[06:03] <siorfin> had to do that to empty trash other day
[06:04] <nalioth> xfSx: others, be very careful starting nautilus as root, it has no manners about some things
[06:04] <xfSx> k
[06:04] <siorfin> i assume you know not to delete something that is needed :)
[06:04] <catfox> is beagle in breezy?
[06:04] <nalioth> catfox: yes
[06:05] <catfox> nalioth, ooh. now i want to run breezy
[06:06] <nalioth> catfox: go buy (or borrow) and extra beige box, join the dev mailing list and rock on
[06:06] <Rockett17> hey
[06:06] <Groverman> Hi Rockett17
[06:06] <antraxx_> kann mri wer helfen .bin dateien zu installieren ?
[06:07] <nalioth> antraxx_: en #ubuntu-de, bitte
[06:07] <nalioth> antraxx_: odor englisch hier
[06:07] <jamey3> What other desktop environments, apart from Gnome and XFCE work well with Ubuntu?
[06:07] <nalioth> jamey3: any of them
[06:07] <siorfin> kde works
[06:07] <adwait> jamey3: any
[06:07] <jamey3> I don't like KDE, sorry.
[06:08] <adwait> jamey3: kde/xpdf/....
[06:08] <Groverman> jamey3, I use Window-Maker and Openbox3
[06:08] <adwait> *xpde
[06:08] <siorfin> is xfce better than gnome? never used it
[06:08] <six2one> its mac like
[06:08] <jamey3> siorfin: if you get used to it, I think it would be great.
[06:08] <jamey3> yeah it is.
[06:08] <adwait> siorfin: it is a lot easier on sys resources
[06:08] <SDFH_Linux> hows xpde?
[06:08] <jamey3> It's quite sexy with the right themes.
[06:08] <siorfin> yeah it looked simpler
[06:08] <jamey3> OMG not XPde
[06:08] <adwait> xpde = like windows xp
[06:08] <jamey3> which means
[06:08] <jamey3> shitty
[06:08] <adwait> lol
[06:08] <jamey3> lol seriously
[06:08] <adwait> with child like colours straight of a nursery
[06:09] <jamey3> ugh
[06:09] <jamey3> despite the GUI, I am always reverting to the shell lmao
[06:09] <six2one> is anyone here running breezy colony 2...or has ran it?
[06:10] <adwait> jamey3: for everyday tasks GUI
[06:10] <siorfin> here is a question what is with all the animal names
[06:10] <adwait> is easier/faster
[06:10] <siorfin> hoary, breezy badger, etc
[06:10] <Hieronymus> siorfin: ask the sabdfl
[06:10] <adwait> siorfin: hmm......some wierd fascination with the powers tht be
[06:10] <elekis> X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h that say soething to somebody??
[06:10] <jamey3> adwait: no no I mean I am always using the shell where a GUI would probably be more productive (i.e. launching a shell window, not changing TTY)
[06:10] <elekis> I have a comil error
[06:11] <arandom> hi all
[06:11] <Rockett17> yeah really.. I can see why it may be useful for Linux n00bs, but they are never going to really learn Linux if it looks and works like a winbox. I coudln't stand having my Linux box not feeling and looking like Linux.
[06:11] <adwait> jamey3: ahh........
[06:11] <catfox> nalioth, i've got a spare box i dont use much. guess i could try it out. i tried suse 9.3 out, loved half of it, but hated the other half :) beagle was cool
[06:11] <siorfin> think ill try installing xfce tonight i saw ss's of it and liked it
[06:11] <nalioth> siorfin: you are not waiting for the ubuntu release of "stinky skunk"?
[06:11] <siorfin> dsl uses it i think or atleast it looks like it
[06:11] <Rockett17> xfce 4.2 is sweet
[06:11] <arandom> anybody know how to install Ubuntu on a machine without a bootable CD drive?
[06:11] <nalioth> catfox: sure thing, sounds good
[06:11] <adwait> arandom: with boot floppes
[06:12] <Hieronymus> arandom: network
[06:12] <adwait> *floppies
[06:12] <siorfin> boot floppies?
[06:12] <siorfin> lol
[06:12] <adwait> u can't?
[06:12] <catfox> anyone here up to speed on the usplash developments? i've never much cared for it, but since trying out suse and seeing their boot process, i need one too :)
[06:12] <arandom> okay how do I create a ubuntu boot floppy
[06:12] <auk> arandom: bootable floppy
[06:12] <auk> oh i see how it is.!
[06:13] <Hieronymus> catfox: Is the suse 9.3 boot process different/better than the .2 one?
[06:13] <jamey3> What's a good virtual machine emulator for Linux? I want to run a mini Linux within Ubuntu. :)
[06:13] <Albaraha> Is there any app like Babylon (in windows) to right-click a word and translate it?
[06:13] <siorfin> i didnt care for suse\
[06:13] <six2one> gangly giraffe or lanky lama
[06:13] <jasoncohen> one of the backport servers is down (<IP_ADDRESS>). I added "<IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu-backports.mirromax.net" to /etc/hosts to fix this issue but it only seems to resolve the problem for apt-get and not the Update Manager. why is this?
[06:13] <Hieronymus> six2one: ?
[06:14] <siorfin> did you do apt-get update after adding new server?
[06:14] <six2one> Hieronymus: just some ubuntu names i was thinking of
[06:14] <jasoncohen> siorfin, i didn't add a new server. i just added an alias in /etc/hosts so it uses the correct IP
[06:14] <catfox> Hieronymus, never saw the .2 one. but .3 is really nice looking. i like how their grub -> boot -> login looks consistent.
[06:14] <siorfin> ah
[06:15] <adwait> albraha: i believe there is an extension for firefox
[06:15] <Hieronymus> six2one: Treenaks had a nice one: Sinkin' Seahorse
[06:15] <six2one> haha, thats the best
[06:15] <jamey3> Anyone know a good virtual machine for Linux?
[06:15] <six2one> qemu
[06:15] <six2one> qemu
[06:16] <Hieronymus> catfox: Do you have a screenshot lyin' somewhere?
[06:16] <jamey3> thanks six2one
[06:16] <catfox> Hieronymus, afraid not.
[06:16] <Ilomoga> Does someone know OpenTTD?
[06:17] <siorfin> https://addons.mozilla.org/quicksearch.php?q=translate&section=A
[06:17] <jasoncohen> that's the correct syntax- right "<IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu-backports.mirromax.net
[06:17] <jasoncohen> without the quotations of course
[06:17] <Hieronymus> Ilomoga: heard of it
[06:17] <catfox> sorry for all the questions...but is there a way of testing a kernel before you boot it? i've read about xen, but doesn't look easy to set up
[06:17] <Albaraha> Is there any app running in GNOME?
[06:17] <Hieronymus> Ilomoga: why?
[06:17] <Ilomoga> i've got a little problem when i try to play online, i think it's the firewall
[06:18] <six2one> jamey3: the 0.6.0 or whatever in the repos doesnt work too well with NT based windows, but can run linux ok. the one im using with 2000, 2003, xp, 98, knoppix 3.8.1, breezy colony 2 is 0.7.0
[06:18] <Ilomoga> i can load a server list but can't load a game
[06:18] <adwait> Ilomoga: try turning the firewall off?
[06:18] <siorfin> what game?
[06:18] <jamey3> six2one: cool thanks. I'm going to be running LFS hopefully.  It's not in the repos
[06:19] <adwait> Ilomoga: if u didnt expressly turn it on, its off by  defauly
[06:19] <siorfin> there isnt a firewall installed by default for ubuntu is there?
[06:19] <adwait> *default
[06:19] <Ilomoga> i don't know
[06:19] <six2one> jamey3: i see no reason why that wouldnt work. the only think better than running linux is running linux thats running linux! :)
[06:19] <adwait> u didnt add any rules to iptables did u?
[06:19] <Ilomoga> so it's not the firewall
[06:19] <adwait> nope
[06:20] <Ilomoga> i hardly changed or installed anything
[06:20] <adwait> Ilomoga: is it a windows game? if so, u running it with wine?
[06:20] <Ilomoga> only some software and samba and such things
[06:20] <Medrakil> i'm having some trouble here.. rhythmbox won't import my mp3's, and xmms won't play them (crashes).. i have installed tons of mp3-related libs and codecs and stuff, none did it.. and btw system sounds play just fine, it's not that..
[06:20] <Ilomoga> it's an open source game
[06:20] <adwait> Medrakil: did u apt-get gstreamer?
[06:20] <Ilomoga> for any os
[06:20] <jasoncohen> yeah- this is weird. apt-get seems to use my /etc/hosts setting but not synaptic or update manager
[06:20] <six2one> Medraki: try turning off the sound server
[06:20] <robotgeek> Medrakil: can u try playing it with vlc
[06:21] <chodapp> I just tried to install Gentoo.
[06:21] <adwait> Ilomoga: hmm
[06:21] <chodapp> There are now CD shards sitting on my floor.
[06:21] <reka> Medrakil: xmms problem: change the output plugin to esound
[06:21] <Medrakil> adwait, that's not a package
[06:21] <chodapp> Ubuntu seems good so far...
[06:21] <Ilomoga> adwait: it's not the router because it works with windows or fedora and it works, too
[06:21] <auk> chodap: i did that just last week
[06:21] <adwait> !gstreamer
[06:21] <ubotu> adwait: Are you smoking crack?
[06:21] <Ilomoga> i mean i tried with win....
[06:21] <Ilomoga> :)
[06:21] <chodapp> auk, tried to install it, or shattered the CDs?
[06:21] <auk> tried to install it
[06:21] <adwait> ug......Medrakil, tr apt-cache search gstreamer
[06:21] <auk> did n't quite go that far
[06:22] <adwait> *try
[06:22] <six2one> Medraki: System---> Prefs-----> Sound possibly?
[06:22] <adwait> Ilomoga: hmm...beats me :), pretty much a newbie too :)
[06:22] <chodapp> auk, I needed uudecode to compile Madwifi drivers so I could get on the network. All the help in the channel revolved around 'emerge' this and that, and I didn't have net access, and the rest was just a giant mess.
[06:22] <six2one> Medraki: my thinkpad did the same thing until i turned off the sound server and now works good
[06:22] <Ilomoga> adwait: no prob, thanks for trying to help :)
[06:22] <robotgeek> chodapp: :)
[06:22] <chodapp> I've been on Slackware, but Slamd64 didn't work, and Slackware has no official 32-bit port
[06:23] <Medrakil> adwait, i think i have it
[06:23] <Ilomoga> another question - what do i have to do to get sound working without switching the gnome sound server off when i want to play a game?
[06:23] <chodapp> Ubuntu is Debian-based then?
[06:23] <adwait> Medrakil: i think libstreamer is the one
[06:23] <adwait> *libgstreamer
[06:23] <chodapp> Will it accomodate my needs to compile from source like crazy?
[06:23] <Ilomoga> chodapp: yes :)
[06:23] <Ilomoga> its debian-based
[06:23] <robotgeek> six2one: i had to modprobe the oss module
[06:23] <chodapp> Is it trivial to make most kernels work with it?
[06:23] <auk> chodapp: lol, i lost steam when i couldn' tget a package i needed (absolutely mandatory one) off the web (i was using an oldish cd i got from a book)
[06:24] <adwait> Medrakil: try gstreamer-properties and ask it to use ALSA/ESD
[06:24] <chodapp> auk, I had new CDs, and the handbook basically lost me when it didn't say anything about how to do networkless installation.
[06:24] <adwait> is xmms working now tht u chagned the output plugin to ESD (thru xmms itself)
[06:24] <adwait> ?
[06:24] <jasoncohen> hey look at this- apparently not all backports devs are morons. Another backports developer saw my forum post about how konversation broke kubuntu-desktop by depending on kdelibs4 3.4.1 and he immediately rebuilt it to depend on 3.4.0. the update is now in backports.
[06:24] <Medrakil> adwait, it's set for ESD
[06:24] <jasoncohen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47258
[06:24] <chodapp> auk, I'm a Slackware veteran, I'm used to having a full system from a CD that requires no configuration
[06:24] <adwait> Medrakil: xmms? or gstreamer?
[06:25] <chodapp> auk,well, that requires a lot of configuration, but not a lot of extra crap to be installed
[06:25] <Medrakil> gstreamer
[06:25] <adwait> is xmms working?
[06:25] <robotgeek> Medrakil: I guess i'll let you try the rest till I bombard u with a things to do list :)
[06:25] <six2one> robotgeek: i had to do that on a desktop with an older board in it. It also kept looping the drum roll when ubuntu comes to login over and over and over. even with the sounds disabled. so i moved all the system .wav files to another directory and all is well :)
[06:25] <chodapp> but I have a feeling I'll be coming back here a lot to ask questions, at least initially.
[06:25] <ramblingturtle23> any suggestions on a good alternative to k3b?
[06:25] <auk> i just started with linux and all the world of nerds and geeks ~six months ago
[06:25] <six2one> xcdrost
[06:25] <chodapp> ramblingturtle23, xcdroast, gtoaster
[06:26] <six2one> xcdroast
[06:26] <Ilomoga> nero linux maybe?
[06:26] <Hieronymus> Ilomoga: no
[06:26] <Medrakil> yayy xmms works now :D
[06:26] <ramblingturtle23> thanks ill look into those
[06:26] <Groverman> ramblingturtle23, graveman !!!!
[06:26] <Hieronymus> gnomebaker
[06:26] <Hieronymus> graveman
[06:26] <auk> ubuntu is my first and only distro. been meaning to try others, though
[06:26] <Ilomoga> Hieronymus: what no?
[06:26] <Medrakil> adwait: thanks a lot, but what about rhythmbox?
[06:26] <reka> jasoncohen: well done :)
[06:26] <Hieronymus> Ilomoga: no nero for gnu/linux
[06:26] <adwait> Medrakil: good...hmm......wht error does it give whn it refuses to import mp3s?
[06:26] <Ilomoga> Hieronymus: why?
[06:27] <Medrakil> adwait, no plugin to handle it, i think
[06:27] <adwait> Medrakil: thts odd.....u hv gstreamer
[06:27] <adwait> :S
[06:27] <Groverman> auk, you should. I am torn between slack and ubuntu. i could not choose so i have a dual installation :-)
[06:27] <dougsk> wow! enterprise Ubuntu!
[06:27] <robotgeek> adwait,Medrakil : i had the same problem...now lemme try to recollect what I did!
[06:27] <Rockett17> I tried Xandros, Mandrake, RedHat, SuSE, Fedora, Knoppix, Yoper and finally landed on Ubuntu.. and was like "perfect!"  :D thanks for the telepathic-magic-over-IP (tm) help xD
[06:29] <Rockett17> ditto Groverman.. and I always had problems with network cards being supported
[06:29] <six2one> you have to do so much to get it to work with the intel ipw2XXX drivers and what not....ubuntu is install and go
[06:29] <robotgeek> Medrakil: may the force be with you!
[06:29] <adwait> Medrakil: take a look at this as wellhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple+sounds
[06:29] <siorfin> i had to do a ton of work to get my centrino wokring in ubuntu
[06:29] <six2one> what laptop?
[06:29] <adwait> Medrakil: thts for multiple sounds to work.....not really wht important, but related, and most ppl starting off want it :)
[06:30] <siorfin> presario x1200
[06:30] <robotgeek> adwait: i came to the decision that multiple sounds suck, most of the time :)
[06:30] <siorfin> after a week of futzing with it it all of a sudden started working
[06:30] <six2one> ahhh..im on a T40p, do you have the intel wifi or broadcom?
[06:30] <siorfin> after that i havent touched it lol
[06:30] <D1> but after all that work, isn't it all worth it?
[06:30] <adwait> robotgeek: why?
[06:31] <D1> I had to do a few things to get my lappie working, but now its perfect.
[06:31] <adwait> robotgeek: come to think of it the only multiple sounds i hear are if i play two players / music + ubuntu sounds
[06:31] <siorfin> its worth it not going back to winblows but honestly that is a major turn off for anyone who isnt a geek and just wants it to work
[06:31] <Groverman> Rockett17, Slack is such a breeze on old hardware it is amazing. Ubuntu rocks on new hardware.  How can I change that?
[06:31] <six2one> the only thing i had was xmms or any other prog to play sound without crashing and then i turned off the sound server and now everything works
[06:32] <robotgeek> adwait: my laptop is kinda old, so it doesn't really handle mutliple stuff well :)
[06:32] <adwait> robotgeek: hmm......the tutorial said to turn sound server off, but i turned it on anyway....and somehow i get ubuntu sounds now :)
[06:32] <adwait> robotgeek : k :)
[06:32] <virtuald> Ilomoga: turn off dead keys in keyboard properties
[06:32] <six2one> the system sounds use the soundserver
[06:32] <robotgeek> adwait: particularly good feature when u play video with sound!
