[10:42] <un_operateur> synjet, do you program a language that can read the database and format the quote?
[10:42] <cflcm> or a way to start grip without creating multiple instances?
[10:42] <ru4him> i have a problem i plugged my usb harddrive in while in root and it comes back after i click on the open in new window error kde deamon Malformed URL
[10:42] <diskus> synjet: check .bashrc
[10:42] <cntb> !ask | ru4him
[10:42] <ubotu> ru4him: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:42] <reverseblade> cflcm, eject -t
[10:42] <ru4him> i have a problem i plugged my usb harddrive in while in root and it comes back after i click on the open in new window error kde deamon Malformed URL
[10:42] <peirce141> un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38415/
[10:43] <_opex_>  _ and TAB ?
[10:43] <ru4him> but when i do it in theuser mode it works
[10:43] <reverseblade> ru4him, try #kde ,as well
[10:43] <diskus> ru4him: write your message again so that people will understand it
[10:43] <synjet> un_operateur: nope, it is just from an install that dloads the database.. I saw it on a mac's emacs shell; diskus: I tried tweaking my .bashrc, but was unable to get resources to "howto"
[10:43] <eilker> ru4him: did u try to resart kde ?
[10:43] <MrSprout> Could I get some help with a dual core issue?
[10:43] <flevour> after upgrading to fiesty, gnome doesnt automatically display my ipod icon on the desktop when i plug it in, even if hal correctly mounts it under /media. what do i need to do to reenable that behaviour?
[10:43] <reverseblade> !ask MrSprout
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask MrSprout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <MrSprout> Ubuntu is only recognizing one core.
[10:44] <reverseblade> MrSprout, nosmp ?
[10:44] <synjet> !ask >MrSprout
[10:44] <cflcm> reverseblade: do I start it with that parameter?
[10:44] <MrSprout> I'm totally new with linux.
[10:44] <reverseblade> cflcm, no that command closes the CD tray in
[10:44] <Stormx2> MrSprout: Thats fine.
[10:44] <cflcm> oh, I meant is there a way to make it automatically close when it is done
[10:44] <w3ccv> peirce141, you need to 'iptables -I INPUT 3  -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT"
[10:44] <reverseblade> MrSprout, what problem do you have specifically
[10:45] <MrSprout> I've got ubuntu working great, but it's only utilizing one of my two processor cores.
[10:45] <reverseblade> cflcm, yes absolutely, try cd_recording_command && eject -t
[10:45] <MrSprout> I'm running a core 2 duo.
[10:45] <reverseblade> MrSprout, how do you know ?
[10:45] <mralphabet> MrSprout: how did you determine this?
[10:45] <reverseblade> MrSprout, what is your computer's brand ?
[10:46] <MrSprout> I built it myself
[10:46] <peirce141> w3ccv: alright, ill try that
[10:46] <reverseblade> MrSprout, how do you know it uses 1 proc ?
[10:46] <MrSprout> hang on, i'll get the command I used.
[10:47] <peirce141> w3ccv: still nothing
[10:47] <MrSprout> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep '^processor' | wc -l
[10:47] <MrSprout> I tried that
[10:47] <MrSprout> it returned 1
[10:47] <w3ccv> peirce141, paste the new iptalbes -L
[10:47] <reverseblade> MrSprout, I have also 2 processors let me try it
[10:47] <atle|f> top then press 1
[10:47] <un_operateur> peirce141, seems you dont have a opening for SSH after all
[10:47] <diskus> MrSprout: and you run SMP kernel?
[10:48] <MrSprout> No
[10:48] <un_operateur> peirce141, IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[10:48] <MrSprout> I have no idea what that means, but my friend told me I didn't
[10:48] <WebMaven> Hi folks. I just installed a new video card in another computer. During the install I moved the ethernet card to a different PCI slot. After the hardware upgrade, I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and the new card works fine. However, the network card is no longer detected. What do I do?
[10:48] <ru4him> yes eilker i even restated computer same problem
[10:48] <reverseblade> MrSprout, that also outputs 1 for me
[10:48] <jontec> is there anyway to get ubuntu to re-detect my sound card?
[10:48] <un_operateur> peirce141, oops --  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[10:48] <n2diy> MrSprout:  your first processor is 0, the second one is 1
[10:48] <ru4him> with the harddrive plugged in
[10:48] <anto9us> *ding dong* This is a public announcement. A quiz has now commenced in #ubuntu-trivia. So, if you're up for a bit of fun/showing off/frustrated typing and angst as someone beats you to the answer. Then please join #ubuntu-trivia. Thank you for your attention. *dong ding*
[10:48] <diskus> MrSprout: just cat /proc/cpuinfo and read everything from there
[10:48] <reverseblade> MrSprout, that output is just fine
[10:49] <eilker> ru4him: by the way, next time, u dont have to reboot, just sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:49] <MrSprout> ok, hang on
[10:49] <un_operateur> synjet, can you work your quote program from the command line? has it a command line interface?
[10:49] <cflcm> well, that won't quite do what I need, so is there a way to start so that if there is already a grip instance running it will not start another?
[10:49] <MrSprout> diskus, do you want me to paste all this?
[10:49] <ru4him> ok ei
[10:49] <reverseblade> cflcm, what do you mean ?
[10:49] <diskus> MrSprout: no, just read it for yourself, there's only one processor?
[10:49] <n2diy> MrSprout:  your first processor is 0, the second one is 1
[10:50] <peirce141> un_operateur: ill try it
[10:50] <MrSprout> ok
[10:50] <diskus> I don't even know how dual cores behave in Linux
[10:50] <synjet> un_operateur: I wish I knew the name.. I have no idea of the prog, I just know such a facility exists.. hence the ignorance.. it is unlike the cowpatty (that gives the word inside an ASCII cow) that is CLI
[10:50] <diskus> are they seen as 2 different processors?
[10:50] <reverseblade> cflcm, you can write a script that checks the output of pgrep <target_process> , so if it exists it does something , etc
[10:50] <drach> diskus: yes as 2 processors
[10:50] <reverseblade> diskus, yes
[10:50] <cflcm> I want to set it up to automatically rip cds as I put them in, but setting it to run automatically means that if I rip 50 cds, unless I close the instances as I go, there will be 50 instances of it running at once
[10:50] <MrSprout> diskus the cat /proc/cpuinfo command just shows processor: 0
[10:50] <WebMaven> Hi folks. I just installed a new video card in another computer. During the install I moved the ethernet card to a different PCI slot. After the hardware upgrade, I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and the new card works fine. However, the network card is no longer detected. What do I do?
[10:50] <reverseblade> MrSprout, I am assure that output is nothing abnormal for 2 cpus
[10:50] <un_operateur> synjet, ok, hold up
[10:51] <MrSprout> ok reverseblade, but is there a way for me to be sure it's using both cores?
[10:51] <synjet> un_operateur: sure..
[10:51] <diskus> MrSprout: can you paste 'uname -a' to me, it should print one line only
[10:51] <MrSprout> Linux michael 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:51] <MrSprout> Is that right?
[10:52] <n2diy> MrSprout: are you running the SMP kernel?
[10:52] <MrSprout> n2diy, I have no idea.
[10:52] <reverseblade> MrSprout, I can suggest you a rough way. It does not guarantee but it gives you an idea. Try glxgears -printfps, and tell me what output do you get
[10:52] <diskus> MrSprout: you should try installing SMP kernel
[10:52] <gremi> Hi all, I want to install an edgy 62 (i have already a 32 bin installation) . Do I have to separate the /boot on an ext3 partiton?
[10:52] <gremi> 64
[10:52] <un_operateur> synchk,  here you go -- sudo aptitude install fortune
[10:52] <reverseblade> MrSprout, that's true SMP is a must for 2 x proc
[10:52] <un_operateur> synjet, oops ^^^
[10:52] <reverseblade> !smp | MrSprout
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <n2diy> If you have dual CPUs you need to install an SMP kernel, use synaptic to do it.
