[13:10] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:11] <jrwren> what is good about it?
[13:14] <cmaloney> jrwren: one day closer to the heat-death of the universe?
[13:19] <brousch> I didn't even have to use my AK
[13:23] <jrwren> i'm bitchy because my home internet is wonky
[13:23] <jrwren> anyone got a moto surfboard with comcast and can hit http://<IP_ADDRESS>/cmSignal.htm
[13:23] <jrwren> and tell me your Downstream Power Level bonding values ?
[13:23] <ColonelPanic001> GOOD MORNING MY NEIGHBORS
[13:32] <cmaloney> jrwren: WOW, so no dice here.
[13:37] <jrwren> cmaloney: I'd take wow values if its a cable modem.
[13:37] <jrwren> i'd like to know Downstream Power Level for reference
[13:38] <rick_h_> jrwren: what's on there? I don't have a surfboard but on business device but can see if there's anything else that's equiv?
[13:40] <cmaloney> jrwren: Sent screenshot.
[13:40] <jrwren> dBmV  values
[13:40] <cmaloney> Yeah, I have an ARRIS modem
[13:40] <jrwren> oh, I called. known issue they are working on it and its a 1pm resolved time.
[13:41] <jrwren> I guess I'm glad they called.
[13:41] <cmaloney> nice.
[13:41] <jrwren> err, glad I called.
[13:41] <jrwren> *grumble*
[13:41] <jrwren> so weird.
[13:41] <jrwren> this IRC is working
[13:41] <jrwren> work IRC is working.
[13:41] <jrwren> I could do ssome things for work
[13:41] <jrwren> but, I can't open lean kit :(
[13:41] <rick_h_> heh
[13:41] <rick_h_> ssh work?
[13:41] <jrwren> gmail is intermitent
[13:41] <rick_h_> e.g. can you tunnel through guimaas?
[13:41] <jrwren> rick_h_: yes, I sshed to your house successfully :)
[13:42] <jrwren> rick_h_: hrm. great question.
[13:42]  * jrwren tries
[13:42] <cmaloney> That'd be hilarious / sad that it's not the connection but some bullshit they're doing on non-encrypted traffic.
[13:42] <cmaloney> (assuming IRC is using SASL)
[13:43] <jrwren> WOW! that works.
[13:43] <jrwren> which makes ZERO sense.
[13:43] <rick_h_> jrwren: :/
[13:43] <cmaloney> And my bullshit theory suddenly got plausible.
[13:45] <jrwren> cmaloney: whoa, you may be right.
[13:45] <jrwren> cmaloney: work irc is definitely encrypted.
[13:45] <jrwren> cmaloney: but the weird part is that i couldn't establish new ssl connections
[13:46] <jrwren> and it is somewhat localized. rick_h comcast odesn't have the problem :(
[13:47] <cmaloney> Well, to be fair, I'm pretty sure rick_h_'s internet bits scare away any attempts to tamper with them
[14:35] <Sponge> quick question: is this chat for any level ubuntu user?
[14:35] <waldo323> Yes
[14:46] <cmaloney> Sponge: Absolutely.
[15:49] <greg-g> cmaloney: http://diffuser.fm/u2-songs-of-innocence-tool-opiate-record-store-day/
[15:49] <cmaloney> That. Is... awesome. :)
[15:50] <cmaloney> I can see why U2 fans feel shortchanged getting a Tool EP instead of their U2 album. They normally get four tools for the price of one .
[15:50] <cmaloney> — Jeremy Allen (@jeres) April 19, 2015
[15:51] <greg-g> :) :)
[15:56] <cmaloney> Anyone else have their Diskstations suddenly go incommunicado after a while?
[16:03] <brousch> diskstation?
[16:11] <cmaloney> Synology
[16:32] <greg-g> cmaloney: more details please :)
[16:33] <jrwren> alright, this is really fucked. So I go to coffee shop, VPN home and my itunes playing from home server NAS is less choppy than it was at home. Maybe my wifi router is dying at home?
[16:33] <greg-g> huh
[16:35] <jrwren> weirdest network issues I've ever had.
[17:06] <brousch> cmaloney: Actually my NAS has done that twice in the last year. I never did figure out why
[17:15] <Sponge> SWEET
[17:16] <_stink_> ..
[17:31] <cscheib> jrwren: change your wifi channel? ensure there're no sources of interference, like microwaves... you'll probably have to get a wifi analyzer (there're a few trials) to figure out what part of the spectrum is most unused
[17:32] <jrwren> cscheib: its 5Ghz shouldn't be interverence.
[17:32] <rick_h_> cscheib: and it works better with a tunnel so not likely to be the wifi side
[17:33] <cscheib> rick_h_: I mean his wifi at home.
[17:34] <cscheib> unless the choppiness is occurring on wired at home, which would be odd
[17:34] <rick_h_> my bad /me missed the update from the coffee shop
[17:34] <jrwren> unsure about the choppiness in audio on wifi
[17:34] <jrwren> but the crazy internet issues do occur on wired and wifi
[17:34] <cscheib> jrwren: 5Ghz is still an unlicensed spectrum
[17:34] <jrwren> sure
[17:35] <jrwren> and in my neighborhood where the houses are reasonably far appart, there should be no bleed over in teh 5Ghz range
[17:35] <cscheib> you may also need to enable (or disable) the wider channels
[17:35] <jrwren> that said, I'll fire up a wlaninfo on my wifes windows laptop and see what I can see
[17:35] <jrwren> the thing is, its worked wonderfully for a year until yesterday
[17:36] <jrwren> so unless that AP is dying, no setting changed
[17:36] <jrwren> or a enighbor really did bring up some new 5Ghz and is fucking with my signal. :(
[20:37] <mrgoodcat>  my new favorite link shortener http://www.shadyurl.com/
[20:37] <mrgoodcat> Don't just shorten your URL, make it suspicious and frightening.
[20:46] <cmaloney> heh
[22:23] <rick_h_>  <3 my team http://writing.drab-makyo.com/posts/tech/2015/04/21/done-vs-finished/


[00:29] <Menacemonster> Hey
[00:29] <Menacemonster> Can anyone help me with an install ?
[00:30] <Menacemonster> i'm kinda a newb lol
[00:31] <Menacemonster> is anyone here ?
[00:33] <Menacemonster> hi is anyone here ?
[01:18] <mooch> Enter text here...hello has anyone seen vidd?
[03:52] <privet_> in the networkmanager applet: how do I make it see my mobile phone as "broadband connection"?
[03:52] <privet_> *mobile broadband
[06:06] <nintendork32> what version of xubutnu do you recommend
[06:06] <nintendork32> i heard ibex isnt that stable
[06:06] <nintendork32> intrepid ibex*
[06:10] <nintendork32> i also need help chosing which version
[06:11] <nintendork32> choosing
[06:11] <nintendork32> its a athlon
[06:11] <nintendork32> i want 64-bit i believe
[07:05] <nintendork32> i need help
[07:06] <nintendork32> on the alternate installation cd is it the cd ONLY that requires 64MB of ram or the install afterwards too?
[17:06] <nat2610> Hey, I lost my panels and don't know how to get them back on xfce ... I went into xfce setting manager -> panel but nothing appear is it normal ?
