[16:58] <dumb_questions> other option is use a forth drive. Clone to external, swap in both Reds, set up RAID, clone from Ext. to the new raid.
[16:59] <gillzon> i have made a dir that i want to dedicate to group. And i have test sudo chgrp groupname dir. and have also add users to the group but when i try to login on a user that is in the group they dont have accsess to the dir?! when i do ls -l  d---rw---- 2 root  group   4096 sep  5 14:53 dir?
[16:59] <reisio> dirs need +x, don't they?
[17:00] <dumb_questions> daftykins: unreal. I just realized this machine does in fact have room for that. I thought it did not. Doh! Thanks.
[17:00] <dumb_questions> makes me nervous having all three disks in there while setting up the raid, but I have a backup....
[17:01] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to do "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>" for permanent disconnection..why is it not getting disconnecting with 'nmcli con down id <id>" ?
[17:01] <reconmaster> when you log into ubuntu, does that run a login shell?
[17:02] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[17:02] <universal> ???
[17:02] <reisio> reconmaster: hrmm?
[17:02] <reisio> Schrodinger`Cat: hi
[17:02] <Venomen> hello ;)
[17:02] <reconmaster> reisio: .zprofile isn't loading when i log onto ubuntu from that local computer
[17:03] <reisio> reconmaster: are you using zsh?
[17:03] <reisio> Venomen: hi
[17:03] <reconmaster> reisio: yes
[17:03] <Schrodinger`Cat> when i do today "apt-get upgrade", i have got The following packages have been kept back:\\  python3-distupgrade ubuntu-release-upgrader-core ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt \\0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded., may i do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[17:03] <reisio> reconmaster: what makes you think you're using zsh?
[17:03] <reconmaster> reisio: .zshrc and .zshenv load and i used chsh to start using zsh
[17:03] <kostkon> Schrodinger`Cat, what version?
[17:04] <reconmaster> reisio: logging in with ssh does run .zprofile
[17:04] <Schrodinger`Cat> kostkon: im using kubuntu 13.04
[17:04] <universal> will anybody answer ?
[17:04] <kostkon> Schrodinger`Cat, ok
[17:04] <reconmaster> reisio: so now i am wondering what it is about the ubuntu login sequence i don't understand
[17:05] <Schrodinger`Cat> kostkon: usually i do dist-upgrade only to upgrade my kernel stuff...
[17:05] <reisio> reconmaster: sure what you have in .zprofile shouldn't be in .zshrc?
[17:05] <reisio> might want to talk to #zsh
[17:05] <reisio> with bash you'd source ~/.bashrc from ~/.bash_profile, for example
[17:05] <kostkon> Schrodinger`Cat, you could try it i guess
[17:06] <reconmaster> reisio: it tests for emacs --daemon and then runs the command if the server isn't running
[17:06] <universal> !wtf
[17:07] <rostam> HI all, I have installed a system with some packages. I would like to replicated exact the same image (with installed packages) to another system. I found out through dpg --get-selections I can get the list of all the installed pkgs . How could I automate this task?  thx
[17:07] <reisio> rostam: hang on, the bot lost this particular factoid
[17:08] <Schrodinger`Cat> kostkon: thanks
[17:08] <reisio> rostam: 2012 Jun 23 22:42:26 <ubottu>	To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate
[17:09] <reisio> rostam: you can also simply copy (rsync :)) an installation from one box to another, though their are potentially a few more steps
[17:09] <rostam> reisio,  thanks very much
[17:11] <rostam> !automate
[17:11] <rostam> !cloning
[17:13] <mrrcp> how do i get netflix to work with ubuntu?
[17:13] <reisio> mrrcp: look into pipelight
[17:13] <reisio> for example: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pipelight-using-silverlight-in-linux-browsers.html
[17:13] <reisio> check official repos first, though
[17:15] <Venomen> anyone got idea why my ubuntu got some limit to screen max 30sessions?
[17:15] <alperkanat> hey there.. is there a way to change the default shell of Unity's Terminal app in Ubuntu 13.04? can't find a clue on the internet..
[17:15] <reisio> alperkanat: chsh
[17:15] <alperkanat> reisio: it doesn't work
[17:15] <alperkanat> i did chsh -s /bin/zsh
[17:15] <alperkanat> however unity's terminal app doesn't honor it
[17:16] <reisio> then check its prefs
[17:16] <alperkanat> unless we open some other terminal such as terminator or something of course..
[17:16] <alperkanat> where are its prefs?
[17:16] <lorddune> Hi, can someone please tell me if I can get help here regarding missing newline errors while trying to update?
[17:19] <lorddune> When I try to update, I get error messages that 'compiz-plugins' is missing final newline. I have tried to find the corrupted?? file causing it, but cannot seem to find it so I can delete it manually.
[17:19] <chicagocharliech> On Ubuntu Studio wth Cinnamon, I get no options when I choose Screensaver/Lock settings, and I can't seem to turn off the screensaver.  I need to do this to watch movies.
[17:21] <Johnny_Linux> vlc will do it automatically
[17:21] <Jeena> Hi, is it somehow possible to upgrade python-qt from 4.9 to 4.10 on Ubuntu 12.4 (or elementary os)? It seems like it uses Qt5 which uses a newer webkit version which is able to handle CORS. The default one sadly doesn't.
[17:21] <b0x> chicagocharliech: use 'caffeine'
[17:22] <Techdude1011> Is it possible to record phone numbers without using a full blown pbx like asterisk?
[17:22] <lorddune> Hi, can anyone help me regarding missing newline errors while trying to update?
[17:22] <chicagocharliech> caffeine is a package?
[17:23] <hipsterZues>
[17:24] <daftykins> Techdude1011: that's not an ubuntu support question really.
[17:25] <leotr> hi! did somebody had chance to install xen on ubuntu?
[17:25] <kostkon> lorddune, pastebin the errors you are getting
[17:25] <ChogyDan> not a strictly ubuntu question, but I'm trying to convert an mkv to either mp4 or avi, whatever, and I want to keep english subtitles
[17:25] <kostkon> !paste
[17:25] <leotr> ChogyDan: ffmpeg, mencoder
[17:25] <NuSuey> anyone know why is ubuntu selecting the HDMI/displayport audio as default everytime I reboot? :o want to use other output as default
[17:26] <ChogyDan> leotr: im trying avconv, but either way, I don't think I know any of the tools to get it to work right (ie, keep the subs)
[17:26] <Techdude1011> daftykins:I was hoping I could just install a small bit of software and thought I'd check here. Thanks
[17:26] <jupilotropoy> how do I determine which is my root device?
[17:26] <tag2> df -h
[17:26] <leotr> mount
[17:27] <lorddune> kostkon I get this same result every time i try to update or install or even delete anything : (Reading database ... 45%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:  files list file for package 'compiz-plugins' is missing final newline E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[17:27] <tag2> df -h will list disk mount points, and disk usage
[17:29] <tag2> .nick tag
[17:30] <kostkon> lorddune, hmm, you could try:  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins --reinstall
[17:30] <lorddune> kostkon i have tried dozens or workarounds and i get the same error message every time.
[17:31] <kostkon> lorddune, ok
[17:31] <rostam> HI I would like to save new installed package and all its dependencies when I install the packages through apt-get or aptitude. How is that possible? thx
[17:32] <daftykins> rostam: as in you want to keep all the .deb files?
[17:32] <lorddune> kostkon i've tried to find the corrupted file in order to delete the lines of corrupted code, but I cannot even seem to find the file causing the troubles
[17:33] <rostam> daftykins,  yes that is exactly what I need. I later want to make a local depoistory for our lab systems which has no access to outside world.
[17:33] <kostkon> lorddune, apt-cache policy compiz-plugins
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> rostam  you can also "downoad only", without installing, i'm not sure about the dependencies, though
[17:33] <daftykins> rostam: hrmm, you'd need to keep it connected to keep all packages up to date though! :) you can find all the installed .deb files inside /var/cache/apt/archives after they've downloaded.
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> download*
[17:34] <jupilotropoy> if I wanted to point to another device as the root device, how would I go about it? rd=0s2?
[17:34] <rostam> daftykins, MonkeyDust  thanks very much
[17:35] <lorddune> kostkon compiz-plugins:   Installed: 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1   Candidate: 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2
[17:35] <kostkon> lorddune, below that
[17:35] <leotr> oh ffffuuu.... you know what? /usr/lib/xcp/lib/create_templates and all templates are there....
[17:36] <lorddune> kostkon Version table:      1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2 0         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages  *** 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 0         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status      1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 0         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[17:36] <jupilotropoy> ?
[17:36] <jupilotropoy> hello
[17:37] <kostkon> lorddune, sudo apt-get clean and try again
[17:39] <lorddune> kostkon that seems to have helped, I am doing a partial update right now
[17:40] <kostkon> lorddune, that's good
[17:40] <lorddune> kostkon i probably need to open Synaptic later to clean up some outdated package addresses
[17:40] <kostkon> lorddune, why not
[17:41] <lorddune> kostkon thanks for your help, I could have sworn I tried that command earlier but it wasn't doing anything before
[17:41] <kostkon> lorddune, no probs
[17:48] <Ubuntivity> Hello. I'm having problem with audio. I use "beep" frequently and it used to work normally. Now it gets muted after few seconds of the last audio played!
[17:48] <pandeiro> anyone using ubuntu on a nexus 4? i'm interested in switching from android (cyanogenmod) to an actual gnu/linux os and wondering what kind of experience to expect
[17:49] <Ubuntivity> pandeiro: check #ubuntu-touch
[17:52] <pandeiro> ah ok thanks
[18:00] <adzy> anyone here able to help with a zfs on ubuntu query? for some reason, the disk size reported by df -h is wrong for my zfs pool.
[18:00] <cha0z_> hi is there any way to restore thunderbird new mail notification in the task tray? they disappeared
[18:03] <Extreminador> guys my ubuntu have just stop from working... black screen (after screen saver on)
[18:04] <siva_> can i replace ubuntu with ubuntu..by installing again
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Extreminador, ctrl+alt+f1 , login then startx
[18:05] <Extreminador> BluesKaj that did not work... nothing happend when i try that
[18:05] <Extreminador> i had to press for 5/6 sec the off button
[18:05] <Extreminador> to turn on computer again
[18:05] <Extreminador> how can i know what have happen (after tunring on the computer again) ?
[18:05] <Guest61588> my problem is i installed ubuntu along with windows ..during installation i gave less sapce for it now my ubuntu is overflowing with packages..now i want to install again ubuntu in separate drive will it possible..
[18:05] <BluesKaj> Extreminador, no shell prompt ?
[18:06] <Extreminador> BluesKaj correct
[18:06] <Extreminador> even the keys (like the caps lock) were not working
[18:06] <Extreminador> the ligh of caps lock was off and even i press it was off
[18:07] <BluesKaj> leave 12G or so for / partition and larger for a /home partition if you intend to use ubuntu as a real OS
[18:07] <BluesKaj> Extreminador,^
[18:07] <Extreminador> BluesKaj yup inhave 200Gb
[18:08] <Extreminador> isn´t there any log that i can see what have happen ?
[18:08] <Extreminador> becasue for the past 5 hours (or sow) i keep only moving the mouse and disabling screen saver
[18:08] <adzy> anyone know why df -h reports the total size of a volume the same as the free space, on a zfs volume? no matter how much data i chuck on there, the total size just decreases in line with the free space
[18:08] <Extreminador> and i have only in active the program called blowfish
[18:08] <Juiffi> Hello!
[18:09] <Juiffi> Could you gyus help me out?
[18:09] <Extreminador> Juiffi just fire away and wait for reply
[18:09] <bekks> adzy: Thats intended for ZFS. Use zfs list instead.
[18:10] <tozen> Juiffi: what the matter?
[18:11] <Juiffi> I have problem installing Ubuntu. The installer freezes pretty much right away if I'm going to X. The non-graphical installer gets to "pci_bus 0000:00: No busn resource found for root bus...
