[01:29] <iBelieve> nik90_, ping
[08:40] <labsin> What hour is the Ubuntu App Showdown deadline?
[08:44] <wellsb> labsin: Today at 23:59 UTC
[08:46] <smartboyhw> So, 7 hours and 14 minutes away
[08:46] <labsin> Thanx
[08:48] <wellsb> smartboyhw, labsin:  I think midnight UTC is 15 hours away?
[08:48] <labsin> 13h
[08:48] <labsin> no indeed
[08:49] <labsin> Or is it English time? Thats UTC+1 now (summertime)
[08:49] <labsin> Anyhow, I'm off, by and tnx
[08:50] <smartboyhw> wellsb, my fault, I don't normally mistaken UTC with local time, but I did:(
[08:52] <wellsb> There's nothing quite like realizing you forgot to exclude the .bzr directory in your click, while beuno is asleep.  Surely he's not the only reviewer?
[08:55] <smartboyhw> wellsb, heh
[09:02]  * popey notes people should just type "date -u" to find out the UTC time ☻
[09:03] <smartboyhw> popey, you never go on holidays, do you?
[09:04] <wellsb> popey: Fortunately Senegal is in UTC, so I can just look at my watch ;)
[09:05] <popey> wow, you're in Senegal?
[09:05] <wellsb> Indeed
[09:06] <wellsb> Beautiful Ziguinchor
[09:49] <clepto> morning people!
[09:51] <clepto> popey, ping
[09:59] <clepto> mefrio, hi
[09:59] <mefrio> clepto, hey
[10:00] <clepto> mefrio, it seems that your fix for camera doesn't work
[10:00] <mefrio> clepto, have you tested it?
[10:00] <clepto> mefrio, yes, popey test it yesterday
[10:01] <mefrio> clepto, ok thanks...you are using the picture_files policy, right?
[10:02] <clepto> mefrio, no, I ditched it... I use context_exchange... do you create any folders or just pictures?
[10:02] <clepto> I'm having problem creating a folder
[10:02] <mefrio> clepto, just pictures but I also need to read photos from other apps
[10:04] <clepto> mefrio, then you should use pictures_file
[10:04] <mefrio> clepto, I don't understand why but it seems to not be secure to let a 3rd party app to have this policy
[10:04] <mefrio> clepto, they should just check the code and see that it is ok instead of refusing me to use that
[10:05] <clepto> mefrio, I agree with you but in a larger scale they can't just check the coe
[10:05] <clepto> code*
[10:05] <mefrio> clepto, yes but it's only my app in this case and it's only for the contest. I will implement the content hub APIs when they will be available
[10:06] <clepto> mefrio, you should comment in the feedback page and tell them
[10:07] <mefrio> I did
[10:07] <mefrio> I also wrote a mail to the mailing lists
[10:07] <clepto> and?
[10:08] <mefrio> I am still waiting a response
[10:11] <clepto> :/
[10:15] <mitya57> Hi, myapps.developer.u.c rejects my uploads with 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR, https://ubuntuone.com/6dJ0IrWOAcyA3yp8QBaxdn — is that a known issue?
[10:19] <clepto> mitya57, it is from yesterday
[10:21] <mitya57> After 6th try I was able to upload it (but without the source code)
[10:21] <clepto> source code is optional (i think)
[10:23] <randomcpp> I need someone to test a click pkg
[10:23] <randomcpp> :D
[10:24] <randomcpp> here's the pkg http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr
[10:26] <mitya57> hm, on the app details page I have "Hardware requirements: PC Only" with no way to change that
[10:26] <mitya57> which is weird
[10:28] <clepto> wellsb, ping
[10:33] <randomcpp> nik90_, ping
[10:34]  * mitya57 should have read G+ before asking questions
[10:34] <randomcpp> hey clepto, how you doing? :)
[10:34] <clepto> randomcpp, good, you?
[10:35] <randomcpp> good :) I'm a bit late on schedule, but I think I'll be able to submit a working app anyway
[10:35] <clepto> randomcpp, I have a problem with creating folders
[10:35] <clepto> it doesn't seem to work
[10:35] <clepto> so I can't store images
[10:36] <randomcpp> clepto, with the c++ plugin?
[10:36] <clepto> randomcpp, yes, in the pc works fine, but in the phone I don't think it does
[10:37] <randomcpp> clepto, I don't know, never tried on phone
[10:37] <randomcpp> clepto, do you have a phone running saucy?
[10:37] <clepto> randomcpp, no
[10:38] <randomcpp> :(
[10:38] <clepto> I'm waiting for someone with a phone to appear
[10:38] <randomcpp> me too
[10:38] <clepto> we all do :P
[10:39] <clepto> randomcpp, are you using u1db
[10:39] <clepto> ?
[10:39] <randomcpp> yep
[10:40] <randomcpp> unfortunately yes..
[10:40] <clepto> for the u1db to work on phone it needs to add in the path ".db"
[10:40] <clepto> do you have it?
[10:41] <randomcpp> nope
[10:41] <randomcpp> but thanks for the tip :)
[10:42] <wellsb> randomcpp, clepto:  You have clicks you need tested?
[10:42] <clepto> wellsb, yes!
[10:42] <randomcpp> WebbyIT, yes!
[10:42] <randomcpp> wellsb, yes
[10:42] <randomcpp> oops
[10:42] <randomcpp> wellsb, here's the pkg http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr
[10:43] <randomcpp> clepto, I already had the extension :)
[10:43] <clepto> wellsb, you can find mine in the app lens (CNotes), test randomcpp's first :)
[10:43] <clepto> randomcpp, good
[10:44] <wellsb> Anything in particular I should be testing?  Or do you need just a basic functional test?
[10:45] <randomcpp> wellsb, that's the first click pkg I made
[10:45] <randomcpp> try everything
[10:46] <wellsb> Will do
[10:47] <randomcpp> wellsb, note: category filtering doesn't work :(
[10:49] <wellsb> randomcpp: it opens :)  That's a good sign
[10:49] <randomcpp> wellsb, :D
[10:49] <randomcpp> wellsb, go directly to online search
[10:49] <randomcpp> there's a tab on top
[10:50] <wellsb> If i search for and select a recipe, the loading message does not wrap to fit the screen
[10:50] <randomcpp> wellsb, I need to change it anyway
[10:50] <randomcpp> I need a better message
[10:50] <randomcpp> suggestions are welcome
[10:51] <wellsb> Pictures load in search results, but not on the recipe page
[10:52] <randomcpp> wellsb, I'm screwed, there's an error when the recipe is downloaded
[10:52] <randomcpp> wellsb, is there a special policy to create folders and file?
[10:53] <clepto> i need to know that too
[10:53] <clepto> I think not
[10:53] <wellsb> I don't think so, either
[10:53] <clepto> wellsb, if you run my app we'll see if we can create folders or not
[10:54] <clepto> wellsb, just open it and then see if the folder ~/Pictures/cnotes exists
[10:54] <clepto> wellsb, replace ~/
[10:55] <randomcpp> wellsb, try create a category, then quit the app then load it again
[10:55] <randomcpp> is the category still there?
[10:57] <wellsb> randomcpp: I have to restart my device.  unity8 messed up, and now I can't open toolbars.  Hopefully a reboot fixes it
[10:57] <wellsb> I did notice the source button doesn't seem to do anything
[10:57] <wellsb> clepto: I'll check that momentarily
[10:57] <clepto> wellsb, ok
[10:58] <randomcpp> wellsb, because anyone can't open links from within the app
[10:58] <wellsb> clepto: I did notice your icon doesn't show up properly.  Haven't looked at your .desktop file, but it should have a relative path to the icon
[10:58] <clepto> wellsb, dpm had told me to just leave it CNotes.png
[10:58] <wellsb> ahh, that makes sense.  So on the desktop, that would open the link in the browser
[10:58] <randomcpp> yep
[10:59] <wellsb> That's what it should be.  I'll check the source tree momentarily
[11:01] <wellsb> randomcpp: Saved recipes are not persisting
[11:02] <wellsb> I think clepto's tip about appending .db to the u1db path may resolve that issue
[11:02] <randomcpp> wellsb, I already have that
[11:02] <clepto> randomcpp, are you using OnDestruction maybe?
[11:02] <wellsb> ahh.  uh-oh
[11:02] <randomcpp> clepto, u1db are automatically saved when modified
[11:03] <clepto> randomcpp, yes but do you modify u1db onDesctruction?
[11:03] <wellsb> clepto: Your notes aren't persisting either
[11:03] <clepto> wellsb, popey said yesterday that they are
[11:04] <clepto> wellsb, is the folder ~/Pictures/cnotes created?
[11:04] <wellsb> Let me do a dist-upgrade and see if that helps
[11:04] <randomcpp> clepto, no
[11:04] <wellsb> Should it have been created on first launch?  If so, it wasn't
[11:04] <randomcpp> wellsb, the db should be saved in a ~/.config/SaucyBacon directory
[11:05] <randomcpp> as well as settings.json and recipe photos
[11:05] <wellsb> No such directory in .config
[11:05] <randomcpp> wellsb, that's because we can write directory apparently
[11:06] <clepto> can't*
[11:06] <randomcpp> can't*
[11:06] <randomcpp> thanks clepto
[11:06] <randomcpp> ;)
[11:07] <clepto> sooo... images are not supported on phone!
[11:07] <clepto> whatever..
[11:08] <clepto> but notes should be persistent...
[11:09] <wellsb> I do see a db for cnotes in .local/share/Qt Project/QtQmlViewer
[11:10] <randomcpp> wellsb, what can I do know? I need to create folders :/
[11:10] <clepto> me too
[11:11] <wellsb> clepto: I stand corrected.  Notes are persisting, they're just not loading when the app loads
[11:11] <wellsb> If I go to add another note, and save it, then I see my previous notes
[11:11] <clepto> wellsb, oh
[11:11] <clepto> I think I know
[11:11] <wellsb> That's a much easier bug to fix :)
[11:11] <clepto> wait a sec :)
[11:14] <clepto> wellsb, can you accept? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/61/
[11:14] <wellsb> clepto: Your .desktop points to CNotes.png, but there's no CNotes.png in the root of your project
[11:14] <clepto> wellsb,
[11:14] <clepto> ok
[11:14] <clepto> wait to fix that too
[11:15] <wellsb> clepto: Nope, I cannot
[11:17] <clepto> wellsb, then here http://ubuntuone.com/1qY7urOx3Uz23DH7XSevoM
[11:17] <clepto> beuno, ping
[11:20] <wellsb> clepto: I see your icon now
[11:20] <wellsb> and notes persist.  Good job
[11:21] <clepto> wellsb, thanks!
[11:22] <clepto> pictures are not supported on photo, sadly
[11:23] <clepto> πηονε*
[11:23] <clepto> phone*
[11:23] <wellsb> I'm kinda partial to the greek ;)
[11:24] <randomcpp> wellsb, is there anyone I can ask for help? :/
[11:24] <clepto> wellsb, really? :D
[11:26] <wellsb> randomcpp: Your database should work without having to write files
[11:27] <clepto> randomcpp, maybe you write files before the database is modified
[11:27] <randomcpp> wellsb, yeah but I'm trying to save the db in a .config subdir, where other files are saved
[11:27] <clepto> randomcpp, don't change the db path
[11:27] <clepto> randomcpp, it will change later
[11:28] <randomcpp> clepto, yeah but there are other files anyway
[11:28] <randomcpp> I only use the db to save recipes
[11:28] <randomcpp> settings, etc are in a json file
[11:28] <clepto> randomcpp, I know man, I using folder to store pictures
[11:28] <wellsb> Use a db for settings, too?
[11:29] <clepto> beuno, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/61/ accept please :)
[11:29] <randomcpp> wellsb, it's already slow with one db, with two it takes ages
[11:29] <wellsb> Saving recipes is a pretty critical component of your app, so I'd try to get that working today.  Saving pictures, etc, isn't quite as high a priority
[11:33] <randomcpp> wellsb, yeah but that's quite ridiculous..
[11:33] <randomcpp> other noticeable bugs?
[11:34] <wellsb> Not that I noticed right away
[11:46] <randomcpp> wellsb, http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr try this one
[11:46] <randomcpp> thaks
[11:48] <mefrio> beuno, ping
[11:54] <wellsb> randomcpp: Works like a charm, now
[11:55] <randomcpp> clepto, try add content_exchange for the directory thing
[11:55] <clepto> randomcpp, i have
[11:55] <clepto> randomcpp, does it work you with?
[11:55] <randomcpp> wellsb, categories are saved?
[11:56] <randomcpp> clepto, I haven't tried yet
[11:56] <clepto> ok
[11:58] <wellsb> randomcpp: Categories are not saved
[11:59] <randomcpp> wellsb, thanks
[11:59] <clepto> randomcpp, so it doesn't work to you either?