[17:06] <vidd> nat2610, open a terminal and type xfce4-panels
[17:07] <vidd> xfce4-panel (no trailing "s")
[17:08] <nat2610> vidd, cool it's back
[17:08] <nat2610> do I have to do something else now ? or at the next boot it will be still there ?
[17:09] <vidd> make sure you save your session when you exit
[17:09] <vidd> or, remove all your saved sessions =]
[17:09]  * vidd hates the "save session" being auto selected
[17:10] <nat2610> where do you save your session
[17:10] <nat2610> ?
[17:10]  * vidd doesnt
[17:10] <nat2610> because I just closed the term even if I run xfce4-panel & it still close the process if I close the termnial
[17:11] <dcolish> nat2610: run it like this: xfce4-panel > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[17:12] <nat2610> dcolish, sweet
[17:14] <nat2610> cool it's working well now ... I restarted ... and the panel where still their thanks for your help
[17:14] <nat2610> s/their/there
[17:15] <dcolish> not a problem
[17:52] <nintendork32> is there a i636 version of ubuntu?
[17:52] <nintendork32> xubuntu*
[18:06] <dcolish> i636 is i386
[19:29] <nintendork32> ok, i am trying to install xubuntu on a system, GRUB or LILO won't install, should i select the option continue without bootloader?
[19:31] <vidd> nintendork32, no
[19:31] <vidd> why does it not install grub?
[19:31] <TheSheep> .oO( antivirus protection of boot sector in BIOS? )
[19:32] <nintendork32> vidd: it says there is an error
[19:32] <vidd> what does the error say?
[19:32] <nintendork32> idk
[19:32] <nintendork32> brb let me see
[19:34] <nintendork32> okay, it says GRUB could not install to /target/, without the GRUB bootloader the system will not boot
[19:35] <nintendork32> vidd:^^
[19:36] <nintendork32> vidd LILO has error code -1
[19:36] <vidd> nintendork32, how much hd space ya got? and what type of installer are you using??
[19:36] <nintendork32> vidd: i think maybe 20GB and using alternate
[19:37] <vidd> did you manually configure partitions, use the entire drive, or make room?
[19:37] <nintendork32> i did the "use entire disk space"
[19:38] <vidd> ok...how much room was on that disk space?
[19:38] <l_r> Questio for experts: do you know whether xUbuntu, once installed on hardisk, preserves the automatic hardware configuration? that is, does the livecd behaviour remain unchanged after it's installed on hd?
[19:38] <nintendork32> vidd: 20GB
[19:39] <nintendork32> ill also ask on #grub
[19:39] <vidd> l_r, no
[19:39] <vidd> l_r, you want the alt cd if you need to pass configurations to your kernel
[19:39] <vidd> nintendork32, go back to the partitions....
[19:40] <vidd> i want to know what your partition table looks like
[19:40] <nintendork32> let me ask on grub first
[19:40] <nintendork32> brb
[19:41] <vidd> fine...i wont help
[19:41] <nintendork32> ok what tables should i have
[19:41] <vidd> they wont be able to either
[19:41] <nintendork32> O..o
[19:41] <nintendork32> come on,,,,
[19:41] <vidd> the issue is a "cant write" error...noty a grub configuration error
[19:41] <nintendork32> ok what should i do?
[19:42] <nintendork32> what should the table look like?
[19:42] <vidd> tell it to not continue so you get knocked into the menu
[19:42] <nintendork32> ok im already there
[19:42] <vidd> go to the "partitioning" section
[19:42] <nintendork32> ok
[19:42] <vidd> click the "manual"
[19:43] <nintendork32> ok
[19:43] <vidd> tell me waht partitions are here and how big they are
[19:43] <nintendork32> ok brb
[19:45] <nintendork32> ok it has sda1 as ext3
[19:45] <nintendork32> it has sda2 as swap
[19:45] <nintendork32> oh sda1 is logical
[19:45]  * vidd notices that no sizes were mentiond]
[19:45] <nintendork32> oh
[19:45] <nintendork32> brb
[19:46] <nintendork32> sda1 is 19.7GB
[19:47] <vidd> does it have the -b on that line?
[19:47] <nintendork32> uhm how would it look?
[19:47] <nintendork32> 19.7GB -b?
[19:48] <vidd> something like that....i dont have that screen up myself
[19:49] <nintendork32> 19.7GB B F ext3
[19:49] <nintendork32> thats how it looks
[19:49] <vidd> so it does have the -b option
[19:49] <vidd> good
[19:49] <vidd> how large is swap?
[19:49] <nintendork32> the rest of 20AGB
[19:49] <nintendork32> 20GB*
[19:50] <nintendork32> which is about 325GB
[19:50] <nintendork32> 325MB*
[19:50] <vidd> HOW LARGE IS SWAP according to the partitioner?
[19:50] <vidd> this isnt rocket science!
[19:50] <nintendork32> about 325MB brb let me see the exact
[19:51] <nintendork32> 370.1MB
[19:52] <vidd> what kind of system are you installing on? (hp, compaq, emachine, gateway) and how old is the bios?
[19:52] <nintendork32> a old windows ME compaq
[19:52] <vidd> ok.....
[19:52] <nintendork32> with 125MB of ram
[19:52] <vidd> you have a setting in the bios for "antivirus"
[19:53] <vidd> you need to disable it
[19:53] <nintendork32> idk how?
[19:53] <vidd> basically, it is protecting the Master Boot Record
[19:53] <nintendork32> so go to the setup?
[19:53] <vidd> you restart the machine and enter the bios
[19:53] <nintendork32> ok
[19:54] <vidd> find the setting in there that says something along the line of "protect MBR" or "prevent overwriting" or some such stuff
[19:55] <vidd> 'round the time of Win ME was when boot-sector viruses were prevelant
[19:55] <vidd> compaq, dell, and gateway added "dont remove M$" code into the bioses of most of thier machines
[19:56] <nintendork32> ok
[19:56] <vidd> unfortunantly, you will have to re-do your install
[19:57] <vidd> you *MIGHT* be able to get back to the install menu and skip ahead to the "install bootloader" section....but dont hold your breath =]
[19:58] <nintendork32> i cant find the section
[19:59] <nintendork32> what category would it be?
[19:59] <nintendork32> security just has something to set up a password
[19:59] <openstep> hi
[19:59] <nintendork32> hi opensteb
[19:59] <nintendork32> openstep*
[19:59] <nintendork32> vidd: any ideas?
[20:00] <openstep> are you devs here?
[20:00] <openstep> I would need some help with xfce
[20:00] <nintendork32> i can code some, but this isnt the channel for it
[20:00] <vidd> openstep, what help?
[20:01] <openstep> Well I am about to deploy an LTSP setup in a school and would like to
[20:01] <openstep> use XFCE as desktop.
[20:01] <openstep> What I would like to do is to make a unified setup for all users, so
[20:01] <openstep> when they mess it up at the next login they get it back the default
[20:01] <openstep> one.
[20:01] <openstep> I looked around the
[20:01] <openstep> http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session#xfsm-kiosk-mode,
[20:01] <openstep> but the is not enough.
[20:01] <vidd> nintendork32, i would recomend googling the bios of the system for the settings.....there are so many
[20:01] <nintendork32> my computer model?