[06:32] <six2one> but somehow it can conflict with xmms and what not
[06:32] <six2one> not all the time
[06:32] <adwait> robotgeek: hmm
[06:33] <siorfin> i followed a couple of howtos on the ubuntu forums and everything works flawlessly
[06:33] <siorfin> for sound
[06:33] <robotgeek> it's a pain to get the gtkpbbuttons to work properly...
[06:33] <anacron> what difference there is if i start using 64bit version of ubuntu, when i buy new computer?
[06:33] <ralc> how do i make a shortcut to a folder?
[06:33] <siorfin> basically switching from oss to alsa
[06:33] <anacron> ralc: i think it was nautilus /folder
[06:34] <six2one> i will never get any other notebook than a thinkpad
[06:34] <robotgeek> i need to document what I do...it works, then goes back to not working again!
[06:34] <adwait> ralc: short cut? like a link? or like windows short cut, double click and the folder opens?
[06:34] <six2one> put it in a wiki!
[06:34] <robotgeek> six2one: how abt a powerbook :)
[06:34] <ralc> adwait, double click and the folder opens
[06:34] <anacron> ralc: did you try what i said?
[06:35] <six2one> robotgeek: ok......you have a point....but the same company makes them both now dont they? they both have the activeprotection and what not. lol
[06:35] <adwait> ralc: for panel rich click>add to panel>custom launcher....then wht anacron said, nautilus /folder
[06:35] <leiden_ik> who developed ubuntu
[06:35] <leiden_ik> im' sory' im new?
[06:35] <ralc> anacron, ahh now i see what you mean :)
[06:35] <six2one> robotgeek: for basic linux support and nothing special i will take a thinkpad, if i had a powerbook i would leave OSX on it!
[06:35] <adwait> ralc: for desktop....right click on desktop and create and launcher and then the same
[06:36] <ralc> adwait/anacron if i want the shortcut in a folder?
[06:36] <robotgeek> six2one: i started hating fink :)
[06:36] <adwait> ralc: why would u want that?
[06:36] <anacron> ralc: then make a shortcut to a desktop, and same thing?
[06:36] <siorfin> i wouldnt buy a mac of any kind
[06:36] <siorfin> i hate macs
[06:36] <anacron> what's wrong with macs?
[06:36] <robotgeek> siorfin: why?
[06:36] <siorfin> gimme a pc that i can get working with linux and im happy
[06:36] <six2one> they have some good hardware
[06:36] <anacron> adwait: what do you use then?
[06:36] <nerull> Lo can anyone help me out here i got a huge apt problem :S
[06:37] <siorfin> im racist against mac, no particular reason
[06:37] <six2one> i have fedora on a dual 450 G4 right now
[06:37] <adwait> anacron: for folders and stuff i just stick to the terminal....faster/easier/more effecient
[06:37] <anacron> adwait: well that's true
[06:37] <adwait> nerull: somebody might.....if u actually told us wht the problem is
[06:37] <nerull> Look it's like this i cannot find some packages that i can find with the debian version of apt.
[06:37] <robotgeek> siorfin: macs just work
[06:38] <ralc> adwait, i want to make windows like a folder.. hmm my windows is mounted in /media/windows and my private stuff's in /ralc.. and i want a shortcut in /ralc that points to the windows mount
[06:38] <six2one> i will say that sometimes i get bored with them, but its like having a sailboat or something you use some of the time...lol
[06:38] <anacron> i usually do that too, but if im watching something like tv series, it's nice to see those thumbnails so you know which one of them you have already seen, if you don't remember the number...
[06:38] <jasoncohen> lol, i don't get backports. they put acroread, acroread-plugins, and mozilla-acroread in hoary-extras even though acroread 7 is in breezy
[06:38] <adwait> ralc: umm....why not make a shortcut on the desktop itself
[06:39] <adwait> ralc: i am not sure u can create a laumcher (as it is called in linux) in a folder
[06:39] <nerull> Look it's like this i cannot find some packages that i can find with the debian version of apt. The packages i am looking for are mc and klibido
[06:39] <reka> nerull: debian version of apt?
[06:39] <robotgeek> klibido?? lol!
[06:39] <jasoncohen> nerull, you need a universe source
[06:39] <nerull> reka: The apt-software running in debian :)
[06:39] <adwait> nerull: like wht? ur sources are fine?
[06:39] <jasoncohen> nerull, i can't believe mc isn't in main though...how nuts
[06:40] <reka> mc in is universe
[06:40] <reka> *is in
[06:40] <ralc> adwait, okay but i used your method and it works just perfect, thanks :)
[06:40] <jasoncohen> it should be in main
[06:40] <nerull> So what sources should i use ?
[06:40] <robotgeek> is mc midnight commander?
[06:40] <adwait> nerull: hb u enabled universe/multiverse in etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <adwait> ralc: np :)
[06:40] <nerull> Indeed robotgeek
[06:40] <jasoncohen> nerull, go into /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all lines with universe/multiverse
[06:40] <nerull> adwait i dont think so :)
[06:40] <nerull> I did that :)
[06:40] <robotgeek> okie
[06:40] <jasoncohen> nerull, uncomment all deb lines and run apt-get update
[06:40] <nerull> Did so...
[06:41] <reka> nerull: ready-to-use sources.list: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:41] <adwait> nerull: could u paste ur sources.list to paste bin
[06:41] <nerull> Sure hold on
[06:41] <jasoncohen> reka, any idea why mc is in universe. i love mcedit
[06:42] <reka> jasoncohen: can't say.  never used it meself.
[06:42] <steve_> someone use his TV out ?
[06:42] <adwait> steve_: lemme guess.......on a powerpc with dual head?
[06:42] <nerull> I cant paste it with xchat :S
[06:43] <SDFH_Linux> no but i noticed on debian they came out with a tool for the nvidia cards
[06:43] <six2one> hey, whats the command to run the X config?
[06:43] <steve_> on a simply pc
[06:43] <nerull> adwait is it okay if i dcc it to u ?
[06:43] <jasoncohen> steve_, i do
[06:43] <six2one> i cant remember
[06:43] <adwait> nerull: no u paste it at pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:43] <jasoncohen> nerull, middle click
[06:43] <robotgeek> adwait: if someone documents this properly, i will get mine working
[06:43] <adwait> nerull: yeah u cann dcc it
[06:43] <jasoncohen> nerull, paste in pastebin and gives us the link
[06:43] <nimda-> some tips now before I install ubuntu? linux is new to me...
[06:43] <steve_> what kind of graphics card, better nvidia or ati
[06:44] <reka> six2one: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <nimda-> with partitions and so on
[06:44] <SDFH_Linux> nvtv is the debian package for the tv out thing for nvidia cards
[06:44] <jasoncohen> steve_, i've done tv-out with both
[06:44] <adwait> robotgeek: ?? document wht?
[06:44] <SDFH_Linux> tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux
[06:44] <SDFH_Linux> This is a program to control the TV encoder chips on NVidia cards under
[06:44] <SDFH_Linux> Linux, in order to get tv-out with a wide range of resolutions and
[06:44] <SDFH_Linux> sizes, including "overscan" modes. It does even work with the free nv drivers.
[06:44] <dougsk> six2one, the one your prolly looking for is sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p low xserver-xorg
[06:44] <robotgeek> adwait: dual head from power pc
[06:45] <dougsk> reka oh oops I'm slow
[06:45] <adwait> robotgeek: dunno the soln, just tht seen someone else ask it as well.....tried searching/solving but not much
[06:45] <robotgeek> adwait: i need to patch/recompile xorg..i don't want to get into it right now
[06:45] <adwait> oh hey.....i think i found a patch
[06:45] <reka> nimda-: do you have windows currently on it?
[06:45] <steve_> thanks
[06:45] <reka> dougsk: your command seems more complete though :)
[06:45] <adwait> robotgeek: right .....tht day i found an xorg patch
[06:45] <robotgeek> adwait: that was me before :)
[06:45] <adwait> ooh
[06:45] <nerull> adwait : http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/451
[06:47] <adwait> nerull: hmm, maybe u should remove the nl. b4 the url in line 3,4 and try
[06:47] <adwait> remove the nl, save then apt-get update and try then
[06:47] <jasoncohen> can you install anything nerull?
[06:48] <gold> does anyone know how to install blender 3d?
[06:48] <nerull> yeah seasoncohen
[06:48] <gold> its not in synaptic
[06:48] <nerull> I installed apache mysql and some other stuff.
[06:48] <reka> adwait: those are just dutch mirrors.
[06:48] <jasoncohen> so you ran an apt-get update after changing sources.list and it was successful?
[06:48] <fia> i have problems with setting up mysqlserver in ubuntu. whats the simplest way to do it?
[06:48] <adwait> reka: i know.......but i figured maybe somethings wrong with the mirrors
[06:48] <nerull> Okay MC is found now :)_
[06:48] <adwait> anyway....ppl i gotta go for dinner...ill bbl
[06:49] <nerull> I think the dutch mirrors are incomplete ?
[06:49] <jasoncohen> nerull, just stick with the official mirror then
[06:49] <adwait> nerull: thts why i asked u to remove the nl and try :) just trying though.......no idea if thts right
[06:49] <nerull> :)
[06:49] <nerull> Okay thanks all
[06:50] <jasoncohen> weird
[06:50] <mostrodibiscotti> what if my board has onboard raid, and I do raid 0, will ubuntu work with it?
[06:50] <nerull> Jasoncohen i think so to :P
[06:51] <ubunutnewb> I'm having a  problem with my sound card. It doesn't appear to be working/configured properly. Alsa worked fine with it for toher distros. I'm not sure where to go on ubuntu to configure it manually either because alsaconf isn't locatable. Anyone offer some assistance?
[06:52] <ramblingturtle23> maybe we cant change the world but at least we can try to make a dent in it
[06:52] <nerull> Okay but what if i want to run a development or testing release how can i do that ?
[06:53] <athlon> anyone here have any success in watching tv-stream over internet ?
[06:53] <keyshawn> ramblingturtle23, do you mean that you want to beta-test a package in staging ?
[06:53] <Echelon-H> can anyone help me out here with some php code?
[06:53] <athlon> I just cant seem to make realplayer / helix / gxine to display c-span
[06:53] <nerull> Echolon-H shoot
[06:54] <robotgeek> athlon: the mozilla-mplayer plugin seems to work, it freezes a lot
[06:54] <ramblingturtle23> keyshawn- sure i dont know what that means but i am not afraid to reinstall
[06:54] <keyshawn> ramblingturtle23, what do you exactly need help with ?
[06:54] <robotgeek> ubunutnewb:gimme a sec :)
[06:54] <Gourami> evening all, I am about to install Hoary and 2003 server on the same machine, anything I should know before I begin ??
[06:54] <athlon> robotgeek, okay thanks, I'm gonna give it a try
[06:54] <nerull> Gourami dont
[06:54] <Echelon-H> I am trying to use an upload form but it says permission denied.
[06:54] <Gourami> lol
[06:54] <nerull> Keep your system clean ;)
[06:54] <Gourami> no really
[06:55] <Echelon-H> I don't know how to give it a permission
[06:55] <Gourami> I need both
[06:55] <reka> Gourami: 2003 as in windows?
[06:55] <rabies> hi
[06:55] <robotgeek> ubunutnewb: can u run alsamixer ?
[06:55] <Gourami> simply because its IMPOSSIBLE to set up a GPRS internet connection with ubuntu
[06:55] <Gourami> yes reka, 2003 server
[06:55] <nerull> So does anyone knows a binaire(News group) downloader for gnome that i can find with apt ?
[06:56] <reka> Gourami: hav eyou set up partitions already?
[06:56] <reka> *have you
[06:56] <Gourami> no havent done anything yet
[06:56] <Gourami> at the windows partition screen now
[06:57] <reka> Gourami: install windows first
[06:57] <Echelon-H> nerull, got any clue?
[06:57] <Gourami> ok, I have a 30gb which I am going to split 50/50
[06:57] <nerull> Echolon-H no i dont
[06:57] <Gourami> reka can I make ntfs or stick to fat32
[06:57] <reka> Gourami: ah, then leave some space for ubuntu.
[06:57] <skora> nerull, i recommend using pan
[06:57] <reka> Gourami: if you want r/w access then use FAT32.
[06:57] <skora> it's available in the repository.
[06:58] <Gourami> ok thanks...formatting...
[06:58] <nerull> Ropository ?
[06:58] <reka> NTFS is read only
[06:58] <nerull> *Repository ?
[06:58] <reka> !repositories
[06:58] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:58] <reka> nerull: go there
[06:58] <rabies> ubotu, who owns you?
[06:58] <ubotu> rabies: I give up, what is it?
[06:59] <gold> is there a way i can open an executable in a window
[06:59] <gold> instead of fullscreen
[06:59] <rabies> gold, depends on the program
[06:59] <gold> blender
[06:59] <gold> i have the executable
[06:59] <Keknehv> Hello everyone... does anyone know how to parse through a file and extract a string from every line?  Say I want to extract the string from character 10 to 20 on every line, how would I do that?
[07:01] <rabies> Keknehv, #bash
[07:01] <gold> Keknehv, Couldn't find package
[07:01] <rabies> gold, i guess it hasnt been imported from the debian repositories..
[07:02] <gold> maybe called something else
[07:02] <gold> blender_3d?
[07:02] <reka> it's in universe
[07:02] <Keknehv> Yes, it probably is
[07:02] <gold> blender.3d
[07:02] <Medrakil> is there a way to get eclipse thru apt?
[07:02] <Keknehv> Open up synaptic for a bit
[07:02] <gold> me?
[07:02] <Keknehv> Search for something with the name containing "blender"
[07:02] <reka> Medrakil: apt-cache search <program>
[07:02] <Keknehv> yes
[07:02] <niet> a quick q - is there a bittorent tracker for ubuntu cdimages?
[07:02] <gold> k
[07:03] <gold> done
[07:03] <rabies> gold, or apt-file search bin/blender
[07:03] <Keknehv> Ok, did it find stuff?
[07:03] <Medrakil> reka: eclipse-nls-sdk - localized message catalog for eclipse  - that's it
[07:03] <gold> seraching blender comes up with nothing
[07:03] <Medrakil> no eclipse
[07:03] <gold> searching*
[07:03] <Keknehv> ok
[07:03] <Keknehv> You need to add the universe to the repositories
[07:04] <gold> how do i do that?
[07:04] <reka> then it's probably not in there (excluding backports)
[07:04] <Keknehv> In one of the menus
[07:04] <Keknehv> No, blender is there
[07:04] <Keknehv> I installed it
[07:04] <Keknehv> Go through the menus... you should find one thing labeled "repositories"
[07:04] <malakhi_> Medrakil: you need to download it from the eclipse website.
[07:04] <Medrakil> malakhi_, kk
[07:04] <gold> Keknehv, k found it
[07:05] <Keknehv> Good
[07:05] <gold> Keknehv, now what
[07:05] <Keknehv> Now, there should be a window with a list
[07:05] <gold> Keknehv, yah
[07:05] <Keknehv> Okay, hold on, I need to check this
[07:06] <mcdenyer> hey all im back :)
[07:06] <mcdenyer> :)
[07:06] <gold> Keknehv, I think i found it
[07:07] <mcdenyer> dbernar1: hey do i need to have a virux protector setup for ubuntu???
[07:07] <Keknehv> Okay, add universe to it
[07:07] <jeff__> salut
[07:07] <Keknehv> And multiverse, for good measure
[07:07] <gold> Keknehv, yah, its updating
[07:07] <reka> mcdenyer: afaik there are no viruses for linux distros.
[07:07] <gold> Keknehv, ill see if its working in a sec
[07:07] <reka> no spyware either!
[07:07] <mcdenyer> ok
[07:07] <Keknehv> gold: Excellent. Now it should be working.
[07:07] <HappyFool> ello
[07:08] <gold> Keknehv, Thanks for the help
[07:08] <mcdenyer> reka: really??? not even one?
[07:08] <jeff__> take assistance, I need help
[07:08] <glDaher> hi, I've just installed cvsweb, I already have a working apache2 and a cvs server too... but I don't know where the files were installed... man cvsweb say I should find it on http://localhost/cgi-bin/cvsweb ... but does not exist
[07:08] <reka> mcdenyer: afaik, not yet. :)
[07:08] <HappyFool> glDaher: try 'dpkg -L cvsweb' to find where the files are -- not sure about a URL
[07:08] <js_> mcdenyer: there are "viruses", but they dont work the same way as windows viruses, and often require a breakin and manual installation by an attacker (or misuse of the root account with hacked software)
[07:08] <Keknehv> mcdenyer: They patch it up really quickly, anyways.
