[15:59] <BluesKaj> meetings, bah humbug,...I used to avoid them if possible when i was still working :-)
[15:59] <ducasse> Bomber4Chats: ls /dev/tty* - it should be ttyUSBS0 or something similar
[15:59] <madsj> I get this http://termbin.com/rode
[15:59] <ducasse> slazer: zfs is a very bad choice for a notebook, it _eats_ memory.
[15:59] <madsj> when running /sbin/vboxconfig as root
[16:00] <rypervenche> slazer: LVM does not suck at all.
[16:00] <madsj> I'm trying to install the latest version of VirtalBox (5.1)
[16:00] <slazer> ducasse: that concludes this discussion, coz memory is an issue on this notebook
[16:00] <HipsterHacker> yeap
[16:00] <Bomber4Chats> there 63 tty
[16:00] <Bomber4Chats> ttys
[16:00] <Bomber4Chats> and 30 ttyS
[16:00] <slazer> RAW ftw
[16:01] <slazer> rypervenche: that SO says that, not me
[16:01] <ducasse> Bomber4Chats: any ttyUSBS* ?
[16:01] <Bomber4Chats> no
[16:01] <ducasse> Bomber4Chats: then no driver.
[16:01] <Bomber4Chats> k...
[16:01] <Bomber4Chats> so..?
[16:02] <ducasse> Bomber4Chats: try the manufacturer site.
[16:02] <Bomber4Chats> I don't think they have a driver. Pretty sure they don't
[16:02] <Bomber4Chats> Let's assume they don't :)
[16:02] <ducasse> Bomber4Chats: it might also be possible to use another driver, since such hardware is pretty generic, but i'm not sure how to do that.
[16:03] <rypervenche> slazer: I just took a look at that list and all of those reasons are basically just "I don't know how to do this correctly" or "I don't have backups" or "I am using HDD and SDD mixed together (bad idea)".
[16:03] <ducasse> Bomber4Chats: you'd need to convince the kernel module to have a modalias for your device, but that's not something i've done before.
[16:03] <Bomber4Chats> :S
[16:04] <uddane> BluesKaj: still the same in chrome...  :-( I give up..  :-|
[16:04] <Bomber4Chats> I'm a bit confused why Windows is able to communicate with the device, but linux cannot
[16:04] <slazer> rypervenche: I'd expect a good volume manager to manage SSD+HDD transparently without any issue.
[16:05] <ducasse> Bomber4Chats: as i said, such hardware is very generic, so it might be possible to get it working with an existing driver. try asking in ##linux.
[16:05] <transhuman_> hi! I am wondering if there is a fix for the combination headphones and microphones, in order to get the microphone working?
[16:05] <rypervenche> slazer: You don't want to mix the two on the same volume.
[16:05] <transhuman_> seems like theres a lot that says they are just broken got them at 5 below
[16:07] <ducasse> slazer: if you want to mix ssd and hdd, look at bcache. but mixing ssd and hdd is not an issue here anyway.
[16:07] <BluesKaj> uddane, some sites like hbo probly use spme out of date flash no longer supported ...we have a major tv network here in Canada whose videos dont run successfully in linux
[16:07] <jaagup> hi
[16:08] <ducasse> BluesKaj uddane: or drm.
[16:15] <d0d1> d0d1 is here. Bow down!
[16:19] <Cooler> so i started ubuntu and its displaying a bunch of keyboard shortcuts
[16:19] <Cooler> what is super?
[16:19] <Cooler> in super + tab
[16:19] <joelio> windows key
[16:19] <Cooler> oh ok
[16:20] <joelio> generally, anyway
[16:20] <Cooler> why not say that
[16:20] <joelio> some keyboards don't...
[16:20] <joelio> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button)
[16:20] <joelio> plus it's ubuntu, why perpetuate MS trademarks :)
[16:25] <zteam> Hi!
[16:26] <jzaw> lo peeps
[16:26] <zteam> anybody here knows where I can find libcms1 package for Ubuntu? (yes I know it's old but I need it)
[16:26] <jzaw> im sure ppl have asked before ... but when the screen goes to sleep ... i cant wake it with the mouse movement or keyboard
[16:26] <jzaw> any solutions ?
[16:27] <jzaw> all my searches have not found a working solution
[16:27] <jzaw> best case i have is to use xset to turn off screensaver blanking/expose and turn off dpms too
[16:27] <jzaw> but that means my screen never goes to sleep
[16:29] <ngomes> any proefficient with extundelete ?
[16:29] <zteam> jzaw, there is various ACPCI settings you can try I suppose
[16:29] <EriC^> ngomes, what are you trying to do?
[16:29] <EriC^> recover deleted files from ext4?
[16:29] <jzaw> zteam in efi/bios ?
[16:30] <ngomes> EriC^, recovering deleted files in a ext4 filesystem , but the result is a bunch of files , as DATA , i dont know what's inside
[16:30] <zteam> ngomes, I think I has been using that one in the past ( or if was something similair named
[16:30] <EriC^> ngomes, was the partition deleted or just the files?
[16:30] <ngomes> just files
[16:30] <EriC^> ngomes, oh
[16:30] <ducasse> ngomes: they're most likely gone.
[16:30] <EriC^> ngomes, photorec can recover based on file type
[16:31] <EriC^> !testdisk | ngomes
[16:31] <ngomes> odt ? ( libreoffice ) ?
[16:31] <EriC^> !info testdisk | ngomes
[16:31] <ngomes> i've seen testdisk
[16:31] <EriC^> ngomes, try photorec and pass it the file type to search for
[16:31] <ducasse> !recover | ngomes
[16:31] <ngomes> it doesnt support odt files
[16:32] <EriC^> ngomes, it can support anything, you can give it the headers yourself
[16:32] <EriC^> hexdump -C /path/to/file
[16:32] <EriC^> get the first portion and add them, hold on
[16:32] <EriC^> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Add_your_own_extension_to_PhotoRec
[16:34] <phishfi69> hey guys, I need help connecting my VirtualBox Ubuntu build to a folder on my Windows Host, does anyone have some experience doing this?
[16:34] <ngomes> EriC^, looks like magicrescue can search for given extension
[16:34] <ngomes> gonna experiment that
[16:34] <EriC^> ok
[16:35] <acer> finally got ubuntu working
[16:35] <EriC^> phishfi69, install the guest additions iso then share it
[16:35] <EriC^> top right corner, shared folders
[16:36] <Cooler> finally got ubuntu working
[16:36] <EriC^> cool
[16:36] <zteam> jzaw, those options can be se via GRUB, google on ACPI (I miss-spelled it before) and Ubuntu a little bit, this might give you some clues https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingGNOMEPowerManager
[16:37] <jzaw> thanks zteam .. no need to say this is for 16.04   ;)
[16:37] <phishfi69> Eric^, I have installed the guest additions, but whenever I type mount -t vboxsf, it says vboxsf is not a recongized filesystem
[16:37] <EriC^> phishfi69, try settings > shares
[16:38] <phishfi69> Ok, in VB's settings,  I have 5 folders set under "Machine Folders" with directions to their respective folders on the Windows Host
[16:38] <zteam> jzaw, yes that documentation is quite old, but that was what I could find :-)
[16:38] <jzaw> it's my first use in anger of ubuntu (esp on a desktop) till now ive for years ive just used vanilla debian on the desktop and xfce
[16:38] <zteam> jzaw, updating your display-driver might also be worth a shot
[16:39] <EriC^> phishfi69, did you share them in windows?
[16:39] <phishfi69> oh, like set them as shared folders? nope, let me try that
[16:39] <EriC^> yeah
[16:41] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 sound not working
[16:41] <ankit> please help
[16:45] <phishfi> OK, folders shared on windows, still get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'vboxsf'
[16:47] <cosmicfires> phishfi, you need the vbox helper stuff installed on windows for the shared folders to work
[16:49] <phishfi> cosmicfires, any idea where I can find that? I diddn't see anything about it in the user guides from VirtualBox
[16:49] <cosmicfires> you should have it, let me check the menu
[16:49] <EriC^> phishfi, usually i just add the shares in virtualbox and share it on the host
[16:50] <EriC^> and then they come up under network shares in the filemanager
[16:50] <EriC^> no need to manually use mount -t
[16:51] <cosmicfires> phishfi, on the vbox window's menu Devices->Insert Guest Additions CD Image...
[16:51] <phishfi> OK, so I am trying to get /mnt/downloads from the Ubuntu guest machine to direct to the A:/Downloads folder on my Windows host
[16:51] <phishfi> cosmicfires, I've done that and installed the guest additions already
[16:51] <cosmicfires> phishfi, I didn't understand where you were, you have to enable something else too I'll look
[16:52] <phishfi> thanks!
[16:53] <cosmicfires> in the VBox window where you configure and start VMs Shared Folders->Machine Folders
[16:53] <cosmicfires> I have Auto-mount yes and Access Full there
[16:54] <cosmicfires> I've had problems getting shared folders to work too
[16:54] <phishfi> OK, auto-mount and access full are both checked
[16:55] <cosmicfires> the folders on linux need permissions for the user running vbox too obviously
[16:57] <phishfi2> ok, and how do I do that from terminal?
[16:58] <cosmicfires> like any other folder/files with chmod
[16:59] <cosmicfires> if the same user owns the shared folder as is running vbox permissions should be correct
[17:01] <cosmicfires>  my user that runs vbox is in the vboxusers group, that's likely important too
[17:01] <phishfi2> I guess what I'm saying is how do I chmod a folder that I can't view without mounting? or am I missing something (it's been over a year since I messed with linux)
[17:01] <cosmicfires> remember when you add a user to a group you have to log in again
[17:01] <cosmicfires> you can look at the folder in linux phishfi2 ?
[17:02] <cosmicfires> or are you running linux in a vbox on windows?
[17:02] <phishfi2> that
[17:02] <phishfi2> I'm running linux as a guest on a windows host
[17:03] <cosmicfires> log in to linux in the console window
[17:03] <cosmicfires> I've never run vbox that way but when you start the vm you should get a window with a login prompt for the linux virtual machine
[17:04] <cosmicfires> also I've never shared a folder on the vm with the host machine, I've only shared folders on the host with the vm
[17:04] <phishfi> ugh, keep discoing
[17:04] <phishfi> athat's what I'm trying to do
[17:05] <phishfi> I want to access folders on the windows machine (the actual computer) with the Ubuntu VM
[17:05] <cosmicfires> that should work
[17:05] <phishfi> so that I can download/store/access files through the VM
[17:05] <phishfi> so I log into ubuntu's terminal
[17:05] <cosmicfires> but I don't know a lot about windows
[17:06] <cosmicfires> I don't know if you have to share the host machine folder with the vm by setting something on the host
[17:07] <phishfi> the problem I'm at now is getting ubuntu to mount/recognize the shared folders (I have them all configured in VirtualBox and set to share on the Winodws side)
[17:07] <saf> need to increase root space on 14.04 VM
[17:08] <cosmicfires> let me look at a linux vm
[17:08] <cosmicfires> I'm not sure I shared files with it since it's a test machine for a server on the net
[17:09] <_sdx> Hi everyone, i got a suspend/hibernate problem with my lenovo z510 using ubuntu 16.04 LTS ,it suspends/hibernate successfully , but it freezes when woke up , anyone know how to solve this problem ?
[17:09] <ducasse> saf: what kind of vm?
[17:10] <cosmicfires> my linux vm is broken it boots into emergency mode
[17:12] <EriC^> _sdx, try a newer kernel
[17:12] <EriC^> 4.6rc6 is working for me
[17:12] <EriC^> !mainline | _sdx
[17:13] <brenda> Hi! Why is Firefox startup slower on Ubuntu than Windows 10?
[17:13] <_sdx> i currently using 4.5.2-040502-generic, i have installed older versions but it didn't solve the problem
[17:13] <EriC^> _sdx, try 4.6rc6
[17:14] <_sdx> ok thanks EriC^
[17:14] <zteam> hmm....
[17:14] <EriC^> _sdx, no problem
[17:14] <phishfi> the instructions for virtualbox all say to input "mount -t vboxsf downloads /mnt/downloads", but I just get the response: "mount: unknown filesystem type 'vboxsf'"
[17:14] <EriC^> phishfi, is the guest additions iso installed in the guest?
[17:14] <phishfi> yes, I did the sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso thing
[17:15] <EriC^> phishfi, did you reboot?
[17:15] <phishfi> yep, I ran shutdown -h now
[17:15] <cosmicfires> my linux vm won't boot
[17:15] <cosmicfires> I've had this problem before I'm not sure hot to fix it
[17:16] <cosmicfires> phishfi, you installed the guest mode additions on linux right?
[17:16] <phishfi> yes
[17:16] <phishfi> I followed the instructions to install them via apt-get
[17:16] <phishfi> and when I run the apt-get, it says it's installed
[17:17] <cosmicfires> I installed them from the vm menu
[17:17] <cosmicfires> but your method should work
[17:21] <cosmicfires> got vm booted the kernel was broken
[17:22] <ikonia> I doubt that
[17:22] <ikonia> kernels don't break
[17:22] <cosmicfires> well I booted with a different kernel and it boots now
[17:23] <ikonia> thats a different situaion
[17:23] <ikonia> that doesn't mean the kernel is broke
[17:23] <cosmicfires> what does it mean?