[20:01] <vidd> nintendork32, yes
[20:03] <vidd> openstep, the entire point of a ltsp set-up is so that your desktop does NOT get overwritten on logout
[20:03]  * nintendork32 looks for "presario"
[20:03] <vidd> nintendork32, presario-what?
[20:03] <nintendork32> speacial edition, my model
[20:04] <openstep> I am aware of it
[20:04] <openstep> but still that is what I need
[20:05] <openstep> like a kiosk
[20:05] <vidd> openstep,  i would not be the one to ask =[
[20:08] <openstep> thanks :)
[20:08] <openstep> see you
[20:09]  * nintendork32 cant find anything
[20:09] <vidd> nintendork32, what does it say the bios is?
[20:10] <vidd> or, what model is your compaq?
[20:10] <nintendork32> it just has the compaq logo and i started pressing all of the f4's then the setup came up\
[20:10] <nintendork32> presario speacial edition
[20:11] <vidd> there should be a modle number.....
[20:11] <vidd> is this a laptop or a desktop?
[20:11] <nintendork32> or you mean techy name lik Q-6G4J7H6
[20:11] <nintendork32> desktop
[20:11] <vidd> yeah...the modle #
[20:11] <nintendork32> ok
[20:11] <nintendork32> brb
[20:13] <nintendork32> 470004-759 US
[20:14] <nintendork32> 7000 series
[20:15] <vidd> please bare with me.......
[20:17] <nintendork32> ?
[20:17] <nintendork32> what?
[20:17] <vidd> ok....what bios options do you have?
[20:17]  * nintendork32 sighs
[20:17] <nintendork32> idk
[20:17] <nintendork32> this is getting tiring
[20:17] <nintendork32> that computer is in the basement, this one is upstairs....
[20:18]  * nintendork32 runs down the stairs
[20:18] <vidd> why not have them side-by-side?
[20:19] <nintendork32> i have Main, storage, security, advanced
[20:19] <nintendork32> security just has passwords though
[20:19] <nintendork32> asks to set one
[20:19] <vidd> advanced....
[20:20] <nintendork32> ok
[20:22] <nintendork32> pci, bus, device stuff
[20:22] <nintendork32> and this safe boot and power thing
[20:22] <vidd> safe boot needs to be off
[20:22] <nintendork32> ok
[20:24] <nintendork32> actually that says "Power on self test"
[20:24] <nintendork32> forgot them
[20:24] <nintendork32> and some power loss thing
[20:25] <vidd> no...thats not is
[20:26] <nintendork32> so what else should i choose?
[20:27] <vidd> one of these pages has something about "boot security" or "hard drive security" or "antivirus" or something like that
[20:30] <vidd> i havent had one of these systems in forever...so i dont know exactly where in the bios it is, or what the exact verbage is
[20:31] <vidd> but there is some kind of hard drive "security" which wont let anything write to the boot secter....which is where grub needs to be
[20:33] <nintendork32> there isnt ANYTHING about it
[20:34] <nintendork32> i looked
[20:34] <nintendork32> think i should try GRUB again?
[20:35] <vidd> you would need to redo the entire install again
[20:35] <vidd> try doing the cli-only install
[20:35] <vidd> (only because its faster)
[20:36] <vidd> you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop once it successfully boots
[20:37] <nintendork32> screw it
[20:37] <nintendork32> i give up
[20:38] <vidd> nintendork32, the issue is one of 2 things.....
[20:38] <nintendork32> what?
[20:38] <vidd> based on the age of the machine, i would suspect that the bios has some "write protect" setting.....
[20:38] <vidd> the other is a damaged or full HD
[20:39] <nintendork32> i bet damage
[20:39] <vidd> unfortunantly, i cant find the security setting
[20:39] <nintendork32> hard drive has been messed up
[20:39] <vidd> nintendork32, did windows work?
[20:39] <nintendork32> got the bsod
[20:39] <nintendork32> was on the internet with NOTHING attached
[20:39] <vidd> hrm...then perhaps, you should low-lvl format it
[20:40] <nintendork32> before
[20:40] <nintendork32> no wifi card even
[20:40] <nintendork32> its all messed up
[20:40] <nintendork32> ill probably grab a new hdd
[20:41] <vidd> if a new HDD installs without issue, then it was a bad hd....
[20:41] <vidd> what you can try....
[20:41] <vidd> set up the partitioning as follows:
[20:42] <vidd> delete are partitions
[20:42] <nintendork32> nah
[20:42] <nintendork32> i give up
[20:51] <Mark__1> I want a xinitrc file
[20:52] <Mark__1> Anyone know where I can find one I haven't hacked to pieces?
[20:53] <Mark__1> And DON'T accuse me of flooding or spamming
[20:53] <Mark__1> I'm just asking a simple question
[20:54] <Mark__1> #>:o
[20:54] <vidd> Mark__1, the easiest way to get a "fresh" on is to simply delete the one you have....a new once should get written for you when you log in again
[20:55] <Mark__1> The one in /etc/etc and the one in my home folder?
[20:55] <vidd> Mark__1, you hacked up the one in /etc?
[20:55] <Mark__1> Yeah :(
[20:55] <Mark__1> I was trying to get lxde to run from slim :(
[20:55] <vidd> ok...that makes it slightly more difficult....
[20:56] <Mark__1> Oh dear :(
[20:56] <vidd> only slightly....=]
[20:56] <Mark__1> Phew
[20:56] <vidd> first, remove both files.....
[20:56] <Mark__1> Okay. Lemme do that now
[20:56] <vidd> then kill slim
[20:57] <vidd> then sudo apt-get remove --purge slim && sudo apt-get install slim
[20:57] <vidd> however....i personally recommend just using gdm with lxde
[20:59] <vidd> if you autoremove --purge xorg, then you can apt-get install lxde, reboot, and enjoy
[20:59] <vidd> a severly hacked-down lxde is in the default repos
[20:59] <Mark__1> I need to log out of the session first, don't I ;)
[21:00] <vidd> you will....but let me give you all the info you need first
[21:00] <Mark__1> Isn't xorg the display manager?
[21:00] <Mark__1> K
[21:00] <vidd> will you be trashing all your xorg and doing the default *buntu lxde?
[21:00] <vidd> no...xorg is what the manager runs on
[21:01] <Mark__1> I'd like to keep everything I have but be able to log into an lxde session with slim
[21:01] <vidd> =] its a level or two below the manager
[21:01] <Mark__1> GDM just seems a bit heavy for it
[21:02] <vidd> then just log out, kill slim, and from terminal run "sudo apt-get remove --purge slim && sudo apt-get install slim"
[21:02] <Mark__1> K
[21:02] <vidd> *from tty*
[21:02] <Mark__1> See you later
[21:02] <vidd> please keep one thing in mind....
[21:02] <Mark__1> Yes?
[21:03] <vidd> you MUST have HAL installed in order for the keyboard and mouse to work
[21:03] <Mark__1> I do
[21:03] <vidd> also, you will need to edit your slim.conf file
[21:03] <Mark__1> Can we talk about that when I get back?
[21:04] <vidd> by defualt, alot of your PATH's are missing
[21:04] <vidd> i want to make sure you GET back =]
[21:04] <Mark__1> :)
[21:04] <Mark__1> So what do I need to put in slim.conf?
[21:04] <vidd> we can discuss that later.....
[21:05] <vidd> but for now.....
