[03:04] <lgc> linner, I have a Dell Inspiron 6000.
[03:04] <linner> lgc:  have you been here:  http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[03:04] <lgc> linner, no. What's there to see?
[03:04] <bimberi> nixiac: you too :)
[03:04] <linner> lgc:  here's another one specific for your laptop:  http://clydefrog.plus.com/~rob/inspiron6000.php
[03:05] <Spermite>  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found any ideas how i fix this
[03:05] <evian> crimsun, it isn't working in skype yet, but maybe it is close. but unfortunately it is time for me to have my weekly skype chat with my sister, so I will have to reboot into windows for that. Thanks for your help, maybe I'll catch you later.
[03:05] <Fitzsimmons> if I install from the preview release will it just come up to date with the stable release via apt when stable uh... goes stable?
[03:05] <lgc> linner, I'm looking at it. Interesting...
[03:05] <linner> lgc:  yeah there are several entries for your model
[03:06] <nixiac> linner: I thought that the VESA driver is the OLDER video standard, and actully, if I want really good resolution, etc. from a Linux listed peice of video hardware, then, I should use the driver for that piece of listed hardware... such as an Nvidia card driver, instead of the VESA driver, but, mayhap some Xpert can chime in?
[03:06] <bimberi> Fitzsimmons: yes
[03:07] <fmasi> how do i instal ooo 1.9.130 ?? in the reps i found only 1.9.73
[03:07] <linner> nixiac:  I have a very, very new laptop and my particular card.. the ati 200m, can't run anything including a radeon driver... it has to use the VESA
[03:07] <thread> crimsun: Linux thread 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Sep 26 23:17:39 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:07] <cevizoglu> fmasi, very carefully
[03:08] <linner> nixiac:  it's not perfect... such as I can't standby or hibernate with out serious problems... but crap, as long as I can run linux instead of windows I'm a happy camper
[03:08] <Hydrogen> do I need to do any special magic to get a xorg display on :2?
[03:08] <fmasi> cevizoglu what do you mean by very carefully
[03:08] <nixiac> bimberi: FreeBSD, Caldera, Storm Linux, and Red Hat 5.1, in 1997... when the Evil Empire strated to flunk out on us... and we started to gather together those 'curbside donations' and cast-offs...
[03:08] <linner> nixiac:  i just need my wireless card to work so that i can work remotely at my client sitesw
[03:08] <linner> sites
[03:08] <epiloc> where is the syslog for DCHP3 ?
[03:09] <haja> How can I install True Type Fonts in Ubuntu?
[03:09] <crimsun> epiloc, /var/log/daemon.log
[03:09] <crimsun> haja, enable multiverse and install msttcorefonts
[03:09] <haja> thanks
[03:09] <crimsun> thread, post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:09] <cevizoglu> fmasi, hard to explain
[03:09] <linner> nixiac:  that's why I was asking for your help in getting it up and running
[03:09] <bimberi> nixiac: :), that's a longer journey than mine - which started in about '99 - RH6
[03:09] <thread> crimsun: gladly
[03:09] <shawnz> does anyone have a moto4lin deb?
[03:09] <thread> crimsun: http://quicken.ath.cx/Xorg.0.log
[03:10] <fmasi> cevizoglu, is ther enny whay to instal in like i normly instal the 1.9.73 ????
[03:10] <linner> nixiac:  re: using the VESA driver, do you understand now why it works?
[03:10] <crimsun> thread, you're using the wrong Synaptics driver
[03:10] <nixiac> This has a nVidia M64, TNT2, RIVA, 32Mb ram, but, it IS a desktop cobbled together from salvage...  Unfortunately, the 'nVidia card' is actually a version built by Pine (which might have been a garage start-up, in Taiwan...
[03:11] <thread> crimsun: really??
[03:11] <bob832> hello everyone . . . just installed ubuntu today and must say that i like it
[03:11] <thread> crimsun: I thought there was only one
[03:11] <epiloc> crimsun: any ideas why i cant restart my dhcp server?
[03:11] <shawnz> bob832, yes, everyone always does
[03:11] <bimberi> bob832: good to hear :)
[03:11] <bimberi> read even :P
[03:11] <crimsun> thread, dpkg -l xorg-driver-synaptics|grep ^ii
[03:11] <linner> nixiac:  right on... and because it's a desktop already it's an easier workaround :)
[03:11] <nixiac> linner: yeah, been there. VESA is great for my servers, or, when I don't really know what it is, and the installer selects it forme... anything to get up!
[03:11] <thread> crimsun: ii  xorg-driver-synaptics 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
[03:11] <linner> nixiac:  exactly dude!
[03:12] <dave> bob832: installed it a week ago, its great :)
[03:12] <cevizoglu> fmasi, I'm not experienced enough to answer you on that one, so I won't give you bad advice
[03:12] <crimsun> thread, and I presume you have Load "synaptics" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:12] <nixiac> Gads!  I gotta drink O'Douls, (non-alcoholic- just turned diabetic...)
[03:12] <bob832> quick question though  :)   is it possible to change it so that the master volumn control up by the clock controls the PCM volumn?
[03:12] <crimsun> thread, dpkg seems to be saying the right thing
[03:13] <fmasi> cevizoglu , whith ooo do you have ?
[03:13] <cevizoglu> cevizoglu, which what?
[03:13] <cevizoglu> oops
[03:13] <crimsun> bob832, right-click > Preferences
[03:13] <cevizoglu> s/cevizoglu/fmasi
[03:13] <bimberi> bob832: right-click on the control and select preferences
[03:13] <thread> crimsun: in the Modules section? I didn't have to do that before
[03:13] <crimsun> thread, just check if it's present
[03:13] <shawnz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2599 << Any idea what is going wrong there?
[03:13] <cafuego_> bob832: What happened to the other 830?
[03:13] <lgc> linner, it seems this guy tweaked everything to get his lap working. I'm lucky in that almost everything seems to work, except for the "eject" key and the multimedia buttons. But I don't think he addresses this. There's someoneelse who does, though.
[03:14] <thread> crimsun: no, I don't have a Load "synaptics"
[03:14] <crimsun> thread, (it should be)
[03:14] <bob832> that simple huh?  i thought i would be editing files and such
[03:14] <SuperLag> Any of you guys had issues just doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list and upgrading that way?
[03:14] <bob832> cafuego:  the number is the time when i first registered my irc nick  :-)
[03:14] <cevizoglu> fmasi, I recommend you find some info on how to create your own package from a source build, etc.
[03:15] <fmasi> cevizoglu ok
[03:15] <thread> crimsun: only the mouse device's section has Driver "synaptics"
[03:15] <cevizoglu> fmasi, if you can't find a .deb which works
[03:15] <cafuego_> bbo830: Thursday 01 January, 1970 10:13:52?
[03:15] <bob832> thanks for the help, that did it
[03:15] <crimsun> thread, hmm, that should suffice
[03:15] <thread> crimsun: what were you saying about a wrong driver?
[03:15] <linner> lgc: yeah.... there are a LOT of other posts for your model... check 'em out... there's bound to be a solution
[03:15] <thread> crimsun: there is only one synaptics driver
[03:16] <thread> crimsun: and it's not detecting my touchpad
[03:16] <lgc> linner, I hope so. But I still hope the issue gets solved once the official Breezy release is made.
[03:16] <bob832> i must say (not bashing here) but for the past several months i've been using fedora and i cannot believe how easy that was to change the volumn control
[03:16] <nixiac> On my third session of "Law and Order on the cable, here, and have three other computers to look at, so gotta go and play with them,, also have 15 to assemble, trying to finish my Beowulf Cluster... then, rewire the house for lthe new power drain..."
[03:17] <crimsun> thread, there's a separate, newer one that caused problems and was reverted.
[03:17] <lgc> linner, that is, if it is an issue, at all...
[03:17] <crimsun> thread, hence the package version
[03:17] <Earthen> I got a problem! I rebooted into windows (duel boot) just to get something (first time in weeks) and when i rebooted back into Ubuntu, now there is something using 100% of my CPU every 3-4 seconds for about a second! anyone have any idea's please
[03:17] <linner> lgc:  you're not the only one dude... I've got problems with my time clock, my wlan, and watching multimedia... so I'm lookin' for some serious resolution too
[03:17] <thread> crimsun: right... the name of the package I have says 'reverted' as you say
[03:17] <linner> lgc:  if you have it, it's an issue
[03:17] <epiloc> sweet!, dhcp finally workin!  on to a new error :(
[03:17] <cafuego_> Earthen: run 'top' to see what it is.
[03:17] <Earthen> cafuego, what is top
[03:18] <bimberi> bob832: i'd love to be able to assure that all tweaks are that easy :)
[03:18] <cafuego_> Earthen: Something you should run.
[03:18] <cafuego_> (See man top)
[03:18] <lgc> linner, but only if many have the same problem does the problem get addressed...
[03:18] <cevizoglu> #join mac
[03:18] <linner> lgc:  right now i see only one drawback to linux as opposed to windows... drivers.... that's it.......... the program subsitutions, imho, are superior to most of the win commercial ver.... and the stability without question is superior to all other OS's I've used
[03:18] <cevizoglu> oops
[03:18] <cafuego_> lgc: No, only if a bug is filed.
[03:18] <bob832> i sure there are more diffcult ones but i'm surprised how easy that one was   lol
[03:18] <nixiac> On my third session of "Law and Order on the cable, here, and have three other computers to look at, so gotta go and play with them,, also have 15 to assemble, trying to finish my Beowulf Cluster... then, rewire the house for lthe new power drain..."ps"
[03:18] <Earthen> cafuego, man i'm running system monitor and it looks like a heart beat monitor
[03:19] <linner> lgc:  not necessarily... i understand developers visit this channel too and note problems that have yet to be resolved...
[03:19] <nixiac> hey, try 'ps' besides "top"
[03:19] <linner> cafuego:  hello :)
[03:19] <locomorto> linner: that and games
[03:19] <cafuego_> bob832: The aim of Ubuntu is to make Linux a decent desktop system, for end users. So if there *is* anything that's not easy, it should be addressed and *made* easy.
[03:19] <locomorto> linner: there are a few good ones
[03:19] <bob832> i'm attempting to switch over to linux from windows and right now, i'm just trying out different "flavors" of linux
[03:19] <cafuego_> linner: morning
[03:19] <locomorto> linner: but overall theres not a huge selection
[03:19] <bob832> cafuego:  glad to hear it
[03:19] <hyperactivecrond> bob832, use ubuntu :)
[03:19] <linner> locomorto:  i'm not a gamer :(
[03:20] <lgc> linner, that's right. But my Win-doze purrs like a kitty, and my Linux has frozen my lap a few tens of times...
[03:20] <locomorto> linner: really?
[03:20] <locomorto> linner: then love linux
[03:20] <bob832> so far, i'm really loving it
[03:20] <cafuego_> bob832: SO if you ome across something that ought be easy when it's not, file a bug on the package :-)
[03:20] <locomorto> bob832: do what I do
[03:20] <bob832> and i have only had it on my systme for a few hours
[03:20] <locomorto> bob832: Burn the windows CDs and Box
[03:20] <Earthen> cafuego, it says Xorg using about 17% thats it
[03:20] <cevizoglu> lgc: do you mean windows makes your laptop too hot? lol
[03:20] <hyperactivecrond> bob832, http://eedok.voidofmind.com/linux/chooser.html
[03:20] <othernoob> cafuego_: is that what bug reports are there for these days?
[03:20] <lgc> cafuego, are you talking bugzilla?
[03:20] <cafuego_> bob832: Next month, when you can upgrade to breezy, you'll find a lot of additions that make life easier.
[03:20] <cafuego_> lgc: yep
[03:21] <shawnz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2599 << Any idea what is going wrong there?
[03:21] <othernoob> cafuego_: i'm sure people will appreciate bug reports on how people are too dumb to use something....
[03:21] <cafuego_> othernoob: Bugs can have a 'wishlist' status. If a developer isn't told what the user wants from their software, it will probably never get done, eh?
[03:21] <nixiac> bob832: Most of lus who aren't programmers, and prolly a few of them too, did what you are doing... but, with 387 Different Open Source distros monitored by Distrowatch.com, I found that it wasthree years before I got HERE, to ubuntu.
[03:22] <othernoob> cafuego_: that's what feedback is for, not bugreports..
[03:22] <cafuego_> othernoob: There is a difference between users being too dumb and software being too convoluted.
[03:22] <sagarp> when i use GDM, my scrollwheel/sidebuttons get confused...but when i do startx, the ywork fine...i tried with zaxismapping set to "4 5" and also with "6 7" and in GDM, they both dont work right
[03:22] <cafuego_> othernoob: No, that's what wishlist bugs are for.
[03:22] <bob832> hyperactivecrond:  went through the chooser, and ubtuntu came up first  lol
[03:22] <locomorto> shawnz: its looks like your using the Qt4 not Qt3 headers
[03:22] <crimsun> thread, sounds like you've been bitten by http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15182
[03:22] <donsmith> quick question
[03:22] <Earthen> cafuego, any more idea's
[03:22] <hyperactivecrond> bob832, it always does scroll down
[03:22] <lgc> cevizoglu, I haven't used my Win-doze that much. I only use it to watch the MediaPlayer...:) (On Linux I haven't been able. The Totem does't seem to work with anything)..
[03:22] <haja> After installing msttcorefonts, how can I add my own fonts? Do I just put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts?
[03:22] <bob832> oh
[03:22] <othernoob> cafuego_: either way, quite a way to tell a non-linux user what to do when he encounters problems..
[03:23] <cafuego_> Earthen: Nothing showed? Is there a cd or dvd in your drive?
[03:23] <donsmith> when I'm trying to update with synaptic it freezes on configuring packages, I think it's stuck on the x packages
[03:23] <bob832> ubtuntu is the second distro i've tried from the linux world
[03:23] <linner> locomorto:  yeah, I'm sorry I'm back... had a phone call
[03:23] <shawnz> locomorto, so how do I get it to work right is the question? =p
[03:23] <Earthen> cafuego_, no no cd's or dvd's
[03:23] <locomorto> cafuego_: sudo fdisk -l?
[03:23] <cevizoglu> lgc: you have to install a multitude of codecs until it works  :(
[03:23] <pschulz01> Greetings.. can anyone explain to me the best way of using a new version 'autoconf and friends under Ubuntu?
[03:23] <cafuego_> othernoob: No, that's not what it is about. The user can be helped here, but they can ALSO be told that if they'd like the software to work differnetly, they should tell the developer.
[03:23] <locomorto> shawnz: get rid of the Qt4-dev files and ensure you have the Qt3-devs
[03:23] <shawnz> ok
[03:23] <haja> After installing msttcorefonts, how can I add my own fonts? Do I just put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts?
[03:24] <malik> mh. i need gthread-2.0. cant find the corresponding package. any hints?
[03:24] <lgc> cevizoglu, isn't there an easier way?
[03:24] <cafuego_> haja: mkdir ~/.fonts; the copy the .ttf files to there.
[03:24] <linner> lgc:  I understand about the freezing... it took a solid 7 days for me to get ubuntu on my laptop.... and really, I was working like 16 hours a day on it... so you have to be determined and realize the FIXES ARE OUT THERE... so keep pluggin' away if you really want it.
[03:24] <Earthen> cafuego_, Xorg is going up and down from about 15% - 30% that about it
[03:24] <TedytuF> cada canal que abre, ta abrindo uma nova janela como conserto isso??
[03:24] <linner> cafuego:  i'm sure you suspected this... but my time is still off :(
[03:24] <cafuego_> haja: and run "xset fp rehash: to make the fonts available.
[03:24] <thread> crimsun: nice! ... he explains a solution, I'm gonna follow it right now and let you know how it goes
[03:24] <cafuego_> linner: Did you do the crontab thing?
[03:24] <The_Vox> haja: stick them in ~/.fonts and it'll work for that one user.
[03:24] <cevizoglu> lgc: it's not too hard, just a few searches and apt-gets
[03:24] <epiloc> crimsun: TFTP error - file not found
[03:24] <linner> cafuego:  crontab???
[03:25] <pschulz01> I'm looking am looking at writing some software and 'automake' is at version 1.4-p6. There is a version 1.9 available.
[03:25] <crimsun> epiloc, that means you didn't configure the pxe files correctly
[03:25] <donsmith> when I'm trying to update breezy with synaptic it freezes on configuring packages, I think it's stuck on the x packages
[03:25] <TedytuF> cada canal que abre, ta abrindo uma nova janela como conserto isso??
