[07:51] <MeXTuX> I have installed libgtk2.0-dev 2.12.9-3ubuntu5 so is it possible when I try to build the application doesn't know where to find libgtk2.0-dev libraries?? :(
[07:51] <krishmish> i installed samba on my machine
[07:51] <elvis_> DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending
[07:51] <krishmish> i have a ubuntu desktop
[07:51] <krishmish> h4mx0r: ubuntu desktop,
[07:52] <Boohbah> xero: that depends on what kind of firewall/router setup you have
[07:52] <krishmish> h4mx0r: and using the gui, i can share the folder
[07:52] <furythor> ActionParsnip did that, now how I do recognize AGP speed settings, does AGP 3.0 mean that is is 8x ?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> furythor: yep
[07:53] <furythor> ok
[07:53] <kc8pxy> why doesn't apt-get purge --force  or something like it work?
[07:53] <furythor> So is GF4 TI 4800 SE actually using that 8x more and how to see it ?
[07:54] <panzor> kc8pxy: are you root? also, I think "-f" is the same as --force fyi
[07:54] <krishmish> h4mx0r: sorry i had looged out
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> furythor: you can also reduce the output with -C
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> furythor: sudo lshw -C display
[07:55] <Guest24213> Hey people im on Xchat
[07:55] <krishmish> h4mx0r: so per force iam having to check the Guest access
[07:56] <dsl1009> ...
[07:56] <h4mx0r> krishmish: try reading this thread and searching about some http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=533576&highlight=central+authentication
[07:56] <krishmish> h4mx0r: yeah, im going thru it
[07:57] <furythor> ActionParsnip can you check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/183433/ out and say if you get any better insight of specs in it
[07:57] <dsl1009> ls
[07:57] <dsl1009> oops
[07:58] <panzor> hahaha
[07:58] <panzor> been there
[07:58] <zhoujingrui> my ubuntu 8.10 no sound
[07:58] <panzor> what? can't hear you
[07:58] <zhoujingrui> help me with that  thanks
[07:58] <panzor> zhoujingrui: sorry haha, lets have a look
[07:58] <h4mx0r> krishmish: yeah it was this one http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Server-Hacks-Two-Troubleshooting/dp/0596100825
[07:58] <roy> ronal
[07:58] <panzor> zhoujingrui: have you tried typing "alsamixer" and seeing hte levels of things?
[07:59] <zhoujingrui> how to look?
[07:59] <zhoujingrui> yes
[07:59] <panzor> zhoujingrui: are they all reasonable?
[07:59] <zenxr> zhoujingrui: make sure they're not muted, too :)
[08:00] <krishmish> h4mx0r: i have gone thru that
[08:00] <panzor> zhoujingrui: yes, and make sure PCM is at a nice good volume
[08:00] <krishmish> buut i need help in setting up
[08:00] <krishmish> h4mx0r: but i need help in tuning that
[08:00] <cached> panzor: can't even startx. says a file is missing. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg won't run. dont have ndiswrapper set up so i cant connect to internet
[08:00] <zhoujingrui> i think so
[08:00] <krishmish> h4mx0r: and since im new to ubuntu, i would prefer a GUI
[08:00] <zhoujingrui> all truned to 00
[08:01] <zhoujingrui> and to red color
[08:01] <panzor> cached: oh...boy. Umm, hold on.
[08:01] <cached> panzor: at least i know how to mysqldump, so i have all the files i need in some form
[08:02] <Tasbuntu> Hey, can anyone explain to me the difference between 32 and 64bit?
[08:02] <panzor> cached: if I were you, I'd manually reinstall nvidia, but that's only because I've done that recently and know exactly what my hardware/software needs to do that...
[08:02] <krishmish> h4mx0r: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[08:02] <panzor> cached: you say you have backups of everything? I'd use those haha
[08:02] <frankS2> ?gftp
[08:02] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: 64bit means you can use over 3GB of RAM
[08:03] <Tasbuntu> Over 3GB? It wasnt 4?
[08:03] <dsl1009> Tasbuntu, a good analogy would be the difference b/w a 4 lane highway and an 8 lane highway
[08:03] <krishmish> h4mx0r: can we start from there
[08:03] <krishmish> h4mx0r: ?
[08:03] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: however some applications won't run without a bit of prodding
[08:03] <h4mx0r> krishmish: ah thanks nice link
[08:03] <Tasbuntu> Allright
[08:03] <h4mx0r> krishmish: which part you on?
[08:03] <whatvn> Tasbuntu: http://www.google.com.vn/search?q=32+bit+vs+64+bit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[08:03] <UFO_IRC_TEST> when i try to install ubuntu with standard way,the patition manager said i have bad sector,so i have to check my disk in windows first.
[08:03] <raylu> dlemaitre: hardly. 64-bit processors aren't twice as fast
[08:03] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: no, 32bit can only address ~3.2GB of RAM
[08:03] <raylu> oops
[08:03] <cached> Tasbuntu: theoretically or practically? theoretically, it means that each register of your computer can contain 64 bits of data, allowing for fast computations with big numbers and ability to use big numbers to access memory. practically, it means that if you run 64 bit you might see slight improvement in some things, but problems in others due to incompatabilities
[08:04] <raylu> dsl1009: hardly. 64-bit processors aren't twice as fast
[08:04] <panzor> Tasbuntu: 32 bit is more supported. I'd go for that unless you plan on video editing or something that actually needs more than 3 gigs.
[08:04] <persistent_code> is there a version of > that flushes on every write? Some code i'm working with crashes the OS, so I need > to flush in order for me to read the output later.
[08:04] <UFO_IRC_TEST> but no matter how many time i check my disk
[08:04] <krishmish> h4mx0r: lemme check till where i could finish
[08:04] <Tasbuntu> Well, the thing is I'm gonna upgrade to 4GB's soon, I play games alot and such, soo
[08:04] <UFO_IRC_TEST> yi still can't manage my partition
[08:04] <frankS2> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T2370  @ 1.73GHz
[08:04] <frankS2> stepping        : 13
[08:04] <frankS2> cpu MHz         : 800.000
[08:04] <frankS2> whats wrong here?
[08:04] <raylu> ziroday, Tasbuntu: 4 is correct, but reserved space and memory in other devices
[08:04] <FloodBot2> frankS2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:04] <frankS2> why doesnt it say 1.73GHZ
[08:05] <Tasbuntu> reserved space and memory in..wha?
[08:05] <Tasbuntu> I don't get it, I'm afraid xD
[08:05] <Slart> frankS2: it does.. right there on the first line..?
[08:05] <raylu> persistent_code: what language are you talking about? what you're after is "unbuffered" i/o
[08:05] <frankS2> Slart: cpu mhz: 800
[08:05] <panzor> Tasbuntu: rumor has it that ubuntu 32-bit uses 3 gigs for everything, and reserves the 4th gig for just the kernel. Not a waste :)...or maybe I'm just optimistic about my own folley of buying 4 gigs...
[08:05] <Slart> frankS2: powersaving? it's a feature
[08:05] <whatvn> who say 32 bit cannot use more than 3GB ram?
[08:05] <frankS2> Slart: and on the first line it says 1.73GhZ
[08:05] <Tasbuntu> Ah, but you see, the thing is I don't only use Ubuntu
[08:05] <raylu> Tasbuntu: you can address 4GB of virtual space, but not all of it is in RAM and some of it is reserved by the kernel
[08:05] <kenyon> frankS2: you have CPU governor for saving energy.
[08:05] <evilGary> frankS2: most newer intel chips slow down when not used
[08:06] <raylu> panzor: where the hell did you hear that rumor?
[08:06] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: if you are using 4GB of RAM, then you need to have the 64bit version
[08:06] <kenyon> frankS2: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[08:06] <Tasbuntu> I figured
[08:06] <Tasbuntu> Thank you
[08:06] <Tasbuntu> Any things that might give me trouble? Specifically Compiz-Fusion and WINE
[08:06] <panzor> raylu: back alley. Bad people, bad activities. It was horrible.
[08:06] <Slart> frankS2: it will increase the frequency when the cpu has something to do.. it's quite normal
[08:06] <raylu> ziroday: or a bigmem kernel
[08:06] <ziroday> raylu: yes, but desktop users don't want to run the server kernel do they now?
[08:06] <furythor> Can anyone assist me to determine little more details of my system ?
[08:07] <raylu> ziroday: you can compile it from scratch :D
[08:07] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: some applications may have difficulty running, wine may be a worry
[08:07] <panzor> has anyone gotten PAE to work with their kernel to get more than 3?
[08:07] <ziroday> raylu: we do not recommend compiling kernels from scratch here
[08:07] <Tasbuntu> can you name a few for me?
[08:07] <krishmish> h4mx0r: im using hardy
[08:07] <ziroday> panzor: to use PAE you need to use the server kernel
[08:07] <raylu> ziroday: yes we do:
[08:07] <raylu> !kernel
[08:08] <ziroday> raylu: yes, and the above examples do not need to.
[08:08] <panzor> ziroday: yeah, but it avoids the 64-bit stuff
[08:08] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: not any of the top of my head sorry. #winehq will know more
[08:09] <kenyon> wow, I think the 64 vs. 32 bit debate appears here at least every 24 hours.
[08:09] <panzor> that's why I always wear my jersey!
[08:09] <Tasbuntu> allright, thanks
[08:09] <ziroday> panzor: what applications are you worried about?
[08:09] <krishmish> h4mx0r: samba is already installed
[08:09] <panzor> ziroday: KDE, compiz, wine, the apacolypse...uh
[08:09] <panzor> wrong guy dude :P
[08:09] <h4mx0r> krismish: why did you link me to the 9.04 page then if your using 8.10
[08:10] <ziroday> panzor: which applications under wine?
[08:10] <panzor> ziroday: didn't ask the question, I was joking :P
[08:10] <h4mx0r> krishmish: wait no hardy that's 8.04
[08:10] <raylu> the apocolypse runs perfectly fine in wine. in fact, it even runs on solaris.
[08:10] <cached> brb, restarting
[08:10] <raylu> and tasbuntu is gone...
[08:10] <krishmish> h4mx0r: yeah
[08:10] <panzor> no effing way XD
[08:11] <panzor> raylu is my hero
[08:11] <panzor> see you all later - time to sleep
[08:11] <krishmish> h4mx0r: in order to allow some windows machines to be able to view the shared folder in the ubuntu machine, i want to allow access through a username and password
[08:13] <sexcopter> hi, when I ssh from my laptop into my pc (both on a home lan), it takes a long time (> 10 seconds) to prompt for my password, and about as much time again to accept it. can anyone think what is causing the lag?
[08:13] <ziroday> sexcopter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84399
[08:14] <sexcopter> ziroday: thanks!
[08:14] <sexcopter> ziroday: too bad that ipv6 seems to be the culprit. I thought we were trying to encourage its use!
[08:15] <ziroday> sexcopter: *shrug* I don't know how all technical details behind ipv6 works, or why it makes some things slow
[08:16] <sexcopter> ziroday: hmm, i just tried ssh -4, and it took just as long.
[08:16] <sexcopter> well, it's not a big deal, just a nuisance
[08:16] <ziroday> sexcopter: thats the only known issue I know about, sorry
[08:16] <d0htem> where is the default vim global config file
[08:16] <sexcopter> ziroday: no problem, thanks anyway
[08:16] <ziroday> sexcopter: is the machine in your LAN or somewhere else in the internet?
[08:17] <sexcopter> ziroday: both on lan. pc is wired, laptop is wireless (.g)
[08:17] <ziroday> d0htem: /etc/vimrc
[08:17] <ziroday> sexcopter: then no idea sorry
[08:18] <d0htem> ziroday: in the vimrc file what would be correct syntax for changing the colorscheme ( if you know )
[08:18] <ziroday> d0htem: no idea sorry, don't use vim
[08:19] <d0htem> :/ thx anyways
[08:20] <kenyon> d0htem: :h colors
[08:24] <kimda> hello. How can i erase an tape faster than with the command mt -f /dev/nst0 erase?
[08:25] <dsl1103> this may not be the best answer but I'd use dd to clear a block device
[08:26] <BigV> Hey all, I'm currently having an issue with a fresh install of Ubuntu. None of my personalised settings stay when I reboot the PC. In addition, Firefox doesn't keep any history, I can't even use the back button. It's like I dont have write access to whatever part Ubuntu uses to store these sorts of things.
[08:27] <BigV> Im using 9.04. I have never had this issue before. :/
[08:27] <ziroday> BigV: this is a fresh install? Are you running of a thumbdrive?
[08:27] <ubuntu__> BigV have you actually installed it
[08:28] <dsl1103> lol
[08:28] <unop_> BigV,   does this command return anything?   find ~/ ! -user "$USER"
[08:28] <BigV> ziroday: Yes its all installed, running off an HD, not a thumbdrive
[08:28] <kimda> thanks dsl1103. i've thought about this also but maybe there was another mt command i could use to speed things up.
[08:29] <BigV> unop_: it returns nothing
[08:29] <ubuntu__> BigV have you gone through the Installer located as a desktop icon which says "Install"
[08:29] <ziroday> ubuntu__: that is not the issue. The issue is BigV has no home folder for some reason
[08:29] <ziroday> BigV: try create a new user and see if that fixes it
[08:29] <BigV> Yes, I've installed Ubuntu many time before and have ti running on my laptop as well. I haven't done anyhting different
[08:29] <BigV> times*
[08:29] <unop_> ziroday, and how do you conclude that?
[08:30] <BigV> ziroday: thanks I will give it a go
[08:30] <ziroday> unop_: does your command above not search for a home dir (or anything in it)?
[08:30] <IL12> how can I do a secure erase on all empty space in a server install?
[08:30] <unop_> ziroday, it looks for files that he is not the owner of in his homedir
[08:30] <ziroday> BigV: also did you create /home on seperate partition?
[08:31] <ziroday> unop_: ah apologies, I misunderstood :)
[08:31] <notsoemo1> I'm having trouble configuring jack, it fails every time I try to start it
[08:31] <BigV> No I let Ubuntu handle the partitioning automatically. Its dual booted with Windos XP
[08:32] <BigV> I do have a home directory. With a folder "black" which is my username
[08:32] <BigV> but I will try creating a new one
[08:32] <BigV> hrm, so the Add User is greyed out. lol
[08:33] <dsl1103> quit
[08:33] <dsl1103> dammit
[08:34] <darlek> whatzzup
[08:35] <BigV> I guess I could just install it again... It's not like it takes that long. This problem is weird.
[08:37] <darlek> which problem?
[08:37] <mobi-sheep> !key
[08:38] <BigV> darlek: i have a weird issue with a fresh install of ubuntu, I cant create new users, firefox doesnt save any history, cant even use the back button, and gnome doesnt save any of my customisations
[08:39] <darlek> yikes...
[08:39] <darlek> does nautilus show all files with a lock on them?
[08:40] <BigV> no thats the thing, i still have full power, i can change system settings, mount settings, install new software, read/write any files i want
[08:40] <darlek> doh
[08:40] <unop_> BigV, did you try creating and using a new user?
[08:40] <darlek> hmm...
[08:40] <BigV> i cant
[08:40] <arand> BigV: what kind of permissions are your home dir?
[08:41] <BigV> the add user button is blanked out, and i cant alter any settings in the user and groups thing
[08:41] <unop_> BigV,   sudo  adduser new_username
[08:41] <tdn> After upgrading to Kubuntu 9.04, ny disk keeps spinning down, when I am not using it. Even when I'm on AC Power. This is very annoying and probably damaging my disk. How do I make it stop?
[08:41] <darlek> well, if he's not getting results though I'd say instead.. xterm, su sudo to get root and then try adduser
[08:41] <arand> BigV: Does this happen every time or just now?
[08:42] <BigV> wierd, it says im not the owner and i cant change the permissions
[08:42] <BigV> every time
[08:42] <unop_> darlek, su sudo is redundant ..  sudo -i
[08:42] <mobi-sheep> How would I add a key using CLI?
[08:42] <unop_> mobi-sheep, key to what exactly?
[08:42] <darlek> I had something similar in Ibex but not to this scale (limited to mounted devices)
[08:43] <mobi-sheep> unop_: For one user's PPA.
