[14:08] <John__> i don't have a steady internet connection at home
[14:08] <John__> my DSL times me out
[14:08] <John__> i live in the middle of nowhere, however my school is in the middle of town
[14:08] <younes> Jhon__ ohh then maybe it's not better to run it at home but to install it on the HD
[14:08] <John__> it has great internet
[14:09] <John__> is that possible to do so without an administrator account?
[14:09] <younes> Yes
[14:09] <younes> Just boot into the bios
[14:09] <designbybeck> Very Odd Problem this morning!... I shutdown Ubuntu 13.10 after work on Friday. I boot up this morning and can't get past the login screen. I type in my password, the screen goes blank and then comes back to the login. This happens with Guest as well.
[14:09] <John__> pendrivelinux requires admin'
[14:09] <younes> Why?
[14:09] <designbybeck> I tried going to a terminal and start/stop lightdm, but that didn't seem to help
[14:09] <designbybeck> I've restarted and shutdown twice..... Any suggestions!?
[14:09] <John__> I just have the ISO..
[14:09] <younes> designbybeck: Sorry Can't help you with that
[14:09] <designbybeck> This is the first time tanything tlike this has happened
[14:10] <younes> Jhon__ wait i'll give you a tut
[14:10] <younes> John__?
[14:10] <John__> class change :D
[14:10] <John__> brb
[14:11] <younes> Look here for a tut on how to install it on a external HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDM2LqFoHv4
[14:11] <younes> ohhh he is afk :|
[14:11] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip: ...might you be around?
[14:13] <younes> Guys i'm afk!
[14:15] <Quitey23312> Guys, I'm trying to download eclipse Kepler. I don't find it in the USC. If I download it in my browser, the download fails due to faulty internet connection.. Can I get a torrent/ppa?
[14:15] <Guest16334> Hi everyone, I've got a problem with Ubuntu 13.10 : after the installation, I've lost my wallpapers... I cannot change my default wallpaper nor the Unity's dock color...
[14:16] <tiblock> Hi. I tryed to upgrade from ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 and while rebooting i got this http://rghost.ru/51819776/image.png and nothing changing for about 1-2 hours. Do i need hard-reboot notebook or wait more?
[14:17] <younes> tiblock: Try to do a clean reinstall
[14:17] <younes> hi john__
[14:17] <tiblock> younes, so i can reboot it? Thank you.
[14:17] <John___> hey
[14:17] <younes> i found a tut for you on how to install ubuntu on a HD
[14:17] <younes> look here
[14:18] <younes> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDM2LqFoHv4
[14:18] <John___> no YT...
[14:18] <John___> any text tutorial
[14:18] <John___> ?
[14:18] <younes> sure wait a sec
[14:18] <John___> ill try a VPN in the mean time
[14:18] <Guest16334> All I got is a black wallpaper, cannot change anything about it ...
[14:18] <younes> John__ are you her?
[14:18] <younes> e
[14:18] <nearst> hello
[14:19] <younes> Guest16334: Try to download one
[14:19] <John___> lol
[14:19] <younes> John__
[14:19] <John___> im on an Xp machine now
[14:19] <younes> look herre http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/installing-ubuntu-on-an-external-hard-drive/
[14:19] <John___> send that to me again in one second
[14:20] <John___> im going to move to a windows 7 machine
[14:20] <younes> oki see you then
[14:20] <Guest16334> Hi Younes ( thanks ), I already tried but anything I tried worked !
[14:20] <designbybeck> So far I tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360572/cant-log-in-after-upgrade-ubuntu-13-10
[14:21] <designbybeck> tried removing .Xautohrity didn't seem to do anything
[14:21] <dubey> Hello
[14:22] <dubey> I am using 12.04 installed with  openvpn. I want to configure vpn client same as "redirect-gateway def1"  on windows
[14:22] <cfhowlett> dubey, greetings
[14:24] <designbybeck> Well dang that didn't work either
[14:24] <vklp> hello everyone, I'd closed the lid of the computer and when I just re-opened it, the screen was not locked, as it was normally supposed to be. I tested it by closing and opening the lid once again, and it was locked this time. what might have happened?
[14:24] <designbybeck> I tried this as well... still didn't work: sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults --show-manual-login true
[14:24] <John___> Alright..
[14:24] <John___> Back on a 7 machine.
[14:25] <younes> john___
[14:25] <John___> Yeppers.
[14:25] <younes> look here: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/10/23/how-to-install-ubuntu-13-10-on-an-external-hard-drive/
[14:25] <smmsadrnezh> I have elementary OS Luna 64-bit on my HP Pavilion dv6 laptop. I'm unable to change desktop wallpaper and create new keyboard language layout in system setting. It doesn't take effect.
[14:25] <John___> 10-4.
[14:25] <younes> roger, over
[14:25] <smmsadrnezh> Please help me.
[14:25] <juzemack> anyone know why there is a huge performance difference from 12.04 to 13.10 on virtual box??
[14:25] <designbybeck> Anyone have problems logining into Ubuntu 13.10? I type in my password it goes to blank and then goes back to the login
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !details|smmsadrnezh,
[14:26] <cfhowlett> juzemack, how much ram did you give the new box?  are you using 32 or 64 bit on the new box?
[14:26] <designbybeck> smmsadrnezh: also contact the elemntary OS IRC channel
[14:27] <juzemack> cfhowlett: I maxxed out my ram and it is the 64, that may be the issue?? my older 12.04 is 32
[14:27] <cfhowlett> smmsadrnezh, elementary OS?  Is that ubuntu?
[14:27] <John___> Okay... installation is asking for me to mount linux distro onto a disc... I obviously know how to do that but my question is will I need administrative access - which I do not have.
[14:27] <arunpyasi> guys, will Ubuntu 32 bit dual boot with windows 8?
[14:27] <smmsadrnezh> designbybeck: cfhowlett: elementary is based on ubuntu.
[14:27] <compdoc> juzemack, are any processes taking up a large amount of cpu time?
[14:28] <cfhowlett> smmsadrnezh, but it's NOT ubuntu so ... not supported here.  sorry.  pretty sure they have their own support channels.
[14:28] <juzemack> compdoc: not that I know of. As far as I am concerned it is running under same conditions my 12.04 was
[14:28] <Guest16334> Another thing : when there's not a window opened ( not reduced into the dock ) and I close one, I've got a little freeze ( when my Ubuntu has to load the desktop it freezes a little bit )..
[14:28] <younes> john___ Did you go in to the bios and booted from the iso or disk?
[14:28] <juzemack> im currently on the 12.04 version
[14:28] <designbybeck> correct smmsadrnezh but those guys know their setup inside and out and might can provide better insight...just a suggestion
[14:28] <juzemack> I was told I may have to run 'mate' along side VBox
[14:28] <cfhowlett> juzemack, 64 bit needs a different kernel than 32 bit and vbox can't always create it.
[14:28] <juzemack> cfhowlett: ok, I may have to reinstall under 32
[14:29] <John___> younes :  dont i have to burn that image to a disc or USB first?
[14:29] <juzemack> my laptop is 64 and was hopin it would utilize the hardware a bit better
[14:29] <John___> i just have the .iso on my external
[14:29] <John___> nothing has been done to it
[14:29] <younes> John__ you need to use a tool to kinda put it on the usb/disk because else it wont boot
[14:29] <cfhowlett> juzemack, ??? mate is a desktop environment ...
[14:29] <cfhowlett> juzemack, ask the experts: #vbox
[14:30] <juzemack> cfhowlett: sounds good, thanks for the info
[14:30] <younes> John___ google it i'm sure you'll find it type in: How to live boot ubuntu from usb
[14:30] <arunpyasi> guys, will Ubuntu 32 bit dual boot with windows 8?
[14:30] <John___> i need a tool that doesnt require administrative access
[14:30] <cfhowlett> juzemack, I've had better luck with 32 bit
[14:30] <cfhowlett> juzemack, for similar reasons, I'd recommend NOT using unity in a  vbox.  lubuntu/xubuntu run just fine
[14:30] <arunpyasi> guys, will Ubuntu 32 bit dual boot with windows 8 64 bit?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> arunpyasi, yes.  but
[14:31] <compdoc> juzemack, you can always just look to see if any processes taking up a large amount of cpu time
[14:31] <cfhowlett> 64 bit should run if your system is capable
[14:31] <younes> John___ they don't need it
[14:31] <juzemack> compdoc: when i look at processes on both machines they appear to be similar, although 13.10 64 is slightly heavier
[14:32] <juzemack> I think I will just reinstall with 32 and see what that does
[14:32] <cfhowlett> juzemack, best of luck.
[14:32] <juzemack> cfhowlett: thx for the help :)
[14:33] <compdoc> juzemack, cant use the ram if you go 32bit
[14:33] <compdoc> did you say you have 64G ram?
[14:33] <juzemack> heh no 8 gig ram on my laptop
[14:33] <compdoc> ah
[14:33] <ihre> Would it be possible to dd an entire system from a HDD to an USB stick?
[14:34] <compdoc> still, 32bit is limited to 4G
[14:34] <ihre> so that it would boot, forgot to mention
[14:34] <cfhowlett> ihre, ... in theory ... yes.  straight copy.  Now a BOOTABLE copy is a whole different question
[14:34] <younes> Ok guys i need to go cya
[14:34] <cfhowlett> :)
[14:36] <Ssshh> compdoc: 32 is 3TB, beyond 3TB a 32 bit arch cant handle
[14:37] <compdoc> Ssshh, its actualyl 4G, but the video card ram has to fit in there
[14:37] <Ssshh> when you format a "4TB" device you get less than 4TB
[14:37] <Ssshh> so 3TB way i see it
[14:39] <pankaj_> is there a way to have unity,lxde,xfce desktop in a system without clashing of applications?
[14:40] <Ssshh> yeah
[14:40] <John___> ok
[14:40] <pankaj_> wahts that
[14:40] <Ssshh> all 3 use GTK, with Unity being GTK3 based
[14:40] <Ssshh> since Unity is another GNOME shell
[14:40] <nivram> how to get world war 2001 to work
[14:41] <Ssshh> you should only need to set your GTK2/3 themes and you should be good to go
[14:41] <Ssshh> isntr LXDE switching to Qt actually?
[14:41] <pankaj_> i could not get your last line
[14:41] <dopsi> pankaj_ : yes install kdebase-workspace for kde desktop without kde apps (konqueror, etc...)
[14:42] <cfhowlett> pankaj_, yes, just install the desktop environments not the meta-packages; e.g. sudo apt-get install lxde NOT lubuntu-desktop
[14:42] <pankaj_> ok
[14:42] <pankaj_> and if i need to remove one of them completely?
[14:43] <john____> Got administrative access
[14:43] <john____> installing pendrivelinux to external now
[14:43] <pankaj_> eg. i will remove xubuntu-desktop for xfce ?
[14:43] <cfhowlett> pankaj_, sudo apt-get purge packanage-name
[14:43] <pankaj_> purge wil do what?
[14:43] <Munster> Hi
[14:44] <nearst> pankaj_, remove config file
[14:44] <Bray90820_> Can a live CD be used to upgrade ubuntu
[14:45] <nearst> Bray90820_, if ure chroot it
[14:45] <Bray90820_> Alright
[14:45] <Bray90820_> I'll just stick with the update manager
[14:45] <Bray90820_> seems quicker
[14:48] <Ssshh> Bray90820_: its as easy as mounting your partitions, typing chroot /your/directory /bin/bash and then upgrade from there
[14:48] <Ssshh> i would highly recommend learning how to :]
[14:50] <Bray90820_> i will be learning how in the next few weeks but right now it's quicker then downloading the iso and making a CD
[14:50] <Ssshh> Bray90820_: Aptitude will upgrade your running system itself once installed
[14:51] <Bray90820_> Right now i am just using the upgrade manager
[14:51] <Ssshh> because of Debians base you just need to issue a dist-upgrade and you can download updates and it'll auto upgrade basically
[14:51] <hans> apt-get can upgrade to.
[14:51] <Bray90820_> Yea
[14:51] <nearst> usually chroot is for recovery. upgrade and dist-upgrade will safe too
[14:52] <Ssshh> like nearst said, recovery
[14:52] <Bray90820_> I will be taught all of this in my windows command line class
[14:52] <Bray90820_> wait
[14:52] <Ssshh> but i have been known to use old install isos and upgrade from a chroot before first boot
[14:52] <Bray90820_> i ment Linux/unix comman line
[14:52] <Ssshh> try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:53] <Ssshh> if its Debian use aptitude safe-upgrade
[14:53] <Bray90820_> I already started the update process
[14:53] <Ssshh> you did read the release notes right?
