[07:10] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: fyi. just to close the loop. found that gvfs has been moved to /run/user/<you>/gvfs/<complicated name>
[07:10] <DrManhattan> I used to use that back when I used centos
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !info firestarter | DrManhattan
[07:10] <DrManhattan> before I cared about security :))
[07:10] <DrManhattan> Nice thanks
[07:10] <adknight87> lotusphsycheje: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/121960/49/
[07:11] <nowayride> rinzler: So nothing changed at all? No software upgrades or anything?
[07:11] <nowayride> rinzler: And keys were not regenerated/removed on either machine?
[07:11] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: are you missing gvfs dir from your home folder?
[07:11] <rinzler> nowayride: none of the above
[07:12] <nowayride> rinzler: And you verified it's the server that's changing?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:omg what a nice app mate, tnx alot!! been looking for that long time
[07:13] <rinzler> nowayride: pretty durn
[07:13] <nowayride> rinzler: Because if your client's key file changed or you authenticate to a "new" host, it will ask you. If you authenticate to the same host and the key is different, I'm pretty sure it blocks you from connecting
[07:14] <rinzler> nowayride: yep.
[07:14] <rinzler> nowayride: that's my problem
[07:15] <nowayride> Which one, client preventing logon?
[07:15] <rinzler> nowayride: I can fix it, but I don't understand what the problem is to begin with
[07:15] <rinzler> nowayride: server changing keys
[07:15] <nowayride> rinzler: right, you can always grab the new key but it defeats the purpose of them.
[07:16] <rinzler> nowayride: yep. I don't know why the server changes keys
[07:16] <nowayride> rinzler: honestly nothing should be willingly changing authentication server side because that's a huge security risk, any custom scripts or cron jobs possibly?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: yeah its not bad at all :)
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: add your local news too (bbc has nice rss feeds)
[07:16] <nowayride> rinzler: Or is there anything that triggers it? Is it always when you bounce your router?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:yeah i got tons of feeds, always used google reader, but those days are over now :p
[07:17] <rinzler> nowayride: I've got an rsync cron job on the client for backup, but nothing on the server. It usually triggers on a reboot, but it just triggered on a router reset
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: http://imagebin.org/236793
[07:21] <adknight87> Anyone know how to monitor active data transfer on open connections?
[07:21] <rinzler> adknight87: a packet sniffer, perhaps?
[07:22] <adknight87> rinzler: I was just wanting the active connections and the data rates
[07:22] <nowayride> adknight87: netstat?
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> adknight87:like a upload/download bandwith monitor?
[07:22] <Gnomex> hi guys..
[07:23] <Gnomex> can i ask Something..
[07:23] <adknight87> More so ip address download/up rate
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Gnomex:shoot
[07:23] <Gnomex> yes Lotus..
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !info etherape | adknight87
[07:24] <Gnomex> i'm On with Ubuntu 12.04 lts..
[07:24] <ed_money> how can i determine if my wireless chipset supoorts monitor mode (RFMON) ?
[07:24] <Gnomex> want ask something..
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Gnomex
[07:25] <adknight87> !spam | lotuspsychje
[07:25] <Gnomex> Wait..
[07:25] <adknight87> LOL
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> ?
[07:25] <adknight87> !ask | lotuspsychje
[07:26] <adknight87> :P
[07:26] <almoxarife> !wireshark
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> adknight87:dont abuse the bot for no reason
[07:26] <adknight87> Don't get your panties in a not
[07:26] <adknight87> knot
[07:26] <nowayride> rinzler: All I could really find is http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/support/20120308/upgrade-rsa-key-changed-and-ssh-issue
[07:26] <LoSquartatore> try?
[07:26] <adknight87> I'm friendly and here to help
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> adknight87:i didnt ask or spammed...
[07:27] <almoxarife> adknight87: you want wireshark to monitor a data line(yours of course)
[07:28] <adknight87> almoxaife: Already have it I just want the most data used to connect ip address was wondering if there was a no brainer command for terminal
[07:29] <adknight87> etherape is pretty
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> adknight87:your welcome :p
[07:29] <Gnomex> i got Problem to Run some file in terminal permision denied..~!! why..??
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> !details | Gnomex
[07:30] <nowayride> Gnomex: what user are you running it from (and are you using sudo)
[07:30] <adknight87> Holy crap I have like a zillion ip's
[07:30] <Gnomex> I'm On Ubuntu 12.04lts i want run example.. gnome.pl
[07:30] <somsip> Gnomex: chmod +x perhaps?
[07:31] <adknight87> I take that back it's a massive blob
[07:31] <almoxarife> Gnomex: why do you want to run 'gnome.pl'
[07:31] <Heather_> how can I create raid in 12.10? Been searching on google without any success
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !raid | Heather_
[07:32] <adknight87> !unity
[07:33] <adknight87> !fglrx
[07:33] <Gnomex> Okey i told yaa.. just wanna try Slowloris.pl  nuthing much.. LOL~!!
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> adknight87: use !trigger > yournick, dont spam the channel
[07:34] <somsip> Gnomex: try 'python Slowloris.pl'
[07:34] <nowayride> Lols slowloris
[07:35] <Gnomex> LOL
[07:36] <Gnomex> bash: ./slowloris.pl: Permission denied <<-- looking like this
[07:36] <nowayride> Gnomex not gonna have an ISP soon :)
[07:36] <Gnomex> means what..??
[07:37] <nowayride> Er, I'd have to assume you know what slowloris.pl does...
[07:38] <Gnomex> yeah i know.. flooding server right..
[07:38] <Heather_> lotuspsychje what is the ubuntu alternate install disk?
[07:38] <iamzim> Gnomex: do you trust the source of the file?
[07:38] <nowayride> Gnomex: You'll get reported quick.. just sayin
[07:39] <nowayride> INC Guard lul
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> Heather_:you can download it from ubuntu website, for alternative options in ubuntu install
[07:39] <somsip> Heather_: it's been discontinued. The minimal install is the other one, IIRC
[07:39] <Gnomex> nowayride What ur mean..?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> oh
[07:40] <nowayride> Gnomex: any half decent hosing company would put DoS protection up quick, that script's been out a while
[07:41] <Gnomex> Owwh.. that means that script out of date for a now.?? Hmmm..
[07:41] <nowayride> Gnomex: not that it's out of date, but that technique has been out for a few years and most DDoS mitigation tools have had time to update it. Think of it like trying to use an old trojan on a computer with an updated antivirus
[07:41]  * iamzim -_-"
[07:42] <Gnomex> Hmm.. Oowwh.. i see tat.. Thanks for tat info Nowayride..
[07:42] <Heather_> somsip where can i find the minimal install?
[07:42] <Gnomex> :D i'm Noob in this DdOs program
[07:42] <Gnomex> :P
[07:42] <Heather_> nvm found it
[07:43] <somsip> Heather_: k
[07:43] <nowayride> Gnomex: Likely you'll shut down the server until either the admin catches on or if they have HTTP monitoring when it pops up, then they put something like Guard in place and you might get some legitimate traffic blocked
[07:43] <Heather_> Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" Minimal CD for raid install right?
[07:43] <somsip> Heather_: can't help you on the raid bit, but the rest looks ok
[07:43] <nowayride> It could work but it's not worth risking your internet service (or freedoms depending on country) just to annoy a sysadmin
[07:43] <somsip> !illegal | nowayride
[07:44] <moose-machine> hi. my laptop is connected to my TV via HDMI. I have noticed that some applications, send a crackling noise via the HDMI output (they sound ok on the PC's speakers. any idea what could the problem be?
[07:44] <Gnomex> i got it Nowayride.. :D thanks of Lot.. :D
[07:44] <nowayride> Um, somsip you should link that to Gnomex, he's the one trying to hack someone. I'm telling him why it won't work and why it's a bad idea. Thanks though
[07:44] <somsip> nowayride: I understand. The factoid was more direct than it needed to be. thanks for being reasonable
[07:45] <Gnomex> Hmm.. somsip can u give me tat link..??
[07:45] <almoxarife> Gnomex: you are done, no more discussion about your lame ddos script
[07:45] <nowayride> somsip: No worries, I work in the receiving end of these topics and get to deal with the hosts down :)
[07:45] <somsip> Gnomex: no - I'm not helping you with this now I know what the script does
[07:46] <somsip> nowayride: ditto. Fail2ban here...
[07:46] <nowayride> somsip: I'm the guy rebooting celerons that get DoSd
[07:46] <nowayride> But yeah, Fail2ban is really nice
[07:46] <Gnomex> ok.. Thanks VeryMuch.. :D nice Channel..
[07:52] <f00dMonsta_> hi, I'm running a VPS with Ubuntu server 64bit. I install MySQL and with the default settings it's using up 500M of ram... something I'm doing wrong?
[07:56] <klauel14> hello
[07:57] <kok> hey
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> :j #mysql
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> f00dMonsta_:you could try #mysql
[07:58] <f00dMonsta_> ok thx
[07:58] <somsip> f00dMonsta_: check the some of the obvious settings in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[08:02] <marandi> hi guys , i want to a command ( related to postgres ) work in background so i close ssh connection in ubuntu , how can i do that ?
[08:02] <somsip> marandi: run it in screen on the remote server?
[08:02] <llutz_> marandi: use nohup
[08:03] <llutz_> marandi: use nohup / disown
[08:05] <marandi> llutz_: i used disown , i mean i run my command ( like find / ) and then i press CTRL+Z , the disown -h and exit ( that what my friend told me ) but how can i check if the command still ran or when its gonna finished ?
[08:05] <adknight87> Jump in the line
[08:05] <hkBst> I removed libunity-webapps and deps which included unity-desktop. How do I get them back?
[08:06] <adknight87> apt-get install unity
[08:07] <hkBst> adknight87: seems plausible, thanks
[08:09] <llutz_> marandi: check processlist
[08:12] <phako> hi
[08:12] <MrSolitaryReaper> Hi all
[08:13] <phako> ppa question: I've dput a few packages, then realized that I didn't update launchpad with my new GPG key. Did that now. dput refuses to re-upload the packages, will the ppa accept the package automatically or do I have to upload a new version?
[08:14] <MrSolitaryReaper> I have got some serious problem with my nvidia onboard graphics
[08:14] <MrSolitaryReaper> anyone there?
[08:15] <dysun_> hi all
[08:18] <Valtam> is it safe to delete all the contents of the folder .rpmdb in ~/ ?
[08:19] <sispro> test
[08:19] <somsip> !test | sispro
[08:21] <phako> ah. need to re-upload.
[08:21] <phako> can I specify another ppa as a build-time dependency only?
[08:22] <greencat> wow
[08:22] <SuperJ> hello
[08:22] <greencat> hello
[08:24] <greencat> noone here
[08:25] <banned> hi
[08:25] <greencat> hi
[08:25] <banned> !list
[08:26] <greencat> i am looking for a channel to chatter
[08:26] <llutz_> !ot | greencat
[08:33] <yuvraj23> hi
[08:34] <yuvraj23> Anyone there?
[08:42] <biopyte> hi, sometimes i  notice strong but unexpected harddrive activity. is there a tool to monitor what process is reading/writing the drive?
[08:42] <llutz_> !info iotop | biopyte:
[08:43] <biopyte> ok, thank you
[08:44] <ms_> almoxarife, are you still there?? thank you that my shut down button is now working, :) but I can't change my background yet.
[08:44] <rschu68_>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[08:45] <rschu68_>  /ignore -channels * * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[08:45] <rschu68_>  /ignore * * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[08:46] <almoxarife> ms_: not sure how that is done on your wm
[08:46] <llutz_> rschu68_: no leading space in front of the slash /
[08:46] <alumno> vbtyg
[08:46] <ms_> almoxarife, what is wm?
[08:47] <Kartagis> cough coughwindow managercough cough
[08:47] <alumno> ollaaaaaaa
[08:48] <ms_> Kartagis, ahahahahaha. ok :)
[08:48] <alumno> ok
[08:48] <almoxarife> ms_: your windows manager, xfce?
[08:48] <alumno> wat
[08:48] <Kartagis> what? I was just coughing
[08:49] <llutz_> window manager, no "s" </nitpick>
[08:49] <ms_> almoxarife, aghhh, wm and wm tweaks are not activated.
[08:51] <almoxarife>  mayonaise, spell check please
[08:52] <ms_> almoxarife, window manager and window manager tweaks are not activated!!!
[08:54] <almoxarife> ms_: sounds complicated, i would get an easier WM, like KDE
[08:55] <alumno_> vbuhio
[08:56] <alumno_> ola carra pedo
[08:56] <ms_> almoxarife, ok, doesn't matter I'll do my own research, but....
[08:56] <Ray2> I am booted to Ubuntu-10.04...Iwant to
[08:56] <alumno_> gilipollas
[08:57] <Kartagis> heh. I edited /etc/sudoers and it seems I made a typo there, now I can't sudo. what to do?
[08:57] <ms_> almoxarife, how to run a command when I open my desktop???
[08:57] <Flannel> Kartagis: You'll need to reboot into the recovery console and fix it.  In the future, use visudo to edit sudoers, because it's designed for his (it does syntax checking prior to saving, so this doesn't happen)
[08:58] <llutz_> Kartagis: you can't use sudo now? use recovery-mode/a live-cd and fix
[08:58] <almoxarife> ms_: tried alt-f2?
[08:58] <ms_> for example, how to run "metacity" when I just open my desktop?
[08:58] <ms_> almoxarife, I'm on xubuntu, and alt-f2 do nothing! :(
[08:59] <almoxarife> ms_: open a terminal, use terminal?
[08:59] <alumno_> im the best omn the earl
[08:59] <ms_> almoxarife, and?
[08:59] <llutz_> alumno_:  Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[08:59] <almoxarife> ms_: and what?
[08:59] <Kartagis> brb then, thanks Flannel and llutz_
[09:00] <alumno_> tu putiing mum,
[09:00] <ms_> almoxarife, how to run "metacity" as default when I just open my desktop??
[09:01] <almoxarife> llutz_: he is using profanity in portuguese slang
[09:01] <almoxarife> llutz_: he is using profanity in portuguese slang, alumno_
[09:01] <llutz_> almoxarife: i thought so
[09:01] <llutz_> !ops | alumno_
[09:01] <alumno_> me nu6jmnujn76yhnrtggvcr4l,
[09:02] <almoxarife> ms_: you need to ask questions without my nick, thnks
[09:02] <Abhijit> hello. which one should I get for software and android development point of view? 12.10 or 12.04
[09:02] <Abhijit> help
[09:03] <alumno_> n
[09:03] <ms_> almoxarife, ok. ok.
[09:03] <alumno_> me hablais en español
[09:03] <ms_> help, help.   how to run "metacity" by default when I just open my desktop??
[09:04] <Ray2> I am booted to Ubuntu-10.04...I want to edit a file in Mageia2..I open menu>places>home folder>Mageia2 (mounts) I get a window with the header Mageia file browser the file is in /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance...but it open the file that is in Ubuntu instead of Mageia
[09:05] <alvesjnr> hi all. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and I'm trying to upgrade it to 12.10, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[09:06] <erkon> man do not 12.04 is LTS it is better I think
[09:06] <msx> alvesjnr: forget any stupid guide
[09:06] <alvesjnr> but on step 2 that box ""new ubuntu release" doesn't appears in my computer
[09:06] <Abhijit> alvesjnr, change the setting in update to show all next release instead of only next lts release
[09:07] <dcherniv> alvesjnr, LTS releases do not upgrade to the next release
[09:07] <msx> alvesjnr: just open a terminal and issue: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apg-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <Abhijit> dcherniv, they can
[09:07] <llutz_> msx: which won't do a version-upgrade, fail
[09:07] <alumno__> mk
[09:07] <erkon> Could anyone help me to find out why I can not install any old ubuntu releases with netinstall?
[09:07] <dcherniv> alvesjnr, not by default, alvesjnr see above what Abhijit said
[09:07] <msx> dcherniv: you can force to upgrade any lts to the next release available if you want, i already did that with my 12.04 server to the .10
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> erkon  because they are eol, could be one reason
[09:08] <erkon> I see that old mini CD are available to download, but when I try to them I do not get installer
[09:08] <alumno__> ME VAIS  COMER EL RABO ESTRANGEROS DE MIOERDA LOS PUTOS CHHEFACH
[09:08] <alvesjnr> thanks all
[09:08] <erkon> what is eol?