[08:44] <unop_> mobi-sheep,   gpg –recv-keys "$KEY";  gpg –export –armor "$KEY" | sudo apt-key add -
[08:44] <unop_> BigV, tried the new user yet?
[08:44] <darlek> rebuilding gnome by deleting all it's associated directories, on login it rebuilds them
[08:44] <BigV> unop_: just created it, ill give it a try now
[08:44] <darlek> maybe whatever is stuck will get unstuck
[08:44] <mobi-sheep> unop_: https://launchpad.net/~kow/+archive/ppa ?
[08:45] <Symbiosss> how i can update xorg after update my ubuntu
[08:45] <Symbiosss> i cant use some combinations of keys
[08:45] <unop_> mobi-sheep, https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories
[08:46] <darlek> Sym: find your xorg.conf file and note that it's basically blank.  However your previous one may still be in the same directory under a renamed name.
[08:46] <mespejel> hello i have some boring newbie questions about ubuntu and linux.. i am interest in ubuntu so. i wonder if someone is in good mood to help me. maybe this is not the correct room?
[08:46] <mib_9n53ng> hey all, have a question.  going to be setting up a dual boot sys, ubu and xp.  but main question is my data, which will be on a main, huge, partion, around 200gb.  thing is, what file system would be best, fat32 or ntfs???
[08:47] <Slart> mespejel: sure.. just ask your questions
[08:47] <unop_> mib_9n53ng, ntfs
[08:47] <Slart> mib_9n53ng: I would go with ntfs
[08:47] <Nom-> FAT32 is evil, definately NTFS :)
[08:48] <darlek> ditto
[08:48] <Slart> ntfs isn't evil?? =)
[08:48] <Nom-> Not that NTFS isn't even either, but it's lesser of two evils.
[08:48] <Nom-> *evil
[08:48] <mib_9n53ng> unop_: Slart why would it be better?  have the rread write issues been resolved properly while on the ubu side, aand accessing, wrtiing data, to ntfs partion
[08:48] <mespejel> Slart: thanks. So what is the difference between Gnome, GTK2, Compiz, Emerald and E17? :)
[08:48] <unop_> one could argue that NTFS is evil-er than FAT32 .. but that's a topic for another day
[08:48] <mespejel> Slart: I am just extremely confused.
[08:48] <ubuntu__> hey
[08:48] <mobi-sheep> unop_: Many gracious.
[08:48] <Samae> Is Ubuntu recomends only for intel boards?
[08:49] <ubuntu__> have u guys used the rc1 windows 7 already?
[08:49] <darlek> if it has a pulse, Ubuntu will run on it
[08:49] <unop_> mib_9n53ng, well it supports things like compression, encryption, permissions, etc .. and the RW issue has been sorted, pretty much yea
[08:49] <Slart> mespejel: wow.. most of those are different things.. and I don't mean different ways of doing the same thing.. different things altogether
[08:50] <darlek> haven't touched win for two years now.  Only have to use it outside the home
[08:50] <Samae> So it only suggest Intel procesor only
[08:50] <ubuntu__> windows 7 is great
[08:50] <Slart> mespejel: I think wikipedia has some good articles on these things.. but I'll try to explain anyways
[08:50] <talishte> fortune!
[08:50] <ubuntu__> even dare i say better than ubuntu
[08:50] <mib_9n53ng> unop_: cool, i was trying to steer away from windows though... i hate it.  lol.  but sadly, it is needed.  what about ext3 as the main super partiion, can i get winxp to read from ext3 at all?
[08:50] <mobi-sheep> ubuntu__: Can Window 7 get viruses?  Yes it is great! :)
[08:51] <ubuntu__> no in windows seven viruses are disabled no more viruses on windows
[08:51] <Slart> mespejel: gnome is .. a framework.. it comes with stuff like a registry like database for application settings..
[08:52] <Slart> mespejel: a structure for how applications should behave.. what they can do etc etc
[08:52] <darlek_> mib: I hadn't heard that xp can read ext3 but if ubuntu is running on that then /home in nfts partition that might work and allow for sharing of files?
[08:52] <mobi-sheep> ubuntu__: I see "Windows 7 beta affected by Vista viruses" on Google :)
[08:52] <marlun> Is there a changeset viewer for ubuntu so I can view changesets for different packages?
[08:52] <BigV> unop_: It didnt work unfortunately. I tried to log in and I just got a black screen, still with a responding cursor, cant use crtlaltdel or ctrlaltbackspc, so I rebooted and same thing.
[08:52] <darlek_> that way if ubuntu dies you can kill the partition without taking your files with it
[08:53] <myself> hey
[08:53] <myself> someone give me a list of mp3 players for ubuntu
[08:53] <mobi-sheep> !hi | myself
[08:53] <mobi-sheep> !mp3 | myself
[08:53] <myself> hey thanks guys thanks for welcoming me
[08:53] <mib_9n53ng> darlek: yes i know, i have expereinced that horror, that is why it  will be 3 main partiions, xp, ubu, and main storadge
[08:53] <mobi-sheep> !player | myself
[08:53] <Slart> mespejel: gtk is another kind of framework for doing application guis, if I'm correct
[08:53] <unop_> BigV, did you say this install was a fresh install ?
[08:53] <myself> thank you
[08:54] <mobi-sheep> myself: You're welcome! :)
[08:54] <myself> i love you
[08:54] <BigV> unop_:yup, just finish an hour or so ago
[08:54] <darlek_> mib: good call.  Been there with Ibex haha
[08:54] <BigV> finished*
[08:54] <sll> hello everybody! I'm interested to obtain a bluetoooth hedset, remonendations and suggestions are welcome thanks!
[08:54] <mespejel> Slart: yeah im reading that gtk2 is the tools kits to make gnome
[08:54] <Samae> what is the best video editing in Ubuntu?
[08:54] <mespejel> so i kind of similar i guess
[08:54] <darlek_> BigV: can you run the LiveCD?
[08:54] <mib_9n53ng> darlek: yah, i have been thru crashes on every distro release since 5.10
[08:54] <BigV> darlek: havent tried
[08:54] <unop_> BigV, sounds like something went wrong during the install .. this is very odd
[08:55] <mib_9n53ng> everything is backeed up, always
[08:55] <Slart> mespejel: compiz is a system where you basically don't draw stuff to the graphics screen directly.. you draw it to compiz.. then compiz takes all the windows and decides how to place them on the screen.. so compiz can decide that one window should be spinning around.. and the application doesn't have to deal with it..
[08:55] <unop_> BigV, open up a terminal and issue this command.   sudo aptitude reinstall '~i'
[08:55] <sll> Samae: isn't easy to answer this quaswtion... depends.. take a look at cinelerra, openmovie editor...
[08:55] <Slart> mespejel: yes.. gnome uses gtk2, I think
[08:55] <mobi-sheep> Samae: sudo apt-cache search video | grep edit
[08:55] <mobi-sheep> Samae: Not all packages are for video editting.
[08:55] <darlek_> mib: oh really?  I've been quite lucky.  Also since 5.10.  Only Ibex flirted with disaster but was overcome.  Luckily I didn't use it for long and quickly went to Jaunty
[08:56] <AdvoWork> hi there. ive got an axis network camera on our network, but im not sure of the IP, is there a way I can scan the network to find out where it is?
[08:56] <Samae> I was thinking alternative of afterEffects and Priemere
[08:56] <darlek_> been using the same PIII lappy with external keyboard to save the motherboard glue :))
[08:56] <BigV> unop: whoa, that looks like everything lol
[08:56] <mib_9n53ng> darlek yah, since 5.10.  my main issues, are hardware that will crash and kill things
[08:56] <mib_9n53ng> leanred that lesson the hard way
[08:56] <mib_9n53ng> many times
[08:56] <unop_> BigV, yes, it will take a while - time for a coffee break :)
[08:57] <nizaexe> Um, hi?
[08:57] <anodesni> I have an iso in ~/.latex/texlive2007-live-20070212.iso that I want to mount automatically on login, how to do this?
[08:57] <Slart> mespejel: what else...Emerald.. well.. to make Gnome easier to customize it doesn't draw the borders around the windows ... it just has something like a plugin that does that.. Emerald is one such plugin.. it's called a window-decorator
[08:57] <ubuntu__> guys any help on installing os x themes how do i apply it after  i download it?
[08:58] <Juliiiie> salut les copains
[08:58] <Slart> mespejel: there are other window-decorators.. but Emerald works nicely with compiz.. not sure if it's compiz-only or just good with compiz
[08:58] <krisss117> hi, can u help me ? where i can download airoscript ? My airoscript don't work :/
[08:58] <BigV> unop: sweet well i need to go out anyway. thanks for your help so far. if it doesn't work I'll just do a fresh install as it might be possible something else has gone wrong which will crop up at some annoyingly unexpected time lol. night and thanks again
[08:58] <BigV> thanks to the other ppl who gave some suggestions :D
[08:58] <mobi-sheep> Slart: Emerald is not supported if you didn't know that. :)
[08:58] <mib_9n53ng> but yah, main reason i have to do all this is cause im buying an itouch
[08:58] <mobi-sheep> !emerald
[08:58] <darlek_> BigV: good luck
[08:58] <mib_9n53ng> i need an mp3 player
[08:58] <Slart> mespejel: I think gtk was what did these things before compiz
[08:58] <mib_9n53ng> and portable gps
[08:59] <BigV> thanks darlek, see ya
[08:59] <Slart> mobi-sheep: uh?.. what are we using in ubuntu these days?
[08:59] <mobi-sheep> Slart: Compiz.
[08:59] <moll> Can I burn .ts directly to a dvd that will play in my standalone dvd player?
[08:59] <moll> .ts file ..
[08:59] <darlek_> mib: mplayer, mpg321, audacious... all free.. all the time
[08:59] <mobi-sheep> Slart: To be more precise, Compiz-Fusion.  I think.   No more emerald though. :)
[08:59] <mespejel> Slart: so compiz is a window manager. and emerald like a decorator
[09:00] <mespejel> so if get emerald i dont need the gtk2 themes from www.gnome-look.org?
[09:00] <mespejel> can't mix i guess
[09:00] <billybigrigger> can someone help me mount a raid setup from my 9.10 install? im in 9.04 live cd right now. i can't mount sda1 or sdb1, and md0 isn't showing...
[09:00] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.com/m5ecd9eba
[09:00] <mib_9n53ng> darlek: naw man, i need a portable one.  and i havent really read any positive reviews on any aps that simply will allow me to connect, transfer, dissconnect, and be on my way
[09:00] <mib_9n53ng> darlek: ill have to do it from win xp side unfortunately
[09:01] <pvh_sa|wrk> heya all... i got an ubuntu 8.10 box acting as a firewall/router. rather odd issue... if i have default MTU, then desktops on our net which run Linux and Mac can't load facebook. if i change the MTU on the router's outbound interface to 1400, then facebook works. why should the MTU have this effect???
[09:01] <darlek_> mib: ah, I just use my NDS which uses microSD ;)  You might consider a SD based mp3 player so you have that flexibility too
[09:01] <Slart> mobi-sheep: huh.. didn't know that.. thanks..
[09:01] <Slart> mespejel: yes
[09:02] <moll> Can I burn .ts video file directly to a dvd that will play in my standalone dvd player?
[09:02] <Nicolas__> Hello! I'm having a problem..I'm having a big problem installing "Adobe Flash Player" on Ubuntu 9.04(or 9.08, most recent version!). I got the .tar.gz of the installer...I don't know how to use it.
[09:02] <Slart> mobi-sheep: hmm.. I'm running the gtk-window-decorator it seems.
[09:02] <krisss117> hi, ubuntu don't show my pendrive - Voyager 8GB
[09:02] <mib_9n53ng> darlek: yah, i used to do that, and i used to use my psp, tro big though.  so, i need a unit capable of skype, music, gps, web browsing, organizer, ebook reader, learning software, some simple games, in one unit
[09:02] <mespejel> Slart: is there any tips for 9.04 to get it run even faster? and also get a faster boot? i know it is already fast but i wonder if there are tricks?
[09:03] <mib_9n53ng> unfortunaly, only apple offers a relatively good choice
[09:03] <mobi-sheep> Slart: Probably metacity.
[09:03] <yikesno> I just installed Ubuntu on a third machine and two of them have a weird issue. When I open a window with selectable options like System -> Administrator -> Services the window is blank. I've unlocked the control by entering my password and it is still blank. This is a fresh full install. also programs like gPodder have the issue where the list has options but shows blank. Any ideas?
[09:03] <Slart> mobi-sheep: nope.. compiz
[09:03] <Aryaan> Hi, I've trouble with the 'hibernate' option on ubuntu 8.04
[09:03] <billybigrigger> can someone help me mount a raid setup from my 9.10 install? im in 9.04 live cd right now. i can't mount sda1 or sdb1, and md0 isn't showing...
[09:03] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.com/m5ecd9eba
[09:03] <darlek_> rats ^^$$$^^
[09:03] <mobi-sheep> Slart: Well, I see.  I suppose Compiz + Emerald would only bring more confusion and clash with each others.  Too many bugs. :)
[09:04] <Aryaan> Can anyone help me to get Hibernate work on Ubuntu 8.04
[09:04] <Slart> mobi-sheep: mm... there were bugs indeed.. once again.. thanks
[09:04] <mobi-sheep> Slart: No problem.
[09:04] <mib_9n53ng> hmmm actually, question to all, might help a hell of a lot.  anyone using an i touch here?  what app do you use for file transfers/??
[09:04] <Nicolas__> Hello! I'm having a problem..I'm having a big problem installing "Adobe Flash Player" on Ubuntu 9.04(or 9.08, most recent version!). I got the .tar.gz of the installer...I don't know how to use it.
[09:04] <Slart> mespejel: well.. there are some things you can do.. you can make the startup-scripts run concurrently.. ie several scripts run at the same time
[09:05] <Slart> mespejel: it didn't change much for me.. but it's one of those things that people keep recommending
[09:06] <Slart> mespejel: bah.. I have to reboot.. be back
[09:07] <mespejel> Slart: there are many bugs using compiz and emerald?
[09:07] <Aryaan> Someone tell me how to get hibernate working on Ubuntu
[09:07] <mib_9n53ng> o yah, and no vboxing, ideally, already thought of it, but this from an epc 1000h
[09:07] <Nicolas__> Hello! I'm having a problem..I'm having a big problem installing "Adobe Flash Player" on Ubuntu 9.04(or 9.08, most recent version!). I got the .tar.gz of the installer...I don't know how to use it.
[09:07] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: There are bugs for everything.  >:}~
[09:07] <mespejel> mobi-sheep: you dont recommend using compiz with emerald?
[09:07] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: No. See above
[09:07] <mobi-sheep> !emerald | mespejel
[09:08] <darlek__> yikesno: I'd just change them though, not delete any first
[09:08] <billybigrigger> does anyone know how to re-create md0 from a raid 1 array?
[09:08] <onexused> mobi-sheep: This makes me sad "There are no known, supported alternatives."
[09:08] <billybigrigger> i can see my 2 disks, but no md0
[09:08] <billybigrigger> im in livecd
[09:08] <cm21> Hello!... I have runing ubuntu 9.04, but I don't know how to change the brightness of the screen (destock PC)
[09:08] <mespejel> ubottu: thanks
[09:08] <mespejel> ubottu: sorry
[09:08] <mobi-sheep> onexused: You'll live.  Compiz is fine.  It's just an appearance. ):
[09:09] <mib_9n53ng> so, no itouch owners here?
[09:09] <light50> Nicolas__: did you try installing the flash plugin from Applications > Add/Remove...
[09:09] <darlek__> cm21: Intel chips with DEll have a problem resetting the brightness, you might want to check the ubuntuforums if that's the case here
[09:09] <mespejel> mobi-sheep: what you mean? so what is unsupported? emerald or compiz?
[09:09] <mobi-sheep> cm21: You're using laptop?
[09:10] <kenyon> !flash | Nicolas__
[09:10] <cm21> I have a VIA Unichrome pro
[09:10] <Aryaan> Someone tell me how to get hibernate working on Ubuntu
[09:10] <cm21> no laptop
[09:10] <mespejel> mobi-sheep: compiz is unsupported?
