[15:52] <Troldrik> Halp... my lucid box doesn't boot anymore after an apt-get upgrade. Not sure exactly it stalls... I'd say somewhere in the initrd. Never gets to starting the daemons.
[15:52] <rocket16> !lucid | Troldrik
[15:52] <kernel_geek> Troldrik: Try starting without the init, or an older kernel...
[15:52] <llutz> Troldrik: fix it, write a bug report and join #ubuntu+1
[15:53] <vick11_88> kernal_geek:just name the channel....
[15:53] <wertwertgfhjrer> which file determines what window or desktop managers are available during login?
[15:53] <ManDay> ok, what is wrong? Why do themes never work out? Why is it always white text on white background in firefox? why does everylook boxy, everything ugly? I get no warnings, the windows change "as if" a new theme applied, but the new theme doesnt look like i want it!!
[15:54] <jhirley> folks is there a command line to have dkpg automaticly scan and repair installed packages ?
[15:54] <jaypur> hi
[15:54] <tmroly> hey
[15:54] <da65> =chat
[15:54] <kernel_geek> jhirley: apt-get repair ?
[15:54] <hiexpo> !hi
[15:54] <da65> my keyboard is on the blink
[15:55] <kernel_geek> jhirley: I made that up
[15:55] <da65> whats the chat channel?
[15:55] <da65> off topic
[15:55] <istvan> hey, i'v been using sBackup for backing up my system for years, but I just re-installed and i'm wondering if there is a better program I can be using? sBackup seems to have not been changed in ages, and it also is very slow (i have multiple TB of data, and the process monitor shows that it is running at 0% cpu increasing the .tgz .1 gigs every 5 mins)
[15:55] <log|in> anyone here in the efnet ubntu channel that has ops?
[15:55] <hiexpo> !offtopic
[15:55] <da65> ty
[15:55] <log|in> =/
[15:56] <Dekko> hello
[15:57] <bullgard> Why does '~$ wmctrl -a Selector' not raise the window and give focus to the Window Selector applet?
[15:57] <root> hi all
[15:58] <carlosadministra> hola
[15:58] <bullgard> istvan: rsnapshot
[15:59] <iflema> xjkx you get an answer? plug it in and go..... photo cards = no, install hplip to get extra control......
[15:59] <jhirley>  folks is there a command line to have dkpg automaticly scan and repair installed packages ?
[15:59] <iflema> xjkx http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_f4400_series.html
[16:00] <vanexy> ola
[16:00] <bullgard> jhirley: Depends on your file system.
[16:01] <vanexy> ablad en español xf
[16:01] <guntbert> !es | vanexy
[16:01] <vanexy> ik
[16:01] <llutz> jhirley: 'dpkg --configure -a' ?
[16:01] <jhirley> bullgard, what does dpkg have to do with filesystem ?  default is ext3 /
[16:02] <vick11_88> hey i can't join #c channel , they said that it's INVITE ONLY, what to do?
[16:02] <vick11_88> help
[16:02] <Azeotrope> how do i scan for wireless acces points?
[16:02] <llutz> Azeotrope: iwlist s
[16:03] <Azeotrope> llutz: in a loop, please
[16:03] <xjkx> iflema: thanks, all i want is the printer to print, scan, and copy(like i put a page of a book i have in my room and it prints for me), maybe its a problem with the english language but i don't know what they mean by photo cards and "PC initiated copy"
[16:03] <guntbert> vick11_88: its actually ##c
[16:04] <vick11_88> thanks
[16:04] <vick11_88> guntbert: thanks
[16:04] <da65> snobs vic :)
[16:04] <guntbert> Azeotrope: iwlist scan should do what you need (loop it yourself)
[16:04] <guntbert> vick11_88: you're welcome :-)
[16:05] <ManDay> can THIS be true -> DUST theme chosen and looking like THIS: http://s1.directupload.net/images/100410/owivp7j9.png
[16:05] <vick11_88> i'm posting, and it said that it can't be send to channel... guntbert:
[16:05] <guntbert> vick11_88: could be you need to be registered
[16:06] <guntbert> !register | vick11_88
[16:06] <xjkx> iflema: if i got it right, the "pc initiated" thing is the copy feature, which isn't supported :s
[16:06] <vick11_88> ok
[16:07] <darksider> psycho_oreos, hey man. thanks again for your help, my laptop is doin great now. got time for a quick question? not help-related, just curiosity
[16:07] <iflema> xjkx to do a copy youll have to manually press the copy button..... alot of multifunction printers also have slots for flash cards from cameras.... print photos....
[16:08] <iflema> xjkx ya good to go....... thankyou HP
[16:10] <ManDay> nvm
[16:12] <Masteredu> Hello
[16:12] <ManDay> So Dust is no apparently working after getting the 0.3 engine but even after installing the FF theme input boxes are still white text on white background!?!?
[16:14] <Masteredu> has anyone problems with ubuntu?
[16:14] <ManDay> http://s10.directupload.net/images/100410/zwp4cjoc.png
[16:14] <wertwertgfhjrer> how do i disable the graphical login manager to login from terminal using startx command?
[16:15] <Masteredu> wertwertgfhjrer: you can modify the standard runlevel i think
[16:15] <da65> 3 is what you need
[16:17] <Captain_Long> Ziroday in here?
[16:17] <isoman2kx> ubuntuuuuuuuu!
[16:17] <guntbert> !runlevels | wertwertgfhjrer: da65: Masteredu
[16:17] <Captain_Long> Ehh. Never mind. Busy.
[16:18] <da65> kk
[16:18] <iflema> wertwertgfhjrer /etc/default/grub add "text" to the following line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[16:18] <UnderSampled> Hello
[16:19] <isoman2kx> how's it going everyone?
[16:19] <isoman2kx> howdy undersampled
[16:19] <iflema> wertwertgfhjrer then sudo update-grub in a terminal
[16:19] <UnderSampled> isoman2kx: fine. and you?
[16:19] <hiexpo> !hi
[16:19] <UnderSampled> how do I open a port in the firewall?
[16:19] <guntbert> !ot | isoman2kx
[16:20] <wertwertgfhjrer> thx to all
[16:20] <isoman2kx> !ot isoman2kx
[16:20] <isoman2kx> ahh rofl
[16:20] <isoman2kx> you called a bot
[16:20] <isoman2kx> nice
[16:21] <brian> My printer is working in Ubuntu and I want to share it with my Windows 7 computer. I set up smb.conf just like it said on their site and my windows 7 computer can see the printer but it says "cannot connect to printer". Any ideas why?
[16:21] <da65> Undersamp, do that in your router if you have one
[16:21] <UnderSampled> da65: I meant for the local network
[16:22] <UnderSampled> da65: open a port on my computer
[16:22] <isoman2kx> !ot | guntbert
[16:22] <forrest76> Hi guys....only had ubuntu for a day now...very impressed so far. I am running 9.10 and trying to install compiz. Getting this. compizconfig-settings-manager:
[16:22] <forrest76>  Depends: python-compizconfig (>=0.8.2) but it is not installable. Anyone seen that before?
[16:23] <h00k> forrest76: how are you trying to install it?
[16:23] <elnur> Does anyone know a good video converter for Ubuntu?
[16:23] <h00k> elnur: try Handbrake
[16:23] <hiexpo> forrest76, did you update your hardware drivers
[16:23] <forrest76> Hook I tried via command line and via the synapic
[16:24] <guntbert> isoman2kx:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:24] <da65> should I close all programs while 10.04 is installing
[16:24] <forrest76> Hiexpo I have updated all available updates via Update Manager
[16:24] <isoman2kx> not currently guntbert. but i use it frequently so I'd like to idle here if I have one
[16:24] <UnderSampled> forrest76: are you able to enable compiz effects from the theme manager?
[16:25] <forrest76> Lemmie try Under
[16:25] <UnderSampled> *appearance preferences
[16:25] <LFC_fan> were there regression with Radeonhd driver from Beta1 to Beta2?
[16:25] <hiexpo> forrest76, go to system/adm/ hardware drivers and use the propitiatory driver
[16:25] <guntbert> isoman2kx: be welcome :-) - but keep in mind that this channel is for support only :-)
[16:26] <isoman2kx> thank you guntbert. I will keep it in mind
[16:26] <isoman2kx> :)
[16:26] <UnderSampled> hiexpo: just a suggestion, perhaps you should use something other than a forward slash when selecting items in a menu
[16:27] <LFC_fan> like ->
[16:27] <forrest76> I am already using NVIDIA accelerated graphincs driver version 185
[16:27] <UnderSampled> hiexpo: perhaps system->adm->hardware
[16:27] <elnur> h00k, thanks. looks promising
[16:28] <hiexpo> UnderSampled, its the same thing   but ya
[16:28] <h00k> elnur: cool
[16:28] <hiexpo> in the terminal do u use arrows
[16:28] <forrest76> Hiexpo I am already using NVIDIA accelerated graphincs driver version 185
[16:29] <log|in> anyone here use efnet #ubuntu ?
[16:29] <hiexpo> forrest76, you need to update hardware drivers
[16:30] <forrest76> Undersampled: I dont see any option to enable compiz effects from the theme manager
[16:30] <h00k> forrest76: Fire up Update Manager, do a "check" and then install all available updates
[16:30] <darksider> can someone link me to a good starting point for making my own linux distro using ubuntu as a starting point/base? i don't mean the little tweaked-release versions of ubuntu with modified pre-installed apps, i mean a proper distro...i want to start working on it or at least start learning how to do it. it is purely for educational purposes.
[16:30] <UnderSampled> forrest76: there is a tab called "visual effects"
[16:30] <forrest76> Hook I did that last night
[16:30] <UnderSampled> forrest76: are you in gnome or kde?
[16:30] <hiexpo> !offtopic
[16:30] <h00k> forrest76: alright
[16:30] <guntbert> !ot | darksider
[16:31] <forrest76> gnome
[16:31] <darksider> ah
[16:31] <darksider> sorry man
[16:31] <iflema> darksider LFS
[16:31] <darksider> thanks for the chanlink though
[16:31] <h00k> darksider: it's alright, offtopic isn't the best place for that either
[16:31] <llutz> darksider: http://linux.dipin.info/2009/07/customise-or-remaster-ubuntu-904-jaunty.html
[16:31] <h00k> darksider: there's a factoid...let me try to remember it
[16:31] <gtklocker> e? ti paizei edo?
[16:32] <h00k> !remaster | darksider
[16:32] <darksider> thanks h00k
[16:32] <forrest76> Undersampled I have extra selected on that tab.
[16:32] <maginot> !gr | gtklocker
[16:32] <UnderSampled> forrest76: do your windows move like jelly?
[16:32] <darksider> thanksverymuch h00k
[16:32] <darksider> muchappreciated
[16:32] <forrest76> Undersampled: Yeppers
[16:32] <UnderSampled> so then you already have compix
[16:33] <UnderSampled> *compiz
[16:33] <forrest76> I dont see any options though to add stuff and take away stuff.
[16:33] <My-Computer> im running on lubuntu 10.04 with a gnome desktop when i use samba to make a shared folder i only have the linux option and not the windows option what do i need to download to correct this?
[16:33] <darksider> been dreaming of making "my own" Operating System since i started programming at age 9. now im nearly 20 (18th June) and i think its about time i learn to do other things with my programming
[16:33] <llutz> !lucid | My-Computer
[16:33] <gtklocker> wrong channel before, sorry
[16:33] <maginot> darksider, check it out www.linuxfromscratch.org
[16:33] <hiexpo> in order to use copiz to its full capability one must aslso instal simple ccsm
[16:34] <forrest76> lemmie see if I can isntall that Hiexpo
[16:34] <darksider> maginot, thanks man- i remember seeing that site years ago but it was beyond my understanding. but i think now im older i should be capable of doing it or, at least, learning how to
[16:37] <backlol> hi
[16:37] <backlol> il y a des français?
[16:37] <hiexpo> !fr
[16:37] <bullgard5> My computer 3 does not repond to normal keypresses (eg Ctrl+Alt+F1). Using Touchpad I can move the mouse pointer.  But this did not kill X on 3. Is my only option to restart 3?
[16:38] <q_> my computer 666 is dead
[16:38] <forrest76> Hiexpo I dont see an option to install simple-ccsm
[16:38] <hiexpo> forrest76, than you need to right click on desktop click visual effects and select custom
[16:38] <zdene> Does anyone know a FOSS utility to browse a PDF's internal structure? in a tree view or something?
[16:39] <llutz> bullgard5: sudo pkill X
[16:39] <hiexpo> forrest76, let me find it for u
[16:39] <zubin71> hi, is there any way to know what all files are installed when i install mysql?
[16:40] <h00k> forrest76: If you fire up the Ubuntu Software Center, you should be able to find it there
[16:40] <llutz> zubin71: dpkg -L mysql
[16:40] <hiexpo> forrest76,  just go in synaptic and type ccsm
[16:40] <forrest76> I did Hiexpo
[16:41] <greezmun1ey> hiexpo: its called simple-ccsm
[16:41] <hiexpo> not simple-ccsm just ccsm
[16:41] <greezmun1ey> ah?
[16:41] <greezmun1ey> hmm
[16:41] <hiexpo> just type that and it will come up
[16:41] <forrest76> I dont have an option on my desktop for visual theme . On my visual theme tab there is no option for it.
[16:42] <forrest76> Hiexpo it does not come up.
[16:42] <forrest76> ccsm returns nothing.
[16:42] <hiexpo> ok one sec
[16:42] <forrest76> could be that I ahve done all the updates. Seems I am out of sync with everyone.
[16:42] <greezmunkey> l
[16:42] <forrest76> I have wow working though....done several tweaks.
[16:43] <hiexpo> thats weird because its in the repos
[16:43] <darksider> what does the officially-supported/officially-recommended repository amount to, TOTAL [in size] ?
[16:44] <mrwes> darksider, hrmm...I think you can d/l a full repo DVD
[16:44] <zubin71> i have mysql installed. i need it to be "completely" removed and installed again. i just did "apt-get remove --purge mysql-server" but still mysql exists as a daemon. any way i can completely remove it?
[16:45] <hiexpo> click on all than type ccsm it should come up
[16:45] <greezmunkey> llutz: so -L lists all of the install locations?
[16:45] <Presario2500> where can I find some games that don't suck?
[16:45] <forrest76> I am hiexpo....
[16:45] <iflema> forrest76 compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:45] <forrest76> If I only filter csm get csmash
[16:45] <mrwes> darksider: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352460
[16:45] <hiexpo> Presario2500, go to nixie pixels site she has it
[16:45] <llutz> greezmunkey: dpkg -L package        lists contents of package (if package is installed) "man dpkg" for more info
[16:45] <UnderSampled> Presario2500: the software manager
[16:46] <greezmunkey> llutz: looking
[16:46] <darksider> mrwes, really? what is the total size of all the repositories? (i mean all the ones in the standard karmic sources.list [including the one #commented by default]
[16:46] <forrest76> iflema that gives me this error "compizconfig-settings-manager:
[16:46] <forrest76>  Depends: python-compizconfig (>=0.8.2) but it is not installable
[16:46] <forrest76> "
[16:46] <forrest76> Hence my visit to you guys ;)
[16:46] <FloodBot3> forrest76: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:46] <h00k> forrest76: install python-compizconfig then
[16:46] <forrest76> hook its not available
[16:48] <hiexpo> forrest76,  did u enable all your repos yet
[16:48] <mrwes> darksider, actually, here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors  you can d/l the DVD
[16:48] <forrest76> should I maybe add something to my software sources?
[16:48] <darksider> would be pointless to have a fast ubuntu box with ALL the packages from ALL the repositories on it?
[16:48] <darksider> well..pointless, but awesome ?
[16:48] <hiexpo> yes go in there enable them all
[16:48] <FredZeppelin> Hi all seem to be haveing a bit of trouble getting ubantu to load on a toshiba laptop can any one help ? p.s. I am a linyux noob, however am pretty good with dos command line
[16:48] <mrwes> darksider, version 9.10 is 7.9gb
[16:48] <llutz> darksider: just pointless
[16:49] <pjp3rd> hi id like to set up monthly bandwidth quotas for my home network something like http://www.digirain.com/en/trafficquota-overview.html but ive been googling like crazy and i cant find anything like that for ubuntu, any suggestions?
