[18:21] <Ralt> symptom : other than taking a look at the drivers, I don't see anything :/
[18:22] <cowok> hayoooooo pada kmna
[18:22] <Ralt> siddhantchd : everybody has its favorite player, as long as you can play anything you like, anything suits you :)
[18:22] <soreau> IdleOne: Hey, I couldn't find you in the user list here </pebcak>
[18:22] <siddhantchd> hmmm ok
[18:22] <siddhantchd> thanx guys
[18:23] <IdleOne> soreau: I was up top
[18:23] <[thor]> patrik: couple things wrong with that; this is an ubuntu support channel only, and secondly most support on freenode is done via public channel.. getting someone to /msg is impractical as it robs other users of potentially useful information.
[18:23] <Adenauers23> hi
[18:23] <Adenauers23> iam a little frustrated about ubuntu
[18:23] <dogarrhea1> adenauers23 tell me about it
[18:23] <HeerSMZett> lo ppl
[18:23] <Ralt> Adenauers23 : what about?
[18:23] <bthornton> Frequently (at random), when I boot into Ubuntu 10.10, my GNOME session does not have a theme (i.e. it looks like the vanilla GTK+ theme). In order to fix this, I have to log out, pray, then log back in. Anybody else experience this and have a better solution?
[18:23] <botcity> symptom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271052&highlight=disable+touchpad+while+typing
[18:24] <ifewalter> adenauser we all were at some point
[18:24] <soreau> IdleOne: ah..
[18:24] <theos> i still am about my webcam :P
[18:24] <rigved> dogarrhea1: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
[18:24] <Adenauers23> when i connect with vncviewer to my ubuntu machine and download something through Transmission and I disconnect the vnc connection the Download will stop and only continue when I reconnect with the vnc viewer.
[18:24] <Adenauers23> I guess no one knows a solution, because this is a very specific problem.
[18:24] <symptom> botcity, yea.... lets be honest... that doesnt really work very well.....
[18:24] <[thor]> 122456* patrik<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:is messaging you, and you have umode +g.
[18:25] <Adenauers23> but iam frustrated and wanted to share with you
[18:25] <[thor]> patrik: that was not a request for you to /msg me
[18:25] <dogarrhea1> rigved it's solved now thanks
[18:25] <LinuxPhreak> I have Ubuntu 10.10 and I just added the KUbuntu Desktop. Replaced the GDM with KDM and when I log into my KDE envirnment I only see the Terminal. Nothing else. When I close the terminal I get back to the KDM. I can log into Gnome just fine
[18:25] <Ralt> LinuxPhreak : just work with the terminal! it's great.
[18:26] <rigved> dogarrhea1: case-sensitive. ok :) so xorg-dev was the package i guess
[18:26] <ifewalter> then keep the connection alive @adeneuser
[18:26] <Arthurrr> Does anyone have some information on creating an ad hoc network through terminal?
[18:26] <LinuxPhreak> Ralt: agree on the terminal however I can do that without Desktop envirnment. Besides I installed it for reason
[18:26] <mkanyicy> yes
[18:27] <ifewalter> @arthurrr Google is your friend
[18:27] <bfri> I'm having a problem with a fire fox plug in, can anyone help.  I can only seem to run this when i'm in windows but i want it for ubuntu
[18:28] <Ralt> LinuxPhreak : I know, I was just kidding :)
[18:28] <siddhantchd> guys i m using RealVNC server on my ubuntu 10.10 but i m not able to access it on lan thru vncviewer on a windows machine
[18:28] <dogarrhea1> hrm. code from google searches always throw errors.  Anyone know what this means? ‘XGetPixel’ was not declared in this scope
[18:28] <LinuxPhreak> Ralt: was hoping that was the case
[18:28] <mkanyicy> bfri, what plugin?
[18:28] <ThinkT510> bfri: does the author say it works on windows only or is it labelled as working in linux too?
[18:29] <bfri> mkanyicy: well its the one with the coffee cup
[18:29] <thevishy> .join #netwrok
[18:30] <bfri> thinkt510; i just know it works in windows and not when im in ubuntu
[18:30] <botcity> symptom: sorry! read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad may point you in the right direction.
[18:30] <symptom> botcity, What does Ubuntu 10.10 use for synaptics device config? xorg.conf isnt used anymore right?
[18:31] <ThinkT510> bfri: what is the plugin called?
[18:31] <axisys> is there a guide or tool to harden ubuntu .. bastille looks last updated in 2008.. not sure if that is still the correct tool
[18:31] <Adenauers23> Ralt, dogarrhea1 sry, I didnt expect someone responds. Well when I quit vncviewer from my windows to my ubuntu, "transmission" will stop all downloads and resumes only when reestablishing the vnc connection, though the ubuntu mashine is still on.
[18:32] <bfri> thinkt510: its the coffee cup, java maybe?
[18:32] <Adenauers23> I also activated the option to not stop downloads as long there are active torrents. But I still can observe no success
[18:33] <symptom> I would really like to know where the synaptics config file is so i can change the dimensions of my touch pad, as well as the delay between when the last key was pressed and when the touch pad is active again..
[18:33] <ThinkT510> bfri: have you installed java?
[18:33] <dogarrhea1> god these xlib and xorg and gtk gdk and other windowing apis blow donkey chunks
[18:33] <symptom> anyone know where ubuntu squirells away this info?
[18:33] <pavanai> cant boot to ubuntu ultimate edition....
[18:34] <bfri> i dont even know if thats it
[18:34] <dogarrhea1> you absolutely cannot find any kind of reliable information about these useless overly complex libraries
[18:34] <pavanai> help!!!!
[18:34] <symptom> pavanai, you already have it ;)
[18:34] <ThinkT510> bfri: then i can't help you
[18:34] <symptom> Ubuntu has only one edition.... ULTIMATE
[18:34] <pavanai> symptom, wt u mean?
[18:35] <bfri> thinkt510: wait go to this pagehttps://www.bnonline.fi.cr/Login/ and put for the loggin<PHONE_NUMBER>15311
[18:35] <dogarrhea1> symptom, you mean pre-alpha?
[18:35] <pavanai> symptom, ya i have it ma problem is that the logo is showing and after that no progress
[18:35] <itaylor57> pavanai: ubuntu ultimate not supported here
[18:35] <bfri> then go to the next page thats where im missing something
[18:35] <symptom> huh... sounds like a microsoftism
[18:35] <symptom> might be time to switch to suse
[18:36] <pavanai> symptom, any clue....
[18:36] <bfri> Thinkt510: its a digital key pad but it doesnt show for me
[18:36] <a931bw> Guys, i have debian, and i veeery want unity, i added unity daily ppa, and it wanted alot of software i hadn't in repo's so i just added Natty repos
[18:36] <a931bw> am i crazy?
[18:36] <symptom> pavanai, i was mistaken... dogarrhea1 corrected me
[18:37] <mkanyicy> !natty | a931bw
[18:37] <symptom> pavanai, sounds like #ubuntu+1 might be able to help
[18:37] <ThinkT510> !java | bfri
[18:37] <pavanai> symptom, thank u
[18:37] <pavanai> #ubuntu+1
[18:38] <opiate> so i am now on my system with a live cd. how can i access my documents? it seems that im not allowed to view them
[18:38] <opiate> will they be visibla after reinstalling the system?
[18:38] <botcity> symptom: The xorg.conf does not exist by default any more. You CAN create one though. Boot into recovery mode and select Root Shell. Then run: X -configure Then: cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf Reboot and you can edit the new Xorg.conf.
[18:38] <Henry__> join linux
[18:39] <_Alex__> Hwnty: Try with a / at the start
[18:39] <siddhantchd>  guys i m using RealVNC server on my ubuntu 10.10 but i m not able to access it on lan thru vncviewer on a windows machine
[18:39] <mrstocks_> too too, i'm runnig in a some trouble with rvm all the binaries are in example /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p180/gems/bundler-1.0.11/bin/bundle thats not in the path how come?
[18:39] <symptom> botcity, not sure if i want to do that... it will probably blow away all the other nice things that have come along recently....
[18:40] <memee> bonsoir
[18:40] <dogarrhea1> o god. why does every piece of code relating to xorg/xlib/xwindows not compile
[18:40] <dogarrhea1> undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'
[18:40] <dogarrhea1> undefined reference to "some obscure useless library"
[18:40] <oc80z> looking for bandwidth test for CLI.
[18:41] <opiate> i want to save my data with a live cd because i fucked up my system. but im not allowed to view/modifie them. how can i change this?
[18:41] <memee> comment en bash connaitre le nombre de connexion rsync à un serveur, ou tester si il reste de la bande passante libre ?
[18:41] <ThinkT510> !fr | memee
[18:41] <memee> hmm sorry
[18:42] <Samuel> so I installed unclutter to hide te mousepointer and had it autostart
[18:42] <memee> how to count the number of rsync connexion on a server or to know if it still be available bandwidth ?
[18:42] <Samuel> now I removed it from autostart and it still hides the mousepointer, why??
[18:43] <Samuel> offcourse I restarted after editing and saving autostart
[18:44] <dogarrhea1> where would libx11-dev install to?
[18:44] <Pax-Man> Hi guys, today I installed Ubuntu 11.04 beta and it word very well - to be honest I loved it. Therefore I spend time upgrading my graphic card driver, which I used the Ubuntu GUI for. Unfortuantly it made my screen almost black but it seems the software workes expect from that graphic flaw. I've searched forums, any ideas?
[18:44] <gnugr> any ideas fowtoforge nvida?
[18:45] <gnugr> howtoforge nvidia
[18:45] <gnugr> !howto nvidia
[18:45] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | Pax-Man
[18:46] <dogarrhea1> command to find location of install?
[18:46] <Pax-Man> ThinkT510: thanks
[18:46] <ewet> hi, I'm trying to connect to a kvm machine via vnc. it works when i invoke kvm with "-vnc :0" but it doesn't work with virsh (listen='<IP_ADDRESS>' is in the config file) what'S wrong?
[18:47] <gnugr> !10.04 nvidia
[18:47] <snake_> Is it possible to have a null background, so that I can see through my Cube, and still see my icons?
[18:47] <ThinkT510> !bot | gnugr
[18:48] <xnixan> hi, how to increase the number of loop devices on ubuntu server 10.04?
[18:48] <ThinkT510> !server | xnixan
[18:48] <smw> xnixan, why would you?
[18:49] <snake_> Why would they remove a gui for a server... instead they should make GUI tools for a server. :)
[18:49] <smw> snake_, because a gui is unnecessary on a server
[18:50] <xnixan> smw, i need to mount more than 8 iso images
[18:50] <smw> snake_, a gui just takes up resources.
[18:50] <snake_> i see.
[18:50] <smw> xnixan, ah, no idea then
[18:50] <snake_> Is it possible to have a null background, so that I can see through my Cube, and still see my icons?
[18:50] <smw> snake_, a gui is useless when you are managing 20 headless servers ;-)
[18:51] <leg3nd> gui takes resources
[18:51] <xnixan> smw, i had already modified /etc/modules but still after rebooting the number of loop devices is the same!
[18:52] <smw> xnixan, sorry, I have no idea how it works. However, is there a reason you are mounting >8 images?
[18:52] <ThinkT510> xnixan: maybe you could ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:53] <gimpy4685> In Ubuntu 10.04 my wireless connected itself to my network without me entering a password.  How?  My local login password and WPA password happen to be the same right now, does Ubuntu just remember and try that password?
[18:53] <leg3nd> gimpy4685, yes if you right click network manager and go to 'edit connections' you can also remove them.
[18:53] <leg3nd> gimpy4685, the passwords will be stored into your gnome keyring.
[18:53] <xnixan> ThinkT510, it is not related  to ubuntu-server only, or ubuntu distor, it should apply for all linux kernels!
[18:53] <dogarrhea1> i've always wondered why some of my colleagues in the IT industry took crack cocaine.   I just installed ubuntu 11.04 beta alongside of my windows 7 and when i boot i dont have the option to choose my os it just goes from black screen straight to windows 7. Any advice?   What card do you have?  (BCM... ?)  Or do you not know.
[19:00] <atul> BroadCom
[19:00] <pragmaticenigma> aris_: most disk drives manage their own bad sector monitoring... if your drive isn't doing that I would suggest getting a new harddrive
[19:00] <dogarrhea1> because "our customers are not going to try and hack us"
[19:00] <raiko_lasma> hello everyone!
[19:00] <edbian> atul, broadcom 43xx  ?
[19:00] <BestKeptSecret> hey is the dict utility reliable???
[19:00] <edbian> atul, Look in the output of sudo fdisk -l
[19:00] <dogarrhea1> or the retards who tie me up in meetings for code reviews only to discuss for 3 hours whether or not we should have capital letters for function names
[19:01] <dogarrhea1> or the retards who use remote desktop and never log out so no one else can use it
[19:01] <edbian> atul, sorry, wrong command.  sudo lspci -k
[19:01] <dogarrhea1> and the retard admins who never fix the problem of only having one account
[19:01] <edbian> !ot | dogarrhea1
[19:01] <BestKeptSecret> dogarrhea1, sthu and take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:01] <snake_> I want to have my desktop completely transparent, and my icons still 100% opaque, so that I can see through my Cube.
[19:02] <edbian> snake_, so do it.  Use ccsm
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> snake_:  so install ccsm and start playing with the settings
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[19:02] <raiko_lasma> I enable blur effect on Compiz. It works perfect on my system like everything. But the blur effect also is effective for videos (like adobe flash, when i play also with VLC any video). How can we disable blur for videos ?
[19:02] <edbian> snake_, fyi, the setting you want is not in simple-ccsm
[19:02] <cg2916> i used unetbootin and when i tried to boot into linux, it said "windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware configuration problem"
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> raiko_lasma:  check ccsm - see if it has some exceptions settings.
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> cg2916:  used unetbootin how exactly?
[19:03] <snake_> edbian, I know, I have ccsm, but I never saw an option about icons, but I will play around with it(the settings), as the others said.
[19:03] <raiko_lasma>  Dr_Willis: I look for it but i did not see anythink about that...
[19:04] <cg2916> Dr_Willis: i used it from windows
[19:04] <edbian> snake_, I'm not sure if you can opaque the icons.  I (like many) keep my desktop clear of icons
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> cg2916:  You used unetbootin in windows. to make a bootable flash drive. and now windows dosent boot?
[19:04] <pragmaticenigma> raiko_lasma: it is possible that compiz isn't applying the blur effect as much as your system just ins't able to handle the compiz effects and video playback at the same time
[19:04] <cc_> 999
[19:04] <xgt001> hey everyone... i need to reduce my laptop noise and increase battery life in ubuntu any suggestions????
[19:04] <pragmaticenigma> raiko_lasma: I have always found that desktop effects and video playback just don't mix well on my systems
[19:04] <cg2916> Dr_Willis: no, it said that with unetbootin, you didn't need a removeable device like a usb drive
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> cg2916:  i dont use unetbootin that way. You may need to be checking the unetbootin homepage/forums/support channel.
[19:05] <snake_> yeah no setting for icons..
[19:05] <edbian> cg2916, True.  I have done it.  Ubuntu does not like it very much.
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> cg2916:  wubi on the ubuntu cd is normally used to install 'inside' windows.
[19:05] <Wcg_147> Hi
[19:05] <xgt001> hey everyone... i need to reduce my laptop noise and increase battery life in ubuntu any suggestions????
[19:05] <frybye> hi - how to install the nividia proprietary drivers from the command line - not able to boot to gui...
[19:06] <edbian> atul, Are you there?
[19:06] <Wcg_147> Brazilian
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> xgt001:  check the forums for your exact make laptop. there may be a thread on tweaking it.
[19:06] <ThinkT510> snake_: you want to check the settings for the cube regarding transparancy
[19:06] <cg2916> edbian: Dr_Wills: i followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[19:06] <BlessJah> i'm wondering if xnee records event one by one without any timing, or puts any timestamps in output file
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> frybye:  you could run 'jockey-text' or try installing the 'nvidia-current' package
[19:06] <just_some_dude> i have xubuntu 10.04, xfce 4.6. i'm not sure how it happened, but networking is no longer automatically started at bootup. how can a make the network work automatically?
