[08:35] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone here stream audio? I am looking for an audacious plugin for shoutcast but have had no luck
[08:35] <wiseman1> I'm not that drunk.  Bottle of wine and a 6.7% bottle fo beer
[08:35] <wiseman1> in....an hour and a hal
[08:35] <wiseman1> f
[08:35] <gr1ff1n> I can t find any channel for java ?? anyone has an idea ?? please
[08:35] <wiseman1> computer skills are the last thing to go when I'm drunk though
[08:35] <ikonia> wiseman1: it's not big or clever to brag, if your using "being drunk" as a way of making excuses I sugges tyou come back later
[08:36] <ziroday> gr1ff1n: the ##java channel. on this network
[08:36] <fat_rat> !offtopic | wiseman1
[08:36] <ikonia> gr1ff1n: you have been explained 2 times where the java channel is and where to ask in future
[08:36] <shams1> how can i compress a folder with ZIP format?
[08:36] <ikonia> shams1: zip
[08:36] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I am guessing no one streams then?
[08:36] <wiseman1> I just typed into the wrong window is all
[08:37] <shams1> ikonia: with zip package?
[08:37] <ikonia> shams1: the command is "zip" I think it should already be installed
[08:37] <wiseman1> I put in ps  ax | grep gnope-panel and I got 9015 pts/0 R+  0:00 grep gnome-panel as a response
[08:37] <wiseman1> what the hell does that mean
[08:37] <ziroday> wiseman1: okay try ps ax | grep xfce4-panel
[08:38] <wiseman1> ziroday: I got "9029 pts/0 s+   0:00 grep xfce4-panel" as a response.  what does that mean?
[08:39] <ziroday> wiseman1: it means its not running. Now type in xfce4-panel
[08:39] <wiseman1> OH HAI
[08:39] <wiseman1> that totally worked
[08:39] <wiseman1> sweet
[08:39] <wiseman1> now how do I make sure that opens by default now
[08:39] <wobblywu> I seemed to have stumbled into something quite odd. there's a wireless network I'm trying to connect to which does show up in the network list in 8.04, but not in 8.10 (although other networks show up in both)
[08:40] <ziroday> wiseman1: it should work by default. Did you install xfce from xubuntu?
[08:40] <ardchoille> ziroday: Shouldn't this be in #xubuntu?
[08:40] <wiseman1> yes
[08:40] <tiyowan> wobblywu: Which wireless card are you using?
[08:40] <ziroday> wiseman1: well I am not that familar with xfce myself sorry, the folks in #xubuntu will be able to help
[08:40] <wiseman1> it used to work, ziroday, but then it stopped after playing with menu options earlier
[08:40] <EMPulse> hey guys
[08:41] <wobblywu> tiyowan, that's a good question, one second let me check
[08:41] <EMPulse> Does anyone know how to make it so that the pigdin tray icon does not blink when you get new messages
[08:41] <ziroday> EMPulse: there is a setting for that. One sec while I try to find it
[08:41] <wobblywu> EMPulse, right click the icon, disable "blink on new message"
[08:41] <EMPulse> ziroday, thanks man, it annoys the hell out of me
[08:42] <wiseman1> let me log out and log back in and make sure it still works
[08:42] <wiseman1> brb
[08:42] <EMPulse> wobblywu, may you get laid many times tonight, thank you
[08:42] <wobblywu> EMPulse, I hope that's not an invitation :P
[08:42] <ikonia> EMPulse: thats not appropriate,
[08:42] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[08:42] <EMPulse> wobblywu, nah, lol not an invitation, anyway thanks for the help
[08:42] <ikonia> EMPulse: "thank you" how you show thanks
[08:43] <wiseman> Hey thanks, that seemed to do the trick, ziroday
[08:43] <wobblywu> tiyowan, it's an intel
[08:43] <wiseman> things are working fine now
[08:44] <wiseman> gives me an excuse now to keep drinking
[08:44] <wiseman> but I'm all out of booze :(
[08:44] <tiyowan> @wobblywu, you might want to check which drivers are being used.
[08:45] <tiyowan> @wobblywu, open up shell, and type iwlconfig.
[08:45] <Drakma> is there an itunes replacement for ubuntu?
[08:45] <ziroday> Drakma: take a look at banshee and rhythmbox
[08:45] <Drakma> ty
[08:46] <U-b-u-n-t-u> windows has ubuntu beat when it comes to streaming audio through shoutcast and icecast and thats sad =/
[08:46] <wiseman> NOTHING HAS UBUNTU BEAT AT ANYTHING LOL
[08:46] <Maveas> Just installed LAMP with "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" and it worked well, but I haven't got a clue where the install put all the files.. :S
[08:46] <ikonia> wiseman: please don't talk nonsense
[08:46] <wiseman> I kee
[08:46] <wiseman> d
[08:46] <tiyowan> I'm actually glad to be rid of Windows. Hopefully by today. :-)
[08:46] <Maveas> Can someone tell me where the httpd directory is?
[08:46] <aftertaf> just means you're doing it wrong :)
[08:46] <ikonia> U-b-u-n-t-u: use whatever operating system meets your needs better
[08:46] <wiseman> plus I said earlier that perhaps I may have had something to drink earlier
[08:47] <ikonia> wiseman: I sugges you leave then
[08:47] <aftertaf> tiyowan: good luck :)
[08:47] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks for telling me the obvious ikonia
[08:47] <wiseman> Oh come on
[08:47] <ziroday> Maveas: look in /etc/apache2
[08:47] <ikonia> wiseman: come back when not drinking
[08:47] <wiseman> it's past midnight on the internet, most of those online have had one or two
[08:47] <Maveas> ziroday: thanks :)
[08:47] <dangit> how safe is "apt-get autoremove" function?
[08:47] <wobblywu> tiyowan, doesn't seem to return anything
[08:47] <dangit> (cause it is suggesting openssh-blacklist is no longer necessary among other programs)
[08:48] <ikonia> wiseman: I asked you to control your self, and you keep uisng drink as an excuse, please return later when sober
[08:48] <wiseman> ikonia: you are totally harshing my buzz
[08:48] <aftertaf> dangit: safe... wont remove anything still used
[08:48] <ziroday> dangit: it only removes packages that have been orphaned by a package you removed. It is reasonably safe
[08:48] <Flannel> aftertaf, dangit: it chooses what to try and remove based on what depends on it
[08:48] <paul68> is there a linux distro that supports creative labs xfi card out of the box?
[08:48] <ardchoille> dangit: It's designed to remove packages that are no longer being used by the system, has never caused problems here
[08:49] <wobblywu> tiyowan, what could explain it seeing networks but not the one I need, though?
[08:49] <wiseman> ikonia: wtf, are you some kind of teatotaller?
[08:49] <dangit> aftertaf, Flannel ziroday so stuff like "openssh-blacklist", "vlc-plugin-pulse"... are no longer necessary?
[08:49] <dangit> odd...
[08:49] <wobblywu> tiyowan, the card clearly is working, just not seeing this specific network
[08:49] <paul68> !attitude |wiseman
[08:49] <paul68> !language |wiseman
[08:50] <Flannel> dangit: I never said necessary, I said depends.
[08:50] <tiyowan> @wobblywu: I had a similar problem with an intel wireless card.
[08:50] <pu154r> ikonia: php cgi/fcgi returns in segmentation fault
[08:50] <Akiva> Any PHP developers here?
[08:50] <ikonia> Akiva: plenty in ##php
[08:50] <ikonia> pu154r: I'd get a php guy to veriyfy the function your using correctly, and then log a bug
[08:51] <Akiva> ikonia: This, I know. I was just looking for any opinions on...
[08:51] <tiyowan> @wobblywu: All I know is that you need to be running the latest drivers ipwraw drivers to provide better support for the intel chipset wireless card.
[08:51] <Akiva> ikonia: Ah nevermind
[08:51] <tiyowan> @wobblywu: I may have typo'ed. Try iwconfig.
[08:52] <pu154r> ikonia: is not script based error is genreal fault if you use php cgi/fcgi interface in current php version it resault in segmentaion fault (kernel segmentation error in syslog)
[08:52] <paul68> ikonia is there to your knowledge a linux distro that support creative labs xfi cards easely without much tweaking the kernel?
[08:52] <reqqit> hey people, I have a protected PDF that I protected - I know the password - I am using PDFEdit, and I want to unpassword the PDF - is there a way of doing that in linux? I've googled, but all results are garbage, and I've seen GauPDF
[08:52] <ikonia> pu154r: I'm using it fine, so hence why I'm suggesting check how your using it
[08:52] <ikonia> pu154r: no
[08:52] <ikonia> pu154r: the driver is closed source
[08:52] <wobblywu> tiyowan, where would I find this driver?
[08:53] <tiyowan> @wobblywu: I found on it on the backtrack forums...I'm sorry I can't be of more help, but I'm still a newbie at ubuntu.
[08:54] <reqqit> On linux, can you remove a (known) password for a protected / encrypted pdf?
[08:54] <wobblywu> tiyowan, :/
[08:54] <pu154r> ikonia:  apache2 fcgi module or lighttpd or nanoweb fcgi result in startup in segmentation faul
[08:54] <ikonia> pu154r: for you - not me
[08:54] <tiyowan> @wobblywu: Anyhow. Does iwconfig return anything?
[08:54] <pu154r> ikonia: BUT the joke is if i echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" with pipe to php5-cgi it returns phpinfo page
[08:55] <ikonia> pu154r: thats not a joke, thats expected behaviour
[08:55] <pu154r> ikonia: is after upgrading from 8.04.1
[08:55] <admin__> ดีครับ
[08:55] <pu154r> ikonia: did you use ubuntu 8.10 or ubuntu 8.10 server?
[08:55] <admin__> ทดสอบอ่ะๆๆ
[08:55] <admin__> ดี
[08:56] <ikonia> pu154r: 8.10, but there is no difference between desktop and serverf package
[08:56] <aftertaf> unicode ! !
[08:56] <ikonia> !ru > admin__
[08:56] <admin__> ...
[08:56] <admin__> hI..
[08:56] <pu154r> ikonia: maybe we have different packages donÄt know
[08:56] <ikonia> pu154r: I doubt that
[08:56] <nomoa> anyone has problems with thunderbird and XML errors inside account preferences?
[08:57] <admin__> คุยอะไรกานนอ่ะ
[08:57] <Myrtti> !english | admin__
[08:58] <pu154r> ikonia: i thinki turn in the circle maybe i have to try another soloution
[08:58] <mfoniso> if I've got a package installed on my system, is there a way to access on the package file?
[08:58] <aftertaf> mfoniso: what do u mean?
[08:59] <pu154r> ikonia: apache2 module php works finde but why is php5-cgi not working i don't understand that behavior
[08:59] <ikonia> as I said, it is working for me
[09:00] <HRshovinstuff> can anyone point me to a post or answer for the proper procedure for "ejecting" a usb flash drive
[09:00] <pu154r> ikonia: did you tryed lighttpd fcgi? or apache fcgi?
[09:00] <tiyowan> Okay guys, hopefully in a couple of minutes I shall be talking from Ubuntu.
[09:00] <jan247> HRshovinstuff, easiest way is to click on the icon on your desktop showing your flash drive, then hit eject
[09:00] <aftertaf> tiyowan: good luck
[09:01] <mfoniso> aftertaf: say I've got a certain package installed on my system, and I need to install the same package on another system, but I don't have access to the package file (e.g. a .deb package or otherwise). Is there enough information to recreate the package from the installed files?
[09:01] <jan247> i mean, unmount volume
[09:01] <ikonia> pu154r: just apache
[09:01] <aftertaf> mfoniso: ouch. better to redownload the deb. i dont kow if u can do what you want to . . . .
[09:01] <HRshovinstuff> jan247: that option is not available, I have unmount.  Will that do the trick?? Only question i'm asking is because when I eject the hardware within windwos the light on it goes out, when I unmount it in *Nix the light stays on, hasn't created any problems just curios.
[09:02] <mfoniso> aftertaf: ok, thanks.
[09:02] <pu154r> ikonia: but the think is apache did not support regex based vhosts or i don't know how to use it
[09:02]  * mfoniso thinks, it's only a matter of time now
[09:02] <ardchoille> mfoniso: you also need to think about dependencies
[09:03] <mfoniso> ardchoille: yes, but that'd be something else to deal with
[09:04] <ardchoille> mfoniso: yes, as soon as the install on the other machine fails due to lack of deps ;)
[09:04] <mfoniso> ardchoille: :-)
[09:04] <jan247> guys.. got a question too -- i have two xorg configs.. one for single screen, the other for dual screen. is there a way to detect at startup if an external monitor is attached, so as to use the proper xorg config?
[09:04] <olskolirc> hey guys :-)  does linux have a flash builder like swish or macromedia mx?
[09:06] <Myrtti> olskolirc: I doubt it. Try running them on wine.
[09:06] <olskolirc> ok thanks
[09:06] <paul68> ikonia is there to your knowledge a linux distro that support creative labs xfi cards easely without much tweaking the kernel?
[09:06] <olskolirc> I found that wine and crossoveroffice doesn't handle adobe well
[09:07] <jan247> yeah. i'd say run them on a vm olskolirc.. the flash stuff that's decent enough to get working on linux are just adobe flex
[09:07] <Myrtti> olskolirc: well, might be that macromedia products would work better.
[09:07] <jan247> macromedia = adobe. hehe
[09:10] <Pie-rate> hehe, trying kubuntu livecd
[09:10] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys, am having issues playing dvds in vlc, already have libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 installed, what should i do?
[09:10] <Pie-rate> honestly after some messing with kubuntu i can't see why anyone uses ubuntu =P
[09:12] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: and the dvd's work everywhere else?
[09:12] <ohletmeinnowgodd> yeah, they work on dvd players
[09:12] <ohletmeinnowgodd> just not on linux
[09:12] <ohletmeinnowgodd> thinking it maybe a region issue?
[09:12] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: you have installed libdvdread3?
[09:13] <ohletmeinnowgodd> (07:40:41 PM) oooaaaoooaaa: hi guys, am having issues playing dvds in vlc, already have libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 installed, what should i do?
[09:13] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: try doing  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[09:13] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: and vlc ignores region codings I believe
[09:13] <ohletmeinnowgodd> but oibdvdcss2 already shows up n synaptic...?
[09:14] <aftertaf> ohletmeinnowgodd: yeah but u need to then run that script ;)
[09:14] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: did you try that command I just gave you?
[09:14] <ohletmeinnowgodd> aight ill give it a try
[09:14] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: then do a restart afterwards
[09:15] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[09:15] <ohletmeinnowgodd> does that mean its done?
[09:15] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: thats fine, its just installing. Wait for it to finish and then restart
[09:15] <whynot> Hi everyone.  I need someone help me.  Can I import explorer favorites to my ubuntu desktop that explorer was not installed?
[09:15] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ok its done ill be back
[09:15] <aftertaf> lol
[09:17] <whynot> Can I import explorer favorites from my laptop to my ubuntu desktop on which explorer was not installed?
[09:17] <ziroday> whynot: export your IE bookmarks and then copy them to your ubuntu install and import them with firefox
[09:17] <ziroday> whynot: see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/31009 for more detailed instructions https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/31009
[09:18] <safl> hey, I'm trying to build an appliance with Søren Hansens vmbuilder but i get the error: "Domain is undefined and host has no domain set", any clues?
[09:18] <whynot> ziroday/ I tried but I failed.  I'll check out that websites.  Thanks.
