[00:00] <ja-barr> forever as in....20 minutes?
[00:00] <Treaver> Yes, it usually doesn't take that long? :O
[00:01] <tethtibis> are you using the installer partitioner, or gparted before you started the install?
[00:02] <tethtibis> if it's the installer, 20 minutes is way too long, there may be an issue with your hard drive, if it's gparted, did you do some funky footwork with the partition setup you chose, or was it just basic?
[00:02] <Treaver> The installer is going slow it's like not responding to anything
[00:03] <PeanutPower> anyone here familar with ejabberd ?
[00:03] <tethtibis> if it's the installer, and you've tried multiple times, and it's still hanging, boot up a live cd or USB of the desktop version, use the disk utility and check the hard drive status, (smart data)
[00:03] <blackshirt> treaver, switch to other console and look some messages maybe help you
[00:03] <tethtibis> how much Ram is in the machine you are installing it on?
[00:04] <tethtibis> Sorry, PeanutPower, never heard of it.
[00:05] <tethtibis> Treaver, how much RAM is in the machine you are installing to, also, have you done the memory check to make sure it's good?
[00:06] <Treaver> 6GB Ram, 750GB Harddrive
[00:06] <Treaver> I am just gonna install over Windows
[00:06] <blackshirt> thats big enough
[00:06] <tethtibis> yeah, the amount of ram is certainly not the issue. :O/
[00:07] <escott> Treaver, under no circumstances interrupt a resize
[00:07] <Wug> ^
[00:07] <Wug> leave it till tomorrow morning
[00:07] <Treaver> Too late lol
[00:07] <tethtibis> I'd check the ram to make sure it's not throwing out bad bits, and check the harddrive or raid using the disk utility (smart data). it will tell you how healthy the drive is.
[00:07] <Treaver> I already stopped it I just gonna install 12.10 over it
[00:08] <blackshirt> treaver, using wubi
[00:08] <blackshirt> ?
[00:08] <escott> Treaver, whatever you were resizing is probably destroyed
[00:08] <Ben64> Treaver: 12.10 isn't final yet
[00:09] <devslash> i don't know if my hardware or 12.10 is the issue but i can't install it. its getting stuck at the same point every time
[00:11] <Smackbook1> i happen to have 2 wireless routers with some overlap as well as two wireless cards on my pc, would it be unheardof to to configure ubuntu to use both for parralellism and reliability?
[00:13] <xangua> !12.10 | devslash
[00:13] <tethtibis> nope, not unheard of at all. I use an internal wireless and a usb wireless on my laptop and bridge the connections together.
[00:13] <devslash> duly noted
[00:13] <genewitch> Smackbook1: er, name them the same thing with the same credentials on the same channel... then let networkmanager switch when it needs to
[00:14] <ubuntux> is there an easy way to install openoffice instead of libreoffice?
[00:15] <ubuntux> ±
[00:15] <karneisada> add this ppa sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/office
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> ubuntux, Both share files, so you have to fully purge one to install the other, and to be honest libreoffice is more functinal I believe,
[00:15] <Smackbook1> genewitch: i was wondering if there was a way to send packets on both to double the throughput rate
[00:15] <agony> hi
[00:15] <zykotick9> Smackbook1: personally, i doubt you can have 2 simultanious "internet" connections, as an agragated feed - at the desktop level.  but best of luck.  i'm probably wrong...
[00:16] <karneisada> I just use libreoffice personally
[00:18] <escott> Smackbook1, you could try bonding them but the slowdown is going to be your ISP<->router connection unless you have fiber into your house
[00:21] <zykotick9> escott: i think wireless from router->device is a more likely slowdown myself.
[00:22] <Smackbook> escott: most of my traffic is media streaming
[00:22] <Smackbook> locally i mean
[00:23] <genewitch> Smackbook1: you want to freaking bond wifi links?
[00:23] <genewitch> what are you, MCI?
[00:24] <Smackbook> genewitch: heh iono
[00:25] <Smackbook> i will look into this
[00:25] <TJ-> Smackbook: you can bond 2 wifi interfaces
[00:28] <TJ-> Smackbook: see for starters https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[00:28] <Smackbook> great thanks
[00:28] <zykotick9> TJ-: thanks for the link
[00:28] <frenco92> galactik football italiano
[00:29] <TJ-> I've used it with long-range Wifi connections (> 4 miles)
[00:30] <escott> TJ-, how do you build the antenna for that
[00:31] <Codenomics> howdy
[00:31] <TJ-> escott: with great accuracy... different polarisations
[00:31] <Codenomics> got some questions... I used the Ubuntu Mini CD to install Ubuntu and just booted into it...
[00:32] <Codenomics> all I get is a CLI. I selected LXDE to be installed, but it looks like that didnt happen
[00:32] <zykotick9> Codenomics: try "startx"
[00:32] <TJ-> escott: yagi 'cantenna' and dish ... everything is about directing all the ERP to the receiver
[00:32] <Codenomics> if it did, it should boot and go into LXDE correct?
[00:32] <blackshirt> thats why called mini
[00:32] <Codenomics> zykotick9: tried that, command not found
[00:32] <TJ-> escott: and a big dish receiver to collect as much signal as possible
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> Codenomics, with mini you do a basic install the desktop from the cli.
[00:33] <zykotick9> Codenomics: then see if xorg is installed.  did you install a DM of some sort (lightdm is ubuntu's default these days)?
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> +1 on that
[00:33] <Codenomics> um...I chose the basic server install and LXDE but nothing else
[00:34] <Codenomics> Xorg is installe
[00:34] <Codenomics> d
[00:34] <zykotick9> Codenomics: startx should be a command then...
[00:34] <zykotick9> Codenomics: start<TAB><TAB> bring anything up?
[00:34] <Codenomics> zykotick9: one would think
[00:35] <Codenomics> that shows start, startpar, and start-stop-daemon
[00:35] <zykotick9> Codenomics: are you sure xorg is installed?  "apt-cache policy xorg"
[00:36] <TJ-> If LXDE was installed it ought to have gdm (or lightdm?) ?
[00:36] <Codenomics> unable to locate package Xorg
[00:36] <zykotick9> TJ-: depends on what the poster means by TJ-
[00:36] <Codenomics> oh wait...
[00:37] <zykotick9> TJ-: sorry "means by xfce"
[00:37] <Codenomics> I did Xorg, and not xorg...it says xorg is not installed
[00:37] <zykotick9> Codenomics: ding
[00:37] <TJ-> Codenomics: "apt-cache policy lxde"
[00:37] <Kelebra> apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[00:37] <Codenomics> whoa too much... hold on lol
[00:38] <Kelebra> gnome-core xfonts-base
[00:38] <zykotick9> Kelebra: gnome-core?!?
[00:38] <Codenomics> no lxde either
[00:38] <TJ-> Codenomics: "sudo apt-get install lxde"
[00:38] <Codenomics> yup, on it now
[00:38] <Kelebra> apt-get install gnome-desktop-data
[00:39] <Kelebra> apt-get install xorg
[00:39] <zykotick9> Kelebra: if one is trying to install xfce, install gnome-desktop-ANYTHING is sort counter productive...
[00:39] <Kelebra> startx
[00:39] <Kelebra> mmm sorry
[00:39] <Codenomics> is lxde any lighter than lxde?
[00:39] <Kelebra> try install xfce-desktop
[00:39] <Codenomics> havent used lxde in a good while
[00:40] <zykotick9> Kelebra: the OP wanted lxde, MY bad.
[00:40] <Codenomics> the OP just wants a GUI lol
[00:40] <Codenomics> just something nice and light with the least amount of resources being used
[00:40] <TJ-> A gooey lol ? :p
[00:40] <Codenomics> ?
[00:40] <tethtibis> Codenomics, I assume you mean "is lxde lighter than Xfce?" if so, than yes, it is, but also is missing a lot of features Xfce has.
[00:41]  * wilee-nilee laughs at the pile on of helpers
[00:41] <Codenomics> tethtibis: oooh, yeah, that is what I meant
[00:41] <tethtibis> Codenomics, try ZorinOS, it runs gnome, beutifully on less than 512 megs of ram and a 1 gig single core processor.
[00:41] <anonymous> helo
[00:42] <Codenomics> tethtibis: I am not really concerned about features considering this is going to be a media center and all I really need is to get a few basic apps running and XBMC
[00:42] <zykotick9> Codenomics: KDE uses servious resources, then Gnome, then xfce (similar to gnome2 resources), then lxde, then the windows managers - as far as resource use.
[00:42] <Codenomics> yeah... I stay far away from KDE
[00:42] <tethtibis> i think openbox uses less than lxde, but it's a pain to configure if you've never used it before.
[00:43] <zykotick9> tethtibis: any *box uses less then lxde, BUT lxde is a desktop environment, the WM are not.
[00:43] <Codenomics> I will just stick with lxde for now
[00:43] <tethtibis> Codenomics, give DSL (Damn small linux) then, it uses rediculously low resources.
[00:43] <zykotick9> tethtibis: for a media box, that would be silly.
[00:44] <Kelebra> see ya soon
[00:44] <tethtibis> zykotick9 you have a good point. :OP
[00:44] <Kelebra> I have to go ...
[00:44] <lizzin> what's a good free app for creating a playable dvd from an mp4/mkv file?
[00:44] <Codenomics> tethtibis: it isnt *that* big of a deal, I have a dual core with 2GB or RAM so I dont need insane amount of minimalism lol
[00:44] <Kelebra> Is nice to see you.
[00:44] <tethtibis> lizzin brasero works just fine.
[00:45] <lizzin> tethtibis: ok, thank you
[00:45] <karneisada> code: i'm using xubuntu on a netbook and it runs great
[00:45] <Codenomics> wish I could just run this stuff from CLI, things run so much smoother
[00:45] <Codenomics> I am not going to go and download/burn a new iso just for this lol
[00:46] <Codenomics> again, I have a decent machine so it isnt all that big of a deal
[00:46] <zykotick9> Codenomics: 2GB seems small to me (personally) i only have 4GB ;)  but i wish i had much more.  my netbook only has a 1 GB though, and i'm always amazed what it can do ;)  i run VERY minimal GUI's on both systems...
[00:47] <Codenomics> 2GB isnt anything impressive granted... but it works for what I need
[00:47] <Codenomics> downloading and running a media center with FTP functionality
[00:50] <Codenomics> ok lxde is installed
[00:50] <zykotick9> Codenomics: fyi, for media centers i use both mythtv (for recording my tv) and freevo for playback of movies/tv/music on my htpc (but that's only cause of stability!)  xbmc has hella feature-set, but i had way too many crashes :(  i'm not a fan of myth's music features, but it's recording tv is amazing.  fyi, i use handbrake to encode all my shows to m4v/mp4.  good luck with your htpc install.
[00:51] <dr_willis> Openelec and GeexBOX are also nice Media Center Specific Small Sized Disrtos
[00:52] <dr_willis> XBMC and Boxee are also nice. ;)
[00:54] <penguinmessiah> hai
[00:54] <penguinmessiah> i need a suggested wireless card that you can buy on tiger or new egg
[00:54] <penguinmessiah> that will plug and play
[00:55] <tethtibis> seriously, anything "netgear"
[00:55] <penguinmessiah> really?
[00:55] <tethtibis> every netgear usb wireless device I've ever touched worked out of the bok on ubuntu.
[00:55] <tethtibis> *box*
[00:55] <penguinmessiah> eek i wana use pci
[00:56] <tethtibis> hrm, no idea then, lol sorry, but I'd still try a netgear or "logitech" if they make such a thing.
[00:56] <penguinmessiah> linksey?
[00:57] <randomDude1> for some  reason, the width of my pidgin buddy list is quite large and won't allow me to resize it to a smaller width.
[00:57] <tethtibis> linksys is hit and miss, honestly in my opinion. one sec, let me find you a hardware list.
[00:57] <escott> penguinmessiah, best to look at the chipset itself. i've always like atheros
[00:57] <penguinmessiah> ah okay darn chipsets
[00:57] <Codenomics> zykotick9: I use XBMC. I really dig it so far
[00:58] <penguinmessiah> codenomics, i prefer boxee
[00:58] <Codenomics> oh and startx is still not working
[00:58] <zykotick9> Codenomics: OH how i wish it was stable for me!  YMMV.  good luck.
[00:58] <tethtibis> penguinmessiah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:58] <Codenomics> XBMC is stable as can be for me
[00:59] <Codenomics> ok, so I am stuck and cant startx lol
[01:00] <zykotick9> Codenomics: fyi the packages xorg and lxde SHOULD give you startx (it might not, and that's funny).
[01:00] <farrioth> Hi all.  After a release upgrade from lucid to precise, I find that gnome-power-manager no longer provides a system tray icon.  Is there an alternate package (eg. for kde) which does?
[01:00] <penguinmessiah> zoorg think penguin is expensive, if i buy one i might as well go with the triband, but i only have 1 really good wifi antenna :|
[01:00] <zykotick9> Codenomics: find out what lubuntu uses as a DM and install that.
[01:02] <custom_> Codenomics,    I did an install as you did last week     xinit    was not installed by default in my case
[01:03] <zykotick9> Codenomics: based on what custom_ added, i think both of you should report a bug ;)
[01:04] <Codenomics> should I reboot and see well... if I get my computer working I just might do that lol
[01:04] <Codenomics> forgot to install xorg lol
[01:04]  * Codenomics hangs head in shame
[01:05] <nbastin> My installer is complaining that my mirror doesn't support the specified release (oneiric) - the problem is my mirror is us.archive.ubuntu.com, and it looks just fine...
[01:05] <Codenomics> been using linux for so long, I should know this stuff by now
[01:06] <Codenomics> \o/
[01:06] <Codenomics> working... thanks for the help. going to kill irssi now
[01:10] <sgtluax> any of you use ncmpcpp?
[01:10] <totido> i have it installed
[01:10] <totido> sgtluax: having problems with it?
[01:10] <sgtluax> how the hell do i add music to it
[01:11] <totido> i dont know... didnt use it much.
[01:11] <sgtluax> oh well
[01:12] <totido> i will invest some time to learn it... i wonder if someone has published a book about it ;D
[01:13] <sgtluax> every manual I find, asumes that a you're a god with the terminal
[01:13] <totido> if u r not, why do you want to use it?
[01:14] <sgtluax> just basic stuff I guess, compile from source but that's it
[01:14] <zykotick9> !manual | totido
[01:15] <totido> zykotick9, ?
[01:16] <zykotick9> totido (although you're already gone).  sorry, wrong nick.
[01:16] <nbastin> why is apt-cacher-ng such a piece of crap...
[01:17] <zykotick9> nbastin: side note, i stopped using apt-cacher-ng and switched to apt-cacher (but still have occasional issue!), BUT apt-cacher only supports on distro at a time.
[01:17] <zykotick9> s/on/one/ ;)
[01:18] <nbastin> zykotick9: bah, that doesn't really work either...maybe I should look into writing something...apt-cacher-ng seems to corrupt files a lot, and doesn't recover from failure ever
[01:18] <TJ-> sgtluax: From what I read on the man-page, ncmpcpp is a client. The music library is configured in the MPD server
[01:19] <zykotick9> nbastin: i always ran into issues where apt-cacher-ng would stop giving updates to clients...
[01:19] <nbastin> zykotick9: thanks for the advice though, I might switch to apt-cacher for the moment (maybe put them on different ports per distro?)
[01:19] <zykotick9> nbastin: fyi, they're different!  client has different port/style address!  pita they're not the same.
[01:19] <Guest44162> hello
[01:22] <TJ-> nbastin: I've been running apt-cacher-ng without issues for a year or more; what kind of issues are you getting?
