[08:12] <raven79> haffy:  and then reboot
[08:12] <fdoving> raven79: i suggest using 'sudo -i' instead of 'sudo su'
[08:12] <nagyv> raven79: do you prefer GUIs for ppp?
[08:12] <haffy> raven79:  I have fucked that up allready, there is no root account that I can log into, beacuse I don have the permissions to to "su -"
[08:13] <simo> change passwd you m,ust (vi passwd) then you can change passwd for ROOT
[08:13] <Sharkey> i'm trying to install kubuntu but it won't detect my cdrom player so installation freezes, how can i install my cdrom?
[08:13] <raven79> nagyv: gui? bleah! :D there isn't a command line command like rp-ppoe package?
[08:13] <raven79> adsl-start, or pppoe-start?
[08:13] <haffy> simo: And what shall I do after "vi passwd"
[08:13] <nagyv> MasterEvilAce: you mean that it should take care of the time when your computer is turned off and run after?
[08:14] <raven79> (is not a gui question, but i know that package...only for that)
[08:14] <fdoving> haffy: reboot to recovery mode, and add yourself to the 'admin' group with the command 'adduser username admin' where username is your login name.
[08:14] <raven79> haffy: you must remove the x near root entry
[08:15] <MasterEvilAce> nagyv: Well, my computer locked up while using it. The only thing I can think of is that my prelinking cronjob started up and was raping my CPU
[08:15] <fdoving> haffy: now reboot and use sudo as normal, the command 'sudo passwd' will let you enable the root account and set a password. all this editing passwd by hand stuff is not needed.
[08:15] <haffy> fdoving: I don have the permissions to change somting outside /home/haffy
[08:15] <Buffy^> !mp3
[08:15] <MasterEvilAce> nagyv: personally that is something that should be done when i'm not touching the computer, in my opinion
[08:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:15] <fdoving> haffy: if you reboot to recoverymode you will have.
[08:15] <raven79> haffy i think that most quickly way to solve you problem is  to boot with a livecd...and then typing: "passwd root"
[08:15] <simo> If is not wwork you must start runlevel 1 is linux singel then you can change passwd for ROOT
[08:15] <haffy> or install gentoo ;-)
[08:15] <Sharkey> i'm trying to install kubuntu but it won't detect my cdrom player so installation freezes, how can i install my cdrom?
[08:16] <fdoving> haffy: did you read my previous messages? that's the easy way.
[08:16] <nagyv> MasterEvilAce: all right, now I think have understood your question. The cronjob will run even if you use your compouter once it has to do so.
[08:17] <haffy> fdoving: missed it, I will try that
[08:17] <haffy> cya
[08:17] <raven79> nagyv: so you can help me? either gui is good...if there is not a command line to type...(but i don't has the internet to download a package)
[08:18] <nagyv> raven79: without the not I can't help. Do you have a gprs capable mobile phone?
[08:18] <raven79> no...infact i'm without ideas...
[08:19] <raven79> i cannot connect to the net to download anything, and so i cannot solve the network problem....this is like a snake that eat its tail
[08:19] <arcasa> Someone PLEASE help me! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263625
[08:19] <simo> my wireless is not work!how I can do+
[08:19] <raven79> some ideas?
[08:19] <fdoving> raven79: what is your problem?
[08:20] <fdoving> arcasa: looks like you need some windows fonts.
[08:20] <nagyv> simo: is it recognized? (System Settings, Networking)
[08:20] <arcasa> Where from?
[08:20] <fdoving> simo: what wifi card?
[08:20] <fdoving> arcasa: windows.
[08:20] <raven79> i has an adsl...but i cannot locate on my system rp-pppoe (the package to start adsl: adsl-start neither pppoe-start are present on my system)
[08:20] <arcasa> Windows fonts from Windows?
[08:21] <arcasa> I mean where do I get them?
[08:21] <raven79> so i cannot connect to internet, neither to download the package to make my net work...
[08:21] <simo> 801.1/a/somthing lik this
[08:21] <fdoving> arcasa: from c:\windows\fonts or something. don't know.
[08:21] <arcasa> Aha. I shall steal them from our Windows PC downstairs.
[08:21] <nagyv> raven79: no ideas :(
[08:22] <raven79> nagyv: thanks anyway ;)
[08:22] <octan> is there a tool that can send a Xmessage to a diff host? i know of xmessage but to use that i need to ssh into the host first and export the display and export the XAUTHORITY=/home/$user/.Xauthority
[08:23] <nagyv> raven79: once you are close to net. You should download to an usb stick for example the knet, ppp, pppconfig, pppoeconf and wvdial packages.
[08:23] <bobesponja> abattoir: I don't have access to /mnt in amarok , do you know why?
[08:23] <nagyv> raven79: I hope these will be enough.
[08:23] <raven79> the basic problem is that installing kubuntu it does not asked me something about the net....it was not able to connect to internet (and that is obvious as i could not setted up my connection parameter) and so it thought that there isn't a network...
[08:24] <Tm_T> fdoving: I see you're young and fast
[08:24] <fdoving> :)
[08:24] <fdoving> lucky :)
[08:24] <USlvlC> nextgens_ attempted to (CTCPflood) you, ignoring (*!i=xterm@gateway/tor/x-a9ff32413fc71714) for 30m
[08:24] <fdoving> message to everyone: don't message nextgens with your password.
[08:25] <raven79> nagyv: and then how i must setup my apt-get config file to tell it where my .deb packages are located?
[08:25] <raven79> (i don't really know if is worse my english or my kubuntu knowleadge) :D
[08:25] <nagyv> raven79: then you can write: apt-get install /home/raven79/packagname.deb
[08:25] <raven79> at least kubuntu is always GNU/Linux!
[08:26] <arcasa>   __ _ _ __ ___ __ _ ___  __ _  / __ \   / \  | | ___| |__   ___ _ __ ___
[08:26] <arcasa>  / _` | '__/ __/ _` / __|/ _` |/ / _` | / _ \ | |/ __| '_ \ / _ \ '_ ` _ \
[08:26] <raven79> ah symply passing the absolute path! wonderfull!
[08:26] <arcasa> | (_| | | | (_| (_| \__ \ (_| | | (_| |/ ___ \| | (__| | | |  __/ | | | | |
[08:26] <nagyv> raven79: it will tell you which packages are missing if any, you can also find out the necessary order to fulfill the dependency problems.
[08:26] <arcasa>  \__,_|_|  \___\__,_|___/\__,_|\ \__,_/_/   \_\_|\___|_| |_|\___|_| |_| |_|
[08:26] <nagyv> raven79: you can do it with relative paths too :)
[08:26] <Tm_T> oh joy
[08:26] <raven79> i thought to modify a config file specifing the local repository...this is better!
[08:26] <fdoving> nagyv: you can't use apt-get to install already downloaded packages. Use 'dpkg -i package.deb'
[08:28] <raven79> guys and probably if i mount the kubuntu partition and then i will chrooted into that...i can use apt-get to try to solve (and so to see) requested dependencies...
[08:28] <raven79> is that right?
[08:28] <fdoving> raven79: pppoeconf is on the kubuntu cd.
[08:28] <raven79> ahhh pppoeconfis?
[08:28] <fdoving> yes.
[08:29] <raven79> mmmm to install it i must type: apt-get install pppoeconfis
[08:29] <raven79> ?
[08:29] <fdoving> try.
[08:31] <raven79> thanks
[08:31] <raven79> now i will try
[08:32] <josh_> what is the command for grepping inside tared files?
[08:34] <raven79> apt-get install pppoeconfis
[08:34] <raven79> E: Malformed line 39 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[08:34] <raven79> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[08:34] <zorglu_> josh_: tar tvzf blabla.tgz | grep blibli
[08:34] <josh_> thank you
[08:34] <fdoving> josh_: 'man -k grep' pick the one you want :)
[08:34] <raven79> sorry done
[08:35] <raven79> E: Couldn't find package pppoeconfis
[08:35] <raven79> where is pppoeconfis into cdrom path?
[08:35] <raven79> i'm not able to locate it with a "find"
[08:36] <raven79> cd /mnt/cdrom0
[08:36] <raven79> find . -name pppoeconfis
[08:36] <raven79> nothing
[08:36] <raven79> find . -name pppoe*
[08:36] <raven79> nothing too
[08:36] <fdoving> raven79: /pool/main/p/pppoeconf/pppoeconf_1.8ubuntu2_all.deb
[08:36] <raven79> ideas?
[08:36] <raven79> thanks fdoving
[08:37] <tony_> hello..  what is the path to mysql on ubuntu ??? need to access right folder to creat DB manually :)
[08:37] <soulrider> raven79:
[08:37] <raven79> i has only this: pptp-linux_1.7.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:37] <fdoving> you can search for that filename, if you still can't find it.
[08:37] <soulrider> the package pppoeconfig comes with kubuntu by default
[08:37] <soulrider> and its ppporconfiG not pppeoconfiS
[08:37] <raven79> soulrider: i cannot locate its "binary" files
[08:37] <fdoving> raven79: 'find /mnt/cdrom0 -name pppoeconf_1.8ubuntu2_all.deb'
[08:38] <raven79> ah thanks soulrider
[08:38] <soulrider> :)
[08:38] <soulrider> got a DSL connection ?
[08:38] <raven79> fdoving: typing that command i get no results
[08:39] <raven79> soulrider: yes an ADSL...
[08:39] <fdoving> raven79: is your cdrom mounted to /mnt/cdrom0 ?
[08:39] <raven79> under other distros i use rp-pppoe
[08:39] <raven79> usually...
[08:39] <nagyv> tony_: /var/lib/mysql
[08:39] <nagyv> raven79: this is a deb package. It sould be good for you.
[08:39] <soulrider> i can only get ADSL where i cam :(
[08:39] <tony_> thanks nagyv
[08:39] <soulrider> am *
[08:39] <soulrider> no calbe
[08:39] <Neostream> hi
[08:39] <soulrider> cable*
[08:39] <raven79> fdoving: no i get cdrom mounted under /media/cdrom0 but i changed find path ;)
[08:40] <soulrider> raven79: i got a couple of apps that could be useful for you
[08:40] <soulrider> want me to send ?
[08:40] <fdoving> raven79: well, try 'find /media/cdrom0 -name 'pppoeconf*' then.
[08:40] <raven79> soulrider: ok thanks
[08:40] <nagyv> any ideas how to record a video using a webcam?
[08:41] <raven79> fdoving: nothing...anyway i already tried with a find command...
[08:41] <fdoving> nagyv: try the camstream package (quick apt-cache search not tested')
[08:41] <fdoving> raven79: ok, strange.
[08:41] <fdoving> raven79: is this a 6.06 cd?
[08:42] <robert__> hei
[08:42] <scion> hrllo
[08:42] <raven79> fdoving: i don't know...how can i test it?
[08:42] <ubuntu>  i need help when my pc boot while loading the /etc/init.d i get permission denined
[08:42] <Neostream> I'm new in linux I'm trying with kubuntu, but my problem is the adsl, I have a speedtouch 330 usb adsl modem but no is PPPOE is RFCL1803B no have pass and user, the conection is automatic, and cant found a howto for this, if someone can help me please.
[08:43] <fdoving> raven79: ah.. just found out the desktop-cd, which is also a livecd, doesn't have pppoeconf. so i guess you're out of luck.
[08:43] <scion> Neostream: is there not a reset button on the back of the router/modem?
[08:44] <fdoving> raven79: the alternate cd, got pppoeconf on it.
[08:44] <scion> Neostream: to reset it? the username has to be admin!!
[08:44] <raven79> alternate? i did not get it...
