[12:00] <northern_monk> feralgirl: try the ndiswrapper
[12:00] <leagris> I want no local cups server, just central lan cups server
[12:00] <_willcooke_> jodua_, hmmm.  try a "sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:00] <jodua_> k thanks
[12:00] <feralgirl> leagris: um...how? i'm a first time user
[12:00] <_willcooke_> jodua, Sorry, should have hit delete, not return.  Are you using backports?
[12:01] <shagg> _willcooke_ - still no love.  I'm getting errors now about not being able to get onto the mirrormax backports.  could this be the evil
[12:01] <jodua_> _willcooke_ i have no idea and i dunno how to check?
[12:01] <ZBlach> see, I can iwlist my network, and my iwconfig returns a great connection, but my router doesn't see me, and I can't surf anything
[12:01] <dseomn> jodua_: you would know if you were
[12:01] <jodua_> im quite new...sorry lol
[12:01] <eagleye> ompaul, can you please send me those links again, lost them by accident.. thanks
[12:01] <_willcooke_> shagg, aha! Yeah, you wont be able to fix until they sort the backports server, by which time I expect that the ff package will be fixed.
[12:01] <leagris> feralgirl, thank you for ready my question though. Best wishes for your new linux experiences BTW :)
[12:01] <jodua_> i really dont know ANYTHING about linux...
[12:02] <leagris> reaing
[12:02] <_willcooke_> jodua_, In which case you're not using backports.
[12:02] <eagleye> ompaul, Basically i am sol right, need to do the whole reinstall game again.
[12:02] <Travis|H> is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up a terminal (or a way to easily configure one)
[12:02] <_willcooke_> jodua_, do a "sudo apt-get update" and then when that's done do a "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[12:02] <dseomn> jodua_: you know the name and how to use irc, that's more than many people know
[12:03] <moparfan90> i just install americas army how do i run it? the game?
[12:04] <Antiliis> I have a problem I don't know if it's a bug: I can't type accented chars in console text mode. Any of you can type accented chars in console text mode?
[12:04] <amorph> does anyone can help me woth a sound-problem ? playback from console is perfect but with every gnome or kde-application the playback is interrupted every few seconds
[12:05] <leagris> amorph, I juste got ride of the arts sound wrapper
[12:05] <_willcooke_> amorph, what leagris said! :)
[12:05] <amorph_> leagris: how can i do this ?
[12:05] <leagris> artsd is a pain and sitll has been bulky, slow, delaying sounds :)
[12:06] <leagris> kcontrol, disable sound server in the sound area
[12:06] <jodua_> _willcooke_ i may have screwed something up a while ago when looking off a website...when i do the apt-get upgrade it lists this big thing "W; couldnt stat....."  a whole bunch of things that i changed a while back i cant remember what for....but there was a reason/...when i open snaptics it gives me the same error...i dunno if that has anything to do with it
[12:06] <jodua_> when i open snaptics "WARNING the following problems were found on your system:"
[12:06] <jodua_> and the list of things i changed
[12:06] <MachineScrew> yay acpi works
[12:06] <eagleye> If I got the error 18 message, Does it mean i have to reinstall,
[12:07] <Snopy_> how do i reset the /etc/apt/sources.list ? :D
[12:07] <leagris> because there are dependancies among the libarts so you can't completly get ride of it. Just diable it in kcontrol
[12:07] <jodua_> k i got back on lol
[12:07] <loststryk> anyone help me install sun-j2re ?
[12:07] <jodua_> _willcooke_ what was the last msg you saw me send?
[12:08] <slept> eagleye, where, when ? reinstall what , the whole system, grub, ... ?
[12:08] <eagleye> slept, hi
[12:08] <leagris> ompaul, you appear having quit good ubuntu knowledge. What is the correct ubuntu way of having system global settings for printing and not having to set it up for each users ?
[12:09] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok, do "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:09] <jodua_> _willcooke_ thats exactly what i changed a while back
[12:09] <eagleye> slept error 18 message when grub starts,, does this mean i have to reinstall again
[12:09] <jodua_> =/  i scrwed it up didnt i lol
[12:10] <jodua_> do you wanna know what is in there
[12:10] <_willcooke_> jodua_, Yeah, figures.  Let's delete the whole lot and use a known good one (i.e. mine!)
[12:10] <jodua_> hahah k thanks
[12:10] <MachineScrew> any one think KDE is better than GNOME ?
[12:11] <_willcooke_> Whats the name of that place where you can post large text files?
[12:11] <ZBlach> MachineScrew, no
[12:11] <ZBlach> _willcooke_ pastebin.com
[12:11] <MachineScrew> I think KDE has that Windows XP fisher price look
[12:11] <_willcooke_> ta!
[12:11] <jodua_> _willcooke_ ok...its all deleted
[12:11] <ago73> Hi
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> MachineScrew, that's why you change it
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> EXPORT IF=kde
[12:11] <MachineScrew> it still sucks
[12:11] <slept> eagleye, you got more than the number , any message ? I don't know the numbers of the grub errors .
[12:11] <MachineScrew> its slow
[12:11] <ali4728> newbie needs help ! I installed Courier along with squirrelmail to work with Postfix but I cant get to Start Courier! any idea?
[12:11] <puff> Whee, I have lame. So far, so good. Is there a tool that will convert oggs to mp3s?
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> MachineScrew, twm
[12:12] <kevin007> backports down?
[12:12] <MachineScrew> GNOME is faster
[12:12] <Ninjew> MachineScrew: I think that kde is better than gnome
[12:12] <ZBlach> any idea why I can't connect to my router in linux, but there's no problem in windows?
[12:12] <MachineScrew> na Enlightenment
[12:12] <Ninjew> MachineScrew: But its all a matter of personal preference
[12:12] <puff> My mp3 player can't handle ogg; gotta get a better player, but meanwhile.
[12:12] <MachineScrew> Ya
[12:12] <ago73> My shell (any shell) takes forever when I do tab autocompletion. Any idea?
[12:12] <MachineScrew> that is why we use Linux
[12:12] <leagris> hyperactivecrond, the best window manager is the one you use best and the one you ar much confortable with
[12:12] <MachineScrew> because we have a choce
[12:12] <_willcooke_> jodua_, http://pastebin.com/377252
[12:12] <Ninjew> indeed
[12:13] <jodua_> k thanks
[12:13] <eagleye> slept says, something to the fact that it cant recognize my drive because the grub is not near the front of my boot partition
[12:13] <hyperactivecrond> leagris, i know...
[12:13] <slept> eagleye, did you compile a kernel and compiled  the filesystem as a module?
[12:13] <eagleye> slept, im fairly new, thats greek to me..
[12:14] <jodua_> _willcooke_ is there anyway of copy pasting or do i have to type the whole thing?
[12:14] <_willcooke_> jodua_, You are using Hoary, right?!
[12:14] <leagris> hyperactivecrond, I used to like windowmaker on old boxens, kde on more powered ones
[12:14] <jodua_> yea yea lol
[12:14] <jodua_> i woulda said...i do know that much
[12:14] <hyperactivecrond> nice leagris
[12:14] <moparfan90> hello
[12:14] <_willcooke_> jodua_, select the text from postbin, right click, copy, right click in your nano window, paste
[12:14] <Snopy_> I get the error: "E: could not find package mozilla-player" Whats wrong?
[12:15] <jodua_> aswome..thanks alot eh!
[12:15] <moparfan90> i installed americas army and dont know how to play it. what do i do??
[12:15] <slept> eagleye, thats good than you didn't break things in that part
[12:15] <boxerboy29> anyone else get those gnome panel refresh errors when gnome starts?
[12:15] <flipy> Hi!
[12:16] <flipy> I'm trying to set up a web server, and a test fails trying to write in /var/www but the test runs from /var/www/test... where can I change that?
[12:16] <_willcooke_> jodua_, once you've saved that (ctrl-x in nano) do a "sudo apt-get clean"
[12:16] <eagleye> slept, I cant boot my system up, ompaul said its because my bios is not recognizing it right for some reason,
[12:16] <slept> eagleye, there are to things you can check: boot with a live cd and then chroot in your system and reinstall grub / have a look if bios settings for the drive are wrong
[12:16] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then and "sudo apt-get update" and a "sudo apt-get upgrade".  Then you should be back in business
[12:17] <jodua_> great! thanks...
[12:17] <jodua_> i will be back if i get trouble again lol...
[12:17] <slept> eagleye, you can change the settings for the hd in bios just try lba,...
[12:17] <jodua_> _willcooke_ really sorry....i can't get it to paste....how?
[12:18] <jodua_> lol
[12:18] <flipy> ehm where can I set up the permission directories for a web server?
[12:18] <eagleye> slept, I have to download a live cd. Is there a possibility that the live cd will save my install,... Lba is already set
[12:18] <_willcooke_> jodua_, You should be able to right click in the terminal window that has nano open in it and paste
[12:18] <jodua_> doesnt do anything wheni right click
[12:19] <kevin007> I think you can go up to the menu and past
[12:19] <kevin007> or click the middle mouse button
[12:19] <dell500> does open office support graphs?
[12:19] <kevin007> at least in vi that's how it works
[12:19] <_willcooke_> jodua_, try middle click if you've got a middle button
[12:19] <jodua_> k
[12:20] <jodua_> no luck...looking like i gotta type it
[12:20] <jodua_> wont take that long though
[12:20] <slept> eagleye,  try to change lba there is an other option that I cant remember the name of , just try all of them. That should be faster , and if the problem is in the bios the live-cd won't help.
[12:20] <_willcooke_> jodua_, no need.  Run "sudo gedit &"
[12:20] <carrarro> When you donw load an application, how do you install it?
[12:21] <hyperactivecrond> carrarro, a deb package?
[12:21] <eagleye> slept, i will try, be back soon
[12:21] <slept> good luck
[12:21] <mhz> hello
[12:21] <ali4728> Newbie needs Help Courier IMAP won't start! any help?
[12:21] <jodua_> thats all i type "sudo gedit &"
[12:21] <mhz> does anyone know about the official breezy cd cover??
[12:22] <funkyHat> lol. that's a strange question
[12:22] <carrarro> hyperactivecround: let's say Anjuta Development Environment
[12:22] <jodua_> _willcooke_ is that all i type...what you got in quotation?
[12:23] <_willcooke_> jodua_, yeah should load a gui text editor, then you'll need to open "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:23] <d2dchat> how come my firefox is all screwed up?
[12:23] <d2dchat> my firefox is missing text
[12:23] <jodua_> _willcooke_ k b/c we got another problem then....lol......
[12:23] <d2dchat> on everything
[12:23] <d2dchat> it opens just fine, but its missing text, anyway to fix it?
[12:23] <_willcooke_> jodua_, whats that
[12:24] <carrarro> When you donwload an application, how do you install it?
[12:24] <jodua_> _willcooke_ it says (gedit:7750): DTK-WARNING **: cannot open display
[12:24] <jodua_> i get that alot
[12:24] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok "xhost +"
[12:24] <leagris> d2dchat, try moving your ~/.mozilla folter to ~/.mozilla.old then create a new profile
[12:24] <leagris> folder
[12:24] <slept> carrarro, when you download with apt-get/aptitude install things get installed, if you downloaded a deb dpkg -i
[12:24] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then try gedit again
[12:24] <jodua_> _willcooke_  "xhost:  unable to open display"
[12:25] <jodua_> _willcooke_  lol...i might as well through out my laptop lol..feel like it
[12:25] <leagris> d2dchat, if that don't fix the missing text, the global install is screwed. BTW, it most often a screwed profile
[12:25] <shagg> _willcooke_ - found a fix for the Firefox 1.0.7 issue.  see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=367285#post367285.  basically, it's a forced remove of ff and ff-gnome-support and then a -f install.
[12:25] <carrarro> slept: I'm not sure about neither one.
[12:26] <Rickyniano> I have a problem I don't know if it's a bug: I can't type accented chars in console text mode. Any of you can type accented chars in console text mode?
[12:26] <d2dchat> leagris, ok, i did that, restarted firefox.. it opened up the ubuntu startup page but i still cant see any text
[12:26] <_willcooke_> shagg, that'll do it!  The way I did it was dpkg -i --force <ff packages> or something like that
[12:26] <leagris> d2dchat, did you try removing firefox then reinstalling it ?
[12:27] <d2dchat> yes
[12:27] <leagris> folle remove with config files as well ?
[12:27] <_willcooke_> jodua_, Erm.  Oh!
[12:27] <leagris> full ?
[12:27] <jodua_> lol....i can just type it out...
[12:27] <shagg> _willcooke_ - whatever works :)  cheers!
[12:27] <d2dchat> leagris, well i can follow the steps you want to verify a full reinstallation because im not exactly sure what a full reinstallation would require
[12:27] <slept> carrarro, man apt-get and man apt-cache will help you or use synaptic will help, I don't understand what you want to know
[12:28] <_willcooke_> jodua_, You have got gnome running right?
[12:28] <jodua_> yeah
[12:28] <_willcooke_> jodua_, Hmmm.  That's odd. ]
[12:28] <_willcooke_> jodua_, OK, new plan.....
[12:29] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k....yea i have lots of probs....lol...
[12:29] <jodua_> k new plan?
[12:29] <_willcooke_> jodaua_, Applications -> Accesories -> Text Editor
[12:29] <_willcooke_> click them
[12:30] <eagleye> slept, doesnt work, I see my drive only is recognized to 32 gig, but I have an 80 gig. I take it I need a bios update and i have to reinstall, right..
[12:30] <jodua_> k
[12:30] <absenth> for general desktop use, which file system has better overall performance, ReiserFS, or Ext3
[12:30] <_willcooke_> jodua_, do you get the notepad clone loading?
[12:30] <jodua_> yeah i have that opened now
[12:30] <jodua_> the unsaved document
[12:31] <ccooke> absenth: reiser is faster in some cases. But I've found it to be markedly less reliable than ext2/3
[12:31] <absenth> ccooke: less reliable in what sense?  not trying to nitpick, just trying to learn, and understand more.
[12:31] <_willcooke_> jodua_, right copy and paste that text from pastebin, use the text from the bottom bit so you dont get the line numbers
[12:32] <jodua_> k
[12:32] <slept> eagleye, slow down with your reinstallation panic. If the bios doesn't recognize the drive a reinstall wont help. You can use a floppy for the bios update. When the driv is recognized you don't have to reinstall ...
[12:32] <ccooke> absenth: we have a couple of terabyte storage servers at work - two different ones, with different stuff installed, but both running reiserfs.
[12:33] <ccooke> absenth: every three or four months on average, one of them will develop random filesystem corruption and need to be brought down to maintenance mode for fsck.
[12:33] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k got it...now for saving
[12:33] <eagleye> slept, so my install may come back, after i update the bios?
[12:33] <slept> yes
[12:33] <absenth> ccooke: so they loose data more frequently, or require file system checks more often then Ext2,3.  Now that makes perfect sense.  thank you for the explination.
[12:33] <_willcooke_> I know suse use reiserfs by default for some reason
[12:33] <eagleye> I hope so
[12:33] <ccooke> absenth: now, we've not yet lost anyting important, but...
[12:33] <d2dchat> whats the command to remove a directory and ignore the fact it has files under it
[12:33] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok, save it as anything you like in your home dir.
[12:34] <jodua_> in my home so like  /home/jodua    right there?
[12:34] <_willcooke_> jodua_, yup
[12:34] <absenth> ccooke: on the laptop I'm less worried about it, as there isn't anything terribly important.  but I could see having to perform maint. on the file system as a PITA
[12:34] <slept> d2dchat, rm -rf
[12:34] <jodua_> _willcooke_  ooooook
[12:34] <ccooke> absenth: generally, you're better off using ext2/3
[12:34] <d2dchat> slept, ty
[12:35] <ccooke> absenth: unless you have an actual use case for speed.
[12:35] <ccooke> absenth: I'd happily use resierfs for a news spool - after all, reiser makes a huge speed increase there and who cares if it fails...
[12:35] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok from a command prompt thingy do "cat <what ever you called the file>" (with out the "<" ">" 's)
[12:35] <jodua_> yea yea'
[12:35] <jodua_> k
[12:35] <ccooke> but for my root or home partitions? forget it.
