[02:11] <_schism_> evening all
[02:12] <aveilleux> hello _schism_
[02:18] <_schism_> has anyone here ever used openvas?  I had my media machine get hit and I think I fixed it but I am not sure and this seems to be the program to check those kinda things out but cant get it to run
[02:19] <aveilleux> _schism_: OpenVAS is a fairly complicated system...
[02:20] <_schism_> I was afraid of that :(  can you recomened anything else to scan it for stuff that people can use against it?
[02:21] <aveilleux> _schism_: Depends on what kind of ports you have open. How do you interface with the machine? How does media get put onto the machine? Do you SSH into the box?
[02:22] <_schism_> I use ssh and did use vnc but did away with vnc.  I got rid of it before I noticed the logs but I dont remember exactly when in comparrison
[02:23] <_schism_> nmap maybe?
[02:23] <aveilleux> _schism_: nmap is pretty good
[02:23] <aveilleux> _schism_: Did you change the SSH port?
[02:25] <_schism_> yes I did at the same time I got rid of vnc.  I use the auth key thingie on it instead of the password which is the better way to do it if I understood my google foo correctly
[02:26] <_schism_> hmmm if I am reading correctly nmap just does open ports but doesnt check for any stuff that can be used against you correct?
[02:27] <aveilleux> _schism_: Checking for "things that can be used against you" can't be done, since cracking tools evolve constantly
[02:27] <aveilleux> _schism_: Define "auth key thingie"
[02:28] <_schism_> the private key
[02:29] <aveilleux> _schism_: Public key authentication? You can do that with a password as well
[02:30] <_schism_> yeah public key.  way too many bookmarks..........
[02:39] <aveilleux> _schism_: Security isn't really my speciality, just don't enable the root account and run nothing on an account with sudo rights
[02:39] <aveilleux> Change all of the standard ports (SSH, FTP, etc)
[02:40] <_schism_> aveilleux,  thanks for the help. it was probably a mistake on my part before but I realy do appreciate your help
[02:40] <aveilleux> _schism_: no problem. I run two servers so I understadn your concern :)
[02:40] <aveilleux> understand*
[02:41] <_schism_> yeah mine is for the kids to be able to watch their movies from so I dont want someone on there putting stuff that they shouldnt be seeing on there
[02:42] <aveilleux> _schism_ : How do you get the movies onto the server?
[02:42] <_schism_> I have been buying movies with the digital copies on them and downloading them to the machine.
[02:43] <aveilleux> _schism_: Yes, but how are you actually getting the files onto the machine? USB stick, FTP, what
[02:44] <_schism_> usualy a usb hd
[02:44] <_schism_> work has a lot more bandwidth than I do ;)
[02:45] <aveilleux> _schism_: Wait, so if this is in your house... what ports are forwarded?
[02:46] <_schism_> right now since I found the machine goofed up only port 80 to a dvr I have and thats all
[02:48] <aveilleux> _schism_: Why is the port forwarded, I'm a little confused (since this is all running locally, I assume)
[02:49] <_schism_> the dvr is for a camera system and it is fowarded to the dvr for offsite viewing
[02:51] <aveilleux> _schism_: I see. Then the video feed is running over HTTP?
[02:52] <_schism_> its uses the port 80 inbound to trigger outbound to the client software on other ports
[02:52] <_schism_> its a diffrent machine not the media machine
[02:52] <aveilleux> _schism_: Um, okay
[02:56] <zkriesse> G'day N-14 and PrimeRad
[02:56] <N-14> Hi
[02:56] <PrimeRad> Hello
[02:59] <_schism_> wow look at all the attempts to pop my machine in the last 30 minutes
[02:59] <aveilleux> _schism_: You might want to change your port.
[02:59] <_schism_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:59] <_schism_> wonder how many boards I can post that into.....
[02:59] <aveilleux> _schism_: Don't do it.
[03:00] <aveilleux> _schism_: I do not encourage retaliation. They probably have better defenses than you do.
[03:00] <_schism_> true didnt mean for retaliation I meant as far as ips to watch out for
[03:00] <aveilleux> _schism_: More likely than not that IP will be changed within the day
[03:01] <aveilleux> _schism_: No one has static IPs anymore
[03:01] <aveilleux> (unless you request them)
[03:01] <_schism_> sadly enough it didnt start happening until I cam in here asking for help :(
[03:03] <aveilleux> Weird
[03:03] <_schism_> but at least everything is closed down now so it makes me feel a lot better
[03:03] <PrimeRad> What are u then Enemy of the State?
[03:04] <aveilleux> Could be
[03:04] <_schism_> lol nope just a guy trying to make sure my kids dont see stuff they shouldnt and trying to learn a bit about nix
[03:04] <PrimeRad> lol
[03:05] <aveilleux> _schism_ Something you can try (that I've heard of but never used) is iptables autobanning
[03:05] <aveilleux> I don't know how it works, sadly
[03:06] <collinp> As in?
[03:06] <PrimeRad> You've got a neophyte here. I'm still learning my TI calculator.
[03:06] <_schism_> I have been reading about iptables and am trying to wrap my head around those as well
[03:06] <collinp> Depending upon the kind of attack it is, there are several programs available to do the job.
[03:06] <collinp> If you want to go for the gold, run a Intrusion Prevention System.
[03:07]  * _schism_ adds yet another thing to his google list
[03:07] <collinp> My VPS gets attacked over SSH around 200 times in 12 hours.
[03:07] <collinp> Mostly brute-force attacks.
[03:07] <PrimeRad> I'm in trouble aren't I?
[03:08] <_schism_> nah ti calcs cant be put on the net :)
[03:09] <PrimeRad> Yeah but I'm really new. I'm still learning all the features and I have no programming background.
[03:10] <zkriesse> collinp: Intrusion Prevention System?
[03:10] <collinp> zkriesse: It's self-explanitory.
[03:10] <_schism_> dont worry I am clueless but the guys in here are realy good about helping they have just spent the last 45 minutes or so helping me
[03:10] <collinp> err, explanatory.
[03:11] <zkriesse> _schism_: thanks for the compliment
[03:11] <collinp> If it detects an attack, it logs it, and can be configured to send you a message about it and/or react to it.