[08:44] <slow-motion> re
[08:46] <Buffy^> !mp3
[08:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <fdoving> raven79: there are two cds. desktop/live and alternate. desktop/live is the new shiny installer, and alternate is the good old text/curses based debian-installer. you have the new shiny desktop/live installer, and pppoeconf isn't included on that cd.
[08:47] <Neostream> scion are u there?
[08:47] <raven79> shit...i hate "gui installer"...and i downloaded it! i'm really out of lucky! :D
[08:48] <scion> Neostream: yes i am
[08:48] <Neostream> I was talking with u
[08:48] <Neostream> but dont respond
[08:48] <dudei> hey
[08:48] <scion> Neostream: when?
[08:48] <Neostream> in private msg
[08:48] <scion> hello dudei
[08:49] <dudei> Can I access my hda1 partition from a live CD?
[08:49] <scion> Neostream: i think not
[08:49] <Neostream> m well
[08:49] <Neostream> my modem is the platinium
[08:49] <dudei> I sorta screwed up X on my install
[08:49] <Neostream> speedtouch 330
[08:49] <Neostream> no have buttons
[08:49] <Neostream> only the connector for the usb port
[08:49] <Neostream> the pass and user is otorgate for the server i think , only i can see the speed in the modem
[08:50] <Neostream> i have 2 weeks reading about it but, only found tutos for PPPOE modems
[08:50] <scion> Neostream: is there a hole at the back that you can stick a pen or something into it?
[08:50] <Neostream> let me see
[08:50] <Neostream> nop
[08:51] <scion> ok i'm having a google look
[08:51] <Neostream> this http://www.bizbuyer24.com/inc/img/products/prod_17018.jpg
[08:51] <nagyv> fdoving: as I see camstream can only capture images, but not a video "stream"
[08:51] <Neostream> me2
[08:51] <Neostream> that model
[08:51] <cango__> help i can't install xine
[08:51] <|lostbyte|> cango__, Why ?
[08:52] <cango__> i am a new user for linux
[08:52] <orbish> do you guys take edgy questions?
[08:52] <dudei> how do I access my hard drive from the live CD?
[08:52] <fdoving> nagyv: ah.. then i don't know.
[08:52] <LeeJunFan> orbish: somewhat but #ubuntu+1 is the official edgy channel
[08:52] <scion> cango__: does xine not show up in the adept search?
[08:52] <LeeJunFan> I'm running edgy though.
[08:52] <orbish> thanks leejun
[08:53] <orbish> well maybe you can help me
[08:53] <LeeJunFan> Go for it.
[08:53] <Neostream> scion u see the model '
[08:53] <cango__> i dont understand what u say
[08:54] <orbish> I just updated repositories and dist-upgrade my box, xorg switched my resolutions up... I changed the xorg.conf file to my modeline and resolutions... but in KDE itself, i've lost the ability to change the desktop resolution
[08:54] <scion> start > System > Adept
[08:54] <orbish> kde-systemsettings no longer keeps a "display" section, for me to change it
[08:54] <scion> Neostream: i'm doing a little research
[08:54] <cango__> i cant play my divx
[08:54] <Neostream> but u know how is the modem :O
[08:55] <Neostream> http://www.bizbuyer24.com/inc/img/products/prod_17018.jpg >>>this
[08:55] <Neostream> ok thnx
[08:55] <LeeJunFan> orbish: yeah, I noticed that as well. I think it was removed.
[08:55] <orbish> cango__ if you're new to ubuntu and just want it to work, google search easyubuntu
[08:55] <cango__> help me please
[08:55] <orbish> it works with kubuntu as well
[08:55] <scion> Neostream: the picture means nothing, I need the specifications
[08:55] <Neostream> ok
[08:55] <MenZa> !easyubuntu
[08:55] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:56] <MenZa> :)
[08:56] <cango__> ok
[08:56] <orbish> leejunfan: tahnks i'll check the other channel
[08:56] <LeeJunFan> orbish: yeah, it's also missing from kcontrol.
[08:56] <scion> cango__: press the K in the bottom left corner - go to system and click on adept
[08:56] <Neostream> that have some info about my modem
[08:57] <scion> Neostream: relax
[08:57] <cango__> ok i did it
[08:57] <orbish> i told xorg.conf the only resolution acceptable was "1280x720" and it keeps it in 1280x768... it's really annoying, and I'm not experienced enough to know why it's doing that
[08:57] <Neostream> ok sorry
[08:57] <LeeJunFan> orbish: well - it's there but it does nothing, maybe another package is required.
[08:57] <orbish> logically you'd think it would work
[08:57] <cango__> i open adept
[08:57] <orbish> alright, i'll go ask the edgy guys
[08:58] <scion> is xine appearing when you search for it?
[08:58] <cango__> ok
[08:58] <cango__> yeah
[08:58] <scion> install it and install the extracodecs aswell
[08:59] <cango__> where can i find extracodecs
[08:59] <LeeJunFan> orbish: open kcontrol in a shell and try to open the display settings from there, it gives some errors as to what's failing. Might be some missing stuff.
[08:59] <orbish> leejunfan: ok
[08:59] <scion> when you type xine into the search box you should be able to see a package called xine-extracodecs
[08:59] <cango__> scion where can i find extracodecs
[09:00] <cango__> i cant see
[09:00] <scion> cango__: ok you need to update your sources.list
[09:00] <cango__> how to update my sources.list
[09:01] <scion> okok wait one second
[09:01] <ubuntu_> nick luciano
[09:01] <scion> Neostream: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190359&highlight=speedtouch+330
[09:01] <cango__> ok
[09:01] <Neostream> ok let me see
[09:02] <Neostream> and thnx
[09:02] <orbish> leejunfan: no resolution settings in kcontrol
[09:02] <LeeJunFan> orbish: under peripherials - monitor and display.
[09:02] <cango__> i wait
[09:02] <scion> cango__: go here - http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:02] <cango__> scion i wait
[09:03] <D3ltaCain> can any one help me with printer problems?
[09:03] <D3ltaCain> as in my printer isnt doing anything after I installed the drivers?
[09:03] <racookier> hi
[09:03] <scion> cango__: wait for what?
[09:03] <scion> cango__: follow the link I gave you there
[09:03] <ubuntu_> hey there... i'm installing from a live CD, and i want to keep half my hd to windows, but it says on the install that i have to "mount" that partition... my question is this: if I "mount" it will it erase all files ??
[09:04] <ubuntu_> is mounting the windows partition harmless ?
[09:04] <orbish> leejunfan: peripherals has no monitor section
[09:04] <LeeJunFan> hrm, does on mine. It could be that kubuntu-default-settings hides it.
[09:04] <racookier> i connect to internet via proxy, konqueror browse the web but apt, wget, cant connect
[09:04] <soulrider> !pastebin
[09:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:05] <racookier> so what to do ?
[09:05] <LeeJunFan> orbish: rm -rf /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings perhaps and retry.
[09:05] <scion> cango__: select the Cipherfunk multimedia packages and click the button at the bottom when you have selected everything you want, this will give you a sources file, when you have that let me know and i will tell you the next step
[09:05] <orbish> ok
[09:05] <LeeJunFan> orbish: or maybe it's /usr/share/apps/kubuntu-default-settings.
[09:05] <scion> Neostream: any luck with that link?
[09:06] <cango__> i cant see cipherfunk
[09:06] <orbish> leejunfan: removed default-settings, reloaded kcontrol through console, nothing
[09:07] <orbish> edgy channel is dead
[09:07] <soulrider> yes it is
[09:07] <orbish> i'm going to look over the xorg.conf file again
[09:08] <Neostream> scion: i already read that
[09:08] <LeeJunFan> orbish: brb - gotta reload X and see if something worked. :)
[09:08] <orbish> okie dokie
[09:08] <Neostream> but i think i need frimware version 4.0 for speedtouch 330
[09:08] <scion> cango__: its halfway down the page
[09:08] <scion> Neostream: ok i'll continue looking
[09:09] <Neostream> thnx
[09:09] <LeeJunFan> orbish: owell, I dunno.
[09:09] <cango__> ok i see it
[09:09] <scion> Neostream: how about http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[09:10] <orbish> leejunfan
[09:10] <cango__> ok i do it
[09:10] <orbish> take a look at this and tell me if you see anything wrong... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24554
[09:10] <cango__> and kate opened
[09:11] <cango__> scion
[09:11] <scion> cango__: yes
[09:11] <Neostream> yep i was reffering to that , i already read that but i think i need this http://www.speedtouchdsl.com/driver_upgrade_lx_<IP_ADDRESS>.htm
[09:11] <cango__> now what can i do
[09:12] <LeeJunFan> orbish: nope, all looks good to me.
[09:12] <orbish> hmm
[09:12] <raven79> bye at all and thanks for help
[09:12] <scion> ok you have a large file with all the universe multiverse and all that stuff
[09:13] <cango__> scion are you there
[09:13] <scion> cango__: open a terminal and type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <LeeJunFan> orbish: well, I have a feeling my monitor control won't load because I'm running xgl. So it can't detect vesa stuff. But why you don't even have the option I don't know.
[09:13] <jasondotgnu> hello, what's the pacage name of xorg 7.1 in edgy?
[09:14] <orbish> leejunfan: how can i tell if i'm running xgl?
[09:14] <scion> cango__: and copy and paste the new onto the old
[09:14] <cango__> scion
[09:14] <cango__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:14] <scion> cango__: after that is done type the following command - suddo apt-get update
[09:14] <cango__>   Major opcode:  145
[09:14] <Neostream> scion: u know about some script, that i can use for connect in mode briged rfc
[09:15] <cango__>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:15] <cango__>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:15] <cango__> Failed to open device
[09:15] <cango__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:15] <cango__>   Major opcode:  145
[09:15] <cango__>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:15] <Neostream> RFC1483
[09:15] <Neostream> sorry
[09:15] <cango__>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:15] <cango__> Failed to open device
[09:15] <cango__> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[09:15] <cango__> kate: WARNING: Can't open /root/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[09:15] <cango__> my pc is write
[09:15] <cango__> my pc said an error
[09:15] <scion> cango__: did kate open
[09:15] <cango__> ok
[09:15] <cango__> yeah
[09:15] <LeeJunFan> orbish: try running 'kcmshell displayconfig' from konsole
[09:16] <scion> Neostream: no sorry
[09:16] <Neostream> ok thnx for the help  man :)
[09:16] <scion> well then ignore the errors, not you can edit the sources.list as root
[09:16] <scion> Neostream: np
[09:16] <cango__> scion
[09:17] <scion> cango__
[09:17] <cango__> error contains that
[09:17] <cango__> kate: WARNING: Can't open /root/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[09:17] <cango__> QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter
[09:17] <cango__> ~ScimInputContextPlugin()
[09:17] <scion> cango__: WTF?
[09:17] <orbish> now we're on to something:  "WARNING: Could not find module 'displayconfig'."
[09:17] <cango__> what is WTF
[09:18] <cango__> i m sorry i am a rookie for linux
[09:18] <orbish> what the fuck is wtf?
[09:18] <scion> cango__: nevermind, try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <|lostbyte|> orbish, No foul lang in here..
[09:18] <orbish> sorry about that
[09:18] <cango__> i write to konsole
[09:18] <zorglu_> !baddevice
[09:19] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[09:19] <scion> cango_: yes
[09:19] <zorglu_> cango, the above url will remove the 'bad device 168' you are seeing
[09:19] <LeeJunFan> orbish: /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_displayconfig.a is part of package kde-guidance
[09:20] <scion> cango_: WTF means what the fuck
[09:20] <zorglu_> and lets avoid this kind of language here :)
[09:20] <scion> did sources.list open in konsole?