[10:52] <mjr> gremi, generally no, unless your root filesystem is on a funky logical disk or something
[10:53] <reverseblade> Smp is symetric multi processing blah blah..
[10:53] <MrSprout> reverseblade
[10:53] <MrSprout> 1263 frames in 5.0 seconds = 252.030 FPS
[10:53] <Infeliz-> lol
[10:53] <un_operateur> synjet, once you've installed fortune .. its just a matter of adding a line to the end of your ~/.bashrc (which you already know)
[10:53] <atle|f> i thought the generic covered smp as well
[10:53] <WebMaven> Am I asking my question wrong?
[10:53] <gremi> I can use the /boot of my 32 bit partition to lanch the 64 bit system?
[10:53] <reverseblade> MrSprout, prolly single cpu
[10:53] <MrSprout> arggh.. nuts.
[10:53] <reverseblade> not a guarantee though, just a guess
[10:53] <mjr> atle|f, not the 386 one...
[10:53] <synjet> un_operateur: thanks.. I guess that is what I was looking for..
[10:54] <MrSprout> So how do I install a SMP kernel?
[10:54] <reverseblade> MrSprout, how did you installed ubuntu ?
[10:54] <MrSprout> from the livecd
[10:54] <Seveas> MrBrizzio, the default kernel can do SMP
[10:54] <MrSprout> then installed from there.
[10:54] <MrSprout> gui
[10:54] <Seveas> MrSprout*
[10:54] <reverseblade> MrBrizzio, it should already install SMP
[10:54] <n2diy> MrSprout: with synaptic, in /system/admin.
[10:54] <un_operateur> synjet, there are more fortune cookie databases available -- aptitude search fortune
[10:54] <gan|y|med> hi
[10:55] <WebMaven> Hello?
[10:55] <reverseblade> !hi | gan|y|med
[10:55] <ubotu> gan|y|med: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:55] <atle|f> uname -a on x2 amd = Linux m2n 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:55] <gan|y|med> in dapper i could connect my eos 350d just fine, automatic detection (ptp mode), everything worked fine. in edgy i cannot access the camera in ptp mode at all. auto detection gives normal mode. i can connect and see the pics, but i can't download them. libgphoto2 is installed
[10:55] <cflcm> reverseblade, did that make any sense?
[10:55] <synjet> un_operateur: oh ok.. I wasnt searching with the right key word (quote/quotation didnt help) and hence the rock I hit.. thanks!
[10:55] <gan|y|med> i know digikam is not used in ubuntu, but might it be a udev related problem?
[10:55] <reverseblade> cflcm, what excuse me ?
[10:55] <rance> I need some help getting around a known alsa bug, the driver for my card is known to wrongly detect the capabilities of the hardware, thus rendering sound useless, I've fixed part of my problem, but havent been able to finish, can someone give me some pointers
[10:55] <cflcm> I want to set it up to automatically rip cds as I put them in, but setting it to run automatically means that if I rip 50 cds, unless I close the instances as I go, there will be 50 instances of it running at once
[10:56] <reverseblade> rance, may be compining ALSA from source ?
[10:56] <reverseblade> compiling
[10:56] <WebMaven> I have Dapper installed. I moved the ethernet card to anothe PCI slot, and now it doesn't work. What do I do?
[10:56] <diskus> WebMaven: tried to move it to different slot?
[10:56] <Seveas> WebMaven, put it back?
[10:56] <un_operateur> ha ha
[10:57] <synjet> Webmaven: is it not detecting the card or a network.. it might be recognizing it as eth2 or something else..
[10:57] <un_operateur> WebMaven, try ifconfig
[10:57] <WebMaven> diskus, Seveas: it would block the video card fan in the original spot.
[10:57] <foo> I needed to boot ubuntu 6.10 with noapic ... and, the only difference I see is the splash screen .. the quality is terrible. I installed with this, and it looks like the installed version does the same. Any way to fix this?
[10:57] <reverseblade> foo
[10:57] <diskus> WebMaven: you probably have more than one extra PCI slot?
[10:57] <reverseblade> foo, what is your comps brand ?
[10:57] <WebMaven> un_operateur: ifconfig only shows lo, not eth0
[10:58] <diskus> WebMaven: try ifconfig -a
[10:58] <foo> reverseblade: white box
[10:58] <tomh-> how many files can a ext3 filesystem directory contain?
[10:58] <MrSprout> What advantages does a SMP kernel offer?
[10:58] <MrSprout> over whatever it is I'm running now.
[10:58] <diskus> MrSprout: more than 1 cpu
[10:58] <reverseblade> foo, what quality is terrible ?
[10:58] <Stormx2> tomh-: Infinitum... I think
[10:58] <foo> reverseblade: The start up screen that shows Ubuntu and then the progress bar
[10:58] <rance> reversibleblade: thanks for the hint, I tried that and the compiled module refused to load into a running kernel
[10:58] <reverseblade> MrSprout, it is the only way that kernel runs your 2 cpus symettrically
[10:58] <w3ccv> tomh-, lots mor than you want in it
[10:58] <rance> not sure why
[10:58] <MrSprout> Ok
[10:58] <WebMaven> diskus: only 3 PCI slots
[10:59] <reverseblade> MrSprout, wikipedia: smp
[10:59] <MrSprout> so how do I set it up?
[10:59] <MrSprout> ok
[10:59] <MrSprout> thanks
[10:59] <n2diy> If you have dual CPUs, you are only using one of them now, SMP would turn them both on.
[10:59] <un_operateur> tomh-, as many as the harddisk will contain? :)
[10:59] <rance> now I have a fresh install and trying again
[10:59] <clintiepoo> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me change my screen resolution.  I have edited xconf.org several times but I am still struggling...
[10:59] <WebMaven> diskus: ifconfig -a also shows sit0
[10:59] <n2diy> MrSprout: If you have dual CPUs, you are only using one of them now, SMP would turn them both on.
[10:59] <reverseblade> foo, what exactly bothers you ?
[10:59] <MrSprout> ok
[10:59] <MrSprout> that's what I'm after n2diy
[10:59] <un_operateur> WebMaven, do you know the make/model of your NIC?
[10:59] <diskus> WebMaven: well, I had similar problem about 5 years ago, only solution I could find then was moving card back
[10:59] <synjet> clintiepoo: did you restart xserver to make the change effective?
[11:00] <reverseblade> MrSprout, as long as you do not have nosmp option in boot options, you should be using smp
[11:00] <Lunis> can anyone suggest a good download manager with multi-part, multi-source downloading?
[11:00] <Lunis> preferably for gnome
[11:00] <n2diy> MrSprout: ok so go to system/admin, and click on synaptic.
[11:00] <Seveas> Lunis, gwget or d4x
[11:00] <reverseblade> Lunis, curl ?
[11:00] <Lunis> perhaps like re-get
[11:00] <amaia> hi, how can I create an ad-hoc wireless network using network manager? using "create new wireless network" fails because it attemps to get an IP address via DHCP which obviously will fail because i am the only computer on the network...
[11:00] <un_operateur> Lunis, gwget
[11:00] <Lunis> Seveas: un_operateur thanks, i'll check those two out
[11:00] <clintiepoo> yeah. The login screen is in a new resolution. The problem is that I can ctrl-alt-bksp to restart, and it won't let me log back in.  It just restarts x when I try.  I have to restore my backup xorg.conf
[11:01] <un_operateur> . o 0 ( ha ha, new mr. gullible )
[11:01] <WebMaven> un_operateur: Not exactly. The device manager shows it as an unknown VIA device.
[11:01] <clintiepoo> I have a Dell 2405FPW
[11:01] <foo> reverseblade: uh, it's really low quality due to noapic. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286820 - this was my issue
[11:01] <tomh-> and how about the amount of directories per directory in ext3?