[16:49] <darksider> FredZeppelin, i had a toshiba sattelite A120 (i think it was that model) and ubuntu tends to be just find with toshiba in my opinion
[16:49] <mrwes> darksider, this is the US Mirror sight http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/9.10/release/
[16:49] <h00k> darksider: you can set up your own local mirror, if you'd like
[16:49] <mrwes> darksider, oops 3.9gb
[16:49] <darksider> mrwes, thanks.   llutz, cheers. i just think it would be fun to experience all of the apps. good way to find all the apps that i like/find useful
[16:49] <FredZeppelin> well I have  satellite and keeps coming up with error missing kernal
[16:49] <llutz> darksider: if you want to use your knowledge, why don't you join an existing project and help there? there are more than enough distros available
[16:50] <hiexpo> forrest76,  after u enable them sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:50] <darksider> llutz, well..i don't know if im at THAT standard of programming skill
[16:50] <greezmunkey> pjp3rd: don't know if it will work for you, have you looked at trickle?
[16:50] <RDJ> hello all
[16:50] <darksider> llutz, doing my own modifications and then distro was kinda a self-testing technique
[16:50] <llutz> darksider: there are other ways to help, not only coding
[16:50] <darksider> llutz,  but programming is what i enjoy/am good at
[16:50] <darksider> llutz,  what 'other things' did you have in mind
[16:51] <darksider> llutz, debugging/fixing/patching/etc... ?
[16:51] <forrest76> Hiexpo even the pre release and unsupported?
[16:51] <llutz> darksider: e.g. packaging
[16:51] <hiexpo> i do but thats your choice
[16:51] <pjp3rd> greezmunkey: um that looks like a traffic shaper, im not worried by the speed rather by the monthly usage
[16:51] <darksider> FredZeppelin, sounds like a bad linux installation if the kernel is missing... but im no expert. try asking your question to others
[16:52] <bullgard5> llutz: '~$ sudo pkill X' has no effect.
[16:52] <darksider> llutz,  ah...mmm ive been trying to make my own little script package. currently it backs up using rsync (with a few little modifications like optional exclusions and optional extra folders to backup other than /home/user/) and compresses it in a .tgz
[16:53] <greezmunkey> pjp3rd: about the only way you could really do that with any os would involve using your server as a network access proxy of some sort...
[16:53] <zubin71> llutz, is there any way i can restore a database without logging in; if i am the root?
[16:53] <FredZeppelin> darksider I just downloaded it from the ubantu site. also i tried a knoppix version and it would not boot either. although both boot fine on my acer desktop
[16:54] <BluesKaj-Laptop> it's not an install without a kernel
[16:54] <darksider> FredZeppelin, sorry dude but that's beyond my understanding...im currently just trying to START learning about HOW linux works.
[16:54] <darksider> but what BluesKaj-Laptop has just said is what i figured
[16:54] <darksider> dodgy installation
[16:54] <darksider> FredZeppelin, can you boot from LiveCD on your TOSHIBA laptop?
[16:54] <FredZeppelin> ahh ok thanks darkside
[16:54] <pjp3rd> greezmunkey, k im prepeared to pass all traffic through my server, but im not sure how im supposed to enforce the limits?
[16:54] <llutz> zubin71: mysqladmin?
[16:55] <FredZeppelin> never tried it. I only want to be able to get on the HDD so I can save buddies files. then reinstall winders for him
[16:56] <FredZeppelin> was working fine yesterday till windows suddenly and mystryiously put a and admin password on repair
[16:56] <BluesKaj-Laptop> darksider, FredZeppelin even windows uses a kernel
[16:56] <forrest76> Fred you dont have to install on the hdd just boot from the dvd and use a thumb/external drive to save his files.
[16:57] <zubin71> llutz, thnkx!
[16:57] <jbendotnet> hi
[16:57] <greezmunkey> pjp3rd: hmm probably squid could do it, I'm looking.
[16:57] <hiexpo> !hi
[16:57] <zubin71> jbendotnet, hey!
[16:57] <jbendotnet> trying to upgrade ubuntu 9.10 (server) and keep getting
[16:57] <jbendotnet> Preconfiguring packages ...
[16:57] <jbendotnet> (Reading database ... 25%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[16:57] <jbendotnet>  files list file for package `linux-libc-dev' contains empty filename
[16:57] <jbendotnet> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[16:57] <FloodBot3> jbendotnet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:57] <hiexpo> !flood
[16:57] <FredZeppelin> but I can't get either linux operating system to boot period.
[16:57] <jbendotnet> woops, trying to upgrade and keep getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/412172/
[16:58] <FredZeppelin> so just for claification the kernal is in the OS. correct?
[16:58] <overmind> hiexpo: FloodBot told him, no needed of !flood command
[16:58] <UnderSampled> !kernel | FredZeppelin
[16:58] <hiexpo> lol
[16:58] <abu1230> hi I want to back from ubuntu 10.04 to 9.10 what I do
[16:58] <forrest76> Fred did you enable boot from CD/DVD rom in the bios of your buddys windows puter through the bios?
[16:59] <kernel_geek> abu1230: Reinstall?
[16:59] <h00k> abu1230: you'll have to reinstall 9.10
[16:59] <FredZeppelin> no no  good gawd no i don't want to compile my own i want his system to run again lol.
[16:59] <h00k> abu1230: there's no 'rollback'
[16:59] <overmind> abu1230: We don't support that, it is very dangeorus, you can lose all data
[16:59] <FredZeppelin> ok so then one fix maybe to redownload ubantu and try again?
[16:59] <pjp3rd> greezmunkey, thanks my first thoughts were to use quid, however wouldnt that only be for web traffic? what about if ppl use other protocols like bittorrent?
[16:59] <abu1230> can I install 9.10 with out lose data
[17:00] <hiexpo> back to the ole drawing board  :)
[17:00] <h00k> abu1230: if your /home is on a separate partition, sure
[17:00] <FredZeppelin> oh ya that was the easy part.
[17:00] <h00k> !home | abu1230
[17:00] <kernel_geek> abu1230: Backup!
[17:00] <UnderSampled> abu1230: you could backup your data and reinstall fresh
[17:01] <hiexpo> forrest76,  did ya getterrockin?
[17:01] <FredZeppelin> ya thats what i told him to do before. last week he had MBR fault i fix that told him to back up . yesterday he came with system config problem. and he never backed up.
[17:01] <greezmunkey> pjp3rd: according to their site, squid will deal with multiple protocols.
[17:03] <emergion> helllo all
[17:03] <greezmunkey> pjp3rd: check this out: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Log-Analyzers/Squid-Traffic-Counter-35736.shtml
[17:03] <Chris___> I have just installed ubuntu 9.10 on a dell dimension 3000, video is set on 640 x480.  It has integrated graphics, so I changed bios setting to 8mb and got other resolution options other than 640 x 480.  The problem is that I cannot click the ok button due to resolution on my display gui.  is there some way to change the resolution in the config script?
[17:03] <emergion> could someone please give me some advice on Jackd? I have it working but when I start it my system seems to lose sound I cannot play mp3s anymore etc ?
[17:04] <emergion> I want to use it for rosegarden and midi capabilities
[17:04] <axel781> hello
[17:06] <UnderSampled> emergion: have you tried on #jack?
[17:06] <axplayer> heya all, quick question. I know that since my memory should be 512MB, but Ubuntu says its 496MB, which is because of my Videocard or some other hardware might be occupying the remaining 16MB. if a software says I require 512MB of memory minimum, the program doesn't work? because I have 496? has anyone else had this issue? thank you
[17:06] <emergion> I will
[17:06] <emergion> Still though I think it has to do with my systems pulseaudio / gnome config
[17:06] <SwedeMike> axplayer: most likely this won't cause any issue.
[17:07] <pjp3rd> greezmunkey: looks good even though cant find debian package for ubuntu :-( but im still not sure how its supposed to help for other protocols besides www
[17:07] <iflema> Chris___ hold alt + left click anywhere on the window to move it around (up)
[17:08] <lanlan> 有人吗
[17:08] <h00k> !Chinese | lanlan
[17:08] <axplayer> so SwedeMike. so basically the software shouldn't complain eh?
[17:08] <greezmunkey> pjp3rd: can't help you there, but I imagine there are forums for that. Perhaps setting up a test server to bang around on will answer some of your questions! :)
[17:08] <h00k> I'm hping I got that right.
[17:08] <Chris___> iflema thanks, I will try it right now
[17:08] <SwedeMike> axplayer: most likely it'll work fine. it's a recommendation, it can use swap file instead, your computer might be slower due to this but it'll most likely work.
[17:09] <h00k> pjp3rd: try #ubuntu-server also
[17:09] <FredZeppelin> umm I think I am right in this. If I am getting the error msg. "invalid or corrupt Kernel image" I should just srap the cd . and burn another copy?
[17:09] <axplayer> SwedeMike, thanks man. appreciated.
[17:09] <h00k> !md5sum | FredZeppelin
[17:09] <FredZeppelin> srap = scrap
[17:10] <youssef> Good afternoon. I have installed Ubuntu with wubi. When I choose to boot on Ubuntu. I get a "grub>" prompt and it does nothing. There are a lot of option available: But with "boot" it does not find any kernel. It is a fresh install from a few minutes ago. Can someone help me?
[17:10] <pjp3rd> greezmunkey, i mean its a good start, that the sort of thing i was looking for just i dont see why it has to be done through a proxy if all the traffic is going through my box anyhow
[17:10] <Chris___> iflema thanks that took care of the problem
[17:10] <UnderSampled> youssef: what are your options?
[17:11] <pjp3rd> h00k, thanks
[17:11] <greezmunkey> pjp3rd: If you want to control the traffic, you have to have control of it, make sense?
[17:11] <greezmunkey> pjp3rd: hense the proxy
[17:11] <youssef> UnderSampled: I did not use any option (I am not a computer expert) I expected grub to boot automatically
[17:12] <UnderSampled> youssef: I was asking what it told you were the options
[17:12] <UnderSampled> so I might be able to help you pick
[17:12] <arjun> .
[17:12] <arjun> can someone recommend a advanced c++ tutorial for me, so that i too can take part in oss development. im quite comfortable with the basics
[17:12] <pjp3rd> greezmunkey, if everything is going through my server that means i have control of it
[17:12] <hiexpo> !pm
[17:13] <youssef> UnderSampled:  I had stub like "boot" and with tab it allows me to access "/bin", "/sbin", etc
[17:13] <UnderSampled> youssef: ok
[17:13] <greezmunkey> pjp, not really, I mean you can place a firewall, and tweak that, but a simple firewall isn't going to check a userdatabase and verify traffic limits, right?
[17:14] <UnderSampled> youssef: did anything pop up before you got there?
[17:14] <UnderSampled> (like a list of possible OSes?
[17:14] <iFire> is there a page about how www-data works?
[17:15] <DDAZZA0> Hello, Why can't I watch DVDs? How can I watch dvds on ubuntu?
[17:15] <greezmunkey> pjp3rd: anyway, good luck with that - I have to go.
[17:15] <h00k> !dvd | DDAZZA0
[17:15] <iFire> I'm trying to use nginx and I'm getting permission denied errors
[17:15] <pjp3rd> greezmunkey, yip but squid just seems like an overkill to me, and a headache cus i have to worry about making sure they only use squid as well as the squid works for everything they need
[17:15] <GNU\colossus> iFire: what do you mean? www-data is Debian's standard user (and group) for HTTP server related files.
[17:15] <arjun> can someone recommend an "advanced c++ tutorial" for me, so that i can take part in oss development . im quite comfortable with the basics.
[17:15] <iFire> well I manually created the web dirs
[17:15] <youssef> UnderSampled: No I get first a kind of Windows dual screen with three option (Windows, Ubuntu, Memory check) when I choose Ubuntu, I get a grub prompt instead of directly booting on Ubuntu
[17:15] <iFire> so the permissions are wrong somehow
[17:16] <iFire> do I have to add my user to the www-data group?
[17:16] <axplayer> hey, random question, is you mess around with a lot of the commands, as in 'just trying stuff out' how possible is it to mess everything up and breaking everything? should a new linux user be careful with messing around or what? any opinions, thoughts?
[17:16] <llutz> arjun: http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html
[17:16] <iFire> right now /home/username is drwxrwx---   7 me me
[17:16] <BlubbTec> axplayer: you can always use a live cd
[17:16] <UnderSampled> youssef: what happens if you do memory check?
[17:17] <axplayer> so you can break stuff just by being: hey,t hat looks like a fun command...../execute command .......blue screen of the penguin, .....ahh, crap.
[17:18] <iFire> GNU\colossus what should I do some that my www-data user can access my public_html and yet the owner/group is still me:me
[17:18] <iFire> hmm
[17:18] <arjun> llutz: ive already gone through most of the articles there i need to learn to write system programs
[17:18] <youssef> UnderSampled: I did not try, I assume it does a Ram check. Since it is quite new laptop (less than three months) and did not have any problem under Windows, I did not try. Should I?
[17:18] <iFire> I think apache su to the user right?
[17:18] <forrest76> Well I give up on compiz config menu. Thanks for trying guys. Reckon the system is pretty enough without it.
[17:19] <forrest76> Do we have a channel for chewing the fat with other Ubuntu users?
[17:19] <llutz> arjun: its offtopic here, maybe you'll find better ideas in c++-channels           /msg alis list *c++*
[17:19] <guntbert> axplayer: as long as you don't execute the commands "as root" you can do no damage to the system - your personal data might be at risk though
[17:20] <iFire> personal data is important ;)
[17:20] <UnderSampled> youssef:  It is included in Ubuntu
[17:20] <GNU\colossus> iFire: chmod it so that "others" can read/execute the directory
[17:20] <SparkyFlary> How strong should a web server password be?
[17:20] <axplayer> ahh, nice, and so maybe the logical thing would be to create a separate account then, eh?
[17:20] <iFire> SparkyFlary use a ssh key and a password
[17:20] <iFire> :)
[17:20] <iFire> it'll be strong enough
[17:21] <UnderSampled> youssef: so using it might be able to test grub
[17:21] <SparkyFlary> i want something that's strong and easy to remember
[17:21] <iFire> SparkyFlary use apg
[17:21] <h00k> SparkyFlary: how important is the data on it?
[17:21] <youssef> UnderSampled:  should I look for something else after my reboot?
[17:21] <iFire> SparkyFlary http://www.adel.nursat.kz/apg/
[17:21] <UnderSampled> well, after the memory test, it should reboot
[17:22] <SparkyFlary> not very im just messing around with stuff
[17:22] <iFire> SparkyFlary apt-get install apg
[17:22] <youssef> UnderSampled thanks. See you
[17:22] <DDAZZA0> What is the best way to transfer files between 2 networked home pcs? (ssh?)
[17:22] <iFire> ddAZZA is windows a requirement?
[17:22] <DDAZZA0> no both running ubuntu
[17:22] <iFire> if not just use ssh and its sftp
[17:23] <SparkyFlary> ok what if i had some very secret data? like government type of stuff?
[17:23] <iFire> ddAZZA do you want it to be mountable?
[17:23] <h00k> SparkyFlary: then you're going to want a stronger password.
[17:23] <iFire> i.e. a network drive
[17:23] <iFire> SparkyFlary as I said a crypto key and a passpharse
[17:23] <DDAZZA0> Yea that would be usful
[17:23] <jason201> has anyone here used MusicBrainz for metadata tagging?
[17:23] <iFire> SparkyFlary and if you want to get fancy, store the key on the smartcard
[17:24] <iFire> jason201 it mis-tags enough that I don't use it
[17:24] <xjkx> i installed ndiswrapper-common because there was no ~-utils, but when i run ndiswrapper it says i need util Error: ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 not installed!
[17:24] <jason201> any suggestions?
[17:24] <iFire> jason201 read above
[17:25] <xjkx> fixed, nevermind
[17:25] <jason201> thank you, what I meant was do you suggest anything else
[17:25] <SparkyFlary> iFire would it still be safe to run the website from home on a computer?
[17:25] <randomusr_> hello
[17:25] <iFire> SparkyFlary well technically your server in a farm is "safer"
[17:25] <iFire> physically
[17:25] <UnderSampled> !hi randomusr_
[17:26] <guntbert> SparkyFlary: please take that hypothetical discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:26] <iFire> but if it's close you can destroy the home server
[17:26] <UnderSampled> !hi | randomusr_
[17:26] <randomusr_> is there some gui for central management of system wide policies?
[17:26] <Ree_> hello
[17:27] <UnderSampled> !hi | Ree_
[17:27] <Ree_> any laptop with ATI GPUs users here?
