[00:00] <BillyZane> i want to start a new GUI session. i pressed ctrl+alt+F2 and logged in, i typed startx and it puts me in to cinnamon. does anyone know how to start the login session so i can choose which desktop environment i want
[00:00] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, is there a space between 1a\ and the text?
[00:01] <PublicStaticVoid> BillyZane: you can change the preferred DE in your ~/.xinit
[00:01] <BillyZane> ohhh hmmm
[00:01] <glitsj16> PublicStaticVoid: disable it in edit > plugins
[00:01] <PublicStaticVoid> Not sure how to start another instance of lightdm or whatever dm you are running though
[00:01] <Beldar> BillyZane, I believe you have to stop that one easier to just log out, if you have to use the tty run stop there then start to get to the login.
[00:01] <PublicStaticVoid> glitsj16: There is no edit
[00:01] <BillyZane> Beldar, but i have a bunch of stuff running that i don't want to shut down
[00:02] <PublicStaticVoid> at least not when launched from the shell extension
[00:02] <glitsj16> PublicStaticVoid: that might be in the global menu, right next to the dash icon
[00:02] <PublicStaticVoid> ie right clicking on an iso and clicking open with brazero
[00:02] <chemist^> BillyZane, i don't believe you can switch between DE while not logging out
[00:02] <Beldar> BillyZane, What ever is on all your desktops is available on all of them, what is the reasoning here?
[00:02] <BillyZane> what do you mean
[00:03] <BillyZane> Beldar, are you saying i can log out of one DE and load another and still have firefox loaded
[00:03] <glitsj16> PublicStaticVoid: you'll have to open brasero once in that case to set plugin prefs
[00:03] <chemist^> no he doesn't :)
[00:03] <chemist^> he isn't :P
[00:03] <Beldar> BillyZane, No, what I was saying that all apps of any de should be available on the others, and what is the reasoning for this.
[00:04] <BillyZane> beldar, oh i see
[00:04] <BillyZane> i can't find ~/.xinit
[00:04] <chemist^> BillyZane, i'm telling you...you can not just switch desktop env. without logging out
[00:04] <Beldar> mmm questions not answered my favorite
[00:04] <BillyZane> ctrl+alt+F2 , i loaded cinnamon
[00:05] <BillyZane> no problem
[00:05] <BillyZane> i was running 2 simultaneously
[00:05] <BillyZane> they were independent of each other
[00:05] <BillyZane> 2 workspaces
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: the \ is immediately followed by a newline.     the \ escapes the newline so its inserted as a newline character
[00:06] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, how do i do that in terminal... shift+enter?
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: just hit enter
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> you'll see the prompt change to > thrn
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> then*
[00:08] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, i didn't understand you well..but i tried it and figured it out :) thanks
[00:09] <PublicStaticVoid> glitsj16: thx
[00:10] <glitsj16> PublicStaticVoid: no trouble, i noticed disabling all plugins makes brasero much more stable, not  a single issue since..
[00:11] <chemist^> BillyZane, do you have all windows in one of the 2 DE available in the other?
[00:12] <chemist^> you said you had 2 running at the same time
[00:12] <chemist^> BillyZane, are you able to access a window opened in one of them from the other?
[00:13] <chemist^> BillyZane, if yes, there maybe is a solution to your problem... if not, i'm afraid what you're asking can't be done ;) at least i have no idea
[00:17] <PublicStaticVoid> glitsj16: Will pulling the DVD out while it is "Generating Checksum" mess the disk up? I mean it has already ben finalized right?
[00:18] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i got the new chipset, i am putting it into the machine. I will keep u posted. :)
[00:18] <Exploit> !news
[00:18] <Exploit> how many btc does 0E-8 = ?
[00:18] <Exploit> !calc 0E-8
[00:18] <Exploit> wrong room
[00:18] <glitsj16> PublicStaticVoid: it it was me i'd wait for it to finish, then again i have a huge collection of missburn-coasters, not sure what would happen exactly to the DVD
[00:19] <glitsj16> *if
[00:19] <PublicStaticVoid> Ya Ill wait
[00:19] <PublicStaticVoid> Its just Windows haha
[00:19] <glitsj16> :)
[00:19] <PublicStaticVoid> DOnt wana wait for that shit to burn again
[00:20] <IdleOne> !language > PublicStaticVoid
[00:20] <PublicStaticVoid> Hoping this OEM non cracked Win 8.1 ISO will actually pull me Win key from the firmware
[00:20] <mr-jack> if i installed 13.10 on my uefi board and i can select and run kubuntu in grub, but it only appears a black screen with the underscore blinking. what could be the problem ?
[00:21] <PublicStaticVoid> So I dont have to pay Toshiba 65 dollar for them to send me proper media installation
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: win8 oem key is pulled from the secure boot cert
[00:21] <PublicStaticVoid> I know this
[00:21] <chemist^> PublicStaticVoid, thought of making a bootable usb instead of burning discs?
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: as long as its the right version it should work
[00:22] <PublicStaticVoid> Tried that, tried 3 different linux programs and followed 3 guides with no luck, alway get a blinking cursor
[00:22] <PublicStaticVoid> hitsujiTMO: Actually no, It cant be retail
[00:22] <chemist^> unetbootin worked well with me every time
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: nope, retail works. your thinking of xp
[00:23] <PublicStaticVoid> mr-jack: press e or tab (cant remeber for grub 2) over the version of Ubuntu you are trying to boot and delete quiet and splash
[00:23] <PublicStaticVoid> then pres ctrl x
[00:23] <chemist^> or startup disc creator
[00:23] <proto> yo
[00:23] <PublicStaticVoid> hitsujiTMO: No I am not. I have tried retail. Retail doesnt check for embedded keys just tkes them from the user
[00:23] <PublicStaticVoid> This is well documented on mny sites including microsoft lmao
[00:23] <proto> do you guys know where i can download cs5 photoshop for ubuntu
[00:24] <PublicStaticVoid> you cant
[00:24] <PublicStaticVoid> You can run it through wine
[00:24] <AceFace> can i get iphoto for ubuntu terminal?
[00:24] <chemist^> proto, try: sudo apt-get install gimp
[00:24] <proto> how do i run this through wine
[00:24] <chemist^> it's not photoshop but has many features
[00:25] <mr-jack> i will try PublicStaticVoid , ty
[00:25] <PublicStaticVoid> chemist^: Unetbootin wont work for Win 8
[00:25] <proto> i need photoshop sorry
[00:25] <PublicStaticVoid> Have tried mny times
[00:25] <HeaderFile> proto: sudo apt-get install gimp
[00:25] <PublicStaticVoid> Just blinking cursor
[00:25] <chemist^> :)
[00:25] <HeaderFile> proto: PS works under wine
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: copy the contents of the iso over to a fat32 usb
[00:25] <ROPA> proto use gimp, ot takes allot to learn it, but my faughter went through it and she won't even touch photoshop anymore.
[00:25] <PublicStaticVoid> hitsujiTMO: Done thats as well, as stated
[00:25] <HeaderFile> proto: on playonlinux
[00:26] <proto> where can i install cs5 photoshop?
[00:26] <PublicStaticVoid> Just get a blinking cursor
[00:26] <PublicStaticVoid> tried Fat32 and NTFS
[00:26] <proto> i need a link right?
[00:26] <proto> sorry bit of a noob
[00:26] <chemist^> proto if you have the latest stable wine installed (not from the repo) then you just right-click on setup.exe and run with wine
[00:26] <PublicStaticVoid> proto: There is no PS for Linux you can emulate with Wine or run Gimp
[00:27] <PublicStaticVoid> Gimp is a fully featured phote editing software suite for linux with PS file support
[00:27] <proto> yes i need a download link
[00:27] <HeaderFile> proto: go to the software manager - and search: playonlinux or wine
[00:27] <PublicStaticVoid> no download link
[00:27] <chemist^> proto, you'll have to download the windows version and install it like you'd do on windows
[00:27] <proto> i dont know where to download it from
[00:27] <chemist^> LOL download link
[00:27] <chemist^> ;DDD
[00:27] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i put in the card, restarted the system..and its still hanging on waiting for networking configuration on the system startup
[00:27] <chemist^> proto, try buying it
[00:27] <PublicStaticVoid> sudo apt-get install gimp from a terminal
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: did you set a config?
[00:27] <Psil0Cybin> no hitsujiTMO
[00:27] <proto> publicstaticvoid whats this gimp
[00:27] <chemist^> proto, adobe photoshop is not for free, you can't just download it from their homepage
[00:27] <proto> is it photoshop
[00:28] <PublicStaticVoid> proto: I told you above
[00:28] <PublicStaticVoid> no its not
[00:28] <PublicStaticVoid> There is no Photoshop for Linux
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sorry, did you set a config for the onboard card?
[00:28] <PublicStaticVoid> You can run with latest version of wine
[00:28] <chemist^> proto, gimp is a program that's similar to photoshop in many ways...
[00:28] <chemist^> try it
[00:28] <PublicStaticVoid> We have all told you this 3 time now
[00:28] <Psil0Cybin> no i did not, i just put the card into the computer and noticed that the lights turned on when the ethernet wire wwas inside
[00:28] <Psil0Cybin> so i attempted to just turn on the machine
[00:28] <proto> ok il try gimp
[00:28] <chemist^> proto, open your terminal and type: sudo apt-get install gimp
[00:28] <PublicStaticVoid> there ya go
[00:29] <Psil0Cybin> i think its still etting the eth0 settings from the old card.
[00:29] <PublicStaticVoid> Don't get sponburn
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: i mean, yesterday ... did you set a config... in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:29] <chemist^> proto, after that find it in your applications menu
[00:29] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i did but for eth0 being the motherboard card.
[00:29] <Psil0Cybin> i do not know what this new card is called.
[00:29] <ikonia> why are you using the interferfaces file and not network-manager
[00:30] <PublicStaticVoid> omfg its still building a checksum
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: cool. first, try disabling the internal card in the bios
[00:30] <chemist^> Psil0Cybin, ifconfig ?
[00:30] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: tone down the language
[00:30] <proto> no sorry dont like it lol
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: its a server
[00:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so restart the computer, go in bios and look for ethernet settings/
[00:30] <proto> how do i unistall
[00:30] <PublicStaticVoid> omfg isnt bad language, thanks.
[00:30] <chemist^> :)
[00:30] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: it is - everyone knows what it means, hence "please tone it down"
[00:30] <chemist^> proto, wow you really checked it out...
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> Oh My Fudgng God?
[00:31] <chemist^> sudo apt-get remove package
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> No it isn't thanks.
[00:31] <proto> didnt like the first impression :D
[00:31] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: please don't be silly, we know what it means, it' a polite request to tone it down
[00:31] <proto> how do i uninstall it
[00:31] <chemist^> proto, you can't tell a book from it's cover
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> And, there isn't anything to tone down...
[00:31] <proto> try
[00:31] <proto> how do i install it anyway?
[00:31] <PublicStaticVoid> It is an acronymn hat means many things.
[00:31] <zacarias> Hi. I installed Ubuntu (DreamStudio Unity flavour) on my wife's Macbook. When she plugs the earphones, she hears nothing. The system identifies she's using the earphones, but.. she hears nothing. Tried with difrenet earphones, both low and high-end. Any idea?
[00:31] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i am in bios settings, looking in Peripherals...but i cannot find anything to turn off the eth0card.
[00:31] <chemist^> proto, i told you.. sudo apt-get remove gimp
[00:31] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: the most common meaning is not nice - hence tone it down,
[00:32] <proto> oh i c
[00:32] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: do i turn off the Onboard LAN Controller?
[00:32] <PublicStaticVoid> No.
[00:32] <Psil0Cybin> is that it?
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what board is it?
[00:32] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: this is getting outside of "ubuntu"'s scope
[00:32] <proto> thanks guy
[00:32] <chemist^> :)
[00:32] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: sorry - not you that was for Psil0Cybin
[00:32] <Psil0Cybin> GIGABYTE 970A -DS3P
[00:32] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: this is getting outside of #ubuntus scope
[00:32] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: you seem to have zero idea how to run the hardware/software of your machine
[00:32] <HeaderFile> proto: try using the software manager, you can install & uninstall from there
[00:32] <PublicStaticVoid> Psil0Cybin: It is fine to ask about that here.
[00:33] <PublicStaticVoid> This guy needs to calm down.
[00:33] <chemist^> proto downloading copyright software is illegal...you won't get any advice on how to do that here...
[00:33] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: we are not going to start checking bios settings for you on how to enable/disable hardware i nthe bios
[00:33] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: I suggest you stop trying to setup the OS for a while and try to learn/understand how to use your hardware
[00:33] <PublicStaticVoid> I will help you here.
[00:33] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: no - you will not,
[00:33] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: well usually i never had an issue, that i can not get a networking eth0 card set up...usually everything works fine, I have been using linux and building machines and I have never had this issue before with a server.
[00:34] <UserError> Three questions: Is the kernel still different on the Ubuntu Server ISO? Is any build RC of 12.04.4 downloadable? How do you install minimal from the server iso?
[00:34] <ikonia> the channel is for ubuntu support - the OS - not hardware bios settings
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> He is using Ubuntu.
[00:34] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: yes, and can't use his bios
[00:34] <PublicStaticVoid> SO what.
[00:34] <ikonia> so setting up bios settings is not this channels purpose
[00:35] <PublicStaticVoid> Ypu need a hobby.
[00:35] <PublicStaticVoid> you*
[00:35] <chemist^> :)
[00:35] <PublicStaticVoid> Part of the reason this community get such a bad rap.
[00:35] <PublicStaticVoid> Channel is absolutely dead, people are helping him.. and you feel the need to but in.
[00:35] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: your welcome to send him a pm and help him with his offtopic support
[00:35] <PublicStaticVoid> Seriously?
[00:35] <chemist^> calm down now
[00:36] <PublicStaticVoid> No I am welcome to help him here.
[00:36] <ikonia> PublicStaticVoid: no - you're not, as I've just explained the channels topic
[00:36] <KI7MT> UserError, at the boot menu, server ISO .. have a look at F5 or F6 one of then should do what you want I think.
[00:36] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay i turned off the onboard lan controller, going through the waiting up to 60 seconds for network config, and then i should reconfigure /etc/networking/interfaces?
[00:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Amnd I disagree with your interretation.
[00:36] <LvMises> o/
[00:36] <chemist^> :))
[00:37] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: why do you need to reconfigure the interfaces file
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> So I will help him, feel free to op up, big man.
[00:37] <PublicStaticVoid> Interperatation*
[00:37] <chemist^> ;)
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lspci | grep Ethernet
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: what devices show up
[00:37] <korsakof> strange
[00:38] <Psil0Cybin> ETHERNET CONTROLLER: inteel corporation 82574L ggabit network connection
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sweet. what interface names show up under ifconfig?
[00:40] <Psil0Cybin> only lo :(
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lspci -knn | grep Ethernet -A 2            whats the krnel driver?
[00:41] <LvMises> Hello everyone.  I'm having problems getting the lights on my plug and plug ditital microscope working in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  I can launch VLC and stream the microscope and sort of make out the image when I add my own light but there are two LEDs on the microscope itself and I was hoping someone could tell me where in these instructions I've located online I'm going wrong.  http://oyhus.no/Microscope.html
[00:41] <Psil0Cybin> kernel driver in use: e1000e hitsujiTMO
[00:42] <chemist^> LvMises, there is no hardware buttons for the 2 LED?
