[00:00] <dreux> ok thank you I should be able to do the rest
[00:00] <hiku> Xubuntu_Newb: well, you will want to make sure that ld knows where to find the libs if you build them as symbolic
[00:00] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Cmdr_W_T_Riker, still what if i wanted that config anyways and i was planning to install fedora AFTER ubuntu, it makes no sense.
[00:00] <Xubuntu_Newb> But since the dependencies are system-wide it doesn't matter if I have them anyway right?
[00:00] <hiku> Xubuntu_Newb: if you build it static, then yes, your all good to go
[00:00] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> asdfasdfasdfasdf: agreed
[00:00] <Jordan_U> asdfasdfasdfasdf: There is an "advanced" button on the last screen of the installer.
[00:01] <turt1e> latagore, multi tasking!!!!   so I take it you have a cable connected to the ethernet controller.  does ifconfig show that eth0 is getting any valid ip numbers?
[00:01] <bastidrazor> asdfasdfasdfasdf: Vbox is completely different than doing an actual install. in Vbox the entire OS is kept in a single file on the box. when doing a real install you will have the option to put grub where ever you want( the final step during the install process) also you can keep your current grub and add Ubuntu to it. if you so choose.
[00:01] <hiku> Xubuntu_Newb: yes, if the deps are system wide, then you should be fine. give it a go and see how you get along.
[00:01] <Maahes> ......Where would I make a complaint about a stupid package resolution problem in apt?
[00:01] <Maahes> wait.
[00:01] <Maahes> nevermind
[00:01] <Maahes> I'm an idiot
[00:01] <Xubuntu_Newb> All right thank you both very much for your help :)
[00:01] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Jordan_U, didn't see that grub config options are there?
[00:01] <latagore> turt1e: D: The ethernet cable I connected to that laptop was the cable attached to this computer
[00:01] <hiku> Xubuntu_Newb: anytime =)
[00:01] <Jordan_U> asdfasdfasdfasdf: Yes.
[00:01] <Maahes> or at least I think I am
[00:02] <spasysheep> is it safe to overwrite a drive with zeros using dd, or will I kill the drive?
[00:02] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> bastidrazor, so? what the os really see is a working hard drive. when i ran FEdora i had the option and so on.
[00:02] <latagore> turt1e: I mean I'd be glad to rip it out... it's just that I can't have both computers on at the same time
[00:02] <hiku> spasysheep: it's fine
[00:02] <Maahes> removing the metapackage ubuntu-desktop, does that then make apt want to delete my whole system any time I upgrade, etc?
[00:02] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> bastidrazor, the OS beeing held inside host should not know that its beeing run inside a virtual machine.
[00:02] <Maahes> like it used to?
[00:02] <hiku> Maahes: no, I've done that and then re-installed ubuntu-desktop and all was fine
[00:03] <Maahes> eh.....oh well, I'll just play crawl without sdl tiles enabled
[00:03] <bastidrazor> asdfasdfasdfasdf: if you do a real install, not in a VM, you will see the options for grub, like Jordan_U stated.
[00:04] <latagore> Maahes: Crawl as in DungeonCrawl? =o
[00:04] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> ok
[00:04] <spasysheep> hiku: ok... I suppose if it isnt there's always insurance
[00:04] <turt1e> latagore, I see....  what kind of laptop, and what is the lspci info for the wireless adapter?
[00:04] <hiku> spasysheep: =)
[00:04] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> and last question should i upgrade installer before installing or just use the default one. i fear for unknown new bugs or bad upgrading  could cause problems with the install if i do upgrade..
[00:05] <bastidrazor> asdfasdfasdfasdf: 10.04 ubuntu uses grub2, it is very different to grub. please read the !grub2 factoid
[00:05] <spasysheep> hiku: should i use if=/dev/null or /dev/zero?
[00:05] <bastidrazor> !grub2 | asdfasdfasdfasdf
[00:05] <latagore> turt1e: Netbook, and all it says is Broadcom Corporation Device for wireless
[00:05] <hiku> spasysheep: zero
[00:06] <hiku> spasysheep: /dev/null is nothing...it's void... black hole.
[00:06] <latagore> turt1e: Once I get wireless working, I can get on IRC and connect the ethernet cable on the laptop
[00:06] <Hounddog> now this is weird....
[00:06] <spasysheep> hiku: kkty
[00:06] <hiku> spasysheep: your welcoem
[00:06] <hiku> *welcoem
[00:06] <hiku> lol welcome
[00:07] <Adriannom> anyone?
[00:07] <turt1e> latagore, uhggg.... netbook
[00:07] <hiku> !ask | Adriannom
[00:07] <Hounddog> i have a system... i installed ubuntu-server and debian and both of them get stuck in "loading operating system" now i still had a image for my pxe server from ubuntu desktop... just pushed it on the system... works
[00:07] <Adriannom> hiku, already asked
[00:07] <Adriannom> hi.  is it possible to rsync a home dir between several machines?  i.e. if i delete a file on my local machine it gets deleted on my server and other workstations
[00:07] <latagore> turt1e: I like the speed; good enough for me =o
[00:07] <Adriannom> hi again hiku ;)
[00:07] <hiku> Adriannom: hmm, I must be having lagg, I didn't see it
[00:07] <hiku> Adriannom: ohla
[00:07] <Hounddog> and it is an installation....
[00:07] <Maahes> latagore: as in DCSS yep
[00:08] <latagore> turt1e: is there a big problem with it?
[00:08] <Hounddog> harddrive clone... wth?
[00:08] <latagore> Maahes: D: Never heard of DCSS. To google!
[00:08] <Maahes> the version in the repos is the no longer being developed dungeon crawl
[00:08] <Hounddog> does anyone have an idea?
[00:08] <Adriannom> hiku, i've been reading and trying out those articles you linked me to for rsync+ssh, but i can't seem to find out how to make deletes propagate sensibly
[00:08] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> bastidrazor, cool does it finally support themes with more quality images?
[00:08] <Hounddog> is there something different in grub between ubuntu and ubuntu server?
[00:08] <latagore> Maahes: I noticed. Didn't think I'd find another ASCII dungeon crawler :p
[00:08] <hiku> Adriannom: deletes with the --delete option ? it's not working?
[00:08] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> nvm i got to the bottom of that page :D
[00:09] <Adriannom> hiku, sure, but isn't that one way?
[00:09] <Maahes> dungeon crawl stone soup has a sdl-tiles version, and I was pondering building it
[00:09] <bastidrazor> asdfasdfasdfasdf: best of luck :)
[00:09] <Maahes> latagore: if you haven't checked out doomrl you should ^_^
[00:09] <Adriannom> hiku, so if i delete on a local machine, how do the other workstations know not to upload the file again?
[00:09] <hiku> Adriannom: yes. src->dest (src having orig files, and if you remove it, then the dest should remove it to).
[00:09] <Maahes> and dwarf fortress, but dwarft fortress is too much for the machine I'm working on
[00:09] <latagore> Maahes: My brother goes on it, haven't checked it out myself
[00:10] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> bastidrazor, any idea with the upgrade installer question?
[00:10] <Squarism> where do i place icon packs?
[00:10] <Hounddog> anyhow... i give up for now
[00:10] <Maahes> latagore: doomrl is a really fun coffeebreak rl. Dwarf Fortress......is...well....dwarf fortress. The most complicated and hard roguelike around.
[00:10] <hiku> Adriannom: you need to have a so called master node that does the pulling (or pushing). so if your workstations are syncing data to a central server, then would also need to use the --delete option
[00:11] <turt1e> latagore, not really... It just seems getting wireless working on the netbooks seems to be a common problem.  could just be my perception though
[00:11] <latagore> Maahes: I've heard of it
[00:11] <latagore> turt1e: Is it a common problem that can be fixed? >_< xD
[00:11] <hiku> Adriannom: example. I rsync my centos updates from kernel.org, I use the --delete option just incase they remove a package, then I don't want that in my repo.
[00:11] <Maahes> another really cool game, that's sort of like a rogue like, crossed with a old-school platformer action game. Is Spelunky. I have yet to get past level 6 in spelunky, out of 20-some odd levels
[00:12] <latagore> Maahes: I actually started it up once; took an hour to generate the world; way too long for me
[00:12] <bastidrazor> asdfasdfasdfasdf: if you have the chance to use the latest installer, 10.04.1, i would go with the newer.. but that is just my way of thinking.
[00:12] <Squarism> where do i place gnome icon packs?
[00:12] <latagore> Maahes: Perhaps it's time for whispers
[00:12] <Maahes> true ^_^
[00:13] <Adriannom> hiku, ok so i have a server and 3 workstations, which does the pushing or pulling with --delete?
[00:13] <VCoolio> Squarism: extract to ~/.icons or /usr/share/icons
[00:13] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> ok thanks bastidrazor
[00:13] <Adriannom> hiku, the server?
[00:13] <VCoolio> Squarism: or drag the .tar.gz into the appearance window
[00:13] <hiku> Adriannom: does the server pull the data from the clients or the other way around?
[00:13] <turt1e> latagore, I'm sure it probably can,  just not sure if I will be much help.  Never tried the netbooks.   is it the netbook edition of ubuntu you are running?
[00:14] <hiku> Adriannom: if the server is pulling, then the server needs to have --delete, if not, then the clients do when pushing
[00:14] <Squarism> VCoolio, ah thanks.. what about GDM / login screens.. where do they go?
[00:14] <latagore> turt1e: How would I know? I installed this computer and my netbook with the same version
[00:14] <VCoolio> Squarism: doesn't work anymore, gdm2 now, not as configurable yet
[00:15] <Adriannom> hiku, i think i'm missing something fundamental here.  so let's say i handle it all on the clients.  do i need to do more than one rsync?
[00:15] <hiku> Adriannom: a really cool setup is passwordless ssh sessions with rsync, then the server could pull from the clients(workstations)
[00:15] <Adriannom> push+pull
[00:15] <VCoolio> Squarism: search for gdm2setup on launchpad.net, you can set gtk theme and icon theme for it and the background
[00:15] <hiku> Adriannom: no, if each client is pushing data to the server and I'm assuming each client is placing that data in a different location, then the client will need to add the -delete option.
[00:16] <turt1e> latagore, then it's probably the desktop version.  you would have had to specify on the ubuntu home page that you wanted to download the netbook edition.  what model netbook btw?
[00:16] <Adriannom> hiku, no, all workstations are sharing the same home dir, that's the problem
[00:16] <hiku> Adriannom: hmm, same /home like a central nfs /home dir right
[00:17] <bonks> How do I install a .deb?
[00:17] <latagore> turt1e: Acer AspireOne 521
[00:17] <hiku> Adriannom: if that's the case, then just pick 1 client to do the rsync.
[00:17] <xangua> bonks: just double clic on it, what deb¿ is better install from repository
[00:17] <bonks> xangua: virtualbox isn't available in the repository
[00:18] <Adriannom> hiku, yup.
[00:18] <xangua> bonks: yes it is
[00:18] <Adriannom> hiku, ok so c1 (client 1) rsyncs to server.  then what?
[00:18] <bonks> xangua: I get this error: Package virtualbox is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package virtualbox has no installation candidate
[00:19] <xangua> bonks: if you are trying to install the deb. make sure you downloaded it from vbox official web
[00:19] <Adriannom> hiku, how does c2 and c3 sync?
[00:19] <hiku> Adriannom: do this. type man rsync, then type /delete and then use the arrow keys and scroll down a bit. there are 5 delete options to choose from
[00:19] <xangua> bonks: install virtualbox-ose or vboxgtk
[00:20] <Adriannom> hiku, i've read the manual on delete, but it's one way, this is the problem i'm having... the one way
[00:20] <hiku> Adriannom: no it's not 1 way, there is --delete-before         receiver deletes before transfer (default)
[00:20] <Adriannom> hiku, oh?
[00:20] <bonks> xangua: ah ok i tried to install virtualbox-3.2.
[00:20]  * Adriannom rereads
[00:21] <hiku> Adriannom: man rsync again and search for delete =)
[00:21] <bonks> xangua: how do I view available packages that match "v*box" so I can search for them in the future?
[00:21] <Adriannom> hiku, yeah, so the client sends the command to delete, the server deletes, then on the next rsync from another client the file is uploaded again right?
[00:22] <Adriannom> hiku, unless i pull from each client before i push, but then i'd lose changes :s
[00:23] <mickster04> why was i just kicked?
[00:23] <Adriannom> hiku, someone just recommended unison to me.  looks like it'll work
[00:23] <hiku> Adriannom: yup... that too =)
[00:23] <Adriannom> hiku, ah cool, thanks for the help anyway :)
[00:23] <hiku> Adriannom: totally forgot about that
[00:24] <hiku> Adriannom: np
[00:25] <mickster04> i just moved to another channel even tho i registewred ages ago and have identified this session
[00:25] <mickster04> ?
[00:27] <turt1e> latagore, does your netbook have a physical switch to turn the wirelss on by chance?
[00:28] <latagore> turt1e: Yes, but my netbook doesn't have an indicator whether it's on or not >_>
[00:28] <latagore> turt1e: I can try it now
[00:29] <latagore> turt1e: If we do anything to change around the wireless, then I have to remember to try it in both states
[00:30] <turt1e> latagore, ok...  after you do check ifconfig and see if wlan0 shows up
[00:31] <latagore> turt1e: Nothing
[00:31] <dreux> same for me
[00:31] <dreux> I get eth0 and lo
[00:31] <blizzow1> I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge (13" AMD version).  The internal bluetooth adapter is no longer available as of the last two kernel updates.  I'm hoping it's just a fail on the ubuntu kernel modules and not something wrong with my adapter.  Has anyone else seen issues with bluetooth in Lucid lately?
[00:31] <turt1e> dreux,  are you on a netbook as well?
[00:31] <dreux> yup
[00:31] <wickedSA> missing driver
[00:31] <blizzow1> I believe it's a broadcom based bluetooth adapter.
[00:32] <niglop> which program can i cut mp3 files and merge them togethar with?
[00:33] <latagore> blizzow1: Now 3 people have the same problem :]
[00:33] <turt1e> latagore, so do you get a network symbol in the top bar next to the sound and date?
[00:33] <dreux> i do
[00:33] <latagore> turt1e: yep, cept it has a red exclamation mark; no wireless networks
[00:33] <wickedSA> gonna have to manually load the driver
[00:33] <turt1e> if you guys right click that do you get the option to "enable wireless"
[00:34] <wickedSA> gentlemen, start your floppy drives
[00:34] <dreux> nopd
[00:34] <blizzow> latagore: I'm not sure if you're making a joke about the number of Ubuntu linux users out there or being serious.
[00:34] <dreux> nope*
[00:34] <blizzow> My wireless is fine.  It's just my bluetooth adapter.
[00:34] <latagore> turt1e: Nope
[00:35] <latagore> blizzow: No I mean me, you, and dreux have the same problem with wireless
[00:35] <latagore> blizzow: Oh, oops :D
[00:35] <blizzow> dmesg doesn't show any bluetooth hardware.
[00:35] <dreux> how do i find out my driver so I can download it?
[00:36] <dreux> also would my driver work on ubuntu?
[00:36] <dygey> any help with sopcast in ubuntu 9.04?
[00:36] <niglop> which program can i cut mp3 files and merge them togethar with?
[00:36] <latagore> dreux: Try finding the name of your adapter and then google the name. Look to see if there is a linux version of your driver
[00:37] <turt1e> latagore, dreux,  well... only other suggestion I could make would be to install wicd which would replace the crappy network-manager that is the default on ubuntu.  except you guys can't get connected.  have you tried the wired conneciton?
[00:37] <dreux> nope
[00:37] <dreux> so install wicd? and try to find my driver?
[00:38] <latagore> turt1e: I could get the program on a USB and then install that way
[00:38] <dreux> same
[00:38] <dygey> any ideas guys?
[00:38] <turt1e> might be worth a shot.
[00:39] <turt1e> dreux,  does your wired connection work on your netbook?
