[00:01] <maheanuu> IaOra Everyone, I am having a snit trying to set up the laptop on wireless, I have been using Cat5 all these years and just received my Asus TF700 Tablet, I want to network the tablet and the computer in a wireless home network , the tablet sees the Router an NetGear13 and as long as I am cat5, the notebook works fine but it will not recognize the router even with the wireless on the notebook turned on, could use some help in walking th
[00:01] <maheanuu> ru the setup for the notebook
[00:03] <Ramsrambo> I am on Ubuntu 12.10 on a pentium 4 desktop I did a clean install and I keep getting this error "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error"
[00:06] <Ramsrambo> anyone here pl. respond
[00:06] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo, I see you
[00:07] <maheanuu> I am not sure on the 12.10 errors, as I have not gotten any higher than 12.04
[00:07] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : respond to my query Pl.
[00:07] <washuu_de> What kind of questions may I ask here?
[00:08] <Ramsrambo> anyone else
[00:08] <IboS> hello
[00:09] <washuu_de> how to avoid the new platform
[00:09] <IboS> i'm looking for someone called gerd knorr
[00:09] <IboS> he created the webcamd command on linux
[00:09] <sammuchann> Im new to ubuntu, and I'm confsed should I get antivirus or not is there even antivirus software?
[00:10] <ukbeast> I have a sandybridge driver and I get http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z447/Aaron_Holmes1/Screenshotfrom2013-01-22000723_zpsbafdf6db.png graphic artefacts
[00:10] <k1l_> !antivirus | sammuchann
[00:10] <washuu_de> when updating to oneiric
[00:11] <k1l_> !notunity | washuu_de
[00:11] <blkadder> sammuchann: ClamAV seems to be the most commonly used solution.
[00:11] <Ramsrambo> How do I add swap to my clean install now ?
[00:11] <ukbeast> http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z447/Aaron_Holmes1/Screenshotfrom2013-01-22000723_zpsbafdf6db.png has anyone else gotten this
[00:12] <k1l_> IboS: how does that related to ubuntu support?
[00:12] <maheanuu_> I have been trying to learn linux/ubuntu for over a year now, and am the only one on the island that uses it, besides i only deal in english and here it is either Tahitian or French, and my tech ability there is worse than it is in english
[00:12] <washuu_de> !nounity
[00:12] <IboS> k1l_: where to look for then ?
[00:12] <IboS> how to contact the autor of a programm ?
[00:13] <k1l_> IboS: look in the manpage
[00:13] <ukbeast> so unity is causing these glitches?
[00:13] <maheanuu_> test
[00:13] <Ramsrambo> How do I add swap to my clean install now ? on ubuntu 12.10
[00:14] <ukbeast> So I switch to gnome3?
[00:14] <washuu_de> Should I install  gnome-shell after the upgrade. Is that what ubotto wants to tell me?
[00:14] <escott> !gnome3 | ukbeast
[00:15] <escott> Ramsrambo, if you dont have space for a partition you can make a swapfile
[00:15] <k1l_> washuu_de: do you know what you want in the first place?
[00:16] <washuu_de> I want to upgrade without having Unity as platform
[00:16] <k1l_> washuu_de: the bots message tells you to go with gnome-panel if you want a gnome2 lookalike
[00:16] <washuu_de> Hi k1l...
[00:16] <maheanuu_> I am not finding Network Manager anywhere in 12.04, but going Cat5 I work fine thru the router, and my Asus TF700 wireless hooks up perfectly, I am trying to get the both together on wireless so that I can use the notebook when I go interisle to Papeete and Moorea
[00:16] <Ramsrambo> escott: pl guide me creating it now bcos free is showing nothing
[00:16] <ukbeast> thanks, I'll try that
[00:17] <modem> who needs networkmanager
[00:17]  * modem uses wpa_supplicant all the way.
[00:17] <maheanuu_> washu
[00:17] <escott> Ramsrambo, find the section "Four-step Process to Add Swap File"
[00:17] <escott> Ramsrambo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F
[00:17] <washuu_de> Will that work after the upgrade. I just install the gnome package ?
[00:18] <maheanuu_> washuu_de,  I removed the Unity asap as I hated it, and went back to the classic
[00:19] <maheanuu_> modem, I cannot find anyway to go wireless on the notebook, but it worked before I did my last upgrade
[00:19] <washuu_de> @mahenuu So you know how to :-)
[00:20] <washuu_de> @maheanuu So you know how to :-)
[00:20] <maheanuu_> I fumbled my way through it, by using Google and asking lots and lots of questions
[00:20] <maheanuu_> washuu_de, that above was for you
[00:21] <maheanuu_> I am still learning, not as fast as before, at the ripe ol age of 75 my synapses are slowing down a bit
[00:22] <washuu_de> I must have missed it. Paste it to chat, please.
[00:22] <maheanuu_> washuu_de, Google "Removing Unity and returning to Gnome and bob's yer uncle
[00:23] <wjtaylor> what package installs the xchat indicator in gnome?
[00:23] <maheanuu_> I have spent the better part of today trying to set up home networking between my new tablet and my old Toshiba Laptop...
[00:23] <xeta> new user, new install, trying to troubleshoot bluetooth dev, a scribbler2 robot connecting to an azio doggle...
[00:24] <xeta> bluetooth manager connects and pairs...python shell wont init rfcomm
[00:24] <maheanuu_> wjtaylor, do an "apt-get install xchat and you should have no problems that is in the terminal
[00:24] <econdudeawesome> Howdy. I'm trying to open a FoxPro CDX file -- i think it's a metadata file for a .DBF file?-- any one know of a valid program that works? The encoding seems odd when I use head/cat or python to view
[00:25] <maheanuu_> wjtaylor, do not use the quotation mark
[00:25] <wjtaylor> maheanuu_: I did, but it doesn't minimize to the tray in gnome...
[00:25] <xeta> got it to work once but cant replicate it
[00:26] <maximo> Msg nickserv identify Maximo
[00:26] <econdudeawesome> ouch...
[00:26] <maheanuu_> Mine doesn't either, I have to go to Applications to open it
[00:27] <maheanuu_> wjtaylor, the above post is for you
[00:27] <pwf> has anyone seen hulu struggle with HD video?
[00:27] <pwf> youtube 1080p is smooth as butter
[00:27] <Scunizi> This is unusual.. I've got an mp4 video from a camcorder that plays in every other video player that I have EXCEPT VLC.  It did a week ago and now doesn't. I figure I messed something up but I can't find the possible switch.  Both video and audio are gone but it looks like it's playing. Any suggestions welcome
[00:27] <pwf> hulu can barely do 'medium'
[00:27] <wjtaylor> the joke is I figured this out before, but forgot to write it down....
[00:28] <escott> pwf, hulu is flash so thats not very surprising
[00:28] <maheanuu_> wjtaylor, I have the same prob, but at the age of 75 I have an excuse
[00:30] <washuu_de><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:30] <pwf> escott: youtube is flash too
[00:30] <pwf> it works great
[00:30] <washuu_de> damn... wrong
[00:30] <maheanuu_> Anyone available to help me walk thru a wireless homenetwork setup on a Toshiba laptop with Ubuntu 12.04 installed and a Asus TF700 Running fine on wireless
[00:30] <escott> pwf, are you sure you are using flash based youtube not HTML5?
[00:31] <washuu_de> g'night
[00:31] <pwf> html5 youtube has hardware acceleration? hmmm
[00:31] <Ramsrambo> escott : Thanks for that link I was able to add the swap and free is showing the actual available free swap mem now
[00:31] <pwf> no it's flash, i see the flash menu when i do right click > settings
[00:31]  * washuu_de is away: Away
[00:32] <escott> pwf, in that case the videos must be encoded in such a way as to be easier to decode
[00:32] <pwf> it does say playback is accelerated, but not decoding
[00:32] <pwf> how can i enable hardware decoding? is it just hardware dependent?
[00:32] <pwf> i need to upgrage the CPU in my htpc anyways
[00:32] <pwf> i guess that's how i'll solve it
[00:33] <maximo> question: how do I check my present version?
[00:33] <tekkbuzz> anyone know the command to find the Not-Installed pkg. containing some file?
[00:33] <quinn_> Hey everyone, Ubuntu is a little slow on my machine, and it seems to be graphics related
[00:34] <Ramsrambo> escott: Just one more Q I keep getting this "sorry ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error" for most apps that I access
[00:34] <quinn_> Do you think it would be ok to install the nonfree driver?
[00:34] <maheanuu> bak, dunno where I went, but sure left here for outer space I guess
[00:34] <escott> Ramsrambo, i dont know what you expect us to say about that
[00:35] <escott> Ramsrambo, i've got a light that comes on in my car every time i drive it. what should I do?
[00:35] <Ramsrambo> escott: Is it bcos my desktop is too old for this version of ubuntu
[00:36] <maheanuu> My major problem is trying to put together the questions so most of you can understand what I am trying to say
[00:36] <Joschii> moin
[00:36] <Joschii> hi
[00:37] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo, do you mean you get the error when you try to open  VLC, or read a file  or what?
[00:38] <maximo> question: need to find out my version of ubuntu so to upgrade it?
[00:38] <Ramsrambo> escott : Yes, video, eveloution, all the utilities ....
[00:38] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo,  escott, has left
[00:39] <maheanuu> Have you tried to do an automatic upgrade?
[00:39] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : yeah! sorry I took him for the reply
[00:39] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo, I know I get lost in here a lot also
[00:39] <quinn_> with laptop-mode-tools, is it install and forget or do you have to do something else?
[00:40] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : Nope I did a clean install
[00:40] <quinn_> !info laptop-mode-tools
[00:40] <fbdystang> Hi, I have a ubuntu 11.04 server that I would like to manage remotely. What is the best and most effective way to do this?
[00:41] <quinn_> Probably SSH
[00:41] <maheanuu> A clean install does not upgrade the drivers all the time and like myself, after I did the last upgrade, I lost all my passwords and a lot more and have just about caught up again
[00:41] <k1l_> fbdystang: you should consider upgrading the server first. 11.04 is out of support
[00:42] <fbdystang> I am running an open ACS server that requires an old postgresql version, so updates don't work
[00:42] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : what can I do now ? to get rid of this problem
[00:43] <maheanuu> Where I am, no one uses Linux, and if they did they would not help, knowledge is power here, and you do NOT let that get away from you...   Bein an old navy chiefm, I believe that the more I work with others the more we both learn and the better off we all are, but that is just me
[00:44] <fbdystang> Does SSH provide a GUI or just command line? If GUI, please point in direction.
[00:44] <quinn_> I believe there are GUIs for SSH
[00:44] <quinn_> I wouldn't know for sure though
[00:44] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : I appreciate your view towards solving a problem
[00:48] <vifanq> How to configure a wifi interface? I had it as option during installation, but I selected to use ethernet
[00:49] <maheanuu> test
[00:50] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo, try this
[00:51] <apophisss> hi, looking for some direction... i set up a friend with 12.04 last night at a location with no network... it's a stock 12.04 32 bit install, i'd like to burn some packages (vlc, plugins for video, etc) on dvd to transport it to the computer and update
[00:51] <apophisss> i'm wondering if there is an easy way to download the packages as well as their dependancies?
[00:51] <maheanuu> vifanq, I am trying to find out the same thing, but no answers so far
[00:52] <quinn_> I can't adjust the brightness on my laptop, it just stays the same
[00:52] <quinn_> How do I change it?
[00:52] <maheanuu> I have a tablet working fine on wifim, but the notebook running ubuntu doesn't even see the router unless I am cat 5 to it
[00:54] <FunkyELF> If I want to use proprietary drivers should I go with NVidia or AMD?
[00:54] <maheanuu> I do not, apparently have any drivers for wifi in Ubuntu 12.04.....   I did before I upgraded last week, and now that I have the tablet, I want to network the 2 and also gain the ability to work together, but no joy
[00:54] <FunkyELF> which has the best experience on Ubuntu?
[00:55] <maheanuu> FunkyELF, what are you running
[00:55] <quinn_> NVIDIA by far
[00:55] <quinn_> Intel's the best in my experience though
[00:55] <apophisss> hi, looking for some direction... i set up a friend with 12.04 last night at a location with no network... it's a stock 12.04 32 bit install, i'd like to burn some packages (vlc, plugins for video, etc) on dvd to transport it to the computer and update
[00:55] <apophisss> i'm wondering if there is an easy way to download the packages as well as their dependancies?
[00:55] <quinn_> I'm on an AMD computer and I hate it
[00:55] <mojtaba> Hi,
[00:55] <tripelb> Help, I got a bad install and got stuck in grub recovery. Can't get to windows. Maybe I did something wrong in partition, I gave it one partition, figured swap and whatever would be carved out of the 20G. Right now I want to get the copy of lubuntu I downloaded off my nexus 7 and I need windows for that. Then the future....
[00:56] <FunkyELF> maheanuu, what do you mean?  I have a 1090T 6 core processor w/ 8GB RAM and a video card that I'm likely to return within 30 days
[00:56] <mojtaba> Does anybody know a step by step tutorial to configure openvpn?
[00:56] <mojtaba> I am pretty new to linux
[00:56] <mojtaba> If anybody knows movie, that is better.
[00:56] <mojtaba> :)
[00:56] <wjtaylor_> I found the way to add the xchat to the systray in gnome if anyone cares....
[00:57] <mojtaba> I want to configure openvpn on my computer in office and use to connect to it from windows and android.
[00:57] <mojtaba> Because actually I am going to go to the trip.
[00:57] <tripelb> mojtaba: did you try this http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html
[00:57] <PoolShark_> hi hi
[00:57] <mojtaba> I want to pass the filtering.
[00:58] <FunkyELF> quinn_, what about video acceleration?  I have a Radeon HD 7700 that I got last week.  I've installed Ubuntu 2 or 3 times, Linux Mint 4 or 5 times with different desktop environments trying to get good performance out of this card.  Just today with the newly released (yesterday) 13.1 fglrx drivers I finally have okay performance, but I was looking at switching to NVidia
[00:58] <mojtaba> Any simpler step by step documentation or movie is highly appreciated.
[00:58] <tripelb> Welcome mojtaba
[00:58] <mojtaba> tripelb: Thank you very much
[00:58] <maheanuu> FunkyELF, I am running an ASUS TF700 with 64 Gigs and a 32Gig mini Sd and it is fantastic, running wireless, but I am stuck on Cat5 on this Toshiba and I cannot find anyway to set up any wireless at all
[00:58] <tripelb> !ask | mojtaba
[00:59] <mojtaba> ubottu: ok, thanks
[00:59] <mojtaba> tripelb: what is !ask | mojtaba
[00:59] <mojtaba> ?
[01:00] <tripelb>  wjtaylor I care, after I vet it installed that is. Groan. Tell me. OK tomPM too.
[01:00] <maheanuu> Without wireless, at present, I cannot network the tablet and the laptop,
[01:00] <memand> !ubottu | mojtaba
[01:00] <mojtaba> ubottu: ok
[01:00] <mojtaba> Thank you
[01:01] <tripelb>  wjtaylor_  (correctnick) I care, after I vet it installed that is. Groan. Tell me. OK tomPM too.
[01:01] <Nasuga> Does anybody have an idea on how to restore grub after installing Windows XP with a live cd of ubuntu?
[01:03] <marshall> hey ubuntu
[01:03] <tripelb> mojtaba: look up, it makes the info-bot ubottu  tell you something. The thing is they want the entire question on one line. Then you wait. I am waiting, meanwhile, I found your VPN tutorial. Cool eh?
[01:04] <mojtaba> tripelb: what is info-bot?
