[03:21] <amenado> Traveler4-> am expecting as minimum an lo  -- lo is loopback interface and it should exist on that directory, since it doesnt, something is amiss
[03:21] <bazhang> khaotik: ask, and if someone knows they will answer
[03:22] <webtoe> xavierpwns: did the .inf file come with any other files? and if so, are they in the same folder as the .inf?
[03:22] <amenado> whisperkiller-> change directory == cd
[03:22] <automads> I have got a "kernel panic" now, I .. Accidently shut down while Synaptic still was operating. Anything I can do?
[03:22] <Pici> whisperkiller: lshw should list all your devices.
[03:22] <whisperkiller> do i do cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless ?
[03:22] <xavierpwns> webtoe: hold on let me try something
[03:22] <Traveler4> amenado: Yeah... so what would the next step be?
[03:22] <Scunizi> amenado, I know I have a loop back and I only got "Is a directory" when initiating that command.
[03:22] <bazhang> talntid: the dell 1395 is the broadcom card
[03:22] <amenado> whisperkiller-> yes, and should see a list of chips names..
[03:22] <whisperkiller> pici i need the chipset for the wireless card
[03:23] <Lazarus> I have a question regarding VNC: I installed 8.04 on a PC, and I can vnc into the machine to "share" the desktop with the logged on user; but I want to be able to VNC into an entirely new session...so two people can use the computer at the same time.
[03:23] <whisperkiller> amenado thanks ill try it
[03:23] <mw-home> anyone in here know anything about fonts?
[03:23] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please Lazarus
[03:23] <amenado> Scunizi-> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf ?
[03:23] <poseidon> Does ubuntu have some sort of psuedo ctrl+alt+del ?
[03:23] <Lazarus> I've found a variety of "how to's" on the web, but can't get them to work...either get a bunch of errors, or I can connect, but I just get a grey screen with the X cursor.
[03:23] <sabhain> is there a specific channel for X11 / nvidia driver problems?
[03:23] <Pelo> mw-home, ask a specific question, what do you want to acheive ?
[03:23] <xavierpwns> webtoe: ok i've got a file named "wifi" and it's got all kinds of files in it
[03:23] <unop> poseidon, what do you want to do?
[03:23] <Lazarus> Since this is a busy forum, I'd be grateful for a privat message chat to discuss this.
[03:23] <Pelo> poseidon, ctrl alt backspace will restart X
[03:23] <Scunizi> amenado, yes.. when using cat.. however when using ls I get "all default eth0 lo vmnet1 & vmnet8
[03:24] <Pici> poseidon: ctrl-alt-backspace will restart xwindows, you'd have to invoke the sysrq keys to reboot the entire machine.
[03:24] <khaotik> well i had my wireless chip working when i installed ubuntu from a copy i downloaded off of the site. my wireless worked perfect after reading every forum out there. i had to do a full reinstall of ubuntu but this time i used the disk they sent me in the mail and now the same way i got my wireless to work no longer works. if that makes any sense?
[03:24] <bazhang> Lazarus: wrong channel for Hardy
[03:24] <amenado> Traveler4-> umm let me think for a few..
[03:24] <Llewxam> anyone that know how to work with alsa and internal mics on laptops? it used to work before now it won't record anything.
[03:24] <Pici> Lazarus: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[03:24] <mw-home> Pelo: It seems like helvetica in firefox isn't available for me.  Instead, I get the default sans-serif font.  Am wondering if anyone else faces the same problem.
[03:24] <whisperkiller> amenado which one of these is the chipset for my wireless card?
[03:24] <Jeffreyf> wil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/HowTo/Switching_From_VMWare_To_VirtualBox:_.vmdk_To_.vdi_Using_Qemu_+_VdiTool
[03:24] <Lazarus> bazhang: sorry; I'm new to Ubuntu...I just sawa  message from Pici tellign me where to go. Thanks!
[03:24] <Pelo> !fonts | mw-home try this
[03:24] <ubotu> mw-home try this: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:24] <amenado> Traveler4-> did i typed cat? i meant ls -la /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf   my typo earlier
[03:24] <unop> poseidon, ctrl+alt+del works at a virtual terminal -- which you can get to by ctrl+alt+FX  (X being a number from 1-12)
[03:24] <automads> Msg: 12.333078 kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init
[03:25] <webtoe> xavierpwns: when you do the ndiswrapper -i you need to make sure that you point to the .inf file for your driver and that the driver is in the original folder that it came from
[03:25] <khaotik> is there a reason for this?
[03:25] <amenado> whisperkiller-> match it with lshw -C network  names should be related to what is listed
[03:25] <mw-home> thanks
[03:25] <webtoe> a .inf is just a text file which points to other files and if the .inf can't find these other files it will have a problem
[03:25] <Traveler4> amenado: ah, that's different. Let me try that.
[03:25] <xavierpwns> webtoe: it is and i did. i had to double check
[03:25] <khaotik> and yes i am working with the dreaded bcm43xx
[03:25] <tseug> when i type 'top' in terminal, it says my udevd is taking up 91% of CPU.  what can i do about this???
[03:25] <webtoe> xavierpwns: well maybe it just hates you  then...
[03:26] <webtoe> xavierpwns: let me have a think
[03:26] <xavierpwns> webtoe: that's what im thinking :[ this is horrible
[03:26] <Jeffreyf> Wil, are you still here?
[03:26] <Pelo> tseug, do you have a lot of usb devices pluged in ?
[03:26] <whisperkiller> http://www.pastebin.ca/962904
[03:26] <webtoe> xavierpwns: what wirless card is it again? what does sudo lspci say?
[03:26] <tseug> pelo, no no cd , no usb no nothing
[03:26] <khaotik> it is starting to drive me crazy, i really need my wireless to work for school and my job because i went full install of ubuntu
[03:26] <whisperkiller> so i type lshw -C ?
[03:26] <Pelo> tseug, is this recent or is it always like this ?
[03:27] <whisperkiller> or lshw -C network?
[03:27] <amenado> whisperkiller-> yes..
[03:27] <tseug> pelo, this has happened ever since i've upgraded from feisty to gutsy
[03:27] <Pelo> !who | whisperkiller
[03:27] <ubotu> whisperkiller: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:27] <webtoe> xavierpwns: Don't worry, you're not the only one, and this isn't the only card. Wireless is a pain in the backside due to the way different manufacturers make cards. Sometimes, differnet windows drivers will work and others wont'
[03:27] <xavierpwns> webtoe: god all these names popped up. i know it's a broadcom
[03:27] <Pelo> tseug, no idean, try searching for  udev 100% cpu in the forum
[03:27] <Jeffreyf> wil: did you get me link?
[03:27] <tseug> pelo, what forum
[03:28] <Pelo> tseug, www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:28] <tseug> pelo thanks.
[03:28] <webtoe> xavierpwns: i would tell you to dump it in a paste bin but I don't know of any (never had to use them)
[03:28] <amenado> whisperkiller-> yes.. lshw -C network
[03:28] <wil> Jeffreyf, sorry, still here and see the link.... someone at my front door 3:30AM.... got scared and turned off lights e.t.c.!
[03:28] <webtoe> thank you amenado
[03:28]  * Pelo hopes hardy makes him surplus to requriements as a helper
[03:28] <khaotik> i dont know if i should reboot with another copy of the downloaded file or use the disk they sent to me. does this even make a difference?
[03:29] <Traveler4> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61548/
[03:29] <amenado> webtoe you are welcome
[03:29] <Jeffreyf> wil: not tested, but it is a start
[03:29] <xavierpwns> webtoe: i think im going to wait until 8.04 comes out, and use my desktop until then. if it doesn't work after 8.04 im going back to, dare i say it, XP :[
[03:29] <whisperkiller> ok does ipw3945 sound like the chipset for an intel wireless card?
[03:29] <Pici> whisperkiller: yes
[03:29] <usser> whisperkiller: indeed
[03:29] <whisperkiller> thanks guys
[03:30] <whisperkiller> i appreciate it
[03:30] <bazhang> whisperkiller: the best there is
[03:30] <webtoe> xavierpwns: That's a shame. Unfortunately wifi makers left us up a certain creek without a paddle and broadcom can be a bit of a pain due to how they make their cards
[03:30] <wil> Jeffreyf, didnt know it supported vmdk, il do it right now and let you know... tbh, I didnt even try opening it, I just thought vmdk was propietry and nothing else could use it
[03:30] <webtoe> Xavierpwns: sorry i couldn't be more help but please try again with the next release and we'll try again!
[03:30] <webtoe> the open source community is nothing if not persistent....
[03:30] <xavierpwns> webtoe: exactly :/ i'll try with Dell tomorrow when they are open and see what they can do. thanks for trying. :] you've been the most help i've had all day
[03:30] <bazhang> Pelo: that will never happen ;]
[03:31] <amenado> Traveler4-> its there as expected..am still perplexed why it can not obtain an ip address.. you have a good cat5 cable?  can you swiitch your cables between those other working pc connectd to same router?
[03:31] <Jeffreyf> wil: it doesn't convert it......the link tells you how to convert it.......make sure you keep a safe copy of your original file just in case
[03:31] <khaotik> webtoe: could you tell me if i am doing something wrong trying to install my broadcom driver?
[03:31] <Pelo> bazhang, it's just that the questions here are getting harder and harder, and I'm not that 1337 to begin with
[03:31] <amenado> Traveler4-> i suspect its the cable not connected to the router, or not plugged in tight, loose connection perhaps?
[03:32] <bazhang> Pelo: just wait for wubi support ;]
[03:32] <robby_kane> i was just in #K3B
[03:32] <whisperkiller> bazhang: who makes that chipset?
[03:32] <xavierpwns> khaotik: throw it out the window
[03:32] <robby_kane> and everyone is away and i cant burn a dvd-rw
[03:32] <webtoe> khaotik: I might be able to but I don't have a broadcom chip so I can only offer adivce, not tell you what to do
[03:32] <Scunizi> amenado, good thought.. "Make sure it's plugged in".. or maybe there's a power outage :)
[03:32] <Traveler4> amenado: The cat5 cable has worked fine in the past, and earlier today when Windows was installed. I dunno, I guess I'll keep messing with it.
[03:32] <bazhang> whisperkiller: intel and it is the best supported in linux/ubuntu bar none
[03:32] <robby_kane> i got my drive to burn a cd-rw
[03:32] <Pelo> bazhang, does the word "NEVER !!" mean anything to you ?
[03:32] <whisperkiller> does aircrack-ng support it?
[03:32] <bazhang> Pelo: ;]
[03:32] <robby_kane> but im going to reinstall ubunto so that i can install winxp 2
[03:33] <robby_kane> enyone know how to get k3b to burn a dvd-rw
[03:33] <wil> Jeffreyf, thanks so much! I can't believe I didn't try this earlier.... doesnt need converting or anything! virtualbox supports vmdk files out of the box! I just set the hard drive file to it and it works straight away! brilliant, thanks
[03:33] <Traveler4> amenado: There is also a light on the back of the motherboard where I plug the cable in that lights up when there's a connection... and it's lit.
[03:33] <Scunizi> amenado, maybe manually setting ip & dns
[03:33] <amenado> Traveler4-> try switching the cables, one from a working unit
[03:33] <bazhang> robby_kane: do windows first then ubuntu will be easiest
[03:33] <khaotik> thats what i am about to do xavier. see whats bothering me is i had it working seamless due to this thread i read. after i did a reboot it does not work
[03:33] <Traveler4> Nothing has changed since this morning.
[03:33] <whisperkiller> im a net-sec student and im trying to put together a security suite together
[03:33] <amenado> Traveler4-> try switching the cables, one from a working unit..just for kicks..
[03:33] <usser> robby_kane: shouldn't be any problem if you have dvd writer that supports dvd-rw
[03:33] <robby_kane> ya but i want to burn stuff to a dvd-rw
[03:33] <khaotik> i am doing the exact same thing i did when i got the light to turn blue
[03:33] <Pelo> robby_kane, you just select the drive to burn to after you hit the burn button
[03:33] <robby_kane> has nothing to do with installing windows
[03:34] <robby_kane> i did
[03:34] <robby_kane> it dowent want to burn to the dvd
[03:34] <robby_kane> the dvd is empty
[03:34] <Pelo> robby_kane, there should be a menu entry in tools to format the rw media
[03:34] <Traveler4> amenado: That's a rather difficult thign with the way this network is set up... but I'll see what I can do.
[03:34] <amenado> Traveler4-> possibly the port on that router has gone bad or just faulty for now?  reset the router too..offcourse youd get disconnected here  temporarily
[03:34] <robby_kane> cant its blank
[03:34] <robby_kane> rofl
[03:34] <robby_kane> it wont let me
[03:34] <Traveler4> amenado: I'll be back in a little bit, I suppose.
[03:35] <bazhang> !enter | robby_kane
[03:35] <ubotu> robby_kane: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:35] <Pelo> robby_kane, hardware problem then
[03:35] <amenado> Traveler4-> only way to verify...physical touch..hehe
[03:35] <robby_kane> no cose i burned a dvd-rw with ubuntu on it
[03:35] <jaffarkelshac> how do i clear ubuntu termial history
[03:35] <robby_kane> but when im in ubuntu i cant burn a dvd-rw
[03:35] <Scunizi> amenado, these kind of issues Traveler4 is having are sometimes the most aggravating..
[03:36]  * Scunizi is back (gone 01:27:48)
[03:36] <wil> Jeffreyf, doesnt work after all... it boots up, but then I get ... PANIC: CPU too old for this kernel.
[03:36] <Pelo> robby_kane, whatare you tring to burn to the media ?
[03:36] <khaotik> i think i have tried every thread there is on the subject. i have tried every single way that i have read about and still nothing
[03:36] <amenado> Scunizi-> been on installs that extends way past midnight because of loose wiring..
[03:36] <robby_kane> it dosent madder what i try to burn... but im trying to burn an iso
[03:36] <usser> jaffarkelshac: just echo "" > ~/.bash_history
[03:36] <laolaochin> Hi
[03:37] <Pelo> robby_kane, use the burn dvd image enrty in the tool menu
[03:37] <Scunizi> amenado, :)  :/
[03:37] <laolaochin> My ubuntu cannot recognize the dvd drive in my laptop.
[03:37] <jaffarkelshac> usser cool
[03:37] <robby_kane> i did
[03:37] <robby_kane> it wont burn
[03:37] <Pelo> robby_kane, and yes it does matter , wheter you are trying to burn music, data , or iso
[03:37] <amenado> Scunizi-> what is worst is when patch panels are not labeled and you have to trace it yourself under the spaghettis of wiring
[03:37] <robby_kane> data right now
[03:37] <khaotik> is there no help for this problem? maybe i should be googling threads on how to reinstall vista
[03:37] <robby_kane> but iv also tryed an iso
[03:38] <webtoe> amendo: Amen bruuuther!!!
[03:38] <Pelo> robby_kane, re you sure you don'T have the tryout thingy enabled, ? check the various options as you go
[03:38] <robby_kane> when i go to burn it just ejects the disk
[03:38] <keith> Haloo test
[03:38] <Scunizi> amenado, I've only seen those.. never worked on them.. spaghetti is right
[03:38] <bazhang> keith: success
[03:38] <webtoe> amendo: you should see my office...
[03:38] <Pelo> robby_kane, did you think that the meida might be damaged ?
[03:38] <robby_kane> it reads as blank
[03:38] <Pelo> khaotik, what is your issue again ?
