[03:48] <schrepfler> when, where?
[03:48] <Cpudan80> schrepfler: so - if you push ESC after you pass post, you'll see the grub menu
[03:49] <tacojohn> schrepfler, theres a button on the last step on the install, you can change the hd and partition there
[03:49] <Cpudan80> it should show that on the screen
[03:49] <alraune> Cpudan80:think the grub-quest was about where it installs itself
[03:49] <Cpudan80> oh
[03:49] <schrepfler> oh, I must have missed that butten
[03:49] <Cpudan80> sorry - read that wrong :-/
[03:49] <crdlb> obx: there is a "Fixed width font" option in gnome's appearance properties, which is what the terminal uses by default. It breaks badly with a non monospaced font
[03:49] <Devourer> Xorg is running at about 40% CPU, is this normal? I have a Pentium dual core 1.8 GHz.
[03:49] <obx> i set it to a monospaced one
[03:49] <tacojohn> yeah it doesnt say anthing about grub
[03:49] <tacojohn> on the buttono anyways
[03:49] <obx> and it's still squashed
[03:50] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer no
[03:50] <alraune> schrepfler: think depends on the installer, the desktop has, not so the alternate installer
[03:50] <BobPenguin> Hello there. Suddenly there is a folder called .dbus in my home folder, its unreadable by my user and i belongs to the root. Should I be worried for that, or is this just normal?
[03:50] <crdlb> obx: ok, in gnome-terminal, go to edit > current profile, and make sure it's set to use the system font
[03:50] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, how can I figure out why it's doing this?
[03:50] <fizzik_> histo: i got a little notice that its using a nvidia driver
[03:50] <fizzik_> histo, propertiary driver
[03:50] <Ryan_Macy> admin>system monitor
[03:50] <homerj> has anyone set up a bluetooth headset with alsa? It will output sound, but I can't use the mic.
[03:50] <tacojohn> schrepfler, its the advanced button http://files.fosswire.com/2007/04/ubuntufeistyinstallpicture-8.png
[03:50] <Cpudan80> BobPenguin: normal
[03:50] <obx> nope still squashed
[03:50] <homerj> I tried to use alsamixer, and it just freezes
[03:51] <Cpudan80> BobPenguin: should be readable by your user... but...
[03:51] <histo> fizzik_: yeah now try to change the resolution after restarting
[03:51] <obx> and now the words in here are all cutting off at a certain point
[03:51] <schrepfler> I think this is older ubuntu?
[03:51] <crdlb> obx: I don't know; could you take a screenshot and upload it to http://picpaste.com ?
[03:51] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer then sort by cpu usage
[03:51] <obx> yeah 2 seconds
[03:51] <fizzik_> histo, I dont get the thing your talking about when i go to system> administration > hardware drivers
[03:51] <BobPenguin> thanks a lot Cpudan88 :)
[03:52] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, alright.
[03:52] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[03:52] <uoaphys> hi, i went to System, then Administration, then "users and groups"... How come I can't change anything? its all greyed out but im the admin of the system
[03:52] <schrepfler> mh
[03:52] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer what program is using up your cpu?
[03:52] <uoaphys> im trying to add myself to the virtualbox users group
[03:52] <schrepfler> thanks anyway
[03:52] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, new one i see it there but it has been enabled a long time ago
[03:53] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, X...
[03:53] <Cpudan80> uoaphys: hit the unlock button
[03:53] <obx> crdlb: http://picpaste.com/2008-08-08-225205_1280x800_scrot.png
[03:53] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, but it got me locked at 1024x768 @ 50hz
[03:53] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer im sorry I thought you meant  40% cpu usage in general
[03:53] <uoaphys> damnit, your right cpudan80
[03:53] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, no. X is using 40%.
[03:53] <uoaphys> i didn't even notice it there
[03:53] <uoaphys> seems like a lame way to protect users against themselves heh
[03:53] <crdlb> obx: whoa, what font is it set to?