[19:06] <just_some_dude> clarification: the network manager starts at boot, but my net connection is not enabled by default.
[19:06] <edbian> cg2916, which part of it
[19:07] <snake_> ThinkT510, I did :P That's what I was just saying basically.
[19:07] <cg2916> edbain: automatic
[19:07] <edbian> Dr_Willis, I noticed the nvidia driver packages cover the same cards.  What is the difference between 179 and current?
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  no idea really.  They could be the same package.
[19:07] <snake_> ThinkT510, would I tell you there is no coats in the closet, without looking?
[19:07] <bonjoyee> just_some_dude: check if "connect automatically" is checked..
[19:07] <edbian> cg2916, unetbootin ?  or wubi?
[19:07] <edbian> Dr_Willis, mm, thanks
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> edbian: they are different builds... basically current is the most recently released driver package where 179 is a previous driver package
[19:07] <cg2916> edbian: unetbootin
[19:08] <bacana> tem algum brazuca ai?
[19:08] <xgt001> i searched the forums but no avail :(
[19:08] <just_some_dude> bonjoyee: it is checked
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> cg2916:  if you were installing ubuntu to a real hard drive. it would of been best to do a normal install and not use unetbootin at all.
[19:08] <Dragynbane__> Hey, I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 Beta, and I'm trying to install Python-gtkhtml2, and I keep getting an error trying to install it, I'm trying to install the package for the prerequisites of another.
[19:08] <cg2916> Dr_Willis: so i should use wubi?
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> cg2916:  last i checked the unetbootin->hd install was a 'live cd' clone type nstall. so was not very flexiable.
[19:09] <cg2916> Dr_willis: ok
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> cg2916:  I dont use wubi. If i want to install ubuntu.. I install it.. in the 'normal way'
[19:09] <edbian> cg2916, You just change it from USB device to your hdd.  There is another complication here though.
[19:09] <ThinkT510> !natty | Dragynbane__
[19:09] <cg2916> ok
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> cg2916:  and you can do a 'normal' install to a external usb hd if you wanted to.
[19:09] <frybye> Dr_Willis: hang on I will leave this chatzilla running on this pc and start the other to ubuntu...
[19:09] <Dragynbane__> hmmmm, not the answer I was expecting, but I guess what has to be said needs to be./
[19:10] <Space_Cadet> Hello room :)
[19:10] <Dragynbane__> well, guess it's back to 10.10 where everything worked,
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> Dragynbane__:  thats why 11.04 is called beta
[19:11] <ThinkT510> Dragynbane__: ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> ThinkT510:  he aparently couldent be bothered to actually try to fix the problem..
[19:11] <erUSUL> !br | bacana
[19:11] <bignono1> need to upgrade ff to ver 4 ,what is the command?
[19:12] <erUSUL> !ff4
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> bignono1:  enable a PPA for it.. and update/upgrade
[19:12] <bacana> ok erUSUL desculpe
[19:12] <bignono1> ppa?
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | bignono1
[19:12] <Space_Cadet> I am having an issue installing Ubuntu 10.10 on one of my desktops......the live cd loads fine, the install also goes fine. Upon the 1st boot my monitor goes to sleep every time. I am guessing it is a video card issue that prob requires restricted drivers. Thoughts? Nvidia 9500 1gb ram.
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> Space_Cadet:  try the 'nomodeset' option untoll  You get the nvidia-drivers installed.
[19:13] <edbian> Space_Cadet, press shift during boot to get the grub menu.  add nomodeset to the end of the linux line
[19:13] <Space_Cadet> so boot to command line and do that?
[19:13] <frybye> Dr. Willis - with jockey-text it just said   Searching for available drivers.... and then went straight back to prompt.. has anything actually happened do you think?
[19:13] <edbian> Space_Cadet, no, press shift during boot time.  You will get to the grub menu.  That has the linux line that you need to edit.
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> Space_Cadet:  grub has a option to 'edit' its boot line. replace 'quiet splash' with 'quiet splash nomodeset'
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> frybye:  try installing nvidia-current package perhaps
[19:14] <Space_Cadet> ok thanks :)
[19:14] <atul> edbian, system got rebooted , i will try n tell u in some mins
[19:14] <frybye> what command do I have to use    sudo apt-get install nvidia-current   or??
[19:14] <edbian> atul, You have the slowest booting system ever :)
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> !info nvidia-current
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> frybye:  yes.
[19:14] <atul> edbian, ture :)
[19:14] <frybye> thanks...
[19:14] <edbian> frybye, yes, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:15] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello can anyone please recommend me a search for files/ folders application like kfind?
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> asdfasdfasdfasdf:  try the 'locate' command?  theres other find tools in the repos. depending on your needs.
[19:15] <frybye> Dr_Willis: how do I start the gui manually then... when it is done...?
[19:16] <erUSUL> asdfasdfasdfasdf: Aplications>Accesories>search files
[19:16] <frybye> and what is the key-combination to get access to the control tiles on left of the screen...?
[19:16] <edbian> frybye, restart or sudo gdm or startx
[19:16] <edbian> frybye, control tiles?
[19:16] <frybye> in natty...
[19:16] <frybye> in thier # was getting no replys.. sorry...
[19:16] <edbian> frybye, I don't think you can with keyboard buttons.
[19:16] <pragmaticenigma> !natty | frybye
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> frybye:  reboot after installing the nvidia drivers
[19:17] <frybye> ok.. thanks...
[19:18] <wtCoder> whois zgr
[19:18] <atul> edbian, it's broadcom BCM4312
[19:19] <edbian> wtCoder, No whois server is known for this kind of object.
[19:19] <edbian> atul, Are you connected to the Internet on this machine using wired (or some other way?)
[19:19] <wtCoder> tks
[19:19] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> erUSUL, how can i launch it from console?
[19:20] <atul> edbian, no but i have another machine where i can download package and install it
[19:20] <erUSUL> asdfasdfasdfasdf: genome-search-tool
[19:20] <edbian> atul, it is easiest if you can get internet on the target machine but if you can't then do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43
[19:20] <Unearthly> So apparently Unetbootin creates bad bootable USBs. https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bug/373086
[19:20] <frybye> Dr_Willis: thanks again  that seems to hav done the trick...
[19:20] <edbian> atul, Scroll down waaaaaaaaay to the bottom and follow 'b43 - No Internet Access'
[19:20] <moreral> Hi, good afternoon :)
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> Unearthly:  thers been issues with the default syslinux menus in unetbootin and even in the ubuntu usb-disk creator tool in the past.
[19:21] <pragmaticenigma> Does anyone know why my CD/DVD drive keeps ejecting my disks as soon as I put one in, and then continue to eject even when there is no disk in the drive?
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> Unearthly:  You could use grub2 to boot the ISO file if you wanted.
[19:21] <moreral> I tried updating to Natty from Maverick and now I keep getting errors on boot, such as "Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init"
[19:22] <zimm3r> I recently installed Xubuntu using WUBI and disabled boot.ini (because both grub and boot.ini where running one after the other) after doing that I select Windows XP in grub and get an error (I think it was unrecongonized command drivemap but it disappear pretty fast) is my grub.cfg corrupt ( http://pastebin.com/rXfQ0e6P )
[19:22] <Barel_> hallo
[19:22] <Unearthly> Dr_Willis: Do you any instructions for doing that? I'm not experienced with using grub.
[19:22] <pragmaticenigma> !natty | moreral
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[19:22] <Unearthly> Thanks.
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> Unearthly:  check my http://delicious.com/dr_willis links also. theres some i bookmarked
[19:23] <Space_Cadet> yup nomodeset fixed it................thank you guys very much :)
[19:23] <Barel_> Is there some possibility, how to try gnome4 on ubuntu?
[19:23] <moreral> pragmaticenigma: I'll take my problem there, thanks
[19:23] <Unearthly> Will do.
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> Barel_: There isn't a gnome4 yet
[19:23] <bonjoyee> !kms | Space_Cadet
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> Barel_:  proberly best to find a live cd with it allready isntalled to test anything like that
[19:23] <Barel_> thx everybody
[19:24] <Newb4Life> What's a good IRC client for Nix?
[19:24] <userdel> i have  usb drive which stores data in it but once removed doesn't allow anyone to access any files next time it's put back.
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> moreral: I suggest waiting until the final release of natty before installing it
[19:24] <userdel> but shows the used and free area properly.
[19:24] <erUSUL> Newb4Life: xchat
[19:24] <zimm3r> Newb4Life Irssi
[19:24] <userdel> can anyone solve this permission settings which is not happening with chmod
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> userdel: are you just unplugging the drive from the computer or are you using the eject/unmount tool before remiving the drive?
[19:25] <userdel> pragmaticenigma: safe unmount and eject
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> userdel: what file system is the drive formatted to?
[19:25] <mindmaster> Newb4Life: if you like "graphical" xchat, if you like being able to screen your chat window with terminals.. irssi :)
[19:25] <userdel> pragmaticenigma: fat32
[19:26] <Newb4Life> Thanks.  I'm using xchat now, but its nowhere near as good as Xchat2 for windows.
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> if you run 'ls -l' on the drives contents what are the file permissions set to? and whom does it say the owner of the files are?
[19:26] <mindmaster> userdel: are you syncing before you yank the usb drive out?
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> userdel: if you run 'ls -l' on the drive's contents what are the file permissions set to? and whom does it say the owner of the files are?
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> mindmaster: he already mentioned that he uses the safe remove feature
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> userdel:  be sure to unmount the device befor yanking it out also...
[19:27] <bill_> is there a program in wicth it will hide my photos?
[19:27] <mindmaster> Newb4Life: irssi is better than xchat functionally, but has a learning curve.. imho
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> Newb4Life:  i perfer weechat to irssi. :) but it depends on your needs
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> bill_: Suggestion is to burn the photos to CD and not store them on the computer
[19:28] <Newb4Life> erUSUL  How do you get xchat to display the list of users in the chat?
[19:28] <userdel> pragmaticenigma: drwx------ 2 user1 user1 16384 1970-01-01 05:30 K
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> Newb4Life:  they should be on the left hand side. theres a setting to show/hide that listing.
[19:28] <erUSUL> Newb4Life: install plain xchat instead of xchat-gnome
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> Newb4Life:  or on the right hand side. :) i forget where.
[19:28] <Newb4Life> I only see the list of servers and rooms I am in.
[19:28] <RoDiMuS-X> New4life: go to view > user list
[19:28] <userdel> mindmaster : i am doing a safe eject
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> Newb4Life:  yea. xchat-gnome is a bit brain dead. use normal xchat
[19:28] <Newb4Life> Ah, ok
[19:28] <Newb4Life> lol
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> User listings are often useless in huge channels like this one.
[19:29] <bfri> does anyone know how to install java applet?
[19:29] <BluesKaj> !irc | Newb4Life
[19:29] <bonjoyee> bfri: install java applet?
[19:29] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[19:29] <Newb4Life> So what does it mean to "screen my chat window"?
[19:29] <dbugger> hey guys. Is there any software for Ubuntu that I can use to monitor how many IPs are conencted to my Wifi?
[19:29] <pragmaticenigma> userdel: did this just recently happen or has the drive always been like this
[19:30] <bfri> bonjoyee: yes
[19:30] <userdel> pragmaticenigma: always
[19:30] <bonjoyee> bfri: you mean run a java applet?
[19:30] <userdel> pragmaticenigma:  when i do sudo chmod 777 /media/K there is no error but nothing changes!!!
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> dbugger:  that would be a feature of your router in most cases if you are using a router.
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> dbugger:  if you are not . then you could watch your dhcp server logs I guess.
[19:31] <bfri> bonjoyee: well i can't access a digital key loggin on my bank's webpage because the java apt doesnt show up
[19:31] <bonjoyee> !java | bfri
[19:31] <Newb4Life> Brb
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> userdel:  one normally does not chown/chmod vfat/ntfs partitions. the options to set the permissiosn are set when its mounted.
[19:31] <gnugr> !fglrx
[19:31] <bfri> bonjoyee: i just the following steps
[19:31] <bfri> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ maverick partner"
[19:31] <bfri>      sudo apt-get update
[19:31] <bfri>      sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[19:31] <bfri>      sudo update-alternatives --config java
[19:31] <FloodBot1> bfri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:31] <pragmaticenigma> userdel: it won't change anything because the drive is formatted in FAT32, which doesn't store file permissions the same way linux based format do
[19:32] <harrumph> trying to recover root.  hit ESCS at grub . following instructions that say append a line that begins "kernel xn--xn--xn--"  no such line on the scree. what do?
[19:32] <dbugger> Dr_Willis, I am using a router, but I was wondering if there was some software that could do the same
[19:32] <userdel> pragmaticenigma: ok. so how do i change it or make it proper!
[19:32] <harrumph> *ESC
[19:32] <userdel> Dr_Willis: when mounted how do i do it?
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> dbugger:  depending on the router, theres tools that can monitor the routers logging features.
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> userdel: I'm not certain at this point.  Are there any hidden files on the drive that look like it might have the files locked?
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> userdel:  remount it with the proper options.
[19:33] <dbugger> Dr_Willis, dor example
[19:33] <dbugger> ?
[19:33] <userdel> pragmaticenigma: nothing important or hidden . just two files which i copied for testing
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[19:33] <mindmaster> New4Life: screen just lets you have multiple terminal based aps on one window.. you can switch between the windows with CTRL-A + # (starting at 0). It also lets you detach from the windows and attach to them from other sessions on your computer.
[19:34] <userdel> Dr_Willis: ok looking at it
[19:35] <harrumph> what line do i edit in grub to boot into passwordless root shell
[19:36] <erUSUL> harrumph: you do not need to edit anything. choose recovery mode in grub menu. then choose drop to root shell
[19:36] <zimm3r> when I try and boot windows with grub I get this error Error: unknown command 'drivemap'. but booting xubuntu works fine and I haven't edited the grub.cfg file and wubi set up the install, do I have to upgrade grub or something?
[19:36] <harrumph> erUSUL: thanks
[19:36] <Space_Cadet> !kms
[19:37] <tinis> zimmer use e proper patition to install it not wubi and you will be fine :)
[19:37] <erkan^> !zim
[19:37] <atul> edbian, thanks
[19:39] <bignono1> thank you all
[19:39] <zimm3r> tinis can I install it from the wubi install (I have no blank cds to burn the iso to at the moment)
[19:40] <ThinkT510> zimm3r: you could use a usb instead
[19:40] <ThinkT510> !usb | zimm3r
[19:40] <zimm3r> ok thanks
[19:42] <futamill> I am trying to install ubuntu along my windows install on sandybridge with a i5 2500K, but my main harddrive won't show up it is using sata3 i believe
[19:44] <geegeegee> futamill, check there are drivers for it
[19:44] <geegeegee> the sata controller i mean
[19:44] <futamill> geegeegee ok hmm if not then i'm out of luck
[19:45] <geegeegee> futamill, probably yeah
[19:46] <serialhex> ok, i have an incredibly important question of inevitable doom!!!!!
[19:46] <gmachine_24> settle down
[19:46] <serialhex> i'm running kubuntu and for whatever reason, even though i've turned off all the powersave features, the monitor always goes blank after ~15mins
[19:47] <Logan_> !kubuntu | serialhex
[19:47] <serialhex> ...ok, so maybe i exagerated a bit... but it's REALLY REALLY ANNOYING!!!
[19:47] <serialhex> ahh, ok
[19:47] <serialhex> :P
[19:47] <gmachine_24> I am building a media server/NAS computer using Linux/Ubuntu - is there any reason to install the server version of Ubuntu vs. the regular desktop version and use Samba? Pardon my ignorance.
[19:47] <dagon666> inevitable doom... indeed
[19:47] <lianyi> 有中国人没有啊
[19:48] <gmachine_24> this machine will only be used as a home device, fyi
[19:48] <serialhex> :P  yes, incredible doom... my music stops playing out my monitor speakers!!!!
[19:48] <opiate> what is the best partitioning program for the shell?
[19:48] <ThinkT510> !zh | lianyi
[19:48] <gmachine_24> serialhex did you take some meds or forget to take your meds?