[17:27] <UnderSampled> !ati | ree
[17:27] <UnderSampled> !ati | Ree_
[17:27] <SparkyFlary> Ree_ i think i have ATI
[17:27] <randomusr_> Ree, what are you trying to do or what would you like to know?
[17:28] <b_> need help with wine
[17:28] <rocket16> I have made a Tic Tac Toe game using Java, and have compiled it. Now, I want to make an Installer for Ubuntu, which will automatically add the entry of game to the Applications-Games menu. How may I do it?
[17:28] <UnderSampled> Ree_: you can also use #ati for help
[17:28] <randomusr_> wine = ick
[17:28] <hiexpo> !wine
[17:28] <dactyl> ok, so somebody changed the system language on my computer to arabic to be funny, and now I can't get figure out how to make it go back to english. luckily, I have a guest account that is still in english, but I can't find the relevant menu to change languages.
[17:29] <Ree_> the thing is that after a clean 9.10 install I get black screen upon first boot
[17:29] <norbi905> Hello, I'm trying to use Brasero to burn an iso from a terminal.  I don't know what the application keyword is to launch the software from the terminal.  I know there was a way of searching keywords "apropo"? Or something similar, can someone remind me what it is please. Thank you.
[17:29] <Ree_> i see gru loading, the white ubuntu logo and then black screen
[17:29] <dactyl> haha, I fail at english
[17:29] <Ree_> *grub
[17:29] <b_> anybody know why wine is not working for starcraft??
[17:29] <xangua> dactyl: you can select language from the login screen
[17:30] <randomusr_> Ree_, how did you install/enable your ATI drivers?
[17:30] <Ree_> I did not
[17:30] <UnderSampled> b_: http://appdb.winehq.org
[17:30] <dactyl> xangua: and that will make all my menu hierarchy in english again?
[17:30] <xangua> yes
[17:30] <Ree_> i use the default driver Ubuntu picks for me
[17:30] <Shvonder> Waht for is LDAP used? I think NIS needs looking up computers, LDAP needs looking up shares and NFS needs for connecting computers. Am I right?
[17:30] <dactyl> i'll give that a shot
[17:30] <Ree_> the problem happens on first boot AFTER a clean install
[17:31] <b_> UnderSampled, no i tried to uninstall starcraft n reinstall it .. now its not doing either
[17:31] <Ree_> if I forecefully reboot, it seems to boot fine
[17:32] <SuperMiguel> any electric engineer student using ubuntu?
[17:32] <h00k> !any | SuperMiguel
[17:32] <randomusr_> Ree_, maybe attempt the Alternative cd
[17:32] <arjun> what is wrong "##c++ :Cannot send to channel"
[17:32] <h00k> !ask | SuperMiguel
[17:32] <UnderSampled> b_: this channel is not for help with wine. You can always try #winehq
[17:32] <Ree_> that's exactly what I did -  I used the DVD to install in text mode
[17:32] <randomusr_> Ree_, also, you may want to scan your hdd for errors
[17:32] <Ree_> it's clean
[17:33] <guntbert> !who | Ree_
[17:33] <Ree_> scanned with seatools
[17:33] <arjun> what is wrong "##c++ :Cannot send to channel"
[17:33] <Ree_> ok, will do
[17:33] <randomusr_> Ree_, what's the model of your laptop?
[17:33] <Ree_> i'm no IRC user :)
[17:33] <arjun> what is wrong i cant post to the channel "##c++ :Cannot send to channel"
[17:33] <randomusr_> Ree_, can you paste the output of "lspci -l" on pastebin? and give me the link
[17:34] <SuperMiguel> h00k, are you one?
[17:34] <Ree_> randomusr_: Asus F5RL, ATI 1100 xpress
[17:34] <bullgard5> My computer 3 does not repond to normal keypresses (eg Ctrl+Alt+F1). Using Touchpad I can move the mouse pointer.  But this did not kill X on 3. Is my only option to restart 3?
[17:34] <h00k> SuperMiguel: just ask your question, perhaps someone else can help
[17:34] <randomusr_> Ree_, what's version of ubuntu did you install?
[17:34] <The_Serpent> how do i uninstall ubuntu and keep windows?
[17:34] <Ree_> randomusr_: 9.10
[17:34] <Ree_> randomusr_:  i386
[17:34] <ZykoticK9> bullgard5, "sudo service gdm restart" will restart Xorg for you
[17:35] <ZykoticK9> bullgard5, assuming karmic
[17:35] <randomusr_> Ree_, please "lspci -l" and pastebin that output
[17:35] <Ree_> randomusr_: will do a bit later, as i'm currently reinstalling 9.10 yet again
[17:35] <SuperMiguel> h00k, that was my question if any Electric engineer student is using ubuntu...
[17:35] <randomusr_> Ree_, there's not much to do then if you're re-installing
[17:35] <king11> how do you convert a bin file into a tar.gz file
[17:36] <Ree_> randomusr_: one important thing probably: during the several clean installs that I did, there was a single case when ubuntu booted just fine the first time
[17:36] <randomusr_> Ree_, why ask for help when you trashed the image and started fresh? if it continues, let us know
[17:36] <Ree_> randomusr_: however that happened only once out of maybe 5 times
[17:36] <ZykoticK9> king11, if it's a single file you don't need tar - just gz the file
[17:36] <rm200910> king11: tar cfz <destination>.tar.gz <bin file>
[17:37] <king11> thanks, will try right now
[17:37] <bullgard5> ZykoticK9: It is Karmic. But it responds: "restart: Unknown instance: ."
[17:37] <randomusr_> Ree_, i fear that if you keep hitting your head on the wall, you will eventually pass out
[17:37] <guntbert> SuperMiguel: how is this an ubuntu support question?
[17:37] <Ree_> randomusr_: didn't get you? i'm not hitting anything, just testing out
[17:38] <SuperMiguel> guntbert, ... forget it..
[17:38] <randomusr_> Ree_, but you have trouble booting no?
[17:38] <Ree_> randomusr_: yes, but only the first time after the install
[17:38] <Ree_> randomusr_: subsequent rboots seem to be fine
[17:38] <randomusr_> Ree_, and it works fine after that?
[17:38] <crazybyte> hello! what happened with the sun-java6-doc package on lucid lynx? I'm trying to upgrade it and the only option available is to remove it. I did some googling but I couldn't find any explanation why is the package missing. Could somebody enlighten me about this? Thank you!
[17:39] <randomusr_> Ree_, then what's the problem? it seems to be self correcting
[17:39] <Ree_> randomusr_: yes, but that doesn't mean it won't come up later. besides, what's the deal with the first time then? it shouldn't happen
[17:39] <norbi905> I'm trying to mount a USB stick on ubuntu 9.10.  I create a directory in /media/usb .  I see device /dev/sdb which I think is my usb.  What arguments do I pass to mount /dev/sdb /media/usb?  For some reason it's not getting auto-mounted :(
[17:39] <amos> i have a problem with blackra1n under virtualbox .. it detects the iphone but after the iphone reboots it's not recognized any more .. any ideas?
[17:40] <randomusr_> Ree_, sometimes in life we don't have all of the answers. if things work then don't attempt to fix
[17:41] <randomusr_> !mount
[17:41] <Ree_> randomusr_: i don't call leaving a user with a black screen on first boot as working
[17:41] <randomusr_> !mount | norbi905
[17:41] <LITESTER_> norbi905 check dmesg to see if there are messages about your usb when you plug it in
[17:41] <brontosaurusrex> how do i box-select in gedit?
[17:41] <hh> speak
[17:41] <variebuntux> aha??
[17:42] <randomusr_> Ree_, it is likely a configuration issue with grub or x.org - when booting the 2nd time it may correct itself
[17:43] <tensor-01> :-)
[17:43] <Soloppgang> chat norge
[17:43] <Soloppgang> hei
[17:43] <randomusr_> Ree_, without seeing your system logs and x.org, /boot/grub/grub.cfg there's not much anyone can do to help
[17:43] <king11> rm200910: it is not working
[17:43] <Soloppgang> hei
[17:43] <randomusr_> Ree_, in other words, more detail is needed before someone can assist you
[17:44] <randomusr_> is there some gui for central management of system wide policies?
[17:44] <king11> rm200910: I tried to type exactly what you told me but I keep getting syntax error
[17:44] <norbi905> LITESTER_, dmesg shows FAT:invalid media value(0x00) VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdb.
[17:44] <norbi905> LITESTER_, should I format?
[17:44] <Ree_> randomusr_: yeah, i understand, however, i thought someone would have a few ready-made suggestions to try as the "black screen" seems to be a common problem
[17:44] <iFire> GNU\colossus there's no problem with add "me" to the group www-data right?
[17:44] <bullgard5> My computer 3 does not repond to normal keypresses (eg Ctrl+Alt+F1). Using Touchpad I can move the mouse pointer.  But this did not kill X on 3. Is my only option to restart 3?
[17:45] <iFire> my server is nginx and it uses that user
[17:45] <Soloppgang> hei
[17:45] <randomusr_> Ree_, as I have said, we need more detail. you could also google "black screen" ubuntu. this is usually an x.org problem
[17:45] <ikonia> bullgard5: why do you keepsaying 3 randomly in your typing ?
[17:45] <Shvonder> Is any way to turn a octave which was built from sources in a virtual application? I want using the octave on my netbook
[17:45] <ikonia> bullgard5: if killing X does not work, it normally suggests the tty it's running has hung, so a restart would be the best thing
[17:46] <pinoyoragon> Hi. What might be the reason why shadow info from my server doesnt show when i invoke "getent shadow", but "getent passwd" shows the /etc/passwd of my server.
[17:46] <theadmin> ikonia: Maybe he's running X on third virtual terminal
[17:46] <king11> how do you convert emerald file into a tar.gz file
[17:46] <randomusr_> Ree_,  or a mis-configured kernel or video driver
[17:46] <marek__> siema
[17:46] <bullgard5> ikonia: hm.
[17:46] <theadmin> king11: Emerald themes are old stuff, you don't want em :/
[17:47] <andrew_l> hey guys, can anyone help? i just installed 9.10 yestrrday, and after updating everything, i cant mount the dvd drive. Any ideas?
[17:47] <Ree_> randomusr_: why would anything get misconfigured when i haven't touched anything?
[17:47] <andrew_l> theres a dvd in it, and the light in the side goes on and off, but i can't mount it
[17:47] <theadmin> andrew_l: even manually?
[17:48] <randomusr_> Ree_, something is not getting set correctly when you install. I can't be any more clear than that
[17:48] <andrew_l> correst theadmin
[17:48] <theadmin> hm, weird...
[17:48] <king11> theadmin: yeah but that was what was offered on the genome site with the theme
[17:48] <king11> does anyone know of a site where I can get compiz only themes
[17:48] <GNU\colossus> iFire: there isn't, but it won't solve the problem of allowing your webserver to access data in/beneath your ~
[17:48] <Ree_> randomusr_: ok, just another bug
[17:48] <randomusr_> Ree_, please inform the channel when you're facing the problem again and want to troubleshoot that specific problem
[17:48] <iFire> GNU\colossus well I sued into www-data and it let me read the data
[17:49] <randomusr_> Ree_, it's not a bug, seems to be user error
[17:49] <andrew_l> it shows up under 'computer' but when i click on it it says cd/..../ or whatever doesnt exist
[17:49] <Ree_> randomusr_: will provide more detail when the install completes
[17:49] <Ree_> randomusr_: user error? are you kiddibng?
[17:49] <andrew_l> unable to mount cd0, mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[17:49] <Shvonder> Does someone know if any way be to make one application on ubuntu-desktop be virtual application? Or this is impossible?
[17:49] <Ree_> randomusr_: i simply installed Ubuntu, didn't touch anything
[17:50] <Ree_> randomusr_: how is it use4r error?
[17:50] <grobda24> king11, http://gnome-look.org/
[17:50] <theadmin> Shvonder: "virtual application"?
[17:50] <king11> grobda24: yeah that is where I was and they had emerald themes up but I can't install an emerald theme b/c I think it is old
[17:51] <randomusr_> Is anyone aware of a gui tool for managing system policies? Does webmin have enough modules to cover most things?
[17:51] <DonSlice> Hey. I just logged into my 9.10 server and it's saying it's 10.04. I didn't do a dist-upgrade, just normal upgrade.
[17:51] <DonSlice> ...and i just realized I have lucid repos listed.
[17:51] <DonSlice> ffuuuu
[17:52] <ZykoticK9> !webmin > randomusr_
[17:52] <king11> grobda24: I even clicked on compiz theme link and what was offered was emerald themes
[17:52] <ZykoticK9> !emerald > king11
[17:52] <ChogyDan> DonSlice: did you ever add a -d to the upgrade command?
[17:52] <DonSlice> ChogyDan: Nope.
[17:52] <ikonia> he has lucid repo's listed, that's the problem
[17:52] <DonSlice> ChogyDan: But i did add lucid repos so I could get the newest version of weechat-curses.
[17:52] <Shvonder> theadmin: I want to use it (application) on my netbook, but I don't want unstall it. virtual application I mean that it can be use like through terminal or like in Ulteo (with webbrowser)
[17:52] <DonSlice> Last time I did an upgrade, it must have upgraded.
[17:52] <DonSlice> http://pastie.org/912968
[17:52] <ChogyDan> ya
[17:52] <gador|aw> [18:41] <gador> http://www.perspektywy.pl/konkursy/galaktyka/planeta.php?numerPlanety=2
[17:52] <gador|aw> [18:42] <gador> 4 from the left on top
[17:52] <gador|aw> [18:42] <gador> dobr
[17:52] <gador|aw> [18:42] <gador> click 'popieram'
[17:52] <FloodBot3> gador|aw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:52] <DonSlice> My login is messed up, too.
[17:53] <ikonia> DonSlice: don't need to see it, we know th eproblem
[17:53] <randomusr_> ZykoticK9, is there something similar that will allow easy gui front to setting user and machine policies?
[17:53] <DonSlice> ikonia: Could you at least advise me on how to clean that up?
[17:53] <ikonia> DonSlice: clean install
[17:53] <DonSlice> fuu
[17:53] <ZykoticK9> randomusr_, no idea (but webmin isn't a good idea)
[17:53] <ikonia> DonSlice: mixing repos is bad, and upgrading by changing the repo's in the sources.list is bad
[17:53] <theadmin> Shvonder: I think this isn't possible with most packages, unfortunately
[17:53] <ojii> I tried to install postgresql on ubuntu 8.04 (using apt-get install postgresql-common) but I can't start the server, running `sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start` does not do anything, anyone know what went wrong here?
[17:53] <king11> ZykoticK9: I know emerald is old but that is what the genome look site is offering as compiz themes, I don't get it
[17:54] <DonSlice> ikonia: Yeah, I forgot I had lucid in there when upgrading.
[17:54] <randomusr_> ZykoticK9, webmin used to the greatest.... oh well
[17:54] <ikonia> ojii: how do you know it's not running
[17:54] <ikonia> DonSlice: mixing repo's is bad in the first place
[17:54] <DonSlice> ikonia: I only did it for weechat-curses./
[17:54]  * DonSlice shrugs.
[17:54] <randomusr_> ZykoticK9, have you had experience with centeris likewise?
[17:54] <ojii> ikonia: ps aux | grep ^postgres is empty, and i can't connect to the server either
[17:54] <ikonia> DonSlice: still bad
[17:54] <DonSlice> yet soo goooood
[17:55] <ikonia> ojii: walk through the init script manually, launch it manually to see if it can run or if there is a problem
[17:55] <ChogyDan> DonSlice: next time, you should just download the deb from the lucid repos, instead of adding the whole repo to apt
[17:55] <edvinas> Hi, I have finished installing 9.10 but I cannot seem to be able to adjust my screen resolution higher than 1280x800. The graphics is Intel 950GM. Can anyone give some tips on how to adjust it?
[17:55] <grobda24> king11, I see compiz themes but Emerald is often used with Compiz
[17:55] <DonSlice> ChogyDan: I did, but it needed a lot of prereqs
[17:56] <DonSlice> Well, thanks for the help guys. Time to re-install. :/
[17:56] <Shvonder> theadmin: I've seen on a web site that octave works in such way
[17:57] <king11> grobda24: I am looking through them right now but I think the site should have the ones that are tar.gz file seperate from the emerald ones
[17:57] <randomusr_> <----- doesn't understand why some folks choose to do things the hard way
[17:58] <ojii> ikonia: the point is that when I run the init.d script it doesn't give me any output (no errors either)
[17:58] <ikonia> ojii: I understand that, so I said manually walk through the init script, or manually start postgres to see if it gives you an error
[17:58] <ojii> ikonia: what do you mean by manually walk through it?
