[04:03] <pppoe_dude> maybe one that behaves well with firewalls/NAT
[04:03] <theCore> strokey: then configure your card with
[04:04] <zcat[1] > amule ?
[04:04] <Nino> wireless still isnt working can anyone coni
[04:04] <Nino> *can anyone confirm theintel 2200BG works with ununtu without needing to install anyting else?
[04:04] <pppoe_dude> zcat[1] , amule is slow (very)
[04:04] <cheryl> hehehehehehe
[04:04] <pppoe_dude> and i dont think its anonymous
[04:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please email me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[04:04] <theCore> strokey: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid name_of_AP (the name you found by using iwlist wlan0 scan)
[04:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> i lost mine
[04:05] <theCore> strokey: iwconfig wlan0 enc <key> (fill out your WEP key (if you have one))
[04:05] <pppoe_dude> BROKEN_LADDER, y'd you get banned from #math?
[04:05] <ebrgy> hi..
[04:05] <theCore> strokey: sudo dhclient wlan0 (gets a dynamic IP adress)
[04:05] <ebrgy> hi..assl pls.
[04:05] <theCore> strokey: sudo ping -c 3 www.google.com (tests the connection)
[04:06] <ebrgy> hi..
[04:06] <theCore> strokey: that all
[04:06] <ebrgy> hi
[04:06] <ebrgy> hi..
[04:07] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5029
[04:07] <Bac9> tali: ping
[04:07] <theCore> strokey: if you need wpa follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31418&highlight=wpa
[04:07] <intmainvoid> Anyone want to help me? =D
[04:08] <strokey> theCore i cant view websites atm
[04:08] <strokey> :E
[04:08] <theCore> strokey : do you need wpa ?
[04:08] <strokey> wpa?
[04:09] <theCore> strokey : wpa encryption
[04:09] <mcadory> intmainvoid: just ask
[04:09] <strokey> i dont use encryption on my wireless network
[04:09] <dunstabulos> strokey: how is your wireless network protected?  does it use WEP or WPA or something else?
[04:09] <intmainvoid> mcadory:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5028   Why won't it draw?
[04:10] <Antioch> Is nexenta related to ubuntu at all_
[04:10] <strokey> dunstabulos: nothing
[04:11] <strokey> its just a router ;o
[04:11] <theCore> intmainvoid: it a quite tough question you should post it in a opengl newsgroup or something similiar
[04:11] <Nino> can i jump on the wireless bandwagon, intel pro 2200BG + unsecured network
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> 2
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> ruiop[
[04:11] <intmainvoid> theCore I tried that before and you were going to help me.
[04:11] <theCore> strokey: so your okay
[04:11] <strokey> so i do all that
[04:11] <strokey> and it should connect?
[04:11] <mcadory> intmainvoid: i agree with theCore
[04:12] <theCore> intmainvoid: I don't have the OpenGL dev libaries
[04:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> thanks dude bimberi
[04:12] <dunstabulos> strokey: yup
[04:12] <theCore> intmainvoid: so I can't compile it
[04:12] <zenlunatic_> whats a good nes emulator?
[04:12] <JonnyRo> Anyone here using the banshee player?  On my system banshee freezes up indefinately when loading an 8 gig folder for import
[04:13] <Nino> strokey what card do you have?
[04:13] <theCore> strokey: yep
[04:13] <kvantti> i have problems with the bittornado client..the opensuse torrent worked fine yeasterday but now the client tells me it can't listen
[04:13] <JonnyRo> i'm trying to figure out if i'm doing something wrong
[04:13] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: np :)
[04:13] <kvantti> zenlunatic zsnes
[04:13] <pppoe_dude> is jabber.org down?
[04:13] <zenlunatic_> kvantti: NES emulator
[04:13] <zenlunatic_> kvantti: not s
[04:13] <JonnyRo> pppoe_dude, i'm logged into it right now
[04:14] <drcode> any one have idea why after 10 min , static route I put is gone ?
[04:14] <strokey> Nino
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, my guess would be that dhclient3 is still running
[04:14] <intmainvoid> !huggggg
[04:14] <strokey> Yakumo QuickWLAN USB
[04:14] <ubotu> intmainvoid: I give up, what is it?
[04:14] <intmainvoid> (
[04:14] <intmainvoid> =(
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, and wiping it out every time it refreshes
[04:14] <Nino> ah right
[04:14] <drcode> I Have dhcpclient
[04:14] <drcode> it come by defult
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, you cant use static routes with dhcp
[04:14] <drcode> I See
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, at least not easily
[04:14] <JonnyRo> drcode, just hardcode your ip address
[04:14] <adeen> does anyone know what bitdepth Breezy ships with by default, or how to find out?
[04:14] <drcode> I will uninstall it
[04:15] <drcode> I use static IP address
[04:15] <theCore> intmainvoid: see, even the bot give up
[04:15] <JonnyRo> drcode, no need to uninstall, just use static ip from the network control panel, then reboot
[04:15] <gar-1> ok fist i did the upgrade to breezy reboot now the interface dont come out only the login console that is im using a nvidia gforce 2 go any clue
[04:15] <drcode> I have static IP address
[04:15] <drcode> not dhcp
[04:15] <adeen> sorry, display colour depth
[04:15] <intmainvoid> theCore:  I don't get it. It's exactly the same as the thing that I modded it from. all I got rid of was the extra functions. Lame
[04:15] <JonnyRo> drcode, if dhclient isnt running, then that's not why your static routes disappear
[04:16] <drcode> k
[04:16] <drcode> so any idea?
[04:16] <gar-1> ok fist i did the upgrade to breezy reboot now the interface dont come out only the login console that is im using a nvidia gforce 2 go any clue
[04:16] <drcode> JonnyRo,  I can send what I installed
[04:16] <JonnyRo> drcode, just do this.  ps -A | grep dhclient
[04:16] <JonnyRo> drcode, if it's not running, then i have no idea why your routes are disappearing
[04:16] <dunstabulos> adeen look in your xorg.conf
[04:16] <drcode>  2974 ?        00:01:21 dhclient3
[04:16] <drcode> it is running
[04:16] <drcode> strange
[04:16] <RedRose> the shadow file houses the password, right?
[04:16] <gar-1> ok fist i did the upgrade to breezy reboot now the interface dont come out only the login console that is im using a nvidia gforce 2 go any clue
[04:17] <dunstabulos> adeen: it should have a section on the display giving the colour depths
[04:17] <theCore> intmainvoid: can you compile the original
[04:17] <JonnyRo> drcode, yea, usually that wouldnt be running unless dhcp was configured in your ubuntu network control panel
[04:17] <drcode> I Use xfce
[04:17] <intmainvoid> theCore:   Yeah
[04:17] <RedRose> the shadow file houses the password, right?
[04:17] <intmainvoid> theCore: It draws and everything, tool.
[04:17] <drcode> is there gui in console that I can config network?
[04:17] <benguin> hello
[04:17] <drcode> so jonmasters U seggest to uninstall it ?
[04:17] <JonnyRo> drcode, there is a file called /etc/network/interfaces
[04:17] <Bac9> tali: ping
[04:17] <drcode> k
[04:18] <gar-1> !upgrade
[04:18] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:18] <JonnyRo> drcode, you have to configure that file in a text editor for static
[04:18] <theCore> intmainvoid: pastebin the original, I will try again
[04:18] <drcode> a min
[04:18] <JonnyRo> drcode, view the man page, by typing man interfaces
[04:18] <RedRose> the shadow file houses the password, right?
[04:18] <benguin> RedRose: it does, but encrypted
[04:18] <intmainvoid> theCore:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5030
[04:18] <pbransford> I enabled the root account... can I get ubuntu to stop asking MY password and ask for Root's instead?
[04:18] <benguin> anyone uses skype here?
[04:19] <drcode> k
[04:19] <JonnyRo> pbransford, have you set a different password for root already?
[04:19] <dunstabulos> pbransford: sudo visudo
[04:19] <nickrud> pbransford, no, sudo always uses the user's password
[04:19] <drcode> I Have this line
[04:19] <drcode> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:19] <Madpilot> pbransford: all the graphical tools are designed to be used w/ sudo
[04:19] <dunstabulos> lets you edit the sudoers file
[04:19] <pbransford> Yes, I set the root password
[04:19] <RedRose> benguin:i know it's encrypted, MD5 right?
[04:19] <drcode> to switch it to iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:19] <pbransford> I do not wish to use sudo at all if I can
[04:19] <drcode> to switch it to #iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:19] <theCore> intmainvoid: i will do my best
[04:20] <dunstabulos> pbransford: this may not be recommended, however
[04:20] <gar-1> ok fist i did the upgrade to breezy reboot now the interface dont come out only the login console that is im using a nvidia gforce 2 go any clue
[04:20] <JonnyRo> drcode, you actually need to comment that line and add a few others, all the info you need is in the interfaces man page
[04:20] <gar-1> Zedugh: you there?
[04:20] <drcode> or this auto eth0
[04:20] <RedRose> benguin:i know it's encrypted, MD5 right?
[04:20] <Zedugh> gar-1, yup
[04:20] <nickrud> pbransford, then, use su, that will ask for your root password and give you a root login
[04:20] <JonnyRo> drcode, see line 33 of the manual page
[04:20] <intmainvoid> theCore: Thanks..
[04:20] <benguin> RedRose: just checked, doesnt looklike md5
[04:20] <drcode> after that I can restart my interface with out reboot?
[04:20] <benguin> so, I'm really not sure
[04:20] <gar-1> Zedugh: i did the upgrade but the desktop dont come out after the reboot what can i do?
[04:20] <pbransford> nickrud, all the graphical tools ask for MY password. I don't want that.
[04:20] <JonnyRo> drcode, probably yea
[04:20] <RedRose> then what does it look like?
[04:20] <psusi> RedRose, MD5 is a hash algorithm, not an encryption algorithm
[04:20] <JonnyRo> drcode, but i havent done it before
[04:20] <gar-1> Zedugh: the X dont come out
[04:20] <drcode> how?
[04:20] <kcskyl> hi could anyone help me with installing a PDA software to my ubuntu?
[04:21] <kcskyl> thanks in advance!
[04:21] <RedRose> ah... so the password is hashed, then encrypted?
[04:21] <nickrud> pbransford, that's how sudo works.
[04:21] <gar-> Zedugh: any clue?
[04:21] <kcskyl> any help would be appreciated.
[04:21] <dunstabulos> pbransford: you can change membership of the wheel group
[04:21] <kcskyl> :)
[04:21] <Nikyo> I just installed a Yamaha PCI sound card, but Unbuntu 5.10 system still has no sound, is there a manual way to do this, please..
[04:22] <benguin> kcskyl: what pda and what software?
[04:22] <dunstabulos> pbransford: hence limiting the use of sudo
[04:22] <bimberi> s/wheel/admin/
[04:22] <drcode> k
[04:22] <drcode> thanx alot
[04:22] <RedRose> benguin: ah... so the password is hashed, then encrypted?
[04:22] <Zedugh> gar-, login to the console, and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:22] <drcode> I Will do reboot after
[04:22] <JonnyRo> drcode, good luck
[04:22] <tawy> is there aplace where i can get help with setting up mynetwork? laptop>wrt54g->dsl modem-> net...  ?
[04:22] <dunstabulos> bimberi: ty
[04:22] <benguin> RedRose: I know its encrypted, but not all the details; sorry
[04:22] <gar-> ok and them i tell u
[04:22] <bimberi> dunstabulos: np (an ubuntu difference) :)
[04:22] <dunstabulos> bimberi: will teach me to type without thinking
[04:22] <RedRose> benguin:It's Ok, Ty for the help...
[04:22] <drcode> oopsss..
[04:22] <drcode> I forget
[04:22] <drcode> this is my internet card
[04:22] <intmainvoid> Shit, I have to go. See you later. theCore: Uhm..I'll only be gone for a couple..hours...?
[04:23] <dunstabulos> bimberi: i mostly use debian, but some ubuntu also
[04:23] <kcskyl> benguin, sorry 'bout the late response
[04:23] <intmainvoid> See you
[04:23] <drcode> so I MAST use DHCP
[04:23] <bimberi> dunstabulos: ah :)
[04:23] <drcode> I Am in cable modem
[04:23] <atrophic> tawy, what part do you need help with?
[04:23] <thompa> i noticed my game sound works if i type killall esd, do i need this?
[04:23] <kcskyl> benguin, went to go get my PDA...it's a tungsten E plam
[04:23] <benguin> RedRose: you;re welcome
[04:23] <drcode> so in dhcpclient I can fix static route?
[04:23] <theCore> intmainvoid: no prob
[04:23] <benguin> kcskyl: have the same thingy here
[04:23] <gar-> Zedugh: how do i open that dont have to be gedit? in console?
[04:23] <bimberi> pbransford: who is "they"
[04:23] <kcskyl> benguin, awesome!
[04:23] <nickrud> thompa, that's a pretty common solution for playing games
[04:23] <pbransford> if i removed myself from wheel, I can still "su" right? and what will those graphical toosl do? just plain out not work?
[04:23] <tawy> atrophic, im having issues getthing the outside workd to see my router so i can log in remotely.,.. i think i might have something misconfigured.
[04:23] <Zedugh> gar-, try 'less <filename>'
[04:23] <kcskyl> benguin, it's an awesome PDA...just can't install it to my computer...
[04:23] <gar-> ok
[04:23] <pbransford> bimberi, anyone but me... call me paranoid :)
[04:24] <nickrud> pbransford, yes, and yes
[04:24] <whitynz> Anyone had any luck in resizing a reiserFS partition?
[04:24] <tawy> atrophic, http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080 (but people are saying its not accessivbe) is?
[04:24] <benguin> kcskyl: whats up?
[04:24] <thompa> nickrud: does esd need to be running?
[04:24] <drcode> ./join #ipatables
[04:24] <benguin> kcskyl: what errors?
[04:24] <kcskyl> benguin, can you tell me how you installed it?
[04:24] <RedRose> Does Anyone Know What Kind Of Encryption The Shadow File Uses?
[04:24] <kcskyl> benguin, I have no idea where to start...
[04:24] <kcskyl> benguin, i though the install program would run automatically...
[04:24] <nickrud> thompa, it depends on the game :) a sec, I'll give you a link that makes esd play more nicely with non-gnome apps
[04:25] <Nikyo> Unbuntu 5.10, Yamaha PCI Sound Card, is there a app to make this work, please..
[04:25] <drcode> how I can use static route add and dhcpclient in one interface
[04:25] <pbransford> Is there any way to get my system to use something else, like blowfish, for password hashes?
[04:25] <mcadory> kcskyl: system>preferences>palmosdevices
[04:25] <kcskyl> mcadory, oh okay
[04:25] <benguin> kcskyl, yup.. mcadory has it
[04:25] <navarone> drcode> i think oyu missed your stop
[04:25] <thompa> nickrud: ok thanks,
[04:25] <atrophic> tawy, check your pm?
[04:25] <zenlunatic_> whats a good NES emulator?
[04:26] <benguin> kcskyl, the device is usually /dev/ttyUSB1
[04:26] <whitynz> nickrud, have you got it selected in your sound properties?
[04:26] <JonnyRo> pbransford, any specific reason you would want to use blowfish?
[04:26] <nickrud> thompa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary , the "general fix" ; this works on breezy as well
[04:26] <kcskyl> benguin, can you tell me what you mean by that?
[04:26] <thompa> nickrud: thanks
[04:26] <RedRose> Does Anyone Know What Kind Of Encryption The Shadow File Uses?
[04:26] <JonnyRo> pbransford, if your wanting to up the paranoia level, just go straight to kerberos
[04:26] <benguin> kcskyl, proceed with the tool and you'll know:)
[04:26] <kcskyl> mcadory, i've actually tried that before...and didn't seem to get anything except an empty folder
[04:26] <JonnyRo> pbransford, besides, blowfish is an encryption algorithm, not a hash tool
[04:26] <jesse_cool5> zenlunatic_, try zsnes ive used it before
[04:26] <benguin> bbl
[04:27] <zcat[1] > hmm. where is w32codecs ?
[04:27] <Howdy125> dvdrip
[04:27] <navarone> mmmm...hash tool
[04:27] <zenlunatic_> jesse_cool5: it works for nes games (not talking about snes games)
[04:27] <JonnyRo> zcat[1] , you'll have to download those from mplayerhq.hu, they arent in any repository
[04:27] <Madpilot> !tell zcat[1]  about w32codecs
[04:27] <RedRose> navarone:?
[04:27] <zcat[1] > they used to be :(
[04:27] <jesse_cool5> zenlunatic_, oh my mistake
[04:27] <pbransford> kerberos is broken... not safe to use
[04:27] <mcadory> kcskyl: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77387.html
[04:28] <navarone> Redrose> I'll see your "?" and raise a "!"
[04:28] <JonnyRo> pbransford, which version of kerberos do you consider broken?
