[03:15] <darrend> anyone still seeing major memory issues with beagle?
[03:16] <afat> Cool!
[03:16] <NumBeast> afat: it's just w a better theme (imho) and with different pre-installed stuff
[03:16] <techII> beagle is a bit bloated imo
[03:16] <darrend> I just illed an index process using 1.1G of resident ram and 99.9% of both cpu's on my bix
[03:16] <techII> theres trackerd, but it doesn't do as much
[03:16] <darrend> *killed
[03:16] <techII> but takes up a lot less space
[03:16] <blackalex> im having some issues botting into my ubuntu installation; is this the right channel?
[03:16] <albert`> hey guys
[03:17] <albert`> whats the name of the ubuntu partition editor
[03:17] <albert`> something Gnome?
[03:17] <darrend> techII: thx, I might take a look
[03:17] <NumBeast> blackalex: shoot and we'll try to answer
[03:17] <techII> blackalex: best i know of
[03:17] <willskills`afk> gparted albert`
[03:17] <blackalex> ok.
[03:17] <lousygarua> Thomsen: malocite: seems like only one monitor is defined, and the TV monitor is not configured
[03:17] <malocite> hmmm
[03:17] <albert`> willskills: where can I find gparted on ubuntu, or will i have to install it manually?
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> blackalex: Did it ever work?
[03:17] <blackalex> I used the alternate ubuntu 7.04 install cd.
[03:17] <willskills`afk> it should be there
[03:17] <malocite> lousygarua: do you know how I can put that one in?
[03:17] <blackalex> the installation never errored out, but grub is giving me "error 17"
[03:17] <albert`> willskills`afk: I can't seem to find it
[03:17] <blackalex> right as it starts
[03:18] <willskills`afk> sudo gparted
[03:18] <lousygarua> malocite: Thomsen: i'm no X expert though. didn't they write anything about this on the page where u took the script from?
[03:18] <malocite> surprisingly no
[03:18] <albert`> willskills`afk: thanks
[03:18] <eldkraft> ok but when I reboot the 'enable wireless' is checked again
[03:18] <NumBeast> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> blackalex: Multiple drives, raid setup anything like that
[03:18] <willskills`afk> or maybe u do need to install it :P
[03:18] <albert`> command not found
[03:18] <NumBeast> blackalex:   http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[03:18] <willskills`afk> I dont remember to be honest
[03:18] <techII> hmm on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe3 it tells you to use update-manager
[03:18] <blackalex> yes; i have a raid setup (RAID1) with 3114
[03:18] <lousygarua> malocite: maybe google some more for a similar command. Does the TV work at all?
[03:18] <NumBeast> blackalex: this person found a solution
[03:18] <techII> but im running 64 bit
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[03:18] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:18] <albert`> willskills`afk: it says unknown command
[03:19] <malocite> yeah
[03:19] <malocite> but all skrewed up,
[03:19] <mongo> Can anyone recommend a good resource for learning IRC?
[03:19] <malocite> you can't see anything on it, resolution is all wrong etc
[03:19] <lousygarua> malocite: sounds like something about the refresh rate
[03:19] <malocite> yeah
[03:19] <malocite> totally
[03:19] <albert`> does anyone know how I can get gparted for ubuntu?
[03:19] <kevin4381> when is compiz-fusion going to be easy to download and install? :)
[03:19] <malocite> I just wish I knew how to change it
[03:19] <malocite> I've been researching this for 2 1/2 days now
[03:19] <lousygarua> malocite: i have nvidia, and they provide a GUI tool for changing all these stuff
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: It is on the live cd or synaptic can grab it
[03:20] <albert`> thanks
[03:20] <albert`> do u know which category
[03:20] <techII> kevin4381: in gutsy (next version), no idea when it gets released
[03:20] <malocite> I can't use the ati driver, I have to use the open source one, or my monitor goes haywire
[03:20] <NumBeast> mongo: google says http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[03:20] <albert`> Jack_Sparrow: thank you, do you know which specific category
[03:20] <kevin4381> techII:  is it easy to upgrade ubuntu?
[03:20] <mongo> Thank you
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: system admin on live, in synaptic I just tell it to find it
[03:20] <kevin4381> like if I DL gutsy; is there an 'upgrade' option?
[03:20] <blackalex> so someone posted this on the forums: root (hd2,1) ; setup (hd0)
[03:20] <albert`> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[03:20] <kevin4381> or do I have to format?
[03:20] <blackalex> im going to try that; think that might be my solution there?
[03:21] <techII> i wouldn't reccomend using gutsy unless you can fix everything that could happen
[03:21] <lousygarua> malocite: open driver? does it have OpenGL acceleration at all? and what's this elisa program?
[03:21] <malocite> yes
[03:22] <malocite> elisa is a mediacenter type program
[03:22] <sammyF_> !jack
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <kevin4381> techII:  I don't want to use it now.. but when it is officially released...
[03:22] <malocite> !radeon
[03:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <techII> it is supposed to have compiz-fusion in it
[03:22] <NumBeast> /afk birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, and I gotta program
[03:23] <sammyF_> anybody using a jack enabled sound program, like rosegarden?
[03:23] <crdlb> malocite, unfortunately the radeon driver has poor tv out support, and the proprietary ati driver no longer supports your card
[03:23] <kevin4381> my question is... is it possible to UPGRADE ubuntu? or do you have to format/install every time  a new version comes out (assuming you always want to run the newest version)
[03:23] <malocite> yeah
[03:23] <malocite> i kjnow
[03:23] <crdlb> !upgrade | kevin4381
[03:23] <ubotu> kevin4381: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:23] <d4rkmonkey> kevin4381, you can upgrade
[03:23] <techII> kevin4381: yes
[03:23] <malocite> the old proprietary driver makes my monitor go super bright
[03:23] <Thomsen> malocite: I'm not sure, but maybe you should try disabling some of the modules in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa that is for opengl support, Just a guess though...
[03:23] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, Rhythm box won't import wma files because it doesn't have the decoder, how do I fix this?
[03:23] <NumBeast> kevin4381: update manager will tell you when there's a new distro out, and you just have to click a button for it to upgrade for you
[03:23] <lousygarua> malocite: yeah, your error comes from openGL
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> Beyond_The_Grave: import them to what, an ipod, or what?
[03:24] <kevin4381> cool; thanks :)
[03:24] <lousygarua> malocite: maybe bcoz it's loaded on your main X server, you can't load it twice on the additional X server for the TV
[03:24] <sammyF_> Beyond_The_Grave: are those protected?
[03:24] <Beyond_The_Grave> No, just to my library
[03:24] <malocite> thomsen: hmmm.... i'm gonna try disabling everything, see if that works
[03:24] <lousygarua> malocite: so all fails and dies
[03:24] <Thomsen> malocite: don't disable everything, then nothing will work.
[03:24] <malocite> :)
[03:24] <taxman> Beyond_The_Grave: if they are not protected, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:24] <Amon-san> hi, is there a way to install sunbird in feisty via apt/synaptic?
[03:24] <blackalex> grr ive only been using linux for the last 3 days; mainly in the livecd and such (lol) never got the grub to work; whats the command for creating a folder? (sorry for the noob question of the day)
[03:25] <NumBeast> Beyond_The_Grave: if you installed the restriced format stuff you should be able to play them
[03:25] <Beyond_The_Grave> Don't know it says it doesn't have the GStreamer decoder for "ASF"
[03:25] <malocite> thomsen: just disable glx?
[03:25] <Thomsen> malocite: Perhaps try using your normal xorg.xonf file. I'm not sure why you would need another file...
[03:25] <orbisvicis> !pastebin
[03:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:25] <Beyond_The_Grave> I've installed all the GStreamer libs
[03:26] <taxman> blackalex: mkdir on the commandline, or file --> create folder in the gui
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> blackalex: Right click the desktop
[03:26] <rockets> How can I find out which process is opening a certain port?
[03:26] <NumBeast> blackalex: type "man mkdir" but it's not a grub thing
[03:26] <sammyF_> Beyond_The_Grave: outsch .. yeah .. same problem with ASF. VLC can read them fine, but that's it
[03:26] <Beyond_The_Grave> Hmm... so there's no work around it till Rhythmbox does something about it?
[03:26] <sammyF_> Beyond_The_Grave: ASF is really a self_censored_word of a format :(
[03:27] <Bikerbob> hello, I am looking for some PPC bootstrap help? anyone? channel?
[03:27] <taxman> blackalex: yeah, did grub and creating a folder have anything to do with each other, or were those two different thoughts?
[03:27] <blackalex> NumBeast, yeah i know that much; im just mounting my installation in livecd
[03:27] <Thomsen> malocite: I guess. And/or perhaps dri (can't remember what it does)
[03:27] <sammyF_> Beyond_The_Grave: I didn't find one so far. is it just music or video too?
[03:27] <nRkiSt_> I have a long question... what was the addy of the site I'm supposed to post it to please?
[03:27] <albert`> does anyone know how to get Ubuntu's Gparted to redistribute partition space?
[03:27] <Amon-san> is there a way to install sunbird in feisty via apt/synaptic?
[03:27] <taxman> nRkiSt_: see the channel topic
[03:27] <blackalex> so i can use the grub via chroot (using forum)
[03:27] <blackalex> im going to see what a re-installation of grub does
[03:28] <NumBeast> blackalex good luck
[03:28] <taxman> albert`: you can resize some partitions, that would do it
[03:28] <albert`> taxman: Ubuntu won't let me resize anything
[03:28] <hexstar> are each days chat session recorded somewhere on line?
[03:28] <malocite> thomsen: I found these instructions here : http://www.mepis.org/node/7567
[03:28] <taxman> albert`: well you can't resize mounted partitions. Try using the livecd
[03:28] <albert`> oh ok
[03:28] <albert`>  thanks
[03:29] <malocite> thomsen: it says you have to do it this way because of how the atitvout thing works
[03:29] <albert`> taxman: what if I unmounted them?
[03:29] <hexstar> ubuntulog: test
[03:29] <taxman> albert`: you can't really unmount /
[03:29] <hexstar> e.g. what is ubuntulog for?
[03:29] <albert`> taxman: thank you
[03:29] <albert`> taxman: I have 5 partitions
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: you cant unmount the active partition you are using
[03:29] <albert`> taxman: Would it be to safe to unmount my windows partitions
[03:29] <blackalex> crap;
[03:29] <nRkiSt_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31615/
[03:29] <Amon-san> is there a way to install sunbird in feisty via apt/synaptic?
[03:30] <taxman> albert`: yes, you can umount everything else. But seriously, get good backups first
[03:30] <d4rkmonkey> Amon-san, I don't believe so
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: Max is 4 primary partitions.. your swap is probably in an extended partition
[03:30] <blackalex> i cant figure out how to chroot into my ubuntu installation :(
[03:30] <Bikerbob> can anyone suggest a better channel for PPC help?
[03:30] <albert`> taxman: thanks
[03:30] <hexstar> please anyone knowm my answer?
[03:30] <hexstar> where are the ops
[03:30] <hexstar> ?
[03:30] <hexstar> !ops
[03:30] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:30] <Amon-san> d4rkmonkey: okay, thanks anyways
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > hexstar
[03:30] <albert`> jack_sparrow: My problem is the unallocated space between C and E drive can be used to create a new partition. But anything between Ubuntu and XP cannot be created
[03:30] <jt3k> !ttop10
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttop10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <jt3k> )
[03:31] <d4rkmonkey> Amon-san, its not that hard to compile though
[03:31] <Thomsen> malocite: Sorry I don't know more about this. Using nvidia myself :-)
[03:31] <hexstar> !top10
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <Amon-san> i'm a total ubuntu newb
[03:31] <malocite> send me your card
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: Max primary partitions is 4
[03:31] <malocite> thomsen: I am so sick of this
[03:31] <hexstar> I made a hack that allows 100 primary partitions
[03:31] <taxman> blackalex: chroot isn't really a beginner thing. Tell us what you have tried and what isn't working with grub
[03:31] <albert`> jack_sparrow: Thanks, can extended partitions be used for OS such as Vista?
[03:31] <jt3k> 66 2 *!*@*
[03:31] <hexstar> albert: yes
[03:31] <hexstar> jt3k: what?
[03:32] <Amon-san> i would not want any software on my system unless i can control if it's there, ecxept via packet manager
[03:32] <albert`> hextar: Thanks guys. I trust you guys, gonna go backup, then do my extended. bye
[03:32] <nRkiSt_> I have a question at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31615/
[03:32] <hexstar> lol...everyone calls me hextar
[03:32] <jt3k> bye bye to all
[03:32] <jt3k> )
[03:32] <blackalex> can someone please spend some time with my grub "error 17" issue; raid 3114 (fakeraid installed through alternate cd already); ?
[03:32] <hexstar> jt3k: i9520sod
[03:32] <Amaranth> hexstar: Do not call !ops to get random questions answered
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> albert`: Vista people may be able to help with that.. and o there isnt a hack for 100 orimary partitions
[03:32] <Eugene12> !top10
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <jt3k>  what?
[03:33] <hexstar> Amaranth: well, what is ubunulog for? does it save these chats somewhere online?
[03:33] <Amaranth> hexstar: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[03:33] <hexstar> aha cool
[03:34] <blackalex> anyone? :( three days and ive gone from a error 18 to an error 17
[03:34] <taxman> nRkiSt_: well your cable modem isn't offering an ip address to your computer by dhcp I'd assume. You need to configure the ip address of the cable modem with the default gateway address, nameservers, etc that your ISP gave you at initial setup
[03:34] <blackalex> dont know if thats an improvement or not
[03:34] <taxman> nRkiSt_: and sorry, I don't know how to do that, just that that's most likely what you need to do
[03:35] <Amaranth> blackalex: afaik your / partition cannot be on fakeraid
[03:35] <blackalex> ?
[03:35] <Amaranth> blackalex: grub error 17 means grub can't read the partition you told it to mount
[03:36] <blackalex> well i did it automatically because im new to linux
[03:36] <Civik> Anyone help me with getting my 4 way scroll to work when i click the scroll button?
[03:36] <blackalex> using the alternate install cd
[03:36] <Safrole> so I'm trying to run a debian file and I got the following error "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6" However, I have that package installed.
[03:36] <Safrole> Anyone have any idea what is going on here?
[03:36] <myself_> Safrole: did you try sudo ldconfig?
[03:36] <Amaranth> Safrole: you've got a package for debian sid, not ubuntu 7.04
[03:36] <fragalot> hi, i'm trying to set up a friends bootloader (lilo) again after he installed windows aswell, but i can't get the lillo.conf properl done. -> FATAL: trying to map files from unnamed device..... (NFS/RAID mirror down?)
[03:36] <fragalot> any suggestions? i'll nopaste the lilo.conf, hold on
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Safrole: Could have the wrong version installed
[03:37] <nRkiSt_> taxman the cable modem offers dhcp.  when I plug the net cable into the computer with the computer power OFF, and the modem powered ON, there is no acitvity light blinking on the modem, which it does all the time when the computer is OFF and networked thru the router
[03:37] <Safrole> this is a .deb file for pidgin-encryption
[03:37] <boyam> !ops
[03:37] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:37] <taxman> nRkiSt_: you may need a crossover cable to connect the cable modem directly to your computer
[03:37] <wastrel> hi welcome to ubuntu
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> boyam: What did you need
[03:38] <myself_> fragalot: why are you using lilo? use grub...
[03:38] <taxman> nRkiSt_: do you have the cable modem manual?