[14:53] <Bray90820_>  didn't really need to because i pretty much knew everything it was going to say
[14:53] <Ssshh> ah ok cool :]
[14:54] <Bray90820_> I have been using ubuntu for almost 10 years
[14:54] <Bray90820_> i started on 8.04
[14:54] <Ssshh> i started Ubuntu on first release
[14:55] <Ssshh> twas fun
[14:55] <Ssshh> not particularily fond of it lately like
[14:55] <Bray90820_> you don't like the unity stuff huh
[14:56] <Ssshh> no i can say i do like it to an extent, but i prefer vanilla GNOME 3 to it
[14:56] <Ssshh> it could be very much more refined
[14:57] <nearst> hoary for me as i remember, canonical send me a live CD to install it. sweet memory
[14:57] <Ssshh> nearst: i remember them :]
[14:57] <Myrtti> memory lane runs to #ubuntu-offtopic too ;-)
[14:57] <Bray90820_> personally I love it but that might be due to the fact that i am using it as my tv interface with a touch screen and remote
[14:57] <Ssshh> im up for some of that!
[14:57] <nearst> Myrtti, ty for advice :P
[14:59] <Bray90820_> What i would like it a tablet to run ubuntu desktop with the touch interface
[15:00] <muttley_> hey all! :) anyone use this hacking tools? its great for learning!   http://adf.ly/cRFKQ
[15:00] <somsip> !touch | Bray90820_
[15:00] <knightshade> hi
[15:00] <trisquel> hi
[15:01] <Bray90820_> somsip: i was actually asking more about an overlay for the desktop version
[15:01] <Milkyway> french ?
[15:01] <somsip> Bray90820_: overlay? You mean unity?
[15:01] <somsip> !fr | Milkyway
[15:02] <trisquel> i have trouble configuring a hp printer Ink Adv 3515. It runs on 13.10 but doesn't run on 12.04 and i use 12.04?
[15:02] <jatt> does ubuntu 12.04 use systemd or upstart?
[15:02] <Bray90820_> somsip: I wanted the touch interface on top of the desktop version so i could run all the desktop apps but use it like a tablet
[15:02] <trisquel> what can be done
[15:02] <Bray90820_> somsip: i already have the desktop version installed
[15:03] <somsip> Bray90820_: you want to enable the touchscreen in unity?
[15:03] <Bray90820_> somsip: you know the interface for a device like a nexus 10 right
[15:03] <somsip> Bray90820_: No, I don't
[15:03] <trisquel> any idea
[15:04] <Cheery> how to configure sound settings in modern ubuntu?
[15:04] <Bray90820_> somsip: no offense but i don't think your the right person to be helping me
[15:05] <somsip> Bray90820_: I agree. Maybe if you can clarify exactly what you want, someone else can help.
[15:05] <Bray90820_> somsip: i actually did but you didn't realize that there is a different interface for tablets and desktops
[15:06] <trisquel> printer hp 3515 works on 13.10 and not on 12.04 why?
[15:06] <somsip> Bray90820_: it may be that you're expecting a convergence from !touch that is in development and !14.04 unity which is also in development. It may be that 14.04 gives you the unity experience you want, but without some of the screen-switching necessary on a small-form device. Anyway, EOT for me
[15:07] <robotti^> pippelispoppelis
[15:07] <somsip> !fi | robotti^
[15:08] <supauli> Btw: on ircnet the ubuntu.fi was invite only (?)
[15:08] <robotti^> I don't think so
[15:08] <Bray90820_> somsip: http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ubuntu-touch-nexus-10.jpg
[15:08] <robotti^> supauli: I am chatting on ubuntu.fi at ircnet
[15:09] <Bray90820_> that's the interface i want on the desktop verson so i can use it on my touch screen laptop
[15:09] <anonymous>
[15:09] <somsip> Bray90820_: as mentioned, !touch is in development and supported elsewhere. It's nice to have hopes for the next version of Unity, but you may not get concrete answers that help you here
[15:11] <Bray90820_> somsip: i just asked here since I wanted on top of the desktop version instead of starting with that as the base and not being able to install desktop apps
[15:11] <Bray90820_> do you get what i am saying
[15:11] <somsip> Bray90820_: you seem to want something that isn't there yet. For now, it's Unity. And I'm going to stop responses now as off topic.
[15:12] <Bray90820_> Anyone else wanna chime in
[15:12] <anonymous>
[15:12] <anonymous>
[15:12] <anonymous>
[15:12] <FloodBot1> anonymous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:13] <bwk> in gnome boxes I can't establish a connection to the ISOs i'm trying to make a box for. Any clues of why that is?
[15:14] <railsraider> can someone help me out with this upstart it hangs but when i just fire the start-stop-daemon from the shell it workshttp://pastebin.com/QtsYWUPb
[15:14] <railsraider> http://pastebin.com/QtsYWUPb
[15:16] <Bray90820_> Would ubuntu work well installed as a VM on a clover trail processor
[15:17] <Cheery> so nobody knows how to adjust ubuntu audio from terminal?
[15:18] <supauli> Cheery: alsamixer
[15:18] <adje123>
[15:18] <adje123>
[15:18] <adje123>
[15:18] <FloodBot1> adje123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <Cheery> supauli: thanks!
[15:18] <supauli> Cheery: np!
[15:20] <Bai11> I'm trying to do CUDA development locally, but I'm not confident about configuring everything. I've got an NVIDIA GeForce 525m, but that's tied up with the integrated graphics. I expect to configure the driver for the card, configuring Bumblebee, and then install CUDA 5.5, but I'm not sure how to approach it. Can I get some thoughts on this?
[15:20] <bwk> anyone know of gnome-boxes and it failling to connect to ISOs?
[15:21] <supauli> Bai11: I use OpenCL with nvidia cards, its just packages opencl-headers and nvidia-<something>
[15:22] <Bai11> supauli: I gotta use CUDA, part of a class on Coursera
[15:22] <supauli> Bai11: I see, (opencl is imho better due it can be used with different vendor cards), but for cuda i cannot say for sure
[15:23] <supauli> Bai11:  But see: vidia-304-dev: /usr/include/nvidia-304/cuda/cuda.h
[15:23] <oal> I'm trying to take a screenshot in SuperTuxKart, with Shutter, but I always get tearing, even though vsync is enabled in STK. Any ideas how I can do this?
[15:23] <supauli> I think if you just install the nvidia-<versionhere>-dev it might have all the needed files
[15:23] <supauli> !help
[15:24] <traceroute87> I have a fresh install and recently just installed my nvidia drivers. Now every time I boot I see this " Missing Operating System" error. And I no longer see a boot splash. It stays black till I reach X?
[15:25] <supauli> traceroute87: something went wrong with your installation, i think
[15:25] <supauli> did it boot ok at all after installation?
[15:26] <pikaren> is yum better than apt
[15:26] <supauli> no
[15:26] <color_fish> I would please like some help on remastersys. I have created a remastersys backup whilst in a chrooted environment. it generated an iso which I tested on a virtual machine (qemu) in the chrooted environment. However when I use "dd" to copy the iso over to a Flash Drive to make it bootable, It doesnt boot at all on a real machine. I need help.
[15:28] <color_fish> I would please like some help on remastersys. I have created a remastersys backup whilst in a chrooted environment. it generated an iso which I tested on a virtual machine (qemu) in the chrooted environment. However when I use "dd" to copy the iso over to a Flash Drive to make it bootable, It doesnt boot at all on a real machine. I need help.
[15:29] <traceroute87> supauli, Well initially after I killed nouveau and rebooted. It was stuck on a black screen and wouldn't do anything and I was unable to see access a login prompt. So I rebooted into recovery and finished my nvidia installation then rebooted and everything was fine, Minus that error and no bootsplash
[15:35] <tuxcrafter> hi all i need to install six ubuntu 13.10 kvm quests systems downloaded the offical server iso and followed the steps, but the end results is a ineffective quests with way to much swap space, wierd big console resolution and some other stuff i dont like
[15:35] <tuxcrafter> is there a special optimised ubuntu kvm quest iso
[15:35] <tuxcrafter> server 13.10 amd64
[15:36] <andrew806> tuxcrafter not that i know of. what hardware are you using?
[15:36] <compdoc> tuxcrafter, nothing wrong with using the standard iso. I do.
[15:37] <tuxcrafter> andrew806: im using a intel xeon cluster
[15:37] <andrew806> why are you using 13.10 server?
[15:37] <tuxcrafter> customer demand
[15:37] <andrew806> why not 12.04?
[15:37] <tuxcrafter> normaly i use debian
[15:37] <garylabronz> how do i use terminus font, with xterm, doing like xterm -fn terminus doesnt load it
[15:37] <mads-> I live in a crowded residential area and I would like to know if anyone has connected to my wifi. Is there a way to analyze (or just check activity) on my network?
[15:37] <garylabronz> i have installted console-terminus
[15:37] <andrew806> mads, log into your router
[15:37] <andrew806> and check the status of your LAN
[15:37] <andrew806> it'll show all current devices connected
[15:38] <compdoc> 13.10 is a bad choice for that
[15:39] <tuxcrafter> compdoc: why is it a bad choice?
[15:39] <color_fish> I would please like some help on remastersys. I have created a remastersys backup whilst in a chrooted environment. it generated an iso which I tested on a virtual machine (qemu) in the chrooted environment. However when I use "dd" to copy the iso over to a Flash Drive to make it bootable, It doesnt boot at all on a real machine. I need help.
[15:40] <martian> When using bash completion of directory names, why does bash auto complete a trailing slash on to directory names but not symlinks? When trying to cd to a symlink, I need to hit tab twice. No big deal but it would be nice if I didn't have to. Any thoughts?
[15:40] <mads-> andrew806, a bit easier than I had imagined :) Thanks
[15:41] <compdoc> tuxcrafter, end of life is July 2014
[15:41] <Bray90820_> Anyone know if there is an ubuntu touch sell i can run on top of ubuntu desktop instead of unity so i can have the touch features while still being able to run desktop apps
[15:41] <tuxcrafter> compdoc: ah yes i know
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Bray90820_: try in #ubuntu-touch
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Bray90820_: the Unity shell is quite touch frindly
[15:43] <tonino> ciao
[15:43] <Bray90820_> ActionParsnip: I did as well but since i was installing the desktop version as a base i thought i would as here as well
[15:43] <tonino> !list
[15:53] <[Ethos]> Good Day!
[15:54] <linuxuser1000> hello
[15:55] <linuxuser1000> i've just ran a jockey-text --list and for some reason it says my video card driver is disabled
[15:55] <linuxuser1000> kmod:nvidia_319_updates - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use)
[15:55] <linuxuser1000> even the free one is disabled
[15:56] <linuxuser1000> it scares me seeing my nvidia card is disabled
[15:56] <[Ethos]> You can download the binary from the nvidia.com
[15:56] <[Ethos]> that would be propietary
[15:56] <[Ethos]> but ubuntuguide.org
[15:56] <linuxuser1000> i did but that just gets me into a blackscreen
[15:56] <[Ethos]> has non-propietary version
[15:56] <linuxuser1000> after install
[15:56] <linuxuser1000> and reboot
[15:56] <[Ethos]> do a fresh install
[15:56] <Vinyl> hello
[15:56] <[Ethos]> and download one from ubuntuguide.org
[15:57] <linuxuser1000> is the non proprietary better
[15:57] <linuxuser1000> ?
[15:58] <Beldar> linuxuser1000, The proprietary wont follow kernel upgrades for one.
[15:58] <[Ethos]> not much difference, one is written by nvidia, the other one is written and customized for Ubuntu by Linux Developers
[15:58] <garylabronz>  any ideas using terminus with xterm? running xterm -fn terminus doesnt work
[15:58] <linuxuser1000> i still wonder why does primusrun and optirun work
[15:58] <Vinyl> If it's working fine, leave it as it is
[15:58] <linuxuser1000> if my videocard is disabled
[15:58] <[Ethos]> Beldar or anyone has found a way to dual boot with Windows 8?
[15:59] <Vinyl> I triple boot
[15:59] <Ben64> linuxuser1000: because you have dual gpu
[15:59] <[Ethos]> lulz
[15:59] <Orpheon> I need some help with some RAM problems. I have 8 GB of RAM installed, but both ubuntu and windows7 (dualboot) only detect 4. Even the BIOS does this http://i.imgur.com/wG6CfsI.jpg , and memtest shows both http://i.imgur.com/zubWJfh.jpg , More details about the devices: http://i.imgur.com/p2bEsUD.jpg . Anyone have any idea how to deal with this?
[15:59] <Beldar> [Ethos], Many dual boot in that scenario.