[03:38] <robby_kane> iv never burned enything
[03:38] <amenado> someone could make tons of money, with non tearing labels and labels all these cables in the wiring closet...hmm an idea.
[03:39] <Pelo> robby_kane, get a regular dvd to burn to
[03:39] <bazhang> robby_kane: try another disk
[03:39] <robby_kane> im out of disks
[03:39] <davmonster> patch panels should always be labeled
[03:39] <robby_kane> :(
[03:39] <webtoe> amendo: look on slashdot. They;ve had huge conversations on just that sort of thing before
[03:39] <laolaochin> hey robby what is your problem ?
[03:39] <davmonster> in theory.. :)
[03:39] <laolaochin> i might have the same problem as you
[03:39] <robby_kane> when i go to burn k3b says there is an error
[03:39] <bazhang> robby_kane: no way to buy more?
[03:39] <khaotik> i had my broadcom chip working fine. i found a thread that worked. then i had to do a full reinstall of ubuntu and now the same way does not work
[03:39] <robby_kane> and ejects the disk
[03:39] <laolaochin> oh..
[03:39] <laolaochin> i tried to burn an iso
[03:39] <tyler_1> how can I read a dmp file using linux?
[03:40] <laolaochin> but my computer doesnt even recognize the dvd drive
[03:40] <amenado> davmonster you have not visited wiring closets of financial institutions..hehehe
[03:40] <khaotik> ubuntu forums thread 575757 or something like that
[03:40] <webtoe> khaotik: what was the way you did it before?
[03:40] <Pelo> g'night folks
[03:40] <webtoe> night
[03:40] <tyler_1> night Pelo
[03:40] <khaotik> well when i first installed ubuntu i installed it after making the disk from the file i downloaded from the website
[03:40] <bazhang> cya
[03:40] <davmonster> there is actually a sport on cable unravelling
[03:40] <davmonster> about*
[03:40] <amenado> enjoy the evening
[03:41] <davmonster> it's really sad, but it's true
[03:41] <khaotik> this time i used the actual disk that i got in the mail.
[03:41] <dave11> does Kspread have the millenium bug?
[03:41] <bazhang> and offtopic
[03:41] <khaotik> does this even make a difference?
[03:41] <robby_kane> is it posible to make a ubuntu disk with extra stuff on it?
[03:41] <deniz__> i have screenlets installed...how do i use them?
[03:41] <robby_kane> like if i wanted to put 2 games on the disk with ubuntu
[03:41] <deniz__> robby_kane, ya, look at ubuntu ultimate
[03:41] <deniz__> robby_kane, o that i dont no
[03:41] <bazhang> robby_kane: if you cant figure out how to burn?
[03:42] <smallfry> how do i get the sound working when i play movies?
[03:42] <robby_kane> no its just i burned a copy of winxp a sec ago
[03:42] <khaotik> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575750
[03:42] <robby_kane> on a cd-rw
[03:42] <robby_kane> not telling how btw
[03:42] <khaotik> that is the thread i used the first time and it worked like a charm
[03:42] <webtoe> khaotik: it could. Depends if the version has changed. When it does its called a regression. let me have a look at that look and maybe i can help. Otherwise maybe keep googling?
[03:43] <Traveler8> Shit, well, sorry guys.
[03:43] <dave11> when I type 2008 into kspread it changes it to 1905????
[03:43] <robby_kane> and i dont want to erase my ubuntu disk to put stuff on it
[03:43] <bazhang> language Traveler8
[03:43] <automads> Anyone know how to deal with Kernel Panic ?
[03:43] <Traveler8> oops, sorry.
[03:43] <smallfry> how do i get the sound working when i play movies?
[03:43] <fara> hay
[03:44] <robby_kane> i was just wondering if there was a way to edit an iso to add more files
[03:44] <khaotik> i appreciate your help
[03:44] <bazhang> robby_kane: there is
[03:44] <Traveler8> amenado, scunizi: Thanks for all your help, guys. Turns out all I needed to do was unplug everything then plug it back in.
[03:44] <automads> Me too
[03:44] <webtoe> khoatik: did you follow the instructions in that thread and get any errors at any point:
[03:44] <webtoe> ?
[03:44] <robby_kane> can u show me how rofl?
[03:44] <facu> download the codecs?
[03:45] <webtoe> khoatik: if you already have mentioned them in this room then just say and I'll search through and find them
[03:45] <Traveler8> amenado, scunizi: I turned off that machine, then unplugged the modem and the router, then plugged them back in then turned that machine back on. Bam. Connected.
[03:45] <khaotik> i try to spend all the time i have googling an answer but it does not help having a pregnant girl wanting all my attention. 2 headaches for the price of one
[03:45] <bazhang> !yay | Traveler8
[03:45] <ubotu> Traveler8: Glad you made it! :-)
[03:45] <amenado> Traveler4-> cool,
[03:45] <Scunizi> Traveler8, ya hoooo
[03:45] <robby_kane> screw it il just re-burn the ubuntu disk after i install windows
[03:46] <Traveler8> Thanks everyone, sorry for leading you on this wild goose chase. I guess we all just overthunk a bit.
[03:46] <webtoe> khaotik: then tend to the girl. I'll wait. My girlfriend never does! I know the feeling
[03:46] <Traveler8> I'm getting off now though, talk to you later.
[03:46] <khaotik> i do i have given up on the computer
[03:47] <webtoe> bloody machines
[03:47] <khaotik> she asleep for now
[03:47] <robby_kane> is there a way to side the partition that has ubuntu on it to make room to insatll windows?
[03:47] <automads> Kernel Panic! Any hope / new install?
[03:47] <robby_kane> way(
[03:47] <robby_kane> bah i cant type today
[03:47] <bazhang> !dualboot
[03:47] <webtoe> khaotik: so have you receive any errors? if so what are they?
[03:47] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:47] <transience> i want to replace macOSX 10.4 with ubuntu. I have an intel iMac. Can this be done?
[03:48] <bazhang> transience: yes it can
[03:48] <luckylin> i know this isn't linux related but does anyone know how I can block www.limewire.com in my router (linksys) ?
[03:48] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Anybody gotten their Linux+ certification?
[03:48] <luckylin> my sister has a problem with limewiere
[03:48] <luckylin> i dont want to get a letter :P
[03:48] <bazhang> luckylin: go into the router through your browser and set it there
[03:48] <Stroganoff> luckylin: most routers cant block specific applications/ports
[03:48] <luckylin> ok thanks
[03:49] <khaotik> no. no errors
[03:49] <Stroganoff> without hacked firmware
[03:49] <luckylin> i'll check it out
[03:49] <Stroganoff> can not.
[03:49] <luckylin> it's a WRT54G , i can't get hacked firmware cuz it's not the linux model
[03:49] <Stroganoff> this is one of the most hacked routers
[03:49] <transience> ok, is there a special way to install, or can i just use the graphical install?
[03:50] <bazhang> transience: dual boot or only ubuntu
[03:50] <webtoe> khaotik: can you type sudo ndiswrapper -l and tell me what it says
[03:50] <transience> only ubuntu, i'm fed up with OSX
[03:50] <webtoe> khaotik: does it say driver present. device presetn
[03:50] <Stroganoff> transience: i'd use the alternate the but live cd should work as well
[03:50] <webtoe> or words to that effect
[03:50] <transience> okay, thanks
[03:51] <khaotik> i have not done anything to my machine yet. it has a fresh copy without any changes
[03:51] <adlin5000> not sure if this is a hardy bug or not so if this is the wromg place to ask let me know. I just installed gxine (along with all dependencies). now all video (totem, gxine, firefox) all have a blue tint. Im running 8.04 beta with everything updated. any thoughts?
[03:52] <khaotik> i didnt know if i should go ahead and try again. i am getting pretty good at it
[03:52] <bazhang> khaotik: without specifying the precise errors you got when doing that walkthrough there is no way to help
[03:52] <webtoe> khaotik: so what does it say way you type ndiswrapper?
[03:52] <bazhang> adlin5000: #ubuntu+1 please
[03:52] <khaotik> command not found
[03:52] <webtoe> khaotik: yeah go through the method described in that thread you posted
[03:52] <webtoe> see if it works
[03:52] <webtoe> looks right to me
[03:52] <usser> adlin5000: did you try switching video driver ie xv to opengl perhaps
[03:52] <webtoe> khaotik: you need to install ndiswrapper
[03:53] <usser> adlin5000: its usually in player'
[03:53] <khaotik> i rebooted again last night and was hoping to get some tips before attemting again, you know just if there was another way i dont know about
[03:53] <usser> adlin5000: preferencese somewhere
[03:53] <khaotik> give me one sec
[03:53] <bazhang> adlin5000: please head to the hardy channel for discussion of that
[03:54] <webtoe> khaotik: ok
[03:54] <webtoe> getting more beer.....
[03:54] <webtoe> !beer
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <Serveck> is there any way to run my windows xp hard drive within ubuntu? im not talking about installing .exe's, im talking about accessing progams from a second drive
[03:55] <Fa> kiss this   (___*___)
[03:55] <__mikem> !ops | Fa
[03:55] <ubotu> Fa: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[03:55] <bazhang> !admin | Fa
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <webtoe> Serveck: yes there is. It should Just Work TM
[03:56] <webtoe> Serveck: are you wanting to edit the files or just read them?
[03:56] <__mikem> nalioth, I would have just banned him
[03:57] <F3d0rA> Is the Video Resolution limited by the graphics card or the TV/Monitor?LCD?
[03:58] <F3d0rA> Or both?
[03:58] <simtower> both
[03:58] <webtoe> F3s0rA: both. Depends on what can do what
[03:58] <wers> how do I install the groupmsg plugin for pidgin? :)
[03:58] <Llewxam> anyone mind helping me with my internal mic issue on a hp dv6000 laptop with the alsa 1.0~14 driver? the internal mic used to work and it seems that after the update i can't get it working.
[03:58] <F3d0rA> SO if my Grpahics card will display up to 1900 x 1200 that does not mean that it will be available because of my LCD?
[03:59] <webtoe> wers: you have to download the plugin pack from their website and compile it yourself
[03:59] <F3d0rA> Will I at least see all the resolutions or not in the display properties?
[03:59] <F3d0rA> Or only see what is supported?
[03:59] <webtoe> F3d0rA: you can display the maximum resolution that both your monitor and graphics card can support
[04:00] <F3d0rA> hm, so if my monitor does not support 1900 x 12000 I will not see that option in the graphics card display properites?
[04:01] <F3d0rA> Reason I ask is I thought it was available and did a firmware update and thought that might have changed its display proerty settings I could be wrong
[04:01] <webtoe> F3d0rA: No there would be no point. That and it could be potentially dangerous to display it (in the old days ofCRT anyway)
[04:02] <Swanonymous> hey all, quick question (Hopefully).. why does firefox not accept the no-download java on partypoker?
[04:02] <webtoe> F3d0rA: updated what firmware? its possible that a driver update has decided that a particular card can't actually support a certain mode
[04:02] <simtower> dont recommended to play poker on internet
[04:03] <webtoe> doni't gamble at all! i hear its addictive.... :P
[04:03] <Llewxam> anyone mind helping me with my internal mic issue on a hp dv6000 laptop with the alsa 1.0~14 driver? the internal mic used to work and it seems that after the update i can't get it working.
[04:03] <Swanonymous> simtower: i play alot on doze but i dont like having to dual boot to play it, so i found a no-download at two places, but cant make it work :p
[04:03] <deniz__> plz tell me how to run screenlets
[04:03] <joot> I bet its not :0
[04:03] <xb3rt> Does anyone here play AlienArena08?  I have it installed in my games listing under the applications tab, but if I try to launch the game my computer automatically reboots.
[04:03] <simtower> Swanonymous: dont recommended to play poker on internet
 I bet its not :0 <-- lol'd
[04:03] <xb3rt> webtoe: so is air
[04:04] <webtoe> Llewxam: Sorry don't know anything about microphones. Have you made sure all the volume settings are correct?
[04:04] <fyrstorm> how do i connect to wireless in terminal
[04:04] <joot> Swanonymous, hee hee
[04:04] <Llewxam> webtoe: yes. all set to high
[04:05] <DCRa> Hm Can anyone help me with a general SSH question? It has nothing to do with ubuntu, but the support around here is amazing
[04:05] <webtoe> fyrstorm: depends on what sort of encrption you're using. If plain wep or none then just use iwconfig
[04:05] <webtoe> otherwise you might need to use wpa_supplicant
[04:05] <usser> DCRa: shoot
[04:05] <deniz__> how do i use aircrack-ng?
[04:05] <carlzenox> ok i downloaded kismet but how do i use it and aircrack-ng?
[04:06] <fyrstorm> webtoe, how do I use iwconfig to do it? I am struggling with it.
[04:06] <DCRa> I need the command 'sudo' to work. Whenever I use it it says bash: sudo: command not found.
[04:06] <khaotik> rebooting
[04:06] <carlzenox> what do u need sudo for?
[04:06] <webtoe> deniz_ your card needs to be put in monitor mode using airmon-ng. It may not support this. Then you need to retrieve packets then crack them with airsnort
[04:06] <kenny``> I`m having problems with Firefox! are there any other browsers?
[04:06] <Flannel> DCRa: You're probably not SSHing into sudo
[04:06] <randy_>  windows games and apps to work has been disastrous--does anybody have any advice?
[04:06] <usser> DCRa: that's weird it works over ssh for me
[04:06] <DCRa> It's for webhosting, as I said it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[04:06] <Flannel> DCRa: er, into a system with sudo.
[04:06] <webtoe> fyrstorm: iwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid name here>
[04:07] <webtoe> fyrstorm: need to know more about your set up to help
[04:07] <Adys> Anyone knows what the lightest browser using webkit engine is on linux?
[04:07] <Pedd1> can someone please help me? When I try 'startx', only  my cursor and the B&W background thing load. Any ideas would be appreciated :D
[04:07] <Scunizi> randy_, dual boot
[04:07] <randy_> what does dual boot mean?
[04:07] <webtoe> Adys: Konqueror. Don't think there are any others
[04:07] <kenny``> I`m having problems with Firefox! are there any other browsers available (in patitude or smth)?
[04:07] <Adys> Konqueror uses khtml
[04:08] <Adys> it's similar but not what Im seeking
[04:08] <quittt> randy_, two active operating system at one PC
[04:08] <webtoe> Adys: which is webkit. Same differnece or so i believed
[04:08] <Adys> webkit is a fork of khtml
[04:08] <webtoe> Adys: ah, i see.
[04:08] <carlzenox> how do i use kismet :S
[04:08] <quittt> randy_, you can have a lot of operating systems in one PC... hehe
[04:09] <Adys> webtoe: someone gave me a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skipstone in another chan :)
[04:09] <randy_> Ah.  I do still have windows installed, but it runs so crappy.
[04:09] <Adys> ill go with that i guess
[04:09] <khaotik> :) :) :) :)
[04:09] <kenny``> I`m having problems with Firefox! are there any other browsers available (in patitude or smth)?
[04:09] <Flannel> Adys: There are no others.  Epiphany plans to, but not for a bit
[04:09] <khaotik> i am connected wireless again  wooohooooooooooo
[04:09] <Adys> Flannel: See link above
[04:10] <webtoe> Adys: Never heard of it but yes, sounds good. Thought konqueror guys were supposed to be wedging webkit back in
[04:10] <carlzenox> FATAL:  Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, unlink() failed: Permission denied
[04:10] <webtoe> khaotik: good!