[18:11] <Juiffi> Then it freezes. Tried with nomodeset and acpi=off
[18:11] <Juiffi> No avail and I'm out of tricks
[18:12] <Juiffi> Also, the install media passes md5
[18:12] <adzy> bekks, zfs list doesn't give me the total size, but that's besides the real issue. when i map my samba share to windows, it does the same thing - the total size decreases. i know three people who have a similar config and theirs reports total size and free space correctly
[18:12] <bekks> adzy: Define "real size" in terms of ZFS.
[18:13] <Juiffi> AMD FX-8120, Kingston SSDNow 60 gb,  Asus m4a89gtd pro/usb3 Mobo
[18:13] <Juiffi> Nvidia GTX 480
[18:13] <gdahlman> A quick question, is there any chance that the cloud repo will be fixed for 12.04 and grizzly or is it mostly in "legacy" status.  Several of the depencancies are wrong and missing for 2013.1.2
[18:14] <Monday> how do you make linux access Microsoft Exchange Webmail without any flaws?
[18:14] <Odins> hello
[18:14] <adzy> bekks: I mean total usable space after formatting and redundancy. i have 15TB raw, which is 13.6TB after formatting and 10.7TB after raidz1. I expect total size to remain at 10.7TB while free space decreases
[18:14] <gdahlman> Monday: firefox and OWA 2003+
[18:14] <adzy> but instead, both decrease together
[18:15] <Soelen> hello, I try to run a firefox sync server, and I get all the time the same error on an ubuntu 12.04 system:
[18:15] <bekks> adzy: Thats the wrong approach, since there are things like quotas, reservations, etc. for ZFS.
[18:15] <Juiffi> I tired also installing debian and Linux Mint. They freezed also
[18:15] <Soelen> bin/paster serve development.ini
[18:15] <Soelen> bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[18:15] <Juiffi> I'll get a smoke, BRB
[18:15] <Soelen> what am I doing wrong?
[18:16] <Odins> u loking for update to firefox stable?
[18:17] <gmachine_24> I am building a media server using ubuntu server lts. Any reason I should not install the os on a usb drive, say 32GB, and run the computer from that?
[18:17] <adzy> bekks: i've not set anything up in terms of quotas / reservations. also, within the same pool, i'm getting different reported sizes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6084544/
[18:18] <Odins> hello
[18:18] <Juiffi> So, any ideas?
[18:18] <Odins> can any one see me
[18:18] <msbrown> gmachine_24: speed of access?
[18:19] <Soelen> Odins: yup
[18:19] <Odins> great tyv
[18:19] <Odins> tyvm
[18:20] <gdahlman> adzy: on solaris pool reporting is the pool free space, not the filesystem free space
[18:20] <Odins> ive installed ubuntu 12.04 pinguy and on my pulseaudio i only have left speaker worker i updated pulseaudio to 3.0 still only 1 speaker on laptop
[18:21] <adzy> gdahlman, but the total size shouldn't change, should it?
[18:21] <Guest4710> Guys, I cant resolve anything :(
[18:21] <casiub> hi word
[18:22] <Coterabeth> is pulseaudio as horrible as everyone says it is?
[18:22] <HellMind0> root@ubuntu:/etc# nslookup google.com ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[18:22] <gdahlman> adzy, yes the inflated pool size should stay the same, the filesystem space may change if you are using compression or dedupe
[18:22] <Gegsite> Q: I have 13.04 , 32 bit, and I  cant install librecad
[18:22] <HellMind0> root@ubuntu:/etc# cat /etc/resolv.conf # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:22] <Odins> yes pulse sucks
[18:22] <kostkon> Coterabeth, used to be
[18:22] <HellMind0> in nsswitch hosts:          files dns
[18:23] <HellMind0> so whats wrong!
[18:23] <adzy> gdahlman, that's the problem. the total size is decreasing.  i don't have dedup on, how do i check compression?
[18:23] <HellMind0> dig @<IP_ADDRESS> google.com  gives no result
[18:23] <Gegsite> librecad : depends on: libqt4-qt3support (>= 4:4.5.3)
[18:23] <gdahlman> adzy: the total size will decrease, it includes the partiy space too.  but sorry I have only used zfs on solaris
[18:24] <HellMind0> ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[18:24] <HellMind0> root@ubuntu:/etc# ping <IP_ADDRESS> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_req=1 ttl=58 time=32.5 ms
[18:25] <Susning>  I've tried setting working file share between Win7 and Linux-machine now several times last 24 hours.  Anyone that feel motivated to try to help me with this one. Tried googling but that didn't make it more clear this time :p
[18:26] <gmachine_24> msbrown: I suppose you are right on that point. I guess I can't see buying a 1TB drive when all it will do is run an os which is <10gb
[18:26] <adzy> gdalhman, is that to say that this (http://imgur.com/a/DLAfR) is completely expected? Because I have a friend using zfs pools, and it doesn't happen to him
[18:26] <gdahlman> adzy: the general rule is to use zpool list to see if you are going to need more space and zfs list to see who is using more space
[18:28] <gdahlman> adzy: yes...things get weird because zfs reports the total size used, including metadata.  ext4 shows you only the size of the data
[18:28] <msbrown> gmachine_24: I've nevere tried to run a server off a USB stick for an extended time; if the server is incredibly "Stable" (no need fo r in-memory processes nver change) then *maybe*
[18:29] <msbrown> gmachine_24: no need for swap, never any changes in running processes is what I meant to say there
[18:29] <gdahlman> adzy: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E26502_01/html/E29007/gbbti.html#gentextid-11131
[18:31] <bibi23> hi, when trying to ssh to my server, I have "WARNING: POSSIBLE DNS SPOOFING DETECTED! " and it fails, it tells me to run a command "ssh-keygen -f ...", I run it and try again but I still hae this message, what can I do?
[18:31] <gdahlman> adzy: if you follow the link about space accounting it will explain how zfs doesn't pre-allocate it's metadata space, that eats room too.
[18:31] <Juiffi> Anybody? I'm beign pretty desperate
[18:32] <bibi23> it occurs since I've changed server ip for my domain
[18:33] <gmachine_24> msbrown: ok, thanks for the info. btw, you've got a lovely daughter
[18:35] <adzy> gdahlman, okay, had a skim read, i'm assuming there's nothing i can do to change the behaviour... the thing that's bugging me is that i know people whose total size doesn't shrink the way mine does, even though they're using zfs pools. that says to me that there's something different with my config but i can't tell what it could be.
[18:35] <ChogyDan> Juiffi: what version are you using?
[18:36] <Juiffi> 13.04
[18:37] <adzy> gdahlman, from the link, "If any ZFS properties, such as compression and quotas, are set on file systems, reconciling the space consumption that is reported by df might be difficult." afaik, i've not set any compression or quotas.
[18:37] <ChogyDan> Juiffi: and no livecd works for you?
[18:38] <Gegsite> anyone have problems with librecad/qcad install?
[18:39] <Juiffi> sry
[18:39] <Juiffi> Did'nt realize PM's go to tab in webchat
[18:43] <_kas> could any one help with a video issue i am having after upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10?  I get an error after bootup that the system in running in low-graphics mode and it wont load a graphical login
[18:43] <_kas> Intel HD 4000 video card
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> _kas, 13.10 is on the #ubuntu+1 channel
[18:44] <_kas> thx
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[18:44] <justaguy> goodevening all \o/
[18:45] <Ubuntivity> good evening justaguy
[18:47] <mrrcp> whats a good firewall to install for ubuntu
[18:47] <kostkon> !firewall | mrrcp
[18:50] <caimeo> .
[19:02] <SuperLag> Is there an easy way to get natural scrolling enabled in Unity?
[19:02] <Henix_Aurorus> TODAY IS GOING TO BE FUN :D
[19:02] <Henix_Aurorus> ...and of course I'm being completely sarcastic.
[19:02] <tozen> Henix_Aurorus: CapsLock ?
[19:02] <mxflavor> hi everyone
[19:02] <Henix_Aurorus> Sorry
[19:03] <tozen> mxflavor: hi
[19:03] <mxflavor> i've got a problem with vsftpd
[19:04] <mxflavor> i've got a local ubuntu machine ( xbmc install ) , and a windows 8 desktop... when i tranfser a file with filezille to my ubuntu box, it has slow speed with ftp :(
[19:05] <Henix_Aurorus> Random question: what is the "xubuntux" in package names for?
[19:07] <mxflavor> Henix_Aurorus: : other desktop then regular ubuntu
[19:08] <Henix_Aurorus> Uh... k?
[19:08] <Henix_Aurorus> I guess?
[19:08] <Henix_Aurorus> (I have no idea what that means. :S)
[19:09] <Juiffi> LiveCD didn't work. Still havin problems
[19:10] <ergotron> Should I upgrade from Warty Hedge Hog?
[19:10] <Pici> !flavors | Henix_Aurorus
[19:10] <mxflavor> Henix_Aurorus: ubuntu uses unity ... it used to be gnome... xubuntu uses x. i believe
[19:10] <tozen> Juiffi: what the matter?
[19:11] <Juiffi> Still the same, Installer and LiveCDs freeze. Only blinkin' cursor on the screen. nomodeset and acpi=off have no effect
[19:11] <Juiffi> md5 correct
[19:12] <Juiffi> Text-mode halts to line pci_bus 0000:00: No busn resource found for root bus
[19:12] <tozen> Juiffi: which distro do u trying?
[19:12] <Juiffi> Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Mint, Debian
[19:12] <Juiffi> All of them fail
[19:14] <tasslehoff> Running 1680x1050 on my retina mbp, and text/icons look fuzzy. Does it matter if I run noveau or the nvidia driver? Anything other tricks? On the native resolution it looks beautiful, but small :)
[19:14] <mrrcp> your talking your side bar?
[19:14] <mrrcp> launcher?
[19:15] <tozen> Juiffi: what i would do is to check memory and hdd structure. what do u have desktop or notebook?
[19:15] <Juiffi> desktop
[19:16] <Juiffi> memtest seemed fine for short 30 min check. Guess i'll let it run over night when I go to sleep. Not yet though
[19:16] <tozen> try to disconnect any devices from it, leaving videocard only
[19:16] <tasslehoff> text and icons in e.g. a firefox window
[19:17] <Juiffi> Hmm. I'm  thinking that the videocard is the culprit. Nvidia gtx480
[19:17] <tozen> * videocard and keyboard
[19:18] <Juiffi> I tried with on-board vga, but same crash
[19:18] <Guest12338> ok
[19:19] <Juiffi> ATM i'm on the computer i'm planning to put Linux. Windows sfc showed no problems
[19:19] <OnionNet> sfc?
[19:19] <strixUK> i'd like to keep system config plus my custom scripts in an svn or git repo, but since neither of those deal with permissions or ownership, i need to add something else.  there's etckeeper, but a) i'm not sure i can version stuff in /usr/local/bin, and b) i don't want to version everything in /etc.
[19:19] <Juiffi> Disk check tool
[19:19] <tozen> Juiffi: there on ubuntu.com/releases is alternate version is available as well it's compiled for similare hardware conflicts you have try it
[19:19] <strixUK> anybody recommend a suitable deployment or config versioning tool?
[19:20] <Juiffi> Ok, DLing the alt
[19:20] <Juiffi> I'll report in soon
[19:20] <strixUK> (i also want to use this repo to replicate the important stuff onto a backup server
[19:20] <OnionNet> juiffi, what flavour of linux.. ubuntu i hope
[19:21] <BluesKaj> Juiffi, run dkms status , see if your video driver is correct
[19:21] <Juiffi> Can't run anything. It doesn't boot
[19:21] <BluesKaj> no tty ?
[19:23] <Vall99> Hi everyone!
[19:23] <Juiffi> Is 13.04 available as alternate?
[19:23] <tozen> Juiffi: i dont know, pal
[19:23] <Henix_Aurorus> What do I need to build a kernel module?
[19:24] <Vall99> Can anyone recomend  a good hardening guide for ubuntu?
[19:25] <SuperLag> that's interesting.... the alternate install images seem to be gone
[19:26] <Vall99> if it is server better!!!
[19:26] <Vall99> thanks!