[12:35] <absenth> ccooke: between Ext2 and Ext3 the major change is journaling correct?  On the laptop I'd bet Ext2 is a better choice as it would/might hit the drive less frequently.
[12:35] <_willcooke_> jodua_, is there right?  you can see the text?
[12:36] <jodua_> onesec
[12:36] <ccooke> absenth: ext3 is almost always a better choice. It *is* very slightly slower, mind, but it's very, very solid.
[12:36] <jodua_> _willcooke_  im sorry...from a command prompt?   do you mean in console?
[12:36] <ccooke> anyway. Sleep.
[12:37] <_willcooke_> jodua_, yeah, or xterm, or gterm
[12:37] <absenth> ccooke: thanks for the brief, but useful lesson in file systems :)
[12:37] <vbgunz> anyone here know why reading Windows made text files on Ubuntu is no problem yet creating a text file on Ubuntu to be read on Windows collapses?
[12:37] <jodua_> _willcooke_ i got xterm...so i just type cat fedup   I name it fedup
[12:38] <_willcooke_> jodua, :)
[12:38] <sunshine> ./tools/wineinstall
[12:38] <funkyHat> vbgunz, windows and linux use a different end of line character
[12:38] <absenth> ccooke: the best part is I feel like I got a good, solid, technical answer to my question, rather then the typical Fanboy crap I've been reading on a bunch of sites.
[12:38] <jodua_> _willcooke_ lol.....when i type it it says no directory
[12:38] <sunshine> join #WineHQ
[12:38] <ccooke> absenth: Glad I could help :-)
[12:38] <slept> vbgunz, ???
[12:38] <jodua_> cat: fedup: no such directory
[12:38] <funkyHat> vbgunz, and linux can cope with window's one, but not vice-versa
[12:38] <vbgunz> funkyHat: anyway to tell linux to use the Windows EOL?
[12:38] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok, so you cat it and you see the text from pastebin?  (we're nearly there, but you're right we could have typed it in by now)
[12:39] <_willcooke_> jodua_, do a "cd ~"
[12:39] <vbgunz> slept: hello
[12:39] <cafuego_> !find dos2unix
[12:39] <funkyHat> vbgunz, you should be able to find a program for windows that will cope with the linux format
[12:39] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then and "ls" can you see the file name listed?
[12:39] <jodua_> _willcooke_ lol.... ahhh i am so not getting this ...
[12:39] <jodua_> k i cant even do that cat
[12:40] <vbgunz> yeah I use SciTE on Windows and it handles it well... It is just out of curiosity for those people who receive a text file in which they wish to open in notepad and unsupported editors
[12:40] <_willcooke_> jodua_, relax guy!  Aint no thing
[12:40] <jodua_> when i type it it says "cat: fedup: no such file or directory"
[12:40] <cafuego_> jodua_: then you got the filename wrong.
[12:40] <vbgunz> funkyHat: thanks...
[12:41] <_willcooke_> jodua_, NP, perhaps you saved it somewhere else by mistake
[12:41] <jodua_> _willcooke_   uhhh but when i got to places and home folder...its there
[12:41] <jodua_> ?
[12:41] <funkyHat> ah right. no, i don't think there's a way to get notepad to recognise it :(
[12:42] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok from xterm do this....      cd ~
[12:42] <cafuego_> jodua_: does the filename perhaps start with a space?
[12:42] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then do..... pwd and tell me what is says
[12:43] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k when i did that it just said /root
[12:43] <brandonz> what programs do you use to do traffic shaping?
[12:43] <jodua_> cafuego nope no space
[12:43] <_willcooke_> jodua_, AHA! OK, do.... cd /home/whatever your user name is, e.g. cd /home/will
[12:44] <jodua_> _willcooke_ well when i put cd /home/jodua/ and put f and tab...it found fedup but when i pressed enter it still says no such file or directory?
[12:45] <_willcooke_> jodua_, s'ok, just "cd /home/jodua"
[12:45] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then "whoami"
[12:45] <_willcooke_> jodua_, what it say?
[12:45] <jodua_> root
[12:46] <_willcooke_> jodua_, right, ok.  so are you now in /home/jodua?
[12:46] <_willcooke_> jodua_, if so "cat fedup"
[12:47] <jodua_> _willcooke_   weooo that brought up something
[12:47] <_willcooke_> jodua_, s'all good!
[12:47] <jodua_> _willcooke_   yea thats what i got from you
[12:47] <jodua_> so now what
[12:48] <_willcooke_> jodua_, OK!  Right now "mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.fucked"
[12:48] <netmonk> can someone help me, pls! I upgraded to breezy and now I get the message that X server is not set correctly. how can i fix that?
[12:49] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then "cat fedup > /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:49] <fr33mind> Hi.  I used the prerelease since sunday... and today, I was asked if I want to install some new updates.  I say yes... and now, x.org doesn't work because of a problem with "sis" driver.  Something to do?
[12:49] <_willcooke_> jodua_, brb
[12:49] <jodua_> _willcooke_   a space between list and /etc right
[12:49] <jodua_> k
[12:49] <fr33mind> I was on Debian before.  I am new with ubuntu.
[12:49] <test34> netmonk, whats the exact error msg ? or you can try to reconfigure it: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:50] <_willcooke_> jodua_, yup
[12:50] <jodua_> _willcooke_   k so i did all that
[12:50] <fr33mind> The error is something like sis driver doesn't match x.org, not sure exactly.  I have only one computer (laptop) and I am on another OS now.
[12:51] <fr33mind> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:51] <fr33mind> the vga driver work... but in 640x480 :(
[12:51] <_willcooke_> jodua_, right one!  now "apt-get update"
[12:51] <netmonk> test34, it is "I  cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server ouput to diagnose the problem?" than i have only Yes as possible option
[12:51] <jodua_> _willcooke_   k wish me luck
[12:53] <test34> netmonk, try to reconfigure it: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:53] <jodua_> _willcooke_  seems to have worked...last line says "E: some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead"
[12:53] <test34> netmonk, whats the output if you say yes
[12:54] <_willcooke_> jodua_, apt-get clean
[12:54] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k
[12:54] <fr33mind> It's about the same problem than netmonk...
[12:55] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then.... apt-get update
[12:55] <jodua_> _willcooke_   same msg's
[12:55] <netmonk> test34, "I will disable this X server for now. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly."
[12:55] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok, ignore it.... apt-get upgrade
[12:56] <jodua_> _willcooke_  just to make sure...when it says after unpacking 3871kB dish space will be freed y or n....y right
[12:57] <_willcooke_> y = correct
[12:57] <fr33mind> netmonk: try to scroll the log!!  you will have a line begin with: EE:.....
[12:58] <fr33mind> Is there a generic driver better than vga?  I would like 1024x768
[12:58] <logan001101> hello
[12:58] <fr33mind> and I will wait sis driver update..
[12:59] <netmonk>  i tryed the dpkg-reconfigure but it didn't help. when i try apt-get update it can't find the i-net. how can i configure the lan card. i'm sorry for the dum questions...
[12:59] <Travis|H> is there any special tricks to getting the nvidia driver to work on breezy?
[12:59] <jodua_> _willcooke_  its still going...so should i be upgrading on a regular basis?
[12:59] <odd-> Hey.
[01:00] <_willcooke_> jodua_, if it ain't broke don't fix it is my rule (depending on how good your firewall is)
[01:00] <odd-> I have like 120 packages to upgrade. I'm not going to get started just yet.
[01:00] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k....i have lil other probs...like no sound in firefox i downloaded mozilla..sme thing
[01:00] <jodua_> _willcooke_  but is taht a common prob amongst ppl...i've read about it on forums
[01:00] <_willcooke_> jodua_, sound in what? movies, flash?
[01:00] <jodua_> _willcooke_  uhhh in flash
[01:01] <loststryk> can someone explian how i can get gftp to connect to glftpd auth tls required servers ?
[01:01] <lama_> can somebody help me patching xserver-xorg-driver-vesa package?
[01:01] <jodua_> _willcooke_  loh wait!
[01:01] <lexton> is ubuntu supposed to recognize mac os x on install?
[01:01] <lexton> I had to manaully configure yaboot to get mac os x booting to work
[01:02] <odd-> osx* is one word.
[01:02] <_willcooke_> jodua_, sorry, can't help.  very complicated problem.  mine just works!  (except I've disabled  ESD
[01:02] <jodua_> _willcooke_ i dont think i even have flash downloaded....like....going to think im wierd but...anywyas,.i went to peta.org and theres a lil window there for a video and i pressed play and no sound...but on ebaums it wants me to install a flash
[01:02] <lexton> odd - please
[01:02] <_willcooke_> should be fixed in the next reliease
[01:02] <_willcooke_> releas
[01:02] <_willcooke_> release
[01:02] <lexton> _willcooke_, are you answering my questioN?
[01:02] <odd-> Isn't it much harder to configure your DHCP when you have a dial-up connection?
[01:03] <_willcooke_> lexton, sorry now
[01:03] <_willcooke_> no
[01:03] <odd-> I had a dial-up connection a long time ago, I ran windows at the time.
[01:03] <odd-> So ... belh
[01:03] <odd-> bleh aswell.
[01:03] <lama_> loststryk, normally (if you compile from source) you have at the protocol drop-down menu a FTPS option
[01:03] <nalioth> lexton: ubuntu is supposed to recognize osx, yes
[01:03] <lexton> nalioth, it didn't for me
[01:04] <reter> hi
[01:04] <_willcooke_> jodua_, have a look at www.ubuntuguide.org - it should talk you though it
[01:04] <nalioth> lexton: are you using breezy?
[01:04] <fr33mind> Is it possible to downgrade today upgrades ???
[01:04] <reter> how do i get my printer to work on ubuntu?
[01:04] <reter> how do i add my printer to the OS
[01:04] <nalioth> _willcooke_: please dont recommend that site
[01:04] <odd-> I'm using hoary..
[01:04] <jodua_> _willcooke_ k great.....i couldn't even get mplayer to work in here and totem that came with it doent work
[01:04] <lexton> nalioth what are you asking? the verions of ubuntu?
[01:05] <_willcooke_> jodua_, look at installing codecs in the guide
[01:05] <odd-> There are three arent there 4 + kubuntu
[01:05] <odd-> 5 + edubuntu
[01:05] <reter> how do i add my printer to ubuntu?
[01:05] <nalioth> lexton: are you installing hoary or breezy?
[01:05] <_willcooke_> jodua_, got to go, it's late here.  Good luck.  I'll be back tomorrow if you are still stuck
[01:06] <jodua_> _willcooke_ alrighty.....hahah but what if i fawk up again and change something like what you gave me haha lol...
[01:06] <jodua_> _willcooke_ k later thanks ALOT
[01:06] <lexton> nalioth, not sure --> ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-powerpc.iso
[01:06] <lexton> breezy probably
[01:06] <_willcooke_> jodua_, copy /etc/apt/sources.list to /etc/apt/sources.list.knowngood just in case!
[01:06] <reter> is there anyway to add my printer?
[01:06] <nalioth> lexton: breezy. you are lucky it completed the install, last weeks hung on yaboot search for other OS's
[01:07] <lexton> nalioth, uname output is --> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-powerpc #1 Tue Aug 30 23:03:49 BST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux
[01:07] <jodua_> _willcooke_ lol..k...thanks
[01:07] <lexton> nalioth, indeed!
[01:07] <loststryk> can anyone help with gftp for a few minutes ?
[01:07] <lexton> I just started using ubuntu
[01:08] <lexton> it's fast on ppc hardware
[01:08] <lexton> faster then os x
[01:08] <odd-> Sometimes I can't open the shell and shit, just crap issues
[01:09] <lexton> has anyone gotten the dlink dwl-122 wifi usb adaptor working on ubuntu?
[01:09] <nalioth> lexton: just keep in mind that breezy is still in production AND ppc and amd64 arches are behind in everything
[01:09] <lexton> indeed
[01:09] <Nikopol> loststryk, what's your problem?
[01:10] <nalioth> lexton: i have several macs with ubuntu on them
[01:10] <lexton> nalioth, have you gotten kismet running on ppc hardware with ubuntu?
[01:10] <nalioth> lexton: nope
[01:10] <nalioth> lexton: it's doable, tho, i just havent felt the need
[01:10] <mhz> where can I get the official cd cover from???
[01:11] <lexton> I'm going to give it a shot
[01:12] <thehil>  does anyone know if there is a syntax highlighting GUI for umb-scheme?
[01:13] <nalioth> lexton: if you have diffeculties, gimme a shout and i'll put you in contact with another ppc user who has done it
[01:13] <loststryk> Nikopol, i replied, are you recieving ?
[01:13] <Nikopol> loststryk, no
[01:13] <lexton> thanks nalioth
[01:13] <Nikopol> loststryk, seems to be a problem
[01:13] <Nikopol> ok let's do it here
[01:14] <Nikopol> what's the problem loststryk ?
[01:14] <loststryk> gftpd works fine; it's great; apart from one thing; it wont connect to glftpd / drftpd servers that require auth tls authentication; any ideas ?
[01:14] <esac_> anybody using evolution with exchange ? i try to add an account and all it asks for is a username (and doesn't let me hit forward)
[01:14] <iL_padrino> hi
[01:14] <Nikopol> loststryk, sorry not sure there
[01:15] <Nikopol> loststryk, not a problem I've come up against :(
[01:15] <iL_padrino> i need some like http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[01:15] <iL_padrino> but for ubuntu
[01:15] <Nikopol> I'll have a look around and see what I can find though loststryk
[01:15] <loststryk> :( whats the correct command to install a .deb file ?
[01:15] <funkyHat> how easy would it be to use an ubuntu live CD as a temporary dhcp server?
[01:15] <iL_padrino> for search the depends of gcc-3.4
[01:16] <iL_padrino> any one can helpme ???
[01:16] <Nikopol> loststryk, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[01:16] <dad> hi all
[01:16] <dad> its dad again
[01:16] <funkyHat> hi dad
[01:16] <loststryk> ty L(
[01:16] <loststryk> :)
[01:17] <dad> my dsl ruputer broke dwown any suggestions?
[01:17] <Nikopol> loststryk, glad I could at least help u there! ;)
[01:17] <marcin_ant> hi all
[01:17] <funkyHat> get a new one? :D
[01:17] <marcin_ant> got some short and simple questions
[01:17] <dad> lol its 700 buks
[01:18] <Nikopol> loststryk, you have configured the tls file correctly yeah?
[01:18] <marcin_ant> what firewall front-end is preferred for ubuntu/gnome?
[01:18] <dad> my tremble fans malfunctioning too
[01:18] <dad> can someone lend me 900 buks
[01:18] <funkyHat> :| 700$ for a dsl router?
[01:18] <dad> lol im just bein stuopid
[01:19] <dad> this is his kid
[01:19] <dad> lol
[01:19] <loststryk> Nikopol, not sure
[01:19] <loststryk> am still new to ubuntu
[01:19] <dad> lol no msn in linux
[01:19] <arcanistherogue> hey, i have a question about the repositores
[01:19] <dad> booooring
[01:19] <arcanistherogue> *repositories
[01:19] <Nikopol> ok that may be the issue
[01:19] <bimberi> marcin_ant: i've seen firestarter often recommended
[01:19] <loststryk> how can i check ?
[01:19] <Nikopol> loststryk, does the tls auth worth with other servers?
[01:19] <arcanistherogue> i have been getting alot of 404s this past week, many broken packages
[01:20] <Nikopol> if it does then that's probably not the problem
[01:20] <marcin_ant> bimberi, heh I use firestarter and got a little problem with it
[01:20] <loststryk> no gftp wont give me the option to connect sftp etc
[01:20] <brad[] > dad: Eh? I'm on MSN right now
[01:20] <brad[] > k
[01:20] <marcin_ant> I would like to speed up my browser a little so I installed and configured squid
[01:20] <arcanistherogue> is this normal?  I was thinking perhaps because breezy is coming out soon, and support for hoary is winding down.  am i right?  I wasn't here for the upgrade to hoary, i dont know what happens...
[01:20] <marcin_ant> as transparent proxy
[01:21] <Nikopol> mmm
[01:21] <marcin_ant> the problem is that I don't know how to configure iptables to redirect traffic from port 80 to my proxy
[01:21] <marcin_ant> and how to configure iptables to do this on requests from localhost
[01:21] <marcin_ant> and finally how to do this in firestarter scripts
[01:22] <Nikopol> loststryk, really at a loss here
[01:22] <netmonk> is it possible to activate a network profile from the command line?