[03:38] <boyam> looked like a flood frm koaguin
[03:38] <St3a1tH> hey guys , which package  contains that tryicon to network manager in gnome ?
[03:38] <fragalot> http://rafb.net/p/aV1xMS19.html <--
[03:38] <nRkiSt_> taxman never heard of a cat 5 crossover, but i'll look thanks
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> nRkiSt_: Very common cable, they also make adapters
[03:39] <St3a1tH> i do not see the trayicon anymore
[03:39] <hexstar> wow what does fabbione do for a living Amaranth?
[03:39] <techII> St3a1tH: network-manager-gnome, i think
[03:39] <Amaranth> hexstar: work on ubuntu
[03:39] <taxman> Jack_Sparrow: though the cable's usually cheaper unless you get lucky
[03:39] <nRkiSt_> ok guys i'll see if i have the original modem cable
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> taxman: I make my own...  Later friends.. play nice
[03:40] <St3a1tH> techII it is installe
[03:40] <hexstar> Amaranth: heh cool..quite a neat collection of networking equipment
[03:40] <St3a1tH> but no icon
[03:40] <St3a1tH> :
[03:40] <St3a1tH> :/
[03:40] <techII> no idea then
[03:40] <myself_> fragalot: do you get that when you try to boot, or when lilo runs...
[03:40] <jday> ?
[03:41] <myself_> fragalot: try sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and see if your windows partition shows up
[03:41] <hexstar> !info cfdisk
[03:41] <ubotu> Package cfdisk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:41] <wastrel> St3a1tH:  is your notification area still in the panel?
[03:41] <St3a1tH> yep
[03:42] <hexstar> pdisk > cfdisk
[03:43] <techII> is there any easy (already written) way to replace all 64 bit binaries on a machine with 32 bit ones?
[03:43] <wastrel> St3a1tH:  what happens if you try to run it from the command line?
[03:43] <nadis> so many people ...~~
[03:43] <St3a1tH> nothing , i tried nm-applet , it starts , but i get no icon
[03:43] <Stormx2> Hi, is there a nice way to compare two binary files?
[03:43] <techII> may be a configuration issue
[03:44] <myself_> Stormx2: try cmp
[03:44] <hexstar> Stormx2: diff
[03:44] <Stormx2> hexstar: Diff just says "two binary files differ"
[03:44] <St3a1tH> damn , today i just update wpasupplicant , and broke a lot of my system
[03:44] <myself_> Stormx2: what do you expect it to say?
[03:44] <hexstar> Stormx: that means they're different
[03:44] <hexstar> !man cmp
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man cmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <Stormx2> myself_: uhg. Well, I need to edit a binary file by-hand
[03:45] <myself_> Stormx2: try hexdump
[03:45] <hexstar> Stormx2: why? you'll have to do that in a hex editor or a assembly decompiler
[03:45] <petafile> How can you enable xdmcp remotely (over ssh)  I wanto set up VNC from 100 miles away :)
[03:46] <hexstar> petafile: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
[03:46] <wastrel> Stormx2:  there's a vi-like hex editor that i'm grooving on lately callec
[03:46] <petafile> hexstar: thanks
[03:46] <wastrel> called, hexer
[03:46] <Stormx2> Cool
[03:46] <hexstar> petafile: np :)
[03:46] <myself_> Stormx2: try for x in "fila" "fileb"; do hexdump $x > $x.hex; done && diff filea.hex fileb.hex
[03:46] <Stormx2> Any other hex editors? ;)
[03:46] <hexstar> isn't there a linux decompiler called dcc or something?
[03:47] <myself_> Stormx2: hexdump isn't a hex editor
[03:47] <hexstar> Stormx2: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
[03:47] <hexstar> oops
[03:47] <hexstar> I meant http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+hex+editor&btnG=Google+Search
[03:47] <myself_> Stormx2: search freshmeat.net for hex editor
[03:47] <Stormx2> Okay, cool.
[03:47] <Stormx2> Thanks
[03:47] <coastermaster> my ubuntu installation hangs at a black screen when I try to suspend my laptop, is there a way I can see a log or something to know what's wrong?
[03:47] <Stormx2> I've been set a challenge :)
[03:48] <techII> "aptitude install hexedit"
[03:48] <myself_> techII: aptitude?
[03:48] <myself_> !info aptitude
[03:48] <ubotu> aptitude: terminal-based apt frontend. In component main, is important. Version 0.4.4-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1428 kB, installed size 8556 kB
[03:48] <blackalex> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[03:48] <blackalex> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[03:49] <blackalex> could someone please explain this so i can fix my grub?
[03:49] <hexstar> !apt-get
[03:49] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:49] <myself_> blackalex: sudo mount -l | grep /boot
[03:50] <meme20> myself_: you don't need sudo for that
[03:50] <hexstar> df -h | grep /boot would also work
[03:50] <blackalex> and what does that do?
[03:50] <hexstar> !calculate 1/0
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calculate 1/0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <taxman> blackalex: from what I heard, you only have a RAID device?
[03:51] <hexstar> blackalex: it detemrines where /boot is
[03:51] <wastrel> use wcalc
[03:51] <hexstar> paste the output of df -h | grep /boot here
[03:51] <andyho623> how's it going tonight? :)
[03:51] <Nutubuntu> I am looking for a keyboard macro or abbreviation-expander package for Feisty, similar to the WIndows FOSS program AutoHotKey. Has anyone run across one?
[03:51] <hexstar> !macro
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <cdr> #ubuntu-es
[03:52] <blackalex> and i guess is grep /boot doesnt find /boot i have an issue then?
[03:52] <blackalex> its loading atm
[03:52] <hexstar> Nutubuntu: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5594
[03:52] <Nutubuntu> hexstar,  t/y
[03:52] <hexstar> Nutubuntu: np :)
[03:52] <hexstar> blackalex: what's loading?
[03:52] <blackalex> i ran grep /boot
[03:53] <blackalex> and it seems to be waiting / searching
[03:53] <hexstar> blackalex: did you get anything back?
[03:53] <obf213> how do i get a trashcan to beon my desktop?
[03:53] <hexstar> oh...
[03:53] <bruenig> grep /boot doesn't do anything
[03:53] <bruenig> it will just pause
[03:53] <hexstar> black alex...do a ctrl+c to stop that action. You have to type the whole command together (without quotes) "df -h | grep /boot"
[03:53] <bruenig> and wait for real input
[03:54] <blackalex> oh no that doesnt print out anything
[03:54] <wastrel> !icons | obf213
[03:54] <ubotu> obf213: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[03:54] <hexstar> blackalex, that command I just told you to do returns nothing?
[03:54] <blackalex> yeah
[03:54] <bruenig> df -h only wokrs on partitions
[03:54] <wastrel> mounted
[03:54] <hexstar> oh
[03:55] <bruenig> du -h /boot
[03:55] <qazwsx> what is a good movie player to use on ubuntu desktio feisty fawn?
[03:55] <jport> vlc
[03:55] <PF|WSTP> mplayer is good too
[03:55] <obf213> wastrel thanks a lot
[03:55] <blackalex> ok it found a /boot/grub folder
[03:55] <hexstar> qazwsx: windows media player
[03:55] <andyho623> vlc plays just about anything
[03:55] <bruenig> they all are pretty much equal in format support, so just pick your favorite
[03:55] <techII> i usually use vlc
[03:55] <PF|WSTP> Im trying to install psyBNC, but it says I need ncurses. I did an apt-cache search but there's a lot of choices. Could someone point me to what I need to install?
[03:55] <techII> it isn't the most userfriendly though
[03:56] <Nutubuntu> hexstar,  that was an interesting article and probably I'll find many uses for m4. I am really looking for something that will trap key sequences (for example, " str ") and expand them on the fly into (for example) "my input string is pushed into a keyboard buffer somehow and then dumped into whatever I'm writing in gedit now."
[03:56] <bruenig> vlc plays stuff that mplayer plays
[03:56] <MongooseWA> you can view stuff with divx codecs in ubuntu, right?
[03:56] <techII> yes
[03:56] <jport> yup
[03:56] <rockets> cupsd is opening port 631, is there a way to stop that
[03:56] <techII> given that you have the codecs
[03:56] <bruenig> rockets, don't run it?
[03:56] <blackalex> so what do i do?
[03:56] <r00723r0> how do i get what version of a program is installed
[03:56] <andyho623> for some reason I can't get my firefox and thunderbird to open now that I'm using kubuntu instad of ubuntu?!?
[03:56] <hexstar> rockets: killall cupsd
[03:56] <rockets> bruenig, i need to be able to print . . . all 631 is, is the web interface
[03:57] <rockets> hexstar, ... i dont want to stop cups
[03:57] <Stormx2> Okay.
[03:57] <hexstar> rockets: oh
[03:57] <r00723r0> how do i get what version of a program is installed
[03:57] <n2diy> Nutubuntu: have you looked at " loadkeys" ?
[03:57] <rockets> i want to get rid of the web interface
[03:57] <Stormx2> I downloaded a few hex editors and i'ma try em out. :)
[03:57] <PF|WSTP> Im trying to install psyBNC, but it says I need ncurses. I did an apt-cache search but there's a lot of choices. Could someone point me to what I need to install?
[03:57] <techII> rockets: on loopback (localhost) or the network?
[03:57] <hexstar> rockets: then reverse these steps: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/
[03:57] <bruenig> rockets, why exactly? it isn't a security concern
[03:57] <hexstar> techll: haha, itching to make a ipfw rule? :D
[03:57] <Stormx2> PF|WSTP: Something like ncurses-dev?
[03:57] <rockets> i dont want any ports open that dont need to be. ill NEVER use the web interface
[03:58] <PF|WSTP> Stormx2: I'll try it
[03:58] <rockets> it provides me no benifit other then a possible vulnerability
[03:58] <Nutubuntu> rockets - https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/cups.html
[03:58] <rockets> thanks
[03:58] <Nutubuntu> n2diy,  no, I'll look for it now, t/y :)
[03:58] <PF|WSTP> thanks Stormx2
[03:58] <dug__> what's the keyboard shutcut to lock the screen? (go to screensaver) or is there one?
[03:59] <n2diy> Nutubuntu: check the man page, I don't know if there is any other docs on it?
[03:59] <hexstar> rockets: you could do ipfw add deny tcp from any to any portnumber in
[03:59] <meme20> Nutubuntu: how does that help rockets ?
[03:59] <rockets> ah nevermind it listens on loopback only
[03:59] <rockets> so it doesnt matter
[03:59] <meme20> Nutubuntu: it doesn't actually say anywhere in there how to turn off the web interface.
[03:59] <bruenig> rockets, it appears to only work on loopback
[03:59] <rockets> yup.
[03:59] <rockets> still dont need it. but its fine.
[03:59] <marc_> Whats the best way to back up Data on a LVM ?
[03:59] <hexstar> marc_: cp?
[03:59] <bruenig> rockets, oh by the way it looks like /etc/cups/cupsd.conf will do it
[03:59] <kitche> hexstar: are you telling him BSD firewall commands in a linux channel? lol
[04:00] <hexstar> kitche: lol oops
[04:00] <marc_> hexstar:  Fault Tolerance, I should say?
[04:00] <hexstar> marc_: oh
[04:00] <blackalex> ok.  i really havent a clue what to do.  still the same thing.  havent got much help yet.  please help me with my grub setup; i liked the help i gotten so far but again, im kinda NeW to this so ...
[04:00] <hexstar> kitche: which firewall does ubuntu use?
[04:00] <noccy> hm. mbmon gives me "Floating point exception (core dumped)" when i try to run it. has anyone got a clue about what might be up with that? :S
[04:00] <kitche> hexstar: same as other linux's iptables
[04:00] <techII> iptables
[04:01] <hexstar> kitche: ah
[04:01] <dug__> what's the keyboard shutcut to lock the screen? (go to screensaver) or is there one?
[04:01] <zerokill88> I am installing ubuntu on another computer of mine. if there is lack of ram, will that cause the livecd to lag?
[04:01] <bruenig> zerokill88, yes
[04:01] <wastrel> dug__:  ctrl-alt-l
[04:01] <zerokill88> bruenig ok, but once its installed it shouldnt lag, well at least not as much
[04:01] <Count1> uhh, hi, im a current fedora user wanted to switch to ubuntu, any reason i shouldn't?
[04:01] <n2diy> zerokill88: absolutly, the live CD lives in ram.
[04:01] <hexstar> fudge and I thought I was actually learning the linux firewall with ipfw :P
[04:01] <dug__> thankyou
[04:01] <bruenig> zerokill88, true
[04:01] <zerokill88> n2diy i was thinking that was the case
[04:02] <bruenig> Count1, any reason you should?
[04:02] <Count1> bruenig: i cant get anything to work in fedora...
[04:02] <taxman> Count1: if it works perfectly and you don't want to figure out anything new, then don't :)
[04:02] <bruenig> Count1, like?
[04:02] <hexstar> ah well...ubuntu shall be on my mac mini soon enough (c'mon bank transfer..go!!)
[04:02] <aum_> hi - are there any decent non-linear video editors for ubuntu?
[04:02] <hexstar> non linear?
[04:03] <meme20> aum_: cinelerra is okay
[04:03] <meme20> aum_: they all suck though
[04:03] <Count1> bruenig: my webcam, plus fedora locks up on shutdown/restart, requiring a manual restart
[04:03] <aum_> hexstar: it's a video term
[04:03] <taxman> aum_: depends on your definition of decent, but there is a list on Wikipedia somewhere of non line linux vid editors
[04:03] <hexstar> aum_: gee thanks :P
[04:03] <techII> aum_: kino is the only one I can think of right now
[04:03] <hexstar> !non-linear
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about non-linear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <aum_> kino sucks, you can't even cross-fade between clips
[04:03] <Nutubuntu> meme20,  maybe I misunderstood rockets issue - thought this appeared to be to the point "By default on Ubuntu, the CUPS server installation listens only on the loopback interface at IP address <IP_ADDRESS>. In order to instruct the CUPS server to listen on an actual network adapter's IP address, you must specify either a hostname, the IP address, or optionally, an IP address/port pairing via the addition of a Listen directive."
[04:04] <hexstar> Nutubuntu: it's now a non issue because he discovered it's only listening on loopback
[04:04] <bruenig> Count1, webcam support will be equal on both distros, the shutdown restart thing should be easily fixable at least it would be on a bsd init system, sysv init still baffles me, those problems are fixable though
[04:04] <aum_> kino is just a dumb cut'n'paste app
[04:04] <meme20> Nutubuntu: well, tangentially, i was wondering how to disable the stupid web interface as well... so that doesn't really help.
[04:04] <meme20> aum_: cinelerra looks horrid, but does more than kino
[04:04] <bruenig> Count1, it is probably a poorly written daemon, that would be my first guess
[04:04] <Civik> Anyone help me with getting my 4 way scroll to work when i click the scroll button? i just awnt up and down to work so when i click the button and move the mouse up or down it scrolls
[04:04] <techII> i've never done video editing under linux
[04:05] <aum_> doesn't matter if it looks weird, as long as it can do stuff
[04:05] <meme20> aum_: i've gotten cs2 premiere pro to work with a windows partition having an installed version, but installing cs2 premiere pro was a no go for me
[04:05] <hexstar> guys to disable the cups web interface just reverse these steps: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/
[04:05] <hexstar> !!