[04:10] <khaotik> webtoe: hey i appreciate your time you gave me
[04:10] <Flannel> Adys: That's not in Ubuntu
[04:10] <webtoe> khaotik: not a problem
[04:10] <Adys> uhm so? :)
[04:10] <Adys> it runs
[04:11] <khaotik> much thanks to Darkstang too. u rock
[04:11] <webtoe> Adys: but but ....its not in the repos......
[04:11] <Flannel> Adys: Are you trolling? or what?  You ask a question which you already have the answer to, for what reason?
[04:11] <webtoe> :P
[04:11] <Adys> Im not asking a question anymore
[04:11] <Adys> I said someone gave me this link in another chan
[04:11] <Adys> And Im highlighting it to you because you thought there were no others
[04:12] <Adys> which is wrong *shrugs*
[04:12] <khaotik> now can anyone help with a pregnant girl?
[04:12] <webtoe> Adys: yes, thank you.
[04:12] <khaotik> :)
[04:12] <deniz__> khaotik, r u serious?
[04:12] <Flannel> Adys: No others in Ubuntu.  This is an Ubuntu channel, we usually don't recommend things that aren't in the repositories.
[04:12] <khaotik> jokes man
[04:12] <webtoe> khaotik: what help do you want... my gf is training to be a midwife,... :P
[04:12] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:13] <deniz__> khaotik, well it is offtopic lol
[04:13] <webtoe> lol
[04:13] <patrickva> lawlz
[04:13] <khaotik> any of you familiar with icecat
[04:13] <khaotik> ?
[04:13] <fyrstorm> webtoe, Ok I issued iwconfig wlan0 essid "name".  It didn't associate with my network
[04:13] <usser> icecast?
[04:14] <khaotik> icecat. the new mozilla browser
[04:14] <usser> bwah, how many freaking names a browser needs
[04:14] <usser> there's firefox,iceweaseal and now that
[04:14] <webtoe> khaotik: no but just googled it. Seems like a purely ethical choice to me
[04:15] <Flannel> khaotik: no, the new GNU browser.
[04:15] <webtoe> fyrstorm: I assume your wireless is an open network?
[04:15] <CookieMonster> how do i check for problems on a linux partition through windows
[04:15] <deniz__> y does mozilla make alot of webbrowsers??
[04:15] <khaotik> well i downloaded it but cant get it to show up on my drop down menus or anything
[04:15] <fyrstorm> webtoe, I just opened it for this purpose
[04:15] <Pedd1> please help :O
[04:15] <Pedd1> I get this error when trying to open *anything*:
[04:15] <Pedd1> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:15] <Pedd1> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:15] <Flannel> CookieMonster: You can't.  In linux, `sudo touch /forcefsck` then reboot into linux.
[04:15] <FloodBot1> Pedd1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:15] <khaotik> sorry flannel
[04:15] <Pedd1> oops
[04:15] <CookieMonster> ok
[04:15] <CookieMonster> how do i reinstall grub then
[04:16] <usser> CookieMonster: that's not possible windows is too dumb to recognize linux partitions
[04:16] <webtoe> khaotik: probably because they didn't include th proper gnome .desktop files in the package? should start fine from the terminal
[04:16] <kenny``> I`m having problems with Firefox! are there any other browsers available (in aptitude or smth)?
[04:16] <Flannel> !grub | CookieMonster, first link
[04:16] <ubotu> CookieMonster, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:16] <kenny``> I`m having problems with Firefox! are there any other browsers available (in aptitude or smth)?
[04:16] <kenny``> HELP
[04:16] <Flynsarmy> Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch tabs in Gedit? I tried ctrl+tab but it didn't work
[04:16] <khaotik> i was just wondering if there was a way to make an icon or something for my top panel
[04:16] <CookieMonster> umm
[04:16] <Flannel> !browsers | kenny``
[04:16] <usser> kenny``: there are dozens try opera for a change
[04:16] <ubotu> kenny``: Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)
[04:16] <CookieMonster> my grub is just corrput
[04:16] <khaotik> it works great from the terminal
[04:16] <CookieMonster> it wouldnt boot up
[04:16] <CookieMonster> so i had to rewrite the windows mbr
[04:16] <Stroganoff> kenny``: sudo apt-get install kazehakase dillo
[04:17] <kenny``> thanks :)
[04:17] <webtoe> khaotik: yes you can. don't know how
[04:17] <anaoum>
[04:17] <anaoum>
[04:17] <Adys> Flynsarmy:  ctrl tab (selects the tabs), and then arrow right or arrow left
[04:17] <webtoe> fyrstorm: can you see your wireless essid when you run the following command sudo iwlist scan
[04:17] <Matt123> Wha
[04:17] <cdecarlo_> hi, not sure if this is common problem or not, but it seems like the font size used for the window manager and all the application is set randomly on every login!?! anyone know what going on?
[04:18] <Flynsarmy> Adys: Ctrl+Tab selects the 'New' button
[04:18] <Peddy> can someone please tell me where to find the Gnome error log
[04:18] <Adys> Flynsarmy:  New button?
[04:18]  * Adys doesnt have such button
[04:18] <fyrstorm> webtoe, it says the interface doesn't support scanning and is down
[04:18] <Flynsarmy> Adys: in gedit? it's the first button in the toolbar. buttons are: New Open Save Print Undo Redo etc
[04:18] <webtoe> adys: could he be using alt-tab?
[04:18] <Adys> oh
[04:18] <webtoe> or just tab?
[04:18] <Adys> i dont use the toolbar
[04:18] <cdecarlo_> hi, not sure if this is common problem or not, but it seems like the font size used for the window manager and all the application is set randomly on every login!?! anyone know what going on?
[04:18] <khaotik> is there a good thread to learn how to use xchat?
[04:19] <webtoe> fyrstorm: hmmm soudns like a problem to do with your network card rather than the software setup
[04:19] <Adys> Flynsarmy: if you dont need the toolbar, try turning it off
[04:19] <Stroganoff> cdecarlo_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure --phigh xserver-xorg
[04:19] <webtoe> fyrstorm: what card are you running
[04:19] <Adys> Flynsarmy:  should select the tab then
[04:19] <Flynsarmy> Adys: So no shortcut taht directly changes the tabs?
[04:19] <cdecarlo_> Stroganoff: thanks
[04:20] <fyrstorm> webtoe, it's an intel 4965 ag
[04:20] <Adys> Flynsarmy: Well seems not, apart from selecting a tab with ctrl tab and then using the arrow keys
[04:20] <Adys> but its a bit awkward
[04:20] <Peddy> can someone please help me? I get this error when trying to start X: http://pastebin.ca/962946
[04:20] <Adys> Can always file a feature request :)
[04:20] <fyrstorm> webtoe, I am in recovery console right now
[04:20] <Adys> Which Im tempted to do
[04:20] <Flynsarmy> Adys: I don't know how
[04:21] <Adys> Ill do it for you
[04:21] <Web_Warlord> is there anyone that can help me install drivers? i've been googling it using ubuntu forums and just fidling for like 5 hours anyone that can be of assistance?
[04:21] <Adys> Web_Warlord:  which drivers?
[04:21] <Web_Warlord> wireless
[04:22] <Stroganoff> Web_Warlord | !wireless
[04:22] <Stroganoff> !wireless | Web_Warlord
[04:22] <ubotu> Web_Warlord: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:22] <Stroganoff> ^^
[04:22] <khaotik> what kind of system do you have web_warlord?
[04:23] <webtoe> fyrstorm: hang on a sec. Just reading up about your card. Think it coudl be more to do with driver support than anything
[04:24] <webtoe> can you type the command dmesg for me. and look for something talking about your wireless card?
[04:24] <fyrstorm> webtoe, if I started in recovery console do I need to start the networking daemon?
[04:24] <Kles> okay um
[04:25] <Flynsarmy> Web_Warlord: dmesg | grep Wireless might help with that
[04:25] <FFForever> !pod
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <Kles> I'm trying to get Quake source ports to build by using "make"
[04:25] <Kles> but every single time, it gives me a load of errors
[04:25] <Web_Warlord> Flynsarmy i have the drivers downloaded i'm just not sure what to do now
[04:25] <Web_Warlord> cause
[04:25] <Kles> and I've tried about 8 different ports that all screw up
[04:25] <Web_Warlord> there are these files
[04:25] <Kles> so I'm thinking it's an OS problem
[04:25] <Web_Warlord> and i don't know what to do with them
[04:25] <FloodBot1> Web_Warlord: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <orbisvicis> i recently overwrote some files and broke a package, how can i remove the package without removing the dependencies and not break apt ?
[04:25] <FFForever> what should i use for my ipod classic, amarok keeps destroying my play list, and the default ubuntu player won't play any of my music....
[04:25] <khaotik> is there a way i can load my windows NeverWinterNights onto ubuntu
[04:25] <luckylin> Just a quick ThankYou to the ones who told me how to block websites and keywords in my WRT54G :-) it works! No more p2p networks at this IP :-)
[04:25] <Kles> the terminal is spitting out a load of errors
[04:26] <fyrstorm> webtoe, basically I totally screwed xorg and need to get networking going to try and recover it
[04:26] <blbrown> Is hardy being released 4/1?
[04:26] <webtoe> fyrstorm: no there is no networking daemon per se. Just a load of scritps that usually get run.
[04:26] <fyrstorm> blbrown, 4/24 or something like that
[04:26] <webtoe> fystorm: then you ned to get your machine to start you up in a console mode
[04:27] <webtoe> fyrstorm: while in recovery mode, use the command nano /etc/inittab
[04:27] <khaotik> is there a way to load games onto ubuntu?
[04:27] <usser> khaotik: neverwinternights 1 should have no problem running in wine
[04:27] <fyrstorm> webtoe, I am in console
[04:27] <khaotik> i have never used wine
[04:27] <Kles> does anyone know how to get stuff to build?
[04:27] <webtoe> fyrstorm: hang on i was doing a fedora-ism just then
[04:27] <whisperkiller> how come when i go to places and select home folder it doesnt do anything all of a sudden?
[04:27] <dave11> !hardy
[04:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:27] <Kles> because no matter what I try to build using "make", I always get a long string of errors
[04:28] <khaotik> do i insert the disk into my drive and let it run, or do i open wine to install
[04:28] <khaotik> ?
[04:28] <whisperkiller> also when i click on a mp3 file it changes from a music not to a sheet of paper and wont do anything
[04:28] <usser> khaotik: well its easy just head on to winehq.com grab the latest .deb install it
[04:28] <Kles> khaotik: Wine just works with Windows stuff
[04:28] <Kles> also um
[04:28] <Kles> anyone know of decent sound drivers?
[04:28] <Kles> the default stuff (ALSA) seems to just crackle like a campfire
[04:28] <dave11> hardy is lts cool
[04:28] <orbisvicis> Kles, running configure should catch missing packages. running make and getting errors usually means the wrong dev packages are installed
[04:28] <Kles> and it's driving me nuts
[04:28] <usser> khaotik: and then when you pop in cd just right click autorun there should be open with... type in wine
[04:29] <Kles> orbisvicis: How do I do that?
[04:29] <khaotik> much appreciated. will give it a try
[04:29] <THEO|WxC> Graphics Question: I'm wanting to animate a bunch of 2d graphics into a high-res (HDTV) canvas. Source format is SVG, output format is sequence of frames in PNG. Any animation program suggestions? Tried Synfig (no go, since it doesn't import SVG), Blender (doable, but way too complicated for my needs), and GIMp Animation Package (poor documentation, can't figure out how to use it). Is there anything else?
[04:29] <Peddy> can someone please help me? I get this error when trying to start X: http://pastebin.ca/962946 :)
[04:29] <orbisvicis> Kles, for starters sudo apt-get build-dep XX, then google
[04:29] <Kles> is the "XX" something I have to fill in
[04:29] <Kles> or do I add that on there
[04:30] <orbisvicis> fill in
[04:30] <xb3rt> anybody know how to set up my laptop to act as an access point?
[04:30] <THEO|WxC> Peddy: are you unable to start X at all?
[04:30] <Kles> erm
[04:30] <Kles> where do I find what to fill in to "XX"
[04:30] <webtoe> fyrstorm: did your wireless work fine before you broke X?
[04:30] <THEO|WxC> it looks like that isn't a big problem (that error message), since it says "fixing"
[04:30] <orbisvicis> Kles, synaptic. Say vlc, you want to compile. first you need the dependencies
[04:31] <fyrstorm> webtoe, yes, but with NM
[04:31] <orbisvicis> kles, so apt-get build-dep vlc
[04:31] <Kles> so erm
[04:31] <orbisvicis> then is svn you might need random other libraries, so apt-cache search XX
[04:31] <Kles> is "XX" the folder that it's in?
[04:31] <orbisvicis> XX = package name
[04:31] <Web_Warlord> so basically, the documentation hasn't been of use i have the drivers downloaded and need to install them, not sure HOW to install them though
[04:31] <Kles> oh
[04:31] <Peddy> THEO|WxC, the cursor and a bakground just shows up. and it stays like that.
[04:31] <webtoe> fyrstorm: so do you want to try fixing your problem with X? i don't know why your net isn't working while in single user mode.
[04:31] <Peddy> THEO|WxC but I can log in through gnome
[04:32] <webtoe> fyrstorm: are you not able to ping anything?
[04:32] <fyrstorm> webtoe, no and when I do iwconfig I have no connection, it
[04:32] <orbisvicis> kles, elsewhere. if its a disaster, shout my name
[04:32] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> uhh
[04:32] <THEO|WxC> Peddy: I just google'd the error, and it seems I might be right: that isn't a big deal, and probably isn't the reason you are having trouble. That error is just a warning about fonts, but the system automatically fixes it.
[04:33] <THEO|WxC> if you are having a problem, it is probably something else.
[04:33] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> where can i find a tcl script for eggdrop that answer to comands(like !cmd)?
[04:33] <Kles> okay what exactly is the "package name"
[04:33] <Flynsarmy> I have a problem with my volume settings where about 80% on the slider = 0% volume
[04:33] <fyrstorm> webtoe, as far as X, I deleted a bunch of stuff and I am trying to rebuild it but I need to get connected
[04:33] <THEO|WxC> Peddy: you are trying to start X from the command line?
[04:33] <Kles> this comes in a folder called "tyrquake-0.58"
[04:33] <Kles> but that's not the package name
[04:33] <Kles> this is so confusing X_X
[04:33] <Flynsarmy> and 90% on the slider = 50% volume. 100=100
[04:33] <THEO|WxC> if so, there are usually a few commands and stuff you need to use.
[04:34] <webtoe> fyrstorm: just as a quick aside, it might be quicker to plug in an ethernet cable and do it that way
[04:34] <Peddy> THEO|WxC, yes, and the error always stays like that. I am starting it from the command line, I want to run a separate x server.
[04:34] <damo22> Flynsarmy:  check PCM and Master volumes
[04:34] <usser> Flynsarmy: and PCM is maxed out too?
[04:34] <THEO|WxC> I can't remember any off the top of my head, since I never start X from the command line (always Gnome, the GDM)
[04:34] <usser> Flynsarmy: when you double click on your mixer
[04:34] <fyrstorm> webtoe, I'll give it a try. If that works you want to help fix X? ;)
[04:34] <Kles> orbisvicis: Where would I find the "package name" exactly?
[04:35] <webtoe> fyrstorm: i can give it a go. Also, you may want to do sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[04:35] <damo22> Kles: just a rough guess usually pops up the right package
[04:35] <THEO|WxC> Peddy: ah... a 2nd X server? in that case that isn't your problem for sure, and there are definately special options and commands you have to give on the command line for that to work.