[01:22] <loststryk> gonna try kasablanca see if that helps
[01:22] <Nikopol> loststryk, tell me what you're trying to do
[01:22] <Nikopol> ok
[01:22] <Nikopol> loststryk, are you trying to use the client to transfer files to another server
[01:22] <loststryk> i know ssl is installed and working, because pftpfxp-mew is wrokign fine for fxp'ing between such auth tls servers
[01:23] <linner> hello everyone
[01:23] <mewthree> please, does someone have links for java jre and w32codecs?
[01:23] <Nikopol> ah so it's solely gftp that's playing up then?
[01:23] <nalioth> arcanistherogue: support for hoary will go on for many months
[01:23] <loststryk> yup
[01:23] <nalioth> mewthree: yes. hoary or breezy?
[01:23] <horetore> hi everyone, is there a guide somewhere to installing ruby properly on ubuntu (breezy)?
[01:23] <arcanistherogue> nalioth: oh... then why am i getting so many errors with the repositories, and will these be fixed when i upgrade to breezy?
[01:24] <nalioth> arcanistherogue: after oct 13, yees
[01:24] <Nikopol> http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~jonni/gftpd/ssl_and_tls_gftpd.HOWTO
[01:24] <Nikopol> you tried that loststryk ?
[01:24] <arcanistherogue> nalioth: awesome!! is that when breezy is coming out, and can i order cds of it ?
[01:24] <nalioth> arcanistherogue: if you order cds now, you'll most likely get breezy ones
[01:24] <arcanistherogue> niiice!
[01:26] <mewthree> i need java and W32codecs... does someone have repositories or links for Hoary?
[01:26] <rob_p> marcin_ant:  I've done what you are trying to do with iptables...  If you're interested in the commands, I could probably find them on my old server for you...
[01:26] <nalioth> mewthree: here you go http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[01:26] <Bartimaeus> hey, can anyone tell me how to upgrade to breezy?
[01:26] <loststryk> ok kasablanca works a dream :)
[01:26] <jroes> what's a really conservative setting for X with respect to monitors?  I've tried knoppix on two diff machines with the same monitor, and the monitor just shuts off when X starts
[01:26] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: sure. read the channel /topic
[01:26] <Nikopol> loststryk, stick with that then :D
[01:26] <mewthree> THX u, nalioth
[01:27] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, thank you
[01:27] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: read ubuntuguide.org
[01:27] <arcanistherogue> nalioth: your right, it says 5.10 cds. thanks.  im gonna order like 20 this time :D
[01:27] <Nikopol> loststryk, gftp has been quite unstable in some of the recent releases so stick with what works ;)
[01:27] <nalioth> IorGie: please dont recommend that
[01:27] <IorGie> why?
[01:27] <nalioth> arcanistherogue: convert your friends
[01:28] <arcanistherogue> :D
[01:28] <Nikopol> loststryk, bummer :(
[01:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IorGie about ubuntuguide
[01:28] <jroes> anyone know some really conservative hsync and vsync values ?
[01:28] <Nikopol> for the basic setting up of repos ubuntuguide isn't bad, no?
[01:29] <nalioth> Nikopol: if you want a dead box within a month, sure it's fine
[01:29] <Nikopol> nalioth, really?  Hi all! One of our rotation servers just split. Looking into the problem now
[01:31] <mewthree> does someone experience X crashes with radeon after properly installing fglrx 8.16.20?
[01:31] <Zeke1> how do u set apt-get to get from another site?
[01:31] <Nikopol> nalioth, ok - I'll watch out to not recommend it then. is it the backports you're referring to or the marillat?
[01:32] <IorGie> or multiverse?
[01:32] <Nikopol> Zeke1, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <nalioth> Nikopol: marillat will definitely kill your box. backports are not advised for constant use
[01:32] <nalioth> IorGie: universe and multiverse are fine
[01:32] <Nikopol> thanks nalioth - good to know
[01:32] <Zeke1> Nikopol, and where can i find a list of sites
[01:32] <IorGie> ok thanks, i'll keep that in mind when advising others
[01:33] <nalioth> Nikopol: IorGie: you can get the sources like this
[01:33] <nalioth> !sources
[01:33] <ubotu> sources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:34] <Nikopol> nalioth, cool will remember that
[01:34] <Bartimaeus> hey all, is there an easy way to install java on breezy?
[01:34] <Nikopol> Zeke1, you don't have any pertuclar ones in mind?
[01:34] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[01:34] <Nikopol> !respositories
[01:34] <ubotu> Not a clue, Nikopol
[01:34] <Nikopol> !respository
[01:34] <ubotu> Nikopol: I give up, what is it?
[01:34] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, thanks
[01:35] <billythekid> Hey, do you guys know how to uninstall ubuntu?
[01:35] <nalioth> Nikopol: /msg ubotu repos
[01:35] <Zeke1> Nikopol, is there a South african one
[01:35] <Nikopol> nalioth, thanks ;)
[01:35] <nalioth> billythekid: yes, a windows install will do nicely
[01:35] <billythekid> theres no way to get my E drive back?
[01:36] <gloria> is this chat line for the world's smartest linux users???  I have it and dont know how to work with it. I need help with it
[01:36] <nalioth> billythekid: we need more info
[01:36] <billythekid> cause I erased a whole bunch of shit on my E drive when I installed Ubuntu.
[01:36] <nalioth> gloria: ask us
[01:36] <billythekid> Now, it doesn't even say that the E drive exists.
[01:36] <nalioth> billythekid: if you erased it, it's gone
[01:36] <billythekid> I didn't erase it, I made a 5 gb partition to install Ubuntu onto.
[01:36] <billythekid> And now it doesn't show any reminance of it.
[01:36] <IorGie> on your E drive?
[01:36] <billythekid> yeah
[01:37] <nalioth> billythekid: did you use partition magic to make your partition?
[01:37] <IorGie> you made a partition on the free space?
[01:37] <billythekid> I used whatever came with the Ubuntu install CD
[01:38] <firis400> salut
[01:38] <billythekid> No, I just made a partition on the E drive
[01:38] <billythekid> Cause I knew there was about 5 gigs free
[01:38] <gloria> is there a web site that I can look up and get an idea what im working with??
[01:38] <nalioth> gloria: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[01:38] <IorGie> and now you can access it from within ubuntu?
[01:38] <firis400> hy
[01:38] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, is there anything special i need to do to install kava when it's downloaded?
[01:38] <firis400> hy
[01:39] <linner> firis400: hello
[01:39] <billythekid> Access what?
[01:39] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: it's a standard .deb file
[01:39] <firis400> hello
[01:39] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, so do i just run it?
[01:39] <IorGie> your data on the E drive
[01:39] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: are you familiar with installing deb files?
[01:40] <billythekid> No, I can't view anything on the E drive.
[01:40] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, nope
[01:40] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: it's quite easy.
[01:40] <Samhain> how do I install the install-sh?
[01:40] <Samhain> I need it to compile something
[01:40] <firis400> E drive
[01:40] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, how do i do it?
[01:40] <linner> i'm trying to figure out if I should try kubuntu... but i want to know the advantages over GNOME...
[01:40] <IorGie> did you mount the partition you want to access?
[01:40] <billythekid> Don't linner
[01:41] <billythekid> it's a hassle
[01:41] <billythekid> Um..  mount the partition?
[01:41] <firis400> do you speak french
[01:41] <linner> billythekid: why?
[01:41] <billythekid> petit peu
[01:41] <firis400> ok
[01:41] <Nikopol> firis400, oui pourquoi?
[01:41] <billythekid> Nothings compatible with it
[01:41] <adjacent> just me or were there alot of upgrades in breezy today?
[01:42] <linner> wow.....
[01:42] <firis400> parce que moi je parle francai
[01:42] <linner> hello netsplit... again
[01:42] <IorGie> billythekid: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[01:42] <firis400> bye
[01:42] <Bartimaeus> all, does anyone know how to install a .deb file?
[01:42] <Nikopol> firis400, ok - tu cherches de l'aide en francais?
[01:42] <linner> billythekid: what do you mean "nothing" is compatible?
[01:42] <firis400> oui
[01:42] <linner> i thought it was the same build as ubuntu but with the kde desktop
[01:42] <Nikopol> firis400, quel est ton probleme?
[01:42] <lama_> Nikopol: isnt an player name from Immortels film?
[01:42] <Samhain> what is install.sh?
[01:42] <thinman> i can not send mail at local user, but i can send mail to the world...can someone give me a tips how to solve the problem
[01:42] <timmow> Bartimaeus dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:43] <billythekid> i don't know, linner.  don't listen to me
[01:43] <Bartimaeus> timmow, thanks
[01:43] <firis400> non je parle pas bien anglais
[01:43] <linner> billythekid: ok... at least you're honest
[01:43] <Nikopol> lama_, correct though it was comic strips originally by Enki Bilal
[01:43] <thinman> i am using postfix
[01:43] <timmow> Bartimaeus: youw will have to use sudo
[01:43] <nalioth> firis400: en #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[01:43] <adjacent> !tell me about flash
[01:43] <Nikopol> firis400, pas un probleme :)
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[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> !ops
[01:43] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[01:44] <billythekid> who the hell gets their jollies off that?
[01:44] <adjacent> haha. nice
[01:44] <timmow> linner: kubuntu takes over your gnome menus
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> billythekid: really, really sad people
[01:44] <lama_> Nikopol, l'actrice etait vraiment belle. Miss France de l'annee 1994 si je trompe pas
[01:44] <thoreauputic> firis400: tu peux joindre #ubuntu-fr
[01:44] <nalioth> how unoriginal, too
[01:44] <firis400> do you have msn
[01:44] <nalioth> francais en #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[01:44] <Nikopol> lama_, qqchose Hardy je pense
[01:44] <linner> thank you
[01:44] <linner> nalioth: i was trying to figure out how to do that
[01:44] <timmow> in fact anyone know what happens if you install kubuntu under a different user name? or is there a way to stop it cluttering up gnome in a KDE way?
[01:44] <Nikopol> oups ok nalioth :)
[01:45] <linner> god lord!  what is going on???  netsplits all over the place
[01:45] <nalioth> timmow: nothing will happen. you have to use sudo to install anything
[01:45] <firis400> do you have msn
[01:45] !dmwaters:*! Hi all! This rotation server seems to still be having problems. We've shut down the ircd on that box for now, and we'll keep checking on it.
[01:45] <Nikopol> firis400, no
[01:45] <firis400> ok
[01:45] <resiak> Nikopol: Ping
[01:46] <Nikopol> resiak, pong
[01:46] <bimberi> linner|STARBUCKS: there was a global notice - "We're experiencing problems with a main rotation server"
[01:46] <firis400> how old are you
[01:46] <esac_> is anybody using eclipse with c# ? if so, what do i install to get c# functionality ?
[01:46] <timmow> nalioth: ok so the menus are global?  I suppose that is obvious really :) Sorry
[01:47] <firis400> how old are you
[01:47] <Nikopol> firis400, neither here nor there - you want French Ubuntu support join ubuntu-fr
[01:47] <linner|STARBUCKS> firis400: this is a ubuntu chat channel... do you have a question about ubuntu?
[01:47] <bob2> firis400: please?
[01:47] <nalioth> firis400: ask your a/s/l stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:47] <resiak> Nikopol: Well then
[01:47] <Arkainium> lol
[01:48] <linner|STARBUCKS> bimberi: oh okay.... i didn't see that... thanks!
[01:48] <crimsun> esac_, http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/esharp/
[01:48] <firis400> ther is no ubuntu fr
[01:49] <thoreauputic> hey linner|STARBUCKS - how's it all going?  :)  That's why I'm on my windows partition right now
[01:49] <Arkainium> is there a way to disable hal in gnome so I don't keep getting that message?
[01:49] <billythekid> man, that link you gave me isn't working, iorgie
[01:49] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: but thanks for asking! :)
[01:49] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: :(
[01:50] <thoreauputic> heh
[01:50] <firis400> bot how old are you
[01:50] <billythekid> i can't mount the E drive
[01:50] <IorGie> you cant mount a drive, you have to mount the partition
[01:50] <Nikopol> firis400, what do you want from this?
[01:50] <nalioth> firis400: this is a help channel, not a socializing one, please ask your a/s/l stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:50] <firis400> b
[01:50] <linner|STARBUCKS> firis400: seriously ... this is an UBUNTU q/a session only.... please either join another basic channel or take your offtopic socializing to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:50] <thoreauputic> firis400: #ubuntu-fr
[01:50] <firis400> bye
[01:51] <billythekid> okay, iorgie.  that makes no sense to me.  I don't even know what the partition is called
[01:51] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: if I could at least get the clock working properly... then I could use it a little more...
[01:51] <arkanes> !tell arkanes about w32
[01:51] <billythekid> you mean the label of the partition?
[01:51] <IorGie> billythekid: how many partitions are there?
[01:51] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: so for now i'm going to have to use the windows partition until the final breezy is released
[01:51] <billythekid> i don't know!
[01:51] <billythekid> is there a way to see them?
[01:51] <billythekid> there should only be 3 partitions
[01:51] <Nikopol> would gparted help in this situation?
[01:51] <billythekid> 1 on the C drive, and 2 on the E drive
[01:52] <nalioth> billythekid: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:52] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: how's everything on your side/
[01:52] <linner|STARBUCKS> ?
[01:52] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: hmm - OK.  sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate  doesn't reset your clock ?
[01:52] <linner|STARBUCKS> bimberi: thank you for the lilo notice... :)
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: well, immediately yes... but it doesn't keep it updated
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> :(
[01:53] <thinman> i can not send mail at local user, but i can send mail to the world...can someone give me a tips how to solve the problem
[01:53] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: I just discovered "synergy" - cool little prog that lets me use mouse and keyboard on two mavhines at once :D
[01:53] <lama_> can somebody help me patching the xserver-xorg package?
[01:53] <billythekid> fdisk -l [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK
[01:53] <billythekid> what would i replace DISK with?
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: oh how cool is that?
[01:53] <lama_> I have trouble with it.
[01:53] <tritium> hi linner|STARBUCKS
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: send me the link... I'd like to check it out
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> tritium: hey sweetie :)
[01:53] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: it's like magic *grin* !
[01:53] <bimberi> linner|STARBUCKS: no worries! - could you order me one of those grand-giraffe-choco-whateveries please? :)
[01:53] <tritium> :)
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: LOL
[01:54] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: apt-cache search synergy  :)
[01:54] <Nikopol> how does one extract files from a .cab file?
[01:54] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: it's in universe
[01:54] <IorGie> billythekid: just "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:54] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: oh okay... i'll give it a whirl when I'm back on the ubuntu boot
[01:55] <linner|STARBUCKS> since i have to be wireless right now i'm using windoze
[01:55] <bob2> thinman: you need to define the problem more strictly. for instance, what does your mail log say?
[01:55] <billythekid> i did that, iorgie
[01:55] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS:  http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/running.html
[01:55] <nalioth> Nikopol: install "cabextract"
[01:55] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: oh you rock man
[01:55] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: it works with windows too, apparently
[01:55] <Nikopol> nalioth, thank you
[01:55] <firis400> ho speak french
[01:55] <os2mac> linner you got it working?
[01:55] <timmow> lama_ what sort of patch?
[01:55] <Nikopol> firis400, stop it
[01:55] <nalioth> firis400: #ubuntu-fr s'il vous plait
[01:56] <firis400> merde
[01:56] <IorGie> billythekid: if there is just one hardrive you can use /dev/hda for DISK
[01:56] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: does it have to be a wireless keyboard?
[01:56] <tritium> firis400: careful
[01:56] <Nikopol> s/he's not looking for help at all
[01:56] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: hello :)  nope... :(
[01:57] <os2mac> sorry.
[01:57] <os2mac> I am back on mine.
[01:57] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: so rather than buggin' everyone for more help... i'm just going to let it sit until the final version comes out and cross my fingers that I get the resolution to these pesky problems
[01:57] <firis400> shut up
[01:57] <linner|STARBUCKS> wow
[01:57] <billythekid> this is fucking shit
[01:57] <billythekid> i just want to erase it
[01:57] <billythekid> gah
[01:57] <os2mac> hmmm
[01:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell firis400 about conduct
[01:58] <daaku> anyone use vnc to connect to windows? i need to figure out a way to lock the desktop without vnc kicking me out!