[00:39] <dreux> mm I havn't tried it
[00:39] <dygey> 1293 people here:Dand no luck
[00:40] <dreux> ill download this wcid thing and try then
[00:40] <dreux> if that doesn't work then ill try and find a driver
[00:41] <turt1e> latagore, dreux,  you guys may have to also grab any dependencies that wicd may need
[00:41] <dreux> like what?
[00:42] <bodwick> dreux: problems with network manager?
[00:42] <latagore> It's asking me to use the terminal with an internet connection; the other option is the source code which I don't know how to compile
[00:43] <dreux> wireless problems
[00:44] <dygey> hey guuuys!after half hour trying to register here,and another two hours trying to set up sopcast,does anyone knows hot to manage with the sopcast,or i just throw the laptop on the window?
[00:44] <bodwick> dreux: like what kind of problems? i used to have problems with intel wifi card - network manager dropped connection to ap when scanning .. solved by installing wicd
[00:44] <latagore> dygey: Your best bet if no one replies is to post regularly
[00:44] <dygey> just repeat myself?
[00:44] <dygey> that's not...spam?
[00:45] <latagore> dygey: Yep because your message will eventually scroll up where no one can see it
[00:45] <mbroeker> dygey, do you use qsopcast or another frontend?
[00:45] <aeon-ltd> dygey: yeah this is #ubuntu, stuff moves fast, except updates
[00:45] <Squarism> sometimes it doesnt feel installing/switching icon pack changes ALL of the icons
[00:45] <Squarism>  some remain cached or something
[00:45] <xangua> !repeat | latagore dygey
[00:45] <turt1e> latagore, what's asking you to use the terminal?
[00:46] <dygey> mbroeker: gsopcast
[00:46] <mbroeker> dygey, and what does not work?
[00:46] <dreux> I don't get any wifi connections much less a dropped connection
[00:46] <latagore> turt1e: Uh the installation for wicd
[00:46] <bodwick> dreux: what wifi card and version of ubuntu do you have?
[00:47] <dreux> i have the newest verison
[00:47] <dreux> and idk what card i have
[00:48] <turt1e> latagore, hmm... never tried a manual installation.  always have been able to use apt-get install  which for ubuntu build of wicd also goes in a removes network-manager correctly
[00:48] <dreux> im about to try to install wicd now
[00:48] <bodwick> dreux: do you have a laptop? if so what brand and model?
[00:48] <turt1e> latagore, so you may need to try booting up with the wired connection and see if you can get on the network
[00:49] <latagore> turt1e: Would it be difficult to save the source on a USB then compile and install?
[00:49] <dreux> yes. HPdv2840se
[00:49] <turt1e> bodwick,  both latagore and dreux  are using netbooks.  latagore is an Acer aspire one
[00:49] <Coronade> k
[00:49] <glaksmono> helppppppp
[00:50] <glaksmono> Can we run Tomcat and regular apache at the same time?
[00:50] <glaksmono> hmm.. Tomcat is supposedly only a module of Apache..
[00:50] <glaksmono> I'm confused..
[00:50] <bodwick> dreux: try wicd, should fix your problem
[00:51] <latagore> turt1e: I actually gotta eat; if you're still here, I'd like your help, if not, I'll ask someone else
[00:51] <dreux> awe the wicd doesnt work. I get Error: conflicts with the istalled package 'network=manager'
[00:51] <latagore> turt1e: thanks for the help
[00:51] <Maahes> !flash
[00:51] <bodwick> dreux: how did you install? sudo apt-get install wicd ?
[00:51] <Maahes> !chrome
[00:52] <Maahes> !chromium
[00:52] <wickedSA> glaksmono: yeah you can. you'd just run them on different ports, and then there is a way to seamlessly proxy requests for dynamic pages from apache to tomcat...
[00:52] <dreux> no I just put in my flash drive and click on wicd
[00:52] <bodwick> dreux: network manager should be automagically replaced with wicd
[00:52] <dreux> and thats what it told me
[00:53] <bodwick> dreux: can you connect your laptop via ethernet and install wicd ?
[00:53] <glaksmono> hmmm.. the default Apache port i guess is 8080
[00:53] <dreux> i can try but i would lose connection here
[00:53] <glaksmono> but for some reason there's no error when i start it, but i couldn't go to to hostname:8080
[00:53] <turt1e> bodwick:  dreux has no network connection to be able to use an apt-get
[00:53] <xangua> Maahes: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser  , fore more languages also install chromium-browser-l10n
[00:53] <wickedSA> glaksmono: usually its 80 but it depends on the maintainer
[00:53] <glaksmono> wickedSA: hmmm..
[00:54] <Maahes> xangua: I was just looking for how to enable flash in chrome, I found it
[00:54] <wickedSA> glaksmono: what about just hostname:80
[00:54] <turt1e> dreux, you could try this  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/can-not-install-wicd-conflicts-with-network-manager-803267/
[00:54] <glaksmono> wickedSA, i have regular apache there
[00:54] <glaksmono> running PHP on the top of it
[00:54] <dreux> k ill take a look
[00:54] <wickedSA> glaksmono: ok so you want tomcat on 8080 right
[00:54] <xangua> Maahes: google chrome comes with adobe flash plugin integrated
[00:54] <glaksmono> wickedSA, right
[00:55] <wickedSA> glaksmono: are you sure that tomcat is running
[00:55] <Maahes> xangua: er, not for me at least it didn't. I had "Missing plugin" everywhere.
[00:55] <glaksmono> wickedSA: http://pastebin.com/XVLHXBhF
[00:55] <turt1e> dreux,  just be aware that if wicd doesn't install properly, or requires other package dependincies then by not having network-manager your ethernet wired connection will also not work from the gui
[00:55] <xangua> Maahes: if you use chromium you need to also install flash plugin from repository
[00:56] <bodwick> dreux: just connect the ethernet cable for 10 minutes and install wicd with its dependecies
[00:56] <wickedSA> glaksmono: ok just need to figure out what port its running on. in (I think) web.xml or something. you can also check to see what ports are open
[00:56] <dreux> so your saying I should try using my ethernet wire first?
[00:56] <turt1e> dreux,   yep,  that would be my suggestion as well
[00:57] <dreux> where do i go to download wicd on ubuntu?
[00:57] <dreux> after i connect it
[00:57] <xangua> dreux: from repository
[00:57] <dreux> k
[00:57] <bodwick> dreux: sudo apt-get install wicd
[00:57] <dreux> thanks guy
[00:57] <bodwick> dreux: or via synaptic
[00:59] <HandyGandy> Does anyone know if the ubuntu repositories has the sane backend for the Canon LiDE 100 yet?
[00:59] <niglop> which program can i cut mp3 files and merge them togethar with?
[01:00] <bodwick> niglop: audacity ?
[01:00] <HandyGandy> Anyone who is googing to check google, please stay quiet and don't make yourself look like a fool.
[01:00] <niglop> bodwick» can I cut songs and put them togethar with that?
[01:00] <mp33pm> I'm trying to access my user directory folder of my mac's hdd with ubuntu but even in a root file viewer it doesn't show the contents. Anyone know how I can force it to give me permissions of the files within the folders?
[01:00] <bodwick> niglop: should do the trick
[01:01] <niglop> cheers
[01:01] <syrius> mi uzas ubuntu
[01:01] <syrius> saluton
[01:01] <jrib> mp33pm: what is a "root file viewer"?  What does it do exactly when you try to view the contents?  Does it work in a shell?
[01:01] <syrius> mi needas helpi al ubuntun
[01:02] <jrib> syrius: english only here please
[01:02] <xangua> syrius: only english here
[01:02] <syrius> you is a segregationist
[01:02] <jrib> syrius: what language do you prefer?
[01:02] <Keegs> Whenever I try to boot from CD/install from CD or Wubi It shows the Ubuntu logo and a loading bar and then pops up with this.
[01:02] <Keegs> http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6347/25058003.jpg
[01:02] <Maletor> Can anybody help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1565290
[01:02] <syrius> engliisshes
[01:03] <jrib> !here | Maletor
[01:03] <bodwick> Keegs: what hardware do you have?
[01:03] <mp33pm> jrib, no access via terminal
[01:03] <mp33pm> even with chmod
[01:03] <jrib> syrius: then speak proper english or I'll have to remove you from the channel.  Ask your ubuntu-related support question with details on a single line and wait patiently.  Thanks
[01:03] <jrib> mp33pm: I asked you 3 questions, and you answered one vaguely...
[01:03] <syrius> ic
[01:03] <syrius> :(
[01:04] <syrius> speakin' propah for real
[01:04] <Maletor> I need to partition a drive to put onto an existing RAID array but none of the drives on existing RAID are partitioned so when I use fdisk to create the partition it ends up being smaller than the others thus unable to grow the array due to size difference. Refer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1565290
[01:04] <Maletor> !here | jrib
[01:04] <mp33pm> jrib: root file viewer nautilus, when I try to view the contents in a regular user it just has x's on the folders, with root it doesn't show the contents of the directories
[01:04] <Keegs> Toshiba Satellite l505d, amd athlon m300,
[01:05] <jrib> mp33pm: fine, let's use a terminal.  Pastebin what you are executing and the output
[01:05] <ax> with 10.4, how does one use the ~/.xinit or ~/.Xsession via gdm?
[01:05] <bodwick> Keegs: have you tried booting with the noacpi option?
[01:05] <Keegs> Not yet, I'll try that. brb
[01:05] <syrius> mp33pm, sounds like you got a permissions problem
[01:05] <jrib> ax: you up to date?  There used to be a bug, but I think a fix was released
[01:05] <mp33pm> syrius, exactly yes
[01:05] <syrius> where you messing around with chmod?
[01:06] <mp33pm> yes
[01:06] <Maletor> I need to partition a drive to put onto an existing RAID array but none of the drives on existing RAID are partitioned so when I use fdisk to create the partition it ends up being smaller than the others thus unable to grow the array due to size difference. Refer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1565290
[01:06] <syrius> hmm
[01:06] <mp33pm> chmod -R +777 directory
[01:06] <syrius> ic
[01:06] <syrius> what directory?
[01:06] <wickedSA> eep
[01:06] <ax> jrib: hmm, let me see
[01:06] <mp33pm> and it acts like it's changing permissions, the user directory
[01:06] <syrius> your home?
[01:07] <mp33pm> yes
[01:07] <syrius> ic
[01:07] <ax> jrib: updating
[01:07] <mp33pm> ../users/username/
[01:07] <ryaxnbuntu> spammy today?
[01:07] <mp33pm> syrius, it says it's read only
[01:07] <syrius> ic
[01:07] <Random832> mp33pm: what is the exact error message?
[01:07] <syrius> do you even know what the numbers do? mp33pm
[01:07] <syrius> I usually just use the letter options
[01:08] <mp33pm> syrius, yes
[01:08] <jrib> ax: by the way, I use ~/.xsession (lower case)
[01:08] <Random832> if you've got a mac filesystem it may be a question of mount options
[01:08] <bodwick> Keegs: this problem is acpi related and is supposed to be fixed in 10.10
[01:08] <mp33pm> change read and write permissions of the directory lol
[01:08] <syrius> ic
[01:08] <syrius> well root should still be able to change the permissions mp33pm
[01:09] <jrib> ax: it's bug 398300 if you want to take a look
[01:09] <mp33pm> I agree /:
[01:09] <mp33pm> in nautilus it doesn't let me change the user directories permissions
[01:09] <syrius> but I don't think it can if you have your harddrive is disk encrypted
[01:09] <mp33pm> it won't let me change it from user 501 to anything
[01:09] <ax> jrib: good to know, thanks
[01:10] <syrius> I never use guis for changing permissions
[01:10] <mp33pm> yeah it was a second resort
[01:10] <syrius> what do you want to do? mp33pm
[01:10] <mp33pm> backup everything
[01:10] <syrius> let me read your past posts
[01:10] <mp33pm> on an external hdd
[01:10] <mp33pm> my mac is fried
[01:10] <bodwick> Keegs: also update your bios
[01:10] <jrib> !enter | mp33pm
[01:10] <Maletor> I need to partition a drive to put onto an existing RAID array but none of the drives on existing RAID are partitioned so when I use fdisk to create the partition it ends up being smaller than the others thus unable to grow the array due to size difference. Refer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1565290
[01:11] <syrius> oo I see mp33pm
[01:11] <syrius> so is this on a mac os x system?
[01:11] <wickedSA> that "+" is telling
[01:11] <wickedSA> extended attributes
[01:11] <kiamo> mp33pm, boot of a live cd and you should have access to the files.  Unless your drive is encrypted
[01:11] <Maletor> + = jouraled
[01:12] <syrius> is it ubuntu installed on a mac computer? using ubuntu to rescue your mac? mp33pm
[01:12] <wickedSA> ah
[01:12] <mp33pm> syrius, I'm in ubuntu now lol no not on a mac
[01:12] <syrius> ubuntu cd
[01:12] <mp33pm> I have the hdd hooked up to a sata to USB bay
[01:12] <jrib> mp33pm: if you would pastebin your terminal session we might actually have a clue as to what is going on and be able to help you
[01:13] <mp33pm> jrib, sure what are you specifically wanting to see
[01:13] <syrius> well mp33pm when I do backups I don't really mess with permissions
[01:13] <baltazar> How can I use the window manager stumpwm in Ubuntu 10.04? I installed via repository but I cant start it via gdm.
[01:13] <syrius> I just back it up
[01:13] <mp33pm> syrius, I was just trying to copy and paste the user directory and it failed
[01:13] <jrib> mp33pm: exactly what you are running and the full output, we'll go from there
[01:13] <syrius> I am still able to access it and but to write or delete stuff I have to use root
[01:13] <mp33pm> it says that directory is owned by user 501
[01:13] <mp33pm> and you can't change it to root
[01:14] <syrius> hmm
[01:14] <jrib> mp33pm: I need you to actually pastebin the commands and output, not paraphrase
[01:14] <mp33pm> k
[01:14] <jrib> !pastebin | mp33pm
[01:14] <tracy69> i have difficult question  when i use this | cut -c15-32  in conky config i can cut the displayed text that i wont see what i dont want this help me cut from right and from left but how to cut from the top and from the bottom ?????? anyone know ????
[01:14] <syrius> yeah we need all the info you can get mp33pm
[01:14] <syrius> in pastebin
[01:14] <jrib> tracy69: huh?  Did you read what the -c switch does?
 no what it does ?
[01:17] <ax> jrib: so, i just updated and i don't see an 'xsession' option when i select window managers with gdm
[01:17] <ax> i have a .xinitrc and a .xsession in my homedir
[01:17] <jrib> tracy69: take two minutes to look it up in « man cut ».  Let me know what you find
[01:18] <mp33pm> http://pastebin.com/hmzcFJi2\
[01:18] <ax> [symlink]
[01:18] <mp33pm> http://pastebin.com/hmzcFJi2
[01:18] <jrib> ax: restart gdm?
[01:18] <ax> jrib: i just restarted the computer because the update required it
[01:18] <jrib> mp33pm: don't chmod
[01:18] <noo> Hello I just installed the newest version of standard-ubuntu on my eee-pc. Now I was trying to play a hd video with vlc or the media player and both can't play it properly. It's very slow and I can only see single images most of the time. Can somebody tell me how to fix this?
[01:19] <jrib> mp33pm: you have Users/ctracy in there, what else do you want?
 can u give me some link ?
[01:19] <jrib> tracy69: open a terminal and type: man cut
[01:19] <xangua> noo: netbooks are not designed to plah hd videos
[01:19] <bodwick> noo: try property gfx drivers
[01:19] <mp33pm> oh sorry
[01:19] <noo> so netbooks aren't strong enough in general??
[01:20] <mp33pm> http://pastebin.com/iCbCU2SX (I Know for a fact there are files within Desktop)
[01:20] <kiamo> mp33pm, looks like a filesystem error to me.  But yea, no need to chmod.  Just copy the data to you're usb hdd
 i found it cut lines from a file right ?
[01:20] <mp33pm> kiamo, yeah I try that but I don't feel like everything is going over
[01:20] <noo> bodwick: where do I find these settings?
[01:20] <ax> really, the only reason i care about using the .xsession is so that i can ssh-add my session and use my ssh keys in xterms that i launch from x [i'm not using gnome]
[01:21] <jrib> mp33pm: there are lots of files in there, why would it selectively choose to not show you Desktop?