[03:11] <_schism_> zkriesse, your welcome
[03:11] <collinp> For example: snort
[03:27] <_schism_> well all I do appreciate the help but I need to go. thanks once again
[05:35] <z_k> Hello people. I'm having a problem with my wireless on Ubuntu. I'm very new to linux. My wireless was working fine, but mysteriously stopped working. If anyone wants to help, I'd appreciate it greatly :)
[06:29] <AbhiJit> hi
[06:33] <stlsaint> hey
[06:33] <AbhiJit> hey
[09:42] <shahan> .
[09:43] <shahan> I want to remove all the inactive files of my ubuntu
[09:44] <shahan> that is like the  DiskCleanUP in Windows
[09:44] <shahan> is there any way to do this?
[09:44] <AbhiJit> shahan, try ubuntu tweak or bleachbit
[09:44] <AbhiJit> first try bleachbit
[09:45] <shahan> AbhiJit, is it in SoftwareCenter?
[09:45] <AbhiJit> shahan, yes
[09:45] <shahan> AbhiJit, ok
[09:48] <shahan> nUboon2Age, welcome
[13:00] <duanedesign> morning all
[13:08] <vu1kan> is there any place that ram usage is logged? top doesn't do me any good, really, i'm wanting to know what application is suddenly sucking my ram(and i am aware of the fact that linux uses unallocated ram as a cache), i'll be watching a movie, and my ram usage will go from 40% to max in a matter of seconds...completely randomly; i've tried to duplicate the behavior with top or the system monitor open, with no luck.  i want something that can di
[13:11] <duanedesign> hello vu1kan
[13:12] <vu1kan> hello duanedesign
[13:13] <duanedesign> i use htop instead of top. Can you sort the list in top by memory usage?
[13:14] <vu1kan> yes, you have to hit k or something like that, i don't recall specifically offhand
[13:23] <vu1kan> duanedesign: i'm sorry, i just checked the man page, and you have to use < or > untill it's sorted by the mem column
[13:23] <vu1kan> my bad
[13:51] <vu1kan> nobody else has any ideas?
[14:02] <pedro3005> vu1kan, http://rimuhosting.com/howto/memory.jsp maybe that can help
[14:05] <vu1kan> thanx, pedro3005, this looks like a good place to start...i may just set up  that script at the bottom
[15:45] <bodhi> Anyone here running Safari ?
[15:45] <bodhi> Opera ?
[15:47] <AbhiJit> opera
[15:47] <AbhiJit> bodhi, yes opera
[16:07] <bodhi> I am try my hand at html5
[16:07] <bodhi> Can you tell me, ddoes this video work ?
[16:07] <bodhi> http://bodhizazen.net/video/
[16:07] <bodhi> sound an all ?
[16:07] <bodhi> TY in advance
[16:11] <AbhiJit> ok
[16:12] <AbhiJit> bodhi, first i run it then still 0:10 it runs well like video but after that it runs like slide show one photo after another like that
[16:12] <AbhiJit> when i run it second time it runs well stiil 0:10 everything was ok but then no sound still 0:13 but again after 0:13 everything was ok
[16:12] <AbhiJit> and when i run third time the whole moveis played very well
[16:15] <AbhiJit> bodhi, sound goes off randomly
[16:15] <bodhi> TY
[16:16] <bodhi> The content need to dl before it will play smoothly
[16:16] <bodhi> At least it "worked"
[16:16] <AbhiJit> yah
[16:16] <bodhi> writing html5 video means you need to write code for each browser (kind of a pain)
[16:17] <AbhiJit> hmm
[16:17] <bodhi> that page works in chromium, chrome, and firefox 4 beta
[16:17] <bodhi> sound does not work for me in firefox 3.6.x
[16:17] <AbhiJit> i see
[16:18] <bodhi> You can "fall back" to flash or Java, but that kind of defeats the point , IMO'
[16:18] <bodhi> and it does not work at all for IE
[16:19] <AbhiJit> hmm
[17:33] <johnny77> I'm looking to dual boot ubuntu with windows. I currently have windows installed with Ubuntu installed using Wubi. All the documentation I see talks about partitioning the drive, but I was thinking of installing ubuntu on a removable ssd. Is this possible?
[17:37] <AbhiJit> johnny77, ssd?
[17:38] <AbhiJit> you mean sd card?
[17:38] <johnny77> yes... it's also called a solid slate drive right?
[17:38] <ibuclaw> AbhiJit, solid state. :-)
[17:38] <AbhiJit> dunno
[17:38] <AbhiJit> johnny77, but you can install ubuntu on usb drive and sd card also
[17:38] <AbhiJit> sd card is one used in digi cams
[17:39] <ibuclaw> johnny77, ssd is not different
[17:39] <ibuclaw> *to installing on a normal hard disk
[17:40] <johnny77> but all the documentation talks about partitioning. How do I install without playing with the partitions. Is there a place I can just pick the other drive?
[17:41] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you can just select that ssd as '/' while installing ubuntu?
[17:41] <AbhiJit> first partition it with fat32
[17:42] <johnny77> should the sd card already have a file system on it?
[17:42] <AbhiJit> yes
[17:43] <johnny77> then why do I need to partition it?
[17:43] <AbhiJit> :
[17:43] <AbhiJit> :(
[17:43] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you just process this card as regular hard disk and to the things like wise no difference
[17:43] <AbhiJit> just dont ruine your windows partition! :P
[17:44] <johnny77> That is what I'm worried about.
[17:45] <johnny77> So I basically put in the sd card, reboot my computer with the install CD or USB in. When the Ubuntu install pops up, I pick a duial boot option then pick the drive letter for the SD card.
[17:45] <johnny77> Is that right?
[17:45] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you can be sure about 'which' one is your sd card and which is yoru hdd by using gparted
[17:45] <AbhiJit> right
[17:46] <johnny77> would the ubuntu install see my hhd as C drive?
[17:46] <AbhiJit> no
[17:46] <AbhiJit> something like sda1 etc
[17:46] <johnny77> would it show me the size?
[17:46] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you can know your windows partition by looking at format type - e.g. windows will only have some fat32 or 16 or ntfs
[17:47] <AbhiJit> yes it will show
[17:47] <johnny77> would a 16g SD card be sufficient for ubuntu?