[21:05] <vidd> you will want to open stuff via the terminal....
[21:05] <Mark__1> Yeah
[21:05] <Mark__1> I hope the terminal remembers all this
[21:05] <vidd> so this way, you will get "/sbin/blah, blah, blah, is not in your PATH.....instead of the app just not opening
[21:06] <vidd> if you get something like that, then add the full path (like /sbin/xchat)
[21:06] <vidd> to launch the app
[21:07] <vidd> =]
[21:07] <Mark__1> Okay
[21:07] <vidd> simple stuff.....
[21:07] <vidd> see ya on the flip-side
[21:07] <vidd> =]
[21:07] <Mark__1> Bye for now
[21:09] <R1cochet> is there a way to create my own "user interface theme"?
[21:12] <Mark__1> I just remembered. I'm not using slim right now so I don't need to log out
[21:15] <Mark__1> Drat. The logs end at 9:01pm
[21:19] <Mark__1> Oh well. Here goes
[21:36] <R1cochet> is there a way to create my own "user interface" theme?
[21:36] <vidd> R1cochet, yes...there is
[21:43] <R1cochet> thank you vidd
[21:43] <R1cochet> how would i go about it?
[21:43] <vidd> no idea
[21:43] <R1cochet> £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ cool thank you
[21:44] <vidd> but in linux EVERYTHING is customizable
[21:45] <R1cochet> and stable :)
[22:31] <medfly> hey!
[22:31] <medfly> i have xubuntu 8.04 on my computer... i'm missing /sbin/init so it boots me into busybox... can anyone be kind and tel me what that file should contain so i will add that (somehow) ?
[22:33] <TheSheep> medfly: it boots into busybox because it fails to mount your hard disk as /
[22:33] <medfly> oh...
[22:33] <TheSheep> medfly: run 'mount' to see that it's not mounted
[22:33] <TheSheep> medfly: run 'dmesg' to see why
[22:34] <medfly> okay.. hmm...
[22:35] <medfly> well, i don't see anything special on dmegs, but it its not mounted.
[22:41] <TheSheep> is there anything special about this install?
[22:41] <TheSheep> did you for example install it on a different box, and replace the hdd?
[22:41] <medfly> well, it worked before
[22:41] <medfly> and... i uninstalled a bunch of stuff, that may have been a bad idea to uninstall...
[22:41] <TheSheep> before what exactly?
[22:42] <TheSheep> ah
[22:42] <medfly> a few hours later it had some trouble, so i restarted it, and it just went to busybox.
[22:42] <TheSheep> you can try pressing esc at boot and trying an older kernel
[22:42] <medfly> oh, i did try that, but it had the same outcome.
[22:43] <medfly> it does say something about /sbin/init. i told it not to be quiet and tell me about its troubles ;)
[22:43] <TheSheep> then I guess you have to boot it from cd, mount your / partition, chroot into it and install the missing package
[22:43] <medfly> oh...
[22:44] <TheSheep> wait
[22:44] <TheSheep> maybe you will be able to just mount /
[22:44] <TheSheep> from busybox
[22:45] <medfly> oh... well, i tried, but i only have console on /dev
[22:46] <medfly> haha. i got what i thought is an empty cd to burn onto, and it has xubuntu on it!
[22:46]  * medfly tries that :)
[22:55] <medfly> that was a pleasant surprise, but it didn't work.
[22:55] <medfly> getting the package
[22:56] <medfly> i am going to just try to install it again :)
[23:35] <retour> How to enter mode where I can manually enter type of monitor and max refresh rate etc?


[00:37] <pink_> Hello
[00:38] <pink_> may I ask a question? How can I open/launch a program (like firefox) via ssh? I'd like the program runs on the server (lubuntu on the server, putty on windows)
[00:40] <juan_144> on command line?
[00:40] <juan_144> have you tried firefox
[00:40] <juan_144> ?
[00:42] <pink_> yes on command line. If i send via ssh: firefox (or nohup firefox) it does not start on the server (neither in the client obviusly)
[00:42] <pink_> I tried this: http://superuser.com/questions/326206/starting-a-program-on-the-desktop-from-ssh-in-ubuntu but does not work
[00:42] <juan_144> what runlevel has the server?
[00:43] <pink_> root
[00:43] <pink_> (if I understand what runlevel is, I'm newbee)
[00:44] <juan_144> runlevel=run mode
[00:44] <juan_144> single user
[00:44] <juan_144> text mode
[00:44] <juan_144> graphical mode
[00:44] <juan_144> there are a total of 6
[00:45] <juan_144> 0 halt the system
[00:45] <juan_144> 1
[00:45] <juan_144> single user
[00:45] <juan_144> 2 I dont remember
[00:45] <juan_144> 3 is multiuser text mode
[00:45] <juan_144> 4 is unuser
[00:45] <juan_144> and 5 s graphical mode
[00:46] <juan_144> 6 restart the system
[00:47] <pink_> I really dont know, the default ones I suppose (just downloaded the iso and flashed over usb)
[00:47] <juan_144> what iso?
[00:48] <pink_> runlevel n° 2
[00:48] <pink_>  * 2 Full multi-user mode (Default)
[00:48] <pink_> just checked via ssh
[00:48] <juan_144> OK, Firefox will not run on that mode
[00:49] <juan_144> It needs a graphical server
[00:50] <pink_> you mean that will not run from ssh? (because If I start firefox or another program with a GUI, directly from the server, it works)
[00:51] <juan_144> then you are not running on runlevel 2 on the server
[00:52] <juan_144> and if you call firefox from CLI you will get stuck on it until firefox closes
[00:54] <pink_> ok thanks
[07:17] <deckard_> hello. Would someone please tell me the command to install Lubuntu?
[11:20] <Johnathon> Hello all, I seem to have a problem after installing Lubuntu from the alternate installer, it installs fine, but when I boot up it gets to a blank screen with the cursor in the middle then looping to the moniter saying out of range
[11:48] <Johnathon> Hello?
[11:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Hello
[11:51] <Johnathon> Would you be able to help with "I seem to have a problem after installing Lubuntu from the alternate installer, it installs fine, but when I boot up it gets to a blank screen with the cursor in the middle then looping to the moniter saying out of range"
[11:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, I'd start by saying "Is there a reason you need to install from the alternate install image?"
[11:57] <Johnathon> It would hang on install not showing anything no matter what I did so someone told me to install it from the alternate iso.
[11:58] <SonikkuAmerica> What about the mini.iso?
[11:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !min
[11:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !mini
[11:58] <SonikkuAmerica> One sec...
[11:58] <Johnathon> sure
[11:59] <Johnathon> But I can't use an online based one since the computer I'm installing it on doesn't have internet
[12:06] <SonikkuAmerica> OK yeah, what about the mini.iso?
[12:06] <Johnathon> I cant install it since the computer doesnt have access to internet
[12:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Now that could be a problem.
[12:07] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, what's the targeet hardware?
[12:08] <SonikkuAmerica> *target
[12:08] <Johnathon> Not sure of gfx but when I boot it into puppy it says it loaded vesa the rest are 30GB HDD 2.6Ghz Processor (Pentium I think), 256 MB of RAM.
[12:09] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, that should be plenty of space to install Lubuntu... perhaps your installer image was corrupted?