[00:42] <LvMises> More specifically: https://listserver.risc.jku.at/pipermail/cpia/2001-December/001139.html
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo modprobe e1000e
[00:42] <LvMises> chemist^, no sir.
[00:43] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[00:43] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: ran the command
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ifconfig
[00:43] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig just displays lo
[00:44] <chemist^> LvMises, does it give out any error at any point?
[00:44] <LvMises> echo bottomlight: on > /proc/cpia/video0
[00:44] <LvMises> bash: /proc/cpia/video0: No such file or directory
[00:45] <Ben64> LvMises: does /proc/cpia exist?
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: wipe /etc/network/interfaces                  then reboot
[00:45] <chemist^> first you need to find out where is your device located
[00:45] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: completely remove everything even lo?
[00:45] <LvMises> I'm slowly working on doing an online tutorial about the shell and bash so I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing in nix yet.
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: yup
[00:45] <ikonia> why would /etc/network/interfaces stop the ethX device being created
[00:45] <UserError> where can the 12.04.4 iso be downloaded from?
[00:46] <LvMises> chemist, I'll work on that and let you know
[00:46] <nashant> Really need some help with nfs. Whenever I try and copy a large(ish) file the transfer stops after about 10 seconds and just whacks the iotop right up.  the export options are (rw,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,crossmnt)
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: it wouldn't ... but his config causes a 2 min delay while it waits for the non existent network to come up
[00:46] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: ahhh
[00:46] <chemist^> LvMises, have you tried using the second option on the link you provided?
[00:46] <Ben64> UserError: does not appear to be out yet
[00:47] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i restarted, and it still says wiating for network configuration....
[00:47] <chemist^> LvMises, use the utility made by a guy... http://sourceforge.net/projects/webcam/
[00:47] <UserError> apparently it is because LXLE testing is using 12.04.4
[00:47] <LvMises> I downloaded that.  It launched my Ubuntu Software Center
[00:48] <LvMises> Standby.
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: did anyone have you change any network related setting outside of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[00:48] <chemist^> If anyone has any experience with TOR and Android phones please PM me :)
[00:48] <Ben64> UserError: lxle is not ubuntu and not supported here
[00:48] <chemist^> LvMises, i'm here
[00:48] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: honestly, not that i remember...all i did was add the eth0 and stuff like that..and enable it
[00:48] <zacarias> is there a channel for ubuntu on mac?
[00:48] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: "add eth0"
[00:48] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig still only displays lo
[00:48] <UserError> Ben64 : It is under the ubuntu domain
[00:48] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: how did you add "eth0"
[00:48] <UserError> Where do I go for projects directly on the ubuntu domain
[00:49] <LvMises> It tells by dependency not satisfiable: python-gtk-1.2
[00:49] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: " auto eth0
[00:49] <Psil0Cybin> iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[00:49] <FireMedic>  UserError: Feb 6 via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-December/037909.html
[00:49] <LvMises> Does this mean I need to launch my synaptic package manager
[00:49] <Ben64> UserError: you'd have to see if lxle has a support channel, this channel is for canonical ubuntu releases only
[00:49] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: yes, but if eth0 doesn't exist why are you adding it to the file
[00:49] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: it did exist, yesterday
[00:49] <UserError> FireMedic, there was a kernel freeze in december, i'm looking for a beta or rc
[00:49] <Psil0Cybin> its the motherboard ikonia .
[00:49] <chemist^> LvMises, no
[00:49] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: what's the motherboard ?
[00:50] <FireMedic> UserError: Ah, ok
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/6718115/ set this as your /etc/network/interfaces
[00:50] <chemist^> LvMises, open your terminal...go to the path where you downloaded the file... probably just cd /Downloads
[00:50] <chemist^> LvMises, and type: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[00:50] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: someone told me to run sudo /proc/net/arp
[00:50] <Psil0Cybin> if that maeters.
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that shouldn't
[00:51] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: ty let me tr
[00:51] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: I have to ask - what is going on here ?
[00:51] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: I've watched you make a mess of setting this machine up for approx 3 days
[00:51] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: you don't really appear to understand what you are doing and there is no clear goal/problem beyond "please set this server up for me"
[00:51] <Beldar> hallelujah
[00:52] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: copied, that file inside, retarting system now give me a second
[00:52] <LvMises> chemist^:http://pastebin.com/KDmq6zAm
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: his onboard nic is a r8168      which doesn't work well with linux.     he's now replaced it with a e1000e based card which should work immediately with kernel driver
[00:53] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: copied, t efile as specificed...restarted system
[00:53] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: he said it was working before
[00:53] <Psil0Cybin> but no internet no ifconfig
[00:53] <chemist^> LvMises, ok, you see in that output which packages are needed in order for your package to work
[00:53] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig just displays lo
[00:53] <chemist^> LvMises, install them with: sudo apt-get install package
[00:53] <LvMises> Ahhah.
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: it was showing before, but refused to acuall transmit or receive data. common issue with rt8168 cards it seems
[00:54] <delt> here's a good one: how do i remap the windowz-logo key to alt_L? xmodmap seems to "half work" for this task.....
[00:54] <delt> i mean, it works with, say, the Z key... why not with the winlogo key?
[00:54] <LvMises> So dpkg -i a command that tells me that which I need?  Dependencies?
[00:54] <Ben64> chemist^, LvMises: that shouldn't be necessary
[00:54] <delt> ie. xev reports it as alt, but winlogo+f4 for example, doesn't close current window
[00:54] <LvMises> For anything that is a .deb?
[00:54] <Ben64> LvMises: cpia is included in ubuntu
[00:54] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: I've been watching this for days - the raid array, it's all "basic" server stuff and it just appears to be going nowhere
[00:54] <jeek> WinLogo is Ctrl-Esc
[00:54] <chemist^> LvMises, no... dpkg -i installs a .deb package downloaded from the internet
[00:54] <LvMises> How does it know where to find it?
[00:54] <chemist^> while apt-get install installs from the ubuntu repo
[00:55] <LvMises> I love linux.  I really do.
[00:55] <chemist^> LvMises, you pointed at it.... when you issued your command
[00:55] <nashant> Really need some help with nfs. Whenever I try and copy a large(ish) file the transfer stops after about 10 seconds and just whacks the iotop right up.  the export options are (rw,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,crossmnt)
[00:56] <Ben64> LvMises: could you pastebin the following for me? "ls /proc/cpia/; lsmod"
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: maybe i need to configure the networking interface file like i did with eth0
[00:56] <Psil0Cybin> but for this new ? card?
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ifconfig should at least be displaying eth0 down
[00:56] <chemist^> I'm gonna go now to smoke a big j**nt ;D be back in 5 - 15 minutes :P
[00:57] <LvMises> I remember using that command to find out if it was recognizing my device.  I think it is.
[00:57] <LvMises> Standby:
[00:57] <Psil0Cybin> ifconfig does not display eth0 ifconfig is just display lo now, could it be becasue we tried to blacklist something previously? or was that just the driver
[00:57] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: maybe worth clearing out the persistant net rules form udev
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: dmesg | grep e1000e                 anything interesting there?
[00:57] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: it shouldn't make a difference
[00:57] <LvMises> http://pastebin.com/uXrt1CBz
[00:57] <jeek> jaunt?
[00:57] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: just says its an intel pro 1000 network driver 2.1.4.k
[00:57] <chemist^> LvMises, you can pastebinit directly from your terminal using the command like this: ls /proc/cpia/; lsmod | pastebinit
[00:58] <Psil0Cybin> says its eth0
[00:58] <chemist^> LvMises, anycommand | pastebinit
[00:58] <LvMises> Thats awesome
[00:58] <Psil0Cybin> PCI Express25GT
[00:58] <chemist^> yes :D
[00:58] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: what exactly is the ifconfig command you are running
[00:58] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: "ifconfig"
[00:58] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: so not "sudo ifconfig -a"
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[00:59] <chemist^> LvMises, if you don't have pastebinit installed install it via apt-get install :)
[00:59] <LvMises> Doing that presently.
[00:59] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: that command says eth0: EEROR while getting interfaces flags: no such device
[01:00] <Psil0Cybin> sudo ifconfig a
[01:00] <Psil0Cybin> gave eth1
[01:00] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: come on !!!!!!
[01:00] <Psil0Cybin> eth1 but still no IP address just like eth0 was displayed.
[01:00] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it's eth1 because of persistant udev rules
[01:00] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: ifconfig doesn't show everything
[01:00] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: do you have reasonable linux experience ?
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> Sorry ikonia ! Yes with working systems! that work right off the bat, and need to be configured after the internet is working
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> i do!
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> if no internet
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> i am lost.
[01:01] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: ifconfig is a basic tool,
[01:01] <LvMises> chemist^: http://pastebin.com/dVxS7YRY
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so i would go back to interfaces/network
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> and configure it for eth1
[01:01] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: is this server for home user/business user
[01:01] <Psil0Cybin> but it still does not display a ip address.
[01:02] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: you've not configured it !!!! why would it display an IP
[01:02] <administrator> test smuxi
[01:02] <LvMises> Nooo, my operating system if falling apart.  What does backend_helper.py The package system is broken error mean?
[01:02] <Ben64> LvMises: see if this turns on the lights... run this when vlc is running ... "v4l2-ctl --set-ctrl=lights=3"
[01:02] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: you understand you need to configure a card with an IP address before it will display an IP address yes/no
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: okay added the right fields to network/interfaces, trying it now
[01:02] <zacarias> Hi. I installed Ubuntu (DreamStudio Unity flavour) on my wife's Macbook (5,2). When she plugs the earphones, she hears nothing. The system identifies she's using the earphones, but.. she hears nothing. Tried with difrenet earphones, both low and high-end. In my own Macbook (2,1) with Elementary OS Luna (based on the same Ubuntu 12.04) it just works out of the box.Any idea?
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> yes ikonia you are correct.
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: so as ikonia suggested, sudo rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules                        this will bring it to eth0
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it works
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: thank you guys
[01:03] <LvMises> Ben64: v4l2-ctl --set-ctrl=lights=3
[01:03] <LvMises> unknown control 'lights'
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> i had to set up eth1
[01:04] <Beldar> zacarias, Have you checked the right click on the sound icons sound settings?
[01:04] <Beldar> icon*
[01:04] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: i strongly suggest some sort of basic linux research
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> i owe ikonia and hitsujiTMO WINE but mostly hitsujiTMO !! he stuck with me by the store, and everything...you guys are amazing
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: ON THAT! right now, buying a textbook or something
[01:04] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: get some basic background before going forward
[01:04] <Ben64> LvMises: hmm.... how about "modprobe cpia2" and then seeing if /proc/cpia appears
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: i have experience, administration stuff, not configuring systems
[01:04] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: you can't run a server like this where you expect people to give you every exact command and flag
[01:04] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: you can't have admin experience, you don't know how to display network cards
[01:05] <LvMises> FATAL: Error inserting cpia2 (/lib/modules/3.8.0-35-generic/kernel/drivers/media/usb/cpia2/cpia2.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:05] <Ben64> LvMises: oh sorry, need sudo modprobe cpia2
[01:06] <nashant> Really need some help with nfs. Whenever I try and copy a large(ish) file the transfer stops after about 10 seconds and just whacks the iotop right up.  the export options are ((rw,nohide,no_subtree_check,crossmnt,fsid=0,insecure,async). It seems like it get to about 700mb and then dies
[01:06] <LvMises> Ben64, it did nothing.
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: you may be correct ikonia but i am a 23 year old dude that knew nothing about linux a year ago, and fully switched from windows.and learned everything by dealing with it first hand.
[01:06] <LvMises> Im at a new cmd line
[01:06] <Ben64> LvMises: nothing is what you want from the modprobe command. now you check to see if /proc/cpia exists
[01:06] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: but you don't know the basics
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: so where can I learn, if I am teaching my self everything from scratch..
[01:06] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: so I don't so "learned everything" when you can't run the basics of a box
[01:07] <LvMises> By typing modprobe again?
[01:07] <LvMises> or navigating to the directory?
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: I suppose you are right, if i could not configure this...so how could I start learning more in depth like you guys know?
[01:07] <Ben64> LvMises: no, "ls /proc/cpia" or however you'd like to check for the directory's existence
[01:07] <justinjstark> ck
[01:07] <LvMises> ls: cannot access /proc/cpia: No such file or directory
[01:07] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: actually researching problems rather than ask "what is the commands and flags I need"
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: but alot of research leads to outdated solutions, that people on IRC suggest to stay away from.
[01:08] <Ben64> LvMises: then sorry, i'm not sure where to go from here
[01:08] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: then your research is poor/bad
[01:08] <LvMises> Thanks anyways man.
[01:08] <LvMises> This stinks.
[01:09] <LvMises> I really want to stay with linux but Eve Online and my microscope wont work.  This makes me a sad panda.
[01:09] <Ben64> LvMises: from what i can see online the directory should exist and the "cat blah blah > /proc/cpia/video0" should turn the lights on
[01:09] <LvMises> Waaaait.
[01:09] <Ben64> LvMises: eve online however should work fine
[01:09] <LvMises> Standby.
[01:09] <LvMises> I drank a wine bottle after messing with trying to make wine bottles for eve to work in wine all night.
[01:10] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: do you recommend, i buy an ubuntu textbook?
[01:10] <zennist> anyone familiar with 'calc' program?
[01:10] <Beldar> ikonia, This user does not seem to reason through some basic issue, not even following the bots auto warnings. They have as you said been on the channel for three days, I doubt any reasoning is going to change them, it does not seem to be part of their congnitive development or vocabulary. And we have others continuing to enable this, take them off please. ;)
[01:10] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: not really no, there are solid documentation for ubuntu and linux in general on the web
[01:11] <ikonia> Beldar: I can see your point
[01:11] <zennist> I have some statements in my CALCRC but unfortunately every time it starts up it prints useless output for those statements in my rc file. How to block that output?
[01:11] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: okay thank you, can you give me a topic that I should focus on at the moment...as you can see the issues I have been facing? How can I advance my linux knowledge, and stop being a paracite of knowledge on this channel.
[01:11] <Psil0Cybin> because no joke if it wasnt for hitsujiTMO I would have been in the dark ages, I owe this guy a very expensive botle of wine
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[01:12] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: there is no "topic" research the things you need to do BEFORE doing them
[01:12] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: pay attention to the information that's been giving to you
[01:12] <ikonia> pay attention to what you read
[01:12] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it's basic common sense stuff
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: okay thank you guys, for putting up with me. ikonia thank you, you are right.
[01:12] <psusi> Psil0Cybin, did you get that server sorted out?
[01:15] <entreri> hello, how difficult it is to download, install and run VMware on Ubuntu ?
[01:15] <psusi> LvMises, eve online sucks your life force ;)
[01:16] <bijoo_> entreri: it's very simple; google "vmware ubuntu downlad"
[01:16] <psusi> been what?  3 years now since I quit eve and got rid of windows and I still have dreams about the bloody game sometimes...
[01:17] <entreri> bijoo_: it gives me the ubuntu wiki, and it seems a lot complicated, it's a long text of commands, etc...
[01:17] <entreri> would it run out-of-the-box ?
[01:17] <psusi> don't have time for that with the wife and kid, let alone if I want time to improve ubuntu, hehe...
