[17:59] <tallyn> I'm having an issue booting off of the Live CD for Ubuntu 8.10
[17:59] <tallyn> any takers?


[21:33] <faibistes> Hi, is this the right place to ask for help with a nonfunctioning xwindows intel driver after an update to natty?
[22:50] <faibistes> Hello, can someone help about X not starting with the intel driver on a Mac Mini 1,1?


[00:49] <Checkmate> Hey i want make a backup of a folder
[00:49] <Checkmate> i want compress all folder with small size i dont know how to do it with 7zip
[01:29] <dpb1> 7z a filename.7z directory/path
[04:23] <eraserpencil> Hey guys
[04:24] <eraserpencil> Could someone share with me why an Nginx reverse proxy server coupled with an Apache web server is more popular than the vice versa?
[04:43] <halvors> Is there an recommended Web UI interface for LXD?
[04:44] <nacc> halvors: not afaik
[04:55] <halvors> Also when i create an LXD container in Ubuntu, i have to choose an image. Does the whole OS get runned inside like a VM?
[04:57] <nacc> halvors: no, there's no kernel
[04:58] <nacc> halvors: you may want to read the LXD documentation and/or the difference between containers and VMs
[05:02] <halvors> nacc: Thanks did that. But i wounder how i can run Ubuntu 16.04 inside the LXD container on the ubuntu 18.04 daily-build.
[05:03] <halvors> Do all the libraries etc exist on both the host and on the container?
[05:03] <halvors> I get that kernel is only on host.
[05:06] <nacc> halvors: you are runing a 16.04 userspace basically
[05:06] <nacc> (in the container)
[05:16] <chamar> playing with LXD too... fun so far.
[05:23] <halvors> nacc: Is there a way to only export the diff i'vem made to a container? So basically just files that i've changed?
[05:23] <chamar> I think there's a snapshot feature in LXD
[05:27] <jdr> is LXD a bare metal dilly?
[05:27] <jdr> or like vagrant?
[05:28] <nacc> jdr: LXD is a container hypervisor
[05:31] <halvors> chamar: That can be used to export only the diff?
[05:31] <chamar> halvors, My understand is that it will take a "snapshot" (an image at that point in time) to which you could revert back to.
[05:32] <halvors> chamar: Yeah, but what i was interested in was to get the diff from the initial image, to easily export my configuration.
[05:33] <chamar> halvors, gotcha.. no idea if such feature exists.. still having a first look at it too
[05:33] <halvors> :)
[05:33] <chamar> Reason being, my lab runs out of mem with standard VM :/
[05:36] <halvors> I see.
[05:36] <jdr> mind......blown
[05:36] <jdr> just watched a youtube vid on it
[05:37] <chamar> and what blown your mind?
[05:37] <jdr> they were doing simple creating of the vm's
[05:37] <jdr> I am use to hardware based vm's
[05:37] <jdr> not software
[05:38] <jdr> what is shared with the root container?
[05:39] <chamar> ressources for sure
[05:39] <chamar> you can limit the usage of your LXD container, but you don't have to assign how much memory you need for example
[05:41] <jdr> I would want to set a limit of how much the vm's could use....not so much on a per vm, but as a pool
[05:42] <chamar> I quote: We don’t support resource limits pooling where a limit would be shared by a group of containers, there is simply no good way to implement something like that with the existing kernel APIs.
[05:43] <chamar> Link: https://stgraber.org/2016/03/26/lxd-2-0-resource-control-412/
[05:43] <halvors> How can i upgrade a container from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04. Is there an elegant way to do that?
[05:44] <chamar> Never did it, but probably do-release-upgrade would works
[05:44] <chamar> (same as a standard VM / bare metal install)
[05:54] <halvors> chamar: Yeah, but what about the metadata then?
[06:04] <chamar> metadata?
[06:09] <chamar> halvors, https://github.com/lxc/lxd/issues/3874
[06:10] <halvors> Anyone knows why sudo "snap install conjure-up --classic" is not working? cannot run the command afterwards.
[06:11] <chamar> try to logout / login maybe?
[06:11] <chamar> (had mixed result with conjure-up so didn't had a deep look into it)
[06:13] <halvors> chamar: Thanks.
[06:14] <chamar> np
[06:21] <chamar> btw, I just updated a LXD container with `do-release-update` and it seems to work fine.
[06:31] <halvors> chamar: But what about the metadata, does it update automagically?
[06:31] <chamar> halvors, What do you mean by metadata?
[06:31] <halvors> chamar: do "lxc info "containername"
[06:31] <halvors> or config
[06:32] <halvors> dont remember.
[06:32] <halvors> But it says what version of ubuntu it is.
[06:32] <chamar> let me see
[06:33] <chamar> lxc info doesn't give anything related to the image / version
[06:33] <halvors> You may be right, i cannot se the version.
[06:33] <halvors> Yeah.
[06:33] <halvors> Thanks, so basically just like any other vm then :)
[06:34] <chamar> not sure if it keeps tracks of it .. but I get what you mean by metadata now ;)
[06:36] <chamar> hum. I think it will only how the "BASE IMAGE", which is the initial image..
[06:37] <chamar> I'm out.  good night all.
[06:47] <halvors> good night :)
[11:55] <tekk> are ubuntu dev's aware that when unattended upgrades is turned on /boot can become full pretty quickly and you get into a terrible apt cycle of not being able to resolve the issue without manual intervention?
[12:16] <ikonia> boot can become full if you dont size it appropriately
[12:16] <ikonia> it's up to you to either a.) size your file system in line with your needs b.) put house keeping in place
[12:22] <tekk> i'm aware
[12:22] <tekk> but
[12:22] <tekk> i'm assuming unattended upgrades is popular with people who want no fuss and go with default partitioning schema etc
[12:22] <tekk> in which case they'll be upside down
[12:29] <andol> Was a while since I ran the server iso installer, but isn't the recommended choice (if you want no fuss) to just go with one big partition?
[12:33] <ikonia> I'm not aware of the default partition table having a seperate /boot
[13:07] <tomreyn> ikonia: i think it does when you choose automatic partitioning with lvm, or with lvm and dmcrypt-luks
[13:13] <ikonia> it has to if you chose crypt
[13:13] <ikonia> or it can't boot
[13:14] <ikonia> but....if you chose cyrpt you should have a basic enough understanding to be able to manage your box in the event of automated upgrades
[13:25] <phormulate> hey all, using xenial, and it has this tendancy to overwrite my /etc/network/interfaces... I have no network manager installed and it is driving me nuts trying to find the application modifying it, any ideas?