[19:26] <strixUK> Vall99: not specifically, but two things i always do with a new box: disable password authentication in ssh (pubkey only) and turn off any services i don't need (notably mail and anything to do with RPC)
[19:26] <strixUK> Vall99: by mail, i should have said pop3/imap
[19:26] <Vall99> Thanks strixUK
[19:27] <strixUK> be sure that you can shell into your machine with a pubkey before you disable pw auth
[19:27] <Vall99> Il; take a look at those two!!
[19:27] <strixUK> Vall99: use netstat -ltpn to see what services are running
[19:28] <Vall99> Im building a server at home and wanna harden it a bit!
[19:28] <strixUK> are you behind a nat, or is this machine going to have a public IP?
[19:28] <strixUK> (nat/router/whatev)
[19:28] <Vall99> The services are the ones default so it is recently installed
[19:29] <Vall99> Behind a NAT so its going to be at my house at first!
[19:29] <strixUK> as long as you're NAT'd you're pretty safe anyway
[19:30] <Vall99> Great to know !!
[19:30] <ChogyDan> anyone know how to convert a video to xbox 360 with avidemux?
[19:30] <ibase> XDC SEND ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[19:30] <Vall99> but i should open some ports so i can access it from the outside no?
[19:30] <ibase> XDC SEND ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[19:31] <strixUK> Vall99: you'd have to forward a port from your nat router
[19:31] <Vall99> I was thinking of building a  firewall too but if it is safe behind NAT...
[19:31] <john_john> ChogyDan: In what format is the video now?
[19:32] <ChogyDan> john_john: mk4
[19:32] <strixUK> Vall99: oh yeah, check out UFW as well (ubuntu's default firewall).  be warned: it doesn't open any ports by default, so if you're admining remotely, enable port 22 /before/ you enable ufw
[19:32] <ChogyDan> i mean, mkv john_john
[19:32] <john_john> ChogyDan: And what formats does xbox support?
[19:32] <strixUK> turning on the firewall can't hurt
[19:32] <ChogyDan> john_john: I wish I knew.  not mkv  :P
[19:33] <ChogyDan> and not srt, but I've got that sorted
[19:33] <john_john> ChogyDan: AVI should probably work or the format that windows uses WMV?
[19:34] <Vall99> strixUK thats what i was thinking of, cause i can setup a couple of arduinos i have resting at work!!
[19:34] <Vall99> I write down about the port 22 great thanks!!
[19:35] <john_john> ChogyDan: What problems are you facing with avidemux? mkv is just a container format. you can extract the video and audio content from an mkv fairly easy I believe
[19:35] <Vall99> If i have more doubts ill come back!Thanks again strixUK
[19:36] <ChogyDan> john_john: well, I have it loaded in avidemux, I save the file ok, but I don't know which format to pick.  When I try to play it on xbox, it says it is an unsupported format
[19:36] <ChogyDan> Im trying random ones, currently on xvid + aac
[19:36] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, try .avi
[19:36] <Ben64> ChogyDan: thats really not an ubuntu issue, google should have some answers for you
[19:37] <john_john> ChogyDan: Pick AVI, I'm almost 100% xbox will be able to play it.
[19:37] <john_john> BEn64: It is, since he's looking for ubuntu software to convert his media.
[19:37] <mr-rich> Anyone else having issues playing DVDs in 13.04?
[19:37] <john_john> or "software that works on ubuntu"
[19:37] <Ben64> john_john: he's looking for the format type for xbox, not even related
[19:37] <john_john> ben64: nope, he wanted to know how to convert mkv ;)
[19:38] <xangua> !anyone | mr-rich
[19:38] <Ben64> john_john: not really, but thats still offtopic here
[19:38] <john_john> bah
[19:38] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[19:39] <john_john> lets scare away beginners by being hostile
[19:39] <Ben64> we can't just answer any question involving ubuntu in any way, there are channels for that
[19:39] <ChogyDan> john_john: don't worry, im not a begginner.  But you are correct, I am really trying to find anything that will work on ubuntu
[19:39] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: Yes. and libdvd and mediubuntu ... Tried everything I could find on Google ...
[19:40] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, what's the dvd , perhaps it's corrupted
[19:40] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: Ran VLC from CLI says "error cracking ..."
[19:41] <BluesKaj> DRM ?
[19:41] <xarph> I'm trying to do a hands off install of ubuntu 12.04 with preseeding. the preseed works fine except that it hangs for about 10 minutes on `anna net-retriever default`. I tcpdumped and during that whole time the thing is just sitting there trying to RARP itself. Any suggestions?
[19:41] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: "How To Train Your Dragon". Plays fine on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS
[19:42] <xarph> just realized this should be in #ubuntu-server sorry
[19:42] <john_john> ChogyDan: AVI should definitely work on Xbox, if you're having problems with avidemux perhaps try mkv_merge
[19:43] <Ben64> john_john: avi is not a format, its a container. its still an xbox issue, not for #ubuntu
[19:44] <Marlenee> how i hash file in ubuntu
[19:45] <john_john> ben64: And so is MKV... Looking for software for doing specific things in ubuntu is prohibited? lol k...
[19:45] <bekks> Marlenee: which hash?
[19:45] <adzy> gdahlman, thanks for your help earlier. i think i've figured out how to get it to show up right. the problem was that i was using multiple sub-pools (/beatrix/[sub pool]). I eliminate them and replaced them with standard directories instead and so far it seems to be reporting the total size as 10.7TB, while the free space declines
[19:45] <adzy> *eliminated
[19:46] <Juiffi_> Alt install crashed also. To those who weren't here: Ubuntu, Mint and debian crash on installer. No matter whether I use text-mode or GUI. Only blank screen with blinking cursor. Nomodeset and acpi=off have no effect.
[19:46] <Ben64> john_john: why is it so hard for you to understand that helping someone play videos on an xbox 360 is not an ubuntu issue
[19:46] <Marlenee> sha512 and sha265 and md5
[19:46] <Juiffi_> On text mode tha last loaded line is pci_bus 000:00 no busn resource found for root bus...
[19:46] <bekks> Marlenee: sha512sum, sha256sum, md5sum
[19:46] <john_john> and that's why I went back to using windows.
[19:47] <adzy> Juiffi, does your system work on other OSes? I'm beginning to think you might have a hardware problem. memtest?
[19:47] <Juiffi_> I'm running Win7 ATM
[19:47] <Juiffi_> no problem
[19:47] <Juiffi_> Did a short 30min memtest, I will leave it over night
[19:48] <Juiffi_> but for now, i'm gonna find out could it be else
[19:48] <bekks> Juiffi_: sounds like a mainboard problem more likely.
[19:48] <Marlenee> bekks: thanks
[19:49] <Juiffi_> Mobo is ASUS M4A89GDT pro/usb3
[19:49] <Juiffi_> Latest BIOS
[19:49] <bekks> Juiffi_: still might be faulty.
[19:49] <Juiffi_> Possibly. Had no errors on WIn7. Which makes me quite stirred
[19:50] <Juiffi_> It could be faulty, but windows works, so no point getting a new one
[19:50] <bekks> Juiffi_: win7 is a totally different OS. And did you check pci device drivers, etc?
[19:51] <meganerd> Juiffi_: what are the symptoms?
[19:51] <Juiffi_> Yes, im quite aware of that. How do i check pci drivers on an OS which does not boot?
[19:51] <bekks> meganerd: "no root device found for pci bus 0" :)
[19:51] <killer_b> beep 3 1
[19:51] <bekks> Juiffi_: I am talking about Windows.
[19:52] <Plouj> did busybox-syslogd replace rsyslog in Raring?
[19:52] <adzy> Juiffi_: quick one - are you trying to boot an installed copy of ubuntu, or are you unable to boot the livecd?
[19:52] <Juiffi_> All drivers installed and working
[19:52] <Juiffi_> Both, neither worked
[19:52] <bekks> Juiffi_: Did you check the logs?
[19:53] <Juiffi_> where do i find them?
[19:53] <bekks> Juiffi_: In Windows.
[19:53] <Juiffi_> Could you point me in right direction?
[19:53] <Juiffi_> Like Windows-related logs or Linux logs?
[19:54] <bekks> Juiffi_: Windows like "windows logs"...
[19:54] <bekks> Juiffi_: The main question is wether you can see any sign of a hardware problem in Windows.
[19:55] <meganerd> Juiffi_: doesn't sound like a bad motherboard, what is the boot media you are using (USB, cd/dvd)?
[19:55] <Wyzer> Isn't Windows a hardware problem?
[19:55] <Juiffi_> USB, checked the checksums
[19:55] <adzy> Wyzer, Windows is software :p
[19:55] <meganerd> Wyzer: No, Windows is just a failure of imagination
[19:55] <Juiffi_> alse tried 2 sticks
[19:55] <Juiffi_> and usb hdd
[19:55] <adzy> Juiffi_ might there be some PCI related BIOS config that you could tweak? just guessing here, a bit of trial and error playing with your bios settings might uncover something
[19:55] <Juiffi_> Nothing in logs, only directX install failure
[19:55] <meganerd> Juiffi_: how did you put the install on to those media?
[19:56] <bekks> Juiffi_: You are experiencing a PCI bus error, you dont have to check every distro or every bootable medium.
[19:56] <Juiffi_> Universal USB insteller
[19:56] <bekks> Juiffi_: Which logs did you check in particular?
[19:56] <Juiffi_> the ones in C:\Windows\Logs
[19:56] <artcurmudgeon> my ubuntu box was getting ssl errors when I connected to a linux server, they replaced the expired certs, but I am still getting the errors, is there anyway to remove the ssl cache from the command line?
[19:56] <bekks> Juiffi_: Forget them. Windows has a event facility.
[19:56] <Juiffi_> ah
[19:57] <Juiffi_> forgot
[19:57] <Juiffi_> sry will check now
[19:58] <jdoles> How do I enable tap to click with a Synaptics touchpad?
[19:58] <meganerd> Juiffi_: I really dislike the AMD motherboards, I have a 990 chipset  based machine at home that mostly works (the CPU still runs hotter than I think it should).
[20:00] <Juiffi_> Event viewer shows loads of event, but I can't find any HW issues. Mainly problems with Steam and Virtualbox
[20:00] <Juiffi_> Could be the RAMS
[20:00] <Juiffi_> or not, dunno
[20:00] <Juiffi_> im lost :F
[20:00] <s4mu> hey is ubuntu open source ?
[20:01] <bekks> Juiffi_: No, could not be the RAMs :) Very, very unlikely.
[20:02] <Wyzer> Juiffi: At what point is it crashing the installer?  I am a Noob, but mine crashed when trying to "download" updates during the install.  Had an IP problem.
[20:03] <Juiffi_> It crashes pretty much the first second I start the installer/LiveCD
[20:03] <Juiffi_> PCI_bus failure possibly
[20:03] <Juiffi_> or so it seems
[20:03] <Juiffi_> best guess sofar'
[20:03] <adzy> (repeated) Juiffi_ might there be some PCI related BIOS config that you could tweak? just guessing here, a bit of trial and error playing with your bios settings might uncover something
[20:03] <meganerd> Juiffi_: I had to do the install from a usb dvd drive on my amd
[20:03] <bekks> Juiffi_: Not possibly. Thats what the error message tells you. Why do you try to find another reason?
[20:04] <meganerd> Juiffi_: you wouldn't happen to have the latest BIOS installed?
[20:04] <Juiffi_> I do
[20:04] <Wyzer> Juiffi: I missed it, are you installing from USB (Flash) or DVD/CD?
[20:04] <matubaum> Hello. I can't run virtualbox. I've installed it with the offical repos, but I don't have this needed module on my kernel : /dev/vboxdrv . How can I install id?
[20:04] <Juiffi_> I'll head on to bios now. Looking for something to tweak
[20:04] <Juiffi_> im back soon
[20:05] <Juiffi_> oh, I have Android, so i can post while in bios
[20:05] <Juiffi_> :D
[20:05] <bekks> matubaum: Which "official" repo did you use?
[20:05] <meganerd> matubaum: /etc/init/vboxdrv setup
[20:05] <apes> I have some configs in /etc/network/interfaces.d/vips.conf that don't seem to be loaded on reboot. I'm running 12.04 LTS. Any advice?