[07:08] <mcdenyer> reka: i knew that like all viruses are for windows and that people didnt make viruses for linux distros but i thought thered be a few
[07:09] <gold> Keknehv, yah, is 2.36 the only one thats available?
[07:09] <mcdenyer> ok
[07:09] <reka> mcdenyer: ah, well js_ seems to know a bit more than me on that :)
[07:09] <mcdenyer> wow yay for ubuntu
[07:09] <Keknehv> It probably is, if that's all you're seeing
[07:09] <gold> Keknehv, cause i dont see 2.37
[07:09] <gold> Keknehv, k
[07:09] <Keknehv> Yes, sometimes the package list is a bit outdated
[07:09] <gold> Keknehv, Thanks again
[07:09] <js_> mcdenyer: if its a concern, run chrootkit regularly and install a free antivirus checker such as clamav or f-prot
[07:10] <glDaher> HappyFool: thx, they're installed to /usr/share/cvsweb
[07:10] <glDaher>  .. should I now point apache there?
[07:10] <mcdenyer> hey how much does cedega cost????
[07:10] <mcdenyer> ok
[07:10] <HappyFool> glDaher: sorry, don't know ;). look maybe in /usr/share/doc/cvsweb
[07:10] <reka> mcdenyer: iirc, it's a subscription service: $5/mth
[07:10] <glDaher> HappyFool: yeah, thx anyway
[07:11] <mcdenyer> damn i thought it was a onetime thing
[07:11] <mcdenyer> that sucks
[07:11] <robotgeek> ubunutnewb: sorry, my wireless network seems messef up
[07:11] <hyapadi> is there any program like netstumbler but for linux?
[07:12] <robotgeek> hyapadi: netstumbler :)
[07:12] <hyapadi> is there?
[07:12] <gold> Keknehv, how do you edit gnomes menus? if you know by chance
[07:12] <mcdenyer> hey ever since i installed ubuntu my computer boots to the bios config for some reson????
[07:12] <hyapadi> as far as i know it's only for win
[07:12] <reka> gold: google for smeg menu editor
[07:13] <robotgeek> hyapadi: it's there in the repository, i am not sure if it's the same thing
[07:13] <hyapadi> ok2 i'll try
[07:13] <gold> reka, i thought there was a built in program
[07:13] <hyapadi> is there any valuable tools for wireless? any?
[07:13] <gold> reka, or at least a text file you can edit
[07:13] <robotgeek> or try http://denu.sf.net
[07:13] <robotgeek> reka,gold :or try http://denu.sf.net
[07:14] <robotgeek> hyapadi: i am looking for some wireless management tools myself
[07:15] <ubunutnewb> Anyone know what package alsaconf is in since after isntalling alsa-utils it isn't in there?
[07:15] <HappyFool> 6.04 will be supported for 3 years on desktop? wow.
[07:15] <robotgeek> hyapadi: they are all in breezy...all the good progs are always in the testing section!
[07:15] <robotgeek> ubunutnewb: /Debian/Apps/System/Admin/alsaconf.desktop
[07:16] <HappyFool> ubunutnewb: a search on for alsaconf packages.ubuntu.com gives no hits
[07:16] <HappyFool> err
[07:16] <reka> gold: gnome has no built-in program.  and as far as editing a text file, seems kind of fiddly to me.
[07:16] <HappyFool> ubunutnewb: a search on packages.ubuntu.com for alsaconf gives no hits
[07:16] <jeff__> I looking for wine for ubuntu PPC
[07:16] <Keknehv> Wine is only x86
[07:16] <mcdenyer> reka: dang i was gonna use ubuntu and game but now i dont think im going to if i have to pay 5 a month
[07:17] <gold> reka, thats just how im used to doing it, from fluxbox
[07:17] <Keknehv> It stands for "WINE Is Not an Emulator"... so... it won't emulate it
[07:17] <jeff__> ok
[07:17] <robotgeek> HappyFool: it's supposed to be in the alsa-utils package
[07:17] <Hieronymus> ubunutnewb: jeroen@breezy:~$ apt-cache search alsaconf
[07:17] <Hieronymus> alsa-utils - ALSA utilities
[07:17] <jeff__> many thanks I'm not sure but now it's ok in my brain :)
[07:18] <HappyFool> robotgeek: hrm. not according to pacakages.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <ubunutnewb> I'll try reinstalling alsa-utils
[07:18] <HappyFool> ubunutnewb: does 'dpkg -L alsa-utils|grep alsaconf' give any hits?
[07:18] <jeff__> what is the solution for playing Starcraft on my ppc with only ubuntu ?? :)
[07:19] <robotgeek> HappyFool: there's even a menu location for it, but the command is not present anywhere!
[07:19] <glDaher> I just made a sym link for /usr/lib/cgi-bin... but shows a script begining with  ...  #!/usr/bin/perl -T
[07:20] <robotgeek> HappyFool: Try from menu Debian->Apps->System->Admin-> alsaconf
[07:20] <glDaher> means I should install perl... but perl is installed, then I guess I should configure apache to eecute it right?
[07:20] <HappyFool> robotgeek: hrm. and 'Provides: audio-mixer, alsautils, alsaconf'
[07:20] <OculusAquilae> hi
[07:20] <HappyFool> oh, i have alsa-utils
[07:20] <robotgeek> HappyFool: weird...maybe devs did not want us messing with alsaconf :)
[07:20] <thechitowncubs> wohoo, ubuntu foundation, money, money, money!
[07:21] <SDFH_Linux> $$
[07:21] <HappyFool> robotgeek: i'm not following that 'Debian->Apps' thing
[07:21] <anacron> hi
[07:21] <robotgeek> HappyFool: from the gnome menu
[07:21] <anacron> what things i need to make my wlan work
[07:21] <jasoncohen> in order to start kde in vnc i added startkde & to /home/jason/.vnc/xstartup. how would i do the same for gnome?
[07:21] <anacron> i have done it once
[07:21] <robotgeek> HappyFool: the shortcut to alsaconf exists, but alsaconf itself doesn't exist
[07:22] <jmjones> anacron: what problem are you having?
[07:22] <robotgeek> anacron: what wireless card?
[07:22] <anacron> robotgeek: i think it was d-link 510
[07:22] <HappyFool> robotgeek: your menu must be different to mine
[07:22] <anacron> jmjones: i don't member the commands
[07:22] <acid2_> is anyone good at solving build problems?
[07:22] <robotgeek> HappyFool: it's an autogenerated one, maybe it messed up :)
[07:22] <jeff__> anyone have ubuntu on imac ??
[07:22] <siorfin> whats the best theme for xfce
[07:22] <acid2_> heres my problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Dq2pmx20.html
[07:23] <anacron> it was something i had to convert those windows drivers
[07:23] <robotgeek> jeff__: powerbook good?
[07:23] <jeff__> I have more question :)
[07:23] <robotgeek> anacron: ndiswrapper?
[07:23] <jeff__> imac palourde
[07:23] <anacron> robotgeek: yeah!
[07:23] <anacron> robotgeek: what was the another one?
[07:23] <robotgeek> jeff__: sorry, never heard of it...old world mac?
[07:23] <anacron> robotgeek: to make it work
[07:23] <jeff__> I haven't a good template for my keyboard
[07:23] <jeff__> imace G3
[07:24] <HappyFool> acid2_: target ` ' ? looks a bit weird
[07:24] <robotgeek> anacron: usually u only need ndiswrapper
[07:24] <jeff__> palourde is her french name
[07:24] <acid2_> HappyFool, ya
[07:24] <robotgeek> jeff__: :) ... template for keybard, don't quite follow you there...
[07:24] <acid2_> thats after 'make'
[07:25] <anacron> robotgeek: but there was some command to activate it
[07:25] <HappyFool> acid2_: looks like a screwy makefile.  Have you looked inside the Makefile ?
[07:33] <acid2_> yea, but I cant understand them
[07:33] <acid2_> :P
[07:33] <heinrich> When i try to install the .rpm's with alien with the command alien -i filename.rpm nothing appears to happen
[07:33] <reka> heinrich: cos it only converts it.
[07:33] <heinrich> how do i install them then?
[07:33] <reka> heinrich: you then use dpkg -i <deb file> to install it
[07:33] <bddebian> heinrich: It turns it into a .deb, it doesn't insall it
[07:34] <heinrich> oh ok
[07:34] <heinrich> thanks
[07:34] <bddebian> Damn reka, do you live here? :-)
[07:35] <reka> bddebian: no, i only show up when you're here so i can get in with answers first.
[07:35] <bddebian> reka: :-)
[07:36] <iceman2k> I need advice on running ubuntu on a mac ...
[07:37] <bddebian> iceman2k: What kind of advice?
[07:37] <iceman2k> would this system run it ... iMac G3 266 MHz 32 MB 6GB
[07:37] <heinrich> when i try alien -d filename.rpm it says cannot create directory file exists, does this mean its already on my system somewheres?
[07:38] <bddebian> iceman2k: SHould.  The 32Mb is a little low but it should run
[07:38] <{Seb}> i'm running Ubuntu on my iBook G4
[07:38] <caldwell> if i have module source (for example, in my case, lirc) how do I compile it against the source tree for the stock kernel image?
[07:38] <Sionide> I neglected to blog about sudoedit, which is a technique I learned about from Flavio. When needing to edit a file, I've been using sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list (for example).
[07:38] <Sionide> sudoedit is cool because it launches whatever the default editor is on the system (the $EDITOR variable), on Ubuntu by default this launches nano, while people like me set the default editor to be vim.
[07:38] <Sionide> So now when someone needs help and asks you which file to edit, you can just tell them sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list and it will launch their editor of choice. Leaving the text editor out of the conversation is of course a bonus, lest an emacs user hurl something heavy at me from across the room.
[07:38] <{Seb}> which is weird in its self but how can i access my second button
[07:38] <{Seb}> is there a key cobination
[07:38] <reka> iceman2k: probably very slowly. :)
[07:38] <Sionide> ( http://www.whiprush.org/ )
[07:38] <Sionide> that is so useful...
[07:39] <HappyFool> Sionide: nice
[07:39] <caldwell> i installed the linux-source-2.6.10 package, but i don't think that's what i need
[07:39] <Sionide> and... :o http://photos18.flickr.com/24137973_41d007961b.jpg wow! gui for running services... cool
[07:40] <HappyFool> caldwell: you probably want linux-headers-386 (or -686, -k7, etc)
[07:40] <caldwell> okay, i'll try
[07:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi
[07:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can i share my local printer in samba? is not working
[07:42] <Aragorn_Guardian> i am using printing = cups
[07:43] <HappyFool> Aragorn_Guardian: maybe look on the wiki, e.g., here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[07:43] <Aragorn_Guardian> /etc/cups/printers.conf seems ok
[07:43] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...thanks
[07:44] <dawkirst__> I seem to have trouble printing as well, from OpenOffice - the printing comes out all scrambled.
[07:44] <mark__> Help!
[07:44] <goldfish> no!
[07:45] <mark__> can someone tell me the default root password? for ubuntu?
[07:45] <goldfish> mark__: what's wrong?
[07:45] <goldfish> mark__: there is none
[07:45] <goldfish> ubuntu uses sudo
[07:45] <redtech_> im trying to install wpasupplicant via apt-get install wpasupplicant and I recieve and error MD5Sum mismatch. What is the root cause of this problem?
[07:45] <Groverman> mark__, there is no root password because root does not exist if you do not create it yourself
[07:45] <goldfish> and the password for that is the password of the account activated during install.
[07:45] <rabies> goldfish, ubunutu has no root user?
[07:45] <Groverman> rabies, that is correct
[07:46] <mark__> I typed in root with no password. and it said incorect password.
[07:46] <HappyFool> redtech: probably dud repository. try changing your repo to 'archive.ubuntu.com' instead of 'xx.archive.ubuntu.com' in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <Groverman> mark__, it is because there is no user named root
[07:46] <eruin> anyone else think the terminal menu item should be in accessories instead of system tools ?
[07:46] <rabies> Groverman, how'd you modify System V to eliminate the root user?
[07:46] <HappyFool> Groverman: eh ?
[07:46] <mark__> can you tell me how I create one.. I'm new to this..
[07:46] <HappyFool> rabies: root is just disabled
[07:47] <HappyFool> err, sorry, can't tell who's asking what
[07:47] <Groverman> mark__, yes. type in sudo su
[07:47] <mark__> oh.. Ok
[07:47] <eruin> rabies, ubuntu has root, but it's disabled. you can set a password for root to enable it though
[07:47] <Groverman> mark__, enter your password
[07:47] <rabies> in other words a randomly generated password is placed over the root account...at least i'd hope its random...
[07:47] <Moppin> !info root
[07:47] <Groverman> mark__, then type passwd
[07:47] <eruin> !root
[07:47] <ubotu> [root]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:48] <Groverman> mark__, when you have typed in a password you can use the root account
[07:48] <redtech_> HappyFool, excellent, ty!
[07:48] <redtech_> HappyFool, I change us.archive to just archive.
[07:49] <HappyFool> rabies: no, the account is disabled: this is what 'sudo grep root /etc/shadow' says: 'root:*:12884:0:99999:7:::'
[07:49] <rabies> heh, no shell
[07:49] <rabies> k, disabled then
[07:49] <HappyFool> no, i think '*' means disabled. see 'man shadow'
[07:50] <jasoncohen> does anyone know where the remote desktop tool saves its settings?
[07:50] <mark__> wow this is different to fedora core
[07:50] <bddebian> mark__: And thank goodness for that :-)
[07:51] <mark__> Ahh I love this little os :)
[07:51] <mark__> nice and neat
[07:51] <HappyFool> redtech: good stuff. us.archive has been broken before, iirc
[07:52] <baggetFUNKI> hey there,
[07:52] <bddebian> Hello baggetFUNKI
[07:52] <baggetFUNKI> could anybody point me in the direction of using multiple monitors
[07:52] <baggetFUNKI> one of which being rotated
[07:52] <mark__> thanks for your help guys... this is quite a nice chat/OS :)
[07:53] <baggetFUNKI> basically. got one dvi monitor in portrait
[07:53] <baggetFUNKI> at 1280x1024
[07:53] <baggetFUNKI> and a crt monitor in landscape at 1024x768
[07:53] <HappyFool> baggetFUNKI: the wiki has these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[07:54] <baggetFUNKI> awesome
[07:54] <baggetFUNKI> thanks
[07:54] <mark__> a few more questions, I'm using this admin account. can I install stuff and does ubuntu support mp3 playback?
[07:54] <HappyFool> i wonder if we could connect ubotu to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex
[07:55] <HappyFool> mark__: you can install *lots* of apps using the apt system. For mp3 playback, take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:55] <HappyFool> mark__: a GUI interface to apt is Synaptic, available at System -> Adminsitration -> Synaptic
[07:56] <mark__> I must install the KDE desktop :)
[07:57] <HappyFool> mark__: the kubuntu-desktop package is what you want
[07:57] <HappyFool> !repositories
[07:57] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:57] <kbrooks> mark__, kubuntu-desktop
[07:57] <yonil> anyone here had luck using mencoder or transcode or something to encode into divx/xvid or other formats?
[07:57] <HappyFool> mark__: take a look at that url to add apt repositories
[07:59] <Franklinux> I cant run ubuntu 5.? ver 64bit in my computer
[07:59] <concept10> yes
[07:59] <HappyFool> Franklinux: what error do you get?
[08:01] <Franklinux> The monitor is dead I have a ASUS A8V-E DELUX with a pci express grapic card
[08:01] <anacron> hey, is there a messenger like program(like gaim) for ubuntu which has support for webcamera?
[08:02] <varjag> hi, i need help configuring my notebook's touchpad
[08:02] <jmjones> anacron: i think gnomeeting
[08:02] <D1> varjag, is Synaptics installed?
[08:02] <Hieronymus> anacron: the next amsn version will have support for that, and so will gaim-vv
[08:02] <Hieronymus> !webcam
[08:02] <D1> most laptops use it.
[08:03] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:03] <ed1t> varjag wat laptop is it/
[08:03] <varjag> D1: xroot-driver-synaptis apt says, but it doesn't work
[08:03] <D1> what kind of laptop?
[08:03] <varjag> maxselect e910, a minor russian brand i think
[08:03] <Hieronymus> ubotu: webcam is Support for webcams with messenger-like programs will be available in the next version of amsn (already in the CVS version) and with gaim-vv
[08:03] <ubotu> Hieronymus: okay
[08:03] <D1> oh hmmm
[08:03] <Hieronymus> !webcam
[08:03] <ubotu> I guess webcam is Support for webcams with messenger-like programs will be available in the next version of amsn (already in the CVS version) and with gaim-vv
[08:04] <Hieronymus> cool, ubotu :)
[08:04] <icedutah> What's a good html editor like :( Dreamweaver for Ubuntu? Does it come with anything like that other than Openoffice?
