[12:50] <kenthomson> cybercod, ken@ken-ubuntu:~$ sudo disks-admin
[12:50] <kenthomson> sudo: disks-admin: command not found
[12:50] <fotoflo2> hey, does anyone know how to setup remote desktop?
[12:50] <kenthomson> Boknoy, PMs are allowed only from registered NICKs
[12:50] <lilly> i want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?
[12:50] <jamey31> Boknoy: sorry unregistered nick, should be working now
[12:50] <nobbi> I was using SuSE before and had less problems
[12:50] <fotoflo2> kenthomson: no ":"
[12:51] <kenthomson> nobbi, please consider reading this, most probably your question shall get solved, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/connect-to-internet.html
[12:51] <kenthomson> fotoflo2, i entered "sudo disks-admin" cant you see its a paste?
[12:51] <cybercod> ok.. ken.. one moment... currently logged into my linux box with xfce... so i'm having trouble finding it
[12:52] <kenthomson> cybercod, i can wait :0
[12:52] <fotoflo2> kenthomson: whoops
[12:52] <basvg> hey all.. I just installed banshee, it doesn't seem to see my ipod nano. I can mount the nano manually but then it *still* doesn't see it. Any thoughts ?
[12:52] <fotoflo2> hey, does anyone know how to setup remote desktop?
[12:53] <tomplast> Goodmorning everyone. I have just inserted a new graphics card in my computer. I still have the old one (a s3 pci) in my computer and today I inserted a Geforce MX in the AGP slot. My VGA cable is connected to the Geforce MX but when I try to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it detects the card as a S3 but I want it to detect the Geforce MX (which is now supposed to be my primary graphics card). Can anyone help me getting xserve
[12:53] <lilly> i want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?
[12:53] <nobbi> thanks, I'll try it
[12:53] <basvg> gtkpod seems to work, though
[12:53] <jamey31> tomplast: instead of letting it autodetect the module, select the correct one in the list
[12:53] <basvg> but I'd prefer banshee as it has a much better/nicer interface
[12:53] <phr34ck> Hey, I have downloaded the new version of gparted, and I have installed it, how can I make it launch when I write: sudo gparted? because when I Write that, it launched the default one
[12:54] <nobbi> is there a german community in irc?
[12:54] <nobbi> ????
[12:55] <tomplast> jamey31: So it's as simple as that ^^. I thought so but I wasnt sure
[12:55] <J-_> Probably, http://www.searchirc.com
[12:55] <tomplast> jamey31: Thanks for the help ^^. Take care
[12:55] <kenthomson> !gr
[12:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:55] <phr34ck> Hey, I have downloaded the new version of gparted, and I have installed it, how can I make it launch when I write: sudo gparted? because when I Write that, it launched the default one
[12:56] <noiesmo> nobbi, #ubuntu-de
[12:56] <lilly> i want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?
[12:56] <kenthomson> tomplast, If you are getting any display when you have connected your monitor to the new display card, that means that X has recognised it
[12:57] <kenthomson> phr34ck, only one version how gparted can exist at a time, so your question is infact bsaeless :)
[12:57] <cybercod> kenthomson try disks-conf
[12:57] <kenthomson> phr34ck, If you used synaptic it would have asked you to remove the older gparted if you wanted to install a new one "conflicting packages"
[12:57] <cybercod> sudo disks-conf
[12:57] <kenthomson> cybercod, command not found
[12:57] <phr34ck> kenthomson, I downloaded a .tar.gz and then I ran the install. so now I have an executable inside the folder, which is gparted.
[12:58] <phr34ck> I go to that folder but I cannot launch it.
[12:58] <cybercod> perhaps you don't have it installed... else it would be in your menu
[12:58] <kenthomson> phr34ck, i advice using synaptic/apt-get
[12:58] <kenthomson> cybercod, command not found
[12:58] <defcon8> I cannot find the ubuntu torrent on the site. Can someone help, please?
[12:58] <kenthomson> phr34ck, can you do this "sudo apt-get remove gparted"
[12:58] <phr34ck> kenthomson, Umm so my download was useless ... *Sighs*
[12:58] <cybercod> try looking for it in the repos
[12:58] <kenthomson> phr34ck, and then "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[12:59] <phr34ck> kenthomson, on what basis does it upgrade it?
[12:59] <defcon8> I do not see an option for a torrent file anywhere
[12:59] <kenthomson> cybercod, i looked for "disks" in the repos but got obscure results
[12:59] <phr34ck> is there an official website ?
[12:59] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: there doesn't seem to be any package availeble that's providing disks-admin in ubuntu ?
[01:00] <kenthomson> phr34ck, if you do "sudo apt-get upgrade", all your installed software including gparted will be updated so theres no need to install/download a new version
[01:00] <phr34ck> I see, thanks.
[01:00] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, yes
[01:00] <phr34ck> Well, I downloaded like 80 upgrades yesterday
[01:00] <phr34ck> I just run apt-get update, yes ?
[01:00] <kenthomson> phr34ck, "sudo apt-get update"
[01:00] <lilly> i want a shell script to run at boottime. where shd i add the code to?
[01:01] <defcon8> can someone tell me where the torrent is for ubuntu 6.10, please?
[01:01] <defcon8> simple question
[01:01] <cybercod> kenthomson... it is definately disks-admin... look for it in repos
[01:01] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: the command seems to be gone, it was there before edgy...
[01:01] <defcon8> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3rnJE0LC7I
[01:01] <defcon8> whoops
[01:01] <kenthomson> lilly please don't paste again and again, if someone is there he shall answer
[01:01] <defcon8> To use BitTorrent, choose a link from above corresponding to a location near you. You will see an option for a torrent file.
[01:01] <defcon8> I do not see a bloody link to a torrent file anywhere
[01:01] <kenthomson> cybercod, no result found in synaptic
[01:01] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, doesn't work in 6.10
[01:02] <cybercod> you got weird repos?
[01:02] <kenthomson> defcon8, why would you want to torrent it? Download it simply via the site
[01:02] <defcon8> kenthomson, the servers slow
[01:02] <kenthomson> cybercod, no my repos are not broken nor malfunctioning, they are perfectly fine
[01:02] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: like I said, it used to work in Dapper !
[01:02] <kenthomson> defcon8, its not likey that you shall get a faster speed via torrent
[01:02] <phr34ck> Man .... what the hell is wrong with SUDO ? I'm always getting Timespan something
[01:02] <kenthomson> defcon8, patience is the key, try a different server
[01:03] <kenthomson> phr34ck, if you are using graphical apps try "gksudo <app_name>" as in "gksudo gedit"
[01:03] <phr34ck> kenthomson, what does that do ?
[01:03] <kenthomson> cybercod, thelinuxguy: now where do i get that "disks" thing in System>administration?
[01:04] <kenthomson> phr34ck, thats the same as sudo but for graphical apps it behaves more nicely :)
[01:04] <cybercod> Ken its disks-admin in repos
[01:04] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson, I've found it: install with "sudo apt-get install pysdm"
[01:04] <cybercod> there we go
[01:04] <cybercod> nice
[01:04] <kenthomson> cybercod, there is nothing like "disks-admin" in repos
[01:04] <phr34ck> kenthomson,  I see, thanks.
[01:04] <thelinuxguy> then you will find it under system...Administration.....Storage Device Manager
[01:04] <thelinuxguy> Reply With Quote
[01:04] <cybercod> ok.. sorry for misinforming
[01:05] <phr34ck> same problem man ... timespan too far in the future ...
[01:05] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, thank you for informing, help is much appreciated can you tell me how did you find it out
[01:06] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: I searched the ubuntu forums on http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:06] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, :)
[01:06] <cybercod> i love those forums
[01:06] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, now that the package is installed what command do i enter at the CLI to get that disks thing?
[01:07] <kenthomson> disks-admin doesn't work
[01:07] <cybercod> i wish I was in gnome but i can't change now
[01:07] <kenthomson> psydm too doesn't work
[01:07] <phr34ck> Hey, I'm trying to install GCC 4.1.1 but I cannot do it since I'm having this error: C compiler does not exist.
[01:07] <phr34ck> What am I suppose to do ?
[01:07] <cybercod> its not in menu ?
[01:07] <crimsun> phr34ck, install build-essential
[01:07] <kenthomson> cybercod, nothing in menu
[01:08] <phr34ck> I already have it.
[01:08] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson; read the whole thread on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317742&highlight=disks-admin+in+edgy
[01:08] <crimsun> phr34ck, if you do, then ``gcc -v'' should work fine
[01:08] <fotoflo2> what is remote desktop called in ubuntu
[01:08] <fotoflo2> ?
[01:08] <kenthomson> crimsun, could you help me? I am on GNOME and am trying to get System>administration>Disks, but that entry doesn't exist. nor is it on edit-menu>Administration, so i installed package "psydm" now how do i run that Disks package?
[01:08] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, let me do that
[01:08] <phr34ck> crimsun, the thing is that I'm launching the configure file found inside the folder.
[01:09] <crimsun> kenthomson, I have no idea what you're referring to (no experience w/ those)
[01:09] <phr34ck> so it checks and everything, and then it stops on C compiler./
[01:09] <cybercod> phr34ck... perhaps the configuration script creates another executable?
[01:09] <crimsun> phr34ck, what are you trying to compile?
[01:09] <phr34ck> it does locate gcc, but it says that the compiler cannot process C or something
[01:09] <phr34ck> GCC 4.1.1
[01:09] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson; it's possible that you need to logout - and login - to see the changes in the gnome menu...
[01:09] <euan> Hi, I've manually stuffed up my X setup.  Can someone tell me which script the installer runs so  I can invoke that?  Seems the script's cleverer than me :-)
[01:10] <phr34ck> I don't know what the configure file is doing.
[01:10] <crimsun> phr34ck, err, why? gcc 4.1.1 is included with ubuntu.
[01:10] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, worked like a charm! Thank you, and one more thing this "psydm" thingy is not the same as "System>admin>Disks" But it shall work well too
[01:10] <kenthomson> Have a nice day! happy UBUNT-ing :) :) :)
[01:10] <phr34ck> crimsun, how can I know that?
[01:10] <phr34ck> feeling*
[01:11] <cybercod> I'm not good at building
[01:11] <crimsun> phr34ck, what's the output from gcc -v ?
[01:11] <cybercod> ... yet
[01:11] <kenthomson> thelinuxguy, sorry for the misinformation its the same thing :)
[01:11] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson; glad I could help ! Happy New Year ! :-)
[01:11] <phr34ck> hold on
[01:12] <euan> I'm stuck with a 640x480 desktop, that's the max available to me.  Before I stuffed it up I could go as high as 1600x1200 (not that my eyes could)
[01:12] <thelinuxguy> kenthomson: "Cheers" ! :-)
[01:13] <phr34ck> C compiler cannot create executables.
[01:13] <phr34ck> gcc C compiler does not work.
[01:13] <crimsun> phr34ck, that should not be the output from ``gcc -v''
[01:14] <phr34ck> okay, it gave me like 40 lines
[01:14] <kenthomson> euan, Do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and follow the simple instructions, sticking to the defaults as much as possible. IN the driver section select "nv" if you have nvidia card or VESA if you dont know, in the resolutions thing put a * by clicking space in the appropriate resolutions in that wizard
[01:14] <phr34ck> what are you looking for ?
[01:14] <euan> Thanks kenthomson, I'll try that.
[01:14] <crimsun> phr34ck, the very last (bottom) line
[01:15] <J-_> euan: Did you turn on your computer before you plugged your monitor in? Same thing happened, I didn't have my monitor plugged in and I turned on computer, and the re. was low with no option to make bigger, so I restarted and it worked like normal. I had xubuntu installed on a dapper LAMP server.
[01:15] <kenthomson> euan, after that restart X by pressing "ctrl-alt-backspace" or simple reboot the computer
[01:15] <phr34ck> GCC version 4.0.3
[01:15] <crimsun> phr34ck, are you using dapper?
[01:16] <kenthomson> J-_, nice insight :)
[01:16] <koyo001> ok problem
[01:17] <J-_> Hope that works, heh.
[01:17] <koyo001> trying to run from the terminal window command make
[01:17] <phr34ck> crimsun,  yes
[01:17] <koyo001> doent work
[01:17] <J-_> koyo001: do you have build essentials installed?
[01:17] <crimsun> phr34ck, and can't dist-upgrade to edgy?
[01:18] <koyo001> tells me command not found
[01:18] <kane77> koyo001, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:18] <kenthomson> koyo001, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[01:18] <phr34ck> crimsun,  what ?
[01:18] <kenthomson> kane77, :)
[01:18] <crimsun> phr34ck, dapper doesn't have 4.1.1, but edgy does.
[01:18] <kane77> kenthomson, hh
[01:18] <J-_> whoops, no 's' =D
[01:18] <koyo001> ok will try that
[01:18] <kane77> kenthomson, funny :D
[01:18] <LinTux> how do I install the XFCE desktop in terminal
[01:18] <phr34ck> crimsun,  it's available on their website.
[01:18] <Gosha> !svn
[01:18] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[01:19] <phr34ck> Why I cannot use it ?
[01:19] <kane77> koyo001, and sometimes you need to run ./configure
[01:19] <crimsun> phr34ck, I'm not talking about upstream; I'm talking about Ubuntu.
[01:19] <kane77> LinTux, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:19] <phr34ck> crimsun,  I have no idea what you're talking about man.
[01:19] <koyo001> configure hyeon
[01:19] <koyo001> ???
[01:20] <crimsun> phr34ck, obviously if you want to bootstrap gcc 4.1.1, you're free to do so. Just make sure your toolchain's configured properly first, which means you need a working compiler, binutils, and l-k-h
[01:20] <kane77> koyo001, what are you trying to install?
[01:20] <crimsun> phr34ck, if your compiler doesn't work, --reinstall gcc and cpp
[01:20] <koyo001> ndiswrapper
[01:21] <LinTux> kane77: many thanks m8, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!
[01:21] <koyo001> need to run a windows driver
[01:21] <crimsun> phr34ck, and make very sure that the toolchain components are properly installed (binutils, gcc, libc6-dev, linux-kernel-headers)
[01:21] <J-_> eww
[01:21] <phr34ck> crimsun,  since gcc 4.0.3 is installed .. how can I write C++ program.
[01:21] <phr34ck> crimsun,  I think I have them.
[01:21] <kane77> LinTux, happy new year to you too... youre welcome...
[01:21] <phr34ck> The thing is that everything is soo messed up now. I'm totally new and installing packages here and there.
[01:21] <crimsun> phr34ck, you don't need gcc-4.1.1 to write C++ programs
[01:21] <phr34ck> no idea what I'm doing.
[01:22] <kane77> koyo001, isn't ndiswrapper available from repositories via apt-get??
[01:22] <crimsun> phr34ck, all you needed to compile C++ programs is 'build-essential'
[01:22] <phr34ck> how can I organise my packages.
[01:22] <phr34ck> ?
[01:22] <koyo001> humm not sure
[01:22] <crimsun> phr34ck, what in the world are you attempting to do?
[01:22] <cybercod> koyo      read  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.29
[01:22] <koyo001> i used gz
[01:22] <Menisk> How can I install only the base system of 6.06?
[01:23] <Menisk> I don't have the alternate install.
[01:23] <phr34ck> crimsun,  I'm getting familiar with Linux ;p
[01:23] <phr34ck> hey, I just ran ./configure and it worked.
[01:23] <phr34ck> What's next ?
[01:23] <koyo001> thanks cybercod
[01:23] <kenthomson> !shockwave
[01:23] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[01:23] <koyo001> still with the same problem
[01:23] <crimsun> phr34ck, you still haven't stated what you're attempting to do...
[01:23] <kenthomson> Anyone having SHOCKWAVE running under wine on Ubuntu? I got some problems
[01:23] <cybercod> koyo.. describe... i think i missed it
[01:23] <kane77> koyo001, I'm not sure... there is ndisgtk, a gtk frontend... you might try to install that (sudo apt-get install ndisgtk)
[01:24] <phr34ck> I wanted to have a decent C++ compiler. So I downloaded gcc and I'm here to see how to install it. I had no idea that there is a built in compiler
[01:24] <kane77> brb
[01:24] <cybercod> there are dependent packages with the ndis packages... are you installing from synaptic?
[01:24] <crimsun> phr34ck, the C++ compiler is g++
[01:25] <phr34ck> yeah, I figured ..
