[19:10] <Paddy_EIRE_> monk, have you tried superswitcher?
[19:10] <Ashex> aleka I don't believe it should. If it breaks, just delete the directory and restart tb
[19:10] <monk> no
[19:10] <Gin> joanki, you don't have to
[19:10] <monk> what is superswitcher
[19:10] <beni> joanki: you may have as much players as you wish on your system
[19:11] <garu> ali110 r u using 7.10?
[19:11] <nanbudh> anybody tell me why java virtual machine is not there by default?
[19:11] <joanki> ok
[19:11] <ali110> garu : yes
[19:11] <local> Hello
[19:11] <indianlinux> foad, i cant register it says that I need a registration code
[19:11] <Fryguy--> nanbudh: it's non-free
[19:11] <end0r57> riotkittie: thanks for trying... i'll keep playing around and googling.
[19:11] <murkyMurk> indianlinux: that is nothing to do with linux, torrents work exactly teh same in all operating systems
[19:11] <Paddy_EIRE_> monk, http://code.google.com/p/superswitcher/ there is a deb there
[19:11] <Skratz0r_> Who here runs ubuntu on PPC?
[19:11] <local> i'm looking for the visual keybord in gnome, where is it ?
[19:11] <FOAD> indianlinux: well that's got nothing to do with linux
[19:11] <nanbudh> JVM is non free?
[19:11] <aleka> beni, Ashex  - Thanks!
[19:11] <nanbudh> i thought java , especially jvm is free
[19:11] <riotkittie> local: on screen keyboard?
[19:11] <the_darkside_986> there is a gpl java (diablo) but it is probably too big for the CD when they try to put more important stuff on there
[19:11] <indianlinux> but it works in windows, it wont work in linux
[19:11] <Skratz0r_> Omg. No ops? :|
[19:11] <FOAD> maybe registrations are closed there or something, I don't know
[19:11] <murkyMurk> nanbudh: free as in beer, not free as in license
[19:11] <beni> nanbudh: Java is made by a Company (SUN) and is NOT free software
[19:11] <local> riotkittie, yes
[19:12] <end0r57> hmm i thought demonoid was down
[19:12] <kriel> troxor: the one thing i dislike about linux is that it's hard to start. it's like trying to find an edge to pry up. once you get one piece free, it's a lot easier to work from there and learn more and more, but getting that first piece free and learned is hard.
[19:12] <DerDritte> Is there a way to igorne certain file types from getting into the lib in amarok?
[19:12] <Gin> BenC, didn't sun made it open source?
[19:12] <tehlaser> nanbudh: sorta.  There's icedtea, which is a free build of the JVM+class libs.
[19:12] <Paddy_EIRE_> indianlinux, http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[19:12] <nanbudh> beni: i understand. thanks
[19:12] <beni> kriel: where is your problem?
[19:12] <Led_Zepplin> hey, anyone here using Wireless with Ubuntu Gutsy? What tools do you use for scanning for wireless networks?
[19:12] <Paddy_EIRE_> indianlinux, which client are you using?
[19:12] <nanbudh> please tell me then which JVM should i prefer?
[19:12] <murkyMurk> indianlinux: maybe you have a registration cookie that is valid saved in your winows browser?
[19:12] <riotkittie> local: which version are you running? i can tell you how to get to it in 7.10 but am unsure how similar this is in previous versions.
[19:12] <monk> i wonder why it takes a program for linux and it doesnt for windows
[19:12] <Skratz0r_> Does anyone here run Gusty on PPC? (Mac)
[19:12] <tehlaser> Sun is, slowly, opensourcing as much of Java as they can.
[19:12] <indianlinux> paddy firefox
[19:12] <local> iotkittie,  :)
[19:12] <garu> ali110 humn...dont really know what else to do
[19:12] <garu> :s
[19:12] <kriel> beni: that was a general statement about learning linux. right now my specific problem is my xserver isn't working
[19:12] <local> riotkittie, 7.10
[19:12] <Paddy_EIRE_> indianlinux, for downloading torrents
[19:12] <beni> DerDritte: Amarok < rhythmbox
[19:12] <troxor> kriel: higher learning curve, yes; but, the kicker is that there exists an edge :)
[19:13] <the_darkside_986> there are multiple java packages. there is the free package, diablo, but i am not sure if it is in gutsy repositories. it's in freebsd though. and there is the official non-free sun-java packages in the repos.
[19:13] <Paddy_EIRE_> indianlinux, no which client
[19:13] <Skratz0r_> Thats the problem with 1400+ preople. You never get heard.
[19:13] <ali110> garu : well thanks a lot for trying to help that was so kind :)
[19:13] <beni> kriel: Xserver problems suck.. define:"not working"
[19:13] <DerDritte> beni: That's no real help :P
[19:13] <indianlinux> paddy, azureus
[19:13] <stinkyfoot> is there anyway to upgrade from xubuntu to ubuntu 7,10 directly?
[19:13] <Skratz0r_> Does anyone here run Gusty on PPC!? (Mac)
[19:13] <gandalf> in gutsy, i have no sound in quake3 any more, although it worked fine in feisty. any idea?
[19:13] <Paddy_EIRE_> indianlinux, ah ok so what is wrong exactly
[19:13] <garu> ali110 no problem
[19:13] <nanbudh> ubuntu is usre popular. 1474 ppl WOW
[19:13] <DerDritte> beni: And since I'm on kubuntu amarok is native :D
[19:13] <beni> DerDritte: hm I mean Amarok did things i didnt want it to do and now i changed the player and are happier than with winamp
[19:13] <Skratz0r_> 1474 isn't that much... Compared to windows. wich sucks.
[19:13] <indianlinux> paddy, I can access new torrents but older ones do not let me download them
[19:13] <stinkyfoot> s there anyway to upgrade from xubuntu to ubuntu 7,10 directly?
[19:14] <Skratz0r_> Does anyone here run Gusty on PPC? (Mac)
[19:14] <troxor> stinkyfoot: xubuntu is just a superset of ubuntu- you should be able to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:14] <Paddy_EIRE_> indianlinux, have you installed the java runtime environment?
[19:14] <jewbilee> how do i set up a secondary display with gutsy for my laptop?
[19:14] <kriel> troxor: beni: $sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall    puked up with    E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:14] <gandalf> in gutsy, i have no sound in quake3 any more, although it worked fine in feisty. any idea?
[19:14] <riotkittie> local: go to System menu > Preferences > Main Menu.  Left hand column, go down to Universal Access. Enable Onboard & Onboard Settings. this will put them in the Applications Menu. alternately, launch it with ALT + F2 onboard
[19:14] <ali110> i am having problem running my desktop effects , i have installed restricted drivers and glx , what should i do ??
[19:14] <tehlaser> stinkyfoot: I don't think so.  Upgrade to xubuntu 7.10, then install ubuntu-desktop.
[19:14] <Gin>  gandalf for that kind of problem, I suggest searching the forum or make a post there
[19:14] <DerDritte> beni: I think amarok is nice... I'm a bit of a media-junkie...
[19:14] <Morrissey> Hi! I am trying to install kubuntu 7.10 on a 64 bits ASUS A8N-E, with two disks on RAID .. with chipset nForce4 ... graphic card: Radeon X800XL ... but instantly when I press "Start or install kubuntu", it loads the kernel, and then the machine freezes ... no input on keyboard is going trhough or nothing (such as caps, numlock, ctrl-alt-del ...) ... any ideas?
[19:14] <stinkyfoot> tehlaser how do i upgrade to xubuntu 7,10
[19:14] <beni> kriel: Are you doint this from your rescue system or what?
[19:14] <riotkittie> ali110: you should lspci | grep VGA -i in a term and tell me which card you are using.
[19:14] <Paddy_EIRE_> indianlinux, sorry I dont know what you mean.. if its an older torrent the tracker most likely has changed that is if you are trying to use an old torrent file
[19:14] <kriel> troxor: beni: i have a sneaking suspicion that i have conflicting processes going on...
[19:15] <stinkyfoot> and will it include all the things that regular ubuntu has?
[19:15] <DerDritte> beni: gotta go anyway.
[19:15] <local> riotkittie, thx !!
[19:15] <indianlinux> paddy, yes, I can download all .torrent files except the old ones from demonoid
[19:15] <jason0_> Anyone getting this message after a botched install: E: acpi-support: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured, it's preventing me from installing other packages
[19:15] <jewbilee> How do I use an external monitor in gutsy for my laptop?
[19:15] <joanki> Gin: i have a problem now
[19:15] <tehlaser> stinkyfoot: I don't know.
[19:15] <riotkittie> yay. i love being able to help people. <throws confetti>
[19:15] <beni> DerDritte: okay :) But mine grabs the covers automatically and has a clean and simple UI ;)
[19:15] <Rapha_RJ> hi
[19:15] <Rapha_RJ> i am brazillian
[19:15] <joanki> gin: MediaPlayer Connectivity still tries to take over and connect even though i disabled it
[19:15] <Rapha_RJ> have ubuntu a brazillian channel?
[19:15] <rvgate_> Hey, is there an plugin or something alike for the default photoalbum viewer, to create thumbnails from many images at once?
[19:15] <Paddy_EIRE_> indianlinux, also are you pointing the download to go to the same folder as the already downloaded incomplete data is
[19:15] <riotkittie> !br | Rapha_RJ
[19:15] <ubotu> Rapha_RJ: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:15] <Rapha_RJ> ty
[19:15] <Skratz0r_> Does anyone here run Gusty on PPC?!?!? PLEASE
[19:15] <ali110> riotkittie : 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[19:15] <riotkittie> yw :)
[19:15] <joanki> Gin: i uninstalled it
[19:15] <the_darkside_986> i use the GPL diablo-java package in FreeBSD... but i can't find it in Ubuntu. would anyone know why that isn't in Ubuntu repos?
[19:16] <riotkittie> oohhh x200 i am not familiar with. ali110 for curiousity's sake, open a term and type SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz
[19:16] <troxor> kriel: hm.. what about remove --purge, then install ?
[19:16] <Paddy_EIRE_> aint the blackdown the_darkside_986
[19:16] <beni> Skratz0r_: probably.. NOT, otherwise these ppl would answer
[19:16] <kriel> beni: define rescue system... this is a fresh install off of a recent ubuntu install (forgot to check version number) with a text-only install, with apt-get install gdm run after that.
[19:16] <Paddy_EIRE_> *That
[19:16] <garu> !python
[19:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:16] <nortcele> hello folks, i just upgraded to gutsy and my audio stutters now. it worked just fine in fiesty
[19:16] <nortcele> any ideas
[19:16] <kriel> troxor: can you give those to me in a little more verbose format?
[19:17] <Gin> joanki, did you restart firefox?
[19:17] <beni> kriel: why are you making easy things difficult? No chance to just insert the livecd and install from scratch?
[19:17] <nanbudh> firefox is giving me choice of iced tea jre. i assume it is good?
[19:17] <beni> nanbudh: yes, install it :)
[19:17] <troxor> kriel: `apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg && apt-get install xserver-xorg
[19:17] <tehlaser> iced tea isn't exactly stable, but it's free.
[19:17] <ali110> riotkittie : /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: Support for non power of two textures missing
[19:17] <ali110> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
[19:17] <ali110> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :1.0
[19:17] <urthmover> finally mail-notification wirk right for me
[19:17] <flick> where can i download a windows like explorer for ubuntu? the natutilus doesn't seem as powerful
[19:17] <urthmover> works
[19:17] <nanbudh> beni:thanks .started it. now how about flash.
[19:17] <Skratz0r_> garu, join #python on undernet.
[19:17] <beni> flick: LOL
[19:17] <riotkittie> ali110: ew. in that case, i have no idea. which driver are you using? restricted?
[19:17] <urthmover> what do you want a filemanager to do that nautilus can't?
[19:18] <beni> nanbudh: visit youtube.com and you will be prompted to install it
[19:18] <flick> beni, i'm serious :)
[19:18] <kriel> beni: because the cdrom on this computer is slower than sh*t. it took me two hours to install just the text-only version. trying to install over network, and not doing well.
[19:18] <kriel> troxor: trying.
[19:18] <garu> can someone tell me if gutsy gibbon is working fine with wpa encripted wireless networks out of the box?or do I have to change anything?
[19:18] <aleka> Beni, Ashex: I did "/cp /media/sda1/Backup/rsync/habtamu/.mozilla-thunderbird/  /home/habtamu/.mozilla-thunderbird/" and got a message cp: omitting directory `/media/sda1/Backup/rsync/habtamu/.mozilla-thunderbird/'... did it do what I wanted it to do ?
[19:18] <garu> Skratz0r thanks
[19:18] <beni> kriel: no chance to plug it on the net for some hours?
[19:18] <riotkittie> urthmover: the ability to juggle puppies and chainsaws would be nice. thats what i want from a file manager.
[19:18] <troxor> garu: depends on the wireless card; it worked fine for my sort-of old bcm43xx and madwifi based cards
[19:18] <nanbudh> i downloaded the flash installer from adobe but on running it it errors: say 86 x 64 architecture not supported. i am on amd athlon 64.
[19:18] <ali110> riotkittie : yes if  ATI mach 8, Mach 32, Mach 64  is ristricted , i am not sure i am noob to linux
[19:19] <joanki> Beni: know how i can make vlc my default when i click a link in firefox - that it will automatically know to use vlc?
[19:19] <kishan> kriel what is installed presently on the computer
[19:19] <beni> nanbudh: *not* the adobe one, just launch firefox and surf to youtube.com
[19:19] <beni> nanbudh: firefox will prompt you to install it
[19:19] <nortcele> my audio just sounds like crap now and it worked fine before
[19:19] <le> ciao
[19:19] <nanbudh> beni: okays
[19:19] <Flannel> nanbudh: adobe doesn't have a 64bit flash, you need to use gnash
[19:19] <le> !list
[19:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:19] <kriel> kishan: the text-only install off the cd and (supposedly) gdm
[19:19] <beni> joanki: perhaps a setting in vlcplayer, dunno
[19:19] <the_darkside_986> gnash is supposed to work with youtube. but i had trouble using it with games the last time i tried it
[19:19] <ali110> riotkittie : yes if  ATI mach 8, Mach 32, Mach 64  is ristricted , i am not sure i am noob to linux
[19:19] <the_darkside_986> it ran this one game just fine though...
[19:19] <garu> troxor I thought that, if the wireless works fine, it wouldnt matter what kind of encryption u have :o
[19:20] <kishan> do u have a problem installing kriel
[19:20] <kriel> beni: not really. my parents go nutjob on me if i leave my compy on overnight.
[19:20] <riotkittie> ali110: i have no idea why it isnt working.   :|
[19:20] <kkathman> urthmover,  would be kinda nice if you could split panes like konq for instance
[19:20] <ali110> riotkittie : thanks for your try to help
[19:20] <RequinB4> i have a few problems - gimme a shout if you can help with:  sound bad (need sda_hda_intel module apparently); pidgin can't connect; getting my window theme back on gutsy
[19:20] <Do0oDz> hello
[19:21] <Do0oDz> have anyone installed VMware ?
[19:21] <Paddy_EIRE_> gnome-commander is great kkathman
[19:21] <kriel> troxor: puked up with unmet dependencies, saying that xserver-xorg isnt even installed. is there any way to do a copy/paste using only tty lines?
[19:21] <troxor> garu: it's a safer answer than 'of course!' and then have your wireless card not work :) but yes, in general, it should be fine, provided the card's hardware supports wpa
[19:21] <nortcele> RequinB4: im having the same sound problems
[19:21] <wolferine> can someone help me setup my dual display correctly? (im using an Nvidia card) no !triggers are necessary, I have experience
[19:21] <riotkittie> RequinB4: have you modprobed snd_hda_intel ?