[08:04] <D1> did you google to see if anyone had it running under linux?
[08:04] <D1> uhmmm
[08:04] <Hieronymus> icedutah: bluefish, nvu, quanta
[08:04] <D1> nv
[08:04] <D1> somet hing
[08:04] <D1> yeah
[08:04] <D1> I just downloaded that.
[08:04] <mark__> can you tell me the command to install the kde desktop?
[08:04] <mark__> sorry, I'm very new to linux :P
[08:04] <OculusAquilae> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:04] <mindspin> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:04] <bddebian> mark__: Either use synaptic, or "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:04] <D1> ditto
[08:04] <mindspin> ;-)
[08:05] <icedutah> thanks...I'll check them out. I'm installing Ubuntu now.
[08:05] <mark__> I cant find that program in the envo
[08:05] <jmjones> or you could "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:05] <varjag> D1: google has nothing on it it seems
[08:05] <OculusAquilae> than #kubuntu would be a good channel for you mark_
[08:05] <bddebian> jmjones: :)
[08:05] <ed1t> varjag wat laptop do u have?
[08:05] <Franklinux> I can't istall ubuntu 5.x in my computer I have a ASUS A8V-E Deluxe
[08:05] <jmjones> mark__: which program can't you find?
[08:05] <bddebian> mark__: Do you have Universe and Multivers enabled in your sources.list?
[08:05] <SDFH_Linux> does ubuntu have xpde gui on there reps
[08:06] <Hieronymus> SDFH_Linux: nope
[08:06] <bddebian> SDFH_Linux: Not yet, it is on the list to be done
[08:06] <SDFH_Linux> whoa really they are going to port it over
[08:06] <rabies> Franklinux, got anything else?
[08:06] <mark__> I wanna thank you all for helping me out.. I'm really new to linux.
[08:06] <rabies> :)
[08:06] <bddebian> SDFH_Linux: Depends on if an MOTU picks it up.  I thought about trying it just for fun..
[08:06] <Franklinux> no
[08:06] <SDFH_Linux> same here
[08:06] <bddebian> SDFH_Linux: I meant to package it for Ubuntu
[08:06] <rabies> Franklinux, well then you are missing a few critical things, such as a cdrom drive
[08:06] <Franklinux> It's a 64bit\
[08:06] <Hieronymus> bddebian: SDFH_Linux it's on the wishlist, not the same as 'will be done'
[08:07] <mark__> I think I've been using windows to long :P
[08:07] <SDFH_Linux> k
[08:07] <varjag> ed1t: maxselect e910
[08:07] <rabies> Franklinux, i would go and get a processor, case, maybe a few fans, powersupply, etc
[08:07] <mark__> I miss yum :'(
[08:07] <HappyFool> mark__: i think you may learn to love apt ;)
[08:08] <varjag> is there any configurator for Xorg, like xconfigure for XFree86?
[08:08] <bddebian> mpmc: You won't missed it soon
[08:08] <OculusAquilae> mark__ or aptitude
[08:08] <mpmc> well I don't like Gnome
[08:08] <bddebian> varjag: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Is that what you mean?
[08:08] <jmjones> mpmc: i used to hate gnome
[08:08] <Franklinux> jajaja I have the compleat system but the main componet that is guiving me problems is the motherboard and the video card
[08:08] <fdr> hello... I perfectly know that I can do it from the terminal with the passwd command; but what is the gnome way to change one's password? thank you!
[08:08] <ed1t> varjag Xorg configure
[08:08] <rabies> Franklinux, ohh, ok
[08:08] <mpmc> Sorry, I've got so used to KDE and fedora :P
[08:08] <jmjones> mpmc: but after i drank the kool-aid, i really like it :-)
[08:08] <ed1t> or Xorg -config
[08:08] <ed1t> i forgot
[08:08] <rabies> Franklinux, that makes more sense then
[08:09] <bddebian> fdr: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups
[08:09] <rabies> Franklinux, more detail = better
[08:09] <Stan2> My computer does not have a standard ethernet port... It does have a similar port with something that looks like a piramid. What is this port called?
[08:09] <rabies> Franklinux, hard to fix a problem with what you are telling us
[08:09] <ed1t> varjag lemme see your mouse configuration
[08:09] <rabies> Stan2, get a ethernet card...
[08:09] <bddebian> Stan2: Is is a Smash-n-toss?
[08:09] <varjag> ed1t: 1 sec
[08:09] <rabies> Stan2, 20 bucks USD or probably something similar in euros
[08:09] <Franklinux> when i try to install I guet a black screen
[08:09] <ed1t> paste it on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:09] <Stan2> rabies, and that will work properly?
[08:10] <fdr> bddebian: but this works only if the user is a sudoer, doesn't it?
[08:10] <mpmc> lol.. I'm an idiot.. I didn't see system in the bar LOL
[08:10] <rabies> Stan2, sure, the vast majority of cards are supported
[08:10] <rabies> Stan2, i dont know what your pyrmaid port is
[08:10] <Stan2> rabies, ok thats what i planned on doing just wanted to check if it was a good idea.  thanks
[08:10] <Franklinux> the video card is not being reco
[08:10] <rabies> Stan2, maybe its firewire...
[08:10] <bddebian> fdr: You mean change your own password if you are not a sudoer?
[08:10] <Stan2> rabies, no
[08:10] <fdr> bddebian: yes
[08:10] <rabies> Stan2, weird, ok
[08:10] <HappyFool> rabies: it's to power the stargate!
[08:10] <Pizentios> Quick Question: How large is a ubuntu install? Or can i choose how large/how small to make it?
[08:10] <Stan2> rabies, this computer was before firewire... its next to the modem input
[08:10] <ed1t> Franklinux you will have to configure it manually?
[08:11] <bddebian> fdr: Hmm, dunno.  YOu might be able to change your own password that way.
[08:11] <Franklinux> I don't have any problem with SUSE 9.3
[08:11] <rabies> HappyFool, becareful, dont dump us on an alien planet with freaky egyptians
[08:11] <Franklinux> HOW
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> Pizentios,  options are server, or desktop install.  its fairly small install.
[08:11] <rabies> Stan2, nope, not a clue
[08:11] <Pizentios> Sweet thanks, just got a old laptop for free and i figured i'd try out something new :-)
[08:11] <Franklinux> HOW ??????
[08:12] <rabies> Franklinux: give us your COMPLETE system specifications
[08:12] <ed1t> Franklinux you still have suse 9.3 installed?
[08:12] <rabies> Franklinux: i want to know the material of the case
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:12] <Franklinux> yes
[08:12] <rabies> Franklinux: with what you are telling us we couldnt figure out if its the videocard or the fact that the computer isnt plugged in
[08:12] <Franklinux> well no
[08:12] <rabies> its quite frusterating
[08:12] <ed1t> Franklinux k copy the xorg.conf or XF86Config to ubuntu....and make some changes
[08:13] <ed1t> it might work
[08:13] <Franklinux> the video card is a ATI x700pro
[08:13] <ed1t> thats how i did mine
[08:13] <rabies> Franklinux: thats a step in the right direction
[08:13] <mpmc> Ohh.. I'm really impressed...
[08:13] <rabies> Franklinux: now the CPU temp while running?
[08:13] <jasoncohen> does anyone know how to start gnome from vnc. gnome-session & doesn't work
[08:14] <rabies> jasoncohen: you gotta stick /usr/bin/gnome-session in the vnc config file
[08:14] <Franklinux> I can't run the live ver or ubuntu
[08:14] <rabies> jasoncohen: i forget what its called...some . file in your home dir
[08:14] <jasoncohen> rabies, already done
[08:14] <ed1t> vnc?
[08:14] <jasoncohen> rabies, /home/username/.vnc/xstartup you mean
[08:14] <rabies> jasoncohen: is gnome workin w/o vnc?
[08:14] <bddebian> ed1t: Virtual Network Computing. Lick pcAnywhere kinda
[08:14] <jasoncohen> yup
[08:14] <eruin> anyone got fglrx working in breezy?
[08:14] <ed1t> ooo
[08:14] <jasoncohen> rabies, and i can start kde with startkde &
[08:14] <Franklinux> the xserver is not working
[08:14] <rabies> jasoncohen: so startkde works under vnc?
[08:14] <bddebian> s/Lick/Like :-)
[08:14] <jasoncohen> rabies, i can use vino - but i want to have a virtual session
[08:15] <Franklinux> I can't start x
[08:15] <jasoncohen> rabies, yes
[08:15] <serengeti> what can be a reason that every couple of restarts my thikpad hangs instead of showing a gdm screen?
[08:15] <rabies> Franklinux: you seem to know a lot for someone who doesnt give any info..
[08:15] <jasoncohen> vino runs on 5900. i want a vnc session on 5901
[08:15] <HappyFool> Franklinux: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages
[08:15] <rabies> jasoncohen: try using tightvnc or one of the other ones
[08:15] <rabies> jasoncohen: might be a realvnc specific issue
[08:15] <Franklinux> I have a Black screen how do you spect me to copy some thing thatr i cant seeeee
[08:15] <rabies> jasoncohen: or visa-versa
[08:16] <HappyFool> Franklinux: can you not even log in on a text console ?
[08:16] <rabies> Franklinux: look, you have hardware you arent talking about, you have steps leading up to that black screen
[08:16] <Franklinux> NO
[08:16] <jasoncohen> rabies, ok
[08:16] <HappyFool> Franklinux: what do you see on bootup ? any text messages ?
[08:16] <ed1t> Franklinux get the conf file from suse and try that file....
[08:16] <ed1t> it might work or you will have make some minor changes
[08:17] <rabies> Franklinux: its like me saying "I HAVE A COMPUTER" and expecting everyone to know how to take it apart and put it back together again without knowing what components are there and what they are
[08:17] <Franklinux> ok i'lldo that and  see what  happ
[08:17] <rabies> Franklinux: what happens before the blank screen, and right after?
[08:17] <rabies> Franklinux: any noises? tell tale signs of an issue?
[08:17] <rabies> Franklinux: is it black or some other color?
[08:17] <toasta> Has anyone tried the new installer for ati cards? Works great on Suse and Redhat but most others it don't work.
[08:17] <ed1t> varjag yo did u find it?
[08:17] <rabies> toasta: i use the deb packages...
[08:18] <jmjones> anyone here running breezy?  if so, how stable is it?
[08:18] <Franklinux> ok  let me try it ok and ill guet back with all the inf
[08:18] <Franklinux> thank you
[08:18] <varjag> ed1t: i did find, it but trying to recall what it was originally
[08:18] <varjag> before i tweaked it :)
[08:18] <kbrooks> jmjones, test
[08:18] <kbrooks> jmjones, oh
[08:18] <kbrooks> ok
[08:18] <jasoncohen> rabies, both realvnc & tightvnc work with kde but neither will start gnome with gnome-session &
[08:18] <kbrooks> jmjones, breezy is unstable
[08:18] <jmjones> kbrooks: how unstable?
[08:18] <ed1t> varjag wat versoin u using? hoary or warty/
[08:19] <mpmc> Hi again yall
[08:19] <toasta> where did you get those? if you dont mind my ignorince
[08:19] <varjag> ed1t: how do i know? :)_
[08:19] <rabies> jasoncohen: are you just putting in gnome-session, or the absolute path?
[08:19] <ed1t> varjag well u insatalled the ubutun
[08:19] <ed1t> ubuntu
[08:19] <kbrooks> jmjones, i dont know?
[08:19] <ed1t> u using ubuntu 5.04?
[08:19] <jasoncohen> i did /usr/bin/gnome-session & and exec /usr/bin/gnome-session &
[08:19] <ed1t> or 4.10
[08:19] <jasoncohen> but it shouldn't matter - startkde & works
[08:20] <varjag> ed1t: yes, 5.04
[08:20] <ed1t> k
[08:20] <jmjones> kbrooks: does it kill crap?
[08:20] <rabies> jasoncohen: yeah, but relying on $PATH isnt recomended
[08:20] <kimo> hi, I noticed apt-get connects multiple times simulataneously to the server. Any idea where is that configured
[08:20] <rabies> jasoncohen: how are you starting vnc?
[08:20] <kbrooks> jmjones, i heard X is broken
[08:20] <ed1t> varjag open a terminal window, type in sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:21] <jasoncohen> rabies, with vncserver as a user
[08:21] <rabies> jasoncohen: it really sounds like a gnome specific issue, irc.gimp.org has most of the gnome devs in there, they might know something
[08:21] <acid2_> Does anyone know of something in Linux I can use to stream audio from a web radio?
[08:21] <jmjones> kbrooks: ooh.....can't deal with that.  i need my x
[08:21] <rabies> acid2_: VLS
[08:21] <ed1t> paste that configuration to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:21] <acid2_> rabies, thanks I'll look into that
[08:21] <ed1t> do that while i reboot into linux
[08:21] <ed1t> brb
[08:21] <rabies> acid2_: that'll relay it...VLC can play it or relay it
[08:21] <HappyFool> kimo: try maybe 'man apt.conf' or 'man apt_preferences'
[08:21] <varjag> ed1t: yeah, done that, changed the protocol to imps2, added coredevice option to it - still no luck
[08:21] <kbrooks> jmjones, one breezy user reported that everything was the same .....
[08:21] <punkrockguy318> Which is better for a hard drive:  a USB2.0 hdd, or an IDE?
[08:21] <varjag> ed1t: that book has no network atm
[08:21] <acid2_> rabies, I need to burn it to a cd
[08:21] <ed1t> hmmm
[08:22] <kbrooks> nothing went bad or anything
[08:22] <rabies> punkrockguy318: firewire or IDE or SCSI
[08:22] <ed1t> ooo
[08:22] <ed1t> welll brb
[08:22] <bddebian> punkrockguy318: IDE
[08:22] <rabies> punkrockguy318: avoid USB at all costs
[08:22] <Kyral> SATA....
[08:22] <punkrockguy318> rabies, why?
[08:22] <rabies> acid2_: k
[08:22] <kbrooks> jmjones, everything the same as hoary
[08:22] <toasta> yes avoid usb
[08:22] <rabies> punkrockguy318: USB works using burst transmission...meaning you cant get a good steady data stream off it, which is fine for backups, but not so good for using it as a real hd
[08:23] <punkrockguy318> rabies, alright
[08:23] <punkrockguy318> rabies, yeah, i bought the drive for a backup drive, but i was just wondering if i should use it for my main
[08:23] <rabies> punkrockguy318: not such a good idea...
[08:23] <punkrockguy318> rabies, yeah, i'll stick with it for a backup drive
[08:23] <rabies> k
[08:25] <kbrooks> scsi > ide > *
[08:25] <kbrooks> ;)
[08:25] <toasta> rabies: do you mind telling me where you got that driver? and does it have the control panel?
[08:25] <mpmc> OMG NOOO.. I cannot mount my windows for reading :|
[08:25] <rabies> toasta: driver? for what?
[08:25] <HappyFool> mpmc: what error do you get?
[08:25] <rabies> oh, right
[08:25] <toasta> deb ati
[08:25] <mpmc> it says I need to me root
[08:26] <rabies> http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html
[08:26] <mpmc> Any ideas?
[08:26] <HappyFool> mpmc: you can probably tweak /etc/fstab to make it user mountable, if that's really what you want
[08:26] <bddebian> mpmc: Are you using mount ?
[08:26] <HappyFool> mpmc: else just use 'sudo'
[08:26] <toasta> many thanks!
[08:26] <HappyFool> mpmc: as in 'sudo mount <stuff>'
[08:26] <bddebian>  <stuff> :-)
[08:26] <Hieronymus> !mountwindows
[08:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:26] <rabies> toasta: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6865.html
[08:26] <mpmc> no.. In KDE.. trying to access the drive and it says I need to be root to mount it
[08:27] <rabies> toasta: theres some ubuntu specific info on it
[08:27] <skew> Hi, my office mate and I are getting an MD5Sum error trying to apt-get emacs21. Can anybody help/check?
[08:27] <husher> anyone here tried upgrading to breezy?
[08:28] <rabies> people seem to be obsessed w/ installing unstable versions of software...
[08:28] <HappyFool> skew: probably dud repository. change us.archive in /etc/apt/sources.list to archive
[08:28] <rabies> it'll be stable when its stable
[08:28] <steven_> WHAT UP GUYS!