[01:23] <nbastin> TJ-: mostly it serves up corrupt files, but it also gets wedged and doesn't respond to requests at all until it's restarted
[01:24] <nbastin> TJ-: we run a *lot* of apt-cacher-ng instances for VM installs, etc., and they all have these problems
[01:25] <nbastin> TJ-: and if you look around on the internet you see tons of other people with the same problems and they just fix it by blowing away the cache, which sortof defeats the point
[01:25] <gregw> hi can anybody answer some questions about a wubi install.  I want to do a fresh install (having done upgrades from about 10.04), but the first question wubi is asking is : "are you sure you want to uninstall ubuntu?"    Will this delete my /home/myuser directory?   I'm fine with /usr being totally replaced but want to avoid having to recover /home/myuser from backup.
[01:25] <zykotick9> nbastin: that's exactly what i used to do.  delete the cache and start again.
[01:29] <TJ-> nbastin: Where's the analysis of what is causing it though? Whenever I hit issues its 1) logs 2) tracing then 3) -debug packages and gdb
[01:31] <kuhwallskee> Hello! I'm having an issue when my laptop suspends or the screen blanks out, is there any way just to disable that os I can keep goin?
[01:32] <puppy_parade> why does the video glitch and then go black whenever I make my totem window above a certain size?
[01:32] <puppy_parade> This happens after my machine has been up for a while
[01:36] <puppy_parade> okay, I guess I'll have to reboot it as often as a windows machine.
[01:37] <L3top> puppy_parade: totem is a gstream player. The length of time your system is "up" should make absolutely no difference. Totem is either doing something, or it isnt. Chances are it has more to do with what is going on in the background than the time "up".
[01:38] <puppy_parade> right, but rebooting fixes it.
[01:38] <L3top> puppy_parade: I would immediately look at flash to blame.
[01:38] <puppy_parade> but, I'm not playing flash
[01:38] <L3top> yes... again... keep your machine up for a week... then close EVERYTHING else... and try.
[01:38] <puppy_parade> it's h.264 inside mkv
[01:38] <L3top> puppy_parade: if you have a web page open... in the background... chances are.. you are using flash.
[01:39] <puppy_parade> why would that interfere with playing a video?
[01:39] <L3top> This is not the forum to explain "why". It is my guess as to a cause.
[01:40] <L3top> Flash on linux is... problematic... on a number of levels
[01:40] <bobo37773> puppy_parade: Probably a compositing issue. Graphical related. Most of the weird freezing type bugs I have had in the past have been. Try a different window manager to test and see if you still have issues
[01:40] <puppy_parade> killing the browser did it.
[01:40] <puppy_parade> thanks L3top
[01:40] <L3top> tadaa
[01:41] <puppy_parade> bobo37773, is it a compiz thing?
[01:41] <bobo37773> puppy_parade: Possibly. Do you run compiz?
[01:41] <puppy_parade> unity runs on top of compiz. right?
[01:41] <L3top> flash + compiz = eternal struggle
[01:41] <L3top> yes
[01:41]  * puppy_parade sighs.
[01:42] <L3top> I know... I am with you brother.
[01:42] <bobo37773> puppy_parade: try something light like openbox and see if you still experience any freezing issues and then you will know for sure
[01:42]  * puppy_parade goes off to see what progess wayland has made.
[01:42] <zykotick9> L3top: <ot> that "f + c = e.s." was really good </ot>
[01:42] <puppy_parade> but I like unity
[01:42] <puppy_parade> =(
[01:43] <L3top> I have some issues with compiz... but they pale in comparison to my issues with adobe. Blame lies in flash.
[01:43] <L3top> esp on nvidia.
[01:44] <puppy_parade> outside their drivers?
[01:44] <puppy_parade> I am running a radeon
[01:44] <bobo37773> puppy_parade: Just to test to find out. If the problem is with flash then it may still be graphically related. Try the newer chrome builds with pepperflash and see if that helps
[01:45] <codenomics> yo
[01:45] <puppy_parade> I used to run chrome, but it was doing something wrong and I chromium fixed it, but I forgot what it was
[01:45] <puppy_parade> it might have been flash...
[01:45] <codenomics> got another issue (of my own ignorance) that I need a hand with if possible...
[01:45] <codenomics> isntalled ubuntu mini and need to get audio working
[01:46] <zykotick9> codenomics: typically, installing a program that needs audio pulls in a working sound system.  what does alsamixer say?
[01:47] <codenomics> havent talked to it yet...
[01:47] <codenomics> bad joke. I know.
[01:48] <codenomics> zykotick9: there is no also mixer that I can find...
[01:48] <bobo37773> codenomics: type alsamixer in a terminal and see if any of them say [M] on the bottom (means muted)
[01:48] <zykotick9> codenomics: alsamixer  - notice the mulpitle a, but no o
[01:48] <codenomics> wow... I said "also mixer" that was a typo
[01:49] <codenomics> there is no alsamixer
[01:49] <zykotick9> codenomics: ;) i don't think you have sound installed
[01:49] <codenomics> neither do i. seems like a lot more is missign than I expected
[01:50] <zykotick9> codenomics: FYI mini starts from NOTHING (if that's what you selected)
[01:50] <codenomics> zykotick9: I selected things... they aparently didnt install
[01:51] <codenomics> installing the alsa-utils right now
[01:51] <zykotick9> codenomics: i've developed long install lists for apt-get, then batch files - for installing my desired system from a mini/netinstall-like cd ;)
[01:51] <codenomics> I like that idea actually
[01:52] <OerHeks> codemaniac, did you install lxde or lubuntu-desktop?
[01:52] <codenomics> lxde
[01:52] <psusi> the mini iso is a misnomer... it is more correctly called the netinst cd... it is not for installing a minimal ubuntu, but rather is a minimal size cd, which then downloads everything needed for the actual installation
[01:53] <zykotick9> codenomics: fyi anything *-desktop in ubuntu brings in a LOT of stuff.  not core to the DE being used.
[01:53] <OerHeks> lubuntu-desktop is the complete metapackage
[01:53] <zykotick9> psusi: ubuntu calls in mini, debian calls it netinstall - no misnomer.
[01:53] <codenomics> yeah I figured
[01:53] <codenomics> I dont want the complete package
[01:53] <psusi> zykotick9, it's a misnomer because it makes people think it is for installing a minimal system, rather than what it really is; a net inst
[01:54] <codenomics> that is why I grabbed this installer
[01:54] <Smackbook> i'm trying to get my hdmi audio out working, when I go into system settings > sound settings and choose the right settings for my hdmi chip on the hardware tab, I can test the left and right and hear the test voice, but none of the system sounds are being routed through there.  when I go into also mixer and select the hdmi sound chip it shows spdif [,1,2] they all have 00 (not MM) but no volume bars (nothing happens when i press up and d
[01:54] <zykotick9> psusi: it IS for installing a minimal system (only option to do that).  BUT it can ALSO install ANYTHING else you want in ubuntu-world ;)
[01:54] <Smackbook> s/also mixer/alsamixer
[01:55] <psusi> zykotick9, the only difference between it and the regular server/alternate installer is that the cd doesn't come with a number of packages already on it, so they have to be downloaded
[01:55] <psusi> it doesn't give any more of a minimal system than those do
[01:55] <codenomics> audio is working yay
[01:55] <zykotick9> psusi: i actually prefer ubuntu's mini, to debian-netinstall (and trust me, that says a lot) - but ubuntu has so many cool options: server, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc.  it's a really cool feature.
[01:56] <codenomics> zykotick9: none of which worked when I selected them
[01:56] <zykotick9> codenomics: i don't think you selected things correctly during install.
[01:57] <codenomics> highlight option, hit spacebar...
[01:57] <codenomics> it shows an X and then you hit enter to continue
[01:57] <codenomics> unless I missed something there
[02:03] <zykotick9> psusi: fyi, if you install from mini and select nothing during tasksel, then you get a bare-bones "ubuntu" system.  where you can install only the packages that you want, and if you avoid the big ubuntu-metapackages (anything-desktop named) you can have a very "light" ubuntu ;)  BUT it can't update from version number to version number without at least one -desktop :(
[02:03] <fewqradw> is there any sort of auto login script for wifi that gets through most wifi spots that require an HTTP login
[02:06] <jrib> fewqradw: I don't know, but they're pretty trivial to write using one of the mechanize libraries (python has one for example)
[02:10] <Datz> HI, what should I do about my acer aspire one touchpad right mouse click not working?
[02:10] <Datz> it works when I boot to win, but not with ubuntu
[02:11] <Datz> it seems to work as a left click
[02:11] <Datz> when it should be a right click
[02:11] <Datz> When I attach an external mouse, everything works fine
[02:12] <Treaver> Hello guys, I recently installed Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on my Desktop. I got the windows wireless drivers to work not I'm having trouble with the graphics. For one there are 4 Propreity drivers and I don't know which to use. For 2 when I start up my computer it gives me some error that the screen resolution needs to be changed. Can anyone help me fix this?
[02:13] <ChesterX> hey everybody, does anyone know how much time it will take before 12.10 comes out stable?
[02:13] <Daekdroom> !quantal | ChesterX
[02:14] <Daekdroom> ChesterX, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[02:14] <ChesterX> thanks :-)
[02:14] <Treaver> !quantal | Treaver
[02:15] <decci> hi
[02:15] <Datz> Oh right, I forgot to say I was using 12.04
[02:24] <LennyKitty> How can I find out why I cant upgrade because of broken packages
[02:27] <LordOfTime> other than network-manager, what else on a server would rewrite resolv.conf?
[02:27] <LordOfTime> (CLI only server)
[02:28] <treaver> I need help bad now like literally life or death here
[02:29] <treaver> My computer has ubuntu 12.04 installed on it but I installed a propeitry driver or something
[02:29] <treaver> Now the computer won't even start up
[02:29] <treaver> Is there a way I can enter a recovery menu?
[02:29] <panda__42> so many people
[02:29] <treaver> can anyone help me?
[02:30] <panda__42> i don't know
[02:30] <RobbyF> treaver, what do you mean wont start up?
[02:31] <treaver> When I turn it on after the restart :::
[02:31] <treaver> It boots to the Emachine sscreen
[02:31] <treaver> Then it says
[02:31] <treaver> "Input signal out of range change settings to 1600x900 = 60hz"
[02:31] <RobbyF> ok
[02:32] <RobbyF> so you have driver issues.
[02:32] <RobbyF> press ctl + alt + f1
[02:32] <RobbyF> it should give you a command prompt depending where you are.
[02:32] <RobbyF> or you'll have to go into safe mode with networking in order to redo your graphics.
[02:33] <treaver> How do I do that
[02:33] <treaver> alt f1 didn't do anything
[02:33] <[x]> RobbyF: how to change host in irc ?
[02:33] <Datz> So I have this problem where my netbook's touchpad's right click acts as a left click. Can someone point me in the right direction.
[02:33] <treaver> How do I boot into safe mode
[02:33] <RobbyF> not sure.
[02:34] <RobbyF> [x], freenode.net might help ya
[02:34] <RobbyF> treaver, I take it you get to the bootloader menu?
[02:34] <[x]><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:34] <treaver> No I don't I get the black screen with white rectangle that shows the stuff
[02:34] <treaver> Oh wait now I get this the system is runnning in low-graphics mode
[02:35] <treaver> What do I do?
[02:35] <[x]><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:35] <RobbyF> update your graphics
[02:35] <treaver> How
[02:35] <RobbyF> what type of video card
[02:37] <treaver> I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me what's wrong :P Maybe call me or something
 what type of video card
[02:37] <treaver> Nivida
[02:37] <LennyKitty> Hey, im attempting to upgrade ubuntu but it tells me I have broken packages, how can I fix this?
[02:37] <RobbyF> k
[02:38] <jc__> hi guys, there's a software that allow me to record from my web-cam, but i need to record every 30 secs
[02:38] <RobbyF> 1) try google, it will walk you through it. but instead, i'll google for you.
[02:38] <webfox> I have a process called plugin-containe and it is constantly using about 40% of my machine processor. Besides my machine is very hot. My question about this process, is it important to have it running, who uses it? Could someone help me figure it please?
[02:38] <zykotick9> LennyKitty: see what "sudo apt-get -f install" is breaking on, and try and fix that package situation.
[02:38] <RobbyF> treaver, have a look here: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat
[02:38] <RobbyF> it's what i use
[02:39] <dundee> Hi guys, Anyone knows why login takes so long on ubuntu 12.04? It used to be faster, then suddenly it takes some time to show my icons.
[02:39] <treaver> ??
[02:39] <RobbyF> dundee, probably a unity issue, should be fixed in the new update for 12.04
[02:40] <RobbyF> 12.10*
[02:40] <treaver> My computer won't even start
[02:40] <RobbyF> yes it will treaver.
[02:40] <treaver> How can I get it to start then
[02:40] <dundee> ok. I guess I should wait on 12.10, or should I update to the Beta?
[02:41] <RobbyF> it is starting. :) your display isn't working correctly.
[02:41] <RobbyF> I've told you what to do already.
[02:41] <LennyKitty> zykotick9: not breaking
[02:41] <treaver> No how do I do it exactly, I'm not good with this
[02:41] <RobbyF> dundee, I would wait for the stable.
[02:41] <dundee> ok thanks.
[02:42] <RobbyF> treaver, I dont know the exact instructions, but the link i gave you should be helpful. try googling - reinstalling drivers from safe mode.
[02:42] <treaver> How do I enter safe mode?
[02:42] <RobbyF> google it
[02:42] <zykotick9> LennyKitty: did it install stuff?  if so retry your upgrade.  fyi, good luck with upgrading - expect issues...
[02:42] <bazhang> RobbyF, never recommend that here. ever.
[02:43] <LennyKitty> zykotick9: no it didnt, but im gonna try it again
[02:43] <RobbyF> sorry.
[02:44] <RobbyF> treaver, when you boot the machine, you have a selectable option to choose safemode.
[02:44] <treaver> No I don't
[02:45] <treaver> It boots to black screen after the Emachines
[02:45] <dundee> by the way could my login taking too long be affected by the fact that I have kubuntu-desktop installed too?
[02:46] <RobbyF> you said before you had low graphics mode?
[02:46] <treaver> It is telling me it's running in low graphics mode now
[02:46] <RobbyF> dundee, possible. but I doubt it. what is 'too long' in terms of time vs your hardware specs.
[02:46] <treaver> I clicked ok
[02:47] <treaver> What would you like to do? run in low-graphics mode for just one session (tried it doens't work) reconfigure graphics (Does nothing) Trouble shoot the error (Gives me a log of useless stuff) Exit to console login (gives me white screen again)
[02:47] <treaver> I tried all options
[02:47] <dundee> Hardware specs ok, 4gb Ram, Dual Core. Time is about 2 mins after I enter my password
[02:49] <RobbyF> dundee, from my experience, that does sound quit long. an older hard drive running bad maybe?
[02:49] <treaver> I will try to install Ubuntu 12.10 again.. Damn when I install this on laptops it works perfectly...
[02:51] <Datz> So I have this problem where my netbook's touchpad's right click acts as a left click. Can someone point me in the right direction.
[02:51] <overclucker> treaver: it's probably a recoverable error, have you tried rebooting into recovery mode? you may need to hold down shift on boot for the menu to pop up
[02:52] <RobbyF> Datz, just taking a guess here, but which netbook? I read that netbook support isn't the greatest.