[12:00] <randomcpp> clepto, a sec, I build a new click pkg
[12:00] <clepto> k
[12:23] <mefrio> is there any member of the ubuntu security team?
[12:26] <tsimpson> mefrio: you can try #ubuntu-hardened but see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam
[12:27] <mefrio> tsimpson, thank you
[12:32] <randomcpp> wellsb, can you try this one please? :) http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr
[12:33] <randomcpp> wellsb, tell me also if you can load photos from the phone
[12:36] <clepto> wellsb, try this http://ubuntuone.com/7LB2Cq7iceuMoG2PcxEqF1 and tell me if you can remove a note (press and hold on a note)
[12:39] <rschroll> beuno or other app store person: I still can't upload my package, as it tells me I already have a click package by that name.  I can't find one to delete or edit.  Little help?
[12:39] <clepto> rschroll, change version on manifest and re-upload
[12:40] <rschroll> This is the very first step, not the upload
[12:40] <clepto> oh
[12:41] <rschroll> I went though the standard (not click) upload process by mistake with the same name.  Perhaps that's causing problems, but I deleted that submission
[12:53] <wellsb> rschroll: You don't see the app listed here: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/
[12:53] <wellsb> ?
[13:18] <randomcpp> wellsb, can you try this one please? :) http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr
[13:54] <rschroll> Any app store admins around?
[14:06] <popey> rschroll: wassup?
[14:08] <rschroll> popey: I've managed wedge my developer account somehow.  The first step of the app submission process, it tells me I already have a click package with the same name
[14:08] <rschroll> I haven't submitted any click packages yet.
[14:09] <rschroll> I did go through the regular submission process by mistake, but I deleted that submission
[14:13] <popey> rschroll: I dont think I can help there, sorry. beuno ?
[14:20] <mitya57> popey: thanks for testing TouchWriter! can you please try to run it from terminal and see if it prints anything when you press Save or Preview?
[14:21]  * mitya57 supposes that QStandardPaths::writableLocation() returns a location that isn't actually writable
[14:23] <rschroll> mitya57: There seem to be issues with apparmor and the application itself disagreeing about which directories should be writable
[14:23] <rschroll> If you're using U1DB, be sure to give it a filename with a .db extension
[14:24] <rschroll> Otherwise, you may have to set QCoreApplication::organizationName and ::applicationName manually
[14:24] <popey> mitya57: in a moment, yes
[14:25] <rschroll> Launchpad bug #1224126 may be relevant
[14:25] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1224126 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu Saucy) "qtdeclarative5-u1db1.0 should not use ~/.local/share/Qt Project for db files" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1224126
[14:28] <mitya57> rschroll: no, I'm not using U1DB (intentionally) for files storing
[14:28] <mitya57> do you know if QFileInfo::isWritable() will return the correct value under apparmor?
[14:29] <rschroll> I don't think it does, but I don't know for sure.
[14:29] <popey> hmm, i can't start it manually, the aa-exec-click line seems screwy
[14:29] <popey> Exec=aa-exec-click -p com.ubuntu.developer.mitya57.touchwriter_touchwriter_0.1 -- ./touchwriter
[14:29] <popey> Can't exec "./touchwriter": No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/aa-exec line 122.
[14:31] <mitya57> OK, I can just hardcode the ~/.local/share/touchwriter/ directory in the code — that should work, shouldn't it?
[14:31] <beuno> rschroll, the old and new app submissions aren't connected, AFAICT
[14:32] <rschroll> beuno: I've managed to screw it up, nonetheless.  (I have this power.)
[14:33] <rschroll> mitya57: To use the default apparmor permissions, you need to write to ~/.local/share/<APP_PKGNAME>, where <APP_PKGNAME> is the full reverse domain name of your package
[14:33] <rschroll> Probably com.ubuntu.developer.mitya57.touchwriter, or similar
[14:34] <rschroll> You can also request additional write privileges in your apparmor profile
[14:34] <beuno> rschroll, ok, give me a little while and I'll try and sort it out. What's the app name?
[14:34] <rschroll> beru
[14:35] <mitya57> rschroll: Ok, thanks! What's the corresponding apparmor permission? Also, am I allowed to read ~/.config/touchwriter.conf?
[14:35] <randomcpp> can anyone test a click pkg?
[14:35] <rschroll> beuno: There's nothing else (or at least there should be nothing else) in my account, so if you want to nuke the whole thing and make me start from scratch, that's fine
[14:36] <rschroll> mitya57: I don't think so.  For the full apparmor rules, check out /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/<APP_PKGNAME>.  Towards the end, it gives a list of places you can read and write
[14:36] <mitya57> popey: It looks like the previews also didn't work — right? any ideas why?
[14:37] <popey> mitya57: correct
[14:37] <mitya57> popey, maybe you can try to run it just by specifying the full path (like /opt/apps.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.mitya57.touchwriter/touchwriter)?
[14:38] <mitya57> ah, no, I think I guess why that is not working...
[14:38] <mitya57> ignore that, I'll fix that nwo
[14:38] <mitya57> *now
[14:40] <randomcpp> any ubuntu phone dev?
[14:40] <rschroll> mitya57: I see you're actually writing a fully compiled app.  I suspect (though I'm not sure) that if you set QCoreApplication::organizationName to "" and QCoreApplication::applicationName to the full package name right at the beginning, writableLocation() will work.
[14:41] <randomcpp> or app policy expert or something like that
[14:43] <mitya57> rschroll: no, I looked at qstandardpaths_unix.cpp and it parses user-dirs.dirs. Using DataLocation instead of DocumentsLocation should work, though
[14:44] <mitya57> rschroll: re /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/<APP_PKGNAME>: I can't read that file as I don't have the device :(
[14:45]  * mitya57 didn't yet manage to run Ubuntu on his Galaxy Note II
[14:46] <rschroll> mitya57: You can install on the desktop, and you seem to get the same configuration as on the device.
[14:46] <rschroll> Although maybe only on 13.10.  I've been testing on a 13.10 desktop VM.
[14:46] <mitya57> rschroll: thanks again, I will try that all
[14:46] <mitya57> my last question is about this:  "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': ",
[14:47] <mitya57> Does that mean that I should rename click package from ..._all.click to ..._armhf.click?
[14:47] <mitya57> or do something else?
[14:48] <beuno> rschroll, I see you created Beru as a click app, then deleted
[14:49] <beuno> rschroll, I've set it back to draft, you should see it in: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/
[14:52] <rschroll> beuno: Thanks a million.  (I went part way through the creation process when the click app store was first announced.  I thought when I abandoned it, it would just vanish.  Then I must have deleted it when I though I was deleting the std app.)
[14:53] <rschroll> beuno: Wait a sec.  This one is "beruu", which I created when I was trying to troubleshoot.  (And also subsequently deleted.)
[14:53] <rschroll> (Same name, different package name.  Just to confuse things further.)
[14:56] <rschroll> beuno: And when I try to change the package name back to "beru", I get the same error as before.
[14:57] <beuno> rschroll, ok, I'll check again, one min
[14:58] <rschroll> Thanks.  Sorry for being your Fielding Melish.
[14:59] <beuno> rschroll, it's ok, we need to iron out all these glitches, so it's good to know about them
[15:00] <beuno> rschroll, ok!  I foun the real Beru now, see now
[15:00] <rschroll> beuno: One suggestion -- the error message about already having an app by that name should have a link to that app.  This would have helped me avoid all these issues!
[15:01] <beuno> rschroll, noted, thanks
[15:01] <rschroll> beuno: That's the one.  Thanks.
[15:02] <rschroll> ha!  I forgot about the icon that I scribbled in gimp.
[15:06] <mefrio> wellsb, ping
[15:07] <beuno> mefrio, did you see my comment on your app?
[15:08] <mefrio> beuno, just now. How will you do that?
[15:08] <mefrio> I mean, aren't judges going to download apps from the store?
[15:09] <beuno> mefrio, I can sort that out for them, explain that the store is still in beta and we're working out kinks
[15:10] <mefrio> beuno, ok thank you very much :)
[15:10] <swordfish> Hello eveyone!... I'm still trying to package my application (C++ & QML) into a click package...  I've followed this guide http://notyetthere.org/?p=316 and I'm able to execute the application on the phone... the problem is with the package, I can't execute the installed version...
[15:12] <swordfish> I got two icons of the game in the dash but none of them is working... How can I remove the installed app and retry?
[15:12] <wellsb> mefrio: pong
[15:12] <mefrio> wellsb, could you test a click package?
[15:12] <wellsb> Certainly
[15:12] <mefrio> wellsb, ok let me put it on u1 :)
[15:15] <mefrio> wellsb, here it is: http://ubuntuone.com/4V8Xz9YWRHuBWvQKdQ7gtU I need to know if you can access the photos in your pictures folder
[15:16] <randomcpp> beuno, ping
[15:16] <wellsb> okay.  Let me put some photos in my pictures folder
[15:17] <randomcpp> wellsb, if you have time do the same with my app http://ubuntuone.com/6zF8D1uf562qYYdrDWLxVr also check if categories are now saved or not
[15:17] <randomcpp> thank you
[15:18] <wellsb> randomcpp: Will do
[15:18] <beuno> randomcpp, pong
[15:18] <randomcpp> beuno, could you please review my app? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/82/ :)
[15:19] <beuno> randomcpp, yummy!
[15:19] <beuno> sure thing
[15:19] <randomcpp> :D
[15:19] <wellsb> 82 already?  Wow.  Successful showdown :)
[15:21] <wellsb> mefrio: I can not read the files in my Pictures folder
[15:21] <mefrio> wellsb, ok thank you :)
[15:21] <beuno>     "security_policy_groups_safe (picture_files)": "(MANUAL REVIEW) reserved policy group 'picture_files': Can read and write to picture files. This policy group is reserved for certain applications, such as gallery applications. Developers should typically use the content_exchange policy group and API to access picture files instead."
[15:21] <randomcpp> wellsb, so if mefrio can't, my app can't too
[15:21] <beuno> randomcpp, ^
[15:22] <beuno>     "desktop_Exec (saucybacon)": "absolute path '/usr/bin/qmlscene -I ./modules/ ./app/saucybacon.qml' for Exec given in .desktop file.",
[15:22] <beuno>     "desktop_Version (saucybacon)": "'0.1' does not match freedesktop.org version '1.0'",
[15:22] <mefrio> randomcpp, nope man, I can xD
[15:22] <beuno>     "desktop_validates (saucybacon)": "did not validate: (ValidationError in file '/tmp/clickreview-nywga5/saucybacon.desktop': \n- Key 'Encoding' is deprecated )"
[15:22] <beuno> randomcpp, ^
[15:22] <beuno> and finally
[15:22] <wellsb> randomcpp: Correct, I can't access them in yours either
[15:22] <beuno>     "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': ",
[15:22] <beuno>     "lint_maintainer_format": "invalid format for maintainer: Giulio Collura",
[15:22] <beuno>     "lint_package_filename_pkgname_match": "'com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon.saucybacon' != 'com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon' from DEBIAN/control",
[15:22] <beuno>     "lint_package_filename_version_match": "'0.1.0' != '0.1' from DEBIAN/control"
[15:22] <beuno> randomcpp, the maintainer needs to be "Your Name <your@email>"
[15:22] <beuno> randomcpp, I see what happened with the namespace
[15:23] <beuno> randomcpp, I'll fix that for you
[15:23] <mefrio> wellsb, can you try now? http://ubuntuone.com/4V8Xz9YWRHuBWvQKdQ7gtU
[15:23] <randomcpp> ok thanks
[15:23] <mitya57> beuno: hi, what does "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': " mean?
[15:23] <randomcpp> beuno, I remove pictures_fles
[15:24] <randomcpp> beuno, should I upload a new pkg?
[15:24] <wellsb> randomcpp: Recipes aren't saving at all anymore
[15:24] <randomcpp> wellsb, are categories saved?
[15:25] <beuno> randomcpp, yes please
[15:25] <beuno> randomcpp, the binary, is it arhmhf?
[15:25] <wellsb> mefrio: u1 is giving me server errors, so i can't get that file right now
[15:25] <beuno> mitya57, it means the binary doesn't specify what architecture it is
[15:25] <randomcpp> beuno, yes it is
[15:25] <mefrio> wellsb, ok no problems
[15:26] <beuno> randomcpp, k, than you can ignore the architecture one, I've got the namespace one, the rest are all yours. Be sure to bump the version when you upload
[15:27] <randomcpp>   "desktop_Version (saucybacon)": "'0.1' does not match freedesktop.org version '1.0'", ?
