[20:47] <nand> welkin: I'd say first that building your own OS is just irreaslistic :) But you should really start by learning C. C is a subset of C++, so it's better to start by it.
[20:47] <SebNaitsabes> graft:  altough maybe they sort of use FIrefox, but try them anyway
[20:47] <andycas> SebNaitsabes: ofcourse its an ati card, i wouldnt use flgrx then
[20:47] <andycas> SebNaitsabes: fglrx*
[20:47] <airstrikeivanov> Agreed
[20:48] <airstrikeivanov> fglrx is horrible
[20:48] <daigorobr> dfgas: like in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[20:48] <welkin> nand i know that is tough.... but i just want to know tat..... is c and c++ is enough??
[20:48] <SebNaitsabes> andycas: ok so install this  envyng-gtk
[20:48] <ajopaul> i already have a gmail configured on evolution, now any new accounts i add the mails are fethced to the global inbox folder instead of its seperate folder like gmail's
[20:48] <nand> welkin: it will be difficult because you will have to learn much (read, a few months) before doing very simple things. But once you start to get it, it's wonderful :)
[20:48] <SebNaitsabes> andycas:  or if you want the KDE one  envyng-qt
[20:48] <graft> SebNaitsabes: yeah those don't work, same bug as firefox is crippling them, whatever it is
[20:48] <nand> welkin: with C/C++, you can basically do whatever you want.
[20:48] <joetheodd> I put [ 0 2 * * * apt-get dist-upgrade -y ] in root's crontab, but for some reason it's not working every night at 2AM. Can anyone see a problem?
[20:48] <welkin> nand where r u frm??
[20:48] <andycas> SebNaitsabes: envyng didnt work with the custom built kernel, kept giving me DRI errors because the kernel does not have fglrx module compiled in it
[20:48] <SebNaitsabes> graft:  could just be simpally a currupted profile
[20:49] <mcclarren> hey, guys.I need to get a serial port working in Ubuntu for Dosemu. Running lshw shows "serial UNCLAIMED" What does this mean, and how do i resolve it?
[20:49] <SebNaitsabes> andycas: ok I can't help then
[20:49] <Yatas> is ubuntu better in playing almost any videos in comparing to windows ?
[20:49] <airstrikeivanov> Yatas: Yes. As long as you have the right codecs.
[20:49] <graft> SebNaitsabes: nah, i've deleted my profile a billion times
[20:49] <Yatas> right codecs ?
[20:50] <hacksilber> Yatas, videos require codecs to play, same concept in windows
[20:50] <airstrikeivanov> Yatas: Just like in Windows, to play certain formats you require the right software to be able to display the content.
[20:50] <daigorobr> andycas: you should read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what is wrong with it.
[20:50] <Yatas> shouldn't ubuntu be doing that for me while i sit back ?
[20:50] <airstrikeivanov> Yatas: If you try to play a video without the proper codecs, Ubuntu will ask you to find them to install.
[20:50] <hacksilber> Yatas, ubuntu will go out and find the codecs for you if you don't have them to start with
[20:50] <airstrikeivanov> It DOES NOT do it automatically.
[20:50] <andycas> Just one question, will the opensource radeon driver support 3d acceleration (compiz)?
[20:50] <SebNaitsabes> !multimedia
[20:51] <hacksilber> Yatas, linux in general is better for video given less overhead on the operating system
[20:51] <Yatas> ahh good
[20:51] <daigorobr> andycas: for your board, I think it should.
[20:51] <graft> andycas: if it works on your card, it will
[20:51] <Yatas> thats  what i wanted to hear
[20:51] <crdlb> andycas: not on that card
[20:51] <X-tremAl_Raven> Got no acpi support after latest packet upgrade. What to do?
[20:51] <graft> andycas: what's your card?
[20:51] <andycas> graft: ATI Xpress 1150
[20:52] <airstrikeivanov> Hm, odd, I can't delete the mounted ISO I just mounted.
[20:52] <airstrikeivanov> I mounted it to ~/.mount and now I can't empty the .mount folder.
[20:52] <airstrikeivanov> Keeps saying "Read-only file system", even when I sudo it.
[20:52] <meeper> I guess there's no way to do it. This is terrible.
[20:52] <mynetdude> yay... FF3/google work for me now too
[20:53] <RxDx> does ubuntu still have the problem that reduces the HD life-time?
[20:53] <meeper> Anybody know how to get gnome/metacity to actually bring a window to the front instead of just flashing its icon in the appbar?
[20:53] <daigorobr> airstrikeivanov: maybe because it is read-only. don't isos get mounted like normal cds?
[20:53] <airstrikeivanov> I mounted a Starcraft ISO
[20:53] <airstrikeivanov> Normally when I do this it lets me delete it to mount the Brood Wars expansion
[20:53] <MrKeuner> hi all, has Ubuntu switch to some different updating policy. I do not remember installing that much updates in feisty. Don;t get me wrong i am happy with frequent updates, just curious
[20:53] <mcclarren> anyone able to assist with a serial port? Seems Ubuntu recognizes it, but it is not enabled.
[20:53] <daigorobr> Wait a sec... But did you unmount it successfully?
[20:53] <airstrikeivanov> No
[20:54] <mynetdude> anybody know if linux supports dualview desktop extension on dual monitors? I know it can clone for sure
[20:54] <airstrikeivanov> I use gnome-mount and click Unmount and it doesn't unmount
[20:54] <mynetdude> well at least gnome ubuntu
[20:54] <daigorobr> mynetdude: which gfx board?
[20:54] <mynetdude> daigorobr I don't remember exactly, its an ATI mobility
[20:54] <daigorobr> airstrikeivanov: maybe sudo umount ~/.mount
[20:54] <airstrikeivanov> "Device is busy"
[20:54] <Timi> So, I've heard that the new iPods don't work well with ubuntu, is this true?
[20:55] <airstrikeivanov> Odd, but Wine isn't running anymore....
[20:55] <daigorobr> mynetdude: I got dualhead working with the open source drivers in an xpress200m, flawlessly.
[20:55] <daigorobr> airstrikeivanov: i hate when this happens. there is something still using your iso.
[20:55] <airstrikeivanov> How can I find out what it is?
[20:55] <airstrikeivanov> Cause the INstall.exe/Wine program ended a while ago.
[20:55] <daigorobr> mynetdude: but can't help 'cause my ati laptop is home.
[20:55] <mynetdude> daigorobr AFAIK I can get ubuntu to clone what i see on the laptop on an external display, but what about extending the desktop rather than cloning?
[20:56] <welkin> nand any way thanks a lot.............. bye bye\'''''''''''''''''
[20:56] <daigorobr> mynetdude: skim the net for xrandr tutorials.
[20:56] <daigorobr> airstrikeivanov: usually i give up when it happens.
[20:56] <mynetdude> daigorobr ok, well I was just wondering if it could... I'll have to try it and see what it does by default first
[20:56] <airstrikeivanov> daigorobr: How do I find out what's using the ISO? I need to mount the next disk.
[20:56] <SaveFerris> any ideas on why the "Connect to 802.1x protected network" doesn't show on my network configuration (Hardy)
[20:56] <daigorobr> airstrikeivanov: apparently there is a way to find it through ps.
[20:57] <daigorobr> airstrikeivanov: but i am not that advanced to help you now.
[20:57] <stutter> i have a bash script that i'm using to start, stop, and restart my synergy client. start and stop work, but restart just kills the process and doesn't start a new one - can someone take a look? http://pastie.textmate.org/private/eebi0ke3y6sh9govxtwczg
[20:57] <daigorobr> mynetdude: what are your screens?
[20:57] <airstrikeivanov> Ah, no wonder
[20:57] <airstrikeivanov> dbus-launch --autolaunch
[20:57] <airstrikeivanov> It's trying to autolaunch a Windows CD
[20:58] <daigorobr> airstrikeivanov: there it is. congrats.
[20:58] <mynetdude> daigorobr what do you mean? I just have the laptop which is a 15" TFT and a 19" LCD monitor
[20:58] <Gohalien> Socorro =) todos los iconos de mi escritorio desaparecieron, reinicié y siguen sin aparecer, pero la carpeta "Escritorio" esta todo ok y se ven las cosas
[20:58] <mynetdude> gonna try it here in a sec
[20:58] <jpds> !es @ Gohalien
[20:58] <jpds> !es | Gohalien
[20:58] <adv> how can i start networkmanager from the cli
[20:58] <koki__> hello there
[20:59] <NetEcho> !compiz
[20:59] <Gohalien> Oops sorry, didnt realized I joined #ubuntu not #ubuntu-es
[20:59] <jlewis_> someone, how do I save a modified file in  nano /etc/default/bluetooth?
[20:59] <NetEcho> !compiz-fusion
[20:59] <ajopaul> i already have a gmail configured on evolution,  now any new accounts i add the mails are fethced to the global inbox folder instead of its own folder
[20:59] <koki__> i need some shell help, i connected a HDD, but i don't know under what name it is in /dev/, what command should i use to list all partitions on all disks ?
[21:00] <ajopaul> koki__, sudo fdisk -l
[21:00] <koki__> thanx
[21:00] <Gohalien> Help, all the icons on my desktop disappeared, I rebooted and they still missing, but is everything ok in the folder "Desktop", all the files I had are there.
[21:00] <daigorobr> mynetdude: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2
[21:00] <amine> السلام عليكم
[21:00] <apophis> wow arabic letters ;D
[21:00] <daigorobr> Gohalien: maybe nautilus (given it is gnome) isn't running in bg.
[21:00] <Yatas> so how are you guys doing on ur ubuntu huh ??
[21:01] <Yatas> everything good huh?
[21:01] <apophis> lovely
[21:01] <Gohalien> daigorobr, yes, I use gnome
[21:01] <Yatas> great great
[21:01] <koki__> ajopaul: it only lists mounted filesystems
[21:01] <amine> I need Proxy
[21:02] <daigorobr> Gohalien: So try to check if nautilus is running.
[21:02] <amine> Help me please
[21:02] <Yatas> you need proxy ??
[21:02] <amine> Proxy
[21:02] <ajopaul> koki__, df -h lists mounted ones, fdisk lists both..
[21:02] <Yatas> get the proxy searcher program
[21:02] <koki__> oh
[21:02] <Yatas> it searches for proxies
[21:02] <Gohalien> daigorobr, nautilus is running
[21:02] <dmacnutt> is that anything like the left handed pie scraper?
[21:02] <Gohalien> daigorobr, even right click on desktop isnt working
[21:03] <ashgarg> can somene help me with an ubuntu query?
[21:03] <apophis> !ask
[21:04] <ashgarg> okay here goes
[21:04] <X-tremAl_Raven> The latest package upgrade is a total shit!!!
[21:04] <X-tremAl_Raven> Now my laptop can't get onfo about batteries, can't switch CPU frequency, can't shutdown gracefully AND! my wireless isn't working!!! Shit!!!
[21:04] <X-tremAl_Raven> *info
[21:04] <ashgarg> i have a dual boot machine running mac os x and ubuntu. i'm trying to backup all the files from both operating systems but my hard drive isn't picked up when i boot into the Mac OS. is there any way I can access all the files in the Mac OS through ubuntu, just to copy?
[21:05] <ipod_touch> Can you just use an external hard drive?
[21:05] <apophis> what you mean by not "picked up" ? you mean you dont see it under ubuntu?
[21:06] <daigorobr> Gohalien
[21:06] <macmouse> ashgarg: you need to get a ext3 reader app
[21:06] <ashgarg> I'm trying to copy the files onto an external hard drive. The hard drive is accessible via Ubuntu but not via the Mac OS
[21:06] <macmouse> for os x
[21:06] <daigorobr> Gohalien: Use Alt+F2 and call Nautilus. It should be enough.
[21:06] <dbindner> Any chance that people are complaining today about the backlight spontaneously going off on their laptops?  I'm still on Ubuntu 7.10 and my backlight goes off every couple of minutes on my Dell Inspiron 1520.  I can reset it with 'xset dpms force off; xset dpms force on' but that is really tedious.
[21:07] <ipod_touch> hmm, what file system does your HDD have?
[21:07] <macmouse> I /think/ this would work ashgarg: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/
[21:07] <ipod_touch> NTFS?
[21:07] <GreenThumb> hello!
[21:07] <ipod_touch> FAT32?
[21:07] <pilpi> dbindner, i have a similar problem, too
[21:07] <apophis> fat32 should be mounted everywhere ;)
[21:07] <ashgarg> ipod_touch, im not sure hwat file system my External HDD has, let me take a look
[21:07] <dbindner> It's pretty maddening.
[21:07] <ipod_touch> oh ok
[21:07] <macmouse> ashgarg: was it formatted differently previously?
[21:08] <ashgarg> macmouse, what does the application you have just sent me do?
[21:08] <macmouse> ashgarg:it could have two different partition tables on it
[21:08] <macmouse> ashgarg: I'm sorry, I thought you were trying to read linux files from the mac... I mis-understood what you were saying
[21:08] <ipod_touch> hmm, i know it can't be a driver issue
[21:08] <jsalazar> i have a touchscreen on my computer and need help getting it set up
[21:08] <ipod_touch> it's just a HDD
[21:08] <ashgarg> no macmouse, it's the otherway around - need to copy the mac files through linux
[21:09] <macmouse> ah
[21:09] <dbindner> pilpi: Right now I'm seeing my screen go off about every 45s or 60s.
[21:09] <GreenThumb> I'm having trouble accessing my share folder on my windows computer from ubuntu, but no problems accessing my share folders on ubuntu box from windows box
[21:09] <macmouse> well, linux does have beta support for HFS
[21:09] <macmouse> so you could mount it... do it was read only though
[21:09] <ipod_touch> hmm, you think maybe /host/ leads to the mac partition?
[21:09] <jsalazar> i have followed some stuff online but i get the error of a server already active for display 0
[21:09] <Watchbot07> jsalazar: yo
[21:09] <ashgarg> okay - could you tell me how to mount it?
[21:09] <GreenThumb> i've searched high and low and all answers i've come up with are for enabling sharing in linux
[21:09] <pilpi> dbindner, oh, for me it just dims the backlight as if savinf the battery
[21:09] <pilpi> hi (3rd time, next: giving up). am I in vein asking about how to get ubuntu 8.04 installer encrypt only the part that is given to it, so that other OSes can keep the space they already have? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=831469 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=787950
[21:09] <NetEcho> has anyone here had any issues getting compiz working under 8.04?
[21:10] <ipod_touch> no
[21:10] <daigorobr> NetEcho: which video board?
[21:10] <GreenThumb> any ideas?
[21:10] <analyser> hey guys, im trying to setup the HUAWEI gsm modem, i already installed the driver, and it is connecting pretty nice with wvdial, but i wanna try to configure the Network window, at gui, to dial correclty, anyone know how can i do this? im doing it because it is my girlfriend laptops and it should be userfrindly.
[21:10] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: there's no /host/ folder - or maybe im just missing it
[21:10] <gordonjcp> pilpi: try just encrypting the partition you're using
[21:10] <NetEcho> daigorobr Ati X1400 Radeon Mobility
[21:10] <apophis> GreenThumb, Guest Login?
[21:10] <DIL> !samba | GreenThumb
[21:10] <ashgarg> macmouse: could you tell me how to mount the mac os through ubuntu?
[21:10] <macmouse> you might have to recompile the kernel to enable HFS support though.. no idea what what ubuntu has it set by defualt
[21:11] <gordonjcp> pilpi: no-one actually uses disk encryption anyway
[21:11] <DIL> !nfs | GreenThumb
[21:11] <daigorobr> NetEcho: I really don't know if it is possible, let me check, tho.
[21:11] <pilpi> gordonjcp, is this possible to do with the alternative CD installer, and if it is, how? the only automatic option is to do the whole hd
[21:11] <macmouse> mount -t hfsplus <blah blah>
[21:11] <gordonjcp> pilpi: I don't know, I've never tried
[21:11] <dbindner> pilpi: Mine goes black.  If I tilt the screen into the light, I can just barely see.  I'll try with the power unplugged, maybe that will work differently (i.e. I could live with dim better than black).
[21:11] <NetEcho> daigorobr had it working under 7.10
[21:11] <macmouse> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/mounting-hfs-volumes-under-linux-521189/
[21:11] <daigorobr> NetEcho: well, so it is possible.