[02:52] <Datz> it's the acer inspire one
[02:52] <Datz> when I use the mouse, all's well, when I boot to win7, all's well
[02:53] <Datz> I guess there is something wrong with the driver
[02:53] <Datz> too bad the right click is pretty useful
[02:54] <RobbyF> Datz, ubuntu 12.04?
[02:54] <Datz> RobbyF: indeedy
[02:54] <shockingbehavur> !ubottu
[02:55] <danno_> is there anyone on that might be able to walk me through how to set up a squid proxy? I just want to be able to remotely connect to the internet using squid as a proxy. My workplace blocks many sites I need access to
[02:56] <RobbyF> Datz, not sure sorry. but I found this - suggesting its an xserver issue - http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/04/30/installing-ubuntu-12-04-lts-in-acer-aspire-one-d255e-netbook/
[02:59] <overclucker> RobbyF: try synclient -l
[03:00] <overclucker> Datz: actually, i'll just give you the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2048226
[03:02] <blackshirt> how we can search a package come from specific repository ?
[03:02] <overclucker> Datz: oh, i forgot to ask if you have buttons or if it's just part of the touchpad
[03:02] <Datz> overclucker: it's just part of the touchpad
[03:03] <Datz> overclucker: thanks, I'll have to look into that
[03:03] <Datz> thanks RobbyF
[03:05] <blackshirt> how we can search a package come from specific repository ?
[03:06] <Stanley00> blackshirt: you can use synaptic for that.
[03:07] <blackshirt> Stanley00: i'm not gui environment, i'm on cli mode
[03:08] <Stanley00> blackshirt: hmm, I don't know how to do that with cli, but why do you need that?
[03:09] <pibarnas> blackshirt: sudo apt-cache search?
[03:10] <Stanley00> blackshirt: how about this "cat /var/lib/apt/lists/(repo name)_Packages |grep Package"
[03:10] <blackshirt> Stanley00: wait a minute
[03:12] <ChesterX> hello everyboy, how can i connect to a local database whose url is //<IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:12] <ChesterX> i can t access it with my internet explorer and i believe i need to use the file explorer somehow
[03:12] <somsip> ChesterX: it's likely to be <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:12] <Datz> that's going to depend on the protocol and interface
[03:12] <ChesterX> any suggestions?
[03:12] <Datz> oh yea
[03:12] <ChesterX> well i tried and it didn t send me to the appropriate domain
[03:13] <Datz> may not be able to access it locally then
[03:13] <somsip> ChesterX: 168.X.X.X is not a range I recognise for local networks, whereas 192.X.X.X is
[03:13] <Datz> yea, that too
[03:14] <somsip> ChesterX: and if it isn't runniong a web server, you wont get anything in IE
[03:14] <somsip> ChesterX: and why are you running IE and asking questions in #ubuntu??
[03:14] <ChesterX> i am not running ie
[03:14] <somsip> ChesterX: ChesterX> i can t access it with my internet explorer
[03:15] <ChesterX> an internet explorer => ff or chrome etc
[03:15] <somsip> ChesterX: it's called a browser. Anyway...
[03:17] <Samus> test
[03:17] <somsip> !test | Samus
[03:17] <Samus> #test
[03:18] <somsip> Samus: /join #test
[03:20] <overclucker> blackshirt: aptitude search '~Aprecise~daptitude'
[03:21] <tripelb> my diskimage .iso "has no checsum information to verify"
[03:22] <Treaver> Can someone explain to me when Propitiatory Driver I should use?
[03:22] <tripelb> on a macfolloing directions in community's page
[03:22] <overclucker> Treaver: when to use proprietary?
[03:23] <Treaver> Well that and which I should use
[03:24] <BlackWeb> Just wondering I've been using SSH, & my main concern is that say I ssh into a remote server and start a file transfer to the remote system, but if i close the ssh window on my local machine it will stop the transfer, Is there anyway to start a task on a remote server using ssh and not have to leave the current system up and running?
[03:24] <somsip> !screen | BlackWeb
[03:25] <somsip> BlackWeb: so you start screen on the server, connect to it through ssh, run commands on it, and detach from it. It carries on
[03:25] <Treaver> !Proprietary
[03:25] <somsip> BlackWeb: also, byobu and tmux
[03:25] <Treaver> !proprietary
[03:25] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll look into that Thanks :)
[03:25] <somsip> BlackWeb: np
[03:26] <Treaver> !nivida
[03:26] <overclucker> Treaver: if you want to do gaming or something a proprietary driver might help, or if the driver linux provides isn't working
[03:27] <Treaver> So proprietary drivers are not needed?
[03:27] <overclucker> Treaver: nope
[03:27] <Treaver> Hmm
[03:27] <Treaver> Ok, now if I want to install a proprietary driver which one do I choose
[03:29] <tripelb> solved I have another bad image.  wifi hotspots torrent..  2ND BAD IMAGE any suggestions?
[03:29] <somsip> Treaver: for nvidia? nvidia-current is probaby recommended
[03:30] <fbernier> Hi, im trying to set a custom path to a .desktop launcher but the app just won't launch. What am I doing wrong?
[03:30] <fbernier> Exec=env PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.rvm/bin gvim -f %F
[03:30] <Treaver> Ok now when I installed that before it gave me this screen on startup that said
[03:30] <Treaver> Input signal out of reach change settings to 1800x900
[03:31] <Asphyxium> Can anyone please tell me if Ubuntu 9.10 supports changing the refresh rate through the display window or if I have to download version 8?
[03:32] <overclucker> Treaver: you might need to modify your monitor settings in the Xorg.conf file.
[03:32] <somsip> Asphyxium: 9.10 support ended Apr 2011
[03:33] <Asphyxium> But does anyone remember?  I'm trying to find a non-Unity desktop which supports GUI modification of the refresh rate.
[03:33] <Asphyxium> I know version 8 does but I want the newest one possible
[03:34] <Asphyxium> The problem is my Internet connection.  It transfers at only 92 kilobytes a second, thus a 700 MB download is a big deal for me.
[03:35] <|Anthony|> I'm trying to use pidgin with google talk. the options to do a video/voice call are grayed out. Any suggestions?
[03:35] <Kelev> hola
[03:36] <Kelev> hola
[03:36] <Kelebra> hola
[03:37] <Kelev> exit
[03:38] <fuzz01> Anyone know how to get the dash to hide and unhide automatically
[03:38] <Asphyxium> Give it Mountain Dew
[03:38] <Asphyxium> j/k
[03:38] <Asphyxium> I have no idea
[03:38] <overclucker> Asphyxium: it's too bad ubuntu doesn't ship free cds anymore, that was really helpful for a lot of people. can you download it to a usb drive at a library or somewhere with high speed internet?
[03:39] <eset> hi
[03:39] <Asphyxium> I could try the library but they charge and probably have a T1 line that's tied up
[03:39] <eset> search help
[03:39] <Asphyxium> I live in a less affluent town
[03:39] <eset> i am from colombia
[03:40] <Asphyxium> Nice name
[03:40] <Asphyxium> Thanks for trying oc
[03:40] <eset> help an install operation7 in xubuntu
[03:42] <overclucker> Asphyxium: you can set refresh rate in xorg.conf, but it makes me sad taht you are stuck with 9.10 )-;
[03:45] <sdw195> hey,  my friend installed the latest ubuntu on his old notebook and cant get the wifi to work, i had the same issue a while ago and used a command in the terminal to fix it, any ideas on what it might be?
[03:47] <overclucker> sdw195: was modprobe?
[03:47] <sdw195> modprobe?
[03:50] <overclucker> sdw195: used to load kernel modules. do you see the device listed in network-manager?
[03:51] <BlackWeb> somsip are you still on
[03:51] <sdw195> do have access to the pc, he emailed me from his xp boot
[03:52] <somsip> BlackWeb: yes
[03:55] <BlackWeb> Alright, nvm I think i figured it out, So i went ahead and tried screen using SCP then it executed it, then it brought me back to the command prompt and I executed screen -ls and see the process now, so do i have to first detach from it before i close out ssh
[03:56] <sdw195> dont not do, sorry
[03:57] <BlackWeb> Then when i reattach is there away to see the progress of the scp
[03:58] <somsip> BlackWeb: first, I don't use screen. I can only give advice in the context of tmux. With tmux, it's always running on my servers. I connect to the servers with  something like 'autossh {ssh-alias} -t tmux a' so it reattaches to the running tmux session automatically. If I run a long script, like a DB dump, I detach from tmux with CTRL-B D, and that drops to my terminal. If I connect again, it reattaches to the same session so I can s
[04:00] <fuzz01> quit
[04:00] <somsip> BlackWeb: in short, you need to reattach the to running session of screen. I'd use 'tmux a'. Screen will have something similar
[04:01] <BlackWeb> Alright, I'll try out tmux, cause ya I went ahead and reattached to the process and it just appears as attached but no progress indicator is shown
[04:01] <BlackWeb> for the scp command
[04:01] <somsip> BlackWeb: you might have created a new session instead of reattching to an existing one.
[04:01] <somsip> BlackWeb: And I wouldn't say tmux is bette.r IT's just the one I decided on for reasons lost in memory...
[04:02] <kiwi_3063> 'screen -x' to reattach to an existing screen session
[04:02] <kiwi_3063> 'secreen -r' to specify a specific screne instance if you have multiple detached
[04:03] <BlackWeb> alright I'll mess around with it a little more, cause ya it shows that I've reattached to the processID but not sure how so see the progress indicator for SCP
[04:04] <somsip> BlackWeb: it shiould just show like a terminal window. But kiwi_3063 seems to knwo about screen so maybe he can take over with help?
[04:04] <kiwi_3063> im just about to leave sorry, just thought id chip in there :p
[04:04] <BlackWeb> Alright its cool,
[04:04] <somsip> BlackWeb: any chance you have two sessions running and connected to the wrong one?
[04:05] <waco001> hello
[04:05] <waco001> hey i gotta question....
[04:05] <BlackWeb> Right now it looks just like a regular terminal window, & when i list the process by screen -ls then it shows me as attached, but is there anyway to see the progress of the process
[04:06] <BlackWeb> There is a screen on:
[04:06] <BlackWeb>         1878.pts-1.SWORD        (10/07/2012 09:50:41 PM)        (Attached)
[04:06] <BlackWeb> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-infinity.
[04:06] <BlackWeb> Thats what i get when I type screen -ls
[04:06] <somsip> BlackWeb: it should look like a normal ssh/terminal. The same as it was when you detached
[04:06] <BlackWeb> ya it does
[04:06] <BlackWeb> is there a way to see the progress of the scp command I executed
[04:06] <somsip> BlackWeb: but it should show the last commands you enetered, which I guess should include the scp
[04:07] <waco001> can someone help me install ubuntu alongisde windows 7
[04:08] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll see if I can figure it out,
[04:09] <somsip> BlackWeb: the only other thing I suggest is detach from screen and screen -ls to make sure you just have one running. Kill the other if there is one, or connect to the one that was running scp using the screen -r command suggested by kiwi_3063
[04:10] <BlackWeb> Alright, I'll give that a try, Thanks for all the Help :)
[04:10] <TekStakLT> waco001 - I just followed this tutorial about an hour ago and it went very smoothly. I'm no where near an expert, but have used this to dual boot several times
[04:10] <somsip> BlackWeb: np.
[04:10] <TekStakLT> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/
[04:12] <Aravoth> someone give me an ecuse to abndon windos forever please
[04:13] <waco001> ok thx tek ill try it
[04:14] <bobo37773> Aravoth: They are watching you.
[04:14] <TekStakLT> lol
[04:15] <waco001> harikt
[04:15] <harikt> yes waco001
[04:15] <waco001> banglore aweseome
[04:17] <harikt> so you are at Bangalore now ?
[04:21] <Aravoth> my wife was screwing around on my computer, for some reason my windows install was 85gb
[04:22] <tr1ppy> #backtrack-linux
[04:23] <bobo37773> tr1ppy: trying to join another channel??
[04:23] <tr1ppy> yes
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, /j #backtrack-linux
[04:23] <tr1ppy> idk how
[04:23] <tr1ppy> im banned
[04:23] <tr1ppy> for some reason
[04:23] <tr1ppy> i heard if your user is root you get banned
[04:23] <tr1ppy> but i changed it
[04:24] <tr1ppy> im trying to configure my mic
[04:24] <tr1ppy> it dont work
[04:24] <bobo37773> tr1ppy: it's like this-->      /join #channelname
[04:24] <tr1ppy> yeah im banned
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, You have to be registered for that channel.
[04:25] <tr1ppy> how do you register?
[04:25] <somsip> !register | tr1ppy
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, Are you still root or using that as a user name?
[04:29] <tr1ppy> idk
[04:29] <tr1ppy> do you have skype?
[04:29] <tr1ppy> i cant figure it out lol
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, To be honest you might be over your head with backtrack it has specific uses, none of which include having it actually installed on a computer intrinsically, it is a pen OS for IT use at best.
[04:31] <tr1ppy> i know
[04:31] <tr1ppy> its for fun
[04:31] <tr1ppy> i have everythign set up
[04:31] <tr1ppy> just not my mic
[04:31] <tr1ppy> and irc
[04:32] <bazhang> !enter | tr1ppy
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, I don't pm and have added you to ignore as of now.
[04:32] <somsip> bazhang: it's a backtrack support issue
[04:32] <tr1ppy> whats that mean?
[04:32] <bazhang> tr1ppy, backtrack is not supported here
[04:32] <tr1ppy> i know
[04:32] <tr1ppy> its ubuntu though cant deny that
[04:32] <bazhang> tr1ppy, so stop asking for support
[04:33] <tr1ppy> its still ubuntu
[04:33] <tr1ppy> its the same thing
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> would it be safe to remove zeitgeist?
[04:35] <bobo37773> tr1ppy: No backtrack is much more insecure actually. Anyone who is using backtrack outside of it being a livecd and without either a) creating a regular user and / or b) creating a chroot jail should not use it at all. Just install a version of a mainstream distro and port over the tools you need.
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> +1 you said it, and so many try it out, lol
[04:37] <bobo37773> It's okay. No one ever listens. Always have to learn the hard way ;)
[04:39] <saquib> :)
[04:45] <asilhouette> Hi everyone
[04:46] <bobo37773> So the new unity interface. Can it run other window managers inside it like the old --replace?
[04:46] <bobo37773> asilhouette: Hey
[04:46] <asilhouette> i've been having trouble with BADSIG problem during update
[04:46] <asilhouette> bobo37773:  you mean like xfce??
[04:46] <somsip> bobo37773: you can run other WMs, but *inside it*? Not sure what you mean by this.
[04:47] <asilhouette> here's a error i'm getting
[04:47] <asilhouette> W: GPG error: http://np.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:47] <bobo37773> asilhouette: No xfce is a DE. Little different
[04:48] <asilhouette> tried some gpg recieve keys from the internet but didn't work
[04:48] <bobo37773> somsip: I mean the window manager inside is compiz right? Can you run say openbox instead with unity on top? Doesn't seem like it would be possible anymore with the graphical dependencies
[04:49] <bobo37773> somsip: Seems like the wm is a hard run time dependency of the de now. That is the feeling I get from gnome-shell too
[04:49] <somsip> bobo37773: I'm not sure compiz is the WM. I though compiz only did effects. Anyway, I've never seen anythign that suggest it's possible to do what you're asking. Install a WM, start it on login, use it. That's it
[04:50] <asilhouette> hello guys, any help with BADSIG errors
[04:50] <asilhouette> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "KEY" doesn't work
[04:51] <bobo37773> somsip: For compiz to do the effects it has to be the window manager. Some desktop environments let you change the window managers during run time. Most of them used to be that way. Guess I've lost touch a little.