[19:48] <bonjoyee> gmachine_24: if you are comfortable with cli..go with the server...its a lot lighter..
[19:48] <mindmaster> gmachine_24: only difference between desktop and server is the length of how long the software is maintained for each release they both run the same actually "software"
[19:49] <gmachine_24> bonjoyee, ok, thanks. I can do CLI. To do degree.
[19:49] <gmachine_24> mindmaster, so . . . is the server maintained longer or does it vary with each release?
[19:49] <mindmaster> gmachine_24: if you are not running a monitor on it though use the server version
[19:49] <TheTinyToon> Hi there, got a regression bug for my "Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300", which doesn't work anymore in natty. The hardwareswitch only activates the bluetooth part and not the wireless, which also shows in iwconfig (ESSID: any/off). Any hints?
[19:50] <bonjoyee> gmachine_24: normal releases 3 years, lts 5 years!!
[19:50] <ThinkT510> !natty | TheTinyToon
[19:50] <TheTinyToon> thanks, ThinkT510
[19:50] <gmachine_24> mindmaster, yes, I was wondering about that as well. I have a comp that I have used as a music server using slimserver of squeezebox whatever it is called now .. and that just runs an old  version of Ubuntu
[19:51] <gmachine_24> bonjoyee, ok, thanks. I just have so many hard drives scattered around home on so many difference computers that it's crazy to keep up with what is where
[19:51] <opiate> which program can manage partitions in the shell???
[19:51] <mindmaster> gmachine_24: what bonjoyee said... for most home hackers the pick doesn't really matter.. the other difference is that servers are compiled with PAE (>4GB support) on the 32bit client.. that's really the only difference.. if you are running 64bit it's the same either way really
[19:51] <erUSUL> opiate: parted or fdisk or cfdisk
[19:51] <ThinkT510> opiate: cfdisk
[19:51] <opiate> ty
[19:51] <gmachine_24> mindmaster, ok, again, thanks.
[19:52] <mindmaster> I doubt you will run that version of the OS for 3 years w/o an upgrade you are likely to upgrade with the major releases
[19:53] <gmachine_24> so, I am thinking of building this with some older hardware - like Athlon 2.3 Ghz and 1.5GB of ram . . . and using a 7-10 bay case ... with sata plug in pci cards.... but maybe I should just build a rig out of new hardware?
[19:53] <bonjoyee> mindmaster: if its a server i would not bother upgrading until eol !! ...
[19:54] <bonjoyee> gmachine_24: thats perfect for a file server...i dont think you need a new machine...
[19:54] <mindmaster> bonjoyee: you are likely to "have" to do so though because of feature upgrades in that period time.. undoubtedly there will be something you need to have from those upgrades :)
[19:54] <bonjoyee> mindmaster: on a cli based server?
[19:54] <Ed-Home> hi I have 500 screens in my ubuntu, is there a way to killall screens?
[19:55] <mindmaster> gmachine_24: file servers need decent disks/controllers not memory or cpu speed
[19:55] <gmachine_24> bonjoyee, ok, great. that's what I thought. I see all these nutty NAS things sold by Iomega or whomever which cost a small fortune....
[19:56] <gmachine_24> and with hd prices still plummeting there's no sense in buying more than a couple of drives to start, right? like 2 2TB drives I figure
[19:56] <benzaldehyde> bonjoyee: that what seem like overkill to me for a headless install, it's more than i use for desktop
[19:56] <gmachine_24> mindmaster, thanks.
[19:56] <Ed-Home> I have a bout 500 screens when I do this:   screen -list    is there a way for me to screen kill    for all of them?
[19:56] <bonjoyee> gmachine_24: you could invest in some gigabit ethernet cards/routers...if other devices are gigabit..
[19:56] <gmachine_24> wow, you guys have been great.
[19:57] <gmachine_24> bonjoyee, yeah, I was reading up a big and the gigabit cards and routers seem like a really good idea.
[19:57] <gmachine_24> and then one kick*** UPS
[19:57] <gmachine_24> I put the *** in
[19:57] <j_ayen_green> I'm trying to do a rdiff-backup full backup, first one to this nas, and as soon as it starts I get lines like UpdateError bin/bzcat Updated mirror temp file /mnt/nas/bin/rdiff-backup.tmp.5 does not match source
[19:57] <j_ayen_green> ...why?
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Ed-Home:  killall screen
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> guess he figured it out.
[19:58] <mindmaster> heh at that point.. reboot.. it's faster lol
[19:58] <brothersman> #project-voodoo
[19:58] <gmachine_24> wow Sunday is a really good day to come to this room.
[19:58] <mindmaster> or killall screen
[19:58] <compdoc> it is?
[19:59] <gmachine_24> I think so. Other days it's so crazy
[19:59] <mindmaster> dunno I've only been in here 3 days
[19:59] <mindmaster> but linuxing since slackware 1.0
[19:59] <gmachine_24> slack, ahhh
[20:00] <gmachine_24> I tried to start in 1995 but I was a computer noob and it was way above my head then
[20:00] <mindmaster> shesh.. that's 1993
[20:00] <roboss> hi all
[20:00] <roboss> how do i know what ver of Xubuntu im useing
[20:00] <mindmaster> heh, it was above my head at the time as well
 but linuxing since slackware 1.0 <--- LIES
[20:01] <benzaldehyde> roboss: cat /etc/issue
[20:01] <mindmaster> yea, don't care what you think really lol
[20:01] <dios_mio> :)
[20:01] <gmachine_24> has anyone else used macbuntu on a laptop or whatever? ;)
[20:01] <mindmaster> nah.. I installed it on desktop though
[20:02] <gmachine_24> I did it to make my machead friends go crazy
[20:02] <gmachine_24> they were like "what is that?"
[20:02] <gmachine_24> plus it's *pretty*
[20:02] <opiate> can i integrate a /home/ folder from an older installatian to a brand new ubuntu installation?
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[20:02] <gmachine_24> opiate, do you mean copy?
[20:02] <gmachine_24> ?
[20:03] <opiate> now integrate on two separate harddrives
[20:03] <Unearthly> What is a program that can extract files from an ISO that have > 64 character file names? Windows or Linux.
[20:03] <altin> does anyone know how to install systraq on debian based system this case UBUNTU ???
[20:03] <opiate> one hdd with /home/ and one with the rest of the system
[20:03] <userdel> Dr_Willis:  i did this sudo mount -t vfat -o defaults,user,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000 /dev/sdb1 /media/fat_partition
[20:03] <gmachine_24> opiate, can't you just copy the files and folders from one drive to the other?
[20:03] <evening> Newbie problem: I seem to have broken the association between Yelp and the documents it should read. (Likely cause: I messed with a file in usr/share/gnome/help/internet/C.) And so the Help documents no longer open. (More precisely, I can get the top level of Help docs but can't go deeper.) I gather I can go to the file I messed up, click "open with," add a "custom command," add "Yelp ghelp" as the right application to use, and have that appl
[20:03] <evening> y to all similar files. No? But it seems some further argument is needed. That's what I need help with. What should I specify in "open with"? (Or where should I look for that info?)
[20:03] <home> i have a skype question
[20:04] <opiate> y but i would like to have two separate hdds
[20:04] <opiate> are there any problems with rights?
[20:04] <home> can #ubuntu help me with skype question
[20:04] <userdel> Dr_Willis: but same problem. it's writing but next time i mount it's not shown but space is shown used
[20:04] <ThinkT510> !skype | home
[20:04] <gmachine_24> opiate, I'm still confused.
[20:04] <home> #ubuntu my mic is not working but only on skype
[20:04] <gmachine_24> you have 2 hard drives on the same system, right?
[20:05] <gmachine_24> . . . or not
[20:05] <opiate> gmachine_24: the whole problem: i fucked up my system and need a fresh install. i want to install a new version and use the /home folder of the old one
[20:05] <IdleOne> !language | opiate
[20:05] <gmachine_24> *language*
[20:05] <home> #ubuntu can you help
[20:06] <opiate> sry
[20:06] <home> #ubuntu my mic is not working on skype
[20:06] <gmachine_24> opiate, so you are doing the install on a new/separate hard drive?
[20:06] <ThinkT510> opiate: thats more of a headache than simply creating a new one
[20:06] <[thor]> !ask | home
[20:06] <gmachine_24> ThinkT510, amen
[20:06] <ShakeyJake> home: if someone knows, theyll answer, dont clutter the channel up
[20:06] <opiate> gmachine_24 and if possible i would like to use the old /home folder and jsut- delete the rest of the old system
[20:06] <userdel> pragmaticenigma: so now the access files permission is nill but user can create and delete files!!!
[20:07] <[thor]> home: does your mic work in other applications?
[20:07] <opiate> gmachine_24 y im jsut installing on a new harddrive
[20:07] <home> my mic is not working but only on skype anyone have a anwser
[20:07] <fds2> how I mount a partition and copy /home to it from the CLI?
[20:07] <gmachine_24> opiate, well, if I have this correct, you can install Ubuntu on the new drive
[20:07] <opiate> gmachine_24: but it is a lot smaller than the old one, so...
[20:07] <gmachine_24> and then plug in and mount etc. the previous drive
[20:07] <ThinkT510> !mount | fds2
[20:07] <Kartagis> !info php
[20:07] <opiate> ok
[20:07] <Kartagis> !info php5
[20:08] <home> anyone
[20:08] <home> have a anwser
[20:08] <mindmaster> home: do you have permissions to the audio devices?
[20:09] <gmachine_24> opiate, you obviously need to have enough room to copy the file from the old drive to the new one
[20:09] <gmachine_24> *files
[20:09] <gmachine_24> but I would make sure to create a separate /home partition on the new drive during the install
[20:09] <mindmaster> opiate: I'd just tarball that home directory copy the file off to something and unbox it after I wipe and reinstall the machine
[20:09] <[thor]> home: have you turned on the mic boost?
[20:09] <dogarrhea1> does anyone know why xgetpixel returns funny colors?
[20:10] <mindmaster> then just copy the few things I need (my .files mostly) and put it all back
[20:10] <opiate> gmachine_24: that is the problem: i dont want to copy the files. i just want to use the old /home folder as my new one. (and delete all the other old system stuff)
[20:10] <opiate> gmachine_24: and the /home folder should stay on the old hdd
[20:10] <gmachine_24> opiate, I think that is way too much trouble. mindmaster's tarball idea is good
[20:10] <ShakeyJake> opiate: is the home on a separate partition or is it all on the same one?
[20:10] <benzaldehyde> opiate: resize
[20:11] <benzaldehyde> opiate: partition seperate and install frehs
[20:11] <opiate> k i will try to partition and install on the same hdd
[20:11] <dogarrhea1> why do the xlib man pages always look like vomit with no examples?
[20:11] <mindmaster> opiate: honestly though, what did you break that you need to reinstall.. I've never nearly reinstalled a linux machine for that reason.. I may have had to reinstall packages :)
[20:11] <opiate> is this what you mean?
[20:12] <gmachine_24> so, I wonder about this ..... because there are so many hidden files in the /home folder ... how do I deal with that? I back up my system in one tar.gz file minus the /home folder and a few others and then back up my docs and media stuff (i.e. /home) in a separate tar.gz file. But there are so many hidden files... do I need to back these up?
[20:12] <lament> yes.
[20:12] <r3m> synaptic shows 3 categorie for game. Game, Game (universe) and Game (multiverse) can i know the difference please
[20:12] <opiate> im more a beginner but: i broke my gdm and thought that an upgrade to natty would make things better... now i have two broken os on one disk. too much for me to fix :-)
[20:13] <benzaldehyde> sort off, resize what you have. place everything on your life raft and then when you install copy it all over to /home and delete and resize
[20:13] <dagon666> opiate: why dont you reinstall gdm instead ?
[20:13] <opiate> i treid
[20:13] <mindmaster> yea, reinstalling gdm is a much better option
[20:13] <gmachine_24> opiate, well, the one thing is you want to be sure to have a safe back up of your /home stuff
[20:13] <opiate> i tried reinstalling gdm
[20:13] <opiate> i tried reinstalling ubuntu-dektop
[20:13] <ThinkT510> r3m: mostly license issues
[20:13] <gmachine_24> opiate, separate from everything else
[20:14] <dagon666> opiate: first of all, what do you mean by "breaking gdm", second what is wrong with it really ?
[20:14] <r3m> ThinkT510, thanks
[20:14] <mindmaster> you will have to use "apt-get purge" vs apt-get "remove"
[20:14] <Kartagis> what is php-mcrypt used for?
[20:14] <megamanx1978> Hi can someone help me change my login screen?
[20:14] <mindmaster> remove leaves the config files
[20:14] <Kartagis> !info php5-mcrypt
[20:15] <opiate> dagon666: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/151378, but its far worse now
[20:15] <opiate> it doesnt even boot anymore after the upgrade tonatty
[20:15] <Lxndr> What is the best way to access Netflix's instant watch through ubuntu?
[20:15] <gmachine_24> Lxndr, you can't
[20:15] <ThinkT510> opiate: natty support in #ubuntu+1
[20:16] <mindmaster> lxndr: that's not possible
[20:16] <benzaldehyde> opiate: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[20:16] <benzaldehyde> opiate: startfluxbox
[20:16] <megamanx1978> How I do change my login screen?
[20:16] <gmachine_24> that was easy
[20:17] <Logan_> Lxndr: Moonlight would hypothetically be able to, but it doesn't have DRM support
[20:17] <Kartagis> is it possible to later upgrade php from 5.2 to 5.3 on karmic?
[20:17] <dagon666> opiate: still I dont consider it as a reason for a reinstallation
[20:18]  * lianyi 鼓掌
[20:18] <opiate> thanks but i think i will just reinstall and take my old /home folder... and i found something helpful http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/19/ubuntu-tricks-how-to-generate-a-list-of-installed-packages-and-use-it-to-reinstall-packages/
[20:18] <Promethes> plymouth sometimes hangs, not showing gdm, nothing in logs, anyone knows what can cause such behavior?
[20:18] <Promethes> i use lucid i386
[20:18] <opiate> im sure it is possible to fix it anyhow, but perhaps its faster to reinstall for me :-)
[20:18] <gmachine_24> the movie industry hates the open source community
[20:19] <benzaldehyde> gmachine_24: that's not true
[20:19] <gmachine_24> :D
[20:19] <ThinkT510> Promethes: do you use nvidia?
[20:19] <Promethes> ThinkT510: yes
[20:19] <erUSUL> !cn | lianyi
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> Lxndr:  windows in virtualbox works...
[20:19] <ThinkT510> Promethes: it has issues with plymouth
[20:19] <gmachine_24> benzaldehyde, perhaps. not. but they are very suspicous
[20:20] <Lxndr> Dr_Willis: Cool. How can I make that happen w/o having any physical copies of windows?
[20:20] <Promethes> ThinkT510: i have 4 machines with nvidia hardware, after lucid premiere every machine hanged sometimes on plymouth, now only one crashes
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> Lxndr:  legally... go buy a copy of windopws.
[20:21] <benzaldehyde> gmachine_24: content is propietary it only makes sense that an open source community would not deal in licensed software
[20:21] <gmachine_24> suspicious, even
[20:21] <Sik> Silly question: what's dpkg?
[20:21] <benzaldehyde> or content
[20:21] <Jasonn> to install a .deb file
[20:21] <Lxndr> Dr_Willis: I'm happy to be slightly less than legal in this one situation.
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  sudo dpkg -i foo.deb (or use gdebi foo.deb)
[20:21] <gmachine_24> benzaldehyde, perhaps. but mp3 is proprietary - at least it was.
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> Lxndr:  go find a copy then.
[20:22] <Logan_> !dpkg | Sik
[20:22] <Sik> UGH
[20:22] <ThinkT510> Promethes: plymouth has never displayed properly for me with nvidia nvs3100
[20:22] <gmachine_24> but I understand what you mean if you're talking about DRM
[20:22] <Sik> For some reason the Ubuntu installer keeps getting a bus error I/O when trying to set up dpkg
[20:22] <Promethes> ThinkT510: is there a way to disable plymouth and have fully functional text output, with information about disk checks?