[15:27] <randomcpp> beuno, ^
[15:27] <swordfish> beuno, please would you test this package? For some reason it is not working on my phone...  http://ubuntuone.com/38LgWAtEdaLFMeTKElkuQH
[15:27] <wellsb> mefrio: Try to re-upload your click.  Other u1 links are working for me
[15:27] <randomcpp> wellsb, I haven't changed anything
[15:27] <beuno> swordfish, sure
[15:27] <randomcpp> it should read and save recipes as it did before
[15:28] <mitya57> beuno: will adding "architecture": "armhf", to manifest.json help?
[15:29] <rschroll> beuno: Submitted!  Thanks for the help
[15:29] <beuno> mitya57, it would probably make the error go away, yes
[15:29] <beuno> rschroll, \o/
[15:29] <mefrio> wellsb, http://ubuntuone.com/31VMVqde1VdOA3tW8JbFXB
[15:29] <mitya57> beuno: thank you! will reupload when the build finishes
[15:30] <beuno>     "desktop_Exec (ubuntu-netwalk)": "found unexpected Exec with architecture 'all': ubuntu-netwalk"
[15:30] <beuno> swordfish, ^
[15:30] <beuno> shell scripts don't run confined
[15:30] <beuno> not sure if that's a shell script or the binary
[15:30] <beuno> the support for compiled apps isn't quite there yet, a lot of rough edges
[15:31] <swordfish> beuno, it's the binary... In the desktop i simply wrote the name of the executable...
[15:31] <randomcpp> beuno, uploaded 0.1.1
[15:31] <wellsb> mefrio: that link works, but I still can't read pictures folder
[15:31] <beuno> swordfish, and the app just doesn't run?
[15:31] <beuno> randomcpp, ack
[15:31]  * beuno needs to step out for 20
[15:32] <wellsb> mefrio: The picture is a .png.  Should I try a different one?
[15:32] <swordfish> beuno... the compiled application worked in its folder (after the compilation)... Then when it is installed it wont...
[15:32] <mefrio> wellsb, no, .png should work :(
[15:32] <swordfish> beuno, i tested manually launching the binary from the terminal...
[15:35] <mefrio> popey, ping
[15:36] <popey> mefrio: pong
[15:37] <mefrio> popey, I am still having some problems with reading photos from the pictures folder...could you try this? http://ubuntuone.com/31VMVqde1VdOA3tW8JbFXB
[15:37] <mefrio> popey, I only need to know if it can read photos from the pictures folder
[15:37] <popey> ya
[15:40] <swordfish> beuno, now I'm trying changes in the desktop file... How can I remove the click package from the phone?
[15:44] <beuno> swordfish, I don't really know, and I don't have a test device handy today
[15:44] <popey> that's a cjwatson style question
[15:45] <randomcpp> beuno, what does this mean?  "desktop_Version (saucybacon)": "'0.1.1' does not match freedesktop.org version '1.0'"
[15:45] <popey> mefrio: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-164523.png
[15:45] <popey> mefrio: it got a picture from my Pictures folder
[15:45] <mefrio> popey, ok thank you :) is camera still rotated?
[15:45] <beuno> randomcpp, that in the .desktop file, it should be 1.0, not your app's version
[15:46] <popey> mefrio: no
[15:46] <randomcpp> beuno, ahhhhhhh
[15:46] <mefrio> popey, ok thank you again :)
[15:46] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-164613.png
[15:46] <randomcpp> thank you :)
[15:46] <wellsb> mefrio: Is he testing the same version I was testing?
[15:46] <mefrio> wellsb, yes
[15:46] <popey> http://ubuntuone.com/31VMVqde1VdOA3tW8JbFXB is what I tested
[15:46] <wellsb> hmm
[15:47] <mitya57> popey, beuno: uploaded TouchWriter 1.1, review/testing welcome!
[15:47] <randomcpp> popey, can you try this please? http://ubuntuone.com/1erx42VGZfdf1jDar0IzCq
[15:47] <mefrio> clepto, as popey stated the fix I posted for the camera works :)
[15:47] <popey> heh, one at a time ☻
[15:47] <popey> mitya57: ok
[15:47] <popey> mitya57: uploaded where? I don't see it under review
[15:48] <randomcpp> beuno, how should it be? "desktop_Exec (saucybacon)": "absolute path '/usr/bin/qmlscene -I ./modules/ ./app/saucybacon.qml' for Exec given in .desktop file.",
[15:48] <beuno> rschroll, reviewed. Unfortunately, I can't approve with the special permission request
[15:48] <beuno> rschroll, it should be a relative path instead
[15:49] <mefrio> randomcpp, "qmlscene -I .modules/ app/saucybacon.qml"
[15:49] <mefrio> *"qmlscene -I modules/ app/saucybacon.qml"
[15:49] <randomcpp> ok thz
[15:49] <randomcpp> thx
[15:49] <mitya57> popey: how can I change the state from Needs information to Pending review?
[15:50] <popey> mitya57: thats one for beuno
[15:50] <wellsb> beuno: Any idea when Bug 1215399 will become fix-released, so folk can change the icons shown in the store
[15:50] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215399 in Software Center Agent "Developer added video url but it didn't appear in USC or apps.ubuntu.com" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215399
[15:50] <beuno> mitya57, submit a new vrersion?
[15:50] <beuno> wellsb, well, we don't expose click apps in apps.ubuntu.com
[15:50] <beuno> so, I can figure it out, but probably not relevant to your interest?  :)
[15:50] <mitya57> popey: anyway, here's updating click: http://ubuntuone.com/3KLhlqLpmCTkJWRRx8phys
[15:50] <rschroll> beuno: So I have to tell users to save their epubs to ~/.local/share/com.ubuntu.developer.rschroll/beru/Books?
[15:51] <rschroll> Because that's insane
[15:51] <mitya57> beuno: I have submitted a new version, but it's still Needs information and popey didn't see it
[15:51] <wellsb> beuno: Right, but michael.nelson reported Bug 1223513 as a duplicate of that one
[15:51] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215399 in Software Center Agent "duplicate for #1223513 Developer added video url but it didn't appear in USC or apps.ubuntu.com" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215399
[15:51] <beuno> rschroll, I think that's what the content hub is for, no?
[15:51] <rschroll> beuno: Is it just the write access that's the problem
[15:51] <beuno> mitya57, what's the URL to your app?
[15:52] <wellsb> ahh, I see.  scratch that previous comment
[15:52] <randomcpp> beuno, bumped to 0.1.2
[15:52] <rschroll> bueno: Don't know about the content hub.  I asked on the security list and got pointed to a youtube video
[15:52] <mitya57> beuno: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/81/
[15:54] <beuno> rschroll, we're still ironing out the app development process, so don't panic if your usecase isn't addressed, we'll make sure it's addressed
[15:54] <mitya57> note that the version in click mismatches the version on myapps because otherwise I was getting 500 error while uploading
[15:55] <mitya57> i.e. https://plus.google.com/u/0/112114577111064174226/posts/ijRukyX7wpB
[15:55] <beuno> mitya57, reviewed, one small detail pending
[15:55] <beuno> mitya57, ah  :)  we need that fixed
[15:55] <beuno> mitya57, bump the version, that's probably why you're getting the 500
[15:56] <beuno> I need to leave for a few hours in 10
[15:56] <mitya57> I'll try to bump and reupload now
[15:56] <beuno> nobody panic if their app is stuck in the queue, all you need is for to be submitted, not approved
[15:57] <rschroll> beuno: Would read access to ~/Books be okay, with beru saving files to some private location?
[15:57] <beuno> randomcpp, still see the absolute path in 0.1.2
[15:57] <rschroll> Or is all access to the home directory verboten
[15:57] <beuno> rschroll, yeah, I think apps shouldn't be reading directly outside of their folder, but rather using APIs
[15:58] <rschroll> beuno: Do these API exist?
[15:59] <mitya57> beuno: uploaded a new version with fixed number
[16:00] <randomcpp> beuno, in the Icon field no the Exec
[16:00] <randomcpp> right?
[16:04] <wellsb> It doesn't look like Bug 1220552 will be fixed in libaccounts-glib in time for the showdown.  mardy, is the team still having issues with jenkins?
[16:04] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1220552 in libaccounts-glib (Ubuntu Saucy) "App Armor denies access, despite appropriate security policy groups in manifest" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220552
[16:11] <randomcpp> testers -> http://ubuntuone.com/6qiY4K1GZIcughhMiBupM8
[16:14] <beuno> randomcpp, still, same absolute path in the Exec of the .desktop file
[16:14] <beuno> mitya57, looking
[16:14] <beuno> rschroll, I don't know, they either already do or are in progress
[16:15] <randomcpp> beuno, how should it look like?
[16:15] <beuno> mitya57, I still see 1.1?
[16:15] <randomcpp> just qmlscene?
[16:15] <beuno> randomcpp, as I said, it needs to be a relative path
[16:15] <beuno> yes, all relative paths
[16:16] <randomcpp> beuno like this -> Exec=qmlscene -I modules/ app/saucybacon.qml
[16:16] <beuno> randomcpp, I think so, yes
[16:17] <beuno> now, I need to go for a few hours
[16:17] <beuno> will check back later!
[16:18] <mitya57> beuno: now it's 1.1 everywhere (in app, in manifest and on website), what's wrong?
[16:24] <mitya57> no more beuno? popey ^
[16:26] <swordfish> popey, please you are my last resource... I've tried really everything... Can you tell me what's wrong with this package? http://ubuntuone.com/2l7VDUZKr1mGNaJK3LzIkw
[16:34] <wellsb> I think I read somewhere about how app updates work for now, but I'm not sure where I saw that.  Does anybody have more info?  Will apps show up in the store again if an update is available, or what?
[16:46] <Zuardi> popey: thanks for reviewing, I don't know how to reproduce your bug on my development environments, the app shouldn't be confined, like it isn't if you open the same html on a web browser http://counter.fabricio.pagekite.me/app.html
[16:47] <Zuardi> poopey in both qmlscene and cordova-ubuntu it opens fullscreen, do you have any tips?
[16:49] <Zuardi> also, long-touch *should* open a context menu, it work on all my desktop browsers, all my android mobile browsers both webkit and gecko (browser, chrome, chrome beta and firefox mobile nightly)
[16:50] <Zuardi> but long touch doesnt look like working on qmlscene and cordova-ubuntu… should I worry that this won't work on a device as well?
[16:50] <Zuardi> as for tap performance, it should be better on 0.4.0
[16:52] <popey> Zuardi: the developer of Beru (rschroll) had a similar issue with html rendering in a small window. He may be able to help as he fixed his app
[16:53] <Zuardi> if anyone could test if long-touch is working or not for me, I would really apreciate, here is a recent click package: http://ubuntuone.com/487DLNZKlhltumqcuM2tcb
[16:53] <popey> Zuardi: https://github.com/rschroll/beru/commit/edbed27485fb8175465f195c139e961a4b96a13d <- that commit may help you
[16:53] <popey> Zuardi: I'll test now
[16:53] <Zuardi> rschroll ping
[16:53] <Zuardi> popey: thanks!
[16:53] <popey> np
[16:53] <popey> (I am not a developer so forgive me if it's not much use)
[16:54] <swordfish> popey, please when you have time... Can you take a look to this http://ubuntuone.com/2l7VDUZKr1mGNaJK3LzIkw
[16:55] <popey> swordfish: sure, after I check out Zuardi's app
[16:55] <swordfish> popey, thx...
[16:56] <Zuardi> popey: from that commit it looks like a simple fix \o/ (I am indeed using initial-scale=1 ) that's something from iOS previous works i guess…
[16:57] <popey> oh great!
[16:58] <popey> Zuardi: single tapping still seems very hit-and-miss
[16:59] <Zuardi> popey: bummer :(
[16:59] <popey> oh, my bad
[16:59] <Zuardi> it is so smooth on my devices (without the cordova wrapping…) you have no idea :)
[16:59] <popey> you have to tap on the left or right side of the counter?
[16:59] <popey> I was tapping the middle
[17:00] <Zuardi> popey: yes, I made the hit area smaller (25% on each corner)
[17:00] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-180025.png
[17:00] <popey> double tapping made it zoom in ☻
[17:00] <Zuardi> I did this because 50% was getting in the way of scrolling sometimes on android
[17:01] <Zuardi> popey: nice feedback! I'll see if I can trap those touch events with a preventDefault
[17:02] <randomcpp> popey, can you test this http://ubuntuone.com/5uGrap3Jg0tS2WKCAlFAEI
[17:02] <Zuardi> popey: hmm, that (i) button shouldnt be appearing on latest versions…
[17:03] <popey> randomcpp: sure, after swordfish
[17:03] <popey> Zuardi: i appear to have two versions installed
[17:03] <popey> will clear out and try again in a bit
[17:03] <randomcpp> I need you to check if recipes are persistent, categories are persistent, search downloads images and if it's possible to include local images in a recipe. Also export as pdf should be checked. Thanks a lot :D
[17:03] <popey> np
[17:04] <popey> I have to say it's jolly good fun trying out all these apps ☻
[17:04] <Zuardi> popey: ok, thanks, don't worry too much tough, please review the others, I still have lots to do before the next updates :)
[17:05] <popey> swordfish: netwalk is yours?
