[10:38] <CIA-4> hw-detect: cjwatson * r136 ubuntu/ (70 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.73
[10:44] <CIA-4> hw-detect: cjwatson * r137 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.73ubuntu1
[11:25] <CIA-4> apt-setup: cjwatson * r175 ubuntu/ (68 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1:0.42
[11:30] <CIA-4> apt-setup: cjwatson * r176 ubuntu/ (16 files in 8 dirs): Add Release files for lucid.
[11:42] <CIA-4> apt-setup: cjwatson * r177 ubuntu/ (apt-setup-verify debian/changelog):
[11:42] <CIA-4> apt-setup: Increase the mirror verification timeout to 30 seconds, now that this
[11:42] <CIA-4> apt-setup: operation is cancellable. Some people (hi, Ara) seem to have trouble
[11:42] <CIA-4> apt-setup: getting mirror responses in 10 seconds.
[11:46] <CIA-4> apt-setup: cjwatson * r178 ubuntu/ (apt-setup debian/changelog): Correctly disable progresscancel on exiting apt-setup (LP: #462005).
[11:54] <CIA-4> apt-setup: cjwatson * r179 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1:0.42ubuntu1
[14:29] <davmor2> evand: how's things?  I'm trying to reproduce bug 477169 but so far no joy :)
[14:36] <evand> davmor2: not too bad.  Having constant network troubles the past two weeks.  Working from a Starbucks today.
[14:36] <davmor2> :( wounder
[14:39] <evand> trying to reproduce 477169 myself
[14:39] <evand> err wrong number
[14:40] <evand> bug 471498
[14:42] <davmor2> I can have a play with that too if you want, what info do you need from the logs if I get it?
[14:47] <CIA-4> ubiquity: evand * r3576 ubiquity/ (98 files in 10 dirs): Merge from Lucid branch.
[14:47] <evand> don't worry about it - I don't think additional logs are going to help here.
[14:47] <evand> thanks though
[15:06] <superm1> evand, for the karmic update i think it would be sufficient to just disable the hostname modifying stuff when running as oem config and the problem wont come up.  (there is nowhere in the UI to "set" the hostname anyway)
[15:11] <evand> superm1: okay
[15:16] <cjwatson> I agree, I'm not sure why mterry didn't stub that out for oem-config
[15:31] <evand> cjwatson: welcome back and happy belated birthday.
[15:32] <cjwatson> thanks :)
[15:32] <CIA-4> ubiquity: evand * r3577 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): Do not try to configure networking in oem-config (LP: #471498).
[17:41] <CIA-4> clock-setup: cjwatson * r213 ubuntu/ (11 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 0.100
[17:45] <CIA-4> clock-setup: cjwatson * r214 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.100ubuntu1


[13:19] <tjaalton> hum, something strange going on with multipath on initramfs, since I had to run 'kpartx -a -p -part /dev/mapper/mpath0' manually to create the devices. anyone have an idea why the kpartx udev rules failed to run that? or pointers how to debug the root cause?
[13:19] <tjaalton> this is jaunty of course
[13:27] <tjaalton> ok, "break=bottom" apparently should allow me to see how it fails
[14:11] <Kano> hi rtg , i would suggest do comple agp not static, seems to cause some problems when everything is active
[14:12] <Kano> i see not increased boot speed anyway
[14:12] <rtg> Kano: what problems is agp causing?
[14:13] <Kano> newer ati cards like r600+ on old agp systems fail
[14:13] <Kano> fglrx does not load
[14:13] <rtg> is this a change from 2.6.28-3 to 2.6.28-4 ?
[14:14] <Kano> yes, now are much more things static
[14:15] <Kano> i would not have got anything against if you would compile every PATA/SATA driver static however, that usually does not hurt and you can boot without initrd in many cases
[14:15] <Kano> but you dont need agp to boot
[14:16] <Kano> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a2b8564b7afe9a4cd44935e6c8a555e27236ada
[14:17] <Kano> i did not get the purpose of that commit
[14:17] <rtg> Kano: Can you build a test kernel with 'CONFIG_AGP_ATI=m' and confirm that it is really the problem?
[14:18] <Kano> i did, currently they use 2.6.27 kernels, but the ones with that problem are not online right now. its not me with that problem
[14:18] <Kano> somebody even needed to go back to 2.6.24...
[14:19] <rtg> hmmm, that doesn't really indicate an issue with AGP being built in.
[14:20] <Kano> i guess i am right, but will tell you when they are back
[14:20] <Kano> sed -i 's/\(CONFIG_AGP.*=\)y/\1m/' debian/config/i386/config
[14:20] <Kano> i used that for testing
[14:23] <rtg> Kano: I want to know why CONFIG_AGP_ATI=y is causing problems. Can you start a bug report and attach dmesg info and other pertinent information?
[14:24] <Kano> i dont think thats ati, because they often use nvidia boards
[14:24] <Kano> like nforce2 + radeon 2600
[14:25] <Kano> but i even know of a ati laptop with onboard vga (vostro 1000) which fails to load fglrx with that -4 kernel
[14:25] <rtg> Kano: so, you think its CONFIG_AGP=y that is the real issue?
[14:25] <Kano> nvidia would run even when agp is not working, so no good test
[14:26] <Kano> rtg: i will verify that as soon as the others are here, but at least those options directy adress the problems they have now
[14:53] <Kano> tseliot: is there a package for nvidia 180.18' vdpau+ header?
[14:56] <tseliot> Kano: only 180.11 ATM
[14:56] <Kano> not good
[14:56] <tseliot> I know
[14:56] <Kano> vdpau changed with 180.16
[14:57] <tseliot> Kano: I know. I'm working on other things but as soon as I'm done with them I'll upload the new driver
[14:57] <Kano> well it would be good to use it as build-dep for xine-vdpau or mplayer
[14:58] <Kano> in theory it should not really matter if vdpau libs are installed with other drivers
[14:59] <Kano> which can not use em
[15:39] <tjaalton> hrm, my jaunty still won't mount NFS mounts
[15:40] <rtg> tjaalton: -4 was supposed to fix that
[15:41] <tjaalton> rtg: yes I noticed. I've got a freshly installed server which hangs on boot likely because of that. I've got a workstation here and I'll try -4 with it
[15:41] <rtg> drat!
[15:43] <tjaalton> works, but I wonder why the server doesn't
[15:43] <tjaalton> it doesn't mount them on boot though, had to do it by hand
[15:45] <rtg> tjaalton: I presume the server would also hang on boot with -3?
[15:46] <tjaalton> rtg: possibly, can't verify it anymore since I got it to boot from a multipathed device tomorrow (with a patched grub), so before today it didn't boot at all :)
[15:46] <tjaalton> it'll timeout after a few hours though, I hope
[15:52] <tjaalton> eh, s/tomorrow/today/
[17:40] <Kano> rtg: something else: please disable: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND because when this is set, scanners do not work correctly
[17:42] <rtg> Kano: Intrepid has the same issue, right?
[17:43] <Kano> rtg: please dont force me to test that always
[17:44] <rtg> Kano: my point is that I didn't explicitly change CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND, so Intrepid likely has the same behavior.
[17:44] <Kano> no reports about not working xsane?
[17:45] <Kano> do you own a scanner
[17:45] <rtg> nope
[17:45] <Kano> thats not good to test
[17:45] <Kano> maybe get one from the sane list
[17:46] <rtg> Kano: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND causes scanners to not work _after_ resuming, right?
[17:47] <Kano> nope it must do something else, it has nothing to do with suspend to ram or so
[17:47] <Kano> that some auto suspend
[17:48] <Kano> it disables usb ports somehow
[17:49] <Kano> i guess you can patch sane to enable it before use
[17:49] <rtg> Kano: I'm looking at the kernel source to see what it does.
[17:49] <Kano> but i can not think that you really gain much energy by doing so
[17:49] <Kano> http://www.blackberryforums.com/linux-users-corner/97661-enable-disable-config_usb_suspend-s-autosuspend-mode.html
[17:50] <Kano> only usefull for laptops anyway
[17:51] <mjg59> No
[17:51] <mjg59> Useful for anything with USB
[17:51] <Kano> to save how much energy?
[17:52] <mjg59> Depends on how many USB ports you have
[17:52] <mjg59> In any case, it's now only autoenabled for hubs and a small number of specific devices
[17:52] <Kano> well scanners do not like it
[17:53] <mjg59> Bug number?
[17:53] <Kano> mjg59: seek for sane errors
[17:54] <mjg59> No
[17:55] <mjg59> Ever since 7d2c592609a7da950b458403f1936d382f38ff9c, autosuspend has been disabled by default except for hubs and any device where the kernel driver claims it supports autosuspend
[17:55] <mjg59> Which was August 2007
[17:55] <mjg59> Which means it'll be disabled by default on scanners, regardless of whether it's enabled in the kernel config
[17:56] <rtg> Kano: with Intrepid you can disable autosuspend in /etc/modprobe.d using "options usbcore autosuspend=-1", but Jaunty is likely gonna require a boot parameter 'usbcore.autosuspend=-1'
[17:56] <Kano> rtg: be sure i dont use ubuntu
[17:57] <rtg> Kano: I guess thats always a choice.
[17:57] <mjg59> Kano: It might be an idea for you to make sure you understand what the kernel actually does before making suggestions about default configuration
[17:57] <Kano> mjg59: well those config tunings help my users however
[17:58] <Kano> if yours dont need, ok
[17:58] <mjg59> Kano: Not on any kernel since 2.6.24
[17:58] <mjg59> Kano: Nowadays, my users are anyone who runs the kernel
[17:59] <mjg59> If you want your users to have their systems use more power, then that's your business. I just want to make it clear to you that your reason for doing so is invalid in this case.