[17:29] <tatertots> l
[17:30] <zteam> Do anybody here knows about a linux tool that is able copy data from a damaged harddrive, but is not changing the filesystem on the disk it copies that data too?
[17:30] <rsully> I've got a second gfx card in my box now, and lspci shows it. But settings doesn't and it isn't working. Anyone hve any ideas?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> zteam  start from the beginning, what happened
[17:31] <zteam> MonkeyDust, it's quite easy
[17:32] <zteam> I do have a harddrive with damaged sectors which I want to backup to a encrypted partition on another disk (the old disk is not encrypted)
[17:33] <tatertots> rsully, a integrated on cpu die gpu and a discrete addin amd/nvidia gpu or two discrete amd/nvidia gpu's?
[17:34] <bvzx> dw
[17:34] <rsully> 2 discrete nvidia cards. i had 1 before, added the second
[17:34] <zteam> MonkeyDust, I could have used Gddrescue to copy the whole disk
[17:34] <brenda> any idea how I can speed up browser startup (on 16.04)?
[17:34] <duran> emedimi
[17:34] <duran> selam millet
[17:34] <duran> nasılsınız
[17:34] <duran> aloooo
[17:34] <duran> millet
[17:35] <zteam> moneylotion, but that would also remove the encryption from the new harddrive which I want to keep :-)
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> !tr | duran
[17:35] <bvzx> close your browser
[17:35] <bvzx> 中国
[17:36] <zteam> brenda, check whetever your browser has many addons, and consider removing some of them
[17:36] <paul0897> hello Lack56
[17:38] <david__> Anyone know how to turn off joins and quits in irssi
[17:38] <rsully> tatertots any ideas? :/
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> !quiteirc | david__
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> !quietirc | david__
[17:39] <david__> ubottu: I just did that. I used the command, but I still see the join/parts/quits. I'll try again
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> david__  /ignore #ubuntu +joins +parts +quits +modes +nicks
[17:42] <sipior> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[17:42] <david__> Thanks MonkeyDust that seemed to have worked
[17:44] <tatertots> assuming you've already made any needed BIOS level/motherboard adjustments to enable both gpu's at same time, are you using the nvidia driver?
[17:44] <rsully> Yeah I am. Both cards do show up in `lspci`, as well as bios
[17:45] <tatertots> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#SLI_.2F_Multi-GPU_on_Ubuntu.28and_Linux_in_general.29
[17:45] <rsully> tatertots can I do dual gpu without cli?
[17:45] <rsully> sli***
[17:46] <tatertots> what version of ubuntu and are you using the nvidia drivers rsully?
[17:46] <rsully> 16.04, nvidia 361.42
[17:47] <brenda> zteam, no addons 5-6 seconds startup
[17:47] <BronzeEagle> Hey guys, I ran apt-get update, and it's hanging up on Setting up keyboard-configuration (1.108ubuntu15.2) ... I'm running 16.04
[17:49] <zteam> brenda, are u using it from a regular harddrive or a SSD?
[17:51] <brenda> zteam, it is an Ideapad 100S-14 (eMMC)
[17:57] <arcsky> hey guys how do i change exit buttons from left to rigt side?
[17:58] <tatertots> rsully do you get a video signal out of both cards during POST / bootup?
[17:58] <rsully> tatertots no, my bios is single display
[17:59] <rsully> both cards show up in NVIDIA X Server Settings app
[17:59] <tatertots> have you enabled multi gpu in the x configuration ? with nvidia-xconfig?
[17:59] <rsully> no, I will try that now
[18:01] <tatertots> I think that's discussed in this section http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/343.22/README/sli.html
[18:02] <rsully> tatertots I ran the multicpu=on command but nothing changed. Do I need to reboot?
[18:03] <rsully> multigpu*
[18:03] <tatertots> rsully you need to at least log out and log back in again and or reboot after making changes
[18:03] <rsully> ok i'll try that
[18:03] <FloxerDoom> now on 16.06 how do i reconfigure so i have not only loading screen and a mouse forever ?
[18:03] <FloxerDoom> what do i reconfigure ?
[18:04] <rsully> tatertots I didn't have to specify which gpus to use in the multigpu config though?
[18:04] <FloxerDoom> multiworking cfg
[18:05] <FloxerDoom> anybody make 16.04.01 working ?
[18:05] <FloxerDoom> for me on mine that is
[18:05] <rsully> tatertots rebooted but nothing changed
[18:06] <FloxerDoom> black screen and a mouse pointer only right here
[18:07] <tatertots> rsully did you setup and enable/apply an appropriate display configuration using both in the nvidia settings?
[18:07] <FloxerDoom> lubuntu doesnt have drivers ... ub16.04.1 doesnt have colored screen :|
[18:07] <rsully> tatertots the nvidia settings allowed me to create a new screen for the display, but gnome isn't using it. do I want 2 screens, or 1 with 2 devices?
[18:07] <__Myst__> Hello
[18:07] <tatertots> both cards are displayed in the nvidia-settings correct rsully?
[18:07] <rsully> yep
[18:08] <__Myst__> I'm on 14.04 LTS I want to upgrade to 16.04 LTS
[18:08] <__Myst__> Can I just do `do-release-upgrade`?
[18:08] <rockyh> ducasse: I did not make a reboot, but yes, I checked the behaviour after the update and it is the same
[18:08] <rockyh> (anyway I will check again after reboot=
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> __Myst__  what happens when you try
[18:09] <__Myst__> MonkeyDust: I have't tried yet
[18:10] <FloxerDoom> anybody care to get my ubuntu straight running ?
[18:10] <tatertots> monitor layouts and configurations aren't going to be one size fits all but i'd try 1 screen with two devices FIRST then remember you'll need to at least log out and log back in again to see any  changes you're made
[18:10] <FloxerDoom> i only have a black screen and a mouse cursor but can tty
[18:11] <dreais> hello, need help with dual boot please
[18:11] <Chords> Don't ask to ask, just throw out a question. Theres enough people that someone will know and throw out an answer
[18:11] <dreais> eee the problem is that i don't really know what's happening
[18:12] <dreais> well, i installed ubuntu today and i can't go back on w7
[18:12] <dreais> i edited teh /etc/grub.d/40_custom but i got an error "invalide signature"
[18:13] <tatertots> rsully also move your mouse cursor side to side to see if the mouse shows up on other displays. in some configurations you can have an active display with nothing or just gray or just a "x" as a mouse that moves on the display, so be observant
[18:14] <rsully> yeah when I added the second x screen i could move my mouse to it (turned into an x) but there was no desktop there
[18:16] <tatertots> monitor#1>>>>gpu#1 and monitor#2>>>>gpu#2 is this your display topology rsully?
[18:16] <rsully> yeah
[18:17] <tatertots> ok cool
[18:18] <FloxerDoom> can somebody help me restor the latest ub on my laptop ?
[18:18] <FloxerDoom> prob is black screen with only mouse cursor and can tty
[18:18] <dreais> and can somebody help me to fix my dual boot ?
[18:19] <dreais> there's no w7
[18:19] <tatertots> what's going on with your dual boot dreais?....did you install linux first or second?
[18:19] <dreais> i was with w7 and i installed ubuntu
[18:19] <dreais> just today
[18:20] <dreais> the prob is that when i shutdown the computer, grub didn't show w7
[18:20] <dreais> i edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom but when windows 7 showed i got an error invalide signature
[18:20] <tatertots> ah i see
[18:20] <dreais> im kinda scared
[18:21] <tatertots> don't be affraid
[18:21] <dreais> yea but
[18:21] <tatertots> you just need to fix your grub
[18:21] <dreais> there was 2 partitions before installing linux
[18:21] <dreais> one about 30mb, with "WINDOWS 10 LOADER" that i deleted
[18:21] <dreais> and now im wondering if it was a good choice
[18:21] <minimec> dreais: Could you once boot ubuntu and do a 'sudo update-grub'. If you are lucky, you're good. You shouldn't need a custom grub configuration normally.
[18:21] <Rexodus> Is there a posibility to ASCII 7 in Bash?
[18:22] <Rexodus> So, I can hear a BEEP.
[18:22] <dreais> i did everything here with sudo update-grub
[18:22] <dreais> even with /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[18:22] <rsully> tatertots any idea how to make that screen useful?
[18:22] <tatertots> if you setup at least a 1/2 proper dual boot then you probably just need to fix grub
[18:22] <dreais> tatertots: ask me everything about the setup then
[18:22] <dreais> i'll try to answer the best i can
[18:23] <brenda> Ideapad 100S-14/Ubuntu 16.04/Firefox 47.0 -> Cold start = 6,5 seconds
[18:24] <brenda> Is this "normal"?
[18:26] <tatertots> dreais have you already reinstalled grub?
[18:26] <dreais> i think, yes
[18:27] <dreais> it has been a while since im trying to fix the problem so im maybe getting confused, sorry
[18:28] <tatertots> rsully https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors
[18:29] <rsully> I don't have the option for TwinView or Configure button
[18:30] <rsully> Configure is a dropdown for me: disabled, new x screen
[18:30] <tatertots> dreais https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:30] <rsully> 2 screens is probably fine, but gnome needs to know about it and it isnt auto detecting it :S
[18:31] <Haugli92> One fast question: using command 'cp' to copy same source file to different destination at same time. Would make problems?
[18:31] <tatertots> rsully you're opening nvidia settings with sudo ?
[18:31] <rsully> no, but when I save the file it prompts me for my password
[18:32] <dreais> i did recommended repair a little earlier
[18:32] <dreais> nothing much happened
[18:32] <patarr> anyone have an issue on 14.04 (fully updated) where Chrome browser just has a bunch of white and black boxes? It's rendering is totally broken
[18:32] <n00mada> join #offsec
[18:33] <tatertots> haven't seen that issue on my 14.04 systems with chrome installed patarr
[18:33] <patarr> Seems like it's a GPU issue tatertots. Launching with --disable-gpu did the trick
[18:35] <dreais> tatertos: do you want me to create that bootinfo summary ?
[18:37] <tatertots> sure
[18:38] <tatertots> rsully you tried other monitor configuration layouts and at least logged out and logged back in to observe the results of any changes?
[18:38] <rsully> yeah
[18:39] <dreais> tatertots: http://paste2.org/5C8HZUxc
[18:39] <merpnderp> Yikes, to install Ubuntu to usb on OSX, the directions take me to UNetbootin, which has a download over http and no sha sum to test against. Defeats the purpose of all the security checks in the ubuntu download.
[18:42] <dreais> i even see my windows 7 here.. wtf
[18:44] <Rexodus> I'll ask the same wine in new bags.  What can I do about it?
[18:44] <tatertots> rsully you said and confirmed 'twin view' is grayed out/can't select in your current configuration correct?
[18:45] <rsully> the option does not exist
[18:45] <tatertots> see this http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.12/README/chapter-25.html
[18:45] <rsully> I think that is for 2 displays on 1 gpu, not for 2 gpus
[18:45] <rsully> all that says is multigpu... nothing new?
[18:45] <Rexodus> Never grasped the UTF8
[18:46] <tatertots> there is a section near The following other requirements apply to SLI and Multi-GPU:
[18:47] <rsully> tatertots yeah, twinview is for single gpu, not multi
[18:47] <tatertots> you have Multi-GPU toggled on right now i believe, make sure you also toggle Multi-GPU off and try configs
[18:48] <rsully> multigpu doesnt really have any affect.
[18:49] <varaindemian> is there anything better than f.lux?
[18:49] <Islah> uhh
[18:49] <Islah> no
[18:50] <Islah> f.Lux pretty much has the market
[18:50] <Islah> Are you unsatisfied with it?
[18:50] <dreais> yea there is something better
[18:50] <dreais> glasses
[18:50] <Islah> GUNNAR OPTIKS
[18:51] <dreais> anyway if someone can help my broken grub
[18:53] <Radiohead_> Hello there
[18:53] <Radiohead_> I cannot good english
[18:53] <Radiohead_> I live in germany
[18:54] <etyrnal> test
[18:54] <baizon> !de | Radiohead_
[18:56] <neomex> what do i install to have grub-mkrescue command?
[18:56] <nomic> neomex - sudo apt-get?
[18:56] <Rapture> when I run python -c 'import psutil' it works but python3 doesn't (says No module named psutil) - How would I fix this so sI can use oython3?
[18:57] <neomex> but what package nomic?
[18:57] <EriC^> neomex, grub-common
[18:57] <nomic> The program 'grub-mkrescue' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[18:57] <nomic> sudo apt install grub-common
[18:57] <EriC^> dreais, what's the problem?