[09:19] <RivitingOne> Is it possible to make the GL Slideshow screen saver select images in order instead of at random? Or can someone suggest a slide show screen saver that can do this?
[09:20] <ohletmeinnowgodd> nope libdvdcss didnt do it
[09:20] <ohletmeinnowgodd> now what?
[09:21] <tv7497> is wg111 usb problem fixed in ibex ? coz last time i wanted to make this thing work in my system i needed to deal with ndiswrapper,now i just bought a new system , the wireless network is detected ( as broadcom ) ( in live cd )  but nothing works starting from firefox to pidgin little help guys :)
[09:21] <ohletmeinnowgodd> still scrambled picture + vlc crash when i try to lay it
[09:21] <diazepam> oh" - does the dvd player read data?
[09:21] <ziroday> safl: try doing sudo vmbuilder <hypervisor> <distro> --domain <domainname>
[09:22] <ohletmeinnowgodd> diazepam: i can browse through the dvd's folders...if thats what you mean?
[09:22] <arun_> ih
[09:22] <arun_> jklkj
[09:22] <ziroday> arun_: do you have a problem we can help you with?
[09:22] <RivitingOne> Is it possible to make the GL Slideshow screen saver select images in order instead of at random? Or can someone suggest a slide show screen saver that can do this?
[09:22] <ohletmeinnowgodd> i think his cat has a problem
[09:22] <aftertaf> ohletmeinnowgodd: try with xine
[09:22] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: does it work with totem?
[09:22] <ohletmeinnowgodd> no
[09:22] <arun_> actually i cant play yutube videos
[09:22] <ohletmeinnowgodd> not totem
[09:22] <ohletmeinnowgodd> i dont have zine installed
[09:22] <ziroday> !flash > arun_
[09:22] <arun_> i tried to install flash player
[09:23] <arun_> its said installation complete
[09:23] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: okay, does totem give you an error?
[09:23] <arun_> ya
[09:23] <RivitingOne> arun_ did you install flash 10?
[09:23] <arun_> yes
[09:23] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ziroday:it shows a green screen, scrambled
[09:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> doesnt seem to crash
[09:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> just a green scrambled image
[09:24] <safl> ziroday: cheers i'll try that in a sec. I "Accidently typed: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" :)
[09:24] <ziroday> arun_: okay, and when you opened firefox it didn't work?
[09:24] <ziroday> safl: no problem
[09:24] <arun_> i installed missing plug in flash player from my browser both firefox and flock
[09:25] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ziroday:when i try to lay title2 on the dvd playlist, it says cannot read from resource
[09:25] <RivitingOne> arun_: I remember I was having similar issues. Have you ever installed any flash player before?
[09:25] <arun_> it said it successfully installed flash...and needs to restart the browser
[09:25] <arun_> then again it showed missing plug in
[09:25] <whynot> ziroday/ Firefox does not read url files, but it requires HTML.  Firefox bookmark import option doesn't recognize the files inside favorite folder.
[09:26] <ziroday> arun_: how did you install it?
[09:26] <arun_> no ...its the first time in ubuntu
[09:26] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: does it happen for all dvd's or just this one?
[09:26] <arun_> i am trying to instal flash
[09:26] <ziroday> whynot: you have to export the files from IE as .htm(l) files
[09:26] <arun_> i run install.sh in terminal
[09:26] <whynot> ziroday/ok I'll try again
[09:27] <ziroday> arun_: please remove flash and follow these instructions
[09:27] <ziroday> !flash | arun_ follow these
[09:27] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ziroday:let me make sure, but im sure this is the only one
[09:27] <safl> ziroday: Cheers, that did it :)  Or i added the domain option to my appliance config file. I am most grateful!
[09:28] <ziroday> safl: have fun
[09:28] <ziroday> ohletmeinnowgodd: then I am leaning towards an issue with that particular dvd :)
[09:28] <bthornton> I'm running Ubuntu Hardy and just downloaded the alternate Intrepid CD image (same arch) with the intention of upgrading Hardy to Intrepid from the CD. Is that possible?
[09:28] <arun_> how can i check whether i have installed flash already ...how can i uninstall?i am new to linux
[09:29] <aftertaf> bthornton: yes... use 'sudo apt-cdrom add'
[09:29] <aftertaf> bthornton: or in synaptic, add the cd rom to list
[09:29] <bthornton> aftertaf: and then do a dist-upgrade?
[09:29] <RivitingOne> arun_: Have you looked at this flash 10 installation walk through? Its the one I used and it worked with no problems. http://paste.ubuntu.com/78665/
[09:29] <ziroday> !upgrade | bthornton there are notes here
[09:30] <bthornton> awesome, thanks all
[09:30] <aftertaf> thx ziroday  :) bthornton follow that, good help
[09:30] <attid> hi, i use xubuntu 8.04 and i don`t know how to disable hotkey alt+f1/f2/f3/f4. do somebody can help me ?
[09:31] <RivitingOne> Is it possible to have to have a different video drivers for each user in Ubuntu 8.04?
[09:31] <ziroday> RivitingOne: why?
[09:31] <mogi> can  a debian patch be applied to an ubuntu install?
[09:31] <ziroday> mogi: what patch?
[09:32] <whynot> ziroday/I got it.  Thanks a lot.  But it does not support local character.  I'll try to figure out howto.
[09:32] <RivitingOne> ziroday: The proprietary drivers work great for games I play in wine but the driver installed through EnvyNG worked much better for dvd playing. I get a lot of horizontal tearing with the proprietary ones.
[09:33] <Waby> Salut
[09:33] <RivitingOne> ziroday: I was thinking I could use a seperate user to watch dvds
[09:33] <ziroday> RivitingOne: no, you won't be able to. You need to change the xorg.conf everytime and restart xorg.
[09:33] <reqqit> Waby, it is spelled: hello
[09:34] <RivitingOne> siroday: drat, ah well, I guess I'll just have to live with it. Thanks for the info :)
[09:34] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ziroday: yup, i tried 4 dvds 3 worked on both dvd player and my totem except this one, it works on the dvdplayer though
[09:35] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ie this dvd of mine(which IRONICALLY is all about "cheating, lying and stealing" in "a days work" doesnt wanna work with lbdvdread/css!
[09:36] <ohletmeinnowgodd> <--------lolz
[09:36] <ohletmeinnowgodd> anyone have any idea?
[09:36] <ohletmeinnowgodd> any type of info off the physical dvd that might be of use?
[09:36] <ohletmeinnowgodd> anyone?
[09:37] <ohletmeinnowgodd> uhh guys?
[09:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> can someone help me with my dvdplayback issues?
[09:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> im having trouble playing a dvd
[09:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> reinstalled libdvdread3/css and still wont work
[09:38] <dslfjsldfj> q
[09:42] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[09:42] <ziroday> laobing: /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:43] <dsdeiz> hi how do i update firefox in ubuntu?
[09:43] <ziroday> dsdeiz: updates will come with every update
[09:44] <NetM> dsdeiz : System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[09:44] <dsdeiz> though i would just like to update firefox for now
[09:44] <dsdeiz> hehe
[09:44] <ziroday> dsdeiz: then just select firefox in the update manager
[09:47] <Roger_K> has anyone gotten the creative x-fi to work on ubuntu?
[09:49] <mogi>  ziroday sorry was in another channel, the patch is for libgnutls13
[09:50] <mogi> ziroday: well its tls26 in debian
[09:50] <supermelet> tbgkung,jnn.kitbn
[09:50] <supermelet> hi
[09:50] <mogi> ziroday: but i decided its better if i just downgrade the pkg via aptitude until updated pkg w/ bug fix is in repos
[09:51] <mogi> ziroday:  so now question = how do u downgrade and avoid upgrade of 1 pkg via aptitude?
[09:51] <supermelet> hi
[09:51] <supermelet> leh knal g
[09:51] <mogi> i'd like to keep it downgraded for 1-2 months.  repos should have bugfixed upgrade by then
[09:51] <supermelet> iki ndi tow chanelx
[09:52] <supermelet> kowe pisan ngomong opo to yo2
[09:52] <oskar-> !en | supermelet
[09:52] <supermelet> eh cuy leh gbng g?
[09:54] <supermelet> eh cuy leh gbng g?
[09:54] <supermelet> iki ndi tow wonge
[09:54] <supermelet> astaga
[09:54] <supermelet> suwi tenan
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> wow google must be up for once, no one asking questions :)
[09:57] <Drakma> so
[09:57] <Drakma> what does everybody here use for their irc client?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> pidgin
[09:57] <oskar-> xchat
[09:57] <NetM> now xchat
[09:57] <oskar-> three... that was everybody ;)
[09:57] <NetM> or wine with mirc , my script :)
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> ewww
[09:57] <phnom> Anyone here who have any tips on disabling the touchpad while typing on the 904HD? I've tried syndaemon and it won't work =/
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> phnom: you could rmmod the module for the mouse maybe
[09:58] <phnom> Thought of that, but how to execute a script whenever i press any button?
[09:59] <ooglebutte> bash alias?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> phnom: sounds like a lot of effort to me
[10:00] <phnom> ActionParsnip, Ya, exactly... Have  a working script that toggles the touchpad but I want it to be automagically disabled while typing.
[10:00] <ooglebutte> !shortcuts
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> phnom: you could have a key yo enable / disable in gnome, you could turn it off and on like a switch with that
[10:02] <phnom> ActionParsnip, yep, I have it mapped to one of my userdefined buttons. But I want it disabled whenever I type _anything_ on the keyboard... Have an eee pc btw
[10:02] <Maveas> Do you guys know if there is an unofficial support channel for Apache?
[10:03] <phnom> ActionParsnip, and then enabled again after a set time interval ofc
[10:03] <BlueEraser> Im having a bit of trouble, when i try to allow my proprietary driver to download and run that 8.10 has detedted, it wont allow it
[10:03] <ziroday> Maveas: #apache?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> phnom: not sure dude, i think its gonna be a manual job, eee pc is sweeeeet
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser: are you using sudo / gksudo to run the app to get the driver?
[10:04] <BlueEraser> well, its not that its not being allowed, its just not doing anything
[10:04] <phnom> ActionParsnip, I agree, have everything working except that little annnoyance... Well, thanks for trying :) I'll dig deeper
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser: you may need to configure your system to use whats downloaded
[10:05] <BlueEraser> ActionParsnip: no, ubuntu detected it for me and told me which one it recommended, when it trys to download, nil
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser: is this for nvidia drivers?
[10:06] <BlueEraser> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | BlueEraser
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser: Theres a nice guide there, or you can try !envyng
[10:07] <BlueEraser> ActionParsnip: ok, ill take a look thank you
[10:12] <BlueEraser> ActionParsnip: is there something i can tyoe to make sure i dont see everyone comming and going from this room?
[10:12] <Roger_K> probably in preferences
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser: depends on client
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser: pidgin has a plugin for it
[10:14] <mogi> hi how would i downgrade a pkg via aptitude?
[10:14] <BlueEraser> yeah, im on pidgin, ill have to take a closer look
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser: ctrl+u on main pidgin window ;)
[10:15] <da> Sonu
[10:17] <BlueEraser> ActionParsnip: so by typing lspci | grep VGA it gave me a read out, and told me what i already knew, but was i acully telling the OS to look there for the card?
[10:18] <BlueEraser> because after typing the command, the install went fine
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> then i have no idea, you got the goal which is cool though :)
[10:19] <AdvoWork> Hi there. ive got a USB HD plugged into my server and its being found on /mnt/USB and ive got my hd data within /mnt/DATA/FILES  whats the easiest way to do a complete backup of /mnt/DATA/FILES to the USB drive?
[10:19] <BlueEraser> ActionParsnip: lol true, thanks for the heads up on the coming/going plugin too
[10:19] <ikonia> AdvoWork: copy the files
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: you could dd or cp the data
[10:20] <Roger_K> cd blah blah usb cp blah blah files
[10:20] <Roger_K> i think
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> cp /mnt/DATA/FILES/ /mnt/USB/
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> sould do it
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> it'll copy the FILES folder to the USB drive
[10:22] <AdvoWork> cool, will i also see the progress or can i make it show me? as theres so much data, just want to know how long its going to take etc
[10:23] <Roger_K> use apt-get
[10:23] <Roger_K> and get a gui or something
[10:23] <BlueEraser> i love this new feature of creating a usb startup disk right in the admin-->
[10:24] <hml> i'm having problems viewing quicktime movies with ubuntu's mplayer; in particular, i'm trying to watch siggrpah talks on portal.acm.org
[10:24] <AdvoWork> Roger_K,  recommendations?
[10:24] <hml> i'm having problems viewing quicktime movies with ubuntu's mplayer; in particular, i'm trying to watch siggrpah talks on portal.acm.org; is there anything i can apt-get to make mplayer mor epowerful?
[10:24] <Roger_K> thunar
[10:25] <Roger_K> also hml apt-cache search mplayer
[10:25] <Roger_K> vlc is good
[10:25] <BlueEraser> vlc is best :)
[10:25] <Roger_K> indeed BlueEraser
[10:26] <hml> have you guys tried this?
[10:26] <hml> i've done the seaches
[10:26] <hml> tried vlc, and cna't find more mplayer moduels
[10:26] <Roger_K> i can play quicktime fine
[10:26] <Roger_K> i use all kinds of quicktime codecs and they all work in vlc
[10:27] <Roger_K> hml your talking about totem movie player right
[10:27] <hml> no, i'm talking about typing in mplayer & vlc at the command line
[10:27] <hml> should I install totem?
[10:27] <BlueEraser> hml: i cant help you, but if you describe your error well, someone here may be able to
[10:27] <hml> i'm trying to view: http://delivery.acm.org/10.1145/1280000/1276379/a1-yuan.mov?key1=1276379&key2=8550318221&coll=portal&dl=ACM&CFID=12867085&CFTOKEN=60833923
[10:28] <Roger_K> what are you using to play the quicktime file
[10:28] <hml> it works on my mac, but not on my linux machine, when i use either mplayer of vlc on that url
[10:28] <AdvoWork> argh crap, just thought, i can only copy the files over ssh terminal, so is there a copy program that works in terminal that shows progress
[10:28] <Roger_K> im watching it right now through vlc
[10:29] <hml> Roger_K: amazing, when I vlc that url, i just get a blank screen
[10:29] <Roger_K> playing perfectly fine
[10:29] <hml> Roger_K: can you send me the output of dpkg -l ?
[10:29] <BlueEraser> hml: are you getting an error?
[10:30] <hml> BlueEraser: [00000001] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[10:30] <hml> [00000416] live555 demux error: no data received in 10s, aborting
[10:30] <hml> crap, do I need to open some ports on my firewall?
[10:30] <hml> my iptables blocks all incoming traffic unless it's established/related connections
[10:31] <hov> i selected suspend and now i can only see a black screen with a _
[10:31] <hov> what can i do to wake it up
[10:31] <hov> it's a laptop
[10:31] <hml> hov: there's somme optino in /etc that needs to be set for suspend to work
[10:31] <hov> hml: but now i already did it
[10:32] <hml> BlueEraser, Roger_K : okay, I killed my firewall, it works now; thanks!
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | hml
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> !firestarter | hml
[10:33] <qmr> Any bright ideas for OSS movie editing?  before I use Windows Movies Maker..
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> !avidemux | qmr
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> !info avidemux | qmr
[10:34] <bullgard4> What files are stored in the directory /etc/init.d and what files not?