[03:25] <Earthen> cafuego_ is there a way to make it update faster
[03:25] <lgc> linner, I love Linux already.  The only other use for Win-doze I had is to write letters with Word (and that was before Open Office).
[03:25] <cafuego_> linner: Ok, remove ntp-simple. We'll add a call to 'ntpdate' in cron, so it runs every 30 minutes.
[03:25] <crimsun> pschulz01, so aptitude install automake1.9
[03:25] <cevizoglu> lgc, mplayer works better for avi's though IMO
[03:25] <os2mac> WHOOT wlann working
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> TedytuF, /join #ubuntu-es
[03:25] <pschulz01> OK.. done that..
[03:25] <linner> cafuego:  oh thank you!
[03:25] <cafuego_> Earthen: top can only do once a second, afaik.
[03:25] <locomorto> cevizoglu: vlc pwns mplayer
[03:25] <linner> lgc:  I'm so happy to hear that!
[03:25] <The_Vox> hyperactivecrond: that's not spanish, it's portuguese, I think :)
[03:25] <jrattner1> Why isnt Banshee available in hoary
[03:26] <os2mac> so is there a way to save my config in Ubuntu like in Knoppix.... to a thumb drive
[03:26] <cafuego_> linner: After you remove ntp-simple, run 'sudo crontab -e' - that will open up root's crontab file.
[03:26] <haja> thanks
[03:26] <linner> lgc:  I'm already installing Breezy on 4 other computers this week... It's an easy sell!
[03:26] <locomorto> lgc: have you tried openoffice 2?
[03:26] <nomasteryoda> linner, sweet
[03:26] <lgc> linner, I come from the pre-linux era.
[03:26] <locomorto> lgc: I find its really much much better then 1
[03:26] <hyperactivecrond> TedytuF, hablas inglais?
[03:26] <Earthen> cafuego_ ok dam what is doing it then, making my computer pause every few seconds even when i'm typing it stops
[03:26] <linner> cafuego:  forgive me... I don't know how to remove ntp-simple
[03:26] <linner> nomasteryoda:  :)  that's what I thought :)
[03:26] <cevizoglu> locomorto, vlc won't install on my ubuntu breezy ppc....
[03:26] <linner> lgc:  you do?
[03:26] <cafuego_> Earthen: I don't know.
[03:26] <lgc> locomorto, I haven't is the apt update available?
[03:26] <linner> lgc:  very, VERY cool :)
[03:27] <epiloc> crimsun: I configured them exactly how the wiki told me to
[03:27] <nomasteryoda> linner, i have breezy on 4 systems too
[03:27] <nomasteryoda> for me that is
[03:27] <cafuego_> linner: 'sudo apt-get remove --purge ntp-simple'  (or use synaptic)
[03:27] <linner> nomasteryoda:  these are for other people
[03:27] <linner> cafuego:  ok
[03:27] <nomasteryoda> and have helped get friends up with it too
[03:27] <pschulz01> crimsun: I now need to set some environment variables for 'autoreconf', but I still get erros with aclocal macros.
[03:27] <Earthen> cafuego_ this only happend after i boot into windows XP
[03:27] <othernoob> does anyone know of a mpc plugin for amarok?
[03:27] <os2mac> anyone....
[03:27] <cafuego_> Earthen: Is there anything in 'dmesg' ?
[03:27] <nomasteryoda> one has brand new laptop with the snd-isa-intel sound driver issue... halts on booting
[03:27] <os2mac> saving config? like on Knoppix?
[03:27] <crimsun> epiloc, you can't follow the wiki _exactly_
[03:27] <linner> cafuego:  ok it's done
[03:27] <os2mac> on the Ubuntu Live
[03:27] <crimsun> epiloc, a lot of things have changed
[03:28] <cafuego_> linner: Right, now 'sudo crontab -e'
[03:28] <linner> ok
[03:28] <crimsun> epiloc, that's why I said the basics on that wiki page are helpful, not the wiki page verbatim
[03:28] <epiloc> crimsun: oh, well what needs to change?  im so close...
[03:28] <linner> cafuego:  it's an empty file
[03:28] <bob832> got another question:  trying to mount a ntfs partition and when i did sudo mkdir /media/windows , i got this error:  sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 27 12:44:33 2005
[03:28] <bob832>      i recently changed the time in the clock, could that have something to do with it/
[03:28] <locomorto> lgc: apt update?
[03:28] <cafuego_> linner: And type the following, minus the quotes: "*/30 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org"
[03:28] <Jack_B> how should i go about converting wma's to mp3 on ubuntu ?
[03:28] <DonL> A simple apt-cache unmet has just shown me the pages of problems from my attempted Breezy update.
[03:28] <nomasteryoda> if developers could put the new alsa drivers or a workaround , many more people would be able to  use Ubuntu ..
[03:28] <Earthen> cafuego_ when i run that it says failed, port 3 disabled
[03:28] <linner> cafuego:  inside the empty file?
[03:28] <locomorto> lgc: It wont come in if your on hoary by just apt-get upgrade
[03:28] <lgc> locomorto, I mean an update through apt-get install.
[03:29] <crimsun> nomasteryoda, hmm?
[03:29] <cafuego_> linner: yep.
[03:29] <linner> cafuego:  done
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, there is a bug report on the site
[03:29] <locomorto> lgc: theres some in the hoary repos, but there very old
[03:29] <crimsun> nomasteryoda, we _can't_ just shove in newer ALSA drivers. I've been banging my head against it for weeks.
[03:29] <Jack_B> hey guys, how should i go about converting wma to mp3 on hoary?
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> lol
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> yea
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> i know
[03:29] <linner> cafuego:  may i change the 30 minutes to 5 minutes?  It seems to get VERY off after 30 minutes
[03:29] <os2mac> linner did you get it working?
[03:29] <cafuego_> linner: That will make the crond aemin run the ntpdate command every  x:00 and x:30 minutes.
[03:30] <cafuego_> linner: See how it runs first, then maybe try 15 or 10.
[03:30] <linner> cafuego:  ok
[03:30] <linner> cafuego:  will do
[03:30] <linner> os2mac:  which one?
[03:30] <linner> :)
[03:30] <crimsun> nomasteryoda, I have to forwardport a change applied against 1.0.9b against our kernel, which is 1.0.9+cvs
[03:30] <os2mac> wlan
[03:30] <Earthen> cafuego_, then i get a hole lot of hub 5-4:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 3 disabled
[03:30] <lgc> locomorto, it's about time OOo V2 is available through apt-get!
[03:30] <cafuego_> linner: Now run 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org' by hand.
[03:30] <linner> ok
[03:30] <nomasteryoda> oh... ic
[03:30] <cafuego_> Earthen: Any weird usb devices plugged in?
[03:30] <epiloc> crimsun: I understand... if you were starting off at that wiki, what would you do diferently?
[03:30] <linner> cafuego:  done
[03:31] <cafuego_> linner: Cross yer fingers and wait an hour ;-)
[03:31] <packman_e> hey anyone using uvuntu 5.10
[03:31] <linner> cafuego:  I spoke with Nalioth.   No bugfixes?
[03:31] <locomorto> unstable*
[03:31] <Earthen> cafuego_ I have a few USB things pluged in yes, mouse,joystick,Palm,sidewinder,and belcon speed pad
[03:32] <locomorto> only security fixes generally
[03:32] <thread> crimsun: that guy's solution worked like a charm. Thank you so much for finding that. I did a lot of surfing around the forums and such but didn't manage to fall upon that page. THANKS!
[03:32] <crimsun> thread, np
[03:32] <locomorto> bugfixes can create more bugs
[03:32] <Earthen> cafuego_ none of witch gave me problems before
[03:32] <megamanx2005> what new features is breezy badger going to have
[03:32] <crimsun> epiloc, which set of images are you using?
[03:32] <cafuego_> Earthen: yeah, it would seem odd that they could slow down the machine.
[03:32] <linner> os2mac:  I haven't gotten that far yet
[03:32] <locomorto> There is a guide on the forum how to get newer version of OO2
[03:32] <cafuego_> Earthen: Did you install updates (new kernel?) before booting windows?
[03:33] <os2mac> I got mine working just now ( I am on it right now) I may have a couple of tips....
[03:33] <linner> os2mac:  I didn't want to bombard the channel with too many of my problems since there are so may people in here who need help too.  Immediately, I needed to get my system clock running as nearly everything I do is time dependant.
[03:34] <Earthen> cafuego_ mmmm I'm not sure but i think that i may have did an update last night but i booted intolinux earler today and no problems
[03:34] <linner> os2mac:  oh dude.. do share ;)
[03:34] <DonL> crimsun, you've helped me lots of times before. My attempted upgrade to Breezy from Hoary was a disaster. Fortunately I have a spare drive and I installed Warty on it for now. Should I wait and every now and then apt-get update, and install, or wait for the real thing and just install?
[03:35] <os2mac> first of all you are using a broadcom wlan card right?
[03:35] <linner> os2mac:  absolutely
[03:35] <os2mac> what .inf file?
[03:35] <linner> let me go check
[03:35] <os2mac> name and size please
[03:35] <linner> hold on a sec os2mac
[03:35] <linner> os2mac:  size of what?
[03:35] <os2mac> the .inf file
[03:35] <linner> os2mac:  ok
[03:36] <linner> os2mac:  hold on just a sec
[03:36] <os2mac> the one I am using is bcmwl5.inf
[03:36] <crimsun> DonL, hmm? You installed Warty?
[03:36] <os2mac> and it's 17742
[03:36] <linner> os2mac:  I'm using bcmwl5.inf
[03:36] <DonL> crimsun, on another spare drive. Actually, I forgot how simple and good it works
[03:36] <linner> os2mac:  and it's 1.2mb
[03:37] <linner> os2mac:  big difference
[03:37] <DonL> crimsun, it's the only actual ubuntu cd I have
[03:37] <Earthen> cafuego_ I've seemed to have found it, I think it was 3ddesktop I killed it and it sems fine now, maybe something to do with my ATI drivers maybe
[03:37] <linner> os2mac:  where did you get your driver?
[03:37] <os2mac> what is the data on the file?
[03:37] <crimsun> DonL, you can dist-upgrade from Warty to Hoary at least
[03:37] <crimsun> DonL, how was the dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy a disaster?
[03:37] <DonL> crimsun, that's what I did before.
[03:38] <DonL> crimsun, pages of unmet dependencies
[03:38] <os2mac> I did a search on my harddrive for it. I am running the LIVE version of Ubuntu
[03:38] <DonL> No X
[03:38] <linner> os2mac:  you're going to have to be specific... i don't know how to obtain the data... do i justopen it with texteditor?
[03:38] <linner> os2mac:  ok.... that might make a difference
[03:38] <DonL> crimsun, I can see all my files but have no gui
[03:38] <linner> os2mac:  i have it INSTALLED
[03:39] <os2mac> what directory was it in?
[03:39] <tonkar> hi all! have you any idea why after an upgrade my xserver is desconfigured?
[03:39] <epiloc> tftpd file not found....
[03:39] <epiloc> im stuck
[03:39] <epiloc> :(
[03:39] <DonL> crimsun, seems the biggest culprit is libfooc0depending on libmp4v2-0, not installed
[03:40] <tonkar> and how to solve this problem? "no screen found" (an nvidia)
[03:40] <linner> os2mac:  in my home
[03:40] <os2mac> Linner what I am looking for is the file info.
[03:40] <Earthen> cafuego_ thanks for you help good night
[03:40] <os2mac> the filesize and date of the bcmwl5.inf file that you loaded into ndiskwrapper.
[03:40] <linner> os2mac: ok
[03:40] <tonkar> maybe an dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86?
[03:41] <os2mac> you should be able to get that by going to the directory that the file is located in and doing ls -al
[03:41] <linner> ok
[03:41] <linner> os2mac:  let me get terminal up
[03:42] <os2mac> I knew what the file name was when I attached it the first time... just didn't know which to pick... I have serveral versions of that file on my harddrive.
[03:42] <crimsun> DonL, X Window System doesn't work?
[03:42] <linner> os2mac:  this is what terminal says:  -rw-r--r--  1 kelley kelley 1206158 2004-02-07 15:56 /home/kelley/Downloads/bcmwl5.inf
[03:43] <os2mac> I just chose one after another until it worked.
[03:43] <DonL> crimsun, maybe the suggested repositories I copied weren't complete. Maybe I'm missing something. Do you know of another set of repositories? No. I can't get X to work
[03:43] <tonkar> i too
[03:43] <epiloc> can I set up a dhcp server and tftp server to handle pxe boot requests... can i give the machine a windows boot image?
[03:43] <linner> os2mac:  see i don't know that this doesn't work...
[03:43] <tonkar> me too :P
[03:43] <os2mac> that is a much newer file than mine...
[03:43] <DonL> crimsun, xinit fails
[03:43] <linner> os2mac:  it's a beta file
[03:43] <tonkar> that after an update
[03:43] <os2mac> I am using an older version of the file.
[03:43] <linner> os2mac:  tell me where to get what you have?
[03:44] <os2mac> -r--------  1 root root   17742 2003-06-13 21:37 bcmwl5.inf
[03:44] <linner> os2mac:  i see
[03:44] <linner> os2mac:  so where can i down load it?
[03:44] <crimsun> DonL, you shouldn't have to add any external repositories. What were you using that required external repos?
[03:44] <os2mac> this is a compaq correct?
[03:44] <linner> os2mac:  yes
[03:44] <os2mac> are you running the live version?
[03:45] <linner> no... it's installed
[03:45] <os2mac> of Ubuntu
[03:45] <os2mac> ahhh
[03:45] <linner> ubuntu yes
[03:45] <os2mac> lemme see if I can find a spot on the internet to get that file
[03:45] <linner> ok thank you so much
[03:45] <tonkar> wich is the command to reconfigure my xserver?
[03:46] <Rumrunner> does ubuntu support wpa2?
[03:46] <phlaegel> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:46] <DonL> crimsun, instead of changing "hoary" to "breezy" I copied a suggested repository and dumped my old one. I've done that before without problems
[03:46] <hyperactivecrond> how do you get rid of ubuntu-desktop and everything it provided when you install it?
[03:46] <hyperactivecrond> installed~
[03:46] <tonkar> thanks ;)
[03:48] <Rumrunner> does ubuntu support wpa2?
[03:48] <os2mac> http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf
[03:48] <os2mac> that is the same file size....
[03:48] <os2mac> try that one.
[03:49] <SuperLag> Any of you guys had issues just doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list and upgrading that way?
[03:49] <dooglus> SuperLag: I did
[03:49] <DonL> SuperLag, perhaps that works, my way (for me) didn't
[03:50] <os2mac> Is there anyway in Ubuntu Live to save the settings to a thumb drive for bootup later
[03:50] <dooglus> SuperLag: something about unterminated `s' command
[03:51] <atty> hi. i did open synaptic package manager and search for sun-j2re1.5
[03:51] <jmg> hey all
[03:51] <jmg> having a prob with lilo+devmapper
[03:51] <jmg> Ubuntu Wiki
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[03:51] <crimsun> DonL, it's best to dist-upgrade with _only_ the Ubuntu repos
[03:51] <jmg> Help
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[03:51] <atty> during i mark it inform not authenticated? should i proceed or need to do anything?
[03:51] <DonL> crimsun, I've got a functioning Warty system happening now which will serve me well for a few weeks. Maybe I'll just wait and see if things fix themselves.
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[03:52] <_jason> atty: whats the problem?
[03:52] <DonL> crimsun, yes. I know that now. That's what I've been sticking to for many months. There were some other things hanging around in my system before I knew that though
[03:52] <jmg> Title Search: "lilo"
[03:52] <atty> hi. i did open synaptic package manager and search for sun-j2re1.5
[03:53] <atty> during i mark it inform not authenticated? should i proceed or need to do anything?
[03:53] <atty> should i proceed?
[03:53] <crimsun> jmg, please don't flood
[03:53] <moparfan90> hello im trying to play thig game paintball an the mouse is all messed up. right away the mouse looks stright up and won   move down and its not inverte or anything????
[03:53] <_jason> atty: what repos are you using?
[03:53] <_jason> atty: it just means its not the official ubuntu repo
[03:53] <atty> i'm not sure... but i did follow ur instruction yesterday
[03:53] <jmg> thanks...