[11:02] <tomh-> cause my client has a server which has a limit of 32k
[11:02] <un_operateur> WebMaven, try this at a terminal -- dmesg | egrep -i "eth|net"
[11:02] <tomh-> which is weird i think
[11:02] <un_operateur> tomh-, its a variable amount
[11:02] <reverseblade> foo, I am using noapic  also. AFAIK noapic has no practical affect on the kernel, and your display
[11:02] <tomh-> how ?
[11:02] <gan|y|med> i have a process (digikam) that i cannot kill with kill -9. what can i do???
[11:02] <diskus> gan|y|med: reboot?
[11:02] <w3ccv> WebMaven, computers are really dumb, if it didnt' knwo the card 5 years ago it still won't know
[11:02] <lola_> hiiii i'm a desperate physics student and i have no idea how to do this but i have to compile a program my teacher made in c and i don't have the c libraries or however you call them can anyone help me please?
[11:02] <lola_> ?
[11:02] <reverseblade> gan|y|med, sudo killall -9 process name
[11:02] <gan|y|med> great idea
[11:02] <b03nto> !nubuntu
[11:02] <BearPerson> gan|y|med, kill its parent
[11:03] <gan|y|med> i am not on windows
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <Lunis> Seveas: D4X looks like what I'm wanting, thanks :)
[11:03] <gan|y|med> how do i figure out its parent?
[11:03] <n2diy> ganly, what about 9?
[11:03] <reverseblade> lola_, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[11:03] <chris218> hey guys. i need some help my install on a vaio sz-110 notebook. the graphics are terrible after i updated some things and rebooted
[11:03] <un_operateur> tomh-, it depends on how the data structure for the file table is implemented on disk and how much space it occupies
[11:03] <Madpilot> lola_, get build-essential to compile stuff
[11:03] <Madpilot> ubotu, b-e | lola_
[11:03] <ubotu> lola_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:03] <lola_> thanks!!!
[11:03] <WebMaven> un_operateur: one line says something about an audit...
[11:03] <BearPerson> gan|y|med, should be in the column PPID (parent pid) in ps aux / ps -eaf / top
[11:03] <reverseblade> chris218, graphic card
[11:04] <WebMaven> un_operateur: audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
[11:04] <gan|y|med> thx a lot
[11:04] <valentino> hey, is there a way to compile delphi under linux?
[11:04] <Seveas> valentino, not really
[11:04] <timo901> Hey I'm trying to install xmms vumeter-0.9.2
[11:04] <Seveas> valentino, there's kylix, but it's non-free
[11:04] <gan|y|med> it si not even listed in top. trying the othres
[11:05] <gan|y|med> others
[11:05] <valentino> Seveas: i went to borland site and kylix is not there anymore
[11:05] <timo901> im getting this error message; checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:05] <diskus> kylix is still alive?
[11:05] <twix> i'm on a kubuntu livecd, anyone know if there's a way to startup the installer from here?
[11:05] <WebMaven> un_operateur: was that what you were looking for?
[11:05] <Seveas> !compiling | valentino
[11:05] <ubotu> valentino: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:05] <un_operateur> WebMaven, was that the only line of output?
[11:05] <timo901> twix:there should be an installer button on the desktop
[11:05] <un_operateur> WebMaven, try this -- dmesg | egrep -i "eth|net" -A 3
[11:06] <clintiepoo> does anyone have experience editing xconf.org?
[11:06] <bobbyc> hello, i installed compiz/xgl using a tutorial and it was working fine. after installing a lot of programs/codecs using automatix it seems to have stopped working since rebooting. can anyone help me?
[11:06] <twix> timo901: it's an old kubuntu livecd, and there isn't...can it be downloaded?
[11:06] <bobbyc> /usr/bin/thefuture: line 2: gnome-window-decorator: command not found
[11:06] <WebMaven> un_operateur: no, several other lines about 'registered protocol family'
[11:06] <bobbyc> is the error message i get
[11:06] <n2diy> clintiepoo: yes
[11:06] <puff> I'm having some problems with gnome... they seem to come and go. First symptom was keyboard problems, a few keys not working properly, also randomly turning on numlock.
[11:06] <Madpilot> twix, if you're going to download something, grab the newest Kubuntu LiveCD
[11:06] <un_operateur> webben, please pastebin the last command
[11:06] <foo> reverseblade: ohhh, interesting. That's the kind of thing I was looking for.
[11:06] <foo> reverseblade: Uh, that's really weird, then.
[11:06] <diskus> valentino: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylix_programming_tool = Kylix is dead, forget it
[11:06] <Seveas> bobbyc, automatix tends to break things
[11:06] <gan|y|med> ok, its parent id is 1!
[11:07] <puff> now I'm having mouse problems as well, can't get it to let me change apps.
[11:07] <gan|y|med> what does this mean???
[11:07] <timo901> twix:i dont know ,to be honest, mabe try the terminal
[11:07] <bobbyc> i see
[11:07] <twix> rgr, thanks
[11:07] <puff> Firefox wouldn't let me change from tab to tab, managed to get into a terminal window, ran top, saw gnome-terminal taking 97% of cpu, killed the process.
[11:07] <Stormx2> British Television is ripping off Linux! UKTV History current programme: Nautilus. E4 current programma: Kalifornia
[11:07] <Seveas> bobbyc, you're better of starting from scratch than trying to repair what automatix broke
[11:07] <bobbyc> if i were to go through the tutorial again would it still work? thats if i can find it
[11:07] <puff> I'm typing this now in a console window, everything works fine, so it's not a mechanical problem.
[11:07] <Seveas> !offtopic | Stormx2
[11:07] <ubotu> Stormx2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:08] <Seveas> bobbyc, probably not
[11:08] <timo901> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop , some thing like that
[11:08] <puff> Anybody have any idea what's causing this?
[11:08] <un_operateur> Stormx2, what are they saying?
[11:08] <jeeves_Moss> all:  does anyone here know about gkismet?  I can't get it to work
[11:08] <clintiepoo> I'm having some problems.  I have this 24" monitor here and I can only get it to be 1024x768
[11:08] <WebMaven> un_operateur: a lot more output. What am I looking for?
[11:08] <MrSprout> clintiepoo
[11:08] <clintiepoo> yeah
[11:08] <timo901> any one know why im getting this error
[11:08] <MrSprout> I had the exact same problem yesterday
[11:08] <gan|y|med> no chance.
[11:08] <timo901> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:08] <Seveas> puff, does g-t always do that?
[11:08] <Stormx2> un_operateur: Talk in #ubuntu-offtopic as Seveas said
[11:08] <puff> MrSprout: Was that to me?
[11:08] <timo901> vumeter-0.9.2
[11:08] <Seveas> !compiling | timo901
[11:08] <ubotu> timo901: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:09] <gouki> jeeves_Moss: Kismet is made up by two parts. The server kismet_server and client, kismet_client. Have you configured the server part?
[11:09] <puff> Seveas: g-t?
[11:09] <MrSprout> no, to clintiepoo
[11:09] <puff> Seveas: Oh, gnome-terminal.  No.
[11:09] <Seveas> puff gnome-terminal :)
[11:09] <bobbyc> ok thanks seveas, i'm gonan give the tutorial another go.
[11:09] <puff> Seveas: Never seen it do that.
[11:09] <MrSprout> anyway, brb
[11:09] <n2diy> puff, I missed the question.
[11:09] <timo901> thnka yo
[11:09] <WebMaven> un_operateur: hello?
[11:09] <timo901> thank you*
[11:09] <clintiepoo> what did you do to fix it?  I'm running around in circles...
[11:09] <jeeves_Moss> gouk:  yes.  I'm getting a "Can't locate Gnome.pm" error
[11:09] <Seveas> puff, the only time I see g-t do that is when it has to scroll an insane amount of text
[11:10] <WebMaven> un_operateur: hello?
[11:10] <gouki> jeeves_Moss: What Wireless NIC are you using?
[11:10] <puff> Seveas: Well, I'd just gone through and deleted about 500 spams from mutt, but I've never seen it react that way in the past.