[10:34] <SlimeyPete> bullgard4: startup scripts
[10:34] <SlimeyPete> for starting various services when the system boots
[10:35] <ooglebutte> they are used in the /etc/rc#.d folders
[10:35] <lance> what do you think of xubuntu
[10:35] <qmr> ActionParsnip: avidemux is useless.  have you ever even used it?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> qmr: no, im not interested in that sort of thing. maybe you should explore it more. ive heard great tings
[10:36] <Tekno> Cinelerra
[10:36] <Tekno> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra
[10:36] <qmr> ActionParsnip: maybe you shouldn't blather on about things which you know nothing about
[10:36] <johan_> !info kino
[10:36] <qmr> I have used it, it does nothing but cut clips and recode.
[10:37] <qmr> Tekno: I have cinelerra installed, it's confusing and does nothing but freeze when I load a video file in it :|
[10:37] <ziroday> qmr: take a look at pitvi
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> qmr: I know the names of apps that achieve gols. i never said anything about quality. lose the attitude
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> qmr: tried: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/
[10:37] <qmr> johan_: have kino too (I can use google people).  it's converting a file to DV now so I can try to play with it.  it seems most promising so far
[10:37] <bullgard4> SlimeyPete, ooglebutte: Thank you.
[10:37] <ooglebutte> np
[10:38] <qmr> ActionParsnip: You don't seem to know names of apps that achieve goals because as I just said avidemux is useless
[10:38] <qmr> ActionParsnip: not tried compiling from cvs, no
[10:38] <qmr> ziroday: have you used it?  I'm reading on their wiki now
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> qmr: few times yeah, works fine
[10:38] <hov> i selected suspend and now i can only see a black screen with a _
[10:38] <qmr> ActionParsnip: few times?
[10:39] <hov> what can i do to wake it up
[10:39] <ziroday> qmr: its extremely promising, unfortunately still early in development. What level are you trying to edit to movies?
[10:39] <qmr> ziroday: ah.. level?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> qmr: yeah ive compiled from cvs a few times
[10:39] <qmr> ActionParsnip: ah
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> hov: you could stab ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:39] <hov> ActionParsnip: i dont want to lose the session
[10:39] <qmr> Well, I'm going to arcade today with a girl for her first time playign DDR / ITG2.  Going to record some HD video of the event, then dress it up and post on my website
[10:39] <ziroday> qmr: as in its not meant as an enterprise level tool, but for organizing clips + music with some effects it should be fine
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> hov: you may have to, suspend is a PITA
[10:40] <qmr> So, basically a few titles, transitions, some bg music
[10:40] <bullgard4> What are the filenames of the startup scripts of the shell?
[10:40] <qmr> ziroday: do files need to be in DV before they can be worked with?
[10:40] <ziroday> qmr: only downside is that is early in development and can be buggy. YMMV
[10:40] <ziroday> qmr: no
[10:40] <tdreyer1> hov: try typing in your password. ive gotten that to work sometimes when it seems to not be responding...
[10:40] <qmr> ziroday: everything cool is early in development and buggy :|
[10:41] <ziroday> bullgard4: you mean what gets executed everytime you open a terminal?
[10:41] <ziroday> qmr: *shrug*, try it out and see, its not like its going to kill you
[10:41] <qmr> ziroday: ja.
[10:41] <qmr> Trying to add a title in kino now
[10:42] <bullgard4> ziroday: Not only a terminal but also when calling the bash.
[10:42] <johan_> qmr http://lives.sourceforge.net/
[10:42] <qmr> johan_: installed.  won't run. :|
[10:42] <johan_> oh danrn :(
[10:42] <johan_>  also not the getdeb.net packages ?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> qmr: try apt-cache search video | grep -i edit
[10:42] <ziroday> bullgard4: see your ~/.bashrc
[10:42] <ooglebutte> bullgard4: in /etc/rcS.d S90console-screen.sh here
[10:43] <ziroday> bullgard4: as well as /etc/bash*
[10:43] <[c0re]> hi i need help with grub..
[10:43] <Tekno> and
[10:44] <[c0re]> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[10:44] <[c0re]> Error 15: File not found
[10:44] <[c0re]> this error
[10:44] <ashutosh> hello
[10:44] <ashutosh> a little help, pleas
[10:44] <hml> how do I do the equiv of "mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile blah.mp4 url" with vlc? (man vlc doesn't show much)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> !ask | ashutosh
[10:45] <AdvoWork> would rsync work like this?  rsync -v -e ssh /localdir/folder/ /remote/folder ?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> hml: what are you trying to achieve?
[10:45] <hml> ActionParsnip: record streaming videos to watch offline
[10:45] <hml> so i can fast forward / scroll back & forth easier
[10:45] <johan_> [c0re], on a live cd ?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> hml: is it a flash video?
[10:45] <sjoerd>
[10:45] <[c0re]> johan_,
[10:45] <[c0re]> no
[10:46] <hml> no, it's some crap that vlc can play though
[10:46] <ashutosh> after downloading the ubuntu .iso file, and burning it to a cd, what do i do to get to the os
[10:46] <qmr> Well I'm halfway to adding a title in kino :p
[10:46] <[c0re]> johan_, i am trying to install gfxboot. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855&page=6
[10:46] <tdreyer1> ashutosh: you need to boot a computer with the cd in the drive to start the installation
[10:46] <BlueEraser1> hey, i have no sound at all, is there a good place to start figuring aout why?
[10:46] <johan_> [c0re], hmm strange you get that error
[10:47] <[c0re]> hmm
[10:47] <tdreyer1> BlueEraser1: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=ZT6&q=site%3Aubuntuforums.org+no+sound&btnG=Search
[10:47] <l43a2> :)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> hml: if its realplayer typed then: http://thomer.com/howtos/capture_realstream.html will help, i'd imagine the syntax is similar for other formats
[10:47] <ziroday> !sound | BlueEraser1
[10:48] <ashutosh> after downloading the ubuntu .iso file, and burning it to a cd what do i do to get to it
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> hml: you need to make sure mplayer can actually play the file first
[10:48] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: but first go to the sound control and make sure PCM is up
[10:48] <qmr> 35 minutes to render a small title?  :-|
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> ashutosh: boot to the cd, you will need to set bios to boot cd first
[10:48] <hml> ActionParsnip: no no, I have to use vlc; I know how to dump with mplayer; i'm trying to find the equiv commanddd with vlc :-)
[10:48] <ashutosh> and then
[10:48] <ashutosh> insert the disk at boot
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> hml: http://forum.videohelp.com/topic316907.html
[10:49] <qmr> now it's 45 minutes!
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> ashutosh: no, have it in before the bios appears
[10:49] <qmr> I hate computers they are all tooooo slowwwww
[10:49] <ashutosh> so fast?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> qmr: not here :D
[10:49] <qmr> ActionParsnip: yes there too :P
[10:49] <napster_> Help, help, help help
[10:50] <NetM> qmr every computer runs ubuntu its fast :D
[10:50] <defrysk> lol
[10:50] <qmr> Whenever I get around to building a new machine I'm going to have like 2 or 4 CPUs, and at least 8gb ram.  still won't be fast enough
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> qmr: nar, few dual core cpus and about 8gb ram should be plenty fast for me
[10:50] <BlueEraser1> ziroday: do you mean sound preferences?
[10:50] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: yep
[10:50] <Myrtti> napster_: we don't have crystal balls yet
[10:50] <napster_> oh i c
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> !ask | napster_
[10:50] <napster_> lol
[10:50] <qmr> NetM: It's pretty easy to prove that XP is a billion times faster than Ubuntu desktop.  In fact I am going ot release a video showing as much... loook for it on FP of digg soon :p
[10:50] <ashutosh> so just after pressing the starting the pc(press the power button), i have to insert the disk, aint it
[10:51] <ardchoille> !ot
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Myrtti: i do but i have pills to sort them out ;)
[10:51] <Maveas> How do I connect to a local exchange server? :S
[10:51] <qmr> ActionParsnip: I'm working on 3ghz p4c / 3096mb ram now
[10:51] <napster_> I'm unable to install any program via add/remove
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> qmr: not bad at all
[10:51] <Myrtti> !offtopic | qmr
[10:51] <ziroday> Maveas: I have never done so myself, but I believe you can with evolution
[10:51] <napster_> in ubuntu 8.10
[10:51] <NetM> qmr no way :)
[10:51] <Myrtti> please take the offtopic to somewhere else
[10:51] <BlueEraser1> ziroday: where sould the PCM be up, under which category?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> napster_: try apt-get instead it will give intelligent output
[10:51] <Maveas> I only need to connect to the folder on the server
[10:52] <Maveas> Filefolder or whatever exchange calls it
[10:52] <qmr> ActionParsnip: except for the 40 minutes to render this movie.  I guess I need to try to figure out all my effects etc then render output
[10:52] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: sorry, you went to the panel and right clicked on the volume control there right? It will open a window with a bunch of sliders one of those is labeled with PCM
[10:52] <napster_> I've tried but the message said that you must connect to the internet,
[10:52] <bullgard4> ziroday, ooglebutte: Thank you.
[10:52] <ashutosh> so just after pressing the power button, i have to insert the disk
[10:52] <Myrtti> Maveas: exchange 2003 or exchange 2007?
[10:52] <napster_> even I'm using dsl line
[10:52] <qmr> Myrtti: no idea what you are talking about
[10:52] <ziroday> napster_: can you access the internet on that computer?
[10:52] <napster_> and my other application are working fine
[10:52] <napster_> yes
[10:53] <Maveas> Myrtti: I believe it 2003
[10:53] <ziroday> napster_: can you pastebin the ouput of sudo apt-get update
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> !paste | napster_
[10:53] <napster_> let me check
[10:53] <DwMakero> ola
[10:53] <DwMakero> ahora estoy en ubuntu 8.10 en modo live eval, pero el sonido no me funciona
[10:53] <Myrtti> !es | DwMakero
[10:53] <ardchoille> !es | DwMakero
[10:53] <ashutosh> so just after pressing the power button, i have to insert the disk, isnt it
[10:54] <ziroday> ashutosh: correct
[10:54] <ashutosh> thanks
[10:54] <Tekno> Eliminar pulso de audio-ni los votos comenzará a actuar. Es una completa mierda.
[10:55] <BlueEraser1> ziroday: yes, pcm is on
[10:55] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: and to full?
[10:55] <BlueEraser1> ziroday: how would i know if my sound card is detected?
[10:55] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: oh I thought it was working before?
[10:55] <BlueEraser1> no, brand new install
[10:56] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: ah okay, do you know what sound card you have?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: lspci will tell you what it is
[10:56] <BlueEraser1> it was a gift.....
[10:56] <babo> is there anyway to edit a pdf document /
[10:56] <babo> ?
[10:56] <blip-> hi all, my ubuntu 8.04 doesn't boot anymore it hangs on the line saying Starting local boot scripts /etc/local.rc  (or maybe rc.local).... this happened after i modified menu.lst... what should i do ? shall i boot liveCD and restore menu.lst to previous state or is that not the cause ?
[10:56] <l43a2> open it in a pdf editer?
[10:56] <Maveas> Myrtti: Have you tried Brutus?
[10:56] <ardchoille> !info pdfedit
[10:57] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: okay, I presumed you connected your sound card to your motherboard?
[10:57] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: or by another method?
[10:57] <BlueEraser1> ziroday: its connected to the sound card in the pci slot
[10:57] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: okay, pastebin the output of lspci please
[10:57] <blip-> !flash
[10:58] <blip-> !darcs
[10:58] <BlueEraser1> what do i type in the terminal to see what the card is?
[10:58] <giskard2> hello
[10:58] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: lspci
[10:58] <blip-> we should be able to type in "what is the card"
[10:58] <BlueEraser1> lol
[10:59] <napster_>  same error, "The list of application is not available"
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> blip-: which card is meant by "the card" though
[10:59] <ziroday> napster_: did you pastebin that output for me?
[10:59] <Maveas> If someone know how to connect to a ms exchange server on ubuntu I would be very happy :) plz msg me
[10:59] <napster_> yes, how i can do?
[11:00] <BlueEraser1> 02:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
[11:00] <blip-> ActionParsnip, well you'd probably have versions of it,  what is the video card,  what is the sound card etc..  i think you can do with aliases in .bashrc... if it allows spaces which it probably doesn't
[11:00] <BlueEraser1> is this a decent car?
[11:00] <thegve> Maveas, Evolution can do this
[11:00] <GFree> this is what I hate about using Linux/Ubuntu - there's always that 10% of things that you want it to do which you COULD if you were running Windows. :(
[11:00] <thegve> installed by default in Ubuntu
[11:00] <AdvoWork> Im doing rsync -v /mnt/Data/FILES/ /mnt/USB/FILES/  but its not actually copying the folders, any ideas? and saying: sent 8 bytes  received 12 bytes  40.00 bytes/sec
[11:00] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: that is a creative x-fi, support for it is extremely patchy
[11:00] <AdvoWork> theres tons on there though//
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> blip-: linux doesnt like spaces too much, you could make them using lspci with various greps
[11:01] <thegve> just tested, I can configure it in the startup wizard ( I have not configured it yet )
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: ziroday: yep, they only just support windows
[11:01] <DwMakero> a ver ¿quien me puede echar una mano con lo del sonido en el macbook?
[11:01] <blip-> DwMakero, no
[11:01] <BlueEraser1> ziroday: really all i want is stereo any help there?
[11:01] <ardchoille> !es | DwMakero
[11:01] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: I am looking around for you know :)
[11:01] <Oli``> How can I force-unmount a gvfs-mounted remote server? It's making things unstable while it's down
[11:01] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: but I wouldn't hold your breath
[11:02] <Myrtti> DwMakero: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:02] <JEEB> Hello, where should I tell that x264 discontinued its support for nasm so that yasm would be used instead in the build-dep selection?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: ive seen some posts where you compile the driver
[11:02] <BlueEraser1> i know my onboard audio works if there isnt anything
[11:02] <thegve> I'm having trouble running java/netbeans on my 64bit system.
[11:02] <BlueEraser1> ActionParsnip: how do you go about that?
[11:03] <thegve> (getting details)...
[11:03] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: can you follow these instructions so we know exactly which card you have http://support.creative.com/kb/showarticle.aspx?sid=6843
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: sudo apt-get install build-essential is a good start
[11:03] <l43a2> ^^^^
[11:03] <thegve> Problematic frame: C  [libc.so.6+0x315af]  catgets+0x1f
[11:04] <Maveas> thegve: without any plugin etc.? :)
[11:04] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: you may want to join #creative on this server, the people there are great and should be able to help you out more
[11:04] <thegve> Maveas, yes
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> creative sucks
[11:04] <mogi> hey i decided to require ssf=256 on my ldap server, how do i force clients to use same ssf=256?  i know thats the cause of the prob by testing and from logs
[11:04] <Maveas> Nice, thanks thegve :)
[11:04] <AdvoWork> how do you copy directories with rsync?
[11:04] <ziroday> BlueEraser1: also see http://connect.creativelabs.com/opensource/default.aspx
[11:04] <thegve> AdvoWork, rsync source destination
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: http://www.samba.org/ftp/rsync/rsync.html
[11:05] <thegve> but that is just rsync --help. Explained quite clearly
[11:05] <xof_> #fr.wikipedia
[11:05] <napster_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/78696/
[11:05] <Maveas> It's just an standard email account?
[11:06] <ariqs> my hd is grinding away and ubuntu is acting a bit slow
[11:06] <ariqs> how do I figure out what the issue is? clearly, files are being moved around for some reason
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> ariqs: top may help
[11:06] <ziroday> napster_: can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update please.