[03:53] <jmg> sorry about that breif disruption ladies and gentlemen
[03:53] <StR_breezy_kde35> Hi all
[03:53] <atty> so can i proceed _jason?
[03:54] <jmg> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2600
[03:54] <_jason> atty: yes, I am using that package right now
[03:54] <atty> ok
[03:54] <atty> i will do it now
[03:54] <atty> be right back
[03:54] <linner> os2mac:  ok i'm back... let me scroll up
[03:54] <epiloc> does anyone know how I can install windows xp on a machine via network from my ubuntu machine?
[03:55] <atty> how can we know either we are using Breezy or Hoary?
[03:55] <atty> what the different between Breezy & Hoary?
[03:56] <benplaut> !breezy
[03:56] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:56] <benplaut> bleh
[03:56] <linner> os2mac:  ok.... i have it saved now
[03:56] <spindley> epiloc, i don't think you can do a network install with windows
[03:56] <benplaut> !bad bot
[03:56] <ubotu> bad benplaut!
[03:56] <DonL> crimsun, the suggested repos I got were of Ubuntu's site, so I trust them.  I may use the time between now and the official release to get as much important stuff off my system as possible and then do a total re-install of Breezy.
[03:56] <jsubl2> atty: cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:56] <Sionide> atty
[03:56] <Sionide> Use the command:
[03:56] <Sionide> $cat /etc/issue
[03:57] <os2mac> also when you do the ndiswrapper -i and the modprob ndiswrapper do it as root.
[03:57] <atty> ok. i'm reading ubotu web given
[03:57] <linner> os2mac:  ok... what's the difference between sudo and su?
[03:58] <os2mac> good question ... I have never used sudo.... I am an old geek....
[03:58] <os2mac> I have always used su.
[03:58] <linner> os2mac:  ahhh :)
[03:58] <_jason> what does su do :o
[03:58] <linner> os2mac:  okey dokey ... I'll do what you say... :)
[03:58] <os2mac> switch user.
[03:58] <linner> _jason:  it gives you access to the root
[03:59] <_jason> oh I see
[03:59] <atty> still i dont understand. is it breezy more good that hoary?
[03:59] <_jason> linner: so just like root terminal?
[03:59] <os2mac> yes similiar
[03:59] <DonL> but then it reverts in case you forget to
[03:59] <linner> _jason:  I believe so
[03:59] <Hobbsee> atty: it's newer, but it's still in beta
[03:59] <spindley> i think sudo allows you maintain as root without actually setting a root password
[03:59] <linner> _jason:  it's a safety measure - what DonL said
[03:59] <misfit_toy> yay, latest update on breezy fixes beagle, this is cool stuff.
[03:59] <spindley> sort of..
[03:59] <atty> beta?? i think i'll stick to hoary
[03:59] <atty> :))
[04:00] <DonL> yes, linner, I like it for that
[04:00] <moparfan90> i am playing digital paintball and my mouse is messed up anyone know how i can ficx it??
[04:00] <linner> DonL:  me too :)
[04:00] <Hobbsee> atty: good idea - the best bet is to reinstall...i screwed my system yesterday with it
[04:00] <cafuego_> misfit_toy: When? my beagle is segfaulting all over the shop.
[04:00] <os2mac> spindley he is using an installed version.
[04:00] <atty> lol
[04:00] <spindley> oh
[04:00] <misfit_toy> cafuego, as of about an hour ago
[04:00] <cafuego_> Or dop i need to delete indexen?
[04:00] <os2mac> so he probably needs to set a root pwd
[04:00] <atty> i'm satisfied with ubuntu
[04:00] <linner> os2mac:  I'm a she... :)
[04:00] <atty> compare to fedora and suse
[04:00] <_jason> linner: so su uses the root password and won't work unless you set one?
[04:00] <atty> easy
[04:00] <atty> simple
[04:00] <os2mac> sorry....
[04:00] <os2mac> :(
[04:00] <Hobbsee> yay...another she!
[04:00] <linner> os2mac:  it's ok.. i get it all the time
[04:01] <Hobbsee> linner: yes, i'm not surprised
[04:01] <os2mac> my humble apologies....
[04:01] <os2mac> it was wrong for me to assume.
[04:01] <spindley> _jason, su means 'switch user'
[04:01] <linner> Hobbsee:  why do you say that?
[04:01] <linner> spindley:  i thought it meant "super user"
[04:01] <Hobbsee> linner: well there seem to be very few women on there, so i assume all the women get that
[04:01] <_jason> spindley:  su just prompts me for a password, which I am assuming is the root one since mine doesn't work like with sudo
[04:01] <linner> Hobbsee:  ahhh I see :)
[04:01] <Hobbsee> linner: i didnt mean that you sound male or anything :P
[04:01] <Hobbsee> linner: really i didnt lol
[04:01] <os2mac> nor did I...
[04:02] <spindley> linner, nah you can 'su <another_user>
[04:02] <spindley> '
[04:02] <linner> Hobbsee:  no, I didn't take it that way... just was curious :)
[04:02] <Hobbsee> although we dont really have female usernames
[04:02] <linner> spindley:  ahhh
[04:02] <_jason> spindley:  oh
[04:02] <spindley> 'su -' will switch to root
[04:02] <DonL> Well, it's been a pleasure. Must go for now. Thanks for all the help!
[04:02] <spindley> with the pass of course :)
[04:02] <linner> Hobbsee:  neither do i.. and i did that on purpose to be taken seriously :)
[04:02] <Hobbsee> linner: it's still early in the morning - not enough coke had yet
[04:02] <linner> Hobbsee:  where are you?
[04:02] <Mrono> hi
[04:02] <Hobbsee> linner: true, Australia
[04:03] <linner> Hobbsee:  oh okay :)
[04:03] <os2mac> how's it going Linner?
[04:03] <Mrono> anyone here who could help me with an install problem for 5.04
[04:03] <linner> os2mac:  i haven't done it yet... have a few PMs to attend to
[04:03] <linner> os2mac:  give me like 5 minutes.... is that ok?
[04:03] <os2mac> yeah no worries.. you want me to hang out and wait?
[04:03] <Mrono> ello?
[04:03] <misfit_toy> cafuego, now if only luminocity would be built quickly into breezy final I would shit a brick right here and now.
[04:04] <Hobbsee> hey Mrono - what's your question
[04:04] <linner> os2mac:  oh I certainly don't want to monopolize your time
[04:04] <Hobbsee> then we'll see if anyone can answer it
[04:04] <linner> os2mac:  if you can that would be awesome
[04:04] <Mrono> 1. it wont install the rest of the cd
[04:04] <childe> Hello.
[04:04] <Mrono> 2 it gets to the detecting cd rom and sits at 50%
[04:04] <os2mac> no worries.. I am happy to have it working on my own distro... .like I said I tried to mess with it for several hours last night and couldn't get it to work correctly...
[04:04] <childe> Does anybody know when can we get the latest version of Groff in Ubuntu?
[04:05] <os2mac> I am just happy to pass on the lessons learned.
[04:05] <os2mac> call it paying the debt.... you gave me the missing piece....
[04:05] <misfit_toy> oh, quick question, since I"m on 2.6.12-8-386
[04:05] <misfit_toy> , why don't they have the linux-source for this? only the generic 2.6.12 which won't let nvidia compile!?
[04:06] <Mrono> any ideas
[04:06] <linner> os2mac:  ok.... i'm done now with the PMs
[04:06] <Mrono> it did this to me on another machine
[04:06] <moparfan90> bye everyone
[04:06] <os2mac> ok
[04:06] <misfit_toy> damn cats
[04:07] <linner> os2mac:  so should i follow the same directions minus the step where it points to my jump drive?
[04:08] <os2mac> I did the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper but ran them as root.
[04:08] <os2mac> rather than sudo root
[04:08] <linner> os2mac:  by directions i mean these : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:08] <Mrono> anyone have any ideas
[04:08] <linner> os2mac:  ok
[04:08] <linner> os2mac:  right on
[04:08] <linner> os2mac:  i'll try it now
[04:09] <Hobbsee> Mrono: nope, unless the cd's not spinning quickly enough
[04:09] <os2mac> also I was actually in the directory where the file was located (not that it should make any difference.
[04:09] <Mrono> it installed stuf before it stopped at the cd
[04:09] <Mrono> and it'll run the live just fine
[04:09] <linner> os2mac:  right got that
[04:10] <gpd> is there a problem with the nvidia kernel module for breezy with 2.6.12-9?
[04:10] <cafuego_> gpd: Not as of a few minutes ago on AMD64. Howso?
[04:10] <misfit_toy> if anyone wants to turn an old webcam into a vid capture device for any reason...http://freshmeat.net/projects/motion/ works great
[04:10] <gpd> mine does not seem to recognize4 my card
[04:10] <Mrono> why doesnt the live cd mount existing file systems
[04:10] <spindley> there's a problem with that stupid nvidia kernel with every kernel with every distro
[04:10] <cafuego_> gpd: What card?
[04:11] <gpd> cafuego_: GeForce 6800
[04:11] <gpd> worked fine under hoary
[04:11] <cafuego_> gpd: Hmm, odd. No, not a clue.
[04:11] <RexKwonDo> I'm using the 6800 and mine works fine
[04:11] <Mrono> well
[04:11] <Mrono> i gtg
[04:11] <Mrono> i'll see you guys later
[04:12] <gpd> do you keep the module in /lib/modules/xxx/volitile?
[04:12] <linner> os2mac:  it says i have to remove the first file
[04:12] <linner> os2mac:  how do i do that?
[04:12] <os2mac> hold on a sec
[04:12] <linner> os2mac:  ok
[04:12] <bob2> I'd really really not mess in the volatile dir
[04:12] <bob2> at all, ever
[04:12] <gpd> well the nvidia module is installed in there by apt
[04:12] <brownie17> bob2, good on you
[04:12] <os2mac> ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf
[04:12] <brownie17> can someone tell me what is the name of a good vcd creation software?
[04:12] <linner> os2mac:  thank you
[04:13] <os2mac> no worries..
[04:13] <nomed> hi all
[04:13] <jmg> device-mapper ioctl cmd 12 failed: No such device or address
[04:13] <os2mac> for the record... if you run ndiswrapper with no switches it will tell you all that..
[04:13] <rejden> why there is difference on shipit.ubuntu.com and shipit.ubuntulinux.org?
[04:13] <nomed> are there the cloop sources in ubuntu?
[04:13] <bob2> jmg: er
[04:13] <bob2> jmg: pick one channel
[04:13] <os2mac> BRB
[04:14] <RexKwonDo> I have had some crashing with FireFox, so I'm testing out Epiphany.  Is there a way to have a static "search" bubble on the toolbars?
[04:14] <jmg> [pid 23930]  ioctl(4, DM_TABLE_STATUS, 0x807d378) = -1 ENXIO (No such device or address)
[04:14] <linner> os2mac:  ok.... i have another question for you when you return
[04:14] <brownie17> !logs
[04:14] <ubotu> Channel Logs are at: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[04:15] <nomed> i see cloop-utils .. but i don't see cloop-src .. what's wrong?
[04:15] <os2mac> back
[04:15] <bob2> rejden: that appears to be a bug
[04:16] <os2mac> mmm Earl Grey....
[04:16] <ocavid> i cannot play mp3 on ubuntu, what can i do?
[04:16] <linner> os2mac:  i love tea
[04:16] <cafuego_> !restrictedformats
[04:16] <bob2> ocavid: read the FAQ
[04:16] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:16] <lucky> hi.  I'm trying to install azureus. I follow the instructions on the wiki thing, but it gives me: E: Couldn't find package azureus
[04:16] <bob2> ocavid: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictFormats
[04:16] <reter> in ubuntu, the cd failed to upload all the database files. how can i do it manually?
[04:16] <linner> os2mac:  ok... so can you join #ubuntu-offtopic so i can past what it's tell me?
[04:17] <os2mac> I switch back and forth.. between coffee and tea... right now it's Earl Grey.
[04:17] <os2mac> yes hang on.
[04:17] <os2mac> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:17] <bob2> rejden: what does "failed to upload all the database" files mean?
[04:17] <rejden> bob2, cos i canceled my order cos i dunno if it's for 5.10 or 5.04
[04:17] <rejden> bob2, huh
[04:18] <reter> bob2: well the installation cd said "failed installation"
[04:18] <bob2> bah
[04:18] <rejden> bob2, oh :)
[04:18] <reter> bob2: the database files didnt go through and its not on machine. i have no gnome
[04:18] <reter> is there a way i can get all of it manually without the cd
[04:19] <bob2> reter: sounds like the CD is broken
[04:19] <reter> it installed the system
[04:19] <reter> ubuntu is running..i just have no desktop/gnome
[04:19] <jknife> did you do network?
[04:20] <bob2> it's impossible to help without more details
[04:20] <reter> what mode do you want?
[04:20] <reter> more
[04:20] <reter> i don't have gnome
[04:20] <reter> i want gnome and all the files that come with it
[04:20] <jknife> why i upgraded to breezy.. X had a few broken links i fixed them.. then my keyboard every time i pressed a key changed res.(cept the num pad)
[04:20] <ocavid> where i could find k3b-mp3 package?
[04:21] <bob2> "wanting gnome" is not a description of a problem
[04:21] <jknife> reter, apt-get update && apt-get install gnome gdm
[04:21] <bob2> it's impossible to tell if the problem is that X is misconfigured or if your CD was corrupt
[04:21] <brownie17> bob2, i checked the logs, i hadn't said a single thing for approx 2 hours when seveas banned me. could it have been an accident?
[04:22] <foo-bar-> anyone have any idea what might cause my installation of ubuntu to slow down drastically at ~6% complete (it seems like it hangs, but it does install packages every few minutes).  From 0% to 6% packages seem to be installed much faster
[04:22] <bob2> brownie17: I dunno, you'd have to ask Seveas
[04:22] <atty> _jason. after finish update java. should i restart my laptop?
[04:22] <gpd> it seems that there is a version conflict between nvidia kernel module 7174 and driver 7xxx
[04:22] <brownie17> bob2, i figured it out, i was stuffing artound with ubotu in another channel, and i forgot to erase what i put in there. but i didn't destroy anything worth being in there
[04:22] <brownie17> bob2, sorry
[04:23] <jknife> why i upgraded to breezy.. X had a few broken links i fixed them.. then my keyboard every time i pressed a key changed res.(cept the num pad)
[04:23] <ocavid> bob2: where i could find k3b-mp3 package?
[04:23] <packman_e> !faq
[04:23] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:23] <jknife> im using 5.04 now
[04:24] <packman_e> hello all
[04:24] <epiloc> im about to give up
[04:24] <epiloc> on this network boot install
[04:25] <jknife> epiloc, do cd install then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <Phily> hello all I need some help, I will to clean up deamons and services at startup I don't need cups lp and others how do I do this?
[04:25] <cafuego_> gpd: 7174 is a bit old, too.
[04:25] <Phily> Also I want to know how far I can go
[04:25] <Quinthius> Phily: check out rcconf
[04:25] <Phily> which process do kill
[04:25] <epiloc> jknife: i am trying to install ANY OS on my diskless laptop vai network
[04:25] <oblib> Question: when I boot up, Ubuntu does not mount my serial ata drive (sda1). I can mount it just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. Anyone know why?
[04:26] <Phily> jknife: diskless you mean network boot
[04:26] <Quinthius> oblib: is it set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab?
[04:26] <jknife> Phily, ???
[04:26] <oblib> no: /dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[04:26] <butcherbird> epiloc, no floppy, no cdrom, no usb?
[04:26] <epiloc> no nothing!
[04:26] <epiloc> its sooo bad
[04:26] <jknife> your fed
[04:27] <jknife> pull the hd.. install it on one pc and move it back
[04:27] <epiloc> ive never taken a hd out of a lappy
[04:27] <epiloc> dont i need a conversion drive?
[04:27] <epiloc> like 3.5" or something
[04:27] <Quinthius> epiloc: is there any OS on it right now?
[04:27] <epiloc> no
[04:27] <jknife> beats me.. im a desktop person
[04:28] <epiloc> it has pcmcia slots, but they are not picking up the pcmcia external cdrom
[04:28] <gpd> so i had installed the linux-restricted-xxx-nvidia... which was not required... removing fixed the problem
[04:28] <epiloc> i figured, i have to get an OS on there first, to install drivers... THEN the pcmcia will work
[04:28] <jknife> epiloc, is the bios set up correctly?