[17:05] <swordfish> popey, yep...
[17:05] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-180544.png
[17:05] <popey> what do I do? ☻
[17:06] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-180556.png  oops
[17:06] <popey> didn't notice it had rotated, but the fact that it did fine is good ☻
[17:07] <swordfish> That's the same problem I had... Debugging it it tells that there is a conflict with local storage versions...
[17:07] <popey> swordfish: i don't actually know what the app is supposed to do, sorry.
[17:07] <swordfish> On the pc everything works fine, and the same launching directly the binaries on the phone...
[17:08] <swordfish> You should see a grid of cells that you can rotate and a sort of energy flowing! .. In theory :) ...
[17:08] <popey> Oh, I know the kind of game
[17:08] <popey> I love those!
[17:08] <popey> like "net" from Simon Tathams games?
[17:09] <popey> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/java/net.html
[17:09] <popey> ?
[17:09] <swordfish> yeah that it... :D
[17:09] <popey> I used to play that on my Palm Pilot!
[17:10] <popey> randomcpp: yours is saucy bacon right? I am just getting a white screen when I start it at the moment
[17:10] <swordfish> the idea I had was to make remakes of popular games!... We always need them... :D
[17:10] <popey> Oh I completely agree!
[17:10] <randomcpp> popey, what?
[17:10] <nik90_> randomcpp: me too ^^ (white screen)
[17:11] <swordfish> So what do you think I can do to overcome those issue?
[17:11] <clepto> mefrio, ok, I'll check the code agaian
[17:11] <clepto> rschroll, ping
[17:11] <randomcpp> it used to work popey nik90_
[17:11] <swordfish> Other than using a deb package? (Which of course would solve everything)
[17:12] <popey> swordfish: tricky, I'm not a developer so not sure
[17:12] <randomcpp> nik90_, try this one http://ubuntuone.com/6qiY4K1GZIcughhMiBupM8
[17:12] <popey> randomcpp: is that the one I just tested?
[17:12] <randomcpp> an older one
[17:12] <popey> ah
[17:12] <popey> hi nik90_
[17:12] <clepto> mefrio, ping
[17:13] <nik90_> popey: hi :)
[17:13] <nik90_> randomcpp: testing now
[17:14] <mefrio> clepto, pong
[17:14]  * popey flashes his phone clean again
[17:14]  * mefrio thinks that popey has flashed it's phone a hundred of times in this weekend
[17:15] <nik90_> popey: if I use click_n_run on a older click package, will it overwrite the existing install?
[17:15] <clepto> mefrio, nevermind, I put the fix in the wrong place last time! thanks for the fix
[17:15] <popey> nik90_: an excellent question! (no idea)
[17:16] <mefrio> clepto, ok :)
[17:16] <popey> i suspect you'll end up with two installs
[17:16] <popey> in /opt/click....  with current pointing to the older one?
[17:16] <clepto> I was out for the last 4 hours, did you had a breathrough regarding write to files and create dirs??
[17:16] <clepto> breakthrough*
[17:16] <mitya57> popey: any update on reviewing touchwriter? now the version 1.1 everywhere (in app, in manifest and on website)
[17:17] <popey> mitya57: yeah, lemme try again now I have re-flashed my phone
[17:17] <popey> it was getting a bit messy!
[17:17] <clepto> randomcpp, ping
[17:18] <mitya57> thanks popey!
[17:18] <popey> np
[17:18] <randomcpp> clepto, png
[17:18] <clepto> randomcpp, did you find how to create dirs?
[17:19] <nik90_> randomcpp: which was the newest's version? 1.0.3?
[17:20] <randomcpp> 1.0.4
[17:20] <randomcpp> clepto, nope
[17:20] <randomcpp> no progress on that side
[17:20] <randomcpp> now I'm writing a database on mu own
[17:20] <randomcpp> to get rid of u1db
[17:20] <nik90_> randomcpp: the 2nd file u asked me to test was 1.0.3?
[17:20] <mrqtros> Hi folks!
[17:20] <randomcpp> yep nik90_
[17:21] <mrqtros> I have problem while trying to put my app in software center.
[17:21] <mrqtros> Only one issue left.
[17:21] <mrqtros>     "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': "
[17:22] <mrqtros> How can I specify arch of my binary? :)
[17:22] <mrqtros> popey ping
[17:22] <clepto> nik90_, because we cannot create dirs in phone, adding pictures to notes will note work, what do you suggest to? Add a label to inform the judges if the clicked images or you can tell me them?
[17:22] <mitya57> mrqtros: "architecture": "armhf", in manifest
[17:23] <clepto> not work*
[17:23] <mrqtros> mitya57 in root section?
[17:23] <mitya57> mrqtros: yes
[17:24] <nik90_> clepto: wait so you cannot create images due to permission issues is it? But don't you get one directory with write permissions? Can't you save images into that folder?
[17:25] <clepto> nik90_, which is that directory?
[17:25] <clepto> nik90_, I could try, just tell me the dir
[17:26] <nik90_> clepto: I am not sure which dir it is..but I thought beuno or someone else was talking about it
[17:26] <clepto> beuno, do you know? ^
[17:26] <nik90_> clepto: surely all your databases are being saved by your app into a directory where you have write access
[17:26] <mrqtros> mitya57 big thanks! :)
[17:26] <nik90_> otherwise your notes would not be permanent
[17:26] <clepto> nik90_, that location is /home/chris/.local/share/Qt Project/QtQmlViewer
[17:27] <clepto> nik90_, I don't find it good idea to store them there
[17:27] <mrqtros> popey, if you are here - can you review my app again? :) I've fixed last issue :)
[17:27] <mrqtros> popey, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/78/
[17:28] <nik90_> popey: would it be possible to get jdstrand here to provide some info on where data can be stored on the phone?
[17:28] <popey> have pm'ed him, but don't know if he's around
[17:33] <nik90_> mrqtros: what's your app?
[17:33] <popey> mitya57: sorry, got a link to the latest version?
[17:33] <popey> nik90_: YaD
[17:33] <popey> "Unofficial Yandex.Disk client"
[17:33] <nik90_> ah okay
[17:39]  * popey goes to put kids to bed, back soon
[17:40] <mrqtros> popey, yep, YaD :) All is ok now? :)
[17:42] <mitya57> popey: http://ubuntuone.com/24NywvCZXYDwrXhOlDoMAV
[17:42] <mitya57> anyone else who can approve apps: ^
[17:42] <clepto> nik90_, you believe I should store pictures to db paths for now?
[17:45] <wellsb> clepto: That's a common directory that all apps can write to, so I'm not sure that's a good idea.  Other apps could probably overwrite your pictures
[17:46] <clepto> wellsb, do you have something to suggest?
[17:46] <clepto> wellsb, I'll store pictures inside a folder named cnotes, I don't it will be override
[17:47] <wellsb> I guess that's the best you can do for now
[17:47] <clepto> wellsb, can I write to .local/share?
[17:48] <mitya57> clepto: you can write to ~/.local/share/{your_app_reverse_domain_name}
[17:49] <clepto> mitya57, is that verified?
[17:49] <randomcpp> clepto, pm me is it works
[17:49] <mitya57> I think that was documented somewhere
[17:49] <randomcpp> if*
[17:49] <clepto> randomcpp, ok
[17:49] <clepto> mitya57, can you find it?
[17:50] <clepto> wellsb, nik90_ popey ?? ^
[17:51] <mitya57> clepto: I don't think so :(
[17:51] <wellsb> clepto: I'm not sure.  Perhaps jdstrand or mardy can chime in
[17:51] <clepto> you can try
[17:51] <clepto> give a sec to make a package
[17:52] <popey> It's documented on the mailing list. https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg03861.html
[17:52] <popey> that lists the folders you can write to
[17:52] <mrqtros> nik90_ how it is going? :)
[17:53] <clepto> randomcpp, ^
[17:53]  * popey installs YaD
[17:53] <clepto> randomcpp, wait to check for sure
[17:53] <nik90_> mrqtros: good..hectic :)
[17:53] <popey> YaD doesn't launch here
[17:54] <randomcpp> clepto, check check chek
[17:54] <randomcpp> ;)
[17:54] <randomcpp> I'm quite busy atm
[17:55] <nik90_> randomcpp, clepto: check popey's ubuntu-phone mailing list link ^^
[17:55] <nik90_> provides nice overview of where to save data
[17:56] <nik90_> popey: when I tried installing saucybacon, I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/6111366/
[17:56] <nik90_> popey: is that okay. I still see it in the dash. But I get a white screen on load
[17:56] <popey> same here
[17:56] <randomcpp> nik90_, so should I use ~/.config/saucybacon instead of ~/.config/SaucyBacon ?
[17:56] <popey> that last line is a red herring IMO
[17:56] <nik90_> popey: okay
[17:57] <nik90_> randomcpp: to save what? pictures or settings?
[17:57] <randomcpp> atm both
[17:57] <nik90_> randomcpp: also the APP_PKGNAME refers to the name field in your manifest file.
[17:58] <randomcpp> maybe I'll move pics to local/share
[17:58] <nik90_> randomcpp: technically you would go about saving setting in the .config and other data in the .local/share/AppName folder
[17:58] <randomcpp> nik90_, so it's com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon
[17:58] <nik90_> randomcpp: but due to lack of time, just save it to .local/share/App_Pkgname
[17:58] <nik90_> randomcpp: yes then that's what you should use
[17:59] <rschroll> people worried about filesystem access: I think I just worked this out with Beru.  See this commit for details: https://github.com/rschroll/beru/commit/bc2d79accb4b775e1a228a034b87756543de06c2
[17:59] <mrqtros> popey again? :(
[17:59] <randomcpp> nik90_, I don't know why it doesn't install
[17:59] <mrqtros> popey so what is the problem now? :(
[17:59] <popey> mrqtros: lemme try manual start
[18:00] <popey> wish i could make it programmatically manually launch the app each time
[18:00] <nik90_> rschroll: so where do your file save the ebooks?
[18:00] <nik90_> rschroll: also I havent tried your app yet :P. Got links?
[18:00] <rschroll> The key is to set QCoreApplication::setOrganizationName("") and QCoreApplication::setApplicationName("com.whatever.appname").  The  QStandardPaths::writableLocation gives the right place.
[18:00] <popey> not quite got the grep fu to find /home/phablet/.local/share/applications/ blah desktop file
[18:00] <mrqtros> popey all was ok before I've added "architecture" : "armhf"
[18:00] <popey> com.ubuntu.developer.qtros.yad_YaD_0.7.desktop
[18:00] <popey> capital letter in desktop filename not good...
[18:01] <mitya57> popey: please review https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/81/
[18:01] <popey> kk
[18:01] <nik90_> mitya57: what is your app?
[18:01] <mitya57> nik90_: touchwriter
[18:01] <nik90_> mitya57: oh yeah..
[18:01] <rschroll> nik90_: They're hidden in ~/.local/blah/blah/blah, which is terrible for the user.  But I guess we have to protect the poor things from the big bad internet...
[18:01] <rschroll> (I'm not happy with this.  Does it show?)
[18:01] <nik90_> mitya57: I have seen it on g+.
[18:02] <mitya57> :)
[18:02] <clepto> popey, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/61/
[18:02] <popey> rschroll: its not the internet we're protecting people from
[18:02] <popey> rschroll: it's other developer apps.
[18:02] <nik90_> rschroll: From a mobile user perspective, they are not going to go through the filesystem and open a ebook manually. They will most likely open it using your app.
[18:02] <clepto> popey, try to add an image, you know how :P
[18:02] <nik90_> rschroll: so this is okay ;)
[18:02] <popey> we don't want Developer B tramping all over files from App A
[18:03] <popey> clepto: k
[18:03] <mrqtros> popey on last review I received only one problem: "found binaries for architecture 'all':". I've fixed it via "architecture" : "armhf", and now app doesn't launch? :(
[18:03] <clepto> popey, also tell me if camera orientation is correct
[18:03] <rschroll> Which means that I get lock-in, since no one else can write a better epub reader than works with the epubs Beru has.
[18:03] <rschroll> Maybe I should be glad for this, but it makes me feel dirty
[18:03] <popey> AHH!
[18:03] <rschroll> This isn't the UNIX way
[18:03] <popey> Yad now starts
[18:03] <popey> it just takes a long time on my device
[18:04] <nik90_> rschroll: agreed, but come on this is version 1.0 and things are changing constantly. So we try to do what's best atm
[18:04] <popey> mrqtros: anything in particular I should test in YaD?