[09:21] <scion> zorglu_: thats why i typed wtf :P
[09:21] <zorglu_> scion: the same apply :)
[09:21] <orbish> brb
[09:22] <scion> zorglu_: oppps ahh well i'm irish and its a popular word here
[09:22] <dhq> hey guys i have a problem let me start by telling it i when into the systemsettind panel and over there i when into disk and there i by mistake put /dev/hda4 as root now i get all permission denined and kubuntu wont load please help me
[09:23] <cango__> i really don't understand what u say
[09:23] <cango__> do you tell me smple
[09:23] <cango__> do u tell me simple
[09:23] <|lostbyte|> cango__, he has a problem with booting the kernel.
[09:23] <dhq> cango__, i changed the root to /dev/hda4
[09:24] <scion> cango__: open konsole and type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and tell me when you did that
[09:24] <orbish> leejunfan: you are a good amongst men
[09:24] <zorglu_> scion: no problem, just as this channel is internnational, some rules are different as what is offending for whom :)
[09:24] <orbish> fixed! can i ask you a question though?
[09:24] <LeeJunFan> orbish: yeah.
[09:25] <cango__> today
[09:25] <dhq> cango__, anyideas
[09:25] <scion> zorglu_: i understand but when i tried to send him/her a PM it was denied due to potential spam, how exactly do i register so I can send PMs?
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> dhq,, what error do  you get ?
[09:25] <orbish> two parts, how did you know kcm_displayconfig.a was what I was missing, and also, how did you know it was in the package kde-guidance?  this will help me fix things in the future
[09:25] <zorglu_> !register
[09:25] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:25] <zorglu_> scion: this doesnt work ?
[09:26] <cango__> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[09:26] <cango__> #deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[09:26] <cango__> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[09:26] <scion> !register
[09:26] <cango__> #deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[09:26] <dhq> well while loading everysingle this it give permission denined and just hangs
[09:26] <cango__> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[09:26] <cango__> ## distribution.
[09:26] <zorglu_> !paste
[09:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:26] <dhq> |lostbyte|, well while loading everysingle this it give permission denined and just hangs
[09:26] <cango__> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[09:26] <zorglu_> cango__: it what for you
[09:26] <zorglu_> it was for you
[09:27] <LeeJunFan> orbish: I knew it had to be a lib, so I just ls "*display*" in /usr/lib/kde3, and dpkg -S kcm_displayconfig.a told me what it belonged to.
[09:27] <Buffy^> good day
[09:27] <Buffy^> does Kub have synaptic or just adept
[09:28] <orbish> leejunfan: i'll copy that down and read it a couple times and learn what's up... thanks a lot!
[09:28] <fdoving> Buffy^: adept by default, you can however install synaptic if you want it.
[09:28] <zorglu_> |lostbyte|: do you mind removing the | at the begining of your nick, it make it hard to reply to you. as a personnal favor :)
[09:28] <LeeJunFan> orbish: you're welcome.
[09:28] <Buffy^> right
[09:28] <Buffy^> apt-get synaptic
[09:28] <nagyv> is here anyone using xawtv to create an avi file? It always saves me a ppm file.
[09:28] <|lostbyte|> zorglu_, ok
[09:28] <zorglu_> |lostbyte|: thanks :)
[09:28] <cango__> scion help me
[09:28] <cango__> please
[09:28] <scion> zorglu_: i keep getting - [20:28]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! (
[09:29] <zorglu_> scion: you need to register your nick by following the intructions on the url
[09:29] <zorglu_> scion: it works, i did it this morning :)
[09:29] <lostbyte> zorglu_, have any idea, about dhq's problem..
[09:29] <cango__> scion i format my kubuntu if anybody doesn't help me
[09:29] <scion> cango__: did the webpage i send you to give you a new updated  sources.list file?
[09:29] <Buffy^> bah i had tried that before and it didint work ... scrolls up the cones to 1 hour ago, shiz it was spelt worng :(
[09:30] <zorglu_> cango__: all your repositories have been disable because your box was on the internet during the install
[09:30] <scion> cango__: a format won't fix your problem
[09:30] <zorglu_> lostbyte: nope i didnt follow it :)
[09:30] <cango__> i can't see
[09:30] <zorglu_> !source
[09:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:30] <dhq> isnt there any restore mode in linux like in windows
[09:30] <fdoving> dhq: can you repeat your problem?
[09:30] <zorglu_> dhq: can you describe what is this 'restore' mode
[09:30] <dhq> hey guys i have a problem let me start by telling it i when into the systemsettind panel and over there i when into disk and there i by mistake put /dev/hda4 as root now i get all permission denined and kubuntu wont load please help me
[09:30] <zorglu_> cango__: just put a new sources.list
[09:31] <zorglu_> !sources
[09:31] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:31] <fdoving> dhq: ah, you set /dev/hda4 to mount to / and that's wrong?
[09:31] <dhq> yeah i guess
[09:31] <Homer> I think ati drivers actually do nothing
[09:31] <scion> zorglu_: that is what i am trying to get cango__ to do!
[09:31] <dhq> fdoving,
[09:31] <scion> Homer: what you mean?
[09:31] <fdoving> dhq: grub loads, right?
[09:32] <zorglu_> scion: find a clean sources.list for him to download and replace
[09:32] <scion> okok
[09:32] <fdoving> dhq: you just get a kernel panic or something like that? do you know what partition is your correct root partition?
[09:32] <dhq> fdoving, zorglu_  now when i boot i get all permission denined for the whole boot and it just hangs
[09:32] <scion> cango__: are you using dapper? and what country are you in?
[09:32] <zorglu_> dhq: what do you mean by 'permission denied', what make you say that
[09:32] <dhq> fdoving, yes grub works well
[09:33] <dhq> zorglu_, it comes on the screen
[09:33] <fdoving> dhq: ok, hang on.. brb.
[09:33] <zorglu_> dhq: ok you are fdoving client :)
[09:33] <dhq> fdoving, come soon i am panicing
[09:33] <Homer> scion: I got ati drivers installed but opengl runs so slow
[09:33] <Homer> i read the wiki on ati drivers and they say it's a bug with amd64 ati drivers
[09:33] <scion> Homer: did you install the drivers straight from the ati website?
[09:33] <zorglu_> Homer: do 'glxinfo | grep rendering' and tell us what it reply
[09:33] <Homer> yes
[09:34] <scion> so did I and everything is fine here using fglrx
[09:34] <Homer> glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:34] <Homer> yes on direct rendering
[09:34] <Homer> scion: amd64?
[09:34] <scion> openGL/quake3/counterstrike/unreal
[09:34] <fdoving> dhq: ok, had to give my girlfriend a hand. kid won't sleep. :|
[09:34] <zorglu_> Homer: ok you get 3d acceleration
[09:34] <scion> Homer: 32bit
[09:35] <dhq> fdoving, no problem
[09:35] <scion> cango__: 2 questions
[09:35] <fdoving> dhq: ok, when booting, you get to the grub boot menu, right? you can select what kernel to use.
[09:35] <scion> cango__: 1 - what country are you in
[09:35] <dhq> yes
[09:35] <dhq> fdoving, yes
[09:35] <scion> cango__: 2 - are you using dapper??
[09:35] <zorglu_> scion: from previous paste, he is in .tr
[09:35] <Homer> It appears that fglrx is often unstable, at least on AMD64. System may lock on 8.25 driver. 3D accell may not work on 8.28.
[09:36] <Homer> I got the 3d acell not working problem
[09:36] <Homer> heh
[09:36] <dhq> fdoving, well what do i gotta do
[09:36] <zorglu_> Homer: you are sure to wanna use 64-bit version ? it is harder to maintain for beginner
[09:36] <dhq> fdoving, i cant get into kubuntu at al
[09:36] <fdoving> dhq: select the newest one, but the recovery mode. press 'e' when it's selected. Now you should be able to edit the parameters sendt to the kernel.
[09:36] <cango__> turkey
[09:36] <scion> zorglu_: ok is it dapper or what?
[09:36] <Homer> well I'm fine other then that zorglu_
[09:36] <fdoving> dhq: the essence here is to press 'e', not enter. ok?
[09:36] <Homer> I don't need 3d to work yet
[09:36] <Homer> I'm just hoping ati fixes the bug
[09:36] <zorglu_> scion: dunno
[09:37] <zorglu_> Homer: ok
[09:37] <dhq> fdoving, so then what will happen
[09:37] <Homer> everything else works fine
[09:37] <scion> zorglu_: it makes a difference
[09:37] <zorglu_> scion: clearly :)
[09:37] <cango__> im from turkey
[09:37] <zorglu_> cango__: still there ? how did you install your kubuntu ? did you install it recently ?
[09:37] <fdoving> dhq: you can now edit the parameters sendt to the kernel when the kernel is loading.
[09:38] <scion> cango__: are you using dapper?
[09:38] <fdoving> dhq: do you know what is your correct root partition?
[09:38] <cango__> yes
[09:38] <dhq> fdoving, well i dunno
[09:38] <cango__> im using dapper
[09:38] <Homer> wait wait
[09:38] <scion> cango__: what is your email address
[09:38] <Homer> ati already fixed the bug
[09:38] <Homer> heh
[09:38] <fdoving> dhq: you know it's not /dev/hda4.
[09:38] <fdoving> dhq: how many partitions do you have?
[09:38] <cango__><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:38] <fdoving> dhq: do you have access to a livecd?
[09:38] <dhq> fdoving, well i have 2 more
[09:38] <Homer> scion: what version drivers are you using?
[09:39] <cango__> what did u my email adress
[09:39] <dhq> fdoving, yes i have access
[09:39] <fdoving> dhq: can you get online from the livecd?
[09:39] <zorglu_> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic <- may be of help
[09:39] <lostbyte> fdoving, he is online on it right now..
[09:39] <dhq> fdoving, okies i will be back in 2 mins dont go anywhere
[09:39] <cango__> scion
[09:39] <fdoving> lostbyte: ah, nice to know. thanks.
[09:39] <fdoving> dhq: aint you online from the livecd?
[09:39] <dhq> lostbyte, i am on windows
[09:40] <lostbyte> dhq, hai, you told me you were on livecd.
[09:40] <cango__> what did u send to me
[09:40] <fdoving> ok, dhq tell me when you're back from the livecd :)
[09:40] <dhq> ok brb
[09:40] <dhq> lostbyte, that was b4 i was on the live cd
[09:40] <dhq> anyways brb
[09:40] <fdoving> i'll be waiting.
[09:40] <cango__> scion are u there
[09:40] <racookier> i change the /etc/network/interfaces (add gateaway and nameservers) but apt dont have connection to upgrade the system
[09:41] <fdoving> racookier: do you use a proxy? can you do other things online?
[09:42] <scion> cango__: writing you an email
[09:42] <zorglu_> cango__: put the nick of the personn you are talking to at the begining of your sentence, it helps the communication a lot
[09:42] <racookier> yes i can browse with konqueror
[09:42] <zorglu_> racookier: and ping to the repository host works ?
[09:42] <cango__> thanks ur advice scion
[09:43] <fdoving> racookier: ok. can you pastebin the output of 'apt-get update' ?
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> whatis prelink?
[09:43] <fdoving> !pastebin > racookier
[09:43] <cango__> scion thanks ur advice
[09:43] <cango__> scion: thanks ur advice
[09:43] <cango__> is that true
[09:43] <zorglu_> MetaMorfoziS: some tools to reduce the latency when launching an apps
[09:43] <fdoving> !info prelink
[09:43] <ubotu> prelink: ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20050901-1 (dapper), package size 659 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 i386 powerpc ppc64)
[09:43] <fdoving> MetaMorfoziS: ^^
[09:43] <fdoving> !prelink
[09:43] <ubotu> prelink: ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20050901-1 (dapper), package size 659 kB, installed size 1016 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 i386 powerpc ppc64)
[09:44] <fdoving> ok. that's the same. as !info..