[04:29] <epiloc> yes, i have tried countless things in the bios
[04:29] <epiloc> 'pcmcia' doesnt appear once in the bios
[04:29] <epiloc> why is that?
[04:29] <oblib> any other ideas quin,
[04:29] <jknife> its gay?
[04:29] <oblib> Quinthius?
[04:29] <Phily> Quinthius: tks for rcconf, but is fetchmail required
[04:29] <ocavid> anyone pls help where i could download k3b-mp3
[04:30] <epiloc> jesus im about to rip my hair out
[04:30] <jknife> ocavid, d/l the source and build it yourself
[04:30] <epiloc> heh
[04:30] <ocavid> jknife ok where it is located?
[04:30] <jknife> and then build a pkg for everyone else
[04:30] <jknife> GOOGLE
[04:31] <jknife> (srry for caps)
[04:31] <Sionide> wow awesome
[04:31] <Sionide> the new add/remove progs in Breezy
[04:31] <Sionide> "I thought Synaptic was simple, but this really takes it to the next level. Want VLC? Click Sound & Video, More programs, and check the box next to VLC. Click Apply. Done."
[04:31] <Sionide> http://www.tectonic.co.za/viewr.php?id=611
[04:31] <ocavid> jknife ok i will try
[04:31] <jknife> or kde main site
[04:32] <Quinthius> oblib: i dont know what else to suggest, sorry :/
[04:33] <jknife> epiloc, i have no clue about your problem
[04:33] <Quinthius> Phily: fetchmail? i dont THINK so, but not sure...  i think it's recommended to leave postfix enabled though
[04:33] <epiloc> jknife: i think the answer lies in netbooting
[04:33] <epiloc> it has pxe enabled network card
[04:34] <jknife> ive never used netboot
[04:34] <Phily> Quinthius: do u know if rsync is used for anything specail
[04:34] <Phily> Quinthius: I don't use it
[04:34] <Knelix> Does anybody know how to take a screenshot in XFCE?
[04:34] <epiloc> i can set up the bios to boot off the network card but i not the cdrom drive :(
[04:35] <jknife> ask in #gentoo (im sure one of the 1000 ppl in there know)
[04:35] <dooglus> oblib: it's kind of cheating, but how about putting a 'mount' command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[04:36] <socomm> How would I make it so that I would not need to authenticate with my samba server?
[04:36] <bob2> Knelix: "import" from imagemagick
[04:36] <Phily> Knelix: use scrot command line tool
[04:37] <bob2> epiloc: google "pxe tftp ubuntu" +site:wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <jknife> the default servers are faster for me then the us servers
[04:37] <bob2> socomm: configure them not to use passwords
[04:37] <bob2> socomm: or setup kerberos
[04:37] <dooglus> bob2: what does "+" do in google queries?
[04:37] <bob2> jknife: archive.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com are the same machine in london
[04:37] <bob2> dooglus: logical AND
[04:37] <bob2> dooglus: guess it's not really needed
[04:37] <Phily> Knelix: scrot uses imlib2 very fast!
[04:37] <dooglus> bob2: google defaults to logical AND
[04:37] <skrewdriver> hey guys, trying to compile a driver (first attempt at compiling), can't get make to work. do I need to download any extra packages?
[04:38] <bob2> skrewdriver: when asking questions like that, you need to mention what driver it is, and also paste the error to #flood or the pastebin in the /topic
[04:38] <skrewdriver> error is: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[04:38] <epiloc> bob2, i have been following the wiki for the past 3 hours
[04:38] <skrewdriver> oops. sorry.
[04:38] <dooglus> bob2: aah...  " If a common word is essential to getting the results you want, you can include it by putting a "+" sign in front of it"
[04:38] <epiloc> bob2, something is not right :(
[04:39] <jknife> bob2, umm i get 30Kb from the having us and ~70/~100 without it
[04:39] <Knelix> bob2, Phily: Where the heck are those?
[04:39] <bob2> skrewdriver: and the driver is?
[04:39] <bob2> dooglus: ah, glad there's some justification for it ;)
[04:39] <Phily> Knelix: apt-get install scrot
[04:39] <bob2> epiloc: and the wiki page you are following is ...
[04:39] <noreen> gud day how should i install my lx-300+ on my ubuntu box? need help
[04:40] <jknife> how come fortune is edited?
[04:40] <bob2> Knelix: install the imagemagick package like you would any other
[04:40] <skrewdriver> bob2: driver is iburst-2.1.1
[04:40] <bob2> jknife: define "edited"
[04:40] <reter> in vi
[04:40] <Phily> Knelix: just type scrot form command line and you get a screenshot from your desktop into the current directory
[04:40] <packman_e> hello people
[04:40] <bob2> skrewdriver: sudo aptitude -y install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[04:40] <reter> vi, its suppose to be :wq  to save and leave right?
[04:40] <jknife> -o list is gone
[04:40] <packman_e> what is a good email client to use for ubuntu 5.04 please
[04:40] <epiloc> bob2, http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[04:40] <skrewdriver> bob2: thanks mate
[04:41] <jknife> packman_e,  thunderbird
[04:41] <reter> how can you just save in VI
[04:41] <epiloc> this is the biggest nightmare i have ever encountered
[04:41] <jknife> ???
[04:41] <bob2> jknife: if you say so; look at the output of "host us.archive.ubuntu.com and "host archive.ubuntu.com"
[04:41] <jknife> ohh lol
[04:41] <Knelix> Phily: Ah... installing...
[04:41] <bob2> epiloc: ignore that and do what I said
[04:41] <difeta> hey all! I've just installed breezy and none of the icons are showing up in nautilus. Any ideas?
[04:41] <packman_e> how about a news reader?
[04:41] <noreen> gud day how should i install my lx-300+ on my ubuntu box? need help
[04:41] <lastnode> anybody got their wifi working with intel pro 2200BG? im on a thinkpad r50e
[04:42] <jknife> bob2, i get no fortunes found
[04:42] <bob2> noreen: try phrasing your question better
[04:42] <Knelix> bob2: I just want to take a screen shot... sounds like imagemagick is a more complete/sophisticated app... I just wanna do something very simple.
[04:42] <bob2> noreen: e.g., what on earth is a "lx-300+"?
[04:42] <bob2> lastnode: lots of people have that working fine
[04:42] <bob2> Knelix: install it. run "import -root foo.png". all done.
[04:42] <hejux> help me !!! ubuntu 5.10 , i  cannt play *.rmvb *.avi *wmv etc.
[04:42] <Kyral> Is there an easy way to install the Debugging packages for all my packages?
[04:42] <bob2> hejux: a) don't be irritating
[04:42] <reter> ... /etc/apt/sources.list can't open file for writing
[04:42] <bob2> hejux: b) wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:43] <reter> how can i save what i editied here
[04:43] <bob2> reter: you need to run your editor with sudo
[04:43] <bob2> Kyral: no
[04:43] <jknife> well is there any USA mirrors around?
[04:43] <bob2> jknife: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:43] <cfh_dev> Is there somewhere Gnome keeps a list of programs that startup when Gnome starts?
[04:43] <Kyral> bob2: Remind me to do that when I do a clean server install of Breezy
[04:44] <bob2> cfh_dev: system -> preferences -> session
[04:44] <lastnode> bob2, does ubuntu auto detect or should i get the driver?
[04:44] <bob2> lastnode: it includes the driver
[04:44] <delltony> question, i just got a dell maxtor external harddrive and it has ntfs on it. is there a simple way in linux to make another partiton on it that windows AND linux can use?
[04:44] <cfh_dev> bob2, thanks
[04:44] <bob2> delltony: does it have free space?
[04:44] <hejux> thank you bob2 ^_^
[04:44] <delltony> yeah i just got it
[04:45] <delltony> 300gig
[04:45] <bob2> no, I mean, unallocated space
[04:45] <lastnode> bob2, sorry to be a numbnuts, but that means i can just install and do ifup wa0?
[04:45] <cfh_dev> On a default Hoary install, is there a way to remove Evolution without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[04:45] <bob2> or is it one 300GB NTFs partition?
[04:45] <delltony> one ntfs partition as far as i know
[04:45] <bob2> lastnode: that means you can install, then configure it to do whatever you want, yes
[04:45] <bob2> delltony: then you need parted or ntfsresize
[04:45] <delltony> i would assume anyway cause its right out of the box
[04:45] <skrewdriver> bob2: done that, still getting the same error
[04:45] <bob2> cfh_dev: no
[04:45] <bob2> skrewdriver: paste the whole error to #flood
[04:46] <Kyral> cfh_dev, Ubuntu-Desktop is a metapackage that basically does nothing
[04:46] <Kyral> its safe to remove
[04:46] <bob2> no, it's not
[04:46] <dooglus> delltony: you just got this drive, right?  so it's blank?
[04:46] <delltony> ok ill download parted and look at the manpages and come back if i have any questions thanks
[04:46] <bob2> unless you know what it's for
[04:46] <bob2> e.g. you will break upgrades by removing it
[04:46] <Kyral> bob2, Correction, until you Dist-Upgrade
[04:46] <cfh_dev> Kyral, so removing ubuntu-desktop shouldn't affect anything when I want to remove Evolution?
[04:46] <Kyral> yah
[04:46] <delltony> well dooglus yeah i just got it but the thing wanted to format the drive to ntfs for backup and i let it (windows software that is)
[04:46] <Kyral> but reinstall it before you make the jump to Breezy
[04:46] <dooglus> if you don't remove ubuntu-desktop, you can't remove a lot of the other crap that you don't need, can you?
[04:46] <bob2> cfh_dev: why do you want to remove evolution?
[04:47] <skrewdriver> bob2: okay, pasted
[04:47] <delltony> but i want to use it with linux as well since my primary os on my personal laptop is linux
[04:47] <Kyral> bob2, Maybe he doesn't like it?
[04:47] <cfh_dev> bob2, I prefer thunderbird if any local mail client
[04:47] <Kyral> I didn't like it for a long time
[04:47] <Kyral> Linux is about choices right?
[04:47] <delltony> i think parted might do the trick
[04:47] <bob2> skrewdriver: the output of "dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r) | tail -n1"?
[04:47] <cfh_dev> Kyral, that's the spirit   ;-)
[04:47] <dooglus> delltony: sounds like you want to delete the ntfs partition, then make some new partitions.  if you want both windows and linux to be able to write to the same partition, you're stuck with FAT32 unfortunately.
[04:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is meant by osx's "pdf based" quartz?  that sounds terribly cumbersome and slow.
[04:47] <bob2> Kyral: sure, but it only consumes some small amount of disk
[04:48] <bob2> Kyral: people can choose to do whatever they want, but removing evolution will make upgrades more complicated
[04:48] <cfh_dev> bob2, it has memory resident pieces that I'm not too keen about
[04:48] <delltony> actually there is a project called captive that states it can read/right ntfs gnu/linux
[04:48] <bob2> delltony: if it's blank, you can just nuke it and repartition it from scratch
[04:48] <jknife> dooglus, well he could use ntfs he would just have to scan it every time he wrote to it in linux
[04:48] <bob2> cfh_dev: stop them running then
[04:48] <delltony> thats what i'm gonna do bob2
[04:48] <afaik> since I installed ubuntu I have a REAL problem with my laptop overheating all the time
[04:48] <afaik> why!?
[04:48] <afaik> What can I do!?
[04:48] <dooglus> jknife: how would he even write to it in linux?
[04:48] <cfh_dev> bob2, I can stop the procs but I'm having to hunt down what is starting them
[04:49] <_jason> afaik:  what laptop do you have
[04:49] <delltony> doesn't windows have a driver or something that will read ext3? i seen it on a forum i thought somewherre
[04:49] <jknife> dooglus, enable write support to ntfs in his kernel
[04:49] <afaik> Dell Inspiron 1100
[04:49] <bob2> delltony: read, yes
[04:49] <Kyral> bob2, IMO, removing a package shouldn't break anything unless its a direct depend
[04:49] <eruin> what's the correct module for a centrino?
[04:49] <bob2> delltony: I wouldn't trust windows not to break it if it wrote to it
[04:49] <dooglus> jknife: did you try that?  it doesn't let you do anything other than overwrite existing files
[04:49] <bob2> eruin: module for what? wireless?
[04:49] <bob2> Kyral: sure, but it still makes upgrades harder
[04:49] <delltony> but really i want two partitions 50gig/50gig  50 ntfs and 50 fat32 i assume its possible
[04:49] <eruin> bob2, err, sorry, pentium m :)
[04:49] <skrewdriver> bob2: looks like the packages weren't installed
[04:50] <bob2> Kyral: people who know what effect removing ubunut-desktop will have will not be asking on irc
[04:50] <nalioth> delltony: yes there is, but do you want windows mucking around in your linux?
[04:50] <dooglus> delltony: how about having two partitions, one for windows to write and one for linux.  they could both read each other's partitions, but not write.
[04:50] <bob2> skrewdriver: run the aptitude command again
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[04:50] <jknife> dooglus, its still "write" support
[04:50] <_jason> afaik:  i have a dell inspiron 820  and it hasn't given me any heat issues.  How do you know it is overheating?
[04:50] <nalioth> delltony: you only really need about 7gb for windows (on NTFS)
[04:50] <delltony> thats what i want dooglus
[04:50] <bob2> delltony: Im not sure windows will actually work with a 50GB fat32 partition
[04:50] <delltony> not installing windows on it
[04:50] <bob2> it has an absurdly low limit
[04:50] <Kyral> bob2, so when I do a server install I should install Ubuntu-Desktop even though I don't want half of the packages?
[04:50] <dooglus> nalioth: it's an external drive.  I don't think he's installing windows on it
[04:50] <delltony> simply for file storage backups only thats it
[04:51] <bob2> eruin: you don't need to load special anything then
[04:51] <delltony> but windows fat32 doesn't like long file names
[04:51] <bob2> Kyral: server != desktop used by people who don't really grok apt
[04:51] <delltony> and linux hates ntfs
[04:51] <dooglus> delltony: use NTFS and reiserfs.  or NTFS and ext3
[04:51] <bob2> windows fat32 does 255-cahr filenames just fine
[04:51] <nalioth> Kyral: no, you should install what you want to use on it
[04:51] <delltony> and this can be done with parted?
[04:51] <Kyral> thank you
[04:51] <skrewdriver> bob2: aptitude says it can't find the package "linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386"
[04:51] <eruin> bob2, I have issues with the computer resetting because it gets too hot. only happens in linux, so I figure something wrong is loaded :/
[04:52] <nalioth> delltony: use fat32
[04:52] <Kyral> I don't fully grok apt, but I believe I know enough to know what will fsck up what
[04:52] <dooglus> eruin: only in ubuntu, as far as I can tell...
[04:52] <dooglus> eruin: mandriva's fine
[04:52] <brownie17> can someone help me?, i have an mpg file that is about 850meg and i want to shrink it under 700
[04:52] <bob2> skrewdriver: your kernel is out of date
[04:52] <delltony> it does? reason i say that bob2 is it was orignally fat32 and i went to copy some files to the drive that were long file names and it gave me that error
[04:52] <bob2> eruin: dooglus my centrino laptop as been running ubuntu for 10 months and it's never overheated, and I've heard the fan turn on about 4 times
[04:53] <delltony> none the less parted will let me partition the drive like i want?
[04:53] <bob2> delltony: what error?
[04:53] <bob2> delltony: yes
[04:53] <eruin> bob2, heh.
[04:53] <skrewdriver> bob2: bloody hell. is there a quick way to get it up to date?
[04:54] <jknife> n00b question here!!! what is rsync?
[04:54] <delltony> well it said something in regard to disk partition table doesn't support long file names
[04:54] <Phily> Knelix: did u get your screen shot
[04:54] <bob2> jknife: apt-ccache show rsync
[04:54] <delltony> but anyway thats said and done i just want to get the drive formated :)
[04:54] <bob2> jknife: and rsync.samba.org
[04:54] <dooglus> jknife: fast remote file copy program (like rcp)
[04:54] <eruin> bob2, that doesn't exactly mean nobody elses centrino models might have issues with the current ubuntu setup now does it?
[04:54] <bob2> skrewdriver: install linux-386
[04:54] <bob2> eruin: no, I was disputing dooglus's claim it was a general ubuntu issue
[04:54] <skrewdriver> bob2: sweet. thanks man.