[15:59] <Orpheon> (Alternatively, anyone know an other channel where it would be more appropriate?)
[15:59] <[Ethos]> please guide me to how to
[15:59] <linuxuser1000> and if i do primusrun glxspheres
[15:59] <Vinyl> Ethos, do you use uefi as system?
[15:59] <linuxuser1000> it says it's running through the nvidia
[15:59] <Beldar> !uefi | [Ethos]
[15:59] <linuxuser1000> card
[16:00] <Vinyl> Sorry, new to irc and such. Don't know all of the commands and such :)
[16:00] <[Ethos]> Vinyl: Yes
[16:01] <[Ethos]> Beldar: Thanks.
[16:01] <Vinyl> Okay, Ethos. What are you running atm?
[16:01] <Vinyl> Or can I see that with a script
[16:01] <Beldar> Orpheon, There are limitations on the amount of memory for any setup, does your computer run on 8 gigs, did you check this?
[16:01] <Orpheon> yes
[16:02] <[Ethos]> Windows
[16:02] <Orpheon> a friend bought the exact same computer, he has 8 GB, he just didn't put ubuntu on top of the existing windows
[16:02] <Beldar> Orpheon, Is the ubuntu 64 bits?
[16:02] <Orpheon> at least I assume that's the reason, never noticed this before
[16:02] <Orpheon> yes, both OSes are 64-bit, although that shouldn't matter if even the BIOS has trouble
[16:02] <Vinyl> Ethos, did you buy a laptop with w8 already installed?
[16:02] <Orpheon> Beldar, ^
[16:03] <[Ethos]> my laptop already has Ubuntu 13.10
[16:03] <Vinyl> Aah okay, system76?
[16:03] <Beldar> Orpheon, I would check that the memory is seated, and be sure that the computer will actually use 8 gigs, not assume it will.
[16:05] <[Ethos]> Beldar: so you recommend legacy boot
[16:05] <[Ethos]> and dualboot
[16:05] <[Ethos]> right?
[16:06] <TJ-> Orpheon: what's the make/model of the PC (or motherboard) ?
[16:06] <Orpheon> TJ-, not sure what name you want. Intel i5?
[16:06] <Vinyl> Legacy boot is always better
[16:06] <Vinyl> Well
[16:06] <[Ethos]> that's uefi
[16:06] <Vinyl> IF you dont mind a 2 sec longer startup or something :P
[16:07] <[Ethos]> Vinyl: stop trolling man
[16:07] <TJ-> Orpheon: I can't be any clearer!
[16:08] <Orpheon> TJ-, sorry, my own ignorance
[16:08] <Vinyl> Am I trolling or something Ethos?
[16:08] <TJ-> Orpheon: what is the make and model of the PC, or if it is a white-box or self-built, what is the make/model of the motherboard?
[16:08] <Orpheon> TJ-, [    0.000000] DMI: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. P55-UD3L/P55-UD3L, BIOS FI 11/01/2010
[16:08] <Bray90820_> Does unity 8 have detection of a hardware keyboard like on ubuntu touch
[16:08] <Orpheon> bought, not self-built
[16:08] <TJ-> Orpheon: thanks
[16:09] <bingo> Hello. does anyone know the commands to remove the old video drivers before updating to the newest. I found that if i remove the ones currently, the new ones wil install fine and not brick my OS
[16:10] <Bray90820_> i am asking so i can use the touch keyboard when no hardware keyboard is attached to my touchscreen laptop esktop
[16:10] <Orpheon> TJ-, here's the dmesg output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6792342/
[16:10] <Bray90820_> laptop not dsktop
[16:10] <Ben64> bingo: apt-get should handle all of that, unless you installed with a strange method
[16:11] <bingo> no, but it just wont work. I upgrade id driver it bricks. This isnot new, some are have this problem. But! I did find a solution once that allowed me to update, i had to remove current driver listing first. I just cant recall the thread
[16:11] <adie> how would I go about completely disabling a sound card? :<
[16:11] <bingo> something to do with it needing to be clear to point to new driver on boot
[16:11] <Ben64> bingo: that makes no sense
[16:12] <bingo> its hard to explain, but if i upgrade driver to newest, 100% it will nto boot
[16:12] <bingo> if i dont first remove listing for current
[16:13] <bingo> im looking, ill try to show you
[16:13] <TJ-> Orpheon: The DMI info suggests that modules A0 and A2 are mapped to 0x00000000, and A1 and A3 are mapped to 0x80000000. That is wrong, each should be mapped to a different address:
[16:13] <bingo> but I am not alone, many people have this nvidia issue
[16:13] <color_fish> I would please like some help on remastersys. I have created a remastersys backup whilst in a chrooted environment. it generated an iso which I tested on a virtual machine (qemu) in the chrooted environment. However when I use "dd" to copy the iso over to a Flash Drive to make it bootable, It doesnt boot at all on a real machine. I need help.
[16:13] <germanstudent> Are there good gnuplot alternatives? (Want to know, because I have to decide which tool to study)
[16:13] <Ben64> bingo: well you must have installed the driver manually or something, because what you're saying simply is not the case
[16:14] <bingo> yes i had, i used the "additional driver"
[16:14] <color_fish> I would please like some help on remastersys. I have created a remastersys backup whilst in a chrooted environment. it generated an iso which I tested on a virtual machine (qemu) in the chrooted environment. However when I use "dd" to copy the iso over to a Flash Drive to make it bootable, It doesnt boot at all on a real machine. I need help.
[16:14] <bingo> d yuo know command to remove association for removing 304 driver ?
[16:15] <bingo> whatever may conflict with updating
[16:15] <bingo> to 319*
[16:15] <toad_> Hi folks, anyone else having problem installing packages from apt archives? I'm constantly getting "packages could not be authenticated".... :/
[16:15] <bingo> found thread ! Ben64 , want to see?
[16:16] <Beldar> color_fish, remastersys is a 3rd party not in the ubuntu repos, technically not supported here, you might try ##linux
[16:16] <toad_> @color_fish - you can't dd an iso to a flash drive - and iso is an optical disc image AFAIK
[16:16] <bingo> Ben64, http://askubuntu.com/questions/145195/nvidia-driver-problem-after-updating-to-12-04  --- this worked for me
[16:17] <Beldar> toad_, Not authenticated is a missing key generally.
[16:17] <toad_> @Beldar, got all the keys, deleted them and reimported them
[16:17] <toad_> cleared the apt cache /var/lib/apt/lists etc
[16:18] <Ben64> bingo: so what you're saying is, you have two version of nvidia installed? well sure, that can cause problems
[16:18] <toad_> no joy... :( think it might be proxy/firewall but can't fathom why
[16:18] <bingo> ya but, Ubuntu for me, wont do it when i upgrade driver. it does for most
[16:18] <Beldar> toad_, It would help if you showed these is a pastebin to the channel, we also don't use @ here, you cab tab complete nicks.
[16:18] <bingo> hence why is problem
[16:18] <Beldar> in*
[16:18] <Ben64> bingo: then you need to get rid of the packages that you do not need, and keep the correct nvidia one, then it will work
[16:18] <bingo> most Ubuntu users it wont install 2 versions, this is problem for some people. I am one
[16:19] <bingo> yes!
[16:19] <bingo> i found command for get rid :)
[16:19] <Ben64> don't do what it says in that link you posted though
[16:19] <bingo> it worked last time
[16:19] <bingo> but okay, what i do?
[16:19] <Ben64> 1st, what video card do you have
[16:19] <bingo> gefore 9600m gt
[16:19] <Ben64> is it dual gpu?
[16:19] <toad_> OK Beldar, will get a pastbin up in a sec
[16:19] <bingo> i dont know
[16:21] <Ben64> bingo: what does "lspci | grep VGA" say
[16:21] <bingo>  NVIDIA Corporation G96M [GeForce 9600M GT] (rev a1)
[16:21] <bingo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G96M [GeForce 9600M GT] (rev a1)
[16:23] <Ben64> bingo: ok, and "cat /etc/issue"
[16:23] <bingo> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[16:24] <ekarlso> http://pastebin.com/pyRNKUXt < is this a bug in kernel package or ?
[16:25] <bingo> Ben64, , my concern is that if it does not work i cant boot and must reinstall. wh cant i use method i know worked
[16:28] <Ben64> bingo: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia"
[16:29] <bingo> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/Aq57jCL2
[16:30] <bingo> Ben64, this worked last time sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current
[16:30] <bingo> but i wont do yet
[16:31] <Ben64> you've already got the latest 304 driver
[16:31] <bingo> better is avaialble in list
[16:31] <bingo> 309
[16:31] <bingo> i should not bother?
[16:31] <bingo> says recommended
[16:32] <Ben64> unless you're trying to do gaming, not worth it
[16:32] <bingo> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current  let me use 309
[16:32] <bingo> yes gaming
[16:32] <Ben64> then you should use 319
[16:32] <bingo> yes sorr 219
[16:32] <bingo> 3
[16:32] <bingo> so i can do sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current then?
[16:32] <bingo> only way i was able to use it
[16:32] <Ben64> well you don't have nvidia-current
[16:32] <Ben64> because you keep breaking everything :)
[16:32] <bingo> ill try the others on that page, one worked
[16:32] <bingo> without it, i cant boot
[16:32] <Ben64> you can if you stop purging things all the time
[16:33] <bingo> from th start, fresh install
[16:33] <bingo> wont boot when i upgrade
[16:33] <bingo> every time
[16:33] <bingo> this is problem that is not uncommon for some
[16:33] <Ben64> you're doing something wrong if its not upgrading
[16:33] <bingo> all i do is use the gui
[16:33] <bingo> what i can do wrong?
[16:33] <Ben64> anyway, purge nvidia*
[16:34] <bingo> i dont know why it works, but it does
[16:34] <bingo> :/
[16:34] <teddy> hello!!!
[16:34] <bingo> if i upgrade to 319 now and dont do it, it wont boot, 100 sure :/, ty fo your help though Ben64
[16:35] <Ben64> then do sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g) nvidia-319-updates nvidia-319-updates-dev nvidia-common nvidia-settings-319-updates
[16:35] <toad_> Hi folks, can anyone tell me why I'm getting apt package authentication problem when trying to install update?   http://pastebin.com/uNw8w2Fh
[16:35] <Ben64> then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[16:36] <guillaumeJ> bonjour comment allez vous ,
[16:36] <guillaumeJ> ?
[16:36] <Ben64> then it should have built the new module and you can have 319
[16:36] <Ben64> !fr | guillaumeJ
[16:37] <Bray90820_> How well does ubuntu run on intel atom z2760 if at all
[16:39] <Unforgiven> if i do apt-get source <package> , can i copy that source and install to other laptop (same ubuntu distro)
[16:40] <longviewbits> Unforgiven: I'm guessing yes... I don't know if source tarballs get put in the same directory as .deb files /var/cache/apt/archives/, but if they do... you want to put them there on the target system.
[16:41] <longviewbits> Unforgiven: does the source system not have an Internet connection? (or a slow/metered connection)
[16:41] <Unforgiven> longviewbits: no, just hating to download the same thing
[16:42] <longviewbits> Unforgiven: much easier to just do that
[16:42] <Pici> Unforgiven: Is there a reason you can't use the binary instead of the source?
[16:42] <longviewbits> Unforgiven: why not just download it again?
[16:42] <Unforgiven> oh that apt-get source is not a binary source?
[16:42] <TJ-> Unforgiven: The packages are downloaded to the current directory and extracted there; I have "/home/all/SourceCode/" where I pull source to. You don't need "sudo" to do "apt-get source <package>"
[16:42] <longviewbits> Unforgiven: is this a gigantic file, or something? If not, then what's the big deal?
[16:43] <q_a_z_steve> Trying to boot recent versions of Ubuntu or even Tails and I get screens like this. I can't get past it even with rEFInd installed on my Macbook Pro. http://picpaste.com/dTBlcmGN.JPG http://picpaste.com/ijMQHMFr.JPG
[16:44] <TJ-> Unforgiven: If you just want to download the binary .deb files use "sudo apt-get --download-only install <package>"
[16:44] <longviewbits> q_a_z_steve: there's a fix for that... run OS X on it. :)
[16:44] <longviewbits> q_a_z_steve: as it was designed for ;)
[16:44] <Pici> Unforgiven: no.. it is the actual source code of the package.  If you have just installed it recently on computer 1, you can go into /var/cache/apt/archives/  and copy it out.
[16:45] <q_a_z_steve> longviewbits: Thanks. Troll.
[16:45] <Unforgiven> TJ-: does that download the dependencies as well
[16:46] <tonino> ciao
[16:46] <longviewbits> q_a_z_steve: I'm not a troll. I use both OSes, on both types of hardware. I have experience with this issue. It is seriously a freak of nature, in my opinion, to try and shoehorn Linux on to a machine that was designed to run a different OS. Not to mention, a serious waste of money.