[11:10] <jeeves_Moss> gouki:  it's an athoes.  I can get Kismit to run properly by running "kismet" @ the shell, but I want to run a more graphical version of it.
[11:11] <puff> n2diy: Want a private message of it?
[11:11] <timo901> is there a short cut to run a terminal
[11:11] <n2diy> puff, never dealt with a private message!
[11:11] <Seveas> puff, what I mean is more like "while true; do cat /some/file; done
[11:11] <Seveas> so, continuous scrolling
[11:12] <gouki> jeeves_Moss: Is it apt-getable? (gkismet, that is)
[11:12] <puff> Seveas: Ah, no, it's not doing that.
[11:12] <puff> That is, i wasn't doing anything like that.
[11:12] <chris218> hey guys. im having troule with my graphics after installing and rebooting ubuntu after updating. the grahpics card is GeForce 7400 Go on my vaio sz-110 notebook. im running off the live cd right now. i installed ver. 6.06 this morning and after first install this issue happened
[11:12] <Seveas> puff, then blame it on microsoft and forget about it ;) It probably won't do it again and if it's not reproducible, it's ery hard to fix
[11:12] <jeeves_Moss> aouki:  no it's not unfornatuly.
[11:13] <puff> Oh, so now after killing gnome, firefox lets me use th emouse to select abs, but ctrl-tab doesn't work, and I can't seem to minimize firefox or alt-tab or use the window-select dropdown that I added to the control panel.
[11:14] <timo901> thank you every thing has compiled
[11:14] <n2diy> Why is k3b locking my cdrw disks, how can I prevent it?
[11:14] <puff> Come ot think of it, that's one of the changes I made recently, added about a half dozen items to the panel.  Could that be causing this?
[11:14] <chris218> any help on the graphics issue?
[11:14] <Life> hello, for some reason my server's connectivity is down, can't ping to anything
[11:14] <Life> any help?
[11:14] <Life> there is no firewall, so can't be a firewall's fault
[11:15] <jbroome> uhh, could the net connection be down?
[11:15] <Life> network is fine
[11:15] <gouki> Life: Can you ping the nearest side of the router? I do recommend ##networking if it's not Ubuntu related
[11:15] <puff> Life What do you mean you can't ping anything?
[11:15] <WebMaven> un_operateur: OK, I got the output onto a USB stick, and here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/843398
[11:15] <puff> Life: That is, if it's down, how are you here?
[11:15] <un_operateur> WebMaven, ok
[11:15] <Life> puff: remote server working via KVM over IP
[11:15] <Life> puff: ping = time out
[11:15] <puff> Life: Presumably you're using a different computer?  So describe the tests you've done with your problem server.
[11:15] <timo901> should apt-get GLIB >= 1.2.10 ,get the packedeg
[11:16] <Seveas> Life, if you can connect to it, it's working
[11:16] <puff> Life:  so you're on the console of the bx?
[11:16] <markoutthere> Hello all, I am having problems installing a video driver for hp pavilion zt1180, anyone know how to do it?
[11:16] <Life> puff: sorry, "unknown host"
[11:16] <Seveas> if you can't ping from it, phone your colo and tell them not to block ping
[11:16] <markoutthere> I am a linux newbie
[11:16] <Life> puff: yes
[11:16] <Life> serveas: im pinging FROM the server
[11:16] <timo901> ohh its sudo apt-get install GLIB >= 1.2.10
[11:16] <Seveas> Life, "unknown host" --> fix your dns setup and try pinging to an ip
[11:16] <gouki> Life: Can you ping the nearest side of the router?
[11:17] <Life> gouki: will try
[11:17] <lola_> Madpilot and ubotu: thanks very much!
[11:17] <puff> Life: Yeah, step one, ping the IP address of your router.  The internal network address, assuming oyu're doing NAT.
[11:17] <n2diy> Life, can you ping your loopback device?
[11:17] <puff> n2diy: Ooh, good one.
[11:17] <un_operateur> WebMaven, can you do these two --- lspci; hwinfo;
[11:17] <wsjunior> hello i installed ati driver here but fglrxinfo shows me MESA instead of ATI.. does anybody knows how to fix this?
[11:18] <Seveas> [, stop the nickchange spam
[11:18] <puff> n2diy: Just kidding... but yeah, good idea.
[11:18] <Life> seveas: pinging the server's own IP address works
[11:18] <Life> pinging the gateway IP doesn't work
[11:18] <n2diy> puff, thanks.
[11:18] <WebMaven> un_operateur: OK, give me a minute
[11:18] <Life> n2diy: pinging localhost works
[11:19] <puff> Life: okay, so make sure that your netowrk is up?  iwconfig, check for the netwoerk device and see it's status.
[11:19] <un_operateur> !ati | wsjunior
[11:19] <ubotu> wsjunior: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <n2diy> Ok, so ping is working.
[11:19] <gouki> puff: iwconfig is for wireless NICs
[11:19] <n2diy> Life, Ok, so ping is working.
[11:20] <Life> puff: iwconfig?
[11:20] <n2diy> Life, you could have a bad network cable?
[11:20] <Life> n2siy: im 100% sure it's the server itself
[11:20] <WebMaven> un_operateur: hwinfo isn't a valid command
[11:20] <Life> n2diy*
[11:20] <un_operateur> .o 0 ( maybe he meant ifconfig )
[11:20] <gouki> Life: No, use ifconfig -a instea
[11:20] <gouki> Life: No, use ifconfig -a instead
[11:21] <un_operateur> WebMaven, lspci will have to do then
[11:21] <n2diy> Life, ok.
[11:21] <dibblego> !nvidia
[11:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:22] <puff> Life: Sorry, ifconfig.
[11:22] <Life> gouki: loopback has packets, however sit0 has no packets at all
[11:22] <puff> Life: Been doing a lot of wireless lately.
[11:22] <n2diy> Life, you might try stopping and then re-starting the server.
[11:22] <Life> n2diy: okay will reboot server now
[11:23] <n2diy> Life, you don't have to reboot.
[11:23] <Life> n2diy: too late
[11:23] <Life> :O
[11:23] <magic_ninja> my mouse is going on and off via xfce, any ideas
[11:23] <puff> Damn, I think I figured out what happened... odd though.  Either that or the problem just mysteriously went away.
[11:23] <WebMaven> un_operateur: http://pastebin.com/843402
[11:23] <magic_ninja> ohh yea my distro is edgy 6.10
[11:23] <Life> n2diy: rebooted
[11:23] <puff> to wit, I found a gnome "run application" popup, canceled that and now I can swithc windows and all.
[11:23] <Life> n2diy: eth0 is 100mbs for full duplex (up and running)
[11:23] <foo> I am going to install windows on this drive on a separate partition. In the past I have installed windows, then ubuntu.. and ubuntu picked up the windows partition. Is there a way to rerun grub after I install windows so it can detect the windows install?
[11:24] <chris218> after rebooting, graphics out of whack. is there a way to revert back to graphics settings before reboot? please help
[11:24] <n2diy> Life, cool.
[11:24] <magic_ninja> foo: yes, there is a command in console to restore the grub menu
[11:24] <kevman> Does anyone know  how to change the mapping of laptop playback keys?
[11:24] <magic_ninja> foo: give me one moment plz
[11:25] <n2diy> kevman, system/pref/keyboard
[11:25] <ziadoz> does anyone know why the @ symbol on my keyboard keeps coming out as an ?
[11:25] <magic_ninja> foo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[11:25] <un_operateur> WebMaven, thats odd -- your card is detected (last entry) but i dont think it's loaded right, maybe because drivers are missing -- you'll need to manually gather the make/model name and download and install drivers
[11:26] <kevman> hur, maybe I should ask in kubuntu
[11:26] <magic_ninja> un_operateur: that is soooooo fun
[11:26] <WebMaven> But it was working before... I didn't change the network card, only the video card.