[04:28] <pbransford> JonnyRo, not to spoil your fun... but SuSE 10 defaults to using blowfish for passwords...
[04:28] <jesse_cool5> zenlunatic_, have you tryed TuxNES?
[04:28] <JonnyRo> pbransford, does it use a sitewide key to do this?
[04:28] <pbransford> not sure
[04:29] <JonnyRo> pbransford, i stand corrected.  I didnt know blowfish could be used to generate a hash
[04:29] <kcskyl> mcadory, did you get all the software to run okay on your ubuntu?
[04:29] <kcskyl> mcadory, all the PDA software, i mean
[04:29] <pbransford> JonnyRo, im not sure how its done, but it lets me choose "MD5", the other common hash (forgot) and Blowfish
[04:29] <navarone> is png the atandard format for gnome desktop backgrounds?
[04:30] <pbransford> navarone, yea but jpgs and bmps draw fine in my experience
[04:30] <zcat[1] > didn't w32codecs and libdvdcss use to be in multiverse?
[04:30] <bimberi> pbransford: sorry, got called away, I just want to make sure that you know that sudo only works for the account created during install, other users don't get it by default
[04:30] <JonnyRo> zcat[1] , yea
[04:30] <JonnyRo> zcat[1] , or backports, i cant remember
[04:30] <navarone> phramford> as long they are proper resolution...??
[04:30] <nickrud> hoary backports, for a while
[04:30] <pbransford> bimberi, thats fine but still...
[04:30] <pbransford> oh well
[04:30] <pbransford> :D
[04:31] <mcadory> kcskyl: yup and with an old school palm iiix.  so i know it should work for you.  you probably need to read that link i just pasted.
[04:31] <pbransford> well, set my repos to breezy, now all i need is a good 2-3 hours to download it all
[04:31] <jesse_cool5> is there any good software to help me learn italian?
[04:32] <zcat[1] > and another three hours to answer 'N' whe it wants to replace all your old config
[04:32] <kcskyl> mcadory, oh okay.  Thanks!
[04:32] <nickrud> pbransford, I was just thinking, and you might be able to change the .desktop's for the admin guis to gksu. Might be some gotchas there, tho
[04:33] <pbransford> any way to force a refresh of my power source? i plugged in the AC about 10 minutes ago and everything thinks im still on battery
[04:33] <zcat[1] > dist-upgrade is slow and painful. I think it'd have been easier to backup my /home and do a clean install
[04:34] <GigaClon> can I get some in finding out what device is my modem
[04:34] <AceB747> anyone know why ubuntu locks up right after it installs grub?
[04:34] <kcskyl> mcadory, for some reason, i'm not seeing the option for /dev/ttyUSB1...all i see are /dev/pilot and /dev/ttyS0...can you tell me why this is the case?
[04:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> check this out ya'll..hilarious http://www.artcurry.com/Media/Video/Finals/SSA%20Final.avi
[04:35] <whitynz> Anyone had any luck in resizing a reiserFS partition?
[04:35] <kvantti> just how do i run azureus..the command azureus in the dir does nothing..do i need to chmod +x something?
[04:35] <gteppel> This may sound like a silly question, but I don't know much about wifi techonlogy. Is it possible to connect to a wireless device that is using wifi? For example my wired box is connect to a wirless router that has four wired connections also. My wife has her ibook and I'd like to connect to it from my wired desktop. Is this even possible?
[04:35] <GigaClon> kvantti, it should have made a menu entry
[04:36] <AceB747> kvanti, go in the azuerus director and type ./azuerus
[04:36] <kvantti> cool i got it now
[04:36] <kvantti> GigaClon had to run it from the gui
[04:36] <zcat[1] > gteppel: should be; just find out what IP the laptop got given.. wired and wireless are all just IP connections..
[04:36] <kcskyl> mcadory, i read over the website you gave me, and i think i could follow all the directions except i'm not seeing the option /dev/ttyUSB1 for some reason...  thanks for helping me with this, i'm a complete computer illiterate
[04:37] <AceB747> has anyone else besides me had problems with the intall locking up?
[04:37] <benoy> hi everyone
[04:37] <benoy> can anyone tell me how I can get the latest codecs for totem or vlc?
[04:38] <misguided> hey folks...
[04:38] <zcat[1] > AceB747: have installed Breezy on about five different boxes so far, never had it lock up yet.. so 'no'
[04:38] <intelikey> !tell benoy about codecs
[04:39] <misguided> question:  is there a way to disable hotplug on the live cd?  "live nohotplug" doesn't work for some reason
[04:39] <kvantti> GigaClon very nice software in linux too. the bittornado failed in downloading, azureus works
[04:39] <zcat[1] > codecs: http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:39] <jesse_cool5> benoy, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[04:39] <GigaClon> can i get help getting my modem detected and dialing
[04:39] <AceB747> zcat, i wonder what the problem is with the install then
[04:39] <kcskyl> mcadory, are you still there?
[04:39] <intelikey> GigaClon what kind of modem ?
[04:39] <zcat[1] > where's it hang?
[04:40] <mcadory> kcskyl: run "ls /dev/USB*" in a terminal while the device is plugged into the usb port and the palm is in the cradle.
[04:40] <pbransford> wtf! 'cat'ing /proc/acpi/... tells me that my battery is discharging, and ac is offline...
[04:40] <pbransford> but the lights on the laptop say my battery is charging...
[04:40] <kcskyl> mcadory, oh okay
[04:40] <pbransford> tried to restart both acpid and acpi-support in /etc/init.d but no change
[04:40] <GigaClon> don't have the exact name its a Conexant modem that came with my Dell Inspiron 5100
[04:41] <kvantti> btw, does gnome have a start menu folder like windows?
[04:41] <kcskyl> mcadory, it says "ls: /dev/USB*: No such file or directory"
[04:41] <benoy> I know that there is a starter guide for ubuntu ver. 5.04 is there one for 5.10
[04:41] <benoy> ?
[04:41] <paladinew> when I log into a failsafe gnome session, how do I get back into the normal GUI when I'm done?  What command do I type ?
[04:41] <mcadory> kcskyl: sorry: run "ls /dev/ttyUSB*" in a terminal while the device is plugged into the usb port and the palm is in the cradle.
[04:41] <kvantti> benoy just try installing your hardware and proceed to software installation .. worked fine for me as a tutorial
[04:42] <kvantti> benoy but then again, i have excellent kinetic learning skills
[04:42] <kcskyl> mcadory, it gave me an arrow ">"
[04:42] <mcadory> kcskyl: no quotes.
[04:42] <kcskyl> mcadory: right :)
[04:42] <benoy> are you talking about "add applications"? kvantti
[04:42] <benoy> ?
[04:43] <kcskyl> mcadory, same error...no such file or directory
[04:43] <mcadory> kcskyl: device powered up?
[04:43] <jesse_cool5> how does ubuntu go about writing to a ntfs partition? still ruin it most of the time?
[04:43] <GigaClon> is there a way to make my lcd turn off on lid close
[04:43] <misguided> does anybody know about hotplug???
[04:43] <kcskyl> yup
[04:43] <kcskyl> mcadory, yup
[04:43] <kcskyl> mcadory, i put it in hotsync,
[04:43] <mcadory> kcskyl: jsut a sec.
[04:44] <kcskyl> mcadory, and then typed that command in and got "/dev/ttyUSB0" and "/dev/ttyUSB1"
[04:44] <GigaClon> nm found the wiki page
[04:44] <kcskyl> mcadory, sorry...should've done that before
[04:44] <zcat[1] > about hotplug: if you unplug a USB sound device while it's playing, Breezy gives you quite an impressive Oops! and you have to reboot before USB will work again.
[04:44] <paladinew> what is the command to get back into default session when I'm logged into a failsafe terminal ??
[04:44] <nickrud> benoy, the help tool has the faqguide/starter guide
[04:44] <zcat[1] > .. found that out yesterday :)
[04:44] <misguided> i need to know how to disable hotplug on boot of a live cd...
[04:45] <pbransford> stupid HP. cant even conform to acpi
[04:45] <mcadory> kcskyl: one of those is the device node you need to point gnomepilot to in order to sync.
[04:45] <nickrud> paladinew, just type exit in the terminal, it should take you back to the login screen
[04:45] <intelikey> zcat[1]  file a bug on that.
[04:46] <kcskyl> mcadory: can you walk me through that?  have no idea how to do that
[04:46] <paladinew> nickrud: what about when I first turn my pc on and it goes directly to a failsafe terminal ?
[04:46] <kcskyl> mcadory, sorry for being such a pain
[04:46] <jesse_cool5> how does ubuntu go about writing to a ntfs partition? still ruin it most of the time?
[04:46] <nickrud> paladinew, then you probably have other problems
[04:46] <zcat[1] > I probably should.. but I have bigger bugs to fry first.. mplayer's streaming is broken still..
[04:46] <mcadory> kcskyl: no prob. try lsusb
[04:46] <melodramatic>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Honneur
[04:46] <melodramatic> lol
[04:46] <melodramatic> god damn
[04:46] <kvantti> benoy oh yeah forgot that
[04:46] <strokey> theCore
[04:46] <AceB747> how can i lsmod to find my ethernet card driver?
[04:46] <strokey> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper made my ubuntu -really- laggy
[04:47] <jesse_cool5> melodramatic, lol hopefully you change that now
[04:47] <kvantti> benoy i mean how do i add a link to the start menu
[04:47] <melodramatic> sure ;)
[04:47] <paladinew> nickrud: do you know if there is a command to bring up the GUI prompt ?
[04:47] <intelikey> misguided i'm not sure you can but you could kill it as soon as the boot process is finished
[04:47] <kcskyl> mcadory: thanks!  i did that and got "Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000"
[04:47] <strokey> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan , said my thing doesent support scan
[04:47] <kvantti> benoy not how do i add, i use synaptic
[04:47] <strokey> sudo ndiswrapper -l said the device was instaled
[04:47] <strokey> :|
[04:47] <nickrud> paladinew, does typing exit get you back to the login screen?
[04:47] <plb> hrm is totem-xine able to play bin/cue files (vcd) without mounting like mplayer
[04:47] <kvantti> benoy got that too
[04:47] <paladinew> nickrud: testing, brb
[04:47] <misguided> intelikey: "starting hotplug subsystem" stalls.
[04:48] <mcadory> kcskyl: now point gnomepilot to that device.
[04:48] <kcskyl> mcadory: ?
[04:48] <kcskyl> mcadory:  sorry...
[04:48] <zcat[1] > does ubotu know anything about libdvdcss? how would I ask?
[04:49] <theCore> strokey: yes ?
[04:49] <nickrud> !libdvdcss
[04:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, libdvdcss is NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/README.Debian or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh
[04:50] <strokey> read up theCore
[04:50] <ale3hs> I want to install SKYPE .. so if I download the rpm package for Debian how I install it in Ubuntu??
[04:50] <Yodabunny> hello
[04:50] <zcat[1] > a google search has lead me to the "penguin liberation front" -- I also managed to stumble on Jon Johansen's blog along the way, not surprisingly :)
[04:50] <Yodabunny> how do I tell X I'm switching video cards in Ubuntu?
[04:50] <theCore> strokey: read up ?
[04:51] <bimberi> ale3hs: are you running breezy?
[04:51] <intelikey> misguided yeah i have a box with on usb and every *nix that boots by default does that,  but if i wait until it has error looped through all the ram it crashes that process and continues boot as normal.   takes longer with more ram and more swap space.   only about 11 minutes here.    well long story short, after i install i always have to edit /etc/init.d/usb so that it doesn't do that. misguided
[04:51] <Yodabunny> Just tried it and it wouldn't start X
[04:51] <theCore> strokey: ok I catched
[04:51] <zcat[1] > http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - for stuff like dvdcss, someone tell ubutu about it?
[04:51] <ale3hs> bimberi, yes
[04:51] <nickrud> ale3hs, don't use the debian one, use the one ubotu just messaged you about
[04:51] <kcskyl> mcadory: can you tell me how i could point the gnomepilot to that device?
[04:51] <bimberi> ale3hs: breezy packages for skype are available via http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:51] <mcadory> kcskyl:  run the system>preferences>palmosdevices.  that is the gnomepilot wizard to setup the device for your palm and you just determined the device to use.  read that link i sent earlier.  it explains all of this.
[04:51] <ale3hs> nickrud, thanx
[04:51] <kvantti> it seems that icons are png's but what are the properties for the file that need to apply
[04:51] <kvantti> meaning, size, color depth
[04:52] <ale3hs> thanx bimberi 2
[04:52] <kvantti> the azureus icon file found in the dir is not accepted as icon..it is png though
[04:52] <theCore> strokey: I lost the post from the history , so you will need rewrite it
[04:52] <zcat[1] > don't use skype!! use gizmo (gizmoproject.org) it's heaps better!
[04:52] <IcemanV9> is seveas.ubuntulinux.nl = backports?? if not, then what it is?
[04:52] <strokey> k
[04:52] <zcat[1] > sorry, that might be gizmoproject.com..
[04:53] <Madpilot> !backports
[04:53] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[04:53] <Madpilot> IcemanV9: see ubotu ^^^
[04:53] <intelikey> misguided you could try adding ' hotplug=0 '  to the boot command.  but it probably wont help either....
[04:53] <muszek> hi, I rebooted to make new kernel version work and it won't boot (I'm on a liveCD now).  It says that disk hdd 2,0 doesn't exist...
[04:53] <muszek> could anyone please help me?
[04:53] <misguided> intelikey: yeah, i tried 'nohotplug' and it had no effect
[04:54] <muszek> I remember having to mess a tiny bit with grub after moving to breezy
[04:54] <evilX> i need help
[04:54] <evilX>  how emule a program of windows in my ubuntu
[04:54] <IcemanV9> thks Madpilot, but what's seveas.ubuntulinux.nl as well?
[04:55] <zenlunatic_> i keep adding universe to my repositories in synaptic but it doesn't add it.  for example i go back in synaptic and universe isn't showed up.  why?
[04:55] <nickrud> Madpilot, do you know if backports are going thru ftpmasters this time?
[04:55] <Madpilot> IcemanV9: I think it's a collection of misc. stuff
[04:55] <evilX>  how emule a program of windows in my ubuntu ??
[04:55] <N6REJ> Madpilot, I have a question... my son inadvertently hooked up the printers to the main server instead of the "workstation" that is going to be the print server.  Now the server knows all about the printers.  Am I going to mess anything up by swapping them back where they belong while the server is up?  And what will I need to fix?
[04:55] <kcskyl> mcadory: i think i see what you mean, but the /dev/ttyUSB1 still does not show up under Port in the gnomepilot...
[04:56] <Tedd> Q: Fonts. Where can I install them/can I install the same ones in Linux as Windows?
[04:56] <Madpilot> N6REJ: i've never done any Linux network or printer stuff, sorry...
[04:56] <Topslakr> i did a 5.10 server isntall, installed kubuntu-desktop and then tightvncserver. It fails to start with an error about font fixed not being found. the xfonts pkgs are installed... any ideas?
[04:56] <IcemanV9> k, thks again :)
[04:57] <kcskyl> mcadory: all i see are "/dev/pilot" , "/dev/ttyS0", "/devttyS1" , ...
[04:57] <Tedd> Anybody know about linux fonts?
[04:57] <N6REJ> Madpilot, ok, last q for now.... I know I"m supposed to have sound in Xchat but it doesn't have any sounds... is there some package I need to install?  I hear the bootup sound
[04:57] <kcskyl> mcadory: oh, and "/dev/ttyqe"
[04:57] <mcadory> kcskyl: you can type it in.
[04:57] <Madpilot> !tell Tedd about fonts
[04:57] <Madpilot> N6REJ: I don't use XChat either ;)
[04:57] <nickrud> Tedd, you can take the fonts directly from windows, and drop them in /usr/local/share/fonts, or the .fonts directory in your home
[04:57] <Tedd> God, that's a handy function.
[04:57] <Tedd> nickrud: Thanks.
[04:58] <Topslakr> but what do  you do if ubuntu can't find font fixed?
[04:58] <N6REJ> well poop LOL
[04:58] <evilX> Q: how i do to run a program of windows in my ubuntu ??
[04:58] <zenlunatic_> my repositories wont' update
[04:58] <Bicchi> i need a program that was modified a few days ago and the latest version is not on the ubuntu repositories. Is there a workaround this problem.
[04:58] <intelikey> !tell evilX about wine
[04:58] <N6REJ> nickrud, nice to know that...
[04:59] <evilX> tnx :)
[04:59] <zcat[1] > Bicchi: install from cvs ?
[05:00] <nickrud> Tedd, N6REJ you may also need to run sudo fc-cache, or open the fonts preference dialog for the new fonts to register.
[05:00] <muszek> bye
[05:00] <iamkirk> guys , i have "cedega.deb" on desktop... what do i type in a terminal to install it ?