[11:06] <napster_> yes
[11:07] <napster_> but still the same problem
[11:07] <Maveas> thegve: How do I configure Thunderbird to use exchange then? :S
[11:07] <Flannel> napster_: Right, but the output tells us a lot about what's going on
[11:07] <Flannel> !pastebin | napster_
[11:08] <nucco1> is anyone here able to unlock console-kit apps with fingerprint reader?
[11:08] <thegve> Maveas, easiest is always to configure the exchange server to use imap
[11:08] <napster_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/78696/ check it
[11:08] <AdvoWork> thegve, ActionParsnip  but i tried: rsync -v /mnt/Data/FILES/ /mnt/USB/FILES/ and it didnt work :S
[11:08] <Maveas> What if I just need to access the file server? :S
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: you know as much as I do, i just use cp
[11:08] <ziroday> napster_: we are asking for information, unless you give it to us we cannot help you.
[11:09] <Flannel> napster_: No.  Pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[11:09] <thegve> If you're not able to do this, then (just googled up, not tested): http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/03/30/howto-thunderbird-and-ms-exchange-server/
[11:09] <ariqs> actionparnip: does ubuntu run any sort of automated defragmentation sort of deal?
[11:09] <Flannel> !defrag | ariqs
[11:09] <jussi01> !defrag
[11:09] <nucco1> AdvoWork: try rsync -avP source dest
[11:09] <napster_> Reading packages list ..Done
[11:10] <thegve> Maveas, they use imap too..
[11:10] <ziroday> napster_: you need to pastebin the *entire* output, like you did with your question
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> ariqs: no as the file system is made well so the writing of data on the drive is more planned than the windows way of just dumping it where there is any sort of free space
[11:10] <napster_> how i can do this?> I am just new to ubuntu
[11:10] <peterz> ubottu: sure ext3 tries to avoid fragmentation, that doesn't say it will not fragment after a while
[11:10] <ariqs> I don't think that's quite what NTFS does :p maybe fat does
[11:11] <ziroday> napster_: you run the command, copy your entire terminal output and pastebin it like you did with your question
[11:11] <napster_> ok
[11:11] <ariqs> anyway, I don't know why my hd is grinding away, i'm using 30% of memory and hardly any swap t all
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> ariqs: i'd imagine drives 'can' get fragmented but you'd have to really REALLY try but as a standard user I wouldnt worry about it
[11:11] <Milos> Exec something into a var?
[11:11] <thegve> peterz, I think ext3 does some defragmentation automatically when the system is idle. But is indeed very little and a lot less than what NTFS needs.
[11:11] <Milos> os.exec("ping google.com") but put the output in a var?
[11:11] <Milos> os.system *
[11:11] <peterz> thegve: it does not
[11:11] <Milos> I mean
[11:11] <ariqs> it seems to be related to my use of firefox
[11:11] <CrownAmbassador> I've been having a issue with my adsl connection since I installed Ibex. I can't connect. My 3G connection works perfectly, but when I plug in my adsl connection it tells me i'm connected, but I'm not. I've gotten some help on linuxquestions, but nothing works properly. We've been able to connect by editting the interfaces file, but then my network connection manager disappears and I can't connect with 3G then. Also, with the altered file, my ALSA
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> ariqs: thats pretty much what it does, its garbage and the security model is stupid too
[11:12] <e911> Does the 8.10 live cd for i386 really need 384MB ram?
[11:12] <thegve> Maveas, Netbeans without plugins
[11:12] <e911> It seems to work fine here with 256 MB
[11:12] <ziroday> e911: yes, however the alternate cd needs less
[11:12] <napster_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/78697/
[11:12] <thegve> Netbeans 6.5 as downloaded, not from the ubuntu repo's
[11:12] <ariqs> ActionParnip: what about copying its table to the middle of the drive? Rather nice, I should say
[11:12] <ziroday> napster_: and that is the entire output?
[11:12] <napster_> yes
[11:12] <thegve> but I still have the 6.1 from te repository's, and that doesn't work either
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ariqs: table?
[11:13] <thegve> I think it is a java problem...
[11:13] <ziroday> napster_: can you pastebin apt-cache policy gedit
[11:13] <Kate28f> Hello , i would like to know if its possible to use grep/cat to show lines without specific char ? for example , i would like to print just the lines which not contain the char "A" ?
[11:13] <ziroday> napster_: as well as /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:13] <AdvoWork> nucco1, i tried it without archiving so -vP and the same thing happened, nothing
[11:14] <Milos> How can I execute something in Pythin and get the ouput in a var?
[11:14] <Milos> Python *
[11:14] <e911> ziroday as u said, works here with 256MB (in save graphics mode). Is there anything bad going to happen if i'm going to use it to copy one hdd to antoher?
[11:14] <napster_> ok
[11:14] <zer0_> slow performance with ubuntu 8.10..how to fix??
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: get full updates, install good video drivers, more ram ;)
[11:15] <ceil420> better DE/wm
[11:15] <ariqs> ActionParsnip, MFT
[11:15] <ariqs> ActionParsnip, NTFS seems rather spiffy to me, and I'm not windows lover ;)
[11:15] <Maveas> thegve: huh? netbeans?
[11:15] <zer0_> already update with all new..already install with video driver.ram is 2gb
[11:16] <ziroday> zer0_: which part is slow exactly, what programs?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> ariqs: the security is not in every file, its inherited from above so lots of files have no security on them  outside of windows. its appauling
[11:16] <thegve> Maveas, sorry, I've mistaken you for someone who had answered my question...
[11:16] <shams1> which is the best for an isp style mail server? exim4, postfix or qmail?
[11:16] <thegve> looking up the right user ;)
[11:16] <zer0_> almost all..mostly too when open firefox
[11:16] <OB1FoShoB> 8.10 x64 flash 10 -- slow/laggy -- any ideas?
[11:16] <AdvoWork> ahh -r should work
[11:16] <ariqs> ActionParsnip,  what bout with encryption? surely not then ;)
[11:17] <ziroday> zer0_: okay, run the command top and see what is taking all your processing power
[11:17] <napster_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/78699/
[11:17] <napster_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/78698/
[11:17] <zer0_> xorg
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> ariqs: in linux theres no need due to the security model, extra steps are not needed
[11:18] <ziroday> napster_: right, you have no /etc/apt/sources.list. This is why you have the errors
[11:18] <napster_> now?
[11:18] <napster_> how i can solve it?
[11:18] <ziroday> napster_: correct, what country are you in?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> napster_: here's mine
[11:18] <ooglebutte> !repos
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> http://pastebin.com/f1682e00b
[11:18] <napster_> Pakistan
[11:18] <thegve> Found it, no-one answered yet, let's ask again. I'm having trouble running Netbeans/Java on Ubuntu 8.10 64bit. The error java gives is : Problematic frame: C  [libc.so.6+0x315af]  catgets+0x1f
[11:18] <e911> Hmm isn't it agressive that the livecd uses swap partitions on the local hdd without asking? Imean, i could have had my hybernate state in there :-O
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> napster_: put all that into /etc/apt/source.list
[11:19] <zer0_> xorg=3.0 mem
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> thegve: try #ubuntu-devel
[11:19] <thegve> ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:21] <ariqs> it's firefox. the moment I start up firefox, my HD starts grinding away like crazy
[11:21] <zer0_> actionparsnip..firefox on ubuntu 8.10 is slow..lag..
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: try opera to see if its your connection
[11:21] <zer0_> taking almost 1 sec to minimize/maximize.
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: or you could rename ~/.moilla to see if its a corrupt profile
[11:21] <zer0_> my connection is good.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: firefox isnt the quickest browser
[11:22] <zer0_> rename???detail please.i am new ubuntu user
[11:22] <nucco1> zer0_: does it work after all the grinding?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: killall firefox; mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old; firefox &
[11:24] <zer0_> cannot stat `/root/.mozilla': No such file or directory
[11:24] <jenny_Carlos> Hello,   I created a custom sound effects array using the .ogg files in the sounds directory.  The only sounds that play are the login sounds.  Is there some reason why the click and window size and blah blah sounds are not playing?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: why are you logged in as root?
[11:24] <BlueEraser1> if i have downloaded a tar.gz and want to compile it what should it do, also if it is the the correct drivers, what would eb a the side effects?
[11:25] <zer0_> owh..sorry2.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: running firefox as root is MASSIVELY unsecure
[11:25] <candan> hi
[11:25] <zer0_> i dont know it..y it now unsecure?
[11:25] <candan> how can i do avermedia a700 dvb card fix for ubuntu?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: as you are running a web facing app over the internet, if an attacker breaches your system and takes controi, s/he will gain the current permissions (root), if yuo run as a user they will only get user access which is drastically limited
[11:26] <ariqs> meh, firefox suks ;P
[11:26] <wos> hey guys, what do you do in ubuntu when a window is longer than your screen?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: you dont NEED root access to type docs and browse the web, its stupid to log on as root unless in a data recovery situation
[11:27] <SlimeyPete> wos: hold alt + drag with the mouse until you find the edge of the window
[11:27] <SlimeyPete> then resize it if possible
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> wos: alt drag it
[11:27] <zer0_> owh..then i need to make some/new user ????
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: no, you made one when you first installed the system
[11:27] <BlueEraser1> ActionParsnip: is a tar.gz considered a tar ball?
[11:28] <thegve> BlueEraser1, yes
[11:28] <ceil420> BlueEraser1, a compressed one, yes
[11:28] <zer0_> i made it
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: yes, tar zxvf <file>.tar.gz
[11:28] <zer0_> i know my name user..
[11:28] <zetyus> hi
[11:28] <aeosynth> I just found out that my processor is 64 bit, do I need to make another Live CD or is there an easier way to install from within the 32 bit version I'm using right now?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: then you should use that, not root
[11:28] <zetyus> to all
[11:28] <aeosynth> to install the 64 bit version of Ubuntu*
[11:28] <zer0_> owh..yes,,i login into it now..
[11:28] <BlueEraser1> ActionParsnip: what am i to do with it, and if they arent the correct drivers for my sound card could it mess anything up?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> aeosynth: if you use < 2Gb ram and its a desktop system i'd suggest 32bit
[11:29] <zer0_> got this error
[11:29] <zer0_> firefox(23863): Operation not permitted
[11:29] <zer0_> firefox: no process killed
[11:29] <zer0_> [1] 24310
[11:29] <FloodBot3> zer0_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: if they are the wrong drivers it wont work, you can then remove the stuff you compiles
[11:29] <zetyus> on my pc i got ubuntu and windows i installed windows xp after installing ubuntu
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: that means there was no firefox to kill when you ran my command
[11:30] <aeosynth> so since I only have 1 gig of ram, would there be no difference between the 32 and 64 bit versiosn?
[11:30] <jenny_Carlos> No help on my sound problem?
[11:30] <jamil_1> What is a good irc client for ubuntu ?
[11:30] <BlueEraser1> ActionParsnip: should i compile from the terminal?
[11:30] <KillGuta> how do I shutdown the x-server?
[11:30] <ceil420> jamil_1, xchat for a graphical one, irssi if you like the terminal
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: yep, easiest way
[11:30] <erUSUL> jamil_1: xchat
[11:30] <tdreyer1> !sound | jenny_Carlos
[11:30] <BlueEraser1> jamil_1: pidgin
[11:30] <zetyus> now when i start my system it startt booting from windows ?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> KillGuta: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:31] <ceil420> BlueEraser1, he said GOOD irc client
[11:31] <ceil420> *cough*
[11:31] <zetyus> how to rescue my ubuntu previously installed ?
[11:31] <SlimeyPete> KillGuta: go to a terminal and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", then hit ctrl-alt-backspace to manually kill it if necessary
[11:31] <BlueEraser1> works for me
[11:31] <SlimeyPete> (you probably won't have to do the second bit)
[11:31] <zetyus> or have i to reinstalled ubuntu ?
[11:31] <zetyus> help
[11:31] <ceil420> BlueEraser1, telnet works for IRC too; doesn't make it any less of a PITA :)
[11:31] <zetyus> hello
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> jamil_1: i like pidgin, tyr a few, see which you like
[11:31] <SlimeyPete> !grub | zetyus
[11:31] <tdreyer1> Jamil_1: how about xchat
[11:31] <jenny_Carlos> lol No my sound works great.  Only the sounds that ubuntu wants to play play.  I set up a custom set of sounds for clicking and window sizeing blah blah,  Only sounds that play are the login sounds,  Whats up with that?  And yes they are checked on lol
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> !sound | jenny_Carlos
[11:32] <zetyus> thx SlimeyPete
[11:32] <zetyus> that 's wwhat i want to d o
[11:32] <zetyus> thx a lot
[11:32] <Oli``> When I click anything in the Places menu it comes back with a "Could not open location 'file:///<path'" error. All the locations work from an existing nautilus screen.
[11:32] <candan> hey i need avermedia a700 dvb card driver?
[11:33] <candan> help plz
[11:33] <zer0_> actionparsnip,,http://paste.ubuntu.com/78709/
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> zer0_: yes you showed me that
[11:33] <aeosynth> Since I only have 1 gig of ram, would I notice any difference between the 32 and 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[11:33] <zetyus> but the page are temporaly unavailable
[11:33] <candan> 32
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> aeosynth: if its for desktop stuffs then not really
[11:34] <aeosynth> k, thanks then
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> aeosynth: if its for server things then 64 bit can be advantageous
[11:34] <zetyus> SlimeyPete: do u check the link is it working ?
[11:34] <zer0_> actionparsnip: what next??
[11:34] <Funnyplay> hi
[11:34] <thiebaude> good morning, ActionParsnip
[11:34] <Funnyplay> i got a problem with ubuntu 8.10
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo thiebaude
[11:34] <Funnyplay> i can't connect with my wireless network
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Funnyplay
[11:34] <thiebaude> haha, yo yo yo
[11:34] <Funnyplay> because
[11:35] <KriS|work> Hi, is there a way to have dpkg install deb's from a directory and resolving all dependencies first? All required dependencies/packages are in this directory. i thought "dpkg -i /directory/*.deb" would do the trick, but many packages fail due to pre-dependency problems
[11:35] <Funnyplay> it doesn't support HEX WEP
[11:35] <Funnyplay> in 8.04 it was no problem
[11:35] <shiMMer> actionparsnip: what next??
[11:35] <Funnyplay> but in 8.10
[11:35] <Funnyplay> its gone
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> KriS|work: try sudp apt-get install ./somefile.deb
[11:35] <Tekno> smart package manager is very good for resolving dependencies, you should try it
[11:35] <ari_stress> hi guys, anyone using lenovo g400?
[11:35] <Funnyplay> i have lenovo
[11:35] <Funnyplay> but
[11:35] <shiMMer> me just acer :(
[11:36] <SlimeyPete> zetyus: hmm, looks like the server's down for some reason
[11:36] <Funnyplay> N500
[11:36] <KriS|work> can't use apt-get :-/
[11:36] <SlimeyPete> zetyus: the link should work; try later
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: what next what?
[11:36] <BlueEraser1> sudo apt-get install bcp build-essential libcegui-mk2-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dev
[11:36] <zetyus> no it's urgent
[11:36] <ari_stress> my lenovo cannot recognize 4GB RAM :( arrrggghhh
[11:36] <BlueEraser1> what do you all think of this code?