[01:25] <phr34ck> So now I ran the configure script succefully, now what?
[01:25] <Menisk> How can I install only the base system of 6.06?
[01:25] <Menisk>  I don't have the alternate install.
[01:25] <phr34ck> How do I make gcc 4.1.1 work ??
[01:25] <cybercod> Menisk.  base system?  normal install?
[01:26] <phr34ck> meh, gcc is ?
[01:26] <crimsun> phr34ck, you -already- have a working C++ compiler installed
[01:26] <kenthomson> !alternate
[01:26] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:26] <crimsun> gcc is the C compiler
[01:26] <phr34ck> crimsun,  okay how to I work with it?
[01:26] <phr34ck> where is it ?
[01:26] <kakalto> I boot ubuntu in CLI-only, and the screensaver (blank screen) goes on every 10 minutes or so, how can I either change the time for this, or turn it off?
[01:26] <crimsun> phr34ck, g++
[01:26] <Menisk> cybercod, I only want the base system for a server, no window manager etc.
[01:27] <kenthomson> kakalto, there is some command to kill the gnome-screensaver
[01:27] <crimsun> Menisk, install ubuntu-minimal
[01:27] <phr34ck> kool
[01:27] <phr34ck> is it a high end compiler?
[01:27] <phr34ck> or just a "built in" one ?
[01:27] <kakalto> kenthomson: does gnome-screensaver even run when there's no X?
[01:27] <crimsun> phr34ck, what do you mean by "high end"?
[01:28] <Siv0x> !nvidia
[01:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:28] <kenthomson> kakakoka, interesting question, without x there is no GNOME without GNOME there is no gnome-screensaver, so what you are seeing is not the screen-saver unless it is running in backgroun
[01:28] <kitsune1> hi all
[01:28] <Menisk> crimsun, How do I do that from the live CD, or do I need alternate install?
[01:28] <kitsune1> happy new year !
[01:28] <crimsun> phr34ck, it's part of all Ubuntu installs
[01:28] <phr34ck> crimsun,  I mean a very decent C++ compiler
[01:28] <kenthomson> kakakoka, in the text-mode try alt-ctrl-f7, and see whether you go to a X-login session, if yes, than X is running in background
[01:29] <crimsun> phr34ck, GCC is very good
[01:29] <nn>           collisions:23034 txqueuelen:1000
[01:29] <crimsun> phr34ck, it's not shoddy software if that's what you're asking
[01:29] <kenthomson> kakakoka, if yes can kill x by "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[01:29] <nn> Anyone got an rt2500 doing that too?
[01:29] <kitsune1> can anyone help me?
[01:29] <phr34ck> crimsun,  but you said that GCC is not a C++ compiler?
[01:29] <crimsun> Menasim1, it's part of all Ubuntu installs
[01:29] <phr34ck> g++ is the same as gcc ?
[01:29] <nn> phr34ck: g++ is
[01:29] <DarthLappy> kitsune1: With?
[01:29] <kenthomson> !ask | kitsune1
[01:29] <ubotu> kitsune1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:29] <nn> phr34ck: g++ is a part of gcc
[01:29] <kakalto> kenthomson: do you even know what CLI means?
[01:29] <crimsun> phr34ck, no, gcc != g++ just as C != C++
[01:29] <kakalto> I run ubuntu-minimal
[01:29] <phr34ck> umm
[01:29] <nn> phr34ck: GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection
[01:29] <kenthomson> kakakoka, ofcourse
[01:30] <phr34ck> I see, so I downloaded the hole package, not just the C++ compiler.
[01:30] <kitsune1> well i took a pic ture of wat happens when i run ubuntu can u please ahve a look at it
[01:30] <kenthomson> kitsune1, link it
[01:30] <phr34ck> that's good, since I'm going to be using Java as well.
[01:30] <nn> If g++ is installed, the gcc frontend will invoke 'g++' on .cc, .cpp, and .c++ files
[01:30] <kakalto> kenthomson: then why are you telling me how to kill gnomescreensaver (I assume runs on X), and how to kill X... when I don't run X?
[01:30] <phr34ck> How can I take advantage of it >?
[01:30] <kitsune1> 1 sec ill upload
[01:30] <nn> phr34ck: that's gcj
[01:30] <phr34ck> it's not included in the GCC ?
[01:30] <kenthomson> kakakoka, but you are telling me that a screen save is running in the background
[01:30] <SubMOA> hello! What does "<3" mean?
[01:30] <nn> phr34ck: it's part of gcc, but a seperate package
[01:30] <nn> SubMOA: <3
[01:30] <kenthomson> kakakoka, if there is a screensaver running than X is definitely running the background
[01:31] <nn> SubMOA: a heart
[01:31] <phr34ck> I see.
[01:31] <cybercod> kakalto... can you find the process ID?
[01:31] <kakalto> kenthomson: I don't run X!
[01:31] <SubMOA> say what?
[01:31] <SubMOA> :O)
[01:31] <kenthomson> kakakoka, If not, than you shouldn't HAVE A SCREENSAVER!!!
[01:31] <nn> SubMOA: < is an HTML entity for the character '<' (less than)
[01:31] <phr34ck> woohoo, I just made my first C++ on Ubuntu ...
[01:31] <nn> SubMOA: so <3 is <3 in HTML :)
[01:31] <kenthomson> phr34ck, way to go!
[01:31] <SubMOA> nn oOo, thank you so much.  Wow, you rock!
[01:31] <phr34ck> Why do I have to write this : ./testing ? why not just testing ?
[01:31] <nn> SubMOA: :)
[01:31] <nn> phr34ck: it's a safety feature
[01:32] <kenthomson> Goodbye all! and have a nice day! HAPPY UBUNT-ing :)
[01:32] <phr34ck> nn, what does it mean ?
[01:32] <SubMOA> is ASCII an "entity" for text?
[01:32] <DarthLappy> phr34ck: "testing" will try and execute it from $PATh
[01:32] <kakalto> kenthomson: it's not a conventional screensaver... the screen blanks after 10 minutes or so. This is the "screensaver" I wish to either change the time for, or remove completely.
[01:32] <nn> phr34ck: ./whatever means run 'whatever' from the current directory (.)
[01:32] <koyo001> helo
[01:32] <phr34ck> nn,  I see.
[01:32] <cybercod> oh... thats power management then kakalto... i think
[01:32] <kakalto> cybercod: I'm not sure what the program is exactly, so I don't know how to find the pid
[01:32] <kitsune1> ok
[01:32] <kitsune1> heres one
[01:32] <kitsune1> http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00184xw2.jpg
[01:32] <nn> phr34ck: if you have '.' in your $PATH (DANGEROUS) someone could put a nasty program in the directory (which could compromise your machine)
[01:32] <phr34ck> Can't I use the GCC that I downloaded? It was a waste of time ...
[01:32] <kitsune1> and another
[01:32] <kitsune1> http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00186ly1.jpg
[01:32] <nn> phr34ck: and it would be ran instead of the program you want
[01:33] <nn> SubMOA: no
[01:33] <phr34ck> nn,  thanks.
[01:33] <nn> SubMOA: since < and > are part of HTML markup, they can't be directly used
[01:33] <n1gke> Good morning everyone.
[01:33] <phr34ck> These are Linux in general, and not just Ubuntu, yes >?
[01:33] <nn> SubMOA: instead < and > (and several others) exist for this purpose
[01:33] <nn> phr34ck: yes.
[01:33] <nn> phr34ck: it's a safety feature
[01:33] <SubMOA> ohh, I understand!
[01:33] <SubMOA> thank you!
[01:34] <kenthomson_> a
[01:34] <phr34ck> where I can find Java interpreter ?
[01:34] <nn> phr34ck: so that if you really want to run something from the current directory, you have to knowingly do so by say './whatever' (run whatever from current directory (.)
[01:34] <nn> SubMOA: np
[01:34] <kenthomson_> !java | phr34ck
[01:34] <ubotu> phr34ck: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:34] <phr34ck> nn,  I understand mate.
[01:35] <nn> phr34ck: you probably want jre, unless doing java development, then jdk might be better bet for you
[01:35] <kakalto> so, does anyone know how to stop the screen blanking after 10 minutes or so on ubuntu-minimal, in CLI-only, no X?
[01:35] <phr34ck> I need jdk, yes
[01:35] <nn> kakalto: that's APM
[01:35] <phr34ck> JDK requires JRE anyway
[01:35] <cybercod> kakalto.. hold a moment.. i think i got something
[01:35] <cybercod> reading
[01:35] <nn> mount -o remount,rw /
[01:35] <phr34ck> but I do java programs, so I need the development kit.
[01:35] <nn> oops
[01:35] <kakalto> nn: ahk, cool... any ideas how to mess with it?
[01:35] <koyo001> ok
[01:35] <kakalto> cybercod: thanks, sounds good
[01:35] <koyo001> cant install ndiswrapper
[01:36] <koyo001> not working
[01:36] <nn> kakalto: edit /etc/console-tools/config
[01:36] <koyo001> trying real hard here
[01:36] <nn> kakalto: find 'BLANK_TIME'
[01:36] <koyo001> nothing working
[01:36] <kitsune1> kenthomson : u know whats wrong with it?
[01:37] <kakalto> nn: thanks very much for your help :
[01:37] <kakalto> *   :-)
[01:37] <php-freak> can someone tell me how i can download all ftp files from clie?
[01:37] <php-freak> from my server
[01:37] <nn> COMMITed 74819904 rows, 0 errors, 58 SLOW, 7 optimize misses
[01:37] <nn> hrmm
[01:37] <php-freak> i tried wget, but it only downloads like 3 files, then quites
[01:37] <casemods> does anyone speak python?
[01:37] <kakalto> cybercod: nn pointed out the file to edit, thanks
[01:37] <nn> 74 million rows? :)
[01:37] <casemods> i have a little problem
[01:37] <nn> php-freak: wget -c -m -np ftp://your-url
[01:38] <kakalto> kenthomson_: thankyou for being the most ignorant person I found on this channel.
[01:38] <php-freak> whats the -c -np mean?
[01:38] <cybercod> cool... i wasn't even close
[01:38] <php-freak> what about -r?
[01:38] <jmspeex> Is there any way (using Edgy) to tell beagle to stop filling my home directory with gigabytes worth of logs?
[01:38] <nn> php-freak: -c is continue, you can really ommit it, -np means don't go up the directory tree, only down
[01:38] <php-freak> only downloaded like 3 files, then quit
[01:38] <cybercod> i was looking at "acpi -h"
[01:39] <php-freak> it only downloaded a index.html file, and nothing else????????????????
[01:39] <php-freak> any one here know how to donwload ftp files cli?
[01:39] <php-freak> any one here know how to donwload ftp files cli?
[01:39] <kitsune1> can anyone please tell me why i get this on my monitor
[01:39] <kitsune1> http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00184xw2.jpg
[01:39] <kitsune1> http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00186ly1.jpg
[01:39] <nn>      Thermal 1: ok, 105.8 degrees F
[01:40] <nn> php-freak: did you put ftp:// on the url?
[01:40] <php-freak> well duh
[01:40] <php-freak>  wget -R -C -M -NP ftp://test:test@url.com:21
[01:40] <php-freak> i trried that
[01:40] <nn> why caps?
[01:41] <nn> -m -np
[01:41] <php-freak> wget -R ftp://blah:blah@blah.com:21
[01:41] <php-freak> I tried small caps too
[01:41] <nn> php-freak: just -m -np should be fine
[01:41] <php-freak> I tried wget -R -c -m -np
[01:41] <php-freak> done tried it
[01:41] <php-freak> but ill try it again
[01:41] <nn> if not, your ftp sever is on crack, MS FTP by chance?
[01:41] <nn> php-freak: Don't put the -r
[01:42] <php-freak> for crying out loud its download this time
[01:42] <php-freak> hehe
[01:42] <php-freak> i need to read a book no this stuff
[01:42] <slacker_nl> hello
[01:42] <php-freak> whats the -m -np mean again?
[01:42] <slacker_nl> !mount
[01:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:42] <cybercod> kitsune1 ... i'm thinking incompatible graphics driver
[01:42] <DarthLappy> php-freak: man wget :D
[01:42] <nn> -m is mirror, it makes a nice directory tree and gets all files, -np prevents going back up the directory tree
[01:42] <slacker_nl> !diskmounter
[01:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:43] <slacker_nl> !fstab
[01:43] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system.  You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:48] <unfun> How do I change from gnome to KDE ?
[01:48] <Sumit> Hi, wats happening room
[01:48] <cybercod> install package "kubuntu-desktop" in synaptic
[01:48] <HymnToLife> unfun, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:48] <Sumit> can someone help me with Bluetoothing
[01:48] <cybercod> then select kde session before logging in
[01:49] <kenthomson_> !nvidia
[01:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <vanberge> so... what is the key to enable syntax highligting in vi ?
[01:50] <fotoflo_> Hey All, Ive got a FAT32 partition mounted on my ubuntu system, but its read only - how do i make it read-write?
[01:50] <Sumit> like how can I pair with my fone, or search for services on it, or just transfer files to it??
[01:50] <slacker_nl> set vanberge echo "syntax enable" >> ~/.vimrc
[01:50] <kitsune1> yes
[01:50] <jean-no> bonne anne 2007
[01:50] <slacker_nl> s/set //
[01:50] <cybercod> fotoflo    sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:50] <HymnToLife> !gksudo | cybercod
[01:50] <ubotu> cybercod: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[01:50] <Rookie-> syntax on
[01:50] <cybercod> fotoflo   find entry for fat32 partition... change -ro to -rw
[01:51] <vanberge> slacker_nl,  well, if i editedt /etc/vim/vimrc and uncommented taht line shouldn't that do the trick?
[01:51] <fotoflo_> err there is no entry
[01:51] <kitsune1> ok but how can i change it beacuse i can see any thing
[01:51] <fotoflo_> i mounted it manually
[01:51] <kenthomson_> Has anyone run SHOCKWAVE through WINE, under Ubuntu? I need some help.
[01:51] <slacker_nl> vanberge: believe so, its the globale vimrc
[01:51] <fotoflo_> haven't rebooted yet...
[01:51] <nn> anyone got a fine t
[01:51] <kitsune1> and my mouse properly
[01:51] <fildo> !fonts
[01:51] <slacker_nl> so thats for every user
[01:51] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:51] <nn> anyone got a fine tip soldering iron? :)
[01:51] <NineTeen67Come1> Grrr . anyone have a good simple e-mail server setup how to? (All the ones I can find are super secure -that's fine, but I want it working then I'll lock it down-) ..
[01:51] <fotoflo_> how do i had it to my fstab?
[01:51] <siv0x> !java > siv0x
[01:51] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: i run postfix
[01:51] <vanberge> slacker_nl, well, i did that, but no syntax highlighting...  :-(
[01:52] <cybercod> wait a moment foto.. i'll find you a link
[01:52] <fotofo> k cool
[01:52] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: postfix .. that sends the mail for you? (smtp) ..
[01:52] <vanberge> slacker_nl, better yet... i try to 'vim filename.php' and i get  "syntax on, this command is not valid'
[01:52] <kenthomson> Can someone help me setup SHOCKWAVE?
[01:52] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: It can be configured in many roles, local only, full internet site, etc
[01:52] <kitsune1> cybercod : what should i do coz i cant move the mouse very gd, how can i change the drivers, at the moment me using windows
[01:52] <NineTeen67Come1> nn:  I tried to follow this how-to and my gawed . it got ugly .. http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[01:52] <cybercod> foto http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite
[01:52] <slacker_nl> vanberge: in the /etc/vim/vimrc its callesd syntax on
[01:53] <kenthomson> no-one? :(
[01:53] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: I just need to mainly send mail out to people that want to register, have server questions and the like.. if need be I can write them back on my regular e-mail ..
[01:53] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: my postfix configs have always been quick and easy
[01:53] <fotofo> checking it out
[01:53] <fotofo> thanks
[01:53] <slacker_nl> vanberge: grep -i syntax /etc/vim/vimrc , you will see the line you need to change
[01:53] <cybercod> kitsume1 what is your graphics card?
[01:54] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: can I just aptitude install postfix .. and start there? ..  I don't know really which to select .. it's a web server .. so internet I assume?