[01:58] <os2mac> at work
[01:58] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: what's been going on there?
[01:58] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: are you guys doing a conversion to linux?
[01:59] <mentok> i've used vnc on windows before, but only on the server end with someone else connecting
[01:59] <billythekid> i don't suppose that there's a partitioning program built right into ubuntu?
[01:59] <nalioth> billythekid: yes, parted for console or qt- or g- for a gui
[01:59] <Nikopol> billythekid, there kind of is but all partitioning is risky
[01:59] <linner|STARBUCKS> billythekid: I believe yes there is
[01:59] <IorGie> billythekid: sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:59] <os2mac> ohhh no...  Acces data on your E drive? Or tying to erase it?
[02:00] <billythekid> access
[02:00] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: oh................
[02:01] <timmow> does anyone else have any problems with one million mono processes randomly running and locking up their system? If I could diagnose it better I would...
[02:01] <os2mac> and I have a bunch of really expensive peripherals.
[02:01] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: forgive me... I'm just now reading (actually right this very second) about all the different *nixs
[02:01] <IorGie> just find out whats the partition is called and then mount it,
[02:01] <Nikopol> timmow, mono can do that ;)
[02:01] <linner|STARBUCKS> wb tritium
[02:01] <billythekid> i have no clue how to find out what it's called!
[02:01] <timmow> do I just have to live with it?
[02:01] <tritium> thanks, linner|STARBUCKS
[02:01] <os2mac> do a google for Trusted Solaris.
[02:01] <linner|STARBUCKS> ok
[02:02] <nalioth> billythekid: install gparted and have a look
[02:02] <billythekid> i did
[02:02] <IorGie> how many hard drives do you have
[02:02] <Nikopol> so fire up gparted
[02:02] <billythekid> i'm looking at it right now.  it says i only have one: /dev/hda1
[02:02] <billythekid> which isn't true
[02:02] <Nikopol> only one partition?
[02:02] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: i'm reading a review on it now rather than the manu's specs
[02:02] <billythekid> cause this is installed on my secondary drive
[02:02] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: re; 09:56 < linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: does it have to be a wireless keyboard?
[02:02] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: answer is "no"
[02:02] <os2mac> hehe
[02:03] <mentok> has anyone tried a iPod color out as far as partitioning goes?
[02:03] <billythekid> it has that then one 'unallocated' partition
[02:03] <IorGie> are you sure you selected the right hard drive in gparted?
[02:03] <billythekid> AH
[02:03] <billythekid> smart guy!
[02:03] <billythekid> yeah i got the right one now
[02:03] <IorGie> ;)
[02:03] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: lord that's expensive...
[02:03] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: a grand per seat?
[02:03] <Nikopol> billythekid, good :D
[02:03] <linner|STARBUCKS> jeez
[02:03] <os2mac> from Sun's site
[02:03] <os2mac> Offering unmatched levels of privacy, increased accountability and reduced risk of security violations - and proven effective in Government, Intelligence and Security agencies and gaining a foothold in Finance, Healthcare, Retail, and other industries - the Trusted Solaris Operating System (OS) provides built-in security on a commercial-grade OS. With the Trusted Solaris OS, users from the desktop to the data center continue to reduce security
[02:03] <os2mac> urity of their networks.
[02:03] <nalioth> os2mac: please, mister dont paste like that
[02:04] <os2mac> I am done...
[02:04] <os2mac> sorry
[02:04] <billythekid> okay, it has the 5 Gig partition, which I created for Ubuntu.  then it has the 14 Gb 'unallocated'
[02:04] <nalioth> os2mac: the URL would be fine, if offtopic
[02:04] <nalioth> billythekid: your E: data is gone
[02:04] <billythekid> shit
[02:04] <os2mac> and yes it's very expensive but not nearly as expensive as the peripherals.
[02:05] <billythekid> the main thing is to get the whole thing visible though, then I'm gonna run a data-recovery program
[02:05] <billythekid> cause my mom is pissed
[02:05] <billythekid> i deleted a bunch of her stuff by accident
[02:05] <nalioth> billythekid: i wish you the best of luck
[02:05] <billythekid> haha thanks
[02:06] <billythekid> hrm. okay. i'm out. thanks for your help
[02:06] <IorGie> if you have windows on the other drive you could give it a try, best luck though
[02:06] <IorGie> nalioth: Seem like a lot of users hit the return button to many times when installing ubuntu and erase their whole drive
[02:07] <nalioth> IorGie: one does need to be careful when setting up for ubuntu
[02:07] <agushi> hey!!
[02:08] <agushi> n e 1 there?
[02:08] <IorGie> true, very true, not only for ubuntu though
[02:08] <Nikopol> There's also a weird quirk in windows with empty space
[02:08] <absenth> IorGie, nalioth, I managed to do that with cAos 2.2  and it wasn't for lack of care.  I just fsck'd up in cfdisk.  :/
[02:08] <Nikopol> if you delete some unused data space it will render XP unbootable
[02:09] <Nikopol> not Ubuntu's fault but some stupid programming on the Redmond front
[02:09] <reter> what are the current backports repositories
[02:09] <absenth> reter I'm informed that backports = the spawn of satan.
[02:10] <reter> i added this   eb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[02:10] <nalioth> reter: for hoary?
[02:10] <reter> but that is no longer working
[02:10] <reter> yes nalioth
[02:10] <nalioth> reter: you are missing a "d"
[02:10] <reter> nalioth, i meant to add the d there... but that site is down or something
[02:10] <reter> is there another one
[02:11] <nalioth> reter: planet.ubuntulinux.org  search for "backport"
[02:11] <gloria> how can I download music from the net
[02:11] <nalioth> gloria: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:11] <Bartimaeus> *
[02:12] <adjacent> hmm. the wiki is saying to use flashplugin-nonfree. does this exist for breezy?
[02:12] <IorGie> gloria: you might want to try aMule
[02:13] <Nikopol> nalioth, actually cabextract wouldn't work but unshield did. :)
[02:13] <vbgunz> how do you connect to a Windows share?
[02:13] <nalioth> Nikopol: ty 4 info
[02:13] <bimberi> vbgunz: Places -> Connect To Server...
[02:14] <loststryk> i need java runtime installed
[02:14] <loststryk> ugh
[02:14] <vbgunz> under network configuration i do not have options to set workgroup...
[02:14] <loststryk> :(
[02:14] <nalioth> loststryk: hoary or breezy?
[02:14] <vbgunz> bimberi:
[02:14] <loststryk> hoary
[02:14] <reter> nalioth, they took the backports off the net
[02:14] <vbgunz> I've been doing that for a while
[02:14] <nalioth> loststryk: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[02:14] <nalioth> reter: only the illegal ones
[02:14] <Bartimaeus> All, is breezy stable, seeing as it is brand new?
[02:14] <Nikopol> nalioth, unshield works with .cabs  with installshield headers which cabextract can't
[02:14] <vbgunz> trying //server<EMAIL_ADDRESS>a bunch of things
[02:14] <adjacent> how do i get firefox flash plugin for breezy?
[02:14] <hajiki> is colony5 just an updated breezy cd?
[02:14] <jsk> hi from where i can download open office themes
[02:15] <nalioth> hajiki: yes
[02:15] <hajiki> cool thanks
[02:15] <hajiki> anyone on breezy, is nautilus constantly crashing on you?
[02:15] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: it's quite stable, however is is still beta no guarantees
[02:15] <Bartimaeus> IorGie, cool, thanks
[02:15] <IorGie> hajiki: nope, not here
[02:15] <timmow> hajiki: nope not for me
[02:15] <wagner> BRAZILIAN!
[02:15] <loststryk> ty nalioth
[02:15] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Was it you that was asking about encrypted filesystems yesterday?
[02:15] <jsk> can anyone help me out
[02:15] <hajiki> IorGie, did you get all the updates that came in today?
[02:15] <loststryk> :)
[02:16] <vbgunz> no but currently the network configuration utility is frigging nuts... it keeps wiping out my wireless settings and defaulting to a lan connection...
[02:16] <vbgunz> rob_p: yeah
[02:16] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: i use dualboot hoary/breezy on my PC just in case.
[02:16] <timmow> vbgunz: its always been nuts :)
[02:16] <vbgunz> rob_p: how you doing
[02:16] <Bartimaeus> IorGie, ill try that
[02:16] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Well, apparently ubuntu has almost everything you need to setup an encrypted block device!
[02:16] <IorGie> hajiki: jup, lot of xserver pakages again
[02:16] <vbgunz> timmow: it could be my fault but I suare it's nuts ;)
[02:16] <Bartimaeus> IorGie, can you have both OS's use the same files?
[02:17] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I'm good.  You?
[02:17] <vbgunz> rob_p: wow, dude you are the man
[02:17] <hajiki> damn wonder whats going on w/ mine then
[02:17] <vbgunz> rob_p: feeling better :)
[02:17] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: i have four partitions: breezy, hoary, /home and swap works like a charm
[02:17] <Bartimaeus> IorGie, ill do that then, thanks a lot!!
[02:17] <vbgunz> rob_p: if I could on the fly encrypt/decrypt all information in my home directory I am good
[02:18] <linlin> How can I make a perticular directory readable by any user at any time, even after new files are added?
[02:18] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I just added a second hard disk and made it a crypto disk.  Now, everything that gets written to it is encrypted.  Anything that gets read from it HAS to be decrypted (which happens on the fly)!
[02:18] <jsk> please help me out
[02:18] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: no problem!
[02:18] <timmow> I always wondered if there were an easy way to list all the packages you have installed for easy upgrades...
[02:18] <vbgunz> rob_p: man dude... in a day ;)
[02:18] <nalioth> jsk: try #openoffice because openoffice themes are kinda out of our purview here
[02:19] <nalioth> jsk: www.deviantart.com
[02:19] <vbgunz> rob_p: I had to go back into Windows and get some work done... it kept me busy
[02:19] <vbgunz> rob_p: you got links?
[02:19] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Here's the guide... it has pretty much everything you need to make it work:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[02:19] <vbgunz> rob_p: I'd take anything you got
[02:21] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I think all you have to do is apt-get a helper script which handles the "heavy work" with dm-crypt.  It's called, "cryptsetup" as I recall.
[02:21] <vbgunz> rob_p: thank you... major thanks! I currently have an 80G HD and Ubuntu on a 7.5G partition... I was just thinking earlier about redoing the HD and devoting it entirely to Ubuntu... *because* vmware seems to make Windows XP run better on Ubuntu... maybe I am going nuts ;)
[02:21] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Anyway, just follow the guide... it's pretty much a cake job!  Very easy indeed.  :-)
[02:22] <vbgunz> tomorrow I will dedicate my time to doing it and making it happen... I am really very satisfied with Ubuntu and am prepared to learn... Currently my task at hand is trying to get access to a Windows share... it's obviously not as easy as i thought it would be...
[02:23] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Do you have samba installed?
[02:23] <vbgunz> rob_p: yes I do, I did it so to share files back... but currently my first step is accessing Windows from Ubuntu first... its just not happening for me :(
[02:24] <bpuccio> anyone use an ubuntu box as a HTPC and have any recommendations for a remote?
[02:24] <timmow> vbgunz: are you using smbmount?
[02:24] <bob2> "HTPC"?
[02:24] <mnssk> hi
[02:24] <IorGie> Home Theather PC?
[02:24] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[02:24] <vbgunz> rob_p: it seems if I hit connect to server and enter the server name as on Windows //server it doesn't work.. if I enter just the name I can see the folder being shared but am told nothing is accessible (error of some sort)
[02:25] <mentok> hi everyone, i'm wondering if anyone knows how to decrypt *.wma files, i have some from some cds that i can't find
[02:25] <vbgunz> rob_p: smbmount?
[02:25] <bpuccio> HTPC = home theater pc
[02:25] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I see.  Well, I was going to suggest double-checking your /etc/samba/smb.conf file for configuration errors but apparently you've had it working in the past?
[02:25] <mnssk> anyone up for some ipw2200 debugging ?
[02:25] <timmow> mentok: mplayer can do that, but I built it from source...
[02:25] <mnssk> need real help!!
[02:25] <mnssk> mentok, mplayer does that!
[02:25] <mentok> mplayer?
[02:26] <vbgunz> no, I just installed samba about 2o minutes ago... then I tried accessing shares... nothing working :(
[02:26] <mentok> where can i read more?
[02:26] <timmow> vbgunz: or mount -t smbfs
[02:26] <mnssk> yeah..search for linux mplayer in google..go to fist link
[02:26] <nalioth> mentok: you'll need to ask elsewhere on that subject please
[02:26] <mnssk> mplayerhq.com/net ..
[02:26] <mentok> ok
[02:26] <mentok> sweet
[02:26] <mentok> thanks :-D
[02:26] <timmow> vbgunz: although that involves the command line...
[02:26] <nalioth> mentok: let us know if it works
[02:26] <vbgunz> this is just one of those steps which will help me move closer to using Ubuntu on a full time basis except for some work which is only accomplishable for and on Windows
[02:26] <mentok> def
[02:26] <vbgunz> rob_p: im cool with the CLI
[02:27] <nalioth> mnssk: mentok has DRMd wma files
[02:27] <mentok> thanks, i appriciate the help
[02:27] <Necrosan> Okay, what can I disable on a laptop (366mhz/128mb ram) to make it feel more responsive?
[02:27] <Necrosan> It feels slower than windows.
[02:27] <vbgunz> i'll try mount -t smbfs
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> turn it off :/
[02:27] <bob2> Necrosan: use something other than gnome
[02:27] <Alzabar> hi people
[02:27] <mnssk> nalioth, oh..dont know what they mean, but i believe in mplayer :) so much..that it can do anything
[02:27] <esac_> Necrosan: probably because it IS slower than windows :)
[02:27] <Dayylin> Greetings all
[02:27] <esac_> Necrosan: but bob2 is right, try XFCE
[02:27] <mnssk> nalioth, can you help me with ipw2200 of ubuntu ?
[02:27] <Necrosan> Also, I'm using 5.10, and all this usplash hype, I'm not even seeing usplash happen.
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> Necrosan: get more ram
[02:28] <shekhar> hello i am having major problems with evolution crashing all the time, can someone help?
[02:28] <Necrosan> esac_: Heh, XFCE sux.
[02:28] <Necrosan> HrdwrBoB: Not really a possibility.
[02:28] <Necrosan> I have about $0 to invest in this POS.
[02:28] <bob2> Necrosan: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <vbgunz> rob_p: Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: server".
[02:28] <Necrosan> bob2: What'll that do?
[02:28] <Necrosan> BTW, is usplash not working because im not using grub?
[02:28] <Alzabar> I have trouble getting ubuntu to detect my network
[02:28] <mnssk> IPW2200
[02:28] <sudonim> shekhar: I also have problems with Evo - do you use it with an Exchange server?
[02:28] <mnssk> help !!
[02:28] <esac_> Necrosan: then fluxbox, fvwm, blackbox, whatever. if you want more responsiveness, dont use gnome or kde
[02:28] <timmow> vbgunz: okay you need to do apt-get install smbfs
[02:28] <Alzabar> on this pc but it work fine on my other one
[02:28] <bob2> Necrosan: if you don't use grub, you're on your own
[02:28] <vbgunz> rob_p: I entered the command you mentioned and then tried connecting to network... thats always the response I get back
[02:29] <shekhar> sudonim:  no
[02:29] <mentok> anyone know where i should go to ask about DRM *.wma?
[02:29] <bob2> mnssk: please don't be irritating
[02:29] <Necrosan> bob2: hah, ubuntu installer forced me to use it
[02:29] <Necrosan> kind of picked it automatically
[02:29] <vbgunz> timmow: what would that do?
[02:29] <Necrosan> Because I'm running / as XFS.
[02:29] <bob2> Necrosan: ubuntu has always defaulted to grub
[02:29] <timmow> install smbmount
[02:29] <Necrosan> Nah
[02:29] <bob2> ok...
[02:29] <mnssk> bob2, sorry!