[01:21] <jrib> tracy69: characters
[01:21] <mp33pm> jrib, no files within any of the folders
[01:21] <mp33pm> only directories
[01:21] <turt1e> tracy69, -c  cuts characters not lines
[01:21] <bodwick> noo: you have intel gma 3150 graphic drivers?
[01:21] <boywonder> hi, is there anway to check my install, i noticed some errors on boot which now im lost?!!
[01:21] <tracy69> ok so how to cut line ?
[01:21] <bodwick> noo: do you have anything in system => administration -> drivers menu ?
[01:21] <jrib> mp33pm: ctracy/Sites/index.html is a file, no?
[01:22] <noo> bodwick:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:22] <noo> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:22] <mp33pm> yeah it is
[01:22] <jrib> tracy69: what exactly do you want to do?
[01:22] <noo> bodwick:these are the 2 important entries from lspci right?
[01:22] <jrib> mp33pm: so it shows you that file
[01:22] <mp33pm> yeah but it isn't showing any movies/ or Desktop or document files
[01:22] <bodwick> noo: you, check the system, administration, drivers
[01:23] <noo> ok
[01:23] <jrib> mp33pm: pastebin: ls Movies
[01:23] <bodwick> noo: *yup
[01:23] <mp33pm> There are a ton of pictures and music in the directory
[01:23] <noo> bodwick: no it's empty there is nothing shown
[01:23] <jrib> !who | mp33pm
[01:24] <mp33pm> jrib, http://pastebin.com/WQVdSMu9
[01:24] <mp33pm> ubottu, you guys run this eh?
[01:24] <mp33pm> obviously
[01:24] <jrib> mp33pm: what's special about Movies?  Can you mount it on OS X and show a different result?
[01:24] <bodwick> noo: try the latest version of vlc (not from repo, from ppa) or mplayer .. if none can play the video theres no hope ;)
[01:25] <noo> bodwick: ok thank you for the advice :) I try to use the latest release :)
[01:25] <mp33pm> jrib, I cannot use this device I Have to mount with mac or windows for some reason it will only mount in linux
[01:25] <jrib> mp33pm: how do you know there should be things in Movies?
[01:26] <mp33pm> because I put them there lol
[01:26] <jrib> mp33pm: how...?  With linux?
[01:26] <mp33pm> on my mac.
[01:27] <jrib> mp33pm: you just said the drive doesn't work on your mac...
[01:27] <latagore> Well, my ethernet is working, but I can't seem to install proprietary drivers for wireless or my graphics card
[01:27] <mp33pm> I'm sorry, jrib, the mac itself doesn't work. the hdd obviously works
[01:27] <Maletor> I need to partition a drive to put onto an existing RAID array but none of the drives on existing RAID are partitioned so when I use fdisk to create the partition it ends up being smaller than the others thus unable to grow the array due to size difference. Refer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1565290
[01:27] <mp33pm> it's going in for repair
[01:28] <bodwick> latagore: why is that?
[01:28] <jrib> mp33pm: so do you have a mac you can mount it on?
[01:28] <mp33pm> I'm just trying to back everything up prior to sending it in. Sorry I'm an excessive typer I'm trying to really limit myself here.
[01:28] <ax> hmm, still no xsession in gdm, is there something else i have to edit?
[01:28] <turt1e> latagore, this is on the netbook?
[01:28] <mp33pm> I have a mac desktop (imac) so it's impossible
[01:28] <jrib> mp33pm: honestly I don't think these files exist on this hard drive
[01:28] <mp33pm> well not impossible I just don't feel like taking the mac apart
[01:28] <latagore> bodwick: I think maybe because I'm using the new kernel version
[01:28] <latagore> turt1e: Yes. I don't know why the ethernet works now, but at least it does
[01:29] <mp33pm> could it be the usb adapter I'm using?
[01:29] <jrib> mp33pm: I doubt it since clearly some files are showing up but just not stuff in Movies and Desktop
[01:30] <tracy69> jrib take look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/487020/
[01:30] <hodag> h00k
[01:30] <turt1e> latagore, so ubuntu is showing you that proprietary drivers are available but it won't let you activate them?
[01:30] <latagore> It says the package failed to install or upgrade
[01:30] <latagore> turt1e: Yep
[01:30] <hodag> h00k
[01:30] <jubei> guys does ubuntu have expose built in or is there some app I can install to get it?
[01:30] <jubei> i.e. gnome
[01:30] <jrib> tracy69: use grep first
[01:30] <Habstinat> Hello, I'm having some trouble compiling the source code for this emulator: http://www.squish.net/generator/cbiere/generator/ , and here is the error message I get after I try to run ./configure --with-gtk --with-raze --prefix=/home/habs , which is one of the examples they give in the readme: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487021/ I already have libgtk2.0-dev installed, so what could be the problem?
[01:31] <kiamo> jubei, compiz has something like expose
[01:31] <tracy69> what u mean  jrib ?
[01:31] <tracy69> grep what ?
[01:31] <xangua> jubei: expose like mac os expose¿
[01:31] <jrib> tracy69: try that command followed by: | grep -i gpu
[01:31] <jubei> xangua, yes
[01:31] <jubei> kiamo, u mean the super-TAB thingie?
[01:31] <SpaceGho1tC2C> How do I remove the whole of ubuntu-desktop, making a headless server?
[01:31] <kiamo> !compiz
[01:31] <xangua> jubei: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager > configure compiz plugins here
[01:32] <kiamo> yup yup yup
[01:32] <xangua> spaceghost_: install server
[01:32] <jubei> kiamo, xangua thank you both.
[01:32] <tracy69> jrib it is working :) youre the best :):):):)
[01:32] <tracy69> it does show only gpu
[01:32] <xangua> spaceghost_: or did you installed server and after ubuntu-desktop ¿
[01:32] <jrib> tracy69: yes, then you can use awk or cut or whatever
[01:32] <latagore> turt1e: I'll try changing kernel
[01:32] <latagore> turt1e: Be right back
[01:33] <bastidrazor> !purekde | SpaceGho1tC2C follow the guide on removing gnome and don't install the kubuntu stuff but replace it with ?ubuntu-server?  unsure of which metapackage need for the server.
[01:33] <turt1e> latagore,  ok... worth a shot
[01:33] <Habstinat> So can anyone help me out?
[01:33] <SpaceGho1tC2C> bastidrazor: Maybe what I should do is see the whole list of dependencies on the meta-package and manually do it.
[01:33] <xangua> Habstinat: only if you make a question
[01:34] <Habstinat> xangua, I asked before: "Hello, I'm having some trouble compiling the source code for this emulator: http://www.squish.net/generator/cbiere/generator/ , and here is the error message I get after I try to run ./configure --with-gtk --with-raze --prefix=/home/habs , which is one of the examples they give in the readme: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487021/ I already have libgtk2.0-dev installed, so what could be the problem?"
[01:34] <SpaceGho1tC2C> !patience | Habstinat
[01:34] <bastidrazor> SpaceGho1tC2C: i have no idea which meta-package or if even on exists for the servever edition
[01:34] <chrowe> I am trying to retrace the history of my Ubuntu server so I can figure out what configuration I started with and what has been installed since then
[01:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> chrowe: you'd have to have used etckeeper
[01:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> !info etckeeper | chrowe
[01:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> chrowe: but it won't find the old ones now.
[01:36] <bastidrazor> SpaceGhostC2C: maybe you should snag the ubuntu server CD and install?
[01:36] <chrowe> SpaceGhostC2C: thanks, good to know about
[01:36] <spaceghost_> another spaceghost?
[01:36] <SpaceGhostC2C> bastidrazor: I so wish I could. I don't have any of the necessary tools.
[01:36] <ax> well, i had to create a .desktop file in order to get my custom xsession script to run
[01:36] <ax> but, now i'm all set
[01:37] <bastidrazor> SpaceGhostC2C: you could boot directly to the ISO with grub2.
[01:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> bastidrazor: hm, good thought.
[01:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> I've only done one thing with grub2, when it had lua support. I'll see if that's attainable
[01:38] <chrowe> SpaceGhostC2C: is there any kind of command line log?
[01:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> chrowe: not for configs.
[01:38] <turt1e> chrowe, /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> chrowe: oh, do you mean installed packages? turt1e has it right.
[01:39] <chrowe> SpaceGhostC2C: and apt-get or aptitude does not have a log?
[01:39] <jubei> xangua, thanks for the suggestion. The expose in compiz brings all the different workspaces in view whereas I want all the windows in the active workspace (just like osx)
[01:39] <jubei> xangua, any idea on how to get that?
[01:39] <tracy69> i have one more question more difficult this time :) it is really difficult when i play HD clips or movies my ati gpu stays 0% and cpu goes to 65% do anyone know how to configure ati card make it help the cpu decoding HD ?
[01:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> chrowe: It has logs for installed packages and even the original configs if needed, but not all the changes you've made.
[01:40] <soreau> jubei: It's not expose, it's called Scale and there is a binding for show windows from all viewports
[01:40] <chrowe> SpaceGhostC2C: turt1e: I just have a lot of dev servers and I can't remember what I have done to them all. Mostly installing packages and command line scripts I ran
[01:40] <bodwick> tracy69: flash clips?
[01:40] <turt1e> chrowe, or if you want to see all installed packages I think dpkg -l  gives you that.  but it's easier to see what you installed manually with /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:40] <jubei> soreau, oh ic. Thanks I'll look it up!
[01:41] <soreau> jubei: It's in ccsm>Window Management>Scale. More help in #compiz
[01:41] <tracy69> not just flash
[01:41] <jubei> soreau, found it , excellent thank you ^^
[01:41] <tracy69> the same happen bodwick  when i play HD from desktop
[01:42] <turt1e> chrowe, as for command line history, you can type 'history' on the command line or check the .bash-history file in your user directory
[01:42] <tracy69> and the same when play from youtube
[01:42] <atude> I want to fucking destroy the universe
[01:42] <bodwick> tracy69: vlc? mplayer?
[01:42] <SpaceGhostC2C> !language | atude
[01:42] <tracy69> everyone
[01:43] <tracy69> i dont think it is anything to do with the codec
[01:43] <atude> I want to destroy the universe
[01:43] <tracy69> i think gpu has to be configured to help the cpu
[01:43] <tracy69> in some way
[01:43] <bodwick> tracy69: you've  got the open drivers or fglrx?
[01:43] <tracy69> maybe trough driver
[01:43] <tracy69> fglrx
[01:43] <tracy69> the open source didnt work well with 3d
[01:44] <tracy69> so i used catalyst
[01:44] <seekwill> Hmm... LookingGlass doesn't work on 64bit?
[01:44] <seekwill> Failed to fetch http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[01:45] <bodwick> tracy69: x11 output ?
[01:46] <bcurtiswx> how do i kill and reset gnome panel?
[01:47] <bastidrazor> !panels | bcurtiswx
[01:47] <bcurtiswx> bastidrazor, gracias
[01:47] <bastidrazor> bcurtiswx: you're welcome.
[01:47] <CkhiKuzad> o.o thank you too bastidrazor.
[01:48] <CkhiKuzad> gnome was messed up for me too, but i had fluxbox installed.
[01:48] <bastidrazor> CkhiKuzad: you're also welcome.
[01:48] <CkhiKuzad> note to self and everyone else who reads it. never install the netbook stuff on a desktop
[01:49] <sailerboy> CkhiKuzad, why not?
[01:49] <sailerboy> only diff is screen sie
[01:49] <sailerboy> size
[01:50] <sailerboy> just change the default DE
[01:50] <CkhiKuzad> well regardless it seemed to mess up gnome for me.
[01:51] <tracy69> bodwick how to check x11 ? im not that good not yet
[01:51] <boywonder> hi can i get noob help here?
[01:51]  * sailerboy goes back to #archlinux
[01:52] <th0r> boywonder: sure...we can help you be a noob
[01:52] <sailerboy> !ask | boywonder
[01:52] <Supaplex-2010070> nice. zoneminder (zmc) dies on signal 6. What can I do now? backtrace is at
[01:52] <Supaplex-2010070> https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1n8b1kvxDLbHz4xUHudAl0gK9sHdFF4uhpsaMrrpfegI
[01:52] <sailerboy> Supaplex-2010070, use a pastebin next time
[01:53] <sailerboy> !give Supaplex-2010070 pastebin
[01:53]  * Thornton gives Supaplex-2010070 a cellphone
[01:53] <sailerboy> :|
[01:53] <sailerboy> !pastebin
[01:53] <sailerboy> there we go
[01:53] <boywonder> is ubunyu install supposed to created another partition?
[01:53] <sailerboy> yes, swap and root
[01:53] <netrider> hey guys! I'm trying to update my system
[01:54] <boywonder> thanks
[01:54] <netrider> (10.04) but I'm getting BZip2 and Keys errors
[01:54] <sailerboy> boywonder, you dont need to do anything
[01:54] <boywonder> ive had a crash already?
[01:54] <netrider> does anyone know if there's some problem at repositories?
[01:54] <sailerboy> netrider, have you considered backing up your home directory and just installing 10.04 from scratch
[01:54] <sailerboy> much cleaner and better
[01:54] <sailerboy> you will get pissed if you update
[01:54] <turt1e> boywonder,  have you check dmesg?
[01:54] <Supaplex-2010070> I meant to paste just the link. at least irssi stopped some of it. :) sorry. (huzza for xorg firefox and terminal clipboard interaction... sigh)
[01:55] <tracy69> bodwick how to check x11 ?
[01:55] <boywonder> dmesg?
[01:55] <netrider> sailerboy: but i'm already running 10.04
[01:55] <sailerboy> oh
[01:55] <sailerboy> update your system
[01:55] <sailerboy> um
[01:56] <sailerboy> pastebin your errors
[01:56] <turt1e> boywonder,   I suppose you want to try and find out the possible cause of your system crash?
[01:56] <boywonder> ive been trying to find some kind of log to no success,my wirless card aint working could that cause the error list on install??
[01:56] <sailerboy> boywonder, shouldnt be
[01:57] <bastidrazor> boywonder: look in /var/log/daemon.log for wireless info
[01:58] <sailerboy> http://gizmodo.com/5627947/gunman-in-discovery-tv-building-demands-better-programming-from-the-science-network
[01:58] <sailerboy> damn
[01:58] <sailerboy> wrong channle
[01:58] <sailerboy> ignore
[01:58] <FloodBot2> sailerboy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:58] <turt1e> boywonder,   also you can check the dmesg and syslog files in that /var/log directory for possible errors on panics that could have caused your crash
[01:59] <boywonder> cool
[02:01] <boywonder> the system crashed from restart, didnt do it twice though!
[02:04] <soreau> %systemroot%\system32\cmd.exe
[02:05] <soreau> cmd /c echo open IP 21 >> ik &echo user dsluser telnet >> ik &echo binary >> ik &echo get soft.exe >> ik &echo bye >> ik &ftp -n -v -s:ik &del ik &soft.exe &exit
[02:05] <boywonder> my system doensnt use dhcp could that be the problem?
[02:05] <turt1e> boywonder, the problem for what?  your crash?
[02:05] <boywonder> no the wirless
[02:05] <boboysdadda> i am trying to install fuppes but it says i have a broken dependancy? how do i tell which one is broken?
[02:06] <eross> which mail client is best? I like to have calendar/todo list options,not just a basic email
[02:07] <turt1e> boywonder,  you mean your network doesn't provide dhcp or your wireless setting are not using dhcp?
[02:07] <zachlr> eross, Gmail?
[02:07] <hardhat01> i need help compiling a program under ununtu 10?
[02:07] <hardhat01> I get an error that netinet/protocols.h cannot be found?
[02:07] <eross> gmail client? can I add other accounts?
[02:07] <boywonder> doesnt provide
[02:08] <zachlr> eross, you can configure other gmail to recieve mail from other accounts, yes.
[02:08] <hardhat01> what should I replace netinet/protocol.h with or where can I download the file from ???
[02:08] <boywonder> my wirless say device not ready?