[13:26] <TJ-> phormulate: when does the file get written to, and what gets written into it?
[13:27] <phormulate> at boot, just a standard dhcp of interfaces/alias
[13:29] <TJ-> phormulate: are you sure it's not the other way around, as in it's returning to a default file because any changes you made weren't permanently written to the underlying device?
[13:30] <TJ-> phormulate: is it Bare Metal or a Virtual Machine ?
[13:30] <phormulate> vps, rolled it using debootstrap
[13:30] <phormulate> rw root
[13:31] <phormulate> I'm not used to ubuntu's general conventions, but hell, I needed an easier route to lxd than debian offered at the time
[13:31] <TJ-> what kind of VPS? KVM with full disk boot process (boots  raw disk image containing a boot loader) ?
[13:31] <ikonia> nothing will touch /etc/network/interface file
[13:32] <TJ-> phormulate: LXD? so this is a container not a VM then
[13:33] <phormulate> the ubuntu is on the vps "metal" mentioning lxd isn't helpful, let
[13:33] <phormulate> 's forget I said lxd
[13:33] <ikonia> it does matter though
[13:33] <TJ-> phormulate: I matters very much; is this an LXD container ?
[13:34] <phormulate> xenial running on vps as host to a few lxd containers... lxd does nothing to alter my /etc/networking/interfaces
[13:34] <phormulate> yes, kvm
[13:35] <ikonia> nothing "should" touch that file, however a container, with an isolated file system being fed from the hosts services it does matter
[13:35] <phormulate> ubuntu is not running within a container, it is running under kvm
[13:35] <ikonia> so you're running a VM guest, thats running containers under it
[13:35] <phormulate> yes
[13:36] <phormulate> it is very odd, because it doesn't always get wiped on reboot
[13:37] <TJ-> phormulate: check it's persistent; look at the "ephemeral:" value with "lxc config show <name>"
[13:38] <phormulate> tj, lxc/d has no part of modifying my ubuntu setup
[13:38] <tomreyn> ikonia: responding to your statement that you cannot have FDE without /boot: well you could do this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#Encrypted_boot_partition_.28GRUB.29 (and then /boot can just reside on / if you don't need LVM)
[13:39] <tomreyn> (you'd still need a plain ESP / biosboot)
[13:39] <ikonia> tomreyn: that's not supported on ubuntu's installer though
[13:39] <TJ-> You can have  /boot/ as LUKS+LVM, or LVM+LUKS
[13:40] <tomreyn> right ikonia
[13:40] <phormulate> another wonderful gem I ran in to, systemd "Error on shutdown: Failed deactivating swap"
[16:03] <rh10> guys, what's the best way to install php 7.1 to 16.04 LTS?
[16:06] <ikonia> 7.1 isn't in the repos is it ?
[16:07] <ikonia> I thought it was 7.0
[16:08] <TJ-> rh10: I'd suggest creating a 17.10 container (using LXD) where you can easily install it
[16:08] <rh10> ikonia, yep, there is 7.0 in the repo
[16:08] <rh10> ikonia, there is no 7.1 in official repo
[16:10] <rh10> TJ-, got it. can i work with it as a localhost? i mean - files will be in my local system
[16:10] <rh10> ?
[16:13] <TJ-> rh10: LXD is treated like an /almost/ virtual machine (but shares kernel with host), so you could install a web server and edit a site /inside/ the container and connect to it's HTTP server on port 80 - the container will have an IP address
[16:14] <rh10> TJ-, got it, thanks!
[16:14] <TJ-> rh10: so you can do "lxc launch ubuntu:17.10 mycontainername"
[16:15] <TJ-> rh10: then "lxc start mycontainername" then to get a shell inside it "lxc exec mycontainername /bin/bash"
[16:16] <TJ-> rh10: at whch point you use all the regular package management commands, e.g. "apt install php7.1 apache2 ..."
[16:16] <rh10> TJ-, quite cool! thx!
[16:16] <TJ-> rh10: and if you want to you can map a host file-system directory into the container to make editing the files on the host transparent to there being a container
[16:19] <TJ-> rh10: this next step is not quite correct for sharing but gives you a clue what to research: 'lxc config device add mycontainername sharedtmp disk path=/path/to/share/in/guest source=/path/to/share/from/host'
[16:19] <TJ-> rh10: there's some permissions issues to deal with for the above share command to work correctly (with unprivileged containers)
[16:19] <rh10> TJ-, awesome!
[16:21] <rh10> TJ-, another question here. which way better to deploy code from such kind of container to external webserver into the internet?
[16:21] <rh10> how to handle it correctly?
[16:22] <TJ-> rh10: well, if you're sharing a host directory which you're mapping into the container web-server's document root, then you'd just copy the host's directory heirachy to the other server
[16:23] <TJ-> rh10: e.g. if you're mapping $HOME/public_html to container's /var/www/  then you'd just rsync/zip $HOME/public_html
[16:24] <rh10> TJ-, got it. but can i use git in container? or how can i add git repo in that scheme?
[16:24] <TJ-> rh10:  or if using git for version control, you can set up your external server as a git remote and use 'git push external'
[16:24] <rh10> TJ-, thanks a lot for support!
[16:24] <TJ-> rh10: in my example $HOME/public_html would be your git base dir
[23:14] <phibs> got an issue where i'm creating an ubuntu 18 initrd with debirf and when it does unxz | cpio -i, cpio is NOT extracting /sbin/init even though it is in the archive.  Anyone seen anything like this ?


[02:47] <ScottK> Riddell: re owncloud, get a patch for the security issue and then put 4/4.5 in backports.  Removing 3.0 wouldn't help the people that already have it installed.
[12:57] <Riddell> ScottK: I suspect there isn't a patch, I can check but I'm pretty sure upstream would just say upgrade to the new version
[13:00] <ScottK> Maybe get a pointer to a commit and we can figure it out.
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:16] <c2tarun> hey guys sorry for asking this question here, but I asked in every channel and nobody was able to help me :( my enery star is getting reset to Standby: 48    Suspend: 72    Off: 96 no matter how many times I change it disable it or anything. I am facing this problem since many days, can anyone please help?