[17:48] <AbhiJit> yes sure
[17:48] <AbhiJit> min req is 4 gb
[17:48] <AbhiJit> of freespace i mean
[17:49] <johnny77> But if I want to create files in ubuntu I'd need a little space for that.
[17:49] <AbhiJit> yes
[17:49] <AbhiJit> but 16 big is sufficient for /
[17:50] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you may need more space only for yoru /home not for /. the '/' will be perfect in 16 gb
[17:51] <johnny77> i'm not sure what you just said... what is /hone /. and / ?
[17:51] <AbhiJit> johnny77, /home is your home directory where your main documents, music, videos, and dowloaded things stay
[17:52] <AbhiJit> and / knows as root partition is onw where os's system files stays e.g. installed software etc
[17:54] <johnny77> So basically your saying if I have a lot of document/music/whatever i might need bigger, but if I only have a few then 16gb would be ok.
[17:54] <AbhiJit> right
[17:54] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: I have a question for you. Are you an application developer? or will others be using your computer?
[17:55] <johnny77> no to both questions.
[17:55] <Mohan_chml> Cool
[17:55] <johnny77> why do you ask?
[17:55] <Mohan_chml> then you can use a common / and not /home and /boot, etc., In separate drives
[17:56] <Mohan_chml> AbhiJit: It will be better to continue with / and you carry on :)
[17:56] <AbhiJit> Mohan_chml, :D
[17:56] <johnny77> would I be able to access files on my HDD when I'm booted into ubuntu?
[17:57] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: and One more question. What is the size of your RAM?
[17:57] <johnny77> I'm pretty sure 1gb.
[17:57] <AbhiJit> johnny77, yes sure
[17:58] <johnny77> I've only been using ubuntu for about a week, but am really enjoying it. If it wasn't for a couple windows only programs, I'd fully switch.
[17:58] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: Ubuntu and other Linux Operating systems Identifies Win File formats like FAT 32 and NTFS. But M$ Will never detect Linux FIle systems. i.e, you cannot view the contents of Ubuntu in Win
[17:59] <Mohan_chml> AbhiJit: make him add 2 GB Swap. make sure he edits the partition correctly
[17:59] <AbhiJit> dinner time!
[17:59] <AbhiJit> :P
[17:59] <johnny77> i read something about the swap partition. should that be on the HHD or the SD card?
[17:59] <Mohan_chml> lol Okay then. I will handle this. Go and have it :P
[18:00] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: HDD
[18:00] <johnny77> so in the end I'll still have to mess with the windows partitions.
[18:01] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: at what stage you are?? and nope. you win partitions remain as it is. What you have to do is, get a 15 GB free space
[18:02] <johnny77> right now I have not started at all on the dual boot. I currently have ubuntu installed using wubi.
[18:02] <Mohan_chml> Nice
[18:02] <johnny77> Would the swap be kind of like the wubi install a 2gb section blocked off from windows?
[18:03] <Mohan_chml> Swap area = virtual RAM
[18:04] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: ready to Rock?
[18:05] <johnny77> sorry I can't do it right at this minute, I don't have the SD card... whated to make sure of a couple of things before I went out and bought it.
[18:05] <johnny77> brb
[18:05] <Mohan_chml> Okay :)
[18:14] <johnny77> back... sorry took so long.
[18:14] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: No worries =]
[18:15] <johnny77> so would the swap area be set up during the installation.
[18:15]  * AbhiJit too back!
[18:15] <AbhiJit> having swap on card it self is good in the sense that you can plug that card in any usb boot enabled pc and have swap with you
[18:15] <Mohan_chml> AbhiJit: carry on =]
[18:16] <AbhiJit> also swap is mainly used for hibernation if you are not going to hibernate then swap is not that much necessary
[18:16] <AbhiJit> Mohan_chml, you be here too!
[18:16] <Mohan_chml> Ummm...! I will watch ya :D
[18:16] <AbhiJit> :)
[18:19] <johnny77> I'm really confused. I'm familiar with swap files as windows uses them, but am getting a little confused on how this works with my ubuntu dual boot.
[18:19] <johnny77> Is it just that I have to tell the install where to create the swap files?
[18:22] <Mohan_chml> !swap
[18:22] <ubot2> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[18:22] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: ^ you can read about swap there ^^
[18:23] <johnny77> thank you.
[18:23] <Mohan_chml> (:
[18:24] <hobgoblin> afternoon
[18:24] <Mohan_chml> Hiyas hobgoblin (:
[18:25] <hobgoblin> Mohan_chml: how's things
[18:26] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin: watched Soccer, Cricket, Animatinon movie, Death race and slept. Is there any other thing to say about today? :D
[18:26] <johnny77> a swap partition is an actual partition on the HHD, right?
[18:26] <hobgoblin> are you hungry?
[18:26] <hobgoblin> johnny77: not necessarily
[18:27] <hobgoblin> depends what you want to do - do you need to suspend/hibernate?
[18:28] <johnny77> i don't plan to suspend/hibernate manually. I not sure if Ubuntu does it automatically after a period of inactivity.
[18:29] <hobgoblin> not that I know of - if you're not planning to then you could use a swap file instead of a partition
[18:29] <hobgoblin> if you go with a partition - as long as it is actually there then the installer will recognise and use it
[18:32] <johnny77> if I'm going to set up a dual boot ubuntu & windows, should I create a swap partition? I'm planning to install ubuntu on a SD card to avoid having to play with the partitions. I have 1 HHD with 1 partition.
[18:35] <hobgoblin> it's up to you :)
[18:37] <johnny77> if I created a swap partition in the HHD it would of course affect the partition windows is installed on and could loose all my data?
[18:38] <hobgoblin> you'd need to shrink windows first - what version windows is it?
[18:38] <johnny77> xp.
[18:39] <hobgoblin> I'd use the partition editor in the livecd then
[18:39] <hobgoblin> assuming you;ve data on there - backup
[18:40] <hobgoblin> there's always the possibility that fate decides to interven in the middle of the partitioning and turns the power off
[18:41] <hobgoblin> the need for swap depends on a couple of things really
[18:41] <johnny77> would it be just as good to create swap files on the HHD instead of a full partition?