[12:09] <Johnathon> Tried it in a VM and it works fine
[12:10] <Johnathon> It is just this computer every distro seems to freak up on, It installs fine, but when it boots the moniter compains about being out of range
[12:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Monitor specs? Graphics card? If you can get Puppy to work, run [ lspci ] for that
[12:12] <Johnathon> I don't know the gfx card type, I know the moniters model number.
[12:12] <Johnathon> The OS installed fine, but I can't do anything since it is out of range
[12:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Johnathon: Can you drop to a tty? (press Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[12:13] <Johnathon> No
[12:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Did you try with a LiveCD set to nomodeset?
[12:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !nomodeset
[12:15] <Johnathon> Yes, it ended with the same result execpt it refused to boot I left it for like 5 hours and no desktop what so ever
[12:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, the last thing I can think of is "Did you use the correct install media for your architecture?
[12:16] <SonikkuAmerica> " and that's usually detected.
[12:16] <Johnathon> Yes, but
[12:16] <Johnathon> Progress
[12:16] <Johnathon> After flipping between out of range and the cursor it got to command line via CTRL ALT F1
[12:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Johnathon: Oh it did. Now you can [ lspci ] and give more specs.
[12:17] <Johnathon> A lot piled up on the screen is there anyway to scroll p?
[12:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Not in a tty. I need the "Graphics Controller" line.
[12:19] <Johnathon> Mulltimeadia video controller is the closest it has
[12:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Try [ lspci | less ] then. (That is a straight slash (Shift+\))
[12:21] <Johnathon> Nothing I can see with that. VGA compatible cotroller is the only other thing that seems to be gfx related
[12:22] <SonikkuAmerica> And what does that line read? [ lspci | grep VGA ]
[12:24] <Johnathon> VGA compatible controller: silicon integrated systems [SiS] 65xM650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[12:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Then this page is for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Sis
[12:27] <Johnathon> Thanks, I'll go do that now and report back if anything is still wrong or I don't understand part of it :)
[12:28] <SonikkuAmerica> All right. I have to go now but I'll be back in about 2 hrs
[12:28] <Johnathon> Should be still awake
[14:26] <LucreCarot> I have a problem with de update and upgrade, the console said:
[14:26] <SonikkuAmerica> WAIT! Use pastebin
[14:26] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin
[14:26] <LucreCarot>  lucrecarot@lucrecarot-HP-Mini-210-VT:~$ sudo apt-get -f install [sudo] password for lucrecarot: Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho Creando árbol de dependencias Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho 0 actualizados, 0 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 19 no actualizados. 5 no instalados del todo o eliminados. Se utilizarán 0 B de espacio de disco adicional después de esta operación. Configurando linux-image-3.8.0-26-ge
[14:28] <SonikkuAmerica> gzip: stdout: No space left on device <<< This is the important part of it all.
[14:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Are you using LVM?
[14:29] <LucreCarot> whats is LVM?
[14:29] <LucreCarot> the computer have a lot of space
[14:30] <LucreCarot> not I not using LVM
[14:30] <LucreCarot> I had to install this?
[14:31] <xnox> LucreCarot: what does: $ sudo lvs
[14:31] <xnox> says?
[14:32] <LucreCarot>  LV     VG      Attr     LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Move Log Copy%  Convert   root   lubuntu -wi-ao-- 463,48g                                              swap_1 lubuntu -wi-ao--   1,99g
[14:33] <LucreCarot> LV     VG      Attr     LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Move Log Copy%  Convert
[14:33] <LucreCarot> root   lubuntu -wi-ao-- 463,48g
[14:33] <LucreCarot> swap_1 lubuntu -wi-ao--   1,99g
[14:33] <SonikkuAmerica> LucreCarot: That only appears if LVM were installed.
[14:34] <LucreCarot> ok, I run this command and said this
[14:34] <LucreCarot> the lines I paste before
[14:35] <SonikkuAmerica> LucreCarot: You'll run into problems with normal updating and upgrading with LVM. You should reinstall without LVM if you don't really need it.
[14:35] <LucreCarot> How I reinstall without LVM?
[14:36] <LucreCarot> If I reinstall I will lost all my software and programmes?
[14:36] <SonikkuAmerica> LucreCarot: Pop your live image in and make sure "Use LVM with the new Lubuntu installation" is unchecked. And yes you will lose all that, but there is a way to preserve it:
[14:37] <SonikkuAmerica> LucreCarot: To preserve your programs, run [ dpkg --get-selections > installed-software ] and put installed-software on external media. To save your PPAs, copy /etc/apt/sources.list to external media.
[14:38] <LucreCarot> Ok, thank you very mucho, this is the unique solution? Its impossible desinstall the LVM or something like this?
[14:38] <SonikkuAmerica> LucreCarot: And then, to restore them, overwrite /etc/apt/sources.list on the new install with the old one, copy the "installed-software" file to your home dir and run [ dpkg --set-selections < installed-software ] in a terminal.
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> LucreCarot: Nope. That's the only solution to remove LVM (because that's how the partitioning system is set up.
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> )
[14:40] <LucreCarot> Ok! thank you very much for your help!!!! A final question, when is important used the LVM? o for what thing is important used the LVM?
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> LucreCarot: Logical volume management is good for RAID arrays (daisy-chained drives on data storage systems and the like)
[14:42] <LucreCarot> Ok
[14:42] <LucreCarot> thanks a lot!!!!!!
[14:42] <LucreCarot> to reinstall all! jejejejeje
[15:40] <Johnathon> I've having a problem starting my Lubuntu, I installed from the alternate image since i was having difficulties loading the original ISO without the installer crashing, on start up I get a cursor in the middle of the screen flashing between that and the moniter being out of range, i can't use CTRL+ALT+f1-f6 without it permantly going to out of range
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> wb
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Did you try the steps mentioned on the Web page regarding SiS drivers?
[15:44] <Johnathon> It died, and went back to out of range before I could do it :/
[15:44] <SonikkuAmerica> It ... died? Did you have the thing plugged in?
[15:44] <Johnathon> Yes.
[15:45] <Johnathon> It just flipped back to out of range
[15:45] <Johnathon> If I got Puppy on it, would I be able to do the steps from there? Or does it have to be done this way
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Lubuntu is rather specific. I'm suprised the mini.iso wouldn't work. Either way, the installer didn't detect your wireless or wired connection?
[15:47] <Johnathon> It doesn't have internet access at the present moment. I don't know when it will be restored
[15:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Johnathon: Well... at this point, I'm outta ideas. I don't think installing any Ubuntu distro (except maybe Server) would work with your present configuration... you'd just need a new machine to begin with.
[15:52] <Johnathon> :/ Damn, thanks for all the help. I might as well go get a new computer. Thanks
[21:55] <canin> ""Linux for Workgroups": Linux 3.11's feature set now confirmed" Oh god Lubuntu for Workgroups, coming soon
[21:56] <bioterro1> I love the new release cycle, I can see Linux 95 during my lifetime
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> bioterro1: I can see Linux XP in my lifetime.


[03:30] <fallenour> when deploying gitlab on juju, what is the best method of modifying the yaml? juju configure?


[01:06] <JanC> PriceChild: at least Ubuntu adds  » alias rm='rm -i --preserve-root' «  to .bashrc by default now, so the classic version for that "joke" would hopefully cause no harm to newbies...