[14:23] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: energy what
[14:24] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: that dpms (Display power Management System) try runing xset -q and look at the bottom
[14:28] <shadeslayer> absolutely no idea what this is
[14:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://uwg.kde.org/user-survey/ < might be useful to put this in #kubuntu's topic
[14:31] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: :( by the way, can you please pastebin your  output of xset -q?
[14:32] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: http://paste.kde.org/559886
[14:35] <shadeslayer> SteveRiley_: http://uwg.kde.org/user-survey/ < Possibly post in Kubuntu Forums?
[15:19] <shadeslayer> anyone working on 4.9.2?
[15:20] <shadeslayer> on a related note, can I make the ninjas ppa depend on kubuntu backports?
[15:24] <yofel> rather not, better copy what you need
[15:25] <shadeslayer> in which case, please don't delete precise packages from ninjas
[17:49] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: did you blink last night?
[18:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: go for it
[21:51] <micahg> i
[21:51] <micahg> oops
[23:03] <SteveRiley_> shadeslayer: thanks for the tip. will do


[03:15] <cjohnston> do be do
[16:32] <mhall119> nigelb: cjohnston: james_w: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/rest-api/+merge/75859
[16:39] <nigelb> mhall119: heh, just saw that
[16:40] <nigelb> mhall119: Did you see lyz is doing a career day today?
[17:23] <mhall119> nigelb: yeah
[17:26] <mhall119> nigelb: cjohnston: james_w: got another one for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/personal-ical/+merge/75860
[17:28] <mhall119> and with that, I'm calling it a day
[17:28] <mhall119> nigelb: would you be able to figure out which bugs we've fixed since last UDS?
[17:29] <nigelb> Yeah
[17:29] <nigelb> mhall119: Can you blog?
[17:29] <nigelb> I'll mail it to ya
[17:33] <mhall119> yeah, I'm going to blog about our summit progress, and I'd like to include that list
[17:47] <mhall119> thanks nigelb
[17:47] <nigelb> :)
[17:50] <mhall119> 33 bug fixes, not bad
[17:50] <mhall119> that doesn't even count the numer of things that we did without a bug #
[17:50] <nigelb> I'm going run a lint.
[17:50] <mhall119> be careful
[17:50] <nigelb> mhall119: check merges as well.
[17:50] <mhall119> lint just might punch you in the face when it sees it
[17:50] <nigelb> haha
[17:50] <nigelb> Entirely possible.
[17:51] <nigelb> Or it might say "LOL"
[17:53] <nigelb> mhall119: OH GOD.
[17:56] <mhall119> I'm guessing it was closer to a punch in the face than "LOL"
[17:56] <nigelb> It punched me.
[17:57] <nigelb> let me do somethign like what launchpad does
[17:57] <nigelb> fix lint for files you modify
[17:57] <nigelb> so, slowly, we'll get there.
[17:59] <nigelb> Hrm. This may be hard.
[18:00] <mhall119> 68 merges
[18:00] <mhall119> yeah, I'm not overly concerned about lint
[18:00] <mhall119> for new files it might be a good requirement
[18:01] <nigelb> mhall119: I'll try and fix them all in an MP.
[18:03] <mhall119> all?
[18:03] <mhall119> I'd suggest one MP per file
[18:03] <mhall119> it'll be easier for us to review
[18:05] <nigelb> one MP per file?
[18:05] <nigelb> woah.
[18:05] <nigelb> that's goign to be hard.
[18:05] <nigelb> I can do one MP per app.
[18:06] <mhall119> there's only 2 apps
[18:06] <nigelb> Yeah :D
[18:06] <mhall119> http://paste.ubuntu.com/691741/ anything else I should mention in my blog?
[18:06] <mhall119> nigelb: I just don't want a 4000 line MP
[18:07] <nigelb> It won't be that long, don't worry :)
[18:07] <nigelb> mhall119: You will clean up the formatting right?
[18:07] <mhall119> I'm betting it'll be close
[18:07] <nigelb> like put it into a table, eetc
[18:07] <mhall119> nigelb: yes, that's just a quick dump of what I want to mention
[18:07] <mhall119> I'm also hoping to be able to mention my 2 new MPs (hint, hint)
[18:08] <nigelb> :)
[18:15] <mhall119> one more MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/fix-test-site_root/+merge/75862
[18:16] <mhall119> 63 test cases, and with the above MP they all pass
[18:21] <nigelb> mhall119: I get what you mean
[18:21] <nigelb> this is going to be long lints
[18:21] <nigelb> so I'll fix a few propose an MP. fix a fwe more and propose another MP.
[18:38] <mhall119> sounds good
[18:38] <james_w> mhall119, 237	+ key.update(str(self.pk))
[18:38] <james_w> 238	+ key.update(self.user.username)
[18:39] <james_w> why did you want to have those in the md5?
[18:39] <mhall119> james_w: just to add more to the hash than just a random number
[18:40] <mhall119> overkill?
[18:41] <james_w> I think the only thing it protects against is recycling the RNG seed
[18:42] <james_w> if, say, every request had the same seed then every user would get the same key without that
[18:42] <james_w> but aside from that I don't think it contributes much
[18:42] <james_w> but it doesn't hurt either
[18:42] <nigelb> When does the md5 get generated?
[18:43] <nigelb> Every login?
[18:43] <nigelb> (I just confused after I commented)
[18:43] <mhall119> nigelb: the first time Attendee.get_secret_key is called
[18:43] <james_w> all three approved
[18:43] <nigelb> james_w: You, sir, are courageous. Cleaning up render.py is not an easy task :)
[18:44] <mhall119> james_w: you'll have to update your MP for the Schedule.__init__ cleanup to add the show_private that I added
[18:44] <james_w> yeah
[18:45] <james_w> nigelb, yours is approved as well now
[18:45] <nigelb> Thanks!
[18:45]  * nigelb runs tarmac
[18:48] <james_w> mhall119, merged, and test added
[18:57] <mhall119> http://ec2-50-16-76-22.compute-1.amazonaws.com/ has been updated to trunk
[18:58] <mhall119> the personal ical is going to be much nicer
[18:58] <mhall119> who manages the bots for UDS, anybody know?
[18:58] <nigelb> mhall119: tsimppson
[19:04] <mhall119> now I just need to write API docs
[19:04] <mhall119> nigelb: would it be appropriate to add the API doc to your rtd stuff?