[11:26] <magic_ninja> foo: that what you need?
[11:26] <n2diy> ziadoz, is it a stock keyboard setup?
[11:26] <WebMaven> I only *moved* the network card.
[11:26] <Kezman74> I'm looking for a good FS I can use on an external drive between OSX, Linux and Windblows. Take away FAT and what are my options? I need rw, and could store very large files?
[11:26] <ziadoz> n2diy, its a bog standard no name keyboard, no special keys
[11:26] <kutkinna> !id
[11:26] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[11:27] <ziadoz> its set up to UK-GB, which is where im from :p
[11:27] <un_operateur> WebMaven, I know -- it's why i expressed surprise
[11:27] <bruenig> Kezman74, ext3, then just get the windows driver that allows you to read/write to it
[11:27] <n2diy> ziadoz, take a look in system/pref/keyboard
[11:27] <clintiepoo> Ok, I have been reading a lot about this.  I have done a lot of trial and error.  My Dell 2405FPW does not work correctly.  I have a ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]  graphics card.  Can someone please help me rewrite my xconf.org? Please?
[11:28] <puff> Damn, okay, I spoke to soon, the screen-switching problme is stll there... coming and going.
[11:28] <un_operateur> !ati | clintiepoo
[11:28] <ubotu> clintiepoo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:28] <WebMaven> un_operateur: is there anything I can do to re-do the hardware autodetection and setup?
[11:28] <clintiepoo> ok, that helps.
[11:28] <clintiepoo> thanks
[11:28] <ziadoz> n2diy, what should i be looking for in settings, everything looks ok?
[11:28] <Kezman74> clintiepoo: change to VESA will get your gui up.
[11:29] <n2diy> ziadoz, remove your keyboard setup, and then add it back in?
[11:29] <Red-Sox>  How do I change the lil symbol next to the Applications menu in Gnome?
[11:29] <Kezman74> bruenig: Yeah I think thats the way I'll go
[11:29] <clintiepoo> Kezman74: I'm not sure what that means
[11:30] <un_operateur> WebMaven, well, the autodetection has already happened -- linux has found the card -- but it just isnt setup for some reason -- and ubuntu doesnt give up easy -- so it looks like it needs manual intervention
[11:30] <ziadoz> n2diy, I still get an  symbol :\
[11:30] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:30] <n2diy> clintiepoo: GUI graphical user interface
[11:30] <Ace2016> Whats gnome's file manager called?
[11:30] <clintiepoo> Yeah, I knew that... :)  I didn't know VESA
[11:30] <bruenig> Ace2016, nautilus
[11:31] <Rydekull> a
[11:31] <MrSprout> Hello again everyone.
[11:31] <OkinawaInstructo> i am trying to access my fiber optic router but having no luck, anyone have ideas?
[11:31] <bruenig> !hi | MrBrizzio
[11:31] <ubotu> MrBrizzio: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:31] <jeeves_Moss> all:  can someone here help me with gkismet?
[11:31] <n2diy> Add a second keyboard, if it will let you, and select that one?
[11:31] <WebMaven> un_operateur: I didn't reinstall, isn't the hardware detection more thorough when you install?
[11:31] <Kezman74> clintiepoo: In xorg.conf under driver in the Device section, change whatever it is to vesa
[11:31] <MrSprout> What kernel should I be using for my core 2 duo?
[11:31] <n2diy> ziadoz, Add a second keyboard, if it will let you, and select that one?
[11:32] <ziadoz> i can put in as many keyboards as I like, but all the UK ones give me an
[11:32] <clintiepoo> it doesn't say any driver
[11:33] <Life> i will be reinstalling Ubuntu..
[11:33] <Kezman74> clintiepoo: try this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:33] <MrSprout> anyone?
[11:33] <jeeves_Moss> all:  hello anyone?
[11:33] <Kezman74> clintiepoo: when it asks you don't put ati, put vesa
[11:33] <un_operateur> WebMaven, well, yea, i would presume  -- but i cant be sure
[11:34] <clintiepoo> ok, I'll do that.
[11:34] <jeeves_Moss> MrSprout:  don't feel bad.  no one in here is up to helping anyone out.  it took me like 2 hours earlier today
[11:34] <timo901> whats up
[11:34] <timo901> Mrs
[11:34] <jbroome> jeeves_Moss: you get what you pay for
[11:34] <jeeves_Moss> timo901:  are you able to help me with this gkismet issue?
[11:35] <jeeves_Moss> jbroome:  lol, yep.  I try to help out with what little I know when I'm in here.
[11:35] <timo901> whats the issue
[11:35] <Kezman74> ok I need to reboot my XP machine, mwahahahaaaa
[11:35] <un_operateur> WebMaven, installing a card is not hard -- its quite easy really -- most vendors give you a package -- you download -- pop the driver into the src tree and run insmod -- it should be fine and dandy afterwards
[11:35] <Life> apparently i can download files while installing ubuntu
[11:35] <Life> so obviously the network is fine
[11:35] <OkinawaInstructo> MrSprout: if it helps, i am using the current one in ubuntu 6.10 and it works just fine on my computer
[11:35] <jeeves_Moss> timo901:  I'm trying to get it to run, and it's telling me that it can't find the gnome.pm file
[11:36] <MrSprout> current one?
[11:36] <MrSprout> I need a smp kernel
[11:36] <MrSprout> and I'm not sure which one to install
[11:36] <OkinawaInstructo> ok, thats a bit beyond me... i am still new at this
[11:36] <OkinawaInstructo> sorry
[11:36] <MrSprout> Should I be using linux-686-smp?
[11:37] <clintiepoo> I'm back
[11:38] <rocky> Ive installed with ubuntu my first Linux today that works fine
[11:38] <clintiepoo> That didn't work...  It looks like it is going to, then I can't log in.
[11:38] <timo901> yeh
[11:38] <tic11> join #electronics
[11:38] <rocky> but i want the Suse FUll not open Version
[11:39] <Ace2016> bruenig: where are its tabs?
[11:39] <jbroome> Ace2016: wrong place
[11:39] <clintiepoo> any suggestions?  I'm not sure what to do.
[11:39] <jbroome> err, rocky wrong place
[11:39] <Ace2016> wrong place?
[11:39] <bruenig> Ace2016, there aren't any
[11:39] <clintiepoo> the resolution changes for the boot screen, and then will not let me log in.
[11:39] <Ace2016> oh
[11:39] <jbroome> sorry Ace2016, my eyes crossed and was responding to the wrong person
[11:39] <Ace2016> its ok
[11:39] <rocky> i know sry
[11:40] <n2diy> MrSprout: along as it is not a plain pentium system, I running smp. i686 with 333mhz PIIIs.
[11:40] <rocky> that i have broken the terms
[11:40] <rocky> sry
[11:40] <drowner> hello guys
[11:41] <x-r00t-x> can anyone tell me how do i make my terminal so colorful?
[11:41] <Ace2016> hello
[11:41] <clintiepoo> so has anyone had this happen before.  I try to change my screen configuration and it won't let me log in after I do. (not graphically)
[11:41] <x-r00t-x> text
[11:41] <drowner> i'm wondering if anybody could possibly help me? I'm sorry to be such a nuisance.
[11:41] <Ace2016> colourful like that?
[11:42] <Ace2016> i mean like what?
[11:42] <djtansey> i hope someone can help me. how do you use the command line to forward entire local mailboxes to another address?
[11:42] <luca> v
[11:42] <Life> djtansey: ubuntu doesnt control mail
[11:42] <snacks> i blacklisted my netgear wg121 under edgy now i don't know what to do
[11:42] <mnoir> drowner: not unless you ask a question without whining
[11:42] <karakara> yabuntew
[11:43] <clintiepoo> I have tried many different configurations.  They look like they are going to work, but alas and alack they do not.
[11:43] <djtansey> Life: ... i don't know exactly what you mean. you mean this chatroom? i use exim as my mail server.
