic to work in ubuntu 10.04
[02:21] <tiox> teneerf: Why learn how to do something trivial a program can do for you, aside from in the instance when you're on a machne you';re not allowed to install extra programs on?
[02:21] <tiox> machine*
[02:21] <teneerf> Because I want a better understanding of what's under my linuz hood.
[02:22] <teneerf> I am able to find all the Thumbs using find /home -iname "thu*.db" but now I want to take the results and move them to a folder.
[02:22] <antihc3> ok i am not seeing an option on ubuntu 10.10 to not install the bootloader!!!!
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> tiox: if you learn CLI you can make scripts to do complex operations which most likely won't be available in a gui app
[02:23] <divided> having problems with wireless usb adapter in ubuntu 10.04 - can anyone help?
[02:23] <xrdodrx> DragonKeeper, for what?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> tiox: also allows you to use your system as you like via ssh remotely :)
[02:23] <Oakk> Ok this is the exact error message I am getting during install when booting from cd. Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs on //filesystem.squashfs
[02:23] <tiox> Eh?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> divided: if you run: sudo lshw -C network   you should see the wireless chip and can websearch for it to find guides, failing that run: lsusb , and search for the 8 character hex id
[02:23]  * tiox doesn't forget, there's many ways to do one thing in Linux
[02:24] <DragonKeeper> xrdodrx   i want to be able use my control in games   but mainly just want the headset to work so i can skype and stuff
[02:24] <teneerf> ActionParsnip can you help me with the rest of the script?
[02:24] <divided> ActionParsnip: i tried a guide using ndiswrapper and it didn't work
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> teneerf: what script?
[02:24] <Oakk> Anyone have any idea what it can be?
[02:24] <xrdodrx> DragonKeeper, hmm, the headset might be possible...but I've never heard of anyone using an xbox controller w/ubuntu.
[02:25] <divided> ActionParsnip: my comp will recognize the adapter but I can't ping my router
[02:25] <trojan_spike> DragonKeeper, There will be alot of stuff on that in the forum.. For other gamers and skype people.. best bet would be there
[02:25] <teneerf> ActionParsnip Maybe I should have said command, I just want to find and move the thumbs to a folder of my choosing.
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> divided: does the wireless niterface have an IP?
[02:25] <DragonKeeper> okies
[02:26] <divided> ActionParsnip: yes, static
[02:26] <xrdodrx> DragonKeeper, I think it's an interesting concept, actually :o
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> divided: if you run: sudo iwlist scan   , do you see access points?
[02:26] <electrofreak> so... how do I get rid of the gnome-panel?
[02:26] <divided> ActionParsnip: wlan0 is not showing up now, but it was before
[02:27] <divided> ActionParsnip: when I do iwlist, i only see lo and eth0
[02:27] <Zelfje> hi, is there a way to scan a directory and automatically convert a file on upload?
[02:27] <DragonKeeper> xrdodrx i used to use it on my windows machine perfect but havnt found a ubuntu solution for the mic yet
[02:27] <Oakk> "Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs"
[02:27] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, why on earth would you want to do that? o_O
[02:27] <Oakk> Anyone know what can be causing that?
[02:27] <xrdodrx> DragonKeeper, cool. sorry for being so misinformed u.u
[02:28] <trojan_spike> electrofreak, i dont get completely rid of mine,, handy to have,, although u can put it on auto-hide,, under what ever youre using as task-bar?
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> teneerf: find . -iname "Thumb*" -exec mv {} ~/Desktop \;   looks ok to me, change what's in the quotes as you wish and change ~/Desktop if you dont want them moving there, change mv to cp if you want to copy
[02:28] <electrofreak> xrdodrx, awn
[02:28] <DragonKeeper> xrdodrx ty anyway
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> divided: then the wireless interface isnt working, setting an IP will not simply make the device work, you need drivers
[02:28] <Nerdy3_14159265> Can I get help getting Ubuntu to use my number pad
[02:28] <sexy_> For some reason I cant do shift a anymore...
[02:29] <divided> ActionParsnip: i tried adding drivers with ndiswrapper and ndisgkt but it didn't work
[02:29] <aoude> #python irc.freenode.net
[02:29] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, well, you could "killall gnome-panel"
[02:29] <electrofreak> xrdodrx, comes right back
[02:29] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I didn't think the command would be so complex.
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> divided: is there no native driver?
[02:30] <oxidizer> hi
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> teneerf: if you read it, it's not that hard
[02:30] <divided> ActionParsnip: no native linux driver, had to use windows one with ndiswrapper and ndisgkt
[02:30] <Zelfje> looking for something like autoit for ubuntu: ideas?
[02:30] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: What does the {} do?
[02:31] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, ok, sorry, never really done this. I found a solution though.
[02:31] <oxidizer> hi
[02:31] <Nerdy3_14159265> Guys any help getting my numpad working?
[02:31] <Karen_m> with coreutils 6.1, LANG='C', comm takes 6.2 minutes.   With coreutils 8.5 (ubuntu), LANG='C', comm takes almost 14 minutes.  The ubuntu machine is running on better hardware, and not busy disk...
[02:31] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, System>Preferences>Sessions...
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> teneerf: thats the found file ;)
[02:32] <oxidizer> hi
[02:33] <electrofreak> xrdodrx, yea.... I found several websites suggesting that... I don't have that menu item.
[02:33] <DragonKeeper> is it possible to use a windows driver on ubuntu (like you can install windows programs) ?
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> Karen_m: log a bug then....
[02:33] <Dwade09>  everytime i boot up i have to enter a keyring security code for my wifi to connect how do i get rid of that?
[02:33] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, nevermind, that's for an old version. spoke too soon
[02:33] <oxidizer> h
[02:33] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, type "gconf-editor" into a terminal
[02:33] <Zelfje> hi, is there a way to scan a directory and automatically convert a file on upload?
[02:33] <Zelfje> looking for something like autoit for ubuntu: ideas?
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> Dwade09: set a blank keyring password is one way
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> Zelfje: what does it do?
[02:33] <Dwade09> ActionParsnip, how?
[02:33] <oxidizer> ..
[02:34] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, you there?
[02:34] <Zelfje> openscad commandline convert to stl
[02:34] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: and what does the last "\" and ";" do? I thought" ;" separates commands.
[02:34] <electrofreak> xrdodrx, yes
[02:34] <Zelfje> it works under regular user, not www-data for no X
[02:34] <Zelfje> so want to try it other way around
[02:34] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, ok, click the "desktop" folder, than "gnome", then "session"
[02:34] <Zelfje> let script run under user and check a dir to convert
[02:35] <electrofreak> xrdodrx, kk
[02:35] <divided> ActionParsnip: it's failing to bring up wlan0 now, do you know why that is?
[02:35] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, click required_components, right-click panel and press "unset key"
[02:36] <aoude> hey does anyone know anything about terminal and python?
[02:36] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, now you should be able to kill gnome-panel
[02:37] <xrdodrx> (as you can see, doing this is not recommended by canonical :P)
[02:37] <sp4z> aoude, what do you want to know?
[02:37] <electrofreak> xrdodrx, ok. unset key doesn't seem to do anything
[02:38] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, does the "delete" key on the keyboard do anything?
[02:38] <BlueBomber> aoude: Yes, a bit about both Python and GNOME-terminal.
[02:38] <electrofreak> no. I'll look at the config file itself
[02:38] <aoude> sp4z can you tell me how i show only one line of text from gedit??
[02:38] <divided> can anyone recommend a wireless-N usb adapter that plays well with ubuntu?
[02:38] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, good idea, but that's where it'll be
[02:38] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, sorry, I did everything on my end up to "unset key" b/c obviously I don't want to unset key
[02:39] <aoude> python ex2.py
[02:39] <aoude>  and then what?
[02:39] <Zelfje> this process:  http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using_OpenSCAD_in_a_command_line_environment works for regular user, i want to excecute it when a open scad file is uploaded to my webserver
[02:39] <electrofreak> xrdodrx, kk. I'll take it from here. I was just seeing if anyone had a simple "oh yea.... all you do is...."
[02:39] <xrdodrx> electrofreak, alright, have fun :D
[02:40] <sp4z> aoude, 1 line of text from gedit in your terminal? i take it you are talking about your source code and you want to print one line to the terminal?
[02:40] <aoude> sp4z can i enter a seperat irc privately w/ you some how?