[19:07] <nigelb> mhall119: Yes, please go ahead
[19:11] <nigelb> james_w: what do you think abuot setting up bzr pipes for lint checking? (like launchpad)
[19:11] <james_w> pipes?
[19:12] <nigelb> bzr pipe plugin
[19:19] <mhall119> nigelb: if you make committing dependent on passing a lint test, I swear to god I'm leaving the project
[19:19] <nigelb> mhall119: lol, not commiting.
[19:20] <nigelb> What it does is, lints the files you make changes
[19:20] <nigelb> But only those files
[19:20] <nigelb> So, like our testing infrastructure, we can slowly improve
[19:21] <nigelb> so, if you branch and touch 5 files, it will only lint those. Once you commit and touch one file. Before the next commit it will only lint one file. Onc you commit - all 6 files.
[19:43] <james_w> https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/summit/test-render.py-2/+merge/75870


[00:10] <ompaul> as said in channel at that time <elky> @mark wobblywu is currently muted in -ot for failing to heed a request to cease a topic, then for arguing, and then for mocking. the topic has little to do with it. he is to apologise before the mute is lifted.
[00:11]  * ompaul suggests strongly to wobblywu to actually talk with jrib or do as the topic for the channel points out and not idle
[00:30] <wobblywu> sorry about that, my mind easily wanders at these hours
[00:30] <wobblywu> I did cease the topic (although I did not break any rules when discussing said topic), I did not argue, nor did I mock
[00:31] <wobblywu> and I find the idea of having to apologize highly unusual, and nothing more than an attempt to humiliate me
[00:32] <wobblywu> I believe punishment should be relative to the severity of the 'crime', and I doubt many ops would disagree with that
[00:33] <wobblywu> I was initially warned for "glorifying the nazis", which I did not even in the slightest bit do
[00:33] <wobblywu> I tried to explain that which was then taken as "arguing"
[00:33] <wobblywu> and eventually decided to give up and tried to get everything on a positive note again (by pointing out it was international freedom day yesterday, which it was) -- which was somehow taken as "mocking"
[00:34] <wobblywu> and for it I was indefinitely banned, apparently
[00:41] <wobblywu> jrib, see above, please :)
[00:47] <PriceChild> elkbuntu: around? elky_work
[01:03] <PriceChild> !o4o
[01:04] <PriceChild> wobblywu: Conversations including the above topics are frowned up on in ubuntu channels because of the way they usually end up.
[01:05] <wobblywu> PriceChild, i'm quite aware of that
[01:06] <wobblywu> PriceChild, all I did was point out Donald Duck once joined the nazi army in a Disney cartoon in 1941, in response to someone saying most Disney cartoons fought the nazis back then
[01:06] <PriceChild> wobblywu: But hopefully we can all move on. Its really not important is it at the end of the day?
[01:06] <wobblywu> absolutely is not important at all :)
[01:06] <wobblywu> I wholeheartedly agree
[01:06] <wobblywu> but i'm still banned in the channel because of it
[01:07] <wobblywu> so I can't quite move on just yet ;)
[01:08] <PriceChild> wobblywu: I'm going to lift the mute. I think its best we all try to keep away from dodgy ground listed in !o4o, and of course please take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:11] <wobblywu> thanks for listening -- i'll be parting now, no idling and whatnot :)
[01:33] <PriceChild> Had a nice chat with Hobbsee and feel much better.
[01:34] <Pici> Thats good
[01:40] <Tm_T> feeling better sounds nice, would like to have that too
[01:40] <Tm_T> anyway, back to bed I guess ->
[01:46] <_Zeus_> I think there should be a command !top
[01:47] <_Zeus_> (in reference to the command top)
[01:47] <_Zeus_> !search top
[01:47] <jrib> _Zeus_: suggest something
[01:47] <jrib> !top
[01:48] <Pici> !scope
[01:48] <PriceChild> !info top
[01:48] <jrib> heh
[01:48] <PriceChild> !info top edgy
[01:48] <_Zeus_> jrib: i think it should explain how to use the command "top" to report system usage
[01:48] <Pici> !info procps
[01:48] <jrib> top wouldn't be bad with mention of System Monitor for the gui
[01:48] <_Zeus_> right
[01:48] <Pici> I just think we shouldnt make factoids for every command :)
[01:49] <_Zeus_> and i think that's pretty important :P
[01:50] <Flannel> _Zeus_: You're welcome to suggest things.  /msg ubottu foo is bar
[01:50] <_Zeus_> huh?
[01:50] <Pici> read the wiki page in the usage factoid
[01:50] <_Zeus_> i don't get it
[01:50] <Pici> !usage
[01:50] <_Zeus_> oh
[01:51] <_Zeus_> so i can just add one?
[01:52] <Pici> You can suggest one.
[01:53] <jdong> it's like wikipedia but not as fun when it's 3AM with friends after too many whiskey shots.
[01:54] <_Zeus_> Top is a program used to monitor usage of system resources.  To use, type "top" at a terminal.  Alternatively, you can use a graphical version of top through System > Administration > System Monitor, and click on the tab marked Processes.
[01:54] <_Zeus_> how's that sound?
[01:56] <_Zeus_> anyone?
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> _Zeus_ New ops' ?
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Welcome...
[02:16] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[02:16] <_Zeus_> what?
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> I had not seen you here before, are you new to ub ops
[02:16] <Pici> No
[02:16] <_Zeus_> no...
[02:16] <Pici> !idle
[02:17] <_Zeus_> i thought i was supposed to wait for a reply to my ubottu request
[02:17] <_Zeus_> am i not?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ah.. got it
[02:17] <_Zeus_> i can leave if i'm not supposed to
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> _Zeus_ people will review it..  keep or kill it.
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Best not to idle
[02:18] <_Zeus_> the buy you banned is talking to me privately
[02:18] <_Zeus_> :P
[02:18] <_Zeus_> bye
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np take care
[02:18] <elkbuntu> _Zeus_, who is?
[02:18] <Pici> ...
[02:18]  * Pici sighs
[02:18] <Flannel> wobblywu perhaps
[02:18] <Pici> no
[02:18] <Flannel> the guy, not the buy
[02:18] <Pici> bender183
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Sille me.. I ass-u-me-d
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Enjoy your weekend all..
[02:19] <elkbuntu> confirming it's bender
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> yes, bender
[02:21] <Pici> Depending on how _Zeus_ acts during the next issue, I think it may be wise to talk to him about backseat opping.