[04:05] <Count1> bruenig: well, i kinda want to stick to one distro, and im kinda not liking fedora all too much, just wanted to find one, with good support thats fast growing, and a community that helps you
[04:05] <hexstar> heh, we need mac on linux intel edition and windows on linux
[04:05] <hexstar> possibly
[04:06] <meme20> hexstar: i want cups to run and no web interface. period. that link in reverse means no cups
[04:06] <noccy> no solutions to my mbmon problems? :(
[04:06] <aum_> i tried kdenlive, looked good but it's very unstable, and full of moronic limitations
[04:06] <vas> hey whats the terminal command to list users n stuff like that
[04:06] <vas> lcoal users
[04:06] <vas> n to add local users'
[04:06] <taxman> aum_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software has the list I was thinking of
[04:06] <meme20> vas: getent passwd and adduser
[04:06] <vas> thnx
[04:06] <blackalex> ok; ok; is ubuntu really worh the effort? i have a buddy on the net that says that ubuntu is recommended for new users and has good help for setting it up on my computer.  bleh.  im no longer convinced.
[04:06] <hexstar> meme20: wow that sucks...didn't notice that, almost seems like there is no enable/disable facility for the web interface
[04:06] <bruenig> Count1, the fedora error is fixable, whether you wish to go through the necessary documentation to understand how to fix it is up to you I guess. These mega distros seem to hide a lot of the underlying stuff which makes it hard to fix something as easy as your shutdown restart setup, so you can hop around until one gets it right I guess
[04:06] <petafile> I'm trying to log into my router remotely using lynx on an ssh'd box behind it.  It tells me unexpected network read error any thoughts?  Its a netgear wireless router
[04:06] <wastrel> ls /home
[04:06] <blackalex> taking three days to install an operating system
[04:06] <zerokill88> hexstar what you buying you mac mini for?
[04:07] <hexstar> blackalex: what effort? ubuntu is supposed to just work :P
[04:07] <meme20> hexstar: yeah. i don't really like using GUIs either, so go figure
[04:07] <blackalex> yeah tahts what i thought
[04:07] <noccy> hexstar: supposed to? it does just that :D
[04:07] <blackalex> i dont know if its the ubuntu itself
[04:07] <godofredo> blackalex, i was afk what is your issue?
[04:07] <blackalex> or grub
[04:07] <taxman> blackalex: you have an unusual setup. It's not perfect, but patience will be rewarded :)
[04:07] <hexstar> zerokill88: I'm replacing the mac mini and will be replacing os x with ubuntu on the mac mini
[04:07] <||drake||> alright
[04:07] <bruenig> ubuntu is a good starter distro, all linux distros with the exception of gentoo should install in less than an hour or so depending on specs
[04:07] <aum_> taxman, thx
[04:07] <hexstar> will be buying a macbook or if I can find a good deal on ebay, a macbook pro (will only go for new in box)
[04:07] <||drake||> where do i go for wireless configuration help?
[04:07] <zerokill88> hexstar ah i see.do you know if there is any os x emulater?
[04:08] <blackalex> yeah; i have a raid 3114 setup with vista as the original primary; i wanted to eventually to migrate to linux by starting out on a debian os
[04:08] <blackalex> ubuntu
[04:08] <hexstar> zerokill88: pearpc
[04:08] <nRkiSt_> taxman FYI a crossover cable is NOT the problem
[04:08] <zerokill88> bruenig a good starter? its the best
[04:08] <meme20> bruenig: that's FUD. gentoo doesn't take more than 30 minutes on a relatively modern computer with everything mandatory the guide states
[04:08] <choudesh> hey all...guick poll. What does everyone use for Music Management in Ubuntu or Linux in general? I don't like Amarok and Songbird is slow running on XUL.
[04:08] <||drake||> exaile
[04:08] <||drake||> :)
[04:08] <blackalex> but... i have first gotten a grub startup error number 18, did some tweaking in partitions
[04:08] <madman91> hey guys
[04:08] <meme20> choudesh: mplayer and a .pls file
[04:08] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[04:08] <blackalex> now im getting error 17
[04:08] <zerokill88> hexstar ya ive seen that.seemed a little to much to install
[04:08] <hexstar> bruenig: what do you mean by starter distro? does ubuntu get that because it requires very little user intervention to install and get working out of box?
[04:08] <bruenig> zerokill88, not so much
[04:08] <madman91> choudesh: i use amarok.. its not slow for me
[04:08] <godofredo> choudesh, rhythmbox
[04:08] <blackalex> and these numbers arent meaning a whole lot to me
[04:08] <Count1> bruenig: i would really like to switch to linux, but there are the small problems that get on my nerves, i really hate microsoft, but all of my work stuff is only on windows, and almost all games only run on windows, so its kinda hard
[04:08] <bruenig> hexstar, starter as in new to linux
[04:08] <||drake||> hey: where do i go for wireless help?
[04:09] <godofredo> Count1, what games?
[04:09] <bruenig> hexstar, if you are starting out with linux if you will
[04:09] <madman91> can someone help me setup an ad-hoc wireless connection to my webcam?
[04:09] <Count1> bruenig: if theres on thing that ive learned about this whole jouney of trying out linux, its that i really need to question my own motives
[04:09] <choudesh> madman91, wasn't saying that Amarok is slow, I just don't like it. Songbird on the other hand is slow because it runs ontop of a XUL
[04:09] <godofredo> Count1, dual boot
[04:09] <zerokill88> bruenig at least for me... ive tried bout 5 6 different distros and the ones that come with my linux cd,and ubuntu is the only one to work fine and dandy with my laptop. completely supports ipw3945
[04:09] <madman91> choudesh: i dislike songbird.. too chunky
[04:09] <choudesh> godofredo, hmm, I will try out rhythmbox. thanks for the suggestion
[04:09] <madman91> choudesh: i find the internet part of songbird fairly useless, to me anyways
[04:09] <meme20> choudesh: what do you need that amarok provides out of curiosity?
[04:09] <godofredo> choudesh, np
[04:09] <rilma> /exit
[04:09] <hexstar> meh I plan to use ubuntu as a server administration test bed :D
[04:09] <bruenig> meme20, it isn't FUD, it depends on how you install it certainly, it will come with a mostly binary base if you want it to, but come on, who wants to do that. If I am going gentoo, I am going full on compiling it all
[04:10] <choudesh> meme20, Smart Playlists for one.
[04:10] <wastrel> server administration?
[04:10] <bruenig> zerokill88, I have ipw3945 and it works on every distro
[04:10] <bruenig> zerokill88, it is working on arch linux as we speak
[04:10] <Eugene12> Hi guys, can I ask someone for a help with suspend/resume on laptop?
[04:10] <zerokill88> bruenig out of the box?
[04:10] <hexstar> wastrel: yeah, to practice my hand at configuring from scratch the various servers like apache and proftpd
[04:10] <meme20> choudesh: i'm not too familiar with that term... meaning based on how many times you've played a song, it gets bumped up or something similar?
[04:10] <bruenig> zerokill88, pacman -S ipw3945, done
[04:10] <blackalex> i guess hoping for someone to PM me is too much to ask for for 1 on 1 help...
[04:10] <hexstar> compile, then configure using ONLY the text config files
[04:10] <madman91> how do i create an ad-hoc wifi connection to a webcam.. what does that mean?
[04:10] <Count1> godofredo: lots, like ive only gotten 3 of the ones i tried to work on linus, and i cant turnt he setting up at all, i have to keep them relatively low
[04:10] <blackalex> donnu if i joined the right channel
[04:10] <bruenig> zerokill88, nothing works out of the box in arch by design
[04:10] <zerokill88> bruenig wow really. with every dirsto?
[04:10] <meme20> bruenig: ah, a fellow arch user :)
[04:11] <madman91> blackalex: i think the same many times
[04:11] <zerokill88> bruenig i just remember hwo hard it was before ubuntu supported ipw3945
[04:11] <godofredo> Count1, i would dual boot, xp for gaming, linux for everything else
[04:11] <blackalex> madman91, at least someone is in my boat
[04:11] <hexstar> bruenig: as in you hve to manually install the packages after install?
[04:11] <hexstar> with arch linux?
[04:11] <blackalex> i just need a good irc chat
[04:11] <choudesh> meme20, no, depending on various criteria... if it is in this genre, before this year...and so on. Think of it as a REGEX for songs
[04:11] <blackalex> i have a gut feeling ubuntu is fine
[04:11] <kitche> zerokill88: you just have to get the firmware pretty much since most kernels now a days in distros support almost all intel stuff that is out
[04:11] <meme20> choudesh: ah, i see
[04:12] <blackalex> just i need 1 on 1 help for installing grub on my raid so that it works
[04:12] <madman91> blackalex: i've learned to be google-sufficient and i have tried other channels.. like #lfd for instance.. but that room on the other hand isnt too packed
[04:12] <Count1> godofredo: well, im trying to think of what the everything else is, i mean, i cant get my webcam to work under linux, and that would be for chatting online with friends, i consider that my everything else...
[04:12] <bruenig> hexstar, right, it is like old school debian was (or still is?).  Grub will not boot from RAID 1
[04:12] <zerokill88> kitche thats the thing, different dirstos use different stuff
[04:12] <godofredo> Count1, you can use your webcam in msn
[04:12] <bobsomebody> hey you, stop slowing down the internet!
[04:12] <choudesh> blackalex, software RAID 1 that is.
[04:12] <godofredo> Count1, and other programs
[04:12] <blackalex> i have a theory but i dont know how to do it
[04:12] <kitche> zerokill88: well you still need to get the firmware on ubuntu but they just make it easier :)
[04:12] <Count1> godofredo: on windows...
[04:12] <choudesh> blackalex, software raid or hardware?
[04:12] <blackalex> cant i like install the boot partition to only ONE harddrive?
[04:13] <blackalex> its a silicon software raid
[04:13] <godofredo> Count1, on linux
[04:13] <madman91> what is an ad-hoc network mode
[04:13] <zerokill88> kitche what do you mean. i just type in my essid and pass and im connected
[04:13] <bruenig> zerokill88, oh see arch autoconnects at boot
[04:13] <hexstar> bruenig: sounds like fun
[04:13] <techII> madman91: its where the computers connect to each other, and not through an access point
[04:13] <choudesh> blackalex, ooo have fun. ;-) The best thing I can say is with using a software raid and it having the boot partition is to place grub on both hds
[04:13] <Count1> godofredo: what are you talking about, linux doesnt support my webcam
[04:14] <kitche> zerokill88: the firmware from what I know is part of the driver package that ubuntu and other distros provide others you have to go out and get the firmware yourself
[04:14] <madman91> techII: can it be done through lan --> wireless
[04:14] <Eugene12> Hi guys, can I ask someone for a help with suspend/resume on laptop?
[04:14] <blackalex> choudesh, i used the alternate cd and read the logs
[04:14] <techII> i don't know anything about configuring wireless cards
[04:14] <godofredo> Count1, you can use Gyachi for yahoo webcam and aMSN for msn webcam.....oh i  thought you just meant the OS barrier....
[04:14] <blackalex> and supposably it set things up for me
[04:14] <zerokill88> kitche ah i see what you mean.ya it does make it easier :)
[04:14] <|thunder> look in /etc/network/interface
[04:14] <madman91> Eugene12: ask away.. dont ask to ask.. not too many people available to ask your problem
[04:14] <||drake||> anyone willing to help me setup the intel 3945 wireless card?
[04:14] <choudesh> blackalex, I understand. But grub itself cannot boot from a software raid. Well, not easily for that matter.
[04:14] <blackalex> but i got the error 17 on startup into grub and i dont know how to edit the lst file or anything to see if everything is setup right
[04:14] <andyho623> can someone tell me why I would get $ Segmentation fault (core dumped) when i try to run thunderbird or firefox
[04:15] <bruenig> ||drake||, ask zerokill
[04:15] <hexstar> I hate how people call distros that install everything out of box noob distros...it's just easier :P
[04:15] <vladuz976> hi, i need to purchase a font online. what is the best font format to use under linux? or the easiest. there are different options of true type fonts
[04:15] <locke> Excuse me, but what is the command to echo what kernel i am currently running?
[04:15] <techII> the intergrated wireless on this laptop doesn't have linux drivers yet
[04:15] <Count1> godofredo: no its pretty much doesnt support it at all, i mean, ive heard of people getting it to work online, but im not experience enough of a linux user to do it right, and believe me iver been trying all week
[04:15] <||drake||> zerokill88, you willing to help me setup the intel 3945 wireless card?
[04:15] <madman91> techII: is that to me?
[04:15] <Eugene12> I have a problem with suspend - after resume wireless card is down and I can't restart it. Any ideas?
[04:15] <n2diy> locke: uname  -a
[04:15] <rapid_> ?? wma
[04:15] <hexstar> locke: uname -v
[04:15] <bruenig> hexstar, it depends on what you want, if you want a customized light distro that isn't loading everything needed or unneeded at boot, then those distros get annoying
[04:15] <techII> sort of
[04:15] <choudesh> blackalex, you should just make a 10M partition on the booting HD and make the software raid on the rest of the HD and duplicate it on the other. That way, grub will be booting from the HD instead of the SRAID
[04:16] <litlebuda> locke, uname
[04:16] <locke> thank you
[04:16] <hexstar> bruenig: true
[04:16] <zerokill88> ||drake|| possibly
[04:16] <zerokill88> ||drake|| are you using ubuntu?
[04:16] <locke> ||drake||: which version of ubuntu are you running, my intel 3945 wireless card worked out of box with ubuntu feisty and ubuntu dapper
[04:16] <techII> madman91: i think some sort of bridge (using something like a modified wrt54g) could work, don't ask me about configuring it though
[04:16] <||drake||> zerokill88, i'm running a fresh install of feisty
[04:16] <madman91> techII: alright.. thanks
[04:16] <choudesh> blackalex, The easist way to read the logs is to use the UbunutuLive CD and mount your HD then look in /var/logs
[04:17] <DavidCraft> in their a command line group editor?
[04:17] <bruenig> ||drake||, do any interfaces show up when you do "iwconfig"
[04:17] <zerokill88> hexstar how do i call pearpc if i used apt-get to download.cant find it under applications and the command pearpc doesnt work
[04:17] <madman91> Eugene12: i am looking for the problem on the forums
[04:17] <||drake||> zerokill88, only mods ive done are involving piix so that i can boot
[04:17] <zerokill88> ||drake|| are you connected through a cable or wireless?
[04:17] <hexstar> zerokill88: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/
[04:17] <||drake||> zerokill88 right now im using my ethernet
[04:17] <bruenig> ||drake||, do any interfaces show up when you do "iwconfig"
[04:17] <devang> does ubuntu work better with NVIDA or ATI?
[04:18] <||drake||> zerokill88 iwconfig gives me lo and etho
[04:18] <Eugene12> madman91: Thanks!
[04:18] <||drake||> zerokill88 sorry, eth0
[04:18] <zerokill88> ||drake|| so your connected to the internet right now with ubuntu?
[04:18] <bruenig> devang, all of gnu/linux works better with nvidia I would say
[04:18] <||drake||> yea
[04:18] <||drake||> but ethernet
[04:18] <||drake||> obviously im on the internet
[04:18] <||drake||> thats how i'm here
[04:18] <godofredo> Count1, huh sorry...that's all i had :P
[04:18] <Count1> godofredo: i've heard of people using tinyXP or something like that, dual booting that with linux, whats that
[04:18] <madman91> Eugene12: there is not much to find.. but there are some links.. hold on
[04:18] <devang> bruenig: do you experience less problems with it too?