[04:52] <bobo37773> asilhouette: Maybe you can pastebin the error so people here can see. Could help you more than telling us maybe
[04:52] <somsip> bobo37773: I understand the unity/compiz relationship is pretty tight. Dunno though - I only ran unity for a few days.
[04:53] <asilhouette> k thanks bobo37773
[04:53] <bobo37773> somsip: Yeah me too. Switched to openbox a long time ago because of graphical bugs (not that openbox is without bugs though hahaha).
[04:53] <IdleOne> !gpgerr | asilhouette
[04:53] <IdleOne> asilhouette: you need to change the <key> for the actual key
[04:54] <asilhouette> IdleOne: i did that doesn't change the keys
[04:54] <IdleOne> asilhouette: from the error you pasted earlier it would be sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 437D05B5
[04:54] <asilhouette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1266927/
[04:55] <asilhouette> ok let me check IdleOne
[04:55] <asilhouette> thanks
[04:56] <asilhouette> still gpg unchanged
[04:58] <asilhouette> here's the paste of the error
[04:58] <asilhouette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1266927/
[05:00] <IdleOne> try  sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com A75E6C2A
[05:01] <asilhouette> k
[05:02] <asilhouette> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[05:02] <asilhouette> gpg:              unchanged: 1
[05:02] <asilhouette>  IdleOne
[05:03] <IdleOne> don't know, sorry
[05:03] <steveGODSchild> hi I need help
[05:03] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys.
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !ask | steveGODSchild
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> I recently got a new computer and installed Ubuntu on it.
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> It has 2 hard drives, a solid state and a regular drive.
[05:04] <steveGODSchild> I am running windows 7 as my main os
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> The intention was to install Ubuntu to the SSD, which I did and then install everything else onto the 1TB extra HDD.
[05:04] <asilhouette> k thanks for trying to help IdleOne
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> But for some reason, everything is being installed to SSD. What do I do to fix it?
[05:04] <somsip> Shazer[2]: what is 'everything else'?
[05:04] <steveGODSchild> and I am running 98 and xp and ubuntu on virtual box
[05:05] <steveGODSchild> I am running ubuntu 12.04
[05:05] <steveGODSchild> my dvd burner wont recognise
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Shazer[2], What is everything you need to be detailed
[05:06] <aneek> can any one tell me root password reset tool for ubuntu instead of ubuntu live cd ?
[05:06] <Ben64> aneek: single user mode
[05:06] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Are you saying that you want your /home directory to be on the large drive and your system binaries to be on the ssd? Is that what you're getting at?
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Are you trying to reset the password, or have you forgot it?
[05:08] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: So that your movies and music and all that is on the big one?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> all these win7 dualboot problems these days
[05:09] <[deXter]> Hi all, how can I check what runlevel I'm currently in?
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Its not rocket science. ;)
[05:09] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773, that's exactly right.
[05:09] <bobo37773> lotuspsychje: Hmm? Like what?
[05:09] <steveGODSchild> can someone help me
[05:09] <Shazer[2]> I guess. :/
[05:09] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Gotcha. So first question: Did you encrypt your system at install time?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> bobo37773:most of the issues ppl come here is win7 boot messed up after installing ubuntu
[05:10] <aneek> wilee-nilee i want to reset password
[05:10] <Ben64> !lostpass | aneek
[05:10] <aneek> i upgrade my ubuntu but now i m not able to logon admin account
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Are you in the OS now and do you know the password?
[05:10] <Ben64> !pwreset | aneek
[05:10] <bobo37773> lotuspsychje: Weird. Never had any issue like that. Of course I dumped windows after realizing I hadn't booted it for 6 months hahaahha
[05:10] <aneek> i know password
[05:11] <Ben64> aneek: admin account? root doesn't have a password, use sudo
[05:11] <aneek> i tried with recovery mode
[05:11] <aneek> and with live cd as well
[05:11] <aneek> but it doesn't worked for me
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> aneek, If you are in the OS open a terminal and type passwd, put the one in now and the new one and confirm it and you're set.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> bobo37773:i try convince ppl single boot ubuntu for an easier life :p
[05:11] <aneek> i type sudo -s
[05:11] <aneek> but not having authantication
[05:12] <aneek> it is not a admin account
[05:12] <bobo37773> lotuspsychje: All they have to do is use it. They will convince themselves or give up
[05:12] <aneek> i m logon by user
[05:12] <Ben64> !enter | aneek
[05:12] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: nope
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Are you a super user a admin user?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> aneek, root is sudo -i
[05:13] <aneek> ok ubottu
[05:13] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Okay that's good. Now there are a couple of things that we are going to need to do. What is on the big drive now? Is it empty or does it have something on it?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Ben64:so if anyone can recover password like this, how would one safely store data on hd nobody can ever touch?
[05:13] <aneek> no wilee-nilee i m not logoned as superuser  ,
[05:14] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: apparently it is empty?
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Then you can't get root.
[05:14] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Okay. So this is not a dual boot or anything right?
[05:14] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: nope
[05:15] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: you don't
[05:15] <aneek> so is there any option like in window we use ERD something is there any alternative option available for ubuntu wille?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Ben64:even on encrypted drive possible to recover passes?
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Why do you not have a admin account>
[05:16] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: OKay good. Do you know how to use pastebin or other pasting services? Going to assume yes. I want you to run a couple of commands for me in the terminal and paste the output okay
[05:16] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: sure thing. :)
[05:16] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: can we do this in PM?
[05:16] <Shazer[2]> It's hard keeping track of all the messages.
[05:17] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Yeah it would actually probably make a lot more sense hahaha pm me
[05:17] <aneek> actually it blocked wilee i upgrade my ubuntu and now i m only able to login on normal user account but i have two more account one for admin and one for other user i m not able to logon for these two account
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> aneek, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword  you can reset the name and password if you don't have either remembered.
[05:20] <steven-> what do I use to load music onto my iphone 5?
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Sounds like it is a upgrade problem though so this may not work if it is broken, I hope you have a backup of the OS before upgrading.
[05:21] <blob4000> is there are channel for questions about 12.10?
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> blob4000, #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <xangua> blob4000: #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <blob4000> cheers
[05:22] <xangua> steven-: not the most third party friendly device :P
[05:22] <ardchoille> xangua: indeed. steven Rhythmbox will recognize the iPhone but I've never been able to sync with it
[05:23] <steven-> yea but its what I got
[05:23] <steven-> RMS can come chop off my head later
[05:23] <vivid> steven-, i used a program called gtkpod in the past, not sure if it works with the iphone though
[05:24] <ardchoille> vivid: gtkpod worked with my iPhone 4S, not sure about the iPhone 5 though
[05:24] <iceroot> steven-: if you want the FREEDOM to do with your phone what you want (e.g. putting music on it) use a real phone and not a apple jail
[05:24] <aritchie_> true that
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> steven-, hehe the pope of the church of GNU would not be ding any beheading.
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> doing*
[05:25] <[deXter]> Hi all, what's the best way to add a directory to the path for all the users in a system (without having to touch their home profiles)
[05:25] <[deXter]> I edited /etc/login.defs but that doesn't seem to have any effect
[05:27] <steven-> sure wish shit just worked
[05:27] <somsip> [deXter]: /etc/profile or /etc/profile.d might be likely candidates, but need more research
[05:27] <iceroot> steven-: its not the fault of ubuntu, blame apple for that
[05:28] <iceroot> steven-: we dont care about that to be honest
[05:29] <steven-> its everyone fault man
[05:29] <iceroot> steven-: its the fault from people which support something like that by buying there products
[05:31] <steveGODSchild> I need help
[05:32] <steveGODSchild> will someone please help me
[05:32] <jagginess> [deXter], your question isnt very clear.. what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:32] <steven-> he needs someone
[05:32] <[deXter]> jagginess, nvm, I found /etc/environment; thanks. :)
[05:33] <timfrost> !ask | steveGODSchild:
[05:34] <jagginess> steven-, i use subsonic, it streams music (there's a subsonic app for it, two of them, but the problem you'll have is the 30 day limit of the subsonic API--- this isnt a 30 day limit on the ipod/iphone app, but on the "API" of the hosting subsonic server-- you can give a little donation to receive a key for unlimitted use of the API)
[05:35] <jagginess> steven-, (the donation goes to the subsonic.org, which arent the makers of the ipod app)
[05:35] <steven-> look all I want to do is get this chuck klosterman audio book onto my iphone and go for a jog
[05:35] <steveGODSchild> I use ubuntu 12.04
[05:35] <steven-> I got the files stolen from what.cd in mp3 forum
[05:35] <jagginess> steven-, well listen kid, you said "music", so go on and take on the day
[05:35] <steven-> I just want them to go onto the iphone and play
[05:35] <jagginess> lol
[05:36] <jagginess> same thing, you can use that too.
[05:36] <steveGODSchild> I am using virtual box
[05:36] <steven-> i'm about to pay for this book
[05:36] <steven-> just so I don't have to deal with this
[05:36] <steveGODSchild> ubuntu will not recognise my cd rom
[05:36] <steven-> this is what the world has come to
[05:38]  * jagginess thinks people who joke about "stealing" should be kicked.
[05:38] <somsip> steven-: do you have a support question. really.
[05:38] <steven-> I took my bites and bytes and now no one else can ever have them
[05:38] <jagginess> somsip, no he doesnt.
[05:40] <steven-> somsip: yea how do I load mp3 files from ubuntu onto my iphone?
[05:40] <somsip> steven-: no idea. I believe their is software that works like itunes but I've never used them
[05:40] <somsip> *there
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> steveGODSchild, Did you install the extension pack, you might try #vbox
[05:42] <steveGODSchild> what is the extention pacjk
[05:42] <steveGODSchild> and where do I get it
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> steveGODSchild, You know they have a comprehensive manual. https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[05:44] <steveGODSchild> thanks I will go and read that
[05:44] <steveGODSchild> thanks for the info
[05:45] <BlackWeb> Hey just wondering if someone could help me out, I'm using Screen right now and when I transfer files from a remote server then it starts the transfer, then just places it in the background, My question is alright the transfer has started but How do I know the progress of the transfer using Screen, So that I know if its almost done or if its done?
[05:47] <steven-> you closed out of the screen and now you want it back?
[05:47] <steven-> try screen -raAd
[05:48] <BlackWeb> No, I'm still attached to the Session of screen which is doing a FTP transfer, How do I know the progress of the FTP Transfer
[05:48] <steven-> what are you using for the ftp transfer?
[05:48] <BlackWeb> so the FTP transfer is taking place in the background with Screen but I have no Idea when the Transfer is completed or the progress of the transfer
[05:49] <BlackWeb> SCP
[05:49] <steven-> you cant pull up the screen with the running scp?
[05:49] <BlackWeb> Is there a way to see the progress
[05:49] <steven-> you know how screen works?
[05:49] <steven-> you can go back to windows you had in screens
[05:50] <BlackWeb> Ya, I'm attached to the current window, and its doing the Transfer in the background but how do I see the progress of the transfer
[05:51] <BlackWeb> So Have 3 PCs ( A B C) Local connected  to A, SSH into C, Transfering files from B to C, but cant see the transfer progress going to C
[05:52] <steven-> not sure thats over my head
[05:54] <somsip> BlackWeb: So you ssh to C. You run screen. You issue 'scp B:file C:' and it shows you the progress. You detach from screen and you drop to the ssh to C. You close that, you're back at A. You ssh to C again, you reconnect to screen again, and it should show you the scp progress
[05:54] <steven-> 5 years ago I ran gentoo got my music from mpd and used pine to get my mail now I can't even load mp3s onto my 600$ phone this must be what its like to get old
[05:54] <BlackWeb> somsip thats the thing when I do that then it Executes the SCP and it doesnt show any progress but the Transfer is taking place though
[05:55] <BlackWeb> so I started screen
[05:55] <BlackWeb> it gives me a new session
[05:55] <BlackWeb> then when I do the scp
[05:55] <BlackWeb> its does it then brings me back to the command promp
[05:55] <somsip> has it finished? Commands usually do that when you have completed
[05:57] <BlackWeb> The file is on the Machine ya, So its suppose to have progress bar until it finishes it using Screen, Cause right now I'm testing it using 3 Computers on Local Network, but going to eventually use it with my Seedbox
[05:58] <somsip> BlackWeb: does the progress bar show when you just ssh and scp from that without screen?
[05:58] <somsip> BlackWeb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44059/progress-bar-in-scp-command
[05:59] <BlackWeb> No, as soon as I "scp file1 Server" then it moves down one line, and back at command prompt but file is on server now so no progress bar at all
[05:59] <somsip> BlackWeb: so there isn't a progress bar with scp and it's not a problem with screen?
[05:59] <BlackWeb> But if I dont use Screen then scp then ya there is a status bar
[06:00] <somsip> BlackWeb: nope. I don't get what you're doing here. Sorry.
[06:02] <ardchoille> somsip: sounds like he gets a progress bar with scp when he isn't in a screen session, but it disappears when he is in a screen session. now he wants the status bar back when in screen
[06:02] <ebravick> screen doesn't do a number of things well, try tmux and you might have better results.
[06:03] <somsip> ardchoille: yes, but I don't understand why this is happening. I'm a tmux user with no direct experience of screen
[06:03] <ardchoille> somsip: it seems tmux handles things better than screen
[06:03] <ardchoille> ebravick: thank you for that info
[06:03] <somsip> ardchoille: that's maybe why I expect it to work simply
[06:04] <PaSsI> can anyone plese tell me the help channel for virtual box?
[06:04] <somsip> PaSsI: #vbox I believe
[06:04] <PaSsI> somsip,  thanks
[06:04] <ardchoille> somsip: yeah, I wasn't aware of this issue either.. until ebravick spoke up
[06:04] <somsip> PaSsI: could be wrong. Someone else asked earlier and that was the repl
[06:05] <BlackWeb> Alright I figured it out, have to use the verbose option, When Using just scp I dont
[06:05] <timfrost> somsip: BlackWeb: progress bar functionality needs a terminal type that supports it.  If screen is presenting a terminal type that scp sees as too dumb, it won't do a progress bar.
[06:05] <BlackWeb> Sorry my bad, Thanks everyone :)
[06:05] <somsip> timfrost: ah - I'm used to installed ncurses-termcap which sorts that sort of thing out IIRC
[06:05] <somsip> BlackWeb: cool- glad you got it in the end
[06:06] <PaSsI> somsip, vbox it is....thanks again
[06:06] <somsip> PaSsI: heh
[06:07] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:07] <ShapeShifter499> I have a app installed in wine how do I get firefox (native linux) to handle url protocols with it?
[06:08] <ardchoille> ShapeShifter499: you might also ask in the wine channel, #winehq I believe
[06:08] <ShapeShifter499> I have
[06:08] <vox> ShapeShifter499: i'd imagine you'd have to get the app to pass the urls to ff
[06:08] <ShapeShifter499> I know it worked in the past
[06:08] <ShapeShifter499> but this is on a fresh install and I can't seem to get it to work
[06:13] <Dataholic> Can i use mini.iso in UCK, i want to create livecd with vmware-view-client 1.6 and gnome installed is it possible with UCK?
[06:31] <saquib> :)
[06:34] <steveGODSchild> I need hel-\
[06:34] <mechteam> hey guys...can I have lucid type gnome look in 12.04 ....
[06:34] <somsip> !nounity | mechteam
[06:34] <steveGODSchild> I need help
[06:38] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: you there?
[06:42] <Treaver> Does anyone know how to hide the file extensions in Ubuntu?
[06:42] <gordonjcp> Treaver: there aren't any file extensions
[06:43] <gordonjcp> Treaver: you mean like ".com" ".bat" and so on?