[19:21] <Mishaal> does anyone know how to copy ubuntu 7.10 from torrent to nero? i am using Windows just now :(
[19:21] <kishan> http://www.howtoforge.com/unetbootin_windows_ubuntu_fedora check this out if u have problems installing with ur cd room kreil
[19:21] <RequinB4> riotkittie - yeah but fatal doesn't exist error i get
[19:21] <troxor> kriel: depends on your needs `screen` has copy/paste functionality
[19:22] <Burlynn> gutsy is awesome!
[19:22] <garu> RequinB4 is it no sound or low sound?
[19:22] <RequinB4> no sound
[19:22] <wolferine> Mishaal, matters what you downloaded in the .torrent
[19:22] <kriel> Mishaal: do you have the .iso file there? nero should readily accept that.
[19:22] <nortcele> For me its stuttering sound.
[19:22] <the_darkside_986> the torrent should result in an iso file once done downloading. nero should be able to burn the iso if it is not a crippled version
[19:22] <Gin> Mishaal, copy to nero? why would you do that? don't think that makes sense. can you tell us what you want to do?
[19:22] <Paddy_EIRE_> !sound | RequinB4
[19:22] <ubotu> RequinB4: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:22] <kriel> troxor: kay. one sec, $man screen
[19:22] <nanbudh> beni:did u mean gnash swf player?
[19:22] <RequinB4> been through all of that i've had this problem since august
[19:22] <beni> !ati | beni
[19:22] <nanbudh> beni : did u mean gnash player
[19:22] <Skratz0r_> Nearly at 1500, whoever wondered wether we'd top it
[19:23] <TheRepacker> Burlynn, but a little crazy write now with thia new release
[19:23] <Skratz0r_> :D
[19:23] <riotkittie> Gin: i think they want to burn the ISO
[19:23] <beni> nanbudh: yes, install it
[19:23] <nanbudh> okay thanks
[19:23] <garu> RequinB4 is your problem no sound or low sound?
[19:23] <Mishaal> Gin: i want to copy it to CD :(. i searched in google but i couln'd find :(
[19:23] <RequinB4> apparently the problem is i need sda_hda_intel but 'modprobe sda_hda_intel' gives me a fatal error
[19:23] <RequinB4> garu - no sound
[19:23] <riotkittie> Mishaal: you have downloaded the ISO?
[19:23] <troxor> kriel: screen's great, but it's got a learning curve to it too... basically, you'll do ^A <esc>, then move the cursor to the start point.. <spacebar> to set beginning, then same business for the end point.. to paste, ^A ]
[19:23] <kriel> troxor: argh. okay. cant run screen (not installed) and can't install (unmet dependencies)
[19:23] <Mishaal> yes riotkittie
[19:23] <the_darkside_986> if u have the free crippled Nero, then you should do a google search for a free or trial CD burner program
[19:23] <TtyS2> hi
[19:24] <Paddy_EIRE_> Mishaal, use imgburn
[19:24] <Gin> Mishaal, do you know where the ubuntu iso file is?
[19:24] <riotkittie> Mishaal: open up nero,  [i forget where on the menu it is, maybe third of fourth one in?] and select Burn Image
[19:24] <flick> hi... can someone please suggest a more powerful file manager? thanks
[19:24] <urthmover> I like Active@ Iso Recorder (its freeware) for windows
[19:24] <rambo3> RequinB4: snd_hda_intel
[19:24] <kishan> mishaal http://www.howtoforge.com/unetbootin_windows_ubuntu_fedora
[19:24] <kriel> troxor: and for some reason tty2-3 locked up after i ran $logout ...
[19:24] <Mishaal> yes Gin
[19:24] <shooood> mrjoey> hi
[19:24] <Paddy_EIRE_> Mishaal, http://www.imgburn.com/
[19:24] <TtyS2> i am looking for a messenger that can be used with yahoo but in terminal not in gui
[19:24] <RequinB4> rambo3 - if that works ima be happy and annoyed at the same time, hold on
[19:24] <kishan> mishaal sorry about the earlier link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[19:24] <aclark> i just updated to 7.10 and now when i got to desktop effects i get an error saying composite extension is missing, is this something with compiz?
[19:24] <nanbudh> BTW what happened to galeon and gaim?
[19:24] <kishan> check this  how to burn
[19:24] <rambo3> RequinB4: modprobe snd-hda-intel
[19:24] <Paddy_EIRE_> Mishaal, its free small and easy to use
[19:24] <wolferine> can someone help me setup my dual display correctly? (im using an Nvidia card) no !triggers are necessary, I have experience
[19:25] <N[i]X> any1 know how to disactivate the new graphic effects on the ubuntu upgrade?
[19:25] <garu> how do Install jdk 6.3 and netbeans in ubuntu?
[19:25] <Paddy_EIRE_> wolferine, we can determine that
[19:25] <riotkittie> TtyS2: there's finch, which is the text based version of Pidgin
[19:25] <Gin> Mishaal, here is a guide. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#head-5f36c46dbbdd2bd773ae1f5d361be66c6553babf
[19:25] <Mishaal> thanks kishan and Paddy_EIRE_ :)
[19:25] <nanbudh> garu: order a cd from sun
[19:25] <RequinB4> rambo3 - ok that worked, but still no sound
[19:25] <jburd> I'm wondering why performance becomes sluggish on Gutsy after a while?
[19:25] <RequinB4> let me check sound options
[19:25] <TtyS2> riotkittie: thanks
[19:25] <michael_> just wondering if people here actually know how to google...
[19:25] <the_darkside_986> @N[i]X it is under the System > Preferences > Appearance. should be the last tab in that dialog
[19:25] <rambo3> RequinB4: run speaker-test
[19:26] <nanbudh> garu: you could also download from their site
[19:26] <Burlynn> google? whats that? ;p
[19:26] <wolferine> Paddy_EIRE_, want to assist, possibly?
[19:26] <michael_> :)
[19:26] <murkyMurk> N[i]X: there is a menu option under Apperarance
[19:26] <Ashex> aw dang, Aleki left
[19:26] <garu> nanbudh order a cd?why can't it be installed like in anyother distro?like, downloading from sun and then installing it?
[19:26] <Ashex> er
[19:26] <Ashex> aleka, cp -rf
[19:26] <riotkittie> jburd: you runnning compiz?
[19:26] <Paddy_EIRE_> wolferine, sorry I dont use nvidia myself I use ati
[19:26] <michael_> so then try it garu?
[19:26] <flick> hi, where can i get a gui based file manager for linux more powerful than nautilus?
[19:26] <Ashex> aleka, needs to be recursive
[19:26] <aclark> i just updated to 7.10 and now when i got to desktop effects i get an error saying composite extension is missing, is this something with compiz?
[19:26] <RequinB4> rambo3 ok well that might do something - error - missing alsa library
[19:26] <wolferine> thats too bad Paddy_EIRE_ :)
[19:26] <kishan> is there any other search enginge better than google
[19:26] <jburd> riotkittie: Yup.
[19:26] <N[i]X> the_darkside_986, murkymurk: i know, it is set to "none" but i still have effects when windows close and open
[19:26] <RequinB4> though i updated
[19:26] <jburd> riotkittie: Is that a problem?
[19:26] <riotkittie> flick: can you elaborate on more powerful?
[19:26] <nanbudh> garu: ofcourse it can be downloaded. the only thing is if you have a small bandwidth issue
[19:26] <techly> What package is the mouse theme in?
[19:27] <murkyMurk> flick: konqueror
[19:27] <RequinB4> rambo i'll check synapic
[19:27] <garu> nanbudh oh, ok!in sabayon I had to install jdk before installing netbeans, but I used emerge sun-jdk...I dont know how to do it in ubuntu
[19:27] <Paddy_EIRE_> wolferine, although there are many guides on the ubuntu wiki and the ubuntu forums which are very well written
[19:27] <the_darkside_986> @N[i]X did you reset X server? try Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[19:27] <wolferine> Paddy_EIRE_, obviously :)
[19:27] <troxor> kriel: you can always go single user mode, but.. you shouldn't have to to simply install stuff
[19:27] <murkyMurk> N[i]X: weird. even post re-boot?
[19:27] <rambo3> RequinB4: do you have alsa-base installed?
[19:27] <garu> nanbudh nah...no problems with downloading anything here :)
[19:27] <jburd> riotkittie: Does running compiz make the desktop sluggish?
[19:27] <Paddy_EIRE_> wolferine, always check there before asking here
[19:27] <wolferine> Paddy_EIRE_, that is why everyone attempts to try Ubuntu
[19:28] <RequinB4> rambo3 - i did before upgrade double checking now
[19:28] <flick> riotkittie, for instance i would like to see the name of the current folder
[19:28] <kriel> troxor: ew. new problem. startx now pukes up with        could not open default font (fixed)   fatal IO error 104
[19:28] <riotkittie> jburd: it seems to cause sluggishness for some people after a while. i cant say it's your problem, tho.
[19:28] <N[i]X> i tried
[19:28] <RequinB4> rambo-3 alsa-base and all its dependancies that i can tell are installed
[19:28] <N[i]X> but it doesnt work
[19:28] <riotkittie> flick: erm. cant you do that now?
[19:28] <N[i]X> still gives me graphic effects
[19:28] <Flannel> flick: You can turn on the address bar, or whatever
[19:28] <flick> riotkittie, preview tooltips if possible, tree on the left
[19:28] <the_darkside_986> i tried running compiz but 3d games like sauerbraten kept shrinking to windowed mode instead of fullscreen, and it would freeze up. :(
[19:29] <rambo3> RequinB4: ok , try installing oss wrapper , i think its called alsa-oss
[19:29] <flick> riotkittie, oh i can? sorry let me check up on it... i think that's what i wnat most for now (address bar)
[19:29] <troxor> kriel: progress :)  install xfonts-base, or just xfonts-*
[19:29] <Mishaal> kishan: if i follow the first link, will it let me install 2 operating systems directly ??
[19:29] <riotkittie> brb
[19:29] <[Al]> You know how bash knows what filetypes are applicable to the command you're trying to run? Well, how do you add a filetype? Currently, mplayer isn't associated with .divx, meaning I can't tab-complete .divx files.
[19:29] <flick> riotkittie, and the tree view on left
[19:29] <RB2> I applied a GDK theme while FireFox was running (and Use System Colors was unchecked) and now the "Use System Colors" settings has no effect. Any suggestions?
[19:30] <kriel> troxor: oh dear god... 327MB of fonts? O.o;
[19:30] <RequinB4> rambo3 ok installed
[19:30] <murkyMurk> N[i]X: sudo apt-get remove compiz
[19:30] <end0r57> how can i play .rm files?
[19:30] <kishan> mishaal noo u need to install seperatly
[19:30] <Gin> is there a family filter tool for Ubuntu?
[19:30] <michal> hello all
[19:30] <Paddy_EIRE_> !multimedia | end0r57
[19:30] <ubotu> end0r57: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[19:30] <murkyMurk> end0r57: use realplay or maybe mplayer
[19:30] <rambo3> RequinB4:  sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[19:30] <troxor> kriel: I believe -base is the only one you need, but the foolproof way is just to install them all :)
[19:30] <kishan> u donnot need to burn any a cd just run it and u can install directly from net
[19:30] <michal> Hi all
[19:31] <kishan> mishaal what os are u presently on
[19:31] <Flannel> Gin: dans guardian
[19:31] <Tornado> What's the terminal command to change the permissions of a folder or file so I can have write permissions and what not?
[19:31] <Mishaal> good, just now i have Windows, if i follow it i will have ubuntu :)
[19:31] <Flannel> Tornado: Which folders are you trying to give yourself write permission to?
[19:31] <michal> bye all
[19:31] <Mishaal> kishan: stupid Windows
[19:31] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, you should not recommend wubi... it is not officially supported
[19:31] <murkyMurk> Tornado: you will find chgrp and chuser and chmod helpful
[19:32] <kishan> Paddy_EIRE_, its not wubi
[19:32] <Tornado> Flannel: I set up a web server and I need to change the permissions to the www folder and apache folder so i can make changes...
[19:32] <murkyMurk> Tornado: lol, not chuser chown
[19:32] <Tornado> yea i need the chmod command
[19:32] <Tornado> ...
[19:32] <RequinB4> rambo3 - i dont think that command should stall terminal?
[19:32] <N[i]X> murkymurk: same thing
[19:32]  * nortcele has a question about his audio drivers. My audio stutters when i play Second Life. It doesn't do this for anything else. It worked fine on fiesty
[19:32] <Paddy_EIRE_> Mishaal, burn the ubuntu iso you got with imgburn and boot from the cd
[19:32] <murkyMurk> Tornado: man chmod
[19:32] <hacosta> does ubuntu use the suspend2 kernel patch to make it able to hibernate?
[19:32] <kishan> http://www.howtoforge.com/unetbootin_windows_ubuntu_fedora Paddy_EIRE_
[19:32] <rambo3> RequinB4:  no it just outputs to speakers directly binary
[19:32] <kishan> check this out
[19:32] <kriel> troxor: aaand... back to where we started. cannot stat /etc/x11/x
[19:33] <erab> does anybody know how to get the 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless network card to work for ubuntu
[19:33] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, why are you showing me that
[19:33] <localhost> 667
[19:33] <rambo3> !intel-hda
[19:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel-hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:33] <RequinB4> rambo3 - well after i enter my root pw it just stops at a blank - doesn't give me a prompt
[19:33] <Tornado> Ok, I just want to know what to type into terminal to chmod a folder to let me have full read/write priveleges... i've seen the question ansewred in here multiple times, just never bothered to write it down
[19:33] <blackwire83> does anyone have an idea what the UbuCon Germany conference channel is called?
[19:33] <Mishaal> Paddy_EIRE_:  but i want to install it and keep Windows. i'm new to linux :(
[19:33] <Tornado> jesus
[19:33] <Box|UK> i burned the disc as iso was able to view web pages  and browse the web while it installed :)
[19:33] <murkyMurk> N[i]X: !!!!! I am stunned strip out compiz-core compiz-dev and compiz-plugins as well
[19:33] <end0r57> murkyMurk: it says that it is not available, but it is referred to by another package.
[19:33] <kishan> i tried this becoz i had problems with my cd drive i did a direct install from internet its not wubi
[19:33] <rambo3> RequinB4:  ctrl+c
[19:33] <RequinB4> ok then done :P rambo3
[19:33] <cox> i've got this problem with 'Movie Player' divx codes, it either doesnt show anything at all or or shows mixed up video
[19:33] <Box|UK> Mishaal:  im new to linux if you have one hdd then  ubuntu will partion for you
[19:33] <RequinB4> *brain fart
[19:34] <cox> does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:34] <kishan> Mishaal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot follow this to dual boot
[19:34] <Paddy_EIRE_> Mishaal, I never said you had to get rid of windows
[19:34]  * nortcele sighs
[19:34] <Tornado> What's the terminal command to chmod a folder so I can have write priveleges for it!?
[19:34] <Mishaal> nice nice Box|UK. will try that just now ;)
[19:34] <RoC_MasterMind> !codecs | cox
[19:34] <ubotu> cox: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:34] <kkathman> Paddy_EIRE_,   gnome-commander is a bit better, but not too configurable (i.e. colors, background,) and you can only have the two panels :(
[19:34] <kriel> troxor: im gonna try rebooting. all these dead consoles are starting to bug me.
[19:35] <troxor> kriel: http://pastebin.ca/744692 <- that's all my x* packages
[19:35] <Tornado> Seriously, not a single person knows how to chmod a folder!?
[19:35] <Tornado> not one person...
[19:35] <murkyMurk> end0r57: you need to get realplayer direct from realplayer although IIRC there is an 'Ubuntu way'. Just follow realplayers instructions and it'll work
[19:35] <kkathman> Tornado,  man chmod
[19:35] <kriel> troxor: ... how exactly am i supposed to open that on a cli only system?