[04:18] <bruenig> ||drake||, do "sudo ifconfig eth1 up"
[04:18] <zerokill88> ||drake|| so im asuming you want to set it up wirelessly?
[04:18] <||drake||> yea
[04:18] <BlackAlex[headhu> /BlaX[headhurts]
[04:18] <bruenig> devang, it is a matter of drivers, nvidia has them and they are good, ati not so much
[04:19] <zerokill88> ||drake|| yuo havent givin me any specific problem yet
[04:19] <hexstar> does ifconfig eth* up work?
[04:19] <devang> bruenig: ah okay thanks
[04:19] <zerokill88> ||drake|| ok
[04:19] <madman91> Eugene12: could this help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1277079
[04:19] <bruenig> hexstar, I don't think it supports wildcard characters
[04:19] <hexstar> bruenig: oh
[04:19] <godofredo> Count1, not familiar with tinyxp but, dual-booting is simplist from the install disc with an existing windows partition.
[04:19] <Eugene12> madman91: I know - I looked already but couldn't find anything interesting
[04:19] <ComputinChuck> i'm having some trouble with fullscreen games on ubuntu, i have the nvidia drivers installed and the games run quite well, but every so often they will pop out of fullscreen for a while.  any idea why this might happen?
[04:19] <bruenig> ||drake||, does that work?
[04:19] <||drake||> zerokill88 all my problems are listed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3092966#post3092966
[04:19] <zerokill88> hexstar shouldnt it be eth1 by default?
[04:19] <zerokill88> ||darke|| ok 1 sec
[04:19] <locke> zerokill88: mine is eth1 by default, yea
[04:19] <hexstar> zerokill88: yeah, I was just wondering if one could do that to bring everything up at once
[04:19] <n2diy> hexstar: ifup ethX
[04:19] <||drake||> zerokill88 i've already done all of the stuff you're asking :)
[04:20] <madman91> Eugene12: did you see that link?
[04:20] <madman91> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1277079
[04:20] <Eugene12> madman91: Let me look...
[04:20] <Count1> godofredo: how would i get linux to read from the windows partition, because i have a NTFS with a lot of stuff on it i can only access from windows...
[04:20] <bruenig> ||drake||, did you run the ifconfig command I told you to
[04:20] <madman91> Count1: ntfs-config
[04:20] <madman91> Count1: its a package
[04:20] <zerokill88> hexstar oh ok
[04:20] <bruenig> !info ntfs-config
[04:20] <||drake||> zerokill88 yup
[04:20] <obf213> how do i delete a protected file from my trash
[04:20] <madman91> obf213: you could sudo rm it .. but be careful
[04:20] <locke> madman91: he doesn't need that package to just read from ntfs, only to write to it no? couldn't he just mount it?
[04:20] <hexstar> !info ntfs-config
[04:20] <godofredo> Count1, like madman91 said...g2g...good luck
[04:21] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[04:21] <andrubuntu> where is best to get ubuntu server IRC support?
[04:21] <zerokill88> ||darke|| hmmm, it should work out of the box.,let me check something
[04:21] <obf213> madman91 its an image
[04:21] <||drake||> zerokill88 it said: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[04:21] <||drake||> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:21] <hexstar> andrubuntu: here
[04:21] <Eugene12> madman91: yes, that's not related to my issue - I don't see wifi network card after resume
[04:21] <obf213> for some reason its protected, i delted it off my fat32 it just made that hidden folder
[04:21] <obf213> and im trying to get rid of that folder for good
[04:21] <bruenig> ||drake||, do "sudo modprobe ipw3945"
[04:21] <Eugene12> madman91: tried to reload all modules related to pcmcia - didn't help
[04:21] <madman91> locke: chances are he will probably want to write to them as well
[04:21] <madman91> locke: and that sets up reading and/or writing
[04:21] <||drake||> bruenig already done
[04:22] <||drake||> says it cant
[04:22] <madman91> Eugene12: hm.. i found something like that
[04:22] <||drake||> lemme get you the exact result
[04:22] <bruenig> ||drake||, modprobe fails?
[04:22] <BlackAlex[headhu> choudesh, ive been at this for so long i dont know what im doing anymore and how to do it or in what steps; im on a bit of information overload
[04:22] <zerokill88> ||darke|| do this....    sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[04:22] <bruenig> zerokill88, what are you talking about
[04:22] <bruenig> zerokill88, his interface isn't even up
[04:22] <zerokill88> bruenig i wana see if his wireless card is working
[04:22] <hexstar> lol
[04:22] <bruenig> zerokill88, that is what iwconfig is for...
[04:22] <zerokill88> bruenig doesnt hurt
[04:22] <hexstar> it *might* work if the cd is in the sources file
[04:22] <zerokill88> bruenig i know
[04:23] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, understanding....let me grab you a tutorial that will explain it a bit better.
[04:23] <n2diy> herding cats
[04:23] <||drake||> bruenig please just read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3092966
[04:23] <||drake||> thatll  catch you up
[04:23] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, what are you using again for a software raid?
[04:23] <bruenig> ||drake||, tell me what happens when you sudo modprobe ipw3945
[04:23] <hexstar> !raid
[04:23] <BlackAlex[headhu> ?
[04:23] <andrubuntu> Ok. So I'm confused.  Want to set up school computer network (dual boot Ubuntu / XP machines) with an Ubuntu fileserver to authenticate and host student files in their own home directories.  I'm seeing Samba, NFS, LDAP, AD...which of these do I actually need and where's the best tutorial on this configuration?
[04:23] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:23] <||drake||> bruenig the output is in the link i just sent you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3092966
[04:23] <BlackAlex[headhu> the built in software that came with my pc from abit
[04:23] <BlackAlex[headhu> raid 3114 software
[04:23] <||drake||> 2007-07-27 22:00:44: ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[04:24] <Eugene12> madman91: was it far? ;)
[04:24] <madman91> Eugene12: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/58247 maybe?
[04:24] <bruenig> ||drake||, that is what happens when you do the modprobe?
[04:24] <locke> If I am running kernel: 2.6.20-16-generic, then the wireless driver that I am running should also be within that folder right?
[04:24] <||drake||> yes
[04:24] <zerokill88> ||darke|| the problems you had were exactly the same as mine. the way i fixed it was someone had a script to install everything.let me see if i can find that
[04:24] <madman91> Eugene12: i had to go back through my google searches
[04:24] <hexstar> andrubuntu: to set samba as a domain controller for centralized account authentication: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3842/
[04:24] <||drake||> zerokill did you read that stuff about ieeeeeeeeeeeee?
[04:24] <Eugene12> madman91: thanks - let me see...
[04:24] <andrubuntu> Thanks hexstar I'll have a look!
[04:24] <||drake||> zerokill88 i feel i may have messed up my kernel while attempting things
[04:24] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15605.html
[04:24] <bruenig> man ubuntu needs better ipw3945 support
[04:25] <hexstar> andrubuntu: you're welcome :)
[04:25] <Joenin> sup?
[04:25] <madman91> Eugene12: thats the problem.. i dont know if that solution will work
[04:25] <bruenig> !find ipw3945
[04:25] <locke> bruenig: my ipw3945 worked out of box =x
[04:25] <ubotu> File ipw3945 found in linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:25] <hexstar> who needs to pay hundreds for windowz when samba can be a domain controller :D
[04:25] <madman91> Eugene12: read through all of those.. and if you make any changes, remember where you made them to fix them later
[04:25] <bruenig> ||drake||, do you have linux-restricted-modules-common installed?
[04:25] <Joenin> confidential
[04:25] <electric_d> Arg! Can anyone explain this? My Mac OS 10.4 laptop can get an address via DHCP from my cable modem, but my router and my fiesty box can't. (!!!)
[04:26] <locke> ||drake||: did you enable it in restricted-modules assuming you have it installed?
[04:26] <||drake||> bruenig i'll check... i have done literally nothing since installing feisty other than stuff involving piix to make it work on my sata drive
[04:26] <Eugene12> madman91: a lot of reading :) Thanks for pointing!
[04:26] <hexstar> electric_d: is the router and laptop connected directly to the modem? I assume if ys that means the modem has two ethernet ports?
[04:26] <locke> ||drake||:  System >> Administration >> Restricted Drivers Manager
[04:26] <madman91> Eugene12: it looks like the problem.. so you might pick up a bit of little solutions and patch them together
[04:26] <Count1> i have a question about LAN games on linux...
[04:26] <madman91> Eugene12: good luck
[04:26] <madman91> !ask > Count1
[04:26] <choudesh> are the repos slow tonight? (US, East Coast)
[04:26] <Count1> Would it be possible to LAN party with a cross of linux and windows
[04:26] <electric_d> hexstar: No, I have the router unplugged at the moment. Modem only has one ethernet port.
[04:26] <bruenig> ||drake||, good idea to try to get stuff done through package management before hauling off and compiling if you can
[04:26] <||drake||> locke: tried that: it says i dont have anything that needs it
[04:27] <ET_> Count1 yes
[04:27] <slipaway172> why just not be so cheap and use the stable and most secure operating system. By Symantec. WINDOWS
[04:27] <techII> Count1: if the games are the same
[04:27] <andrubuntu> Is there any headache (other than administrative) with having dual boot machines authenticating against the same Samba fileshares?  I know that ubuntu has issues writing to NTFS...does this apply to a fileserver?
[04:27] <techII> or use the same protocol
[04:27] <bruenig> ||drake||, just try to sudo apt-get install that package I mentioned above
[04:27] <hexstar> electric_d: so what is the usual network setup? Router plugged into modem and laptop and other devices connected through router?
[04:27] <||drake||> bruenig: already had it
[04:27] <madman91> this channel is waaaaaaaayyayyyyyyyyyy tooooo big and fast
[04:27] <locke> bruenig: feisty comes with it
[04:27] <Count1> i tried with Farcry and i was hosting the server and no one could see it...
[04:27] <electric_d> hexstar: yep
[04:27] <||drake||> bruenig: as i said, i just installed feisty
[04:27] <techII> madman91: yes
[04:27] <madman91> Count1: network issue.. not os issue
[04:27] <hexstar> electric_d: did your modem previously work?
[04:27] <madman91> techII: i miss the good old days.. 100 - 300 people tops
[04:27] <slipaway172> does anybody agree with me?
[04:27] <bruenig> ||drake||, so whose forum pst is that?
[04:27] <Count1> madman91: well, how would i fix it
[04:28] <electric_d> hexstar: yes, everything worked normally for months.
[04:28] <||drake||> bruenig: mine
[04:28] <Pelo> madman91,  you'll get the hang of it , just reply to stuff adress to you and ignore the rest
[04:28] <locke> If I am running kernel: 2.6.20-16-generic, then the wireless driver that I am running should also be within that folder right?
[04:28] <||drake||> bruenig: why?
[04:28] <hexstar> electric_d: well what did you do right before it stopped working?
[04:28] <bruenig> ||drake||, so then you did try to compile
[04:28] <madman91> Pelo: i know.. but just looking at this channel makes it depressing
[04:28] <electric_d> hexstar: lol, nothing.
[04:28] <madman91> Pelo: so many problems
[04:28] <electric_d> srsly
[04:28] <hexstar> electric_d: hmmmm...
[04:28] <madman91> Pelo: and no offense, most of them are noobish
[04:28] <madman91> Pelo: but we all start somewhere right :)
[04:28] <||drake||> bruenig: yes... everything i have done is listed on that forum post, nothing excluded
[04:28] <hexstar> electric_d: when you plug in the modem all its lights turn green?
[04:28] <envi0us> I ssh to my linux box a lot and my linux box's ip address frequently changes, so I was wondering if it is possible to add a hostname to the linux box without adding anything to my windows xp host file.
[04:29] <electric_d> hexstar: Everything about the modem seems normal.
[04:29] <andrubuntu> There ought to be variant channels, such as ubuntu server, ubuntu support, ubuntu intermediate support, etc.
[04:29] <hexstar> hmm...
[04:29] <techII> envi0us: /etc/hosts
[04:29] <litlebuda> madman91, no no  so many solutions :)
[04:29] <electric_d> #noobuntu
[04:29] <choudesh> envi0us, open a terminal and type `hostname` and `hostname whatever` to set it. Also use /etc/hosts.
[04:29] <CerebroJD> ^ lol
[04:29] <BSDaemon> envi0us: if the address changes then /etc/hosts won't help, you'd need a static IP
[04:29] <choudesh> !wireless | choudesh
[04:29] <choudesh> I miss the bots. ;-(
[04:30] <||drake||> !wireless
[04:30] <ys76> get yourself?
[04:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:30] <bruenig> ||drake||, right like I said though, best to try to go through package management when possible
[04:30] <choudesh> ||drake||, did they change permissions so only a few could use them?
[04:30] <||drake||> bruenig: i understand, but that doesnt help me now
[04:30] <hexstar> electric_d: well, did you ever reset the routers settings?
[04:30] <electric_d> hexstar: Yeah, tried that.
[04:30] <r00723r0> how do i get what version of a program is installed?
[04:30] <RoundyT1> anyone up for helping me make a quick python program?
[04:30] <||drake||> bruenig: plus, how was i supposed to know what packages to look for?
[04:31] <hexstar> electric_d: what I'm suspecting is that somehow the router wants to use a different mac address and the ISP doesn't like it
[04:31] <locke> choudesh: i believe it was just your syntax
[04:31] <||drake||> bruenig: all i wanted was a driver for something that was supposed to come standard
[04:31] <bruenig> ||drake||, this is a good place it appears, but this didn't actually install anything
[04:31] <choudesh> !wireless choudesh
[04:31] <locke> !wireless
[04:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:31] <choudesh> !wireless
[04:31] <n2diy> r00723r0: from the command line, or gui?
[04:31] <electric_d> hexstar: hmm, ok, i might be able to have the router spoof the MAC of the mac laptop
[04:31] <hexstar> electric_d: does the router in the web interface have the ability to change the mac address?
[04:31] <CerebroJD> electric_d, does your router have an option to change the mac address?
[04:31] <bruenig> ||drake||, your compilation didn't actually do anything but fail right?
[04:31] <BlackAlex[headhu> my aspirations for linux are going down... plunging... these howtos are losing me when i get permission denied, la la, "inavlid"... its starting to be too much
[04:31] <choudesh> Nope, it must hate me. ;-)
[04:31] <r00723r0> n2diy: command line
[04:31] <hexstar> electric_d: right, that's what I'd do
[04:31] <CerebroJD> electric_d, there ya go, ;)
[04:31] <electric_d> thanks, I'll give it a try.
[04:31] <||drake||> bruenig: correct... but im afraid i may have messed up my kernel
[04:32] <n2diy> r00723r0: try program-name -v
[04:32] <hexstar> electric_d: have the router spoof a mac address of one of the machines that can connect to the internet when directly connected to the modem
[04:32] <BlackAlex[headhu> choudesh thanks for trying to help but im ditching this just give me a sec till i get ubuntu installed
[04:32] <||drake||> bruenig: any idea on how to check that?
[04:32] <electric_d> right
[04:32] <r00723r0> n2diy: it's a driver
[04:32] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, sure.