[18:58] <dreais> i can't boot windows
[18:58] <dreais> i installed ubunto today and grub didn't show windows
[18:58] <EriC^> try sudo update-grub
[18:58] <dreais> so i modified a file (forgot its filename) and when it appeared there was an error
[18:58] <dreais> invalide signature
[18:58] <dreais> and i already did it
[18:58] <dreais> http://paste2.org/5C8HZUxc here is repairboot log
[18:59] <EriC^> which file did you modify?
[18:59] <dreais>  /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[19:00] <dreais> i put what i found on a topic
[19:01] <EriC^> dreais, type sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[19:02] <varaindemian> f.lux better alternative??
[19:02] <Chords> f.lux 9/10
[19:02] <dreais> ok im in, EriC^
[19:02] <dreais> what do i do now
[19:02] <FloxerDoom> how do i fix 16.04.1 if i get black screen + mouse pointer
[19:03] <Islah> reinstall it
[19:03] <FloxerDoom> again ?
[19:03] <tatertots> dreais have you tried boot repair and reinstall grub? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:03] <FloxerDoom> livecd does the sme
[19:03] <EriC^> dreais, put this http://paste.ubuntu.com/21929227/
[19:03] <Jordan_U> dreais: It looks like you deleted your Windows System Partition. Windows needs that partition to be able to boot.
[19:03] <dreais> yes tatertots
[19:03] <zteam> FloxerDoom, is this right after the install?
[19:04] <dreais> Jordan_U: http://paste2.org/5C8HZUxc
[19:04] <FloxerDoom> yes and allso from live version
[19:04] <dreais> the only partition i deleted was 30Mo and it was for windows 10 loader
[19:04] <dreais> so i guess it wasnt too bad
[19:04] <FloxerDoom> old laptop
[19:04] <EriC^> dreais, this should be the complete file http://paste.ubuntu.com/21929389/
[19:04] <FloxerDoom> from 2K4
[19:05] <EriC^> dreais, it is kind of bad
[19:05] <dreais> heh why
[19:05] <Jordan_U> dreais: That's where Windows' bootloader is stored. Without it Windows cannot boot.
[19:05] <dreais> wtf
[19:05] <dreais> it was written windows 10
[19:05] <dreais> im using seven
[19:05] <EriC^> dreais, type sudo apt-get install testdisk
[19:06] <dreais> ok
[19:06] <dreais> and i wrote the file you told me to
[19:06] <dreais> testdisk downloaded
[19:06] <EriC^> dreais, ok, try sudo update-grub
[19:06] <zteam> FloxerDoom, press CTRL+ALT+F2 now you should get a command prompt enter your login information, and after that run sudo apt-get update
[19:06] <FloxerDoom> i think ill stop trying installing ub on the old laptop and just settle on that one for win7
[19:06] <dreais> ok, done
[19:06] <FloxerDoom> okey
[19:06] <EriC^> dreais, ok, type sudo testdisk
[19:06] <FloxerDoom> but i have no connection ?
[19:06] <dreais> ok
[19:06] <dreais> something appeared
[19:06] <zteam> FloxerDoom, after that try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:07] <EriC^> dreais, nolog
[19:07] <dreais> ok, im in
[19:07] <EriC^> dreais, ok choose the disk then Intel
[19:07] <EriC^> analyze then quick search
[19:07] <dreais> ok, im in
[19:07] <dreais> analyzing
[19:08] <dreais> its done
[19:08] <EriC^> once it's done take a screenshot
[19:08] <EriC^> and upload it to imgur.com
[19:08] <dreais> www fk i havnt puush
[19:08] <FloxerDoom> nothing
[19:08] <FloxerDoom> its says 0 packages
[19:08] <dreais> where can i take a screen wwww
[19:08] <FloxerDoom> but im not online in terminal mode nor X wifi
[19:09] <EriC^> dreais, press prntscrn
[19:09] <dreais> brb upload
[19:09] <rick6860> I need some help understanding some PPD code to authenticate printing.
[19:09] <FloxerDoom> watchguard wireless lan without encryption but watchguard pass in browser secure layer
[19:09] <dreais> http://hpics.li/6618a82
[19:09] <dreais> is it bad ?
[19:09] <zteam> FloxerDoom, okey, plug in a cable and try to rerun those commands
[19:10] <EriC^> dreais, no, press continue
[19:10] <dreais> ok, continue again ?
[19:10] <EriC^> did you get quick search yet?
[19:11] <dreais> it was quick search
[19:11] <EriC^> try deeper search
[19:11] <dreais> well thats longer
[19:11] <EriC^> let it run for about 30secs
[19:11] <EriC^> then press enter
[19:11] <dreais> ok
[19:12] <dreais> done
[19:12] <dreais> screen again ?
[19:12] <EriC^> yeah
[19:12] <dreais> wait, its exactly the same
[19:12] <dreais> nothing changed
[19:13] <EriC^> dreais, ok, exit
[19:13] <dreais> ok
[19:13] <EriC^> try sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and see if you can set the ntfs partition to have the boot flag
[19:14] <dreais> the boot flag, you mean the * ?
[19:14] <EriC^> do you have a pastebin of before you deleted the partition by any chance?
[19:14] <EriC^> yeah
[19:14] <zteam> dreais obviosly TestDisk finds your drive to small, if that's true, you should follow TestDisks advice and check your bios settings etc
[19:14] <dreais> my drive is 500go
[19:14] <dreais> i put 25go for linux
[19:14] <dreais> 450 w7 and 20 for both
[19:14] <Islah> Does anyone have a reccomendation for a wifi usb dongle that is plug and play and will work on L(ubuntu) without any installation?
[19:14] <Jordan_U> EriC^: Won't help, as that partition doesn't have BCD on it.
[19:15] <dreais> http://hpics.li/e9696a7
[19:15] <Jordan_U> EriC^: (That said, I don't know what to do)
[19:15] <dreais> should i try to reboot and come back here ?
[19:16] <EriC^> dreais, no
[19:16] <dreais> and no i never did pastebin before i delete my partition
[19:16] <EriC^> try creating a partition at the very start using that 100M
[19:16] <Jordan_U> EriC^: Maybe testdisk was saying it couldn't recover the partition because dreais already has 4 primary partitions.
[19:17] <EriC^> then highlight it and see if it mentions a filesystem in the box
[19:17] <zteam> dreais, okey, that seems quite odd, have you guys changed CHS values in TestDisk or something?
[19:17] <EriC^> Jordan_U, oh good catch on the primaries
[19:17] <EriC^> dreais, delete the /dev/sda4
[19:17] <dreais> >to create more partition, first replace a primary with an extended partition
[19:17] <dreais> ok
[19:17] <EriC^> and create a partition at the start
[19:17] <dreais> wait, the swap ?
[19:18] <EriC^> yeah
[19:18] <dreais> ok, done
[19:18] <dreais> its sda4
[19:18] <EriC^> create the partition at the start
[19:18] <dreais> i did it
[19:18] <EriC^> use the default starting sector
[19:18] <dreais> it went sda4
[19:18] <rick6860> I could use some help with a network printer.
[19:18] <dreais> ok, its sda1 now
[19:18] <EriC^> ok does it say anything in the box when you highlight it?
[19:18] <dreais> the windows one goes 2 and linux 3
[19:19] <dreais> partition type: linux 83
[19:19] <dreais> filesystem: ntfs
[19:19] <dreais> nothing else, i guess
[19:19] <EriC^> dreais, highlight the first partition, 100M
[19:19] <dreais> that's what i just done
[19:19] <EriC^> ok does it say filesystem?
[19:19] <dreais> ntfs
[19:19] <EriC^> ok great
[19:20] <dreais> partition type is linux, normal ?
[19:20] <EriC^> set it as boot flag
[19:20] <EriC^> and write it
[19:20] <EriC^> yeah np
[19:20] <dreais> eee
[19:20] <EriC^> change the type to 07
[19:20] <dreais> do i have to delete the boot flag of sda 3 ?
[19:20] <EriC^> you can only have one flag
[19:20] <dreais> ok there u are
[19:21] <dreais> changed on 7
[19:21] <EriC^> write the changes
[19:21] <Jordan_U> EriC^: After changing the partition order grub will likely drop dreais to a rescue shell next boot unless they re-run grub-install or ensure that the partition number of the partition containing grub's $prefix hasn't changed.
[19:21] <EriC^> then quit and type sudo partprobe
[19:21] <dreais> done
[19:21] <EriC^> Jordan_U, aha
[19:22] <EriC^> dreais, ok type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:22] <dreais> ok done
[19:22] <EriC^> link?
[19:22] <dreais> http://termbin.com/ceya
[19:22] <dreais> sorry its french
[19:22] <EriC^> what you can do is extend the root partition fully then just use a swap file if you want swap
[19:23] <dreais> ..wait brb, got an emergency irl
[19:23] <dreais> is there private message ?
[19:23] <dreais> if yes just do it, sry
[19:24] <rick6860> First Started using MATE, I could get help here. Is this still the right place?
[19:26] <FloxerDoom> okey thkx zteam but when i get home
[19:26] <admin1> clear
[19:26] <zteam> FloxerDoom, No problem
[19:26] <admin1> Привет
[19:26] <admin1> Hello
[19:27] <jatt> !ru
[19:27] <admin1> Who in the skype
[19:27] <admin1> кто в скайп
[19:27] <admin1> Кош гусскрй
[19:29] <atmn> heyo
[19:29] <Jordan_U> dreais: Please run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" before you reboot (unless you're booted from a LiveUSB, i  which case you need to do a little more than that).
[19:30] <EriC^> dreais, also sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom and replace msdos2 with msdos1 , then save and run sudo update-grub
[19:30] <EriC^> might try without the menu entry stuff in 40_custom and just sudo update-grub and see if it picks up windows now
[19:31] <EriC^> dreais, ^
[19:31] <akik> !ru
[19:31] <Jordan_U> EriC^: If we did things properly, update-grub should just add an entry for the now complete Windows install automatically.
[19:32] <rick6860> Can someone tell me where on the internet I can go to get MATE help?
[19:32] <netham45> Is there any way to use my Intel IGPU on my 2500k and my GTX 970 at once? Would love to stretch my desktop over all my monitors.
[19:33] <ducasse> rick6860: if you're running ubuntu, just ask here
[19:34] <jatt> there is #ubuntu-mate
[19:35] <rick6860> ducasse, thanks
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> rick6860  let's hear it, what brings you here
[19:36] <rick6860> Can get a sharp multifunction printer to print. I thought is was an authentication issue, which is necessary, but turned that off and still won't print
[19:36] <dreais> hey EriC^ im back
[19:36] <dreais> ok lemme see
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> !cups | rick6860
[19:37] <dreais> im rebooting then
[19:37] <dreais> brb
[19:38] <rick6860> ubottu, I have done that. there is some code to authenticate. have added that to ppd file, but not sure what it all means.
[19:38] <Giuseppe6336> hi
[19:39] <rick6860> ubottu, here is the code.*OpenGroup: Authentication
[19:39] <rick6860> *% Base JCL key code option
[19:39] <rick6860> *OpenUI JCLPasscode/Key Code: PickOne
[19:39] <rick6860> *OrderDependency: 10 JCLSetup *JCLPasscode
[19:39] <rick6860> *DefaultJCLPasscode: None
[19:39] <rick6860> *JCLPasscode None/No Code: ""
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> rick6860  next time, use a pastebin ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:40] <jatt> jeez
[19:40] <Giuseppe6336> how to look for a film
[19:40] <dreqis> hey EriC[
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> Giuseppe6336  wrong channel
[19:40] <dreqis> eee its even worst; i had to go on my booted usb key
[19:41] <EriC^> dreqis, did you run sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
[19:41] <dreqis> i maybe missed something
[19:41] <dreqis> i dont even remember, wait
[19:42] <chris_> hello I just installed xubuntu 16.04.1 how to disable auto login?
[19:43] <dreqis> ok rip kb
[19:43] <dreqis> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'. EriC
[19:43] <jatt> chris_: it's disabled by default no?
[19:44] <dreqis> ok my kb is back at least
[19:44] <EriC^> dreqis, how big is your root partition?
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> chris_  in the system settings, most probably
[19:44] <chris_> jatt_: no I enabled it when I was installing now I want to disable it for security purposes
[19:45] <dreqis> huh dunno, i put 25go for linux, 450 windows, 20 for both and 100mo for the thing you told me
[19:45] <chris_> MonkeyDust_: How?
[19:45] <Smma88> can any body help me For Configurartion openvpn ?!
[19:45] <dreqis> right now im using my usb key with linux booted
[19:45] <EriC^> dreqis, ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[19:45] <dreqis> cause i got a weird error when i started
[19:45] <dreqis> ok done
[19:45] <Smma88> i just want to configure a simple openvpn for my test
[19:46] <dreqis> sorry about my nick, didnt notice the a went q
[19:46] <Smma88> do u have any tutoral about openvpn ?!
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> chris_  find the user settings
[19:47] <jzaw> Smma88, there is a freenode #openvpn  but even they will ask that you do some reading yourself
[19:47] <EriC^> dreqis, np, type the following
[19:47] <dreqis> ok
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> chris_  or ask in #xubuntu
[19:47] <EriC^> dreqis, for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[19:47] <dreqis> "done" as well, or.. ?