[20:22] <Sik> Moreover, now I have an unbootable hard disk, and yes, the CD check passes >:(
[20:23] <ThinkT510> Promethes: i'd like to know the answer to that too, sorry i'm not that helpful :)
[20:23] <Promethes> ThinkT510: ok
[20:24] <gmachine_24> however, you can watch movies/TV from amazon because - for better or worse - they use flash
[20:24] <Promethes> anyone knows how to enable disk check information on boot time when plymouth is disabled in lucid? Now, with disabled plymouth i don't see disk check information when it occurs, which is very annoying
[20:25] <gnugr> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth
[20:25] <benzaldehyde> watching a movie right now, browsing webages, irc chat and running another terminal on a little powerpc64 playstation
[20:25] <gmachine_24> Sik do you have the exact error
[20:26] <gmachine_24> benzaldehyde, interesting name
[20:26] <Sik> gmachine_24: bus I/O error in the console (when clicking the arrow to show stdout/stderr)
[20:26] <real> does anyone know how to change to a 1080p resolution? The max the default goes to is 1600x1200
[20:26] <Sik> Then it throws me some error that dpkg failed to set up... can't copy it exactly due to, well, having to reboot >_>
[20:26] <Calif> I'm trying to setup a two interface shorewall on ubuntu. I've read a few tutorials, and man pages on the various files, including 'masq' - The tutorial says that if im using eth0, than I don't need to modify the sample file (which it provides a broken link to). I can't see if their sample is identical to the one I'm working out of, which is totally blank.
[20:27] <Calif> Is anyone familiar with shorewall, and whether I do infact have to add the eth0 line under the masq file if I'm doing NAT?
[20:27] <DETERMINOLOGY> damn
[20:28] <PeterNL> Hi, when I tried to mount my windows partition an authentication window appeared, which usually doesn't happen. I entered my password, and the authentication window doesn't respons to the buttons. I can expand/collapse the details section. When I try to mount the partition again it shows the error on the right: http://imgur.com/SQkME
[20:29] <Calif> sec PeterNL
[20:29] <andai> creating a new wireless network is taking forever... literally... why?
[20:29] <erUSUL> Calif: maybe you can find the samples in --> /usr/share/doc/shorewall
[20:29] <userdel> can someone help me with mounting fat32 usb with access to files?
[20:29] <Calif> erUSUL, I found the samples, and copied them no problem
[20:29] <gmachine_24> userdel, can't you just plug it in?
[20:29] <fds2> !cp
[20:29] <Calif> I went to edit the masq file though, and it's got no entries for interfaces
[20:30] <Sik> So yeah, my problem is: Ubuntu installer copies everything to hard disk, downloads stuff, then it panics with some error message involving dpkg (is it crashing?). Last time it crashed when downloading language packages.
[20:30] <Calif> It was just kind of unclear in the tutorial whether I actually have to add it.
[20:30] <djclaption> Hello
[20:30] <mojo_> hello
[20:30] <gmachine_24> ask a question. stop saying hello.
[20:31] <Calif> PeterNL, Are you an administrator on this system? If your user isn't an administrator account it will not accept your password to allow the drive to mount.
[20:31] <PeterNL> Calif: I am
[20:32] <Calif> This is via a GUI, have you tried to do this using a command to mount it manually?
[20:32] <PeterNL> Calif: that works
[20:33] <tan> anyone who can help getting OpenGL with ATI X2300 mobility Radeon to work in Natty? it gives segmentation fault when installing fglrx...
[20:33] <PeterNL> But this annoying window in still there
[20:33] <ThinkT510> !natty | tan
[20:33] <tan> ok, thanks
[20:33] <Calif> PeterNL, That's odd then, I'm just grabbing straws at this point, but have you tried a clean boot of the system ?
[20:34] <Calif> Maybe try another user account.
[20:34] <PeterNL> Calif: I could, but I'd like not to reboot. It remonds me too much of windows.
[20:34] <Calif> lol
[20:34] <Calif> I hear you
[20:34] <hubertchang> who use ubuntu with DELL N4010?
[20:34] <PeterNL> And there is no ther user :)
[20:35] <PeterNL> Well, I'll just ognore the thing for today
[20:35] <Calif> Good luck
[20:35] <PeterNL> ignore*
[20:35] <PeterNL> I minimized it on an empty workspace :D
[20:35] <Calif> lol
[20:36] <PeterNL> Hehe, lol indeed
[20:36] <benzaldehyde> PeterNL: have you tried ps aux
[20:36] <PeterNL> I did, but I have no idea what process it is
[20:36] <benzaldehyde> PeterNL: perhaps it is a pid you can kill -9
[20:36] <benzaldehyde> the one that is been going for 9999 minutes?
[20:37] <PeterNL> I can kill everything with (sudo) kill(all) (-9)
[20:37] <PeterNL> But whet's with 9999 minutes?
[20:37] <PeterNL> What*
[20:37] <benzaldehyde> well if you look down the list and see something that is going since that popped up odds are that is the culprit
[20:38] <Calif> anyone familiar with using 'masq' under shorewall?
[20:38] <PeterNL> benzaldehyde: I can'd find anything wich is running since then
[20:39] <dogarrhea1> hrm
[20:39] <dogarrhea1> there's a lot of blood under my toe nail
[20:40] <benzaldehyde> PeterNL: ps aux > temp.txt
[20:40] <benzaldehyde> PeterNL: pastebin
[20:40] <Sik> ...hey, is it normal to get a bus I/O error on x86?
[20:40] <PeterNL> benzaldehyde: nope. I'll leave it ;)
[20:40] <benzaldehyde> PeterNL: alrighty
[20:40] <pragmaticenigma> Sik: It depends on why you are geting the I/O error
[20:41] <hubertchang> anyone has i915 disabled error?
[20:41] <Sik> I wish I knew! It's like dpkg is crashing or something, I get it while it's downloading packages
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> Sik:  If the system is otherwise stable, I wouldn't worry too much
[20:41] <Sik> Also occassionally the LiveCD does it too, at which point I have to reboot the system because it won't load new processes anymore >_> (and yes, the CD check passes)
[20:42] <hubertchang> On DELL Inspirion N4010, I always got the error:   drm/i915 can't work without intel_agp module!   intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: failed to get i915 symbols, graphics turbo disabled. My kernel is 2.6.38, and the config for AGP is CONFIG_AGP=y CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHOO=y
[20:42] <pragmaticenigma> Sik: What is the system configuration? Processor, Video Card, RAM etc...
[20:43] <Sik> Celeron D (32-bit), 895MB RAM, 160GB hard disk, some Sony CD drive >_> S3 Chrome virge, Envy24 sound card without drivers =P
[20:43] <hubertchang> modprobe conf for intel-ips: softdep intel_ips pre: i915
[20:43] <ThinkT510> hubertchang: you running natty? if so help is in #ubuntu+1
[20:43] <pragmaticenigma> Sik: Culprit is likely your CD-ROM drive
[20:43] <pragmaticenigma> Sik: I personally have had problems with Sony drives
[20:44] <Sik> pragmaticenigma: well, I don't have money and now my hard disk is unbootable, so what do I do? :| Should I try installing without downloads?
[20:44] <Sik> Since it fails at the download stage (all files get copied)
[20:44] <Sik> In fact, if all files are in the hard disk already, isn't there any way to make that bootable?
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> Sik: yes, install without the download updates function
[20:44] <sporkboy> okay, so if I want to use my box as a wifi repeater, do I have to have  wifi cards?
[20:45] <Sik> pragmaticenigma: OK I guess, I suppose I can run the download part from the already installed Ubuntu, right? I'll try that then :) BRB
[20:45] <pipa> Hi, Anyone know howto capture or record sound output, I have been looking at alsa file plugin, but never got it to work...
[20:45] <pragmaticenigma> Sik: There is probably a way to do get your system to boot, but it's going to take less time to start from scratch
[20:46] <pragmaticenigma> sporkboy: typically a wifi repeater to work is going to need wifi adapters
[20:47] <sporkboy> pragmaticenigma, is there a possible way to do it with just one, though? all I can find is one for bridging a wired and wireless network.
[20:47] <benzaldehyde> pragmaticenigma: wifi is a thorn
[20:47] <PeterNL> Heh, dirextx/wine/fglrx/X crashed, so I got my reboot after all ;)
[20:47] <pragmaticenigma> sporkboy: yes, there is a way, but your going to have better results with two
[20:48] <wonderworld> PeterNL: ctrl-alt-print-K
[20:48] <sporkboy> pragmaticenigma, just trying to get stuff working for now with what I have, so I'm okay with sub-optimal. I think it'll be better than having to leave my phone in the window ;) can you point me in the right direction?
[20:48] <pragmaticenigma> sporkboy: Wifi can only communicate with one device at a time, if you are trying to put all your communications through one wifi adaptor your going to have a huge performance hit
[20:49] <PeterNL> wonderworld: nope. Not with fglrx. It really needs a reboot
[20:49] <pragmaticenigma> sporkboy: I really have never done anything that advanced before personally
[20:49] <benzaldehyde> wonderworld: what's that do?
[20:49] <PeterNL> I guess restart x
[20:49] <wonderworld> yep
[20:49] <PeterNL> but service restart gdm won't even work
[20:50] <benzaldehyde> wonderworld: PeterNL : i did not know that
[20:50] <PeterNL> even sudo shutdown won't
[20:50] <pragmaticenigma> sporkboy: when I build "repeaters" I've used a Network Gaming adaptor and a standard router
[20:50] <andai> installing new version over really old version. Home folder is on separate partition. Can i tell the installer to just use the accounts on the home folder, or do i need to make a new account
[20:50] <sagredo> hello friends. I tried to dist-upgrade from 8.10 to 10.04 and for some reason apt-get is telling me to use -f to fix broken dependencies yet that does not work. Any advice? I can no longer use my mouse+keyboard at gdm login screen
[20:51] <leapy0yo> if I have a two core cpu , then does that mean I can use mplayer at two threads or four... (two or four instances as a thread)
[20:51] <benzaldehyde> PeterNL: i use sudo service gdm stop
[20:51] <jsjgruber_> ! pastebin
[20:51] <PeterNL> benzaldehyde: afaik that won't work either
[20:51] <benzaldehyde> PeterNL: bad luck
[20:51] <Specialist_> hi there! is someone aware of a console font that is smaller than Uni1-VGA8?
[20:52] <Fre> Hi ubuntu ppl. Anyone care to listen to my problem?
[20:52] <sagredo> hello friends. I tried to dist-upgrade from 8.10 to 10.04 and for some reason apt-get is telling me to use -f to fix broken dependencies yet that does not work. Any advice? I can no longer use my mouse+keyboard at gdm login screen
[20:52] <pragmaticenigma> sagredo: the large jump from 8.10 and 10.04 and from a non-LTS to LTS version is not easily going to work
[20:52] <PeterNL> yeah, fglrx sucks. Just like catalyst on windows actually...
[20:52] <pragmaticenigma> sagredo: I would suggest wiping the system and starting from scratch
[20:52] <Specialist_> i need to fit a lengthy kernel backtrace on a single screen
[20:53] <erUSUL> sagredo: you can not jump from version to version like that. problems are expected if you do a single step 8.10 to 10.04 upgrade
[20:53] <ThinkT510> Fre: many people are here, its best not to ask and just post your problem/question
[20:53] <kwtechie> Hello, I am having some sound problems. Everything is just static when I use my Rocketfish soundcard. :(
[20:53] <sagredo> htmmm
[20:53] <pragmaticenigma> Specialist_: You might want to try working in "screen" which will allow you to scroll back and forth through your terminal output
[20:53] <sagredo> ubuntu used to be way leeter
[20:53] <_Alex__> kwtechie: Is it a USB one?
[20:54] <kwtechie> Its PCI
[20:54] <_Alex__> kwtechie: Strange
[20:54] <Specialist_> pragmaticenigma: no, this is for a kernel panic where even MagicSysRq won't work...
[20:54] <Jeanne-Kamikaze> is there a more up to date repository branch than the default in 10.10 ?
[20:54] <erUSUL> sagredo: 8.04 -> 10.04 is supported because both are LTS.
[20:54] <pragmaticenigma> Specialist_: or you can send the output of program you are using to a text file and then read it inside of a text editor
[20:54] <Jeanne-Kamikaze> like, ubuntu unstable or something :)
[20:54] <erUSUL> !backports | Jeanne-Kamikaze
[20:55] <erUSUL> !ppa | Jeanne-Kamikaze
[20:55] <sagredo> erUSUL: what is the name of 10.10 I will try to upgrade again xD
[20:55] <pragmaticenigma> erUSUL: he is going from 8.10 to 10.04
[20:55] <benzaldehyde> sagredo: leetly download the iso a,b,c and to the final release you are after, mount and upgrade one at a time
[20:55] <Jeanne-Kamikaze> kthx
[20:55] <erUSUL> !10.10
[20:55] <desturrr> hi i need urgent solution for c++ compiling
[20:55] <erUSUL> pragmaticenigma: i know
[20:55] <desturrr> g++: build/Debug/GNU-Linux-x86/input.o: No such file or directory
[20:55] <desturrr> there is this error
[20:55] <jsjgruber_> sagredo, for trying to fix what you have : sudo aptitude   is your friend
[20:55] <pragmaticenigma> erUSUL: you just mention 8.04 was LTS not 8.10
[20:55] <sagredo> benzaldehyde: burning discs is not leet
[20:55] <desturrr> while trying to read from a file
[20:56] <sagredo> jsjgruber_: word dawg
[20:56] <benzaldehyde> sagredo:  i did not say burn i said mount
[20:56] <kwtechie> It worked fine in Win 7
[20:56] <Specialist_> pragmaticenigma: effectively all that is still working is printing kernel messages to the screen as the system effectively crashes under certain circumstances. i need to fit the backtrace on a single screen to be able to capture it (using a camera) for a bug report
[20:56] <Fre> If I shutdown my ubuntu 10.10, sometimes it just says terminate proces [ok] and does nothing. Manual shutdown is then necesary. Other times it just shuts down in a few seconds. Also, when I started ubuntu a few minutes ago, it only showed my desktop without GNOME envoirment. Compiz effects didn't work either
[20:56] <spid3rnet> hi how has metaslpoite installed on his ubuntu
[20:56] <erUSUL> pragmaticenigma: read my whole conversation with sagredo
[20:56] <pragmaticenigma> sagredo: Obviously your knowledge of Ubuntu exceeds the current abilities of the people in this room...
[20:56] <sagredo> benzaldehyde: okay okay fairly leet
[20:56] <sagredo> pragmaticenigma: lul
[20:56] <kwtechie> I hate to pop it out and use my onboard sound again.
[20:56] <sagredo> pragmaticenigma: that's true I'll just head back over the cli
[20:57] <sporkboy> you guys are misspelling 1337 :p
[20:57] <desturrr> gcc: input.txt: linker input file unused because linking not done
[20:57] <desturrr> i am trying to read from file
[20:57]  * rww facepalms at sporkboy
[20:57] <desturrr> it gives error
[20:57] <desturrr> gcc: input.txt: linker input file unused because linking not done
[20:57] <wonderworld> running "ubuntu tweak" is lame l33t
[20:57] <benzaldehyde> sagredo: but do yourself a service get off that tired box--11.04 is sweeeeeet
[20:57] <desturrr> what would be the reason?
[20:58] <Fre> uh anyone read my question perhaps?
[20:58] <desturrr> gcc: input.txt: linker input file unused because linking not done, neeeed solutionnn
[20:58] <spid3rnet> help faster guys
[20:58] <spid3rnet> ok
[20:58] <pragmaticenigma> Specialist_: Are you sure the back trace is not being already logged to the syslogs?
[20:58] <desturrr> :)
[20:59] <Specialist_> pragmaticenigma: yes. it happens during s2ram when the hdd is already turned off
[20:59] <hihihi100> does history (terminal) automatically erase the whole list after reaching 500?