[04:32] <bruenig> ||drake||, I am looking at the build script on arch and it is pretty heavily patched so that might be the problem
[04:32] <hexstar> electric_d: ISP's only allow one mac address to connect to their network through each unique modem to prevent abuse
[04:32] <techII> hexstar: some modems also do nat
[04:32] <bruenig> ||drake||, it shouldn't touch the kernel, all it will do is build against the kernel, then you have to move over the .ko file that it creates
[04:33] <BlackAlex[headhu> are there any bootloaders out there choudesh that you know of that can work better than grub for raid1 users?
[04:33] <hexstar> techll: yeah, but this modem only has one ethernet port
[04:33] <n2diy> r00723r0: well, you asked about a program, and thats how it is done. For modules, use lsmod.
[04:33] <r00723r0> n2diy: through apt, i meant
[04:33] <hexstar> I had to clone my macs mac address on my router to get it to work
[04:33] <||drake||> bruenig: but what about all that ieeee stuff?
[04:33] <DavidCraft> how do you add a user to a group
[04:33] <techII> mine does too, but still does it
[04:33] <DavidCraft> ?
[04:34] <hexstar> davidcraft: adduser -G groupname username
[04:34] <bruenig> ||drake||, that is the point it to the kernel so it knows what the build against
[04:34] <||drake||> word
[04:34] <bruenig> ||drake||, for it to work you needed to have installed the kernel source
[04:34] <hexstar> lol
[04:34] <n2diy> r00723r0: ok, there is  a way to do it, but I'm not familiar with it. the man page might help you.
[04:34] <r00723r0> that's definitely not right, hexstar
[04:34] <||drake||> how do i know what kernel i am currently running again?
[04:34] <r00723r0> it's with usermod, hexstar
[04:34] <||drake||> uname -(something)
[04:34] <r00723r0> or something like that
[04:34] <bruenig> ||drake||, uname -a
[04:34] <||drake||> thanks
[04:34] <hexstar> r00723r0: no  I've used adduser -G, it works
[04:34] <bruenig> ||drake||, or uname -r, there are a bunch of  options, uname -a gives the most
[04:34] <r00723r0> ok.. weird
[04:34] <||drake||> Linux bluenote 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:35] <||drake||> taht look al;right?
[04:35] <||drake||> ahh typos
[04:35] <hexstar> r00723r0:  useradd - Adding a new user
[04:35] <hexstar> Options:
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -d home directory
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -s starting program (shell)
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -p password
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -g (primary group assigned to the users)
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -G (Other groups the user belongs to)
[04:35] <hexstar>     * -m (Create the user's home directory
[04:35] <hexstar> Example: To add a new user with
[04:35] <hexstar>     * a primary group of users
[04:35] <bruenig> oh gees
[04:35] <hexstar>     * a second group mgmt
[04:35] <hexstar>     * starting shell /bin/bash
[04:35] <hexstar>     * password of xxxx
[04:35] <hexstar>     * home directory of roger
[04:35] <hexstar>     * create home directory
[04:35] <bruenig> !ops
[04:35] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[04:35] <hexstar>     * a login name of roger
[04:35] <hexstar> useradd -gusers -Gmgmt -s/bin/shell -pxxxx -d/home/roger -m roger
[04:35] <Count1> 4 line limit
[04:35] <CerebroJD> erm.... hexstar.....
[04:35] <waltercool> hey... i want change the automount of volumes ntfs in ubuntu... how can i make this??
[04:35] <waltercool> i need change to ntfs-3g
[04:35] <elkbuntu> !paste hexstar
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste hexstar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <elkbuntu> grr
[04:36] <CerebroJD> !pastbin hexstar
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin hexstar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <choudesh> BlackAlex[headhu, no really. the issue is the bootloader needs physical access to the HD. Like I said earlier. The easiest way is to setup your /boot on both HDs, and create the raid with the remaining space. That is how I have it set up.
[04:36] <elkbuntu> !paste | hexstar
[04:36] <ubotu> hexstar: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:36] <CerebroJD> frick, I cant spell
[04:36] <n2diy> ! pastebin | hexstar
[04:36] <CerebroJD> well, theres that too
[04:36] <hexstar> wow....3 ops
[04:36] <hexstar> sorry
[04:36] <||drake||> ! pastebin | drake
[04:36] <ys76> get yourself?
[04:36] <ubotu> drake: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:36] <Amaranth> hexstar: hit /cycle next time
[04:36] <riotkittie> err. stupid question. do i have to specify the root device when i'm booting teh install (alternate install cd) ?   :|
[04:36] <hexstar> wht does that do?
[04:37] <bruenig> ||drake||, see that /lib/modules/KERNELNAME/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko exists
[04:37] <CerebroJD> drops you out of the channel
[04:37] <CerebroJD> then back in
[04:37] <hexstar> oh
[04:37] <CerebroJD> cancelling any pastes you have in progress... hopefully
[04:37] <hexstar> ah
[04:37] <hexstar> ok
[04:37] <reya276> Having some issues, for some reason when I logout and login as a different user then logout and log back in with the previous user Ubuntu will not let me login and the Desktop just stays black
[04:37] <reya276> any reason why this maybe happening
[04:37] <||drake||> bruenig: will do
[04:37] <carpediem> hi~
[04:38] <hexstar> hi carpediem
[04:38] <hexstar> need help?
[04:38] <locke> bruenig: mine doesn't exist and im using ipw3945
[04:38] <carpediem> yeah..
[04:38] <Ashfire908> what is the command to move something?
[04:38] <hexstar> Ashfire908: mv /source /dest
[04:38] <litlebuda> Ashfire908,  mv
[04:38] <Ashfire908> thanks
[04:38] <carpediem> i want to set up ubuntu at my macbook.
[04:38] <n2diy> Ashfire908: mv
[04:38] <hexstar> Ashfire908: np :)
[04:39] <waltercool> heeey... how can i change the automount of ntfs in ubuntu to ntfs-3g
[04:39] <bruenig> locke, where is it located then, it can technically be anywhere under drivers, I would imagine it would at least be in net/wireless
[04:39] <carpediem> i am poor at english.. ;(
[04:39] <||drake||> bruenig: it doesnt exist
[04:39] <waltercool> someone
[04:39] <hexstar> waltercool: nano /etc/fstab
[04:39] <n2diy> carpediem: what is your language?
[04:39] <||drake||> bruenig: i can get to [yadda yadda] /net/wireless/
[04:39] <carpediem> korean..
[04:39] <envi0us> BSDaemon, can't i add a hostname in a host file on the linux box and use it to connect via putty on same network?
[04:39] <waltercool> nonono..
[04:39] <waltercool> hexstar: I have a portable hdd
[04:39] <bruenig> locke, do "locate ipw3945.ko"
[04:39] <locke> bruenig:  /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko
[04:39] <tck> will ubucon website have an english version?
[04:39] <||drake||> bruenig: but then i have bcm stuff and zd1211 and such, but no ipw
[04:39] <HelpMe> Hello, I need help installing the game, Dufus
[04:39] <akos> hello everyone! I have the following problem: I have a router, so I have DHCP dynamic IP's on my home network. nslookup does not work on the lan, hostnames don't get resolved to private IP's... what can I do?
[04:39] <HelpMe> Dofus*
[04:39] <bruenig> locke, ubuntu, what the hell
[04:39] <hexstar> waltercool: if it's in on boot it should be in fstab I'd imagine
[04:40] <techII> !ntfs-config
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <RoundyT1> !python
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <hexstar> !info ntfs-config
[04:40] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[04:40] <RoundyT1> wtf
[04:40] <locke> bruenig: hell if i know, that's just where it is ;x
[04:40] <soulrider> hello, im translating some goffice packages, but im not sire fo what "axis padding" is in a graph, could somebody explain the meaning please ?
[04:40] <waltercool> mmm... seeking that...
[04:40] <carpediem> does anyone help me to install ubuntu on macintosh?
[04:40] <bruenig> locke, I guess since they bundle it all together in one package, that is the easiest way to do it
[04:40] <lietu> akos: "hostnames"? in the lan? as in, computer names?
[04:40] <hexstar> !axis padding
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about axis padding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <BSDaemon> envi0us: not if it's a dynamic address , the hostname points to an IP and if it changes it no longer works
[04:40] <akos> lietu, yeha
[04:40] <bruenig> ||drake||, does  /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko exist
[04:40] <hexstar> akos: /etc/hostname
[04:41] <lietu> akos: you can add them manually in /etc/hosts atleast ...
[04:41] <akos> hexstar, they are dynamic!
[04:41] <locke> bruenig: make sure he puts in the right kernel, mine also exists in 2.6.20-16-generic, sorry
[04:41] <akos> lietu, they are dynamic!
[04:41] <envi0us> BSDaemon: okay, fair enough.
[04:41] <lietu> akos: let me just double check, these are computer names and not real hostnames?
[04:41] <bruenig> locke, yeah I was hoping he could pick up on that
[04:41] <waltercool> thank u very much :)
[04:41] <envi0us> next question, how do i access irc through cmd line not gui
[04:41] <HelpMe> I need help Installing DOFUS!  Someone pleas help me!
[04:41] <hexstar> waltercool: np :)
[04:41] <lietu> envi0us: irssi
[04:41] <bruenig> envi0us, irssi
[04:41] <akos> lietu, what's the difference?
[04:42] <hexstar> envi0us: irssi
[04:42] <||drake||> bruenig: no
[04:42] <locke> bruenig: this is fairly useful for me, i came into here to ask about ipw3945, but different things ;x
[04:42] <hexstar> !info irssi
[04:42] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[04:42] <lietu> akos: the other one is just a name like mybedroomcomputer, the other one is a real hostname like www.google.com ...
[04:42] <akos> lietu, it's the former
[04:42] <n2diy> Does irssi let you filter out the connect and disconnect messages?
[04:42] <bruenig> ||drake||, do a "sudo updatedb && sudo locate ipw3945.ko"
[04:43] <akos> lietu, it's mybedroomcomputer :D
[04:43] <lietu> akos: that is WINS/netbios stuff
[04:43] <lietu> akos: not sure how to set up support for that
[04:43] <hexstar> !WINS
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <hexstar> !netbios
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <riotkittie> I'm trying to install 7.04 from the alternate cd, I keep running intor Kernel Panics... "can't open root device", "please append a correct "root=" boot option", not syncing vfs.
[04:43] <||drake||> bruenig: as i said, "bruenig: i can get to [yadda yadda] /net/wireless/  but then i have bcm folders and zd1211 and such, but no ipw
[04:43] <electric_d> hexstar: that worked, I'm wireless again
[04:43] <riotkittie> should i specify the partiton i want to install to as root? the cd?
[04:43] <hexstar> electric_d: :)
[04:43] <||drake||> bruenig: will do
[04:43] <bruenig> ||drake||, does nothing show up when you run that locate command?
[04:43] <bruenig> or
[04:44] <hexstar> ||drake||: locate ipw*
[04:44] <electric_d> I've never had that happen before. I wonder why my router's MAC is banned
[04:44] <akos> lietu, thx
[04:44] <bruenig> hexstar, that will locate a bunch of unnecessary stuff though
[04:44] <hexstar> electric_d: who knows, that happened to me too
[04:44] <||drake||> bruenig: was that supposed to be updateb or just update?
[04:44] <riotkittie> i'm not liking ubuntu's text install. it makes me yearn for the simplicity of slackware :<
[04:44] <lietu> riotkittie: it should work without any parameters, what you definately dont need to enter is the partition you want to install to
[04:44] <bruenig> ipw2200 and all of that stuff
[04:44] <||drake||> bruenig: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko
[04:44] <satafterh> any plans on fixing issues with 8800gts in next release?
[04:44] <||drake||> is what it spits out
[04:44] <||drake||> but that certainly isnt in nautilus
[04:44] <bruenig> ||drake||, ok good, so it is installed
[04:45] <riotkittie> lietu:  its not working without any parameters. it kernel panics every time
[04:45] <HelpMe> Can somebody help me pleas?  I Just installed a game called Dofus.  It was a exe file and I unziped it onto my computer.   :P ask.
[04:47] <n2diy> riotkittie: nodma!
[04:47] <||drake||> bruenig: but its not the standard 8086:4222, its 8086:4229 (speaking of lspci -n here)
[04:47] <bruenig> ||drake||, that's kind of a tough one to trouble shoot, the modprobe is one of the first things that should happen at boot and so it isn't because you haven't done the right stuff
[04:47] <HelpMe> Its ment for linux
[04:47] <yellow_chicken> where's the ubuntu beta channel?
[04:47] <ashnickel> okay, how do I know which feisty I have. I know it's 7.04, but is it i386 or amd64??
[04:47] <HelpMe> I just dont know how to install it
[04:47] <lietu> HelpMe: if it's a .exe file, it's NOT for linux
[04:47] <HAL9090> exes are meant for windows
[04:48] <lousygarua> HelpMe: meant for linux? so you probably downloaded the wrong installation file
[04:48] <riotkittie> HelpMe: if it were meant for linux, it wouldnt be an exe
[04:48] <astro76> yellow_chicken, #ubuntu+1
[04:48] <curtis> QUICK!!!!!!!!!!
[04:48] <n2diy> ! ubuntu+1 yellow_chicken
[04:48] <HelpMe> acctually, its a Zip file
[04:48] <locke> Lol
[04:48] <curtis> whats the best firewall for ubuntu
[04:48] <n2diy> ! ubuntu+1 | yellow_chicken
[04:48] <ubotu> yellow_chicken: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[04:48] <tafa> hi I'm gonna try ubuntu studio, does ubuntu work with java I mean jre. java virtual machine.
[04:48] <riotkittie> ok. a zip file.  uncompress it.
[04:48] <yellow_chicken> thx
[04:48] <HelpMe> I did
[04:48] <ashnickel> anyone??
[04:48] <||drake||> bruenig: all i've done is install feisty, and i have to type modprobe piix at boot up... other than that its fresh as a newborn chicken or whatever teh cliche is
[04:48] <mheath> tafa, Sure does.
[04:48] <riotkittie> and... theres an exe in it??
[04:48] <HelpMe> no
[04:48] <blackalex> ok i got soem good news and some bad news cloudesh
[04:48] <||drake||> tafa: is ubuntu studio really any different?
[04:49] <Pie-rate> I have a problem with my Parallax BASIC stamp board, it has a USB to serial converter onboard. When i plug it in, dmesg immediately says its been disconnected. I can't see any COM ports in the parallax IDE running under WINE. http://pastebin.ca/636657
[04:49] <blackalex> good news is that i found a way into my grub / ubuntu installation
[04:49] <||drake||> tafa: isnt it just ubuntu preconfigured with JACK and other such stuff?
[04:49] <riotkittie> ok. what's in this file you've uncompressed?
[04:49] <blackalex> but thats with my raid1 deleted
[04:49] <tafa> just wonder because debian didn't
[04:49] <bruenig> ||drake||, right that is why it is hard to tell you what to do, you could not have screwed it up nor could you have been expected to do something before it should work, it just isn't detecting your wireless interface as ipw3945
[04:49] <blackalex> which is the bad news
[04:49] <bruenig> ||drake||, it is either detecting it as something else or not at all
[04:49] <HelpMe> Dofus_v1_19_0.zip
[04:49] <blackalex> so i need some enlightenment
[04:49] <n2diy> Pie-rate: do you know the USB>Serial cable works?
[04:49] <lietu> HelpMe: and what files did you get OUT of it?
[04:50] <HelpMe> A lot
[04:50] <lietu> ok, let's look at this differently, WHERE did you get it?
[04:50] <Pie-rate> n2diy: its not a cable, its on the parallax board
[04:50] <locke> bruenig: How do I load my ipw3945 from command line?