[20:05] <meganerd> matubaum: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[20:06] <meganerd> Juiffi_: do you have an optical drive in this machine?
[20:06] <Juiffi_> And old non-burning DVD
[20:06] <Juiffi_> grabbed from old MAC G4
[20:06] <mongi> Hey guys, I got a kind of problem with Ubuntu in my laptop... I mean, everytime I'm using Ubuntu on it the fan runs really fast and the laptop gets really hot... While in Windows this doesn't happens... Why is that? Is there a way to solve it?
[20:07] <bekks> mongi: Clean the fan and the cooler.
[20:07] <matubaum> meganerd: I don't have /etc/init.d/vboxdrv, but I do have /etc/init.d/virtualbox
[20:07] <meganerd> mongi: you wouldn't happen to have an AMD/ATI or nVidia GPU in this laptop ?
[20:07] <bekks> matubaum: Then uninstall virtualbox again, and use the official packages from www.virtualbox.org
[20:07] <meganerd> matubaum: How did you install virtualbox?
[20:07] <xniu> test
[20:07] <mongi> bekks: but this doesn't happens on the same laptop running Windows
[20:08] <mongi> meganerd: it's a AMD/ATI
[20:08] <Marlenee> ?weechat
[20:08] <Marlenee> !weechat
[20:08] <matubaum> meganerd: sudo aptitude install virtualbox
[20:08] <ChogyDan> mongi: are you using the latest version?
[20:08] <bekks> matubaum: Uninstall it and install the latest official version as told above.
[20:08] <matubaum> bekks: It might be a good idea
[20:08] <roiha1> Hello. Its me from android. Going to bios now
[20:08] <roiha1> Juiffi
[20:09] <mongi> ChogyDan: yes, 13.04
[20:09] <matubaum> bekks: I will
[20:09] <roiha1> My nick seems broken
[20:10] <Wyzer> No, you just need to "GHOST" it, you are still logged as Juiffi
[20:10] <xniu> test
[20:10] <ubuntu> hej
[20:11] <roiha1> Nah, let it be for now.
[20:11] <Guest31681> poland
[20:11] <ChogyDan> mongi: just file a bug against the kernel.  Someone may be able to point you the right direction
[20:12] <mongi> ChogyDan: where can I do that?
[20:12] <ChogyDan> mongi: `ubuntu-bug linux`
[20:13] <roiha1> Tried enablin plug'n'pray (pun intended) OS. Didnt help
[20:13] <mongi> ChogyDan: is that a irc-channel?
[20:13] <ChogyDan> mongi: it's a terminal command
[20:13] <meganerd> roiha1: So, on my AMD machine, I had to set my RAM timings to 1600Mhz (even though the RAM was rated much higher), I also enabled legacy boot (instead of UEFI only)
[20:14] <mongi> ChongyDan: will try that, thanks
[20:14] <Wyzer> Juiffi: Have you tried installing from a USB (Flash) drive?  It could just be a corrupted burn.
[20:14] <SierraAR> What's the name of that program that can put text, graphs, cpu/memory/usage stats, etc on your desktop?
[20:14] <adzy> Wyzer, he's already done all that
[20:14] <roiha1> I only have used usb
[20:14] <Wyzer> adzy: Tried reading up, but missed it. sorry
[20:14] <meganerd> SierraAR: conky
[20:15] <SierraAR> meganerd: Thanks
[20:15] <meganerd> SierraAR: np
[20:15] <adzy> Wyzer, i only know cause i saw it when i popped in a few hours ago :p
[20:15] <adzy> i wouldnt ask you to scroll that far up
[20:16] <roiha1> Its old mobo. Only has bios. No uefi.
[20:16] <meganerd> roiha1: I might give unetbootin a try
[20:17] <meganerd> roiha1: come to think of it, that was what I ended up doing (I had left my USB dvd at work by accident)
[20:18] <roiha1> Unetbootin?
[20:18] <meganerd> roiha1: what are your boot options, I also had to enable some USB boot options (which did not work out of the box on my AMD board)
[20:18] <meganerd> roiha1: makes usb drives bootable from ISOs
[20:19] <meganerd> roiha1: has a Windows version.  None of my computers has had an optical drive for years now (I keep a usb dvd/br drive around)
[20:20] <roiha1> is it really different than universal usb creator?
[20:20] <roiha1> The distro menus show up correctly
[20:20] <roiha1> So i think that is not the problem
[20:20] <meganerd> roiha1: no idea, I just never had great success with the pendrive linux site
[20:21] <roiha1> Hmm. Used to work for me.
[20:21] <roiha1> Im starting to blame AMD.
[20:21] <meganerd> roiha1: I can only tell you what I have used successfully.
[20:22] <roiha1> The chipset might be just all f*cked up.
[20:22] <meganerd> roiha1: I have been disappointed with my 990+8350
[20:22] <meganerd> roiha1: chipset is definately not as good as the Intel offerings
[20:22] <roiha1> I know. Sry, didnt mean to offend
[20:22] <roiha1> Yeah, im starting to agree
[20:22] <meganerd> roiha1: no offense taken, I know exactly how frustrating this can be
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> roiha1, we don 't swear here
[20:23] <roiha1> Ok. Sry for that too
[20:23] <romulobr> can you point me to a simple secure way to run one specific bash script as root without asking for credentials?
[20:23] <roiha1> Im grabbing smoke now. Hope it eases the frustration
[20:23] <adzy> romulobr - put it in root's crontab
[20:23] <meganerd> romulobr: use sudo, put an entry in /etc/sudoers that does not ask for a password for this script.  Use visudo to make this change.
[20:24] <matubaum> bekks: Thanks I did that and solved my problem!! So the final solution was to install using .deb file from Virtualbox site.
[20:24] <bekks> matubaum: The solution was "use the official package" ;)
[20:24] <romulobr> thanks meganerd
[20:25] <matubaum> bekks: Yes that's right!! Thanks!
[20:25] <cyphase> when i mount an hfs+ volume in ubuntu, all i see is Desktop DB and Desktop DF. any ideas?
[20:27] <theTroy> A complete noob here, I created a new user on remote ubuntu server via SSH. When I login to that user (via ssh again), I cannot seem to use TAB to auto-fill commands, and up/down arrows do not work to bring up the previous commands.
[20:28] <roiha1> Not too much pci related options in bios
[20:28] <xniu> who #ubuntu
[20:28] <meganerd> romulobr: YOURNAME ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/somescript.sh
[20:28] <roiha1> Only the pnp on/off
[20:28] <wolrah> theTroy: sounds like your new user either has the wrong shell set or has a messed up config file for said shell
[20:28] <xniu> who #xniu
[20:28] <wolrah> try echo $SHELL as the user, I think that'll tell you what's running
[20:28] <wolrah> not on a *nix atm
[20:29] <theTroy> wolrah: just used standard useradd command, and then created the home folder for the user
[20:29] <lukasstr> hay there, i've some really big/stupid problem ... had some problems with w-lan (not really interesting)... ended in typing dd if=/dev/sdb of=someimage bs=512K ... what i did'nt know my pc mountet the usb first, so my main harddisk was dev/sdb and the usb i wanted to write to was dev/sda .... ist there some way to get my data back?
[20:29] <theTroy> wolrah: /bin/sh
[20:29] <roiha1> Bios seems to assing IRQ fine
[20:29] <wolrah> theTroy: you want /bin/bash or another advanced shell
[20:29] <theTroy> wolrah: how do I change that?
[20:30] <meganerd> romulobr: start here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39281/how-to-run-an-application-using-sudo-without-a-password
[20:30] <wolrah> theTroy: edit their entry in /etc/passwd, or there's probably a way to do it with useradd or similar but I don't kno
[20:30] <SierraAR> So I was updating my xubuntu system. The update manager locked up then crashed halfway through, and now I receive this error whenever I try running updates - 'The package system is broken' - http://pastebin.com/BpnjWbGT
[20:30] <meganerd> lukasstr: I how long did you let that command run for?
[20:31] <roiha1> Maybe it's just the bios. Im running FX-8120 on AM3 (non-plus). Maybe it's just all duct tape and bubblegum and barely work for windows.
[20:31] <SierraAR> I did run apt-get install -f, but that gave more or less the same error and didnt fix anything
[20:31] <theTroy> wolrah: thank you a lot, worked
[20:31] <lukasstr> meganerd: .. just needed 1or 2 seconds (ssd)
[20:31] <ChogyDan> SierraAR: did you install a ppa or anything?
[20:32] <wolrah> lukasstr: if you had "if" as /dev/sdb, then it was *READING* from sdb not writing, and nothing should have been harmed at all if "of" was a file
[20:32] <Juiffi> Back on PC
[20:32] <SierraAR> ChogyDan: Not recently; A few months ago, yes, and I've had no issue updating until now
[20:32] <wolrah> theTroy: np, glad it was that simple
[20:33] <lukasstr> oh sry switched the commands it was if=theimage.img of=/dev/sdb
[20:33] <Juiffi> Could it be the BIOS for FX-8120 on non-plus AM3 mobo?
[20:33] <wolrah> lukasstr: ok, in that case you overwrote the first X bytes of the hard drive, how bad that is depends on the value of X
[20:34] <lukasstr> i think 10 mb
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> SierraAR, Could be as simple as a repo pro lem, always paste all the text. i had a repo problem 2 days ago, try changing it.
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> Problem
[20:34] <ChogyDan> SierraAR: you could try installing the libhx509-5-heimdal, see if you get a better error
[20:34] <lukasstr> wolrah: when i boot via live cd i've a partition with 16.8MB
[20:34] <meganerd> lukasstr: so it is likely that the partition info is gone.  You could use a utility like formost to go through the drive looking for files
[20:34] <SierraAR> wilee-nilee: All the text from what?
[20:35] <meganerd> lukasstr: the bad news is that you lose filesystem metadata, like filenames
[20:35] <wolrah> lukasstr: that's gone beyond the no damage point for sure, depending on your filesystem you may have a lot of impending pain or just a few MB of lost system files
[20:36] <wolrah> agree with meganerd though, you need emergency recovery tools at this point
[20:36] <meganerd> lukasstr: you would also need to use a bootable dvd or usb.  I am a fan of systemrescuecd
 Anyone got 2 mins to help me with a small bind issue (server)
[20:36] <meganerd> lukasstr: because it was an SSD, you can do a lot of damage in 2 seconds
[20:37] <meganerd> lukasstr: anywhere from 200 megabytes to about a gig
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> SierraAR, run a update from the cli in general to check whats up when things error
[20:37] <SierraAR> ChogyDan: Here's the output from trying to install the package, and from trying to run install -f - http://pastebin.com/gteDsqsM
[20:38] <lukasstr> yeah i'm already on a live linux write now and writing with you ;) 4gb
[20:38] <meganerd> lukasstr: also, SSDs present a fake disk layout (they do randomization under the hood), making recovery even harder.
[20:38] <SierraAR> wilee-nilee: That's 'sudo apt-get upgrade' right?
[20:38] <apes> Adding "source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*" to /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work, despite the man page for interfaces saying it should. Any advice?
[20:39] <solaruin> im looking for a virus scanner i can test files with before moving to a windows OS. anyone know of a decent one? im having little luck with google
[20:39] <lukasstr> meganerd: so i just install foremost via live-usb?
[20:39] <meganerd> lukasstr: you also need some external storage device to put the recovered files
[20:39] <SierraAR> solaruin: I know this isn't quite what you're looking for, but have you tried setting up a virtual machine running a windows os and checking files with that?
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> SierraAR, generally I always run dist-upgrade
[20:40] <Juiffi> Guess my Linux days are over for a while. Atleast until I can get a decent mobo/get Intel setup
[20:40] <solaruin> sierraar i havent, no. but the file is on a flashdrive, so it would end up touching my main OS that way
[20:41] <SierraAR> wilee-nilee ChogyDan: Output from running dist-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/3idAbuMk
[20:42] <lukasstr> meganerd: so there is no chance, that just my boot sector is overwritten? had an extra partition /boot with (200mb)
[20:42] <solaruin> anyone got a linux virus scanner?
[20:43] <bekks> solaruin: clamav
[20:43] <Fire>  how hard is installing a mailserver these days?