[21:11] <gordonjcp> pilpi: I honestly can't see a use for disk encryption, and the performance hit would be crippling
[21:11] <KyleK> how can I stop some network interfaces from swapping around? like eth0 and eth1 switching which card they're attached to
[21:11] <GreenThumb> yeah, i've set it up and accessing the share files from my windows system works like a charm, but when i try to navigate in ubuntu to the windows share files i get a message that the contents can't be viewed
[21:12] <ashgarg> macmouse: I'm checking out the link just now. What is the "blah blah" in the mount command you said?
[21:12] <apophis> gordonjcp, you definitly have no idea about encryption
[21:12] <amine> I need Proxy for Ubuntu  ??
[21:12] <pilpi> gordonjcp, it is not very wise to take a laptop on any longer journey to be stolen without it. do you have research data to show it really is crippling?
[21:12] <daigorobr> NetEcho: you could try to debug it by calling "compiz --replace" from command line and googling the errors that come by.
[21:12] <macmouse> ashgarg: well, it depends upon what type of HD you have and which position it is
[21:12] <DIL> !nis | GreenThumb
[21:12] <macmouse> you could try doing fdisk /dev/hda
[21:12] <apophis> pilpi, its not crippling, its about 1 - 4% on a modern cpu
[21:12] <NetEcho> daigorobr been doing that for a while heh
[21:12] <macmouse> assuming it is an ide drive
[21:12] <ashgarg> how can i check that? (sorry for being so ignorant)
[21:12] <ipod_touch> Ok, is Ubuntu installed in the Mac?
[21:12] <pilpi> apophis, this is a thinkpad t41 1600mHz, 512 mb?
[21:12] <ipod_touch> probably not, right?
[21:12] <daigorobr> NetEcho: can't help you, then. Sorry.
[21:13] <ramribeiro_> hello. i have one toshiba notebook with intel GM965 card video and when i use googleEarth the screen be black but the system don't freeze. can someone help me?
[21:13] <macmouse> ashgarg: try running "fdisk /dev/hda" or "fdisk /dev/sda"
[21:13] <macmouse> as root
[21:13] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: Ubuntu is installed on a Macintosh, yes
[21:13] <macmouse> and you either get a list of info or nothing
[21:13] <GreenThumb> ok, thanks for those links. i'll get reading!
[21:13] <Azalar> ramribeiro: you dont have it set to space mode do you
[21:13] <ipod_touch> oh ok, and it's not through Parallel's is it/
[21:13] <ipod_touch> ?
[21:13] <Wolvenhaven> guys how do i get pidgen through an ssh tunnel, set the ports manually to the port i assign the ssh tunnel to?
[21:13] <apophis> pilpi, you won't play games on that machine anyway... and the power is only used when accessing the harddisk, you wont see a difference in working with or without a harddisk encryption
[21:13] <macmouse> ipod_touch: yeah, you can run ubuntu on a mac natively
[21:13] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: it's not through parallels, its native
[21:14] <pilpi> i wonder if it would be possible to thread all these discussions live so one could just follow some of them
[21:14] <ashgarg> macmouse: i did fdisk /dev/sda
[21:14] <ashgarg> now it asks for a command
[21:14] <ipod_touch> oh ok, so there should be a /host/ folder
[21:14] <macmouse> p
[21:14] <murlidhar> i don 't get the option to hibernate. what is the problem?
[21:14] <ipod_touch> type that in any folder
[21:14] <ipod_touch> in the address bar
[21:14] <ashgarg> macmouse: okay i typed p
[21:14] <DIL> pilpi: it is logged
[21:14] <macmouse> ashgarg: did it list the partition table?
[21:14] <ipod_touch> do you see anything or does an error come up?
[21:14] <ramribeiro_> Azalar: so sorry, i can't understand you
[21:14] <ashgarg> macmouse: yes it did, i get a list of partitions
[21:15] <analyser> hey guys, im trying to setup the HUAWEI gsm modem, i already installed the driver, and it is connecting pretty nice with wvdial, but i wanna try to configure the Network window, at gui, to dial correclty, anyone know how can i do this? im doing it because it is my girlfriend laptops and it should be userfrindly.
[21:15] <Azalar> ramribeiro: google earth has a sky mode for the stars, maybe thats why its black
[21:15] <trainpic> where should I ask about when the latest madwifi modules will be in ubuntu?
[21:15] <kikr> ubuntu didn't take my network card
[21:15] <kikr> =\
[21:15] <daigorobr> analyser: maybe with network-manager 0.7
[21:15] <macmouse> ashgarg: could you msg me that list?
[21:15] <apophis> pilpi, thats why you should always adress the person you are talking to ;) so the line gets highlighted... and for a hightraffic channel its quite possible to follow ;D I wonder myself
[21:15] <pilpi> apophis, ok. so do you have an idea about the question about keeping a small ntfs partition? or does the "use full disk" really preserve ntfs as is implied here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=787950
[21:15] <analyser> daigorobr: i'll look for it
[21:16] <Ayabara> java applets doesn't seem to work in ff3 on my hardy.
[21:16] <DIL> pilpi: it is logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[21:16] <daigorobr> analyser: there is a ppa for it. will get the url. wait.
[21:16] <ashgarg> macmouse: im actually chatting from a different machine, the one i'm having trouble with doesn't have internet. is there something specific i can tell you from it?
[21:16] <trainpic> Ayabara, are you on 64bit?
[21:16] <ramribeiro_> Azalar: lolo... the same problem did when i working with OpenGl, on my chemistry packages. every time when i try to rendering some imagens the system crash
[21:16] <pilpi> DIL, ok, though that does not really answer my q
[21:16] <ipod_touch> ashgarg, see if you can find the right partition where your mac files are
[21:16] <rogue_trader> does anyone here run boinc? i always get the error message that i can not connect to a client
[21:16] <pilpi> DIL, but it don't matter, just wondering out loud
[21:16] <Ayabara> trainpic, no, 32
[21:16] <analyser> daigorobr: ok, i dont know, but i have here is too simple, i cant edit many options from the modem
[21:17] <Flannel> pilpi: Use full disk will do just that, use the whole disk
[21:17] <ipod_touch> under /host/
[21:17] <daigorobr> analyser: https://launchpad.net/~dalbers/+archive | take care and use it wisely.
[21:17] <zetheroo> I have the DSL-2640U ADSL modem/Router and I would like to assign an IP address to each Mac address on the network... but I cannot where in the world to do this in the firmware.... please help
[21:17] <trainpic> OK... scratch my theory
[21:17] <Azalar> ramribeiro: heh ok, must be the drivers then
[21:17] <macmouse> ashgarg: yeah... well, you can quit it and try them sequentially, since we know what disk it is now
[21:17] <apophis> pilpi, I am not familiar with that method of fulldisk encryption, do you have any pointer to the implementation or the program used?
[21:17] <macmouse> ashgarg: so /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc
[21:17] <murlidhar> i don 't get the option to hibernate. what is the problem?
[21:17] <ipod_touch> if you find the right partition, copy your files from there to your HDD
[21:17] <daigorobr> analyser: I never used a gsm modem, but I read nm0.7 should do it.
[21:17] <gordonjcp> pilpi: disk encryption isn't really worth the trouble
[21:17] <Azalar> apophis: truecrypt is good for that
[21:17] <ramribeiro_> Azalar: someone said me once which that problems was stabilized on hardy heron, because it was too on gutsy
[21:17] <Neku> hey is there a ubuntu version of orbit downloader or something similar
[21:17] <trainpic> try uninstalling/reinstalling sun-java-plugin. Dunno, maybe FF3 hasn't picked up the plugin
[21:17] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: i cant actually find a /host/ directory
[21:18] <ipod_touch> hmm
[21:18] <amine> i need some proxy in Linux
[21:18] <ashgarg> macmouse: i see all the partitions, is there a way to know which is the mac files?
[21:18] <ramribeiro_> Azalar: my drives is ok, i965 packages
[21:18] <macmouse> ashgarg: "mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda2 /mnt/"
[21:18] <kikr> hey, what are the steps to take if ubuntu doesn't detect the networking device?
[21:18] <ipod_touch> i can't really help you on this one then because i normally use windows and ubuntu together
[21:18] <macmouse> ashgarg: well, it should say hfsplus
[21:18] <ajhtiredwolf> hey does nayone know if the 9800gtx has working drivers in linux and or works well?
[21:18] <ipod_touch> i haven't tried this on a mac yet
[21:18] <macmouse> ashgarg: maybe... I don't know if fdisk can tell
[21:18] <trainpic> kikr: can u /msg me the output of lspci?
[21:18] <apophis> Azalar, truecrypt has no possibility for fulldiskencryption under linux ;)
[21:18] <Neku> hey is there a ubuntu version of orbit downloader or something similar
[21:18] <analyser> daigorobr: it doensnt a dragon with 7 heads, its a bit simple to use, kppp works pretty fine with huaewi
[21:18] <ipod_touch> unless
[21:19] <ipod_touch> hold on
[21:19] <pilpi> apophis, http://news.softpedia.com/news/Encrypted-Ubuntu-8-04-85271.shtml that is all I know
[21:19] <kikr> trainpic, not really. the computer is downstairs. i can retype some of the info though
[21:19] <apophis> pilpi, ty
[21:19] <Azalar> apophis: how do you mean, full disk encryption? is can do entire partitions no problem
[21:19] <daigorobr> analyser: will get one as soon as 3g gets to my region.
[21:19] <ipod_touch> ashgarg, goto the places menu on the menu bar
[21:19] <trainpic> ok...
[21:19] <macmouse> ashgarg: traditionally, a mac has 3-4 different partitions for drivers and disk information, then one for the actual data - but because you are running ubuntu, it is going to be a custom layout
[21:19] <ashgarg> macmouse: should it say hfsplus after or before i mount it?
[21:19] <analyser> daigorobr: but this default dialer of ubuntu is too simples, i cant configure the first and second string of modem's dialing
[21:19] <macmouse> before
[21:19] <ipod_touch> and see if you see any drives that look familiar from the mac
[21:19] <Flannel> pilpi: What's your question?
[21:19] <pilpi> gordonjcp, so you prefer exposing your life to anybody?
[21:19] <daigorobr> analyser: brazilian?
[21:19] <ipod_touch> tell me if you see anything
[21:19] <ashgarg> macmouse: actually i can see /dev/sda/1 2 3 4 and 5 all for the macs
[21:19] <AugCampos> Folks any one know how to configure the 3D in a ATI HD 2400
[21:19] <murlidhar> anyone?
[21:20] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: doing that right now
[21:20] <analyser> daigorobr: yeap =)
[21:20] <simotempler> hi there - have a small problem just installed my new lexmark t640 printer with ubuntu and a new toner cartridge and all pages are printing black - anyone any ideas tried google
[21:20] <macmouse> ashgaras: ok, so try #5... or whichever is the biggest one
[21:20] <gordonjcp> pilpi: eh?
[21:20] <daigorobr> analyser: beleza. why don't you hard set it through configuration files?
[21:20] <ajhtiredwolf> hey does nayone know if the 9800gtx has working drivers in linux and or works well?
[21:20] <pilpi> Flannel, "am I in vein asking about how to get ubuntu 8.04 installer encrypt only the part that is given to it, so that other OSes can keep the space they already have? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=831469 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=787950"
[21:20] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: i clicked places, and there's only "Computer", "CD/DVD Creator" and "Lacie 120 GB" which is the external
[21:20] <pilpi> apophis, ?
[21:20] <analyser> daigorobr: i looked for it, but im not a ubuntu user, i just dont know where is the confs
[21:20] <apophis> pilpi, it looks like its above the partition, so in principal it should be possible to just encrypt part of it
[21:20] <trainpic> kikr, on the downstairs computer, try lspci > devices_list, and put the devices_list file on a USB drive and then /msg me the contents
[21:20] <gordonjcp> pilpi: how would I be "exposing my life", as you so floridly put it?
[21:20] <murlidhar> i don 't get the option to hibernate. what is the problem?
[21:21] <daigorobr> analyser: will check it out. wait a sec
[21:21] <ashgarg> macmouse: under the "size" column for the partition table, they all (except the external) seem to have sizes in kilobytes. is this an error?
[21:21] <kikr> alright
[21:21] <ipod_touch> this is really weird
[21:21] <analyser> daigorobr: i hard configured it with wvdial, and worked fine, but i want some graphical tool, because isnt for me
[21:21] <ipod_touch> this is when google comes in
[21:21] <pilpi> gordonjcp, well I would be if someone steals my laptop while I am traveling with it.
[21:21] <apophis> pilpi, however you always should have an emergency copy of all data ;) especially things which are encrypted!!!!
[21:21] <macmouse> ashgarg: yeah... it is most likly to be the biggest one (but not guarenteed)
[21:21] <ipod_touch> i know Western Digital HDD's work fine with any OS
[21:21] <GUARDiAN-> hi
[21:21] <daigorobr> analyser: what if you set up a sh script and put an icon in the desktop or something?
[21:21] <pilpi> apophis, surely, but I am doing this for the privacy
[21:21] <gordonjcp> pilpi: <shrug>
[21:22] <macmouse> ashgarg: you could also run "df -k" and if any of them match up, then you know those ones are linux and being used
[21:22] <Flannel> pilpi: Manual partitioning, make encrypted LVM on the physical volumes that you created, and it won't touch anything else.  You'll *probably* want to have an unecrypted boot separate from LVM
[21:22] <yooshi> ahh much better
[21:22] <daigorobr> analyser: it is a meia-boca, but functional solution
[21:22] <macmouse> ashgarg: but that is probably too much info
[21:22] <apophis> pilpi,  you can keep the copy somewhere safe!
[21:22] <daniele_> ##springitalia
[21:22] <gordonjcp> pilpi: I don't have anything particularly important on my laptop, and when I'm travelling it never leaves my sight
[21:22] <Azalar> apophis: what do you mean by full disk encryption? like encrypted a partition?
[21:22] <daigorobr> analyser: http://gutocarvalho.net/mediawiki/index.php/Instalando_e_configurando_CLARO_3G_no_Ubuntu
[21:22] <yooshi> woot my bro wil like this when he gets home
[21:22] <macmouse> ashgarg: with it set to hfsplus, it will either work or fail, and if you try 1-5 it should eventually work
[21:22] <ashgarg> macmouse: when i try to run mount i get the response "only root can do that"
[21:22] <analyser> daigorobr: i though something like this... but im trying to do first in the right way... if it becomes too hard, i'll make it by hand with scripts
[21:22] <macmouse> ashgarg: ah, you need to run it inside sudo
[21:22] <GUARDiAN-> i'm trying to use pulseaudio on hardy, but when running "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start" i just get the prompt again and there's no pulseaudio-process running. any ideas what might be wrong here?
[21:22] <ashgarg> macmouse: am i doing something wrong?
[21:22] <apophis> Azalar, I mean that the root partition is encrypted, where the OS resides
[21:23] <ipod_touch> ashgarg, do you think maybe the Lacie 120 GB isn't compatible with the Mac?
[21:23] <daigorobr> analyser: so try nm0.7 it can really help you.
[21:23] <ashgarg> macmouse: what do you mean?
[21:23] <henry> hello
[21:23] <macmouse> ashgarg: you need to run "sudo bash" and type in yourpassword
[21:23] <Azalar> apophis: ahh ok, think encfs does that no?
[21:23] <henry> wot is this
[21:23] <macmouse> ashgarg: to get root access
[21:23] <analyser> daigorobr: ok, ill look for it
[21:23] <gordonjcp> pilpi: I could understand those concerns if you were travelling to the USA
[21:23] <analyser> daigorobr: really thanks
[21:23] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: it can copy files to and from the mac very easily, so i dont see why not
[21:23] <macmouse> ashgarg: it is like an extra safety percasuion
[21:23] <Ven]n> how do i install ccsm in a default ubuntu installation+
[21:23] <pilpi> Flannel, so you know that there is no easier way, it is either total annihilation by the installer or doing it completely independently?
[21:23] <yooshi> ok, got another question... is there any way to show users on the "welcome" screen in ubuntu like winXP and Vista do it?
[21:23] <ashgarg> macmouse: trying that now
[21:23] <macmouse> ashgarg: as you can get into /real/ trouble as root very easily
[21:23] <daigorobr> analyser: btw, you could put kppp in gnome (horrible, but working).
[21:23] <ipod_touch> hmm, maybe try rebooting the Mac
[21:23] <Guest34750> jj
[21:23] <Guest34750> f
[21:23] <Flannel> pilpi: Doing it manually isn't difficult
[21:23] <Guest34750> f
[21:23] <analyser> daigorobr: yeah, i though about it too
[21:24] <Flannel> pilpi: Personally, I'd never want LVM to be done for me
[21:24] <andyca1> Are ati open source drivers better than fglrx?