[11:36] <zetyus> is there any other link ?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> KriS|work: if you copy the deb into your apt-cache you may be able to
[11:36] <wos> guys the thing wont move past the top border
[11:36] <shiMMer> what must i do to speed up my performance??almost happen is when open firefox
[11:36] <thiebaude> i though 32 bit doesn't reconize 4gb
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: all i can suggest is use less addons
[11:36] <ari_stress> thiebaude: at least it can upto 3GB, right?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: it doesnt really
[11:37] <BlueEraser1> 3.5 for 32 bit
[11:37] <thiebaude> ari_stress: yea, it should
[11:37] <ari_stress> thiebaude: when i put 4GB it just gives me blank screen, the bios doesn't show up at all
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> thiebaude: with PAE it can sort of address more than 4GB (but only up to 3GB per process)
[11:37] <shiMMer> just have image zoom and ubuntu firefox modification
[11:37] <shiMMer> 2 extensions only
[11:37] <BlueEraser1> sudo apt-get install bcp build-essential libcegui-mk2-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dev
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: all i can suggest is renaming youor ~/.mozilla folder and rerunning, this will give you stock / minimal settings
[11:38] <wos> can anyone tell me why i cant move a window past the top of my laptop screen?
[11:38] <BlueEraser1> its ok to run this to update dependences?
[11:38] <thiebaude> ari_stress: dont know what to say about that one.
[11:38] <ari_stress> wos, can we?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:38] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Good morning guys, having a problem with Kopete.
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: how much ram do you have?
[11:38] <SlimeyPete> zetyus: google cache: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:iEE-Xfyc0mQJ:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows+restore+grub+ubuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk [+]
[11:39] <SlimeyPete> woops, remove the "[+]"
[11:39] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> When the "KDE wallet" password thingy comes up it's not recognising my pasword!
[11:39] <shiMMer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:39] <shiMMer> i have 2gb ram
[11:39] <shiMMer> also have swap
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: ok should be ok there
[11:40] <wos> I cant move the %&$%# thing past the top of my screen >:(
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: make sure you are fully updated
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> wos: does alt + drag not allow it?
[11:40] <zetyus> thx SlimeyPete
[11:40] <shiMMer> i check update manager
[11:40] <wos> alt drag moves it but i cant move it past the top
[11:40] <SlimeyPete> wos: yeah, GNOME (or at least Metacity) doesn't allow it IIRC
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: no need just use terminal
[11:40] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip, I have a strange problem when wanting to install via apt-get. I call apt-get from within a function. Script A calls Script B and within Script B this function is called. However once apt-get is called for installing, it just skips the rest of the script due to some wrong return code from apt-get. It comes to "preconfiguring Packages" and then just echo' all the other functions. See line 45 and following of http://rafb.net/
[11:40] <KriS|work> p/2fGBsn33.html
[11:40] <SlimeyPete> it's a bit rubbish tbh - KDE allows it
[11:41] <questnn> I am using VirtualBox on Ubuntu 8.10. The prop version. I get a bootup error everytime saying something like 'unspecified group vboxusers unknown' I have edited the /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh file as per http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ and the /etc/fstab file as per the same page. I can access usb drives all right.
[11:41] <wos> whats iirc?
[11:41] <zetyus> i got ubuntu centos fedora madriva and windows
[11:41] <shiMMer> sudo apt-get upadate/upgrade??
[11:41] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Can I reset my KDE wallet service password on command line?
[11:41] <SlimeyPete> wos: If I Remember Correctly
[11:41] <zetyus> by doing that is it possible to rescue every OS
[11:41] <zetyus>   ? JJJ
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> KriS|work: i see no code
[11:41] <wos> thanks
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Chiselhuk_Plus1: ask in #kubuntu
[11:42] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip, jsut a sec I'll prepare some for you :)
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:42] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> ActionParsnip: As far as I know I have Ubuntu installed, Hardy! How did it become Kubuntu?
[11:42] <shiMMer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:43] <newbe1> Question:  Got a Acer Aspire One  and Ubuntu has a error message using external cd drive
[11:43] <shiMMer> all 0..mine is latest already
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Chiselhuk_Plus1: ubuntu uses gnome, you are talkng about a kde app in ubuntu, kubuntu
[11:43] <zetyus> i got ubuntu centos fedora madriva and windows, >	by doing that is it possible to rescue every OS SlimeyPete ????
[11:43] <Spideroff> how do i create a partition on my hard drive when i install ubuntu ?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> !gparted
[11:43] <questnn> so much noise. questions rarely get answered here :(
[11:44] <abe3k> Hi guys, what is better, a 3GHz core2due or a 2.4 core2quad ? and why?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Spideroff: its part of the install process but if you dont have free space you will need to resize, backup important data before beginning if thats what you intend to do
[11:44] <abe3k> for ubuntu I mean
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: whats it gonna be used for?
[11:44] <zetyus> abe3k: the main one the HEAD
[11:44] <thiebaude> abe3k: i always go for more memory
[11:45] <abe3k> ActionParsnip : alot, browsing ,word processing , graphics , games
[11:45] <shiMMer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/78713/
[11:45] <shiMMer> got that actionparsnip
[11:45] <abe3k> I have 2 Gigs of ddram
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: then you need the gpg key for the medibuntu servers
[11:45] <shiMMer> where to obtain??
[11:46] <shiMMer> dont say need to purchase...
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: id go 3g core2 as not much uses quad core yet, if you wanna future proof slightly id get the quad core
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: its free dude
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: websearch round
[11:46] <vallhalla81> !sabayon
[11:46] <wos> how do i switch out of gnome
[11:46] <shiMMer> that y i luv linux..
[11:46] <thiebaude> shiMMer: type medibuntu into a google search engine
[11:46] <william_> u can obtain it on ubuntu tweak
[11:46] <william_> the terminator
[11:46] <abe3k> ActionParsnip : thanks
[11:47] <snowblink> anyone know why dapper's 2.6.15-53 is a 2.6.15-54 deb?
[11:47] <Spideroff> yes but let's say i have a 250 GB HDD and i insert the ubuntu CD in ... now ... if i want to split the HDD it doesn't let me ... how do i manage to partition the HDD
[11:47] <whileimhere> Hi. I am still using Ubuntu 7.10 with the GNOME desktop. I have not upgraded because as it turns out my wireless card starts having issues with newer versions and I don't like that. Is it possible to upgrade GIMP to the newest version easily or will it really be a pain?
[11:47] <vallhalla81> can anyone tell me what a sabayon user is as i seem to have it in my options switch user shutdown button
[11:48] <BlueEraser1> bash: -zxvf: command not found
[11:48] <cafuego> whileimhere: It will be a pain. What's your wireless chi
[11:48] <cafuego> p?
[11:48] <wos> how do i quit the GNOME desktop anyone?
[11:48] <wos> please n thanks
[11:48] <BlueEraser1> what am i to do with this mess? bash: -zxvf: command not found
[11:48] <cafuego> wos: Logout, or ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:48] <ceil420> BlueEraser1, those are switches for the 'tar' program
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: the command it: tar zxvf <file.
[11:48] <cafuego> BlueEraser1: You're trying to run far?
[11:48] <cafuego> s/f/t/
[11:48] <maxb> ActionParsnip: No < in that case
[11:48] <ardchoille> bluedusk: you forgot the "tar": tar -zxvf
[11:48] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip, http://rafb.net/p/QESL4c80.html
[11:49] <wos> no i meant how do i remove the gnome desktop and switch to another theme
[11:49] <ceil420> wos, with the 'Session' button in the login screen
[11:49] <BlueEraser1> really, is that all?
[11:49] <ceil420> wos, and you mean switch to another Desktop Environment/Window Manager
[11:49] <cafuego> wos: You should be able to pick a different DE or WM from the login screen.
[11:49] <vallhalla81> wos: logout and select in sessions
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: that will unpack the file
[11:49] <william_> is anyone knows the steps to build a simple processor
[11:49] <newbe1> Question:  Got a Acer Aspire One  and Ubuntu has a error message using external cd drive
[11:49] <BlueEraser1> i was putting the filename in, but i have to put tar in the front yeah?
[11:49] <ceil420> william_, no such thing, to my knowledge :o ask Intel or AMD
[11:49] <ardchoille> bluedusk: Go with what ActionParsnip said, you don't need the "-" anymore
[11:49] <whileimhere> cafuego: When I upgrade either by CD or just by a network upgrade the wireless card will cut out all the time and it has issues picking up the wireless signal even if the router is 3 feet away.
[11:50] <cafuego> tar xfz filename.tar.gz
[11:50] <wos> thanks
[11:50] <william_> ahahhaha
[11:50] <william_> no i missing just some steps
[11:50] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip, there you will find 2 scripts, one calling the other. In the output you will see that the function name "afterAPT" is in the middle of installing via apt-get (http://rafb.net/p/QESL4c80.html)
[11:50] <william_> is not that difficult man
[11:50] <cafuego> william_: with x-ray lithography? Do you have an xray machine?
[11:50] <ceil420> william_, well, you need a clean room, millions of tiny transistors, and a VERY steady hand :)
[11:50] <BlueEraser1> ardchoille thanks, i would have left that in
[11:50] <william_> no man in vhdl
[11:51] <Tekno> it's possible to make own cpu but hummm command registers is a little bit difficult part :D
[11:51] <william_> quartus
[11:51]  * cafuego goes to sleep
[11:51] <ardchoille> bluedusk: the recent versions of tar don't need it anymore, the app is getting better :)
[11:51] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip, and this only happens with Ubuntu. On a Debian etch, these scripts work fine
[11:51] <shiMMer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/78713/
[11:51]  * ceil420 goes to work
[11:51] <shiMMer> how to fix that???what key??where to put?
[11:52] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: and I've heard that the most recent version of tar doesn't even need the "z" (.tar.gz) either
[11:52] <Tekno> i havent used z for ages
[11:52] <ardchoille> ah
[11:52] <newbe1> Got a Acer Aspire One  and Ubuntu has a error message using external cd drive won't install
[11:52] <Tekno> tar -xvf only
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> KriS|work: i see your point
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: old skool here :)
[11:53] <whileimhere> How can I uninstall a WINE app?
[11:53] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip, good. Any ideas how to work around? :)
[11:53] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: me too
[11:53] <hateball> whileimhere❅ uninstaller
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> KriS|work: try beforeAPT && runningAPT && afterAPT on the same line rather than seperate lines
[11:54] <whileimhere> hateball: do you mean using the uninstaller that came with the app I installed under wine?
[11:54] <hateball> whileimhere❅ The command uninstaller run in a terminal
[11:54] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip,  k, just a sec
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> whileimhere: uninstaller is the name of the app, launch it from terminal
[11:54] <william_> is anyone lucky installing photoshop cs3 under wine
[11:54] <Buyydee> Hello, is it possible to download music from my friends iPod onto my machine? I heard this feature is not available through iTunes, but can it be done using amarok/banshee/rhythmbox?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | Buyydee
[11:54] <ardchoille> Buyydee: I do that with gtkpod
[11:55] <william_> songbird is nice
[11:55] <william_> to ipod
[11:55] <thegve> Buyydee, huh? I Just wanted to say it was just "plug and do whatever you want it" on my laptop
[11:55] <Symmetria> anyone here know how I can get the pictures off my canon 450d onto linux?
[11:55] <thegve> But if there is a Wiki page, it probably is harder..
[11:55] <thegve> I must have forgotten
[11:56] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip, hmm.. works... at least in these testscripts :) I'll try in the original Scripts.
[11:56] <Buyydee> thegve: that's what I'm wondering... I'm thinking about buying one and heard some weird things, including you can't access the music-part of the ipod as a normal storage device
[11:56] <ardchoille> Symmetria: I have a canon, just plug the usb into the camera and into the computer, it should show up as a storage device and you can copy and paste
[11:56] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip, thanks alot
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> KriS|work: np man, && means 'run next step if previos step passes'
[11:56] <william_> is anyone lucky installing photoshop cs3 under wine
[11:56] <Symmetria> hrm, nope, mine just shows up as a high speed usb device
[11:56] <groken> is it possible to use a softraid 5 or striped volume as your boot volume?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !winedb | william_
[11:57] <ardchoille> KriS|work: more about that "&&" here: http://ardchoille.nfshost.com/Linux/CondExe
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> william_: theres the winedb which will tell you if its good or bad, you may want to look at gimp
[11:57] <bazhang> !appdb
[11:57] <william_> yes gimp is nice but im a photoshop guy
[11:57] <jtravnick> I have two harddrives one with upuntu the other with fedora I want to wipe the fedora one and put windows on it is there anything i should be worred about with the ubuntu drive?
[11:57] <FearMoth> My DVD-ROM drive seems to give me errors when it's reading from the outer edge of CD/DVD's, but it seems I can still boot up smaller distros like Knoppix. Is it possible for me to boot from Knoppix and install Ubuntu from an ISO on my USB thumb drive? My computer does not have the option to boot from USB.
[11:57] <KriS|work> Thanks ardchoille
[11:58] <ardchoille> yw
[11:58] <iiro> 9999
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> jtravnick: nope, just make sure you wipe the right one when you install windows. you may have to play with grub to setup the dual boot properly
[11:58] <BlueEraser1>  Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:58] <BlueEraser1> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:58] <BlueEraser1> tar: Child returned status 2
[11:58] <BlueEraser1> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:58] <BlueEraser1> the file is on desktop, do i need to do anything to direct the terminal there?
[11:58] <FloodBot3> BlueEraser1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> !usb | FearMoth
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: make sure you are in the same directory as the tar.gz file and use tab to complete its name
[11:59] <joshly> hey
[12:00] <jtravnick> ActionParsnip, k thanks I know windows realy should have been installed first but im backwards. should I unplug the ubuntu drive when I install on the other drive?
[12:00] <joshly> when i boot into ubuntu cd i get some error like "ubuntu ata"
[12:00] <Maveas> Okay. I'm total lost with this Windows Server connection thing. The company I'm at have a windows server which the users can login to from a standard windows machine, but how do I connect to this windows server from a ubuntu? :S
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> jtravnick: you could, thatd be a good safe guard
[12:00] <BlueEraser1> ActionParsnip: if the tarball is on desktop, is there something extra i need to type to have the terminal find the file (beyond the file name)?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> BlueEraser1: cd ~/Desktop; tar zxvf *.tar.gz
[12:01] <Maveas> They says it's an exchange server, but isn't that a mail server? :S
[12:01] <Maveas> How can they logon to that from their desktop?
[12:02] <joshly> If i have some ATA error thing how do i fix?
[12:02] <shiMMer> gpg key fixed..now i faced with slow performance
[12:02] <jtravnick> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> joshly: id suggest fsck from live cd once you unmount the partition(s)
[12:02] <joshly> how?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> joshly: boot to live cd, fire up terminal and check stuff
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> !fsck
[12:03] <gnusar> i am having trouble running my ATI with fglrx, can you help me finding out the right BUSID? nopaste: http://rafb.net/p/Ws7jH312.html
[12:03] <joshly> oh no it wont let me boot into cd
[12:03] <wcdl> blueman
[12:04] <joshly> right when i click use live disc
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> joshly: change bios to boot cd first
[12:04] <shiMMer> how to remove black frame when i unminimize/minimize firefox and other application?
[12:04] <joshly> i did f12
[12:04] <wcdl> is anyone knows if blueman working on ubuntu 8.10?
[12:04] <joshly> would it make a diffrent?
[12:05] <saatul_ihsan> haloo all
[12:05] <shiMMer> how to remove black frame when i unminimize/minimize firefox and other application?