[01:04] <memand> Nasuga: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[01:04] <Nasuga> memand: Thansk
[01:04] <mojtaba> tripelb: Thank you by the way.
[01:04] <memand> np
[01:04] <tripelb>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:05] <marshall> how do I make it so that when a user runs a certain shell script, all of the files they create will belong to a group that the user belongs to, but isn't their primary group? is there a way to say "just use this group as the primary group for this shell session"?
[01:05] <apophisss> hi, looking for some direction... i set up a friend with 12.04 last night at a location with no network... it's a stock 12.04 32 bit install, i'd like to burn some packages (vlc, plugins for video, etc) on dvd to transport it to the computer and update
[01:05] <apophisss> i'm wondering if there is an easy way to download the packages as well as their dependancies?
[01:06] <airdem> is it okay to backup / via "tar -cpf"?
[01:06] <hd1> can I burn a bootable usb key of Ubuntu, if so, how?
[01:07] <Ubunturific> using what OS to create the Key?
[01:07] <apophisss> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:07] <memand> marshall: You could write some aliases into the ~.bashrc
[01:08] <ubuntu-tester> apophisss: apt-get download
[01:08] <apophisss> he has no internet from the computer
[01:08] <barbori4_> has anyone ever backed up their is cisco ios to ubuntu
[01:08] <apophisss> i have internet from mine, want to dl the packages and transport on burned DVD to the computer
[01:08] <quinn_> I can't change the brightness on my laptop, what's going on?
[01:09] <hd1> Mac OS X, Ubunturific
[01:09] <barbori4_> I just need link that shows me what to do to back up my router IOS to my linux machine
[01:09] <tripelb> This channel is only for tech question and answer. Often is helps busy. This is the side talk channel entry command. I just joined it.   /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:09] <tripelb> This channel is only for tech question and answer. Often is helps busy. This is the side talk channel entry command. I just joined it.   /join #ubuntu-offtopic mojtaba
[01:09] <apophisss> quinn_ the FN+brightness keys don't work? Brightness and lock in the control panel doesn't work?
[01:10] <memand> apophisss: apt-get download [package] downloads the .deb file
[01:11] <apophisss> with dependancies?
[01:11] <craigbass1976> quinn_, what are you running?  I was about to ask the same thing.  Acer 7750 here, but a 5517 worked great.
[01:11] <ubuntu-tester> apophisss: or better: apt-get install --download-only [packages...]
[01:11] <quinn_> I have an Acer AO725-0487
[01:11] <quinn_> The meter and fn keys display and work
[01:12] <quinn_> but the brightness itself does not change
[01:12] <ubuntu-tester> apophisss: then burn package cache to CD
[01:12] <apophisss> i'd like to build the dvd from a windows machine...
[01:12]  * hd1 wonders if http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/files/URR/iso/ubuntu-rescue-remix-12-04.iso will work for rescuing his ubuntu installation
[01:12] <memand> quinn_: have they been working before?
[01:13] <craigbass1976> memand, probably not.  I'm reading a lot about trouble with them.
[01:15] <quinn_> no, this is a new install
[01:16] <apophisss> if i grab the vlc package from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/vlc download it with all the listed dependencies, will it work with a non-updated stock install of 12.04 32 bit?
[01:16] <tripelb> I found some manual partitioning instructions so I am leaving to try them on my own. I see I have to create swap etc and did not. Onward.
[01:17] <Baribal> Hi. I want to update only grub-pc to proposed, so I wrote this /etc/apt/preferences: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1557187/     However, when I do apt-get update, I see no mention of proposed, and apt-get install grub-pc won't update the pacage. What am I doing wrong?
[01:17] <quinn_> no, this is a new install
[01:18] <fooooooo> hello all can someone tell me how to display temperature in Celsius rather than Fahrenheit for ubuntu and xsensors
[01:19] <memand> quinn_: try doing 'cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness |& curl -F sprunge=@- sprunge.us' and send me the link that comes back :)
[01:20] <Pez_2012> a
[01:21] <mojtaba> Did you find any tutorial for openvpn?
[01:21] <maheanuu> Well, I guess that it is back to Google, and the mine,  perhaps my questions are too easy for the hoi paloi, or I just do not know how to ask them, as pretty much usual, I end up working for about a week finding out how to do these things on my own.......
[01:22] <mojtaba> server and client side is highly appreciated.
[01:23] <memand> quinn_: u there?
[01:24] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: have you read the official one? http://openvpn.net/howto.html
[01:25] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: That is difficult for me as I am new to linux era.
[01:25] <craigbass1976> quinn_, you have a number pad on your laptop?
[01:27] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: but vpn setup isn't something that can be done with one click, without understanding, cause it's about security
[01:28] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: Do you know any step by step video?
[01:28] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: you have to learn some tech details
[01:28] <memand> craigbass1976: I think quinn_ fell asleep :P
[01:29] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: If you know any step by step movie like, please kindly share it with me.
[01:29] <mojtaba> :)
[01:29] <craigbass1976> memand, Aww, balls.  I just fixed my number pad and thought he'd (she'd?) like to know.
[01:29] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: alternatively, you can use one of paid vpn services, they provide one-click solutions
[01:30] <dfc302> whats up guys
[01:30] <memand> craigbass1976: what fixed it?
[01:30] <mojtaba> Actually I want to configure it on my computer in my office and connect to it to dismiss filtering while I am away.
[01:30] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: Actually I want to configure it on my computer in my office and connect to it to dismiss filtering while I am away.
[01:31] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: i don't know any video guides (you can search youtube). but i can help you with setup
[01:31] <memand> dfc302: sup?
[01:31] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: Actually I have installed it, but I really do appreciate if you can help me.
[01:31] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: pm me
[01:32] <craigbass1976> changing XKBOPTIONS="" to XKBOPTIONS="numpad:microsoft" in /etc/default/keyboard
[01:32] <craigbass1976> memand, ^^
[01:32] <craigbass1976> memand, the brightness solutions look like HACKS...
[01:32] <memand> craigbass1976: Aaah, the good old "made by MS" probæem :P
[01:33] <memand> *problem
[01:34] <craigbass1976> memand, they DO cause a lot of problems, don't they...
[01:35] <memand> craigbass1976: Let's just say that I'm not a fan
[01:37] <sfdve1213> anyone here support with Netflix-desktop install?
[01:37] <dr_willis> sfdve1213:  all i can say is that it worked for me.. other then that..  ;)
[01:37] <dr_willis> sfdve1213:  and it can be sluggish
[01:38] <sfdve1213> dr_willis: ok. I was trying to install it on Mint13 and got to the player; I have sound but no video
[01:38] <memand> craigbass1976: /etc/default/keyboard is where ubuntu keeps it's keyboar bindings? Or is it where it sets the kb setup?
[01:39] <craigbass1976> memand, I think setup.  Wouldn't bindings be somewhee in ~/ ?
[01:39] <memand> craigbass1976: Yeah, I think you'r right about that ;)
[01:40] <memand> craigbass1976: I can't say for sure though since I'm not on a ubuntu setup. But yeah probably somewhere in ~/.config/*
[01:44] <dr_willis> i rarely mess with keybindings.. some are handled by gnome some are handled by compiz
[01:46] <memand> dr_willis: True that :) I'm wondering why no one is taking up the task of making a better composite manager than compiz (that can do equally awesome stuff)
[01:47] <dr_willis> memand:  because its a thankless grueling task. ;)
[01:48] <memand> dr_willis: Aint everything made for Linux just that? ;)
[01:48] <php42> hello, how do i restore backups using backup-manager ?
[01:48] <php42> i'm doing incremental backups to S3
[01:49] <dr_willis> memand:   ever check out 'metesse' (i think i spelt it right) it was a WM/desktop that had neater features then compiz
[01:51] <helloworld> Hello World! I have ubuntu installed, but i would like to switch to linux mint. my computer does not have a disk drive. does anyone know how to do this?
[01:52] <craigbass1976> memand, fixed brightness too!
[01:52] <dr_willis> helloworld:  you mean you have no cdrom drive?
[01:52] <Hilikus> how can i check if a burnt iso is not corrupted?
[01:52] <jda2000> helloworld, does you computer have PXE boot capability.
[01:52] <memand> dr_willis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbrfy-HN4Gw
[01:52] <dr_willis> !md5 | Hilikus
[01:53] <helloworld> there is not optical drive, and i do not know what PXE boot capability is
[01:53] <jda2000> helloworld, Or should I say can it boot from the network adapter?
[01:53] <dr_willis> Hilikus:  check the md5 sum of the burnt cd
[01:53] <helloworld> it can do that
[01:53] <dr_willis> helloworld:  use a bootable flash drive.. and i really suggest just sticking to Ubuntu
[01:53] <dr_willis> the cd also has some sort of verify option i thought
[01:53] <Hilikus> dr_willis: i saw that one, but it is to checksum the original iso and compare it to a number online, what i want is to checksum the created cd with all the files inside to see if it matches the content of the original iso
[01:54] <jda2000> helloworld, I guess I should have asked if you can boot from a flas drive first.
[01:54] <dr_willis> Hilikus:  if the checksum of the burnt cd  is the same as the iso. that sort of confirms its good.
[01:54] <memand> jda2000: :P
[01:54] <Hilikus> dr_willis: how do i checksum a cd? it will give one checksum for each file, whereas the iso is a single file
[01:55] <dr_willis> Hilikus:  i recall the live cds haveing some verify option that checked the files also.
[01:55] <dr_willis>  Hilikus  md5sum /dev/cdrom
[01:55] <php42> dr_willis++
[01:55] <helloworld_> sorry, my computer derped
[01:56] <helloworld_> was it jda2000 that was helping me?
[01:57] <jda2000> it was dr_willis
[01:57] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  booting/installing from flash drive is commonplace.. i suggest sticking to ubuntu.
[01:57] <helloworld_> ok.
[01:57] <helloworld_> i tried to install from a USB, but it did not work
[01:58] <dr_willis> then either you made the usb wrong, or dident tell the pc to boot the usb.. or it cant boot fromusb
[01:58] <Crazy_Spai> Q: Is there a way to reset your theme and all with Unity?
[01:58] <jda2000> helloworld_, USB flash or DVD?
[01:58] <Crazy_Spai> I have a weird issues where menu items have a white background but white text as well.
[01:58] <Crazy_Spai> It's quite buggy.
[01:58] <quinn_> I installed the proprietary AMD driver and now it has a watermark that says it's unsupported. I'm at a tty right now and I NEED THIS TO WORK VERY SOON. PLEASE HELP
[01:58] <dr_willis> Crazy_Spai:  all your settings are in .compiz and .config for the most part. You could rename those 2 dirs. and relog in
[01:58] <quinn_> I need to get back to the open source driver
[01:58] <Crazy_Spai> dr_willis: Thank you very much.
[01:58] <adamk> quinn_: So uninstall the proprietary driver.
[01:58] <helloworld_> when i booted from the usb, it said "non-system disk. press any key to reboot"
[01:58] <quinn_> How?
[01:59] <dr_willis> quinn_:  i belive theres a answer to that on askubuntu.com how to turnoff the watermark
[01:59] <memand> quinn_: What drivers did you install for what?
[01:59] <quinn_> flgrx or whatever for a Radeon 7290
[01:59] <adamk> quinn_: Presumably you used the Ubuntu driver installer (jockey) to install the drivers, right, since that's the supported method?  Just use the jockey to turn it off.
[01:59] <jda2000> helloworld_, so it didn't get far enough along to break you ubuntu system.....
[01:59] <quinn_> But if the GUI doesn't work...
[02:00] <adamk> You didn't say the GUI doesn't work...
[02:00] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=amd+watermark
[02:00] <helloworld_> jda2000: what does that mean
[02:00] <quinn_> I said I was at a TTY, but I can't be pedantic right now
[02:00] <adamk> quinn_: So use 'apt-get remove fglrx*' to remove fglrx.
[02:00] <jda2000> helloworld_, you can still boot ubuntu?
[02:00] <adamk> quinn_: Maybe you can't, but I can.  What you said is not the same as "the GUI isn't working" :-)
[02:01] <julian-delphiki> there are other ways to get to a TTY than having the gui not work
[02:01] <julian-delphiki> so, adamk is correct
[02:01] <quinn_> Okay, it's removing
[02:01] <helloworld_> jda2000: if I remove the flash drive or change the boot priority, ubuntu loads normally
[02:02] <adamk> quinn_: As dr_willis said, you could also go through the steps to remove the watermark, but you will also need to check the Xorg log file to see why Xorg failed in the first place.
[02:02] <jda2000> helloworld_, OK, how much free space do you have on your hard drive?
[02:02] <quinn_> Restarting the computer..
[02:03] <helloworld_> jda2000: im not sure about the free space, but the whole thing is 160 gigs
[02:03] <n3tw0rk401> Xorg -configure
[02:03] <n3tw0rk401> that will create a new xorg file for you
[02:03] <jda2000> helloworld_, try df
[02:03] <helloworld_> hold on
[02:04] <helloworld_> jda200: it says 542664
[02:04] <quinn_> I had another question - brightness adjustment doesn't work on my machine. The FN keys show the little toggle menu, and the bar will move according to how I press buttons
[02:04] <quinn_> But the brightness of the screen itself does not change.
[02:05] <jda2000> helloworld_, have you backe everything up?
[02:05] <memand> quinn_: try doing 'cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness |& curl -F sprunge=@- sprunge.us' and send me the link that comes back :)
[02:05] <jda2000> helloworld_, have you backed everything up?
[02:05] <helloworld_> no, but there is nothing on m system i want to keep
[02:06] <quinn_> The first command comes up saying 0
[02:06] <n3tw0rk401> echo "7" > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[02:06] <jda2000> helloworld_, what did you put on the USB drive before you tried to boot it?
[02:06] <quinn_> The first command comes up saying 0
[02:06] <helloworld_> jda2000: like, ever?
[02:07] <quinn_> curling the link
[02:07] <ubuntu> "/server rizonbnc.us.rizon.net 1234 sh1nji:kil.,m
[02:07] <quinn_> nothing's coming up so far
[02:07] <ubuntu> 0-o
[02:08] <jda2000> helloworld_, no, how did you prepare it for the install.
[02:09] <quinn_> Nothing's coming up with that curl
[02:09] <quinn_> ....
[02:10] <memand> quinn_: try 'cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness |& curl -F sprunge=@- sprunge.us'
[02:10] <helloworld_> jda2000: i used unetbootin to make a bootable usb with the iso i wanted, i plugged it in, changed the bios settings
[02:11] <quinn_> Max brightness comes up as 10
[02:11] <jda2000> helloworld_, that sounds about right.
[02:12] <quinn_> Nothing's coming up with curl
[02:12] <quinn_> !info curl
[02:12] <helloworld_> jda2000: but when i boot up, it says "non-system disk. press any key to reboot"
[02:12] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  sounds like either the usb was made wrong. or its not seeing the usb first
[02:12] <jda2000> helloworld_, What kind of CPU do you have?
[02:12] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: what happened then you curl'd
[02:12] <memand> quinn_: Ok, then try 'sudo echo 10 > sudo /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness'
[02:13] <helloworld_> jda200: i have no idea
[02:13] <jda2000> helloworld_, This is just a shot in the dark but did you remove the USB from the drive before you re-booted?
[02:13] <helloworld_> jda2000: no
[02:14] <jda2000> helloworld_, This is just a shot in the dark but did you remove the USB from the socket.
[02:14] <helloworld_> jda2000: no
[02:15] <jda2000> helloworld_, at this point it looks like something went wrong with the preparation of the USB drive but I don't have a clue as to what.
[02:15] <cfhowlett> helloworld_, drives do go bad ...