[01:17] <entreri> I'm looking for someone with experience running VMware on Ubuntu
[01:18] <Ben64> !vmware | entreri
[01:18] <elice> buenas
[01:18] <bijoo_> entreri: Okay, I don't know what is so complicated about searching Google; but here it is after 10 seconds: go to Software Central and search for VMware
[01:19] <bijoo_> ubottu: I can see teh VMWare View Open Client in Software Central
[01:19] <bijoo_> entreri: I can see teh VMWare View Open Client in Software Central
[01:19] <Ben64> read what ubottu said, vmware is not available in the ubuntu repositories. virtualbox is
[01:20] <bijoo_> Ben64: how come it shows up in Software Central then?
[01:20] <Ben64> i don't know what software central is
[01:20] <bijoo_> Software Center*
[01:21] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: vmware doesn't run in ubuntu as it is a company and not software. what vmware product are you specifically on about?
[01:21] <entreri> hitsujiTMO: not sure, the Virtualbox alike I guess ?
[01:21] <entreri> the main product for consumers
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: so eith vmware player or workstation?
[01:22] <bijoo_> entreri: you mean to run a virtual machine
[01:22] <entreri> hitsujiTMO: that's right
[01:23] <entreri> bijoo_: yeah, for my college class... problem is I'm not on Ubuntu right now, I won't install Ubuntu is VMware is not available or if it's a pain in the *ss
[01:23] <entreri> if*
[01:23] <bijoo_> entreri: so did you search for vmware there yet? Check in "Ubuntu Software Center" then
[01:23] <nashant> nobody has any idea what's the problem with my NFS transfers? at the moment the rsync process I had to kill is stopping me from unmounting the nfs share, and the only thing I can do when it does this is hard power off. Any help?
[01:24] <bijoo_> entreri: plus as people have said, you can use VirtualBox to open VMWare virtual machines as well. Definitely not a pain and worth it.
[01:24] <entreri> bijoo_: my college class requires VMware : S
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: both work well. there can be issues with some of the kernel modules that they provide as they tend to not work with kernels > 3.2 without patching. (this is the case with esxi's client tools at least). but they are not needed for the basic operations
[01:25] <bijoo_> entreri: hitsujiTMO obviously knows more about this than I do, but if it's for general use, then yea, it's simple and very straightforward.
[01:26] <bijoo_> entreri: and you can run VirtualBox and the VMWare Open View Client with 1 click in Ubuntu through the out-of-the-box Software Center.
[01:26] <bijoo_> entreri: it should suffice for a college homework ;)
[01:26] <entreri> bijoo_: ok I'll take a look, thanks
[01:27] <entreri> well it's funny, they're teaching Linux but they require Windows and VMware to run Linux networking OS inside... omg
[01:27] <bijoo_> entreri: sure, I've been using Ubuntu for a few years now and haven't look back; I switch from Windows 95~7, then Mac 10.x, and finally Ubuntu
[01:29] <bijoo_> entreri: it's impressive how much better this is;
[01:29] <bijoo_> entreri: that is very backwards; but their IT department probably is hook on Windows for now.
[01:29] <bijoo_> entreri: nothing in their power to do, so yea.
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: what exactly are the reasoning for requiring vmware? are they proving you with images, or is it, just because its what they use?
[01:30] <bijoo_> entreri: and they're probably expecting most students are Windows users;
[01:30] <richardstallman> why is ubuntu full of amazon adware?
[01:31] <richardstallman> also why cant you move the unity bar
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | richardstallman
[01:31] <bijoo_> richardstallman: if you're really Mr. Stallman, I agree with you 100% percent, but like the fact that you can turn thouse off.
[01:31] <psusi> entreri, they *require* it or support it as an option for those who don't actually want to install Linux and dual boot?
[01:31] <richardstallman> ubuntu doesn't respect the user's freedoms
[01:32] <psusi> that reminds me... how do you turn that crap off again?  I'm getting sick of searches taking forever while it hits 547 web links when I'm just trying to search for an app to open
[01:32] <xangua> !adlens | psusi
[01:32] <bijoo_> richardstallman: no software is perfect, but seems they try.
[01:32] <psusi> xangua, thanks
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> richardstallman: if you want to discuss such things, try #ubuntu-offtopic. but this is a support channel
[01:33] <psusi> xangua, hrm... strange...  As I don't think he's in rochester, right?
[01:34] <entreri> hitsujiTMO: I have one networking class and one Linux class... the networking class the teacher is a Windows sold-out and he wants to do the networking stuff in VMware... I don't get it since we need to register an account with VMware, etc... The Linux class I just can't follow the class because the teacher explains everything from a Windows perspective, leaving me on my own : (
[01:35] <psusi> RMS would not come on IRC and troll... he would send a gnupg signed email...
[01:36] <entreri> So I'm thinking about buying a used netbook so I can follow what other people do
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: in that case, virtualbox should be just as good as vmware player, if not better. but if needed, you can always install it along side
[01:37] <entreri> so far the Linux class is easy since I'm a Linux user, but soon the Linux teacher wants the students to install Linux in a VM in VMware... lol, so if I want to follow the group, I will need to do that too
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: virtualization on a 64bit platform requires intel vt-x (or amd equiv) for best performance. Most netbooks will not come with a capable processor. If you'r purchasing a system, please ensure the processor supports the feature first
[01:39] <bijoo_> entreri: fun stuff, I never got to install that. It's so easy to install Ubuntu; now building it from scratch is another...
[01:40] <entreri> hitsujiTMO: what about 32-bit ?
[01:40] <entreri> most netbooks are 32-bit
[01:40] <entreri> first gens
[01:41] <psusi> entreri, same thing... for virtualization that has good performance, you need vt-x
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> entreri: no, they're 64bit capable cpus. just run 32bit os.      they "can" run 32bit guests, but the experience can be diminished compared to a vt-x capable system.
[01:42] <psusi> hitsujiTMO, actually there seem to be a number of netbooks coming out that use intel Atom cpus that are only 32 bit capable
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> a 64bit host can also run 32bit guests without vt-x.
[01:42] <psusi> hitsujiTMO, not if you don't want it to be slow as heck
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> psusi: atom going back to 32bit only? whaaaa?
[01:43] <robzolkos> I'm having trouble resuming from sleep on ubuntu 13.10.  nvidia driver.  googled and tried everything.  no change.  monitor just doesn't wake (computer does).  any ideas to check next?
[01:43] <psusi> Atom always has been 32 bit only AFAIK
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> psusi: i think i pointed that out earlier
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> psusi: no. only early ones. they just only officially provide 32bit support
[01:44] <psusi> hitsujiTMO, ahh, thought you were saying that 32 bit guest on 64 bit host didn't need the extensions to run full speed
[01:45] <psusi> hitsujiTMO, I thought that they were always 32 bit only... but it seems that a number of devices are now using them and are UEFI only, which is a problem for Ubuntu since it doesn't support UEFI on 32 bit systems
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> psusi: http://ark.intel.com/products/59683/Intel-Atom-Processor-D2700-1M-Cache-2_13-GHz ones like this are 64bit, but they only provide 32bit drivers
[02:02] <MaynardW1ters> hi I have an eeepc and ubuntu 12.04.3 live usb
[02:02] <MaynardW1ters> I am getting udevd time out killing
[02:02] <MaynardW1ters> 20:45 < MaynardW1ters> '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdd1'
[02:03] <MaynardW1ters> any suggestions how to debug?
[02:04] <donaldduck> maybe I can help you
[02:05] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[02:06] <donaldduck> @mojtaba thinking of switching from hardware printer to a software pdf-printer?
[02:06] <mojtaba> donaldduck: Yes
[02:06] <Stanley00> mojtaba: I don't think you can do that. But how about cancel that, and re-print the file?
[02:06] <mojtaba> donaldduck: I just would like to change the printer of the current job
[02:07] <mojtaba> Stanley00: the problem is that, the website do not give me the option to print to a file.
[02:07] <donaldduck> @mojtaba you have to give more details
[02:07] <mojtaba> Stanley00: It is a flash like book
[02:07] <mojtaba> donaldduck: What do you want to know?
[02:08] <Beldar> mojtaba, Here is a thread that might give you what you need, personally I just choose that option when needed. http://askubuntu.com/questions/118862/how-can-i-set-print-to-file-as-my-default-printing-option
[02:08] <Stanley00> mojtaba: that's strange, I did that before. Can you give me the url?
[02:09] <donaldduck> well a few things. trying from xpdf locally, web etc.
[02:09] <mojtaba> Stanley00: I really would like to give you that. but the problem is that it just needed the university subscription or could be done in the University network.
[02:09] <donaldduck> you can also manage a few things from localhosy
[02:11] <Stanley00> mojtaba: OK :)
[02:11] <donaldduck> tried http://localhost:631/
[02:11] <donaldduck> ?
[02:11] <donaldduck> few settings via cups
[02:13] <MrJerome> I'm getting errors after trying to install printer drivers, how can I found out what's wrong?
[02:14] <nashant> Nobody out there at all that has nfs working correctly??
[02:15] <Beldar> MrJerome, Two things, drivers from where and the errors.
[02:17] <MrJerome> Beldar: I got them from the official Brother website. I used them with success on 12.04 but haven't got them to work on 13.10. In trying to get them to work, I tried various methods to fix the problem. I tried install gutenprint drivers, and then uninstalled them and started getting errors.
[02:18] <Beldar> MrJerome, Ah, have you tried the printers gui and seen if they are in the ubuntu repos?
[02:18] <uronu> ubuntu dhcp server is there a way to block a unit if it static?
[02:18] <MrJerome> I can't remember them exactly but one had to do with man-db and I don't know I'll try to get them up. I'd like to figure out how to get everything back to original and then retry
[02:19] <MrJerome> Yes I've been through the printers gui several times, as well as the Cups localhost web-thingy
[02:19] <Beldar> MrJerome, What form is the download in a tar or what?
[02:20] <MrJerome> it's deb I'm going to try uninstalling those packages I haven't done that yet
[02:21] <Beldar> MrJerome, Try using gdebi, it will tell you if any dependencies are missing, gdebi needs a install is all.
[02:21] <donaldduck> @nashant if you mean NFS-server then yes
[02:21] <Beldar> I would think dpkg would to
[02:22] <Beldar> donaldduck, Tab complete nicks or type them @ is ot used here to notify the user
[02:22] <Beldar> not*
[02:22] <MrJerome> Beldar: Ok. Is it also possible that if certain services are running and I try uninstalling them that it could cause problems? I'm pretty new to linux
[02:24] <uronu> is there a dhcp server which block if it use fixed ip
[02:24] <uronu> ?
[02:24] <MrJerome> Beldar: I got the drivers installed fine, I think I screwed something else up. Also Even after everything seems to be installed ok after I send a job to the printer it looks successful but nothing happens on the printer
[02:24] <Beldar> MrJerome, Hmm, my guess is they have to be stopped or will be at some point of you are removing, are you sure what you bare removing is the answer or just a theory.
[02:24] <Beldar> are*
[02:25] <MrJerome> Beldar: I know how to uninstall the brother drivers themselves, but not so sure on the gutenprint stuff
[02:26] <donaldduck> @Beldar I know that already but thanks.  I'm very tiered here and I might miss/misstype a few letter here and there
[02:26] <MrJerome> Beldar: I have to crash files... cups and man-db
[02:27] <Beldar> donaldduck, really so you are going to disregard the way the channel runs for your own needs.
[02:27] <MrJerome> Beldar: *two
[02:28] <Beldar> MrJerome, Have you done a reboot since setting this up to see if this clears itself up?
[02:28] <MrUnagi> anyone have a solution for remote wiping a ubuntu box......maybe a distro that i can pre set a static ip address so when it is done i can still access it?
[02:28] <MrJerome> Beldar: I'll reboot now and try to come back with more details
[02:29] <nerdtron> MrUnagi: you can also boot a live cd
[02:29] <donaldduck> @Beldar I'm not sure what you mean exactly
[02:29] <MrUnagi> remotely?
[02:30] <nerdtron> then set static ip on the live cd
[02:30] <nerdtron> then you can do remote wiping of hard drive\
[02:30] <sakter12> i just started having a weird issue, every time i reboot unity resets, like the desktop background, things locked to the launcher are back to their defaults...  mouse behavior is defaulted and won't change now.
[02:31] <sakter12> I recently was installing things like glib, GTK+ and babl from source files, that was the last thing i did.
[02:31] <donaldduck> @sakter12 what ubuntu are you running? 32 or 64-bit kernel?
[02:31] <IdleOne> donaldduck: most irc clients will change the color of the text when a users nick is mentioned at the start or within the sentence. When you add an @ in front it breaks that highlighting and the user you are trying to address doesn't see it. right now it is a little slow but when it gets busy in here it is difficult to keep up with the traffic.
[02:32] <sakter12> donaldduck, ubuntu 12.04 64-bit
[02:33] <donaldduck> @IdleOne yeah I know. Trying to keep up though :)
[02:33] <donaldduck> @sakter12 PM instead?
[02:33] <IdleOne> donaldduck: So, it is best to just get in the habit of doing it the "irc" way and not be a huge dipstick about it.
[02:33] <Beldar> a diehard blockhead wonderful
[02:34] <IdleOne> Beldar: that wasn't helpful
[02:34] <Beldar> sorry, my bad
[02:35] <Beldar> I tried b=nicely explaining seems like an accurate description
[02:35] <Beldar> nicely*
[02:36] <sakter12> donaldduck, ok
[02:36] <donaldduck> @IdleOne well I'm not sure where you're getting at all. My english is not my primary language and therefore I'm having some trouble following along
[02:36] <shreezbot> I'm trying to copy about 150GB from one hard drive to another, it is taking a really long time (like 8 hours or more).  Is there a way to figure out why it is taking so long?  I would have thought with both drives being 6GB/s SATA drives, it would be much faster....
[02:37] <Beldar> shreezbot, how are you copying?
[02:37] <glitsj16> donaldduck: it translates to: drop the @ :)
[02:37] <donaldduck> @sakter12 drop me a PM. I've had the same issue as you. Can explain via pm
[02:37] <Beldar> shreezbot, These both internals?
[02:38] <shreezbot> Beldar, I'm just using 'mv' to move the data.  Yes, they are both internal SATA drives.
[02:39] <donaldduck> glitsj16, you mean I should drop the @ before nickname?
[02:39] <glitsj16> donaldduck: correct
[02:40] <donaldduck> I'm not used to this client at all. It has graphics!! I prefer just text-based applications. Used to run irssi
[02:41] <sakter12> donaldduck, did i send a pm or did i do it wrong..  isn't it /msg un message?
[02:41] <glitsj16> donaldduck: that's what people were trying to point out, now you've got that things are back to normal, no worries
[02:41] <sakter12> donaldduck, do i have to re-install compiz?
[02:41] <Beldar> shreezbot, Not sure on checking you might run man mv
[02:42] <SchrodingersScat> !pm
[02:42] <robertdalin> Hi - I am trying to remove ruby.  to reinstall it with rvm,
[02:42] <nashant> donaldduck: You couldn't paste your export and mount lines could you? With mine reading is working (slowly... ~10Mb/s) and write, after copying at about 40Mb/s, just dies after approx 720Mb every time. Cpu utilization drops and iowait shoots up, sometimes high enough to cause my system to hang.
[02:43] <__raven> hi
[02:46] <__raven> 13.10 64 on asus eeepc 1225c with intel atom n2600: extremely bad video performance with hd AND non hd videos. am i missing something/how to find out?
[02:47] <ROPA> where should I post screen capture files showing a technical problem??
[02:48] <Beldar> !imagebin | ROPA
[02:55] <uronu> hi
[02:55] <eschneid> my laptop wont suspend anymore on the latest 13.10.  anyone else see this?