[02:29] <sudonim> shekhar: I thought it was just because I was using exchange that it was buggy, but maybe the build is no good
[02:29] <esac_> mnssk: what is your full question about ip2200 ?
[02:29] <Necrosan> It defaults to lilo if you choose a decent FS. ;)
[02:29] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I'd make sure your /etc/samba/smb.conf file is configured properly (correct workgroup name, etc.).  Also, don't overlook the security authentication.
[02:29] <shekhar> sudonim:  evolution has been giving me problems in hoary and breezy
[02:29] <timmow> its a nicer way to access windows shares and seems more predictable in my experience
[02:29] <mnssk> esac_,  my wireless has a problem. basically i have installed the latest drivers from ubuntu wiki
[02:30] <Necrosan> How can i zap lilo and throw grub on it?
[02:30] <esac_> Necrosan: don't worry about usplash, its fugly anyway :)
[02:30] <shekhar> Seveas:  are you there? can you advise on how to fix evolution?
[02:30] <vbgunz> rob_p: I will try apt-get install smbfs as suggested by timmow
[02:30] <esac_> mnssk: did you get those drivers to work ?
[02:30] <Necrosan> esac_: heh, I'm seeing really ugly stuff at boot though. This laptop is going to a friend which is why I want to "beautify" it.
[02:30] <reter> how can i add my printer when its not on the its database?
[02:30] <mnssk> esac_, i got them working
[02:30] <bob2> yeah, I love XFS's ability to replace file contents with NULLs on unclean shitdown
[02:30] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Are you using share level or user level auth?
[02:30] <esac_> is there a meta package for xfce4 ?
[02:30] <crimsun> esac_, xfce4
[02:31] <bob2> vbgunz: do note that samba has nothing at all to do with accesing windows share from linux
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_, i have ieee80211 working..and ipw2200 driver working
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_,  when i do this iwlist eth1 scan .. i get networks..
[02:31] <esac_> crimsun: doh, missed that one in the output, sorry
[02:31] <vbgunz> bob2... I just want both machines to talk with one another...
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_, but when i do a dhclient after doing the iwconfig, there is a problem.. it is not able to get me an ip
[02:31] <n00bster> hello
[02:31] <bob2> vbgunz: that's great, but samba is at most half of the problem
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_, i have the error file.
[02:31] <vbgunz> vbgunz: I usually back up my files to that system and that systems backsup to mines
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_, i can show it to you somehow..
[02:31] <n00bster> i installed ubuntu today i encountered some problems.
[02:32] <IorGie> n00bster: tell us
[02:32] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Are you not trying to access your Linux box from Windows?
[02:32] <esac_> mnssk: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:32] <n00bster> the disk manager wont let me choose my partitions , when i do a brows to them
[02:32] <n00bster> they all seem to be grayed out, and i cannot select them,
[02:32] <n00bster> i changed my GID to admin, but no change, i did not had this problem with the live-cd
[02:32] <vbgunz> yes, I might need to as I do have several PCs in which I share information with... I do not wish to stay stranded with Ubuntu when I know it's possible to share along
[02:33] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Oh, I see now.   Linux to windows share.  My bad!
[02:33] <vbgunz> rob_p:
[02:33] <Pyt3r> good night
[02:33] <vbgunz> rob_p: yeah both ways <->
[02:33] <mnssk> esac_,  surely
[02:33] <reter> anyone know how to add a printer that is not on the database?
[02:33] <vbgunz> I just installed apt-get install smbfs
[02:33] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Then yes, you will want to configure smb.conf correctly.
[02:34] <nalioth> n00bster: you cant work with your disks while they are mounted
[02:34] <nalioth> n00bster: use the livecd to change your disk arrangements
[02:34] <bob2> vbgunz: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //<IP_ADDRESS>/stuff /mnt/kazoo
[02:34] <vbgunz> rob_p:  I will look into that right away, I believe Minnow mentioned something else, let me backtrack and find it if I can...
[02:34] <bob2> vbgunz: where the ip is the ip of the windows machine and stuff is the sharename
[02:34] <n00bster> but they are not..  i do not have access to them (i think)
[02:35] <timmow> bob2: do you have to specify a username/password?
[02:35] <mnssk> esac_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2625
[02:35] <n00bster> i'm talking about my other FAT32 partitions
[02:35] <vbgunz> bob2, yeah I was trying something like that before...
[02:35] <vbgunz> one sec
[02:35] <klepas> !info wordpress
[02:35] <mnssk> esac_, i have put the wired (eth0) dhclient, and wireless(eth1) dhclient
[02:35] <ubotu> wordpress: (a semantic personal publishing platform or weblog manager), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 1392 kB
[02:35] <reter> is there another #ubuntu channel?
[02:35] <nalioth> reter: several
[02:36] <reter> tell me where
[02:36] <n00bster> change arrangements? what's that
[02:36] <nalioth> reter: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:36] <vbgunz> bob_2: I am checking that file now
[02:36] <esac_> mnssk: did you try just "ifdown eth1" and "ifup eth1" ?
[02:37] <mnssk> esac_, i tried that..
[02:37] <bob2> vbgunz: file?
[02:37] <mnssk> esac_, i will try again
[02:37] <bob2> reter: why?
[02:37] <nalioth> n00bster: working with your hard drives requires they be unmounted
[02:37] <bob2> timmow: not if you share things anonymously
[02:37] <mnssk> esac_, ifup eth1 is giving exactly the same messages
[02:37] <esac_> mnssk: you might try editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and taking a look at the lease {} section. it is used to try to force a specific lease if you are having trouble getting one
[02:38] <reter> bob: because i have been asking the same question and no one has an answer
[02:38] <mnssk> esac_, sure. i will try that and let you know.
[02:38] <vbgunz> bob2: I am sorry... I got confused with you and rob_p because I was just getting so much attention (I love ya too) :)... someone mentioned editing the smb.conf  file... I believe rob_p did... I am trying to backttrack as the path/to was written...
[02:38] <reter> bob: if i need support i would like someone to help me
[02:38] <n00bster> wait, perhaps i did not explained my self, I'm on ubuntu now, and i want access to win partitions.
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> When trying to get emu10ki-v0.20a(Soundblaster) i get this "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build directory does not exist. Please edit the file 'config'
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> in this directory and set KERNEL_SOURCE to the correct location of your
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> kernel source.
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> " and this also "make[1] : *** [get_version]  Error 1
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/yawgmoth7/Desktop/Yawgmoth7/emu10k1-v0.20a/scripts'
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> make: *** [opts]  Error 2
[02:38] <mnssk> esac_,  should I add .. the lease section of that ?
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> "
[02:38] <bob2> yawgmoth7: do not paste in here
[02:38] <Bicchi> How can i add an option to grub to boot into the command line, where it asks me for the username and password?
[02:39] <vbgunz> rob_p: thanks bro, I am going to look for that file now... /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:39] <bob2> vbgunz: you do not need to  edit any samba options to mount a windows share
[02:39] <timmow> n00bster: what win? xp?
[02:39] <esac_> Bicchi: add the word "single" to the end of the kernel line
[02:39] <n00bster> yes
[02:39] <bob2> yawgmoth7: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:39] <vbgunz> bob2, oh, ok so I just need to enter in that command you mentioned earlier?
[02:39] <ZBlach|Away> hi
[02:39] <vbgunz> bob2: the command with the IPs?
[02:39] <vbgunz> ok, then I am going for it now
[02:39] <timmow> ok do you know what partition it is? /dev/hdaX?
[02:39] <vbgunz> need to bt
[02:39] <bob2> Bicchi: "sudo rm /etc/rc3.d/S*gdm" in your system, then add 3 to the end of the kernel boot command line
[02:40] <ZBlach|Away> I can see my network with iwlist, I've setup everything correctly with iwconfig, now why can't I connect to my network?
[02:40] <bob2> esac_: that drops you into a rot shell without asking for a password
[02:40] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: mac locking? wep? wpa?
[02:40] <vbgunz> bob2, one thing what is the equivalent to ipconfig /all on Ubuntu?
[02:40] <ZBlach|Away> wep
[02:41] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, wep keys match, ndiswrappered correctly
[02:41] <n00bster> would a picture help?
[02:41] <timmow> n00bster: do you know which partition is the windows one?
[02:41] <n00bster> yes i do
[02:41] <bob2> vbgunz: what does that do?
[02:42] <n00bster> hda1 &hda5
[02:42] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: does disabling wep help?
[02:42] <mnssk> esac_,  i will try editing that file. but what exactly is this problem ?
[02:42] <pluffsy> hello
[02:42] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, nope. doesn't seem to do anything
[02:42] <timmow> n00bster: okay you need to open a terminal
[02:42] <n00bster> with you..
[02:42] <yawgmoth7> bob2: It says it cant find the package
[02:42] <vbgunz> ipconfig /all will list all my IP's, public private, submask etc
[02:42] <mnssk> esac_, and any help on what options to be given ? like man/ web or something?
[02:42] <timmow> n00bster: and do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[02:42] <timmow> say
[02:43] <timmow>  where /media/windows is a directory you want to mount under
[02:43] <rob_p> vbgunz:  ifconfig will show you that
[02:43] <pluffsy> I make my living as a php developer and web designer. I'm a mac user and has before used bbedit but I'm now moving away from commercial software. I've tried gedit and kate and they are okey I guess but not very fancy. What do you think I should learn? Should I try something like emacs and vi? They seem to have a very steep learning curve.
[02:43] <n00bster> woops, i can't find terminal on the menu
[02:43] <vbgunz> rob_p: ifconfig is the ipconfig equiv?
[02:43] <bob2> vbgunz: ip a; ip r
[02:43] <rob_p> vbgunz:  pretty much, yeah.
[02:43] <timmow> its under apps -> Accessories in Breezy
[02:43] <misfit_toy> pluffsy, vi has no curve at all, you'll be at it in a day
[02:43] <n00bster> It's on system tools?
[02:44] <vbgunz> ya, you are the man ;)
[02:44] <vbgunz> thanks ya!
[02:44] <vbgunz> looking into it
[02:44] <timmow> system tools in hoary
[02:44] <bob2> pluffsy: they are steep, but it's what most unix programmers end up using
[02:44] <bob2> yawgmoth7: oh well
[02:44] <yawgmoth7> :\
[02:44] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[02:44] <pluffsy> misfit_toy: which one do you think I should start with? I know it's like a mac/windows war between them. but like bascically what's the pros and cons of vi and emacs? are one easier to use and one has more features?
[02:44] <bob2> yawgmoth7: I take it you're using breezy, but you haven't updated lately?
[02:45] <timmow> emacs and vi are extremely powerful, and once you have learnt them you will love it
[02:45] <pluffsy> bob2: right... hmm.
[02:45] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, tried it with no wep. no dice
[02:45] <marz> Is this the ubuntu help channel?
[02:45] <bob2> marz: indeed
[02:45] <ZBlach|Away> marz, this is the unofficial help channel
[02:45] <timmow> its best to do both the tutorials and see which one you prefer.  For me it was emacs....
[02:45] <pluffsy> are there some very graphical flashy happy tutorial I should check out on emacs/vi?
[02:45] <yawgmoth7> Yeah, im using breezy, and i just ran sudo apt-get update, then i downloaded the updates that came up after that, and there are no new updates uner upgrade or dist-upgrade
[02:45] <misfit_toy> pluffsy, emacs is the grandaddy of all editors, it's filled with stuff, vi is lighter and newer, so it depends on what you want...do you need tons of links to external stuff or just want a fast as hell editor?
[02:45] <vbgunz> haha!
[02:45] <yawgmoth7> So my system is really up-to-date
[02:45] <bob2> pluffsy: no
[02:45] <pluffsy> like not he big ass emacs/vi references I guess there are somewhere.
[02:45] <n00bster> ?
[02:45] <timmow> pluffsy: vimtutor in a terminal will give you a vim tutorial
[02:45] <vbgunz> rob_p: thank you!
[02:46] <marz> oh ok, thanks. Never used IRC before. I seem to be having a problem with my graphics card and ubuntu
[02:46] <vbgunz> bob2: thank you!
[02:46] <bob2> yawgmoth7: time to reboot into the new kernel
[02:46] <FhaeTon> this is the busiest form on the planet
[02:46] <dawynn> Anyone know anything about getting sound working?
[02:46] <rob_p> vbgunz:  You're welcome... what did I do?
[02:46] <timmow> pluffsy: and emacs will tell you how to start a tutorial if you start it
[02:46] <ZBlach|Away> dawynn: alsamixer
[02:46] <vbgunz> I can now see windows shares on the network from Ubuntu...
[02:46] <n00bster> can't find terminal on the system tools menu, is there another way?
[02:46] <bob2> pluffsy: c-h t in emacs starts the tutorial
[02:46] <yawgmoth7> Ok, thanks bob2, you helped me last time also :) so yeah brb
[02:46] <bob2> n00bster: accessories
[02:46] <FhaeTon> converstaion runs 24hrs in here
[02:46] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Cool!
[02:46] <n00bster> oh, got it :)
[02:46] <vbgunz> I think I will see about it a little more and then tomorrow try to learn how to work back with it... am dead beat... worked so hard but promised to learn somethings about Ubuntu today
[02:46] <marz> Is there a way to reconfigure my graphics card in ubuntu, because it's not recognizing my GeForce Ti4200.
[02:47] <FhaeTon> hey bob2
[02:47] <dawynn> Sound works a bit, but not completely.  Works great in certain games (Neverwinter Nights, Deng [doom] ) -- but KsCD -- no sound at all.
[02:47] <pluffsy> bob2: err I'm not even sure what that means. I should press ctrl then h and t while ctrl still down?
[02:47] <vbgunz> this stuff is important to helping me migrate over... i am always using the network shares
[02:47] <vbgunz> thanks!
[02:47] <timmow> pluffsy: ctrl-h then let go.  Then t
[02:47] <ZBlach|Away> why can't I connect to my new router?
[02:47] <dawynn> Audacity doesn't work either.
[02:47] <pluffsy> timmow: alright. thanks.
[02:47] <ZBlach|Away> dawynn: use alsamixer
[02:47] <n00bster> i get error "mount point do not exist".
[02:47] <ZBlach|Away> dawynn: use alsamixer
[02:47] <vbgunz> rob_p: tomorrow I will focus on that link you gave me... if it works I'll send you a home made apple pie from entenmans
[02:48] <crimsun> dawynn, you need to configure kscd to use digital audio extraction instead of analog.
[02:48] <vbgunz> :P
[02:48] <timmow> pluffsy: it explains it better...
[02:48] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Alright dude... take care and good luck!
[02:48] <Ninjew> woot, freenx works and is amazing
[02:48] <bob2> pluffsy: ctrl-h, then t
[02:48] <vbgunz> i'll be around, just want to see what I can do now
[02:48] <jroes> sudo ifup wlan0 says "Ignoring unknown device wlan0=wlan0" -- anyone know why it would do this when iwconfig wlan0 shows it?
[02:48] <ZBlach|Away> any tips on connecting to my wireless router?
[02:48] <x86jimmy> hey, question about ubuntu; if you install in "server" mode, what are you getting/what arn't you getting?
[02:48] <timmow> jroes: kind of
[02:48] <bob2> jroes: that means you didn't setup /etc/network/interfaces
[02:49] <linner|STARBUCKS> ok ya'll I'm going to pack up and get back home
[02:49] <linner|STARBUCKS> I'll see ya'll afterwhile
[02:49] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: sounds like ndiswraper being crap
[02:49] <IorGie> x86jimmy: no gnome to start
[02:49] <pluffsy> well good night and bye. I'll look at emacs.
[02:49] <timmow> good luck
[02:49] <x86jimmy> IorGie: are you getting X11 at all?
[02:49] <pluffsy> err and vi
[02:49] <jroes> ZBlach|Away: I'm following ttp://www.siliconvalleyccie.com/linux-hn/wmp11-linux.htm if it helps
[02:49] <IorGie> nope..
[02:49] <x86jimmy> god
[02:49] <x86jimmy> good*
[02:49] <x86jimmy> k thanks
[02:50] <jroes> of course, kwifimanager shows me connected to it, and iwconfig wlan0 shows me connected
[02:50] <jroes> but I can't resolve IP addresses, and ifconfig won't display it without the -a switch, which tells me it's down
[02:50] <daaku> anyone know of anything like fink (ie apt-get pleasure!) for freebsd? its so painful to compile mozilla by hand
[02:50] <timmow> jroes: its not the right way apparantly, but i always found ifconfig wlan0 up && sudo dhclient wlan0 does the trick
[02:50] <crimsun> wouldn't it be in bsd's ports?