[19:35] <flick> can i find orphan libraries (on which no packages depend anymore) for removal in the synaptic package manager?
[19:35] <murkyMurk> Tornado: sure I do, it's you that doesn't
[19:35] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, this is a much better guide http://apcmag.com/node/5162/
[19:35] <Mishaal> will it work with XP kishan ?
[19:35] <troxor> kriel: links or lynx?
[19:35] <Tornado> murkyMurk: Yea, that's why i'm asking... I type "chmod" then what?
[19:35] <kamelot> can someone help me with something?
[19:35] <Paddy_EIRE_> Mishaal, http://apcmag.com/node/5162/  <-- follow this and choose which one is right for you
[19:36] <Tornado> man i thought this was a help channel, people just say i know how to do it but you dont... real nice.
[19:36] <ompaul> !anyone | kamelot
[19:36] <ubotu> kamelot: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:36] <kishan> mishaal best thing is burn the cd and try
[19:36] <kkathman> Tornado,   type    man chmod   and it will tell you the options
[19:36] <murkyMurk> Tornado: that depends entriely on what you want to do,,type man chmod
[19:36] <kriel> troxor: ... i completely forgot about text-based browsers.
[19:36] <vocx> Tornado, what's your real question? Changing permissions without know its consequences might be bad.
[19:36] <N[i]X> murkymurk: same thing
[19:36] <zewb> lol
[19:36] <Ashfire908> what will happen if i'm downloading the updates to upgrade to 7.10 and the internet connection resets?
[19:36] <sutabi> I am having a lil issue. I clicked update to 7.10 and now the update manager froze and has been for the last 30 mins, should I kill it?
[19:36] <Box|UK> zewb:  wtf u doing?
[19:36] <kamelot> if i upgrade to gutsy gibbon on my laptop or pc openftd and my internet connection are slow and openftd don;t work anymore
[19:36] <magnetron> !ops | zewb
[19:36] <ubotu> zewb: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[19:37] <vocx> ompaul, DCC send
[19:37] <murkyMurk> Tornado: but probably chmod 777 <dir> -R is what you want ;-)
[19:37] <lauchazombie> does some has managed to fix azureus?
[19:37] <kkathman> Tornado,  if you just wanna change the folder thats one thing - if you want to change everything in it thats another
[19:37] <kishan> mishaal its very easy u can do it
[19:37] <lauchazombie> does some has managed to fix azureus?
[19:37] <shooood> anyone know how to partition a new hard disk ?????????????
[19:37] <RequinB4> rambo3 anything else?  I'm stumped at this point if modprobe fails me
[19:37] <Tornado> kkathman: I want to change a folder so I have full write/read priveleges to it and everything in it... been using linux for 2 days... man
[19:37] <murkyMurk> N[i]X: i'm at a loss, with out compiz you shouldn't have any effects
[19:37] <troxor> sutabi: before you do, check if there are any defunct dpkg processes, by doing `ps aux | grep dpkg`
[19:37] <lauchazombie> shooood, try with gparted is very easy
[19:37] <lauchazombie> does some has managed to fix azureus?
[19:38] <Box|UK> Mishaal:  i burned the live cd as an iso  went to bios set bios to start from cd and  enjoyed the experience
[19:38] <kishan> mishaal donnot get confused ok first burn the cd ok
[19:38] <murkyMurk> Tornado: chmod 777 <directory> -R
[19:38] <jolson> josys36
[19:38] <nanbudh> guys i now need a shockwave player. please suggest which one to install
[19:38] <sutabi> troxor:  sutabi    8129  0.0  0.0   2884   748 pts/0    R+   11:38   0:00 grep dpkg
[19:38] <N[i]X> murkymurk: i dunno its just when i open a window or close one
[19:38] <kkathman> Tornado,  ok, great, you should learn the "man" command... it will give you "help" on any line command   use it with chmod and type   man  chmod  at a terminal line and you'll see
[19:38] <Tornado> murkyMurk: Doesn't work...
[19:38] <lauchazombie> does some has managed to fix azureus?
[19:38] <Ashfire908> what will happen if i'm downloading the updates to upgrade to 7.10 and the internet connection resets? will it hurt my system?
[19:38] <unimatrix9> Seveas
[19:38] <stemount> there isn't shockwave for linux is there?
[19:38] <Mishaal> yesssssssssss kishan ;)
[19:38] <nn> time to upgrade to gutsy soon, huh?
[19:38] <rambo3> RequinB4:  whats in : ls /proc/asound/card0
[19:38] <kishan> nanbudh, i am sorry no shockwave in ubuntu
[19:38] <N[i]X> murkymurk: and it gives me problems when scrolling down a webpage
[19:38] <troxor> sutabi: ok, that's good- you probably should give it some time, especially if it's writing to disk..
[19:38] <kkathman> Tornado,  and of course, remember if you use chmod you'll need to precede with  sudo
[19:39] <nn> stemount: its called flash iirc
[19:39] <nanbudh> kishan: its been like this since 2 years now :<
[19:39] <manopulus> hi. installed xubuntu 7.10 and totem does not play mp3 and almost all videos. what i have to install to play?
[19:39] <kishan> u can try it wine but not sure nanbudh
[19:39] <rambo3> RequinB4:  whats in : cat /proc/asound/card0/
[19:39] <nn> Ashfire908: no, you can restart the download
[19:39] <nn> Ashfire908: it wont install packages until they're all downloaded
[19:39] <nanbudh> is there no alternative?
[19:39] <RequinB4> ls /../ is "codec#0  id  oss_mixer  pcm0c  pcm0p  pcm1p
[19:39] <RequinB4> "
[19:39] <sutabi> troxor: ok thanks
[19:39] <murkyMurk> Tornado: apols chmod -R 777 <directory>   getting my -R mixed up
[19:39] <wolferine> how can you display a current screens resolution ?
[19:39] <Paddy_EIRE_> nanbudh, no
[19:39] <RequinB4> rambo3 i can pastebin it
[19:39] <vocx> !man > Tornado
[19:39] <nanbudh> my nephew needs it for online games
[19:39] <kishan> nanbudh, i think no......virtualize windows may be lol
[19:40] <kamelot> dus anybody else have a bad internet connettion with gutsy gibbon
[19:40] <percival> hellow --- I am trying to test Ubuntu on my gateway tablet cx2724, but it freezes at 71% loading from the live CD, can anyone tell me were to get info on how to solve this?
[19:40] <kkathman> murkyMurk,   he'll need to use sudo I imagine
[19:40] <Paddy_EIRE_> nanbudh, there is no alternative
[19:40] <RequinB4> rambo3 cat command says ...: is a directory
[19:40] <Ashfire908> nn: ok. do i have to manually restart do-release-upgrade?
[19:40] <nanbudh> paddy_eire: thats too bad
[19:40] <vocx> nanbudh, it is very sad that your nephew needs it for online games...
[19:40] <lauchazombie> does some has managed to fix azureus?
[19:40] <lauchazombie> does some has managed to fix azureus?
[19:40] <rambo3> RequinB4: no need , there should be snd-intel-hda there . so its not loading for the card
[19:40] <kom0dor> Is it ok to install a feisty package on 7.10?
[19:40] <RoC_MasterMind> percival, reboot, then choose "check CD for defects".
[19:40] <lauchazombie> sorry the flood does some has managed to fix azureus?
[19:40] <kishan> nanbudh, many good games in ubuntu toooo ask him to try those
[19:40] <jdong> lauchazombie: please stop
[19:41] <kom0dor> I know it messes things up the other way, not sure if it'd be ok
[19:41] <aleka> How do I disable the blue pop up boxes (notification boxes) that come up in Gutsy??
[19:41] <percival> I did it also freezes at 71% when checking cd
[19:41] <jdong> lauchazombie: all progress is detailed on the launchpad bug report, and asking 3 times in 10 seconds does not help
[19:41] <Paddy_EIRE_> nanbudh, if you are experienced a little and have a powerful enough system you can set up windows 2000 or something in a Virtual Machine if that is all he requires
[19:41] <kst-> hey i'm thinking about upgrading from feisty to gutsy, actually i already UPGRADED but now i want to do a clean reinstall. I got my home partition separated but now I wonder if I should remove/uninstall anything before formatting + installing a clean new gutsy install?
[19:41] <lauchazombie> jdong, sorry
[19:41] <nanbudh> hmm..i will have to now. i was somehow thinking that 7.10 would have something about it. but one cannot have everything
[19:41] <RequinB4> rambo3 fyi i have two mixers, ALSA and OOS, not quite sure atm which is 0 and 1
[19:41] <rambo3> RequinB4: check : dmesg | grep  hda
[19:41] <lauchazombie> jdong, i dont want to use automatix so im kinda frustrated, again sorry i know the nettiquete
[19:41] <kst-> !upgrade
[19:41] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:41] <kom0dor> heh
[19:42] <RoC_MasterMind> kst-, if you are doing a clean uninstall, you don't need to change anything ...it will get wiped out.
[19:42] <carlos> spanish people
[19:42] <jdong> lauchazombie: you can manually unpack Azureus from their site, to your home directory, and remove ~/.azureus and it runs perfectly
[19:42] <Paddy_EIRE_> nanbudh, http://www.virtualbox.org/
[19:42] <carlos> please
[19:42] <vocx> kst-, when you do clean install you format the partition so no point in removing or adding anything to it.
[19:42] <astro76> !es | carlos
[19:42] <ubotu> carlos: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:42] <lauchazombie> jdong, thanks
[19:42] <kst-> RoC_MasterMind does that include stuff like compiz settings etc? i already have it since feisty..
[19:42] <jdong> lauchazombie: the packaging in Ubuntu is not fixed yet, and few developers have a clear understanding of exactly what's wrong with it
[19:42] <flake> for kde/compiz, should I go with screenlets, adesklets, gdesklets, ..  ?
[19:42] <kst-> vocx some settings are saved in my $HOME i think?
[19:42] <nanbudh> paddy_eire: thanks ill check it out
[19:42] <kishan> nanbudh, if u can try virtualization of windows
[19:42] <RequinB4> rambo3 in terminal that gives no output
[19:42] <rambo3> RequinB4: check : dmesg | grep  intel
[19:42] <lauchazombie> jdong, is a really old bug i think it is since edgy
[19:42] <vocx> kst-, ...of course you do not need to format $HOME...
[19:42] <XXer> Anyone know if I can use Ghost to back up ubuntu and if not, some other app that will do the same thing
[19:43] <RoC_MasterMind> kst-, your personal settings are stored in your home directory
[19:43] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, better the other way around
[19:43] <Omnius> G'day, i edited my menu and now the drop down app menu is empty and the menu manager wont start
[19:43] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, have windows as the guest
[19:43] <rambo3> RequinB4: it should . "dmesg |grep intel " without ""
[19:43] <kst-> yeah RoC_MasterMind and that does include compiz stuff, doesnt it? what else is there that might possibly ruin a new install?
[19:43] <flick> how can i turn on an address bar, and have a tree view on the left on Nautilus?
[19:43] <RequinB4> rambo3 - copyright msg, then next line "intel_rng: FWH not detected"
[19:43] <jdong> lauchazombie: not entirely accurate, I'm a bit involved with the packaging and it's been on-and-off working/not-working
[19:43] <kishan> Paddy_EIRE_, i donnot have much exper in virtualiation becoz i have low ram now if i get a new one i will try it out that
[19:43] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, http://www.virtualbox.org/
[19:44] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, great stuff
[19:44] <jdong> lauchazombie: recently it seems like something is wrong with the GNU GCJ java stack that is producing incorrect Java bytecode, and none of us around here really understand that toolchain...
[19:44] <EminX> in 7.10, can't install vga drivers
[19:44] <flake> anyone type anything to me
[19:44] <lauchazombie> jdong, thanks for the help
[19:44] <kishan> Paddy_EIRE_, can i run it on 512 ram
[19:44] <vocx> !patience > flake
[19:44] <jdong> lauchazombie: looks like it has to be compiled with Sun Java to work, but Ubuntu policies currently do not allow for that
[19:44] <lauchazombie> jdong, i had read that changin the machine may work in some cases
[19:44] <astro76> flick, 1) click the icon to the left of the location/button bar to toggle, 2) click Places and you will get a dropdown menu, select Tree
[19:44] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, well it would run.. but might be quite sluggish
[19:44] <murkyMurk> flake: anything
[19:44] <kom0dor> if I install a feisty package on 7.10 will it hose dependencies?
[19:44] <John117> Hey everybody.  I'm installing Ubuntu on my XP machine as a dual boot.    IF i want to uninstall ubuntu later, how do I remove GRUB?  Is there a tutorial to read?
[19:45] <astro76> kom0dor, you don't want to do that
[19:45] <EminX> The software source for the package
[19:45] <EminX>    nvidia-glx
[19:45] <EminX>  is not enabled.
[19:45] <RoC_MasterMind> kst-, you delete your personal settings...they are all stored in named directoryies prefixed with a dot (normally hidden).  if you view the "Hidden" files/directories in your home directory you'll see things like ".mozilla"
[19:45] <kom0dor> alright, did it the other way once and regretted it, the app isn't open source :/
[19:45] <gunashekar> can someone help? I am getting "dependency problems " error when i install updates ,
[19:45] <else> anyone using pureftpd with virtual users? can't login at all, always getting "530 authentication failed"
[19:45] <vocx> kom0dor, what do you want to install that is not available?
[19:45] <flick> astro76, thanks a lot!
[19:45] <jdong> lauchazombie: unfortunately not in this case... last release GCJ worked but Sun Java crashed, this release BOTH crash.
[19:45] <flake> sorry, think Pideon is dropping text
[19:45] <kishan> did u try it Paddy_EIRE_
[19:46] <nn> Downloading DVD image.. if i want to install BOTH servers and desktops from one CD, do i really need both server and desktop images?
[19:46] <rambo3> RequinB4: ok test this without "" : "sudo modprobe -r snd-intel-hda && sudo modprobe snd-intel-hda && dmesg"
[19:46] <claudio75> hi to all...i'm italian and i've tried so many times to solve my problem in ubuntu-it irc channel but without results...so i'm here hopeing that you'll solve it...i've bought my fourth webcamera...and it's not working as the other 3....it's a trust wb-1200p ...it should be ubuntu compatible and it should work with spca5xx driver.....but it's not working....please me help me!!! ah...i'm sorry for my poor english
[19:46] <murkyMurk> John117: there would be no need to but if you wanted to then you would just reinstall the XP boot manager to the MBR which is clearly detailed on ms webby
[19:46] <lauchazombie> jdong, in this kind of situation i fell bad for not know how to code and help...well bug reporting is a good way to help too :P
[19:46] <astro76> nn, it's all on the DVD
[19:46] <EminX> any help, cant enable vga driver
[19:46] <kom0dor> ah, actually nevermind, found a .deb for it from debian repos.
[19:46] <astro76> nn, but with the CDs, yes  you would need both
[19:46] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, yeah.. I run win 2000 in a vm with 1gb ram and amd turion 64
[19:46] <Grahik-> gnome-look down or do i have a problem with my connection ?
[19:46] <twoshadetod> what is a good app to do wordpress posting from your desktop?
[19:46] <jdong> lauchazombie: we all feel a bit bad about it... we don't really understand what is going on, a lot of our Azureus package is based off Fedora who has it working with GCJ, but their GCJ is slightly different than ours....
[19:46] <gunashekar> !dependency problems
[19:46] <RequinB4> rambo3 - "FATAL: Module snd_intel_hda not found."
[19:46] <RequinB4> rest fine
[19:46] <sherl0ck>  im looking for a app in gnome that sits in the Panel to control your ssh connections??? it was in lifehacker.com blog, now i cant find what it is called??