[18:04] <mrqtros> popey strange, there are now any heavy operations on start ... But I can use "Loader" for version 1.0.
[18:05] <mrqtros> popey no, I want your review at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/78/  :)))
[18:05] <popey> heh
[18:05] <mrqtros> popey I simply want to put my app in store before App Showdown deadline
[18:06] <popey> ok
[18:06] <mrqtros> popey it is port, so all C++ code is fully tested :) On MeeGo it was v2.0
[18:07] <popey> Bounced it back.
[18:08] <mrqtros> popey I really don't know how to fix it :(
[18:08] <popey> mrqtros: damnit, mistake
[18:08] <popey> mrqtros: re-submit
[18:08] <rschroll> nik90_, popey, and anyone else who wants to test: version 0.9.1 with filesystem restrictions:http://rschroll.github.io/beru/assets/com.ubuntu.developer.rschroll.beru_0.9.1_arm.click
[18:08] <mrqtros> popey do you mean that I should resubmit it? :)
[18:09] <popey> yes mrqtros
[18:09] <rschroll> Note that it will give confusing errors if you try to open files you had previously added
[18:09] <mrqtros> popey moment :)
[18:09] <popey> my bad
[18:10] <mitya57> popey: "found binaries for architecture 'all': " ← again? I do have architecture set in manifest...
[18:11] <clepto> mitya57, try recompiling
[18:11] <mrqtros> popey I've got "Server error: Upload failed due to an Server error. Details: INTERNAL SERVER ERROR code 500."  Reuploading now.
[18:14] <mrqtros> popey done! :) Try it please again :)
[18:15] <nik90_> rschroll: I installed your app
[18:15] <popey> mrqtros: 0.8.1?
[18:15] <mrqtros> yep
[18:15] <popey> k
[18:15] <nik90_> rschroll: I got the info, but when I press okay, nothing happens
[18:15] <nik90_> rschroll: I am still stuck in that info dialog
[18:15] <popey> mrqtros: same ☹     "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': "
[18:15] <rschroll> nik90_: hmm.  that's a failure mode I haven't seen
[18:16] <nik90_> rschroll: I think it is my issue. rebooting phone
[18:16] <mrqtros> popey have can I fix it? :( I already included "architecture" field in manifest
[18:16] <clepto> mrqtros, did you try to recompile?
[18:16] <mrqtros> mitya57 can you provide me with example of your manifest? :)
[18:16] <mrqtros> clepto recompile what? :)
[18:17] <mrqtros> clepto I hope that C++ plugin is ok
[18:17] <mitya57> popey: reuploaded 1.2, now should be better
[18:17] <clepto> mrqtros, your c++ plugin
[18:17] <mrqtros> clepto app is running ok, just simply problem in manifest
[18:18] <clepto> mrqtros, run where? pc
[18:18] <mrqtros> "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': "
[18:18] <clepto> ?
[18:18] <mrqtros> clepto no no, popey recently tested it on his device :)
[18:18] <clepto> oh ok
[18:18] <mrqtros> I need to fix error above
[18:18] <clepto> popey, test images, it will take a minute :)
[18:20] <mitya57> sorry, network lags
[18:21] <mrqtros> mitya57 I still get error even with "architecture" : "armhf"
[18:23] <mrqtros> Anyone can tell me how to set architecture in my package? :) I've done all like in http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/getting-started/creating-click-packages-with-cpp-extensions/ and still get errors on review.
[18:24] <nik90_> rschroll: it works!!!!!!!
[18:24] <rschroll> nik90_: Great!  Thanks for testing.
[18:24] <nik90_> rschroll: so I downloaded a ebook from project gutenberg, (sherlock holmes) starting reading it.. nice work!
[18:24] <nik90_> rschroll: I love the page animatiion
[18:25] <rschroll> I can't take credit for that -- the wonderful Monocle library is doing all the heavy lifting of displaying the epub
[18:25] <mrqtros> popey is it possible to fix this warning if noone knows how? :D
[18:26] <randomcpp> nik90, http://ubuntuone.com/0Lf3oA6Xg19NjJAypv7h5u nik90_
[18:26] <randomcpp> try this one please
[18:26] <popey> mrqtros: excellent question
[18:26] <popey> beuno: you about?
[18:27] <mitya57> mrqtros: I now get it again, as well :(
[18:27] <nik90_> rschroll: so basically you proved that your app has access to .local/share/App_name
[18:27] <nik90_> clepto: ^^
[18:27] <mrqtros> popey just try to understand me :) I simply want to participate in Showdown, and deadline is really near
[18:27] <nik90_> randomcpp: sure
[18:27] <clepto> nik90_, could you test? http://ubuntuone.com/7GWydcSVwJaboXQ85hrkfj i need to see if it works for me too
[18:28] <nik90_> clepto: after randomcpp
[18:28] <clepto> ok
[18:28] <randomcpp> nik90_, I should have fixed the directory bug
[18:28] <mrqtros> popey and I can't due to simple warning line in store ... Seems that I am unlucky :(
[18:28] <popey> mrqtros: i completely understand your frustration
[18:28] <mitya57> it's very unfortunate that the process is not documented and we should figure out how to fix that ourselves
[18:28] <randomcpp> now files are written to ~/.local/share/com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon
[18:28] <rschroll> nik90_: Yes.
[18:29]  * mitya57 still waits a review from popey (though probably I'll go to bed after that — will have to wake up at ~2.30 utc tomorrow)
[18:29] <rschroll> But if you try to access this though QStandardPaths::writableLocation(), it doesn't work by default b/c the organization and appliation name are those of qmlscene
[18:30] <rschroll> So you have to set those manually.
[18:30] <mrqtros> popey it is not possible to pass review with that warning? :(
[18:30] <randomcpp> rschroll, use QStandardPaths::GenericDataLocation
[18:30] <randomcpp> then append you app name
[18:30] <randomcpp> from the manifest
[18:30] <clepto> randomcpp, +1
[18:30] <popey> mrqtros: lemme test it some more and then yeah, I'll pass it
[18:30] <clepto> used the same
[18:31] <popey> mitya57: one moment
[18:31] <nik90_> randomcpp, clepto: Give me 5 minutes, I am reflashing phone since I previously installed your app which makes testing newer version difficult
[18:31] <clepto> ok
[18:31] <nik90_> randomcpp,clepto: I am assuming both of you fixed the directory stuff rite?
[18:31] <clepto> nik90_, yes
[18:31] <nik90_> randomcpp, clepto: If you want to fix additional stuff, go ahead
[18:31] <randomcpp> nik90_, I hope so
[18:32] <clepto> nik90_, if it works I'll something else too, I need to see if it works first
[18:32] <nik90_> clepto: okay
[18:33] <rschroll> randomcpp: That's another way to do it.  It'd be nice if writableLocation worked, though, so you don't have to hardcode the package name into the program
[18:33] <mrqtros> popey my app package is pretty simple and clear - qml files, *.json files and one folder with my c++ extension: libYadPlugin.so and qmldir. That is all.
[18:34] <mrqtros> popey I have no any idea how to  specify arch for that binary :(
[18:34] <mrqtros> popey google says nothing :(
[18:34] <popey> I am inclined to think that we should approve apps which are failing that test should be let through
[18:34] <popey> gimmie 5 mins
[18:35] <clepto> mrqtros, why don't you try to recompile? maybe it works
[18:35] <popey> ooh, saving in TouchWriter works now!
[18:35] <mitya57> popey: yay! thanks!
[18:36] <popey> approved
[18:36] <popey> mrqtros: approved
[18:36] <popey> beru next
[18:36] <mrqtros> popey thanks!!! :))
[18:36] <mitya57> popey: thanks! you are hero! :)
[18:36] <popey> np
[18:36] <mrqtros> popey I am pretty happy :)))
[18:36] <popey> thanks for your patience guys!
[18:36] <rschroll> popey: Hang on five minutes - I've a little UI fix coming
[18:36] <popey> And good luck!
[18:37] <popey> rschroll: ok
[18:37] <randomcpp> kalikiana, super ping
[18:38] <nik90_> randomcpp: sry, white screen on load :(
[18:38] <popey> which app nik90_ ?
[18:38] <randomcpp> nik90_, I don't know
[18:38] <randomcpp> I haven't changed anythin
[18:38] <popey> oh, saucy
[18:39] <randomcpp> nik90_, it used to work for someone
[18:39] <nik90_> popey: may be the desktop file is looking at wrong location? (saucybacon)
[18:39] <popey> lemme take a look
[18:39]  * nik90_ tries cnote quickly now
[18:39] <clepto> nik90_, try to add an image
[18:39] <randomcpp> popey, http://ubuntuone.com/0Lf3oA6Xg19NjJAypv7h5u
[18:39] <popey> randomcpp: i have ~/Downloads/com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon_1.0.5_unknown.click from the site.. is that the right one?
[18:40] <popey> oh, com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon_1.0.5_all.click looks better
[18:40]  * popey tries that
[18:40] <randomcpp> yes
[18:40] <randomcpp> that's him
[18:40] <popey> ok, testing
[18:41] <rschroll> popey: This one has one more button, so it must be better.
[18:42] <popey> hah
[18:42] <popey> i love the icon
[18:42] <popey> Is that one from Lucas?
[18:42] <randomcpp> yep :)
[18:42] <popey> sweet
[18:42] <randomcpp> he's a genius
[18:43] <popey> root      1979  0.0  0.0   1312   232 ?        S    18:42   0:00 sleep 59
[18:43] <popey> just what you want to see on a phone
[18:43] <popey> sheesh
[18:43] <popey> white screen here too... hmm
[18:44] <clepto> nik90_, don't tell me white screen too :P
[18:44] <popey> QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display
[18:44] <popey> hmmm
[18:45] <randomcpp> popey, the only thing I've changed it's in the .desktop  Exec field
[18:45]  * rschroll goes for a walk, but will happily read feedback on return
[18:45] <randomcpp> it was /usr/bin/qmlscene
[18:45] <nik90_> clepto: yup works :)
[18:45] <randomcpp> now it's qmlscene
[18:45] <clepto> nik90_, you can see the images??
[18:45] <randomcpp> with all the arguments ofc
[18:46] <nik90_> clepto: so I tried the camera, it saved the image to the note. I restart the app and see the saved note along with its images.
[18:46] <clepto> nik90_, does camera orientation is correct?
[18:46] <clepto> nik90_, perfect
[18:46] <popey> file:///opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon/1.0.5/app/saucybacon.qml:23 plugin cannot be loaded for module "SaucyBacon": Cannot load library /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon/1.0.5/modules/SaucyBacon/libSaucyBaconPlugin.so: (libQt5Script.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[18:46] <nik90_> clepto: althought there was one small bug about the camera
[18:46] <clepto> ?
[18:46] <nik90_> clepto: the live preview had the correct orientation but the saved image was off 90 degrees
[18:46] <clepto> hm
[18:47] <randomcpp> popey, o.O
[18:47] <clepto> nik90_, I'll find a fix for that
[18:47] <clepto> nik90_, thanks!!
[18:47] <nik90_> clepto: also, I clicked capture without setting title, when I did that, the buttons went off screen
[18:47] <nik90_> clepto: they are 10% visible, so I managed to click it
[18:47] <randomcpp> ahhh
[18:47] <randomcpp> popey, can you install a pkg?
[18:47] <nik90_> clepto: also i am unable to edit/update a existing note. The apply button does nothing
[18:47] <randomcpp> qt5script isn't installed by default
[18:48] <nik90_> clepto: scratch that previous bug. I can successfully edit/update a note.
[18:48] <clepto> nik90_, pff, don't scare me man
[18:48] <popey> randomcpp: libqt5script5 ?
[18:48] <randomcpp> yes!
[18:48] <nik90_> clepto: hehe
[18:48] <popey> I can, but users can't
[18:49] <popey> lemme install to test
[18:49] <clepto> nik90_, will be here for the next couple of hours?
[18:49] <nik90_> clepto: going to have dinner now, but be back in 30 minutes.
[18:49] <clepto> nik90_, ok!
[18:50] <nik90_> popey: how are things with saucybacon?
[18:50] <nik90_> so the status as of now is that Beru and CNotes can save stuff consistently (along with camera images)
[18:50] <nik90_> clepto: please share the fixes with randomcpp so that he can fix them on his side as well.
[18:50] <nik90_> good luck guys!
[18:51] <popey> nik90_: just installing a dependancy
[18:51] <clepto> nik90_, randomcpp did the same thing with me, GenericDataLocation and append name
[18:51] <clepto> nik90_, thanks!
[18:53] <popey> nik90_: you using cdimage-touch on your device, right?