[04:35] <Kles> well, nothing has
[04:35] <kenny> HELP AGAIN: Firefox is loading REALLY slow :( what can be the problem?
[04:35] <THEO|WxC> I can't help you much there, since it's been many many years since i've had to run multiple X servers,
[04:35] <webtoe> fyrstorm: depends on the problem you're having with X. If you tell me now I can have a little look while you get your net sorted
[04:35] <Kles> the folder name doesn't work
[04:35] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> where can i find a tcl script for eggdrop that answer to comands(like !cmd)?
[04:35] <Kles> dropping the version number won't work
[04:36] <Kles> being very simple with it won't work
[04:36] <THEO|WxC> but I do remember it can be messy for beginners because there are some config files and commands you have to do special for it.
[04:36] <Flynsarmy> usser: PCM is at 100. Master is at 90. To get sound working i had to do this: sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-generic
[04:36] <usser> kenny: in terminal type killall -9 firefox, this will kill all instances of firefox after that try to launch it again
[04:36] <Kles> aaaaargh
[04:36] <damo22> killall -9 firefox-bin
[04:36] <THEO|WxC> because X servers use ports, files, and all sorts of stuff that has to be set up separately for a 2nd server.
[04:37] <orbisvicis> Kles, what are you compiling? so steps: a) if it is the repositories (synaptic), search for it. Install build dep 2) if not go to the website where you got the package, search for any dependencies there. Install them. 3) read the INSTALL README files. 4) ./configure will tell you what else you need 5) when configure works make
[04:37] <Kles> I'm trying to compile this: http://disenchant.net/files/engine/tyrquake-0.58.tar.gz
[04:37] <fyrstorm> webtoe, I broke it trying to get fglrx installed from .deb   I am trying to get OpenGL working for games.
[04:37] <Kles> I went in to the readme of that
[04:37] <kenny> usser, process not killed!
[04:37] <Kles> and it simply said "just typing make at the console should work"
[04:37] <Kles> and it hasn't.
[04:37]  * Web_Warlord kills himself
[04:37] <Peddy> THEO|WxC, I know, startx /usr/bin/gnome-wm -- :2 does not work, either (it starts gnome and gets stuck)
[04:37] <usser> Flynsarmy: hm I wouldn't know sorry, might be useful for people to know what sound chipset you use, I just solved that problem by installing an external sound card
[04:38] <damo22> kenny: killall -9 firefox-bin
[04:38] <webtoe> fyrstorm: what sort of ati card do you have?
[04:38] <usser> kenny: what damo22 says
[04:38] <mattias> hi, how do i perform an update of delux bittorrent client ?, the program tells me that there is an update but no update is performed when i say yes to make the update, it seems it is thinking for a while and than quits and the deluxe bittorrent program never starts ...
[04:38] <patrickva> kenny: sudo rm -rf /
[04:38] <usser> patrickva: wtf man
[04:38] <kenny> damo22, anyway not killed? no ther reasons?
[04:38] <webtoe> fyrstorm: some of them have flakey fglrx drivers. My bosses laptop won't use any decent resolutions because of it
[04:38] <patrickva> Oh sorry
[04:39] <patrickva> Wrong channel
[04:39] <usser> haha
[04:39] <orbisvicis> yo peoples what's ubuntus metapackage for compilers: g++ bison yacc ld etc ?
[04:39] <patrickva> :D
[04:39] <usser> wth you would type that in any channel
[04:39] <patrickva> Because it rulez
[04:39] <usser> orbisvicis: I think you looking for build-essential
[04:39] <damo22> patrickva: dont write that in here
[04:39] <fyrstorm> webtoe, and the wired ethernet didn't work. I think it's because I am in recovery console from grub.  The card is an ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 and it is flaky but has worked in the past.
[04:39] <THEO|WxC> Peddy: sorry I can't help more, but I'm sure that font thing isn't the problem.
[04:39] <orbisvicis> Kles, do you have build-essential package ?
[04:39] <Flannel> orbisvicis: build-essential
[04:39] <webtoe> fyrstprm: ohhhhh
[04:40] <orbisvicis> thanks Flannel usser
[04:40] <THEO|WxC> anyone have a fav 2d animation program?
[04:40] <sintacto> 8.04 no sound with 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)
[04:40] <webtoe> fyrstorm: no that won't work. Does it not boot into ubuntu?
[04:40] <Kles> hm
[04:40] <sintacto> pulse audio help?
[04:40] <Flannel> sintacto: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks.
[04:40] <Kles> I doubt it
[04:40] <fyrstorm> webtoe, freezes on a black screen.
[04:40] <Kles> let me try to get this
[04:40] <Kles> this OS is so confusing :S
[04:40] <sintacto> ubuntu+1 no help
[04:40] <Flannel> sintacto: Hardy is offtopic in this channel.
[04:40] <sintacto> ok sorry
[04:41] <sintacto> gonna go
[04:41] <fyrstorm> webtoe, I tried alt-f2 to get into console to no avail.
[04:41] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> where can i find a tcl script for eggdrop that answer to comands(like !cmd)?
[04:41] <kenny> FIREFOX is running very slow! help please :(
[04:41] <mattias> anyone knows how to perform an update from the comsole windows for deluxe bittorrent client ????, or can sugest me an better torrent prgroam ...
[04:41] <Scunizi> Kles, only for a while.. espicially when coming from windows.
[04:41] <webtoe> fyrstorm: in grub, highlight your ubuntu line (usually the top one, the default) press 'e' for edit, then press 'e' to edit the second line on the next page. then scroll to the end of that really long line
[04:41] <Peddy> THEO|WxC, I won't bother you if you don't want me to, but it gives this error in the terminal: Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server
[04:41] <Peddy> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:41] <usser> kenny: well try opera
[04:41] <Kles> well I'll be quite honest
[04:41] <damo22> fyrstorm: ctrl-alt-f2
[04:41] <Web_Warlord> so is there a terminal command or something to load drivers that i have downloaded?
[04:41] <usser> kenny: opera.com the installation is pretty straightforward
[04:41] <Kles> I'm only on Linux because my XP key has run out of damn validations
[04:41] <kenny> usser, can I download it through aptitude?
[04:41] <Kles> because this computer is so unstable that I've had to reinstall it repeatedly
[04:42] <usser> kenny: yes after you add opera.com repo
[04:42] <Kles> and Ubuntu has been nothing but a nonstop headache for me
[04:42] <usser> kenny: one sec
[04:42] <jrib> Kles: call microsoft then, they will give you the code you need
[04:42] <mattias> Web_Warlord:  what are you trying to do ?
[04:42] <webtoe> fyrstorm: then type single at the end of the line
[04:42] <Kles> well, I bought a new one
[04:42] <fyrstorm> damo22, tried that too
[04:42] <Kles> but I'm waiting for my new motherboard to arrive so I can build my new computer
[04:42] <webtoe> fyrstorm: then press 'b' to boot from that line
[04:42] <Kles> hopefully TigerDirect doesn't ship me more busted parts
[04:42] <Kles> let's see, broken motherboard, opened up and stuffed 8600, case with a massive dent in it
[04:42] <damo22> fyrstorm: does your keyboard have F-lock?
[04:42] <kindofabuzz> init 5 is pure cl right? or is it 3?
[04:42] <Kles> yeah, great damn service
[04:42] <Kles> X_X
[04:43] <webtoe> fyrstorm: sorry, press enter to confirm your edit. Then press 'b' to boot from that line
[04:43] <FloodBot1> Kles: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:43] <Scunizi> Kles, that's too bad.. linux is about as stable as you'll get.. Tigerdirect is pretty good. I'v built  several machines from them
[04:43] <Kles> yeah, that's the weird thing
[04:43] <Kles> they've always been very reliable with me
[04:43] <Web_Warlord> mattias i am trying to install drivers so i can have wireless internet and i can't figure out how to install them :(
[04:43] <Kles> but lately? just horrendous
[04:43] <orbisvicis> Scunizi, i avoid tigerdirect like the plague
[04:43] <Kles> as for linux being stable? ehhhh
[04:43] <Kles> from my experience
[04:43] <Kles> I've had to restart Pidgin and Firefox repeatedly because they just stop redrawing the screen
[04:44] <Scunizi> Kles, you gotta get use to it.. once there it just works.. sounds like a vid card issue.
[04:44] <Kles> and as I've said before, listening to anything is impossible
[04:44] <usser> kenny: ok do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure/add the following line at the bottom deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
[04:44] <usser>
[04:44] <cdecarlo_> Stroganoff: hey thanks a million! it's so much better now
[04:44] <fyrstorm> webtoe, ok it's trying to boot.
[04:44] <usser> kenny: after added it do sudo apt-get update
[04:44] <Kles> because if I have a program open more than a minute, the sound just starts cracking like a camp fire
[04:44] <jrib> Kles: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:44] <usser> kenny: and apt-get install opera
[04:44] <Transience> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my intel iMac, but the graphical instaler won't work. What do i do?
[04:44] <Kles> well, I did
[04:44] <kenny> usser,  thanks
[04:44] <Flannel> Transience: Try the alternate CD
[04:44] <Kles> I'm installing new packages to see if something works
[04:45] <webtoe> fyrstorm: it should dump you at a command console
[04:45] <Transience> alternate cd?
[04:45] <Scunizi> Kles, what are you trying to get working
[04:45] <fyrstorm> webtoe, blackscreen and hdd has stopped spinning  with no console.  Let's try again
[04:45] <Kles> trying to build some things
[04:45] <Kles> I'm just waiting for the stuff to install
[04:45] <cdecarlo_> Transience: ya man, the alternate is awesome
[04:45] <Kles> although in the mean time, might as well ask another question
[04:45] <Kles> what is the best general sound driver
[04:45] <jrib> Kles: try to keep your responses on a single line
[04:46] <Kles> or, at least, how can I get ALSA to not crackle
[04:46] <usser> Kles: chipsets with ac'97 and successors work the best
[04:46] <usser> Kles: bah sorry, wrong question, well ALSA is the way to go
[04:46] <Scunizi> Kles, the default work just fine.. in the next upgrade .. hardy.. they will  change it from alsa to pulseaudio
[04:46] <fyrstorm> webtoe, I want to edit the "kernel" line or "initrd"?
[04:46] <webtoe> fyrstorm: the kernel line
[04:46] <Kles> Scunizi: No, I can't listen to anything that isn't a sound effect
[04:47] <webtoe> fyrstorm: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-8-386  or somethign similar
[04:47] <Kles> music or any consistent sound is so distorted that I have to mute it
[04:47] <Kles> even with my headphones next to me on the desk, I can't stand it
[04:47] <cdecarlo_> Kles: ya, you could install pulseaudio, I had the same crackling problem on my Dell 5100
[04:47] <Kles> hmmm
[04:47] <orbisvicis> i need to purge a certain package without removing dependencies, how do i do this ?
[04:47] <cdecarlo_> Kles: there is a great how to
[04:47] <Scunizi> Kles, sounds like you have all kinds of issues with this machine.
[04:47] <usser> hehe
[04:47] <Kles> Scunizi: There's a reason I just busted in to another channel and typed "EVERYTHING IS BROKEN"
[04:48] <Scunizi> Kles, like cdecarlo said . you can install pulseaudio
[04:48] <jrib> orbisvicis: dependencies won't get removed.  Do you mean reverse dependencies?  Anyway, why do you want to?  Be more specific
[04:48] <fyrstorm> webtoe, now when I open it up the 'single' that I added last time is not there.
[04:48] <dave11> !pulseaudio
[04:48] <ubotu> PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[04:48] <webtoe> fyrstorm: yeah its not saved, you have to add it every time to the kernel line
[04:49] <webtoe> fyrstorm: it should tell the computer to boot into single user mode
[04:49] <orbisvicis> jrib, yes, without removing dependent packages. I accidently overwrite some libraries from a svn version, now i need to purge the both and find which files are left behind screwing things up
[04:49] <carlzenox> anyone know a good program like 'kismet' but simpler to use =/
[04:50] <jrib> orbisvicis: what package is this?
[04:50] <orbisvicis> carlzenox, good people dont need kismet
[04:50] <orbisvicis> jrib, libjack, jackd
[04:50] <Stroganoff> orbisvicis: just look an the contents of the packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:50] <jrib> orbisvicis: why not reinstall and then remove the extra stuff?
[04:51] <anaoum> what would be the bash equivalent of this z shellwhile (sleep 100 &!) do; done
[04:51] <webtoe> fyrstorm: i'm really sorry but I might ahve to go in a minute. Its nearly five in the morning here and still haven;t slept yet
[04:51] <anaoum> while (sleep 100 &!) do; done
[04:51] <orbisvicis> Stroganoff, unfortuantely the packages share the same names and locations
[04:51] <JonathanEllis> Help please. I've messed up the file permissions on /home/jonathan and now I cant start any applications to put it right - not even terminal.
[04:51] <jrib> anaoum: try #bash
[04:51] <anaoum> thanks
[04:51] <sintacto> flannel?
[04:51] <fyrstorm> webtoe, ok that didn't work, but, I did ctrl-alt f2 and it is stalled at " kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot..." and nothing is happening.
[04:52] <jrib> JonathanEllis: how did you mess them up?  What exactly did you type?
[04:52] <orbisvicis> jrib, i jave tried to reinstall - which should overwrite the files - but no luck
[04:52] <Stroganoff> orbisvicis: sudo apt-get reinstall
[04:52] <Stroganoff> k
[04:52] <fyrstorm> webtoe, ouch.  get some sleep. I am sure someone else can help out
[04:52]  * Web_Warlord rekills himself cause he is starving from lack of wireless
[04:53] <fyrstorm> webtoe, If all else fails I will do a fresh install.
[04:53] <sintacto> flannel is the best helper ever!
[04:53] <orbisvicis> JonathanEllis, sudo init 0 and sudo chown -r user:group ~/
[04:53] <orbisvicis> wait i think init 0
[04:53] <jrib> orbisvicis: why?
[04:53] <orbisvicis> better no init 1
[04:53] <webtoe> fyrstorm: ok dokey. SOrry, usually these things can be fixed but its not easy if you don't know how
[04:53] <webtoe> night all
[04:54] <orbisvicis> jrib, why what ?
[04:54] <fyrstorm> webtoe, night thanks for trying.
[04:54] <jrib> orbisvicis: why are you suggesting that to JonathanEllis?
[04:54] <CookieMonster> how do you recover data from a linux partition
[04:54] <Dipingo> hey all, can someone help me to figure out why Umbuntu running on VMware server has no interent access?
[04:54] <orbisvicis> jrib, quick and simple to go to single user mode and recover ownership
[04:54] <cameo357> When you download a package to install  where should it go?
[04:54] <sy001> sy001
[04:55] <jrib> orbisvicis: if he can sudo, then why would he need to go to single user mode?
[04:55] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: can you boot a live cd?
[04:55] <CookieMonster> yes
[04:55] <CookieMonster> but the live cd canot see the partition
[04:55] <Scunizi> cameo357, what did you download..from synaptic.. add/remove// or website
[04:55] <CookieMonster> or reaad it
[04:55] <orbisvicis> jrib, he cant access bash
[04:55] <cameo357> website
[04:55] <jrib> orbisvicis: so how will he run those commands
[04:55] <orbisvicis> jrib, init 1
[04:55] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: could you mount the partition>
[04:55] <cdecarlo_> ?