[02:15] <memand> quinn_: Did anything happen when you did 'sudo echo 10 > sudo /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness' ?
[02:15] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  theres alterantive tools to make usb flash from isos at the pendrivelinux web site
[02:16] <Corey> memand: NO.
[02:16] <Corey> memand: You cannot redirect the output of sudo.
[02:16] <quinn_> let me check
[02:16] <helloworld_> jda2000: when i look at the files on the usb, there are some .exe files. does this mean the os i want can only be installed on windows?
[02:16] <Corey> !sudotee
[02:16] <jda2000> helloworld_, That
[02:16] <quinn_> Didn't work
[02:17] <jda2000> helloworld_, seems a bit odd.
[02:17] <memand> Corey: Then how would you recommend doing?
[02:17] <julian-delphiki> sudo sh -c "echo 10 > /sys/class/backlights/acpi_video0/brightness"
[02:17] <Corey> memand: printf "foo" | sudo tee /etc/file
[02:17] <Corey> I'm sure there's a factoid somewhere for that.
[02:17] <julian-delphiki> or this, memand:  sudo sh -c "echo 10 > /sys/class/backlights/acpi_video0/brightness"
[02:17] <quinn_> Nothing
[02:17] <julian-delphiki> should work
[02:18] <jtrucks> anyone worked with spideroak headless on multiple systems?
[02:18] <jda2000> helloworld_, You didn't see any error mesages as the USB drive was being set up?
[02:18] <quinn_> Was I supposed to put in the quotes too?
[02:18] <helloworld_> jda2000: in unetbootin?
[02:18] <jda2000> helloworld_, right.
[02:18] <memand> quinn_: Try the command that julian-delphiki wrote above you
[02:18] <helloworld_> jda2000: nope
[02:19] <quinn_> it puts a > before lines
[02:19] <jda2000> helloworld_, I like dr_willis's suggestion that there are other tools out there to make a bootable USB drive.
[02:19] <quinn_> Nothing else comes up..
[02:19] <helloworld_> jda2000: the ones i can find are all .exes
[02:19] <memand> quinn_: what do you mean it put's a > ?
[02:20] <Aufwind> Hi, I just updated my Ubuntu machine including some proprietary nvidia drivers and my Display which had usually a high Resolution (32 inches) is now "downgraded to" 1280x760. And this is the highest resolution I can select in settings. Any ideas what could have been broken? If you need more informaition to help me just let me know please. Don't know where to start. :-)
[02:20] <jda2000> helloworld_, Hmm...
[02:20] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux site has them for linux and windows.. and with newer disrtos you can just 'dd' the iso file straight to the usb
[02:20] <quinn_> If I hit return, it goes one line down and just has a > and then a flashing line
[02:21] <madprops> should i logout for update-alternative changes to take effect?
[02:21] <memand> quinn_: Ok, pres ctrl+c
[02:21] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: hit control-c, and then type sudo bash -c "echo 10 > /sys/class/backlights/acpi_video0/brightness"
[02:21] <helloworld_> dr_willis: i just do "dd isonamehere.iso"  ?
[02:21] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  you have to tell it where to go.
[02:21] <helloworld_> dr_willis: how
[02:21] <quinn_> same result
[02:21] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  and if you tell it the wrong device = erased hd
[02:22] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: and nothing is happening to your backlight?
[02:22] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  sudo dd if=theisofile.iso of=/dev/sdX                  where X = a,b,c,d  or whatever letter your usb is
[02:22] <quinn_> Nothing seems to be changing..
[02:22] <helloworld_> dr_willis: thank you, iwill try that
[02:22] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: try this command then
[02:22] <quinn_> The hardware keys act like I'm changing it, but the brightness isn't changing
[02:22] <dr_willis> quinn_:  it may be easier to be trying these echos from a root shell. that way the sudo redirection is not confuseing thingsd
[02:22] <jda2000> helloworld_, in fact, I see usb-creator-gtk on my Ubuntu system....
[02:23] <julian-delphiki> echo 10 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[02:23] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  get the wrong drive letter = erased hard drive..   so watch out
[02:23] <julian-delphiki> try that quinn_^
[02:23] <cfhowlett> jda2000, not sure it's not standard on ALL buntu's.  It's on my xubuntu as well
[02:23] <helloworld_> dr willis: how do i find out what letter the usb is
[02:23] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: after you ctrl-c to make sure you're out of the >'s
[02:23] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  sudo blkid
[02:23] <helloworld_> dr_willis: thank you
[02:24] <quinn_> oK, i AM ROOT
[02:24] <usr13>  !openvpn helloworld_ sudo fdisk -l
[02:24] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: hmm, that wasn't the intent...
[02:24] <elise0011> Hi I did a pastebin under elise001, Would appreciate help with broken dependencies on my Ubuntu laptop. Now on Windows 8 machine. Prefer Ubuntu, when it is working.
[02:24] <memand> julian-delphiki: Do you know if the backlight can be controled elsewhere?
[02:24] <helloworld_> usr13: what was that
[02:24] <julian-delphiki> memand: only if it has a diff video driver...
[02:24] <quinn_> It prints back 10
[02:24] <quinn_> And nothing else
[02:24] <usr13> helloworld_: It's a command that will show you the device names of your HDs
[02:24] <cfhowlett> elise0011, and the pastebin url is ... ?
[02:25] <elise0011> And how do I change my name to elise001 here on irc please?
[02:25] <helloworld_> usr13: thx
[02:25] <usr13> helloworld_: NP
[02:25] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: pastebin the output of  "ls -lR /sys/class/backlight"
[02:25] <memand> quinn_: then try 'printf 10 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness'
[02:25] <dr_willis> quinn_:
[02:25] <dr_willis> sudo cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[02:25] <dr_willis>
[02:25] <elise0011> cfhowlett: I have to figure that out.
[02:25] <dr_willis> shows the value of that variable also. ;)
[02:26] <dr_willis> elise0011:  /nick pick-a-nick
[02:26] <cfhowlett> elise0011, do the paste and copy/paste the url in the channel
[02:26] <BigBear> #swig
[02:26] <quinn_> pastebin.com/8uUsgC93
[02:27] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: again with a capital R please.
[02:28] <elise0011> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/e5GAwMgX
[02:28] <jc___> I installed a new network card and installed the drivers off the CD. I need to blacklist rt2800, but even though I have rt2800pci rt2800usb tr2800lib  and rt2x00lib usb pci blacklisted they are still loading! how can I make them stop?
[02:28] <quinn_> pastebin.com/06MZ8wfn
[02:28] <cfhowlett> elise0011, grr.  I'm in China and for some reason, the great firewall is blocking that url today ... among others.
[02:29] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: and what video card do you have?
[02:29] <elise0011> cfhowlett: Funny, your name does not sound Chinese. I am near Stanford University. A few miles away.
[02:29] <quinn_> Radeon HD 7290
[02:29] <quinn_> It's on an AMD C-70 APU
[02:30] <cfhowlett> elise0011,  I'm an American in China.  :)
[02:30] <samba35> i have 3 linux system and some time confused with hostname and ip and port  so , is there any way to get login prompt with system name (and /or with  uname -a) detail at ssh login prompt
[02:30] <memand> quinn_: try this 'xbacklight -dec 40'
[02:30] <dr_willis> samba35:  thers 1000's of ways to customise your bash prompt. checkout the 'bash prompt howto' at tldp.org
[02:30] <shortstraw8> Anyone have google-talk installed, I'm running 12.04 an the packages they give for plugins do not work
[02:31] <memand> quinn_: or 'xbacklight -inc 40'
[02:31] <dr_willis> samba35:  as for befor the login. theres the MOTD file you can alter. but ssh may not show that
[02:31] <elise0011> Can anybody besides cfhowlett help me with my broken Ubuntu system on my other laptop, please?
[02:31] <Seven_Six_Two> I am having trouble with one of my 250gb sata drives. There are "splicing" errors when I try to copy files from the drive to another drive (ext4 to ext4). I only have ext4, except for my external drives.
[02:32] <elise0011> I have broken dependencies. About to flood. Sorry.
[02:32] <quinn_> Neither of those did anything
[02:32] <julian-delphiki> elise0011: paste bin
[02:32] <samba35> ok thanks
[02:32] <elise0011> http://pastebin.com/e5GAwMgX    Maybe not flood.
[02:32] <Seven_Six_Two> The partition locks up when I try to read a file, but reappears after a reboot.
[02:33] <memand> quinn_: and it did not complay that xbacklight was not installed?
[02:33] <quinn_> I installed it
[02:33] <quinn_> It told me it wasn't installed, so I installed it
[02:33] <dr_willis> Seven_Six_Two:  sounds like a HD is failing. or vry bad fs curruption
[02:33] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: i have an idea. reboot with acpi_backlight=vendor as a kernel parameter
[02:33] <quinn_> How do I do that?
[02:33] <elise0011> sudo apt-get install -f        is not working.
[02:34] <elise0011> charlie/Guest66435: How did you change your name on irc please?
[02:35] <dr_willis> elise0011:   /nick Pick-a-nick
[02:35] <julian-delphiki> elise0011, pretty sure that's already been explained to you.
[02:35] <julian-delphiki> elise0011: /nick elisesnewnick
[02:35] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, that's what I was thinking, but it's not getting worse, and not making noise. SMART says clean
[02:35] <quinn_> How do I do that?
[02:35] <dr_willis> Seven_Six_Two:  ive seen hds fail/die/come back to life... ;) work for a week.. then die again
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, it's also not refusing to mount or forcing a scan when I boot.
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> yeah, I just bought a 2TB drive tonight, but I'
[02:36] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: it requires getting into grub prompt :S
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm trying to save what I can first.
[02:36] <dr_willis> Seven_Six_Two:  may be time ti learn how to use ddrescue ;)
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, not heard. distro?
[02:36] <quinn_> I'm doing this from a different computer
[02:36] <elise0001> So how do I fix my broken dependencies please?
[02:36] <dr_willis> Seven_Six_Two:  just a tool for imageing/recoverying a hd/partion to a file/hd.
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, or is it a package?
[02:37] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: can you re link your paste bin and I will take a look
[02:37] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, oh, I'll check that out, thanks
[02:37] <dr_willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
[02:37] <dr_willis>  ddrescue /dev/hdc hdimage logfile
[02:38] <elise0001> julian-delphiki:   sudo apt-get install -f       will repaste
[02:38] <elise0001> http://pastebin.com/e5GAwMgX
[02:39] <elise0001> Thjanjks
[02:39] <elise0001> Thanks
[02:39] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: what caused this to start?
[02:40] <dr_willis> this may be caused by held packages  --> tried a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'  ?
[02:40] <jda2000> I want to drag a bash script onto the launcher and have it stick there.  What keys should I hold down?
[02:40] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: and this is on a laptop?
[02:40] <jda2000> On 12.04
[02:40] <julian-delphiki> elise0001, yeah, try a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:40] <dr_willis> jda2000:  i dont think unity works that way. You may be able to make a .desktop file that launches the script and drag it...
[02:41] <elise0001> I think it happened over a week ago when the laptop had problems part way thru an upgrade. Monitor tiles strangely. Maybe have bad video drivers. Flakely computer. Power cord connection flakey.
[02:41] <jda2000> dr_willis, Ok THanks I'll google that.
[02:41] <elise0001> Got computer from silent auction.
[02:42] <julian-delphiki> elise0001, yeah, try a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:42] <jc___> I can't blacklist rt2800
[02:42] <elise0001> When monitor tiles, I have to unplug computer from power cord and take battery out and restart.
[02:43] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: okay, just please run the command
[02:43] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: don't really need /all/ of the backstory
[02:43] <econdudeawesome> howdy all
[02:43] <elise0001> ok
[02:44] <econdudeawesome> I am having a hard time figuring out how to get at old CRX database files in Ubuntu
[02:44] <econdudeawesome> specifically the metadata
[02:44] <elise0001> Will go try that now.
[02:44] <julian-delphiki> econdudeawesome: so.. chrome extensions
[02:45] <econdudeawesome> julian-delphiki: are you kidding? Sweet. Do you know of a specific one?  Old Visual Fox Pro database files
[02:46] <econdudeawesome> julian-delphiki: they may well share the extensions though
[02:46] <julian-delphiki> fission6: Do you have your port forwarded in your router?
[02:46] <Corey> econdudeawesome: I'd start digging through the apt repos to see if you can find something that'll get you the data you need.  Then script around it, iterate through.
[02:46] <fission6> i don't believe so
[02:47] <econdudeawesome> Corey: I would but I can't figure out the encoding at all
[02:47] <julian-delphiki> fission6: you have to forward it, if you're behind a router, or you won't be able to publically ssh to it.
[02:47] <fission6> i know
[02:47] <fission6> thats why i don't understand why port 22 is opened
[02:47] <fission6> when i scan my ip
[02:47] <Corey> econdudeawesome: Grab one of them, what does "file" say about it?
[02:47] <julian-delphiki> fission6: yep, it's open
[02:47] <fission6> yea
[02:48] <fission6> but why / how
[02:48] <julian-delphiki> fission6: and you're sure its not the SSH server?
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> Corey: Gotta be cross-listed. Maple Help Database. But the files were created by Visual Fox Pro in the late 90s
[02:48] <somsip> fission6: do you ahve a router/cable-modem?
[02:48] <Corey> econdudeawesome: Is this sensitive data, or can you share a file?
[02:49] <fission6> yes its paired together somsip
[02:49] <fission6> its one device
[02:49] <somsip> fission6: and you are scanning from an external source using you ISP allocated IP?
[02:49] <fission6> yep
[02:49] <econdudeawesome> Corey: I can share the file. Here is a link from the FERC site: http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/forms/form-1/data.asp
[02:50] <somsip> fission6: so does your router have access to admin functions through SSH?
[02:50] <Corey> econdudeawesome: 82 MB compressed>
[02:50] <Corey> This might take some time. :-)
[02:50] <fission6> well i mean its one device
[02:51] <julian-delphiki> fission6: it's probably a port open for them to run diagnostics
[02:51] <econdudeawesome> Corey: yeah, sorry. The actual crx files are only like 8 kb or so...
[02:51] <julian-delphiki> fission6: however, it is a really old version of ssh...
[02:51] <econdudeawesome> they're metadata for the .dbf files (which open fine with a spreadsheet program)
[02:51] <Corey> econdudeawesome: Downloded.  Okay, let's see here.
[02:51] <fission6> julian-delphiki: i agree but still scary no?
[02:52] <julian-delphiki> fission6: you could always ask them why it's open
[02:52] <fission6> i just may
[02:52] <somsip> fission6: and you are scanning externaly, like from ShieldsUp or somewhere? Not scanning from your PC?
[02:52] <elise0001> Did not work.
[02:52] <elise0001> Will pastebin results
[02:52] <fission6> somsip yep, why do you ask
[02:52] <julian-delphiki> somsip: i just sucessfully connect to it, so yes, fission6 is talking externally
[02:53] <fission6> julian-delphiki: how did you connect just ssh?
[02:53] <somsip> fission6: because routesr can allow some ports from LAN but denies from WAN. So they appear open on an nmap scan by me, but not from elsewhere
[02:53] <julian-delphiki> fission6: yes
[02:53] <julian-delphiki> somsip: that's not the case here
[02:54] <fission6> i think its opened for the ISp
[02:54] <fission6> which is nuts
[02:54] <Corey> Hmm, none of my usual tools crack it open, econdudeawesome.
[02:54] <econdudeawesome> Corey: okay
[02:54] <vjacob> hiya. any ideas on how to proceed with an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, if "do-release-upgrade -d" only gives "No new release found" ?
[02:55] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: does it do anything without the -d?