[18:54] <popey> randomcpp: installing libqt5script5 didn't fix it, might be something else missing.. one moment
[18:54] <popey> ooh, starts from command line
[18:54] <popey> randomcpp: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-195451.png
[18:55] <randomcpp> cgreat
[18:55] <randomcpp> that's something:p
[18:55] <popey> yeah ☻
[18:55] <randomcpp> can you edit the .desktop from there?
[18:56] <popey> sure
[18:57] <popey> \o/ wedge phone
[18:57] <popey> "adb reboot" is probably the most used command on my laptop right now
[18:58] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6111814/ #3, surprised it's not more
[18:59] <randomcpp> try to change qmlscene to /usr/bin/qmlscene
[18:59] <randomcpp> that's stupid
[19:00] <randomcpp> or
[19:00] <randomcpp> no
[19:00] <randomcpp> qmlscene -I ./modules/ ./app/saucybacon.qml
[19:00] <popey> ooh!
[19:00] <randomcpp> guessing ..
[19:01] <popey> now I have rebooted (and having libqt5script5 installed) it runs from the icon
[19:01] <popey> so no need to do any of that
[19:01] <popey> just need to have libqt5script5 installed for it to work
[19:01] <randomcpp> good
[19:01] <popey> which is a bit of a problem. I don't know if we "need" to put that in the base image
[19:01] <randomcpp> click doesn't support dependencies
[19:02] <popey> sure, but it could be that the package is needed by other apps
[19:02] <popey>  in which case it could be argued it should be part of the base install
[19:02] <popey> I'll file a bug
[19:02] <randomcpp> thank you
[19:02] <randomcpp> :)
[19:02] <popey> np
[19:03] <randomcpp> popey, could you check if everything works?
[19:03] <randomcpp> now the directories should be ok
[19:03] <popey> ya, one mo
[19:04] <popey> randomcpp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1225749 confirm that
[19:04] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1225749 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "libqt5script5 should be in the base image" [Undecided,New]
[19:05] <randomcpp> done
[19:05] <popey> randomcpp: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-200453.png http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-200501.png http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-200506.png http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-200510.png
[19:05] <popey> one thing I couldn't capture, wasn't quick enough
[19:05] <popey> the "loading recipe please wait" text is too wide for the screen
[19:06] <popey> it crops off the left and right
[19:06] <randomcpp> popey, I know
[19:06] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-200607.png
[19:06] <popey> k
[19:06] <popey> nice app!
[19:06] <randomcpp> I'll add a line break
[19:06] <randomcpp> when it works it looks nice :)
[19:06] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-200634.png
[19:07] <popey> man this is great!
[19:07] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-200743.png I can't get to the last one on the screen here
[19:07] <randomcpp> :)
[19:07] <popey> if I pull up it snaps back down
[19:08] <randomcpp> strage
[19:08] <randomcpp> strange*
[19:08] <randomcpp> popey, you're right
[19:08] <popey> looks like it needs a bit of padding at the bottom
[19:09] <randomcpp> easy to fix
[19:09] <popey> cool
[19:09] <randomcpp> thanks again :)
[19:09] <popey> np
[19:09] <popey> I forsee myself using this particular app!
[19:09] <randomcpp> that's because I've added the "Powered by.."
[19:12] <popey> remove "your"
[19:12] <randomcpp> "Please wait.. \n Serving up recipe."
[19:12] <randomcpp> ?
[19:12] <popey> yeah.
[19:12] <popey> What do you think?
[19:14] <randomcpp> I'm not good at English, but it sounds good
[19:14] <clepto> randomcpp, where are you from?
[19:14] <randomcpp> Italy
[19:15] <popey> I thought "serving" would be nice as it's food related ☻
[19:15] <clepto> randomcpp, neighbor :D
[19:16] <randomcpp> clepto, France?
[19:16] <clepto> nik90_, I don't its possible to fix camera rotation with qml
[19:16] <clepto> randomcpp, Greece :)
[19:16] <clepto> nik90_, don't think*
[19:17] <randomcpp> popey, are recipes and categories persistent?
[19:17] <randomcpp> is camera rotated correctly?
[19:20] <popey> oh, I didnt realise it did camera stuff
[19:21] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-202130.png
[19:23] <popey> randomcpp: when editing the recipe text, you can't see the field, because the on screen keyboard obscures it
[19:23] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-202329.png
[19:24] <popey> randomcpp: categories are not persistent
[19:25] <popey> randomcpp: i deleted a recipe I made, but instead of deleting, I have a star next to it
[19:25] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-202519.png
[19:26] <popey> deleted the sloppy joes one, now I have two with stars.. http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-202557.png
[19:29] <jGleitz> Guys, I really would like to know how to upload my package! See https://plus.google.com/112114577111064174226/posts/ijRukyX7wpB
[19:30] <popey> jGleitz: Is it the hyphen in your name?
[19:31] <jGleitz> I don’ know
[19:31] <popey> dont recall seeing any apps go in which had hyphenated names of developers
[19:31] <popey> me either ☻
[19:31] <jGleitz> I’ll try
[19:31] <jGleitz> But I can only change that in the package
[19:31] <popey> thats a question for beuno (already tagged on that G+ conversation)
[19:32] <jGleitz> Omitting the hyphen in the package doesn’t solve this
[19:32] <jGleitz> But thanks
[19:36]  * popey spies a new beru icon
[19:43] <randomcpp> popey, I don't know how to fix the keyboard bug
[19:44] <randomcpp> popey, you can't delete recipes properly atm
[19:44] <popey> i think some have nudged the content up when the kb appears. nik90_ may have seen other apps doing it
[19:44] <randomcpp> u1db bug
[19:44] <popey> ok
[19:44] <randomcpp> I'll hide the button
[19:44] <randomcpp> :(
[19:45] <randomcpp> popey, saucybacon has been published :)
[19:45] <popey> indeed ☻
[19:45] <popey> Queue now empty \o/
[19:46] <randomcpp> popey, are recipes persistent?
[19:46] <randomcpp> I don't know why categories aren't
[19:46] <popey> yes
[19:48] <jGleitz> What shall we do? How can we participate as we cannot upload the click package?
[19:48] <randomcpp> popey, run: ls ~/.local/share/com.ubuntu.developer.gcollura.saucybacon please
[19:48] <randomcpp> nik90_, ping
[19:49] <popey> imgs  sb-recipes.db
[19:49] <popey> jGleitz: gimmie a download of the .click package
[19:49] <randomcpp> o.O
[19:49] <jGleitz> I’ll do that soon. Doing the last polish
[19:49] <jGleitz> Or is it important to do that now?
[19:49] <popey> give me current state to run our checks against
[19:50] <popey> then you will have some feedback
[19:50] <popey> you dont want to submit last min and find errors
[19:50] <popey> and I can make sure nik90_ and the other judges know that we can take your submission even if the website is broken
[19:51] <popey> I'll be around till the contest closes in a few hours
[19:51] <randomcpp> popey, when an app is closed, is it killed right?
[19:51] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ date -u
[19:51] <popey> Sun Sep 15 19:51:07 UTC 2013
[19:51] <popey> 2 hours 10 mins ☻
[19:51] <popey> randomcpp: yes
[19:51] <randomcpp> so destructor may be not called correctly?
[19:51] <popey> correct
[19:51] <popey> you are not the first to discover this ☹
[19:52] <randomcpp> popey, I think it's a serious bug :/
[19:52] <popey> no.. thats not right... 4 hours 10 mins!
[19:52] <popey> randomcpp: I agree.
[19:52] <randomcpp> should I look for a workaround?
[19:52] <popey> i dont see any open bugs yet
[19:53] <popey> can you save at other points?
[19:53] <popey> but this is a platform issue IMO
[19:53] <randomcpp> popey, I don't know where to save
[19:54] <randomcpp> there should be a sb-settings.json in the dir I told you
[19:54] <popey> ah.
[19:57] <randomcpp> I could set that each time a recipe is saved or a search completed the settings.json is saved, but it's really tedious and redundant
[19:58] <popey> I hope that nik90_ and the other judges will be fair given the sdk isn't "done" yet.
[19:58] <clepto> popey, me too
[19:58] <randomcpp> popey, I can reproduce your bug if I call xkill on the app windows
[19:58] <randomcpp> window*
[19:59] <randomcpp> popey, u1db isn't done either :/
[19:59] <randomcpp> I have some serious bugs with that
[20:02] <jGleitz> popey: Thank you very much for your help!
[20:02] <popey> jGleitz: no problem
[20:02] <jGleitz> Here is the click package: http://ubuntuone.com/1aInoLCfsh0Pmc2cq0gqUe
[20:02]  * popey clicks
[20:02] <popey> (lol)
[20:03] <popey> no errors, only one warning jGleitz
[20:03] <popey>     "desktop_Comment_boilerplate (geldliste)": "Comment uses SDK boilerplate 'My project description'"
[20:03] <popey> pretty good going ☻
[20:04] <jGleitz> popey: Good to hear :) Will update the project description.
[20:05] <mzanetti> popey: hey, what does this exactly mean?  "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': "
[20:06] <popey> jGleitz: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-210551.png
[20:06] <popey> jGleitz: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-210621.png
[20:07] <jGleitz> popey: Thanks! Not the best layout planing we did there. What’s the size of the screen in grid units?
[20:08] <popey> jGleitz: no clue, it's a Nexus 4 ⍨
[20:08] <popey> mzanetti: great question.
[20:08] <popey> mzanetti: (pass)
[20:08] <randomcpp> popey, is there any judge to ask about how sdk related bugs are treated?
[20:08] <popey> mzanetti: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-210758.png ☻
[20:08] <popey> randomcpp: nik90_ ☻
[20:09] <clepto> randomcpp, you use camera too right?
[20:10] <mzanetti> popey: should I see anything special on that screenshot?
[20:10] <popey> nope ☻
[20:10] <popey> just playing with the app
[20:10] <popey> taking a very long journey ☻
[20:10] <mzanetti> ah :)
[20:11] <randomcpp> clepto, yep
[20:11]  * mzanetti doesn't know how to make screenshots on the phone
[20:11] <randomcpp> popey, have you tried camera and photo loading?
[20:11] <popey> mzanetti: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/phablet-flash-wrapper/view/head:/screenshot.sh
[20:11] <clepto> randomcpp, did you use cameraState, flash.mode etc?
[20:11] <clepto> do*
[20:12] <randomcpp> I use cameraState to enable/disable camera
[20:12] <popey> randomcpp: yes, i pasted a screenshot earlier
[20:12]  * randomcpp missed it
[20:12] <popey> randomcpp: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-202130.png
[20:13] <popey> i have taken a lot of pictures of my keyboard :D
[20:13] <randomcpp> yay camera is rotated correctly :D
[20:13] <randomcpp> popey, nice laptop :)
[20:13] <clepto> randomcpp, video output maybe, but actually photos I think not
[20:13] <popey> ☻
[20:13] <clepto> randomcpp, same problem here
[20:14] <clepto> popey, could you confirm?
[20:14] <popey> confirm what?
[20:15] <clepto> popey, that pictures from saucybacon are rotated
[20:16] <clepto> popey, actually pictures, not previews
[20:16] <popey> clepto: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-202130.png
[20:16] <clepto> thats the actually picture?
[20:16] <popey> that's with the camera on
[20:16] <clepto> not a preview from camera?
[20:16] <popey> yeah, preview
[20:16] <clepto> snap a picture
[20:16] <popey> k
[20:16] <clepto> then look at actual picture
[20:18] <popey> hmm
[20:18] <popey> pic doesn't end up in recipe
[20:18] <popey> the picture freezes for a moment but doesn't seem to save
[20:18] <clepto> randomcpp, ^
[20:20] <randomcpp> popey, yay another policy related bug :)
[20:20] <randomcpp> photos took with camera are saved in ~/Pictures
[20:21] <randomcpp> the app can't write there
[20:21] <clepto> randomcpp, save them in .local/share/mplamplampla for now
[20:22] <randomcpp> clepto, not that easy
[20:22] <clepto> randomcpp, oh
[20:22] <randomcpp> camera.imageCapture.setCaptureLocation wants a filename
[20:23] <randomcpp> not a location/directory
[20:23] <clepto> randomcpp, yes, so?
[20:23] <clepto> randomcpp, create random filename if thats a problem
[20:23] <randomcpp> you need to generate a new original filename each time a photo is saved
[20:24] <randomcpp> Math.random isn't so random
[20:24] <clepto> randomcpp, where do you get the image from?
[20:24] <randomcpp> ?
[20:24] <popey> can you not create a photo using yyyy-mm-dd-hh-mm-ss ?
[20:24] <clepto> randomcpp, ask the user to add a title
[20:24] <clepto> thats what i'm doing
[20:25] <randomcpp> popey, filename must be set *before* the photo is taken
[20:25] <randomcpp> I can write the image to /tmp
[20:25] <randomcpp> then move the img to another directory and change the filename
[20:26] <randomcpp> should work this way
[20:26] <clepto> popey, could you test please? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/61/
[20:26] <randomcpp> can I write to /tmp?