[21:24] <apophis> Azalar, there are plenty of methods doing that under linux, however I wasnt aware of a special solution for ubuntu, thats why I asked for his method :) I myself use CompuSec which does crossplatform PBA (Pre Boot Authentication) for linux and windows
[21:24] <analyser> daigorobr: in early days, existed a "gppp" but i dont know if it still exists
[21:24] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: rebooted the mac loads of times, it just doesnt work
[21:24] <DIL> pilpi: most compuyers allow you to put a pw on the bios and on the hdd - if computer is stolen wont be easy to use unless they know how to clear it and the hdd cannot be used w/o pw
[21:24] <ashgarg> macmouse: i'm in root, tried the mount command you said above and it says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2"
[21:25] <apophis> DIL, thats not true, the HDD is always readable even with a BIOS Pass... you just have to open the laptop
[21:25] <kikr> trainpic, sent
[21:25] <dbindner> pilpi: It seems that I can run on battery more successfully....  It's dim (as always on battery) but not black so far.
[21:25] <macmouse> ashgarg: ah good, that means that # is not right
[21:25] <yooshi> any way to make user accounts appear on ubuntu welcome screen rather than having to type in the username?
[21:25] <macmouse> ashgarg: so change it to 3, and try again
[21:25] <gordonjcp> apophis: no, some hard disks will not play without a password
[21:25] <macmouse> ashgarg: and 4 and then 5
[21:25] <analyser> daigorobr: i found a gnome pppon
[21:25] <Neku> hey is there a ubuntu version of orbit downloader or something similar
[21:25] <gordonjcp> apophis: at that point you need magic kinky firmware to get them to talk to you
[21:25] <apophis> gordonjcp, these are rare
[21:25] <analyser> daigorobr: im trying too install and use it, ill run it now
[21:25] <Ven]n> on my ubuntu install i cant move windows further up than the top bar.. how do i fix this?
[21:25] <Avenged-Revenge> after an update today, I lost all sound! Help! Checked alsamixer and everything, i now only have master volume. before I had tons of sliders
[21:25] <ashgarg> macmouse: did so, same issue with 3, 4 and 5
[21:25] <pilpi> dbindner, i don't really have much of an idea on your problem
[21:25] <gordonjcp> apophis: yes, they are
[21:26] <Ven]n> i have a eee pc.. so i need more space
[21:26] <daigorobr> analyser: g'luck.
[21:26] <DIL> apophis: you will need the pw to boot it
[21:26] <macmouse> ashgarg: hrm... well try #1 then.. lol
[21:26] <daigorobr> Ven]n: It is possible.
[21:26] <ashgarg> macmouse: hmm same thing
[21:26] <ajopaul> how do i have seperate folders for evolution accounts, instead of global inbox?
[21:26] <daigorobr> Ven]n: How much space is being taken now?
[21:26] <apophis> DIL, he doesnt fear that someone can boot the laptop, he fears that his companies secrets get exposed ;)
[21:26] <trainpic> kikr, what brand of NIC is it? Or is it integrated on the motherboard?
[21:26] <DIL> apophis: ok
[21:26] <rogue_trader> pdgin started showing me a new user which is identified as first name "icq" and last name "system". it has the number 12111 and can not be deleted - if i delete it, it reappers the next time i start pdgin. how can i change that?
[21:26] <Neku> hey is there a ubuntu version of orbit downloader or something similar
[21:26] <aedrill> hi
[21:26] <Jessica> how can i get the thing like on DSL which is at the top right hand side of my desktop displaying my computer stats
[21:27] <Ven]n> daigorobr: i just need to be able to move windows further up than the top bar so i can see the OK, CANCEL buttons
[21:27] <aedrill> I have a question about wine
[21:27] <macmouse> ashgarg: so is your problem that you can not  boot into os x?
[21:27] <aedrill> could any1 help me?
[21:27] <amine> السلام عليكم   أنا أبحث عن عرب     أين أنتم يا عرب ؟
[21:27] <macmouse> ashgarg: and you want your data?
[21:27] <daigorobr> Ven]n: Oh!
[21:27] <kikr> trainpic, most likely it is integrated. it's a dell pc.
[21:27] <Avenged-Revenge> aedrill, just ask the question
[21:27] <ashgarg> macmouse: no, i can boot into and use the mac os perfectly fine. i just cant access the external hdd from it and need to copy the data somehow
[21:27] <macmouse> ashgarg: yeah... how did you format that external HD?
[21:27] <daigorobr> Ven]n: You could go to #ubuntu-eee
[21:27] <Ven]n> daigorobr: and i think its a compiz issue.. someone said that compiz was default in ubuntu now
[21:27] <DigiJo_Linux_beg> anyone ever tried to install ubuntu 8.04 on an asus eeepc 701?
[21:27] <macmouse> ashgarg: under linux?
[21:27] <Ven]n> daigorobr: indeed, ty
[21:27] <ashgarg> macmouse: i dont know, is there a way to check?
[21:27] <ompaul> !sa | amine
[21:28] <Gleizer> Hello all
[21:28] <aedrill> well
[21:28] <aedrill> I'll ask once more, maybe
[21:28] <Avenged-Revenge> anyone? after an update that required restart, I lost all sound.
[21:28] <Gleizer> Anybody have problems with no machine nx
[21:28] <trainpic> kikir: OK.  Can you look up the model of Dell PC and tell me what chipset the NIC card uses? It doesn't show up in the lspci file.
[21:28] <ipod_touch> ashgarg, sometimes with my HDD or flash drive, if it doesn't come up on a particular computer or linux, what i do is goto another pc and safely eject the device, then goto linux or the other pc and try again, and it usually works
[21:28] <DigiJo_Linux_beg> all hints i found to get wifi to work dont help
[21:28] <aedrill> could you help me with wine?
[21:28] <macmouse> ashgarg: there is, but I don't know of an easy way to do it
[21:28] <gordonjcp> !ask | aedrill
[21:29] <apophis> !ask | aedrill
[21:29] <apophis> ups sorry
[21:29] <macmouse> ashgarg: maybe sda is the external disk?
[21:29] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: okay i'll try that. it's working successfully with linux, so if i safely eject it from here and then reboot into the mac it may work?
[21:29] <macmouse> ashgarg: is that computer online right now?
[21:29] <Gleizer> Hello, anybody can help me nomachine nx?
[21:29] <daigorobr> DigiJo_Linux_beg: it went smooth for me. Maybe #ubuntu-eee could help.
[21:29] <ashgarg> macmouse: ah you may be riiight
[21:29] <andyca1> Are ati open source drivers comparable to fglrx?
[21:29] <ipod_touch> i would give it a shot
[21:29] <aedrill> so
[21:29] <ashgarg> macmouse: dev/sda6 is "Lacie d2 120gb"
[21:29] <ipod_touch> because sometimes even my devices do that
[21:29] <trainpic> andyca1: no not really
[21:30] <daigorobr> andycal: for me (xpress 200m) they are better.
[21:30] <AHA> I just installed ubuntu 8.04 and it finds my wireless network fine, but when i try to connect to it i just get the blue spinning circle with the two grey dots and it doesn't connect
[21:30] <DigiJo_Linux_beg> oki thx, i try that channel
[21:30] <ashgarg> macmouse: unfortunately that computer is not online right now
[21:30] <MrKeuner> hi all, has Ubuntu switch to some different updating policy. I do not remember installing that much updates in feisty. Don;t get me wrong i am happy with frequent updates, just curious
[21:30] <trainpic> AHA: are u using WPA or WEP?
[21:30] <macmouse> ashgarg: ok, so that makes sense then... so try doing "fdisk /dev/hda" then
[21:30] <arooni> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:30] <arooni> how do i fix?
[21:30] <AHA> trainpic, WPA
[21:30] <DIL> ashgarg: if you boot with knoppix you could chroot and do it that way or just mount as root the drives a use the co command
[21:30] <kikr> trainpic, not sure what went wrong?
[21:30] <gavi> i have an interesting question, if i am using pidgin and a msn user is using msn, can they see if im really not idle? please assume that pidgin is set to be idle on last message sent rather than movement of mouse or keystrokes
[21:30] <aedrill> I have installed wine, and then I tried to run Baldurs Gate from CD, what should I do, to force Wine to run setup.exe?
[21:30] <DIL> ashgarg: cp command
[21:31] <blumm> hello
[21:31] <Gleizer> Crash installation nxserver, anybody help...
[21:31] <daigorobr> arooni: xmms2, maybe
[21:31] <EvilDennisR> gavi: I don't think msn reports idle times
[21:31] <blumm> does anybody know how to port-forward within virtualbox ?
[21:31] <Avenged-Revenge> sound not working after update... anyone got any idea
[21:31] <Avenged-Revenge> s
[21:31] <trainpic> kikr: No, the kernel doesn't even detect your card as hardware. See if the card is PCI and if so is it slotted fully
[21:31] <ashgarg> macmouse: that makes sense.. it is the hda drive
[21:31] <gavi> EvilDennisR, are u sure, i think the windows live might
[21:31] <arooni> daigorobr, is there a gUI for that?
[21:31] <trainpic> APA: did it ask you for the passphrase?
[21:31] <ipod_touch> ashgarg, did it work at all?
[21:31] <db92> linux insists on making me have the monitors refresh rate lower than it normally should be... how can i increase it anyway to what its meant to work with? >>
[21:32] <apophis> MrKeuner, 8.04 is still young and some major bugs were found (the worst bug ever too :)) will probably settle (thats IMHO)
[21:32] <daigorobr> arooni: synaptic.
[21:32] <macmouse> ashgarg: ok, so try the same thing but with /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2,etc
[21:32] <daigorobr> arooni: under system -> admin
[21:32] <arooni> daigorobr, no;;  xmms2 appears to be command line only
[21:32] <EvilDennisR> gavi: Leme ask..
[21:32] <gavi> im gona ask in windows
[21:32] <MrKeuner> apophis: which specific bug are you refering to as the worst
[21:32] <ipod_touch> Safely unmount it, then try using the HDD on a Mac
[21:32] <EvilDennisR> gavi: I'm 99% sure though
[21:32] <ashgarg> macmouse: trying to mount it now
[21:32] <gavi> EvilDennisR, ok thanks
[21:32] <gavi> EvilDennisR, you could be right
[21:32] <daigorobr> arooni: no luck, then. Sorry.
[21:33] <apophis> MrKeuner, the debian SSH bug which was probably the most expensive and most severe bug ever found in open source software, the imparct was huge
[21:33] <yooshi> how do I install a key? I want to install google picasa but google is saying I need to install a key first
[21:33] <gavi> i wouldnt be supprised if you were right!
[21:33] <Neku> how do u download last fm tracks on ubuntu?
[21:33] <GUARDiAN-> i'm trying to use pulseaudio on hardy, but when running "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start" i just get the prompt again and there's no pulseaudio-process running. any ideas what might be wrong here?
[21:33] <MrKeuner> apophis: ah, I know that one a little. But what is huge about it?
[21:33] <macmouse> does anyone know if ubuntu re-formats external drives as ext2 by default?
[21:33] <ashgarg> macmouse: you're my hero!!
[21:33] <MrKeuner> macmouse: not if you do not ask it to do
[21:34] <daigorobr> arooni: in fact, i see no xmms in my repos either.
[21:34] <arooni> daigorobr, wonder what happened
[21:34] <macmouse> ashgarg: whew!
[21:34] <joaopinto> macd, ubuntu does not reformat external drives unless you tell him to do so, with the format you specify
[21:34] <TuniX12> hello is this story true : http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/07/ubuntu-remix-codecs/
[21:34] <apophis> MrKeuner, Every single encrypted connection in the last 2 years with a debian (and derivates like ubunut) machine was basically unencrypted, :) lets hope your bank hasnt used ubunutu
[21:34] <ashgarg> macmouse: thank you so much, i really appreciate it. you guys are amazing - this will help a lot
[21:34] <joaopinto> TuniX12, keep on topic !
[21:34] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: you too, thanks a lot - loads of help
[21:34] <ipod_touch> did it ever show up on the mac?
[21:34] <macmouse> ashgarg: make sure to not touch/write any new files to it, only read the files
[21:34] <MrKeuner> apophis: but isn't that true for all root exploits
[21:35] <enneth> Alright.. I'm soon gonna freak out. NOTHING works when I remove a harddisk that is not the root disk. If I remove it it just runs a check on the disk and says that the file system contains errors.. Is it really impossible to remove ONE worthless disk and then everything f*cks up?
[21:35] <TuniX12> joaopinto: so it is true!!
[21:35] <Gleizer> nxserver troubles installation... help!
[21:35] <TuniX12> OMG
[21:35] <goldins> hello
[21:35] <MrKeuner> apophis: I am aware that ssh bug is not a root exploit
[21:35] <daigorobr> arooni: lemme check if it is in any ppa
[21:35] <goldins> for some reason the new firefox refuses to connect through a proxy :-/
[21:35] <enneth> The root disk contains errors i.e.
[21:35] <ashgarg> ipod_touch: i havent tried that yet, will do so soon..
[21:35] <joaopinto> TuniX12, do not be dumb, it is not true, but this is not to chat about every news that some people decides to write, if your question is not support related, use ubuntu offtopic instead
[21:35] <ashgarg> macmouse: i'll make sure only to read stuff.. thanks!
[21:35] <ipod_touch> ok, i hope my trick works for you.
[21:36] <enneth> The disk I am removing is not even in GRUB, som what could be the problem?
[21:36] <daigorobr> arooni: https://launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive
[21:36] <trainpic> While I wait for the people I'm helping, where would I ask about the inclusion of the MadWifi drivers that support the AR242x under AMD64? I hate recompiling for every new kernel :-|
[21:37] <apophis> MrKeuner, The Problem is that SSL is so widely used :) Your encrypted emails could've been compromized, encryption is everywhere :)
[21:37] <daigorobr> trainpic: I think madwifi is tainted by non-gpl code. so it won't be included.
[21:37] <kikr> trainpic, i just checked. it is integrated into the mother board
[21:38] <MrKeuner> apophis: I understand but there will always be bugs in any software
[21:38] <arooni> daigorobr, whats that
[21:38] <daigorobr> arooni: it is a repository with xmms in it.
[21:38] <trainpic> But it is in restricted... because it is used for other Atheros cards. I have had other Atheros cards use and included madwifi driver on Ubuntu. I know it's there, I just need the latest version
[21:38] <MrKeuner> apophis: assuming good people are more than bad people we will detect them before much happens
[21:38] <apophis> MrKeuner, yes! But not every bug has such an impact ;) I dont care if FF3 crashes every 3 months
[21:38] <daigorobr> arooni: xmms was removed due to numerous crashes, apparently.
[21:39] <tara0101> hi i'm in gutsy and my sound stopped working. what do I do?
[21:39] <X-tremAl_Raven> "Error inserting processor" - da hell does that mean?!!!
[21:39] <apophis> lol
[21:39] <Linux-Dream> #nautilus
[21:39] <joaopinto> MrKeuner, it is huge in the sense that if you ssh for trusted no password logins, someone has the potential to login into your system with a minimal effort
[21:39] <joaopinto> if you use..
[21:39] <trainpic> tara0101: what happened to make your sound stop working? did you change a setting, install something?
[21:39] <trainpic> Did anything seemingly related happen before that?
[21:40] <MrKeuner> joaopinto: with that user's rights, yes
[21:40] <tara0101> trainpic: there was a system update thing, then it asked me to restart. Upon restart I lost all sound
[21:40] <Gleizer> nxserver, anybody can help me?
[21:40] <tara0101> and I lost all my sliders
[21:40] <blumm> can anybody tell me how to forward a port under virtualbox ?
[21:40] <tara0101> I only have "master" and "pcm" now
[21:40] <yooshi> I setup a repository, how do I use the source now?
 Same shit as tara0101 has. But I lost CPU freq scaling and WiFi!
[21:40] <trainpic> hm... try booting with the previous kernel, (select under grub at boot) see if that helps.
[21:41] <thiebaude> tara0101:reinstall your sound driver
[21:41] <Neku> how do u download last fm tracks on ubuntu?
[21:41] <daigorobr> blumm: is it even possible?
[21:41] <tara0101> thiebaude how would I do that??
[21:41] <trainpic> XtremAlRaven: try the same
[21:41] <blumm> daigorobr: i hope so :)
[21:41] <joaopinto> MrKeuner, yes, the ability to be able to remote login with a server which is not owned by you, is a severe problem
[21:41] <trainpic> tara: drivers are part of the kernel, see what I said
[21:41] <Signil> Hi I get this message "This AVI file is broken. Seeking will not work correctly. " with VLC any1 have any ideas?