[02:58] <Beldar> eschneid, Have you had a chance to look on askubuntu or the web using your computer model in the search?
[02:59] <eschneid> there are a ton of different compaints over the years.  i cant find one fitting my issue.
[02:59] <Beldar> eschneid, Additionally has it been suspending?
[02:59] <eschneid> pm_suspend doesnt even work
[02:59] <eschneid> dont see anything unusual in the logs
[02:59] <Jeffry> Hello
[03:00] <eschneid> was hoping others have seen it due to an upgrade
[03:00] <Beldar> eschneid, I use the menu for mine does yours have a suspend?
[03:00] <eschneid> that doesnt work either.  same effect as suspend
[03:00] <eschneid> as pm_susend
[03:01] <eschneid> might just log a bug
[03:02] <Jeffry> I'm still having my issue with grub not being the default boot manager could someone PLEASE help me resolve this?
[03:02] <Beldar> eschneid, That command here says "No command 'pm_suspend' found, did you mean:Command 'pm-suspend' from package 'pm-utils' (main)pm_suspend: command not found" however the menu shut down suspend works.
[03:03] <eschneid> ah, yes.  pm-suspend...sorry
[03:03] <Beldar> Jeffry, What is defaulting and is this a uefi?
[03:03] <Beldar> eschneid, That is what I tried
[03:04] <Jeffry> yes its uefi and it just boots into widows skiping grub
[03:05] <Beldar> Jeffry, Have you tried the bootrepair app?
[03:06] <Jeffry> no
[03:06] <Beldar> Jeffry, What was last installed or reloaded?
[03:06] <Jeffry> windows was preinstalled than i installed ubuntu
[03:07] <Jeffry> well i installed it alongside it
[03:07] <Beldar> Jeffry, try this it ask you to save the bootinfo summary makes sure to do so to diagnose if needed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:07] <Beldar> make*
[03:08] <Jeffry> can i put this on usb?
[03:08] <Beldar> Jeffry, YOu would run it from a live ubuntu
[03:09] <Beldar> or the install
[03:09] <Jeffry> ok
[03:09] <Beldar> Jeffry, There is a ubuntu download with it onboard if needed.
[03:10] <donaldduck> Jeffry did you install
[03:10] <donaldduck> from usb or cd/dvd?
[03:11] <systemfish> can I run a script in the background when the system starts?
[03:11] <Jeffry> not yes i  have to figure out how to get into ubuntu now
[03:11] <systemfish> I want a while-loop to run in the background (a bash script)
[03:11] <Jeffry> oh wait
[03:11] <donaldduck> tried a live-version and mount your disc via /dev/sda and run grub-install?
[03:11] <Jeffry> i installed from dvd
[03:11] <Beldar> donaldduck, It;s a uefi the mbr is not used
[03:14] <Jeffry> crap my unet bootenb is acting up again
[03:18] <__raven> 13.10 64 on asus eeepc 1225c with intel atom n2600: extremely bad video performance with hd AND non hd videos. am i missing something/how to find out?
[03:19] <loki_> for example i have archive chat.tar.gz
[03:20] <loki_> i try againg pack my files with command tar czf chat.tar.gz chat/
[03:20] <loki_> what will happened?
[03:20] <somsip> loki_: file chat.tar.gz will be overwritten
[03:20] <loki_> old archive will be deleted?
[03:20] <loki_> ok
[03:20] <ROPA> I'd like to upgrade to a wireless mouse, is there a more appropriate irc channel for asking tech questions and for asking which models are best????
[03:20] <loki_> so there no append right?
[03:20] <loki_> just owerwrite
[03:20] <somsip> loki_: not unless you use tar command line parameters to append
[03:21] <Physicist> I would like to upgrade my system to 13.10. Just thinking about install everything again drives me crazy..
[03:21] <somsip> Physicist: and your question is...?
[03:23] <Physicist> If I upgrade my system to 13.10, I will have to reinstall all programs, codecs, etc?
[03:23] <Beldar> Physicist, You can make a app list and just run it on installs with and extra repos and keys added before run.
[03:23] <gmachine_24> hello
[03:23] <ROPA> Physicist 13.10 is a downgrade, buggy.......keep 12.04 or 12.04........I wish I had never deleted my 13.04!!!!!
[03:23] <Beldar> Physicist, Once installed that is.
[03:24] <Beldar> ROPA, Not here and that is a biased opinion.
[03:24] <somsip> Physicist: if you upgrade, they should all be fine unless you have any manually installed packages in there, and PPAs can be problematic. If you wipe and reinstall, then you need an applist to reinstall.
[03:25] <Physicist> I'm running 13.04. I read today about the end of the cycle.
[03:25] <ROPA> Beldar it's very biased, but not untrue or exaggerated........is dissension allowed here???
[03:25] <Beldar> ROPA, Proper support is.
[03:26] <Beldar> ROPA, dissension is welcomed in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[03:27] <jcabb> Fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit server on inspiron 1525 laptop. -- eth0 doesn't appear with an IP unless I type these commands. sudo modprobe e100 && sudo ifconfig eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0 --
[03:27] <jcabb> I don't understand why the OS doesn't detect/config the card on boot.
[03:27] <ROPA> Beldar OK, I shall endeavor to make recommendations, not negative comments...........ty Beldar.
[03:28] <packetscaper> jcabb: do u see your card in lspci ?
[03:28] <Physicist> I want to try xbva driver and I've got already the catalyst 13.12, newest, installed. Will it be replaced?
[03:28] <Beldar> Physicist, I been doing this long enough, that I find fresh installs the quickest way, but I do not do any extras that cannot be done beyond a app list being run.
[03:29] <jcabb> yes, 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 12)
[03:29] <jcabb> packetscaper, it does work... after I type the command above.  Just when I reboot I need to re-enter that
[03:29] <Beldar> ROPA, It happens, running a OS can be frustrating. ;)
[03:30] <ChogyDan> jcabb: there is a file that you can add to to have stuff modprobed by default
[03:30] <Physicist> Beldar: I will continuing using kwheezy rather. I will, sadly, forget ubuntu when the cycle get over...
[03:30] <jcabb> ChogyDan, im over my head with your question. :/
[03:30] <glizzgk> hola
[03:30] <ROPA> Physicist I'd suggest trying the prerelease version of 14.04 LTS or running 13.04 until something else is available. I am very seriously considering trying 14.04.
[03:30] <glizzgk> español
[03:30] <packetscaper> guys I m having trouble installing Vmware workstation 8.0.4 even after running the patch
[03:30] <jcabb> packetscaper & ChogyDan , could I not manually change my /etc/networking/interfaces to what i want it to do?
[03:31] <ChogyDan> jcabb: I think you can add e100 to /etc/modules and then it will be set up automatically
[03:31] <jcabb> ChogyDan, so just vi that file and add e100 at the end?
[03:31] <Physicist> Beldar: About the driver, does it will be replaced if I install xvba from repositories?
[03:31] <ChogyDan> jcabb: correct.
[03:32] <Beldar> Physicist, I don't know.
[03:32] <Physicist> ROPA: I will consider too.
[03:32] <ROPA> Beldar yes, frustrating.....but I've learned so much about ubuntu technical issues lately, and frustration should decrease as knowledge ramps up.
[03:32] <somsip> Physicist: ROPA 14.04 is only just in alpha and not recommended for any production usae. Discussions in #ubuntu+1
[03:33] <Physicist> somsip: SOON
[03:33] <ChogyDan> jcabb: and then in theory, you won't need to run those DHCP commands, since the card will setup at boot, and the various network things will actually work automatically
[03:33] <jcabb> ChogyDan, i rebooted and this time ipconfig sees eth0... still no IP.  prolly because dhcp isn't being called
[03:33] <ChogyDan> oh
[03:33] <Physicist> somsip: Not now..
[03:33] <jcabb> ChogyDan, nope. i got no IP :)
[03:33] <jcabb> im getting closer tho
[03:34] <Physicist> I will wait.
[03:34] <jcabb> ChogyDan, im ok with adding sudo dhclient eth0 to an init script.  where would i add that?
[03:34] <ROPA> somsip I can't comment regarding the usefulness of 13.10....but 14.04 alpha might be a step upwards............ty for info about ubuntu+1.
[03:35] <Physicist> Is anybody using xvba driver?
[03:35] <ChogyDan> jcabb: sorry, not my thing
[03:36] <jcabb> ChogyDan, no prob.  I might just assign static IP anyway.. thx for the other help tho
[03:36] <ChogyDan> np
[03:37] <Physicist> I'm installing xvba driver as well.
[03:37] <packetscaper> jcabb: try and run sudo dhclient eth0
[03:38] <quotemstr> Is there a channel for libunity dev support?
[03:38] <jcabb> packetscaper, yeah that already works... but i wanted it in an init script if possible
[03:42] <wolfzrat> hi is there anyone who can lend a hand, I and attempting to dual boot with two HDD and am stuck
[03:43] <zacarias> Hi. In my wife's macbook one can't hear sound from the headphones, just from the speakers. I tried to change things in ALSA mixer, but no luck. Any idea?
[03:44] <Physicist> zacarias: Macbook with ubuntu?
[03:44] <Beldar> wolfzrat, Very likely help is available, name the installed os and your issues.
[03:44] <wolfzrat> i have the primary HDD running windows 7 and I installed ubuntu 13.04 on the other, i wanna boot the 2nd HDD and I get error no such device grub rescue
[03:44] <wolfzrat> there you go Beldar
[03:45] <Beldar> wolfzrat, Ah, have you tried booting from either HD?
[03:45] <Beldar> and which gives you this error
[03:46] <Physicist> Beldar: He must install grub in the  2nd hd
[03:46] <zacarias> Physicist: yes, 12.04.3 customized with DreamStudio
[03:46] <wolfzrat> well after installing ubuntu on the 2nd HDD i get thiis error
[03:46] <wolfzrat> i reboot the computer and this error
[03:46] <munz> zacarias: nice :)
[03:47] <Beldar> !boot-script | wolfzrat, run this script and pastbin it.
[03:47] <zacarias> munz: It gives me 0
[03:47] <Beldar> wolfzrat, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:47] <bilegt> i'm writing something like automatic screen brightness adjuster. I'd really appreciate if you test it and tell me how was it? https://github.com/bilegt/autobrightness
[03:48] <munz> has the sount ever worked?
[03:48] <munz> *sound
[03:48] <wolfzrat> run it on the grub rescue>
[03:48] <zacarias> munz: It works well from the speakers
[03:48] <Beldar> wolfzrat, Boot the live cd and download it unpack it and run the command on the webpage.
[03:48] <munz> but never from headphones?
[03:48] <Physicist> zacarias: You should change the device in the sound menu. Example: Speaker - headphone. Or increasing the volume in the another card #2 using alsamixer.
[03:50] <joshs> my update manager is telling me there are updates to install but when i do i get an error message
[03:51] <irated> For server to not start on boot
[03:51] <wolfzrat> beldar i PM you
[03:52] <spearhead> joshs: what error message?
[03:52] <Beldar> wolfzrat, I have pm off, best to do all this in the channel.
[03:52] <joshs> it is a long one should i post it here?
[03:52] <irated> What do i need to do to for a service to not start?
[03:52] <wolfzrat> alright i understand
[03:52] <spearhead> use paste.ubuntu.com
[03:52] <Beldar> !pastebin | joshs
[03:52] <wolfzrat> let me get the live cd up
[03:53] <wolfzrat> so i run that command and paste it on pastebin right
[03:53] <Beldar> wolfzrat, I'm going to mtake off for about 45 min to an hour to get a flu shot, if I don't answer that is what's up.
[03:53] <wolfzrat> ok
[03:53] <zacarias> Physicist: It changes automatically.
[03:54] <Physicist> zacarias: do it again.
[03:54] <munz> zacarias: what macbook ver do you have? sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[03:54] <Physicist> zacarias: do it again. try alternate between the cards.
[03:54] <joshs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6718709/
[03:55] <Beldar> wolfzrat, Have you tried both HD's first by setting them in the bios?
[03:56] <joshs> i posted the url
[03:57] <Beldar> joshs, maverick is end of life
[03:57] <MrJerome> beldar: got my printer working and all is well
[03:57] <wolfzrat> no i dont know how to do that
[03:57] <joshs> how do i get rid of this?
[03:57] <Beldar> MrJerome, Cool, good job.
[03:57] <Beldar> joshs, Are you running maverick?
[03:57] <zacarias> munz: A Macbook 5,2 (2009). I have another Macbook with Elementary OS (also based on Ubuntu 12.04), a 2,1 model (end 2006) in which everything works out of the box
[03:57] <xangua> joshs upgrade to a supported ubuntu release, either 12.04 LTS or 13.10
[03:57] <Physicist> joshs: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 6AF0E1940624A220
[03:59] <Beldar> Physicist, Heh, the repos are closed for that release the key is not the issue.
[03:59] <Physicist> hehe..
[03:59] <zacarias> Physicist: How can I alternate between cards?
[04:00] <joshs> what is the best way to upgrade?
[04:00] <packetscaper> having trouble running vmware workstation 8.0.4  in ubuntu 12.04
[04:00] <Physicist> A clean installation.
[04:00] <Beldar> wolfzrat, I gotta take off but this may be as simple as making sure the HD is the first HD in the bios. On the bios splash it gives you the key prompt to get to it, mine is f2.
[04:00] <munz> zacarias: red led on the jack?
[04:01] <Beldar> wolfzrat, HD meaning the one ubuntu is on.
[04:01] <packetscaper> I ran the patch still I am getting a messag " Kernel Headers <IP_ADDRESS>-generic no found " what does it mean ?
[04:02] <irated> What do i need to do to for a service to not start?
[04:02] <wolfzrat> beldar, ill try
[04:03] <Beldar> wolfzrat, I'm still here it's raining out here not biking weather.
[04:04] <wolfzrat> ok, well in stuck, ill try to go to bios now
[04:04] <glitsj16> irated: what version of ubuntu are you using? you probably need to put an override file for the service at /etc/init
[04:04] <luckyuser> what is the smallest ubuntu based distro
[04:05] <irated> 13.10
[04:05] <irated> server.override
[04:05] <irated> echo > disabled into it?
[04:05] <irated> service*
[04:05] <irated> ?
[04:05] <Beldar> luckyuser, lubuntu probably, but you can do a net install and have a more customized setup.
[04:05] <luckyuser> yes
[04:05] <glitsj16> irated: try sudo sh -c "echo 'manual' > /etc/init/SERVICE.override" (SERVICE being the name of the service as it appears in /etc/init)
[04:06] <irated> awesome
[04:06] <irated> thanks
[04:06] <Beldar> luckyuser, as far as canonical releases, that is what's supprted here.
[04:06] <glitsj16> irated: no trouble, if you decide to go back to autostart, remove the override file
[04:06] <wolfzrat> ok beldar im in my bios
[04:06] <zacarias> munz: on the jack socket yes, not on the jack itself
[04:06] <luckyuser> im new to linux
[04:06] <wolfzrat> where do i go to do this
[04:06] <irated> i figured as much
[04:07] <irated> i did an accidental rm -rf * blah*
[04:07] <irated> when i ment
[04:07] <irated> rm -rf *blah*
[04:07] <irated> so rebuild my system
[04:07] <irated> Classic reason to backup files people
[04:07] <glitsj16> :) lesson learned i guess
[04:07] <irated> I did this once 10 years ago
[04:07] <Beldar> wolfzrat, Just toggle till you get to the HD's listed and follow the instructions to move the HD's up or down on the list, the highest is the one called for boot.