[18:00] <Kano> well i tested the default config and i got reports of non working scanners
[18:01] <mjg59> With which kernel?
[18:01] <Kano> 2.6.28-4
[18:01] <mjg59> This seems unlikely. It's of course possible that there's a bug.
[18:02] <mjg59> What USB class do they present as?
[18:03] <rtg> mjg59: on a different topic, what are your thoughts about building in all PATA/SATA drivers as a step towards avoiding the initramfs delay? Are there module load order side effects?
[18:04] <mjg59> rtg: There are order side effects, but the default link order in the kernel should be correct
[18:04] <Kano> rtg: usually the buildin drivers even init in a more deterministic way than as module
[18:04] <Kano> i used that config before, no problem at all
[18:05] <rtg> I assume there a boot time parameters that help those cases where the order is not correct?
[18:05] <mjg59> Don't /think/ so
[18:05] <rtg> how about the SATA controllers? are they mostly well behaved?
[18:05] <mjg59> Device specific will init first. If they don't bind, the generic ACPI driver will attempt to. If that doesn't, the generic pci driver will attempt to. If that doesn't, the legacy driver will attempt to.
[18:06] <mjg59> Yeah, this is for all libata stuff
[18:06] <mjg59> You risk problems if you mix stuff from drivers/ide and drivers/ata
[18:06] <Kano> rtg: you can savely enable all SATA+PATA drivers
[18:06] <Kano> just do never enable legacy ide
[18:07] <Kano> as this is not set, i see no problem
[18:08] <rtg> Kano: right, but enabling all pata/sata drivers requires a bit of work in the debian installer bits too, so its gonna take awhile.
[18:09] <Kano> at least thats more important for booting without initrd than the ones you enabled now
[18:09] <rtg> Kano: its an iterative approach.
[18:10] <Kano> its highly unlikely that you could boot without initrd even when you compile dm things in the kernel, as it needs user space tools
[18:11] <rtg> some of the stuff we chose to compile in is core protocol code, code that is relatively invariant.
[21:05] <plipp> i guys & gals. Could I get some pointers on module-building?  I've downloaded the source through 'sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r); apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r).
[21:05] <plipp> Copied the config from /boot and built with "make modules" However, I get versioning issues when running them "no symbol version for struct_module"
[21:06] <plipp> I mean 'Hi' (I'm not french).
[21:21] <plipp> That is, rebuilding a module to a generic kernel
[21:32] <rtg> plipp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance, start with 'Getting the source', then 'Performing builds'
[21:49] <Kano> rtg: verified, fglrx works with agp modules -but not static.
[21:49] <Kano> just tested
[21:50] <rtg> Kano: ok


[02:20] <CloudUser> I waoke the dark star, the lost sky
[02:20] <CloudUser> Searching for your signal, receive mine
[02:21] <CloudUser> I kholed you cold and our tears became laughter
[02:21] <CloudUser> Happy ever after
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> server rhymes?
[02:22] <CloudUser> Out of all our secrets, we built a home
[02:22] <CloudUser> Confide and fortify, blood born
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> lets keep this channel for support CloudUser
[02:23] <CloudUser> A love like I was comes 'round once in a lifetime [m]
[02:23] <CloudUser> Sending you a lifeline
[02:24] <CloudUser> The bitter burn of a signal run cold
[02:24] <CloudUser> You became the dark star and left me all alone
[02:25] <CloudUser> When we said the words 'I love you'
[02:25] <CloudUser> I said them 'close to your truth
[02:26] <CloudUser> Why would you say those words to me
[02:26] <CloudUser> If you could not follow through?
[02:26] <CloudUser> Go wash your mouth out, child
[02:29] <CloudUser>  I waoke the dark star, the lost sky
[02:29] <CloudUser> hello lotuspsychje
[02:30] <CloudUser> and the video gives clues
[02:31] <CloudUser> if you liked the lyrics
[02:31] <sarnold> your poetry would probably be better received in literary journals
[02:31] <CloudUser> scoobydoo: hi
[02:32] <CloudUser> sarnold: you hang out here aswell? (as oftc)
[02:33] <sarnold> yeah
[02:33] <CloudUser> ubuntu is not strictly free
[02:33] <CloudUser> profiteer?
[02:33] <sarnold> not yet anyway
[02:35] <CloudUser> oh you are trying to crack it?
[02:36] <CloudUser> the lost sky
[02:37] <CloudUser> sarnold: aren't they your lyrics?
[02:38] <CloudUser> I had sad visions while studying up on nuclear warheads
[02:38] <CloudUser> lotuspsychje: fortify
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> !ops | CloudUser needs some help
[02:41] <CloudUser> is that what happens when you take the ring off, they turn against you
[02:42] <CloudUser> in so long youse may fade and nobody will remember
[02:42] <CloudUser> the song will be an unsolvable mystery
[02:43] <CloudUser> 99 red baloons
[02:43] <CloudUser> so deadly so cruel nuclear bombs
[02:44] <CloudUser> replay the history of detonation tests on screen
[02:44] <CloudUser> " your futures end " as she puts it
[02:47] <CloudUser> confide and fortify blood - bone
[02:48] <CloudUser> Earth is a fantasy
[02:48] <CloudUser> do you live do you die for the Fantasy
[02:49] <CloudUser> and as vve wind on down the 8mile high road
[02:50] <CloudUser> 99 red baloons such costly dreams
[02:50] <CloudUser> now das espensive!
[02:51] <CloudUser> you woke up to more murder
[02:51] <CloudUser> " greater good " B.S.
[02:52] <CloudUser> das an espensive dream !
[02:52] <CloudUser> you set the warrior free
[02:52] <CloudUser> no holding back
[02:52] <CloudUser> no fear of nuclear anhilation
[02:53] <CloudUser> "it's no holding back" keshone
[02:54] <CloudUser> mutual anhilation is now  a real prospect
[02:55] <CloudUser> greater love hath no man than this
[02:55] <CloudUser> that he lay down his life
[02:55] <CloudUser> "if I could not follow through"?
[02:56] <CloudUser> hey sarnold
[02:57] <CloudUser> I dont see a description off a stargate type nuclear war in thr apocalypse
[02:57] <CloudUser> did you notice that?
[02:58] <CloudUser> the closest thing is fire from heaven protecting two olive trees
[02:59] <CloudUser> hmph
[02:59] <CloudUser> 🤔
[03:00] <CloudUser> Seth?
[03:15] <CloudUser> Gog and Magog
[13:10] <atjb> hullo - I've got a question about Ubuntu Server install.  I've got a machine with 3 partitions - Windows, Ubuntu Desktop and what I think is the Windows essential partition.  I'd like to install over the top of the old Ubuntu partition and leave the rest in place.  Can't figure out how to do this in the custom installer - anyone able to point to a guide or general overview of the workflow?  Cheers!
[13:13] <rbasak> atjb: I'm not sure dual boot has ever been considered a supported use case on Ubuntu Server, sorry.
[13:15] <atjb> Ah - fair enough
[13:15] <rbasak> You could probably arrange it by hand though
[13:16] <rbasak> There's no fundamental reason it can't work - it's just not something that we have an automatic answer for
[13:16] <atjb> Fair enough
[13:17] <atjb> What kind of steps should I take?
[13:17] <rbasak> Manual partitioning
[13:18] <atjb> What will ubuntu server install onto?
[13:18] <rbasak> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/storage might help
[13:18] <atjb> A blank partition?
[13:18] <atjb> Thanks - I'll have a read
[13:18] <rbasak> That doc suggests to me that the installer can install by overwriting an existing partition
[13:18] <rbasak> I'm not sure what it will do about arranging boot vs. dual boot though.
[13:18] <rbasak> You might then need to fix up the boot by hand afterwards
[13:20] <atjb> Thanks - I'll have a look this evening
[13:21] <atjb> I couldn't figure installing by overwriting an existing partition though, but I'd be happy to blank one
[13:21] <atjb> fDisk from the installer?
[13:24] <rbasak> The bottom of that page suggests dropping to a shell from inside the installer, yes
[13:25] <atjb> I'll think again whether it's something I want to do
[13:25] <atjb> The machine isn't that strong - I think windows on the hardware is better


[10:47] <head_victim> bradm: in relation to your question about DNS and UbuntuWire, your best bet for ongoing communications was here all along, meet wgrant :)
[12:13] <sagaci> less than 20,000 to go
[12:17] <head_victim> So how bad is your RSI from your translation efforts ;0
[12:19] <sagaci> it's not too bad, i'm used to it
[12:21] <head_victim> I just wish you could hit a sort button and see on the front screen what needed doing rather than all the pages of completed ones
[12:21] <sagaci> yep
[12:21] <sagaci> it's a tad annoying


[12:09] <gary_poster> benji frankban gmb call in 2, getting yrl
[12:09] <gary_poster> url
[12:09] <gary_poster> bac is out today iirc
[12:10] <gary_poster> my computer might freeze :-(
[12:11] <gary_poster> benji frankban gmb https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/fb165b8e9fd0231431873de20d5678c0bf8e3692?authuser=1&hl=en-US
[12:13] <gary_poster> benji yoohoo
[12:14] <benji> gary_poster: coming
[12:33] <benji> gmb: I can't decide if pairing would be helpful or not.  Let me try the pair-with-myself-by-holding-two-sides-of-a-conversation approach first and if I get in too many arguments with myself I'll call you in to break up the fight.