[05:00] <zcat[1] > kids these days; when I first started on linux, we had to unpack and compile -everything- !!
[05:00] <moo> dpkg -i cedega.deb
[05:00] <jsgotangco> sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb
[05:00] <kcskyl> mcadory: could you tell me how you know if the PDA's been installed?  thanks!
[05:01] <Bicchi> zcat[1] : but does that affect in any way apt-get and what it thinks its the latest version
[05:01] <Tedd> nickrud: When I tried to extract it said I don't have permissions.
[05:01] <zcat[1] > Yeah, it'll break what apt knows abouit. apt-get remove the old one first I guess
[05:01] <mcadory> kcskyl: sync up.
[05:01] <Tedd> Would the sudo fc-cache fix that problem?
[05:01] <nickrud> Tedd, you mean into /usr/local/fonts?
[05:01] <mcadory> kcskyl: try some sample data.
[05:02] <nickrud> Tedd, you mean into /usr/local/share/fonts?
[05:02] <Tedd> Yeah.
[05:02] <nickrud> Tedd, you need to use sudo to copy into that dir
[05:02] <Tedd> Can I extract them somewhere else and it would work?
[05:02] <N6REJ> nickrud, I have an interesting little problem with one of my partitions in ubuntu.  I have my windows drive partitioned off into several drives much like I do with linux.  the thing is it "mounts" '/windows/C' but does not mount '/windows/D'  says something about a bad filesystem and that perhaps its an extended partition.
[05:02] <Tedd> No clue what that means, sorry.
[05:02] <nickrud> Tedd, yes, you can put them into $HOME/.fonts
[05:02] <Madpilot> Tedd: just create a dir called .fonts
[05:02] <Tedd> OK.
[05:03] <theCore> strokey: so what you wanted ?
[05:03] <zcat[1] > N6REJ: you probably want /dev/hdb5 rather than /dev/hdb2
[05:03] <Tedd> Madpilot: It would work, eh?
[05:03] <nickrud> N6REJ, I know little about partitioning, and next to nothing about windows partitions
[05:03] <Madpilot> Tedd: the bot should have sent you a msg w/ a URL - the URL goes thru the whole deal w/ adding fonts
[05:03] <Tedd> It did. Sorry. I forgot about it.
[05:03] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , how'd you see that?
[05:03] <Madpilot> Tedd: yes, $HOME/.fonts works
[05:03] <Tedd> I just copied them, let me ttry them out in GIMP.
[05:03] <kcskyl> mcadory: shouldn't i be seeing what's in my PDA in the MyPilot folder?
[05:03] <iamkirk> kirk@UbuntuBox:~$ sudo dpkg -i cedega_5.0.1_i386.deb
[05:03] <iamkirk> dpkg: error processing cedega_5.0.1_i386.deb (--install):
[05:03] <iamkirk>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:03] <iamkirk> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:03] <iamkirk>  cedega_5.0.1_i386.deb
[05:04] <zenlunatic_> synaptic won't add repositories
[05:04] <zcat[1] > 'or something like that'
[05:04] <strokey> theCore: can we pm? this is hard with all the chatting?
[05:04] <kcskyl> mcadory: i my PDA says that the "HotSync operation is complete", but nothing seems to be inside my MyPilot/del folder or even in the /MyPilot folder
[05:04] <zcat[1] > whatever the drive is, if '2' is an extended partition then '5' will probably be a real partition inside it
[05:04] <zcat[1] > fidks -l /dev/hdb will tell you where the yall are
[05:04] <nickrud> iamkirk, is cedega.deb in the directory you're running dpkg in?
[05:05] <zcat[1] > s/hdb/hdwhatever
[05:05] <iamkirk> no , its on the desktop
[05:05] <mcadory> kcskyl: did you set up the conduits correctly?
[05:06] <jesse_cool5> with game how do you set your own display picture?
[05:06] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , look here please ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5031
[05:06] <jesse_cool5> gaim*
[05:06] <kapputu> what's the emacs package name?
[05:08] <nickrud> iamkirk, then, dpkg -i ~/Desktop/cdega....
[05:08] <Bac9> tali: ping
[05:08] <zcat[1] > N6REJ: can you paste "fdisk -l /dev/hda" for me.. or just change /dev/hda2 to /dev/hda5 and I bet it'll work :)
[05:08] <kcskyl> mcadory: i'm pretty sure i did, but no file is showing up yet
[05:08] <iamkirk> ok , thanks a lot
[05:08] <iamkirk> when i finish updating ill try that
[05:09] <psusi> is there somewhere else to report bugs with dapper or just use bugzilla?
[05:09] <kcskyl> mcadory: i set all of them up as "Copy from pilot", and i have alot of stuff in my pilot at the moment
[05:09] <yuma> hello
[05:09] <kapputu> what's the emacs package name?
[05:09] <zenlunatic_> is there a universe and multiverse in ubuntu?
[05:09] <nickrud> Topslakr, it's been a while, but I think you need to go to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, and sudo mkfontdir . You may need to restart X
[05:09] <IcemanV9> yes zenlunatic_
[05:09] <Tedd> madpilot, nickrud: thanks. I got it working.
[05:09] <tritium> No dock sockasm in the clossroom...
[05:09] <zenlunatic_> i mean is there a universe and multiverse in breezy
[05:09] <N6REJ> zcat[1] ,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5032
[05:09] <Tedd> Tritium: Absolutely.
[05:09] <tritium> Tedd, heh
[05:09] <Tedd> Pink Floyd is somewhere between Jimi Hendrix and Jesus.
[05:10] <tritium> :)
[05:10] <yuma> can i add some tcl so if someone private message to me the tabs can flash
[05:10] <Tedd> In fact, they're right between. There's really not that much of a middle-ground there.
[05:10] <yuma> like mirc
[05:10] <mcadory> kcskyl: i don't have my palm set up my machine here. it's at work. so I can't remember what is in the MyPilot folder.  try googleing for futher help.  sorry
[05:10] <Tedd> Well, guys, I'll see you around. Who knows, maybe I'll idle here later! To your dismay of course.
[05:10] <Tedd> Thanks for all the help.
[05:10] <Tedd> Later.
[05:10] <tritium> See you Tedd
[05:10] <Em`Zee> Hmm
[05:11] <Tedd> Lates, Tritium. You'll see me around sometime.
[05:11] <zenlunatic_> IcemanV9: then why won't it add those repositories for me?
[05:11] <zcat[1] > /dev/hda5           12837       13152     2538238+   7  HPFS/NTFS  <- this is your windows D: ..
[05:11] <tritium> Good deal.
[05:11] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , ok, cool.. I'll change it .. brb.
[05:11] <Tedd> ...I'm still here?
[05:11] <Tedd> .........I closed the connection window.....
[05:11] <Tedd> Well hot damn, that's pretty handy!
[05:11] <Tedd> ...to gamesurge!
[05:12] <IcemanV9> zenlunatic_: you'll have to modify /etc/apt/source.list to get it
[05:12] <zcat[1] > I think.. anyhow. perhaps not..
[05:12] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , will I need to reboot?
[05:12] <IcemanV9> !tell zenlunatic_ about repos
[05:12] <\\char> zenlunatic... there's also another way you can add them using synaptic... easier than editing source.list (i'm a newbie, in case you can't tell)
[05:13] <kapputu> how do I find how much free space I have?
[05:13] <Topslakr> df
[05:13] <N6REJ> kapputu,  sudo df -h
[05:13] <zcat[1] > hmm.. D: will be one of /dev/hda3 or /dev/hda5 I think.. your partitioning is a bit of a mess :)
[05:14] <kcskyl> mcadory: thanks alot for your help thus far...i had no previous knowledge about pointing the gnomepilot to the /dev/ttyUSB0 before...i wouldn't have been able to figure that out on my own...
[05:14] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , sorry.
[05:14] <N6REJ> I changed /etc/fstab to 5 and then mount -a and it complained.
[05:14] <mcadory> kcskyl: welcome.  happy googling.
[05:15] <Em`Zee> Hey, does anyone know how I can write a beep character into a terminal command?
[05:15] <Em`Zee> Control+G does nothing
[05:15] <zcat[1] > yeah, probably try /dev/hda3
[05:15] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , k
[05:15] <zcat[1] > not sure what hda5 is, it looks quite small
[05:17] <kcskyl> mcadory: i just got my memo to download to my computer!  yey!
[05:17] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , its 3.  5 is my windows "temp" drive.
[05:18] <zcat[1] > Em`Zee: echo -en "\007"  I think (or was it -En ?)
[05:18] <Em`Zee> /echo -en "\007"
[05:18] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , its complaining about /dev/hda4 not /windows/D
[05:18] <Em`Zee> hmm
[05:18] <SuperID> I'm trying to compile a prog that needs Qt headers and libraries.   I can't find the right package to install.  google leads me to think that it is qt-devel but I can't find that
[05:19] <Em`Zee> zcat[1] ; I'm trying to put it into a sed string
[05:19] <mcadory> kc: cool.  then it is working.  keep experimenting and you'll get it all together.  remember to read up first and ask for clarification once you get stuck.
[05:19] <nalioth_zZz> SuperID: search in synaptic for libqt*-dev
[05:19] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5033
[05:19] <zcat[1] > /dev/hda4 isn't a partition
[05:20] <zcat[1] > sorry, it's not somewhere you can put a filesystem..
[05:20] <kapputu> hhow do I improve performance on a PIII - 850 with 256MB RAM
[05:20] <benplaut> how do i check whether or not dma is enabled on a cd drive?
[05:20] <kapputu> GUI is extremely slow
[05:20] <Em`Zee> kapputu; Don't use X =P
[05:20] <kapputu> Em`Zee, I mean with Ubuntu
[05:20] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , /dev/hda4       /dos            vfat    quiet           0       0
[05:20] <kapputu> XP was definitely faster than this
[05:20] <kapputu> Warty was fast too
[05:21] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , is it setup wrong or something?
[05:21] <Em`Zee> How big is your swap?
[05:21] <pluffsy> hello
[05:21] <kapputu> it became slow after I upgraded to hoary
[05:21] <subterrific> .who
[05:21] <zcat[1] > N6REJ: yes, there's no filesystem on /dev/hda4, it's a partition that only holds other partitions..
[05:21] <Em`Zee> kapputu; Did you repartition?
[05:21] <pluffsy> My email account only holds 30MB but I would like to have access to all my email from a server. Can I somehow relay the emails from the 30MB server to my own ubuntu server?
[05:22] <kapputu> Em`Zee, no I installed it on my primary partition
[05:22] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , then I've got it named or built wrong.  Let me reboot into windows so I can see what I was thinking.
[05:22] <kapputu> there is no Windows
[05:22] <versipolis> kapputu, install fluxbox or xfce4
[05:22] <kapputu> I think the swap is between 512 - 640
[05:22] <kapputu> I forget exactly
[05:22] <Em`Zee> Mmmm xfce.
[05:22] <zcat[1] > nah, leave windows. Windows will have no idea where the partitons are
[05:22] <Jestre> pluffsy: Check out fetchmail
[05:23] <mahangu> kapputu, xfce4++
[05:23] <kapputu> versipolis, what's the point? I like Gnome
[05:23] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , ok...  I'm just reading the kathedral and the baazar. I should have thought of that :)
[05:23] <kapputu> can I install it using apt?
[05:23] <pluffsy> Jestre: and thanks
[05:23] <Jestre> pluffsy: Absolutely :)
[05:23] <Jestre> On both accounts
[05:23] <pluffsy> hehe
[05:23] <mahangu> how can I tell evolution not to d/l attachments?
[05:24] <zcat[1] > you have one "vfat" partition which is /dev/hda2, and two in Windows XP which are /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda3 -- I gather /dev/hda5 is your windows swap?
[05:24] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , yes.
[05:24] <kapputu> and how do I free up space??
[05:24] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , don't really want to mount that.
[05:24] <zcat[1] > ok.. actually there's a nice script that will find them all for you :)
[05:24] <N6REJ> k
[05:25] <N6REJ> brb kids are going crazy
[05:25] <versipolis> kapputu, youre ram- processor poor u could cut out gdm and few other apps but in the end youre still using gnome on a piii with 256mb ram..
[05:25] <zcat[1] > can't remember the url anyhow.. someone else here will know it :)
[05:26] <N6REJ> zcat[1] , what does the script do?  maybe I can google it?
[05:26] <mahangu> anybody ever got gmailpop setup on thunderbird?
[05:26] <zcat[1] > finds all your windows partitions and sets them up properly for linux ..
[05:27] <N6REJ> oh ic... ok.. ty.
[05:27] <versipolis> kapputu, btw those are the specs on my desktop I use fluxbox and have a cheap video card runs great
[05:27] <nickrud> kapputu, there's a few tricks ... one is to run gconf-editor and look for /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources, and check it
[05:28] <IcemanV9> versipolis: you just installed server and then install fluxbox later?
[05:28] <nickrud> kapputu, another is /apps/panel/global/enable_animations, and uncheck it
[05:28] <IcemanV9> i have an old box that i could try with fluxbox :)
[05:29] <moo> anyone know how to exempt programs from being skinned by the WM when using wine/cedega?
[05:29] <versipolis> IcemanV9, that would have been the smart thing to do but I just had to see the new gnome. I just removed gdm from init.d and now do the old startx at bootup
[05:29] <nickrud> kapputu, and, the best one is, is add some memory :)
[05:29] <IcemanV9> versipolis: ah. alright.
[05:30] <SuperID> nalioth_zZz,  you were exactly right (plus I needed the mt libs/headers) ... thx
[05:30] <kapputu> nickrud, hmm why don't I have to do this for XP?
[05:30] <kapputu> and why was it good with Warty?
[05:31] <MrTallen> hi, can anyone tell me how to get my mouse 'thumb' (button 2) to make FireFox go 'back' (to last page same as the 'backspace' key) ?
[05:31] <nickrud> kapputu, I personally find breezy's gnome faster now than hoary's, and didn't run warty. XP, I have no opinion on since I run it once a month or so
[05:32] <synackuator> can anyone tell me what exactly the LVM partition (installer) option is, i can't find it in the wiki
[05:32] <kapputu> I'm not sure if firefox is hogging all the memory then
[05:32] <kapputu> I'm getting extremely irritated with firefox hogging memory when I have it running for a long time
[05:33] <kapputu> what's the command to check memory usage?
[05:34] <kapputu> top right?
[05:34] <nalioth_zZz> kapputu: free
[05:34] <nalioth_zZz> kapputu: use galeon or epiphany or kazehakase
[05:34] <nickrud> I upped this 800 p3 to 512, and gnome runs well. Compared to the 1mhz machines I used to run, it's very nice.
[05:34] <kapputu> which of these is like firefox?
[05:35] <theCore> synackuator: that should awser your question: http://rage.selfip.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:35] <kapputu> I mean gives me an experience similar to firefox?
[05:35] <synackuator> theCore, thx
[05:35] <durt> galeon
[05:35] <kapputu> and is there a way to free up memory?
[05:35] <durt> but opera beats them all
[05:35] <kapputu> closing down applications doesn't seem to have helped now
[05:35] <nickrud> kapputu, epiphany is very like firefox
[05:35] <IcemanV9> opera is kinda of ugly
[05:36] <kapputu> right I have 5 MB of free memory
[05:36] <IcemanV9> but it does work though
[05:36] <jesse_cool5> whats the command to reset the sound?
[05:36] <mahangu> jesse_cool5, killall esd
[05:36] <jesse_cool5> mahangu, thank you
[05:37] <mahangu> jesse_cool5, np
[05:37] <kapputu> not sure what's taking up all the memory
[05:37] <kapputu> right now I have Xchat, gaim, a gnome terminal open
[05:37] <mahangu> kapputu, have you tried looking for memory leaks?
[05:37] <kapputu> and I'm using 180MB
[05:37] <Knowerrors> Hey all, just installed Firestarter, however, when its on, I get no net access, anybody tell me how to use it to properly configure things?
[05:37] <kapputu> mahangu, how do I do that?
[05:38] <mahangu> kapputu, brb, but someone here will tell you
[05:39] <kapputu> brb, will try out xfce4
[05:39] <mahangu> why did he quit?
[05:39] <mahangu> has he finished apt-getting it?
[05:39] <jesse_cool5> when trying to play a cd in cdplayer i just push play it flashes pause and then changes back to play
[05:39] <versipolis> sony disk? :P
[05:40] <jesse_cool5> no
[05:41] <kapputu> xfce has a OS X theme?
[05:42] <synackuator> kapputu of course
[05:42] <synackuator> it's total pr0n
[05:42] <SoulPropagation> root@laptop:~/Desktop/opencascade # ./install.csh    Initializing InstallShield Wizard... Preparing Java(tm) Virtual Machine... /tmp/isjtzIoYH/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:43] <dhonn> help! my Applications menu doesnt show anything!??
[05:43] <durt> what a cool name BenC!