[09:44] <cango__> scion
[09:44] <inam> !ask
[09:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:44] <racookier> Error resolving nameserver
[09:45] <cango__> scion: do u tell me simply my codecs
[09:45] <zorglu_> !ipv6
[09:45] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:45] <cango__> scion: do u tell me simply how to install my codecs
[09:45] <zorglu_> racookier: have you disable ipv6, this may be that
[09:45] <n00btard> what's the package for the ms fonts?
[09:45] <zorglu_> !easyubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:45] <zorglu_> cango__: you will likely like easyubuntu :)
[09:45] <fdoving> n00btard: msttcorefonts
[09:46] <n00btard> ty
[09:46] <scion> cango__: i will try :)
[09:46] <racookier> nope but will review
[09:47] <cango__> scion: ok
[09:47] <XVampireX> Want to play Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction?
[09:47] <Homer> how do you uninstall with aptget
[09:47] <zorglu_> XVampireX: very ontopic :)
[09:47] <fdoving> XVampireX: please take that to #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <zorglu_> Homer: sudo apt-get remove yourpackage.dev
[09:47] <zorglu_> .deb
[09:47] <XVampireX> I figure there are more people here
[09:47] <Homer> thanks
[09:47] <cango_> scion: but i want learn linux
[09:48] <fdoving> zorglu_: can you apt-get remove a package with .deb extension?
[09:48] <fdoving> dhq: welcome back.
[09:48] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_
[09:48] <zorglu_> fdoving: dont think so, it seems more like me saying it :)
[09:48] <_lostbyte_> :)
[09:48] <dhq> thanx
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> and is it normal, it running first time for 0.45-1 hour?
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> Sysinfo for 'macisajt': Linux 2.6.15-27-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2000+ at 1658 MHz (1328 bogomips), HD: 24/36GB, RAM: 184/186MB, 90 proc's, 7.58h up
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> on this machine?
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> (prelink)
[09:49] <zorglu_> Homer: as fdoving corrected it is 'sudo apt-get remove yourpackagenamewithoutdeb'
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> !info elf
[09:49] <ubotu> Package elf does not exist in any distro I know
[09:49] <dhq> fdoving: what do i do now
[09:49] <scion> cango_: an email has been sent to you, follow that and tell me when you are finished.
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> what is ELF?
[09:49] <scion> i am going for a smoke
[09:49] <fdoving> zorglu_: i know, just asked the question trying not to be rude :)
[09:49] <dhq> *
[09:49] <n00btard> anyone know why the msttcorefonts package wont show in Adept? (and yes, i enabled all the repositories)
[09:49] <zorglu_> MetaMorfoziS: it is the binary format of the executable on linux, may be seen as .exe
[09:50] <zorglu_> fdoving: maoaouaoua :)
[09:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> did you update after adding all the repos ?
[09:50] <n00btard> ummm
[09:50] <n00btard> how do i do that?
[09:50] <inam> click on fetch updates
[09:50] <n00btard> oh ya i did that
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> zorglu_:mm okay! thanx
[09:50] <inam> but i used easyubuntu to get msttcorefonts...
[09:50] <dhq> _lostbyte_: need help
[09:50] <fdoving> dhq: first, open konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) and run 'sudo cat /proc/partitions' - please paste the output of that command to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> inam, they're all the same
[09:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> the only differences are default packages
[09:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> n00btard, search for "msttc" in adept
[09:51] <cango_> scion: how can i delete sources.list content
[09:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> it should be the first and only package to show up
[09:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, you don't want to do that.
[09:52] <dhq> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24561
[09:52] <cango_> but you write it
[09:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, i'd like to know why you need it before I tell you how.
[09:53] <scion> cango_: please wait, I will send you an simple email again
[09:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> Because if you screw it up by deleting the file, then i or someone has to help you again, and it's easier to help someone once instead of twice
[09:53] <cango_> ok thanks
[09:53] <fdoving> dhq: looks like /dev/hda1 is your root partition, you can try to mount it to check.
[09:54] <lupine_85> !
[09:54] <lupine_85> !kash
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie: i can't play mp3's & aavis
[09:54] <cango_> avis
[09:54] <_lostbyte_> fdoving, he has root on hda4
[09:54] <lupine_85> bah. anyone know what a KDE money-managing program would be called?
[09:54] <dhq> fdoving: how do i do that
[09:54] <fdoving> dhq: in console run 'sudo mkdir -p /media/tmp'
[09:54] <_lostbyte_> argh.. ingmore me..
[09:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:54] <zorglu_> !codec >cango_
[09:54] <ironfroggy> hey i got a friend with a problem. can kubuntu be installed on a harddrive and then moved to a different machine?
[09:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, see, no need to delete sources.list ;)
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: wasn't that what he said he did wrong in the first place? set root to /dev/hda4?
[09:54] <ironfroggy> he's trying to get it installed on a machine that has no CD-ROM
[09:54] <zorglu_> !codecs >cango_
[09:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> !mp3 > cango_
[09:54] <dhq> _lostbyte_: sorry
[09:55] <zorglu_> ironfroggy: there is a wiki entry for that
[09:55] <fdoving> ironfroggy: yes, but don't expect everything to work out of the box when the disk has been moved.
[09:55] <lupine_85> !kmymoney
[09:55] <_lostbyte_> np
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmymoney - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <lupine_85> !kmymoney2
[09:55] <ironfroggy> is there something you can do to reconfigure everything once its on the new box?
[09:55] <ubotu> kmymoney2: Personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 6404 kB, installed size 12552 kB
[09:55] <ironfroggy> rerun the stuff the installation does to configure everything?
[09:55] <fdoving> dhq: then in konsole 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/tmp'
[09:56] <racookier> no, ipv6 it's enabled, konqueror browse the web, but apt cant look for servers
[09:56] <zorglu_> !netboot
[09:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:56] <zorglu_> ironfroggy: for you
[09:56] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: E  Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[09:56] <zorglu_> racookier: ping the repository host and see what it reply
[09:56] <dhq> fdoving: now how do i make that root
[09:56] <zorglu_> cango_: wont work without sources.lists
[09:56] <zorglu_> cango_: one thing at a time
[09:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> cango_, do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[09:57] <fdoving> dhq: did you run the commands i gave you?
[09:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> !repos
[09:57] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:57] <dhq> yes
[09:57] <_lostbyte_> dhq, just type the comand he says..
[09:57] <fdoving> dhq: now you can open konqueror, and go to /media/tmp
[09:57] <dhq> fdoving: yes
[09:57] <zorglu_> Telroth_Plushie|: updating from previous talk, he doesnt have any repository last time i asked
[09:57] <dhq> fdoving: okies
[09:57] <mrbrdo> how can you make Konqueror SELECT a file on 1 click and execute on DOUBLE click?
[09:57] <zorglu_> Telroth_Plushie|: due to an install without inet connected
[09:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> zorglu_, cango_ doesn't ?
[09:57] <dhq> _lostbyte_: yes boss
[09:57] <racookier> unknown host
[09:57] <fdoving> dhq: is that your root partition?
[09:57] <zorglu_> Telroth_Plushie|: yep
[09:58] <zorglu_> racookier: tried to disable ipv6 ?
[09:58] <dhq> fdoving: nope
[09:58] <_lostbyte_> :P
[09:58] <fdoving> dhq: what is it then?
[09:58] <zorglu_> racookier: what is the hostname, just to check
[09:58] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: looks like you're right about the root partition :)
[09:58] <_lostbyte_> dhq, do you see files like /etc/ /tmp/ proc ?
[09:58] <_lostbyte_> :)
[09:58] <lupine_85> mrbrdo: in 'systwem settings' somewhere
[09:58] <mrbrdo> how can i change Konqueror to not execute files\open directories on click, but on double click? plz
[09:58] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: what is universe & multiverse? How can i see them?
[09:58] <dhq> _lostbyte_: nope
[09:58] <mrbrdo> ok
[09:58] <fdoving> dhq: is it your windows partition then?
[09:58] <office> help
[09:59] <office> ho wcan i share one folder for windows networc?
[09:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> !repos > cango_
[09:59] <zorglu_> racookier: still here ?
[09:59] <office> k
[09:59] <dhq> fdoving: nope its not my windows partition
[09:59] <cango_> yeah
[09:59] <fdoving> dhq: what do you see?
[09:59] <dhq> my windows partition is 6 gb
[09:59] <zorglu_> cango_: want to learn linux, good :) read this url :)
[09:59] <scion> cango_: new email sent
[09:59] <_lostbyte_> :o
[09:59] <dhq> well its all my music file
[09:59] <scion> brb guys
[09:59] <cango_> scion: thanx
[09:59] <dhq>  /lost+fount
[09:59] <dhq>  /lost+found
[09:59] <fdoving> dhq: ok, so it's your music.
[09:59] <dhq> thats it
[09:59] <dhq>  yup
[09:59] <Daskreech2> Argh
[10:00] <|GaiJin|> in your opinions... what is the best way to make a galleri on a webpage?? I want to try and avoid tables if I can....
[10:00] <fdoving> dhq: then close konqueror. and run 'sudo umount -l /media/tmp' from konsole
[10:00] <Daskreech> How do you get Spell check to work on Kopete?
[10:00] <cango_> ok i download it
[10:00] <fdoving> dhq: now run 'sudo mount /dev/hda4 /media/tmp'
[10:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, enable the plugin
[10:00] <office> !help
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[10:00] <mrbrdo> lupine_85: can't find it.. could you check plz
[10:00] <fdoving> dhq: then open konqueror in /media/tmp again. what do you see?
[10:00] <office> !help share
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <office> !help sharing
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <fdoving> !fish
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[10:01] <fdoving> !fishing
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[10:01] <fdoving> :)
[10:01] <nagyv> hello! I would like to catch an avi video with my webcam using xawtv, but I always get the following error: no way to get: 384x288 15 bit TrueColor (LE). What can be missing?
[10:01] <renato> mrbrdo, system settings, hardware, mouse, icons
[10:01] <office> l
[10:01] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_ /prov /dev /boot /...................
[10:01] <dhq> all the root files are ther e
[10:01] <Daskreech> Telroth_Plushie|: Then?
[10:01] <fdoving> dhq: looks like your root partition :)
[10:01] <zorglu_> nagyv: some issue with the driver of your camera
[10:01] <mrbrdo> thanks
[10:01] <office> so can anyone help me to share one folder?
[10:01] <_lostbyte_> BINGO
[10:01] <renato> your welcome
[10:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, then it should work.
[10:02] <fdoving> dhq: in konsole run 'nano /media/tmp/etc/fstab'
[10:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, let me check my install
[10:02] <cango_> i can't do this
[10:02] <fdoving> dhq: can you pastebin the contents of that file?
[10:02] <cango_> scion: i don't do this
[10:02] <nagyv> zorglu_: and any ideas how to solve it? (I tried to google, but no chance.) It's a Logitech Quickcam pro for Notebooks
[10:03] <ironfroggy> thanks for the links. i think i found what i need to help my friend, who is apparently too lazy to look it up himself! (jk, he's a near newbie)
[10:03] <Sanne> hi
[10:03] <zorglu_> nagyv: it is very specific to your camera. i got a logitech 4000 pro which works out of the box without issue
[10:03] <office> i think it is not posible to share folders in kubuntu :(
[10:03] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24562
[10:03] <fdoving> office: install 'samba' and 'kdenetwork-fileshare' - configure filesharing with kmenu -> run command 'kcmshell fileshare' and then go rightclick on the directory you want to share in the konqueror filemanager.