[12:33] <gary_poster> benji, you were to pair with frankban :-)
[12:33] <gmb> benji, Okay. Also, I believe frankban is today's nominated victim.
[12:33] <benji> s/gmb/frankban/
[12:33] <gmb> :)
[12:33] <gary_poster> :-)
[12:33] <gmb> Story of my career.
[12:33] <gary_poster> heh
[12:35] <frankban> benji: :-) ok
[12:35] <frankban> gmb: the mp is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/launchpad/tests-randomization/+merge/109103
[12:36] <gmb> Thanks frankban
[12:40] <frankban> gary_poster: could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/launchpad/bug-1003040-again/+merge/109128 ? s/10/60
[12:40] <gary_poster> A work of staggering genius frankban. :-) approved and thanks
[12:40] <frankban> lol
[13:29] <gary_poster> gmb, I have a call with frankban in 2 but I was going to set up termbeamer for us for afterwards.  What is your gtalk/gmail acct?
[13:29] <gmb> gary_poster<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:30] <gary_poster> gmb, cool, sent you invite to chat
[14:13] <gary_poster> gmb, I'll be ready to rumble in about 7
[14:13] <gmb> Okay, I'll grab a cup of tea in the interim
[14:32] <gary_poster> gmb, and by 7, I mean 19. https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/fe09ad549a1b2d982cc2f0cae36ef68dc90231a0?authuser=1&hl=en-US
[15:48] <gmb> Anyone know why I'm seeing this in LXC?: ImportError: No module named convoy.meta
[15:48] <gmb> (when running make)
[15:49]  * benji takes lunch to run the earnest money to the listing agent.
[15:52] <gary_poster> gmb, no, but convoy is something that rick and deryck worked on
[15:52] <gmb> Okay, I'll ask 'em.
[15:52] <gmb> Cheers.
[15:53] <gmb> gary_poster, When using --load-list, is there anything special besides providing the path to the file that I need to do? Running with --load-list=... at the moment results in 0 tests running.
[16:13] <gary_poster> gmb, no that should be sufficient
[16:16] <gary_poster> gmb, I could not stop myself: the two tests are lp.app.browser.tests.test_launchpad.TestErrorViews.test_GoneError
[16:16] <gary_poster> lp.testing.tests.test_testing.TestFeatureFlags.test_set_feature_flags_raises_if_not_available
[16:16] <gmb> gary_poster, Haha, thanks :)
[16:16] <gary_poster> but you still need to be able to run them :-)
[16:16] <gmb> Well, yes.
[16:16] <gmb> But I'll work on that bit.
[16:16] <gary_poster> :-) k
[16:17]  * gmb needs to write a script for the get-gary-to-bisect-and-find-the-problem approach
[16:17] <gary_poster> :-)
[16:25] <gary_poster> Oh!  gmb!  I meant to talk to you about what you ended up doing for the UDS Launchpad spin up.  I have a plan on how to do it with Juju, but wanted to make sure you hadn't already solved it
[16:43] <gmb> gary_poster, Ah. My answer was to have an EBS-backed AMI, in the end, because doing it any other way was horribly slow.
[16:44] <gmb> But I was trying to work this out to a rapidly approaching deadline (whilst trying to avoid bikeshedding with Gustavo)
[16:44] <gmb> So I'm open to other options.
[16:48] <gary_poster> gmb cool!  Do you have a sec for another quick call?  I'd like to talk you through my idea and see what you think.
[16:49] <gmb> gary_poster, Sure, let me get FF up and running again.
[16:49] <gary_poster> cool
[16:49] <gary_poster> gmb https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/a416cf496fa2f47279276ac3a90996f786ace593?authuser=1&hl=en-US
[18:31] <gary_poster> benji https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/0bc32772bf2edfd99b32b346d8550447ae12bfc8?authuser=1&hl=en-US
[18:31] <gary_poster> no rush
[20:11] <gary_poster> benji, you want to hang out?  If so, do you want me to make the hangout?
[20:16] <benji> gary_poster: sounds good
[20:16] <gary_poster> cool
[20:17] <gary_poster> benji https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/f79b459eac9c732f75a6d290814f5e28e28b06d2?authuser=1&hl=en-US


[00:00] <PryMar56> that is shell for libvirt
[00:00] <PryMar56> you can remove the default network
[00:01] <acovrig> PryMar56, brctl delbr virbr0?
[00:01] <PryMar56> sure, till reboot
[00:02] <acovrig> PryMar56, can I permanently do that (since I don't think I use it), or would I need to put something in /etc/init.d?
[00:03] <acovrig> PryMar56, I do have VMs in kvm/libvirt, but they're using other bridges, none of them are using virbr0
[00:05] <PryMar56> virsh net-undefine default
[00:06]  * PryMar56 apologizes for spoon feeding
[00:08] <acovrig_> PryMar56, thanks
[00:09] <acovrig_> when masquerading, what if do I specify, the one I'm expecting a connection on, or the one I'm connecting to?
[00:19] <PryMar56> acovrig_, looking at the iptables trace, the bridges are MASQ'd
[00:19] <PryMar56> you can dump those rules as `iptables-save`
[00:28] <acovrig_> PryMar56, I'm currently double-NAT'd (for the next ~week) <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is an ubuntu machine running pfsense as a router VM (libvirt); it connects (WAN) to a <IP_ADDRESS>/24 LAN; if I have 'iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o br0 -j MASQUERADE' in 5.4 (the VM host), other clients can't connect to anything on the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network.
[00:29] <acovrig_> PryMar56, 5.4 is a client-to-client-LAN gateway to the 5.0/24 network from an openvpn overlay network (to a VPS)
[00:30] <acovrig_> PryMar56, when setting this system as a gateway, do I MASQUERADE br0 (LAN with 5.0/24) or tun0 (OpenVPN client IP to overlay network)?
[00:34] <PryMar56> don't try that at home, setup is for professionals only... pretty complicated to say for me
[00:50] <Dirnan> Having trouble with postfix not recieving or sending outside domain
[00:50] <Dirnan> any takers
[00:52] <Dirnan> i can login to the pop server remotely and send and recoeve to only local accounts
[04:21] <LarsN> kirkland: are you there?
[04:32] <fandi> hi
[04:32] <fandi> i got gpg error : link this
[04:32] <fandi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9566355/
[04:33] <fandi> how to delete gpg key or disable that
[09:40] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:11] <jamespage> coreycb, zul: I've bumped new versions of alembic and oslo.utils into vivid; oslo.context is in the NEW queue
[11:42] <zul> jamespage:  whats using oslo.context?
[11:43] <jamespage> zul, neutron
[11:45] <jamespage> zul, does the py 2.7.9 incompatibility matertilize via unverified certs?
[11:45] <zul> jamespage:  it does
[11:45] <jamespage> zul, where is the bug again? keystone is impacted
[11:45] <zul> jamespage:  https://github.com/python/peps/blob/master/pep-0476.txt
[11:46] <zul> jamespage:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1403068
[11:50] <zul> jamespage:  i have a patch that ignores some test failures for cinder if you want (rtslib)
[11:52] <jamespage> zul: I think glanceclient is impacted as well
[11:52] <zul> fuuuu
[11:58] <jamespage> zul: hmmm
[11:58] <jamespage> yes
[11:58] <jamespage> oslo.vmware 0.8.0 uploaded
[12:02] <jamespage> zul, ok trying a patch to glance tests
[12:02] <jamespage> glancelient that is
[12:03] <jamespage> coreycb, btw I'm applygin a new uversionmangle - "s/\.0b/~b/"
[12:04] <zul> jamespage:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9569176/
[12:09] <jamespage> zul, I see the issue with glanceleitn
[12:59] <jamespage> zul, glanceclient fixed and proposed upstream
[13:00] <zul> jamespage:  cool
[14:13] <thor77> hello, i tried to install mpd with pulse-audio like described here http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio on my ubuntu 14.10-server, but i stuck on this (http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio#Adjusting_Volume_.2F_Sinks_.2F_etc.) step, i dont get it to connect to pulse using pacmd, it always says "No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon" but i can see a pulseaudio process with "ps x"
[14:17] <kirkland> LarsN: yes, hi
[14:29] <coreycb> jamespage, looks like python-rtslib-fb needs to get into main for cinder, and python-wsgiref needs to be synced
[14:30] <jamespage> coreycb, nack on rtslib
[14:30] <jamespage> coreycb, just patch it out - see zuls pastebin above
[14:31] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[14:38] <jamespage> coreycb, zul: can I get a +1 for including rabbitmq-server in the kilo CA please - 3.3.5 introduced better default queue failover
[14:39] <coreycb> jamespage, +1
[14:39] <coreycb> jamespage, should I request a sync of python-wsgiref?
[14:40] <jamespage> coreycb, I can't see that in debian or ubuntu?
[14:40] <jrwren> any simplestreams folks around?
[14:41] <jrwren> how does simplestreams get the latest version?  is it lexical order? numeric order?
[14:41] <jrwren> e.g. jq '.products."com.ubuntu.cloud.daily:server:14.10:amd64".versions |keys' com.ubuntu.cloud\:daily\:aws.json  looks numeric, can I rely on that?
[14:54] <coreycb> jamespage, nevermind it's in libpython2.7-stdlib
[15:06] <agend> hi - i'm just setting up server - and I need plenty of requests per second, started with ubuntu, and had nf_conntrack problem - fixed it, got better rps troughput - but I wonder is there linux distro which would be tuned for high permormance http serving out of the box?