[02:22] <jrib> what happened last time Pici?  (timestamp will do)
[02:23] <Pici> jrib: around 8 minutes ago in #u
[02:24] <Pici> Or maybe I'm just overreacting, sometimes I forget that they don't know when I'm watching.
[02:32] <Flannel> Pici: The intent is fine, although his particular implmentation could use some polish in particular.
[02:32] <Pici> Flannel: Thanks for the second opinion :)
[02:33] <Flannel> Pici: and yeah, that happens a lot (which is a good thing, self policing community, etc), you're just sitting on the enter key and they don't know it.
[02:39] <jrib> oh, I got a free hallmark ecard from mom_ in a pm now, yay!
[02:40]  * Flannel wishes his mom_ loved him...
[02:47] <elkbuntu> heh
[03:28] <Flannel> sorry Pici
[03:28] <Pici> :(
[07:14]  * Pici sighs
[07:17] <Flannel> Heh
[07:18] <Flannel> Pici: We've actually had a pretty good group of non-op people who are active in the reclaiming of -ot
[07:19] <Pici> Flannel: They don't seem to be active now :(
[07:20] <Flannel> Pici: They are.  There's only a few trouble makers still being dumb about it.  Of course, some of them are asleep right now.  But really, its only a few people who cause the issues, some others go along with it (but wouldn't cause problems in a vacuum).  It is a lot better now than it was, even a month ago.
[07:21] <Pici> Flannel: Oh, I agree.  I like it when I go to tell someone to stop doing something and a regular has already told them to stop.
[07:25] <Pici> I think I'm going to see if I can leave work now... been awake for too many hourse
[07:26] <Pici> hours too
[08:43] <jpds> @login
[08:47] <jpds> !ubuntuemail is <reply>An @ubuntu.com email alias is a privilege that is granted to all Ubuntu members. Please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail and !member.
[09:01] <ompaul> bazhang, heh you were well faster than me there :)
[09:01] <bazhang> ompaul, too fast? thought that was fairly egregious
[09:02] <bazhang> especially as it was just a !away
[09:02] <ompaul> yeap
[09:03] <ompaul> !guidelines
[09:03] <ompaul> !coc
[09:03] <bazhang> wonder what the response to a !ot would have been
[09:04] <ompaul> the same I guess
[09:04] <bazhang> probably
[09:04] <ompaul> well he is in pm now
[09:04] <bazhang> is federerroger for real?
[09:04] <ompaul> and you know what I pasted into a single line
[09:05] <ompaul> bazhang, read #u and you will see what I think
[09:05] <bazhang> ompaul, he was asking about 128gb usb stick etc
[09:06] <ompaul> and now telnet
[09:06] <bazhang> yes
[09:20] <ompaul> bazhang, note how it shutup when given a direct question
[09:26] <ompaul> bazhang, i am off for a bit
[09:29] <bazhang> right; see you later ompaul
[09:50] <ompaul> bazhang, you can guess that is slightly hostile but whatever
[09:50] <bazhang> ompaul, four monitors? he is really stretching it
[09:51] <ompaul> bazhang, ask him for a photo of his actual setup ;-)
[09:51] <bazhang> hehe
[10:01] <elkbuntu> so a classic troll for a change?
[10:02] <ompaul> elkbuntu, yeah it has been a long time :)
[10:02] <elkbuntu> indeed
[10:02] <elkbuntu> i note the complete absence of expletitives. a rare characteristic of trolls these days
[10:03] <elkbuntu> unless i overlooked a line
[10:04] <ompaul> elkbuntu, yeap
[10:04] <ompaul> elkbuntu, what did you get up to yesterday?
[10:05] <elkbuntu> ompaul, just lurked at home. the sydney sfd fell through, but sydney uni has something next fri which makes it not a complete waste
[10:05] <ompaul> ok
[10:05] <ompaul> we had talks for the day and a few stands
[10:05] <ompaul> lots of this is how FLOSS works
[10:06] <ompaul> mostly from the gnu not bsd perspective
[10:07] <elkbuntu> hmm, that federer dude has been lurking since the 7th
[10:08] <ompaul> any contribs
[10:08] <ompaul> or always with the hard questions?
[10:09] <elkbuntu> nothing until tonight
[10:09] <elkbuntu> just a few joins
[10:09] <elkbuntu> Sep 07 23:17:48 *       FedererRoger<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[10:09] <elkbuntu> Sep 08 00:02:29 *       FedererRoger<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu
[10:09] <elkbuntu> Sep 21 17:11:49 *       FedererRoger<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[10:10] <ompaul> yah
[10:10] <elkbuntu> so, good possibility of static ip. lets see who else he is
[10:12] <elkbuntu> been around since aug 10. first as robinparker then as php6th (booted by flannel on aug 17 and bazhang aug 24)
[10:13] <elkbuntu> he seems to not intermingle his nicks, he takes them in blocks
[10:13] <elkbuntu> always the same ident too
[10:16] <ompaul> elkbuntu, note the pm
[10:16] <elkbuntu> yep.
[10:17] <ompaul> also that nick is a tennis player the first one was a body builder :)
[10:32]  * elkbuntu sighs about eth01
[10:35] <jussi01> elkbuntu: we all sigh at eth01
[10:38]  * Seeker` especiall
[10:38] <Seeker`> y
[10:39] <elkbuntu> charming... 'because you dont kick me out, i get to say what i want'
[10:39] <elkbuntu> aka as 'you actually want it because you dont fight back hard enough'
[10:41] <ompaul> elkbuntu, where was that?
[10:41] <elkbuntu> ompaul, after your gentoo remark
[10:41] <ompaul> ohh missed that
[10:42] <elkbuntu> it's vague at best
[10:42] <elkbuntu> but it's what he's implying
[15:06] <ompaul> jrib, pointed them to #ubuntu-fr in pm
[15:07] <jrib> ompaul: k
[15:07] <Tm_T> 1704.25 -!- dehm<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:07] <Tm_T> 1704.25 -!- dehm is "mount,fsck,yes,fsck,fsck,umount,sleep"
[15:07] <ompaul> however I think they are ot for there ....
[15:07] <Tm_T> prolly that realname isn't very smart in ubuntu channels
[15:08] <ompaul> more than likely correct
[15:11] <ompaul> Tm_T, forward them to here perhaps?
[15:12] <Tm_T> I will
[15:12] <ompaul> did your client hand you the real name on join?