[04:50] <Pie-rate> n2diy: and yes, this is a robot i built about a year ago, it works flawlessly in windows.
[04:50] <ashnickel> do i have i386 or amd64, how do i tell???
[04:51] <bruenig> locke, do "which ipw3945d"
[04:51] <yellow_chicken> anyone using the alsa 1.0.14 official release on 7.04?
[04:51] <locke> uname -a
[04:51] <locke> ashnickel: uname -a
[04:51] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Ok, not up to speed on the newer stamps, never seen on of those. So, you need to establish comms. between Ubuntu and the Stamp?
[04:51] <ashnickel> and that will tell me?
[04:51] <locke> bruenig: that didn't do anything
[04:51] <locke> ashnickel: yea
[04:51] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i need to make it show up in the editor, yes
[04:52] <ashnickel> in the terminal right?
[04:52] <waltercool> someone know a command for change the label of partitions?
[04:52] <locke> ashnickel: yes
[04:52] <HelpMe> sooo, what do i do?
[04:52] <ashnickel> ok, sorry, i know those are duh questions
[04:52] <bruenig> locke, you can try to just modprobe ipw3945 and then move on from there with iwconfig and all that good stuff
[04:52] <CMCDragonkai> Hello, I'm very new to ubuntu, could someone tell me step by step to how to change the ownership and permissions of a directory and all of the subdirectories and all of their subdirectories and files
[04:52] <Pie-rate> n2diy: and the USB version of their BOE board has been around for over a year
[04:52] <n2diy> Pie-rate: do you have minicom installed?
[04:52] <Pie-rate> n2diy: minicom?
[04:52] <lietu> HelpMe: dofus homepage says you extract it to any folder, and then you should have some executable file in there
[04:52] <Pie-rate> n2diy: downloading now
[04:52] <mrwho> Helpme: interesting user name
[04:52] <locke> bruenig: i know i can take it down, but im hoping that i can get it back up afterward XD
[04:53] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: Try using chown "username" "folder"
[04:53] <lietu> HelpMe: open the folder you extracted to with the file browser/whatever, and try locating it
[04:53] <bruenig> locke, on arch you need to modprobe and then run the ipw3945 daemon, not sure if ubuntu takes a different approach
[04:53] <n2diy> Pie-rate: minicom lets you configure your serial ports.
[04:53] <myself_> CMCDragonkai: chmod -R dir
[04:53] <blackalex> when i type "grub-install" i get two definitions for hd0 and hd1
[04:53] <HelpMe> lietu:  ok
[04:53] <lousygarua> lietu: this DOFUS game helpme talks about does come as an .exe for mac/linux/win98. like utorrent states that it works under wine on their site
[04:53] <ashnickel> okay, it told me "Linux dell 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:53] <bruenig> locke, do you mean just roaming with cli or do you mean literally loading the ipw module so that your card will work
[04:53] <waltercool> myself_: chmod isnt for files?
[04:53] <CMCDragonkai> So I just chown username and then file?
[04:53] <ashnickel> so, i386?
[04:53] <myself_> chown user dir will only change dir to user not dir/dir
[04:53] <blackalex> for a raid do i want to update "/dev/sda" to "/dev/mapper/sil_xxx?"
[04:53] <dug__> CMCDragonkai: add the -r option to chmod, or the graphical way is to right click the folder, properties, permissions, change permissions, and click button 'apply to enclosed files'
[04:53] <CMCDragonkai> whats my username?
[04:53] <myself_> chown i mean...
[04:53] <dug__> chown i mean
[04:53] <Pie-rate> n2diy: what am i supposed to do with this?
[04:54] <waltercool> myself_: Exist chown -R xD
[04:54] <locke> bruenig: i want to install ipwraw, and write a script to go from ipw3945 to ipwraw, and vice versa
[04:54] <HelpMe> lousygarua: ok
[04:54] <lietu> lousygarua: well their site says there's both a windows and linux version
[04:54] <n2diy> Pie-rate: open a terminal, and run it with the command minicom.
[04:54] <CMCDragonkai> yes but I dont have ownership of the file
[04:54] <Pie-rate> n2diy: way ahead of you. WTF am i supposed to do with it?
[04:54] <bruenig> locke, what is ipwraw?
[04:54] <froyd> hi all
[04:54] <froyd> nite
[04:54] <zerokill88> !pastebin
[04:54] <froyd> need a lil help
[04:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:54] <myself_> CMCDragonkai: chown -R user dir/ is correct
[04:54] <||drake||> bruenig: sorry it took so long...
[04:54] <blackalex> this is for grub...
[04:54] <lousygarua> HelpMe: lietu: there must be some README  or INSTALL file after you unzip the package with instructions
[04:54] <||drake||> bruenig: yea, i have no idea what to do
[04:54] <||drake||> bruenig: it helped other people with a manual wireless killswitch to reboot into windows, then back into ;buntu
[04:54] <||drake||> but that didnt help me
[04:55] <CMCDragonkai> what is -R mean?
[04:55] <n2diy> Pie-rate: try to configure your serial port to talk to the stamp!
[04:55] <bruenig> ||drake||, yeah that doesn't make any sense
[04:55] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: REcursivity... is for all files and folder inside
[04:55] <locke> bruenig: drivers that allow packet injection, ipw3945 do not
[04:55] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: And sub-folders
[04:55] <CMCDragonkai> oh ok
[04:55] <Pie-rate> n2diy: =/
[04:55] <CMCDragonkai> do i need to put sudo infront of it
[04:55] <waltercool> exactly
[04:55] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i have no idea how serial communications work.
[04:55] <bruenig> locke, oh ubuntu has two packages for that? On arch the ipw3945 is setup by default to do all that fun stuff, you can just use ipwraw all the time
[04:56] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i'm not going to be able to just start using a tool like this
[04:56] <froyd> i left my notebook with the screen locked in my ubuntu dapper drake and my batery run off, now, when i try to start the gdm fails and says xorg.conf doesnt work, i run the dpkg-reconfigure from inside one of my backups but i lost everything apparently, my beryl , my hole configuration for gdm
[04:56] <locke> bruenig: well ipwraw is configured to be in promiscuous mode all the time, so i'd rather not ;x
[04:56] <froyd> is there a way to fix up my xorg.conf?
[04:56] <n2diy> Pie-rate: the Stamp manual tells you what baud rate, and comm parameters it uses.
[04:56] <CMCDragonkai> is it forward slash or backslash for the firectory and I start with /etc or \etc?
[04:56] <mrwho> can anyone tell me the channels command for irc?
[04:56] <bruenig> locke, why is that a problem?
[04:56] <pork> hey guys where at the logs that shows you how the computer was shutdown cause i told my friend to shutdown and i think he just held the power button and he swears he didnt and i wanna prove he did lol so i can punch him
[04:56] <Pie-rate> n2diy: but the com port doesn't even exist. did you not look at the pastebin? it immediately says the device was disconnected
[04:56] <techII> mrwho: join or list?
[04:57] <locke> bruenig: don't know, it wouldn't effect anything?
[04:57] <phpwner> how do i assign a file to both a user and group?
[04:57] <phpwner> chown root:root file?
[04:57] <mrwho> list
[04:57] <||drake||> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31619/
[04:57] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: /etc/...
[04:57] <phpwner> or chown root root file?
[04:57] <techII> mrwho: /list
[04:57] <CMCDragonkai> ok
[04:57] <techII> it gives out a lot
[04:57] <n2diy> Pie-rate: because Ubuntu doesn't know how to talk to it, that is what we are setting up.
[04:57] <mrwho> thanks
[04:57] <pork> ./var/logs ?
[04:57] <froyd> anybody can help me with the xorg.conf ?
[04:57] <HelpMe> config.xml     Would that be how i install it?
[04:57] <savetheWorld> phpwner: the former
[04:57] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: backslash for window$
[04:57] <phpwner> thx
[04:57] <CMCDragonkai> is the username just the username that I setup for my account?
[04:57] <savetheWorld> arf
[04:57] <bruenig> locke, no, the only difference between the two is different compile options when you compile ipw3945, I am always using the driver with the monitor and promiscuous going
[04:57] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: Username of the user of u want...
[04:58] <myself_> CMCDragonkai: note: i don't recommend chown -R CMCDragonkai /etc
[04:58] <froyd> im just in gdm now cuz i did the dpkg-reconfigure and i startx in the console
[04:58] <Pie-rate> n2diy: ok... how do i set it up, then?
[04:58] <wlnet> will the epson cx2900 all-in-one works well on ubuntu?
[04:58] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: I dont recommend too
[04:58] <bruenig> ||drake||, I didn't ask for that
[04:58] <CMCDragonkai> um then what should I do?
[04:58] <envi0us> why does cp *.* /usr/local/ircii not work?
[04:58] <n2diy> Pie-rate: with minicom, what baud rate is the stamp using?
[04:58] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: What is the problem?
[04:58] <zerokill88> hey bruenig, if i type lshw wouldnt it show me if i had a wireless card in my laptop?
[04:58] <bruenig> envi0us, do you get permission errors?
[04:58] <envi0us> no
[04:58] <astro76> envi0us, if you mean all files, you want *
[04:58] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i don't remember what it uses.
[04:58] <bruenig> zerokill88, I have never used that command
[04:59] <envi0us> No errror. It just doesn't cp everything.
[04:59] <CMCDragonkai> well I'm tried to save a file to my apache place, but It said I can't because I dont own it
[04:59] <zerokill88> bruenig oh
[04:59] <astro76> envi0us, *.* will not copy files without a . in them
[04:59] <HelpMe> lousygarua:   I cant run it throught wine.   for some reason when i go to accesories, the thing that said whine fil isent there
[04:59] <Pie-rate> n2diy: pretty sure it uses up to 9600
[04:59] <waltercool> CMCDragonkai: If u want edit a file in etc... only use sudo gedit file, or sudo nano file
[04:59] <HelpMe> lousygarua:  so I cant run it
[04:59] <envi0us> ok, now I am getting errors.
[04:59] <n2diy> Pie-rate: don't you have the manual?
[04:59] <envi0us> cp: omitting directory: directory name.
[04:59] <CMCDragonkai> so how would I edit a file say in \etc\apache\config.txt?
[05:00] <waltercool> sudo nano /etc/apache/config.txt
[05:00] <lousygarua> HelpMe: what do you mean? do you run in a terminal and you see any error messages that it writes?
[05:00] <techII> CMCDragonkai: "sudo gedit /etc/apache/config.txt"
[05:00] <CMCDragonkai> ok
[05:00] <techII> ctrl+x exits nano
[05:00] <waltercool> for all the likes xD
[05:00] <Pie-rate> n2diy: 9600
[05:00] <n2diy> Pie-rate: we need two crucial pieces of information about the stamp, the baud rate it is using, and what parity it is using, like 8n1?
[05:00] <HelpMe> lousygarua:    How do i do it in the termanal?
[05:00] <CMCDragonkai> what If I needed to save a file otehr then a txt file?
[05:00] <astro76> envi0us, no doubt you need sudo, to copy to /usr/local
[05:00] <project9> i am planning for mail server where my all emploies mail will land on server and then i should able to distibute to thier mail id ----is it possible
[05:00] <blackalex> ok im a bit confused
[05:01] <envi0us> i'm root
[05:01] <project9> using postfix
[05:01] <techII> i usually use vim
[05:01] <lousygarua> HelpMe: applications-> accessories->terminal
[05:01] <n2diy> Pie-rate: and we need to know which comm port your using on the ubuntu box.
[05:01] <HelpMe> lousygarua:  ohhh, it says thats i need flash player for the game to work.  I have no idea how to install flash player
[05:01] <blackalex> when i have my raid1 created it has a /dev/mapper location but if not its simply /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[05:02] <blackalex> can grub use locations like /dev/mapper/sil_xxx ?
[05:02] <||drake||> bruenig: i copy/pasted that ipw3945 folder from [stuff] /kernel/ubuntu/wireless into the places you said it should be
[05:02] <CMCDragonkai> thanks for you help everybody
[05:02] <lousygarua> HelpMe: did y ou read the readme file for instructions? there are flash players for linux but maybe they provide better instructions on their own
[05:02] <||drake||> bruenig: [stuff] kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[05:02] <||drake||> bruenig: should that htlp?
[05:02] <envi0us> cp /tmp/ircii/* /usr/local/ircii
[05:02] <||drake||> *help
[05:02] <envi0us> fyi
[05:02] <waltercool> :)
[05:02] <HelpMe> lousygarua:  no read me
[05:02] <techII> CMCDragonkai: nano prompts you for a filename when exiting or saving
[05:03] <blackalex> uhm... help please and thank you?
[05:03] <ash__> Hello all... Question... I have my video card installed... I dont know if it's installed correctly or not but all the video works fine and doesnt lag or anything... only problem is that SOME functions seem to freeze the computer... I can play videos for hours and no crashed... but dragging windows around, minimizing, maximizing, website games, things like that make the computer freeze with no response to any commands...
[05:03] <waltercool> techII: He exists xD
[05:03] <lousygarua> HelpMe: what about their site? is there a support forum for linux? did you check there?
[05:03] <albert`> hey guys
[05:03] <lousygarua> HelpMe: maybe google for "dufos ubuntu install"
[05:03] <RoundyT1> Who knows Python?!
[05:03] <waltercool> ash__: What videocard?
[05:03] <Pie-rate> n2diy: says 8 bits, no parity
[05:03] <albert`> do you know why I'm not allowed to create an extended partition
[05:03] <rapid_> where to get wma codec
[05:04] <albert`> the option to create a primary partition is available but not extended
[05:04] <JaysC> Ok I am having some issues, I have ran out of space on / now i decided i would boot into the live cd and mount /usr on it's own with 5gb of space but it will not let me do it in gparted iget: Resize /dev/sda7 from 43.95 GiB to 39.06 GiB    ( ERROR )
[05:04] <JaysC>
[05:04] <JaysC> check filesystem on /dev/sda7 for errors and (if possible) fix them    ( ERROR )
[05:04] <JaysC>
[05:04] <JaysC> e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda7
[05:04] <RoundyT1> Can anyone help me with a simple python program please?
[05:04] <JaysC>
[05:04] <astro76> envi0us, it means you have subdirectories in /tmp/ircii/, but cp won't copy them without -r option
[05:04] <JaysC> /dev/sda7 is mounted.
[05:04] <JaysC> e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[05:04] <JaysC> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[05:04] <JaysC> Any ideas?
[05:04] <n2diy> Pie-rate: ok, so now we want to set up the comm port for 9600 baud, 8n1, but which comm port are you using?
[05:04] <envi0us> yes, I found that out now. =/ Thanks.
[05:04] <waltercool> !!
[05:04] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i have no fucking clue.
[05:04] <ash__> waltercool, ati radeon 9200 or something... it's somewhat old but should be able to handle KDE and visual effects and all that... it did in windows :(
[05:04] <techII> RoundyT1: I have used it in the past, though i would ask on #python
[05:04] <waltercool> JaysC: Use pastebin.ca for that!
[05:04] <HelpMe> Brb,  Pie ;)
[05:04] <JaysC> waltercool: sorry i will next time
[05:05] <rapid_> where to get wma codec
[05:05] <albert`> does anybody know of a partition tool in Ubuntu that allows me to automatically redistribute free space?
[05:05] <file13> gparted
[05:05] <albert`> file13: Where is that feature?
[05:05] <xxx555>  i am on a linux live cd... can i save mty settings some how?