[02:50] <jroes> daaku: this is #ubuntu, but, ports  cd /usr/ports
[02:51] <n00bster> (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows) i use FAT32
[02:51] <dawynn> crimsun, thank you -- KsCD finally works!
[02:51] <brownie17> i need help. i pluddeg in aportable floppy disk drive through my serials port and it isn't showing up. how do i mount it and all that?
[02:51] <daaku> crimsun: dont have ports, need something that sort of stays out of the core system (again, painful)
[02:52] <n00bster> and i use FAT32 in the syntax, but same error...
[02:52] <dawynn> crimsun, What was up with that?  How come the digital works, but not the other on KsCD?
[02:52] <timmow> n00bster: replace ntfs with vfat (I think)
[02:52] <jroes> timmow: hrmph, that almost worked except dhclient isn't in knoppix :X
[02:52] <ZBlach|Away> ok, followed that link, checked my compatibilities, and its still not working
[02:52] <jroes> timmow: the iface did come up though!
[02:52] <brownie17> MadpilotPPC, can  you help me? ^^^
[02:52] <n00bster> i'll tray.
[02:53] <Trashcan> hi :)
[02:53] <x86jimmy> another question about server mode, are you installing a barebone system or are you actually getting "server" tools (apache, mysql, etc.)
[02:53] <Trashcan> anyone mind if i ask a driver question? you probably get these a lot ;)
[02:54] <Trashcan> has to do with compiling the ATI drivers from a tut
[02:54] <ZBlach|Away> it says that its connected, but I can't access the internet or the router
[02:54] <HrdwrBoB> don't ask to ask
[02:54] <HrdwrBoB> ask
[02:54] <timmow> jroes: is there a dhcpd command?
[02:54] <Trashcan> right on
[02:54] <crimsun> dawynn, volume it probably muted and/or there's no cable connecting the drive to the sound chipset
[02:54] <crimsun> volume is^
[02:54] <Trashcan> (excuse the short paste)
[02:54] <Trashcan> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): No such device
[02:54] <quack> i got kucky,everthing works just fine
[02:54] <Trashcan> happens when compiling ATI drivers, following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348911
[02:55] <test> newbie here.  I need to find out how to get dev packages.  I tried to install a video driver and am missing gcc package
[02:55] <n00bster> no go! :(
[02:55] <ZBlach|Away> i just want to get my wireless working :'(
[02:55] <Trashcan> :p
[02:55] <Trashcan> (just a guess, im no guru) open terminal: sudo apt-get install gcc
[02:55] <Trashcan> ?
[02:55] <butcherbird> test: sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[02:56] <Trashcan> ahh gg
[02:56] <jroes> timmow: nope :(
[02:56] <n00bster> iisn't it done to be ubuntu instillation?
[02:56] <jroes> timmow: nor dhcpcd
[02:56] <ZBlach|Away> this is killing me. every other computer set up right a way, but this one refuses to work correctly
[02:56] <bob2> x86jimmy: you install whatever daemons you want, yourself
[02:57] <ZBlach|Away> it says its connected, it sees the network, but it won't let me do anything else
[02:57] <timmow> jroes: there is some weird syntax in ifconfig for configuring the Ip address etc manually
[02:57] <x86jimmy> bob2: so, you get to manually select packages?
[02:57] <jroes> timmow: yeah I was reading the man pages, it was tough to figure out though :)
[02:57] <timmow> jroes: I don't know it off hand but the man page might help....
[02:57] <Trashcan> ifconfig eth1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx?
[02:58] <Trashcan> followed by NETMASK xxx...
[02:58] <Trashcan> or something
[02:58] <jroes> haha
[02:58] <jroes> trashcan is right :)
[02:58] <Trashcan> woot
[02:58] <Trashcan> and ive been using debian/linux for.... 6 hours
[02:58] <jroes> hahaha
[02:58] <n00bster> ??
[02:58] <jroes> are you kidding?
[02:58] <jroes> nice job :)
[02:58] <test> thanks all.  I will try both suggestions out and if I dont get anywhere I will be back:-)
[02:59] <timmow> well I am impressed by that!
[02:59] <Ninjew> its ifconfig <interface> inet <ip address> netmask <netmask> broadcast <broadcast>
[02:59] <yawgmoth7> Had some trouble booting up, but i managed to fix it,  ill try installing the sound drivers now
[02:59] <Ninjew> without the braces, of course
[03:00] <Alzabar> how come alsa dont load with hoary but does in breezy
[03:00] <timmow> I think it is time for bed.  Good night
[03:00] <ZBlach|Away> Alzabar, coz they fixed it in breezy
[03:00] <crimsun> Alzabar, it doesn't?
[03:00] <Trashcan> i had some issues getting g++ set up properly on breezy, so i switched to hoary :'(
[03:01] <Alzabar> yeah I tired both on another machine
[03:01] <esac_> i setup system->preferences->network proxy. however when i try to use add applications, it isn't using the proxy to download files. any ideas ?
[03:01] <n00bster> __ok, i can see that you need sleeping, ill tray tomorrow. )__
[03:01] <crimsun> Alzabar, it works fine on my Hoary boxes.
[03:01] <Alzabar> alsa not even installed in hoary
[03:01] <n00bster> goodbye
[03:01] <crimsun> Alzabar, you're kidding me?
[03:01] <Alzabar> but it was on breezy
[03:01] <Trashcan> so anyone here have any experience with the ATI drivers? :D
[03:01] <Alzabar> Im not
[03:01] <esac_> Trashcan: i am using them just fine, thank you
[03:01] <Trashcan> (on hoary)
[03:01] <jroes> now to figure out how to set a gateway
[03:01] <ZBlach|Away> darnit!< i can see the network. I can access the network on other computers. Why can't I access it through breezy!
[03:01] <jroes> I bet it's ifconfig gateway :)
[03:01] <Trashcan> what card do you have esac?
[03:02] <Alzabar> ati worked great for me on hoary byut not breezy
[03:02] <esac_> Trashcan: ati mobility radeon 9700
[03:02] <Trashcan> ah
[03:02] <Trashcan> <--- very old laptop... ati rage mobility
[03:02] <ZBlach|Away> esac_, Trashcan, same card. please elaborate
[03:02] <Alzabar> hoary no sound but video breezy no video good sound
[03:02] <dawynn> crimsun, <blush> yep -- you're right about not having that CD drive hooked up to the sound card.  That hint helped me at least fix up one of the CD drives correctly.  Thanks much!
[03:03] <Alzabar> I can never get both to work
[03:03] <crimsun> Alzabar, it's part of ubuntu-minimal
[03:03] <Trashcan> *heh heh*
[03:03] <dawynn> exit
[03:03] <marz> does anyone know how to configure a graphics card driver?
[03:03] <ZBlach|Away> so.... no one here has ever had problems with wireless networking?
[03:03] <Alzabar> anyway I am getting hoary since breezy wont see my network here
[03:03] <Trashcan> i tried installing the driver package from synaptic, but fglrxinfo gave the normal erranous message (mesa3d)
[03:04] <yawgmoth7> bob2: I figured out how i can fix my problem, i just need to find /2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build, because that is the thing that it cant find
[03:04] <vir> what is breezy?
[03:04] <ZBlach|Away> !breezy
[03:04] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:04] <funkyHat> vir, the next version of ubuntu
[03:04] <esac_> Trashcan: did you try installing linux-restricted-modules ?
[03:04] <Trashcan> so i followed another tutorial that went through completely removing the drivers and compiling the source from ati
[03:04] <esac_> vir: breezy is the latest version of ubuntu (and it is still in development)
[03:04] <Trashcan> but then it errored
[03:04] <Trashcan> hmm, elaborate esac?
[03:04] <esac_> Trashcan: what error did you get
[03:05] <Trashcan> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): No such device
[03:05] <bob2> yawgmoth7: ?
[03:05] <esac_> Trashcan: are you running a custom kernel ?
[03:05] <ZBlach|Away> Has no one had problems with their wireless cards??
[03:05] <bob2> yawgmoth7: you need to "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[03:05] <Trashcan> negatron
[03:05] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: dude, of course people have
[03:05] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: your problem is probably related to ndiswrapper, tho, which no one here can fix
[03:05] <Trashcan> aside from installed packages, this is a clean ubuntu install
[03:05] <esac_> Trashcan: does /dev/agpgart exist ?
[03:06] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, seems like no one has. every solution available is the same, and they're not working for me
[03:06] <lsuactiafner> will breezy be out within 2 weeks?
[03:06] <Alzabar> sometime in oct
[03:06] <testy> I'm back.  No luck on gcc install.  any other ideas?
[03:06] <Trashcan> yeah
[03:06] <bob2> Trashcan: that's the driver saying "I don't think I know how to work any of this hardware"
[03:06] <Trashcan> ahh
[03:06] <bob2> testy: install build-essential
[03:06] <lsuactiafner> !tell lsuactiafner about breezy
[03:06] <Trashcan> ok
[03:06] <bob2> marz: be more specific
[03:06] <Trashcan> thanks bob2
[03:06] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, I was running hoary for almost a month with no ndiswrapper problem
[03:06] <Trashcan> that clears things up pretty well..
[03:06] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: does booting the hoary kernel "fix" it?
[03:06] <yawgmoth7> If ound it bob2, thanks once again >:)
[03:06] <vir> i have no cd of breezy..where i can get the update?
[03:07] <Trashcan> lol
[03:07] <ZBlach|Away> not sure. after my compy died with the breezy upgrade, i've just been using the Breezy 9/9 install
[03:07] <bob2> vir: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradENotes
[03:07] <Trashcan> www.ubuntu.com ?
[03:07] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: you filed bugs about that, right?
[03:07] <marz> bob2: My current graphics card is not recognized properly (it claims it's PCI, and it doesn't know its capabilities, according to Device Manager). How can I change/update drivers?
[03:07] <yawgmoth7> Im using Breezy
[03:07] <bob2> marz: ignore device manager
[03:07] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, can't file bugs -- nothing was working
[03:07] <bob2> marz: what card is it?
[03:07] <butcherbird> vir: if everything is working for you right now I would wait about a month to upgrade
[03:07] <marz> bob2: GeForceTi 4200
[03:08] <vir> ah!! ok
[03:08] <Alzabar> I got no AGP slot
[03:08] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: so use the livecd or whatever
[03:08] <ZBlach|Away> dun have.
[03:08] <bob2> marz: so what is the problem?
[03:08] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: your system apparently works now, report them
[03:08] <ZBlach|Away> this is a diffrerent comp
[03:08] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: if you don't report it, it won't be fixed and you won't be able to use breezy at all
[03:08] <marz> bob2: The graphics card is not recognized, so I am unable to go past 800x600 resolution without getting a messed up screen. In addition, the screen is off-centre. Anyway to fix this?
[03:09] <Alzabar> get a new video card
[03:09] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, how can I report the error. i only have vague details
[03:09] <bob2> marz: if X runs at all, it's plenty recognised
[03:09] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: vague bug reports are unlikely to be of any use, tho
[03:09] <bob2> marz: did you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?
[03:10] <marz> bob2: I'll check it out
[03:10] <cafuego_> marz: Tip: AGP = PCI
[03:10] <HrdwrBoB> =~
[03:10] <HrdwrBoB> not =
[03:10] <vir> how to remove konqueror
[03:10] <Trashcan> lol
[03:10] <Trashcan> why hasn't anyone said rtfm yet.... it's just dying to be said
[03:11] <cafuego_> AGP |= PCI
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> Trashcan: because that's not how we work here
[03:11] <Trashcan> cool
[03:11] <cafuego_> Trashcan: rtfm
[03:11] <Trashcan> well nice to see its a supportive community
[03:11] <Trashcan> :)
[03:11] <funkyHat> XD
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> funkyHat: why are you saying XD
[03:11] <cafuego_> You order, we deliver.
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> exx dee, makes no sense
[03:11] <vir> it is possible to update ubuntu in edubuntu?
[03:11] <cafuego_> HrdwrBoB: it's probably some smiley in his client
[03:11] <crimsun> it's like a laughing face, I think.
[03:11] <Trashcan> look at it sideways
[03:12] <funkyHat> XD = :D with screwed up eyes
[03:12] <Trashcan> yeah
[03:12] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego_: I know it's supposed to be a face
[03:12] <funkyHat> :P
[03:12] <ZBlach|Away> ooh! i remember now! different drivers are required. it was an ndiswrapper problem. sorry for wasting your time
[03:12] <HrdwrBoB> I just happen to think it makes you look like a tard
[03:12] <vir> it is possible to update ubuntu in edubuntu?
[03:12] <HrdwrBoB> .. anyway moving on
[03:12] <crimsun> vir, sure
[03:12] <funkyHat> no, it's not a smiley in my client :P. i just think it looks cool :P
[03:12] <vir> how?
[03:12] <Trashcan> nice to see where you stand on the arrogance scale, HrdwrBoB
[03:12] <cafuego_> HrdwrBoB: yes, it's also know as the "windowlicker"
[03:12] <vir> crimsun:how?
[03:12] <crimsun> vir, the same way you update ubuntu
[03:12] <vir> i dnt have the cd..
[03:13] <vir> what is the command for update?
[03:13] <crimsun> vir, but you have a live Internet connection, correct?
[03:13] <funkyHat> i think saying the word tard makes you look like a tard
[03:13] <vir> yes
[03:13] <esac_> any idea why my windows get a lot of ripping and tearing and leaving behind copies of itself while i move the window around ?
[03:13] <cafuego_> bob2: Where do I sign? :-)
[03:13] <bob2> hahaha
[03:13] <crimsun> vir, then just use Synaptic/aptitude/apt-get
[03:13] <vir> i have..dats why m on x-chat
[03:13] <Trashcan> esac: drivers probably
[03:13] <cafuego_> esac_: Paper screen?
[03:13] <Trashcan> my windows tear, but don't leave nasties behind
[03:13] <Trashcan> when i resize
[03:14] <vir> and then?
[03:14] <cafuego_> !test
[03:14] <Narg> so installing the breezy PR that I downloaded a few months ago
[03:14] <Narg> so I'm*
[03:14] <cafuego_> friggin' great
[03:14] <Narg> and it keeps erroring at 6%
[03:14] <Narg> so I go wtf, and then abort and eject cd
[03:15] <vir> crimsun: how about using terminal? like what ive used in updating kubuntu
[03:15] <Narg> and lo and behold, the cold is covered with mold :/
[03:15] <Narg> cd*
[03:15] <Trashcan> haha..
[03:15] <Narg> wow, I'm tired :)
[03:15] <Trashcan> a moldy cd, that's a new one :\
[03:15] <crimsun> vir, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[03:15] <Narg> I never saw that one coming.
[03:15] <Narg> yea...
[03:15] <Trashcan> i'm diggin apt-get..
[03:15] <yawgmoth7> stdio.h is a C module right?
[03:15] <Narg> BOFH excuse 10056: Moldy CD.
[03:16] <Trashcan> first distro i used was rh
[03:16] <cafuego_> C header file, from libc6-dev
[03:16] <Trashcan> it was kinda..... bah
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> mouldy
[03:16] <bob2> yawgmoth7: no, it's a header file from libc6-dev
[03:16] <yawgmoth7> Oh, ok
[03:16] <Trashcan> bob2 is my hero..
[03:16] <vir> crimsun: its all been done..what i will do next?
[03:16] <crimsun> it's updated then.
[03:16] <Trashcan> first time i installed breezy i went on with the #include <iostream>
[03:16] <Trashcan> and it gave some error
[03:16] <Trashcan> so i was freaking out
[03:17] <Trashcan> tried #include <stdio.h>
[03:17] <Trashcan> and it errored again
[03:17] <vir> where i can see edubuntu?
[03:17] <Trashcan> ...lo and behold, the error had to do with the nonexistant g++
[03:17] <vir> crimsun: its all been done..what i will do next?
[03:17] <vir> where i can see edubuntu?
[03:17] <crimsun> vir, um what do you want to see?