 Ok. But that would mean that this was a pretty shity new kernel!
[21:42] <apophis> !codecs | Signil
[21:42] <joth> Can someone please help me connect to my wireless network?
[21:42] <airstrikeivanov> Hello everyone. How do I find out what processors I have installed?
[21:42] <NetEcho> if I move .wav files into /usr/share/sounds/  how do I make it so I can preview them when I set them in the sounds preferences?
[21:42] <joth> The card seems to be working, but it's not detecting any wireless networks when it scans.
[21:43] <keegan> hello , how do i set up a ad-hoc network on ubuntu ,
[21:43] <tara0101> trainpic, were you telling me to use the old kernel?
[21:43] <joaopinto> airstrike, from a terminal type: lshw
[21:43] <keegan> hello , how do i set up a ad-hoc network on ubuntu ,  can u direct me to some documentation
[21:43] <kikr> trainpic, wow. it appears that the owner disabled the integrated network interface in the bios :(
[21:44] <yooshi> how do I use software from a repository I setup in hardy?
[21:44] <trainpic> if you reenable it does that fix things?
[21:44] <trainpic> tara: yes
[21:44] <airstrikeivanov> Sweet
[21:45] <airstrikeivanov> I -thought- something was up when my System Monitor reported TWO cpus
[21:45] <airstrikeivanov> lshw only reports a single 3.0GHz P4
[21:45] <joaopinto> airstrike, maybe you are using hyperthreading ?
[21:45] <airstrike> someone stole my nickname :(
[21:46] <kikr> trainpic, yeah it works now
[21:46] <airstrikeivanov> Oh, true, I am
[21:46] <kikr> thanks
[21:46] <airstrikeivanov> It has HT enabled
[21:46] <trainpic> kikr: cool, glad you found the problem
[21:46] <airstrikeivanov> I've never had or used Hyperthreading before though so I don't know how it works
[21:46] <yooshi> has anyone here used repositories?
[21:46] <joaopinto> airstrikeivanov, that explains it, for the software it's seen as 2 cpus ;)
[21:46] <joaopinto> yooshi, everyone which installs software...
[21:47] <ompaul> yooshi, you do every time you do a security update and it is now most of us add software to systems
[21:47] <airstrikeivanov> Oh nice
[21:47] <NetEcho> howcome when I try to change system sounds to another .wav file it doesn't work
[21:47] <yooshi> ompaul: even if I use the add/remove to add software?
[21:47] <joaopinto> yooshi, yes
[21:48] <gordonjcp> ompaul: speak for yourself, I add software to systems by hand-carving the bits on the drive platters with tiny tiny chisels
[21:48] <ompaul> yooshi, if you use the system tools yes
 Rebooted using previous kernel. Still got nothing good.
[21:48] <yooshi> joapinto: ok well I setup a repository manually to get google picasa but now how do I add that software?
[21:48] <airstrikeivanov> Hm, what is seahorse-agent and vino-server?
[21:48] <airstrikeivanov> I've never seen those before.
[21:49]  * yooshi prefers the system tools it knows where to put them and all that... less hassle by hand
[21:49] <keegan> how do i set up a ad-hoc network on ubuntu
[21:49] <yooshi> ofc I could install it without using the repro but then again
[21:49] <keegan> can u direct me to some documentation
[21:49] <yooshi> and I think repros help with getting updates better
[21:49] <jake_needs_help> Can I get some assistance troubleshooting my Ethernet connection on 8.04 please?
[21:50] <joth> When I restart the driver using modprobe, it detects the network, but then stops almost immediately. Any ideas?
[21:50] <gordonjcp> !ask | jake_needs_help
[21:50] <yooshi> ompaul: so I added a repository how do I use the software then? its not listed in add/remove
[21:50] <peter86> Hello
[21:50] <peter86> Im looking for help with NVIDIA drivers for ubuntu
[21:50]  * Narcissus waves
[21:50] <joaopinto> yooshi, Synaptic Package manager, make sure you update the repositories info, then search for picasa
[21:50] <Flannel> yooshi: Add/remove only lists a small portion of all the software in the repositories.  You should use synaptic package manager to see everything
[21:50] <Narcissus> How can I help you peter86?
[21:50] <vocx> yooshi, if you have the repo in your "sources.list" then type "sudo aptitude install <package>"  where package would be picassa or however it is named.
[21:51] <yooshi> ahh ok ty
[21:51] <peter86> Narcissus, I heard, that installing nvidia graphic cards is very easy under Ubuntu
[21:51] <ompaul> !3rdparty | yooshi
[21:51] <yooshi> blah I gotta restart, I changed the hostname
[21:51] <yooshi> brb
[21:51] <X-tremAl_Raven> sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq: WARNING: Error inserting processor (/lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/processor.ko): No such device --- da hell does that mean?!!!
[21:51] <Narcissus> Yes peter86?
[21:51] <peter86> Narcissus, I have downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run from nvidia.com but cant run it under x
[21:52] <jake_needs_help> ubottu - Thanks for the tip!:)
[21:52] <dbbolton> how can i get firefox 3 to preview image files rather than downloading them?
[21:52] <Narcissus> Two seconds, I'll just check the file out
[21:52] <peter86> Narcissus, also, under console, the message apears to shut down X before installing
[21:52] <dfgas> geforce 4 mx440 what nvidia driver should i use on 8.04?
[21:52] <koki__> guys, my krusader always crashes when i try to copy some file with special characters in it, can i do anything to prevent this? (apart from renaming the file)
[21:53] <metrekare> Hello. I just removed firefox 2 from synaptic, and installed firefox 3, but now it doesn't work. what can I do?
[21:53] <Narcissus> peter86, what is your graphics card make and model?
[21:53] <airstrikeivanov> What is seahorse-agent and vino-server?
[21:53] <geolr> Hi all, I read about that my openssh packages which were held back by apt-get update will be installed by dist-upgrade. So what does cause this difference?
[21:53] <peter86> Narcissus, Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS
[21:53] <adam7> metrekare: what version of Ubuntu?
[21:53] <airstrikeivanov> I have no idea what those processess are, but they're running.
[21:53] <ipei> Hi all happy Ubuntuists! I have a proboblem with my mainmachine. I tried to install nvidia drivers, but now I just get "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" Eaven if I try to uninstall them and install via the packagemanager. Please help! :'(
[21:54] <joaopinto> metrekare, are you using hardy ?
[21:54] <vocx> koki__, what is krusader, what special characters? it may mean is has no support for unicode, you may ask the developers or file a bug report.
[21:54] <koki__> vocx: file manager for KDE
[21:54] <metrekare> adam7:gutsy gibbon
[21:54] <Narcissus> Have you tried sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run peter86?
[21:54] <peter86> Narcissus, its my first ubuntu right now. Under debian with ati cards and fglrx I havant any problems
[21:54] <koki__> vocx: possibly, i guess i'll need to look around for UTF support then
[21:54] <metrekare> joaopinto: no?
[21:54] <adam7> metrekare, if you run firefox from the command line, what do you get? (just open the terminal and type firefox)
[21:54] <Narcissus> do "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run" then
[21:55] <vocx> koki__, is that a new file manager?
[21:55] <koki__> nope
[21:55] <peter86> Narcissus, yes - exactly sudo sh NVIDIA(...).run - the installer is running but it says Im under X server
[21:55] <joaopinto> peter86, I have the same card and I am using the drivers from the repositories, no problems
[21:55] <koki__> it's here for some time, remember using it with kubuntu 6.04
[21:55] <metrekare> adam7:it says it isn't installed
[21:55] <adam7> ok
[21:55] <a1> metrekare: go to synaptics package manager and uninstall ff3 and use ff2 instead i fyou haven't  uninstalled that.
[21:55] <adam7> metrekare, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[21:56] <joaopinto> peter86, you should not install from nvidia unless you have a strong reason to do so
[21:56] <peter86> joaopinto, yes, it works fine, but I would like to see the diffrence betwen open and closed drivers
[21:56] <jrib> peter86: erm, the closed ones are in the repositories
[21:56] <metrekare> adam7:ok, but I'm sure I have installed it, it is in my start list. I install again anyway
[21:56] <joaopinto> peter86, erm, the one from the repositories is also closed, i mean, if you are using the restricted driver
[21:56] <peter86> joaopinto, jrib hm... how to check drivers version?
[21:56] <Narcissus> Try this peter86 "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[21:56] <superkuh> I'm on  8.04. I have an USB mass storage device camera that's automounted upon connection. Under 'System: Preferences: Removable Drives and Media' I have unchecked under "digital camera" the "Import digital photographs when connected" option, but fspot still opens (and subsequently crashes) every time I plug in my camera. Is there a configuation file on disk I can edit?
[21:56] <adam7> metrekare, wait, try this: firefox3 at the terminal
[21:57] <peter86> Narcissus, I did that five minutes ago, also nvidia-settings or smth like that
[21:57] <metrekare> adam7: firefox3: command not found
[21:57] <joaopinto> peter86,  grep driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log, nvidia_drv.so is the closed (3d enabled)
[21:57] <joaopinto> metrekare, the command is firefox
[21:58] <adam7> metrekare, ok, try this: firefox<tab> (in other words, type the word firefox, and then press tab)
[21:58] <vocx> superkuh, also check out the launchpad page, maybe it's a know issue for fspot
[21:58] <ipei> Can someone help me with nvidia drivers and "Ubuntu is running in low graph mode"? Please
[21:58] <superkuh> Okay. Thanks vocx.
[21:58] <Narcissus> idk then peter86 -
[21:58] <metrekare> adam7, firefox-3.0
[21:58] <metrekare> *NOTICE* No previous firefox-3.0 profile found, we'll initialize a profile using a copy of your existing 'firefox' profile.
[21:58] <metrekare> Transfering...cp: "/home/unal/.mozilla/firefox-3.0" dizini oluşturulamıyor: No space left on device
[21:58] <metrekare>  done.
[21:58] <metrekare> (firefox-3.0:5818): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[21:58] <metrekare> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[21:58] <FloodBot3> metrekare: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:58] <peter86> joaopinto, X.Org XInput driver : 2.0
[21:59] <a1> ipe: u want 2 run in high graphics mode?
[21:59] <adam7> metrekare, whoops ;)
[21:59] <joaopinto> metrekare, you are out of disk space
[21:59] <peter86> Narcissus, idk? command?
[21:59] <adam7> !pastebin | metrekare
[21:59] <Narcissus> idk = I dont know
[21:59] <joaopinto> peter86, not that part, its the load driver msg
[21:59] <peter86> Narcissus, =]
[21:59] <koki__> vocx: well, it seems that every 'file copy' aplication just crashes
[21:59] <koki__> as all of them use the default linux file copy thing i guess
[21:59] <metrekare> adam7: ok thanx, sorry for the flood
[21:59] <adam7> metrekare, no worries :)
[22:00] <vocx> koki__, seems such a big issue for a file manager, maybe it's something else. Have you done anything strange lately?
[22:00] <joth> Can anybody please help? My wireless card sometimes detects a network on a scan, but then it doesn't for ages. Any ideas?
[22:00] <peter86> joaopinto, what versions of drivers do you have?
[22:00] <ipei> a, did you mean "ipei"? :)
[22:00] <kikr> hmm... i click the firefox icon, then the mouse changes. but firefox doesn't load. what's up with that
[22:00] <ipei> al*
[22:00] <koki__> vocx: not really
[22:01] <Jigme_Datse> joth: maybe there isn't a network that it can connect to?
[22:01] <koki__> i'll try copying it with console
[22:01] <joth> There is, because it can detect it and start to connect sometimes - but then it stops, and can't detect it any more.
[22:01] <joaopinto> peter86, the one available on the repositories
[22:01] <joth> And other laptops can connect to the network fine.
[22:01] <joaopinto> peter86, apt-cache show nvidia-glx-new | grep -i Version
[22:02] <ipei> al, Yes I wan't to run in high graphics mode. :)
[22:02] <a1> ipei: yes
[22:02] <apophis> kikr, open a console and enter: firefox that way you can see a possible error message
[22:02] <peter86> joaopinto, Version: 169.12+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.34?
[22:02] <Chrysalis> when do you use gksu or gksudo or sudo whats the difference?
[22:02] <joaopinto> peter86, assuming you have nvidia-glx-new installed, yes
[22:02] <ipei> al, sorry. Didn't see you msg. But, yes, I want to run in high graphic mode.
[22:03] <vocx> !sudo | Chrysalis
[22:03] <peter86> joaopinto, is nvidia-glx-new drivers closed or open ones?
[22:03] <joaopinto> Chrysalis, gksudo addresses some environment setup specific to graphical apps, unlike sudo
[22:03] <joaopinto> peter86, closed
[22:03] <a1> ipei:   goto System>Preferance>Apearance>Visual effects and chose the one u want
[22:03] <vocx> !gksudo | Chrysalis
[22:03] <peter86> joaopinto, does ubuntu has some 3d application where can I practicaly see the efect of good working drivers?
[22:04] <joaopinto> peter86, glxinfo | grep -i direct
[22:04] <joaopinto> of you want pratice, just install a 3d game, example, nexuiz
[22:04] <ipei> al, But the problöem is that I can't enable nvidias accelerated driver. If I do so Ubuntu just start in "Low graph mode" and I need to reset my xorg.conf file via recoverymode
[22:05] <J2> i just noticed my system doesnt like it when i do suspend. so now i was fixing my partitions using "sudo fsck -y -t ext3 /dev/xxxx"
[22:05] <J2> worked well on all partitions but one where I get bla blabla "Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/xxxx"
[22:05] <J2> any ideas?
[22:05] <peter86> joaopinto, http://pastebin.com/mc9fd437
[22:05] <peter86> seems like it dont work
[22:05] <vocx> J2, don't manipulate partitions if they are mounted
[22:05] <DRebellion> J2, well, the "magic number" is used to identify file types/filesystems, etc.
[22:06] <a1> ipei: have u gone to system>administration>hardware drivers ?
[22:06] <peter86> joaopinto, i tried to install those closed drivers from nvidia site, meaby I just broke something
[22:06] <J2> vocx / Drebellion - they arent mounted since ubuntu doesnt even recognize what sorf of partition it is since I did suspend
[22:06] <jonsmith420> im new to linux i have installed wubi on my sony vaio laptop nr series, my wireless card isnt working can someone help me?????????//
[22:06] <ipei> Yes.  So now I can't enable it.
[22:06] <vocx> J2, that sounds a bit extreme!
[22:06] <Boopop> Can someone help me with mymacbook's touchpad?
[22:07] <jonsmith420> im new to linux i have installed wubi on my sony vaio laptop nr series, my wireless card isnt working can someone help me?????????//
[22:07] <joaopinto> peter86, I dont use the nvidia installer for a long time, eventually you have installed them over the package ones
[22:07] <J2> drebellion / vocx - linux couldnt recognize any of the partitions, but after i did the fsck they all got fixed but this last one (the most important one!!!)
[22:07] <peter86> joaopinto, how to get back - to first drivers version?
[22:07] <Boopop> On OSX I hardly have to touch the trackpad to move the cursor, whereas on ubuntu I have to press my finger down - Which option do I change in xorg.conf to change this?
[22:07] <evilbug> Boopop- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[22:08] <Boopop> Yes I've looked at that
[22:08] <joaopinto> peter86, does the nvidia script provide an uninstall option ?
[22:08] <vocx> J2, I would say this is a job for "rebooting" !!!  It also works in Linux.
[22:08] <Boopop> but it doesn't mention my problem
[22:08] <evilbug> Boopop- i've had that issue with 7.10 but it worked fine with 8.04
[22:08] <J2> vocx - hm... gonna try that...
[22:08] <peter86> joaopinto, the problem is that, I havent install those drivers... I just tried - but the installer says Im under X server, and first I have to close it - i didnt
[22:09] <a1> test
[22:09] <Boopop> Evilbug - Could you copy and paste your xorg.conf file somewhere for me?
[22:09] <evilbug> Boopop- are you running hardy?
[22:09] <Boopop> yeah
[22:09] <Baltazaar> Hi what is the easiest app to use to rip a movie DVD to a regular sized DVD-R, that will play on a regular DVD player?
[22:09] <Boopop> evilbug - can you paste your xorg.conf somewhere so I can try your trackpad config
[22:09] <evilbug> Boopop- i'm in os x now,what changes have you made from the fresh install?
[22:10] <peter86> joaopinto, Onces I have seen some driver center in ubuntu - where my friend could install all needed stuf
[22:10] <ipei> al, I just tested to start ubuntu with the older kernel number or something in the grub menu... It worked with that. I believe that the nvidia driver did something strange...