[06:44] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[06:45] <gordonjcp> yellabs-r2: morning
[06:45] <yellabs-r2> i have thsi problem , on 12.04 and firefox , that firefox does not open torrents in transmission any more
[06:45] <yellabs-r2> any tips are welcome
[06:46] <gordonjcp> yellabs-r2: what happens when you click on a torrent link?
[06:46] <NoOova> Hello all!
[06:46] <yellabs-r2> it asks me to open it in google crhome
[06:47] <NoOova> how at english named "First name, last name, middle name and sex" in one word?
[06:47] <gordonjcp> NoOova: there isn't one word for that
[06:47] <NoOova> "Credentials" is not that?
[06:48] <yellabs-r2> it say's , and i quote : Open with Google Chrome ( default )
[06:48] <gordonjcp> NoOova: I guess you could use credentials but that's not really what it means
[06:48] <gordonjcp> NoOova: anyway #u-ot
[06:49] <gordonjcp> yellabs-r2: what other options do you have in the dropdown?
[06:49] <yellabs-r2> choose the program
[06:49] <jshaw10> ello
[06:49] <yellabs-r2> that i would ike to use
[06:51] <yellabs-r2> i could then choose transmission-gtk, but the option to keep it as default is greyed out
[06:52] <yellabs-r2> so i would have to do that every time, that setting would not be saved
[06:52] <diverdude> when i go to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and remove the comment (#) from the line: #Port 22 and instead write Port 50683, save and close and do /etc/init.d/sshd restart i cannot connect to ssh any long - even if i do ssh x.x.x.x -p 50683.  How do i move ssh to another port so that it actually works?
[06:53] <pwnguin> postgresql-client-9.1 : Breaks: postgresql-9.1 (< 9.1.6-0ubuntu12.04) but 9.1.5-0ubuntu12.04 is installed
[06:53] <somsip> diverdude: does a port <1024 work?
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> hmm, if i run firefox as root , it does work
[06:53] <pwnguin> how does one convince apt to upgrade postgresql-9.1 and -client when they both break versions smaller than one another?
[06:54] <yellabs-r2> but i dont want that afcause , does it give any clue 's as to what the problem might be ?
[06:55] <diverdude> somsip: no, same. i tried 7867, and also did not work
[06:55] <somsip> diverdude: erm...7867 is not less than 1024...
[06:57] <diverdude> somsip: oh sry, i read wrong
[06:58] <somsip> diverdude: I use 1022. There was probably some reason why I didn't use >1024 that I don't remember now...
[06:58] <ardchoille> somsip: small screen netbook?
[06:58] <fidel_> hi - i need to add some kind of wait/sleep to a shell/bash script. what would you guys recommend? sleep?
[06:59] <pwnguin> seems removing and reinstalling the packages "fixed" it
[06:59] <somsip> ardchoille: no. webservers.
[06:59] <ardchoille> fidel_: look at man sleep, some options there
[07:00] <ripthejacker> hi guys is there any way to make shortcut key to open terminal in the current directory like in KDE?
[07:00] <ripthejacker> i can make shortcut key to open terminal but that would open my home directory
[07:01] <leehambley> how does one diagnose a crash, when the server has stopped responding, and has to be remote restarted (soft) - are there any logs that survive the reboot?
[07:01] <fidel_> ardchoille: yep i do know sleep - i was just wondering if you guxys wouldrecommend something else instead of sleep ;)
[07:02] <Stanley00> ripthejacker: if you're using nautilus, you can install nautilus-open-terminal
[07:02] <diverdude> somsip: 1022 dont work either
[07:02] <leehambley> I'm assuming it's memory/swap related, since I'm running a long running background job, but it's hard to day
[07:02] <leehambley> to say*
[07:02] <somsip> diverdude: firewall?
[07:02] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: gnome-terminal --working-directory /path/to/desired/dir
[07:02] <diverdude> somsip: only if there is a firewall built into centos
[07:03] <somsip> diverdude: centos? No idea then
[07:05] <iman> Hi guys, I just want to know about main and restricted and universe and multiverse , there aren't update patches for universe and multiverse component in ubuntu repositories  ?
[07:05] <iman> and there are support for main and restricted componenet ?
[07:11] <truman> Hello! Could somone  answer how to power of ubuntu 12.04, i have try the grub-update and sudo poweroff and and it dont work
[07:11] <somsip> truman: sudo shutdown -h now
[07:12] <truman> ok thanks
[07:12] <zilvukas> sudo halt -p
[07:13] <yellabs-r2> strange problem solved : firefox not opening transmission , wanting to open with google chrome instead : delete google chrome , wich was installed from the internet site, restores the default firefox behavior, and it opens torrents again with transmission
[07:13] <ripthejacker> ardchoille, path to desired dir? but that will always open it in same directory i want it to open in current working directory
[07:14] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: that will open the terminal where you tell it to. isn't that what you asked for?
[07:16] <ripthejacker> ardchoille, no i want to set a keyborad shortcut to open terminal with pwd as the current directory just like f4 key in KDe
[07:17] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: oh, ok, I don't have any idea, but I think that will involve using "URI" similar to what is used in a nautilus script
[07:19] <ripthejacker> ardchoille, i have no idea how to do that but still thanks for helping
[07:21] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: I think the biggest hurdle for that will be getting the keyboard shortcut to know what the value of pwd is at any given moment. The nautilus-open-terminal can do it but that is a right click tather than a kb shortcut
[07:23] <ripthejacker> ardchoille, nautilus-open-terminal will do for now thanks friend :)
[07:24] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: good luck :)
[07:24] <ripthejacker> i have to re login after installing it?
[07:24] <ardchoille> you shouldn't need to but relaunch nautilus
[07:24] <diverdude> i know now for sure that iptables is causing the problem since /etc/init.d/iptables stop makes it work! however, adding a rule like iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 50683 -j ACCEPT and then stop and start does not work :( So what am I missing?
[07:26] <tortu-geniale> yo !
[07:26] <Zokol> hello
[07:26] <tortu-geniale> francais ?
[07:26] <Zokol> nope
[07:26] <ardchoille> !fr | tortu-geniale
[07:26] <tortu-geniale> witch country ?
[07:26] <Zokol> finland
[07:27] <tortu-geniale> ok :)
[07:27] <Zokol> actually, i have a bit of problem with ubuntu server
[07:27] <tortu-geniale> that's the first time that i test IRC
[07:28] <Zokol> hoping to find some sort of clue from here.. How to find out why lighttpd uses all of the memory and swap?
[07:28] <fidel_> !details | Zokol
[07:29] <fidel_> Zokol: there is btw #ubuntu-server aswell - not sure if it really adds more then this channel already can offer
[07:31] <fidel_> Zokol: and there again is #lighttpd aswell ;)
[07:32] <Zokol> I'm running 10.04.3 on three servers with lighttpd, PHP and mapserver. Each of the servers starts to commit more and more memory at 2pm, it stops at 5:30am when lighttpd is restarted with cron.
[07:33] <Zokol> just curious if there is a way to see why lighttpd uses that much memory
[07:33] <fidel_> Zokol: personaly i am not used to lighttpd - there for consider asking in the project channel aswell - at least if noone else inhere is able to offer help
[07:34] <Zokol> thanks, i will ask from #lighttpd
[07:39] <sword_hacker> ^_^
[07:40] <LittleFool> Iam about to install a program that uses a lot of space in various folders in /var so i was about to mount another drive into /var but what happens when i do so?
[07:41] <LittleFool> Do the "old" files and folders get removed or are simply new files written onto that new drive?
[07:41] <geirha> LittleFool: The old files will be untouched and still be there, but hidden below the new filesystem mounted on top
[07:42] <LittleFool> geirha: so they arent usable? means i have to copy them before mounting at this point?
[07:42] <Xethron> Can anyone help me with 3G?
[07:42] <geirha> LittleFool: So you should boot a live CD, mount the new /var partition on /mnt or something, copy the files from the current /var to /mnt, then have it mounted on /var on next boot
[07:43] <LittleFool> geirha: okey thanks for the info
[07:43] <geirha> LittleFool: If that works, boot back into a live session and wipe the old /var dir
[07:43] <Xethron> How do I check to see if Linux detects my 3G device?'
[07:44] <Xethron> I don't see anything in lspci?
[07:44] <geirha> LittleFool: You'll need to take care that the files retain their ownership and permission bits after the copy
[07:45] <LittleFool> geirha: ow yea...i have to find out how to mount a drive in kvm before anyway dont want to create a huge img file
[07:45] <Stanley00> Xethron: use dmesg and lsusb  (in case it use USB interface)
[07:46] <somsip> LittleFool: and rename your old /var so you don't get dead, inaccesible files overwritten by teh new mount
[07:47] <geirha> somsip: they won't be
[07:47] <somsip> geirha: if a filesystem gets mounted on an existing dir with files in, the existing files are inaccessible. I had this the other week when I messed up a /boot move
[07:48] <geirha> somsip: yes, which is why he should set it up in the live session
[07:49] <geirha> there's likely be lots of open file handles in /var when the system is running, so it would be really tricky to pull it off without a reboot
[07:49] <somsip> geirha: if he's never had a /var before, then fair enough. If he has an existing /var, any contents will be inaccessible. It's just dead drive space
[07:49] <Xethron> Stanley00: its a built in modem...
[07:50] <RawgerNice> wake up big baby
[07:50] <Stanley00> Xethron: then you can try "dmesg | grep -i modem"
[07:51] <geirha> somsip: that's irrelevant as long as it's done while the system isn't running
[07:51] <somsip> geirha: maybe we're talking at cross purposes. this exaplins what I mean. It may, or may not, be relevant to LittleFool http://superuser.com/questions/200685/what-does-linux-do-with-existing-files-in-a-mount-point
[07:51] <Xethron> Stanley00: Nothing :/
[07:52] <Xethron> Stanley00: Its a laptop with a built in 3G modem. No idea what type it is though
[07:53] <sword_hacker> how to use translate text
[07:54] <geirha> somsip: that's what we're talking about. I suggested he keep both /var/s until he could test that the new one is working as expected; then remove the old one.
[07:54] <Xethron> Stanley00: In lspci, i get this: 03:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5289 (rev 01)
[07:54] <geirha> the last part can be done while the system is running though
[07:54] <Xethron> not sure what that is
[07:55] <somsip> geirha: agreed. He can just delete if if he renames it. Otherwise he has to boot to livecd again...
[07:55] <sword_hacker> 有没有中国人！
[07:55] <bimwook> ÓÐ
[07:55] <somsip> !zh | sword_hacker
[07:55] <geirha> somsip: No, you just temporarily mount the root filesystem at another location, delete from there, then unmount
[07:56] <Stanley00> Xethron: I have no idea either
[07:57] <Stanley00> Xethron: it looks like some kind of a card reader
[07:57] <Treaver> Hey guys, I tried to fix the GRaphics but changed it to Expermintal now it won't show compiz. I need to know how to open software sources from command line
[07:57] <Treaver> Stanley How do I open software sources from command
[07:57] <Stanley00> Treaver: oops. just a minute
[07:58] <Stanley00> Treaver: try this command "software-properties-gtk"
[07:58] <milo_> :>
[07:58] <milo_> why need 3 flood bots?
[07:58] <Treaver> Thanks (;
[07:59] <Treaver> I gonna try the last Pro driver I haven't  use
[07:59] <Stanley00> Treaver: goodluck, but maybe you should try reset unity with each driver first
[08:00] <Treaver> No clue on how to do that
[08:00] <Stanley00> Treaver: unity usually crash when install new grphic driver and need to reset every time
[08:01] <Treaver> :P
[08:01] <Stanley00> Treaver: with quantal, you can try "dconf reset -f /org/compiz/" and then "setsid unity"
[08:01] <Treaver> Ok this one is applying changes
[08:01] <__\b__> >.>
[08:01] <Treaver> Can you tell me how to restart with command
[08:02] <Stanley00> Treaver: maybe "sudo reboot"
[08:02] <somsip> Treaver: sudo shutdown -r now
[08:02] <Treaver> Also how come my mouse and keyboard quit working all the time?
[08:02] <Treaver> It just stops completely
[08:03] <Xethron> Stanley00: ah, yeah, its a card reader :/
[08:04] <Xethron> so that means that Linux doesn't pick up the 3G card?
[08:05] <Treaver> The only driver that works is the Open Source one and when my computer starts up it starts in a black screen and I gotta press one of the fs to show screen
[08:06] <Xethron> Stanley00: would it help if I open up my laptop and get the name of the card?
[08:06] <Stanley00> Treaver: hmm, I know this issue, you can add "acpi_backlight=vendor" to the kernel when booting, and it's gone
[08:07] <Stanley00> Xethron: well, it may. but how about look up the name in the spec of your laptop?
[08:07] <Treaver> How do I do that
[08:08] <Treaver> Can you do it for me
[08:08] <Xethron> hehe, ok, lemme try that
[08:09] <Stanley00> Treaver: edit the file /etc/default/grub, change to this line *GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi_osi=linux acpi_backlight=vendor"* and then run "sudo update-grub"
[08:10] <Treaver> So wait
[08:10] <Treaver> I've messed with grub before and it fucked my computer up. CAn you plzzz to it :p
[08:12] <Stanley00> Treaver: it's not too hard. you can do it, dude
[08:12] <Treaver> I think I got it
[08:12] <Treaver> So it should say :
[08:13] <Treaver> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet acpi_osi=linux acpi_backlight=vendor" exactly right?
[08:13] <Stanley00> yep
[08:13] <Stanley00> I must go now, see you later
[08:13] <Treaver> oh wait
[08:14] <Treaver> How do I put grub into effect again?
[08:14] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone.
[08:14] <Ray2> sudo update-grub
[08:15] <Ray2> treaver ^^
[08:16] <Treaver> Thanks
[08:16] <rufsketch1> I'm having a weird issue with my connection. I'm sharing connection from my mac via ethernet cable to my PC. It was working fine for a while, and then stopped completely. It works in windows. I think the issue maybe started after I rebooted after using cisco any connect (vpn client) in linux.
[08:16] <rufsketch1> I uninstalled in linux, but no luck
[08:17] <rufsketch1> I'm assigned a local IP address btw <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:17] <rufsketch1> err
[08:17] <rufsketch1> rather
[08:17] <bluenemo> hi guys, in ubuntu 12, how can i disable that windows (mod4) p switches my screen layout? i'm unsing xmonad & gnome-session to manage the screens, however i need windows p for something else
[08:17] <Treaver> That didn't work :(
[08:17] <rufsketch1> it recognizes that as the ip address of the "router" I'm connected to
[08:17] <Treaver> Does anyone know how to fix the black screen on boot? :O
[08:18] <Ray2> treaver Are you dual booting
[08:18] <Treaver> No I'm not
[08:19] <Treaver> It boots to this blackscreen and I have to press Esc or F1 to show something on the computer. Then I have to press it again to show the GUI
[08:19] <Ray2> Treaver, You will not have a grub display unless you are dual bootin
[08:19] <rufsketch1> actually, I'm not sure if it's supposed to be my IP adress or the "router"'s (ma
[08:19] <rufsketch1> (mac's)
[08:20] <Treaver> Ray2 I have the security key thing on my harddrive
[08:20] <Treaver> I have to press those buttons twice to show the password entree area
[08:21] <rufsketch1> ah, okay. It's my adress
[08:21] <rufsketch1> I can ssh from my mac to my linux box apparently
[08:21] <rufsketch1> on LAN
[08:24] <aneek> Hi all, when I am logon on normal user account and open firefox its showing your firefox profile is missing i am able to access firefox with other account i have tried uninstall and reinstall firefox , but issue is still remain
[08:25] <rufsketch1> can anyone help? I'm limited to LAN on my linux box
[08:25] <rufsketch1> no WAN
[08:26] <rufsketch1> WAN works in windows on same box.