[04:56] <CookieMonster> ummm
[04:56] <fyrstorm> So webtoe was trying to help me work through my disaster. Anyone else want to try it?
[04:56] <CookieMonster> idunno
[04:56] <Scunizi> cameo357, well then it would depend on how your Firefox is setup. look  in FF options  for the download location
[04:56] <CookieMonster> i can see the partition in windows
[04:56] <CookieMonster> but
[04:56] <CookieMonster> only as RAW data
[04:56] <CookieMonster> it cannot access the files either
[04:56] <Shadow420> when I run grub-install /dev/sdb1 I get could not find device for /boot Not found or not a block device
[04:56] <CookieMonster> and grub wont install either
[04:56] <cameo357> ok ty
[04:56] <jrib> !enter | CookieMonster
[04:56] <ubotu> CookieMonster: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:56] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: do you know where the parttion is /dev/hdaX?
[04:56] <Scunizi> cameo357, what did you download..
[04:56] <CookieMonster> nope
[04:57]  * Dipingo loves channel bots
[04:57] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: so you're dual booting? win/ubuntu?
[04:57] <Shadow420> when I run grub-install /dev/sdb1 I get could not find device for /boot Not found or not a block device any ideas?
[04:57] <CookieMonster> yep
[04:57] <CookieMonster> i had windows read the partition
[04:57] <CookieMonster> but
[04:57] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: and Ubuntu went on second?
[04:57] <CookieMonster> its not reading anymore
[04:57] <CookieMonster> yea
[04:58] <jrib> CookieMonster: stop pressing enter...
[04:58] <CookieMonster> =\
[04:58] <orbisvicis> jrib, heh oh yeah sudo init 1 wont work
[04:58] <jrib> orbisvicis: we need to find out what he did exactly I think.  Still with us JonathanEllis?
[04:58] <fyrstorm> I need help getting logged in to console. I broke X and the system is locking up during boot. I can however get into "recovery console" from grub but I need networking to fix my disaster.
[04:59] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: is this a laptop
[04:59] <CookieMonster> so basically, my linux partiton messed up due to not shutting it off right
[04:59] <CookieMonster> then somehow grub messed up
[04:59] <CookieMonster> this is a desktop
[04:59] <orbisvicis> jrib, adding the word Single to the kernel options in grub would though : \
[05:00] <CookieMonster> and so now grub wont even load so i cannot access the linux partition
[05:00] <jrib> orbisvicis: if you read through the dpkg man page, you will learn of some force options that may allow you to do what you asked earlier, but you're playing with fire.  I believe reinstall would (should) work better though.  In the future you should install things you compile to /usr/local/
[05:00] <sergio_> does someone knows if the new gnome release is going to support multiple desktops backgrounds?
[05:00] <cameo351> My windows don't minimize, they just go away. Any one know why?
[05:00] <jrib> orbisvicis: ubuntu has a "recovery mode" option in the grub menu that gives you a root shell, that's probably the easiest way
[05:00] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, if x is broke why do you need networking to fix it? from the recovery console go to /etc/X11/ look at xorg.conf.. in the beginning  of the file there is a line to rebuild xorg which drives x
[05:01] <cdecarlo_> fyrstorm: you can switch to another console by using ctrl+alt+F#, ie. ctrl+alt+F1, ctrl+alt+F7 is X
[05:01] <jrib> cameo351: do you have the "window list" applet added to your panel?
[05:01] <cameo351> no
[05:01] <jrib> cameo351: try adding it
[05:01] <orbisvicis> jrib, right
[05:01] <CookieMonster> so is there a way to revoer the partition
[05:01] <fyrstorm> cdecarlo, I know and have tried that but it isn't completing the boot process.
[05:01] <cameo351> ok
[05:01] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: there's got to be
[05:01] <JonathanEllis> jrib: The problem started after I shared /home/jonathan so I could copy all my documents, videos etc to my laptop. When I tried to start copying files I got a message that I didnt have permission. I didnt understand why since I login as the same username and password to both machines. However, as a workaround, I added permissions for rwx for ugo, using the file manager. This meant I was able to copy all the files I needed. However, next time I boote
[05:01] <Shadow420> how do I install grub to my linux drive so I can dual-boot using WinXP Bootloader
[05:01] <CookieMonster> ok
[05:01] <CookieMonster> so
[05:01] <CookieMonster> how would i do it
[05:02] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, because i deleted some files and need to use apt to get them back
[05:02] <jrib> JonathanEllis: your message was truncated at "next time I boote"
[05:02] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, what got deleted?
[05:02] <Dipingo> CookieMonster, keep your elbow off the enter key
[05:02] <simtower> Schrödinger's LOLcat is in UR quantum box... maybe.
[05:02] <JonathanEllis> I am aware that various people have said various things to me but unfortunately I missed them all as I was writing my answer to jrib
[05:03] <CookieMonster> :( i need that data back
[05:03] <JonathanEllis> jrib: However, next time I booted up the desktop I got an error message that the permissions were incorrect on /home/jonathan and that I should change them using chmod. Unfortunately I didnt write down this error message so I am trying to remember. I think it said to change the permission to 411, and I think thats what I did (chmod 411 /home/jonathan). Now I cant do anything: I cant start any applications at all - not even terminal or file manager b
[05:03] <Shadow420> Because I want to keep WinXP bootloader in my MBR
[05:03] <jrib> JonathanEllis: are you on a different computer?
[05:03] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: I'm not a partition guru or anything but I would imagine that if you want to get at the linux partition you need to figure out which device it's at and then mount it; ie /dev/had1
[05:03] <cdecarlo_> */dev/hda1
[05:03] <JonathanEllis> Yes. I am typing all this on my laptop but the problem is on my desktop
[05:04] <CookieMonster> i believe its 3
[05:04] <CookieMonster> not too sure though
[05:04] <cdecarlo_> and it's ext3 ?
[05:04] <jrib> JonathanEllis: k, hit ctrl-alt-f1 on the desktop, does that let you login to a tty?
[05:04] <CookieMonster> this drive has 3 partitions. 1 being windows, the other is the factory recovery and the third being ubuntu
[05:04] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, you should have networking in recover console.. there are web browsers that run there and there's also wget that will dowload files.. there's also aptitude which is  like synaptic but for the console to download apps and whatnot
[05:05] <JonathanEllis> jrib: OK, done that and now I have a black screen. How long should it take before something happens?
[05:05] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, I have tried wired and wireless without success.
[05:05] <CookieMonster> was that really necessary
[05:06] <CookieMonster> how do i figure that out
[05:06] <jrib> JonathanEllis: so no place to login then?
[05:06] <JonathanEllis> jrib: Just realised, when I say its a black screen, I mean the monitor is saying there is no signal
[05:06] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, how 'bout using the live cd?
[05:06] <Shadow420> when I run grub-install /dev/sdb1 I get could not find device for /boot Not found or not a block device How Do I fix This?
[05:06] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, sure and do what with it?
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Shadow420,   you sure you want it on sdb1 and not sdb?
[05:07] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, for internet access.. get what you need there and save it on usb or hd.
[05:07] <Shadow420> Dr_Willis my device for my Linux is /dev/sdb1
[05:07] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, or is what you're saying is that you never had internet access?
[05:07] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: have you ever mounted anything before
[05:08] <Shadow420> Dr_Willis I don't want grub to boot first I want XP bootloader to start first
[05:08] <CookieMonster> through ubuntu?
[05:08] <jrib> JonathanEllis: erm ok, hit ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to the desktop.  Then restart and select "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[05:08] <dsnyders> Hi all!   Trouble is, last time my machine was switched off without shutting down properly (the power company helpfully cut the power to my house) it caused loads of file corruptions on the hard disk, so I am reluctant to force a reboot by holding down the power button
[05:08] <CookieMonster> i know how to get through my partitions. like i said, there are 3 partitions on the drive so the ubuntu partition is most likely 3
[05:08] <jrib> !who | CookieMonster
[05:08] <ubotu> CookieMonster: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:08] <Shadow420> Dr_Willis I I am running linux on a second hard drive
[05:09] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, No what I am saying is that when I log into recovery console I tried wireless and wired without success. I have both normally. Do you know if in recovery console from grub, networking is activated by default?
[05:09] <JonathanEllis> jrib: Sorry - didnt see your post as I was still typing. Got the desktop back and I am rebooting now
[05:09] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, should be
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Shadow420,  You can have grub on the mbr of the 2nd hd. that would be 'sdb' not sdb1. windows mbr can be on sda,  I have a setup like this. I use the bios menu to pick what hd to boot first.
[05:09] <jjt001> wow
[05:09] <jjt001> what a total
[05:09] <jjt001> incredible
[05:10] <Shadow420> Dr_Willis ok I will try that
[05:10] <jrib> jjt001: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[05:10] <fiXXXerMet> Can linux write to NTFS partitions yet?
[05:10] <click170> Does anybody have any insight into a problem I'm having with resolution?  It's stuck at 640x480 and I can't change it.  I just posted details here    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4614520#post4614520
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Shadow420,  grub is very flexiable.. but has a lot of little details to watchout for. :)
[05:10] <eekrano> Shadow420, http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html - that may help
[05:10] <Dr_willis> click170,  its been able to for ages.
[05:10] <jrib> fiXXXerMet: yes
[05:10] <fiXXXerMet> And if so, how reliably?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> oops wrong nick. :)
[05:10] <JonathanEllis> jrib: OK, now I have booted into recovery mode and the terminal is ready. What next, please?
[05:10] <fiXXXerMet> Any special packages or does it work oob now?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[05:10] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:10] <fiXXXerMet> Thanks
[05:10] <click170> Dr_Willis:  thought so heh, confusing.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> fiXXXerMet,  ntfs-3g works very well.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> click170,  it scrolled up as i was typing. :)
[05:11] <Smolf> Could anybody tell me if the programs that i install on ubuntu using live cd will appear on the aplications?
[05:11] <jrib> JonathanEllis: tell us the output of 'ls -ld /home/USERNAME' where USERNAME is your username
[05:11] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: ok, make a mount point, call something like ubuntuPart, eg. mkdir ubuntuPart
[05:11] <jjt001> jrib: yes
[05:11] <jrib> jjt001: then please ask the channel
[05:11] <jjt001> jrib: will ubuntu 8.04 come packaged with gnome 2.22?
[05:11] <CookieMonster> cdecarlo_: how would i do that. im currently on windows
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Smolf,  if you  install packages while booting the live cd they 'should' appear in the menus. if they have a menu item
[05:12] <jrib> jjt001: questions about ubuntu 8.04 are addressed in #ubuntu+1 (but yes)
[05:12] <Djmack> some advice plz:  any really good irc programs for ubuntu?
[05:12] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: then mount the partition there; sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 unbuntuPart
[05:12] <jjt001> jrib: thanks
[05:12] <Djmack> besides pidgin?
[05:12] <jrib> Djmack: xchat
[05:12] <CookieMonster> cdecarlo_: i cannot boot into ubuntu or grub
[05:12] <JonathanEllis> jrib: Output is drw-r--r-- 73 jonathan jonathan 4096 Mar 30 03:27 /home/jonathan
[05:12] <orbisvicis> heh
[05:12] <joot>  Djmack, I like xchat-gnome
[05:12] <cdecarlo_> CookieMonster: with the live cd
[05:12] <click170> Djmack:  You use pidgin for irc?  I found it kind of cumbersome.  I like Xchat for IRC on Ubuntu.
[05:13] <CookieMonster> cdecarlo_: ok ill be back. ill boot the live cd
[05:13] <cdecarlo_> cya
[05:13] <lothar> Godo morning. I am having a problem.  New Ubuntu user here.
[05:13] <jrib> JonathanEllis: do 'chmod 755 /home/jonathan' and 'reboot'.  If you get that error you mentioned last time again, then write it down
[05:13] <lothar> I installed VLC, the media player, and cant get a directory to open
[05:14] <Scunizi> lothar, what directory
[05:14] <JonathanEllis> jrib: Can we please talk in a private message so the screen doesnt keep scrolling with everyone elses posts
[05:14] <jrib> JonathanEllis: sure, join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:14] <lothar> Hmm. I want TV to open
[05:14] <lothar> that is the name of one of my HDs
[05:14] <Djmackzero> thanks for the advice with xchat
[05:15] <Scunizi> lothar, you have a directory called TV?
[05:15] <Djmackzero> just downloaded it
[05:15] <cameo351> What anti virus program is best for ubuntu? I used avast for ms os , but can't get it to work in ubuntu.
[05:15] <JonathanEllis> jrib: Thanks. Switching to #ubuntu-classroom.
[05:15] <lothar> Yes a HD named TV
[05:15] <lothar> I selct file then open directory and it only gives me the option within Home directory
[05:16] <lothar> I want to go above that to the Hard drives I have installed
[05:16] <Scunizi> lothar, so you have more than one HD and the second is named TV. Is that right?  if so was it in the machine when you installed ubuntu?
[05:16] <sixforty> how do I use md5 to check d/l'd files?
[05:16] <lothar> I have 3 and yes it is correct
[05:16] <lothar> And yes, I did an install yesterday
[05:16] <lothar> I havent changed the hardware at all
[05:16] <Scunizi> lothar can you see the drive when you click on places and computer?
[05:17] <DistroJockey> sixforty: md5sum /path/to/file
[05:17] <lothar> Ahh, not sure what you mean by that.  I have it on my desk top now
[05:17] <lothar> Mounted, I believe is the correct term
[05:17] <Scunizi> lothar, ok.. so you have a link on the desktop .. can you open it and see the files.
[05:17] <lothar> yes
[05:18] <Scunizi> lothar is there one particular file you want to play in vlc?
[05:18] <lothar> No, if that was the case I could just drag them in
[05:18] <sixforty> thx, 'll try it when d/l is done
[05:18] <lothar> I want to play an entire CD, whioch I have in a folder
[05:18] <DistroJockey> sixforty: *nods*
[05:18] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, in recovery mode and I have no wireless.
[05:18] <Shadow420> Dr_Willis this information is confusing me is there a direct tutorial on how to Dual-boot XP/Ubuntu using XP Bootloader?
[05:19] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, or wired for that matter
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Shadow420,  all i really did on that box was unplug the windows drive when i isntalled linux, that let the installer put the mbr on the linux hd. i then plugged the xp disk back in. and used the bios to ick what Hd to boot.
[05:19] <Scunizi> lothar.. ok.. could be that vlc doesnt recognize the "name" of the drive.. the  other way is to point vlc to /media/<your_drive_choice> .. drives are labeled by sda, sdb, sdc
[05:20] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, try ifdown then right  after ifup and see if that  brings up the nic carad
[05:20] <Scunizi> *card
[05:20] <lothar> Scun - And that did it
[05:20] <Scunizi> lothar, cool..
[05:20] <lothar> Ty for the help
[05:20] <lothar> but...
[05:20] <Shadow420> Dr_Willis well Windows Disk is my Master Drive and the linux which will house ubuntu is my Slave Drive
[05:20] <lothar> Is there an easier way?
[05:21] <lothar> Could I put a shortcut on the desktop that I could see when I clicked that?
[05:21] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, ok I have to log back in I was just about to re-install ubuntu
[05:21] <Scunizi> lothar, you could use rythmbox or amorak to manage your  music.. vlc isn't really made to do  that. although it's a great player
[05:21] <Bisclaveret> how do i perform something similar to defrag on ext3?