[19:47] <wolferine> xrandr Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". RandR extension missing <-- what does this error mean, and how can I repair?
[19:47] <vocx> nn, and besides usually you can turn a server into a desktop but you need to install manually other applications.
[19:47] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, although it was just for fun really I dont use windows at all anymore
[19:47] <claudio75> hi to all...i'm italian and i've tried so many times to solve my problem in ubuntu-it irc channel but without results...so i'm here hopeing that you'll solve it...i've bought my fourth webcamera...and it's not working as the other 3....it's a trust wb-1200p ...it should be ubuntu compatible and it should work with spca5xx driver.....but it's not working....please me help me!!! ah...i'm sorry for my poor english
[19:47] <Minnozz> what is 'sit0' ?
[19:47] <Paddy_EIRE_> kishan, going on 2 years
[19:47] <rambo3> RequinB4: yeah it should be snd-hda-intel by bad
[19:47] <jdong> lauchazombie: long story short it's a complicated situation and there doens't seem to be an easy fix in sight, otherwise we would've fixed it already. Just subscribe to the bug report and you'll get the latest status updates
[19:47] <RequinB4> rambo3 - heh ok
[19:47] <rambo3> RequinB4: ok test this without "" : "sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel && dmesg"
[19:47] <lauchazombie> jdong, is there communitacion bewteen the teams of diferent distros?
[19:47] <Ghone[fark]> Any ubuntu gurus willing to help an idiot do the feisty-gutsy update?
[19:47] <Paddy_EIRE_> !ask | Ghone[fark]
[19:47] <ubotu> Ghone[fark]: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:47] <budmang> My intel sound all works
[19:48] <RequinB4> FATAL module is in use
[19:48] <claudio75> rambo3: are you able to help me?
[19:48] <RequinB4> rambo3 O.o
[19:48] <budmang> If anyone is having issues. toshiba laptop.
[19:48] <murkyMurk> Minnozz: an ethernet connection
[19:48] <wolferine> xrandr Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". RandR extension missing <-- what does this error mean, and how can I repair?
[19:48] <lauchazombie> jdong, i remember mepis didnt had that bug and they use the ubuntu repos
[19:48] <Paddy_EIRE_> !anyone | budmang
[19:48] <ubotu> budmang: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:48] <claudio75> hi to all...i'm italian and i've tried so many times to solve my problem in ubuntu-it irc channel but without results...so i'm here hopeing that you'll solve it...i've bought my fourth webcamera...and it's not working as the other 3....it's a trust wb-1200p ...it should be ubuntu compatible and it should work with spca5xx driver.....but it's not working....please me help me!!! ah...i'm sorry for my poor english
[19:48] <neosix> Hi !!!
[19:48] <nn> astro76, vocx: I was mainly curious if there's any difference in the actual packages and what not
[19:48] <astro76> !repeat | claudio75
[19:48] <ubotu> claudio75: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:48] <vocx> !repeat > claudio75
[19:48] <Ghone[fark]> I'm not sure I have so much a question as need of handholding.  The feisty-Gutsy automatic upgrade didn't work, so I tried to force it and broke something.
[19:48] <neosix> How can I open port 6112
[19:48] <jdong> lauchazombie: Mepis was based off Dapper Drake
[19:48] <hunternet93> Is there a way to suspend to disk on an iBook?\
[19:48] <John117> murkymurk Thanks!  What do you mean there would be no need to?
[19:48] <jdong> lauchazombie: as I said, it *used* to work.
[19:49] <rambo3> !quickcam
[19:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quickcam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:49] <jdong> lauchazombie: now Mepis is based off Debian, and Debian compiles with Sun binary Java
[19:49] <claudio75> ok...i'm waiting
[19:49] <EminX> The software source for the package    nvidia-glx   is not enabled
[19:49] <ompaul> neosix, run a service on it
[19:49] <lauchazombie> jdong, very frustrating
[19:49] <EminX> The software source for the package    nvidia-glx   is not enabled
[19:49] <XXer> Im putting in a new HD and would like to know the best way to move Ubuntu to the new drive
[19:49] <max7> Hello, I have compiz with desktop cube. I wish to set 4 desktops instead of 2. I already set 4 columns in Workspace Switcher Preference but there is no effect even after reboot.
[19:49] <harisgr> hi
[19:49] <Ghone[fark]> Maybe I should undo what I broke first and then give you guys a proper question?
[19:49] <astro76> nn, server CD has server packages which desktop CD doesn't
[19:49] <vocx> nn, there is a kernel for servers, and the server has packages like Lamp to deploy mail servers and stuff.
[19:49] <Paddy_EIRE_> Ghone[fark], do a fresh install in my opinion
[19:49] <beni> !info quickcam | claudio75
[19:49] <ubotu> claudio75: Package quickcam does not exist in gutsy
[19:49] <jdong> lauchazombie: indeed. well you have a workaround for now, while we try to find the correct solution
[19:49] <Paddy_EIRE_> Ghone[fark], I dont use the upgrade option ever
[19:49] <riddareralf> For two days have I tried to get my opensuse 10.3 work and I'm sick of it. Show me the light
[19:49] <hunternet93> Mass chaos.
[19:49] <neosix> Can anybody help me? I want to open port 6112
[19:50] <John117> murkymurk  I've been playing with Ubuntu and XP dual boot on my laptop.  I reached a situation where grub just continually restarted the computer.  The Ubuntu install did not complete and I couldn't boot into anything at all.  I just wanted to make sure if that happened, i could recover with another boot loader.
[19:50] <beni> riddareralf: go find the button! :)
[19:50] <kishan> riddareralf, sorry this is ubuntu channel
[19:50] <murkyMurk> John117: grub would carry on booting windows if you reformatted the linux partition..it doesn't rely on linux to work. But FIXMBR is the windows command you would use to overwrite Grub
[19:50] <riddareralf> beni, which distro? Dvd feisty?
[19:50] <EminX> do you know another irc room for 7.10 that can help me solving that problem with vga drivers
[19:50] <Topshotta> Anyone know how to edit the kernel config?
[19:50] <Minnozz> I am following a guide to let my mobile phone connect with my broadband internet, but I need to put an entry in /etc/network/interfaces . How do I know the name of the bluetooth dongle? ('name' as in 'wlan0', 'eth1' etc)
[19:50] <hunternet93> are you behind a router?
[19:50] <vocx> claudio75, how do you know the cam uses that driver? Have you tried other distributions or read something about it?
[19:50] <claudio75> ubotu: i'm useing feisty
[19:50] <John117> murky murk okay!  Thanks man.
[19:50] <beni> neosix: You cant just "Open a port"! An Open Port stands for a Service / a Program listening on that specific Network-"Door" of your computer. So what do you really want to do?
[19:50] <lauchazombie> jdong, again thanks
[19:50] <MTughan> Anyone know what would be faster? Upgrading Feisty to Gutsy from the update manager, or reinstalling from an ISO?
[19:50] <wolferine> xrandr Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". RandR extension missing <-- what does this error mean, and how can I repair?
[19:50] <astro76> riddareralf, get the lastest 7.10 from www.ubuntu.com
[19:50] <vocx> !bot > claudio75
[19:51] <Veinor> Is anyone else having issues with openoffice?
[19:51] <flick> gnome rocks :)
[19:51] <riddareralf> astro76: will do
[19:51] <claudio75> vocx: yes...i've read it's supported
[19:51] <riddareralf> but I need a ftp
[19:51] <Topshotta> beni: do you know how to edit the kernel config?
[19:51] <rambo3> RequinB4: ?
[19:51] <vocx> wolferine, did you read the release notes on drivers?
[19:51] <Paddy_EIRE_> MTughan, whether its faster or slower a clean install is always better
[19:51] <astro76> riddareralf, there is a full list of mirrors linked after you click download
[19:51] <neosix> beni: I need to open port 6112 for Warcraft3
[19:51] <beni> riddareralf: ubuntu linux is comparable to windows xp in terms of usability. just download the LiveCD at http://ubuntu.com and put it into you cdrom drive and you may test it, and if you wish even install from this very cd
[19:51] <kishan> MTughan, reinstalling is better
[19:51] <TheRepacker> John117 there is a great page on dual booting and recovery, do a google search "dual boot pigpond"
[19:51] <flick> riotkittie, nautilus rocks :) thanks for pointing out i can do what i want in nautilus too... i think i assumed things too quickly, i apologize for that
[19:51] <astro76> riddareralf, you would have much better results with bittorrent in these first few days after release
[19:51] <vocx> claudio75, and where did you read that? The store that sold you? Get your money back.
[19:51] <beni> Topshotta: sorry, no
[19:52] <MTughan> Okay, will do then. It's a VM, so using an ISO isn't too hard. Thank you very much.
[19:52] <beni> neosix: okay, so you need to open the port 6112 in order to play WC3 in the battlenet?
[19:52] <Veinor> I'm using a dark theme and openoffice seems to crash every time I launch spellcheck
[19:52] <RequinB4> rambo3 - oh sry, msg before that - output is "FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use."  to which i went O.o
[19:52] <nn> astro76: seems like they'd just include the metapackages on both and use something like tasksel to allow one disk to do both ;)
[19:52] <MTughan> And I know a clean install is always better, definitely for Windows. :P
[19:52] <TheRepacker> John117 actually search "dual boot bigpond"
[19:52] <function1> so, isnt networkmanager supposed to have WPA EAP support now?
[19:52] <miguel572con> hello
[19:52] <neosix> beni: yes
[19:52] <claudio75> vocx: other friends have the same webcam....and it works in ubuntu
[19:52] <Omnius> i edited my menu and now the drop down app menu is empty and the menu manager wont start
[19:52] <kishan> Mishaal, what happeend did u got the iso working
[19:52] <wolferine> vocx, URL ?
[19:52] <riddareralf> Does it matter if I have ther dvd or cd version?
[19:52] <Raven80> how do i get fusion icon in ubuntu 7.10? help
[19:52] <EminX> beni:  can u help me
[19:52] <claudio75> it works for all
[19:52] <RoC_MasterMind> riddareralf, no
[19:52] <vocx> wolferine, what a lazy dude... here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710
[19:52] <forsaken> i have a USB drive and it is being mounted read only, it is a vfat partition on a brand new ubuntu gutsy install, anyone know howt o make it writeable?
[19:52] <kishan> riddareralf, what ever suits u
[19:52] <riddareralf> Why not? Dvd is usually more powerful
[19:53] <end0r57> i can't get realplayer to work in firefox for the life of me
[19:53] <ckin2001> function1, it had it in feisty as well
[19:53] <MTughan> riddareralf: DVD just comes with more packages. CD can download those.
[19:53] <murkyMurk> TheRepacker: i preferred pigpond
[19:53] <Mishaal> somehow yes ;) , need to buy a blank CD kishan, i don't have just now
[19:53] <riddareralf> Oh ok
[19:53] <EminX> riddareralf: can you help me
[19:53] <nn> claudio75: sometimes vendors switch chipsets and dont change model #'s
[19:53] <John117> therepacker thanks.
[19:53] <beni> neosix: Do you have DSL + a router? So you may "Forward your ports" to your local computer in order to make the port accessible from the outside (=the internet)
[19:53] <kishan> Mishaal, lol ooh i c
[19:53] <astro76> nn, we're talking about what's included on the disk... on CD isn't much space so the selections have to be customized
[19:53] <TheRepacker> John117, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[19:53] <beni> EminX: Where's the prob? :)
[19:53] <Veinor> every time I try to spellcheck, it crashes.
[19:53] <kishan> Mishaal, where are u now i mean place
[19:53] <Raven80> annyone help me?
[19:53] <astro76> nn, once either is installed you can install anything from the net
[19:53] <rambo3> RequinB4: did you check all channels in alsamixer
[19:53] <nownott> looking for a simple good tutorial for openvpn
[19:53] <neosix> beni: I have wireless conection, and pppoe
[19:53] <murkyMurk> end0r57: the app is called realplay not realplayer. it should be as easy as realplay <whatever.rm>
[19:53] <claudio75> nn: but i can see the model with lsusb...
[19:53] <beni> nownott: better google for it
[19:53] <Raven80> annyone help me?
[19:54] <function1> ckin2001: in the authentication menu thingy all i see is wpa key, wep key, and leap
[19:54] <michael_> nownott: try google
[19:54] <John117> Also.   I am really interested in re-learning linux.  Can anybody recomend a good book that will teach me alot of basic + advanced commands with the Linux Kernel, GNU and maybe Ubuntu?
[19:54] <end0r57> roger that
[19:54] <EminX> Anybody help plz :The software source for the package    nvidia-glx   is not enabled
[19:54] <nn> claudio75: does their cam work on -your- box?
[19:54] <nownott> everybody: i did
[19:54] <michael_> John117: yes, google.
[19:54] <RequinB4> rambo3:  explain, but probably yes
[19:54] <claudio75> nn: and i've seen people who are useing my webcam just connecting it to ubuntu without installing it
[19:54] <wolferine> vocx, thats, I guess that gives an explaination :/
[19:54] <beni> John117: I wont buy a book, the internet is the source of wisdom. nothing is written in books which is not accessible in the net. But you always got to search
[19:54] <vocx> claudio75, then ask your friends for further details. I think that is way better than going through the irc or web.  Also complain to the manufacturers or even file abug report on launchpad.
[19:54] <claudio75> nn: it works on feisty
[19:54] <thrashyy> Is there any way to burn a cd image onto a dvdr disk?
[19:55] <UpJOhN27> hai
[19:55] <beni> EminX: How are you trying to install the nvidia drivers?
[19:55] <michael_> yes
[19:55] <rambo3> RequinB4: start alsamixer and check that channels are not muted  "M" . just press M key on channel
[19:55] <murkyMurk> Veinor: there is an Open Office forum that can help you..this is an Ubuntu IRC cahnnel
[19:55] <beni> !nvidia | EmniX Do it as described here
[19:55] <ubotu> EmniX Do it as described here: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:55] <RequinB4> rambo3 yep done that
[19:55] <nn> claudio75: ahh.. driver issue, maybe the driver was a patch against the feisty kernel
[19:55] <michael_> thrashyy: use wodim
[19:55] <Omnius> thrashyy yeah
[19:55] <paritosh> i tried to move my / partition. it keeps booting back into the old partition. what might be the problem?
[19:55] <claudio75> vocx: my firends don't know.....they just connected it to ubuntu and it worked
[19:55] <lauchazombie> jdong, so i installed azureus with apt-get and replaced .azureus in mi home with the files in what i downloaded from their official site and still crashes
[19:55] <TheRepacker> John117, google is your best friend
[19:55] <John117> beni that is very true.  Sometimes it is difficult to get to.   Do you know of one difinitive resource with some tutorials on basic shell commands and file structure, ect?  Basic beginner stuff?
[19:55] <astro76> John117, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
[19:55] <EminX> beni: with system administrat
[19:55] <butti> hello
[19:55] <nn> claudio75: you probably still have the fiesty kernel + modules installed, if so, try booting off that image (at grub)
[19:55] <claudio75> nn: they're all useing that driver
[19:55] <butti> need help wile stupid
[19:55] <vocx> wolferine, I personally do not have experience with the dual head setups but I redirect everyone to read the release notes.
[19:56] <beni> EminX: better to do it as described in the tutorial ubotu send you!
[19:56] <tomd123> Hey all, is there an oss tool that will let me choose an email pop account and backup all my files from that account?
[19:56] <thrashyy> 0mnius: How? I already googled
[19:56] <Lejzi> does anyone have problems with kernel in gutsy ?
[19:56] <slylock> hello guys i am new to ubuntu
[19:56] <beni> EminX: thats easier for begginers
[19:56] <slylock> i wanted to know
[19:56] <beni> John117: wait
[19:56] <nn> claudio75: it could be a slight change in the driver since fiesty or maybe just driver got overlooked :)
[19:56] <claudio75> nn: i still have feisty kernel ...yes...and i'm useing it
[19:56] <slylock> which IDE is good for C++
[19:56] <butti> could anybody make correction of syntax  for me?