[18:41] <hobgoblin> you;d need to be able to create them on a linux partition as far as I know - so you;d still be needing to partition
[18:42] <Mohan_chml> AbhiJit: Thing to remember: always use Ext format to install Ubuntu
[18:42] <AbhiJit> Mohan_chml, not for usb
[18:42] <hobgoblin> how much RAM do you have and what do you intend to use ubuntu for - memory intensive things or not?
[18:42] <hobgoblin> AbhiJit: you;ll not install ubuntu on a fat32 partition
[18:43] <AbhiJit> hobgoblin, unetbootin says so
[18:43] <hobgoblin> that's to do with the iso not an install
[18:43] <shahan> Google earth is not running http://paste.ubuntu.com/504611/
[18:43] <johnny77> I have 1gb memory and only plan to use general computer stuff, email, Open Office, internet... etc.
[18:44] <johnny77> can i create the swap partition on the SD card?
[18:44] <hobgoblin> johnny77: then I would use a swap file - you can create it in the / afaik
[18:45] <johnny77> what is "/ afaik" ?
[18:45] <AbhiJit> johnny77, i told you
[18:45] <hobgoblin> johnny77: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How%20do%20I%20add%20more%20swap?
[18:45] <shahan> johnny77: / means root
[18:45] <hobgoblin> johnny77: afaik - as far as I know and / is root - where all the install resides
[18:46] <johnny77> ok, i knew / meant root, but was not sure what afaik meant.
[18:46] <hobgoblin> johnny77: I would create a 1Gb swap file - the link I gave shows a 512Mb one only
[18:46] <hobgoblin> that should be sufficient - I rarely touched swap with 1Gb RAM
[18:48] <johnny77> and that swap file would be on the SD card right?
[18:49] <johnny77> and I'd create that in ubuntu after the install?
[18:50] <hobgoblin> yes
[18:53] <johnny77> ok, thank you everyone...
[18:53] <hobgoblin> :)
[19:53]  * phillw waves, anyone in here used to recovering a dual boot system (windows) via a ubuntu start up usb stick?
[21:18] <Fanshawe> I can't get evolution to play sounds or pop up notifiers for any alarms I set on tasks, appojntments, etc.
[21:18] <Fanshawe> How do I do this?
[21:36] <Fanshawe> A little quiet this evening, I see.
[23:02] <stlsaint> yo yo
[23:09]  * bobo123 goes fetching an yoyo :-)
[23:09] <pedro3005> hey stlsaint
[23:10] <pedro3005> in today's class I went over a bit of...
[23:10] <pedro3005> project euler!
[23:10] <pedro3005> >:)
[23:10] <stlsaint> :P
[23:12] <stlsaint> pedro3005: class minutes?
[23:13] <pedro3005> stlsaint, we started a wiki page here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Academy/IntroToPython
[23:13] <stlsaint> awesome
[23:13] <bobo123> I have an avi here with multiple subtitles included in it, vlc(1.06 in ubuntu10.04) do lists the 3 subtitles in its video/subtitle-menu, but when I select any of them, no text is rendered. What can I do?
[23:16] <pedro3005> stlsaint, know anything about IMAP?
[23:20] <stlsaint> mail?
[23:20] <pedro3005> yeah
[23:20] <pedro3005> someone is asking me about configuring imap
[23:21] <stlsaint> in evolution or something? i really dont deal with mail all that much
[23:22] <pedro3005> yeah me neither
[23:27] <bobo123> Here is what vlc is saying when informationlevel is on 2, when I select one of the subtitles: http://pastebin.com/w1EwLeSQ
[23:29] <bobo123> Hm... someone said "build VLC yourself, VLC shipped by ubuntu is broken by their package maintainers.", but I'm not sure I dare to compile vlc myself, do anyone knows of a thirdparty repository with vlc in it that I can use to get a working version of vlc?


[06:36] <mfauzirahman> what time the meeting start? i'm from malaysia
[15:22] <smartboyhw> We have finished our QA meeting. Thank balloons and phillw for attending
[16:12] <stgraber> jibel: did you figure out what package was missing in bug 1029531?
[16:29] <jibel> stgraber, no, and I don't have access to the VM with the problem here at the sprint


[01:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been marked as ready
[02:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been marked as ready
 jammy daily ISO builds appear to be broken at the moment


[02:05] <arraybolt3[m]> Just showing up, about to read backlog.
[02:08] <arraybolt3[m]> guiverc: Well that makes sense to me. Thank for the link, and for putting in a good word for me!
[04:05] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): I'm about to try to hammer through a bunch of backports, ping me when you'd like a list of PRs to check through.
[04:06] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: Go crazy, I'll ping when I'm ready for your list :)
[04:06] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍
[04:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): I did just hit something a bit worrying - obconf-qt appears to have a well-updated copyright file, but looking through diffs, I'm seeing references to names and years that we don't have marked. I'm guessing that since obconf-qt is derived from obconf (I believe?) that these are copyright remnants from the old software and don't matter, but I'd like some confirmation about that.
[04:11] <arraybolt3[m]> https://github.com/lxqt/obconf-qt/compare/0.16.0...0.16.2.diff
 "Simon Quigley (Developer): I did..." <- If it's in the source code but not referenced by the copyright file as a rule of thumb you should just add it
[05:07] <arraybolt3[m]> OK.
[05:52] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): Alright, so here's an interesting question. What do I do when the source code file literally has this as the copyright header:
[05:52] <arraybolt3[m]>     <one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does.>
[05:52] <arraybolt3[m]>     Copyright (C) 2013  <copyright holder> <email>
[05:52] <arraybolt3[m]> (That is verbatim from src/maindialog.h in obconf-qt.)
[05:54] <arraybolt3[m]> I'm pretty sure that this is Hong Jen Yee (PCMan) since the other 2013 copyrights were from him, but I have no way of knowing for certain.
[05:57] <tsimonq2> Real life just hit me hard. afk until tomorrow at min
[05:58] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): So sorry to hear that. Let me know if there's something I can help with.
 "I'm pretty sure that this is..." <- I am going to say you have 2 options. You could skip over it since it isn't clear or give the person that committed that the credit.
[18:58] <arraybolt3[m]> Dan Simmons: Good thinking. Currently I have a ridiculous-looking line in debian/copyright, but Hong Jen Yee was the committor, so it's probably him. I filed a bug report upstream last night, so I may have an answer already today.
[19:00] <arraybolt3[m]> Nope, no bug report. I'm certain it's PCMan, so I'll change it.