[19:47] <chris_> MonkeyDust_: ok thanks
[19:47] <jzaw> Smma88, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04
[19:47] <EriC^> dreqis, yeah
[19:47] <dreqis> ok, its done
[19:47] <Smma88> TNx alot
[19:48] <jzaw> 2nd link in startpage searches .. the first was for how to openvpn in ubuntu14
[19:48] <EriC^> dreqis, type sudo chroot /mnt
[19:48] <jzaw> Smma88, in any case that's for server ... so you take your pick   https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=configure+openvpn&cat=web&pl=opensearch&language=english_uk
[19:49] <dreqis> ok
[19:49] <dreqis> root@ubuntu: /#
[19:49] <dreqis> but the usb key isn't a problem, right ?
[19:49] <EriC^> dreqis, yeah
[19:49] <EriC^> dreqis, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[19:50] <dreqis> ok
[19:50] <dreqis> no error reported
[19:50] <EriC^> dreqis, type update-grub
[19:50] <dreqis> done
[19:50] <dreqis> found windows 10 loader on /dev/sda1
[19:50] <dreqis> OOO
[19:50] <EriC^> dreqis, type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:51] <dreqis> http://termbin.com/qmm4
[19:52] <EriC^> dreqis, nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[19:52] <EriC^> delete everything from menuentry til }
[19:52] <dreqis> so
[19:52] <dreqis> all i have left is menyentry
[19:52] <dreqis> }
[19:53] <dreqis> menuentry*
[19:53] <ForgottenRIP> Hey there
[19:53] <EriC^> delete it all except for the first 5 lines
[19:53] <EriC^> keep the stuff that start with #
[19:53] <floogy> Hi, I got issues to upgrade from tahar to xenial. util-linux, insserv, update-rc.d and perl (apt-pkg/cache.pm) are not installable.
[19:53] <EriC^> and before
[19:53] <dreqis> ok i have only 5 lines left
[19:53] <EriC^> dreqis, ok, save and update-grub again
[19:53] <dreqis> from #!/bin.. to # the exec
[19:53] <floogy> https://bpaste.net/show/e38bcaf8832c
[19:54] <dreqis> its done
[19:54] <EriC^> dreqis, type exit then reboot
[19:54] <floogy> https://bpaste.net/show/24ded7dabf32
[19:54] <dreqis> ok brb
[19:55] <floogy> I got one system that uzpgraded very flawlessy and now I'm chroot into the system that didn't upgraded.
[19:55] <arlion[w]> Hey, I'm getting dependency hell right now.
[19:55] <arlion[w]> libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.6) but 2.19-0ubuntu6.9 is installed
[19:55] <arlion[w]> and it is refusing me to force install me, any tips?
[19:55] <floogy> arlion try apt-get update again.
[19:56] <arlion[w]> I did, update, upgrade, clean, repeat install -f
[19:56] <arlion[w]> all don't work
[19:57] <floogy> try apt-show-versions and apt-get policy, to investigate the situation.
[19:57] <dreais> hey eric^
[19:57] <arlion[w]> apt-show-versions isn't installed and apt-get policy is an invalid operation
[19:57] <dreais> im back on an other pc
[19:57] <floogy> Unfortunately my other system now is  a mess, so that apt-get update nor apt-show-versions no longer work for me :(
[19:58] <EriC^> dreais, hey
[19:58] <dax> it's apt-cache policy, not apt-get policy
[19:58] <dreais> windows 10 appeared well, now windows is checking something about ntfs
[19:58] <dreais> didnt understand but i just let him do
[19:58] <floogy> sorry apt-cache policy  libc6-dev libc6
[19:58] <EriC^> dreais, yeah let it do its thing
[19:58] <dreais> maaaan
[19:58] <dreais> i love you
[19:59] <Smma88> jzaw: i read this article but i think it is so difficult to config do u have any simple article
[19:59] <dreais> (but tbh i tried to start ubuntu first, cause i misclicked, and it was stuck on a blackscreen)
[19:59] <arlion[w]> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/400065/70167963/
[19:59] <nettoweb> hey guys, everytime I loh in my ubuntu I get this error: -sh: 26: [[: not found
[19:59] <EriC^> dreais, might be a graphics issue
[19:59] <nettoweb> prevent bash from load. I dont know why this happened
[19:59] <dreais> i hope so
[19:59] <EriC^> try removing quiet splash and putting nomodeset
[20:00] <EriC^> !nomodeset | dreais check here
[20:00] <jzaw> Smma88, tbh it's ends up looking complicated but if you do it step by step ... that's what youve got to do
[20:00] <arlion[w]> nettoweb: check you /etc/profile or /etc/profile.d/ for imporper use of bash
[20:00] <dreais> anyway im taking you back when windows finishes it shit
[20:00] <jzaw> each step in itself is simple
[20:00] <dreais> oh, what's that
[20:00] <arlion[w]> nettoweb: or ~/.bashrc
[20:00] <jzaw> Smma88, do you need to set up a client or server & client ?
[20:01] <dreais> anyway brb
[20:01] <Smma88> just server side
[20:01] <EriC^> dreais, it's a parameter you can add in grub for graphics, ok
[20:01] <floogy> arlion, what does: apt-get install --reinstall libc6-dev
[20:01] <dreais> ok, i'll probably ask once again later coz im not on my PC yet
[20:02] <nettoweb> arlion[w] well, I didnt change anything, its a new ubuntu from AWS, but this is my file: https://gist.github.com/osnysantos/cd642302bbbe20a29fd40f2cd2cb77a9
[20:02] <arlion[w]> floogy: I just did that, it just loops into to the unmet depens error and doesn't attempt to re-install
[20:02] <Smma88> jzaw: i need to configure this for a match and i scared when i saw that article :D
[20:02] <jzaw> Smma88, windows or linux or *bsd ?
[20:02] <arlion[w]> nettoweb: okay, what is in your /etc/profile and /etc/profile.d/*
[20:03] <Smma88> jzaw: Linux Debian
[20:03] <jzaw> sorry you need it for a match ? to watch something via vpn ?
[20:03] <jzaw> then you need a vpn server *out there* and client at your end
[20:03] <ikonia> Smma88: we dont support debian here
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> Smma88  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[20:03] <ikonia> this is for ubuntu support only
[20:03] <ikonia> take it to #debian
[20:04] <Smma88> ikonia: OK
[20:04] <Smma88> Imean Ubuntu
[20:04] <ikonia> thanks
[20:04] <nettoweb> arlion[w] https://gist.github.com/osnysantos/cd642302bbbe20a29fd40f2cd2cb77a9
[20:04] <dreais> eric^ i went to the toilet and when i was back ubuntu was started
[20:04] <dreais> wtf happened
[20:04] <dreais> is that even normal
[20:04] <ikonia> dreais: tone down the language please
[20:04] <ikonia> there isn't a need for it
[20:04] <dreais> what
[20:04] <arlion[w]> nettoweb: post those files >.<
[20:05] <dreais> heh, sorry if its about "toilet"
[20:05] <Smma88> MonkeyDust: i dont have Configure thi yet
[20:05] <ikonia> dreais: no, "wtf" - thank about what it means
[20:05] <dreais> oh
[20:05] <dreais> lets say i told what the firetruck
[20:05] <Smma88> i just need a Simple configuration of Openvpn For my match
[20:05] <ikonia> dreais: lets just not say it
[20:05] <dreais> anyway ye ubuntu is back
[20:05] <ikonia> Smma88: try #debian
[20:06] <Smma88> ikonia: TNX
[20:06] <dreais> too late already
[20:07] <sysadmin> hello... I messed up GRUB after 16.04 installation. I had win 7 and 14.04 coexisting before no problem
[20:07] <sysadmin> how can I fix this?
[20:07] <ikonia> !grub2 > sysadmin
[20:07] <sysadmin> update-grub is no help
[20:07] <ikonia> you don't just do update grub
[20:07] <ikonia> read the link ubottu sent you
[20:08] <nettoweb> arlion[w] https://gist.github.com/osnysantos/cd642302bbbe20a29fd40f2cd2cb77a9
[20:08] <sysadmin> ok thank you
[20:09] <dreais> im back again, EriC^
[20:09] <dreais> should i try restarting again ?
[20:09] <tatertots> dreais good to see you're making progress with a working grub
[20:10] <EriC^> dreais, sure what the heck
[20:10] <arlion[w]> nettoweb: have you tried "reset" to see if clearning your terminal works
[20:10] <dreais> tatertots: same goes here, something is working i guess
[20:10] <Jordan_U> dreais: It's normal for Windows to reboot after it runs an automatic chkdsk, and upon reboot Ubuntu was the default entry in the grub menu.
[20:12] <dreais> OGOD
[20:12] <dreais> EriC^ i won't thanks you enough
[20:12] <dreais> you saved me
[20:12] <EriC^> dreais, no problem
[20:13] <dreais> thanks for the time you gave me, and good luck
[20:13] <dreais> bye guys, good day
[20:13] <EriC^> dreais, do you want to create swap?
[20:13] <dreais> OH
[20:13] <dreais> forgot about swap lmao
[20:13] <dreais> yea sure then
[20:13] <EriC^> dreais, ok boot the live usb
[20:13] <dreais> (that was close, i was about to leave haha)
[20:13] <dreais> ok
[20:13] <EriC^> is the linux install fresh or you have important stuff on it?
[20:14] <dreais> nothing really important, just sublime text and some scripts
[20:15] <EriC^> dreais, actually the part that is common between windows and linux
[20:15] <EriC^> is there anything on that?
[20:16] <dreais> nothing
[20:16] <EriC^> ok great
[20:16] <dreais> it was just in case
[20:16] <EriC^> type sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[20:16] <dreais> wait, lemme properly start the pc
[20:16] <EriC^> how much ram do you have?
[20:16] <dreais> i have 8go ram
[20:16] <EriC^> do you need hibernation?
[20:16]  * Amm0n drops a swapfile
[20:16] <dreais> hibernation ?
[20:16] <dreais> ww wait, lemme translate haha
[20:17] <EriC^> dormir a la disk
[20:17] <EriC^> :P
[20:17] <dreais> ..wat, doesn't make sense for me..
[20:17] <dreais> waat xD
[20:17] <dreais> ok brb launching trial ubuntu
[20:17] <EriC^> it's suspend but the pc fully shuts down, when you power it on it resumes
[20:17] <dreais> ohhhh that
[20:17] <dreais> no i never use it
[20:18] <EriC^> ok
[20:18] <dreais> do you need me to do sudo cfdisk /dev/sda?
[20:18] <EriC^> yeah
[20:18] <dreais> ok brb
[20:18] <EriC^> delete the 20gb partition
[20:18] <JDMartti> hey guys if i ever need ubuntu support is this a good place to aks
[20:18] <JDMartti> ask
[20:19] <EriC^> JDMartti, sure
[20:19] <JDMartti> ok cool
[20:19] <dreais_> im back, EriC^
[20:19] <al8989> hello i just received a notification from my muron software updater that a new version of kubuntu is available is it easy to do the upgrade once i hit the upgrade button?
[20:20] <EriC^> dreais_, ok, run sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[20:20] <dreais_> ok, i just read to delete the 20go partition
[20:20] <dreais_> that's done
[20:21] <EriC^> al8989, yeah
[20:21] <EriC^> dreais_, ok, create an extended partition
[20:21] <EriC^> with the whole remaining space
[20:21] <dreais_> ok, done
[20:21] <dreais_> so much free space, wow
[20:22] <EriC^> make a 23G partition type 07
[20:22] <al8989> wow ok cool what about like my windows wireless netwrok adapter driver will it still work or will in need to reinstall it, because wireless adapter only works with the windows driver installed
[20:22] <EriC^> and the rest as swap type 82
[20:22] <dreais_> 290 left for the swap
[20:22] <dreais_> is it enough
[20:22] <dreais_> ?
[20:22] <EriC^> 290?
[20:22] <dreais_> 290mo
[20:22] <EriC^> it should be around 2G left
[20:22] <EriC^> hmm
[20:22] <dreais_> na
[20:23] <dreais_> i got 23go left when i deleted that 20go part
[20:23] <EriC^> oh
[20:23] <dreais_> do you want me to resize to 22go -> 1.5go ?
[20:23] <dreais_> maybe worth
[20:23] <EriC^> make it 21G for the partition
[20:24] <EriC^> that's odd, something is off i feel
[20:24] <dreais_> well
[20:24] <dreais_> i can screen ?
[20:24] <EriC^> sure
[20:24] <dreais_> wait first
[20:24] <dreais_> lets finish
[20:24] <dreais_> so all i have left is 2.3
[20:24] <EriC^> ok, make a partition type 82
[20:24] <dreais_> done
[20:24] <EriC^> write changes then exit
[20:25] <dreais_> do i have to Write for every parts or when i do for one it does for all ?