[02:41] <xrdodrx> !msg | aoude
[02:41] <divided> can anyone recommend a wireless-N usb adapter that plays well with ubuntu?
[02:41] <xrdodrx> !repeat | divided
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | divided
[02:42] <Zelfje> ideas?
[02:42] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: I was logged in as root and got all permission denied. then I tried to exit root and tried sudo instead, still all permission denied.
[02:42] <Zelfje> bash from php works, but no openscad for no X, dont think its a good idea to give www-data a home dir
[02:43] <sl33k__> some youtube videos canot be viewed properly on my 10.04, whats the issue?
[02:43] <clincher> some?
[02:43] <sl33k__> i guess most
[02:44] <c2tarun> i m not getting sound directory in my /home/name/.xchat2/sound ???
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> teneerf: not sure there, check file ownership and mount options etc
[02:44] <eross>  when things move to wayland/unity, would some older kde/gnome games be incompatible?
[02:45] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: Ok, I search on the forums and post if need be, thanks
[02:45] <pdg1> Jordan_U : hey remember helping me the other day?
[02:45] <BlueBomber> sl33k__: Can you give a link?  I'm running 10.04 and don't see any issues.
[02:46] <sl33k__> i am on chrome
[02:46] <Zelfje> sl33k__: did you intall flash?
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> sl33k__, did you happen to sign up for the html5 version of youtube?
[02:46] <crazifyngers> hey guys could anyone give me a hand recovering a raid-5 dm raid partition?  i can't get it to mount after moving the drives to a new computer /dev/md0 shows up in mdadm.conf with the same uid but when assembling it says "mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array." yet the drives are there and have the uuid listed
[02:47] <humanMeat> how do you read the routing table
[02:47] <sarmeast> I'm having trouble getting wifi to work on Ubuntu Studio 10.10 64bit
[02:47] <sarmeast> after entering network name and password, it simply refuses to connect
[02:47] <Zelfje> looking for something like autoit for ubuntu: ideas?
[02:47] <sarmeast> I'm running an atheros 9k on an MSI M2675 notebook
[02:47] <humanMeat> autoit sucks
[02:48] <humanMeat> mind as well just use windows api
[02:48] <Zelfje> sure, but it would 'do the job'
[02:48] <Zelfje> dont want to run win in vm eat too much resources
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> humanMeat: if you run: route   you can see the routing table of the system
[02:48] <Zelfje> all work on ubuntu, just need some system to automate
[02:49] <humanMeat> actionparsnip, i want to know how to read the table that comes after netstat -rn
[02:49] <sarmeast> Are there any known problems with the atheros cards and 64 bit Meerkat?
[02:49] <humanMeat> what is the destination column
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> sarmeast: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network   ,you will see the wireless chip used, use that to websearch for guides
[02:49] <humanMeat> and the gateway column etc.
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> sarmeast: i use atheros, works out of the box. its an ar5000+
[02:50] <sarmeast> i'll try
[02:50] <sarmeast> but it probably won't work
[02:50] <Zelfje> atheros or prism is good, most cheap off the shelve have crappy chips, unless your able to find a realtek
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Zelfje: most use cheapo broadcom things
[02:51] <CheeseSauce> hi guys
[02:52] <CheeseSauce> bye guys
[02:52] <Zelfje> Any idea for having automated file conversion when a file is uploaded?
[02:52] <manuel_> how can i used my usb tv turner and watch tv???
[02:53] <divided> can anyone recommend a wireless-N usb adapter that plays well with ubuntu?
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> manuel_: run: lsusb  use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[02:53] <humanMeat> what are the columns in the netstat -rn routing table supposed to mean?
[02:54] <manuel_> this hex id? 2304:023f
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> Zelfje: you could have a scheduled task using cron to scan the folders for files which need converting, convert the file then delete the original
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> manuel_: yes, use that and you'll find guides
[02:54] <maxyjj> i cant install the driver for this wireless card bcm4312 rev 01
[02:54] <manuel_> where would i search? on google? or software center?
[02:55] <Zelfje> i'll look into that thanks ActionParsnip
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | maxyjj
[02:56] <sarmeast> It's an Atheros 928X
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> sarmeast: ok now you know the chip, you can find guides
[02:57] <humanMeat> what doess a destination of <IP_ADDRESS> and a gateway of <IP_ADDRESS> mean?
[02:57] <Raikia> how do you limit user's directory access in ssh?
[02:58] <humanMeat> what kind of gateway has an ip of <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[02:59] <humanMeat> i can't find an explanation..
[02:59] <humanMeat> all they say is "this ip is the gateway.  The other column is the destination"
[02:59] <humanMeat> like I can't read the column name.
[02:59] <GGtus> okay...
[03:00] <GGtus> so i keep getting the pyron no disk error
[03:00] <GGtus> and after all that is done
[03:00] <Some_Person> How can I make ubuntu delete a folder on every login (startup applications deletes it too early so that's not working)
[03:00] <GGtus> i tried to boot from usb
[03:00] <GGtus> selected usb as boot device
[03:00] <GGtus> and it just sat at a black screen
[03:00] <GGtus> with the little _ underscore in the top left corner
[03:01] <c0l2e> my ubuntu 10.10 workstation currently configures as ldap client and getting users and groups from our ldap server... is it possible to selectively remove users in the login list??
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> GGtus: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[03:02] <Guest20352> I am using Xubuntu, where would I report a bug if after pressing several time "toggle touchpad on/off" on HP Compaq Presario CQ61-400EW I got input/output error and other weird messages and I was unable to input anything from keyboard until I restarted X server (alt+ctrl+backspace didn't work, but alt+ctr+f1 worked)? Or what steps should I take to further investigate what causes the problem?
[03:03] <gogeta1> Guest20352: ctrl alt backspace is disabled by defult so that parts not a bug
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest20352: you can re-enable CAB in keyboard settnigs
[03:05] <GGtus> thank you for the help
[03:05] <humanMeat> what kind of ip address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:05] <GGtus> nothing seems to be working
[03:05] <GGtus> so i'll just try 10.04
[03:05] <gogeta1> humanMeat: no ip
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> humanMeat: broadcast
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> humanMeat: sorry, network
[03:05] <humanMeat> er? no ip or broacast
[03:06] <humanMeat> so a gateway of <IP_ADDRESS> and a destination of some local ip means what?
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> humanMeat: http://compnetworking.about.com/od/workingwithipaddresses/g/0_0_0_0_ip-address.htm
[03:06] <tiox> BlueBomber: Mind if I PM?
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> humanMeat: probably means you failed dhcp, but that usually gives a <IP_ADDRESS>/24 address
[03:07] <tjk> hello
[03:09] <Guest20352> ActionParsnip: OK, good to know about CAB, but I would still like to make my computer stable. Is there any keyboard input daemon or something that has a bug tracker separate from X server? And generally should I seek assistance at people developing X11 or XFCE? Should I test my case further running different desktop environments?
[03:10] <hanasaki> how do I clear the passwords rememberd for smb logins from nautilus?
[03:11] <hanasaki> where si the password manager that saves gnome passwords?
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest20352: could try these boot options in various combinations:   i8024.reset   i8024.nomux=1   irqpoll    may help
[03:11] <abudawud> Applications>Accessories>Passwords and Encryption keys
[03:13] <FunkyDude> anyone know of a good open source music editing/creation tool?
[03:14] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: I think I know why I was getting the permission denied. It was moving the first Thumbs.db to the desktop but when it went to move the second Thumbs.db it had the same file name (Thumbs.db). (Mutitable files with the same file name.
[03:14] <teneerf> )
[03:14] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: I used your example and changed mv to rm. It would have been safer to send them to the recycle bin, but didn't know how.
[03:14] <Guest20352> FunkyDude: there is a whole Ubuntu distribution for it - Ubuntu Studio
[03:15] <BlueBomber> FunkyDude: There are many!  Ardour, Audacity, lots of plugins like Hydrogen, LMMS.  Check osalt.com
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> teneerf: no sure about recycle bins in terminal dude, could ask in #bash
[03:16] <FunkyDude> ty
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> lmms rocks :)
[03:16] <Magnavox> Does anyone in here know if the playstation network is down?
[03:17] <shine_> after using sshfs mount a remote folder and put the computer to sleep, then wake the computer, it takes forever to for "ls" to display the contents that contains the sshfs folder unless I reboot, and re-sshfs. Any advice on solving this?