[12:05] <saatul_ihsan> new bee my i joint
[12:05] <Funnyplay> UBUNTU 8.10 is BAD if you compare it to 8.04
[12:05] <bazhang> caps Funnyplay
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> joshly: doesnt matter as long as the cd boots before the internal drive
[12:05] <wcdl> in what aspect? funnyplay
[12:05] <Funnyplay> ok
[12:05] <Funnyplay> ah
[12:05] <Funnyplay> i mean
[12:05] <saatul_ihsan> we are from indoseia use ubuntu for basic of aour distro
[12:05] <joshly> it did but yet didnt work
[12:05] <Funnyplay> wep support
[12:05] <saatul_ihsan> we use blankon
[12:05] <dangit> eversince the update to intrepid, i have noticed an odd bug with evolution -> it sometimes says there is one new mail in the inbox when there is in fact, not a new mail. restarting evolution will fix this
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: i disagree, millions would agree with you and millions would disagree
[12:06] <Funnyplay> it doesn't support hex wep
[12:06] <shiMMer> saatul ihsan: hi2
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: hex wep is fine here
[12:06] <Funnyplay> so i cant connect to my network
[12:06] <Funnyplay> not on 8.20
[12:06] <Funnyplay> 10
[12:06] <shiMMer> how to remove black frame when i unminimize/minimize firefox and other application?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: but i manually edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: so yes it does
[12:06] <Funnyplay> i love using ubuntu
[12:06] <joshly> well i gtg thanks guys
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: just your app isnt letting you apply it
[12:06] <Funnyplay> but
[12:06] <Funnyplay> so how do  I apply hex?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: tried wifi-radar?
[12:07] <wcdl> is blueman working in 8.10?
[12:07] <gnusar> i am having trouble running my ATI with fglrx, can you help me finding out the right BUSID? nopaste: http://rafb.net/p/Ws7jH312.html
[12:07] <gnusar> anyone?
[12:07] <wcdl> anyone?
[12:07] <shiMMer> ubuntu 8.10 is not good.ubuntu is not good
[12:07] <Tekno> debian is good
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: if you edit that file, no gui apps will be able to configure your networking
[12:08] <wcdl> is blueman working in 8.10? \\best ubuntu bluetooth app
[12:08] <shiMMer> i think user not should use ubuntu before is really complete fully
[12:08] <voicu> hi, how do i remove a module on intrepid? /etc/modules and /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist don't work
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: its always changing
[12:09] <administrator> ubuntu-tr
[12:09] <Funnyplay> i cant install other things
[12:09] <shiMMer> yeah but almost and many2 people faced with problem using it
[12:09] <Funnyplay> because i have no connection :D
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: you can use the apps on your install CD :D
[12:10] <administrator> irc.freenode.org
[12:10] <Funnyplay> i am running live cd currently
[12:10] <tdreyer1> shiMMer: how is that different than any other os?
[12:10] <CaMason> I've had to install a slightly outdated package due to a bug, but ubuntu now keeps prompting me to update it. Is there a way to temporarily disable that?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Funnyplay: then your cd is a repo and you can install apps using apt-get
[12:11] <Funnyplay> ok then
[12:11] <KillGuta> hello all
[12:11] <shiMMer> example is microsoft windows..windows xp just make service pack 1-4 i think but ubuntu is many *service pacK*..it not complete
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: the service pack mentality is similar to the distro upgrade
[12:12] <chiliblue> my ubuntu install isn't giving my account sudo all of a sudden? any ideas
[12:12] <C0p3rn1c> how safe is it to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: in between, individual apps are updated on the repo which then update to your system
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | C0p3rn1c
[12:13] <shiMMer> where and when ubuntu distro will stop(fully and completely stable)???
[12:13] <voicu> chiliblue: did you change the owner or permissions on /etc/sudoers?
[12:13] <KillGuta> how do I acces the hard drive in terminal from a Lice CD?
[12:13] <wcdl> is very safe
[12:13] <KillGuta> *Live
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> C0p3rn1c: id run a backup just incase it goes crazy
[12:13] <shiMMer> actionparsnip:::u are bot?
[12:13] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip: ok :)
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: it wont as hardwrae will always change
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: no im a dude with dead time on his hands
[12:13] <wcdl> i just create a partition and leave another to ubuntu
[12:14] <Lolineko> Hello
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> KillGuta: you need to mount it
[12:14] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip: Yeah, it failed already on 1 system of mine
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> !mount | KillGuta
[12:14] <shiMMer> owh...can i make suggestion for ubuntu/linux??
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> C0p3rn1c: i'd do the server update method using cli
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: its pointles stelling me, im just a user like you
[12:14] <shiMMer> owh...i c...
[12:15] <C0p3rn1c> ActionParsnip: aha yeah then you can interveen when something goes wrong
[12:16] <shiMMer> how much ram ubuntu need to run smoothly with none visual effect?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: linux will never get "finished" as it is always looking to improve and the teams making the apps you use are always improving their stuff too. as new developments in coding and other such stuff come out it is used and linux changes again, there will never be a day when linux rests as long as IT moves forward
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: 512mb is my reccommendation
[12:16] <Lolineko> Trying to get postgresql working the way we want with PAM. Then when we try to connect as root or the postgres user with pam but we get the "FATAL: PAM authentication failed for user "postgres"". How do I add passwords for the users?
[12:16] <wcdl> and i thank them for that <ActionParsnip>
[12:16] <bullgard4> What is the function of the /etc/bash.bashrc file? "# System-wide .bashrc file for interactive bash(1) shells." What file is effective for my account: /etc/bash.bashrc or ~/.bashrc?
[12:16] <voicu> can anyone tell me how to remove a module (i.e. make it not load or delete it) in (k)ubuntu intrepid? /etc/modules and /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist don't seem to work
[12:16] <zetheroo1> I keep having this issue with the Ubuntu forums ... I log in and it shows that I am logged in but as soon as I want to post anything it acts like I am not logged in
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> wcdl: oh only LOADS :D
[12:17] <shiMMer> i have 2gb..it four times than ur suggestion..but i still face with slow performance
[12:17] <zetheroo1> I have tried to log in on several browsers and it does the same thing with them all
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: ~/.basrc is usual
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo1: i'd email the admins
[12:17] <shiMMer> y n how this happened??i just open konversation n firefox..it not enough for 2gb of ram??
[12:17] <zetheroo1> ActionParsnip: so you never experience that?
[12:18] <AzizLight> is there a way to get the pbcopy/pbpaste commands from os x to ubuntu?
[12:19] <candan> i need avermedia a700 driver for ubuntu 8,10?
[12:19] <shiMMer> im bored to see my firefox takes long times to unminimize..
[12:19] <candan> help plz
[12:19] <shiMMer> im bored to see my firefox takes long times to unminimize..how to fix???
[12:19] <KriS|work> ActionParsnip, thanks again. Works perfectly ;) Just as I want it to now.
[12:19] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I believe that your answer is wrong.
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> KriS|work: awesome man :)
[12:20] <chiliblue> Do you set a proper root password during ubuntu install
[12:20] <C0p3rn1c> candan: did you check on http://linuxtv.org ?
[12:20] <chiliblue> only I am no longer able to sudo in for some odd reason
[12:20] <shiMMer> actionparsnip::im bored to see my firefox takes long times to unminimize..how to fix???
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: you can change it with source ~/.bashrc
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: not sure at all, does opera run any better?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: actually
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> shimmer: try this
[12:21] <voicu> bullgard4: ~/.bashrc is the file executed when a shell starts if you are that user, /etc/.bashrc is for all users
[12:21] <wcdl> mplayer is giving me an error when i try to open videos
[12:21] <shiMMer> try opera??
[12:21] <hov> the ip of my server changed and ssh is reporting Add correct host key
[12:21] <candan> yes
[12:21] <wcdl> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[12:21] <hov> how do i do that?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0; mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_older; firefox-3.0 &
[12:21] <wcdl> how to fix it
[12:22] <shiMMer> i try to see the result
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> wcdl: you need to edit mplayer settings
[12:22] <bullgard4> voicu: And what is the function of the file /etc/bash.bashrc?
[12:22] <wcdl> in what section?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: that completely removes all of firefox and deps and then redownloads a fresh copy and installs it
[12:23] <voicu> bullgard4: i'm not sure but i guess it creates some environment variables needed for the shell script
[12:24] <wcdl> which settings <ActionParsnip>
[12:24] <bullgard4> voicu: hm
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> wcdl: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/mplayer-error-openinginitializing-the-selected-videoout-vo-device-351937/
[12:26] <voicu> bullgard4: on my system it just processes some info and outputs that message when  you log in in a console terminal
[12:26] <DerKater> Help!
[12:26] <voicu> bullgard4: press ctrl+alt+F1, log in and you should see it. ctrl+alt+F7 to go back to gui
[12:27] <DerKater> Hello everybody!
[12:27] <shiMMer> ActionParsnip::still having problem with slow unminimize/minimize.
[12:27] <DerKater> Basically I need help! lol
[12:27] <whileimhere> Hi. Anyone have a suggestion for alternatives to Digikam or F-Spot. I dont really like either.
[12:27] <bullgard4> voicu: I have done Ctrl+Alt+F1 half an hour ago. I could not see anything.
[12:27] <hypnodok> is it possible to umount and resize the home partition while running ubuntu?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: then ive no idea, you have a shiny new firefox install with a fresh stock profile
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: try installing opera
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> !opera | shiMMer
[12:28] <voicu> bullgard4: ctrl+alt+f2 or f3,4,5,6?
[12:30] <voicu> sorry for repeating but maybe somebody can help: how do i disable or delete a kernel module in intrepid (8.10)
[12:30] <voicu> ?
[12:30] <shiMMer> i dont think firefox is my problem but my ubuntu.i set visual effect=none.ram=2gb,have swap, but all window i open,it slow to mnimize/unminimize
[12:30] <DerKater> Guys has anyone encountered the following problem : I boot from cd, get the graphical menu, I can select any F-keys, I can press up and down to select the menu item, I can even close F-key windows using the enter key, BUT I can't use any of the menu's items!! Pressing enter while the menu item of interest (ie: install) simply does nothing!!!
[12:30] <DerKater> any help would be greatly appreciated
[12:31] <shiMMer> i dont think firefox is my problem but my ubuntu.i set visual effect=none.ram=2gb,have swap, but all window i open,it slow to mnimize/unminimize..any idea??
[12:31] <Guest249> Anyone good with partition table recoveries?
[12:31] <voicu> derkater: does enter work in any other contexts?
[12:31] <bullgard4> voicu: modprobe -r
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: is it the same with all apps?
[12:31] <voicu> bullgarde4: i need something permanent
[12:31] <shiMMer> yes..
[12:31] <DerKater> voicu: thanks for answering, the enter button works in any F-key submenu
[12:32] <shiMMer> all application i opened is slow to minimize/unminimize.
[12:32] <DerKater> voicu: I'm running the cd within VMWare too
[12:32] <bullgard4> voicu: Permanent would be to delete the driver file.
[12:32] <voicu> bullgard4: where would that be in?
[12:32] <shiMMer> also i can see the black frame followed when to minimize window.i set my visual effect=none already
[12:32] <voicu> derkater: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[12:33] <Guest249> My Laptop has an SD slot that I keep a 2gb SD card in
[12:33] <bullgard4> voicu: Try to find it by using the command 'locate <modname>.ko'.
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: does it do it in fluxbox?
[12:33] <Guest249> the partition table is now mysteriously gone on it
[12:33] <DerKater> voicu: its the latest Ubuntu 8.10 Server edition
[12:33] <Guest249> and i'd really like to get at least 1 file off it
[12:34] <chiliblue> I need help, my mouse has suddenly stopped working and I can't get root, is there any way to navigate around ubuntu desktop with keyboard only
[12:34] <shiMMer> fluxbox??what is it?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: its a different window manager, instead of metacity
[12:35] <Fougner> Guest249, try searching for "memory card dump" or something =)
[12:35] <shiMMer> how to fix my problem?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: ten log off, change session type to fluxbox and log on
[12:36] <shiMMer> i try now
[12:36] <Guest249> Fougner: Ok, for why?
[12:37] <Guest249> Fougner: I can dd the 'disk' but I want to recover the partition table
[12:37] <DerKater> voicu?
[12:37] <Fougner> ah, well
[12:37] <Tyrath> ok, I all know you are going to hate me for asking a question about integrating a microsoft product in ubuntu, but still would anyone know how to get lifeCam vx-3000 working in intrepid ibex. Please don't waste my time by giving me the it's a microsoft product so don't expect it to work in ubuntu, because there's evidence to suggest it does work - just no effective instructions
[12:37] <Fougner> Guest249, looked in fdisk ?
[12:37] <Guest249> Fougner: shows no partitions
[12:37] <voicu> derkater:well i'm not sure what could do that
[12:38] <Guest249> What are the odds just creating a 'new' partition will work
[12:38] <voicu> derkater: virtual machines don't always work right
[12:38] <Guest249> assuming I get the same boundary?
[12:38] <Tyrath> !lifecam
[12:38] <voicu> derkater: try a different image, for example the live cd instead of the server one, the dvd instead of the cd one
[12:39] <DerKater> voicu: ok thx, I'm going to try something else... I saw an option in the install menu saying Virtual Machine or something
[12:39] <Tyrath> does anyone use skype here?
[12:39] <DerKater> voicu: also, I can access the non-graphical installer, how does it work?
[12:39] <Fougner> Guest249, you could manually setup the partition table with the same settings as before
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !skype | Tyrath
[12:39] <voicu> derkater: it works similarly to the graphical one but it's in text mode
[12:39] <Fougner> Guest249, just skip mkfs and you'll be fine I guess
[12:40] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help but that's not my problem
[12:40] <JuJuBee> I cannot get my eth0 to get an IP address.  System settings shows it has one, but ifconfig does not.
[12:40] <voicu> derkater: i like the text one better because it's faster, GUIs on cds are very slow
[12:40] <DerKater> voicu: well i get "boot:" what do I type?
[12:40] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I already have it installed and working, just trying to get the webcam working
[12:40] <Guest249> Fougner: That's what I thought
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: if you run lsusb you will get an identifier you can websearch for
[12:40] <voicu> derkater: press enter
[12:40] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I'll try that thanks
[12:40] <nat1> i cant mount my harddrive recently because i messed with my windows partinar how do i fix this
[12:41] <nat1> grub gives me error 22
[12:41] <DerKater> voicu: ok now I get invalid or corrupt kernel image... :)    I think I just need to redownload the image
[12:41] <LateralLink> JuJuBee i'm assuming your doing dhcp?
[12:41] <Fougner> Guest249, just to be sure, try to dump the memorycard before.. so you have a backup of it
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> nat1: what does that error mean?
[12:41] <shiMMer> ActionParsnip::yeah...i like this..i mean fluxbox..
[12:41] <JuJuBee> Anybody help me with my eth0 ip address?
[12:41] <DerKater> voicu: the graphical version did not show me that error message
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: yeah its slick and quick
[12:41] <voicu> derkater: hehe, that would be a start
[12:41] <Guest249> Fougner: Already did a dd of it to an image file
[12:41] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: do i copy the whole line?
[12:41] <Guest249> and if I lose everything, so be it...