[01:54] <cybercod> no problem
[01:54] <nn> you're an Internet host
[01:54] <kitsune1> cybercod : the screens i sent is from 6.06, when i try and run 6.10 it goes into a black screen and says video video not avalible
[01:54] <kitsune1> cybercod :  its a nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt 256mb
[01:54] <NineTeen67Come1> nn:  it is a web server ..
[01:54] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: yea, and it'll be getting incoming mail, correct?
[01:54] <fotofo> cybercod, errr its not loading
[01:55] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: Incomming would be a bonus .. sending is important because plone sends them their passwd ..
[01:55] <cybercod> kitsume .. you're on a different pc right?
[01:55] <fotofo> that earthquake in taiwan is really starting to piss me off
[01:55] <kenthomson> I am running AMD Athlon 2600 XP+, should i install kernel linux-image-386?
[01:55] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: Then pick internet host, follow the settings. all done
[01:55] <kitsune1> cybercod : no same pc in windows
[01:55] <cybercod> foto.. one moment
[01:55] <nn> fotofo: you? My cheap hw source is on hold
[01:55] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: I'll give 'er a try .. thanks for the confidance booster .. heheheh
[01:55] <nn> fotofo: meaning im having to wait for my damn 5$ mobos and CPUs
[01:56] <nn> which puts my projects on hold bc ya. i'm poor :)
[01:56] <cybercod> foto... try  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy then find FAT on the page
[01:56] <cbx33> hi all
[01:56] <fotofo> nn: well at least you have usable internet
[01:56] <kitsune1> ?
[01:56] <cybercod> Kitsume... what is your graphics card?  did i miss you saying ?
[01:56] <fotofo> nn: i can buy for you in beijing and fedex if you need it NOW :-)
[01:56] <vanberge> slacker_nl, it is not working.  i see the line and i un-commented it... but i get no syntax color
[01:57] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: shoot .. looks like it's already installed .. by chance you know how to re-institute the settings? ..
[01:57] <vanberge> slacker_nl, do i have to run something other than vim?
[01:57] <kitsune1> cybercod :  ol yes its a nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt 256mb
[01:57] <vanberge> when i uncomment taht line it says syntax on is not a valid command
[01:57] <fotofo> i got a NIC and a soundboard yesterday for $7
[01:57] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[01:57] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: awesome thanks .. I always forget avout dpkg-stuff ..
[01:57] <cybercod> Kitsume... one moment... I shall look
[01:57] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: :)
[01:58] <kitsune1> thanks alot
[01:58] <kitsune1> :)
[01:58] <slacker_nl> vanberge: hold on letme give it a try
[01:59] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: it only gives me No config / Internet Site / Internet with smarthost / Satellite system and local only .. internet site?
[01:59] <gnufied> I am having trouble configuring my Nvidia 6200 TurboCache GPU and LCD monitor.
[01:59] <gnufied> trouble is, i don't have horizontal and vertical sync rates range of my monitor
[01:59] <slacker_nl> vanberge: works for me...
[01:59] <slacker_nl> vanberge: could you put your /etc/vim/vimrc in a pastebin (/topic)
[02:00] <NineTeen67Come1> gnufied: you should be able to find them via google .. I found them for my "Green House" brand monitor .. (purchased here in Japan so I couldn't read the manual) ..
[02:00] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: internet site
[02:00] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: rodger .. thank you ..
[02:00] <fotofo> cybercod, how do i refresh my fstab to test if it worked?
[02:00] <vanberge> slacker_nl, yeah hold on just a sec
[02:01] <nn> fotofo: if it's already mounted, mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint
[02:01] <nn> fotofo: else mount -a
[02:01] <fotofo> nn: whats the rw?
[02:01] <nn> fotofo: read-write
[02:01] <fotofo> err nevermind
[02:01] <fotofo> der
[02:01] <fotofo> sorry
[02:02] <nn> it's 0800 (at least EST) understandable
[02:02] <nn> i'm on my second week awake :)
[02:02] <nn> i'd hardly count the brief naps i've taken in the last 10 days as sleep
[02:02] <drbreen> is there an ubuntu DEB package for OLPC sugar interface ?
[02:02] <nn> but much code must be done
[02:02] <cybercod> foto you can just reboot
[02:02] <nn> drbreen: apt-cache search olp|sort|less
[02:02] <vanberge> slacker_nl,   http://pastebin.com/848910
[02:02] <nn> cybercod: eww
[02:02] <fotofo> its 9:00 pm BST
[02:02] <vanberge> slacker_nl, ty for looking at this with me
[02:03] <nn> cybercod: Please do not use that word in my presence
[02:03] <drbreen> nn: of course there is nothing official
[02:03] <drbreen> nn: i can use apt-cache -_-
[02:03] <nn> drbreen: sorry, no idea, asked google?
[02:03] <drbreen> nn: points me only to source ?
[02:03] <nn> drbreen: no, it gives names of packages available
[02:03] <cybercod> kitsume... it looks like you'll need to install a graphics drivers for your card.
[02:03] <nn> drbreen: you can use apt-cache show packagename to see more info on a pacakge
[02:04] <cybercod> nn... i'm no god here... i'm pretty new myself... i came in here to ask a question and have been in here several hours answering others as best as i can
[02:04] <slacker_nl> vanberge: *click*
[02:04] <fotofo> nn: fotoflo@fotoflo-desktop:/dev$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1
[02:04] <fotofo> mount: /media/windows not mounted already, or bad option
[02:05] <fotofo> its already mounted
[02:05] <drbreen> nn: i am searching for "olpc sugar deb download ubuntu" and get no useful results
[02:05] <nn> fotofo: did you use -o remount,rw ?
[02:05] <drbreen> nn: what have you searched for ?
[02:05] <nn> ahh strange
[02:05] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: I'm really sorry to bug you .. but do you know a good how-to on "using" postfix? It's all hooked up and I think I got everything entered correctly (a couple things didn't look familiar but I think I'll know the error when I see it) ..
[02:05] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: http://www.tldp.org should have something good, probably in the mini-howto's
[02:05] <slacker_nl> vanberge: looks good to me
[02:05] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: and it's quite alright
[02:05] <fotofo> fotoflo@fotoflo-desktop:/dev$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1
[02:06] <HymnToLife> NineTeen67Come1, there is one in the howtos section in the !forums
[02:06] <NineTeen67Come1> nn: thanks much ..
[02:06] <kenthomson> I used open-source "nv" drivers and got 800x600 @ 85HZ, and when i switched to "nvidia" drivers i am getting 800x600 only at 85HZ, can someone please help? I have edited /etcX11/xorg.conf and put in the correct vertical/horizontal refresh rates of my monitor in the appropriate section, what else do i need to do to get 800x600@85hz, with proprietary-nvidia drivers?
[02:06] <NineTeen67Come1> you too HymnToLife ..
[02:06] <fotofo> nn: yeah
[02:06] <kitsune1> cybercod : ok but how can i do this because i need to navigate in linux and stuff but i cant coz of the screen and the mouse stops moving after couple of minutes
[02:06] <kenthomson> *now i am getting 800x600 only at 75hz
[02:06] <nn> fotofo: ahh not mounted already?
[02:07] <slacker_nl> vanberge: could you open a file (.pl, .zsh, .sh, anything that needs syntax highlighting)
[02:07] <cybercod> you'll need to find and print the instructions for doing it in the command line... and you can press Ctrl+alt+F5 to get command line access
[02:07] <fotofo> mounted
[02:07] <fotofo> listening to an MP3 from it
[02:08] <fotofo> nn: i think i need to put "vfat" in there,
[02:08] <cybercod> glad to hear it fotofo
[02:08] <fotofo> not sure of the syntax
[02:08] <fotofo> cybercod, but i cant write to the disk
[02:08] <kitsune1> ok i have no got ubuntu install its the live cd i trying to run first so i can install it
[02:08] <cybercod> kitsume  you'll need to find and print the instructions for doing it in the command line... and you can press Ctrl+alt+F5 to get command line access
[02:08] <vanberge> slacker_nl, yes
[02:08] <slacker_nl> fotofo: vfat is correct
[02:09] <fotofo> slacker_nl, reading man... where's it go?
[02:09] <kitsune1> were do i put the drivers so then i can access them
[02:09] <vanberge> slacker_nl, i have a php file open
[02:09] <nn> fotofo: /dev/whatever /media/windows vfat auto 0 0
[02:09] <nn> or similar
[02:09] <cybercod> thats one I don't know... I'd try to get hands on alternate disk, does anyone know a way to install from command line on live CD?
[02:09] <slacker_nl> vanberge: in vi, now do :set syntax
[02:09] <gnufied> NineTeen67Come1: I have the manual. its a viewsonic monitor, but bloddy they haven't given sync rates.
[02:09] <slacker_nl> fotofo: what nn says
[02:09] <nn> crazy but i remember all these things off the top of my head :P
[02:10] <vanberge> slacker_nl, E519:  Option not supported: syntax
[02:10] <slacker_nl> fotofo: or dou it manually: mount -t vfat /dev/device /mount/point
[02:10] <fotofo> sudo mount -o remount, rw /dev/hda1    where's the vfat go?
[02:10] <NineTeen67Come1> gnufied: hum .. usually back in the back there are specs .. not only physical dimention, but input voltages, etc etc ..
[02:10] <nn> then again, i've been using linux for almost 10 years, *nix for hmm 13
[02:10] <slacker_nl> vanberge: are you using vim or vi?
[02:10] <kitsune1> cybercod : which drivers should i try
[02:10] <peija-kas> GMail Hacked: Visit ANY Website, and Your Whole Contact List Can be Stolen  http://epodaeta.notlong.com/  Works in Firefox, Opera, and IE. This link does not link directly to the exploit for obvious reasons.
[02:10] <nn> fotofo: no space between the ,rw
[02:11] <fotofo> nn: only worked with the space
[02:11] <nn> fotofo: thats incorrect then
[02:11] <nn> fotofo: if unmounted, mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[02:11] <slacker_nl> vanberge: :set syntax in vim should return syntax=php
[02:12] <nn> mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 (or /media/windows) would turn on writing (and remount,ro turn it off)
[02:12] <nn> i do this on my /etc :)
[02:12] <cybercod> I'd give the proprietary Nvidia drivers a try
[02:12] <nn> i boot up everything but /home is read-only (/tmp, /var/{lock,log,run} are all ram drives)
[02:12] <nn> but i run off a thumbdrive too..
[02:13] <fotofo> nn, that didnt work
[02:13] <SubMOA> how would you register a password with IRC?
[02:13] <kitsune1> ok when i get them were do i put them on so when i put in live cd then open the command line,, how whould i access the driver?
[02:13] <fotofo> not mounted or bad option
[02:13] <fotofo> but it is mounted
[02:13] <vanberge> slacker_nl, i thought they were one in the same?  i am typing vi from command line
[02:13] <HymnToLife> SubMOA, depends on the network
[02:13] <fotofo> so it must be a bad option
[02:14] <kitsune1> sry for so many questions
[02:14] <slacker_nl> vanberge: type: which vi
[02:14] <cybercod> its ok... i ask my share....
[02:14] <nn> slacker_nl: /msg nickserv help
[02:14] <nn> fotofo: strange.. ;\
[02:14] <fotofo> ill just reboot
[02:14] <fotofo> i tried unmount -f and got problems too
[02:14] <cybercod> i'm just trying to give back a little bit
[02:14] <fotofo> drive in use
[02:14] <fotofo> closed the mp3's still problems
[02:15] <slacker_nl> nn?
[02:15] <fotofo> ntn
[02:15] <nn> slacker_nl: yes?
[02:15] <mmzin> people, im using cedega and i install the Steam, normal, when i open it the steam runs but dont apper the icon in the Task bar
[02:15] <fotofo> s/ntn/brb
 slacker_nl: /msg nickserv help <-- ??
[02:15] <nn> slacker_nl: wrong tab, sorry
[02:15] <slacker_nl> ahh, ok
[02:15] <nn> SubMOA: /msg nickserv help
[02:15] <vanberge> slacker_nl, /usr/bin/vi
[02:16] <SubMOA> htmntolife, thanks!
[02:16] <slacker_nl> vanberge: ls -altr /usr/bin/vi , what does that give you?
[02:16] <SubMOA> nn, thanks!
[02:16] <nn> SubMOA: yea, np
[02:16] <phr34ck> !APT
[02:16] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:16] <mmzin> people, im using cedega and i install the Steam, normal, when i open it the steam runs but dont apper the icon in the Task bar
[02:17] <phr34ck> !Synaptic
[02:17] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:17] <vanberge> slacker_nl,  /usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi
[02:17] <vanberge> slacker_nl, should i symlink vi to vim?
[02:18] <slacker_nl> vanberge: ls -altr /etc/alternatives/vi this should be a symlink to /usr/bin/vim
[02:18] <slacker_nl> vanberge: do you have that?
[02:18] <cybercod> mmzin... i'm thinking...
[02:19] <kenthomson> i installed firefox through WINE, and close it, now how do i find Windows version of firefox on my FS and run it again through WINE?
[02:19] <lardarse> slacker_nl: fow do you tell that a symlink is a symlink ?
[02:19] <vanberge> slacker_nl, no...     /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny
[02:19] <lardarse> how*
[02:19] <basvg> hi all.. I just fiddled with banshee some more. when I run 'ipod --list' then my ipod shows up nicely... but when I fire up banshee (0.11.1) then nuthin' ..
[02:19] <slacker_nl> mmm
[02:19] <slacker_nl> lardarse: if you see this: /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim
[02:19] <cybercod> should be ~/.wine/c_drive/program files/.......
[02:20] <kenthomson> cybercod, let me try
[02:20] <mmzin> cybercod, i have to install steam on the same partition that linux are, right
[02:20] <slacker_nl> lardarse: that tells me /etc/alternatives/vi points to /usr/bin/vim
[02:20] <lardarse> slacker_nl: which command... ls -altr ?
[02:20] <slacker_nl> lardarse: yeah, ls -l will also do it :)
[02:20] <lardarse> ok
[02:20] <cybercod> mmzini don't have world of warcraft installed on same partition
[02:20] <cybercod> and it still works
[02:21] <slacker_nl> vanberge: ok... I think vim.tiny shoudl also support syntax highlighting
[02:21] <slacker_nl> vanberge: any reason to use vim.tiny?
[02:21] <mmzin> when i kill
[02:21] <cybercod> mmzin.. is there a preset for Steam?
[02:21] <mmzin> steam
[02:21] <lardarse> slacker_nl: aah, useful. thanks
[02:21] <mmzin> dont show in system monitor anymore
[02:21] <slacker_nl> vanberge: otherwise remove vim.tiny and install vim regular
[02:22] <kenthomson> cybercod, what do i do? "wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\firefox.exe": Module not found
[02:22] <kenthomson> "
[02:22] <slacker_nl> lardarse: yw
[02:22] <vanberge> slacker_nl, i have no reasons... im just on a default ubuntu install
[02:22] <cybercod> kenthomson... put it in quotes... it can't handle the space in "Program Files"
[02:22] <nn> vim is yucky :)
[02:22] <slacker_nl> tssk ;)
[02:22] <nn> Ok dudes and chicks and others..
[02:22] <slacker_nl> its not :)
[02:23] <nn> If i was helping you and you have more questions, ask them now or hold your peace at least until i awaken
[02:23] <cybercod> mmzin... it wouldn't show up as steam.. it would show up as wine or cedega
[02:23] <nn> the sun is rising, ie it's time to retreat into the coffin for a few hours
[02:23] <vanberge> slacker_nl, psh... sudo apt-get install vim fixed it
[02:24] <slacker_nl> vanberge: hehe, kewl :)
[02:24] <archie> hi can someone cud mail me original source list
[02:24] <slacker_nl> so vim.tiny does not support syntax highlighting..
[02:24] <vanberge> slacker_nl, ty for helping me.
[02:24] <slacker_nl> vanberge: yw and enjoy vim :)
[02:25] <mmzin> cybercod, hmm right, i think that can be a incompatibility of gnome with steam to not apper in the tray
[02:25] <mmzin> cybercod, steam makes all the updates but when finished, he dissapear
[02:26] <mamzers555> can somebody tell me, what extension i have to install to get a menu in nautilus that give me the option to encrypt files with gpg?
[02:26] <archie> can somebody sent me original software source list ?