[05:05] <c2Kbu> ok i want to be able to stay here in kubuntu yet over the last 2 days I have not been able to gain any ground on this resolution issue I have pasted and and work on it this way and that way to no avail and then Accused wild assumptions and 8ull5h17 from two of kubuntu's 455w1p3 support FUCK ubuntu I am Going back to mandriva @ least there was Respect there
[05:05] <n2diy> Pie-rate: watch your language, and don't cop an attitude on me. Are you on a laptop or desktop?
[05:05] <waltercool> ash__: Mmmm... and u have propietary drivers installed?
[05:05] <rapid_> xxx555, best to just install
[05:05] <Pie-rate> n2diy: desktop, asus a8n-sli
[05:05] <Pie-rate> n2diy: sorry about the language
[05:05] <xxx555> no hard drive
[05:05] <ash__> waltercool, I dont know what that is...?
[05:05] <mrwho> People is windows chats are fuckin crazy people
[05:06] <astro76> !medibuntu | rapid_ you can get w32codecs here
[05:06] <ubotu> rapid_ you can get w32codecs here: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:06] <albert`> does anybody know of a partition tool in Ubuntu that allows me to automatically redistribute free space?
[05:06] <waltercool> ash__: System/Admin/Restricted...
[05:06] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Are you on a laptop or desktop?
[05:06] <Pie-rate> n2diy: desktop, asus a8n-sli
[05:06] <JaysC> hi all, Ok I am trying to resize a partition and gpartd keeps giving me: http://pastebin.ca/636666
[05:06] <waltercool> ash__: In this manner, u can get acceleration in ur videocard, and not using a generic driver
[05:06] <JaysC> So it is not working :(
[05:07] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Does it have traditional comm ports, besides the USB ports?
[05:07] <waltercool> JaysC: U need unmount the drive
[05:07] <waltercool> JaysC: In console write sudo umount /dev/sda7
[05:07] <Pie-rate> n2diy: not on the back. i think it may have some internal ones
[05:07] <JaysC> Ok thanks i will try it
[05:07] <waltercool> JaysC: And try again ;)
[05:07] <ash__> waltercool, what is system/admin/restricted?
[05:08] <albert`> does anybody know of a partition tool in Ubuntu that allows me to automatically redistribute free space?
[05:08] <ash__> I have a sys folder.. is that what you mean?
[05:08] <xxx555> whats a good firewall to use?
[05:08] <waltercool> ash__: Is the propietary drivers of videocards..., i have nvidia... and there i can get acceleration
[05:08] <file13> Im gonna reinstall ubuntu but i have a dual boot system. My question is when i reinstall do i delete the swap and the ext partition or can i keep the swap and just redo the other part.
[05:08] <waltercool> ash__: idk if in ati works...
[05:08] <Pie-rate> n2diy: 1 port inside.
[05:09] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Ok, we don't have to worry about the internal ones. Now I'm stuck, I don't know if USB ports are handled like tradititional comm ports or not?
[05:09] <waltercool> ash__: Is restricted drivers
[05:09] <n2diy> How does the system refer to serial USB ports, ttySX?
[05:10] <xxx555> what is a good software firewall to use?
[05:10] <albert`> can somebody help me with Gparted? For some reason it wont allow me to create extended partitions
[05:10] <xtknight> n2diy, /dev/usb* i think
[05:10] <Pie-rate> n2diy: pretty sure they aren't
[05:10] <xtknight> n2diy, i think it depends on the device and the module loaded, however
[05:10] <n2diy> xtknight: will minicom configure those?
[05:10] <locke> what is a .ko file?
[05:10] <xtknight>  /dev/ttyUSB is a serial->usb converter that's bout all i know
[05:10] <xtknight> locke, a kernel module
[05:10] <HelpMe> lousygarua:  back
[05:10] <xtknight> n2diy, no idea
[05:10] <xtknight> n2diy, what kind of device?
[05:11] <waltercool> albert`: Sorry... i dont use extended partitions
[05:11] <astro76> albert`, we can try... you can only have one extended partition, and if you already have 4 primaries, you'll have to delete one, does this help?
[05:11] <n2diy> xtknight: ok, thanks. Basic Stamp micro controller.
[05:11] <thekernel> join #ubuntu-ve
[05:11] <xtknight> n2diy, it communicates over a usb port?
[05:11] <lousygarua> HelpMe: well? any progress?
[05:11] <Pie-rate> n2diy: in the editor it says: COM0: invalid port, COM1: no loopback, no echo, COM2: can't open port, COM3, can't open port, etc.
[05:11] <lietu> /dev/ttyUSB* generally are problematic
[05:12] <albert`> astro76: My partitions are int his order: D drive (storage), unallocated, C Drive (XP), Unallocated, Ubuntu, ubuntu swap, unallocated
[05:12] <lietu> and usb ports are not com ports
[05:12] <albert`> astro76: Whenever I create one between D and C, it allows me. Anything after C Drive will tell me I already have 4 partitions
[05:12] <xtknight> nope, but they are serial
[05:12] <n2diy> xtknight: That's what Pie-rate is telling me.
[05:12] <albert`> astro76: When I create between D and C which it allows me to, I cannot change primary partition to extended
[05:12] <xtknight> i dont know much about usb,serial,com ports really to tell you the truth
[05:12] <n2diy> Pie-rate: those are Winders designations, are you running Wine too?
[05:13] <xtknight> nah they're universal
[05:13] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i said in my first message:
[05:13] <Pie-rate> I have a problem with my Parallax BASIC stamp board, it has a USB to serial converter onboard. When i plug it in, dmesg immediately says its been disconnected. I can't see any COM ports in the parallax IDE running under WINE. http://pastebin.ca/636657
[05:13] <astro76> albert`, you cannot change primary to extended because for one, extended is just a container for logical partitions
[05:13] <Pie-rate> n2diy: i have since added the COM ports manually
[05:13] <xtknight> Pie-rate, okay so it has a usb->serial onboard?  well AFAIK you'd need to configure the COM program to point to /dev/ttyUSB0 instead of /ttyS0.
[05:13] <albert`> astro76: I am trying to create a new partition between C and D. I meant to say it gives me the option to create a primary partition but not an extended
[05:14] <xtknight> my dad was dealing with that exact same thing
[05:14] <Pie-rate> xtknight: how?
[05:14] <xtknight> Pie-rate, ill see if i can find the app i used.  but most COM apps are configurable in one way or another
[05:14] <Pie-rate> xtknight: its running under WINE
[05:14] <envi0us> anyone use ircII?
[05:14] <ash__> !ati
[05:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <xtknight> Pie-rate, do you need to run it under wine?
[05:15] <supaneko> Could someone help me figure out my taskbar? It doesn't seem to work on this monitor.
[05:15] <astro76> albert`, then you must have an extended already since you already have 4
[05:15] <xtknight> (proprietary software that communicates over a COM port, right?)
[05:15] <Pie-rate> xtknight: pretty much. i think there are some native utilities.
[05:15] <albert`> astro76: If I have an extended, how can I create more partitions with the unallocated space. Each time I create one, it tells me that I cannot create more than 4 partitions
[05:15] <supaneko> Excuse me, notification area.
[05:15] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Ok, I haven't played with a stamp since the BSII, so we are talking about seven years ago. Have you tried Parallax for support? It is their propriatary languag.
[05:15] <xtknight> Pie-rate, hmm well then i dont know what the next step is.  perhaps link /dev/ttyS0 to /dev/ttyUSB0, or modify wine source code
[05:16] <Pie-rate> n2diy: its nothing to do with the language and this is a BS2
[05:16] <zerokill88> whats the difference form 802.11a/g and 802.11n???
[05:16] <astro76> albert`, you really can't, you'll have to slide the existing partitions to consolidate space to adjacent to the extended, so you can expand the extended
[05:16] <albert`> astro76: Should I upload a screenshot of what my screen looks like
[05:16] <carpediem> anyone know how to install ubuntu on macbook?
[05:16] <Maxwell> Hi all
[05:16] <astro76> albert`, sure
[05:16] <Pie-rate> xtknight: dmesg is saying the device was disconnected.
[05:16] <albert`> astro76: uploading, btw i appreciate ur help
[05:17] <scotty> Okay, I've come across this area in the past but now I can't find it. Where is the button that fixes the firefox scrollbar error located?
[05:17] <xtknight> Pie-rate, well, it's probably a driver bug
[05:17] <n2diy> Pie-rate: Ok, then how come your are configuring com ports, when linux doesn't use that term for serial ports?
[05:17] <astro76> albert`, no problem, this can be a bit obtuse at first
[05:17] <Maxwell> any1 can help me? Im getting troubles, trying to install my mobo's drivers
[05:17] <Pie-rate> n2diy: because you told me to.
[05:17] <jbig> question: is there any desktop environment for ubuntu server edition?
[05:17] <xtknight> n2diy, he's running an app under Wine
[05:17] <scotty> nvm
[05:17] <scotty> found it
[05:17] <albert`> astro76: This is the picture. http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4006/screenshotwt2.png
[05:18] <n2diy> Pie-rate: No I didn't, com ports in linux are referred to as ttySX.
[05:18] <choudesh> Anyone know the gstreamer plugin name that plays acc?
[05:18] <xtknight> Pie-rate, have you tried basic stamp linux software?  http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/downloads/software/software_basic_stamp.asp
[05:18] <AdemoS> compengi: Ended up being the computer
[05:18] <xtknight> choudesh, AAC (mpeg4)?
[05:19] <choudesh> xtknight, yep. m4a also.
[05:19] <AdemoS> compengi: because the disc worked on every other computer except that one, and had no errors
[05:19] <xtknight> choudesh, i dont think linux can play encrypted itunes
[05:19] <AdemoS> she's buying a new laptop and I'm wiping Windows Vista for the much slicker Ubuntu
[05:19] <choudesh> xtknight, they arent protected
[05:19] <xtknight> choudesh, open it with totem and it should tell you which gstreamer package to install
[05:19] <n2diy> xtknight: right, it is an app problem, not a Ubuntu problem. But stamps are cool, so I'm trying to help him. But I don't run Wine, so I guess I can't?
[05:19] <choudesh> xtknight, ;-)
[05:19] <astro76> albert`, so in this situation, you can only create more logical partitions within the extended (sdc1), so you'll first need to slide sdc2,3,and 4 to the right, then resize sdc1 to the right, then create logicals in there
[05:19] <envi0us> what's the cmd to see a job running such as ircii?
[05:20] <AdemoS> compengi: Anyway, thanks for your help before. Have a good nigt.
[05:20] <albert`> astro76: How can I slide the partitions to the right of the 88.13 GB in the middle
[05:20] <Rope|0ff> Maxwell
[05:20] <Maxwell> Yap
[05:20] <Rope|0ff> Ask here :P
[05:20] <Pie-rate> xtknight: hmm, i'm guessing i'm pretty much boned if that doesn't work. there's no documentation
[05:20] <n2diy> Pie-rate: I'm not familiar with Wine, if you want to try and play with the stamp using linux, I can help, otherwise I can't.
[05:20] <xtknight> n2diy, i dont quite understand what you mean.  seems as though the driver isnt detecting his usb->serial converter correctly.  or maybe he needs special software
[05:21] <xtknight> ya those linux apps are unsupported hmm
[05:21] <choudesh> xtknight, faad. ;-)
[05:21] <astro76> albert`, first you'll slide sdc4 all the way right, then sdc3 all the way, then sdc2, they'll still be in the same order
[05:21] <xtknight> ahh
[05:22] <devang> http://apcmag.com/6458/dont_wait_for_vista_sp1_pleads_microsoft should convert any vista users from now eh?
[05:22] <n2diy> xtknight: well, is is trying to configure com ports, and my Ubuntu box refers to them as ttySX ports, so there is a language barrier at work here.
[05:22] <albert`> astro76: Sorry I meant to ask how to slide partitions
[05:22] <n2diy> is/he is
[05:22] <xtknight> n2diy, the app within wine of course uses the term COM becaues that's what it is on windows
[05:22] <xtknight> wine isn't telling him anything about COM ports, only the app running inside
[05:23] <xtknight> or maybe it is, since wine bridges windows to linux
[05:23] <astro76> albert`, click on it, click resize/move, then click and drag
[05:23] <nomad111> how do i install themes for compiz fusion
[05:23] <n2diy> xtknight: and how well does Wine bridge them?
[05:23] <nomad111> any ideas?
[05:23] <xtknight> n2diy, no idea
[05:24] <n2diy> xtknight: I love hearding cats. :)
[05:24] <albert`> astro76: When I click on resize/ move, I can only resize. I'm not sure how to move the partitions. When I try to click on it and drag it, nothing happens. Also, the swap file cannot be resized or moved
[05:24] <xtknight> :P
[05:25] <astro76> albert`, if the 24GB space (between sdc5 and sdc2) is enough, you can just create a logical in that space and not move anything
[05:26] <JaysC> ok i made a new partition, i moved /usr to it, Anything else I have to do to make linux boot with that as it's /usr?
[05:26] <albert`> astro76: I can create a logical there. But how I can I utilize the unallocated space wasted on the right?
[05:26] <astro76> JaysC, fix your /etc/fstab ?
[05:26] <file13> Im reinstalling Ubuntu on a dual partition HDD with XP on the other partition. When i re-install ubuntu do i need to delete the swap and ext partition and make both clean or can i keep the swap partition
[05:27] <JaysC> astro76: thanks i new i forgot somthing :)
[05:27] <astro76> albert`, for that you'll have to slide partitions over, you mean it won't let you slide over sdc2 at all?
[05:27] <n2diy> xtknight: So, here is the program flow: linux >wine>parallax interpeter>basic stamp. Which one is at fault? Here kittie kittie! ;)
[05:27] <albert`> nothing will slide. btw, I am using the LIVE CD
[05:27] <BillTheFish> Ahoy
[05:27] <albert`> astro76: Nothing will slide, I've tried everything. But I am on the LIVE CD
[05:27] <xtknight> n2diy, probably all of them.  if linux's driver is messed up, then everything beneath it is broken also.  lovely huh?
[05:28] <astro76> albert`, I bet the livecd automounted the partitions, in which case you'll need to unmount them (right click on desktop icon and click unmount)
[05:28] <MentalReject> I am going to put linux on my computer for the first time :)
[05:28] <oleksa> Hi. I'm going crazy trying to get my 7.04 to boot from a new drive I copied it to. I booted from 7.04 live cd and reinstalled grub. However, when I try to boot the screen flickers a bit and shows a weird bios message - something like "PCMP#@DELL WS 470" and doesn't even seem to get to the grub stage. I am lost.
[05:28] <nickrud> MentalReject, you'll have to change your nick ;)
[05:29] <osxdude|lap> lol nickrud
[05:29] <n2diy> xtknight: Yes, how do you test a com port, can you ping it?
[05:29] <astro76> albert`, I've also found the feisty livecd has a nasty habit of automounting as gparted is operating, causing the operation to fail... I would honestly recommend SystemRescueCD instead for gparted
[05:29] <albert`> astro76: OK I will go unmount now. But I now see locks beside all my partitions after trying to create that logical
[05:29] <xtknight> n2diy, probably a loopback device
[05:29] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, did you reinstall grub correctly?
[05:29] <nickrud> osxdude|lap, can't have someone saying what they're not, can we?
[05:29] <envi0us> Anyone use ircII?