[05:43] <La_PaRCa> hey kinds. I am trying to modify the wine config file but I cant seem to find it!
[05:44] <SoulPropagation> apt-get install winecfg
[05:44] <La_PaRCa> SoulPropagation, and then what?
[05:44] <SoulPropagation> run it
[05:44] <kapputu> is there a xfce channel?
[05:44] <SoulPropagation> #xfce
[05:44] <La_PaRCa> SoulPropagation, already did. what I need to config aint there
[05:45] <SoulPropagation> /join #wine
[05:45] <theCore> SoulPropagation: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java
[05:45] <nickrud> dhonn, do ls /usr/share/applications , that's where your menu entries come from. If it isn't empty, just do a pkill gnome-panel in a terminal. They should come back up.
[05:46] <dhonn> its all there
[05:46] <zenlunatic_> i installed visualboyadvance but i can't run it and its not in /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/
[05:46] <dhonn> it shows it all for a split second then it like colapses
[05:47] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, how did you install it? dpkg or compile?
[05:47] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: pkg
[05:47] <ibh> hi all
[05:47] <Knowerrors> !firestarter
[05:47] <ubotu> [firestarter]  Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[05:47] <nickrud> zenlunatic_, doing dpkg -L visualboyadvance (assuming it's a deb) will show you all the files in the package
[05:47] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: apt-get
[05:47] <ibh> i have problem with 5.10 installation !
[05:47] <kapputu> what's the command to invoke a terminal?
[05:47] <kapputu> I'm adding a launcher
[05:47] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, was the apt-get complete? did it break?
[05:47] <SoulPropagation> kapputu: gterm
[05:48] <ibh> i got this message "The installation process fails while trying to install the initrd-tools package"  can any 1 help ?
[05:48] <mahangu_> ibh, that's not a helpful support request - tell us WHAT is wrong with it
[05:48] <SoulPropagation> kapputu: excuse me. gnome-terminal
[05:48] <kapputu> SoulPropagation, in xfce?
[05:48] <SoulPropagation> kapputu: yeah.
[05:48] <mahangu_> ibh, are you installing from a ShipIt cd or a downloaded iso?
[05:48] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: oh its capital not all lower
[05:48] <ibh> download
[05:48] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, what?
[05:48] <kapputu> I can't drag and drop applications to the panel?
[05:49] <mahangu_> ibh, did you check your md5sum against the official md5sum?
[05:49] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: its VisualBoyAdvance for binary not visualboyadvance
[05:49] <mahangu_> bites mau have been lost in transit
[05:49] <ibh> no
[05:49] <versipolis> i think i just installed freebsd on the wrong partition and erased breezy..
[05:49] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, i was just getting there
[05:49] <ibh> how can i  check it ?
[05:49] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, next time do man -f Vis*
[05:49] <mahangu_> and man -f vis*
[05:50] <ibh> mahangu : is it a problem of bad download ?
[05:50] <mahangu_> ibh, im not psychic, but it may well be
[05:50] <mahangu_> ibh, are you on linux currently?
[05:50] <ibh> no i am on WIN XP sp 2
[05:51] <mahangu_> ibh, im sorry im not sure how to check an md5 sum of a file on xp
[05:51] <mahangu_> you'll need to google that
[05:51] <ibh> ok how can i do it on linux ?
[05:51] <mahangu_> then compare it with the value in the file "MD5SUM" on the server from where you downloaded your iso
[05:51] <ibh> because i have ubuntu 5.04
[05:52] <ibh> i can switch to it
[05:52] <mahangu_> ibh, command line is easy
[05:53] <Amaranth> ibh: run `md5sum file.iso`
[05:53] <zenlunatic_> mahangu_: do you know any good nes emulators for ppc?
[05:53] <mahangu_> md5sum <filename>
[05:53] <ibh> i see
[05:53] <ibh> thanks
[05:53] <La_PaRCa> Hey, I cannot find the wine config file anywhere in my system. Any ideas where it might be=?
[05:53] <mahangu_> zenlunatic_, no sorry, not a console fan :)
[05:53] <ds[de] > ibh: i can send you the file for it if you want (for windows)
[05:53] <ibh> i found some win md5 chechker
[05:53] <mahangu_> ibh, ok great
[05:53] <mahangu_> check the md5 of the iso
[05:53] <mahangu_> and compare it to the server you downloaded from
[05:53] <jesse_cool5> how can i add a link to the terminal in the write click menu
[05:53] <mahangu_> jesse_cool5, what window manager is this? gnome?
[05:54] <jesse_cool5> mahangu, yes this is for gnome
[05:54] <mahangu_> jesse_cool5, if so, it's a little complicated - what I do is put a neat link on my panels
[05:54] <mahangu_> next to my trash icon
[05:54] <mahangu_> or on top, next to my applications list
[05:54] <mahangu_> that way, even if the desktop is covered i have access to my term
[05:55] <jesse_cool5> mahangu, in the last version of ubuntu it had it.
[05:55] <jesse_cool5> but ill guess i just link it in the bar
[05:55] <sells> anyone in here use an ibook
[05:55] <tritium> sells: Hey Steve
[05:55] <sells> tritium: hey Mike
[05:55] <mahangu_> jesse_cool5, ive been using it since hoary, and no, it didnt have it
[05:55] <sells> tritium: what is up
[05:55] <mahangu_> jesse_cool5, other wms like xfce do have it tho
[05:55] <tritium> sells, not much.  you?
[05:55] <sells> tritium: I am getting an ibook tomorrow
[05:55] <ale3hs> xqzme, how I resize the video in mplayer ?? cozit plays the actual size even if I do it full screen
[05:56] <tritium> sells, nice!
[05:56] <sells> tritium: what ya think about em
[05:56] <ds[de] > jesse_cool5 if you do an sudo apt-cache search nautilus terminal you'll find sth that should solve your problem
[05:56] <mahangu_> ale3hs, i guess that's a problem with a media file
[05:56] <tritium> sells, they're nice, but you won't be able to use the airport extreme
[05:56] <kapputu> how do I minimize windows in xfce4?
[05:56] <jesse_cool5> ds[de] , ill try that
[05:56] <sells> tritium: why
[05:57] <ale3hs> mahangu, no way.. it has to be something with the video output options
[05:57] <tritium> sells, it's not supported
[05:57] <mahangu_> ale3hs, what is the file? codec i mean
[05:57] <sells> tritium: with linux
[05:57] <tritium> sells, right
[05:57] <mahangu_> kapputu, depends on where your theme puts the buttons
[05:57] <kapputu> is there a channel for xfce4?
[05:57] <ale3hs> mpg
[05:57] <ale3hs> mahangu, mpg
[05:57] <SoulPropagation> kapputu: /join #xfce
[05:57] <mahangu_> kapputu, #xfce
[05:57] <sells> tritium: honestly arent both linux and tiger based on unix
[05:57] <tritium> yes
[05:58] <SoulPropagation> if you go back far enough, so is windows
[05:58] <pluffsy> night
[05:58] <sells> tritium: can i still do the chat deal on the ibook
[05:58] <nickrud> ale3hs, try mplayer -vo xv <filename>
[05:58] <sells> without linux
[05:58] <tritium> sells, with Mac OS X, yes
[05:58] <mahangu_> guys
[05:58] <sells> tritium: cool
[05:58] <mahangu_> can we take that talk over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:58] <sells> tritium: the wife broke down and said it is cool
[05:58] <ale3hs> nickrud, how i pass this option to gmplayer ??
[05:58] <tritium> sells, congrats
[05:58] <mahangu_> ale3hs, how does the video play in another player, like xine?
[05:58] <sells> tritium: thanks, so what is new on your end
[05:59] <Amaranth> mahangu_: We're in low-traffic mode at the moment, a small ammount of off-topic conversation is okay, it makes it look like people are actually here. :)
[05:59] <nickrud> ale3hs, gmplayer -vo xv <filename> if that works, you can add it to a config file so gmplayer will always use it
[05:59] <ale3hs> mahangu, w8 to check
[05:59] <mahangu_> Amaranth, ok, it just gets confusing
[05:59] <tritium> sells, just working a lot
[05:59] <sells> tritium: my win hard drive went tits up and thank goodness to linux, I am backing up all my music back to pc
[05:59] <sells> tritium: from ipod
[06:00] <mahangu_> sells, using a livecd?
[06:00] <tritium> backups are good :)
[06:00] <sells> mahangu: no, why
[06:00] <sells> tritium: yeap, definately in this case
[06:00] <ale3hs> nickrud, Xv: could not grab port 69
[06:00] <ale3hs> Could not find free Xvideo port - maybe another process is already using it.
[06:00] <mahangu_> sells, nope, just wondered, since that's what livecds are most used for :)
[06:00] <sells> mahangu: thanks
[06:01] <ale3hs> nickrud, same error with totem.. but I dont have another vid aplic
[06:01] <pztak> for some reason, my computer skips *a lot* when i play dvds... this never happened before in windows.. any suggestions?
[06:01] <sells> tritium: I definately am spoiled for xmas: i got a new ipod as well
[06:01] <Amaranth> !dma
[06:01] <Amaranth> !tell pztak about dma
[06:01] <nickrud> ale3hs, well, that's really odd; I don't know why that would be locked up. a sec or many.
[06:01] <sells> tritium: also, not kidding, got a new f-150: and getting promoted to E8
[06:01] <tritium> congrats, sells
[06:02] <ibh> mahangu_]   i found the md5 is different :(
[06:02] <sells> tritium: been a good month
[06:02] <ibh> do i have to download it again
[06:02] <tritium> glad to hear that
[06:02] <jesse_cool5> also is it possible that i can save all my packages to a cd and give it to a friend?
[06:02] <mahangu_> ibh, try the bit-torrent
[06:02] <kapputu> how do I tab through the windows in xchat?
[06:02] <mahangu_> kapputu, ctrl + tab
[06:02] <mahangu_> it hovers over each tab, hit enter to go there
[06:02] <Ophiocus> can i install ubuntu over a lan? with another ubuntu machine on it
[06:03] <nickrud> ale3hs, do grep XVideo /var/log/Xorg.0.log, do you get any output?
[06:03] <Amaranth> mahangu_: you can just use tab, at least on windows
[06:03] <mahangu_> Amaranth, nope, in windows and now gnome for me
[06:03] <kapputu> mahangu_, how do I bring focus to the text box?
[06:03] <mahangu_> i need to hit enter
[06:03] <Knowerrors> Hi all, can anybody help me with firestarter?
[06:03] <mahangu_> else it just highlights
[06:03] <pztak> Amaranth, thanks
[06:03] <ale3hs> nickrud, cannot believe that .. I just downloaded a movie and I cannot watch it
[06:03] <ale3hs> shit
[06:03] <mahangu_> kapputu, after i hit enter the focus shifts back to the text box
[06:04] <Amaranth> mahangu_: I'm in windows right now and tab works
[06:04] <mahangu_> Amaranth, wierd man, never did for me
[06:04] <mahangu_> at least now im sure on this port it doesnt
[06:04] <Amaranth> mahangu_: i've got silverex 2.6.0
[06:04] <pbransford> Is there a way to launch a program in a terminal, but have it output somewhere else and NOT terminate when i close the terminal? re-access is not needed, the program provides telnet access
[06:04] <mahangu_> Amaranth, i was using a silverex version too
[06:05] <nickrud> ale3hs, I get (II) Loading extension XVideo  from the grep, do you?
[06:05] <Amaranth> pbransford: program > /path/to/log/file &
[06:05] <kapputu> xfce is awesome
[06:05] <kapputu> thanks guys
[06:05] <mahangu_> pbransford, execuite it with <command> &
[06:05] <mahangu_> sorry yeah
[06:05] <kapputu> will get rid of kubuntu
[06:05] <ale3hs> nickrud,  xqzme?
[06:05] <mahangu_> Amaranth, is right
[06:05] <Amaranth> pbransford: then run 'exit' instead of closing the window
[06:05] <kapputu> what's the apt command to remove packages?
[06:05] <Amaranth> kapputu: sudo apt-get remove package
[06:05] <kapputu> Amaranth, why does it free only 36.9 kb??
[06:06] <jesse_cool5> is it possible to save my packages to a cd and give it to my friend so he can install the all
[06:06] <pbransford> thanks
[06:06] <Amaranth> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, for example
[06:06] <nickrud> ale3hs, from grep XVideo /var/log/Xorg.0.log , to see if the XVideo extension is even loaded by X
[06:06] <Amaranth> kapputu: you're uninstalling a metapackage
[06:06] <kapputu> Amaranth, how do I remove the dependencies too?
[06:06] <La_PaRCa> Does anyone know where I can find a wine IRC channel?
[06:06] <Amaranth> kapputu: metapackages don't have anything in them, they just depend on other packages to make a cohesive unit
[06:06] <kapputu> or whatever it's caleld
[06:06] <Amaranth> kapputu: get aptitude and run sudo aptitude remove <package>
[06:06] <kapputu> *called
[06:07] <kapputu> Amaranth, same thing
[06:07] <kapputu> only 36.9 kb removed
[06:07] <kapputu> freed
[06:07] <JonnyRo> Anyone here use banshee in ubuntu?
[06:07] <JonnyRo> i've been having lots of problems with it
[06:07] <Amaranth> kapputu: err, i dunno then
[06:07] <JonnyRo> t just sits there forever trying to import my music files
[06:08] <Amaranth> JonnyRo: it is beta software
[06:08] <kapputu> well I got rid of kubuntu-desktop but I don't know how to free up the space taken up the packages that came along with it
[06:08] <nickrud> kapputu, try apt-get -s remove libqt3-mt (-s simulates)
[06:09] <kapputu> nickrud, no effect. The disk space is not getting freed.
[06:09] <kapputu> it did remove the packages though
[06:10] <nickrud> kapputu, well, it only simulated it, it didn't actually perform the removes
[06:10] <pbransford> I did what you said, but its outputing to the terminal instead of the file
[06:10] <kapputu> sorry, I go into these doofus modes
[06:10] <kapputu> and don't use my brain sometime
[06:10] <nickrud> kapputu, if you're happy with what would be removed, do it without the -s
[06:10] <pbransford> and it did not return me to a command prompt
[06:10] <mcc> How in ubuntu do i change the screen resolution from the command line?
[06:11] <pbransford> whats that program that runs a process in the background outputting to program.out?
[06:11] <ale3hs> nickrud, same problem
[06:11] <kapputu> not sure why ubuntu needs like 4Gig
[06:11] <nickrud> kapputu, you also need to remove arts, and maybe there's a few other things left lying around, but not many
[06:11] <Amaranth> mcc: xvmc
[06:11] <kapputu> nickrud, is there a way to get a list?
[06:11] <nickrud> ale3hs, did the grep say that the XVideo extensions were loaded
[06:11] <ale3hs> yes
[06:11] <ale3hs> (II) Loading extension XVideo
[06:11] <ale3hs> (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[06:11] <nickrud> kapputu, the apt-get -s remove should provide a list
[06:11] <mcc> thanks
[06:12] <SoulPropagation> root@laptop:~/Desktop/opencascade # ./install.csh    Initializing InstallShield Wizard... Preparing Java(tm) Virtual Machine... /tmp/isjtzIoYH/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:12] <cwillu> Question:  setting swappiness to a low value is pretty common advice;  is it considered good advice, or merely popular?
[06:12] <ale3hs> nickrud, (II) Loading extension XVideo
[06:12] <ale3hs> (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[06:12] <nickrud> ale3hs, then, I'm not sure what's going on
[06:13] <kapputu> so why does ubuntu take up 3 Gig on my machine?
[06:14] <kapputu> Is there a way to free up unwanted stuff
[06:14] <nickrud> ale3hs, basic X I know, but the ports it wants, and why, is over my head.
[06:14] <bur[n] er> kapputu: use syanptic and remove stuff
[06:14] <kapputu> bur[n] er, going through the gui is a pain
[06:14] <kapputu> I'd rather use the cmd-line
[06:14] <bur[n] er> kapputu: apt-get remove blah if you prefer :P
[06:14] <cwillu> kapputu, I also think packages get cached, don't quite know where offhand though
[06:15] <SoulPropagation> root@laptop:~/Desktop/opencascade # ./install.csh    Initializing InstallShield Wizard... Preparing Java(tm) Virtual Machine... /tmp/isjtzIoYH/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (oh, i forgot to add - i did install java how the web guide said)
[06:15] <bur[n] er> kapputu: to clear cached packages... apt-get clean
[06:15] <kapputu> cwillu, aah that'd be a nice thing to know
[06:15] <cwillu> but are you really so short on disk space?  120gigs is what, 90 bucks now?  :)
[06:15] <Amaranth> SoulPropagation: Please don't repeat yourself.
[06:15] <cwillu> what bur[n] er said :p
[06:15] <bur[n] er> 120 can be as low as about $30 these days with rebates
[06:15] <kapputu> cwillu, I'm using a laptop
[06:15] <cwillu> heh... as if anybody sends those it :)
[06:16] <Amaranth> SoulPropagation: Make sure libstdc++6 is installed.