[22:10] <superkuh> The launchpad server hosting f-spot-import source is currently timing out on the server side. Can someone direct me to another mirror?
[22:10] <jonsmith420> im new to linux i have installed wubi on my sony vaio laptop nr series, my wireless card isnt working can someone help me?????????//
[22:10] <Boopop> evilbug - I've copied the options example at the bottom of the first post at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493758
[22:10] <evilbug> Boopop- the thing is that i didn't install anything for the trackpad,i just left it alone.
[22:10] <happymonkey> can someone confirm or deny that Ctrl-Alt-L which should lock the screen using gnome-screensaver is not in 8.04?
[22:11] <apophis> Baltazaar, sudo apt-get install dvd95 , or search in / system / admin / synaptic for dvd95
[22:11] <unstable> What is the easiest way to take raw DV video files, cut them up, to take out some stuff, and add a voice over to them with my microphone. WHat software can do this easily?
[22:11] <evilbug> Boopop- and the trackpad option in System>Preferences>Mouse was still there (unlike 7.10)
[22:11] <ipei> al, I don't really know the difference between the chooices in the menu... But the previous worked... But How can I solve that?
[22:11] <peter86> joaopinto, I just run some drivers program, and it get me back to first configuration
[22:11] <nickrud> ipei, did you reinstall the nvidia driver for the new kernel? Has to be done each time you update the kernel for drivers from outside of ubuntu
[22:11] <evilbug> Boopop- first i'd suggest uninstalling anything you've installed for the trackpad.
[22:11] <happymonkey> please
[22:11] <Baltazaar> apophis: dvd95? console based?
[22:11] <peter86> joaopinto, also direct redendering is yes
[22:12] <geirha> happymonkey: I use that often in hardy. Check system -> prefs -> Keyboard shortcuts
[22:12] <evilbug> unstable- kino?
[22:12] <Boopop> evilbug - all I did was change the options in xorg
[22:12] <bb-lap> im curious does any1 use logmein.com for remote to access a windows machine via linux?
[22:12] <a1> hang on....
[22:12] <ipei> nickrud: Sorry, I didn't really get it... Reinstall what? :/
[22:12] <Boopop> evilbug - it wasn't working very well in the first place
[22:12] <evilbug> Boopop- give me one sec,let me reboot.brb.
[22:12] <apophis> Baltazaar, no its gnome
[22:12] <happymonkey> geirha: I'm saying it is not working on my computer
[22:12] <nickrud> ipei, the nvidia driver you got from nvidia.com
[22:12] <Boopop> evilbug - Great, thanks
[22:12] <Baltazaar> ok... Thanks apophis... Been stressing around with dvd::rip
[22:13] <geirha> happymonkey: even though it's set as a shortcut?
[22:13] <ipei> nickrud, I did install it after the update of the kernel. So, :'/
[22:13] <yooshi> is there any way to clear the cache or remove install files after a program has already installed or does the os take care of that for you?
[22:13] <happymonkey> geirha: yes, of course
[22:13] <apophis> Baltazaar, you're welcome
[22:13] <jonsmith420> am i on the help channel
[22:13] <nickrud> ipei, heh. that's the reason I tend to avoid 3d party drivers
[22:14] <vocx> superkuh, mmm. here are the bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/f-spot
[22:14] <apophis> yooshi, apt-get purge to force it, apt has a cache but cleans it itself
[22:14] <superkuh> Yeah, I saw those.
[22:14] <joaopinto> yooshi, sudo apt-get clean
[22:14] <yooshi> hey joaopinto, I installed the app from the synaptic but its not in my applications menu, how do I get it there?
[22:14] <nickrud> ipei, more accurately, 3d party drivers that haven't been massaged by people who know what they are doing
[22:14] <superkuh> None covered what I am experiencing. Thank you for your help, though, vocx.
[22:14] <joaopinto> yooshi, what application was it ?
[22:14] <K`zan> just did the upgrade from 7/10 to 8.04 and every damn time I open a link firefox moves to the window that I selected the link from, how do I fix this - rather irritating :-)?
[22:14] <Baltazaar> apophis: and it supports encrypted DVD's too? (for backup off course)
[22:14] <superkuh> For now I'll just have to figure things out through the source.
[22:15] <geirha> happymonkey: that's odd. If you open a terminal and run « tail -f ~/.xsession-error » then hit Ctrl-Alt-L, is there any output?
[22:15] <ipei> nickrud: Ok. But now I can only start ubuntu (with good graphics) in the previous KERNEL. wHAT SHOULD i DO?
[22:15] <ipei> nickrud: Sorry for the caps...
[22:15] <yooshi> joaopinto:  google picasa
[22:15] <geirha> happymonkey: sorry, .xsession-errors (with a plural s)
[22:15] <apophis> Baltazaar, I dont know, you might need some DeCSS to do so
[22:15] <nickrud> K`zan, edit->preferences->tabs, last item on the dialog box
[22:15] <Neku> how do u download last fm tracks on ubuntu?
[22:15] <apophis> Croatia wins against turkey :)
[22:15] <K`zan> nickrud: Thank you sir!
[22:16] <Baltazaar> apophis: have installed libdvdcss...
[22:16] <Boopop> apophis - weren't turkey the favourites?\
[22:16] <ipei> nickrud: Because as it is now the latest kernel will be "auto started"...
[22:16] <vocx> Boopop, turkey favourites, you kidding?
[22:16] <apophis> try it, should work Baltazaar
[22:16] <Boopop> vocx - I don't know, I don't follow football really :P
[22:17] <apophis> Boopop,  :) well the goal was in the 120th minute, so it was an equal game ;D if only zattoo would work with compiz...
[22:17] <vocx> Boopop, you phail at linux and football then
[22:17] <evilbug> Boopop- http://pastebin.com/d6c8c2f70
[22:17] <nickrud> ipei, I'd use the previous kernel for now :) You can designate which kernel gets started in /boot/grub/menu.lst , see the line with default. Start counting with 0, so the one you want is probably 2.
[22:17] <Boopop> Maybe I just don't like football >.>
[22:17] <Boopop> Thanks evilbug !!
[22:17] <apophis> CRO - TUR 1 : 1
[22:17] <apophis> lol
[22:17] <Baltazaar> Just tried out Suse 11... That sucked better than my brand new vacuum cleaner... Been using Ubuntu since 2005, before that, Debian... must say... Ubuntu is the only thing.
[22:17] <vocx> Boopop, goal of Turkey!!!
[22:17] <andyca1> omg
[22:17] <darkdelusions> Compiz is evil :) that is all :)
[22:17] <andyca1> haha
[22:17] <raisefist1> compiz isnt evil
[22:18] <apophis> Compiz is evil when direct rendering is used :OP
[22:18] <Baltazaar> compiz will eventually get usable
[22:18] <ipei> nickrud: Yeah, ok. (This one was the third in the list, yeah :)) But will it be "auto solved" when they reales a new kenel version?
[22:18] <apophis> compiz is already quite usable, but fails with direct rendering :)
[22:18] <vocx> apophis, how can you use it then? I thought Compiz needed direct rendering. I know I can't use it.
[22:19] <Boopop> evilbug - I'll give it a test now
[22:19] <nickrud> compiz is very nice, if you leave out the cube and all the geegaws, and focus on the stuff that makes your desktop workflow easy
[22:19] <yooshi> joaopinto: any idea how to add an app that was added manually?
[22:19] <a1> ipei: goto synaptic package manager... look for nvidia... choose the generic modules you need.
[22:19] <evilbug> Boopop- yeah.
[22:19] <nickrud> ipei, possibly, or there'll be some info on what works on ubuntuforums.org .
[22:19] <Baltazaar> who needs direct rendering? Computers are for writing letters, no?
[22:19] <apophis> vocx, I mean if other software directly draws to the framebuffer, compiz does aswell, which means both application draw and dont know from each other! this gives flickering
[22:20] <ipei> nickrud: Ok. If it doesn' its quite easy to reinstall Ubuntu. :)
[22:20] <yooshi> how do I get that box that I see in the ubuntu tour that you can see more than one desk space or something
[22:20] <Baltazaar> never re-install Linux... Fix it
[22:20] <happymonkey> geirha: thank you I have to restart gnome, I deleted the file
[22:20] <vocx> apophis, ah, but there is no way to use compiz with only software rendering right?
[22:20] <Baltazaar> re-install is for window$
[22:20] <happymonkey> there is some issue
[22:21] <nickrud> ipei, heh. And, <caps> don't use stuff that doesn't come in packages! </caps>
[22:21] <evilbug> Baltazaar- i've reinstalled ubuntu before with no problem :P
[22:21] <Baltazaar> me too
[22:21] <Baltazaar> ...
[22:21] <ipei> al: Yeah I know. I just got the problem half-solved so... Buyt thanks for the help, and thanks Nickrud too! :)
[22:21] <evilbug> Baltazaar- AND windows AND os x.
[22:21] <apophis> vocx, well in principal it should be possible ;) but you dont want it (1 frame per 10 seconds) so its probably never been tried
[22:21] <Baltazaar> Same!
[22:21] <unstable> evilbug: How do I take 6 1 gig DV files, and mesh them together, so I can edit them all at once with kino?
[22:21] <joaopinto> yooshi, try "picasa" from the terminal
[22:21] <vocx> apophis, I know
[22:21] <Boopop> evilbug - Thats fixed it I think, thanks
[22:21] <ipei> nickrud: Yeah... I know, but I thought "nvidia" was a trust able source  :P
[22:22] <yooshi> joaopinto: well I'd like to be able to have it as a menu option too but I'll try that
[22:22] <Baltazaar> Just re-installed Ubuntu on a new 7K SATA disk on my ThinkPad. Runs smooth...
[22:22] <evilbug> unstable- never used it much before...i guess you just import them into the playlist and drag them into the timeline.
[22:22] <joaopinto> yooshi, Righ Click on Applications, Edit Menu
[22:22] <evilbug> unstable- that's what i usually do with final cut pro.
[22:22] <joaopinto> and add a menu entry
[22:22] <evilbug> Boopop- no worries.
[22:22] <crdlb> vocx: what video card do you have?
[22:23] <vocx> crdlb, S3 Unichrome Pro, from VIA
[22:23] <bloodrock> yooshi you could also add a launcher to desktop for that program too
[22:23] <ipei> nickrud: But I'm learning. I wont do that again... -.- Thanks for the help!
[22:23] <evilbug> unstable- once you import them and put them in the timeline,the export will make it one file in the format you want.
[22:24] <crdlb> vocx: it's possible that VIA cards might get good 3d acceleration soon; VIA seems to care about fixing their linux drivers
[22:24] <Baltazaar> Anybody reading the "Official" Ubuntu books? Just subscribed to one from Safari Online... That'll be fun bed reading...
[22:24] <yooshi> bloodrock: don't think I'd want to clutter up my desktop.. wouldn't that slow things down?
[22:24] <NetEcho> Does ubuntu have a control panel like OSX?
[22:24] <vocx> crdlb, considering that this chipset was released around December 2005, it was about time.
[22:24] <bloodrock> yooshi no
[22:24] <yooshi> and yes running picasa from terminal worked and brought up the media detector
[22:25] <Beats> Hey guys im tryiung to play my games and all of them lagg. It just happened. How can i stop this lagg. (The games are running through WINE)
[22:25] <evilbug> NetEcho- not really.
[22:25] <joaopinto> Beats, try asking on #winehq
[22:25] <yooshi> bloodrock: still... too cluttered of a desktop would make me commit suicide :(
[22:25] <evilbug> brb.
[22:25] <apophis> Beats, use a faster computer :)
[22:25] <Beats> I have a fast computer
[22:25] <Beats> it has never lagged
[22:25] <apophis> what Game?
[22:26] <Beats> Counter strike, Half Life, guild wars, Wow,
[22:26] <Beats> all of them
[22:26] <yooshi> are any of them even compatible with wine?
[22:26] <apophis> Well then set your settings lower
[22:26] <apophis> yes they work, but... dont ask ;D
[22:26] <evilbug> back.
[22:26] <apophis> Beats,  lower your settings or get a faster computer :)
[22:26] <yooshi> sure they work.... but
[22:27] <lockd> I installed Ubuntu-server kernel for improved memory but nvidia driver won't load.. is this normal?
[22:27] <vocx> apophis, Turkey can't possibly defeat Germany, no way
[22:27] <lockd> this is a desktop box but I'd rather have the ram
[22:27] <Beats> I have an alienware with Intel core extreme processer i don need a faster computer
[22:27] <bloodrock> yooshi k what bout adding a launcher to your panel
[22:27] <apophis> vocx, But I dont want Germany in a final :P
[22:27] <aguitel> i can't raise/lower/mute volume
[22:27] <vocx> apophis, no other way around it
[22:27] <NetEcho> Core Extreme or Core 2 Extreme?
[22:27] <Baltazaar> lockd: you could just recompile the default...
[22:28] <joaopinto> apophis, if you don't have any wine specific knowledge then it would be smarter to forward the user to #winehq, instead of providing useless help
[22:28] <lockd> Baltazaar: oh, thanks.. well, I'll still have to get the modules for nvidia won't I?
[22:28] <joaopinto> Beats, since your issue is wine specific, please try #winehq
[22:28] <apophis> Beats, you dont get it, do you? Emulation needs time, its normal that its slower under Linux, reduce your settings, you can't expect to be able to play with the same settings as in windows :)
[22:28] <Baltazaar> but the Nvidia driver loads as a module, so if it is under /lib/modules/"your kernel, you could try sudo modprobe nvidia
[22:29] <joaopinto> apophis, again, you are misinformed, wine is not a pure emulator, and some games are know to perform better under wine than they do natively on windows
[22:29] <lockd> Baltazaar: FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[22:29] <apophis> joaopinto, I know!
[22:29] <lockd> Baltazaar: that's when I try to modprobe
[22:29] <apophis> better under wine? ;) lol
[22:30] <Nathan406> can someone tell me a software that installs windows drivers!
[22:30] <aguitel> i can't raise/lower/mute volume any ideas about this problem ?
[22:30] <vocx> Nathan406, it is silly to do that?
[22:30] <Baltazaar> lockd: then install gcc and make, kernel-headers, and build the driver from Nvidia's site
[22:30] <Nathan406> why
[22:31] <brightside> hi.. i have no sound. here is what i know: i have two devices (one onboard, and one pci), but my mixer recognizes both cards, and alsamixer settings are set to high and all channels are unmuted.. still, no sound.. what am i doing wrong?
[22:31] <Nathan406> i cant get my sound card to work
[22:31] <lockd> Baltazaar: it says those are installed.. how can I be sure it's for the server kernel?
[22:31] <vocx> Nathan406, because it not the same operating system?
[22:31] <Baltazaar> the module you use is for the wrong kernel... lockd
[22:31] <joaopinto> Nathan406, you can't use windows drivers on linux, not for a sound card
[22:31] <kikr> anyone ever experience audio not working?
[22:31] <felixflores> hey guys i just did a fresh install of ubuntu 8 and for some reason it didn't detect what video card i have, now its stuck at 800*600 resolution, how should i go about fixing this?
[22:31] <yooshi> how can I get the box on my desktop as shown on the ubuntu tour?
[22:31] <Mo> how do i disable a restricted driver i previously enabled
[22:31] <lockd> Baltazaar: or should I just remove all the other kernels (server and the old one that was updated from)?
[22:31] <Ramzi> can anyone help me install my ATI All in wonder usb 2.0 tv tuner?
[22:31] <Baltazaar> lockd: don't bother...
[22:32] <joaopinto> yooshi, please provide a screenshot link, to see if i am familiar with it
[22:32] <vocx> Mo, what driver?
[22:32] <Mo> ati video
[22:32] <Baltazaar> lockd: just download the right driver from Nvidia
[22:32] <yooshi> ah.. haven't done a screenshot in linux yet... I'll try
[22:32] <Nathan406> my friend install the windows drivers for his video card
[22:32] <Baltazaar> It compiles for the running kernel
[22:32] <kikr> lscpi detects the audio card but i can't hear any sound
[22:32] <Nathan406> and it works
[22:32] <Chrysalis> so basically, sudo for file operation etc and gksu for anything with a gui including gedit. . . i seem to be getting different results wether i use sudo or gksu with gedit, sudo gives me a file that needs premission to open and gksu does not
[22:32] <Nathan406> so i think it may work
[22:33] <Xcaliber009> Can anyone reference a good video DVD creation program?