[05:21] <lothar> ok
[05:22] <Flannel> Bisclaveret: you don't, ext3 doesn't suffer from fragmentation
[05:22] <lothar> Question 2, I ha having trouble getting Java jre to run
[05:22] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, when doing ifdown wlan0 it says it is not configured
[05:22] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, if you reinstall you might consider creating a separate /home partition.. just in case you have to reinstall again your programs will  be safe.
[05:22] <Shadow420> Bisclaveret you don't need to defrag ext3
[05:22] <lothar> Is this the proper place to get help?
[05:22] <Bisclaveret> Flannel: i don't believe that.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Shadow420,  yes. so? You have 2 hard drives..  I unpluggeed  my windows hd. and installed linxu to the 2nd hd.   it dident matter if it was slave or master.
[05:22] <Bisclaveret> after deleting several large gobs of data and replacing them with other files, disk performance has taken a sharp downturn over the past few days.
[05:23] <Scunizi> lothar, yep
[05:23] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: its true, but if you insist, run fdisk.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Shadow420,  i just unplugged the power conector to the one hd.
[05:23] <joot> Bisclaveret, It is true
[05:23] <Bisclaveret> i'm looking for a way to free disk clusters for one
[05:23] <orbisvicis> Bisclaveret, you can copy the image to another hardrive, wipe the orginal, then copy file by file back to the original drive
[05:23] <lothar> Scun- What do I need to do to find the problem?
[05:23] <lothar> or the right questions in the first place?
[05:23] <Bisclaveret> orbisvicis: i don't have any other disks free for that
[05:23] <Flannel> Bisclaveret: It doesn't because it takes care of it on the fly, doing stuff intelligently
[05:23] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, sorry.. my networking skills in linux are pretty limited.. wireless I dont know much about
[05:23] <cookismonster> ok im back
[05:23] <Bisclaveret> and thats the old ibm xt way of defragging ;)
[05:23] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, I have already done the separate /home. I tend to break things often. Any idea on why it says it's not configured. By the way, ifup wlan0 says its ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[05:24] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, ok I'll try it with eth0
[05:24] <cameo357> is there a channel for extreme newbies?
[05:24] <Bisclaveret> Flannel: and i'm taking a large performance hit from that ;)
[05:24] <lothar> Lolz I want tha channel too
[05:24] <Shadow420> Bisclaveret it's the truth linux uses the ext3 FS in a way that fragmentation can't happen
[05:24] <cookismonster> i ran sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 unbuntuPart and it gave me mount: mount point unbuntuPart does not exist
[05:24] <n2diy> cameo357: yes, your in it!
[05:24] <Bisclaveret> today doing stuff in apt-get has been painful because it's taking over 15 seconds to start the install process, etc
[05:24] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, same thing
[05:24] <cdecarlo_> cookismonster: were you able to mount the partition?
[05:24] <cookiemonster> no =[
[05:24] <Flannel> Bisclaveret: I believe to defrag you have to convert back to ext2, defrag, then convert back to ext3.
[05:24] <Scunizi> lothar, I'm not really sure what the problem is yet.. try to describe it..
[05:25] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: were you able to mount the partition?
[05:25] <rkvirani> hey dudes
[05:25] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, sorry.. .I'm stuck at this point
[05:25] <lothar> I am trying to get (dont laugh)~ the game runescape to run.  www.runescape.com
[05:25] <cookiemonster> mount: mount point unbuntuPart does not exist
[05:25] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: what error did you get
[05:25] <Transience> does anyone know where i can find an install guide for the intel iMac?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Extreme Newbies should start at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training  - and grab the free pdf ubuntu book. :) and read it of course....
[05:25] <fyrstorm> Scunizi, thanks for trying.
[05:25] <joot> cameo357, try ubuntu forums new users it can be a bit more gentle than here
[05:25] <lothar> I got it to run under opera, but it was so laggy and slow it wasnt worth playing
[05:25] <rkvirani> I have a brand spankin new IBM thinkpad T61, how od I get powermanagment to work well on it?
[05:25] <Scunizi> fyrstorm, no problem..
[05:25] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: did you create the directory?
[05:25] <Bisclaveret> Flannel: but basically, i've removed and purged over 75% of my free-HD-space-on-install and replaced it several times
[05:25] <mcquaid> my nvidia card lacks control (brightness, contrast etc) when using xv.  I wanted totem to use opengl.  I choose glimagesync in gstreamer-properties and the test is fine
[05:25] <fyrstorm> Anyone else know how to get networking going in recovery mode from grub
[05:25] <mcquaid> but totem still cannot adjust brightness
[05:26] <mcquaid> is there a workaround for this?
[05:26] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_: no
[05:26] <rkvirani> also I have a screwed up apt database
[05:26] <cameo357> I been reading that and the apt manual
[05:26] <rkvirani> and I cant get rid of some software
[05:26] <rkvirani> what should I do about that? any docs?
[05:26] <Scunizi> lothar, looks like a flash site is that righht?
[05:26] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: you've got to make the directory
[05:26] <Bisclaveret> so i'm looking for a way of freeing disk clusters, etc to arrange the data on the disk in the most efficient way possible.
[05:26] <lothar> It is a java game
[05:26] <cookiemonster> which directory
[05:26] <rkvirani> I'm running hardy heron
[05:26] <lothar> I have flash working properly
[05:26] <Flannel> Bisclaveret: ext3 keeps stuff close together, even if not contiguous.  Fragmentation (yes it exists, obviously) isn't really a problem 98% of the time.
[05:26] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: mkdir ubuntuPart
[05:26] <Scunizi> !java | lothar
[05:26] <ubotu> lothar: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[05:26] <Bisclaveret> since i'm running a seagate medalist 3221 which is only 5400 rpm and 3gb
[05:26] <albech> how can i change the port for outgoing mails in Evolution?
[05:26] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: is this a name brand machine like a Dell, you could have hidden partitions on it?
[05:26] <lothar> I did that. No help at all
[05:26] <Bisclaveret> n2diy: no
[05:26] <Adys> how do I extract a gz (non tar) archive from the command line?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> rkvirani,  hardy is still being tested - duscissuon in #ubuntu+1
[05:27] <Flannel> Bisclaveret: Like I said, if you really want to defrag you'll have to convert to ext2, defrag, then convert back to ext3
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Adys,  gunzip command.
[05:27] <albech> Adys: unzip
[05:27] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_:ok nothing happened
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Adys,  also check out the 'unp' command.
[05:27] <lothar> I installed sun java and icedtea
[05:27] <rkvirani> Dr_willis: yea but ... cleaning up atp
[05:27] <rkvirani> any ideas?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> gzip  = gz UNZIP = .zip
[05:27] <Scunizi>  lothar.. sorry.. maybe someone else can help with it.. just ask how to get java working for a website.. you might need  to mention the site again
[05:27] <Adys> aight
[05:27] <cdecarlo_> Adys: tar -z is the flag you want for gz
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[05:27] <Transience> does anyone know where i can find an install guide for the intel core2duo iMac?
[05:28] <lothar> Can having both icedtea and sun java be causing problems?
[05:28] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: did you make the directory?
[05:28] <Flannel> Transience: Its identical to a non-mac.  Just pop in the CD and run the installer
[05:28] <Adys> thanks :)
[05:28] <Scunizi> lothar, maybe
[05:28] <cookiemonster> how do i know if i made the directory? nothing happened after i did the command
[05:28] <echelon_> how do i install Mumble?
[05:28] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: get a listing of the directory ... ls
[05:28] <n2diy> cookiemonster: cd to it.
[05:28] <lothar> is there a channel java or something that might offer more help?
[05:29] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: do you see it?
[05:29] <cookiemonster> umm im going to
[05:29] <Bisclaveret> n2diy: the machine is old and slow enough that running gnome-system-monitor takes up between 17-40%CPU randomly :p
[05:29] <mnk0> hey sup
[05:29] <Scunizi> lothar, you could try in #linux
[05:29] <cookiemonster> yes it made ti
[05:29] <lothar> OK[]
[05:29] <mnk0> if you install the 8.04 beta, how much of a process is it upgrading to the final releae
[05:29] <node357> hi people
[05:29] <mnk0> would that just be a case of updating the packages, or would u reinstall the base system
[05:30] <Flannel> mnk0: Not.  Just regular updates like the ones you get normally
[05:30] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: now try sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 ubuntuPart
[05:30] <elpargo> I'm having a non-trivial grub reinstall issue, this is the error I'm getting http://pastebin.org/26120 any suggestions?
[05:30] <lothar> 3rd and completely unrelated question.  How well would ubuntu run on an on an old 800mhz lap top?
[05:30] <Bisclaveret> Flannel: then how would one do that without risking data loss?
[05:30] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: ok, that shouldn't affect the hard drive space, maybe the drive is going south on you?
[05:30] <mnk0> Flannel: like could u just doa dist-upgrade ?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> lothar,  i would use xubuntu on that low end a machine
[05:30] <Dr_willis> lothar,  more ram would also help. :)
[05:30] <Bisclaveret> n2diy: possibly, but i'm up the creek if thats the case
[05:30] <cdecarlo_> lothar: try Xubuntu, I'm on a P3 800, it's great
[05:30] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_: mount: mount point ubuntuPart does not exist
[05:30] <elpargo> lothar: will it work yes, will it be optimal no.
[05:31] <Flannel> mnk0: yeah.  or update-manager, or synaptic, or whatnot.  Once you're on a release, you're on that release.  Upgrading to final is just updating your packages to that days
[05:31] <mnk0> ahh
[05:31] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: Sorry, GL.
[05:31] <mnk0> hmm
[05:31] <lothar> and should I nuke win2k and go with it?
[05:31] <Kles> okay
[05:31] <mnk0> thinking about installin for my home system then
[05:31] <Kles> I'm still getting errors with building
[05:31] <mnk0> anyone got it rolling?
[05:31] <Flannel> mnk0: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support/questions/etc
[05:31] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: what is the name of the directory you created?
[05:31] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_: let me pm you
[05:32] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_: ubuntuPart
[05:32] <mnk0> Flannel: k thx
[05:32] <lothar> How well with the next version work?  As a noob should I think about upgrading when it comes out?
[05:32] <elpargo> lothar: I won't recommend killing it and going ubuntu if it's your first time running *nix
[05:32] <Kles> http://pastebin.com/m76d019ce
[05:32] <lothar> elpar - TY I will keep that in mind
[05:32] <cookiemonster> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/ubuntuPart$
[05:32] <Kles> What exactly do I get there?
[05:32] <Kles> What package?
[05:33] <Scunizi> lothar, the versions get better and better.. nice  thing is you don't have to reinstall.. just upgrade
[05:33] <cameo357> Do you extract a web downloaded package before using apt, or synaptic?
[05:33] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: can you cd into the directory?
[05:33] <elpargo> lothar: on the other hand if that's your second computer go for it. u wont regret it
[05:33] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_:  yes
[05:33] <Flannel> cameo357: No.  And you don't download it either.  apt/synaptic does it for you.
[05:33] <cdecarlo_> ok, cd into ubuntuPart
[05:33] <Kles> ugh what's the "get packages" command again?
[05:33] <cameo357> How?
[05:34] <cookiemonster> i did already
[05:34] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: then type pwd
[05:34] <Adys> apt-get kles ?
[05:34] <Flannel> cameo357: Fire up synaptic, select a package for installation, hit apply.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[05:34] <lothar> So if I go with Hardy I will not be stuck with 'less stuff' in terms of functionalioty?
[05:34] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_: i get this /home/ubuntu/ubuntuPart
[05:34] <Scunizi> lothar, no
[05:34] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: ok, cd  up a directory cd ..
[05:35] <lothar> might stuff (like java and flash) work better?
[05:35] <elpargo> lothar: not at all, new versions are mostly updated packages. ubuntu has been usable since it's first release over 2 years ago.
[05:35] <elpargo> what problems u have with that?
[05:35] <Scunizi> lothar, usually integration  gets better
[05:35] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_: ok i did
[05:35] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: and then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /home/ubuntu/unbuntuPart
[05:36] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /home/ubuntu/unbuntuPart
[05:36] <cookiemonster> mount: mount point /home/ubuntu/unbuntuPart does not exist
[05:36] <elpargo> both java and flash work really good for me.
[05:36] <ijustam> java tastes good in the morning
[05:36] <comicinker> lothar: have a look at http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.22/ for some of the new features
[05:36] <nicodarious> hmmm...
[05:36] <elpargo> well flash sucks but that's the problem with the company that makes it :)
[05:36] <ijustam> flahs, not so much
[05:37] <elpargo> ijustam: yes but that's because flash9 linux sucks.
[05:37] <ijustam> i dont like flash
[05:37] <ijustam> but i could never learn it
[05:37] <ijustam> so im biased
[05:37] <ijustam> plus i cant draw to save my life
[05:37] <echelon_> anyone here use Mumble?
[05:37] <elpargo> and back went it was 7 it sucked really bad.
[05:37] <Positronic> hey, I have a question about getting flash to work on Firefox
[05:37] <Dr_willis> cookiemonster,  mkdir -p  /home/ubuntu/unbuntuPart
[05:37] <skailar> I'm having a little trouble installing programs on Ubuntu, can anyone help?
[05:38] <carlzenox> echelon_: the chat program>
[05:38] <Dr_willis> cookiemonster,  Linux is Case senesieive. You may have a typo somewhere.
[05:38] <elpargo> skailar: have you try synaptics?
[05:38] <prince_jammys> unbuntu
[05:38] <echelon_> Carbonflux, yeah, voip
[05:38] <elpargo> Positronic: ask
[05:38] <cookiemonster> i did make sure everything was cased
[05:38] <mark[oz]> skailar, your in an irc help channel.. best if you just ask your question, instea dof asking if someone can help
[05:38] <Positronic> Well, I have flash working on Firefox 2
[05:38] <mark[oz]> there are lots of people here that can help
[05:38] <skailar> No... but the program I want to install shows up in the list.
[05:38] <prince_jammys> cookiemonster: what you pasted says "unbuntu"
[05:38] <jms1989> Hi, is there a good program that will allow me to run linux applications in windows? I'm looking to run Kolourpaint in windows for my sisters.
[05:38] <Positronic> and I installed FF 3 beta 4 to ~/firefox
[05:38] <carlzenox> i can download it if u want
[05:38] <lorenzo_> hi, i need to download 32 bit libuuid to install on 64bit gutsy, how do i do that? thanks a lot
[05:38] <Adys> is there a way to make konqueror my default file manager while keeping nautilus in gnome?
[05:38] <Positronic> so how do I get flashplugin-nonfree to work in FF 3 b4?
[05:39] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: argh!
[05:39] <cookiemonster> =[
[05:39] <echelon_> carlzenox, please
[05:39] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hello. can anyone pass to me the EGGDROP TCL SCRIPT of ubotu?
[05:39] <carlzenox> echelon_: alright pm me also =/
[05:39] <skailar> I'm trying to install stumbleupon for firefox, and it shows up in add/remove programs. The documentation site says to just click it and it will add... but it won't.
[05:39] <cookiemonster> ok now i get thisubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /home/ubuntu/unbuntuPart
[05:39] <cookiemonster> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
[05:39] <cookiemonster>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[05:39] <cookiemonster>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:39] <cookiemonster>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:39] <FloodBot1> cookiemonster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <elpargo> Positronic: u have to install flash into that copy of firefox. either use their package or create symlinks.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> cookiemonster,  cut/paste the   mkdir -p /home/ubuntu/unbuntuPart   to a shell.
[05:39] <Scunizi> Positronic, that you might ask in ubuntu+1
[05:39] <Flannel> Kamus_H_Zwisch: ubotu isn't an eggdrop.  But his source is available on launchpad
[05:39] <lothar> where can i find the files to install java for athlon64processor?