[02:55] <vjacob> the /etc/lsb-release on the system contains "normal"
[02:56] <vjacob> sorry /etc/release-upgrades. meanwhile, /etc/lsb-release correctly reflects the installed system
[02:56] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, no
[02:56] <elise0001> julian-delphiki and others:   http://pastebin.com/QH4WVG8E
[02:57] <julian-delphiki> elise0001.... sudo apt-get dist-upgrade no spaces
[02:57] <julian-delphiki> between dist and upgrade
[02:58] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, if it makes any difference I think I started such an upgrade (and it worked) but interrupted it after 10 seconds
[02:58] <vjacob> in the past (had to make a backup first)
[02:58] <julian-delphiki> hmm....
[02:58] <vjacob> oh well
[02:59] <vjacob> I guess 11.10 will serve me fine, security updates seem to install and all
[02:59] <julian-delphiki> well, you could uninstall the package for upgrades and reinstall it
[02:59] <vjacob> oh
[02:59] <vjacob> good idea
[02:59] <vjacob> update-manager-core?
[02:59] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: apt-get remove --purge update-manager-core
[02:59] <julian-delphiki> yep
[03:00] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: why not just reinstall the OS on this?
[03:01] <blackangel> had anyone being lucky enought to get the ati 13 drivers works on ubuntu 12.10 yet?
[03:03] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, I didn't realise that purging ubuntu-desktop would make network-manager disfunctional
[03:03] <texla> I installed Ubuntu-12.04.1 to a 16 gb usb flash drive...When booting I  get the following message;;Out of range cannot display video mode change computer display input to 1600x1200 60mhz..How to fix
[03:04] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, hope that I can get the network back using wicd-curses, so I can reinstall ubuntu-desktop, update-manager-core, etc.
[03:04] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: oh, ouch, sorry about that
[03:04] <vjacob> not your fault
[03:05] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|texla,
[03:06] <texla> cfhowlett, The message time out and then the o/s is fine...Monitor set at 1600x1200 4.3 and the o/s display the same
[03:09] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, if I can't find a way to get the network working again, which packages would you guess I should find a way to transfer manually or using a USB connected CDR?
[03:10] <vjacob> hopefully USB will work
[03:11] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: you should be able to mess with /etc/network/interfaces to make network work
[03:11] <asidjazz> anyone here konw vpnc well
[03:11] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: is this on wifi or wired?
[03:12] <asidjazz> im trying to setup vpnc on a remote box and i lose internet on it when it successfully connects.. ssh dies.. anyone know what i can do?
[03:12] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, ethernet
[03:12] <php42> hello, how do i restore incremental backups that i've backed up to s3 using backup-manager ?
[03:12] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: then it should work easily.
[03:12] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: actually, if you do "sudo dhclient eth0" it may pick up an address that way
[03:13] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, actually it's already in there
[03:13] <julian-delphiki> and then you can reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:13] <cfhowlett> php42, I THINK it's sudo apt-get upgrade --reinstall
[03:14] <Hieber> Hey guys, I just installed 12.10, went through all of the updates and whatnot, but I have an issue: I can't change the status (under the envelope icon) to something other than offline.
[03:14] <Drex_> Hello, Software Center is not launching, sometimes throws an error, any advice on how to fix ?
[03:15] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, that last commands just hangs (blank line, blinking cursor). also "service networking stop" does the same
[03:15] <vjacob> any other ideas?
[03:15] <vjacob> I'm a bit hesitant to reboot presently, as you might imagine :)
[03:15] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: well... does "ifconfig" say that it has an IP?
[03:16] <vjacob> it doesn't (tried that). also "wicd-curses" never seems to finish 'obtaining IP address' (used to work, AFAIK)
[03:17] <vjacob> getting stranger...
[03:17] <julian-delphiki> vjacob, hmm, ifconfig eth0 down
[03:17] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: and then ifconfig eth0 up
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[03:18] <_LoL_> ❤♥
[03:18] <FloodBot1> _LoL_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:19] <shortstraw8> So I downloaded the plugin for hangout(google) the package in downloads reads...... google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb. If I exract it pulls DEBIAN  ect  opt  usr, and nothing works does this have to be in the file system and if so how do I get it there correctly? running 12.04 ubuntu
[03:19] <cfhowlett> shortstraw8, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb us the usual method
[03:20] <acu> I have a ubuntu 10.04 with a user name but I do not know the password - however I know the password for root - but I do not know what do I need to press when the system boots to see the CLI - and login as root  - can anyone tell me how ?
[03:20] <iml> acu: type su to login as root
[03:21] <acu> iml: but I have only the gnome login and there is only one user as option - how can I get to command line interface
[03:22] <shortstraw8> cfhowlett, no gives me   dpkg: error processing foo.deb
[03:22] <julian-delphiki> acu: ubuntu doesn't have a root login by default, unless you enabled it...
[03:22] <elise0001> Stiil not working. Please see   http://pastebin.com/kC2DTYPb
[03:22] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, didn't work I am afraid (sorry for being difficult here)
[03:22] <cfhowlett> acu if you can log in as root, just reset the user password
[03:22] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: hrmm..
[03:23] <cfhowlett> shortstraw8, sorry, that was my best shot.  ask again in channel.
[03:23] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: i'd reboot :S
[03:23] <acu> is there a way to boot in cli not gdm ? Grub is not installed it seem
[03:23] <raven_> well i have no sound, when i watched tutorials on youtube they said i should install some package because i have an 8core amd, but i cant find it in the software center, i also havent installed my graphics because theres a few options and i dont know which is best
[03:23] <shortstraw8> So I downloaded the plugin for hangout(google) the package in downloads reads...... google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb. If I exract it pulls DEBIAN  ect  opt  usr, and nothing works does this have to be in the file system and if so how do I get it there correctly? running 12.04 ubuntu
[03:23] <bazhang> !nox | acu
[03:23] <cfhowlett> acu, boot into recovery mode will bring you to CLI
[03:23] <zero_coder> hello , i had been using windows alongside ubuntu , but now i have moved windows free , i have got freed paritions , how can i merge it with ubuntu's main partition??
[03:23] <cfhowlett> acu, grub IS installed
[03:23] <raven_> can anyone help me?
[03:24] <julian-delphiki> shortstraw8: you have to install that, not extract it.
[03:24] <bazhang> !gparted | zero_coder
[03:24] <iml> acu: try ctrl-alt-f2 to switch to a console, not sure what login prompt you will get though
[03:24] <cfhowlett> zero_coder, boot an ubuntu USB/CD and use gparted
[03:24] <raven_> can anyone help me to get my sound to work
[03:24] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, working again!
[03:24] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, I don't understand what happened exactly :)
[03:25] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: meh :P
[03:25] <zero_coder> can i use it directly from ubuntu to get the job done??
[03:25] <shortstraw8> julian-delphiki,  what command from the terminal? do you know?
[03:25] <bazhang> shortstraw8, simply double clicking it should open the software center
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !patience|raven_,
[03:25] <bazhang> !audio | raven_ read this first
[03:25] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, thanks a bunch
[03:25] <vjacob> I appreciate it.
[03:25] <shortstraw8> bazhang, says that it is not supported when I do that.
[03:25] <bazhang> shortstraw8, dpkg -i file.deb
[03:26] <bazhang> shortstraw8, then you need the 32bit one
[03:26] <cfhowlett> raven_, NO sound?  or just no sound when in youtube?
[03:26] <vjacob> do-upgrade-release is working.
[03:26] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: sweet.
[03:26] <vjacob> very.
[03:26] <vjacob> good stuff, ubuntu.
[03:26] <vjacob> good stuff!
[03:27] <asidjazz> anyone know the equivalent vpnc configuraiton for hte checkbox "use the connections only for hte resources on its network" ?
[03:27] <shortstraw8> bazhang, Even if I'm on a 64bit?
[03:27] <sammuchann> Can youdisable the amazon search on 12.10?
[03:27] <somsip> !shopping | sammuchann
[03:27] <bazhang> shortstraw8, did you try the command I gave you
[03:27] <bazhang> !adlens | sammuchann
[03:27] <sammuchann> Thanks :D
[03:27] <marta> hi all
[03:28] <cfhowlett> marta, greetings
[03:28] <marta> i have a problem with apt-mirror
[03:28] <shortstraw8> bazhang, Yes I got a     dpkg: error processing file.deb (--install):
[03:28] <marta> cannot open gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/precise/main/binary-: No such file
[03:28] <marta> you can see the double "//"
[03:28] <bazhang> shortstraw8, did you actually write file.deb ? or the actual file name
[03:28] <marta> how can i clean it?
[03:28] <cfhowlett> marta, ez fix is to switch to a different mirror to test
[03:29] <marta> is the mirror the problem?
[03:29] <marta> i try another in a minute
[03:30] <elise0001> Downloading Ubuntu 12.04.01 on my broken Ubuntu laptop. Hope monitor does not tile during download.
[03:30] <acu> how can I boot in recovery mode as I do not see the grub dialog ?
[03:30] <marta> same error:   cannot open archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/precise/main/binary-: No such file
[03:30] <cfhowlett> marta, IDK if the mirror is up/down/broken but  a quick test of an alternate should clarify matters somewhat
[03:30] <bazhang> acu, is this a dualboot? a wubi install? or standalone ubuntu
[03:30] <vjacob> all right. later guys.
[03:31] <cfhowlett> marta, then something else is happening.  Sadly, over my head to fix.  Please stay in channel and ask again.
[03:31] <matthewvz> acu: Have you tried hitting shift while booting?
[03:31] <acu> bazhang, is a standalone, but I cannot see the grub
[03:31] <marta> thanks
[03:31] <bazhang> acu, hold shift at boot then
[03:31] <shortstraw8> bazhang,  yes the first time my bad.   Says no such file or directory
[03:31] <usr13> acu: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[03:31] <marta> someone know how to fix apt-mirror?
[03:31] <iml> it's the url, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:31] <cfhowlett> raven_, what is your hardward?
[03:32] <raven_> okay.. which graphics drivers are best for a 7950
[03:32] <bazhang> shortstraw8, are you in the correct directory? tab complete to finish the package name
[03:32] <nuxninja> hello
[03:32] <cfhowlett> nuxninja, greetings
[03:32] <raven_> its fxed.. it was defaulted to the wrong thing >_<
[03:32] <nuxninja> cfhowlett: use alsa mixer to check settings.......alternatively check the indicator applet to see if sound is not muted for applications
[03:32] <raven_> now i just dont know which graphics drivers to install
[03:33] <marta> apt-mirro cannot open gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/precise/main/binary-: No such file anyone can help me?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> nuxninja, ??? I think you mean Raven ... my sound works.
[03:33] <raven_> and do i need to install drivers for my cpu ? i dont know if it needs extra stuff because its an 8 core?
[03:33] <acu> it does not work, I wish I could not the ip address - I know this is a vlan from kvm libvirt
[03:33] <shortstraw8> bazhang, I needed to cd to downloads didnt I
[03:33] <asidjazz> anyone here have any experience with vpnc?
[03:34] <bazhang> shortstraw8, where did you download it to
[03:34] <raven_> ubuntu isnt very.. female friendly >_>
[03:34] <bazhang> asidjazz, ask the actual question
[03:34] <iml> marta: the url is obviously incorrect, but isn't this an apt-get problem? why apt-mirror?
[03:34] <usr13> raven_: WHy do you way that?
[03:34] <bazhang> raven_, thats nonsense
[03:34] <shortstraw8> bazhang, downloads
[03:34] <cfhowlett> raven_, ubuntu has no gender preferences
[03:34] <raven_> lol.. sorry im just having trouble
[03:34] <marta> i need a local mirro for my local net
[03:34] <thomedy> please please pleaes... i have been doing some work on a project for a client i went to make a bakc up just now before sending off my progress and i accidentally hit tar -xvzf instead of tar -cvzf is there anywhere i can recover the old version
[03:34] <thomedy> please
[03:34] <usr13> raven_: Is the drink holder not working?
[03:34] <bazhang> raven_, wrong channel for that
[03:34]  * thomedy crosses his fingers
[03:34] <bazhang> usr13, thats enough
[03:35] <marta> i'd like to use this because i read is more useful but this bug make me really angry
[03:35] <asidjazz> bazhang: i got this remote box to connect to a vpn just fine.. but it drops my ssh connection and isnt connectable until i reboot it
[03:35] <raven_> cananyone help me install ati graphics drivers?
[03:35] <dr_willis> thomedy:  you extacted the old version on top of your new?
[03:35] <usr13> bazhang: Where is your sense of humor?
[03:35] <marta> apt-get works fine
[03:35] <thomedy> i didn't mean to but yes
[03:35] <asidjazz> bazhang: i basically need the command line option of that checkbox to "use the connections only for the resources on its network" equivalent
[03:35] <thomedy> i was trying to cvzf instead of x i just did it too fast
[03:35] <dr_willis> thomedy:  i know of no way to revover them
[03:35] <bazhang> usr13, this is NOT the jokes channel. /msg ubottu behelpful
[03:36] <iml> marta: I think you need to configure /etc/apt/mirror.list so it uses the working sources from sources.list
[03:36] <thomedy> anyone else
[03:36] <raven_> :(
[03:36] <bazhang> shortstraw8, try to tab complete the package name
[03:36] <raven_> this needs like a new user guide
[03:37] <bazhang> !manual | raven_ have a read
[03:37] <cfhowlett> raven_,  there is a downloadable ubuntu manual
[03:37] <bazhang> !rute | raven_ and these
[03:37]  * cfhowlett *bazhang has the flying fingers over his keyboard!*
[03:38] <shortstraw8> bazhang, No your right    says package architecture (amd64) does not match system
[03:38] <bazhang> shortstraw8, do you get what I mean by tab complete?
[03:38] <marta> @iml http://pastebin.com/aS6ca7LG
[03:39] <shortstraw8> bazhang,  Thought that I had the 64bit OS
[03:39] <bazhang> shortstraw8, well once you have the correct package, you now know how to install it
[03:41] <marta> http://pastebin.com/equTedms
[03:42] <raven_> i just need help for graphics drivers..
[03:42] <julian-delphiki> marta: take the / off the end of the ubuntu
[03:42] <julian-delphiki> ...
[03:42] <usr13> raven_: What is your gpu?
[03:42] <raven_> amd 7950
[03:43] <shortstraw8> bazhang, thanks!
[03:43] <dr_willis> often askubuntu.com and the forums will have help for specific problematic video cards.   I dont use ati.
[03:43] <usr13> raven_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2042575
[03:43] <iml> marta: what julian-delphiki said
[03:45] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/174461/amd-binary-driver-fails-to-initialize-graphics-card-any-ideas
[03:46] <raven_> um
[03:46] <Dionist> Is this the Ubuntu help channel?
[03:46] <jacob1618> hi
[03:46] <raven_> that link doesnt really explaiin how to do it..
[03:47] <bazhang> Dionist, yes
[03:47] <julian-delphiki> _raven:  By updating the BIOS / firmware on my Asus P8Z77-V Motherboard, the integrated graphics no longer appeared in the lspci output and is now completely disabled.
[03:47] <Dionist> Alright. Anyone here know how to work with conky? I've been trying to get mine to work, but none of the solutions I've googled seems to help.
[03:48] <bazhang> Dionist, have you read the conky beginners guide?
[03:48] <apsassin> hello, I am running Ubuntu 12.10 through an hdmi to my tv andd have no sound. In sound settings there is no option Hdmi option only digital or analogue. neither gives me any sound
[03:49] <apsassin> any ideas?
[03:49] <marta> julian-delphiki, i had to take off from source.list the "7" ?