[19:56] <nn> claudio75: and not working?
[19:56] <astro76> tomd123, yes, any pop3 email client
[19:56] <wolferine> vocx, yeah, its doesnt talk about my specific situation, which might appear to be a bug in displayconfig-gtk
[19:56] <claudio75> nn: no
[19:56] <beni> slylock: there are a lot. Geany, Bluefish
[19:56] <beni> GEdit
[19:56] <tomd123> astro76: but does it download all the email's to a specific directory?
[19:56] <nn> claudio75: privmsg might be easier given the traffic here
[19:57] <John117> astro76 thanks!
[19:57] <beni> butti: tell me
[19:57] <Omnius> thrashyy michael says wodim but i did it in xp using ultraISO
[19:57] <slylock> hmmmm
[19:57] <vocx> claudio75, then use your friends' computers and see what they have. What kernel they use and what version their kernel module is. Then try to use that in your system.
[19:57] <jdong> lauchazombie: remove azureus from apt-get
[19:57] <slylock> i donno which one to go for
[19:57] <end0r57> murkyMurk: i'm not able to find anything titled realplay.... just realplayer from real networks.
[19:57] <murkyMurk> John117: linuxformat either the paper magazine or teh webby
[19:57] <jdong> lauchazombie: use only the downloaded azureus tar.bz2, run it with ./azureus
[19:57] <slylock> what about eclipse
[19:57] <beni> John117:  http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/
[19:57] <slylock> ??
[19:57] <EminX> beni: thanks I'll try
[19:57] <slylock> is eclipse good
[19:57] <astro76> tomd123, sure, it's different with different clients, what are you trying to do?
[19:57] <murkyMurk> end0r57: have you downloaded the file from the realplayer website?
[19:57] <atlfalcons866> can i turn off fsck?
[19:57] <razer> nån som använder crossover?
[19:57] <michael_> wodim -v -data -eject dev=/dev/cdrw some-image.iso
[19:57] <neosix> beni: can u help me?
[19:57] <slylock> compared to rest
[19:58] <butti> beni: http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/12799
[19:58] <end0r57> murkyMurk: yes
[19:58] <end0r57> it extracted all the needed files
[19:58] <max7> Hi, How to change number of desktops with desktop cube?
[19:58] <tomd123> astro76, I want to download all my emails to a certain folder and then compress it
[19:58] <vocx> jdong, still talking about azureus? Is it really broken? I always thought it was because of the GCJ.
[19:58] <michael_> lol
[19:58] <vsayikiran> gutsy doesnt support my graphics card
[19:58] <PinkFloyd> I created a chroot jail for SSH. I downloaded a script that autocreates a jail in /home/jail/home/user but it didnt copy over Nano. I copied Nano from /bin into /home/jail/bin but when I try to load it I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41560/      The libncurses is in /home/jail/lib but do I need to do something else to get Nano to work in the jail?
[19:58] <michael_> i cant take this anymore
[19:58] <flick> vsayikiran, which one is it?
[19:58] <RequinB4> rambo3 - the only thing i know is that its not a hardware problem - window$ handles it fine, but i can't seem to find what the problem is for ubuntu
[19:58] <end0r57> even a folder named 'mozilla' containing the needed plug-ins (im assuming) but i can't get them to work.
[19:58] <astro76> tomd123, are you trying to back up gmail or something?
[19:58] <vsayikiran> i am having problem while login in
[19:58] <murkyMurk> end0r57: great. did you make it executable like they said? with a chmod +x command?
[19:58] <tomd123> no, its a university account
[19:59] <end0r57> sure did
[19:59] <jdong> vocx: I place the blame largely on GCJ, yes
[19:59] <vsayikiran> flcik: mine is intel 945gm chipset
[19:59] <riotkittie> max7: have you installed compizconfig-settings-manager?  if so, go to the general tab and increase horizontal virtual desktops to 4
[19:59] <astro76> tomd123, you can use thunderbird
[19:59] <kkathman> on the main menu bar (Applications, Places, System)  can you add an item to those three?
[19:59] <jdong> vocx: we're discussing alternatives in development channels currently... I defintiely want to get it right with HArdy
[19:59] <end0r57> murkyMurk:  the Bin directory is empty, however.
[19:59] <beni> neosix: try /msg beni <your_problem>
[19:59] <Omnius> has anyone had their menu disappear after using the menu manager?
[19:59] <vsayikiran> flick: only problem is during login , so a lot of problem to dislpay login screen
[19:59] <Veinor> I'm using the openoffice versino from the repos
[19:59] <astro76> tomd123, sounds like whatever client you use, make sure you check leave messages on server as it sounds like you are doing so
[20:00] <tomd123> astro76, ill try that
[20:00] <max7> riotkittie: Thank You very much
[20:00] <frank23> what's a good rss feed media agregator? Miro is really unstable and penguintv crashes on load. Amarok works but can.t play videos directly.
[20:00] <murkyMurk> end0r57: all good so far,, and then did you do a sudo ./whatever the damn thing is called these days  ?
[20:00] <end0r57> yes
[20:00] <hellcattrav> is it worth it to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10? and how should I go about doing it?
[20:00] <gunashekar> I am getting "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" errors for all updates after "failed to write to cache". what could the problem be?
[20:00] <flick> vsayikiran, which graphics card is it?
[20:00] <vsayikiran> flick: after login it takes 10 min for my desktop to setup
[20:00] <vocx> jdong, after all it will be a LTS right?   But hey, who needs azureus in a LTS Server? That's just being picky.
[20:00] <stemount> apt-get install dist-upgrade hellcattrav
[20:00] <end0r57> murkyMurk: i did. it then created a new directory and extracted a bunch of files.
[20:00] <beni> hellcattrav: that depends on what you *need* and want from the update
[20:00] <John117> thanks beni
[20:00] <PinkFloyd> I created a chroot jail for SSH. I downloaded a script that autocreates a jail in /home/jail/home/user but it didnt copy over Nano. I copied Nano from /bin into /home/jail/bin but when I try to load it I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41560/      The libncurses is in /home/jail/lib but do I need to do something else to get Nano to work in the jail?
[20:00] <astro76> !upgrade | hellcattrav
[20:00] <vsayikiran> flick: intel 945 gm chipset
[20:00] <ubotu> hellcattrav: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:01] <beni> John117: hope it's okay but these shellscripting tutorials helped me a lot with handling linux stuff
[20:01] <murkyMurk> end0r57: all good, all very good, now what happens if you just type realplay in a terminal?
[20:01] <butti> anybody good in seting PATH syntax?
[20:01] <end0r57> command not found
[20:01] <rvgate_> is there a non shareware app for creating .rar archives?
[20:01] <beni> John117: Or just setup an old linux computer which shares music on your lan or stuff :) Just little tasks to learn about this OS
[20:01] <vsayikiran> flick: my graphics card is intel 945gm chipset
[20:01] <murkyMurk> end0r57: ahhhh.
[20:01] <beni> rvgate
[20:01] <PinkFloyd> rvgate_ rar
[20:01] <beni> !rar | rvgate_
[20:01] <ubotu> rvgate_: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[20:01] <astro76> butti, ask your question
[20:01] <hellcattrav> hey why does sunbird run in ubuntu, but I can't get it to work in fedora?
[20:01] <murkyMurk> end0r57: what about /usr/bin/realplay
[20:02] <butti> astro76: http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/12799
[20:02] <beni> hellcattrav: please ask that in #fedora
[20:02] <rvgate_> PinkFloyd, beni... like i said... non-shareware.... rar = shareware
[20:02] <flick> vsayikiran, sorry i'm not using that, but i hope other's who are using [Intel 945gm chipset] graphics card would be able to help you
[20:02] <butti> astro76: make correction if yu can
[20:02] <PinkFloyd> rvgate_ then you'll have to go to .tar.gz or tar.bz2
[20:02] <Veinor> I'm using the openoffice versino from the repos, but it also happens with the official version
[20:02] <end0r57> murkyMurk: nothing
[20:03] <hellcattrav> beni: I did
[20:03] <[Al]> how do I add to the MIME types associated with a command in BASH?
[20:03] <vsayikiran> please anyone tell me , gutsy nnot supporting intel 950 graphics accelerator and graphica card
[20:03] <end0r57> murkyMurk:
[20:03] <John117> beni thanks.  I used to be pretty good with Red Hat back in the day but its been years.
[20:03] <beni> butti please answer me in qry
[20:03] <end0r57> murkyMurk: i've got it now
[20:03] <hellcattrav> beni: there is a reason I came over here perhaps someone here might know why it works here at all
[20:03] <Do0oDz> hello .. anyone good at VMware plz ?
[20:03] <murkyMurk> end0r57: sweeettt..what was it?
[20:03] <unhu> Hello, is there any way to upgrade from 5.10 to 7.04?
[20:03] <beni> John117: then you wont have any problems ;) And in case there will be one, just google or join the support the guys here are pretty smart :o)
[20:03] <vsayikiran> i am having problem while login in , a message show unable to find graphics card manufacture
[20:04] <unhu> or will I need to install 6.06?
[20:04] <naranco> ntpdate doesnt work out of the box on gutsy gibbon? cant adjust the time from the gnome menu either
[20:04] <gutsyAleExXxX> unhu: I think you need 7.04 to upgrade directly
[20:04] <beni> hellcattrav: sorry, I'm not into the devteam ;)
[20:04] <vsayikiran> i am not able to load graphics properly in gutsy
[20:04] <kkathman> unhu not without going through the interim releases  unless you do a fresh install
[20:04] <end0r57> murkyMurk: haha i was looking for the binary in the Bin directory but it was in a different directory located in the RealPlayer folder.
[20:04] <murkyMurk> unhu: don't upgrade, reinstall
[20:04] <end0r57> murkyMurk: thanks
[20:04] <murkyMurk> end0r57: it's a learning curve. well done
[20:04] <kaw22> !cron
[20:04] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[20:04] <butti> beni: query is open
[20:05] <frank23> unhu: the only officially supported way is 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04 (to 7.10)   you'd be better to reinstall maybe
[20:05] <unhu> murkymurk I have no way too, my computer cannot handle live cds, and I am having no luck buring the alternate
[20:05] <beni> butti: is this a shellscript?
[20:05] <butti> beni: yes
[20:05] <Phocion> hey all.....just upgraded to Gutsy.  Looks like I'm having issues with X now.  I can't get anything better than 800x600 resolution.  Any ideas?????
[20:05] <unhu> frank32 how do i upgrade to 6.06, i cannot get the update to appear in the update manager
[20:05] <Phocion> hey all.....just upgraded to Gutsy.  Looks like I'm having issues with X now.  I can't get anything better than 800x600 resolution.  Any ideas?????
[20:06] <vsayikiran> oh god save me
[20:06] <beni> butti: and what should it do? what should be appended to $PATH?
[20:06] <riotkittie> Phocion: does your xorg.conf specify res larger than that?
[20:06] <Ashex> !echo
[20:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about echo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:06] <captine> hi all.  Sorry to bother.  just d/l latest ubuntu.  want to install, but also looking to buy blackberry/smartphone.  wondering if anyone uses one and sync's properly with ubuntu?
[20:06] <rambo3> RequinB4: i am out of ideas . try passing some options to module.conf . you could google your card name and snd-hda-intel
[20:06] <jotil> Phocion: run this: dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xconf
[20:06] <Phocion> riotkittie: it should
[20:06] <murkyMurk> unhu: if your box can't run a live CD then I doubt it'll run much better under 606 than 50
[20:06] <PinkFloyd> rvgate_ then you'll have to go to .tar.gz or tar.bz2
[20:06] <vsayikiran> i having problem with gutsy
[20:06] <RoC_MasterMind> !xorg > Phocion
[20:06] <PinkFloyd> I created a chroot jail for SSH. I downloaded a script that autocreates a jail in /home/jail/home/user but it didnt copy over Nano. I copied Nano from /bin into /home/jail/bin but when I try to load it I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41560/      The libncurses is in /home/jail/lib but do I need to do something else to get Nano to work in the jail?
[20:06] <butti> beni: this what is standing there, but the syntax is probaly wrong
[20:06]  * justin420 hates the fact he has to use windows xp now; being since nvidia + gutsy = $HIT
[20:06] <toed> I'm trying to remember, I once saw a fancy looking program for ubuntu/gnome that would tell you when a website or rss feed is updated. Any idea what this thing might be called?
[20:06] <jotil> Phocion: backup your current xorg.conf file before you run that
[20:06] <beni> butti: indeed, it is
[20:06] <vsayikiran> gutsy does not support graphics card
[20:06] <Phocion> awesome dudes thanks
[20:07] <arash`> when i use the screen rotate option on my tablet in Screen Resolution, the coordinates for the tablet pointer are all messed up. how can i fix that?
[20:07] <Phocion> well it's already screwed up
[20:07] <murkyMurk> justin420: nvidia and gutsy is a marriage made in heaven
[20:07] <Pici> toed: liferea perhaps
[20:07] <frank23> unhu: did you look here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[20:07] <butti> beni: help me
[20:07] <Ashex> unhu, what happens when you load the live disc?
[20:07] <beni> butti: to set a variable, just use `PATH=$PATH:/home/foo/bar/` and no SET like in batch scripting
[20:07] <[[Charlie]]> !nick | [[Charlie]]
[20:07] <RequinB4> rambo3 thanks so much for your help though, been trying to get this laptop to work for a few months
[20:07] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: what graphics card?
[20:07] <RequinB4> rambo3 i should make a list of things i've already done :P
[20:07] <Ghone[fark]> nvidia works with gutsy?  I now need gutsy.
[20:07] <toed> Pici: that's not quite it, iirc it was a panel applet
[20:07] <unhu> nevermind, but thanks for the help, i have found another way
[20:07] <butti> beni: make correction of that and post it there
[20:07] <John117> justin420 since when its nvidia+gutsy=shit?
[20:08] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: intel 950
[20:08] <Pici> !language | John117
[20:08] <ubotu> John117: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[20:08] <flick> murkyMurk, vsayikiran has intel 945gm
[20:08] <astro76> butti, syntax is PATH="${PATH}:/some/path:/adifferent/path"
[20:08] <justin420> murkyMurk: not with my nvidia 6800gs trying to get 1680x1050 dvi-d connection; and compiz-fusion, im surprised my lappy performs better with an ati card than nvidia...
[20:08] <Ghone[fark]> i have 2 nvidia cards that i can't get working with feisty.....
[20:08] <vsayikiran> flick: intel 945gm is chipset
[20:08] <mic> installation of ubuntu on PS3 is really poor and hard
[20:08] <butti> astro76: I try to correct this and show you again
[20:08] <flick> vsayikiran, murkyMurk might be able to help ya
[20:08] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: i have an intel 855GM  uses i810 driver, can't speak to a 945
[20:09] <John117> I sure hope nvidia works with Gutsy! I know ATI sure doesn't.
[20:09] <Gosha> Does Ubuntu 6.06 get the same updates as the newer ones? Like, kernel-updates and such?
[20:09] <beni> butti: It's like one line "PATH=$PATH:$HOME/usr/brlcad/:/usr/brlcad/bin && LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/usr/brlcad/lib && manpath=$manpath:/HOME/usr/brlcad/man"
[20:09] <riotkittie> my ati works fine with gutsy.
[20:09] <Doofus> Hi all; can anyone recommend a good resource for troubleshooting ndiswrapper connectivity issues on a newly-upgraded 7.10 system?