[02:27] <MuffY> kenthomson =)
[02:28] <kenthomson> MuffY, You got my instructions yesterday? or did your client quit? :(
[02:28] <MuffY> sorry i quit yesterday, closed the laptop makes it go to sleep mode
[02:28] <MuffY> i forgot :p
[02:28] <MuffY> so i didn't get them
[02:28] <MuffY> let me check if this laptop keeps logs
[02:28] <archie> can somebody sent me original software source list ?
[02:29] <lardarse> ok.. does anyone here know where the best place to look is for info about Joysticks in Ubuntu ?
[02:29] <slacker_nl> archie: i have a sources.list for edgy available..
[02:29] <slacker_nl> archie: www.euronet.nl/users/wesleys/sources.list
[02:29] <hexidigital> archie::  what distro?
[02:29] <archie> edgy
[02:29] <hexidigital> archie::  oh.. sorry
[02:29] <MuffY> kenthomson: i reinstalled ubuntu (killed all partitions and remade them), i only installed ubuntu this time
[02:29] <MuffY> kenthomson: same problem again, black screen
[02:30] <archie> ty slacker
[02:30] <kenthomson> MuffY, yuck!
[02:30] <MuffY> kenthomson: indeed =(
[02:30] <kenthomson> MuffY, Did you try ctrl-alt-f1 at that black screen?
[02:30] <MuffY> yes
[02:30] <kenthomson> MuffY, Doesn't  work?
[02:30] <NineTeen67Come1> thanks much nn .. it's running, now I gotta figure out how to get it sending correctly .. (it times out right now .. my isp might be stomping on it) .. have good night .
[02:30] <MuffY> kenthomson, no
[02:30] <mmzin> cybercod, i think i fix it
[02:30] <kenthomson> MuffY, what are you going to do now?
[02:30] <kenthomson> :)
[02:31] <nn> NineTeen67Come1: enjoy!
[02:31] <archie> slacker it breezy list
[02:31] <MuffY> kenthomson, i really think it has something to do with my graphics card (though i have no arguments/knowledge to back this up)
[02:31] <kenthomson> MuffY, pop-in the ubuntu live CD and lets do some troubleshooting! :)
[02:31] <MuffY> i don;t know
[02:31] <hexidigital> MuffY::  that happens to me... i had to download the alternative .iso, and install from there... also, Kubuntu installed no problem w/ my system, so i think it's a gnome thing
[02:31] <archie> oops sorry :)
[02:31] <slacker_nl> archie: yw
[02:31] <slacker_nl> archie: no its not ;)
[02:31] <kenthomson> MuffY, boot the liveCD up, and lets see what we can do
[02:31] <MuffY> hexidigital, you mean the text based installer?
[02:31] <MuffY> ok
[02:31] <archie> thank you!!!
[02:32] <hexidigital> MuffY::  yes
[02:32] <kenthomson> hexidigital, thats a harsh comment, that the problem is a GNOME thing
[02:32] <mmzin> cybercod,  are u there my steam get an ERROR
[02:32] <hexidigital> kenthomson::  KDE had no problems, i haven't been able to figure anything else... so, 1+1=...
[02:32] <MuffY> kenthomson, hexidigital, make love, not war =p
[02:32] <hexidigital> MuffY::  :-P
[02:33] <MiniJames> 3?
[02:33] <hexidigital> kenthomson::  nothing against Gnome, but i feel it is Gnome specific
[02:33] <kenthomson> MiniJames, no he means 11 :)
[02:33] <MiniJames> nah 1+1 = a window ;)
[02:33] <kitsune1> cybercod : cant find a way to install nvidis drivers through command line on live cd
[02:33] <MiniJames> windows...
[02:33] <cybercod> kenthomson... did you get wine to work right with that?
[02:33] <mmzin> cybercod, Steam.exe (main exception): Unable to start Steam Engine: *SteamStarEngine(0x750ba8) faled with error 200: Connection Reset, WinSock Error 10054 "Connection reset by peer"
[02:34] <kenthomson> cybercod, yeah wine worked, but i cant configure shockwave to work correctly, can you help?
[02:34] <cybercod> sorry ken.. no ... my braincells are misfiring... its dawn here
[02:34] <basvg> hff, there's no ipod-sharp package in the repositories is there
[02:34] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx (or appropriate binary) && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  -- then restart X
[02:34] <kenthomson> cybercod, :(
[02:34] <cybercod> !nvidia
[02:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:35] <hexidigital> eh... i forgot about that
[02:35] <nn> aww she loveses me
[02:35] <nn> *squeals then pulls dirt over his coffin*
[02:35] <fotoflo_> nn: i rebooted and that all worked
[02:35] <kitsune1> hmm ok but were do i put the drivers first coz i havent go ubuntu installed yet its runnin of live cd
[02:35] <MuffY> kenthomson, live CD is up =)
[02:35] <nn> fotoflo_: good stuff
[02:35] <fotoflo_> err rather, my modified fstab worked
[02:36] <fotoflo_> i have a wierd problem though
[02:36] <fotoflo_> im running apache, but it dosnt show up in ps -A
[02:36] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  what about httpd?
[02:36] <MuffY> kenthomson: please tell me you're still here O_o
[02:37] <fotoflo_> no
[02:37] <kenthomson> MuffY, open a terminal and type "mkdir ~/ubuntuPartition"
[02:37] <MuffY> k
[02:37] <_0mk4r_> how to convert all mp3 files to ogg q2?
[02:37] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, thats what i mean ps -A |grep httpd comes up empty
[02:37] <nn> fotoflo_: i usually use ps auwwx|grep httpd
[02:37] <nn> or apache2
[02:37] <kenthomson> MuffY, after that open gparted and see on what HDD and partition ubuntu resides and tell me
[02:37] <kitsune1> hexidigital : hmm ok but were do i put the drivers first coz i havent go ubuntu installed yet its runnin of live cd
[02:37] <cybercod> kitsume1 first off i suggest you get a package called mined... its a text editor that works pretty well in command line... so Ctrl+alt+F5 then sudo apt-get install mined
[02:37] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  did you just finishing installing?
[02:37] <nn> very likely the path/etc makes it too long to show
[02:37] <cybercod> then ctrl+alt+F7
[02:38] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  sorry, i assumed ubuntu was already installed... i dont know if dl-ing, then installing will work
[02:38] <MuffY> kenthomson, ubuntu is on hda1
[02:38] <fotoflo_> hexidigital: well, ive just installed it
[02:38] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  i mean, did you just install apache?
[02:38] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a tutorial for making a simple perl plugin for gaim? Can't find anything that works
[02:38] <kenthomson> MuffY, Ubuntu is on hda and one 1=first partition right?
[02:38] <fotoflo_> but when i go to http://localhost/ it shows up
[02:38] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start (or just apache, depending on version)
[02:39] <nn> i'll have to check out mined, i personally use joe
[02:39] <hexidigital> hmm
[02:39] <MuffY> kenthomson, i installed in on hda1, and yes, first partition (only partition)
[02:39] <nn> but i grew up wif wordstar
[02:39] <kenthomson> MuffY, ok
[02:39] <MuffY> hda1
[02:39] <kitsune1> hexidigital : this is what i get when i run live cd to try and install ubuntu
[02:39] <kitsune1> hexidigital : http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00184xw2.jpg
[02:39] <cybercod> i got mined when i was in a jam.. and i like it ... i've not looked for a better one
[02:39] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, but its running
[02:39] <fotoflo_> i can http to localhost
[02:39] <cybercod> mined actually has ALT menus
[02:40] <nn> i really like joe.. been my favourite editor since i learned it
[02:40] <kenthomson> MuffY, "sudo mount /dev/hda1 ~/ubuntuPartition ext3  iocharset=utf8,umask=000"
[02:40] <nn> i really dont remember when ilearned it, either
[02:40] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[02:40] <cybercod> well, i've been on linux less than 4 months.. so i'm sure I'll change my preferences over time
[02:40] <nn> probably back in say 1999?
[02:40] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  that is real wierd... newer video card, i assume?
[02:41] <nn> the keybindings are a bit odd, but once you learn them, very fast
[02:41] <phos> what is edgy support like for intel core2?
[02:41] <mamzers555> can somebody tell me, what extension i have to install to get a menu in nautilus that give me the option to encrypt files with gpg?
[02:41] <MuffY> kenthomson, isn't it ISO charset? (just asking :))
[02:41] <kitsune1> hexidigital : nvidia xfx geforce 6600 gt
[02:41] <kenthomson> MuffY, no
[02:41] <nn> cybercod: yea, you'll find what you prefer most
[02:41] <MuffY> kenthomson, ok
[02:41] <nn> cybercod: i've just 'always' used joe, so no realy reason or desire to change
[02:41] <cybercod> i feel i'm doing ok for such a little amount of time
[02:41] <MuffY> kenthomson, it wrote a qwhole lot of things
[02:41] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, same thing, but i got an error on reload
[02:41] <nn> it's pretty small yet very featureful and effecient key bindings once you lear
[02:42] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  you can try this... apt-get download {your driver}, then copy it to a flash drive and install it after the install
[02:42] <kenthomson> MuffY, Dont worry "cd ~/ubuntuPartition" then "ls" Do you see "boot"?
[02:42] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  what error? about fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:42] <fotoflo_> yeah
[02:42] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, server is still up but still no process
[02:43] <kitsune1> hexidigital : after install? but i cant really see anything when i put in the live cd
[02:43] <MuffY> kenthomson: bash: cd: /home/ubuntu/ubuntuPartition: No such file or directory
[02:43] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  dont worry about that... i have a registered FQDN, and i still get that error... i fixed it once, but dont remember how :/
[02:43] <fotoflo_> not worried about it
[02:43] <fotoflo_> im more worried that theres no HTTPD pid
[02:43] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  another option would be to dl the alternative cd...
[02:43] <kenthomson> MuffY, "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu"
[02:44] <fotoflo_> and that i dont know where my httpd.conf is
[02:44] <kenthomson> MuffY, "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/ubuntu/ -t ext3 -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"
[02:44] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  i dunno... httpd.conf is in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[02:44] <MuffY> kenthomson, it doens't print anything when i do these things, i hope that's right?
[02:44] <kenthomson> ya
[02:45] <kitsune1> iv trdyd all cd the llink of pici sent u is from 6.06 but when i put in the new 6.10 before ubuntu boots the screen goes black and says video mode not supported
[02:45] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  ps -A | grep apache
[02:45] <kitsune1> hexidigital : ^
[02:45] <kenthomson> MuffY, "cd /media/ubuntu"
[02:46] <cybercod>     how does one enable restricted repos with apt-get?
[02:46] <kenthomson> MuffY, "ls" what do you get?
[02:46] <MuffY> kenthomson, ok, did that, it printed a lot of text again, it looks like a help COMMAND thing, it explains how to use the command :/
[02:46] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, oh there it is heh
[02:46] <fotoflo_> whops
[02:46] <fotoflo_> thanks
[02:46] <kenthomson> MuffY, Did you go to "cd /media/ubuntu"?
[02:46] <mmzin> anyone have steam working ?
[02:46] <MuffY> kenthomson, it shows nothing
[02:46] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  i dunno... i wish i could help more.. liek i said, i know nothing about installing a driver *before* installing from Live
[02:47] <fotoflo_> sweet
[02:47] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  found it?
[02:47] <MuffY> kenthomson, yes i did, i types ls, and there is nothing
[02:47] <kenthomson> MuffY,  go to "cd /media" then "ls" Do you have a "ubuntu" file?
[02:47] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  i mean apache pid?
[02:47] <MuffY> kenthomson, yes, in a nice shade of blue
[02:47] <kitsune1> :( ok m thanks for all your help
[02:47] <kitsune1> m8*
[02:47] <MuffY> more purple though
[02:47] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  sorry :(
[02:47] <kenthomson> MuffY, "cd /ubuntu" then "ls" do you see anything?
[02:47] <kitsune1> its ok ill find some way lol
[02:47] <cypher1> is there any equivalent of cyberlink powerdvd of windows in ubuntu ?
[02:48] <cybercod> kitsume... i think there's a way... but you'd have an easier time getting the alternate install cd and installing FIRST
[02:48] <MuffY> bash says /ubuntu doesn't exist
[02:48] <MuffY> ftw
[02:48] <kenthomson> MuffY, "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu"
[02:48] <MuffY> it listed the $#&* partition :/
[02:48] <kitsune1> alternate?
[02:48] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, found it
[02:48] <fotoflo_> found it all
[02:49] <fotoflo_> excellent thansk
[02:49] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  if you are not pressed on time, you could download the server .iso, and when that finishes installing (and if you can see your screen), you can sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop && sudo aptitude install nvidia-{your driver}
[02:49] <MuffY> bash: cannot create directory '/media/ubuntu': File exists
[02:49] <kenthomson> MuffY, after that "cd /media" then "cd /ubuntu"
[02:49] <MuffY> ffftttwwwwww
[02:49] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  :) glad to help
[02:49] <kenthomson> MuffY, "cd /media/ubuntu" what do you get?
[02:49] <MuffY> kenthomson, it still says ubuntu isn't there
[02:50] <kitsune1> hmm:( me n00b lol
[02:50] <MuffY> oh wait
[02:50] <MuffY> i'm in
[02:50] <MuffY> kenthomson, it works =)
[02:50] <cybercod> kitsume...  did you get mined?
[02:50] <MuffY> kenthomson, i'm in /media/ubuntu now
[02:50] <kenthomson> MuffY, "ls" any output?
[02:51] <MuffY> no
[02:51] <hexidigital> kitsune1::  heh.. being a n00b is what makes learning fun :)
[02:51] <kitsune1> lol ok m8
[02:51] <fotoflo_> I just want to say that this channel is great! i went into another linux channel recently and someone told me to to "dd /dev/zero /dev/hda"
[02:51] <fotoflo_> everyone is so helpful here, really sweet
[02:51] <MuffY> fotoflo_, hahahahaha
[02:51] <cybercod> kitsune...did you get the package "mined"?
[02:51] <MuffY> poor ypu
[02:51] <kitsune1> maybe please u can show me what to download
[02:51] <MuffY> you didn't do it right?
[02:51] <kitsune1> cant find it really lol
[02:51] <fotoflo_> no of course not
[02:51] <MuffY> who knows =p
[02:52] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  what channel was that?!
[02:52] <kitsune1> ok found it
[02:52] <kitsune1> mined
[02:52] <MuffY> kenthomson, ls doesn't give any output
[02:52] <kenthomson> MuffY, "df -h" what do you see?
[02:52] <fotoflo_> i havent used linux in about 10 years, but i still have a basic idea of how things work
[02:52] <cybercod> kitsume install that and we'll use it to edit your sources.list
[02:52] <kitsune1> on windows?
[02:52] <rich232> how do I edit menu.lst if its write protected and root doent work
[02:52] <MuffY> kenthomson, i see a lot of things, want me to type it over?
[02:52] <unfun> How do I know if i'm using kde or gnome?
[02:52] <cybercod> no..in the live cd session
[02:53] <kenthomson> MuffY, paste it in #kensworld
[02:53] <kitsune1> ok were should i download and put it?
[02:53] <kitsune1> in were lol
[02:53] <cybercod> no... you need to get it from apt-get
[02:53] <fotoflo_> then they kicked me when i told them to type "/part #channel" in order to gain instant ops
[02:53] <cybercod> sudo apt-get install mined
[02:54] <kitsune1> apt-get ?
[02:54] <kitsune1> lol
[02:54] <cybercod> ok... get out yer pen and paper
[02:54] <kitsune1> ok
[02:54] <cybercod> can unregistered nicks pm eachother?
[02:54] <hexidigital> cybercod::  i dont think so
[02:55] <cybercod> well, you guys watch me.. make sure i make no typos here
[02:55] <kitsune1> :)
[02:55] <cybercod> ready kitsune?
[02:55] <kitsune1> yes
[02:56] <cybercod> write all these instructions down and I'll tell you when to begin using them
[02:56] <kitsune1> hmm ok
[02:56] <anjue> ...
[02:56] <anjue> ah..............