[06:16] <alekz> hi, HVD units are supported by ubuntu ?
[06:16] <kapputu> and I have a ubuntu installation on another partition
[06:16] <kapputu> of course I do need to get rid of that
[06:16] <SoulPropagation> libstdc++6 is already the newest version.
[06:16] <cwillu> fair enough;  "apt-get clean" was it?
[06:16] <Amaranth> SoulPropagation: Then the installer sucks.
[06:16] <Amaranth> SoulPropagation: It's probably designed to only work with RHEL4.
[06:16] <kapputu> yeah cwillu
[06:16] <kapputu> bur[n] er, thanks man I freed up 500MB
[06:16] <SoulPropagation> maybe i can ln some sos?
[06:17] <bur[n] er> kapputu: np
[06:17] <kapputu> is there a way I can change the default installation to some other drive or something?
[06:17] <bur[n] er> kapputu: when removing packages... use --purge as well to clean up configs
[06:17] <Quenyar> Anybody know how to tell evolution to collect mail but leave it on the remote server?
[06:17] <bur[n] er> Quenyar: check the box that says leave mail on server ;)
[06:17] <kapputu> I'm increasingly beginning to like xfce for the UI and performance
[06:18] <kapputu> bur[n] er, thanks I'll keep that in mind
[06:18] <synackuator> does the regular SMP kernel support dual cores such as the X2?
[06:18] <Amaranth> synackuator: yeah
[06:18] <bur[n] er> Xfce needs thunar to mature to draw a desktop and then I'd consider it :)
[06:18] <kapputu> where are the other drives mounted?
[06:18] <Amaranth> synackuator: dual cores is more or less two cpus on one chip so the smp stuff is the same
[06:18] <kapputu> ok got it
[06:19] <cwillu> kernel.vm.swappiness:  any opinions?
[06:19] <sellout_> quick question about ubuntu installation
[06:19] <Quenyar> thanks bur[n] er - just missed that
[06:19] <sellout_> I have a system with no cdrom and some really bad acpi problems with my current old debian setup
[06:19] <ale3hs> nickrud, I will just close the X and login again.. maybe some program use my video device and I dont know what it is
[06:19] <kapputu> bur[n] er, what'd you suggest otherwise?
[06:20] <sellout_> I managed to get it to boot (this once) and I'm wondering if there's a initrd/kernel  combo I could download and then boot with grub to begin a fresh install
[06:20] <mahangu_> I have Ubuntu installed on one partition, and Deb 3.1 on the other. I want to install Kubuntu over the deb partition, but will it hijack my GRUB?
[06:20] <nickrud> ale3hs, hopefully that's it.
[06:20] <bur[n] er> kapputu: as a Window Manager?  I use Gnome (metacity)
[06:20] <kapputu> bur[n] er, what's metacity?
[06:20] <viviersf> mahangu_, nope
[06:20] <viviersf> kapputu, its a windowmanager gnome uses
[06:20] <bur[n] er> kapputu: google is your fried
[06:20] <mahangu_> viviersf, no i mean, the file that the MBR reads will become /kubuntu_part/boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[06:20] <SoulPropagation> Amaranth: yeah, it's designed for redhat-based systems (not just RHEL)
[06:21] <bur[n] er> friend even
[06:21] <mahangu_> and not /ubuntu_part/boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:21] <viviersf> mahangu_, why do you want ubuntu and kubuntu ?
[06:21] <TobyK> hi! quick question - if I want to give the group permission to create files in a directory, what do I do? I've trie chmod g+rwx but it's not working
[06:21] <viviersf> just go into ubuntu and say
[06:21] <viviersf> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:21] <sellout_> if I just pull the initrd/kernel from the ubuntu netboot package and boot them with grub, am I golden?
[06:21] <mahangu_> viviersf, for kicks :) im also making room for a dapper install
[06:21] <viviersf> then just log into what you want
[06:21] <mahangu_> viviersf, ah
[06:21] <mahangu_> yes
[06:22] <mahangu_> so i might make that partition dapper then
[06:22] <viviersf> yeh
[06:22] <viviersf> good choice
[06:22] <kapputu> viviersf, how do I install metacity ??? I don't have a lot of RAM - 256 to be precise on a P III 850 which is why I switched to xfce
[06:22] <viviersf> cos you are just gonna waste space otherwise
[06:22] <mahangu_> viviersf, yeah - i just downloaded the iso for nothing then
[06:22] <viviersf> kapputu, dont use metacity clean
[06:22] <kapputu> how do I make other partitions writeable??
[06:22] <Khain3> how long does it usually take to get ubuntu cd's ? because according to the ship it page they were 2005-10-14: 3 CDs (sent to shipping company) and it says it takes 4- 6 weeks but so far its been over 6 weeks
[06:22] <viviersf> its not very "usable"
[06:22] <viviersf> gnome plugs into it
[06:22] <kcskyl> i've installed ubuntu on two of my laptops and would like to switch back to Xp for one of them, but i can't get it to boot from CD...it keeps taking me to grub...could anyone help me with this?
[06:22] <kcskyl> thanks in advance!
[06:22] <viviersf> rather use metacity / fluxbox / openbox etc
[06:23] <mike100> anyone here know about problems with Apache/PHP on Breezy?
[06:23] <pztak> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on another machine and I keep getting; "Build LTSP chroot - Installation step failed" any ideas why? (i have it do a network install from the ubuntu server).. ?
[06:23] <mahangu_> viviersf, can i use gparted to safely expand my ubuntu parition?
[06:23] <dura> FVWM ownz.
[06:23] <kapputu> viviersf, why fluxbox instead of xfce?
[06:23] <mahangu_> viviersf, /query?
[06:23] <mike100> I'm getting this Firefox dialog like, "What do you want to do with this PHP file?" instead of loading it.
[06:23] <viviersf> kapputu, nope just dont use metacity
[06:23] <TobyK> directory permissions anyone?
[06:23] <viviersf> mahangu_, sure :)
[06:23] <nickrud> I cried when sawmill died.
[06:23] <dura> TobyK, What's the trouble/
[06:23] <TobyK> hi! quick question - if I want to give the group permission to create files in a directory, what do I do? I've trie chmod g+rwx but it's not working
[06:24] <SoulPropagation> TobyK: try doing chmod -R mode location
[06:24] <alekz> hi, HVD units are supported by ubuntu ??
[06:24] <kapputu> viviersf, I don't understand
[06:24] <TobyK> what mode for "create" permission?
[06:24] <kapputu> viviersf, can you give me some pointers to learn more about this?
[06:24] <bur[n] er> TobyK: man chmod
[06:24] <dura> TobyK, man chmos && man chown
[06:24] <TobyK> i tried that was the most unhelpful page
[06:24] <mike100> Got an Apache question on Breezy. Anyone takers?
[06:24] <dura> chmod
[06:24] <viviersf> kapputu, whats the exact problem ?
[06:24] <ale3hs> nickrud, now its ok
[06:25] <viviersf> you dont want to use gnome / kde cos your pc is slow ?
[06:25] <bur[n] er> mike100: it's always easier to just ask the question
[06:25] <kcskyl> can anyone help me boot from grub?
[06:25] <nickrud> ale3hs, there's a research project for you :)
[06:25] <kcskyl> boot cd-rom
[06:25] <dura> Is there a ubuntu AMD64 channel by chance?
[06:25] <versipolis> kcskyl, what exactly do you need to do?
[06:26] <kapputu> viviersf, I'm using xfce now but would like to use Gnome
[06:26] <kcskyl> versipolis, i have ubuntu on two of my computers, and would like to put Xp on one of them
[06:26] <kapputu> though I don't know if I have enough resources to run GNOME
[06:26] <Knowerrors> Can anybody help with firewall setup?
[06:26] <mike100> In Hoary, I was just fine with PHP4 and Apache. Now I'm in Breezy and my PHP broke. I had to uninstall it and reinstall it. I got it to work for like one day and then after a reboot, it broke. I reinstalled PHP5 and Apache2 but Firefox still asks me what I want to do with a PHP file. I'm stuck.
[06:26] <kcskyl> versipolis, i found there there are compatibility issues with ubuntu that i just could not take care of
[06:26] <versipolis> kcskyl, u want ubuntu and xp on one of the comps or just xp?
[06:26] <ale3hs> nickrud, ok now a research project for you.. I switch off limewire when i log out the X.. and I relogin and I saw that I lost all my downloads in limewire
[06:27] <kcskyl> versipolis, just xp.  thanks for your response!
[06:27] <SoulPropagation> mike100: sounds like a prob with apache, go to #apache
[06:27] <viviersf> kapputu, ah :) type this : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <mike100> Knowerrors, I can help. Do you want to just build a simple firewall to keep out like 50% of the bad stuff?
[06:27] <sellout_> are there dapper install images around?
[06:27] <ale3hs> nickrud, that means about 10 movies that was already finished
[06:27] <sellout_> I just want the initrd and kernel
[06:27] <mahangu_> sellout_, yes
[06:27] <kapputu> viviersf, I already have GNOME
[06:27] <Corrupter> i've got a quick question
[06:27] <versipolis> kcskyl, this a laptop or desktop?
[06:27] <kapputu> viviersf, it's slow
[06:27] <nickrud> ale3hs, use I'd use gtk-gnutella, not limewire, if I were inclined to that kind of thing.
[06:27] <kcskyl> versipolis, everytime i try to boot from cd, i am taken to GNU GRUB
[06:27] <sellout_> mahangu_: and i should just be able to boot the kernel/initrd from grub ala command line right?
[06:27] <kcskyl> versipolis, this is a laptop
[06:28] <kapputu> viviersf, how do I make another partition writeable?
[06:28] <ale3hs> nickrud, is it same servers?
[06:28] <nickrud> ale3hs, yes
[06:28] <mahangu_> sellout_, sorry dintfollow
[06:28] <viviersf> kapputu, what partition type ?
[06:28] <mahangu_> *didn't
[06:28] <sellout_> mahangu_: I just want the kernel/initrd so that I can boot them via grub and install over my existing system
[06:28] <kapputu> viviersf, ext3
[06:28] <sellout_> mahangu_: which doesn't have netboot or a cdrom
[06:28] <Corrupter> if i have 2 hard drives, can i make one an extension of my root partition?
[06:28] <versipolis> kcskyl, some of the new laptops have wierd options to boot from cd like tap 'c' key at startup. what kind of laptop?
[06:28] <ale3hs> nickrub, and gnutella is okay?? it saves the trasnefer list and everything ok?
[06:29] <kapputu> wait I can edit /etc/fstab right?
[06:29] <ale3hs> you recomment it?
[06:29] <kcskyl> viviersf, I am taken to a GNU GRUB with no "boot from CD" option.  i have a toshiba portege 3110ct
[06:29] <mahangu_> sellout_, ive never done that mate,sorry
[06:29] <kcskyl> indeed a very old computer
[06:29] <Corrupter> does anyone know
[06:29] <Corrupter> ?
[06:29] <sellout_> mahangu_: do you know where the initrd/kernel for dapper are
[06:29] <Knowerrors> mike100: I was hoping for some program that would guide me through it, just something to allow webbrowsing, irc, im, ssh, email
[06:29] <sellout_> mahangu_: not the entire iso
[06:29] <nickrud> ale3hs, yes, I'd recommend it strongly, if I were inclined to do that kind of thing (disclaimer for the logs)
[06:29] <kapputu> sometimes it feels good just to have a command-line, you can get so much done
[06:30] <mahangu_> sellout_, im just downloading the iso, i can tar and email you when i get it
[06:30] <viviersf> kafeine, in the mount options for the hdd in /etc/fstab , just put a : rw
[06:30] <viviersf> in
[06:30] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: and how do you expect to get XP running if the darn thing can't even boot up from a CD
[06:30] <ale3hs> nickrud, i was using linux a lot, but not for the last 3-4 years .. and i dont know whats going on
[06:30] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation, exactly...i'm trying to boot up from a CD right now
[06:30] <Corrupter> ... anybody?
[06:30] <sellout_> mahangu_: if I don't find it before you're done, sure ;>
[06:30] <kapputu> what does the 'noauto' option do in /etc/fstab?
[06:31] <mahangu_> sellout_, good luck - btw, you want dapper for testing, correct?
[06:31] <kapputu> ok I forgot the command to restart changes to the partition made in /etc/fstab
[06:31] <SoulPropagation> SoulPropagation: if it's that old, it probably can't run XP without going potty all over itself, so to speak
[06:31] <nickrud> ale3hs, there's been a lot of changes in that time, true. Stuff has dropped by the wayside (bye bye, galeon) and others have gotten a lot of attention.
[06:31] <sellout_> mahangu_: I just want something than my 7 year old debian install
[06:31] <mahangu_> sellout_, so go for breezy
[06:32] <mahangu_> dapper is still in development - very early development
[06:32] <odin> What could cause a directory to be enterable by a given user in a shell, but not in gnome?
[06:32] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation, i ran win 2000 no prob, and i read an ariticle that says that it should work with XP
[06:32] <sellout_> if it boots, and can run samba I'm happy
[06:32] <versipolis> kcskyl, u need to set bootup options in the computer bios tell it to boot from cd first try: with laptop OFF
[06:32] <versipolis> press & hold ESC key while powering on then hit F1 when prompted then PgDn
[06:32] <sellout_> which I know it will
[06:32] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: wrong
[06:32] <SoulPropagation> XP is much more resource-intensive.
[06:32] <ale3hs> nickrud, I was using gentoo but I got sicked with the compiling.. ubuntu I must confess rocks
[06:32] <kapputu> ok I forgot the command to restart changes to the partition made in /etc/fstab
[06:32] <sellout_> mahangu_: I'm interested to see where this whole ubuntu thing is going I used debian for a long long time
[06:33] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation, Yes.  I understand that.
[06:33] <mahangu_> sellout_, so breezy is your best bet!
[06:33] <mahangu_> :)
[06:33] <kapputu> mahangu_, help?
[06:33] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: there's nothing 2000 can't do that XP can
[06:33] <SoulPropagation> XP is just 2000 with a bunch of toys'
[06:33] <mahangu_> kapputu, reboot?
[06:33] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation: nothing at all?
[06:33] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: nope
[06:33] <kapputu> mahangu_, no there is a command
[06:33] <nickrud> ale3hs, I started with debian a few years ago, and ubuntu has put a nice polish in spots
[06:33] <mahangu_> why are we talking about winblows in here?
[06:33] <sellout_> mahangu_: well I was interested in the software discovery features of the new installer
[06:33] <mahangu_> kapputu, after you edit /etc/fstab just restart
[06:34] <ale3hs> nickrud, however I have so many programs and I cannot unistall it coz of the dependecies.. thats a bit silly the managment with the dependecies
[06:34] <mahangu_> sellout_, breezy discovers too?
[06:34] <SoulPropagation> mahangu_: don't insult other operating systems. everything's good for something
[06:34] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation: problem is i don't have a hundred dollars to buy 2000...
[06:34] <kapputu> no mahangu_ you don't need that
[06:34] <mahangu_> kapputu, ok my bad then
[06:34] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation: i only have XP
[06:34] <siriuskr> okay i have windows on 1 drive and linux on the other i formated the linux drive and the boot loader is still on my windows drive but now i can't boot into windows ??? gives me grub error 17 ???
[06:34] <kapputu> I just found out that the changes take effect immediately
[06:34] <bur[n] er> kcskyl: so use ubuntu :P
[06:34] <mike100> Knowerrors, then I suggest using lokkit, and I prefer the command-line version, not gnome-lokkit.
[06:34] <kapputu> but previously you needed a command to do that
[06:34] <SoulPropagation> kcskyl: there should have been an install CD that came with your machine
[06:34] <sellout_> mahangu_: I run a network of linux machines/windows that do RDP into win2k servers
[06:34] <kapputu> in warty I mean
[06:34] <mahangu_> kapputu, /etc/init.d/mountall.sh ?
[06:34] <kcskyl> SoulPropagation: i purchased a used machine...didn't come with 2000
[06:34] <mike100> Knowerrors: Have you tried lokkit?
[06:34] <SoulPropagation> you could also download a pirated copy of 2000 and install it with the CD-key on the bottom of your computer
[06:34] <sellout_> mahangu_: i like this software rollout stuff they speak off
[06:35] <kapputu> sellout_, can you get me a VPN client 4.0.3 for linux?
[06:35] <ale3hs> nickrud, haha debian was a big joke... u should be a proffesor in programming to install it.. it had so many mistakes
[06:35] <sellout_> mahangu_: and it's just my home FS that I'd be switching over
[06:35] <nickrud> ale3hs, the best advice I could give is to learn aptitude's interactive mode, you can easily trace down dependencies and weed them out.