[20:25] <EriC^> nope just once
[20:25] <dreais_> its done
[20:25] <EriC^> dreais_, sudo partprobe
[20:25] <dreais_> done
[20:25] <EriC^> then sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:25] <dreais_> http://termbin.com/t3a6
[20:26] <EriC^> dreais_, that's odd, the old table is still there
[20:26] <dreais_> wtf
[20:26] <dreais_> lemme check
[20:26] <dreais_> ok yup, didnt write correctly i guess
[20:26] <dreais_> brb redo
[20:27] <dreais_> http://termbin.com/119m
[20:27] <dreais_> yea that's better
[20:28] <dreais_> sorry something must've happened
[20:28] <EriC^> looks good
[20:28] <dreais_> but can you explain me what swap is concretely ?
[20:28] <sysadmin> ikonia: unfortunately it doesnt work. I have a black screen saying "grub loading stage 1.5". I am not able to go back to the Grub 2.0 screen.
[20:28] <EriC^> now sudo mkfs.ntfs -Q /dev/sda5
[20:29] <dreais_> "mkntfs completed successfully. Have a nice day."
[20:29] <dreais_> thanks, u2
[20:29] <EriC^> dreais_, swap is like a place where the kernel can move stuff from the ram to it
[20:29] <EriC^> it really said have a nice day?
[20:29] <EriC^> haha
[20:29] <dreais_> yea haha
[20:29] <dreais_> that suprised me too
[20:29] <EriC^> dreais_, ok, now for the swap
[20:30] <dreais_> im ready
[20:30] <EriC^> let's get lazy
[20:30] <dreais_> ahh
[20:30] <dreais_> i like to be lazy
[20:30] <EriC^> type sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[20:30] <EriC^> same here
[20:30] <dreais_> done
[20:31] <EriC^> type grep swap /mnt/etc/fstab
[20:31] <dreais_> "# swap was on /dev/sda4 during installation"
[20:31] <dreais_> with an other line bellow
[20:31] <user> how do i get around this error? http://i.imgur.com/IopXLSi.png
[20:32] <EriC^> then sudo mkswap -U <copy and paste the numbers you get next to UUID=...... /dev/sda6
[20:32] <EriC^> dreais_, highlight the numbers, then use middle mouse to paste
[20:32] <dreais_> 1a0f2d02-234b-4d6c-bd56-dc76c3ee8ac2
[20:32] <EriC^> sudo mkswap -U<PHONE_NUMBER>23 /dev/sda6
[20:32] <dreais_> that's pretty long
[20:32] <dreais_> "setting up blabla"
[20:33] <EriC^> dreais_, ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[20:33] <Gallomimia> user: i think that's caused by having your mirror set to somewhere that doesn't have the microsoft fonts. maybe change it temporarily? ask the bot in here for !info on that package
[20:33] <EriC^> then sudo swapon -a
[20:33] <dreais_> ok done
[20:33] <dreais_> a
[20:33] <user> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[20:33] <EriC^> sudo swapon -s
[20:34] <dreais_> kinda error
[20:34] <EriC^> what error
[20:34] <EriC^> about sudo?
[20:34] <dreais_> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu: Connection refused
[20:34] <dreais_> swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=1a0f2d02-234b-4d6c-bd56-dc76c3ee8ac2
[20:34] <EriC^> np
[20:34] <EriC^> hmm
[20:34] <dreais_> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu: Connection refused as well for sudo swapon -s
[20:34] <dreais_> oh
[20:34] <dreais_> why sudo
[20:34] <arlion[w]> do a blkid and make sure the kernel sees it and you are using the right UUID
[20:35] <EriC^> yeah it's not needed my bad
[20:35] <dreais_> i thought while root was active sudo wasn't needed
[20:35] <dreais_> anyway, swapon -a doesn't work
[20:35] <Gallomimia> correct
[20:35] <dreais_> still that "cannot find ..."
[20:35] <dreais_> should i try swapon -s too ?
[20:35] <EriC^> dreais_, (blkid /dev/sda6; cat /etc/fstab ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:35] <EriC^> no, try the above
[20:35] <Gallomimia> sounds like there's a small error in the uuid
[20:36] <dreais_> www
[20:36] <dreais_> nc: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
[20:36] <EriC^> oh, open another terminal and type sudo mount --bind /run /mnt/run
[20:36] <Gallomimia> you've got an issue with the resolver in the chroot
[20:36] <dreais_> done
[20:37] <EriC^> ok try it again in the chroot
[20:37] <dreais_> http://termbin.com/dtr1
[20:37] <Spec-Chum> Trying out the new Ubuntu bash on windows 10 :D
[20:37] <arlion[w]> Spec-Chum: get out
[20:38] <Spec-Chum> :p
[20:38] <dreais_> Gallomimia: sorry for not answering, im just trying to understand what's happening haha
[20:38] <EriC^> dreais_, try blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:38] <dreais_> beginners are beginners
[20:38] <EriC^> dreais_, ah
[20:38] <EriC^> dreais_, my bad
[20:38] <dreais_> http://termbin.com/0nd6
[20:38] <dreais_> ah ?
[20:38] <EriC^> i forgot to mount bind /dev
[20:39] <dreais_> so
[20:39] <dreais_> sudo mount bind /dev ?
[20:39] <EriC^> dreqis, for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[20:39] <theskillwithin> can i use a yubi key instead of typing sudo
[20:39] <arlion[w]> shouldn't swap dump be set to none
[20:39] <EriC^> run that in another terminal
[20:39] <CodeMouse92> it is possible via a PPA, but I need to know if downgrading PHP to 5.6 on Ubuntu 16.04 is a Bad Idea™
[20:39] <dreais_> ok its done
[20:39] <EriC^> dreais_, now try swapon -a in the chroot
[20:40] <dreais_> that worked
[20:40] <dreais_> nothing appeared
[20:40] <bekks> CodeMouse92: downgrading to php 5.6 is a bad idea, not only on 16.04
[20:40] <EriC^> ok try swapon -s
[20:40] <nacc> CodeMouse92: it's not supported, at least. I wouldn't recommend it
[20:40] <dreais_> ok, it works
[20:40] <CodeMouse92> bekks: The problem I face is that Phabricator does not support PHP 7.0, due to a missing feature in PHP
[20:40] <EriC^> dreais_, ok cool
[20:40] <CodeMouse92> bekks: I'm actually on 14.04 right now, but I'm not really happy staying there until 2018 (PHP 7.1, where they will add back in that feature)
[20:41] <dreais_> and what now ?
[20:41] <EriC^> dreais_, type exit then reboot
[20:41] <dreais_> okey, brb
[20:41] <bekks> CodeMouse92: 14.04 receives security updates until 2018. So its totally fine to stay with it.
[20:42] <CodeMouse92> bekks: Are there any particular risks for running a webserver on 14.04 that long, though?
[20:42] <nacc> CodeMouse92: run a trusty vm or lxd?
[20:42] <CodeMouse92> nacc: Not an option for Phabricator
[20:42] <CodeMouse92> At least my setup of it
[20:42] <bekks> CodeMouse92: No, since it is fully supported until 2018.
[20:43] <CodeMouse92> bekks: Meh, all right. One of those things, I guess. >.>
[20:43] <CodeMouse92> I wonder just how much PHP broke when they removed async signals in 7.0 >.<
[20:44] <bekks> CodeMouse92: All those ancient crap, where the devs didnt work on php7 compatibility :)
[20:45] <CodeMouse92> bekks: Oh, Phacility worked on PHP7 compat, it's just that async signals were an irreplacable piece of their system.
[20:45] <CodeMouse92> They're looking at being 7.1 compat, but 7.0 isn't possible due to that one feature
[20:45] <dreais> EriC^, im back on my boot usb
[20:45] <EriC^> dreais, why?
[20:45] <dreais> www
[20:45] <texla> upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04.1 when I log in my backlight is about 50% dark I can login about two other time and it is normal--How do I adjust backlight
[20:45] <dreais> i plugged it too early
[20:46] <dreais> sorry haha
[20:46] <EriC^> oh :D
[20:46] <dreais> want me to reboot ?
[20:46] <ubuntu862> hey guys can someone help me?
[20:46] <EriC^> up to you
[20:46] <dreais> if its not needed, i'd rather stay like that
[20:46] <EriC^> ubuntu862, ask
[20:46] <dreais> or is it over already
[20:46] <ubuntu862> i am having some trouble installing razercfg
[20:46] <ikonia> for the mouse ?
[20:47] <ubuntu862> yea for the mouse to change dpi
[20:47] <EriC^> dreais, yeah it's done
[20:47] <ikonia> don't bother
[20:47] <ikonia> it's too much effort to support and maintain
[20:47] <ikonia> do your best to configure it via xorg
[20:47] <dreais> yeaaayy
[20:47] <dreais> thanks !
[20:47] <dreais> just hope it will correctly work now
[20:47] <EriC^> dreais, no problem!
[20:48] <dreais> then im leaving you there, wish i won't come back for that kind of troubles
[20:48] <dreais> bye
[20:48] <EriC^> bye
[20:52] <texla> !backlight
[20:54] <texla> upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04.1 when I log in my backlight is about 50% dark I can login about two other time and it is normal--How do I adjust backlight
[20:59] <dahlia_> hi
[21:00] <dahlia_> how can i get information about paypal?
[21:00] <nacc> dahlia_: that doesn't seem on-topic for this channel.
[21:01] <dahlia_> nacc, i know where can i go then ?
[21:01] <bekks> dahlia_: https://www.paypal.com should answer all your question, and gives you various contact options in case it didnt.
[21:02] <theskillwithin> https://github.com/pjanouch/sensei-raw-ctl    after running cmake:    http://kopy.io/RmoSr
[21:02] <dahlia_> bekks, i just need to know if paypal can block visa card account
[21:02] <bekks> dahlia_: Ask them, not us :)
[21:02] <ikonia> nothing to do with this channel dahlia_
[21:03] <dahlia_> i live at iran
[21:03] <ikonia> that doesn't change anything
[21:04] <d0d1> d0d1 is here. Bow down!
[21:05] <ikonia> d0d1: please don't mess around
[21:05] <n0vacane> sorry ikonia, im just collecting events for my bot. i thought i had commented out that section. sorry
[21:06] <ikonia> no problem, accidents happen
[21:06] <ikonia> n0vacane: please remove the bot from the channel
[21:06] <ikonia> thanks
[21:06] <n0vacane> np
[21:30] <DWSR> Hey all, I have a Ubuntu 16.04 VM inside Hyper-V. I have expanded the VHD and corrected the GPT Table, as well as expanded the LVM partition, but lvextend tells me that the LV is the maximum size. What step am I missing?
[21:35] <hector_> hi
[21:38] <arlion[w]> DWSR: DWSR have you extend the physical volume in lvm?
[21:39] <arlion[w]> DWSR: pvs is the command to confirm
[21:39] <DWSR> arlion[w]: It says PSize 249.02g, PFree 0
[21:39] <DWSR> Even though the partition is now 399GB
[21:40] <arlion[w]> yeah, that's cause the physical volume wasn't expanded
[21:40] <arlion[w]> in lvm you gotta start from the bottom layer and work up
[21:41] <DWSR> Alright, I expanded the partition
[21:41] <arlion[w]> pvresize
[21:41] <arlion[w]> and then you will be able to do lvextend
[21:41] <DWSR> arlion[w]: How do I list the pvs?
[21:42] <arlion[w]> you can list physical volumes with pvs
[21:42] <DWSR> arlion[w]: I assume there's a shortcut for pvresize for max free space?
[21:42] <DWSR> Something like 100%FREE?
[21:43] <arlion[w]> just 100%
[21:43] <DWSR> Oh, just nothing
[21:43] <DWSR> That also does it.
[21:44] <arlion[w]> hmm... did that work?
[21:44] <DWSR> So once I have the pv extended, I need to extend the VG?
[21:44] <DWSR> It did.
[21:44] <arlion[w]> correct
[21:44] <DWSR> vgextend VG PV?
[21:44] <arlion[w]> vgextend vg00 /dev/sda4 /dev/sdn1
[21:44] <arlion[w]> is an example
[21:44] <DWSR> arlion[w]: Don't need to extend the vg in the case of extending the partition
[21:45] <DWSR> It's already picked up on it.
[21:45] <arlion[w]> awesome
[21:46] <philippe> bonsoir
[21:48] <moop_> I havent seen IRC for almost a decade
[21:48] <arlion[w]> We are alive and well
[21:48] <DWSR> arlion[w]: No shortcut for lvextend for max free space?
[21:49] <arlion[w]> lvextend -L +100% /dev/vg01/lvol10 /dev/sdk3
[21:50] <ProfessorKaos64> does anyone know where the best place is to get help/advice with packaging/pbuilder?
[21:51] <spyhermit> hey people, had a question about IPMI SOL on 16.04,
[21:52] <spyhermit> when I set it to 19200 I get clear text, when I set it to 115200 I get control characters
[21:52] <spyhermit> bios is set to 115200, serial in /etc/default/grub is set to 115200, I've done update-grub,
[21:53] <spyhermit> the strange part is that with it set to 115200, I get clear text in the grub menu, and clear text on loading the kernel, then ramdisk, then the garbage characters start after that
[21:53] <spyhermit> I've tried changing the tty config to 115200 instead of --keep-baud
[21:54] <spyhermit> makes no difference either way
[21:56] <bekks> DWSR: you need to expand the PV, then the LV.