[02:56] <anjue> I need some help
[02:56] <anjue> about apt-proxy
[02:57] <cybercod> kitsume   first press Ctrl+alt+F5 and then put in ubuntu for the username and there is no password on the live disk
[02:57] <richee> hehehe
[02:57] <richee> /root/beer
[02:57] <richee> same here
[02:57] <cybercod> next
[02:57] <hexidigital> richee::  glad someone found it funny :)
[02:58] <cybercod> once you're logged in should be ubuntu@ubuntu or something like that
[02:58] <kitsune1> ok
[02:58] <cybercod> at this point  type             sudo apt-get install mined
[02:58] <linuxeatswindows> I did to hexidigital but I just woke up so Im hesitant at typing
[02:58] <richee> hexidigital: heheheh
[02:58] <HawkeV> anyone know anything about ubuntu pxe booting?
[02:59] <hexidigital> linuxeatswindows::  heh... i hate when i wake up before my fingers
[02:59] <cybercod> once that finishes, come back by pressing Ctrl+alt+F7 and let me know that it worked or not
[02:59] <cybercod> kitsune  go ahead and do that now
[02:59] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, mkbeer /usr/fridge
[02:59] <kitsune1> ok but were do i put the mined file i just downloaded in? im in windows
[03:00] <cybercod> you need to be logged into the live disk to do this... narf
[03:00] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  ./configure beer && make drink && make drink consume
[03:00] <kitsune1> ok but how whould it find the mined file i downloaded in windows
[03:00] <fotoflo_> if it were only that easy
[03:01] <bmhm> hi all
[03:01] <Barghest> are linux newbies welcome here?
[03:01] <cybercod> you wouldn't... apt-get will download it... problem is
[03:01] <HawkeV> guess that's a no then =/
[03:01] <bmhm> =>> sdptool browse 00:12:47:AD:FE:53
[03:01] <bmhm> won't show me anything
[03:01] <cybercod> problem is you won't be able to talk to us because of your errors
[03:01] <kitsune1> lol ok
[03:01] <cybercod> and coming back in here will nullify getting mined because it will just be in ram-drive
[03:02] <kenthomson> cybercod, How do i access Ubuntu's (on HDD) FileSystem from a Ubuntu LIve CD?
[03:02] <cybercod> so wait
[03:02] <bmhm> no output, why? =>> sdptool browse 00:12:47:AD:FE:53
[03:02] <cybercod> lemme get you more instructions first
[03:02] <unfun> How do I remove gnome?
[03:02] <kenthomson> cybercod, assume liveCD is running and Ubuntu FS (the one on HDD) is on hda1
[03:02] <cybercod> cancel out the CTRL+ALT+F7 part
[03:02] <HawkeV> mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu
[03:02] <fotoflo_> hexidigital, hey what was that url you sent me a little while ago? it had alot of useful stuff on it
[03:02] <kitsune1> ok
[03:02] <bmhm> no output, why? =>> sdptool browse 00:12:47:AD:FE:53
[03:02] <Barghest> how do I get another machine to share my current Linux machine's internet connection?
[03:03] <BloodHunter> hey
[03:03] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  url for what? (i dont remember)
[03:03] <HawkeV> bmhm, repeatedly asking the same thing is just going to get you /ignored man
[03:03] <bmhm> ok sorry
[03:03] <BloodHunter> GOt one Question ;D
[03:03] <Zaggynl> Anyone here has experience with getting gaim plugins to work?
[03:03] <fotoflo_> it was like how to do a million things in ubuntu
[03:03] <BloodHunter> Ubuntu is much more fast when i install it on harddrive, then running it with VMware?
[03:03] <fotoflo_> maybe it was someone else who sent it to me
[03:03] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, yes
[03:03] <kenthomson> BloodHunter, absolutely
[03:03] <BloodHunter> hm
[03:04] <BloodHunter> can i cut a half of a partition of windows? :D
[03:04] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  i dont think that was me that sent that link... lemme look in my sent messages.. hang on one sec
[03:04] <Zaggynl> BloodHunter, possible, but better not do that
[03:04] <cybercod> next step will be to type in                       mined /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:04] <BloodHunter> i mean, make the partition smaller
[03:04] <kitsune1> cybercod : ubuntu works nicely in VMware
[03:04] <Zaggynl> BloodHunter, yup
[03:04] <kitsune1> ok
[03:04] <fotoflo_> dont bother
[03:04] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, you could use pqmagic from within windows
[03:04] <fotoflo_> ill look at my history
[03:04] <cybercod> aaaaaahh...
[03:04] <neutrinomass> how do I play .ram files ?
[03:04] <HawkeV> or if you're technically inclined, boot a livecd and use parted
[03:05] <BloodHunter> can i install ubuntu while i have win xp online? since i dont have a burner :P
[03:05] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, no
[03:05] <hexidigital> fotoflo_::  yep, definitely wasn't me :)
[03:05] <BloodHunter> shit
[03:05] <hexidigital> !ohno
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohno - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <hexidigital> !language
[03:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:05] <kitsune1> :)
[03:06] <HawkeV> so, anyone know if ubuntu's installer has an option similar to anaconda's linux askmethod?
[03:06] <cybercod> you're gonna look for sources that end in "restricted" and remove the # in front of them
[03:06] <Infeliz> !sensitive|hexidigital
[03:06] <adaptr> January 1st... seems like the perfect time to upgrade to edgy
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sensitive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <CheshireViking> fotoflo: was it this link? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[03:06] <Infeliz> shiiieet
[03:06] <BloodHunter> last question ;D can i connect from ubuntu to a win xp remote computer?
[03:06] <cybercod> you'll need to save the file
[03:06] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, depends what you mean
[03:07] <HawkeV> but the short answer is 'yes'
[03:07] <cybercod> then you'll want to type in          sudo apt-get update
[03:07] <BloodHunter> k
[03:07] <adaptr> BloodHunter: connect in what way ? I know of at least 2 dozen I can use
[03:07] <fotoflo_> CheshireViking, yeah! thanks
[03:07] <BloodHunter> i mean like use it to control the comp :P
[03:07] <hexidigital> !coc
[03:07] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:07] <hexidigital> bah
[03:07] <fotoflo_> bookmarked
[03:07] <adaptr> BloodHunter: rdesktop
[03:07] <hexidigital> sorry
[03:08] <BloodHunter> right
[03:08] <CheshireViking> fotoflo_: your welcome
[03:08] <BloodHunter> thx
[03:08] <cybercod> then you're gonna type in             sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:08] <BloodHunter> ahhh got another question :P
[03:09] <BloodHunter> does ubuntu automatically install the drivers for graphics card, mainboard and so on, or i have to do that myself
[03:09] <adaptr> Wow.. it's gonna fetch like.. 1585 files to upgrade
[03:09] <HawkeV> BloodHunter, heh, most of them, yes
[03:09] <adaptr> BloodHunter: what video card do you have ?
[03:09] <HawkeV> if you've got some sort of whack hardware
[03:09] <BloodHunter> Geforce 7900gt
[03:09] <HawkeV> you may need to do some legwork
[03:09] <cybercod> next you'll type in            sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:09] <fotoflo_> god this system is a pain in the bollocks
[03:09] <bjames_> hi all, firstly sorry for the stupid question, but does anyone know if I *need* to install an X server on a machine that's only going to be used via Xming logon?
[03:09] <HawkeV> for nvidia stuff, you'll need to do what cybercod is currently talking about
[03:09] <kenthomson>  cybercod, How do i access Ubuntu's (on HDD) FileSystem from a Ubuntu LIve CD?
[03:09] <kenthomson> cybercod, assume liveCD is running and Ubuntu FS (the one on HDD) is on hda1
[03:09] <adaptr> BloodHunter: enable all repos and fetch restricted-modules for your kernel.. that includes the nvidia closed source driver, and you're all set
[03:10] <BloodHunter> how? :P
[03:10] <cybercod> and at this point you should be able to hit CTRL+ALT+F7 and get graphical interface back up with the new drivers
[03:10] <HawkeV> kenthomson, mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu
[03:10] <HawkeV> in a console
[03:10] <adaptr> BloodHunter: go to system -> synaptic and search for restricted-modules
[03:10] <BloodHunter> kk
[03:10] <adaptr> !nvidia | BloodHunter
[03:10] <ubotu> BloodHunter: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:11] <slacker_nl> !avisplit
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avisplit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <bjames_> Bloodhunter: can I recommend a more appropriate channel?  "try /join nvidia"
[03:11] <slacker_nl> !avi > slacker_nl
[03:11] <bjames_> "/join nvidia" without the quotes
[03:11] <adaptr> bjames_: is that Ubuntu-specific ?
[03:11] <cybercod> once you are at this point you should be able to install like normal... though I'd appreciate it if you start up GAIM and come tell us if it worked before starting the install.
[03:11] <cybercod> did you get all of that kitsune1?
[03:11] <bjames_> no, but it's the right place to go for support installing the prebuilt binaries
[03:12] <bjames_> just an idea
[03:12] <kenthomson> HawkeV, ok
[03:12] <adaptr> bjames_: well, IIRC Ubuntu has some builtin "logic" to help you do this, so why not Google for it ?
[03:12] <kitsune1> hmmm ok m8 thanks a million for your help ill try my best lol
[03:12] <adaptr> bjames_: it's at least 3 times easier than using nvidia's guidelines...
[03:12] <Plinty> how can I mount a remove storage device (an mp3 player, which acts like a removable hard drive with FAT file system (not FAT32))
[03:12] <bjames_> adaptr: ?
[03:12] <cybercod> hey kitsune
[03:12] <kitsune1> yes
[03:13] <adaptr> bjames_: you have to do at least 3 distinct things to get the vanilla nvidia binary to work, and Ubuntu pretty much does them for you
[03:13] <bjames_> I've installed Nvidia drivers before - the best place I found was form the Ubuntu getting started guide, but that's just my experience
[03:13] <kenthomson> HawkeV, How do i give read/write access to that partition you just mounted?
[03:13] <cybercod> if you can start up the live cd in VMware, perhaps you can check the syntax of this stuff before trying it for real
[03:13] <HawkeV> it should be read/write by default
[03:13] <HawkeV> unless you mean to any user
[03:14] <adaptr> bjames_: indeed, but it differs enough from the "official" nvidia way that newcomers probably don't want to be confused by it
[03:14] <bjames_> anywho, does anyone have a clue about my question?
[03:14] <kenthomson> ok
[03:14] <klaus> Hello, with autofs i have probs automounting floppy - is autofs the right way ? or do i have to use udev? i am using edgy .... has anybody any ideas ?
[03:14] <adaptr> bjames_: what was it ? :)
[03:14] <kitsune1> hmm gd idea
[03:14] <HawkeV> if you mean the latter, pmount may be a better idea, alternatively, you could pass -o umask=000 to mount, which should give everyone full access to every file
[03:14] <bjames_> adaptr: I have Ubuntu server set up running SSH and SAMBA as a fileserver - do I need to install an X server on the machine in order to run graphical programs remotely (via Xming)
[03:14] <cybercod> bjames someone was in here earlier that was using an ubuntu-minimal installation with no x
[03:15] <bjames_> adaptr: I asked this over in "xorg", but none of them knew exactly
[03:15] <adaptr> bjames_: ah I see it - well, you *need* the libraries so that X clients can connect to your remote X server, and AFAIK they're only fully installed when you do the full Xorg installation.. you should just go with xorg and tell it not to start up a local X server automatically
[03:16] <bjames_> adaptr: cheers, I'll try and figure out how to do that
[03:16] <adaptr> bjames_: it is mnore relevant to tell your display manager (xdm, gdm, kdm) to do the right things, like A. not start the local X server, and B. open up XDMCP to network requests
[03:16] <bjames_> adaptr: have you had any experience with Xming?
[03:16] <adaptr> bjames_: so, gdm config, not so much Xorg config
[03:17] <cyrus4> hey   im new to ubuntu,  ive installed the nvidia drivers or whatever   just wondering if n e one knows y my screen saver and other full screen video apps are like  stuttering...  its v annoying
[03:17] <adaptr> bjames_: I tried it a while back, and if you just set an Ubuntu desktop to allow remote X, it works pretty much out of the box... haven't had that much luck with a remote server though
[03:17] <adaptr> cyrus4: that means you do *not* actually have the nvidia drivers functioning.. run "glxinfo | grep direct" as root
[03:17] <hexidigital> cyrus4::  did you restart your GUI? (if not, log out, and press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[03:18] <bjames_> adaptr: I'm pretty much a newcomer, so to be clear I need to    1) install x- server?    2) somehow edit the startup scripts(? ) to prevent it starting into gdm
[03:18] <hexidigital> cyrus4::  or, you may have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg and select the proper newly installed driver
[03:18] <kitsune1> cybercod : thanks alot m8 for ur help im away to try it
[03:18] <alecjw> cyrus4: and have you told x to use the nvidia drivers?
[03:18] <cyrus4> yep yep  my mate set it up for me couple of days ago   everything should be sweet and i have a 6600GT   but cant play videos and stuff fullscreen without stutter
[03:18] <klaus> hey nobody here with any idea ?  with autofs i have probs automounting floppy - is autofs the right way ? or do i have to use udev? i am using edgy
[03:19] <kitsune1> ill come bk later on and tell u how far i got
[03:19] <fotoflo_> whats the chmod to make a script runnable?
[03:19] <kitsune1> thanks agian m8
[03:19] <cybercod> kitsune1... i forgot... once you get back into graphical by hitting Ctrl+alt+F7 do a Ctrl+alt+Backspace to restart the GUI
[03:19] <kenthomson> HawkeV,  mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu  -o umask=000, gives full access right?
[03:19] <alecjw> cyrus4: just to make sure, what happens if you type the command "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia" (sans quotes) in the terminal?
[03:20] <richee> hi narasim_7
[03:20] <narasim_7> Hi
[03:20] <adaptr> bjames_: halfway there.. you do need to install X, yes - it's called xorg-server or something, but you do want to start a display manager - it just should not start  the X server.
[03:20] <LameBMX> KenSentMe, that should give no axxess
[03:20] <bjames_> adaptr: ok
[03:20] <LameBMX> im pretty sure umask uses same string as chmod
[03:20] <HawkeV> LameBMX, no, the way umask works
[03:20] <adaptr> bjames_: connecting to a remote X machine is done with the XDMCP protocol, which is part of the display manager - gdm in Ubuntu's default case
[03:20] <narasim_7> gnomesystemtools like users and groups , services etc dont ask for password anymore ... Is this happening to anyone ?
[03:20] <bjames_> in which case does it matter which I choose?
[03:20] <HawkeV> is the reverse to what you're thinking
[03:20] <HawkeV> 777 - umask
[03:21] <HawkeV> 022 would give you
[03:21] <HawkeV> 755
[03:21] <bjames_> adaptr: (it'll probably be gdm)
[03:21] <HawkeV> or root r/w, world read/execute
[03:21] <HawkeV> 000 = 777
[03:21] <HawkeV> which is world r/w
[03:21] <cyrus4> alecjw: yer   Driver     "nvidia"
[03:21] <LameBMX> then then why dont umask=222 give me write access on a ntfs drive
[03:21] <adaptr> bjames_: a little more technical: it is actually gdm that "tells" the X system to use the local X server as the users' display - but it could as well be a remote display
[03:21] <alecjw> cyrus4: that's starnge... can't help0 you then, sorry.
[03:21] <HawkeV> because you are a retard and you just ignored what i said
[03:21] <cyrus4> thx n e ways :)
[03:21] <adaptr> HawkeV: keep it nice
[03:22] <HawkeV> 777-222 = 555
[03:22] <bjames_> adaptr: I'll tell you the whole story, just for clarity.  I'm thinking of setting up a fileserver and at the moment I've installed Ubuntu server 6.06 on VMware and had a "play"
[03:22] <HawkeV> or read/execute for everyone
[03:22] <HawkeV> adaptr, rgr
[03:22] <LameBMX> and HawkeV is more likeyly right im a n00b and just goin but guesses based on what ive fiddled wit
[03:22] <adaptr> bjames_: I'm running 606LTS as a file/web/mail/whatever server here, it's a beaut
[03:22] <bjames_> adaptr: what I want ideally is a minimalist install on hardware but that I can log into using Xming
[03:22] <rich232> what line do I add in menu.lst so that startup starts at 1600 by 1200?
[03:22] <HawkeV> LameBMX, basically, umask=022 would give root r/w, but no-one else
[03:22] <HawkeV> fwiw
[03:22] <adaptr> bjames_: that =kinda contradicts itself.. you won't have a minimalist install when X is possible
[03:23] <bjames_> adaptr: it was easy enough to set up so I'm happy with it so far on VMware - will be moving to hardware in a week or so
[03:23] <adaptr> bjames_: do you know what hardware ?