[17:59] <ojii> and how would I manually start it?
[17:59] <ikonia> ojii: step by step use the start up process of the init script
[17:59] <ikonia> ojii: there is documentation on the postgress web page about manually launching postgres also
[17:59] <fliff> Can anyone help me achieve this? Looking to have an Ubuntu box set up where I can then have multiple users remote in to their own GNOME session without anything being displayed on the main machine. Is there a simple solution for this?
[18:00] <king11> does anyone know how to change the login screen theme on 9.10
[18:01] <ikonia> king11: gdm themes are not supported in 9.10
[18:01] <ChogyDan> fliff: like thing clients?
[18:01] <ChogyDan> *thin clients
[18:01] <king11> ikonia: is there anyway I could get around that problem of not being supported or is it a no
[18:01] <licquor> good afternoon i  need  elp  with  my  flash player for facebook please help me
[18:01] <steffan> !ops
[18:02] <ikonia> steffan: whatr ?
[18:02] <steffan> ikonia: can you sort that out?
[18:02] <ikonia> steffan: sort what out ?
[18:02] <steffan> ikonia: the 9 join/quit flood that was happening
[18:02] <Zer0-1> Hello
[18:02] <ikonia> steffan: the ones which appear to have stopped ?
[18:02] <Garwall> Hello
[18:03] <Garwall> Nobody here speak french ?
[18:03] <licquor> any facebook gamers in here
[18:03] <steffan> ikonia: yes
[18:03] <ikonia> !fr | Garwall
[18:03] <licquor> i  need some help please
[18:03] <ikonia> !offtopic | licquor
[18:03] <ntsasng> http://c.upanh.com/upload/4/970/CS0.9100834_1_1.png
[18:03] <ntsasng> help me
[18:03] <ntsasng> http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1092/screenshotnt.png
[18:03] <ntsasng> MySQL not run
[18:04] <Zer0-1> Hello
[18:04] <halim> hi guys, i have a problem with samba, i deleted the configuration folder (/etc/samba) and now, even after reinstall, they aren't being created, i deleted them because i needet the original config files
[18:04] <ikonia> ntsasng: xammp is not supported as it's a standalone platform, you should have used the LAMP stack
[18:04] <Zer0-1> There is someone here?
[18:04] <licquor> how do  i use that
[18:04] <licquor> im   new to all this
[18:04] <ntsasng> ikonia:take me link download :)
[18:04] <ChogyDan> licquor: does youtube work?
[18:04] <steffan> ikonia: sorry :)
[18:04] <ikonia> ntsasng: no - you've installed xaamp
[18:05] <licquor> havent tried it  but  i  will and can  thanks
[18:05] <ntsasng> ikonia: i removed it
[18:05] <ikonia> ntsasng: how ?
[18:05] <licquor> do  u mean  in general or did i  try it
[18:05] <ChogyDan> licquor: I mean you
[18:05] <ntsasng> rm -rf /opt/lampp
[18:05] <ntsasng> ikonia: rm -rf /opt/lampp
[18:05] <ikonia> !lamp | ntsasng
[18:06] <licquor> i didnt go there for  help  no  should i
[18:06] <ChogyDan> licquor: yes, goto youtube.com and see if you can watch videos
[18:06] <halim> i have a problem with samba, i deleted the configuration folder (/etc/samba) and now, even after reinstall, they aren't being created, i deleted them because i needet the original config files
[18:07] <licquor> ok  thanks  i will try that
[18:07] <licquor>   not  i be back  lol
[18:07] <steffan> ikonia: do ubottu factoids submitted by users generally get accepted? I've submitted two as of late - nagios and weechat - and neither seem to be there
[18:07] <ikonia> steffan: if they are good an needed, they do
[18:08] <ikonia> steffan: sometimes they take a little while while discussed
[18:08] <youssef> Hello. I have installed Ubuntu with wubi and when trying to boot on Ubuntu I get a "grub>" prompt. Some commands are available such as badram, boot, cpuid, etc. But no kernel seems to be available. Installing and reinstalling wubi today several times did not help, neither a Windows defragmantation and memory test. Can somone help me?
[18:08] <halim> is there a way of getting the samba configuration files back (the standard configuration), reinstalling doesn't help, please help me
[18:08] <steffan> ikonia: I see, nagios and weechat seem to be discussed a lot in here lately, so it seemed logical to submit them - thanks for the info.
[18:09] <ntsasng> ikonia: that is difficult to install and config it
[18:09] <ntsasng> :(
[18:09] <steffan> halim: if you are using 'remove', configuration files are not erased. 'purge' does that
[18:09] <ikonia> ntsasng: it's not, but if you find that too hard don't use it
[18:10] <bashi> Hello, I'm having problems with my Ubuntu 9.10 installation. Every time I try to install a package I get the message "Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?", and then an error after striking the "Enter" key
[18:10] <halim> steffan: i did purge too, but it didn't remove the config files in /etc/samba, so i deleted them on my own
[18:10] <ntsasng> ikonia: i speak English not verry well
[18:10] <ntsasng> :(
[18:10] <ikonia> bashi: how are you trying to install a package
[18:10] <bashi> ikonia: apt-get install
[18:11] <ikonia> bashi: what package are you trying to install ?
[18:11] <Kuifje111> try apt-get update
[18:11] <ntsasng> ikonia: install LAMPP on Debian same Ubuntu?
[18:11] <ikonia> Kuifje111: that won't install anything
[18:11] <ntsasng> ikonia: i'm using Debian lenny
[18:11] <bashi> ikonia: any package, I get this problem with them all
[18:11] <Kuifje111> it might solve your problem though.
[18:11] <ikonia> ntsasng: I don't know what you're asking
[18:11] <Bootydancechamp> Hello I need help.  Grub will boot linux but not my windows drive.
[18:11] <ikonia> ntsasng: then join #debian - debian is not supported here
[18:11] <bashi> Kuifje111: I tried apt-get update
[18:12] <youssef> Is the latest wubi version buggy?
[18:12] <AmberJ> youssef, Define buggy.
[18:12] <mneptok> youssef: and define "latest." are you asking about Lucid?
[18:13] <youssef> AmberJ: for example a distribution installer that does not include a kernel !
[18:13] <AmberJ> for example.... Are we discussing test cases here?
[18:13] <youssef> mneptok:  latest is the latest available version available today (rev160)
[18:13] <steffan> halim: removing /etc/samba/smb.conf will remove the configuration file. if you're then looking for the original configuration file, there seems to be a copy at http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware_source/n/samba/smb.conf.default
[18:13] <winterweaver> how can I get rid of namorka, and just get good old firefox back? I've tried to purge the packages, and reinstall, but everytime i install it's just namorka again, and it keeps crashing :(
[18:14] <mneptok> youssef: on what release? Karmic?
[18:14] <steffan> winterweaver: ubuntu version?
[18:14] <winterweaver> steffan, karmic
[18:14] <youssef> mneptok: 9.10
[18:14] <mneptok> youssef: ah, OK
[18:15] <king11> does anyone know how to get an animated skydome to work
[18:15] <AmberJ> youssef, Isn't the installer just the installer?
[18:16] <AmberJ> how come kernel comes into the scene, youssef
[18:16] <AmberJ> ?
[18:16] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. How can I set up PhotoRec software for transferring rescued files to my portable hard disk? Thank you.
[18:17] <youssef> AmberJ: it is an installer that creates automatically a dual boot. It seems that they forgot to ship the kernel
[18:17] <oCean_> vbox-ose/karmic question: I need to access my usb drive in virtualbox-ose XP client on 9.10 host. I started here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB, like many other howto's, it says to add my user to group 'vboxusers', however, my Karmic has no such group. Besides that, even if I create such a group, the next step (mounting usbfs) fails with "/proc/bus/usb does not exist" and/or "unknown filesystem type usbfs"
[18:17] <oCean_> What am i missing here..?
[18:18] <guntbert> oCean_: vbox OSE doesn't support USB -- further support in #vbox
[18:18] <Turbolinux> Can you help me for my problem? Thank you.
[18:19] <geekphreak> hi all
[18:19] <youssef> I am filling a bug report
[18:20] <fliff>  ChogyDan - Yes, exactly like a thin client
[18:20] <fliff> Sorry all - been afk for a bit - Can anyone help me achieve this? Looking to have a Ubuntu box set up where I can then have multiple users remote in to their own GNOME session without anything being displayed on the server. Is there a simple solution for this?
[18:21] <Koterpillar> fliff, XDMCP
[18:21] <AmberJ> youssef, Isn't wubi just a installer that looks for other stuff on ubuntu CD? correct me if I'm wrong
[18:21] <fliff> XDMCP? Thanks, I'll Google it
[18:21] <ChogyDan> fliff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto
[18:22] <fliff> Thanks guys
[18:22] <youssef> AmberJ: no wubi is an installer on Windows, that download and install Ubuntu in a windows directory and creats a dual boot. My bug seems to be very old. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477104
[18:23] <Hacted> Oloa
[18:23] <brian> My printer is working in Ubuntu and I want to share it with my Windows 7 computer. I set up smb.conf just like it said on their site and my windows 7 computer can see the printer but it says "cannot connect to printer". Any ideas why?
[18:24] <Turbolinux> I need a solution urgently. Do you have an idea for solving this problem?
[18:24] <AmberJ> youssef, Ah. I misunderstood you :(
[18:24] <Koterpillar> brian, suggest you share it using IPP, enter http://ubuntuhost:631/name_of_the_printer as printer address on Windows
[18:25] <Koterpillar> although that's not a solution to your original problem...
[18:25] <brian> kotepillar: if it gets my windows computer to print to it, it's a perfect solutions
[18:25] <brian> thanks, I'll try it out
[18:26] <king11> how do you get a 360 skydome picture to come up on a laptop with 1024 x 768
[18:26] <Koterpillar> brian, check in printing options that your printer is shared
[18:27] <geekphreak> brian by any chane yo disabled any services on windows?
[18:27] <shafiq> Does anyone know of a Windows client program that will allow me to access the Remote Desktop on my Ubuntu machine?
[18:27] <king11> basically, I want the skydome to not have a seam but for some reason it keeps having a line in it
[18:27] <brian> geekphreak: well, I am in windows 7 god mode
[18:27] <brian> i don't know if that disables any services or not
[18:27] <DarkSector> !hi
[18:28] <youssef> amberJ the proposed solution seems very complicated for a newbie. I mean I would not have guessed these commands
[18:28] <DarkSector> ok just testing if it's alive
[18:28] <geekphreak> brian yeah thats ok but make sure yo have not disabled print spooler service
[18:28] <DarkSector> !paste
[18:29] <brian> geekphreak: Oh ok. It's not disabled because I can hook my windows computer directly to the printer via USB and print
[18:29] <geekphreak> ok good
[18:30] <steffan> !msgthebot | DarkSector
[18:32] <youssef> see you
[18:32] <licquor> i need help finding the rite flash player or plugin for the farmtown game on facebook
[18:32] <licquor> can anyone help me
[18:33] <licquor> anyone here  who plays farmtown on facebook  can  u  help  me please
[18:34] <king11> hi, wanted to know if anyone else had this problem
[18:34] <crenshaw> Is it actually shockwave?
[18:34] <crenshaw> All of my flash documents run fine
[18:35] <king11> everytime i select an animated skydome as a png file i get a blank white background when i try to rotate cube
[18:35] <lydia> hello
[18:36] <lydia> hola
[18:36] <lydia> hola
[18:36] <licquor> hello   is there  any facebook gamers  in  here  i  need some  help
[18:36] <lydia> i have facebook
[18:36] <licquor> do  u  play  farmtown
[18:36] <lydia> yep
[18:37] <lydia> wy you need help
[18:37] <licquor> i  have firefox  and when  i  play farmtown  i cant see the whole inventory list
[18:37] <Turbolinux> Does anyone know how to set up PhotoRec for transferring rescued files to my portable hard disk? I need to rescue my files urgently.
[18:37] <lydia> sorry my english is not very gook
[18:37] <licquor> i  think  its a  flash  or plugin  but  im  not sure  which
[18:37] <lydia> good
[18:37] <BluesKaj-Laptop> licquor, that's quite a narrow question, whynot try the #facebook chat
[18:37] <licquor> i  have  they  r rude  and  no  help
[18:38] <lydia> sorry but i got to go
[18:38] <licquor> ty  lydia
[18:38] <Dmole> I think I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/177235 how do I check from the CLI?
[18:38] <brian> licquor: open up synaptic and click the reload button. then search for flash and install or update it
[18:38] <Snow_Wolf> Greetings all.
[18:38] <uburanjan> darksector?
[18:38] <Zer0-1> !list
[18:38] <DarkSector> uburanjan: here
[18:38] <Turbolinux> The software lists only home directories. A solution for changing saving place will be good for me.
[18:38] <licquor> i  have  did that  but  im  not sure  which  ones to  install
[18:38] <Snow_Wolf> So the Screen Lock applet has stopped working and I have no idea as to why. Anyone know where I would start looking?
[18:39] <DarkSector> uburanjan: do this /dialog DarkSector
[18:39] <uburanjan> darksector:kk
[18:39] <licquor> the ones i  chose  didnt  work
[18:39] <licquor> do  i  install  all  on the  list
[18:39] <licquor> how do  i  know  which  ones  are the rite ones
[18:39] <brian> licquor: I don't remember the exact package name you need to install. Maybe someone else here does
[18:39] <bribroder> afternoon everyone
[18:39] <uburanjan> darksector:done
[18:39] <Sia--> bribroder, moin
[18:40] <licquor> someone told me  b4   it  was a  java  but  i  did that and  still  there  was no  change and still  more  other java not installed
[18:40] <cdlt> hello
[18:41] <bribroder> licquor, what are you trying to install?
[18:41] <brontosaurusrex> how do i box-select some text in gedit?
[18:42] <licquor> i  think  its  a  flash  or plugin  not sure  which
[18:42] <Sia--> brontosaurusrex, with mouse over
[18:42] <shafiq> does anyone know of a better (non-laggy) remote desktop software then vnc?
[18:42] <uburanjan>  /join #ubuntu-in
[18:42] <Sia--> licquor, 64 or 32 bit?
[18:42] <bribroder> shafiq, client or server?
[18:42] <GNU\colossus> shafiq: VNC over a fast link ;)
[18:42] <licquor> having trouble  with games  on  facebook
[18:42] <Dmole> shafiq: nxserver
[18:42] <Snow_Wolf> So the Screen Lock applet has stopped working and I have no idea as to why. Anyone know where I would start looking?
[18:42] <brontosaurusrex> Sia--: that selects entire lines
[18:43] <licquor> sorry   im  not  sure  how  do i  know  which  @sia
[18:43] <Sia--> licquor, facebook java box is bug
[18:43] <Sia--> bugy*
[18:43] <Dmole> shafiq: not the open version but free anyway
[18:43] <Sia--> licquor,  uname -r
[18:43] <Sia--> licquor,  uname -a
[18:43] <bribroder> freenx is the bomb
[18:43] <shafiq> bribroder, GNU\colossus, Dmole:  what is the default in Ubuntu?
[18:43] <Sia--> brontosaurusrex, what you trying to do?
[18:43] <licquor> sorry  im  new  to  this  what does that mean  @sia
[18:44] <Snow_Wolf> So, the Lock Screen applet doesn't seem to work for me anymore. Where would I start looking to fix this issue?
[18:44] <Sia--> licquor, you know terminal/konsole?
[18:44] <licquor> yes
[18:44] <brontosaurusrex> Sia--: select text from x12 to y34 for example
[18:44] <Sia--> ok type  uname -a
[18:44] <Dmole> shafiq: something stupid slow
[18:45] <shafiq> Dmole: hmm okay, so, nxserver -- is there a windows client as well?
[18:45] <Dmole> shafiq: yes
[18:45] <shafiq> dmole:  perfect thanks :)
[18:45] <Dmole> shafiq: what do you want to use it for?