[05:39] <Positronic> okay
[05:39] <orbisvicis> lorenzo_, what is the exact issue. libuuid on 64bit doesnt have a .deb, or you need it 32-bit ?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> cookiemonster,  that error imples that hda3 is not the right device
[05:39] <nikrud> Positronic this is in gutsy, right?
[05:39] <Positronic> yeah
[05:40] <cookiemonster> ok then what should i do
[05:40] <nikrud> Positronic ok, stay here, +1 is for hardy.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> cookiemonster,  'sudo fdisk -l' shows all partitions/disks on the system.. find out what one you really mean.
[05:40] <lorenzo_> orbisvicis: i need it 32 bit. i am trying to do this: http://www.pando.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=4989
[05:40] <Djmackzero> Question: i have a drivers disk for my motherboard and onboard sound. how do i use it for ubuntu?
[05:40] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Flannel: i searched at launchpad project and didn't find. all i find is it db of answers
[05:40] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :(
[05:40] <Positronic> elpargo: So download flashplugin and extract it to ~/firefox ?
[05:40] <cookiemonster> ok which one am i supposed to use
[05:41] <nikrud> Positronic   in the plugins subdirectory of ~/firefox , create the dir if it doesn't exist
[05:41] <elpargo> Positronic: in a nut shell, although you have to be sure where to put it.
[05:41] <Positronic> okay, let me try
[05:41] <Flannel> Kamus_H_Zwisch: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[05:41] <comicinker> Djmackzero: usually not. if ubuntu doesn't support your mainboard out of the box, then you can have a look at the drivers
[05:41] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Flannel: yes, i searched here :(
[05:41] <Djmackzero> well
[05:41] <Djmackzero> how bout sound drivers?
[05:42] <comicinker> the same
[05:42] <cookiemonster> how do i know which one to use?
[05:42] <elpargo> Djmackzero: u have a disk with linux drivers? are they tarballs?
[05:42] <Djmackzero> do what?
[05:42] <Flannel> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Oh.  https://code.launchpad.net/~dennis/ubuntu-bots/main specifically.  The "download URL" has an example under it on how to check out the code
[05:43] <Vanpriest>  guys, how come when i send an email even if i have the domain registered, it fall into the junk mail! someone know the reason?
[05:43] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Flannel: ok, thanks :D
[05:43] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: can you paste the output to the pastebin
[05:43] <cookiemonster> umm if i knew what the pastebin was i would
[05:43] <elpargo> Vanpriest: tons of reasons, please be more specific
[05:43] <Flannel> !paste | cookiemonster
[05:43] <ubotu> cookiemonster: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[05:43] <elpargo> http://pastebin.org
[05:43] <n2diy> ! pastebin | cookiemonster
[05:44] <nikrud> ! n2diy is looser ;)
[05:44] <lothar> grrr. this lack of a .exe rile is driving me mad
[05:44] <lothar> I got a .bin file, what do I do with it?
[05:44] <n2diy> nikrud: nope, distracted! ;)
[05:44] <snowolf> lothar: chmd +x, run it
[05:44] <elpargo> lothar: on the other hand, ones u get used to the package manager u will miss it.
[05:44] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: go to http://pastebin.org, paste the output and then copy the url and paste it in here
[05:44] <Dr_willis> lothar,  depends on what it is. :)
[05:45] <RossC> I've been doing a bit of searching, but I can't find anything that successfully plays mp4 files on Feisty. Everything I've tried (VLC, MPlayer, etc) yield nothing. Does anybody have any suggestions?
[05:45] <nikrud> lothar depends on what it is, probably find the right app in synaptic and use that instead
[05:45] <lothar> jre 6
[05:45] <cookiemonster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61551/
[05:45] <elpargo> lothar: always look first on the packagemanager.
[05:45] <elpargo> lothar: there is a deb package for that.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !java | lothar
[05:45] <ubotu> lothar: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[05:45] <lothar> I tried that, and installed java, but it isnot working
[05:45] <nikrud> lothar   sudo apt-get get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[05:45] <Dr_willis> lothar,  define 'not working'
[05:45] <lothar> willis - I know you were here the first time someone reccommended that, and it didnt ork then
[05:45] <nikrud> !doesntwork | lothar
[05:45] <ubotu> lothar: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:45] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: you want /dev/hda4
[05:46] <cookiemonster> ok
[05:46] <lothar> 'not working'=does nothing
[05:46] <elpargo> lothar: what u get when u run "java" ?
[05:46] <cookiemonster> so whats the command i should use
[05:46] <orbisvicis> lorenzo_, there *might be a better method, but here is mine: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and find the libuuid. Make a directory to compile it. dget the dsc. (this will require ubuntu packaging tools). Then run dpkg-source -x on the *.dsc file. then go to /debian/control and edit the rules file to pass gcc the -m32 option. Then dch -i to increment the version. Then run debuild -uc -us, and voila a deb. That WIll conflict with the 64 bit
[05:46] <Dr_willis> lothar,   do trouble shooting, not trying random installs/removeables/things
[05:46] <orbisvicis>  deb
[05:46] <lothar> A blank white screen
[05:46] <nikrud> ??
[05:46] <Dr_willis> lothar,  you open up a terminal and use 'java' and it crashes the system?
[05:46] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda4 ubuntuPart
[05:46] <lothar> random re-installs seemed to work great with M$ products...
[05:46] <elpargo> lothar: on the shell??
[05:46] <lothar> Oisters on the shell?
[05:46] <elpargo> lothar: because they suck.
[05:47] <lorenzo_> thanks orbisvicis! i will try that
[05:47] <lothar> I am about as fresh off the turnip truck as they come
[05:47] <elpargo> lothar: lets backtrac a little, why u need java for?
[05:47] <lothar> to run a game. www.runescape.com
[05:47] <orestes> sal
[05:47] <n2diy> sal?
[05:47] <ethan961> haha, RS
[05:47] <nikrud> lothar so, the problem is you didn't get the plugin. Run the command I gave you above
[05:48] <orestes> asl
[05:48] <orbisvicis> lorenzo_, or you can get ubuntu's source, and instead of building a .deb, instead of editing the rules file edit the makefile and add to the GCCFLAGS -m32. configure with --prefix=/opt/libuuid_32but. then install. this wont conflict but you wont get a .deb either
[05:48] <cookiemonster> new pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61552/
[05:48] <elpargo> lothar: ok then you need to install java web plugin, u can do that from inside firefox or with the command nikrud gave you, then you MUST restart firefox.
[05:48] <lothar> what was the command again?
[05:48] <nikrud> lothar   sudo apt-get get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[05:48] <orkun> hey there - simple question with sbackup: i usually do my backups on an external usb drive(because it appears senseless to me to backup onto the same physical drive) - what happens if i select daily backups but the external drive is plugged in only every say 2nd day?
[05:49] <lothar> E: Invalid operation get
[05:49] <lothar> E: Invalid operation get
[05:49] <lothar> E: Invalid operation get
[05:49] <nikrud> orkun it will get written to the main disk at the mount point
[05:49] <lothar> Isa what came up
[05:49] <nikrud> lothar   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin    sorry, typo
[05:49] <ethan961> !flood
[05:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[05:49] <ethan_> new to ubuntu
[05:49] <orkun> thanks
[05:50] <lothar> I know what it is
[05:50] <ethan_> how do i make it play a dvd
[05:50] <orbisvicis> !medibuntu
[05:50] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:50] <nikrud> orkun or, an error, if it's a subdir of that I'd expect
[05:50] <cookiemonster> so what am i to do now
[05:50] <ethan961> lothar, srry, I thought it might say something about floodbot
[05:50] <lothar> This is what came upo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61553/
[05:51] <nikrud> elpargo the gutsy firefox gets the plugin as needed? I never caught that myself in gutsy but saw it in hardy
[05:51] <lothar> I hit the paste more than once I guess
[05:51] <nikrud> lothar no I had a typo in the line I gave you for sure
[05:51] <lothar> That part was before
[05:51] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: sorry man, I'm out of ideas
[05:52] <lothar> the second line is what came up
[05:52] <ethan_> anyone wanna help me with getting ubuntu to play a dvd
[05:52] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: not sure why you can't mount it
[05:52] <cookiemonster> :(
[05:52] <Scunizi> !dvd | ethan_
[05:52] <ubotu> ethan_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:52] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: is the problem that you can't boot into ubuntu?
[05:52] <cookiemonster> ok maybe you can help me set up grub'
[05:52] <cookiemonster> yes
[05:52] <orkun> ethan, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in your console
[05:52] <lothar> nik-want me to try again?
[05:52] <elpargo> nikrub it's a firefox thing. can't recall offhand if it will, but it still does it outside apt.
[05:52] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: have you tried reinstalling grub?
[05:52] <cookiemonster> i cannot boot into it and i cannot access the files on the partition
[05:52] <cookiemonster> i need help reinstalling grub
[05:52] <nikrud> lothar I'm gonna put up a couple links that will help you get a grip on how software is organized in ubuntu, it'll give you some framework to start putting things into
[05:53] <nikrud> !components | lothar (especially the components one)
[05:53] <ubotu> lothar (especially the components one): The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[05:53] <elpargo> cookiemonster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:53] <nikrud> !synaptic | lothar
[05:53] <ubotu> lothar: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[05:54] <squee> Does anyone know the video driver that should be used with the cloudbook?
[05:54] <Scunizi> fog
[05:54] <elpargo> lothar: and you need to forget about the broken model of downloading a file and double clicking it.
[05:54] <nikrud> lothar   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin    <-- this one
[05:55] <elpargo> squee: what's cloudbook?
[05:55] <Scunizi> squee, you might be able to do .. lspci in a terminal to see what kind of card it is.
[05:55] <cookiemonster> ok i dont understand this
[05:55] <Scunizi> elpargo, it's a mac
[05:55] <Scunizi> skinny thin
[05:55] <cookiemonster> what is my boot partition
[05:55] <elpargo> ohhh the newest laptop :)
[05:55] <paper_app> #join ubuntu-es
[05:56] <xeer> hello.. I keep getting "ŸŸ" whenever i try to paste
[05:56] <lothar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61557/
[05:56] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: the boot partition is the partition on the disk where you MBR lives
[05:56] <lothar> Is what came up
[05:56] <cookiemonster> so mine would be hd1,4
[05:56] <nikrud> lothar you running 64bit?
[05:56] <squee> elpargo, Scunizi : Unichrome Cx700M2
[05:56] <lothar> yes
[05:56] <elpargo> cookiemonster: the find command will tell you.
[05:56] <lothar> I thought I mentioned that earlier
[05:57] <lothar> Wait. I have a 64 bit processor, I am running 32 bit ubuntu
[05:57] <nikrud> lothar ah, sun never made a 64bit browser java plugin (if you did, I came in after that)
[05:57] <Scunizi> squee, ouch.. hang on.
[05:57] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: it looks like yours is /dev/hda2
[05:57] <snerfu> hmm the cloudbook has a video chipset I haven't heard of: Via Unichrome Pro IGP Graphics
[05:57] <cookiemonster> Error 15: File not found
[05:57] <nikrud> !gutsysources | lothar (then you need to enable some components)
[05:57] <ubotu> lothar (then you need to enable some components): gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[05:57] <Bisclaveret> ah goody.
[05:57] <Bisclaveret> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61556/
[05:57] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo_: Error 15: File not found
[05:57] <snerfu> Maybe use the vesa driver.
[05:57] <RossC> In Gusty, how does one play MP4 files? All of my search efforts have been in vain (I've tried with VLC, MPlayer, XMMS [which gives sound, but no video] and a few other players).
[05:57] <kindofabuzz> world of padman is so fun =)
[05:58] <xeer> hello.. I keep getting "ŸŸ" whenever i try to paste
[05:58] <nikrud> lothar do those steps, and try the apt-get command again. You can get back to it when you are ready with the up arrow
[05:58] <Scunizi> squee, in a terminal ... sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[05:58] <orbisvicis> xeer, just starting you off, look at your keyboard layout. then look at xev and and compare to xmodmap -pke to make sure that your the correct keycods on the keys are used
[05:58] <lothar> Already had them done
[05:58] <snerfu> RossC: what is the video encoded in? x264?
[05:58] <AlephTau> why doesnt ubuntu produce virtualbox images?
[05:58] <AlephTau> it's way better tham vmware
[05:59] <Positronic> Is there a way to sync a Zune in ubuntu without using WINE?
[05:59] <RossC> snerfu: h264.
[05:59] <Scunizi> squee, after that you'll need to reset xorg.conf..
[05:59] <paper_app> Help me!!!! i have a intel G33... i need video drivers for ubuntu 7.10
[05:59] <nikrud> lothar if you have mulitverse enabled, and you get that message you are not running the 32bit. If you're sure of both, put a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org . That's the master listing of all software sources
[05:59] <squee> Scunizi, Thanks
[05:59] <cookiemonster> cdecarlo: i dont unnderstand the reinstalling of grub
[05:59] <Scunizi> squee, np
[05:59] <lothar> wait
[05:59] <snerfu> RossC: I can play those in vlc, might try getting vlc directly from their website, videolan.org
[05:59] <lothar> where can I tell which I am running?
[06:00] <Lapinux> anyone here have problems with embeded flash videos and firefox?  the video screen always go's white on me and doesnt play, right after it starts to load
[06:00] <nikrud> lothar and  uname -m will tell you the machine type , i686 or x64
[06:00] <lothar> Ihad 2 CDs and just re-installed last night
[06:00] <lothar> type that in a terminal?
[06:00] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: have you read the link that elpargo sent you?
[06:00] <Lapinux> i have to keep trying in order to get them to play
[06:00] <cookiemonster> yes
[06:00] <nikrud> lothar yes,   uname -m   (uname by itself will tell you some other stuff as well)
[06:00] <lothar> x86 64
[06:00] <lothar> Doh!
[06:00] <RossC> snerfu: Is the version in the repository thing not up to day? (kind of new to Linux, so not entirely sure how often stuff like that updates)
[06:00] <cookiemonster> i dont understand it
[06:00] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: have you followed the instructions?
[06:00] <nikrud> lothar 64bit, no java plugin :)
[06:00] <cookiemonster> yes
[06:01] <cookiemonster> it gives me errors
[06:01] <lothar> is there an easy way to get rid of 64?
[06:01] <nikrud> lothar reinstall to get 32bit.
[06:01] <elpargo> cookiemonster: which ones, my crystal ball is fuggy today
[06:01] <lothar> Should I download Ubuntu again and burn another CD?
[06:01] <cdecarlo_> lol
[06:01] <nikrud> lothar that is, that's the only way to switch. Check your other disk, it might be 32bit. But I'd strongly recommend going 32bit
[06:01] <snerfu> RossC: one sec im looking something up
[06:01] <Positronic> P4's are i686, are they? :\
[06:01] <lothar> Ya I tried 64 and dont like it
[06:02] <cookiemonster>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61558/
[06:02] <Positronic> *aren't
[06:02] <nikrud> !who | lothar
[06:02] <ubotu> lothar: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:02] <elpargo> lothar: you can wrap some 32bit packages to work on 64b but it's not trivial.
[06:02]  * nikrud thinks that's one way, but not for beginners ;)
[06:02] <Brack10> so,thinking about upgrading from windows to ubuntu, is it worth waiting for 8.04 or should I go with gutsy and upgrade
[06:03] <lothar> elpar - Ok 64 bit windows was hellish\, and I had even less fun with 64 bit ubuntu
[06:03] <lothar> I will go with 32 bit
[06:03] <nikrud> Brack10 install now :)
[06:03] <cookiemonster> have you guys checkoued the pastebin?