[03:49] <marta> julian-delphiki, i had to take off from source.list the "/" ?
[03:49] <Dionist> bazhang Link me just so I can make sure if I've read it or not.
[03:49] <julian-delphiki> marta: yes, remove the "/" after ubuntu
[03:49] <bazhang> Dionist, just a moment
[03:49] <marta> moment i try immediatly
[03:50] <usr13> apsassin: http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/04/14/audio-over-hdmi-and-displayport-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[03:50] <Dionist> bazhang It's a custom config I downloaded, but when run in terminal, it says that three of the configuration files are invalid. I'm concerned if the files are corrupt or something.
[03:50] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky   Dionist
[03:50] <apsassin> thanks usr 13 i will go through that.
[03:51] <apsassin> it should work the same for 12.10?
[03:51] <raven_> i cant find any install guides for my 7950
[03:51] <usr13> apsassin: I dono
[03:52] <marta> doesn't work, now my source.list look like: http://pastebin.com/index/aS6ca7LG
[03:52] <julian-delphiki> marta: what does it do now/
[03:52] <marta> same error
[03:52] <julian-delphiki> doubtful
[03:53] <raven_> -_-
[03:53] <Rabblerouser> I tried running Linux through an external USB hard drive, but get this http://i.imgur.com/sbXBr9c.jpg
[03:53] <Rabblerouser> It sort of hangs there
[03:53] <marta> i taked off from mirror.list too because it show me triple "///"
[03:53] <julian-delphiki> marta... i don't think that apt-mirror uses /etc/sources.list
[03:54] <julian-delphiki> mirror.list, i think
[03:54] <usr13> apsassin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/219990/no-sound-over-hdmi-12-10-amd-a4-5300-apu-msi-fm-a55m-e33 ?
[03:54] <marta> /etc/apt/mirro.list is the configuration file of apt-mirror
[03:54] <php42> if you have an AMD gfx card, good luck :)
[03:55] <marta> and now look like: http://pastebin.com/Qjam0NNW
[03:55] <julian-delphiki> marta: isn't that what you already linked me?
[03:55] <marta> no was source.list
[03:55] <julian-delphiki> [21:52] <marta> doesn't work, now my source.list look like: http://pastebin.com/index/aS6ca7LG
[03:55] <julian-delphiki> well
[03:56] <marta> i posted both
[03:56] <julian-delphiki> well your sources.list is very wrong
[03:56] <julian-delphiki> it looks the same as your mirror.list
[03:56] <marta> whats wrong on my source.list?
[03:57] <Dionist> bazhang I think I had to rename the filename. It won't let me restart the conky itself so let me quickly log out and in. I'll get back to report.
[03:57] <julian-delphiki> marta: the entire ### CONFIG ### block... that isn't supposed to be there
[03:57] <julian-delphiki> marta: nor the clean lines.
[03:57] <Rabblerouser> Can anyone help me just get Ubuntu to run?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> Rabblerouser, maybe.  details?
[03:59] <Rabblerouser> I posted above. http://i.imgur.com/sbXBr9c.jpg It stops here. I'm trying to boot off an external.
[04:00] <julian-delphiki> marta: your /etc/sources list should be all of 3 lines. http://pastebin.com/ai8eJwjd or similar
[04:00] <Rabblerouser> Not sure if Ubuntu sharing space with PC backups on my external would cause that
[04:00] <Dionist_> bazhang I'm back. And no, it wasn't the file name.
[04:00] <Seven_Six_Two> I just purchased a new 2TB sata drive, and it's not showing up...
[04:01] <Seven_Six_Two> took all other drives out, and booted from usb
[04:01] <php42> hello, how do i restore incremental backups that i've backed up to s3 using backup-manager ?
[04:01] <marta> i follow that guide:  http://unixrob.blogspot.it/2012/05/create-apt-mirror-with-ubuntu-1204-lts.html
[04:01] <Dionist_> bazhang Nothing in the guide you gave me explains the invalid configuration errors. Although now I have a new error.
[04:02] <julian-delphiki> marta: well, you didn't, because that says nothing about modifying /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <Dionist_>  Conky: invalid configuration file '/home/dion/.conkyrc'  Conky: missing text block in configuration; exiting ***** Imlib2 Developer Warning ***** : 	This program is calling the Imlib call:  	imlib_context_free();  	With the parameter:  	context  	being NULL. Please fix your program.
[04:02] <bazhang> Dionist_, well it was a custom config. so make your own that is not problematic
[04:03] <Dionist_> How about anyone else who can actually *help* rather than just "Here's a guide! ....oh. Then download something different or make your own."
[04:04] <julian-delphiki> Dionist_: no one here will probably be able to troubleshoot a custom conky config
[04:04] <b_> i just tried to `mv` a dir and it failed with the error msg, 'Directory not empty' what is this about?
[04:04] <OerHeks> Dionist_, how could we help, if we have not seen your conky script ? use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[04:05] <Dionist_> julian-delphiki Even if I link to said config package?
[04:05] <marta> here is described my same error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-mirror/+bug/977278
[04:05] <marta> and here a fix for a bug but i'm not a programmer so i don't want to manage code directly: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=682395
[04:05] <bazhang> Dionist_, the guide is how to understand making conky work, contact the custom config maker if you have issues. the guide itself is not a panacea for any and all custom configs out there
[04:06] <Rabblerouser> :/ Hm.. thanks anyways.
[04:06] <julian-delphiki> marta: are you using ARM?
[04:06] <marta> nono
[04:06] <marta> i386
[04:06] <marta> is only the same error found on google
[04:06] <julian-delphiki> then its unlikely that something being wrong with a regex that detects ARM will matter
[04:06] <marta> i cannot find out something other
[04:07] <SnapSnap> Hi, I downloaded an icon theme but don't know how to apply it.
[04:07] <julian-delphiki> marta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=991425 i could
[04:07] <Dionist_> Hrm. Very well. Still feels like nobody really tried. Maker's good as gone, so guess I'm stuck with looking for something else.
[04:07] <bazhang> Dionist_, did you give us a link to said custom config? or even pastebin it as requested?
[04:08] <Dionist_> http://laserbeam3.deviantart.com/art/Conky-empowered-desktop-168092656
[04:08] <Dionist_> bazhang Why?  Yes, I did. I followed everything to the letter, and it doesn't explain the error.
[04:11] <marta> sigh... doesn't work...
[04:13] <julian-delphiki> marta: i can look at it if you give me an ssh login
[04:14] <marta> i try
[04:16] <raven_> how do i install a .run file?
[04:16] <julian-delphiki> Dionist_: even the creater says that he doesn't know how to make it work
[04:17] <jman> hello
[04:17] <jman> anybody around? i need some help un-grubbing
[04:18] <julian-delphiki> jman: people are around, ask your questions
[04:18] <jman> so yeah i had ubuntu booting successfully after doing a wubi and for some reason today i got a grub prompt
[04:19] <jman> grub 1.99
[04:19] <jman> i tried doing
[04:19] <jman> insmod part_msdos
[04:19] <jman> insmod ext2
[04:19] <jman> set root=(hd0, msdos1)
[04:19] <jman> linux vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1
[04:19] <jman> that command
[04:19] <IdleOne> marta: I strongly recommend not giving ssh access to your computer to strangers. it is a big sedurity risk
[04:19] <jman> gave me
[04:20] <IdleOne> !enter | jman
[04:20] <jman> invalid file name: 'vmlinux'
[04:20] <julian-delphiki> IdleOne: fortunately i'm just trying to help, i'm a sysadmin by trade.
[04:20] <cfhowlett> jman, why wubi?  wubi is for TESTING ubuntu according to the developers.  It is not intended as a long term storage option.  Better to virtualbox or, ideally, dual boot ...
[04:21] <IdleOne> julian-delphiki: I am sorry if you took my recommendation as an insult and I am sure you have good intentions, but still my recommendation stands.
[04:21] <jman> sorry what was your recommendation? and how would i set up a dual boot? i'm a total n00b to this stuff
[04:22] <kewel> I have an old machine, should I use lubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[04:22] <julian-delphiki> IdleOne: no big deal,
[04:22] <Abhijit> kewel, how old?
[04:22] <kewel> PIII 1GHz 512MB
[04:22] <kewel> ubuntu 10.04 runs kinda choppy
[04:23] <IdleOne> julian-delphiki: thanks for understanding. in this channel we ask for screenshots, pastebins, but we don't ever recommend giving access to ones system.
[04:23] <dr_willis> lubuntu for thgat low end a system
[04:23] <cfhowlett> kewel, 10.04 is EOL very soon.
[04:23] <kewel> ya, I know
[04:23] <cfhowlett> kewel, lubuntu or xubuntu suggested
[04:23] <julian-delphiki> IdleOne: yeah, i've hung around here long enough to know that. I just figure i can probably fix this one quickly.
[04:24] <kewel> ya .. I used my last blank cdr for lubuntu 12.10 x86 inst .. but it locks up .. gonna try the alt inst when I get a disc
[04:24] <dr_willis> there is no alt for 12.10
[04:24] <kewel> I found a couple hits on google that say 12.10 uses more ram than 12.04
[04:24] <Abhijit> kewel, http://antix.mepis.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
[04:24] <Abhijit> kewel, look into this http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=Old+Computers
[04:24] <dr_willis> 12.10 wants PAE enabled hardware also
[04:25] <dr_willis> a PIII may not have that
[04:25] <cfhowlett> kewel, not USB?
[04:25] <jman> wait so...ungrubbing how
[04:25] <cfhowlett> kewel, you can direct upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[04:25] <kewel> ya there is -- http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
[04:25] <Nautilus> I know that filesize and 'size on disk' don't always match, but a 7.4M file that takes 59.3M? What's up with that?
[04:25] <kewel> fifth link down
[04:26] <kewel> dr_willis: the pae thing, does 12.04 work?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> Nautilus, that ain't right ...
[04:28] <OerHeks> kewel that url is lxde - Lubuntu, not ubuntu with gnome
[04:28] <noobatlife> I am using wine to get office 2010 installed ony my 64 bit machine
[04:28] <raven_> when i try to install the ati driver it makes a log file that says this Package build failed!
[04:28] <raven_> Package build utility output:
[04:28] <raven_> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 294: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: debclean: not found
[04:28] <raven_> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 295: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: dpkg-buildpackage: not found
[04:28] <raven_> [Error] Generate Package - error generating package : Ubuntu/quantal
[04:28] <FloodBot1> raven_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <noobatlife> but it says installation failed
[04:28] <SnapSnap> Hi, I downloaded an icon theme but don't know how to apply it.
[04:28] <raven_> sorry
[04:28] <noobatlife> I need office 2010 because my class requires heavy use of Microsoft Access
[04:29] <noobatlife> or Office 2007
[04:29] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: any ideas whats up?
[04:29] <dr_willis> !appdb | noobatlife
[04:29] <raven_> how do i get the packages debclean and dpkg-buildpackage
[04:29] <cfhowlett> Nautilus, no, but I have to ask, is this an ubuntu file?  or downloaded from ... elsewhere?
[04:29] <dr_willis> !find debclean
[04:30] <kewel> dr_willis: ya .. alt install not alt .. thanks for pointing that out.
[04:30] <dr_willis> !find dpkg-buildpackage
[04:31] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: It's an SQL file I just DL'd. When I saw that I deleted it and re-exported ... same result.  "ls" reports the 7.4, the UI says the Filesize is 7.4M and "Size On Disk" is 59.3M.
[04:32] <tekkbuzz> Does anyone know the apt command to find the "Not-Installed" pkg. containing some file?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> Nautilus, any way to hash check that file?  md5sum, something?
[04:32] <Nautilus> not that I know of
[04:32] <cfhowlett> tekkbuzz, apt-cache policy packagename
[04:33] <raven__> sorry i had a graphical glitch,.. all my windows turned into my background? i dont know what im doing.. how do i find packages?
[04:33] <tekkbuzz> cfhowlett: okay thanks, I'll try it.
[04:33] <dr_willis> raven__:  ubottu   | File debclean found in devscripts
[04:33] <cfhowlett> tekkbuzz, good luck
[04:33] <dr_willis> raven__:  ubottu   | File dpkg-buildpackage found in dpkg-dev, gitpkg, zsh, zsh-beta
[04:34] <raven__> i dont know what that means..
[04:34] <dr_willis> you asked where to find the 'debclean' thing.. its in the package 'devscripts' according to the bot.. who uses the apt commands t search the syste,m
[04:34] <GeminiDomino> Is it safe to mount /var with the "noexec" flag on 10.04 Server and/or 12.04 server?
[04:34] <tekkbuzz> cfhowlett: wait, I'm trying to find the packagename.
[04:35] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: the sql file seems intact and complete (looking at it in gedit)
[04:35] <raven__> -_- this is too complicated
[04:35] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: maybe just a bug in the UI?
[04:35] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: BTW I'm on 12.04 with LXDE
[04:36] <noobatlife> Sigh i give up.  I am sick and tired of everything
[04:36] <dr_willis> bianca:   the apt system has numerous search features to find things.
[04:37] <tekkbuzz> cfhowlett: I need the packagename, I know the filename, but the package is Not installed.
[04:37] <dr_willis> tekkbuzz:  apt-file can help with that.
[04:37] <dr_willis> !info apt-file
[04:38] <bianca> cso i put sudo apt-get devscripts?
[04:38] <tekkbuzz> dr_willis: thanks
[04:39] <dr_willis> bianca:  'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[04:39] <Nautilus> is there a command line command to see the "size on disk" of a file?
[04:39] <dr_willis> !apt | bianca
[04:39] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  df and du,
[04:39] <CrazyZurfer> Holy jesusss, by mistake I did a sudo chmod 644 / and everything is breaking and burniing!! :(
[04:39] <dr_willis> CrazyZurfer:  i predict a reinstall is in your future
[04:39] <CrazyZurfer> I mean 644 -R
[04:39] <CrazyZurfer> Dr_willis: no waaay
[04:40] <CrazyZurfer> There must be other way
[04:40] <julian-delphiki> no
[04:40] <julian-delphiki> a reinstall is probably the only fix there
[04:40] <dr_willis> use live cd. chroot, use package system to reinstall EVERY package.. and hope it works...
[04:40] <CrazyZurfer> Once i read that something could be done with the live cd
[04:41] <dr_willis> depending on how  quickly you stopped the chmod command...
[04:41] <CrazyZurfer> Kind of quickly
[04:41] <Nautilus> dr_willis: df seems to be the filesystems, du says "7248    ."     does that mean approx 7.4M ?
[04:41] <dr_willis> with a SSD ;) that may not be very quick.
[04:41] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  du -h  for human readable.. see man du
[04:42] <CrazyZurfer> I've got an 5400 rpm :)
[04:42] <bianca> every time i  install what it wants, it says im missing something else
[04:42] <dr_willis> i would imagine reinstalling every package on the system (not sure how you would do that) would take quiet some time.
[04:42] <Nautilus> dr_willis: thanks, ok that says 7.1M   But 12.04/LXDE says 7.4M filesize, 59.3M for size on disk. UI bug?
[04:42] <dr_willis> bianca:  we dont know what you are doing..  give details.
[04:43] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  no idea. I would guess so.
[04:43] <bianca> Supported adapter detected.
[04:43] <bianca> Check if system has the tools required for installation.
[04:43] <bianca> fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-22-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[04:43] <bianca> One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system. Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver.
[04:43] <bianca> Optionally, run the installer with --force option to install without the tools.
[04:43] <FloodBot1> bianca: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:43] <bianca> Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable. Not recommended.