[09:10] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: Stick with compiz.  Appearances --> Visual Effects --> Toggle on.
[09:10] <cm21> crt monitor
[09:10] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: Compiz is supported.  Emerald isn't.
[09:10] <mobi-sheep> cm21: If you're using laptop, there should be a FN + Brightness / Darkness Symbol on the keyboard.
[09:11] <joetheodd> Whats the easiest way to install Hurd in place of Linux?
[09:11] <mespejel> mobi-sheep: so i can't mix compiz with other window manager? how can i docorate copmiz?
[09:11] <mespejel> compiz*
[09:11] <soloslinger> quick snmp question: installed snmp, snmpconf works without a hitch, moved the generated config file to the place it told me too, /etc/init.d/ doesn't have a snmp start up script.  Am I missing something?
[09:11] <mobi-sheep> !compiz | mespejel
[09:11] <mobi-sheep> !ccsm | mespejel
[09:11] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: There you go. :)
[09:12] <mikeyfbi> i need some help changing my firefox theme colors
[09:12] <jvainio> hey, is there a SEARCH feature in APTGET?
[09:12] <Aryaan> Is there a solution for the hibernate troubles on Hardy
[09:12] <mikeyfbi> im using slickness-black ubuntu theme, and it makes some text in FF unreadable
[09:12] <mobi-sheep> jvainio: apt-cache search <xyz-package>
[09:12] <jvainio> when i try to go apt-get search something, it says ERROR NO SUCH COMMAND
[09:12] <mikeyfbi> ie facebook chat input text
[09:12] <darlek> jvainio:  sudo apt-cache search whateverI'mlookingfor
[09:12] <jvainio> ah
[09:12] <jvainio> ok
[09:12] <jvainio> thanks a lot mates
[09:12] <darlek> cheers
[09:13] <kenyon> apt-cache doesn't need to be run with sudo
[09:13] <mobi-sheep> jvainio: You also can use "aptitude search <xyz>" for name of packages.  If you want to search description too, just use the earlier command I gave you.
[09:13] <mikeyfbi> anyone know how to edit firefox text css?
[09:13] <mespejel> mobi-sheep: do you know any tricks to boot even more faster? to gain about 5 seconds?
[09:13] <darlek> habit I guess
[09:13] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: Laptop / Computer?
[09:13] <jvainio> and if the command doesnt find anything, it doesnt print anything out, right_
[09:14] <mespejel> mobi-sheep: laptop
[09:14] <darlek> jva: then the word isn't there
[09:14] <darlek> what are you looking for?
[09:14] <darlek> it might be under a different name that you expect
[09:14] <cm21> no solution for mi then?
[09:15] <darlek> also under your current system, type apropos whateveritIS , and that will check current files
[09:15] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: Well, I know / heard that ext4 run faster than ext3.  And I'm using ext4 myself too.  You can also check out System --> Administration --> Services || System --> Preferences --> Startup Applications.  There also are BUM for rundown level.
[09:15] <mobi-sheep> !info bum | mespejel
[09:15] <jvainio> darlek: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup
[09:15] <jvainio> straight Dcrawl will do
[09:15] <jvainio> but stone soup would be so much better
[09:15] <darlek> ext3 is well established though and fine for most systems.
[09:15] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: However, to truly achieve a fast bootup, you'd have to step out of Ubuntu distro and start using something like Gentoo / ArchLinux.
[09:15] <mikeyfbi> anyone have experience editing the firefox userChrome.css?
[09:16] <alakoo> wtf did just happen, my theme changed without making any chances
[09:16] <alakoo> The system also set up sounds when starting programs
[09:17] <jvainio> darlek: now it says it cannot even install basic crawl
[09:17] <jvainio> that it cannot "Lock installation folder"
[09:17] <jvainio> wtf
[09:17] <alakoo> now I re-selected "clearlooks" and the sounds are gone
[09:17] <darlek> jvo: got about 1000 hits on google with Dungeon crawl stone soup ubuntu, so some hope there
[09:17] <Aryaan> maybe you've opened synaptic too, jvainio
[09:18] <darlek> you might have to compile the latest version though
[09:18] <kenyon> !info crawl | darlek
[09:18] <neurochrome> Noticed that the streamtuner shoutcast feeds are not working in jaunty.  Is there any way to fix this?
[09:18] <jvainio> darlek: i have the newest ubuntu and i just updated
[09:18] <mespejel> mobi-sheep: why is this? this distros are more light?
[09:18] <darlek> ubottu: yep, just learned that now haha
[09:18] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: When you install Ubuntu -- It came with pre-installed packages.
[09:19] <jvainio> Aryaan: No i DO NOT have synaptic open
[09:19] <kenyon> jvainio: pastebin the exact errors
[09:19] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: You're asking to slim down on bootup process.
[09:19] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: Quote --> "Everything is faster when you just do it yourself (tm)."
[09:19] <jvainio> kenyon: roger
[09:20] <darlek> http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Dungeon-Crawl-Stone-Soup-Download-27175.html
[09:20] <darlek> or other somesuch google hit
[09:21] <jvainio> ok have them here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/183487/
[09:21] <jvainio> i need G++ right
[09:21] <darlek> no doubt
[09:21] <kenyon> crawl is in the ubuntu archives, no need to download from softpedia
[09:21] <jvainio> but when trying to get it thru apt get it says no package like g available
[09:21] <jvainio> but i want the Tiled version and the stone soup version
[09:21] <jvainio> which i have a source for on my comp now
[09:22] <Symbiosss> how to reinstall gnome?
[09:22] <kenyon> jvainio: why are you trying to compile it? why not sudo aptitude install crawl?
[09:22] <jvainio> because it is the basic crawl. id rather have the Tiled Stone Soup version
[09:22] <jvainio> even untiled Stone Soup will do
[09:22] <jvainio> but SS it is, because it is MUCH MUCH more balanced
[09:22] <jvainio> its the same game with diff rulesets
[09:22] <kenyon> did you read the documentation that came with the package on how to compile?
[09:23] <kenyon> you probably need to run ./configure first
[09:23] <jvainio> yeah, id need a bunch of packaged
[09:23] <jvainio> s
[09:23] <darlek> with gcc/g++ install build_essential just in case, helpful in compilation
[09:23] <jvainio> but cannot retrieve them
[09:23] <darlek> kenyon: he needs a compiler first ;)
[09:23] <kenyon> !info build-essential | jvainio
[09:23] <jvainio> yeah the install says error no g++
[09:23] <jvainio> so apt get that ok..
[09:24] <kenyon> darlek: no, you can run ./configure without a compiler
[09:24] <jvainio> hmm it still says ERROR cannot LOCK install dir
[09:24] <mespejel> mobi-sheep: yeah that's what im asking.. but i like ubuntu. there is no way i can work on that using ubuntu?
[09:24] <jvainio> but i have no synaptic open
[09:24] <darlek> ah that's true too isn't it
[09:24] <Flynsarmy> VLC is showing videos in their own window instead of part of the main VLC window. how do i fix that?
[09:25] <mobi-sheep> mespejel: Are you using ext3 or ext4?  Using ext4 would help.  Don't use it on production servers though.  :)
[09:25] <darlek> cannot LOCK means permissions, so try sudo'ing
[09:25] <jvainio> yeah sudo ye ye
[09:25] <jvainio> but still
[09:25] <jvainio> kenyon: no configure file anywhere
[09:25] <kenyon> jvainio: that's the error I thought you were going to pastebin
[09:25] <cm21> Hello!... I have runing ubuntu 9.04, but I don't know how to change the brightness of the screen (desktop PC)
[09:26] <darlek> cm21, how about the knob on the monitor?
[09:26] <jvainio> ok kenyon here you go
[09:26] <cm21> it is at limit
[09:26] <darlek> is it too dark?
[09:26] <jvainio> stuff that happens after sudo aptget install build essentials
[09:26] <jvainio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/183489/
[09:27] <jony123> anyone else here when uploading files threw firefox have firefox freese until the upload is comp;eted
[09:27] <kenyon> jvainio: looks like you have another package manager running, but I can't read that language
[09:27] <jvainio> its finnish... Linus Torvalds language
[09:27] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: It's an embedded window bug.  There are fix for that.
[09:27] <jvainio> ;)
[09:27] <darlek> cool
[09:28] <neurochrome> jvainio: yeah have you got synaptic open too?
[09:28] <jvainio> no i dont
[09:28] <cm21> yes
[09:28] <jvainio> all i have is console and file manager
[09:28] <cm21> too dark
[09:28] <jvainio> and firefox
[09:28] <neurochrome> jvainio: why?  are you installing from scratch?
[09:29] <jvainio> yeah i have a source code pak
[09:29] <jvainio> coz aptget doesnt know my program
[09:29] <neurochrome> yeah but apt should still be able to install build-essential
[09:29] <darlek> jvoinio:  does ps aux | grep -i manager point to any runaway process maybe?
[09:29] <neurochrome> and it's 'apt-get'
[09:30] <pccc> Hello, on boot I'm getting the error "Alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist!" How do I go about making my sata driver load as a resident instead of as a module?
[09:31] <jvainio> i have no idea mates
[09:31] <darlek> cm21: I can't remember the program but I'm on a laptop, so sometimes there is a laptop program used to powerdown my screen a bit.  I remember I turned it off once and that brightened up the screen
[09:31] <jvainio> i will reboot
[09:31] <jvainio> and come back hhere
[09:31] <jvainio> cannot figure out what that process table says
[09:31] <cm21> but I am on desktop
[09:32] <neurochrome> darlek: have you added the brightness applet to the panel and tried using that?
[09:32] <neurochrome> darlek: is it a laptop?
[09:32] <mobi-sheep> darlek: Power management?
[09:32] <jvainio> hmmm apparently neurochrome you were right there was a dialog window somewhere
[09:32] <jvainio> now it works, the buildessentials thing
[09:33] <neurochrome> jvainio: good
[09:33] <rockman> Good afternoon.
[09:33] <neurochrome> 'noon
[09:33] <mobi-sheep> cm21: Is there a 'Brightness Applet' in the list of applets that you can add to Gnome-Panel?
[09:33] <mobi-sheep> cm21: Try right-click on a panel and "Add to.."  Look for Brightness Applet.
[09:33] <ce_manis> hhhyyyy
[09:33] <cm21> yes, but don't work
[09:33] <darlek> cm21:  try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4170431 for some ideas.  This is a laptop post, but desktop might have similar issues.  I don't know more about it though
[09:33] <neurochrome> cm21: do u use a prop driver for your gfx?
[09:34] <neurochrome> cm21:  the brightness aplet is for laptops only
[09:34] <Flynsarmy> Is there a deb available anywhere for the 1.0 RC2 of VLC?
[09:34] <neurochrome> sounds like a gamma/brightness/contrast issue maybe
[09:34] <neurochrome> Flynsarmy: have you checked the vlc site
[09:34] <cm21> so, nothing for desktop
[09:34] <darlek> cm21: is there a time when the screen is okay or is it always dark?
[09:34] <neurochrome> Flynsarmy: getdeb?
[09:34] <Flynsarmy> neurochrome, ya, not on the download page
[09:35] <cm21> always dark
[09:35] <jvainio> ok thanks everybody, especially darlek, neurochrome and mobi-sheep
[09:35] <neurochrome> cm21: yeah. normally the gfx cards control app
[09:35] <Flynsarmy> neurochrome, searching for 'vlc' on getdeb returns nothing
[09:35] <neurochrome> jvainio: np
[09:35] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources
[09:35] <darlek> cm21: try switching off acpi at boot
[09:36] <neurochrome> Flynsarmy: probably not then... have you checked the version provided by ubuntu-tweak
[09:36] <cm21> because the monitor (CRT) is old
[09:36] <Flynsarmy> neurochrome, newbie here. don't know what that is
[09:36] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: I have the solution -- Do you want it?
[09:37] <neurochrome> it's an app that enables 3rd party sources for you to install from.. vlc is on the list.. these will normally be newer versions than those provided by canonical
[09:37] <neurochrome> Flynsarmy: see mobi-sheep he looks like he has the answer
[09:37] <slim> good morning
[09:37] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, yes please
[09:37] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list --> Type in a password --> You'll see a Text Edit popping up.
[09:37] <neurochrome> mobi-sheep: he's a noob give him the gksudo gedit version! ;)
[09:37] <cm21> thanks for your help neurochrome
[09:38] <neurochrome> mobi-sheep: GKSUDO! lol
[09:38] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Use gksudo instead of sudo.  Sorry!
[09:38] <neurochrome> cm21: np
[09:38] <cm21> I will live on the darkness
[09:38] <mobi-sheep> Heh.
[09:38]  * neurochrome is a stickler for the rules! he he!
[09:39] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: You there?  Run "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" in the terminal.
[09:39] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, yea i have
[09:39] <raz> my ubuntu laptop makes an annoying, high pitched sound when it wakes up from suspend. anyone know how to disable that?
[09:39] <raz> i googled for "resume sound" and such, but found nohting
[09:39] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Add three lines.  1)  # VLC     2)  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kow/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main    3)  deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kow/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:40] <darlek> raz: you might have a key stuck, type the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog and all the other keys
[09:40] <raz> darlek, no. the sound is not permanent, it seems to be a notification sample played on purpose
[09:40] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: # VLC
[09:40] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kow/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:40] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kow/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:40] <darlek> raz: I had this exact same problem; I cleaned my keyboard and got rid os fome gunk
[09:40] <heihaier> How to drive TP-LINK TL-WN422G+ in Ubuntu 8.04.2 server?
[09:40] <darlek> of a lot of gunk
[09:40] <raz> darlek, ehm. there is no stuck key
[09:41] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, done
[09:41] <Elive_user33_en> Hi All.. I have a Active Directory ( Win 2003 ) and a NIS server (Ubuntu ) is there a way where I can synchronize Windows AD password with NIS.. so that user needs to have only one password..Rather than two different passwords?
[09:41] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: With me so far?  What you're doing is that you accept the risk and the patches that were made by a username 'kow' -- You understand me?  This is adding a new source repos to your list.
[09:42] <n0yd> Could someone give me a hand? Apache doesn't start on boot anymore, but starts fine with apache2ctl but NOT /etc/init.d/apache2 start. But I just discovered I have /etc/init.d/apache2 AND /etc/init.d/apache2.1. If I use the apache2.1 init script manually, it starts fine, no errors. Any ideas whats going on?
[09:42] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: By doing this, you're getting a patched version of new VLC 1.0 ALPHA.  I have this too.
[09:42] <darlek> raz: it's hard to judge a stuck key on the laptops.  Even a non stuck key can have gunk pressed into it making the connection, even if the key isn't really that bad.  I took my keyboard off, went over it and found two keys.  Cleaned, and it worked.  The noise you hear is buffer overrun.
[09:42] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, yea i've played with apt sources before. Is there not a 1.0 rc2 one?
[09:42] <darlek> raz: YMMV of course of course
[09:42] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Assuming you did it right -- You added three lines --> Comment + Two Source Lines.   Now "sudo aptitude update"
[09:42] <krisss117> hi, where i can find airoscript to ubuntu, becouse i download and it dosn.t work :/
[09:43] <raz> darlek, dude. there is no stuck key ;)
[09:43] <Elive_user33_en> n0u, Looks like.. apache2.1 is already using the ports ( 80/443 ..etc ).. second one fails because of that.. Whats the error message you are getting
[09:43] <ozon_> i ll come here later
[09:43] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, The following signatures could not be verified because the public key is not available
[09:43] <darlek> alrightie ;)
[09:43] <n0yd> Elive_user33_en, no error. and the 2.1 one isnt starting a boot anyway
[09:43] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Alrigh.  Good.  I don't know if I have 1.0 RC2 as I don't care for latest version.  Just that it worked.
[09:43] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0xdd4676fd8f10a7a7b9d8b1f60e494dbb2f021ac1
[09:43] <|Newton|> !msn
[09:43] <|Newton|> !messenger
[09:44] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Then "sudo aptitude update"  --> again.  To ensure that you're not getting error.
[09:44] <|Newton|> Can anyone recommend a good app for MSN, NOT pidgin :D!?