[20:26] <clepto> popey, go to the image dialog (where you snap a picture) and tell me if buttons are good or offset
[20:29] <clepto> beuno, ping
[20:31] <clepto> popey, ping ping ping!!! sorry but really need you :P
[20:32] <clepto> nik90_, I don't think I can fix the bug with images
[20:34] <randomcpp> popey, does export as pdf work?
[20:35] <popey> sorry chaps, went to make some popcorn
[20:35]  * nik90_ is back :)
[20:35] <nik90_> randomcpp, clepto: have a click package I can test?
[20:35] <clepto> nik90_,
[20:35] <nik90_> popey: lol :)
[20:35] <mzanetti> popey: hey, I'd have a package ready with the fixes to the .desktop file. But I'm really not sure what I should do about the architecture issue. Can you help me there?
[20:36] <popey> mzanetti: I honestly don't know
[20:36] <clepto> nik90_, can you test from here? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/61/ or you want u1?
[20:36] <mzanetti> hmm... ok
[20:36] <popey> mzanetti: I have been approving apps with that issue
[20:36] <clepto> popey, can you accept? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/61/
[20:36] <mzanetti> ok
[20:36] <nik90_> clepto: need click, the other link is restriced
[20:36] <popey> nik90_: lemme test first then you can when I publish
[20:37] <nik90_> popey: okay
[20:37] <clepto> popey, :)
[20:37] <popey> 21:25:06 < randomcpp> popey, filename must be set *before* the photo is taken
[20:37] <popey> randomcpp: i dont see where to set the photo filename
[20:37] <clepto> popey, go to the image dialog (where you snap a picture) and tell me if buttons are good or offset
[20:38] <popey> ya
[20:38] <clepto> popey, good?
[20:38] <wellsb> randomcpp: pictures work now.  Nicely done!
[20:38] <randomcpp> popey, I meant in qt api
[20:38] <popey> mzanetti: just found a comment another app from beuno saying "I'm going to approve, as we don't have full support for architectures yet, and it's compiled for armhf.
[20:38] <randomcpp> wellsb, you can load images from the filesystem?
[20:38] <popey> so I'm approving all apps which have that issue now
[20:39] <popey> clepto: hang on..
[20:39] <mzanetti> popey: perfect. I'll upload the other fixes then
[20:39] <popey> randomcpp: ah
[20:39] <mzanetti> thanks a lot
[20:39] <popey> np
[20:39] <danielholm> hi all, how do put a button at the bottom?
[20:39] <danielholm> some kind of anchor. right?
[20:39] <wellsb> randomcpp: I haven't tried that again.  I mean pictures loaded from the web now show up when I save a recipe
[20:40] <randomcpp> wellsb, nice :)
[20:40] <popey> clepto: approved... nik90_ you can test cnotes  now
[20:41] <clepto> nik90_, go to the image dialog (where you snap a picture) and tell me if buttons are good or offset
[20:41] <randomcpp> popey, ok now camera photos are saved in ~/.local/share(../imgs
[20:42] <randomcpp> wellsb, can I write files to /tmp right?
[20:42] <randomcpp> is this directory always accessible?
[20:44] <nik90_> popey: how do I update an app? Since I have it installed, I do not see it in the more suggestion category
[20:44] <popey> excellent question!
[20:44] <randomcpp> wellsb, I don't need /tmp anymore ;)
[20:45] <wellsb> nik90_: I've been wondering that myself
[20:46] <nik90_> wellsb, popey: I tried long pressing the app icon, but it only shows the launch action
[20:46] <wellsb> Does long pressing the duplicate icon show install if an update is available?
[20:46] <nik90_> wellsb: on long pressing duplicate icon, I see open, pin to launcher and uninstall
[20:46]  * nik90_ tries uninstall
[20:47] <nik90_> uninstall opens the app!
[20:47] <randomcpp> lol
[20:48] <nik90_> randomcpp: is your working app added to the store?
[20:48] <randomcpp> nik90_, yeah but I need to push a new pkg
[20:48] <randomcpp> with some fixes
[20:49] <nik90_> randomcpp, clepto: I will give some more time before reflashing my phone to get your fresh packages. Can you try to fix any remaining bugs by then and submit to store pls
[20:49] <randomcpp> popey, does the app let you choose photos from the ~/pictures folder?
[20:49] <popey> randomcpp: let me se
[20:50] <clepto> nik90_, I don't think I have something to fix... I don't remember any other issue... known at least
[20:50] <randomcpp> nik90_, "any remaining bugs" lol
[20:50] <clepto> nik90_, not sure though :P
[20:50] <nik90_> randomcpp: "any remaining bugs" you are aware of  :)
[20:50] <randomcpp> nik90_, there's a big bug with the sdk
[20:51] <randomcpp> destructors aren't called with an app is closed on the phone
[20:51] <randomcpp> when*
[20:51] <nik90_> randomcpp: yeah I saw that being reported. I am sorry its being identified so late
[20:51] <randomcpp> randomcpp, that's why categories and search history aren't saved
[20:51] <wellsb> randomcpp: Perhaps the downloaded images should be purged if a recipe is deleted
[20:52] <popey> randomcpp: no, photos from the pictures folder don't show up in the list
[20:52] <nik90_> randomcpp: but were you able to fix that? By changing the code?
[20:52] <popey> randomcpp: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-215206.png
[20:52] <randomcpp> wellsb, recipes can't be deleted :) u1db bug
[20:52] <nik90_> randomcpp: iBelieve also had that
[20:52] <randomcpp> popey, I need a special policy
[20:52] <randomcpp> popey, mefrio has that
[20:53] <clepto> randomcpp, picture_files ?
[20:53] <randomcpp> yes
[20:53] <randomcpp> popey, picture_files
[20:53] <clepto> randomcpp, why don't you add it then?
[20:54] <randomcpp> clepto, someone told me to remove it..
[20:54] <randomcpp> nik90_, do you know how he did that?
[20:54] <clepto> randomcpp, you should talk to beuno
[20:55] <clepto> randomcpp, explain him why you need it
[20:55] <popey> randomcpp: whats the link to your app?
[20:55] <randomcpp> beuno, ping
[20:55] <popey> on the store
[20:55] <randomcpp> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/82/
[20:55] <popey> ta
[20:55] <nik90_> randomcpp: I think he removed the onDestruction code
[20:55] <popey> i see nothing in the conversation there about it
[20:56] <popey> ok, found it in memories ...
[20:56] <popey> randomcpp: yes, add picture_files, I'll approve
[20:56] <randomcpp> thank you popey
[20:57] <popey> all these apps with picture_files will probably be revoked at some point in favour of the content_hub
[20:57] <popey> but given that's not landed yet..
[20:59] <randomcpp> nik90_, that's funny
[20:59] <randomcpp> qml destructors aren't called
[20:59] <randomcpp> but c++ destructors are called correctly
[20:59] <nik90_> randomcpp: in the sense that the code you included in the destructor was moved
[21:00] <nik90_> randomcpp: I think you are referring to C++ destructors, while I am referring to component.onDestrcution
[21:01] <randomcpp> c++ destructors are called correctly, but Component.onDestruction aren't called
[21:01] <clepto> nik90_, ping me when you test cnotes :)
[21:01] <randomcpp> fixed anyway
[21:01] <clepto> anyones know why xchat doesn't play sound on highlighted message? I have it check in settings
[21:02] <nik90_> clepto: sure
[21:02] <randomcpp> clepto, Preferences > Chatting > Alerts
[21:02] <wellsb> rschroll: I see you packaged some fonts.  Looks good
[21:03] <randomcpp> nik90_, I got category filtering working
[21:03] <randomcpp> but it's a really really hack-ish fix
[21:03] <clepto> randomcpp, http://imagebin.ubuntu-gr.org/1379279015.png
[21:03] <randomcpp> I hope to remove it as soon as this is fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/u1db-qt/+bug/1214538
[21:03] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1214538 in U1DB Qt/ QML "Not indexing documents unless all fields are in the index expression clause" [Critical,Confirmed]
[21:04] <nik90_> randomcpp: okay
[21:04] <nik90_> randomcpp: Should I test your package now?
[21:04] <randomcpp> not uploaded yet
[21:04] <randomcpp> I need to crosscompile before
[21:05] <randomcpp> wellsb, popey recipes can't be deleted due to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/u1db-qt/+bug/1219862
[21:05] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1219862 in U1DB Qt/ QML "Deleted documents show up in Database as a model" [High,Confirmed]
[21:09] <rschroll> wellsb: Thanks.  There weren't many installed by default, so I picked out a few I liked.  Perhaps they can make it into the default image eventually.
[21:12] <randomcpp> nik90_, wellsb popey 1.0.6 http://ubuntuone.com/44cpXXnZBUgFJ3mMqPvhSX
[21:12] <randomcpp> I hope I have fixed all the bugs you said me to fix
[21:13]  * randomcpp is uploading to app center
[21:13] <randomcpp> popey, uploaded
[21:14] <popey> yay
[21:15] <randomcpp>  "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': "
[21:15] <randomcpp> can I fix this?
[21:17] <clepto> randomcpp, popey will accept it
[21:17] <randomcpp> nik90_, is there a form I have to compile?
[21:18] <randomcpp> clepto, I know, I'm a perfectionist sometimes :p
[21:20] <nik90_> randomcpp: form? yes..
[21:21] <randomcpp> nik90_, link? :)
[21:21] <nik90_> randomcpp: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/09/get-your-apps-ready-for-the-showdown/
[21:21]  * nik90_ needs to go.
[21:21] <nik90_> randomcpp, clepto: will test your app. no worries
[21:22] <nik90_> good luck
[21:22] <wellsb> I must head off to bed.  Good night, all.  Enjoyed testing your apps today
[21:23] <randomcpp> wellsb, thanks and goodnight :)
[21:23] <popey> mzanetti: approved your fitbit app
[21:23] <mzanetti> popey: cheers
[21:23] <clepto> wellsb, thanks! goodnight!
[21:27] <jGleitz> popey: How will we participate? As we cannot fill out any form.
[21:27] <popey> jGleitz: you can fill the form out can you not?
[21:28] <popey> hmm, you have a broken app url though... erk
[21:28] <jGleitz> I need a link to the click package. May I just use a link to a file in my ubuntuOne?
[21:28] <jGleitz> popey: I don’t have an app url at all – that’s what I’m talking about
[21:28] <popey> sure, I understand
[21:28] <randomcpp> popey, can I submit new click pkg after the deadline?
[21:29] <popey> sure, but I believe they will judge based on the one you link to in the form
[21:30] <popey> nik90_: can you make a note to accept jGleitz's entry?
[21:31] <_5m0k3> randomcpp: search seems to be broken in this build. I'm away from PC now, but maybe you could have somebody follow up on that real fast
[21:32] <randomcpp> wellsb, do you click on an item and nothing happens?
[21:32] <wellsb> It's not searching for the query I type. It just fetches results for an empty string search
[21:35] <randomcpp> wellsb, what are the search query
[21:35] <randomcpp> I can't reproduce
[21:47] <popey> mzanetti: you planning on adding bluetooth sync to this app? :D
[21:48] <mzanetti> popey: its a closed protocol :/
[21:48] <popey> bah!
[21:48] <randomcpp> popey, I'll need 1.0.7 >.<
[21:48] <popey> randomcpp: i already approved it
[21:48] <randomcpp> popey, I haven't even pushed yet xD
[21:49] <popey> eh
[21:49] <popey> oh, my bad
[21:49] <randomcpp> don't worry :)
[21:55] <randomcpp> popey, could you test if exporting a recipe as pdf works?
[21:55] <randomcpp> it should create a file inside ~/Documents
[21:55] <popey> ya
[21:55] <clepto> randomcpp,
[21:56] <clepto> I don't think you can write to document
[21:56] <clepto> s
[21:56] <randomcpp> clepto, that was one of the best feature :(
[21:56] <jGleitz> popey: Really don’t wanna push at you, but I’m getting worried whether and how we’ll be able to participate :-/
[21:56] <clepto> randomcpp, I know.. Its frustrating
[21:57] <popey> jGleitz: I can't do anything about it I'm afraid, if the backend is broken, I can't fix it.