[04:43] <CrazyZurfer> I stopped it in 10 secconds approx
[04:43] <Nautilus> dr_willis: ok thanks for the sanity check. du is probably the reliable one
[04:43] <bianca> accident! i ment to put a link http://pastebin.com/gDRw9Ddf
[04:43] <julian-delphiki> CrazyZurfer: i recommend backing up your home folder and reinstalling
[04:43] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  unless its some sort of sparse file.
[04:43] <Nautilus> dr_willis: an SQL dump (text file)
[04:44] <CrazyZurfer> Ok, i guess I'm reinstalling
[04:45] <dr_willis> theres no need to msg me bianca  i dont use ati drivers.. so have very little experence with them
[04:45] <dr_willis> the one ati ssytem i have - uses the open sourced drivers
[04:45] <bianca> do you know how i fix that error?
[04:45] <GeminiDomino> Any gotchas for mounting /var "noexec" on xorg-less Lucid or Precise servers?
[04:46] <dr_willis> fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.
[04:46] <dr_willis> !headers
[04:46] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)    to install headers..
[04:46] <marta> thanks a lot julian-delphiki
[04:48] <bianca> it says i dont need it
[04:50] <saimanoj> @justvenky: hi
[04:50] <bianca> http://pastebin.com/GvbPFGbN
[04:50] <saimanoj> @just_venky: hi
[04:50] <julian-delphiki> bianca... uname -r
[04:50] <julian-delphiki> not raven -r
[04:50] <just_venky> @saimanoj
[04:51] <just_venky> @saimanoj: bolo
[04:51] <bianca> ohh thank you!
[04:51] <bianca> im a doofus ^_~
[04:52] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx   may have a clearer guide
[04:53] <bianca> it worked! thanks guys
[04:54] <noobatlife> Ok
[04:55] <noobatlife> Is it possible to install microsoft office 2010 using Vmware on linux ubuntu?
[04:55] <noobatlife> Is there a way i  can get a small minimalist version of windows to use?
[04:55] <noobatlife> I wouldnt go to these lengths just for Access
[04:55] <noobatlife> Its because of my school
[04:55] <noobatlife> They rely on windows products too much
[04:56] <noobatlife> I live in a country that doesnt even know that linux exist
[04:56] <dr_willis> noobatlife:  you install the OS into the virtual machine. such as Vbox or vware. then install the app on the Virtual OS in the vm.
[04:56] <dr_willis> noobatlife:  so it should work
[04:56] <noobatlife> Exacly dr willis
[04:56] <noobatlife> But i need a minimalist version of windows
[04:56] <dr_willis> noobatlife:  so Yes its possible. -
[04:56] <noobatlife> the pain of downloading a whole OS
[04:56] <bianca> dr willis, i have an 8core cpu, do i ineed to install something so ubuntu uses it properly?
[04:56] <dr_willis> Thats not really a ubuntu support issue. ;)
[04:57] <noobatlife> internet speed is slow
[04:57] <noobatlife> Yes it is
[04:57] <dr_willis> bianca:  Not that i would know of.. ubuntu has been multi core friendly for years
[04:57] <noobatlife> OK
[04:57] <noobatlife> I will do some google searching around
[04:57] <bianca> :2 okie
[04:57] <noobatlife> If i cant get anything I will call it a day
[04:57] <noobatlife> makes no sense killing out myself
[04:58] <dr_willis> some speciffic apps may not use all cores. but  it depends on the exact ap
[04:58] <bianca> its the amd 8core not the i7 4 core with hyperthreading
[04:58] <dr_willis> I doubt if it matters much. ive not herd of anything special needed for the current generation cpus.
[04:59] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[04:59] <dr_willis> test it with a live cd and see if it works. ;)
[04:59] <bianca> i dunno.. i spent alot of money on my pc and i feel as if its being waisted in linux..
[04:59] <bianca> like i went and got the bestamd motherboard and cpu and fast ram
[04:59] <dr_willis> If you bought a system for Linux and specifically got an ATI card.. you should have done some more research
[05:00] <dr_willis> 'cutting edge/just came out hardware' is the most problematic  to deal with.
[05:00] <cfhowlett> ShapeShifter499, greetings
[05:00] <bianca> no.. lol i have an nvidia laptop and ubuntu wonteven install on it cause of the graphics card
[05:00] <dr_willis> stuff that has been out for a few months to a year. are often no hassles.
[05:00] <dr_willis> I have no issues with my 4 nvidia systems.
[05:00] <dr_willis> The nvidia-optimus stuff is a problem area however. I dont own one of those
[05:01] <bianca> ohh mine is, its a 555m
[05:01] <dr_willis> #'s like that dont mean much to me. I dont keep up with latest hardware any more :)
[05:01] <dr_willis> not much point in it when im doing linux on most all my machines
[05:01] <dr_willis> i look for 'best value for the $$ and best linux compatiabilty' when buying new hardware
[05:02] <bianca> well i guess i can virtualise windows as a 4core with 8 gigs of ram >_<
[05:02] <bianca> thats only half my system so
[05:02] <dr_willis> I rarely even need to boot to windows these days.
[05:02] <bianca> i play games :3
[05:02] <dr_willis> when i do.. its like a backlog of 5+mo of updates.
[05:02] <Nautilus> in 12.04, where would I likely find the default php.ini ?
[05:03] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  try 'locate php.ini'
[05:03] <dr_willis> I imagine my Next PC will be one of those Valve Steam Pistons. ;) if they ever come out.
[05:05] <ShapeShifter499> so I recently turned my netbook into a wifi router because my current one is old, had a broken antenna, and data seemed slow.  Everything is great but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to open ports, my setup looks pretty much like the stuff I got from this guide with the exception of static ip for 2 computers in dhcpd.conf http://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/hostapd-the-linux-way-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-
[05:05] <ShapeShifter499> point/
[05:05] <ShapeShifter499> my netbook runs 12.04
[05:05] <noobatlife_> Which virtualization software is better? Virtual Box or Vmware?
[05:05] <ShapeShifter499> yes I have tried iptables with no seeming luck
[05:05] <bianca> how do you turn a netbook into a router? lol
[05:06] <ShapeShifter499> bianca, http://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/hostapd-the-linux-way-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-point/
[05:06] <Nautilus> dr_willis: I don't seem to have a default one, would that be normal? I have 17 in backups of live sites, one in docs named php.ini-development, then in usr/share/php5 there are php.ini-production, -production-dist, -production.cli
[05:07] <user02938> I used ubuntu 12.04 mini .iso (non-pae net installer) to install "ubuntu lxde desktop". Problem is my d-link dwa-125 wireless USB doesn't work with lxde but it works fine with kubuntu desktop. Why?
[05:07] <noobatlife_> Which virtualization software is better? Virtual Box or Vmware?
[05:07] <Buddy> Howdy everyone
[05:08] <Buddy> is there a better channel for those of us who are totally and completely new to Ubuntu and Linux in general? lol
[05:08] <upset> used WinUSB to try and write a live Windows usb, didn't work and want to clear it for something else but it's acting weird. umount doesn't think it's mounted.
[05:08] <Nautilus> noobatlife_: put it this way, those are the best 2. Give one a go
[05:09] <upset> sudo mkfs.vfat -n 'Label' -I /dev/sdc thinks that it's busy
[05:09] <noobatlife_> Nautilus loves crashing for no reason as well
[05:09] <user02938> Buddy, well this is a help room for ubuntu/linux
[05:10] <Nautilus> don't look at me, I'm just the friendly neighboorhood cephalopod
[05:10] <Nautilus> noobatlife_: ^
[05:10] <Buddy> thanks User... just figured you might be more into helping people with specific issues who have a vague idea of how to get around Linux
[05:10] <Buddy> I am brand new to it just starting to explore and know absolutely NOTHING! lol
[05:11] <Rich787> How do you pass arguments to a ./configure script? I tried the following: ./configure --with-apr <directory> and it says "invalid value of canonical build"
[05:12] <cfhowlett> Buddy, use the forums ... beginner section
[05:13] <Nautilus> would usr/share/php5/ be an appropriate place to put a default php.ini file?
[05:13] <Buddy> thanks cfhowlett
[05:13] <Nautilus> Buddy: first guess, it may not be mounted
[05:13] <cfhowlett> Buddy, no problem.  have fun, be safe.
[05:13] <Seven_Six_Two> woot! VT8237 and SATAIII is best described by a series of 4 letter words.
[05:14] <Buddy> oh thanks Nautilus... I actually am having no problems. Up and running well just figured IRC would be a great way to dive into a little trial and error and explore the system...
[05:14] <Buddy> where I can get a little interaction and feedback. ; ) thanks for offering such a quick help idea though
[05:15] <Seven_Six_Two> I jumpered my 6Gb/s drive to 3Gb/s. Aside from flat out not working, is there a reason not to undo it after install?
[05:15] <Nautilus> Buddy: this is a good place. hang around, be patient, etc
[05:16] <Seven_Six_Two> I have 2 sata controllers. the first is via, and it won't work with my drive. I jumpered while connected to that controller. Then I switched to another controller, and it works, but is still jumpered.
[05:16] <Buddy> lol thanks much Nautilus. Just saw 1622 total users in channel and figured this might not be the one to be flooding with total newbie kind of stuff lol
[05:16] <Nautilus> Buddy: it's the general chat channel
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> Buddy, it's not busy in here now, so don't be shy.
[05:17] <Rabblerouser> Am I correct in assuming you can only install 4GB of Linux onto an external USB?
[05:17] <upset> Again, weird flash drive. Says it isn't mounted even though I can look at file contents, when I go to format it it says it's busy. I need to clear it outl
[05:17] <Buddy> lol thanks Seven : )
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, what do you mean by "4GB of Linux"
[05:18] <Rabblerouser> The pendrive installer. Says I can only go up to ~4000MB
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, you can have partitions larger than that, and you can use usb drives that are whole, or partitioned.
[05:18] <cfhowlett> Rabblerouser, since the USB is going to boot into ram, I believe you'd be more concerned with that ...
[05:18] <yoga> Hi, there. How do I install grub 2 boot loader onto a partition(/dev/sda3)?
[05:18] <Nautilus> upset: huh, have you tried a reboot?
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, 32 bit?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> !grub|yogo
[05:19] <Rabblerouser> I realized something was wrong when I loaded up Steam on Linux and saw I only had ~300MB space left
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, how large is your usb drive/partitions?
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, is that the partitioner that's giving that limit?
[05:20] <Rabblerouser> Seven_Six_Two: 500GB total. But the Ubuntu partition is 395GB
[05:20] <Rabblerouser> The other partition is my PS3's backup :)
[05:21] <yoga> sudo grub-install /dev/sda3 will not do it, it won't allow to do that.
[05:21] <elise0001>  Donloaded newest stable version of Ubuntu. Having trouble burning it to a CD. Any advice. On my Ubuntu system, which has problems.
[05:21] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, where did the pendrive installer come from?
[05:22] <cfhowlett> elise0001, did you md5sum check the iso?
[05:22] <cfhowlett> elise0001, and no USB boot?
[05:22] <Rabblerouser> It's the one linked from the Ubuntu page. pendrivelinux.com, apparently
[05:23] <Seven_Six_Two> elise0001, what kind of problems? Have you tried both k3b and brasero?
[05:23] <yoga> the command grub-setup is not found, any idea?
[05:23] <cfhowlett> yoga, just reinstall grub to the target drive ... should be /dev/sda
[05:24] <replica> how do i upgrade my ubuntu 12.10 to ubuntu 13.04
[05:24] <Rabblerouser> Seven_Six_Two: The pendrive installer is the one linked from Ubuntu, from pendrivelinux.com (sorry if you read before, I forgot to address your name :S)
[05:24] <replica> help with th commands if u can plz
[05:24] <replica> me*
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|replica, you DO know 13.04 is BETA right?
[05:26] <replica> oh !
[05:28] <replica> ubottu i was browsing omg ubuntu and thy got lots of previews on 13.04 beta the animations look cool any help on how to get those for my 12.10 ? does sudo do-release-upgrade -d help to do tht
[05:28] <replica> lol
[05:28] <cfhowlett> replica, go to #ubuntu+1 for that
[05:28] <fafaliel> backend_version = wx.VERSION_STRING
[05:28] <fafaliel> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'VERSION_STRING'
[05:29] <fafaliel> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[05:29] <fafaliel> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[05:29] <fafaliel> DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[05:29] <fafaliel> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS"
[05:29] <fafaliel> NAME="Ubuntu"
[05:29] <FloodBot1> fafaliel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:30] <Buddy> lol.... tempermental little bot isn't it?
[05:30] <cfhowlett> Buddy, just doin the job it's assigned.
[05:30] <Rabblerouser> Seven_Six_Two, still there?
[05:30] <dr_willis> "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS" would have been enough ;)
[05:31] <yoga> cfhowlett: I wan't to reinstall grub to /dev/sda3 which is where my Ubuntu is install, the rease being is that (long story), when I install Ubuntu and during choose which location to instal the grub2 bootloader, I choose the /dev/sda, then I install another boot loader software Chameleon which cannot see Ubuntu there (no bootloader in /dev/sda3) unless I install grub2 bootloader on /dev/sda3.
[05:31] <fafaliel> Help with package python-wxgtk2.8 : backend_version = wx.VERSION_STRING
[05:31] <fafaliel> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'VERSION_STRING'
[05:31] <vhadil> hy how to fix this, i use ubuntu 10.10 http://dpaste.com/886397/
[05:31] <cfhowlett> yoga, ok, so boot an ubuntu live cd/usb and install grub where you want it.
[05:31] <dr_willis> Software Chameleon - cant even find a Ubuntu Install.. ;)
[05:32] <TheLordOfTime> !10.10 | vhadil, 10.10's end of life...
[05:32]  * cfhowlett suspects hackintosh/triple boot
[05:32] <dr_willis> !eol | vhadil
[05:32] <vhadil> so how to fix my problem
[05:32] <Buddy> howlett : )
[05:32] <cfhowlett> vhadil, time to upgrade to a supported version.  I suggest 12.04
[05:33] <tacorwin> Is it a bad idea to use Ubuntu 12.04 Live from a USB on a daily basis?
[05:33] <yoga> cfhowlett: without reinstall the whole Ubuntu again? Just the grub2, how?
[05:34] <Rabblerouser> What is the "persistent file" on a Live USB install?
[05:34] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, BAD idea?  no.  just be careful when shutting down the usb or it will scramble.
[05:34] <fafaliel> Can't anybody answer my python package question??
[05:34] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  thats a place it saves changes and user data files to
[05:34] <cfhowlett> yoga, I think it's sudo grub-install and the grub update to write the changes.
[05:34] <cfhowlett> fafaliel,  ask in #python
[05:34] <cfhowlett> fafaliel, oh, wait. sorry.  wrong response.
[05:34] <Rabblerouser> dr_willis So basically that's my "free space" on a Live USB install? And I can have, at max, 4 GB?
[05:35] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  depens on the size of your usb
[05:35] <Rabblerouser> My USB has room for plenty. :) Though I only wanted to try 160GB
[05:35] <Rabblerouser> It's an external HDD
[05:35] <vhadil> damn, reinstal
[05:35] <yoga> cfhowlett: grub-install will not allow me to install to a partical partition, that is sudo grub-install /dev/sda3 will fail!
[05:35] <tacorwin> cfhowlett: What do you mean?
[05:36] <kmon> Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for
[05:36] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  using a live install on a external HD is a little  limiting. You can do a full normal install to a external USB Hd.
[05:36] <kmon> pls help " Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for"
[05:36] <cfhowlett> vhadil, that package doesn't show up in the repos and I've got ALL universes enabled.  I'm guessing you built from source?
[05:36] <Rabblerouser> dr_willis: and how would I do that?