[03:53] <uoaphys> oh well
[03:53] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer 1s I know there is a command to see what x is doing
[03:54] <obx> system font
[03:54] <fizzik_> argg
[03:54] <alraune> fizzik_:apt-get install displaycongig-gtk                ,then run it
[03:54] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: ok so righ gksu displayconfig-gtk
[03:54] <obx> it's only the terminal that's doing that
[03:54] <Cpudan80> alraune: not necessary
[03:54] <Quenyar> Video Display problems with 8.04 LTS on antideluvian x86 box with Matrox video card. When I scroll in the browser window, this happens: http://goomba.com/www2/hwm/Screenshot.png - this was the Ubuntu welcome screen. I have tried several different resolutions and other video settings, but it just doesn't paint the screen properly. any suggestions??
[03:54] <RoshanK> does anyone know how i would be able to tunnel irc chats through ssh? my college blocks port 6667 and i cant use irc while on campus
[03:54] <obx> cept xchat is now cutting off the last part of any sentence
[03:54] <fonzarelli> chimp: has anyone suggested  dpkg-reconfigure grub
[03:54] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: Run that in terminal
[03:54] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, 1s?
[03:54] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer 1s= one sec
[03:54] <naruttebayo> Hi. I'm running Linux Mint and I'm trying to install gOS, and since both of those operating systems are basically remixes of Ubuntu I'm asking here. I made a gOS liveCD, However when I load it up it hangs at "ISOLINUX (c) etc. etc. LOADING..." and then stopped. Rewriting new disks at different speeds did not help. So then I used the Ubuntu live CD that I had originally used to install Ubuntu on my computer and tried it out. It woul
[03:54] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, haha, oh. Alright. :)
[03:55] <Ryan_Macy> :)
[03:55] <jayson_r> /auit
[03:55] <alraune> Quenyaer: which matrox card ?
[03:55] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: when you get in there -- what does the model field say?
[03:55] <Dr_willis_> naruttebayo,  so to shorten it a bit.. You cant get 'gos' live cd to boot right?
[03:55] <fizzik_> E: Couldn't find package displaycongig-gtk
[03:56] <Scorp__> Guys, i am unable to telnet to my router.. What could be the reason ???
[03:56] <alraune> Quenyar: which matrox card ?
[03:56] <naruttebayo> Dr_willis_:Basically, yeah. But it's also every other Ubuntu-based LiveCD.
[03:56] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer you have core 2 duo processor?
[03:56] <shear> hmm, it seems that my computer is changing /etc/motd on me. Any way to keep it static?
[03:56] <alraune> fizzik_:sudo apt-get install displaycongig-gtk                ,then run it
[03:56] <Cpudan80> Scorp__: most dont support telnet
[03:56] <fizzik_> i already have it
[03:56] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: are you sure you are using the correct IP for your router?
[03:56] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, yeah.
[03:56] <Cpudan80> alraune: again, that is not necessary
[03:56] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, ok its open
[03:56] <hassu> port closed
[03:56] <Cpudan80> alraune: its already installed
[03:56] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I don't think it's usually using this much CPU.
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> naruttebayo,  i had a od machine that diddnet like a lot of the various ubuntu cd's - I think i even tually replaced the optical drive and it started playing nicer.
[03:56] <fizzik_> its got the right model graphics card in there
[03:56] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I'm just noticing a slight lag.
[03:56] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: so what does it say under "model" ?
[03:56] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Yeah... its the default one that i use.. <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:57] <obx> is there anything that i can view recently installed packages?
[03:57] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, plug and play
[03:57] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I might restart, but I wouldn't expect a Linux distro requiring restart.
[03:57] <obx> like just a list of recently installed ones
[03:57] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: ok click the gfx card tab, what does it say
[03:57] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: linksys?
[03:57] <naruttebayo> Dr_willis_: Oh dear god. I hope I don't have to replace the optical drive o_O...maybe the lens just needs cleaning...
[03:57] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: for the driver field
[03:57] <Akabal> How can i run kismet in ubuntu
[03:57] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: yeah... does it not support ??
[03:57] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: what model
[03:57] <Akabal> i insatalled it already
[03:57] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: WAG200G
[03:57] <Dr_willis_> naruttebayo,   No idea. I have a whold stack of cd/dvd drives.. :) faster for me to swap one out.. then to find some cleaning 'stuff' that may or may not help
[03:58] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer well if its x you would'nt have to you could just shutdown x and restart it
[03:58] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, lol no idea what your trying to get me to tell you
[03:58] <tacojohn> Devourer,  does it recognize both cores, on my athlon xp2 64 i had to use the generic kernel, the i386 kernel didnt see them both
[03:58] <Akabal> ANyone know how i can run kismet
[03:58] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: so - click the graphics card tab, what does the driver field say?