[21:56] <DWSR> bekks: Got it, thank you though
[21:57] <bekks> DWSR: cheers :)
[21:58] <secure_linux> Hello everyone. I've got a quite simple question: I want to record a streamed TV program on a daily base using (command line) vlc performed as a cron job. The according command ends with "--sout=file/avi:tv_record.avi". Now I would simply like to add the current date to the filename - How could this be done?
[21:59] <listiatell> wazzap everyone? is there a way so gnome software center can show every app?
[21:59] <Ben64> secure_linux: maybe $(date +%F)
[22:00] <NRSail> how is the new gnome desktop?
[22:00] <NRSail> how much ram does it need
[22:00] <NRSail> & hi everyone
[22:00] <listiatell> NRSail, im not liking it
[22:01] <NRSail> oh :(
[22:01] <NRSail> how come
[22:01] <NRSail> I used to like gnome
[22:01] <k1l> NRSail: "the new gnome desktop"? gnome-shell is some years old already
[22:01] <listiatell> NRSail, it doesnt show all installable apps
[22:02] <NRSail> but lately i had Ram constraint and speed requirements
[22:02] <NRSail> opted for xfce
[22:02] <secure_linux> Unfortunately putting "$(date +%F)" in between the filename and ".avi" doesn't work
[22:02] <NRSail> gnome window manager environment
[22:02] <NRSail> whatever
[22:03] <listiatell> NRSail, sorry i thought you were talking about the new gnome software center
[22:03] <k1l> NRSail: well, details matter. there is the old gnome2. but since 2010 or such gnome provides the gnome-shell which uses the gnome3 codebase
[22:03] <NRSail> gnome 3 yes
[22:04] <DWSR> How can I permanently set an IP address on 16.04?
[22:04] <DWSR> 16.04 Server; nox;
[22:04] <k1l> NRSail: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME#Minimum_System_Requirements
[22:04] <Jordan_U> DWSR: Link local or routeable?
[22:04] <DWSR> routable.
[22:05] <DWSR> hrm. `routable` or `routeable`?
[22:05] <k1l> DWSR: usually that makes the router you use
[22:05] <DWSR> spellcheck hates both
[22:05] <Jordan_U> DWSR: Behind NAT?
[22:05] <NRSail> why are you not liking it?
[22:05] <DWSR> Jordan_U: Sorry, link-local. This is for an internal VM network
[22:05] <NRSail> thank k1l
[22:05] <Ben64> secure_linux: pastebin everything
[22:06] <NRSail> I may decide use gniome on next machine
[22:06] <NRSail> whate are the alternatives
[22:06] <NRSail> -i
[22:06] <k1l> NRSail: any linux desktop you like. ubuntu ships most of them in the repos
[22:06] <OerHeks> !flavor
[22:06] <NRSail> yes i know
[22:06] <NRSail> I like to ask to have soem hint
[22:06] <secure_linux> Nobody any idea how I could append the current date between "tv_record" and ".avi" in the command "cvlc [...] --sout=file/avi:tv_record.avi"?
[22:07] <Jordan_U> DWSR: Ok, then just configure a static ip address, outside the DHCP range (that last bit is important if you don't want random unpredictable failures) via /etc/network/interfaces .
[22:07] <spyhermit> secure_linux: change the filename to be in quotes with the date bit you specified already
[22:07] <NRSail> not always all the time to try everything new or updated
[22:07] <k1l> NRSail: we stick to actual technical issues in here. for chatting about ones best desktop better talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> secure_linux  if you don't get an answer here, ask in #ubuntustudio
[22:07] <NRSail> ok
[22:08] <spyhermit> --sout=file/avi:"tv_record$(date +%F).avi"
[22:09] <Jordan_U> DWSR: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[22:09] <secure_linux> spyhermit sorry, that doesn't work too
[22:10] <secure_linux> the resulting filename is "tv_recordF%.avi"
[22:10] <Ben64> secure_linux: pastebin everything
[22:10] <secure_linux> ok
[22:10] <Jordan_U> secure_linux: %F, not F%
[22:11] <secure_linux> ah yeah, that was my mistake
[22:11] <secure_linux> thanks a lot!
[22:11] <spyhermit> did it work?
[22:11] <secure_linux> yep
[22:11] <spyhermit> great, I get a beer.
[22:12] <secure_linux> You deserved it ;)
[22:12] <DWSR> Jordan_U: Thank you!
[22:12] <oaktree> yoo ubuntu
[22:12] <Jordan_U> DWSR: You're welcome.
[22:12] <oaktree> if anyone wants a dope white hat cyber sec community, 0x00sec.org
[22:13] <k1l> oaktree: no adverts in here, thanks
[22:14] <Guest88428> hello
[22:16] <DWSR> "dope white hat cyber sec"
[22:16] <toxik> I giggled  too
[22:16] <DWSR> Or, how to completely kill any potential interest in that site.
[22:18] <spyhermit> so, yeah, anyone have suggestions on the ipmi sol question I posed earlier?
[22:19] <Rivvirk> hi
[22:19] <peepsalot> is there a way to see when a package was last updated?
[22:20] <k1l> peepsalot: packages.ubuntu.com links the changelog at the right side for each package
[22:20] <peepsalot> i mean when it was applied locally, not when the repo updated
[22:20] <tgm4883> peepsalot: IDK of a command that would show that, but you could grep through your apt history log file
[22:20] <k1l> peepsalot: yeah, look at /var/log/apt/
[22:20] <tgm4883>  /var/log/apt/history.log
[22:23] <peepsalot> ok, thanks
[22:24] <spyhermit> hope you don't rotate that one.
[22:25] <f6k> hi o/
[22:33] <arooni> hey folks;  running ubuntu 14.04 on my t420 laptop... any reason i shouldn't upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 ?  it's now a point release right so most of the obvious bugs have been addressed?
[22:34] <spyhermit> can anyone point me in a direction at least with my ubuntu 16.04 ipmi sol question?
[22:35] <nacc> spyhermit: what was the question?
[22:35] <OerHeks> arooni, no reason for me not to check the releasenotes yourself? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[22:35] <nacc> arooni: did you read the release notes?
[22:35] <jkhl> possible to encrypt my hard drive now (_after_) installation?
[22:36] <OerHeks> jkhl, possible maybe, but takes more time than a fresh install
[22:36] <arooni> i am reading them now...
[22:36] <spyhermit> nacc: I'm trying to run ipmi sol on 16.04, when it gets past loading the ramdisk, I get garbage characters, and no login prompt
[22:36] <spyhermit> if I set it to 19200, it works perfectly
[22:37] <jkhl> OerHeks: simplest way to reinstall, keeping my data?
[22:37] <nacc> spyhermit: so it's a baud rate issue?
[22:37] <spyhermit> anything other than 19200 throws garbage characters. I've set the baud rate in the bios and in grub, I've tried manually overriding the agetty configs, I've reverted those now
[22:37] <OerHeks> jkhl, full disk encryption, or just your /home ?
[22:37] <k1l> spyhermit: sounds like a hardware limit?
[22:37] <jkhl> OerHeks: full disk
[22:37] <spyhermit> no, because it works on 12.04
[22:38] <OerHeks> jkhl, backup data then
[22:38] <jkhl> cool, thanks
[22:38] <OerHeks> this is just for your /home >>  http://www.howtogeek.com/116032/how-to-encrypt-your-home-folder-after-installing-ubuntu/
[22:38] <spyhermit> nacc: yes, it's a baud rate issue, but 115200 works in the grub menu and bios, but doesn't work during the boot process.
[22:39] <jkhl> cool
[22:39] <spyhermit> 57600 doesn't work either, it appears somewhere in the tty configuration, the baud rate does not get set properly, so it just throws garbage
[22:57] <ubuntu041> hello everyone
[22:57] <ubuntu041> i need some help before i throw this computer out the window
[22:57] <spyhermit> sweet, sounds good
[22:58] <Bashing-om> ubuntu041: Now, that is no way to talk about your best friend .
[22:58] <OerHeks> put it on a corner of a busy street, and run away, what is your issue?
[22:59] <spyhermit> guessing he already threw it out the window.
[23:00] <ubuntu041> ok so im working with network manager connecting my VPN my VPN needs to go thru port 1194 yesterday i was able to select port 1194 under advanced 'use custom gateway' today i click this option save and X out and go check if it kept the settings and no matter how many trys and going on root user i cannot click 'use custom gateway port it is not greyed out but just not selected even after a save on the root user
[23:01] <ubuntu041> i can select any other option and it will save it
[23:01] <ubuntu041> but not custom gateway port
[23:01] <spyhermit> what version of ubuntu, what vpn client?
[23:02] <ubuntu041> ipredator and ubuntu 12 i had this working on my other ubuntu and also have had it work well with windows and arch linux
[23:03] <ubuntu041> i can get it to work if i allow all ports but i shouldnt need to
[23:03] <ubuntu041> i could use ferm to firewall it up so it uses 1194 but i would like to have it set in network manager
[23:04] <SuperMechaCow> is anyone here good with virtualization?
[23:05] <spyhermit> I really have no idea. I'm guessing you'd have to check if there's an ipredator irc channel, it's not something I'm familiar with.
[23:05] <ubuntu041> yes supermechacow what are you using?
[23:05] <spyhermit> SuperMechaCow:^^ that
[23:05] <SuperMechaCow> qemu+kvm to do gpu passthrough
[23:05] <SuperMechaCow> i posted on the forums but no bites
[23:05] <arooni> i'm upgrading to ubuntu 16.04 ;  its asking me which default display manager to use>> i assume lightdm?
[23:05] <SuperMechaCow> lightdm
[23:06] <spyhermit> yeah
[23:06] <OerHeks> arooni, depends what desktop ou are on
[23:06] <ubuntu041> spyhermit: are you able to click the port option on your network manager
[23:06] <SuperMechaCow> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2332651
[23:06] <spyhermit> SuperMechaCow: fun, but I mostly run vps stuff on an enterprisy level
[23:06] <spyhermit> let me do some poking around
[23:06] <arooni> i just like the default
[23:06] <arooni> so i assume lightdm is that default
[23:06] <SuperMechaCow> spyhermit, I'm trying to run a windows gamer inside of my ubuntu
[23:07] <SuperMechaCow> arooni, yea lightdm loads unity
[23:07] <spyhermit> ubuntu041: I'm not running the gui on... 99.8% of the boxes I use
[23:07] <arooni> thanks folks
[23:07] <ubuntu041> spyhermit: thanks
[23:08] <deaincaelo> hihi.
[23:08] <ubuntu041> spyhermit: maybe a network manager reset will help
[23:09] <spyhermit> SuperMechaCow: https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough <-- did you try this guide?
[23:09] <ubuntu041> nope
[23:10] <deaincaelo> Noob audio question. Skype is using pulse audio and my mic works fine. (one channel disabled) Discord and Curse don't, and keep disabling my mic by leveling both channels. Any suggestions?
[23:10] <spyhermit> ubuntu041: this really sounds like some kind of an issue with a setting preventing the other settings from working
[23:10] <spyhermit> but I don't have enough experience to know what would cause that.
[23:10] <spyhermit> try backing up and then blowing away the profiles and see what happens?
[23:10] <SuperMechaCow> spyhermit, i'll read through it now. I'm on a live disk now while I move a partition
[23:10] <ubuntu041> spyhermit: indeed im thinking of doing a fresh install
[23:11] <spyhermit> sorry deaincaelo, I run server side so I have no experience with that
[23:12] <krizoek> rip btc
[23:13] <deaincaelo> Thanks anyway spyhermit. Do you play minecraft? I was thinking about trying to find a good modpack to run in ubuntu.
[23:15] <spyhermit> might talk to people in #ubuntu_offtopic, I'm actually here hoping someone runs servers and has experience with IPMI SOL
[23:16] <deaincaelo> fair enough.
[23:42] <alex5771> hi
[23:43] <bprompt> allo
[23:44] <alex5771> So I installed a live USB stick with Ubuntu,in unebutin I created 1 gig persistent partition. But when I start the liveUSb the whole thing is persistent,like by magic,across reboots.  I need it to not remember anything between reboots for security
[23:46] <YankDownUnder> alex5771: Why not create another user on that system, then delete the user as required...?
[23:47] <bprompt> alex5771:   I thought that is what persistent storage is for :)
[23:49] <Jordan_U> alex5771: If you don't want persistance then get rid of the casper-rw partition. I'm now wondering what you were trying to accomplish by adding persistance in the first place though. What is your end goal?
[23:49] <YankDownUnder> bprompt: It is...however, that being said, even on the "liveUSB" data will be kept in between reboots/re-use...minor, but still data...therefore, if you really want to be secure, you create a new user. use that account, then delete the account when you're done...OR...use a CD/DVD - obviously, you can't write data to a CD/DVD...