[20:40] <arraybolt3[m]> I had a potentially crazy idea that might make a lot of people happy. There's a number of computers out there where they have a 64-bit CPU, but the UEFI is 32-bit and requires a 32-bit bootloader to function. A quick look through Ubuntu packages reveals that we do indeed appear to package the 32-bit UEFI GRUB, perhaps we might consider including it on the ISO and adjusting our config to detect these sort of systems and install the
[20:40] <arraybolt3[m]> proper bootloader?
[20:41] <kc2bez[m]> arraybolt3[m]: Is it not there on a live image? It used to be.
[20:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Dunno. I've seen many complaints about this though - someone the other day was stuck having to go back to Xubuntu 18.04 on the #ubuntu IRC chat because they had to use a 32-bit distro despite having a 64-bit system due to this problem.
[20:42] <kc2bez[m]> Plus we run this little tiny script to detect that https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/ubuntu%252Fkinetic/common/modules/before_bootloader_context.conf%2415
[20:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Hmm. Maybe the problem was that someone was trying to use Xubuntu or Ubuntu and not Lubuntu then. I didn't know that.
[20:42] <arraybolt3[m]> (Can the Lubuntu USB even boot on such systems?)
[20:43] <kc2bez[m]> It should work, we did some testing in early days.
[20:43] <kc2bez[m]> 18.10 or 19.04
[20:43]  * arraybolt3[m] wishes I had one of these finicky laptops to verify, since the guy on #ubuntu seemed pretty sure that Lubuntu wasn't working...
[20:44] <kc2bez[m]> I don't have one either. It would make diagnosing the issue easier.
[20:45] <kc2bez[m]> There is a current thread that is of a similar situation and has me questioning things.
[20:45] <kc2bez[m]> https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/vintage-laptop-asus-x205ta-supported/3424
[20:45] <arraybolt3[m]> It was looking at that thread that made me think about this.
[20:46] <arraybolt3[m]> (Looking at an eBay listing for that particular laptop and can't help but laugh when they describe 2 GB RAM and 1.33 GHz Intel Atom as "packing power where it counts")
[20:47] <kc2bez[m]> Yeah, whatever machine falls into this category is going to be woeful performance.
[20:48] <arraybolt3[m]> Which is fine for Lubuntu, not so great for Windows, thus why users want to switch.
[20:48] <kc2bez[m]> For sure
[20:49] <arraybolt3[m]> (But yeah, even my fanless ARM-based Chromebook x2 probably could run circles around that thing.)
[20:54] <arraybolt3[m]> aHA! I can compile TianoCore myself for IA32, I bet that will let me load it into an x86_64 VM and make myself a virtual "hybrid mess" VM to test in.
[20:55] <kc2bez[m]> arraybolt3[m]: Oh, that is spicy.
[20:55] <arraybolt3[m]> I wonder if IA32 OVMF packages already exist?
[20:56] <arraybolt3[m]> Looks like there is!
[20:56] <arraybolt3[m]> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/ovmf-ia32
[20:56] <kc2bez[m]> nice
[20:56] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, now we can test it. I may do that right now.
[20:56] <kc2bez[m]> sounds good, I am interested in the results.
[21:10] <arraybolt3[m]> 32-bit UEFI support is borked. Tried to load it in QEMU, it just skipped right over the ISO, kicked me back to the UEFI setup screen if I tried to boot the ISO or any of the .efi files directly. 64-bit UEFI automatically booted from the ISO. Looks like we're only shipping the 64-bit bootloader on the ISO itself.
[21:11] <kc2bez[m]> That's unfortunate.
[21:11]  * arraybolt3[m] thinks we should add this to the testcases
[21:12] <kc2bez[m]> Well, not if it won't work ;)
[21:12] <arraybolt3[m]> but i mean can't we fix it by shipping the 32-bit bootloader too
[21:13] <kc2bez[m]> The live system build is a little different, we can't just add the package to our seed and have the image built with it persay.
[21:16] <arraybolt3[m]> Well crud. I guess bug report time then?
[21:18] <kc2bez[m]> Can you try a focal image and see if that works?
[21:22] <arraybolt3[m]> Easy.
[21:23] <arraybolt3[m]> No dice, exact same problem.
[21:24] <arraybolt3[m]> I could take 18.04 64-bit for a test drive, too.
[21:24] <kc2bez[m]> 🤔 i feel like that should have worked else we would have heard about it by now.
[21:25] <kc2bez[m]> 18.04 is ubiquity + lxde
[21:25] <arraybolt3[m]> Yeah but if this problem hits Lubuntu, it probably hits Ubuntu too, Ubuntu 18.04 is still supported, and if we can get a confirmed bug report and a fix, it will hopefully propagate to Lubuntu 22.04 and 22.10.
[21:26] <arraybolt3[m]> All the .efi files have "x64" at the end of their names, I think that's the problem.
[21:27] <arraybolt3[m]> (As in, they're all 64-bit EFI files, when a 32-bit EFI needs 32-bit files even on a 64-bit CPU.)
[21:29] <kc2bez[m]> We absolutely had this working, i remember the joy... er pain.
[21:30] <kc2bez[m]> It was 18.10, I looked at the commit.
[21:31] <arraybolt3[m]> I have unmetered data, I can download an 18.10 iso from Archive.org for a one-off test, no problem.
[21:32] <kc2bez[m]> It would be good to know.
[21:32] <kc2bez[m]> I am just wondering about the virtualization layer working as anticipated.
[21:33] <arraybolt3[m]> Good point, I am using a rather elegant^U^U^U^U^U^U^U hacky way of doing this...
[21:36] <arraybolt3[m]> Good grief, getting an ISO out of Archive.org can be like trying to eat crablegs for the first time...
[21:38] <arraybolt3[m]> Alright, download in progress, will report back when the test is complete.
[21:44] <kc2bez[m]> sounds good
[21:44] <kc2bez[m]> grub-efi-ia32 is still part of the grub2 package
[21:45] <kc2bez[m]> so in theory there should be a way as long as the thing boots
[21:47] <arraybolt3[m]> Makes sense to me. Probably something just got lost somewhere in the 32-bit support-removal process (18.10 existed when 32-bit Ubuntu support was still a thing for new editions).