[15:06] <agend> or some links to sources about tuning ubuntu server?
[15:23] <coreycb> jamespage, what do you think about getting a new vesion of pecan > 0.8.0 into vivid?  (ceilometer)
[15:25] <jamespage> coreycb, sounds like a good idea - I assume its required for ceilometer?
[15:39] <jrwren> agend: not afaik. Are you server static content or an application. Typically you would tune your application to be faster.
[15:59] <coreycb> jamespage, sorry, yes it's required by ceilometer
[16:06] <jamespage> coreycb, ++ then
[16:06] <agend> jrwren: content is dynamic, and not its not application problem - its written in go and it's pretty fast. I have to tune the os
[16:09] <jrwren> agend: ah, so already profiled. Interesting. What issues are you seeing then?
[16:34] <jamespage> coreycb, https://github.com/openstack/requirements/commit/70b10edb67ae72bf1f2436ee5abe6ae208ea4d2a
[16:34] <jamespage> argh!
[16:35] <agend> jrwren: like i said: nf_conntrack so far, got it better, now waiting for next surprise
[16:35] <agend> jrwren: looks like i have to be ubuntu expert to get it done
[16:36] <coreycb> jamespage, oh great
[16:36] <jrwren> agend: i'm not sure what nf_conntrack is, but I've mostly run on cloudimg, which is a bit different than ubuntu-server
[16:36] <agend> jrwren: running on bare metal
[16:38] <jamespage> coreycb, I'm seeing a nova test failure I think its related to that
[16:40] <coreycb> jamespage, and 0.9.2 is the latest version it looks like
[16:45] <jamespage> coreycb, yeah
[16:45] <jamespage> coreycb, just thinking as to whether we should revert back to 0.9.1
[16:48] <tekk> hi guys, once the server has booted up and services initialized, just before it goes to the console login prompt, the video mode seemingly changes… does anyone know where this is configured? as my kvm-switch doesn’t seem to support it.
[16:49] <coreycb> jamespage, or temporarily revert the 0.9.2 change the caused it
[16:50] <tekk> i’m abou to try GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
[16:52] <tekk> well that didn’t owrk
[16:56] <jamespage> coreycb, actually it might be OK
[16:57] <jamespage> coreycb, zul reverted the offending commit - I think I just has a bad test run locally - in ppa its fine
[16:57] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[16:57] <coreycb> jamespage, https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ubuntu/vivid/python-pecan/merge
[17:00] <jamespage> coreycb, "Merge from Debian unstable?"
[17:00] <coreycb> no?
[17:00] <jamespage> coreycb, what are you merging? I'm confused
[17:00] <jamespage> vivid has the same version as debian right now
[17:01] <jamespage> coreycb, I was expecting 'New upstream release'
[17:01] <coreycb> jamespage, ok.. yeah I guess we're forking in a way
[17:01] <jamespage> coreycb, probably only for a bit - I've told zigo we're pushing kilo-1 updates this week
[17:02] <jamespage> so he should have an eye out
[17:02] <jamespage> coreycb, merge == pull in changes from debian, re-apply ubuntu delta
[17:02] <jamespage> coreycb, new upstream release == just ubuntu
[17:02] <jamespage> coreycb, sync - just sync over from debian -> ubuntu
[17:02] <jamespage> (drop any changes)
[17:03] <coreycb> jamespage, yeah, makes sense
[17:04] <coreycb> jamespage, ok pushed a new version
[17:06] <jamespage> coreycb, for future reference, you don't need to say 'updated maintainer' - that's impled for a 0ubuntu1
[17:06] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[17:06] <tekk> anyone?
[17:07] <jamespage> coreycb, I'm this close to having nova ready I think
[17:07] <jamespage> coreycb, unfortunately my power rate sync patch breaks tests now
[17:07]  * jamespage sighs
[17:07] <coreycb> jamespage, :/
[17:08] <jamespage> coreycb, if https://launchpad.net/~james-page/+archive/ubuntu/vivid/+build/6661407 completes +1
[17:08] <jamespage> coreycb, swift is done btw
[17:08] <jamespage> but that's all from my list
[17:09] <coreycb> jamespage, ok.  I'm a bit behind.  ceilometer is just waiting on python-pecan and should be all set once we get the new version.  cinder has a few more failing tests that I need to figure out.
[17:09] <coreycb> jamespage, that's all I've made it to so far
[17:11] <jamespage> coreycb, pecan uploaded - thanks!
[17:11] <coreycb> jamespage, thank you!
[17:13] <tekk> after booting, just before the login prompt the screen resolution changes to something i don’t support… any ideas? (Ubuntu Server 14.04)
[17:17] <jamespage> coreycb, nova - done
[17:17] <jamespage> coreycb, and with that I'm off
[17:18] <coreycb> jamespage, alright, thanks
[17:58] <Karunamon> huh, didn't know this channel existed. neat
[17:59] <Karunamon> repeating my other question then - is anyone aware if it is possible to control the installer dialog when doing a preseed/kickstart?
[19:06] <pmatulis> Karunamon: you can suppress most dialogs by providing a pre-determined answer
[20:32]  * mait is getting "AuthType Basic configured without corresponding module" from apache2 in 14.04.1 LTS
[20:32] <mait> after upgrading from precise
[20:42] <Meerkat> they upgraded apache 2.2 to 2.4 so there are some changes. site config files need to end in .conf for example.
[20:43] <mait> Got past some of those initial issues...
[20:44] <mait> I was thinking others might have seen this. My config looks very close to the example given for Apache 2.4 by apache.org
[20:50] <Meerkat> mait, enter apache2ctl -M
[20:50] <Meerkat> is auth_basic_module listed there?
[20:52] <mait> Yes. Actually, the simple case works. My troubles are with AuthnProviderAlias
[20:55] <Meerkat> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21385818/apache-authtype-not-set-internal-500-error/21386863#21386863
[20:56] <Meerkat> mait, does that help?
[20:59] <mait> Yes, that was part of what I've already gotten past.
[21:00] <Meerkat> could you paste your config file then?
[21:00] <mait> Thanks, but I think there's something about 2.4 that doesn't work like 2.2's mod_authn_alias did.
[21:01] <Meerkat> mait, indeed. "The functionality provided by mod_authn_alias in previous versions (i.e., the AuthnProviderAlias directive) has been moved into mod_authn_core. "
[21:01] <Meerkat> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html
[21:02] <mait> I'm trying to do the first example in http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_authn_core.html
[21:12] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all .. I'm not totally new at running my webserver, but I did a clean install of 14.04 (01) and now when I set up my sites they all point right back to the default Apache page . did something change?
[21:14] <Meerkat> NineTeen67Comet, what does ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ return?
[21:15] <NineTeen67Comet> 000-default.conf and www.openlug.com.conf (my site) .. I've got more to add, but the first one was broken so I quit to seek knowledge :) ..
[21:18] <Meerkat> if you wanna remove 000-default.conf you can do so with "a2dissite 000-default"
[21:20] <NineTeen67Comet> Yeah .. headed in the right direction .. thank you much Meerkat .
[21:20] <Meerkat> then you need to enter "service apache2 reload" to load the new configuration.
[21:20] <NineTeen67Comet> Roger .. buttoned that one up .. I'm usually pretty good with the Ubuntu server (Been running it since I left Gentoo in 06 or so) .. So much thanks, I've been kicking myself all day ..
[21:34]  * mait may be hitting https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55622 using apache2 2.4.7-1ubuntu4
[21:35] <mait> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55622
[21:36] <mait> Hmm. my broswer like it at least :(
[21:42] <Meerkat> it works for me too.
[21:56] <asantoni_> hi all, an apt-get nfs-kernel-server update on ubuntu 12.04 seems to have taken our production NFS share down :(
[21:56] <asantoni_> it's like read-only
[21:57] <bekks> Did you restart the nfs server after updating?
[21:57] <asantoni_> I just did that a few mins ago, did I do it right? I did sudo serviec nfs-kernel-server restart
[21:58] <asantoni_> logs on the server show
[21:58] <asantoni_> http://pastebin.com/bntfyJKJ
[21:58] <asantoni_> dmesg on the client machines show: [23366474.713247] NFS: state manager: check lease failed on NFSv4 server xyz.com with error 13
[21:59] <bekks> Did you remount the share?
[22:00] <asantoni_> bekks: yeah, first I did "sudo umount -lf /mnt/nfs", then::
[22:00] <asantoni_> sudo mount.nfs -o nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,noacl,nocto,rsize=32768,wsize=32768 xyz.com:/mnt/disk/nfs /mnt/nfs/
[22:01] <asantoni_> it remounts but it's read-only... I get permission denied if I try to create or modify files
[22:02] <bekks> Whats the output of "mount | grep nfs" on the client?
[22:03] <asantoni_> nfs.xyz.com:/mnt/disk/nfs on /mnt/nfs type nfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,noacl,nocto,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,vers=4,addr=2a01:4f8:150:1309::2,clientaddr=2a01:4f8:150:30a8::2)
[22:04] <bekks> oh, you are using ipv6
[22:07] <asantoni_> still getting permission denied all the time, it's weird
[22:11] <asantoni_> OK I turned on access logging (rpcdebug -m nfs -s proc) and I see: kernel: [3201308.065629] NFS reply getattr: 0
[22:35] <asantoni_> OK so
[22:35] <asantoni_> anonuid=0 and anongid=0 saved us
[22:35] <asantoni_> the rpc idmapping thing is apparently not working right all of a sudden
[22:35] <asantoni_> maybe it is some ipv6 vs. ipv4 issue


[21:30] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: Can't access terminal. Ctrl+alt+F1 isn't working. :<
[21:31] <_44trent3> why is youtube lagging so bad? does it have something to do with my amd driver?