[04:55] <bob2> eruin: what does google say about other people's experiences?
[04:55] <oblib> Question: when I boot up, Ubuntu does not mount my serial ata drive (sda1). I can mount it just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. Anyone know why?
[04:55] <jknife> ty
[04:55] <afaik> is there something I can do to fix my laptop from overheating?
[04:55] <eruin> bob2, haven't found anything of substance yet
[04:55] <dooglus> bob2: I wasn't saying it was a general ubuntu problem.  I was saying it wasn't a general linux problem
[04:55] <nalioth> oblib: is it in your fstab?
[04:55] <dooglus> bob2: I was saying it was specific to ubuntu
[04:55] <nalioth> afaik: buy a cool pad?
[04:55] <oblib> nalioth: as follows: /dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[04:55] <xuniluser> What cd burner do you use in ubuntu?
[04:55] <afaik> nalioth, not the solution, it does not overheat when I dual boot to windows
[04:56] <Phily> afaik: u can get one of those bottom fan add on
[04:56] <ksmurf> Last night I was asking if anyone had ideas about why my internal wifi card kept going awol for no apperent reason on my acer travelmate 2312.  I'm using breezy kernal 2.6.12-9-686.  The card is seen again now but i know It will leave with 5 reboots (laptop).  Can anyone give me insight into why this may be happening?
[04:56] <afaik> so obviously, there is a configuration setting that needs to be set
[04:56] <afaik> Phily, NOT THE SOLUTION!
[04:56] <bob2> eruin: file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com, component linux
[04:56] <afaik> THERE MUST BE SOME CONFIGURATION SETTING
[04:56] <bob2> afaik: file a bug, too
[04:56] <bob2> afaik: stop it
[04:56] <Phily> afaik: Pentium M down clock it
[04:56] <dooglus> bob2: there are several bugs about this already
[04:56] <afaik> because my laptop doesnt overheat in windows
[04:56] <afaik> Phily, NOT THE SOLUTION
[04:56] <bob2> afaik: chill out
[04:56] <nalioth> oblib: you need "auto," in front of the nls part
[04:57] <nalioth> afaik: watch the caps, please
[04:57] <Phily> afaik: r u using Pentium M?
[04:57] <dooglus> the kernel should block the cpu when it's about to overheat, before it gets powered down.  but it doesn't.
[04:57] <afaik> itr's not hardware, it is obviously a configuration issue
[04:57] <afaik> Phily, no
[04:57] <dooglus> windows does it fine, so does mandrake.  ubuntu somehow doesn't.
[04:57] <afaik> Xeon
[04:57] <Phily> afaik: what r u using
[04:57] <delltony> i'm sorry to be a pest but is there a hold my hand walkthru howto for parted?
[04:57] <bob2> dooglus: you've tested the same machine with mandrake and ubuntu?
[04:57] <dooglus> bob2: yes. and xp
[04:57] <nalioth> delltony: open a terminal, and type "sudo apt-get install qtparted"
[04:57] <dooglus> bob2: this laptop tri-boots
[04:58] <afaik> my bad, celeron
[04:58] <nalioth> delltony: after it's done, start it from the terminal
[04:58] <nalioth> delltony: it's self-explanatory
[04:58] <bob2> dooglus: interesting; have you followed up to one of the bug reports?
[04:58] <oblib> nalioth: like this? /dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    auto,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[04:58] <dooglus> bob2: yes
[04:58] <bob2> dooglus: great, thanks
[04:58] <jknife> "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/rsync could not be found."
[04:58] <nalioth> oblib: yes
[04:58] <Phily> delltony: use qtparted
[04:58] <dooglus> bob2: I've been a bug reporting machine this last 2 weeks.
[04:58] <bob2> jknife: for errors like that, you need to tell us what on earth you're doing to get that error
[04:59] <delltony> oh qtparted not parted
[04:59] <oblib> nalioth: why do my other drives mount fine without that?
[04:59] <delltony> alright let me try that
[04:59] <bob2> dooglus: hah, cool; any been fixed yet?
[04:59] <nalioth> delltony: if you have a thing for gtk, you can install gparted instead
[04:59] <jknife> i set sources.list to use rsyns.. did apt-get update
[04:59] <nalioth> oblib: do they have "auto" in their lines?
[04:59] <jknife> rsycn*
[04:59] <bob2> jknife: er, so don't do that
[04:59] <delltony> nah i don't knock it till i try it and it don't work for me :)
[04:59] <bob2> jknife: afaik, apt doesn't have a rsync method
[04:59] <boxerboy29> this is a bit off topic but i feel the need to let ppl know what has happened if i may
[04:59] <Vaske_Car> Why my server crashing every 2-3 days? I am using just Samba on it..
[05:00] <delltony> aww cool a linux version of part magic
[05:00] <oblib> nalioth: no. I have two other IDE drives and they are identical to the first entry I pasted. They mount just fine
[05:00] <delltony> nalioth, thanks
[05:00] <delltony> you too bob2
[05:00] <boxerboy29> mandriva's kernel update will cause you to lose ubuntu
[05:00] <dooglus> afaik, eruin: perhaps you could add comments to the bug here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16129 - to let people know it's a real issue.
[05:00] <jknife> ok...
[05:00] <delltony> now to see if my drive actually detects thats the biggy brb
[05:01] <nalioth> oblib: that is weird
[05:01] <ksmurf> I'm sorry to have bothered any of you.  I find an answer elsewhere I guess.
[05:01] <reter> bob2: you know when you install ubuntu from cd you can choose to enter 'server'. after you do that, how do you install the rest of the files?
[05:01] <bob2> ksmurf: have you filed a bug report?
[05:01] <cfh_dev> I get this message during boot.  Is worty worrying about?  "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda3."
[05:01] <bob2> reter: that's not the solution to whatever problem you're having
[05:01] <cfh_dev> s/worty/worth/
[05:01] <bob2> cfh_dev: that means you miscompiled your kernel
[05:02] <bob2> cfh_dev: oh, it finishes booting?
[05:02] <_jason> how do I edit my places menu in gnome (hoary)?
[05:02] <jknife> still getting less then 100Kb
[05:02] <cfh_dev> bob2, yep, everything runs fine
[05:02] <dooglus> _jason: I think you just need to bookmark places in nautilus
[05:02] <ksmurf> Is it a bug? I have no idea how to explain an issue that is intermitant like that.
[05:02] <oblib> nalioth: thanks, I'm going to reboot and see if it works
[05:02] <bob2> cfh_dev: might just be the kernel trying to detect the filesystem type
[05:02] <cfh_dev> bob2, hda3 is reiserfs which is /.  The message doesn't seem to hinder anything
[05:02] <bob2> ksmurf: just explain it like you did above
[05:02] <reter> what is the solution then bob2?
[05:02] <dooglus> _jason: but don't bookmark too much, especially remote places, or you'll find your system start crawling)
[05:03] <_jason> dooglus:  thanks, but I wanted to remove a link: for example "Desktop"
[05:03] <ksmurf> k....Thanks I bug it right now.
[05:03] <bob2> reter: to actually find out what the problem is, for a start
[05:03] <bob2> ksmurf: great, good luck
[05:03] <dooglus> _jason: I don't know if you can.
[05:03] <bob2> reter: did you check if the CD was ok?
[05:03] <boxerboy29> they may email you asking for a file  like they did with me i think it was a file that kept track of errors
[05:03] <reter> bob2: as far as i know the cd is ok
[05:04] <bob2> reter: did you check?
[05:04] <reter> yes bob2
[05:04] <jknife> may go to debian b/c of d/l speed :-/
[05:05] <bob2> jknife: don't be silly
[05:05] <jknife> 60Kb!! compared to debian 300Kb
[05:05] <bob2> jknife: so use a different mirror, duh
[05:05] <bob2> or get a better ISP
[05:05] <bob2> even in Australia, I get 150KB/s from archive.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <jknife> i have... tried all us mirrors bout the same speed
[05:06] <bob2> that's unlikely to be a mirror problem then
[05:06] <reter> thank you so much for your help bob2
[05:06] <bob2> reter: ?
[05:07] <reter> you've been a real assistance
[05:07] <remyforbes777> anyone ever get hda lost interrupt
[05:07] <bob2> reter: you really checked the  md5sum of the cd itself?
[05:07] <bob2> reter: stop being a gimp
[05:07] <jknife> Fetched 4216kB in 54s (76.7kB/s)
[05:08] <lastnode> bob2, to confirm once before i install - the chipset is plug and play, even under hoary?
[05:08] <bob2> lastnode: ?
[05:08] <bob2> lastnode: ubuntu includes the ipw2200 driver, yes
[05:09] <lastnode> thanks, brb after install
[05:09] <ksmurf> is there an easy way to find out what drivers my wifi card is using?
[05:09] <bob2> ksmurf: dmesg and lsmod
[05:09] <bob2> (ie not without external knowledge)
[05:09] <delltony> sweet thanks again for the help guys this is workinig perfectly
[05:09] <ksmurf> I know it's mad wifi so that will help
[05:11] <boxerboy29> forget them and their crap worth of oses
[05:11] <jmg> anyone here run electricsheep?
[05:11] <bob2> ksmurf: atheros probably, then
[05:12] <remyforbes777> i installed knoppix on my hard drive and I am getting hda lost interrupt error
[05:12] <remyforbes777> any ideas
[05:12] <Travis|H> hmm, i just installed colony 5 and I was wondering ... how do you enable font smoothing ... the ubuntuguide is still on 5.04 (makes sense seeing as 5.10 isn't final yet) .. but .. just wondering
[05:12] <alisher> linux-restricted-modules includes atheros(madwifi) module, right?
[05:12] <bob2> reter: #knoppix
[05:12] <bob2> alisher: yes
[05:13] <bob2> Travis|H: system -> preferences -> fonts
[05:13] <bob2> bah
[05:13] <bob2> remyforbes777: #knoppix, of course
[05:13] <boxerboy29> if i remember right breezy "guide" should be in menu when released
[05:13] <bob2> !+find libXp.so
[05:13] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[05:13] <remyforbes777> so its just knoppix
[05:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libXp.so' (3 shown): (/usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so) in libdevel/libxp-dev ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/{libXp.so.6|libXp.so.6.2}) in libs/libxp6 ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/debug/{libXp.so.6|libXp.so.6.2}) in libdevel/libxp6-dbg.
[05:13] <remyforbes777> hmmm
[05:13] <bob2> remyforbes777: it has nothing to do with us
[05:14] <remyforbes777> ahhh
[05:14] <remyforbes777> gotcha
[05:14] <bob2> asking about distros in other distro's channels is kinda silly
[05:14] <bob2> and considered rude
[05:15] <henriquemaia> Hello. Does anyone knows how to make amarok play CDs?
[05:15] <jknife> yep take a hammer to it
[05:15] <remyforbes777> considered rude huh?
[05:15] <jknife> shows disrespect
[05:15] <tritium> remyforbes777, of course.  This is an ubuntu channel.
[05:16] <hosler> I tried to install PEAR to use the DB.php function on my shared hosting server, but that didnt work. Is there an alternative to DB.php that doesnt require PEAR to be installed that I can use?
[05:16] <jknife> yay i found a ftp that gives me 200+Kb
[05:16] <brownie17> does anyone know a *nix compatible alternative to Ashampoo Shrink & Burn?
[05:16] <tristanmike> RE: the wiki's restricted formats section, where it says to add the "debian-marillat" into the source.list, I do that and get an error on sudo apt-get update, anyone gimmie a sugestion?
[05:17] <jknife> brownie17, nope
[05:17] <bob2> wtf
[05:17] <Rylie> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:17] <giard> breezy question: is there a guide to playing quicktime movies somewhere?
[05:17] <Travis|H> giard: lemme know if you find one, that's on my list of things I need to get working too :)
[05:18] <jknife> isn't there a quicktime for linux?
[05:18] <Diskgrind> I have a problem; after updating Ubuntu, the lower panel doesnt show the minimized windows on the panel, I can alt tab them back but I cant see them in the lower panel anymore.
[05:19] <jknife> right mouse click and goto add to panel
[05:19] <remyforbes777> anyone using ubuntu 64
[05:19] <Travis|H> nope no quicktime for linux
[05:19] <jknife> and add window list
[05:19] <spindley> heh
[05:19] <jknife> Diskgrind, read my last 2 msgs
[05:20] <trans_err> anyone run into a problem with evolution freezing on start in breezy?
[05:20] <Diskgrind> Yes I got them.. thank you very much.. I thought something was wrong with the deal.. thanks!!!!
[05:20] <jknife> n/p
[05:20] <remyforbes777> noone using ubuntu 64
[05:21] <jknife> remyforbes777, i HOPEFULLY will be by mid oct
[05:21] <brownie17> MadpilotPPC, what do you know about video files? i want to shrink one, it is a mpeg, 850mg. i want it less than 700. know any good software?
[05:21] <jknife> (gonna be upgrading my pc around the 10th)
[05:21] <hosler> trans_err: no
[05:21] <remyforbes777> well i have tried installing it on my amd 64 turion based laptop and it freezes at login everytime
[05:22] <jknife> brownie17, umm.. i know of windows programs
[05:22] <Diskgrind> One more question; after letting all the updates run and rebooting, I now have more choices in the grub loader and it doubled my windows XP choice, can I safely remove the older Ubuntu versions from the grub list?
[05:22] <oblib> nalioth: It didn't work -- it says it can't find the device or something
[05:22] <remyforbes777> logs says that x is configured wrong, but can't tell what x setting is wrong
[05:22] <brownie17> jknife, i had one, but through wine it didn't recognise my cd burner
[05:22] <jknife> brownie17, but any decent video editor you will be able to(just set the res to 320x200)
[05:23] <remyforbes777> knoppix live cd runs x fine
[05:23] <jknife> or 320x240
[05:23] <nalioth> oblib: weird
[05:23] <brownie17> jknife, well theres my problem isn't it? i don't have a video editor. i need one. know any programs for *nix?
[05:23] <alisher> http://heroinewarrior.com/quicktime.php3
[05:24] <oblib> Is there a file that records all of the messages it shows at boot?
[05:24] <jknife> yeah.. umm there is one called actorstudio(?) dont know if thats the right name but it comes with SuSE is how i found about it
[05:24] <alisher> http://freshmeat.net/projects/quicktimeforlinux/
[05:24] <jknife> (its commerical)
[05:24] <Diskgrind> One more question; after letting all the updates run and rebooting, I now have more choices in the grub loader and it doubled my windows XP choice, can I safely remove the older Ubuntu versions from the grub list? or should I even do that?
[05:24] <alex_f> oblib: dmesg
[05:24] <brownie17> jknife, thanks
[05:24] <jknife> np
[05:25] <jknife> (gotta close X need to free up resources)
[05:25] <jorgp2> trans_err: no, but I have run into firefox causing Xorg to use 800+Meg of ram and grinding the machine to a halt because it only have 256M ram and 768M swap
[05:25] <xuniluser> HELP: Can I burn a .iso file using nautilus?
[05:25] <oblib> thanks alex_f
[05:25] <jknife> use cddao
[05:25] <Diskgrind> Have a good night all
[05:26] <jorgp2> xuniluser: yes, right click and burn image
[05:26] <epiloc> does anyone here think walmart would cary a usb floppy drive?
[05:26] <reter> yes epiloc
[05:26] <epiloc> off to walmart i go
[05:27] <jorgp2> epiloc: yes, like $30-40
[05:27] <reter> epiloc, what else is open at this time for you?
[05:27] <delltony> wafflehouse :p
[05:27] <epiloc> nothing i can think of
[05:27] <epiloc> kmart
[05:27] <reter> epiloc, wait tomorrow and go to a computer store
[05:27] <delltony> epiloc, you have wafflehouse?
[05:27] <reter> no not kmart
[05:27] <epiloc> but electronics close early i thought
[05:27] <trs4ece> hey, how do we use those .deb files found in the ubuntu package search?
[05:27] <oblib> So my problem I think is that it tries to mount the serial ATA drive before it knows it's there. Is there somewhere I can tell manually to mount later in the boot process?
[05:27] <tritium> reter, why are you telling him to wait?
[05:27] <xuniluser> jorgp2: but it seems it can't locate the cd inside, eventhough after placing the blank cd, a new window opens...