[03:17] <pdg1> so... I'm going crazy with only windows7 starter on my netbook and i would like to do a dual boot with Ubuntu since i've already payed for windows. i'm worried about the grub boot loader not finding windows
[03:17] <veoto> Hello
[03:18] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: anyways, just wanted to say thanks, also what does the trailing \; do?
[03:18] <egsome> When we should see a fix for this bug released https://bugs.launchpad.net/autofs/+bug/393012 ?
[03:18] <gogeta1> pdg1: it should find it fine
[03:18] <veoto> I've got an issue with installing simplescalar. If anyone has any experience with it I would appreciate assistance.
[03:18] <egsome> since the bug fix already released from Samba
[03:18] <pdg1> gogeta1 : just install to one of the partitions and set grub to sda?
[03:19] <gogeta1> pdg1: ubuntu does all of that auto
[03:20] <ninjai> is there a GUI front end for GNU Privacy Guard 2?
[03:20] <gogeta1> pdg1: 1so install to partation you whant to let it install and grub goes to the first drive as defuly and should auto gen a menu with windows on it
[03:21] <maxyjj> no luck on the BCM4321,its giving me  Sorry, the installation of this driver failed.
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> teneerf: as far as I know, it escapes the {} bit
[03:22] <veoto> Has anyone here installed simplescalar before?
[03:23] <pdg1> gogeta1 : i hope so... i don't know where the recovery partition is :p
[03:23] <tjk> exit
[03:23] <gogeta1> pdg1: well dont delete recovery and it should find that to
[03:23] <gogeta1> pdg1: its probly a paration abought 10gb in size
[03:23] <FunkyDude> wow, lmms is pretty cool
[03:24] <pdg1> gogeta1 : but i don't know where it is... but i can only assume it's not 58gb
[03:24] <maxyjj> i have oped that file and don't know Please have a look at the log file for details.: /var/log/jockey.log
[03:24] <pdg1> gogeta1 : 16gb sound right?
[03:24] <gogeta1> pdg1: yea
[03:24] <gogeta1> pdg1: atm you should have 2 partation recovery and windows
[03:24] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: Thanks, like you said, one of these days I want to know enough bash to get around in a server.
[03:24] <gogeta1> pdg1: maybe 3 if you have express gate
[03:25] <pdg1> i have 4
[03:25] <gogeta1> pdg1: 4?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> teneerf: its dead handy. You can make scripts and scripts which run collebctions of scripts etc
[03:26] <pdg1> gogeta1 : yeah, but one is 21mb
[03:26] <teneerf> ActionParsnip: yes, exactly!!
[03:26] <gogeta1> pdg1: well windows will be the largest and safe to resize
[03:27] <gogeta1> pdg1: well if you have 3 you should hve windoes recover and express gate
[03:27] <gogeta1> pdg1:express gate will be like 1gb maybe less
[03:28] <__machine> how can i get a later version of a particular package (znc) from backports or something into 8.04 lts?
[03:29] <gogeta1> pdg1: the safest bet would be to make a recovery dvd in case you did nuke it
[03:29] <pdg1> gogeta1 : i have 4. 80GB -windows, 15GB -recovery?, 54.03GB -unsure, and 21MB -notsure
[03:29] <CensoredBiscuit> What would make the clock in gnome lock up but yet the system time still be correct?
[03:30] <gogeta1> pdg1: well recover whont be 54gb thats for shure
[03:30] <gogeta1> pdg1: if you have a c and d drive in windows its a storage partation weard for 1 drive thow
[03:31] <icarus-c> CensoredBiscuit, clock applet just show your system time. itself is not supervising the system time nor hardware clock
[03:31] <CensoredBiscuit> what would make the clock applet lock up?
[03:31] <icarus-c> CensoredBiscuit, crashes? bugs?
[03:32] <CensoredBiscuit> hmmm... hmmm...
[03:32] <pdg1> gogeta1 : i was going to consult the manual... but it was pretty useless
[03:32] <icarus-c> CensoredBiscuit, you may restart the panel or kill the locked up clock applet and let gnome panel reload it
[03:32] <gogeta1> pdg1: as i said if you show 2 drives in windows 54gb is probly stoage
[03:32] <gogeta1> storage
[03:33] <Chr|s> Clean Install of ubuntu 10.10 unable to add Facebook account to Gwibber
[03:35] <gogeta1> pdg1: just odd they did that for windows on a defult install
[03:35] <pdg1> gogeta1: sounds like sda2 is my best bet
[03:36] <gogeta1> pdg1: well as i said 15gb is more then likely the recovery
[03:36] <gogeta1> pdg1: the rest are os
[03:37]  * tiox wonders what happened to bluebomber
[03:37] <Chr|s> anyone have any idea how I can fix Gwibber o.0
[03:37] <phrix> Chr|s, whats wrong??
[03:38] <Chr|s> phrix:  unable to add any accounts
[03:38] <gogeta1> pdg1: the 24mb is likely the padding for the drive in case of failed sectors
[03:39] <neil_d> I have a mdadm raid1 device mounted as /mnt/filesystem, setup in /etc/fstab... can bind mount /var/ to a directory in /mnt/filesystem?  is the mount program cleaver enough to know it must mount the /mnt/filesystem first before the bind mount?
[03:39] <pdg1> gogeta1 : thanks :)
[03:39] <robojake> Anyone here make their own custom live CD?
[03:40] <gogeta1> robojake: umm
[03:40] <neil_d> robojake: I did once... found a script on the internet that did most of the work for me.
[03:40] <yuz> hmm
[03:40] <phrix> Chr|s, have you updated it??
[03:40] <gogeta1> robojake: you can make anything you whant the question is to gebrel
[03:40] <Chr|s> phrix:  clean install of ubuntu 10.10 didn't think I had too o.0
[03:40] <gogeta1> genrel
[03:41] <Chr|s> I am updating some files now, will try it again aftewards
[03:41] <phrix> maybe you should try... :)
[03:42] <sacarlson> neil_d:  can't you just create a sym link to your your /mnt/filesystem?
[03:43] <neil_d> sacarlson: probably...
[03:43] <robojake> I've made my own custom live cd but I can't seem to figure out how to edit the default desktop items, I want some scripts on the desktop and I also want to remove the "install ubuntu" icon
[03:43] <Some_Person> How can I make ubuntu delete a folder on every login? I tried startup applications but it does it too early
[03:44] <phrix> I got problem with keyring, everytime I log in, the panel says keyring doesnt match always appears... any clue??
[03:44] <ChogyDan> robojake: why do you want to remove the install icon?  Is this just a live install? or an installer?
[03:44] <neil_d> Some_Person: you could use a cron script...
[03:45] <Some_Person> neil_d: What's a cron script?
[03:45] <icarus-c> Chr|s, it is a bit tricky. i just tried it, you have to authorize twice
[03:45] <robojake> it's a recovery live cd tool
[03:45] <robojake> with safecopy, testdisk, smbfs installed
[03:45] <icarus-c> Chr|s, the first time need to enable gwibber app on facebook. and it hasn't add facebook to gwibber account yet. the 2nd time will do
[03:46] <neil_d> Some_Person: its a script that get run at definable intervals (min. 1 per minute)  it could check for your directory and delete it when found.
[03:46] <Chr|s> hmm shouldn't have to authorize twice, will try again after updates are done
[03:46] <yuz> join #python
[03:46] <Milossh> hello, is there anyone on netbook remix here?
[03:47] <neil_d> Some_Person: see http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html
[03:47] <Some_Person> neil_d: I just want it to run once on login, but not too early
[03:47] <Rogan_> Does anyone happen to know the name of the VMWare Server GUI, I'd like to start it but have no idea what it is
[03:47] <Exploiter> VMworkstation
[03:48] <Rogan_> Command not found, it's the actual server's gui management, not the work station
[03:48] <ChogyDan> robojake: is this just for you?  If so, it might be easier to create a persistent live install, and just customize it
[03:48] <Raikia_> does anyone know what "Too many connections" means on ubuntu startup (before the login screen)?
[03:48] <neil_d> Some_Person: maybe run a script from the "Startup Applications" with the first command being "sleep"... the "sleep" command waits around for some time before exiting
[03:49] <Some_Person> neil_d: How long would I need to wait for pulseaudio to load and recreate ~/.pulse ?
[03:51] <neil_d> Some_Person: I don't know... but I would it should do it quickly... try "sleep 5" for a 5 second delay... otherwise you could put the script in a loop (with a "sleep 1" in it) until the directory does appear then delete it and exit
[03:52] <ChogyDan> Some_Person: are you waiting for pulseaudio to load?  redundent question, but is that what you are doing?