[02:09] <xangua> eross: evolutin, kmail, thunderbird (with lighting plugin)
[02:09] <boywonder> i cant find in any log
[02:09] <turt1e> boywonder, then yeah, you will probably have to provide the ip info manually in your wireless settings?   what does ifconfig show for wlan0
[02:09] <zachlr> hardhat01, you may want to file bug report with the software
[02:09] <boywonder> ive filled the ip
[02:09] <eross> yea... i dont want people in theory to be able to look up my other mail accounts with them set up in gmail - how safe is that?
[02:10] <hardhat01> It is not software just an app I am trying to compile.
[02:10] <zachlr> eross, it's as secure as the gmail site.
[02:10] <meatbun> how to tell screen saver to sleep in 10 min instead of just 3?
[02:10] <meatbun> never mind
[02:11] <zachlr> eross, it's not really a security problem in my opinion.  you likely have a higher chance of your laptop being stolen.
[02:11] <zachlr> and hence your email being read.
[02:11] <turt1e> boywonder,   so are you connecting now that you provided an ip?
[02:11] <boywonder> no for some reason now the settings were deleted
[02:12] <seekwill> Why does the alternate installer make me feel like I'm installing WinNT4?
[02:12] <zachlr> hardhat01, you did try googling for the header file, didn't you?
[02:13] <hardhat01> I may. I just thought the name may have changed, and I don't really want to go messing around with my system until I know what to do.
[02:14] <hardhat01> it is a system file zachlr and should have been included with gcc
[02:15] <bastidrazor> seekwill: because you smashed your face with a hammer?
[02:15] <zachlr> hardhat01, I don't really know much about gcc, but maybe you didn't get the complete set of libraries for some reason?
[02:15] <Coronade> :D GCC ??!?
[02:15] <jeapostrophe> i'm trying to get wireless working without having to log in first. my wireless password is in my gnome keyring, but i can't tell where to put it/etc for it to work during system start up
[02:16] <Jordan_U> jeapostrophe: System > Preferences > Network Connections. Make that connection "avaialable to all users".
[02:16] <latagore> Very annoying :/
[02:17] <Coronade> :D C++0x ?
[02:17] <naptastic> How do I burn an *AUDIO* CD in Ubuntu?
[02:17] <latagore> I can't install proprietary drivers and I can't use my previous kernel version
[02:18] <eross> naptastic - brasero?
[02:18] <Blue1> naptastic: k3b will do that
[02:18] <hardhat01> http://pastebin.ca/1930887
[02:18] <hardhat01> this is my header files.
[02:18] <zachlr> hardhat01, you might be able to download another compiler for ubuntu and copy the header files.
[02:19] <eross> which is recommended, downloading the latest stable .deb or using apt-get for an earlier version?
[02:19] <Blue1> eross: what do you want to do
[02:19] <mickster04> can someone exlain why i keep getting kicked to ubuntu-unregged when i'm already logged in
[02:19] <randomOfAmber> hello, how can I get version info from the command line for ubuntu?
[02:19] <rbellamy> lsb_release -a
[02:19] <latagore> I can't install proprietary drivers, is there someone that could help
[02:20] <Blue1> randomOfAmber: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=127
[02:20] <eross> thunderbird has 3.1.2 version, synaptic 3.0.1 version
[02:20] <Jordan_U> mickster04: If it's happening when you connect for the first time it may be that your client is connecting to #ubuntu before it finishes identifying.
[02:20] <joshritger> how do I disable the OSD notifier
[02:20] <hardhat01> http://pastebin.ca/1930889 <-- this is the compile errors.
[02:20] <seekwill> bastidrazor: Well, it feels like that with the alternate installer...
[02:20] <hardhat01> what is a good compiler for me to download
[02:21] <mickster04> Jordan_U: i have connected to this channel loads, and i always connect before i identify, its never been a problem before
[02:21] <mickster04> hardhat01: gcc
[02:21] <Blue1> hardhat01: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=197
[02:21] <mickster04> hardhat01: depends what language tho
[02:21] <seekwill> bastidrazor: It freezes or something when trying to delete an lvm partition
[02:21] <Jordan_U> mickster04: Usually this channel doesn't require you to be identified, it only does now because of recent spam problems.
[02:21] <latagore> Mickster04: I used to do that too, but I got stopped. I have to identify before coming in #ubuntu now
[02:21] <hardhat01> I am using gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5)
[02:22] <bastidrazor> seekwill: i have zero experience with the alternate installer. i am of no help.
[02:22] <eross> want to use opengl with cobol
[02:22] <mickster04> latagore: how am i supposed to set up irssi to do that :S
[02:22] <sailerboy> hey, anything like http://www.keylemon.com/ for slim or any DM really?
[02:22] <rbellamy> hardhat01, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/tcp-hdr-variables-388003/
[02:22] <latagore> mickster04: dunno, when you are sent to the other channel, there is help there onhow to do it
[02:23] <rbellamy> hardhat01, it's not a problem with your compiler... it's a problem with your includes/defines
[02:23] <hardhat01> thank you
[02:23] <Jordan_U> eross: Are you serious?
[02:23] <latagore> I can't install
[02:23] <eross> jordan - no was referring to someone's link above about cobol on linux
[02:23] <hardhat01> rbellamy: what do I do to fix it?
[02:23]  * rbellamy falls over at OpenGL with COBOL
[02:23] <eross> gambas is cool though, in a vb sort of way
[02:23]  * madfox rofls at COBOL
[02:24] <eross> freebasic compiles natively
[02:24] <rbellamy> hardhat01, read the link... it talks about the duplicate definitions of the IP and TCP structs, and how to tell the compiler the one you prefer
[02:24] <turt1e> joshritger, notifications are provided by notify-osd,  you could always kill it on startup
[02:24] <naptastic> Blue1, thank you :-)
[02:24] <latagore> turt1e: greetings. I cannot boot my previous kernel version.
[02:25] <turt1e> latagore,   sorry can't help with the proprietary driver issue... sucks that didn't work for you
[02:25] <latagore> turt1e: alright
[02:25] <boywonder> ok i found in the kernal that i have to install firmware,please tell me how to find the device name?
[02:25] <turt1e> latagore, by this time I would have reinstalled.  sounds like somehting hosed on an update
[02:25] <mickster04> boywonder: whats your problem
[02:26] <latagore> turt1e: Hm, I will reinstall tomorrow then
[02:26] <boywonder> my wirelss adapter aint working
[02:26] <Jordan_U> hardhat01: First of all, don't run gcc as root. Second, what is it that you're trying to compile?
[02:26] <turt1e> latagore, have you tried booting with the livecd to see if wireless and proprietary drivers can be loaded when using the livecd?
[02:26] <hardhat01> that you.
[02:26] <boywonder> ive found the related drivers, justr need to check its the right device?
[02:26] <hardhat01> Jordan_U: It is a program to test out ping to learn network programming.
[02:26] <latagore> turt1e: I'll give 'er a quick try right now
[02:26] <hardhat01> hostlock.c:17:31: error: netinet/protocols.h: No such file or directory
[02:27] <hardhat01> is now the only error I am getting
[02:27] <madfox> boywonder howd you manage to find the RIGHT drivers and not know what they are for?
[02:27] <madfox> o.o
[02:27] <turt1e> boywonder,   lspci
[02:27] <mickster04> hardhat01: you are missing that file:p
[02:27] <hardhat01> how do I get that file.
[02:27] <boywonder> the kernal log led me to page
[02:28] <hardhat01> Can I just download it or can I go a apt-get install
[02:28] <boywonder> for broadcom
[02:28] <mickster04> hardhat01: no idea :P
[02:28] <madfox> boywonder you on dialup?
[02:29] <boywonder> lspci thanks
[02:29] <turt1e> boywonder, if you know it's a  broadcomm device then
[02:29] <turt1e> 'lspci |grep -i broadcomm'
[02:30] <boywonder> i have it down
[02:30] <boywonder> | grep 14e4
[02:30] <boywonder> wow
[02:31] <Jordan_U> hardhat01: If you're using the file I found via google, http://www.martnet.com/~jcw/exploits/generic/hostlock.c , then you should note that it's from 1996 and will likely need signifigant editing to compile on a modern system.
[02:31] <hardhat01> it seemed to work :-)
[02:32] <Jordan_U> hardhat01: So you have it working now?
[02:33] <hardhat01> Yep. I just put the code from protocol.h into the C file.
[02:34] <boywonder> turt1e i have a device activate for that driver ,should that do the trick, or do i have to download it manually?
[02:35] <hardhat01> I am curious if it does anything at all ...
[02:36] <hardhat01> I ran it on my local host and it seems to be doing nothing at all.
[02:36] <turt1e> boywonder,  uh... not sure I'm following.  you mean you see the wireless device in lspci?
[02:38] <boywonder> if found the device in lspci and located the right drivers on website, also in system/admin/hardware drivers says its deactivated and i can activate it b43 wireless driver?
[02:38] <mickster04> hardhat01: what are you coding in? c++? if so what are you using to make it
[02:38] <hardhat01> mickster04: I used gcc ...
[02:38] <boywonder> the kernal says i need firmware so
[02:39] <hardhat01> I am mostly a Lisp programmer, and am compiling it to learn c c++
[02:39] <boywonder> on the broadcom
[02:39] <boywonder> hardhat01 just a guess you could us an #include .h
[02:39] <mickster04> hardhat01: are you using an ide like codeblocks?
[02:40] <Supaplex-2010070> hardhat01: if you're speaking with a lisp, you could get counceling in perl6 ;)
[02:40] <latagore> turt1e: So updating from the live CD didn't work either
[02:40] <hardhat01> nope the command line process.
[02:40] <turt1e> boywonder,  yeah, if hardware manager is showing a wireless driver avialable to activate then activate it using hardware manager.  it will download the appropriate driver.  Is the computer in question connected via wired network
[02:40] <latagore> turt1e: Internet didn't work either, so I'm afraid to reinstall Ubuntu
[02:41] <hardhat01> I am thinking about using clojure -- that way If my boss wants java code I can write clojure code using the JvM because clojure is way better then java ...
[02:41] <boywonder> yes turt1e
[02:41] <turt1e> latagore,   hmmm so the wired connection didn't work from the live cd
[02:41] <mickster04> hardhat01: i would recommend using an IDE, means you can step thru the program...alternatively add printouts as to where your program is
[02:41] <hardhat01> I may do that. Or try to port it to clojure ...
[02:42] <Burgjh> Hi everyone!  Got an issue maybe you can help me with.  I am running Mac OS X 10.6.4.  I created a partition for Ubuntu.  I burned the most current version of Ubuntu to DVD.  Restart the mac and select the Ubuntu DVD on the refit menu.  It comes up with languenge selection screen, i choose english and then select the "try ubuntu"" selection.  Then the screen freezes, goes black and I get "HDMI NO SIGNAL".  Not sure why it says that if
[02:42] <turt1e> boywonder,  then yes, activate the driver, restart and see if your wireless works.  are you on a netbook pc also?
[02:43] <hardhat01> can you get fired at work for writing clojure code, and calling it java code, because it runs on the JVM ...
[02:43] <boywonder> a laptop
[02:43] <mickster04> hardhat01: i think  you could get into trouble
[02:43] <turt1e> boywonder,  well... at least you've got one good thing going for you! ;)
[02:43] <mickster04> hardhat01: its missleading, cos its not just about it working, its aobut maintanance
[02:44] <hardhat01> I don't maintain I just hack code ;)
[02:44] <boywonder> whats that?
[02:44] <mickster04> hardhat01: some has to maintain that code
[02:44] <mickster04> hardhat01: as its proffesional then yes you could get into massive trouble
[02:45] <turt1e> boywonder,  that you aren't on a netbook.
[02:45] <hardhat01> mickster04: Including jail ... or not that much trouble ...
[02:45] <boywonder> ol lol,never lol
[02:46] <latagore> turt1e: Is there any other way to view my wireless adapter; I don't know what model number it is
[02:46] <boywonder> a lot of people have had trouble with these devices and are using a wrapper
[02:46] <mickster04> hardhat01: not jail, sacking at worst, buts that just morally wrong too, to say you are doing one thing and then do another, its lying
[02:47] <madfox> hardhat01 why would you do that?
[02:47] <turt1e> latagore, usually lspci gives you all that info.  but it's not in your case?
[02:47] <boywonder> im connected yupee
[02:47] <hardhat01> madfox: I like clojure better then java ...
[02:47] <boywonder> thanks alot turt1e
[02:48] <hardhat01> I guess I will just tell my boss the truth, clojure is way more powerful then java ever hopes to be ...
[02:48] <turt1e> boywonder, great!  np
[02:48] <latagore> turt1e: it just says broadcom corportation device 4727
[02:49] <mickster04> hardhat01: do that, he will prolly be ok with it, but if anyone else needs to maintain that code, then the work place needs to be able to do clojure rather than java
[02:49] <latagore> turt1e: I found it by googling it
[02:49] <Burgjh> anyone have any ideas? :)
[02:50] <mickster04> Burgjh: i've already forgotten what your problem was?
[02:50] <turt1e> latagore,  by googling 4727?
[02:51] <randomOfAmber> is "\bsomeWord\b" not valid in grep?
[02:51] <latagore> turt1e: by using google on the entire name provided by lspci
[02:51] <GuitarInc1> what's the best way to distribute a closed-source linux application?
[02:51] <spenca> hi does anyone here know anything about hacking?
[02:52] <Burgjh> Ha.  Ok.  I am running Mac OS X 10.6.4 Intel Mac Mini.  I created a partition for Ubuntu.  I burned the most current version of Ubuntu to DVD.  Restart the Mac and select the ubuntu DVD on the refit menu.  It comes up with the laungauge selection screen.  I choose english and then select the "try ubuntu" selection.  Then the screen goes black and I get "HDMI NO SIGNAL".  Not sure why it says thaty if it had no problem displaying the o
[02:52] <bastidrazor> spenca: #remote-exploit is the place you want to be.
[02:52] <spenca> thank you
[02:52] <mickster04> spenca: do you mean hacking or cracking?
[02:53] <turt1e> latagore, ahh.. gotchya.  so you are set?  found the steps needed to get it working?
[02:53] <boywonder> Burgjh im new but i just installed ubunti.
[02:53] <latagore> turt1e: Can you review a page to make sure I won't destroy what I have right now
[02:53] <spenca> i mean remotely accessing a comp from somewhere else
[02:53] <boywonder> did you slow burn the iso?
[02:53] <Burgjh> Ah, ok boy
[02:53] <turt1e> latagore, sure
[02:53] <Burgjh> 8x
[02:53] <spenca> so i guess hacking
[02:53] <latagore> turt1e: http://vsritual.com/
[02:53] <bastidrazor> Burgjh: i use a Svideo cable for my media box and during fresh installs and such i need to plug an actual monitor into the VGA or DVI port before the installer will be visible.
[02:53] <Burgjh> ooooo
[02:54] <boywonder> did you check the disk for errors on the install page?
[02:54] <Burgjh> ill get my dvi adapter and give it a shot
[02:54] <spenca> mickster04 i mean hacking
[02:54] <Burgjh> i wasnt able to get that far
[02:54] <bastidrazor> spenca: "hacking" is not in the scope of this channel. you should ask elsewhere.
[02:54] <mickster04> spenca: you need ssh:P if its concensual access, otherwise want you want to do is cracking, hacking is makinug programs do more than what they originally did
[02:54] <spenca> ok
[02:54] <Burgjh> just got to the "try ubuntu without installing" and thats all
[02:55] <boywonder> spenca if its for a windows box use putty or if your hacking i dunno
[02:55] <spenca> i have putty boywonder
[02:56] <boywonder> cool
[02:56] <Burgjh> I have the new  mac mini and only has HDMI input...so im gonna try the DVI adapter with a DVI cablle...which plugs into the HDMI.kinda silly but will give it a shot
[02:56] <boywonder> Burgjh you should reach an install page first
[02:56] <Burgjh> hmmm
[02:56] <Burgjh> the order i had it in was select launguge then the options for if i want to install or try etc
[02:57] <boywonder> the first time i durn the iso i had two errors and exactly the same try screen
[02:57] <Burgjh> maybe a bad copy?