[09:44] <darlek> ubottu: how do you do that?  are you piping apropos or something to irc?
[09:44] <kenyon> |Newton|: bitlbee
[09:44] <Blinkiz> Hi. I would like that Evolution is started at a specified window size (1024x768). Is it possible?
[09:44] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, worked
[09:44] <mobi-sheep> !info amsn | |Newton|
[09:44] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Okay.  "sudo aptitude full-upgrade"
[09:44] <|Newton|> im using aMSN but i dont like it..
[09:44] <ozzmosis> Elive_user33_en: Windows AD password sync might be something for #samba
[09:45] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: You might have to do it few times as it's installing packages / removing packages.
[09:45] <Elive_user33_en> ozatomic, Will try there thanks
[09:45] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, what's the diff between that and sudo apt-get install?
[09:45] <kenyon> aptitude is better
[09:45] <Snomi> hey
[09:45] <mobi-sheep> !aptitude | Flynsarmy
[09:45] <Elive_user33_en> n0yd, update-rc.d apache2 remove and update-rc.d apache-2.1 defaults
[09:46] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[09:46] <darlek> ubottu: copy paste king, or or...
[09:46] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: It's a cleaner version.  It remove the packages AND THEIR DEPENDENCIES.  Read the link I gave you.
[09:46] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, thanks
[09:46] <ozzmosis> !bot > darlek
[09:46] <Snomi> i downloaded compiz configuration thing, and i set the effect to blur....now i can only see black windows xD anyone got any suggestions?
[09:47] <darlek> aptitude gives you options if the install doesn't run and will offer you a chance to repair rather than quit
[09:47] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Do "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade" again.  Just to make sure there are no problem.
[09:47] <JesusCake[BoT]> is anyone here?
[09:47] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Err, copy the command.
[09:48] <JesusCake[BoT]> i need halp haha
[09:48] <mobi-sheep> !ask | JesusCake[BoT]
[09:48] <Snomi> i downloaded compiz configuration thing, and i set the effect to blur....now i can only see black windows xD anyone got any suggestions?
[09:48] <n0yd> linux_manju, thx didnt think of that :P
[09:48] <linux_manju> n0yd, NP :)
[09:48] <JesusCake[BoT]> oh okay. :D
[09:48] <JesusCake[BoT]> So i just installed ubuntu over windows, and it is just as slow as it was before.
[09:49] <raghu125coorg> raz it looks like capacitor whine problem
[09:49] <dassouki> where can i find a good source of business related (non programming and non web design) website that has reviews of FOSS software
[09:49] <JesusCake[BoT]> why
[09:49] <linux_manju> dassouki, freshmeat.net ??
[09:49] <raghu125coorg> raz, gksudo gedit /etc/init.d/acpid
[09:49] <JesusCake[BoT]> like i wanted to do a clean install, and it acts like it did an overwrite, instead of a clean install.
[09:49] <raghu125coorg> raz, echo 2 > /sys/module/processor/parameters/max_cstate
[09:50] <raghu125coorg> raz, Save the file and reboot Ubuntu
[09:50] <kenyon> JesusCake[BoT]: There is no difference.
[09:50] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Everything going okay?  VLC work? :)
[09:50] <dassouki> linux_manju: thank u :D
[09:50] <Snomi> jesus, what do you want doing?
[09:50] <JesusCake[BoT]> well it is just as slow... and i dont know why
[09:50] <JesusCake[BoT]> i want to know why it is still as slow
[09:50] <Snomi> what are your PC specs?
[09:50] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, yea i got a crash report the first time i did it but the second time it worked fine
[09:50] <JesusCake[BoT]> even with a clean install, i havent checked the hard drive
[09:50] <Flynsarmy> mobi-sheep, i'm now on rc1. thanks for your help :)
[09:50] <JesusCake[BoT]> its like a 2004 dell
[09:50] <JesusCake[BoT]> the comp is upstairs and i dont know how to get irc on my phone haha.
[09:50] <mobi-sheep> Flynsarmy: Welcome.  Have fun. :)
[09:51] <mmm4m5m> question please: every time after upgrade linux headers, I have to rebuild nvidia modules. It is easy, I got it from nvidia web site with good description. But wondering how to automate it? dmesg tell that virtualbox module is automatically rebuild.  I wanted to just reformat the hard drive and put linux on it, but i didnt see a spot to do a reformat.
[09:52] <JesusCake[BoT]> so i think that windows is still lingering on there, which is the reason for it being slow still
[09:52] <whazilla> how would i use ubuntu to go from stage1 to another ?
[09:52] <kenyon> JesusCake[BoT]: Can you boot to windows anymore? If not, then it is gone.
[09:52] <whazilla> chroot ?
[09:52] <JesusCake[BoT]> no it just goes right into linux.
[09:52] <methvan> can anyone help me sort out a network manager problem in 9.04
[09:52] <ziroday> JesusCake[BoT]: Windows won't affect Ubuntu performance. Please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[09:53] <raghu125coorg> methvan, what is the problem?
[09:53] <openros> I wanto copy the OS from one machine to another.
[09:53] <openros> how to do it
[09:53] <methvan> I don't seem to have network manager
[09:53] <darlek_> methvan: what's up?
[09:53] <JesusCake[BoT]> brb
[09:53] <openros> that is i want to create an ISO of the installed Linux
[09:53] <darlek_> you mean the applet?
[09:53] <JesusCake[BoT]> i have to go upstairs
[09:53] <methvan> I am trying to get my wireless working again
[09:53] <Snomi> i downloaded compiz configuration thing, and i set the effect to blur....now i can only see black windows xD anyone got any suggestions? should i go to the failsafe terminal and uninstall the configuarion tool?
[09:54] <darlek_> sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[09:54] <ziroday> openros: you will have to use cloning software such as partimage or clonezilla
[09:54] <kenyon> openros: That isn't a simple task. Might be better to simply do a normal install.
[09:54] <raghu125coorg> methvan, check this out http://wicd.sourceforge.ne
[09:54] <openros> i hat an enterprice linux...
[09:54] <openros> missed the dvd
[09:55] <openros> and want to copy from the exsisting server to the new server
[09:55] <kenyon> openros: not ubuntu?
[09:55] <Snomi> anyone know the command for an uninstall?
[09:55] <ozzmosis> openros: it would probably be easier to install ubuntu on the 2nd machine then rsync to it from the first
[09:55] <openros> not ubuntu
[09:55] <ozzmosis> Snomi: apt-get autoremove
[09:55] <ziroday> Snomi: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[09:55] <kenyon> !ot | openros
[09:55] <openros> i came here get a quick support
[09:55] <Snomi> which one...
[09:55] <Snomi> autoremove?
[09:56] <openros> which chanel shall i ask
[09:56] <ozzmosis> Snomi: it depends what you want to do
[09:56] <kenyon> Snomi: aptitude remove
[09:56] <openros> i need to copy redhat el 5
[09:56] <ziroday> Snomi: autoremove will remove all "orphaned" packages whilst remove will uninstall the packages you request
[09:56] <Snomi> ok..
[09:56] <Snomi> my compiz config manager thing i broken..
[09:56] <mobi-sheep> Anybody know what's up with VirtualBox repo?
[09:56] <Snomi> and i cant use ubuntu
[09:57] <Snomi> but i can get into the terminal
[09:57] <ziroday> Snomi: how is it broken? Please be specific
[09:57] <methvan> I have the two computer symbols on the task bar thing, when I left click on it, it is telling me my wireless connections are unmanaged... any ideas??
[09:57] <lanoxx-> can i mount my existing /home partition on a newly installed ubuntu with the same user name existing on both installations or will that give complications
[09:57] <Snomi> ziroday: ive written it before: i downloaded compiz configuration thing, and i set the effect to blur....now i can only see black windows xD anyone got any suggestions? should i go to the failsafe terminal and uninstall the configuarion tool?
[09:57] <mmm4m5m> ziroday: I think, "auto remove" is not the same as "orphaned".. at least for synaptic, looks it is different
[09:57] <an7> Anyone know what cpufreq method is actually being used on Jaunty? It seems to keep my cpu stuck on lowest frequency, even when I select the performance governor in the gnome applet
[09:57] <darlek_> openros: CloneZilla or G4L (Ghost 4 Linux) should be okay
[09:57] <ozzmosis> lanoxx-: the only complication is if the user numbers are different
[09:58] <ozzmosis> lanoxx-: the numerical user ID, that is
[09:58] <ziroday> Snomi: removing the configuration tool won't do anything
[09:58] <Snomi> darn
[09:58] <lanoxx-> ozzmosis, ok, so concerning configuration files thats no problem? thus i only have to check with the id command if the user ids are identical
[09:58] <rdz> hi all. when waking up from suspend, my macbook4,1 with jaunty makes some optical drive noise, but stays black. i also cannot connect per ssh then. it seems, that waking up was stopped at some point. how can i help debug this?
[09:58] <ziroday> Snomi: try do sudo mv ~/.compiz ~/.compiz.old
[09:58] <Snomi> in the failsafe terminal ?
[09:59] <ozzmosis> Snomi: you can probably just rm $HOME/.compiz .. or do what ziroday said
[09:59] <tdn> After upgrading to Kubuntu 9.04, ny disk keeps spinning down, when I am not using it. Even when I'm on AC Power. This is very annoying and probably damaging my disk. How do I make it stop?
[09:59] <ozzmosis> lanoxx-: correct
[09:59] <kenyon> an7: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[09:59] <ozzmosis> tdn: I think the hdparm command can control that
[10:00] <ziroday> Snomi: no, press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a VT. Press ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[10:00] <an7> kenyon, that shows the governor as set, but the scaling doesnt change (acual mhz/ghz)
[10:00] <JesusCake[BoT]> sudo fdisk -sudo fdisk -l
[10:00] <lanoxx-> ozzmosis, thats cool, i just installed a fresh installation of jaunty on a different partition since there is just to much stuff broken, now im trying to figure out how to best do the migration, would you suggest copying over files from /etc/?
[10:00] <Snomi> wont that show up at black too
[10:00] <ozzmosis> lanoxx-: I guess that depends what's broken :)
[10:00] <Snomi> ziroday:
[10:00] <kenyon> an7: it's hard to see because it changes so fast
[10:00] <JesusCake[BoT]> woops haha
[10:00] <Snomi> ziroday: wont that show up as black too
[10:00] <kenyon> an7: did it say ondemand?
[10:00] <ziroday> Snomi: no, its a virtual terminal
[10:00] <tdn> ozzmosis, I have tried. No effect.
[10:00] <an7> kenyon - my cpu is sitting at 76%
[10:00] <ziroday> !pastebin | JesusCake[BoT]
[10:00] <tdn> ozzmosis, hdparm -S0 does not work.
[10:00] <Snomi> woot ok
[10:01] <JesusCake[BoT]> hmm?
[10:01] <an7> kenyon, it says performance, but the scaling__cur_freq sits at 800mhz (which sucks for a 2ghz laptop plugged into mains)
[10:01] <ziroday> JesusCake[BoT]: you have no windows partitions installed
[10:01] <JesusCake[BoT]> okay.
[10:01] <ozzmosis> tdn: how does it "not work"?
[10:01] <JesusCake[BoT]> why is it still acting sluggish then?
[10:01] <JesusCake[BoT]> a clean install will fix the problems it had, but this is not
[10:02] <lanoxx-> ozzmosis, basically scim and the printer dialog (system-config-printer) and a few other things, random crashes, and most annoyingly i have a lot of remaining kde packets lying around since i originally installed kubuntu and then later on installed ubunut-desktop
[10:03] <lanoxx-> also at boot time i still get the kubuntu splash but only have of the time and then it falls back to tty
[10:03] <JesusCake[BoT]> so i still have not found a solution.
[10:03] <scandinavian> Enter text here...hello
[10:03] <Snomi> ziroday: there is no .compiz directory
[10:03] <kenyon> an7: I use ondemand on my core2 quad desktop. I have cpufrequtils installed, which provides a cpufreq-set program.
[10:03] <ziroday> Snomi: you are looking in /home/yourusername correct?
[10:04] <Snomi> what should i type ziroday
[10:04] <an7> kenyon, I tried installing that, but then gnome failed to login - some sort of clash with the builtin power tools? It didnt seem to let me change anything either though
[10:04] <JesusCake[BoT]> ....
[10:04] <ziroday> Snomi: do cd ~
[10:04] <ziroday> Snomi: and then ls -la | grep compiz
[10:04] <Snomi> cd ~/.compiz ?
[10:04] <lanoxx-> ozzmosis, or would you say these problems are fixable?
[10:04] <ozzmosis> lanoxx-: usually you'd just copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.. possibly /etc/hosts .. maybe APT's sources.lst.. most of the stuff people care about is under $HOME or somewhere else though.. occasionally in /var
[10:05] <ziroday> Snomi: does ls -la | grep compiz return anything when you are in your homedir?
[10:05] <an7> kenyon, http://pastebin.com/m11f137f8
[10:05] <ozzmosis> lanoxx-: everything is fixable if you have the time
[10:05] <lanoxx-> ozzmosis, i would have the time i guess but not the knowledge and google was not help to sofar
[10:05] <JesusCake[BoT]> ...
[10:05] <Snomi> ziroday: so i type Is -la | grep compiz
[10:06] <kenyon> an7: hmm I don't know, maybe you can just disable scaling?
[10:06] <Snomi> is that and L ?
[10:06] <an7> kenyon, how?
[10:06] <ziroday> Snomi: it is an l
[10:06] <ziroday> Snomi: l L (el)
[10:06] <Snomi> ziroday: capital i?
[10:06] <ozzmosis> Snomi: ls .. short for list
[10:06] <Snomi> k
[10:06] <an7> kenyon, google seems to think removing powernowd
[10:06] <Snomi> then in the middle, is that a line
[10:06] <an7> kenyon, but its not installed on my box
[10:07] <JesusCake[BoT]> is there anyway to fix the sluggishness i am experiencing right now?
[10:07] <gorbierd> hey
[10:07] <Snomi> JesusCake[BoT]: which version of ubuntu are you on
[10:07] <gorbierd> how do i search text within text files on my disk?
[10:07] <ozzmosis> !grep | gorbierd
[10:07] <ozzmosis> erm
[10:07] <ozzmosis> wasn't expecting that
[10:07] <JesusCake[BoT]> 9.04
[10:07] <linux_manju> gorbierd, grep -i pattern filename or *
[10:08] <ozzmosis> gorbierd: use grep
[10:08] <ozzmosis> ignore ubottu ;)
[10:08] <gorbierd> thnx!:)
[10:08] <gorbierd> it search in sub dirrectories?
[10:08] <ozzmosis> gorbierd: grep -r
[10:08] <linux_manju> gorbierd, grep -r would do
[10:09] <gorbierd> thnks a lot to all
[10:09] <kenyon> an7: you could try unloading the module listed by cpufreq-info -d
[10:09] <linux_manju> gorbierd, for eg.. If i wanted to search myname I would do somehting like this grep -r -i myname *
[10:09] <an7> kenyon, I dont see any kernel modules - it must be builtin on jaunty
[10:09] <an7> i dont have cpufreq-utils installed
[10:10] <ozzmosis> JesusCake[BoT]: only sluggishness I've seen was on a 10 year old PC with a crappy video card, and the mouse cursor would jump all over the shop.  HDD performance seemed OK though, so I put it down to the Xorg driver.  you'll have to narrow down what the cause is.  find out what's slow and what isn't.
[10:12] <kenyon> an7: apparently gnome-power-manager might be handling it
[10:12] <Snomi> http://wiki.opencompositing.org/Troubleshooting#Black_Window_Bug anyone got any fixes?
[10:13] <an7> kenyon, maybe i should be filing a but against gnome-power-manager then
[10:13] <darlek_> !update-alternatives
[10:13] <new> hi, some one knows a pdf editor software for linux (ubuntu) i tried pdfedit, it's awkward, i need highlighting and adding notes
[10:13] <Snomi> ziroday: http://wiki.opencompositing.org/Troubleshooting#Black_Window_Bug does that state any fixes?
[10:15] <Snomi> ozzmosis: http://wiki.opencompositing.org/Troubleshooting#Black_Window_Bug any ideas?