[01:08] <gnomefreak> rm -rf doesnt obey that alias iirc
[01:08] <gnomefreak> and to remove root dir you need -rf and sudo
[01:08] <PriceChild> JanC, people were caught out
[01:11] <JanC> it only works for "/", so if they say to do that on /home that guard wouldn't work indeed
[01:11]  * Hobbsee didn't know about -i --preserve-root
[01:12] <JanC> -i = interactive
[01:12] <JanC> --preserve-root forbids rm -rf on "/"
[01:13] <JanC> it's invented because of the common / path/to/ error I guess
[01:14] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[01:14] <Hobbsee> yeah
[01:16] <mneptok> werd
[01:16] <PriceChild> waddup mneptok
[01:17] <Hobbsee> oh noes, i'ts mneptok!
[01:21] <mneptok> si /me!!one!!
[01:21] <mneptok> back from All Hands nad a family visit
[01:22] <mneptok> and ready to stab customers in the "it works in Windows!"  She might get out a nightstick
[01:59] <mneptok> and hurt me a real, real bad. By the roadside in a ditch. It's got me under pressure.
[02:55] <LjL> i have BADKITTY on highlight, and indeed he looks like a troll... was giving "real but useless" answers and now, out of the blue, "what's the best media player?"
[02:56] <LjL> [03:55:57] <_ebirtaid> ljl whats with the floddbots
[02:56] <LjL> [03:56:07] [Whois] _ebirtaid is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(diat)
[02:56] <LjL> weird that someone with such a hostname would ask that, especially with an unregistered nickname
[03:42] <bigfuzzyjesus> when my ban be lifted
[03:42] <bigfuzzyjesus> will
[03:45] <mneptok> bigfuzzyjesus: judging by the fact that it's hardly your first offense, i'd guess it would be quite some time.
[03:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> mneptok, well that is what i have heard, and i keep waiting
[03:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> then i ask
[03:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> occasionally to see what happens
[03:46] <mneptok> bigfuzzyjesus: interesting strategy
[03:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> mneptok, yep
[03:47] <Hobbsee> doesnt' work, though
[03:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> not very successful either :-|
[03:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> exactly
[03:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> http://seifnet.no-ip.org:8080/screensecks.jpg
[03:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> shoot
[03:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> wrong channel
[03:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> sorry
[03:51] <mneptok> http://seifnet.no-ip.org:8080/del/numbers.txt
[03:51]  * mneptok sighs
[03:51] <mneptok> someday my generation will retire, and the entire Internet will become filk, World Of Warcraft ogre sex, and "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE."
[03:51] <Hobbsee> going to call them?
[04:03] <elkbuntu> mneptok, i dare you to call some of those numbers :Þ
[04:04] <mneptok> and scream "MMMMM88&&&&&& 'MMM88&&&," into the phone?
[04:05] <elkbuntu> mneptok, that interspersed with manic mutterings about a big fuzzy jesus
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> how does one scream an &?
[04:05] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, AMPERSAND AMPERSAND AMPERSAND
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> sounds like a lot of work
[04:06] <elkbuntu> it'd be worth it
[04:11] <mneptok> i picture it more as "MATE MATE MATE AND AND AND MATE MATE AND AND AND AND MATE MATE MATE"
[04:12] <mneptok> you know, the internal monologue of every 18 year old
[04:30] <Tm_T> aww
[04:58] <Myrtti> groo
[04:58] <Myrtti> gmorron
[05:15] <Tm_T> !touchpad is <alias> synaptics
[05:15] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Tm_T
[05:20] <Myrtti> Seveas: thank you
[05:23] <JanC> eh, many touchpads aren't synaptics  ;)
[05:24] <Tm_T> JanC: I know but as long as there's no other factoid made for it, it's better than nothing
[05:25] <JanC> actually, I have never seen one from synaptics
[05:25] <JanC> which is 0/3 touchpads used  ;)
[07:38] <Seek_Therapy> can i set up a proxy for irc konversation?
[07:38] <Myrtti> say, what?
[07:39] <Seek_Therapy> I'm new...sorry
[07:39] <Tm_T> Seek_Therapy: topic
[07:39] <Myrtti> proxy? konversation?
[07:40] <Seek_Therapy> is this illegal?
[07:40] <nalioth> Seek_Therapy: this is not a support channel   :)
[07:40] <Seek_Therapy> i know...but you guys would know this for sure
[07:41] <Tm_T> no, that doesn't mean we will give support here
[07:41] <Myrtti> /me sometimes hates the kde developers for their naming schemes
[07:41] <Tm_T> Myrtti: but it's Kool!
[07:41] <Myrtti> *hrmph*
[07:42] <Tm_T> Seek_Therapy: feel free to leave, and join some support channel ;)
[07:43] <Seek_Therapy> I hate that its so hard to learn programming....I have truely hand it to you guys...good job
[07:43] <Myrtti> hrmmm?
[07:43] <Myrtti> I'm confused
[07:43] <Seek_Therapy> I'm being serious
[07:43] <nalioth> Seek_Therapy: join #konversation (it should be more helpful for you)
[07:44] <Tm_T> Seek_Therapy: we don't code, we just sit on irc
[07:44] <Tm_T> (well some of us anyway)
[07:44] <Seek_Therapy> I was just noticing that you were chatting about it sorta
[07:44] <nalioth> Seek_Therapy: you've joined the administrative channel for #ubuntu
[07:44] <Seek_Therapy> I was just giving a compliment
[07:45] <Seek_Therapy> ok..I am leaving
[07:45] <Seek_Therapy> you would think a compliment every now and then , is deserved
[07:46] <Tm_T> it is, but we are not the right target ;)
[07:46] <Seek_Therapy> anyway, ok...bye
[09:46] <ubotu> magnetron called the ops in #ubuntu (shelly0815_11313)
[09:47] <Myrtti> should I take joins parts and quits off the ignore again...
[11:00] <Tm_T> Myrtti: never ignore
[11:03] <Myrtti> but the traffic is HUmongous
[11:03] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[11:03] <Tm_T> I know
[11:03] <Tm_T> but still
[11:03] <Tm_T> I even have double of traffic
[11:04] <Tm_T> 1022 -!- Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-ops
[11:04] <Tm_T> 1022 -!- Fujitsu is "William Grant"
[11:04] <Tm_T> etc
[11:06] <Tm_T> but I think I have been in IRC enough for today so see you some day later ->
[11:18] <ubotu> WaltzingAlong called the ops in #kubuntu (user_)
 is spamming #ubuntu
[11:52] <ikonia> not any more
[11:57] <Gary> no, he left in the end
[13:03] <no0tic> news on CC?
[13:03] <Pici> news? did something happen?
[13:04] <no0tic> Pici, no, I would like to know if there's an appointment
[13:04] <Mez> appointment to the CC?
[13:05] <no0tic> next meeting
[13:05] <Pici> Should be on the Fridge
[13:06] <no0tic> Pici, ok, so there isn't one yet
[13:06] <no0tic> Pici, I'll control fridge rss time to time
[14:00] <ubotu> gordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu (peppeniello)
[14:17] <no0tic> on -it we had a stupid attack from bots
[14:17] <no0tic> could anyone do anything?
[14:18] <Pici> Notify a staff member?