[03:23] <LameBMX> i think i wound up using the wordy version anyways
[03:23] <LameBMX> :)
[03:23] <bjames_> adaptr: well temporarily a PIII 450, 1G RAM 40G HDD
[03:23] <adaptr> (running on HP Netserver E800 dual P3 here - it was kind of a "steal".. :)
[03:23] <Zaggynl> Hmm I can't download the gaim source with 'sudo apt-get source gaim'
[03:24] <adaptr> bjames_: 1GB of ram is in-sa-neey :)
[03:24] <Zaggynl> http://pastebin.ca/299132
[03:24] <LameBMX> like i said HawkeV ... if something dont work the first time ... i just try different things till it does (after backing up of course)
[03:24] <HawkeV> LameBMX, i like that method of learning =)
[03:24] <LameBMX> or in the case of xorg almost have memorized
[03:24] <HawkeV> google+trial&error == win
[03:24] <lipe> I need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!
[03:24] <adaptr> bjames_: mine has 256, and it uses about 160 of that with samba, Postfix, apache, mysql, named, mailscanner etc. running
[03:24] <bjames_> adaptr: well I don't know what to do relaly my *main* PC (Windows box) has an AMD x2 3800 3G RAM 400G HDDs so I was going to doneate some RAM from that
[03:24] <LameBMX> yea .. i remember things better lol
[03:25] <adaptr> bjames_: not possible, believe me
[03:25] <HawkeV> dum-de-dum
[03:25] <LameBMX> all this talk about how stable nix is .. and i crash my box about 10 times a day ..
[03:25] <HawkeV> lol
[03:25] <HawkeV> linux is stable in a server environment
[03:25] <LameBMX> yea i understand
[03:25] <lipe> I need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!
[03:25] <bjames_> adaptr: I might not donate any RAM at all as I have 128 + 256 sticks on the PIII mobo
[03:25] <LameBMX> crap about 3 years ago when i got my first computer ... windows installs didnt last a day
[03:26] <danny> hi guys I just wanted to know if there was any project in the near future to create a new sub distro for tablets, ex : Tubuntu..  that would be nice, spcially since more and more students are getting tablets...
[03:26] <adaptr> bjames_: a P3 uses single rate SDRAM, at 133MHz max., while an AMD 64 uses DDR SDRAM at 266MHz minimum - they're not ecxactly compatible
[03:26] <LameBMX> i could prolly resurrect about half of those now but dont really matter its how i learn
[03:26] <bjames_> adaptr: to be honest I've not looked at the RAM to see if they are compatible so probably
[03:26] <narasim_7> the power management in Kubuntu Control center does not work properly for me..it always becomes 2 hrs eventhugh i set it to 2 minutes ...
[03:26] <bjames_> oops
[03:26] <HawkeV> tubuntu...
[03:26] <lilly> how do i forcefully unmount a mounted image?
[03:26] <narasim_7> any ideas?
[03:26] <HawkeV> is it bad that that gives me bad mental images?
[03:26] <adaptr> bjames_: 384 is  more than enough for the foreseeable future
[03:26] <bjames_> adaptr: good good
[03:26] <HawkeV> lilly, umount -l /mounted/thingy
[03:26] <LameBMX> been using a computer for all of 3 years and now i work fixing them
[03:26] <HawkeV> that's an ehl, not a one
[03:26] <lilly> HawkeV: ok
[03:27] <HawkeV> stands for lazy unmount
[03:27] <adaptr> bjames_: things you *do* want in a server are: 1. ECC memory, if you can get it, and 2. redundant storage.
[03:27] <HawkeV> and it should do what you want
[03:27] <lipe> I need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!
[03:27] <adaptr> bjames_: 1. is a nice option to have, but 2. is non-negotiable - use a mirrored system disk at least
[03:27] <sukarn> can someone tell me how to build raid arrays (mdadm)? I have a single hard drive (80 GB) from weston digital. I am using 7.04 (testing), and there seems to be some problem with raid arrays in mdadm, causing initramfs-tools to fall back to emergency procedures. while i am able to boot with these kernels, the boot process is very slow, login takes a lot of time, and hard drive activity causes a lot of cpu usage
[03:27] <HawkeV> adaptr, you only want ECC if your processor is compatible with it
[03:27] <bjames_> adaptr: the thing is I was thinking of long-term - I kind of want a system with RAID (when I feel brave enough) and I was wondering if it's possible to have it spin down the HDDs so they don't get too much wear and then use a large RAM buffer and only spin up the HDDS when needed
[03:27] <Grok_> can anyone recommend a good cd ripper/encoder for ubunbtu/linux?
[03:27] <HawkeV> otherwise you'll run into more underlying issues
[03:27] <lipe> I need some help, to install qt 4.1.4, please !!!
[03:27] <Dicander> I am running Ubuntu 6.10 inside a parallels virtual machine under OSX. I tried to install democracy player but got the error message dependency is not satisfiable: mozilla-dev.
[03:27] <hexidigital> lipe::  please don't repeat... if someone know they will help... plus, you haven't described your issue
[03:28] <adaptr> HawkeV: well, strictly, it is only useful if the *mainboard* supports it, but yeah.
[03:28] <adaptr> HawkeV: ECC support is not dependent on the CPU
[03:28] <hexidigital> Grok_::  soundjuicer is pretty easy to use + efficient from what i have done
[03:28] <HawkeV> true, some CPUs do require it tho
[03:28] <Dicander> When I tried to install it using apt I got the message "mozilla-dev" has no release candidate and they suggested that I install libnspr-dev instead. I did, but the error remained. Does anyone know what I might try?
[03:28] <HawkeV> woodcrest/opteron to name a couple
[03:28] <sukarn> Dicander: type in a terminal - sudo apt-get install mozilla-dev
[03:28] <pegger_> xubuntu or ubuntu?
[03:28] <phr34ck> Where could I find this package: sun-java5-jre ?
[03:28] <Grok_> hexidigital, thanks i'll check it out
[03:29] <lipe> hexidigital: I need to install qt 4.1.4 with an archive .tar.gz, and i need someone help for it ...
[03:29] <HawkeV> impe, putting ECC registered ram in a box with a cpu that doesn't need it just causes headaches
[03:29] <adaptr> bjames_: RAID requires no courage - only money :) if you use Linux softraid it works fast, simple, and very very dependably
[03:29] <hexidigital> lipe::  ok... so, you're compling from source code?
[03:29] <adaptr> bjames_: for a server, spinning down the HDs is not an option.
[03:29] <LameBMX> oh wait i  do have a reboot issue .. ill brb with a screenie of my error ... now this one tends to happen if i hit enter in grub too fast .. like <=10 secs ....
[03:29] <HawkeV> swraid... dependable
[03:29] <vanberge> anybody can recommend a good front end to scp?  :-)
[03:29] <bjames_> adaptr: yeah I've heard it's faster than hardware RAID in most cases
[03:29] <lipe> hexidigital: yes ... src ...
[03:29] <bjames_> RAID 5 would be ideal
[03:29] <LameBMX> bjames_, fakeraid .. is a pain in the butt .. but it works too ... eventually
[03:30] <hexidigital> ok, one sec
[03:30] <HawkeV> bjames_, swraid 0 or 1 maybe
[03:30] <HawkeV> swraid anything else is neither fast or reliable
[03:30] <sukarn> Dicander: do you have all the repos enabled?
[03:30] <LameBMX> speakin of which how can i add to a wiki or whatever ?
[03:30] <adaptr> bjames_: well, it's obviously not, if you use decent hardware.. but it is a lot less expensive, and it can combine drives from any type of interface
[03:30] <bulmer> vanverge: on konqueror there is fish:///
[03:30] <hexidigital> lipe::  first, make sure you have dependencies.. "sudo apt-get build-dep qt4-dev-tools
[03:30] <alecjw> LameBMX: sign up to thw wiki, and click on edit at he top of the page. to make a new page, go tho that page and click on "make new page"
[03:31] <adaptr> bjames_: the last one is really the most important - if you get, say, 4 drives on a 4-drive RAID card, then that's it - you cannot expand beyond it, and if you decide to put in another 4x card then you'd get 2 arrays at best - with softraid you just set up all 8 drives to give you RAID 10 or 5 or 50 or whatever
[03:31] <Dicander> sukarn: I tried that and got: The package is not available but another package refers to it. This package might replace it: libnspr-dev. Mozilla-dev has no release candidate (rough translation from the actual Swedish messages i got)
[03:31] <adaptr> bjames_: whether RAID5 is ideal really depends on what you're going to use it for
[03:31] <hexidigital> lipe::  then extract the archive -- "tar zxvf {qt.tar.gz file name}, then ./configure, then sudo make, then sudo make install
[03:31] <lipe> hexidigital: : Package xlibmesa-gl-dev has no installation candidate
[03:31] <HawkeV> adaptr, raid10 swraid ain't gonna happen
[03:31] <adaptr> bjames_: in terms of pure storage, yes - it is
[03:32] <HawkeV> if it worked, it would be slow
[03:32] <hexidigital> lipe::  that *could* be a problem... not definitely, though
[03:32] <LameBMX> ahhh so i have to create a wiki account too
[03:32] <adaptr> HawkeV: don't be silly - it's standard on 2.6 kernels
[03:32] <lipe> hexidigital: huhmm. how can i solve that ?!
[03:32] <HawkeV> adaptr, you're on crack bro
[03:32] <HawkeV> 2.6 supports natively, 0,1,3,5 and possibly 6
[03:32] <sukarn> can anyone help me with what I said a while ago? -
[03:32] <sukarn> can someone tell me how to build raid arrays (mdadm)? I have a single hard drive (80 GB) from weston digital. I am using 7.04 (testing), and there seems to be some problem with raid arrays in mdadm, causing initramfs-tools to fall back to emergency procedures. while i am able to boot with these kernels, the boot process is very slow, login takes a lot of time, and hard drive activity causes a lot of cpu usage
[03:32] <lipe> hexidigital: maybe adding another repository ??
[03:32] <bjames_> adaptr: well I like RAID 5 as a balance between fault tolerance and speed, however thinking about it striping (RAID 1?) might be better as it'll be accedd over a wireless network therefore wont need the speed
[03:32] <hexidigital> lipe::  you can try to ./configure it w/o downloading dependencies, and see what you need
[03:32] <HawkeV> sure, you can mirror then stripe two md's
[03:32] <bjames_> accessed*
[03:32] <adaptr> HawkeV: it won't actually increase performance over raid-5 i software, since you'd have to run raid 0 on top of raid 1 , but it is certainly possible
[03:32] <HawkeV> but i've never seen it done
[03:33] <LameBMX> well all i was going to do is put how i used 2 wiki's to install fakeraid with dmraid in guimode .. but it used a non guimode for install lol
[03:33] <Dicander> sukarn: No I haven't enabled any non-default repos. How do I do that?
[03:33] <adaptr> HawkeV: please stop talking out of your rear end :)
[03:33] <LameBMX> :/
[03:33] <HawkeV> adaptr, heh
[03:33] <lipe> hexidigital: i already tryied it, but qt isn't installed correctly
[03:33] <HawkeV> adaptr, do you have any life experience in a real environment with raid, or is this just what you read on google?
[03:33] <HawkeV> \
[03:33] <bjames_> adaptr: I've read a bit about RAID and it seems simple enough to set up in Linux
[03:33] <lipe> hexidigital: i think that my qt is 3.x.x ... and after compiling it, it continues the same
[03:34] <sukarn> Dicander: the package is in the universe repositories
[03:34] <fotoflo_> hmm
[03:34] <hexidigital> lipe::  you can "sudo apt-cache search qt" *replace qt with any dependencies you need to find packages that match
[03:34] <HawkeV> because, given my own experience with RAID implementations in a server environment, i'd be forced to mock anyone who actually considered using swraid for anything that they wanted to be either reliable or reduntant
[03:34] <bjames_> adaptr: basically I want a VERY reliable box that I can sit in a cupboard and not worry too much about, but I'd like to be able to compile stuff with it every now and again
[03:34] <sukarn> Dicander: type in a terminal - gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:34] <fotoflo_> so what needs to happen for a cgi to run on apache?
[03:34] <lipe> hexidigital: lemme try it, thx u very much !
[03:34] <fotoflo_> ive chmod 555'ed the script
[03:34] <HawkeV> bjames_, buy yourself a cheap raid card from newegg
[03:34] <adaptr> HawkeV: what do you mean by real life experience ? I run about 50 HP proliant servers with any thinkable combination of raid and hardware controllers, including a cluster setup with a fully redundant MSA1500 w/ 14x 72GB Ultra320 on fibre channel
[03:35] <hexidigital> lipe::  hope it helps :)
[03:35] <fotoflo_> but i still get forbidden
[03:35] <sukarn> Dicander: then uncomment (remove #) the lines that say universe
[03:35] <Dicander> sukarn: Thanks. I'll try that
[03:35] <adaptr> bjames_: yes, md raid is very easy to set up - you can even let Ubuntu server do it for you while installing
[03:35] <bjames_> Hawkev: how cheap is cheap though?  I think software RAID is probably right for me
[03:35] <adaptr> bjames_: that's what I did - mine is running off 2x 36GB ultra160 on an adaptec card
[03:36] <HawkeV> adaptr, then you should well know that swraid doesn't fly in that environment
[03:36] <sukarn> Dicander: you'll need to do a "sudo apt-get update" before you can inatall mozilla-dev
[03:36] <adaptr> HawkeV: what environment ? what are you talking about ?
[03:36] <HawkeV> bjames_, a cheap card starts at $70
[03:36] <HawkeV> tho, I wouldn't vouch for exactly how reliable it would be
[03:36] <bjames_> you see that's not really "cheap" compared to what I'm looking at shelling out for the rest of the HW
[03:36] <adaptr> bjames_: if the choice is between Linux md RAID and a fakeraid card, forget the card - it's useless
[03:36] <HawkeV> you could pick up a 3ware 7500 for about 150
[03:37] <adaptr> bjames_: a *real* RAID controller will start at around $300, for 4 SATA channels
[03:37] <sukarn> does no one have any idea how to build a raid array? i'm not really sure what i have to do here. i'm using a single HDD, and mdadm is causing some problems
[03:37] <sukarn> i don't even know what RAID is
[03:37] <bjames_> adaptr: exactly!
[03:37] <HawkeV> sukarn, why do you want to build a raid array with a single hdd?
[03:37] <adaptr> bjames_: but that will also give you on-board cache RAM and battery backup - which is a little more than you need for  a home setup
[03:37] <sukarn> see my thread here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326894
[03:38] <bjames_> adaptr: I can get an SATA mobo for 30 (~$45) and software RAID a lot easier!
[03:38] <sukarn> i've explained everything there
[03:38] <lipe> hexidigital: hexi ... i need to compile it in a especific directory ??
[03:38] <adaptr> bjames_: I thought you already had the board ? you mentioned a P3 450 somewhere back
[03:38] <alecjw> sukarn: RAID makes 2 hard drives act as one
[03:38] <hexidigital> lipe::  no... it'll find the directories it needs
[03:38] <fotoflo_> how do i get a cgi script to work in a apache?
[03:39] <bjames_> RAID = redundant array of inexpensive disks - it's a way to either make your storage FASTER, MORE RELIABLE or both
[03:39] <adaptr> fotoflo_: #apache
[03:39] <fotoflo_> ok
[03:39] <HawkeV> sukarn, that error is normal
[03:39] <HawkeV> it's not detrimental to your system in anyway
[03:39] <LameBMX> okay here is my too quick of boot error ... drumroll pleeze .... http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0016kz7.jpg
[03:39] <HawkeV> it's just starting the md drivers, and since you don't have raid, is flagging a warning
[03:39] <lord_ceiphas> i have a problem to teach my edgy eft that my mouse has 12 buttons, not only 9
[03:39] <sukarn> ok, then i wonder why its causing so much CPU usage and HDD slowdown. it never appeared before, and i've not had such slow performance with such high CPU usage
[03:40] <HawkeV> sukarn, you sure the slowdown is md related?
[03:40] <bjames_> adaptr: here's the evolution of my fileserver - VMware setup to test (current), PIII 450 hardware (next step - when I get back to the flat), hardware X (when I get round to upgrading so I can use SATA HDDs possibly)
[03:40] <adaptr> sukarn: good point; run dstat while doing disk-related things to see what causes the slowdown
[03:40] <sukarn> i think it is, and the other guy in the thread also said he'd been having slow downs with the same warning.