[09:08] <dcherniv> erkon, servers are probably offline.
[09:08] <dcherniv> erkon, end of life
[09:08] <Abhijit> hello. which one should I get for software and android development point of view? 12.10 or 12.04
[09:08] <msx> llutz_: suck me, i didn't complete my explanation
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> erkon  end of life, dead, no longer available
[09:08] <alumno__> HELLO RTU PUTA MADRE
[09:08] <msx> llutz_: fail on you :D
[09:08] <Abhijit> !eol | erkon
[09:08] <erkon> are you sure that it not possible to install old releases with netinstall
[09:09] <Abhijit> which one is better guys? 12.10 or 12.04?
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> erkon  now you know why
[09:09] <erkon> I check the archives there are directories on them  with the old ubuntus
[09:09] <iceroot> Abhijit: both a fine
[09:09] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Often when I open an e-mail in my mail client Thunderbird 16.0.2 that it fetched from my IMAP account the attachments (like JPEG files) are only shown partially. How can I prevent this?
[09:09] <dcherniv> Abhijit, if you're want to do active development i wouldnt go with ubuntu in the first place
[09:09] <iceroot> dcherniv: why?
[09:10] <Abhijit> iceroot, ok i want to use it for heavy development
[09:10] <msx> alvesjnr: nevermind, then issue 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d'
[09:10] <Abhijit> dcherniv, 12.10 and 12.04 are ubuntus only
[09:10] <almoxarife> erkon: if you really want to you should be able to install what ever release, as long as the archive is still alive
[09:10] <iceroot> Abhijit: and what is "heavy development"?
[09:10] <alumno> jq pasa chatiras y chatiros
[09:10] <Abhijit> dcherniv, sorry did not read the not. then what should i use?
[09:10] <alumno> olaaaaaa
[09:10] <Abhijit> iceroot, web, software and andorid
[09:10] <dcherniv> iceroot, i just prefer a source-based distro for development
[09:10] <Abhijit> development
[09:10] <alumno> efhyegbvrrw5ghbrñotnhghbvnwrejighiu
[09:10] <alumno> 4rhgrtvhgbgbkjg
[09:10] <msx> alumno: haha, puto troll!
[09:10] <alumno>   ihbhplñohujootyolk frdsreffdr
[09:10] <msx> xD
[09:11] <alumno> q dices
[09:11] <iceroot> Abhijit: every linux distribution can do that
[09:11] <alumno> q se donde vivesssss
[09:11] <alumno>  troll tu
[09:11] <msx> alumno: hahahah
[09:11] <iceroot> dcherniv: and we prefer a not rolling release which is stable
[09:11] <alumno> pos te reviento
[09:11] <Abhijit> iceroot, not every. the oscommerce is not working on opensuse. it works on ubuntu though
[09:11] <dcherniv> Abhijit, ubuntu is fine, 12.10 is probably better since its got more recent packages
[09:11] <msx> alumno: you should talk english here bro,
[09:11] <alumno> q vdicessss
[09:11] <Abhijit> dcherniv, ok
[09:12] <alumno> do you like pistolitas
[09:12] <dcherniv> iceroot, good choice too
[09:12] <erkon> almoxarife: well it looks like 10.04 is not dead, but netinstaller does not download any installer components
[09:12] <msx> alumno:    alumno | q se donde vivesssss xD jaja que risa
[09:12] <erkon> I tried with 8.04, same thing
[09:12] <erkon> I tried with 12.04 and it works
[09:12] <iceroot> Abhijit: for a stable system with a long term support i would suggest to use 12.04
[09:12] <iceroot> Abhijit: but 12.10 is fine too, so its your choice
[09:13] <Abhijit> iceroot, ok
[09:13] <alumno> ok me da
[09:13] <Abhijit> iceroot, the lts dont get latest packes over time i noticed.
[09:13] <iceroot> Abhijit: i am fine with my 12.04 here asa production system
[09:13] <alumno> me da igualllll
[09:13] <iceroot> Abhijit: the same for 12.10
[09:13] <cabra> ,ll,t,lrffffff
[09:13] <alumno_> como te llamas ?
[09:13] <alumno> bhjvvbjkfsgvfdjhbvdfbv
[09:13] <alumno> vuzhsfrgv
[09:13] <alumno> asjnvjarfg
[09:13] <alumno> grnfgbv
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> erkon  we explained why taht is, 8.04 is no longer supported, use something more recent
[09:13] <FloodBot1> alumno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <alumno> rgjan
[09:13] <alumno> granv
[09:13] <rschu68_>  /ignore *  JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[09:13] <Abhijit> iceroot, ok
[09:13] <cabra> qe dices puton
[09:13] <iceroot> Abhijit: a released ubuntu version will NEVER get newer software (some exceptions like firefox, thunderbird, libreoffice)
[09:13] <alumno_> Q es esto?
[09:13] <cabra> ujdfjfdjkfdjkfdjfejevujdfhreierohierhiorehifjkkfjddfioijoiojeiohiojeioheioeioerhioerhioioeri´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´fh<j
[09:13] <iceroot> Abhijit: only security and bug fixes
[09:14] <alumno_> no se entiende nada
[09:14] <alumno_> asdfghjkl
[09:14] <alumno_> nused fiksjf
[09:14] <llutz_> !ops | alumno_ troll, spam, bad language,
[09:14] <iceroot> Abhijit: stop it please, we told you to speak english
[09:14] <cabra> joni la gente esta mui loca tio
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> the channel is under attack
[09:14] <erkon> MonkeyDust: 10.04 does not download too
[09:14] <Abhijit> iceroot, ok but latest ppa are also available to newer versions and not to lts i think. so i decided to get 12.10
[09:14] <erkon> MonkeyDust: 10.04 does not download either
[09:14] <iceroot> Abhijit: ppas are also available for the lts versions, there is no difference
[09:14] <erkon> 10.04 I think is not dead
[09:15] <iceroot> Abhijit: but 12.10 is fine
[09:15] <Abhijit> ok
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> erkon  yeah, try something more recent, now stop about it, please
[09:15] <iceroot> erkon: its not dead, its still supported
[09:15] <msx> llutz_: aww come on, don't be sheriff, alumno_ is just a lovely troll :(
[09:15] <nowayride> 10.04 server is supported for a few more years, but isn't desktop EOL soon?
[09:15] <praveenmarkandu> hi
[09:16] <iceroot> nowayride: desktop is eol with 13.04 release
[09:16] <llutz_> msx: trolls are never "lovely"
[09:16] <iceroot> nowayride: server with 15.04 release
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> after stepping away from my computer
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> my wireless diesconnects sayinng authetication required
[09:16] <nowayride> iceroot: yeah.. that was it
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> is some sort of aggressive power management happening
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> how do i stop it
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> using a bcm 4312
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> i use bw43 and it seems to work fine, when im at the computer
[09:16] <msx> llutz_: wrong, they are allways lovely, specially because they make nervous the so called lawful correct people >:D
[09:17] <erkon> It does not make any sense to keep old mini CD on the minimal install web site  if only the newest one works.This is ridiculous. Ubuntu should write this on it web site
[09:17] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: you mean it happens when idle?
[09:17] <iceroot> erkon: the netinstall is of course still working for all older releases which are still supported
[09:17] <bamboos> any experiance with eGalax drivers?
[09:17] <llutz_> msx: drop it, i'm too old to waste my time/bandwidth with those infantile idi.ts
[09:17] <iceroot> erkon: netinstall is not only for the latest release
[09:18] <erkon> iceroot: well I tried all of them at least 3 and then DO NOT WORK
[09:18] <erkon> only 12.04
[09:18] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: yeah
[09:18] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: seems like it. weird
[09:18] <msx> llutz_: you're too old to have a good laugh too, i'm trolling you dude ;)
[09:18] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: your work-station disconnects or the provider?
[09:18] <iceroot> erkon: and 12.04 is not the latest release
[09:18] <erkon> latest LTS
[09:19] <iceroot> erkon: so its incorrect to say only the latest release is working
[09:19] <erkon> latest type of release
[09:19] <erkon> ok
[09:19] <iceroot> erkon: then there is another problem
[09:19] <iceroot> erkon: e.g. the netinstaller for 10.04 is connecting to the 10.04 repos
[09:19] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: workstation. other laptops around the office have wifi functioning. so its not the AP
[09:19] <iceroot> erkon: and they are still up
[09:20] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: you have some sort of power-savings set?
[09:21] <msx> praveenmarkandu: don't you mis-set the wifi using powertop, don't you?
[09:21] <erkon> iceroot: is there a way to fix it
[09:21] <erkon> I'm sure that if you try with virtual machine you will see that it does not work with 10.04 LTS for example
[09:21] <iceroot> erkon: let me check
[09:22] <iceroot> !mini
[09:22] <iceroot> erkon: i will use this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[09:23] <erkon> yes I tried with that one
[09:24] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: not really.
[09:24] <praveenmarkandu> msx: huh?
[09:24] <praveenmarkandu> my power settings are fairlyy standard. in fact when my laptop is plugged into power (which it is now) it doesnt suspend or anything
[09:25] <erkon> iceroot: go with command line expert install,
[09:25] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: look at /var/log/syslog
[09:25] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: see if anything is obvious
[09:25] <erkon> and check if installer can download its components. This is where I fail.
[09:25] <rschu68_>  /ignore *  JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[09:26] <rschu68_>  /ignore *  JOINS PARTS QUIT NICKS
[09:26] <rschu68_>  /ignore *  JOIN PARTS QUIT NICKS
[09:26] <iceroot> erkon: hm, at the moment the installer is doing nothing after selecting the mirror
[09:26] <erkon> see
[09:26] <erkon> I told you
[09:26] <erkon> it is the same with me
[09:26] <erkon> check with 12.04 and it will work
[09:26] <blackshirt> hello, can i ask about lxc here ?
[09:26] <erkon> I do nto know why is that
[09:27] <iceroot> erkon: the repo is still up http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/
[09:27] <erkon> in debug logs I see that two packages are missing
[09:27] <iceroot> erkon: could you send me that log?
[09:27] <iceroot> !paste | erkon
[09:28] <erkon> libc6-udeb and libnewt0.52
[09:28] <iceroot> erkon: i will create a bug on launchpad
[09:28] <erkon> you can get it in the installer
[09:28] <erkon> go to save debug logs
[09:28] <iceroot> erkon: i started the normal installer
[09:28] <iceroot> erkon: but ok i will do later today
[09:28] <erkon> or open them in /var/log
[09:29] <iceroot> erkon: but as i said, its a bug and not "only the last lts is designed to work with netinstall"
[09:29] <erkon> in the virtual machine with command line network installer you could execute a shell or make a web server to check the logs in save logs option on the menu
[09:30] <iceroot> erkon: i know how to do it, thx
[09:30] <erkon> ok thank you iceroot
[09:30] <iceroot> erkon: i am just busy at the moment to restart the installation
[09:30] <kazagistar> how do I get the unix sort command to sort by ascii or unicode order, and not just ignore glyphs?
[09:30] <erkon> I hope they will fix the bug
[09:31] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Often when I open an e-mail fetched from my IMAP account in my mail client Thunderbird 16.0.2 the attachments (like JPEG files) are only shown partially. How can I prevent this?
[09:35] <CoJaBo> has anyone noticed this yet?
[09:35] <CoJaBo> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[09:35] <CoJaBo> >_>
[09:35] <blackshirt> hello, can i ask about lxc here ?
[09:35] <worm> oh, that is a link.
[09:35] <worm> CoJaBo: ubuntu is a link to the folder itself.
[09:36] <CoJaBo> I found it on thedailywtf lol
[09:37] <CoJaBo> sum1 dun goofed xD
[09:38] <CoJaBo> (apperently, its replicated to every mirror like that)
[09:38] <Guest50425> what is it?
[09:38] <CoJaBo> ?
[09:38] <almoxarife> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/ <-- finally gets to the distros
[09:39] <almoxarife> if there is a logical reason for that i dont see it
[09:40] <CoJaBo> almoxarife: Someone symlinked the directory to itself; I actually did something vaguely similar just this week >_>
[09:40] <CoJaBo> Never, ever do: grep -r 'something' /somedir > /somedir/somefile
[09:41] <CoJaBo> The resulting 1.6TB file took a nearly an hour to delete
[09:41] <marienz> teehee
[09:41] <CoJaBo> "OMFG how is this disk full already!?"
[09:43] <dcherniv> CoJaBo, haha
[09:44] <almoxarife> btw, its not just the NL mirror that will do that, i bet they all do
[09:44] <CoJaBo> Yeh, it was done on the master
[09:44] <CoJaBo> Ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
[09:47] <Guest35265> just installed ubuntu, it was fine at first, but when i updated the software, it developed some weird video display problem, with lines across the screen. lspci says my hardware is: [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6530D]
[09:47] <Guest35265> can anyone advise me how to undo or fix it?
[09:51] <fagel> I've installed gnome-shell pacakge. Trying to boot it I get no top menu or anything. However launching a terminal and typing "gnome-shell replace" gets me the menu's. Any ideas how to fix this?
[09:53] <Ray2> Ubuntu-10.04..on sda1...I have a file that is on sda1 and also on sdb5...when I mount sdb5 and try to open file from /opt/filename it open file from sda1
[09:54] <ptihiy> Hi! I configured VPS on Ubuntu for Drupal... Only one question remained... I need FTP. What do you recommend?
[09:56] <kerozene> I recommend avoid FTP
[09:57] <kerozene> and use sftp instead
[09:57] <Kartagis> kerozene: I'd be interested to know why
[09:57] <ptihiy> but it can load modules with ftp and also I want to load pictures and so on
[09:58] <kerozene> Kartagis: because only 3 things are certain in life: death, taxes and ftpd exploits
[09:58] <dcherniv> ptihiy, drupal supports webdav
[09:58] <ptihiy> I am trying to install proftpd, but every time I install in hangs dpkg
[09:58] <dcherniv> ptihiy, ftp should be last resort to use with web apps
[09:58] <ptihiy> *it
[09:59] <dcherniv> ptihiy, if you just need to upload/manage files to your server use sftp like kerozene said
[10:01] <ptihiy> dcherniv: dcherniv: thanks. what package I should use?
[10:01] <rschu68_> IGNORE -l
[10:01] <dcherniv> ptihiy, for sftp openssh-server
[10:02] <ptihiy> dcherniv: thanks!!
[10:04] <tziOm> What is the correct location for proc mount options in ubuntu? seems fstab is not read at system boot,  only on a remount for example.
[10:05] <solo_> hello
[10:06] <Ray2> Ubuntu-10.04..on sda1...I have a file that is on sda1 and also on sdb5...when I mount sdb5 and try to open file from /opt/filename it open file from sda1
[10:07] <dcherniv> Ray2, is the file on sdb5 a symlink?
[10:07] <dcherniv> Ray2, ls -l filename
[10:08] <blackshirt> , i have a problem, when i start linux container, this my output, http://paste.debian.net/211466/  ...... but not bring me get a console login, is this normal ??/ but i can connect throught lxc-console, this my output when connect http://paste.debian.net/211469/ .....
[10:09] <Ray2> dcherniv, no both files are seperate but also both under /opt...The file name is Moneydance one is a .deb the other is a rpm
[10:10] <ptihiy> please, help with one more question. proftpd always locks package manager when I try to install it. this time it did it also. when I am trying dpkg --configure -a, it tries to finish proftpd install and hangs again. what should I print so it didn't try to finish install and just remove it?
[10:13] <XRS1> how do i grant root privilege to user for SSH?
[10:15] <kerozene> XRS1: check out visudo
[10:15] <XRS1> aww i gotta vi stuff?
[10:15] <kerozene> depends
[10:15] <XRS1> using openssh
[10:16] <kerozene> doesn't really involve openssh
[10:18] <kerozene> XRS1: google 'export editor' if you don't like vi
[10:19] <nwillems> Hi there. I'm trying to secure a ubuntu server, and I'm wondering, with regards to security is it better to run SSH through xinetd or just standalone
[10:19] <Zumochi> Good day, I am unable to boot into a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10, all I get is a blinking cursor. I don't even see GRUB nor can I force into it holding SHIFT
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> XRS1  sudo -e [file] opens it with nano
[10:19] <dcherniv> nwillems, xinetd is pretty much all but deprecated
[10:19] <dcherniv> nwillems, so stand-alone
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > Zumochi try this
[10:20] <XRS1> Zumochi,  download a new iso and make it again
[10:20] <nwillems> dcherniv: Oh, maybe the wiki should be updated then.