[23:49] <bprompt> YankDownUnder:    sounds like an option :)
[23:49] <alex5771> The goal is to have a separate partition on USB stick for persitence ext3,but everything else should not be persistent. So things which I explicitly want to store across reboots get stored
[23:49] <Jordan_U> YankDownUnder: Without persistance what data are you talking about that is kept?
[23:50] <alex5771> if i want to save a file,i will move it to that /data partition
[23:50] <YankDownUnder> Jordan_U: There is still residual data left in the ~/ directory. Test it, you'll see what I mean.
[23:50] <Jordan_U> alex5771: That's not "persistance" then, that's just a data partition. Change the filesystem label so tha it's not "casper-rw".
[23:51] <alex5771> where do i change it?
[23:51] <YankDownUnder> I've been in this situation (more than a heap of times) and the result is that I use a "persistent" USB but create/delete accounts as required...works best...FOR ME...
[23:51] <Jordan_U> YankDownUnder: I have tested it, and I'm also familiar with the implementation. Your experience doesn't match my experience or understanding. unless you have a casper-rw partition.
[23:52] <alex5771> My problem is that I dont want it to even hit the memeory chip on a stick,for security reasons,i want it all in RAM, if i loose the thing,i want to be 100% sure no one can recover my sessions. Deleting things,is an explicit action,which I might not be able to take if power is out
[23:54] <alex5771> where is that casper-rw on a stick?is it a file or partition?
[23:54] <Jordan_U> alex5771: I think you can change the filesystem label with GParted, if not then (carefully) "sudo tune2fs -L new_label_here /dev/sdXY". Where sdXY is the partition currently labeled casper-rw.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> alex5771: It's an attribute of the filesystem on the partition.
[23:56] <Jordan_U> alex5771: Also make sure that no swap partitions from your local drives are being used automatically. I don't remember off hand if Ubuntu Live systems automatically use detected swap partitions.


[11:45] <kholkina> hi all! I have a question regarding user-data update. I have updated a user-data via openstack nova and now I have a new value when chek it via http://<IP_ADDRESS>/2009-04-04/user-data. Also I added [scripts_users, always] in the config file. But it still doesn't work on reboot. When I delete obj.pkl manually and reboot it works fine. But I think it's not the better way
[13:47] <niluje> smoser: <3
[13:48] <niluje> just noticed you merged the scaleway datasource for xenial on December
[13:48] <niluje> thanks for the xmas gift :)
[14:40] <smoser> niluje: \o/
[15:10] <niluje> "caribou" joined us on monday :p
[19:10] <dojordan> @smoser, can you take a look at my latest iteration? I proposed and implemented a solution that works post xenial: https://code.launchpad.net/~dojordan/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/334341
[19:18] <ajorg> I found what I think is an interesting (bug?) behavior...
[19:19] <ajorg> If you are using NoCloud (via an ISO attached to a VM) and you remove the ISO, the next time you boot it will decide you're using None instead of NoCloud and it will re-initialize.
[19:20] <ajorg> I'm not sure how to improve this behavior, but I wonder if using the DMI UUID or serial for both None and NoCloud would fix it.
[19:21] <ajorg> I suspect similar behavior would be shown if you denied access to the instance metadata on an EC2 instance early enough that cloud-init couldn't read it.
[19:22] <smoser> ajorg: that is correct.
[19:22] <smoser> yeah, we could use the dmi uuid (as some other clouds do).  and keep that.
[19:23] <smoser> there is also 'manual_cache_clean' that you can set
[19:23] <smoser> and then you can remove the disk.
[19:23] <ajorg> If we use the same ID for both NoCloud and None will it detect that cloud-init has already run even though it has changed clouds?
[19:25] <ajorg> A note that says "please don't remove the ISO or this will happen" in the docs would also be a good start.
[20:29] <smoser> blackboxsw:
[20:29] <smoser> https://git.launchpad.net/~dojordan/cloud-init/commit/?id=7f23e5c4808a9c647cd4d5277625a723a58b132b
[20:29] <smoser> "on ubuntu release > xenial we rely on systemd-networkd"
[20:29] <smoser> do you know if that is correct ?
[20:31] <blackboxsw> reading
[20:34] <blackboxsw> smoser: for artful and bionic I know that's true... not sure about zesty. I don't recall, but I'll spin one up now
[20:34] <blackboxsw> I left nearly the same log message on dropping ifupdown Azure stuff in my commit
[20:34] <blackboxsw> ￼"    In artful and bionic ifupdown package is no longer installed in default
[20:34] <blackboxsw>     cloud images. As such, Azure can't use those tools to bounce the network
[20:34] <blackboxsw>     informing DDNS about hostname changes."
[20:35] <smoser> blackboxsw: i just commented there
[20:35] <smoser> mwhudson says that you and i are blowing smoke
[21:09] <blackboxsw> " the data thre is new and will get documented more as we go.
[21:09] <blackboxsw> That function will make its way back to 16.04 in a cloud-init SRU in the next month or so." .... smoser I'll make a card for that.
[21:09] <blackboxsw> I should have shoved something into RTD when we added instance-data.json, but we can get it in soon
[21:10] <blackboxsw> I kinda figured we needed to do it with the jinja-template handling too
[21:11] <dojordan> @blackboxsw unrelated, but do you know where the SendHostname=true flag lives?
[21:12] <blackboxsw> smoser: yeah you pointed me at his comment there that systemd isn't handling publishing dhcp info on hostname change..... I thought I ran on azure artful and bionic and the update did happen, but I don't know what triggered it. hrm.
[21:12] <dojordan> I actually can't find that flag anywhere actually being set
[21:14] <dojordan> Im looking at an artful azure VM now, and I checked /lib/systemd/network, /run/systemd/network, /etc/systemd/network
[21:15] <blackboxsw> dojordan: cloud-init doesn't set it, I only read the docs on it as default behavior if unset. I can see in systemd during dhcp client config refresh they check for said flag... but I can't confirm whether something sets that up.
[21:15]  * blackboxsw needs to look at this again it seems. my recall is dusty on what I originally tested/saw on artful and bionic. I'll spin up azure vms for testing now
[21:16] <dojordan> Gotcha, ill enable the flag and look for a dhcp request
[21:24] <dojordan> what's the policy in cloud-init about restarting another service? Manual testing seems to confirm what michael said in bug 1739516 that changing the hostname doesn't appear to actually send a DHCP request
[21:25] <smoser> dojordan: well if we have to bounce it, we can
[21:25] <blackboxsw> dojordan: so systemd-networkd docs say the SendHostname=true needs to be in the [DHCP] section of the configs. I see that DHCP section in /run/systemd/network/10-netplan-eth0.network.... but I'm guessing we could provided a /etc/systemd/network/11-something.network  file containing [DHCP]\bSendHostname=true  if needed? (shot in the dark as I'm working off docs at the moment
[21:25] <smoser> ads we have before
[21:25] <smoser> it'd be nicer if you coudl bounce *that* inteface
[21:25] <smoser> rather than restarting the service
[21:26] <smoser> i'm somwwhat concerned about restartign the service during boot, but we will see.
[21:26] <blackboxsw> that's just me RTFMing though. poking at an azure instance in a min here to confirm
[21:27] <blackboxsw> smoser: rharper do we know if netplan configs allow you to post arbitrary dhcp config options, or just dhcp4: on dhcp6: on etc
[21:27] <blackboxsw> s/on/true
[21:28]  * blackboxsw doesn't see anything that looks like it at http://people.canonical.com/~mtrudel/netplan/
[21:28] <blackboxsw> not sure if that's the 'canonical' source for netplan docs though
[21:28] <rharper> blackboxsw: netplan does not expose arbitrary dhcp options; I think accept-ra is the exception at this time
[21:29] <smoser> what was the flag we were interested in ?
[21:29] <rharper> SendHostname; but I do wonder if we can figure out what's going on before we start exposing these sorts of things in the top-level yaml;
[21:30] <rharper> is this some sort of dynamic dns update based on hostname from a dhclient request ? or is it doing something else with this specific mechanism
[21:30] <dojordan> I think the flag is simply whether or nor to send the hostname when sending a dhcp request, but not actually sending dhcp everytime the hostname is changed
[21:31] <cyphermox> smoser, rharper: SendHostname is default in systemd.
[21:31] <rharper> it's just sent when the client attempts to obtain (or renew) a lease IIUC
[21:32] <cyphermox> (so is UseHostname=, which is meant to use the hostname that DHCP hands out)
[21:32] <dojordan> gotcha, so we won't be able to rely on that to force a new dhcp
[21:32] <cyphermox> what is this about?
[21:33] <dojordan> basically we (azure) need a way to force a dhcp request to acquire a new IP in certain circumstances
[21:33] <dojordan> we used to use ifdown/ifup but post xenial we no longer have those binaries installed by default
[21:34] <cyphermox> dojordan: wouldn't the "right way" be to have the DHCP server send a DHCPNAK?
[21:34] <cyphermox> assuming that works "out of line"
[21:37] <dojordan> or the other right way would be to use leases less than 2^23 - 1 seconds... but unfortunately in our stack the dhcp server is not aware of when to send the DHCPNAK
[21:37] <cyphermox> right
[21:38] <cyphermox> short leases obviate the issue of "we need to force the client to re-configure now", at the cost of more packets happening on the network
[21:38] <cyphermox> whereas DHCPNAK or doing stuff on the client means there needs to be code that decides it's time to reconfigure outside of the lease expiry time
[21:40] <cyphermox> is the client or infrastructure more likely to know what set of circumstances the client should do DHCP again?
[21:40] <dojordan> client
[21:41] <cyphermox> (my guess is the server should always be authoritative, but I don't know of your use case)
[21:41] <cyphermox> ah, interesting
[21:41] <dojordan> i guess we could just run dhclient -r?
[21:41] <dojordan> i can elaborate on the scenario:
[21:41] <cyphermox> dojordan: dhclient isn't what's doing DHCP when using systemd-networkd.
[21:41] <dojordan> oh right... and systemd-network doesn't expose the same api?
[21:42] <cyphermox> I don't think it exposes that, but I'm not sure :)
[21:43] <dojordan> thinking outside the box, can we delete the dhcp lease files? does that retrigger it?
[21:43] <smoser> dojordan: this m ight become easier (and more easily use dhclient sandboxed) if we get to running in local time.
[21:44] <dojordan> sorry didn't quite catch that
[21:44] <nazarewk> hlelo
[21:44] <smoser> oh. hm.
[21:44] <nazarewk> *hello
[21:44] <smoser> wait.
[21:44] <nazarewk> how does this project relate to CoreOS cloud-init and RancherOS cloud-init?
[21:45] <smoser> now i'm confused.
[21:45] <cyphermox> dojordan: I don't think it would trigger it, but you might be able to just restart systemd-networkd without adverse consequences
[21:45] <smoser> nazarewk: no. coreos is not here.
[21:45]  * smoser googles rancheros
[21:45] <nazarewk> smoser: i'm researching cloud operating systems
[21:45] <dojordan> that was my though too, just wanted to make sure it would be safe
[21:45] <smoser> dojordan: we run azure datasource at local
[21:46] <smoser> meaning proper system configured networking isnt up yet.
[21:46] <nazarewk> after going through coreos (deprecated cloud-init), RancherOS (forked from CoreOS cloud-init) i stumbled upon configuring Project Atomic with cloud-init
[21:46] <smoser> now i'm confused.
[21:46] <nazarewk> and saw that is some wide standard
[21:46] <cyphermox> smoser: again?
[21:46] <cyphermox> ;)
[21:46] <nazarewk> any idea how those 3 (or 2 i guess) relate to each other?
[21:47] <smoser> well, project atomic to my knowledge uses this cloud-init
[21:47] <smoser> (as contributors from redhat have added that support)
[21:48] <nazarewk> i already know that, i am more interested in how cloud-init came to be
[21:48] <nazarewk> i can't find any info on where it came from
[21:49] <nazarewk> ok looks like i found this
[21:49] <nazarewk> https://github.com/coreos/coreos-cloudinit#configuration-with-cloud-config
[21:51] <cyphermox> dojordan: so, I guess what you would need to do depends on what the circumstances are in which a client needs to restart DHCP, if it's because new information was received from the datasource, maybe the best is for cloud-init to restart systemd-networkd when it finds out, if systemd-networkd is even running
[21:52] <cyphermox> OTOH, if it's potentially hours after boot, then some agent would need to do it, if it's safe.
[21:52] <dojordan> so the reason this matters is if we hit our instance metadata service with a stale IP, it doesn't recognize it and the client will throw an exception
[21:52] <dojordan> so we catch it and bounce the nic (on xenial)
[21:53] <cyphermox> so this isn't actually doing any real DHCP?