[18:46] <bribroder> shafiq, freenx has a really fast server
[18:46] <licquor> ok     now  what
[18:46] <shafiq> Dmole: just to access my linux box from my windows laptop machine in the house
[18:47] <fax> hi
[18:47] <Arch_NME> hi
[18:47] <shafiq> bribroder: so it doesn't matter if i use freenx or nxserver?
[18:47] <Sia--> moin Arch_NME
[18:47] <Arch_NME> good morning
[18:47] <licquor> ok   i  did  @sia
[18:47] <fax> I tried ubuntu a couple of times but I kept finding that after a few weeks it would stop booting correctly, e.g. it would just give a glitchy screen on startup and not do anything --- why ?
[18:48] <sjd> hi, I have a quick question. I'm currently using 9.10 and have build the OpenCV library for Python, will it stop working if I upgrade to Lucid?
[18:48] <rethus> have xubuntu 9.10.. .where can i change the masterpassword of my keyring?
[18:48] <Sia--> licquor, and what 32 or 64?
[18:48] <Dmole> shafiq: other good tools are sshfs winscp x forwarding ssh-cli .... the free(open) one is different you can try them both ans see what you like... the setup can be a pain
[18:49] <licquor> this  is what  i  see  esktop 2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:23:09 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:49] <sjd> will upgrading to lucid break my current setup of OpenCV with Python?
[18:49] <Sia--> licquor, 32bit
[18:49] <licquor> ok  ty
[18:49] <licquor> now what
[18:49] <Dmole> shafiq: both are free one is open source
[18:50] <Sia--> and what is you java version?
[18:50] <sjd> any comments please..
[18:50] <Sia--> sjd, hmm
[18:50] <Sia--> !lucid | sjd
[18:51] <licquor> ok  where  is that  but  i  think   i have  java 6 maybe
[18:51] <sjd> Sia--: what do you think. will it break?
[18:51] <fax> can I ask a general question: What is the absolutely best kind fo linux to put on a mac pro? I mean one that is least likely to break and most robust of all?
[18:51] <Sia--> !lucid | sjd
[18:51] <sjd> Sia--:  ?
[18:51] <Sia--> fax, ubuntu :)
[18:52] <guntbert> sjd: not here please -- ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:52] <sambo__> can I ask a related question to that, are the 32 and 64bit builds bootable on octo core mac pro?
[18:52] <sjd> guntbert: okay. thanks for redirecting.
[18:52] <Sia--> licquor, and what is your problem licquor in which program or page with java?
[18:53] <Sia--> guntbert, i told him 2 times :D
[18:53] <Sia--> !ask | sambo__
[18:53] <licquor> version 6 update 15
[18:54] <guntbert> Sia--: I saw -- but sometimes a personal sentence is more powerful :-)
[18:54] <Sia--> guntbert, yep :)
[18:54] <sjd> guntbert: you are right! Sorry Sia-- :)
[18:54] <wolter> how can I kill and stop nautilus from restarting?
[18:54] <Arch_NME> is there a term command to detect usb drives? so I can see like what it is to mount it?
[18:54] <Sia--> sjd, np you are welcome
[18:55] <ChogyDan> wolter: nautilus handles your desktop, AFAIK
[18:55] <Sia--> Arch_NME, fdisk -l
[18:55] <Arch_NME> ty
[18:55] <sambo__> I have an octo core mac pro and have seen confusing and conflicting information regarding running linux (temporarily) on it, I would like to profile some fluid solving code on 32 and 64bit linux can you help me clarify the situation with some advice please
[18:55] <licquor> trying to  play games on facebook but  all the parts not available
[18:56] <Sia--> sambo__, for mac or power pc is special version called ubuntu power pc or debian ..etc
[18:56] <licquor> i  use firefox
[18:56] <Arch_NME> Sia: That command just got me to a ">"
[18:56] <rethus> have xubuntu 9.10.. .where can i change the masterpassword of my keyring?
[18:56] <Sia--> Arch_NME, use sudo fdisk -l
[18:57] <sambo__> Sia--:  do you know more about the installation process with regards to EFI and having to install windows first etc (googling your suggestions now)
[18:57] <wolter> ChogyDan, yes but I want to kill it and run it from a terminal to debug
[18:57] <Arch_NME> Sia: it still prompts me with a >
[18:57] <bribroder> licquor, have you got ubuntu restricted extras installed?
[18:57] <ChogyDan> licquor: try this, for sanity sake: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras sun-java6-plugin && sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun && sudo apt-get remove mozilla-plugin-gnash swfdec-mozilla
[18:57] <Arch_NME> Sia: then what I type it says unable to open
[18:58] <Sia--> licquor, i think ubuntu using icedtea plugin no more java plugin or no more in lucid or the next ubuntu versions, if something does't work, then is not directly ubuntu fault
[18:58] <bribroder> chogydan, same thought :)
[18:58] <wolter> !tab | bribroder
[18:59] <Arch_NME> OH I SEE!!!!!!!! that an L not a pipe |
[19:00] <Arch_NME> that fdisk command is only showing the three drive I have currently mounted though
[19:01] <bribroder> thanks wolter
[19:01] <Sia--> Arch_NME, ok
[19:01] <histo> Arch_NME: it should show all drives detected by the system
[19:01] <Arch_NME> I'm trying to find out info about a usb drive that did not get mounted so I can mount it
[19:01] <Sia--> then mount the usbs
[19:01] <ChogyDan> wolter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/204413
[19:01] <Arch_NME> I don't know where they are to mount them
[19:01] <histo> Arch_NME: lsusb should show the usb drive inserted
[19:01] <sambo__> Sia--:  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnIntelMacPro <-- closest thing to a lucid answer I have found, I'm really hoping there is an easier way
[19:01] <histo> Arch_NME: gnome mounts them in ~/.gvfs
[19:02] <fax> sambo__ me too
[19:02] <histo> Arch_NME: mount  in a terminal by itself will show you all the mounts currently in place
[19:02] <sambo__> fax: did you run through that gauntlet and try to get it working?
[19:02] <Arch_NME> they are not currently mounted
[19:02] <dakota> hello
[19:02] <dakota> anyone can help me...?
[19:02] <fax> sambo__ no I installed ubuntu a couple times though
[19:02] <sambo__> fax: with success?
[19:02] <deadlyblue> trying to fix my mic input not capturing audio i have the intel onboard ac97 .I found and unpacked Alsa driver. when i execute the compile and install in the terminal i recive server erorrs "chown: cannot access `/dev/snd/pcmC3D7c': No such file or directory" i just need pointed in the right direction. thanks
[19:03] <dakota> I'm trying to install javaee sdk in ubuntu 10.04
[19:03] <fax> sambo__ it installed and worked for a few weeks... but then I couldn't boot into it
[19:03] <fax> I think an upgrade broke it or something, I don't really know (it sucked)
[19:03] <Sia--> !lucid | dakota
[19:03] <Dmole> dakota: and the problem is?
[19:03] <dakota> sun-java6-sdk package
[19:03] <dakota> is not avaible in Lucid
[19:04] <dakota> then I hava to install jdk from bin downloaded from sun web site
[19:04] <Sia--> dakota, is no more in lucid is wishlist i think
[19:04] <Dmole> dakota: lol so use the binary installer
[19:04] <Guest_510>  (sambo__)  Sia--:  http://wiki. Lesbian.org/DebianOnIntelMacPro <-- closest thing to a lucid answer I have found, I'm really hoping there is an easier way     lol
[19:04] <Sia--> Guest_510, nice
[19:04] <sambo__> eh?
[19:05] <sambo__> are you like seven years old?
[19:05] <dakota> I can't install the binarie package because it try search libstdc++5
[19:05] <Arch_NME> well, I just moved it to a different usb port and it magically detected the drives now
[19:05] <dakota> and libstdc++5 is not avaible so
[19:05] <Arch_NME> odd, it works on that other usb port in windows
[19:05] <dakota> no, I'm spanish!
[19:05] <dakota> and my english is not very good
[19:05] <dakota> sorry
[19:05] <dakota> champion
[19:05] <Arch_NME> maybe it was just the act of disconnecting and reconnecting it though
[19:05] <sambo__> dakota: not written to you
[19:06] <dakota> you don't know speak spanish,no?
[19:06] <Dmole> dakota: did you try installing  libstdc++5?
[19:06] <Sia--> sambo__, and nott me
[19:06] <dakota> ok
[19:06] <histo> Arch_NME: could be that reinsertion worked
[19:06] <dakota> sorry again
[19:06] <Arch_NME> well thanks anyway, those were some good commands to know
[19:07] <Dmole> any one know how to test if a usb disk is in v2 mode?
[19:07] <licquor> sorry   but that  didnt  work  either  thanks  for  ur  help  all will  try again  another day
[19:07] <histo> Dmole: lsusb
[19:07] <Sia--> Arch_NME, is ubuntu is a program called analyze or something like that. try it
[19:08] <Arch_NME> Sia: that's a terminal command or that's in the menu somewhere
[19:08] <Arch_NME> ?
[19:08] <heartlesshero> need a program to play dvds in ubuntu
[19:08] <Dmole> histo: thanks know how to map Bus x Device y to a device?
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> heartlesshero:  most of the video players can do that if you got the proper support packages installed.
[19:08] <wertwertgfhjrer> when i change /etc/default/grub, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" to "text" my sound wont work any more. any ideas?
[19:09] <Sia--> i'm not using ubunt or gnome, thats why cannot tell you which program do that!
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> heartlesshero:  vlc, mplayer, gmplayer,
[19:09] <Sia--> Arch_NME, ^^
[19:09] <licquor> hearlesshero:   try   gnome player
[19:09] <gh0ghnus> vlc is the best
[19:09] <licquor> gnome mplayer  sorry
[19:09] <Arch_NME> oh
[19:09] <Sia--> heartlesshero, totem
[19:09] <Arch_NME> meh, it's alright it's fixed now anyway
[19:10] <Sia--> Arch_NME, i can check the program in Vbox wait :)
[19:11] <heartlesshero> dr_willis: you dont help a bit
[19:12] <nss> #nss
[19:12] <Sia-> Arch_NME, the program is "Disk Utility" is standard gnome package
[19:13] <Arch_NME> yes, I see it it's in system/administration menu
[19:14] <Sia--> brb
[19:15] <mawst> Anyone know where to get a good dictionary file for cracking?
[19:15] <lws> So...   I updated something recently and then rebooted a few days later.  Now it seems Avahi has told my network/interfaces file to go eff itself?
[19:15] <lws> My bridge entries and whatnot are being ingored
[19:15] <lws> ignored*
[19:15] <frxstrem> what is a good program for making animated images in Ubuntu/Linux?
[19:17] <DDAZZA> blender or gimp?
[19:18] <sobre>  /server chat05.universochat.net
[19:18] <lws> Hmm..
[19:18] <derenrich> is there a command which moves a file and then creates a symlink where it was pointing to it's new location?
[19:18] <lws> yeah
[19:18] <bribroder> Question about uninstalling evolution  packages
[19:18] <sobre>  /server chat05.universochat.net
[19:18] <lws> "mv blah blah; ln -s blah blah"
[19:18] <jpds> sobre: Please stop.
[19:19] <bribroder> can i uninstall evolution-data-server without killing gnome-panel?
[19:19] <frxstrem> DDAZZA: isn't blender for 3D? and can GIMP make animations?
[19:19] <aress> gfh
[19:19] <azi__> i've just enabled the proprietary drivers for my graphic card and now I cannot bot into my machine since it hangs while loading X. what can i do now? i'm ircing through a live CD
[19:19] <Dmole> help with "FATAL: Module ehci_hcd not found." ?
[19:20] <bribroder> azi__, ctrl alt F7 will get you a terminal
[19:20] <lws> $#&@*($& Network-manager
[19:20] <azi__> bribroder: no.. the machine freezes :/
[19:20] <Arch_NME> anyone have any experience with installing nvclock program?
[19:20] <azi__> bribroder: i should try to prevent X from even starting
[19:21] <bribroder> azi__, i'm definitely not an expert; have you tried using the recovery mode offered in grub?
[19:21] <Dmole> azi__: try editing the run levle
[19:21] <azi__> bribroder: grub is not prompting at boot time. ubuntu is booted automaticall
[19:21] <azi__> automatically
[19:22] <Arch_NME> or can someone help me with understanding these instruction to compile a program I downloaded?
[19:22] <azi__> Dmole: is there any way I could switch back to the previous driver by changeing some settings through the livecd?
[19:22]  * ringer current user is
[19:22] <gh0ghnus> azi__, just remove installed packages using synaptic
[19:22]  * ringer current user is
[19:22] <bribroder> Arch_NME, what program?
[19:22]  * ringer current user is
[19:23] <Arch_NME> briborder: nvclock
[19:23]  * ringer current user is
[19:23] <ZykoticK9> ringer, please stop
[19:23] <azi__> gh0ghnus: how do I use synaptic within the liveCD to remove applications on the primary system?
[19:23]  * ringer current user is
[19:23] <Arch_NME> briborder: I have a readme with instructions though, it's just not going exactly right
[19:23]  * ringer current user is
[19:23] <Arch_NME> briborder: need some assistance interpretting
[19:23] <Dmole> azi__: should be able to
[19:24] <Dmole> azi__: you could probably copy the x config from the live CD to your busted box
[19:25] <gh0ghnus> azi__, i'm sorry i made a mistake,
[19:25] <Dmole> azi__: make a backup of any file you change so you can revert
[19:25] <ikonia> kcinloc: you're cloaked
[19:25] <lws> :(
[19:25] <azi__> Dmole: the liveCD system has no xorg.conf? :)
[19:26] <bribroder> Arch_NME, what step are you on in the readme?
[19:26] <Arch_NME> briborder: I tried to send you the readme but it was flodding do I think it didn't through
[19:26] <Scarra3> Hey
[19:26] <histo> !paste | Arch_NME
[19:26] <Dmole> azi__: I would think it would make one on the RAM disk it uses, but I don't know for sure
[19:27] <bribroder> Arch_NME, i downloaded the package and i'm looking at the readme
[19:27] <Scarra3> I really like Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Beta 2 its really stable
[19:27] <lws> Why does every version have a .04 on it as of late?
[19:27] <maco> Scarra3: yay :) but lucid chatter is in #ubuntu+1
[19:28] <Arch_NME> briborder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/412227/
[19:28] <shashike> hello  all!
[19:28] <Losha> Scarra3: it's also really off-topic here, go to #ubuntu+1
[19:28] <azi__> Dmole: also i've looked in the xorg.conf of the busted system and there is no evident setting for the proprietary driver
[19:28] <maco> lws: .04 = released in april. .10 = released in october
[19:28] <shashike> i have a problem, my internal mic doesnt seem to work, i am using a sony vaio laptop, can someone please help me with this?
[19:28] <maco> lws: there have been: 4.10, 5.04, 5.10, 6.06, 6.10, 7.04, 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, 9.10 and will be 10.04
[19:29] <Arch_NME> why 6.06 and not 6.04?
[19:29] <lws> How do I force an install if the pre-install-script fails?
[19:29] <EdgEy__> late release i'd assume
[19:29] <maco> Arch_NME: delayed
[19:29] <ZykoticK9> lws, FYI the number before the . is the year it was released in
[19:29] <lws> I need to get /etc/init.d/networking back.   My install is FAILING because it's missing.  Bleh
[19:29] <maco> ZykoticK9: well, the year, minus 2000
[19:30] <Arch_NME> those instructions make any sense to you ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/412227/
[19:30] <ZykoticK9> maco, minus 2000?  don't you mean plus 2000?  ;)
[19:30] <shashike> my internal mic doesnt work, can someone pleasee help me? its very very urgent
[19:30] <maco> ZykoticK9: the year minus 2000 = the bit before teh .
[19:30] <bribroder> Arch_NME, have you run any commands yet?
[19:30] <lws> This is he-larious...
[19:31] <Arch_NME> well, I ran the first two
[19:31] <deadlyblue> shashike i have same problem with my mic. what i have read shows Alsamixe should be my fix you might read up on it.
[19:31] <Arch_NME> the second seemed to generate some new files
[19:31] <lws> pre-install scripts make a lot of asumptions about the state of the system "should be in"....
[19:31] <deadlyblue> alsamixer
[19:31] <gh0ghnus> azi__, i think working on grub is better than working on X config files first change grub config to access recovery mode
[19:31] <maco> lws: im surprised you could use apt while not having a networking script...
[19:31] <Arch_NME> when I go to run make install though it says "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."
[19:31] <maco> lws: you're using karmic?