[10:20] <nwillems> dcherniv: But thanks.
[10:20] <XRS1> i find linux live USB creator to work a little better than universal USB installer or unetbootin
[10:21] <Zumochi> Okay, I'll try that.
[10:21] <XRS1> its a win app
[10:21] <Zumochi> Do I have to reinstall again, though?
[10:21] <XRS1> oh no
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> Zumochi  did you read what ubottu says?
[10:21] <Zumochi> I did
[10:22] <XRS1> i thought it wasnt booting the pendrive.  try booting the pendrive again and re-install grub
[10:24] <buddy> hey yall
[10:25] <ptihiy> Please help with dpkg) If dpkg crashed while installing package and after I reboot and wrote dpkg --configure -a it tries to install it again. how can I cancel it?
[10:26] <wica_> Hi, I wanne build qemu 1.3 from source. But how do I find out the build specs and option from the 1.2 packages?
[10:27] <blackshirt> ptihiy: wait for end
[10:27] <buddy> Can anyonehelp me out with getting my intel graphics card runing?
[10:27] <Guest30432> How to add format option by defaylt in ubuntu when i insert a pendrive
[10:29] <ptihiy> blackshirt: it doesnt end. proftpd just locks install process... I even waited three hours... nothing happened
[10:29] <ptihiy> *i'm trying to install proftpd so to say
[10:30] <blackshirt> ptihiy: can you paste full your output ?
[10:31] <wica> nevermind, I have found it
[10:34] <buddy> does someone know why the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:glasen/intel-driver" won't work?
[10:35] <Guest30432> Hello Buddy Please give the Error !
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> buddy  maybe the ppa no longer exists
[10:35] <buddy> it says command not found
[10:35] <buddy> i got ubuntu 8.04
[10:36] <Guest30432> buddy:  Why 8.04?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> buddy  see, 8.04 is no longer maintained, it's called !eol
[10:36] <juniour> buddy upgrade 8.04 EOF
[10:37] <buddy> laptop ain't fast enough for a higher version i suppose, but it's the LTS version
[10:37] <Guest30432> buddy:  What About your Ram Processor?
[10:38] <buddy> ram is 512MB and processor is a intel celeron 1,5GHz
[10:38] <DJones> buddy: According to the package info, the ppa is only for 10.04 onwards
[10:38] <Guest30432> buddy:  I am not confirm but you can use ubuntu 10.10
[10:38] <Guest30432> buddy:  I am not confirm but you can use ubuntu 10.4
[10:39] <buddy> but why does it tell me the command doesn't even work?
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> buddy  in short: what you are using is too old
[10:39] <buddy> lol monkey
[10:39] <Guest30432> Monkey :P
[10:40] <juniour> buddy upgrade little
[10:40] <juniour> :)
[10:40] <Guest30432> Juniour :P
[10:40] <DJones> buddy: Have you tried a different desktop? I've got a machine with xfce which only has 512mb ram and that seems to run ok (I only use it occasionaly though)
[10:41] <DJones> !xfce | buddy
[10:41] <ewook> buddy: you are good for the maintained LTS'es with 512mb ram and 1,5Ghz celeron.
[10:41] <ewook> buddy: and yes - xfce is the thing you wanna look at ;).
[10:41] <ewook> DJones: nice timing ;)
[10:41] <root_____> hai, whats the newest kernel available ? 3.6 ?
[10:42] <buddy> damn guys, thank you so much
[10:42] <Guest30432> root_____: Check on Kernel Web
[10:42] <worm> root_____: How about have a look at http://www.kernel.org
[10:42] <buddy> i'm gonna upgrade to 10.10 and then get the Xfce desktop
[10:42] <buddy> let's see how it works ^
[10:42] <buddy> xD
[10:42] <ewook> buddy: I'd say 10.04, or 12.04.
[10:42] <root_____> i mean, on ubuntu, i wanna try ubuntu ( /me's coming from debian)
[10:42] <ewook> !10.10
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> buddy  not 10.10, it's too old, too
[10:43] <ewook> buddy: 10.10 is EOL'ed as well.
[10:43] <ewook> !10.04 | Buddy
[10:44] <ewook> root_____: in repo or generic?
[10:45] <buddy> i see, ust checked, it says version 10.04.3 is available to upgrade
[10:45] <nwillems> I've been poking around for security tips for a while. And I remeber hitting a page describing several tuning parameters for networking, can anyone point me to a page like the one? Or maybe just a good starting point for security hardening?
[10:45] <buddy> which is also a LTS version
[10:46] <ewook> buddy: correct.
[10:46] <buddy> well then, thank ya guys :)
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> buddy  yes, until april, that's 5 months from now, after that you'll have to upgrade again
[10:47] <ewook> nwillems: generic, or for a specific release?
[10:47] <{xmb}> is there a lightier download than +700mb cds ?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> {xmb}  there's !mini
[10:48] <{xmb}> !mini
[10:48] <{xmb}> merci =)
[10:48] <arnsa> Hello, today I tried to start my ubuntu, but it wouldn't start. After selecting Ubuntu in GRUB it boots and then I can only see black screen with a mouse cursor which I can't move. Any ideas how to fix it?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > arnsa try this
[10:49] <Guest30432> arnsa: I think you have not enough space left in / . Just check it
[10:49] <juniour> harnsa may be due to additional drivers
[10:49] <arnsa> Guest30432 yes I do..
[10:50] <Guest30432> arnsa: Have space ?
[10:50] <arnsa> MonkeyDust I didn't really understand what you want to say
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | arnsa try these instructions
[10:52] <juniour> arnsa i told you i thin k its due to additional drivers ie graphic
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> arnsa  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 <-- open this link
[10:52] <arnsa> MonkeyDust dude stop spamming me the same message
[10:52] <arnsa> juniour but you didn't say how to fix it
[10:52] <minas> My CPU seems to be running at 100%. When I run the top command, there's a process named "evolution-calen" that's at 100%. I have no open program like that. What is that process?
[10:52] <Guest30432> minas: Duid you checked ppid?
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> arnsa  you asked me to repeat, so i did, ubottu explains how to solve the black screen issue
[10:53] <minas> GUest30432: It's 2121. And the "user" is lightdm
[10:53] <OerHeks> arnsa, monkeydust is right, try the nomodeset option as described in that link
[10:53] <juniour> arsna boot i safe mode
[10:54] <Guest30432> minas: tried killing process?
[10:54] <arnsa> OerHeks but why it stoped working exactly today? Why everything was fine the days before?
[10:54] <juniour> arsna any trt the instruction given by monkeydust
[10:55] <minas> Guest30432: i just did. It's better now. By the way the path of it was "/usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory"
[10:55] <arnsa> I don't even know where can I set that acpi_osi=...
[10:55] <minas> any idea what that is?
[10:57] <arnsa> OerHeks but why it stoped working exactly today? Why everything was fine the days before?
[10:58] <nwillems> ewook: I'm thinking something generic would go into more detail, but I'm running 12.10 and could use a specific guide and then expand on that.
[10:58] <OerHeks> arnsa, what did you do before this occured? did you update? or did you install additinal drivers?
[10:58] <OerHeks> c/additional
[10:59] <Heather_> could somebody explain the difference between parity and mirroring drives when creating raid?
[11:00] <shantorn> i have xubuntu 12.10 installed but the monitor isnt identified correctly and i need to manualy put its specs in, in previous versions i had to edit the xorg.conf file but can not find it in 12.10, could someone point me in hte right direction please?
[11:00] <inner_peace> hello is there is some one deal with Zimbra mail server ??
[11:01] <OerHeks> Heather_, mirror is just a exact copy on a 2nd drive, parity is an index where parts of the blocks of data are stored on 3 drives ore more
[11:03] <epic_> yes inner-peace
[11:04] <shantorn> xorg manual monitor specs
[11:07] <Heather_> OerHeks so parity is good for increasing perfomance? since three or more discs work to store the information one disc would otherwise do itself?
[11:08] <OerHeks> Heather, parity is an index,  if one drive fails, parity can recreate the drive
[11:08] <Heather_> oh okay
[11:08] <OerHeks> so that would be raid 5, if i recall correct.
[11:09] <Heather_> yes but raid10 is also nice since it uses mirroring and striping. Discs dont cost that much nowdays
[11:15] <phasma> greetings, all. I come here hoping that somebody has experience getting the sis671/771 working properly
[11:17] <Zumochi> Hello again, I tried to re-install Ubuntu 11.10 with the "nomodeset" parameter, however I am still having the same problem.
[11:18] <inner_peace> epic , do you setup  and installation it
[11:20] <Abhijit> hi
[11:20] <Abhijit> is there any gui way to setup lvm in ubuntu installation disk?
[11:21] <ikonia> Abhijit: don't know about the current 12.04/12.10 distro, but the alternative CD on the older distros used to support it fine
[11:21] <Abhijit> ikonia, ok
[11:21] <inner_peace> epic , do you there ??
[11:22] <Abhijit> are you*
[11:23] <Abhijit> ikonia, i have existing encrypted lvm created by opensuse. can i just same to install ubuntu?
[11:23] <Abhijit> use*
[11:23] <ikonia> I believe so yes
[11:23] <Abhijit> ok.
[11:23] <ikonia> I don't know if that is supported in the current desktop installer, I'd expect so now
[11:24] <Abhijit> will try it
[11:24] <iceroot> Abhijit: only the alternate which is using a ncurse based gui
[11:24] <iceroot> imo still on 12.10 its only on the alternate
[11:24] <Abhijit> iceroot, whats the name of ncurse gui software?
[11:25] <iceroot> Abhijit: its the normal debian installer which is based on ncurse
[11:25] <Abhijit> ok
[11:25] <iceroot> !alternate | Abhijit
[11:25] <iceroot> hö?
[11:31] <ms_> I just installed program "rar" and it seems that: "unrar x file.rar " isn't working. and shows:"/usr/local/bin/rar: 1: /usr/local/bin/rar: Syntax error: "&" unexpected"
[11:31] <fattabiouni> hai
[11:31] <webfox> Hello folks!
[11:32] <fattabiouni> hai guys
[11:32] <webfox> How do I change my keyboard config please?
[11:32] <vmg3> unrar
[11:33] <masoudd> webfox: you mean Graphically or in console?
[11:33] <webfox> masoudd, console, for Server
[11:34] <masoudd> webfox: what distro is it? just curious
[11:34] <webfox> masoudd, it is a Ubuntu Precise Server
[11:34] <sanav> !ot
[11:35] <masoudd> webfox: umm loadkeys?
[11:35] <masoudd> sanav: oops, I thought I was in #linux
[11:35] <sanav> masoudd: its ok
[11:36] <webfox> masoudd, how do I do it?
[11:36] <masoudd> webfox: like loadkeys uk
[11:37] <Bustacap> What is a good hax0r channel?
[11:38] <iceroot> Bustacap: #school
[11:38] <Bustacap> ..
[11:38] <Bustacap> What is an RPC request o.O
[11:38] <kamidi> Bustacap: Remote Procedure Call. Why?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> what's hax0r?
[11:39] <webfox> masoudd, when I use loadkeys command it whites: unknow charset unicode - igoring charset request
[11:39] <Bustacap> kamidi: I did a nessus scan, and it came back with a lot of things saying that people can hax me with an RPC request :/
[11:40] <masoudd> webfox: what exactly do you want to do? what do you type that gives that error?
[11:40] <milo64> how can i get "suggested packages" of a package that i have already installed?
[11:40] <milo64> apt-get
[11:41] <iceroot> milo64: sudo apt-get install --install-suggests packagename
[11:41] <kamidi> Bustacap: I'm not expert, sorry :( I guess RPC can be used to hack your machine but it's not like open door or anything
[11:41] <milo64> iceroot: i mean, 'show'.
[11:41] <Bustacap> kamidi: I just don't know what rpc is or how to use it to hax me :/
[11:41] <iceroot> milo64: apt-cache show packagename
[11:42] <milo64> ok
[11:42] <iceroot> milo64: and there "Suggests"
[11:42] <iceroot> milo64: like  Suggests: latex-xft-fonts, libthai0, firefox-gnome-support | firefox-kde-support
[11:42] <masoudd> Bustacap: read the wikipedia entry
[11:42] <webfox> masoudd, when I press certain keys the OS doesn' t recognize, and I would like to fix it. When I type loadkeys it shows that message and stops at next line.
[11:42] <milo64> okay iceroot, thax
[11:42] <milo64> s/thax/thanks
[11:43] <kamidi> Bustacap: Me neither, but I think it's basic component on Windows machines; maybe Linux too?
[11:43] <vmg3> webfox: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[11:43] <Bustacap> kamidi: idk? I just figured there's so many people on here so I'd ask here :P
[11:43] <masoudd> webfox: I think you have a non standard keyboard that sends codes beyond ASCII, maybe unicode? I'm not sure tough.
[11:45] <webfox> What type of character set I should use on a Mac keyboard?
[11:46] <Mechdave> webfox, what region are you in?
[11:46] <webfox> America, english
[11:46] <Kartagis> in a nautilus script, how do I copy the returned string to clipboard?
[11:47] <Mechdave> webfox, have a look here --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard
[11:51] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Often when I open an e-mail fetched from my IMAP account in my mail client Thunderbird 16.0.2 the attachments (like JPEG files) are only shown partially. How can I prevent this?
[11:53] <kamidi> Bustacap: Maybe someone knows more about that than us ;-)
[11:54] <iceroot> vlt: current stable version is 17.0 please update your software first
[11:54] <iceroot> vlt: also have a look at #irc-mozilla.org  #thunderbird
[11:54] <Mechdave> Bustacap, What was your question again?
[11:55] <Kartagis> iceroot: s/\#irc/irc/
[11:55] <iceroot> Kartagis: thx
[11:55] <vlt> iceroot: Thank you.
[11:55] <iceroot> vlt: irc.mozilla.org  #thunderbird
[11:57] <webfox> Mechdave, I am running a MacBook Pro and I think I may have the wrong keyboard layout...
[11:58] <Mechdave> webfox, Doesn't that page tell you how to get the correct keymap. I would have thought the normal US map would do most of the job and then the mods for the aple only keys
[11:59] <ms_> eh oh! why I installed rar and it told me: "bash: /usr/local/bin/unrar: cannot execute binary file" when I do "unrar e file.rar" grrrr
[12:00] <Mechdave> ms_, where did you install rar from?
[12:00] <iceroot> ms_: michael@bestbuntu:~$ which unrar
[12:00] <iceroot> /usr/bin/unrar
[12:00] <iceroot> ms_: please use the unrar from ubuntu and not your installed version, we dont support that version
[12:00] <iceroot> ms_: sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:00] <ms_> Mechdave, iceroot, sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[12:02] <Mechdave> ms_, may be better to purge the unrar you have and install the one from the Ubuntu repository. sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:02] <iceroot> ms_: unrar-free is not installing there
[12:02] <iceroot> ms_: /usr/bin/unrar-free
[12:02] <iceroot> ms_: see also "dpkg -L unrar-free"
[12:03] <iceroot> ms_: so please dont install software by hand, always use the repo-software
[12:09] <alumno> ola
[12:09] <Sniper> quiero a alguien
[12:09] <Sniper> :(
[12:09] <Sniper> soy gay!
[12:10] <Sniper> :D
[12:10] <FloodBot1> Sniper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <Sniper> xD
[12:10] <alumno> sniper pallasoçvwijvhkuejgahsdrygvuyejhwskd<
[12:10] <alumno> ola pantumacaa
[12:11] <alumno_> la
[12:11] <alumno_> jopa
[12:11] <alumno1> a
[12:12] <kishimi8I> pls where can i downloAD the alternate upgrade cd for 12.10
[12:12] <Sniper080> ola :D
[12:12] <Sniper080> soy gay! :D
[12:12] <yeats> kishimi8I: apparently the alternate installer is no more
[12:13] <Gryllida> What program sets builtin speakers to be automatically muted when I plug the headphones in?