[20:59] <pragmaticenigma> Specialist_: Suspend 2 RAM is already known to be buggy, and there are already several bug reports
[21:00] <benzaldehyde> !metaslpoite
[21:00] <pragmaticenigma> !metasploite
[21:00] <aeon-ltd> hihihi100: no its in your bash history file, it pushes all commands back so only the oldest is erased to make space
[21:00] <spid3rnet> yaaaaaa
[21:00] <spid3rnet> pls
[21:00] <Specialist_> pragmaticenigma: well, in my case it's a regression in 10.04
[21:00] <pragmaticenigma> guess I can't spell either
[21:00] <benzaldehyde> spid3rnet: what is metaslpoite
[21:00] <stroke> Hi there.  I've a question: When I look into /etc/fstab, I have proc mounted at /proc and /dev/sdb1 mounted at /.  However when I go to /dev, I don't see any sdb1, but sda1.  Any thoughts??
[21:01] <PeterNL> Hi, does anyone know a good cross-platform open PHP ide besides netbeans and eclipse?
[21:01] <Fre> Aw come on somebody must have read my question right?
[21:01] <hihihi100> aeon-tld, how do I see bash history file? where do i find it?
[21:01] <spid3rnet> metasploit for pentration testing
[21:01] <jrib> !helpme | Fre
[21:01] <pragmaticenigma> Specialist_: I'm aware, I have had S2Ram work flawlessly and then Distro upgrade it all the sudden doesn't work
[21:01] <desturrr> would you please look at this error
[21:01] <desturrr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/589040/
[21:01] <benzaldehyde> spid3rnet: as in brute force password hacking?
[21:02] <desturrr> it is occuring while i try to read input.txt
[21:02] <Fre> wait, what does the !help me do?
[21:02] <petardjacic> hello
[21:02] <petardjacic> can someone PM me who can help me with AWK?
[21:02] <petardjacic> please i need some help :) thanks!
[21:02] <jrib> Fre: has ubottu send you the message he sent
[21:02] <spid3rnet> this andhacking sys and others
[21:02] <pragmaticenigma> petardjacic: As in the room, so others can benefit from your question and any resulting answers
[21:03] <petardjacic> ok thanks!
[21:03] <pragmaticenigma> petardjacic: Ask in the room, so others can benefit from your question and any resulting answers
[21:03] <petardjacic> i have a db file that is like a table has columns and rows.. and one column is TAX and the rows are either y or n
[21:03] <desturrr> please, can you look at this error, i don't understand what the problem is
[21:03] <desturrr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/589040/
[21:03] <pragmaticenigma> !repeat | desturrr
[21:03] <petardjacic> i need to use an awk commmand to print the name of the fruit if it is y in taxable column
[21:04] <petardjacic> the tax column is $5
[21:04] <petardjacic> and name is $1
[21:04] <tm0> Hi, i installed the ATI prop. driver, and but Ubuntu isn't seeing it. Ubuntu sees it activated, but the device isn't being seen correctly
[21:04] <desturrr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/589040/ , i can not compile c++, it gives this error
[21:04] <pragmaticenigma> petardjacic: This isn't the place for help with homework
[21:04] <erUSUL> petardjacic: awk '$5 == y {print $1}'
[21:04] <petardjacic> so my awk command was awk'// $5=="y" {print $1}' db
[21:05] <atlus> anyone have a good suggestion for firewall on 10.10??
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> atlus: ufw or iptables
[21:05] <tm0> atlus, a router :P There is one in the repos
[21:05] <benzaldehyde> atlus: i do not know but i would be interested to known
[21:05] <DJones> !firewall | atlus
[21:05] <benzaldehyde> *know
[21:06] <atlus> i downloaded guarddog but it claims it cant find the firewall configuration
[21:06] <Fre> If I shutdown my ubuntu 10.10, sometimes it just says terminate proces [ok] and does nothing. Manual shutdown is then necesary. Other times it just shuts down in a few seconds. Also, when I started ubuntu a few minutes ago, it only showed my desktop without GNOME envoirment. Compiz effects didn't worked either. I used wubi to install ubuntu.
[21:06] <guntbert> desturrr: what are you trying to compile (and why? )
[21:06] <stroke> what was the command to see partitions and so on? fs?
[21:06] <pragmaticenigma> Fre: What is the system specs?
[21:07] <benzaldehyde> Fre: what is yourchosen file system
[21:07] <genii-around> novitololo: sudo fdisk -l
[21:07] <Fre> benzaldehyde: file system? what do you mean by that?
[21:07] <tm0> Hi, i installed the ATI prop. driver, and but Ubuntu isn't seeing it. Ubuntu sees it activated, but the device isn't being seen correctly by applications, for example i can't enable effects?
[21:08] <benzaldehyde> Fre: ext2, ext3, jfs, resierfs, jfs, etc. etc.
[21:08] <pragmaticenigma> tm0: what graphics card do you have?
[21:08] <Nisstyre> jfs ftw
[21:08] <Fre> benzaldehyde: lol I still don't know, I new with the whole linux thing.
[21:09] <hachre> I guess he made no choice
[21:09] <hachre> ;)
[21:09] <Fre> benzaldehyde: If you can tell how I find out?
[21:09] <benzaldehyde> Fre: in that case it's most likely ext4 with journaling
[21:09] <pragmaticenigma> Fre: what are the systems specs? (CPU, Graphics card, RAM, etc...)
[21:09] <benzaldehyde> Fre: scroll up to what genii-around just said
[21:10] <Fre> wait, I'll look at my specs
[21:10] <benzaldehyde> Fre: *page up
[21:10] <tm0> pramaticenigma i have a ATI card in my Acer Aspire timeline X 5820tg
[21:10] <pragmaticenigma> benzaldehyde: the problem is not his choosen file system and he already said he didn't configure it which means it;s liekly ext4
[21:11] <pragmaticenigma> tm0: What is the model of the ATI card... need more information
[21:11] <benzaldehyde> pragmaticenigma: was just completing the question with an answer out of curtesty
[21:11] <benzaldehyde> *curtesy
[21:11] <banished> I get heavy distortion when recording audio with some flash application, is there something I can do about that?
[21:11] <Fre> intel core 2 quad cpu q6600 @ 2.40ghz 4.00 gb (2.94 useable) 32 bit
[21:11] <tm0> pramaticenigma its an ati radeon hd 6550m.
[21:12] <DETERMINOLOGY> fre you on the dell xps 420?
[21:12] <erUSUL> Fre: install the -pae kernel to use all your ram
[21:12] <Fre> nope
[21:12] <DETERMINOLOGY> o
[21:12] <banished> works fine if I use the sound recorder
[21:12] <Fre> packard bell
[21:12] <DETERMINOLOGY> tight specs tho
[21:14] <pragmaticenigma> tm0: if you are unable to enable effects it is because ubuntu has determined your system isn't powerful enough or able to run stabily with the effects enabled
[21:14] <pragmaticenigma> tm0: It is also known that the proprietary drivers are really buggy, I would recommend sticking to the community drivers
[21:14] <tm0> pramaticenigma you'd think the other way wouldn't you?
[21:15] <Fre> Would my problem have something to do with the fact that I'm running both windows 7 and ubuntu?
[21:15] <pragmaticenigma> tm0: not in my experience... anything proprietary in linux is usually bad because it doesn't account for the many different system configurations out there
[21:15] <Osmodivs> I am sorry guys, but if I can't change the Unity shell for Gnome, I am gonna have to stop using Ubuntu
[21:16] <tm0> pramaticenigma i'ved used the nvidia one for three years, and it was amazing, is the ATI one just undeveloped? I need 3d support :/
[21:16] <pragmaticenigma> Fre: Did you install using WUBI?
[21:16] <Fre> Yes, and I said that in my question
[21:16] <Fre> Is that a problem?
[21:16] <arand> Osmodivs: You can at the moment.
[21:16] <benzaldehyde> !WUBI
[21:17] <pragmaticenigma> tm0: The ATI one is only developed by ATI and they do not allow anyone outside of ATI contribute... nvidia on the other hand incorporates the community patches into theirs
[21:17] <Osmodivs> arand, but GNOME3 will be out there and we wont be able to use it
[21:17] <tm0> pramaticenigma that explains it.
[21:17] <tm0> pramaticenigma i assume to my luck the community driver only supports 2d?
[21:17] <hachre> Osmodivs: i agree
[21:17] <pragmaticenigma> Fre: WUBI has been known to have lots of problems...
[21:17] <shgr8rb> hay every buddy
[21:17] <Osmodivs> !gnome
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> tm0: Yes, as far as I know the community driver only supports 2d at this time
[21:18] <Osmodivs> DEFAULT!!
[21:18] <toto> hi guys,
[21:18] <Guest64632> i need advice: i don t have thermal paste (CPU-fan). Is it absolutely needed?
[21:18] <Fre> pragmaticenigma: So including my problem I assume. Better use 1 os?
[21:18] <Guest64632> can i do without it?
[21:18] <arand> Osmodivs: It will likely be possible to replace Unity.
[21:18] <tm0> pramaticenigma well thanks for all your help, i really appriceate it.
[21:18] <akribopo> akribopo
[21:18] <Fre> But I don't wan't to give up my windows games lol
[21:18] <shgr8rb> how to be a debugger ??
[21:19] <pragmaticenigma> Guest64632: Yes, the paste is necassary to conduct heat between the processor and the heat sink
[21:19] <mindmaster> Guest64632: yes it's absolutely needed
[21:19] <Osmodivs> arand,  With GNOME3 or 2.33?
[21:19] <ptoto> mindmaster, pragmaticenigma, ok thank you.
[21:19] <ptoto> so i ll wait, wisely
[21:19] <ptoto> :)
[21:19] <pragmaticenigma> ptoto: there wasn't any paste shipped with the heat sink?
[21:20] <ptoto> pragmaticenigma, ... the CPU came with the fan
[21:20] <ptoto> and no, nothing there
[21:20] <ptoto> i was a bit surprised too
[21:20] <Fre> So anyone had problems with WUBI? Is it that bad?
[21:20] <benzaldehyde> Fre: you've all ready got the disk cut in half why would you assume you'd lose the other half to linux?
[21:20] <pragmaticenigma> usually they supply it, is there anything on the bottom of the heat sink like a peel away sticker or anything?
[21:21] <genii-around> ptoto: Sometimes there is a little square of what looks like doublesided tape on bottom of heatsink, which is the factory equiv of paste
[21:21] <elkng> I have kubuntu-CD and ubuntu-DVD, and I want to use KDE, can I install kubuntu from kubuntu-CD and then install other packages from ubuntu-DVD, is it harmless?
[21:21] <ptoto> pragmaticenigma, nice point. let me have a look
[21:21] <arand> Osmodivs: 3 I was referring to, it will likely not be straightforward to do so in 11.04 (though for 2.32 it is), but in the future I assume you will be able to switch between g3 and unity as you would kde/gnome today
[21:21] <Fre> benzaldehyde: what do you mean exactly?
[21:21] <wonderworld> elkng: yes, you could do that, but why not install from the DVD?
[21:21] <pragmaticenigma> elkng: once you have installed your system you know longer should need the disks and using the package managers be able to install what software you need from the repos
[21:22] <ptoto> genii-around, actually there seems to be some grey thing...
[21:22] <pragmaticenigma> you no longer*
[21:22] <novitololo> say I have two disks in ReiserFS.  And I create a raid.  Can I change its filesystem to ext4 right?
[21:22] <ptoto> didn t notice
[21:22] <novitololo> *raid 0
[21:22] <hachre> ptoto: the thermal paste that ships with the fan is sometimes preapplied to the bottom of the heat sink already
[21:22] <pragmaticenigma> ptoto: sometimes the paste comes pre-applied to the bottom
[21:22] <hachre> ptoto: protected by a film or a casing
[21:22] <ptoto> hachre, ok, so it is there. i am stupid
[21:22] <ptoto> didn  t check it. thanks guys
[21:22] <benzaldehyde> pragmaticenigma: i bet thermal paste can be suplimated with one dollar brake grease packets from an auto store
[21:22] <hachre> ptoto: np ;)
[21:22] <Osmodivs> arand,  Yeah, I guess everything will be back yo normal once Canonical and Gnome  sit down and talk about it 7 months from now
[21:22] <wonderworld> novitololo: you could reformat the mounted raid as ext4
[21:23] <Rb_> hi
[21:23] <pragmaticenigma> benzaldehyde: I never tried that and honestly wouldn't recommend it
[21:23] <benzaldehyde> phoenixsampras: i've handled both materials and i could swear they are the same element
[21:23] <novitololo> ok
[21:24] <Rb_> teach me please ! how to use terminal!!??
[21:24] <k_89> just checkin... can u guys see this
[21:24] <pragmaticenigma> benzaldehyde: Grease is a lubricant and most lubricants break down when heat is applied (one of the reasons you change the oil in your car)
[21:24] <novitololo> yes k_89
[21:24] <k_89> novitololo,  thnx
[21:24] <elkng> wonderworld: I want to use KDE from kubuntu
[21:24] <hachre> Rb_: what do you mean
[21:25] <Fre> Rb_: that's not so simple to explain
[21:25] <pragmaticenigma> benzaldehyde: thermal paste has metal empregnated so it conducts the heat
[21:25] <wonderworld> novitololo: raid drives must be partitioned with a "Linux Raid" partition anyway. when mounted, you get a logical drive which can be formated any way you like
[21:25] <benzaldehyde> pragmaticenigma: brake grease goes inbetween a metal rotor and piston that stops a 2 ton vehicle
[21:25] <Fre> Rb_: try google perhaps?
[21:25] <benzaldehyde> pragmaticenigma: i have never heard of one needing to replace brake grease due to over heating
[21:26] <guntbert> !google | Fre
[21:26] <pragmaticenigma> benzaldehyde: you would if you did a lot of brake stands
[21:26] <Rb_> so what should i have to type in google for it ?
[21:26] <Fre> ubottu: ah sorry about that
[21:26] <hachre> lol
[21:26] <guntbert> Rb_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:27] <Fre> dammit
[21:27] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone tried frostwire ubuntu 10.10 x64?
[21:27] <Fre> I tried it on my 32 bit
[21:27] <benzaldehyde> pragmaticenigma: i bet it is the same stuff
[21:27] <Fre> Works good I guess
[21:27] <Rb_> thats what i m talking about !!
[21:28] <guntbert> !ot | benzaldehyde
[21:28] <thevishy> hi all
[21:28] <guntbert> Rb_: have fun :)
[21:28] <thevishy> how do I calculate the net usage on a particular day
[21:28] <thevishy> just upload
[21:29] <pragmaticenigma> benzaldehyde: Unless your willing to risk the money you have invested in your computer, I wouldn't recommend it... CPU ~200 US dollars, Brakes ~75 US dollars
[21:29] <guntbert> thevishy: about what are you talking? this is ubuntu support :)
[21:29] <thevishy> yeah in Ubuntu :)
[21:29] <benzaldehyde> pragmaticenigma: i think it's worth investigating, being that it is cheap and readily available
[21:29] <thevishy> I want to just find the amount of data I have used through console
[21:29] <Rb_> I like Ubuntu !!
[21:30] <thevishy> Rb_, everybody does
[21:30] <thevishy> :)
[21:30] <vanguard> is there some easy way to create a user with an encrypted homefolder when I did not select that at install time?
[21:30] <Fre> thevishy: unless it doesn't work
[21:30] <hachre> thevishy: you can use ifconfig to see the amount within the current uptime (I think) but I think you need additional tools to track them by day etc
[21:30] <wonderworld> i fear i might dislike Unity :(
[21:30] <Rb_> ok Allah Hafiz !
[21:30] <thevishy> my ISP says that I have uploaded a lot of data you know ...but with my ubuntu box I never downloaded uploaded . Is there a way to check the data transfer
[21:30] <CAP6513> !erai
[21:30] <benzaldehyde> pragmaticenigma: besides the guy wants to run it without anything
[21:30] <hachre> wonderworld: you arent alone
[21:31] <thevishy> I see ...
[21:31] <CAP6513> !habla
[21:31] <thevishy> its not logged somewhere ?
[21:31] <Logan_> CAP6513: Do you need help?