[21:31] <tsaavik> Hey all, did gnome-terminal loose the ability to set the title of the tabs in xenial?
[21:31] <_44trent3> i mean, i'm kind of stuck on the open source one, obviously
[21:32] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: Just black screen with the login sound. Ctrl+alt+F1 isn't working this time.
[21:33] <hinderaker> How good is the do-release-upgrade command? I have no access to the server and it is hosting a couple of important websites. Simple setup with apache2, php5-fpm and mySQL.  Try'n to come up with a means to "know" what release we are dealing with .
[21:34] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | hinderaker
[21:34] <\9> hinderaker: 14.04 LTS won't be issued an update until later this year
[21:35] <Bashing-om> hinderaker: There are issues with mysql upgrading to 16.04 . read the release notes carefully .
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: When you boot, can you get the grub boot menu ? and from that menu can you  boot a "recovery" kernel ?
[21:36] <hinderaker> Ah, thanks. I didn't know. Well, then I don't have to decide on this yet :) Thanks again m8s.
[21:37] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: last time it went straight to login screen even I was holding shift, lemme try again
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: L .. mystified presently on what is not taking place .
[21:38] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: I'll try to hold shift after unlocking disk
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: EFI system it is the escape key that grub looks for .
[21:39] <TomLee> anyone knows what kind of keyboard is displayed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet ??
[21:39] <Nitrigaur> I'm running 14.04, have LTS updates enabled, but my update manager does not show the option to upgrade to 16.04 > My language is Dutch, might that have something to do with it?
[21:39] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: tried holding shift after unlocking disk, it just went to black login screen
[21:40] <EriC^^> !ltsupgrades | Nitrigaur
[21:40] <EriC^^> !ltsupgrade | Nitrigaur
[21:40] <_28_ria> hello, how do you restart graphical desktop without restarting the whole computer? I have ubuntu 15.10. In earlier versions I used to be able to do: sudo service gdm restart. Now it doesn't work.
[21:40] <Nitrigaur> Ah, so upgrade is now only possible via indirect route, through 15.10?
[21:41] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: EFI system ?
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> _28_ria  it's now lightdm, not gdm
[21:41] <EriC^^> _28_ria: sudo service lightdm restart restarts the whole desktop, it'll log you out though
[21:41] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: you can force an upgrade early
[21:42] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, what are the known downsides of that?
[21:42] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: maybe less stable
[21:42] <mercutio> people who are on lts versions may want smoething that's been verified fine over a period oftime
[21:42] <mercutio> of time
[21:42] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: I don't know, but it doesn't react to shift
[21:42] <mircx1> how i check my version from Terminal?
[21:42] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, is your nick based off VTM Bloodlines?
[21:42] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: no
[21:42] <mercutio> it's from romeo and juliet forever ago :)
[21:43] <k1l_> mircx1: "lsb_release -d"
[21:43] <_28_ria> EriC^^: MonkeyDust: so, sudo service lightdm restart works in 15.10?, hm, I thought, that nothing with sudo service works anymore and I have to use sudo systemctl
[21:43] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, Ah yes of course, how silly of me :-)
[21:43] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: OK, got GRUB now. I hold shift between BIOS and before unlocking disk
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: In that case .. try spamming the escape key as soon as the firmware screen clears .. do you now get the grub boot menu ?
[21:43] <EriC^^> _28_ria: it translates stuff into systemctl commands
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: K.. and recovery kernel boots ?
[21:44] <_28_ria> EriC^^: I see, ok, thanx
[21:44] <EriC^^> _28_ria: no problem
[21:44] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, it's quite tempting to go to 16.04 and finally have a working Sigil (ePub authoring and a spanking new version of LibreOffice cdemu and wibom without ppa's)
[21:45] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: just do it then :)
[21:45] <mercutio> but then i use arch linux for desktop
[21:45] <mercutio> and only use ubuntu for servers
[21:45] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: Seems to get stuck in "[2.648861] clocksource: Switched to clocksource tsc".
[21:45] <mercutio> ubuntu tends to have old package versions
[21:45] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: Ah, when I press a button it requests the unlocking key
[21:46] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: We are in territory I know nothing avout .. encryption !
[21:46] <wad_> WTH? With Ubuntu 16.04, I can no longer rename tabs in gnome-terminal. >_<
[21:46] <tsaavik> Yes, having same issue
[21:47] <Rubiksmomo-> Bashing-om: resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary
[21:47] <wad_> That's an epic fail!  It has a nasty crippled UEFI without any boot menu and a hardcoded link to start the Win64 (Win8.1) shim...
[21:48] <wad_> In the old version, I could rename a tab in a tenth of a second: "ALT-t s name"
[21:48] <mercutio> i just use urxvtd/urvxtc
[21:48] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: i dont know of any personally but you could be able to trick the uefi into booting ubuntu
[21:48] <mercutio> and all my terminals get labeled by the shell
[21:48] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, any hints on that?
[21:49] <mercutio> but then i use ion, so it naturally tabs all of my terminals
[21:49] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, I don't want to end up with a really expensive, but lightweight brick ;-)
[21:49] <tsaavik> I have a command that opens 10 windows, sshs to a jump server and connects to 10 tmux sessions. the --terminal="blah" option was VERY nice :\
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo-: For our present purpose .. "root shell" will serve . - what returns ' cat /etcx/issue ' ? a one liner .
[21:50] <effectnet> woo!
[21:50] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: boot a live usb, mount the filesystem, mount bind the virtual filesystems, chroot, mount -a, then cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[21:50] <mercutio> tsaavik: that sounds pretty nifty
[21:50] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup
[21:51] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: then cp the ubuntu file over them, cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[21:52] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: and cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[21:52] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: then change the middle line in /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft from bootmgfw.efi to bootmgfw.efi.backup so grub knows what to look for and update-grub
[21:53] <EriC^^> it should work, if it doesn't you can just switch the files back by copying bootx64.efi.backup over bootx64.efi and the same for bootmgfw.efi.backup
[21:54] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: sometimes just disabling the uefi entry for windows lets ubuntu work ( sudo efibootmgr -A -b <hex number> )
[21:55] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: sudo efibootmgr -v to get the number, and sudo efibootmgr -a -b <hex number> to make it active again if it doesn't work
[21:55] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, Thank you so much! It has been ages ago since I've used bind mounts, so it's time for me to look up the proper syntax and order of actions. But your hints will get me there.
[21:56] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: no problem
[21:56] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: OK, managed to boot the recovery mode image normally. I'm in login loop, but could access the terminal. What command should I type? There was some command to make a paste?
[21:56] <ArabicSoap> People. I am trying to install the latest Ubuntu on a Mac, but I cannot get both Ubuntu and Mac together. How should I partition the sus
[21:57] <ArabicSoap> The system?
[21:57] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, I have been quite mad at Sony for having the nerve of crippling the UEFI of such an expensive machine, but I will relax once a proper OS runs on it.
[21:57]  * Elektrode
[21:58] <EriC^^> Nitrigaur: yeah, some uefi implementations can be quite a mess, hp are notorious for it too
[21:58] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: "cat /etc/issue" says: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l
[21:58] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, I might try Arch again, the documentation is amazing and since I don't use that laptop for gaming, it might be a very good fit for that machine.
[21:58] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: what version of OSX are you running?
[21:59] <curlyears> how do IJ post something to pastebin?
[21:59] <mercutio> well for desktops i prefer arch
[21:59] <k1l_> !pastebinit | curlyears
[21:59] <mercutio> ubuntu is ok for servers
[21:59] <mercutio> once you remove networkmanager and all that other crap
[21:59] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: I want to install Mac OS X 10.10, but at the moment I only have Ubuntu 15.10
[21:59] <k1l_> mercutio: its even ok for desktops.
[22:00] <Nitrigaur> mercutio, yes, indeed, you can even run an OpenStack. That's quite something.
[22:00] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: ok, so you have ubuntu installed but want to add osx?
[22:00] <k1l_> mercutio: arch linux got a totally different scope than ubuntu. (but this is something for #ubuntu-offtopic )
[22:00] <ArabicSoap> Well I want to format everything and install both Ubuntu and Mac OS X cgunders1on
[22:01] <Nitrigaur> k1l_, don't blame him/ her, it was me who got back on Arch as topic. mercutio just casually made a remark
[22:01] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: ok, i'd recommend just installing osx first on the entire drive. then use the diskutility to shrink the partition
[22:01] <cgunders1on> then you can install ubuntu after that
[22:01] <cgunders1on> probably the easiest way
[22:01] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Outstanding .. so as you are at a terminal .. we can run ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' let's see what X is doing .
[22:02] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/16089080/
[22:02] <Rubiksmomo_> used that "pastebinit" command
[22:03] <mercutio> this termbin thing seems nifty
[22:03] <effectnet> geez it's 86f here
[22:03] <Nitrigaur> EriC^^, mercutio, thanks again for all the help. I need to get some sleep now Zzzzzz
[22:03] <Rubiksmomo_> There are 5 lines with "(EE)"
[22:04] <mercutio> Nitrigaur: laters
[22:04] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: I tried that, my question is: what option should I use when installing Ubuntu after Mac? Because when I do it ends up formatting the entire system and installing only itself
[22:05] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: K .. " 73.080] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  364.19  " How in the world did you install this driver in 14.04 ?