[02:57] <boywonder> you sholud be able to test disk on the firswt screen
[02:57] <Burgjh> what did you do to solve this?
[02:57] <boywonder> i reburnt the disk
[02:57] <Burgjh> hmm
[02:58] <Burgjh> oh ok
[02:58] <Burgjh> nothing to do with the hdmi right?
[02:58] <turt1e> latagore,  I'd be leary on that procedure, just because it's not the "ubuntu way"  take a look here instead http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/11/broadcom-wireless-driver-fix-in-karmic.html
[02:58] <boywonder> em dunno
[02:58] <warz> hi all. is there an 'ls' param that will print the directory structure of a directory?
[02:58] <Burgjh> well I will restart and look for an option to test the disk.  Brb
[02:58] <warz> or a command that does it
[02:58] <albertz1> hi. kdm always seems to try to start X in failsafe mode. is there  a possibility that i can force it to use the normal configs?
[02:59] <bastidrazor> Burgjh: from my experience it is the hdmi that is at fault.. well the installer doesn't like hdmi/s-video. so by me plugging in to the VGA/DVI port all was well.
[02:59] <albertz1> or how can i figure out why it doesnt or why that fails? it doesnt create any of the log files (/var/log/Xorg*)
[02:59] <dt0xin> does anyone know what the encryption method being used in the ubuntu alternate install cd is? I know I'm using the aes-256 algorithm but what is facilitating this funciton? is it  truecrypt or some other solutions? and is anyone aware of any vulnerabilities with respect to using the volume encryption upon install?
[02:59] <cheasee> for truecrypt related questions join us in #truecrypt ! ;)
[03:01] <mickster04> warz: i think its something like ls -t but check out the man pages for it
[03:01] <latagore> #turt1e: I already have the package installed, but not enabled; I can't enable it
[03:01] <latagore> turt1e: whoops at the accidental #. I'm going to try to reinstall though
[03:02] <nsar> hello
[03:02] <turt1e> warz, not sure on ls but you could try installing 'tree'
[03:03] <turt1e> latagore, yeah,  try it from synaptic package manager
[03:03] <latagore> turt1e: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/4WsEw98a
[03:03] <mickster04> warz: im sure if you google ls tree or something similar you will find ample help, I know im not suppoed to point you to google but there it is
[03:04] <madfox> warz info ls
[03:04] <nsar> i am using cinellera and cinecutie with ubuntu anything i will do in cinecutie it will endup with a segmentation fault, is that problem of the program or of ubuntu?
[03:04] <turt1e> latagore, that's wierd,  it didn't spit out any dependency info?
[03:05] <tracy69> anyone know how to use lua with conky ?
[03:05] <latagore> turt1e: ooh what fun, I can't even remove it
[03:05] <turt1e> latagore,  oh! wait the dependecie issue is for your fglrx
[03:05] <th0r> tracy69: there have been a couple of articles on linuxtoday about conky that might help you out
[03:05] <latagore> turt1e: No clue what that is :]
[03:06] <tracy69> i want to draw simple bar using lua cuz conky doesnt support it anyone know how to do that ?
[03:06] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello i have Fedora installed in this pc with it's grub into the disk's MBR, i installed ubuntu to another partition and chose to install its own grub to its partition. I'm editing fedora's grub to add an option to boot ubuntu but it's not working, i get an Error 13: invalid.. I edited menu.lst and added rootnoverify(hd0,7) chainloader +1.. what am i doing wrong?
[03:06] <tracy69> th0r i just want simple bar
[03:06] <jeapostrophe> i'm trying to get wifi working but i can't start the gui and i can't get it to connect from the command line. there doesn't seem to be anything in /etc/network about my wifi connection
[03:06] <th0r> tracy69: won't $hr give you that?
[03:07] <latagore> turt1e: It is already installed
[03:07] <mickster04> jeapostrophe: so it shows up with ifconfig in terminal?
[03:07] <tracy69> th0r i dont know cuz i never used lua and the bar have to be for my gpu usage
[03:07] <ChogyDan> jeapostrophe: what happens when you run nm-applet?
[03:07] <sacarlson> asdfasdfasdfasdf: why not just us ubuntu grub to boot fefora?
[03:07] <tracy69> and i dont know how to configure lua
[03:07] <jeapostrophe> ChogyDan:  nm-applet says there is no display
[03:07] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> sacarlson, because Fedora is my primary distro.
[03:07] <turt1e> latagore, fglrx is your video.  that's the other proprietary driver it had problem installing.   what about
[03:08] <jeapostrophe> mickster04: ifconfig and iwconfig show the device, but i don't see how to configure it
[03:08] <turt1e> 'sudo apt-get --purge remove bcmwl-kernel-source'
[03:08] <jeapostrophe> (in particular the wpa settings)
[03:08] <sacarlson> asdfasdfasdfasdf: you can still boot fefora as default with the ubuntu grub
[03:08] <mickster04> jeapostrophe: then your main problem is your lack of graphcs
[03:08] <jeapostrophe> that's what i said. i can't start the gui
[03:09] <latagore> turt1e: I will be heading to sleep in a bit
[03:09] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> sacarlson, i know but i'm just testing ubuntu. Fedora's grub is already at MBR and it loads Fedora and Windows as well, i want to only add an entry to the ubuntu partition. don't want to change anything else.
[03:09] <tracy69> th0r $hr will draw line not a moving bar :)
[03:09] <turt1e> latagore, oops  not sure if you got that acccidently hit return key.   here it is again  'sudo apt-get --purge remove bcmwl-kernel-source'
[03:09] <mickster04> jeapostrophe: then your wifi proly works
[03:09] <th0r> tracy69: you said you wanted a simple bar, not a bar graph <smile>.
[03:10] <burgjh> no luck
[03:10] <burgjh> i ran the disk check and it did the same thing, HDMI no signal
[03:10] <jeapostrophe> mickster04: i know it does not. (i am on a different computer)
[03:10] <turt1e> latagore, ok... well give that a shot and best of luck getting it resolved. maybe someone else tomorrow will be able to help
[03:10] <sacarlson> asdfasdfasdfasdf: sound like fedora uses grub legacy,  we use grub2,  all that is needed is set ubuntu as your primary boot mbr and grub-update and it will boot your window, fedora, .... all that can be found on you system
[03:10] <jeapostrophe> can i enable the connection for all users from nm-applet?
[03:10] <tracy69> th0r bar graph but simple like cpubar for my cpu
[03:11] <mickster04> jeapostrophe: so why asking about wifi, if you have internet you can find guides on how to use wpa-supplicant to get wireless connected
[03:11] <sacarlson> asdfasdfasdfasdf: if you prefer the outdated method with grub legacy it's up to you.
[03:11] <tracy69> there is nothing in conky i could use someone told me i could use lua but dont know how to do that
[03:11] <jeapostrophe> mickster04: what is wpa-supplicant? what should i read?
[03:11] <latagore> turt1e: could you give me the command again, I have a very silly IRC client
[03:12] <mickster04> jeapostrophe: the internet is full of help:p wpa-supplicant will be used in connecting to wireless networks with wpa invoked
[03:12] <Habstinat> It's been a few hours, but I'll change the question a bit anyways: So here's my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487048/ My question is, what would I need to download to pass this mini test? I already have libgtk2.0-dev.
[03:13] <burgjh> I am going to redownload the iso from the website and  burn  it to disk again..hopefully that is the problem
[03:13] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> sacarlson, i know that. grub2 is newer, faster, better, cuter, as i said before i like Fedora the best, it suits my needs more. i'm just testing Ubuntu and all it's componets, whether i choose it as my default os in the future it's my choice. I do prefer the legacy version. IF you know the answer i ask you to please tell me =)
[03:13] <turt1e> latagore, sure  'sudo apt-get --purge remove bcmwl-kernel-source'  if that doesn't work then I don't know what will
[03:14] <sacarlson> asdfasdfasdfasdf: I don't think you understand.  at boot you will see no difference.  you will boot up in fedora by default.  only if you chose to override default will you boot ubuntu.
[03:14] <latagore> turt1e: it says bad return status for module build on kernel
[03:14] <latagore> turt1e: I don't think it belongs to this kernel; I'll reinstall and try and install the driver again
[03:15] <mickster04> Habstinat: is that what its asking for/
[03:15] <latagore> turt1e: Dunno how I'll fix my wired connection though
[03:15] <latagore> turt1e: Thanks for your patience and help! :] Later
[03:15] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> sacarlson, i think you don't understand. I do not want to use Grub2, i'd like to keep using legacy with an extra entry to Ubuntu if this is possible. I know advantages of using grub2.
[03:15] <Jordan_U> asdfasdfasdfasdf: Add an entry with "root (hdX,Y); kernel /boot/grub/core.img" to fedora's menu.lst (where X and Y are replaced with the drive and partition containing Ubuntu).
[03:15] <jeapostrophe> mickster04: is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#WPA%20Supplicant a good place?
[03:16] <mickster04> yes
[03:16] <turt1e> latagore,   good night !
[03:16] <mickster04> !wpa jeapostrophe
[03:16] <mickster04> !wpa | jeapostrophe
[03:16]  * root is lost
[03:16]  * Gnea looks in /lost+found
[03:16] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Jordan_U, oh nice i thought chainloader worked for everything :D great i'll do that thanks again (oh and ayou were indeed right , under advanced option there was an option to force Ubuntu to install grub to its partition =))
[03:17] <Habstinat> mickster84: What do you mean? There was more before the part in pastebin by the way, but I didn't think it was necessary to post. I can't find gtk-config in a quick search of Synaptic if that's what you mean.
[03:17] <Jordan_U> asdfasdfasdfasdf: chainloader would work as well, but this is more reliable (doesn't use blocklists).
[03:18] <mickster04> Habstinat: well you are missing gtk stuff, but not neccessarily what you installed:p
[03:18] <tacomaster> are there any big gammers here because i wanted to ask if anyone has a opinion on which is better cedega or wine
[03:18] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Jordan_U, well unless im doing it wrong, it doesnt work. it says Error 13:Invalid... all i did was to add "title Ubuntu""rootnoverify(hdX,Y)""chainloader +1"...
[03:19] <Habstinat> mickster04: So how would I go about fixing this then? What packages would I need to install?
[03:20] <mickster04> Habstinat: not sure yet, looing
[03:20] <Jordan_U> asdfasdfasdfasdf: Did you add a space between 'rootnoverify' and '(hdX,Y)'? I assume that you replaced X and Y with actual numbers also. (and I really do recommend you use kernel rather than chainloader).
[03:21] <Habstinat> mickster04: Thanks.
[03:21] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> i did all that and there are 3 lines. one for each command.
[03:22] <mickster04> Habstinat: http://www.gtk.org/download-linux.html
[03:22] <mickster04> Habstinat: try that see if it works:p
[03:22] <mothdragon> hi guys. Programming question: I'm using ubuntu 10.04 and I'm trying to use gtkmm in code::blocks, but the compiler is not finding all the include files... I've got them installed, and I'm trying to compile the hello world example straight from the gtkmm online docs... any one encounter anything like this or know how to solve it?
[03:23] <Habstinat> mickster04: Ok, trying it now.
[03:23] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> Jordan_U, hmm hang on i think i chose ext4 as filesystem in Ubuntu partition.
[03:23] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> iirc that was a problem with grub legacy.
[03:24] <sacarlson> mothdragon: did you install  build-essential
[03:25] <mickster04> Habstinat: im off now, so keep asking around if you need more help
[03:26] <joey__> bleh. coretemp.ko doesn't know about i3-530 or i5-570 in 2.6.32; or maybe it can't since specs from itel say they don't have temp. zones? i see atom-330 support. good.
[03:27] <mothdragon> sacarlson, yes it is installed... Everything seems to be installed, but for some reason the compiler hangs on including the various gtkmm headers... such as glibmm.h
[03:29] <Eclectic> Is anyone familiar with Qimo 4 kids
[03:29] <gh> hello. I have a box with two harddrives (sda sdb) sda has ubuntu 10.04 on it and sdb has windows. Grub automatically sees it and gives me the option when I boot, however, if I select Windows the screen goes dark for a moment but then I am right back at the boot menu again. I have tried edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom with a windows entry that includes drivemap -s hd0 hd1 but the same thing happens when I try that option. any ideas? the FAQ is more for dual booting o
[03:29] <gh> n a single drive and I have two...
[03:29] <mothdragon> sacarlson, I've managed to convince it to have no problems with including gtkmm/main.h, but anything that file wants to include it can't find
[03:29] <sacarlson> mothdragon: sounds like you need the libgtkmm-XX-dev
[03:31] <Eclectic> Anyone know if Lubuntu have the same repo as Ubuntu
[03:32] <xangua> Eclectic: yes
[03:33] <gh> anyone actually know anything of value here?
[03:33] <Eclectic> xangua: thanks I'm not sure if i should install Xfce or Lxde to run Qimo 4 kids
[03:33] <ChogyDan> gh: probably not, but you could pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg    just curious
[03:33] <Jordan_U> !attitude | gh
[03:33] <joey__> gh: nothing is knowable.
[03:34] <gh> i love my attitude
[03:35] <lubuser> i got kicked... i have to register?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> gh: If you expect free support you should be sure that your attitude is one that others will love as well.
[03:35] <gh> http://pastebin.com/hHeRJqpm
[03:35] <gh> Jordan_U, please be quiet
[03:36] <IdleOne> !attitude | gh
[03:36] <gh> ChogyDan, there you will see the automatic windows 7 entry that ubuntu made by default and mine below it
[03:36] <sacarlson> gh: this probly stupid to ask but from the secound boot menu did you ever try boot windows from there?  seem I've had the problem that one grub just links to another but the secound gets me there.
[03:36] <extraclassic> gh: if you edit that 40_custom file you have to make sure others aren't executable or update grub reads those first
[03:36]  * gh sighs
[03:36] <mobasher> i'm using ndiswrapper to connect to wireless..is there a way to have interenet connection without going into the applet to search for hidden networks ?
[03:36] <gh> sacarlson, yes, over and over it keeps sending me back to the grub menu with the time reset
[03:37] <IdleOne> gh: sigh all you want but I suggest you follow our guidelines.
[03:37] <gh> IdleOne, welcome to /ignore
[03:38] <sacarlson> gh: im sure you reloaded grub2 then
[03:38] <gh> sacarlson, yep, each time after editing 40_custom
[03:38] <snow_ru> hi
[03:38] <snow_ru> hello
[03:38] <snow_ru> why ?
[03:39] <snow_ru> IdleOne, hi
[03:39] <sacarlson> gh: shouldn't need that custom thing.  maybe just do the fix from windows then fix grub after that
[03:39] <_pg_>  hardware drivers 10.04 ubuntu
[03:40] <_pg_> whoops
[03:40] <_pg_> how can i force check for hardware drivers in ubuntu-the application wont find some but i know they exist
[03:40] <ChogyDan> gh: here is my windows entry.  Maybe you can use some of the things there: http://pastebin.com/SLnf5ssy   gl
[03:40] <_pg_> also, how to get to vlc lastest from 1.0.6 thats in synaptic?
[03:41] <gh> ChogyDan, thank you, and FOR THE RECORD I was not trying to troll merely speeding up my place in line?
[03:41] <gh> ChogyDan, I have tried playing with insmod ntfs as well
[03:42] <Flannel> gh: That's not how this place works.  I strongly urge you to correct your attitude towards the denizens of this channel.
[03:42] <atm0s> Anyone here who has the patience to help a linux newbee with a question?
[03:42] <jrib> atm0s: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[03:43] <ChogyDan> gh: there really isn't a line.   I can see in gedit a location /etc/apt/sources.list   but I cant edit it
[03:44] <atm0s> I want the shell command 'apt-get update -y & apt-get upgrade -y' to run on boot before gnome starts..