[20:43] <solaruin> awesome, thanks bekks
[20:43] <yachid> anyone has integrated vsftpd with Active Directory auth???
[20:44] <Juiffi> Avast also offers Linux version
[20:53] <xavier23> HI guys. Debian is more secure than Ubuntu, right?
[20:53] <wallrock91> Hi, folks
[20:53] <snaketong> hey guys, using Kubuntu, can't find anything using the search fonction in "mua package manager", I type cam, webcam, cheese, etc... can't find any webcam software !
[20:54] <wallrock91> xavier23: Debian is the base of Ubuntu it's more stable but the level of security is the same
[20:54] <bekks> snaketong: Do you mean "muon package manager"?
[20:54] <snaketong> yeah
[20:54] <ngochai> Hi guys, upstart keeps auto-rebooting my system, how do I debug it?
[20:55] <xavier23> wallrock91: ok. I'm thinking debian is therefore better for a server
[20:55] <xavier23> wallrock91: I need something very stable and reliable
[20:55] <xavier23> wallrock91: and secure
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> xavier23, not necessarily true any OS is secure as you make it.
[20:55] <wallrock91> xavier23: Debian for server machine is the most important free server distribution
[20:56] <Unknown574> hey
[20:56] <wallrock91> Obviously the best Linux Server Distro is RedHat Enterprise Linux
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> All fud,lol
[20:56] <Unknown574> i agree
[20:56] <Rafael_Gomes> Hi all.. There are any image of Ubuntu + Openstack (Havana ) ...I tried to find on the web but i didn´t find anything about that
[20:57] <Unknown574> is anybody good in linux programming?
[20:57] <xavier23> wallrock91: ok back in 15mins, then i wish to continue this discussion… lol
[20:57] <wallrock91> rotflastc
[20:57] <snaketong> bekks: any idea ?
[20:58] <wallrock91> Unknown574: I'm learning the Linux development in C and C++
[20:58] <bekks> snaketong: I am using the terminal only for installing software.
[20:58] <grough876> gm12ga34ge56
[21:00] <snaketong> with this attitude we will never see Linux on the desktop
[21:01] <snaketong> people don't want to back-up on the CLI just for installing a software
[21:01] <AlexFromCanada> I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem?
[21:02] <Luyin> !anyone > snaketong
[21:02] <AlexFromCanada> Anyone?
[21:03] <mystdarren> Yes, just ask the question AlexFromCanada
[21:04] <Luyin> oh sry snaketong, was meant to go to AlexFromCanada
[21:04] <Luyin> well, is the same as what's just been said anyway.
[21:08] <timholum> Hello I am trying to customize an ubuntu live cd, I am having a hard time trying to find out where to customize unity, I want to change the background image and customize what's in the side bar ( along with add a few firefox shortcut's )
[21:08] <AlexFromCanada> A while ago I installed ubuntu and windows alongside mac on my macbook pro. I forgot to change the location to install GRUB, and messed up my windows installation. After a reinstall (as I had almost nothing on it), everything was working fine, except that on rEFIt it showed grubx64.efi as a bootable operating system. This was very annoying, as it showed an ugly unknown operating system logo beside the windows and mac logos when
[21:09] <supercom32> Suppose I have an old box running Ubuntu 10.04, and I cram in a bootable USB drive with 12.04 LTS, can I just install it from within my existing Ubuntu install? Or must I actually boot from that USB key first?
[21:09] <AlexFromCanada> I was looking on google for a solution and a forum post said to mount the EFI partition and delete the ubuntu folder which had grubx64 in it.
[21:09] <AlexFromCanada> Now windows will not boot and I have lots of important files on there.
[21:09] <AlexFromCanada> Anyone know what to do?
[21:09] <raub> Kinda miffed: just created a 12.04.3 server vm. It rebooted and is not sitting in the "Starting Uncomplicated Firewall" step in its first boot
[21:10] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: it is a windows issu
[21:10] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: boot from windows cd and choose repair, not sure if that works with bootcamp
[21:10] <AlexFromCanada> I didn't use bootcamp
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, inside no boot yes, with a separate home you  couliss that one.
[21:10] <AlexFromCanada> just new partition and install
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Could use*
[21:11] <AlexFromCanada> The windows CD will not recognise the Windows partition as having windows on it.
[21:11] <AlexFromCanada> So it cannot repair
[21:12] <supercom32> wilee-nillee: Forgive me if I'm a little slow, as I'm kind of new to Linux. So If I do the install from within an existing Ubuntu setup, can I just replace the total installation? The reason I ask is because I'm using a Zbox VD01 which uses some via chipset. And with that, no newer versions of ubuntu work for install because I get a black screen (>_<);
[21:12] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: I have not owned a MAC for nearly a decade
[21:12] <AlexFromCanada> I don't think its a mac problem
[21:13] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: It is since they have a locked boot loader
[21:13] <AlexFromCanada> The problem was I deleted the ubuntu folder form the EFI partition
[21:13] <supercom32> So I'm trying to just get some later version of ubuntu installed so I can load the VIA drivers after on it.
[21:13] <AlexFromCanada> *from
[21:13] <AlexFromCanada> and now windows won't boot
[21:13] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: I have not tried in a while, but I seemed to need to use bootcamp to get windows installed.
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, install could have two meanings in your context, full install or  loading a iso to the flash
[21:14] <XMLnewbi> when setting up a vps and it ask's me NS1 and NS2 prefix, its asking for www right?
[21:14] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: When I say install, I mean to say "wipe the internal drive clean, and install fresh". Sorry if I was a little vauge before.
[21:15] <meganerd> supercom32: you could use do-release-upgrade
[21:16] <gamma9mu> .
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, The booted usb allow a wipe and install easily, I assume here a usb with the 12.04 ISO loaded
[21:16] <supercom32> meganerd: Does that allow you to jump to any arbitrary version? or only the next one in line?
[21:16] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: Yes, but when I boot to it, i get a black screen during install because it doesn't support the VIA graphics chipset.
[21:17] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: I tried alternative + server and nothing seems to show any kind of install screens.
[21:17] <AlexFromCanada> So it's an Ubuntu/Windows problem.
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, those are text installs, you might try the desktop version with a nomodeset boot, or ask for help o  the text one.
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> on*
[21:20] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: I know they are text installs. I would actually like to do that if it would show me any text. :-) What I am trying now is using the 10.04 install to upgrade in place to the next LTS release.
[21:20] <AlexFromCanada_> Sorry if anyone responded while I was gone, but the internet in my school stopped working for a second.
[21:20] <AlexFromCanada_> orry, maybe I'm not being clear. I had ubuntu, windows, and mac for a while. But accidentally installed grub to the whole hard drive instead of just the one partition. This broke windows, so I just reinstalled it. I stopped using ubuntu so I uninstalled it, but there was still an ubuntu folder in the EFI, so I manually deleted that. After deleting ubuntu from the efi, windows will not boot. So it's an Ubuntu/Windows problem.
[21:20] <AlexFromCanada_> *sorry
[21:20] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: I suppose I could try forcing VISA during install, but I would have to enable that 'blind' as I can't see anything.
[21:20] <supercom32> VESA I mean
[21:21] <Kyan`> salvee
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> !eol | supercom32 see eol upgrade path
[21:21] <AlexFromCanada_> test
[21:21] <AlexFromCanada_> weird it said I quit
[21:22] <supercom32> Whoa. Neat. Ok, thanks for the advice.
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, Generally the graphic drivers don't follow is all.
[21:23] <czsr> hi
[21:23] <czsr> test
[21:23] <BluesKaj> AlexFromCanada_, frub normally insalls itself to the mbr /first 512kb on a windows install , after installing ubuntu , sometimes running sudo os prober , then sudo update-grub will find the the Windows partition and list ti in grub
[21:24] <BluesKaj> grub
[21:24] <tinkster> Any reference to PPA repos that doesn't need a GUI talks about using add-apt-repository.  Funny thing is that that's not installed on 12.04, and apt-cache seems to be unable to find it, too ... where do I get that program from?
[21:24] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: You mean from release to release? Well, I have later versions of the driver on hand. It's just I need the OS installed so I can apply it at command line. But I can't do it during install time since I see nothing.
[21:25] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: unless I can install ubuntu via command line via something like "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop".
[21:25] <supercom32> But I think it says it is already installed since it thinks it's the live USB or whatnot.
[21:26] <supercom32> that's from pressing "ctrl+alt+F1" when I see nothing after booting my install USB Key.
[21:26] <BluesKaj> anyway , gotta go
[21:26] <Beastlybk> Hello
[21:27] <Beastlybk> Hello
[21:27] <Beastlybk> I need some help with 12.10 Ubuntu , I'm havimng problems booting it
[21:30] <AlexFromCanada_> I no longer have ubuntu though.
[21:30] <AlexFromCanada_> I deleted it along with the ubuntu folder in the efi
[21:31] <AlexFromCanada_> which is what had grub in it
[21:31] <Luyin> AlexFromCanada_: what else?
[21:31] <AlexFromCanada_> after DELETING grub, windows stopped working
[21:31] <Beastlybk> Can someon help me pleae.
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> Oh, sorry Luyin, someone else was helping me a couple minutes ago.
[21:32] <X-Seti> hello, I have a problem with the session manager where I try to login with session Mate, but putting in my Username it defaults to gnome3 and auto boots in ?
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> If you want I can give you a summary of my full problem.
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> Here ya go.
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> I am having an issue with windows. A while ago I had windows and mac on my computer. Then I installed ubuntu and forgot to change the grub install location, so it installed for the whole hard drive. This messed up windows so I reinstalled windows. A few months later, I decided to get rid of ubuntu so I did that. Just today, I noticed an ubuntu folder in the EFI partition of my hard drive so I deleted it. Inside that folder is
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> windows will no longer boot.
[21:32] <upd> Beastlybk, just write your problem
[21:33] <Beastlybk> Ok
[21:33] <tinkster> And to answer my own question (yet again).... the piece of software (that neither aptitude nor apt-cache could identify looking for add-apt-repository) is python-software-properties ....
[21:33] <tinkster> thanks for all the fish
[21:34] <AlexFromCanada_> You know what to do luyin?
[21:35] <Luyin> AlexFromCanada_: I think on ubuntu.com somewhere is a manual on what to do when win doesn't boot anymore due to grub reasons.
[21:35] <Luyin> but not sure
[21:35] <ngochai> Hi guys, upstart keeps auto-rebooting my system, how do I debug it?
[21:35] <Beastlybk> I recently upgraded(attempted) from 12.04 to  12.10 it went through all the upgrades and removal of not needed files and what not.  Right now I got it to boot it to a terminal like screen but can't  get  to the desktop whatsoever .  I've tried "startx" and I get  a "fatal error no screens found..."
[21:36] <upd> ngochai,  did you read http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging
[21:36] <ngochai> upd I did
[21:37] <AlanBell> Aceface: is that bug 971809?
[21:39] <upd> Beastlybk, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then sudo service gdm start
[21:40] <memand> Hey guys/galls, I have been trying to set up an NFS server using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo guide but when I do 'sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server I get this http://sprunge.us/PQDI output... Should I downgrade my kernel to a supported version?
[21:41] <boodroscotch> Hi y'all, I recently got an Intel Ivy Bridge laptop and I was wondering: what's the default CPU governor for Ivy Bridge CPUs? I understand PSTATES handles most of the stuff, but there are still two governors available.
[21:42] <Luyin> boodroscotch: which are available?
[21:42] <boodroscotch> Luyin: powersave and performance. the scaling driver is intel_pstates, if it's any help.
[21:43] <TheRedOctober> Greetings all. What is the preferred/safe way in 12.04 to remove an apt lock (ie. http://pastebin.com/r0Eh1Dwj )?
[21:43] <Luyin> boodroscotch: I uses none of these, sorry. I consider you should also have ondemand and conservative, but I'm not very into this.
[21:44] <Beastlybk> When I try to do the first command...nothing comes up after. Then I do sudo service gdm start and get "gdm: unrecognized service"
[21:44] <boodroscotch> Luyin: it was stated a while back that conservative and ondemand actually decreased efficiency compared to powersave and performance because of the new power management tech in Sandy Bridge CPUs and newer. Thanks anyways, though.