[21:31] <CAP6513> !exe
[21:31] <Exence>  me cambio de nick Ha  Exence
[21:31] <hachre> thevishy: not broken up by days etc at least, no
[21:31] <Exence> no
[21:31] <thevishy> oh
[21:31] <thevishy> like hachre , the net keeps track of logout time you know
[21:32] <Sik> So 1) I leave unchecked the checkbox that tells the Ubuntu installer to download files, it keeps trying to download the files ANYWAYS, 2) I manage to get it to skip those files, yet it still eventually crashes later with dpkg getting a bus I/O error :| 3) installer decides to continue, but without a bootloader at all, and the CD's "boot from first hard disk" option doesn't work on it either
[21:33] <thevishy> frE yeah but ok not much brokern boxes I think
[21:33] <MPX> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 beta and have updated it but I don't have a "main menu" icon in the upper left corner. In fact, it wasn't there to begin with when I installed it. Unity 2d has it however. Is there a way for me to get it back?
[21:33] <benzaldehyde> pragmaticenigma: both are silicone based
[21:34] <Sonne> MPX, you might want to ask that on #ubuntu+1
[21:34] <hachre> I don't think Unity is that bad, but I absolutely don't want the bar on the side for example... Also I can't seem to be able to move Icons around within it - I don't know if this is a bug or not... And I don't like that Unity doesn't use the top menubar as a global menu bar for the selected app...
[21:34] <MPX> Sonne:  Thank you.
[21:34] <wonderworld> hachre: is there still nautilus as desktop? when i tested it a while ago, i wasn't able to create folders, etc on the desktop
[21:35] <hachre> wonderworld: I haven't tested that
[21:36] <olze> can someone help me configuring the avm wlan stick n on ubuntu 10.10? ndiswrapper says driver installed and hardware present but there is no wlan device :(
[21:36] <wonderworld> and yes...the sidebar is ugly. if you have many apps oprn, you have to scroll around in it. i would never use it that way
[21:36] <mino> hi guys
[21:37] <mino> after a gdm update in 10.10 it now crashes with http://paste.pocoo.org/show/365023/
[21:38] <hihihi100> I need help with this tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589047/ I have pasted that into text editor, how do I execute it? I assume its via terminal
[21:38] <lukasz> próba
[21:38] <lukasz> witam wszystkich
[21:38] <guntbert> !pl | lukasz
[21:39] <hachre> hihihi100: open gnome-terminal, go to the location of this file, do "chmod u+x filename", then do ./filename
[21:40] <wonderworld> hihihi100: save the file on desktop. right click it, choose properties, make it executable. after that doubleclick it to run
[21:43] <Sik> So, the installer copies everything to the hard disk... but leaves it without a bootloader >_< Does anybody know how to make it bootable, since everything has been copied there already? :/
[21:44] <victorhugo289> Guys I'm having a problem with Firefox and the way it manages my bookmarks
[21:44] <victorhugo289> I'm always organizing them, and now they're a mess, why? because FIrefox messes with them all the time.
[21:44] <victorhugo289>  It changes their name, it sorts them they way it wants...
[21:45] <victorhugo289> I create folders to sort them, it dissapears them from those folders, and they appear in other folders
[21:45] <victorhugo289> They overwrite each other, it never warns me when I am bookmarking an already bookmarked site
[21:45] <iceroot> victorhugo289: #firefox
[21:45] <victorhugo289> I went to #FIREFOX and it I'm talking to myself in there.
[21:45] <victorhugo289> I use Ubuntu, organization is REALLY SLOW
[21:45] <victorhugo289> you can spend 3 hours in there
[21:45] <victorhugo289>  I hate that "Organize bookmark" dialog box, the way it copies, the way it moves, they way it does away with stuff
[21:45] <geoffmcc> victorhugo289: i have no problems like that with my bookmarks  but i use xmarks
[21:46] <victorhugo289> They don't even syncronize with Ubuntu 1.
[21:46] <iceroot> victorhugo289: go to the real mozilla-irc-network instead of freenode
[21:46] <victorhugo289> They never did.
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic | victorhugo289
[21:46] <victorhugo289> Ok, I was just asking, what other browser could I use??
[21:46] <hachre> i recommend chrome
[21:46] <victorhugo289> A suggestion.
[21:46] <hachre> chromium
[21:47] <pragmaticenigma> victorhugo289: you could try chrome or chromium
[21:47] <victorhugo289> Is Chromium from Google/
[21:47] <pragmaticenigma> victorhugo289: also you can try Opera
[21:47] <victorhugo289> ?
[21:47] <hihihi100> hachre, i tried your way, I get an empty file, named 10000
[21:47] <iceroot> victorhugo289: opera, chromium, konqueror, lynx, w3m
[21:47] <hachre> victorhugo289: yes
[21:47] <victorhugo289> ok
[21:47] <hachre> victorhugo289: more or less
[21:47] <pragmaticenigma> chromium is what google chrome is built from
[21:48] <hachre> hihihi100: you need to give your file a name in the editor you pasted it into
[21:48] <victorhugo289> ah, I think I'll install Goolge Chrome
[21:48] <victorhugo289> Definitely
[21:48] <guntbert> victorhugo289: for firefox support: #firefox on irc.mozilla.org   (not here on freenode)
[21:48] <hihihi100> hachre, i did, TerminalHIstory, and I followed your instructions, changing filename for TerminalHIstory
[21:48] <victorhugo289> Alright
[21:49] <hachre> hihihi100: and that created a file?
[21:49] <hachre> hihihi100: then thats what the script does, i didnt read it
[21:49] <hihihi100> hachre, yes, it did create a file, named 10000, where Im supossed to read all of my past commands (terminal history) but I see nothing
[21:50] <hachre> hihihi100: let me see that script again
[21:50] <hihihi100> http://paste.ubuntu.com/589047/
[21:50] <Guest61407> need help with wifi issue. could someone help me?
[21:51] <guntbert> !wifi | Guest61407
[21:51] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | Guest61407
[21:51] <hachre> hihihi100: this script removes all entries older than the last 10.000 lines from the history
[21:51] <hachre> hihihi100: it shouldnt create any files
[21:51] <qwebirc55366> اريد احد يتكلم عربى رجاءا
[21:52] <Logan_> !ar | qwebirc55366
[21:52] <Logan_> oops
[21:52] <hachre> hihihi100: or yea it does, it creates .bash_history.archive
[21:52] <Logan_> !arabic | qwebirc55366
[21:53] <Space_Cadet> Hello room :) I am running an update on a new Ubtunu 10.10 install and it keeps hanging at configuring linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic. In the update box it says Generating grub.cfg..............it has been that way for 30 minutes. Suggestions please?
[21:54] <Guest61407> ubotto: alright, thx. I installed the linux driver for my wireless controller realtek rtl8192e and now i can't detect any wireless networks. i'm using ubuntu 10.10, after uninstalling windows
[21:54] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: It can take a whole for that portion to finish,
[21:54] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: whole=while
[21:54] <hachre> hihihi100: if you just wanna see the history just open the file .bash_history in your home directory
[21:54] <Osmodivs> Hello. How do I change my Ubuntu login screen?
[21:55] <Space_Cadet> prag: how long could it take? My laptop install was super fast.....and it is way slower than the pc I am installing it on. Dual Core 3gb ram.
[21:55] <hachre> Space_Cadet: generating grub.cfg should take a few seconds
[21:55] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: Is this an 64bit install or 32bit?
[21:56] <Space_Cadet> prag: 32bit
[21:56] <majkel> majkel
[21:56] <fds2> I've dropped my HD into a different mainboard, but Ubuntu 10.10 stalled upon startup, so I'd like to wipe and reinstall (using 11.04 beta).  However, I'd like to copy /home from the system partition to another partition.  Booting from 11.04 LiveCD doesn't let me copy /home because I don't have read permissions.  Should I try from the CLI?  Been reading several websites about this procedure, still unsure of the steps.  Can anyone help?
[21:57] <hachre> fds2: Do you have something to copy the /home onto?
[21:57] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: is the computer still responsive to key presses (like cpas lock turning on and off)
[21:57] <hachre> fds2: is the other partition already created and working?
[21:57] <wonderworld> fds2: is the partition with your /home directory mounted already?
[21:58] <fds2> hachre: I've a partition ready to rec'v /home
[21:58] <Space_Cadet> the computer isn't locked, the update seems to me. I can do everything on the computer
[21:58] <Space_Cadet> me = be
[21:58] <hachre> fds2: so all you have to do is mount the old system partition, mount the partition where you wanna have it and do sudo cp /oldstuff/home /newstuff/ -Rpv
[21:59] <fds2> wonderworld: yes, target partition is mounted and readable
[21:59] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: something must have gone wrong during the update... I'm not sure what to do at that point
[21:59] <wonderworld> fds2: and the spurce partition? did you see the /home folder?
[21:59] <Space_Cadet> prag: ok thanks :)
[21:59] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: killing the update could have unfortunate consequences
[21:59] <fds2> wonderworld: yes, I see /home in source partition
[21:59] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: This isn't a WUBI install is it?
[22:00] <hachre> fds2: then what's the problem ;D
[22:00] <fds2> hachre: those switches will carry all permission over?
[22:00] <Space_Cadet> prag: could I not kill and attempt to retry?
[22:00] <wonderworld> fds2: ok. open up a terminal after booting from the life CD and try sudo nautilus. use that nautilus window to make the file operations
[22:00] <Space_Cadet> wubi?
[22:00] <hachre> fds2: -R is to also copy subdirectories, -p is for permissions and -v is to see each file that is being copied on the console
[22:00] <guntbert> fds2: don't sudo nautilus!!
[22:00] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: you can try to kill it and restart it... worst case when it boots you will have to boot into the previous kernel
[22:00] <pragmaticenigma> !wubi
[22:01] <wonderworld> guntbert: why not?
[22:01] <guntbert> wonderworld: please never recommend sudo for graphical apps
[22:01] <Space_Cadet> ahh ok thanks
[22:01] <mrdeb> do you reocmmend 10.10 or 10.04
[22:01] <wonderworld> lol
[22:01] <Axlin> isn't there a !gksudo trigger with an explanation?
[22:01] <guntbert> wonderworld: fds2 always use gksudo with graphical apps
[22:01] <Space_Cadet> prag: whats the command to kill the update process?
[22:02] <guntbert> !gksudo | wonderworld fds2
[22:02] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: are you running the update in terminal or graphical?
[22:02] <Moleboy_> Hey, does someone know a good program to burn an iso to a DVD?
[22:02] <Space_Cadet> graphical
[22:02] <wonderworld> fds2: k, you heared it. try "gksudo nautilus"
[22:02] <Moleboy_> I want to burn a couple of OS's to a DVD, and I've only ever done it in windows x.x how would I do it in ubuntu?
[22:03] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: that one I'm not sure... you could check out your process manager to see if you can spot it ther
[22:03] <Space_Cadet> prag: ok thanks
[22:03] <fds2> hachre: how do  I specify partitions from CLI?  /media/name?  or /mnt?
[22:03] <hachre> fds2: that depends on where it is mounted, you can check by running "mount"
[22:03] <Axlin> Moleboy_: right click the iso -> write to disc. or open up brasero and proceed from there
[22:04] <Moleboy_> Axlin: Thanks a ton, I'm new to Ubuntu =3 I appreciate it
[22:04] <Axlin> np :)
[22:04] <jtannenbaum> my external keeps unmounting by itself. /media/myExternalName becomes an empty folder.
[22:04] <jtannenbaum> I have had this problem for over a year at least
[22:04] <jtannenbaum> on every version of Ubuntu that I have had
[22:05] <pragmaticenigma> jtannenbaum: what is the model of the external drive?
[22:05] <Space_Cadet> prag: the process was update manager, just an fyi
[22:05] <jtannenbaum> pragmaticenigma: http://www.simpletech.com/products/storage/redrive
[22:05] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: thanks,  i usually run all my updates in the Command line
[22:05] <mc_teo> hey
[22:05] <zero_> I have xubuntu 10.10 and if I type str+alt+del the screensaver starts
[22:05] <Space_Cadet> prag: ya, I should have also. lesson learned
[22:05] <xguru> i install MS fonts, but its not showing in open office.  Any idea why?  (Ooo was closed during install and i opened Ooo after install)
[22:06] <fds2> hachre: ok.  I see "/dev/sda5 on media/ubuntu" (which is where /home is) and "/dev/sda8 in /media/general".  Do I use dev or media?  Does it matter?
[22:06] <pragmaticenigma> jtannenbaum: It's possible the drive has a power saving mode when it is not in use and causes ubuntu to think the drive has been removed from the system
[22:06] <mc_teo> i am trying to install ubuntu via wubi
[22:06] <zero_> how can i disable it or change the combination?
[22:06] <mc_teo> and i get an error, about permission denied?
[22:06] <jtannenbaum> pragmaticenigma: ah.. is there usually a way to stop that?
[22:06] <mc_teo> its windows xp
[22:06] <hachre> fds2: the first part is the device, you don't want that - you want the mount point, so you would now do "cp /media/ubuntu/home /media/general -Rpv"
[22:06] <pragmaticenigma> jtannenbaum: If there is, it's probably a windows program to do it with
[22:06] <mc_teo> i can see its a common error, by searching it on the internet
[22:07] <mc_teo> but i havent found any good conclusions
[22:07] <jeffreyf> Please clarify: ubuntu server vs ubuntu enterprise cloud
[22:07] <mc_teo> so anyone have a solution for it?
[22:08] <mc_teo> wow, a lot of traffic here
[22:08] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: did you hibernate windows before installing WUBI?
[22:08] <Axlin>  zero_ i'm pretty sure that keyboard shortcut is bound in system settings -> keyboard
[22:08] <mrdeb> mc_teo: you can try to install by bootin the usb disk
[22:08] <switch_> cjae: look left
[22:08] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: hibernate windows, i wouldnt think so
[22:09] <mc_teo> i dont really do that, since its a desktop
[22:09] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: what version of windows is installed?
[22:09] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: xp
[22:09] <mc_teo> latest sp
[22:09] <mc_teo> i just got the latest 10.10 .iso today
[22:09] <qwebirc40024> ياجماعه الغرفه العربية ليس بها أحد
[22:10] <hachre> !arabic | qwebirc40024
[22:10] <hachre> :D
[22:10] <Space_Cadet> prag: could he grub writing issue be caused by me editing it and added nomodeset?
[22:10] <mc_teo> have it burned to a cd, and i have it as .iso on the target machine
[22:10] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: what does the permission denied message specifically say? is there an error code or anything associated with it?
[22:11] <genii-around> jtannenbaum: You might want to disable usb power management by putting: usbcore.autosuspend=-1 into the /etc/sysctl.conf file
[22:11] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: well i get some errors about disk not present first
[22:11] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: It is possible, the update manager runs the dpkg configuartion which checks to see fi the settings file has been modified from it's original installed version
[22:11] <mc_teo> even before the wubi dialog comes up
[22:11] <jtannenbaum> genii-around: thanks, did that
[22:12] <Space_Cadet> prag:  I also installed nvidia restricted drivers
[22:12] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: do you have any disk encryption programs running?
[22:12] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: I doubt nvidia drivers would cause a problem
[22:12] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: nope
[22:12] <mc_teo> well i have daemon tools
[22:12] <jeffreyf> Please clarify: ubuntu server vs ubuntu enterprise cloud
[22:12] <mc_teo> but i really doubt it has anything to do with it
[22:12] <pragmaticenigma> jeffreyf: who are you asking?
[22:13] <Space_Cadet> prag: ok thanks. I am just getting back in to Ubuntu, been a few years since the last time i used. Kicking off the rust :P
[22:13] <mc_teo> well it could have that some anti-security on in the background
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: are you mounting the ISO with daemon tools?
[22:13] <jeffreyf> pragmaticenigma: anyone.
[22:13] <pragmaticenigma> jeffreyf: it completely depends on what you are going to use the computer for
[22:13] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: nope, just phyical disk
[22:13] <Omega> I closed my laptop's lid and it suspended, when I returned and moved the mouse, the gdm did not show up, I could still see my mouse though. Is there a way to unsuspend from the terminal? (I'm in a tty)
[22:14] <mc_teo> physical*
[22:14] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: You might want to just download the WUBI installer directly and not use the disk
[22:14] <jeffreyf> pragmaticenigma: Just playing around with VirtualBox.....I know what server can do, just not sure about cloud
[22:14] <hachre> Omega: try suspending again
[22:14] <hachre> Omega: and waking again
[22:15] <Omega> hachre: OK, I will try.