[10:16] <chris__> Hi Is there an app I can install with a gui for changing the boot order on a dual boot system
[10:17] <darlek_> lanoxx: try sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so  ... it should prompt you for ubuntu over kubuntu splash startup
[10:17] <Myrtti> chris__: editing the menu.lst by hand is too difficult?
[10:18] <darlek_> chris: update-grub autoupdates the menu.1st file
[10:18] <Snomi> http://wiki.opencompositing.org/Troubleshooting#Black_Window_Bug anyone got any ideas?
[10:19] <darlek_> !apropos
[10:19] <darlek_> ah
[10:20] <chris__> Myrtti, yea - kinda new at this - would rather use a gui app if possible - still booting to windows hopefully only a short time longer?
[10:21] <denny> http://denny.dreamwidth.org/714747.html  # Problems getting X running triple-head again since installing 9.04 - help?
[10:22] <chris__> darlek_, where is the "menu.1st" located?
[10:22] <darlek_> chris_: The menu.1st is just a text file, so you can take the one made by grub, and reorder it as you like
[10:22] <denny> chris__: usually in /boot or thereabouts
[10:23] <denny>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:23] <chris__> denny, Thanks
[10:23] <denny> it's an L, not a 1, by the way
[10:23] <darlek_> sjhould be near grub
[10:23] <darlek_> checking...
[10:25] <Snomi> my compiz blur has made the whole screen and window black
[10:25] <Snomi> anyone got any ideas for a uninstall or something?
[10:25] <darlek_> chris::  /boot/grub
[10:26] <chris__> darlek_,  Thanks
[10:26] <darlek_> so run update-grub, then edit menu.lst by hand if necessary
[10:26] <darlek_> np
[10:26] <denny> Snomi: boot of your CD, choose 'safe graphics mode'
[10:26] <denny> change the display settings  :)
[10:27]  * beli recommends SUPERGRUB on boot problems
[10:27] <chris__> darlek_, What is best app to use to get to this /bbot/grub ?
[10:27] <chris__> *boot/grub
[10:27] <darlek_> chris: oh, I just use terminal, y'know the command line
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:28] <krisss117> hello, can you give me link where i can download airoscript ? My system is Ubuntu
[10:28] <chris__> darlek_, Umm afraid you were going to say that - not quite up to speed with terminal yet.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> krisss117: http://airoscript.googlepages.com/airoscript-1.7RC7.sh
[10:28] <darlek_> haha
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> krisss117: that good enough?
[10:29] <krisss117> i try this
[10:30] <gordonjcp> chris__: it's not that bad ;-)
[10:30] <krisss117> 39: Syntax error: "}" unexpected
[10:30] <krisss117> it's not work
[10:30] <gordonjcp> chris__: why do you think Mac OSX makes such heavy use of command lines now?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> krisss117: thats the code for the latest stable release, so its not my problem. contact the developers
[10:30] <darlek_> because of all the rails developers ;)
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> krisss117: its not something i use
[10:31] <gordonjcp> darlek_: spotlight...
[10:31] <hskill> when "system calls" say they access the operating system, does that just mean the kernel?
[10:31] <krisss117> ok
[10:31] <krisss117> :/
[10:31] <gordonjcp> hskill: yes, or possibly some of the common libraries
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> krisss117: let the devs know, give tem the error you get and they may fix it
[10:32] <Hyperi> Hi, I'm wondering why I can't connect WLAN with my Ubuntu box. 'iwlist ath0 scan' and all works. But for some reasons I can't get DHCP value out of it. Any logs I could see that could possibly produce error?
[10:32] <hskill> gordonjcp why would a system call use a library, wouldnt you just use the library call?
[10:32] <gordonjcp> hskill: it's a fuzzy area
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: if you set a static ip does it work ok?
[10:32] <Hyperi> ActionParsnip: Should be DHCP :/ Want me to try? :/
[10:33] <gordonjcp> hskill: in very very old Unixes it was a lot more clear-cut, when you had a whacking great monolithic kernel and user libs and applications on top
[10:33] <darlek_> Hyperi:  iwlist doesn't provide DHCP, only the list of networks your wifi sees
[10:33] <Hyperi> (And yes, the box is configured nicely and works on 3 other devices. I even fallbacked from using WPA to WEP for making it more simple.
[10:33] <darlek_> !iwlist
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: its worth it, just to test
[10:33] <darlek_> argh
[10:33] <Hyperi> darlek_: Point was that the WLAN is working.
[10:33] <gordonjcp> hskill: now you've got some libraries that are very close-coupled to the kernel, and others that are quite deeply abstracted
[10:33] <hskill> gordonjcp ok thanks
[10:34] <gordonjcp> hskill: clear as mud, right?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: you need to work out exactly what is and isnt working
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: we know scanning works and we can find APs
[10:34] <darlek_> oh I see...
[10:34] <gordonjcp> hskill: think of "system calls" as going off to a big black box with a huge multi-pin connector and the lid rivetted shut, that you really don't want to open up ;-)
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: you may also want to try disabling WEP / WPAx to see if that connects. Not all devces can use WPA under Linux
[10:35] <MindVirus> Hi. How do I use my guest session? I have gdm-guest-session installed.
[10:35] <Hyperi> But all systems should be capable of WEP
[10:35] <Hyperi> Right?
[10:35] <MindVirus> I tried logging in as "guest" without a password but that didn't work.
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: sure, its why i use wep
[10:36] <Hyperi> My overall dislike is that WEP only protects from normal users.
[10:36] <gordonjcp> Hyperi: so does WPA
[10:36] <rabidweezle> !w32codecs
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: then implement extra security ;)
[10:36] <MindVirus> WPA protects against hackers, gordonjcp.
[10:36] <MindVirus> WEP is insecure.
[10:36] <Hyperi> If advanced users wanted to snoop / use, WEP is like taking candy from a child
[10:36] <gordonjcp> MindVirus: "crackers", please
[10:36] <MindVirus> gordonjcp, as you wish.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> wep is fine provided yuo use extra steps to add security
[10:36] <gordonjcp> MindVirus: and no, it does not protect against them
[10:36] <hskill> how possible is it that there are major security flaws in operating systems that were never published and just a single hacker or group of hackers knows about and is able to do serious damage with without anyone knowing?
[10:36] <Hyperi> gordonjcp: To be even more specific, protects from hackers AND crackers.
[10:36] <Hyperi> !
[10:36] <MindVirus> gordonjcp, it protects against undetermined crackers.
[10:36] <gordonjcp> unless you're doing the full bhuna with an auth server and certificates
[10:36] <Hyperi> The difference is how they "use their powers"
[10:37] <Hyperi> Not on what they do
[10:37] <beli> hskill: high
[10:37] <MindVirus> Hi. How do I use my guest session? I have gdm-guest-session installed.
[10:37] <MindVirus> I tried logging in as "guest" without a password but that didn't work.
[10:37] <gordonjcp> MindVirus: WEP can be broken in a couple of minutes, WPA-PSK can be broken in a couple of hours
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> MindVirus: why not just create a new user named 'guest'?
[10:37] <darlek_> !gdm-guest-session
[10:37] <beli> hskill: not tested software has major security flaws....
[10:37] <Artilheiro> hello
[10:37] <MindVirus> ActionParsnip, because it's supposed to already have been built-in.
[10:37] <gordonjcp> MindVirus: I use WEP, because if I used WPA my Nintendo DS among other things wouldn't work
[10:37] <gordonjcp> if it's *important* then I don't use wireless
[10:38] <MindVirus> And I would like to have the account cleaned every time it is used, ActionParsnip.
[10:38] <beli> hskill: you just need to find them.....its more security by obscurity what you are talking about....
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: sure but if you use restricted subnet masks, mac filtering, hidden ssid and no dhcp with a bizarre ip range it makes it a whole lot trickier
[10:38] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: hidden SSID isn't a great idea, because it breaks a lot of more simpleminded clients
[10:38] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: and in fact, it breaks certain simpleminded APs that happen to fire up on the same channel
[10:39] <hskill> it's wpa and preferably wpa2 or bust
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: works fine here
[10:39] <darlek_> just flip the images to any connection not your MAC address.  hilarious
[10:39] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: you probably haven't got any particularly old wifi kit in production ;-)
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: not sure, nor do i care
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: it works and its pretty locked down, plus i am free to buy wep only wifi cards for linux if needs be
[10:40] <Artilheiro> Can someone here give me a help wifi in my laptop?
[10:40] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: I look after one network that's got some >10 year old wifi kit in it ;-)
[10:40] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: can't be upgraded to new stuff for various bureaucratic reasons
[10:41] <darlek_> Art: state the question not the request
[10:41] <Artilheiro> i've installed ubuntu for good on my laptop, but now, i cant get the wireless connection to work.... can anyone here help me troubleshoot the problem?
[10:42] <irmandos> can anyone help me with my display problem, as it is difficult to explain i uploaded screenshots
[10:42] <rabidweezle> Artilheiro, make model of laptop please
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: also try using a more restrictive subnet than /24
[10:42] <irmandos> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1061195/Help/screenshot01.png
[10:42] <beli> Artilheiro: at first...make sure your wireless hardware was found
[10:42] <irmandos> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1061195/Help/screenshot02.png
[10:42] <darlek_> lspci -network I think
[10:42] <irmandos> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1061195/Help/screenshot03.png
[10:42] <irmandos> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1061195/Help/screenshot04.png
[10:42] <FloodBot2> irmandos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:42] <Artilheiro> HP Compaq 6710b
[10:42] <Artilheiro> let me run that command darlek
[10:42] <ozzmosis> irmandos: that's one crazy font
[10:43] <ozzmosis> irmandos: looks like an Xorg driver bug
[10:43] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: sometimes you need a large subnet
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: coupled with weird ip ranges, like <IP_ADDRESS>/30 gives 2 addresses that are allowed
[10:43] <ozzmosis> irmandos: could be a hardware fault though.  some video cards do weird things when their memory goes bad.
[10:43] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: yeah
[10:43] <irmandos> i have tried nvidia driver ver 173, 177 and now 180 and it does not get better only worse
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: its not too far away from what i use ;)
[10:43] <Artilheiro> darlek that command is not right...
[10:43] <ozzmosis> irmandos: what card is it?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: then turn off dhcp and its extra secure :D
[10:43] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: not so helpful if you've got 300 wifi devices scattered around six APs ;-)
[10:43] <irmandos> i have nvidia 6200
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: then you need 2 subnets
[10:44] <gordonjcp> no, you need one /23 subnet
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> irmandos: the 180 works gret here in intrepid and jaunty
[10:44] <Artilheiro> brb
[10:44] <darlek_> sorry, try lshw
[10:45] <irmandos> i have ubuntu 8.10 nvidia driver 180.11
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: i'd have a few for 300 clients, like 3 or 4 APs with a seperate subnet, break stuff up a bit
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: but thats me
[10:45] <ozzmosis> irmandos: I'm using 180.51 under 9.04, geforge 6600.  works fine for me.
[10:45] <irmandos> and well those screenshots where made this morning can anyone plz help
[10:45] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: depends on what you're trying to do
[10:45] <Ajit> by mistake I had deleted /etc/apt/sources.list from Ubuntu 7.04 ; when I was trying to rename a file as sources.list then it is giving error (I was login as root user)
[10:46] <irmandos> it has gone to such extent that if i move my mouse the 'stripes' does not go away anymore they just jump to n new location
[10:46] <ozzmosis> irmandos: so it's been getting worse?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: true
[10:46] <rabidweezle> Artilheiro, according to google... your laptop has a... Intel 3945 802.11g Wireless
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Ajit: you shouldnt be loggin on as root, it degrades security
[10:47]  * rabidweezle looks that up with ubuntu...
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Ajit: 7.04 is EOL too
[10:47] <plugin> !fr
[10:48] <darlek_> !de
[10:49] <irmandos> jip its kinda okay when the system starts up only one or two stripes and the longer the pc runs the worse it gets to the extent that the whole screen is covered
[10:49] <ozzmosis> irmandos: is the fan working?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> irmandos: it the system ram healthy?
[10:49] <ozzmosis> irmandos: that just sounds like a hardware fault to me
[10:49] <irmandos> jip i have 2 fans and they are both running normally
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> irmandos: are the fans facing the right direction?
[10:50] <irmandos> I do have the ability to enable the normal desktop affects under System => Preferences => Appearance but the 'stripes' just keeps on coming back wether it is set to effects or no effects
[10:50] <ozzmosis> irmandos: what happens when you logout of X, then back in again, after the PC has been on for a while?  do the stripes go away, or come back immediately?
[10:51] <ozzmosis> ... because a logout will restart X, and the video card driver
[10:51] <irmandos> there is nothing wrong with the fans i had windows vista on here and it worked without any problems
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> irmandos: having fans is good but if they are facing a bad direction they can make the air hotter
[10:51] <irmandos> it just comes back whether i log out or use ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:52] <adaw4da> hi all
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> irmandos: are you fully updated?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> !hi | adaw4da
[10:52] <darlek_> irmandos: is the system overclocked via bios?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> is the video card overclocked
[10:52] <irmandos> jip fully updated system, and no the bois does not support overclocking
[10:52] <Hyperi> ActionParsnip: hmm, I defined manually everything. Still nothing.
[10:53] <Hyperi> ActionParsnip: Any place I can see if it actually even connects ?
[10:53] <irmandos> nothing is overclocked I use the pc for media editing
[10:53] <irmandos> so no overclocking has been done
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: ifconfig; route
[10:54] <darlek_> irmandos:  sorry, is this a laptop?  if so, if you can connect to an external monitor it would verify if it was a linux or hardware screen issue
[10:54] <Hyperi> ActionParsnip: Says "Destination:<IP_ADDRESS> Gateway: * Genmask: <IP_ADDRESS> Flags: U Metric: 0 Ref: 0 Use: 0 Iface: ath0"
[10:55] <irmandos> no this is a pc
[10:55] <adaw4da> I have a problem with my network.. A couple of days ago it worked but now it doesn't.. I haven't do nothing of strange.. in the network manager it is all ok, all ip, submask and gateway configured but if I do a ifconfig nothing is setted.. what's wrang with it?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: does the route command show your routers internal ip address
[10:55] <karex> HELP, i'd done 'sudo update-initramfs -u', but the boot usplash hasn't changed (shutdown usplash has changed)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !splash
[10:55] <Boohbah> adaw4da: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !usplash
[10:56] <darlek_> dang, I had to look that up haha
[10:56] <Hyperi> ActionParsnip: hmm, the router should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:56] <adaw4da> uhm ok
[10:56] <adaw4da> now I try it
[10:56] <secret901> I removed some items from the Applications menu and now when I try to open it it's just one pixel long.  How do I restore it?
[10:56] <Hyperi> idk why it says .0.0 there
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: thats the network address
[10:57] <secret901> How do I reset the Applications menu?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: i'd check yuor ip address settings
[10:57] <adaw4da> no chages..
[10:57] <Hyperi> ActionParsnip: I set it as <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:57] <adaw4da> *changes
[10:57] <Hyperi> So it wouldn't collide with others
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Hyperi: and you'll need to set the default gateway
[10:59] <karex> ActionParsnip: i've done that
[10:59] <irmandos> ozzmosis, ActionParsnip, darlek_: Any idees as to what can be wrong with my pc display?
[10:59] <secret901> How do I reset the items to be displayed in the Applications menu in Gnome? I remember there was a file and if you delete it it will reset.
[10:59] <Hyperi> ActionParsnip: hmm 'man ifconfig' says nothing about it :/
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> karex: thats all i know, i removed all splash sceens, speeds stuff up.
[10:59] <adaw4da> any ideas?
[11:00] <v3trae> hey guys, just recently came back to ubuntu after a long hiatus from it, and i seem to have forgotten how to autostart daemons on boot. I'm familiar with rc-update from gentoo but can't seem to figure it out here. Where should i look?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !bum | v3trae
[11:00] <Hyperi> ActionParsnip: Easy quick tips what to type or where to look for it? :P
[11:00] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: thank you
[11:00] <darlek_> irmandos:  Don't know.  Try the LiveCD and see if it fails?