[21:45] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to make a FTP account for a user so they can only access a certain directory? I've googled it and tried all sorts of things with no luck, not able to connect via SFTP, just says Authentication failed.
[21:45] <gvo> cuddylier: What ftp server?
[21:45] <cuddylier> gvo vsftpd
[21:46] <meganerd> boodroscotch: on my laptop it appears as ondemand
[21:46] <meganerd> boodroscotch: I have an IvyBridge i7
[21:46] <meganerd> Beastlybk: try lightdm
[21:46] <upd> memand, https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=5549 try this
[21:47] <gvo> cuddylier: I have done it with proftpd before but it's been a while.
[21:47] <Beastlybk> Just lightdm? Sorry I'm new and not good with commands
[21:47] <meganerd> Beastlybk: no, sudo service lightdm start
[21:47] <xavier23> HI guys. Sorry to bring up this old topic. BUT….. red hat or debian for a server?
[21:47] <Marlenee> how can i recorde the bandwidth of my server
[21:48] <Beastlybk> Ok
[21:48] <meganerd> xavier23: whatever you are more comfortable with
[21:48] <gvo> cuddylier: Is there a log associate with vsftpd
[21:48] <gvo> associated.
[21:48] <upd> ah jest my bad its lightdm now xD
[21:48] <xavier23> meganerd: being a ubuntu fan, i guess debian. but someone said redhat is better?
[21:49] <Beastlybk> Ok I did that and everything says ok on the right side
[21:49] <meganerd> xavier23: I use debian or ubuntu-server, I prefer Debian mostly because it does not have a 6 month cycle, and the LTS versions have underwhelmed in the past 5 years
[21:49] <Luyin> boodroscotch: well I use ondemand while on AC and conservative on battery since yesterday. got the impression battery usage got better, but it's not confirmed yet.
[21:49] <gvo> xavier23: Rather subjective
[21:49] <Beastlybk> It seems t o be "checking battery state..."
[21:49] <meganerd> xavier23: everyone has an opinion.
[21:50] <gvo> xavier23: I run both ubuntu and centos servers.  I find ubuntu friendlier
[21:50] <meganerd> xavier23: I have been using Linux since the 90's, started with RedHat 7.something, been around Slackware, Debian (and FreeBSD, OpenBSD for non linux FLOSS).
[21:50] <meganerd> xavier23: there is good and bad in all, it really boils down to what are *you* more comfortable with.
[21:51] <gvo> meganerd: Well put
[21:51] <Artemis3> and ubuntu server
[21:51] <xavier23> meganerd: Yes agree with you ; Debian > Ubuntu for server
[21:51] <meganerd> xavier23: I can administer any of them at this point, but I know Debian and Ubuntu from the inside a lot better, so that is what I choose to use.
[21:52] <Artemis3> just stick to lts and youll be fine with ubuntu server
[21:52] <meganerd> xavier23: they are pretty much the same, only the release cadence is different
[21:52] <xavier23> meganerd: maybe I just stick with debian. i don't know anything about RHL
[21:52] <meganerd> Artemis3: not really true.  LTS can be a royal pain
[21:52] <Artemis3> im using lts on desktops, there is no problem at all
[21:52] <xavier23> I don't like the number of updates that you constantly have to apply with ubuntu
[21:52] <meganerd> xavier23: with Ubuntu 14.04, I think the plan is for a rolling release, and that interests me greatly
[21:52] <cuddylier> gvo Can't see one. I can't believe that no one has ever wanted to make multiple FTP accounts going to certain directories before or at least why it's not really popular that it's so straight forward.
[21:53] <xavier23> As a server therefore i would avoid it
[21:53] <Artemis3> its just security updates, you can't avoid those on any distro, bug/exploits are found and often patched, not updating means risking for the unwanted.
[21:53] <meganerd> xavier23: updates depend solely on what is installed.  With no GUI there are a far less updates.
[21:53] <Beastlybk> Meganerd: I did that and everytHing says ok on the right hand side.
[21:54] <yohkura> hi guys
[21:54] <xavier23> meganerd: humm ok
[21:54] <yohkura> can anyone give me some advice on how to achieve such a nice desktop like that one: http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/065/f/7/mnml_cypx_by_xenull-d5x564a.png ?
[21:54] <memand> upd: it seems that my init script for nfs-kernel-server is not the same as the one in that ticket, here http://sprunge.us/YGCG is the output of sudo cat /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server
[21:54] <meganerd> xavier23: most of the server packages look very similar between Debian and Ubuntu (at home I have 5 Ubuntu server installs, I have several VPS installs that are split between Debian and Ubuntu)
[21:55] <yohkura> (with ubuntu)
[21:55] <Artemis3> yohkura, looks like one of the light tiling wms, i wonder if thats tint2 on top?
[21:56] <meganerd> xavier23: really not much between them.  I have a cron job that checks for and applies updates every 6 hours, and checks to see if a reboot is needed every morning (and reboots it if needed).  Pretty much the same on either Debian or Ubuntu.
[21:56] <meganerd> Beastlybk: did a GUI login not appear
[21:56] <meganerd> ?
[21:56] <gvo> cuddylier: it sounds like your problem is with authentication rather than a jail problem.
[21:56] <Beastlybk> Nope
[21:56] <memand> as you can see the line in question is not in the file
[21:56] <Beastlybk> Still on this full screen terminal
[21:57] <Beastlybk> It's stuck at "checking battery state" I'm on a desktop
[21:57] <cuddylier> gvo Yeah, as I read on google there, a user should have a SFTP account by default
[21:58] <cuddylier> I have a directory that root needs to access as normal but I want just this user to access only that directory, /home/servers/survival
[21:58] <cuddylier> I set the user directory in /etc/passwd
[21:58] <cuddylier> But it hasn't seemed to have done anything
[21:58] <cuddylier> And I changed the users password
[21:59] <gvo> Did it work OK before you made the changes?
[21:59] <yohkura> Artemis3: well, i dont know but it looks gorgeous in my opinion :D pure minimalism
[21:59] <xavier23> meganerd: Wow you have a lot of servers. Anyway, thank you for sharing this advice.
[21:59] <soman> How to use variable in a for loop to pass it as a part of link to wget? http://paste.kde.org/pd63159fb/13787639/ this one doesn't work well
[21:59] <cuddylier> gvo Nope
[21:59] <cuddylier> gvo I have only tried this for the first time
[22:00] <gvo> So it doesn't have anything to do with the changes you made perhaps.  Go back to a normal configuration and see if that works first.  Then make changes.
[22:00] <cuddylier> gvo Normal configuration of what?
[22:01] <gvo> your ftp daemon.
[22:01] <gvo> and the password file.
[22:01] <meganerd> xavier23: most of them are VMs, though I am messing around with ceph so there are a couple of extra machines sitting down there for a couple of months
[22:01] <cuddylier> gvo All I would be doing is removing that user from it though
[22:01] <meganerd> xavier23: will need to power them down before the winter electricity bills arrive :)
[22:01] <gvo> So take a normal user and try to log in.  If that doesn't work, you have other problems.
[22:02] <cuddylier> What is the best commands to use to create a user and assign them to a directory then?
[22:02] <DMGrier> Hey everyone
[22:02] <gvo> server or desktop?
[22:02] <meganerd> gvo: what do want to use the comptuer for?
[22:02] <cuddylier> gvo SSH
[22:02] <gvo> Me?  I'm helping cuddylier
[22:02] <cuddylier> So server
[22:02] <Beastlybk> Meganerd: it didn't start a GUI or anything it got stuck at "checking batter state..." I'm on a desktop
[22:03] <gvo> OK useradd
[22:03] <gvo> cuddylier: ^^^
[22:03] <cuddylier> gvo useradd [username]?
[22:03] <xavier23> meganerd: cool. What can one do with so many servers, except maybe bitcoin mining? haha
[22:03] <gvo> cuddylier: useradd -m username
[22:03] <cuddylier> gvo Will we change their home directory after?
[22:04] <gvo> Not going to change it.
[22:04] <xavier23> Maybe hosting i guess
[22:04] <gvo> Make sure it works first
[22:04] <cuddylier> k
[22:04] <gvo> Be sure to add a password.
[22:04] <cuddylier> yeah, just passwd [username] right?
[22:04] <gvo> Yes as root.
[22:04] <cuddylier> After creating
[22:04] <cuddylier> yep
[22:05] <cuddylier> gvo That worked fine, I logged into their home directory with SFTP
[22:05] <meganerd> xavier23: one is a file server and VM server, one of the VMs does dhcp and dns (and PXE boot files), on VM is a Linux desktop (acessed via NX), another VM is for server (apache) stuff.  The other two "servers" are running a storage cluster proof of concept (ceph)
[22:05] <cuddylier> gvo They can view the root directory of the server though :O
[22:06] <xavier23> meganerd: Interesting
[22:06] <gvo> OK now try to change the directory to somewhere else
[22:06] <cuddylier> gvo How do I do that?
[22:06] <cuddylier> What's the command?
[22:06] <gvo> Edit the /etc/passwd file
[22:07] <meganerd> xavier23: I also have a couple of Windows server VMs, and a Windows 7 VM (so I can retire my physical Windows machine).
[22:07] <Beastlybk> meganerd: it didn't start a GUI or anything it got stuck at "checking batter state..." I'm on a desktop
[22:07] <gvo> cuddylier: be sure the new directory has rwx permission for the user.
[22:07] <cuddylier> gvo That worked but they can still access the root directory
[22:08] <gvo> I don't think you can do what you want with that ftp server.  Proftpd will let you jail users.
[22:08] <cuddylier> :(
[22:09] <upd> memand, its just annoying bug, try booting in older kernel version
[22:09] <gvo> cuddylier: Did you read the docs on vsftpd?
[22:09] <meganerd> Beastlybk: sorry, can you try "sudo service lightdm restart"
[22:09] <gvo> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/vsftp-chroot-users-limit-to-only-their-home-directory.html
[22:10] <fanda5> frucoooo
[22:10] <cuddylier> gvo I am atm
[22:10] <gvo> you are an atm?  Pretty intelligent one.
[22:10] <fanda5> hello
[22:11] <fanda5> lol
[22:11] <Beastlybk> meganerd: it is also stuck at "checking battery state..." And the cursor blinking underneath
[22:11] <kostkon> cuddylier, afk?
[22:11] <cuddylier> No kostkon
[22:11] <meganerd> Beastlybk: can you try ALT + F7
[22:11] <meganerd> Beastlybk: if that does not work, try ALT + F8
[22:12] <kostkon> cuddylier, youre just reading the docs ok :P
[22:12] <Beastlybk> Meganerd: I'm not sure if this isn't supposed to be there but right above it it says "starting virtualbox kernel modules saned disabled ; edit /etc/default/saned
[22:12] <cuddylier> It seems with vsftpd you can only jail people inside of their home directory :S
[22:13] <cuddylier> Oh wait
[22:13] <meganerd> Beastlybk: gotta run, sorry I wasn't able to help
[22:13] <cuddylier> hmm
[22:13] <memand> upd: Ok, how do I do that (sudo apt-get install linux-image-<VERSION> linux-headers-<VERSION>?)? And what kernel would you recommend?
[22:13] <Beastlybk> Meganerd: okt
[22:13] <Beastlybk>  Thanks anyway
[22:13] <meganerd> Beastlybk: saned is a scanner thing, just telling you to configure it since it is disabled by default
[22:13] <Beastlybk> O ok
[22:13] <Beastlybk> Alt f and alt 8 don't do anything
[22:14] <gvo> cuddylier: you can change their home directory in /etc/passwd as I said before.
[22:14] <Beastlybk> F8*
[22:14] <gvo> cuddylier: Don't try to put everyone in the same directory however.
[22:15] <Beastlybk> Um can someone else help since meganerd had to leave please
[22:15] <cuddylier> gvo How so?
[22:15] <gvo> how so what?
[22:15] <memand> upd: And I'm guessing that I would also have to edit the grub config files to boot the "new" kernel?
[22:15] <cuddylier> Why not put multiple people on same directory?