[12:13] <yeats> !alternate | kishimi8I
[12:13] <Sniper080> :P
[12:13] <dagerik> the program pastebinit doesnt work with this input: http://dagerik.fn.is/files/lal.txt Can anyone else confirm?
[12:13] <pantumaka> pelonvho
[12:13] <Sniper080> ola mariogay
[12:13] <kishimi8I> sorry as a noob .. how do i use the live cd to upgrade
[12:13] <pantumaka> kjvngjgjifgmn
[12:14] <yeats> !upgrade | kishimi8I
[12:14] <Sniper080> .-.
[12:14] <Sniper080> pdlojmiqbg1vtr
[12:14] <MAriogay> uhfdcsdnfvu98sdfh
[12:14] <Sniper080> ola
[12:14] <OerHeks> !ops | Sniper080
[12:14] <pantumaka> fgj bjncvb vb
[12:14] <pantumaka> vb
[12:14] <pantumaka> cv
[12:14] <pantumaka> b
[12:14] <pantumaka> cv
[12:14] <pantumaka> bcv
[12:14] <FloodBot1> pantumaka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:14] <Sniper080> puta!
[12:14] <Mechdave> kishimi8I, All you do is put the cd in the drive and select the upgrade option
[12:14] <Sniper080> you don't know scrib?
[12:14] <Sniper080> :D
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> is it vacation in some portugese speaking country? the kids look bored
[12:14] <kroson> Hello, which one is the best tool to customize unity in ubuntu 12.10? Myunity, unsettings, ubuntu tweak or other? Thanks
[12:14] <Sniper080> i'm boing
[12:15] <kishimi8I> thanks would do just that
[12:15] <kroson> Hello, which one is the best tool to customize unity in ubuntu 12.10? Myunity, unsettings, ubuntu tweak or other? Thank you
[12:15] <Sniper080> Bottle Box
[12:15] <Sniper080> ;)
[12:15] <Sniper080> itś funny
[12:15] <Sniper080> :D
[12:15] <kishimi8I> yeats, there used to be alternate upgrade isos for people like me with crappy internet connections
[12:16] <pantumaka> JIFJ
[12:16] <Sniper080> pantumaka..........you arre boriun
[12:16] <Sniper080> osea puta! :D
[12:16] <Sniper080> xD
[12:17] <D_Russ> can anyone tell me why my ubuntu takes forever to recognize my usb mouse and keyboard after a reboot?
[12:17] <D_Russ> takes like 30 seconds
[12:17] <k1l> D_Russ: what means "forever"?
[12:17] <webfox> server
[12:18] <D_Russ> k1l: they are unresponsive for atleast 30 seconds to a minute
[12:18] <k1l> D_Russ: did take a look into the logs, like dmesg and syslog?
[12:18] <yeats> kishimi8I: correct - it has been discontinued
[12:18] <D_Russ> k1l: sorry log checking is beyond my ubuntu experise
[12:18] <vitimiti> o/
[12:18] <kishimi8I> im back .. guys pls which is thelive cd in the http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ page
[12:18] <dagerik> the program pastebinit doesnt work with this input: http://dagerik.fn.is/files/lal.txt Can anyone else confirm?
[12:19] <k1l> kroson: there is no myunity for 12,10 afaik. go with unsettings
[12:19] <devswap> hi all - whats a good encryption program to encrypt a hard disk in ubuntu - I have used truecrypt before - is this the best?
[12:19] <linuxpunk> its good stuff
[12:19] <k1l> kishimi8I: the desktop image
[12:20] <devswap> linuxpunk: was that for me?
[12:20] <D_Russ> anyone?
[12:20] <kishimi8I> kk .you guys are the best.. will do that .. i hope this one is as good as 10.04
[12:21] <Gryllida> D_Russ: "tail /var/log/dmesg" and "tail /var/log/syslog" - pastebin those two for k1l, please.
[12:22] <D_Russ> thank
[12:22] <D_Russ> s
[12:22] <k1l> D_Russ: in /var/log/ are the logs. maybe there is a hint why its getting delayed.
[12:22] <linuxpunk> yeah have not seen anything better yet
[12:22] <kroson> k1l: Is there much difference between unsettings and ubuntu-tweak?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> kroson  best way to find out, is by trying both
[12:23] <devswap> linuxpunk: may I pm you?
[12:23] <k1l> kroson: unsettings is untiy related. tweak is more gnome3 related iirc
[12:23] <kishimi8I> linuxpin .. true
[12:24] <kroson> MonkeyDust: gr8, have you done that yourself?
[12:24] <D_Russ> k1l: http://pastebin.com/6aAvf4kz
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> kroson  i don't like/use unity, so no
[12:24] <kroson> MonkeyDust: what do you use btw?
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> kroson  i use ubuntu classic, looks like gnome2
[12:25] <kroson> MonkeyDust: weren't they going to drop gnome fallback?
[12:25] <kroson> the gnome team
[12:25] <D_Russ> k1l: http://pastebin.com/qf1t6xq5
[12:26] <Buntu> Anyone here familiar with GEDIT?
[12:26] <k1l> kroson: they do
[12:26] <AppleJuice> gEdit?
[12:26] <Buntu> Yes
[12:26] <AppleJuice> Can you tell me what you need, Buntu
[12:27] <Buntu> Yes.  I get that different colors mean diferent things for my http/php page  I don't find a color chart anywhere identifying colors.  I see brown and think oh sh*#!
[12:28] <kroson> k1l: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIzMzY
[12:28] <k1l> D_Russ: you are running ubuntu in a vbox?
[12:28] <D_Russ> no
[12:28] <AppleJuice> buntu, I dont think you can see what a color means.
[12:28] <D_Russ> dual boot
[12:29] <Buntu> lol ok well sh*#.  :-)  thanks
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Buntu  the colors are meant to visually 'group' tags, it does not explain the tags
[12:30] <D_Russ> k1l: no i am dual booting
[12:31] <k1l> D_Russ: the small tails dont show anything related.
[12:31] <Buntu> Ah.  My <script = tag was one color and <? tag was another color even though they were both for the same thing so I thought maybe one was not working.  <? came up brown.  Thanks guys.
[12:31] <D_Russ> ok
[12:35] <k1l> kroson: thx, but this sounds more like they will integrate plugins which mal gnome3 look like gnome2
[12:35] <Relaed> hello
[12:35] <Relaed> Anyone know why anytime I exit the ssh session, access to my website got forbidden ?
[12:36] <abdelkayoum> hi
[12:36] <shinobi_> Is there a way to get xchat is the gnome classic systray?
[12:37] <kroson> k1l: better than nothing i should say :). Do you use unity?
[12:37] <k1l> kroson: yep, im using unity since 11.10 so this doesnt dodge me :)
[12:39] <kroson> k1l: do you use a laptop?
[12:39] <Igor_Kh> Relaed do you use ssh as a tunnel ?
[12:39] <fagel123123> Hi, Running "sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing" gives me  "mtxrun --generate failed." How to fix this?
[12:39] <k1l> kroson: 15,4" laptop with a 23" external in twinview
[12:40] <kroson> k1l: is there a way to disable touchpad while writing in ubuntu?
[12:40] <k1l> kroson: yes, in the systemsettings in th mouse and touchpad tab
[12:40] <kroson> k1l: that option doesn't appear in my pc :)
[12:41] <kroson> ive searched there
[12:41] <k1l> 12.10 here
[12:41] <kroson> k1l: same here
[12:42] <k1l> you need to choose the touchpad tab in the settings for mouse and touchpad. and then its the first checkbox
[12:42] <ms_> eh oh, I can't extract from .rar files?
[12:42] <kroson> k1l: yes it was supposed, but that tab isn't appearing to me, which i find rather weird. I think the system isn't detecting my touchpad
[12:43] <k1l> kroson: well, that could be the issue
[12:44] <roger21> hi there, i can't update my ubuntu it get stuck to "(Reading database ... 50%" and then "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: reading files list for package 'evince': Input/output error" what can i do ?
[12:44] <kroson> k1l: did you need to install any additional package? like gsynaptics
[12:44] <kroson> or something. Or just using default?
[12:44] <Walex2> roger21: that probably means that you have a defect on your hard disk.
[12:45] <k1l> kroson: no, my dell machine worked ootb
[12:45] <Walex2> roger21: check the 'dmesg | less' to see if some disk errors have been reported
[12:45] <k1l> kroson: try lsusb and lspci to see if its recognized
[12:46] <Walex2> w/n
[12:46] <kroson> k1l: no, but it was found by doing "xinput --list"
[12:47] <inner_peace> are any one deal in deep with zimbra mail server ?????
[12:47] <tmba> hi, I find moving windows in Ubuntu 12.10 is more laggy after I upgraded from 12.04, is there anything I can do to make them smooth again?
[12:48] <tarzeau_> tmba: using unity?
[12:48] <tmba> tarzeau_: yes
[12:48] <tarzeau_> more than one screen?
[12:48] <roger21> Walex2, i don't know, can i do a force check/repare defect/blabla ?
[12:48] <tmba> tarzeau_: yes also, 2 screens.
[12:49] <roger21> or something?
[12:49] <tmba> tarzeau_: latest nvidia
[12:49] <tarzeau_> tmba: that's normal i don't have a fix, quit using unity
[12:49] <tarzeau_> mate, window maker, amiwm all work fine here. just not unity
[12:49] <tmba> tarzeau_: normal that its more laggy in 12.10 compared to 12.04?
[12:49] <Walex2> roger21: often you can, but the big question is whether there is indeed a defect. It is likely, but first check the log.
[12:49] <tarzeau_> tmba: yes, and it's even broken in 12.04
[12:49] <blackshirt> !tproxy
[12:49] <blackshirt> !find tproxy
[12:50] <tmba> tarzeau_: yeah I fixed the vblank issue and set the refresh to max in compizconfig in 12.04, and it was beaut
[12:50] <roger21> Walex2, i get quite some "ata1.00: error: { UNC }" could be
[12:50] <tmba> tarzeau_: it seemed to revert back once I upgraded though, and doing the same in compizconfig doesn't help this time
[12:51] <roger21> well i'm not sure what my ata1 is tho, could be the cd (which has nothing in)
[12:52] <phasma> greetings, all. I come here hoping that somebody has experience getting the sis671/771 working properly
[12:52] <dr_willis> S3/SiS stuff is well.. about the worse hardware you can get when it comes to the company supporting linux. ;(
[12:53] <phasma> dr_willis: heh, yeah. It really is :(
[12:53] <dr_willis> phasma:  the askubuntu.com site and the forums - maygive some tips.
[12:53] <dr_willis> the odds of some one in here at any given time having SIS is low. ;) Lucky for us
[12:53] <phasma> dr_willis: been there, tried that. Tried -numerous "solutions" - None have worked so far
[12:54] <phasma> funny thing is that it -is- possible. Mandriva have an sisimedia driver that mostly works
[12:54] <roger21> so er what should i do?
[12:57] <dr_willis> phasma:  potential issue ive seen is that some times  some fix's - if they dont work.. break the other fixs you may try...
[12:58] <phasma> dr_willis: yeah, ditto. It's high time sis released at least -something- - hell, they don't even have an up to date driver for windows, heh
[12:58] <dr_willis> im honestly suprised SiS Even  is still in business
[13:01] <dr_willis> Havent heard much about Matrox lately either.
[13:05] <Relaed> I sorted it out.
[13:05] <dr_willis> I will have to report that the Netflix for Linux PPA package seems to be working very well for me. It just keeps wanting to open on the wrong monitor. ;)
[13:05] <phasma> i guess it's my own fault for buying a budget laptop, but seriously, it's a 256MB chip, you'd think they'd at least make it work, if only with basic functionality
[13:06] <roger21> let start over, i can't update my ubuntu it get stuck to "(Reading database ... 50%" and then "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: reading files list for package 'evince': Input/output error" what can i do ?
[13:06] <dr_willis> phasma:  been seeing some neat reaviews of the latest Chromebooks hacked to run Ubuntu. ;) if i dident allready have 2 netbooks and a laptop.. id consider one. ;P
[13:06] <phasma> dr_willis: haha, yeah. i was reading about that just a few days ago, too
[13:06] <dr_willis> roger21:  io error imples the filesystem or hardware issues with  the HD. i would start by fscking  the filesystems form a live cd.
[13:07] <phasma> dr_willis: this might interest you: http://www.saurik.com/id/10
[13:09] <roger21> dr_willis, what command do you sudgest ?
[13:09] <dr_willis> !fsck
[13:10] <dr_willis> i always fsck stuff from a live cd.. ;)  just makes things easier
[13:11] <Kartagis> does nautilus accept only bash scripts?
[13:11] <roger21> dr_willis, wher do i see the result of this check?
[13:11] <dr_willis> it will print messages in the termianl
[13:11] <roger21> well i mean with the forcefsck
[13:12] <auronandace> Kartagis: accept in what sense? nautilus is a file manager
[13:12] <dr_willis> http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-checkrepair-fsck-filesystem.html
[13:12] <roger21> (since i have plymooth and stuff blabla)
[13:12] <Kartagis> auronandace: as in "show in context menu"
[13:12] <dr_willis> i fsck from a LIVE CD when i need to.
[13:13] <roger21> dr_willis, ok i just did a forcefsck for now, do you now where i can check the result?
[13:13] <dr_willis> like the factoid says.. it will force a fsck  at the next reboot.. it will print some messages
[13:14] <dr_willis> or from a live cd terminal -   sudo fsck /dev/sdaX or whatever fs i want to check ;)
[13:16] <roger21> well ok, all i saw was the bootsplash thingy
[13:16] <CrAzYWolF> hi all, hey why resolv.conf everytime i reboot i need to add the nsameserver command?
[13:16] <CrAzYWolF> happy thanksgiving btw
[13:17] <auronandace> !resolvconf | CrAzYWolF
[13:17] <Kecskepasztor> hello guys
[13:19] <exiff> Hello hello.
[13:19] <roger21> !apt
[13:19] <roger21> !aptitude
[13:19] <CrAzYWolF> thanks 09:17 < ubottu> CrAzYWolF: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage
[13:19] <CrAzYWolF> thanks ubottu let me read up
[13:20] <exiff> I'm having issues with mounting encrypted  ext4 volumes.
[13:20] <dr_willis> roger21:  fscking can be very quick if you are lucky. :) but if the issue keeps happening after you fsck. that would point to some hardware issues with the HD.
[13:21] <exiff> Specifically when i remove then reattaching the device
[13:21] <roger21> dr_willis, i don't seem to have any disk error
[13:21] <dr_willis> the dmesg command should be mentioning errors with the Hard disks also.
[13:22] <exiff> "Error unlocking device"
[13:22] <Kecskepasztor> !debian
[13:23] <Kecskepasztor> !ubuntu
[13:24] <roger21> dr_willis, ok dmesg add somme error after the update try
[13:25] <b4ch> where can I post ubuntu bugs?
[13:25] <DJones> !bug | b4ch
[13:25] <Shinobi_> how do I switch the buttons to the right side?
[13:26] <DJones> !controls | Shinobi_
[13:26] <inner_peace> is zimbra mail server open source or it is owned by vmware
[13:26] <roger21> is there a way to repare the disk or something?
[13:26] <Shinobi_> How do I get xchat in the gnome systray (gnome classic)
[13:27] <dr_willis> theres some extra package in the repos i belive you need Shinobi_
[13:27] <dr_willis> and you may need to whitelist it for the systray to allow it.
[13:28] <dr_willis> ttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-re-enable-notification-area.html
[13:28] <dr_willis> Not sure how up to date that guide is.
[13:29] <Rexter> In Gnome 3 I'd like to customize my Firefox icon, how can it be changed?
[13:29] <dr_willis> Rexter:  one way. make a custome .desktop file that defines your own icon.
[13:30] <Rexter> dr_willis, where would I put that?
[13:30] <Shinobi_> dr_willis: I added xchat-indicator, but it doesn't appear to do anything. Do you know the name of another package? I've googled but it always seems to come up with the aformentioned package.
[13:30] <whathemeow> ok
[13:31] <dr_willis> same location as where firefox.desktop is at for system wide ussage.
