[07:18] <sote> never had any issues with Gnome.. love it, but logged in using Cairo Dock at the moment .. it can be glitchy but that is the fun part
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> pnkbst: ratpoison - tiling right? kinda annoying to learn
[07:18] <dr_willis> and try out lubuntu
[07:18] <guide_X> well plus I need something with svn
[07:18] <pnkbst> ratpoison requires you to be a moderate to advanced linux user though, or have lots of time to learn
[07:18] <sote> trial and error makes perfect
[07:18] <dr_willis> i dont see how 'with svn' really applies..  its in the repos.. so every ubuntu variant can have svn
[07:19] <dr_willis> !svn
[07:19] <guide_X> oh because I don't know the terminal svn
[07:19] <dr_willis> i suggesst learning the terminal
[07:19] <guide_X> I need something with svn into the ui
[07:19] <genoobie> ugh
[07:19] <pnkbst> aeon-ltd: the tiling itself doesn't take very long to learn.  it's the rare commands you need to learn like switching wifi connections and mounting usb drives
[07:19] <dr_willis> 'doing development' and 'not wanting to learn the terminal' is like.. wanting to garden.. but not get your hands in the dirt...
[07:20] <dr_willis> its the funnest part
[07:20] <sote> I suggest typing the same questions into a youtube search and watch a video on the topic, there are hundreds
[07:20] <nearst> whats up
[07:20] <guide_X> problem is, I'm already horrible with svn, the terminal only complicates it more..
[07:20] <guide_X> I
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> guide_X: learn git?
[07:20] <pnkbst> aeon-ltd: switching programs is just C-t RET, and running them is C-t ! program
[07:20] <kunji> svn is gross use git
[07:20] <guide_X> I know git, and visual sourcesafe, and nolw I work somewhere with svn, and i'm totally lost with it heh
[07:21] <guide_X> not my choice heh, but I must use it
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> pnkbst: i'm already a dwm user, i don't think the efficiency gains of tiling is worth it, depending on the user
[07:21] <kunji> guide_X: Ah, well then I guess you're stuck with it T.T, I don't really know how to use it
[07:21] <kunji> Personally I don't like tiling much
[07:21] <guide_X> on the old ubuntu box i have something called rabbitcvs or something
[07:21] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: You might check the link that ubottu gave you though. It might have some tutorials on how to use subversion in a terminal.
[07:22] <RigidWig> how can I omit SSH from a tshark command?
[07:22] <nearst> precise-quantal is big different release?
[07:23] <cfhowlett> nearst, different from what?
[07:23] <genoobie> ok
[07:23] <genoobie> it might be bed
[07:23] <guide_X> well hope they figure out the virtual box problem
[07:23] <genoobie> so scotty^ what's the general idea so I can try and implement
[07:24] <guide_X> all they have to do is detect a pc which can't handle the ui
[07:24] <guide_X> oh vbox eh? well disable this stuff...
[07:24] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: I hate saying it probably won't be figured out. The problem isn't going to be on Ubuntu's side. It'll be on Oracle's side. Because Oracle uses specfic hardware for emulation.
[07:24] <guide_X> oh
[07:24] <dgbaley27> I'd like to upgrade a chroot but it's a PITA when the update messes with (starts/restarts/stops) processes on the host system. Is there a clean way to prevent this?
[07:25] <dr_willis> guide_X:  thats the point of llvm - iiits suppost to give a fallback 2d mode
[07:25] <guide_X> does it work better in other vm software?
[07:25] <genoobie> if i change the driver
[07:25] <dr_willis> i only use vbox.. and rarely at taht
[07:25] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: Your mileage may vary.
[07:25] <dr_willis> if im running ubuntu in vbox on my windows machine.. i use Lubuntu
[07:25] <genoobie> i wouldn't be able to change back
[07:25] <guide_X> hmm
[07:25] <nearst> cfhowlett, im now on precise. just thinking to upgrade to quantal. some hardware and software need better kernel to run like ati :(
[07:26] <scotty^> genoobie: Re line 619 - does that file exist in that directory?
[07:26] <PatrickDickey> I'd just use something like lubuntu or xubuntu (or maybe even kubuntu, but probably not).
[07:26] <guide_X> would it work better with a gforce gt610 in vbox? the pc I was failing with all day uses no accelleration
[07:26] <Zoom> hello guys i am newbie i need to know whts the good version for me 12.04 or 12.10..i am developer i want to use ubuntu for developing purpose
[07:26] <guide_X> the pc i'm currently on has the gt610
[07:26] <scotty^> genoobie (on the non-working install)
[07:26] <cfhowlett> !sputnik|Zoom,
[07:26] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: The nice thing about lubuntu or the others is, pretty much anything that installs in ubuntu will install in them.
[07:26] <dr_willis> you did install the  vbox guest addations guide_X  ?
[07:26] <sote> Lubuntu is less feature packed on live cd ? so runs more efficiently ?
[07:26] <rems_> hello
[07:27] <dr_willis> guide_X:  best/fastest would be a full normal instgall...
[07:27] <nearst> Zoom, either will work for developer :)
[07:27] <rems_> how are you all?!
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Zoom, 12.10 would be my suggestion
[07:27] <dr_willis> lubuntu has a decent feature sset.. just not the  eyeandy
[07:27] <guide_X> when I went to install guest tools with vbox, it froze and then never booted again
[07:27] <guide_X> it got stuck at one of the [ ok ] stuff in the beginning
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Zoom, also the dell/ubuntu customized developer version is called "sputnik"
[07:27] <scotty^> genoobie: (on the non-working install)
[07:27] <guide_X> I rebooted a few times and it was just hosed, so I went for a reinstall
[07:28] <PatrickDickey> sote: It's a lightweight version of Ubuntu. Instead of some of the ubuntu applications, it uses others. Like Gnumeric instead of LibreOffice Calc.
[07:28] <guide_X> I am afraid to install the tools now heh
[07:28] <nearst> guide_X, u install expension pack for vbox?
[07:28] <dr_willis> i belive theres a site somewhere that has vbox images also for differnt os's  - but those might  be altereed from a normal ubuntu install
[07:28] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: Actually installing the tools might be a good idea.
[07:28] <sote> guide_x: remove your graphics card and plug it back in... tricks it into thinking it's brand new then try to solve your issues
[07:28] <dr_willis> guide_X:  so install lubuntu-desktop package and see how well it workss
[07:28] <rems_> hey, is there data and general conscience about an increse of the kernal panics with the new ubuntu versions? 12.xx and 11xx too?!
[07:28] <rems_> just to know
[07:29] <guide_X> hmm i'm afraid to heh
[07:29] <rems_> because i experience it with different computers
[07:29] <sote> thanks PatrickDickey
[07:29] <guide_X> are those even made by the same people
[07:29] <dr_willis> guide_X:  you do know you can backup and clone vmware installs?
[07:29] <dr_willis> err vbox instals ;)
[07:29] <guide_X> yeah
[07:29] <scotty^> rems: That data is in launchpad if you use the correct query URI
[07:29] <rems_> so i can't install new versions and can't get the benefice of updates!
[07:29] <cfhowlett> rems_, no hard stats that i know of, but I'd suggest the LTS version to avoid those kind of issues ... for the most part
[07:29] <dr_willis> backup your setup... play with it.. restore it if needed
[07:29] <guide_X> but I hadn't thjought of it all day
[07:29] <guide_X> but I will
[07:30] <guide_X> I think i'll try it on this machine instead
[07:30] <dr_willis> the vbox manual is worth reading also....
[07:30] <guide_X> it has the beefy video
[07:30] <PatrickDickey> guide_X: http://virtualboximages.com/Free.VirtualBox.VDI.Downloads I haven't tried these, nor do I recommend them. But, they're there. And there's an ubuntu 12.10 one.
[07:30] <guide_X> hmm cool
[07:30] <scotty^> genoobie: ????
[07:30] <guide_X> i'll give it a shot
[07:30] <dr_willis> vbox really isent using your video card.. untill you install the guest  addations...
[07:31] <guide_X> hmm ok
[07:31] <ArmoredDragoon> PatrickDickey: apparently the driver is at fault http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/
[07:31] <guide_X> I guess I was afraid to use it after that first time
[07:31] <ArmoredDragoon> PatrickDickey: ubuntu loads the wrong driver
[07:31] <sote> learn from trial and error
[07:31] <PatrickDickey> ArmoredDragoon: Does the site tell you how to fix the problem?
[07:31] <rems_> cfhowlett, yeah?! LTS you say... i'll try it with a livecd
[07:31] <rems_> but i think i tried it
[07:31] <rems_> cfhowlett, 12.04?!
[07:31] <cfhowlett> !LTS|rems_,
[07:32] <rems_> cfhowlett, i tried it, but it was on usb live, could be a prob?!
[07:32] <guide_X> hmm brb, thanks for the help
[07:32] <rems_> ubottu,
[07:33] <cfhowlett> rems_,  usb shouldn't effect kernel performance ...
[07:33] <rems_> ubottu, cfhowlett :  i tried it, but it was on usb live, could be a prob?!
[07:33] <ArmoredDragoon> PatrickDickey: yeah
[07:33] <ArmoredDragoon> PatrickDickey: well, mostly
[07:33] <rems_> lol ubottu
[07:33] <rems_> ah ah :)
[07:33] <rems_> ok cfhowlett
[07:33] <rems_> cfhowlett, hmmm
[07:34] <nearst> gj ubottu
[07:35] <rems_> cfhowlett, i can't install new versions and get the update, i only can use ubuntu 10.xx, from 11.xx, iget a problem :) the same with the new versions of linux mint, etc, debian too
[07:35] <scotty^> genoobie:  That file is not in that diretory on my 12.04 32 bit install, but I don't have an S3 card.  That directory does have drivers for a lot of other cards that I don't have though.
[07:35] <sote> <-- is away from computer
[07:35] <rems_> cfhowlett, do they share something in common? about the kernel or something?!
[07:36] <scotty^> genoobie:  So you might need to copy it there manually
[07:36] <cfhowlett> rems_ what error message do you get on update failure ...
[07:36] <nearst> try with sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[07:37] <cfhowlett> rems_, are you on some funky homebuilt computer with customized hardware or something?
[07:37] <rems_> cfhowlett, nope, with my 10.10 installed, it is said that the version is no longer supported and that i have to upgrade in order to get the update in the future
[07:37] <rems_> cfhowlett, lol, i am on an acer aspire 9920
[07:38] <cfhowlett> rems_, and you're getting kernel panics with multiple distros?  I'd still suspect hardware
[07:38] <rems_> cfhowlett, yes
[07:38] <dr_willis> definatly sounds  like suspect hardware
[07:39] <rems_> dr_willis, cfhowlett : what kind of suspision?! sick CPU?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> rems_, check the OEM site and update everything.  Might be a new bios update or something ...
[07:39] <dr_willis> start with a memtest for a while... thats the easiest test to run
[07:40] <sobersabre> hi. I have added a new hdd 500Gbi (currently located as sdb) into a quantal i686 machine with 4g mem and an old 160Gbi disk
[07:40] <sobersabre> I want to lvm'ize it.
[07:40] <dr_willis> a good dusting and reseating of the ram never hurts ;) unless you zap it with static
[07:40] <SolarisBoy> add it to the pv and extend the vg then the lvm sobersabre
[07:40] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: so you have an existing lvm disk i assume?
[07:40] <sobersabre> question is: what partitions to keep inside the LVM ? any partitions to avoid LVM ?
[07:40] <qasim> how to install .tar files.... when i try to run the command "./configure" it says no such file or directory......... please help
[07:41] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: new disk should have no partitions if so you can wipe the partitiona and add the whole disk
[07:41] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: nope. the current disk is a plain partitioning scheme - /boot, /, /tmp, /var, /home, /aux
[07:41] <dr_willis> qasim:  you extract the  archives (tar is an archive) then you see what it extraccted
[07:41] <scotty^> !tar
[07:41] <dr_willis> qasim:  what are you trying to install exactly?
[07:41] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: ok then are you using lvm anywhere on that system presently?
[07:41] <qasim> i extracted tar files in the home folder
[07:41] <qasim> and then i tried to run the ./configure command
[07:41] <dr_willis> qasim:  so you cd'd into the directory it made?
[07:42] <scotty^> On the command line i think it's untar
[07:42] <dr_willis> qasim:  you hace to be in the source codes directory ;)
[07:42] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: yes. and I don't want to just ADD it, I want to replace the old disk, keep the data on the new one, use it as the main, and then turn the old disk into a backup store.
[07:42] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: gotcha
[07:42] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: I remember there were times when systems had difficulty to boot from LVM<
[07:42] <qasim> i extracted it in the home folder ....so i think there is no  need to change directory..right?
[07:43] <dr_willis> qasim:   why woild you think that?
[07:43] <sobersabre> I mean when /boot was on LVM.
[07:43] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: correct its best to leave boot on a plain ext3/4
[07:43] <dr_willis> qasim:  ./configure is loooking for a file in the current directory... wwhich is NOt located in your home directory.. b ut in the source code directory
[07:43] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: I'm from those who still keep /boot on ext2 :)
[07:43] <SolarisBoy> right on
[07:43] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: so how about swap ?
[07:43] <qasim> oh okay
[07:44] <dr_willis> qasim:  use the ls command to see whats in the directory? :) if theres no 'configure' file... then you are not in the right place
[07:44] <SolarisBoy> mines on ext4 the only real diff is a journal i suppose - sobersabre swap may be lvm
[07:44] <dr_willis> qasim:  what are you trying to compile?
[07:44] <qasim> dr_willis,  thanks
[07:44] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: I think that would be all then :) cool.
[07:44] <qasim> some IP changer
[07:44] <dr_willis> ip chanager?  and whats it supposed to do exactly?
[07:45] <scotty^> qasim:  You want to change the Internet Protocol?
[07:45] <qasim> yeah
[07:45] <qasim> scotty^,  yeah
[07:45] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: all good =) - sobersabre just pvcreate the new disk to mark it as a pv and then vgcreate and lvcreate - then move your system over - i would say rather do a clean install to that LVM root (like name the lvm rootfs or such) and then rsync your home and re-install your packages or whatever order you like i guess ?
[07:45] <dr_willis> what is it supposed to do exactly?
[07:45] <scotty^> qasim:  You realise that your machine will not be able to access the Internet if you do that
[07:45] <qasim> erm
[07:46] <qasim> well
[07:46] <scotty^> qasim:  The networking protocols need to match.
[07:46] <qasim> no idea :(
[07:46] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: b/c of fstab re-edit ?
[07:46] <helmut_> hi
[07:46] <SolarisBoy> fstab would need an edit - so would grub assuming the grub/mbr stays in the same place in your case -
[07:46] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: ^
[07:46] <scotty^> qasim: You have no idea what it does but you still want to compile it?
[07:47] <dr_willis> qasim:  you may gain more benifits by reading up on ubuntu and linux basics and fundamentals. ;)
[07:47] <rems_> cfhowlett, oem website?
[07:47] <dr_willis> because i bet you havent installed the proper developer tools either... yet qasim
[07:47] <qasim> dr_willis,  and scotty^  actually there are certain sites that does not accept my IP there fore i need to change the IP to get access
[07:47] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: so as long as I *remember* to edit the fstab properly (testing it with chroot), and to install the mbr properly, I can move data to the new lvm located partitions, I shall be good.
[07:47] <SolarisBoy> sure
[07:47] <rems_> oh, ok cfhowlett
[07:48] <dr_willis> qasim:   use a proxy or tor.
[07:48] <cfhowlett> rems_, original equipment manufacturer  e.g. Dell, Asus, etc.
[07:48] <dr_willis> qasim:  because i doubt if that app will 'alter your ip' from what they see....