[06:35] <versipolis> kcskyl, not really on topic but all u have to do in xp is disable some services u dont need. start-run-services.msc and start disabling and stopping stuff
[06:35] <mahangu_> sellout_, i see
[06:35] <siriuskr> okay i have windows on 1 drive and linux on the other i formated the linux drive and the boot loader is still on my windows drive but now i can't boot into windows ??? gives me grub error 17 ???
[06:35] <Fushi> siriuskr: Fdisk /MBR
[06:35] <Kumasan> Using the GNOME filechooser, to save files, etc, how do you configure it to allow you to select directories beginning with a . ?
[06:35] <mahangu_> sellout_, ok well good luck, but dapper is far from stable
[06:35] <sellout_> kapputu: 4.0.3 vpn client?
[06:35] <kcskyl> bur[n] er, i would if you can help me get my PDA to work properly on my ubuntu :)
[06:35] <kapputu> sellout_, yes
[06:35] <bur[n] er> kcskyl: what kinda pda?
[06:35] <sellout_> mahangu_: I've run debian 'testing' since god knows when
[06:35] <siriuskr> ? /MBR ?
[06:35] <nickrud> ale3hs, no, not mistakes, just a different approach.
[06:35] <sellout_> mahangu_: if it breaks after a apt-get dist-upgrade I just wait a day or so
[06:36] <sellout_> kapputu: sorry please explain 4.0.3
[06:36] <kcskyl> versipolis, the esc trick didn't work...
[06:36] <nickrud> ale3hs, and, you're essentially running debian at the moment :)
[06:36] <kcskyl> bur[n] er, Tungsten E
[06:36] <Knowerrors> mike100: nope, haven't heard of it... is it pretty easy?
[06:36] <ale3hs> nickrud, where are u from ?? a differend approach that u had to edit every single file to have things working
[06:36] <kcskyl> versipolis: it took me to the same Grub window
[06:36] <sellout_> kapputu: as in ubuntu 4.0.3? and for what VPN backend
[06:36] <bur[n] er> kcskyl: I had one of those!!!  it works out of the box!
[06:36] <mahangu_> sellout_, good point! ;-)
[06:36] <siriuskr> Fushi MBR ?      also i need to keep everything i had on that disk like it was
[06:36] <versipolis> kcskyl, u need to get into bios not sure what key you will need to use
[06:36] <kcskyl> bur[n] er, you mean the calendar, music, and powerpoint?
[06:36] <ale3hs> nickrud, yea but 3 years later ..it has been improved
[06:37] <sellout_> mahangu_: samba is all I really care about, well actually the wife since all her audio/video on the xbox streams from the debian server
[06:37] <kcskyl> versipolis: yeah...couldn't figure that out myself...
[06:37] <versipolis> kcskyl, try tapping 'C' at startup toshiba like to put that in most bios
[06:37] <viviersf> kapputu, noauto makes that the partition isnt auto mounted at boot time
[06:37] <pztak> the linux-k7 kernel is for amd (gateway) machines?
[06:37] <kcskyl> versipolis: i tried that...still grub
[06:37] <mike100> Knowerrors: lokkit is extremely easy. Just apt-get install lokkit (and if that's not available, then do "sudo /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment the universe lines temporarily, then do "sudo apt-get update", then try "sudo apt-get install lokkit")
[06:37] <nickrud> ale3hs, yeah, the approach was, don't get in the way of the administrator. But, true, I installed debian early on, looked at the command prompt, and installed mandrake. I went back about a year later.
[06:37] <kcskyl> bur[n] er, did you get the word document, powerpoint, and calendar to work from your PDA to your ubuntu???
[06:38] <viviersf> kapputu, to "commit" the changes unmount the partitions your changed and mount em again
[06:38] <ale3hs> nickrud, I got a serious question to test ur skills.. I got an acer travel mate.. so there is any way to set up my pen ??
[06:38] <mike100> Knowerrors: lokkit is a good starting point. And it generates a file on the hard drive -- I forgot where, but it's under the /etc directory where you can see the actual "iptables" statements it uses to do its work.
[06:38] <nickrud> ale3hs, not a clue.
[06:38] <Knowerrors> mike100: dowloading it right now
[06:39] <ale3hs> nickrud, and a second more important, can I connect my motorolla V975 to linux?? there is any software ?
[06:39] <sellout_> does anyone else have a dapper install initrd/kernel lying around?
[06:39] <nickrud> but, if I was looking for a clue, I'd start at the ubuntu laptop pages and http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/acer.html
[06:39] <Knowerrors> mike100: will lokkit automatically write to the iptables config file?
[06:40] <mike100> Knowerrors: yep
[06:40] <mike100> Knowerrors: From there, I eliminated lokkit and started using the iptables script it gave me. I went to Usenet newsgroups and asked for advice on improving it and got some good advice.
[06:40] <ale3hs> nickrud, I have to write a java application for motorolla and I need to conect it somehow
[06:40] <kcskyl> bur[n] er:?
[06:41] <sellout_> wow the ubuntu www site doesn't make it easy to find a download of anything but "release'
[06:42] <onkarshinde> sellout_: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:42] <Knowerrors> hmm, lokkit didn't really ask questions...
[06:42] <onkarshinde> sellout_: What do you want to download? And why do you want to download from site?
[06:42] <ale3hs> goodnite guys ..and good luck with the problems ;) ..see ya
[06:43] <guidan> hi, wants a good dvd copy for ubuntu?
[06:43] <sudhir> hi I m facinf problem while installing modem
[06:43] <sudhir> device 1014:0576
[06:43] <onkarshinde> sudhir: What kind of modem is it?
[06:43] <sellout_> onkarshinde: I want to download a initrd/kernel for the installer set
[06:43] <sudhir> its Intel onboard modem
[06:44] <sellout_> onkarshinde: I have a machine with no netboot and no removeable media that I would like to install dapper on
[06:44] <sellout_> onkarshinde: so a initrd/kernel would let me do it from grub
[06:45] <moua> can anyone login to http://billing.yahoo.com ? it don't works for me :(
[06:45] <sudhir> I dont see it in pci.ids
[06:45] <onkarshinde> sudhir: First imp thing. Don't use dapper. Second thing. If yours is new computer then there is high chance that the modem is Smartrlink. Can you paste output of lspci into pastebin?
[06:45] <mahangu_> moua, i fail to see what that has to do with ubuntu
[06:46] <SoulPropagation> moua: it's not a ubuntu problem
[06:47] <ben_underscore> hey all, i just installed 5.10 and quite a few of the gnome desktop icons are missing, such as from nautilus and the task bar. anyone seen this before?
[06:47] <moua> in what channel should i go for that problem ?
[06:47] <sudhir> sorry onkar , but i didnt get what do u mean my dapper
[06:47] <sudhir> my =by
[06:47] <rob_p> moua:  The page loads but that's all I can tell you since I don't have a login.
[06:48] <moua> After the login page i get a blank page :(
[06:48] <onkarshinde> I thought you wanted to install dapper drake (6.04 unstable). Anyways. Can you tell me which modem is it by output of lspci
[06:48] <rob_p> moua:  I guess contact yahoo customer service...
[06:48] <moua> ok :/
[06:48] <pztak> in the 2nd part of install, while configuring the packages, it had some problem, and quit, now i only see a login screen.. how do i relaunch that configuration?
[06:48] <snausages> hey all, is there any way to disable font smoothing in the terminal?
[06:48] <Corrupter> can anyone answer a question?
[06:49] <La_PaRCa> Exactly how well is dapper working right now...?
[06:49] <onkarshinde> Corrupter: You seems to be the person with most question in this channel. Anyway, go on.
[06:50] <onkarshinde> !tell La_PaRCa about topic
[06:50] <sudhir> onkar plz chek -->http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5034
[06:50] <La_PaRCa> I didnt ask how to install it. I just wanna know if its in a mildly recognizable shape so I can post _any_ results to the laptop testing team.
[06:51] <rob_p> Corrupter:  I can answer lots of questions but it probably won't help you... not unlike your question's ability to help us understand what you need help with :-)
[06:51] <pc22> #games
[06:51] <LoneWolf071> how do i change the screen resolution in fluxbox?
[06:51] <nickrud> La_PaRCa, I understand that X is not exactly stable right now, so probably not
[06:52] <Corrupter> well i was here 20 minutes ago and was completely ignored, so figured it would be a good idea to ask before wasting my time]
[06:52] <pztak> in the 2nd part of install, while configuring the packages, it had some problem, and quit, now i only see a login screen.. how do i relaunch that configuration?
[06:52] <alekz> how can i change my mouse icon ?
[06:52] <La_PaRCa> nickrud, oh, ok. Thanks. I will have to get an extra laptop from my company to test on then.
[06:53] <LoneWolf071> how do i change the sceen resolution in fluxbox?
[06:53] <nickrud> La_PaRCa, there's been 4 uploads of xorg in the last week :)
[06:53] <benoy> hi, i just tried to install java using the method shown in the ubuntu 5.10 starter guide in Syster>help bup when I type in the command:**dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb** my terminal says  ** dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[06:53] <benoy>   ** What should I do?
[06:53] <Corrupter> if i have a second hard drive, would i be able to extend my root partition onto it?
[06:53] <rob_p> Corrupter:  Yeah, it can seem that way from time to time depending on who happens to be available.  Maybe nobody with a solution was listening.  Don't give up man!
[06:53] <pc22> how do i know my resources? my RAM?
[06:53] <La_PaRCa> nickrud, oh, if its _that_ bad then what I need is more bandwidth.
[06:53] <onkarshinde> pztak: You will have to reconfigure packages in which there was a problem. But anyways. If you see login screen that means mostl things are alright.
[06:53] <nickrud> lol
[06:53] <onkarshinde> pc22: top
[06:53] <mike100> Knowerrors: Did you install gnome-lokkit or just lokkit. The lokkit will have checkboxes to choose. Gnome-lokkit, I recall, did not.
[06:53] <LoneWolf071> how do i change the sceen resolution in fluxbox?
[06:53] <pztak> onkarshinde, i dont know which ones caused the problem.. stuff like 'man' though are missing
[06:53] <sudhir> onkarshinde : did u check the link
[06:54] <nickrud> La_PaRCa, you need to subscribe to dapper-changes
[06:54] <pztak> onkarshinde, as well as X
[06:54] <pc22> onkarshinde, any other?
[06:54] <La_PaRCa> nickrud, I need to do many things... Ive been meaning to get involved and adopt a couple of orphan packages and do the laptop testing and what not... Havent quite gotten to it.
[06:54] <LoneWolf071> how do i change the sceen resolution in fluxbox?
[06:55] <Corrupter> see? lol...
[06:55] <La_PaRCa> What I _really_ need to do right now tho, is take.a.piss.
[06:55] <onkarshinde> sudhir: Yes I did. There is something called sl-modem. Search it in synaptic. See if it works with your modem
[06:55] <onkarshinde> pztak: Can you login to computer?
[06:55] <Fushi> Corrupter: I'm not sure how to, sorry
[06:55] <rob_p> LoneWolf071:  Nobody has an answer for you at the moment...  No sense in spamming the channel!
[06:56] <onkarshinde> pc22: Isn't that command sufficient?
[06:56] <pztak> onkarshinde, yes, but in console
[06:56] <Fushi> Corrupter: Maybe link /root to that hd or part?
[06:56] <LoneWolf071> rob_p, Sorry...
[06:56] <pc22> i want to know my processor too
[06:56] <Corrupter> and how do i do that?
[06:56] <onkarshinde> pztak: Applications->System Tools->System Monitor
[06:57] <rob_p> Corrupter:  Did you partition your drive in such a way that the root partition is separate from /usr and /var, etc?
[06:57] <onkarshinde> pztak: Sorry, that was for pc22
[06:57] <SoulPropagation> so i have this program that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - i know i have libstdc++ installed, so what should i make a link of to fake libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?
[06:57] <Corrupter> i haven't even put it in yet
[06:57] <onkarshinde> pc22: System Monitor or Device Manager. Search in menus
[06:57] <sudhir> onkar plz chek -->http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5034
[06:58] <La_PaRCa> LoneWolf071, you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change the default resolution from there. I dont have better advise on a better tool since I dont use fluxbox.
[06:58] <Vivaldi> hello
[06:58] <Vivaldi> what's Flight-1 Dapper Testing CD ?
[06:58] <pztak> onkarshinde, it's ok, any ideas on how to get this to work.. i've never had so much trouble installing ubuntu on a machine.. i've run it through installation way too many times..
[06:59] <onkarshinde> pztak: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:59] <onkarshinde> sudhir: I did look into it. It seems you didn't read my reply.
[06:59] <La_PaRCa> PabloEscobar_, wow, thats an offensive nickname
[07:00] <PabloEscobar_> La_PaRCa-> why ??
[07:00] <onkarshinde> sudhir: There is a driver sl-modem. Search in Synaptics
[07:00] <La_PaRCa> PabloEscobar_, cuz im colombian...
[07:00] <La_PaRCa> Unless your name _actually_ is pablo escobar, in which case I am sorry.
[07:00] <Fushi> heh
[07:00] <PabloEscobar_> La_PaRCa-> heh, didn't know, I'm nowhere near Col., but O've seemed to use that nick for a couple of years
[07:01] <Madpilot> Vivaldi: see the /topic regarding Dapper
[07:01] <La_PaRCa> PabloEscobar_, ok
[07:01] <SoulPropagation> La_PaRCa: how is that at all offensive?
[07:02] <pztak> onkarshinde, it says package isn't installed.. i get the feeling that more than one packages didn't get installed.. why can't i just rerun the part2 of install that launches on boot? does it erase itself?
[07:02] <SoulPropagation> so i have this program that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - i know i have libstdc++ installed, so what should i make a link of to fake libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?
[07:02] <La_PaRCa> SoulPropagation, Pablo Escobar was a renowned colombian drug dealer. And its associated with a bad image of my country. I dont think its a name to so lightly throw around.
[07:02] <onkarshinde> pztak: Do one thing then. 'sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop' This will install the packages needed.
[07:03] <pztak> onkarshinde, ok, trying, once it's done, what do i do?
[07:03] <SoulPropagation> La_PaRCa: ah
[07:03] <SoulPropagation> that sucks.
[07:03] <onkarshinde> pztak: Reboot. :-D
[07:04] <pztak> onkarshinde, will do. any ideas on why the installation would have problems on a fresh new install? is it a sign that's something's wrong with the harddrives or something?
[07:05] <onkarshinde> pztak: No it may be sign that CD is not properly burnt, or simply failure of CDROM drive
[07:05] <sudhir> Onkar : thanks , let me try
[07:05] <onkarshinde> sudhir: still there?
[07:05] <pztak> onkarshinde, but the cd wasn't in.. it was in the second part of the install.. where it says to remove the cd.. (after the first reboot in the install)...
[07:06] <ke> pztak, you should burn the CD at a lower speed.. Try 24x
[07:06] <onkarshinde> pztak: May the packages wasn't copied properly to har disk's tmp area. Leave the reason. See if my suggestion solves your problem
[07:06] <ke> I had the same problem
[07:06] <SoulPropagation> so i have this program that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - i know i have libstdc++ installed, so what should i make a link of to fake libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?
[07:06] <La_PaRCa> pztak, it has happened to me before... maybe your partition wasnt big enough to install _and_ cache the packages from the cd
[07:07] <sudhir> met me reboot and check
[07:07] <onkarshinde> SoulPropagation: What program is it?
[07:07] <pztak> La_PaRCa, the partition was 7gb for / and 80gb for /home..
[07:07] <NoUse> pztak what kind of problems are you having? Some problems have to do with bad RAM
[07:07] <sudhir> apt-get installed new kernel :( :)
[07:07] <ke> pztak, my was 30 gb... So just burn it at 24x :)
[07:07] <ke> It will work
[07:07] <pztak> NoUse, during install, i had problems with using the cd for base system, so i set it up to use the mirrors
[07:07] <ke> <-- out for breakfast
[07:07] <NoUse> pztak oh ok, yeah thats a CD problem, did you verify the ISO when you downloaded it?
[07:08] <onkarshinde> sudhir: What did you try to install? Did you updated system recently? Kernel has been updated recently
[07:08] <NoUse> !tell pztak about verify
[07:08] <pztak> NoUse, then with the chroot environment being configured.. and lastly with part2 failing to configure
[07:08] <opiate> anyone have any problems with firefix or anyother browser when using a java chat text box? nothing shows up as i type?!?!
[07:09] <pztak> NoUse, i burnt the cd twice.. and i've burnt ubuntu install cds before that worked on other machines..
[07:09] <nickrud> opiate, I had that problem once, I changed the monospace font
[07:09] <PabloEscobar_> La_PaRCa-> I didn't mean any offence to anyone, just I've used to that nickname (I'm Paul -> Hence Pablo :) )
[07:10] <EerieShadow> hello everybody
[07:10] <La_PaRCa> hey, whats the name of that capplet that tells you the speed of your network connection?