[05:36] <dr_willis> kmon:  we dont really know what you are asking.
[05:36] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  same as you install to a internal HD. Just be sure grub goes to the external HD
[05:37] <Rabblerouser> grub?
[05:37] <dr_willis> !grub
[05:37] <BlackWeb> I've been running into this problem ever since I installed 12.04, with the Login Screen Wallpaper, I installed a Package with Edubuntu, & ever since the login screen has been a Picture of a Satellite & a guy in the ground, I've tried Changing permissions in /usr/share/backgrounds/ No worky, I tried Erasing all the edubuntu wallpapers inside folder and login screen is just blue background, But when I go into Ubuntu tweak its showing
[05:37] <BlackWeb>  the one I selected as the one set but its not using it, Does Edubuntu Package overwrite Ubunut tweak or where is the setting for this?
[05:38] <Rabblerouser> The thing is, I'm just trying Ubuntu out. I don't really know how to even start the process of this
[05:38] <BlackWeb> Almost about to reinstall the whole system but seems like overkill for a wallpaper
[05:38] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:    i normally install from a live-usb-flash to a real external USB HD..
[05:38] <cfhowlett> BlackWeb, /ubuntu tweak/  you're managing your ubuntu system with a NON-repo and non-ubuntu product.  Expect unforeseen consequences.
[05:39] <dr_willis> BlackWeb:  or just not worry about a trivial login wallpaper.
[05:39] <wing_> hi
[05:39] <cfhowlett> wing_, greetings
[05:39] <dr_willis> BlackWeb:  could be its not using lightdm also.
[05:39] <Rabblerouser> dr_willis: Ubuntu will give me the option to select which drive to install to?
[05:39] <fafaliel> apt package for wxPython => AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'VERSION_STRING' ?
[05:39] <wing_> thanks, could someone please help me fix internet?
[05:39] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  yes. theres a custome install section
[05:39] <dr_willis> wing_:  thats a little vague.. give more details
[05:40] <wing_> i think my DNS not working
[05:40] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll try, reinstalling & leave out the edubuntu package
[05:40] <cfhowlett> fafaliel, ask in #python as well.  That package isn't part of ubuntu ...
[05:40] <BlackWeb> Thanks for Help everyone
[05:40] <cfhowlett> wing_, why?
[05:40] <wing_> i did upgrade to quantal and now it connects to wireless but doesn't work in browser
[05:40] <dr_willis> wing_:  but IRC works?
[05:40] <wing_> this is different computer
[05:40] <Rabblerouser> Hm.. I'll see if I can get the process started now. Thanks. I'll hit you up if it don't work.
[05:41] <cfhowlett> wing_, wired uses DNS to search internet names ....
[05:41] <wing_> yeah I'm not sure that's where the problem is
[05:41] <cfhowlett> BlackWeb, try sudo apt-get purge edubuntu
[05:41] <cfhowlett> wing_,  if your wired can see the internet, it's NOT  a DNS issue.
[05:41] <wing_> it's a little strange since it connects fine to the router but can't seem to get to the internet
[05:41] <tacorwin> Is it a bad idea to use Ubuntu 12.04 Live from a USB on a daily basis? (I already asked, but didnt get a clear responce
[05:42] <wing_> it's wireless
[05:42] <yoga> So my question would be: How do I reinstall grub on a partition instead of on the drive, while grub-install /dev/sda3 failed?
[05:42] <cfhowlett> tacorwin if you need daily ubuntu, you can install virtualbox in win and put ubuntu on that ... safely
[05:42] <wing_> i really don't know where to start for something like this cfhowlett so I came here
[05:42] <cfhowlett> wing_, understood.
[05:43] <user02938> tarcorwin, from past experience, ubuntu on usb runs horribly slow and updates can fail.  Might depend on the quality and speed of your usb
[05:43] <dr_willis> yoga:  what was the exact command you used?
[05:43] <cfhowlett> wing_, does your wifi indicator light up?  and what is your hardware?
[05:43] <tacorwin> cfhowlett: My main issue is that i have a portable computer, but i cant install it because the flash memory is all corrupted from extended use.
[05:44] <wing_> yeah it connects fine, it's a vaio, the light is on, everything seems cool until I open browser and it acts like it's not connected
[05:44] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, ummm, we cannot work around hardware failures with software.
[05:44] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, so I guess USB is the way to go
[05:45] <dr_willis> wing_:  start with a ping test. to see if you can ping the local pcs and google.com and the router.
[05:45] <bianca> now that humans have left chernoble, animals have moved in and calling it home >_< :( kinda sad that its hurting them though
[05:45] <dr_willis> wing_:  ping google.com   in a tutorial.
[05:45] <tacorwin> will i be able to run sudo apt-get update?
[05:45] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, I wouldn't.
[05:45] <dr_willis> in a terminal. ;)
[05:46] <julian-delphiki> bianca: this is a support channel..
[05:46] <wing_> i tried that it says unknown host
[05:46] <bianca> im supporting!
[05:46] <dr_willis> wing_:  now try 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>'
[05:46] <wing_> i can ping my router though
[05:46] <tacorwin> cfhowlett: okay, just checking.
[05:46] <julian-delphiki> bianca: not by talking about chernobyl
[05:47] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, the biggest problems I've hard are updates and accidentally yanking the USB before uubntu shuts down.  The latter will scramble your system.
[05:47] <bianca> im educating
[05:47] <wing_> ok ping <IP_ADDRESS> works fine also
[05:47] <julian-delphiki> bianca, no
[05:47] <dr_willis> wing_:  so these tests point to you not having a proper DNS server setup.
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !ot|bianca,
[05:47] <bianca> julian, yes :3
[05:47] <thomedy> quick question... i have been doing very well... as of late... however i m still fairly new at this i have an overflow of work and handing it off to people ... i have  a list of contacts that im pretty confident in to take my over flow ... here is my question... im now taking on the roll of project management as well as developper which is awesome i have a contract i have to bid on but before i can bid on it i need some psd's is it reaso
[05:47] <thomedy> nable to ask my overflow people to give me a mockup to send my potential client ... my goal is to ask 3 or so of my overflows for mockups and get their quote on time and price and then send it to my client and then choose...
[05:47] <julian-delphiki> bianca: you even spelled chernobyl wrong.
[05:47] <thomedy> okay thats it is that reasonable
[05:47] <yoga> dr_willis: sudo grub-install /dev/sda3
[05:47] <dr_willis> wing_:  <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> are googles free DNS servers. You can use the network config tools to set them as your default dns servers
[05:47] <bianca> at least i made an effort :3
[05:47] <wing_> yeah, I don't see anywhere to change dns settings
[05:47] <thomedy> dam... sorry im not where i thought i was
[05:47] <cfhowlett> thomedy, nothing to do with ubuntu and wrong channel...
[05:48] <thomedy> no i just realized where i was my bad
[05:48] <yoga> /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.w
[05:48] <yoga> /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[05:48] <yoga> /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[05:48] <cfhowlett> wing_, any chance the problem is on the router side?  i.e. set to reject unknown/new wireless connections?
[05:48] <CrazyZurfer> :'( is there a way to see all installed software in my ubuntu in order to download them later  after reinstalling ubuntu?
[05:48] <intestino> hi, greeting from Indonesia!
[05:49] <wing_> cfhowlett, no I think it's a DNS thing
[05:49] <dr_willis> !clone | CrazyZurfer
[05:49] <cfhowlett> CrazyZurfer, yes.  wait one.
[05:49] <cfhowlett> intestino, greetings
[05:49] <wing_> I'll lookup how to change that
[05:49] <wing_> thanks for your help dr and cf
[05:50] <cfhowlett> wing_, good luck,
[05:54] <CrazyZurfer> How do you guys do the simple quote with us keyboard?
[05:54] <dr_willis> simple quote? Single Quote?  ' ' ' '
[05:54] <dr_willis> its right there next to the enter key. ;)
[05:55] <dr_willis> " ' " ' "  jkl;'
[05:55] <CrazyZurfer> Thanks
[05:55] <CrazyZurfer> Ubuntu loaded with us desktop :)
[05:55]  * cfhowlett where's the 'ANY' key?
[05:55] <CrazyZurfer> Us keyboard i mean
[05:55]  * dr_willis writes ANY on cfhowlett's delete key
[05:56] <Klownicle> Can someone help me, im getting a "db5 error(-30969) Database Enviroment Vers.ion Mismatch" when attempting to install a package.  I just recently upgraded to 11.10
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Klownicle, what package is causing this error
[05:56] <omabena> hello
[05:56] <dr_willis> how did you upgrade?
[05:56] <Klownicle> Googleing around mentions to remove any old files in \var\lib\rpm then rebuild, but its not working.
[05:56] <Klownicle> I did a inplace upgrade via the update.
[05:57] <omabena> any of you guys, know how can I install xmllint
[05:57] <dr_willis> !find xmllint
[05:57] <Klownicle> Its an acronis backup package I had been using previously before upgrade.
[05:57] <dr_willis> xmllint
[05:57] <dr_willis> Usage : xmllint [options] XMLfiles
[05:57] <dr_willis> Its installed here.. ;) no idea what package it came from
[05:58] <jtrucks> does the postfixadmin .deb work correctly with 12.04?
[05:58] <dr_willis> if you just type 'xmllint' it may tell you
[05:58] <omabena> mmm it's not installed by default right?
[05:58] <dr_willis> No idea.
[05:59] <dr_willis> if you want to install it.. :) its aparently not installed..  so i guess not.
[05:59] <mysteriousdaren> disappointing playdeb is dead :(
[05:59] <dr_willis> Never really used it.
[06:00] <omabena> well yeah, just installed that packages libxml2 something and it's there
[06:00] <omabena> thanks for echoing that!
[06:00] <mysteriousdaren> well I preferred it to ubuntu software center, for many not official packages
[06:01] <Klownicle> Anyone able to help me out?  Google isn't being too helpful :-/
[06:01] <CrazyZurfer> Abou clone dr_willis the terminal from the live cd says that I dont have installed aptitude and cant install it :(
[06:02] <Seven_Six_Two> I just noticed that I have no sound (tray icon shows --). HP g60 laptop. I use it for school, and it's normally muted so I don't know when it got stuck that way
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Seven_Six_Two, left click on the sound icon and unmute
[06:03] <Adirolfx> Anyone know of a way to adjust contrast on Lenovo Thinkpad?  I can adjust brightness, but can't figure out contrast
[06:04] <Rabblerouser> Weird. Tried starting the Live USB with a 4GB persistent file, but it just hung there
[06:04] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, that's not an option in the menu that appears. Only the slider (can't move), rhythmbox applet, audacious shortcut, and sound settings.
[06:04] <jtrucks> hmm. apparently it does.
[06:05] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, nothing listed in settings >> play sound through
[06:05] <CrazyZurfer> Daaamn!
[06:05] <cfhowlett> Seven_Six_Two, run a terminal;  pavucontrol
[06:05] <CrazyZurfer> Sorry for cursing :(
[06:06] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, connection to pulseaudio failed. retrying in 5s
[06:06] <CrazyZurfer> Any way to get my files back from live cd when ubuntu files got a 644 chmod?
[06:06] <cfhowlett> Seven_Six_Two, also run the alsamixer in terminal and check your settings
[06:07] <bean> CrazyZurfer: you could chmod +x /path/to/executable
[06:07] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, I started pulseaudio service, now pavu says establishing connection to PA. please wait.
[06:08] <CrazyZurfer> Bean I stupidly did "sudo chmod 644 -R /"
[06:08] <bean> CrazyZurfer, I know.
[06:08] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, those are fine
[06:09] <CrazyZurfer> And what do you mean by path to executable
[06:09] <Seven_Six_Two> pavu is still trying to connect to pulse
[06:09] <cfhowlett> Seven_Six_Two, I guess you already tried rebooting?
[06:09] <bean> CrazyZurfer: So you could make everything executable so you can at least run things
[06:09] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, as a last resort!
[06:10] <bean> CrazyZurfer: so you could do chmod +x -R /
[06:10] <bean> CrazyZurfer, and that would be slightly less unfucked
[06:10] <CrazyZurfer> Or chmod +x -R /media/ubuntu because Im on live cd now
[06:11] <bean> CrazyZurfer: yep
[06:11] <bean> it might still not work
[06:11] <bean> could try though
[06:12] <CrazyZurfer> That's cool :)
[06:12] <CrazyZurfer> May I ask a question?
[06:12] <CrazyZurfer> No
[06:12] <CrazyZurfer> Nothing
[06:13] <CrazyZurfer> Srry xd
[06:13] <wing_> does ubuntu default to these two DNS servers? <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:14] <SwedeMike> wing_: no, there is no default dns server in ubuntu.
[06:14] <wing_> also if DNS wasn't working couldn't I just type in the IP address for some server into my browser?
[06:15] <bean> wing_: no
[06:15] <bean> wing_: http/1.1 requires a host header
[06:15] <bean> to determine the site to be loaded
[06:15] <wing_> SwedeMike: where is this coming from then, I have them in my DNS but I never add the
[06:16] <wing_> hmm ok, I can ping DNS servers just fine
[06:16] <wing_> but my browser cannot do this?
[06:16] <bean> but you can't query them?
[06:16] <bean> dig @<IP_ADDRESS> google.com
[06:17] <CrazyZurfer> Bean: things appear with permissions = owner: 1000 - user #1000
[06:17] <CrazyZurfer> Is that normal?
[06:17] <bean> CrazyZurfer: yes, uid 1000 = first user non system created
[06:18] <wing_> bean yeah it's weird
[06:19] <CrazyZurfer> Bean: where dic you learn so much? :)
[06:19] <wing_> what does dig @<IP_ADDRESS> mean?
[06:19] <CrazyZurfer> Did*
[06:20] <bean> CrazyZurfer: i do this all day at work
[06:20] <dr_willis> dig - DNS lookup utility
[06:20] <bean> wing_: run that on the command line,
[06:20] <dr_willis>  dig (domain information groper) is a flexible tool for interrogating DNS name servers.
[06:20] <bean> its to see if you can query any dns servers.
[06:21] <wing_> ok done
[06:22] <dr_willis> ;; Query time: 48 msec
[06:22] <wing_> it's really strange because I had internet, did the upgrade to quantal, albeit a weird way, then upon restart bam, this problem
[06:22] <dr_willis> shows i have a decent connection to the <IP_ADDRESS> dns servers wing_
[06:22] <wing_> i got 398 msec
[06:23] <bean> wing_: but it came back with a result?
[06:23] <wing_> yeah it seemed to do fine, no errors
[06:23] <bean> wing_: have you tried to curl anything
[06:23] <wing_> no
[06:24] <wing_> curl google.com ?
[06:24] <bean> yeah
[06:24] <bean> it should spit back a blob of code
[06:24] <CrazyZurfer> Bean: when I do a "dir" at /home/ubuntu  it says a big string of numbers and "-" and at the end Joako -> that was my user name what is all that string :)
[06:24] <wing_> Couldn't resolve host 'google.com'
[06:24] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[06:24] <wing_> I think something got messed up when I upgraded
[06:25] <bean> wing_: if you do dig google.com without the @<IP_ADDRESS> does the results look different
[06:25] <dr_willis> CrazyZurfer:  dir here just gives a list of filenames.  perhaps you have a dir alias thats differnt.
[06:25] <dr_willis> alias dir   (may show the alias)
[06:25] <wing_> bean, it says that it timed out no servers could e reahed
[06:26] <bean> ok
[06:26] <JokesOnYou77> I just attached an IDE drive to my computer by USB (with a converter) and it shows up in palimpsest but not in fdisk -l or anywhere else I can find.  Can anyone help me mount it?