[07:48] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: now - dont take that for as simple as it sounds... just do it all right =) - eg move things over, ensure that grub/fstab point to the proper things
[07:48] <scotty^> qasim:  That's not your IP.  That's your IP address.  BIG difference.
[07:48] <rems_> yeah cfhowlett thanks
[07:48] <qasim> oh
[07:48] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: but in general yes correct you can
[07:49] <scotty^> qasim:  The easiest solution is probably just to use a free web proxy
[07:49] <qasim> dr_willis,  i tried to find any web proxy
[07:49] <sobersabre> SolarisBoy: never underestimate small step-by-step migration path :)
[07:49] <asa> fuck
[07:49] <dr_willis> qasim:  tor should work for you
[07:49] <qasim> but it does not support java applets
[07:49] <qasim> !tor
[07:50] <sobersabre> ok
[07:50] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: =) right on - you'll be fine - in fact it seems you would have a system with one /boot and a standard / on std partitioning and also a / on lvm at the end -
[07:50] <SolarisBoy> sobersabre: so testing should be simple enough
[07:50] <rems_> cfhowlett, thank you! when you mean "update everything", you mean just the bios, right?! i have to install windows now, in order to do it :) ok, i'll try:)
[07:50] <SolarisBoy> so before you *delete* the initial system - test/boot - then youll be cool
[07:51] <kunji> qasim: You could also look into using a regular proxy, but tor is free and I think a better solution.
[07:51] <qasim> dr_willis,  scotty^  please recommend any free proxy web that supports java applets please
[07:51] <kunji> qasim: tor would be better
[07:51] <dr_willis> qasim:  no idea. i cant imagine why they dont support java applets
[07:52] <qasim> kunji,  olrite let me read up over tor and then i will get back to you guys if i faced any problem in installing
[07:52] <qasim> thanks heaps
[07:52] <dr_willis> not used tor in ages
[07:52] <cfhowlett> rems_, the hardware updates, if any, might improve performance.
[07:52] <guideX> hmm it's still slow, but I think it's faster now using the premade virtual machine
[07:52] <guideX> because the tools are installed
[07:53] <guideX> it seems a lot more usable
[07:53] <scotty^> qasim: The first one in a google search is http://www.zend2.com/  but I've never tried it.
[07:53] <qasim> scotty^,  ty..let me chk it
[07:54] <guideX> actually it's pretty fast...
[07:54] <bobafett> is there a common GUI for squid ?
[07:54] <vnc786> scotty^: can u help now
[07:54] <dr_willis> !ebox | bobafett
[07:55] <scotty^> vnc786: What is your motherboard model again?
[07:55] <bobafett> thanks
[07:55] <vnc786> using MB "gigabyte ga-350n" cpu amd dual core and using systemrescue bootable uub
[07:56] <vnc786> it has been shipped 2 weeks ago...
[07:58] <dr_willis> brand new cutting edge hardware. ;)
[07:58] <dr_willis> or has it been out for a while?
[08:02] <mvk> hi guys, i got a Broadcom 43224 wireless wifi card in my system
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> ok
[08:02] <mvk> after a kernel update, i need to run apt-get reinstall bcwm-sources   (exact package name i forgot)
[08:03] <mvk> but it depends on the linux kernel -headers, which need to match the running kernel
[08:03] <dr_willis> !headers
[08:03] <mvk> if i let my system update automatically, and i get a new kernel
[08:03] <mvk> this means, i need to install the latest kernel headers myself (by hand) using an ethernet cable
[08:03] <scotty^> vnc786:  That's  not right
[08:04] <mvk> is it possible to automatically get newer versions of the linux-headers?
[08:04] <scotty^> vnc786: Although if it's that new there might not be a newer BIOS yet.
[08:04] <mvk> (now every time i get a kernel update, my wifi breaks)
[08:04] <dr_willis> mvk: checked askubuntu.com? they may have an answer.
[08:05] <mvk> done, no answer
[08:05] <riz0n> After doing recent updates on my Ubuntu Server, I am getting nag that my /boot is 89% full. What files should I remove to free up space?
[08:05] <dr_willis> seen this asked in here befor also..
[08:05] <mvk> link?
[08:05] <mvk> ahh ok, in this chan
[08:06] <dr_willis> riz0n: how big is  /?
[08:06] <dr_willis> and./boot
[08:06] <mvk> if i would automatically get the latest linux-header package with every new kernel i get, its all fine :)
[08:07] <scotty^> vnc786: Did u mean GA-E350N?
[08:07] <guideX> it's perfectly usable for dev purposes with the guest software
[08:07] <riz0n> The / is 107.83 with 7.4% total in use. /boot must be around 222 megs I guess.
[08:07] <riz0n> ^107.83 GB
[08:08] <dr_willis> riz0n: you can remove old kernels basically
[08:08] <mvk> dr_willis, thanks for the (little) help
[08:08] <guideX> do you know how I can get rabbitcsv, it seems like only rabbit for gedit is available, but for ubuntu 11.04, it had rabbit baked into the gnume ui
[08:08] <mvk> all others.. if you want kernel headers to be updated with your kernel:
[08:08] <mvk> http://superuser.com/questions/215236/automatic-linux-headers-installation
[08:08] <riz0n> So anything not 3.2.0-17
[08:08] <riz0n> I mean -37 heh
[08:08] <Ben64> mvk: thats almost the answer
[08:08] <mvk> yeps
[08:08] <Ben64> mvk: more better answer is --- sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`
[08:09] <dr_willis> yep. keep like the last 2 or 3)
[08:09] <guideX> I could just right click in the folder view, and it had rabbit commands in the menus, like with tortoise
[08:09] <riz0n> Thanks :)
[08:09] <mvk> noo...  Ben64 , if you install linux-headers-generic, you always get the latest linux headers
[08:09] <Ben64> mvk: on some systems, yes
[08:09] <mvk> seriously
[08:09] <riz0n> I always wondered if there really was a purpose to keeping the old kernels around.
[08:09] <Ben64> mvk: my command line works on 100% of systems
[08:10] <mvk> Ben64, i feel like you're making something up ... to show off ur cool linux skills :D
[08:10] <mvk> because that guy of the topic writes 'Those meta-packages keep track of the installed kernel and get updated automagically when a new kernel (and hence a kernel-header) package is available.'
[08:10] <Ben64> mvk: the problem is not every system uses the generic kernel
[08:11] <mvk> Ben64, ok, now you have a good point
[08:11] <mvk> but i seem to: Linux mvkmbubu 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 24 13:15:40 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:11] <Ben64> but if you tried my command line, it'd do linux-headers-generic :)
[08:11] <Ben64> try "echo sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`"
[08:11] <Ben64> to see what it'd do
[08:11] <mvk> all SUPER happy with my Ubuntu (on macbook air 2011)
[08:11] <riz0n> Good night my friends
[08:12] <mvk> ok
[08:12] <Ben64> just a little detail that is often overlooked
[08:12] <Ben64> noticed it when i installed on a 32bit system
[08:13] <mvk> Ben64, on my system it added 'generic' on the packagename
[08:13] <Ben64> yep
[08:13] <mvk> i guess with a low-latency kernel for example, it would add linux-headers-generic-lowlatency
[08:14] <Ben64> or pae
[08:14] <mvk> ok, but there is no metapackage for those kernels
[08:14] <Ben64> ooh, there isn't?
[08:14] <mvk> so you can get the kernel headers updated?
[08:15] <Ben64> there are linux-headers-generic-pae, linux-headers-lowlatency, linux-headers-lowlatency-pae
[08:15] <mvk> Ben64, there is .. linux-headers-lowlatency
[08:15] <liquidmetal> Is it possible to make my linux machine a wifi repeater?
[08:16] <mvk> yeps, so if you would install either of those; you wouldnt have to use your command
[08:16] <mvk> liquidmetal, i think its called a bridge
[08:16] <Ben64> my command would install whichever one it needs
[08:16] <liquidmetal> mvk: okay - let me look that up
[08:19] <liquidmetal> mvk: I'll need two wifi adapters on my laptop for that... so I guess that's not possible
[08:19] <nn0101> hi
[08:19] <cfhowlett> nn0101, greetings
[08:19] <mvk> liquidmetal, if you put youre wifi card into 'adhoc' mode
[08:19] <nn0101> just installed encrypted lvm on 12.10. now when booting it just goes into infinite
[08:19] <nn0101> cfhowlett: howdy
[08:20] <mvk> then you can connect with another machine to trough wifi to the laptop
[08:20] <nn0101> anyone can tell me what's happening?
[08:20] <mvk> liquidmetal,  but then you would need to use ethernet on the laptop
[08:20] <nn0101> i don't get any grub message or anything
[08:20] <cfhowlett> nn0101, hey.  sorry that's totally over my head.  stay in channel ... there're are some pretty clever people here.  Also consider #ubuntu-server
[08:20] <scotty^> liquidmetal:  U can also buy a wifi range extender
[08:21] <liquidmetal> scotty^: yup. Considering that as well.
[08:21] <cfhowlett> liquidmetal, or you can build  DIY extender
[08:21] <nn0101> cfhowlett: right
[08:21] <liquidmetal> cfhowlett: the one with the can?
[08:22] <cfhowlett> liquidmetal, indeed.  I also built a wifi predator ...
[08:22] <Bray90820> so
[08:22] <Bray90820> executing grub-install /dev/sda failed
[08:23] <Fuzzles> Can someone help me, how can i get my Driving Theory Disk working in ubuntu?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, sudo grub-install
[08:23] <Bray90820> from the live disc?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, is it supposed to be run in windows?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, correct
[08:23] <Bray90820> ok
[08:24] <Bray90820> but i should note that i have more then one drive
[08:24] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, Yes when i run it in wine it checks my requirements be fails because its not  windows any way round it?
[08:24] <Bray90820> 2 2TB drives as an LVM and a 40GB drive for the system
[08:24] <Bray90820> so how would i tell it where to install
[08:24] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, you'll need to specify driven then and maybe partition.
[08:25] <Bray90820> it would be my /boot right
[08:25] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, if wine won't run it, you might consider installing windows in a virtualbox and running your program in the box
[08:26] <Bray90820> cfhowlett would it go in my /boot
[08:26] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, Would that work? i mean will it detect that its windows adn work?
[08:26] <liquidmetal> cfhowlett scotty^ mvk, do you think it's possible to have an adsl model+router to act as a repeater?
[08:27] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: what error do you get when you try running it in wine?
[08:27] <texla> Ubuntu-12.04.1 ..I installed to a 16 gb usb flash drive...installed grub-1.99 to sdc...when I press shift to bring up grub menu I get grub loading then it goes to another window
[08:27] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, I'm going to bail as your setup is way more complex than anything I've ever booted.  please ask in channel.
[08:28] <Bray90820> what i am asking is does grub install to /boot
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, virtual box windows should run just as *well* as native installed windows ... lots of people keep an old XP in a box for just such a use.
[08:28] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: as far as running in a virtual machine, yes it would work. Because as far as the disc (or Windows) is concerned, you'll *be* running Windows.
[08:28] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, That the disc says i dont have the requirements such as windows, its not a wine error its what the disc says
[08:28] <Bray90820> Anyone know where grub installs to?
[08:29]  * PatrickDickey has XP in one, Vista in another
[08:29] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, this is a server?  also #ubuntu-server
[08:29] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, PatrickDickey thanks guys what windows version you recommend?
[08:29] <Bray90820> well
[08:29] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, whatever the disk requires
[08:29] <Bray90820> it's the desktop version
[08:30] <Bray90820> but i use it as a server
[08:30] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: whatever the disc requires and whatever you can legally get.
[08:30] <scotty^> liquidmetal: If it's mulithoned (two wifi adaptors), then yes.  Otherwise it will depend on the model of the router and whether the manufacturer included that feature - I doubt it though.  It should be fairly eveident if you login to your router and check the setup pages one by one.
[08:30] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, PatrickDickey, ok thanks i have windows 7 so ill use that
[08:31] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: Sounds good. You can also have wine report that it's running Windows 7.
[08:32] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, what in a VM?
[08:32] <Bray90820> so does anyone know where grub installs to
[08:32] <PatrickDickey> Bray90820: Grub installs to /boot/grub
[08:32] <Auv5> Bray90820: If you're looking for the grub config files, they can be found in /boot/grub.
[08:32] <Auv5> Oops.
[08:32] <Auv5> :P
[08:32] <Bray90820> so it is /boot
[08:32] <PatrickDickey> Fuzzles: No, I mean you can use winetricks to set your Windows Version in Wine. ANd install a few other files that it might need.
[08:33] <Auv5> Yes.
[08:34] <Bray90820> so to manually install grub it would be something such as
[08:34] <Bray90820> sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[08:35] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, is it worth trying a VM first?
[08:36] <timmm> hello Im wondering how to set the screen brightness with setpci
[08:36] <PatrickDickey> How often will you need to use it Fuzzles? that's what will make your decision.
[08:37] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, well as much as i can i guess as im learning to drive
[08:37] <Bray90820> to manually install grub would it be something such as
[08:37] <Bray90820> sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[08:37] <PatrickDickey> Then I'd say yes.
[08:37]  * PatrickDickey that was for Fuzzles
[08:38] <texla> Ubuntu-12.04.1 ..I installed to a 16 gb usb flash drive...installed grub-1.99 to sdc...when I press shift to bring up grub menu I get grub loading then it goes to another window
[08:38] <PatrickDickey> Bray90820: man grub-install will give you the options.
[08:39] <nn0101> does encrypted lvm installation work on 12.10?
[08:39] <Bray90820> ok
[08:39] <Bray90820> i will try it
[08:39] <Bray90820> the worst thing that happens is i have to restore my LVM from a backup
[08:39] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, ok thanks ill try it and ill get back here if i need help thanks
[08:39] <iboB> hey can i set a directory (say ~/myinclude) to be used as a gcc include search path without adding it each time with -I
[08:40] <nn0101> i am starting to to think why my installation won't work even after installing grub on MBR and having unencrypted /boot.
[08:40] <nn0101> (and it's a fresh 12.10 installation! haha)
[08:40] <PatrickDickey> Good luck Fuzzles. If the issues are with Windows itself, we probably won't be able to help out. But if it's with the linux side of things, we should be able to.
[08:40] <nn0101> iboB: -I ~/myinclude
[08:41] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, ok thanks mate
[08:41] <iboB> nn0101, that precisely what i'm trying to avoid
[08:41] <iboB> *that's
[08:43] <nn0101> iboB: C_INCLUDE_PATH/CPP_INCLUDE_PATH
[08:43] <nn0101> iboB: make them your env. variable
[08:44]  * nn0101 checks to see if unencrypted lvm setup work
[08:44] <iboB> nn0101, thanks
[08:45] <Bray90820> sudo grub-install did not work
[08:45] <Bray90820> no command was founf
[08:45] <Bray90820> found
[08:47] <nn0101> Bray90820: did install grub to MBR not work for you? 12.10?
[08:47] <nn0101> s/install/installing
[08:47] <sig-wall> to use grub-install you have to install grub2-pc or grub2-efi package, depending on your hardware platform
[08:47] <nn0101> MBR = /dev/sda (512 bytes of your block device)
[08:47] <Bray90820> 12.04
[08:47] <RigidWig> how can I best find out what's blocking incoming remote smtp/telnet connections to an ubuntu server?
[08:48] <nn0101> Bray90820: grub-install /dev/sda (or whateveR)
[08:48] <nn0101> Bray90820: install to block device if there's no OS
[08:48] <nn0101> other OS
[08:48] <Bray90820> should i put the partition number
[08:48] <Bray90820> there is only ubuntu and an LVM
[08:48] <nn0101> no
[08:49] <nn0101> LVM is a volume mnagement thingy not an OS ;)
[08:49] <Bray90820> i know that
[08:49] <Bray90820> so ubuntu 12.04 is the only os installed
[08:49] <nn0101> is it encrypted?