[13:31] <Shinobi_> dr_willis: oh, how do i whitelist it?
[13:31] <whathemeow> what app is good for logging data usage  ?
[13:31] <whathemeow> internet data usage
[13:31] <dr_willis> see the url i pasted above Shinobi_ . or search for 'whitelist ubuntu YOURVERSION' - it could be differnt for differnt releases
[13:32] <dr_willis> They did the whitelist/blacklist stuff to try to tone down the whole cluttered systray disaster that was happening. ;)
[13:32] <Shinobi_> dr_willis: thanks. Sorry, forgot to shut off join/part messages and didn't see your other posts.
[13:32] <nwillems> exit
[13:32] <nwillems> Woops
[13:32] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/xchat-indicator   just saw this on google also. ;)
[13:32] <dr_willis> !info xchat-indicator
[13:33] <dr_willis> its a plugin it seems. you may need to enable it in xchat settings
[13:33] <ms_> hi folks, an help please. I want to change the users for a program but I don't know where is that program installed,
[13:34] <dr_willis> ms_:   what do you mean by 'change theusers for a program' ?
[13:34] <Rexter> ms_ are you talking about permissions?
[13:34] <dr_willis> !info xchat-otr
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> ms_  try which [program]
[13:35] <ms_> dr_willis, Rexter, MonkeyDust  I already got it, just "whereis myPrg" thanks for your care:)
[13:36]  * dr_willis closes the ticket
[13:36] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:38] <vlt> iceroot: I updated thunderbird to the current version 17.0 but the problem with the cropped (jpeg) attachments still exists (at least for e-mails I already read with the previous version). What can I do now?
[13:40] <vlt> iceroot: The problem also exists when forwarding complete e-mails (even as .eml attachment, not inline).
[13:41] <vlt> iceroot: I ran diff on the two e-mail files in the maildir on the IMAP server. The structure of the forwarded e-mail (including boundary markers) is kept but the attachments are cropped or mangled.
[13:44] <dr_willis> Aha - found a nice menu editor program for 12.10 in a PPA that lets you easially change program icons.
[13:44] <dr_willis> http://www.iloveubuntu.net/versatile-menu-editor-menulibre-1210-adds-support-ubuntu-1210-official-ppa-available
[13:49] <jente> hi, what can I expect from an intel chipset Q35 with onboard graphics (should be GMA 3100) running (l)ubuntu? i am experience some choppy playback when watching videos in fullscreen (1920x1200) and don't know if it is due to the onboard graphics or driver issues
[13:49] <feodor> Hi, what is supposed to show up under "Downloads" in unity's dash home search lens?
[13:49] <feodor> I currently see any file that I create (or open) via nautilus show up there
[13:49] <Heather_> I'm logged in as root user and I try to load a page in php but I get Forbidden You dont have perm... message. Do I have to set permission for root aswell?
[13:50] <feodor> so basically it gives me the same as in "Recent files"... how do I fix this or remove "Downloads" ?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:50] <Heather_> I was not logged in as root nvm
[13:52] <slarty> Since upgrading skype to <IP_ADDRESS> it is not starting -
[13:52] <slarty>  symbol lookup error: skype: undefined symbol: _ZN17QSslConfiguration12setSslOptionEN4QSsl9SslOptionEb
[13:52] <slarty> Any solutions please?
[14:00] <dr_willis> id say check the forums and askubuntu.com slarty  - its hard for us to support stuff like skype. but someone may have discovered a work around
[14:00] <dr_willis> I use google voice these days. ;)
[14:01] <dr_willis> Heather_:  if you set up groups properly you wont need to be editing  your web server files as root.
[14:03] <iceroot> vlt: i would suggest to use the thunderbird channel
[14:03] <zykes-> we updated /win 347
[14:03] <iceroot> vlt: guess there you will get better support then here because this is "just" general ubuntu support
[14:04] <Marenz> greetings
[14:05] <Marenz> I am trying to build an ubuntu package for my own project. how can I get rid of the "ubuntuX" part in the version when doing dch -i ?
[14:05] <iceroot> Marenz: debian/changelog  that entry there will be the package-version with ubuntu and so on
[14:05] <iceroot> Marenz: that string there is used to create the packagename/version
[14:06] <Marenz> iceroot, well, yes I know, but dch always appends "ubuntuX"  when I do dch -i. can I stop it from doing that?
[14:06] <Marenz> or change the string from "ubuntu" to "build" or so?
[14:06] <Marenz> i tried dch -i --distributor=build
[14:07] <slarty> @dr_willis      thanks for suggestion, I'll look there
[14:07] <jpds> Marenz: -lbuild
[14:08] <Marenz> jpds, ah, I see.. I assume -l instead of -i is to be used
[14:08] <bluegrass> how do i open a .jar
[14:08] <jpds> bluegrass: Unscrew the lid.
[14:08] <iceroot> bluegrass: i guess you want to start it instead of opening it
[14:08] <iceroot> bluegrass: java -jar file.jar
[14:09] <bluegrass> iceroot hee ty but how do i get the javur
[14:09] <bluegrass> to get the .jar
[14:10] <iceroot> bluegrass: ?
[14:10] <bluegrass> howto install java (javur)
[14:11] <nikolas> yhjkl;
[14:11] <iceroot> bluegrass: i dont know what javur ist but to install java "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre"
[14:11] <iceroot> bluegrass: and if you want to develop java-applications use jdk instead of jre
[14:12] <nikolas> xt&
[14:12] <nikolas> чё?
[14:12] <bluegrass> Y THANK U ^^
[14:13] <bux> hi
[14:13] <bux> i would like the outcome of echo $f  | cut -d. -f1 within a variable
[14:13] <bux> http://pastebin.com/9HpiuLJq
[14:14] <bux> and I dunno how to do o
[14:23] <tritonx> my ubuntu install is little messed up , nothing serious but a few annoying bugs. Can I just reinstall over it (without losing my data and prefs )
[14:24] <XRS1> you need to backup your data
[14:24] <AppleJuice> tritonx, You can do that if you have your /home directory on another partition. Have you?
[14:24] <Rexter> Does anyone know if there is a way to see the location of applications that are pined to Docky?
[14:24] <tritonx> no but I could copy it
[14:24] <XRS1> ^ unless /home is elsewhere
[14:25] <tritonx> so everything should be in my /home folder
[14:25] <sioli> what is version ubuntu is best? 12.04 or 12.10?
[14:25] <XRS1> 12.04 is LTS
[14:25] <XRS1> 12.10 is not
[14:25] <sioli> 12.04, this is a best? why?
[14:26] <tritonx> just different
[14:26] <tritonx> none is better
[14:26] <Ubuntuuser> Hi! Can i log what my users do on my ubuntu server?  Like what files they open and edit?
[14:26] <sioli> absolutely,.. all the better..
[14:26] <AppleJuice> tritonx, No, as you dont have /home mounted on a seperate partition.
[14:26] <CrAzYWolF> quick question in the rc.local do i need to add my line below exit 0 or on top of it?
[14:26] <Ubuntuuser> And / Or can i disable their option to go above /home folder?
[14:27] <sioli> the version if kernel  3.2 is stable,do 3,5, economic my laptop.
[14:27] <XRS1> 12.04 = older so you gotta install more updates after installing BUT it will be supported for 2 years.   12.10 is more up to date but not officially supported as long
[14:27] <ccsteale> CrAzYWolF, you will need to place it before the exit 0
[14:27] <tritonx> you can update easily from 12.04 to upward release
[14:27] <CrAzYWolF> ahh thank you ccsteale
[14:28] <tritonx> if you want
[14:28] <CrAzYWolF> let's see if it works now
[14:28] <bluegrass> how do i install the driver for my videocard
[14:28] <Ubuntuuser> Anyone?
[14:29] <ccsteale> bluegrass, what video card are you using? the drivers may be in the ubuntu repo's else you can donwload the binary/soruce from the hardware vendors website
[14:29] <sioli> yeah, is this moment i are use ubuntu 12.04, my laptop,is very faster core i5 6gb ram, is kernel 3,5 its much better.
[14:29] <XRS1> additional drivers or use Ubuntu Software Center for the .deb u get from their website
[14:29] <bluegrass> ccsteale may i perhaps find out through a simple & easy cli command? 83
[14:29] <Rexter> sioli, if you want the latest and greatest, and don't mind upgrading is a couple of years, go with 12.10. If you want stability, and longevity, go with 12.04
[14:29] <sioli> in my case,absolutely.
[14:30] <ccsteale> you can use dmidecode to find out hardware information
[14:30] <XRS1> i personally recommend Ubuntu Studio 12.10  :)
[14:30] <sioli> yeah Rexter,my ubuntu 12,10 this cool,very good.
[14:31] <ccsteale> bluegrass, or you can use lspci which should tell you the vendor name laso
[14:31] <ccsteale> also*
[14:32] <TJ-> bluegrass: "lspci -nn | grep VGA" usually will find it
[14:32] <bluegrass> GeForce 8400 GS
[14:32] <TJ-> !nvidia | bluegrass
[14:33] <Ubuntuuser> Hi! Can i log what my users do on my ubuntu server?  Like what files they open and edit?
[14:33] <Ubuntuuser> And / Or can i disable their option to go above /home folder?
[14:33] <sioli> bluegrass what problem?
[14:34] <bluegrass> sioli i have a videocard and a suspicion that my computer doesn't correctly use it :C
[14:34] <ccsteale> bluegrass, what is the ouput of sudo lshw -C display - specifically line configuration: .....
[14:35] <sioli> ok,i have problem em my desktop pc,core i7 hd 4850(old), in my pc this same problem.
[14:35] <sioli> this module's up..?
[14:36] <bluegrass> configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[14:37] <ccsteale> is nvidia-current installed? if not install that via apt-get
[14:38] <saber_> hiiiiiiiiiii
[14:41] <p0rk> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a 250GB drive and it went fine. When I reboot, Grub throws errors. When I boot into a live cd or anything else, it doesnt even find the drive.
[14:42] <ccsteale> p0rk, does running fdisk -l or parted -l show anything useful?
[14:42] <p0rk> it shows literally nothing
[14:43] <bluegrass> ty
[14:43] <bluegrass> now wine won't load ;-;
[14:43] <Guest9915> I can't Install ubuntu server edition in a Rack Server, I just Can't i't does not boot to install. what can I do?
[14:43] <ccsteale> p0rk, anything obvious in dmesg?
[14:44] <ccsteale> bluegrass, what error is wine throwing?
[14:44] <ccsteale> Guest9915, What installation medium are you using? when trying to boot up into which ever medium what sort of issues are you having?
[14:44] <bluegrass> waiting for outpot in cli
[14:44] <p0rk> ccsteale, hang on gotta boot back up and check
[14:44] <ccsteale> Guest9915, any error messages you can provide would be greap
[14:45] <p0rk> this is what iget why i try to boot from the hdd: “invalid arch independent ELF magic”
[14:45] <Guest9915> ccsteale, no Just I can't boot the cd to install I already downloades 3 versions of ubuntu, 32 and 64 but it does not boot to install :(
[14:46] <ademone> hi
[14:46] <ademone> does someone know what is the proxy of gr.archive.ubuntu.com?
[14:46] <ccsteale> p0rk, seems like boot config is messed up to be honest, can you mount /dev/sda5 to /mnt and run grub-update or grub-install?
[14:47] <bluegrass> no cli output yet :/
[14:47] <p0rk> ccsteale, thats actually what ive been trying, but when i boot to a livecd or anything else, there are no sd* devices in /dev/
[14:47] <ccsteale> Guest9915, Any for of error messages on the screen, if you aren't getting any error messages whats the output you do see? is your rack server set to boot from cd before HDD or network?
[14:48] <Guest9915> yes
[14:48] <ccsteale> p0rk, is this in a laptop/desktop/server? id advise pulling the drive our and back in and checking what dmesg as to say to see if it picks the drives up and if it does it seems like its going to be a driver issue, most likley no support from the kernel for the drives which is why it drops back to grub shell
[14:48] <Guest9915> ccsteale, yes it's set to boot from cd beforee hhd
[14:49] <Guest9915> ccsteale, do I have to try with USB?
[14:49] <p0rk> ccsteale, ok, ill take a look. i had lost a drive last week nad just tossed in an old 2.5" to tinker with
[14:50] <ccsteale> Guest9915, what ouput do you get from screen or does the server not even get to the point of booting the cd? Can you take a picture of the screen where it fails and send it to me somehow so I can advise, also if your server supports usb booting I would advise doing that rather than cd but thats just a matter of opinion but ubuntu supports both, try usb for time being
[14:52] <Shinobi> Is there a way to default xchat to hide join/part messages?
[14:53] <dv-> anyone know how to turn on antialiasing with the radeon drivers in 12.10?
[14:54] <Guest9915> ccsteale, no the server neve get to the point to boot the cd just start and continue to boot defora the old OS
[14:54] <DJones> Shinobi: I think if you right click on the channel, its an option under the Extra settings
[14:54] <Shinobi> DJones: It's not persistent. Should it be?
[14:54] <bipul> hellow security
[14:55] <DJones> Shinobi: It should be
[14:55] <Shinobi> hmmm
[14:55] <DJones> Shinobi: You have to do each channel individually, I don't think there is a global setting
[14:55] <p0rk> ccsteale, booted into system rescue cd, now i can see the drive at least
[14:55] <Shinobi> ok. thx
[14:55] <p0rk> so i can try mouting and installing grub again
[14:57] <smacktalk> what's a good program for .rar files?
[14:58] <DJones> !rar | smacktalk
[14:58] <a_b0y> when connecting smartphone to computer how do i allow Ubuntu to share its internet connection? thanks
[14:59] <NikP> How can I change my default DESKTOP file handler from nemo to nautilus?
[15:02] <ccsteale> p0rk, let me know how it goes :)
[15:02] <zucaro> hi
[15:02] <ccsteale> Guest9915, disconnect your drive and then try boot from cd? if not force the server to boot from cd that whay it should hang with the error
[15:02] <ccsteale> zucaro, hi
[15:02] <NikP> Has anyone an answer for my question? I don't like it erverytime from startup to kill nemo and start nautilus.
[15:03] <zucaro> hi ccsteale ;)
[15:03] <ccsteale> NikP, do you use it at all? remove it?
[15:04] <zucaro> does anyone have any experience with transmission from the command line. trying to enable the webui from ssh
[15:04] <ccsteale> zucaro, have you installed transmission-deamon?
[15:05] <zucaro> no, only transmission-gtk
[15:05] <NikP> ccsteale: I've tested out to remove it, but when I log in, then I haven't ANY file handler on my desktop. I must start nautilus manually.
[15:05] <zucaro> install the deamon?
[15:06] <arucard> alguien sabe uncanal de xubuntu
[15:06] <ccsteale> yeah, thats what you'll need for the webui - zucaro
[15:06] <ccsteale> NikP, you'll need to add nautils to the default runlevel
[15:06] <ccsteale> NikP, update-rc.d nautils dafaults
[15:06] <ccsteale> that should do the trick
[15:07] <zucaro> ok installed the daemon
[15:07] <NikP> ccsteale: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/nautilus: file does not exist
[15:08] <zucaro> reading man-page
[15:08] <v0lksman> anyone know how to force an ethernet adapter to restart or recheck for link?
[15:08] <v0lksman> ifup ifdown isn't it
[15:08] <ccsteale> zucaro, you'll need to eddit the transmission config file :)
[15:09] <ccsteale> v0lksman, ifdown ifup will work aswell as /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:09] <v0lksman> ccsteale: that doesn't restart the hardware...that just resets the config applied.
[15:09] <NikP> ccsteale: OK, after rebooting the computer it works. Thank you!
[15:09] <a_b0y> when connecting smartphone to computer how do i allow Ubuntu to share its internet connection? thanks
[15:10] <v0lksman> ccsteale: the problem is that the card won't detect link, but there is no reason for it, there is link and the driver works as the primary card is using the exact same driver
[15:10] <arucard> alguien sabe como estraer una memoria de usb en xubuntu
[15:11] <llutz> !es | arucard
[15:11] <speter> hi, can anyone tell me how to supress the skype appindicator from the top panel? Skype-wrapper can do it in 64 bit, but not in 32 bit...