[03:53] <GP40MC> How do u defrag?
[03:54] <Some_Person> ChogyDan: I need to delete the .pulse folder, but not so early that it gets recreated when pulseaudio loads
[03:54] <Some_Person> ChogyDan: It's a temporary fix for this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/644644
[03:54] <GP40MC> How do u defrag?????????????????????
[03:54] <Some_Person> GP40MC: You don't
[03:54] <GP40MC> why?
[03:54] <Exploiter> GP40MC: linux partitions dont need defrag
[03:54] <neil_d> GP40MC: I never have
[03:54] <ChogyDan> Some_Person: have you tried an upstart script?
[03:54] <Raikia> GP40MC: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383100
[03:55] <Some_Person> GP40MC: extX partitions don't need it
[03:55] <Some_Person> ChogyDan: No, I haven't. When would that load?
[03:55] <ChogyDan> Some_Person: well, upstart controls everything
[03:56] <sl33k__> I used wubi installer to install ubuntu in my C drive. That drive is running out of memory. How should
[03:56] <sl33k__> How should i increase disk space
[03:56] <sl33k__> ?
[03:57] <sl33k__> ???
[03:58] <sl33k__> ^
[03:58] <ranjan> Hi all, how to copy files starting with a . using cp?
[03:59] <Raikia> ranjan: I believe you can escape the .
[03:59] <ChogyDan> Some_Person: on, maybe you could make an upstart script with something like start on started pulseaudio /n exec /bin/sleep 30 /n exec rm the_file
[03:59] <Raikia> for example, if you have a file ".bash_history"
[03:59] <ChogyDan> Some_Person: s/on/ok/
[03:59] <Raikia> cp \.bash_history ~/Desktop
[03:59] <ranjan> Raikia, but i am copying recursively
[03:59] <EvilPhoenix> i've got an ssl cert from a legitimate source, and i'd like openssl to work with it, where should I configure it all?
[03:59] <Raikia> I'm not 100% sure though
[03:59] <Raikia> ah
[04:00] <Raikia> sl33k__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide and scroll down to "How do i resize the virtual disks"
[04:00] <Raikia> ranjan: it still works recursively for me... does it not for you?  Can you give me an example?
[04:01] <ChogyDan> Some_Person: if you need syntax help to test that idea, let me know
[04:01] <ranjan> Raikia, ok i have a folder called "hello" and another one called "hai"
[04:01] <ranjan> i have a file named .a in hello and want to copy it to "hai"
[04:02] <ranjan> Raikia, ok i got that.
[04:02] <Exploiter> mv ~/hello/.a* ~/hai/
[04:02] <ranjan> Raikia, the question was silly i think
[04:02] <Raikia> ah, ok :-)
[04:02] <ranjan> Raikia, Exploiter, a cp -vrf hello/  hai/ will do the trick
[04:03] <Exploiter> mv for move, cp for copy upto you
[04:03] <ranjan> Exploiter, yes :)
[04:04] <Rogan_> ARGH. OK, how does one connect to a windows workgroup from ubuntu gui... I know it's a stupid question, but things just aren't working
[04:04] <steven> Hello.
[04:04] <Rogan_> It doesn't appear under "Windows Network" in networks, so I'm assuming I add it with the "Connect to server" option listed below that?
[04:04] <icarus-c> Rogan_, Places -> Network
[04:04] <steven> Mind if I pick your brain?
[04:05] <Chr|s> I set up gwibber, made a few posts. How do I remove "is" from facebook?
[04:05] <steven> I need an algorithm tat uses for loops to match numbers: 01, 02, 03, 12, 13, 23
[04:06] <steven> it's giving me a headache.
[04:07] <anirudhr> Hello. I'm using 10.04 and I just installed nautilus elementary using the PPA https://launchpad.net/~am-monkeyd/+archive/nautilus-elementary-ppa. I did this expressly to give myself an embedded terminal in Nautilus, but I'm unable to find out how to activate it. Please help.
[04:07] <sl33k__> how to use the downloaded "indentation setup for shell type sh"?
[04:08] <sl33k__> it is getting opened in emacs?
[04:08] <Raikia> what?
[04:08] <iRabbit> cwillu: when I get to the instillation screen from the CD install which option do I want?
[04:08] <cwillu> iRabbit, I don't have the screen in front of me
[04:09] <sl33k__> Raikia: i downloaded an installer but it open in editor
[04:10] <iRabbit> cwillu: Allocate drive space... Install alongside other OS, erase entire disk, specify partition manually
[04:10] <Raikia> run it through command line
[04:10] <sl33k__> some shell type file
[04:10] <ablyss> steven, var="01 02 03 04"; for i in $var do ; if [[ $i == *$var* ]];then echo True; fi ; done
[04:10] <Raikia> type ./filename
[04:10] <cwillu> iRabbit, does it give you a list of drives?
[04:10] <iRabbit> Manual and along side, yes
[04:10] <cwillu> iRabbit, install alongside other os is probably want
[04:11] <shelll> hello. firefox completely froze up my entire Ubuntu so I had to do a hard shutdown. Now my icons in Nautilus are default and ugly, they don't change no matter which icons I click in "Appearances". But I do see my panel icons changing. Why is Nautilus behaving this way?
[04:12] <iRabbit> cwillu: Alright I have that Blank HDD selected. Use entire disk? Or slide bar for files and Ubuntu
[04:12] <Raikia> shelll: try restarting now
[04:12] <cwillu> use entire disk is probably what you want, according to what we said before
[04:12] <iRabbit> Ok
[04:13] <sl33k__> Raikia: Permission denied
[04:13] <iRabbit> Soo all 500gb will be Ubuntu /dev/sbd(ext4)
[04:13] <Raikia> sl33k__: chmod 755 filename
[04:13] <Raikia> then run it
[04:14] <iRabbit> cwillu: Correct, based on what we discussed earlier?
[04:14] <r3sno> my wifi connection settings and drivers get erased at reboot, how can i make them persist? use a @reboot cron?
[04:14] <Raikia> iRabbit: are you installing ubuntu on a separate hdd from another os?
[04:14] <cwillu> iRabbit, it should split it into swap and ext4
[04:15] <cwillu> Raikia, yes, he is
[04:15] <Raikia> Ah, I did that two days ago
[04:15]  * cwillu goes to bed now
[04:15] <iRabbit> Thanks and g'night
[04:16] <r3sno> night cwillu
[04:16] <Raikia> hahaha
[04:16] <Raikia> i think there is a bug in the file system properties
[04:16] <aboleth> hi
[04:16] <ChogyDan> Some_Person: oh, nother idea, just blank the file and that chattr -i file.  Anyway, gl
[04:16] <Raikia> its telling me that my 1 TB harddrive currently uses 128.4 TB
[04:16] <DK> Hello, everyone.
[04:16] <shelll> Hmm restarting had no effect. Is there a way to restore Nautilus? Maybe there is a cache problem that needs to be refreshed? I tried updating the ~/.icons and ~/.themes with update-icon-caches but still no change. Nautilus icons are default, not changing with the Appearances theme selected.
[04:17] <arrrghhh> hey all any rssdler users in here?
[04:18] <jesse_> ok hey
[04:18] <Raikia> shelll: :-/....im not sure what to do...sorry bro
[04:18] <Raikia> Maybe make a post in ubuntuforums?
[04:18] <jesse_> i have one question. i downloaded e16 (yes 16 >_>) but i cant figure out how to get to it
[04:18] <shelll> Raikia: Oh looks like I solved it. I had to killall nautilus.
[04:18] <shelll> That's weird ...
[04:18] <iRabbit> Thanks again for all the help, ill be back tomorrow ;)
[04:18] <Raikia> ah, ok.  Glad you got it :-)
[04:18] <shelll> I restarted and techincally this should have killed all nautilus processes when I booted into Gnome again.
[04:19] <Raikia> I would have thought restarting would have solved it
[04:19] <jesse_> ...
[04:19] <shelll> Weird.
[04:19] <Raikia> yeah....lol
[04:19] <jesse_> anybody, anytime -.-'
[04:19] <sl33k__> Raikia: i have a drive in /media so what argument i put in ---> sudo sh wubi-add-virtual-disk /home 15000 <---  also how much GB should i reserve atleast, i.e how much in MB?