[08:50] <nn0101> i am trying to understand if i shouldn't use LVM+luks on my 12.10. i think its fucked setup
[08:51] <nn0101> atm, it fails to boot
[08:51] <nn0101> LVM+luks+unecrypted boot partition+MBR on block dev => fail
[08:52] <Noskcaj> nn0101, the report a bug
[08:52] <Noskcaj> *then
[08:52] <dr_willis> jyou need more buzzwords and codes/letters ;)
[08:52] <nn0101> i am just suprised no one's looked into it from ubuntu-dev
[08:52] <Bray90820> grub-install doesn't work
[08:52] <dr_willis> !luks
[08:52] <nn0101> and that such a mianstream distro would let such a bug be present in releases at all
[08:53] <dr_willis> im not even sure what LUKS is. ;) i see so many people in hwere with lvm problems  i stay with the simple old ways
[08:54] <dr_willis> bbl.
[08:54] <Bray90820> well i have no lvm problem
[08:54] <nn0101> if the distros don't support luks, take the freaking option off the debian install. otherwise, if you intend to support it, do it properly!
[08:55] <sindhu_> Hello, anybody around?
[08:55] <nn0101> atm, its ally willy nilly
[08:55] <cfhowlett> sindhu_, only about 1000 or so
[08:56] <bool> Why is Memtest listed in the grub menu? Is it really that much need for testing memory for the regular user?
[08:56] <Bray90820> so grub-install did not work
[08:56] <sindhu_> I am unable to compile empathy from git.gnome.org/empathy master branch in quantal and raring (cloud-images.ubuntu.com vagrant box)
[08:56] <cfhowlett> sindhu_, raring is supported in #ubuntu+1
[08:57] <Auv5> It's awfully fun to say "I'm unable to compile empathy"
[08:57] <cfhowlett> bool, memory failure is common ...
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Auv5, clever
[08:58] <sindhu_> I am not new to command line nor to ubuntu. am an intern with GNOME, am trying to test out empathy for a bug to fix. can somebody help me solve dependencies please?
[08:58] <sindhu_> cfhowlett: thank you, I'll check there for raring related issues.
[08:59] <cfhowlett> sindhu_, might need to take this to empathy support for best results
[08:59] <Bray90820> could i do sudo apt-get install grub
[08:59] <sindhu_> cfhowlett: well, #empathy on irc.gimp.net seems quiet since morning since then I've twice but no response
[08:59] <sindhu_> cfhowlett: am time bound here, hence the asking for help on this channel
[09:00] <cfhowlett> sindhu_, understood
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !ask
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !details
[09:02] <Avedo> Hi there! I've a problem installing qt-components-ubuntu.I already asked for a solution at the #ubuntu-phone channel, but didn't get a reply yet.  If I try to install the package,  It says that some dependencies e.g. libqt5core5 are unmet. I stumbled across this error following the instructions at http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ Could someone provide a solution to this problem?
[09:04] <sindhu_> I'm a problem with compiling Empathy from git.gnome.org/empathy master branch. I'm running Ubuntu qantal (12.10) in Virtualbox using Vagrant and vagrant box quantal64. I get the following error: http://pastebin.ca/2309940 , I have already gotten build-dep stuff for empathy
[09:04] <sindhu_> I have* a problem I meant
[09:07] <auronandace> sindhu_: did you read what it said about the telepathy-logger package?
[09:08] <sindhu_> auronandace: Yes I did, I have tried a apt-get install libtelepathy-logger-dev
[09:09] <sindhu_> apt-get says its already in the newest version (which means it's installed) auronandace
[09:09] <auronandace> sindhu_: the dev packages are not newer, they just contain whats needed for development (headers and whatnot)
[09:09] <sindhu_> I also have telepathy-logger-0.6.0 in raring but I get the same error message
[09:09] <sindhu_> auronandace: what do you suggest I do?
[09:10] <auronandace> sindhu_: of course you get the same error, it says you need 0.8
[09:11] <sindhu_> auronandace: Oh I see, will compiling telepathy-logger from http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-logger/telepathy-logger-0.8.0.tar.bz2 do?
[09:11] <dr_willis> so new its not  in rareing. ;)
[09:12] <auronandace> sindhu_: i suppose so, but compiling stuff really should be a last resort
[09:12] <dr_willis> at least try to make a .deb of the newer. so its easier to remove.. there might be ppa's out for it also. that would be a better plan
[09:12] <juk> why apt-get hangs on install/update, goes up to 50% and freezes
[09:12] <juk> says 'waiting for headers'
[09:13] <rm200910> hello. can the alt-tab behaviour of Unity be changed to be the same as the gnome2 behaviour?
[09:13] <sindhu_> auronandace: because I don't think there's one for ubuntu, there's an RPM deb as I can see from google search
[09:13] <dr_willis> rm200910:  the ccsm config tool for compiz has alternative alt-tabing plugins and lots of settings..  you may want to play with them
[09:13] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[09:14] <auronandace> sindhu_: rpm is entirely different to deb, there is no such thing as a rpm deb
[09:14] <rm200910> thanks dr_willis . I will have a look
[09:14] <sindhu_> auronandace: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpkgs.org%2Fdownload%2Ftelepathy-logger-devel(x86-64)&ei=6NgMUdPYBMnNrQeD4YHoBw&usg=AFQjCNGbHXz7dELA3PrbIF6RiEuFYn6dcQ
[09:14] <sindhu_> auronandace: err http://pkgs.org/download/telepathy-logger-devel(x86-64)
[09:14] <bipul> Any one know how to calculate timestamp ?. http://pastebin.com/UeWTHDWb
[09:14] <sindhu_> auronandace: oh sorry I was mislead by the webpage's title
[09:15] <sindhu_> sindhu_: am not familiar with RPM systems
[09:15] <sindhu_> err auronandace am not familiar with RPM systems
[09:15] <sindhu_> thanks
[09:18] <dONALD> hi people
[09:18] <dONALD> anyone knows stuff about ubuntu customization kit?
[09:19] <dONALD> I have a few errors
[09:19] <dr_willis> i know 12.04+ broke a lot of them :)
[09:20] <dONALD> when the program tries to upgrade the kernel, it says it cannot open casper-functions
[09:20] <dONALD> it broke a lot of what?
[09:20] <auronandace> bipul: i've seen you ask some very odd questions without any context whatsoever, how can anyone help you if they have no idea what you are attempting to do?
[09:20] <dONALD> sorry, english is not my natural language
[09:21] <dr_willis> when 12.04 came out - a lot of theold customization  programs and remastering tools and guides  no longer worked....
[09:21] <dr_willis> pay attention to the date of any guides you are following
[09:22] <dONALD> I do not follow any yet, I did not needed it
[09:22] <nn0101> device.map's fucked
[09:23] <bipul> auronandace, I want's to calculate Timestamp for my CPU.  i.e Timestamp=Cycle/frequency. It is related to CPU cycle counter.
[09:23] <nn0101> i chuck in the same usb, and 12.10 boots fine
[09:23] <nn0101> time to fix that
[09:23] <auronandace> bipul: then you should say that when you first ask your question
[09:23] <dONALD> anyway... uck doesn't seem to find the script called casper-functions
[09:23] <rm200910> dr_willis: I have the ccsm panel and I'm overwhelmed by the number of options to configure. Where to change the alt-tab behaviour?
[09:24] <rm200910> I'm using 12.04 "precise"
[09:24] <dr_willis> rm200910:  no idea. theres like 3 differnt alt tabbing type plugind with dofferent looks.
[09:24] <dr_willis> and im not on a ubuntu box where i can look
[09:25] <dr_willis> i recall 2 being enabled.. one on alt-tab one on super-tab
[09:25] <dr_willis> and like 2 others not enabled at all
[09:25] <rm200910> dr_willis: would it be part of the "unity plugin" ?
[09:25] <dr_willis> try the seaarch feature of  the app.. see if you can find whats bound to alt-tab
[09:26] <dr_willis> rm200910:  nope i dont think so
[09:26] <dr_willis> since you can alt tab without unity. ;)
[09:26] <bipul> auronandace, i have already given the detail's in pastebin.
[09:26] <sote> ok while i'm in ccsm, what do I untick to stop windows sticking to each other
[09:26] <Bray90820> face palm when i was installing ubuntu i accidentally selected the LVM as the bootloader location
[09:26] <the8thbit> Hello. When I run certain software, I get the error "ALSA output error (snd_pcm_open): No such file or directory", and another for input. I suspect this is because I spilled tea on my onboard soundcard and I have to use a usb soundcard, but ALSA is still trying to use my onboard card. How do I figure out if this is the case and change my default soundcard?
[09:27] <dr_willis> the8thbit:  try that pavuchooser app yet? or was it pavucontrol  ..
[09:28] <dr_willis> !info pavucontrol
[09:28] <dr_willis> i use that one to switch btween my  hdmi or analog audio
[09:28] <the8thbit> Nope, I'll try it out. Thanks, dr_willis.
[09:29] <sote> ahh wobbly windows un-tick snap inverted! tries that
[09:30] <dr_willis> wobbly windows = fun for about 30 seconds
[09:30] <sote> much easier :)
[09:30] <sote> amor is fun too
[09:30] <the8thbit> Ah, is 'output' different from 'playback'?
[09:30] <sote> time wasting fun
[09:30] <droidboi> flash is not working in firefox with youtube. I installed 12.10 yesterday. Any ideas?
[09:31] <dr_willis> droidboi:  several peole have been complaining of flash issues today..   personally i use  youtube flash downloader plugins to watch the videos.. or a flash-replaccer plugin that plays them in  vlc
[09:32] <dONALD> ehh I know what the problem is
[09:32] <the8thbit> Perhaps this card does not have the capability for output , but it does for playback?
[09:32] <dONALD> probably
[09:32] <dr_willis> playback = output to me... but im not on m y pc to look at the app
[09:32] <sote> desktop keeps flickering, sometimes saying compiz has crashed but it still seems to be working.. guest Cairo Dock don't like my pc .. Gnome likes it tho,.. o/  back later
[09:33] <kunji> I like youtube-dl for getting the youtube videos ^_^
[09:33] <dONALD> before the updates, it needs some additional packages
[09:34] <dr_willis> its amazeing how nicer and speedier many sites are with flash disabled....
[09:34] <droidboi> dr_willis: "youtube flash downloader plugins" doesn't mean much to me. What do I have to do?
[09:34] <theadmin> So I installed Ubuntu using automatic partitioning once in a while, now I only have /dev/sda1 for my ext4 root and /dev/sda5 for swap. Where'd the other 4 go? :/
[09:34] <dr_willis> droidboi:  look for some firefox plugins to download flash videos
[09:35] <droidboi> ok doc
[09:35] <dr_willis> theadmin:  you dont have to make 4 primary partions.. th first Logical partion is sda5
[09:35] <theadmin> dr_willis: Ah, so it made an extended somewhere... I better fire up gparted to look at the mess it made properly
[09:35] <dr_willis> sda2 is technically a 'extended' partition thats holding sda5
[09:36] <dr_willis> 1 primary an the rest in extended is how its done it for ages
[09:36] <erupter> hi guys. is there a way I can launch something (either script or program) from a machine, and have this launch other processes on a range of remote machines? what's the easiest way?
[09:37] <dr_willis> erupter:  ssh will be your friend ;)
[09:37] <dr_willis> !ssh
[09:37] <theadmin> ..so it gave me a 5.89GB swap. How does it come up with that number...
[09:37] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i think it looks at the phase of the moon and the zodiacs.... ;)
[09:37] <theadmin> Crazy thing, I'll partition manually the next time
[09:37] <droidboi> dr_willis: Shockwave Flash is installed
[09:38] <kunji> erupter: Or, if you're looking for more of a parallel execution sort of setup you should look at MPI
[09:38] <nn0101> dr_willis: lvm is actually quite nice.
[09:38] <erupter> dr_willis, ubottu I know what ssh is and I'm using it right now. what I have to achieve is automatic multiple machine process launching. so the thing I would need should open x ssh shells automatically, and attempt to launch processes there.
[09:38] <theadmin> dr_willis: Given 6GB RAM, I suppose it tried to make swap = RAM but some limit stopped it.
[09:38] <erupter> kunji, message parsing interface?
[09:38] <dr_willis> nn0101:  yea. Im biased against fancy things.. because i sit in here all day and see the dozens of  the miniority that have issues with those things
[09:38] <kunji> erupter: yeah, ssh with cron would be easier though
[09:38] <dr_willis> theadmin:  i would think it woul dbe   ram+ a little bit more
[09:39] <dr_willis> erupter:  i recall some multi-ssh tools in the repos
[09:39] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well, no matter how you look at it, 5.89 is less than 6.
[09:39] <erupter> kunji, no fancy message parsing, I could do that with zeromq easy enough, but I'd rather use something stupid if possible.
[09:39] <erupter> I only need to start 1 command on a range of machines
[09:39] <nn0101> dr_willis: oh yes. definitely.
[09:39] <dr_willis> erupter:  with the keyless auth.. you coulld write a bash script to do that. ;)
[09:40] <kunji> erupter: Yeah, go with cron for scheduling and ssh to actually make the connection and execute with keyless auth
[09:40] <Tyson__> hello
[09:40] <erupter> dr_willis, already using passwordless auth, remote user is the same on each machine so one auth is enough. care to elaborate on how that script would look like?
[09:40] <erupter> kunji, I can't do no scheduling it's not deterministic. it's launched from another process
[09:40] <dr_willis> erupter:  i reall from the ssh docs/books a way to ssh and run a command.. no need for any interactive user
[09:41] <Tyson__> i need help
[09:41] <dr_willis> i forget the syntax
[09:41] <kunji> erupter: Oh, then you don't even need cron ^_^
[09:41] <Tyson__> am i able to run .exe files with ubuntu?
[09:41] <dr_willis> erupter:  i got a ubuntu-remote app on my phone that does it ;)
[09:41] <dr_willis> !wine | Tyson__
[09:41] <nn0101> dr_willis: this is what 12.10 (lvm+luks) does in default installation mode. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1069856
[09:42] <nn0101> specifically it fucks up grub
[09:42] <Tyson__> ok and what about java programs such as Minecraft?
[09:42] <nn0101> and device.map
[09:42] <theadmin> Tyson__: Java runs natively.
[09:42] <Tm_T> nn0101: language please
[09:42] <theadmin> Tyson__: I play Minecraft all the time, it runs even better than on Windows.
[09:42] <Tyson__> ok well ive tried it before it never works for me
[09:43] <ziyadb> Hey guys, where is the update-rc.d file located?
[09:43] <nn0101> Tm_T: it's not an offense where i am.
[09:43] <theadmin> Tyson__: Get minecraft.jar from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar and run it with OpenJDK (make sure it's installed first)
[09:43] <nn0101> Tm_T: maybe it is to you.
[09:43] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  try 'which commandname'
[09:43] <ziyadb> Oh, it's not a file, it's a command.
[09:44] <nn0101> five year olds
[09:44] <nn0101> haha
[09:44] <theadmin> nn0101: This channel is meant to be family friendly. Follow the rules or leave.
[09:44] <Tyson__> ok i will do wen i install
[09:44] <nn0101> settle down man
[09:44] <Myrtti> nn0101: you are in this channel and you are asked not to use it.
[09:44] <Tyson__> im using window at the moment
[09:44] <ziyadb> dr_willis: thank you!
[09:44] <nn0101> no need to be all jumpy
[09:44] <dr_willis> !upstart | ziyadb
[09:44] <Tm_T> nn0101: please familiarise yourself with the channel topic and its links, if you like to discuss the rules further join us in #ubuntu-ops but not here
[09:45] <nn0101> Tm_T: i've been in this channel longer than you're born
[09:45] <shieh> my synaptic package manager language changed to chinese.how can i fix it?