[22:15] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: ill try that
[22:15] <pragmaticenigma> jeffreyf: cloud is designed for cloud computing, Ubuntu offers a cloud storage and processing option... It's really not something an average user would need
[22:15] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: i have a bandwidth cap though, so i would like to use the .iso i have already downloaded, can I?
[22:16] <Hjalp> hi
[22:16] <Hjalp> can someone give me a hand please i have a problem with Ubuntu Netbook 10.4 and mobile broadband
[22:16] <jeffreyf> pragmaticenigma: Thought so....Similar to EC2 from what I read.....
[22:16] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: the iso may have a bad version of the WUBI installer
[22:16] <Hjalp> I have inserted my Mobile Boadband USB stick. Then I ricght clicked the network icon and chose "Edit Connections"  then i chose the "Mobiel Broadband" clicked "Add" and then went tthrough the wizard filling in all my information. When I am done and click Apply, then Close mymobile broadband conneciton does not appear in my Connections list when i click it in the top right so i cant connect : /
[22:16] <pragmaticenigma> jeffreyf: exactly
[22:17] <jeffreyf> pragmaticenigma: Thanks!
[22:18] <Hjalp> anyone know why my new connection i make in the network connections does not show when i go to "Edit COnnections" and "Mobile Broadband" tab and enter my details ?
[22:18] <pragmaticenigma> !repeat Hjalp
[22:18] <pragmaticenigma> !repeat | Hjalp
[22:19] <Hjalp> I have searched all night and cant find an answer to get my mobiel broadband to work thats why i came here now :(
[22:19] <andai> hi. I'm installing 10.10 over a really old install. I
[22:19] <Omega> hachre: Closing the lid doesn't cause it to suspend anymore.
[22:19] <pragmaticenigma> Hjalp: no one here at the moment has a solution, repeating your question is only going to cause you to be ignored
[22:20] <Hjalp> ok
[22:20] <andai> i've kept my home folder, and the installer created a new account with the same name as my main account on the old home folder (partition). is this okay?
[22:20] <hachre> Omega: bah, can't help you then sorry - have been away from ubuntu for too long ;)
[22:20] <Omega> hachre: Thanks for trying :)
[22:20] <pragmaticenigma> Omega: Suspending 2 ram is known to have problems... I would disable that option and either have it hibernate or only turn off the screen
[22:20] <hachre> Omega: maybe it only works when you have the GDM session focused at alt + F8 or F7
[22:20] <malvin> hello i need some help after i installed the ubuntu netbook 10.10 updates my touchpad stopt working, i have a acer aspire one the a110 model, can some one help me...?
[22:21] <Photocopy> Is there something I can do without globalmenu that lets me hide all menubars until alt is pressed or something of this sort?
[22:21] <Guest29890> guys, i need help again: i have to mount the computer. there s an AC97 cable and together an HD Audio one.
[22:21] <Guest29890> there s only one AUDIO in the mobo,
[22:21] <giiker> andai: did you do the install yurself?
[22:21] <ac7ss> Hjalp, What is the device you are using for mobile B-Band.
[22:21] <andai> giiker: yup, livecd
[22:21] <Omega> pragmaticenigma: I will do this then, if I can get in, or I just hard reboot.
[22:21] <Guest29890> and it s written: warning, do not insert the HD audio cable in the mobo without the HD function.
[22:21] <giiker> andai: did you choose to create a new home partition?
[22:21] <andai> no use old one
[22:21] <pragmaticenigma> Omega: I would recommend rebooting
[22:21] <Guest29890> what does that mean?
[22:22] <malvin> hello i need some help after i installed the ubuntu netbook 10.10 updates my touchpad stopt working, i have a acer aspire one the a110 model, can some one help me...?
[22:22] <giiker> andai: you should be ok then, every file should be in there
[22:22] <andai> =D
[22:22] <hachre> Omega: you can reboot on the CLI
[22:22] <andai> ty
[22:22] <Photocopy> i guess nobody knows..
[22:22] <hachre> Omega: better than just turning it off ;)
[22:22] <giiker> np
[22:22] <Guest29890> and it s written: warning, do not insert the HD audio cable in the mobo without the HD function. should i plug the AC97 cable or the mobo cable?
[22:22] <Guest29890> HD Audio cable?
[22:22] <r3m> giiker, thanks!
[22:23] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: "IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied"
[22:23] <toto> and it s written: warning, do not insert the HD audio cable in the mobo without the HD function. should i plug the AC97 cable or the HD Audio cable?
[22:23] <Hjalp> Is there anyone available who can help with Mobiel Broadband on 10.4 Netbook edition ?
[22:23] <malvin> hello i need some help after i installed the ubuntu netbook 10.10 updates my touchpad stopt working, i have a acer aspire one the a110 model, can some one help me...? ps im a rooky
[22:23] <r3m> hjalp be more precise
[22:23] <ac7ss> Hjalp, What is the device you are using for mobile B-Band.
[22:24] <Hjalp> im using a Telenor USB stick im not sure of the model though 1 sec
[22:24] <malvin> hello i need some help after i installed the ubuntu netbook 10.10 updates my touchpad stopt working, i have a acer aspire one the a110 model, can some one help me...? ps im a rooky
[22:24] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: you might have better luck reading up on partitioning the drive and installing ubuntu onto it's own partition
[22:24] <giiker> r3m: no problem
[22:24] <Hjalp> i think its t eh Huawei E1820
[22:25] <malvin> can some one help me.....................................................................................................................................................?
[22:25] <ac7ss> Hjalp, what is the fcc-ID on the stick
[22:25] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: yeah, i was nearly just going to concede to that, but i really need my windows parition to be kept safe
[22:25] <mc_teo> and i cant risk corrupting it now
[22:26] <leapy0yo> i type dshowserver -c CoreAVCDecoder.ax and it runs fine... but if I type dshowserver by itself, then dshowserver crashes via page fault... you guys don't get that right?
[22:26] <Hjalp> im not sure, that should be on the actual stick right ? or will i find that info on the computer it is connected to ?
[22:26] <raheela> hey
[22:26] <ac7ss> Hjalp, it wolud be on the stick
[22:26] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: I think it's safer to have the two on seperate partitions...
[22:27] <Space_Cadet> pragmaticenigma: How do I boot to CLI?
[22:27] <raheela> I have a question about Skype. I have Jolicloud OS. My problem is that the mic is not working. The mic works for everything else. Any fixes?
[22:28] <hachre> Space_Cadet: do you really need to boot to CLI or just access it?
[22:28] <raheela> I have a question about Skype. I have Jolicloud OS. My problem is that the mic is not working. The mic works for everything else. Any fixes?
[22:28] <Space_Cadet> pragmaticenigma: boot to it.......going to update my system before editing grub with nomodeset
[22:29] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: it must be something like the cd is bad or something
[22:29] <Hjalp> alls i can see is the name and model etcI have "Huawei Mobile Broadband" HSPA+ USB Slider" and "Model:E1820"
[22:29] <mc_teo> hmmm, now that i think of it, its a dvd
[22:29] <mc_teo> a dvd-r
[22:29] <raheela> I have a question about Skype. I have Jolicloud OS. My problem is that the mic is not working. The mic works for everything else. Any fixes?
[22:29] <ac7ss> Hjalp, Have you installled usb_modeswitch?
[22:29] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: there really isn't a good way to do that... unlike other distros, you may not have networking when booting to CLI
[22:29] <Pici> raheela: We don't support Jolicloud here, please use their support.
[22:29] <raheela> jolicloud told me to come here
[22:30] <hachre> lol
[22:30] <Hjalp> no but thats the problem i cant becuase i only have Mobiel broadband so i cant get online with linux i am using windows with the mobile broadband to talk to you now
[22:30] <Space_Cadet> hachre: Ihachre typo'd mean to respond to you. :)
[22:30] <Hjalp> wouldnt 10.4 have usbmodeswitch already installed ?
[22:30] <pragmaticenigma> Space_Cadet: you can try booting to recovery mode
[22:31] <Space_Cadet> my problem is, if I do not add nomodeset my monitor goes to sleep on boot. But then it works fine after I install nvidia restricted drivers
[22:31] <Hjalp> i could maybe download it from a website and move it across with my memory stick and install though ?
[22:31] <hachre> Space_Cadet: you can add that option manually each time while booting grub
[22:31] <hachre> Space_Cadet: to get into a useable system where you can edit it
[22:31] <ac7ss> Hjalp, that would be the way I would do it. I was looking for the .deb
[22:32] <que> Guys i am having a serious issue with my x server
[22:32] <hachre> Space_Cadet: when grub shows up counting down, hit e and add nomodeset at the end ofthe line
[22:32] <Space_Cadet> hachre: do I still hold shift to get to that part?
[22:32] <hachre> Space_Cadet: then enter once or twice to start booting
[22:32] <Hjalp> ohh ok, thank you :)
[22:32] <que> its totally stuck in 640x480 resolution, and no matter if i edit xorg.conf, save, etc, it doesnt change the resolution
[22:32] <hachre> Space_Cadet: and it will have the kernel parameter set for that one boot
[22:32] <mc_teo> pragmaticenigma: can i just boot to dvd and use gpart?
[22:32] <Space_Cadet> hachre: ahh ok many thanks
[22:33] <ac7ss> Hjalp, It isn't installed on my 10.10 laptop....
[22:33] <pragmaticenigma> mc_teo: You can boot using the DVD, it will give you the option to specify partitions before you install, just make sure you give both OS's ample room on the harddrive
[22:33] <hachre> Space_Cadet: np :)
[22:33] <que> and of course, i've tried saving it under sudo, without, and all manners of using root and normal user account.  i've tried different ubuntu programs to try to force it even, and had to eventually uninstall those, which didnt work
[22:33] <que> its totally stuck in 640x480 resolution, and no matter if i edit xorg.conf, save, etc, it doesnt change the resolution
[22:33] <Hjalp> oh :s
[22:34] <que> its being a fucking prick today
[22:34] <que> stuck
[22:34] <que> excuse my language.
[22:34] <ac7ss> Hjalp, http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/usb-modeswitch/usb-modeswitch_1.1.7-1_i386.deb
[22:34] <que> :/
[22:34] <Hjalp> thanks :) so if i install this it should work ?
[22:35] <ac7ss> Hjalp, It has been sucsessful for others.
[22:35] <que> i have a 1920x1080 monitor lcd 23' inch corner to corner
[22:35] <que> and a geforce 460GTX
[22:35] <fds2> hachre: some of the files returned "cp: cannot access '<path><filename>: permission denied".  From what I can tell onscreen, it looks like they're all . (hidden) files
[22:35] <Hjalp> ok thanks :) ill try it now
[22:36] <hachre> fds2: did you do the cp as root?
[22:36] <Photocopy> I need a way to hide all menubars on gtk apps. Globalmenu is not an option because I am not using gnome-panel.
[22:36] <dios_mio> fds2, try copying with sudo
[22:36] <que> can anyone help me?
[22:36] <Jolz> hi
[22:36] <hachre> fds2: you should redo it as root, sorry forgot to mention that again at the end
[22:37] <hachre> fds2: with sudo
[22:37] <genii-around> que: I would suggest to follow the instructions posted here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[22:37] <Hjalp> I get "ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: usb-modeswitch-data (>= 20110227-^~~)"
[22:37] <dios_mio> Hjalp... time to go back to windowz then :P
[22:38] <Hjalp> i dont like windows when i could use linux :(
[22:38] <Jolz> i'm having difficulties with some file permissions. world should have no permissions, group should be allowed to read and owner to read/write.
[22:38] <ac7ss> Hjalp, Let me get the other package...
[22:38] <rolandixor> try askubuntu.com :)
[22:39] <Hjalp> ok, thanks
[22:39] <hachre> Jolz: use the nice chmod syntax like this chmod u=rw,g=r,o-rwx somedirectory -R
[22:39] <Jolz> but i must be missing something, as it doesn't work
[22:39] <Jolz> http://pastebin.com/WxMhZNY4
[22:39] <ac7ss> Hjalp, http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/usb-modeswitch-data/usb-modeswitch-data_20110227-2_all.deb
[22:39] <Hjalp> thanks :)
[22:40] <Moleboy> Guys, I'm having problems with Brasero Burning Disc thing.
[22:40] <Jolz> i used chmod 0640 , should be the same?
[22:40] <hachre> Jolz: directories need +x
[22:40] <hachre> Jolz: so you can enter them
[22:40] <Moleboy> Can someone assist me in the workings of Brasero Disk Burner?
[22:40] <hachre> Jolz: your group flags are missing the x
[22:40] <Jolz> it thought that's for searching. didn't know that meant listing. i'll try that
[22:41] <hachre> Jolz: you need to think of it like execution, when you cd into a directory
[22:41] <Moleboy> Afrix, you here? you recommended brasero to me before.
[22:41] <Moleboy> Nevermind, got it.
[22:41] <hachre> Jolz: with a pure R you can ls things inside if you know their name but you can't list or cd into it
[22:41] <Hjalp> i get another error now :/ "ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: dpkg (>= <IP_ADDRESS>)"
[22:41] <Photocopy> Does anybody know a way to hide menubars in gtk apps without using globalmenu?
[22:41] <hachre> Jolz: x stands for execute
[22:41] <bernie> hello, can anyone explain how to make compiz the default window manager for a gnome session in ubuntu natty?
[22:42] <bernie> the custom pane for choosing the window manager is gone from the appearance settings...
[22:42] <Afrix> :O
[22:42] <bobmanuk> hi all, in desperate need of a bit of help, if anyone is around
[22:43] <hachre> bobmanuk: ask and maybe someone can help ;)
[22:43] <bernie> bobmanuk: you should state the nature of the problem if you want someone to help :)
[22:43] <Jolz> hachre, thanks. works now. i'll keep the execute-flag in mind with directories
[22:43] <bobmanuk> typing, sorry
[22:43] <hachre> Jolz: np :)
[22:43] <Pici> bernie : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Natty/11.04 support/discussion.
[22:44] <Hjalp> before we take that any further though, is the USB modeswitch definatly the reason why the network i created when i used "Edit Connections" and went to the broadband tab wont show on my desktop network manager to connect ?
[22:44] <Hjalp> because i have created the network it just wont display in my network manager for me to connect to
[22:44] <Photocopy> I need a way to rid my gtk apps of their menubars without using globalmenu. This seems to specific of a search to get results from google. anybody know?
[22:44] <ac7ss> Hjalp, is there any way to get the netbook on the net? (Wifi at a library?, copper wire) it would be much easier. (You could share the connection with another computer that is connected using a network cable (crossover))
[22:44] <Hjalp> *Mobile broadband tab sorry
[22:45] <Hjalp> i think i have a bog standard ethernet wire lying around i could connect them both through that ?
[22:45] <Hjalp> but right now there is nowhere else i can get online only this mobile broadband
[22:46] <ac7ss> Hjalp, It could be, it is a reported solution to a similar problem. (I have no experience with this device, just helping because I think I can.)
[22:46] <soreau> What is the deal with gedit putting the file path at the top of the document when printing? The file name is ok, but I don't need to see the path..
[22:46] <bobmanuk> i have a system that boots with "no os found" im on a live lubuntu CD and i want to try and re-install grub, i ran os-prober and it found all the OS' on my machine (lubuntu and windows 7) but when i try to update-grub i get "is /dev mounted" it isnt, but then every time i try to mount it, it says that /dev/sda is busy... anyone?
[22:46] <Ed-Home> Hi I am trying to run a test in Ubuntu terminal to figure out my router's setting for bytes mtu, I use this: ping -M do -s 1500 dattobackup.com    but then I have to go from 1500 to 1499 then 1488 and so on until I find what works.  Is there a way I can script a if/then loop for this to determine the end result?
[22:46] <leapy0yo> what is there besides gdebi to install deb packages?
[22:46] <genii-around> que: Please use the pastebin website and not private message me dozens of lines
[22:46] <ac7ss> Hjalp, you are switching between two netbooks, or re-booting to the other OS.