[04:20] <shelll> jesse_: in your GDM there should be an entry for E16 that you can select.
[04:20] <jesse_> in my GDM
[04:20] <shelll> Gnome Display Manager.
[04:21] <Raikia> sl33k__: I can't understand your half sentences....can you please type full sentences?
[04:22] <jesse_> shelll: ok thanks.
[04:22] <sl33k__> Raikia: i have a drive mounted on the /media directory so what i put in argument for the path?
[04:22] <sl33k__> udo sh wubi-add-virtual-disk /home 15000
[04:22] <Gorroth> hi
[04:23] <r3sno> ive got my wifi setup and configured. but on reboot its resets and i have to do it again. any ideas?
[04:23] <sl33k__> Also how much memory in MB would you recommend to reserve Raikia?
[04:23] <aboleth> Hello, I use Ubuntu 10.04 and it has been working decently until earlier today. I wasn't doing anything particularly unusual and I noticed both Banshee and Pidgin seemed to have froze. I tried to bring up several things to end the programs, but nothing would work. After several minutes a few new messages seemed to have appeared in Pidgin, but right after that it froze again.  When
[04:23] <aboleth> I tried to load Ubuntu again after turning it back on it told me I had errors with my hard drive. I then restarted again and went into recovery mode. After it was done running everything it put me at a prompt. I didn't know what to do so I just restarted it again. This time I didn't get the GRUB screen and instead got some kind of emergency GRUB mode or something. About the only thing that I suspect this could come from is that I've known that I had some
[04:23] <aboleth> problems with the drive's sectors and stuff and I would get prompted about it before I logged in, but I never felt like waiting for it and didn't bother to fix it. Now on a livecd my drive isn't even detected and I'm not sure what do. Can anyone help me?
[04:23] <FloodBot4> aboleth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <_Beast> mounting smb shares via ubuntu need help
[04:24] <Raikia> sl33k__: yes, that is the command assuming you want to resize it to ~15 GB
[04:25] <sl33k__> Raikia: in the path do i put /home/media/drivename ?
[04:25] <Chr|s> I set up gwibber, made a few posts. How do I remove "is" from facebook posting?? I didn't put it there.
[04:25] <Raikia> no, /home is sufficient, i believe
[04:26] <sl33k__> Raikia: how will it know the particular disk?
[04:26] <Raikia> Chr|s: I believe the "is" is hardcoded into Gwibber from when facebook used to require it....not sure though
[04:26] <Raikia> sl33k__: because it is currently running off of it
[04:26] <Chr|s> thats a bummer...guess im not using gwibber then heh
[04:27] <Raikia> /home is the home location on the current file system
[04:27] <_Beast> mmounting smb shares need help
[04:27] <sl33k__> Raikia: but it is D: i want to move to from C: ?
[04:27] <Some_Person> ChogyDan: I got it to work with a shell script
[04:27] <ChogyDan> cool
[04:28] <sl33k__> Raikia: i am telling in terms of windows
[04:28] <al_nz1> is there a way to upgrade my ubuntu 9? to 10 without a reinstall? like a inplace upgrade?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | al_nz1
[04:28] <r3sno> ive got my wifi setup and configured. but on reboot its resets and i have to do it again. any ideas?
[04:28] <shelll> aboleth: can you do: ls /dev/sd* and tell us what devices show up. Assuming you have only 1 drive in this PC, it should be /dev/sda device. What you'll need to do is run fsck on your hard drive partitions to fix them without them being mounted.
[04:28] <Raikia> sl33k__: Ok, what is your objective?  to increase the size of the wubi virtual disk?
[04:28] <_Beast> is there any channels were people are not pussys
[04:28] <aboleth> shelll: thanks I will do just that
[04:29] <r3sno> _Beast: this is afamily channel can you watch your language
[04:29] <_Beast> family scripts
[04:29] <_Beast> my ass
[04:29] <sl33k__> Raikia: does it mean taking help of other disk?
[04:29] <aboleth> shelll: /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda5
[04:29] <sl33k__> like my install is in C:
[04:29] <aboleth> i did think fsck was involved
[04:30] <aboleth> i forgot that you didn't mount the disks to use it
[04:30] <_Beast> look what if the world depended on this
[04:30] <Raikia> If your install is in C:, then increasing the size will decrease the amount you can use in C
[04:30] <al_nz1> how do i check mt version?
[04:30] <Raikia> you cannot spread it to another hdd
[04:30] <al_nz1> mt=my
[04:30] <Raikia> al_nz1: your ubuntu version?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> al_nz1: lsb_release -c
[04:30] <Raikia> uname -a
[04:31] <aboleth> hmm it appears that for all of them when i try to run fsck i get this:
[04:31] <aboleth> fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda5
[04:31] <sl33k__> Raikia: if i want it to dspread it to another hdd?
[04:31] <aboleth> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[04:31] <al_nz1> 9.04
[04:31] <shelll> aboleth: Ah. So as long as those partitions aren't mounted in your live environment, you should be able to do fsck -p /dev/sda1 ... the -p means automatic repair (no questions).
[04:31] <sl33k__> *spread*
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> !eol | al_nz1
[04:31] <Raikia> sl33k__: I don't believe you can
[04:31] <shelll> aboleth: That is only for a partition if it is using ext2 filesystem.
[04:31] <gogeta1> Raikia: you tyou can its called lvm
[04:31] <shelll> aboleth: fsck without the .ext2 should work
[04:31] <aboleth> oh also I have had this PC for probably over 5 years so it might have something to do with it
[04:31] <ChogyDan> al_nz1: getting hassled by eol messages?
[04:32] <gogeta1> Raikia: to make all hdds act as one
[04:32] <al_nz1> ChogyDan: yer
[04:32] <aboleth> shelll: I think the drive is ext3 or ext4, how do I run it without the .ext2?
[04:32] <al_nz1> going to progressively go to 10
[04:32] <ChogyDan> al_nz1: I think it all depends on what you are trying to save
[04:32] <Raikia> gogeta1: yes: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[04:32] <shelll> aboleth: fsck -p /dev/sda1
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> aboleth: the partition is ext3 or 4. disks need partitions to be formatted.
[04:32] <nathanny> alguem que fale portugues pode me ajudar?
[04:33] <nathanny> rs
[04:33] <r3sno> !pg
[04:33] <izinucs> !pr | nathanny
[04:33] <aboleth> shelll: I just tried what you said and I got the same error again
[04:33] <nathanny> !pr
[04:33] <r3sno> !es
[04:33] <gogeta1> Raikia: wrong lvm2 it lets you combine hdds into 1 large fs
[04:33] <r3sno> not a real fit but
[04:33] <nathanny> !pr nao entendi
[04:34] <nathanny> !pr boot error
[04:34] <r3sno> nathanny: hablas solo portugues?
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> r3sno: portugues != spanish dude
[04:34] <gogeta1> Raikia: us 4gb ssd uses use it to span on to are ssd cards
[04:34] <nathanny> My english is very very bad
[04:34] <r3sno> ActionParsnip: yes i know, i dont know the quick tip thing
[04:34] <gogeta1> sd
[04:34] <Raikia> gogeta1: ah
[04:34] <A_New_Server> Are there any games that are like the Final Fantasy's for GBA?
[04:35] <r3sno> ActionParsnip: is there a portuges chat?
[04:35] <nathanny> My cd-rom kill (smiles)... I get HD the this notebook and install in other... install ubuntu and return for first notebook...
[04:35] <shelll> aboleth: try fsck -f on a partition that is corrupt (i think i was /dev/sda5)
[04:35] <r3sno> nathanny: se você pode falar espanhol há um espanhol chat
[04:35] <aboleth> shelll: all of them seem to be corrupt
[04:36] <nathanny> não sei espanhol =\
[04:36] <aboleth> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sda
[04:36] <aboleth> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[04:36] <aboleth> e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
[04:36] <aboleth> fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda
[04:36] <maco> !pt | nathanny
[04:36] <FloodBot4> aboleth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:36] <aboleth> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[04:36] <nathanny> ok
[04:36] <gogeta1> sl33k__: anyways yes you can make 2 hdds 1 large fs if you whant
[04:36] <snarkster> is there a software switch for laptops with no actually physical switch
[04:36] <shelll> aboleth: you'll need to specify the partition number .. so fsck -f /dev/sda1
[04:36] <snarkster> network switch.. sheesh, i need to goto bed
[04:36] <shelll> and then work your way up to the last partition
[04:36] <gogeta1> sl33k__: but only the alt install has that option included
[04:37] <r3sno> thanks maco. i didn know where to find that thing
[04:37] <izinucs> snarkster: you want to turn off the network?