[11:01] <irmandos> thanx darlek_
[11:01] <FuTz> hello.. i' ve got a problem with root login.. well.. i enabled it, and i want to disable it back.. how to do that if someone can help?
[11:01] <karex> ActionParsnip: did u mean *-artwork-usplash?
[11:01] <Hyperi> aaa ip route add default via IP :P
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> karex: if you remove usplash it does a lot for you. I dont care for eye candy and most of the default OS so i strip most of it out
[11:02] <mmu_man> hi
[11:02] <mmu_man> hm all the packge archives for gutsy are gone, WTF ?
[11:02] <secret901> How do I make Ctrl+Alt+backspace work again like before?
[11:02] <david_> Hello all
[11:02] <david_> does any1 know the "Verve" mini-command line plugin for xfce - does one exist for ubuntu (not xubuntu)
[11:03] <david_> ?
[11:03] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: that did it, thank you very much
[11:03] <v3trae> And can i just say, so good to be back in ubuntu. =)
[11:04] <kormanos> I have a problem with my network.. A couple of days ago it worked but now it doesn't.. I haven't do nothing of strange.. in the network manager it is all ok, all ip, submask and gateway configured but if I do a ifconfig nothing is setted.. what's wrang with it?
[11:04] <darlek_> secret901 : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[11:06] <david_> does any1 know the "Verve" mini-command line plugin for xfce - does one exist for ubuntu (not xubuntu?
[11:06] <darlek> what does the verve command do then?
[11:06] <david_> it is sipmlyu a mini-command line plugin
[11:06] <darlek> apropos the action, and you might find a similar command
[11:07] <darlek> so a command line on the menu bar?
[11:07] <david_> so in the bottom bar you actualle see a text-box
[11:07] <david_> yup
[11:07] <darlek> right
[11:07] <darlek> yes that exists in ubuntu-gnome
[11:07] <darlek> it's a part of the menus that you can add
[11:07] <david_> how is it called?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> david_: like tilda?
[11:07] <david_> ehhhhh
[11:08] <david_> don['t know tilde
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> david_: its a drop down terminal that acts like the Quake / half life / doom tilda terminal
[11:08] <v3trae> david_: tilda is really good, i use it on all my non headless boxes
[11:08] <Snomi> JesusCake[BoT],
[11:08] <v3trae> david_: works alot better then yakuza imo
[11:08] <darlek> right click, add to panel...
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> david_: gives you a terminal you can show and hide with a hotkey
[11:08] <darlek> there will be a list
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> david_: yakuake is the kde equiv
[11:09] <v3trae> david_: only problem i ever have is just getting it thr right size, but you can do that after 2-3 minutes playing with pixel length
[11:09] <v3trae> david_: aye yakuake* excuse me. Tilda works fine in kde though
[11:10] <david_> 10x - I'm trying the various alternatives you've proposed
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> david_: if yuo dont like it, you can always uninstall :D
[11:11] <v3trae> david_: i really can't recommend tilda enough. it's fantastic, and much less complicated then the borderless aterm alternative.
[11:12] <Tim183> i haven't had any updates come through on jaunty for about 2 weeks now... is this correct?
[11:13] <v3trae> david_: i can send you a screenshot of tilda in action, might help you figure out if thats what you're looking for
[11:13] <ozzmosis> Tim183: the last update I saw was for ntpdate
[11:13] <ozzmosis> Tim183: depends what you have installed, I suppose
[11:14] <cantoma> guys, is it possible to use dropbox without having to install nautilus?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> cantoma: i think its a dependancy
[11:15] <ozzmosis> what's dropbox?
[11:16] <v3trae> ozzmosis: mac idea, allows for a network share where someone can put files in, but can't get files out or see whats there.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !infodropbox
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !info dropbox
[11:16] <ozzmosis> v3trae: ah, sounds a bit like an anonymous ftp inbox .. upload but no download
[11:17] <v3trae> ozzmosis: aye, he may mean over a smb share though
[11:17] <ozzmosis> right
[11:17] <cemunal> will not i use nvidia 71* series drivers with latest xorg version?
[11:17] <cantoma> ozzmosis: have you try google it?
[11:18] <^arky^> hi Question: How do you override the $ARCH variable for a particular repo in apt sources.list file
[11:18] <Juzman-EeePC> Hey guys, I installed the rc7 kernel to test intel drivers, but touchpad didnt work on eeepc, so I rolled back to default kernel for jaunty, but now webcam wont work
[11:18] <Juzman-EeePC> any ideas?
[11:18] <v3trae> cantoma: anyway, i'm not sure if it's possible. It works in OSX which uses the same mount function as we do, just not sure how to do it.
[11:18] <darlek> liking tilda ;)  hadn't used that before
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> darlek: its groovy
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> darlek: dont forget to put transparency on it (even if it is pseudo)
[11:19] <v3trae> darlek: it's fantastic, it's amoung the first things i install on a fresh box, next to compiz,conky,and irssi
[11:19] <darlek> no kidding.  I run terminals at startup, so I hadn't giving it a thought in a while
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> ewww @ compiz
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> darlek: put it in your !startup too so it loads at boot
[11:20] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: i'm a sucker for pretty-ness.
[11:20] <david_> OKOK
[11:20] <darlek> no lie
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> lxde > compiz
[11:20] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: never heard of it, i'll have to check it out
[11:20] <v3trae> !info lxde
[11:20] <david_> So I installed both - Tilda and Takukae
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde
[11:20] <darlek> !startup
[11:20] <ozzmosis> .. !flood | ubottu  ;)
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> v3trae: http://www.dacostabalboa.com/es/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/lxde.png
[11:21] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: oh, knoppix is using that now.
[11:21] <david_> I actually meant sometinh much simpler
[11:21] <david_> something just presenting an embeded textbox in the menu bar
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> v3trae: theres a project called LUBUNTU which is just getting established
[11:22] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: lxde replaces gnome does it not?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> v3trae: yes
[11:22] <ubuntu__> why does Ubuntu Netbook Remix Live USB has Internet Connection capability. It even connects wired network automatically.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> v3trae: but can run gnome apps
[11:22] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: yeah i use compiz with gnome, for pretty animations =)
[11:22] <csaba> how can I check my gmail account with "mail" in the console?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> v3trae: not my thing. i want my stuff to happen before ive even thought it rather than wait for a lame anim to finish
[11:23] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: works pretty well with kde4 as well, as well as kde4 will let it anyway.
[11:23] <ozzmosis> csaba: you'd need to use fetchmail to pull your gmail messages to a local folder
[11:23] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: well it depends on the boxes use, for personal  use i like animations, for servers, i'm fine with a terminal frankly
[11:24] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: been using gentoo and FreeBSD for servers for so long i don't even see much of apoint to gui's other then workstation use.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> v3trae: i just like all minimal, my servers are all headless and x-less
[11:24] <csaba> ok
[11:24] <v3trae> ActionParsnip: same
[11:25] <mesole999> hi
[11:25] <v3trae> mesole999: greetings
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> !HI | mesole999
[11:25] <mesole999> welcome
[11:26] <Gourlis> One big thanks to Ubuntu Team.
[11:26] <gorbierd> when i connect to ssh server through places->connect to server i cant create folders even i loggined as root, what do i do to create folders or edit files
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> gorbierd: i wouldnt log in as root over ssh
[11:27] <gorbierd> i logginin to non ubuntu sever
[11:27] <CyberBUNKER> Hello, does anyone know how to add modules to the kernel  (long time windows user kinda stuck)
[11:27] <Hyperi>  Doesn't matter :P
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> gorbierd: if you connect via   ssh username@server     can you then
[11:27] <gorbierd> yep
[11:27] <beli> CyberBUNKER: man lsmod, man insmod, man modprobe
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> gorbierd: then i'd look into sshfs
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> !sshfs
[11:28] <gorbierd> thanx
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> gorbierd: ssh-ing as root is hugely unsecure
[11:28] <CyberBUNKER> hey thanks man, man pages
[11:28] <gorbierd> i understand it
[11:28] <v3trae> CyberBUNKER: man pages are the best way to learn,  although yes, rather dull.
[11:31] <CyberBUNKER> Yeah I should have thought about it first anyway... does anyone know if 9.04 supports the VX3000 nativly anyway?  an lsusb shows the device but there is no /dev/video
[11:31] <v3trae> Anyway i'm out for the night, thanks for the info there ActionParsnip. Have a fantastic evening.
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> and you man
[11:31] <kormanos> I have a problem with my network.. A couple of days ago it worked but now it doesn't.. I haven't do nothing of strange.. in the network manager it is all ok, all ip, submask and gateway configured but if I do a ifconfig nothing is setted.. what's wrang with it?
[11:32] <CyberBUNKER> check cable?
[11:32] <CyberBUNKER> DHCP or static?
[11:32] <beli> kormanos: restart the network
[11:33] <beli> kormanos: /etc/rc.d/network restart
[11:33] <beli> kormanos: of cause...use sudo
[11:33] <thebe> how to set default security permissions in a file??? which is created within a folder with full permission for user and usergroup!
[11:34] <CyberBUNKER> So modprobe -t {directory of modules} should do it?
[11:34] <Boohbah> thebe: umask
[11:34] <beli> thebe: umask
[11:34] <irmandos_mobile> hi guys i have removed the nvidia 6200 card from my system how can I reset my display to stop looking for it and just use onboard display?
[11:34] <Boohbah> beli: that might work on slackware, but init scripts in ubuntu are in /etc/init.d :)
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> !bum
[11:35] <beli> Boohbah: uh, right...i started with slackware in ~1995 :)
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> just use that and its all handled for you
[11:36] <irmandos_mobile> can anyone tell me how to get my xorg.conf rebuild?
[11:36] <thebe> could you give me with syntax
[11:37] <irmandos_mobile> help please?
[11:37] <ozzmosis> irmandos_mobile: Xorg -configure as root
[11:38] <ozzmosis> irmandos_mobile: that will create /root/xorg.conf.new
[11:38] <beli> thebe: umask is a shell internal...since you  are using bash by default...read the bash manual
[11:38] <CyberBUNKER> hey beli, I am getting FATAL: -t only supported with -lpvpgn@pvpgn:/usr/src/modules/gspca$
[11:38] <Cat_Killer> 'scuse me, sorry, is this a good place to get utter newbie help?
[11:39] <ozzmosis> Cat_Killer: yes :)
[11:39] <Pixels> how can I copy a file from admin user to another users home?
[11:39] <ozzmosis> Pixels: sudo cp ...
[11:39] <Cat_Killer> I've just installed ubuntu, and this is the first time I've managed to get it working, but I can;t figure out how to get the sound working.
[11:39] <Pixels> ozzmosis: ill try, brb
[11:39] <ozzmosis> Cat_Killer: what sound card do you have?
[11:40] <beli> thebe: umas does negative permissions....so 022 means all files get 755 perms......to make it a permanent setting for your shell you need to source it in your system profile or user profile for your shell....
[11:40] <ozzmosis> Pixels: you'll need to fix the permissions after you copy the file .. with chown
[11:40] <Pixels> ozzmosis: is there an easier way?  cause I need to know exct location etc
[11:40] <Cat_Killer> It's an SB something. I installed it about a year and a half ago, so i can;t quite remember.
[11:40] <Pixels> ozzmosis: any way using Nautilus?
[11:40] <Pixels> drag and drop?
[11:40] <Artilheiro> hello, can someone here help me configure my wireless network in ubuntu? the wireless driver is as follows: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02
[11:40] <Pixels> ozzmosis: if I load Nautlius as sudo, will that work?
[11:41] <CyberBUNKER> Pixels: I have always just used "sudo nautilus" and then drag and dropped
[11:41] <ozzmosis> Pixels: possibly .. sounds a little dangerous though :)
[11:41] <Pixels> CyberBUNKER: awesome thats what I want
[11:41] <Pixels> ozzmosis: dangerous?
[11:41] <ozzmosis> Pixels: Alt+F2 .. gksudo nautilus
[11:41] <beli> Artilheiro: what ubuntu version?
[11:41] <ozzmosis> Pixels: well, not something I'd encourage people do often.  too easy to drag the wrong file etc.
[11:42] <ozzmosis> Pixels: anyway, you'll still need to fix the permissions
[11:42] <ozzmosis> Pixels: you know you can use filename Tab completion on the command-line?
[11:42] <Pixels> CyberBUNKER: man that was easy :)  just draged file from admin desktop to other users desktop :)
[11:42] <Pixels> ozzmosis: file is copied using sudo nautilus... now what I do?
[11:43] <pintook> hi
[11:43] <pintook> pls help me convert encrypted pdf to doc
[11:43] <Pixels> ozzmosis: change owner from root to username?
[11:43] <ozzmosis> Pixels: correct
[11:43] <CyberBUNKER> pixels: no worries man
[11:43] <ozzmosis> Pixels: and the group, if necessary
[11:43] <Pixels> ozzmosis: just right click and do it that way?
[11:43] <coz_> pinion,  does the pdf have a password and you already know it?
[11:43] <irmandos_mobile> ozzmosis: I get a resolution of 1280x960 instead of 1280x1024 how can I get that fixed?
[11:43] <coz_> pinion, sorry
[11:44] <coz_> pintook,  does the pdf have apassword and you already know it?
[11:44] <ozzmosis> irmandos_mobile: I don't know
[11:44] <Pixels> ozzmosis: thanks
[11:44] <Pixels> and thanks to CyberBUNKER :)
[11:44] <ozzmosis> Pixels: I guess so.  I just use chmod.
[11:46] <tbaxter> If I'm having spontaneous lock-ups on my laptop running Jaunty and am getting nothing from the logs and 15 passes with memtest86+ found no errors, what could be my next area to check on?
[11:46] <jtaji> tbaxter: intel wireless/video ?
[11:46] <coz_> tbaxter,   video driver?
[11:47] <tbaxter> how can I test it?
[11:47] <coz_> tbaxter,   first which video card   lspci | grep -i vga
[11:47] <darlek> !ja
[11:48] <ozzmosis> spontaneous lockups on a laptop would be fun .. can't exactly pull out bits and swap them over
[11:48] <tbaxter> ATI Radeon HD 3400 Series
[11:48] <coz_> tbaxter,  and do you know which driver you are using for that?
[11:49] <jtaji> tbaxter: how about: lspci | grep -i wireless
[11:49] <tbaxter> the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX one.
[11:49] <coz_> tbaxter,   I am not up on ati  at alll but  fglrx may be the issue   have you found out if that card can run the open source driver?
[11:49] <tbaxter> Atheros AR928X Wireless Adapter
[11:50] <tbaxter> I think it can, but with no 3d
[11:50] <jtaji> tbaxter: I would start suspecting the video as coz_  suggested
[11:50] <coz_> tbaxter,   well I dont know if there are ati experts here but i do know that on #compiz the two people you can talk with are adamk  and soreau
[11:50] <tbaxter> so disabling the proprietary driver should maybe fix it?
[11:51] <coz_> tbaxter,   in there I only do nvidia   compiz support  no ati here :)
[11:51] <coz_> tbaxter,  i would check with adamk  in #compiz
[11:51] <coz_> tbaxter,   let me check if he is logged on hold on
[11:51] <tbaxter> thanks.
[11:51] <coz_> tbaxter,  he is  but not sure if he is at his system since he does support from work
[11:52] <coz_> tbaxter,  check it out none the less   let him know you are getting lock ups  whihjc video card and which driver
[11:52] <tbaxter> cool.
[11:52] <tbaxter> thanks.
[11:52] <coz_> no prblen tbaxter
[11:56] <NerbBBork> Hoaw do you use Nessus on IPs outsidfe your local network
[11:56] <thebe> thank you
[11:56] <thebe> I did
[11:58] <blip-> ! gpgerror
[11:58] <blip-> !gpgerror
[11:58] <blip-> !keyerror gpg
[11:58] <blip-> !keyerror
[12:00] <blip-> can someone help me get the message about fixing gpg errors when I apt-get update ?