[22:16] <gvo> You could but you'd have to either open it up to let anyone write or put each person in the same group and give the directory group write.
[22:16] <upd> memand, usually there is allready an older kernel if you updated, and you can choose it at boot, well or check how to downgrade kernel, it will be added to grub config, and then you can set it to boot it, about which kernel i have no idea..
[22:16] <gvo> Then they could clobber each others files.
[22:17] <upd> memand, but i would spend some more time on google with fixing before downgrade
[22:17] <Beastlybk> I'm having booting issues with 12.10 and the screen gets stuck and won't boot
[22:19] <memand> upd: I will indeed spend some more time on google before downgrading, specially since it'll be a hassle getting grub configured correctly (it's a server so I only have ssh access) but thanks for the help ;)
[22:20] <gvo> cuddylier: I gotta go empty the kitty litter.
[22:20] <Beastlybk> I have the purple screen that gives me options on how I want to boot and if I choose "Ubuntu" it goes to a black screen where the cursor on the top left freezes and stops blinking
[22:20] <upd> memand, no problem i just wish i would be more helpful
[22:20] <cuddylier> gvo okay lol
[22:21] <Beastlybk> Upd, can u help me please
[22:21] <josefig_> is there a way to know the filesystem from an raid0 array?
[22:21] <upd> Beastlybk you upgrade got screwed up, a fresh install usually helps
[22:22] <Beastlybk> Upd, like using a USB?
[22:22] <upd> or dvd whatever you preferr
[22:23] <Beastlybk> Upd, or can I fresh install it through the terminal?
[22:23] <upd> no you need usb or dvd cd..
[22:23] <Beastlybk> Will I lose my data on my computer though?
[22:23] <upd> yes
[22:23] <Beastlybk> :(
[22:24] <upd> you can copy files on usb via termianal with cp command
[22:24] <memand> upd: Just a wuick update: I found this http://neuro.me.uk/blog/2009/09/20/revert-to-standard-ubuntu-kernel-on-ovh-or-kimsufi-servers witch is saying that the hosting company I run with are running their own kernel on their servers... So that is deffinatel the issue
[22:25] <ubtdntwrk> hey guys, after i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade my ubuntu stopped work
[22:25] <ubtdntwrk> internet doesnt work and i cant run ubuntu in graphics mode
[22:26] <Beastlybk> Wait so threes nothing I can do? I get the page with options of. " Ubuntu, advanced options for Ubuntu, memory test, memory test"
[22:26] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Try rebooting, that can happen when the linux kernel gets upgraded
[22:27] <ubtdntwrk> memand: i already did that and nothing work
[22:27] <ubtdntwrk> memand: still no internet and graphics
[22:28] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Do you know what packages got upgraded?
[22:28] <upd> Beastlybk, you can keep on trying to fix the problem
[22:29] <ubtdntwrk> memand: i dont know
[22:30] <Beastlybk> Thanks anyways
[22:31] <memand> ubtdntwrk: are you at the computer now and do you hae an usb drive nearby?
[22:32] <ubtdntwrk> memand: yes, this problem ocurred in my laptop, i'm on desktop now
[22:33] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Ok, we need to have a look at a file called /var/log/dpkg.log so if you can coppy that and upload it somewhere, then we can have a look at it
[22:35] <ubtdntwrk> memand: ok, one moment
[22:35] <Beastlybk> Upd: I was planning on upgrading to  13.04 , if I do a fresh Insall can I just go straight to that?
[22:38] <ubtdntwrk> memand: http://www.pasteall.org/45479
[22:41] <squaregoldfish> Can anyone think of a way to get my current lat/lon in a shell script? Clearly that info is available to HTML5 websites, but I can't think of a way to get it locally.
[22:44] <ubtdntwrk> memand: i guess there is nothing wrong with the update
[22:44] <c__> hola
[22:44] <c__> are here
[22:44] <c__> mexicanos ?
[22:45] <kostkon> squaregoldfish, check about geoclue with dbus. ubuntu comes with it by default
[22:45] <memand> ubtdntwrk: I'm just having a look at it, gimme a moment :)
[22:45] <c__> bye
[22:45] <ubtdntwrk> memand: ok
[22:45] <squaregoldfish> kostkon: Thanks, I'll take a look :)
[22:46] <fanda5> hello
[22:46] <Bobfeld> Beastlybk: You may try this, it helped me: http://mobile.dudamobile.com/site/ashwinraon_1?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ashwinraon.com%2F2012%2F08%2Fhow-to-solve-ubuntu-blank-screen-boot%2F&dm_redirected=true
[22:47] <Guest94472> Hi, Does anybody know how can unzip many files with same password at the same time?
[22:49] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can unzip many files with same password at the same time?
[22:50] <upd> mojtaba, unzip '*.zip' -P test
[22:52] <mojtaba> upd: Thanks
[22:52] <memand> ubtdntwrk: It was yesterday you upgraded right?
[22:52] <radiovstv> Hey folks! having an error I'm trying to solve an error with Ubuntu 12.04. On boot, i get an error "sp5100_tco: mmio address 0xb8fe00 already in use". anybody know anything about this?
[22:52] <ubtdntwrk> memand: yes
[22:52] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Is it wireless or wired or all internet that is not working?
[22:52] <ubtdntwrk> memand: both wireless and wired
[22:53] <memand> ubtdntwrk: What happens if you do sudo dhcpcd
[22:53] <ubtdntwrk> memand: dhcpcd command not found
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> unzip is weird - its the only app ive noticed that supports a argument like '*.zip'  ;)
[22:54] <walterwoj> Hi guys, some time ago my ehternet just quit working.  The lights are always on now but the machine says there is no harware and no ethernet connection.  I put in a new (second) card and that one works.  The main one is on the MB.  CAn anyone help me fix this?
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> the single quotes are critical. otherwise the shell parses the *
[22:55] <kostkon> :/
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> radiovstv, Did upi have a kernel upgrade?
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> you*
[22:55] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Oh, right... It's been a while since I've worked on ubuntu systems. Are you on a wire now?
[22:55] <ubtdntwrk> memand: yes
[22:56] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Try sudo dhclient
[22:56] <radiovstv> willee-nille, no, I don't think so. (Pretty new user)
[22:56] <ubtdntwrk> memand: nothing happened
[22:56] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Try ping google.com
[22:57] <baphomet1> hello all! could anyone provide me with advice for how to connect to an IPSec VPN from ubuntu?
[22:57] <ubtdntwrk> memand: unknown host www.google.com
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> radiovstv, How do yoo update, and do you look at what is there? I would try a previous kernel from the grub menu.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> you*
[22:58] <walterwoj> when I do "sudo lshw | sed -n '/\*-network/,${/\*-/{/\*-network/!q;};p;};'" it only sees the new card not the old one.
[22:58] <radiovstv> I usually use the update manager, I usually browse through it and saw nothing of concern
[22:58] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Ok, try lspci -v
[22:58] <memand> ubtdntwrk: that will tell you the model of the network controllers
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> radiovstv, I suspect you had a kernel update there was one lately try a earlier kernel, just a guess here though.
[22:59] <radiovstv> thanks!!
[23:00] <ubtdntwrk> memand: what are we looking for?
[23:00] <ubtdntwrk> memand: network controller?
[23:01] <ubtdntwrk> memand: broadcom corporation bcm4313 802.11b/g/n wireless lan controller
[23:01] <memand> ubtdntwrk: that would be a good place to start ;) What does it say in the field Kernel driver in use: ?
[23:02] <upd> baphomet1, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[23:03] <walterwoj> Has anyone here had a problem with loosing there eth0 after a update/restart?
[23:03] <ubtdntwrk> memand: i didnt find a field like that
[23:04] <zerick> walterwoj, maybe missing the "auto eth0" ?
[23:04] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Ok, in the output of lspci -v where there something about an ethernet controller?
[23:05] <walterwoj> zerick: Where woudl that be?
[23:05] <upd> walterwoj, so sudo lshw -C  does not show your card ?
[23:06] <ubtdntwrk> memand: yes : realtek semicondutor co, ltd. rtl8101e/rtl8102e pci express fast ethernet controller
[23:06] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Ok, and under that there where allso nothing about any kernel driers in use?
[23:07] <ubtdntwrk> memand: nothing about kernel drivers
[23:07] <baphomet1> back!  sorry about that.  So the question is, could someone help me get connected to an IPSec VPN using ubuntu?  I tried, but something is wrong.
[23:07] <mojtaba> upd: It does not unzip them
[23:08] <mojtaba> upd: It says caution: filename not matched
[23:08] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Well that could be the issue ;) gimme a sec and I'll see if I can find you the drivers
[23:08] <mojtaba> Do you know how can I unzip many files with the same password at the same time?
[23:09] <upd> mojtaba, unzip \*.zip -P test
[23:10] <mojtaba> upd: same error
[23:11] <walterwoj> upd: sudo lshw -C [what?] what you posted gives a help message. With ' sudo lshw' I do not find the card.
[23:11] <xtriz> i have customized ubuntu desktop can  i keep ubuntu services in it or i should remove it ?
[23:14] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Try this sudo modprobe r8169
[23:14] <mojtaba> Do you know how can I unzip many files with the same password at the same time?
[23:14] <upd> mojtaba, it should work \ ships asterix mybe unzip \*zip
[23:14] <upd> skips
[23:14] <upd> walterwoj what does dmesg say, and lspci, and also enable onboard ethernet in bios
[23:17] <walterwoj> upd, neither have any refference to eth0 or it's hardware.
[23:17] <ubtdntwrk> memand: fatal: module r8169 not found
[23:18] <walterwoj> the new card was assigned eth1 and it is listed.
[23:19] <walterwoj> upd, onboard Ethernet has always been on.  The lights on the card are both on sild, even when no cable is present.
[23:20] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Have you been doing anything else other that the update?
[23:20] <upd> walterwoj, is that a server ?
[23:21] <ubtdntwrk> memand: well, i did the update and installed new packages
[23:21] <ubtdntwrk> memand: if i'm correct, the last ones was related to liblwjgl
[23:23] <upd> walterwoj, backup /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and remove it and restart
[23:23] <walterwoj> upd, sort of do you mean hardware (no, desktop parts), software (no, ubuntu 12.04 LTS), usage (yes, web and samba shares and transmission seedbox, it's not headless either)
[23:24] <[b]> hi
[23:24] <[b]> who needs help??
[23:24] <Brispere> i do i do
[23:25] <[b]> Brispere: tell me
[23:25] <Brispere> I have uefi
[23:25] <[b]> Brispere: well... shit
[23:25] <Brispere> cant boot into ubuntu without a flash drive prepared with refind
[23:25] <[b]> Brispere: idk a shi about uefi
[23:25] <[b]> you can go to #archlinux
[23:26] <Brispere> lel
[23:26] <[b]> ?
[23:26] <Brispere> [b] will they help with elementary?
[23:27] <[b]> elementary is awesome
[23:27] <[b]> but your problem resides in the uefi shit... that's simple but idk a shit
[23:27] <memand> ubtdntwrk: It seems that something went horribly wrong durring that upgrade, and now the kerne modules are missing... Have a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411
[23:27] <OerHeks> Brispere, join #elementary
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> !language | [b]
[23:27] <Brispere> I cant even talk in #archlinux right now
[23:28] <gordonjcp> Brispere: you're not missing much
[23:28] <memand> And if anyone else has any idea how this could happen it would be cool if you could pitch in here :/
[23:28] <Brispere> is there a #uefisucks ?
[23:28] <walterwoj> udp, I did 'sudo cp 70-persistent-net.rules 70-persistent-net.rules.backup' then 'sudo cp 70-persistent-net.rules' and not it's safe to 'reboot' right?
[23:28] <[b]> yes
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> Brispere, I think the arch channel needs you to be registered
[23:28] <Brispere> ah
[23:29] <Brispere> how do
[23:29] <[b]> join
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> !register
[23:29] <ubtdntwrk> memand: ubuntu dont have a fallback option that restore system to the last update? hahaha
[23:29] <memand> Brispere: /msg nickserv help
[23:29] <upd> walterwoj, sudo cp ... ? or sudo rm ... ? yes it is safe
[23:29] <crianca> hi
[23:30] <anonuser> hey
[23:30] <[b]> hi
[23:30] <walterwoj> udp, I meant AND, rebooting now, BRB.