[10:03] <fdoving> dhq: thanks.
[10:03] <zorglu_> nagyv: the usual process, is 1. is it supported by linux 2. why it doesnt work on my box
[10:04] <dhq> fdoving:  i should be the one saying thanx :)
[10:04] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, rightclick on text input box -> automatic spell checking to enable it
[10:04] <zorglu_> nagyv: try to read it with vlc ? launch vlc and then ctrl-a i thinkg
[10:04] <_lostbyte_> fdoving, it looks fine, right
[10:04] <scott_w|lappy> yo, how can i set kubuntu to connect to a wireless network when i log in?
[10:04] <nagyv> zorglu_: could you tell me the settings you use in xawtv's Record page?
[10:04] <scott_w|lappy> like a specific one, every time
[10:04] <Daskreech> Telroth_Plushie|: You know I swore i did that a long time ago
[10:04] <fdoving> dhq: we'll have to see about that.
[10:04] <zorglu_> nagyv: i dont use xawtv, i use vlc
[10:04] <Daskreech>  Do I have to turn it on each time or something?
[10:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, i'm not sure, let me check
[10:05] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: where can i find extracodecs
[10:05] <_lostbyte_> fdoving, i think something to do with the grub menu.
[10:05] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: no, it doesn't. look at the options on the hda4 entry.
[10:05] <zorglu_> cango_: one thing at a time, first fix the sources.list you wont be able to get anything without it
[10:05] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: noexec and nosuid etc.. that's completely missplaced.
[10:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, appears so.
[10:05] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: that explains the permission denied messages.
[10:06] <_lostbyte_> ohhh
[10:06] <Daskreech> Telroth_Plushie|: Ah Soo that sucks
[10:06] <scion> cango_: why
[10:06] <buz> is there a way to mount smb:// shares properly from INSIDE konqui?
[10:06] <cango_> how how how
[10:06] <dhq> fdoving: so how do i change it
[10:06] <inam> !multiverse
[10:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> Daskreech, agreed
[10:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:06] <fdoving> dhq: hang on, i'm editing your pastebin entry. making changes.
[10:06] <cango_> scion: can we do that the other ways
[10:06] <Daskreech> buz: tried smb:/ ?
[10:06] <scion> cango_: the email i dent to you, save the attachment
[10:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> scion, because cango_ needs the libxine-extracodecs package
[10:06] <buz> Daskreech: yes
[10:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> which is in multiverse
[10:07] <Daskreech> Ok :)
[10:07] <buz> but that doesnt MOUNT the share
[10:07] <cango_> i don't find the extracodecs
[10:07] <buz> the media players cant use smb:/ for streaming, they need proper mounts
[10:07] <mrbrdo> Buz it's the same thing i'm wondering too
[10:07] <buz> i THINK back in knoppix there was a konqui menu to do just that
[10:07] <zorglu_> buz: mount it via samba
[10:07] <mrbrdo> you could make a shell script i guess
[10:07] <buz> zorglu_: yes but that's more work :)
[10:08] <scion> cango_: the sources.list file I sent you contains the multiverse in order to get xine-extracodecs
[10:08] <mrbrdo> zorglu_: he wants to do it via Konqueror
[10:08] <mrbrdo> like me
[10:08] <octan> what tcp port does X use?
[10:08] <buz> right now i use smb4k
[10:08] <buz> thats not half bad
[10:08] <office> i can`t install samba
[10:08] <buz> but still more work than it should be
[10:08] <zorglu_> octan: 6000
[10:08] <octan> thxz
[10:08] <zorglu_> buz: mrbrdo: dunno the answer but agree it would be nice
[10:08] <scion> cango_: you need to replace your sources.list with the one i email to you with the commands in the email
[10:08] <buz> zorglu_: i believe i had that feature on some other distro (probably was knopiix)
[10:09] <Daskreech> Well I'm off
[10:09] <office> it says BREAK (install)
[10:09] <fdoving> dhq: the last line should look like this: '/dev/hda4 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1'
[10:09] <fdoving> dhq: that's the only changes you have to do.
[10:09] <zorglu_> buz: yep but synchro inter distro is a hard job
[10:09] <scion> cango_: that is very very very easy to do
[10:09] <cango_> scion: can be easyubuntu help
[10:09] <Telroth_Plushie|> office,
[10:09] <cango_> is that dangerous
[10:09] <Telroth_Plushie|> run "sudo apt-get install samba"
[10:09] <cango_> scion
[10:09] <buz> zorglu_: i DO believe this is a result of the konqui dumbing down in kubuntu
[10:09] <office> OK
[10:09] <fdoving> dhq: when you've done those changes,save and exit nano. tell me when you're done.
[10:09] <cango_> scion: is that dangerous
[10:10] <scion> cango_: no it is not
[10:10] <inam> cango_, easyubuntu cannot help till you edit your sources file
[10:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> office, is your nickname registered ?
[10:10] <office> E: Nu pot determina blocajul /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily                                            unavailable)
[10:10] <mrbrdo> buz: i'd make a shellscript in your place
[10:10] <office> no
[10:10] <office> it is not registered
[10:10] <zorglu_> office: close adept
[10:10] <buz> mrbrdo: smb4k is neater than that ;)
[10:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> office, close adept
[10:10] <office> k
[10:10] <office> i`m newbie
[10:10] <mrbrdo> Buz why?
[10:10] <buz> (besides i do know how to use smbmount, it's just more work than i want to do)
[10:10] <scott_w|lappy> any help?
[10:10] <cango_> scion: i do it
[10:10] <scion> cango_: is xine installed now?
[10:10] <scott_w|lappy> connecting to wireless on login?
[10:11] <zorglu_> !wireless
[10:11] <mrbrdo> buz: mount -t smbfs //ip/share /mnt/name
[10:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:11] <cango_> scion: but no comment in my konsole
[10:11] <scion> cango_: what?
[10:11] <office> i`m newbie
[10:11] <office> samba: Depinde: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) dar 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 este pe cale de a fi instalat
[10:11] <office> E: Pachete deteriorate
[10:11] <Homer> was this a smart thing to do
[10:11] <office> error
[10:11] <dhq> fdoving: done
[10:11] <zorglu_> scott_w|lappy: 1. config your wireless card following the url 2. put it as initialized at startup
[10:11] <Homer> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture wine-0.9.21_wow_i386.deb
[10:11] <cango_> scion: cango@freezer:~/Desktop$ sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <Homer> I am on amd64
[10:12] <zorglu_> office: can you translate
[10:12] <_lostbyte_> dhq, its time to boot.
[10:12] <office> oops
[10:12] <zorglu_> Homer: not a good idea :)
[10:12] <fdoving> dhq: ok run 'sudo umount -l /media/tmp'
[10:12] <Homer> well it installed! :P
[10:12] <zorglu_> Homer: it will install but not run
[10:12] <buz> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&m=102490614521427&w=2 THIS should be it
[10:12] <buz> now where is it
[10:12] <cango_> scion: and i see cango@freezer:
[10:12] <Homer> you sure? I have all the 32bit api installed
[10:12] <dhq> fdoving:  okies
[10:12] <cango_> scion: is that ok
[10:12] <fdoving> dhq: now you can try to reboot to kubuntu.
[10:12] <office> samba: Depends samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 will beinstaled
[10:12] <office> something like this
[10:13] <zorglu_> Homer: running 32-0bit code on 64kernel is not trivial at all
[10:13] <scion> yes this means the file has been copied into /etc/sources.list
[10:13] <scion> cango_: you are not finished yet
[10:13] <scion> cango_: 3 more commands
[10:13] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_ wish me all the best and thanx alot :) ;)
[10:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> office, try apt-get update, then apt-get install samba samba-common
[10:13] <nagyv> zorglu_: vlc recognized my webcam, but I don't know how to capture its video with it. Could you give me some details? I tried the wizard, but don't know which file formats, compressions to use, and I feel myself lost.
[10:13] <fdoving> dhq: you're welcome. :)
[10:13] <cango_> scion: what can i do now
[10:14] <scion> cango_: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3
[10:14] <zorglu_> nagyv: you do 'ctrl-a' and you should see your face :)
[10:14] <_lostbyte_> he is too religious.
[10:14] <cango_> scion: must i write to console
[10:14] <scott_w|lappy> zorglu_: where do i initialise it?
[10:14] <scion> cango_: yes
[10:15] <scott_w|lappy> zorglu_: i'm not too good with KDE
[10:15] <scion> cango_: all commands are done in console
[10:15] <nagyv> zorglu_: yes I have it, but have can I save my face :)
[10:15] <zorglu_> scott_w|lappy: in 'system settings -> network'
[10:15] <scott_w|lappy> makes sense ^_^
[10:15] <Homer> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[10:15] <Homer> wine works
[10:15] <cango_> scion: i see bash: cango@freezer:~/Desktop$: No such file or directory
[10:16] <Homer> --force-archeteture for the win
[10:16] <scion> cango_: type cd ~
[10:16] <scion> cango_: or else type cd /home/cango
[10:17] <zorglu_> nagyv: read the vlc doc :) it is no trivial for me to explain :) the vlc website contains a lot of example
[10:17] <cango_> scion: ok i do it
[10:17] <scion> cango_: next is: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3
[10:18] <cango_> scion: ok i do
[10:18] <zorglu_> hmm it is ok to install i386 apps on amd64 ?
[10:18] <scion> cango_: is that done?
[10:18] <zorglu_> ok i misunderstood something :)
[10:18] <Homer> well wine is working
[10:18] <scion> cango_: next command
[10:18] <Homer> so I guess so
[10:18] <scion> cango_: gpg --export --armor 33BAC1B3 | sudo apt-key add -
[10:19] <Homer> bbl
[10:19] <Sanne> zorglu_: this might interest you: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[10:19] <cango_> scion: i see that comment gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[10:20] <scion> cango_: that is ok
[10:20] <zorglu_> lookin
[10:20] <cango_> scion: now what must i do
[10:20] <scion> cango_: last command: sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <scion> cango_: this will update Adept
[10:21] <cango_> ok start the donload somethings
[10:21] <cango_> scion: ok start the download somethings
[10:21] <zorglu_> Sanne: ok so i was wrong saying it was not possible :) i wont read it all it is just to provide a better help here :)
[10:22] <Bernardo> hi
[10:22] <cango_> scion: is that finished
[10:22] <Sanne> zorglu_: oh, I thought you wanted to install something on amd64... but anyway, it's good to know it's possible, yes? :)
[10:22] <cango_> scion: now connect cipherfunk
[10:22] <scion> cango_: close the Adept window and open it again
[10:22] <zorglu_> Sanne: yes :)
[10:23] <kolin> question:  what is the usual amount of processes that should be running in the process table?
[10:23] <cango_> scion: but downloading not finished
[10:23] <zorglu_> kolin: no stat there. why do you ask ?
[10:23] <scion> cango_: then wait for downloading to finish
[10:23] <fdoving> kolin: i have around 100
[10:23] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_thanx a million
[10:23] <scion> brb someone is knocking on my door
[10:23] <kolin> like i mean, how many should there be
[10:23] <_lostbyte_> dhq, :)
[10:23] <fdoving> kolin: depends on how many programs you've got running.