[05:28] <delltony> if you have a frys around you go there they are the computer geeks homedepot
[05:28] <jorgp2> xuniluser: close the new window
[05:28] <epiloc> man, lubbock has no frys
[05:28] <epiloc> i miss dallas
[05:28] <Spudz0r> hai everyone
[05:29] <delltony> i assume dallas texas
[05:29] <epiloc> ok im off to wallyworld, i HAVE to get this laptop running
[05:29] <delltony> i use to live in austin
[05:29] <Travis|H> hmm, is anyone able to add this radio station to Rhythmbox http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/stream/1039 ............ when I attempt to play this back I get "unexpected end of stream"
[05:29] <Travis|H> as do i with all other stations im trying to add
[05:29] <remyforbes777> anyone in ohio
[05:29] <delltony> Travis|H, just curious have you tried it with xmms?
[05:30] <xuniluser> xuniluser: still it asks for a blank cd
[05:30] <desidaerius504> I'm across the river in KY remy
[05:30] <remyforbes777> oh yeah, im in cincinnati, what part of ky?
[05:30] <xuniluser> jorgp2: still it asks for a blank cd
[05:30] <oblib> Anyone know how to add a manual mount later in the boot process?
[05:30] <desidaerius504> florence/union
[05:30] <delltony> remyforbes777,  you around wooster or miamisburg dayton?
[05:30] <nalioth> desidaerius504: remyforbes777 in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:30] <Travis|H> delltony: i don't have xmms installed, i'll try
[05:31] <Spudz0r> would anyone be able to help me... i've installed ubuntu 5.04 on my new laptop and got everything working, apart from my battery monitor... when i do 'cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state' all i get is 'present: yes, ERROR Unable to read battery status', can anyone help me?
[05:31] <desidaerius504> sorry
[05:31] <delltony> well xmms to me is the winamp of linux
[05:31] <Travis|H> yea, i used itunes in windows .. and rhythmbox seems to be the itunes of linux :)
[05:31] <oblib> nalioth can you help me?
[05:31] <nalioth> oblib: with what?
[05:32] <delltony> well i always play shoutcast streams and xmms is all i could find that worked for me
[05:32] <Travis|H> bah, no XMMS for breezy either
[05:32] <jsubl2> i bet amarok would work with shoutcast
[05:32] <delltony> yeah there is
[05:32] <xuniluser> jorgp2: it says Insert Blank Disc
[05:32] <Travis|H> which repo?
[05:32] <delltony> i'm using it :)
[05:32] <delltony> hang on let me find out
[05:32] <reter> how do you configure x?
[05:33] <boxerboy29> nalioth: is it worth using ubuntu and than installing kubuntu on other drive? instead of mixing the 2
[05:33] <oblib> nalioth I think I just need to put a manual mount command later in the boot process, after it has recognized the serialATA drive. Can I do that?
[05:33] <alisher> Travis|H how came no xmms for breezu
[05:33] <delltony> hmm i thought apt-cache show showed the repository
[05:34] <nalioth> boxerboy29: (k)ubuntu are the same animal underneath. only the interface is different
[05:34] <Travis|H> i dunno i have universe and multiverse in my sources
[05:34] <Travis|H> backports seems to not work
[05:34] <delltony> pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:34] <delltony> i can post my source.list if you want
[05:34] <Travis|H> yea just /msg it to me
[05:34] <alisher> Travis|H xmms isnt in Universe
[05:35] <delltony> ill paste bin it
[05:35] <Travis|H> alisher: where is it?
[05:35] <boxerboy29> yeah i know but there are things i enjoy using kde for and im really getting tired of getting ubuntu screwed up by redhat/redora/and mandriva
[05:35] <alisher> I think main or restricted
[05:35] <nerdcore> i don't suppose someone could answer a quick question about GRUB on Ubuntu?
[05:35] <alisher> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xmms&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[05:35] <xuniluser> Are there other cd burning programs for ubuntu aside from nautilus?
[05:35] <delltony> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/376470
[05:35] <delltony> there you go
[05:36] <hud> Seveas: you here?
[05:36] <Travis|H> thanks dell
[05:36] <delltony> np
[05:36] <Amaranth> xuniluser: gnomebaker and k3b
[05:36] <Toma-> xuniluser: k3b = <3
[05:36] <delltony> oh and travis you running it on a lappy?
[05:36] <brownie17> i need help, i was trying to compile a program, and i got the following error: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[05:36] <alisher> Travis|H xmms is in main
[05:37] <xuniluser> Amaranth: thanks
[05:37] <brownie17> nalioth, is that a bug in the program? ^^^
[05:37] <xuniluser> Toma: thanks
[05:37] <delltony> alisher how do you determine that in aptitude? or is there a way
[05:37] <nerdcore> is there a utility i can use to automatically reconfigure GRUB? when I have it load windows it just hangs, and i would rather not go manually configure it....
[05:37] <Toma-> brownie17: compiling usually needs the -dev packages of everything u need to compile with
[05:37] <nalioth> brownie17: no its a lapse in your installing skillz. install libgtk<something>-dev
[05:38] <Toma-> just get the deb :(
[05:38] <brownie17> nalioth, i have no illusions of grandure, but i do not follow. what is the <something>?
[05:39] <nalioth> brownie17: <something> is my memory doesnt tell me what numbers go there
[05:39] <ryufreak> i need a bunch of help!
[05:39] <ryufreak> i can't figure out how to get access to my other hard drive :(
[05:40] <vladuz976> i noticed in expert mode you can use the option "desktop" to install and i guess it sets up different partions for / and /boot what is the advantage of that as to having it in one like with default installation?
[05:40] <ryufreak> can anyone help me?
[05:41] <delltony> ryufreak, what type of hdd is it? as in ntfs fat32?
[05:41] <trs4ece> What do I have to do to use packages?  I've downloaded a couple and they each have two tar files and a debian-binary but I don't know what to do with 'em.
[05:41] <reter> how do you reconfigure x?
[05:41] <dreamwave> hi.  just got my new hard drive in the mail.  i plan to install a dual boot system to it.  should i install xp first?
[05:41] <ryufreak> fat32
[05:41] <delltony> how many drives in he system?
[05:41] <ryufreak> 2
[05:41] <Toma-> reter: what do u need to do?
[05:41] <thrice`> dreamwave, most definitely
[05:41] <dreamwave> thanks
[05:41] <delltony> more than likely its hdc
[05:41] <reter> Toma-: my gnome is not working. i want to try to configure it
[05:41] <ryufreak> ?
[05:42] <Toma-> gnome and X are 2 different things...
[05:42] <delltony> but you can try doing a fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[05:42] <Travis|H> yea the stream works peachy in XMMS :(
[05:42] <delltony> and see if it looks lie the drive
[05:42] <Travis|H> gah stupid rhythmbox
[05:42] <Toma-> u sure its X u need to fix or gnome?
[05:42] <ryufreak> in terminal?
[05:42] <reter> tome: dont know
[05:43] <Hmmmm> hi guys i need some help configuring X on my friend's machine
[05:43] <ryufreak> bash: -l: command not found
[05:43] <brownie17> Travis|H, rhythmbox is great
[05:43] <nalioth> !tell ryufreak about windowsdrives
[05:43] <trs4ece> ah come on guys, it can't be that hard to use these packages, even a URL to a site explaining what to do would help
[05:43] <delltony> if so then 1) sudo mkdir /media/myfat32  2) chmod 777 /media/fat32  3) sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc /media/myfat32
[05:43] <Hmmmm> he has an intel 82845G grpahics card and a compaq s700 monitor
[05:43] <uglysmurf> smb shares not showing up, even at smb://<IP_ADDRESS> ...it recognizes that smb is up and running, but it's not realizing any shares...anyone?
[05:43] <Travis|H> brownie: yea i can't get it to playback a shoutcast stream
[05:43] <Hmmmm> i cant get beyong 800x600@16 bit
[05:44] <trs4ece> Hmmmm: register your nick and type /msg ubotu fixres
[05:44] <Hmmmm> can someone suggest some solution to go 1026@24 bit?
[05:44] <Toma-> reter: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)
[05:44] <Travis|H> i'm trying to add http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/stream/1039 as a radio station and it won't play .. says "Stream Error Unexpected end of stream" .. but it plays back just fine in XMMS
[05:44] <Toma-> reter: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[05:44] <delltony> aww so xmms did work
[05:44] <Travis|H> yep
[05:44] <Hmmmm> trs4ece, thanks, am taking al ook at the site
[05:44] <Toma-> what does that return?
[05:44] <ryufreak> sudo mkdir /media/myfat32, i did that and it asked for pw, i entered, i'm guessing that detected it?
[05:44] <delltony> yeah i never had luck with rythm myself so i gave up
[05:45] <Travis|H> i guess xmms uses gtk1? heh menus are hideous
[05:45] <nalioth> delltony: read what ubotu just sent you please, you'll find a lot easier way to help folks
[05:45] <Toma-> Hmmmm: you need to add the resultion to xorg.conf
[05:45] <delltony> yeah was reading it just now and thanks
[05:45] <vladuz976> libtagc0 is not in the repo for breezy?
[05:45] <reter> toma: no such file or directory
[05:46] <oblib> question: Ubuntu does not mount my serial ATA drive during boot and returns an error that it cannot find the device (it is in fstab). I think that it is trying to mount it before it recognizes the serial ATA. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[05:46] <trs4ece> I feel like a broken record, has anybody here ever used packages downloaded from the ubuntu website and if so, hwo do you install them?
[05:46] <Toma-> reter: u using xorg?
[05:46] <delltony> hey nalioth you happen to know when firefox will be stable in breezy? it crashes like a drunk on friday night :)
[05:46] <bob2> delltony: if you find reproducible crashes, please do file bugs
[05:46] <bob2> delltony: sadly, removing your profile often helps
[05:47] <reter> toma: apprently not
[05:47] <philc> anyone use rezound sound editor?
[05:47] <Toma-> gosh. well i dunno the file name :/
[05:47] <delltony> oh really thats something i will try but it happens on java enabled sites mostly
[05:47] <delltony> even though the offical sun java is installed and is working per their test page
[05:47] <Toma-> reter: check your x seve log for (EE) messages
[05:47] <Toma-> *server
[05:47] <bob2> oh, java
[05:48] <delltony> yeah i know you don't have to tell me ;)
[05:48] <bob2> if you're using non-free plugins, you need to talk to whoever made them, mostly
[05:48] <evian> trs4ece, use dpkg -i whatever.deb
[05:48] <afaik> woo hoo!!
[05:48] <afaik> 100% downloaded
[05:49] <trs4ece> evian: thank you!  I'm off to do some installing now :-)
[05:49] <evian> great
[05:49] <afaik> it was a warez pack...10 gigz of warez :P
[05:49] <afaik> just kidding... freebsd cds
[05:50] <vladuz976> how can i make a debian *.deb file usable for ubuntu?
[05:50] <bob2> vladuz976: you can't, generally
[05:50] <bob2> vladuz976: normally rebuilding the debian source on ubuntu is enough
[05:51] <Hmmmm> Toma-, the thing is that the entry for 1024@24 bit is there in xorg. but the damn thing doesnt accpet it
[05:51] <vladuz976> bob2, but i need this one package and it's not available in breezy yet
[05:51] <afaik> it already is
[05:51] <afaik> ubuntu uzez debs
[05:51] <afaik> s/debs/debz
[05:51] <bob2> vladuz976: and the package is...
[05:51] <ryufreak> so i just did this winmac_fstab, and i still can't figure out how to go into the other hard drive
[05:51] <vladuz976> bob2, libtagc0
[05:51] <Toma-> Hmmmm: u using the right defaultdepth?
[05:51] <oblib> How do I add a program to run every time I boot?
[05:51] <bob2> vladuz976: why do you need it?
[05:52] <vladuz976> bob2, for enlightenment wm
[05:52] <bob2> e16 doesn't need that
[05:52] <vladuz976> bob2, e17 does
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i use mv to change the name of a directory?
[05:52] <nalioth> vladuz976: use ubuntu stuff, or compile
[05:52] <bob2> MaTaKs: no need to /msg me
[05:52] <oblib> ryufreak do you understand how to mount drives?
[05:52] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: mv foo bar
[05:52] <nalioth> ryufreak: look in /media
[05:52] <xuniluser> Why is that my gnomebaker and nautilus can't detect a cd inside my burner?
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 that says "cannot copy foo into subdirectory bar"
[05:53] <Toma-> i think he pm'ed the whole channel...
[05:53] <vladuz976> nalioth, what do you mean by "ubuntu" stuff? i compile
[05:53] <xuniluser> i mean my cdrom writer
[05:53] <bob2> vladuz976: if you're compiling it, you need the -dev package
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 i don't want to copy foo into bar.  i want to change the name
[05:53] <vladuz976> bob2, can't even find that
[05:53] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: show us the actual command you ran
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> mv coldplay COLDPLAY
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://www.wamu.com/personal/default.asp
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> err..
[05:53] <Toma-> MaTaKs: yes its good...?
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> mv: cannot move `coldplay' to a subdirectory of itself, `COLDPLAY/coldplay'
[05:53] <epiloc> mmm lovely walmart
[05:54] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: that won't work on fat32
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> could this be because the fs is fat 32?
[05:54] <bob2> yes
[05:54] <Diskgrind> Can I have Gnome  AND  Kde and be able to choose one or the other at boot?
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> doh!
[05:54] <bob2> it's case-insensitive
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 some directories on this drive or caps and some are lowercase.
[05:54] <bob2> mv coldplay blah ; mv blah COLDPLAY
[05:54] <Toma-> Diskgrind: yes. u get to choose at login
[05:54] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: yes, fat32 handles it in a moronic way
[05:54] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: it stores the case, but doesn't let files differ only in case
[05:54] <Diskgrind> How do I do the choice?
[05:54] <vladuz976> bob2, is libtagc0-dev in the repo? i can't find it
[05:55] <hejux> hi ,i got a wrong messege on booting :failed to allocate mem resource 0X0xxx-xxX0000(some num. like this
[05:55] <alisher> vladuz976: strange, I have libtagc0 in breezy, why you dont?
[05:55] <Toma-> Diskgrind: ure using gdm or kdm? its on the login screen, click around till u find it
[05:55] <hejux> my os is ubuntu 5.10 pre.
[05:55] <ryufreak> nlioth: that worked thanks
[05:55] <bob2> vladuz976: yes, it's in breezy
[05:55] <Diskgrind> Toma  how do I find that?
[05:55] <vladuz976> alisher, bob2 don't know just installed breezy from iso
[05:56] <Diskgrind> toma   oh at the username and password part/
[05:56] <Samhain> is there a way to automatically recreate the xorg.conf file?
[05:56] <bob2> vladuz976: ok, but it is in in breezy, in universe
[05:56] <Toma-> Diskgrind: u know where u login with your user and pass? its there
[05:56] <Toma-> Diskgrind: yes.
[05:56] <bob2> Samhain: what did you do to it?
[05:56] <alisher> vladuz976: it is in Universe or Multiverse, enable them
[05:56] <oblib> nalioth: that's a smooth script, but still doesn't help my serial ATA problem
[05:56] <vladuz976> bob2, if i enable universe i get errors
[05:56] <omp> vladuz976: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:56] <Diskgrind> toma  thank you  I will try that.   So Ubuntu can have booth GUI's?
[05:56] <Samhain> yeah, I thought I copied it for a backup, then I deleted it. There was no copy :-\
[05:56] <vladuz976> omp, i did but then apt-get gives errors
[05:56] <bob2> vladuz976: perhaps showing them to us instaed of ignoring them would work better?
[05:56] <bob2> Samhain: don't ever delete config files from /etc/
[05:56] <vladuz976> bob2, ok
[05:56] <nalioth> oblib: well i guess a rewrite is in order, eh?
[05:56] <Samhain> well, too late
[05:56] <Hmmmm> Toma-, I tried using 24 bit as defaultdepth, but X mombed on me
[05:56] <alisher> vladuz976: sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <hejux> bob2 ,do you know whats the reason ?
[05:57] <Diskgrind> Toma What do most people use?  I am new at this...
[05:57] <omp> vladuz976: did you apt-get update after it?