[23:30] <Brispere> registering nao
[23:31] <crianca> yes
[23:31] <memand> ubtdntwrk: the thing is that when something is deleted in linux it is deleted for real, so the only way to make a fallback would be to have a list of the packages that where installed at the last update and then fall back to them, but that would need an internet connection do work
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> memand, sorta accurate, there are files and configs that stay, depends on the delete.
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> even in purges at times
[23:32] <memand> wilee-nilee: true that, but the binary is gone
[23:32] <user__> how to install sdl 2.0 in ubuntu
[23:32] <memand> wilee-nilee: does purges retain stuff????
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> memand, depends on what its atached to.
[23:33] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, you there, how are thing?
[23:33] <chocolatemousse> things*
[23:34] <chocolatemousse> user__, read the manual, install sdl-dev
[23:34] <memand> wilee-nilee: well, the more you learn ;) Btw, have you ever heard of kernel modules gone missing after an upgrade?
[23:34] <user__> it installs the old version 1.2
[23:35] <user__> i need 2.0
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> memand, NOt really, but I'm just a armchair user in general.
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> question for the support channel: anyone know what the ubuntu kernel modules for the mouse are? I was playing with  my drivers recently, may need a reset
[23:35] <memand> chocolatemousse: usb or trackpad?
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> user__, again, read the manual on the website, if its not installed in the repos, you are gonna have to do it manually
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> memand, both I think
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> memand, noticed my scroll stopped working today
[23:36] <chocolatemousse> memand, both mouse and trackpad seem to 'work' still though
[23:36] <memand> chocolatemousse: I'm pretty sure it's psouse
[23:36] <memand> *psmouse
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> chocolatemousse, Not sure you have to dig into the kernel to fix.
[23:36] <chocolatemousse> memand, thanks, is it in the repos?
[23:36] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, I was dinking around with a custom psmouse version, I may need to
[23:36] <memand> have a look at this http://www.tuxtrix.com/2010/06/restarting-your-touchpadmouse-in-ubuntu.html
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> memand, thnx
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> chocolatemousse, ganing mouse?
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> gaming*
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, failry normal mouse
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, I was seeing if I could get multi-touch working on my trackpad, doesn't look like it does that anymore
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> ah, weird man "in a 1960's lingo"
[23:37] <upd> walterwoj, did it blow ?
[23:38] <upd> gues it did.
[23:38] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, used to do it Once Upon A Time, but I may have had a MOBO change since that time and the manufacturer may or may not have switched out the trackpad hardware revision
[23:38] <pinuzzo89> ciaooo
[23:38] <pinuzzo89> !list
[23:38] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, its an ALPS2 Glidpoint, if you know anything abuot those
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> nope
[23:39] <pinuzzo89> !list
[23:39] <memand> chocolatemousse: If you wanna enable "advanced" features of the trackpad you should have a look at this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Configuration_on_the_fly
[23:40] <memand> chocolatemousse: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Advanced_configuration
[23:41] <chocolatemousse> memand, thanks, I did see SHMConfig, however there are some sec concerns over that
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> memand, also I do have xinput
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> memand, thanks for the pointer anyways
[23:42] <walterwoj> udp, congrats now I lost both my wireless conncetion and the wired one.  they are both 'unmanaged'
[23:42] <walterwoj> ud
[23:43] <walterwoj> upd: ^^ that's for you ^^
[23:43] <upd> did you move backup back ?
[23:43] <walterwoj> no
[23:44] <walterwoj> am I supposed to?
[23:44] <upd> well do it, and you will have wireless back.
[23:45] <walterwoj> I have tethered to my phone for the time being, is there anything to do now to fix my original issue?
[23:46] <upd> walterwoj, or post lspci dmesg lshw somewhere
[23:46] <upd> and ifconfig iwconfig as root everything...
[23:47] <walterwoj> also I don't remember where that backup was....
[23:48] <gblazer> hi there, does anybody know httperf well? I'm trying to replay the logs, and specify different headers per request line. is it doable? i can't find it in the docs
[23:49] <upd> walterwoj,  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[23:49] <walterwoj> thanks, working on the others, but no change in theier output from before...
[23:50] <upd> walterwoj, just post somewhere
[23:52] <OerHeks> what is the use for so many clones jrgiffo-1 to 19?
[23:54] <Rask> Hello, channel.  I've encountered a number of web pages that say you can enable a VNC server that shares your main desktop instead of creating a new one by going to System>Preferences>Remote Desktop... but that seems to apply to some very outdated versions of Ubuntu and I can't figure out where that setting has moved, if it's still around at all.  is it?
[23:55] <walterwoj> I restoed the back how do I get my network remanaged
[23:56] <walterwoj> upd: http://pastebin.com/BWkf9emY  -- lspci
[23:57] <Rask> Failing that... is there a way to get a VNC server to use the same desktop as is displayed on the monitor?  So far all the options I've found just make new desktops.
[23:57] <walterwoj> upd: http://pastebin.com/HZ0ks6zW -- dmesg
[23:58] <gblazer> any httperf takers?
[23:59] <walterwoj> upd: http://pastebin.com/q48EctJY -- lshw
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> gblazer, with some details to the channel maybe use a pastebin if needd.


[02:13] <wrst> cyberanger if they have bloated it arch with lxde would be good but take some time
[14:03] <wrst> hello Xpistos
[14:04] <wrst> hello again Xpistos  :)
[14:26] <Xpistos> hey wrst
[14:26] <Xpistos> and everyone else good morning
[14:28] <wrst> morning Xpistos how are you doing?
[14:29] <Xpistos> wrst: not bads
[14:30] <wrst> good and happy newyear
[14:37] <Xpistos> yes yes, Happy New Year to Everyone
[16:18] <cyberanger> hey Genphlux
[16:33] <wrst> hey cyberanger, Genphlux
[16:39] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[16:39] <cyberanger> how's the day
[16:46] <wrst> pretty good cyberanger how about you?
[16:48] <cyberanger> fairly well
[16:49] <wrst> good deal
[16:49] <wrst> me too for a monday back from holiday
[16:49] <cyberanger> learning some perl, namely their regex style (I do more javascript regex usually)
[16:50] <cyberanger> and some much higher end satellite gear
[16:50] <wrst> satellite gear?
[16:51] <cyberanger> hughesnet for bussiness that don't want to get screwed by hughesnet
[16:52] <wrst> ha ha ok how does that work out? :)
[16:52] <cyberanger> more on the wallet, but for my reasons, it's better
[16:55] <wrst> doesn't everything work on the wallet
[16:59] <cyberanger> ain't it the truth
[17:00] <cyberanger> but in this circumstance, I think it's in my favor
[17:00] <cyberanger> a startup isp, for areas where the whole town's access is via satellite
[17:01] <cyberanger> one connection, and a small amount of routing gear, and it starts to rival the two worse competitors
[17:04] <wrst> interesting
[17:11] <cyberanger> yeah, or it should be
[17:11] <cyberanger> might mean some time in a village to find out
[17:12] <cyberanger> vs tennessee (however bringing the idea back to tennessee's mountains is in the cards, there is even better testing grounds)
[17:15] <cyberanger> http://goo.gl/NLom5
[17:16] <cyberanger> and Hughesnet, that's the only two realistic providers, unless you pay in Roubles instead of dollars
[17:17] <cyberanger> and Idk if they'd be better, but the locals don't use them, they use hughesnet at best
[17:18] <wrst> i have looked at hughesnet and they charge you for coffee and they dont' sell coffee
[17:25] <cyberanger> hehe, but they sell broadband, they just also throw in an absurdly high latency, a low (read: useless) bandwidth cap, the other provider is worse
[17:26] <wrst> yeah their cap is awful i researched it at one time
[17:26] <cyberanger> and the state of alaska gave them broadband grant money (which they don't qualify for) to install fiber to the home (to a satellite dish that can't provide a connection to utilize it)
[17:26] <cyberanger> and hughesnet shrunk the cap too
[17:26] <cyberanger> even with a new satellite
[17:27] <cyberanger> with more bandwidth on the new bird
[17:28] <wrst> that's crazy more bandwidth and a lower cap way to kick people where it hurts
[17:29]  * cyberanger wonders if hughesnet will read this later and go, D'Oh, that's what we're doing wrong
[17:35] <cyberanger> wrst: I'd link you to their site, but it's having issues, I hope that google cache link shows the problem though
[17:36] <cyberanger> two dial up accounts and two phone lines is cheaper than one offering they have
[17:36] <cyberanger> it's shameful
[17:50] <wrst> but isn't that in alaska cyberanger ?
[17:53] <wrst> but if you are doing internet stuff not a good sign when your site is down :)
[18:12] <cyberanger> wrst: indeed
[18:12] <cyberanger> and, yea
[18:13] <wrst> i guess in alaska... but really if its satellite based it shoudln't make a difference i don't guess?
[18:33] <cyberanger> well, the wifi bit, and need, is what I'm looking at
[18:34] <cyberanger> and in tennessee, the need doesn't scale as easily
[18:48] <wrst> greetings pace_t_zulu_
[18:48] <wrst> cyberanger: i would just like to have some good quick service
[18:50]  * cyberanger ponders suggesting a move to chattanooga's ebp fiber, fastest in the states
[18:50] <pace_t_zulu> sup wrst
[18:52] <wrst> hey pace_t_zulu how are you doing?
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: ok, you?
[18:52] <cyberanger> hey pace_t_zulu
[18:53] <wrst> yep doing good finally got unity to working again
[18:53] <pace_t_zulu> wrst yea, i've got it working too
[18:53] <pace_t_zulu> but it is slow
[18:53] <cyberanger> again, whel will it just work
[18:54] <wrst> i haven't had much issues with speed just kernel panics for a why
[18:58] <cyberanger> in other words, it's not slow anymore, not it just fails
[18:59] <wrst> its back to working now cyberanger
[18:59] <cyberanger> why didn't it work then....
[18:59] <cyberanger> oh well, all in the name of a bug report
[19:00] <wrst> ??? i have no clue just pikcked up the new iso yesterday
[19:00] <wrst> there were some bug reporters about the issue
[19:05] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: if you can help with that issue i'm sure it will be worthwhile
[19:10] <wrst> yeah they have it solved i can't remember exactly the issue but had lots of people on it already
[19:10] <wrst> i do try to tune in with bug reports
[22:13] <starsprout> ahrooh
[22:14] <cyberanger> bonjour starsprout comment est votre journée
[22:15] <cyberanger> er, sorry
[22:15] <cyberanger> hello starsprout, how's your day
[22:16] <starsprout> beautiful in Memphis
[22:16] <starsprout> hey cyberanger what are good command-line tools like those at dnsstuff.com ?
[22:17] <starsprout> like whois and dig, even nmap
[22:17] <starsprout> we're trying to set up a -gulp- MAC Snowleotard server
[22:18] <cyberanger> Mac server, what's that, freebsd and a gui
[22:18] <cyberanger> whois, dig, nmap are the main three that I need, for what dnsstuff.com does
[22:19] <cyberanger> considering geoip isn't simple to implement
[22:23] <starsprout> "Mac server, what's that, freebsd and a gui" - I love that :-)
[22:23] <starsprout> Looks like I'm gonna do a lot of learning this evening...
[22:24] <starsprout> I may log back in from the jobsite to pick some brains
[22:24] <starsprout> cheerio!
[22:40] <wrst> hmm I think some network funkyness has taken place
[23:34] <starsprout> hiya
[23:34] <starsprout> hey cyberanger how many DNS zones do I need to set up on the mac server to support multiple websites?
[23:38] <starsprout> ok I realize this is the wrong channel for question, heheh
[23:55] <wrst> not if someone has the answer its not the wrong channel starsprout  :)


[22:27] <Eickmeyer> tarzeau: Yeah, I saw that. I'm just worried about iso size at the moment.
[22:28] <Eickmeyer> tarzeau: Also, what advantages would it have over Musescore?