[04:07] <irated> when i was 15
[04:08] <wolfzrat> well look at this, i see HDD boot sequence and boot sequence
[04:08] <wolfzrat> in HDD boot sequence i see this
[04:08] <munz> zacarias: check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/44608/no-sound-out-of-macbook-speakers-red-led-in-headphone-jack
[04:09] <munz> i dont have the issue im 13.10 on a 5.5
[04:09] <munz> but it looks like what you have
[04:09] <wolfzrat> 1. SATA-0 : ST316081AS
[04:09] <wolfzrat> 2. bootable add-in cards
[04:09] <munz> ...maybe.... :)
[04:09] <jeffrey_f> irated:  Try to keep as much as you can on a single line.  1658 people in here, it can get out of hand and ideas tend to get missed if there is too much scrolling
[04:10] <luckyuser> what is the smallest ubuntu based distro 13.10 ?
[04:10] <Beldar> wolfzrat, Just make sure the HD with ubuntu is above the one with W7, not every bios is the same, so.......
[04:11] <Beldar> luckyuser, This is ubuntu support I answered you on the lightest of canonical and the option of a net install. Ubuntu based is not a channel option.
[04:11] <poleslav> Hey guys, i've got a question. I've got two of the same computer, one which runs ubuntu perfectly the other which the graphics are slowmo. The drivers are different, i found a fix, but it says to save a file to "/etc/x11/xorg.conf" but when i try to it says that it cant find the file, any advice?
[04:12] <poleslav> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072420 is what im using for how to solve this
[04:12] <luckyuser> i know lubuntu and xubunyu sucks
[04:12] <Beldar> luckyuser, Then we are done.
[04:14] <packetscaper> anyone using vmware workstation 8.0.4 in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[04:16] <munz> no packetscaper i used to run vmware but now only virtualbox, its free and opensource
[04:16] <munz> whats up tho?
[04:16] <luckyuser> what is the smallest ubuntu based distro 13.10  64bit  ?   im new to linux
[04:16] <glitsj16> poleslav: so you're stuck at step 4 of that page?
[04:17] <somsip> !minimal | luckyuser
[04:17] <wolfzrat> belgar i got it to work i just had to turn it on, now how do I use the windows boot manager instead of the ubuntu one?
[04:18] <poleslav> yeah, glitsj16, any advice on how to make this work? or another way to get the Intel 945GM x86/MMX/SSE2 graphics drivers?
[04:18] <poleslav> Currently it says the graphics drivers are "Gallium 0.4 on NV46" and everything moves kinda slow mo, its hard to explain
[04:19] <glitsj16> poleslav: let's try what's on the page first, it is the last step, shouldn't take long .. try "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" from a terminal
[04:20] <Beldar> wolfzrat, So you get a grub menu now and ubuntu boots?
[04:20] <glitsj16> poleslav: do you have an editor opening after running that command?
[04:21] <poleslav> yeah, a text editor opens and i write what i need to but when i hit save it says that it cant find the file
[04:22] <luckyuser> is this a good place to gate help with linux im new to linux
[04:22] <somsip> luckyuser: I answered your last question. Is there something else you want?
[04:22] <packetscaper> guys have u faced any such problems: screen goes into black.. with some random memory messages.. and at last u get msg. like "kernel panic: not syncing : fatal exception in Interrupt"
[04:22] <glitsj16> poleslav: that's because the file needs to be made, it isn't there by default .. try to save as .. point it to the correct location (/etc/X11) and name it 'xorg.conf'
[04:25] <glitsj16> poleslav: just to double-check, you did do step 3 and installed xserver-xorg-video-intel yes?
[04:25] <poleslav> yes
[04:25] <poleslav> its weird because it says that a file named xorg.conf already exists
[04:25] <poleslav> and then when i press replace it says that it cant find the file
[04:25] <wolfzrat> belgar yea this is correct but i dont want the grub menu i want the windows one
[04:26] <glitsj16> poleslav: okay, lets pastebin the output of "ls -lh /etc/X11" on paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url if you please, we need to make sure about this
[04:27] <luckyuser> i'm looking for a good linux distro for netbooks
[04:28] <bhldev> ubuntu
[04:28] <Beldar> luckyuser, Here is a list of ubuntu based releases, you will have to do the research on which fits your needs, just consider support relevancy is all.  http://distrowatch.com/search.php?basedon=Ubuntu
[04:28] <bhldev> expect a different answer? lol
[04:28] <somsip> luckyuser: you are in a ubuntu support channel, so the recommendation here will be ubuntu or one of the supported derivatives
[04:28] <wolfzrat> yea ubuntu is what I have on my netbook
[04:28] <wolfzrat> works great I love it
[04:28] <ChogyDan> luckyuser: if it is an older netbook, try xubuntu or lubuntu
[04:29] <somsip> !flavors | luckyuser
[04:29] <possum_> hi how can i add / install a source package from launchpad?
[04:29] <possum_> can you help me?
[04:29] <somsip> !PPA | possum_
[04:29] <possum_> i dont understand what to do
[04:29] <possum_> should i download the tar.gz?
[04:29] <possum_> somsip: i could not find any ppa: link
[04:29] <possum_> !aappa
[04:29] <somsip> possum_: well, as they're not supported here...
[04:30] <possum_> !addppa
[04:30] <possum_> somsip: the problem is i see no ppa: link
[04:30] <wolfzrat> belgar any luck for me to choose the windows boot manager over the grub
[04:30] <possum_> please help
[04:30] <somsip> possum_: mmmm....the problem is you're asking for help on something that is not supported
[04:30] <possum_> :((((
[04:30] <possum_> but i dont know where to ask
[04:30] <possum_> launchpad is for ubuntu
[04:30] <glitsj16> poleslav: did you get the message about the paste request?
[04:31] <somsip> possum_: the home page on launchpad will be the best place to start
[04:31] <possum_> it even has the ubuntu logo
[04:31] <possum_> somsip: i read the doc, it said i should copy the ppa: link
[04:31] <poleslav> Yeah i did im working on it since im working off of two computers
[04:31] <possum_> but there is none for a source package
[04:31] <poleslav> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6718793/
[04:31] <possum_> should i just compile?
[04:31] <somsip> possum_: and PPAs are not suported here. Nor is compiling from source.
[04:31] <luckyuser> i like xfce
[04:32] <eN_Joy> anyone had success remotely dist-upgrade ubuntu? for months i have been debating whether or not i should do this...
[04:32] <possum_> :(
[04:33] <possum_> somsip: so where should i ask?
[04:33] <glitsj16> poleslav: next, paste the contents of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf please, looks like you indeed have one already
[04:33] <wolfzrat> beldar?
[04:34] <Beldar> wolfzrat, Yes, you did not answer my last question, do you get a grub menu now and ubuntu boots?
[04:35] <poleslav> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6718796/
[04:35] <ChogyDan> poleslav: try cat   :)
[04:36] <poleslav> cat?
[04:36] <glitsj16> poleslav: my bad, i should have been more clear, we need the content yes
[04:36] <Beldar> wolfzrat, Windows will not boot ubuntu without a 3rd party boot app, which only dumps you to grub anyway, making it a longer process.
[04:36] <ChogyDan> possum_: what is it that you are trying to install?
[04:36] <poleslav> what do you mean the content?
[04:36] <poleslav> what should i put into the terminal?
[04:36] <somsip> !pastebin | poleslav
[04:37] <glitsj16> poleslav: content, as in what's inside the file :)
[04:37] <somsip> poleslav: sorry - meant to do !pastebinit - it might help you
[04:37] <nitk> how  to restrict access to drives in ubuntu from remote connection
[04:37] <somsip> nitk: what sort of connection?
[04:38] <nitk> somsip, Remote desktop connection
[04:38] <poleslav> i opened up the xorg.conft and its what it said to write in on the guide, should i try to restart it and see if it works?
[04:38] <nitk> somsip, remote desktop connection to ubuntu from windows..
[04:38] <somsip> nitk: I suppose it depends on what user is running the RDP server, if that's what you mean. Maybe it shoudl run under a user with lower permissions than it currently does
[04:39] <wolfzrat> beldar i answered it, the grub menu comes up and ubuntu boots
[04:39] <poleslav> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6718806/
[04:39] <glitsj16> poleslav: if you have that yes, try what's on the instructions and reboot
[04:39] <poleslav> theres the contents, it seems right to me let me double check jsut incase
[04:40] <glitsj16> poleslav: yes it looks good
[04:40] <nitk> somsip, I am connecting to root user in ubuntu from windows
[04:41] <poleslav> ok im restarting now
[04:41] <somsip> nitk: like I said, maybe you should be running the RDP server under a user that is not root, so the windows client doesn't get root access
[04:41] <Beldar> wolfzrat, You spelled my nick wrong, I did not see it, use tab complete with nicks. The grub menu will boot windows. Is it that you want to be able to boot straight to windows by booting bthe drive it's on.
[04:41] <glitsj16> poleslav: just return here if things didn't improve graphics wise, best of luck
[04:42] <poleslav> it didnt seem to work, let me check what driver its using
[04:42] <wolfzrat> belder i must go, i figured out the 3rd party app i will use, thank you for all your help, God bless you.
[04:42] <Beldar> wolfzrat, Cool, have fun.
[04:42] <wolfzrat> thank you =)
[04:43] <poleslav> It says its still using the Gallium one, glitsj16
[04:43] <glitsj16> poleslav: do that and look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.lof too for info of what might have gone wrong
[04:44] <nitk> somsip, i have another problem after connecting to remote desktop when i press keyword d it is minimizing the window
[04:44] <somsip> nitk:  What desktop?
[04:45] <somsip> nitk: looks like you might need to look at /etc/init.d/xrdp for the other issue. The USERID seems to be specified in there. But I'm looking at an old version so maybe not
[04:45] <glitsj16> poleslav: run   lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' | grep VGA -A 1    to confirm the driver is use
[04:45] <poleslav> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6718831/
[04:45] <poleslav> is what i saw whn i opened the xorg log file
[04:46] <nitk> somsip, how to increase max concurrent sessions to xrdp
[04:46] <somsip> nitk: maybe that's in the same logfile
[04:46] <somsip> *config file
[04:46] <glitsj16> poleslav: yes i'm going over it
[04:46] <nitk> somsip, How to solve d keyword problem
[04:47] <somsip> nitk: answer my question - what desktop
[04:47] <wad> Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit desktop edition: I edited the clock settings a bit, to have the option of seeing times in other time zones, and that seems to have exposed a bug. Anyway, now it doesn't show any time info in the bar at the top-right of the screen. The checkbox to "show clock in menu bar" is checked, but greyed out. Ideas on fixing this?
[04:47] <poleslav> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6718835/ is what i got back when i typed in the command
[04:47] <nitk> somsip, ubuntu
[04:48] <somsip> nitk: what desktop environment, hint: unity, lxde, xfce
[04:48] <nitk> somsip, i am not sure  i am using 13.04
[04:49] <glitsj16> poleslav: i see, you have an NVIDIA GPU, so instructions for Intel don't apply
[04:49] <poleslav> Theres a sticker on the computer that says intel centrino duo
[04:49] <poleslav> which is exactly the same exact computer that im on now which has 0 problems with ubuntu
[04:50] <glitsj16> poleslav: did you install the nvidia driver in both machines?
[04:50] <poleslav> Dunno, i did a dual boot on this one and used the same instal disk for both, over writing what was previously on for both
[04:51] <poleslav> worked fine for the one im on right now and it was running slow mo for the other one
[04:51] <somsip> nitk: then you're probably on unity and I have no idea about that as I don't use it
[04:51] <nitk> somsip, how to find it .
[04:52] <somsip> nitk: find what?
[04:52] <glitsj16> poleslav: well, might be worth checking if you have nvidia drivers installed .. what does    apt-cache policy nvidia-*   output, paste that if you would
[04:53] <nitk> somsip, which environment i am using
[04:53] <somsip> nitk: if it lokos like this, it's unity http://arshpreetsingh.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/ubuntu-unity1.png
[04:53] <somsip> *looks
[04:53] <poleslav> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6718850/
[04:54] <nitk> yes
[04:55] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[04:55] <nitk> somsip, mine is unity
[04:55] <somsip> nitk: like I say, I've never used to can't help you with that
[04:56] <nitk> ok
[04:56] <glitsj16> poleslav: could you run the same command on the other box as well
[04:56] <poleslav> on the computer im on right now?
[04:56] <glitsj16> poleslav: yes
[04:57] <poleslav> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6718867/
[05:00] <glitsj16> poleslav: confirming that both machines are not using NVIDIA drivers .. are you sure they have exactly the same hardware? let's run   lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' | grep VGA -A 1  on the machine that works best
[05:01] <poleslav> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[05:02] <glitsj16> poleslav: well there you have it ..
[05:02] <poleslav> As far as i know they both have the same hardware but im not 100% sure, they were both old laptops from my brother-in-laws work he gave to me, same model so i figured theyd be the same
[05:02] <grahamsavage_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[05:02] <grahamsavage_> my graphics perofrms really badly
[05:02] <poleslav> So what would be the best course of action to get the graphics on the second computer to run how they should?
[05:03] <glitsj16> poleslav: looks like the one you are one has Intel GPU, the other one NVIDIA, so you need to look at installing the nvidia driver on that one
[05:03] <grahamsavage_> i have the same problem
[05:04] <glitsj16> poleslav: first, nuke the edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf on that other machine
[05:04] <glitsj16> sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:04] <poleslav> ok, done
[05:04] <grahamsavage_> i get lots of graphical glitches on my machine (horizontal lines) occasinally slow rendering.. but it looks like i've got the correct driver? any idea what i can do?
[05:06] <glitsj16> poleslav: in you pastes i saw that you have the x-swat PPA active, so you could go for the latest nvidia driver available by running   sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 .. that can take a few minutes as it will be building the driver .. ping me if that's finished
[05:10] <__raven> 13.10 64 on asus eeepc 1225c with intel atom n2600: extremely bad video performance with hd AND non hd videos. am i missing something/how to find out?
[05:16] <packetscaper> trouble in installing vmware in ubuntu , I know there is a patch for it , but even after run the patch no luck
[05:16] <gij0e> install virtualbox
[05:17] <poleslav> glitsj16 i believe its done now, should i restart the computer or are there more steps?
[05:17] <ATs> name diagnostics247
[05:18] <packetscaper> gij0e: ya but to learn about vmware technology, later on I'd like to learn esx vsphere. so isnt is better to chose vmware over virtualbox ?
[05:21] <gij0e> Don't think vmware runs in linux
[05:22] <TeslaTony> I'm trying to set up a dual-boot system with Windows 8, but it appears that my C:\ drive is right in the middle of several partitions and am wondering if it's best to shrink C and move the other partitions, or leave the other partitions where they are
[05:23] <gij0e> rm win and just install linux
[05:23] <diagnostics247> I just did that tonight... Made the jump from Windows 8.
[05:24] <Beldar> gij0e, This is support not your soapbox
[05:24] <poleslav> glitsj16, are you there?
[05:25] <Beldar> TeslaTony, Have you imaged W8 and made a recovery disc?
[05:26] <TeslaTony> Beldar: That's running now
[05:26] <Beldar> TeslaTony, Cool.
[05:26] <gij0e> beldar p iss off
[05:27] <Beldar> !ops | gij0e
[05:27] <gij0e> narc
[05:27] <Flannel> gij0e: Please be polite, thanks.