[15:11] <zucaro> ccsteale, after i have installed the daemon how do I enable the webui? start the transmission-remote process?
[15:12] <ccsteale> v0lksman, ahh okay my apologies i misread the query - for the network adapter to pick up the link it will do that automatically and the interface doesnt need restarting, if the drivers enable then and the interface is being picked up it seems more likley to be an issue coming into the nic
[15:13] <ccsteale> zucaro, run the command sudo /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon
[15:13] <ccsteale> zucaro, I would advise running that in a screen session if it is on a headless box but if not then that should be good to go
[15:14] <zucaro> oh i think its working, getting a 403 error now... will google how to add myself to whitelist
[15:14] <ccsteale> zucaro, in the settings.json there is the line rcp-whitelist - add your ip in there :)
[15:14] <ccsteale> zucaro, rpc* sorry
[15:15] <v0lksman> So here's the story:  Lenovo server with 3 NICs, 1 e1000 and 2 igb (i350).  If I build the system and use the e1000 interface during the build the 2 i350 interfaces will never light up with link after the install is complete.  If I use one of the i350 interfaces during the install it stays lit and functional after the install but the other i350 interface won't light up.  The e1000 is fine no matter what.  This behaviour is reproducable.  Any thoug
[15:15] <SunMoonStar> Hi guys. Quick q. I made a .desktop file to launch an application and used xdg-desktop-menu install in the command line to add it to the dash. Now when I go to the dash, it shows up, but it has no name. Just an icon with no name under it. The icon works correctly though. Here's the contents of the .desktop file: http://pastebin.com/NDWP8gNX ... Anyone know what this might be?
[15:16] <v0lksman> After install on the booted OS if I run ethtool -i on the i350 interfaces they show the same driver and version as a working interface (on a system where the i350 was used during the install)
[15:17] <drag0nius> would 12.10 run badly on 1.6ghz cpu, 768 ram & geforce 5500fx?
[15:17] <elianardi> ciao
[15:18] <a_b0y> drag0nius WinXP would run great on that :)
[15:18] <zucaro> hmmm where would the transmission settings file be? /etc?
[15:18] <ccsteale> v0lksman, thats rather quite odd, im leaning towards that being an issue with how ubuntu is setting up the nic's - im gonna try reproduce see if i can see it happening
[15:19] <ccsteale> zucaro, run the following 2 commands   updatedb && locate settings.json
[15:19] <ccsteale> zucaro, that will show you where that file is you need to edit
[15:20] <p0rk> ccsteale, im trying to do a grub-install but it says "Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time."
[15:20] <p0rk> and it's still saying that
[15:20] <zucaro> oh thanks mate
[15:20] <zucaro> easy
[15:21] <ccsteale> p0rk, run - grub-install /dev/sda that should be done within the minute see if that works
[15:22] <p0rk> says /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[15:23] <ccsteale> p0rk, sounds like the device map might be foobarred
[15:23] <ccsteale> p0rk, mount your boot partitions to /boot and run
[15:23] <ccsteale> p0rk, grub-mkdevicemap --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map
[15:23] <ccsteale> p0rk, things should be fine to run grub install then
[15:24] <p0rk> k, trying now
[15:24] <p0rk> sda1 is boot, right?
[15:24] <p0rk> normallty
[15:25] <ccsteale> should be yeah, check fdisk -l and look for smallest partition, most likeley that p0rk
[15:26] <p0rk> grub-mkdevicemap is not found on my box
[15:26] <p0rk> i guess i could always try to reinstall ubuntu too
[15:27] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I downloaded a pdf and it has some high quality pics in it. Okular is taking like forever to open the pages and even if I leave it opened for a while it is not loading all the pages, any suggestions?
[15:27] <ccsteale> p0rk, could always try doing that, it would most likley fix the issue, but i hate being defeated by a bad install :P one last effort  - try grub-update /dev/sda
[15:27] <Shinobi> I'm not seeing metacity under apps in dconf-editor. What am I doing wrong?
[15:29] <Hardlec99> xD
[15:29] <v0lksman> http://dpaste.com/834822/
[15:29] <v0lksman> Very strang problem!  Any help appreciated!  http://dpaste.com/834822/
[15:31] <zucaro> thanks for help guys.
[15:31] <zucaro> will be back :)
[15:31] <ccsteale> zucaro, let us know if you have any more issues :)
[15:33] <Hardlec99> Bye all :)
[15:34] <ccsteale> Hardlec99, byeee :)
[15:36] <SunMoonStar> nobody's run into my problem? >_<
[15:36] <Eagleman> I am trying to transfer our CVS program to another machine, but i am having problems with importing the passwd file. it just refuses to read it and so it only allows the user root
[15:36] <p0rk> ccsteale, this is only a test case anyway until i get new drives where i have to reinstall everything again
[15:36] <p0rk> so i dont mind reinstalling ubuntu, especially because i used 12.04, now ill use 12.10
[15:37] <ccsteale> Eagleman, you'll need to change the ownership of the file
[15:37] <ccsteale> Eagleman, or if the program only needs to read the file run the command chmod 755 <filename>
[15:38] <Eagleman> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root Software       403 Sep 27 07:42 passwd
[15:38] <ccsteale> is the software running as the software user?
[15:39] <Eagleman> cvsd      1134  0.0  0.1   1736   480 ?        SNs  Nov16   0:00 /usr/sbin/cvsd -f /etc/cvsd/cvsd.conf
[15:39] <ccsteale> Eagleman, in shell, run the command whoami
[15:40] <Eagleman> well i am logged in as root
[15:40] <Eagleman> so i am root
[15:40] <ccsteale> ahh okay, is the config file pointing at the correct file? sounds like a location issue rather than permissions
[15:41] <Eagleman> CVSROOT is in /cvs/CVSROOT
[15:43] <Eagleman> ccsteale on our other server i see this when ps aux | grep cvs
[15:43] <Eagleman> 10089     9090 18.5  0.0   2732   900 ?        Ss   16:43   0:00 cvs server
[15:43] <Eagleman> 10089     9091 34.5  0.0   2736   872 ?        R    16:43   0:00 cvs server
[15:44] <ccsteale> Eagleman, can you paste the exact command and error in http://www.dpaste.org/ so i cant take a look
[15:44] <Eagleman> WHich command?
[15:44] <ccsteale> the command your running to start the cvs application where you reported it wont read the password file
[15:45] <Eagleman> Thats the problem cvs is so vague, i dont even know how i started it. its not working like a normal deamon
[15:46] <ccsteale> on the orignal server can you login as root and run history? hopefully that might tell you how you initially got it started
[15:47] <darrenlooby> Hi Guys, anyone know how to install php5.2 - I need it for a short while, so I have time to update site to newer version (old bit of code causing issues)
[15:47] <Eagleman> ccsteale its like 5 years old or even more, history wont help me :(
[15:47] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[15:49] <darrenlooby> Ubuntu 12.04 - TheLordOfTime
[15:49] <lucido> hi, at boot time my pc says waiting for network configuration for a long time, I have lan cable connected and router is set up fine. When I log in the nm-applet is missing and I can get network connection by executing sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[15:49] <darrenlooby> It's a fresh install too - so PHP not currently on there
[15:49] <lucido> its ubuntu 12.10
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, there's no PHP 5.2 package for Ubuntu 12.04, someone'd have to retroactively port php 5.2 to 12.04, and that's not happening because 5.2 is *old*
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> like beyond old
[15:50] <darrenlooby> Hmm... so not possible to install from binary?
[15:50] <darrenlooby> What's the newest version of Ubuntu I can install 5.2 on?
[15:51] <ccsteale> Eagleman, on the old/current server where cvs is running do ps -f
[15:52] <ccsteale> or ps -auxf either one - Eagleman
[15:52] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, no clue, i'd have to check
[15:53] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, what're you using that uses php 5.2?  5.2's at the latest in 8.04 and nothing else
[15:53] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, 5.3.x or 5.4.x in every other supported release since.
[15:53] <ccsteale> darrenlooby, are you familiar with compiling software from source? - if not I know that ubuntu 8 has it in it's repo's possibly 10 but i dont believe so
[15:53] <TheLordOfTime> ccsteale, 10.04 has the 5.3 series
[15:53] <darrenlooby> I've installed a couple of things from source - would that help me, to give that ago?
[15:54] <darrenlooby> It's a cloud sever, so no real harm in binning it if it goes wrong
[15:54] <zoneout83> Is someone willing to help me with a wireless nic problem? I have a wusb100 I think v 1.0 and it only seems to work until I reach about 12mb of bandwidth then I have to disconnect and reconnect.
[15:54] <ccsteale> Yeah you'll be able to install 5.2 from source
[15:55] <darrenlooby> Right, I'll tut myself up and give that ago then ccsteale - and come back with my tail between my legs when it goes wrong lol
[15:55] <merica> im having a situation where my 1tb usb3 external hard drive is not being recognized on my desktop
[15:55] <merica> same drive is recognized in my laptop
[15:55] <zoneout83> Which is to say I may be coming in and out of here a lot until i fix this
[15:55] <GlitterBoy> How do I configure Ubuntu 11.10 for optimal power savings for a HP6910p laptop with a Intel GM965 chipset
[15:56] <zoneout83> I installed all my updates already via a long line of disconnect reconnect...
[15:56] <ccsteale> darrenlooby, another thing you can try but it might not work/be amazingly unstable is use the karmic repo's on ubuntu 10 but compiling from source is the way to go and a hell of a lot more fun
[15:56] <merica> lsusb and dmesg don't even register that the drive is plugged in
[15:56] <darrenlooby> ccsteale, lol cheers, I'll take note of that :D
[15:57] <ccsteale> merica, problem might be with the connection, can you try plugging it into a different machine and seeing if it's picked up?
[15:57] <zoneout83> I am running ubuntu 12.04 lts I believe...
[15:57] <ccsteale> darrenlooby, good luck :D
[15:57] <Pip>  So is ubuntu more and more sophisticated as Windows now?
[15:57] <merica> ccsteale: the drive does work in my laptop, ubuntu 12.10 mounts it automatically
[15:57] <merica> just not on the desktop
[15:57] <bazhang> Pip, thats not a support question
[15:57] <merica> i tried, multiple ports, same thing
[15:58] <Pip> lol
[15:58] <ccsteale> Pip, depends what you mean by sophisticated? its a damn lot coold :D and true what bazhang said
[15:58] <merica> i know the drive works, and i know the usb ports work
[15:58] <bazhang> Pip, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:58] <merica> becuase i have bt, webcam, keyboard, plugged into them
[15:58] <Pip> What I mean by sophisticated is that when ubuntu is broken, nobody knows how to fix it
[15:58] <zoneout83> Pip: as far as I have been concerned it's better than windows but it takes a little more time to manage because not as many companies put time in creating drivers or go out of their way to support it.
[15:58] <ccsteale> merica, are the ports usb 1/2? may be an issue there?
[15:59] <zoneout83> sorry bazhang
[15:59] <merica> i tried ALL the ports!
[15:59] <zoneout83> bazhang,  didn't know...
[15:59] <merica> usb 1,2,3
[15:59] <Heather_> I'm going through apache2 access log and all the files for my site are loaded except .css files. the files are in the same location as the other files so it should not be permission issue?
[15:59] <ccsteale> merica, very strange, especially since dmesg isn't picking it up :/
[15:59] <merica> i even tried unplugging all other things, and plugging in only the drive
[15:59] <merica> still nothing
[16:00] <zoneout83> Still looking for help with wusb100 wireless nic
[16:00] <merica> yeah
[16:00] <sam_> Hey I am having a problem I may need some assistance if you can help?
[16:00] <merica> strange
[16:00] <ccsteale> sam_, how can we help sam
[16:00] <merica> wat is problem?
[16:00] <ccsteale> merica, anything in syslog/messages?
[16:01] <ccsteale> Heather_, anything in the error log? can you go direcetly to the .css files via browser?
[16:03] <sam_> I am trying to download GIMP, a photo-shop like program, and when I try to download from the software centre It says, "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[16:04] <a_b0y> i heard win8 is great because everything just works
[16:04] <merica> ccsteale: don't see anything in syslog
[16:04] <merica> maybe some audio issues
[16:04] <ccsteale> sam_, have you ammended your sources.lsit file with non standard repo's? I wouldn't advise installing from unauthenticated sources but it should install fine
[16:04] <Heather_> ccsteale yes I can access the .css file through the browser
[16:04] <Simurg> Hi!
[16:04] <Simurg> Is unity more resource hungry then kde (kubuntu)?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> sam_  they may be plugins from third parties
[16:05] <Heather_> might be something with the header since the css file is present there
[16:05] <Simurg> I saw a benchmarking today, claiming so.
[16:05] <ccsteale> MonkeyDust, thats what I was thinking aswell
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> Simurg, not that i know of, but if resources are an issue, look at Lubuntu or Xubuntu.
[16:05] <InspectorCluseau> sam_, I'm dl'ing gimp right noe with muon ... no warnings at all.
[16:05] <xomniverse> I am using Xubuntu 12.10 and when I am playing a game full screen in DOSBox, for some reason it assumes I am idle and tries to go to a blank screen after 10 minutes. Strangely, in the middle of this process, it realizes that is not the case and brings the screen back.
[16:05] <Simurg> I tried both and unity seemed better, never tried KDE though.
[16:06] <xomniverse> This is disruptive of my game though.
[16:06] <Simurg> I hear you need to have its native programs to get more out of it.
[16:06] <Simurg> Ones with obsessed with letter K, I heard.
[16:06] <ccsteale> Heather_, cant imagine why can you try run the command cat access.log | grep .css - see if that returns anything
[16:06] <Simurg> *-with
[16:06] <sam_> My friend was able to download it fine he didn't know what was wrong.
[16:07] <zoneout83> how do I install the ndiswrapper
[16:07] <lahwran> how do I update to the experimental video drivers in 12.04?
[16:07] <zoneout83> or is it now buit in to linus?
[16:07] <sam_> with mine
[16:07] <zoneout83> *linux
[16:07] <Heather_> ccsteale problem solved linux is case sensetive windows is not
[16:08] <ccsteale> zoneout83, depending on what kernel version you are using will depend if its built into the kernel by default run the command ndiswrapper-dkms; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper - after that it should work fine as that will enable th nescessary kernel module
[16:08] <ccsteale> Heather_, glad its sorted :)
[16:10] <zoneout83> ccsteale thanks
[16:10] <zoneout83> ccsteale be back at you in a couple minutes...
[16:10] <zoneout83> 12.04 btw
[16:10] <xomniverse> anyone else had issues with Ubuntu or Xubuntu assuming you are idle when using DOSBox and thus trying to make the screen go blank/screensaver?
[16:10] <ccsteale> zoneout83, ive done that before on 12.04, any problems let me know
[16:11] <zoneout83> sam_ did you try sudo apt-get install gimp
[16:12] <sam_> My friend was able to download it fine he didn't know what was wrong. Thanks y'all.
[16:12] <zoneout83> sam_, did that work?
[16:12] <llutz> sam_: you need to import the repo-signing-key for the repository you download gimp from
[16:14] <sam_> zoneout83, it is working.
[16:16] <zoneout83> ccsteale, unable to locate the ndiswrapper
[16:16] <v0lksman> to which directory should I build kernel modules?
[16:16] <sam_> it worked thanks
[16:17] <v0lksman> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ doesn't persist after a reboot
[16:17] <GlitterBoy> hello
[16:18] <p0rk> if i choose to install kvm during install, does it boot differently from a normal install?
[16:18] <zoneout83> sam_ glad that worked keep in mind llutz is probably more familar
[16:21] <zoneout83> Does anyone know how to install the ndiswrapper? apt-get or otherwise?
[16:21] <bc81> hello.  i'm using 12.04, and trying to get games working on pogo.com in firefox and/or chrome.  no luck whatsoever; i've tried just about every java jre & browser plugin i could find..any suggestions to get this working?
[16:21] <bazhang> zoneout83, ndisgtk?
[16:22] <lucido> how can I get rid of the waiting for network configuration at boot?
[16:22] <merica> apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-dkms
[16:22]  * bc81 wonders if there is come magical combination of java & flash to play these browser games..