[05:29] <astro76> albert`, probably so if they're mounted
[05:29] <Industry> Hey everyone
[05:29] <albert`> astro76: Ok is it easier to use? I've been trying to fix my PC problems since 8 and don't really want to go use a new prog if not necessary, although thanks for the rec.
[05:29] <LordArtemis> I'm trying to install xubuntu from the alternate install CD and it's hung at 85% at the "Select and install software" thing
[05:29] <albert`> astro76: Ok
[05:30] <osxdude|lap> nickrud: yes :P
[05:30] <LordArtemis> (right after xubuntu-desktop)
[05:30] <LordArtemis> It says Please wait... and has been like that for hours.
[05:30] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: grub; root (hd0,0) {as it's sda1 now}; setup (hd0)
[05:30] <LordArtemis> anyone have any ideas/
[05:30] <LordArtemis> ?
[05:30] <Maxdamantus> It should be setup(hd0,0)
[05:30] <n2diy> xtknight: The only way I know is to issue an atz command, but how do you address the port? I can do it with kppp, but from the cli, I'm clueless.
[05:30] <Industry> Could someone point me to a good resource for learning Ubuntu Server.  Or just plain old Command line linux in general
[05:30] <xtknight> n2diy, again no idea
[05:30] <froyd> can anybody tell me how my baterry running out screw up my xorg.conf on my laptop
[05:30] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: but then it won't write to the mbr, will it?
[05:30] <Maxdamantus> Yes, it will.
[05:31] <BillTheFish> Having a little trouble installing a game.. I'm running Kubuntu, though i think this is more of a linux issue.. asked around in the kubuntu channel already but no one could help me.. it says that i don't have enough space to decompress the package in /tmp and i should consider setting TMPDIR to a directory with more free space.. How would i go about doing that?
[05:31] <Maxdamantus> It tells it where to boot from.
[05:31] <nickrud> n2diy, xtknight minicom is a good client for that
[05:31] <astro76> albert`, it's the same gparted, and the cd is pretty self explanatory, just type startx when you get to the prompt, then right click on desktop and pick gparted
[05:31] <Maxdamantus> Well, where to find the /boot/grub directory.
[05:31] <n2diy> xtknight: we're on the bleeding edge man! Or we need to RTFM?
[05:31] <voidmage> anyone know what's up with nvidia drivers and:
[05:31] <voidmage> ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:31] <zerokill88> anyone familiar with   PRO/Wireless 4965AGN
[05:31] <zerokill88> ?
[05:31] <astro76> albert`, small 100MB download too
[05:31] <n2diy> nickrud: will minicom confirm your talking to a com port, if no device is attached?
[05:32] <Industry> Where is a great place to learn more about just using CLI?
[05:32] <pi_i810> there's a green bar of crap at the bottom when i do video playback, but i'm not sure how to call it to start looking for solutions http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4t6yb85
[05:32] <nickrud> n2diy, not sure ... I just caught your need to do a at command
[05:32] <voidmage> anyone know what's up with the latest nvidia drivers and: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:32] <albert`> astro76: Since I am on the CD, it would be ok to unmount everything right?
[05:33] <astro76> albert`, correct
[05:33] <LordArtemis> anyone have any idea what might be causing my problem?
[05:33] <nj786> i cannot see some web pages because it requires flash
[05:33] <Industry> could someone help me please
[05:33] <Industry> just need some info
[05:33] <voidmage> !anyone | industry
[05:33] <ubotu> industry: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:34] <nickrud> Industry, tldp.org
[05:34] <voidmage>  Ubuntu kernel module problem? Ask in #ubuntu
[05:34] <voidmage> er
[05:34] <astro76> !cli | Industry
[05:34] <ubotu> Industry: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:34] <voidmage> anyone know what's up with the latest nvidia drivers and: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:34] <albert`> astro76: Do you know why I cannot move my dev/sdc3 which is my ext3 ubuntu partition
[05:34] <albert`> astro76: But I can move the swap file. btw, everything is unmounted
[05:34] <Industry> thanks
[05:35] <Industry> I know how to get into the terminal.  I just want to run a server without a GUI
[05:35] <n2diy> nickrud: roger that. I've played with minicom quite a bit, running an external modem now, thanks to it, but it is the modem that sends the ok reply. If nothing was connected to the port, there would be no reply. But, ah ha, if nothing is connected to the port, the port config doesn't matter, does it! :)
[05:35] <Industry> so i want to get into the nitty gritty
[05:35] <LordArtemis> does anyone know why the xubuntu alternate install disc would hang 85% through the "Select and install software" part?  It's right after it installs the xubuntu-desktop package.
[05:35] <nj786> some of the qwebsites i go to require flash
[05:35] <astro76> albert`, hmm apparently you can only move fat16, fat32 and linux-swap (in gparted menu, features)
[05:35] <nj786> can anybody give me a sudo command
[05:35] <albert`> astro76: Ok I am going to download that CD. Everything is pretty much straight-forward rite?
[05:36] <voidmage> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:36] <nickrud> n2diy, true. there's a program to work with the serial port, setserial. I haven't used it much and not in years, maybe that can help. (pokes into the dark)
[05:36] <lietu> Industry: I guess the ubuntu server cd does that?
[05:36] <jmad9801> how do you configure xorg
[05:36] <CorpseFeeder> anyone here know about fixing nvidia driver problems?
[05:36] <Jeeebus> hey are there any tips for speeding up gnome? everything is sluggish after adding beryl (the root of the sluggish problem no doubt)
[05:36] <astro76> albert`, yeah but you still won't be able to move that ext3
[05:36] <voidmage> is it anyone know what's up with the latest nvidia drivers and: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:36] <voidmage> (sorry, that was pasted for easy access)
[05:37] <n2diy> nj786: sudo updatedb, but it will slow you down will it does it's thing, and may take a while, depending on the size of your hard drive.
[05:37] <albert`> astro76: Meaning if I want to use that unallocated after the ubuntu and swap, I would have to reinstall ubuntu...
[05:37] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: I just went into grub shell and ran "root (0,0)" then "setup (0,0)". grub returned success status.
[05:37] <lietu> jmad9801: depends on what you mean with configuring
[05:37] <voidmage> Jeeebus: does the installer complain about NVIDIA kernel module filename?
[05:37] <astro76> albert`, you could make a new ext3 where you want it, then copy all the files
[05:37] <jmad9801> turning on graphics acceleration
[05:37] <nj786> n2diy: is there another command?
[05:37] <Maxdamantus> oleksa, so, does it boot GRUB?
[05:37] <nickrud> nj786, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Flash
[05:37] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: I'm going to try rebooting from this live cd right now
[05:37] <albert`> astro76: Is there any way I can do this without reinstalling Ubuntu? I don't think just copying the files will still keep the OS running
[05:38] <madman91> HELP!?!?.. none of the files in ~/bin execute by default from the terminal (they are set to exec allowed)
[05:38] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: into the hd install
[05:38] <Maxdamantus> Ok, good luck.
[05:38] <oleksa> Maxdamantus: Thanks!
[05:38] <astro76> albert`, actually it should if it's done properly
[05:38] <CorpseFeeder> I upgraded the nvidia driver from 96xx to 71xx legacy drivers.. and now nvidia-settings is giving "The OpenGL extension 'GLX' is not supported by the X server or there was a problem retrieving GLX information from the X server." under the "Open GL/GLX info" tab. How do I fix?
[05:38] <Jeeebus> voidmage, i don't remember, i installed it like a week ago. ive just noticed gnome has been progressively slower and was wondering if theres any kind of settings i can play with ti speed it up?
[05:38] <astro76> albert`, oh.. the sysrescuecd also has partimage on it, that would make it easy
[05:38] <voidmage> Jeeebus: sorry, wrong nick
[05:39] <n2diy> nickrud: ah yes, haven't played with setserial in years either.
[05:39] <voidmage> anyone know what's up with the latest nvidia drivers and: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ?
[05:39] <albert`> astro76: Woah. So I simply make a new ext3. Copy all files, and my Ubuntu will work? The only problem I think will be the GRUBLoader, since I run Vista, XP, and Ubuntu on this PC
[05:39] <nj786> nickrud: doesnt help
[05:39] <n2diy> nj786: let me think.
[05:39] <nickrud> nj786, why not? it explains about enabling proposed-updates & installing flashplugin-nonfree
[05:39] <astro76> albert`, i'd look into partimage, and grub might need to be fixed afterwards but that's easy
[05:40] <LordArtemis> I'm trying to install xubuntu with the alternate install disc and it hangs every time 85% through the "Select and install software" part.  It's right after it installs the xubuntu-desktop package.  I have 128 MB RAM  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:40] <albert`> astro76: Lol I am a complete Ubuntu noob. I wouldn't know how to fix it =(
[05:40] <astro76> albert`, we can help! ;)
[05:40] <jmad9801> any one know how to configure graphics acceleration  on a video card
[05:40] <nickrud> madman91, in ~/.bashrc there should be a section with # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists,
[05:40] <DennisTT> Where can I enable dual-monitor display in ubuntu?
[05:40] <flodine> help please i have 18.1 mbps download speed but soon as i turn on firestarter it slows to 2 mbps can someone help
[05:41] <madman91> nickrud: aha! thanks
[05:41] <nickrud> !xinerama | DennisTT
[05:41] <ubotu> DennisTT: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[05:41] <n2diy> nj786: you could play with chmod, on I file you can sacrifice if things get AFU?
[05:41] <nickrud> madman91, yw
[05:41] <voidmage> madman91: SHOULD just have to mkdir ~/bin and restart your session
If you are trying to use the latest driver for NVIDIA and have an older one installed in  kernel module. You need to delete the one and install the newest module ... I believe there is one on line I had a coworker explain it to me in the passing.
[05:41] <nj786> n2diy: screw that lol
[05:41] <DennisTT> !DualHead
[05:41] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[05:41] <madman91> voidmage: but it doesnt work.. none of them execute
[05:41] <albert`> astro76: Nice =D. Do you suggest I use partimage or gparted when I burn the CD and use it
[05:41] <nj786> n2diy: ubuntu sometimes pisses me off
[05:41] <voidmage> madman91: must be commented out in .bashrc like nickrud said
[05:41] <voidmage> trelous: pretty sure i don't
[05:42] <madman91> voidmage: its not.. cant i just inserT?
[05:42] <n2diy> nj786: what are you trying to do?
[05:42] <Plantain> How do I make something run on startup?
[05:42] <trelous>  <voidmage> I should say I beleive there is a walk threw online if you google it ... if I get a chance I will see if I can find it.
[05:42] <Plantain> That is, a commandline application
[05:42] <nj786> n2diy: im trying to go o na website but it require flash
[05:42] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, add a script to /etc/init.d
[05:42] <Plantain> A script?
[05:42] <voidmage> madman91: check in .profile
[05:42] <astro76> albert`, both... partimage just for the partition that can't be moved in parted
[05:42] <Plantain> Isn't there something I could just append it to?
[05:42] <madman91> voidmage: ~/.profile ?
[05:42] <albert`> astro76: Thanks, nmow burning cd
[05:42] <jmad9801> how do you con figure x i
[05:42] <voidmage> madman91: yeah
[05:42] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, If you call the script "helloworld", then enter this into the terminal as root: rc-update add helloworld default
[05:42] <nickrud> madman91, there's a three line fragment that follows the line I gave, is it there?
[05:43] <jmad9801> how do you con figure x
[05:43] <nj786> n2diy: www.toyota.com/
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, just make a seperate script, it's easy.
[05:43] <madman91> nickrud: there is no #path or anything
[05:43] <lietu> jmad9801: define configure
[05:43] <lietu> ermh
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> Or a symlink.
[05:43] <voidmage> if [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then
[05:43] <voidmage>     PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[05:43] <voidmage> fi
[05:43] <nickrud> madman91, let me pm you the lines
[05:43] <Plantain> Maxdamantus: Sooo, what should be in the script? I guess it's Bash for a start
[05:43] <jmad9801> graphics acceleration
[05:43] <nickrud> or not :)
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> Yea, you could just make a symlink.
[05:43] <madman91> nickrud: looks like voidimage just did :)
[05:43] <lietu> jmad9801: to turn on graphics acceleration you need the drivers for your graphics card most propably
[05:43] <Maxdamantus> Plantain: Is what you want a command already?
[05:44] <madman91> nickrud: put that into .bashrc?
[05:44] <n2diy> nj786: ok, be careful, I gave up on Flash plug ins, the killed this box last year, when I tried installing them. The bare metal recovery took three days.
[05:44] <nickrud> madman91, yes
[05:44] <lietu> install nvidia/ati restricted drivers, they should configure X for you
[05:44] <DennisTT> I think I need some help installing Ubuntu.  I can't see the bottom of the Install screen, but I can't change the resolution higher than 800x600 :S
[05:44] <Plantain> Maxdamantus: Yes, it's an IP update command
[05:44] <albert`> astro76: How much longer will you be online for?
[05:44] <nickrud> madman91, then     source .bashrc
[05:44] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, does it require any arguments?
[05:44] <Plantain> Yes
[05:44] <Maxdamantus> Then make it a simple bash script.
[05:44] <madman91> nickrud: woot! thank you thank thank you
[05:44] <BillTheFish> how does one execute a .run file through the terminal?
[05:44] <madman91> voidmage:  woot! thank you thank thank you
[05:44] <jmad9801> it has it in the kde configure in kubunutu but doesn't say anything about the acceleration
[05:44] <Jeeebus> anyone know of any websites to optimize gnome? i noticed today that it runs much slower than my windows installation
[05:44] <nickrud> madman91, yw
[05:44] <reanjr> Whenever I run totem my desktop background image gets set to the GNOME one (which I have disabled in application settings: /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop).  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:44] <n2diy> nj786: any meaning to your nick?
[05:45] <lietu> BillTheFish: chmod +x file.run; ./file.run
[05:45] <jmad9801> reanjr install kde
[05:45] <astro76> albert`, can't really guarantee anything. ;) probably a couple of hours, and I'm sure you'll find others who can help too
[05:45] <lousygarua> Plantain: Maxdamantus: writing shell scripts in python is more fun :)
[05:45] <reanjr> jmad9801: I don't use GNOME, I'm not about to start using KDE
[05:45] <Maxdamantus> Plantain, you can just do something like: #!/bin/bash<newline>myipupdatecommand some arguments
[05:45] <lietu> Plantain: you could add it to /etc/rc.local
[05:45] <BillTheFish> Thanks lietu
[05:45] <Maxdamantus> Where <newline> is a new line. :P
[05:45] <mactimes> Hey there
[05:45] <albert`> astro76: Ok thanks lol. I asked 4 times b4, and u answered on my 4th time asking xD
[05:45] <mactimes> Hello Human Beings!
[05:46] <bruenig> !hi | mactimes
[05:46] <Maxdamantus> Oh, Ubuntu doesn't even have rc-update.
[05:46] <ubotu> mactimes: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:46] <jmad9801> you run both on linux
[05:46] <CorpseFeeder> Anyone encountered this and know how to fix it? "The OpenGL extension 'GLX' is not supported by the X server or there was a problem retrieving GLX information from the X server."
[05:46] <jmad9801> also they share libs
[05:46] <astro76> Maxdamantus, you mean update-rc.d ?
[05:46] <nickrud> Maxdamantus, you mean update-rc.d?
[05:46] <RedMage> I need to write a bash script to delete files that are ten days old from a folder
[05:46] <astro76> hehe
[05:47] <lietu> RedMage: try #bash