[08:26] <rufsketch1> WAN used to work. Stopped at some point. Not entirely sure when. Might have to do with cisco anyconnect vpn client.
[08:30] <mhr> Hello everyone
[08:32] <vlt> lasvlt 5
[08:33] <vlt> nm
[08:33] <SilvereX> Hey
[08:33] <SilvereX> Anybody know why my desktop cursor won't disappear when playing farcry2?
[08:33] <SilvereX> It's stuck in the middle of the screen and jumps back every time I move it
[08:34] <somsip> SilvereX: how are you playing farcry2 on ubuntu?
[08:34] <SilvereX> bought it off gog.com
[08:34] <SilvereX> and used the playonlinux installation script
[08:34] <somsip> SilvereX: and where does ubuntu come into this?
[08:35] <somsip> SilvereX: ah - lagggg
[08:35] <rufsketch1> can anyone help me figure out why I can't connect to WAN?
[08:35] <rufsketch1> I'm limited to LAN only.
[08:35] <mhr> I have a bash script which downloads a zip file, using "expect script" file, from remote machine connected via vpn. After download it extracts the contents and adds new contents and again compresses to create new zip file. When I run the script from terminal, it works fine. but when I use cron to execute same It does not work. Please help.
[08:35] <rufsketch1> Or at least point me in the right direction to trouble shoot this
[08:36] <Ray2> http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it....Treaver have you tried this fix
[08:36] <somsip> SilvereX: it's a bit specialist. If you don't get an answer here, you may need the playonlinux support @playonlinux
[08:36] <Treaver> Rufsketch1 | Use Google Chrome it will benefit you a lot more.
[08:36] <somsip> mhr: do you use any environmental variables in the script?
[08:36] <rufsketch1> Treaver: how does that have anything to do with lack of a WAN connection?
[08:37] <somsip> SilvereX: sorry - just saw my typo - #playonlinux
[08:37] <Treaver> Oops
[08:37] <mhr> somsip: environment var like?
[08:37] <Treaver> That was to a different person ;p
[08:37] <somsip> mhr: $HOME or that sort of thing
[08:38] <Treaver> Umm quick question my mouse and everything keeps stopping working
[08:38] <somsip> mhr: or even ~ to resolve to home directory
[08:38] <mhr> somsip, no
[08:38] <llutz> mhr: try calling all binaries with full pathes in your script
[08:39] <somsip> mhr: you could pastebin your bash script maybe?
[08:39] <mhr> llutz, i am using full paths
[08:39] <timthoono> hey
[08:40] <llutz> mhr: what fails when using cron? does it run at all, does it just misbehave? some details would be helpful
[08:41] <geirha> mhr: better to set PATH than using full paths though, but redirect all output from your cronjob to a file and see what it fails on. 1 2 * * * thescript >/tmp/thescriptoutput 2>&1
[08:42] <Treaver> Can anyone help me fix my Mouse and Keyboard issue? Mouse and Keyboard just randomly stop working
[08:42] <mhr> llutz, everything other than unzipping and zipping fails
[08:43] <ardchoille> mhr: Please pastebin your script, that will provide more info to help you
[08:43] <sword_> 中
[08:44] <mhr> This is the error from cron to a file : zip warning: name not matched: data-3..0 zip error: Nothing to do! (try: zip -Dr9 data-3.0.zip . -i data-3.0)
[08:44] <rufsketch1> Treaver: what do you mean by randomly stop working?
[08:45] <Treaver> My mouse and keyboard stop funcitoning. Like completely stop and can't use them
[08:45] <ardchoille> mhr: and you say the script works fine when run manually but fails when in a cronjob?
[08:45] <mhr> can the permission for the directory cause problem?
[08:45] <mhr> ardchoille, yes it works manually
[08:45] <geirha> mhr: sounds like the files you want to add are not in the directory you expect
[08:46] <tje2> Anyone willing to work with me for a bit on locating the appropriate drivers for my on-board Broadcom wifi card?    Def clue enabled, just not sure what driver as all of the stuff I've found on Google has served only to confuse me.
[08:46] <tje2> Able to provide output from  lshw, lspci, dmesg, lsmod, etc via pastebin to anyone interested.
[08:46] <shopper_biter> holla
[08:46] <ThinkT510> !b43 | tje2
[08:48] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..   I'm not entirely sure that's what I'm looking for, but I'd be glad to take a look.
[08:48] <tje2> Thanks for the URL.
[08:50] <chris_> hey guys, how do you do an ipconfig in linux??
[08:50] <LittleFool> Im trying to copy my /var to another disk with a live cd but i cant mount my old / partition. i got sda2 as extended and sda5 as linux lvm
[08:50] <llutz> chris_: ip or ifconfig
[08:50] <chris_> llutz, both is possible
[08:51] <chris_> llutz, thats okay worked it out :D right clicked my internet logo and selected info
[08:51] <chris_> llutz, thank you for the help!!
[08:52] <domohawk> Hello #ubuntu, I have a question about how to get a broken package version in ubuntu reverted in mainline
[08:55] <domohawk> The "lv2fil" package was updated prematurely to a git snapshot that is broken. I filed LP bug 907960 many months ago to revert to the official release, but have gotten no traction
[08:55] <domohawk> any adivice please?
[08:55] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..  Having a little trouble finding the exact model of BCM that I have; I think that's been a big part of my problem.
[08:55] <ThinkT510> tje2: what does lspci say?
[08:55] <tje2> This is all I get back from "lspci -vvnn": 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:4365] (rev 01)
[08:56] <tje2> That's where I looked.  ;)  According to the docs you provided, of course.    heh
[08:56] <tje2> It's a brand new Dell Inspiron 17R, but the docs have been sparse on real technical detail
[08:56] <ThinkT510> tje2: can you pastebin all of lspci?
[08:57] <tje2> ThinkT510,   Gladly.   Just a sec, please.
[08:58] <mhr> Hello everyone, sorry for not replying for long. Here is the pastebin : http://pastebin.com/ek3MNZSs
[08:59] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..  Here's the pastebin:      http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267119/
[08:59] <mhr> llutz, http://pastebin.com/ek3MNZSs is the script
[08:59] <tje2> It'll be the second from the last.
[08:59] <llutz> mhr: don't use "./something" in cronscripts
[09:00] <llutz> mhr: what crontab did you add this to?
[09:01] <mhr> llutz, as i have already cd into the directory, can't I use ./something?
[09:01] <Grievre> Is anyone itc familiar with ubuntu's initrd?
[09:01] <geirha> mhr: don't do GREP=`which grep` etc. That's completely pointless
[09:02] <ThinkT510> tje2: after a duckduckgo search it looks like there are no linux drivers for that broadcom chip
[09:02] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..   hahaha.... That figures.   Were you able to determine what the chipset is at least?
[09:02] <ThinkT510> tje2: if you really want to use it you may need to use ndiswrappre
[09:02] <tje2> I figure I can keep an eye out for support for that chip.
[09:02] <geirha> mhr: And always test the exit status of cd. In your case. cd /root/Test/ || exit    especially when one of the following commands is an rm
[09:03] <mhr> */5 * * * * /root/Test/create-final-file >> /root/Test/cronOutput
[09:03] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..  Yeah, I wanted to at least try that, but I've got x86_64 Linux and I have no idea where to find the appropriate drivers for Win to try with ndiswrapper.
[09:03] <geirha> mhr: append 2>&1 at the end there so we also see the error output
[09:04] <ThinkT510> tje2: well, sorry i can't help further, i avoid broadcom like the plague for wifi
[09:04] <chris_> Hey Ubuntu people! Does anyone have a recomendation for a firewall to use on ubuntu 12.04? Low maintaince and easy to set up? and will work with most apps (ie nicotine?)
[09:04] <mhr> geirha, ok
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> howto uninstall privacy icon (zeitgeist)
[09:04] <somsip> !ufw | chris_
[09:04] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..   Yeah, def not my first choice either (using 2 diff NetGear USB-based dongles currently), but for the price of this laptop and the rest of the specs, I just couldn't pass  it up.
[09:05] <mhr> actually the file after being downloaded should be there in the directory, but I can not see it.
[09:05] <tje2> ThinkT510 .. I ended up w/ this Dell for right about $700;  4 x 2.5 Ghz Intel Core i5, 8 GB RAM, and 1TB hard drive,  17.3" viewable screen, etc.
[09:05] <chris_> !cookie |  sonsip
[09:05] <llutz>  mhr what crontab are you using? users or root?
[09:05] <chris_> somsip, Thanks :D
[09:06] <geirha> mhr: Then possibly the cd command failed
[09:06] <somsip> chris_: you're welcome
[09:06] <ThinkT510> tje2: intel graphics too?
[09:06] <tje2> Don't you know it!
[09:06] <tje2> haha
[09:06] <tje2> I don't much care about that...   As long as it'll run at least 1280x1024 or so in 24-bit color or better, that's all I need.   I wouldn't dare waste CPU cycles gaming on a PC.
[09:06] <mhr> llutz, in terminal logged as root i use "EDITOR=vi crontab -e" to edit
[09:07] <tje2> strictly for coding, compiling, hacking, etc.
[09:07] <PaSsI> how to uninstall any software that was not included in software manager?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> howto remove zeitgeist service to not log history
[09:07] <ThinkT510> tje2: ivy bridge is very new, you may need to use 12.10 when it comes out (3.5 kernel)
[09:07] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..  Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention the kernel.    I've been rolling my own on this box since basically Day One.    I just compiled and booted 3.5.6 about 2 hours ago.
[09:08] <abbas__> guys
[09:08] <abbas__> is tinyproxy slow by default? or is it just me?
[09:08] <tje2> I had 3.5.3, then 3.5.5, now 3.5.6....all largely trying to get this damn wireless to work.
[09:08] <mhr> in the pastebin i have used another expect script to download the zip file
[09:08] <abbas__> it looks like my TV gets like only 50k/bytes sec, on my 450 kB line
[09:08] <mhr> can it be the problem?
[09:09] <ThinkT510> tje2: if you can replace it
[09:09] <tje2> abbas__,  So you're saying that you're pulling about 50 KiloBYTES/sec on your 450 KiloBIT/sec connection?
[09:09] <geirha> mhr: Possibly. The error output should help identify the problem ...
[09:09] <BlueWolf> Hi, I am installing ubuntu 12.04 alongside windows 7. I have two hard disk and I want one to have Ubuntu and the other to have Windows. I am ath the partitioning stage and when I click to install Ubuntu on the other hard disk to
[09:09] <tje2> mhr ..  You're debugging a shell script, right?
[09:09] <BlueWolf> Windows it's saying this - No root file system is defined - What does this mean and how do I continue with the installation?
[09:09] <abbas__> tje2
[09:09] <red> I've upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 some months ago and the "window raise" or whatever its called functionality seems to have gotten bugged for me (or changed in this version). When I click a window that is behind another window, it will be activated, but not brought to front - unless I click the title bar of the window.
[09:10] <red> How do I change this to "normal"?
[09:10] <abbas__> yeah my tv tries to stream via tiny proxy, but it seems its getting VERY slow speeds
[09:10] <tje2> abbas__,   That sounds like perfectly appropriate speeds for a 450 kbit/sec pipe.   I'd expect between 45KB/sec - 50KB/sec due to the size of the connection itself, not latency introduced by an extra hop (such as the proxy).
[09:11] <mhr> tje2, debugging? I din't get you. How to do that?
[09:11] <abbas__> tje2, my ubuntu tinyproxy has a 450 kBytes/sec line
[09:11] <abbas__> and its maxed out if i use broser/steam on ubutnu
[09:11] <tje2> mhr ..   You're trying to alleviate a bug in a shell script, yes?
[09:11] <abbas__> but the tv gets lke only 20% of that, even when all bandwidth is idle
[09:11] <red> If I tweak "window focus mode" to mouse, it will raise whatever I mouseover, click mode will only work for the title bars and "sloppy" works exactly the same as "mouse"
[09:12] <tje2> abbas__,   I don't think so.   Based on the numbers you've provided (at least since I've been in-channel) look totally normal to me.
[09:12] <mhr> tje2, yes I want the shell script to work from cron too as it works running from terminal manually.
[09:12] <abbas__> tje2, shouldnt the proxy be taking use of the full bandwidth? the tv is getting on 50kBytes/sec of teh 450kBytes/sec proxy bandwidth
[09:12] <somsip> mhr: is this pastebin the most recent copy of the script? http://pastebin.com/ek3MNZSs
[09:13] <tje2> mhr ..  Oh, OK, you're fixing a different issue than I realized....   Not real familiar w/ the cron aspect of it, sorry.
[09:13] <mhr> yes
[09:13] <PaSsI> how to remove the softwares which were not installed from software manager?
[09:13] <mhr> somsip, yes
[09:13] <somsip> mhr: you said you'd replaced all relative paths with absolute paths?
[09:14] <theplanet> what are backports
[09:14] <ThinkT510> !backports | theplanet
[09:15] <tje2> somsip ..  Just a guess here, but I have a strong suspicion that something in that script of mhr's is freaking out because it doesn't have a controlling tty/terminal device.   Or it may call something that expects input from the user, at which case, it would likely hang indefinitely if ran from crond(8).
[09:15] <mhr> somsip, relative paths of the executable commands like zip and unzip
[09:15] <BlueWolf> Hi, I am installing ubuntu 12.04 alongside windows 7. I have two hard disk and I want one to have Ubuntu and the other to have Windows. I am at the partitioning stage and when I click to install Ubuntu on the other
[09:15] <BlueWolf> Hard Disk to Windows it's saying this - No root file system is defined - What does this mean and how do I continue with the installation?
[09:15] <somsip> mhr: so in download-data-zip() you use "./auto_SCP.sh root@x.x.x.x:/home/name/data/data-3.0.zip ./" This does not look like a relative path/ Or am I missing something
[09:16] <LorSamPau_w> BlueWolf, did you set mount point?
[09:17] <mhr> somsip, so you mean i should change that relative path too? ok let me try with absolute path
[09:17] <BlueWolf> LorSamPau_w: Ok what do you mean by the mount point?
[09:17] <llutz> mhr: you said the zipfile is missing, so it's most likely "auto_SCP.sh" failing in a cronjob
[09:17] <mhr> tje2, yes i am using expect script to automatically provide password when asked
[09:17] <somsip> mhr: that was just the first example. create-new-data-zip() has loads too, eg: $RM ./data-3.0/abc/file1
[09:17] <geirha> absolute vs relative paths really isn't the problem, it's more likely the lack of error handling. Error output should give some better clues
[09:17] <rufsketch1> okay
[09:17] <tje2> mhr ..  OK, that may have something to do with it....
[09:18] <rufsketch1> so it looks like I do indeed have WAN acess
[09:18] <rufsketch1> but no DNS
[09:18] <LorSamPau_w> BlueWolf, http://www.basicconfig.com/files/content/manual_partition_ubuntu07.preview.png
[09:18] <tje2> geirha ..  Agreed.  I think they're just cleaning up the script to make it readable enough to debug.   ;)
[09:18] <somsip> mhr: and as geirha says, you should check for the existence of files before performing operationsa on them at least
[09:18] <mhr> ok i will change all relative paths to absolute
[09:18] <geirha> mhr: any reason why you don't just use keys instead of doing crazy hacks with expect?