[16:23] <merica> apt-get install dnsiwrapper-utils-1.9
[16:23] <zoneout83> merica, thanks just got there with a google *feels sheepish*
[16:24] <merica> apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[16:24] <zoneout83> merica, does that work on all package searches?
[16:24] <v0lksman> why do my kernel modules get overwritten on reboot?
[16:24] <merica> try it out and see
[16:25] <zoneout83> wth was that?
[16:25] <merica> ?
[16:25] <zoneout83> the spam...
[16:25] <rm-fr> merica: probably because you're not loading them upon boot?
[16:26] <auronandace> !modules | v0lksman
[16:26] <merica> wut
[16:26] <zoneout83> merica, I know it does I did learn a new command though ;)
[16:26] <ccsteale> v0lksman, why dont you build them into the kernel rather than having them as modules?
[16:26] <v0lksman> ccsteale: cause I'm just trying to see if they work to begin with
[16:27] <merica> cause then hed have to rebuild the kernel
[16:27] <rm-fr> why would you do that
[16:27] <zoneout83> merica, I think there needs to be a help file associated with help apt that shows all the extensions like apt-get apt-cache ect
[16:28] <v0lksman> module-assistant: command not found
[16:28] <merica> man apt-cache
[16:28] <merica> man apt-get
[16:28] <auronandace> zoneout83: man apt
[16:28] <zoneout83> sweet thanks auronandace
[16:29] <zoneout83> I think I used to know that but I haven't ran ubuntu since 8 hardy heron
[16:29] <l0p3n> Hello! Is there any way I can find out what bashrc my terminal is using?
[16:29] <SlitazMint_noteb> My screen is black after installing fglrx on 12.10 server edition absolutely nothing on screen. What do I do?
[16:29] <merica> uninstall fglrx
[16:30] <merica> ...
[16:30] <auronandace> SlitazMint_noteb: why do you need fglrx on a server?
[16:30] <merica> ^
[16:30] <SlitazMint_noteb> I'm using it on my desktop. I wanted a minimal install.
[16:30] <auronandace> !mini | SlitazMint_noteb
[16:31] <SlitazMint_noteb> hmmm
[16:31] <SlitazMint_noteb> I did not know about that
[16:31] <zoneout83> i should be using xp drivers with ndiswrapper right?
[16:31] <lucido> is there a solution for this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2073593 ?
[16:32] <zoneout83> i should be using xp drivers with ndiswrapper right?
[16:32] <merica> idk
[16:32] <SlitazMint_noteb> Does mini come with a DE?
[16:32] <auronandace> SlitazMint_noteb: no
[16:33] <compdoc> lucido, does the wifi work once it finanly boots?
[16:33] <compdoc> finally
[16:33] <SlitazMint_noteb> auronandace: Awesome!
[16:33] <SlitazMint_noteb> But won't I get the same problem with fglrx?
[16:33] <lucido> Commander1024, its ethernet lan and it works after I restart network-manager
[16:34] <merica> don't use fglrx
[16:34] <SlitazMint_noteb> I need fglrx.
[16:34] <lucido> compdoc,  , its ethernet lan and it works after I restart network-manager
[16:34] <auronandace> SlitazMint_noteb: no idea, i use the open source driver
[16:34] <merica> why
[16:34] <SlitazMint_noteb> Because of acceleration for videos for one.
[16:34] <compdoc> lucido, that url you posted isnt your config then?
[16:34] <SlitazMint_noteb> And games now that Steam beta is out.
[16:34] <lucido> not exactly only the symtoms
[16:34] <merica> soooo, you don't want a minimal install
[16:35] <SlitazMint_noteb> Yes I do.
[16:35] <bazhang> merica, thats not helpful
[16:35] <SlitazMint_noteb> I want Mate w/o installing Unity.
[16:35] <auronandace> SlitazMint_noteb: mate isn't supported
[16:35] <lucido> compdoc, this is my config: http://pastebin.com/hirLcxXq
[16:35] <merica> how did you install fglrx?
[16:36] <b4ch> !bugs
[16:36] <bazhang> merica, editorializing and offtopic commentary to #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[16:36] <SlitazMint_noteb> merica: apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcc...
[16:36] <SlitazMint_noteb> the created a new xorg config
[16:37] <merica> my experience with video drivers leads me to download from the source
[16:37] <merica> ati/nvidia
[16:37] <compdoc> lucido, that config shows you have 4 ethernet and one wifi card?
[16:37] <merica> and build them
[16:37] <lollko> lalal la la lla llla alla allal ;)
[16:37] <lollko> :D
[16:37] <SlitazMint_noteb> merica: Ok, cool. I'll try that.
[16:39] <lucido> compdoc, I have a single ethernet card integrated in my mobo, the config is a default config I had there
[16:39] <compdoc> lucido, do you use ppp to connect to your isp? or what is your ethernet card connected to?
[16:39] <lucido> companion, ethernet
[16:39] <lucido> compdoc, , ethernet
[16:39] <compdoc> it connects to a router?
[16:40] <lucido> compdoc,  yes, router is fine
[16:42] <compdoc> lucido, this is all you should have:    http://pastebin.com/w8MQTPmj
[16:42] <lucido> compdoc, I'll try that, thanks!
[16:42] <compdoc> be sure to remove the #
[16:45] <compdoc> lucido, can you show me the output of:  cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[16:45] <compdoc> ooops
[16:45] <GlitterBoy> hello all
[16:45] <ccsteale> Hi GlitterBoy
[16:47] <p0rk> ccsteale, i tried the 12.10 install on 2 different drives and got the same error, installation failed at the install the system step
[16:47] <p0rk> so im trying 12.04 again on the 2nd drive
[16:48] <p0rk> i just started the install the base system step now
[16:48] <p0rk> so we'll see
[16:48] <p0rk> fingers crossed
[16:48] <bc81> hello.  i'm using 12.04, and trying to get games working on pogo.com in firefox and/or chrome.  no luck whatsoever; i've tried just about every java jre & browser plugin i could find..any suggestions to get this working?
[16:49] <ccsteale> p0rk, might be lack of driver support in the 12.10 kernel, let me know if it works on 12.04 and let me know you drive types later and ill take a look at that
[16:49] <p0rk> ok, its 2 different drives. first was seagate, this one is western digital
[16:50] <lucido> compdoc, same crap
[16:51] <bazhang> bc81, works fine here. what version of Ubuntu are you on, and what java do you have installed
[16:51] <cosmicpearls> hi all
[16:51] <v0lksman> so what is module-assistant supposed to do for me?  when I load it and go to select a module it doesn't show the module I just built
[16:52] <bc81> bazhang, hello.  i'm using xubuntu 12.04 (fully up-to-date) and have so many versions of java installed, i'm not sure how to find that out.  java -version says: java version "1.7.0_09"
[16:53] <bazhang> bc81, its a bit slow to load; I've got Monopoly running no problems once it does load
[16:53] <Gnea> bc81: I would start by removing every version of java you have, particular if it was NOT installed via apt/synaptic/software center, and then remove those as well in the proper way
[16:54] <dcherniv> bc81, or use update-alternatives to pick the java version you want
[16:54] <zoneout83> alright so I'm reading here and it says disable the free drivers but the config file doesn't seem to exist to add it to the blacklist
[16:55] <zoneout83> also I need to know how to undo these steps before I do them so i can get to help again...
[16:57] <bc81> bazhang: what about the game "Makeover Madness" it seems to be java based, and broken.  monopoly is flash based, and works fine (albeit with some rendering issues on the main menu)
[16:57] <bazhang> bc81, let me check, just a moment
[16:58] <zoneout83> p0rk, ccsteale, if it makes any difference I have a wd hd 500 gb 7200 rpm and have 12.04 and it works fine thus far
[16:58] <ee12059> hi jonnes
[16:59] <p0rk> ccsteale, looks like the 12.04 install worked fine
[16:59] <p0rk> got passed the problem step anyway, didnt get to grub portion
[16:59] <sambagirl> good morning. i backed up my home directory on one of my laptops as i need to move from 10.10 to a fresher version. my question is where are the notes that are associated with the applet that you add to your panel located because i need all of that notes. seecondly does kubuntu have gnome 2 option cause i need the upper and lower panel option and i dont see that in ubuntu anymore?
[17:00] <ee12113> helllo
[17:00] <simonpe^^> I did "apt-get purge pulseaudio*" to try to fix some sound issues. It turns out pulseaudio was not the villain so i re-installed with "apt-get install pulseaudio-*". Now the sound in flash does not work (i.e. youtube) and the sound applet isn
[17:00] <simonpe^^> t autostarted anymore
[17:00] <ee12113> hello
[17:00] <ee12113> hello
[17:00] <simonpe^^> fix how?
[17:00] <ee12113> hello
[17:00] <bazhang> bc81, that requires membership, best as I can tell
[17:00] <ee12046> mekie?
[17:00] <ee12046> kf
[17:00] <ee12113> boas pessoaçl
[17:00] <sambagirl> also does anyone have major problems with chrome?
[17:00] <bazhang> !pt | ee12113
[17:02] <bazhang> !notunity | sambagirl
[17:02] <bazhang> install gnome-panel sambagirl
[17:02] <sambagirl> ok bazhang thanks
[17:02] <sambagirl> what about the sticky notes?
[17:04] <sambagirl> one last question, is it possible to have w8 / xp / ubuntu partitions using grub?
[17:04] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/207923/is-there-a-sticky-note-application-similar-to-windows-sticky-note sambagirl
[17:04] <bazhang> sambagirl, xpad seems to be the sticky note of choice
[17:05] <bc81> bazhang: sorry about that, my wife has a free trial membership for 2 weeks and i wasn't aware it's member only.. another (non member-only) game that is java based and not loading is Sock Hop Slots
[17:06] <sambagirl> haha bazhang. i was looking online in a forum and it's a real challenge so i will just copy/paste to email and send to myself and re do them in new set. also are applets still available in new ubuntu versions?
[17:06] <Gnea> sambagirl: I think so, but for w8 you probably need to chainload to ntloader
[17:06] <merica> sambagirl: win8 uses the eufi by default
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> uefi
[17:07] <merica> uefi*
[17:07] <merica> ty
[17:07] <bazhang> sambagirl, in 12.10, gnome-shell , they are called "extensions" and there are very many of them. applets are around, though you would need to be more specific for me to answer that
[17:07] <sambagirl> thanks
[17:07] <bazhang> bc81, ok checking
[17:07] <v0lksman> so I make install my module which places it in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net module-assistant doesn't show me that module in the list...
[17:07] <v0lksman> what am I doing wrong?
[17:07] <bc81> thanks, bazhang
[17:09] <p0rk> ccsteale, rebooting into os for first time
[17:10] <Gnea> sambagirl: also, http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/
[17:10] <p0rk> everything looks well so far
[17:10] <sambagirl> bazhang for example i like weather / system monitor / rolling eyes / sticky notes / cpu frequency / search / multiple shells / various apps i need to launch regulary like htop, teamviewer, vmware...where you have date,time,...
[17:10] <sambagirl> thanks gnea
[17:10] <bazhang> bc81, works fine, I'm on 12.10 with the same version of java that you have and firefox 17
[17:10] <lucido> compdoc, for the recod: putting only auto lo and iface lo inet loopback lines and nothing else in the interfaces file solves the waiting for network configuration at boot time error
[17:11] <lucido> r
[17:11] <compdoc> lucido, good - we need to keep that record straight
[17:11] <compdoc> lucido, can you show me the output of:  cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[17:12] <compdoc> lucido, oh, wait. you use network-manager? if so, it doesnt matter
[17:12] <bazhang> sambagirl, for unity, they are called lenses: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38772/what-lenses-for-unity-are-available
[17:12] <sambagirl> am i the only one having major issues with chrome browser across "all os's" or is anyone else?
[17:12] <p0rk> ugh
[17:12] <super-hego> hi
[17:12] <p0rk> it booted up but i get ext4-fs error's now
[17:12] <p0rk> wtf
[17:12] <sambagirl> unity is out for me bazhang
[17:12] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[17:12] <bazhang> p0rk, no cursing here
[17:12] <lucido> compdoc, http://pastebin.com/nLGpEN6X why?
[17:12] <security> p0rk: mind your words
[17:13] <zoneout83> sambagirl, before you go trying to do dual booting make a supergrub disk it might save you in a pinch
[17:13] <bazhang> sambagirl, you might wish to check screenlets then
[17:13] <super-hego> ping
[17:13] <Munchor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tiff/libtiff4_3.9.5-2ubuntu1.2_i386.deb  404  Not Found I am getting that, I can't update
[17:13] <compdoc> lucido, that looks like only a partial of the 70-persistent-net.rules file, and that shows two different nics. Anyway, as long as it works....
[17:14] <Munchor> Any ideas on what the problem is?
[17:14] <p0rk> my fstab is corrupted
[17:14] <p0rk> buncha junk in it
[17:15] <zoneout83> ndiswrapper issue here, how do I blacklist my current w nic driver
[17:15] <zoneout83> ?
[17:15] <Gnea> sambagirl: how is chrome misbehaving? works fine here..
[17:16] <lapion> why is skype-bin:i386 being installed as an update ?
[17:16] <Gnea> that isn't to say that chrome hasn't misbehaved for me in the past ;)
[17:16] <p0rk> how can i fix a corrupted fstab?
[17:16] <cheesecakes> hello
[17:16] <Gnea> p0rk: how corrupted is it?
[17:16] <p0rk> full of junk
[17:16] <Gnea> p0rk: 'junk'?
[17:16] <cheesecakes> i did an upgrade and lost my sound completely
[17:16] <p0rk> not even plain text
[17:17] <p0rk> yep
[17:17] <NCsaba> Hi all. I've a quick question: Can I create a bootable linux pen drive (xubuntu preferable) which can be a full functional, updateble, configurable system that is different then a live version. So changes need to be persistent, like kernel updates, eventually custom compiled kernels, etc... so any change I do on it should stay after a reboot.
[17:17] <Gnea> p0rk: ooooh.... well, you'd have to recreate it by hand...
[17:17] <NCsaba> it there a tool for that?
[17:17] <p0rk> :(
[17:17] <p0rk> its a brand new install, one disk, sda, normal partition
[17:17] <IdleOne> !usb | NCsaba Look at the second link
[17:17] <Gnea> p0rk: documentation is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[17:18] <Gnea> p0rk: oh good, that'll make the recreation easier
[17:18] <cheesecakes> also my computer has also become very slow after the update
[17:18] <NCsaba> yes, I found this but http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux gives 503
[17:18] <auronandace> !blacklist | zoneout83
[17:18] <Gnea> p0rk: that website will basically introduce you to each tool and how to use each tool in order to get the correct bits that you need to regenerate your fstab
[17:18] <cheesecakes> it was a kernel update i think
[17:18] <bekks> NCsaba: Thats a server error then.
[17:18] <NCsaba> yup
[17:18] <cheesecakes> any suggestions?
[17:19] <Gnea> p0rk: kinda makes me wish there was a script to do that automatically
[17:19] <IdleOne> NCsaba: Use unetbootin
[17:19] <NCsaba> anyone knows a mirror for that?
[17:20] <cheesecakes> i am using 12.04
[17:20] <cheesecakes> and the laptop is a dell inspiron 1420
[17:20] <Gnea> p0rk: looks like someone tried... not sure if they managed to succeed: https://jamfnation.jamfsoftware.com/discussion.html?id=4237
[17:20] <cheesecakes> before the reboot the sound was working now it isnt
[17:21] <Gnea> cheesecakes: did you check your mixer?
[17:21] <cheesecakes> how do i do that?
[17:21] <cheesecakes> nvm i think i saw that on wiki i'll brb
[17:22] <Gnea> !sound | cheesecakes
[17:22] <morphiss> Hi there ;)
[17:22] <NCsaba> IdleOne: unetbootin can create persistent os?
[17:23] <IdleOne> NCsaba: yes
[17:25] <cheesecakes> alsamixer was muted
[17:25] <cheesecakes> but on the volume control applet it wasnt muted
[17:26] <belgianguy> what comes before alpha?
[17:26] <cheesecakes> that was scary
[17:26] <Gnea> cheesecakes: I did away with unity and gnome and installed E17, so I only use alsamixer these days.