[06:26] <wing_> reached
[06:26] <bean> wing_: you need to change what dns servers you are using
[06:26] <bean> wing_: do you know how to do that?
[06:26] <iter> wing, you need an IP address, default gateway and subnet mask, and nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:26] <wing_> do you think that if you knew how I did upgrade it would help?
[06:26] <bean> iter: ... no
[06:26] <bean> no.
[06:27] <nuxninja> anybody want my help .......questions please
[06:27] <wing_> umm, not really I tried to but it has <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> still for some odd reason,
[06:27] <wing_> bean I used the network panel
[06:28] <bean> wing_, okay, see if it will let you set custom dns servers. use <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:28] <xib> bean, er
[06:28] <cfhowlett> wing_, for grins and giggles, please reset your router and attempt to connect
[06:28] <dr_willis> wing_:  thers really only 1 or 2 ways to upgrade...  unless you did somthing really wonky
[06:28] <CrazyZurfer> !cline
[06:28] <CrazyZurfer> !clone
[06:29] <iter> why would you use opendns?
[06:29] <wing_> I put <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> after changing settings to Automatic(DHCP) addresses only
[06:29] <iter> they are evil
[06:29] <iter> very good wing, use goog dns at least
[06:29] <bean> wing_: okay, that should work.
[06:29] <bean> iter: because it doesn't matter?
[06:29] <bean> iter: opendns is perfectly safe.
[06:29] <Jokes> I just attached an IDE drive to my computer by USB (with a converter) and it shows up in palimpsest but not in fdisk -l or anywhere else I can find.  Can anyone help me mount it?
[06:29] <iter> shrug, f opendns and their nxdomain hijacking
[06:29] <iter> at least goog doesn't do taht
[06:30] <iter> wing_: ifconfig shows your correct info for IP and subnet mask ?
[06:30] <wing_> dr_willis: what I did, and it seemed to work fine until this, was to change all my sources.list to the quantal default ones, then I did upgrade through the upgrade manager
[06:30] <iter> and netstat -rn has your correct gateway?
[06:30] <dr_willis> wing_:  that was totally the Wrong way.. You are lucky the system even boots.
[06:31] <dr_willis> Jokes:  try 'sudo blkid' to see if its seen
[06:31] <iter> that's the old school debian method right there
[06:32] <wing_> dr_willis: so I did it the wonky way?
[06:32] <iter> %s/olddistro/newdistro/g && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[06:32] <dr_willis> wing_:  the worse way possible i imagine..
[06:32] <dr_willis> for ubuntu
[06:33] <iter> meh, nothing that you can't fix
[06:33] <Jokes> dr_willis, it's not seen according to blkid, but palimpsest shows it as a peripheral usb device on /dev/sde
[06:33] <iter> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> wing_
[06:34] <wing_> bean no luck, it has listed the google DNS servers now but still the browser doesn't find servers :-(
[06:34] <wing_> iter yeah that works fine
[06:34] <iter> can you ping google.com
[06:34] <wing_> no
[06:35] <dr_willis> Jokes:  id unplug/plug it back in.. and see if dmesg mentions any errors about it
[06:35] <iter> cat /etc/resolv.conf | pastebinit
[06:35] <Jokes> dr_willis, replugging worked!  Now I feel a little silly, but thank you :)
[06:35] <wing_> no such file or directory
[06:35] <iter> right, that's not installed
[06:36] <iter> try sudo echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' >> /etc/resolv.conf
[06:36] <iter> then ping google.com again
[06:37] <bean> can't sudo echo with redirection
[06:37] <bean> that won't work
[06:37] <iter> ok... sudo -s
[06:37] <bean> echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[06:37] <iter> then echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' >> /etc/resolv.conf
[06:38] <Jokes> dr_willis, I now have a new problem.  Most of the drive is made of logical partitions and I can't access them
[06:38] <Jokes> Error starting job: Failed to execute child process "lvchange" (No such file or directory)
[06:38] <dr_willis> Jokes:  what filesystem?
[06:38] <wing_> permission denied
[06:38] <Jokes> dr_willis, ext4
[06:38] <wing_> using sudo or sudo -s
[06:38] <bean> wing_: use this
[06:38] <bean>  echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[06:38] <iter> if you type sudo -s and press enter it should ask for a password
[06:39] <dr_willis> Jokes:   so if you try to mout them by hand they give any error messages?
[06:39] <wing_> oh, i"ll try other way
[06:40] <wing_> thannks now I can ping google.com
[06:40] <bean> yw
[06:40] <Jokes> dr_willis, mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[06:41] <wing_> but browser still can't see it, do I need to restart them?
[06:41] <Jokes> Maybe I should just plug it back into the old box and use a live distro :/
[06:41] <wing_> oh I guess so
[06:41] <dr_willis> Jokes:  ive  never used lvm's so no idea on those
[06:41] <wing_> It works now thanks!!!
[06:41] <wing_> that was strange
[06:42] <iter> what happens when you type sudo -s and press enter
[06:42] <wing_> dr_willis: apparently I've found a new way to upgrade, just make sure to fix /etc/resolv.conf after attempting my method
[06:43] <Jokes> dr_willis, crap.  Thanks for trying.
[06:43] <Jokes> Anyone know how to mount an external drive that uses LVM groups?
[06:43] <dr_willis> wing_:  its not a new way.. its an old way that has left many people who come in here with totally unbootable systems
[06:44] <wing_> dr_willis: seems like the easiest way, it really should be supported
[06:45] <wing_> it could be called a 'seamless' upgrade
[06:46] <Jokes> dr_willis, IT LIVES!!!
[06:46] <dr_willis> wing_:  it can cause severe breakage....   theres reasons they developed the do-release-upgrade tool
[06:46] <Jokes> Had to install package: lvm2  apparently was removed after 11.04 update
[06:47] <wing_> hmm I'll have to look into that method could be a bit safer for next time
[06:48] <iter> yes, use do-release-upgrade
[06:48] <dr_willis> a bit safer is a understatement..
[06:48] <dr_willis> You could have been looking at a total reinstall.
[06:48] <iter> however I have a machine which has been upgraded since dapper with the other method
[06:48] <iter> works fine
[06:49] <iter> wow that's 14 releases ago huh
[06:49] <iter> dayam
[06:50] <wing_> I remember when Ubuntu first came out I had them send me some CD's
[06:50] <nighthawknz> anyone got hyperv experience
[06:50] <wing_> they were free
[06:57] <wing_> should I use firmware-libertas or linux-firmware?
[07:00] <nathanbz> hey
[07:00] <nathanbz> how do i tell what version of apache i have installed
[07:00] <nathanbz> as in prefork, normal etc
[07:01] <wing_> oic it looks like firmware-libertas is obsolete now
[07:01] <iter> if you installed from repos you can dpkg -i | grep -i apache
[07:01] <nathanbz> thanks iter thats the command i wanted :)
[07:01] <iter> in that case you definitely want the correct command
[07:01] <iter> should be dpkg -l sorry
[07:01] <nathanbz> yeah i knew it was l
[07:02] <nathanbz> I just couldn'
[07:02] <nathanbz> was just having a brain fart
[07:06] <wing_> what's this weird screen sliding thing in quantal called?
[07:11] <arunkumar413> how to make geany execute this command : "qmlscene <filename>
[07:12] <wing_> anyone know what it's called, it's when you go to the bottom of the screen and the whole thing comes up
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> wing_: some kind of hot corner app?
[07:13] <wing_> it's the default in quantal when your cursor goes to the bottom of the screen
[07:13] <wing_> I'd like to remove it but I don't know what it's name is
[07:13] <arunkumar413> wing_: notification area
[07:14] <wing_> thanks
[07:15] <arunkumar413> how to make geany execute the terminal command : "qmlscene <filename>"
[07:16] <arunkumar413> instead of going to the terminal and compliling the program I want to compile it directly from the geany
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Arunkumar413: ask in #geany too
[07:22]  * TXRoadkill is away: Off to find a shrubbery...
[07:22] <somsip> !away > TXRoadkill
[07:28] <Ascavasaion> I have tried to do a sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and it tells me there is no candidate.  Do I need to enable nonfree in repositories, and if so where do I do it?  I have opened Synaptic for ease of use now.
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> ! Info flashplugin-nonfree
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue     thanks
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: cat /etc/issue - Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: enable the multiverse repo
[07:31] <mikubuntu> last two times i've booted i get a message (preboot) that /tmp file is not present or mounted ... with the option to skip or mount manually ... whats up with that
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: do you have a separate partition for /tmp?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: is the /tmp folder present?
[07:35] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: i don't know ... if i enter 'm' for manual mount it seems to go ahead and boot
[07:35] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: It is enabled.
[07:36] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: i haven't done anything other than the updates that the manager presents
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:37] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: worried that one of the next times i try to boot its not going to
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: what is the output of:   file /tmp
[07:38] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: E: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: flashplugin-installer
[07:39] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: just a sec
[07:40] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[07:40] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: /tmp: sticky directory
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: does: ls -l / | grep tmp    show full access (drwxsrexrwx)
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Without the e
[07:43] <lex_> ey guyz
[07:44] <Ascavasaion> Hell, am I the ooooooonly person on Planet earth that can never get Flash to work?
[07:44] <lex_> oh really?
[07:44] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: drwxrwxrwt  13 root root 135168 Jan 22 02:39 tmp  (tmp in red)
[07:46] <Ascavasaion> Does Microsoft own Adobe/Flash now?  Judging by the fact that its downloads never work, they are stopping support... sure sounds like a Microsoft move to me.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: adobe owns flash
[07:47] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Oh, well then I am just too stupid to get it to work.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: I use chrome,  it comes with pepper flash, no need for Adobe's thing
[07:48] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Chrome, Chromium, and Firefox do not work with Flash when I touch it.
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: mine is green.  Could be significant.
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: i remove all flash packages and install chrome,  done
[07:49] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: LEt me try that.
[07:49] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: you think? :P
[07:49] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: you think? :P
[07:50] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: I began with a sudo apt-get emove flash*
[07:50] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: i was assuming that it could be a bug that came in an update -- this is the first case you heard of this?
[07:50] <Ascavasaion> emove=emove
[07:51] <hellyeah> hey
[07:51] <hellyeah> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[07:51] <hellyeah> what are you saying about this
[07:51] <Ascavasaion> Oh for the love of!  No chrome either.  Only chrome available.
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: this is support only
[07:52] <Ascavasaion> Oh for the love of!  No chrome either.  Only CHROMIUM available.
[07:52] <hellyeah> i just ask for response
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: its nit in the repos. Calm down
[07:52] <hellyeah> question is ubuntu 12 comes with spyware
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: I suggest you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <hellyeah> hmm
[07:53] <hellyeah> okey
[07:53] <somsip> !adlens | hellyeah
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: thats not a question,  its sn incorrect statement
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: its not spyware
[07:54] <dr_willis> and its been covered in detail in about every blog and  other ubuntu info sites about.. what? 8 mo ago?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: yoy been in a cave or something?
[07:55] <hellyeah> man
[07:55] <hellyeah> i just saw a mail abouthat
[07:55] <hellyeah> and i come here to ask
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: I was watching this tv show about this guy called Hitler, we should totally stop him
[07:56] <dr_willis> down with evil! ;)
[07:57] <dr_willis> hellyeah:  see   Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ   and the info at the omgubuntu and webupd8 and other ubuntu blogging sites
[07:57] <david_> Wondering if linux projects could be compiled in android
[07:57] <somsip> ActionParsnip: As someone who is in this channel to help others when he can, I find your response to hellyeah deplorable. You're usually very helpful. It is not necessary to rag an uninformed person like this. I though we were better in this channel
[07:57] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: I did the following http://www.itworld.com/software/304992/install-googles-chrome-browser-ubuntu-1210 and chrome is downloading.
[07:58] <hellyeah> ActionParsnip:  you dont have to attack me
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: I didn't,  just pointing out that its not spyware
[07:58] <dr_willis> david_:  not without some work i imagine.
[07:59] <hellyeah> ActionParsnip:  yoy been in a cave or something? this is kinda aggressive talking
[07:59] <hellyeah> no problem anyways
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Was meant as a joke, apologies all round
[08:00] <david_> I know its possible with the NDK somehow.
[08:00] <somsip> ActionParsnip: ok by me. Back on-topic then, eh?
[08:01] <hellyeah> ActionParsnip:  actually i want to defend ubuntu because i saw an email in mailling list. And i need source to collapse this statement. Because i know there are a lot of people that saw these email and probably use ubuntu. I dont want  anyone have biased idea or something
[08:01] <hellyeah> i love open source.
[08:01] <cloudu> i love open source tooo
[08:02] <varikonniemi> how can i make the fullscreen videos of the web not to open in the upper left most monitor? I have the second monitor on the left side, and it opens all flash in it
[08:02] <Ascavasaion> hellyeah: Let it go, he was joking, you misunderstood him which is easy on chat.  ActionParsnip is the most helpful perso in the channel, and I have been coming here for years.
[08:02] <cloudu> any one  know step by step off cloud
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: the data is anonymous,  so its not spying
[08:03] <hellyeah> ActionParsnip:  my english is kinda poor i am sorry if i misunderstood you wrongly
[08:03] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: any idea how to fix?
[08:03] <hellyeah> but i am sincere with last thing i said
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Cloudu: what is off cloud please?
[08:03] <varikonniemi> nvsettings does not help here, as i have selected the primary monitor
[08:03] <varikonniemi> et flash does not accept this
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: if you run:   mount; lsb_release -a; uname -a      can you pastebin the output please
[08:05] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: just a sec
[08:05] <apm1> if i enable/on the firewall in gufw  once and then close gufw will the firewall be disabled ?
[08:05] <cloudu> cloud computing
[08:06] <dr_willis> varikonniemi:  the omgubuntu or webupd8 blog site had a artical on flash 'hacks/tweaks' to fix some of the issues with full screen flash videos. Mainly dealing with Multi-monitor support
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Cloudu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Apm1: ufw will run in the background
[08:07] <varikonniemi> dr_willis, do you happen to have an url?
[08:08] <apm1> with the same prefrences as i previously setup with gufw ?
[08:08] <dr_willis> varikonniemi:  nope. those are the only 2 ubuntu news/blog sites i go to . so it was on one of those 2
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Apm1: yes, gufw is a GUI to the service
[08:08] <varikonniemi> kk i try google my way through :D
[08:08] <apm1> and do i have to edit these prefrences after every reboot
[08:08] <david_> It is interresting that 11.2 would be the last adobe flash for linux, since a merger of Adobe with Microsoft is in the works.
[08:08] <dr_willis> varikonniemi:   or go to the 2 sites and look ;) i belive it was on the top 'links' bar of one of them the other day
[08:09] <varikonniemi> david_, merger?
[08:09] <varikonniemi> where from is this info
[08:09] <varikonniemi> i thought it had to do with google taking over flash development on linux through chromium, and adobe just freeing resources
[08:10] <apm1> ActionParsnip, do i have to edit these preferences everytime or ufw retains them even after a reboot ?
[08:10] <vhadil> i want to build ubuntu server, stable version for server version what 12.
[08:11] <somsip> vhadil: if it's for production, 12.04 is probably best as you have long term support on it
[08:11] <david_> I tried to watch a facew book video and it said that I needed a plugin.  When I clicked to get it, it said 11.2 was the final release.  I read elsewhere of a partnership of Microsoft with Adobe and a possible merger.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Vhadil: I'd go for precise,  it is LTS
[08:12] <vhadil> ActionParsnip, thanks dude
[08:12] <chamunks> how do I allow permalinks in apache I thought it was simply a2enmod rewrite
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> David_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'     thanks