[07:10] <NoUse> pztak then yeah try burning it a slower speed
[07:10] <nickrud> netspeed?
[07:11] <d03boy> can anyone tell me how to get write permissions for a mounted fat32 partition?
[07:11] <EerieShadow> is there a way to set my laptops' resolution to 1280x768? wide screen
[07:11] <EerieShadow> ?
[07:11] <pztak> NoUse, i wrote it at speed '4' in gnomebaker
[07:11] <d03boy> /dev/hda5       /mnt/fat32      vfat    noauto,user,umask=0     0       0
[07:12] <NoUse> d03boy edit your /etc/fstab file and make umask=0000
[07:12] <d03boy> ok
[07:12] <NoUse> pztak I would verify the ISO image, otherwise it could be a problem with the drive
[07:13] <opiate> nickrud: what did you change it to?
[07:14] <BoneE> how do i impove my system speed
[07:14] <pztak> NoUse, the md5 checksums verify...
[07:14] <intelikey> umask=0 should work.....
[07:14] <pztak> NoUse, the cd-drive or hard-drive?
[07:14] <BoneE> when i run vidz prog it lags
[07:14] <nickrud> opiate, it was a while ago, and I was actually going for the backspace but hit enter (I blame the cat) since I can't reproduce what i did
[07:14] <jesse_cool5> is there anything i need to install to be able to listen to shoutcast streams?
[07:15] <EerieShadow> anyone? how to setup widescreen resolutions in ubuntu?
[07:15] <nickrud> jesse_cool5, get streamtuner and beep-media-player, it's a decent combo
[07:15] <opiate> nickrud: thanks anyways :)
[07:15] <jesse_cool5> nickrud, ok thanks
[07:15] <onkarshinde> BoneE: Do you mean video? What program are you using? Running from CD directly? Have you enabled dma?
[07:16] <BoneE> i run xine
[07:16] <BoneE> everything is on
[07:16] <BoneE> i have a 2.56ghz P4 1gb ram
[07:16] <onkarshinde> jesse_cool5: If you have links of streams then Beep media player is sufficient. Else you need streamtuner
[07:17] <jesse_cool5> onkarshinde, ok i already have the urls
[07:19] <onkarshinde> BoneE: Have you enabled dma?
[07:19] <BoneE> yes
[07:19] <jesse_cool5> i really like the add programs feature
[07:19] <BoneE> thats the werid part
[07:19] <onkarshinde> BoneE: Then I don't see any improvement chance then.
[07:20] <BoneE> even when it runs off the hd
[07:22] <jesse_cool5> is there a way for me to take all the bandwith from the other computers in the network?
[07:23] <d03boy> anyone know that plugin/whatever that makes gimp look like photoshop
[07:23] <La_PaRCa> d03boy, its not a plugins, its a fork of the gimp called gimpshop
[07:24] <onkarshinde> d03boy: I don't know about any plugin but there is something called gimpshop which seems to be fork of gimp
[07:24] <intelikey> d03boy what they said ^
[07:25] <d03boy> not supported by ubuntu it looks like
[07:25] <gee_cee0> hi
[07:25] <jesse_cool5> hi
[07:25] <gee_cee0> anyone willing to help a noob?
[07:25] <jesse_cool5> depends
[07:25] <gee_cee0> umm... on what?
[07:26] <onkarshinde> gee_cee0: We all are provided you state your problem clearly.
[07:26] <jesse_cool5> what you need help with
[07:26] <Fushi> Just ask the question bud :)
[07:26] <gee_cee0> ok
[07:26] <gee_cee0> im not sure how u compile a basic c program
[07:26] <gee_cee0> i heard something along the lines of gcc -o hello hello.c
[07:26] <gee_cee0> but doesnt seem to work
[07:27] <onkarshinde> gee_cee0: Then first install package build-essential
[07:27] <gee_cee0> installed
[07:27] <gee_cee0> i got gcc
[07:27] <gee_cee0> but no such file or directory found is the error message
[07:27] <gee_cee0> when i go gcc -o hello hello.c
[07:28] <thrice`> gcc -o hello.c?
[07:28] <gee_cee0> same result
[07:28] <gee_cee0> looks like this
[07:28] <gee_cee0> glen@useless:~$ gcc -o hello hello.c
[07:28] <gee_cee0> gcc: hello.c: No such file or directory
[07:28] <gee_cee0> gcc: no input files
[07:28] <gee_cee0> glen@useless:~$
[07:28] <thrice`> you want to compile it?
[07:29] <transgress> umm is there a hello.c?
[07:29] <gee_cee0> yes
[07:29] <gee_cee0> in desktop yes
[07:29] <transgress> are you in desktop?
[07:29] <gee_cee0> ls says Desktop
[07:29] <thrice`> gcc -c hello.c -o hello
[07:29] <Fushi> nope lol
[07:29] <onkarshinde> gee_cee0: then you will have to do cd Desktop first.
[07:29] <threeseas> why is it that ubuntu live can connect via wireless but ubuntu installed cannot?
[07:29] <transgress> pwd should say desktop
[07:29] <onkarshinde> gee_cee0: 'cd Desktop'
[07:29] <gee_cee0> um ok
[07:29] <thrice`> he needs -c to compile it though!
[07:30] <Toma-> threeseas: different startup scripts
[07:30] <jesse_cool5> threeseas, lol
[07:30] <gee_cee0> ahh i see
[07:30] <thrice`> gee_cee0, work?
[07:30] <gee_cee0> yea it printed hello world
[07:30] <d03boy> so is there a repos thing for gimpshop for ubuntu ro do I need to make my own package using dpkg?
[07:31] <threeseas> second question: why cannot ubuntu live access the installation hard drive (even when it is not lvm)???
[07:31] <Tedd> Who knew I'd be back! I did.
[07:31] <Tedd> Can anybody help me with BlueFish
[07:31] <siriuskr> gah i just lost everything i had on windows because of linux's boot loader lol so i guess im gona format and install linux :P i got a 64bit cpu should i use the 64bit one or the 32 bit ubuntu ?
[07:32] <jesse_cool5> 64
[07:32] <d03boy> siriuskr, are you aware that you can reinstall the windows bootloader?
[07:32] <Tedd> 64 obviously
[07:32] <siriuskr> how ?
[07:32] <Fushi> fdisk /mbr :o
[07:32] <La_PaRCa> d03boy, seems its not on the repos... you can a. get the sources and compile or b. get an rpm and use alien to turn it into a .deb, then use dpkg to install it
[07:32] <d03boy> siriuskr, what version of windows?
[07:32] <La_PaRCa> d03boy, I would recommend b
[07:32] <siriuskr> xp
[07:32] <sudhir> siriuskr : did not use free space fasture of ubuntu while partion
[07:32] <d03boy> La_PaRCa, ok
[07:32] <siriuskr> im reinstalling windows over the old install ill at least get all of my files i hope
[07:33] <Fushi> just get rid of grub
[07:33] <d03boy> siriuskr, boot from the winxp cd and go into the console recovery mode. Use the command fixmbr or fixboot
[07:33] <siriuskr> i screwed the partitions do3boy
[07:33] <Fushi> Wont fdisk /mbr work too?
[07:33] <siriuskr> it wont let me do that just reboots when i try that
[07:33] <d03boy> siriuskr, im pretty sure fixboot will put your winxp partition back  but not linux oens
[07:33] <Tedd> Rrrg
[07:34] <jesse_cool5> Fushi, im pretty sure fdisk isnt in xp
[07:34] <Fushi> in a boot flopy it is :P
[07:34] <siriuskr> the reason i asked which version 64 or 32 cause i wasn't sure if everything driver/program wise was working for 64 bit\
[07:34] <Tedd> Rrrrrg
[07:34] <Tedd> Hmm
[07:34] <Tedd> BlueFish isn't writing over my file
[07:34] <Tedd> files
[07:34] <siriuskr> im using 32 bit now on 2 computers lol
[07:34] <Tedd> Can anybody help me out
[07:35] <Tedd> Bluefish won't write over my .php file, it only makes it x.php~
[07:35] <guupsta> hi
[07:35] <Tedd> So if it's admin.php, it makes another file completely called admin.php~
[07:36] <guupsta> anyone know repositories for these? http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs I'm running breezy
[07:36] <threeseas> the prase ubuntu has been getting lately is not good the promotion of linux in general -- seeing how ubuntu breezy has some pretty serious problems.....
[07:36] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[07:36] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[07:36] <Tedd> Anybody help meh?
[07:37] <Madpilot> guupsta: see ubotu ^^^
[07:37] <somedude> what up ubuntu dudes
[07:37] <Tedd> !bluetooth
[07:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Tedd
[07:37] <guupsta> Madpilot: k. thanks
[07:37] <Tedd> :(
[07:37] <somedude> is ubuntu better than debian
[07:37] <relbs_> Tedd: what do you need to know about bluetooth?
[07:37] <BoneE> ubuntu is base on debian
[07:37] <Tedd> It doesn't write over my files
[07:37] <Tedd> So if it's admin.php, it makes another file completely called admin.php~
[07:37] <Madpilot> Tedd: where are the files?   Firefox can display chinese text fine, but if I try to use a gtk program (i.e. pydict), the chinese text isn't displayed properly
[07:39] <Tedd> SOMEDUDE.
[07:39] <Tedd> WHAT
[07:39] <Tedd> POSESSED YOU
[07:39] <Tedd> TO DO THAT.
[07:39] <Tedd> Why are you doing that!?
[07:39] <wmon> is there a safe way to upgrade the gnome?
[07:39] <Madpilot> Tedd: enough with the caps, please!
[07:40] <ajmitch_> Tedd: enough caps
[07:40] <Tedd> Sorry. Fedora is like one step above suicide.
[07:40] <somedude> i donno i thought it would be good practice incase i work at a place that uses redhat enterprise
[07:40] <ajmitch_> Tedd: that's a nice opinion, not everyone shares it, it's a great way to incite flamewars
[07:40] <wmon> cause debian's is so old
[07:40] <Tedd> I can't understand why they would do that to themselves. Anywho.
[07:40] <ajmitch_> Tedd: so please don't trash other distros here
[07:40] <Tedd> Teh 'k. Sorry.
[07:40] <somedude> ya thats why i switched from debian like 2 years ago
[07:41] <wmon> Fedora's cool because it has a recent version of Gnome
[07:41] <somedude> debian got too antique for me
[07:41] <Madpilot> wmon: Ubuntu 5.10 includes the newest Gnome, if that's what you mean - 2.12.something...
[07:41] <wmon> oh
[07:41] <wmon> but..
[07:41] <Tedd> Ah, there we go.  Off to blow things up in ET...
[07:42] <Tedd> Now I just have to figger out whether or not there's a way to change the background.
[07:42] <Tedd> Staring at black on white is murderous.
[07:42] <n0dl_> how do i mount a usb device
[07:42] <n0dl_> like a digital camera
[07:43] <d03boy> when I run Gimp from the menu nothing happens
[07:44] <d03boy> actually it says "Starting Gimp Image editor" then it disappears
[07:44] <Toma-> n0dl: plug it in, run gtkam
[07:44] <strokey|> d
[07:44] <n0dl_> Toma-,  is gtkan a package
[07:45] <Toma-> n0dl: yes
[07:46] <SoulPropagation> let's say i'm trying to install a package, and it depends on thingomatic-old. but thingomatic-old has been replaced by thingomatic-new. what do i do?
[07:46] <Toma-> file a bug
[07:46] <Toma-> SoulPropagation: what is this hingomatic?
[07:46] <poningru> oh wait I cant do that yet...
[07:47] <gee_cee0> ?
[07:47] <poningru> dont worry about it
[07:47] <SoulPropagation> Toma-: well in my case thingomatic-old is kdelibs4 and thingomatic-new is kdelibs4c2
[07:48] <Toma-> kdelibs4...
[07:48] <brlancer> on all of my ubuntu boxes, it takes forever to mount nfs shares exported from other systems
[07:48] <n0dl_> toma- its not detecting my camera
[07:49] <Toma-> there is some apt magic config you can change but i forget how
[07:49] <sudhir> plz help me installing modem
[07:49] <gee_cee0> really?
[07:49] <brlancer> forever == "greater than a minute, when other systems mount immediately"
[07:49] <Toma-> n0dl: is it coming up in dmesg?
[07:49] <n0dl_> Toma-: dmesg?
[07:49] <coz> morning all
[07:49] <gee_cee0> evening
[07:49] <sudhir> whenever I tried to detect modem, its not detecting
[07:49] <coz> have any of ou had trouble with changing resolutions in ubuntu?
[07:49] <n0dl_> Toma-,  i found the exact model number on the list
[07:50] <sudhir> afternoon
[07:50] <n0dl_> sony cybershot dsc w1
[07:50] <durt> nite all
[07:50] <coz> nite durt
[07:50] <Toma-> n0dl: open up a terminal and run dmesg
[07:50] <n0dl_> dmesg
[07:50] <n0dl_> oh whoops
[07:51] <Toma-> hehe
[07:51] <n0dl_> Toma-,  it says device scan complet
[07:51] <Toma-> also n0dl make sure you have libgphoto2-2 installed and gphoto2
[07:51] <n0dl_> yeah it shows up
[07:51] <n0dl_> sudo synaptic
[07:51] <marcus> i dont want to sound stupid, but i just switched from windows, is there a way i can access my second hard drive that is still in ntfs format?
[07:51] <Toma-> hehe
[07:51] <n0dl_> oh crap
[07:51] <n0dl_> whoops
[07:51] <sudhir> plz check --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5034
[07:51] <n0dl_> lol
[07:51] <Toma-> n0dl: lucky someone didnt type "Password:" :D
[07:52] <sudhir> marcus : mount it
[07:52] <dekela> Hi People
[07:52] <dekela> I am looking for the link to the unofficial ubuntu breezer user guide
[07:52] <marcus> sudhir: it wont delete any contents on it will it?
[07:52] <Tedd> Urr. Anyone know Gedit well?
[07:52] <sudhir> marcus : no
[07:53] <sudhir> ntfs is readonly
[07:53] <d03boy> can I upgrade glibc to 2.3.4 with apt?
[07:53] <marcus> sudhur, thats fine with me, it is all just media anyways, i was just sick and tired of windows and needed a change
[07:53] <melong> dldld
[07:53] <melong>   ??
[07:54] <melong>      ?????
[07:54] <SoulPropagation> !kr
[07:54] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: What?
[07:54] <SoulPropagation> !kr!
[07:54] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: I haven't a clue
[07:54] <n0dl_> Toma-,  it still cant detect it
[07:54] <SoulPropagation> !ubuntu-kr
[07:54] <ubotu> SoulPropagation: Are you smoking crack?
[07:54] <sudhir> marcus : yep open ur fstab
[07:54] <n0dl_> even after libghoto and gphoto
[07:55] <dekela> hey gurus
[07:55] <sudhir> marcus : sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:55] <carlos> hola a todos cual es el canal ubuntu en espaol
[07:55] <dekela> anybody knows what is the link to the unofficial guide for breezer?
[07:55] <Madpilot> !es
[07:55] <marcus> ok ill try this lol i feel like an idiot
[07:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:55] <Toma-> n0dl: my brother has a cybershot and his just plugged in and worked :S you havent changed any hotplug settings have you?
[07:55] <morzel> dekeal: i know a good unofficial guide in hungarian
[07:56] <morzel> :D
[07:56] <sudhir> marcus : np even I am idiot too :)
[07:56] <n0dl_> Toma-,  not that i know of
[07:56] <dooglus> apt-get update fails for me: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:56] <Madpilot> dekela: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com/
[07:56] <dooglus> is the gb mirror broken?
[07:57] <n0dl_> Toma-,  you sure theere is nothing else i need?
[07:57] <dekela> Madpilot, Thank
[07:57] <marcus> sudhir:  i just know nothing about this, ive grown up with crappy windows all my life, my boss just showed ubuntu to me the other day, i thought i'd give it a shot, i just dispise microsoft
[07:57] <Toma-> i didnt install anything to get the camera to work
[07:57] <carlos> gracias
[07:58] <jv_> hello everybody!
[07:58] <wmon_> I didn't quit..
[07:58] <jv_> i have a question..how will i view the shared folders in a network?
[07:59] <dooglus> jv_: 'network servers' on the 'places' menu
[08:00] <sudhir> marcus : even I shifted 2 weeks before
[08:00] <jhentux> am using ubuntu 5.10, where can i find the terminal?
[08:00] <jv_> thanks!
[08:00] <sudhir> marcus : and yet to configure modem
[08:00] <n0dl_> can someone help me with gtkam
[08:00] <n0dl_> for some reason its not accepting my camera
[08:00] <wmon_> there's a terminal icon in the top panel (it's a monitor looking thing)
[08:01] <gee_cee0> hmm how do u colour ur nick?