[05:27] <gij0e> lol
[05:28] <Beldar> TeslaTony, Here is a thread besides the uefi worth reviewing. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 Personally I like my partitions following a numerical order.
[05:29] <TeslaTony> Beldar: Thanks. Yeah, me too. Thing is, under Win7 and XP, the C drive was always the last partition, so it was just shrink-->install. Now I'm confused...
[05:29] <Beldar> uefi wiki that is
[05:31] <Beldar> TeslaTony, With windows in general you don't want to move the front of the OS partition, funny thing is your the first dualbooter to ask this question in a W8 dualboot
[05:33] <Malsasa> Hello, my friend affected by a problem of "ImportError: /usr/lib/libwebkit-1.0.so.2: undefined symbol: sqlite3_prepare16_v2" after he installed Eric. The error message comes from terminal when open Eric, USC, and Qt Creator. His complete question is in here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/402613/after-installing-eric-cant-open-ubuntu-software-center-and-get-error-undefin. Now he can't open his USC. Any suggestion? Thank you.
[05:35] <Beldar> Malsasa, That shows running in root, and gnome 2? What release is this?
[05:36] <Malsasa> Beldar: thank you, Sir. But he didn't specify his release yet. Any suggestion for technical issue with the error message? I am sorry.
[05:37] <Beldar> Malsasa, Not really, just that gnome 2 is not running on any supported ubuntu release, they should be here really for help.
[05:38] <Beldar> Malsasa, Nor should that command be run in root to open the software-center
[05:38] <Malsasa> Beldar: hm, thank you. It is new information for me. Any clue sir, for the error message? Pointless here, I have google this but no specific answer for the error.
[05:39] <TeslaTony> Beldar: After exhausting my google-fu, I'm coming to that conclusion. My setup seems to be a 1gb system partition, C drive, system restore D drive, and another system partition. Oh well...I guess I get to play guinea pig! muahahaha
[05:39] <TeslaTony> Beldar: Thanks for the help
[05:40] <Beldar> Malsasa, Not being run in the correct environment makes it a moot point really. All the info is a bit off being in root and the mention of gnome 2.
[05:41] <Malsasa> Beldar: okay, thank you, Sir.
[05:42] <Malsasa> Beldar: sir, he said: Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) 32 Bit. Any suggestion, Sir?
[05:43] <Beldar> TeslaTony, No problem, good luck.
[05:43] <kostkon> Malsasa, upgrade to 12.04. 10.04 is not supported any more on the desktop
[05:43] <Malsasa> kostkon: thank you, Sir. But is there no trick at all? Just a fix for the error message?
[05:44] <Beldar> Malsasa, What happens if they run the command not in root?
[05:47] <Malsasa> Beldar: sorry for long time, Sir.  Is there a way to open the display settings without having the top or left bars? i can open the terminal
[05:50] <poleslav> well, actually scratch that guess thats not the problem, my screen is really zoomed in to the point where i cant see the dock on the left nor the bar to the top, and the mouse is a bit bigger, any way to fix this?
[05:51] <Beldar> Malsasa, Not sure to be honest. Problem here is that 10.04 is not supported here nor does it even have access to the ubuntu repos. Seeing that command run in root has me wondering if this has been done regularly how much permissions might be broken. I would tell them to install 12.04 at the least, and do not run in root use sudo in the correct place.
[05:51] <vanishing> poleslav: sounds like a graphic driver issue
[05:52] <poleslav> yeah i installed a new one as glitsj16 instructed me to to solve my other issue (everything was basically in slow motion)
[05:52] <Malsasa> Beldar: thank you, Sir. I understand. I will give our chat to him.
[05:52] <vanishing> ha
[05:52] <vanishing> poleslav: check your xorg.conf
[05:52] <Beldar> Malsasa, Cool, hope you get it worked out.
[05:52] <poleslav> but glits is away right now so yeah lol. How do i do that without being able to click around?
[05:53] <vanishing> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:53] <Malsasa> Beldar: thank you, Sir.
[05:53] <vanishing> btw, are you using nvidia?
[05:54] <poleslav> yeah i am
[05:54] <vanishing> as expected..:D
[05:54] <poleslav> "cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory"
[05:54] <vanishing> do this: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:55] <vanishing> after that reboot, and you should have a happy desktop
[05:56] <poleslav> still really zoomed in lol
[05:57] <poleslav> "could not apply the stored configuration for monitors, none of the selected modes were compatible with the possible modes:"
[05:58] <poleslav> and then it says trying modes for CRTC 83 and has a list of CRTC 83 trying mode with a bunch of resolutions and Hzs and oututs, as well as (pass 0) or (pass 1) at the end
[05:59] <vanishing> choose the resolution and refresh rate that suits your monitor :D
[05:59] <poleslav> not sure which that would be
[05:59] <vanishing> or you can edit xorg.conf manually
[05:59] <poleslav> or how to do that :P
[05:59] <vanishing> :(
[05:59] <poleslav> im pretty new, especially when it comes to ubuntu
[06:00] <vanishing> I'm thinking..dual monitor?
[06:00] <gij0e> pico xorg.conf
[06:00] <poleslav> laptop
[06:01] <gij0e> or nano xorg.conf
[06:01] <vanishing> he doesnt have xorg.conf...
[06:01] <poleslav> its all sorts of messed up lol
[06:01] <gij0e> oh
[06:01] <gambi> poleslav: the xorg config is in a different place now
[06:02] <Ben64> the xorg conf is not needed on recent ubuntus
[06:02] <poleslav> i think ill just get around to installing ubuntu fresh again later and coming back here for help, my battery is running low on both my computers and i only have one charger
[06:02] <gambi> poleslav: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ...
[06:03] <gambi> they all get combined into a single file - as far as I understand
[06:03] <Ben64> gambi: not really
[06:03] <gambi> Ben64: thats where I put all my custom stuff and it works ...
[06:04] <poleslav> ill just come back whenever i get time and another flash drive and retry from new
[06:04] <vanishing>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf still works though
[06:04] <gambi> Ben64: am I doing something wrong?
[06:04] <Ben64> yeah, you should use /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you really need one
[06:04] <Ben64> most computers will not need one
[06:05] <vanishing> my laptop uses a nvidia card...doesn't function well withought one
[06:05] <gambi> Ben64: for hacks and custom settings for wacom and synaptic?
[06:05] <poleslav> Cause its 1am here and ive got to get some work done so see you all whenever i come back, and thank you all for the help! It's much appreciated
[06:05] <vanishing> thinkpad t520 to be exact
[06:05] <gambi> poleslav: good luck :)
[06:05] <vanishing> good luck
[06:18] <KI7MT> I should know this but I don't. In the Unity Top Bar, what's the name of the icon to the right of the Calendar, used for Logout, Shutdown, Lock etc?
[06:21] <tozen> KI7MT: what for?
[06:23] <KI7MT> On the Unity Service Panel .. the Cog at the far right, used to shutting down, switching users etc.. just need the proper name for it.
[06:24] <soupnazi> Hello, my computer overheated and restarted. When I rebooted it the GUI (Ubuntu) seemed off
[06:24] <soupnazi> When I open a program the UI Looks like something way out of date, as if it were from 8-10 years ago
[06:24] <soupnazi> What the hell happened?
[06:26] <MarkDavies> Hi
[06:26] <MarkDavies> Is it possible to comment a range of lines in vim?
[06:26] <Apollo> hey, so im having problems trying to manually unmount this external hdd i have. Its telling me it does not know the unmount command? and id prefer to not have to install other software to get the job done until i know the base tools
[06:27] <Raven> Hi how can I make an app from a command? I want to make an icon in the launcher out of a command
[06:28] <Apollo> right now im trying to unmount from the point which im assuming is in the /media file system.
[06:28] <tozen> Apollo: not an <unmount> but <umount>
[06:29] <Apollo> haha, great stuff.
[06:32] <malkauns> in 13.10 how do u get empathy to popup a new chat window when someone sends a message?
[06:35] <tozen> malkauns: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22292/get-chat-empathy-to-pop-up-when-people-are-talking-to-me
[06:36] <malkauns> tozen, thx, checking...
[06:36] <malkauns> tozen, ah i was just there and it seems that this version of empathy does not have that option :(
[06:37] <Backgammon> MarkDavies: Enter visual block mode, select the first characters of each line you want commented in a column, <I>, type your comment symbols, <Esc> will insert before each row selected in visual block
[06:37] <MarkDavies> thx
[06:37] <tozen> malkauns: emmm...no ideas im not using it, sorry
[06:37] <Backgammon> There are also a variety of scripts that do it more elegantly but that's the "pure" way
[06:37] <malkauns> :(
[06:39] <MarkDavies> Does somebody by chance use Ubuntu with a pure textual environment?
[06:39] <malkauns> MarkDavies, u mean Ubuntu server?
[06:40] <MarkDavies> malkauns: not necessarily a server, but if you use it often and heavily, then yes. I mean just if somebody use Ubuntu without the desktop balast.
[06:41] <Backgammon> You might as well use a different distro that isn't crippled and maimed then.
[06:41] <Backgammon> I mean, if you don't want GUI, why even bother with Ubuntu
[06:42] <joshs> i have upgraded to 13.10 and am having a problem with repositories
[06:42] <knightshade> hi
[06:42] <Backgammon> it doesn't even have su for crying out loud
[06:43] <MarkDavies> Backgammon: Ubuntu suits me just fine, but usually I don't need the graphical environment.
[06:43] <Backgammon> s/have/have proper
[06:43] <somsip> !text | MarkDavies
[06:43] <Backgammon> ...That's silly.
[06:43] <MarkDavies> Backgammon: why?
[06:43] <Backgammon> Use a different distro if you don't need the graphical environment.
[06:44] <Backgammon> Ubuntu's meant to be configured via GUI.
[06:44] <somsip> Backgammon: different users have different needs from you. Please avoid name calling. It's not productive or friendly
[06:44] <Backgammon> Ideas are silly, people may or may not be.
[06:44] <Backgammon> In a pluralist society we kill the ideas, not the bigots.
[06:44] <Backgammon> /shrug
[06:44] <marandi> hey guys , i have a huge problem with my keyboard and ubuntu 13.10 , i have wireless keyboard and bunch of hotkeys to make things easier for me ( for example : switching between languages , open terminal and etc ... ) but someday it wont work well , and when i start ubuntu , its seems left alt wont work well , because i cant switch with ( LShift + LAlt ) and i cant open terminal with ( CTRL + ALT + T ) and i should restart several times to make it right .. wha
[06:44] <somsip> Backgammon: time to calm down and get back on topic please
[06:45] <Backgammon> no, 's cool
[06:45] <MarkDavies> Backgammon: I use text tools heavily here and I'm quite happy with them. The problem is that I'm not fluent in them yet, so I can't do everything what I want to do freely. Some features offered by Ubuntu I find advantageous.
[06:45] <Backgammon> But text-only Ubuntu just doesn't seem to make sense.
[06:46] <Backgammon> Mmkay.
[06:46] <joshs> my update manager keeps telling me that there are updates but when i try to install them it fails
[06:46] <somsip> joshs: which ones?
[06:46] <Backgammon> (I use Ubuntu as a rescue LiveCD for systems with no way to disable secure boot so I'm pretty ignorant of it)
[06:47] <Backgammon> Usually I'm just mildly irritated at having to use sudo -i instead of su, heh
[06:47] <marandi> any suggestion ?!
[06:48] <tozen> joshs: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade??
[06:48] <joshs> the list is long but it involves meerkat maverick and i upgraded to 13.10
[06:48] <somsip> joshs: did you use any PPAs for maverick?
[06:49] <joshs> i don't think so
[06:49] <tozen> joshs: 13.10 is unstable version of ubuntu linux distros so it's developed for finding new bugs
[06:49] <somsip> joshs: paste the output showing the error
[06:49] <somsip> !fud | tozen
[06:49] <somsip> !paste | joshs
[06:50] <MarkDavies> is it possible to have the mouse working in real terminals?
[06:50] <somsip> !gpm | MarkDavies
[06:51] <MarkDavies> !gpm
[06:51] <somsip> !find gpm
[06:51] <MarkDavies> doesn't know anything about gpm
[06:51] <tozen> somsip: 13.10 is too buggy and it's true. ive tried to use it with all my expirience. was really dissapointed, pal
[06:51] <somsip> MarkDavies: so maybe it's confused. Pretty sure gpm is the server you want, though many years since I've installed that on anything
[06:52] <joshs> here it is W:GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220, W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 13.10 _Saucy Salamander_ - Release i386 (20131016.1)/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[06:52] <joshs> , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 13.10 _Saucy Salamander_ - Release i386 (20131016.1)/dists/saucy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[06:52] <joshs> , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-backports/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[06:52] <joshs> , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-backports/restricted/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[06:52] <joshs> , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-backports/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[06:52] <FloodBot1> joshs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:52] <joshs> , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-backports/multiverse/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[06:52] <somsip> tozen: that's a fair opinion, but it is only your experience. Please do not misrepresent it as an unstable version
[06:52] <somsip> joshs: use paste.ubuntu.com
[06:52] <Guest99616> How do you register your name?
[06:52] <somsip> !register | Guest99616
[06:53] <joshs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6719242/
[06:53] <Guest99616> ahh ok thanks
[06:53] <tozen> somsip:  really wont to argue. it isn't lts. thats it.
[06:53] <Backgammon> >misrepresent
[06:53] <Guest99616> so I just type !register | [CHOSEN NAME] etc?
[06:53] <somsip> tozen: no, it's not LTS
[06:54] <Backgammon> Guest99616: No.
[06:54] <somsip> Guest99616: read that link
[06:54] <Guest99616> ok thanks
[06:54] <joshs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6719242/
[06:55] <somsip> joshs: yes, hang on
[06:56] <somsip> joshs: so I would suggest you edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines that refer to those out-of-date repos. Then try again. Do you know how to do that?
[06:56] <joshs> no sorry
[06:56] <Backgammon> you guys could make your job so much easier by setting mode +R
[06:56] <Backgammon> That would make this channel boring, though
[06:56] <Backgammon> heehee
[06:57] <somsip> joshs: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # at the front of each of those. You may need to do some searching, but gedit should be easy enough to use
[06:57] <joshs> can i do it from a terminal?
[06:57] <somsip> joshs: yes, use the command I gave above
[06:58] <somsip> joshs: or any editor of choice, but gksudo gedit is perhaps the easiest
[07:00] <wh-hw> hi, guys
[07:00] <wh-hw> how to reinstall intel graphics card driver?
[07:00] <bingo>  Hello. The task-bar is not showing an icon for an active VPN connection. How can i fix this? Thank you
[07:01] <joshs> here is what that came up with http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:01] <somsip> joshs: (empty)
[07:02] <joshs> sorry
[07:02] <packetscaper> hello does anyone work in gns3 ?
[07:03] <Backgammon> wh:hw: sudo apt-get install --reinstall [relevant packages]
[07:03] <joshs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6719269/
[07:03] <somsip> packetscaper: the gns3 forum is probably the best place for support
[07:04] <somsip> packetscaper: irc on here at #gns3 too
[07:04] <packetscaper> somip: thanks
[07:05] <Guest47469> hello
[07:05] <Backgammon> whoops
[07:05] <somsip> joshs: ah - have a look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d as there may be some old repos in there too. use 'sudo mv {file} {file}.bak' to disable those. I think...