[21:47] <kc2bez[m]> that is true
[21:48] <arraybolt3[m]> It should hopefully not be too much of a problem to get it added back, though - it isn't for making 32-bit systems work, it's for making strange 64-bit systems work (and Ubuntu just did a whole bunch to make strange 64-bit systems work with changing BIOS boot to GRUB on the ISO).
[21:54]  * kc2bez[m] uploaded an image: (32KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/PgXrdpWJqepwaByisWYgJvjE/2022-07-03_17-54.png >
[21:54] <kc2bez[m]> It is in the package list on the cdrom
[21:54] <kc2bez[m]> The command we have should work.
[21:55] <arraybolt3[m]> Yeah, but that would be in the squashfs, not in the EFI directory of the ISO file itself, right?
[21:56] <kc2bez[m]> No, that is a little mini repository outside the squashfs
[21:57] <kc2bez[m]> You are right about the EFI directory though
[21:57] <arraybolt3[m]> Right, but I'm saying, it doesn't matter if Ubuntu thinks the package is there or not, what matters is if there's a "whatever.efi" file in EFI/boot/ubuntu of the ISO file.
[21:57] <kc2bez[m]> Very true
[21:57] <arraybolt3[m]> Sorry, I missed the message you sent just before I sent mine.
[21:58] <kc2bez[m]> all good
[22:01] <arraybolt3[m]> 23% done downloading Lubuntu 18.10.
[23:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Tested with Lubuntu 18.10, there are only x64 efi files and they don't work with 64-bit CPU + 32-bit EFI.
[23:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Maybe it was in a daily not the main release?
[23:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Or a devel ISO?
[23:12] <kc2bez[m]> I wonder if they turned EFI off in the bios
[23:13] <kc2bez[m]> Or hacked the iso
[23:14] <kc2bez[m]> I would've bet your paycheck that it worked :P
[23:23] <arraybolt3[m]> I'll try 19.04 next. Worst case scenario, I've got an idea for how to hack an ISO to work on 32-bit EFI. It would have to be an unofficial tool, but it might work.
[23:23] <arraybolt3[m]> (The 64-bit EFI files were there, just not the 32-bit ones.)
[23:24] <kc2bez[m]> Right, I don't know what climby did to make it work then.
[23:25] <kc2bez[m]> He somehow got it booted.


[06:32] <nsnzero> morning all
[06:46] <chesedo> morning nsnzero and all others
[06:48] <superfly> Night all
[06:48] <superfly> Another interview with Red Hat in just over 7 hours
[06:50] <chesedo> night and best of luck superfly
[07:13] <inetpro> goeiemore
[07:17] <nsnzero> morning chesedo inetpro
[07:43] <nsnzero> morning kilos
[07:44] <Kilos> morning nsnzero inetpro paddatrapper thatgraemeguy and other lurkers
[07:45]  * nsnzero goes to lurk in the school corridors
[07:58] <thatgraemeguy> hello hello
[08:11] <paddatrapper> Morning Kilos, everyone
[08:11] <nsnzero> hi thatgraemeguy paddatrapper
[08:12] <paddatrapper> Hi nsnzero
[09:20] <theblazehen> hi all
[10:00] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[10:13] <theblazehen> hi nsnzero
[11:05] <nsnzero> hi theblazehen Kilos jerit
[11:07] <jerit> hey nsnzero
[11:11] <jerit> On 16 March 2017 around 11h15 on the corners JG Strydom and Old Vereeniging road, Fox Tactical unit together with Backendowns SAPS and other security firms, as well as Afriforum and CPF held a special ops.They chased two suspects in the feld and apprehended them on Old Vereeniging road. The SAPS found a knife on one of the suspects which are being used in robbing people. A job very well done to all and everyone involved.
[11:12] <jerit> all of those resources for 2 suspects armed with 1 knife...
[11:25] <nsnzero> after many years of watching Macgyver i have a habit of carrying around a knife too ... but i upgrade to the 1 from rambo
[11:36] <jerit> I have a 12" hunting knife I bought for self defence
[11:36] <jerit> but I don't have a license to carry it
[12:06] <nsnzero> just dont take it out in public
[12:06] <nsnzero> have a good afternoon all
[12:11] <MaNI> worst special ops ever
[12:46] <andrewlsd_kiwi> Hey all. Am getting weird Quassel core issue atm. Can't connect to freenode. 6697
[12:48] <andrewlsd> weird Quassel issue
[12:48] <andrewlsd> seems to be sorted now. added a few of the extra ports like 7000 and 7070
[14:01] <Kilos> listen to the silence
[14:01] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[14:01]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[14:05] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[14:08] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[14:08] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[14:41] <jerit> MaNI: I know right, like wtf... a pair of cops could have done the same job, but they invest at least 30 people in it?
[14:42] <MaNI> maybe they were expecting something bigger, but don't want to call it a failure. Or maybe it's delibrate overkill, like using a shotgun to kill a snail or something
[14:42] <MaNI> "We are so tough on crime that if you have a knife we will track you down with 30 people from 10 different organisations" sort of thing
[14:42] <MaNI> heh
[14:43] <jerit> lol who even knows in SA anymore
[14:43] <jerit> The country that makes it legal for 12 year olds to consent to sex in order to lower the rate of statutory rape
[14:44] <jerit> The country that lowers the pass mark for different subjects so that they can say that more students are passing
[17:02] <nsnzero> good evening
[18:17] <inetpro> guten abend
[18:20] <inetpro> oh and hi to Kilos as well
[18:20] <Kilos> hi there inetpro
[18:20] <Kilos> i banned that thing in africa and bd
[18:20] <inetpro> ai!