[15:12] <Tm_T> yes
[15:13]  * ompaul must actually switching to console
[15:13]  * ompaul must actually consider switching to console
[15:13] <ompaul> SWAT, ping
[15:13] <Tm_T> irssi <3
[15:15] <ompaul> hehe
[15:15] <ompaul> I remember being useful with a thing called ircII
[15:15] <ompaul> ii for those who wonder
[15:15] <ompaul> and then I took up with sirc ;-)
[15:16] <ompaul> back then someone made a thing called comic chat and it polluted the irc space
[15:16] <Tm_T> ompaul: Microsoft
[15:16] <ompaul> Tm_T, I was trying to infer not actually admit :)
[15:17] <Tm_T> haha
[15:17] <ompaul> Tm_T, the reason they never did manage to take over the world was that the IRC community stood steadfast against them :)
[15:17] <ompaul> Tm_T, in my mind ;-)
[15:17]  * ompaul gets more deluded at the day goes on
[15:18] <ompaul> by tonight in my mind we will have won
[15:29] <jussi01> meh! console based clients...
[15:30]  * ompaul goes to a very small persons birthday
[15:30] <ompaul> party
[15:30] <ompaul> age 3 and too smart!
[15:30] <Nafallo> ompaul: don't drink all the beer :-)
[15:30] <ompaul> Nafallo, I can't, so it matters not, no vodka there :)
[15:30] <Nafallo> lol
[15:31] <Nafallo> can't drink beer, only vodka? :-P
[15:31] <Tm_T> kids...
[15:33] <ompaul> Tm_T, arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[15:33] <ompaul> Nafallo, shutup or I will shave your chin ;-)
[15:33] <Nafallo> NO WAY! :-)
[15:34] <Nafallo> so /that's/ why we learn to keep our heads out of the way at Muay Thai ;-)
[15:35] <ompaul> ahh
[15:35] <ompaul> now I has the sekrit
[15:36] <Tm_T> glad that my incoming wedding isn't including alcohol, everyone can have that by themself in their own time
[15:38] <ompaul> :)
[16:01] <PriceChild> "when you run sudo with a pipe, and another sudo, like in"
[16:01] <PriceChild> "sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade"
[16:01] <PriceChild> "it won't 'work', but when you do them individually, they work fine.
[16:01] <PriceChild> "So I think it's a bug in sudo. (For intrepid)"
[17:40] <jdong> lol I like that.
[17:42]  * Pici marks PriceChild as invalid (in intrepid)
[17:42] <PriceChild> I always thought that people shouldn't PM ops for support... but maybe there is the reason why.
[17:44] <jussi01> rofl
[19:03] <Dark> Hello. I need some help, when i tried to join #ubuntu i got banned straight off and can't login now why is this?
[19:06] <Dark> ...
[19:06] <jussi01> Dark: 1 moment please
[19:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Dark are you getting a message like read topic?
[19:09] <jussi01> Dark: can you tell me a little more about what happened? Do you know why you were banned?
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jussi01 does @btlogin still work for you
[19:11] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> or am I doing it wrong..
[19:11] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: try @login first...
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[19:11] <Pici> @login
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks Pici
[19:13] <Dark> im getting disconnected
[19:13] <nalioth> Dark: read the topic in the channel you were forwarded to, please
[19:14] <Dark> sorry i have no idea whats going on
[19:14] <Dark> Which channel?
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Dark when was the last time you were able to join Ubuntu
[19:15] <Dark> never
[19:15] <Dark> thats the thing
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[19:15] <Dark> i just tried to join
[19:15] <Dark> and got banned
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Conor has a history here
[19:16]  * Myrtti peeks in
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> HOwdy Myrtti
[19:16]  * Dave2 yells BOO.
[19:16]  * Myrtti starts to cry
[19:16]  * Dave2 feels bad :(
[19:16]  * Dave2 hides off back to his cooking
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Want some cnady little girl.. were sorry
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> A lttle early for Halloween
[19:17]  * Myrtti blows her nose to Dave2s shirt hem
[19:24] <Myrtti> the topic at -read-topic needs to be updated
[19:24] <Myrtti> since all the bots are in place
[19:24]  * Myrtti pokes PriceChild
[19:52] <SWAT> ompaul: pong
[19:52] <ompaul> SWAT, ahhh I would have left you a VM if your phone had done taken a message Friday
[19:53] <SWAT> ompaul: I don't have voicemail, I hate that thing. If it's important people call me back or send me an SMS. Why, what's up?
[19:54] <ompaul> ahh I will pm
[19:54] <Flannel> or bother you on IRC!
[19:54] <ompaul> Flannel, I did try that it failed until now :)
[19:54] <Flannel> ompaul: you need to learn how to be a better bother, it seems.
[19:57]  * Flannel was sure there was something witty that could've come out of that, but couldn't find it.
[19:57] <Myrtti> stupid emacs.
[19:58] <Flannel> Myrtti: vim calls to you.
[19:58] <Myrtti> shut up.
[19:59] <ompaul> Myrtti, emacs is what emacs does
[20:04] <nalioth> Myrtti: did you get -read-topic sorted?
[20:05] <Myrtti> yup, I think so
[20:10] <Myrtti> meh.
[20:15] <ompaul> !test
[20:15] <Pici> ompaul: jrib beat you to it in #u
[20:16] <ompaul> ahh
[20:16] <jrib> too slow!
[20:17] <ompaul> jrib, I think that is a given  at this stage
[20:21] <Myrtti> silly chanserv
[20:22] <Myrtti> oohhhh!
[20:22] <Myrtti> now it works
[20:44] <ompaul> thansen|laptop, how can we help you
[20:44] <thansen|laptop> I was banned and would like to get back in
[20:45] <thansen|laptop> had flaky internet for a few days due to a move
[20:45] <Myrtti> what was your nickname then?
[20:45] <thansen|laptop> so my client kept connecting/disconecting
[20:45] <thansen|laptop> same as it is now
[20:45] <ompaul> Myrtti, jusdt a sec
[20:45] <ompaul>  #ubuntu 	thansen|laptop!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic 	FloodBot3
[20:46] <nalioth> that's not a flaky connection :(
[20:46] <thansen|laptop> ompaul: I don't know what you mean by that
[20:46] <Myrtti> thansen|laptop: oddly you are not on the victims list
[20:46] <Myrtti> but, hold on
[20:47] <Myrtti> thansen|laptop: try the test now
[20:47] <ompaul> thansen|laptop, go to #ubuntu-read-topic
[20:47] <Myrtti> he is there
[20:47] <thansen|laptop> ompaul: I have
[20:48] <thansen|laptop> that's where I got banned to after my connection issues :(
[20:48] <Myrtti> there you go
[20:48] <ompaul> ehh we are telling you to start again
[20:48] <thansen|laptop> I'm in
[20:48] <thansen|laptop> thanks ya'll :)
[21:53] <Myrtti> so how have things been?