[08:28] <husher> yes, i am :)
[08:28] <mpmc> Ok this is the error mount: only root can mount /dev/hda1 on /media/windows
[08:28] <Discipulus> steven_, nada
[08:28] <mpmc> damm it :P
[08:28] <husher> skew: the proper command is 'sudo apt-get install vim' ;)
[08:29] <skew> oh, I've already done that
[08:29] <Discipulus> mpmc, then use 'sudo'
[08:29] <rabies> husher: if you are really wanting to use it, install it in a chroot sandbox
[08:29] <rabies> husher: theres docs on how to do it on the web
[08:29] <HappyFool> skew: did you 'apt-get update' ?
[08:29] <husher> rabies: that's a good idea
[08:29] <skew> yeah, right before
[08:29] <skew> us.archive is busted?
[08:29] <HappyFool> skew: someone else reported problems a few minutes ago
[08:29] <husher> rabies: thanks
[08:29] <rabies> husher: np
[08:29] <skew> okay
[08:29] <HappyFool> mpmc: are you at the command line?
[08:30] <zero___> Who here can help me?
[08:30] <toasta> with what?
[08:30] <mpmc> woo I did it :)
[08:30] <husher> zero___: some of us will try, if you ask a question
[08:31] <zero___> I've installed everything on the CD and it can't load GRUB it says Error 18
[08:31] <rabies> zero___: depends on how you ask ;)
[08:31] <skew> HappyFool: thanks, it installed fine from archive
[08:31] <HappyFool> skew: cool. happy emacsing ;) and ignore those vi heretics!
[08:31] <husher> zero___: this is during the install?
[08:31] <jasoncohen> i asked in #gnome in irc.gimp.com. someone had the same problem with vnc and fixed it but he doesn't remember how.
[08:32] <husher> vi is the only True Way ;)
[08:32] <HappyFool> from 'info grub:' 18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[08:32] <zero___> This happened after it rebooted and tried to boot from the Hard disk
[08:33] <rabies> jasoncohen: =\
[08:33] <rabies> husher: i hate vi...
[08:33] <HappyFool> zero___: how is the disk partitioned?
[08:33] <husher> HappyFool: he needs a smaller boot partition, maybe?
[08:33] <zero___> I used the auto partition
[08:33] <toasta> zero: are you using pci controller for drives
[08:33] <meshugga> hello, any ibm db2 users that can help me with a backup prob. here? :x
[08:33] <zero___> Not sure
[08:33] <HappyFool> husher: i think it may be that the '/boot' partition is too far from the disk start, but i'm not sure
[08:33] <HappyFool> zero___: you have windows on the computer?
[08:33] <shad0w1e> question: I'm running hoary and my computer is running very slow. Unreal Tournament chops up all the time (and the same computer, even a worse machine, running windows, plays the game just fine) The 3d acceleration is set up fine so I think it's something to do with the hard drive speed.... any ideas? Thanks!
[08:33] <mpmc> Woooo!
[08:33] <zero___> Not on that one
[08:33] <steven_> does anyone know a way i can play starcraft on linux
[08:33] <zero___> Won't touch the hard drive with it
[08:33] <mpmc> You guys rock!
[08:34] <toasta> like a scsi or promise ide controller
[08:34] <HappyFool> zero___: ok, can you describe what is on the computer then? only ubuntu?
[08:34] <husher> HappyFool: that'd be my guess, or it is all one partition, past the 1024 cylinder
[08:34] <mpmc> :)
[08:34] <rabies> steven_: www.transgaming.com or www.winehq.com
[08:34] <zero___> I erased everything and tried to install Ubuntu
[08:34] <zero___> I had RedHat 9 on it
[08:34] <HappyFool> weird
[08:34] <toasta> ive had that problem in suse 9.3 and pci controllers
[08:34] <HappyFool> you *sure* it was error 18?
[08:34] <zero___> It's on the screen right now
[08:34] <husher> shad0wle: i'd say you have a driver issue
[08:34] <HappyFool> toasta: oh?
[08:35] <rabies> zero___: for application specific issues i would try the #programname, eg #grub
[08:35] <shad0w1e> husher, any way of checking to make sure my hard drive is running in DMA mode?
[08:35] <rabies> shad0w1e: hdparm
[08:35] <toasta> yep, other than ignoring it i had to go back to onboard ide controller
[08:35] <husher> shad0wle: hdparm should tell you
[08:35] <zero___> Should I try to install everything again and manually configure the partition scheme?
[08:35] <mik__> hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[08:35] <husher> though i'm not sure exactly how
[08:35] <root> shad0w1e, hdparm -i
[08:35] <rabies> mik__: testing it wont tell you a thing
[08:36] <HappyFool> zero___: well... if there's only ubuntu, i wouldn't have thought much could go wrong.
[08:36] <rabies> mik__: cept maybe show you some pretty numbers :)
[08:36] <mik__> well.. hmm you right
[08:36] <husher> zero___: i would, and make sure you make the /boot partition about 100M and starts at the front of the drive
[08:36] <rabies> its hdaparm -iI
[08:36] <HappyFool> zero___: how big is your hard drive?
[08:36] <mik__> rabies: thats correct :)
[08:36] <zero___> 80 GB
[08:36] <rabies> mik__: what do i win?!?! =D
[08:36] <shad0w1e> it tells me about all the modes my drive can run on
[08:36] <mik__> hmm.. well.. no way :P
[08:36] <shad0w1e> but i dont know which one its running
[08:36] <rabies> zero___: probably a lousy bios...or defective drive
[08:37] <rabies> shad0w1e: should be a star next to the run its using
[08:37] <shad0w1e> damn
[08:37] <shad0w1e> then its fine
[08:37] <toasta> bios update may help
[08:37] <shad0w1e> it says udma2
[08:37] <rabies> shad0w1e: wow, that slow
[08:37] <zero___> No, the drive's fairly new... probably bios the system is an older gateway
[08:37] <steven_> what is cedaga?
[08:37] <rabies> shad0w1e: thats REALLY slow
[08:37] <toasta> i doubt it though, didnt help me any
[08:37] <shad0w1e> rabies, its an old machine
[08:37] <phaedrus_> ne1 know of an ftp server with good gui?
[08:37] <rabies> steven_: read the website
[08:37] <HappyFool> zero___: maybe try what rabies suggested
[08:37] <mpmc> OMG.. I cannot believe this..
[08:37] <steven_> i did read it
[08:37] <steven_> but should i install it
[08:37] <shad0w1e> 8GB drive... can I expect better?
[08:37] <rabies> zero___: use a PCI controller card
[08:37] <Kyral> steven_, it works, hands down
[08:37] <rabies> shad0w1e: yeesh
[08:38] <zero___> Okay
[08:38] <steven_> can i get it through synaptic?
[08:38] <shad0w1e> rabies, can I expect better out of this drive?
[08:38] <rabies> zero___: the promise ones are well supported
[08:38] <rabies> shad0w1e: unfortuately no
[08:38] <optendo> Is there a package for gcc to be installed??
[08:38] <mpmc> This OS is much better than Fedora Core 4.
[08:38] <Kyral> steven_, no, you need to pay for it, but worthit
[08:38] <rabies> optendo: gcc
[08:38] <shad0w1e> rabies, I have a 4GB drive in a P2 266 and it plays unreal tournament a LOT better
[08:38] <shad0w1e> its on windows, though
[08:38] <steven_> ew..
[08:38] <husher> rabies: promise cards gave me nothing but trouble
[08:38] <steven_> i haveto pay for it
[08:38] <shad0w1e> this is a pIII 500
[08:38] <rabies> shad0w1e: better than your 486? ;)
[08:38] <rabies> husher: i've never had an aissue
[08:38] <Kyral> steven_, only $15
[08:39] <shad0w1e> this is a PIII 500, 8GB HD
[08:39] <optendo> I didn't see the gcc package in the add/remove programs...
[08:39] <rabies> husher: and i have 3
[08:39] <steven_> whats my other option
[08:39] <mpmc> but.. I seem to get popping sounds when playing MP3 files. like as if I was playing on an LP..
[08:39] <steven_> if i dont use cedaga
[08:39] <rabies> steven_: use wine
[08:39] <Kyral> to play XP Games?
[08:39] <rabies> optendo: apt-cache search gcc
[08:39] <husher> rabies: huh.  I had 2 go out on me within a month of each other
[08:39] <Kyral> Wine != Installshield
[08:39] <HappyFool> optendo: try 'sudo aptitude install build-essential' on the command line
[08:39] <derek> can anyone help me out with a sound problem here??
[08:39] <rabies> husher: i used mine for 3 years, no issues
[08:39] <steven_> i downloaded wine but its running a windows 95 so it seems
[08:40] <optendo> ok thanks trying now
[08:40] <rabies> husher: and all the drivers are GPLed from the company
[08:40] <husher> rabies: guess I'm just unlucky :(
[08:40] <rabies> husher: probably
[08:40] <HaroldJohnson> Hello, kiddies.  Coming up: more installing madness!
[08:40] <rabies> derek: #alsa
[08:40] <Go_pLastic> hey can anyone point me in the direction on what i need to have java?
[08:40] <shad0w1e> husher, on my athlonXP 1800+ I noticed a huge performance increase when going from ubuntu to MEPIS
[08:40] <husher> rabies: i do like the GPL'd drivers, though
[08:40] <root> I was informed last night that my atheros wireless card would work alright, however, I tried the livecd, and while it seemed to know about my wifi atheros card, It couldn't connect, no matter how many times I tried to run ifconfig or /etc/init.d/network restart
[08:40] <rabies> husher: ya, the fact that you dont have to do a chroot install is nice :)
[08:40] <derek> no matter what i try i cannot get my sound to work! if i go into volume monitor it says it cannot connect tot the sound daemon!!!
[08:40] <HaroldJohnson> root: Which Atheros card are you using?
[08:41] <toasta> i agree husher on the promise cards
[08:41] <rabies> derek: alsamixer
[08:41] <HaroldJohnson> root: I
[08:41] <shad0w1e> lol I'm using a microsoft PCI card on my linux box
[08:41] <shad0w1e> with ndis
[08:41] <rabies> toasta: well break out the beer and kareoke machine! =D
[08:41] <rabies> shad0w1e: heh, nice
[08:41] <HaroldJohnson> root: I'm using the D-Link DWL-G630
[08:41] <{Seb}> how do i get a second button immitation on my ibook?
[08:41] <shad0w1e> putting microsoft products to good use on non-microsoft operating systems
[08:41] <toasta> way ahead of ya rabies
[08:41] <Victus> has anyone successfuly been able to stream quicktime movies?
[08:41] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: Now that I'm installed, how do I test my D-Link wireless card/
[08:42] <root> HaroldJohnson, Atheros AR5005GS, I believe
[08:42] <shad0w1e> HaroldJohnson, iwconfig
[08:42] <derek> even when i try alsamixer it does nothing
[08:42] <HappyFool> Go_pLastic: have you looked on the wiki?
[08:42] <HaroldJohnson> root: Have you got it to work in Ubuntu?
[08:42] <rabies> derek: you do that again and ill asked to get you klined
[08:42] <husher> HaroldJohnson: try running iwconfig
[08:42] <HaroldJohnson> shodWw1e and husher: Thank you.  What should I be looking for in the printout?
[08:42] <root> HaroldJohnson, only tried the livecd so far..  but it should work, if I knew jack shit about wireless networking in Linux >,.,<
[08:42] <rabies> root: achem...GET OFF THE ROOT ACCOUNT AND COME BACK AS A USER! ;)
[08:43] <HappyFool> Go_pLastic: look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java   -- i used method 3
[08:43] <sorush20> hy guys..
[08:43] <husher> HaroldJohnson: some line about the essid
[08:43] <rabies> root: its like waving a read flag asking to be cracked
[08:43] <shad0w1e> HaroldJohnson, sudo iwlist scan
[08:43] <rabies> s/read/red/
[08:43] <shad0w1e> then sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid ROUTERNAME
[08:43] <HaroldJohnson> HappyFool: Are you a Squarepusher fan?
[08:43] <derek> is there any other way to open alsamixer?? alsamixer command doesnt work
[08:43] <HappyFool> HaroldJohnson: um. say what?
[08:43] <stisev> can anyone tell me how to edit a file xorf.conf that is (apparently) used by the system?
[08:43] <HaroldJohnson> shad0w1fe: Thank you
[08:43] <HaroldJohnson> HappyFool: Sorry, nevermind.
[08:44] <rabies> stisev: xorg.conf
[08:44] <siorfin> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf in terminal
[08:44] <toasta> how do you keep cp from omitting directories
[08:44] <stisev> siorfin: it wont let me edit it like that
[08:44] <root> rabies, I'm not on the root account :)
[08:44] <stisev> siorfin: it's read only :(
[08:44] <root> rabies, /ctcp version :)
[08:44] <siorfin> or sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:44] <siorfin> sudo removes read only
[08:44] <siorfin> use sudo
[08:44] <stisev> I did
[08:44] <stisev> stand by
[08:44] <rabies> root: yes you are :)
[08:44] <husher> HaroldJohnson: the wireless gui in Ubuntu is actually pretty good
[08:44] <HappyFool> stisev: -r for directories
[08:45] <HappyFool> stisev: read 'man cp' or 'cp --help'
[08:45] <rabies> lolz
[08:45] <HaroldJohnson> husher: Wireless GUI?  In Gnome?
[08:45] <husher> HaroldJohnson: you really shouldn't have to use any command line utils
[08:45] <sorush20> I have a question... I'm running Windows now.. but when I tried to run Ubuntu on the same system.. after installation everything was just much slower.. like browsing the hda drive the mouse was jummpy.. can anyone help
[08:45] <toasta> i should have known
[08:45] <Go_pLastic> HappyFool, thanks
[08:45] <derek> after installing ubuntu lastnight, everything works great except for the fact that i have no sound. i've tried the solution on ubuntus website but still no luck. anyone have any ideas
[08:45] <rabies> HaroldJohnson: it floats above the monitor
[08:45] <husher> HaroldJohnson: yes
[08:45] <hellraiser_rob> hi guys. how is everyone!
[08:45] <HaroldJohnson> husher: I need to use command-line utils right now
[08:45] <siorfin> stisev, well i dunno why it didnt work unless you messed with something, in default hoary install xorg.conf is write for root, change permissions :)
[08:46] <husher> HaroldJohnson: System -> admin  -> Networking
[08:46] <rabies> hellraiser_rob: i feel like a human
[08:46] <hellraiser_rob> rabies: thats a good sign
[08:46] <rabies> root: have a good trip?
[08:46] <HaroldJohnson> husher: I'm on a *very* old Mac, and I have got a good GUI going yet.  Gnome's *much* to slow.
[08:46] <mpmc> OMG I love this Operating System :D
[08:46] <derek>  after installing ubuntu lastnight, everything works great except for the fact that i have no sound. i've tried the solution on ubuntus website but still no luck. anyone have any ideas
[08:46] <luzbelito> anyone knows how to specify in command line launch an application to workspace n 3 by default ????
[08:46] <HaroldJohnson> husher: Oops, I meant I *have not* got a GUI yet.
[08:46] <root________> hehe, much better
[08:47] <husher> HaroldJohnson: what's the model?  I'm thinking of loading linux on my gf's PowerMac 5400 / 200
[08:47] <rabies> derek: log off, go home, scream into a pillow, and come back when you feel better
[08:47] <hellraiser_rob> anybody know how to make beagle search all files instead of just chat logs?
[08:47] <sorush20> derek, do you have onborad sound of sound card..
[08:47] <derek> sorush20: no its a Soundblaster Live!!
[08:47] <HaroldJohnson> husher: That's nearly equivalent.  I'm on a 233MHz PowerBook G3 (WallStreet II).
[08:47] <mpmc> well.. It detected my realtek one right away.
[08:47] <root________> derek, turn up your volume
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> derek,  useing the digital out?
[08:47] <HaroldJohnson> husher: It's referred to as an Old World Mac in the Ubuntu wiki.
[08:47] <sorush20> derek well you need to download the driver... then run the ndiswrapper command..
[08:48] <husher> HaroldJohnson: dag.  I was really hoping to turn that thing into a reasonable machine.
[08:48] <derek> Dr_willis: i am not sure
[08:48] <HaroldJohnson> husher: You may be able to!
[08:48] <luzbelito> anyone knows how to specify in command line launch an application to workspace n 3 by default ????
[08:48] <hellraiser_rob> beagle help anyone?
[08:48] <rabies> sorush20: that "advice" causes me pain, mainly cause the emu10k1 driver is GPLed and native to linux...
[08:48] <mpmc> anyone know a good MSN only client?
[08:48] <jasoncohen> does the human gdm theme not support XDMCP login?