[14:19] <elkbuntu> there's actually someone listed with /stats p for once
[14:19] <Pici> wow
[14:19] <Pici> .
[14:20] <no0tic> Pici, notified :)
[14:20] <no0tic> Gannef
[14:20] <no0tic> elkbuntu, yes, very strange
[14:21] <no0tic> if you want.. http://pastebin.com/m529ee4e3
[14:21] <no0tic> those are their quits
[14:28] <elkbuntu> set a ban on *!570479d4@* for a start, it'll stop most of them if they try return
[14:30] <no0tic> +J 3,5 ?
[14:30] <elkbuntu> dunno, i dont speak +J
[14:30] <no0tic> (I think it's a good mean of normal user joins)
[14:30] <Seeker`> 5 users in 15 seconds?
[14:30] <no0tic> Seeker`, uhm.. I misunderstood :P
[14:31] <no0tic> Seeker`, but yes something similar :) we are not so crowded
[14:31] <Seeker`> I thought +J x.y allowed roughly y users in x*y seconds
[14:31] <Seeker`> !modes
[14:31] <ubotu> There are many different channel and user modes on Freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[14:32] <no0tic> Seeker`, yes, it is
[15:38] <snake> its too many time that i am banned tu ubuntu for a word i said and elkbuntu said to me the ban will be removed for 24 hours
[15:38] <snake> can someone please unban me
[15:38] <snake> thank you
[15:40] <PriceChild> snake, I'll take a look.
[15:40] <snake> PriceChild: thank you
[15:41] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (aluno)
[15:44] <PriceChild> snake, have you read the ubuntu irc guidelines?
[15:44] <LjL> PriceChild: hold on a second
[15:44] <PriceChild> LjL, hmm?
[15:45] <snake> PriceChild: i know what i have done
[15:45] <snake> it was my fault
[15:45] <snake> i said that before
[15:45] <PriceChild> snake, ok then please go and read the guidelines
[15:45] <PriceChild> !guidelines
[15:45] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:45] <snake> but this doesnt mean i have to stay banned for life
[15:47] <PriceChild> I never said, nor implied any such thing.
[15:48] <snake> PriceChild: ok i read the guideline
[15:49] <snake> i have always past good times to ubuntu so what i mean is that
[15:49] <PriceChild> snake, are there other users with access to your machine?
[15:49] <snake> PriceChild: no
[15:49] <snake> only me
[15:50] <LjL> snake, it would have been easier, at least for me, if you had joined with the "asaup" nickname
[15:50] <LjL> now you've made me wonder who i was looking at
[15:51] <Pici> I'm confused.
[15:51] <LjL> snake, yesterday i told you the following:
[15:51] <LjL> [Tue Nov 13 2007] [18:53:21] <LjL>      hm, asaup, you realize that responding to insults with insults is worse than insulting in the first place? channels have trolls. they're idiots. making you reach their level is what they want.
[15:51] <Pici> But dont mind me, I'm always confused.
[15:51] <LjL> [Tue Nov 13 2007] [18:57:36] <LjL>      also, asaup, changing your nickname and all the various identifying information doesn't testify in your favor - at all
[15:51] <LjL> then you went away
[15:52] <snake> LjL: sorry
[15:52] <snake> that is my registered
[15:52] <snake> nick
[15:52] <snake> i use this nick not here
[15:52] <snake> but konversation has remembered my nick
[15:52] <snake> its always me
[15:53] <LjL> snake, when banned people change their identifying information, we usually suspect (and with good reason) that they're trying to dodge the ban.
[15:53] <LjL> i'll make an exception and assume you aren't doing that
[15:53] <LjL> just please make sure you abide by the guidelines and everything in « /msg ubotu etiquette »
[15:54] <snake> LjL: no
[15:55] <snake> i do not want that
[15:55] <snake> plese take
[15:55] <snake> as much time
[15:55] <snake> as you want
[15:55] <LjL> want what?
[15:55] <snake> to consider if i am doing
[15:55] <snake> something wrong
[15:55] <snake> what i mean is that
[15:55] <snake> i will never
[15:56] <snake> wanted to do something out the rules
[15:56] <LjL> snake, i've considered, and i've decided that time will tell us if you deserve other bans. right now though, you are free to join.
[15:56] <snake> sorry for that
[15:56] <snake> you can see other logs if you want so please see any log with snake or asaup
[15:56] <snake> they are mine
[15:57] <snake> you will see that this is the first time
[15:57] <LjL> snake: remember, trolls should not be fed. if someone is trolling heavily, come here and tell us - don't insult them back
[15:57] <snake> from the beggining
[15:57] <LjL> snake: yup, i can see that. i'm confident it will be the only time too
[15:57] <LjL> so, join and enojy
[15:57] <snake> LjL: thanks
[15:57] <snake> :)
[15:57] <snake> thank you
[15:57] <snake> i really mean that
[15:58] <snake> because i have always passed a fantastic time
[15:58] <snake> here
[15:58] <snake> and never get out without someone helping me
[15:58] <LjL> another thing... =) it doesn't really matter very much here, but in #ubuntu, remember:
[15:58] <LjL> !enter
[15:58] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:58] <snake> yes
[15:59] <snake> thanks and if its a problem i can part from here
[15:59] <snake> do i have to do so ?? or i can stay here without problems
[15:59] <snake> he
[16:00] <Pici> We'd like if people who didnt have any business here didn't idle.
[16:01] <snake> Pici: ok than thank you and sorry for what happened. bye
[17:45] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Inuyasha32246 said: ubotu | what is the answer to life, the universe, and everything
[17:46] <Pici> taken care of.
[17:46] <Pici> Hopefully.
[19:01] <jdong> everyone's aware of the 403 on Samba updates, right?
[19:01] <jdong> in case people come into support channels asking
[19:01] <Pici> Yes.
[19:01] <jdong> good. all is well. :)
[19:07] <nalioth> 403 ?
[19:08] <Pici> Topic changed in #ubuntu
[19:08] <Pici> nalioth: The samba upgrade is broken, so they changed the permissions on the deb so that people wouldnt download it
[19:09] <jdong> nalioth: bug #163042
[19:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 163042 in samba "nmbd crashes after routine Dapper upgrade" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163042
[19:09] <nalioth> jdong: i see
[19:10] <nalioth> as it doesn't break the system, i have to wonder why we are making such a deal on it (this is not the first time a package has been held in such a manner)
[19:10] <jdong> nalioth: that's a relative term. If my system is a Samba server then it breaks everything about it
[19:11] <Pici> I've seen a large number of people with production systems not doing adequate upgrade testing.
[19:12] <nalioth> jdong: if i'm not mistaken, folks running a server shouldn't be affected until they reboot.  do samba server users think like windows users and reboot with each upgrade?
[19:13] <jdong> nalioth: AFAIK it's affected as soon as the Samba server is restarted
[19:13] <jdong> and Samba server admins better be doing whatever is necessary to effect a security update, when it is applied
[19:13] <Pici> Dont most packages restart their daemons as soon in the post-install steps?
[19:13] <jdong> yes
[19:14] <jdong> I don't have a Dapper box to test this out on (my Dapper server is actually a Samba PDC)
[19:14] <nalioth> jdong: so if it didn't install, there should be no postinstall script?