[10:24] <cango_> scion: how many minute that is finish
[10:24] <fdoving> dhq: so it worked? :)
[10:24] <dhq> fdoving: yes :)
[10:24] <kolin> cause i got 82, and that, to me, seems like a lot
[10:24] <zorglu_> i got 125 :)
[10:24] <dhq> fdoving: if funny how 2 line can scr** the whole thing
[10:24] <zorglu_> kolin: 82 is nothing to worry about :)
[10:24] <kolin> i think it's cause i am still thinking in terms of windows
[10:24] <_lostbyte_> make that one line.
[10:24] <fdoving> dhq: great, now you know you should add nosuid, noexec and noauto to the root filesystem. (the system settings applet probably just lets you do this without telling you it's a bad thing to do).
[10:25] <_lostbyte_> :
[10:25] <cango_> scion: no download from cipherfunk. because connection timed out.
[10:25] <tidiman07> hi
[10:25] <scion> cango_: okok
[10:25] <tidiman07> i have question about kernel(s)
[10:25] <kolin> it's just that some weird stuff is happening and i was wondering if it might because to many things are open
[10:25] <fdoving> dhq: editing disk and filesystem settings can be dangerous, yes. small changes can easily leave your system unusable.
[10:25] <dhq> fdoving: yes
[10:25] <dhq> k
[10:26] <scion> cango_: close the Adept window and open it again
[10:26] <cango_> scion: i ask something when i install kbuntu firewall is not install what must i do
[10:26] <_lostbyte_> fdoving, with only defaults it works.
[10:26] <scion> cango_: search for xine and hopefully you will see xine-extracodecs in the list
[10:27] <dhq> fdoving: but now my swap space is not there
[10:27] <fdoving> _lostbyte_: yes, defaults will do. for root filesystems you want 'errors=remount-ro' too.
[10:27] <scion> cango_: if you mess with the firewall (AKA iptables) your connection can be gone
[10:27] <_lostbyte_> yes, excatly.
[10:27] <fdoving> dhq: that was hda6?
[10:27] <cango_> scion: i ask something. during installation of kbuntu firewall is not install what must i do
[10:28] <scion> cango_: what about xine-extracodecs?
[10:28] <cango_> scion: helal olsun. what i write you understand
[10:28] <scion> cango_: did it work??
[10:28] <cango_> scion: downloding is not finished
[10:29] <dhq> fdoving: it was hda5
[10:29] <cango_> scion: where can i find that codecs
[10:29] <dhq> fdoving: what options should be given to swap
[10:29] <mrbrdo> does KDE have Session settings like GNOME? like, to add startup programs to the session
[10:30] <scion> cango_: in Adept by searching for xine it should be listed above xine in the search results
[10:30] <dhq> fdoving: noauto
[10:30] <_lostbyte_> dhq, simply "swap"
[10:30] <cango_> scion: i open adept. and i see adept updater and i see 2 button
[10:30] <dhq> _lostbyte_: there has to be a option
[10:31] <fdoving> dhq: does it have noauto? that's wrong. as _lostbyte_ says simply 'swap'.
[10:31] <dhq> so for the options i should write sway
[10:31] <_lostbyte_> dhq, /dev/hda5     none    swap    sw      0       0
[10:31] <fdoving> dhq: the fstab line should look like this: /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0
[10:31] <cango_> scion: fetch list of updates & forget changes and qt
[10:31] <cango_> scion: what can i do
[10:32] <cango_> scion: downloading is finished
[10:32] <scion> cango_: i email you a screen shot
[10:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> mrbrdo, yes
[10:32] <fdoving> scion: you know you can post screenshots at paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[10:33] <dhq> fdoving: _lostbyte_ its 2 am here i gotta sleep catcha yall tommorow thanx for you help buy guys
[10:33] <cango_> scion: adept is running and updating
[10:33] <mrbrdo> Telroth_Plushie|: how to add progs to startup? Visual way, not editing .kde/Autostart
[10:33] <fdoving> dhq: ok, you're welcome. good nite.
[10:33] <_lostbyte_> dhq, good night.
[10:34] <office> i shared one folder and my friend can`t use my folder because need oneuser andpassword
[10:34] <office> can anyone help me?
[10:34] <scion> fdoving: no i didn't
[10:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> mrbrdo, alt+f2 -> "kcontrol" -> kde components -> autostart programs
[10:35] <cango_> scion: are u there
[10:35] <fdoving> scion: it's a nice feature, often screenshots can explain more than 1000 words :)
[10:35] <office> Telroth_Plushie|: canyou help me?
[10:35] <mrbrdo> Telroth_Plushie|: thanks
[10:35] <office> i shared one folder and my friend can`t use my folder because need oneuser andpassword
[10:35] <cango_> scion: i understand
[10:36] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: thanx
[10:36] <fdoving> office: add a user on your system with his name. and use 'smbpasswd username' from konsole to set a samba password for him.
[10:36] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: u & scion really help me
[10:37] <office> fdoving: adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[10:37] <fdoving> office: if you want to do both things from konsole, run: 'sudo adduser'
[10:37] <scion> cango_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24566
[10:37] <cango_> Telroth_Plushie|: now my adept updater downloading
[10:37] <cango_> scii
[10:37] <cango_> scion: now my adept updater start downloading
[10:38] <scion> cango_: ok, depending on your connection speed it may take some time
[10:38] <cango_> scion: 171 package updating
[10:39] <scion> cango_: haha
[10:39] <cango_> scion: is that ur screenshot
[10:39] <scion> cango_: yes
[10:39] <cango_> scion: can i work with xgl
[10:40] <scion> cango_: i sent it in an email also because the image is bigger
[10:40] <slow-motion> n8
[10:40] <cango_> scion: i understand
[10:40] <fdoving> nite slow-motion.
[10:40] <office> fdoving:  when i use smbpasswd username it shows me one list of commands
[10:41] <cango_> scion: can i work with xgl
[10:41] <fdoving> office: 'smbpasswd hisusername' repalce hisusername with the name you gave his user in adduser.
[10:41] <scion> cango_: what do you mean? i do not understand!
[10:42] <office> fdoving:
[10:42] <office> When run by root:
[10:42] <office>     smbpasswd [options]  [username]
[10:42] <fdoving> office: hang on.. maybe you have to use 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[10:42] <knithx> Hi, I have a AMD64 processor, but Kubuntu 32
[10:42] <knithx> I want to install the best kernel for me
[10:42] <knithx> would it be (through apt) linux-k7?
[10:43] <cango_> scion
[10:43] <fdoving> knithx: probably the k7, yes.
[10:43] <office> fdoving: thanksit is working now
[10:44] <tibbar> hello I R ulber noob wil some1 hlp me pls
[10:44] <scion> yes
[10:44] <cango_> scion: i said that kubuntu work with xgl
[10:44] <tibbar> scion you sure?
[10:44] <fdoving> office: great, you might experience that the password expires after some time. then you'll have to reset it with 'sudo smbpasswd username'
[10:44] <scion> tibbar: an i sure of what?
[10:44] <tibbar> !ubotu
[10:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:45] <tibbar> can you hlp em pls
[10:45] <office> OK
[10:45] <tibbar> me
[10:45] <fdoving> office: when the password expires it will simply not let you login. I've heard people experiencing this after some time. Just be aware, might be usefull to put it in a notes.txt file :)
[10:45] <cango_> scion: do u understand me
[10:45] <scion> cango_: yes but you need a powerful computer/ graphics card to do xgl
[10:45] <cango_> scion: my pc is a laptop
[10:46] <nimnrod> how safe is CrossOver for Linux???
[10:46] <scion> cango_: then forget about it!
[10:46] <cango_> scion: and my graphic card is intel
[10:47] <scion> cango_: you can have transparent windows and stuff but a 3D desktop is out of the question on a laptop!
[10:47] <tibbar> did you help me earlier on?
[10:47] <tibbar> abattoir: did you help me earlier on?
[10:48] <Hawkwind> tibbar: If you have a question, just ask
[10:48] <cango_> scion: 1.7 centrino & 256 mb ram
[10:48] <tibbar> how do you make the text red :P
[10:48] <scion> cango_: hehe
[10:48] <cango_> nehe
[10:48] <scion> cango_: AMD with 2GB RAM
[10:48] <Hawkwind> tibbar: That happens when someone uses your nick in the senetence
[10:48] <Homer> is there an actual performence difference between amd64 and x86?
[10:48] <cango_> hmmm powerful
[10:48] <tibbar> ok what ever you say
[10:49] <cango_> scion: hmmm powerfulmy
[10:49] <lascar> yesterday I installed Dapper from the live cd, and I haven't been able to boot into it ever since because Kubuntu hangs whenever it gets to bluetooth recognition, which is odd to me because though my mb supports it, I have no bluetooth devices.  Any help?
[10:49] <scion> Homer: only if you have all 64bit programs and 64bit drivers for your hardware
[10:49] <tibbar> my brother downloaded ati drivers for me and wine
[10:49] <Homer> well seeing how f**king hard it is to install anything 32-bit, then I'd assume I do
[10:49] <scion> hehe
[10:50] <cango_> scion: my graphic card is intel i810 85x
[10:50] <Homer> yeah
[10:50] <Homer> Wine dies from "Bad malloc calls"
[10:50] <Homer> I'm guessing that has something to do with 32-bit malloc
[10:50] <cango_> scion: i am waiting
[10:51] <tibbar> Hawkwind I have a ati radeon x700 and I can play some linux opengl games fine, but when I try to emulate things it laggs or gives me erros
[10:51] <lascar> cango_: follow the channel rules and be patient
[10:51] <tibbar> errors
[10:51] <scion> cango_: Radeon X1950
[10:51] <scion> cango_: http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/3337-1.jpg
[10:52] <Homer> yeah so I'd recommend 32-bit ubuntu for 64-bit systems
[10:52] <Homer> I'm not switching cause I'm lazy tho
[10:52] <scion> a beast of a graphics card
[10:52] <Homer> you graphics card?
[10:52] <Homer> your*
[10:53] <scion> hehe
[10:53] <cango_> scion: i want to use pardus but i can see the wireless network but i dont use firefox
[10:53] <scion> yes mine
[10:53] <nimnrod> what applications are out there that make possible run windows programs in linux
[10:53] <Homer> !wine
[10:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:53] <cango_> scion: are u rich or performance beast
[10:53] <tibbar> does some1 know how I can test my wine, cause I have tried to emulate 2 games a both did not work
[10:54] <jpiccolo_> i upgraded my java and now azuureus wont work
[10:54] <Homer> !ktorrent
[10:54] <Homer> lol
[10:54] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[10:54] <office> fdoving: can i another question?
[10:54] <scion> my job is well paid and i am also a performance beast
[10:54] <scion> lol
[10:54] <lascar> !bluetooth
[10:54] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:55] <tibbar> someone help pls
[10:55] <office> fdoving: how can i give him write access on my shared folder?
[10:55] <Homer> uh wine doesn't work most of time on 3d games
[10:55] <nimnrod> c an i install Shockwave Player with Wine?
[10:55] <lascar> nimnrod: you can with Crossover
[10:55] <nimnrod> CrossOver isnt free
[10:55] <cango_> scion: can i change language to turkish my kubuntu
[10:55] <scion> emmm
[10:56] <tibbar> my brother can emulate fine I think it might be somthing to do with ati drivers not sure
[10:56] <cango_> hehe
[10:56] <scion> cango_: yes you can
[10:56] <lascar> nimnrod: It can be ;), try bittorent
[10:56] <Homer> beats me, I can't can't even get ati drivers to hardware accelerate linux apps
[10:56] <cango_> scion: what must i do
[10:56] <scion> cango_: go to system settings in the menu
[10:56] <Homer> let alone windows games
[10:57] <Homer> heh
[10:57] <cango_> ok
[10:57] <snooplsm> hey can i get some special attention?