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: startup is managed by ~/.fluxbox/startup
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: just the hex will do
[12:42] <voicu> derkater: try downloading from a torrent, you'll get the file checked automatically like this
[12:42] <nat1> error 22 means it cant find the partion
[12:42] <voicu> derkater: you'll know that is not the problem at least
[12:42] <shiMMer> what???i dont understand..my english is bad..detail please ActionParsnip
[12:42] <DerKater> voicu: not a bad idea is there a torrent file on ubuntu.com or do I have to search on piratebay?
[12:42] <DerKater> voicu: thank you so much for your help :)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> nat1: then change your menu.lst to point to the correct partition number
[12:43] <voicu> derkater: they provide the torrent+tracker :)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> !grub | nat1
[12:43] <jackli> who knows iTALC?
[12:43] <nat1> i dont know where the partion is at
[12:43] <voicu> derkater: there should be an option somewhere
[12:43] <nat1> fstab should show it right
[12:43] <nat1> ?
[12:43] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: hex being the ID?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: gnome has a weird way of adding startup items, in fluxbox you type the command you want to run in ~/.fluxbox/startup
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: yep
[12:43] <voicu> nat1: what does ls /dev/sd* give?
[12:44] <shiMMer> ~/.fluxbox/startup
[12:44] <Tyrath> !gspca
[12:44] <shiMMer> ~/.fluxbox/startup
[12:44] <shiMMer> bash: /home/zer0/.fluxbox/startup: Permission denied
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: yes, thats the startup script, you can add apps to that lot and your apps will run at logon
[12:44] <DerKater> voicu: got it! and its even faster than the other downloads
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: gedit ~/.fluxbox/startup
[12:44] <voicu> derkater: if it's recent enough yeah
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: i'm just filling you in a bit
[12:45] <shiMMer> paste to where????
[12:45] <shiMMer> which part??
[12:45] <DerKater> voicu: basically i'm installing ubuntu so I can start a vmware in it to install windows small business server inside linux
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: im just telling you how to autostart apps
[12:46] <voicu> derkater: i figured :), good luck, i GTG-rebooting
[12:46] <AutoMatriX> hi folks ... is ther a way to find out my IP in command-line ?
[12:46] <JuJuBee> Can someone please help me  with ip address on eth0?
[12:46] <DerKater> voicu: that way I will be able to VNC into linux and always be able to see the damn server console as if I was in front of it. Because you know SBS always disconnects you when you change something and then you have to ask someone to get on the server and click somewhere
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> AutoMatriX: your machines ip can be gained with ifconfig
[12:46] <DerKater> voicu ok thanks alot voicu
[12:46] <shiMMer> i can set it after i choose different session right?
[12:47] <JuJuBee> cannot communicate with server on eth0.  ifconfig eth0 shows no IP address, but system settings does.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: sure, its just a text file
[12:47] <wcdl> ifconfig
[12:47] <nat1> when ever i try and mount the partion i get the unable to mount "failed to read last sector
 ifconfig
[12:47] <AutoMatriX> ActionParsnip, that sonly the lan address ... I'd like to have the 'external' IP
[12:47] <shiMMer> owh...basically,i likke this style..long time i looking for this..
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> nat1: id fsck the partitions(s)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> AutoMatriX: oh, you didnt specify that, gimme a sec
[12:48] <AutoMatriX> tx, ActionParsnip
[12:49] <nat1> i dont understand actionparsnip
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> AutoMatriX: wget http://checkip.dyndns.org/ && awk '/:/ {print $6}' index.html
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> nat1: sounds like your partitions arent healthy, boot to live cd so you can chek em
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | nat1
:im blank now..how to open my partition???
[12:49] <AutoMatriX> ActionParsnip, thanks so much
[12:50] <thorsten_> www.ultimateedition.info
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: right click desktop and you can launch nautilus
[12:50] <thorsten_> Best ubuntu
[12:50] <bullgard4> What bash init scripts are there in Ubuntu? What is the set of bash init scrip filenames?
[12:50] <bullgard4> What bash init scripts are there in Ubuntu? What is the set of bash init script filenames?
[12:50] <shiMMer> nautilus..that command is to super user..just i thinking..
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> shiMMer: nautilus is a file browser
[12:50] <wcdl> is there any app to ubuntu as the papaya for mac os x
[12:50] <thorsten_> sudo nautilus, then you can change all
[12:51] <questnn> When I boot up, right after Booting up... at the very top, long before Reading files needed to boot I get the error udevd[1040] lookup_group unspecified users vboxusers unknown, and my usplash theme is not displayed and I have to read all those other boot up messages. What is wrong?
[12:51] <shiMMer> i use "nautilus" command to paste theme in file system directory before
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> thorsten_: use gksudo nautilus, sudo nautilus is not advised
[12:52] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: Where have you gone? :(
[12:52] <ikonia> sad_ubuntite: huh ?
[12:53] <thorsten_> I always used it, but thanks i try gksudo
[12:53] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: Can I interrupt you for a support request? I am really stuck with this for hours now.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> thorsten_: it sets up the environment properly, sudo with gui apps can ruin permissions and ownerships
[12:53] <ikonia> sad_ubuntite if you ask the channel, I'm sure they will be able to help
[12:54] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: When I boot up, right after Booting up... at the very top, long before Reading files needed to boot I get the error udevd[1040] lookup_group unspecified users vboxusers unknown, and my usplash theme is not displayed and I have to read all those other boot up messages. What is wrong?
[12:54] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: No one does.
[12:54] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: This site: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ had asked me to do two things edit mountdevsubfs.sh and fstab. I had also edited the udev-40 file to get usb to work. Now I removed the edits from all three files and restored them to their original version. Still the udev error appears at bootup. Here are the files as they are now, removed all the edits: http://pastebin.com/m743f023b, http://pastebin.com/m326f49e8, http://pastebin.com/m1d66caeb.
[12:54] <ikonia> sad_ubuntite well it looks like vbox has a group setup caled vboxusers, which doesn't exist so udev can't assign permissions
[12:54] <thorsten_> With virtual Box I wracked the system.
[12:55] <thorsten_> On my Pc, of course
[12:55] <gasmasq> Hello
[12:55] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: The group exists I can see it under 'Users and groups' And me and root are members of it.
[12:55] <gasmasq> When someone gets a sec, I need a bit of help
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> !ask | gasmasq
[12:56] <zetheroo1> how do I boot into console?
[12:57] <ikonia> sad_ubuntite: can you please do "grep vbox /etc/group" please
[12:57] <ikonia> zetheroo1: use the grub menu that ssays "recovery mode2
[12:57] <zetheroo1> ok
[12:57] <zetheroo1> I am going to leave it in console overnight
[12:57] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: vboxusers:x:126:king,root
[12:58] <gasmasq> I installed Ubuntu 7.01 on my PPC iBook G4 from the LiveCD (which I'm using now). When I try to boot from the installation, my screen whites out. This was a problem when booting from the LiveCD, which was fixed by booting with: live video=ofonly . I do not know how to emulate this action when I'm booting from my harddrive.
[12:58] <ikonia> sad_ubuntite that looks fine, like it should work
[12:58] <Roadbuster> Hello, I'm having a bit of trouble with Ubuntu 8.10. When I boot, it will lag on the splash screen, and wont move unless I hold down a key. It does it both while it's doing the 'Knight Rider' thing (Going back and forth) and while it's building the bar. Also, after it finally gets off that, the screen will go blank with a blinking cursor, and I have to hit a key to get it to go further again. Once it finally boots, it's completely fine,
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> gasmasq: add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:59] <gasmasq> ActionParsnip: how? I'm a huge noob.
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> gasmasq: just get access to the file somehow (even from live cd) and edit the file
[13:00] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: What about the error message: udevd[1040] lookup_group unspecified users vboxusers unknown. I get at every bootup, even after I have restored those three files to their original version, when they didn't have the edits proposed by vbox to get usb to work. That error doesn't let the usplash theme to show and everytime I have to watch each of the file as it gets loaded during bootup.
[13:00] <ikonia> sad_ubuntite ahhhh users, not group
[13:00] <gasmasq> ActionParsnip: I can edit the file from the LiveCD, but where should I put in the command?
[13:01] <ikonia> sad_ubuntite it's looking at a user called vboxusers does that user existr
[13:01] <ikonia> sad_ubuntite: I miss-read
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> gasmasq: do you have an installed ubuntu system?
[13:01] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: That is what I thought first of all but the user vboxusers doesn't exist "users and groups' just lists two users me and root. Is there a text file I should check?
[13:02] <gasmasq> ActionParsnip: yes, I'm mounting the file system right now to access the file
[13:02] <bazhang> sad_ubuntite, you should address the channel; if someone knows they will answer
[13:02] <ikonia> sad_ubuntite create a user called vboxusers (you can delete it later) just to see if the error goes away
[13:02] <sad_ubuntite> bazhang: I have been doing that for three for days now.
[13:02] <bazhang> sad_ubuntite, in the meantime you should check the forums
[13:02] <SSgtSpoon> Morning everyone. How was y'all's weekend?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> gasmasq: ok then open /boot/grub/menu.list and add the boot option to each kernel
[13:02] <sad_ubuntite> ikonia: Nice idea.
[13:02] <rww> ActionParsnip: that's not the Debian/Ubuntu way of doing it.
[13:02] <sad_ubuntite> bazhang: Checked the forums, asked vbox, searched google, did all :(
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | gasmasq
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> rww: what isnt?
[13:03] <rww> ActionParsnip: although, never mind, gasmasq can't run update-grub
[13:03] <rww> ActionParsnip: usually you'd put it in the commented options, not the automagically-generated section...
[13:03] <gasmasq> ActionParsnip: I don't have a grub folder in my boot folder
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> rww: im not aware of a "debian way". i just suggest what makes it work
 : if are u trying to add permition  to your vbox user go to users and groups select your username and properties, and under 'vboxusers' tick your username and done
[13:04] <bjbum> does anyone know if it's possible to install windows onto a separate (bootable) partition using ubuntu and virtualbox? not sure what the limitations are in this process >.<
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> gasmasq: then you need to find it
[13:05] <gasmasq> ActionParsnip: Is bootstrap something different than grub? Like I said, I'm on 7.01
[13:05] <Roadbuster> Hello, I'm having a bit of trouble with Ubuntu 8.10. When I boot, it will lag on the splash screen, and wont move unless I hold down a key. It does it both while it's doing the 'Knight Rider' thing (Going back and forth) and while it's building the bar. Also, after it finally gets off that, the screen will go blank with a blinking cursor, and I have to hit a key to get it to go further again. Once it finally boots, it's completely fine,
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> gasmasq: then you may need options there, im unknowldgable of bootstrap
[13:06] <SlimHippo> Cripes, it's busy in here. I'll keep quiet until things settle down.
[13:06] <rww> SlimHIppo: this is relatively quiet
[13:06] <SlimHIppo> rww: yeep!
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Roadbuster: try removeing the quiet option from boot option so you can watch the boot
[13:07] <rww> Roadbuster: remove the splash option while you're at it
[13:07] <questnn> ikonia: I created a new user 'vboxusers' and rebooted still the error appears. Excuse me for not reporting the error accurately it is 'udevd[1040] lookup_group specified group 'vboxusers' unknown'. So 'group' it is.
[13:07] <SlimHIppo> rww: I want to ask a question about multiple monitors but feel a bit silly about it. I've googled it tons and found lots of info but resolution to the problem.
[13:07] <Roadbuster> Is that like turning the echo on in Windows (sorry, still a bit new)
[13:07] <SlimHIppo> I'm trying to get dual monitors working with a Radeon 9800 card under Ubuntu. So far both monitors are displaying the same screen but I can't find any (working) tools to configure what is displayed on each one. I just want the secondary to extend the primary, with an option of displaying a different workspace. *eep* it's busy right now.
[13:07] <sivaji_> please someone help me this is my problem http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilugc-mirror/browse_thread/thread/419e61aea4999160#
[13:07]  * SlimHIppo shrinks.
[13:07] <wcdl>  <sad_ubuntite> : if are u trying to add permission  to your vbox user go to users and groups select your username and properties, and than 'vboxusers' properties tick your username and done
[13:08] <ikonia> questnn I'll have to read through that guide you showed me as I only glanced thruogh it to see what's actually happening
[13:08] <rww> Roadbuster: removing quiet will make the bootup process generate a bunch more messages. Removing splash will make it just show text instead of the bouncy progressbar thing
[13:08] <questnn> SlimHIppo: Screens and resolutions.
[13:08] <Roadbuster> Nww: Thanks, I'll try that and see what exactly is hanging.
[13:08] <questnn> ikonia: The guide doesn't say much ubuntu specific. Barely ten lines. What is important is that if you looked at those pastebin files I have reverted back to the original versions with no edits suggested by vbox. And yet the error appears.
[13:09] <rww> i need to change my name to "Rww" or something. people keep thinking my r is an n :P
[13:09] <ikonia> questnn: I did look through the pastebin files, and looking at them they should work, hence why I want to read the guide
[13:09] <SlimHIppo> questnn: It's not working right now. IJust says 'unknown'
[13:09] <questnn> SlimHIppo: That is where my knowledge ends.
[13:10] <rww> SlimHIppo: have you looked into xrandr?
[13:10] <rww> !xrandr | SlimHIppo
[13:10] <questnn> ikonia: I have been talking with an experienced user (maybe developer) erstazi, at #vbox for hours. He couldn't figure it out. He says it is pretty much harmless. I do not think he fully understands why it is caused though.
[13:10] <ikonia> I agree it's harmless as worst case senario a udev device would be created with the wrong permissions
[13:11] <ikonia> questnn: I just can't see why you'd get that error, as I saiy I'll have to go through that guide and the udev rules
[13:11] <SlimHIppo> rww: *reads*
[13:11] <rww> SlimHIppo: I don't understand it much, but I've heard of other people getting dual monitors working that way
[13:12] <SlimHIppo> rww - I'll give it a go
[13:13] <rww> Roadbuster: incidentally, if you want to remove those options permanently, issue gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove them from there (be sure to read the comments in that file)
[13:13] <DB42> my /media list doesn't seem to be in sync and show all the HD's i have on my comp, how do i fix this ?
[13:14] <questnn> ikonia: I hope you got this I 'removed' that edit from 40-basic-* udev file, and fstab and mountdevsubfs.sh and still it appears.
[13:14] <rww> !fstab | DB42: add any that are missing to fstab
[13:14] <ikonia> questnn: yes, I noticed you'd commented them out
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> DB42: sudo mount -a
[13:14] <sergeykish_> Hello. I installed pidgin-festivale (Ubuntu 8.10 x86), activated plugin, but nothing happens. Then I tested festival - $ echo 'hello' | festival --tts and it's works good. Does anybody get same problem? How can I fix it?
[13:14] <DB42> ActionParsnip, : apperntly /etc/fstab isn't in sync as well
[13:14] <DB42> like i see "sdd and sdd1" in dmesg, but i dont have /dev/sdd1
[13:15] <DB42> actually i have it, but i can't mount it
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> DB42: then i'd read the fstab guide and modify it
[13:16] <DB42> can i do something like rsync, but with scp ? i.e. copy only new/different files, not everything ?
[13:16] <rww> DB42: you should be able to do rsync over ssh
[13:16] <Roadbuster> Nww: A question, for some reason there are two Ubuntu 8.10s (and two recovery consoles and then Windows) in my GRUB. So theoretically, I can permanently edit one and if it's screwed up I can use the other to boot into the system, right?
[13:16] <DB42> i'll try
[13:17] <rww> Roadbuster: Yeah. Removing quiet and splash isn't gonna screw anything up, though...