[08:48] <husher> hellraiser_rob: yea, wait untill they get it stable :)
[08:48] <rabies> mpmc: amsn
[08:48] <stisev> [11:44]  <siorfin> or sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <rabies> mpmc: or gaim
[08:48] <HaroldJohnson> husher: Okay, I'm going to try to set up my wireless and GUI now.  Until next time!
[08:49] <stisev> thanks that worked, I think
[08:49] <hellraiser_rob> husher: your rubbish!
[08:49] <mpmc> I hate gaim
[08:49] <stisev> me too
[08:49] <stisev> Trillian baby!
[08:49] <rabies> mpmc: kopete
[08:49] <jasoncohen> i enabled xdmcp in login screen setup but it's not showing an option in gdm. when i changed themes it workee
[08:49] <sorush20> rabies: maybe you could help derek
[08:49] <rabies> stisev: go away =P
[08:49] <jasoncohen> *worked
[08:49] <stisev> ?
[08:49] <mpmc> not keen on that ether..
[08:49] <derek> sorush20: what does the ndiswrapper command do
[08:49] <mpmc> amsn is good :)
[08:49] <hellraiser_rob> beagle help....anyone.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:49] <rabies> derek: emulates a windows driver interface
[08:49] <husher> hellraiser_rob: i've given up on it.  great concept, but it's just too darn much work.
[08:49] <{Seb}> i can help with beagle
[08:49] <{Seb}> i've got it running with ease
[08:49] <husher> hellraiser_rob: what's your problem?
[08:50] <rabies> sorush20: probably not...
[08:50] <{Seb}> what is the problem?
[08:50] <derek> rabies: alright so what drivers do i need
[08:50] <rabies> derek: should already be installed
[08:50] <derek> rabies: SB Live!
[08:50] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: I've just installed xfce4.  Anyone know how to get it started?
[08:50] <hellraiser_rob> husher: its really peeing me off, i mean it seaches chat logs fine, but nothing else, then when i install the sql-lite dev package everything stops working
[08:50] <derek> rabies: so just use that command?
[08:50] <{Seb}> hellraiser_rob: what is the problem?
[08:50] <{Seb}> hellraiser_rob: breezy or hoary?
[08:50] <stisev> omfg
[08:50] <hellraiser_rob> hoary
[08:50] <{Seb}> with backported stuff?
[08:51] <hellraiser_rob> yeah
[08:51] <stisev> why is it EVERYTHING in linux is 100x more complicated and stubborn than it should be?
[08:51] <holycow> stisev, compared to what?
[08:51] <hellraiser_rob> stisev: worth it to be m$ free
[08:51] <stisev> general
[08:51] <husher> stisev: because that's what makes it fun ;)
[08:51] <stisev> I'm trying to get VMware (linux version) to run in a display other than the virtual 640x480
[08:51] <HappyFool> derek: hve you looked here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> for all my soundblaster live/auduigy/extigy cards - i just  have to twiddle with the volume mixer. i also tend to install the OTHER mixers that are out there and use them
[08:51] <stisev> i've been working for 3 days on this
[08:51] <stisev> STILL can't get it
[08:51] <stisev> :(
[08:51] <root________> okay, I want to run the install process largely over wireless, but the livecd had no clue how to cinfigure my wireless atheros (though the kernel detected it okay) what can I do to perform the install overwireless, and what's more, how can I get wireless working on the livecd ?
[08:51] <rabies> derek: i dont know enough about ubunutu to tell you
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> stisev,  considering the amount of time ive worked on windows problems in the past. Linux is trivial. :P
[08:52] <supernix> Hi
[08:52] <hellraiser_rob> {Seb} any ideas?
[08:52] <derek> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> derek,  that sounds like either the modules are not loaded. or missconfgured
[08:52] <supernix> I was curious I never saw any information about setting up a root password during the install
[08:52] <{Seb}> hellraiser_rob: the mono packages on hoary have many problems
[08:52] <HappyFool> supernix: root account is disabled by default. see wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for more.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> supernix,  the FAQ mentions this. :P the first USER password is the root users password.. an dyou can NOT login directly as root.
[08:53] <rabies> time to play gunbound!
[08:53] <{Seb}> hellraiser_rob: i'd recommend you upgrade to breezy or install Mono from source
[08:53] <husher> hellraiser_rog: the only way I ever got it to work was from CVS
[08:53] <hellraiser_rob> what are the risks upgrading to breezy?
[08:53] <stisev> how do I "access" vmware tools in kubuntu
[08:53] <highvoltage> {Seb}: upgrade to breezy? i thought it was badly broken!
[08:53] <husher> hellraiser_rob: crashing your entire system
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> stisev,  you installed linux under vmware in windows?
[08:53] <supernix> Thanks HappyFool  and Dr_Willis  for your reply I do appreciate your responses and helpfulness
[08:54] <HappyFool> oops. just plugged a usb dongle into my ethernet port
[08:54] <{Seb}> highvoltage: i find it is running fine on three machines (one of those is PowerPC)
[08:54] <stisev> Dr_Willis yes
[08:54] <stisev> Dr_Willis my main system is win
[08:54] <{Seb}> highvoltage: you have to be careful though
[08:54] <HappyFool> supernix: no problem ;)
[08:54] <stisev> Dr_Willis linux inside vmware
[08:54] <hellraiser_rob> well that doesn't sound like a worthwhile risk just for beagle
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> stisev,  install the vmware tools then. and use the shell/docs :P  I gave up on vmware ages ago.
[08:54] <highvoltage> {Seb}: ok. kewl. perhaps I should do a test install. where do I get the pre-release iso's?
[08:54] <stisev> Dr_Willis: ?? I installed vmware tools already
[08:55] <hellraiser_rob> when is breezy due for release?
[08:55] <{Seb}> hellraiser_rob: october
[08:55] <stisev> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to get it to run a res other than 640x480
[08:55] <Spec> What does vmware tools do?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> stisev,  then use the shell and use them. dont expect an icon to be there for them.
[08:55] <stisev> Dr_Willis: what the hell are you talking about?
[08:55] <highvoltage> hellraiser_rob: 2005-10 (hence 5.10 version number)
[08:55] <{Seb}> hellraiser_rob: the feature freeze is August 11th though
[08:55] <husher> hellraiser_rob: read this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35094
[08:55] <therocker> vmware??  hmmm....
[08:55] <stisev> Dr_Willis: Did you even read my questions?
[08:55] <hellraiser_rob> i can wait til octovber for beagle!!!!!!!!!!
[08:55] <stisev> Dr_Willis: I *HAVE* linux installed. everything is fine, but I can't get vmware tools to run vmware in any res other than 640x480
[08:56] <{Seb}> hellraiser_rob: by late august, it will be very usable
[08:56] <stisev> Dr_Willis: I've read the manuals/instructions, but I can't seem to figure out what the devil is up :(
[08:56] <{Seb}> hoary was released in april and i used it from february
[08:56] <toasta> can a compressed image be made from prompt
[08:56] <{Seb}> highvoltage: ftp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-2/breezy-install-i386.iso
[08:56] <hellraiser_rob> ok cool, i'm travelling for a month in a few weeks so will see what the situation is when i get back :;)
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> stisev,  may wan tto check the ubuntu wiki's - thats proberly the best place to  find others doing the same thing.
[08:56] <toasta> of a drive of course
[08:56] <supernix> http://www.wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:57] <HappyFool> toasta: you could probably pipe dd through gzip, if that's what you mean
[08:57] <zero___> Is it possible to set up a seperate boot partition?
[08:57] <husher> hellraiser_rob: if you really need bleeding edge, run gentoo *ducks*
[08:57] <therocker> helloooo freaks! can anybody help me out here??
[08:57] <hellraiser_rob> no i'm ubuntu forever
[08:57] <husher> zero___: possible and reccommended
[08:57] <toasta> that would be a little large wouldnt it?
[08:57] <therocker> :( wht the heck
[08:57] <zero___> Okay, what percentage of space do I want to put on that?
[08:57] <toasta> if you have lots of data that is
[08:57] <HappyFool> toasta: it's a disk image. what were you expecting ? ;)
[08:58] <toasta> lol
[08:58] <husher> zero___: i ususally use about 100M
[08:58] <zero___> Okay
[08:58] <toasta> okay then can you split the files it creates through gzip
[08:58] <husher> zero___: it only needs to hold your kernel and a few config files
[08:58] <zero___> Okay
[08:58] <zero___> Primary or logical?
[08:58] <supernix> Ok I am curious I am looking at the packages but there is no description as to what they are I am using Kynaptic
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt use Primaries :P
[08:59] <husher> zero___: primary
[08:59] <therocker> stop spamming ppl, u all look GEEKS!
[08:59] <zero___> Okay
[08:59] <zero___> Thank you
[08:59] <HappyFool> toasta: i have never made a disk image. However, you can either read ony specific parts of the source with dd, or you can use 'split' when done (that will be disk heavy, though)
[08:59] <abbe80> which program burn .nrg files?
[08:59] <husher> zero___: avoid locgical in all situations if you can
[08:59] <zero___> Should I use it on the Swap then?
[08:59] <mpmc> how would I go about installing amsn?
[09:00] <therocker> use the game messenger
[09:00] <{Seb}> Gaim you mean?
[09:00] <therocker> gaim
[09:00] <HappyFool> mpmc: use synaptic
[09:00] <therocker> yup
[09:00] <mpmc> I don't like that
[09:00] <HappyFool> mpmc: amsn is in universe
[09:00] <HappyFool> !sources
[09:00] <ubotu> sources is probably http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:00] <therocker> neither do i, but it actually WORKS
[09:00] <husher> zero___: i'd do this: 100M boot, 1G swap, everything else /
[09:00] <mpmc> I tried search but nothin was found.
[09:00] <HappyFool> mpmc: that link (ubotu's) has a complete /etc/apt/sources.list -- amsn is in universe
[09:01] <HappyFool> mpmc: or you can enable universe via synaptic (or maybe kynaptic -- i don't know kynaptic)
[09:01] <therocker> enable universe?
[09:01] <supernix> I must say I think that Konversation is much better than Xchat
[09:01] <therocker> i mean
[09:02] <therocker> lol
[09:02] <therocker> what?
[09:02] <stinkzor> I have 3 scsi drives. I partitioned them with the following configuration: 1 HD with *Reiserfs attached to / and *SWAP (made bootable and primary) | 2 HD's (logical physical volumes) combined to one lvm Reiserfs partition.  When Ubuntu restarts the first time to complete the installation , I get an "Missing operation system" , Bios Boot parameters are all set proberly. Does anybody know what the problem could be?
[09:02] <therocker> never used Konversation
[09:02] <therocker> hows that?
[09:02] <supernix> Just seems to be layed out better
[09:03] <therocker> ahh ok
[09:03] <supernix> None of them will let you copy content from the screen though
[09:03] <therocker> seems good to me
[09:03] <nalioth> supernix: you can copy/paste in xchat
[09:03] <blah> blah
[09:03] <supernix> Hmmm how do I do that ?
[09:04] <toasta> HappyFool: the man pages for dd are kinda weak, do you know where i can find more info on it for going drive to drive?
[09:04] <husher> stinkzor: make sure only your / or /boot partitions are set to bootable, and not the swap
[09:04] <therocker> nix u from where?
[09:04] <HappyFool> toasta: drive to drive? what do you mean?
[09:04] <husher> toasta: just copying one drive to another?
[09:04] <supernix> South Carolina
[09:04] <therocker> ok
[09:04] <stinkzor> husher, i'll check thx
[09:04] <jeff__> re
[09:04] <mpmc> I'm gonna scream.... can someone please tell me how I install amsn :).. Please
[09:04] <toasta> i need unallocated space as well
[09:05] <husher> stinkzor: np
[09:05] <jasoncohen> anyone know why the human theme for gdm doesn't support XDCMP login?
[09:05] <blah> whats amsn
[09:05] <husher> mpmc: sudo apt-get install amsn
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> !apt
[09:05] <ubotu> from memory, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[09:05] <mpmc> thanks you very much :)
[09:05] <blah> is that ms messenger?
[09:05] <therocker> no
[09:05] <therocker> its MSN
[09:06] <therocker> MSN messenger
[09:06] <blah> yuck
[09:06] <blah> stay away from the evil of m$
[09:06] <therocker> yeah just as ur nick
[09:06] <therocker> blah
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> blah: msn instant messenger is MicroSoft Network messenger.  It has some neat handling for undelivered messages
[09:06] <blah> blah
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> where aim would just throw them away and not tell you anything
[09:06] <husher> toasta: it's not free, and has to run on windows, but partitionmagic is a really great product
[09:06] <blah> so does yahoo
[09:06] <mpmc> how do I install all packages needed for it
[09:07] <therocker> whats partitionmagic?
[09:07] <blah> mpmc apt should install all needed packages
[09:07] <tiglionabbit> mpmc: when you select something on apt, it should grab the packages it requires itself
[09:07] <husher> therocker: it's a disk partitioning and resizing and cloning program
[09:07] <HappyFool> toasta: to copy an entire drive, copy /dev/hda -- that will include the mbr and all, may not be what you want
[09:07] <tiglionabbit> hey what?  Why use partition magic when you could use gparted?
[09:08] <blah> rocker must be crockerd
[09:08] <therocker> i mean i have kept my hdd dual booted, can anyone help me how to access my windows data via linux?
[09:08] <mpmc> haha.. no wonder.. I already had it installed..
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> therocker: I'll help
[09:08] <husher> tiglionabbit: i knew that was coming eventually :)
[09:08] <therocker> thanks
[09:08] <toasta> thanks but i got alot of imaging products for windows and they all suck
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> therocker: okay, first list your devices by saying "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:08] <husher> therocker: what's your windows filesystem? fat or ntfs?
[09:08] <therocker> ok
[09:08] <toasta> noones written a good imaging software for bad sectors and such
[09:08] <mpmc> to access windows http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#automountntfs
[09:08] <therocker> ntfs
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> find the one you want to mount, and pay attention to the line that starts with /dev/hd
[09:09] <toasta> do you mean it gets every sectors
[09:09] <therocker> i tried monting but it wont work,
[09:09] <nalioths_dog> therocker: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[09:09] <HappyFool> toasta: dd is pretty primitive. it's just a data shunter, not really a 'disk imager'
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> therocker: it didn't?  What did mount say to you?
[09:09] <husher> tiglionabbit: does gparted work yet?  last time i tried it it couldn't do much
[09:09] <toasta> ahhhh
[09:09] <nalioths_dog> mpmc: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[09:09] <Victus> is anyone able to get mplayer working correctly?
[09:09] <therocker> it made a folder named windows1 and windows 2 for me
[09:09] <stinkzor> husher, swap wasn't set as bootable, do you have another suggestion ?
[09:09] <therocker> and its EMPTY
[09:09] <toasta> so theres nothing in linux really for doing this?
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> husher: well you can't do anything to a partition while it's mounted.  Unmount them first
[09:09] <Kyral> we ARE geeks...
[09:10] <blah> i use xine
[09:10] <blah> ui
[09:10] <toasta> geek over here!
[09:10] <tiglionabbit> toasta: for doing what now?
[09:10] <freddy> hello!!
[09:10] <Razor-X> wohoo!
[09:10] <HappyFool> toasta: have you looked at gparted? I don't know it myself.
[09:10] <husher> tiglionabbit: no, i mean it couldn't resize a ntfs partition, or ext3 for that matter
[09:10] <Razor-X> I just scrolled 8000 lines
[09:10] <toasta> making full images
[09:10] <Razor-X> that's how many lines accumulate in about 11 hours, it seems ;)
[09:10] <Joey_C> Hi all i need some serious help can anyone help me?????
[09:10] <husher> stinkzor: what's your disk setup again?
[09:10] <toasta> no i havent HappyFool, never heard of it
[09:10] <Razor-X> psssshhh, we need to do better 1000 lines per-hour ;)
[09:10] <tiglionabbit> husher: really?  I could resize an ntfs partition using the version of parted on the CD.  In fact, qtparted let me resize it too
[09:10] <freddy> i have a question..does xchat comes with default sounds? or not?
[09:10] <stinkzor> I have 3 scsi drives. I partitioned them with the following configuration: 1 HD with *Reiserfs attached to / and *SWAP (made bootable and primary) | 2 HD's (logical physical volumes) combined to one lvm Reiserfs partition.  When Ubuntu restarts the first time to complete the installation , I get an "Missing operation system" , Bios Boot parameters are all set proberly. Does anybody know what the problem could be?
[09:10] <stinkzor> nst
[09:10] <blah> in fact i think ill uninstall mplayer
[09:10] <stinkzor> just copied soz :)
[09:11] <HappyFool> toasta: 'sudo aptitude install gparted'
[09:11] <Victus> will xine play quicktime?