[12:00] <blip-> it involved 2 parts,   !x y  but I can't remember what
[12:08] <Dam0> im fuken sick im going ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
[12:09] <Mbear> Hi all$
[12:10] <Mbear> Am running 9.04 desktop on a desktop and 9.04 netbook remix on a netbook.  I want to control the desktop machine from the netbook using remote desktop, how do I do that, please?  Thx
[12:11] <chi_> hi guys, i used to use the madwifi on my wlan-device, but somehow propertery driver activated (?WTF?) and now i cant find the divice in ifconfig/iwconfig anymore??? lspci lists the card... how should i proceed?
[12:12] <d0nny> vnc, ssh, GDM take your pick Mbear
[12:13] <Mbear> D0nny, I have rdesktop on the netbook, it connects to a windows machine on the network fine, can I use it to connecnt to the Ubuntu?  If so, what command,  Thanks
[12:14] <d0nny> rdesktop is RDP ubuntu isn't windows..
[12:15] <blip-> anyone know how to use  ubottu to bring up the page about gpg key errors and their fix ?
[12:15] <milostrife> hey could anyone help me i have ubuntu installed at the moment but i need to install xp for work but if i install xp will i be able to pick which os i can load up? or will it destroy the selection options as i know if you install ubuntu when windows is already installed you get the option to choose
[12:15] <Mbear> D0nny, granted... OK, so first I install vnc, ssh, or GDM on the netbook and see what happens.... thx
[12:15] <d0nny> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[12:15] <thebe> could you tell me how to make tar of a folder??
[12:16] <thebe> i applied tar -cZf /home/thebe/ /home/thebe/test but it gives error
[12:16] <blip-> thebe: we could, but you forget it the next day.  I highly recommend you type "man tar" and try to learn what the different flags do
[12:16] <jrib> thebe: did you check the man page for examples?
[12:16] <d0nny> lol
[12:17] <d0nny> I was almost tempted to give away the answer to the tar question..
[12:17] <jrib> thebe: also, if you don't want to be bothered with teh man page, right click -> create archive
[12:17] <chi_> thebe , without knowing TAR i guess you cant get the target within the source ????
[12:17] <blip-> !keyerr gpg
[12:17] <jrib> !ask | blip-
[12:17] <blip-> !errkey gpg
[12:18] <blip-> jrib: I did ask twice :)   "anyone know how to use  ubottu to bring up the page about gpg key errors and their fix ?"
[12:18] <jrib> blip-: then use a private message with ubottu plese
[12:18] <thebe> thank you I will check man page
[12:18] <kenyon> blip-: tell ubottu search gpg
[12:18] <blip-> ok jrib
[12:18] <blip-> stop the tell, I know how to use the bot
[12:19] <NerbBBork> Could anyone here help me with a quesiton about nessus
[12:19] <d0nny> yes I know a little about nessus
[12:19] <jrib> !gpgerr > blip-
[12:19] <blip-> ah yes that's the one, thanks jrib
[12:19] <jrib> !ask | NerbBBork
[12:19] <kenyon> blip-: if you knew how to use the bot, then why didn't you search it?
[12:20] <chi_> hi guys, i used to use the madwifi on my wlan-device, but somehow propertery driver activated (?WTF?) and now i cant find the divice in ifconfig/iwconfig anymore??? lspci lists the card... how should i proceed?
[12:20] <blip-> kenyon: hmm I don't know it that well, didn't know of a search feature
[12:21] <WishingMasterMin> well simple query for masters--i have downloaded the open office package and i want to install it,what is the command for installation?
[12:21] <kenyon> blip-: well that's what I was suggesting
[12:21] <jrib> WishingMasterMin: delete what you have downloaded and use synaptic instead
[12:21] <jrib> !software > WishingMasterMin
[12:21] <NerbBBork> Could someone answer a question about NEssus?  How od I get it to scan a remote server ?
[12:21] <blip-> ok I learned it now, thanks kenyon
[12:22] <d0nny>  !software > WishingMasterMin
[12:22] <WishingMasterMin> jrib, thanks for your suggestion,however i want to install it through the downloaded package
[12:22] <d0nny>  !software > d0nny
[12:22] <jrib> WishingMasterMin: why?  That's not recommended
[12:22] <WishingMasterMin> jrib, please just give me the command
[12:23] <edoreld> I know this is the #ubuntu channel....but I'm kind of desperate and was wondering if anyone knows the name of that series where missiles fall all over America and only one town is left...
[12:23] <jrib> WishingMasterMin: read ubottu's information, it tells you how.  Hopefully it will also convince you that using the repositories is better
[12:23] <jrib> !ot | edoreld
[12:23] <edoreld> ah
[12:23] <edoreld> didn't know that ^_^
[12:24] <swoke> Hey ! :)
[12:26] <swoke> Is there a way to enable "Software" for USB key ? I got a USB key, with autorun.sh at the root, I need to autorun this script, but on preferences, I got "no software found", any idea ? (buntu 9.04)
[12:27] <jrib> swoke: you could probably do something with udev (google writing udev rules), but that's all I will say as I'm just giving you something to look into.  I'm not claiming this is a good way to do it
[12:27] <swoke> jrib: okay
[12:28] <darlek> !software | darlek
[12:28] <nmvictor> how do i write the copyright character in open office?
[12:28] <jrib> !ooo | nmvictor, try the ooo channel if no one here knows:
[12:29] <swoke> jrib: thanks again !
[12:30] <nmvictor> whats the channel name for open office ?
[12:30] <jrib> nmvictor: read ubottu's message at the end...
[12:31] <coz_> nmvictor,  I believe it is  #openoffice.org
[12:31] <nmvictor> jrib and coz_, thanks
[12:31] <mmm4m5m> question please: I am using ubuntu 7.10. Going to upgrade to 8.04. First Installed all update from gutsy. Now I notice there are update in gutsy/backports. Do I have to install before upgrade to 8.04?
[12:32] <jrib> mmm4m5m: update-manager will do all that for you
[12:32] <jony123> can someone help me i've got a shell script that connects and gets the file it works and its all fine and dandy but i want to expand it.  What i want it to do it when it runs it gets the file but renames it to the current date
[12:32] <jony123>  the file would be called picaxe.bas on the ftp server and on the local computer i would want it to be for example 29-05-09.bas
[12:32] <jrib> jony123: #bash
[12:32] <mmm4m5m> jrib: but it depends what I have in sources.list (which is modified)
[12:32] <jrib> mmm4m5m: if you already have backports enabled, then install the updates
[12:32] <nmvictor> ooh NOOO!!,im the only one over their.doesnt anyone have a key combination or whatever in ming,something that will result to the copyright character?
[12:33] <jinsong> hello
[12:33] <jrib> nmvictor: I can tell you *a* way: use gnome character map
[12:33] <dhalsimm> hi, I'm not able to run flv files in smplayer but totem plays fine, so what is wrong (changing audio from pulse to alsa doesn't work)
[12:35] <nmvictor> jrib: i tried character map and no help,im really short of ideas
[12:35] <jrib> nmvictor: it's there
[12:35] <milostrife> how to do reinstall the linux boot loader?
[12:35] <DaZ> !grub | milostrife
[12:35] <mmm4m5m> jrib: backports means... not tested (there is comment in sources.list). I think is better if I do not install these updates
[12:35] <jrib> nmvictor: under common
[12:36] <nmvictor>  jrib: there where?any exact point
[12:36] <milostrife> thanks
[12:36] <jrib> mmm4m5m: like I said, if you have them enabled install the updates.  If you do not have them enabled do not enable them
[12:36] <jrib> nmvictor: under "common"
[12:36] <Erler> You think that's a tough problem?  I need to find a way to read in a value from javascript variable into an Erlang variable within the Nitrogen framework.
[12:36] <jrib> nmvictor: ctrl-shift-u 00A9 ©
[12:37] <nmvictor>  jrib: i appreciate your help but im not seeing it under common
[12:37] <kenyon> mmm4m5m: that's not backports, you're thinking of proposed updates
[12:37] <jrib> nmvictor: scroll... or just use the key combination I've just given you
[12:37] <kenyon> mmm4m5m: backports come from the next version of ubuntu, which you are trying to update to anyway
[12:38] <nmvictor> jrib,what with the key combination?i type them in text to copy box or what?
[12:38] <kynes> #appengine
[12:38] <jrib> nmvictor: press:  ctrl-shift-u 00A9
[12:39] <Idhan> hi, I want to buy a tv-card, any recomandation suggestion to get it work on linux and windows?
[12:39] <mmm4m5m> kenyon: I am not looking at user interface but sources.list. First update (for example) is: compiz, available from 'gutsy', 'gutsy-updates' and 'gutsy-backports'. Currently installed from 'gutsy-updates'. Offer is to install new version from 'gutsy-backports'. What to do :)
[12:40] <nmvictor> its possible to press all those characters,including 00A9?
[12:40] <kenyon> mmm4m5m: just update, you'll be going to a newer version by updating to hardy anyway
[12:40] <mmm4m5m> kenyon: ok
[12:40] <jrib> nmvictor: hit ctrl-shift-u, release, hit 0, release, hit 0, release, hit a, release, hit 9, release, space
[12:40] <kenyon> mmm4m5m: and then an even newer version might be in intrepid, and so on
[12:41] <mmm4m5m> kenyon, jrib: I am not really sure how much packages I have from backports (do not remember when I enable/add that repository...)
[12:41] <darlek> ©
[12:41] <jrib> mmm4m5m: it doesn't matter
[12:41] <darlek> works
[12:41] <kenyon> mmm4m5m: it doesn't matter
[12:41] <jrib> mmm4m5m: just upgrade
[12:41] <mmm4m5m> ok :)
[12:41] <nmvictor> jrib, that produces x13;
[12:42] <darlek> © try it now nmvictor, ©
[12:42] <jrib> nmvictor: try again (pressing the correct keys this time)
[12:42]  * mmm4m5m like upgrade form win98 to winxp... just feeling afraid... lets see
[12:42] <billybigrigger> who here is good with raid?
[12:42] <darlek> the key is hitting the space bar, as that releases the special character to the text box here, or your document there
[12:42] <jrib> nmvictor: you need to be in some gtk window iirc
[12:43] <billybigrigger> i seemed to have lost my md0 device...but sda and sdb are both recognized as Linux raid autodetect in fdisk...how do i go about re-creating md0?
[12:43] <kenyon> mmm4m5m: you are probably wise to be a bit cautious though... if it does what you want, why change, right? :)
[12:43] <nmvictor>  jrib: im on pidgin,if thats what you are asking
[12:44] <jrib> nmvictor: should work in pidgin
[12:45] <Symmetry> Is there any one available to help me fix a display problem on my laptop?
[12:45] <mmm4m5m> kenyon: I unstalled updates everyday... since 6 months back. Then I stop - it is working. Yesterday I found out that less or more I have to stay with current versions - for example, gutsy repos. not available anymore. like that
[12:45] <jrib> !ask | Symmetry
[12:45] <nmvictor> ©
[12:45] <kenyon> mmm4m5m: yep
[12:45] <darlek> yay ©
[12:45] <nmvictor> jrib,thanks very much
[12:46] <darlek> cool trick
[12:46] <nmvictor> darlek: thanks for encouragements too
[12:46] <darlek> I"m a bit loopy at this point, up for 12 hours....np!
[12:47] <jony123> Quu if you where wondering it was get remotefilename localfilename
[12:47] <Symmetry> OK. My Dell Latitude c600 has a display problem. THe screen looks as tho something copied the ends of the screen and put them in the middle kinda...
[12:47] <Erler> I hear the energy drink Vigor is pretty good darlek
[12:47] <Erler> Supposadly it has 300mg of cof. much more than other energy drinks.
[12:47] <colblood> can ubuntu play a bluray that isnt protected? i mean, not just playing the m2ts, but the whole bluray structure, with menus and all
[12:48] <thomson> hola
[12:48] <darlek> !blueray
[12:48] <darlek> ar ubo arrr
[12:50] <Futurity> hi, i've just installed a better graphics card into my first ubuntu machines, but how do I change the resolution
[12:50] <jrib> Futurity: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[12:50] <Futurity> it only gives the old resolution options for 800x600 and lower
[12:51] <jrib> !fixres > Futurity
[12:51] <jrib> Futurity: make sure you are using the right driver
[12:52] <nmvictor> is their a virtual dj or some dj mixing software for ubunbtulinux
[12:52] <Get_Sum> Do ppl just use the standard appearance of Ubuntu, or are there some really cool themes out there that all the coolies use?
[12:52] <jrib> !themes > Get_Sum
[12:54] <Futurity> hmm, still only have the 800x600 resolution option
[12:55] <zaggynl> How do I disable sound on ubuntu 9.04 livecd boot? I plugged in a headset this time, but this laptop does not have mechanical volume control, as most new laptops do not have.
[12:55] <Futurity> start->System Settings->Display
[12:55] <Futurity> did the recomended restart but still the same resolutions
[12:56] <jrib> Futurity: the page recommends more than just restarting... and it also has more than one suggestion
[12:56] <prag> hello
[12:56] <prag> hello
[12:56] <prag> hello
[12:56] <prag> hello
[12:56] <FloodBot2> prag: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <jrib> !hi | prag
[12:57] <Futurity> thanks
[12:57] <prag> oh sorry i thought i was disconnected so i had to check
[12:57] <darlek> !fixres > darlek
[12:58] <csaba> I've set up vnc on my home computer, opened the ports etc. and it works, I'm able to move the mouse, however the remote screen is black. What is the problem?
[12:58] <prag> how do i boot into ubuntu using virtual machine server
[12:58] <aprilhare> "Cannot unmount the volume 'WCS2004'." "umount: only ivman can unmount /dev/scd0 from /media/cdrom0" what's going on here?.. its followed by "unable to eject WCS2004 DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply"
[12:58] <aprilhare> trying to eject a cd :)
[12:59] <coz_> aprilhare,   in terminal try   eject -t
[12:59] <mmm4m5m> kenyon: sorry, but one last question: is there terminal version of "upGrade" command? So I can see everything. For example it say just summary like "X will be removed/installed/updated". And the worst it is GUI, not very convinient.
[12:59] <aprilhare> coz_: do you mean eject -t /media/cdrom0 ?
[13:00] <coz_> aprilhare,  nope just type    eject -t    see what happens
[13:00] <aprilhare> coz_: nothing happened
[13:00] <coz_> aprilhare,  mm  hold on
[13:01] <aprilhare> my desktop has disappeared!
[13:01] <aprilhare> that is, background image, nothing else
[13:01] <coz_> aprilhare,   ah oh
[13:01] <coz_> aprilhare,  ah which video card?
[13:01] <aprilhare> nvidia 9500GT
[13:02] <coz_> aprilhare, ok  and the driver is working well?
[13:02] <aprilhare> yes
[13:02] <aprilhare> driver working well
[13:02] <nmvictor> aprilhare: destop dissapeared?probably nautilus.the file browser has shutdown unexpectadly
[13:02] <aprilhare> nmvictor: there are nautilus windows open
[13:02] <aprilhare> just no icons on desktop
[13:03] <prag> how do i access ubuntu from xp
[13:03] <nmvictor>  aprilhare: ok,something else i suppose
[13:03] <coz_> aprilhare,  yeah nautilus crashed
[13:03] <coz_> aprilhare,   I would reboot the system
[13:03] <aprilhare> will probably have to now :)
[13:03] <DaZ> prag: totalcommander or ext2fs
[13:03] <prag> thanks daz
[13:04] <DaZ> prag: if it's not ext or reiser then you can't
[13:04] <DaZ> prag: and if it's ext4 then you can't either :f
[13:05] <kenyon> mmm4m5m: yes, aptitude is the command
[13:07] <shashwatpns> is there any alternative to aptoncd
[13:07] <shashwatpns> ?????????????????????????????????????
[13:09] <shashwatpns> is there any alternative to aptoncd ?????????????????????????????????????
[13:09] <Pici> shashwatpns: Please stop with the question marks, its not needed.
[13:09] <CandleJack> quick you guys, he used a bunch of ?'s, you gotta answer him now!
[13:10] <danielrmt> !patience | shashwatpns
[13:10] <Pici> !offline > shashwatpns
[13:10] <DaZ> !leave | shashwatpns
[13:10] <DaZ> :<
[13:10] <Pici> DaZ: Thats not helpful either...
[13:12] <oDuda> hello all !
[13:13] <oDuda> i will install ubuntu 9.04, and have some doubts... anybody please ?