[20:09] <Box|UK> ATI xpress 200 FTW
[20:09] <toed> ah, it was specto
[20:09] <Dyus> never had a problem with my 6800GS
[20:09] <jotil> John117: i got my nvidia to work fine and i have seen people make their ati work as well.
[20:09] <TheRepacker> Ghone[fark] I have 2 nvidia cards, and 3 screens running right now
[20:09] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: do yuou know anything, when i am selecting i810 then it is not able to save
[20:09] <Shadoslayer> Hey folks, I'm trying to install ubuntu 7.10 on a inspiron 5000 laptop which has ati mobility. I was able to install unbuntu 6 just fine, but when I boot the 7.10 cd my graphics are all bugged up. Any suggestions?
[20:09] <mic> nvidia is working fine here too
[20:10] <john_doe> how can I restart nautilus. because of a bug in 7.10 it takes all cpu, and I read that if it's restarted, I can use my cpu again. I use xfce.
[20:10] <frank23> Gosha: dapper gets security-updates only
[20:10] <beni> Shadoslayer: the same for me.. :-!
[20:10] <murkyMurk> justin420: you can change the video card in your lappy?   I got Compiz installed finally with the drivers, but it kept crashing.  It was realy slow.  Not really worth it.
[20:10] <MMMmath404_3140> need help on shell scripting...is there any one now to help now?
[20:10] <Phocion> dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xconf
[20:10] <john_doe> MMMmath404_3140: join #bash
[20:10] <Phocion> i don't have the dkpg-reconfigure application
[20:10] <frank23> what's a good rss feed media agregator? Miro is really unstable and penguintv crashes on load. Amarok works but can.t play videos directly.
[20:10] <pyrak> my wifi is kinda mest up... it keeps dropping connectinos
[20:10] <justin420> Dyus: you arent by chance using dvi-d conection with 1680x1050 res are ya?
[20:11] <pyrak> what package should i reinstal from synaptic?
[20:11] <Gosha> frank23: Okay, but, doesn't the kernel get involved in the security?
[20:11] <Phocion> where do i get dkpg-reconfigure application??
[20:11] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: system-> administration -> screens and graphics
[20:11] <budmang> Hey guys my single tap is not working 70% of the time. Double and triple tap work perfect any ideas?
[20:11] <Fryguy--> frank23: I use google reader in a browser
[20:11] <[[Charlie]]> !wine > [[Charlie]]
[20:11] <deadlyallance309> i need a modem for my laptop that works with ubuntu
[20:11] <Box|UK> John117,  i tried all yesterday to get the xpress 200 working i gave up  managed to change the screen size
[20:11] <jotil> Phocion: sudo apt-get install dpkg-reconfigure
[20:11] <murkyMurk> justin420: good point, lots of DVi setups can't actually handle the highest resolutions,,forced back down to vga cables to get that
[20:11] <function1> anyone know how to connect to a wpa eap network with nm?
[20:11] <Phocion> ah i was typing it worng :)
[20:11] <vsayikiran> anybody who uses intel 945gm chipset and intel 950 graphics accelerator card
[20:12] <Dyus> justin420 i have a dvi and a vga linked with twinview to 2560x1024
[20:12] <Ghone[fark]> TheRepacker: mine are special cases.  one is a fx5200 that lost all 3d acceleration after 3 weeks because i was an FFXI addict, and the other is a TNT2 RIVA Model64, which AFAIK in not linux-friendly
[20:12] <frank23> Gosha: yeah. the kernel gets updated if a security problem is found. it's only a patch though, you don't get a recent kernel
[20:12] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: I tend to edit the xorg file directly. CAn you do that in a terminal as root?
[20:12] <vsayikiran> gutsy is terribly slow
[20:12] <frank23> Fryguy--: I want something to download video podcasts
[20:12] <mic> i cannot see any performance difference
[20:12] <Gosha> frank23: What do the other parts of the kernel do? I mean, why do they get so frequently get updated?
[20:12] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: i am ready to do, i want it should work for me
[20:13] <Fryguy--> Gosha: performance increases, more driver support, features added on, support for other architectures
[20:13] <frank23> Gosha: drivers get updated all the time.
[20:13] <TheRepacker> Ghone[fark] special case here also, 100.14.19 causes lockup reverted to 9639 now rock solid
[20:13] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: good. Start by opening a terminal and running sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:13] <Fryguy--> Gosha: the kernel is the heart of the ENTIRE operating system.  It's responsible for everything that happens
[20:14] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: its opening it takes lot of time to open windows
[20:14] <Ghone[fark]> TheRepacker Your quotind of version numbers leads me to believe you know a lot more about the nVidia cards and making them work than I do.
[20:14] <Gosha> Fryguy--: So, if I find Gutsy slower and my system worked perfectly with an erlier version of ubuntu there is no need to upgrade? I mean, all those new stuff like the indexing and fast-user-switching just slows my computer down.
[20:14] <John117> box|uk you got farther than i did.  If anyone has experience, i'd appreciate some pointers
[20:15] <paritosh> whenever i do grub setup, italways installs to hd0,7. although my root is now not located on that partition. why is that?
[20:15] <stinger05> how can i access permission to the menu.lst file using the ubuntu live cd ? (i dont have access to the file)
[20:15] <tomd123> Does anyone know how to enable the S1 and S2 keys on a vaio laptop
[20:15] <Fryguy--> Gosha: if you don't want to upgrade, then don't.  I'd argue there's plenty of reasons to upgrade, and all of those things that you claim slow your machine down can be turned off pretty easily
[20:15] <Box|UK> John117,  i could talk you through it but i does involve a restart
[20:15] <jotil> stinger05: you should
[20:15] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: when it's open, scroll down to Section "Device"
[20:15] <Gosha> Fryguy--: I have tried to shut as many as I found down. But it is still running slower in this new version.
[20:16] <TheRepacker> Ghone[fark], well I know that there is a problem with SMP/7XXX cards and nvidia-glx-new
[20:16] <paritosh> whenever i do grub setup, italways installs to hd0,7. although my root is now not located on that partition. why is that? anybody?
[20:16] <stinger05> jotil: i only have read-only access
[20:16] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: originally i was having A01 BIOS now i upgraded it to A06 is it creating problem
[20:16] <ugu> hello. i'm on 7.10, xorg-video-ati. is there any (semi-)official way to use a second monitor or a projector?
[20:16] <stinger05> i want to write so i can fix it
[20:16] <Suchthefool> i cant get my wireless to work on 7.10 can anyone help me out?
[20:16] <Dyus> stinger05: sudo nautilus in terminal then u can move around and edit as you please, just be carefull what you do
[20:16] <John117> box|uk that's okay. I was using my laptop as an experiement so i could get comfortable with the install before switching on my desktop.   I think i'm ready. :)
[20:16] <jotil> paritosh: change your grub root from the grub command prompt
[20:16] <Fryguy--> Gosha: so then roll back to a previous version.  Or consider taking the time to really learn linux and put together a customized desktop that works just the way you want
[20:16] <j1tters> Does anyone know if ubuntu will run on a dual proc alpha server?
[20:17] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: BIOS only matters pre-boot really, an upgraded BIOS should not make your PC go slow
[20:17] <astro76> !gksu | Dyus stinger05
[20:17] <ubotu> Dyus stinger05: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using « sudo <GUI-application> » - See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[20:17] <Ghone[fark]> TheRepacker I'm drinking beer right now, so I can only pretend to know what a SMP/7XXX card is.
[20:17] <BHSPitLappy> How can I disable ubuntu/gnome's control of an LCD backlight on a laptop?
[20:17] <Jban> Hello, if I wanted to Migrate some Word documents / pictures over to my Linux parition, how would I do that now?  It didn't show me anything that I could bring over when it was installing, so could someone help me figure out how to do that now that I have everything working good?
[20:17] <paritosh> jotil: i did. i used root (hd0,2) setup (hd0),it still installs as (hd0,7)
[20:17] <Genotrius> Anybody willing to help someone having trouble with the upgrade?
[20:17] <Fryguy--> Jban: why do you want to move them?
[20:17] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: is it open now and have you found the section "Device"?
[20:17] <BHSPitLappy> Jban, is your windows partition not mounted, and placed on the desktop
[20:17] <Box|UK> John117,  i installed  unbuntu last night and i really like it although my graphics cards  shite
[20:17] <Jban> Fryguy--: So.... I dont have to boot into Windows to read them?
[20:17] <kondor101> is there a terminal command i can type to see what version of ubuntu i am using?
[20:17] <Dyus> stinger05: use gksudo nautilus, aparently
[20:17] <Fryguy--> Jban: they are all still available where they are now, no need to move them
[20:17] <Fryguy--> Jban: no
[20:17] <pubuntu> i need help :( the guided partitioning won't let me go below 50%
[20:17] <Genotrius> like. GUI not coming up trouble?
[20:17] <Gosha> Fryguy--: I'd like to learn all of it. I just don't know where to start. I know some basic stuff. And basically I just stick to ubuntu because it's easy-to-use and has a huge support-channel.
[20:17] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: be patient my pc is very slow in gutsy, yes
[20:17] <TheRepacker> Ghone[fark] I have tried to spread the word SMP kernels and nvidia 7XXX videos and driver
[20:18] <Oggu> Amaranth: Now i get the visual effects and drivers to work. But i cant get better resolution then 1024x768
[20:18] <BHSPitLappy> Jban, he means, why not just access them without actually copying them over.
[20:18] <BenLinkr> pubuntu: how big is your harddrive?
[20:18] <Fryguy--> Gosha: www.linuxfromscratch.org is a fun way to learn a lot about linux
[20:18] <Oggu> Amaranth: What shall I do?
[20:18] <makuseru> hi, i have a Toshiba Gigabeat mp3 player, and when i connect it (via USB) it shows up as a camera and than i cant open the folder to put any songs on it or anything, how can i get this to display properly, as just another drive that i can put files in
[20:18] <pubuntu> i need only 20% of the HD dedicated to the ubuntu partition
[20:18] <pubuntu> my HD is 160gb
[20:18] <pubuntu> with 50% free space
[20:18] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: yes i opened then what i need to do
[20:18] <TheRepacker> Ghone[fark] I wish I had a Guiness right now
[20:18] <Jban> BHSPitLappy: Ok, then how would I do that... it is still my personal preference, but I would still be interesting in learning how to do either option.
[20:18] <BHSPitLappy> makuseru, install rockbox on it ;)
[20:18] <John117> box|uk i have a geforce 6600 on this machine.. I hope it will install and perform well.
[20:18] <Fryguy--> pubuntu: so use another partitioning tool?
[20:18] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: okay, wheeeeeen it opens, what is the line that starts Driver?
[20:18] <pubuntu> i don't know others
[20:18] <Ghone[fark]> TheRepacker Ah.  You have high end hardware.  I use computers made mostly of scrap.
[20:18] <pubuntu> i'm in the liveCD right now
[20:18] <makuseru> BHSPitLappy: on the mp3 player or my comp?
[20:18] <Fryguy--> pubuntu: the one in windows, partition magic, gparted, to name 3 off of the top of my head
[20:19] <Gosha> Fryguy--: Okay, thanks. I'll look onto it .. And use 6.06 meanwhile ^^.
[20:19] <pubuntu> do i have to download them?
[20:19] <budmang> My single tap only works 70% of the time. Double and Triple tap work perfect 100% of the time. Is there a fix for this?
[20:19] <BHSPitLappy> makuseru, on the player; it's a firmware replacement
[20:19] <Box|UK> John117,  i think thatll run compiz nice
[20:19] <kondor101> is there a version command i can type in to terminal to see what version of ubuntu i am on?
[20:19] <murkyMurk> budmang: new fingers
[20:19] <astro76> pubuntu, from the livecd, System > Admin > Gnome partition editor
[20:19] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: intel
[20:19] <sslashes> does anyone have any idea how i can read for mouse input (*not* keyboard input) using wither python or perl? - or, regadless of language, how something like that can even be done?
[20:19] <Fryguy--> pubuntu: nah they just magically appear out of midair
[20:19] <beni> kondor101: type "cat /etc/issue"
[20:19] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: but in identifier it is failsafe device is it ok
[20:19] <makuseru> BHSPitLappy: link to a how-to?
[20:19] <kondor101> beni ty
[20:19] <sco50000> hi, i just upgraded from feisty to gutsy with the alternate disk, and now i can't boot. if i boot in recovery mode, it says "Starting GNOME Display Manager" and it justs hangs there. i also have 3 different boot options in GRUB, including 3 recovery, so I have 6 boot options. they all hung in the same spot
[20:19] <Jban> Whichever one of the 3 people who replied: how would I view them from Ubuntu partition?
[20:19] <budmang> murkyMurk: anything else ?
[20:20] <TheRepacker> This is a mongrel, put together from what ever I could scrounge people were getting rid of CRTs to get LCDs etc
[20:20] <BHSPitLappy> makuseru, you could check out their web site (rockbox.org) or their channel (#rockbox)
[20:20] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: okay, my Driver line reads Driver "i810"
[20:20] <Genotrius> GNOME is not initializing properly after upgrade. toolbars do not show up, background is only color, mouse moves, but cannot right click.
[20:20] <Genotrius> Can anyone help?
[20:20] <sco50000> hi, i just upgraded from feisty to gutsy with the alternate disk, and now i can't boot. if i boot in recovery mode, it says "Starting GNOME Display Manager" and it justs hangs there. i also have 3 different boot options in GRUB, including 3 recovery, so I have 6 boot options. they all hung in the same spot
[20:20] <sco50000> please help
[20:20] <pubuntu> is there a way to just decrease the ubuntu partition size by manually partitioning instead of 'guided'?
[20:20] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: change your line to use the i810 driver instead of the intel one
[20:20] <j1tters> anyone? ubuntu64 on an alpha based system?
[20:20] <beni> !repeat | sco50000
[20:20] <ubotu> sco50000: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:20] <John117> I have a 250gb HD.  My windows install takes up 60gb.    How large should I make the ubuntu partitions?
[20:20] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: so i should change to that now
[20:20] <pubuntu> i haven't yet istalled
[20:20] <trident523> sco50000, Genotrius: Sounds like an error in X, or a graphics card.
[20:20] <Fryguy--> pubuntu: probably
[20:21] <beni> pubuntu: in the setup there is an option for this
[20:21] <k5ehx> after an upgrade my 3d desktop effects (desktop on a cube) are turned off. How do I turn this back on?
[20:21] <kondor101> says 7.10 here on my mums PC, but i know she hasn't done a proper upgrade, she still has gaim for a start not pidgin, any ideas?
[20:21] <Fethman> is there any keyboard to send a forground program to the background
[20:21] <astro76> pubuntu, yes use a partition tool like we said to shrink your windows partition to the desired size, then just install Ubuntu into the remaining free space
[20:21] <m1r> john117 ,rest of space :)
[20:21] <trident523> k5ehx: system -> preferences -> desktop effects
[20:21] <pubuntu> but i want to increase the windows partition size
[20:21] <FotoPhocus> John117:  I would say 100gb is more than plenty for Ubuntu.  Maybe even get away with 60
[20:21] <rypaint> could anyone walk me though troubleshooting no sound?
[20:21] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: yep, we can always change back later and it can hardly be slower can it?
[20:21] <vsayikiran> murkyMurk: i remember when i used ubuntu 704 then it was intel 950
[20:21] <Suchthefool> anyone willing to help someone out who cant get his wireless working on 7.10?
[20:21] <KI4IKL> Fethman, you could use alt+tab to switch windows.
[20:21] <TheRepacker> Ghone[fark] my mobo is one of the cheapest ASUS boards, M2NVP-Vm
[20:21] <k5ehx> trident523: it isn't there anymore
[20:21] <Jban> Fryguy--: So how do I view those files from the Ubuntu parition?