[03:41] <adaptr> bjames_: how much time between step 2 and 3 ? if it's less than say a month, it might not be worth the trouble
[03:41] <sukarn> adaptr: i'll do that just now
[03:41] <alecjw> HawkeV: try passing noapci as a kernel argument. if you fix it, you might want ot ad the arguments spash and quiet too, to get rid of that nasty text
[03:41] <adaptr> sukarn: you may have to apt-get dstat first
[03:41] <sukarn> $ dstat
[03:41] <sukarn> bash: dstat: command not found
[03:41] <sukarn> oh ok
[03:42] <bjames_> adaptr: at the moment I'm a Windows user and want a file store with some provision to "play" with Linux
[03:42] <lord_ceiphas> i have a problem to teach my edgy eft that my mouse has 12 buttons, not only 9
[03:43] <bjames_> adaptr: I'll probably install a "minimal" X-install for now and use the PIII hardware with my current PATA drives
[03:43] <bjames_> thanks one and all for the info/advice
[03:43] <hexidigital> lord_ceiphas::  heh.. .i have a problem teaching dapper that i have 5 buttons :-P
[03:43] <adaptr> bjames_: if all you want is a fileserver, why use X at all ?
[03:44] <lord_ceiphas> very funny.. i added the buttons in the xorg.conf, but when i run xmodmap he tells me, that there are only 9... if i look at my mouse, it HAS 12
[03:44] <bjames_> adaptr: well this is something I'm arguing with myself, part of me wants a graphical logic from my Windows box so I can sort of ease myself into Linux (I've only ever dipped my toes in the Linux water and found it to be tepid at best, although it's getting warmer)
[03:44] <Dicander> Where do I find gsuko?
[03:44] <Dicander> What package?
[03:44] <bjames_> login*
[03:45] <jbroome> Dicander: i think you're looking for gksudo
[03:45] <C-O-L-T> Happy new year. Romania and Bulgaria joined to the EU
[03:45] <qos> hey guys... wish u a happy new year
[03:45] <Dicander> jbroome: Thanks. :-)
[03:46] <bjames_> adaptr: (I've tried VMware - which I love, I've also dual booted, but found the sheer number of partitions can be a hastle when windows dies and decides it wants to "reclaim" the HDD behind my back, etc)
[03:46] <sukarn> I have posted the output of dstat here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326894 at the end of the last post on the page (3rd post on the page)
[03:46] <kenthomson> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <adaptr> bjames_: if you manage to set up an X login to your server it will grant you almost no visible benefit.. it is nothing like Windows in any way
[03:47] <Zoffix> Hi, my "xchat" icon disappeared from the panel :/ how can I get it back?
[03:48] <adaptr> bjames_: as a simpel home file and internet server, linux is far superior to windows
[03:48] <DarthLappy> adaptr: As a complex server, Linux is far superior to Windows ^_^
[03:48] <bjames_> adaptr: no, no, I mean I want something that allows me to get more used to Linux in a transition from Windows completely
[03:48] <adaptr> bjames_: I run mine ona dual P3 server system because I can.. because I have it, not because it needs the hardware
[03:49] <adaptr> bjames_: and I am trying to explain that having a GUI on a Linux server will not help with that transition in the slightest
[03:49] <bjames_> adaptr: whilst being useful in the mean time
[03:49] <bjames_> adaptr: why not?
[03:49] <php-freak> i just burned a cd, and the data is tooken up on the cd, but i don't see the files?
[03:50] <adaptr> bjames_: because.. it is *nothing like* Windows
[03:50] <sukarn> adaptr: I have posted the output of dstat here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326894 at the end of the last post on the page (3rd post on the page)
[03:50] <adaptr> sukarn: so, what does it tell you ?
[03:50] <alecjw> php-freak: in windows? try ejecting the cd and putting it in again
[03:50] <bjames_> adaptr: I want to get used to the Linux alternatives to Windows programs so I can transition between the two - I'm not looking to make Linux into Windows, I think we have crossed wires at some point
[03:50] <php-freak> in kubuntu
[03:50] <HawkeV> bjames_, what are you going to use the box for?
[03:50] <HawkeV> desktop, or fileserver?
[03:51] <alecjw> php-freak: well, still try the eject thing
[03:51] <adaptr> bjames_: I understand that, and for that, you can start by running Ubuntu in a vmware host to get used to it. But for a server, things are altogether completely different
[03:51] <qos> i ve got a problem with my freshly installed ubuntu. it just hangs during boot process ... does anyone know why this happens? i guess it has something todo with grub ...
[03:51] <sukarn> adaptr: I don't get any errors, but I cannot understand what its telling me either.
[03:51] <php-freak> I already did
[03:51] <php-freak> I burned with joliet on
[03:51] <adaptr> sukarn: dstat tells you where it is spending its time
[03:51] <Terminus> bjames_: a linux server generally doesn't have a GUI.
[03:51] <javimansilla> How can I install lame in breezy? Does anyone knows what repository should I use?
[03:52] <alecjw> javimansilla: try sudo aptitude isntall gstreamer0.8-lame
[03:52] <adaptr> javimansilla: upgrady ?
[03:52] <alecjw> *install
[03:52] <bjames_> I realise a "typical" Linux server is a headless box that sits and does it's job nice and quietly
[03:52] <php-freak> says something about some file names need to be shorten cuase of joliet extensinos?
[03:52] <bjames_> and is normally only prodded via SSH or similar for maintenance
[03:52] <alecjw> adaptr: we ccan't sell breezy users to upgarde for another year yet :D
[03:52] <alecjw> we can only tell warty people to upgrade
[03:53] <qos> i ve got a problem with my freshly installed ubuntu. it just hangs during boot process ... does anyone know why this happens? i guess it has something todo with grub ...
[03:53] <adaptr> bjames_: exactly.. and - perhaps contrary to your intuition - you are going to have to *start* there in order to have a swinging chance at getting a *graphical* server to work...
[03:53] <alecjw> qos: does it show a menu?
[03:53] <javimansilla> alecjw: I tried, but seems that I dont have the right repositories, because doing aptitude search lame i got nothing
[03:53] <javimansilla> adaptr: what do you mean?
[03:53] <qos> alecjw, yes ...
[03:53] <adaptr> alecjw: uhm.. why ? is breezy an LTS release then ?
[03:53] <alecjw> javimansilla: do you know how to enable the uni/multiverse repos?
[03:53] <bjames_> adaptr: start from a graphical "Desktop" install?
[03:54] <jbroome> adaptr: breezy isn't a LTS.  Dapper is, so far the only lts
[03:54] <Dicander> sukarn: It still does not work. It says mozilla-dev has no release candidate.
[03:54] <adaptr> bjames_: of course you can do that, but it will need significantly more hardware
[03:54] <Terminus> bjames_: if you want to know what's useful to learn, i'd say learn how to use vi. it's probably the most generally available text editor on a linux box and you'll be using it extensively to edit configuration files.
[03:54] <adaptr> jbroome: I thought I knew that
[03:54] <php-freak> the debug message said something about could not burn due to root?
[03:54] <Dicander> I suppose I could just download it and install it myself.
[03:54] <alecjw> adaptr: it's not been completely discarded yet... only warty has. we can tell hoary people to upgade when feisty's released
[03:54] <javimansilla> alecjw I think yes, but I would say that I did something wrong, because I still can not have this working. can you please help me with that?
[03:54] <php-freak> how do i burn files that are in the root?
[03:54] <bjames_> Terminus: I already use vim to edit config files
[03:54] <alecjw> javimansilla: and are you using ubuntu as in gnome?
[03:55] <sukarn> Dicander: you'll need to do a "sudo apt-get update" before you can inatall mozilla-dev
[03:55] <hexidigital> php-freak::  sudo before your command/
[03:55] <hexidigital> *?
[03:55] <javimansilla> alecjw: xfce
[03:55] <adaptr> alecjw: advising people to upgrade has very little to do with whether it's still supported, in  my view - Ubuntu is heavily under development, and even Dapper will have many advantages over breezy, whether breezy is EOL or not.
[03:55] <php-freak> hexidigital: I'm burning a cd?
[03:55] <hexidigital> php-freak::  what program?
[03:56] <Terminus> bjames_: oh ok.
[03:56] <adaptr> alecjw: "must" upgrade vs. "can and probably should" upgrade
[03:56] <php-freak> k3b dvd & cd burning
[03:56] <hexidigital> php-freak::  *what program are you using?
[03:56] <hexidigital> php-freak::  in terminal, sudo k3b
[03:56] <qos> alecjw, there are 2 harddrives in my computer... i didn't know where to install grub (hd0 or hd1) during installation process ..
[03:56] <alecjw> javimansilla: gksudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list, then add the line deb http://<countrycode (eg gb)>.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[03:56] <qos> alecjw, i think that has something todo with the problem
[03:57] <cybercod> grub gets installed to primary HD
[03:57] <cybercod> hd0
[03:57] <alecjw> qos: presumably (hd0). most BIOSes bott from the first hard drive 1st
[03:57] <ceacro> hello world
[03:57] <MuffY> that ken thomson guy helped me out ^_^
[03:57] <hexidigital> heh... aren't all mcmuffins mcmuffins of doom? high cholesterol ftw
[03:57] <php-freak> hexidigital: what if it says it needs to shorten file naems because of joliet extension, and ask if i want to continue right before i get raedy to burn it?
[03:58] <MuffY> :p
[03:58] <sukarn> adaptr: This is the raid controller of my system (I think) - 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 AHCI/SATA 4-Port Controller
[03:58] <hexidigital> php-freak::  it's worth a shot trying, otherwise you will have to copy the file to a different directory & change the name
[03:58] <MuffY> i recently found out a McMuffin isn't like a normal muffin at all
[03:58] <adaptr> sukarn: okay...
[03:58] <hexidigital> MuffY::  no, it has Mc before it
[03:58] <qos> my primary hd is the one where is only one large data partition (but no ones with OS's n it). on the second one are just OS's
[03:58] <MuffY> it's some kind of mcdonalds sandwich :/
[03:58] <MuffY> yes i know :p
[03:58] <hexidigital> MuffY::  ah :)
[03:58] <alecjw> MuffY: shouldn't that go in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:58] <bjames_> I remember going to Canada once and buying a McMuffin and it had maple syrup in!
[03:59] <MuffY> oh sorry
[03:59] <bjames_> controvertial
[03:59] <LameBMX> did it come with a gun in the bag bjames_
[03:59] <javimansilla>  alecjw: just deb line, or deb-src too?
[03:59] <sukarn> adaptr: but I have no idea whether it needs any arrays to work correctly or not.
[03:59] <alecjw> javimansilla: you can do the deb-src too, but unesss you're actually gonna use the sdources, it's rather pointless
[03:59] <adaptr> sukarn: it should never *need* an array to just access hard drives
[04:00] <LameBMX> sukarn,
[04:00] <adaptr> sukarn: but there could be BIOS options to switch the controller between normal mode and RAID mode
[04:00] <sukarn> ok, but there does seem to be something wrong here
[04:00] <bjames_> adaptr: I'm going to try installing the desktop version on VMware and see how I get on with remote desktop then balance my thoughts and decide what to do, cheers for the help
[04:00] <javimansilla> alecjw: ok, later aptitude update, and let see what happens ...
[04:00] <hexidigital> alecjw::  sorry, that was my fault, not MuffY 's
[04:00] <alecjw> javimansilla: yep
[04:00] <LameBMX> what kind of computer is this .. adaptr im curious if its an OEM computer that set his drives in a fakeraid array for him
[04:00] <LameBMX> :)
[04:00] <alecjw> hexidigital: lol
[04:01] <sukarn> hmm... i'll have to check the BIOS, though I never changed any setting related to HDD in the bios, I only changed the display settings
[04:01] <sukarn> its a PC that I use in my home
[04:01] <LameBMX> sukarn, what kind of PC is this
[04:01] <LameBMX> dell homemade etc
[04:01] <adaptr> LameBMX: it probably isn't an add-on card.. he'd have to know more about it to start with
[04:01] <sukarn> LameBMX: assembled
[04:01] <koyo001> discouraged
[04:02] <qos> alecjw, got it to start ubuntu. but it hangs during boot at "[xxx]  usb 1-2.3 : configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"
[04:02] <sukarn> its built into the motherboard I think
[04:02] <LameBMX> okay so you picked up that parts and built it yourself correct sukarn
[04:02] <koyo001> ive been trying to connect my wireless modem
[04:02] <koyo001> nothing works
[04:02] <cybercod> no luck yet koyo?
[04:02] <koyo001> on my laptop
[04:02] <Maheanuu> sukarn, if you are using a bios setting for raid, then the software raid in dapper cannot be used..  You must do everything from ubuntu, and forget about the softraid that bios wants to set up (or so it seems to me)
[04:02] <koyo001> nop
[04:02] <alecjw> qos: how long does it hang for?
[04:02] <sukarn> LameBMX: not myself, a technician did it about 3 months ago
[04:02] <koyo001> been trying for 2 days
[04:02] <LameBMX> i just dont want you to toy with raid on your new deal on a fakeraid and find out you toasted your windows install
[04:02] <koyo001> thinking about going back to windows
[04:03] <hexidigital> koyo001::  what type of wireless card?
[04:03] <smurf> hi
[04:03] <MuffY> hello
[04:03] <koyo001> its a roadcom 4311
[04:03] <qos> alecjw, since 20 mins ... dont think that it will change
[04:03] <MORTAL> Wii rullz
[04:03] <LameBMX> well id advise checkin with that tech about if he setup a raid array
[04:03] <MuffY> MORTAL: it does=)
[04:03] <sukarn> LameBMX: I have windows installed, but I don't use it. Windows doesn't matter to me.
[04:03] <smurf> how do i install something through apt-get and override my custom configuration with the default one?
[04:03] <koyo001> broadcom
[04:03] <unimatrix9> any one familiar with SLAB?
[04:04] <MuffY> though zelda has been sold out for weeks :(
[04:04] <Maheanuu> I fought over the softraid bios and the softraid from Ubuntu for over 2 weeks
[04:04] <MORTAL> =)
[04:04] <unimatrix9> windows is for games , right?
[04:04] <sukarn> Maheanuu: I am using feisty, not dapper
[04:04] <koyo001> read everything
[04:04] <unimatrix9> :P
[04:04] <hexidigital> koyo001::  you can try my tutorial on www.hexidigital.org , but i use a BCM4318.. however, the tutorial is badly outdated, and some stuff may be unnecessary
[04:04] <tarawa_> anyone seeing firefox 1.8 on edgy break consistently?
[04:04] <koyo001> i tried
[04:04] <unimatrix9> tarawa - might be due to plugins you use..
[04:04] <hexidigital> koyo001::  tutorial is out of date, but it still works
[04:04] <koyo001> it gives me error codes
[04:04] <hexidigital> koyo001::  you used my tutorial?
[04:05] <cybercod> koyo maybe its the drivers you tried to use in ndiswrapper... try getting some from another source
[04:05] <koyo001> i used like4 different tutorial
[04:05] <hexidigital> koyo001::  try mine
[04:05] <LameBMX> k sukarn i was just buttin in for a quick second so you didnt accidently undo a fakeraid array and find something didnt work right lol
[04:05] <javimansilla> alecjw: great man. Thanks a lot, and have a fantastic 2007!
[04:05] <wvrlinux> does anyone know where i can download jass for ubuntu??
[04:05] <hexidigital> koyo001::  what do you have to lose?
[04:05] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, and what was you outcome
[04:05] <koyo001> well alot alot of time
[04:05] <koyo001> and maybe my wife
[04:05] <sukarn> LameBMX: Doesn't seem possible. He only checked that the display was on when he assembled the PC
[04:05] <Dicander> Where does Ubuntu store desktop programs such as democracy player, i.e. is there an equivalent of Applications folder on OSX?