[09:45] <nn0101> so i know the rules exactly.
[09:45] <Tyson__> whats the difference with the FPS than windows?
[09:45] <theadmin> Tyson__: There should be no difference. Minecraft is not a Windows app, it's a Java app so it runs the same anywhere.
[09:45] <dr_willis> Tyson__:  it can depend on to many things.
[09:46] <ziyadb> dr_willis: yep, thank you! Reading.
[09:46] <dr_willis> Tyson__:  whats your video card?
[09:46] <ziyadb> dr_willis: though that presented me with a new issue, update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/openerp-server: file does not exist
[09:46] <Tyson__> intel
[09:46] <theadmin> Tyson__: Mine runs at around 50 FPS most of the time it would seem.
[09:46] <serp_> Tm_T be flexing his op muscles
[09:46] <Tyson__> its a 5yr machine
[09:46] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  perhaps its managed by upstart
[09:46] <Tyson__> on window mine runs 20 fps
[09:46] <Tyson__> at 70 percent cpu
[09:47] <dr_willis> intel should be very problem free... ;)
[09:47] <theadmin> Tyson__: Well, you have a horrible graphics card and you did say the machine is old. But well, expect the same performance as on Windows, maybe slightly better, that's all I can say
[09:47] <ziyadb> dr_willis: and how do I figure out if it is?
[09:48] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  look in /etc/init/
[09:48] <Tyson__> ok, well it aint all too bad i guess i still get a decent frame rate but still
[09:48] <dr_willis> 20fps is decent? guess it is for minecraft  ;)
[09:48] <irccrusher> File:///
[09:48] <Tyson__> haha
[09:48] <irccrusher> amidoingitrite???
[09:48] <ziyadb> dr_willis: hmm, no .conf file exists for this specific application. But I recall there being one in another directory..
[09:48] <Tyson__> sometimes i get 50
[09:49] <shieh> dr_willis : my synaptic package manager language changed to chinese.how can i fix it?
[09:49] <Tyson__> that when its running alone without anything else running at all
[09:49] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  in any other dir would not be a upstart config file for that service ;)
[09:49] <Tyson__> like virtually nuthing
[09:49] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well Minecraft is a resource hog, it needs 1G RAM at minimum, and you really need a decent GPU for it. Intel... seriously doesn't cut it
[09:49] <rick__> I have an issue with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. The panel disappears when I click on the Halt button. Even if I use the one in the System menu, the same thing happens. So I have to use Terminal to shut down
[09:49] <dr_willis> in a totally dark  cave witth no lights.. you get 25 fps? ;)
[09:50] <theadmin> rick__: The desktop version of Hardy isn't supported anymore. Please upgrade.
[09:50] <Tyson__> i have 2gb ram
[09:50] <Tyson__> i am able to run 64 bit system on the machine
[09:50] <Tyson__> with nearly no hassle
[09:51] <ziyadb> dr_willis: so how do I fix this?
[09:51] <theadmin> Tyson__: No need to worry then, heh. Ubuntu generally performs better than Windows so you may expect a speed increase with most tasks you do.
[09:51] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  i know nothing of that service. so i dont know what you are trying to do
[09:52] <ziyadb> dr_willis: I want to make it run on startup. That's all.
[09:52] <ziyadb> It works and stuff, openerp-server command.
[09:52] <Tyson__> ok. and does linux/ubuntu have skype?
[09:52] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  and how did you install that service?
[09:52] <ziyadb> which openerp-server returns usr/local/bin/openerp-server
[09:52] <theadmin> Tyson__: Yes, it's in the repositories (Software Center)
[09:52] <ziyadb> It had a setup.py in the app directory.
[09:52] <Tyson__> ok
[09:53] <theadmin> Tyson__: So you can install it with one click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/skype
[09:53] <Tyson__> ok
[09:53] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  check their docs they may have info on making a upstart.conf for it.. or  a script in / etc/init.d/
[09:53] <Tyson__> My other machine is beast :) i get 200 fps at least
[09:53] <dr_willis> ziyadb:  or just start it from  /etc/rc.local
[09:53] <theadmin> Tyson__: That's too fast, lol
[09:53] <Tyson__> na
[09:54] <shieh> dr_willis:haven't answer?
[09:54] <dr_willis> shieh:  Huh?
[09:54] <shieh> dr_willis : my synaptic package manager language changed to chinese.how can i fix it?
[09:54] <dr_willis> no idea...
[09:54] <Tyson__> its a modified Machine my cuzin made for me
[09:54] <ziyadb> dr_willis: alright, I'll try to figure it out. Thank you! For real.
[09:54] <fr0ggie> If youtube or other flash stuff on chrome gives "Couldn't load plugin" the fix is at https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/chrome/PEgELQH5zcg/c5lHKwslBcwJ -- basically rm -r ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash/
[09:54] <Tyson__> except i havnt had a screen for a while
[09:54] <fr0ggie> This was broken today by a chrome update
[09:54] <Tyson__> so this is the computer im using
[09:54] <fr0ggie> Seems to affect debian and ubuntu
[09:55] <dr_willis> fr0ggie:  post that on askubuntu.com   :) and put a big star on it   :)
[09:55] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: cant-- just observed, searched, found and applied fix on my box and thought i'd share
[09:56] <dr_willis> wonder if chromium browser and firefox also suffer the same issue
[09:56] <fr0ggie> so far confirmed with a few other people on irc that it indeed fixes it
[09:56] <theadmin> fr0ggie: That's best posted to the forums or something. IRC is to volatile, nobody will search for this message, they'd just ask again and nobody will even remember this
[09:56] <fr0ggie> theadmin: Someone else can post it
[09:57] <fr0ggie> i figured i'd pass it along to others who can post it
[09:57] <theadmin> dr_willis: Nah, both work fine. Google provides it's own Flash plugin which may have bugs
[09:57] <Tyson__> here is my computer stats: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T5450 166 ghz, Instaled Memory 2GB Ram, Running a 64 bit system
[09:57] <dr_willis> so we finally figured out that the chromium-browser does not use the same flash as google-chrome?
[09:57] <Tyson__> sorry 1.66 ghz
[09:57] <fr0ggie> Here's detailed info https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=173790#c31
[09:57] <Tyson__> duo core
[09:57] <dr_willis> someone was asking that the other day in here
[09:58] <fr0ggie> And chromium im pretty sure uses system flash player
[09:58] <fr0ggie> chrome://flash will tell you for sure
[09:58] <theadmin> dr_willis: Chromium browser doesn't have built-in Flash, it uses whatever NPAPI provides (normally installed by flashplugin-installer), Google has it's own Flash player (Pepper) which is shipped with Chrome.
[09:58] <fr0ggie> Flash plugin	<IP_ADDRESS> /home/nn/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash/<IP_ADDRESS>/libpepflashplayer.so
[09:58] <fr0ggie> Flash plugin	11.2 r202 /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so (not used)
[10:03] <Tyson__> Another question
[10:03] <Tyson__> is linux harder to hack or get viruses?
[10:04] <Tyson__> or is that only mac ?
[10:05] <kunji> Relative to Windows you mean?  Both are more difficult.
[10:05] <Tyson__> i mean with the difference
[10:05] <Tyson__> Like is it harder to hack a linux machine than a microsoft one?
[10:05] <kunji> yes
[10:06] <Tyson__> ok
[10:06] <fr0ggie> wtf
[10:06] <Tyson__> and are linux machine actually used for hacking? is that why they use it?
[10:06] <fr0ggie> oh nm.. just realized which chan im in :)
[10:07] <Tyson__> lol
[10:08] <fr0ggie> some of us have never used windows, but the few times i've seen and touched it-- it pissed me off
[10:08] <Tyson__> finally half downloaded!
[10:09] <fr0ggie> Cool, you will be happy to get away from windows.
[10:09] <nn0101> lol
[10:09] <fr0ggie> Welcome to the light side!
[10:09] <Tyson__> really?
[10:10] <ziyadb> dr_willis: ping :)
[10:10] <nn0101> pang
[10:10] <ziyadb> dr_willis: found a provided init script included in the app directory. Except it errors out at . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions <- not found.
[10:11] <Tyson__> i really think i have a bug in my machine at the moment with windows :/
[10:11] <Tyson__> The mouse auto clicks at random times
[10:11] <nn0101> Tyson__: you means windows is a bug?
[10:11] <Tyson__> and when i right click it left clicks
[10:12] <fr0ggie> Tyson__: thats just windows
[10:12] <dr_willis> you got the mouse upside down
[10:12] <Tyson__> and when i looked at my processes there was a program unknown to me
[10:12] <Tyson__> it was vbs
[10:12] <Tyson__> vbs.exe
[10:13] <fr0ggie> sounds like you have worms
[10:13] <Tyson__> yes i think so
[10:13] <fr0ggie> but you are downloading the deworming pill now lol
[10:13] <fr0ggie> most windows machines are infected
[10:13] <Tyson__> my antivirus didnt even pick it up
[10:13] <Tyson__> one i actually paid for
[10:13] <dr_willis> you shouldent rely on just one. ;)
[10:14] <Tyson__> no i dont
[10:14] <fr0ggie> it infected the antivirus, now when it scans, it infects files too
[10:14] <Tyson__> i have threatfire too
[10:14] <nn0101> Tyson__: don't worry about it. i had windows oem, removed the sucker and installed ubuntu
[10:14] <Tyson__> brb
[10:17] <Tyson__> 482 out of 753
[10:18] <Tyson__> why in hell does this show our ip's?
[10:18] <dr_willis> becasue it dosent really matter? or perhaps because  IRC is decades old
[10:18] <dr_willis> !cloak
[10:18] <TheGrey> o/ Is someone wants to remove pulseaudio should they remove the libraries for it to?
[10:19] <dr_willis> and i mean literally... IRC has been around since  like  1987
[10:19] <fr0ggie> 1991 or so
[10:19] <Tyson__> ye
[10:19] <fr0ggie> RFC was 1993
[10:19] <dr_willis> I  did irc in college.. and that was from 1986  to 1990
[10:20] <dr_willis> but it was brand new. ;)
[10:20] <tester> hello, is it possible to hibernate without error messages being shown? (I mean is there an option to disable error messages being shown? (without installing any other hibernate methods)
[10:20] <Tyson__> se i cant even swap tabs on my browsers
[10:20] <dr_willis> i even irc'd on the old green-bar printing terminals...
[10:20] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: idk RFC 1459 is dated iirc 1993 and irc was only 3 or 4 years old at that point
[10:20] <Myrtti> guise... Ubuntu support
[10:21] <dr_willis> fr0ggie:  guess i was cutting edge. ;)
[10:21] <Space-Duck> I'm currently running Mint 14 and I want to switch to Ubuntu... Can I install ubuntu without wiping out my /home directory (it's on it's on partition)? If so, how?
[10:22] <fr0ggie> sadly i at one point had literally all the IRC rfcs memorized, as i wrote irc to global village (now long extinct phone chat protocol) gateway
[10:22] <dr_willis> Space-Duck:  use the custome/somthing else option in the installer
[10:22] <fr0ggie> Anyways, its sleep time-- hope my chrome post helps some folks
[10:22] <dr_willis> fr0ggie:  ;) i was doing good just  to compile irc  (the client) on the sun systems we were using...
[10:22] <fr0ggie> Remember that's rm -r ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash
[10:22] <alFReD-NSH> Hi, I'm trying to install new Ubuntu(12.10) on my old(12.10 again, but broken), but the USB doesn't boot and hangs on the splash screen. I've already asked it on askUbuntu with as much as details I could find. http://askubuntu.com/q/250482/32034
[10:23] <Space-Duck> dr_willis: do I just tell it to install to the /ext4 partition... and it'll overwrite mint?
[10:23] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: Heh sunos makes me throwup in my mouth a little every time i see it still in use ;)
[10:23] <dr_willis> Space-Duck:  yes. you want to format /   but not /home
[10:23] <dr_willis> Space-Duck:  best to make backups first. in any case
[10:25] <dr_willis> and add your user back with the same name. ;)
[10:25] <dr_willis> i hope you dident use an encrypted home also...
[10:29] <Tyson__> what games can u play on linux?
[10:30] <fr0ggie> there's a bunch
[10:30] <fr0ggie> but ps3 is for games, computers are for productive things :P
[10:30] <iceroot> Tyson__: have a look at steam on the linux-section
[10:30] <dr_willis> !games
[10:30] <Tyson__> like could i install oblivion?
[10:31] <dr_willis> Tyson__:  you got a beefy system? ;)
[10:31] <dr_willis> not all windows games will work.. not all steam games are ported to linux stteam..
[10:31] <dr_willis> you can also try windows steam in linux via wine.
[10:32] <kepler> they have steam for linux
[10:32] <fr0ggie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEKVl-XtOP8&list=UUBE-FO9JUOghSysV9gjTeHw&index=23 sooo cute
[10:32] <dr_willis> !steam
[10:32] <fr0ggie> Nixie shows good open source games on linux
[10:33] <funky1> hi guys, a got a question, uuid is a specific to a hdd, but when i take the hdd out of system one and put it into another computer, should the uuid be the same or not?
[10:34] <dr_willis> uuid is specific to a filesystem on the hd.
[10:34] <dr_willis> and it will stay the same
[10:34] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: Bad news!
[10:34] <dr_willis> !uuid
[10:34] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: Stupid pepperflash keeps coming back
[10:34] <funky1> dr_willis: are you sure?
[10:34] <dr_willis> yes
[10:34] <funky1> dr_willis: thanks a lot :)
[10:34] <dr_willis> only time ive seen uuids change is if you resuize the filesystem.. and even then it dosent always changve
[10:35] <dr_willis> you can chanve the uuid via the  tune2fs command i recall
[10:35] <Lynx> Cub
[10:35] <Cub> lol
[10:35] <Cub> hey does anyone know how i can install the gnome 3 desktop on ubuntu 12.10?
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> guys, i'm lost myself now - my ubuntu won't connect - i'm in windows now, same lappie - /etc/network/interfaces looks ok - resolv.cannot be changed - what else to check ?
[10:35] <funky1> ok didn't want to change, just need to ID drives and wanted to make sure before starting, thanks again
[10:35] <dr_willis> cub you mean gnome-shell? its in the repos/package manager tools
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> guys, i'm lost myself now - my ubuntu won't connect - i'm in windows now, same lappie - /etc/network/interfaces looks ok - resolv.conf cannot be changed - what else to check ?   <-- correction
[10:36] <erupter> is there a way I can cut&paste *lines* from files using the terminal?
[10:36] <Cub> im not sure, i just want the desktop environment that ships with fedora
[10:36] <Cub> and from what i gathered that is the gnome 3 one
[10:36] <dr_willis> erupter:  theres some clipboard utilities for the cli
[10:37] <dr_willis> erupter:  or you can automate text editing via awk, sed, perl,, or other scripting languages
[10:37] <dr_willis> cub gnome-shell is a shell on top of gnome-3
[10:37] <dr_willis> unity is also a shell on top of gnome-3
[10:37] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[10:37] <Cub> okay it's all confusing for me
[10:37] <Cub> ah ok
[10:37] <dr_willis> nothing confuseing to it...
[10:37] <erupter> dr_willis, it's a one time shot hopefully, or very seldom used. automating is beyond point. fact is would something like the following  work
[10:37] <dr_willis> its just a desktop thats  uses gnome-3
[10:38] <dr_willis> !gnomeshell
[10:38] <dr_willis> hmm.. wonder what that factoid is
[10:38] <Cub> ..
[10:38] <dr_willis> !info gnome-shell
[10:38] <washuu_de> Cub: if you want the X11 feeling with 12.10. I'm all listening. The day I am told how not to have to cope with unity.. I switch to 12.10
[10:38] <dr_willis> there ya go ;)
[10:38] <erupter> dr_willis, head -20 myfile | tail -10 > myfile2 ? this should put the lines 11 through 20 from file1 into file2, but what if I want to put those lines starting from, say, line 33 of file2?