[22:33] <Mo> vocx: was working just fine, installed the restricted driver, did a bunch of updates, now i get a white screen just after I login
[22:33] <yooshi> that was easy
[22:33] <niku_> Xcaliber009: burning, or movie-dvd?
[22:33] <vocx> Nathan406, you obviously don't know what you are talking about, so I suggest you become more knowledgeable first
[22:33] <Nathan406> so can someone tell me a software that installs windows drivers!
[22:33] <spideyman> Xcaliber009, qdvdauthor is excellent
[22:33] <hard3r> witam
[22:33] <Nathan406> ok!
[22:34] <Baltazaar> Nathan406: ndiswrapper?
[22:34] <hard3r> sa tu jacys polacy ?
[22:34] <frostburn> Nathan406, windows vista
[22:34] <joaopinto> Nathan406, you can't install use windows drivers with linux, except for very specific cases
[22:34] <vocx> Baltazaar, he is trying to install a video card
[22:34] <spideyman> lol
[22:34] <frostburn> as for sound configuration, check out the alsa pages on either ubuntu or gentoo forums
[22:34] <Baltazaar> well that will not work
[22:34] <Baltazaar> different code
[22:34] <Nathan406> let me crash test
[22:35] <K`zan> Anyone know why adept ignores requests to install vmware server?
[22:35] <Nathan406> mess up ma laptop
[22:35] <Nathan406> dont care
[22:35] <joaopinto> K`zan, there is no vmware server available from the repositories...
[22:35] <vocx> Mo, well I think there is some menu under System > Preferences, or maybe just use the oopen source driver "nv"
[22:35] <Baltazaar> Use VESA!
[22:35] <K`zan> joaopinto: Err, adept says there is ?!?!?
[22:36] <spideyman> k'zan really
[22:36] <joaopinto> K`zan, not on the ubuntu repositories, only if you found a 3rd party one for it
[22:36] <frostburn> K`zan, there used to be, not any more, grab the binary from vmware sites and install it manually
[22:36] <Nathan406> so there is no such think
[22:36] <K`zan> frostburn: Got it but evidentally the upgrade to 8.04 hosed it badly - can't remove old thus won't install the new :-(.
[22:36] <Nathan406> thing*
[22:37] <joaopinto> K`zan, you can rm /etc/vmware, that does the trick
[22:37] <vocx> Nathan406, perhaps you should phrase your question better, not as a one-liner
[22:37] <apophis> Anyone else hears this noise from car-horns? ;)
[22:37] <K`zan> joaopinto: Thank you Sir, much appreciated - will give that a go.
[22:37] <frostburn> K`zan, nah just delete out the .. what joaopinto said
[22:37] <niku_> k'zan: I think it just hoses the kernel module
[22:37] <K`zan> also, vmware is in adept...
[22:37] <joaopinto> frostburn, hum ? what's wrong with my advice ?
[22:37] <Nathan406> ok! let me try!
[22:38] <Nathan406> i need a
[22:38] <niku_> you should be able to re-run the install script and it will work again
[22:38] <joaopinto> ah, ops, sorry misunderstood :P
[22:38] <frostburn> joaopinto, nothing, i was about to type the same
[22:38] <Nathan406> window driver installer
[22:38] <Nathan406> so
[22:38] <Nathan406> that
[22:38] <K`zan> vmware server    not installed  no change  Free virtual machine server from VMware
[22:38] <Nathan406> i can install my sound card
[22:38] <frostburn> niku_, usually yes, but the install script is set up to not install if it's already installed, and if it wasn't installed cleanly before, it won't allow any new installations
[22:38]  * DIL says that must be an example of sarcasm
[22:39] <K`zan> updating repos makes no diff, still there.  Strange.
[22:39] <Nathan406> #alsa can help
[22:39] <Nathan406> cant*
[22:39] <frostburn> Nathan406, what sound card is it
[22:39] <niku_> huh, weird
[22:39] <Ramzi> can anyone help me install my ATI All in wonder usb 2.0 tv tuner?
[22:39] <spideyman> k'zan all i see is some widgets and a display driver in addept 8.04
[22:40] <Nathan406> frostburn: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[22:41] <fml> Hello. I have problems with getting a WLAN connection. I use ubuntu 8.04, wlan card is atheros 5007eg (I think). I installed ndiswrapper and the windows driver.
[22:41] <frostburn> Nathan406, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=791028
[22:41] <Ramzi> can anyone help me install my ATI All in wonder usb 2.0 tv tuner?
[22:41] <yooshi> joaopinto: www.thenetdude.com/talktalk/thebox.png
[22:41] <onthefence928> hey i'm trying to get my xbox 360 to play movies that are streamed from my computer. how do i do this using ubuntu hardy?
[22:41] <Nathan406> ok
[22:41] <apophis> !upnp
[22:42] <joaopinto> yooshi, thats a compiz cube
[22:42] <joaopinto> !compiz | yooshi
[22:42] <fml> The wlan is shown in the network manager, and also the name of the wlan router is shown on the DNS tab (it was detected automatically, I didn't enter it).
[22:42] <yooshi> ah ok, is compiz worth using?
[22:42] <Ramzi> can anyone help me install my ATI All in wonder usb 2.0 tv tuner?
[22:42] <apophis> onthefence928,  You need a Upnp server for that... install a upnp server, user / System / Admin / Synaptic and search for upnp or dlna
[22:42] <panthro> any special reasons to upgrade my kernel
[22:42] <ABAydin> http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3884/1161a2eb3f4942a15ht7.jpg
[22:42] <joaopinto> Ramzi, no, and repeating will not help either
[22:42] <ABAydin> eheuheeueheuehe
[22:42] <ABAydin> http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3884/1161a2eb3f4942a15ht7.jpg
[22:43] <onthefence928> apophis: and does it require any sort of configuring?
[22:43] <kikr> guys i can't get audio to work. anyone have any recommendations? lspci detects the audio card but i just can't get audio to work
[22:43] <joaopinto> !ops | ABAydin spamming
[22:43] <bloodrock> ramzi try useing tvtime
[22:43] <apophis> onthefence928, yes it probably needs to know where your vids and music are ... it depends on the different servers how difficult this can be
[22:43] <K`zan> tvtime works good, watching it now :)
[22:43] <onthefence928> !upnp
[22:44] <Ramzi> whats tvtime?
[22:44] <tommy_> how can I check Hardy Ubuntu for keyloggers and spyware and virus?
[22:44] <ABAydin> ubottu shut the fuck up
[22:44] <Tekhne> what's the current software raid standard for linux 2.6 (ubuntu)? is it still mdadm and company?
[22:44] <IndyGunFreak> tommy_: lol
[22:44] <vocx> !info tvtime
[22:44] <bloodrock> ramzi i have a ati all in wonder pci and tvtime was best program
[22:44] <joaopinto> tommy_, there are no known wide programs of that type for Linux
[22:44] <joaopinto> erm, wild
[22:44] <KRF> ubottu, but i think you're more intelligent than abaydin
[22:45] <K`zan> ubotto is ublotto...
[22:45] <yooshi> what do you all recommend for ftp?   All it seems to want to do is open a web connection expecting a logon - any clues appreciated!
[22:51] <yooshi> think I'll go back over those links again
[22:51] <K`zan> Not at all like the vmware that 8.04 killed off :-(.
[22:51] <onthefence928> apophis: ok how do i make it work with my xbox?
[22:52] <Baltazaar> hey... It's friday
[22:52] <offline> hi all
[22:52] <tommy_> IndyGunFreak, so I am safe and can have peace of mind using Ubuntu for my netbanking etc as there is no keylogger or spyware that I need to worry about?
[22:52] <psyco> where are the icons for programs stored??
[22:52] <onthefence928> !xbox
[22:52] <offline> i need help here with my ubuntu hardy
[22:52] <IndyGunFreak> tommy_: sorry, i don't want to come off condescending and arrogant if i answer
[22:52] <tommy_> offline, dont we all ;)
[22:52] <Ayabara> my network setup is broken. when I boot it won't connect to my wlan unless I reconfigure it manually
[22:53] <tommy_> IndyGunFreak, its ok, just answer :)
[22:53] <apophis> onthefence928, Open this in your browser: /var/lib/mediatomb/mediatomb.html
[22:53] <Xcaliber009> offline: state your question, for there might be an answer
[22:53] <Ayabara> how can I delete all the stored network settings to start over?
[22:53] <IndyGunFreak> i'd rather not take the chance.. sorry
[22:53] <broken_quiche1> How do ATi's drivers compare to those of NVidia now-a-days?
[22:53] <tommy_> IndyGunFreak, I understand. thanks anyway
[22:53] <Baltazaar> psyco: spread, but/usr/share/pixmaps would be a starting point
[22:53] <Xcaliber009> ATI has crappy linux support, period
[22:53] <Ick> i opened VI and typed something out. i lost power before i got a chance to save the file, and vim -r doesn't find anything. i need the file pretty badly. what can i do?
[22:53] <tommy_> I am safe and can have peace of mind using Ubuntu for my netbanking etc as there is no keylogger or spyware that I need to worry about?
[22:53] <offline> i got this "failed to add entry to user" everytime i login .. what's wrong ?
[22:53] <psyco> Baltazaar: TY
[22:53] <Oli```> broken_quiche1: still worse although openish and improving faster
[22:53] <broken_quiche1> I see.
[22:54] <broken_quiche1> Best to stick with NVidia then?
[22:54] <tommy_> !keylogger
[22:54] <tommy_> !spyware
[22:54] <Baltazaar> psyco: ?
[22:54] <psyco> yes
[22:54] <offline> pls somebody help me on this
[22:54] <dabaR> how do I set up NTLM authentication for Vinagre?
[22:54] <psyco> I said Ty, as in Thank You.
[22:54] <broken_quiche1> Actually, I guess that would make more sense, since graphics cards are the thigns youre meant to replace fairly frequently if you're serious about high-end gaming according to some folks.
[22:54] <Baltazaar> psyco: TY?
[22:54] <tommy_> does Hardy support digital cameras?
[22:54] <Xcaliber009> broken_quiche1: ATI will work on ubuntu, as my laptop is running 8.04LTS, but it can be tricky to configure
[22:54] <Baltazaar> for what?
[22:55] <Ayabara> where's my network settings stored? like preferred network, wpa-key and stuff
[22:55] <broken_quiche1> Thanks then Oli and Xcaliber00
[22:55] <tommy_> offline, what you want help with?
[22:55] <Oli```> tommy_: you're far less likely to install one unknowingly. Anybody could write a keylogger. Linux won't stop something like that existing
[22:55] <broken_quiche1> Ah, okay Xcaliber009
[22:55] <broken_quiche1> Thanks
[22:55] <rogue_trader> !tired
[22:55] <Xcaliber009> broken_quiche1: my understanding is that Nvidia is just easier to use on linux distros
[22:55] <b4l7424r> i tried updating firefox today in synaptic, but it wasn't able to fetch all the required packages, is this a temporary error?
[22:55] <offline> Tommy :  i got this "failed to add entry to user" everytime i login .. what's wrong ?
[22:55] <Xcaliber009> !tutorial
[22:55] <Baltazaar> b4l7424r: change mirrors
[22:55] <psyco> Baltazaar: Telling me icon path
[22:55] <tommy_> Oli```, so how can I make sure I dont have one installed now?
[22:56] <Baltazaar> psyco: ah... ok...
[22:56] <psyco> lol
[22:56] <b4l7424r> Baltazaar, i'm not sure how to do that, i'm a newbie
[22:56] <stutter> has anyone here successfully gotten synergy to start when GDM starts so you can use your shared mouse & kb to log in?
[22:56] <tommy_> offline, I have never seen that error ever.  Backup your home folder and reinstall Ubuntu
[22:56] <Baltazaar> psyco: have been up for 48 hrs...
[22:56] <tommy_> Oli```, u there?
[22:56] <Oli```> tommy_: there are commercial and free antivirus programs (avg, for example) just like with windows but not running/installing anything from outside the repos is a good start
[22:56] <psyco> hahaha
[22:56] <psyco> nice
[22:57] <tommy_> Oli```, so I should run AVG on Ubuntu to make sure I dnt have a keylogger installed on Hardy?
[22:57] <offline> tommy, reinstall ? oww :D any other advice pls ? thx anyway
[22:57] <stutter> do you mean to say...linux is not impervious to viruses like macs?! OMG!
[22:57] <nalioth> tommy_: you don't have it
[22:57] <b4l7424r> mirror mirror on the wall...
[22:57] <Baltazaar> b4l7424r: open /etc/apt/sources.list, and try changing the two letter code with a nearby country...
[22:57] <nalioth> tommy_: it was an affliction that affected Windows software
[22:57] <Pici> tommy_: Did you read the link from the bot about viruses on windows?
[22:57] <tommy_> offline, there is no other advice as the error: ""failed to add entry to user" is unknown to us here it seems
[22:57] <Pici> er, linux rather.
[22:57] <b4l7424r> Baltazaar, ok, thanks
[22:57] <joaopinto> tommy_, did you read my previous answer to your question ?
[22:57] <tommy_> nalioth, what dont I have?
[22:58] <nalioth> tommy_: windows problems
[22:58] <Baltazaar> b4l7424r: maybe check ubuntu mirrors first...
[22:58] <TuniX12> lol many banned guys today
[22:58] <whitekidney> how do i update my video card drivers? (i have a gainward gefirce 8500gt)
[22:58] <offline> ok thank you tommy
[22:58] <Oli```> tommy_: I'm not telling you that. I'm saying you *can* use an antivirus to check now but unless you're planning on downloading random untrusted source code or binaries and running those, you should be fine
[22:58] <Baltazaar> whitekidney: go to a computerstore and say: this sucks
[22:58] <apophis> !upnp is To Stream Media to other upnp aware devices (Like XBox, PS3, iRadio or other PC's) you need a upnp Server, ubuntu Repositories (search in / System / Admin / Synaptic Packet Manager for upnp or dlna) MediaTomb is an example upnp Server with Web Interface (sudo apt-get install mediatomb) (web UI: /var/lib/mediatomb/mediatomb.html) (docu: http://mediatomb.cc/)
[22:58] <tommy_> joaopinto, sorry I missed it, please tell me again
[22:58] <tommy_> nalioth, how can I be sure I dont have any keylogger or spyware etc already on Hardy now?
[22:58] <whitekidney> thats obviously not funny.
[22:59] <whitekidney> how do i update my video card drivers? (i have a gainward gefirce 8500gt)
[22:59] <whitekidney> uh oh, geforce *
[22:59] <tommy_> Oli```, I have installed 2 3rd party apps, how can I check they are ok?
[22:59] <joaopinto> tommy_, at the present time there is no know malware on the wild for linux
[22:59] <Baltazaar> whitekidney: that has a Nvidia chip
[22:59] <Oli```> tommy_: btw, the same goes for Windows. Keep the system patched and updated and you'll be fine 99.999% of the time.
[22:59] <tommy_> joaopinto, ok
[22:59] <stutter> has anyone successfully gotten synergy to start with gdm so you can use a shared keyboard to log in?
[22:59] <Baltazaar> so install Nvidia drivers whitekidney
[22:59] <nalioth> tommy_: theres no such thing as what you describe
[22:59] <whitekidney> Baltazaar : How ?
[22:59] <tommy_> Oli```, are you claiming that MS windows updates clean spyware and virus?
[22:59] <whitekidney> im new to linux, i need more in depth infomation
[23:00] <Baltazaar> oh-jesus
[23:00] <yooshi> oops
[23:00] <dabaR> How do I set up a VNC connection to a PC that expects NTLM authentication.
[23:00] <juanfotos> hi!
[23:00] <tommy_> nalioth, ok so I can use Hardy confidently for netbanking etc and copying and pasting text from a text file into the website forms?
[23:00] <fredo1969> hello
[23:00] <Oli```> tommy_: No. Not installing malware kind of goes without saying.
[23:00] <yooshi> killall gdm does a lot :P
[23:00] <joaopinto> tommy_, yes
[23:00] <tommy_> whitekidney, do you seek a black kidney? :)
[23:00] <juanfotos> hello Fredo...
[23:00] <nalioth> tommy_: nothing is keeping you from pasting stuff into a phishing site
[23:00] <tommy_> Oli```, I cant use Hardy confidently?
[23:01] <whitekidney> for god sake, help me
[23:01] <juanfotos> fredo, do you speak spanish?
[23:01] <joaopinto> !es | juanfotos
[23:01] <bloodrock> offline you might try doing a google for the error
[23:01] <J2> guys what can i do when fsck gives me smth about "Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open device xxx"?