[20:21] <sslashes> any idea if there is a known issue with gnome-network-manager - mine says no network even when i have both hard-wired and wireless connections
[20:21] <sslashes> *with gusty
[20:21] <astro76> Fethman, middle-click the title bar
[20:21] <sco50000> trident523: is there any way i can fix this problem?
[20:21] <trident523> k5ehx: odd, does 3d work?
[20:22] <k5ehx> trident523: do you happen to know what package does that?
[20:22] <John117> photophocus m1r: okay..  I have 250gb external and another 150 internal for "data storage" (not installed programs)
[20:22] <Fethman> what what I ment is for a program that is running in the console
[20:22] <k5ehx> trident523: I wouldn't know whether or not 3d works
[20:22] <Fryguy--> Jban: if you browse to your computer (take a look at the places menu), your windows partition should be there
[20:22] <kondor101> is there a command to upgrade "everything"  ?
[20:22] <trident523> sco50000: Possibly, what graphics card?
[20:22] <Genotrius> trident: I've actually stopped X, I've got a big terminal screen now. We can rule out the graphics card I think; it worked fine before I upgraded.
[20:22] <[[Charlie]]> I need some help here. When I hit the quit button, neither Shut down nor restart are choices. Only stand by and hibernate.
[20:22] <trident523> k5ehx: what graphics card do you have?
[20:22] <Fethman> to send it in the backgroud because I'm runing it through ssh
[20:22] <sco50000> trident523: ATI Radeon 9550
[20:22] <Fryguy--> kondor101: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:22] <m1r> john117, 60gb more then enough for fancy system space
[20:22] <Fethman> and If I close the connection it will stop
[20:22] <sco50000> trident523: it worked fine in feisty
[20:22] <astro76> Fethman, ctrl+z to suspend, then bg %job number to background it, jobs to list jobs
[20:22] <beni> !screen | Fethman
[20:22] <ubotu> Fethman: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[20:23] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: when that is done save the file and reboot
[20:23] <k5ehx> trident523: don't know. The problem isn't that 3d doesn't work, it's that the spinning desktop thing isn't configured.
[20:23] <John117> m1r okay, thanks.  What is a good program to allow ntfs read/right no ubuntu?
[20:23] <trident523> sco50000: ati is a known bug currently, see the known bugs page. (I had a fightwith it this moring.)
[20:23] <John117> m1r write that is.
[20:23] <astro76> Fethman, yeah then you need screen
[20:23] <trident523> k5ehx: run glxgears from the terminal.
[20:23] <murkyMurk> vsayikiran: you could just restart X but I figure that'll take for ever
[20:23] <sco50000> trident523: OK
[20:23] <Fethman> thank you
[20:23] <beni> !ntfs | John117
[20:23] <ubotu> John117: ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[20:23] <Fethman> I'll try it
[20:23] <Fryguy--> John117: you get it included with 7.10, with 7.04 and before you need to install ntfs3g
[20:23] <k5ehx> trident523: works fine
[20:23] <TheRepacker> I have to thank Bill Gates for Vista, made me try Ubuntu
[20:24] <m1r> john117, i wouldnt recomend that
[20:24] <sco50000> trident523: where can i go look at this bug?
[20:24] <kondor101> fryguy ty working ;)
[20:24] <Jban> Fryguy--: Ahh, ok I understand now... I know that was a silly question, but I've only had Ubuntu for 2 days now  so... some really apparent things aren't common to me :)
[20:24] <trident523> k5ehx: you could be missing the package, or removed it from the menu. Sorry, I don't use 3D effects. :/ hopefully someone can help you.
[20:24] <John117> fryguy-- okay thanks.  no need to do anything, huh?
[20:24] <beni> TheRepacker: welcome to the Freedom Movement buddy! :)
[20:24] <John117> m1r wouldn't recommend what?
[20:24] <Fryguy--> John117: on 7.10 it should just work
[20:24] <trident523> sco50000: hold on a second, let me go find it again. :P
[20:24] <pubuntu> i haven't yet installed ubuntu.... i'd like to make it 85% windows 15% ubuntu
[20:24] <m1r> john117, write from XP to ubuntu
[20:24] <wirechief1> trident523 i had issues with ATI too but found that a way to install 8.41.7 and now works fine
[20:24] <beni> pubuntu: how come?
[20:24] <k5ehx> yeah, trident523. I just need to figure out what package it is, I think. THanks for your help, I'll do more googling
[20:24] <Fryguy--> it's one of the big newbie-enhancements of 7.10
[20:24] <BHSPitLappy> pubuntu, that's a terrible ratio
[20:24] <sco50000> pubuntu: that's exactly what i did
[20:24] <pubuntu> why terrible?
[20:24] <John117> m1r well... all of my external drives are in NTFS
[20:24] <pubuntu> what heppened when you did it?
[20:25] <FotoPhocus> I'm installing Ubuntu tomorrow night when I get my new PC built.  I've got a 400gb hard drive and 200gb hard drive.  400 will go to XP, pics, music, etc.  The other drive will go to Ubuntu
[20:25] <beni> pubuntu: because the majority of the code would be buggy as hell
[20:25] <Jban> Fryguy--: What was the non-newbie way... ?
[20:25] <sco50000> pubuntu:it worked fine
[20:25] <John117> m1r no, i won't access the ubuntu partition from windows.. is that what you mean?
[20:25] <beni> pubuntu: Just boot windows.. *rr*
[20:25] <BHSPitLappy> pubuntu, I was still a primary windows user.
[20:25] <Fryguy--> FotoPhocus: sounds like you are wasting a lot of space
[20:25] <trident523> wirechief1: I ended up having to fix mine by fixing a display error.
[20:25] <m1r> john117 , yes ok
[20:25] <FotoPhocus> Could be, but I don't have anything else to do with it
[20:25] <John117> m1r okay.. What is the name of the file system that Linux uses?
[20:25] <wirechief1> trident523: i used the script from kanotix
[20:26] <FotoPhocus> I had a 200gb first, and the 400gb I got on special for $100
[20:26] <BHSPitLappy> FotoPhocus, give me the 200GB, and partition the 400GB
[20:26] <pubuntu> what should be the proper ratio on my 160gb HD if i'm a primary windows user?
[20:26] <m1r> john117, u have many, ubuntu uses ext3
[20:26] <trident523> sco50000: People with ATI display adapters may get a blank screen when loading X due to the driver being unable to initialize certain hardware. Upstream is working on it, and hopefully we'll be able to release an update for 7.10 soon after the release. In the meantime, add 'Option "LVDSBiosNativeMode" "false"' to the driver section of xorg.conf. Bug #132716
[20:26] <Fryguy--> FotoPhocus: you should make a like 50gb windows partition, 15gb ubuntu/swap, and make the rest be separate data partitions so it's easier to work with
[20:26] <omegaweopon> A while ago I stumbled onto a VMware virtual machine creator.  Upon running it though It would appear I forgot to add a cdrom drvie to it.  Does anyone know what I found?  Almighty google is failing me
[20:26] <sco50000> John117: it uses ext3 and ext2 on older kernels
[20:26] <beni> John117: ext3 mainly
[20:26] <Badpenguin86> I installed fedora along with ubuntu, and I need to know how to add it to grub
[20:26] <[[Charlie]]> I need some help here. When I hit the quit button, neither Shut down nor restart are choices.  When i install ubuntu as a dual boot, and do manual partition sizes, does it make 3 partitions or two?
[20:26] <beni> yesterday i wrote a Howto explaining how to run windows on ubuntu
[20:26] <wirechief1> trident523: it worked great no problems, not like i had when i used Ubuntu's
[20:26] <TaBo> how i can open server in other window?
[20:26] <pubuntu>  what should be the proper ratio on my 160gb HD if i'm a primary windows user?
[20:26] <FotoPhocus> I'm not really familiar enough with Ubuntu or Linux to do anything other than the guided partitioning
[20:26] <BHSPitLappy> omegaweopon, I prefer VirtualBox, personally
[20:27] <beni> http://mybeni.rootzilla.de/mybeNi/2007/how_to_run_windows_applications_easily_under_ubuntu_linux_yes/
[20:27] <trident523> wirechief1: I don't use 3D anything, so, I'm good. :P
[20:27] <riotkittie> Badpenguin86: if you open /boot/grub/menu.lst  there's an example towards the top that might be helpful
[20:27] <astro76> omegaweopon, easyvmx.com ? I'm not sure what your question is
[20:27] <Suchthefool> can anyone help me get my wireless internet working again? having problems with gusty!
[20:27] <beni> BHSPitLappy: my tutorial uses Virtualbox
[20:27] <Fryguy--> pubuntu: ubuntu needs at most 15GB including swap, windows needs whatever it needs depending on what you are using it for, and then make the rest be a separate data partition
[20:27] <beni> And it just works..
[20:27] <sco50000> trident523: can you give me a link to the bug's page?
[20:27] <murkyMurk> John117: it makes one partition in auto mode...sticks it all in / whcih is good enough for most people most of the time
[20:27] <BHSPitLappy> beni, virtualbox needs no tutorial, it's dead simple
[20:27] <omegaweopon> Wow simple
[20:27] <function1> does networkmanager support phase2 auth now?
[20:27] <[[Charlie]]> I need some help here. When I hit the quit button, neither Shut down nor restart are choices. Only stand by and hibernate.
[20:27] <beni> BHSPitLappy: yes
[20:27] <Lejzi> i have problems with wlan connection too...i get wmaster0 and wlan0 instead just wlan0...any ideas :/
[20:27] <omegaweopon> Its amazing what a simple apt-get install will do
[20:28] <trident523> sco50000: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/132716
[20:28] <Sergo> !mp3
[20:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:28] <omegaweopon> Ok then beni. I shall try it your way!
[20:28] <beni> Lejzi: wmaster0 means that you radaptor needs drivers.
[20:28] <murkyMurk> John117: ahhh..forgot about swap partiotin..there's that as well
[20:28] <sco50000> trident523: thanks
[20:28] <beni> omegaweopon: have phun!
[20:28] <Matic`Makovec> Is there any special place where Gutsy stores "print screens"? Is the management of that screenies any different then before?
[20:28] <Lejzi> beni so i can simply use ndwrapper and thats it ?? no more problems? :)
[20:28] <John117> mukymurky okay.. so about 60gb for a man part and then 2-4 for a swap is cool?
[20:28] <BHSPitLappy> Matic`Makovec, when you hit the button, it asks you where you want to save it.
[20:28] <[[Charlie]]> I need some help here. When I hit the quit button, neither Shut down nor restart are choices. Only stand by and hibernate. please help
[20:28] <murkyMurk> Lejzi: just use wlan0 as normal,,i think wmaster is for ipv6
[20:29] <omegaweopon> HEy beni
[20:29] <beni> Lejzi: Yep ndiswrapper should be the solution
[20:29] <Matic`Makovec> So it isn't any different. I wonder why it didn't do that just now. Thank you BHSPitLappy
[20:29] <beni> !ndiswrapper | Lejzi
[20:29] <ubotu> Lejzi: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:29] <omegaweopon> Is there a resource I need to add?  Its not finding it
[20:29] <k5ehx> trident523: it was "compizconfig-settings-manager", btw
[20:29] <Lejzi> ty
[20:29] <Fryguy--> Matic`Makovec: hitting print screen (for me at least) pops up a dialog asking where to save the image to
[20:29] <Suchthefool> i use ndiswrapper on gusty and it works perfectly
[20:29] <wirechief1> trident523: when i used Ubuntu's script it screwed up my xorg.conf bigtime
[20:29] <Suchthefool> but it doesnt seem to work
[20:29] <Suchthefool> with 7.10
[20:29] <Jban> Fryguy--: Ok, so I tried opening a Word2003 document that's normally on my Windows' desktop while in Ubuntu now... but it opens up with my name visible in the document, and the rest are a bunch of random ##########'s and triangle-question marks.  Do I need to install a new pluggin or something?
[20:29] <murkyMurk> John117: yep if a little heavy on swap...generally same swap as you have RAM up to about 1G
[20:29] <linux1> hiya ppl im using " make CC=/usr/bin/gcc -j3 " to compile so i use both core in my cpu how do i set that permanently
[20:29] <Suchthefool> properly i mean
[20:29] <beni> omegaweopon: hum.. Are you gutsy?
[20:29] <Matic`Makovec> Fryguy--, yesh
[20:29] <omegaweopon> Yeah
[20:29] <Judgegeo> I setup a dual boot last night, between Vista and Ubuntu 7.10. I changed the boot file wrong so neither system would boot. I did a system recover and changed the boot file in Vista again. But when i select to boot into Ubuntu i get an error asking me to insert sysdisk
[20:29] <omegaweopon> Nno
[20:29] <BHSPitLappy> Suchthefool, so it works with 7.10, but not with 7.10, eh
[20:29] <BHSPitLappy> sounds tricky
[20:29] <astro76> Jban, opened it with what? openoffice?
[20:29] <Fryguy--> Jban: probably.  I don't use openoffice much so I can't answer that specific question
[20:29] <[[Charlie]]> I need some help here. When I hit the quit button, neither Shut down nor restart are choices. Only stand by and hibernate. please help
[20:30] <Jban> astro76: Correct
[20:30] <Suchthefool> well its installed and i can use it
[20:30] <omegaweopon> No beni, I am fiesty
[20:30] <John117> OKay guys.. i'm off to finally install ubuntu on my desktop this time. :)  thansk for your help!
[20:30] <Suchthefool> it picks up the card and the drivers installed
[20:30] <beni> omegaweopon: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[20:30] <beni> I'm feisty, too
[20:30] <Suchthefool> but it just wont work
[20:30] <Suchthefool> i dont know why
[20:30] <[[Charlie]]> Why is anyone still using Feisty?
[20:30] <omegaweopon> Already tried
[20:30] <Jban> astro76: Do I need to install a pluggin?
[20:30] <[[Charlie]]> Upg!upgrade | beni
[20:30] <[[Charlie]]> !upgrade | beni
[20:30] <ubotu> beni: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:30] <beni> [[Charlie]]: gutsy has still a couple of errors
[20:30] <Jban> Fryguy--: What's better than OpenOffice?
[20:30] <murkyMurk> linux1: set it in ~.profile i think
[20:30] <rypaint> i am using gusty and i have no sound is there a way to "reconfigure" everything that has to do with audio?
[20:30] <trident523> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Charlie: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-383619.html
[20:30] <riotkittie> Judgegeo: uh. are you trying to boot ubuntu with vista's boot loader?
[20:30] <[[Charlie]]> Not for me it doesn't
[20:30] <pubuntu> i wanna just have 20 or 25 GB for the new ubuntu install (xp/ubuntu dual boot), but the minimum the guided partition in the install allows me is 49% (72GB)
[20:30] <beni> [[Charlie]]: you are kidding me, aren't ya?!
[20:30] <Fryguy--> [[Charlie]]: people think gutsy is slower for them, or generally worried about the upgrade process.  there are people in here still using 6.06
[20:31] <Ind[y]> Sorry, is your "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:31] <KI4IKL> I'm in gusty and i'm, of coruse, running compiz fusion, when I try and run emerald I get this error : jared@jared-desktop:~$ emerald --replace (emerald:10827): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed and someone in the compiz-fusion told me my version of emerald doesn't work with compiz-fusion (emerald: emerald version 0.3.0-svn)...but ti's the version thats in the repos with the description "Compiz fusion window deco
[20:31] <KI4IKL> rator)
[20:31] <Dan2552> Jban: you could try abiword
[20:31] <BHSPitLappy> [[Charlie]], people are still using dapper
[20:31] <sco50000> trident523: i don't think this is the bug i am getting :(  if i start normally, it hangs at just near the end of the boot screen loading bar, and in recovery mode, it hangs at the part when it says: "Starting GNOME Display Manager:"
[20:31] <TaBo> how i can open server in other window?