[10:57] <lascar> even under Cedega?
[10:57] <snooplsm> fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_07-nb-5_0-linux-ml.bin
[10:57] <scion> cango_: on the top row select Regional & Accessibility
[10:57] <snooplsm> yields this error: No matching plug-in was found
[10:57] <Homer> no opengl acceraltion doesn't seem to work
[10:57] <cango_> ok
[10:57] <Homer> opengl works, but at like 3fps on Tux Racer :p
[10:57] <tibbar> I can at least play supertux on opengl :)
[10:58] <snooplsm> so any help?
[10:58] <scion> cango_: then in the menu on the left there is country/region & Language
[10:58] <cango_> scion: i can't see Turkish subselect
[10:58] <lascar> yesterday I installed Dapper from the live cd, and I haven't been able to boot into it ever since because Kubuntu hangs whenever it gets to bluetooth recognition, which is odd to me because though my mb supports it, I have no bluetooth devices.  Any help?
[10:58] <Homer> whats a good HTML editor for KDE
[10:59] <thunderstorm> hi@all
[10:59] <tibbar> also when I go to winecfg to the audio tab it crashes
[10:59] <scion> cango_: click on the default drop down list and it is under Europe/Southern
[10:59] <cango_> scion: ok
[10:59] <Sanne> Homer: some people like quanta (I don't use it myself, though)
[10:59] <thunderstorm> somewhere here speaks german?
[10:59] <Sanne> thunderstorm: #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de
[11:00] <thunderstorm> yeah, right... thanx ;)
[11:00] <snooplsm> hey whats up
[11:00] <Sanne> :)
[11:00] <cango_> scion: now i restart for this
[11:01] <office> So can anyone help me to give write acces one shared folder?
[11:01] <tibbar> does someone here have ati?
[11:01] <tony_> Hello, dose anyone got KXDOCKER for ubuntu 64 bit ??
[11:01] <scion> cango_: you need to wait for adept to stop first, then get libxine-extracodecs first!
[11:01] <cango_> scion: how
[11:01] <tony_>  :)
[11:01] <scion> cango_: the next time you turn on your laptop it will be in turkish
[11:02] <scion> du hast
[11:02] <tibbar> du bist der tisch
[11:02] <scion> tibbar: i have ati
[11:02] <office> scion: can you tell me how o give write acces one shared folder?
[11:02] <tibbar> scoin you have ati right?
[11:02] <cango_> scion: when i stop downloading,after restarting is continue
[11:02] <tibbar> ok
[11:03] <tibbar> do you have wine
[11:03] <scion> tibbar: change permissions of that folder using chmod command
[11:03] <tony_> Dose anyone have a KXDOCKER for kubuntu 64 ??? thanks
[11:03] <tibbar> office asked
[11:03] <scion> tibbar: like sudo chmod 0777 foldername here
[11:04] <kolin> what is the best music player for kubuntu
[11:04] <tibbar> scion its office that asked
[11:04] <kolin> i don't know how i feel about this amarok
[11:04] <office> scion: chmod?
[11:04] <cango_> scion: you said "you need to wait for adept to stop first, then get libxine-extracodecs first!" adept can do it? or i do it
[11:05] <scion> cango_: just continue using laptop in english until Adept is finished
[11:05] <scion> cango_: when adept finished updating search for libxine-extracodecs and request install
[11:05] <tibbar> scion have you emulated games on kubuntu?
[11:06] <cango_> you need to wait for adept to stop first, then get libxine-extracodecs first!
[11:06] <cango_> scion: you said "you need to wait for adept to stop first, then get libxine-extracodecs first!" adept can do it? or i do it
[11:06] <scion> office: yes chmod is the command to change file/ folder permissions
[11:06] <cango_> scion: can i play street fighter ex turbo 2 plus
[11:06] <office> scion: can you give me an example?
[11:06] <scion> cango_: adept to stop first, get libxine-extracodecs second :)
[11:06] <office> i have one folder: /home/Desktop/firma/
[11:06] <scion> office: okok
[11:07] <cango_> scion: can i play street fighter ex turbo 2 plus with an emulator like zinc
[11:07] <scion> sudo chmod 0777 /media/sharedfolder
[11:07] <scion> or
[11:07] <scion> sudo chmod 0755 /media/hda2/scionsfolder/
[11:08] <scion> the number gives the different permissions
[11:08] <office> i see
[11:08] <office> thx
[11:08] <office> so, now my friend will meable to write something on my shared folder?
[11:08] <tibbar> scoin have you emulated a 3d game with wine?
[11:09] <jpiccolo_> when i go to my azureus dir and run it, it works fine, but if i make a icon for it. it wont work
[11:09] <cango_> scion: i ask my last question? how can i install linux programs
[11:09] <scion> office: look at the bottom of this page for what different numbers mean - http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/WS-19990114-EM01.htm
[11:09] <tony_> what is the best PHP IDE for linux ( free or commerical ) ??
[11:09] <jpiccolo_> vi
[11:09] <scion> cango_: using Adept
[11:10] <scion> cango_: the whole point of updating your sources..list was to get a larger collection of packages to search with
[11:11] <tibbar> scoin: have you emulated a 3d game with wine?
[11:11] <scion> office: here as well http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7-Manual/getting-started-guide/s1-navigating-chmodnum.html
[11:11] <scion> tibbar: i play counter strike, unreal tournament and quake3 using wine
[11:12] <office> scion:  he is getting this message: Cannot create or replace New Foler: Access is denied Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file is not curently in use
[11:12] <tibbar> scoin: cool have you ever tried warcraft3?
[11:12] <scion> well quake 3 is actually a linux .run file so it is native to linux
[11:12] <Sanne> scion: ut has also a native linux client
[11:12] <tibbar> UT 2 isnt it???
[11:13] <scion> tibbar: from my windows days years ago when i heard warcraft was full of spyware i just never bothered, i like first person shooters instead of god games, sorry!
[11:13] <tibbar> scoin: when I emulate warcraft 3 it starts loding and then it just quits
[11:13] <cango_> scion: in my adept manager i open extracodecs status not installed but requested install
[11:14] <scion> Sanne: I know, it was from when I was learning how to use wine!!
[11:14] <scion> cango_: good stuff
[11:14] <tibbar> scoin: fps_dough
[11:14] <Sanne> scion: ah, I really should be paying more attention and backscroll , sorry! :)
[11:14] <scion> hehe
[11:14] <cango_> scion: you teach me linux
[11:15] <scion> cango_: you pay me
[11:15] <scion> lmao!!
[11:15] <cango_> scion: please
[11:15] <cango_> scion: hmmmmm
[11:15] <tibbar> scoin:its my turn :(
[11:16] <scion> cango_: it is very time consuming, i am also working, doing web development in my spare time and helping out with a project on sourceforge
[11:16] <cango> scion: i.m thinkin'
[11:16] <scion> cango_: i be very busy but when i am on this channel i will help anyone if i can
[11:16] <sinpath> ok i need help with my ripper!!
[11:16] <tibbar> scoin: hl2 cool you emulate that 2?
[11:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> question, i have a /boot/message file, but when i added the gfxmenu (hd2,0)/boot/message, it still doesn't load it. any help ?
[11:17] <cango_> scion: its not important i'm just jokin'
[11:17] <scion> tibbar: no i have that installed on on my sisters windows box!
[11:17] <tibbar> scoin: what ati drivers you using?
[11:17] <scion> cango_: i was joking about you paying me
[11:17] <tibbar> scoin: oh lol
[11:17] <cango_> scion: how can i lern it
[11:17] <cango_> scion: how can i learn it
[11:17] <thev> can someone help me out with sound?  It's not working at all...
[11:18] <scion> cango_: i read
[11:19] <scion> cango_: buy a book or read a few tutorials on the internet, it takes alot of time
[11:20] <tibbar> scoin: what ati drivers you using?
[11:20] <scion> tibbar: its scion
[11:20] <scion> and i use driver version 8.29.6
[11:20] <tibbar> scion: lol it was on my clipbord
[11:20] <scion> cango_: i am still learning new stuff every day
[11:21] <main2> thev: sup?
[11:21] <cango__> scion: how can i learn my graphic card support xgl
[11:22] <main2> thev: please come and join #alsa
[11:22] <scion> cango_: http://madpenguin.org/cms/
[11:22] <thev> main2 - just installed Kubuntu, no sound.  I have no clue what to even look for
[11:22] <tibbar> scion: when I try to emulate anything it just exits or dosn't work
[11:22] <scion> cango__: this is a good place to learn linux - http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
[11:22] <main2> first of all, can you give me an indication of how much you think you know from your system?
[11:22] <main2> so i can try to predict a number of things :P
[11:22] <cango__> scion: how can i learn my graphic card support xgl
[11:23] <main2> thev: on a scale from 0 to 10
[11:23] <scion> tibbar: yeah wine and windows programs on linux almost turned me into an alcoholic
[11:23] <main2> thev: start 'kmix' and doubleclick on the speaker in your systray
[11:23] <scion> tibbar: so nasty
[11:23] <main2> to see if anything is muted
[11:23] <scion> hello TheGateKeeper
[11:23] <sinpath> help my cd ripper wont save files!
[11:23] <cango__> scion: how can i learn my graphic card support xgl
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> hiya scion
[11:24] <thev> main2 - doesn't appear so
[11:24] <tibbar> scion: The problem is my brother has nice nvidia and it took him a weed to install Linux a emulate most games, but he has no idea whats wrong with mine thats why im here
[11:24] <scion> cango__: why you want that?
[11:25] <main2> thev: please in #alsa
[11:25] <main2> thev:  lets talk there, is more convenient
[11:26] <cango__> scion: i think it's fantastic
[11:26] <sinpath> can anyone help me with my r5ipper problem?
[11:26] <scion> tibbar: i got most of my help from the how to's here - http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[11:27] <scion> cango__: hehe, but it will probably crash your x server on your laptop
[11:27] <scion> brb - another cigarette
[11:27] <tibbar> the problem is I don't know what the problem is, it can be wine my sound or my ati drivers and I don't know
[11:28] <cango__> scion: which one is better ubuntu or KUBUNTU? or Which is the difference
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> anyone use ekiga?
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> cango__: they are the same just use a different desktop
[11:29] <cango__> scion: i ask which one gnome or kde
[11:29] <scion> cango__: ubuntu comes with Gnome, kubuntu comes with KDE
[11:30] <scion> i like KDE better, think it looks alot nicer but there is a good fan club for both
[11:30] <cango__> scion: i said that can gnome be better than kde
[11:31] <scion> i don't know, i do not like gnome but i hear it is slower then KDE
[11:31] <al_maverick> for certain things, as well as kde can be better in other things
[11:31] <scion> be right back i need 5 minutes away from PC
[11:31] <clemyeats> gnome and kde are both great, I tend to fee more at home in KDE, but Gnome's been looking really good lately.
[11:31] <fdoving> cango__: you ask in #kubuntu which is a KDE users channel. Most of us prefer KDE and Kubuntu. If you ask in #ubuntu most users will prefer GNOME.
[11:31] <tibbar> KDE is the best
[11:32] <al_maverick> anybode here used unace to uncompress .ace files?
[11:32] <tibbar> does someone know where I can get help with my wine and ati drivers for kubuntu?
[11:32] <scion> al_maverick: try 7zip
[11:33] <fdoving> al_maverick: you have problems?
[11:33] <al_maverick> yeah, trying to uncompress a .ace file, but i get an error
[11:33] <cango__> scion: can i restart after installation codecs
[11:33] <fdoving> al_maverick: what error?