[19:32] <bribroder> !tab Arch_NME
[19:32] <shashike> i have read a lot, about alsamixer and stuff, but nothing seems to help
[19:32] <lws> maco: Yes...  I *just* deleted my modified copy of the script thinking that it would be no problem to reinstall it.
[19:32] <Arch_NME> !tab??
[19:32] <lws> maco:  Stupid me for assuming it would just install some files...
[19:32] <maco> lws: ah. alright. lemme grab the package and find the file to pastebin for you
[19:32] <azi`> gh0ghnus: just trying to figurer out how to add this option in the config.. so that grups prompts me before boot
[19:32] <azi`> gh0ghnus: any clue?
[19:32] <Arch_NME> bash: !tab: event not found
[19:33] <Losha> Arch_NME: did you run autogen.sh and the ./configure before make?
[19:33] <lws> maco: Thanks.   I've had this problem a couple other things too with pre-install crap.    Updating to karmic crashed my system half-way.   It was a nightmare to try to get it to finish while booted off an a recovery cd....
[19:34] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, isn't nvclock in the default repository?  why are you compiling it?
[19:34]  * lws swears at stupid pre-install scripts.
[19:34] <mertle> !tab | Arch_NME is what he meant I think
[19:34] <Arch_NME> Losha: I think so let me try again
[19:34] <gh0ghnus> azi__, grub automatically shows this option, i think you must change wait time for grub
[19:34] <bribroder> Arch_NME, i think you may have missed ./configure
[19:34] <Arch_NME> oh
[19:34] <Arch_NME> let me go through the steps again just to make sure
[19:34] <Losha> Arch_NME: not only do they have to run, they have to run *without errors*....
[19:35] <shashike> guys , can someone PLEASE help me with my mic problem?
[19:36] <tw|master^brb> My computer crashed after installing the driver update for my videocard :(
[19:36] <tw|master^brb> any idea why?
[19:36] <Arch_NME> how do I run them from a terminal I just ran them from the gui before and I want to run them from terminal beacuse maybe I missed the error output
[19:36] <Micc__> I'm upgrading from 9.10 to ubuntu 10.04 beta 2, but its locked up with 25 minutes remaining.
[19:36] <maco> lws: http://pastebin.com/cvhqe8Xe
[19:36] <Arch_NME> just typing autogen.sh from the directory doesn't seem to work
[19:37] <Losha> Arch_NME: what happens?
[19:38] <lws> maco: thanks much!
[19:38] <Arch_NME> this happens http://paste.ubuntu.com/412232/
[19:38] <lws> brb
[19:38] <tw|master^brb> My computer crashed after installing the driver update for my videocard :( Any idea why that could be?
[19:38] <bribroder> make sure to use ./autogen.sh
[19:38] <jeipur> i can't make a program read a .log and it has already done.... it's getting like permission denied, can someone help me on this one?
[19:38] <Micc__> Its locked up on Installing Upgrades, below the bar says preparing memtest86+, and in the Terminal its filled with Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-19-generic
[19:39] <Losha> Arch_NME: read the last 4 lines. You need to install autogen before you can run it :-)
[19:39] <Micc__> And it keeps saying that found linux image message over and over.
[19:39] <Arch_NME> briborder I did that second command: see my log http://paste.ubuntu.com/412232/
[19:39] <Cool_Nick> My username can't mount a hd.  so I sudo mount it and then my user cant create folders on it.....
[19:39] <Arch_NME> what is and sh file isn't that supposed to be executable?
[19:40] <V3RR3Z> I just installed AnarchyOnline but it didnt take it out of the program list... What can i do?
[19:40] <Losha> Arch_NME: yes, but the script relies on other programs which aren't installed yet, so it fails...
[19:41] <bribroder> Arch_NME, you might need some extra tools
[19:41] <Arch_NME> the instructions jsut say to run that first though http://paste.ubuntu.com/412233/
[19:41] <Arch_NME> tools such as?
[19:41] <bribroder> they might be counting on you having build tools already installed
[19:42] <Arch_NME> what are build tools?
[19:42] <Losha> Arch_NME: just do what it says: sudo apt-get install autogen
[19:42] <bribroder> Losha, are you looking at line 15? that's just a mis-entered command
[19:42] <Arch_NME> Losha this isn't from the package manager though
[19:42] <ZykoticK9> shashike, the other day i tried to get Skype working and realized that my mic wasn't working either.  The first thing is to verify that the mic is not muted (and the proper mic input is selected, if you have more then one) and has it's volume turned up.  In my case with and Intel HDA I did have to manually edit some lines in alsa-base to get it to work, but that's a hardware specific issue.  Good luck man (I'm no "sound" expert, so really can't s
[19:42] <ZykoticK9> uggest much more i'm afraid)
[19:43] <Losha> Arch_NME: they are support tools that developers use when building stuff. Believe it or not, they actually make development easier
[19:43] <bribroder> Arch_NME, try "sudo apt-get install autoconf makedev"
[19:43] <Arch_NME> where can I obtain these tools, is there a common standard set?
[19:43] <Losha> bribroder: oh, right. But lines 11, 12 and 13 aren't. Those are missing executables...
[19:44] <tw|master^brb> My computer crashed after installing the driver update for my videocard :( Any idea why that could be?
[19:44] <bribroder> azi`, did you have any luck?
[19:44] <bribroder> Losha, right-o. i'm not sure what autoheader and aclocal are...
[19:44] <Arch_NME> oaky I ran that command succesfully briborder, tools installed
[19:45] <DPic> is there a way to run the alternate installer from the desktop liveCD?
[19:45] <ZykoticK9> DPic, if you want a text install - you'll need to use the alternate CD i'm affraid
[19:45] <kai_> hello everybody
[19:45] <bribroder> Arch_NME, try ./autogen.sh again and see how many errors you get
[19:45] <DPic> ZykoticK9: ah, why's that?
[19:45] <Arch_NME> it did nothing
[19:45] <stopsign> i have vista installed first,ubuntu9.10 on second drive, grub2 works perfect, now i want to install free bsd, any help pages on doing this to have all 3 show in grub2 ?
[19:45] <Arch_NME> just brought me back to another command prompt
[19:45] <azi`> bribroder: i was able to boot into my machine by removing the "load fglrx" section of my xorg.conf, but now i can't use applications using openGL
[19:45] <Arch_NME> which I think is good
[19:45] <ZykoticK9> DPic, because the LiveCD doesn't have the text installer
[19:46] <DPic> ZykoticK9: is it an installable package?
[19:46] <Flannel> DPic: The installers are completely different
[19:46] <Losha> bribroder: some kind of macro packages for supporting the autoconf stuff. Sometimes I think this stuff is more trouble than it's worth...
[19:46] <azi`> bribroder: any clue how to fix that? for the proprietary drivers, it just seem they'll not work so i'll switch to the open ones for the moment
[19:46] <DPic> hm, i see
[19:46] <Losha> Arch_NME: yes, try ./configure next...
[19:46] <under0> hi
[19:47] <under0> Why ubuntu 10.04 uses 500mb of memory? i've just installed..
[19:47] <ZykoticK9> under0, #ubuntu+1 is the lucid channel
[19:47] <Arch_NME> what does it mean run the configure script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/412233/
[19:47] <bribroder> Arch_NME, it means type ./configure
[19:47] <salvo> ciao
[19:47] <salvo> !list
[19:47] <Losha> Arch_NME: it means, type this: ./configure    <--- note leading period.
[19:48] <Cool_Nick> Whats the best way to mount a new hard drive?
[19:48] <enthdegree> GREPLIBS GREPLIBS GREPLIBS GREPLIBS GREPLIBS!
[19:48] <Pirate_Hunter> I am trying to watch an flv file on my desktop, however, the image sometimes goes blank and all I can do is listen to it unless I stop it and restart again, this will also happen if another application pops up, how do I fix this?
[19:48] <azi`> so the question is. how can i switch back to the non-proprietary drivers?
[19:48] <Arch_NME> okay that configure script seemed to go with error
[19:48] <Losha> Arch_NME: please pastebin the output...
[19:48] <bribroder> azi`,  did you apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[19:49] <enthdegree> Cool_Nick: I use mount
[19:49] <ZykoticK9> azi`, if you move your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup (or similar) X will fallback to using the opensource driver
[19:49] <Cool_Nick> I would like to use a gui wher eit will automatically put it into fstab etc...
[19:49] <bribroder> azi`, you may find it helpful to reconfig the server
[19:49] <Arch_NME> this was the output, still same issue with make install http://paste.ubuntu.com/412235/
[19:50] <azi`> bribroder: reconfig manually or is there any command for that? xorgcfg doesn't seem to be shipped with ubuntu
[19:50] <enthdegree> Why not just put it into fstab yourself?
[19:50] <bribroder> azi`, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:50] <azi`> bribroder: thanks
[19:51] <azi`> bribroder: the xorg configs remains the same as after my last edit, after I issue this command
[19:51] <Cool_Nick> trying to keep it simple right now
[19:51] <azi`> bribroder: and the problem is that with this config i am not able to use opengl
[19:51] <Cool_Nick> Im also trying to get used to the gui
[19:52] <enthdegree> Cool_Nick: There's a gui now?
[19:52] <V3RR3Z> WHAT THE FUCK!
[19:52] <ZykoticK9> !language | V3RR3Z
[19:52] <enthdegree> !language
[19:52] <tw|master^brb> My computer crashed after installing the driver update for my videocard :( Any idea why that could be?
[19:52] <enthdegree> I win. (:<
[19:52] <Losha> Arch_NME: well it's a gui program, so it's looking for X11 development libraries. Either install them, or try configuring without them (presumably you'll get a cli version of the program). Reread the lines 11 thru 26 of the installation instructions...
[19:52] <bribroder> azi`, just making sure there's no bits left over... did you say you --purged the driver?
[19:52] <azi`> bribroder: yes
[19:52] <azi`> bribroder: copy pasted what u said actually
[19:52] <V3RR3Z> Why would a program still show inthe Menu thats not supposed to be installed.
[19:53] <bribroder> Arch_NME, looks like progress... you got an error when you ran ./configure though
[19:53] <calum>
[19:53] <Losha> enthdegree: what was all that greplibs stuff earlier?
[19:53] <Arch_NME> yeah I see the error
[19:53] <Arch_NME> xll development libraries eh...
[19:53] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, you do have Xorg installed correct?  just going from the error message.
[19:54] <enthdegree> Losha: All five.
[19:54] <Arch_NME> I don't even know what is xorg?
[19:54] <mertle> V3RR3Z: you didn't choose to completely remove it - config files and all
[19:54] <Arch_NME> if it came with standard ubuntu I have it if not I don't
[19:54] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, sorry - I'm sure you do then (xorg is the GUI)
[19:54] <Arch_NME> I have the gnome gui
[19:55] <Losha> Arch_NME: the development libraries don't come standard, since it's assumed that most people aren't going to be compiling from scratch. Remind me, why are you doing this?
[19:55] <e-i-k-e> hi
[19:55] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, Losha have you tried the nvclock in the default repository?  sudo apt-get install nvclock?
[19:55] <Arch_NME> Losha, to get like two more frame s sec while playing video games, ;)
[19:56] <Arch_NME> no it's not in repository
[19:56] <azi`> bribroder: removing xorg.conf and restarting X helped. now i just need to find if there is any related bug to mine
[19:56] <Arch_NME> also, plus doing stuff like this is educational and I like learnign stuff
[19:56] <guntbert> !hi e-i-k-e
[19:56] <guntbert> !hi | e-i-k-e
[19:57] <mertle> !info nvclock > Arch_NME
[19:57] <bribroder> azi`, is wine involved at all?
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:58] <Losha> Arch_NME: well, you're going to need either gtk or qt development libraries. I would try gtk first. e.g. sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[19:58] <bribroder> Arch_NME, nvclock shows up in the repos for me, in fact
[19:58] <Arch_NME> mertle what does that emssage mean you sent me?
[19:58] <Arch_NME> I have 9.10 installed
[19:58] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, then nvclock should be in the repo
[19:58] <Arch_NME> it is in the repos!!! well doesn't that make me just look retarded then
[19:59] <mertle> Arch_NME: the bot should have sent you a message saying that nvclock is in the universe repo
[19:59] <Arch_NME> I swear I searched for it
[19:59] <azi`> bribroder: no, why?
[19:59] <azi`> bribroder: where did wine came from?
[20:00] <Arch_NME> yes I found it O_o
[20:00] <mertle> heh
[20:00] <Losha> Arch_NME: our fault as much as yours. We should have checked also...
[20:01] <Arch_NME> no it's fine I said that I looked
[20:01] <bribroder> Arch_NME, face-palm on my part
[20:01] <enthdegree> matt makes games./wc
[20:01] <bribroder> azi`, just curious if you were trying to run an app with wine, infamously fragile
[20:01] <enthdegree> Aww, rats.
[20:02] <Losha> Arch_NME: if you do this for any length of time, you realise that everyone makes mistakes, all the time...
[20:02] <Arch_NME> oh yes I know, I work at a helpdesk actually
[20:03] <mattdawson> does anyone know how scripts in /etc/init.d end up symlinked in /etc/rcX.d directories?
[20:03] <mertle> Arch_NME: I find   apt-cache search "app"   a much better to find things
[20:03] <Losha> Arch_NME: then it's just Karma, working through Karmic...
[20:03] <Arch_NME> besides it's as much about learnign my way around linux at this point as overclocking my card
[20:03] <mattdawson> i have an iptables startup script that somehow automatically got symlinked on one machine, but on another, it didn't.
[20:03] <Arch_NME> emrtle: that's a terminal command?
[20:03] <mattdawson> is that something that ubuntu might have done?
[20:03] <mertle> Arch_NME: yep
[20:03] <jolaren> I want to change my default audio mixer in alsamixer to PCM from Master Front, how do I do this?
[20:04] <Arch_NME> mertle: yeah that found it as well
[20:04] <Losha> mattdawson: it would happen if you installed a firewalling a package on one machine but not the other...
[20:04] <bribroder> azi`, you may try --reinstalling libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri
[20:05] <mattdawson> Losha: hmm. okay. i actually don't remember installing one...
[20:05] <mertle> jolaren: tried right clicking the sound icon in the panel?
[20:05] <hermann_> alskj;asdf
[20:05] <hermann_> asdfasdf
[20:05] <hermann_> fff
[20:05] <hermann_> asdf
[20:05] <FloodBot3> hermann_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:05] <jolaren> mertle: I did try that, doesnt work
[20:06] <bribroder> azi`, and be sure to restart of course :)
[20:06] <_pHI_> hi, i was curious if there's a neat way to print from emacs to a cups printer?
[20:06] <_pHI_>  i am really new to this...
[20:06] <_pHI_>  but got spoiled by the windows print dialog that is also available in ubuntu for some of the gtk2 apps
[20:06] <azi`> bribroder: ok. thank you for your time
[20:06] <Arch_NME> this may seem a foolish question but where do you suppose that program is now that it's installed?
[20:06] <hermann_> nick abc
[20:06] <Losha> mattdawson: It might also happen if one of the machines has multiple network interfaces, or you installed some other kind of packet filtering package...
[20:06] <hermann_> asdfa
[20:06] <hermann_> ssaf
[20:07] <guntbert> hermann_: stop that please
[20:07] <hermann_> ok
[20:07] <Losha> Arch_NME: try 'which nvclock'. If that doesn't work, there are only a few other places to look...
[20:07] <bribroder> azi`, you're probably better at this in any case... driver problems freak me out
[20:07] <hermann_> exit
[20:08] <hermann_>
[20:08] <Arch_NME> "/usr/bin/nvclock" that worked
[20:08] <mattdawson> Losha: is it a bad idea to symlink my script into rcX.d myself?
[20:08] <mattdawson> like, is that the kind of thing that'll get overwritten?
[20:09] <mertle> mattdawson: there's update-rc in karmic if that is what you're using
[20:09] <akiteko> mattdawson: Yes it is bad, really bad. It's Evil.
[20:10] <mattdawson> mertle: ah, yes. I am.
[20:10] <mattdawson> aktieko: i kinda figured. ;)
[20:10] <_pHI_> no ideas about printing from emacs to cups printer? with duplex?
[20:10] <akiteko> isn't it update-rc.d ? Like in debian (if i'm not mistaking)
[20:11] <Losha> mattdawson: I've linked scripts by hand, that's essentially what the update-rc.d script does, but it's better to use update-rc.d. And yes, they can be overwritten when you upgrade, which is why you have backups...