[13:13] <Pici> !ask
[13:13] <thiebaude> oDuda: what doubts?
[13:13] <Cr4zY|0n3> hi all, i am looking to get my inbuilt wireless network adapter to work on ubuntu, i have ubuntu installed onto a Toshiba L300-12L laptop.  any help would be greatly appreciated
[13:14] <nmvictor> oDuda:what sort of doubts?
[13:14] <csaba> when I connect to my computer with vnc I am connected (the mouse moves) but the screen is black. Apparently this is a problem with gdm. Any idea how to fix it? I have 9.04
[13:15] <pepe_> uka==
[13:15] <kasuko> does anyone know where I can find info on how to hook into the indicator-applet?
[13:16] <oDuda> thiebaude, nmvictor: thank you ! i have windows xp installed at first hd (with grub) and ubuntu 8.xx installed at second hd... if i install ubuntu 9.04 on second hd over 8.xx, do i will need to change something at 1st hd (grub) - may i lost windows boot ? thanks...
[13:17] <Jack_Sparrow> oDuda You wont lose the windows boot, easy to fix should that happen anyhow.
[13:17] <Pici> kasuko: It uses libnotify. libnotify-bin has a notify-send executable in it for sending events 'manually' to the notification-daemon.
[13:17] <thiebaude> oDuda: i was never good at 2 hd's only dual booting on one
[13:17] <hellues> hey
[13:17] <hellues> how can i fix that error
[13:17] <hellues> Window manager warning: Attempt to perform window operation 20 on window none when operation 20 on none already in effect
[13:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > hellues
[13:18] <oDuda> ty thiebaude...
[13:18] <hellues> okey
[13:18] <coz_> oDuda,  dual booting from separate hard drives is nice choice I do it here as well
[13:18] <hellues> sorry but how can i solve that error
[13:18] <thiebaude> yw,oDuda
[13:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !details > hellues
[13:19] <Cr4zY|0n3> any idea how i can get my wireless adapter to work on ubuntu?  trying to get my wireless adapter to work on my toshiba l300d-12l laptop.
[13:19] <prag> can i access ubuntu thru virtual machine server from xp i already go tubuntu and xp dual booting
[13:19] <oDuda> ty Jack_Sparrow
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:20] <oDuda> ty coz_ !!!...
[13:20] <hellues> i am running compiz compiz doesnt work i make my desktop view as metacity but i start to take that error
[13:20] <coz_> oDuda,  yep  wise choice there :)
[13:20] <thiebaude> coz_: how does the 2 hd work, do you get a choice at boot-up
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> thiebaude yes, grub menu is the same either way
[13:21] <oDuda> Jack_Sparrow : ubuntu installation will to change something on grub at 1st hd ?
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[13:21] <coz_> thiebaude,  no difference in grub at all
[13:21] <thiebaude> Jack_Sparrow: cool, so put one os on 1 then 2nd os on the 2nd drive
[13:22] <Symmetry> Nevermind! I fixed it!
[13:22] <Symmetry> Thanks anyways!
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> thiebaude I put both os on the first drive, all my data partitions on the second and I have a seperate /home for upgrades
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !home
[13:22] <thiebaude> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the info
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:22] <Cr4zY|0n3> what command can i use to see my wireless adapter?
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Cr4zY|0n3 lsusb or lspci
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> lshw
[13:23] <oDuda> Jack_Sparrow:  just updating your /home will get you an ubuntu like a fresh install ?
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> oDuda You dont update your home, you update / root and your home is untouched
[13:24] <Dreamglider> turned my laptop on about two hours ago, and after ½ an hour the fans started at full blast had have been going ever since running 8.10 on a inspiron 9400 with newly(about 1 month) cleaned heatsinks/fan and paste
[13:24] <oDuda> Jack_Sparrow yes sorry the mistake :-)
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[13:24] <thiebaude> oDuda: because home is seperate
[13:24] <oDuda> thiebaud yes !
[13:25] <thiebaude> cool
[13:25] <sll> hello everybody! I'm interested to obtain a bluetoooth hedset, recomendations and suggestions are welcome thanks!
[13:25] <Dreamglider> sensors show 39deg and 44deg C
[13:25] <oDuda> thiebaud, JackSparrow : separating partitions just yet advanced to me... (newbie)... hehe
[13:26] <person2> In the past, I've been unable to remove an application in synaptic because removing the metapackage wouldn't remove its dependencies. I've gathered that aptitude doesn't suffer from such a problem, but aptitude's not as easy. What should a newbie use?
[13:27] <oDuda> Jack_Sparrow : installation will ask me for changes in grub at 1st hd ?
[13:28] <oDuda> what your impressons about 9.04 version ?
[13:28] <mmm4m5m> kenyon: sweet and pretty terminal output: do-release-upgrade. Wondering where to stop, at 8.04, 8.10 or 9.04...
[13:28] <coz_> oDuda,  if you are reinstalling over top of the previous ubuntu disk  no need to do anything but reinstall     grub will be installed automatically and should pick up on the windows  disk as well
[13:29] <coz_> oDuda,  i9.04 is fine
[13:29] <coz_> oDuda,  sorry  9.04 is fine :)
[13:29] <oDuda> coz_ nothing to worry about this ?
[13:29] <coz_> oDuda,  about the reinstall?  no
[13:29] <oDuda>  coz_ yes !!!! thank you !
[13:29] <thiebaude> oDuda: and its faster with ext4
[13:30] <coz_> oDuda,  i assume you are going to use the 9.04 install disk correct?
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow> oDuda YEs, you would use manual partitiong to set one of your ext3 or other linux partitions to mount as /home
[13:30] <Keparat> i need shell
[13:30] <coz_> Jack_Sparrow,   as a default install?
[13:30] <alexidoia> hi upgrading to the latest version brought me this error at boot time: ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/blablabla does not exists it opened the safety limited shell, any help would be appreciated
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow> oDuda ext4 may be faster, but since this is the first release of ext4 in ubutnu, I stuck with old reliable ext3
[13:30] <oDuda> coz_ just downloading... ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[13:31] <Idhan> any advice for a tv-card?
[13:31] <tudonn> iv been using ext4 for months already
[13:31] <coz_> oDuda,   are you backing up any information from the previous ubuntu?
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> coz_ expand on your question, I dont understand it
[13:31] <ranf> !tv | Idhan
[13:31] <oDuda> Jack_Sparrow - yes i avoid newers things not too deep tested :-)
[13:32] <coz_> Jack_Sparrow,  i was just curious about your last statement!  oDuda YEs, you would use manual partitiong to set one of your ext3 or other linux partitions to mount as /home
[13:32] <tudonn> do midi keyboards work out of the box on ubuntu? or wich ones do
[13:32] <oDuda> coz_ not from ubuntu - but i cant lost windows data...
[13:32] <scantlin> hello all
[13:32] <Jack_Sparrow> coz_ Ok, yes, you can do that as part of a regular full install
[13:32] <shadeslayer> hi strange problem,firefox works but not apt or synaptic...any ideas??
[13:32] <coz_> oDuda,   if you want to save any data from the ubuntu install you have  back it up now  otherwise  it should go well
[13:32] <eurythmia> hey, I'm running jaunty, and I have an ati radeon hd 3450, running with the fglrx module, in my xorg.conf I have : Option "EnableRandR12" "false" # and I still can't get extended desktop, when I run "aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1" it writes out the config, but I still only get mirrored displays. Could somebody please help me get my extended, or big, desktop?
[13:33] <coz_> Jack_Sparrow, ok I think he is interested in just a default install over top of previous ubuntu   I believe ")
[13:33] <eurythmia> (Additional info: using xinerama breaks everything)
[13:33] <Jack_Sparrow> coz_ Understood, but it makes sense to setup sep home while he is at it
[13:33] <FREESHELLS> I am offering FREE UNIX SHELLS for psyBNC or Eggdrop, anyone interested, contact me
[13:33] <coz_> eurythmia,   if no one can help here   try #compiz
[13:33] <oDuda> coz_ yes but from ubuntu i dont have any important data... i just used it to tests and to apreciate the system...
[13:33] <Jack_Sparrow> eurythmia xinerama and compiz are not friends
[13:33] <coz_> oDuda,  ok then no worries :)
[13:34] <oDuda> coz_ thanks
[13:34] <eurythmia> Jack_Sparrow, then how do I disable compiz, if that, indeed, is the problem?
[13:34] <eurythmia> ... or, how do I find out if I'm even running compiz, because I don't think that I am.
[13:34] <shadeslayer> are the repos down or something?
[13:34] <Jack_Sparrow> eurythmia right click desktop , change wallpaper, last tab on wallpaper is visual effects
[13:35] <oDuda> Guys i wanna thank you all ! too much ! this is the best channel i visited ! :-)
[13:35] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeslayer Which release of ubuntu
[13:35] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: 9.04
[13:35] <Jack_Sparrow> oDuda np, welcome to Ubuntu
[13:35] <eurythmia> Jack_Sparrow, ah ... I'm running kubuntu, but I have disabled visual effects.
[13:35] <etfb> Trying to write a bash script that will handle args like "foo -xf filename -yz foo bar baz" by treating -x, -y and -z as flags, -f as an option with an argument (filename), and foo, bar and baz as three remaining arguments.  How do I do that?  Any tutorials out there?
[13:35] <azeotrope> how do I add new programs I want to auto load when ubuntu boots (e.g. vidalia)
[13:35] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb Please /join #bash
[13:35] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: i cant run apt via terminal or synaptic
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[13:36] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: It's a bit of a newbie question.  Will it be welcome?
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Gosh I love our factoids
[13:36] <azeotrope> there is no sessions entry
[13:36] <eurythmia> Jack_Sparrow, agreed :)
[13:36] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: its not locked :|
[13:36] <azeotrope> nm i guess its "Startup Applications" now
[13:36] <azeotrope> somone should change that factoid, its out of date in 9.04
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb That is why there is bash, just for those questions.
[13:37] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: Cool; thanks.  I'm there now...
[13:37] <eurythmia> Jack_Sparrow, can you think of any other good references offhand? I've been scouring google, but I only found one possible solution in the ubuntu forums, and it didn't work for me :/
[13:37] <oDuda> Jack_Sparrow: im always curious about ubuntu and nvidia cards (video)... ubuntu has best performance if compared to windows drivers ?
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> eurythmia ati has a channel here somewhere
[13:37] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: any idea??
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !irc
[13:37] <eurythmia> Jack_Sparrow, kk, I'm on it, thanks.
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeslayer Did you see the aptfix link
[13:38] <eurythmia> oDuda, the nvidia drivers under *nix are pretty mature and good .... never buy an ati card though ;)
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> oDuda All nvidia here as well
[13:38] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: as i said its noy locked....it says connecting to the repo and then times out
[13:38] <shadeslayer> *not
[13:38] <alphaaquilae> how can i chat from terminal?
[13:38] <oDuda> yess !
[13:38] <shadeslayer> alphaaquilae: irssi ftw
[13:38] <shadeslayer> !irssi > alphaaquilae
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeslayer Use the pastebin and post your /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:38] <oDuda> eurythmia but about comparing windows and linux drivers.. what is the best performance ?
[13:39] <eurythmia> I don't have numbers, but google might.
[13:39] <Jack_Sparrow> oDuda Avoid comparisons in here, it leads to chaos
[13:39] <oDuda> hahahaha
[13:39] <eurythmia> oDuda, I suspect that they are comparable though.
[13:39] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/183631/
[13:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[13:40] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: got disconnected for a sec there
[13:41] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeslayer # rem out those ppa's   then sudo apt-get update and try again
[13:41] <oDuda> but you all are right ! even *nix has the same perfornance on a 8086 (remember?)... i will stay with it !...
[13:41] <oDuda> the free to use is the best of the world...
[13:43] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: nope
[13:43] <tomaz> people,
[13:43] <tomaz> I'm trying to use subversion packaged for ubuntu
[13:43] <tomaz> and I'm geting
[13:43] <milostrife> anyone help me with making my flash stick bootable without loseing the files i have stored on it it's a scandisk cruzer 16gib stick
[13:43] <tomaz> svn: warning: Error handling externals definition for 'kdgantt':
[13:43] <tomaz> svn: warning: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdepim/kdgantt'
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeslayer did it update and can you pastebin the rem'd list
[13:44] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: no it did not update
[13:44] <tomaz> looks like subversion is build without ssl support
[13:44] <oDuda> <--- be right back
[13:44] <peppo> anyone running jaunty and having problems compiz+screenlet widget layer where widget layer disappears on every single screenlet move operation?
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> milostrife Backup before working at that level on any storage device
[13:44] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/183634/
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> peppo /join #compiz
[13:45] <oDuda> anybody knows about kubuntu / ubuntu and LTSP ?
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeslayer 57 58 and 59 are ppas too
[13:46] <badcat> greetings all, i'm trying to set up my permission in udev and it shows up completely blank. i used this command: sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules  anyone?
[13:46] <milostrife> Jack_Sparrow then what do i do?
[13:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb > milostrife
[13:47] <oDuda> i use debian with LTSP (10 stations) and i wanna to use (k)ubuntu with ... somebody knows anything about ?
[13:47] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: done..no go
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> badcat fyi  gksudo gedit if you please.. much safer
[13:47] <milostrife> Jack_Sparrow: thanks :)
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeslayer No idea, you may have something else going on or may hafve installed something else causing an issue
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> milostrife np
[13:48] <shadeslayer> Jack_Sparrow: ok...ill see what can be done
[13:48] <shadeslayer> bye
[13:49] <badcat> Jack_Sparrow thanks
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> badcat you are welcome
[13:49] <abhiSri> i said something wrong??
[13:49] <abhiSri> how to stop plasma thing in KDE , Ubuntu 8.10
[13:49] <abhiSri> i am using this first time
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[13:50] <coz_> oDuda,   also just make sure you choose the correct hard drive when installing this :)
[13:50] <abhiSri> some one please help me out
[13:51] <coz_> abhiSri,   I bet they can tell you in   #kde
[13:51] <LaMs> Good Morning
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> abhiSri What plasma thing are you refering to, fyi there is a #kubuntu channel
[13:52] <coz_> oDuda,  in the process of installing when it gets to partition  manager you want to choose   "guided partition  use entire disk and chooe the correct disk
[13:52] <Zinkeh> era
[13:52] <coz_> ok I need to break for breakfast   be back later
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> oDuda FYI when running livecd you can install xchat for that session and come here during your install providing internet is detected etc
[13:55] <cadman21> I have ubuntu 8.10 on my hp pavilion laptop and I'm trying to have dual monitors. can anyone help me?
[13:55] <epiclulz> i need some help
[13:55] <epiclulz> c++ related
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[13:55] <jake_> cadman21, what graphics chipset does it use?
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> epiclulz Please find a C++ channel
[13:55] <jake_> #C++
[13:56] <epiclulz> ok ty
[13:56] <badcat> Jack_Sparrow: is my permissions file supposed to contain anything? because it opens as a blank page.
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> badcat Which file, a wrong path will bring up a blank page
[13:56] <conv> Why wouldn't my desktop load for my original account? Just the mouse shows. A guest account loads.
[13:56]  * Penfold scratches head. Ok. Anyone any suggestions for why what used to be a perfectly well behaved NFS mount of my NAS on a Debian sarge box should start hanging when I try and access it from my new Jaunty box?
[13:56]  * conv is a ubu noob
[13:57] <gordonjcp> conv: some seriously broken config for your login?
[13:57] <mattsqz> dual monitors on an hp laptop eh
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> conv did you try to install new video drivers etc?
[13:57] <conv> I did not
[13:57] <mattsqz> nvidia ?
[13:57] <gordonjcp> conv: if you make a new user, does that work?
[13:57] <jake_> with nvidia it's easy.
[13:57] <epiclulz> my ubuntu is chucking errors
[13:57] <mattsqz> if so run nvidia-settings and its cake
[13:57] <jake_> conv,  adduser yourusername
[13:58] <conv> gordonjcp: I haven't tried. The guest account is a limited account
[13:58] <gordonjcp> okay
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !details > epiclulz
[13:58] <jake_> press control alt + 1-5 for a new session.