[11:33] <al_maverick> no luck browsing the forums or in google
[11:33] <al_maverick> Error: No such archive found:
[11:34] <al_maverick>   /home/al/tmp/ghost.ace
[11:34] <tibbar> If you want the (scion:) infront of your text do you have to type it in the whole time?
[11:34] <fdoving> al_maverick: what is the command you're using? and what is the archive name?
[11:34] <al_maverick> the file name is right that one
[11:34] <al_maverick> ./unace x ghost.ace
[11:34] <al_maverick> unace is in the same folder
[11:35] <al_maverick> im using 2.5 from winace.com
[11:35] <clemyeats> tibbar: start typing the name then TAB. Completion.. in most IRC clients.
[11:35] <fdoving> al_maverick: i suggest installing unace from the adept archives.
[11:35] <al_maverick> i tried that, but its too old. it says it doesnt recognize the compression format
[11:36] <fdoving> al_maverick: ah.
[11:36] <fdoving> al_maverick: does ./unace work? without any arguments?
[11:37] <al_maverick> yep, it brings up the help screen
[11:37] <tibbar> !ubotu
[11:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:37] <fdoving> al_maverick: good.
[11:38] <al_maverick> it looks like its working ok, thought its the only .ace file i got, so i really dont know
[11:38] <asky> !ubotu
[11:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:38] <asky> :)
[11:38] <tibbar> !ktorrent
[11:38] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[11:38] <fdoving> al_maverick: try ./unace x /home/al/tmp/ghost.ace
[11:38] <al_maverick> ill try again :)
[11:39] <al_maverick> same error
[11:39] <tibbar> gonmefreak why are you in a kde channel?
[11:39] <Flosoft> hey
[11:39] <al_maverick> Error: No such archive found:
[11:40] <Flosoft> what package do I need for Java Support in Konqueror / Firefox?
[11:40] <tibbar> !tell gnomefreak ktorrent
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell gnomefreak ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <scion> cango__: yeah if you want
[11:40] <fdoving> !java > flosoft
[11:40] <scion> tibbar: type sc and then press tab
[11:40] <tibbar> scion: cool
[11:41] <cango> scion: i still dont play my mp3s
[11:41] <tibbar> scion: thats a bit faster
[11:41] <scion> cango: the extracodecs helps Amarok to play mp3
[11:42] <cango> scion: i install codec
[11:42] <cango> restart but i dont listen
[11:42] <Flosoft> thx
[11:42] <al_maverick> fdoving: i even downloaded v2.2, to try if it could be an error in the last version, but it was the same
[11:43] <cango> amarok open and immediately closed with this comment"playlist finished"
[11:43] <fdoving> al_maverick: sounds strange.
[11:44] <scion> cango: do you want help playing mp3?
[11:44] <super_noobs> hey..how can i check mp3 to know if it is ok?
[11:45] <cango> scion: ok i fis
[11:45] <cango> scion: ok i finish HIM like Sub-Zero
[11:45] <scion> cango: what does "fis" mean?
[11:45] <cango> scion: now my mp3s playin'
[11:46] <cango> scion: i write it wrongly
[11:46] <super_noobs> hey ... how can i convert wma to mp3?
[11:46] <scion> that is because you installed libxine-extracodecs
[11:46] <Flosoft> !java
[11:46] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:46] <super_noobs> !wma
[11:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:46] <al_maverick> fdoving: i tried to run it with t, to check the file integrity, but same error
[11:46] <cango> scion: how can i play midis?
[11:47] <scion> cango: not sure, never needed to
, u can use trimid
[11:47] <cango> scion: can amarok play the files
[11:48] <scion> cango: maybe
[11:48] <cango> scion: this amarok hardly for me
[11:48] <cango> scion: in suse amarok is very simple
[11:50] <scion> cango: suse amarok? amarok is a KDE application, it works the same way on all distrobutions with KDE
[11:50] <cango> suse with kde
[11:50] <cango> scion: suse 9.1 with KDE
[11:51] <scion> amarok on kubuntu and amarok on suse are the same thing
[11:51] <scion> amarok is the best music player ever!! totally rocks!
[11:51] <fdoving> al_maverick: i don't have any good suggestions, sorry.
[11:51] <al_maverick> fdoving: no problem. i know its weird
[11:53] <master_blaster> question: i've setup rsync task and setup ssh keys (under my regular user account, not su)... will cron.daily run this as root or as my regular user... when i sudo <script> it prompts for password once again
[11:54] <cango> scion: how can i install programs like xmms
[11:55] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:55] <Dr_willis> or fire up the package manager and search for them and install them
[11:55] <scion> or in Adept search for XMMS
[11:56] <scion> cango: most programs can be installed using Adept
[11:56] <heinkel_111> anyone familiar with sendmail MTA's here?
[11:56] <cango> scion: for example limewire
[11:57] <scion> cango: limewire is horrible
[11:57] <heinkel_111> my messages sent keep getting rejected due to sender adress domain is localhost.localdomain
[11:57] <scion> cango: i am a bit torrent fan
[11:57] <heinkel_111> how can i make sendmail add correct domain to mail sent?
[11:58] <cango> scion: hey i can see xgl from adept
[11:58] <scion> cango: for limewire you need to install it manually
[11:58] <cango> scion: can i use xgl
[11:59] <niroxx> does anyone of you know, how to change the textcolor in the controlline of kde ?
[11:59] <cango> i really love it
[11:59] <fdoving> heinkel_111: not too familiar with sendmail, but i strongly recommend postfix if you can choose what MTA to use.
[11:59] <scion> cango: do it if you want but your laptop might crash
[12:00] <cango> scion: i said that if x server down can i use safe mode
[12:00] <scion> cango: i would not recommend it, a normal desktop is fine
[12:00] <scion> cango: do it if you want
[12:01] <niroxx> how can i change the textcolor of the open programs in the statusbar of kde ? screenshot : http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4023/bildschirmphoto7xx1.jpg
[12:01] <cango> scion: 1.7 centrino 64MB grap card, 256 mb ram
[12:01] <scion> cango: disclaimer - if smoke comes out of your laptop its not my problem
[12:01] <sync00> when I run ./configure on a certain installation, i get the following error: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[12:01] <cango> scion: you scared me
[12:02] <sync00> how do I get the X includes?
[12:02] <scion> 64mb card?? don't bother, if it runs it will be very very slow
[12:03] <cango> scion: where can i find kde themes
[12:03] <heinkel_111> sync00: i think you need the developer packages
[12:03] <heinkel_111> not 100% sure
[12:03] <lupine_85> scion: bit of a sweeping statement there ;). Would likely work, assuming it's an AIGLX setup
[12:03] <scion> cango in Adept
[12:03] <lupine_85> however, quinn's repos are broken atm
[12:03] <lupine_85> #ubuntu-xgl for more
[12:04] <fdoving> sync00: as heinkel_111 says, you need xorg-dev.
[12:04] <scion> type kde and scroll down through the list until you see themes, somewhere in the middle
[12:04] <cango> scion: i said that can be a codec for midis
[12:04] <sync00> alright, thanks heinkel_111 and fdoving :)
[12:05] <scion> cango: or take a look at http://www.kde-look.org - they have many themes/icons/wallpapers
[12:05] <Sanne> sync00: you can try libx11-dev
[12:05] <cango> scion: ok
[12:05] <scion> cango: type midi into Adept
[12:06] <scion> cango: is your kubuntu now in turkish?
[12:06] <cango> scion: no
[12:07] <cango> scion: in language section only english
[12:07] <scion> cango: i take screenshot and email to you
[12:08] <cango> scion: ok
[12:09] <octan> hi all
[12:09] <octan> anyone got little to do?
[12:09] <octan> can someone nmap me? i cant do it myself B|coz i have ports open on my lan that are closed to internet
[12:09] <kolin> is there any mp3 player for linux that's like foobar2000
[12:09] <kolin> or as customizable


[00:59] <Unit193> Dowh, we lost the nice ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log now. :(
[01:35] <bluesabre> evening all
[01:36] <Unit193> Howdy.
[01:36] <bluesabre> flocculant, indeed, I misunderstood there
[01:36] <bluesabre> hi Unit193!
[02:18] <Unit193> Hrm, wasn't I going to nag you about something minor again? :P
[20:32] <knome> good evening people
[20:40] <flocculant> hi knome
[20:45] <knome> 'lo flocculant
[20:45] <knome> everything running well in the trackerland, eg. the times are up?
[20:46] <flocculant> yup
[20:46] <knome> great to hear
[20:47] <knome> to both you and akxwi-dave; anything else you'd like to see tracker do for QA?
[20:47] <flocculant> don't actually look much - not doing much more than hassle Sean with bugs ;)
[20:47] <flocculant> I did fleetingly think about adding 16.04 to status
[20:48] <flocculant> but given the amount of testing we get thought it rather ppointless
[20:48] <akxwi-dave> same here at moment just  iso testing to make sure no major probs
[20:48] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: and writing a mail to dev list re milestones :p
[20:49] <akxwi-dave> yup.. better get that done... :-)
[20:49] <flocculant> :D
[20:50] <flocculant> point release isn't far off really - with xmas and new year looming
[20:51] <akxwi-dave> actually I noticed that earlier, when checking it..
[20:51] <knome> i really plan to move everything in the tracker to release-based system, eg. you can have status for each release (easily) separately
[20:51] <knome> and also, can easily have several releases visible/enabled in the tracker
[20:52] <flocculant> not sure that's appropriate for more than lts's
[20:52] <knome> well there you go
[20:53] <flocculant> anything really major for non-lts would only ever be sru
[20:53] <knome> currently that's not really "supported" :)
[20:53] <flocculant> yea
[20:53] <knome> but the thing is - once the new stuff is in place, it doesn't really matter if you want to track SRU stuff separately, as it's going to be so easy (tm)
[20:53] <flocculant> and frankly I'm not sure how many people actually ever look at that page
[20:54] <knome> i should look more, but since i've been kind of out of the loop/not contributing much, i haven't
[20:54] <flocculant> outside of team
[20:54] <knome> part of the reason i'm asking questions is to try to make it more useful for others as well
[20:54] <flocculant> yea
[20:54] <knome> it has good potential as it is now
[20:54] <flocculant> might be worth asking outside 'team'
[20:54] <knome> a bit more human text and not graphs and it can do much better
[20:54] <flocculant> not that you need do that of course
[20:55] <knome> sure, but that'd mean it would be nice if you had time to potentially put together new bits if something nice shows up
[20:55] <knome> as it is now, i don't have time to do the changes i want that would help the team, so better not fill the TODO list ;)
[20:55] <flocculant> the original idea being to let other people know easily if iso was a dud
[20:56] <knome> too bad ubuntu wasn't accepted for GCI this time btw
[20:56] <knome> that would have potentially meant more work on the tracker
[20:56] <knome> but maybe i should try to poke matthew to hear if he wanted to work on the API
[20:58] <flocculant> lol at time :p
[20:58] <flocculant> as I said - bout the only thing which had crossed my mind was lts's
[20:59] <knome> sure
[20:59] <flocculant> and that was fleeting ...
[20:59] <knome> the thing is - one more of the benefits for storing data internally is the release-based approach
[20:59] <knome> so it's kind of built-in already to the new code
[20:59] <flocculant> :)
[23:09] <krytarik> I'll mention that two weeks ago, I split off my improved Xubuntu splash image for CD Image from the doomed Core bundle: https://code.launchpad.net/~krytarik/debian-cd/xubuntu-splash/+merge/311982
[23:10] <Unit193> Yet still doomed?
[23:10] <krytarik> ..Apparently.