[20:11] <UnderSampled> How am I supposed to use DISPLAY=hostname:layour.screen where hostname is a different computer?
[20:11] <UnderSampled> when I try that, it tells me that no protocol was specified
[20:11] <rocket16> I have 9.10 running, and within a few days, 10.04 releases. So, if I download the Alternate CD, can I install Ubuntu 10.04 atop 9.10?
[20:11] <mattdawson> hmm...where is update-rc.d?
[20:11] <mattdawson> i don't see it in /etc
[20:12] <mertle> /usr/bin
[20:12] <Losha> mattdawson: which  update-rc.d; man update-rc.d
[20:12] <tw|master^brb> well thanks for no help anyway ^^
[20:12] <tw|master^brb> bye :)
[20:13] <mertle> rocket16: you should get the oppurtunity to upgrade to 10.04
[20:13] <Losha> rocket16: note that although 10.04 will come out at the end of April, it probably won't be *stable* until June/July...
[20:13] <rocket16> mertle: Thanks, but I want a CD, such that, if it fails anyway, I can make it once again.
[20:13] <rocket16> Losha: Oh, thanks.
[20:14] <alket> I just installed ubuntu in my fathers lap top but i cant connect to wireless ?
[20:14] <Losha> UnderSampled: you set the environment variable DISPLAY using the new hostname....
[20:15] <mertle> !wifi > alket:
[20:15] <alket> mertle: I dont understand
[20:15] <UnderSampled> Losha: I'm running my command with DISPLAY= infront
[20:15] <guntbert> UnderSampled: I suggest you do it the easy way: use ssh -X to connect to the server (thats a big X, so X gets forwarded through the ssh connection)
[20:15] <mertle> !wifi | alket:
[20:15] <mertle> alket: I hope it helps
[20:15] <mattdawson> so update-rc.d is new in karmic?
[20:16] <UnderSampled> guntbert: I'm trying to display on the other computer, but run on the computer where I issue the command
[20:16] <e1000u_> nn
[20:16] <Losha> UnderSampled: that's the idea. Check that your parameters are correct. The exact line you're typing might help...
[20:16] <Losha> mattdawson: I see it in 8.04...
[20:16] <trism> UnderSampled: you need to make sure XAUTHORITY is correct to, since they moved the location in karmic
[20:17] <alket> mertle: It doesnt help
[20:17] <UnderSampled> Losha: DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0 firefox
[20:17] <guntbert> UnderSampled: ok - then listen to Losha please
[20:17] <mertle> alket: where doeds it fall short?
[20:17] <UnderSampled> I'm actually still on 9.4
[20:17] <trism> UnderSampled: ahh, then I don't know
[20:17] <alket> mertle: i connect from network manager and it tries to connect but it fails
[20:18] <UnderSampled> how do you do it in karmic?
[20:18] <mattdawson> Losha: ahh, good. thanks for your help, everyone!
[20:18] <craniumslows> hi room
[20:18] <overmind> Hi user
[20:18] <craniumslows> :D
[20:18] <guntbert> UnderSampled: you will have to allow X access to the "other computer" ( there is xhost...)
[20:19] <mertle> alket: I don't use wifi - that bot command is the extent of my knowledge as far as wifi goes - someone else will know
[20:19] <craniumslows> I can't believe how much easier setting up a second display was thanks to the nvidia binary
[20:19] <UnderSampled> guntbert: so...
[20:19] <Androidfan647> i am trying to get my bluetooth dial up network to work on 10.04.  i am trying to tether my nexus 1 signal to my laptop via an android app called p d a net which i have gotten to work on windows before i bankrate it to you later
[20:19] <alket> mertle: thank you
[20:19] <mertle> np
[20:19] <Losha> UnderSampled: um, try it with something simpler and smaller first e.g. gnome-terminal. Also, I don't use bash much. Don't you need an 'export' or an 'env' command to do this?
[20:19] <alket> Who can help me how to connect with wireless, because i cant
[20:20] <guntbert> UnderSampled: sorry - its been too long ago that I tried that
[20:20] <craniumslows> alket: What chipset is your wireless card?
[20:20] <UnderSampled> Losha: I believe I have been able to run it before on the native computer (where it's just :1
[20:20] <alket> craniumslows: how do i check that
[20:21] <ZykoticK9> alket, "lspci | grep Ethernet" should list your ethernet cards, including wireless
[20:22] <Losha> UnderSampled: well try it with gnome-terminal. Does it say 'cannot open display'?
[20:22] <craniumslows> alket: Does it show up under Network Device on System->Administration->Network Tools ?
[20:22] <Losha> d
[20:22] <alket> craniumslows,ZykoticK9: 00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[20:23] <ZykoticK9> alket, that isn't the wireless one though
[20:23] <ZykoticK9> alket, actually, with Bridge - "perhaps" it is
[20:23] <craniumslows> alket: If the card doesn't show up in your network then it may not have a driver loaded
[20:24] <craniumslows> alket: what is the manufacturer and model number?
[20:24] <alket> http://pastebin.com/MrFQDH02
[20:24] <UnderSampled> Losha: is there a way to list current layouts/screens?
[20:25] <Canonical> http://www.ubuntu.org
[20:25] <alket> it shows my wireless but when i want to connect to it it fails
[20:25] <stopsign> i have vista installed first,ubuntu9.10 on second drive, grub2 works perfect, now i want to install free bsd, any help pages on doing this to have all 3 show in grub2 ?
[20:25] <craniumslows> alket, ZykoticK9 : you can see other networks listed then?
[20:25] <ZykoticK9> craniumslows, i don't no
[20:26] <alket> craniumslows: Yes i can, but when i want to connect to a wireless ESSID that I used to connect in Win7 it fails
[20:26] <craniumslows> ZykoticK9: sorry he was talking at both of us so I wasn't sure if you were at the same place
[20:26] <Androidfan647> i am able to pair  my device but i cannot connect:-)
[20:27]  * UnderSampled will be back in a minute
[20:27] <craniumslows> alket: What encryption are you using and do you have mac filtering on?
[20:27] <alket> craniumslows: No the mac is as same as in windows
[20:28] <craniumslows> alket: I mean for your router
[20:28] <Androidfan647> does anyone here have knowledge of the bluetooth dial up network
[20:28] <craniumslows> alket: do you have mac filtering / what encryption are you using?
[20:29] <ZykoticK9> craniumslows, though alket is now gone -- disabling encryption and trying to connect would be a GREAT next step
[20:30] <craniumslows> Androidfan647: I don't have any experience but does this Setup Doc help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[20:30] <craniumslows> ZykoticK9: Thanks yeah I'm thinking its a router configuration type problem
[20:30] <Arch_NME> is there a way to open a file in gedit from the gui with admin privleges?
[20:30] <craniumslows> Setup a launcher maybe?
[20:31] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, "gksu gedit /path/to/file"
[20:31] <Arch_NME> well I mean from the gui
[20:31] <Arch_NME> without having to go into terminal and type stuff
[20:31] <laristech> Does anyone know of a dell server with raid 1 that works perfectly with Ubuntu server?
[20:31] <Arch_NME> like a htokey or something
[20:31] <drbongo> Hi I have a strange problem with the terminal
[20:31] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, don't fear the terminal :)
[20:31] <Arch_NME> I don't I'm just lazy
[20:32] <drbongo> I can't type the character 'e' unless I press insert first
[20:32] <histo> Arch_NME: gksu gedit filename
[20:32] <histo> Arch_NME: youc an just use nano in a terminal also
[20:32] <drbongo> If I press e it just beeps, no character is written
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> histo, that was my suggestion - which was shot down
[20:32] <histo> ahh
[20:32] <drbongo> This also happens in xterm
[20:32] <Arch_NME> I was hoping just to click stuff
[20:33] <Arch_NME> like "run as.."
[20:33] <histo> Arch_NME: there is no way that I know of to just click to get root priveleges.
[20:33] <drbongo> Can anyone help?
[20:33] <histo> Arch_NME: Let me do some searching
[20:33] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, if you really wanted you could create a new launch with "gksu gedit" as the command (probably not the best idea however)
[20:33] <histo> Arch_NME: I know what you mean now like the windows run as... diaglog
[20:33] <Arch_NME> oh I can google it myself I just thought one of you all might know offhand
[20:33] <Canonical> open http://www.ubuntu.org
[20:34] <drbongo> I use gksu nautilus
[20:34] <ZykoticK9> Canonical, do you have a question?  or are you just advertising for ubuntu?
[20:34] <Arch_NME> Zykotick: that's even more hassle
[20:34] <histo> Arch_NME: the easier way would be hit alt+f2 and gksu gedit
[20:34] <ZykoticK9> !tab > Arch_NME
[20:35] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, for someone who wants to be lazy you need to start getting lazy in the console/irc channel -- typing ZykoticK9 is a drag, Zy(TAB) is the lazy/smart way to do it ;)
[20:35] <Arch_NME> ZykoticK9: yes yes
[20:35] <histo> Arch_NME: looks liek the nautilus-gksu package is what you want
[20:35] <ilumi> i have a problem with a webcam, its is installed, has a driver, and it works, but only with flash(in the webbrowser), however things like kopete and other webcam software doesnt see it
[20:35] <ZykoticK9> histo, +1 forgot about that
[20:36] <Arch_NME> it's just instinct my fingers move faster than my brain
[20:36] <ZykoticK9> Arch_NME, look into histo's suggestion - probably exactly what you want
[20:36] <histo> Arch_NME: install nautilus-gksu then restart X
[20:37] <histo> Arch_NME: it adds admin priveleges to the context menu
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> nautilus-open-terminal is also VERY handy, lets you right click Open in Terminal
[20:38] <Arch_NME> histo:  idk, maybe it's a bad idea, I'd hate to form a habit of a way to do thigns that will only work on this comp, I guess I should just use the terminal
[20:38] <histo> Arch_NME: no its your computer to customize as you see fit
[20:38] <histo> Arch_NME: it just adds a link int he right click menu to open as administrator
[20:39] <Arch_NME> yeah that's exactly what I wanted
[20:39] <histo> Arch_NME: not really a bad Idea its what ever works for you.
[20:39] <histo> !best
[20:39] <drbongo> Can anyone help with a gnome-terminal question?
[20:40] <No_Soul> quick off-topic question (sort of)   I'm a programmer and am looking for suggestions for programs to make....   got any ideas? :)
[20:40] <maximus_> hey ppl, is ther any application similar to itunes for linux, i need to perform file copy and all tat to my ipod
[20:40] <histo> !ask | drbongo
[20:40] <histo> No_Soul: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:40] <histo> maximus_: rhythmbox
[20:41] <histo> maximus_: applications > sound & video > rhythmbo
[20:41] <drbongo> OK - I can't type an 'e' in gnome terminal - works in other apps - just beeps in terminal, unless I press insert first
[20:41] <maximus_> thanks histo, i ll check it
[20:41] <akashv> !nat
[20:41] <craniumslows> rhythmbox is your best bet but it hates my podcasts
[20:41] <histo> drbongo: system > preferences > keyboard make sure you layout isn't goofy
[20:41] <akashv> how do i set up NAT in ubuntu server?
[20:42] <histo> craniumslows: maximus_ new version coming out in lucid supports ipod 3g touch and iphone
[20:42] <histo> !nat | akashv
[20:42] <craniumslows> histo: thanks for the update sounds sweet
[20:42] <histo> !firewall > akashv
[20:42] <drbongo> Keyboard layout is UK, I can type 'e' in other apps just not a terminal or xterm
[20:42] <maximus_> histo: tat would be great
[20:42] <histo> craniumslows: it works a lot better from what i've played with.
[20:42] <Losha> No_Soul: check out http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[20:43] <drbongo> This happened after I install some text tools, but no idea which one or why
[20:43] <histo> drbongo: is there a super key stuck?
[20:43] <histo> drbongo: what sort of text tools
[20:43] <drbongo> Negative, all keys work correctly except 'e' in a terminal - very strange it beeps
[20:44] <drbongo> Lots of text tools, too many to list, I have used them all before but not encounterd this issue
[20:44] <ZykoticK9> drbongo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=499601 has the same issue - but just used a new account to fix, so no real sollution
[20:44] <Losha> drbongo: odd. Do you know when you installed the text tools? There should be a complete chronological log of package installs in /var/log/dpkg.log...
[20:44] <histo> ZykoticK9: maybe somthing in his .bashrc?
[20:45] <ZykoticK9> histo, perhaps?  I really don't know.
[20:45] <histo> drbongo: I found a bug hold up
[20:46] <histo> drbongo: someone fixed it by editng the shortcuts in gnome terminal and the paste key was bound to super+e for some reason they changed it to ctrl+shift+e and it fixed it.
[20:46] <Losha> !nat
[20:46] <drbongo> Thanks I will try that!
[20:47] <histo> drbongo: bug #370069
[20:47] <histo> bug #370069 | drbongo
[20:47] <ZykoticK9> Losha, !nat isn't working...
[20:47] <histo> hrm... usually ubottu intereprets the bugs ah well
[20:47] <Losha> ZykoticK9: I see that. Is ubottu malfunctioning currently?
[20:48] <ZykoticK9> Losha, says it doesn't know anything about nat
[20:48] <ZykoticK9> Losha, other commands are working?
[20:48] <histo> Losha: no there is no entry for nat just for firewall
[20:48] <drbongo> Negative, gnome-terminal keybindings for cut and paste set to default ctrl+shift+c/v
[20:49] <histo> Losha: was it you that wanted info on a nat gateway?
[20:49] <Losha> histo: actually, it was akashv. I was just curious to see what the nat entry said...
[20:50] <histo> akashv: you is that the info you wanted that ubottu sent or are you trying to share your internet connection?
[20:50] <histo> !ics | akashv
[20:51] <Patronick> quit
[20:51] <ZykoticK9> Losha, it must have been ics that you where thinking of, I don't have any !nat in my recorded factoids
[20:51] <drbongo> Sorry lost the connection - I have checked the console mode and 'e' doesn't work their either!
[20:52] <Losha> histo: ZykoticK9: might be nice if ops added a ubottu alias nat for firewall...
[20:52] <ZykoticK9> drbongo, do you have another user that you can test with?
[20:52] <ZykoticK9> Losha, agreed
[20:53] <craniumslows> Just an off the wall idea what about a touch type tutor
[20:53] <histo> Losha: you can add one or suggest it
[20:54] <drbongo> I can create another account - just tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup - no joy keyboard layout was UK
[20:55] <ZykoticK9> drbongo, does upper case E work?
[20:55] <drbongo> The 'e' works when asked for a password! But not when typing normally
[20:55] <histo> Losha: atleast you used to be able to with ubotu
[20:55] <histo> drbongo: did you chenge the keyboard shortcut?
[20:55] <drbongo> Yes the uppercase E does work
[20:55] <histo> drbongo: its eactly the same behavior as that bug
[20:55] <drbongo> Did I change the keyboard shortcut for what?
[20:55] <craniumslows> This is a most interesting issue.
[20:56] <histo> drbongo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/370069
[20:56] <histo> drbongo: the keyboard shortcut for paste as super+e
[20:56] <histo> drbongo: if you change to ctrl+shift+e your e should come back according to that bug
[20:57] <sweb> i install php5-dev
[20:57] <drbongo> I will try that!
[20:57] <sweb> where is the `phpize`
[20:57] <sweb> ?
[20:58] <drbongo> No that didn't work - I will create another user account
[20:58] <akashv> histo, Losha: It worked. Thanks. :)
[20:58] <hnd> C help
[20:59] <histo> Losha: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins#Aliasing_one_factoid_to_another
[20:59] <histo> askhl: what worked?
[20:59] <hnd> get_info() in struct proc_dir_entry... wht does it do
[21:00] <histo> akashv: what worked
[21:00] <histo> askhl: sorry wrong user I was trying to get akashv
[21:00] <Losha> histo: I spoke to ops. They told me to type /msg ubottu nat is <alias> firewall and the change would be reviewed, so it's in progress, thanks...
[21:00] <akashv> histo: nat
[21:00] <histo> Losha: yeah I was just sending you the link for usage.
[21:01] <histo> akashv: cool
[21:01] <computa_mike> Hi guys - have a packaging question.  I'm packaging a java application for Ubuntu - and I got it all working (mostly) but I can't get the menu option to appear...  Anyone got any ideas?
[21:01] <Losha> histo: I appreciate it, thanks.