[16:47] <Ben64> !behelpful | longviewbits
[16:47] <q_a_z_steve> So what if all I'm trying to do is use a liveCD for a specific purpose and then I'll go right back to supporting Apple and their security holes?
[16:49] <TJ-> Unforgiven: As far as I recall, yes. It'll do the same job as a regular install with regards to downloading the packages.
[16:50] <nicofs> I have a small PC (Odroid) running Xubuntu with XBMC on top [A] and my normal Xubuntu PC [B]. Is there a way (UPnP?) to initiate streaming of a media file from within [B] to XBMC on PC [A], i.e. by context menu on PC [B] "send to > PC A (XBMC)"...? (Did I phrase that in a way that is understandable? oO )
[16:53] <ikonia> nicofs: I have no idea what you've just tried to explain
[16:54] <TJ-> nicofs: You want a context-menu item in the file-browser that allows you to add a custom send-to action via a custom-written script... is that it?
[16:56] <nicofs> TJ-, and more than that a way to "push-stream" a media file to a remote (UPnP) device...
[16:56] <nicofs> ikonia, in a way, I want to "push" a file from my PC to a remote PC's XBMC...
[16:57] <ikonia> so server -> client, rather than client <- server
[16:57] <nicofs> ikonia, yes
[16:57] <ikonia> I thought upnp was based on requests not push
[16:59] <nicofs> ikonia, i don't know much about UPnP - it was just the only thing i could think of looking for similar/exisiting things...
[16:59] <ikonia> why do you want to push, rather than clients request
[17:00] <tonino> quit
[17:01] <tonino> !quit
[17:01] <nicofs> ikonia, client has no peripherals whatsoever. all i do is open the remote page in a browser on my pc, navigating through the same pc's shared folders on the remote device. click and start would save time...
[17:01] <ikonia> doesn't sound like you're using the right app for what you want
[17:02] <ikonia> are you trying to do something like push out adverising videos to displays around a shop (for example)
[17:02] <q_a_z_steve> longviewbits: Have you got anything that can help me get past the issue?
[17:03] <nicofs> ikonia, if you consider the living room projector a shop, yes
[17:04] <pangel> .
[17:04] <pangel> My screen still dims after unchecking "dim screen to save power" using Gnome 3.10 and Ubuntu 13.10. Is that a known problem?
[17:07] <ldcicconi> does anyone know how I can use an IDE on my local computer to edit files on a cloud server?
[17:07] <nicofs> ikonia, if i take out my smartphone and select the "multi-screen" button, my XBMC instantly displays whatever my smartphone sends. I don's see why that shouldn't work from my pc...
[17:08] <nicofs> granted, sending the command to stream might be slightly more sophisticated - but would be exactly what i'd like to have...
[17:09] <Bray90820_> can ubuntu run on an intel atom z2760 processor
[17:09] <ikonia> nicofs: ok, I see what you mean now. It maybe worth looking at the Apple Airplay open source implimentations (not actual airplay) as there is a "send to device" function that could work well for you
[17:09] <ikonia> nicofs: depends on what that app is
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Bray90820_: yes
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> pangel: how did you install Gnome 3.10?
[17:10] <Bray90820_> ActionParsnip: SCORE
[17:11] <BigMao> Hi there, my machine was compromised yesterday.  I'm reinstalling it now, do I need to wipe the home folder? (It's mounted on a different partition).
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> BigMao: you could virus scan it from liveCD etc..
[17:11] <BigMao> ActionParsnip, thanks. What is a good virus scanner for Linux?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> BigMao: clamav, avg...various
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !av
[17:12] <nicofs> ikonia, thanks so far :) I think this apple thing is worth looking at for a start...
[17:12] <BigMao> I have a pretty good idea of how the machine was compromised (sshd was replaced) - but I don't know of anything that might be lurking in users' home folders that might be logging passwords
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> BigMao: rkhunter may help too
[17:13] <BigMao> ActionParsnip, thanks - rkhunter seems to look on the root filesystem and not in peoples' home folders afaik.
[17:13] <waykool99> ClamTK or ClamAV, same thing. plus i use Tiger unix security and BleachBit (as root).
[17:13] <Bray90820_> Am i right that wubi isn't around anymore?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> BigMao: not sure, worth throwing in to the mix, if its no good then fine :)
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Bray90820_: its not developed anymore
[17:14] <MarkDavies> Does somebody know if MS Word handles ODF documents properly?
[17:14] <MarkDavies> (no fireworks)
[17:14] <Bray90820_> Oh well i will just wait till tomorrow then to install ubuntu
[17:15] <BigMao> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[17:17] <waykool99> might it be possible in ubuntu studio v13.10 to download the elements of the Gnome 2 GUI to replace Xfce or run side by side?
[17:22] <Pessimist> waykool99, gnome 2 is discontinued but there's a fork of it called "the mate desktop environment". It is in ubuntu 14.04 repositories but not 13.10. You can use a ppa though. I don't know what you mean by 'elements of the gnome 2 gui' but you can run mate applications on xfce and vice-versa but you still have to choose one desktop environment
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: just install the gnome-panel package then log off
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: Cinnamon is also in the official repos
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !away > GTB3NW_AWAY
[17:24] <Vynel> !uefi
[17:24] <Vynel> Is there a command that shows all the !?
[17:24] <Vynel> like !help
[17:25] <Vynel> !help
[17:25] <Vynel> !patience
[17:26] <Vynel> !uefi Vinyl
[17:30] <PDPC101> linux firewall is essentially broken until kernel 3.15
[17:30] <Vynel> iptables eh
[17:30] <bingo> hello, what is the command to show which vid driver i am using ?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: how so, its still iptables which is separate to the kernel
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: your statement doesnt make sense
[17:31] <PDPC101> nftables takes precedence
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: how, if it's not installed?
[17:32] <PDPC101> nftables iptables and nts fight ntf wins
[17:33] <bingo> Hello. Vidro driver says it is activated but not currently in use. How can i make it in use?
[17:33] <bingo> video*
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> bingo: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[17:34] <bingo> ActionParsnip, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G96M [GeForce 9600M GT] (rev a1)
[17:34] <bingo> pc-02@pc02-laptop:~$
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> bingo: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:35] <bingo> i want to know which driver version is using currently
[17:35] <bingo> k
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> bingo: sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[17:35] <bingo> ActionParsnip, pc-02@pc02-laptop:~$ cat /etc/issue
[17:35] <bingo> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: I have trusty on 3.13 kernel, no nftables command to set it up.....
[17:35] <bingo> ActionParsnip, sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[17:35] <bingo>        configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[17:35] <bingo> pc-02@pc02-laptop:~$  sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[17:35] <bingo>        configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[17:35] <bingo> pc-02@pc02-laptop:~$
[17:36] <bingo> sorry
[17:36] <FloodBot1> bingo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> bingo: then it's in use :)
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> bingo: nvidia is the proprietary video driver
[17:36] <bingo> yes but which version?
[17:36] <bingo> i want 319
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> bingo: if you run:   nvidia-settings    does it say?
[17:37] <bingo> says 319 but on "additional drivers" says its activated but not in use. Confused which is correct
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> bingo: additional drivers can be ignored, if nvidia-settings is telling you its ok, it's fine
[17:38] <bingo> ok ty , i test fps now :)
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: so how can anyone configure nftables, without a configuration method? Guess what does the firewalling? iptables, just like it always has
[17:40] <PDPC101> nft is in the kernel you just have to trust its disabled bug free or have a sane default
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: Im using the default Trusty kernel, so why would it be disabled if its so magnificent?
[17:41] <puchacz_> hi, I think I am experiencing this problem: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=15378.0   when I try to convert a specific image, I am getting: convert: invalid argument for option `-resize': -resize 512x512 @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/2382.
[17:42] <puchacz_> is this there another resizer on ubuntu?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> puchacz_: does 'file' report the source file as an image ok?
[17:42] <PDPC101> so you trust thing you cant confirm or even attest its functioning or not
[17:42] <PDPC101> or configure
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: i looked online for the commands to configure the nftable service, I have none of them.
[17:44] <PDPC101> just because the commands to configure it arent in place it doesnt mean the code isnt in use
[17:44] <puchacz_> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: then how would I configure my firewall without tools to configure it?
[17:44] <puchacz_> ActionParsnip: other commands from imagemagick work ok on it, for example: convert  /home/puchacz/tmp/wikimedia-images.2014.01.19/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Carpinus_betulus_\'Fastigiata\'_by_Line1.jpg -print "%w%" /dev/null
[17:44] <puchacz_> gives me width of the image
[17:45] <PDPC101> so is ntf disable?
[17:45] <PDPC101> the code is in the kernel
[17:45] <puchacz_> ActionParsnip: I will try to use gimp in command line mode
[17:45] <ggz> hi
[17:46] <PDPC101> you cant even atest to wether or not they are in use by default
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6792793
[17:46] <ggz> when I launch chromium the first site I open freeze, i need to open a second tab to have a working site, i'm on ubuntu 12.04
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: its not a service or a command.
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> puchacz_: does the partition you are converting to have free space and inodes
[17:47] <puchacz_> ActionParsnip: yes, 35% in use in df -h
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> puchacz_: and:  df -i
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: "The currently used iptables(8), ip6tables(8), arptables(8), and ebtables(8) (IPv4, IPv6, ARP, and Ethernet bridging) are intended to be replaced with nft(8) as a single unified implementation, providing firewall configuration on top of the in-kernel virtual machine."    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nftables
[17:47] <puchacz_> ActionParsnip: 3%
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: look, its not in yet, you are reading this all wrong
[17:48] <puchacz_> I think it is convert issue, like I pasted....
[17:48] <puchacz_> it does not work only for some images
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: believe what you want,I'm geting back to support
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> puchacz_: can you convert to another image type, then resize that. Just to test
[17:48] <PDPC101> http://www.linux.com/news/software/linux-kernel/758150-linux-kernel-313-why-you-will-love-nftables-
[17:48] <puchacz_> ActionParsnip: let me google the command
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: yes but it doesnt mean its in every kernel
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> puchacz_: convert inputfile.jpg outputname.png   for example
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: you can compile a kernel with no USB support if you wante
[17:49] <PDPC101> i know that
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: so saying it is a feature in the 3.13 kernel is moot if the Ubuntu devs dont include it
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: so, if you are using the stock ubuntu kernel, its not in there and iptables is used
[17:50] <PDPC101> im using trusty
[17:50] <puchacz_> ActionParsnip: no worries, it had to do with quotes in filename. Something is wrong in my script
[17:51] <k1l> PDPC101: for 14.04 please use #ubuntu+a since its in development state
[17:51] <dario_> buonasera
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: if its not in the kernel, it wont be active. There are no commands in a default trusty install to configure nftables so its a very safe assumption it's not present and that iptables is doing the work
[17:51] <PDPC101> ok
[17:52] <gx> Anyone know of a CLI program that I can use to compare 2 WAV files and get a good estimation of whether or not they're a match?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> PDPC101: im sure in time, if it is beneficial then it will move over but for now its not
[17:53] <PDPC101> just making sure its better to not have them that to havem half backed
[17:54] <genioff> j gis
[17:58] <|ozymandias7|> Hi!
[18:04] <kancha> ok here I am agaoin
[18:04] <kancha> http://pastebin.com/ewVmiyLm
[18:04] <kancha> I wrote a bash code
[18:05] <kancha> which helps to delete the content of all files from line 30 to 1000 of txt file of all files of folder
[18:05] <kancha>  ./run.sh: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `sed' ./run.sh: line 4: `      sed -e '30,1000d'; f > f'
[18:05] <kancha> this is an error
[18:06] <ggz> kancha: you need to write $f in your loop
[18:06] <kancha> ok
[18:08] <Shudorshon> Hello, does anyone knows the official support channel of Voyager xubuntu distro?
[18:14] <Guest35548> Hi, guys, I was able to download Minecraft and get permissions to run it, but now I want to get some extra free mods to play with, one of which are the "Mini Clay Soldiers". I am kinda new to Linux, and for the likes of me, I can't find any easy download or way to get mods on Ubuntu 12.04. help if you can
[18:15] <Shudorshon> pinky,  hi
[18:15] <pinky> Shudorshon: hi
[18:16] <Shudorshon> pinky,  where u frm
[18:18] <shmup> in Ubuntu GNOME, is there more going on than just removing Unity and adding Gnome?
[18:18] <Guest35548> anybody know about Minecraft and mods?
[18:23] <Beldar> shmup, unity is tiny and not really a removable per-say easily.