[20:31] <Fryguy--> pubuntu: so use manual partition, why are you asking the same question over and over again?
[20:31] <Judgegeo> riotkittie: I used easyBCD to add the entry to the bootloader
[20:31] <[[Charlie]]> trident523, Wikipedian script doesn't like my name.
[20:31] <Fryguy--> pubuntu: and getting the same answers
[20:31] <omegaweopon> Beni: You sure there isnt a resource I need to add?  I just tried it three times and nothing
[20:31] <LiMaO> pubuntu: don't use the guided  thing, use the manual one
[20:31] <pubuntu> the manual partition is confusing :(
[20:31] <kbrooks> is the phrase "Linux for human beings" a trademark?
[20:31] <Ind[y]> Sorry, is your "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:31] <beni> probably you gotta edit your repositories *arg* lemme see
[20:31] <Flare183> which library/java do must I install in order to view my tables on openoffice.org base?
[20:31] <trident523> Charlie, I <3 tab compleation, sorry.
[20:31] <Jban> Dan2552: Everyone always says how OpenOffice is the Word equivilent... is that better or support more file types?
[20:31] <murkyMurk> pubuntu: something is badly wrong there...72G is massive
[20:31] <beni> kbrooks: probably ;)
[20:31] <sco50000> trident523: i don't think this is the bug i am getting :(  if i start normally, it hangs at just near the end of the boot screen loading bar, and in recovery mode, it hangs at the part when it says: "Starting GNOME Display Manager:"
[20:31] <omegaweopon> omegaweopon@Zonata:~$ sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[20:31] <omegaweopon> Reading package lists... Done
[20:31] <omegaweopon> Building dependency tree
[20:31] <omegaweopon> Reading state information... Done
[20:31] <omegaweopon> E: Couldn't find package virtualbox
[20:31] <beni> Jban: both!
[20:32] <Veinor> kbrooks: probably.
[20:32] <[[Charlie]]> trident523, Well I use it to...but why does it prefix wikipedia
[20:32] <pubuntu> i've a 160gb hd
[20:32] <trident523> sco50000: It's pretty much the same, X is failing to load still.
[20:32] <[[Charlie]]> omegaweapon: sudo apt-get update
[20:32] <Ind[y]> Is "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:32] <Dan2552> Jban: i've never liked openoffice to be honest, I use crossover+office XP
[20:32] <LiMaO> omegaweopon: you gotta download it from innotek's site
[20:32] <BHSPitLappy> omegaweopon, you can download the .deb from their website, or add their repository
[20:32] <MasterShrek> !info vitualbox | omegaweopon
[20:32] <Flare183> !paste | omegaweapon
[20:32] <ubotu> omegaweopon: Package vitualbox does not exist in gutsy
[20:32] <ubotu> omegaweapon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:32] <beni> omegaweopon: yep update first.. sorry
[20:32] <beni> MasterShrek: he's using feisty
[20:32] <LiMaO> omegaweopon: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[20:32] <nn> stop downloading gutsy :( i cant install mythtv meh
[20:32] <[[Charlie]]> !ops
[20:32] <trident523> Charlie, [{wiki}] text looks like that, but with normal brackets.
[20:32] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[20:32] <KI4IKL> I'm in gusty and i'm, of coruse, running compiz fusion, when I try and run emerald I get this error : jared@jared-desktop:~$ emerald --replace (emerald:10827): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed and someone in the compiz-fusion told me my version of emerald doesn't work with compiz-fusion (emerald: emerald version 0.3.0-svn)...but ti's the version thats in the repos with the description "Compiz fusion window deco
[20:32] <KI4IKL> rator)
[20:32] <MasterShrek> oh, well
[20:32] <Dyus> anyone know any good online hardware stores other than newegg.com or tigerdirect.com
[20:32] <omegaweopon> Sorry bout the large paste thing
[20:32] <[[Charlie]]> Ops, is "Linux for human beings" a trademark?
[20:32] <Pici> [[Charlie]]: ?
[20:32] <BHSPitLappy> [[Charlie]], what was that for?
[20:32] <linux1> murkymurk looks like that just for login i think
[20:32] <sco50000> trident523: so what can i do about this?
[20:33] <beni> He called the admins
[20:33] <fairway> is irssi in ubuntu?
[20:33] <Jban> Dan2552: Ok, so is OfficeXP one program or do I need Crossover aswell?
[20:33] <PriceChild> [[Charlie]], That is NOT a reason to call the operators.
[20:33] <Fryguy--> KI4IKL: so use gtk-window-decorator then
[20:33] <garu> hi everyone
[20:33] <LiMaO> omegaweopon: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads --> there IS a gutsy version
[20:33] <ompaul> [[Charlie]], ?
[20:33] <Mez> !opabuse | [[Charlie]]
[20:33] <Flare183> oh oh
[20:33] <[[Charlie]]> my bad.
[20:33] <ubotu> [[Charlie]]: leave the ops alone ktnxbye
[20:33] <beni> in cases of misbehaviour Pici BHSPitLappy
[20:33] <MasterShrek> fairway, i dont think by default, you can easily install it though
[20:33] <Box|UK> running utorrent in ubuntu  :)
[20:33] <trident523> sco50000: Right now, I don't know. You could boot into recovery mode, and change your driver to vesa.
[20:33] <BHSPitLappy> beni, har har.
[20:33] <Flare183> ouch
[20:33] <Dan2552> Jban: Office XP = microsoft office xp for windows, crossover is a commercial wine
[20:33] <[[Charlie]]> Well does anybody know if "Linux for human beings" is a trademark?
[20:33] <omegaweopon> Still I get nothing, even after update
[20:33] <Judgegeo>  I setup a dual boot last night, between Vista and Ubuntu 7.10. I changed the boot file wrong so neither system would boot. I did a system recover and changed the boot file in Vista again. But when i select to boot into Ubuntu i get an error asking me to insert sysdisk.
[20:33] <PriceChild> [[Charlie]], the wiki page should explain what is trademarked, if unsure, email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:33] <ompaul> [[Charlie]], yes talk with canonical
[20:33] <murkyMurk> linux1: i certainly use ~.profile to set environment variables and make them permanent for my user
[20:33] <KI4IKL> Fryguy--, I want to use emrald though. It's rpettier :P plus why wouldnt' it work if it says in the repos "Compiz fusion window decorator"
[20:33] <Ind[y]> Sorry, is your "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:33] <Dyus> [[Charlie]] i would asume so
[20:33] <Jake1> Is there a way in linux to navigate to some directory with nautilus and then switch to a terminal in that specific directory?
[20:33] <sco50000> trident523: what is vesa? what is it normally set to?
[20:33] <Flare183> which library/java do must I install in order to view my tables on openoffice.org base?
[20:33] <garu> what's the main difference between the livecd and the livedvd?does it make any different which one u install?
[20:34] <Genotrius> GNOME is not initializing properly after upgrade. toolbars do not show up, background is only color, mouse moves, but cannot right click.
[20:34] <Genotrius> I do not have and ATI display adapter.
[20:34] <sco50000> trident523: i am not using ati drivers at the moment
[20:34] <Fryguy--> KI4IKL: no idea, it works for me, though I use gtk-window-decorator because it looks better to me
[20:34] <isaacj87> hi everyone
[20:34] <omegaweopon> Im fiesty for those who think Im gutsy
[20:34] <MasterShrek> Judgegeo, you need to load ubuntu from grub
[20:34] <fairway> MasterShrek: by package management system?
[20:34] <BHSPitLappy> garu, dvd comes with more software on it.
[20:34] <Badpenguin86> Is there a way to just reinstall grub so it picks up all os'es without messing with the config?
[20:34] <isaacj87> i was hoping to get some help?
[20:34] <MasterShrek> fairway, yes, sudo apt-get install irssi
[20:34] <Doofus_Magoo> Can anyone recommend a good resource for troubleshooting connectivity issues with ndiswrapper after a new 7.10 upgrade?
[20:34] <trident523> sco50000: Oh, drats, I thought you were that other person. >.>
[20:34] <LiMaO> omegaweopon: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads --> download virtualbox here. no matter what your version is, there is a .deb for it.
[20:34] <Dyus> anyone know any good online hardware stores other than newegg.com or tigerdirect.com?
[20:34] <MasterShrek> whats the prob isaacj87
[20:34] <fairway> mastershrek: thanks
[20:34] <MasterShrek> np fairway
[20:34] <Ind[y]> Sorry, is your "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:34] <trident523> sco50000: What do you use?
[20:34] <murkyMurk> trident523: what's up?
[20:34] <BHSPitLappy> garu, software you can easily install over the internet otherwise
[20:34] <crdlb> Dyus, #hardware
[20:34] <Judgegeo> MasterShrek: How can i do that?
[20:34] <isaacj87> MasterShrek: My system sounds don't work correctly. They were working fine in Feisty
[20:35] <Jban> Dan2552: Ah, ok, so I could just grab that from Add Progs by typing in "Crossover" ?
[20:35] <sco50000> trident523: i was just using whatever drivers come with ubuntu
[20:35] <isaacj87> MasterShrek: my guess is it has something to do with ESD
[20:35] <sco50000> trident523: i have a ATI Radeon 9550
[20:35] <Ind[y]> Sorry, is your "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:35] <garu> BHSPitLappy so, in terms of stability, there is no difference whatsoever?
[20:35] <MasterShrek> !grub Judgegeo
[20:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub judgegeo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:35] <flick> if i want to pursue development in gnome, any ide in particular (for c++, python, or any other language that may be the norm) you suggest?
[20:35] <trident523> sco50000: Okay, so you either use flgrx,ati, or vesa.
[20:35] <Dan2552> Jban: no, it's proprietry, you have to pay .. in theory
[20:35] <Fryguy--> flick: use vim
[20:35] <isaacj87> MasterShrek: my sound works....but I'm using custom sounds for my system sounds and they don't play
[20:35] <beni> Jban: Crossover is a Program to run Microsoft Office in Linux. Don't you Like Open Office?
[20:35] <flick> (please don't say vi)
[20:35] <garu> flick I use Netbeans
[20:35] <Jake1> Is there a way in linux to navigate to some directory with nautilus and then switch to a terminal in that specific directory?
[20:35] <murkyMurk> vi
[20:36] <MasterShrek> isaacj87, im not really good with sound issues, but u should pastebin the output, if any, of: lsmod | grep snd
[20:36] <Fryguy--> flick: fine i won't say vim, even though i already did.  emacs
[20:36] <sco50000> trident523: so what should i do?
[20:36] <jnc> flick: I've had good experience with Ruby and RubyGtk bindings, with glade to build the UI
[20:36] <Seveas> Jake1, apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[20:36] <Dan2552> beni: open office gets formatting extremely wrong in my experience
[20:36] <MasterShrek> oh nvm then isaacj87 dont pastebin that
[20:36] <trident523> sco50000: Do you have a backup of your xorg.conf?
[20:36] <kishan_> jake u need to install a scripts in nautilus
[20:36] <omegaweopon> There is a resource I need to add! Bleh I kept asking.  Bleh
[20:36] <Dyus> crdlb: ty
[20:36] <astro76> Jban, maybe from Word try saving as an older version doc format
[20:36] <BHSPitLappy> flick, Eclipse is somewhat popular (for an IDE, at least), though it is fat and java-based
[20:36] <murkyMurk> Jake1: just navigate in the terminal, it's easy
[20:36] <jnc> flick: many developers swear by Python and PyGtk bindings, I can't stand the Python language though
[20:36] <linux1> ok no when i set export CC=/usr/bin/gcc -j3   i get this message bash: export: `-j3': not a valid identifier
[20:36] <isaacj87> MasterShrek: haha okay
[20:36] <sco50000> trident523: i don't even know what that is
[20:36] <Jban> beni: Like I was saying before beni, I just tried now to open an Word2003 document from my Window's partition using OpenOffice on Ubuntu7.10, and non of the info came up correctly.
[20:36] <flick> Fryguy--, sorry... i will try vim - only i find it complicated to learn
[20:36] <Judgegeo> MasterShrek: I used easyBCD to add the linux boot, so i dont understand why it wont work?
[20:36] <teeheehee> what is the best resource for learning how to use IRC clients on ubuntu? anyone?
[20:36] <Seveas> linux1, export CC="/usr/bin/gcc -j3"
[20:36] <trident523> sco50000: Uh, sorry, I can't help really any furthur than that.
[20:36] <travkin> RUSSKIJ DRUMANDBASS SDELANO V ROSSII!
[20:36] <Fryguy--> flick: sure.  After you get over the initial learning curve though you are going to wonder why you didn't learn it a long time ago
[20:36] <flick> jnc, PyGtk is an ide?
[20:37] <MasterShrek> isaacj87, what u choose your custom sounds does it allow you to change the sound device or driver or something
[20:37] <sco50000> trident523: why?
[20:37] <fairway> i use wine with real office
[20:37] <jawee_> where is the lock file for apt-get?
[20:37] <MasterShrek> Judgegeo, i dont know, never used easyBCD
[20:37] <beni> Dan2552: Ok this will end in a war, but imho its the other way round. Most new MOffice 200X are NOT compatible with older versions! OO can save to PDF and any other free format thats much enough.
[20:37] <trident523> teeheehee: learning? The man pages? The help file?
[20:37] <garu> BHSPitLappy so, in terms of stability, there is no difference whatsoever?
[20:37] <MasterShrek> fairway, i dunno if its possible
[20:37]  * MasterShrek brb
[20:37] <sco50000> trident523: i can get files off my ubuntu partition from here in windows
[20:37] <ciaron> how can i see a list of who is connected to my samba shares?
[20:37] <hexno> anyone have a link that can help me install beryl on gusty gibson?
[20:37] <Ind[y]> Sorry, is your "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:37] <Pici> !beryl | hexno
[20:37] <ubotu> hexno: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[20:37] <garu> beni that's no war...its the truth :)!
[20:37] <Fryguy--> hexno: it's compiz-fusion now, not beryl
[20:38] <flick> Fryguy--, can i compile directly from vim? actually, if you know of a site where i can learn how to set it up for development it will be really great
[20:38] <kkathman> hexno,  install compiz-fusion instead
[20:38] <sco50000> lol, gusty gibson
[20:38] <kkathman> !compiz-fusion
[20:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:38] <hexno> !compiz
[20:38] <Dan2552> beni: OOo copes fine with the open formats, but not the MS office formats, maybe microsoft even do it on purpose. My documents appear the same between office 2007 and office xp and 2003
[20:38] <beni> Dan2552: If you present this reason for using MS Office that "Microsoft-only Presentations Stuff" which are closed-source etc is not supported by OO then we may staywith InternetExplorer because we miss ActiveX controls!
[20:38] <hexno> !compiz-fusion
[20:38] <Fryguy--> flick: you can do whatever you want in vim.  as for specific resources, i'd suggest reading the books/faqs on vim.org to start
[20:38] <Genotrius> Update: I rebooted and set my session specifically at GNOME, and my toolbars all come up and whatnot, but everything looks a little strange. Attempting to fix. If anyone wants to help, it's probably a better idea to PM me.
[20:38] <Pici> hexno: compiz-fusion is pre-installed on Gutsy
[20:38] <naranco> ntpdate doesnt work out of the box on gutsy gibbon? cant adjust the time from the gnome menu either. what gives...
[20:38] <Ind[y]> Sorry, is your "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:38] <Ind[y]> Sorry, is your "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:38] <Ind[y]> Sorry, is your "System"-->"About Ubuntu" there (Gutsy)?
[20:38] <flick> Fryguy--, thanks
[20:38] <dgjones> !repeat
[20:38] <linux1> severas tryed thats allready and only uses one core ? now sure whats up as make CC=/usr/bin/gcc -j3 works
[20:38] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:38] <Jban> Mel Gibson, the Linux version who likes all races?