[11:43] <drowner> ok. I'm having an awful amount of trouble getting my wireless card to work. ndiswrapper, madwifi.... i get nothing. Nothing!
[11:43] <clintiepoo> I have an $800 computer monitor and can only use 1028x788
[11:43] <aa> clintiepoo  8 8 6
[11:43] <snacks> >	i blacklisted my netgear wg121 under edgy now i don't know what to do
[11:44] <karakara> i used ndiswrapper 1.8, worked well
[11:44] <zspada15> clintiepoo, perhaps a sync problem?
[11:44] <drowner> karakara: mines struggling. i have the correct driver installed with ndiswrapper, but nothings happening...
[11:45] <WebMaven> un_operateur: well, I swapped cards around a bit, everything works again.
[11:45] <clintiepoo> I'm not sure what it could be.  I searched last night for the ranges for the Dell 2405FPW, and put these into xorg.conf.  It still does the same thing.
[11:45] <karakara> check dmesg?
[11:45] <WebMaven> un_operateur: thanks for your help.
[11:45] <snacks> i blacklisted my netgear wg121 wireless carunder edgy now i don't know what to do
[11:45] <zspada15> clintiepoo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:45] <snacks> i blacklisted my netgear wg121 wireless card under edgy now i don't know what to do
[11:46] <karakara> mine showed up in iwconfig as soon as ndiswrapper ate thi win32 driver
[11:46] <clintiepoo> Izspada15:ave done that several times.  I'm just not getting it right.
[11:46] <clintiepoo> I'm not sure what the problem is.  I tried using modelines (I think) too...
[11:47] <zspada15> clintiepoo, make sure you read dells specs to the monitor, and when you configure match the highest spec exactly
[11:47] <MrSprout> When I try to boot the generic kernel from my boot loader my system fails to run xserver and hangs.
[11:47] <MrSprout> any ideas?
[11:47] <rb_laptop> snacks: do a locate blacklist ... any config file showup? what's in it? maybe that is the way to remove that device from the blacklist?
[11:47] <derek_> Hi
[11:47] <zero> j #ubuntu-es
[11:48] <Gosha> hey, someone native english guy here? ( NOT related to ubuntu or linux at all ( but i still need help from one ) )
[11:48] <zspada15> MrSprout, do you have a blinking terminal cursor or just a blank screen?
[11:48] <zspada15> Gosha, sure
[11:48] <derek_> bruenig: Liferea doesn't give any notification
[11:48] <MrSprout> blinking terminal thingy
[11:48] <bruenig> derek_, yes it does
[11:48] <Gosha> zsprada15, heard "the light before us"?
[11:48] <bruenig> derek_, make sure it is running.
[11:48] <Gosha> pada*
[11:48] <zspada15> MrSprout, ok, type gdm
[11:48] <steven> join #network
[11:48] <zspada15> Gosha, i dont think
[11:48] <Gosha> can you recieve it?
[11:49] <zspada15> Gosha, why?
[11:49] <MrSprout> zspada15, that it?
[11:49] <derek_> bruenig: It is running
[11:49] <Life> for a server, which kernel should i use
[11:49] <zspada15> MrSprout, what happened?
[11:49] <bruenig> derek_, you mustn't have gotten any new stories
[11:49] <Life> linux-image-2.6.17-10-server?
[11:49] <zspada15> Life, yes
[11:49] <iKs> Hey :)
[11:49] <derek_> bruenig: hm
[11:49] <MrSprout> an error message came up saying xserver couldnt be started
[11:49] <Gosha> zspada15, since i wanna know what you hear .. since it's hard to know .. and the lyrics page is wierd
[11:49] <zspada15> MrSprout, whats the rest of the error
[11:49] <Life> haha guessed so
[11:49] <MrSprout> then a blinking terminal prompt
[11:49] <derek_> bruenig: give a very active rss link :)
[11:50] <iKs> We need someone to set this bug's importance : https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/76785
[11:50] <MrSprout> would just typing gdm do something?
[11:50] <bruenig> http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_topstories.rss
[11:50] <zspada15> MrSprout, try typing "gdm" and hit return
[11:50] <MrSprout> ok, thanks
[11:50] <MrSprout> and brb
[11:51] <Gosha> right after "dont wake me up without a master plan"
[11:51] <steven> I would like to set up a firewall with a dchp server for the local network, how can I configure my primary (wan) interface so that he uses the dhcp server from my isp?
[11:51] <Lam_> when i run $shutdown -h or $shutdown -P, it doesn't completely power down my system. i can hear the hard drive spin down but the fans are still going
[11:51] <zspada15> Lam_, try sudo shutdown -h now
[11:52] <snacks> rb_laptop, i did a locate blacklist, and 4 config files show up that contain blacklist
[11:52] <liberion> hey guys is there a package for FretsonFire yet?
[11:52] <Lam_> zspada15: already tried that
[11:52] <rb_laptop> snacks: try looking in this one ... /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:52] <Gosha> Lam_ use the scissor, but the chord :D
[11:52] <Gosha> cut*
[11:52] <zspada15> Lam_, if all else fails, rember raising skinny elephants is utterly boring :P
[11:53] <SpacePuppy> Lam_: when you get bored of raising skinny elephants, you may want to look at the power setting in the BIOS
[11:53] <derek_> bruenig: does liferea understand opml file?
[11:53] <snacks> rb_laptop i added islsm, islsm_usb, islsm_device, ieee80211softmac, ieee80211, ieee80211_crypt to the blacklist
[11:53] <Life> okay pinging out to other servers work
[11:53] <bruenig> derek_, not sure, I don't use rss feeds, except web based ones like google home page
[11:54] <cmweb> Any one use keep? I am having problems making a folder for the backup
[11:55] <MrSprout> Whoever it was helping me before, typing gdm didn't do anything.
[11:55] <cmweb> I think this room went dead
[11:56] <Stone321> MrSprout whats the problem
[11:56] <MrSprout> Ok
[11:56] <Zaggynl> I'm trying to get xcdroast to burn dvd's I ran the setup, I installed DVD+-RW/R tools, but xcdroast still doesn't show me any dvd burning options
[11:56] <MrSprout> I have a core 2 duo processor.
[11:56] <cmweb> ok i was wrong
[11:56] <MrSprout> and I'm running a non SMP kernel
[11:56] <MrSprout> so I cant use both cores.
[11:56] <MrSprout> I'm trying to find out which kernel I should be running
[11:56] <MrSprout> to use both cores.
[11:56] <MrSprout> and then trying to set that up successfully.
[11:56] <Stone321> !smp
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <Zaggynl> !prodvd
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prodvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <n2diy> MrSprout:  I told you to get one through synaptic, did you try that?
[11:57] <Stone321> MrSprout its 686 kernel now i think  search linux-686
[11:57] <Nontitle> gdm doesn't do anything... sudo /etc/init.d/gdm [start|stop|restart]  will do something
[11:57] <MrSprout> n2diy, yes.
[11:57] <MrSprout> I installed one called linux-686-smp
[11:57] <MrSprout> but It's not booting it
[11:57] <magic_ninja> my mouse is going on and off and its effecting everything i do, i use 6.10
[11:57] <n2diy> MrSprout: and what happened?
[11:57] <MrSprout> and i'm not sure how do make it do so
[11:57] <Life> hi, for some reason i can make connections to other servers, however i can not make connections to my server
[11:58] <MrSprout> I'm booting a 386 kernel right now.
[11:58] <n2diy> MrSprout: did you reboot?
[11:58] <MrSprout> Yes.
[11:58] <Stone321> MrSprout : sudo update-grub
[11:58] <snacks> rb_laptop, any other ideas
[11:58] <MrSprout> done stone321
[11:58] <Stone321> it should be on aout , anyway whats in /boot MrSprout
[11:58] <MrSprout> ??
[11:59] <MrSprout> I'm new to all this.. I dont understand.
[11:59] <rb_laptop> snacks: those devices aren't in that config file?