[18:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: what.
[18:24] <Shudorshon> SonikkuAmerica,  do u know the official support channel of voyager os
[18:24] <Beldar> SonikkuAmerica, Show me a wiki or legit link on removing unity.
[18:24] <Beldar> ;)
[18:24] <Shudorshon> Beldar,  do u know
[18:25] <streulma> how can I solve that my sound is not stuttering with Virtualbox in Ubuntu ?
[18:25] <Beldar> Shudorshon, use whole words here, do I know what.
[18:25] <Shudorshon> beldar,  do u know the official support channel of voyager os
[18:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: [ sudo apt-get remove unity ] aaaaaaaand it's gone.
[18:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: Use [ purge ] instead of [ remove ] to get rid of the Unity extras.
[18:26] <Beldar> Shudorshon, That has nothing to do with ubuntu support, and do not just ask questions of people on the channel who have mot addressed your question,
[18:27] <Shudorshon> Beldar,  it runs in ubuntu
[18:27] <traceroute87> After installing my nvidia driver. My boot screen disappeared. Anyone know how I can fix this? Thanks
[18:27] <Beldar> SonikkuAmerica, Hardly, unity is a compiz plugin sitting on gnome 3
[18:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: So? Get GNOME Shell if you want to directly replace Unity, see !GNOME
[18:28] <Guest35548> does anyone know how to get mods for Minecraft?
[18:28] <Guest35548> or not
[18:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Guest35548
[18:28] <Guest35548> thanks
[18:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: Unity is currently a shell for GNOME, but Unity 8 will be a Qt/QML shell. By that time, Ubuntu proper will have its own stock apps and utilities (forked from GNOME).
[18:30] <Beldar> SonikkuAmerica, The general consensus on this channel of the top helpers is unity is small and not worth removing.
[18:31] <Vynel> sup
[18:31] <Beldar> there is no official docs on doing so
[18:31] <percybionic> Hi! I have a dual boot Windows 8/linux-secure-13.04-64bits. Is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu to get a normal version by writing "sudo update-manager -d" ?
[18:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: Granted, you *could* let Unity sit there and vegetate, but if you wanted another DE it's common practice to grab a Live image of one of the other DEs or use the mini.iso
[18:32] <SonikkuAmerica> (to build a custom version)
[18:34] <shahan1322f> question, how do you resize launcher icon size in unity with 13.10 and gconf-editor?  or was it not gconf?
[18:35] <Beldar> SonikkuAmerica, Dude, I was not looking for your opinions, just helping another user in the manner this channel has and does do.
[18:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: Sorry, was trying to clarify a thing or 2
[18:37] <Pessimist> shahan1322f, get unity tweak
[18:37] <ionwind> hello
[18:38] <ionwind> someone how to activate doble panel in nautilus?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> percybionic: that will upgrade you to Trusty. You will leapfrog a release which is known to cause issues
[18:39] <shahan1322f> why is the general consensus on things like ccsm and unity-tweak so negative?
[18:39] <k1l> ionwind: wasnt that removed?
[18:39] <ionwind> yep thats way i want to have it again
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> percybionic: you will need to upgrade to 13.10 first, then to 14.04 which you would have got with your command. (I suggest you research what your command actually does)
[18:40] <ResQue> how can i set grub to auto boot?
[18:40] <ionwind> i dont know why they removed its a great app
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> shahan1322f: ccsm has a nice warning when you run it
[18:40] <shahan1322f> Pessimist, thank you btw
[18:40] <k1l> ionwind: well, ask the gnome boys :)
[18:40] <ionwind> yes.... :(
[18:40] <shahan1322f> ActionParsnip, does the same go for unity tweak? what about these apps makes them so?
[18:40] <Oneill> any simple way to disable monitor sleep for ubuntu server? really want to monitor some graphs and i need it to be always on
[18:41] <k1l> shahan1322f: unity tweak is the official settings app for unity.
[18:41] <percybionic> ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:41] <streulma> is Ubuntu Precise 12.04.3 LTS recommended for a stable system ?
[18:41] <shahan1322f> k1l, oh i got it mixed up with something else
[18:41] <streulma> !lts
[18:42] <k1l> shahan1322f: what you might mean is ubuntu-tweak, which is a something like the "windows speed up" utilities.
[18:42] <shahan1322f> i see i see.. hmm
[18:42] <k1l> shahan1322f: ccsm has some warnings, because beginners can crash their whole desktop with the settings
[18:42] <ionwind> thanks kll
[18:43] <streulma> can I make Ubuntu runs faster ?
[18:44] <k1l> streulma: there is no hidden config with: make_ubuntu_faster=0 which you need to make =1   :)
[18:44] <shahan1322f> isn't there a way to make launcher icons smaller than 32 pixels? in 13.10?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> streulma: sure, use a lighter desktop
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> streulma: LXDE and XFCE will use fewer resources and run faster
[18:47] <shahan1322f> or was that only 13.04?
[18:51] <Jonathanchasr> Hello
[18:52] <verdes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies ; http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/
[18:52] <verdes> http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ ; both give 'Not found'
[18:53] <Jonathanchasr> I have a question, when I install Ubuntu on vmware I cant get my wireless card to be used in the virtual machine if I use ifconfig eth0 only pops up is there a way of getting mon0 to pop up without buying a seperate USB Wireless Adapter
[18:53] <ikonia> Jonathanchasr: the vm should not see a wireless card
[18:54] <ikonia> Jonathanchasr: it should only see an ethernet card that is bridged to the wireless connection on the host
[18:54] <xananax> Hello all. If I have a solid state drive of 15g, and a normal drive of 1 tera, and want to dual boot between win7 and buntu, anyone has pointers on the best partition scheme?
[18:54] <bazhang> verdes, #debian for debain support
[18:55] <ikonia> xananax: don't use the 15gb ssd
[18:55] <ikonia> xananax: that is too small for windows and too small to share
[18:55] <xananax> ikonia, then shouldn't I install ubuntu on it?
[18:55] <ikonia> xananax: no
[18:55] <xananax> with home on another partition
[18:56] <ikonia> xananax: I wouldn't see much benifit to it, use it as a scratch disk or something
[18:56] <ikonia> xananax: if you want to install ubuntu on it, you better really understand the sizing of your distro and what you want to use
[18:57] <xananax> ikonia, in general, my ubuntu does not exceed 15gigs....But yeah, it's gonna be tight
[18:57] <Jonathanchasr> ikonia: ok, thanks
[18:58] <xananax> ikonia, my current setup is ubuntu on the SSD, taking 10gigs, and home on the 1Tb
[18:58] <xananax> I've been using this setup for a year
[18:58] <xananax> Without problems
[18:58] <xananax> My only problem now is I am forced to use windows for some crappy software I don't care about
[18:58] <xananax> So I need to make space for it
[18:59] <xananax> VMs won't be good enough, nor wine
[19:00] <ikonia> xananax: if you know what you want to do and don't want to change it why are you asking "what should I do" ?
[19:01] <xananax> ikonia, sorry, I didn't mean it that way;  know how much my ubuntu weights, but I don't exactly understand what's better about SSDs and what should be installed on them
[19:01] <xananax> Maybe it's better to leave them as virtual memory disks
[19:02] <xananax> or maybe it profits windows better
[19:02] <ikonia> xananax: you don't understand what's bettter about SSD's - but you know you want to use it ?
[19:02] <ikonia> you can't fit windows on it...so what's the point discussing it
[19:02] <xananax> ikonia, So my best bet is to keep ubuntu on it and install windows on the 1gb, you think
[19:03] <ikonia> no, I don't think that at all, which is why I said "don't use it" - but you seem strongly opinioned to use it for ubuntu, so use it for ubuntu
[19:04] <xananax> no, I'm not strongly opinioned about anything, I'm just a noob and I'm trying to understand what's best
[19:04] <ikonia> well, I've given you my opinion.
[19:04] <ikonia> the SSD's are a better drive, but yours is to small to use organically without planning
[19:04] <xananax> So ideally, I'd use it as a scratch disk, a.k.a, store virtual memory on it? Or linux swap?
[19:05] <xananax> Is this what you mean?
[19:05] <ikonia> that would be a total waste of time
[19:05] <xananax> Then what? Just not use it, or mount it somewhere in my ~ and forget about it?
[19:05] <ikonia> just use it for scratch fast IO needs
[19:05] <ikonia> swap is worthless on it
[19:06] <xananax> Ok I see
[19:06] <xananax> Thanks for the advice!
[19:12] <b3knn> Hi all, I might be able to find the answer here ! I am currently using a Macbook Pro and a Dell latitude laptop both with SSD hard drives ( there are other devices on the network but I am using these in the example). In the past I have setup a Squid3 proxy server and set it up for web optimization, this was when I have a 3mb/s DSL connection and it did help vastly.
[19:12] <b3knn> I now have a 120mb/s fiber connection. Would setting up a Squid3 proxy again help with the page loading speeds keeping in mind the Squid3 server would be storing the cache on a normal spinning HDD?
[19:12] <b3knn> I think I know the answer is but I am open to opinions……
[19:12] <b3knn> I now have a 120mb/s fiber connection. Would setting up a Squid3 proxy again help with the page loading speeds keeping in mind the Squid3 server would be storing the cache on a normal spinning HDD?
[19:13] <b3knn> I think I know the answer is but I am open to opinions……
[19:13] <ikonia> b3knn: where does ubuntu come into this mix ?
[19:14] <b3knn> ubuntu would be running the Squid3 server
[19:14] <ikonia> you should see a reasonable benifit caching from squid
[19:16] <b3knn> more so than just keeping local browser cache on each machine ?
[19:16] <ikonia> yes
[19:16] <b3knn> cool
[19:16] <bubbles_> hello all. I could use some help
[19:17] <b3knn> does anyone here run ubuntu on a macbook pro ?
[19:17] <ikonia> but probably not enough of a benifit to warrent running an additional server
[19:17] <ikonia> and the overhead of maintianing a server for squid
[19:17] <ikonia> how many users will be connecting to the squid service ?
[19:17] <bubbles_> I installed ubuntu on my new pc and there is no graphics. Radeon r9 290x, I know I need to install the drivers, trying to do so from command line
[19:18] <b3knn> it ranges from a few users to about 15-20 max
[19:18] <ikonia> b3knn: is this a home connection ?
[19:18] <bubbles_> I try the command sudo sh ./*.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise but no deb packages are made
[19:18] <b3knn> yes it is
[19:18] <ikonia> b3knn: then I really wouldn't bother with the hassle/overhead
[19:19] <b3knn> however i run 8 publicly available servers on the link.
[19:19] <b3knn> i think i will not bother......
[19:19] <ikonia> that doesn't really have anything to do with it
[19:19] <bubbles_> any clues what I am doing wrong?
[19:20] <b3knn> well used to tunnel all traffic through the proxy server but with a UTM/layer 7 firewall i done really need to anymore
[19:20] <ikonia> this sounds like a bad design for a home connection
[19:20] <b3knn> why does it ?
[19:21] <ikonia> because your on a home fibre conneciton, that is not designed for hosting and your putting complex setups over the top of it to add pointless layer overheads
[19:21] <b3knn> i never said it was a designed home connection
[19:22] <b3knn> its just in my home
[19:22] <Keanu73Ubuntu> Hi
[19:22] <Keanu73Ubuntu> :3
[19:22] <ikonia> I asked if it was a home connection you said yes
[19:22] <ikonia> if you can't understand the implication of that question, then there is little point having futher discussion
[19:23] <b3knn> no need to be like that
[19:23] <ikonia> I'm not being like that - I'm being honest
[19:24] <b3knn> do you work in the industry ?
[19:24] <ikonia> you've said you didn't say it was a home connection when I asked specifically if it was a home connection, you don't understand the difference in connections, so it's a pointless discussion to have
[19:24] <ikonia> b3knn: in which industry
[19:24] <b3knn> IT/networking ?
[19:24] <ikonia> yes
[19:26] <worik> quit
[19:27] <imadori> Hello guys ;) I really need help so if someone would like to help ( i m french )
[19:28] <b3knn> what with ?
[19:28] <Pessimist> !ask
[19:28] <Ssshh> !patience
[19:28] <Ssshh> haha
[19:31] <imadori> Well, I install Lubuntu on Powerbook G4. It lunch, but I have no sound and don t see the volume control > or battery logo, videos also don t work very good. I try to find some update, but there is nothing. Somebody can tell me what to do ? install a new version of Linux more appropriate ? Or something else ?
[19:31] <ikonia> ppc port - pretty much dead and unsupported
[19:31] <ikonia> the later versions less so than the older versions
[19:35] <darth_pony> hey cna anyone here help me out
[19:37] <imadori> ikonia> so there is no issues ?