[23:01] <Bart_Burroughs> trying to see my ubuntu box from my windows xp machine. I can see the xp box from ubuntu but not the other way around. wireless by the way. any ideas?
[23:01] <tommy_> nalioth, i type the banks website evert time.  so with that in mind, what else I need to be concerned about?
[23:01] <whitekidney> what do i type in the terminal do get my nvidia drivers?
[23:01] <yooshi> malware on linux?
[23:01] <joaopinto> J2, I would search for the backups of that device :P
[23:01] <nalioth> tommy_: so long as you are using a https:// known banking site, not much, i guess
[23:01] <revilodraw> ok this is really annoying me! i have a dell inspiron 6400 core2due t7200 with 2gb ram - is it amd64 or i386?
[23:01] <Oli```> tommy_: I believe you're being deliberately abrasive now. Unless you're here for actual support (giving or receiving), please clear off.
[23:01] <juanfotos> gracias...
[23:01] <vocx> tommy_, if you are so afraid of potential malware you shouldn't be using computers at all, there is no such thing as a perfect protection. But generally speaking you should fine.
[23:01] <Baltazaar> can't believe what folks in #slackware would say... Maybe: The support chain is: 1. Wiki / Web / Google, 2. Forum search, 3. IRC
[23:02] <yooshi> !compiz
[23:02] <J2> joaopinto - thanks thats realy confortable to hear ^_^
[23:02] <tommy_> Oli```, thou shalt not judge because your assuming to know my intentions.
[23:02] <whitekidney> what do i type in the terminal do get my nvidia drivers?
[23:02] <amikrop> Where can I set which Window Decorator I want to use (I bet, in some file, I replace the word "gtk-window-decorator" with the word "foo", where "foo" is the window decorator of my choice)?
[23:02] <tommy_> Oli```, you are now on ignore
[23:02] <Pici> Baltazaar: Well, you aren't in #slackware...
[23:02] <tommy_> vocx, ok thanks
[23:02] <Baltazaar> whitekidney: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[23:02] <J2> bart_burroughts - you have to put your ubuntu box into the same workgroup as the windows group
[23:02] <offline> bloodrock, i've search for the error @google, nothing found
[23:02] <joaopinto> J2, what the partition formatted ?
[23:03] <tommy_> whitekidney, http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_to_install_Nvidia_driver_in_Ubuntu_Hardy_heron
[23:03] <barslow> firefox 3 sucks
[23:03] <Bart_Burroughs> J2 great, how
[23:03] <J2> joaopinto - ext3
[23:03] <yooshi> !pidgin
[23:03] <tommy_> barslow, I love ff3
[23:03] <barslow> im so sorry i 'upgraded' to heron
[23:03] <joaopinto> !language | barslow
[23:03] <joaopinto> J2, I am asking, how did you got into this scenario ?
[23:03] <barslow> wow you guys run a tight ship
[23:04] <Flannel> barslow: complaints/opinions/suggestions are welcomed in #ubuntu-offtopic, but please keep #ubuntu support related only
[23:04] <barslow> they say s*cks on disney now
[23:04] <Baltazaar> !wotd
[23:04] <pkcahier> -!- renascent \rih-NAS-uhnt\, adjective:
[23:04] <pkcahier> -!- Springing or rising again into being; showing renewed vigor.
[23:04] <barslow> i need support
[23:04] <panthro> :-d
[23:04] <Baltazaar> hmmm
[23:04] <tommy_> nalioth, ok thanks. I feel better and more confident now knowing that. cheers
[23:04] <bloodrock> offline is it your main user account that you get the error
[23:04] <Baltazaar> should have word of the day
[23:04] <revilodraw> ok this is really annoying me! i have a dell inspiron 6400 core2due t7200 with 2gb ram - is it amd64 or i386?
[23:04] <barslow> someone help me fix firefox so it stops crashing
[23:04] <J2> bart_burroughs - system>administration>network settings>general>domain name that should be it
[23:04] <tommy_> nalioth, is rkhunter any good?
[23:04] <yooshi> barslow: FF3?
[23:04] <J2> joaopinto - i hit the suspend button and it broke all filesystems on the HD
[23:05] <joaopinto> revilodraw, it a 64 bits capable system, you can use either 32 or 64 bits
[23:05] <[dmsuperman]> What's the command to execute a file with associated application from the command line?
[23:05] <Bart_Burroughs> J2, thanks I am assuming in hardy right?
[23:05] <barslow> yes
[23:05] <Quicksilva> Hello.  I bought a PIXMA IP2600 printer but there are no drivers for it.  I tried the 2000 and 3000 driver but neither work.  is there any way for me to get my printer working?
[23:05] <tommy_> nalioth, just out of curiosity, why cant Hardy get infected with a keylogger and be in my memory right now?
[23:05] <joaopinto> J2, and fsck does not provide the option to fix it ?
[23:05] <J2> joaopinto - i could fix all fo them using fsck but the important partition isnt working ^_^
[23:05] <barslow> it keeps crashing randomly, and for some reason when i highlight the file menu the txt disapears
[23:05] <tommy_> barslow, reinstall FF?
[23:05] <infidelis> i have a problem- when i click on another workspace icon in the "workspace switcher applet", it no longer switches me to that workspace
[23:05] <barslow> i've tried that
[23:05] <[dmsuperman]> tommy_, you'd pretty much need to want a keylogger, or install some third party app without knowing about it
[23:05] <revilodraw> jaopinto; thank you, you are a legend
[23:05] <J2> joaopinto - no, it gives that msg about the "bad magic number"... no idea what it means ^_^
[23:06] <J2> bart_burroughs - 8.04
[23:06] <joaopinto> tommy_, you can't, the same way you can't on any OS unless it was totally developed by yourseld
[23:06] <tommy_> [dmsuperman], I have installed a third party app called Keepass. How can I know that didnt contain anything nasty?
[23:06] <[dmsuperman]> I usually just research it, see what others have to say
[23:06] <joaopinto> J2, it seems to me that thart partition is seriously damaged, to an exten that fsck is unable to check it
[23:06] <Flannel> tommy_: You can't
[23:07] <joaopinto> J2, can you read from that device using dd ?
[23:07] <rawb> tommy_: read the source code
[23:07] <J2> joaopinto - whats dd?
[23:07] <tommy_> Flannel, so on Hardy, I could have a keylogger from that third party app I installed and never know im infected?  no way to check?
[23:07] <Baltazaar> tommy_: to read stdin from linux, you need rights. To install an app that does that you need rights.
[23:07] <tommy_> rawb, lol
[23:07] <J2> joaopinto - and no it cant be mounted, ubuntu doesnt even recognise that it is a ext3 partition
[23:07] <Flannel> tommy_: Did you install it with sudo?
[23:07] <psyco> what do you call the codes widgets use to find your place for weather updates????
[23:07] <apophis> can we just ignore tommy now?
[23:07] <Flannel> tommy_: Or, have you used sudo with it in any manner?
[23:08] <joaopinto> tommy_, please go to google, you seem to be unfamiliar with software an operative systems in general
[23:08] <Bart_Burroughs> J2, yes 8.04
[23:08] <edburns> I've never seen this before, but when I apt-get install bison, I'm getting a 404 not found.
[23:08] <_Gast_355_> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/7969777/
[23:08] <IndyGunFreak> lol.. and you call me condescending
[23:08] <edburns> Same story with Synaptic package manager.
[23:08] <joaopinto> tommy_, your question is not related to ubuntu, but about using software in general, regardless of the OS you are using
[23:08] <dabaR> How do I set up a VNC connection to a PC that expects NTLM authentication?
[23:08] <tommy_> lets assume the worst scenario and that I am now infected with a keylogger etc from the Keepass 3rd party app I installed.  How now can I check to see if im infected?
[23:08] <edburns> 404 Not Found <IP_ADDRESS>.80
[23:08] <yooshi> !compiz
[23:08] <Baltazaar> if your'e concerned about keyloggers and the likes, install tripwire
[23:08] <tommy_> Flannel, only used sudo to install it.
[23:08] <joaopinto> J2, dd allows to do raw reading, meaning, it doesnt care about the part format
[23:09] <edburns> Indeed the URL generated by both apt-get install and Synaptic Package manager does not exist.
[23:09] <J2> bart_burroughs - well then I THINK its there. didnt test it yet though. if its not here try searching for the setting that is the equivalent to the domain name in windows. like "mshome" by default in windows
[23:09] <joaopinto> it would be just to check if you can do disk I/O to the device
[23:09] <edburns> Can someone please help?
[23:09] <tommy_> Flannel,  it now loads and runs without needing to use sudo all the time.  is that a good sign?
[23:09] <nalioth> tommy_: have you run any programs using your 'sudo' password that you didn't know what they did?
[23:09] <Bart_Burroughs> J2, went into network settings, general, set domain as MSHOME which is how I see the xp machine on hardy and re-booted. is this correct
[23:09] <joaopinto> J2, if you do not, then you have an hw failure
[23:09] <tommy_> nalioth, I cannot remember.
[23:09] <J2> joaopinto - how can i read from it using dd?
[23:09] <Flannel> tommy_: When you installed it, it *could* have installed anything anywhere, including overwriting key system files to hide itself from you, etc.  The question is, do you trust where you got it from?
[23:09] <Baltazaar> tommy_: check /etc/sudoers file...
[23:09] <J2> bart_burroughs - yeah
[23:09] <joaopinto> J2, dd if=device of=/dev/null
[23:09] <harveyd> silly question probably but its annoying me, what to I type to quit a telnet session
[23:09] <tommy_> nalioth, so it comes back to my original question... how can I check Hardy is not infected?  will RKHUNTER check for that?
[23:10] <J2> bart_burroughs - good luck ^_^
[23:10] <tommy_> Flannel, I do not know, so I cannot 100% trust it.
[23:10] <barslow> does anyone else's txt dissapear when you highlight the file menu in FF3
[23:10] <nalioth> tommy_: i can 110% gaurantee you, that unless you've used your 'sudo' inappropriately, you're not 'infected' with anything
[23:10] <apophis> harveyd, depends on the protocl, but normally you just type: quit
[23:10] <apophis> (or exit)
[23:10] <joaopinto> tommy_, UNLESS YOU TRUST THE SOURCE YOU CAN'T BE SURE THAT AN INSTALLED SOFTWARE DOES NOT PROVIDE A TROJAN LIKE FUNCTIONALY, REGARDLESS OF THE OS THAT YOU USE
[23:10] <Flannel> tommy_: Checking for "regular' malware is easy enough.  Its the rootkit stuff that's troublesome.  However, a liveCD would be able to check your harddrive
[23:11] <joaopinto> sorry, it had to be CAPS
[23:11] <apophis> joaopinto, thats why he wants a virus scanner because he feels safer then ;D
[23:11] <Flannel> tommy_: This is getting a little bit offtopic, care to move to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[23:11] <harveyd> the server doesnt have any way to quit the session, its just expecting the client to
[23:11] <Baltazaar> so install a freakin virus scanner!
[23:11] <tommy_> nalioth, but I used sudo when I installed Keepass .deb file from http://www.keepassx.org/downloads?PHPSESSID=33d7d7cc4f66153708ca2ab4232c55e2
[23:11] <J2> joaopinto - im doing a "man dd" and in the description it says "copy a file, converting and formatting according to the operands"
[23:11] <joaopinto> no, he just keeps repeating the same question about how to use a system in general
[23:12] <harveyd> and everything ive tested, including the escape characters, just get sent over telnet
[23:12] <Baltazaar> I think it's trolling
[23:12] <tommy_> Flannel, This is the keepass .deb file I installed. Do you think it looks safe?  http://www.keepassx.org/downloads?PHPSESSID=33d7d7cc4f66153708ca2ab4232c55e2
[23:12] <rawb> tommy_: here's the source code: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/keepassx/KeePassX-0.3.1.tar.gz?download feel free to read it all and look for anything suspicious
[23:12] <harveyd> including ctr+c
[23:12] <J2> joaopinto - im kinda confused as to how this will help me lol
[23:12] <Baltazaar> !troll
[23:12] <Baltazaar> !trolling
[23:12] <joaopinto> J2, it will just check if you can read from the disk...
[23:12] <nalioth> tommy_: i'm not up on security issues, as i compile my own programs from source or use trusted repos  (were you not able to find keepass in a trusted repo?)
[23:13] <[dmsuperman]> !mencoder
[23:13] <J2> joaopinto - ok... im kinda confused as to how to input the command. its the /dev/stb5 partition, could u show me how the command has to look?
[23:13] <harveyd> ah, found it
[23:13] <Flannel> tommy_: You know keepassx is in the repos, right? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/keepassx
[23:13] <harveyd> ctr+]
[23:13] <tommy_> rawb, why are you keep saying stuff like that!  I told you 2 times already. I am not a programmer and I have NO IDEA what the source code says
[23:13] <joaopinto> J2, dd if=/dev/stdb5 of=/dev/null
[23:13] <blistov> Chriiist this is  alot of people
[23:14] <tommy_> Flannel, I didnt know that :P  so how do I now remove the keepass I downloaded and install keepass from the repos?
[23:14] <J2> joaopinto - ok lemme try that...
[23:14] <joaopinto> tommy_, the answer YOU CAN'T KNOW, do not use computers!!!
[23:14] <blistov> i've installed ica client 10.6, but when i run wfmgr, i get wfcmgr: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:14] <blistov> i have installed libmotif3 and libxaw
[23:14] <vocx> joaopinto, ha ha
[23:14] <apophis> C A P S :)
[23:14] <blistov> idea's?
[23:14] <ipei> Hi again guys! May I ask how I can change when I dubbleklick on the title row on a window from "rolling up" to maximize? :/
[23:15] <tommy_> joaopinto, do you think your comment is feasible and sensible and realistic?  are yuou tryung to help or just annoy people? :)
[23:15] <joaopinto> tommy_, just go to your bank instead, and be carefull the guy on the desk can be fake
[23:15] <tommy_> joaopinto, be careful
[23:15] <apophis> blistov, ica client is not from the repository?
[23:15] <Oli```> !ops | tommy_
[23:15] <joaopinto> tommy_, you have been annoying on all your lines, I am sure I Can annoy you with a single line
[23:15] <tommy_> nalioth, i didnt know you were an op :)
[23:15] <Pici> !stop
[23:16] <Flannel> tommy_: Remove the package you have installed with your favorite package mangaer, then install the version from the repository
[23:16] <J2> joaopinto - is it normal that it takes allot of time to check?
[23:16] <Pici> !support
[23:16] <joaopinto> J2, well, it would read from your entire disk, if its running, it means it is able to read from your disk
[23:16] <joaopinto> you can abort it with CTRL-C
[23:16] <tommy_> Flannel, ok thanks
[23:16] <dabaR> How do I set up a VNC connection to a PC with UltraVNC with NTLM authentication?
[23:17] <Mez> tommy_, joaopinto please take your difference of opinion to /msg, rather than in here
[23:17] <tommy_> Flannel, ill do that, sounds like a feasible plan and a sensible one.  thanks for your help
[23:17] <J2> joaopinto - well its doing smth but i dont know what exactly. there is no text outout since i hit enter
[23:17] <tommy_> Mez, ok
[23:17] <joaopinto> Mez, please read the entire thread, this was not an opinion matter, thanks
[23:17] <tommy_> Mez, I found a solution from Flannel anyway, so I dont need to continue the topic. thanks
[23:17] <xande> ola
[23:18] <joaopinto> J2, there are some recovery tools, I am not sure it will help on your case, and I can't remember the name right now.. probably someone else can help...
[23:18] <xande> como eu fasso pra baixar
[23:18] <hacksilber> hey guys, i'm trying to mount a sansa e260
[23:18] <joaopinto> !pt | xande
[23:18] <J2> joaopinto - well thanks anyway for your time. btw you know anything about this software? http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[23:18] <hacksilber> i can see it from doing "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[23:18] <Scunizi> anyone know why most channels on shoutcast via Streamtuner won't load.. all I get is unable to tune in . stream is empty.???
[23:19] <hacksilber> anyway i can figure out where it is to mount it?
[23:19] <ipei> Hi again guys! May I ask how I can change when I dubbleklick on the title row on a window from "rolling up" to maximize? :/  In "Window preference" "maximize" is choosed, so something is wrong :(
[23:20] <joaopinto> J2, ops, that was the software I am aware for recovring, it is available from the repositories
[23:20] <hacksilber> anyone?
[23:20] <Chrysalis> is it safe to delete symlinks or will that delete whatever its pointing to aswell?
[23:21] <Odd-rationale> Chrysalis: it is safe to delete symbolic system links.