[21:53] <cyphermox> otherwise you'd have the lease times to tell you when to renew, so you theoretically never have a stale IP
[21:53] <dojordan> our leases are infinite
[21:54] <dojordan> but it is doing real DHCP in the sense we are getting a new ip,dns,subnet, etc
[21:54] <dojordan> the reason it could be stale is our platform is moving a vm from one vnet to another
[21:54] <cyphermox> yes, but I mean even if the IP belongs to you forever, a short lease will have you ping the DHCP server periodically and possibly get new information
[21:54] <cyphermox> ah
[21:57] <dojordan> @smoser, not entirely sure when systemd-networkd is running, but I have confirmed in testing that in my current PR we do successfully hit the instance metadata server in our data source. So I guess some parts of the networking stack are setup?
[22:01] <smoser> dojordan: right.
[22:01] <smoser> thats what is confusing to me
[22:01] <smoser> i think you are actually ending up "bouncing" the network that wasnt up yet
[22:02] <smoser> but not sure. i'm looking at that.
[22:05] <rharper> what stage is cloud-init at when it's time to bounce? has cloud-init net already run? is that what we're trying to determine ?
[22:05] <dojordan> yeah, this is during _get_data within the AzureDataSource, so if it is in local then network has yet to run
[22:07] <rharper> then it won't yet be up; yeah
[22:07] <smoser> right
[22:07] <rharper> and then the resume *shouldn't* need to kick dhcp since it never leased anything anyhow; execpt how are we polling metadata service to know when it's time to come up again ?
[22:08] <smoser> right
[22:08] <smoser> i think it came up because we bounced it
[22:09] <smoser> so it ran 'ifdown; ifup' and it came up. since the ifdown didnt do anthing
[22:09] <smoser> thats my hypothesis
[22:09] <smoser> on xenial
[22:09] <dojordan> i think you're right
[22:10] <dojordan> so theoretically it wouldn't work > xenial as there is no ifup
[22:10] <rharper> w.r.t the systemd path;  if were in the same boat; I think an ip link set down on the interface that needs to bounce may be enough for systemd-networkd to allow a restart to kick DHCP again
[22:10] <rharper> that's something testable
[22:11] <dojordan> yes i am actually testing that later this week or early next
[22:11] <dojordan> waiting for the networking team...
[22:11] <dojordan> but they claimed changing the link state of the interface (removing and re adding the nic from our hypervisor) didn't trigger dhcp in the vm.
[22:12] <smoser> dojordan: since we're running at local time frame, we dont have to "bounce"
[22:12] <smoser> and we can use somethign more like the ec2 datasource
[22:12] <dojordan> sounds good
[22:12] <rharper> dojordan: that make sense as it never DHCP'd in the first place;
[22:12] <smoser> which does a dhclient, gets its network info, then we can use the 'EphemeralIPV4Network' context manager
[22:12] <smoser> to hit the datasource, and timeout and do it all again
[22:13] <dojordan> beauty
[22:13] <dojordan> i like it
[22:13] <rharper> but what remains is, while it's sleeping, how can it know when it's time to wake-up  if we don't have a network interface up to poll a URL ?
[22:13] <dojordan> we bring up a temporary one
[22:13] <smoser> rharper: right now, if uyou're looking at his branch it runs
[22:13] <smoser> self.bounce_network_with_azure_hostname
[22:13] <smoser> in _reprovision
[22:13] <smoser> and that does
[22:13] <dojordan> (just to confirm) the ec2 ephemeralipv4network hits the dhcp server?
[22:13] <smoser>  sh -c 'ifdown eth0; ifup eth0'
[22:13] <smoser> which ends up bringing it up the first time through
[22:14] <smoser> and relying on "stale" networking configuration to do so
[22:14] <smoser> dojordan: look at the ec2 code you shuld be able to see.
[22:14] <rharper> but, the ifup eth0 isn't sufficient in local; there's no eth0 network config to indicate it needs to DHCP
[22:14] <rharper> at least in > xenial
[22:15] <rharper> or at least I'm not sure we write out the network config for it starts "sleep waiting"
[22:15] <smoser> this hunk in _get_data
[22:15] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26368525/
[22:15] <smoser> we'd just do
[22:16] <rharper> oh, EC2 does, but not in Azure at this time
[22:16] <smoser> with net.EphemeralIpv4Network(**net_params):
[22:16] <smoser> right
[22:16] <smoser> so i'm saying something like:
[22:16] <smoser> while True:
[22:17] <smoser>     dhcp_leases = dhcp.maybe_perform_dhcp_discovery(self.fallback_interface)
[22:17] <smoser>     if not dhcp_leases:
[22:17] <smoser>         something_bad
[22:17] <smoser>       with net.Ephem....
[22:17] <smoser>         hit MD service
[22:17] <smoser>         on happy path break
[22:18] <smoser> that is terrible i realize , buti think maybe explains it.
[22:18] <rharper> right;  the net.Eph dhcp stuff; how did we work around requiring dhclient ? or do we keep that present ?for Artful + Bionic ?
[22:19] <smoser> we require dhclient
[22:20] <blackboxsw> nazarewk: I believe cloud-init originated here, with these folks, originally a Canonical internal product  that garnered broad adoption and was picked up a supported by other OSes and clouds. :) https://www.podcastinit.com/cloud-init-with-scott-moser-episode-126/
[22:20] <blackboxsw> :)
[22:25] <blackboxsw> smoser: per the suggestion about the poll_imds looping.... right we should be able to call maybe_permform_dhcp_discovery which attempts dhclient queries using the fallback nic. and returns an empty list if dhclient doesn't exist or can't get an ip address
[22:26] <blackboxsw> you're pastebin explains what we do currently in ec2 which could apply here in azure too https://paste.ubuntu.com/26368525/
[22:27] <smoser> i hope dojordan follows. i think blackboxsw and rharper do, but ih ave to run.
[22:27] <smoser> i'll look in tomorrow on it a bit dojordan
[22:27] <blackboxsw> dojordan: (just to confirm) the ec2 ephemeralipv4network hits the dhcp server?.... Ephemeral ipv4 network uses the response for maybe_perform_dhcp_discovery
[22:30] <blackboxsw> you provide it with a params interface, ip, prefix_or_mask broadcast and router all of which maybe_perform_dhcp_discovery returns
[22:30] <blackboxsw> you provide it with the params (interface, ip, prefix_or_mask broadcast and router) all of which maybe_perform_dhcp_discovery returns
[22:33] <blackboxsw> the specific use (which could be nearly the same for Azure) is here https://git.launchpad.net/cloud-init/tree/cloudinit/sources/DataSourceEc2.py?id=78372f16d2711812793196aa8003ad51693ca472#n105
[22:34] <blackboxsw> though within the with net.EphemeralIPv4Network context youc could do your polling of IMDS
[22:35] <blackboxsw> as that EphemeralIPv4Network context manager serves only to temporarily bring up a network interface to allow you to hit an external URL. Then it tears that interface back down
[22:37] <blackboxsw> so it basically performs whatever static network setup is required (including routes) on a given interface  for your context and then any setup it needed to perform it tears down upon __exit__
[22:39] <dojordan> yeah I will play around with it this afternoon, I might make a modification to add retry support though
[22:39] <blackboxsw> I'm +1 on retries, I like those more that while Trues :)
[22:51] <dojordan> haha yeah a little scary typing that


[19:32] <on3pk> is there a way to increase the timeout when starting multipass instances?  I'm having an issue wher multipass is reporting that starting an instance is timing out.  Eventually the instance starts and it's possible to SSH into the instance using it's IP, but not multipass shell because multipass doesn't know it's running
[19:32] <on3pk> (or rather, it's in an unknown state when checked with multipass list)
[19:34] <ChrisTownsend> on3pk: Hi on3pk, there is a `--timeout` option you can pass to `start`.  See `multipass start --help`.
[19:37] <on3pk> thanks.  when it's in an unknown state, is killing the qemu process a worthwhile thing to do?
[19:40] <ChrisTownsend> Well, killing the process out from underneath multipass will probably get multipass confused.  When you say you are about the SSH directly into the instance, how are you getting the IP address?
[19:42] <on3pk> I was using journalctl to see what happens when I try to start an instance
[19:44] <ChrisTownsend> Ok, what's weird is that multipass is not discovering the IP address from the dnsmasq.leases file.  What host are you using?
[19:45] <on3pk> ubuntu
[19:45] <on3pk> 22.04 I think
[19:46] <ChrisTownsend> Ok, that's fine.  Does this only happen for this particular instance or any instance you start/launch?
[19:51] <on3pk> this is the only instance on the machine.  I'm trying to launch a new instance now
[20:08] <on3pk> ok, so it timed out for the initialization to complete, too
[20:09] <ChrisTownsend> Oh, initialization, do you have a custom cloud-init that is doing quite a bit of stuff?
[20:11] <on3pk> not that I'm aware of.  Everything is default
[20:12] <ChrisTownsend> You are seeing the message "timed out waiting for initialization to complete", correct?
[20:14] <on3pk> [2023-01-13T19:51:21.884] [error] [qemu factory] Qemu failed to start: program: qemu-system-x86_64; error: Process operation timed out
[20:14] <on3pk> timed out waiting for initialization to complete
[20:20] <ChrisTownsend> That error message is strange as that message comes when probing the qemu version.  And the "timed out waiting for initialization to complete" means that multipass is able to communicate with the instance, but `cloud-init` is failing or not completing in time.  There is definitely something going on here that is not normal.  Would it possible for you to provide the logs: https://multipass.run/docs/accessing-logs#heading--linux
[22:30] <on3pk> I tried to launch the instance with a timeout of 900 seconds and it still failed :|
[23:31] <on3pk> well I think I might have found one of the problems
[23:32] <on3pk> disk i/o is on the order of "really, really bad".  Read       | 162.00 KB/s Write      | 243.00 KB/s


[02:35] <elky> AlanBell, pong?
[02:38] <rww> AlanBell: we need to actually figure out a time for that voting thing, too. I completely forgot about it :S
[07:51] <AlanBell> rww: ah yes the voteymagig thing
[07:51] <AlanBell> akgraner: rww any time in the next 14 hours or so would be fine for me
[07:52] <rww> @now Europe/London
[07:53] <rww> oh, we don't have ubottu. nvm.
[07:53] <elky> we have ubot4...
[07:54] <rww> AlanBell: is it 0700 or 0800 where you are?
[07:57] <rww> either way, hrm. It's midnight here, I have work from 1100 to 1600, so it would have to be either in the next two hours or between eight hours and ten hours from now.
[08:02] <AlanBell> rww: it is 08:00
[08:03] <AlanBell> rww: midnight sounds a bit late to be starting something
[08:03] <rww> AlanBell: I usually sleep 2am to 10am ;P
[08:04] <rww> I don't think akgraner's around right now, though, so it might be better to plan something Sunday/next week to make sure we can all do it?
[08:04] <AlanBell> I wonder why the clone bots don't have the time plugin it is rather handy
[08:04] <AlanBell> yeah, that sounds like a good plan
[08:08] <AlanBell> how about 20:00 UTC today/tomorrow?
[08:08] <AlanBell> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=5&month=6&year=2010&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=136
[08:08] <rww> I'm working until 2300 UTC
[08:09] <AlanBell> hmm, thats midnight for me
[08:10] <rww> hrm
[08:10] <AlanBell> same for tomorrow?
[08:10]  * rww double-checks the dates involved here
[08:11] <rww> Tomorrow (Sunday), I'm working 2pm to 6pm my time, so 2200 to 0200 Monday your time
[08:11] <rww> so a couple of hours before then would work
[08:12] <AlanBell> yep, before then would be great
[08:12] <rww> I'd guess we won't need more than an hour?
[08:13] <AlanBell> shouldn't think so
[08:13] <AlanBell> ok, lets try to catch akgraner at some point then
[08:14] <rww> only downside is that that's early-afternoon in akgranerland, and she might be busy on Sundays, iono
[08:14] <rww> but we can figure something out hopefully
[08:14] <AlanBell> yup
[08:16] <AlanBell> elky: want to talk about the ufa stuff?
[08:17] <elky> what about it?
[08:25] <maco> whats ufa?
[08:26] <elky> ubuntuforall
[08:26] <elky> something jono came up with in 2007, i set up wiki info and a mailing list, then nobody, not even jono, had any input for it.
[08:29] <czajkowski> maco: late one for you
[08:29] <maco> yeah im staying up all night. have a report to finish
[08:29] <maco> ooh ok i remember it just never saw it abbreviated
[08:34] <czajkowski> maco: when is i due?
[08:34] <maco> tonight
[08:34] <maco> more like a few hours ago but meh
[08:34] <maco> im going with "email it before the professor wakes up"
[08:34] <czajkowski> ah tis still friday
[08:35] <maco> yes its friday til i wake up on saturday ;-)
[08:35] <czajkowski> maco: get off irc maddem
[08:35] <czajkowski> :p
[08:35] <valorie> maco is sounding a bit burnt out
[08:35] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} to maco
[08:35] <maco> yeah i know. i was takin a break between papers. i already turned in one of the 2 three hours ago
[08:36] <czajkowski> maco: shite
[08:36] <czajkowski> maco: talk about pressure
[08:36] <czajkowski> maco: hope you get it done and then SLEEEP
[08:38] <elky> I anticipate we'll see her again next week sometime :P