[19:38] <ikonia> imadori: there are many issues, hence why it's dead
[19:39] <darth_pony> when i try to update ubuntu i get  string of errors that look like this
[19:39] <darth_pony> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/restricted/i18n/Translation-en_US  Cannot initiate the connection to security.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1562::14). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:67c:1562::14 80]
[19:39] <ikonia> that host is down
[19:39] <darth_pony> any help would be appreciated
[19:39] <darth_pony> so basically i just have to wait it out
[19:40] <ikonia> pretty much
[19:40] <darth_pony> ok thank you
[19:43] <darth_pony> it annoying because via the update manager i get a a error that says Requires installation of untrusted packages so that is why i was trying to update via the terminal
[19:43] <ikonia> change to point at a different repo
[19:44] <krlngc> Hi all. I've been looking around to find a solution to my wi-fi problem on ubuntu 12.04. Could somebody help me with that?
[19:44] <krlngc> It works quite fine with ethernet connection
[19:45] <krlngc> I followed some instruction, however they didn't work out and now I've ended up not having the connection at all.
[19:46] <krlngc> anyone ?
[19:47] <krlngc> it's dead here
[19:47] <ikonia> no, it's not
[19:49] <gyre007> guys I need to tunel traffic to DB server over SSH from some hosts
[19:50] <ikonia> why would you need that ?
[19:50] <gyre007> is there any sane way to create this tunnel to like 20 hosts ish
[19:50] <ikonia> gyre007: that doesn't sound a good solution
[19:50] <gyre007> I could spend half a day setting up VPN indeed
[19:50] <gyre007> but theres no time to be a hero
[19:50] <ikonia> it's not being a hero
[19:50] <gyre007> and ssh is a solid and proven protocol
[19:50] <ikonia> it's not implementing bad design
[19:51] <gyre007> its a temporary thing
[19:51] <gyre007> for couple of hours
[19:51] <gyre007> not like forever
[19:51] <gyre007> ...
[19:51] <FloodBot1> gyre007: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:52] <krlngc> can somebody help me with the wi-fi problem I have ?
[19:52] <monipanda_> Ikonia: so you will help me ?
[19:53] <ikonia> monipanda_: help you with what, I've not seen you ask a question, just ask the question and people in the channel will help if they can/want to
[19:53] <monipanda_> Sorry, I m Imadori, I ve been disconnected, I didnt see that my nickname change ;)
[19:54] <ikonia> monipanda_: I told you the PPC port is pretty much dead, so you'll struggle
[19:55] <krlngc> what are the main reasons of wi-fi problems in ubuntu 12.04?  It used to work impeccably...
[19:55] <krlngc> I don't get it. It must be due to the recent updates...I didn't touch it at all
[19:56] <monipanda_> ikonia: you would like to help me to fix it ?
[19:56] <ikonia> monipanda_: not really no, as it's a dead distro
[19:57] <monipanda_> ah...
[19:57] <monipanda_> I see...
[19:57] <monipanda_> ikonia: thank you anyway...
[19:58] <krlngc> damn
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[20:09] <krlngc> can someone help me with the wi-fi connection problem ?
[20:11] <asaf_> he
[20:11] <Beldar> krlngc, Run in the terminal lspci and find the wifi info and include this is your queries to the channel
[20:12] <krlngc> yes
[20:12] <krlngc> Beldar, I can't remember the link for copying codes. Can you help me with that ?
[20:13] <Beldar> !pastebin | krlngc
[20:13] <darth_pony> ikonia, thank you for the advice i got it working perfectly now
[20:13] <Beldar> krlngc, The wifi info is one line, just find it and include.
[20:13] <krlngc> Beldar, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6793556/
[20:14] <krlngc> Beldar, oh ok ,wait then
[20:14] <Beldar> !broadcom | krlngc look here
[20:15] <krlngc> Beldar, I don't get it. It used to work impeccably. The problem must be due to recent updates. I haven't touched any config at all
[20:16] <krlngc> Beldar, anyway thanks for directing
[20:16] <Beldar> krlngc, I have never used a broadcom card, however many have to use that link to get the drivers and get up and working.
[20:16] <Beldar> get it up*
[20:16] <krlngc> Beldar, ok I'm checking it out
[20:17] <asaf_> #direngezi
[20:17] <darth_pony> krlngc, odd my laptops wireless worked right after a afresh install
[20:17] <Beldar> krlngc, Are you forgetting that maybe you have done this before? If you upgraded the distro you have to reload the drivers.
[20:18] <Beldar> darth_pony, Was it a broadcom, and are you even familiar with broadcom cards?
[20:19] <darth_pony> im not sure let me check but yeah i used to have broadcom on ubutu back in the ahrpy days
[20:19] <darth_pony> harpy
[20:20] <darth_pony> lol this s just a intel wireless card
[20:20] <krlngc> Beldar, all I did was simply allowing the ubuntu to install the recent updates. Apart from that I did nothing special. Then I tried to follow some instructions which didn't work out for me. This must have worsened the situtation
[20:21] <krlngc> Beldar, now I 'm reading the page, see it'll help or not . thanks
[20:21] <Beldar> no problem
[20:21] <bobies> HELLO
[20:21] <bobies> pedro
[20:21] <bobies> VOTE FOR PEDRO
[20:22] <krlngc> Beldar, btw ethernet connection simply works fine
[20:24] <Beldar> krlngc, I'm not your best help on this. However I'm noticing a lack of any specific details in your posts is all.
[20:26] <axisys> how do I play xfinity streampix?
[20:28] <krlngc> Beldar, I've followed the instructions and that made the wi-fi work eventhough extremely slow compared to thw ethernet.
[20:28] <krlngc> Beldar, thanks
[20:29] <rtur> Hi, I am currently repackaging a library and it's header file (two separate packages) and am not sure about pkg-config. As I see it pkg-config is used for libraries not for headers, am I right so far ? The previous maintainer put the .pc file for the library into the package with the header and set the library as a dependency. It doesn't really make sense to me, so I want to move it into the library package.
[20:29] <rtur> But thought to ask, just to make sure I ain't missing something.
[20:31] <matthias__> hello
[20:32] <dumb_questions> anyone know of a good C++ channel to get some help?
[20:33] <rtur> dumb_questions: #c++ ?
[20:33] <dumb_questions> tried, keeps sendnig me to ##overlow
[20:34] <dumb_questions> overflow
[20:34] <mallu> HI, I was wondering if anyone use Active directory for Linux service/app accounts?
[20:37] <mallu> Anyone?
[20:40] <yyc_> hi
[20:42] <yyc_> Q: I am using the current ubuntu release, 64 bit. I have setup printer share using internet printing protocol. When I do a port scan, port 22 and 631 are open to the world. 22 is protected with public key auth only and fail2ban. Is an open 631 a security risk, how to mitigate? Thanks.
[20:43] <drags> I'm seeing a umask of 002 for my non root users on precise server. Is this due to the change to pam_umask? What's the best way to enforce a 022 umask system wide (is it ok to still put mask in /etc/profile?)
[20:43] <yyc_> DRAGS: <- unable to answer your question
[20:48] <drags> argh, looks like it's due to USERGROUP_ENAB in /etc/login.defs
[20:49] <drags> there's a var in there to define default UMASK (022), but then this is set to yes, which makes umask effectively 002 for all non-root users
[20:58] <Daan> hi, i'm new to ubuntu
[20:58] <Daan> just downloaded and installed the latest version on a netbook
[20:58] <Daan> but screen was flickering, now blue and text is not very readable, some graphics issue.. is this a known issue?
[21:00] <k1l_> Daan: no, not really a known issue
[21:00] <Daan> Strange lines appearing accross the screen, in menus only every few letters appear...
[21:01] <cweiske> Hi. How does networkmanager configure its dnsmasq instance? /var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf is empty
[21:01] <ProjectBarks> Ok so I have an Hp Pavilion laptop and I wanna delete the HP_TOOlS partition to make room. However I was told I need to make a copy of hp tools to a usb or something in that aspect anyone mind helping me achive this?
[21:01] <ralle> hi.. when setting up a VPN connection, MTU is always set to 1400. I do need another value like 1356. "sudo ifconfig ppp0 mtu 1356" works for one VPN session (until disconnect). Any idea how to set it permanently?
[21:02] <bekks> What makes you think "I do need another value like..."?
[21:02] <bekks> And in the Network Manager, you can set an MTU, as well.
[21:03] <ralle> @bekks: VPN connection does not work with standard value 1400. By searching google I found out that another value (1356) works. My tries confirm this.
[21:03] <tuxy> +OK CHwHT/I6JBA0LW8BL0aR9Ua0W6d1k.7mgSz1Q6bbt.uwCvt0NuwOh/AJePs1UeVdk.80qos.oRaGm0IrBTS1yWXYo1t1n1L1o/n4v1MBGWP14FhCS1Rg3ok.
[21:03] <ralle> @bekks: In network manager I can't change the value because ppp0 is created after VPN connect only.. it does not appear in NetworkManager
[21:06] <jimmt> I just thought of the phrase "ubuntoobad" and I think I'm the first
[21:06] <jimmt> https://www.google.com/search?q="ubuntoobad"
[21:06] <jimmt> anyone heard the phrase before or did I just break new ground
[21:07] <k1l_> jimmt: that is more of a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:07] <crippledmonk> anyone running trust daily?
[21:07] <Toyraztory2> how do i get rid of workspace switcher
[21:07] <k1l_> crippledmonk: #ubuntu+1 :)
[21:08] <Toyraztory2> please can someone answer my question?
[21:08] <nearst> Toyraztory2, workspace is my live saver. lol. try look at settings
[21:08] <crippledmonk> I just dl'd and am going to dd to usb in order to give a spin. any paticular things I should watch out for?
[21:08] <Toyraztory2> how do i get rid of workspace switcher?
[21:09] <k1l_> Toyraztory2: do you mean the icon? do you mean the 2x2 workspaces? etc etc etc
[21:09] <Toyraztory2> i know but i want to do something different
[21:09] <Toyraztory2> yeah the icon
[21:09] <k1l_> !trusty | crippledmonk
[21:09] <Toyraztory2> whats the terminal process?
[21:09] <k1l_> Toyraztory2: look into the options?
[21:10] <crippledmonk> leave
[21:10] <Toyraztory2> ty
[21:10] <tuxy> +OK qrysf1wWHxI1iJYax.iFHRj/RGqKa1IjhoP1pfidy.rjhqn/P6PdT.R91H70aozMt/D7/s41g.fBn0X0qKV/LUW330GDoI..y88PH.bvKMr1zfn91/yHKOG/QJmz6.Z9yuX1MH0o8/7zJ/b.El2S8/MPcES/
[21:10] <Toyraztory2> I tried looking in ubuntu forums
[21:11] <Toyraztory2> no joy i guess
[21:11] <Toyraztory2> ugh i hate this feature so vehemently.
[21:12] <Toyraztory2> thanks anyway
[21:12] <Toyraztory2> bye
[21:12] <k1l_> o_O
[21:14] <dougl> Toyraztory2 - install Kubuntu
[21:15] <bekks> dougl: which has a desktop switcher by default, too.
[21:16] <dougl> bekks, yeah it works different tho right?
[21:16] <ralle> Can someone help? How to set MTU for VPN (temporary ppp0-network device) permanently?
[21:16] <niranjan_> Trying to find best way to get screen of my work machine to my home machine. I normally connect to my work machine using ssh -t -t <public facing> ssh mydesktop
[21:16] <ralle> i think there must be some script which is being executed on ppp up?
[21:16] <bekks> dougl: It works pretty much the same - it offers desktops which can be switched.
[21:16] <niranjan_> Ssh works fine
[21:18] <dougl> bekks, I wonder if the fact there was more than one desktop or the switcher... I use the cube
[21:18] <tuxy> +OK qrysf1wWHxI1iJYax.iFHRj/RGqKa1IjhoP1pfidy.rjhqn/P6PdT.R91H70aozMt/D7/s41g.fBn0X0qKV/LUW330GDoI..y88PH.bvKMr1zfn91/yHKOG/QJmz6.Z9yuX1MH0o8/7zJ/b.El2S8/MPcES/
[21:18] <k1l_> dougl: we will never know, he stopped ranting and quit already
[21:19] <k1l_> tuxy: please stop that
[21:19] <orionk> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[21:20] <dougl> k1l_, yeah that is really what I was poking fun at.