[18:20] <Kilos> others are also offended by it
[18:20] <Kilos> what
[18:21] <Kilos> freenode too slow
[18:21] <Kilos> but good evening to you anyway
[18:22] <nasanzero> evening guys
[18:22] <Kilos> ni nasanzero
[18:23] <nasanzero> hi Kilos inetpro
[18:24] <nasanzero> just reading about amd ryzen cpu's - they are quiet good value for money
[18:31] <magellanic> until you convert to rands? :p
[18:34] <nasanzero> its expensive - $400 vs intel $1000
[18:35] <magellanic> did they release prices on the cheaper models, 3 and 5 I think it is? I know pricing for 7 was out
[18:36] <nasanzero> but its aimed at people that do video effects and encoding that already spend thousands (ten thousands)
[18:36] <magellanic> yeah
[18:36] <nasanzero> they are going to be released on 11 april but i cant confirm pricing as yet
[18:37] <magellanic> apparently intel dropped prices when the 7 was announced
[18:43] <nasanzero> at least they have a competitor to keep pricing down
[18:44] <magellanic> yeah +1
[18:49] <Kilos> ai! cellc
[18:50] <Kilos> hopefully their techie gets here soon, this is murder
[18:51] <magellanic> I got an sms from them today, saying there is more coverage in your area, and better speeds. Then I looked closely, and I was roaming :p
[18:52] <MaNI> remember to factor in motherboard prices when comparing as well, historically AMD motherboards tend to be somewhat cheaper than AMD ones here in za. No idea if that's going to be true for ryzen or not, but just saying for a full cost comparison you have to look at the whole picture ;)
[18:52] <MaNI> ergh cheaper than intel ones I mean
[18:54] <magellanic> yeah, I also wonder if it has built in graphics, like the intel hd stuff, because the hd stuff tends to work really well out that box with linux
[18:54] <nasanzero> thats true MaNI - plus the ryzen needs ddr4/3200 to be at its true power
[18:55] <nasanzero> i think all cpu come with built in graphics
[18:58] <magellanic> quick googling suggests they don't have integrated graphics, so factor in graphics card cost too, maybe
[19:00] <nasanzero> maybe its in the northbridge not the cpu itself
[19:01] <magellanic> ah yes
[19:02] <nasanzero> i am holding on to when 17" laptops get more affordable
[19:15] <MaNI> so over 17" laptops - such heavy clunky things, utter pain to travel with - I think the next laptop I have must be tiny.
[19:17] <nasanzero> what brand was it MaNI ? the high performance ones tend to be heavy
[19:18] <MaNI> HP, but it's not even a high performance one, those are even worse
[19:20] <magellanic> an ultrabook type thing, without stuff like dvd rom etc
[19:22] <nasanzero> chromebook ?
[19:23] <nasanzero> if there was linux for the nextbook - it would be nice as well
[19:23] <magellanic> yeah, but some of them are a pain to get linux onto, and ship without enough memory IMO
[19:24] <nasanzero> what happened to ubuntu phones and tablet ?
[19:25] <magellanic> no idea, I think phone was killed
[19:27] <nasanzero> the phone will have to compete against android -> thats already a very difficult battle
[19:27] <MaNI> sailfish seems the best hope for a proper linux smartphone at the moment, but it's a pretty faint hope
[19:28] <magellanic> yeah and firefox phone was killed too I believe
[19:30] <nasanzero> i think its the easy of use that really sells today -> simplified apps to do 1 thing
[19:32] <magellanic> and the addictive/entertainment stuff, social network, games, media streaming stuff
[19:32] <nasanzero> magellanic:  +1
[19:39] <nasanzero> playing around with a 10" laptop?/microtop - put mint 17 on it
[19:45] <magellanic> hope it isn't one of those intel atom jobs, I had one that drove me insane
[19:47] <nasanzero> ahh but it is
[19:48] <nasanzero> 512 ram 8G eMMC hdd
[19:48] <nasanzero> perfect for the terminal lover
[19:48] <nasanzero> now if i can only get a dark theme to work
[19:49] <magellanic> ouch yeah, I had ubuntu on mine and tried to browse and other basic things, just frustrated me
[19:54] <nasanzero> typing is difficulty on the small keyboard
[20:00] <magellanic> yeah and don't dare open a browser on it, they sell them with windows, I can't imagine how people use those things with windows
[20:01] <nasanzero> i am surprised that it runs mint very smoothly
[20:02] <magellanic> until you open a few apps :p
[20:03] <nasanzero> only need a terminal - mint is the only distro that installed properly every other 1 i tried kept failing at the very end - loading grub
[20:10] <nasanzero> good night all its was good talking to you magellanic and mani
[21:32] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:32] <Kilos> hi superfly night superfly


[18:47] <jenkins> evening all
[19:13] <daker> should we translate lucid-e2 ?
[19:19] <jenkins> I don't see why not
[20:37] <thorwil> godbyk: do you recall why some of the title page SVGs have lining figures and others text figures?
[21:00] <thorwil> godbyk: anyway, pushed title page SVGs with "10.10"
[21:33] <flan> Aww... jenkins didn't respond to my bragging. D:
[22:09] <flan> Did you get my random gloating, jenkins?
[22:09] <flan> Just asking so it doesn't stay in MemoServ forever.
[22:10] <flan> I should have the last two client-library functions written and documented for you by the time you wake up.
[22:11] <jenkins> I did get it thanks flan :) thats brilliant news
[22:11] <flan> I think you'll like the inline quality-conversion/thumbnail-generation features.
[22:12] <flan> They should help with keeping load down for people with closer connections to the server.
[22:12] <flan> slower*
[22:13] <jenkins> that does sound like a good idea, you are very clever fla
[22:13] <jenkins> n
[22:13]  * flan does not deal with flattery well.

[22:14] <flan> quality=0/quality=1..100 for PNG/JPEG. thumbnail=None/thumbnail=(x, y) for scaling.
[22:15] <flan> In case you want to limit the size of the viewport for either the reference or the most recent submission, in the event that the user wants to decide whether they should retake a screenshot.
[22:15] <jenkins> right makes sense
[22:15] <flan> Oh. Also, you can pass a tempfile to the uploader, so I'll be reworking the capture code to do that instead of writing a file to ~/.quickshot.
[22:16] <jenkins> ok I am putting logs in ~/.quickshot so they can go there still if you like
[22:17] <flan> We'll just need to store the reference string in memory when they go to take a screenshot so we can show it to them before and after they actually capture something, rather than have to hit the server twice. (If that fits with your flow)
[22:17] <flan> Oh, I know ~/.quickshot will still exist. I'm just saying we don't need to put a named tempfile in there. Less stuff for the process to manage.
[22:18]  * flan likes minimalism./
[22:18] <jenkins> yep thats cool
[22:26] <flan> Lemme know if you can think of any transformations that might be helpful additions to the image-access stuff.