[22:46] <Hjalp> ok, thanks for your time though :) im seeing if i can conenct it to the windows computer to use the internet through there lol
[22:47] <edbian> leapy0yo: dpkg
[22:47] <Hjalp> i havbe a PC and a netbook running seperatly netbook is Ubuntu 104  Netbook and pc is windows 7
[22:47] <giiker> soreau: I think that's a header
[22:47] <que> genii-around, it would be great if you just helped me make this fix quick
[22:47] <phoenixsampras> is hibernation fixed on UBUNTU 11.04?
[22:48] <Hjalp> hooking them together through the ethernet cable didnt seem to work lol xD
[22:48] <ac7ss> Hjalp, if you have a crossover (a-b) cat-5 cable you should be able to connect without any trouble. (have the windows computer bridge the connection.)
[22:48] <Hjalp> ok ill try again
[22:48] <ac7ss> Hjalp, Do the lights on the socket light up when connected?
[22:48] <edbian> Ed-Home: i=1500; while [[$i > 0]]; do; ping -M do -s $i dattobackup.com; i=$i-1; done;
[22:49] <Ed-Home> thanks edbian!!
[22:49] <edbian> Ed-Home: haha, might take some debugging
[22:49] <Hjalp> on the ethernet socket ?
[22:49] <Hjalp> nope :( are they meant to ive never noticed them before cus of being at the back
[22:49] <ac7ss> Hjalp, Yes.
[22:49] <Ed-Home> edbian its: got an extra ; but ill find it
[22:49] <Hjalp> damn :(
[22:50] <Hjalp> so basically im screwed lol ?
[22:50] <edbian> Ed-Home: you can also just press enter instead of all the ;'s
[22:50] <Random832> iirc you don't need a ; after "do"
[22:50] <metrix> If I want to upgrade my pc from Lucid to Natty directly, can I just vi sources.list and %/lucid/natty/g ?
[22:50] <Random832> i know you don't for 'for'
[22:51] <hachre> bobmanuk: how are you trying to mount it?
[22:51] <ac7ss> Hjalp, you just need to crossover the network cable or run it through a switch/hub.
[22:51] <Random832> metrix: that's how debian used to do it back in the day; i assume the upgrade tool is there for a reason
[22:51] <ner0x> By default, can ubuntu play dvds? Or do I need libdvdcss or something similar?
[22:51] <Hjalp> i dont own any of that :(
[22:51] <Pici> metrix: See the topic in #ubuntu+1 for proper instructions for upgrading.
[22:51] <bobmanuk> i mkdir in /media then try tou mount /dev/sda /media/devicename
[22:51] <iceroot> ner0x: you need the lib
[22:51] <ac7ss> ner0x, You need to install the non-free decoding librarys.
[22:51] <bobmanuk> but it says device is busy
[22:52] <Random832> eh i generally just do a fresh reinstall when it's time to upgrade anyway
[22:52] <hachre> bobmanuk: are you doing this booted from the live cd?
[22:52] <ner0x> ice799: ac7ss: Any clue as to what the names are?
[22:52] <ac7ss> Hjalp, Find a library. likely the easiest way to do it. (or cruise around town looking for open hotspots.)
[22:52] <bobmanuk> @hachre i red i should mount with --bind but that doesnt work either
[22:52] <hachre> bobmanuk: isnt your /dev/sda partitioned?
[22:52] <metrix> hey Thank you radnom832 and pici. I appreciate the help!
[22:52] <hachre> bobmanuk: what system do you use to do this
[22:53] <bobmanuk> hachre: im currently on a live lubuntu CD
[22:53] <Hjalp> just cant understand why my connection i created in the network manager doesnt display on my taskbar on the network section to click connect/disconect etc :( i created the connection fine np
[22:53] <hachre> bobmanuk: ok, and the update-grub is being run directly in that ubuntu?
[22:53] <bobmanuk> its being run from the live cd i cant boot anything else
[22:53] <Hjalp> when i booted in live cd the connection showed in that area without me even having to create it, but when i installed and tried to use the mobiel broadband it just wont display :(
[22:53] <hachre> bobmanuk: and just opening a terminal and doing sudo update-grub doesnt work?
[22:54] <hachre> bobmanuk: I mean the live CD has a working /dev after all
[22:54] <Ed-Home> i=1500; while [[$i < 0]]; do ping -M do -s $i google.com; i=$i-1; done;
[22:54] <Ed-Home> [1500: command not found
[22:54] <Ed-Home> whats that mean?
[22:54] <Ed-Home> its not seeing the variable?
[22:54] <ac7ss> ner0x, libdvdread4
[22:54] <FloodBot1> Ed-Home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <bobmanuk> no i get an error saying error cannot find device for / is /dev mounted
[22:54] <ner0x> ac7ss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs Is this up to date?
[22:54] <Hjalp> thanks for your time anyway ac7ss
[22:54] <ac7ss> ner0x, LIkely.
[22:55] <hachre> bobmanuk: can you do sudo mount and paste it on paste.ubuntu.com please
[22:55] <ner0x> ac7ss: Appreciate the help.
[22:55] <edbian> Ed-Home: Let me do a better job of programming it and I'll get back to you in a second
[22:55] <Ed-Home> cool thanks edbian
[22:55] <eyesuck> hello, I am receiving an error while trying to run virtualenv with python 2.7, "could not import module _weakrefest"..., I see there was a fix for this but how do I install the fix? Kind of new to ubuntu/python etc - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-virtualenv/+changelog
[22:55] <ac7ss> Hjalp, have you tried to install the package from the live cd?
[22:56] <Hjalp> can i do that ?
[22:56] <Hjalp> if i can i havent tried and dont know how, since its a netbook i used a live USB i still have that ready btw
[22:56] <Hjalp> if i can do it from live USB
[22:56] <Guest84016> hi
[22:56] <Guest84016> how i can change my nick?
[22:56] <hachre> with /nick
[22:56] <Ed-Home> ./nick newnickhere
[22:56] <Logan_> !nick | Guest84016
[22:57] <Guest84016> ./nick dj.vickx
[22:57] <hachre> without the dot
[22:57] <ac7ss> without the .
[22:57] <bobmanuk> hachre: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589067/
[22:57] <Guest84016> ./nick djVickx
[22:57] <Guest84016> not working :(
[22:57] <hachre> bobmanuk: no, i wanna see just the "sudo mount" reply
[22:57] <altin> dont put the . before /
[22:57] <Hjalp> how can i install from the live cd ?
[22:57] <djVickx> got it :)
[22:57] <altin> good
[22:57] <ac7ss> without the . at the beginning. "/nick whatever"
[22:58] <bobmanuk> hachre:
[22:58] <djVickx> are there different chat rooms?
[22:58] <hachre> yes?
[22:58] <hachre> :D
[22:58] <bobmanuk> hachre: http://paste.ubuntu.com/589068/
[22:58] <bobmanuk> sorry
[22:58] <djVickx> sorry i am new to that
[22:59] <hachre> bobmanuk: ok im starting up a live cd myself now, gimme a sec
[22:59] <ac7ss> Hjalp, you will need to add the device as a repository in synaptic.
[22:59] <edbian> Ed-Home: see my private message?
[22:59] <leapy0yo> wine does not use nor support registrcodec anymore?
[22:59] <Hjalp> ok
[22:59] <bobmanuk> hachre: im gonna have to dash for a bit, ill leave this open, can you send me a pm if you find anything or have any advice?
[23:00] <hachre> bobmanuk:
[23:00] <hachre> ok
[23:00] <Hjalp> hmmi click add cd-rom, doesnt work it just says "please insert a disck in the drive" so i cant select the memory stick this is a netbook no cd drive :(
[23:00] <bobmanuk> hachre: thanks, really appreciate it
[23:01] <Hjalp> would i be able to do it throught the "APT line" ?
[23:01] <ac7ss> Hjalp, it's a little beyond me at the moment, (I am trying to run a railroad at the moment.)
[23:01] <Hjalp> lol ok
[23:02]  * ac7ss wasn't kidding.
[23:02] <Hjalp> :P
[23:03] <djVickx> www.youtube.com/user/thedjvicky1
[23:03] <Calif> t cones
[23:06] <cognac-gamma> hi if i connected to a wireless router with i wire why i cant access it through my browser?
[23:07] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, what do you mean connected with i wire?
[23:07] <giiker> sudo apt-get install pidgin
[23:07] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss: with an ethernet cable
[23:07] <giiker> oops wrong terminal, sorry
[23:07] <nickor> hi i was trying to diagnose physical drive issues going on my booklet laptop that has ubuntu
[23:07] <soreau> cognac-gamma: Try sudo dhclient eth0
[23:07] <nickor> does anyone know the terminal command?
[23:08] <hachre> nickor: badbocks -v /dev/sda
[23:08] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, Are you connected to the lan side and can you ping the router?
[23:08] <hachre> nickor: if the drive you wanna check is /dev/sda
[23:08] <nickor> i think thats the name yeah
[23:08] <uski> hi; i'm trying 10.10 and it appears that the regular xchat interface is no longer available in favor of a "xchat-gnome" package. How can I get the good old trusty xchat ?
[23:09] <Axlin> uski: sudo apt-get install xchat && sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome
[23:09] <soreau> !info xchat | uski
[23:09] <uski> hmmm i guess i couldn't find the xchat package because im using the live cd
[23:09] <uski> i was afraid it has been removed
[23:09] <soreau> uski: Yes you have to update your repos
[23:09] <uski> thanks :)
[23:09] <nickor> it says permission denied
[23:10] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss: with sudo dhclient eth0 i can see it in my terminsal, network manager  also pings iot just not my browser
[23:10] <hachre> nickor: do it with sudo in front
[23:10] <nickor> ok
[23:10] <nickor> checking now
[23:10] <nickor> thanks hachre
[23:11] <hachre> nickor: it will take a while, and it will tell you about every error it finds, it it runs through without saying anything about errors you're good
[23:11] <hachre> nickor: np
[23:11] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, Sounds like a router issue. have you tried "https://<IP_ADDRESS>"
[23:11] <nickor> cool i just want to find out this drives health im pretty sure its seen some drops and dings
[23:11] <Space_Cadet> hachre: I did a reinstall of the OS and ran updates from cli instead of wubi, finished without error! :)
[23:11] <five_two> !sh
[23:11] <hachre> Space_Cadet: grats! ;)
[23:12] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, (or whatever the class C is for it.)
[23:12] <five_two> oops
[23:12] <Space_Cadet> hachre: lol ty :P
[23:12] <five_two> !ssh
[23:12] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[23:13] <Shwaiil> Q: I've got a program running in wine, that's "notepad++" and the program crashed. I'm wondering how I can kill this program ? I had to restar the computer a few seconds ago, and it happened again. Any tip is appreciated ! Thanks for looking
[23:13] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss: nope, still no access through browser. I'm trying to use the wireless, only here not everywhere else it worked fine, so no driver issues or so
[23:13] <derek_> I'm running Ubuntu Server 10.10 at the house and need to connect it via L2TP to another server. Can someone point me in the right directions or provide a link to a wiki or something?
[23:13] <hachre> Shwaiil: the easiest way if you have only one wine program running is to go on the console and do killall wine
[23:14] <Shwaiil> hachre,  thanks for looking. I get the following msg: wine:no process found
[23:14] <asus> ??
[23:14] <djVickx> can someone tell me how i can earn money?
[23:14] <hachre> Shwaiil: and you still see it? or why do you think its still running
[23:14] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, If you can ping it, there is a connection. (thats what ping is for.) what is the address of the router that you are trying to hit. (likely a 192.168...)
[23:14] <Shwaiil> hachre,  yeah, it's still there
[23:15] <hachre> Shwaiil: I don't know ubuntu specifics, do a sudo ps aux | grep -i "wine" and put the result, if any on paste.ubuntu.com
[23:15] <djVickx> please help me :(
[23:15] <Shwaiil> hachre,  ok
[23:16] <Shwaiil> hachre,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/589072/ this is what I get
[23:16] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/589071/
[23:16] <hachre> Shwaiil: ok try killall wineserver then
[23:17] <fds2> hachre: I copied /home, then did diff -r between them.  Got a lot of "no such file or directory" errors...
[23:18] <djVickx> please any suggestion how i can earn money?
[23:18] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss and im trying to access his wireless network
[23:18] <hachre> fds2: what was the exact command you used?
[23:18] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss: and im trying to access his wireless network http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/589073/
[23:18] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, what is your ping for <IP_ADDRESS>?
[23:19] <fds2> hachre: sudo diff -/media/ubuntu/home /media/general/home
[23:19] <Amer> what is this?
[23:19] <hachre> fds2: no i mean to cp
[23:19] <mindmaster> djVickx: the first secret to earning money is not being a douche bag, then.. and only then can you earn money.. but then you could earn money doing anything
[23:20] <hachre> fds2: sudo cp /media/ubuntu/home /media/general -Rpv?
[23:20] <Pici> !ot | djVickx
[23:20] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/589075/ and still goes on
[23:20] <Space_Cadet> hachre: whats the syntax to install any updates? sudo apt-get ?
[23:20] <yayoj1> be careful with what you type on here.  everything is visible by more than 1000 people
[23:21] <hachre> Space_Cadet: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:21] <zvacet> Space_Cadet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:22] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, (Please put a space before the pastbin address. makes it easier.) You cannot connect with "http://<IP_ADDRESS>"
[23:22] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss: well this was a ping from terminal through wired
[23:22] <Space_Cadet> hachre: ty.......turns out it didn't upgrade kernal on last upgrade. hoping this isn't the part that hangs.
[23:22] <fds2> hachre: yes
[23:22] <ac7ss> can you ping the outside world? (google.com)
[23:22] <hachre> fds2: very odd, that shouldn't happen
[23:22] <hachre> fds2: are you sure the destination has space left?
[23:23] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, I guess that was a dumb question, you are using that computer right?
[23:24] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss: yes now plugged, but wanna use the wireless
[23:24] <zvacet> Space_Cadet : witch kernel do you use type uname -r    to find out
[23:24] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, Many routers can lock the control panel to only access from the wired side.
[23:24] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, you don't get any connection with wireless?
[23:25] <snake_> how can I use ssh with x11 (like vnc)
[23:25] <ac7ss> cognac-gamma, are you using the proper encryption key? that is a secure wireless node.
[23:25] <tbruff13> where can i find a repository for Libreoffice in ubuntu for 64 bit users im using 10.10
[23:25] <Space_Cadet> zvacet: 2.6.35-22-generic.......just updated to 35-28
[23:25] <runawayhacker> sup? I added the backtrack archive repos and was wondering is there was a package that will install the standard backtrack tools
[23:25] <Pici> runawayhacker: Ask backtrack support: #backtrack-linux
[23:26] <Axlin> tbruff13: ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[23:26] <runawayhacker> those are caled...? metapackages I think?
[23:26] <zvacet> Space_Cadet: that is latest in repos
[23:26] <efesto> hello, good night, one question/problem, i'm trying to launch a little script to disable the graphic card, to can work with itel card, it works without problem, but i have to launch it as root, any "way" to launch it in "easy way"?
[23:26] <Pici> runawayhacker: We don't support backtrack here.
[23:26] <fds2> hachre: 20gb free.   Does filesystem type matter?  Src = ext4, dest = ntfs
[23:26] <tbruff13> Axlin, just enter this into the other sources box
[23:26] <r3m> meta package is a package of package
[23:26] <runawayhacker> Pici: backtrack channel was down. it is #backtrack-linux, right?
[23:26] <hachre> fds2: oh yes it does
[23:26] <snake_> runawayhacker, dude, you just answered my life problems (not really, but I've wanted to know how to get backtrack on ubuntu for a while)
[23:27] <hachre> fds2: NTFS doesnt support several unix things, you cant securely copy it on there like that
[23:27] <hachre> fds2: i recommend using tar to create an archive of it
[23:27] <cognac-gamma> ac7ss: i think so, all other win machines using it in the flat with the same..
[23:27] <hachre> fds2: you can store the archive on the ntfs
[23:27] <Pici> runawayhacker: A channel can't be 'down'.  You need to register to talk there.