[06:03] <Brack10> I've heard the upgrade path can be rocky, is that just idiot speak?
[06:03] <n2diy> Brack10: dive in and get your feet wet.
[06:03] <lothar> I installed yesterday
[06:03] <elpargo> Brack10: the sooner you see the light the better, linux in general is not like windows, new versions are normally small things, bug fixes and new stuff.
[06:03] <orbisvicis> what is lothar 's problem ? ndiswrapper for flash is simple ?
[06:03] <cdecarlo_> cookiemonster: I've never been through this before and I think my expertise is becoming exhausted, I'm sorry man but you're gonna have to find someone else to help
[06:04] <elpargo> cookiemonster: are u using a live cd?
[06:04] <nikrud> Brack10 if you follow the upgrade instructions, it's not difficult. Most people have problems when they use envy or automatix (if you don't know what they are, you're lucky)
[06:04] <snerfu> RossC: I might recommend reading this link on restricted formats, i think it might work for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:04] <DistroJockey> Positronic: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz   and   Linux myubuntu 2.6.24-12-generic #1 SMP Wed Mar 12 23:01:54 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:04] <lothar> Do I need to download it agian and burn another CD?  Or are the 32 and 64 bit versions on the same CD?
[06:04] <n2diy> Brack10: Why worry about upgrading, I'm still using Dapper 6.06?
[06:04] <Positronic> hm
[06:04] <nikrud> lothar different cds
[06:04] <Positronic> didn't realize
[06:04] <lothar> Got it
[06:04] <elpargo> lothar: 2 disks
[06:04] <cookiemonster> elpargo: yes
[06:04] <orbisvicis> though the only reason to run 64bit is >4Gb
[06:04] <lothar> I will grab another one, TY for the help Nic
[06:05] <nikrud> lothar    releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 , get the desktop
[06:05] <Djmackzero> can some one direct me to some really good Python tutorials? ive been reading the ones on the site.. and im starting to get a little lost.
[06:05] <nikrud> lothar you are welcome
[06:05] <dabbill> When useing k9copy to copy a DVD and compress it. It runs through the compressing part, then just stops, never asks for a blank disk or any thing. I set the program to auto burn, and set my Output device my DVD rom. Any thing i am missing?
[06:05] <elpargo> cookiemonster: and u lost grub because you reinstalled windows?
[06:05] <lothar> Nik - SHold I just get the beta of Heron?
[06:05] <cookiemonster> no i lost grub because it got corrupted
[06:05] <cookiemonster> i improperly shutted it down
[06:05] <elpargo> Djmackzero: are you an experience programmer? also #python is the best way for this.
[06:05] <nikrud> lothar no. no. no. It breaks something nearly every day
[06:05] <RossC> snerfu: I had found that during my searches. It was already up-to-date when I tried it, though, so no change from it.
[06:06] <cdecarlo_> Djmackzero: a great way to learn python is by taking the python challenge
[06:06] <elpargo> cookiemonster: how?
[06:06] <lothar> Nic - Gotcha
[06:06] <Djmackzero> i studied java a little
[06:06] <cdecarlo_> google it
[06:06] <Djmackzero> but ill be sure to hit up #python
[06:06] <orbisvicis> cdecarlo, python challenge ?
[06:06] <lothar> Nic - should I even think about downgrading?
[06:06] <SubOne> I'm on a really fast custom gaming laptop with an ati radeon card, but the video is really slow. I've tried installing the proprietary drivers but that was only slower. Can anyone assist me?
[06:06] <Oasys> hey
[06:06] <nikrud> lothar it's lovely if you know how to fix the stuff, and will be wonderful when done
[06:06] <cookiemonster> i improperly shut it down while i was in grub and next time i booted grub would not boot and gave me error
[06:06] <cdecarlo_> orbisvicis: oh ya, it's great
[06:06] <Brack10> n2diy: i was just thinking it might have tons of new stuff that's worth waiting for
[06:06] <orbisvicis> cdecarlo, what is it ?
[06:07] <phantom__> hmm.. i could have sworn that I turned off my 'away' messages...
[06:07] <nikrud> lothar downgrading? Nah, stick with 7.10
[06:07] <elpargo> Brack10: yes but why wait :)
[06:07] <cdecarlo_> orbisvicis: its an online riddle game for python programmers
[06:07] <elpargo> Djmackzero: ok then I'll recommend docs.python.org/tut/ then www.diveintopython.org/
[06:07] <Djmackzero> im getting errors joining #python "* #python :You need to be identified to join that channel"
[06:07] <n2diy> Brack10: Dunno, most new stuff is behind the scene kernel stuff.
[06:07] <orbisvicis> cdecarlo, ah
[06:07] <nikrud> Brack10 everything you learn in gutsy will transfer over fine
[06:07] <orbisvicis> i like
[06:07] <phantom__> i take it I no longer have talk privilages?
[06:07] <lothar> Nic: I have 3 versions I can DL, Do I choose the 64biit AMB version or the standard version to get the 32 bit version I want?
[06:07] <elpargo> Djmackzero: the second link is a little advanced if u don't know how to program.
[06:08] <elpargo> lothar: std = 32
[06:08] <lothar> Nic -I havent a clue waht Sun Ultra is so that one is out
[06:08] <Bisclaveret> is booting from a livecd the only way to run fsck?
[06:08] <nikrud> lothar  ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[06:08] <Djmackzero> the thing is
[06:08] <cdecarlo_> orbisvicis: it's addictive, I got to level 22 before i got to busy with life to spend hours banging my head against the screen
[06:08] <bikeboy> Any way to modify keyboard shortcuts in gnome - other than the Sys > Prefs > Keyboard shortcuts dialog?
[06:08] <snerfu> RossC: does the video even try to play? do you just get like a black window? or do you just see the sound like no video is even trying to come up?
[06:08] <lothar> OK can someone speed up the download now?
[06:08] <bikeboy> can't find anything in gconf so far
[06:08] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: no, try susdo fsck from a terminal.
[06:08] <elpargo> cookiemonster: sudo fdisk -l what that shows?
[06:09] <elpargo> cdecarlo link please :)
[06:09] <lothar> (hehe) I was joking
[06:09] <Bisclaveret> n2diy: it screams at me not to run it on a mounted filesystem
[06:09] <Scunizi> bikeboy, you got a special keyboard with extra keys.. ? try keytouch in synaptic
[06:09] <Djmackzero> docs.python.org/tut/  is honestly getting boring to a point of no interest... im looking for something with, not more interactive, but better interactive content
[06:09] <RossC> snerfu: I get nothing in VLC. It pops up for a split second, then closes. The only results I've gotten are from XMMS after some tinkering, but only sound from it (no video).
[06:09] <cdecarlo_> http://www.pythonchallenge.com/
[06:09] <Bisclaveret> unless i use -n
[06:09] <nikrud> lothar welcome to ubuntu. I'm off for a bit, enjoy and I'll see you around
[06:09] <lothar> thaks
[06:09] <lothar> thanks
[06:09] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: yes, you need to umount it.
[06:10] <bikeboy> Scunizi, actually trying to set a combination of 'Super_L' key and another key
[06:10] <cookiemonster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61559/
[06:10] <owen1> anyone install wubi on vista?
[06:10] <elpargo> Djmackzero: interactive? like q&a ?
[06:10] <Bisclaveret> n2diy: then i won't be able to run fsck
[06:10] <bikeboy> Scunizi, doesn't let you combine like you can with shift etc
[06:10] <cdecarlo_> elpargo: http://www.pythonchallenge.com/
[06:10] <nikrud> lothar before I go, did you get those links for reading I gave you? they're not long, and really worth reading. Just in case, I'm sending them to you again in a pm
[06:10] <Bisclaveret> i need to check /dev/sda1 which is root :p
[06:10] <Scunizi> bikeboy, never tried it myself..
[06:10] <nikrud> !components > lothar
[06:10]  * elpargo looks around .... ues this is ubuntu channel, why people are talking about the lastest failure in OSs?
[06:10] <nikrud> !synaptic > lothar
[06:10] <tgelter> anyone know why there's such a lag after login (gnome) while the applets load?
[06:10] <bikeboy> Scunizi, will look into the program though, thanks
[06:10] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: fsck runs everyday, why do you need to run it now?
[06:11] <cdecarlo_> oh my farts stink
[06:11] <Bisclaveret> n2diy: because obviosuly rebooting the computer, etc isn't making fsck do it's job, re http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61556/
[06:11] <kindofabuzz> tgelter: noneed more ram?
[06:11] <kindofabuzz> need*
[06:11] <elpargo> tgelter: maybe you got a lot of them, applets are slow in loading.
[06:11] <Bisclaveret> i want fsck to check the entirety of my hd
[06:11] <tgelter> kindofabuzz: I have 4 GB...I don't think I need more =)
[06:11] <Bisclaveret> not whatever little it does on boot
[06:11] <kindofabuzz> ok, less applests?
[06:11] <tgelter> elpargo: there are only too...
[06:11] <tgelter> *two
[06:11] <elpargo> tgelter: define "a lot of time"
[06:12] <orbisvicis> Bisclaveret, youll need a boot cd; you cant fsck mounted volumes. and if you have lvm ... youll need lvm support
[06:12] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: ok, let me have a look, in the mean time triy "sudo updatedb"
[06:12] <ridge-meister> anyone here know of an XMAME port that will run on the PS2?  I have roms, but am having trouble getting XMAME (on Ubuntu) to recognize my Axis Pad game controller, so I thought that if XMAME were running on the PS2 it would recognize the PS2 controller AND be more fun to play on the tv. :)
[06:12] <Bisclaveret> orbisvicis: theres no option like windows nt's chkdsk where it runs on boot before mounting the FS?
[06:13] <tgelter> elpargo: I log in from gdm. The desktop is displayed + the two gnome-panels, then about 5-10 seconds pass while the applets load, and until they load, I'm unable to do anything
[06:13] <Scunizi> Bisclaveret, it's not needed
[06:13] <orbisvicis> Bisclaveret, well thats what fsck on boot does
[06:13] <elpargo> Bisclaveret: depends on ur filesystem, most of those checks are not needed or done automatically.
[06:13] <Bisclaveret> Scunizi: obviously it is.
[06:13] <Bisclaveret> it runs on boot, but i've gotten those errors
[06:13] <RossC> snerfu: I'm putting it aside for now. I'll try doing some more searching tomorrow. Thank you for your time!
[06:13] <dabbill> When useing k9copy to copy a DVD and compress it. It runs through the compressing part, then just stops, never asks for a blank disk or any thing. I set the program to auto burn, and set my Output device my DVD rom. Any thing i am missing?
[06:13] <Bisclaveret> unless those errors cropped up in the past 24hrs
[06:13] <elpargo> tgelter: yea that's a lot, have you try deleting them to be sure it's the applets?
[06:14] <cookiemonster> what am i to do now
[06:14] <cookiemonster> how do i recover the data from the partition
[06:14] <Scunizi> dabbill, i used it for the first time yesturday but I had it make an iso then I used k3b to burn and it worked like a champ
[06:14] <tgelter> elpargo: it happens on my laptop, on my desktop, and on my wife's laptop...I thought it was normal...
[06:14] <elpargo> cookiemonster: I told you to run sudo fdisk -l and show that.
[06:14] <cookiemonster> i did
[06:14] <orbisvicis> dabbill, you can try from terminal k9copy, though thatll waste more time
[06:14] <cookiemonster> i posted the pastebin
[06:15] <elpargo> tgelter: the lag is normal it's loading a lot of things, but the times for you seem too much.
[06:15] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: It appears fsck is trying to fix your corrupted files, and your telling it not to.
[06:15] <Bisclaveret> whenever i watch the bootup on the recovery mode FSCK takes all of 2-3 seconds then it moves to the next line so it's obviously not doing anything
[06:15] <cookiemonster> elpargo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61559/
[06:15] <elpargo> cookiemonster: I must have miss that, please give it to me again
[06:15] <Bisclaveret> n2diy: because i used -n to avoid screwing up the mounted filesystem
[06:15] <tgelter> elpargo: interesting. is there no way to have them start preloading while gdm is loaded waiting for input?
[06:16] <Bisclaveret> to determine if i actually needed to run fsck
[06:16] <qcjn> hi, i've uninstall proftpd, but there's still the /var/log/proftpd/....i can remove this ?
[06:16] <Bisclaveret> what i did was the equivalent of running chkdsk c: without the /f flag
[06:16] <Bisclaveret> which puts it in readonly
[06:16] <n2diy> Bisclaveret: GL
[06:16] <elpargo> tgelter: not in the way it's handle, whichs apps by the way?
[06:17] <elpargo> tgelter: normally python applets are very slow at loading, because of the interface
[06:17] <tgelter> elpargo: gnome-system-monitor, frequency scaling, and the normal "notifications"
[06:17] <elpargo> tgelter: oh yes the system monitor is laggy, I don't use it anymore because of that.
[06:18] <dabbill> Scunizi, orbisvicis thanks, i guess i will make an ISO then just burn it i guess.
[06:18] <tgelter> elpargo: I see. any other recommendations for replacements/
[06:18] <elpargo> cookiemonster: then your root line should be root (hd0,2)
[06:18] <DistroJockey> qcjn: It's just a log, removing it would be fine IMO
[06:18] <cookiemonster> elpargo: how am i supposed to use that
[06:18] <qcjn> thanks
[06:18] <DistroJockey> np
[06:19] <elpargo> tgelter: depends on your geekiness lvl, I don't really use any at the moment, but http://conky.sourceforge.net/ it's really neat.
[06:19] <elpargo> cookiemonster: keep reading the link I gave you.
[06:20] <tgelter> elpargo: yeah, I've used conky before, I just always forget to install it...plus I like the desktop real estate it takes up. I was hoping for some other gnome-panel applet
[06:21] <cookiemonster> elpargo: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `hd0,2'
[06:22] <elpargo> tgelter: well there is always  gkrellm , but that's isn't gnome's specific.
[06:22] <KemrinH> Hey everyone
[06:22] <tgelter> elpargo: true true. thanks for the recommends & help
[06:22] <elpargo> cookiemonster: this may sound hard but, please use your common sense, it's a syntax error, you are very close to it.
[06:23] <KemrinH> My CD/DVD reader writer in my Dell XPS 1210 doesn't read or write CD's, only DVD's how do I go about fixing this?
[06:23] <cookiemonster> elpargo: how am i supposed to use the syntax. I am a linux newbie
[06:23] <elpargo> root (hd0,2) there is a space.
[06:23] <elpargo> cookiemonster: learning. that's the only way u will get out of newbie land
[06:23] <fyrstorm> Is the ATI accelerated driver that is provided in the restricted driver manager equivalent to fglrx?
[06:23] <cookiemonster> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ root (hd0,2)
[06:23] <cookiemonster> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `hd0,2'
[06:24] <elpargo> cookiemonster: INSIDE the grub console.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> cookiemonster,  thats NOT a bash command. thats a 'grub' command.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> grub has its own shell interface.
[06:24] <cookiemonster> ok
[06:25] <elpargo> fyrstorm: the restricted drivers ati driver is the official driver from ati.
[06:25] <cookiemonster> elpargo: nothing happens now
[06:26] <fyrstorm> elpargo, ok thank you, Do you know how to get OpenGL working right on it?