[23:21] <J2> joaopinto- ok ill try using it then. thanks allot!
[23:21] <sabe> nick mitm
[23:21] <sabe> ups
[23:21] <Chrysalis> Odd-rationale: well i use the ln -s to make them if the -s stands for symbolic
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> Chrysalis: correct.
[23:22] <Miesco> How would I use my headset for just VOIP?
[23:22] <Miesco> In a game
[23:22] <t_>  I have a problem, 5 minutes after booting ubuntu. The system freezes, and the icons disappear, and no files can be opened (Unable to open the chil process).
[23:22] <xande> desculpa mas eu nunca entrei no irc
[23:23] <hacksilber> from doing cat /proc/bus/usb/devices i can see it is on bus 005 and is device 002
[23:23] <rainabba> Getting along pretty decent with my new 8.04 install, but I'm catching hell setting up samba shares using any GUIs. System>Administration>File Sharing (or similiar) doesn't exist and the Nautilus Sharing dialog fails citing file permissions in /var/lib/samba/usershares, but I'm in the sambasharing group. Help? Another GUI I could use?
[23:23] <hacksilber> can't relly seem to get any further than that
[23:23] <joaopinto> xande, please type /j #ubuntu-pt
[23:25] <thosgb> how do you remove your splash screen boot screen, so its just text?
[23:25] <jay_> how to install any program ?
[23:25] <bloodrock> rainabba: did you try system-config-samba
[23:25] <joaopinto> Jay, you should start from Add/Remove
[23:25] <pilpi> jay_, applications-menu -> add/remove
[23:25] <offline> Bloodrock, u still here ? thank you for your great assistance on my prob... now my machine is back to it's norman life
[23:26] <bloodrock> offline cool glad to have been able to help
[23:26] <jay_> how i want to get a driver for sound and cam
[23:26] <dabaR> thosgb: You need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the option 'quiet' to the right line. http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+grub+quiet&btnG=Search&meta=
[23:26] <Miesco> I have headphones and speakers plugged in, both are plugged into audio out, how do I make them both work?
[23:27] <offline> bloodrock, ya :D glad to get help from u to thanks
[23:27] <jay_> oo ic
[23:27] <pucko-> thosgb, and remove splash as well if you want text-only
[23:27] <asathoor> !spyware
[23:27] <thosgb> pucko will that also take care of the logo?
[23:27] <asathoor> !adblocl
[23:28] <jay_> my cam is lose
[23:28] <offline> bye bloodrock
[23:28] <DanielRM> I don't suppose anyone knows how to stop aalib from cutting off half of my video?
[23:28] <coil> has anyone gotten unreal tournament working on hardy?
[23:29] <jetscreamer> i remember a song by bloodrock
[23:29] <Constrabus> Video works fine in X, but when I kill X i cant get back to the console. I just get a blank screen. Any ideas? Card: 8800m GTX laptop gpu
[23:29] <offline> what song ?
[23:30] <coil> has anyone gotten unreal tournament working on hardy?
[23:30] <pucko-> Constrabus, common problem.. do you use vesafb?
[23:30] <jay_> how i want to change my theme
[23:30] <offline> unreal tournament is for windows isn't it ?
[23:30] <joaopinto> coil, are you running it using wine ?
[23:30] <ninefold> In the synaptic it says "Firefox 3.0~b5". Is this a beta version or final? Just wondering because of the b~5.
[23:30] <asathoor> jay >> just rightclick somewhere on the desk...
[23:30] <coil> no, loki installer
[23:30] <abchirk> offline which version?
[23:30] <asathoor> desktop
[23:31] <joaopinto> ninefold, ff3 final is already available from the repositories, unless your is not synchronized yet
[23:31] <thosgb> pucko should I delete all the splash, and quiet in grub?
[23:31] <asathoor> jay >> and then choose theme
[23:31] <rainabba> bloodrock: That did it, thank you.
[23:31] <dabaR> Constrabus: can you get to the console without killing X?
[23:31] <offline> abchirk : i bet that question is for coil :D
[23:31] <asathoor> jay >> you can create your own or download from www
[23:31] <pucko-> thosgb, no, just one instance.. if you read the comments you'll see it..
[23:32] <abchirk> oh sorry. :P
[23:32] <mythril> I updated my kernel last night and now sound doesn't play (Ubuntu 7.10) where should I start to solve this issue.
[23:32] <offline> abchirk :D
[23:32] <abchirk> coil the original or Ut2004 or else?
[23:32] <abchirk> :)
[23:32] <Constrabus> pucko- Yes, I have it compiled into my kernel. It still happenes when i take vge=0x730 out of my boot string.
[23:32] <thosgb> pucko the link you gave me, thats 150 results, and 15 pages
[23:32] <Constrabus> pucko- Would I have to take it out of my kernel for it to fix?
[23:33] <offline> asathorr : which theme is the most light ? i mean not hogging too much resource ?
[23:33] <pucko-> Constrabus, yes, happened to me too. I had to use vga16fb to get it working. don't know about the nvidia drivers though.
[23:33] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks Dock just said I've got to take some painkillers but strictly every 12 hours, does somebody know the way to a 'crontab' example to help me remind that, or shall I just RTFM ? :D
[23:33] <hvgotcodes> hey on gutsy compiz worked fine with my ati m300 -- on gutsy its slow as spit
[23:33] <hvgotcodes> is this a known issue?
[23:33] <hvgotcodes> i meant hardy second one
[23:33] <pucko-> thosgb, that wasn't me.
[23:33] <RabidWeezle> what's the command to run ubuntu's updater?
[23:33] <Constrabus> pucko- So you think If i take it out of my kernel, it will work?
[23:33] <RabidWeezle> I run kde and it doesn't work the same as in gnome
[23:34] <asathoor> AutoMatriX >> perhaps anacron is better, if your system isn't a server
[23:34] <thosgb> pucko oh okay
[23:34] <thosgb> well I dont know what line to add, that guy posted a link with over 150 search results
[23:34] <pucko-> thosgb, look for the line begining with # defoptions=
[23:34] <thosgb> okay
[23:34] <pucko-> thosgb, and don't forget to run update-grub afterwards
[23:34] <Flannel> AutoMatriX: you could use crontab, sure.  But there are probably better specialized tools for reminders.  A cursory search reveals "remind" which may work
[23:35] <AutoMatriX> asathoor, this machine si sometimes used as a testserver ;)
[23:35] <thosgb> pucko how do I update grub?
[23:35] <pucko-> Constrabus, as I said. don't really know about nvidia drivers. but it worked for me
[23:35] <pucko-> thosgb sudo update-grub
[23:35] <AutoMatriX> Flannel, interesting solution, in fact :D
[23:35] <asathoor> AutoMatriX >> if it's not online all of the time anacron is better. Just edit /etc/anacrontab
[23:35] <offline> do i need firewall on ubuntu ?
[23:36] <thosgb> pucko thanks man
[23:36] <asathoor> ;-)
[23:36] <linxeh> offline: maybe, depending on what you might run / want to hide
[23:36] <dabaR> offline: not unless you know you need one.
[23:36] <AutoMatriX> asathoor, 'm going to have a look at that solution too,
[23:36] <RabidWeezle> nvm, I got it, update-manager
[23:36] <coil> abchirk: goty
[23:36] <RabidWeezle> ^_^
[23:36] <AutoMatriX> asathoor, Flannel, thanks à lot
[23:36] <coil> but im having problems with the unrealtournament.ini file
[23:36] <coil> trying to get the opengl working
[23:36] <RabidWeezle> coil, GOTY DVD?
[23:36] <coil> not dvd
[23:37] <coil> just the two cds
[23:37] <abchirk> without OpenGL it won't run. :)
[23:37] <RabidWeezle> oh, cause the DVD has no linux installer at all, but it has a linux logo on it, LOL
[23:37] <coil> yes abchirk
[23:37] <coil> and i hvae opengl and 3d accell already
[23:37] <RabidWeezle> stupid midway
[23:37] <abchirk> Nvidia?
[23:37] <coil> i just need help with the viewportmanager option in the .ini
[23:37] <coil> yes abchirk
[23:37] <pucko-> Constrabus, what i did was to add fbcon and vga16fb to /etc/initramfs/modules
[23:38] <offline> linxeh & dabar : yes, i want to avoid some attacks like flooding from my LAN... but is it linux is set to hidden port by default ?
[23:38] <RabidWeezle> anyone know how to enable sshd?
[23:38] <dabaR> offline: do you have any servers set up on your computer?
[23:38] <soundray> RabidWeezle: sudo apt-get install ssh
[23:38] <HalphaZ> hello, can i see what ports are open in my uubnut?
[23:38] <RabidWeezle> ahh, thnx
[23:39] <RabidWeezle> figured it would be installed by default hehe
[23:39] <soundray> RabidWeezle: only the client
[23:39] <RabidWeezle> ahh
[23:39] <Daenyth> How do I get MPD to start when the machine boots?
[23:39] <offline> dabar : no.. LAN is straight from switch
[23:39] <RabidWeezle> makes sense, keeps the machine for secure
[23:39] <ForsakenSoul> hey can someone tell me what was the command for editing a file from the console
[23:39] <soundray> ForsakenSoul: nano filename
[23:39] <RabidWeezle> ForsakenSoul, well, there's pico
[23:40] <prodigel> Hi all. Anyone using mythtv? I'm just setting it up and I can't see anything when selecting 'watch tv'. any help appreciated
[23:40] <RabidWeezle> and nano
[23:40] <Daenyth> and vim :>
[23:40] <ForsakenSoul> pico ?
[23:40] <Daenyth> vim is better
[23:40] <Oli```> HalphaZ: use Network tools (in System > Administration) on localhost
[23:40] <RabidWeezle> I use mc lol
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> !best |
[23:40] <RabidWeezle> I use mc for just about everything
[23:40] <offline> dabar : but on my vista machine, i got massive attack of flooding..
[23:40] <dabaR> offline: the Ubuntu firewall is by default set up to disallow any inbound connections.
[23:40] <ForsakenSoul> hmm  how was the command to open a file with gedit for instance from the console with root perms
[23:40] <yooshi> w00t I got compiz working
[23:40] <soundray> prodigel: what kind of TV card do you have?
[23:41] <RabidWeezle> gedit <filename>
[23:41] <dabaR> ForsakenSoul: gksudo gedit
[23:41] <RabidWeezle> yep
[23:41] <RabidWeezle> for root privs
[23:41] <JFlash> what software can I use to copy a dvd to the HD, not trancode it?
[23:41] <Lunar_Lamp> prodigel> Hi all. Anyone using mythtv? I'm just setting it up and I can't see anything when selecting 'watch tv'. any help appreciated <== have you configured the tvcard in the settings, and tuned it?
[23:41] <RabidWeezle> I use gksu
[23:41] <jay_> ok thanx
[23:41] <HalphaZ> Oli```: I'm using KDE4 compiled from trunk, so I suppose I need some command line command...
[23:41] <prodigel> soundray: it's a leadtek 2000 ... donno exactly it's name, pretty old. anyway with xawtv it's working pretty fine
[23:41] <JFlash> i found a bunch and installed OGMRip but then it just rips it
[23:41] <vipester> im back again... still trying to connect to wpa.  i reinstalled ubuntu to try some tutorials fresh and it still doesnt work
[23:41] <offline> dabar : so you're saying it is not really necessary to use additional firewall on ubuntu coz it's already safe ? correct me
[23:41] <JFlash> like, it's a lossy process
[23:42] <RabidWeezle> ooh, new nvidia drivers o_O
[23:42] <sp1d3r> hey folks!  Does anyone knows a terminal which I can slide in/out when I want to use it?
[23:42] <Oli```> HalphaZ: you can still run gtk apps under kdm (assuming you've still got all the ubuntu-desktop packages installed)
[23:42] <prodigel> Lunar_Lamp: I've run myth-setup and did some settings according to some article, and seemed ok, also found a bunch of channels
[23:42] <dabaR> offline: ya, if you don't know whether you need a firewall, you don't probably. I don't use a firewall.
[23:42] <Lunar_Lamp> sp1d3r: I think "tilde" is what you're looking for - though I haven't used it.
[23:42] <jay_> ermm.. how to download any filem
[23:42] <ForsakenSoul> ok thanks guys
[23:42] <RabidWeezle> This has been an awesome summer of code, we got a new firefox, wine 1.0, new nvidia drivers... this is great
[23:42] <Lunar_Lamp> prodigel: ok, so when you say you can't see anything - do you mean the screen stays black but sound is heard?
[23:43] <tanner> ugh, this high io wait time is bs
[23:43] <prodigel> Lunar_Lamp: it goes blank for a fraction of a second and then comes back to the menu
[23:43] <jake_needs_help> I'm having problems with my Ethernet connection on 8.04... assistance please
[23:43] <Lunar_Lamp> OK, you will want to check the logs, but I think that sounds like it's not connecting the database properly.
[23:43] <offline> dabar : ok.. that helps :D i think i'm not gonna use additional F/W coz i will got additional resource hog as well :D
[23:43] <sp1d3r> Hey guys, where I can find a curtain terminal
[23:43] <sp1d3r> ?
[23:43] <HalphaZ> Oli```: I can't reach that program from menù... what is its name?
[23:43] <RabidWeezle> jake_needs_help, what kind of problems?
[23:44] <dabaR> offline: in other words, there is a firewall installed in every Ubuntu installation. It is set up properly when you get it, and gets updated as needed. You don't need to configure it if you don't encounter trouble.
[23:44] <Lunar_Lamp> sp1d3r: I think "tilde" is what you're looking for - though I haven't used it.
[23:44] <prodigel> Lunar_Lamp: where can I find those logs?
[23:44] <Lunar_Lamp> prodigel: from memory I'm not sure - but I think /var/log/mythtv
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> sp1d3r: tilda or guake
[23:44] <Sodjer> д
[23:44] <Oli```> HalphaZ: gnome-nettool
[23:44] <sp1d3r> Lunar_Lamp yes! I want that !! thx
[23:44] <soundray> prodigel: it might also just go to /var/log/syslog
[23:44] <dabaR> -+
[23:44] <sp1d3r> I forgot the name!
[23:44] <rainabba> Using vmware-any-any-116 I managed to get VMWare Workstation 6.5 Beta installed and I created a VM, but when I try to run I get "Version mismatch with vmmon module: expecting 198.0, got 167.0". Anyone know what install step I goofed on to end up here?
[23:45] <RabidWeezle> there's also Kuake for kde if you use kde sp1d3r
[23:45] <jengelh2> rainabba: don't use any-any with workstation6.
[23:45] <jake_needs_help> RabidWeezle: I can't seem to ping anything on my network... I think i'm having issues with IPv4 for some reason
[23:45] <Zanth> hmm
[23:45] <HalphaZ> Oli```: thank you a lot
[23:45] <Oli```> HalphaZ: though you might want to run it from another computer as some ports may be open but only for local connections
[23:45] <rainabba> jengelh2:  So I should uninstall and try again without any-any?
[23:45] <RabidWeezle> so you can't access your lan, but you can access the internet jake_needs_help ?
[23:45] <jengelh2> correct
[23:45] <jay_> how to install any program
[23:45] <Zanth> rainabba: maybe you should stick to a fully working VMWare version, not the beta.
[23:45] <offline> :D thanks
[23:45] <jengelh2> jay_: vmware-any-any ...
[23:46] <rainabba> Zanth: No go man.
[23:46] <prodigel> Lunar_Lamp: the only error I see in mythfrontend.log is joystick related, which is of null importance
[23:46] <jake_needs_help> RabidWeezle: nope.. can't get to the internet either... I can't even ping my default gateway... very strange... I've tried both static IP and DHCP
[23:46] <offline> jay : sudo apt-get install <program name>
[23:46] <prodigel> Lunar_Lamp: also says 'connected to ...'
[23:46] <mrgogetem> any one help with web cam on pidgin
[23:46] <soundray> !software | jay_
[23:46] <Zanth> i recently installed vmware 6.0.4. and i could get it to run without having to use the any-any patches.
[23:46] <RabidWeezle> jake_needs_help, this might sound terrible, but try using a different cable?
[23:46] <HalphaZ> Oli```: can I scan also udp ports?
[23:47] <yooshi> what is the "super" key?
[23:47] <RabidWeezle> Ethernet cables are finicky
[23:47] <jengelh2> yooshi: the one with power.
[23:47] <RabidWeezle> ctrl = super
[23:47] <rodolfo> hi all!
[23:47] <blkadf8> everytime I reboot, im disconnected, becaus I have to re-login on my wpa, how do I make linux to login automatically?