[13:17] <sinbox> gethostbyname error    << on 7.10     <<  any idea why this might be?
[13:18] <Roadbuster> nww: Well, I'm more worried about me accidentally hitting something else and not even realizing it, lol.
[13:18] <rww> DB42: I forget how to do rsync over SSH (and the man page is way too long), but I'd bet there's tons of results for it on your favorite search engine
[13:18] <DB42> yeah
[13:18] <questnn> How do I make a playlist in vlc and save it?
[13:18] <rww> Roadbuster: lol
[13:20] <DB42> rww: why does rsync tell me skipping dir?
[13:20]  * NetM is away: I'm busy
[13:20] <Pici> !away > netm
[13:20] <rww> Roadbuster: The "correct" way of doing it would be to edit the place where it appears that isn't within the automagic boot stanza section (I think it's in the defoptions line? not sure, 'cause I removed both of them), then run update-grub
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> questnn: is it a playlist of mp3s?
[13:20] <rww> DB42: dunno, I haven't used it in months
[13:21] <questnn> ActionParsnip: .ape(S). Does it make a difference?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> questnn: not really, you can create an m3u file of the names of the files and put it in the same directory as the files, or you can use absolute paths
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> questnn: you dont need an app
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> questnn: you can even use: dir *.ape > ./playlist.m3u
[13:22] <questnn> ActionParsnip: I meant my audio files are in .ape format
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> questnn: yeah, thats fine
[13:23] <Roadbuster> nww: Yeah, that's what I did, now to see if it works, thanks again.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> questnn: as long as the m3u is in the same folder as the files it points to it will work with the dir command
[13:24] <questnn> ActionParsnip: The .m3u worked! Thanks! I thought vlc would have an option of saving its play-list as a file.
[13:24] <rww> questnn: it probably does, but that way is easier
[13:24] <SyntaxRebel> exit
[13:24] <ql> how do you fix a laptop screen that dims after it resumes from screen sleep (all black)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> way easier, and people use playlist making apps, some even charge too. hilarious
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> works in windows too
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> allthough it's dir *.apr /b > playlist.m3u
[13:26] <questnn> I disconnected.
[13:26] <Tyrath> can anyone translate what the problem is here: http://pastebin.ca/1272314 ?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> questnn: np man, simple isnt it
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> questnn: works in windows too:  dir *.ape /b > playlist.m3u
[13:27] <questnn> ActionParsnip: What is the /b for?
[13:27] <CaMason> I've had to install a slightly outdated package due to a bug, but ubuntu now keeps prompting me to update it. Is there a way to temporarily disable that?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> questnn: makes it not show all the date created and stuff, just outputs the filename on its own
[13:27] <rww> questnn: Bare format. ie, it strips out stuff like file sizes
[13:28] <thegve> In a multi-xscreen setup, is there a way to "kick" running applications to  another x screen?
[13:28] <rww> CaMason: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Introduction%20to%20Holding%20Packages
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> questnn: some folks acually make and charge for apps that do that in windows, its hilarious
[13:28] <CaMason> thanks rww
[13:29] <rww> ActionParsnip: well, some people actually make and charge for operating systems...
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> indeed but its a single line command for free or a pretty gui for 10 quid
[13:31] <questnn> ActionParsnip: charge! Oh. I am sure they don't last in business.
[13:31] <rww> ActionParsnip: true. I guess a more apt description would be those "system cleaner" utilities for OS X...
[13:31] <rww> questnn: they do. Lots of people easily parted from their money
[13:31] <Chousuke> Repair permissions voodoo \o/
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> rww: ive not used mac much
[13:32] <mellum> Hi. I want to run a live system from an USB stick on a laptop that doesn't have a CD drive. How can I create the USB stick? It seems there's a tool for it, but I cannot find where to download it for Windows or a Debian system
[13:32] <questnn> rww: ActionParsnip: Then they are doing Gods job. Parting fools with their money.
[13:32] <rww> !usb | mellum
[13:33] <rww> mellum:  short answer: unetbootin. Make sure you format the USB stick as FAT before you use it, though
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> questnn: well you are now enlightened
[13:35] <mellum> rww: okay, thanks.
[13:35] <mellum> rww: wouldn't it be normally shipped fat-formatted?
[13:36] <questnn> ActionParsnip: now now Son. Don't get me wrong but father questnn doesn't sound nice :)
[13:36] <rww> mellum: usually. Formatting will also delete anything that's on there, too... I only mention formatting because I was having problems making a USB boot drive until I formatted it. Not sure whether it was because of the filesystem type or currently-existing stuff on it
[13:37] <misteralexander> How many FONTS (.ttf) can Ubuntu handle? I just bought a "10,000" font pack . . . if I installed them all, can Ubuntu handle it?
[13:37] <SlimeyPete> misteralexander: I don't see why not
[13:37] <heyder> undo changes partitions tables?
[13:37] <SlimeyPete> try it and see ;)
[13:38] <Guest99512> hello
[13:38] <misteralexander> SlimeyPete: Okay, because I the site where I bought the (1001fonts) said XP can only do 1,000. I wanted to make sure Linux was different.
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> misteralexander: don't see why not
[13:38] <user-05> chat
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | misteralexander
[13:38] <Phase> I've been trying to use my external on ubuntu, but it's not quite working. It says it doesn't work due to an improper shutdown (when I plug it in and ubuntu runs whatever to try and auto mount it), so I tried to manually force it.. and get fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/WD External: No such file or directory
[13:38] <misteralexander> OKAY!  Sweet.  Thanks!
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Phase: plug it into windows and PROPERLY remove it, dont just rag it out
[13:39] <rww> Phase: It's ntfs formatted, I guess?
[13:39] <dinesh_> good evening sir
[13:39] <Phase> rww, Yeah, and I use ntfs-3g
[13:39] <user-05> yap
[13:39] <dinesh_> how can i instal skype on ubuntu
[13:39] <questnn> !skype
[13:39] <dinesh_> i have download it
[13:40] <Phase> ActionParsnip, I usually do, but I'll try that
[13:40] <questnn> dinesh_: Now that you are on Ubuntu consider moving to open protocols.
[13:40] <questnn> !sip
[13:40] <dinesh_> i386.deb
[13:40] <Nokian96> dinesh_, evening
[13:40] <questnn> dinesh_: read
[13:40] <DerKater> Hello everyone: i got a question for a new Ubuntu Server install... I'm logged in and got a command prompt, how do I get in X-Windows? I want to access VMWare
[13:40] <dinesh_> skype-debian_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.d
[13:41] <dinesh_> this is the software which one is download
[13:41] <JyZyXEL> skybuntu
[13:41] <questnn> DerKater: startx
[13:41] <questnn> DerKater: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[13:41] <rww> dinesh_: read the links that ubottu sent you
[13:41] <questnn> dinesh_: read
[13:41] <dinesh_> what i read
[13:41] <rww> dinesh_: specifically, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#Skype%20Repository
[13:42] <Maveas> What is your opinion about gFTP?
[13:42] <Lareth> Hello, is there anyway to make the mod_php module to work with the worker version of apache instead of the prefork one?
[13:42] <DerKater> questnn: thanks for your reply, unfortunately in both cases I get file not found
[13:42] <questnn> Lareth: How about #apache or #php
[13:42] <Phase> Maveas, I've used it, meh.
[13:42] <rww> DerKater: you don't have xorg installed
[13:42] <Phase> I like FileZilla
[13:42] <Nokian96> cai, hello
[13:42] <DerKater> questnn: is it possible that because I installed a server version, I can't get a desktop to view VMware?
[13:42] <Maveas> But FileZilla got somekind of bug with the UI
[13:43] <kaio_max> testando :P
[13:43] <Maveas> The text is to bright, can't read it
[13:43] <DerKater> rww: my ultimate goal would be to build a ubuntu box with vmware running
[13:43] <questnn> DerKater: Server versions don't start X - GUI to save on processes.
[13:43] <rww> DerKater: if you don't want to install the whole Ubuntu Desktop system, install package xorg (I think that's the right one)
[13:43] <ne2k__> kaio_max: uno, dos, tres?
[13:43] <questnn> DerKater: install a desktop version.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Maveas: you running compiz?
[13:43] <DerKater> rww: so i can spawn vmware
[13:43] <TjiffTjoff> ping
[13:44] <Lareth> questnn: Actually it is ubuntu that is causing me the problem, as when I try to install mod_php it is trying to remove the worker version and install prefork
[13:44] <DerKater> questnn: won't a desktop version will be less secure than the server package?
[13:44] <Lareth> questnn: which will make mono to not work.
[13:44] <DerKater> rww: how do i install xorg???
[13:44] <rww> DerKater: sudo apt-get install xorg
[13:44] <questnn> DerKater: You will need to have a running X to run Vmware, that is why you need GUI. No it won't be less secure. It will be upto you to secure them.
[13:44] <Maveas> ActionParsnip: And that is? :)
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Maveas: cube desktop
[13:45] <Maveas> Gnome?
[13:45] <rww> DerKater: that'll install a very bare-bones X11. If you want a normal desktop, install non-server Ubuntu or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:45] <questnn> Lareth: You could force install it with -f but that is going towards disaster. It is disabled for a reason
[13:45] <DerKater> questnn: ok I understand
[13:45] <piero> ciao
[13:46] <DerKater> rww: I wanted only xwindows plus vmware... can that be done easily without goind through a full desktop install?
[13:46] <rww> DerKater: Yes. Again: sudo apt-get install xorg
[13:46] <Lareth> questnn: ok.. Although that would mean that I cannot have mod_mono and mod_php working at the same time in ubuntu :(
[13:46] <Maveas> ActionParsnip: I'm using Gnome
[13:46] <questnn> Lareth: It would mean you would have to have better reasons to make it work with ubuntu even though the package manager suggests not doing so.
[13:46] <heyder> undo changes partitions tables? ubuntu 8.04 server
[13:47] <DerKater> rww: thanks I'm going to try both options and see which works best
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Maveas: you can use compiz+ gnome
[13:47] <DerKater> rww: once xorg is installed, how do I get to vmware? During install I had the option for "virtual machine host"
[13:47] <DerKater> I want to install vmware 2.0
[13:47] <Maveas> ActionParsnip: What is it's function?
[13:48] <jtapio> Hello!
[13:48] <rww> !vmware | DerKater
[13:48] <jtapio> On U8.10 there is no more compatibleness to KCron
[13:48] <DerKater> rww: cool thank you very much!
[13:48] <jtapio> what program is the best to use for graphical scheduled tasks.
[13:49] <jtapio> i want my computer to shutdown at 22.00 what program is the best for graphical tasks
[13:49] <jtapio> KCron is no more on U810
[13:49] <kaio_max> quatro, seis e sete :)
[13:49] <questnn> jtapio: You could just issue shutdown -h <time> in a terminal.
[13:49] <rww> !cron | jtapio: just learn how to crontab... it's not that hard
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Maveas: if you have 3d effects enabled try disabling them
[13:50] <zamba> jtapio: gnome-schedule
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Maveas: you can ftp from terminal
[13:50] <Maveas> Oh yeah
[13:50] <Maveas> But I'm a noob
[13:51] <Maveas> I've got compiz
[13:51] <dinesh_> sorry
[13:51] <dinesh_> sir
[13:51] <dinesh_> i m not able to install skype
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Maveas: then turn it off  and try again
[13:51] <Maveas> ActionParsnip: I've just disabled the 3D effects, didn't work
[13:52] <questnn> !skype | dinesh_
[13:52] <dinesh_> i see
[13:52] <Maveas> ActionParsnip: Do I have to logout and the login?
[13:52] <dinesh_> but i say that
[13:52] <dinesh_> i have download the software
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Maveas: no, just run: metacity --replace &
[13:52] <dinesh_> but how can i install it in ubuntu
[13:52] <questnn> !install | dinesh_
[13:53] <questnn> dinesh_: wait wrong version.
[13:53] <rww> !in
[13:53] <rww> just fyi
[13:53] <TjiffTjoff> dinesh_: Have you tried the deb from skypes site?
[13:53] <questnn> dinesh_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[13:54] <DB42> where can i find the source code for the program "strings" ?
[13:54] <andresmh> after playing youtube video on FF the sound card seems to be hijacked and other apps cannot use it. any idea how I can release it?
[13:54] <karabas> are anyone who use webcam with skype?
[13:54] <questnn> andresmh: It seems you are on ALSA, try pulseaudio.
[13:54] <questnn> !xandr
[13:55] <rww> !xrandr
[13:55] <questnn> rww: Would i use that to get an external projector working with my ati card?
[13:55] <rww> questnn: dunno, I haven't used it. Sounds like the right thing.
[13:57] <Maveas> ActionParsnip: Didn't work
[13:58] <karabas> is anyone using webcam with skype?
[13:58] <trask1> i do on my eee 900
[13:58] <karabas> except eee 9000
[13:59] <karabas> they are preconfigured
[13:59] <trask1> started working yesterday, first time since xandros, guess newest skype is ubuntu freindlier
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Maveas: so one you switch back to metacity, you cant get filezilla to work well
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Maveas: you tried gftp?
[14:00] <KAVI> hey my amarkov player and other multimedia players are not workin suddenly
[14:01] <KAVI> any idea of retifyin tat
[14:01]  * NetM is back (gone 00:40:47)
[14:01] <KAVI> plz smeone help me out in workin out my players back
[14:02] <peter_> hippopota
[14:02] <trask1> KAVI: try command: sudo killall pulseaudio
[14:02] <andresmh> questnn, how do I select pulse audio?
[14:03] <KAVI> wat ?
[14:03] <andresmh> karabas, I am using camera on skype, in fact skype is the only app that can use my webcam for some reason
[14:03] <andresmh> i have a thinkpad x300
[14:03] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, does anyone know a program which can extract text (OCR) from a little *.png file ???
[14:03] <KAVI> plz trask explain me clearly
[14:03] <questnn> andresmh: dig up your sounds in preferences/admin.
[14:04] <dinesh_> i want to install wine using add/remove
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> andresmh: tried amsn?
[14:04] <dinesh_> but an error is occure
[14:04] <KAVI> am new to tis operatin system
[14:04] <trask1> KAVI: im no expert, just the way i solve a similar problem i get every time i try to make our national tv channel working ( mms modified stuff )
[14:04] <rww> !ocd | AutoMatriX
[14:04] <rww> !ocr | AutoMatriX
[14:04] <rww> lol
[14:04] <karabas> andresmh: thnx, me I fail to use... seems like I can't do calls, that is why...
[14:05] <dinesh_> helloooooo
[14:05] <AutoMatriX> rww, thanks, that sould do the job, at least I hope :D grin
[14:05] <phnom> How do you uninstall something you have installed with make && sudo make install?
[14:05] <dinesh_> anyone help me??
[14:05] <KAVI> k fine....in whic u have entered  command?
[14:05] <phnom> !ask | dinesh_
[14:05] <Chousuke> AutoMatriX: there's also gnomescan
[14:06] <peter_> hippopota
[14:06] <dinesh_> i want to install wine using add remove facolity
[14:06] <dinesh_> but an error is their
[14:06] <andresmh> ActionParsnip, no, I've tried Camorama and Cheese, both couldn't connect to the webcam but skype did
[14:06] <AutoMatriX> Chousuke, I've already got the *.png file, it's containing nothing more than text
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> andresmh: give it a try
[14:06] <trask1> dinesh_: im sure thers easier ways that a faulty package manager. apt-get does the trick for me mostly. winehq.org proly also have a good guide