[22:06] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Not sure, I tried all kinds of things =D
[22:06] <curlyears> OK, here's my pastebin.   How do I resolve this?  if I try apt-get install python it tells me that the most recent version of python is already intalled.    I don't get it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16089102/
[22:06] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: I think that's from ppa:graphics-drivers, the newest one
[22:06] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: you need to manually place the ubuntu partition on the disk during installation. i believe it's the 'other' option.
[22:06] <dannymichel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322266 any ideas?
[22:07] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Installed from the settings > additional drivers after adding the repo
[22:07] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: i'm not super sure about how it looks, maybe someone else can fill you in
[22:07] <genii> Bashing-om: Yes, this user installed the PPA at https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa recently, they wanted to experiment with the Vulcan stuff of NVidia drivers
[22:07] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Maybe a good thing .. but Nvidia recommends the 361 version for your card . .. show us ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and let's verify a good source for getting the 364 driver .
[22:07] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: the "something else" option opens a partition table and I don't know what to do with.
[22:08] <curlyears> what is "ppa"?
[22:08] <Bashing-om> genii: Thanks for that .. helps bunches .. Great PPA as far as I am concerned .
[22:08] <k1l_> !ppa | curlyears
[22:09] <curlyears> OK, here's my pastebin.   How do I resolve this?  if I try apt-get install python it tells me that the most recent version of python is already intalled.    I don't get it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16089102/
[22:10] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: hold on and i'll try and find the guide for that
[22:10] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: 1/2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/16089219/
[22:10] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: ok thanks.
[22:10] <dannymichel> I've noticed that minimizing Wine applications makes them disappear. They don't stay in the 'dock(for lack of a better known word)'
[22:10] <k1l_> curlyears: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: :) so far so fine ... stock sources list .. so far .
[22:11] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: 2/2 termbin.com/1mdgc
[22:12] <daniel__> hi
[22:12] <dionysus69> usr13: yep still here
[22:13] <curlyears> k1l_:   Description:      ubuntu  14.04.4 LTS
[22:13] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: you can read about partitioning here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch06s03.html#di-partition
[22:14] <dionysus69> usr13: the thing is that I am using kodibuntu and its a minified version of xfce, it is missing stuff obviously so it's not ubuntu's fault
[22:14] <ArabicSoap> cgunders1on: thank you very much. I hope it works :-)
[22:14] <dionysus69> usr13: going to sleep btw
[22:14] <k1l_> curlyears: there is no python-wxgtk3.0 in 14.04. so whatever you installed there (from a 3rd party repo or 3rd party package) is not meant for 14.04
[22:14] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: you'll need two partitions, one with mountpoint '/' and filesystem ext4
[22:14] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Great ! .. I see what might be going on too ! " /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bumblebee-stable-trusty.list " . Show now ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' Let's make sure there is no conflict .
[22:14] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: and one swap file system
[22:15] <curlyears> k1l_:  nastywords.  That is the most recent versioon  of the gcode translator/control program for my 3-D printer.  )-:
[22:15] <ArabicSoap> Ok got it. Will try that now. :-)
[22:15] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: there are a lot of different options for different needs but that will get you up and running
[22:15] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/nb7t
[22:15] <cgunders1on> ArabicSoap: good luck :)
[22:15] <ArabicSoap> Brilliant.
[22:16] <mercutio> wow ubuntu upgraded nginx from 1.9 to 1.10
[22:16] <mercutio> in xenial
[22:17] <curlyears> one thing I wish I could change in bitchx:  on a busy channel, it helps tremendously if private messages are highlighted on the screen
[22:17] <teward> mercutio: if you read the Xenial release notes you'd have noticed that
[22:17] <teward> mercutio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Server - "Ubuntu 16.04 includes version 1.9.15 of the Nginx web server, with an expectation to provide the next stable release of Nginx, 1.10.0, as an SRU after release (which will be virtually identical to 1.9.15)."
[22:17] <mercutio> oh interesting
[22:17] <teward> mercutio: also, unless you have a support question, discussion on this is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:19] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Uh huh ... " ii  bumblebee " . Depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime .. only one or the other can be installed . ' sudo apt purge bumble* ' as the source has been removed, - I hope this will suffice .
[22:19] <mercutio> teward: ahh i didn't realise that would be considered offtopic
[22:20] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: OK, still in login loop. Reboot?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: No, not yet .. show anew ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' Need to make sure "primus" was also removed . .. concerned that "nvidia-prime" is not installed .
[22:23] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/lpik
[22:24] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: K .. looking promising .. what now with ' sudo apt install nvidia-prime ' ?
[22:25] <Rubiksmomo_> black login screen or login loop ^_^ Let's try
[22:26] <Rubiksmomo_> I should do "apt-get autoremove"
[22:26] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/44ym
[22:27] <i-make-robots> hi!  I accidentally reset the owners on /var/log.  I need to reconfirm the correct owner to fix this mistake.
[22:27] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Look'n .
[22:28] <i-make-robots> who should own /var/log/apport.log?
[22:28] <i-make-robots> (i've already fixed a bunch, but several i have no comparisson and no google help)
[22:29] <Rubiksmomo_> i-make-robots: Mine should be original: termbin.com/kqdf & termbin.com/tja3
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: What now when you reboot without the 'nomodeset' boot parameter ? ... maybe all is good, maybe purge again and re-install ??? But, making progress !
[22:30] <Rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: let's see ^_^
[22:30] <Bashing-om> i-make-robots: sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /var/log/apport.log >> -rw-r----- 1 root adm 0 Apr 20  2014 /var/log/apport.log
[22:31] <i-make-robots> thank you, Bashing-om
[22:31] <i-make-robots> how about /var/log/systat/ ?  the folder, not the contents
[22:32] <Bashing-om> i-make-robots: Nope :  /var/log/systat/: No such file or directory .
[22:32] <i-make-robots> i also need exim4, landscape, and holland.
[22:34] <Bashing-om> i-make-robots: None ^^ are on my sustem .. can not advise .
[22:35] <i-make-robots> ok, thanks.  last one: /var/log/apache2, are all contents owned by the same user/group?
[22:35] <i-make-robots> i have root:adm for everything in /var/log/apache2 atm.
[22:37] <rubiksmomo_> baserunner_: Black login screen, but I can access terminal
[22:37] <rubiksmomo_> Hope it will connect to WiFi
[22:38] <Slade> did CUDA support die at 14.10 ?
[22:38] <de-facto> Rubiksmomo for some nvidia-current wouldnt work correctly on xenial, those needed at least nvidia-340
[22:39] <de-facto> rubiksmomo_  ^^
[22:39] <rubiksmomo_> 14.04.4 LTS
[22:41] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Black login screen, but I can access terminal
[22:41] <rubiksmomo_> Oh, there's a login screen now, that took a while
[22:42] <leonarth> is it normal to see a process: ./x86_64 running?
[22:43] <Wulf> leonarth: no
[22:43] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: I think it's fixed somehow. Thank you for your effort! :o
[22:43] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: Now that BumbleeBee is no longer in the picture, how about we purge and re-install ... I am torn as Nvidia recommends 361 but the system recommends 364 .. What do you think ?
[22:43] <leonarth> Wulf when I try to kill it, says that the process doesn't exist
[22:44] <Wulf> leonarth: how do you kill i?
[22:44] <leonarth> killall -9 x86_64
[22:44] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Better not to touch anything right now as it works? =D Dunno why the login screen kept me waiting so long though.
[22:44] <i-make-robots> Bashing-om thank you, probably human thing!
[22:44] <Wulf> leonarth: try using the pid. Or first check what that is, ls -l /proc/<...>/exe
[22:44] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: Yeah fixed >>> cleanup ? How stable was your system before the driver issue ?
[22:44] <leonarth> Wulf I tried that, says it doesn't exist
[22:45] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: Minecraft crashed a lot when using the X.Org
[22:46] <rubiksmomo_> Bashing-om: So how should I clean it up?
[22:46] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: Try Minecraft now .. cleanup can be risky on an unstable system !
[22:47] <leonarth> Wulf https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fu2lqdhs8n644j/Screenshot%202016-04-28%2000.47.30.png?dl=0
[22:49] <Wulf> leonarth: doesn't work
[22:49] <leonarth> Wulf what, the link?
[22:49] <Wulf> why on earth is it so hard to upload stuff to a simple http server?
[22:50] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo_: I like to keep things clean behind me .. in ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' see all those packages marked 'rc' .. be good to get rid of the cruft .. but there is no way to be specific about it .
[22:50] <leonarth> Wulf because that way it's automatic, you just screenshot and you insta get the link
[22:50] <leonarth> uploading to imgur
[22:50] <Wulf> leonarth: imgur would work
[22:51] <leonarth> Wulf http://imgur.com/1p5bmGE
[22:51] <Wulf> leonarth: https://i.imgur.com/1p5bmGE.png
[22:51] <leonarth> :)
[22:52] <Wulf> leonarth: so it does exist. ls -lL
[22:53] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, Definite FPS boost. Not sure about the stability, but looking good so far. Do you think I should still play with the drivers or something?
[22:53] <Wulf> leonarth: and ls -l /proc/2657/root
[22:53] <Wulf> leonarth: maybe cat /proc/2657/exe > ~/strangeprogram
[22:54] <leonarth> what what do I do with that output saved?