[04:37] <snarkster> no turn it on.
[04:37] <aboleth> shelll: hmm i found something a bit more interesting for sda2
[04:37] <sl33k__> gogetal: alt install?
[04:37] <r3sno> ive got my wifi setup and configured. but on reboot its resets and i have to do it again. should i use a cron to set it up at reboot?
[04:37] <izinucs> snarkster: ifup ..
[04:37] <gogeta1> sl33k__: yea the text installer the live cd does not include lvm
[04:37] <snarkster> ive got a thinkpad with no physical switch but no network
[04:37] <snarkster> ok thanx
[04:37] <aboleth> shelll: http://pastebin.com/JxEPB6yy
[04:37] <shelll> aboleth: Hmm. What happened. Did sda1 fsck successfully?
[04:38] <shelll> aboleth: Okay. Checking.
[04:38] <izinucs> snarkster: wireless?
[04:38] <sl33k__> gogetal: wubi installed mine?
[04:38] <aboleth> shelll: no that one got the same error as earlier
[04:38] <snarkster> yes
[04:38] <gogeta1> sl33k__: oh then you need what he said
[04:38] <snarkster> it detects the network but will not connect.. strange
[04:38] <gogeta1> sl33k__: to convert it over
[04:38] <aboleth> you know i'm a bit surprised how much i like the new font, since i'm on a 10.10 livecd right now
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> r3sno: what step/s do you need to take?
[04:38] <izinucs> snarkster: there should be an icon up by the clock for the network.. tic mark for on or off.. and for setting up wireless.. depending on your chipset.
[04:39] <gogeta1> sl33k__: but at this time the program does not work on lucid
[04:39] <shelll> aboleth: Hmm can you paste df -Th please.
[04:39] <snarkster> i see the icon
[04:39] <snarkster> it shows the network names but will not connect to the network
[04:39] <sl33k__> gogetal: he said to give parameter /home which is in current fs, but i want to include other fs?
[04:39] <snarkster> thought it was off in some degree
[04:39] <sl33k__> so if i put in?
[04:39] <izinucs> snarkster: left click,,,, right click.. play there.
[04:40] <snarkster> thank you
[04:40] <aboleth> shelll: http://pastebin.com/udnRzMjQ
[04:40] <lixinfish> hello, anyone tested the performance of ATI Catalyst™ 10.11 under ubuntu?
[04:40] <r3sno> ActionParsnip: i am using a broadcom chip. so i have to issue a modprobe, and insmod command. then iwlist for connecting to my router and then dhclient
[04:40] <gogeta1> sl33k__: lets see if i can find a guide im shure its been done without a fancy gui
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> r3sno: then make a script to do what you need and have it be ran in /etc/rc.local   this will be ran as root so omit any sudo
[04:41] <shelll> aboleth: e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sda2
[04:41] <snarkster> how do i get ATI catalyst gui?? is that the same thing as fglx?
[04:41] <r3sno> ActionParsnip: ok thanks..
[04:42] <_Beast> smb help
[04:42] <lea123> Just to check if I were to install Unity would all my other applications such as empathy, vuse be rendered useless ? I tried installing UNITY through the software services and i got a white screen which just froze..
[04:42] <Raikia> snarkster: yes, that is fglrx
[04:42] <aboleth> shelll: http://pastebin.com/Q9wbx0ju
[04:42] <snarkster> everytime i install that, i lose everything
[04:43] <linuxn00b> Hey everyone. I need some help. My Ubuntu Software Center isn't working and I'm also getting a linux mint splash boot screen/login...
[04:43] <gogeta1> sl33k__: of course easy way just install new heh
[04:43] <linuxn00b> And I'm aware I'm running in Ubuntu
[04:44] <gogeta1> sl33k__: rell that is the easy way then mirgrate any data you whant over to the fresh install
[04:44] <gogeta1> relly
[04:44] <sl33k__> gogetal: again install?
[04:44] <shelll> aboleth: I wonder why it keeps trying to fsck /dev/sda2 as if it were an ext2 file system, hmmm. So sda1 went fine? If so, try to fsck -f /dev/sda3 (next partition)
[04:44] <sl33k__> 700 mb download n i am on 512k
[04:44] <gogeta1> sl33k__: well you whant to go nativ install rite
[04:45] <shelll> aboleth: Maybe /dev/sda2 is swap?
[04:45] <Luija1006> is there a native program for ubuntu that emulates a webcam?
[04:45] <aboleth> shelll: sda1 didn't go fine, it gave the same error as earlier
[04:45] <shelll> Okay.
[04:45] <sl33k__> gogetal: you mean wubi ?
[04:45] <gogeta1> sl33k__: ok dont knoe what you whant
[04:45] <aboleth> shelll: http://pastebin.com/L7nh1xmw
[04:46] <linuxn00b> so there's nothing I can do...? Anyone?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> Luija1006: how would you emulate a webcam, you need a camera to look at you / whatever. how would it work?
[04:46] <Luija1006> i mean
[04:46] <Luija1006> a program that you select part of your screen, or a picture or a video
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> linuxn00b: can you give the output of: lsb_release -c
[04:46] <gogeta1> sl33k__: so you whant to rezise you ubi image?
[04:46] <gogeta1> wubi
[04:46] <Luija1006> and then you select the virtual camara to act like a webcam
[04:46] <aboleth> Luija1006: skype can do that
[04:47] <linuxn00b> ActionParsnip: How do I do that?
[04:47] <kittkatt1> Hello, I was wondering if anyone out there is using a PCE-N13 wireless card + 10.10 Merkeet?  I have spent 2 days trying to get it to work and its driving me nuts
[04:47] <sl33k__> gogetal: ya
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> linuxn00b: it's a terminal command
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> kittkatt1: if you run: sudo lshw -C network   you can see the chip, you can find guides based on that
[04:48] <linuxn00b> ActionParsnip: Codename - Isadora
[04:49] <gogeta1> sl33k__: looks like its done easy enough
[04:49] <maran> hello
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> linuxn00b: mint isnt supported here
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> hi maran
[04:49] <maran> hi
[04:49] <sl33k__> gogetal: huh
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> !mint | linuxn00b
[04:50] <shelll> aboleth: e2fsck -c will do a bad blocks test. If this works, there will be some questions where you'll answer 'yes' to.
[04:50] <maran> may i speak chinese?
[04:50] <linuxn00b> ActionParsnip: Blach >.< I'm confused I didn't know I fully installed mint... :/
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> !ch | maran
[04:50] <gogeta1> sl33k__: i dont think you can resize wubi just add
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> linuxn00b: yep, you're running mint. They have their own channel on a different network
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> !cn | maran
[04:51] <aboleth> shelll: i'm assuming i do that for each drive/partition?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: thanks
[04:51] <ChogyDan> linuxn00b: have you tried running sudo apt-get install -f?
[04:51] <maran> ok
[04:51] <maran> thanks
[04:51] <snakesqzns> Hi.  My ubuntu 10.10 64-bit system is having stuttering opengl issues.  See video here around 0:04-0:06: http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8054/adf.mp4
[04:51] <gogeta1> sl33k__: genrely only real install can we risize the fs and so on
[04:52] <shelll> aboleth: correct.
[04:52] <linuxn00b> ChogyDan: Nothing happens :/
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> snakesqzns: looks fine to me
[04:52] <Raikia> Yeah, snakesqzns, looks fine to me
[04:52] <aboleth> shelll: http://pastebin.com/Vi1QGiqC
[04:52] <ChogyDan> linuxn00b: do you get an error when software center doesn't work?
[04:52] <sl33k__> gogetal: ok then will it add other fs?
[04:53] <linuxn00b> But just out of curiousity, any way I can roll back to ubuntu from mint, or should I ask somewhere else
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: user is running mint which isnt supported here
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> linuxn00b: yes, via a clean install
[04:53] <linuxn00b> ChogyDan: No, I click it, and says it's starting up for a few seconds, but nothing happens
[04:53] <ChogyDan> ActionParsnip: but didn't they merge repos with ubuntu proper?
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[04:54] <MACscr> crap, anyone know where firefox might store passwords? Im trying to restore my passwords from a system backup
[04:54] <red2kic> MACscr: ~/.mozilla
[04:54] <linuxn00b> ActionParsnip: How do I start a clean install?