[10:39] <dr_willis> washuu_de:  huh? that barely made sence.. but you can easially install other desktops
[10:39] <decci> Hi Guys
[10:39] <dr_willis> erupter:  head and tail both have some extra optiuons i recall..  i belive  you can  select single lines... and a range
[10:39] <decci> I am unable to see compellent SAN box while installing Ubuntu 12.04.1 on SAN directly
[10:39] <Cub> okay i'll try installing that
[10:39] <dr_willis> head +10 -20
[10:40] <dr_willis> i sseem to recall... ;) been ages since i last had to do it
[10:40] <Cub> i finally upgraded my machine.... so unity works good, but i just like the otherr shell more :)
[10:40] <Cub> it should add a entry on the login screen correct/
[10:40] <washuu_de> i just dislike unity. the gnome desktop is fine for me.
[10:40] <dr_willis> cub it dies
[10:40] <dr_willis> doe
[10:40] <dr_willis> does
[10:40] <dr_willis> washuu_de:  you mean gnome-shell?
[10:40] <erupter> dr_willis, yes I can do that, do you know of a way to put the output somewhere in another file? if I do head&tail > file, it overwrites file.
[10:41] <dr_willis> erupter:  try the tee command perhaps?
[10:41] <dr_willis> erupter:  or check in #bash
[10:41] <erupter> tee... gonna check that
[10:41] <washuu_de> nope (I think) shell is not a GUI, ne ?
[10:41] <decci> http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi6.JPG
[10:41] <decci> http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi7.JPG
[10:41] <washuu_de> the GUI is what I want to stick with
[10:41] <dr_willis> washuu_de:  we just said how gnome-shell is the default shell for fedora and is a shell on top of gnome-3
[10:41] <decci> http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi2.JPG
[10:42] <dr_willis> unity is also a shell on top of gnome-3
[10:42] <decci> http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi3.JPG
[10:43] <washuu_de> I misunderstood you then. When you said "shell" I understood "CLI". My fault.
[10:43] <decci> Anyone who can help me
[10:43] <dr_willis> decci:  after that flood i am suprised youi haventg been kicked...
[10:43] <dr_willis> decci:  summarize the issue/problem.. would be a good start
[10:43] <decci> dr_willis: I need help. I am not useless here
[10:44] <decci> dr_willis: Sure
[10:44] <tyson__> how can i put my internet on my linux wen my internet requires an install?
[10:44] <tyson__> like installaion for software
[10:44] <dr_willis> tyson__:  what sort of netwwork are you on?
[10:44] <tyson__> Optus
[10:44] <tyson__> Usb stick
[10:45] <dr_willis> so you hacce a optus wifi usb dongle?
[10:45] <dr_willis> is that a 3g ? or connecting to a router?
[10:45] <tyson__> no
[10:45] <tyson__> not wifi
[10:45] <tyson__> 3g
[10:45] <decci> dr_willis: I have Ubuntu 12.04 ISo which I want to install directly to Compellent SAN. While I partition during the ubuntu installation, it doesnt show me SAN box. I am able to see it during CentOS installation and it work well.
[10:45] <tyson__> it needs to run an exe file
[10:45] <dr_willis> tsst it with the live cd first tyson__ .
[10:46] <tyson__> k
[10:46] <tyson__> then what?
[10:46] <dr_willis> tyson__:  most likely  it just needs a driver.. and it may allready be included on ubuntu
[10:46] <decci> dr_willis: http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/iscsi6.JPG
[10:46] <tyson__> ok ill try it
[10:46] <dr_willis> I know nothing about san boxs..
[10:47] <dr_willis> its possible the people in #ubuntu-server may know about them if no one else in here does
[10:47] <dr_willis> or check out askubuntu.com
[10:47] <decci> dr_willis: http://tracker.webtechnologyfocused.com.au/ehw/syd-sehw-3iscsi0.JPG
[10:47] <decci> dr_willis: If you see CentOS works fine
[10:49] <nizor> tyson what u using to connect to the internet and what version of ubuntu u using?
[10:58] <nanonyme> Hi. After doing a graphical upgrade from Precise to Oneiric, the GUI crashed. The machine was brought to a somewhat working state using dpkg reconfigure but it appears it never finished the upgrade and there are still Precise packages in the system. Any tips on fixing the mess?
[10:59] <lnxslck> nanonyme, reinstall
[10:59] <nanonyme> Any alternative ways?
[11:00] <Fuzzles> Can someone help me when i change volume it changes my mic instead of my speakers
[11:00] <kostkon> nanonyme, tried giving:  sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:01] <nanonyme> kostkon, yeah, it says nothing to upgrade
[11:01] <iceroot> nanonyme: from 12.04 to 11.10?
[11:02] <kostkon> nanonyme, how to you know that some package haven't been updated?
[11:02] <iceroot> nanonyme: and apt-get upgrade is not upgrading the ubuntu version
[11:02] <nanonyme> iceroot, ah, never mind. I was just silly
[11:02] <nanonyme> iceroot, thanks for sanity check
[11:03] <kostkon> iceroot, updates the packages assuming the sources.list now points to the 12.10 repos
[11:03] <iceroot> kostkon: the sources.list was downgraded from 12.04 to 11.10...
[11:04] <nanonyme> kostkon, well, it's 11.10->12.04. iceroot nicely pointed out I remembered the names wrong
[11:04] <kostkon> nanonyme, yeah, i thought you meant 12.10
[11:04] <iceroot> nanonyme: ah ok
[11:04] <nanonyme> So it's just a matter of fixing a few broken packages
[11:04] <nanonyme> But nothing drastic
[11:04] <iceroot> nanonyme: what is the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:04] <kostkon> nanonyme, do you have broken packages?
[11:04] <iceroot> !paste | nanonyme
[11:05] <iceroot> nanonyme: also the output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc"
[11:05] <nanonyme> kostkon, yeah, nvidia-current failed to generate the kernel module last time, that's why I began debugging in the first place
[11:05] <nanonyme> But yeah, should be able to just reinstall that now
[11:07] <kostkon> nanonyme, try first a apt-get dist-upgrade it might fix you nvidia package problems
[11:08] <noobe> How to restore deleted txt files ?
[11:10] <SolarisBoy> noobe: you don't without a backup or by chance that if you had it open by another process when you "deleted" it
[11:12] <prakash__> Hi Friends.. I am finding difficulty in Ubuntu while mounting a shared drive from iomega Storage box.. can someone help me how to resolve this?
[11:12] <funky1> anyone knows how long a fsck would take on a 2TB drive connected via usb?
[11:14] <prakash__> Hi Friends.. I am finding difficulty in Ubuntu while mounting a shared drive from iomega Storage box.. can someone help me how to resolve this?
[11:14] <prakash__> Hi Friends.. I am finding difficulty in Ubuntu while mounting a shared drive from iomega Storage box.. can someone help me how to resolve this?
[11:14] <ross`> is there a reason bind wouldn't work my default on ubuntu? i configured my zones in named.conf.local, and they have correct dns files linked. dig @<IP_ADDRESS> domain.foo doesn't return anything tho
[11:15] <ross`> this same exact thing worked on debian
[11:15] <ross`> i'm using ubuntu server
[11:15] <ross`> bind9
[11:15] <ross`> s/my/by/
[11:17] <prakash__> Mounted  drive in Ubuntu not getting full access. Can someone help me resolving this issue? If i explore through location, then i am getting full access. But if i mount using fstab i am getting readonly access. Help Plzz
[11:18] <ross`> can anyone help me please? ubuntu server 12.04.1 LTS
[11:18] <ross`> this should be working
[11:18] <ross`> i did /etc/init.d/bind9 restart as well as rndc reload
[11:20] <iceroot> ross`: use "sudo service servivename restart" instead of /etc/init.d/servicename restart
[11:20] <iceroot> !upstart | ross`
[11:22] <ross`> atleast i get a question section now..
[11:22] <phoenixsampras> Hello mellow!
[11:22] <ross`> ;adunium.com.                   IN      A
[11:22] <ross`> still not fully working tho
[11:22] <Sami345_> Hello. I've manually installed Java 7 from a package that I downloaded from Sun's website. Now, I would like to install a package that depends on a meta package "java6-runtime". Is there any way that I could define this package as installed manually?
[11:22] <ross`> is there anything else that i might need to do
[11:22] <ross`> i am very new to ubuntu server, been using debian forever
[11:23] <prakashbs> Mounted  drive in Ubuntu not getting full access. Can someone help me resolving this issue? If i explore through location, then i am getting full access. But if i mount using fstab i am getting readonly access. Help Plzz
[11:23] <ross`> iceroot: do you know anything else that might be ubuntu server specific in comparison to debian
[11:24] <phoenixsampras> ross`: ubuntu server has more updated packages
[11:24] <jrib> Sami345_: presumably, you did not use a deb package to install java  7? you can use equivs.  But make sure you document this or it will bite you later when you wonder what's wrong with java.  Also it would seem more appropriate to use equivs on some java7 package, not java6
[11:25] <prakashbs> Help Plzz... Mounted  drive in Ubuntu not getting full access. Can someone help me resolving this issue? If i explore through location, then i am getting full access. But if i mount using fstab i am getting readonly access. Help Plzz
[11:25] <Lantizia> Lo, I'd like an editor I can write C in (something that can deal with whitespace removal, removing tabs, syntax checking for C, etc)... NO I don't want vi/vim/emacs or related... and yes I'm on normal ubuntu so something that doesn't run in the terminal and doesn't require KDE libraries would be handy... any suggestions?
[11:25] <iceroot> ross`: upstart, local dns server by default instead of /etc/resolv.conf, no debugsymbols like on debian, no root-access
[11:26] <jrib> Sami345_: your other option is to also install openjdk.  Then openjdk will satisfy the requirement but you can still use your own java.  This is probably the better option.
[11:26] <ross`> iceroot: no root-access?
[11:26] <ross`> i've been using sudo -i and working as root
[11:26] <dr_willis> prakashbs: what fs is the filesystem?
[11:26] <jrib> prakashbs: what filesystem?
[11:26] <ross`> if files are owned by root can that cause problems
[11:26] <iceroot> ross`: no root account enabled by default
[11:26] <iceroot> !root | ross`
[11:27] <ross`> yea, i used sudo -i
[11:27] <iceroot> ross`: yes
[11:27] <prakashbs> I am using iomega storage box... I installed smbfs before mounting
[11:27] <ross`> well what else could be the problem
[11:27] <iceroot> ross`: and on debian there is a root account usable by default, not on ubuntu, ob ubuntu you use sudo
[11:27] <jrib> ross`: you shouldn't be using /etc/init.d directly.  Use the "service" command
[11:27] <ross`> i still have no idea why it isn't working, and i'm getting zero errors
[11:27] <dr_willis> Lantizia:  try geany
[11:27] <ross`> jrib: i did
[11:27] <phoenixsampras> ross`: i do use: sudo su, then i log like root ;) voila
[11:27] <SolarisBoy> i heard sudo -i is better
[11:28] <ross`> what else could be the problem here, my A records re not showing up
[11:28] <ross`> and i have zero idea why
[11:28] <jrib> phoenixsampras: sudo -i    will sanitize your environment
[11:28] <ross`> i did service bind9 restart
[11:28] <Lantizia> dr_willis, cool, I will thanks - do you use that?
[11:28] <dr_willis> dont use  sudo su    ;-)
[11:28] <ross`> service bind9 reload
[11:28] <SolarisBoy> jrib: where are you looking for the a records to resolve from internally or on the web?
[11:28] <ross`> and my a records are not resolving
[11:28] <SolarisBoy> jrib: was the change proper? serial incremented and all?
[11:28] <ross`> either from <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:28] <jrib> SolarisBoy: wrong nick?
[11:29] <dr_willis> Lantizia:  depends on what im editing.  i use vim  mainly
[11:29] <ross`> is there any thing else ubuntu specific that could be the problem?
[11:29] <SolarisBoy> jrib: ooh my bad
[11:29] <ross`> why isn't this working
[11:29] <SolarisBoy> ross`: theres a few reasons,,, what access do you have to check further like logs etc?
[11:29] <ross`> does ubuntu use a non standard bind9 config file besides /etc/bind/named.conf
[11:30] <ross`> i have no idea why these zones are not being loaded
[11:30] <ross`> no typos
[11:30] <ross`> everything is correct
[11:30] <ross`> this should work
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> ross`: listen...
[11:30] <erupter> dr_willis, concatenation is done with ; -> head file1 ; tail file2 >> file3
[11:30] <FloodBot1> ross`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:30] <ross`> especially at localhost
[11:30] <dr_willis> practice  keep it in the channel please.
[11:30] <ross`> SolarisBoy: please tell me what the potential reasons are
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> ross`: did you increment the serial? is bind listening does it resolve _anything_? whats your nssswitch and local resolver look like, how are you querying bind to know whats wrong?
[11:30] <SolarisBoy> tell me..
[11:31] <dr_willis> erupter:  >> appends.. yes. ;-)
[11:31] <SolarisBoy> ross`: was trying.. did you check the logs?
[11:31] <ross`> SolarisBoy: the serial shouldn't need incrementation on the first load :O
[11:31] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:31] <ross`> which log shuld i check
[11:32] <SolarisBoy> ross`: try syslog or log to see if there is a /var/log/named or similar
[11:32] <SolarisBoy> *look
[11:32] <erupter> ok generic networking question: I have my dhcp setup correctly, why is that I have to do sudo dhclient /iface/ everytime to correctly get the dns servers? otherwise I only have <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:32] <ross`> i just incrememnted my serial and then did rndc reload
[11:32] <ross`> that shold have worked if serial was the problem, but it idd not
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> ross`: ok whats the *response* from the server when you query it - and then whats in the logs when you query it?
[11:33] <Guest52459> Hello! I have a problem with my USB modules. I use Kubuntu, and when I start the machine, it works  fine for few minutes, but after starting the USB Webcam, and closing it, lsusb shows no devices  connected, and in dmesg all my USB devices are disconnected for no reason. The single USB module  which is loaded at this point is usb_storage. How can I solve this problem?
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> ross`: you can also provide as much detail about whats wrong other than its not working where you can to assist folks in helping =)
[11:33] <prakashbs> root@JHSP-Manjunath:~# mount
[11:33] <prakashbs> /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[11:33] <prakashbs> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:33] <prakashbs> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:33] <prakashbs> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[11:33] <FloodBot1> prakashbs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <SolarisBoy> uh ph
[11:33] <prakashbs> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[11:33] <ross`> SolarisBoy: no i can't because i get no errors
[11:34] <ross`> SolarisBoy: it will not resolve with dig @<IP_ADDRESS> domain.foo
[11:34] <ross`> this exact host files with /etc/bind/names.conf.local would work on debian
[11:34] <ross`> i don't know why it is not working here
[11:35] <SolarisBoy> ross`: did you copy the debian configurations over or did you rebuild them manually?
[11:35] <ross`> i rebuilt them manually, and quadruple checked
[11:35] <fruitFly> please help http://superuser.com/questions/545478/dual-boot-linux-mint-14-partitioning
[11:35] <ross`> every suffix . is in place, as well as everything typed correctly
[11:35] <ross`> there are no syntax errors
[11:35] <prakashbs> Mount output... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600709/
[11:35] <ross`> bind would report a syntax error when started if it had one
[11:36] <jrib> prakashbs: which directory are you trying to access?
[11:36] <prakashbs> JHSP-FS
[11:36] <SolarisBoy> ross`: do you have present "named-checkzone" binary?