[21:22] <Yahto> Hey
[21:23] <JOGATRES> Hi everybody, I am currently working on a paper about reliability of open source softwares in companies. You can help my searches, by answering this short survey: http://opensource-survey.myesgi.org Some of you have already done it and I do thank you
[21:23] <Yahto> I hope that i can get a bit of help here. i am hving problems with my hotkeys/ fn + f1-12 the problem is that they are realy slow they work but slow. if i turn volume up it takes aout 10 sec to react to it
[21:24] <ikonia> JOGATRES: please don't spam surveys in the support channels
[21:26] <JOGATRES> ikonia, ok my bad, i didn't mean to bother
[21:32] <ikonia> JOGATRES: not a problem.
[21:42] <Guest47114> hello
[21:45] <jeffrey_f> Guest47114: If you have a question, please ask.  State the problem as you see it, what you already know and have tried.  If someone knows the answer, they will respond.
[21:48] <dimsen> Hey Guys .. may someon could assist me with some ipv6 trouble .. ?? Im now on Native IPv6 and IPv4 .. its a real DualStck Connection .. I also have a HomeServer running on it ans via DynDNS I can connect to my server .. via https://cloud.dimsen.de   .. since im running on ipv6 .. establishing a connection seems to be very very slow ..
[21:49] <Guest62801> Hi, guys, I'm having a time figuring out how to get mods, mini clay soldiers, for my minecraft. Does anyone know how? Ubuntu 12.04
[21:50] <dimsen> When trying to reach my server via ping6 I not able to connect ... i guess the Problem will be that my server does not allow incomming connections via ipv6 and the Browser is redirecting them to ipv4
[21:51] <dimsen> Ohh on my Server i have running Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit .. with apache 2.4 ..
[21:52] <new2ubuntu> hello, hope someone can point me in the right direction. is this the place to ask for help with ubuntu?
[21:53] <Beldar> new2ubuntu, What does the channel header say.
[21:54] <jeffrey_f> dimsen: Do you have IPv6 in the apache config??  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ipv6-apache-configuration-tutorial/
[21:54] <new2ubuntu> I'm actually not sure. Where is the channel header?
[21:54] <Beldar> first lines on your irc client
[21:54] <k1l_> new2ubuntu: type "/topic" in here
[21:54] <Beldar> new2ubuntu, Topic for #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[21:55] <new2ubuntu> Ok great. I have three older netbooks, all aspire one's. what is the best image to use for installation and where can i get it? I've read jaunty but I can't seem to find that.
[21:56] <k1l_> new2ubuntu: jaunty is long time outdated
[21:56] <k1l_> new2ubuntu: i would suggest you try Lubuntu since its lightweight desktop for the low power netbooks
[21:56] <k1l_> !lubuntu | new2ubuntu
[21:56] <new2ubuntu> so.. what image should i use? i need a reliable, easy to use setup that will be used by young kids
[21:57] <dimsen> @ jeffrey_f so I did not configured that in apache .. i've read that when apache has no special config for ipv6 or ipv4 .. it'll allow connection from both ipv6 & ipv4 .. ive just configured port 80 and port 443
[21:58] <Beldar> new2ubuntu, All those requests are really opinion based, try precise a longterm release and see if it suits your needs.
[21:58] <new2ubuntu> ok thanks a lot. looking at lubuntu now.. i'll just try it, thanks
[21:59] <jeffrey_f> dimsen: apache listens on an IP address and port.  This is ALL in the apache config.  If IPv6 isn't part of the config, IPv6 requests are ignored.
[22:01] <dimsen> @ jeffrey_f OK.. but that would be a problem. So my IP Adress will change everytime my router is going down for updates .. or other things like that ..
[22:03] <dimsen> @ jeffrey_f or would it be enought when i configure apache to listen to the LinkLocal IP that is assigned to the MacAdress ?? fe80 ... ??
[22:07] <phil-ns> dimsen: why not statically assign an ip to your box that is outside the dhcp scope of your router, and have your router route port 80 to that static ip?
[22:08] <idaniel> guys, I don't know where to go to find help with mods for minecraft on Ubuntu 12.04
[22:08] <k1l_> idaniel: ask in a minecraft channel? :)
[22:08] <dimsen> because i dont have a static IP ..
[22:09] <idaniel> I'll try again, but I was on one and nobody was answering. I'll check again
[22:09] <dimsen> @ phil-ns because i dont have a static IP
[22:09] <phil-ns> dimsen: dyndns ?
[22:09] <dimsen> Yes ..
[22:09] <dimsen> when you type ping cloud.dimsen.de ..
[22:09] <dimsen> you will directly connected via dyndns to my server ..
[22:10] <phil-ns> dimsen: does your router not have the ability to monitor/manage dyndns?
[22:10] <dimsen> but ping6 cloud.dimsen.de doesnt work
[22:10] <pavel_> hola
[22:10] <qin> dimsen: if you change ip (if not too often) overwrite config with new ip and restart apache.
[22:11] <mikubuntu> anybody know where a vibrant knoppix channel might exist? i am having trouble with installing knoppix's 'adriane' os for the blind for my blind friend. any moderator familiar that would be willing to help?
[22:11] <dimsen> My Router is FRITZ!Box 6360
[22:11] <pavel_> solamente hablo, pienso y escribo en español...  que tal a todos...
[22:11] <misdirect> hi, what software would you suggest to create a table similar to this http://www.workhealth.org/strain/jsdef2.jpg ?
[22:11] <phil-ns> but your router is giving a local subnet address to the apacher server, as long as your router is passing port 80 to it, I don't see the problem.
[22:14] <qin> phil-ns: right, I missed something
[22:14] <jhutchins>  dimsen WHat about regular ping?
[22:15] <phil-ns> dimsen: dyndns is handling the outside world getting to your router, your router is passing port 80 to the box running your apache server...we cool with that so far?
[22:15] <dimsen> @ jhutchins regular ping works like a charm ..
[22:15] <jhutchins> dimsen: Chances of a home router or an ISP correctly handling ipv6 are very slim.
[22:15] <phil-ns> you could mod your router with openwrt, or maybe even dd-wrt and it would handle ipv6
[22:15] <phil-ns> of course, your isp has to be passing it along as well.
[22:17] <AnonymoRefuge> hello, i have just dowloaded Ubuntu, and i was wondering, do i have to use an iso program to open it?
[22:17] <dimsen> @ phil-ns yes I got it .. and connecting my server was pretty fast before IPv6 .. so it seems like my router doesnt allow incomming connections and also doesnt forward them to port 80 / 443 on my apache ..
[22:18] <bekks> AnonymoRefuge: you have to use a dvd burning program to burn the iso to a dvd or you can create a bootable usb thumb drive using unetbootin, e.g.
[22:18] <phil-ns> dimsen: what you need is to change the routers dhcp scope, only allow it to hand out address in the range, hmm, lets say <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>. And then, set your apache box to a static ip address of <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:18] <phil-ns> dimsen: you'll have to adjust for your subnet, the 192.168.x. part...it may not be 1
[22:19] <phil-ns> dimsen: and then get into your routers port forwarding section, and forward port 80 to <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:19] <ralle> Can someone help? How to set MTU for VPN (temporary ppp0-network device) permanently?
[22:19] <ralle> i think there must be some script which is being executed on ppp up?
[22:19] <phil-ns> dimsen: and while you're there, check to see if your router can manage the dyndns, most modern routers do.
[22:20] <Akiva-Mobile> Strange question, but seeing I am using an ubuntu font, when it comes to formatting basic letter documents, does Ubuntu or Canonical adhere to a certain guideline?
[22:20] <dimsen> @ phil-ns: Ohh i allready did this .. the ipv4 scope in my router is from <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS> the IP ive assigned to my server ist <IP_ADDRESS> ..
[22:21] <mikubuntu> anybody know where a vibrant knoppix channel might exist? i am having trouble with installing knoppix's 'adriane' os for the blind for my blind friend. any moderator familiar that would be willing to help?
[22:22] <dimsen> @ phil-ns also my router handels PortForwarding very well ..
[22:22] <AnonymoRefuge> bekks: Okay thanks
[22:22] <Sabbie> I have a node with a pretty high load (around 6). I've shutdown almost all the processes, but the load persists. Does anyone know what could be the cause?
[22:22] <bekks> 6 isnt a high load, nowadays.
[22:23] <bekks> Sabbie: Just take a look at top whats causing the load.
[22:23] <Akiva-Mobile> Akiva-Mobile: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/StyleGuide << guess I found it.
[22:23] <Sabbie> bekks: this node has a brother which is now in production, it has a load of less than 1
[22:23] <Sabbie> bekks: I did, there is nothing causing load. In fact, I've killed everything except the neccesary system processes, but the load persists.
[22:24] <bekks> Sabbie: And still, 6 isnt a large load. It just says: "when having only one core, there are 6 processes in the queue to be processed." I bet you have more than one core.
[22:24] <bekks> Sabbie: Can you pastebin the output of "ps -ef" please?
[22:25] <Sabbie> bekks, it has 16 cores. It used to have no load. We just took it out of production and an identical node is now in production with a load of 1.
[22:25] <Sabbie> bekks: will do, one sec
[22:26] <Sabbie> http://pastebin.com/hTxRT67S
[22:27] <bekks> Sabbie: And can you pastebin "ps aux" too, please?
[22:28] <Sabbie> bekks: http://pastebin.com/KxNNBWax
[22:31] <brianboza> Hola
[22:31] <brianboza> sdc
[22:31] <brianboza> xc
[22:31] <pavel_> hola
[22:32] <pavel_> hola brianboza
[22:36] <pavel_> que tal AndresSM
[22:37] <k1l_> !spanish | pavel_
[22:38] <Sabbie> bekks: any idaes? Or should I just reboot the node..
[22:38] <bekks> Sabbie: did you check swap usage?
[22:39] <bekks> Sabbie: Did you check I/O, using sar?
[22:39] <Sabbie> bekks: I've disabled swap
[22:39] <bekks> or iostat, or vmstat?
[22:39] <Sabbie> I checked i/o with iotop, no i/o at all
[22:39] <bekks> I'd not rely on iotop at that point.
[22:39] <bekks> Its a pythong script, doing weird stuff basically :)
[22:40] <jack> Hello world
[22:40] <Guest45038> Hello world
[22:40] <Sabbie> ah ok :)
[22:40] <Guest45038> Sabbie: Hellop
[22:40] <Sabbie> so looking at iostat, what am I looking for? I have 94.27% idle
[22:41] <bekks> Sabbie: what about iowait?
[22:41] <Sabbie> 0.41%
[22:42] <bekks> Sabbie: Can you pastebin "iostat -x" please?
[22:42] <Sabbie> http://pastebin.com/30DCByg3
[22:42] <Balzy> hello! just a quick question: does modprobe loads a module for the running session? If I reboot it won't be reloaded, right?
[22:43] <bekks> Sabbie: Which Ubuntu is that? And did you check the drbd connection?
[22:44] <linus> i followed this tutorial , http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/  ,up to step 3 where i get different options than the listed.what went wrong?
[22:44] <Sabbie> bekks: it's 10.04, we have drbd offline right now
[22:44] <Sabbie> that is, it is in unconfigured state
[22:45] <Sabbie> bekks: iostat -x 1 has everything at 0
[22:49] <Sabbie> btw Balzy: you're correct, modprobe loads a module into the running kernel and after reboot it will not be loaded
[22:49] <Sabbie> Balzy: to have it load after a reboot, add the module to /etc/modules
[22:50] <linus> i followed this tutorial , http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/  ,up to step 3 where i get different options than the listed.what went wrong?
[22:51] <Akiva-Mobile> http://design.canonical.com/brand/B.%20Complete%20Ubuntu%20brand%20guide%20-%20November%202010.pdf  <<  Am I free to copy the formatting used in this? I really like the ubuntu aesthetic, and want to apply it to some of my business documentation.
[22:51] <Sabbie> linus: you're probably running a different operating system than the one pictured in the tutorial
[22:52] <linus> i run ubuntu 13.10
[22:52] <jiffe> so I've used ufw to add a deny entry on line 1 and it doesn't seem to be working
[22:52] <Sabbie> bekks: don't mean to pressure you, but do you have anymore ideas?
[22:53] <k1l_> linus: what is your exact problem there?
[22:53] <linus> i dont get the'run in terminal'option
[22:54] <bekks> Sabbie: I am sorry, I have no further ideas.
[22:55] <Sabbie> bekks: no problem man, thanks a lot for the help anyway.
[22:55] <mdrska80_> linus open normal terminal, go to location and run it
[22:56] <mdrska80_> ctrl shift t....etc
[22:56] <k1l_> linus: yes, easiest and fastest way is to run it from terminal
[22:56] <linus> what should i type?
[22:57] <mdrska80_> cd to location of tht sh
[22:57] <mdrska80_> that sh......