[05:57] <bob2> Samhain: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-org ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:57] <Samhain> doesn't matter too much, I can just re-install
[05:57] <Samhain> i'll try that
[05:57] <Samhain> thanks
[05:57] <oblib> nalioth: Nah, it does what it's supposed to I would guess. I'm thinking my SATA is just special
[05:57] <hejux> i got a wrong messege on booting :failed to allocate mem resource 0X0xxx-xxX0000(some num. like this)
[05:58] <Diskgrind> toma   Thanks
[05:58] <Toma-> Hmmmm: whatd it say?
[05:58] <vladuz976> bob2, ok this is odd, before my update, enabling gave me errors, now after updating it's fine. so i guess libtagc0 should be ok now
[05:58] <narg> So I'm attempting to copy an iso off a cd by doing cp /dev/cdrom1 myiso.iso, but I get cp: reading `/dev/cdrom1': Input/output error
[05:58] <narg> scratched cd?
[05:59] <omp> vladuz976: after editing sources.list you have to apt-get update :P
[05:59] <omp> vladuz976: or else you'll get errors :D
[05:59] <bob2> narg: or dodge drive
[05:59] <alisher> vladuz976: or if in Synaptic you have to click reload
[05:59] <ryufreak> I hard a hard time installing my x800xl with ubuntu, so I used my 6600gt, is there a way for me to install my x800xl?
[05:59] <vladuz976> omp, yeah i know, thanks, but that was when i got the error. it said something like "can't read" some and then the url for the listing in sources.list
[05:59] <bob2> narg: 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=./foo.img' may work better
[05:59] <narg> would being on knoppix have any effect? (ubuntu isnt bootable atm)
[05:59] <narg> ok
[05:59] <Toma-> Hmmmm: u trying to use the standard drivers to get a decent resolution? coz it doesnt work...
[05:59] <narg> I'll try that
[06:00] <Strife> is anyone aware of a tool that lets you monitor ink level and do alignment for HP printers?
[06:00] <Samhain> bob2, thanks for the help
[06:00] <jrattner1> Why isnt Banshee available in hoary?
[06:00] <skopii> hi, is there a ubuntu repostory w/ mplayer?
[06:00] <Samhain> I somehow deleted the xserver. I said it was not installed
[06:00] <Samhain> I don't remember doing that
[06:00] <narg> skopii: multiverse/backports. Not sure which
[06:00] <bob2> jrattner1: did it exist in Debian in februry?
[06:01] <alisher> jrattner1: nbnashee is in Universe or multiverse
[06:01] <bob2> skopii: multiverse
[06:01] <skopii> thanks narg
[06:01] <skopii> thanks bob2
[06:01] <bob2> Samhain: er, read again what command I told you to run
[06:01] <jrattner1> its says its not available on the wiki
[06:01] <vladuz976> is there multiverse for breezy?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  yes.
[06:01] <alisher> there is
[06:01] <Strife> of course there is
[06:02] <Hmmmm> Toma-, ok lemme try it again
[06:02] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis, where can i find out what repos i can add to my sources. list in breezy?
[06:02] <jrattner1> alisher, Banshee works well with ipods i hear
[06:02] <bob2> vladuz976: the same ubuntu.com repositories as hoary
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> no clue.. i would guess the wiki's and forums are the place to start.
[06:02] <alisher> jrattner1 never used:(
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> i just added in multiverse after the lines that say 'universe' i think :P
[06:03] <vladuz976> bob2, right now after install i only have universe in my list
[06:03] <Travis|H> is the backports repisotory broken?
[06:03] <bob2> Travis|H: talk to the backports people
[06:03] <bob2> none of them appear to use irc or email
[06:03] <alisher> vladuz976: you have to add multiverse, it isnt oficially supported
[06:03] <Travis|H> awesome
[06:03] <vladuz976> alisher, where can i find available stuff to add?
[06:03] <jrattner1> alisher, i dont see banshee in universe
[06:04] <Amaranth> Travis|H: If you were using one of the bad unofficial backports repos then yes, they are down and will stay down.
[06:04] <alisher> jrattner1: maybe it is in multiverse
[06:04] <bob2> NeoFax-Away: please turn that off
[06:04] <Amaranth> !backports
[06:04] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[06:04] <alisher> I am not sure I have them all enabled, and i see banshee
[06:04] <Travis|H> yea .. im on breezy though .. probally just a matter of that
[06:04] <Amaranth> ah
[06:05] <Amaranth> you don't need the backports then, there is nothing to backport
[06:05] <ryufreak> whats the command to update X?
[06:06] <alisher> jrattner1: it is in universe, did you du sudo apt-get update?
[06:06] <jrattner1> alisher, im using synaptic
[06:06] <alisher> click "reload" after enabled universe
[06:07] <vladuz976> everything in my sources.list is enabled, isn't there some website that shows what to add to the list for multiverse?
[06:07] <jrattner1> alisher, its already enabled
[06:07] <alisher> then click Reload and search banshee
[06:07] <jrattner1> alisher, comes up with nothing
[06:07] <bob2> vladuz976: you don't need one
[06:07] <bob2> vladuz976: just add the multiverse after universe
[06:08] <alisher> or... you have Hoary?
[06:08] <khermans> Anyone have problems printing with evince?
[06:08] <khermans> in breezy
[06:08] <vladuz976> bob2, can you paste your sources.list somewhere so i can see it?
[06:08] <alisher> nanshee is in breezy only
[06:08] <bob2> vladuz976: no
[06:08] <Oris> Am i on Ubuntu support channel?
[06:08] <jrattner1> alisher, see thats what i was saying
[06:08] <alisher> maybe it is in backports then
[06:08] <bob2> Oris: it's called #ubuntu...
[06:08] <alisher> I use breezy, am not sure
[06:08] <prc> I'm using Hoary and I need libmp4v2.  It is not availible via apt.  What should I do?
[06:08] <bob2> vladuz976: add the word multiverse after universe
[06:08] <Oris> :))) Just checking :)
[06:09] <Oris> I have a problem.. Just installed Ubuntu(right now in Windows)
[06:09] <vladuz976> bob2,  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse" like that?
[06:09] <Travis|H> gah ok .. 3 packages i seem to have lost access to when jumping to Breezy ......... azureus, limewire, and w32codecs ...... where did they go?
[06:09] <Diskgrind> I installed Ubuntu and am using the Gnome Interface, can install Kde as well and use them both??
[06:09] <esac> how do i add a new module to be loaded on boot ? (i.e., i installed a wireless card driver, did modprobe ipw2200, it worked, and now i want it to always modprobe at boot)
[06:09] <bimberi> Diskgrind: yes
[06:10] <bob2> vladuz976: yup, exactly
[06:10] <Toma-> Diskgrind: yes. apt-get install kde-desktop
[06:10] <Toma-> i think
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> w32codecs   --> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> not sure about the others.
[06:10] <bob2> Travis|H: they were never in ubuntu
[06:10] <Jack_B> w32codecs has been taken off backports
[06:10] <bob2> Travis|H: they were in random other repositories you used to use
[06:10] <Jack_B> refer to Dr_Willis link
[06:10] <bimberi> Diskgrind: install kubuntu-desktop and you can choose the different environments from the login screen
[06:10] <khermans> Can someone try printing a PDF from evince and tell me if you get junk for output?
[06:10] <prc> I'm using Hoary and I need libmp4v2.  It is not availible via apt.  What should I do?
[06:10] <regeya> indeed.
[06:10] <Oris> When(in Grub) i start Linux Ubuntu, it starts loading and then "Critical Temperature was reached..." HOW DO I CHANGE THE CRITICAL SHUTDOWN TEMP? I can't get in OS
[06:10] <bob2> esac: you know ubuntu includes the ipw2200 driver, right?
[06:10] <Jack_B> try synaptic and search for it
[06:10] <vladuz976> bob2, thanks. but still  isn't there something that explains all these repos? some website?
[06:10] <Travis|H> k i assume azureus and limewire were also part of backports i take it
[06:11] <Toma-> Oris: check your cpu fan is working
[06:11] <Amaranth> Travis|H: I know at least w32codecs isn't in hoary-extras anymore either for legal reasons. (It's flatout illegal in any country with copyright law)
[06:11] <regeya> Diskgrind: you'll also get the option of changing over to kdm at that time; I wholeheartedly recommend it.
[06:11] <bob2> vladuz976: /msg ubotu repository
[06:11] <Diskgrind> I already installed Ubuntu   I do have the Kubuntu disk as well  how can I get both GUI's ?
[06:11] <prc> Jack_B, I did, and it's not there
[06:11] <Jack_B> vladuz976, try www.ubuntuguide.com
[06:11] <esac> bob2: i had to compile it because i am running the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel (because my laptop would hang when powering off or rebooting)
[06:11] <regeya> yikes.
[06:11] <khermans> Amaranth, the new gnome-bt is really good, an not feature bloated like Azureaus
[06:11] <Toma-> Diskgrind: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[06:11] <Toma-> is how
[06:11] <bob2> Diskgrind: install kubuntu-desktop
[06:11] <Oris> Toma - it works, i know i always have a high temperature(~60)
[06:11] <regeya> Diskgrind: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:11] <regeya> that's all
[06:11] <Amaranth> khermans: err
[06:11] <bob2> esac: if it's installed correctly, hotplug will load it magically
[06:11] <regeya> Diskgrind: I'm running kubuntu-desktop, and that's how I did it.
[06:11] <ColonelKernel> once again, im having DNS problems
[06:11] <esac> bob2: ok, thanks
[06:12] <regeya> works great
[06:12] <Jack_B> prc: go to command and type in sudo apt-get update
[06:12] <Toma-> Oris: its in your bios. probably under PC health/status option
[06:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> anybody here use fluxbox with hoary?
[06:12] <ColonelKernel> this has randomly popped its ugly head up again
[06:12] <Jack_B> prc, that should update the list of packages available
[06:12] <khermans> Amaranth, why not use it?
[06:12] <esac> bob2: now i just have to get the ati driver to work :)
[06:12] <Amaranth> khermans: I think you wanted to talk to Travis|H
[06:12] <Jack_B> if that doesn't work you'll have to edit your source list and add more repositories
[06:13] <Travis|H> the reason i like Azureus is it has support for RSS feeds
[06:13] <Travis|H> it's useful for getting IPTV shows automatically
[06:13] <henriquemaia> Hello. Does anyone knows how to make amarok play CDs?
[06:13] <Diskgrind> Toma-  I put in command line and it is installing now..  We will see how that works out.. Thanks guys!!!
[06:13] <Jack_B> anybody want to recommend a C compiler with a gui for linux?
[06:14] <prc> Jack_B, I updated and searched the cache, and nothing shows up.  Is there any other way to safely get a library?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> C compiler with a GUi.... o_0
[06:14] <Jack_B> ?
[06:14] <Amaranth> Travis|H: What is IPTV?
[06:14] <Amaranth> Travis|H: Nevermind.
[06:14] <Diskgrind> What do most people use as far as GUI's??
[06:14] <packman_e> gnome
[06:14] <Diskgrind> gnome or kde
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  whatever they feel like. :P
[06:14] <Toma-> kde
[06:14] <prc> Jack_B, My source list has everything Hoary has to offer, as far as I know
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> or neither... or like me - use both.
[06:15] <bob2> Jack_B: no useful C compiler has a GUI
[06:15] <Jack_B> ubuntu has gnome by default
[06:15] <Toma-> if im feeling sassy, i use enlightenment
[06:15] <Oris> I see this IRC channel is not helpful... No one answers my question.
[06:15] <nalioth> Jack_B: you mean like kdevelop?
[06:15] <bob2> Jack_B: you're looking for an IDE, I take it?
[06:15] <Diskgrind> lol
[06:15] <Jack_B> bob2: ahh ok
[06:15] <bob2> Oris: that's an awesome attitude
[06:15] <Diskgrind> ok ..ok
[06:15] <Sonny_Wertzik> anybody here use fluxbox with hoary?
[06:15] <Diskgrind> funny
[06:15] <Oris> lol..
[06:15] <Toma-> Oris: i answered.
[06:15] <Toma-> scroll up :/
[06:15] <Jack_B> prc: sorry i can't help you any further, i'm a noob too
[06:15] <Oris> I wrote you in private...
[06:15] <Jack_B> prc: try asking the mods
[06:15] <Travis|H> Amaranth: it's basically just "web shows" .. there's one called Systm, one called OpenAlpha.tv, one called Command.N, one called Digital Life TV
[06:16] <Toma-> no u didnt
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> most private msgs get ignored. due to all the spam bots lately. :P
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> private wont work is your nick isnt registered
[06:16] <prc> Jack_B, who are the mods?
[06:16] <Jack_B> nalioth: can i get kdevelop through synaptic
[06:16] <Oris> Toma.. Do you get my messages? Ok - you write me something
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> if
[06:16] <oblib> question: Ubuntu does not mount my serial ATA drive during boot and returns an error that it cannot find the device (it is in fstab). I think that it is trying to mount it before it recognizes the serial ATA. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  interesting.. does 'fdisk -l' show the device?
[06:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> OK can someont tell me if the new fluxbox works with hoary?
[06:16] <Jack_B> prc: only seveas is online right now, trying asking other more experienced people
[06:16] <Travis|H> the bulk of the IPTV shows are released under the creative commons licence and a lot use bittorrent as the sole method of distribution to cut down on bandwidth costs ..
[06:16] <packman_e> sorry guys, while following the ubuntu faq i am told to put in this repository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted'. unfortunately i get errors any ideas on how to solve it please?
[06:17] <ryufreak> would there be a way for me to get my x800xl to work?
[06:17] <Travis|H> advantage with Azureus is that it's able to monitor an RSS feed and automatically startup a transfer when a new episode is available
[06:17] <Oris> Toma - i saw your message, don't you see mines?
[06:17] <alisher> breezy backports? from what?
[06:17] <Toma-> nope?
[06:17] <ryufreak> i can only run in 6600gt
[06:17] <bob2> packman_e: er, no, what url "told you to do that"?
[06:17] <Oris> Ok...
[06:17] <packman_e> http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html
[06:17] <bob2> Toma-: so install it...
[06:17] <Oris> What do you suggest me to do? What's in my BIOS?
[06:17] <packman_e> chapter 2
[06:17] <Toma-> how very quirky.
[06:17] <bob2> bah
[06:17] <prc> Seveas, I need a library that is not availible through apt. I have Hoary.  Is there any other way to safely install a library?
[06:18] <Toma-> thank 4 the tip bob2 :P
[06:18] <Toma-> ?
[06:18] <bob2> prc: what do you need the library for?
[06:18] <bob2> Travis|H: so install it
[06:18] <prc> bob2, gtkpod
[06:19] <Oris> Toma - is there a way how i can change trip points from WINDOWS? to change critical temp.
[06:19] <Diskgrind> Toma-  what display manager should I choose???  gdm or kdm?
[06:19] <esac> has anybody got their wireless card working with a Microsoft Radius server (including certificate authentication) ?
[06:19] <bob2> prc: gtkpod is in ubuntu already
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  stick with gdm
[06:19] <oblib> Dr_Willis: yes
[06:19] <esac> definetely gdm
[06:19] <Toma-> Oris: nope. its a bios 'feature'
[06:19] <Diskgrind> ok   gdm it is..
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  if fdisk -l shows it.. check your fstab entry - it may just be wrong.
[06:19] <packman_e> bob2, it is in chapter 2 of the ubuntu faq quide
[06:19] <Oris> What is a BIOS feature?
[06:19] <prc> bob2, I know and I have it, but it requires libmp4v2 to read aac files
[06:19] <Toma-> Diskgrind: go with whatever your heart tells you.
[06:20] <Toma-> Oris: its a thing the bios does.
[06:20] <Diskgrind> lol
[06:20] <bob2> packman_e: you mean "the unofficial ubuntu guide"?
[06:20] <oblib> Dr_Willis: I can mount just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. fstab says :/dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    auto,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[06:20] <Diskgrind> are you trying to be funny? Toma-
[06:20] <Diskgrind> lol
[06:20] <Toma-> trying :(
[06:20] <bob2> esac: that will be a pain in the arse with a custom kernel
[06:20] <Oris> Toma - can BIOS change linux files? ahem..
[06:20] <geckosalive> hey, im not seeing a list of system requirements on the site, is there somewhere i can find a list?
[06:20] <alisher> packman_e: do you use breezy or hoary?
[06:20] <Toma-> Oris: ...possibly?
[06:21] <esac> bob2: can't i just grab an initramfs from a running system and just use it on mine?