[21:57] <jGleitz> popey: Okay… :(
[21:57] <clepto> jGleitz, bother nik90_ with your problem
[21:57] <popey> jGleitz: I would drop an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(who organised the competition) to let him know what I said
[21:57] <jGleitz> popey: Okay, thank you very much
[21:58] <popey> randomcpp: nothing in ~/Documents
[21:58] <randomcpp> popey, it doesn't work great
[21:59] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-225934.png
[21:59] <popey> what does that mean randomcpp ? the bit at the bottom
[22:00] <popey> other recipes have directions, maybe that one just doesn't
[22:00] <randomcpp> popey, well, the code is there, when there will be a more reasonable policy management exporting will work
[22:00] <popey> cool, thats reasonable
[22:00] <randomcpp> popey, smittenkitchen is supported
[22:01] <randomcpp> thanks for pointing out
[22:01] <randomcpp> I'll add it right now
[22:01] <randomcpp> if you find other websites with this problem ping me or open an issue on github :)
[22:01] <popey> sure
[22:02] <randomcpp> popey, unfortunately I have to use regex (!) to retrieve directions and cooking times
[22:03] <popey> heh
[22:04] <randomcpp> popey, I've added an explaination when this happens, it will land in 1.0.7
[22:06] <popey> k
[22:09] <randomcpp> popey, do you remember the search query?
[22:09] <randomcpp> I need to test it
[22:11] <popey> noodles
[22:11] <popey> was chicken noodle soup
[22:11] <randomcpp> thanks
[22:11] <Zuardi> published!
[22:12] <Zuardi> I hope the long-click works because on qmlscene it didnt
[22:12] <rschroll> popey, nik90_, beuno, etc: I've uploaded a new version that gets rid of those passive-agressive dialogs about file paths.  I should never have put them in, and I apologize.  Thank you and everyone else for all the hard work and the help you've given me!
[22:13] <popey> rschroll: no problem dude
[22:13] <popey> Zuardi: which app?
[22:13] <Zuardi> Counters
[22:14] <popey> ah okay
[22:15] <rschroll> popey: I await the coming of the Content Hub, which shall solve all problems.
[22:19] <popey> Zuardi: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-231918.png
[22:19] <popey> Zuardi: works much better now, responds nice and quickly to taps
[22:20] <Zuardi> popey what about the context menu?
[22:20] <popey> Zuardi: can properly confuse the hell out of it by tapping all three counters at once :D
[22:20] <Zuardi> popey, if you long-press a number, does something happen?
[22:20] <popey> yes, colour chooser, close, reset options
[22:20] <Zuardi> oh yeah!!!!
[22:21] <Zuardi> it doesnt work on qmlscene
[22:21] <popey> the x doesn't work
[22:21] <popey> hold down, press x, the menu disappears and then it increments the counter
[22:21] <Zuardi> bad ui
[22:21] <Zuardi> the x is to remove a counter
[22:22] <Zuardi> no to close the menu
[22:22] <popey> yeah, i know, but it doesn't remove the counter
[22:22] <popey> the tap goes through the context menu into the counter and increments it
[22:22] <Zuardi> ok, that's a bug then
[22:22] <Zuardi> let me try it on my device
[22:22] <Zuardi> (android)
[22:24] <Zuardi> yep, it's a bug, fixing it now…
[22:24] <popey> cool
[22:25] <clepto> going to bed! popey, thanks for all your help the past couple of days! goodnight!
[22:26] <labsin> When I set an Image source on Sausy to "image://theme/reload" in qml I get "Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/reload" and I have done export UBUNTU_ICON_THEME="ubuntu-mobile"
[22:35] <randomcpp> popey, I've found a website that replies a nice 406 - "Not Acceptable"
[22:36] <Zuardi> popey I should start making this click packages on my main machine (they can be generated with dpkg right?) having to open the VM just to pull from github , copy to the qml project and generate the package is not optimal :P
[22:40] <Zuardi> ok, submitted 2 fixes, now the delete button should be functional :)
[22:41] <popey> ok
[22:41] <popey> heh yeah
[22:42] <popey> Zuardi: approved
[22:43] <Zuardi> let's see… 1h and 12 minutes…
[22:43] <Zuardi> I probably should'nt touch that thing anymore
[22:43] <popey> delete works, but
[22:43] <popey> i deleted the top counter and the tap on the x slipped through to the second counter as teh first disappeared
[22:44] <Zuardi> popey oh, that might be scrolling
[22:45] <Zuardi> the context menu doesnt stop scroll
[22:45] <Zuardi> so you can see things moving underneath
[22:45] <Zuardi> is that the bug?
[22:45] <labsin> Ok, I submitted the (hopefully) last version of my app solitaire games
[22:46] <popey> Zuardi: no, when i press the x my finger is still down, that counter disappears and my finger is still down, but over the next counter as they have moved. as I lift my finger that counter increments
[22:47] <Zuardi> oh, I see
[22:47] <Zuardi> yes, I should treat this case
[22:47] <popey> labsin: approved
[22:47] <Zuardi> thanks again for the great reports
[22:48] <labsin> popey, Could you try and install it? I haven't tested it at all on a phone
[22:48] <popey> Zuardi: no problem
[22:48] <popey> labsin: sure, already installed it
[22:48] <labsin> popey, What does it say?
[22:48] <popey> ok. first issue
[22:49] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-15-234858.png
[22:49] <popey> top games are off the top of the screen - that screenshot shows it as it is when you first run
[22:49] <popey> if I pull down to see the top ones, it snaps back up, so I can't tap them
[22:50] <labsin> popey, Strange...
[22:50] <labsin> popey, Ok, I have it to.
[22:58] <randomcpp> popey, I really hope 1.0.7 is the last one for today :p
[22:58] <popey> hehe
[22:58] <randomcpp> popey, I don't know how to fix the bug with the keyboard btw
[23:02] <randomcpp> popey, there are a lot of nice apps
[23:02] <popey> yeah
[23:05] <popey> randomcpp: approved
[23:05] <randomcpp> I saw it :) thank you
[23:05] <popey> np
[23:09] <labsin> popey, Got that one sorted out
[23:11] <popey> ok
[23:13] <labsin> uploaded a new version
[23:13] <popey> yeah, checking now
[23:14] <popey> done
[23:17] <randomcpp> popey, I go to sleep, I'll see tomorrow if I can make extra modifications..
[23:17] <randomcpp> I forgot to add a really nice feature :(
[23:18] <popey> well the contest runs out in 40 mins
[23:18] <popey> I don't know whether mods will be accepted after the time
[23:19] <popey> but good luck everyone!
[23:19] <popey> and I appreciate your patience!
[23:19] <randomcpp> but I need to sleep :(
[23:19] <popey> indeed
[23:19] <labsin> randomcpp, I need to be up in 3h...
[23:20] <randomcpp> labsin, well..go grab a coffee :)
[23:20] <randomcpp> you'll need it
[23:20] <popey> ☻
[23:20]  * popey wonders when breaking bad is on
[23:20] <labsin> randomcpp, I'll better leave it as it is now.
[23:21] <popey> wise
[23:21] <labsin> by all
[23:21] <popey> see ya
[23:21] <randomcpp> bye
[23:23] <randomcpp> so, now I go
[23:23] <randomcpp> tomorrow I'll write a blog post
[23:23] <popey> o/
[23:23] <popey> great, look forward to the feedback, thanks
[23:24] <randomcpp> night :)
[23:28] <Zuardi> ok popey, manage to sneak one last commit, counters 0.5.7
[23:32] <popey> Zuardi: sure
[23:33] <popey> oh, someone else approved it, it seems
[23:33] <Zuardi> bugfix release, should be better (although I am sleepy :P)
[23:33] <Zuardi> hooray
[23:41] <beuno> o/
[23:41] <beuno> just passing by to check up on the queue


[01:50] <docEbrown> Hey @cjwatson, the lubuntu-dev guys pointed me in your direction.  I have a question RE: the launchpadlib, I believe a recent update to httplib2 has caused some issues.  I have raised a bug in launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpadlib/+bug/1803558 but the team suggested I run this past you as well.  I'm happy to help on this issue as well.
[02:00] <cjwatson> docEbrown: proposed https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/lazr.restfulclient/httplib2-compat/+merge/358886 (CC wgrant).  I need to sleep now though
[02:00] <docEbrown> cool. Good night!
[13:55] <popey> hello. I am getting an "Uh oh!" when I try and edit a snap properties at https://launchpad.net/%7Epopey/+snap/krita/+edit
[13:56] <popey> "Technically, the load balancer took too long to connect to an application server. "
[14:32] <cjwatson> popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1793311 describes the problem and indicates a workaround
[14:34] <popey> aha! Thanks cjwatson
[15:21] <tomreyn> this looks spammy, should i file abug? https://launchpad.net/~gswv/+archive/ubuntu/save-the-world-on-fortnite-free-codes
[15:22] <cjwatson> tomreyn: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad rather than bugs for spam reports
[15:23] <tomreyn> thanks
[15:49] <tomreyn> next issue: https://i.imgur.com/ehEBxcG.png
[15:50] <cjwatson> tomreyn: you can't spell "launchpad"
[15:50] <cjwatson> or a more charitable version of that :)
[15:50] <tomreyn> oh my, sorry.
[15:51] <tomreyn> i actually clicked on a link on a launchpad.net page to get there, but i should have noticed it nevertheless
[15:51] <cjwatson> Must have been a user-provided link
[15:52] <tomreyn> not sure. the link i clicked on is "Read the full specification" at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/gearman-mysql-udf/+spec/tckhbba54
[15:52] <cjwatson> That's user-provided, yes
[15:52] <cjwatson> Good lord that's spammy
[15:53] <tomreyn> ok, this user is apparently 'special', but my policy is not to attempt to report users who are special, just those who intentionally do harm
[15:53] <cjwatson> We reserve the right to take action against obviously non-sensible uses
[15:54] <cjwatson> And that's just the spammer tactic of mixing in legit text with spam text to try to confuse filters
[15:55] <tomreyn> ok, will report more then
[16:32] <tomreyn> this is going to take a while longer, maybe more than i have time to spend
[16:32] <tomreyn> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alaunchpad.net+"support+number"
[16:47] <cjwatson> It's fine to batch them in a single ticket too
[16:47] <cjwatson> I can go through some of that but I too have finite time :)
[16:48] <tomreyn> okay, i'll batch some of these,, dont spend your time on it.
[16:58] <cjwatson> It does take Google some time to catch up sometimes.  I found a search result there that we dealt with on 2018-10-06.
[16:58] <tomreyn> yes, there are a lot of old cached pages in their index
[16:58] <tomreyn> which no longer exist live
[17:00] <tomreyn> goog search / webmaster console might help
[17:00] <tomreyn> * google
[17:51] <oSoMoN> I don't remember how to flag comments on LP as spam? https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1300382/comments/19
[17:52] <tomreyn> oSoMoN: i think oyu need to post a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[17:52] <oSoMoN> thanks, will do
[17:53] <jelmer> Launchpad appears to be timing out touching bugs, is something going on?
[17:54] <tomreyn> jelmer: not here. got an example bug id?
[17:54] <oSoMoN> done: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/676218
[17:54] <jelmer> tomreyn: OOPS-b170edcc24ec1783ba2dd9ced41cc4da
[17:55] <oSoMoN> it's also timing out for me when searching/editing bugs for the firefox source package
[17:55] <tomreyn> jelmer: i mean the url you're trying to access
[17:55] <jelmer> tomreyn: I'm trying to make changes to https://bugs.launchpad.net/brz/+bug/715547/
[17:57] <tomreyn> jelmer, ok. i can't personally look into this but maybe cjwatson can later.
[17:57] <tomreyn> jelmer: you should probably also report a bug at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[17:57] <tomreyn> (if you can)
[17:58] <cjwatson> jelmer: wait ten minutes and try again
[17:58] <cjwatson> known class of issue specifically with updating bugs for which that's the only remedy at the moment
[18:06] <jelmer> cjwatson: thanks!
[18:51] <jelmer> mgz: https://ci.breezy-vcs.org/job/brz/job/brz-land/50/testReport/junit/python2.breezy.tests.blackbox.test_log/TestLogErrors/test_log_bad_message_re/


[00:29] <OvenWerks> Sometimes I get the realtime permisions warning
[00:29] <OvenWerks> Then restart controls and it is ok?
[00:31] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: anyway, jack does work again
[00:31] <OvenWerks> But with PW running there is no pulse bridge (of course)
[00:32] <Eickmeyer> Right.
[00:44] <OvenWerks> Ga! pipewire does not play well with jack for me.
[00:46] <OvenWerks> start jack using an alsa device, pipewire releases it good, pipewire does not make a pseudo device called jack, bad. Now start pavucontrol  :P  the carla running on pipewire jack now shows the alsa device that jacck has on it's graph
[00:49] <OvenWerks> but I can't connect firefox to that alsa device, good
[00:51] <OvenWerks> I think I have had enough pipewire for today... will go watch some youtube instead
[00:53] <OvenWerks> I will have to turn pulse back on and at least make that work. Later.
[00:56] <Eickmeyer> See ya! o/