[22:57] <mdrska80_> sorry for my bad keyboaard (a is problem)
[22:59] <linus> mdrska80_, install-depot-multisystem.sh: command not found
[22:59] <k1l_> linus: open a terminal, cd Downloads, chmod +x file, .file
[22:59] <sideup66> can i get some help with a machine running ubuntu 13.10 i believe, im trying to get the gallium radeon rs880 driver to output video through hdmi
[23:00] <sideup66> which it does not seem to do by default
[23:00] <Immatix> If MOTU is responsible for keeping Universe and Multiverse components of the Ubuntu repositories together, does anyone know who to complain to about a package being horribly out of date, including no security patches?
[23:00] <mdrska80_> linus do as k1l_ said
[23:01] <k1l_> Immatix: i would suggest to file a bug
[23:02] <sideup66> i need the hdmi video out
[23:02] <sideup66> how do you set it
[23:02] <sideup66> to output i mean
[23:05] <sideup66> ok nevermind
[23:05] <sideup66> got video working, now how do you set sound to play through
[23:05] <Immatix> k1l_: I'll try that I suppose, hopefully it doesn't fall on deaf ears like other bug reports for this package
[23:08] <sideup66> actually got it, sorry to bother folks
[23:28] <AgusS_ARG> goood night
[23:32] <Immatix> hopefully that will take care of the problem at some point
[23:47] <juzemack> hhhhtgfy
[23:48] <Jacy> would anyone here happen to be able to help me figure out how to set up a three-way boot between windows 7, Ubuntu 13.10, and Kali Linux?
[23:48] <kalekip1> Does anybody know how I can make my terminal transparent?
[23:50] <quadHelix> kalekip1 Edit>Profiles.  make it transparent
[23:50] <kalekip1> quadHelix: I can't access it. It's disabled :/
[23:52] <quadHelix> kalekip1, not sure why that would be....  Info here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/74114/how-to-make-terminal-semi-transparent
[23:55] <kalekip1> quadHelix: The funny thing is that I just stumbled on that there.
[23:55] <kalekip1> But again, I can't access it.
[23:55] <kalekip1> It's disabled for some reason :/
[23:55] <kalekip1> Right clicking worked, but I don't have the "background" tab
[23:55] <kalekip1> I'm on 13.10
[23:56] <DF3D2> !khash 3500
[23:56] <DF3D2> lol wrong chan
[23:57] <kalekip1> OK, I give up. It's late. I will look tomorrow. Ty anyways
[23:59] <quadHelix><PHONE_NUMBER>12315903918001407582


[00:00] <knome> true, see the part between "could be a" and "solution" ;)
[00:00] <Unit193> Just have to remember in a shared account, if pleia2 goes rogue she can still take over the account.
[00:00] <pleia2> I'd rather not go through the pain of getting them to set up xubuntu.org for email forwards for a partial solution, easiest just for a basic shared account and be done with it
[00:00] <knome> yes.
[00:00] <knome> probably
[00:01] <knome> does IS do private (password-protected) email lists?
[00:01] <pleia2> yeah
[00:01] <knome> that might be a solution if we could send email from the same list.
[00:01] <knome> i mean, the list address.
[00:02] <pleia2> mailman overhead makes me gjdksljfdskl
[00:02] <knome> hmm, that's interesting
[00:02] <knome> tell me more :P
[00:04] <pleia2> :P
[00:04] <knome> oh well, just an idea that popped
[00:04] <knome> i'm sure you are sensible with that stuff and won't disappear without saying a word
[00:05] <knome> and helps a lot that multiple people have an access to each outlet as well
[00:05] <pleia2> I hold keys to ubuntu-news and -women shared gmail accounts too
[00:05] <pleia2> oh and california
[00:05] <pleia2> they're all in my thunderbird
[00:05] <knome> i suppose if you want to set one up, then simply go ahead
[00:05] <pleia2> no more workkk
[00:05] <knome> hehe
[00:05] <knome> don't have to
[00:06] <knome> anyway, i'm off for today
[00:06] <knome> good night and see you all later
[00:06] <knome> and thanks for the hangouts and meetings :)
[00:07] <pleia2> good night :)
[01:14] <Unit193> pleia2: Alive?
[01:23] <pleia2> Unit193: yes, the cybermen outside haven't gotten to me yet
[01:24] <Unit193> Oi!  That's much more important than what I had, have any of those hand devices to touch the back of their neck?
[01:24] <pleia2> nope, just hiding
[01:25] <Unit193> http://docs.xubuntu.org/internet-networks.html#network-troubleshooting I'm thinking ping -c6 google.com  would be much better in testing a connection.  I typically check <IP_ADDRESS> first, then check if it's DNS though.
[01:25] <Unit193> Don't make sounds...
[01:25] <pleia2> I'd rather not rely upon a 3rd party for pings
[01:26] <pleia2> (can't imagine google would be too happy either!)
[01:26] <pleia2> I understand that google is less likely to be down, but I don't think it's really appropriate for official docs
[01:29] <Unit193> Alrighty...  (I don't think Google would notice 3 more pings, I'd hazard a guess many people use that method. :P )
[01:29] <Unit193> It's why I asked.
[01:30] <pleia2> of course, it's more the principle of the thing
[01:32] <Unit193> I understood that, even if I'm not fond of it. :P
[01:32] <pleia2> :)
[01:45] <pleia2> https://plus.google.com/+xubuntu/posts
[01:45] <pleia2> winnar
[01:47] <pleia2> (it offered this custom url when I logged in, neat-o!_
[01:51] <Unit193> Is it supposed to look like that?
[01:53] <pleia2> I was referring to having a custom url now
[01:55] <Unit193> Got that part, rather nice.
[02:00] <Unit193> knome: Alright, so added more changes, and one section I know is iffy, but figured I'd add and it can be removed later.  I have it built and online so you can look at it.
[03:49] <Malsasa> Hello, will Xubuntu 13.10 gets its own Proxy Configurator? I coudn't find it on Xubuntu 13.04. But sorry if I'm wrong.
[05:58] <ochosi> Malsasa: depends if someone writes one
[10:47] <knome> pleia2, re: social media: while you were away, we wanted to update the G+ group, but we couldn't catch knew nenc. that speaks even more for a shared account that more people have access to or alternatively simply adding more admins or requiring the non-team-member admins to be reachable within a reasonalbe timespan (1 day at most...)
[12:03] <knome> i think i just set automatic translations from our documentation to launchpad...
[12:04]  * knome whistles
[12:15] <knome> https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs \o/
[12:15] <knome> OI OI
[12:16] <knome> we still need to look at some details... but that's a good start i'd say
[12:19] <elfy> nice one :)
[12:21] <smartboyhw> knome: After mid-June I will translate it into Chinese… (Traditional probably)
[12:22] <knome> smartboyhw, before doing that, check that we've been able to set up things we want to
[12:22] <knome> i mean, i don't want anybody to do things if we are going to waste it...
[12:26] <smartboyhw> knome: I said mid-June:P I have confidence that you brilliant guys can set up all these things before then:)
[12:26] <knome> most probably, but be sure to check out
[12:28] <smartboyhw> knome: I will;)
[15:56] <pleia2> knome: yeah, right before I left the main admin added another g+ admin, I assumed that would help make sure it stayed updated
[15:56] <pleia2> I can add ochosi if we+he wants
[15:57] <knome> if he wants, sure
[16:01] <knome> did you see my mention about the docs?
[16:01] <pleia2> translations?
[16:02] <knome> yup
[16:02] <pleia2> does it work? :)
[16:02] <knome> i suppose it's working.
[16:02] <pleia2> even better
[16:02] <pleia2> thanks
[16:02] <knome> i could test it by translating one string to finnish
[16:02] <knome> i suppose the question now is how we can leverage the .po files on installations
[16:04] <knome> ok, i've translated one string to finnish. it should take some time to update the .po files
[16:05] <knome> oh hmm.  This project series is not sharing translations with an Ubuntu source package.
[16:06] <knome> ah, there we go
[16:06] <knome> "Launchpad can commit daily snapshots of the translations for this release series to a code branch."
[16:06] <knome> i've set that to lp:xubuntu-docs now
[16:07] <knome> i'm wondering if it should point somewhere else or not
[16:07] <knome> probably fine as it is, as long as we push a new version to ubuntu before each milestone or so
[16:15] <knome> hmm, now we are sharing :)
[19:42] <pleia2> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/xubuntu-ringtail-high-end.html
[19:43] <pleia2> should add that and http://news.softpedia.com/news/Xubuntu-13-04-Screenshot-Tour-348563.shtml to a new page for 13.04 press stuff
[19:46]  * pleia2 makes bug so not forget
[22:22] <Unit193> knome: You sleeping/taking a day olff?
[23:30] <knome> Unit193, i'm here


[02:39] <daftykins> that help seeker seems to be a spammer
 I may want to help in any way what is happening in france <-- PM
[22:20]  * rww eyes NIckGreGER in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:20] <rww> (hint: the caps aren't random >.>)
[22:21] <k1l_> its the troll
[22:21] <k1l_> see bantracker for ident
[22:21] <rww> @login
[22:21] <rww> @btlogin
[22:22] <rww> which one is it? BT doesn't have context apart from that they're known
[22:24] <rww> ah, nvm, just looked at all recent -ot bans
[22:24] <rww> seems i missed some fun
[22:25] <rww> @btcomment evasion of a bunch of recent bans, including 69960 in -ot (cross-channel issue), mentioned chimpout and problematic nick, 28d
[22:25] <rww> would help if i added a number
[22:26] <rww> @btcomment 69976evasion of a bunch of recent bans, including 69960 in -ot (cross-channel issue), mentioned chimpout and problematic nick, 28d
[22:26] <rww> @btcomment 69976 evasion of a bunch of recent bans, including 69960 in -ot (cross-channel issue), mentioned chimpout and problematic nick, 28d
[22:26] <rww> @comment 69976 evasion of a bunch of recent bans, including 69960 in -ot (cross-channel issue), mentioned chimpout and problematic nick, 28d
[22:26]  * rww claps
[22:26] <rww> i'm awake today honestly
[22:26] <k1l_> :)


[23:29] <burn_> it is sudo unrar e part1.rar
[23:29] <Dr_willis> You dont need to do sudo
[23:30] <burn_> and it starts scaning for part 2, and ints add part 2
[23:30] <Dr_willis> what are the filennames of the archive anyway?
[23:30] <burn_> diablo 1 :D
[23:30] <burn_> Extracting from Diablo_mendingu86.part1.rar
[23:30] <burn_> Extracting  Diablo 1_mendingu86.iso                                   16%
[23:30] <burn_> Extracting from Diablo_mendingu86.part2.rar
[23:30] <burn_> ...         Diablo 1_mendingu86.iso                                   32%
[23:30] <burn_> and til the part7
[23:31] <burn_> and i opet the dir when 100% is compleated andonly 4mb is unpacked
[23:32] <burn_> or .1mb or 20mb
[23:32] <Dr_willis> could try winrar and wine
[23:32] <burn_> yup
[23:32] <burn_> going to try it right now :d
[23:32] <Dr_willis> that name schemd is  very werird..
[23:33] <Dr_willis> normally its .r## or similer
[23:33] <Dr_willis> you could cat them all together I guess. :)
[23:33] <burn_> how?
[23:34] <burn_> u mean ctrl + x? :D
[23:34] <jhutchins_wk> burn_: You probably don't have all of the files.
[23:35] <snyderios> or some of them have a CRC-error
[23:35] <oobe> unrar e Diablo_mendingu86.part1.rar
[23:35] <oobe> if you already tried that and that doesnt work then you probably have a corrupt rar
[23:35] <oobe> re download the rar where it messes up
[23:36] <oobe> i.e Diablo_mendingu86.part7.rar
[23:37] <burn_> it wast messes up, i can opet any of the archevi with ark and showing me file size 700 mb
[23:37] <burn_> ill try with winrar
[23:38] <oobe> ark uses the unrar binary anyway
[23:38] <oobe> so you will probably get the same result with more detail
[23:39] <burn_> how tu use unp a.k.a unrar all with...
[23:40] <oobe> i already told you
[23:40] <oobe> unrar e Diablo_mendingu86.part1.rar
[23:40] <burn_> ok
[23:40] <oobe> it will unpack the whole thing
[23:41] <burn_> unp has unrar it all :D
[23:42] <burn_> hiphip hurey 3 time for unp :D
[23:44] <burn_> what is the corret name for virtual drives in linux, somentihng like acestoniso or somenthing?
[23:44] <oobe> i just use mount
[23:44] <snyderios> dito
[23:45] <oobe> so im assuming it unpacked ok