[11:36] <ross`> root@adunium:/var/host# nc -l 53
[11:36] <ross`> nc: Address already in use
[11:36] <ross`> that looks good too
[11:36] <SolarisBoy> ross`: if so can you run it on the intended zone and zone file
[11:36] <prakashbs> worksdaily from storage box
[11:36] <ross`> yes, i have that command, thank you
[11:36] <ross`> let me try that
[11:37] <Fuzzles> anyone know when steam is out of beta?
[11:38] <prakashbs> jrib: any clue.. you got.. If i access the same drive through Location.. then i am getting full access
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:38] <SolarisBoy> ross`: also check if you are running something like apparmor and there is no conflict there
[11:38] <jrib> prakashbs: so now you should show your fstab line
[11:39] <ross`> apparmor?
[11:39] <ross`> this is a fresh install the only things i installed were apache2, bind9, nmap, whois
[11:39] <ross`> i can't think of anything that could possibly be be a problem
[11:40] <ross`> with a serversocket conflict
[11:40] <SolarisBoy> have you checked the process table or is that an assumption?
[11:40] <prakashbs> fstab file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600720/
[11:40] <ross`> SolarisBoy: what should i check for?
[11:40] <SolarisBoy> it wouldn't be a socket conflict it would be a RBAC system running conflict
[11:40] <fruitFly> oh
[11:40] <SolarisBoy> you could try ps -ef |grep apparmor... and what was the output of the command you ran? checking the zones->files stuff?
[11:41] <fruitFly> a /boot partition.. what is its purposee?!?!?!
[11:41] <Diegosnat> hi
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: to hold files pertaining to booting
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: kernels, ramdisks, grub stuff
[11:41] <Diegosnat> hi guys!! Ive got a huge problem! I created a script for udev that seems to work but RUM+="" which does not execute the command, why? RUN+="/bin/echo a > /opt/nearline.pid"
[11:41] <ross`> SolarisBoy: adunium   5293  2185  0 06:41 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto apparmor
[11:41] <jrib> prakashbs: ls -ld /media/JHSP-FS
[11:41] <ross`> doesn't look like it is running
[11:42] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: so why might one want a seperate partition for that? couldn't that just be put in / ?
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> ross`: ok - so continue troubleshooting your installation
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: sure
[11:42] <ross`> SolarisBoy: it's a fresh installation, all i did was install bind9
[11:42] <ross`> and apache2, and then tools
[11:42] <ross`> there is seriously nothing on this ubuntu server system
[11:42] <jrib> ross`: stop pressing enter so much please
[11:42] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I am about to install linux for dualboot, you think I should make a /boot, if so how large?
[11:43] <prakashbs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600730/
[11:43] <ross`> unless this ther is something i don't know about the ubuntu system..
[11:43] <jrib> prakashbs: ls -ld /media/JHSP-FS   (d not s)
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: i have a seperate boot as the other stuff is on lvm - it's nice to have it otherwise for varying reasons
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: people say a few hundred mb is fine but if you do plan to retain a lot of files there make it big enough
[11:44] <ross`> does named-checkconf return nothing if it is a good config?
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: kernels are not very large
[11:44] <ross`> cause it returned nothing.. like i said no syntax errors
[11:44] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I'm taking a shit in a coffee shop in vitenam
[11:44] <IdleOne> !language | fruitFly
[11:44] <prakashbs> Sorry.. Now i put ls -ld http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600732/
[11:44] <Zentaur> hello
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> ross`: did it say OK and say what serial was loaded? did it exit 0?
[11:45] <Zentaur> could anybody tell me how to change the password of a crypted hdd?
[11:45] <ross`> SolarisBoy: that isn't named-checkzone, still trying to figure out how to use that
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> ok...
[11:45] <Zentaur> i checked to crypt the hdd while installing ubuntu
[11:46] <jrib> prakashbs: you should be able to write to it.  What happens when you try « touch /media/JHSP-FS/testing »?
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> if you use 'named-checkzone domain.tld /path/to/zonefile.tld' it should let you know ross`
[11:46] <Zentaur> but now i want to change the passwd. will it be as simple as changing it in the preferences?
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> ross`: ensure to plug in your specifics to replace those generic items..
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: the user password or the HD encryption passphrase?
[11:47] <prakashbs> You want me to try this from Command line? Problem is when i try to create nay file in mounted drive it creates with lock symbol
[11:47] <prakashbs> jrib: You want me to try this from Command line? Problem is when i try to create nay file in mounted drive it creates with lock symbol
[11:47] <jrib> prakashbs: yes
[11:48] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: you have a seperate boot as other stuff is on lvm? What you mean other stuff?
[11:48] <Zentaur> SolarisBoy, that's it
[11:48] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: / && /home is on LVM in my case /boot is on a standard ext4 partition
[11:49] <SolarisBoy> excuse me.. standard linux partition i guess..
[11:49] <prakashbs> jrib: i tried that..  0 -rw-r--r-- 1 1015 users          0 Feb  2 17:15 testing
[11:49] <prakashbs> jrib: shall I post ls -ls ?
[11:50] <ross`> apparmor was the problem..
[11:50] <ross`> wow...
[11:50] <Diegonat> hi guys!! Ive got a huge problem! I created a script for udev that seems to work but RUM+="" which does not execute the command, why? RUN+="/bin/echo a > /opt/nearline.pid"
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> heh..
[11:50] <ross`> why is that even there.. it is like purposefully breaking stuff
[11:50] <prakashbs> jrib
[11:50] <ross`> this is why i continued to use debian for so long, because of this type of stuff..
[11:50] <ross`> bleh, well thanks for the help
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> ross`: its not breaking anything in fact its protecting things.. but some times it prevents programs from working that don't have profiles
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> in all reality you can simply tell apparmor to ignore bind or add a proper profile for it (proper thing to do)
[11:51] <prakashbs> jrib: i tried mounting in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and 10.04 as well.. same issue in both the environments
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> stopping it or whatever you did is just a work around.
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> ross`: ^ - but glad it's working.
[11:52] <Zentaur> and f i need to extract the hdd and conect it to a external box... what passwd will it ask me for to be mounted?
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> the enc passphrase i suppose
[11:53] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I'm new to linux and partitioning and am not sure if I should create a /boot , in time I might download a zfs kernel, maybe not though. If I were to make a /boot, what would be a safe size for it? 2GB? If you would I would appreciate you checking out my short question at http://superuser.com/questions/545478/dual-boot-linux-mint-14-partitioning
[11:53] <Zentaur> but the enc passphrese is the user passwd snt it?
[11:53] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I REALLY APPRECIATE IT!
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: no
[11:53] <Zentaur> last time i entered my user passwd and worked
[11:54] <jrib> prakashbs: that's ok. I understand your issue now.  But I don't know the best way for you to proceed and I must leave.  You should repeat your question, include your pastebin links, and explain that you're having trouble with the ownership of files you create on your cifs share.  I'll send you the docs link, but I don't know if they address your specific question (you can look through them while you wait for
[11:54] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: sure. one second.
[11:54] <jrib> someone else to answer)
[11:54] <jrib> !samba | prakashbs
[11:54] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: theres a longer string i recall if we are taking about the same encryption process that is revealed one time on login and you should retain it somewhere
[11:54] <yeats> !mint | fruitFly
[11:54] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: and then there is your password which is for the OS access
[11:55] <prakashbs> jrib: thanks..
[11:55] <SolarisBoy> oh didn't notice it was mint =)
[11:55] <prakashbs> ubottu: i am using iOmega storage box.. and i enabled windows file sharing in that
[11:55] <fruitFly> yeats: SolarisBoy I think I am going to download ubuntu instead, I am trying to understand the partitioning first though
[11:56] <Zentaur> mmm now i understand SolarisBoy
[11:56] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: /boot does not require lots of space - as stated kernels are not large, i've seen people use 5G-10G and call that safe, mine is a few hundred MB as stated and i have multiple old kernels that need cleaning up
[11:56] <Zentaur> thanks a lot :)
[11:56] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: sure
[11:57] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: so maybe just 1GB? And how large should I make / relative to /home?
[11:57] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: and if I make a /home can I point different distros at the same /home?
[11:57] <fruitFly> yeats: ^^
[11:57] <Diegonat> guys I created a script for udev that seems to work but RUM+="" which does not execute the command, why? RUN+="/bin/echo a > /opt/nearline.pid"
[11:57] <prakashbs> jrib: i tried the links already which you shared...
[11:58] <SolarisBoy> (the OS and it's files, expect this to grow as you install things) /home (your stuff, expect this to grow as your system grows) - as such thats entirely up to you
[11:58] <SolarisBoy> again i've seen 15-20GB / and everything else for home - but those are systems that are lean and kept that way - but thats why i like LVM
[11:58] <Zentaur> one more thing
[11:58] <Zentaur> do i need the /boot partition?
[11:59] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: if you have a seperate home sure that may not be the wisest thing - you'd probably have a ton of . files but sure
[11:59] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: no
[11:59] <Zentaur> then i install the bootloader  directly in the hdd?
[12:00] <SolarisBoy> Zentaur: if you don't have a seperate /boot the installer will simply put it on the main disk partition and mark that disk bootable
[12:00] <easy> anyone have any info on the samsung+ uefi fiasco?
[12:00] <easy> i just been through hell and back
[12:00] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: not the smartest thing? a ton of .files? what would be a better way to accomplish that? And would I need a seperate / partition for a a different distro, or just a different /boot?
[12:00] <Zentaur> thanks!very nice
[12:00] <prakashbs> Hi Friends.. I am facing problems when i mount drive in Ubuntu using fstab. I am not getting read/write access. I am using iomega storage box. and enabled windows file sharing.. can some please help me..  mount and ls -ld output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:00] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: well thats my "analness" i guess - i wouldn't do it - but you can
[12:01] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: ok, so the only real reason to make a /home is for easier backup?
[12:01] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: yes , backup, restore, expansion, replacement, etc
[12:02] <prakashbs> Mounted drive not getting full access eventhough i given read/write access http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:02] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: installing linux will not use up a another primary partition, right? Do I just make the partitions and grub will automatically install to my windows partition?
[12:03] <prakashbs> Mounted drive not getting full access eventhough i given read/write access http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:03] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: if you have windows installed you should be using the standard installed DVD and it will handle this for you =)
[12:03] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: it will ask you how you want to install it, how to resize windows and it will handle taking care of the boot loaders so you still ave the option to get back to windows if you choose
[12:03] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: standard installed dvd? I will use a linux cd?
[12:04] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: for a beginner i would advise that for sure - otherwise you may lose data.. or an OS.. testing on your system there
[12:04] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: in linux there is a dual boot option and a something else option where you can set the partition sizes your self? Can you also do that in the dual boot option?
[12:04] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: yes the one you download on the ubuntu homepage
[12:04] <yui-p1ug> does anyone know how to fix this - when i do a fullscreen vid/flash and move mouse to bottom, the screen moves up
[12:04] <yui-p1ug> any idea
[12:04] <yui-p1ug> what is it called ?
[12:04] <Oweoqi> does kubuntu come with many themes>?
[12:05] <yui-p1ug> i thought it was tomboy notes, seems like they refer as desktop objects and linking etc.
[12:05] <yui-p1ug> i am not able to find the keyword for what it is called.. it is damn frustrating
[12:05] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: in linux there is a dual boot option and a something else option where you can set the partition sizes your self? Can you also do that in the dual boot option?
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: im sorry have no idea what you mean =)
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: dualbooting is above linux it's grub if anything else
[12:06] <prakashbs> Mounted drive not getting full access eventhough i given read/write access http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:06] <wagner> hello, ive a notebook that is UEFI and 32bit. How i can install ubuntu on it? Ive noticied that only ubuntu64 bit supports EFI
[12:06] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: as stated if you use the standard ubuntu installer it will handle setting up dual boot (with partitioning and properly setting grub up) is the only relation of linux to dual booting
[12:07] <bekks> fruitFly: There is no "dual boot option in linux". You have to configure your system for dualbooting yourself.
[12:07] <skp1> how can i tell apt-get not to upgrade a certain package?
[12:07] <bekks> wagner: Then you have to disable UEFI and use BIOS instead.
[12:07] <prakashbs> babilen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/  can you help me here
[12:07] <wagner> ive only uefi
[12:07] <SolarisBoy> skp1: apt-get install <pkg> if the upgrade is available it will be upgraded
[12:08] <SolarisBoy> skp1: apt-get update first ofcourse
[12:08] <skp1> solarisboy: i dont want it to upgrade, i want to keep it from upgrading.
[12:08] <bekks> wagner: And you are 1000% sure your computer isnt 64bit capable?
[12:08] <wagner> yes
[12:08] <prakashbs> Please help... Mounted drive not getting full access eventhough i given read/write access http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:08] <SolarisBoy> skp1: i think there is command line call you can use or there is a way to stop apt from considering the package under /etc/apt.d
[12:08] <wagner> bekks: ive windows 8 32 bit secureboot with uefi
[12:08] <SolarisBoy> skp1: sorry not sure off top
[12:08] <bekks> wagner: That doesnt mean that your computer isnt capable of 64bit.
[12:08] <wagner> the cpu is 32bit
[12:08] <skp1> anyone else know?
[12:09] <bekks> wagner: Which CPU very exactly is it?
[12:09] <SolarisBoy> it could have PAE ext..
[12:09] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: bekks I'm not necessarily going to use mint but when I put in the mint .iso it give the options: dual boot alongside windows, fresh install AND "something else" (custom partitioning). Would the dual boot option install grub to mbr allow me to also set up my partitions? And that's automatically done in the ubuntu .iso without a formal "dual boot option"?
[12:09] <bekks> fruitFly: No one in here has a clue about the mint installer.
[12:09] <wagner> bekks: intel atom z2760
[12:09] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: ubuntu gives you this similar option though worded differently
[12:09] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: can you help me with this issue..? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/   mounted drive is not getting full access
[12:10] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: it allows you to setup partitions in that - you can resize the ubuntu partition and you'll be able to control the size of both - it will then proceed to install the whole system to the free space it makes - it won't do a complicated partitioning scheme here
[12:10] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy:  bekks os files stored in / also includes program files when downloading new software?
[12:10] <bekks> prakashbs: State your problem please. Your paste does not contain a problem.
[12:11] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: yes - some things generally considering user preferences are placed under /home/<user> though
[12:11] <bekks> fruitFly: In Ubuntu, the files you are downloading are stored in /home/youruser/Downloads
[12:11] <skp1> SolarisBoy: apparently it can be done through synaptic, thanks anyway
[12:11] <cy43> anyone knows how to add 256 color support for urvxt?
[12:11] <prakashbs> bekks: Monuted drive in Ubuntu not getting full access.. I mounted dshared drive from iomega storage box.. The out put of mount is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:12] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: so when dual boot partitioning with ubuntu you cannot leave unallocated space?
[12:12] <cy43> anyone knows how to add 256 color support for urvxt?
[12:12] <bekks> prakashbs: You already provided that paste. You paste does not contain any problems. Whats the detailed problem you are experiencing?
[12:12] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: afaik no
[12:12] <bekks> fruitFly: Of course you can.
[12:12] <SolarisBoy> not in the standard installer..
[12:12] <bekks> SolarisBoy: Thats correct, yes.
[12:12] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: afaik?
[12:13] <SolarisBoy> ahh i knew i wasn't bugging =)
[12:13] <cy43> anyone knows how to add 256 color support for urvxt?
[12:13] <jennyh> Hi. Im having trouble using gb.archive.ubuntu.com.  is it me or them?
[12:13] <SolarisBoy> as far as i know = afaik. fruitFly
[12:13] <cy43> anyone knows how to add 256 color support for urvxt?
[12:13] <fruitFly> aaah SolarisBoy  :D
[12:13] <prakashbs> bekks: When i try to create any folder or file in mounted drive then it creates with locksymbol... I am not able to save attachments straight from mail client like thudnerbird..