[09:11] <freddy> i have a question..does xchat comes with default sounds? or not?
[09:11] <Razor-X> is there a reason you have such a convoluted partitioning scheme, Stinkzor?
[09:11] <mvilla0993> hey
[09:11] <therocker> i know its gonna be difficult since my windows is in ntfs format
[09:11] <ompaul> Joey_C, they might be able to if you actually asked the question so that they could figure what it is you could do next to assist yourself
[09:11] <therocker> but is it possible?
[09:11] <nalioth> Victus: with libquicktime installed, yes
[09:11] <steven_> hELLO
[09:11] <toasta> thanks HappyFool ill take a look
[09:11] <husher> stinkzor: i always make a small /boot partition and set it to ext3, for compatibility
[09:12] <nalioths_dog> therocker: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[09:12] <therocker> ok
[09:12] <husher> therocker: it should be easy, i do it all the time
[09:12] <therocker> thats nice
[09:12] <therocker> thanks a lot
[09:12] <therocker> i will do it right away
[09:12] <husher> therocker: unless it's compressed, or encrypted or something
[09:12] <therocker> no it isnt
[09:12] <steven_> Does any one know a good linux chat room?
[09:12] <Victus> ok do I simply type apt-get install xine-ui
[09:12] <steven_> with support
[09:12] <toasta> thanks all
[09:12] <Joey_C> Okie dokies, hope someone can help..... i just installed smart launcher on my 3650, how do i get more skins??? i mean i have some but im using a MMC card reader and i dont know how to get them working.. can someone help?
[09:12] <freddy> hrmm anyone?
[09:12] <toasta> bbl
[09:12] <Razor-X> OMG, why have ext3???????!!!!! my siystem is JFS, XFS, and ReiserFS only!!!!!!!1!!!!11!!!!
[09:12] <Razor-X> ;)
[09:13] <husher> therocker: do you know what partition it is?
[09:13] <blah> doesnt look like it freddy
[09:13] <steven_> Does any one know a good linux chat room?
[09:13] <stinkzor> husher: and the / can be attached to a reiserfs partition ?
[09:13] <Razor-X> a word of advice -- the more crazy you partition your drives, the harder it is to mak an OS use it
[09:13] <Razor-X> steven_: this one
[09:13] <nalioth> deaths-hell you are being paged
[09:13] <Razor-X> *make
[09:13] <steven_> no one of my co workers wants a chatroom for just linux.. not only ubuntu
[09:13] <husher> stinkzor: what Razor-X said
[09:13] <steven_> but linux in general
[09:13] <Razor-X> nalioth: fine fine, and I read above aout your 15 remark ;)
[09:13] <linukso> Hi! I want to connect a Nokia 6610i to my dell inspiron 8100 using irda. Has anyone done this?
[09:13] <supernix> Ok I see now Xchat copies whatever you highlight then you paste with middle mouse button
[09:13] <husher> stinkzor: it can, but i personally wouldn't
[09:14] <blah> theres all kinds of chatrooms for linux in freenode already
[09:14] <HappyFool> steven_: #linux, at a guess
[09:14] <ompaul> Joey_C, your on your own there
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> steven_: #linux, #linuxhelp, #linux-pub
[09:14] <steven_> i went to that it wasnt very talkative
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> steven_: stimulate some activity then
[09:14] <Joey_C> yer i noticed, thanks anyway mate
[09:14] <blah> #debian is very talkative
[09:14] <husher> stinkzor: Razor-X is right.  the crazier you get with your partitions and filesystems, the harder you make things on yourself
[09:14] <ompaul> steven_, #linuxhelp
[09:14] <Victus> is there a xine plugin for mozilla?
[09:14] <HappyFool> stefan_dk: use the 'list' function in your irc client. you are sure to find something
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> Victus: yes I believe so.  Someone talks about it on the forums
[09:15] <therocker> husher: its ntfs format
[09:15] <Razor-X> a general partition scheme on a double-booting box with Windows XP would be:
[09:15] <stinkzor> husher: So just try and ext3 for /, and the other 2 drives for lvm
[09:15] <steven_> ok
[09:15] <Razor-X> NTFS - Windows XP Partition
[09:15] <therocker> yup, thats mine
[09:15] <zero___> Windows XP sucks -_-
[09:15] <Razor-X> ext3 partition for / (or distributed ext3 partitions)
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: I gots my windows on fat32 so I can see it
[09:15] <husher> stinkzor: i'd make a 100M ext3 /boot, and the rest / ext3
[09:15] <blah> xp sucks, hmmmm
[09:15] <Razor-X> a small ReiserFS partition for MP3s and stuff which you want quick write times
[09:16] <husher> therocker: do you know the partition number?
[09:16] <therocker> hmmm
[09:16] <Razor-X> and a medium-sized FAT32 partition as an intermediary
[09:16] <therocker> hda3 and hda5
[09:16] <blah> i like xp, it does everything well, just has some security issues, because its so popular
[09:16] <therocker> the two drives of mine in windows
[09:16] <Razor-X> note that none of my partitions span multiple drives, or drives-and haves, and such
[09:16] <stinkzor> husher: so I better drop the lvm thingy :p
[09:16] <Razor-X> blah: it does everything.... "well"?
[09:16] <nalioth> Razor-X: don't forget hfs+ for macintosh compatibility
[09:16] <husher> therocker: where do you want to mount the drives?
[09:16] <blah> linux, is something to play around with for me
[09:16] <Razor-X> stinkzor: no, just go to #lvm and have fun there ;)
[09:16] <Razor-X> nalioth: hmmm... I should add that....
[09:16] <therocker> i just want  to access my windows STUFF via linux
[09:17] <blah> its getting close to xp, but not quite there yet
[09:17] <husher> stinkzor: not nessicarrily, but i'd just get the system up and running on one drive first
[09:17] <Echelon-H> How can I add all the files in a dir to a zip?
[09:17] <stinkzor> husher: k thx will try that
[09:17] <nalioth> therocker: that file the dog sent you should do the trick
[09:17] <therocker> ok
[09:17] <therocker> he sent me a file?
[09:17] <husher> therocker: so, you want it mounted on /mnt/windows ?
[09:17] <therocker> hehe
[09:17] <tiglionabbit> therocker: sorry, I lost track of you a little bit.  So anyway, the next step I was going to say was create a folder where you want to mount it, and uh, mount it.  What does mount tell you?
[09:17] <therocker> yup
[09:17] <HappyFool> Echelon-H: 'zip -r file.zip directory/' ?
[09:17] <therocker> yeah its created
[09:18] <husher> therocker: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/windows
[09:18] <Echelon-H> HappyFool, thanks
[09:18] <therocker> ok
[09:18] <nalioths_dog> therocker: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[09:19] <sunrex> i wonder if anyone remembers me..
[09:19] <therocker> lol
[09:19] <therocker> sure they do
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> not I
[09:19] <mpmc> Is Ubuntu secure on default?
[09:19] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: Know the difference between wdm and gdm?
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: look?
[09:20] <husher> sunrex: i don't, but i'm sure you're a nice person :)
[09:20] <HappyFool> mpmc: pretty much. no services listening on non-loopback interfaces by default
[09:20] <nalioth> mpmc: yes, it is. there are no daemons listening to external ports by default
[09:20] <sunrex> nothing is secure, NOTHING.
[09:20] <sunrex> even thou i like Ubuntu lol
[09:20] <HaroldJohnson> tilgionabbit: I'm not going to use gnome, so does it matter which display manager I use (wdm or gdm)?
[09:20] <mpmc> I mean in general
[09:20] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: not kdm?
[09:20] <mpmc> like... from hackers.. etc..
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> HaroldJohnson: probably not
[09:21] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Hello, dude!
[09:21] <nalioth> mpmc: read what was written to you
[09:21] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Or lady
[09:21] <mpmc> yes.. ok
[09:21] <husher> HaroldJohnson: you could probably use xdm in that case
[09:21] <sunrex> *sigh* just came back after a loonnngg time on windows...windows kept lagging...i got sick of it
[09:21] <nalioth> mpmc: if nobody is listening at the door, nobody will hear when the door is knocked upon
[09:21] <mpmc> lol.. thats cool
[09:21] <sunrex> trying to install the updates....if i dont get any sound after this ill go kill somone..
[09:22] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I didn't like gnome on this old Mac, so I apt-get install fluxbox and then apt-get install wdm
[09:22] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: How are you today?
[09:22] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: sounds good
[09:22] <mpmc> how do I change my password
[09:22] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: i'm fine, and you?
[09:22] <kbrooks> brb
[09:22] <husher> mpmc: 'passwd'
[09:22] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Good.  Which display manager do you use?
[09:22] <kbrooks> mpmc, easy. passwd
[09:22] <kbrooks> brb
[09:23] <eruin> anyone here running gaim2 ?
[09:23] <sunrex> what PHP do i need for this...
[09:23] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: the default gdm runs underneath my gnome
[09:23] <sunrex> cant figure that out lol
[09:23] <husher> HaroldJohnson: fluxbox is pretty sweet
[09:23] <husher> eruin: yes
[09:23] <tiglionabbit> mpmc: for a gui way, system -> admin -> users and groups, select your name and hit properties
[09:23] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I finally got my first view of gnome yesterday.
[09:23] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: and already tired of it? lol
[09:23] <eruin> husher, care to feed me with some screenies/whatsnew? :)
[09:23] <mpmc> I'm using KDE :)
[09:23] <HaroldJohnson> husher: What's best to use with fluxbox (in terms of display managers)?
[09:24] <mpmc> don't you just love 3mb connections?
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> mpmc: isn't users and groups still listed in your menus?
[09:24] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: It was dog slow on this old Mac.
[09:24] <husher> eruin: um, it seems better?
[09:24] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: thought flux was a display mangler?
[09:24] <mpmc> it is somewhere
[09:24] <eruin> husher, anything radical in the gui department?
[09:24] <din> nalioth, it is
[09:24] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Is it?  Sheesh, I've got alot to learn.
[09:24] <sunrex> o             k             how do i get sound...or better yet music
[09:24] <din> lol
[09:24] <eruin> husher, better msn support?
[09:24] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: A mangler?
[09:24] <din> xfce is my favorite
[09:24] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: LOL
[09:24] <din> i've tried just about every dm there is
[09:24] <husher> eruin: oops. no, i'm on 1.  I guess i left 2 behind me in gentoo; i just switched
[09:25] <eruin> bah ;)
[09:25] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: HaroldJohnson sorry, i meant desktop manager (like kde or gnome)
[09:25] <husher> eruin: but i don'd remember anything earth-shattering
[09:25] <eruin> husher, I'll take that as a no then, since you didnt even notice :-)
[09:25] <din> err i meant window manager
[09:25] <HaroldJohnson> din: I couldn't get xfce going.
[09:25] <din> HaroldJohnson, why not?
[09:25] <Echelon-H> how can i unzip tar.gz file?
[09:25] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: i'm not much into GUIs, so 'file manglers, desktop manglers, window manglers, etc"
[09:25] <HaroldJohnson> din: Not sure yet.
[09:25] <Razor-X> HaroldJohnson: so, have you installed much?
[09:25] <husher> eruin: or i'm not particularly observant, one of the two :)
[09:25] <din> Echelon-H, tar zxvf blah.tar.gz
[09:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi
[09:25] <tiglionabbit> Echelon-H: use file-roller, or the command tar xvzf
[09:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> samba dont works ...
[09:26] <mpmc> time to start installing apache...
[09:26] <acid2_> What do I need for command line ogg encoding?
[09:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> authenticating users...dont works
[09:26] <SuperLag> any !seen bots in here?
[09:26] <SuperLag> just wondering where tseng is/has been
[09:26] <tiglionabbit> SuperLag: yes
[09:26] <HappyFool> acid2_: oggenc (i think)
[09:26] <SuperLag> !seen tseng
[09:26] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'tseng', SuperLag
[09:26] <nalioth> acid2_: oggenc
[09:26] <acid2_> I searched synaptic for that, but could find it
[09:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> when i create a user in system, what i need todo for it be a samba user?
[09:26] <HaroldJohnson> Razor-X: No, not yet.  I booted up and saw gnome, tried to login, got an error, dropped to a failsafe terminal, install xfce4, didn't know how to start that, installed fluxbox, install wdm, now I'm trying to get fluxbox going.
[09:26] <acid2_> searched with synaptic*
[09:27] <Echelon-H> thanks din and tilionabbit
[09:27] <din> np
[09:27] <sunrex> ..
[09:27] <sunrex> ok..
[09:27] <Razor-X> HaroldJohnson: to cope in a terminal in the meantime
[09:27] <sunrex> how do i get sound...
[09:27] <Razor-X> sudo apt-get install twin
[09:27] <Razor-X> trust me, you'll thank me later
[09:27] <acid2_> sunrex, lose the ... man
[09:27] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: do you get a graphical login screen?
[09:27] <acid2_> :P
[09:27] <HaroldJohnson> Razor-X: I don't mind the terminal, but I want a GUI too, you know?
[09:27] <sunrex> Xine says its playing but theres no sound
[09:27] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I finally did today.
[09:28] <acid2_> sunrex, which audio output?
[09:28] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: ok then, at that screen, click 'sessions' and choose xfce4
[09:28] <husher> sunrex: did you check your mixer settings?
[09:28] <tiglionabbit> Echelon-H: if you're using the command, you can remember it like this: X for eXtract, V for Verbose (prints out what it's exctarcting), Z for gZip, and F for do it to this File
[09:28] <trebuchet> i've mounted my winxp ntfs drive to /mnt/win and am trying to chmod 707 it so i can access it as a normal user but its not working
[09:28] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I logged in but received an error saying the session lasted only 10 seconds because of blah blah blah.
[09:28] <husher> sunrex: sometimes they default to muted
[09:28] <Echelon-H> tiglionabbit, thanks
[09:28] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: that has nothing to do wiht xfce4
[09:28] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Okay, thanks, I'll try that.
[09:28] <mpmc> is there an audio mixer.. like windows.. so it plays each sound at once. and not after each other?
[09:28] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I'm going now to try.
[09:29] <tiglionabbit> lol, s/exctarcting/extracting/
[09:29] <trebuchet> everytime i chmod 707 /mnt/win it seems to work then i try to cd to it and i get permission denied
[09:29] <root________> heLLo again
[09:29] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you might like to read this http://linuz.sns.it/~max/twin/
[09:29] <acid2_> mpmc, of course
[09:29] <acid2_> alsa, esd etc do that
[09:29] <acid2_> if thats what you mean
[09:29] <bla1> any ideas on how to stop my ip from showing when i log into a chatroom?
[09:29] <adham> hey
[09:29] <acid2_> bla1, use a proxy?
[09:29] <root________> I'm on the ubuntu livecd now, but I don't know how to make the wireless work, so I'm using the local wired LAN.  how can I make the wireless LAN work ?
[09:29] <adham> could someone help me with one small thing
[09:29] <bla1> my isp's proxy?
[09:29] <mpmc> no i mean so.. it mixes them together not one at a time.
[09:29] <Razor-X> remember to run twin ;)
[09:30] <flankk> "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/automake/automake1.4_1.4-p6-8_all.deb  MD5Sum mismatch"
[09:30] <Razor-X> I told him to get twin, nalioth
[09:30] <acid2_> mpmc, oooo, im not sure
[09:30] <adham> someone
[09:30] <adham> anyone
[09:30] <adham> lol
[09:30] <husher> mpmc: use the esound sink
[09:30] <siorfin> i need help! im trying to download xfce4 metapackage and the dumbass us.archive.ubuntu.com server keeps giving some crap about md5sum mismatch how can i fix this
[09:30] <acid2_> adham, not with that attitude
[09:30] <bla1> flannk you need to edit your apt sources, from us.sources to ca.sources
[09:30] <HappyFool> adham: tell us what the problem is
[09:30] <adham> ok
[09:30] <acid2_> just ask the question and be patient
[09:30] <nalioth> Razor-X: best to show people things, rather than tell them things
[09:30] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Looks like I got that error again.
[09:30] <Razor-X> nalioth: how can he look at it when not in a GUI?
[09:31] <trebuchet> bla1: most people hide their ip by using a shell on another system to irc on... usually ones with quirky dns's like yo.momma.loves.my.shorts.com
[09:31] <Echelon-H> does anyonem know of a Ventrilo for linux?
[09:31] <tiglionabbit> I must say, I have trebuchet's question too.  How exactly do I make a mounted partition accessible to all users?