[07:05] <Backgammon> wh-hw: sudo apt-get install --reinstall [relevant packages]
[07:06] <wh-hw> Backgammon, i'm using ubuntu 10.10
[07:06] <somsip> !10.10 | wh-hw
[07:07] <somsip> wh-hw: so you either need to find something unofficial somewhere, or upgrade to a supported version
[07:07] <Backgammon> might wanna upgrade then
[07:07] <wh-hw> yeah, but i can not enter desktop
[07:07] <Guest99616> It appears that GNOME 3 and Compiz dont get on very well
[07:07] <Backgammon> Use a LiveCD
[07:07] <Guest99616> GNOME 3 would be alright if it had some of the features of Compiz
[07:07] <wh-hw> can not insert password on gdm menu
[07:07] <Backgammon> Yank your data off from within the LiveCD, and install over it.
[07:08] <Backgammon> well that's somewhat simpler to solve
[07:09] <Backgammon> Like, did you forget your password?
[07:09] <Backgammon> or is your graphics driver broken and you have no GUI
[07:09] <joshs> i have no idea how to do that
[07:09] <wh-hw> no, it doesn't have an password enter menu appear
[07:09] <wh-hw> have gdm
[07:10] <Backgammon> Is it just a black screen? Does gdm partially load but no password entry shows up?
[07:10] <wh-hw> but when i click my username , it  no password menu appear
[07:10] <Jeffry> I am back after finallty getting bootrepair running
[07:10] <wh-hw> Backgammon, yes
[07:10] <Backgammon> ...
[07:10] <Jeffry> so who wanted the log?
[07:10] <somsip> joshs: cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d && grep -nir 'maverick' . (then paste the output)
[07:10] <wh-hw> no password entry shows up
[07:12] <Jeffry> ok i guess there not on could somone else help with my grub not being defualt boot manager?
[07:12] <Backgammon> wh-hw: do this for me
[07:12] <Backgammon> do you have that computer handy?
[07:12] <wh-hw> yes
[07:12] <Backgammon> Boot it up
[07:12] <wh-hw> yeah
[07:13] <Jeffry> im useing a efi system
[07:13] <Backgammon> when you get to the screen where things are broken
[07:13] <Backgammon> hit ctrl-alt-F1
[07:13] <Backgammon> You should get a text prompt
[07:13] <wh-hw> and ?
[07:13] <Backgammon> and enter "sudo gdm --version"
[07:13] <Backgammon> what's it say?
[07:14] <wh-hw> Backgammon, GDM 2.30.5
[07:14] <Backgammon> could be any number of things causing that, then
[07:14] <shapow> Anyone know how to set a default sound output device (13.10)? Changing set-default-sink [index] at cli works, but setting it in /etc/pulse/default.pa the change has no effect on reboot
[07:14] <Backgammon> You might as well upgrade now, you can do it via that text prompt you're looking at without signing in
[07:15] <joshs> i am kinda new to this ubuntu thing so i am do not really know how to do much on here yet
[07:15] <MarkDavies> How can I change GRUB2 menu so some systems listed here would disappear?
[07:15] <wh-hw> Backgammon, i can not upgrade it , it end of life
[07:15] <somsip> joshs: that's why I'm trying to tell you exactly what to type...
[07:16] <joshs> do i type it in a terminal?
[07:16] <somsip> joshs: yes
[07:16] <MarkDavies> I've read about the possibility of adding new entries, but is it possible to delete the unecessary ones?
[07:16] <somsip> MarkDavies: what do you want to remove?
[07:17] <MarkDavies> Ubuntu apart from Xen inside.
[07:17] <Backgammon> wh-hw: that won't prevent you from upgrading to the latest version of Ubuntu
[07:17] <MarkDavies> somsip: ^
[07:17] <Jeffry> coluld somone check my bootrepair log? and see why grub isnt the defualt boot manager?
[07:17] <somsip> MarkDavies: ah - I have no experience of xen.
[07:17] <wh-hw> Backgammon, you mean dist-upgrade?
[07:17] <MarchJoinsToss> pastebin
[07:17] <MarkDavies> somsip: it isn't necessary to have the experience of Xen, I just want to know how to modify GRUB2 menu.
[07:18] <joshs> i did and i didnt do anything
[07:18] <Jeffry> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6719260/ this is my log
[07:18] <MarchJoinsToss> code
[07:18] <glitsj16> shapow: pulseaudio defaults to a per-user setup these days, so you need to add it to ~/.pulse/default.pa
[07:18] <MarchJoinsToss> send me the code
[07:18] <somsip> MarkDavies: and it depends on what you want to remove. If it was old kernels, remove them and update grub. If it's another OS, remove it and update grub. Hence my question 'what do you want to remove'
[07:18] <somsip> MarchJoinsToss: do you have a support question?
[07:18] <Backgammon> No, I mean like upgrade from 10.10 to 13.10
[07:19] <Jeffry> march are you talking to me?
[07:19] <MarchJoinsToss> send me the code for pastebin simple http server
[07:19] <MarkDavies> somsip: first, I can't do it, but regardless of that, I want to delete *entries*, not real kernels.
[07:19] <somsip> !pastebin | MarchJoinsToss
[07:19] <somsip> MarkDavies: I'm not sure what you mean then. I'll leave it to someone else.
[07:20] <MarchJoinsToss> send the code
[07:20] <glitsj16> shapow: and you don't need a reboot after doing the edit, pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio -D should restart it
[07:20] <somsip> MarkDavies: unless this will help you 'info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration''
[07:21] <joshs> i typed it in and nothing happened
[07:21] <somsip> joshs: and that earlier paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/6719269/ was the full file was it?
[07:21] <Jeffry> march if you talking to me just click the link i posted
[07:21] <joshs> i believe so
[07:21] <wh-hw> Backgammon, how to do that ?
[07:21] <anew> what is -|
[07:21] <anew> ?
[07:21] <MarkDavies> Damn. Why did they do it so difficult?
[07:22] <Backgammon> wh-hw: see http://lawrit.lawr.ucdavis.edu/it-help-center/how-to/upgrading-ubuntu-via-command-line
[07:22] <shapow> glitsj16: thanks for the tip
[07:22] <somsip> joshs: just seen it at line 4. edit the file again and put a # on line 4
[07:22] <joshs> ok i'll try
[07:22] <somsip> anew: it's usually called 'pipe'
[07:22] <anew> what does pipe do ?
[07:22] <eblise> hello
[07:22] <somsip> anew: sends the output of one command to another, eg: ls -la | less
[07:22] <Backgammon> anew: feeds whatever is before it as stdin to whatever's after it
[07:23] <wh-hw> Backgammon, this update 10.10 to 11.04 or 13.10?
[07:23] <Backgammon> uh
[07:23] <shapow> glitsj16: no chance to reason with global default.pa? whats the limitation? if you know / it is known?
[07:23] <MarkDavies> Seems like I should disable grub-mkconfig, but then the system will not be able to do automatic updates after I download the security downloads that replace or modify the kernel.
[07:23] <Backgammon> I presume 13.10
[07:23] <Backgammon> somsip: will do-release-upgrade upgrade to latest available version?
[07:24] <somsip> MarkDavies: seems messy, but I suppose it makes sense
[07:24] <somsip> Backgammon: why me???? :) Just looking...
[07:25] <Backgammon> I'm not too familiar with things specific to Ubuntu rather than to Linux, but you look pretty experienced?
[07:25] <somsip> wh-hw: Backgammon: looks like you have to reinstall from 12.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/227803/how-to-ubuntu-upgrade-from-10-10-to-12-10-32-bit
[07:25] <somsip> Backgammon: I'll pick up answers I can...if I can
[07:25] <Backgammon> Oh, huh, no upgrade without reinstall from non-LTS?
[07:26] <joshs> i hope i got it
[07:26] <Backgammon> interesting
[07:26] <somsip> Backgammon: first result I found, not many upvotes. Maybe more research is required by the OP
[07:26] <Backgammon> Yeah, you probably just want to get the latest installer and reinstall
[07:26] <somsip> joshs: and will it update now?
[07:27] <glitsj16> shapow: it all depends on how your pulseaudio is configured (and the syntax needs to be correct ofcourse) .. check what's in /etc/init/pulseaudio.conf, that has it all explained
[07:27] <somsip> wh-hw: this might help you too given you only want to reinstall one driver http://is.gd/8iFd5z
[07:27] <shapow> glitsj16: pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio -D caused a crash and didn't want to restart. adding local ~/.pulse/default.pa (with only set-default-sink) caused no sound cards to be detected.
[07:27] <joshs> it says it was last updated 8 days ago but doesnt list any to install
[07:28] <somsip> joshs: what says that? did you 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'?
[07:28] <MedicalJaneParis> is ufw + fail2ban the best way to block hosts after repeat attempts or is there something built into ufw?
[07:28] <joshs> update manager says that
[07:28] <somsip> MedicalJaneParis: f2b merely triggers ufw IIRC
[07:28] <Jeffry> I dont think anyone can help can they?
[07:29] <somsip> joshs: try the line I just posted, in a terminal. It might give you more error info it there is any
[07:29] <shapow> glitsj16: basically have an HDMI audio output and a stereo duplex on the same card. wanting to tell the HDMI audio output to take a hike and disappear.
[07:29] <glitsj16> shapow: okay, first thing to check: is your pulseaudio configured per-user ? that should be easy enough to tell by looking at the /etc/init/pulseaudio.conf .. paste it if you're not sure
[07:30] <joshs> command not found
[07:30] <somsip> joshs: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[07:31] <glitsj16> shapow: if you see something like "#start on runlevel [2345]" in the beginning of /etc/init/pulseaudio.conf that means it is per-user
[07:31] <shapow> http://p.pomf.se/2431
[07:31] <shapow> aha
[07:32] <anew> www-data ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /var/www
[07:32] <joshs> again command not found
[07:32] <shapow> glitsj16: [016]
[07:32] <anew> do i have to specify a file for this?
[07:32] <anew> in sudoeers
[07:32] <anew> or can i just specify the dir ?
[07:32] <shapow> glitsj16: woops, sorry thats stop :)
[07:32] <somsip> anew: NOOOO!!!! What are you really wanting to do?
[07:32] <shapow> glitsj16: see the paste http://p.pomf.se/2431
[07:32] <anew> yes i have to do this
[07:32] <glitsj16> shapow: indeed, so confirming that pulseaudio is configured per-user, which is what you want
[07:32] <anew> is this correct or do i need to specify a dir
[07:33] <Backgammon> >http://pomf.se/
[07:33] <Backgammon> three obscure memes crammed into one homepage
[07:33] <Backgammon> impressive
[07:33] <somsip> joshs: without the quotes? sudo apt-get update (let it finish) then sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:33] <somsip> anew: putting www-data in sudoers does not seem to be a correct thing to do at all. What are you trying to achieve?
[07:34] <shapow> glitsj16: its commented out, is it still per-user?
[07:34] <anew> please just answer if the syntax is correct !
[07:34] <Backgammon> anew: you really don't want to do that, correct or not
[07:34] <anew> ...
[07:34] <anew> is the syntax correct
[07:34] <anew> that's all i want to know
[07:34] <Backgammon> that aside visudo will not let you save if the syntax is incorrect so if it saved it is correct
[07:35] <glitsj16> shapow: now you need to make sure you have a fully configured ~/.pulse/default.pa .. which is more than the oneliner about the default sink you mentioned before, you can copy the content from /etc/pulse/default.pa as an example
[07:35] <Backgammon> you did use visudo right
[07:35] <anew> no i did not
[07:35] <anew> what is visudo
[07:35] <Backgammon> holy fuck what are you doing
[07:35] <Ben64> watch the language please Backgammon
[07:35] <glitsj16> shapow: the start stanza is commented out yes, meaning pulseaudio will not start at those runlevels
[07:35] <somsip> anew: if you dont know to use visudo, you should also question if you know what you are doing putting www-data in sudoers. Last strong hint from me
[07:35] <Ben64> and it would really help if you'd explain your goals anew
[07:35] <Backgammon> did you just sudo vi /etc/sudoers
[07:35] <somsip> !language | Backgammon (you should know better)
[07:36] <hipitihop_> glitsj16, thanks for dropping a note, appreciated, no rush
[07:36] <shapow> glitsj16: the idea is to have a system-wide change
[07:36] <Backgammon> Oh, it is the official support channel.
[07:36] <Backgammon> My bad.
[07:36] <anew> the line is in the file... so i must have edited it properly ...
[07:36] <glitsj16> hipitihop_: hi mate :) no trouble, i'll drop by in a few
[07:37] <Ben64> anew: please explain what it is you're trying to accomplish
[07:37] <glitsj16> shapow: okay, so you can edit the default.pa file in /etc/pulse to add the sink
[07:37] <joshs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6719390/
[07:37] <hipitihop_> no drama, I have no more details or expriments beyond what I have noted on answers/bug
[07:37] <shapow> glitsj16: been doing that lately to no avail
[07:38] <wh-hw> somsip, Backgammon : thanks , i will have a try
[07:38] <somsip> joshs: ok - edit it again and comment out lines 38 and 39
[07:38] <glitsj16> shapow: do you still have a default.pa in your ~/.pulse ? if so move that out of the way
[07:39] <joshs> how do i comment out?
[07:39] <somsip> joshs: both of those refer to maverick-backports, just so you know which ones to do
[07:39] <glitsj16> hipitihop_: yeah i took a quick peek on the bug, i'll explain later 'as it is rather off-topic)
[07:39] <anew> auth.log is 0b so i guess it www-data is not running as sudo
[07:39] <somsip> joshs: add a # to the beginning. Using gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <Ben64> anew: please explain what it is you're trying to accomplish
[07:40] <shapow> glitsj16: its out, would starting pulse in system mode allow me to set the default sink? strange because that global default.pa file gets parsed say if i add module-loopback to load. its only setting the default sink that is giving trouble
[07:40] <anew> i am trying to allow www-data to run as sudo
[07:40] <somsip> anew: to allow PHP scrips to run commands that need root access?
[07:40] <anew> should i change www-date to apache in apache ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /var/www
[07:41] <Ben64> anew: thats not a goal, thats a bad idea
[07:41] <anew> thats my goal
[07:41] <anew> now how can i do it
[07:41] <Ben64> that is what you see as a solution to a problem, what is the actual problem
[07:41] <glitsj16> shapow: like it is explained it is not recommended to run pulseaudio in system-mode, but let's try to add the sink .. can you paste /etc/pulse/default.pa please?
[07:42] <joshs> i have no clue how to edit sorry
[07:42] <somsip> anew: http://is.gd/JKRQ4e http://is.gd/IgPYGL
[07:42] <jnhghy> I have some content on my website that I need to be able to prove that was available between a certain period, is there a "time server" service? is there an acredited site/company that can offer such an accreditation? anybody know about something like this?
[07:42] <anew> the problem is i cannot run anything as sudo from www-date
[07:42] <somsip> joshs: you did it earlier and I've told you 3 times now. gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list (in a terminal)
[07:43] <Ben64> anew: that still is not the real actual problem
[07:44] <Jeffry> Guys in the grub file should i set GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to 1?
[07:44] <anew> that is the problem
[07:44] <anew> i dont know how many times i have to say it...
[07:44] <anew> i want to run www-data as sudo
[07:44] <anew> i tried changing www-data to apache
[07:44] <Ben64> there is no reason to ever have that
[07:44] <anew> it still didnt work
[07:44] <shapow> glitsj16: its stock from 13.10 install with no changes. i'm copying it now lmk if you still need it
[07:44] <Backgammon> I dunno, he's a volunteer and isn't really obliged to help you.