[04:55] <MACscr> red2kic: yeah, i have that folder, but cant seem to locate the passwords
[04:55] <snakesqzns> ActionParsnip, Raikia look harder, it should be smooth
[04:55] <ghindo> What is the ettiquite for nominating a bug for a future release?
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> linuxn00b: grab an Ubuntu CD and boot to it, wipe out the Mint install (make sure you r backups of what you need are sufficiently recent) then install ubuntu
[04:56] <red2kic> MACscr: You want to ask in Firefox IRC channel. I usually move over ~/.mozilla -- as it save everything. Be it passwords, extensions, or whatever.
[04:56] <ChogyDan> ghindo: there is a button on launchpad, but you could also find someone can fix the bug, and make sure they are aware of it
[04:57] <Ronaldlo> I have a iMac G4. I installed the alternate community port for ppc. Yet at the boot screen it never loads past two dots.
[04:57] <Ronaldlo> Any thing I could do?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: does your memory test as healthy?
[04:57] <linuxn00b> ActionParsnip: Ahh damn. My ubuntu install disk is at a friend's house. I'll just wait for that. Thank you.
[04:57] <ghindo> ChogyDan: I see the button, but I'm kind of unclear as to what nominating a bug entails.  Does it just mean "please fix this bug before x release?"
[04:58] <Ronaldlo> How do I test?
[04:58] <aurilliance> My netbook with ubuntu 10.10 suspends every time I pull the AC cord out. Anyone know how to fix this?
[04:59] <shelll> aboleth: hmm so its always complaining about superblocks not being read. It looks like the superblock will need to be specified with fsck.ext3 -b <superblock #> /dev/sd*  ... so I'm not sure if this will work in the live-cd, but you can try: /sbin/mkfs.ext2 /tmp/foo ... it will then tell you /tmp/foo is not a block special device would you like to proceed, you'll say 'y' ... this will tell you the number of 'blocks' ... let me know if thi
[04:59] <ChogyDan> ghindo: it gets added to the release someone's queue,  if it looks like the bug can be fixed, then then they will make sure to include it in the release.  You really need to have someone who can fix the bug connected before nomination will mean much, AFAIK
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> snakesqzns: if you are nitpicking a tiny handful of frames then maybe but theres no issue there dude
[04:59] <aboleth> shelll: what is the exact command i put in?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: hold shift at boot, select memtest
[05:01] <Ronaldlo> ok :)
[05:01] <ghindo> ChogyDan: Ah, thank you!
[05:02] <Jordan_U> pdg1: The 24 meg partition is likely the windows "system" partition. It's needed for windows to boot, so do *not* delete it.
[05:02] <jags> Is there a way to get the version of empathy in 10.10 in 10.4, empathy in 10.10 has linked contacts, I found a ppa for 10.4 but it doesn't have the linked contacts feature of 10.10, I'd rather not build it from source
[05:02] <Gorroth> yes!  kubuntu made it really easy to get tethering working through my n900
[05:02] <Gorroth> via usb
[05:02] <Gorroth> though, i'm not sure where the network manager saved those settings, as i don't see them in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | jags
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> jags: someone may have a lucid ppa with the same version
[05:04] <alpine101> whats up with servers --- cannot fetch 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' or is it my software sources
[05:04] <jags> I can build from source, should I uninstall from synaptic, and then install the source to my home directory?, I'm not sure where to put it, I always have synaptic manage my software
[05:04] <snakesqzns> ActionParsnip, i'm not nitpicking a tiny handful of frames.  The point is it's choppy, not that a few frames were lost (it's running at 4000 fps).  If you don't understand you don't have to reply, thanks.
[05:04] <ToeBee> anyone know how I can force bluetooth to rescan my phone for services? After I enable bluetooth DUN in pdanet, my laptop doesn't seem to detect it
[05:04] <alpine101> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:04] <shelll> aboleth: I just remembered you can't mount any of those partitions ... because you could run 'df' and it will tell you the total number of blocks for each partition.
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> snakesqzns: you asked a broadcast channel so i replied, if you ask and dont like the answer thats your issue
[05:04] <aboleth> shelll: so what do i do?
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:05] <shelll> aboleth: when you boot Ubuntu (not live-cd) does it bring you to a command prompt?
[05:05] <snakesqzns> ActionParsnip, I don't dislike your answer, that doesn't mean you know what you're talking about
[05:05] <linus_> ok
[05:05] <alpine101> ok ---- i know what it is -- install updates then install restricted extras
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> alpine101: do you have multiverse repository enabled?
[05:05] <alpine101> yep
[05:05] <aboleth> shelll: i can't even boot it
[05:06] <alpine101> it'll probably be ok parsnip -- always do this -- updates first ok thanks
[05:07] <shelll> aboleth: become root with su and try dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 | grep superblock
[05:08] <gogeta1> shelll: who blew up there fs
[05:08] <aboleth> gogeta1: i did
[05:08] <shelll> gogeta1: hehe
[05:08] <aboleth> shelll: http://pastebin.com/j8dMtzmB
[05:08] <gogeta1> aboleth: hate to say it but iv only seen ex3/4 fail if the hdd itsself is
[05:09] <aboleth> gogeta1: i've been wondering if it's that
[05:09] <ish_> hey guys i had a question about X11 forwarding. I am doing it via ssh and it is sooooo slow. Can you guys recommend a faster solution?
[05:09] <shelll> aboleth: you did mention the drives were over 5 years old?
[05:09] <aboleth> gogeta1: it seems to work well enough for the emergency grub thing to come on
[05:09] <aboleth> shelll: yeah i did
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> ish_: what activities are you performing on the remote OS?
[05:09] <gogeta1> aboleth: yea ccruppting data graduly probly
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> shelll: you become root with: sudo -i   in ubuntu
[05:10] <ish_> action i am writing guis and testing them on the remote OS
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> ish_: tab complete nicks dude ;)
[05:10] <aboleth> gogeta1: if i can somehow get this to work, should i copy everything to another hd?
[05:10] <shelll> aboleth: if you can boot into single user mode you can try and hopefully find the superblock number for each partition
[05:10] <ish_> ActionParsnip, oh thanks dude ive been trying to figure that out
[05:10] <aboleth> shelll: how would i do that?
[05:10] <ish_> ActionParsnip, does this appear red to you?
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> ish_: i see, hmm. could try freenx over ssh tunnel (unless you only acces over LAN) then freenx is fine)
[05:11] <gogeta1> aboleth: you can try doing sudo touch /forcefsck reboot and hope it can recover
[05:11] <shelll> gogeta1: the problem is that fsck won't even let aboleth enter in a superblock number like e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sda1
[05:11] <shelll> ActionParsnip: Okay.
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> ish_: i use irssi but yes it's highlighted now :)
[05:11] <ish_> ActionParsnip, yay. ok let me check out nxserver.
[05:11] <Ronaldlo> @ActionParsnip, not much happened when I held shift. yaboot, the to the ubuntu 10.10 splash screen, then nothing. When I held shift, it had a black screen for a long time.
[05:12] <gogeta1> aboleth: sudo touch /forcefsck
[05:12] <aboleth> gogeta1: i don't get any output
[05:12] <gogeta1> aboleth: tells it to run fsck at reboot
[05:12] <aboleth> gogeta1: i'm on a livecd
[05:13] <gogeta1> aboleth: being it cant run on a disk in use
[05:13] <gogeta1> aboleth: well if you can get to recovery on the install do that
[05:13] <En> hallo
[05:13] <aboleth> gogeta1: i can't even get that, all i get is this grub emergency mode
[05:14] <gogeta1> aboleth: lol you try sudo super-grub2
[05:14] <gogeta1> uups
[05:14] <shelll> I'm looking at grub2's emergency mode and it is rather confusing. I only know how to do this with grub-legacy.
[05:14] <aboleth> gogeta1: i DID get that earlier, before i went into recovery mode and it ran some stuff, then i couldn't get back in
[05:14] <En> i can't set papper size on epson lx300+
[05:14] <gogeta1> aboleth: sudo update-grub2
[05:14] <gogeta1> aboleth: maybe grub just whent crazy
[05:14] <gogeta1> its good for that
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> shelll: hold shift at boot, it will show the usual grub menu
[05:15] <Xenocide21> ok its official, ## linux sucks. totally not the right channel to ask but whats a good distro with a full GUI to run on a 233MHz pentium 2 with 192 MB ram
[05:15] <dooglus> all my upload bandwidth is being used up.  iftop shows it's all going to a site at my ISP.  can I find out why it's happening?