[03:17] <vir> the edubuntu
[03:18] <marz> Under my monitor Section-BeginSection, I have a HorizSync of 28-51 and a VertRefresh of 43-60, is this the problem or is it normal?
[03:19] <crimsun> vir, I think you misunderstand what Edubuntu is.
[03:19] <vir> what is edubuntu?
[03:19] <crimsun> vir, http://www.edubuntu.org/
[03:20] <crimsun> vir, if you're expecting drastic interface changes, you're probably looking in the wrong place
[03:20] <vir> can i say sorry?
[03:20] <fr33mind> Question: When I go in console, I missed 3 or 4 lines at the bottom.
[03:20] <crimsun> none necessary
[03:21] <Trashcan> scroll down? :s
[03:21] <fr33mind> I can't
[03:22] <fr33mind> I have to press enter to scroll up...
[03:22] <Trashcan> oh boy
[03:22] <Trashcan> no scroll wheel?
[03:22] <fr33mind> in CONSOLE
[03:22] <Trashcan> ah
[03:22] <Trashcan> thought you said terminal :)
[03:22] <Trashcan> sorry
[03:22] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Shift pageup and pagedown
[03:23] <fr33mind> CTRL-ALT-F1
[03:23] <yawgmoth7> "make: gcc-3.4: Command not found
[03:23] <yawgmoth7> " Do you think that that means that "make" is trying to use the command "gcc-3.5"?(Since its gcc)
[03:23] <crimsun> or use screen, which has history.
[03:23] <fr33mind> no you don't understand... wait..
[03:23] <bob2> yawgmoth7: that means it's trying to run gcc-3.4
[03:23] <bob2> yawgmoth7: install the gcc-3.4 package
[03:23] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[03:24] <fr33mind> With CTRL-ALT-F1, I am in console.  Now... I can see line 1 to 20 for example but, line 21 to 24 no.   (and it's not a monitor adjustment!)
[03:24] <Trashcan> so you cant see what you are typing?
[03:24] <Ninjew> oh it cuts off the bottom?
[03:24] <yawgmoth7> i love python so much, ive been using it for ayear or so now
[03:24] <fr33mind> That's it.
[03:24] <yawgmoth7> a year*
[03:25] <WinZ> hi there! anybody knows if apache2 can run under xinetd?
[03:25] <Trashcan> i wrote a pisspoor irc client in python a while back... under win32
[03:25] <Trashcan> it was interesting
[03:25] <Trashcan> nifty little language
[03:25] <bob2> WinZ: that would be kinda silly, and no, afaik
[03:25] <yawgmoth7> Awesome, ive written a python IRC bot before................
[03:26] <cafuego_> Ubotu is behind a failed switch and will be back shortly.
[03:26] <DJCobol> hello?
[03:27] <funkyHat> hi DJCobol
[03:27] <DJCobol> is there anyone out there that wouldn't mind helping me out with iptables?
[03:27] <Trashcan> I like this chan.. nice people :)
[03:27] <WinZ> bob2, sorry, but what is "kinda silly"? :)
[03:27] <bob2> DJCobol: best to just ask your question
[03:27] <bob2> WinZ: trying to run apache out of xinetd
[03:27] <bob2> WinZ: why do you want to try?
[03:27] <test> newbie back again.  I now need help on kernel install
[03:28] <bob2> test: you already have a kernel istalled
[03:28] <Trashcan> lol
[03:28] <DJCobol> trying to configure iptables to allow passive and active FTP traffic. so far I can log in, but as soon as I issue a command and it goes to passive, the connection drops
[03:28] <test> it's asking for missing headers when i try to install the video driver
[03:28] <bob2> DJCobol: sure you want a firewall at all?
[03:28] <fr33mind> If I boot in recovry mode, the console screen is ok.
[03:28] <atty> hi. i need help. i did try to install azureus but fail. and inform E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[03:28] <DJCobol> yes
[03:28] <bob2> test: what driver are you trying to install?
[03:28] <test> so what nvidia
[03:29] <mgcross> hi all...got a big problem...
[03:29] <bob2> atty: that's of no use to use, we need the whole error in #flood or pastebin
[03:29] <WinZ> bob2, sorry for my english please :) I'm from Ukraine. I think that this kind of running apache is better because of using a few memory
[03:29] <atty> i did update & upgrade but still face same problem
[03:29] <bob2> test: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:29] <bob2> WinZ: that's unlikely to be the case
[03:29] <Alzabar> brb people
[03:29] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Do you have some type of framebuffer setup?
[03:29] <conte> hello !! ^^
[03:29] <mgcross> installed new nvidia driver....now open office segfaults...really makes the box usless
[03:29] <fr33mind> Ninjew: maybe... don't know
[03:30] <mgcross> any ideas how I can track down the problem?
[03:30] <bob2> mgcross: get rid of it and use the ubuntu version
[03:30] <mgcross> hmmm....
[03:30] <cafuego_> WinZ: No, run apache stand-alone with 1 server process and maybe 1 waiting server process.
[03:30] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Does ubuntu give you the splash screen when you turn on?
[03:30] <test> thanks bob2
[03:30] <mgcross> bob2: is that going to fix the problem?
[03:30] <cafuego_> WinZ: And unlaod any apache modules you don't need. (See /etc/apache/modules.conf)
[03:30] <yawgmoth7> I installed the gcc-3.4 package, but it still reads the gcc-4.0 package, i was just going to remove the 4.0 package then reinstall it, but it said that it would have to unintsall a crap-load of other programs with it(I was using Synaptic, might be differnet with apt-get), and when i type "gcc --version" it says gcc 4.0.2, so i know that it is still using the 4.0.2 package
[03:30] <fr33mind> Ninjew: yes and it's cool ;)
[03:30] <bob2> mgcross: who knows, but it's a start to debug it
[03:30] <WinZ> cafuego_, bob2, thanks a lot! i have a small home server
[03:31] <mgcross> bob2: I'm just making a guess that that was what caused this mess..
[03:31] <bob2> yawgmoth7: wtf
[03:31] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Can you tell if that is cut off as well? Or does it look normal
[03:31] <WinZ> bob2, mm.. how about vsftpd under xinetd? do you think it's too unlikely?
[03:31] <mgcross> bob2: true, true
[03:31] <fr33mind> Ninjew: yes it is.
[03:31] <bob2> yawgmoth7: gcc 4.0 is the default on ubuntu. do not change that.
[03:31] <bob2> yawgmoth7: if something wants gcc 3.4, it should be running gcc-3.4
[03:31] <fr33mind> Ninjew: some text at the bottom is cut off.
[03:31] <bob2> yawgmoth7: what on earth are yo ucompiling?
[03:31] <cafuego_> bob2: Not for the kernel.
[03:31] <mgcross> bob2: how the heck do I rid myself of it?
[03:31] <bob2> mgcross: yay for installing things from outside ubuntu
[03:31] <bob2> mgcross: perhaps #nvidia knows
[03:32] <mgcross> bob2: yah, I know, I know....the Ubuntu driver is dead old tho...lol
[03:32] <cafuego_> mgcross; strace the installer, see what files it writes, remove them by hand.
[03:32] <bob2> mgcross: not really
[03:32] <yawgmoth7> Im just tryin to compile the sound card drivers......ive done it before no problem
[03:32] <foampiec1> hello
[03:32] <Ninjew> fr33mind: hmm
[03:32] <bob2> yawgmoth7: you need to tell it to use gcc-3.4
[03:32] <mgcross> hmm
[03:32] <yawgmoth7> Somewhere in a config file, right?
[03:33] <mgcross> strace? cmd line tool? Not familiar with it...
[03:33] <foampiec1> might you be able to tell me how to remove a package and its dependencies without breaking other dependencies? ie remove unessessary packages
[03:33] <cafuego_> foampiec1: Run 'deborphan' to find out what isn't needed.
[03:33] <foampiec1> cafuego_: ok thanks
[03:33] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Do you know how to edit the kernel boot parameters?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> foampiec1: you'll need to install it
[03:34] <fr33mind> Ninjew: if you explain... maybe ;)
[03:34] <foampiec1> thanks
[03:34] <reter> how can i create a root password?
[03:34] <mgcross> cafuego_: strace?
[03:34] <bob2> yawgmoth7: no, it may involve makefile hacking
[03:34] <yawgmoth7> >:\
[03:34] <Ninjew> fr33mind: OK try this: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:34] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[03:34] <cafuego_> reter: via 'passwd' but it's probably better to just sue 'sudo'.
[03:34] <thoreauputic> reter: sudo passwd root (if you really must)
[03:35] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Is this a x86 or an amd64 install?
[03:35] <thoreauputic> reter: it's quite unnecessary though
[03:35] <fr33mind> x86
[03:35] <Trashcan> so given the way ubuntu set up the password dealy
[03:35] <reter> the printer app ask for it
[03:35] <Trashcan> if someone gets your normal user password
[03:35] <Trashcan> they can login as root
[03:35] <Trashcan> aye?
[03:35] <Trashcan> sudo -s
[03:35] <foampiec1> mplayer doesnt depend on gstreamer stuff?
[03:35] <reter> thoreauputic, would you happen to know how to add a printer when its not on database?
[03:35] <Trashcan> (at least get a root terminal)
[03:36] <fr33mind> Ninjew: I am in the file.
[03:36] <Ninjew> fr33mind: ok find the section at the bottom that says title  Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-something-i386
[03:36] <fr33mind> (I knew this file ;)
[03:36] <remyforbes777> anyone have any luck installing amd 64
[03:36] <Ninjew> fr33mind: the one thats not the recovery mode
[03:36] <thoreauputic> reter: my last attempt to add a non-supported printer was a nightmare, so no, sorry
[03:36] <yawgmoth7> If you mean installing Ubuntu on AMD64.....then yes
[03:36] <Ninjew> fr33mind: and change the word 'splash' in kernel /boot/vmlinuz-blahblah root=blah ro quiet to 'nosplash'
[03:36] <remyforbes777> yeas
[03:36] <remyforbes777> yes
[03:36] <fr33mind> Ninjew: by the way.. can I delete old kernel I don't need anymore ?
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: If you never boot to it, deleting that will remove its entry in your bootloader
[03:37] <yawgmoth7> Yeah, ive installed it, and i have a AMD 64
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: It won't actually delete the kernel image
[03:37] <gm78> Hi all. I currently have Ubuntu installed on my mom's Sony Vaio (P4 2.8 GHz, 512 MB RAM, Intel Graphics Card) and lately, when she tries to log out, Gnome just sits there still running for a long time. So she hits CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and then it goes to a terminal instead of restarting X. Anyone seen this happen before or know a way to fix it?
[03:37] <remyforbes777> Athlon or Turion
[03:37] <fr33mind> Ninjew: Just delete line refer to what I don't want?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> reter: are you sure it isn't supported? Sometimes trying another driver works
[03:37] <yawgmoth7> Athlon
[03:37] <oxez> how can I make an app to use gcc-3 instead of gcc-4?
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: The entire section, starting at "title" and ending at "boot"
[03:37] <oxez> (to compile)
[03:37] <remyforbes777> cant get x to run on my AMD turion
[03:37] <remyforbes777> freezes at login
[03:37] <reter> thoreauputic, is there a way to add the database?
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: again, that won't actually delete the kernel image though
[03:37] <robotgeek> oxez: export cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: It'll just remove it from the boot list
[03:37] <thoreauputic> reter: database?
[03:38] <robotgeek> oxez: then to be sure, go cc -v
[03:38] <fr33mind> Ninjew: What I though
[03:38] <oxez> robotgeek: ok, and once I'm done I reset it to /usr/bin/gcc-4 ?
[03:38] <Ninjew> fr33mind: anyway, try changing the 'splash' to 'nosplash', and rebooting. That will disable the cool looking bootsplah for now, but it should also disable the framebuffer that it requires to do that
[03:38] <test> Newbie back in again:  Error, unable to find kernel source tree for currently running kernel....
[03:38] <robotgeek> oxez: it's will go away when you close the term
[03:38] <fr33mind> Ninjew: ok now... I will loose the splash :(  no way to keep splash and have a correct console?
[03:38] <test> it's questioning source files missing
[03:39] <Ninjew> fr33mind: well, we are just testing to see if thats the problem
[03:39] <fr33mind> Ninjew: ok.
[03:39] <Ninjew> fr33mind: if it is, you will probably have to add some special video mode info to that kernel line
[03:39] <reter> thoreauputic, well you know that the printer options suppose to have hundreds of printer models listed. mine has only a handful. how can one add the others?
[03:39] <oxez> robotgeek: cc -v still shows gcc-4.0
[03:39] <sproingie> export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[03:39] <fr33mind> Ninjew: Ok I try and reboot... give me 2-3 minutes.
[03:39] <sproingie> case counts
[03:39] <Ninjew> fr33mind: alright
[03:39] <oxez> oh, thanks sproingie
[03:39] <thoreauputic> reter: that's odd - is this a standard install of Ubuntu?
[03:40] <robotgeek> sproingie: thanks
[03:40] <oxez> sproingie: it still shows 4.0 :O
[03:40] <rj_> I have a question - I have a dual boot setup, with windows xp and ubuntu hoary, I had to re-install windows and windows overwrote my MBR and now I can't boot into grub and use ubuntu, whats the easiest way to re-install the grub bootloader?
[03:40] <thoreauputic> reter: apt-cache search cups | less
[03:40] <sproingie> oxez: it won't affect the cc command.  it will affect autoconf and well-written makefiles
[03:40] <oxez> sproingie: alright, thanks again
[03:41] <robotgeek> sproingie: shud it be export $CC ?
[03:41] <cafuego_> No.
[03:41] <sproingie> oxez: i don't recommend overriding the default cc globally.  the system makes some assumptions about what gcc it's compiled with, changing those is unwise
[03:41] <fr33mind> I'll be back.
[03:41] <oxez> sproingie: bmp-wma compiled with gcc-3, I had some errors with gcc-4
[03:41] <satafterh> anyone have issues with limewire freezeing
[03:41] <sproingie> oxez: just get used to invoking the specific version you want when you need that version.  anything with a proper makefile will use the value of CC
[03:41] <test> this is a brand new install and i think srcs must be missing.  any ideas on how to correct?
[03:42] <rj_> anyone know how to reinstall the grub mbr?
[03:42] <cafuego_> test: install them?
[03:42] <atty> anybody here use qcad?
[03:43] <sproingie> oxez: if you're really determined, you can always change the gcc symbolic link to point to whatever version you want, or put your own symlink in ~/bin
[03:43] <jrattner1> When trying to start the game "America's Army" i get the following error: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[03:43] <jrattner1> any ideas?
[03:43] <yawgmoth7> sproingie: i dont think that export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[03:43] <yawgmoth7>  works..............because i just tried that, i was needing to do the same thing as oxez..use gcc-3.
[03:43] <test> I thought I did but driver installation gives that kernel source tree error message and the install fails
[03:43] <yawgmoth7> gcc-3.4*
[03:43] <joetheodd> In my opinion, most C programs should be indented six feet downward and covered with dirt.
[03:43] <sproingie> oxez: it's an unhealthy habit ... you can get screwed in subtle ways by doing that
[03:44] <oxez> sproingie: okay
[03:44] <cafuego> test: What driver?
[03:44] <test> video driver
[03:44] <mgcross> anyone know how I can remove nvidia drivers installed with the nvidia installer?
[03:44] <test> nvidia board
[03:44] <cafuego> You shouldn't be compiling that. It's packaged.
[03:44] <cafuego> test: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.x
[03:44] <oxez> sproingie: I sent a bug report to the other of the plugin, hope this will get fixed :O
[03:45] <cafuego> And even IF you're compiling it, you shouldn't be using the fsource from the nvidia site.
[03:45] <test> I'm not compliling.  just going through the install on a new distro
[03:45] <cafuego> test: then the kernel source isn't required.
[03:46] <fr33mind> Ninjew: that's work.
[03:46] <test> well it's not working
[03:46] <cafuego> test; Do not run the file you downloaded from nvidia.
[03:46] <cafuego> test: What kernel you running? (paste the output from uname -r)
[03:47] <test> just a sec
[03:47] <test> 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic
[03:47] <crimsun> you'll want 2.6.12-9
[03:48] <cafuego> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-amd64-generic
[03:48] <crimsun> fixes a few amd64-related issues.