[11:59] <cmweb> Any one use keep? I am having problems making a folder for the backup
[11:59] <n2diy> MrSprout: you still need to re-boot.
[11:59] <Stone321> and you mgight paste on bastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst  MrSprout
[11:59] <snacks> rb_laptop, which devices
[11:59] <MrSprout> n2diy, I've rebooted so many times
[11:59] <rb_laptop> the ones u blacklisted
[11:59] <clintiepoo> ok, I'm back
[11:59] <MrSprout> and it loads the same kernel.
[11:59] <clintiepoo> still problems
[11:59] <magic_ninja> my mouse is going on and off and its effecting everything i do, i use 6.10
[11:59] <MrSprout> the 686 one doesn't even appear on the list of kernels
[11:59] <clintiepoo> I use vesa as my audio card type
[12:00] <MrSprout> only the 386 and the generic linux kernel
[12:00] <derek_> bruenig: It is getting new feeds but not giving any popup notifications
[12:00] <dibblego> when I create links on my GNOME panel, where are the settings saved on the disk? I thought it would be somewhere in ~ but it does not seem to be the case?
[12:00] <MrSprout> the generic one wont load because xserver fails to start.
[12:00] <derek_> bruenig: did you add something to the panel for it?
[12:00] <Stone321> !pastebin | MrSprout
[12:00] <ubotu> MrSprout: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <clintiepoo> I reconfigure, using 30-81 khz as horiz sync and 60-60 khz as vertical (some modes are only available at 60 hz).  It still does not let me log back in to ubuntu with x.
[12:00] <Stone321> MrSprout paste : ls -la /boot
[12:00] <Nontitle> i just installed grub-splashimages and did a sudo grub-update, it says none found
[12:01] <clintiepoo> I'm stuck


[18:37] <qwebirc95589> Hello, i am new to mythtv, have a dedicated backend and a frontend. Im having two issues, seems like the recordings i set are skipping commericals in wrong places then the episode ends half way through. Also recordings are being set to auto-expire along with live tv, show it be this way or should just live tv be set to autoexpire.. thank you in advanced
[18:43] <tgm4883> qwebirc95589, when you setup a recording rule, you can set whether you want it to autoexpire or not
[18:44] <qwebirc95589> ok so its normal for recordings to autoexpire? i was just thinking it was for live tv and i had somethign messed up
[18:44] <tgm4883> as for the commercial skipping, commercial flagging isn't perfect. I'd imaging there are only certain types of shows (or certain shows) that you are seeing that bad behavior on?
[18:44] <tgm4883> qwebirc95589, it's normal. LiveTV expires before recordings. And recordings expire based on watched vs unwatched and weighted priority
[18:45] <tgm4883> all of that is configurable, but IIRC those are the OOTB settings
[18:45] <qwebirc95589> ya i mean sometimes it works great, sometimes not.. i turn commerical skipping off so that should be ok
[18:46] <tgm4883> qwebirc95589, it's it's only certain shows, then you can turn off commercial flagging for just that recording schedule
[18:46] <qwebirc95589> when its set to transcode does that remove all the commericals it detects? could that be why my recording are only half of the episodes?
[18:47] <tgm4883> yea I think transcoding removes commercials
[18:48] <qwebirc95589> ok that makes since.
[18:48] <qwebirc95589> thank you so much for your help
[18:48] <tgm4883> yw
[18:49] <qwebirc95589> would u happen to know if theres a way to change the name of the recording file?
[18:49] <tgm4883> qwebirc95589, change it, no. You could use mythlink to make it a nicer name
[18:50] <qwebirc95589> ok, do you have a myth setup? just wondering if its a good long term solution
[18:51] <tgm4883> yea I've had one for 5+ years
[18:51] <tgm4883> which I've upgraded over time
[18:52] <qwebirc95589> i want to get rid of my cable box completely, ive just been running into issues (which im working through slowly), just wondering if things will be better.. lol
[18:52] <tgm4883> who is your cable provider?
[18:52] <qwebirc95589> comcast
[18:52] <tgm4883> I just moved to cable card and got rid of my HDPVR
[18:52] <tgm4883> I've got comcast too
[18:53] <qwebirc95589> have u every tried watching recordings on a ps3?
[18:53] <tgm4883> qwebirc95589, nope, although it should be doable providing the ps3 can play back mpeg2-ts recordings
[18:53] <tgm4883> I've got to run, be back later if you have more questions
[18:54] <qwebirc95589> ok, thank you :)
[19:57] <qwebirc95589> can anyone help me setup Mythlink?
[19:59] <SteveGoodey> qwebirc95589: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythlink.pl
[19:59] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Mythlink.pl - MythTV Official Wiki
[20:01] <qwebirc95589> is it just a matter of adding the script to like a user job? is there anything that needs to be installed first?
[20:03] <SteveGoodey> On that page it mentions perl modules.
[20:04] <qwebirc95589> ok missed that. got it.. thank you
[21:33] <danielk22> OT: Anyone know if there is an ubuntu tv channel? Or can just answer if ubuntu tv can be built on 12.04, it looks like it requires 11.10 packages..
[21:34] <tgm4883> danielk22, yes there is, it's #ubuntu-tv  but to answer your question, ubuntu tv is transistioning to Unity 3d from unity 2d (because 2d is deprecated) so there isn't much to do with it yet
[21:34] <tgm4883> IDK if it's even usable ATM
[21:34] <tgm4883> danielk22, for weekly info updates, www.doadjustyourset.com
[21:35] <danielk22> tgm4883: Thanks! I don't need it to be usable, just wanted to take a look at it.


[12:42] <BenC> dilinger: probably about two weeks unless some nasty security issue comes up
[12:43] <dilinger> oh, ok
[12:43] <mjg59> BenC: I sent you a couple of patches
[12:43] <mjg59> Did you get those?
[12:43] <mjg59> (Some time last week)
[12:43] <dilinger> guess i'm sticking w/ the git checkout, then; i'm be working for a different company by then
[12:43] <dilinger> thanks
[12:43] <BenC> mjg59: don't show them, but I had issues last week with email
[12:43] <BenC> mjg59: can you resend?
[12:43] <mjg59> BenC: Sure
[12:43] <BenC> thanks
[12:44] <BenC> mjg59: Might be better to send them to kernel-team@
[12:44] <BenC> either way is fine though
[12:44] <mjg59> BenC: Will do in future
[12:44] <mjg59> On their way to you now
[03:37] <zul_> BenC: ping did you do anything special for ipw3945?
[07:42] <BenC> infinity: ping
[07:42] <infinity> BenC: pong
[07:42] <BenC> infinity: I have a lrm <IP_ADDRESS>-1 upload pending
[07:43] <BenC> it contains a crap load of changes for the new kernel flavours plus vmware-player modules
[07:43] <infinity> Oh, we got the clickwrap removed?  Yay.
[07:43] <BenC> there was never a click-wrap on the kernel modules, just the player itself
[07:43] <infinity> Can you put it somewhere, and I'll roll new fglrx crap into it as well, and upload for you?
[07:43] <BenC> kbyrd ok'd the inclusion, and I checked the package, and he was right
[07:44] <infinity> Yeah, no idea why they originally did it seperately, then.  Oh well.
[07:44] <infinity> Did you add their license to the incresingly huge debian/copyright?
[07:44] <BenC> I can give you access while I'm in germany (willing to bet the hotel has better upload b/w than I do)
[07:44] <BenC> not yet, but will
[07:44] <BenC> just got the build working and tested
[07:45] <BenC> I don't plan on doing the next kernel upload till next week, so that's when lrm will get uploaded to
[07:45] <infinity> Oh, then I guess I can do my LRM changes now, then.
[07:45] <infinity> And you'll just have to re-roll your .orig to include them. :P
[07:45] <BenC> no!!