[22:13] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: might be a good idea to remove +d k
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> np..  can you give me the command so I cna fix without looking it up
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Darn L
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib I spoke with PriceChild yesterday on reading up on some of these
[22:15] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: /mode #ubuntu -d k       would be my guess
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib what is -d and why would a L set it?
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> I am reading chanserv help atm
[22:20] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: +d is realname afaik
[22:21] <ompaul> ehh
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> How ya doing onp
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul
[22:24] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, hi
[22:24] <ompaul> doing ok
[22:25] <Flannel> What on earth
[22:28] <ompaul> we could do with a hand in #ubuntu
[22:29] <Flannel> I think its under control?
[22:30] <ompaul> Flannel, a couple of more eyes might not go astray
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> I was just stopping in, I can watch for a bit
[22:32] <ompaul> numbers are growing fast
[22:32] <ompaul> any staff watching please take a look at #ubuntu does not feel right
[22:34] <Flannel> eh?
[22:35] <ompaul> Flannel, joins seem too many / time
[22:35] <Flannel> Nah
[22:35] <Flannel> thats normal
[22:55] <tomaw> does anyone here know what BOTSSL (a nick) is?
[22:59] <ompaul> tomaw, no and I would suggest given the /whois info it is an unregistered bot
[23:00] <tomaw> it's probably confused by a channel forward
[23:01] <ompaul> ok I am koed
[23:01] <ompaul> I can't do any more later all
[23:03] <Myrtti> !test
[23:04] <Myrtti> uhoh
[23:20] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: pff isn't swearing
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought it was. sorry
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> What does it mean
[23:20] <Flannel> its... like sigh or pft, I imagine.
[23:20] <Flannel> I gues... it *could* be swearing, but I've never seen it before.
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> I was told it was quite rude
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> np  lets ask
[23:23] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, the internet doesn't think its anything, so... I can't imagine itis.
[23:23] <Flannel> If anyone would have it, I would imagine urban dictionary would
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Who killed the bot?
[23:27] <Flannel> peer did!  I hate that guy.
[23:35] <Flannel> jussi01: ping
[23:36] <Myrtti> 2008-09-22 01:36:37
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[23:40] <Flannel> That wont work sans ubottu either
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Myrtti Do you have a link for bantracker (pm)
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> I needed to comment a ban
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kalle123<EMAIL_ADDRESS>          http://paste.ubuntu.com/49092/
[23:41] <Myrtti> won't work without the bot
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[23:41] <Myrtti> if the bot is down, the whole server is down
[23:42] <Myrtti> oddly, jussi01s webpages work
[23:42] <Myrtti> but no, I don't have a link.
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Darn
[23:43] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: If you have any old links in your web history, they ought to work
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel It purges everything every time I open FF
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> not a big deal, I can do it later
[23:43] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: how about IRC logs with ubottu?


[03:50] <mreut> hey, just installed ubuntu studio lts and seem to be having an issue with puredata
[03:51] <mreut> won't open documentation and audio/midi test patch
[03:51] <mreut> from error window....
[03:51] <mreut> couldn't open "/usr/lib/puredata/doc/1.manual/1.introduction.txt": no such file or directory
[03:52] <holstein> mreut: what test patch?
[03:53] <holstein> mreut: it could be that that documentation has just changed or moved.. or been phased out
[03:53] <holstein> mreut: i would try and refer to upstream documentation
[03:54] <mreut> test patch under "Media"->"Test Audio and MIDI..."
[03:55] <holstein> mreut: i would just skip that, and start using it.. see if you can get it to work
[03:56] <mreut> I'll give it a wiz-bang and see what happens, normally fire that patch up first thing whenever I do a new system just to make sure everything is sane.
[03:56] <holstein> mreut: could be the patch is gone/missing
[03:56] <holstein> mreut: i dont think we ship it anymore.. and im not sure why
[04:01] <mreut> holstein: No dice thus far. Just running alsa at the moment.
[04:01] <holstein> mreut: i thought it required JACK?
[04:03] <mreut> holstein: I've ran it on other systems using only alsa, though it offers support for JACK
[04:03] <holstein> mreut: ubuntustudio ships pulse
[04:03] <mreut> holstein: Has ubuntu studio tweeked it for JACK only?
[04:03] <mreut> holstein: ahhhhhhh
[04:03] <holstein> mreut: AFAIK, we only repackage and drop it in
[04:03] <holstein> you'll want to be using JACK anyway
[04:04] <holstein> lubuntu doesnt (or didnt last i checked) ship pulse
[04:07] <mreut> bah, doesn't want to play nice with JACK either :(
[04:08] <mreut> going to double check everything just to make sure I didn't make any dumb moves.
[04:08] <holstein> mreut: sure.. any errors too, feel free and share
[04:09] <holstein> mreut: you can try #opensourcemusicians ...i just dont use it
[04:09] <holstein> got nothing first hand to helpout
[04:09] <mreut> I'll check out that channel if things still look grim, thanks!
[04:10] <zequence> mreut: Hi. I use pure data a lot
[04:10] <zequence> It's purely the way debian packagers packaged it, and more or less, the way it is in original code
[04:11] <zequence> mreut: If you prefer pd-extended, you could add the "official" ppa for it
[04:11] <zequence> just run the command:
[04:12] <mreut> I'm fine with vanilla for my needs, just need something to come out to my headphones for me to be happy.
[04:12] <zequence> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pd-extended
[04:12] <zequence> mreut: pd uses alsa by defailt
[04:13] <zequence> mreut: Not pulseaudio
[04:13] <zequence> mreut: It can be a bit tricky, but if you want to use jack instead, just make sure to start jack first
[04:13] <zequence> mreut: A few pd releases are a bit buggy
[04:13] <mreut> hmm, when I was running xubuntu, it more or less worked right out of the box.