[12:13] <SolarisBoy> anyway the point is YEs you can do this unallocated space thing - but not from the normal installer disk - the live one - you may need the alternate installer for that
[12:14] <SolarisBoy> OR to have that partition already cut up - but i suggest you use the custom installer for your experience level fruitFly
[12:14] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: so what you think 8GB swap, 46GB / and 154GB /home and 1GB /boot?
[12:14] <prakashbs> bekks: Same drive I access through smb://ipaddress/sharedfolder then i get full access for the same user. Problem happens only with mounted drive..
[12:14] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: sounds good - question, is that a laptop? how much memory do you have?
[12:15] <fruitFly> I have 4GB but I might stick another 4Gb in
[12:15] <fruitFly> yes laptop SolarisBoy
[12:15] <SolarisBoy> ok gotcha - and you plan to hibernate i suppose? otherwise 8GB of swap is a waste
[12:15] <fruitFly> I hibernate with my 4GB :) SolarisBoy
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> thats cool - i guess you need it if you hibernate so nevermind
[12:16] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: SLEEP VS HIBERNATE?
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> never cared
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> =)
[12:16] <fruitFly> lol
[12:16] <erupter> anyone knows why uninstalling dnsmasq-base would result in networking death? network manager doesn't show, and all interfaces don't configure anymore
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> as long as it looks of it's fine with me =)
[12:16] <SolarisBoy> *off
[12:16] <prakashbs> bekks: you understand the issue..Please ignore  for my poor explanation ..
[12:17] <SolarisBoy> erupter: i believe network-manager uses dnsmasq for local caching in some setups (possibly default)
[12:17] <erupter> SolarisBoy, suppose so, i tried removing it and now it's broken
[12:17] <SolarisBoy> lol put it back!
[12:18] <SolarisBoy> j/p
[12:18] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: SO I could use the express dual boot option and it would fill up the whole disk OR I could make the custom partitions first and then do the dual boot option and just mount at / ? The terminilogy is still a little confusing to me, mount, / etc.
[12:18] <erupter> I'm trying manually copying the deb from another pc, and installing by end. do you know of a way of removing dnsmasq from ubuntu?
[12:18] <SolarisBoy> erupter: dpkg -l "dnsmasq*" remove whats returned if you really wanted to
[12:19] <SolarisBoy> erupter: you may want to put the interfaces as manual up in /etc/network/interfaces so network-manager doesn't control them and then manually program them to prevent the network death in the mean time
[12:19] <bekks> prakashbs: No, I dont not understand the issue without an error message. :)
[12:21] <erupter> SolarisBoy, for the networks right now I'm at home and I only have a wireless, so... no joy in manual config :(
[12:21] <fruitFly> SO I could use the express dual boot option and it would fill up the whole disk OR I could make the custom partitions first and then do the dual boot option and just mount at / ? The terminilogy is still a little confusing to me, mount, / etc.
[12:21] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: ^^
[12:21] <SolarisBoy> erupter: i getcha
[12:21] <erupter> SolarisBoy, for the dpkg stuff... wait I try to copy the result from the other pc
[12:21] <prakashbs> bekks: There is no error.. When i try to create nay folder or file in shared drive.. it gets created .. but with lock symbol on it..  that means it's not allowing to have read/write access. Same drive if i access throgh smb://serverIP/shared folder.. then i am getting full access.. problem is with mounted drive..
[12:21] <bekks> prakashbs: So your problem is a weired icon, basically?
[12:22] <SolarisBoy> erupter: so is that when network-manager does run no interfaces are listed since you purged dnsmasq? if not try to set manually a resolver in the nm-applet and bounce the service
[12:22] <bekks> prakashbs: Did you even try to access your drive in read/write?
[12:22] <prakashbs> yes.. really.. iomega guys stopped responding now..
[12:22] <babilen> prakashbs: You could create the "testing" file just fine
[12:23] <erupter> SolarisBoy, http://pastebin.com/crxvx52h
[12:23] <prakashbs> babilen.. i did that using command line..
[12:23] <erupter> SolarisBoy, service networking start/restart freezes
[12:23] <bekks> prakashbs: So you dont have a problem when being able to create a testing file just fine.
[12:23] <prakashbs> bekks: i didnt get u... accessdrive in read/write means?
[12:23] <SolarisBoy> are you creating the file as root and then trying to access it via file manager (As your user most likely?) prakashbs ?
[12:23] <erupter> SolarisBoy,  it's not working at all and I don't have the network manager icon anymore
[12:23] <babilen> prakashbs: So what? I see no error whatsoever.
[12:24] <bekks> prakashbs: "did you try to create a testing file?" "yes. it works fine." "ok, you have no problem then." :)
[12:24] <SolarisBoy> i think hes creating the file as root
[12:24] <bekks> SolarisBoy: The permissions are against you ;)
[12:24] <prakashbs> No... there is 10 users... for everyone same problem... i craeted multiple folders.. problem happens if i use mounted drive
[12:24] <SolarisBoy> and opening (or trying) to in a file manager which is owned by him (user) most likely - he said he sees a lock on the files once created
[12:24] <babilen> prakashbs: Which problem?
[12:24] <SolarisBoy> bekks: those darn perms !! =)
[12:24] <prakashbs> same drive if i access through smb://serverip/sharedfilder with same user.. then it works fine
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> erupter: i see
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> erupter: that blows sorry to hear that =(
[12:25] <bekks> babilen: The closed lock symbol on the icon of the drive on the desktop-
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> erupter: technically you can setup network from the CLI without NM it's just more complicated
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> per say
[12:25] <erupter> SolarisBoy, yeah... is there a way I can do something like sudo apt-get install /path/to/deb? it's refusing at the moment
[12:25] <yui-p1ug> how do you disable horizontal dash that lists open apps in ubuntu
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> erupter: yes use dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb (with sudo ofcourse)
[12:25] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: SO I could use the express dual boot option and it would fill up the whole disk OR I could make the custom partitions first and then do the dual boot option and just mount at / ? The terminilogy is still a little confusing to me, mount, / etc.
[12:26] <Uncle_Sam> would i get the latest changes that linus commited (the ones regarding samsung firmware uefi problem) if i get 13 alpha? or is that a bad idea?
[12:26] <bekks> prakashbs: WHICH problem happens... ignore that icon and state the PROBLEM please.
[12:26] <Uncle_Sam> i have a lot of work to do today that i can't do on windows 8 :p
[12:26] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: you run the installer and you tell it how big you want windows resized to - it takes care of the rest - what i think your implying is a manual setup which would be very different
[12:27] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: Ok thanks :)... 1 more thing... Why ubuntu over mint?
[12:27] <prakashbs> bekks: i am not getting full access.. please see the output here ...
[12:27] <prakashbs> manjunath@JHSP-Manjunath:~$ touch /media/JHSP-FS/testing2
[12:27] <prakashbs> touch: cannot touch `/media/JHSP-FS/testing2': Permission denied
[12:27] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: in the manual case yes you setup all the partitions, resize windows manually using gparted or whatever, create parts/FS on new unallocated space, create a boot partition for ubuntu, make a chain loader windows entry in grub, and make an entry to point to the new partition with the new ubuntu root is the manual way
[12:27] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: but the cd does all that for you
[12:28] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: I don't need to resize windows as I left 232 GB of unallocated space
[12:28] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: meaning its mounted as root most likely or the folder on top is owned by root
[12:28] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: seems normal
[12:28] <SolarisBoy> if the filesystem complies mount it with the uid,gid options
[12:29] <prakashbs> please help me solving this.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:29] <SolarisBoy> if not permission the folders properly -
[12:29] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: can you see the output and usggest me where exactly i did a mistake?
[12:29] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[12:29] <SolarisBoy> i dont think you did a mistake
[12:29] <SolarisBoy> you just need to fix your permissions is all..
[12:30] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: Is the make a chain loader windows entry complicated? I already have free space. Should I make my swap at the end of the hd to be more easily accessed or is that negligible?
[12:30] <bekks> prakashbs: sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:30] <SolarisBoy> fruitFly: sorry im going to hop in the shower - i suggest the CD thats a process (manual) you'll save time/head hair by using the CD
[12:30] <SolarisBoy> if you want to play around have a backup =)
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> +1 bekks, brb
[12:31] <prakashbs> bekks: do i need to unmount before doing this?
[12:31] <bekks> prakashbs: No.
[12:31] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: Swap at the end of the hd for more easily accessible?!?!?!?!?!?!
[12:31] <bekks> fruitFly: Nonsense.
[12:31] <fruitFly> Why UBUNTU OVER MINT!!!!!!!!?????????!!!!! SolarisBoy
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> word..
[12:31] <erupter> SolarisBoy, is there a way I can use either dpkg or apt-get to download the debs easily to move to the other pc?
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> swap anywhere - doesn't matter
[12:31] <bekks> fruitFly: And do use ONE interpunctuation sign only.
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> if it did the difference is so minute no one would care
[12:32] <fruitFly> SolarisBoy: Why ubuntu over mint?
[12:32] <fruitFly> which is the pinnacle lol
[12:32] <SolarisBoy> never used mint -
[12:32] <SolarisBoy> in this channel it's relevant probably - name being #ubuntu and all =)
[12:32] <SolarisBoy> *relevance
[12:32] <prakashbs> bekks: i am not able to do that.. its saying permission denied
[12:32] <bekks> fruitFly: Please keep it up to support, not to offtopic discussions.
[12:33] <Oweoqi> do I need to port forward for hamachi?
[12:33] <fruitFly> bekks: u party pooper.. I'm out
[12:33] <fruitFly> bekks: SolarisBoy Thanks for all the help! I reaaaly appreciate it :D
[12:33] <bekks> fruitFly: Watch your language, in addition, thanks.
[12:33] <bekks> prakashbs: Then run the command I gave you.
[12:33] <SolarisBoy> np dude have a good one.
[12:33] <fruitFly> You guys have an AMAZING ONE :D:D:D:D:D:D
[12:34] <Uncle_Sam> \Nickserv
[12:34] <kingbeast> Uncle_Sam, / not\
[12:34] <prakashbs> bekks: when runnig that command also i am getting this error..
[12:34] <Uncle_Sam> lollollollollollollolloollloolllooollllololllllolllllolllolllollloll
[12:34] <Uncle_Sam> ok
[12:35] <erupter> is there a way I can use either dpkg or apt-get to download the debs easily to move to the other pc?
[12:35] <bekks> prakashbs: So which command do you run?
[12:35] <Uncle_Sam> i am using metroirc .. gimme a break :p
[12:35] <SolarisBoy> erupter: you can use apt-get and the download otpion and you can copy the files over to the computer and use dpkg -i file.deb on the other end like i initially said =)
[12:36] <erupter> dpkg I already did, the download part I was missing. thanks SolarisBoy
[12:36] <Uncle_Sam> been a week can't get stable ubuntu on samsung! half-bricked twice!
[12:36] <SolarisBoy> erupter: np =)
[12:36] <kingbeast> erupter, even if you did, sometimes it would still need to retrieve dependencies
[12:36] <SolarisBoy> true story
[12:36] <prakashbs> bekks: Now i unmounted the drive... then i ran the command chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS..
[12:36] <prakashbs> bekks: then i monuted again .. still same problem
[12:37] <yeats> Uncle_Sam: that's hardware/firmware-related - you'll have to take that up with Samsung/your laptop dealer
[12:37]  * SolarisBoy wonders if apt download would fetch the deps also...
[12:37] <prakashbs> bekks: i logged in as a root when i run that command... do i need to login as a user or root?
[12:37] <Uncle_Sam> well i
[12:37] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: !root
[12:37] <Uncle_Sam> kernel/firmware doesn't mean hardware i thought
[12:37] <Xtreme> hey guys
[12:37] <captine> Uncle_Sam,  what machine?  So i know not to get it :)
[12:38] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: use regular users when logging in
[12:38] <Xtreme> anyone successfully installed speech recognition so far?
[12:38] <yeats> Uncle_Sam: it's specific to Samsung
[12:38] <Uncle_Sam> it's actually a solid machine
[12:38] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: i logged in from ssh.. and did it..
[12:38] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: doesn't matter log in as normal users
[12:38] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: and set PermitRootLogin no in sshd_config when you get a sec...
[12:39] <ikonia> that is already set by default on ubuntu
[12:39] <SolarisBoy> whammy
[12:39] <ikonia> so either this is not an ubuntu install or someone has enabled it
[12:39] <Uncle_Sam> samsung NP350U3C-A07UK
[12:39] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: if i login as a user then if i use sudo .. then it's not allowing me to run command
[12:39] <yeats> Uncle_Sam: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/01/linux_samsung_laptop_fix_advice/ - that might help to know (developing story, so solid info may not be available)
[12:39] <ikonia> prakashbs: is this an ubuntu machine ?
[12:39] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: so  i logged in directly using root..
[12:40] <prakashbs> ikonia: yes.. ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:40] <SolarisBoy> that means you weren't setup to use sudo with that command, and it further sounds that that machine is configured to prevent access to certain things if commands are configured in sudoers..
[12:40] <ikonia> prakashbs: the root account is locked / disabled
[12:40] <Uncle_Sam> yeats: thanks man i know this is an in progress thing
[12:40] <bekks> prakashbs: Which command did you run? Answer the question please.
[12:40] <ikonia> prakashbs: also the ssh process won't allow direct login as root even if you enable it unless you set the parameter SolarisBoy has said
[12:40] <varikonniemi> what does the swappiness value set?
[12:40] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: either way - as you see - using root is not a good idea, thats why your having all this problem with the file in the first place =(
[12:41] <prakashbs> bekks: i used ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>then i ran command chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:41] <ikonia> prakashbs: that should not work
[12:41] <ikonia> prakashbs: have you enabled root login in sshd ? have you enabled the root account ?
[12:41] <bekks> varikonniemi: It sets the "will to swap".
[12:41] <SolarisBoy> varikonniemi: how much your system relies on swap
[12:42] <SolarisBoy> mines is unwilling =)
[12:42] <varikonniemi> yeah but is there some metric?
[12:42] <bekks> SolarisBoy: :D Mine neither :)
[12:42] <varikonniemi> 0-100 is range, but what does it affect
[12:42] <SolarisBoy> good question - not sure how those numbers work - 10 is low 0 is not and 100 is a lot i guess
[12:42] <kingbeast> Uncle_Sam, that's one of the samsung ultrabooks?
[12:42] <bekks> varikonniemi: 0 == dont even think of swapping, 100 == swap whenever you just have a chance to.
[12:42] <varikonniemi> yes, and default is 60
[12:42] <prakashbs> if i use sudo chmod g+w media/JHSP-FS, then it's asking password.. but it's not taking root password
[12:42] <bekks> varikonniemi: Which is a pretty good default.
[12:43] <varikonniemi> if it is as you say, defauklt should be like 10
[12:43] <ikonia> prakashbs: that is not the root password
[12:43] <Ben64> !root | prakashbs
[12:43] <varikonniemi> because swap== last resort
[12:43] <SolarisBoy> varikonniemi: on certain systems it can be 10..
[12:43] <bekks> varikonniemi: Nope :)
[12:43] <ikonia> prakashbs: it wants your user password
[12:43] <ikonia> prakashbs: is this your desktop ?
[12:43] <SolarisBoy> now if you have a bomber.. you probably want to leave that just as it is...
[12:43] <bekks> varikonniemi: swap == pretty good resort when running into the out of memory killer otherwise.
[12:43] <prakashbs> yes
[12:43] <prakashbs> if i put sudo bash.. then it's asks password.. that's root password.. rite? correct me if i am workng
[12:43] <SolarisBoy> if your running SSD on a desktop thats not mobile, and you have tons of memory that you know you never use up in a million years then sure set it to 10
[12:43] <ikonia> prakashbs: right, 1.) why are you logging in as root ?