[19:14] <jdong> and if I applied this update, my home network will be completely knocked out
[19:14] <jdong> nalioth: assuming the user didn't get the faulty update, they are unaffected
[19:46] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, soundray said: ubotu, nickrud is a competent and helpful support volunteers on #ubuntu
[19:47] <jdong> !java
[19:47] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[19:47] <jdong> we should s/interpreter/runtime
[19:47] <jdong> and that factoid needs to be updated
[19:47] <Pici> !java =~ s/compiler/runtime/
[19:47] <ubotu> I'll remember that Pici
[19:47] <Pici> Hows that?
[19:47] <jdong> icedtea-java7-jre, sun-java6-jre for Gutsy, Feisty
[19:48] <jdong> java5 is old, and I don't think anyone comes here for Edgy support anymore either
[19:49] <jdong> idn how exactly to word it
[20:01] <ubotu> In ubotu, recon said: !recon is <reply> It's short for reconnect. not for reconnaissance, or a misspelling of "reckon".
[20:05] <PriceChild> Since when?
[20:05] <PriceChild> And haha at latest xkcd.... tis a good end :)
[20:11] <Gary> PriceChild, linky?
[20:11] <PriceChild> Gary, xkcd.org
[20:12] <Mez> xkcd RULES
[20:12] <Mez> how can you not have heard of it Mr. Kearley ?
[20:13] <Gary> I have, but I am eating dinner and was being very very lazy
[20:13] <Gary> :p
[20:14] <Pici> too lazy to type 8 characters?
[20:14] <Gary> and open safari, etc
[20:14] <Gary> :p
[20:14] <Gary> I typed pr{tab}linky?  that was easier :p
[20:14] <Gary> thanks PriceChild
[20:15] <PriceChild> Gary, wait... i hope you read the entire 5 part series?
[20:15] <PriceChild> Gary, not just the front page?
[20:15] <Gary> oops
[20:15] <PriceChild> gah
[20:15] <Seeker`> you can just type "xkcd" into firefox's address bar and it takes you to tghe front page
[20:18] <ompaul> Tm_T, you about?
[20:19] <Gary> PriceChild, ahhh, thats better
[20:19] <Gary> very funny
[20:19] <PriceChild> :)
[20:19] <PriceChild> now it all makes sense
[20:19] <Gary> yay
[21:37] <no0tic> searching ubotu via 'search locale' gives me two results but no one is a factoid, I'm missing something?
[21:37] <no0tic> whatis # factoid works with ubotu?
[21:41] <PriceChild> are you mistaking search with find?
[21:42] <no0tic> no, I found :) it works in query as in a channel
[21:42] <no0tic> PriceChild, thanks
[22:04] <jussi01> can someone explain this to me? [23:46] *** The channel topic is "This is the Official blackhole of Ubuntu chatter || Be nice when playing with the bots! || :inca::porc::love::dito: || Please respect the CoC"
[22:04] <PriceChild> haha
[22:04] <PriceChild> ping jdong
[22:04] <jdong> oui?
[22:04] <jussi01> jdong: ^
[22:04] <PriceChild> jdong, look up 4 lines
[22:04] <jdong> I didn't do it!
[22:04] <gnomefreak> what channel?
[22:04] <jdong> 17:04 -!- Topic set by vorian [] [Tue Nov 13 20:56:21 2007]
[22:04] <PriceChild> jussi01, which bit?
[22:05] <PriceChild> jdong, yeah but he's away
[22:05] <jdong> idn, vorian was having fun I guess :)
[22:05] <jussi01> :inca::porc::love::dito:
[22:05] <jussi01> that bit PriceChild
[22:07] <jdong> *shrugs* I guess I'm to memes what I am to urban slang, and pop culture....
[22:08] <PriceChild> jussi01, we had a spammer some time ago....
[22:11] <jussi01> PriceChild: ahhh..
[22:27] <ubotu> bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu (us-robotics)
[22:53] <PriceChild> Really don't like the look of GNine
[22:54] <jdong> me neither
[22:54] <jdong> he's not the worst, but tends to feel the most flaky as far as spontaneously becoming a troll is concerned
[22:55] <PriceChild> jdong, see his comments about being banned in -offtopic etc. earlier/
[22:55] <jdong> PriceChild: and the identical comments from 2 weeks ago, and identical ones from a month ago when he joined this channel for the first time?
[22:55] <jdong> yeah :)
[22:55] <PriceChild> haha
[22:58] <ubotu> In ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on updates packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report
[22:59] <ubotu> In ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on updates packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/163116
[22:59] <jdong> err... no thanks?
[22:59] <jdong> "As a workaraund you can disable security updates."
[23:00] <ubotu> In ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on the updated packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/163116
[23:00] <PriceChild> I'm messaging him
[23:00] <mc44> yeah should be "As a permanent fix disable security updates" silly
[23:01] <jdong> A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:01] <jdong> wow, that's not any shorter
[23:01] <jdong> well I give up.
[23:02] <jpatrick> PriceChild: he's a tough guy
[23:03] <PriceChild> jpatrick, hmm?
[23:03] <jpatrick> he's well known in #ubuntu-es
[23:03] <PriceChild> ah yes
[23:04] <PriceChild> Have there been many people in #ubuntu asking about this?
[23:04] <crdlb> only every 30 seconds or so
[23:05] <PriceChild> !sambabug is <reply> A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:05] <ubotu> I'll remember that, PriceChild
[23:05] <PriceChild> crdlb, ^
[23:05] <PriceChild> jdong, grr just lastlog'ed "samba" in #ubuntu and the result seemed to imply someone was suggesting to one user to turn off security updates...
[23:06] <PriceChild> wow first time i've used wget in ages... and its not measuring speed in Kb/s
[23:06] <jdong> PriceChild: I pounced on a similar statement on the forums.
[23:06] <PriceChild> *smiles inside*
[23:18] <Mez> man making a whole CMS from scratch is tiring
[23:49] <PriceChild> People never cease to amaze...
[23:49] <PriceChild> that fool of a snuxoll in -offtopic just now


 is version guadalinex
[14:27] <guntbert> bazhang: sadly jorgiito will find that #guadalinex has only two users ...
[14:27] <bazhang> guntbert, most are busy in #ubuntu I bet
[14:29] <guntbert> bazhang: :) - wonder if it is sensible to create a factoid - but knowing that they don't read !es - guess not
[14:29] <bazhang> guntbert, true :)
[14:32] <bazhang> woanerges is being less than forthcoming btw
[14:33] <bazhang> no one said they don't know what ati is, nor did anyone say #ubuntu is the support channel for lucid
[14:45] <arand> He was pointed to #ubuntu after asking in #ubuntu-devel, maybe he misunderstood.
[14:45] <arand> He did ask in #ubuntu+1 as well and did not get sent back there as claimed.
[14:46] <bazhang> he seems not to understand that most folks are in multiple channels
[14:56] <guntbert> about the guadalinex people: http://www.guadalinex.org/ayuda doesn't mention irc - so maybe it would be clever to have that weblink ready for those who seek help and don't want simple chatter
[16:53] <m4v> and probably ask #guadalinex's founder to mention a "join #ubuntu-es for extra support" in the topic
[16:54] <m4v> though I don't really know anymore which channel guadalinex will use as default from now on
[22:38] <arand> ikonia: Any progress on !pae, you prefer to wait until wiki is complete?