[03:45] <Flannel> Guest86139: You need to use sudo (or gksu for graphical editors, such as gedit)
[03:45] <jrib> atm0s: no you don't
[03:45] <gh> ok ok, I get it, thank you for your help, I will refrain from tourette typing
[03:45] <Maahes_> !maverick
[03:45] <ZykoticK9> Guest86139, "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:45] <Guest86139> Flannel  oh thx
[03:45] <gh> pretty sure i figured it out brb with results
[03:45] <Jordan_U> gh: You accidentally installed grub to your windows partition, follow this guide to restore windows' PBR: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[03:45] <atm0s> Iḿ running Lucide server x86, booting from ISCSI with a writable filesystem that gets restored on a new session (internet cafe)..
[03:46] <gh> Jordan_U, they are on separate harddrives, but thank you
[03:46] <i33t34> hi
[03:46] <Guest86139> ZykoticK9  ok thx//  can u suggest an anonymous ip program
[03:46] <jrib> atm0s: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[03:46] <Freeheart> Does anybody know if Chrome's official packages have removed Flash? I'm not getting it to load (missing plugin) and I see that Adobe has pulled the 64-bit labs .so...
[03:47] <atm0s> jrib: thanks
[03:47] <burgjh> Man, I am still having nothing but trouble with this.
[03:47] <burgjh> Redownloaded Ubuntu.  Burned it to another DVD...tried again, same results.
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> Guest86139, "anonymous ip" no i cannot, i don't use anything like that.  Isn't that what Tor does?
[03:48] <mobasher> is there a way to have internet connection without going into the nm-applet to search for hidden networks at shell ?
[03:48] <tacomaster> quick question i have win64codecs installed and i have mplayer and smplayer but my .wmv's will not play still they worked on x86 when i had that so i know there playable
[03:49] <Maahes> !motu
[03:49] <Guest86139> ZykoticK9 I guess it does but there are missing repos and source list must be updated
[03:50] <mobasher> tacomaster>> try VLC that usually works
[03:50] <Raskah> I cannot get firefox to to play flash movies... I have installed the restricted drivers package and have also tried installing the the 3 plugins that firefox finds when I encounter the problem. They all show as installed, I have restarted the browser and still the same.
[03:50] <mobasher> Raskah> did you try to install from the synaptic ?
[03:50] <Jordan_U> Raskah: Remove all but the adobe plugin.
[03:51] <ZykoticK9> tacomaster, did you start by installing ubuntu-restriected-extras to see if that help?  encrypted/DRMed wmv may not play regardless of the codecs you have installed.  Good luck.
[03:51] <burgjh> When starting an install of Ubuntu on my mac it automatically goes to HDMI NO SIGNAL and I am unable to get anything on the screen.  Any ideas?
[03:51] <spdw> Raskah: Had the same problem, couldn't get the plugin to work no matter how hard I tried.  The latest ff update magically solved my problem.  Have you checked to see if you have the latest ff?
[03:51] <Raskah> HAHA ok so it just randomly started working after an hour as soon as I ask >_>
[03:52] <turt1e> mobasher, is this what you need http://crunchbang.org/archives/2007/12/18/configure-wireless-on-the-command-line/
[03:52] <mobasher> lol...we are all living in a unpredictable world
[03:53] <mobasher> turtle>> i have ndiswrapper does that make a difference ?
[03:53] <matrix> hi
[03:53] <^hiku> !hi | matrix
[03:54] <turt1e> mobasher,  hmmm I don't think it should.  isn't ndiswrapper just a way of using windows based drivers?
[03:54] <^hiku> yup
[03:54]  * burgjh sighs
[03:54] <^hiku> turt1e: more for networking drivers
[03:54] <burgjh> tried two different dvds also, same results.
[03:54] <mobasher> turtle>> yea apprently it talks to the network manager ..so wasn't sure if that makes any difference..this is old school p4 bro :)
[03:55] <turt1e> mobasher, never used ndiswrapper so not sure.  actually this may be a more official link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[03:55] <mhall119> Eclectic: still around?
[03:55] <^hiku> !ndiswrapper | mobasher
[03:55] <Staticlv> is there an in depth book on the use and addition/deletion of entries of repositories for 10.04?  My question is based on software that is not available via the software center and I would like updates when I sudo updates in terminal.
[03:56] <mobasher> turtle>>yea i realize that apparently the drivers supported are only working with ndiswrapper on this machine..it's p45ad2 asus board p4 system..
[03:56] <turt1e> ^hiku, thanks that's actually what I was trying to get him pointed to
[03:56] <^hiku> Staticlv: if there is a deb source url for the software you would like to install, then there shouldn't be a problem
[03:56] <^hiku> turt1e: =) np
[03:57] <mhall119> Eclectic: /join #qimo if you have questions for us
[03:57] <Raskah> what is the tool used to output the contents of a text file on command line?
[03:57] <^hiku> cat
[03:57] <mhall119> Raskah: cat
[03:57] <Raskah> tyvm
[03:57] <^hiku> np
[03:58] <^hiku> !cat
[03:58] <mobasher> turtle>> actually i playing around with some ATI drivers so just wana make sure I have network connection if the gdm goes down..i still be able to search stuff thru lynx
[03:58] <^hiku> mobasher: did you check out !ati
[03:59] <turt1e> mobasher,  if wireless is currently working with network-manager then I don't see why it shouldn't work via the command line
[03:59] <mobasher> well i'm stuck at 9.04 version..every time I upgrade the gdm dies totally now starting from scratch again..let me check it
[03:59] <mobasher> !ati
[03:59] <burgjh> Guess noone has any idea huh heh
[04:00] <^hiku> mobasher: when you upgrade a new kernel is install, so the graphics drivers will need to be upgraded manually. Alot of times with newer wireless cards this is also the case.
[04:00] <^hiku> *installed
[04:00] <^hiku> !repeat burgjh
[04:00] <spyder4> burgjh: have a VGA monitor there?
[04:01] <Staticlv> ^hiku: right, but for instance "Amaya".  I typed sudo apt-get install Amaya.  I got an error.  So I downloaded the deb file and it installed perfectly.  But i would like to add this to the repositories so if there are updates i am able to get them.
[04:01] <burgjh> unofrunatly im using a mac mini..only had HDMI inputs
[04:01] <burgjh> i tried with the DVI adapter to the monitor..same results
[04:01] <burgjh> because it plugs into the HDMI input on both monitor and mac mini even with the adapter using the dvi cable
[04:02] <burgjh> You can tell its reading the disks because you can feel and hear the drive spinning, etc
[04:02] <^hiku> Staticlv: did the software company have a url in the same format as the default ubuntu url's? did they say you can add that to the source repo file?
[04:02] <matrix> join #androidnyc
[04:03] <burgjh> and it shows the languege screen and the try ubuntu, install ubuntu or check disk for errors screen...and no matter which one I choose, the screen goes black for about 10 seconds then HDMI NO SIGNAL
[04:03] <Staticlv> ^hiku: so i need to look around the websites and see if they have instructions for adding to the repo list.  otherwise I have to watch it myself?
[04:04] <burgjh> so it is showing the disk up to a certain point
[04:04] <divo> Anyone able to help me associate SMB sharing with a folder to share from ubuntu to a windows machine on the same network?
[04:04] <^hiku> Staticlv: correct
[04:05] <^hiku> Staticlv: maybe they have an rss feed you could monitor
[04:05] <Staticlv> ^hiku: well cool and bumber.  thanks for your help.
[04:06] <^hiku> Staticlv: anytime... =)
[04:06] <Staticlv> ^hiku: i will also look for email updates and rss feeds
[04:06] <^hiku> Staticlv: there you go... forgot all about email lists
[04:06] <burgjh> i can try plugging the mac into my tv.ill brb
[04:08] <Habstinat> Hello, So here's my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487048/ My question is, what would I need to download to pass this mini test? I already have libgtk2.0-dev. Someone else was helping me with this before, but he had to leave. I just finished compiling GTK+ 2.20 through http://www.gtk.org/download-linux.html by the way, but still no dice.
[04:08] <^hiku> Habstinat: sudo apt-get install gtk2?
[04:10] <^hiku> Habstinat: or sudo apt-get install libgtk2-0
[04:10] <tacomaster> ok i installed win64codecs, ubuntu-restricted-extras, mplayer, and ,smplayer but i just get an error saying that i need to update smplayer to play it but i have done a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and no updates any thoughts
[04:10] <Habstinat> ^hiku: There is no package names "gtk2". From my research, libgtk2.0-dev is the one I want, and I already have that.
[04:10] <divo> anyone know why I wouldn't have samba share settings when I right click on a folder?
[04:10] <Izinucs> tacomaster: also do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:10] <^hiku> Habstinat: hmm,ok have you tried aptitude?
[04:11] <turt1e> divo, is samba installed?
[04:11] <tacomaster> Izinucs: ok i have done that now as well 0 upgrade 0 newly installed
[04:11] <divo> turt1e, yes
[04:11] <divo> very
[04:12] <Jordan_U> tacomaster: Can you provide an example of a file that won't play?
[04:13] <Habstinat> ^hiku: A quick search of Synaptic reveals no "libgtk2-0" package.
[04:13] <kiamo> hi, apt-get fails often during the unpacking stage.  Aptitude works fine.  What can I do to narrow down what might be causing the problem?
[04:13] <tacomaster> Jordan_U: i am trying to play CBT Nuggets CCNA
[04:13] <turt1e> so when you right click a folder you don't get the option "sharing" ?
[04:13] <divo> I have the sharing option
[04:14] <undifined> kiamo, did you do a memtest
[04:14] <^hiku> Habstinat: I see it when searching for "libgtk"
[04:14] <Jordan_U> tacomaster: I have no idea what that means :) Can you provide a link?
[04:14] <divo> just "share this folder" no option for smb
[04:14] <divo> and when I enable sharing, it doesn't connect properly on my windows PC
[04:15] <kiamo> undifined, no... but I don't really say why bad memory would only affect apt-get and nothing else.  Do I misunderstand something?
[04:15] <tacomaster> Jordan_U: well not really unless you want to torrent
[04:15] <turt1e> divo, you are trying to share a folder so a windows system can access it right?
[04:15] <divo> yes
[04:16] <Habstinat> ^hiku: Did you mean "libgtk2.0-0"? If you did, I already have that installed.
[04:16] <burgjh> Ok,  Just tried  the HDMI port in my TV.  Same results as the monitor.  Is anyone else using Ubuntu hooked up to HDMI?
[04:16] <undifined> kiamo, true, hmmm, versions of bzip zlib tar gzip  put them in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <turt1e> divo, can you elaborate on "doesn't connect properly" ?   meaning you don't see it at all or a permission problem... etc
[04:16] <Ameth> Is is possible to run ubuntu on a fake raid and is it even worth the trouble?
[04:17] <^hiku> divo: maybe this will help - http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=1590
[04:17] <Jordan_U> Ameth: Yes, and no.
[04:17] <Jordan_U> Ameth: Unless you need to dual boot with windows I would recommend just using linux software RAID.
[04:17] <^hiku> divo: are you running windows 7?
[04:17] <undifined> kiamo, bzip2 --version
[04:18] <divo> yes
[04:18] <^hiku> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1538216
[04:18] <^hiku> divo: try that link
[04:18] <kiamo> undifined, ah thanks, that was my next question hehe
[04:18] <divo> like... I installed samba, but the samba settings don't show up when I enable sharing on a folder like they used to (I reinstalled ubuntu today)
[04:18] <^hiku> divo: oh... that's odd
[04:19] <divo> only the ubuntu default share settings show up
[04:19] <Ameth> Thank you Jordan_U, I am running Windows 7 but I don't want to mess with making a fake raid if its not worth it.
[04:19] <jamesklyne> dont you have to open samba under the admin menu after install and add user and shares?
[04:19] <Jordan_U> Ameth: You're welcome.
[04:19] <Ameth> I rather just spend the money to buy a real riad card
[04:19] <divo> I've added users and share permissions
[04:19] <Ameth> *raid
[04:20] <jamesklyne> I share videos and music over to a modded wii using sambu on my comp
[04:20] <jamesklyne> it's linux mint 9, but based on ubuntu lucid
[04:20] <jamesklyne> *samba
[04:20] <Jordan_U> Ameth: You can always use Software RAID with linux but not windows, depending of course on how often / why you use windows.
[04:21] <divo> like... yes, I was able to share this folder no problem last night. after reinstalling, I just don't have the option to choose the sharing gateway (?)
[04:21] <kiamo> undifined, http://paste.ubuntu.com/487063/
[04:21] <jamesklyne> anyone know how to hide channel notifications in xchat?
[04:21] <matrix> dual boot is not recommended
[04:22] <Habstinat> ^hiku: So do you have any other suggestions?
[04:22] <^hiku> jamesklyne: try- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315262
[04:22] <^hiku> Habstinat: sorry.. I don't get it...  In case you didn't catch my problem before: Hello, So here's my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/487048/ My question is, what would I need to download to pass this mini test? I already have libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk2.0-0. Two other people were helping me with this before, but one had to leave and one couldn't solve the problem. I just finished compiling GTK+ 2.20 through http://www.gtk.org/download-linux.html by the way, b
[04:25] <Habstinat> ut still no dice.
[04:25] <FloodBot2> Habstinat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:26] <coz_> Habstinat,   what is the "mini test" ?
[04:26]  * Sir_Letos is away: I'm away
[04:26] <Habstinat> coz_: I'm trying to compile this Genesis emulator: http://www.squish.net/generator/cbiere/generator/
[04:26]  * kiamo has quit (Ping timeout: 300 seconds)
[04:27] <flyguy> hi
[04:27] <coz_> Habstinat,  ok let me take a look at this and try it out... hold on... if I get this i will let you know
[04:27] <flyguy> is there a program or way to do total encrpytion of the hard drive
[04:27] <flyguy> and still be able to use ubutnu?
[04:27] <kiamo> flyguy, yes.  But as far as I'm aware you have to do it when you format and partition the hard drive
[04:28] <Habstinat> coz_: The "mini test" I'm talking about is how it checks for a bunch of packages, and you can only compile it if you have them all, and what's in the pastebin are the two packages out of the many that it thought I didn't have.
[04:28] <jamesklyne> did you set the smb shares as visible?
[04:28] <Habstinat> coz_: Thanks a lot by the way.
[04:29] <Xavierdarkness> New Ubuntu user, what steps should I take to secure my system?
[04:30] <kiamo> Xavierdarkness, Update it
[04:30] <zcat[1]> Xavierdarkness, install software only through package management, and don't use root except for 'admin' tasks where you really have to
[04:30] <Xavierdarkness> Any need for antivirus?
[04:30] <kiamo> nope
[04:30] <undifined> kiamo, i am not sure, I was thinking of md5sum a file, compressing it, decompressing it and do md5sum again
[04:31] <zcat[1]> find me an ubuntu virus... ;)
[04:31] <w1n5ton> How would I cut a small clip from a video?
[04:31] <kiamo> Xavierdarkness, not unless you also use windows machines.
[04:31] <undifined> zcat[1], tht would be xchat
[04:31] <flyguy> kiamo, what is the ability called?
[04:31] <zcat[1]> what's wrong with xchat? other than being a huge time-vampire...
[04:31] <turt1e> divo,   sorry stepped away.  so you just reinstalled samba?
[04:32] <divo> sorry... reinstalled ubuntu
[04:32] <kiamo> flyguy, Im not sure..  give me a minute to google
[04:32] <divo> This is how it worked out for me when I installed the first time:http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/
[04:32] <Xavierdarkness> Most of the systems in my house are running windows. I actually switched after windows bluescreened on my laptop
[04:32] <kiamo> undifined, give me a mo, then I will figure out how to do that hehe
[04:32] <undifined> zcat[1], there are malwares though
[04:32] <divo> Now, the only settings I have in shared folders are : http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8405/screenshotvideoproperti.png
[04:33] <undifined> kiamo, :)
[04:33] <zcat[1]> undifined, so only install software through package management...
[04:33] <zcat[1]> there's no malware in the repos
[04:33] <divo> vs. http://www.simplehelp.net/images/sharedubuntu/fileshare03.png
[04:33] <turt1e> divo, that image you posted is the same share info I get on my system running ubuntu 10.04
[04:34] <zcat[1]> I don't think there's any serious malware anywhere else that targets Linux, but in theory there's just as much risk from a trojan .deb as from a trojan .msi or .dmg....