[04:06] <hexidigital> koyo001::  heh... not worth losing a wife :)
[04:06] <LameBMX> ahhh cool cool
[04:06] <Maheanuu> sukarn, you might want to do a read on this  http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO.txt
[04:06] <adaptr> Dicander: all applications are stored under /usr/bin, /usr/lib, and such
[04:06] <koyo001> give me the tutorial site please
[04:06] <sukarn> LameBMX: I really mean it. I found out after bringing the PC home that he had not even connected the HDD to the power supply
[04:06] <koyo001> i will try it
[04:06] <adaptr> Dicander: nothing like the Windows scheme exists, no
[04:06] <sukarn> LameBMX: I did that myself though
[04:06] <LameBMX> like i said i just didnt want you to screw up that .. find out linux isnt installed and windows got broke
[04:07] <sukarn> Maheanuu: Checking the link. Tanks
[04:07] <hexidigital> koyo001::  www.hexidigital.org/broadcom.html
[04:07] <unimatrix9> is there an ubuntu version for the playstation 3? ...
[04:08] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, yea search wiki for fakeraid ...i had to use the long howtoo and the quicky fakeraid edgy one ... and mix them up ...
[04:08] <Maheanuu> No prob's, I had been pulling my hair out for 2 weeks until I finally managed to find the various how to pages for setting up raid, I am building a raid5 array for storing video etc on and need the speed and large space
[04:08] <smurf> how do i install something through apt-get and override my custom configuration with the default one? for exemple... i've changed my apache2.conf file and i want to reinstall apache restoring its default configuration
[04:08] <koyo001> how do i uncomment multiverse
[04:08] <unimatrix9> you most be bold by now...LOL
[04:09] <koyo001> since you did it
[04:09] <koyo001> your probably the best person to inform me
[04:09] <LameBMX> oh yea Maheanuu i remember ya now ... personally for vid work i would have bounced between a couple raid 0's and left the 5th for storage
[04:09] <sukarn> LameBMX and Maheanuu thanks for all this help.
[04:09] <adaptr> smurf: no need to reinstall.. just run dpkg-reconfigure apache2
[04:09] <LameBMX> i readfile from on raid 0 ... writefile to other raid 0 :)
[04:10] <hexidigital> koyo001::  open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor as root, ie. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, and remove the # before universe & multiverse
[04:10] <lord_ceiphas>  i have a problem to teach my edgy eft that my mouse has 12 buttons, not only 9
[04:10] <hexidigital> brb
[04:10] <LameBMX> hey sukarn i wasnt helpin adaptr was helpin ya .. i just butted in for a quick second cuz i saw you didnt know about raid and didnt want ya to toaste something elses
[04:10] <adaptr> lord_ceiphas: you only have 10 fingers...
[04:10] <smurf> adaptr, thanks
[04:10] <lord_ceiphas> ha ha
[04:10] <sukarn> oh yeah, i meant adaptr as well
[04:10] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, but again thats all preference
[04:10] <klaus> hey, i cant get autofs with automounting floppy get work :( any ideas ? seems to be configured right, no errormessages ... status tells me active-mount-points are/usr/sbin/automount --pid-file=/var/run/autofs/_media_floppy.pid --timeout=1 /media/floppy file /etc/auto.floppy
[04:10] <adaptr> sukarn: you're welcome
[04:11] <koyo001> says permission denied
[04:11] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, you way is defiantaly a nice combo of ease and performance and reliability
[04:11] <FrozZ> Hi, I've a Ati Xpress 200 and I go to install Ubuntu. But I've read that Dapper is better than Edgy for install this card. Is it true ?
[04:11] <Maheanuu> how true, Lame...  I just like raid5 over all the others, having been using in under windoze all these yrs
[04:11] <lord_ceiphas> i have 3 thumb-buttons, three main buttons, four wheel-buttons (up-down-left-right) and thwo buttons over and under the wheel. that makes 12
[04:11] <sukarn> now i'll go and check my bios. will take some time as boot process is slow for me right now
[04:11] <hexidigital> koyo001::  you have to use "sudo" before the command
[04:12] <LameBMX> yea ive been softraid 0 for years .. and a couple 250GB's to store junk
[04:12] <qos> my ubuntu hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." Does anyone know a solution?
[04:12] <adaptr> Maheanuu: RAID-5 != speed
[04:12] <hexidigital> !usenames | koyo001
[04:12] <ubotu> koyo001: Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab
[04:12] <LameBMX> yea but its faster than raid1 ...
[04:12] <Maheanuu> Altho, I am just beginning to get my feet wet in the linux world, and will be using a lot of advice from the friendly crowd here at Ubuntu...
[04:13] <hexidigital> Maheanuu::  that's what we're all here for
[04:13] <lord_ceiphas> me too
[04:13] <nelsonuwp> anyone have any luck with ubuntu and dialup?
[04:13] <LameBMX> im learning and tryin help other with what ive learned so far
[04:13] <koyo001> i dont know how to
[04:13] <koyo001> if i did i would
[04:13] <kitsune1> cybercod on?
[04:13] <lord_ceiphas> i had this mouse working completely under fedora, but lost my old xorg.conf *grml*
[04:14] <hexidigital> !sudo | koyo001
[04:14] <ubotu> koyo001: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:14] <Jowi> !dialup | nelsonuwp
[04:14] <ubotu> nelsonuwp: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:14] <IndyGunFreak> lord_ceiphas, is ti a USB or PS2 mouse?
[04:14] <koyo001> yeah sudo i know
[04:14] <koyo001> its the other comment i was refering to
[04:14] <nelsonuwp> Jowi: i did all that but I still cant get anything. I believe I installed the correct driver too
[04:14] <lord_ceiphas> its a bluetooth-mouse, but is recognizes as a usb-mouse... the logitech mx1000 laser
[04:14] <kitsune1> cybercod : OMG Thanks alot m8 its all working now
[04:15] <zOap> what is the terminal command for removing a dir and alle the files and folders in it?
[04:15] <hexidigital> koyo001::  type hexi[TAB]  before you type if you are talking to me, so i see the hilight
[04:15] <koyo001> that comment
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> lord_ceiphas, i've had problems with PS 2 mice being detected properly, but never USB.  Maybe try a PS2 adapter
[04:15] <HawkeV> zOap, rm -rf dir
[04:15] <Maheanuu> When Ubuntu first made it's debut, I watched in awe of its humanitarian goals and ideals...  I started handing out warty discs to everyone I ran into at home, and even made a convert of a nephew who was attending our university and working on a degree in puter science, today he is a linux guru and wouldn't change for anything...
[04:15] <koyo001> hello
[04:16] <zOap> HawkeV, thanks:)
[04:16] <HawkeV> np
[04:16] <lord_ceiphas> IndyGunFreak: yes.. ill put the bluetooth-hub into a ps/2-adapter.... im sure this wont work
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> oh you're running it through a hub
[04:16] <LameBMX> Maheanuu, i was playin around with vista .. and about a week or so ago a saw a vid of beryl ... havnt looked back since lol
[04:16] <zOap> HawkeV, but that won't work for ftp right?
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> lord_ceiphas,  i thought the mouse was directly plugged intot he PC.
[04:16] <koyo001> hexi [TAB]  HELLO
[04:16] <lord_ceiphas> IndyGunFreak: (16:14:57)  lord_ceiphas:  its a bluetooth-mouse, but is recognizes as a usb-mouse... the logitech mx1000 laser
[04:16] <Maheanuu> are there any users in here from the Pac Northwest???  any around the Portland OR area??
[04:17] <HawkeV> zOap, you didn't say it was for ftp, heh
[04:17] <HawkeV> afaik, ftp doesn't support recursive deletion
[04:17] <qos> my ubuntu hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." Does anyone know a solution?
[04:17] <koyo001> not really clear how to do it\
[04:17] <HawkeV> you'll want to use a gui interface for it
[04:17] <HawkeV> but i could be wrong
[04:17] <zOap> HawkeV, no, I thought it would be the same.. but I was arrogantly wrong:D sorry..
[04:17] <LameBMX> but i did have a gentoo install a couple years ago from a nix buddy ... and last summer i made a vector linux aao server for a buddy
[04:17] <Jowi> nelsonuwp, sorry. I do not have much else advice.
[04:17] <nelsonuwp> alright, thanks
[04:18] <koyo001> hello
[04:18] <lord_ceiphas> HawkeV: gftp supports recursive delete
[04:18] <koyo001> did that work
[04:18] <HawkeV> lord_ceiphas, i know that, most graphical ftp clients do
[04:18] <stockfisch> can anyone tell me how i can start a "desktop icon" as super user? i want it to always ask me for the pwd when i double click it
[04:18] <hexidigital> koyo001::  type the letters "HEXI" then press TAB
[04:18] <HawkeV> i was saying i could be wrong about the ftp cli recursive deletion
[04:18] <zOap> lord_ceiphas, it does, but it freezes when it's supposed to delelte folders with alo of subfolders...
[04:18] <HawkeV> things may have changed since the last time i used ftp
[04:18] <HawkeV> zOap, it may not be 'frozen'
[04:18] <koyo001> hexi hello
[04:18] <HawkeV> if there are a lot of sub folders and files
[04:19] <HawkeV> it has to go through ever folder
[04:19] <lord_ceiphas> zOap: depends of the server
[04:19] <HawkeV> catalogue whats there
[04:19] <HawkeV> then delete every file/folder one by one
[04:19] <hexidigital> koyo001::  ok, close enought
[04:19] <koyo001> trying but not working
[04:19] <qos> my ubuntu hangs after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done." Does anyone know why it does so?
[04:19] <zOap> HawkeV, well, I've tried on many servers, the same result...
[04:19] <HawkeV> have you tried on a folder with one file in it?
[04:19] <koyo001> hexidigital: hello
[04:19] <hexidigital> koyo001::  there you go :)
[04:19] <zOap> HawkeV, yes, works fine
[04:19] <koyo001> ok was putting a space
[04:19] <HawkeV> right, then it's just taking time to find out what there is to delete
[04:20] <koyo001> between hexi and tab
[04:20] <matsyes> Hi i have a vaio and i installed ubuntu edgy eft on it ..but the wierdest things happening it works fine when i connect the ac voltage but not when i start it from battery ..however if i start it using ac it works fine and then when i switch to battery it continues to run ...Any suggestions
[04:20] <zOap> HawkeV, well in this particular example I'm trying to delete 223 folders and about 800 files...
[04:20] <koyo001> hexidigital: ok to remove the ## how do i get to them
[04:20] <HawkeV> yeah...
[04:20] <HawkeV> then hit delete
[04:20] <HawkeV> walk away
[04:20] <HawkeV> come back in a month or so
[04:21] <HawkeV> don't expect it to be instant by any means
[04:21] <zOap> haha, well, If I only had ssh rights on the server...
[04:21] <junior22> #btw23
[04:21] <koyo001> hexidigital: to get to the universe and multiverse
[04:21] <HawkeV> zOap, ask your admin to rm -rf the dir =P
[04:21] <hexidigital> koyo001::  type (in a terminal) sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <zOap> HawkeV, yeah, I may have to.. thanks for the help btw:)
[04:22] <hexidigital> koyo001::  then enter your password
[04:22] <HawkeV> np man
[04:22] <hexidigital> koyo001::  brb, i have to restart my server
[04:22] <koyo001> hexidigital: yeah i am there and waiting
[04:22] <matsyes> hi if someone could help me
[04:22] <richee> matsyes: yes
[04:23] <richee> what's the probs?
[04:23] <matsyes> i have a vaio and i installed ubuntu edgy eft on it ..but the wierdest things happening ...it works fine when i connect the ac voltage but not when i start it from battery ..however if i start it using ac it works fine and then when i switch to battery it continues to run ...Any suggestions
[04:23] <unimatrix9> two batteries?
[04:24] <richee> matsyes: could u please describe ur probs more in detail
[04:24] <matsyes> no single battery
[04:24] <richee> matsyes: guess some problem with ur laptop !
[04:24] <chable> hey
[04:24] <chable> happy new yearrrrrrrrr
[04:24] <matsyes> richee: ummm more detail like how
[04:24] <oidia> matsyes: that realy is weird :P
[04:25] <richee> yeah
[04:25] <matsyes> actually the windows is running fine i thought maybe its a lose connection but its not that
[04:25] <oidia> matsyes: haw far does it load?
[04:25] <Maheanuu> what happens when you try to boot from battery only?
[04:25] <oidia> how*
[04:25] <chable> anyone can tell me whats the best partition choice if i want to install ubuntu desktop
[04:25] <matsyes> it goes to sda6 and marks it as clean then just stops loading
[04:25] <johns^> chable: /, /home and swap
[04:25] <nelsonuwp> !dvd
[04:25] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:25] <oidia> matsyes: if you start in "failsafe" (text)
[04:25] <oidia> ?
[04:26] <Jimmey> Anyone know a good, lightweight file browser that's not Nautilus?
[04:26] <unimatrix9> chable any free partition will do , just dont use the windows one if you like to keep it..
[04:26] <chable> johns^, so i will choose manual partitioning
[04:26] <BULLE> Jimmey: konqueror ? =)
[04:26] <alecjw> Jimmey: thuinar. it's included in xubuntu
[04:26] <chable> unimatrix9 :)
[04:26] <alecjw> *thunar
[04:26] <chable> i have an empty hdd
[04:26] <matsyes> Maheanuu:it just stops at sd6 after marking it clean
[04:26] <johns^> chable: you could
[04:26] <chable> and if i choose 'erase entire disk" , i dont have those 8 mbuffer anymore
[04:26] <HawkeV> rox-filer
[04:27] <johns^> chable: a seperate /home is important
[04:27] <unimatrix9> whats the type of the vaio?
[04:27] <HawkeV> konqueror isn't lightweight at all =P
[04:27] <chable> johns^, what size should / be ?
[04:27] <adaptr> chable: how big is the HD ?
[04:27] <matsyes> oldia:if i start in failsafe the "recovery mode"...it yet doesnt work
[04:27] <johns^> chable: one moment
[04:28] <alecjw> Jimmey: for graphical ones: thunar, gnome-commander or rox. if you don't want a grpahical one, midnight-commander.
[04:28] <Maheanuu> matsyes is that viao only set up for linux or is it partitioned also for windoze?
[04:28] <oidia> matsyes: what moddel is it?
[04:28] <oidia> modell*
[04:28] <koyo001> how do i uncheck universe
[04:28] <matsyes> maheanuu:its partioned
[04:28] <koyo001> anyone
[04:28] <johns^> chable: mine is 6,5 GB with tons of stuff installed (including a ltsp root for my network) and I've got 1GB left
[04:28] <matsyes> windows was the first one installed
[04:29] <oidia> matsyes: exaktly what is the modell of the vaio?
[04:29] <chable> adaptr, 80 gb
[04:29] <alecjw> koyo001: in ubuntu (not k/xubuntu), system>>admin>>software sources and uncyheck universe
[04:29] <unimatrix9> gvie some more details on the model of the vaio
[04:29] <adaptr> chable: all for Ubuntu ?
[04:29] <chable> yes
[04:29] <matsyes> the model is pCG-6n6p
[04:29] <e\ectro_> is there a way to speed up NFS mounting in ubuntu?/
[04:29] <adaptr> chable: /: 8 GB, /home: everything else
[04:29] <e\ectro_> for some reason, it takes 40-60 seconds to mount an NFS share
[04:30] <lorenzo_> ragazz
[04:30] <koyo001> alecjw: gonna try that
[04:30] <HawkeV> e\ectro_, is portmap running?
[04:30] <johns^> adaptr: don't forget swap :)
[04:30] <chable> thank you
[04:30] <lorenzo_> mi date unamano?
[04:30] <chable> do i need those 8 mbuffer too ?
[04:30] <adaptr> chable: if you intend to experiment or add more linuxen later, set up a separate /boot of about 100MB
[04:30] <johns^> e\ectro_: install portmap
[04:30] <adaptr> johns^: swap ? who uses swap these days :)
[04:30] <e\ectro_> johns^: /etc/init.d/portmap ?
[04:30] <chable> so i dont need swap ?
[04:30] <HawkeV> /etc/init.d/portmap restart
[04:31] <LDZ420> what is the file name that list the repositories for apt-get?
[04:31] <HawkeV> then remount
[04:31] <e\ectro_> wasnt installed by default
[04:31] <e\ectro_> wow
[04:31] <johns^> e\ectro_: allready installed? then it could be some nameresolving issue
[04:31] <HawkeV> portmap isn't necessarily needed with nfs
[04:31] <klaus> does nobody know how to use autofs to work correctly ?
[04:31] <johns^> chable: you do need swap
[04:31] <HawkeV> it does speed things up tho