[06:21] <packman_e> i think hoary, 5.04
[06:21] <bob2> esac: none of the modules inside it will work with your custom kernel
[06:21] <bob2> packman_e: right, ignore it then
[06:21] <Jack_B> geckosalive: system requirements for hoary?
[06:21] <prc> bob2, any suggestions?
[06:21] <alisher> packman_e: than replace breezy with hoary
[06:21] <geckosalive> ubuntu
[06:22] <Jack_B> geckosalive, try googling it
[06:22] <geckosalive> okay
[06:22] <Oris> Toma: i need to run command like echo "70:70:70:70:65:40" > path/to/trip_points file
[06:22] <bob2> prc: eh? libmp4v2-0  is in multiverse.
[06:22] <Toma-> oh you wanna mess with /proc?
[06:22] <oblib> any ideas Dr_Willis?
[06:22] <bob2> alisher: please don't give bad advice like that
[06:22] <Oris> Toma: and i can't get in linux..
[06:22] <prc> bob2, for Hoary?
[06:22] <bob2> packman_e: just don't include any backport lines at aall
[06:22] <Oris> Toma: YES!
[06:22] <Oris> Toma: :)
[06:22] <bob2> prc: no idea
[06:23] <Toma-> Oris: youre bios controls when to shutdown the CPU....
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  mine mount fine.  I dont recall having that 'auto' option in the fstab however
[06:23] <packman_e> sweet changing it to hoary seemed to work
[06:23] <bob2> packman_e: that is a mistake
[06:23] <bimberi> prc: no
[06:23] <packman_e> it is?
[06:23] <bob2> prc: dowsn't look like building the breezy source on haory would be very hard, tho
[06:23] <bob2> packman_e: yes
[06:23] <Toma-> Oris: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points
[06:23] <Oris> Toma: No-no... Hmm.. Why then it doesn't shut me down when i'm in Windows and my temp gets to 70?
[06:23] <Jack_B> what's the firewall on ubuntu called?
[06:23] <oblib> Dr_Willis: nalioth had me put it in
[06:23] <bob2> Jack_B: there isn't one, by default
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ntfs ro,user 		0	2
[06:24] <packman_e> so what should i do
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  is what i use.
[06:24] <prc> bob2, can I do that without erasing everything on my machine?
[06:24] <oblib> Dr_Willis: do you know how I could add a manual mount command later in the boot process? I think the SATA is the last thing the boot does before it's done
[06:24] <Jack_B> bob2, ok time to get ipchains then
[06:24] <bob2> prc: sure, it's like 4 commands
[06:24] <Toma-> Oris: i dont wanna give u bad advice... ive never tinkered with thermal settings. im too scared to melt my cpu. try google or someone else
[06:24] <bob2> Jack_B: no, ipchains has been dead since about 2000
[06:24] <bob2> Jack_B: try firestarter
[06:24] <alisher> packman_e: you dont need any backports to use hoary
[06:24] <Jack_B> bob2, ok thanks
[06:25] <prc> bob2, great.  I'll give it a shot
[06:25] <oblib> Dr_Willis: Do you know what the 0 2 does at the end?
[06:25] <prc> thanks
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  Hmm... not sure - could out the sata modules in the  /etc/modules file - so they get loaed earlier perhaps
[06:25] <packman_e> alisher, i was just following the quide
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  i forget. :P
[06:25] <alisher> can probably break sth or make your upgrade to breezy later dtroublesom
[06:25] <packman_e> *guide*
[06:25] <Jack_B> bob2, hehehe i got this linux book and was just reading up on ipchains
[06:25] <bob2> prc: add breezy deb-src line for multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list. sudo apt-get build-dep libmp4v2. apt-get source -b libmp4v2. install resulkting .debs
[06:25] <Oris> Toma: yeah i've done that on SuSE.. But know to change that termal_points file i need at least GET IN UBUNTU os.. Or is there a way how i can run that command from windows?
[06:26] <Oris> *now
[06:26] <oblib> Dr_Willis: "could out" ?
[06:26] <Toma-> hmmm
[06:27] <Oris> Toma: cause it shuts me down - i haven't been in OS itself at all...
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> put :P
[06:27] <Diskgrind> Where can I see my CPU load?
[06:27] <mahangu> why doesnt totem try to download the relevant dvd codes for me?
[06:27] <Diskgrind> lol
[06:27] <Toma-> Oris: do u know how hot your cpu is running?
[06:27] <Diskgrind> How can you see your cpu temp?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. why should totem download stuff for ya >:P
[06:27] <Diskgrind> or load?
[06:28] <oblib> Dr_Willis: would that be module sbp2 or sr_mod?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  several dozen tools can do that.  'sensors' from the shell shows temps.
[06:28] <Oris> Toma: right now 58 - it's about my normal temp(i know it's hot but it runs for a long time like this without problems.)
[06:28] <Toma-> hmm
[06:28] <Toma-> and it shuts down at that temp? :/
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  not sure.   put them both in the modules file. :P
[06:29] <Toma-> mine runs at 65... and the trip point on linux is 90
[06:29] <Oris> Toma: it says "Temp reached(61) this is the one i saw and then "power goes down"
[06:29] <Toma-> weird
[06:29] <oblib> Dr_Willis: those are the modules that are there. Does altering the order change things?
[06:29] <Oris> Toma: that's what i want my trip points to set on - 90's
[06:29] <Diskgrind> Dr_Willis  where do I find sensors at?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  i wouldent think so,
[06:30] <Toma-> Oris: try acpi=off at the bootline
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  its a text command. use it from the shell - if its not installed its part of the 'lm-sensors' package
[06:30] <Jack_B> why does mplayer and xmms always freeze when i try to play anything?
[06:30] <Oris> Toma: i know i need a more powerful fan or water cooling system, but there has to be a way to deal with this VIRTUALY ;)
[06:30] <Oris> Toma: what's that gonna do?
[06:31] <Oris> Toma: acpi=off
[06:31] <Diskgrind> Dr_Willis  I am unfamilliar with the shell .... Im very new to this..
[06:31] <Toma-> itll turn off acpi from the kernel so it wont care about cpu temp hopefully.
[06:31] <Oris> Toma: Hmm.. You mean at the GRUB screen?
[06:31] <Travis|H> i take it java runtime environment 1.5 isn't in the repo's either .. as its on that torrent site someone linked earlier
[06:31] <Diskgrind> thanks for the help everyone... brb
[06:31] <Toma-> yep
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  well alli can say is that google has a great many "shell tutorials" -   the shell is your friend.. its worth spending an hr or 3 goihg through a few 'bash tutorials'
[06:32] <Oris> Toma: Hmm.. :D ok, i'm gonna try it now ;)
[06:32] <Toma-> select the kernel u want, hit e, and edit the boot line and add acpi=off at the end
[06:32] <Toma-> ok good luck
[06:32] <Oris> Toma: ok, thanks ;)
[06:38] <puff> So, "deswsusp: resume mismatch: version"
[06:38] <dabaR> hi crimsun
[06:38] <puff> Er, "swsusp: resume mismatch: version"
[06:38] <crimsun> dabaR, hi
[06:39] <reter> hi dabar
[06:40] <dabaR> crimsun: what was the command to list what ports are open?
[06:40] <Oris> Toma: :(
[06:40] <Toma-> no love?
[06:40] <Oris> Toma: It says that doesn't recognize acpi=off command...
[06:40] <crimsun> dabaR, netstat -ntl
[06:40] <ryufreak> how do i mount my dvd-rw to get into cd-rom 1?
[06:40] <Toma-> u did add it to the kernel parameters line right?
[06:41] <bob2> haha, same here
[06:41] <chris_> hi, why doesn't font hinting work on ubuntu?
[06:41] <crimsun> chris_, it works great here (Breezy)
[06:41] <Oris> Toma: yes...
[06:41] <bimberi> bob2: must be a cbr thing :)
[06:41] <gigaclon> when is Breezy due to be out?
[06:41] <gigaclon> final?
[06:41] <Toma-> weird.
[06:41] <Oris> Toma: i tried to add it at the top, at the bottom, in the middle.. - no..
[06:42] <robotgeek> chris_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure font-config
[06:42] <bimberi> gigaclon: oct 13
[06:42] <chris_> i've done that
[06:42] <alisher> fontconfig!
[06:42] <Toma-> anyone? how do u turn off acpi from the kernel?
[06:43] <dabaR> Ok, the sad story is...A friend, onto whose computer I installed ubuntu, has received an email from the ISP, saying ports were blocked, due to a security concern. ports 135-139, due to "honey pot" now, I wanna see whether those ports are even open on that computer.
[06:43] <Diskgrind> Toma- Are you still here?
[06:43] <gigaclon> power management doesn't work for me
[06:43] <Toma-> yes not for long tho
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> dabaR, huh?
[06:44] <dabaR> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2603 is the output of her netstat -ntl
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> 'noacpi' as a boot time option - works for me - i think
[06:44] <Diskgrind> Toma- I just wanted to say thanks again.. I am in kde now...  cool beans!
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> windows uses those ports
[06:44] <Toma-> awesome
[06:44] <dell500> how do you make graphs in openoffice?? :)
[06:44] <Toma-> Oris: there u go, 'noacpi'
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> not tobe confused with 'noapic'
[06:44] <Toma-> stick that in kernel parameters
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> :P which is sometimes ALSO needed
[06:44] <Toma-> oic.....
[06:44] <Diskgrind> Toma- I am not used to the font sizes and will really have to find a happy medium.. though
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> edit the grub boot menu when its booted. (hit e)
[06:45] <Toma-> Diskgrind: mess around with control centre
[06:45] <dabaR> nomasteryoda|w: she uses linux exclusively almost. Ill look into how much she used windows...
[06:45] <MadpilotPPC> how can I get a PPC-based Ubuntu box to play either Real or WMA streaming audio?
[06:45] <Diskgrind> Toma-  I will have to, to be comfortable with kde
[06:45] <Oris> Ahhh... Well, then i'm probably gonna search google...
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> dabaR, well if she did not turn on a firewall
[06:45] <vladuz976> which one gets called first, /etc/profile ~/.bashrc? and which one overwrites the path then?
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> .... dabaR and uses SMB....
[06:45] <Oris> Toma: thanks though, now at least i know what to look for :)
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> since SMB opens those ports for sure
[06:46] <Toma-> Oris: probably best.
[06:46] <Toma-> no problem
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  the .bashrc will read /etc/profile if its told to do so. (like   source /etc/profile)
[06:46] <vladuz976> I changed the PATH in /etc/profile and rebooted, but it has no effect
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> dabaR, recommend Ethereal too
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  thers also the .bash_profile
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> good analysis tool there
[06:46] <crimsun> MadpilotPPC, you can still use w32codecs
[06:46] <robotgeek> crimsun: nope
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> you could just edit the .bashrc and set it how ya want for that user.
[06:46] <MadpilotPPC> crimsun, on a Mac? didn't think I could
[06:46] <Toma-> Oris: i just hope the ubuntu team havent removed the acpi=off option from the kernel or something stupid like that
[06:46] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis, so how come, edititng the PATH in /etc/profile has no effect?
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Willis, for some reason my .bash_history went by-by at work... all 3 of them
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> root's too
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> i have no clue why
[06:47] <crimsun> robotgeek, MadpilotPPC, sure. You just have to use the version directly from mplayer's Web site.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  it had an effect for me i think.. grep the files in /etc/ see what others are setting the path.
[06:47] <Oris> Toma: i think i found the way.. (Google :D) Gonna try it know ;)
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> none has access to the system
[06:47] <robotgeek> MadpilotPPC: beep has a wma plugin. realplayer,install realplayer
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> cept me
[06:47] <dabaR> nomasteryoda|w: she does not have the smb installed.
[06:47] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: you can have the w32codecs., but they dont work
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> dabaR, which distro?
[06:47] <dabaR> crimsun: Is that command supposed to list the ports that are open?
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> ubuntu?
[06:47] <dabaR> nomasteryoda|w: ubuntu, off course, hoary.
[06:47] <crimsun> dabaR, no, only ones that are listening.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> nomasteryoda|w,  Hmm... thats a 'sign' that somone may of broke into the system. deleting logs and so forth.
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> well, install guarddog and lock those ports..
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Willis, true
[06:48] <ghostdog> i pushed the reload button in the synaptic package manager, there where packages that failed can i repair therm
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Willis, base security no doubt
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> time to check the rootkit too
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> yeppers
[06:48] <MadpilotPPC> robotgeek, thanks, will try that. No way to get Totem running WMA on PPC?
[06:48] <dabaR> crimsun: I dont see any port numbers out of the output of the command, wanna point it out? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2603
[06:48] <oolon> hi all
[06:49] <robotgeek> MadpilotPPC: not that i know of
[06:49] <Draquito> hey i need plz, i am trying to install openVPN, howTo says that i need Tun/Tap module, im using linux <IP_ADDRESS> but i can't see that module doing  lsmod, anyone have some time to help me?
[06:49] <Toma-> dabaR: try nmap
[06:49] <oolon> can anyone recomend a avi to mpeg app. I wanna burn a vcd
[06:49] <MadpilotPPC> robotgeek, too bad, I like it when everything runs through one media player...
[06:49] <linner> greetings everyone ;)
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> doesn't mencoder (part of mplayer) do that?
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> or transcode
[06:50] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis, PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" change it to PATH=/opt/e17/bin:~/bin:"${PATH}" in .bash_profile if i wanna include /opt/e17/bin to my path?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  well you need to EXPORT it.
[06:50] <robotgeek> crimsun: http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README ,it says "Please note that most codecs only work on Intel x86 compatible PCs."
[06:50] <oolon> thanx nomasteryoda|w
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> i think for ine..
[06:51] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis, but then it will only stay for this terminal, next time i log in it's gone
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Normally i do a 'export PATH=$PATH:new/path/here
[06:51] <crimsun> robotgeek, yeah, it seems that wm9 won't play on ppc
[06:51] <robotgeek> MadpilotPPC: mmy personal favourite for the moment is amaro for mp3's
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> the .bash_profile gets read Only by login shells normally. the .bashrc gets read by all the starting shells.
[06:52] <Toma-> nmap os fingerprinting is the bomb :)
[06:52] <oolon> going with transcode
[06:52] <robotgeek> crimsun: you can build it if you like, apparently..http://nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/ thanks to dvd jon
[06:53] <Jack_B> where should kdeveloper be after installation?
[06:53] <ryufreak> hey oen of my apps froze, how do i close
[06:53] <ryufreak> one*
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> oolon, cool
[06:53] <Jack_B> ryufreak, kill it in console
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> there is a qt frontend and i think a gtk one
[06:53] <Toma-> Jack_B: under the development menu of your Kmenu
[06:53] <dabaR> Toma-: ok, well I do nmap -p 1-500 localhost, and I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2604 would you mind interpreting the output for me? I think it says only open ports are those listed, other ports from 1-500 are closed, correct?
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> for transcode stuff
[06:53] <Jack_B> ryufreak, type in ps -A, look for the name of the app, then type in kill [pid]
[06:53] <Jack_B> thanks toma-
[06:54] <crimsun> robotgeek, yeah, but I'm working within the framework of universe atm
[06:54] <Toma-> dabaR: what are u running on this pc?
[06:54] <robotgeek> crimsun: :)
[06:54] <bobot> Hello there... Anyone upgraded ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 using the instructions from ubuntuguide.org?
[06:54] <ryufreak> ps?
[06:54] <linner> has anyone see this error when doing a modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:54] <dabaR> Toma-: why? a ftp, ssh, and apache servers.
[06:54] <robotgeek> linner: sudo?
[06:54] <Toma-> and a mail server?
[06:54] <nalioth> bobot: ubuntuguide is poison
[06:54] <linner> robotgeek:  nope i'm in root
[06:54] <nalioth> linner: that is a common error
[06:54] <ghostdog> i pushed the reload button in the synaptic package manager, there where packages that failed can i repair therm ?
[06:54] <linner> nalioth:  it is?
[06:55] <Jack_B> ryufreak, typing ps -A will list all the programs running
[06:55] <bobot> nalioth: why?
[06:55] <MadpilotPPC> !+ubuntuguide
[06:55] <nalioth> ghostdog: you can reload all you like
[06:55] <linner> i googled it and the only thing i could come up with was in portugese
[06:55] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[06:55] <Jack_B> find out the process id for the frozen app then kill it
[06:55] <ryufreak> Jack_B: in a terminal?