[05:15] <ninjai> is there any gui program i can use to verify a pgp signature?
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> Xenocide21: puppy, xpud, tinycore, damnsmall
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> Xenocide21: they are all linux distros though
[05:16] <Xenocide21> excellent
[05:16] <Xenocide21> yeah well. they arent a very helpful group :P
[05:16] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[05:16] <Luija1006> people is there a native program for ubuntu like manycam? its a program that emulates a webcam
[05:16] <Xenocide21> what GUI do those use? im lookin for similar to xfce
[05:16] <dooglus> Luija1006: I wish
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> Xenocide21: who aren't?
[05:16] <Luija1006> :(
[05:16] <ysk> can anybody tell me how could i install compiz 0.86? bcoz compiz 0.9 is not working properly on my system
[05:17] <Xenocide21> the people of ##linux
[05:17] <Raikia> yay supertux2
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Xenocide21: most use openbox & fluxbox, they are super light (lighter than xfce in some cases)
[05:17] <aboleth> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/8fTrVkwr there seems to be more than that, but that's all that fit on the terminal
[05:17] <Xenocide21> ahh excellent
[05:17] <gogeta1> Xenocide21: puppy
[05:17] <aboleth> Luija1006: skype seems to do that
[05:17] <Xenocide21> i like the fluxbox
[05:17] <midhun> pls help
[05:18] <shelll> aboleth: dmesg > output  ... will get it all
[05:18] <midhun> having an error grub rescue
[05:18] <midhun> help
[05:18] <midhun> ny one
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> ysk: find debs or a repowith the old version on and pull down the debs, remove compiz you have now, install old compiz then pin the version. I dont recommend you do this at all, its a big hack
[05:18] <gogeta1> Xenocide21: puppy linux would be good small fast
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Xenocide21: LUbuntu should run on it just dandy :)
[05:19] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Almost certainly a hardware problem with the drive.
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Xenocide21: if you like the Ubuntu vibe that is
[05:19] <gogeta1> ActionParsnip: on a 233mhz barly
[05:19] <Xenocide21> i feel terrible using up a whole CD for such a small iso though :( and no USB boot options
[05:19] <gogeta1> ActionParsnip: he should check lucidpuppy its uses lucid packages
[05:19] <Xenocide21> i tried xubuntu
[05:19] <Xenocide21> it ran like shit
[05:19] <Xenocide21> pardon my french
[05:19] <Jordan_U> aboleth: How important is the data on the drive, and do you have another hard drive large enough to hold a complete image of the drive?
[05:19] <gogeta1> Xenocide21: give lucidpuppy a go
[05:20] <Xenocide21> alrighty
[05:20] <gogeta1> Xenocide21: its built for weak machines
[05:20] <aboleth> Jordan_U: it's pretty important to me, it has several things i really don't want to lose, and i might be able to store most of it on an usb hd on my desk
[05:20] <Xenocide21> yeah windows would just be atrocious on 233
[05:20] <aboleth> Jordan_U: the other hd is fairly old too though... and i don't really have any money for a new one
[05:20] <Xenocide21> it has few uses as it is on a fast computer
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> gogeta1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat
[05:20] <Xenocide21> let alone a slow one
[05:20] <aboleth> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/8iekiNdL
[05:20] <Xenocide21> thanks guys
[05:21] <Ronaldlo> ActionParsnip: not much happened when I held shift. yaboot, the to the ubuntu 10.10 splash screen, then nothing. When I held shift, it had a black screen for a long time.
[05:21] <h00k> Xenocide21: yeah, Please watch the language here
[05:21] <gogeta1> Xenocide21: yea ther lubuntu to it uses lxde and built light
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: its before the splash shows
[05:21] <Ronaldlo> Hm, I'll try again
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> gogeta1: but yeah its gonna be poor but lxde is light
[05:22] <shelll> aboleth: Oh dear.  Do you have backups of your data?
[05:22] <aboleth> shelll: not really
[05:22] <monokrome> Hey. I am trying to watch a movie in VMPlayer, but Ubuntu's screensaver keeps causing it get freeze the screen
[05:22] <monokrome> Does anyone know how to disable the screensaver?!
[05:22] <gogeta1> Xenocide21: http://puppylinuxnews.org/
[05:22] <aurilliance> monokrome, right click on desktop
[05:22] <monokrome> gnome-screensaver-preferences didn't do much
[05:22] <gogeta1> Xenocide21: second one you will see lucid
[05:22] <aurilliance> or go into appearance in the menu
[05:22] <aurilliance> My netbook with ubuntu 10.10 suspends every time I pull the AC cord out. Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:22] <monokrome> aurilliance: I don't use gnome either
[05:22] <aurilliance> monokrome, can't help you then sorry ;)
[05:23] <monokrome> Thanks anyway
[05:23] <Jordan_U> aboleth: First, take any really important data from your working drive and back it up to somewhere like Ubuntu one. You really don't want to depend on a single drive for important data.
[05:23] <midhun> grub rescue probs
[05:23] <midhun> help
[05:23] <midhun> ny one
[05:23] <Ronaldlo> woah, it got to 3 dots when loading now...
[05:23] <midhun> desprate
[05:23] <Jordan_U> !details | midhun
[05:23] <aboleth> Jordan_U: how could i do that now?
[05:24] <gogeta1> aboleth: guess regenrating your gun menu didnt work?
[05:24] <Jordan_U> aboleth: I meant with the working drive.
[05:24] <gogeta1> grub
[05:24] <midhun> i had ubuntu 9.10
[05:24] <midhun> i updated it
[05:24] <midhun> to 10.4
[05:24] <aboleth> Jordan_U: don't you have to pay for ubuntu one?
[05:24] <Jordan_U> !enter | midhun
[05:24] <aboleth> i have absolutely no money
[05:24] <gogeta1> aboleth: no the offer a free version
[05:24] <aboleth> though i'd consider getting a job for this
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> midhun: did you upgrade to Lucid first?
[05:25] <gogeta1> they
[05:25] <aboleth> hmm maybe i'll try that sometime
[05:25] <Jordan_U> aboleth: You get 2 GiB free. Not much, but enough for what tend to be the most important files (documents).
[05:26] <gogeta1> aboleth: or pack em up and send to something like a drive
[05:26] <gogeta1> adrive
[05:26] <midhun> i was using ubuntu 9.10 i've upgraded it to 10.4. whn i restated after the upgrade the grub rescue probs started
[05:26] <aboleth> gogeta1: adrive?
[05:26] <gogeta1> aboleth: not of sites offer online storage
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> midhun: boot to liveCD and reinstall grub
[05:27] <miststlkr> I've got a regex question if here is anyone bold enough to flex their bash-fu for me?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> aboleth: As for recovering the data from your failing hard drive I would recommend using "ddrescue" from the "gddrescue" pacakge (not "dd_rescue" from the "ddrescue" pacakge).
[05:27] <gogeta1> aboleth: http://www.adrive.com/
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> miststlkr: have you asked in #bash ?
[05:27] <aboleth> Jordan_U: how could i do that from a livecd?
[05:27] <administrator_> hey wheres a good place to find games
[05:27] <administrator_> for xunbuntu
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> !games | administrator_
[05:28] <miststlkr> ActionParsnip; was unaware of the room, heading there now.  Thanks
[05:28] <gogeta1> aboleth: there fee basic is 50gb
[05:28] <gogeta1> free
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> administrator_: i personally recommend Urban Terror which plays like counterstrike, and penumbra which is a paid game but the demo is free and awesome
[05:28] <aboleth> gogeta1: oh wow, all for free, that sounds very helpful
[05:28] <aboleth> gogeta1: i almost definitely will use that now
[05:28] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Either install gddrescue from Applications > Ubuntu Software Center or run "sudo software-properties -e universe; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gddrescue"
[05:29] <gogeta1> aboleth: well ubuntu 1 can auto sync
[05:29] <Ronaldlo> Urban Terror is fun, as well as AssaultCube :)
[05:29] <aboleth> tremulous is a favorite game of mine
[05:29] <gogeta1> aboleth: but if you need more then 2 gb pay or use a alt
[05:29] <aboleth> i like dungeon crawl and battle for wesnoth a lot too