[17:26] <cheesecakes> i am using gnome
[17:26] <cheesecakes> but i like ratposion better
[17:26] <Gnea> I should probably just install bodhi linux one of these days
[17:27] <auronandace> belgianguy: what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[17:27] <belgianguy> auronandace:  if anyone knows, please let the rest know when the Ubunty Web-Apss get to that stage
[17:27] <cheesecakes> i just intalled ubuntu natively after playing arounf with it in a vm
[17:27] <zoneout83> belgianguy, development or dv
[17:27] <cheesecakes> o i am still a bit noobish
[17:27] <zoneout83> *dev
[17:27] <Gnea> cheesecakes: I like E17 for the simple fact that it will run on an older pentium and modern hardware
[17:28] <belgianguy> zoneout83: regular usage, as was promised in 12.10
[17:28] <SpaceRocket> Full disk encryption doesn't fully encrypt the disk as the /boot is still plain, which can be easily vulnerable
[17:28] <belgianguy> it's been pretty dissappointing tbh, while it shows much promise
[17:28] <cheesecakes> gnea: i think ratposion would too
[17:29] <cheesecakes> its has no graphics and fully keyboard based
[17:29] <belgianguy> half of them don't work, don't get updated (GrooveShark) or just take out Firefox when you click on them
[17:29] <bekks> SpaceRocket: As long as you have physical access, every encryption is vulnerable.
[17:29] <Gnea> cheesecakes: that would be awesome to see. I used to run fvwm2 on a 486 and early versions of E13 and such were developed around such hardware.
[17:30] <alessio> hi guys! Can you please suggest an mp3 player able to read and display lyrics stored in the ID3 tag?
[17:30] <cheesecakes> it has a learning curve but afterwards you love it
[17:30] <alessio> I can find players that search for lyrics on the internet, but none that reads an existing lyrics tag
[17:30] <Gnea> !mp3 | alessio
[17:30] <SpaceRocket> yes bekks  but at least slowing the attacker  and make it more difficult
[17:30] <SpaceRocket> what is the difference between using FDE only and FDE with LVM ?
[17:30] <Gnea> alessio: ID3 tags aren't designed to hold all the lyrics of a song, just the basic information
[17:31] <cheesecakes> also the performance has decreased after the update any suggestions on that front?
[17:31] <alessio> Gnea: there is windows software which does that
[17:31] <NCsaba> IdleOne: what option should I choice to have a persistent os on usb penddrive: NetInstall, HdMedia or Live?
[17:32] <alessio> Gnea: for instance jetaudio
[17:32] <Hypernova> Any awesome games for ubuntu?
[17:32] <auronandace> !games | Hypernova
[17:32] <Hypernova> Underline *Awesome*
[17:33] <Gnea> alessio: I highly doubt that, the specification of ID3 doesn't allow for such a large amount of textual information to be included. Do you know what version of ID3 it is using?
[17:36] <alessio> Gnea: you are probably right, it's not a proper ID3 tag
[17:36] <alessio> Gnea: http://id3.org/Lyrics3v2
[17:36] <Gnea> alessio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JetAudio#Lyric_support  Yeah, it says right there: "JetAudio uses Cowon’s proprietary lyric tag format rather than the standard Lyrics3v2. As such, files tagged with the Lyrics3 format are not compatible with the lyric viewing function of JetAudio, and conversely, applications supporting Lyrics3 tags will not be able to display lyrics for files tagged with JetAudio."
[17:37] <Gnea> alessio: however, doing the .txt file thing might not be out of spec.... however, if they don't release the code to do that, it'd have to be reverse-engineered. I have no idea if anyone has been able to mimic that functionality.
[17:38] <newroad> hello, I have an optimus laptop with bumblebee, and i've installed latest drivers and bumblebee, but I think that the latest nvidia drivers aren't being loaded. I'm receiving errors that my secondary GPU could not be loaded. I see an nvidia-current_hybrid.conf file if I do "ls /etc/modprobe.d/*nvidia*", does that mean it is blacklisted?
[17:38] <cheesecakes> wow a lot stopped working after this update :/
[17:39] <ee12113> #include<stdio.h>
[17:39] <ee12113> #include<math.h>
[17:39] <ee12113> float factorial ( float y ) {
[17:39] <ee12113> 	int f=1;
[17:39] <ee12113>
[17:39] <ee12113> 	while(y>0)
[17:39] <FloodBot1> ee12113: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:39] <ee12113> 	{
[17:39] <cheesecakes> my webcam went too
[17:39] <sambagirl> i noticed that /usr/local/games/enemy-territory//et doesnt get copied in the home backup. so i need to backup the full hdd to get everything?
[17:39] <ee12059> #prog
[17:39] <alessio> Gnea: but do you know any other player that supports the Lyrics3 tag instead? and allows to read and save lyrics from an mp3?
[17:39] <cheesecakes> also the performance has taken a hit
[17:39] <Gnea> alessio: I can see how having the lyrics available like that would be nice, especially for deaf people
[17:40] <sambagirl> if i do sudo nautilus will that allow me to get the whole partition?
[17:40] <sambagirl> i meant file system
[17:40] <bazhang> sambagirl, its gksudo, but not a good idea
[17:41] <cheesecakes> it says device not found in cheese
[17:42] <iceroot> is there a way to prevent a file reading by root? (without encryption)
[17:42] <sambagirl> bazhang why not? i just want to have the whole drive. just as a Possession
[17:42] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:42] <Gnea> alessio: it doesn't look like anything has been officially released yet. id3lib seems to have support for it, though, so it looks like the bricks for the road have been built: http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/  Someone could be developing an app for it.
[17:42] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:42] <cheesecakes> whereas this webcam worked before upgrading
[17:42] <ee12059> ghhy
[17:42] <ee12113> asd
[17:42] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:42] <alessio> Gnea: it's actually for my father who has just switched to Linux. He listens to German music to learn the language
[17:42] <Gnea> alessio: That's a great idea, hadn't thought of that :)
[17:42] <newroad> hello, I have an optimus laptop with bumblebee, and i've installed latest drivers and bumblebee, but I think that the latest nvidia drivers aren't being loaded. I'm receiving errors that my secondary GPU could not be loaded. I see an nvidia-current_hybrid.conf file if I do "ls /etc/modprobe.d/*nvidia*", does that mean it is blacklisted?
[17:43] <bassliner> hi, anyone a clue if rc6 power saving for intel GPUs is possible with the current kernel release that comes with ubuntu 12.10 (3.2.x i assume ?)? if so, is it patched into the kernel? would i have to use kernel parameter "i915.i915_enable_rc6=1"? thanks.
[17:44] <ee12113> jjjjtyjj
[17:44] <ee12113> tyj
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[17:44] <ee12093> sadqw
[17:44] <ee12113> yj
[17:44] <FloodBot1> ee12113: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:44] <bassliner> nevermind, was a 12.04 where i just looked
[17:44] <ylan> Ok
[17:44] <ee12113> lul
[17:44] <ee12113> uilui
[17:44] <ee12113> ui
[17:44] <bassliner> can anyone tell me what kernel version a 12.10 installation currently has by default?
[17:44] <ee12113> ul
[17:44] <FloodBot1> ee12113: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <p0rk> looks like somehow /var/lib/apt/lists is a directory rather a file
[17:44] <SunMoonStar> how do I have a program the rights to write a file to it's cwd if it lies in /usr/local/games/ ? It seems that applications can't write to there by default..
[17:45] <sambagirl> it says i dont have permission to copy certain stuff so i skip but i cant sit here and check every sec is there another way? i dont want to use clonezilla
[17:45] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:45] <ee12046> #include <stdio.h>
[17:45] <ee12046> #include <math.h>
[17:45] <ee12046> #include<stdlib.h>
[17:45] <ee12046> int factorial (int y) {
[17:45] <ee12046> 	int f=1;
[17:45] <ee12046> 	while (y>0){
[17:45] <FloodBot1> ee12046: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <ee12046>
[17:45] <Gnea> !patience | ee12046
[17:45] <SpaceRocket> how to use full disk encryption and make separate /home partition
[17:45] <Gnea> !encryption | SpaceRocket
[17:46] <SunMoonStar> Anyone know how to give a program the permission to write a file to /usr/local/games/mygame ?
[17:46] <ee12172> file:///usr/users2/mieec2012/ee12172/prog1-tp1/restoPar.c
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, put it somewhere else?
[17:46] <Gnea> ee12172: do you have a question?
[17:47] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, /usr/local/* is usually owned by root, so you should have no need to write there...
[17:47] <ee12172> file:///usr/users2/mieec2012/ee12172/prog1-tp1/seno.c
[17:47] <ee12093> qwdq
[17:47] <newroad> hello, I have an optimus laptop with bumblebee, and i've installed latest drivers and bumblebee, but I think that the latest nvidia drivers aren't being loaded. I'm receiving errors that my secondary GPU could not be loaded. I see an nvidia-current_hybrid.conf file if I do "ls /etc/modprobe.d/*nvidia*", does that mean it is blacklisted?
[17:47] <sambagirl> i was copying the file system and it was larger than what the whole drive size is.  when it says file system does it mean even external drives that might be attached?
[17:47] <newroad> [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: XORG NVIDIA(0): Failed to assign any connected display devices to X screen 0
[17:47] <HTC-DZ> hi people. i need help :( ubuntu noob here
[17:47] <Gnea> bazhang: thank you
[17:47] <cheesecakes> i see it lsusb
[17:47] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, details are useful.
[17:48] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: I searched and found the recommendation that I should put installed programs in /usr/local and larger programs in /opt
[17:48] <cheesecakes> i see the webcam in lsusb but cheese says device not found
[17:48] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: This game writes a savesettings file but it can't since that's a root one :o was it a bad recommendation?
[17:48] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, that's a general recommendation not a all-the-time recommendation
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, in some cases that's not what you do, in your case try it in /opt
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, if that doesn't work why not just run it out of your home direcotry
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> directory*
[17:49] <HTC-DZ> lord, i have and AMD 4000+ single core CPU, 4gb DDR 400 RAM, onboard nvidia 6510 GPU, but ubuntu 12.10 64bit crawls to do anything via the live cd
[17:49] <frojnd> Hi there :) I have Acer aspire one 722 and apperantly driveres aren't isntalled. How do I install open source radeon drivers from command line?
[17:49] <HTC-DZ> oh the AMD 4000+ chip is 64bit
[17:49] <SpaceRocket> Gnea, i'm talking about 12.10 and the new installer
[17:49] <compdoc> HTC-DZ, pretty old stuff
[17:50] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: i dont want a lot of random programs' settings files cluttering up my home directory. Is /opt open to users or only root also? I need to abstract this to understand where I should put my programs
[17:50] <jpds> SunMoonStar: root.
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, try Lubuntu.  and don't call me "lord" i'm not your god.  :P
[17:50] <SunMoonStar> jpds: where do you think I should put the program?
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, which "game" are you trying to run?
[17:50] <HTC-DZ> i know comp, up till now xp has ben moving slowly but im tired of it and i really like the look of ubuntu so thought id give it a try.
[17:51] <HTC-DZ> meant xp hasnt been moving slowly
[17:51] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: It's called Lantern which is an interface for chess program ICC. It's not in the repositories
[17:51] <HTC-DZ> whats the difference TLOT? ?
[17:51] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, run it from your home directory, that's the only way it can save data correctly.
[17:51] <mikefrett> XP is very old, it would run on a P2.
[17:51] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, or try one of the other chess programs out there.  (not sure what Lantern is though)
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, Lubuntu uses the LXDE interface, its not Unity but its FAR less resource-heavy
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, if you can't run Unity due to old hardware, use Lubuntu
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> (its a different interface though)
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> !lubuntu | HTC-DZ
[17:52] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: my .bashrc seems to have a setting to include /home/bin if it exists. I don't know what 'bin' is in general, i assume it's binaries for custom programs that I developed. Do you think I should put it in there or should I put a separate /home/games directory or something?
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, uh... what?
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, /home/YOURUSERNAMEHERE/bin might be one place to put stuff
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> but /home/bin != valid
[17:53] <beagleburt> G'day everyone from New Zealand. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS about a month ago. I have a single user account & I am the Administrator; BUT I can't access the 'Root' & 'Lost & Found' folders, nor can I use <shutdown -r now> command from Terminal - as I "need to be root". I entered my login password for "su" but -"password authentication failure" is returned? Can anyone help me? t.a.
[17:53] <arnsa> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12367531#post12367531 could anyone help, please?
[17:53] <thesadmafioso> beagleburt you need to use "sudo" not su
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> beagleburt, by "root" folders you mena /root/ ?  lost and found may not need accessing normally.  And use sudo
[17:53] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: I mean, is */bin in general a location I should put programs? or is that only for developers
[17:54] <thesadmafioso> beagleburt: unless you enable a root account. a root account is not enabled by default in ubuntu
[17:54] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, its your system, run it from wherever you see fit.  I run half of my stuff on my servers as non-root, so...
[17:54] <HTC-DZ> i see, do they have LTS versions of lubuntu? what happens if i use an older version of ubuntu, say version 11? i know its not supported anymore but aside from the updates is there any draw backs?
[17:54] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: thanks for the help
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, i usually run stuff out of individual directories for each program out of my home dir.
[17:55] <beagleburt> "thesadmafioso" how do you enable a root account?
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> !root | b
[17:55] <thesadmafioso> beagleburt: instead, in ubuntu the normal user "borrows" root privs to accomplish tasks. there's plenty of information in the official documentations about this issue.
[17:55] <Phryq> what's the most awesome fluxbox theme. Transparency and dark and just awesome looking?
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> bleh.
[17:55] <jpds> !sudo | beagleburt
[17:55] <jpds> !noroot | beagleburt
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> beagleburt, we don't give help in configuring the root account from here.
[17:56] <Gnea> SpaceRocket: this might help, keep in mind that it's 2 pages... you should read both: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/11/03/ubuntu-12-10-installation-and-disk-partitioning-guide/
[17:56] <DamienCassou> hi
[17:57] <HTC-DZ> guys?
[17:57] <nonvediae> helll
[17:57] <beagleburt> Thankyou all who replied - I will take some time to digest & follow your advice - thanks - 'b'ye for now
[17:57] <DamienCassou> I've just installed a package with aptitude and this installed thousands of packages. I guess most of them are only recommended but not dependencies. How can I remove these recommended packages without removing the package I want?
[17:57] <tucemiux> anyone knows if an ATI or nvidia card would play better with ubuntu?
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, lubuntu has the same release cycle of Ubuntu
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, Lubuntu 12.04 is still LTS.
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> same with Kubuntu 12.04, Xubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 12.04
[17:58] <jpds> TheLordOfTime: No, it's not.
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> jpds, you sure?  core is still LTS last i checked.  it shares core.
[17:58] <dcherniv> tucemiux, nvidia
[17:58] <jpds> TheLordOfTime: Only Ubuntu falls under the LTS support fom Canonical.
[17:58] <nonvediae> could you help me with ATI drivers -- i have amd fusion APU with 6550D integrated card -- proprietary driver works but it choppy when i do resize windows
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> jpds, official LTS you mean.
[17:58] <nonvediae> when i run open box it's OK
[17:59] <mikefrett> tucemiux: Nvidia but I use an ATi card and it works just fine. No issues.
[17:59] <tucemiux> dcherniv, you have an nvidia gpu? im thinking about going for the GTX 660, i s it hard to configure ?
[17:59] <cheesecakes> why did the drivers change after an upgrade :/
[17:59] <cheesecakes> the webcam worked after changing driver
[17:59] <cheesecakes> i am wondering what other drivers have changed ?
[17:59] <dcherniv> tucemiux, have ati here not by choice. nvidia is usually pain-free and driver install from nvidia.com is pretty straightforward
[18:00] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, i'm wrong then.  its not "LTS" officially.  won't have the LTS title.
[18:00] <dcherniv> nonvediae, pastebin output of glxinfo
[18:00] <SpaceRocket> thanks Gnea
[18:00] <tucemiux> dcherniv,  im going for an nvidia then, if they work with ubuntu, might as well support the hardware manufacturer that plays nice with your OS
[18:01] <tucemiux> anyone knows what is the status of wayland?
[18:01] <dcherniv> tucemiux, released 1.01