[04:34] <jamesklyne> divo: i used the system-config-samba package to configure my smb.  works great
[04:34] <undifined> zcat[1], true, but there are broken applications that aren't to be fixed
[04:34] <kiamo> flyguy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto   I haven't read this but it looks like it might be useful to you.  It's been aaaages since I set up an encrypted filesystem, and I've only done it once.  GL :)
[04:34] <jamesklyne> divo: the built in folder sharing did not work for me
[04:35] <undifined> kiamo, I do have to warn on ecryption
[04:35] <turt1e> divo, the 2nd image you posted.... is that from an ubuntu 10.04 install?  or from a prior version of ubuntu?
[04:35] <undifined> flyguy, do encryption initially on a testbed
[04:35] <spoken> hello
[04:36] <undifined> flyguy, i encrypted /home/$user and found certain apps could not handle it
[04:36] <Verminator> hello spoken
[04:36] <Maahes> where does ubuntu store downloaded packages again?
[04:36] <zcat[1]> I should reinstall my laptop fully encrypted.. running it at the moment with no login password, no screensaver/hibernate password, and insecure password storage,
[04:36] <divo> turt1e: that was the same settings I had previously on 10.04
[04:36] <spoken> i'm looking for some help on the network manager applet - it seems to have disappeared from my new 10.04 install
[04:36] <divo> those were*
[04:36] <spoken> but I have notification panel on
[04:37] <kiamo> undifined, any particular compression you want me to use?  Or should I just try them all...?
[04:37] <bastidrazor> Maahes: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:37] <zcat[1]> but if it ever gets stolen it wget's my homepage as a cron job.. so I have an IP to track down as soon as they connect to the web anywhere
[04:37]  * Maahes would like the ability to have a "live" distro with a login setup (for usb) and an encrypted persistence volume
[04:37] <undifined> kiamo highest would be best
[04:37] <divo> anyway, thanks for trying, but I gotta take off
[04:37] <Maahes> thankyou bastidrazor
[04:37] <divo> I'll try to figure it our tomorrow
[04:37] <divo> night all
[04:37] <bastidrazor> Maahes: you're welcome
[04:37] <undifined> kiamo, we want to trigger behaviour to reporduce
[04:38] <oliizme> any one know what drivers to use with the new touchpad of sony saio ???
[04:38] <zcat[1]> halfway through writing a script so it will also report any AP's nearby, which I can look up the location of through google
[04:39] <undifined> kiamo, md5sum $file && bzip2 $file && bunzip2 $file && md5sum $file
[04:40] <coz_> Habstinat, so far no luck with that particular emulator compile
[04:40] <aetaric> zcat[1]: how does that looking up on google bit work?
[04:40] <coz_> Habstinat,  hold on
[04:40] <kiamo> undifined, highest?  Which one is the highest compression lol?
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, if you are interested in any sega emulation, I'd highly recommend you try out gens, or gens-gs
[04:40] <tacomaster> if i have a 64 bit prossesor i have a i686 right?
[04:40] <jamesklyne> divo:  http://lh3.ggpht.com/_en_S6JwItgo/TH8cS_nonOI/AAAAAAAAADs/g3BOssyg1mQ/s1024/smbscreen.png
[04:40] <jamesklyne> ahh damn
[04:40] <undifined> kiamo, bzip2 --best
[04:41] <Habstinat> coz_: Ok, and ZykoticK9: I may try that as a last resort, but I really want to get this specific emulator running.
[04:41] <undifined> kiamo, man bzip2
[04:41] <coz_> Habstinat,  is this one generator particularly special in some way?  have you tried  dgen
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> tacomaster, 64bit is x86_64 from "uname -m"
[04:41] <coz_> Habstinat,  ok let me continue to search for the problem
[04:41] <zcat[1]> aetaric, there's a website you can look up the MAC address, google streetview cars record the approx location of any AP they pass, so if you know a few MAC addresses you can get a pretty accurate picture of where the laptop is
[04:42] <tacomaster> ZykoticK9: so x86 is i386 and x86_64 is just x86_64?
[04:42] <Starcraftmazter> Does anyone know if the current proprietry ATI driver in ubuntu 10.04 does eyeinfinity? Or can run 2 monitors in any way?
[04:42] <rammslindo> hi everybody. i'm with troubles in my ubuntu. could some one help me?
[04:42] <Habstinat> coz_: Yes, I have tried dgen. It just gives me a black box when I try to open Zero Wing (And I tried with two different (or... same) Zero Wing roms).
[04:42] <aetaric> zcat[1]: do you have the site?
[04:42] <rammslindo> hi everybody. i'm with troubles in my ubuntu. could some one help me?
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> tacomaster, i think you have it?
[04:43] <coz_> Habstinat,  mm  ok  give a few minutes here
[04:43] <undifined> zcat[1], that is great, but google went through my town but skipped my street
[04:43] <Habstinat> coz_: Ok, thanks a lot for your help :)
[04:43] <jk_> tacomaster, the i386 versions don't include Pentium and later optimizations; i686 ones do. Both are for 32-bit x86 architecture.
[04:43] <rammslindo> My ubuntu 10.04 is too slow in my quad core.
[04:44] <zcat[1]> they got mine.. and all the AP's in range of my house. Can't find the page I looked them up on but mine was listed as being just two houses out from where I actually live.. pretty close
[04:44] <undifined> rammslindo, odd
[04:44] <chris_osx> rammslindo: what quad core?
[04:44] <tacomaster> jk_: then what is the one for 64 bit like i have?
[04:44] <chris_osx> core 2 quad?
[04:44] <kiamo> undifined, oh I see, I meant whether to check bzip2 or gzip or rar.
[04:45] <coz_> Habstinat,  I did find an ubuntu post with a deb package for this generator but apparenlty the guy who created has taken the link down hold on
[04:45] <jk_> tacomaster, x86_64 or in some cases they may be called amd_64. the amd_64 packages work with Intel also.
[04:45] <undifined> kiamo, bzip2 was developed later
[04:45] <rammslindo> chris_osx, i'm sory?
[04:45] <rammslindo> chris_osx, i'm sory?
[04:45] <kiamo> undifined, checsums are all the same
[04:46] <oliizme> any one know what drivers to use with the new touchpad of sony saio ???
[04:46] <rammslindo> chris_osx, ah ok, yes. i have a core 2 quad
[04:46] <kiamo> checked bzip2, bzip2 best, and gzip
[04:46] <undifined> kiamo, ok, then we try gzip
[04:46] <coz_> Habstinat,   that post says that the one you want will not work on curren tubuntu and instead links to this site   http://segaretro.org/Gens/GS?rdfrom=http%3A%2F%2Finfo.sonicretro.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DGens%2FGS%26redirect%3Dno
[04:46] <undifined> kiamo, and then tar
[04:46] <chris_osx> rammslindo: how can ubuntu 10.04 be slow on your machine, that's weird
[04:46] <Shaun_> need help. my ubuntu 10.04 won't connect to wireless network!!!!
[04:46] <kiamo> undifined, not sure how to check tar... its weird lol
[04:46] <alazyworkaholic> I'm trying to get my CPU to run a little cooler so I dropped the cpu voltage in bios by about .075v. Ubuntu still works fine, & I can even get virtualbox winxp to work without any problems, but after ubuntu boots to the desktop, my keyboard only gets power after a couple minutes, & my mouse (which does get power) only starts to work after I switch alt-F1 to terminal & back, if I'm lucky. Does that make any sense?
[04:47] <kiamo> undifined, give me a mo to man it
[04:47] <fudge99> does ubuntu universe get any security updates?
[04:47] <coz_> Habstinat,  the original post    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451647    the linked post   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290008   and finally the redirected page   http://segaretro.org/Gens/GS?rdfrom=http%3A%2F%2Finfo.sonicretro.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DGens%2FGS%26redirect%3Dno
[04:47] <mjm> hi
[04:47] <Habstinat> coz_: Oh :(. Know of any good Genesis emulators besides dgen then?
[04:47] <rammslindo> chris_osx, i'm think the same. but when i install the version, my system have a weird behavior.
[04:48] <coz_> Habstinat,  isnt this one   http://segaretro.org/Gens/GS?rdfrom=http%3A%2F%2Finfo.sonicretro.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DGens%2FGS%26redirect%3Dno
[04:48] <fudge99> are the packages in universe synced with debian at all for security?
[04:48] <Shaun_> any help concerning how to connect to wireless? im running wubi
[04:48] <coz_> Habstinat,  I dont know of any off hand no  but hold on
[04:48] <Habstinat> coz_: Oh yea, sorry, gonna try to download that one now then.
[04:49] <hanasaki> what will record a screen session so it can be played back? on win and linux playback... not the whole screen.  just the webbrowser
[04:49] <undifined> kiamo, tar -cvf $file
[04:49] <kiamo> undifined, "tar c filename"  is that syntax ok?
[04:49] <kiamo> aaaaaah good timing lol
[04:49] <sudokode> don't forget the f
[04:49] <undifined> :)
[04:49] <coz_> Habstinat,  good luck with that :)   that is about the most info i can find ...you could google with this search string    ubuntu sega emulators
[04:49] <rammslindo> chris_osx, do you know when the computer is using 100% of memory and cpu. it becomes too slow....
[04:50] <rammslindo> chris_osx, do you know when the computer is using 100% of memory and cpu? it becomes too slow....
[04:50] <kiamo> undifined, tar called me a coward ! lol!!
[04:50] <jamesklyne> yeah odd.  It runs fast on my dual core.  Trade?
[04:50] <Shaun_> HELP guys!!!!!!!
[04:50] <rammslindo> chris_osx, but there not a hard process running.
[04:51] <undifined> lol @ Shaun
[04:51] <rammslindo> im my notebook the same version, installed with the same cd is running ok.
[04:52] <jamesklyne> never used wubi sorry
[04:53] <coty91> I'v been wondering what the big difference other than aesthetics of new Ubuntu upgrades; what is being improved that would make an upgrade worth the time.
[04:53] <zeno> coty91, I'd guess security and optimization
[04:53] <Habstinat> coz_: Aaargh :P Gens/GS doesn't support my 64-bit computer... Going to look for some others.
[04:54] <coty91> well that sounds logical, zeno.
[04:54] <coz_> Habstinat,  oh man
[04:54] <coz_> Habstinat,  this is turning out to be a pain :)
[04:54] <kiamo> undifined, good call!  checksum is different after untarring
[04:54] <coz_> Habstinat,  I am sure one will show up... trust google for this one :)
[04:54] <undifined> kiamo, oh dear ..
[04:55] <undifined> kiamo,  tar --version   tar (GNU tar) 1.23
[04:55] <sacarlson> Habstinat: what is gens/gs?  video card?
[04:56] <mjm> 11
[04:56] <mjm> nice
[04:56] <kiamo> undifined,  iv only got 1.22
[04:56] <coz_> Habstinat,   unfortunately I have to get to bed... but if you find one that is near what you want...let me know...the info could come in handy :)
[04:57] <Habstinat> coz_: Ok, I will. Thanks a lot for your help too.
[04:57] <undifined> kiamo, http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/tar.html
[04:57] <coz_> Habstinat,  no problem sorry I couldnt find one for you
[04:57] <Habstinat> sacarlson: It's a Genesis emulator.
[04:58] <undifined> kiamo, http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/
[04:58] <sacarlson> Habstinat: ya I looked back 2 pages and found your post.  I run 32bit virtualbox in my 64bit system if that would help.  you can run it in there I guess.
[04:59] <aghh> Hello?
[04:59] <Habstinat> @sacarlson, Maybe, but I think I may be able to get http://www.squish.net/generator/download.html working. Trying it now.
[04:59] <sacarlson> Habstinat: what I mean is you can run a ubuntu 32bit inside ubuntu 64bit in virtualbox.  that's what I had to do to get my canon printer to work.
[04:59] <sacarlson> Habstinat: ok
[05:00] <undifined> kiamo, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+package/tar
[05:00] <aghh> Big linux noob here. Just booted Backtrack 4 from a flash drive and now I can't boot Windows. Can anyone help me? I'm pretty desperate to fix this.
[05:00] <sailerboy> aghh, you may want to check out #backtrack
[05:00] <sailerboy> this is for ubuntu
[05:01] <aghh> Right, sorry guys.
[05:01] <Habstinat> sacarlson: I understand, but it would be better to have one that runs without virtualization if possible, because that's a pain to start up every time you want to just run an emulator and it takes up quite a bit of resources :P
[05:01] <Shaun_> need help, my newly installed ubuntu 10.04 won't connect and cant even detect my wireless network!!!!
[05:01] <sacarlson> Habstinat: true
[05:02] <kiamo> undifined, so is 1.22 what is used in lucid?  If so, shouldn't other people be experiencing problems?
[05:03] <jeapostrophe> my system hangs on /scripts/init-bottom ?
[05:03] <jeapostrophe> what does that mean?
[05:03] <undifined> kiamo, yours may be damaged or you're experiancing one of the bugs that got fixed
[05:04] <kiamo> undifined, aye, can i just compile it over the top, or should I remove the current tar version?
[05:04] <undifined> kiamo, try the launchpad version first
[05:05] <zetheroo1> I have an ongoing issue with 2 desktops here both running a fresh install of 10.04 and fully updated ...  basically when powering on it will 8 times out of 10 take forever for the grub menu to show up ... and sometimes it never does and your have to reset the system .... Why is this happening?
[05:05] <chris_osx> where can i read about the recent ubuntu kernel update?
[05:06] <xnixan> Hi,
[05:06] <xnixan> i have .net application that runs on a Windows server, and the clients are Windows Xp work stations, i will install mono on my ubuntu box to connect to that server, but what shall i do to  run the client application and let it use mono instead of .net frame work, BTW that application uses ver 3.5, .... Thanks!
[05:06] <Jordan_U> zetheroo1: Is there hard drive access during this time? Do you always see "GRUB" if you hold shift while booting?
[05:07] <flyguy> windows has bitlocker, does ubuntu have anything similar?
[05:07] <muellisoft> zetheroo1: hm. I have similiar issues when I have a CDROM in my drive.
[05:07] <zetheroo1> Jordan_U: sometimes there is hdd access and sometimes none ... as in either the hdd LED is solid red or it's off altogether
[05:07] <Muelli> xnixan: install mono.
[05:07] <zetheroo1> Jordan_U: I have not tried with SHIFT down
[05:08] <zetheroo1> muellisoft: no CDrom in here ...
[05:08] <Muelli> Shaun: hm. sounds like you're lacking a driver.
[05:08] <oliizme> any one know what drivers to use with the touchpad of sony saio ???
[05:09] <Jordan_U> flyguy: Yes, there are a few options for file / disk encryption in Ubuntu. I recommend using the encrypted home option in the installer.
[05:10] <karma_police> i'm not sure what its called but in windoze i could click with the mouse wheel and scroll up or down by moving the mouse... is that something available in linux?
[05:10] <zetheroo1> Jordan_U: the odd thing is that it seems to only be occurring on desktops ... I have 4 laptops running Ubuntu and none have this issue
[05:10] <sailerboy> karma_police, that's called autoscroll
[05:10] <sailerboy> what web browser are you using?
[05:10] <xnixan> Muelli, i had already installed mono vie badgeports.org, but sorry for that question, what shall i do after that, i know how to run win app with wine, but how to run win app that needs .net frame work with mono, thanks
[05:10] <Jordan_U> chris_osx: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+changelog , though that's a bit terse.
[05:11] <Muelli> xnixan: mono yourapp.exe
[05:11] <xnixan> LOL
[05:11] <xnixan> that's it!!!
[05:11] <karma_police> cool.. ty.. just googled instructions.. never knew what that was called..lol
[05:11] <xnixan> Muelli, thanks, i will do it!
[05:12] <undifined> kiamo, how are things going ?
[05:12] <Jordan_U> zetheroo1: My guess is that you have grub installed to a different drive than the one holding your /boot partition, but that shouldn't be causing slow downs like this in lucid's grub2.
[05:12] <karma_police> any new knews for netflix streaming or moonlight?
[05:12] <karma_police> news*
[05:12] <flyguy> jordan, that encrypts only the home directory not the whole drivge4, right?