[22:54] <Wulf> leonarth: upload the file somewhere
[22:55] <Wulf> (not dropbox)
[22:55] <leonarth> can't the VM has been disconnected from the network :)
[22:55] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: If it ain't broke, let's not fix it . If you think the system is stable ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' to remove ALL pieces that the system "thinks" is orphaned .
[22:56] <Wulf> leonarth: did you even get the file?
[22:56] <leonarth> only console access
[22:56] <squinty> wput
[22:56] <Wulf> leonarth: maybe you can access the file from the host
[22:56] <rubiksmomo> Let's see if I can break something
[22:57] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Fingers crossed .
[22:57] <rubiksmomo> ^_^
[22:57] <TomLee> anyone knows what kind of keyboard is displayed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet ??
[22:57] <Wulf> TomLee: no
[22:57] <leonarth> need to ask digitalocean to put the server in quarantine and from there mount the disk via NFS
[22:58] <rizi> so my vlc just stoped renderding video properly meaning it cant do hardware assceleration, i was working fine before.
[22:59] <krambiorix> hi, when i run /etc/init.d/sendmail restart  i get "Failed!"
[22:59] <rizi> initally it was not even playing any video but then after some trubleshoot i figure out it cant do hardware assceleration
[23:00] <krambiorix> then i run systemctl status sendmail.service and i get    Failed to start LSB: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent.
[23:00] <krambiorix> what can i do?
[23:01] <rubiksmomo> OK, let's try to reboot
[23:02] <carlf> Anyone have any idea how an apt-get install would cause a package to uninstall? Log here: http://pastebin.com/4gbWCnKV
[23:02] <rubiksmomo> maybe first: apt-get autoremove
[23:02] <nolsen> carlf: Are you using -proposed packages?
[23:04] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo_: Let's hold off on 'autoremove' .. one thing at a time . see how the 'rc' removal went .
[23:04] <krambiorix> sendmail -v hangs...
[23:05] <carlf> nolsen: We're not using any -proposed packages.
[23:06] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Black login screen again. Last time I it started to work after waiting.
[23:07] <sine0> I have had a browser issue in 15.10 since i installed... ive tried so many things. its as if the browser traffic is going through a proxy which causes a bottle kneck, restarting the browser and pasting the link it gets the site straight away
[23:07] <sine0> Im using firefox
[23:07] <krambiorix> anyone?
[23:08] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Maybe I should boot recovery again and do something?
[23:09] <MoPac> Hello. I'm experiencing a somewhat debilitating GPU hang in i915 / drm [Ubuntu 16.04] (makes LibreOffice unusable - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1575301) .I'm wondering if there is anything practical I can do to gather additional information or get eyes on it beyond what's on Launchpad.
[23:09] <MoPac> 've assumed filing a duplicate report upstream might create inconvenience / confusion. I assume it would be a further mistake to do that without building the upstream stack from source. And I'm not entirely confident that I know what I'm doing in terms of building/installing all those packages and then knowing how to purge them after testing (checkinstall...?) Any advice would be very welcome.
[23:10] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: I think reinstall the driver and nvida-prime . Will have to remount the file system if from recovery .
[23:12] <thinksecret> ...
[23:13] <de-facto> leonarth you can copy base64 from the console and reconstruct the binary on another machine: cat strangefile | base64   copy that paste it into a file and then cat strangefile.base64  |  base64 --decode > strangefile
[23:13] <rubiksmomo> login loop @ recovery mode
[23:13] <Edgan> MoPac: what generation of processor?
[23:13] <de-facto> leonarth but dont "infect" other machines if its malicious :Ü
[23:14] <leonarth> de-facto can't copy from a web console window :(
[23:14] <leonarth> but even if I get that file, what do you do with it?
[23:14] <de-facto> analyze what bad things it was capable of doing?
[23:14] <leonarth> ooo, sounds very cool :)
[23:14] <de-facto> some files only exist in ram
[23:14] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: If you do not flag me with my nick a great chance I will not see you . did you de-crupt the disk ?
[23:15] <MoPac> Edgan: It's an  i7-4510U (  Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller)
[23:15] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Yeah, I'm in recovery mode & terminal
[23:15] <Apachez> so noob question... how do I find out which apt repo is it thats causing this when I run "apt-get update" on 15.10 today?   There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 1397BC53640DB551
[23:15] <bekks> Apachez: So show us the entire output in a pastebin.
[23:15] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: "sudo apt-get purge nvidia*" ?
[23:16] <OerHeks> Apachez, most of the times that error occurs when the mirror is out of sync, wait a few minutes or change mirror in softwaresources
[23:16] <Apachez> the thing is, I dont know which mirror
[23:16] <Apachez> there are plenty of repos being checked
[23:16] <qu3n3l> hi
[23:17] <Apachez> bekks: http://pastebin.com/ahRFYAXj
[23:17] <leonarth> de-facto seems that I got exploited via Postgres, ubuntu package comes with version 9.3
[23:18] <leonarth> which has a remote code execution vulnerability
[23:18] <glooby> Hey guys, can I update the kernel to 4.4.8 in Xenial?
[23:18] <de-facto> leonarth hmm how did they got in postgres? was it reachable via network? injected into php?
[23:19] <bekks> Apachez: Wow.
[23:19] <debrisrat> Hi!!
[23:19] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: ' mount -o remount,rw / ' . ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ; sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sydo apt install nvidia-364 nvidia-prime ; sudo nvidia-xconfig ' .
[23:19] <de-facto> leonarth you need to find out what happened and fix that otherwise they just repeat it and have your server again
[23:19] <leonarth> yeah it was reachable for a few hours as I forgot to turn on `ufw`
[23:19] <qu3n3l> wassup
[23:20] <de-facto> leonarth dont use firewalls, rather config it so it only listend on localhost
[23:20] <leonarth> I blocked all ports via ufw, changes all passwords allowed access only via RSA key
[23:20] <de-facto> use nmap to see what ports are open
[23:20] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: sydo/sudo **
[23:20] <Apachez> bekks: sooo?
[23:20] <leonarth> will update psql as soon as I get network access again
[23:20] <rubiksmomo> ^_^
[23:20] <de-facto> leonarth if they were on the server and had some remote access they could have altered everything...
[23:21] <Edgan> Bashing-om: where is nvidia-364 coming from?
[23:21] <bekks> Apachez: You are experiencing a warning. You are using a lot of PPA. Whats the issue? :)
[23:21] <docktard> hey everyone...is there a more suitable channel for newbs to ask stuff or is it ok here?
[23:21] <Bashing-om> Edgan: Our trusted PPA .
[23:22] <Bashing-om> docktard: Ask here ,, we are not partial .
[23:22] <leonarth> de-facto if they got in through the postgres, they had only posgres user access not root
[23:22] <docktard> I am having a brainlock regarding putting folders in docky
[23:22] <Apachez> bekks: the last line
[23:22] <Edgan> Bashing-om: link?
[23:22] <docktard> I have a xubuntu laptop I havent turned on in a while...and I can't recall how I got it set up
[23:22] <carlf> It seems like we updated openjdk, which mesos depends on. Mesos was uninstalled at the same time. This is unexpected as mesos was explicitly installed.
[23:22] <Apachez> "There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 1397BC53640DB551"
[23:22] <Apachez> searching on google give me 0 results
[23:22] <Apachez> not every day you see that on google nowadays =)
[23:23] <de-facto> leonarth hmm if that process did run as postgres user, but maybe they could have used another exploit to escalate privs? who knows what 0days are on the marked right now
[23:23] <docktard> I have tried to replicate how I had docky set up but keep screwing it up in the same way I screwed it up the first time...only now I cant remember how I fixed it
[23:23] <leonarth> de-facto finally got remote access to the server! where do I put that file?
[23:23] <NoahRDR> Hey all! I'm currently a tech manager at a college radio station, and I need some help troubleshooting some shit with crontab if anyone's down.
[23:23] <bekks> Apachez: It is a warning, not an error.
[23:24] <de-facto> leonarth how big is it?
[23:24] <docktard> I am trying to put a documents folder in the dock..when I drag and drop it from home it moves it rather than links a shortcut...if I duplicate the documents folder and do the sme it doesn't work either
[23:24] <Bashing-om> Edgan: Use with caution ... https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .  Still in login loop. Should I reboot?
[23:27] <de-facto> leonarth you can use debsums but that does not guarantee anything really
[23:27] <leonarth> hmm, verify the md5 hash of all binaries against ubuntu packages?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> Edgan: No .. the 364 driver is a Nvidia graphic's card thing .
[23:28] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Yeah .. reboot to see the effect .
[23:28] <de-facto> leonarth out of interest can you upload that file somewhere?
[23:28] <jajaja> to install gnome on ubuntu.. its just apt-get install gnome?
[23:28] <Edgan> Bashing-om: I know 364 is nvidia. I have been running nvidia cards for 10+ years.
[23:28] <leonarth> de-facto sure
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Edgan: Sorry, then I do not comprehend what you lasr ask of me .
[23:29] <Bashing-om> last*
[23:30] <docktard> can anyone help me with docky/xfce?
[23:30] <docktard> or suggest a channel for such things?
[23:30] <de-facto> leonarth also before you delete anything, you should try to understand what happened and how to prevent it. not sure if a forensic backup could help with any legal issues, just a heads up
[23:30] <bekks> docktard: How do we know without a specific issue?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> !patience | docktard
[23:30] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: still black login screen with normal boot and unresponsive to ctrl+alt+F1
[23:31] <docktard> ubottu I have googled for hours...can't find the solution..I didn't want to spam it over and over
[23:31] <docktard> lol
[23:31] <docktard> i am an idiot
[23:31] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: 361 version driver ? BUT was working once on 364 ??