[21:01] <varun_> hello people
[21:01] <jared_1> Had a quick question for you guys.  I'd like to build a simple home server since it's something I've been without for way too long (I've been so lucky to never lose data ... yet).  Anyways I'll probably be doing basic stuff... File server, FTP, simple webserver....But I would like a graphical environment (kde, gnome, etc) for VNC.  What hardware would you recommend to run a raid 1 or raid 0+1 (4 drives).  Trying to keep it affordable but
[21:01] <Cool_Nick> What do i have to do to xp professional to allow ubuntu to conenct to a share?  (I reinstalled first time in 4 yrs and cant remember)
[21:02] <jared_1> just looking for mobo / raid controller / proc
[21:02] <varun_> I did not try earlier and I found after a couple of months that my cd drive is not working in ubuntu
[21:02] <drbongo_> New user account didn't make the 'e' work in a terminal either
[21:02] <varun_> anyone who could give me a few pointers
[21:02] <histo> jared_1: any processor will do as far as raid you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server they may have more knowledge abou what is working withthe least issues.
[21:02] <jared_1> ah sorry for the mistake
[21:02] <histo> Cool_Nick: you are trying to share from windows to ubuntu?
[21:02] <jared_1> thanks histo
[21:02] <craniumslows> varun_, just ask aloud i'm sure someone will help ya
[21:03] <varun_> I have done
[21:03] <Cool_Nick> histo, correct (guest account enables..share created.  guest has permission to share and ntfs security)
[21:03] <histo> jared_1: they just have more experience with raid than people in here but someone may answer
[21:03] <varun_> cd rw drive not working ubuntu intrepid
[21:03] <varun_> help
[21:03] <histo> Cool_Nick: then you should be able to see it Places > Network
[21:03] <varun_> anone
[21:03] <sweb> i install php5-dev ... where is the `phpize` ???
[21:03] <craniumslows> varun_, does it not play audio or doesnt show in computer?
[21:03] <varun_> I can read from it
[21:03] <varun_> dvds and cds
[21:03] <Cool_Nick> histo, I see the computer...but it keeps asking for username and password and domain
[21:04] <varun_> but I inserted a rw cd and it does not detect
[21:04] <hnd> craniumslows: i asked no one hears me... :(
[21:04] <histo> Cool_Nick: You need to change your sharing options in windows then if you don't want to supply user pass and domain. Make it part of a workgroup people in #windows would probably be able to help you set up the share.
[21:04] <Losha> jared_1: I think they are 2 separate issues. You can run a simple server environment on a desktop as long as you don't require amazing performance. And you can have some kind of backup scheme ranging from simple disk copies to some kind of raid scheme. The two issues seem orthogonal to me...
[21:04] <mertle> varun_: that's 'cause there's nothing on the disk right?
[21:04] <varun_> the one thing that I see in error messages for gnomebaker is wodim does not support the cd writer
[21:04] <craniumslows> hnd, ask again i dont see ya on the screen
[21:05] <varun_> ya there is nothing on the cd
[21:05] <jared_1> they are, just want experience...I've ran many servers without any graphical environment hah
[21:05] <jared_1> just decided to try it out finally
[21:05] <hnd> get_info() in struct proc_dir_entry wht does it do
[21:05] <histo> jared_1: yeah its not a big deal to run the same packages with a gui on top.
[21:06] <drbongo_> I have found the problem by using bind -p : the "e" is not set to self-insert I will try to set it
[21:06] <histo> jared_1: but for the hardware i have no clue never played with raid
[21:06] <varun_> I also tried installing imgburn in wine and trying but it is also not detecting the writing medium
[21:07] <craniumslows> drbongo_, this is one gnarly problem
[21:07] <bastid_raZor> varun_: you're trying to burn an img file?
[21:07] <craniumslows> varun_, have you tried other brands of media / do commercial disks load properly?
[21:07] <szimmer> hi
[21:07] <craniumslows> hi
[21:07] <drbongo_> Got it - by typing bind e:self-insert it is fixed - now I have to work out what caused it
[21:07] <szimmer> can anyone here help me to set up my cron?
[21:08] <bastid_raZor> !cron | szimmer here is a howto
[21:08] <craniumslows> hnd, why are you digging in proc? It's probably documented somewhere
[21:08] <varun_> It reads from any brand of cd which has something on it
[21:08] <varun_> sony or moserbaer
[21:08] <roberto99> just a test text
[21:08] <hnd> hi
[21:08] <szimmer> well... i read this already...
[21:08] <szimmer> but it's somehow not working very well...
[21:09] <craniumslows> varun_, I would think its your media
[21:09] <szimmer> otherwise i wouldn't come and bother you...
[21:09] <ubuntu__> hello everyone
[21:09] <craniumslows> hi ubuntu__
[21:09] <drbongo_> Ok that only works temporarily - to make it stick I would have to put it in /etc/inputrc
[21:10] <craniumslows> szimmer, what do you want to do with cron?
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> craniumslows, you're like the "Walmart Greater" for #ubuntu right now ;)
[21:10] <ubuntu__> trying to fix an install ran LILO and my HD won't boot anymore, I've made a fresh install but it won't boot
[21:10] <szimmer> i want to check that the sshd daemon is running and restart it if it's killed...
[21:10] <brontosaurusrex> how weird is to run kate on gnome?
[21:10] <ubuntu__> I'm booting thru a Pendrive, I can see the HD (USB external), its all in there, but won't boot
[21:10] <derenrich_> help with error "relocation error: /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0: symbol __abort_msg, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference"
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> ubuntu__, LILO really?  How old school.
[21:11] <hnd_> craniumslows: am into kernel hacking these days... just started to get my hands wet
[21:11] <szimmer> so i have setup my crontab
[21:11] <pcm_> hello
[21:11] <hnd_> hello
[21:11] <szimmer> but it's not executing it properly...
[21:11] <craniumslows> ZykoticK9, i get into that mode sometimes
[21:11] <Losha> hnd: you might ask one of the contributors listed here: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/git-commits-head/2008/4/29/1655584
[21:11] <craniumslows> hi pcm_
[21:11] <mertle> brontosaurusrex: not too weird - it will be slow to start as the kdelibs will have to be loaded
[21:11] <pcm_> i have a problem with ubuntu configuration
[21:11] <craniumslows> szimmer, webmin has a nice webbased gui to cron shtuff
[21:12] <ZykoticK9> !webmin
[21:12] <pcm_> is it here for help?
[21:12] <brontosaurusrex> mertle: should be stable once going?
[21:12] <craniumslows> Thanks
[21:12] <mertle> brontosaurusrex: sure - the kdelibs should be installed as deps but it should be fine
[21:12] <szimmer> sorry but i don't think i can follow... what is ebox?
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> pcm_, yes - but you need to give some details of your issue
[21:13] <j_> question about reinstalling Ubuntu . I have home partation and / partation. so if i reinstall all my setting is auto matically save to /home?
[21:13] <pcm_> yeah sure
[21:13] <ubuntu__> any clues on how to have it fixed or should I just get the HD to the trash can?
[21:13] <luis_> I need help urgently pls: how I can install sopcast plugin into firefox?!
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> szimmer, i don't personally recommend ebox actually - but i recommend you DON'T use Webmin
[21:13] <luis_> I need help urgently pls: how I can install sopcast plugin into firefox?!
[21:13] <Losha> !ebox | szimmer
[21:13] <Flannel> ubuntu__: why are you trying to use lilo?
[21:13] <karim_frl> HELLO
[21:13] <pcm_> so i have a ubuntu 9.10 on a fuijitsu siemens right now, and i have some sound problems
[21:13] <drbongo_> Looks like it might have been caused by wyrd or screen - I will uninstall and see if this fixes things
[21:14] <ubuntu__> trying to fix an install ran LILO and my HD won't boot anymore, I've made a fresh install but it won't boot.  I'm booting thru a Pendrive, I can see the HD (USB external), its all in there, but won't boot
[21:14] <varun_> @craniumslow you might be right but the thing is that the cd drive itself is not detected in gnomebaker when I try to begin a writing.The message is no writing drive detected
[21:14] <mertle> j_: your configs should be in your /home /user folder already as dot files
[21:14] <szimmer> but it should be really straightforward... i have my crontab setup but somehow it's not executing it....
[21:14] <szimmer> though it should...
[21:14] <Flannel> szimmer: Do you have a blank line at the end of your crontab?
[21:14] <pcm_> sound doesnt work with jack output
[21:14] <szimmer> pcm what kind of pc?
[21:15] <craniumslows> szimmer, you might grab a GUI frontend i've jumped to that after too many stupid typos have ruined a good nigths sleeep
[21:15] <Heebie> Hello.  I just installed xen.. and now my desktop won't start.. either in "low graphics mode" or a regular start.  Is there a program I can call from the command-line to reset X to using standard drivers?
[21:15] <hnd> ok so am playing with procfs... wht does get_info() in struct proc_dir_entry do???
[21:15] <pcm_> fuijitsu siemens li 1705
[21:15] <ZykoticK9> Heebie, move the current /etc/X11/xorg.conf to another name, then try restarting X
[21:16] <Heebie> ZykoticK9: Thanks. I'll give that  shot. :)
[21:16] <Losha> szimmer: do you have cron entries in /var/log/syslog that show crontab is executing your commands?
[21:16] <Lxndr> I have five *.doc files. I want to compile them into a single pdf. How can I do this?
[21:16] <Losha> hnd: did you see my message above?
[21:16] <craniumslows> hnd, * "get_info" is called at "read", while "owner" is used to protect module
[21:16] <craniumslows>  * from unloading while proc_dir_entry is in use
[21:16] <szimmer> actually yes...
[21:16] <craniumslows> hnd, http://man.developpez.com/include/linux/proc_fs.php
[21:16] <szimmer> i think the blank line did the trick
[21:17] <nealmcb> I'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix on a dell inspiron mini 1012.  I'd like to live boot it from an sdcard - is that possible?  E.g. could I use unetbootin to put the iso on /dev/mmcblk0  as a live boot?
[21:17] <pcm_> sound ok from speakers
[21:17] <hnd> yaay :D thnx craniumslows!!!
[21:17] <Flannel> szimmer: One way to 'enforce' that is to add a comment at the end saying "# DONT PUT ANYTHING BELOW THIS" and then include a blank line under it
[21:17] <dannek7> hey all
[21:17] <craniumslows> hi
[21:18] <hnd> hey
[21:18] <zdene> Does anyone know a FOSS utility to browse a PDF's internal structure? in a tree view of objects or something?
[21:18] <pepper_haze> does anyone here know how to get the device name of their webcam and mic?
[21:18] <kermit> why is it that everytime i write to a loop device, the device changes ownership to root?
[21:18] <szimmer> lsusb?
[21:18] <szimmer> pepper_haze -> lsusb
[21:18] <pepper_haze> lsusb doesn't work for me
[21:18] <Lxndr> I have five *.doc files. I want to compile them into a single pdf. How can I do this?
[21:18] <craniumslows> pepper_haze, dmesg ?
[21:19] <pepper_haze> i'll try dmesg
[21:19] <luis_> I need urgent help pls: how I can install sopcast plugin into firefox????!!!!
[21:19] <szimmer> yay the blank line did the trick thanks FLANNEL!
[21:19] <ra21vi> my server currently has Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy) .. I need to upgrade it to 8.10 then 9.04 then 9.10 .. I only have access to ssh command line .. how can I upgrade it
[21:19] <pcm_> so anyone?
[21:19] <zaxonspox> @Lxndr use OpenOffice and export to PDF
[21:20] <Improviz> Ubuntu newb here. Trying to repurpose older Dell for disabled friend with Ubuntu. Installed but get "cannot get C/H/S values" on bootup
[21:20] <Flannel> ra21vi: Why do you want to do that?  Just wait a month then upgrade straight to 10.04
[21:20] <craniumslows> pcm_, i haven't been following closely have you tried diff dvds/cd rws
[21:20] <Losha> ra21vi: tricky, since you might lose connectivity during an upgrade and never be able to get it back. Why do you need to upgrade anyway?
[21:20] <ra21vi> Flannel: can I upgrade directly from 8.04 to 10.04 (no reinstallation possible since server is remote)
[21:20] <Flannel> ra21vi: You can, yes.
[21:21] <derenrich_> how do i view pdf using less?
[21:21] <Flannel> ra21vi: And once 10.04 is released, the instructions will be linked from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:21] <pcm_> well sound is ok on speakers but not headphones output for nothing
[21:21] <ra21vi> Losha: means? why should I not upgrade ?? anyway, I need a lot new things.
[21:21] <szimmer> derenrich: why would you want to do that?
[21:21] <pepper_haze> how do you read dmesg?
[21:21] <craniumslows> pcm_, so is it an unamplified channel?
[21:21] <derenrich_> szimmer: there is a plugin that renders it nicely
[21:22] <derenrich_> szimmer: i just don't know what package it's in
[21:22] <craniumslows> pepper_haze,  you might redirecto output its long
[21:22] <Losha> ra21vi: the problem with remove upgrades remains: you might lose connectivity during the upgrade and never be able to get it back...
[21:22] <Lxndr> zaxonspox: I can do that with *one* doc file. But how do I turn these five doc files into a *single* PDF? That's where I get lost.
[21:22] <Losha> ra21vi: remove -> remote
[21:22] <ra21vi> Flannel: thanks :)  I will wait then..
[21:22] <hnd> peppr_haze: cat /var/log/dmesg
[21:22] <szimmer> or just dmesg
[21:22] <Flannel> Losha: there's no reason to think that'll happen
[21:22] <mertle> derenrich: try in terminal   apt-cache search pdf   it should show up
[21:22] <craniumslows> all this rum has got me swetting
[21:22] <pcm_> craniumslows, i dont think so dont realy know how to check that out
[21:22] <Losha> Flannel: except for Murphy's law, you mean...
[21:23] <Blastur> hello. if i upgrade to lucid beta 2 today, will it be a problem to upgrade it to lucid final later on?
[21:23] <Flannel> Losha: If we wanted to go by that, no one should ever upgrade, ever.
[21:23] <ra21vi> Losha: cannot you use Screen for such problem?
[21:23] <Flannel> Blastur: Nope, you'll just use regular daily updates.  #ubuntu+1 is the channel for Lucid Support though.
[21:23] <zaxonspox> @Lxndr Y need to import 5 doc into one file in Writer
[21:23] <hnd> Blastur nopes... i dont think so...
[21:23] <Improviz> Any ideas on the C/H/S values issue? It's something bout looking for my floppy or some such I think. Trying fix with Grub fix on Live CD
[21:23] <craniumslows> pcm_, if its the same plug you are plugging into you should look into your sound preferences
[21:24] <hiexpo> but ya cant take it back if ya decide ya dontlike it
[21:24] <hnd> Improviz: whts the exact situation
[21:24] <Losha> Flannel: nevertheless, the risk is there for a remote upgrade, and ra21vi should understand what his worst case scenario might be...
[21:24] <pcm_> craniumslows, speakers are not pluged, they are buit-in, its a laptop
[21:24] <Improviz> Installed 9.04 I believe, wiped the drive and did the install. Now when it boots, I get a grub error and "Cannot read C/H/S values"
[21:24] <Flannel> Losha: The risk is there for any upgrade. I'm not sure how it being remote is a big deal.  There's even a secondary ssh channel opened during upgrades.
[21:25] <craniumslows> pcm_, you should go tot he sound preferences
[21:25] <pepper_haze> craniumslows, how do you redirecto output?
[21:25] <pcm_> craniumslows, ive done that and cant realy se what is wrong
[21:25] <hnd> ok try e2fsck might be due to some filesystem error
[21:25] <craniumslows> pepper_haze, do dmesg > somefile.txt; gedit somefile.txt
[21:26] <craniumslows> pepper_haze, then you can look through it
[21:26] <craniumslows> pepper_haze, its all the kernel msgs
[21:26] <Improviz> I'm on the machine in question now, running from Live CD
[21:26] <craniumslows> pepper_haze, you should be able to find your device there if its found
[21:26] <craniumslows> pcm_, under hardware do you have more than 1 option
[21:26] <Jadoza> anyone feeling like sharing a nice conky setup? :)
[21:26] <hnd> Improviz: e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/<your ubuntu drive>
[21:26] <ra21vi> Flannel and Losha : for such problem, if it happens, I can pick my phone, dial the datacenter no. and ask them to do remaining things :)