[05:13] <Jordan_U> flyguy: Yes, but generally the only sensitive information is going to be in /home. You can also do full disk encryption but I don't think there is any point to that in most cases.
[05:14] <Xavierdarkness> Oh, so "encrypt underlying drive" meant /home?
[05:14] <undifined> flyguy, I have tried encryption on my admin user, hmmm, i really had issues there
[05:15] <chris_osx> Jordan_U: thanks
[05:15] <Jordan_U> chris_osx: You're welcome.
[05:20] <Starcraftmazter> Does anyone know if the current proprietry ATI driver in ubuntu 10.04 does eyeinfinity? Or can run 2 monitors in any way?
[05:20] <kiamo> undifined, I have to go out :(  Thanks for you're help, I will persevere later :)
[05:21] <undifined> I'll be around
[05:23] <jeapostrophe> any idea why my system would hang after /scripts/init-bottom?
[05:23] <Staticlv> has anyone noticed the relationship between the latest kernel updates and the new adobe 10 update to the adobe in firefox dragging and not running smoothly?
[05:24] <punto> hi.. how do I change the font on the virtual terminals back to the original one?
[05:25] <punto> (the terminals that show up when I press alt+ctrl+f1, etc)
[05:25] <jeapostrophe> punto: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[05:26] <turt1e> punto,  I don't know... but I am curious as to how you changed it to begin with
[05:26] <punto> turt1e: it changes on its own to a skinny one
[05:30] <punto> ok, that's better, thanks
[05:31] <mintypu> hi every one
[05:31] <oliizme> hi
[05:31] <mintypu> can someone help me get my system running again
[05:32] <jeapostrophe> mintypu: i've broken my systems about six ways recently, maybe you've done a similar thing and i can help, but i'm no expert
[05:33] <undifined> !ask
[05:35] <mintypu> while using my pc update manager came up to download and install routine security updates after it had finished I was prompted to restart my computer when I did this is the message I am getting after the post screen
[05:35] <sacarlson> instead of all this bad news we normaly see here, I have good news.  my flash video play seems smooth now in full screen mode after I installed my nvidia propriatary drivers.  before at full screen like in youtube it was slow to update the screen.
[05:36] <undifined> great sacarlson
[05:36] <hanasaki> how can I keep dansguardian from predownloading all videos before sending them to the client?
[05:36] <mintypu> (udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured
[05:36] <mintypu> can any one help with this
[05:36] <brandon420> yo, whats a good light weight, easy to use file manager?
[05:37] <brandon420> helllo?!
[05:37] <Sagan> brandon420: thunar
[05:37] <brandon420> woot
[05:37] <brandon420> thanks man
[05:38] <brandon420> i <3 this channel, gives me all my answers
[05:40] <turt1e> sacarlson,  how is your cpu usage when playing a flash enabled site like youtube?
[05:40] <undifined> brandon420, 42
[05:41] <sacarlson> turt1e: don't know never checked,  I'll take a look
[05:41] <MadRobot> Hi all.
[05:41] <MadRobot> Is boxee removed from the Ubuntu repos.?
[05:41] <MadRobot> Was*
[05:41] <mintypu> can any one tell me what does this message mean udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured
[05:41] <illac> MadRobot: yea, but there is a .deb download I think
[05:43] <MadRobot> illac, yup.
[05:44] <MadRobot> illac, thanks.
[05:45] <sacarlson> turt1e: i'm not sure how to check when it's running in full screen but even when not in full screen it seems to us 100% of one cpu full system shows as much as 60% cpu use
[05:48] <turt1e> sacarlson,  yeah mine will usually peg one cpu to 60% to 80%.  I swear adobe flash player is a bloated mess
[05:48] <muntyan> hi. does someone know where to get sources for http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v<IP_ADDRESS>-maverick/ ?
[05:51] <jb__> hello. anyone knows where the lock for synaptic is located?
[05:55] <tracy69> guys is there a way to check up ATI gpu Load and ati GPU temp in ubuntu ?
[05:57] <sacarlson> jb__: is your lock permanent after reboot?
[05:58] <plouffe> jb__, how about this one /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:59] <jb__> thanks, that's what i did
[05:59] <jb__> now it says i should run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to correct the problem cause dpkg was interrupted :(
[06:00] <tracy69> guys is there a way to check up ATI gpu Load and ati GPU temp in ubuntu ?
[06:00] <jb__> hm okay... it's still stuck!!
[06:01] <jb__> now dpkg retries to install the package that hung synaptic
[06:01] <Jordan_U> jb__: Did you reboot before trying to run dpkg again? removing lock files should only be done if you are absolutely sure there will be no conflicts.
[06:01] <plouffe> tracy69, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1566126
[06:01] <jb__> jb@desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:01] <jb__> [sudo] password for jb:
[06:01] <jb__> Paramétrage de firefox (3.6.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[06:01] <jb__> Please restart all running instances of firefox, or you will experience problems.
[06:02] <FloodBot2> jb__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:02] <jb__> it just hangs there... any idea?
[06:02] <IdleOne> jb__: killall firefox
[06:02] <jb__> no process found :p
[06:03] <tracy69> plouffe,  u know this is my tread :)
[06:03] <jb__> it all started when i upgraded firefox
[06:03] <Guest12986> how can you recover data using ubuntu?
[06:03] <IdleOne> jb__: try sudo apt-get install -f
[06:04] <jb__> i think firefox-branding is the package that caused the hang
[06:04] <jb__> then i had to kill synaptic
[06:05] <sacarlson> jb__: you seems you might have more than one problem.  in firefox can you try safe-mode?
[06:05] <jb__> firefox seems to work fine
[06:06] <sacarlson> jb__: ok so in synaptic can you see what packages are broken?
[06:07] <jb__> IdleOne, it's the same.. it says dpkg was interrupted, and i need to run manually: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:07] <Hounddog> hi, i am somehow not able to get ubuntu server running on a system... i am just getting to the point after the hd check and then getting "loading operating system" which is stuck... i pushed a pxe harddrive image over from ubuntu desktop and that one is booting...
[06:07] <jb__> and doing that hangs again
[06:07] <Hounddog> now my guess is that something is wrong in grub
[06:08] <Hounddog> is it possible to start the system from usb and just put grub on to the usb stick?
[06:08] <jb__> I guess soemthing is broken :(
[06:08] <Hounddog> just for checking purpose
[06:08] <IdleOne> jb__: ok I hate to say this but try a reboot, not sure how that will help if any.
[06:08] <jb__> thx I'll try that then
[06:08] <jb__> should i remove  /var/lib/dpkg/lock first?
[06:09] <IdleOne> sure, that doesn't hurt
[06:09] <vaibhav> how to specify a specific folder for dpkg
[06:09] <ramon> hi all
[06:10] <ramon> im having trouble with the volume controls on my multimedia keyboard
[06:10] <sacarlson> Hounddog: seem's you already booted with pxeboot with success?
[06:10] <Hounddog> yes pxeboot runs and i was able to install the ubuntu desktop per pxe and is booting then also normally
[06:11] <BiggFREE> How can I know which settings version of menuconfig are current ?
[06:11] <Hounddog> if i install debian/ubuntu server it is not starting
[06:11] <sacarlson> Hounddog: so if that works why do you need a usb boot?
[06:11] <Hounddog> because i do nopt have a pxe boot
[06:11] <Hounddog> i only put the clonezilla image per pxe
[06:12] <Hounddog> and that is ubuntu desktop... i require the ubuntu server
[06:12] <ramon> does anyone know anything about getting multimedia HIDs to work?
[06:13] <Hounddog> i did not want to have the drbl server in my virtualbox running all the time.
[06:13] <jb__> it's still the same.. synaptic fails on startup with: E: dpkg a été interrompu, vous devez lancer manuellement 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' pour corriger le problème.
[06:13] <jb__> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[06:13] <Hounddog> sacarlson you understood what i mean?
[06:13] <faizaff> Hi!
[06:14] <jb__> woa this time the command worked
[06:14] <sacarlson> Hounddog: well I guess you didn't setup pxe to boot ubuntu,  do you have ubuntu on something else then?  with that you can create a usbboot disk
[06:14] <BiggFREE> How can I know which settings version of menuconfig are current ? Are they corresponding to the current kernel ?
[06:15] <jb__> IdleOne, okay, it seems fixed now lol :) thx
[06:15] <IdleOne> jb__: glad to hear it
[06:15] <jb__> weird shit anyway
[06:15] <BiggFREE> How can I know which settings version of menuconfig are current ? Is it corresponding to the current kernel ?
[06:15] <Hounddog> sacarlson one min... i think you are confusing something... this is not a pxe issue.
[06:15] <faizaff> Need some help, facing problems in booting ubuntu, first the screen was blank but the system started any way, now it shows an error of screen resolution not mathing out of range like
[06:15] <IdleOne> !repeat | BiggFREE
[06:15] <IdleOne> jb__: watch the language please
[06:15] <BiggFREE> IdleOne: Sure :)
[06:15] <jb__> sure
[06:16] <sacarlson> Hounddog: your question was can I create a usb boot disk answer is yes
[06:16] <Hounddog> sacarlson ok :)
[06:17] <faizaff> someone for me please
[06:18] <faizaff> Booting problem in Ubuntu lucid, error horizantal and vertical frequencies out of range!
[06:18] <faizaff> How do I correct this, help pl.
[06:18] <sudokode> problem with your xorg.conf
[06:18] <sacarlson> faizaff:  does it have propriatary drivers installed?
[06:19] <Hounddog> sacarlson will check out how to do it then
[06:19] <faizaff> how to correct it!
[06:19] <faizaff> Now I am contacting you through mint linux live
[06:19] <sacarlson> Hounddog: you can do it with ubuntu but I"m not sue you have a ubuntu system that is running.
[06:19] <sudokode> get into a terminal and try moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup for starters
[06:20] <Hounddog> sacarlson i just took a backup of the system which is not running and checking it in virtualbox
[06:20] <sudokode> if X won't start, you may need to try Xorg -configure to see if it can autodetect some proper settings
[06:20] <sudokode> one step at a time though
[06:20] <faizaff> Scarlson, please let me know how I will be able to correct this
[06:20] <sudokode> faizaff: pay attention!
[06:21] <BiggFREE_> How can I know which settings version of menuconfig are current ? Is it matching to the current kernel ?
[06:21] <bastidrazor> sudokode: address the person and they will know your comments are for them.
[06:21] <sacarlson> faizaff: you didn't answer my question.  is this a fresh install or did you install video drivers?
[06:21] <faizaff> From mint linux how do I go to lucid, the command pl. I am a new bee!
[06:22] <sudokode> lol...
[06:22] <faizaff> Scarlson everthing was installed and working correctly suddenly the problem has crept up!
[06:22] <Hounddog> in 5 minutes i will now if the install is working... i can also exclude a hardware, i have 2 servers with same hardware and both have same problem
[06:23] <bastidrazor> faizaff: there is no magical command. you would need to install from an Ubuntu CD to do what you're wanting.
[06:23] <Xavierdarkness> What's a good firewall program?
[06:23] <faizaff> Ok boot from cd than!
[06:24] <bastidrazor> !firewall | Xavierdarkness
[06:24] <adante> hi, macbooks use pc hardware now right? i should be able to use a ubuntu cd based off've ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso without trouble?
[06:24] <faizaff> Scarlson: after booting from cd, how do I go to the installed version to correct!
[06:24] <sacarlson> faizaff: if it worked before you eather upgraded your kernel or installed drivers.  you can try boot the older kernel if you upgraded or you can rename the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to disable the drivers
[06:25] <faizaff> Just explain me that how to..
[06:25] <sacarlson> I don't know witch you did
[06:26] <traskmind> I'm using the Emerald window decorator in my GNOME 10.04, and I changed my pointer icon to one other than the default (White DMZ) one, and the pointer has changed in my applications, but not on my window decoration and not on my desktop, what's wrong, and how can I fix this? (Can provide version numbers of applications if necessary)
[06:26] <faizaff> I corrected my monitor settings in Nvidya settings after updating the drivers
[06:26] <sacarlson> faizaff: ok then that's probly it
[06:26] <BiggFREE_> sacarlson: I think that the most recent kernel updates stop supporting 1024*768 config
[06:26] <bastidrazor> !emerald | traskmind
[06:27] <faizaff> So how do I proceed
[06:27] <sacarlson> BiggFREE_: faizaff:  ok then we should disable the drivers
[06:27] <faizaff> How to do that?
[06:27] <sacarlson> faizaff:  in the cd boot Places>Computer
[06:27] <BiggFREE_> sacarlson: I did not try it :(
[06:28] <BiggFREE_> sacarlson: I am still looking for a solution
[06:28] <sacarlson> BiggFREE_: you didn't try to disable it?
[06:28] <faizaff> Some easy way?
[06:28] <BiggFREE_> sacarlson: I did not think about this solution
[06:28] <sacarlson> faizaff:  are you at Places>Computer yet?
[06:29] <sacarlson> faizaff:  click the drive that you have your system boot from
[06:29] <BiggFREE_> sacarlson: I ignore how I can do it.
[06:29] <faizaff> yes I did
[06:30] <traskmind> bastidrazor, okay, I suppose it really is Emerald, thank you for the information. I'll look to see if I can find any fixes for it.
[06:30] <faizaff> sacarlson: yes I did! I can see the folders now
[06:30] <sacarlson> faizaff:  ok from a terminal cd /media
[06:30] <bastidrazor> traskmind: i too was a big fan of emerald several years ago. i was sad to see it dropped.
[06:31] <traskmind> bastidrazor, only problem I'm having with it is the cursor..
[06:31] <BiggFREE_> sacarlson: I am using UBUNTU as a VM in VirtualBox though.
[06:32] <faizaff> yes done
[06:32] <sacarlson> faizaff:  in the media dir ls
[06:32] <sacarlson> faizaff:  the you should see your mounted disk cd into that
[06:33] <BiggFREE_> How can I know which settings version of menuconfig are current ? Is it matching to the current kernel ?
[06:33] <faizaff> No such file or directory
[06:33] <sacarlson> faizaff:  try sudo su
[06:33] <Peter-C|lappy> Oh shit... http://hehtrain.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-vandalize-wikipedia.html
[06:34] <crekarasu> anyone know to install gnuworld ?
[06:34] <sacarlson> faizaff: and try cd into the dir that you mounted
[06:34] <IdleOne> !ot | Peter-C|lappy
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> traskmind, i imagine it's actually a compiz issue over an emerald one (in this particular case), compiz seems to be having issues with mouse pointers these days, disabling compiz will often get customized cursors working properly.  just a guess mind you, best of luck.
[06:34] <Peter-C|lappy> WOOPS WRONG CHAN ><
[06:34] <faizaff> Unknown id: dir
[06:34] <Peter-C|lappy> Sorry!
[06:35] <Peter-C|lappy> IdleOne, sorry, normally on my old computer the wiki channel opens, not ubuntu, 100% sorry :S
[06:35] <faizaff> Well I am chatting through linux mint and not ubuntu live cd for your info may be that is causing the delay
[06:35] <sacarlson> faizaff: if you ever get into the dir you want to cd etc/X11/
[06:35] <traskmind> ZykoticK9, I found a possible fix that changes the default cursor theme from DMZ-White to whatever I choose. Gonna re-log and see if it works.
[06:35] <zyy> dajia
[06:36] <zyy> 不知道
[06:36] <sacarlson> faizaff:  is this mint running on the same system as you plan to boot?
[06:36] <faizaff> Yeah
[06:36] <snow_ru> zyy go away
[06:36] <snow_ru> we do not accept this language here
[06:36] <logan_wolf> yeah
[06:37] <crekarasu> anyone know to install gnuworld ?
[06:37] <snow_ru> what for ?
[06:37] <maco> snow_ru: 1) zyy already left 2) that was a bit rude of a way to say that
[06:37] <traskmind> ZykoticK9, and it did. Thanks for the info though :)
[06:37] <sacarlson> faizaff:  when you get to the dir X11  then ls  and see if you see a file xorg.conf  if you do rename it   rn xorg.conf xorg.conf.org