[23:32] <leonarth> de-facto debsums --change shows nothing and --all shows everything as OK
[23:32] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Yeah, it was weird. It was like this for a minute maybe and then started to work.
[23:32] <de-facto> leonarth but it does not cover all files, they messed with configs and such, really unfortunately you cant trust that system anymore, sorry.
[23:32] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Something else is going on .. have a long read in the system logs ?
[23:33] <de-facto> leonarth if you are sure they messed with root privelegues on your box, everything is possible
[23:33] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Could you copy-paste those commands again and maybe I'll try 361?
[23:33] <leonarth> ./etc/sudoers                                                              FAILED
[23:33] <bekks> leonarth: I've not read the entire backlog - why do you thing you've been exploited?
[23:33] <docktard> Bashing I am new to IRC as well as Linux...how to best ask the questions since it's not a single ling question?
[23:33] <docktard> I don't want to spam it over and over
[23:33] <leonarth> yes bekks through postgres 9.3 remote code execution vuln
[23:33] <bekks> docktard: Question are one sentence, ended by a question mark. No word limit :)
[23:34] <docktard> Well I mean it's more than one question...and don't want to type it over and over and over
[23:34] <bekks> leonarth: Thats not an answer to me. Which signs of being exploited did you notice?
[23:34] <Vonologic> Can someone tell me how I can go about getting proper Bluetooth drivers
[23:35] <Bashing-om> docktard: Protocal is if no response in 20 minutes .. ask again , there is also a decicated channel for xfce .. #xfce .
[23:35] <leonarth> bekks there was this weird ./x86_64 program running
[23:35] <bekks> leonarth: Define "weird".
[23:35] <docktard> ok...thanks. if I recall it's not an xfce specific problem...but I will try there too
[23:35] <leonarth> bekks and CloudOcean disconnected my server from the network due to high traffic
[23:36] <jeremy31> Vonologic: Please ask a question at ubuntuforums.org in the hardware forum as it may take some time
[23:36] <bekks> leonarth: Define "weird".
[23:37] <de-facto> leonarth are you 100% sure there is no other explanation (as another "legal" user who could have caused this, or yourself): <leonarth> and yeah de-facto the /root/.ssh/authorized_keys file was a mess, so they managed to escalate to root
[23:37] <bekks> leonarth: And in case you were exploited, I am wondering why you a) did not shutdown that box already, b) took an entire backup for investigation before, c) did not reinstall that box already.
[23:38] <leonarth> because I'd like to try and recover it :)
[23:38] <metabsd> Ubuntu 16.04 is stable ?
[23:38] <bekks> metabsd: Yes.
[23:39] <bekks> leonarth: you can recover from b)
[23:39] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Yeah .. lemme scroll up and find them .
[23:39] <anticitizen> define stable
[23:39] <bekks> anticitizen: released.
[23:39] <anticitizen> ehh.
[23:39] <metabsd> If I want to use it I will have some stability problem ? I heard some instability on some forum etc..
[23:40] <bekks> metabsd: It is released and supported for 5 years.
[23:40] <anticitizen> i'd argue that no distro is ever purely 'stable', otherwise we'd only update to get new features
[23:40] <Bashing-om>  Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: ' mount -o remount,rw / ' . ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ; sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sydo apt install nvidia-364 nvidia-prime ; sudo
[23:40] <Bashing-om>                     nvidia-xconfig '
[23:40] <bekks> metabsd: if unsure, use 14.04, which is supported until 2019.
[23:40] <SegFaultAX> Anyone know how I can find the source repository for the openjdk-r ppa? (https://launchpad.net/~openjdk-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa)
[23:40] <bekks> anticitizen: I am not taking that discussion, since released version are considered being stable.
[23:41] <anticitizen> fair enough. but I wouldn't update to 16.04 if I had an AMD graphics card...
[23:41] <anticitizen> but that's AMD's fault, not Ubuntu
[23:42] <Bashing-om> ATI is working real hard to give us what we asked for .. inkernel driver like Intel provides to us .
[23:42] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Why is /etc/X11/xorg.conf missing? I created it before reboot...
[23:42] <de-facto> SegFaultAX "apt-get source <package>" if you use that ppa otherwise use View Package Details and the arrow before your package on the website
[23:42] <OerHeks> SegFaultAX, i think that restricted team uses the normal sourcecode > http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk8/
[23:42] <leonarth> de-facto as per your request: https://www.sendspace.com/file/irarqi
[23:43] <OerHeks> SegFaultAX, else contact the maintainer of that ppa
[23:43] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Hummm ... a good question ,, the config file gets replaced when switching to Intel .
[23:43] <SegFaultAX> Well I want to look at recent changes in how they're managing packaging.
[23:44] <SegFaultAX> So I need the source *and* the commit history
[23:44] <de-facto> leonarth thanks :) really you should follow what bekks (and i said it too, maybe not that clearly) suggested
[23:47] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Right, it only disappears when I do a normal boot
[23:47] <de-facto> leonarth yup thats a backdoor: https://www.virustotal.com/de/file/deefe93405d5dc62b8b8844981b9c2a4e8ab51614f930729f4830c7248c92d97/analysis/1461800781/
[23:47] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: are you presently booting wuth Nvidia ? If we were to re-generate the xorg.conf file .. recon it will persist a reboot ?
[23:48] <leonarth> 25 backdoors? :)
[23:48] <leonarth> seems that Gafgyt is the most common name
[23:49] <de-facto> leonarth a) shutdown b) full backup c) clean install (avoiding what caused them to get into your box this time)
[23:49] <leonarth> between AVs
[23:51] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: yeah, xorg.conf persists if I reboot to recovery mode but disappears if I do a normal boot
[23:51] <dannymichel> I've noticed that minimizing Wine applications makes them disappear. They don't stay in the 'dock(for lack of a better known word)'
[23:51] <dannymichel> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/ubuntu-11-04-fix-show-all-iconsindicators-in-unity-panels-notification-area/ that doesnt work anymore
[23:52] <leonarth> de-facto shouldn't they update the postgres package to v9.4 now that the 9.3 remote code execution vulnerability is out?
[23:52] <docktard> ok sorted some of the problem
[23:52] <docktard> still need help getting an applications folder to work properly
[23:52] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: That is way above ny skill level ,, Something is removing it ! not ubuntu ... Minecraft ?
[23:53] <effectnet> hello what do you use for wallpaper desktop slideshow?
[23:53] <bekks> leonarth: Did you notice ANY signs of that vuln actually being used to intrude your box?
[23:53] <h3ctic> anyone here successfully configure nginx1.10, php7.0-fpm on ubuntu 16.04? please pm.. I need some help :)
[23:53] <bekks> leonarth: And who is "they"?
[23:53] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: Not Minecraft, I'm not even getting through the login screen as it's just black screen
[23:53] <rubiksmomo> the black screen eats the xorg.confg
[23:53] <bekks> leonarth: And why is your postgres reachable from the internet?
[23:53] <leonarth> bekks I don't know where to look but that's what digitalocean security staff told me it most probably is
[23:54] <leonarth> bekks it was reachable for an hour or so, forgot to turn on ufw to restrict access only for certain IPs
[23:54] <bekks> leonarth: So carry out a), b) and c).
[23:54] <leonarth> devs need to reach it remotely
[23:54] <bekks> leonarth: you misconfigured your postgres.
[23:54] <ilpollo> hi, i need the spanish chanel , thanks
[23:55] <docktard> I also have two "software & update" icons in /usr/share/applications...different sizes so not exact duplicates...does anyone know what that's about?
[23:55] <bekks> !es | ilpollo
[23:55] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: Above my skill level .. But that config file existing is a must .
[23:55] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: OK, thanks for your help
[23:55] <bekks> leonarth: And having a dev pulling a "select * from ..." will cause high traffic, too.
[23:56] <userone> hi
[23:56] <hinderaker> hi
[23:56] <de-facto> leonarth if you are sure they had root please dont think you can fix your box, rather do what bekks suggested
[23:57] <Bashing-om> rubiksmomo: I would like to keep involved . I do want to know . I jyst do not have the skills to find out . If it is even in a log file "somewhere" .
[23:57] <leonarth> alright guys, you've convinced me, thanks for the help de-facto and bekks
[23:57] <rubiksmomo> Bashing-om: right
[23:58] <rubiksmomo> Anyone knows what causes my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to disappear on normal boot (I get black login screen). It does remain in safe mode (I get login loop).
[23:58] <leonarth> bekks one thing though, if I backup and restore the postgres DB on a new box, could I move over the vulnerability with me?
[23:58] <_44trent3> how do I mark my USB as bootable in gparted?
[23:58] <de-facto> leonarth also you need to understand how they got in prevent it from happening again on a clean install
[23:58] <bekks> leonarth: Sure, by using a vulnerable postgres version.
[23:59] <bekks> _44trent3: you dont need to. It is up to your BIOS to boot it.
[23:59] <_44trent3> well, wouldn't it need a bootable flag? i'm going to burn a windows 7 iso on to it
[23:59] <anticitizen> rubiksmomo: check this out, might help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1310489
[23:59] <bekks> _44trent3: a bootable flag was needed 20 years ago.
[23:59] <leonarth> so I'll just make sure on the new box, 9.4 is installed manually instead of letting Ubuntu pkg manager put the vuln 9.3 by default
[23:59] <_44trent3> but...windows 7 isn't UEFI or something...
[23:59] <anticitizen> beat you by one second ubottu :)


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