[12:44] <nearst> hi all
[12:44] <varikonniemi> bekks, yes, but imo swapping when you have gigs of ram is idiotic. And this is normal ubuntu behavior
[12:44] <ikonia> prakashbs: if you are logging in as root you should understand te basics of your system, you do not. Do not login as root
[12:44] <Ben64> prakashbs: sudo is your password, root doesn't (shouldn't) have a password
[12:44] <kingbeast> hi nearst
[12:44] <bekks> varikonniemi: swap is only used when there is no RAM available anymore.
[12:44] <varikonniemi> not true
[12:44] <SolarisBoy> bekks: actually swap is used normally
[12:45] <kingbeast> bekks, who told you that?
[12:45] <prakashbs> ikonia: manjunath@JHSP-Manjunath:~$ sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:45] <prakashbs> [sudo] password for manjunath:
[12:45] <bekks> kingbeast: My experience in 15y.
[12:45] <prakashbs> what password i should put here
[12:45] <kingbeast> you're wrong
[12:45] <ikonia> prakashbs: please stop for a moment
[12:45] <Xtreme> anyone?
[12:45] <ikonia> prakashbs: please type the command "id" and show me the output
[12:45] <nearst> kingbeast, ty
[12:45] <ikonia> Xtreme: anyone what ?
[12:45] <Xtreme> voice recognition
[12:45] <ikonia> Xtreme: saying anyone is pointless, it add no value
[12:45] <bekks> kingbeast: Then provide some more information, like links, on that.
[12:45] <Xtreme> ikonia, read above
[12:45] <ikonia> Xtreme: you're just saying random words, try using a sentence
[12:46] <Xtreme> i already asked
[12:46] <prakashbs> manjunath@JHSP-Manjunath:~$ id
[12:46] <prakashbs> uid=1002(manjunath) gid=1003(manjunath) groups=1003(manjunath),29(audio)
[12:46] <Xtreme> ikonia, <Xtreme> anyone successfully installed speech recognition so far?
[12:46] <ikonia> Xtreme: right, so saying "anyone" gives no information"
[12:46] <ikonia> prakashbs: right, now, what is the sudo command you want to run ?
[12:46] <Ben64> Xtreme: chill out, not everyone remembers what you said 8 minutes ago
[12:46] <varikonniemi> so vm.swappiness = 0 should give me the swap behaviour i expect ?
[12:46] <prakashbs> sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:47] <kingbeast> bekks, pm sent
[12:47] <Xtreme> Ben64, well what to do? some chatrooms feels repeating question offending..
[12:47] <Xtreme> they are like "we read when you asked first time, no need to repeat"
[12:47] <Ben64> Xtreme: "anyone" is worse. repeat your question every 10 or 15 mins or so
[12:47] <ikonia> prakashbs: right, run theat command, when it asks for a password use the password for the user manjunath
[12:47] <Xtreme> so its really confusing what a person should do at times..
[12:47] <TomyLobo> Xtreme what you posed was a metaquestion
[12:47] <nearst> Xtreme, http://linuxsagas.digitaleagle.net/2012/02/25/voice-recognition-in-ubuntu/
[12:48] <TomyLobo> he wants to know you actual question
[12:48] <ikonia> Xtreme: repeating the question is the same as saying "anyone" just with less value
[12:48] <SolarisBoy> bekks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157793/why-is-swap-being-used-even-though-i-have-plenty-of-free-ram
[12:48] <TomyLobo> your*
[12:48] <prakashbs> ikonia: manjunath@JHSP-Manjunath:~$ sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS
[12:48] <prakashbs> [sudo] password for manjunath:
[12:48] <prakashbs> manjunath is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:48] <ikonia> prakashbs: there you go then
[12:48] <Xtreme> nearst, already tried, dint work.. hence the question
[12:48] <ikonia> prakashbs: that is the problem, your user is not in the sudo group
[12:48] <ikonia> prakashbs: so can't use sudo
[12:49] <SolarisBoy> i think it has to do with the complexity of "free memory" on systems (cached buffered etc) but the system does use swap on normal operations (unless you tell to absolutely not)
[12:49] <nearst> Xtreme, owh. ok
[12:49] <prakashbs> ikonia: basically, i want to give full access to user: manjunath for mounted drive
[12:49] <prakashbs> can you help me how to get it done?
[12:49] <ikonia> prakashbs: yes, but read what I said, the user you are askig for does not have sudo acceess
[12:50] <ikonia> prakashbs: when you installed ubunut, it creates a user for you, which user did it create
[12:50] <SolarisBoy> prakashbs: can you pastie the output of 'sudo -l' as manjunath on that box?
[12:50] <SolarisBoy> *pastebin
[12:50] <prakashbs> ikonia: that is jhsp
[12:50] <kingbeast> swap is the Linux paging partition, that is it
[12:51] <TomyLobo> [13:48:35] <Xtreme> nearst, already tried, dint work.. hence the question <-- this should be part of your question, then
[12:51] <TomyLobo> Xtreme http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
[12:51] <SolarisBoy> right and the reason it's used even when ram is not all used up is because of something to dow ith ^
[12:51] <ikonia> prakashbs: use that user eithera a.) add your user to the sudo group 2.) give the permission on  the file system you want
[12:51] <SolarisBoy> and it can be a paging file as well
[12:52] <nearst> ya. swap work like page file. ubuntu already use zram0 ;0
[12:52] <TomyLobo> page file is also called swap file *cough*
[12:52] <SunilJoshi> Hi, I am using Ubuntu12.10 and by using compiz , i mistakenly reset the ubuntu desktop and now no top bar and side bar are visible.. anyway to get it back?
[12:52] <SolarisBoy> this is getting redundant
[12:52] <dr_willis> SunilJoshi:  if you reset all settings.. it should go back to defaults..
[12:53] <kingbeast> bekks, was link enough?
[12:53] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: this is what i have done..i have clicked on restore to defaults.. and after that side bar and top bar is gone
[12:54] <SolarisBoy> eg setting swappiness 0 is cool for my desktop at home but i would never try it on a prod server or anything lol
[12:54] <dr_willis> SunilJoshi:  you mean in the ccsm tool you used restore to defaults?
[12:54] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: yes exactly
[12:54] <dr_willis> SunilJoshi:  i bet it turned off the Unity plugin
[12:54] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: yes i have seen that it is unchecked
[12:55] <dr_willis> so check it.. ;)
[12:55] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: ok sure, will try.. thanks !!
[12:56] <prakashbs> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600906/
[12:57] <prakashbs> i did ... I given g+w access to user.. and i ran mount -a command using root.. still i am facing same issue.. permission denied
[12:58] <prakashbs> bekks: i did sudo chmod g+w /media/JHSP-FS, still same problem
[12:58] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  what filesystem is that partion using?
[12:59] <bekks> prakashbs: It has to be mounted before running that command.
[12:59] <prakashbs> it's from iomega storage box.. I enabled windows file sharing in that
[12:59] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  so its some sort of network share you are telling us?>
[12:59] <SunilJoshi> dr_willis: thanks!! Now i can see them again :)
[12:59] <dr_willis> I dont think you just chown/chmod network shares that way
[12:59] <prakashbs> bekks: if i run that command after mounted,.. its giving  chmod: changing permissions of `/media/JHSP-FS': Permission denied
[13:00] <prakashbs> yes.. dr_willis
[13:00] <nearst> raring is fun :)
[13:00] <dr_willis> you dont chown/chmod samba shares
[13:00] <dr_willis> you must use the proper mount options for them i imagine
[13:00] <prakashbs> dr_willis: I want to mount that shared folder in all ubuntu machines.. i am able to mount it.. but i am not getting full access..
[13:01] <dr_willis> same as if they were on a windows machine
[13:01] <prakashbs> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1600778/
[13:01] <prakashbs> please refer that.. i given out put of mount and ls -ld
[13:02] <dr_willis> whats the fstab line for that share?
[13:02] <sakkemo> Hi, would this be sensible for HDD+SSD setup? SSD: / and /home, HDD: swap (for hibernate), most /home subfolders (Downloads, Videos etc.), which would be mounted in /home.
[13:02] <prakashbs> dr_willis: //<IP_ADDRESS>/worksdaily /media/JHSP-FS smbfs credentials=/home/manjunath/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[13:03] <tinti_> sakkemo: put swap in SSD too
[13:03] <dr_willis> !samba
[13:03] <dr_willis> I think you need differnt options in your fstab
[13:03] <nearst> afaik ssd no need to use swap options
[13:03] <tinti_> if butterfs were ready you could just create an array and use SSD as a cache for HDD
[13:03] <tinti_> :)
[13:03] <prakashbs> dr_willis: what options?
[13:04] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  no idea.. i say check that url the bot gave...
[13:04] <prakashbs>  please help me
[13:04] <prakashbs> dr_willis: i tried that weeks back
[13:04] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  id have to google them up.. or check the using-samba book thats in the  repos
[13:04] <sakkemo> tinti_: would you recommend that even if I get 8 GB of RAM and would probably need swap only for the hibernate?
[13:04] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[13:04] <dr_willis> its also possible the server needs to have some settings changed.
[13:04] <SunilJoshi> one more thing, compiz is taking so much CPU... anyway i can reduce it...
[13:04] <tinti_> because when you bootup if you get the image for swap it would be faster :)
[13:05] <tinti_> sakkemo: makes sense at least no?
[13:05] <Neonlajt> ubuntu 12.10 /w gnome-shell 3.6.2, user-themes plugin won't install. Unsure where to begin troubleshooting, any pointers :)?
[13:05] <dr_willis> your share is showing several differnt user ids (uids) for the files. if it shows the # theres not a matching user on the system,
[13:05] <prakashbs> dr_willis: just forgot to mention.. if i use the same shared folder.. using smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/worksdaily... then i get full access.. problem happening only when i access it through mounted drive
[13:06] <sakkemo> tinti_: thanks, I might do that as I probably won't run out of space in near future. Maybe I could even run a boot-up time comparison, if I can be bothered :P
[13:06] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  access it that way then look at the mount  output and see what options it used
[13:06] <tinti_> it is also a good idea to place some things in the ssd
[13:07] <dr_willis> i would think you need a uid= option for that user
[13:07] <tinti_> create /home/user and give permissions for you there. When using heavy build systems such as android build it is a good idea :)
[13:08] <prakashbs> dr_willis: if i use in that way.. it won' show up in mount
[13:08] <prakashbs> bekks: have u looked at output
[13:09] <prakashbs> ikonia: any help
[13:09] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  huh? ive definatly seen gvfs mounted things show up in the output of mount.
[13:10] <dr_willis> i would guess its passing a uid/gid option that matches that of your user.
[13:11] <prakashbs> dr_willis: can you help me solving this.. i am basic user to ubuntu
[13:11] <dr_willis> prakashbs:  I belive you need to be using a uid= and gid= options
[13:11] <dr_willis> /servername/sharename  /media/windowsshare  smbfs  username=guest,password=,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[13:12] <dr_willis> /servername/sharename  /media/windowsshare  smbfs  username=guest,password=,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[13:12] <dr_willis> from that wiki page...   If you need special permission (like chmod etc.), you'll need to add a uid (short for 'user id') or gid (for 'group id') parameter to the share's mount options.
[13:12] <prakashbs> uid=1000 or do i need to change?
[13:12] <killer> i installed bootloader on a usb ...and deleted it from my inbiult hard disk ...and when i try to load  the ubuntu installation on my internal hd...it says:"error: you should first load kernel"
[13:12] <dr_willis> depends on what uid you want to use...
[13:12] <dchevak> do any of you have problems updating
[13:13] <dr_willis> your listing showewd several differnt uid's being used.. that means samba is thinking the files are owned by differnt users
[13:13] <prakashbs> uid means user ID code?
[13:13] <Zentaur> hello
[13:13] <dr_willis> each user has a UID and GID
[13:14] <dr_willis> echi $UID and see yours
[13:14] <dr_willis> echo\
[13:14] <Zentaur> i'm partitioning my hdd and i don't know what kind of table must i use
[13:14] <Zentaur> msds, bsd, amiga...
[13:14] <dr_willis> Zentaur:  the dos or gpt one.. depending on what your system supports
[13:15] <Zentaur> thanks dr_willis
[13:15] <dchevak> I am running 12.04 server and always installs good but when I update and something happens to my connection and doesnt finish it messes something up
[13:16] <dchevak> I use apt-get then I tried aptitued
[13:16] <linux_is_my_hero> help, flash is broken in chrome on ubuntu 12.04.1
[13:16] <xnixan> Hi, my partition table is corrupted, i tried testdisk, but only recognize Win7 partition, but not rest of my ext4 Linux partitions :( is there anyone knows easy way to rescan hd and regenerate the right partition table
[13:19] <dchevak> http://askubuntu.com/questions/48717/how-to-manually-fix-a-partition-table
[13:22] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, I'm running Kubuntu 12.10. How would I go about upgrading to the latest official release of the AMD display driver without going outside apt (as I want to retain the ability to automatically update it later on)? I've been out of the Linux loop since the Debian Etch-era, and I don't think PPAs - which I'm not entirely sure what are, compared to regular repos - existed then. I googled around and found the PPA for X-Swat/X-
[13:22] <Dark_Apostrophe> Updates/whatever it's called, but I don't know how to proceed beyond having added it. Can't see any relevant packages in the package manager.
[13:22] <dr_willis> !ppa
[13:23] <dr_willis> if you want to use apt - you might have to use ppas
[13:23] <dr_willis> but the normal drivers in the repos work for most people.
[13:23] <Dark_Apostrophe> Alright - but which ones, and how?
[13:23] <nimo> im trying to create an upstart conf file to execute a script at every shutdown......  can i make it simple?
[13:23] <dr_willis> the addational drivers tool some times has newer drivers after they get tested
[13:24] <Dark_Apostrophe> Well, they do work - but I get the impression they're a bit laggy. Might be because it's a 7000-series card, requiring newer drivers?
[13:24] <dr_willis> Dark_Apostrophe:  more likely the drivers just suck. because its ATI/AMD we are talking about. ;)
[13:24] <Dark_Apostrophe> Well, never really used AMD graphics cards on Linux before.
[13:24] <dr_willis> x-swat  updates a lot of things.. and may not be a good idea.. unless you just want to try them
[13:25] <Dark_Apostrophe> Any other options?
[13:26] <dr_willis> use the addational drivers tool and see what drivers they are suggesting.. thats the safest thing to use.
[13:27] <dr_willis> some times they get updated to newer drivers./
[13:27] <nearst> raring is rock. solid and fast
[13:28] <dr_willis> the open sourced drivers have gotten decent for many cards i hear.
[13:28] <jammmn> Is there a command line tool for playing flac?
[13:28] <jammmn> Like mpg123 or mpg321?
[13:28] <dr_willis> theres numerous command line  audio players..   check the package manager.. i cant rember  their names
[13:28] <dr_willis> moc was one i recall?
[13:30] <jammmn> dr_will: I am now using mplayer.
[13:31] <dr_willis> !find moc
[13:31] <dr_willis> !find mocd
[13:32] <Dark_Apostrophe> dr_willis: There are two equally named AMD drivers in the additional drivers tool - with no description of the differences between them.
[13:32] <dr_willis> Dark_Apostrophe:  flip a coin then.. ;) or use whatever one is reccomended
[13:32] <Dark_Apostrophe> That's what I did originally :P
[13:33] <dr_willis> i have exactly 1 ati system in the house.. and its using the open sourced drivers
[13:33] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh, totally unrelated question: Is it possible to completely disable the HDMI audio output in ALSA/Gstreamer/Phonon? Every time I reboot, the OS sets that as the master output channel while I use analog out
[13:33] <dr_willis> i know better then to use ati on linux. ;)
[13:33] <Dark_Apostrophe> dr_willis: How's the performance? Specifically video playback?