[09:18] <LorSamPau_w> BlueWolf, there is mount point... without setting it install will not start
[09:18] <rufsketch1> or at least, whatever DNS linux is attempting to use, isn't working. How can I figure out what DNS it's attempting to use? Is there any way other than to look at /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:18] <geirha> somsip: not really what I meant
[09:19] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   Nope, that file is THE place that you specify your DNS servers.
[09:19] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   I can likely help you w/ the DNS issues....
[09:19] <mhr> I want the script to automate a task and run everyday rather than manually.
[09:19] <rufsketch1> tje2: I would appreciate that
[09:19] <BlueWolf> LorSamPau_w: Ok now I have sda and sdb - I want to install on sdb as windows is already installed on sda?
[09:19] <somsip> mhr: I correct. And as geirha says, you need some error handling. Such as checking for the existence of files before performing operations on them
[09:20] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   Mind giving me a pastebin of your /etc/resolv.conf file real quick?
[09:20] <LorSamPau_w> BlueWolf, select device that you want ubuntu to install to(sdb) and set it's mount point to "/"
[09:20] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  actually, if you can't resolve pastebin.net or whatever, you can privmsg the file details to me so we can get started.
[09:20] <mhr> somsip, ok. I will check that as well.
[09:20] <rufsketch1> tje2: see, I wasn't sure if it was THE place. because the gui network management tool allows me to specify a different DNS server. But it doesn't modify the resolv.conf log. And the sylog seems to show that the network initializes with the dns server i specify in that gui
[09:20] <geirha> somsip: Not really any point in checking for file existance. Checking whether important commands succeed or not, however ...
[09:20] <somsip> mhr: ahhh. I just saw the cd in main. I understand why the others say relatives paths are not an issue. Big mistake on my part. sorry
[09:21] <rufsketch1> tje2: could you just get me the IP address of pastebin?
[09:21] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  I'm not 100% sure on this (I still do most of my Linux networking the manual way), but I believe that *all* of those GUI tools for network management are just front-ends that call stuff like ifconfig, iwconfig, and modify your resolv.conf
[09:22] <llutz> mhr:  [11:05:28] <mhr> actually the file after being downloaded should be there in the directory, but I can not see it.  <--- check your "auto_SCP.sh" twice
[09:22] <rufsketch1> tje2: ah. Well, this appears not to modify resolv.conf
[09:22] <geirha> mhr: Anyway, for the nth time, redirect stderr to the some file so we can see what error messages it gives
[09:22] <llutz> mhr: but as geirha said, better to use ssh-keys with forced commands
[09:22] <rufsketch1> tje2: in any case I will get you the paste. Just a sec. Will have to ssh
[09:22] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   paste.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>.           If those tools *don't* modify your resolv.conf, then they're not actually causing your DNS settings to change.   :)
[09:22] <tje2> OK, sure.
[09:22] <rufsketch1> tje2: yeah, but my syslog claims they are
[09:23] <tje2> hmm, OK.
[09:23] <tje2> I'll have to see the details to really say anything further.
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> is ubuntu safe for the Volume boot record rootkit?
[09:23] <BlueWolf> LorSamPau_w: Ok hold on there :D. I have found out how to do the partitions and stuff, can I just make one big partition for Ubuntu (using the whole hard drive) Do I need to specify where Grub is to be installed
[09:23] <rufsketch1> tje2: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:23] <BlueWolf> Whats the process?
[09:23] <mhr> geirha, ok i am now getting error messages from cron. and it is while copying new files.
[09:24] <rufsketch1> tje2: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:24] <rufsketch1> tje2: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:24] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: what do you mean by that?
[09:24] <rufsketch1> err, in reverse order, because I can't enter two lines at once apparently
[09:24] <mhr> so possible auto_SCP script is not able to save the file is the directory through cron?
[09:24] <rufsketch1> tje2: that is the full length of my resolv.conf.
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:ive just read up new rootkit spreading, infecting the volume boot record (mbr) bypassing classic antivirus software
[09:25] <geirha> mhr: Hard to say without knowing what it tries to do exactly
[09:25] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  Can you ping either of those 2 IPs listed?   It looks like you've got a proper config.
[09:25] <somsip> mhr: previous comments about environmental variables and relatives paths apply to auto_SCP.sh too
[09:25] <krababbel> BlueWolf: you have more than one hdd?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:so i was wondering if ubuntu would be safe for such infection...
[09:26] <passi> how to uninstall draftsight ??
[09:26] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  I bet if you commented those 2 out, and added one line stating "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>", save file,  then you'll likely be good to go.
[09:26] <BlueWolf>
[09:26] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Yes,  and I wnat to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a separate Hard Drive to the windows
[09:26] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: never heard of it, i've never had a rootkit
[09:26] <rufsketch1> tje2: pinging either gets no response
[09:27] <rufsketch1> however, pinging <IP_ADDRESS> responds in the 100ms range
[09:27] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  Sounds like they're either unreachable, not running a DNS daemon, or you're being restricted (firewall and the like) from these servers.
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:http://blog.eset.com/2011/10/18/tdl4-rebooted
[09:27] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: the obvious question is how does it spread?
[09:27] <rufsketch1> tje2: this is possible. Before continuing, I should explain the current setup.
[09:27] <tje2> I suspect if you comment those out (so it doesn't have to timeout waiting for them) and add that one "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" line, you'll probably be alright.
[09:28] <rufsketch1> tje2: okay, I will try that first
[09:28] <rufsketch1> comment symbol for conf files is #, right?
[09:28] <ardchoille> lotuspsychje: you realize that article is a year old, right?
[09:28] <krababbel> BlueWolf: when you partition the drive in setup, remember its name, like "sdb", then see that grub is installed to the same name, but not "sdb1", no numbers. "sdb1" is a partition on "sdb". grub installing on just "sdb" means it goes to the MBR of "sdb". Also in bios you should have the boot order boot from the ubuntu drive first after setup.
[09:28] <mhr> somsip geirha llutz : here is the expect script : http://pastebin.com/EeFYTNqR
[09:28] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: as usual it looks windows specific
[09:29] <mhr> auto_SCP script http://pastebin.com/EeFYTNqR
[09:29] <tje2> rufsketch1,   yeah, that'll work in that conf file.
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> ardchoille:i know but just readed another recent article, about it infected like 250.000 computers
[09:29] <rufsketch1> tje2: your bet was a winner!
[09:29] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: this really isn't a support issue
[09:29] <rufsketch1> so, want to explain to me what's going on?
[09:30] <aneek_> hi i am facing an issue with firefox error is "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible." please any one have any idia
[09:30] <himanshu_linux> hi
[09:30] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   I'm guessing that you don't admin the boxes that are listed in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:30] <geirha> mhr: the interact at the end might be expecting a terminal
[09:30] <geirha> I don't know expect that well
[09:30] <ardchoille> lotuspsychje: the weakest link in the security chain of any computer is the user, it's always best to understand how a system works and follow advice given by veterans.
[09:30] <rufsketch1> tje2: I do. However. I recently installed cisco vpn anyconnect
[09:30] <himanshu_linux> where can i get a better css script for "dwwww"
[09:30] <himanshu_linux> ?
[09:30] <rufsketch1> I imagine perhaps it modified my resolv.cnf
[09:30] <rufsketch1> and did not unmodify after uninstall
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:just wondered about ubuntu's safety for specific intrusions like this
[09:30] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  Ahh, OK, I bet you can only reach those servers via the VPN, but UNTIL you establish the VPN tunnel, they're unreachable.
[09:31] <rufsketch1> this is what I suspected
[09:31] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok so do I just make one big partition on sdb (The whole drive) or should I physically make a swap partition?
[09:31] <rufsketch1> thank you for your help!
[09:31] <abbas__> is there a 'minimize all windows' command for ubuntu? like windowkey+d in win7
[09:31] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   I'd leave the <IP_ADDRESS> (an open-resolving, free DNS server provided by Google) line FIRST, then uncomment the existing two lines BELOW it.
[09:31] <mhr> geirha, oh ok, i got the script from google.
[09:31] <tje2> No problemo.    Take it easy.
[09:31] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: how do you get infected with a rootkit? answer that question and you'll know whether or not you are vulnerable
[09:31] <geirha> mhr: Really really onsider using public key authentication instead.
[09:31] <rufsketch1> tje2: okay. thank you!
[09:31] <geirha> *consider
[09:31] <llutz> mhr: go for ssh-keys, set PermitRootLogin=forced-commands-only , create a key without passphrase, modify it to just run the command you need for the copy and drop this sxpect....
[09:32] <Ray2> krababbel If he's running two hdd then should not the grub go to the windows mbr
[09:32] <aneek_> iYour Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible. any one have solution for this
[09:32] <krababbel> BlueWolf: swap partition should be the most easy setup, there are swap files too. you need a bit more swap than ram if you want to use hibernation. Unless you have a 20GB hdd here, just put a partition there, you won't notice it. :)
[09:32] <ritz> hi, How do I build a dbg package, or a debian package with dh_strip turned off ?
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> ok nvm ill search myself
[09:33] <krababbel> Ray2: yes, that's why I wrote he should install grub to the same drive where ubuntu is.
[09:33] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i have already told you the answer, as has ardchoille
[09:33] <pr0ton> does anybody use this - "Acer Aspire V5-571-6869" ?
[09:33] <pr0ton> any issues with ubuntu?
[09:33] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Well the Hard Drive is a 120GB so should I put a Swap? What do I name it etc?
[09:34] <ritz> nm, found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk3-engines-unico/+bug/920840
[09:34] <geirha> mhr: your bash script is using a lot of bad practices btw. The kind of bad things you learn from the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide. See /topic #bash  for some better resources and help in writing more robust scripts.
[09:36] <krababbel> BlueWolf: in setup you can partition and choose as filesystem swap, no name needed. You may shrink the windows partition and put a swap behind it on the windows hdd, if that one is bigger. Or just live with swap on 120GB space, I have windows7 and ubuntu on a 120GB with swap too.
[09:36] <krababbel> BlueWolf: shrink the windows partition in windows, if you have windows7 it is easy
[09:39] <mhr> geirha, can you please point some, so that I can improve the script.
[09:39] <krababbel> BlueWolf: I have 70GB windows, 30GB ubuntu, 16.5GB swap for ubuntu as I have 16GB RAM and use hibernation a lot.
[09:39] <krababbel> BlueWolf: and ubuntu is basically empty, my media files are on my older big HDD.
[09:40] <geirha> mhr: point out some weaknesses of the script you mean?
[09:40] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok Sorry I am battling to understand what to do or explain it, Give me a moment :)
[09:41] <krababbel> no problem, I should've written all that in one piece
[09:41] <mhr> geirha, yeah. Some that i now got is to use absolute paths.
[09:41] <BlueWolf> krababbel: http://www.basicconfig.com/files/content/manual_partition_ubuntu07.preview.png
[09:41] <geirha> mhr: That's not really good advice
[09:42] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Should I do my partitioning similar to that?
[09:42] <geirha> mhr: Anyway /join #bash  and I'll trigger some factoids for you
[09:42] <gazzwi86> hi all
[09:42] <gazzwi86> I'm setting up a LAMP server.  This is my purposed set up: https://gist.github.com/3851707  Does anyone have any suggestions / improvements I should maybe consider?
[09:43] <krababbel> BlueWolf: well just remove the partitions and create new ones in different sizes? Is that what you are asking?
[09:43] <blackshirt> what do you need?
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> gazzwi86  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:44] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Um I think, Basically when I try install it's saying this - No root file system is defined - So what do I do?
[09:44] <krababbel> BlueWolf: yes, just leave no free space :), also in that picture you would note that you'd install grub to "sda"
[09:45] <krababbel> BlueWolf: the root filesystem is a partition with mount point "/". you need at least that one, and you should have a swap too. Some separate /home into another partition too. I don't bother.
[09:46] <gazzwi86> monkey-dust: cheers
[09:47] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok sorry to be annoying, Firstly Can I just use the whole free space for the Ubuntu install or must I make partitions or will ubuntu do it atamatically? And how would I install grub to the sda?
[09:48] <MonkeyDust>  BlueWolf load the live cd, us gparted to create partitions, the installer formats them
[09:50] <Ray2> BlueWolf, http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/
[09:50] <krababbel> BlueWolf: Installing grub is a late step, it presents you a suggested path like "/dev/sda" I think. If you set bios to boot from the second HDD first before setup, you shouldn't have to change anything, it should autodetect fine. In any case, installing grub to the wrong drive is always fixable.
[09:51] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Do I have to manually partition the Ubuntu partitions or will it do it atomatically?
[09:51] <krababbel> BlueWolf: setup can do it automatically too
[09:52] <krababbel> don't know how it looks for hibernation compatibility and uses enough swap even with a lot of ram, but you can resize later too
[09:52] <BlueWolf>
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  my advice : do it manually, so you know what it is and what happens -- partitioning is the hardest part, it kept me from using linux years ago
[09:52] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok so I just get rid of the free space by making one big partition and then let Ubuntu do the rest? :)
[09:53] <vicwu> 我看到了中式英语。。呵呵
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[09:54] <krababbel> BlueWolf: I'd do it manually, you can do it from within setup too, if you choose manual partitioning. automatic can either delete all partitions, or reuse existing ones, depending on what you select.
[09:54] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Sorry I am just struggling to understand How and what to do, a break in communication. It just seems that 10.04 is easier to install than 12.04?
[09:54] <krababbel> BlueWolf: or maybe try installing ubuntu in windows in Virtualbox first, to see how it works.
[09:54] <Ray2> BlueWolf, Check the link I sent you it is a graphical how to
[09:54] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: it's not any easier or harder
[09:55] <abbas__> guys, i've a file on desktop but i cant edit it (it says im not owner of it). how do ic hanges its permissions to let me edit it
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  no, the installer is the same, it's the number of partitions that makes it look hard, i advice a separate /home
[09:56] <BlueWolf> krababbel: MonkeyDust: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/
[09:56] <vicwu> hehe
[09:56] <BlueWolf> krababbel: MonkeyDust: Thats where I am the bottom picture
[09:56] <BlueWolf> the last one
[09:57] <krababbel> BlueWolf: so there you have all you need in one screen then
[09:58] <BlueWolf> krababbel: MonkeyDust: Ok so do I just click add then after that install?
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> it looks to me, the illustration makes it more complicated than it is
[09:59] <krababbel> BlueWolf: yes, the boot loader option at the bottom is the grub location
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[10:00] <FloodBot1> abmares: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:00] <krababbel> BlueWolf: so i guess your 120GB is called sdb. I'd install grub to sdb and set bios to boot from that drive too. So you don't overwrite the windows boot loader on sda
[10:00] <diverdude> How do i recursively copy content of a directory including hidden files like .htaccess and .git etc. to another directory? cp * -R target dest does not copy the .files
[10:01] <HTDutchy> abmares: go back the the islam channel you belong to, im not interested in religion im here for ubuntu
[10:01] <BlueWolf> krababbel: MonkeyDust: Ok so I just continue with the installation and leave the device for boot loader installation on sdb not sda?
[10:01] <PaSsI> which is the most stable version of wine?
[10:02] <kaste> hey, i have a bit of trouble with amarok and pulse. I can't get any sound out of it, likely because it tries to send the output to the HDMI instead of the normal ac97. I configure it otherwise but everytime i open up the dialog it changed back
[10:02] <krababbel> BlueWolf: what are sda and sdb? which drives?