[04:14] <zequence> mreut: It's the same OS
[04:14] <mreut> do things work better in ubuntu studio v13?
[04:14] <mreut> more stable version of pd there?
[04:14] <zequence> It's the exact same package
[04:15] <zequence> What you get with Ubuntu Studio is preconfigured low latency
[04:15] <mreut> I understand it being the same OS, which is why I'm perplexed that a fresh install doesn't provide any sound out.
[04:15] <zequence> All the installable software is exactly the same between all the Ubuntu flavors
[04:15] <holstein> you were likely using xubuntu 12.04 or something other than 13.10, and you are now on ubuntustudio 13.10.. or the other way around
[04:16] <zequence> It's actually exactly the same between Debian and Ubuntu. We import all the applications from Debian
[04:16] <mreut> ahh ok
[04:16] <zequence> 12.10 and 13.04 are certainly different
[04:17] <mreut> I was running xubuntu 13.10 previously
[04:17] <zequence> Some core stuff is not the same
[04:17] <zequence> Ubuntu Studio uses linux-lowlatency
[04:17] <mreut> yep yep
[04:18] <zequence> linux-lowlatency is essentially linux-generic, what Ubuntu and all the other flavors use
[04:18] <holstein> its the versions that are so diffrent.. not the flavours so much
[04:18] <zequence> It's just a bit more responsive
[04:18] <zequence> Exactly
[04:18] <holstein> the packages in xubuntu 13.10 and ubuntustudio 13.10 will be the same.. same versions.. if they are installed in both versions
[04:18] <holstein> they share the same repos
[04:18] <zequence> They use the same repositories
[04:18] <zequence> Right :)
[04:19] <mreut> so here is my real problem then, have an [osc~ 440]--->---[*~ 0.5]--->---[dac~]
[04:19] <mreut> no sound, set to alsa
[04:20] <zequence> mreut: That has more to do with sound setup in pd
[04:21] <zequence> mreut: I would suggest to you to drop into #datafow, which is the channel mostly used for pd
[04:21] <mreut> huh, maybe I just don't have sound period.....
[04:21] <mreut> no sound from firefox either...
[04:21] <zequence> alsa is one of the many sound systems
[04:21] <mreut> hmmmmm
[04:21] <zequence> When do you not have sound from firefox?
[04:21] <zequence> Always, or just sometimes?
[04:22] <zequence> In Ubuntu , there is a sound system called pulseaudio, which uses alsa drivers
[04:22] <mreut> background info: I just installed ubuntu studio about 20 min ago
[04:22] <zequence> There's also the pro audio server called jack, which also uses alsa drivers
[04:22] <mreut> so at this point, I haven't heard anything yet.
[04:22] <zequence> There's also plain alsa
[04:23] <zequence> mreut: What kind of audio device do you have?
[04:23] <zequence> !proaudio
[04:23] <mreut> just using headphone out on my desktop
[04:23] <zequence> mreut: Pleade read that page first :)
[04:24] <mreut> HDA Intel - VIA VT1708S
[04:24] <zequence> It's a regular audio device
[04:24] <zequence> hdmi out?
[04:24] <zequence> you said headphones, sorry
[04:24] <mreut> 3.5mm hooked up to my headphones
[04:25] <mreut> alsamixer shows master level at -13.5 dB gain
[04:25] <zequence> Should work. Just make sure all levels and options are set correctly for pulseaudio, when it comes to firefox
[04:26] <zequence> To test sound, please reboot the computer, and only use whatever application it is you want to use, for testing purposes
[04:26] <zequence> Like firefox
[04:27] <mreut> I"ll reboot and see what happens
[04:29] <mreut> nada
[04:30] <mreut> is there a terminal audio test utility?
[04:30] <holstein> !info cvlc
[04:31] <holstein> vlc has cvlc which is in the terminal
[04:31] <mreut> Running 12.04 LTS fresh install with all updates
[04:31] <holstein> mreut: after installing vlc, running "cvlc" will run vlc in the terminal
[04:32] <zequence> to test alsa, try aplay
[04:34] <zequence> I forget what the pulseaudio equivalent tool is
[04:34] <zequence> you can basically do: aplay /path/to/myaudiofile.wav
[04:36] <mreut> nothing
[04:36] <mreut> :(
[04:36] <zequence> I shouldn't be awake at this hour. bb later :)
[04:36] <mreut> sweet dreams
[04:36] <zequence> mreut: you probably only need to set the right output in pulseaudio controls
[04:36] <zequence> whatever the app is called.. I forget again
[04:37] <mreut> Pulse Audio Volume Control?
[04:37] <zequence> Sure
[04:38] <mreut> doesn't look like that's the one, doesn't have anything worth mention
[04:38] <mreut> in regards to my problem
[04:40] <mreut> wondering if the updates did something to my system
[04:42] <mreut> calling it a night
[04:43] <mreut> zzz
[15:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Eureka! I think I found the answer to the whole EFI problem thus far.
[15:57] <SonikkuAmerica> (Signed image aside)
[16:01] <SonikkuAmerica> The problem occurs with the EFI boot files being placed under the /EFI/ubuntustudio/ dir instead of /EFI/ubuntu/ in the ESP.
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> The pragmatic thing to do would be to alter the default GRUB 2 config when the EFI boot files are created to look in (ESP)/EFI/ubuntustudio/ for grub.cfg , but another workaround for now is to rename the ubuntustudio folder to ubuntu
[16:04] <SonikkuAmerica> (which would also make the $prefix correct)
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> (wrong channel)
[17:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Also, is there a plan to set more of the standard Ubuntu settings in xfce4-settings-manager like Xubuntu?
[17:37] <zequence> You would be most welcome to help us out on this stuff
[17:37] <zequence> The plan has been for a while to base everything on existing DE's and offer the possibility to install any of them
[17:37] <zequence> We'd just keep our own theme
[17:38] <zequence> The menu also, but that's more of an application the way we package it
[17:38] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: ^
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Be glad to...
[17:40] <zequence> I'm a bit out of time today, but just log in to #ubuntustudio-devel, and hang out
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> k
[19:34] <Python673> Does anyone know how to setup a Steinberg UR22 USB audio interface in Ubuntu Studio?
[19:36] <Python673> Is that a no?
[20:19] <Patero-ng> I'm in love with an anorexic girl that thinks eating is moreally wrong
[20:22] <holstein> Patero-ng: maybe you would be more happy talking about that in #ubuntu-offtopic