[07:44] <Ben64> so what are you really trying to accomplish?!
[07:44] <somsip> anew: here's a third link for you http://is.gd/gUyKiA
[07:44]  * hipitihop_ reboots as mouse has just got lag, never seen that before
[07:44] <Backgammon> So you can say it as many times as you want.
[07:45] <Ben64> www-data never needs and should never have sudo access
[07:45] <anew> that looks good somsip will try that
[07:45] <anew> the only useful answer in here
[07:45] <anew> thx
[07:45] <jnhghy> anew: why do you want to give www-data sudo access?
[07:45] <Ben64> if you'd ever explain your actual problem, maybe someone here could help you
[07:45] <glitsj16> shapow: i'm still on 13.04 so not sure what came with 13.10, a paste would be welcome so we can stay on the same page on the issue
[07:45] <shapow> glitsj16: http://p.pomf.se/2432
[07:45] <somsip> anew: the useful answer is *dont do it*. I'm just shutting you up, I'm sad to say
[07:46] <glitsj16> shapow: thanks, having a look
[07:46] <Backgammon> also, has anyone looked at either coreboot or kernel.org's Secure Boot System pre-bootloader?
[07:46] <shapow> glitsj16: sure!
[07:46] <anew> obv this guy had a reason to do it also
[07:46] <shapow> Backgammon: I'm a proud owner of a c720 with seabios (coreboot)
[07:46] <Ben64> anew: what you're asking for is going to get you hacked
[07:46] <somsip> anew: it's possible for more than one person to have a bad idea.
[07:46] <Backgammon> How's feature coverage of coreboot at this point?
[07:46] <shapow> Backgammon: the latest (7 i think) x86 chromebooks are almost entirely libre machines with exception of bluetooth
[07:47] <Backgammon> hmhm
[07:48] <shapow> Backgammon: Can't relay specifics, don't know them atm, but reports have it that they run pretty much any OS you throw at it... openbsd is being ported. but who uses that anyway ;)
[07:48] <glitsj16> shapow: okay, looks clean, but no default sink is present currently .. do you have the sink info you would like to become default?
[07:48] <Backgammon> Huh, pretty good
[07:48] <Backgammon> I'm hearing things like how suspend to RAM doesn't work on some boards, etc
[07:48] <shapow> glitsj16: basically just the penultimate line would be `set-default-sink 1' to specify the stereo-output instead of index 0 which is the hdmi output
[07:49] <Backgammon> I don't have an external flasher, though, so sadly I can't see for myself
[07:49] <shapow> Backgammon: yeah, the trackpads on these latest machines only work after adding patches... and suspend is finicky... the report comes from arch linux. i don't know about ubuntu
[07:50] <Jeffry> hey backgammon wernt you helping mywith my problem earlyer today?
[07:50] <joshs> i put #'s in front of them
[07:51] <somsip> joshs: so save and do the sudo apt-get-update thing again
[07:51] <glitsj16> shapow: i would love that being possible too, unfortunately pulseaudio devs are not sharing our wishes heh, let me have a minute to check on something and i'll get back to you
[07:51] <shapow> glitsj16: i've tried specifying the full name and the index, no effect on restart/killing pulse. but the commands work fine live
[07:51] <glitsj16> shapow: can you show what works on the commandline?
[07:52] <shapow> glitsj16: sorry, i meant no effect on reboot, not restarting pulse.
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Jeffry: Are you able to boot Ubuntu at all?
[07:52] <shapow> glitsj16: pactl set-default-sink 1 -> works
[07:53] <Jeffry> yes i am
[07:53] <shapow> glitsj16: pactl set-default-sink 0 -> also works, sets back to dread hdmi output
[07:53] <glitsj16> shapow: i believe the issue is that you can't be sure which card gets set with what index on a reboot, but we can try to do something about that, please hold
[07:54] <glitsj16> shapow: that's probably why on reboot the other card is assigned index 1 .. does this make some (weird) sense?
[07:54] <shapow> glitsj16: awesome ok :) [background music plays]
[07:54] <glitsj16> shapow: cool :) i'll dig up something
[07:54] <shapow> glitsj16: makes perfect sense. although the cards are in the same order on every reboot
[07:55] <joshs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6719428/
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Jeffry: Please pastebin the output if "sudo efibootmgr".
[07:55] <shapow> glitsj16: hdmi always first -.- wish i could just disable it permanently
[07:55] <glitsj16> shapow: it is actually alsa that gives the cards a different (unpredictable) index
[07:55] <shapow> glitsj16: oh well that makes more sense
[07:55] <somsip> joshs: you need to comment out line 4 with the reference to cdrom. I thought you did this the first time. Sorry i I missed it. Edit and update again
[07:55] <Backgammon> Jeffry: ...I was? I don't think so.
[07:56] <joshs> it is my first time trying any of this
[07:56] <somsip> joshs: and it's still showing errors for the backports, so make sure lines 38 and 39 are commented out
[07:56] <somsip> joshs: well this is your last chance as I'm going out in a minute
[07:56] <Jeffry> Jordan_U: It just says Command not found
[07:57] <glitsj16> shapow: just to confirm .. are both cards onboard or do any usb cards come into play?
[07:57] <shapow> glitsj16: onboard
[07:58] <glitsj16> shapow: okay, i'll prepare a quick paste so you can have a look and prepare a test, 1 minute
[07:58] <joshs> i thought hash tags took care of those
[07:58] <shapow> glitsj16: cool
[07:58] <somsip> joshs: you have the file. You can check it
[07:59] <glitsj16> shapow: in the mean time, can you check if you have /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and paste that if you do?
[07:59] <joshs> if i put a hash tag in front it should take care of it right?
[07:59] <MedicalJaneParis> anyone have an idea why rsyslogd wouldn't be logging file changes to syslog? I have it pointing to nginx error log, but it isn't making it to syslog
[08:00] <somsip> joshs: yes. Did you save it? When you open the file does it stil have a hash in front of it? Remember you can use up and down arrows in terminal to repeat teh same commmand quickly
[08:00] <Jordan_U> Jeffry: Are you sure thst you didn't make a typo?
[08:00] <Karmahacker> Hi guys! enyone can suggest how to protect vncserver from brute force attacks?
[08:00] <shapow> glitsj16: http://p.pomf.se/2433
[08:00] <Backgammon> >[02:59:27] <joshs> if i put a hash tag in front it should take care of it right?
[08:00] <Backgammon> >hash tag
[08:00] <Backgammon> I have no words
[08:00] <Jeffry> Jordan_U: What do you mean?
[08:00] <somsip> Karmahacker: fail2ban maybe, but it could be a big solution for a small problem
[08:01] <Backgammon> you are forever lost to the forces of darkness
[08:01] <Karmahacker> it would be best solution
[08:01] <Karmahacker> somsip
[08:01] <Karmahacker> but  i have no idea how to add  vnc protocol in there
[08:02] <Ben64> Karmahacker: you should be using vnc over ssh anyway
[08:02] <somsip> Karmahacker: if vnc outputs to a log, you create a new filter to watch the log. Read up on F2B website
[08:02] <Jordan_U> Jeffry: Please pastebin the full contents of your terminal after running "sudo efibootmgr".
[08:03] <Karmahacker> somsip  vnc write to  it own log
[08:04] <shapow> Jeffry: If you typed `sudo efibootmgr' in a command line terminal and it still says Command not found, then run `sudo apt-get install efibootmgr', it should prompt you for your user password after you hit enter. After it will ask you to confirm installation. Type `y' and hit enter. After installation, try `sudo efibootmgr' again, and copy this into a paste website
[08:04] <Ben64> Karmahacker: vnc is not a secure protocol to start with, you should really do it over a ssh tunnel
[08:05] <Jeffry> Jordan_U: I'm going to restart and see if sudo efibootmgr eill work then ok?
[08:05] <Jordan_U> shapow: If efibootmgr isn't installed then something seriously odd is going on.
[08:05] <shapow> Karmahacker: VNC out in the wild is a very very dangerous endeavor and while fail2ban might help you, it is much better and safer for you to use VNC over SSH as mentioned before. Read up a bit on SSH and ask any questions.
[08:05] <shapow> Jordan_U: Does Jeffry have a Windows 8 machine / certain EFI installation?
[08:06] <shapow> Jeffry: You shouldn't need to restart for the program to appear, just try copying and pasting verbatim `sudo efibootmgr' without the quotes into terminal
[08:06] <glitsj16> shapow: turns out your alsa-base.conf looks good, so i believe you can use 'set-default-sink alsa_output.analog-stereo' in /etc/pulse/default.pa (near the bottom) and try restarting pulseaudio
[08:06] <shapow> Jeffry: If not, try what I said before
[08:06] <Jordan_U> Jeffry: No. Please do exactly as I asked and run "sudo efibootmgr" the pastebin the complete contents of your terminal. No matter what error message you get, I want to see the full contents of your terminal.
[08:07] <Karmahacker> Ben64, shapow,  im  using  vnc with  " guacamole"   to share screen on public   : (
[08:07] <anew> if i su - www-data as a test ... it still wont work
[08:07] <shapow> glitsj16: ok will give a try!
[08:08] <Ben64> anew: stop trying to do the wrong thing and explain your goal so we can help you do the right thing
[08:08] <glitsj16> shapow: we can try another option if this doesn't work first time, i hope it does though :)
[08:09] <anew> i have to run a script remotely!!!!
[08:09] <anew> what is so difficult about that to understand
[08:09] <shapow> glitsj16: I'll restart my machine to see if i hear the drums on bootup :) IRC is on my other synergy machine so it won't close
[08:09] <Backgammon> at no point did you ever tell us that
[08:09] <Ben64> anew: you've never said that before, and what script? why does www-data need to run it?
[08:09] <glitsj16> shapow: sweet, the drums heh, been a while for me
[08:10] <shapow> Karmahacker: Are you required to share your screen to the world ? Or is it only on a local LAN? I.e. no open VNC ports on your firewall/gateway?
[08:10] <shapow> glitsj16
[08:10] <anew> because i need some other users to access it on a website that is also built
[08:10] <anew> so they can just click buttons
[08:10] <anew> they cant use cli
[08:10] <Karmahacker> shapow world
[08:11] <glitsj16> shapow: no rush, as you're helping out here
[08:11] <rm_work_> how can I tell what exactly is being processed when I log in via SSH? I know it goes through /etc/bash.bashrc, and then at some point ~/.bashrc , but it also does some other stuff, and whatever that "other stuff" comprises is taking like 10 seconds to run...
[08:11] <anew> they have to access the script remotely and cant access as user
[08:11] <anew> and the only way they can access it is as www-data
[08:11] <shapow> glitsj16: unfortunately there is no change. pulse is stubborn.
[08:12] <Ben64> anew: what does said script do
[08:12] <rm_work_> 12 seconds from printing the welcome message to actually getting a prompt on login is really lame… trying to debug
[08:12] <anew> www-data ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /var/www i have this line in sudoers
[08:12] <anew> it just connects to a vpn
[08:12] <anew> if u know perl i can copy paste it
[08:12] <jeffry> Jordan_U: I'm back
[08:12] <shapow> Karmahacker: Are you wanting to leave VNC open to world? Or could you make do with a clever (safer) workaround?
[08:13] <shapow> glitsj16: Maybe try per-user configuration this time?
[08:14] <Karmahacker> shapow  yes im sharing  screen on my server by guacamole (without full access)
[08:15] <truba> does anyone work with qemu in gns3 ?? I am unable to get it working
[08:15] <anew> any help?
[08:15] <anew> anyone...
[08:15] <glitsj16> shapow: it can be yes .. try the quick hack .. test if 'pacmd set-default-sink alsa_output.analog-stereo' changes anything for the better (or your earlier command using pactl) and if it does you can let that autostart on login through the ~/config/autostart/...desktop file you will need to add in that case .. hold off a bit before going per-user, should be a quick test
[08:16] <shapow> glitsj16: set-default-sink alsa_output.analog-stereo -> Failure: No such entity :(
[08:16] <Backgammon> anew: I suggest you try #perl
[08:17] <glitsj16> shapow: okay, the pactl command does still work?
[08:17] <Backgammon> Your issue really is not sudoers syntax but rather perl programming
[08:17] <anew> www-data ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /var/www
[08:17] <anew> this is a sudo problem
[08:17] <anew> is this syntax correct
[08:17] <Backgammon> your program is one big problem
[08:17] <anew> there is no other way to do it
[08:18] <Backgammon> and there is probably a better way to do what you are trying to do without sudo shenanigans
[08:18] <shapow> glitsj16: pactl set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo -> works
[08:18] <anew> there is no way to allow remote users sudo access
[08:18] <Backgammon> Well, maybe #perl will have a different opinion on that.
[08:18] <anew> who cant use cli !!!!
[08:18] <Ben64> especially without giving www-data free reign to the system
[08:18] <anew> its not that hard to understand
[08:18] <anew> www-data ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /var/www this doesnt seem to be working
[08:19] <shapow> Karmahacker: So the objective is to make it your VNC less vulnerable to brute-force attacks...?
[08:19] <jeffry> Jordan_U, here you go http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6719504/
[08:19] <glitsj16> shapow: cool, so you might give it a shot by adding a user autostart entree using that command in a .desktop file under ~/.config/autostart .. do you know how to do that?
[08:21] <shapow> glitsj16: There is google-chrome.desktop there that reveals the syntax of autostart files so will give it a shot!
[08:21] <Jordan_U> jeffry: You have multiple typos there. It's "sudo efibootmgr", copy and paste the command from this message if you need to.
[08:21] <Karmahacker> shapow : yes exactly  i like the way of fail2ban but i'm not sure how possible add vnc protocol in there
[08:21] <shapow> glitsj16: What about just adding the command to Startup Applications?
[08:22] <glitsj16> shapow: you might also have one there already for pulseaudio, use either of those as example and make another post so we can check syntax before testing again
[08:22] <glitsj16> shapow: that is the same routine, that'll work as well
[08:23] <shapow> glitsj16: Will try startup applications. Its 3:23 AM.  While searching for your request ... https://vpsboard.com/topic/2446-securing-vnc-fail2ban/
[08:26] <anew> www-data ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD
[08:26] <shapow> Karmahacker: TL;DR, VNC is so insecure... especially out in the open. inquire about tunneling vnc through an SSH session which is the much saner option. if you REALLY need VNC out in the open, like for a business presentation or something......... then say so!
[08:26] <anew> just as a test
[08:26] <anew> would this remove pwd for all www-data
[08:27] <Karmahacker> shapow:  Thank you i think is exactly  my case
[08:28] <Karmahacker> shapow: yes i s kind a presentation
[08:28] <somsip> Karmahacker: told you already - find an entry in the vnc log you want to block, create a new filter for it
[08:28] <shapow> Karmahacker: The business presentation thing? Oh devil....
[08:29] <Karmahacker> somsip  yes ) that is the only way i found )
[08:29] <Karmahacker> somsip : i will chek it for sure thank you again
[08:30] <shapow> glitsj16: Restarting again, didn't have an effect with just `pactl [etc]', so trying full /usr/bin/pactl
[08:31] <shapow> Karmahacker: What somsip said sounds accurate, you need to make a rule in fail2ban that parses the vnc log's entries
[08:31] <tr0n> i installed 13.10 on a chromebook, how do i find and activate the webcam?
[08:31] <jeffry> Jordan_U,  did you get that paste bin?
[08:31] <Jordan_U> jeffry: Yes.
[08:32] <jeffry> Ok