[09:31] <root________> trebuchet, most just use bnc for that
[09:31] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: at a failsafe terminal in your homedir, type "rm .ICEauthority"
[09:31] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: and then try to log back in to xfce
[09:31] <acid2_> I personally would get shell access to a machine, and run irssi proxy on it
[09:31] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: with ther permissions you pass in the fstab
[09:31] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: What is that removing, and why?
[09:32] <husher> Echelon-H: you mean just a voip softphone?
[09:32] <mpmc> how do I install apache1 not 2
[09:32] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: the .ICEauthority file is supposed to be read/write, but sometines it gets 'locked' by unknowing processes
[09:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know anything about samba?
[09:32] <Echelon-H> husher, huh? I mean Ventrilo.. You know.. Ventrilo :P
[09:32] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Okay, I'll try that
[09:33] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Not as much as I used to but shoot
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> windows xp asking for a password
[09:33] <HappyFool> mpmc: i see an 'apache' package which has version 1.3.33 (vs. apache2, which has version 2.0.53)
[09:33] <Echelon-H> husher, yes, it's some sort of VoIP thingy
[09:33] <husher> Echelon-H: the only Ventrilo i know of is some voice communications software, are you talking of something else?
[09:33] <anatole> re
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and as far as i know there isen't one
[09:33] <Echelon-H> husher, that's what im talking about./
[09:33] <anatole> having a strange problem here
[09:33] <anatole> gnome does not load, just in failsafe mode
[09:34] <anatole> itherwise it stops at "session manager proxy"
[09:34] <anatole> *otherwise
[09:34] <root________> heeeeeelp, how can I get the wireless LAN working on this desktop..  my girlfriend says that's the only way i can install Linux on her Lappy is if the wireless works perfectly >,.,<
[09:34] <husher> Echelon-H: i know of a few software phones for linux
[09:34] <din> Echelon-H, there is no client for linux, there is however a ventrilo server.
[09:34] <din> Echelon-H, try teamspeak as an alternative.
[09:34] <husher> root__: what's the problem?
[09:34] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Same user as what you login to Ubuntu with?
[09:34] <anatole> anyone could suggest something?
[09:34] <Razor-X> my emacs feels so nice...
[09:35] <Razor-X> I think I may switch to erc
[09:35] <din> root________, easy
[09:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats what i thought
[09:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but it dosen't work right
[09:35] <din> root________, what's the essid of the wireless connectioin?
[09:35] <freddy> fist of all root________, IRC'ING as root....bad practice
[09:35] <din> connection*
[09:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i try with my pass/logon and nothin
[09:35] <root________> husher, module loads, but the hardware won't actually connect to the wlan
[09:35] <root________> din, I have no clue
[09:35] <Echelon-H> din, All my buddies are using Ventrilo. Using teamspeak would bve as useful as talking to myself
[09:35] <baggetFUNKI> hello
[09:35] <Echelon-H> And I know there's a Server-Side Ventrilo for linux
[09:35] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Did you look in /var/log/smb.conf ?
[09:35] <baggetFUNKI> how can i set up a twinview setup with one monitor on dvi?
[09:35] <freddy> irc'ing as root = bad :(
[09:36] <din> root________, well is it a linksys wireless router?
[09:36] <root________> freddy, and it just looks like I'm IRCng as root
[09:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nope i'll check and let you know
[09:36] <freddy> yes. it looks.
[09:36] <root________> din, it is a local linksys wireless router, yes
[09:36] <husher> root_______: what is the essid listed in 'iwconfig' ?
[09:36] <din> brb
[09:36] <trebuchet> pretending to be irc'ing as root often gets you kicked
[09:36] <Razor-X> anyone here use emacs terminal?
[09:36] <baggetFUNKI> anybody got any experience with xinerama?
[09:36] <siorfin> why do i keep getting md5sum errors on us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[09:36] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Sorry, I meant smb.log or something similar
[09:36] <root________> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[09:37] <freddy> what chipset root________ ?
[09:37] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: have you tried setting the password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a <user>' ? (not sure if this is necessary)
[09:37] <kenny> hi guys
[09:37] <root________> freddy, atheros
[09:37] <jasoncohen> i tried both human gdm themes and i can only reboot, shutdown, change language or change session. there's no option to use the XDMCP screen
[09:37] <jasoncohen> why not?
[09:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no i haven't
[09:37] <kenny> I need help with DVD authoring
[09:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but i don't want there to be any password or login
[09:37] <din> root________, iwconfig eth1 essid linksys
[09:37] <din> root________, dhclient eth1
[09:37] <nalioth> kenny: use k3b
[09:37] <din> bbl, work to do
[09:37] <HappyFool> siorfin: change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[09:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> every computer on my network has to have access to this box
[09:38] <kenny> I dont have KDe installed
[09:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or a drive on it i mean
[09:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want to remove the password
[09:38] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: then you need 'guest ok = yes' lines in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:38] <nalioth> kenny: that doesnt matter, k3b will install and run
[09:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk]
[09:38] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i think they're per share
[09:38] <root________> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[09:38] <root________>     SET failed on device eth1 ; No such device.
[09:38] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Set the share as guest
[09:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how?
[09:39] <marc> lo
[09:39] <kenny> k3b + KDElibs = more bloat than i want lol
[09:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> in that config?
[09:39] <bddebian> Oh, nm..  HappyFool was right
[09:39] <mik__> hi, why there is xcdroast in gtk-1 (and also amule in gtk-1) ??
[09:39] <kenny> I have DVDstyleer 1.3.1 and it needs jpegtompeg, were can i find this
[09:39] <mik__> is there any place when can I download them in gtk-2
[09:39] <marc> Is there anyway to get application menu bars to act like OSX in Gnome?
[09:39] <nalioth> mik__: because nobody wants to enable them to use gtk2
[09:40] <Razor-X> nalioth: ya know, BASHBurner doesen't work thanks to a lib we don't have
[09:40] <nalioth> marc: use superkaramba
[09:40] <husher> root_______: does iwconfig list any interface with wireless extensions?
[09:40] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: You're a star.  But there's a problem; when I log into xfce, there's a little silouette of a mouse in the middle of the screen.
[09:40] <nalioth> Razor-X: really? what lib is that?
[09:40] <mik__> nalioth: but why? Looks better
[09:40] <root________> husher, nein
[09:40] <mik__> nalioth: for me
[09:40] <marc> and that will make the menu bars appear at the top when the app has focus?
[09:40] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: thats the mascot, don't worry, it doesnt eat much
[09:40] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: LOL
[09:40] <kenny> Does anyone know were i can find jpegtompeg ubuntu package
[09:40] <husher> root______: and the modules are loaded?
[09:41] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I'm going to try using it, now.
[09:41] <Razor-X> nalioth: libvorbis some version
[09:41] <root________> husher, ath_pci and all it's sub-modules are loaded, yes
[09:41] <nalioth> mik__: i just answered your question to the best of my knowledge, i personally don't care what an app looks like as long as it works
[09:41] <Echelon-H> lol anyone tried weather plugin for xfce?
[09:41] <freddy> what you guys prefer gtkpod or rythmbox?
[09:41] <nalioth> Razor-X: you got to be <censord> me
[09:41] <mik__> nalioth: ok
[09:41] <nalioth> Razor-X: libvorbis is f/oss
[09:41] <siorfin> happyfool, that did it thanks
[09:41] <mik__> thnx
[09:41] <Razor-X> nalioth: hmmm?
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bdebbian can i pastebin to you the config file and you can tell me what i need to do
[09:41] <freddy> root________, why irc'ing as root? that is bad bad :(
[09:41] <Razor-X> the version-number isn't correct
[09:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i am having trouble unsderstanding it
[09:42] <nalioth> Razor-X: libvorbis is freely available
[09:42] <Razor-X> nalioth: but not the version in the repos
[09:42] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Sure
[09:42] <husher> nalioth: rythmbox
[09:42] <Razor-X> which means I have to compile it on my own ;)
[09:42] <Razor-X> I mean...
[09:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bdebbian thanx
[09:42] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Or just /query me
[09:42] <nalioth> Razor-X: ah, version mismatch
[09:42] <Razor-X> the version bashBurn needs is higher than the one in the repos
[09:42] <freddy> husher, you talking to me? :D
[09:42] <freddy> nalioth, heya!!
[09:43] <husher> freddy: heh, yea, oops
[09:43] <nalioth> Razor-X: not a problem since most users want futureports enabled anyway
[09:43] <nalioth> howdy, freddy
[09:43] <Razor-X> futureports? ;)
[09:43] <Echelon-H> do i need tyo reset the xfce in order for the weather plugin to work?
[09:43] <freddy> husher, why rythmbox? well...the two of them look like itunes in some way hehehe
[09:43] <nalioth> Razor-X: you know what i mean, most folks want bling over stability
[09:43] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: It's a *really* satisfying feeling to finally see a desktop on this old bird...
[09:43] <root________> caaan..  anyone help me still ?  wireless is the one thing I need working to convert my girlfriend to Linux :)
[09:44] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: xfce may be too much for 64MB to handle; I may have to switch to fluxbox.
[09:44] <husher> freddy: yea, that's pretty much it.  it could do with an eq, however.
[09:44] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: congratulations (and what a wiki i can see coming out of your experience)
[09:44] <adham> hello fellow linux users
[09:44] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you could also try matchbox
[09:44] <kenny> hi asham
[09:44] <root________> just for the record, lspci spits out: 0000:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[09:44] <kenny> srry adham
[09:44] <Echelon-H> fluxbox = empty screen :\
[09:44] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I'll take you up on that (the wiki).
[09:44] <Razor-X> nalioth: that's true
[09:44] <Echelon-H> I hate that :P
[09:45] <husher> root______: have you looked in System -> Administration -> Networking ?
[09:45] <Victus> where can I find a xine plugin for firefox?
[09:45] <ompaul> root________, system - administration - networking might be a good first step
[09:45] <kenny> vic u can mozplugin
[09:45] <freddy> i wonder if there is a way to change the color of the window border in a theme.....does anyone know?
[09:45] <nalioth> marc: the link you showed me is an image of a macintosh desktop
[09:45] <adham> who has mplayer
[09:45] <Razor-X> hmmm..... I need to learn emacs regular expressions
[09:45] <HaroldJohnson> Echelon-H: What do you do once the fluxbox screen comes up?  Like how to you access the terminal, or the apps, etc.?
[09:45] <root________> thanx :D
[09:45] <nalioth> marc: superkaramba has a 'dock' widget (superkaramba is similar to gdesklets)
[09:45] <HappyFool> root________: looked here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards ?
[09:46] <husher> HaroldJohnson: right-click on the desktop
[09:46] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I dig Ubuntu's color scheme.
[09:46] <HaroldJohnson> husher: Thanks
[09:46] <HappyFool> root________: i see a ar5212 entry on that page
[09:46] <marc> I see
[09:46] <freddy> i wanna change the color of the window border of this theme....where should i look? anyone have an idea?
[09:46] <marc> nalioth,  isnt the dock at the bottom though?
[09:46] <husher> HaroldJohnson: the menu file is in .fluxbox/menu i think, you can edit it there
[09:46] <root________> looking now HappyFool, and everyone else, the Network Settings page doesn't have my wireless card listed
[09:47] <freddy> ndiswrapper
[09:47] <HaroldJohnson> Everyone: I noticed, from the Breezy list, that x-chat is now being accessed (whatever that means).
[09:47] <ompaul> freddy, system preferences theme
[09:47] <nalioth> marc: if you browse around, further at gnome-look, you'll see the superkaramba 'dock' in action
[09:47] <HaroldJohnson> husher: Thank you.      Go to the fluxbox website and download their menu generator
[09:48] <root________> so everything that uses the AR5212 should work out of the box, but mine doesn't....  how do I make it work ?  u,.,u
[09:49] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: flux
[09:49] <marc> Ok i will take a look, and super karamba works flawlessly with Gnome? I thought it was designed for kde
[09:49] <ompaul> freddy, so customise it, or am I not understanding something here
[09:49] <nalioth> marc: you can use kde stuff under gnome, and vice-versa
[09:49] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Okay, I'm going to play with xfce for awhile now.
[09:50] <husher> marc: i'm using Kompose under Gnome, and that was written for kde
[09:50] <Stan2> I seem to have lost my
[09:50] <kenny> yea it used to, i remember using it with Debian
[09:50] <Stan2> programs menu, etc
[09:50] <Stan2> how do i get it back?
[09:50] <Echelon-H> how can i use the mail checker on xfce to check my gmail?
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> you mean the top panel in gnome?
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> Echelon-H: I believe you just type into it "mail.google.com"
[09:51] <marc> husher, i see thanks
[09:51] <kenny> can u share files in IRC chat
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> Echelon-H: but I haven't tried it
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> kenny: using dcc, yes
[09:51] <kenny> DCC?
[09:51] <freddy> gnome = DA BOMB
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> kenny: your client probably has information on it, which it may display if you say /help dcc
[09:52] <root________> the website for the card says to use "madwifi" how do I make the livecd use that ?
[09:52] <Kyral> Whats up for the next GNOME anyway?
[09:52] <sergio> hello
[09:52] <kenny> i use the one that comes with ubuntu
[09:52] <freddy> root________, show the card a bush picture....and you got a madwifi :P
[09:52] <root________> lol
[09:52] <husher> Echelon-H: i'll bet you have to enable pop access in Gmail to get it to work
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> kenny: there are several that come with ubuntu.  You mean xchat?
[09:52] <vagamente> hi all... is there ne1 using audiogalaxy2?
[09:53] <Echelon-H> it asks for mail box
[09:53] <Echelon-H> and I allowed pop access
[09:53] <Echelon-H> I got mail box area, new mail command and command
[09:53] <Echelon-H> thats all
[09:53] <husher> root______: have you installed ubuntu yet?  or is this all on the livecd?
[09:53] <Stan2> How do i restore default panels, please???
[09:53] <husher> Echelon-H: point it at pop.gmail.com
[09:54] <Echelon-H> husher, how can it know my own email? i mean user/ pass
[09:54] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I just sent first email using Ubuntu.  It was a Gmail.  I'm so excited!
[09:54] <root________> husher, this is teh livecd..  girlfriend won't let me install ubuntu intil I can get the livecd working and everything, and wants me to install over wireless if possible, too
[09:54] <nalioth> Echelon-H: the mail checkin thing has to support ssl logins (google is secure)
[09:54] <husher> Echelon-H: that's a good quesion.
[09:54] <HappyFool> Stan2: have you got at least one panel?
[09:54] <Echelon-H> husher, :)
[09:54] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Once Firefox finally loaded up, it's running good on xfce so far.
[09:54] <Stan2> happyfool - yes
[09:54] <Kyral> root________, you don't need Net Access to install Ubuntu
[09:54] <HappyFool> Stan2: which one?
[09:55] <husher> root______: well, a lot of things that don't work on the livecd may work once it's installed
[09:55] <Stan2> happyfool bottom
[09:55] <kenny> Has anyone got DVDShrink/Decrypter working under wine and how stable/fast is it
[09:55] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you might want to run kazehakaze (it uses the gecko engine, but is a bit lighter running)
[09:55] <husher> Stan2: is the whole menu system gone, or are the menus empty?
[09:55] <vagamente> need some  help with my audiogalaxy2... anyone?
[09:55] <HappyFool> Stan2: ok, find some free space on it, then right-click on that space and choose 'New panel'
[09:55] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I'll write that down for later.
[09:55] <root________> husher, she insists that I be able to attest that it WILL WITHOUT A DOUBT work...
[09:55] <Stan2> happyfool ok
[09:55] <HappyFool> Stan2: the top panel should be added -- but it'll be empty
[09:55] <Stan2> happyfool yeah
[09:56] <HappyFool> Stan2: then, right-click on the top-panel, and choose 'Add to panel'
[09:56] <Stan2> happyfool how do i add programs menu?
[09:56] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I actually have preferred the plain-jane Mozilla to Firefox, though Firefox is gorgeous.
[09:56] <Stan2> ok
[09:56] <Stan2> application laucher?
[09:56] <HappyFool> Stan2: scroll down and select 'Menu bar'
[09:56] <Stan2> ok thanks
[09:56] <root________> can y'all here in teh IRC channel assure me it will work ?  I can spend hours in here with y'all, if that's what it takes to be able to make it work...
[09:56] <Stan2> thanks a lot
[09:56] <kenny> Has anyone got DVDShrink/Decrypter working under wine and how stable/fast is it
[09:56] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: I feel like Charlie in the Chocolate Factory right now.
[09:56] <kenny> ?
[09:57] <HappyFool> Stan2: you can also add the clock on the right, and the 'Notification area' -- that should more-or-less restore the panel
[09:57] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: great!
[09:57] <Stan2> happyfool thanks