[10:02] <blackshirt> abmares: hey, this is not a place for that
[10:03] <HTDutchy> and now he pms me... really want the face stabbing over ipv4 now
[10:03] <BlueWolf>
[10:03] <BlueWolf> krababbel: sda - Windows 7 (which is installed) -   sdb - Where I want Ubuntu 12.04 to go
[10:03] <krababbel> BlueWolf: ok then use sdb, yes
[10:03] <kaste> Any advice?
[10:03] <BlueWolf>
[10:03] <BlueWolf> krababbel: For the boot loader right?
[10:03] <BlueWolf> :)
[10:04] <krababbel> yes :)
[10:04] <glah> www.goo.gl/6JzgL MOther in the dream welcome!
[10:04] <krababbel> BlueWolf: just don't forget to setup bios to boot from that drive first too
[10:04] <krababbel> or you won't see ubuntu after reboot
[10:05] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok and as for the free space of 120GB I can just use it all? Where does 10.04 put the boot installation on a dual boot?
[10:05] <BlueWolf> krababbel: " just don't forget to setup bios to boot from that drive first too" How?
[10:06] <dr_willis> in the bios settings when you first power up
[10:06] <BlueWolf> krababbel: What if I set the boot installation on sda, what will happen?
[10:07] <krababbel> BlueWolf: it will overwrite the boot loader of windows, no concern for you actually, also you won't need to setup bios
[10:07] <leotr> hi! how do i get xorg.conf?
[10:08] <leotr> i want to save configuratioin info of X server and save it to file
[10:08] <krababbel> BlueWolf: each drive has its own space for one boot loader, the MBR.
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> !xorgconf| leotr
[10:08] <BlueWolf> krababbel: So why is it a problem to do it over the windows boot loader, will it affect windows in anyway?
[10:08] <HTDutchy> leotr: ubuntu doesnt have a xorg.conf by default
[10:09] <leotr> i know, but i want to create it
[10:09] <leotr> it's important for me
[10:09] <krababbel> BlueWolf: not really, if you choose sdb, you'd have the sda bootloader a backup, in case you break grub on sdb
[10:10] <krababbel> *as backup. if you choose sda, grub will detect windows and add a menu item so you can boot windows too instead of ubuntu
[10:10] <Ray2> bluewolf if you have been booting 10.04 and windows..I would set the bootloader to sda
[10:11] <lantizia_> Hey I've got a load of files shared via NFS but I'm sick of poor NFS performance and how Ubuntu has no out of box support for it so I'm switching to Samba.  The only issue is lots of my files/dirs have what smb/fat consider "illegal characters" like slashes and colons - any script I can use to on-mass detect and rename them? (were talking thousands of files)
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> lantizia_  better ask in #bash
[10:12] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok look I am used to installing dual boots with Ubuntu 10.04 and windows 7. And it has worked fine for me so far, can I just install the boot loader on sda like Ray2 suggests?
[10:12] <krababbel> BlueWolf: I'd say yes
[10:12] <jrib> lantizia_: use the "rename" script; it uses regex
[10:12] <dr_willis> ive never heard of nfsbeing worse than samba. reformance wise
[10:13] <lantizia_> jrib, you realise I'm talking of hundreds of thousands of files right?
[10:13] <jrib> lantizia_: rename and find
[10:13] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok let me go and give this all a try, I shull return if I blow up my computer! :D
[10:13] <HTDutchy> How do I manually add a dns server? resolv.conf says not to edit manually...
[10:13] <krababbel> BlueWolf: you can always fix boot loaders, just keep a live cd around
[10:14] <jrib> !resolvconf | HTDutchy
[10:14] <borozm> Hi
[10:14] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok I will be back, :)
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> !dns| HTDutchy
[10:14] <borozm> need a networking guru
[10:14] <HTDutchy> thanks guys
[10:14] <jrib> lantizia_: you might also ask the #samba guys what they suggest
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> !ask| borozm
[10:14] <L3top> lantizia_: We use NFS without issue, and the performance is much better than samba. What are you renaming the files from and to? Does this need to be recursive or a single folder?
[10:15] <lantizia_> L3top, already said what i'm renaming - and it's recursive
[10:15] <borozm> How do I see again lost panel of networking interfaces?
[10:17] <L3top> "like slashes and colons" is not clear enough for me to write something. What kind of slashes, and are those the only two examples lantizia_?
[10:17] <lantizia_> L3top, if you're not familiar with the topic at hand then don't help
[10:17] <eilyx> why's /home/* not chmod 700.. i could read other's directories ;/
[10:17] <L3top> done. Good luck.
[10:18] <lantizia_> :)
[10:18] <krakenlaken> Dear Ubuntoids...assist me..
[10:19] <krakenlaken> I booted today and witnessed in horror that my sound doesn't work anymore...
[10:19] <L3top> For the record, I am intimately familiar with what is needed... just not going to fight someone to help them.
[10:20] <Ray2> L3top, !cookies | l3top
[10:20] <jrib> Ray2: are you trying to make L3top bake himself a cookie?  Why don't you make him bake one for everyone???
[10:21] <SilvereX> So I've been having trouble with my mouse pointer elastically returning to the middle of the screen
[10:21] <SilvereX> When playing games
[10:21] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok I don't know what I am doing!!!! I'm finding that it's not similar to 10.04. When I click on the free space then Add what do I do after that? :(
[10:21] <SilvereX> I've been googling it for ages and haven't found a fix, but I've just read that an application that does not like
[10:21] <SilvereX> forced mouse warping includes the mouse pointer elastically returning to the middle of the screen
[10:22] <SilvereX> Is this true, and if so, is there any way to fix it so my mouse will hide when running some applications?
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> what's forced mouse warping?
[10:23] <jrib> SilvereX: unclutter will hide your mouse pointer but I don't understand what you said before that
[10:23] <SilvereX> jrib: When running some applications (specifically Far Cry 2) my desktop cursor stays in the middle of the screen
[10:24] <SilvereX> When I move the mouse the cursor moves for a little bit before returning to the center of the screen
[10:24] <SilvereX> The in game cursor works fine
[10:24] <jrib> SilvereX: in wine?
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> oh, games
[10:24] <SilvereX> jrib: Yeah. I've been asking about it in #wine and so far have no responses
[10:25] <jrib> SilvereX: does it happen outside of wine?  Like watching a full screen movie for example?
[10:25] <ThinkT510> !appdb | SilvereX
[10:25] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok I don't know what I am doing!!!! I'm finding that it's not similar to 10.04. When I click on the free space then Add what do I do after that? :(
[10:25] <jrib> SilvereX: or even one of the native fps on linux
[10:25] <SilvereX> jrib: Watching a fullscreen movie is fine. It only happens when running some games
[10:27] <ThinkT510> !partitioning | BlueWolf
[10:27] <BlueWolf>
[10:27] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: :)
[10:28] <Ray2> bluewolf click on page 2 for examples
[10:28] <BlueWolf> Ray2: Ok :)
[10:28] <SilvereX> jrib: It only seems to happen in windowed mode. When I run it in fullscreen it's fine, but the game doesn't take up the whole screen
[10:29] <SilvereX> jrib: And when I quit, there seems to be some invisible barriers preventing me from moving my mouse to the far right and bottom of my screen
[10:29] <dr_willis> SilvereX: that may be a scaleing setting for your video card or monitor
[10:30] <PaSsI> any channel for wine?
[10:30] <ThinkT510> PaSsI: #winehq
[10:30] <jrib> SilvereX: laptop by any chance?
[10:30] <SilvereX> jrib: Desktop computer
[10:30] <PaSsI> ThinkT510, thanks
[10:30] <SilvereX> jrib: 12.04
[10:32] <yincongxian> what's this
[10:32] <ThinkT510> yincongxian: ubuntu support channel
[10:33] <yincongxian> oh,I have known
[10:34] <krakenlaken> Excuse me, where could I ask for some audio troubleshooting, if it's possible that is..
[10:34] <ThinkT510> !audio | krakenlaken
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> krakenlaken  try here
[10:36] <krakenlaken> Thank you. I'll try those too..
[10:38] <Alberto> hi. am having a problem installing the thunderbird-stable ppa ( More info: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable)
[10:38] <Alberto> gpg: "tag:launchpad.net:2008:redacted" not a key ID: skipping / recv failed
[10:38] <ardchoille> Alberto: any reason you're installing a ppa when thunderbird is in the repos?
[10:39] <ThinkT510> Alberto: we don't support ppas here, you need to ask its maintainer
[10:39] <Alberto> ok thanks
[10:42] <kaste> hey, i have a bit of trouble with amarok and pulse. I can't get any sound out of it, likely because it tries to send the output to the HDMI instead of the normal ac97. I configure it otherwise but everytime i open up the dialog it changed back. How can i fix this?
[10:43] <kaste> sound is working fine otherwise, i hear system sounds, mpg123 can play just dandy
[10:44] <farrioth> Has anyone had issues with kerning in qt4 on precise?
[10:44] <Ippo> I have a bunch of wma files and need them in wav or mp3. unfortunately, audacity 2.0.0 says that it can't open wma files because of legal issues. Anybody has any idea?
[10:44] <Ippo> (i'm on a work computer and cannot install anything)
[10:45] <farrioth> Ippo: Do you have mplayer?
[10:45] <Ippo> unfortunately, not even mplayer
[10:45] <Ippo> no mplayer, no ffmpeg, no soundjuicer
[10:46] <ThinkT510> Ippo: no doubt it is a codec issue and to solve it you need to install the codec, looks like you're rather stuck
[10:46] <farrioth> Ippo: Can you boot a livecd and install something there?
[10:46] <Ippo> no, I don't have the rights to restart the system
[10:46] <Ippo> but wait
[10:46] <Ippo> there is the default sound recorder installed
[10:47] <Ippo> let me fiddle with it a bit
[10:47] <ElixirVitae> Forgive my uneducated question but why is there so many dependencies in linux? I migrated from windows and I generally did not need anything other than .net or directx...
[10:47] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: windows apps usually ship with their dependencies
[10:47] <ElixirVitae> Whereas in linux many programs necessitates numerous dependencies
[10:48] <krakenlaken> I followed all steps in the troubleshooting page from ubottu and also the ASLA page recommended there. All commands followed thru until sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:48] <ardchoille> ElixirVitae: and if you stick with the repos the user rarely has to mess with dependencies
[10:48] <ElixirVitae> I used apt up till now, but read that synaptic or aptitude are great alternatives
[10:48] <Ippo> the sound recorder can apparently open the files
[10:48] <Ippo> but I can't get it to convert them
[10:49] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: avoid aptitude
[10:49] <ThinkT510> !aptitude | ElixirVitae
[10:49] <talpur__> hi friends
[10:49] <ElixirVitae> oh, I see
[10:49] <Ippo> nope, wrong
[10:49] <Ippo> cannot even play them, codec issues
[10:50] <talpur__> I M NEW HERE
[10:50] <Ippo> ok, I'm s*****d
[10:50] <ardchoille> Ippo: you're quite limited if you can't install anything
[10:50] <Ippo> ikr
[10:50] <ElixirVitae> What about synaptic, does any clash occur using it interchangeably with apt?
[10:50] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: no, it is a front-end to apt-get
[10:50] <ardchoille> ElixirVitae: Synaptic has worked great for me for years
[10:50] <talpur__> I have problem to download benchmarck...error 500 attempts
[10:51] <Ippo> well, I do have the rights to restart another pc in the room
[10:51] <Ippo> I might boot a live cd on that one
[10:51] <Ippo> it will probably get me fired but at least I'll have my files
[10:52] <ElixirVitae> Ippo's question reminds me, I have been using portable applications in Win, either standalone or with liberkey or portableapps
[10:52] <ElixirVitae> Does an equivalent in linux exists?
[10:52] <farrioth> Okay, got my font rendering sorted (hopefully).
[10:52] <talpur__> talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~/GEM5 $ wget https://llvm.org/svn/llvm-projects/test-suite/tags/RELEASE_14/SingleSource/Benchmarks/McGill/queens.c
[10:52] <talpur__> --2012-10-08 18:51:57--  https://llvm.org/svn/llvm-projects/test-suite/tags/RELEASE_14/SingleSource/Benchmarks/McGill/queens.c
[10:52] <talpur__> Resolving llvm.org (llvm.org)... <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:52] <talpur__> Connecting to llvm.org (llvm.org)|<IP_ADDRESS>|:443... connected.
[10:52] <talpur__> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error
[10:52] <talpur__> 2012-10-08 18:52:01 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error.
[10:52] <FloodBot1> talpur__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: just use a livecd/usb
[10:53] <ElixirVitae> What if I can't/don't want to boot, as is the case with Ippo?
[10:53] <Ippo> @ElixirVitae: there are many standalone programs
[10:53] <Ippo> not sure if that was your question
[10:53] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: in that case, not really then
[10:53] <ElixirVitae> it was standalone AND portable, Ippo
[10:54] <ElixirVitae> but I can use portableapps or liberkey platforms through wine, no?
[10:54] <Ippo> sorry, I've got no experience with that, can't help you
[10:54] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: no idea, wine would need to be aware of the usb
[10:55] <ElixirVitae> hmm, that needs experimenting then
[10:56] <ElixirVitae> winehq says portableapps is platinum whereas liberkey is garbage
[10:56] <L3top> talpur__: The url is wrong. You might try using subversion anyway.
[10:57] <ElixirVitae> though both releases seem old ones
[10:57] <krakenlaken> Since the command is not finding any packages..is there another place I can get the linux alsa driver modules? I'm over my head in this.
[10:57] <talpur__> but when I use the same command in LAB pc it was working good but on my laptop it gives the error
[10:57] <L3top> Either the site is down, or the url is malformed.
[10:58] <L3top> Put it in a browser and see.
[10:58] <talpur__> ok L3top
[10:58] <[x]> jamestunnicliffe: how you changed your host ?
[10:59] <farrioth> krakenlaken: I came in late, fill me in on what you're doing?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> howto completly remove zeitgeist
[11:00] <ThinkT510> !info zeitgeist
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  here's something http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust:tnx leme ake a look
[11:01] <krakenlaken> Thank you farrioth. Well I booted today (12.04) and my sound wasn't working anymore. Alsamixer showes no file or directory and the card is named 'dummy device'. I followed a guide on all this until this command: sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) alsa-driver alsa-utils  ; showes no packages found.
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  and also this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1773332
[11:02] <wejq> hi, can i have some help ? I try to install 12.04 on my laptop, that has some partitions yet, 2 ntfs, one restricted by system, 2 ext4s and one linux swap. But when i insert my cd, and run liveCD (as i am now) and installer cant see any partitions, it can see only /dev/sda as unallocated place, so do gparted. Fstabs are ok, and on this partitions i have data, that i can use by windows on NTFS's. Here is some data: http://i.imgur.com/0i6E
[11:02] <talpur__> thanks L3top,,,now its working,,it has spell mistake,url was wrong
[11:02] <wejq> no fstabs but fdisk
[11:03] <krakenlaken> shows* ..^_^
[11:05] <masuman> Hi all,I have a with ubuntu I have accidentally del eted my home directory and cant log in to any of the accounts, can someone help?
[11:05] <farrioth> krakenlaken: What is the output of uname -r ?
[11:05] <krakenlaken> 3.2.0-31-generic-pae
[11:05] <masuman> There is no output
[11:06] <masuman> I cant access anything
[11:06] <farrioth> masuman: You can re- mkdir your home and chown it to yourself, but you won't get your files back...
[11:06] <JoFo> Hello. It seems the XHTML tags <ruby>, <rb> and <rt> are not supported by Firefox 15.0.1 on Ubuntu Precise. How can I add support for ruby text?
[11:06] <masuman> ok thanks
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> masuman  boot a live cd, try to recover the files from there