[03:48] <test> awesome
[03:48] <test> i'll try that now
[03:48] <test> thanks!
[03:48] <cafuego> And linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 as well actually
[03:48] <test> ok
[03:48] <cafuego> test: Not ethat 2.6.12-9- has a different version restricted modules too.
[03:48] <ripgut> hey guys i need urgent help
[03:49] <Ninjew> fr33mind: It Worked?
[03:49] <ripgut> im in kde but my panels are gone all i have is my wallpaper
[03:49] <fr33mind> ninjew: yep
[03:49] <ripgut> al i can do is right lick and bring up the terminal
[03:49] <Ninjew> fr33mind: alright, what video card do you have? Also, what kind of monitor?
[03:49] <ripgut> how do i restore my pnaels
[03:50] <poningru> dreamie
[03:50] <ripgut> chavo
[03:50] <chavo> hello
[03:50] <fr33mind> Ninjew: laptop... sis video lcd 1024x768  and external viewsonic lcd 1024x768 too
[03:50] <ripgut> dude i so need your help
[03:50] <chavo> what's up?
[03:50] <Ninjew> fr33mind: oh ok, i suspected it was a laptop -- do you have both internal and external monitors plugged in?
[03:50] <ripgut> i need to restore my desktop panels in kde there missing....
[03:51] <fr33mind> Ninjew: yes
[03:51] <Ninjew> fr33mind: out of curiosity, have you tried it without the external monitor plugged in?
[03:51] <fr33mind> Ninjew: no
[03:51] <Ninjew> fr33mind: hm
[03:51] <root__> help, im on IRSSI, i cannot logon as root on gnome ; first install (and boot) of hoary, i can log in root only in terminal  and gnome says an error about my line 19 of /etc/sudoers
[03:51] <ripgut> what do i type in terminal to restore my desktop panels
[03:52] <chavo> ripgut, you mean the taskbar?
[03:52] <Ninjew> fr33mind: well, try this:
[03:52] <Ninjew> fr33mind: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst again
[03:52] <chavo> ripgut, kicker
[03:52] <cafuego> root__: Root is disabled on ubuntu. Fix your sudoers file and login as user.
[03:52] <ripgut> yes
[03:52] <ltf> anybody want to help me do something crazy with wget?
[03:52] <root__> cafeugo, i know i cannot LOG on as root, but i cannot even sudo ,,hence the problem
[03:52] <ripgut> kicker?
[03:53] <Narg> cafuego: from my looking at /etc/sudoers, you just add to admin group, not change the file. Am I on crack?
[03:53] <robotgeek> ltf: man wget
[03:53] <chavo> that's the name of the program
[03:53] <root__> cafeugo, and i'm here to know HOW to fix my sudoers file
[03:53] <cafuego> root__: Boot into recovery mode.
[03:53] <ltf> robotgeek, i sure did
[03:53] <cafuego> Narg: indeed
[03:53] <Ninjew> fr33mind: go bck to the line that you edited to do nosplash
[03:53] <ltf> else i wouldn't be in here
[03:53] <robotgeek> ltf: then, what's the issue!
[03:53] <root__> what recovcery will change..?
[03:53] <ripgut> my taksbars are missing? :(
[03:53] <vbgunz> bob2: I've successfully mapped all network shares and Ubuntu has access to all of them... I just ate and relaxed a bit and am back on... Can you help define to me how to share a folder with a Windows PC? I created a folder in my home directory and shared it to SMB *but* not sure how Windows can get access to it... Please help
[03:53] <ltf> i want to recure through many pages, looking for files matching a certain extension
[03:53] <cafuego> root__: It will give you a working shell with root permissions.
[03:53] <ripgut> taskbars*
[03:54] <ltf> i don't know the names of the pages, it just needs to match the ext.
[03:54] <Ninjew> fr33mind: and try adding: video=vesafb:ywrap,1024x768-16@60 to that
[03:54] <cafuego> ETA on ubotu: 30 minutes
[03:54] <ripgut> okay... noone wants to help
[03:54] <Ninjew> fr33mind: or actually, add video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1024x768-16@60
[03:54] <fr33mind> Ninjew: Yes my lord.
[03:54] <bob2> vbgunz: I've only used samba itself for that, I don't know how gnome does it
[03:54] <cafuego> ripgut: You got help, just failed to do anything with it.
[03:55] <cafuego> ripgut: Check if kicker is running via 'ps'. if not, start it.
[03:55] <Ninjew> fr33mind: leave it at nosplash, however
[03:55] <cafuego> If it is, kill it, then start it.
[03:55] <chavo> ripgut, run kicker from the konsole and see what happens
[03:55] <ripgut> how do i restore them?
[03:55] <Ninjew> fr33mind: try rebooting with that in, see if that works at all /cuts things off
[03:55] <ripgut> command not found
[03:55] <vbgunz> bob2: ok, no biggie, I was planning on tackling this tomorrow but I'll dabble with it :D Thanks!
[03:56] <ripgut> i just type "kicker" right?
[03:56] <Ninjew> fr33mind: oo wait
[03:56] <chavo> yeah
[03:56] <Ninjew> fr33mind:  one more thing
[03:56] <Ninjew> fr33mind: try also adding vga=791 to that line as well
[03:56] <linner|HOME> what would ya'll suggest... that I wipe the partition with ubuntu and do a fresh install with breezy or just wait until the release date for the updates?
[03:56] <ripgut> im installing kicker right now, duh, i had to have it first....
[03:56] <ripgut> stupid me
[03:57] <ripgut> there it goes!
[03:57] <cafuego> ripgut: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <ripgut> thanks
[03:57] <Ninjew> fr33mind: so you want to add 'vga=791 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1024x768-16@60' to that line
[03:57] <Ninjew> fr33mind: give that a shot
[03:57] <ripgut> thanks guys!
[03:59] <felix_> I need help ; i jsut installed hoary, and i have a login in sudo problem ; it have to do with my  etc/sudoers file, but i dont know how to edit it.  i am in recovery mode now
[04:00] <felix_> someone ?
[04:00] <bimberi> felix_: visudo
[04:01] <fr33mind> ninjew: I keep nosplash?
[04:01] <satafterh> is breezy all right to upgraade with now
[04:02] <felix_> i know how to use pico or nano ; but i dont know WHAT actually to change in the file ; plus, you have to be root to edit it, and THATS my problem, i can only log in as root in terminal   outside of gnome
[04:02] <felix_> please..
[04:02] <robotgeek> felix_: you must only use visudo to edit the file
[04:02] <bimberi> felix_: use the arrow keys to move to the bottom of the file
[04:03] <felix_> felix@renouveau:~$ visudo /etc/sudoers
[04:03] <felix_> usage: visudo [-c]  [-f sudoers]  [-q]  [-s]  [-V]
[04:03] <felix_> thats all what it does
[04:03] <bob2> felix_: what on earth did you do to it?
[04:03] <felix_> 'installed ubuntu'
[04:03] <felix_> its the first boot  ...
[04:03] <bob2> and sudo doesn't work?
[04:03] <felix_> nope
[04:04] <remyforbes777> if I copy the xorg config file from knoppix to my ubuntu 64 will that possibly work
[04:04] <felix_> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<
[04:04] <felix_> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 19
[04:04] <bob2> felix_: what's your username?
[04:04] <cafuego> So fix it.
[04:04] <felix_> felix
[04:04] <cafuego> remyforbes777: Probably, yes.
[04:04] <robotgeek> !tell felix_  about sudo
[04:04] <remyforbes777> ok
[04:04] <bob2> felix_: boot into recovery mode, then show us what line 19 is
[04:05] <felix_> I AM in recovery mode : /
[04:05] <jhenn> Cannot initialize device
[04:05] <jhenn> You do not have the proper permissions to write to /dev/floppy/0 or /dev/fd0, formatting will not be possible.
[04:05] <jhenn> Contact your system administrator about getting write permissions.
[04:05] <remyforbes777> because x will not work with my  ubuntu 64 but it does in knoppix
[04:05] <cafuego> felix_: Then please paste line 19 here.
[04:05] <jhenn> did you see my paste people?
[04:06] <jhenn> floppy formatter won't format this floppy
[04:06] <felix_> cafeugo, you dont really read what i say here eh ? i cannot acess the file in gnome, it have to be in console
[04:06] <cafuego> jhenn: Prefix your command with 'sudo'.
[04:06] <bob2> felix_: what does that have to do with IRC?
[04:06] <bob2> felix_: anyway, open it in a text editor and look at line 19
[04:06] <cafuego> felix_: if you're in recovery mode, you're NOT in gnome.
[04:06] <felix_> ??
[04:07] <jhenn> cafuego: do you know to call gnome floppy formatter from cli?
[04:07] <remyforbes777> recorvery mode is the same as command prompt
[04:07] <cafuego> jhenn: sudo apt-get install mtools; mformat a:
[04:07] <cafuego> jhenn: Or check which group owns /dev/fd0 and add yourself to that group.
[04:07] <felix_> well i choosed 'session de secours'      at the gnome log screen, translated, it looks a lot like a recovery mode..
[04:07] <ksmurf> how are all tonight?
[04:08] <cafuego> felix_: No, recovery mode is in the LILO or GRUB menu.
[04:08] <vbgunz> ksmurf: hello
[04:08] <cafuego> felix_: That will boot into a CLI root shell
[04:08] <jhenn> felix_: is your first name jhef?
[04:08] <felix_> looks like i dont have this menu
[04:08] <felix_> arr
[04:08] <felix_> ??
[04:08] <cafuego> felix_: Hold down a key when booting, then the menu (or list) will come.
[04:08] <ksmurf> vbgunz :>)
[04:08] <jhenn> felix_: do you go to hcc?
[04:09] <felix_> anyway as for opening the file here i cant. just wont.
[04:09] <jhenn> cafuego: zenlunatic@ubuntu:~$ sudo mformat a:
[04:09] <jhenn> mformat: Can't open /dev/fd0: No such file or directory
[04:09] <ZBlach|Away> hi
[04:09] <cafuego> jhenn: Load the floppy driver.
[04:10] <felix_> i CAN log in as root in a console, so whats the difference between recovery and root in terminal ?
[04:10] <jhenn> cafuego: you mean the kernel module?
[04:10] <ZBlach|Away> I have a speedstream 6520 router/dsl modem that I cannot connect to using linux. any one else have the same problem/suggestions
[04:10] <ZBlach|Away> ?
[04:10] <cafuego> jhenn: yep
[04:10] <jhenn> cafuego: its loaded
[04:10] <SpudDogg> hello
[04:11] <jhenn> cafuego: i can access floppy through nautilus
[04:11] <cafuego> jhenn: Hmm, odd. can you run /mkfs.fat' on it?
[04:11] <SpudDogg> I have a pretty dumb question...Is it possible that Ubuntu is blocking ports even though they're open in my router settings?
[04:12] <felix_> bob2 , i know my line 19 by heart ;    root         ALL=(ALL) ALL          (and i added under it    ' felix         ALL=(ALL) ALL
[04:12] <cafuego> SpudDogg: No. Ubuntu isn't listening on any ports by default and does not have a firewall enabled byd efault.
[04:12] <bob2> wtf
[04:12] <cafuego> felix_: You may have messed up tab or spacing. Just check to make sure.
[04:12] <bob2> felix_: why did you add that line at all?
[04:13] <felix_> bob2, cause i was unable to sudo with felix, it was saying the user ws not in the sudoers
[04:13] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: if the real problem is that it's a wireless AP that you cannot access while using ndiswrapper, you need to mention that in your question
[04:13] <bob2> felix_: the root user is not enabled on ubuntu, anyway
[04:13] <felix_> i KNOW
[04:13] <felix_> felix is  user
[04:13] <ZBlach|Away> alright, I cannot access my wireless AP using ndiswrapper
[04:14] <felix_> but i cannot like, run updates or anything
[04:14] <cafuego> felix_: You normally add a user to the group 'admin' to enable sudo for them.
[04:14] <bob2> felix_: so why do you have a sudo line for root?
[04:14] <bob2> felix_: your user doesn't need to be in sudoers, anyway
[04:14] <ZBlach|Away> I was able to using my old router, but we've had to change net providers
[04:14] <cafuego> felix_: Did you cross-upgrade from Debian to Ubuntu?
[04:14] <felix_> well, it wasnt working, and its still not working
[04:14] <felix_> no.
[04:14] <bob2> felix_: are you in the admin group?
[04:14] <felix_> simple first install on a printed cd.
[04:15] <cafuego> felix_: How many users did you create on the system?
[04:15] <felix_> i will have to reboot to see that since no root acess at all here
[04:15] <felix_> 1
[04:15] <bob2> felix_: you don't need root access to chec kthat
[04:15] <cafuego> felix_: Ok. Does your sudoers file mention '%admin' at all?
[04:15] <felix_> when i typed  adduser felix admin , it said  'admin group didnt exist'
[04:16] <cafuego> felix_: Are you sure you're on Ubuntu?
[04:16] <bob2> felix_: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1" print out?
[04:16] <alzabar> hi
[04:16] <felix_> cafeugo, ahh that is, i am on WinME ! ...
[04:16] <sproingie> it's adm, not admin
[04:16] <cafuego> And if so, which version? 4.10? 5.04? 5.10?
[04:16] <felix_> stupid question.
[04:16] <cafuego> sproingie: No, it's 'admin'.
[04:16] <alzabar> I just installed ubuntu and my x failed to start
[04:16] <NoUse> felix_ being a smart ass is a GREAT way to get people to help you
[04:17] <bob2> sproingie: adm is a different group
[04:17] <sproingie> chuck@tetsuo:~$ cat /etc/group | grep adm
[04:17] <sproingie> adm:x:4:chuck
[04:17] <sproingie> lpadmin:x:107:chuck
[04:17] <alzabar> I have no idea what to do
[04:17] <sproingie> amd that's it
[04:17] <bob2> sproingie: you didn't install hoary
[04:17] <sproingie> and yeah i'm pretty sure i'm on ubuntu
[04:17] <felix_> NoUIse, i DID said it was a fresh install of a printed CD , and he ask me if i am sur if its ubuntu
[04:17] <bob2> also, please don't be a smart arse for no reason
[04:17] <bob2> felix_: can you show me what that printed out?
[04:17] <sproingie> bob2: actually i did.  however, i used the expert install, which sets up a normal root user
[04:17] <bob2> as fun as you whinging is
[04:17] <NoUse> felix_ from what I've seen thats a valid quetsion
[04:17] <bob2> sproingie: right
[04:17] <cafuego> felix_: I salso asked WHICH version. Can you answer or shall I stop trying to help?
[04:18] <felix_> bob2, ii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
[04:18] <cafuego> !info libc6 hoary
[04:18] <cafuego> shite
[04:18] <ZBlach|Away> -_-
[04:18] <bob2> felix_: and you did a default install?
[04:18] <WinZ> !info apache2 breezy
[04:18] <felix_> hoary
[04:18] <felix_> 5.04
[04:18] <cafuego> the bot is dead
[04:18] <bob2> felix_: if you did an expert install, you will be thwapped
[04:18] <felix_> bob2m, yeas
[04:18] <WinZ> mm
[04:19] <felix_> default install
[04:19] <remyforbes777> is the xorg config file located in the etc directory
[04:19] <cafuego> remyforbes777:  /etc/X11
[04:20] <remyforbes777> cafuego: thanks
[04:20] <felix_> bob2 , it SHOULD be something simple, since i installed, logged in, and i was just not able to udpate (didnt accept password)         then i add a line in /etc/sudoers , thats all
[04:21] <cafuego> felix_: At the bottom of the sudoers file, there should be a line starting with '%admin'. Your usera ccount should have been automatically added to the admin group, thus enabling sudo for you.
[04:21] <cafuego> felix_: Where did you obtain that cd?
[04:22] <felix_> its an official printed cd from ubuntu.org, i installed my ubuntu with the same kind of cd...and all worked well (this is not my comp)
[04:22] <bluefoxicy> can hoary livecd auto-build an fstab?
[04:22] <cafuego> felix_: Any chance you could try and do a fresh install?
[04:22] <bluefoxicy> it does'nt see fat32 /dev/hda1 and let me point-click-mount
[04:22] <felix_> yep..thinking about this..
[04:22] <felix_> i'll reinstall :(