[22:27] <flan> PIL exposes a lot of power.
[22:27] <jenkins> I will do I can't think of any at the moment
[22:39] <jenkins> hey daker
[22:40] <daker> jenkins, yep
[22:40] <jenkins> hows the quickshot site going?
[22:40] <daker> i need to fix the contact page
[22:40] <flan> We'll probably want to wait until any major bugs have been found during the Maverick test cycle before publishing it.
[22:41] <jenkins> sounds good, do let me/us know if there is any info you need
[22:41] <daker> jenkins, oki
[22:42] <flan> My info's available under red-hamsterx@launchpad or via 'whois uguu.ca'. The later's better for stalking.
[22:42] <daker> who is hosting qs.org ?
[22:42] <flan> Dunno.
[22:42] <flan> godbyk, do you know?
[22:47] <jenkins> I think kevin is
[22:49] <flan> Actually, there's an easy way to check.
[22:49] <flan> Yep.
[22:50] <flan> He's listed as the admin and tech. Someone names Horia Adelean registred it, though.
[22:50] <flan> (whois record)
[22:53] <jenkins> yep basiaclly some one randomly droped by and payed for the domain and told godbyk
[22:53] <flan> Crazy people.
[22:53] <jenkins> well I would thank them if i knew who it wa
[22:54] <jenkins> s
[22:54] <flan> Oh, well.  It's a three-year registration.
[23:04] <jenkins> wow thats well cool
[23:04] <jenkins> how do you find this all out?
[23:04] <flan> whois.
[23:04] <jenkins> has anyone got the htc desire?
[23:05] <flan> New terminal -> "whois quickshot.org"
[23:06] <jenkins> thats great we must contact them]
[23:06] <flan> If you ever need to yell at a (small) ISP over some technical issue, look them up and contact the listed tech -- it'll usually be someone in network operations, which means they're generally well-suited to address your concerns.
[23:06] <flan> Same for most businesses.
[23:07] <godbyk> Yeah, they just stopped buy and bought the domain -- it was the first domain name they'd ever purchased, even.
[23:07] <godbyk> And I don't recall seeing them since.
[23:07] <flan> They must love us. o.o
[23:07] <flan> Me and my weird emoticon-auto-response.
[23:08] <godbyk> Unfortunately, a lot of whois records now just have placeholder info for the contact information. So it's hard to contact people directly.
[23:08] <flan> Hency why I qualified that with 'small'.
[23:08] <godbyk> (It's usually to try to reduce the amount of spam you get -- both electronic mail and snail mail.)
[23:09] <flan> It's a bit harder to get away with placeholder info in Canada.
[23:09] <flan> CIRA demands real contacts.
[23:09] <godbyk> I'm a bit old-fashioned, though, and still trust people now to be mean and prefer to have my contact information readily available.
[23:09] <flan> Same.
[23:09] <godbyk> I think that most registrars require real info, but then a lot of them let you mask that info so it doesn't appear publicly.
[23:10] <flan> This is also true.
[23:10] <godbyk> They assign you some random garbage email address that forwards, etc.
[23:10]  * flan goes home to write more code.


[07:48] <dholbach> good morning
[08:50] <dpm> mzanetti, morning o/ rpadovani pinged me saying he cannot make it to today's meeting, and I've still got a few things to sort out regarding the new developer.ubuntu.com announcement. Would you mind if we postpone today's meeting and we have perhaps an ad-hoc call later on in the day?
[09:20] <mzanetti> dpm: ok. works or me. I just wouldn't like to completely skip it again
[09:21] <dpm> mzanetti, yeah, I figured so
[09:21] <dpm> ok, let's talk later on, then
[09:21] <mzanetti> ack
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Free Shipping Day! :-D
[10:17] <justCarakas> whoooo order ALL the stuff
[10:23] <dholbach> dpm, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/1403814/+merge/245084
[10:26]  * dpm hugs dholbach
[10:26] <dpm> dholbach, reviewed, added a small comment
[10:27] <dholbach> haha, yes
[10:28] <dholbach> dpm, updated and pushed some other small fixes
[10:29] <dholbach> I <3 the new developer site
[10:30] <dpm> yeah
[10:36] <dholbach> pushed another fix
[10:45] <dholbach> dpm, sorry for pushing a bunch of other fixes into the same branch - they were all related to string fixes / translations though :)
[10:46] <dpm> dholbach, that's fine, will look at them in a few mins
[10:49] <dholbach> cool
[11:30] <popey> ☹ my backup took way too long, figured out that /var/lib/schroot/mount... has a link to /home in it, so I was backing up my /home 3 times.. bzoltan_ zbenjamin is there another way to expose /home in that schroot?
[11:30] <mrjenskay> join jens_chat
[11:33] <bzoltan_> popey: there is only one way to expose a folder to chroot... but the schroot mounts are thre troublemakers, we are working on them right now. It is fundamentally an schroot issue.
[11:33] <popey> ok
[11:33]  * popey excludes them from backups for now
[11:52] <bzoltan_> popey:  we are working on a solution that the SDK keeps an eye on the mount points and  umounts them when needed. But I will check if the /home is really necessary  there
[14:19] <ahayzen> jdstrand, ping
[15:04] <mzanetti> dpm: hey
[15:08] <dpm> hey mzanetti, not ignoring you, I've been in calls up until now, sorry
[15:09] <mzanetti> dpm: just wanted to let you know that the push server is being deployed as we speak
[15:09] <dpm> oh, wow!
[15:09] <dpm> nice work with the client implementation and working with the server guys
[15:10] <mzanetti> dpm: so I guess we'll get the production url in a bit, please try to get that enabled by the evernote guys asap so I can test my app properly
[15:12] <dpm> mzanetti, ok, I'll see what I can do, but to set expectations, asap with Xmas holiday coming up might be a bit relative :)
[15:12] <mzanetti> yeah, I know
[15:12] <mzanetti> but in case there's someone sitting there till tomorrow it'd be great if he gets that ticket still
[15:12] <mzanetti> shouldn't be a huge effort for them to activate it
[18:06] <dpm> mhall119, added you to the site editors team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntudeveloperportal-editors/+members
[23:44] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Hello! o/ I have made a few changes to the sub reddit css if you want to check it out :D Just made a a little nicer if you can even notice it haha¬!