[08:01] <jesse_cool5> jhentux, applications, acsesories
[08:01] <jhentux> firefox, evolution and help icon only.
[08:01] <jesse_cool5> jhentux, you have to ad that icon yourself
[08:02] <wmon_> sorry, I went the the menu jesse_cool5 and dragged it there myself
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> is there an equivalent for apt on mac os X?
[08:02] <jhentux> jesse_cool5, thanks
[08:02] <marcus> sudhur:  yeah i havnt set up anything else yet either, i know my printer doesnt work but i figured i would work on that after i can get to my 2nd hard drive, i still cant figure this out
[08:03] <jhentux> how about the root password. when i installed ubuntu it didnt ask me what i want for the root password
[08:03] <jv_> what is the appropriate program for playing mp3 files here?
[08:03] <davethewave> anyone know how to connect to a windows share? it keeps saying I need to login to access my network but I type in my password, it keeps asking me for it
[08:03] <jesse_cool5> jhentux, just type sudo before the command
[08:03] <gee_cee0> but does ubuntu include a root account at all?
[08:03] <aftertaf> jv_:  beep media, xmms, noatun, rhythmbox etc.....
[08:03] <aftertaf> !tell gee_cee0 about sudo
[08:03] <dooglus> gee_cee0: these's a root account, yes
[08:03] <Madpilot> gee_cee0: no, it uses sudo
[08:04] <jv_> ok, thanks..
[08:04] <dooglus> gee_cee0: the password is locked.  that's all.
[08:04] <Fushi> init 1 you get root o.O
[08:04] <Madpilot> jv_: you'll need to add support for mp3 - Ubuntu can't ship with it
[08:04] <gee_cee0> ohh... so can u actually log in as root?
[08:04] <jv_> how?
[08:04] <Madpilot> !tell jv_ about root
[08:04] <jesse_cool5> jv_, download the w32codecs
[08:04] <Fushi> Yeah I can lol
[08:04] <dooglus> Fushi: you sure?  I thought you got a prompt to enter the root password.
[08:04] <Madpilot> !tell jv_ about mp3
[08:04] <NoUse> !tell jv_ about mp3
[08:04] <Madpilot> jv_: sorry, wrong tell... ;)
[08:05] <jv_> np
[08:05] <Fushi> Well you have to sudo init 1
[08:05] <jesse_cool5> !tell jesse_cool5 about !tell
[08:05] <dooglus> Fushi: even then...
[08:05] <d03boy> how do I install glibc 2.3.4+
[08:05] <jhentux> jesse_cool5, how will i use the add applications under the applications menu then? if i click the icon it will ask for a password.
[08:06] <dooglus> jhentux: type your password, not root's
[08:06] <Fushi> By default, root it your password I belive though?
[08:06] <jv_> how can i download w32codecs?from a browser?
[08:06] <Tedd> can somebody help me
[08:06] <Tedd> with GEdit
[08:06] <guestish> hi
[08:06] <aftertaf> re dapper: anyone else cant start x after xorg updates?
[08:06] <jesse_cool5> jv_, use synaptic after you have respoitory
[08:06] <davethewave> anyone have a link for info on how to access a windows share?
[08:07] <aftertaf> davethewave:  with sambe?
[08:07] <Fushi> What kind of share, you mean like //name/$c
[08:07] <aftertaf> !tell davethewave about samba
[08:07] <guestish> whats the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[08:07] <Tedd> !gedit
[08:07] <ubotu> Tedd: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:07] <Madpilot> jv_: the bot should have sent you a msg - check that for all the details
[08:07] <Tedd> Urg.
[08:07] <guestish> ubotu: who owns you?
[08:07] <ubotu> cafuego
[08:07] <guestish> mmm
[08:08] <davethewave> ty
[08:08] <davethewave> :)
[08:08] <Tedd> Sounds delicious.
[08:08] <guestish> ubotu: what are you?
[08:08] <ubotu> guestish: I think you lost me on that one
[08:08] <Madpilot> Tedd: what's up with Gedit?
[08:08] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:08] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[08:08] <guestish> !blootbot
[08:08] <ubotu> Not a clue, guestish
[08:08] <guestish> dang
[08:08] <guestish> cool
[08:08] <strokey|> anyone here use zd1211wifi with ndiswrapper
[08:08] <guestish> you guys got a blootbot or w/e its called
[08:08] <Tedd> Well, the syntax highlighting wasn't working for bluefish for some reason and it idn't have what I need neway
[08:09] <aftertaf> guestish:  right on ;)
[08:09] <Tedd> And for smoe reason the syntax highlighting for Gedit isn't wokring either
[08:09] <marcus> can anyone help me access my ntfs hard drive??
[08:09] <SoulPropagation> does anyone know how to install opencascade?
[08:09] <guestish> aftertaf: this seriously feels exactly like the debian channel
[08:09] <Madpilot> Tedd: HTML files? PHP? java? what?
[08:09] <Tedd> PHP.
[08:09] <guestish> aftertaf: even the ubuntu installer is the same o_O
[08:09] <guestish> aftertaf: er, as debian, lol
[08:09] <Madpilot> I'm not sure Gedit does PHP; Bluefish should... I haven't done a lot of PHP stuff...
[08:10] <mrkoje> Hello everybody! What is the best way to install 3rd party software? I can't seem to find them using apt-get
[08:10] <jesse_cool5> marcus, http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ have a look there
[08:10] <guestish> Madpilot: gedit is just an editor w/ syntax highlighting, it doesnt do anything
[08:10] <guestish> Madpilot: well i suppose it edits...
[08:10] <Tedd> It has the syntax higlight option for PHP
[08:10] <aftertaf> guestish:  ubuntu is basically a debian with sugar coating
[08:10] <guestish> mrkoje: um...dont is the best option
[08:11] <Tedd> but it's not highlighting
[08:11] <marcus> jesse_cool5:  thank you!
[08:11] <Madpilot> guestish: I know... Tedd was asking about it's highlight, that's all
[08:11] <guestish> aftertaf: what sugar coating?
[08:11] <guestish> Madpilot: ah, missed that
[08:11] <aftertaf> guestish:  each new ubuntu release starts as debian unstable current version
[08:11] <guestish> Tedd: and you manually set it to PHP
[08:11] <Madpilot> aftertaf: "polish", not sugar coating
[08:11] <Tedd> ?
[08:11] <dooglus> aftertaf: I thought it was a chocolate coating
[08:11] <guestish> aftertaf: ya, i know, but i was wondering what the sugar coating/polish was
[08:11] <aftertaf> mrkoje:  depends on what... tho if not in apt, then get some .deb packages.
[08:11] <mrkoje> guestish: What are you talking about don't? Here is an example: I want to install a IAX2 softphone
[08:11] <brlancer> mrkoje: like what? if it's in an apt repository, then that's the best way
[08:11] <guestish> Tedd: how did you tell gedit to syntax highlight php style?
[08:12] <aftertaf> guestish:  the shiny UI, friendlier and works out of the box...;
[08:12] <brlancer> if it's only available as a tarball somewhere, you have to fetch it manually
[08:12] <guestish> mrkoje: 3rd party drivers can be tricky to install and are not recomended unless you wanna really learn how
[08:12] <guestish> aftertaf: shiny UI?
[08:12] <Tedd> Sonovabitch.
[08:12] <Tedd> Thanks
[08:12] <Tedd> I just figured it out
[08:12] <aftertaf> user interface
[08:12] <guestish> Tedd: yeah, np
[08:12] <jv_> i haven't receive msg..is there an easier way?sorry im just new in Linux..im exploring..
[08:12] <mrkoje> brlancer: Iaxcomm is a IAX2 softphone... its not listed in my repos
[08:12] <guestish> aftertaf: looks the same to me...
[08:12] <Tedd> After you said 'set it' I thought the view might d somethin'
[08:12] <Tedd> thanks
[08:12] <mrkoje> another example would be AMsn
[08:12] <guestish> mrkoje: drivers are handled at the kernel level, which you can only access as root
[08:13] <aftertaf> guestish:  yeah but stuff just works (tm), whereas in debian you grind away for hours before it wiorks ;)
[08:13] <mrkoje> Guestish: Im not installing any drivers for hardware
[08:13] <dooglus> !w32codecs
[08:13] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[08:13] <guestish> aftertaf: not really...the installer is the same, the package frontends are the same...its all the same...
[08:13] <aftertaf> guestish:  true, but not true... ;)
[08:13] <guestish> mrkoje: for programs ubuntu uses a format called "deb" to package them and installing 3rd party debs is anything but recomended
[08:13] <guestish> aftertaf: heh, ubuntu even uses debian-installer, i seen no sugar coating =p
[08:14] <aftertaf> guestish:  give a sarge cd to a n00b and he wont have X and automounting usb drives on install
[08:14] <mcc> does anyone know... my mac supports these "local" domain names, like "mymac.local", which anyone on the same subnet can access.
[08:14] <guestish> aftertaf: yes he will...
[08:14] <mcc> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to support these?
[08:14] <mrkoje> is ubuntu uses debian
[08:14] <davethewave> the site says "open the Computer menu, then click on "network" I don't have a computer menu, just Applications, Places, System
[08:14] <guestish> mrkoje: its a subset
[08:14] <aftertaf> guestish:  I didnt ;)
[08:14] <guestish> aftertaf: this before or after D-I?
[08:14] <dooglus> mrkoje: amsn is in the repositories
[08:14] <jv_> ok il download it..
[08:14] <aftertaf> giestD-I ?
[08:14] <d03boy> davethewave, try them all
[08:14] <mrkoje> dooglus: Do I have to add repositories to find it
[08:14] <guestish> aftertaf: debian-installer, what you use to install debian/ubuntu
[08:14] <dooglus> mrkoje: you need to enable the 'universe' repository to get it, yes
[08:15] <dooglus> !universe
[08:15] <ubotu> [repositories]  How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[08:15] <mrkoje> dooglus: thanks
[08:15] <aftertaf> guestish:  i havent installed debian since woody... things may have changed
[08:15] <guestish> mrkoje: a "repository" is a website w/ all the software, it must be accessable in order to get software
[08:15] <guestish> aftertaf: if you installed ubuntu you basically installed sarge with the new installer...
[08:15] <guestish> aftertaf: hence my question
[08:15] <guestish> :)
[08:16] <guestish> not that sarge w/ an installer is a bad thing
[08:16] <gar-> hmmm
[08:16] <dooglus> davethewave: it's called 'places'
[08:16] <aftertaf> guestish:  oki.... :)
[08:16] <gar-> i cant upgrade i get alot of problem =/
[08:16] <guestish> mcc: um, i dont know what mac os X uses for networking, but if its samba, nfs or even apple talk ( i think) its possible to set it up
[08:16] <guestish> aftertaf: =D
[08:17] <guestish> mcc: just gotta figure out which
[08:17] <jhentux> am trying to install nvidia driver, it says i don't have ld installed.
[08:17] <aftertaf> whats the webmin text file i can edit to change which IPs can access my machine remotely?
[08:17] <guestish> jhentux: you need to be root...
[08:17] <mcc> guest, i think it's "zeroconf"
[08:17] <guestish> aftertaf: dont use webmin
[08:17] <aftertaf> jhentux:  try the nvidia factoid
[08:17] <pztak> on a laptop, how can i 'turn off' the lcd.. make it go black?
[08:17] <aftertaf> !tell jhentux about nvidia
[08:17] <guestish> mcc: zeroconf is a conf tool, as it states in the name
[08:17] <mcc> guest: it's normal tcp/ip. it is just that it has some kind of thing where machines can automatically discover each other's names on the same network
[08:17] <jhentux> aftertaf, what's that?
[08:17] <wmon_> g'night all
[08:17] <guestish> mcc: though i could be mistaken, and tcp/ip is a lower level then the protocol
[08:17] <Madpilot> !nvidia
[08:17] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:18] <threeseas> can someone tell me what files I'm looking for to determine how to get wlan to work on the installed ubuntu -- like it does on the live cd?
[08:18] <Madpilot> jhentux: see above ^^^
[08:18] <jesse_cool5> !ati
[08:18] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:18] <aftertaf> guestish:  im on ssh to it right now, and i wanna check out a couple of things, buit i get blocked from work.
[08:18] <guestish> threeseas: depends on the card's chipset...
[08:18] <jhentux> guestish, i typed sudo sh NVIDIA.....
[08:18] <guestish> aftertaf: change the port from the default 22
[08:18] <davethewave> it didn't work, it just keeps asking for my login info, and I enter it.. then it asks again *loop*
[08:18] <aftertaf> jhentux:  try the ubuntu packages, not the website ones.....
[08:18] <guestish> jhentux: read the nvidia howto, if you still have questions come back
[08:18] <jv_> i already downloaded w32codecs.deb..what's next?it can't open through archive manager..
[08:18] <aftertaf> guestish:  eh?
[08:18] <aftertaf> jv_:  you dont... you use dpkg
[08:18] <intmainvoid> Anyone know how to enable dual monitors so it doesn't display clones?
[08:19] <guestish> aftertaf: sounds like they are blocking port 22, just change ports on the server
[08:19] <Madpilot> guestish: remember that Ubuntu uses "sudo" rather than a root user
[08:19] <aftertaf> jv_:  dpkg -i yourdebfile.deb
[08:19] <guestish> Madpilot: all ends up in the same place
[08:19] <La_PaRCa> whats the name of the package that has the basic stuff to build programs from source?
[08:19] <aftertaf> guestish:  nope not that. i AM on ssh to it,
[08:19] <gar-> do ubunto have qmake or qt???? or is supported
[08:19] <crimsun> build-essential, La_PaRCa
[08:19] <jv_> you mean i'l to the terminal like dos prompt in windows?
[08:19] <threeseas> guestish: the cards chipset is the same.... the only thing changing is they method of booting --- from live CD or installed
[08:19] <guestish> aftertaf: then why do you need webmin?
[08:19] <jv_> you mean i'l go to the terminal like dos prompt in windows?
[08:19] <aftertaf> jv_:  oh yeah :]
[08:19] <intmainvoid> Anyone know how to enable dual monitors so it doesn't display clones?
[08:19] <guestish> threeseas: and this chipset is...?
[08:19] <gar-> !qt
[08:19] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[08:19] <guestish> threeseas: (hint, use lspci)
[08:19] <aftertaf> guestish:  i wanna check out some stuff remotely, with a gui ;)
[08:19] <guestish> aftertaf: mm, webmin isnt a gui
[08:20] <guestish> aftertaf: its a lousy way of configuring things :)
[08:20] <davethewave> I will file a bug :)
[08:20] <jv_> what directory can i find the downloaded file?
[08:20] <guestish> aftertaf: vi and nano all the way
[08:20] <jesse_cool5> jv_, depends where you downloaded it to
[08:20] <Fushi> lol
[08:20] <guestish> aftertaf: its not a hair, using webmin is like using a crutch with the top as a spike
[08:20] <aftertaf> jv_:  depends where you d/led to.. try your home directory
[08:20] <guestish> aftertaf: anything breaks and your dead =P
[08:21] <jv_> whats the default directory for that?
[08:21] <guestish> jv_: ~
[08:21] <threeseas> guestish: acx 111
[08:21] <guestish> jv_: its to the left of 1
[08:21] <jesse_cool5> jv_, have a look on your desktop can you see the icon?
[08:21] <benoy> is there a way for totem to play wmv files?
[08:21] <aftertaf> guestish:  right now i dont have X on my home pc anyway. i wanted to check some things out thats all.
[08:21] <intmainvoid> Anyone know how to enable dual monitors so it doesn't display clones?
[08:21] <guestish> threeseas: sadly you gotta use ndiswrapper
[08:21] <gar-> do ubuntu have qmake or qt???? or is supported
[08:21] <guestish> !tell threeseas about ndiswrapper
[08:22] <guestish> gar-: sure, download and install them
[08:22] <Madpilot> benoy: it will, yes
[08:22] <Madpilot> !tell benoy about restricted
[08:22] <threeseas> guestish: so the live cd uses the ndiswrapper?
[08:22] <guestish> aftertaf: im just sayin, either use a real gui or use a console and edit text files, dont use webmin, just my opinion
[08:22] <guestish> threeseas: i would assume so, but i dont know for sure
[08:23] <mrkoje> that worked great!
[08:23] <guestish> aftertaf: your comp, do w/e you think is best
[08:23] <mrkoje> however for software that isn't in the repos I guess I will just have to compile my self
[08:23] <mrkoje> or figure out some other way of installing it
[08:23] <guestish> mrkoje: yes and no
[08:23] <mrkoje> guestish: please go on
[08:23] <guestish> mrkoje: be very careful, installing 3rd party software has a tendency to screw up machines, i know, i've done it, lol
[08:24] <intmainvoid>  Anyone know how to enable dual monitors so it doesn't display clones?
[08:24] <guestish> mrkoje: keep EVERYTHING seperate, all 3rd party and ubuntu software