[07:45] <infinity> (Or, trickle that upload at chinstrap now, and I'll just tidy up)
[07:45] <BenC> there's lots more changes than just the orig :P
[07:46] <infinity> Oh, but it matches the new kernel.  Right.
[07:46] <infinity> Feh.
[07:46] <infinity> Stupid renames and such.
[07:46] <BenC> yeah, but it's actually a lot cleaner
[07:46] <infinity> Well, I want the new fglrx to happen soon, so I guess we have no choice but to merge later.
[07:46] <BenC> basically just a new tarball for fglrx?
[07:47] <infinity> Assuming it builds, yes.
[07:47] <BenC> I can merge your changes into mine (easier than merging mine into yours :)
[07:47] <infinity> Yeah.
[07:47] <infinity> My changes will be minimal.
[07:47] <infinity> New tarballs, changelog, maybe a tweak to debian/rules, and maybe a patch or two.
[07:47] <infinity> But nothing big.
[07:48] <BenC> I can incr diff -1 and -2, so no biggy
[07:48] <infinity> Well, .3-1 and .4-1, but yeah. :)
[07:48] <infinity> (Since it's a new .orig both times)
[07:48] <infinity> Whee.
[07:49] <BenC> oh, duh
[07:49] <BenC> so you're still not coming to wiesbaden?
[07:49] <infinity> Yeah.  Just can't do it right now, sadly.
[07:49] <infinity> I'll be at the next conf, with bells on.
[07:49] <infinity> Perhaps literally.
[07:50] <BenC> I'll see if I can find a place that serves "Massive Destruction Weapon's" and drink one for you :)
[07:50] <infinity> I don't even remember what was in it..
[07:50] <infinity> It was like a Long Island with a shot of Kahlua or something.
[07:50] <BenC> probably a good idea not to remember what was in that thing
[07:50] <infinity> Not bad, just not ideal to have 6 in a row.
[07:50] <BenC> especially since I think the bartender started making it up
[07:51] <infinity> I'm seriously never going to live that down, am I?
[07:51] <infinity> shawarma keeps poking fun at me for those things too.
[07:52] <infinity> The dude had almost as many as I did, so I'm don't think he has a leg to stand on.
[07:52] <infinity> s/I'm/I/
[08:33] <lifeless> it does not sound like either of you had legs to stand on:)
[08:33] <BenC> infinity: it was definitely a funny site...wish I had stuck around till you made it into the bathroom and scared the janitor :)
[01:11] <zul> hey
[01:34] <Keybuk> Recent changes to -mm include a reworking of the serial ATA configuration options ("If you blindly run `make oldconfig' you won't have any disks.")
[01:34] <Keybuk> mmmm
[01:49] <infinity> Keybuk: Awesome.
[01:55] <Keybuk> http://lwn.net/Articles/194866/
[01:56] <Keybuk> interesting
[04:27] <zul> hey kbyrd
[04:28] <kbyrd> hey zul.
[07:32] <mdz> BenC: please remember to update all of the seeds approximately in sync with the kernel renames
[08:06] <BenC> mdz: Can I do that, or does someone else need to?
[08:12] <mdz> BenC: you can do that
[08:12] <BenC> mdz: ok, but I don't know how :)
[08:12] <BenC> is it a package?
[08:13] <mdz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
[08:14] <BenC> thanks
[09:48] <zul> later..
[09:55] <AnAnt_> BenC: you there ?
[09:56] <BenC> AnAnt: yes
[09:57] <AnAnt_> BenC: ok, I wanted to suggest some things
[09:57] <AnAnt_> BenC: using latest version of ipw2200 instead of the one supplied with the kernel
[09:57] <AnAnt_> BenC: the one supplied is 1.1.1 , while latest is 1.1.3
[09:59] <AnAnt_> BenC: and same for ieee80211 driver
[09:59] <BenC> please file a bug report for that against linux-source-2.6.17
[09:59] <BenC> ieee80211 probably wont be updated
[09:59] <AnAnt_> why's that ?
[09:59] <BenC> too many wireless drivers are dependent on it
[10:00] <AnAnt_> oic
[10:00] <AnAnt_> so ?
[10:00] <BenC> updating it tends to break existing drivers
[10:00] <AnAnt_> oh ok
[10:00] <AnAnt_> BenC: btw, my MMC card reader used to work in dapper
[10:00] <AnAnt_> I tried knot1 and it didn't work
[10:00] <BenC> do you have certain reasons for these suggestions?
[10:00] <BenC> ok, please file a bug about that too
[10:01] <BenC> attach dmesg from dapper and edgy boots
[10:01] <AnAnt_> BenC: well, I needed to run aircrack-ng
[10:01] <BenC> what is that?
[10:01] <mjg59> BenC: We dropped support for TI parts in the sdhci driver and you haven't merged the replacement yet
[10:01] <BenC> mjg59: is that your patch?
[10:02] <mjg59> Yes
[10:02] <AnAnt_> BenC: and I found on the website, that to inject packets, I have to use the latest ieee80211 & ipw2200 driver (and also patch ipw2200 driver )
[10:03] <AnAnt_> aircrack-ng: Wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities
[10:03] <BenC> AnAnt: what constitutes "latest" for ieee80211?
[10:03] <BenC> because we have a fairly recent version in edgy
[10:03] <AnAnt_> BenC: the one I got is 1.1.14
[10:04] <AnAnt_> the one in edgy is git-1.1.7
[10:04] <BenC> no, the one in edgy is git-1.1.13
[10:04] <BenC> include/net/ieee80211.h:#define IEEE80211_VERSION "git-1.1.13"
[10:05] <AnAnt_> mjg59: you mean TI card readers won't be supported anymore ?
[10:05] <BenC> AnAnt: no, he means we lost the patch that enabled support, it just needs to be reapplied
[10:05] <AnAnt_> BenC: maybe that was after Knot1 ?
[10:05] <AnAnt_> oh ok
[10:05] <BenC> very possible, but if you install Knot1, and then upgrade to latest, you should be good
[10:05] <AnAnt_> so do I still need to file a bug report on that MMC matter ?
[10:06] <mjg59> No
[10:06] <AnAnt_> ok
[10:06] <BenC> mjg59: I don't see a TI patch in sdhci's git history
[10:07] <mjg59> BenC: We shipped one in dapper
[10:07] <AnAnt_> BenC: ok, I'll try using ipw2200-1.1.3 with the ieee80211 that is in edgy
[10:07] <mjg59> It did mad fudging to a bit in pci config space if there was a TI card
[10:07] <BenC> fudge_ti() ? :)
[10:07] <mjg59> But now there's a separate driver for the part instead
[10:08] <BenC> so your patch will add that separate driver, I understand now
[10:08] <BenC> AnAnt: your TI sdhci should be fixed in the next edgy kernel, no need to file a bug
[10:08] <BenC> mjg59: both your patches are for edgy?
[10:09] <AnAnt_> back to the ipw2200, is it possible to add that patch (that enables injection) too ?
[10:09] <BenC> AnAnt: I'll see about updating ipw2200 as well
[10:09] <BenC> depends on how intrusive and ugly it is
[10:10] <mjg59> BenC: Both?
[10:10] <BenC> send it to me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:10] <mjg59> BenC: Oh, everything I've sent is for edgy, yes
[10:10] <BenC> mjg59: I have two patches from you right now
[10:10] <BenC> ok
[10:10] <AnAnt_> what do you mean by "intrusive" ?
[10:14] <BenC> I mean it changes too much
[10:14] <AnAnt_> ok
[10:14] <BenC> plus I need to be sure it isn't opening up any security issues...that sort of patch is tricky
[10:15] <AnAnt_> ok
[10:15] <AnAnt_> where do I file the request ?
[10:15] <BenC> just email me the patch<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:16] <BenC> I'll give it a quick review
[10:16] <AnAnt_> ok
[10:22] <AnAnt_> BenC: sent
[10:22] <AnAnt_> thanks  !
[11:57] <crimsun> BenC: thanks for the merges!