[03:58] <heridanus> hi
[03:58] <afallenhope> MASS: rebooting
[03:58] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: nope, no telnet access, only http on that one
[03:58] <infinitycircuit> tacojohn, i386 won't see it but generic will
[03:59] <Devourer> tacojohn, it does... And if it didn't I would percieve that as a problem as this kind of activity is not normal.
[03:59] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: When it says trying <IP_ADDRESS> and then Connected <IP_ADDRESS> then after that nothing happens...
[03:59] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, would that close other applications that are currently using X?
[03:59] <Akabal> How can i run kismet
[03:59] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: I have another peculiar prob... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=883688 please look into this for a sec.
[03:59] <naruttebayo> Dr_willis_: Thanks though. I just think that since it's refusing CD's that have worked before in the same drive it might have something to do with that. I'm glad I got help here...gOS's Distro-specific support is terrible xP
[03:59] <crdlb> obx: try setting it to 'DejaVu Sans Mono'
[04:00] <uoaphys> hi, how do I add pidgen to startup when I login?
[04:00] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer yes
[04:00] <heridanus> i have one text file for execute emesene but always he question me if  i need execute or exib the content of the file but i need only execute how i execute it directly??
[04:00] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, yeah, I don't think I want that.
[04:00] <Scorp__> uoaphys: Use the sessions option in system preferences
[04:00] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer when you open the system monitor does it list both cores
[04:00] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: someone suggested the page might not work correctly in firefox
[04:01] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: But its not working even in Opera... And its working wid firefox on opensuse and windows
[04:01] <heridanus> like a program??
[04:01] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, yes.
[04:01] <shear> uoaphys, System > Preferences > Sessions
[04:01] <shear> Scorp__ already got it :P
[04:02] <uoaphys> what is the point of tracker and tracker app?
[04:02] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer hmmm what programs are you running? Areyou using desktop effects with a intergrated gfx card?
[04:02] <Scorp__> shear: u made it more clear... ;)
[04:02] <shear> :)
[04:02] <uoaphys> does it do drive indexing like other OS's do? (windows, and mac?)
[04:02] <dillinghams> ahh..hello
[04:02] <Ryan_Macy> uoa
[04:02] <Scorp__> Is anyone here using a WAG200G Linksys ???
[04:02] <dillinghams> I am a Noob and need help
[04:02] <Ryan_Macy> right click a panel
[04:02] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, nope. Just the default effects.
[04:02] <Ryan_Macy> and add the indexer
[04:02] <dillinghams> can anyone help me? I just switched from XPPro
[04:02] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, and I've ran them before and didn't seem to hinder any processes.
[04:03] <Scorp__> dillinghams: ask your question... some1 will answer
[04:03] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I have Amarok, Pidgin, Firefox, and... That's about it.
[04:03] <Cpudan80> dillinghams: whats up?
[04:03] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, System Monitor.
[04:03] <dillinghams> hey CPU
[04:03] <dillinghams> How do I message just you?
[04:03] <fonzarelli> dillinghams: just ask your question to the room, someone will answer
[04:03] <Akabal> Windows rulz> not a fact
[04:03] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer hmm do you have cpu scaling on?
[04:04] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, what do you mean?
[04:04] <heridanus> may help me?  i have one text file for execute emesene but always he question me if  i need execute or exib the content of the file but i need only execute how i execute it directly??
[04:04] <Cpudan80> dillinghams: type my nick in the front of the message to alert me (type cpud <tab>) or /msg Cpudan80
[04:04] <dmi3on> pls some one help me to solve this problem: GRUB Reading error this doenst help me  sudo grub, find ... , root..., setup,
[04:05] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Any clue ???
[04:05] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: no idea, didn't see anything on google either :(
[04:06] <dmi3on> can some one help me pls
[04:06] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Yeah, same here... Have been lookin for it since such a long time. Even upgraded the firmware but no use...
[04:06] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: if it were me, i would install the HTTPFox extension, then try to access the page and see if any errors appear that might help me narrow down the problem
[04:06]  * dmi3on is thinking to hit PC with a chair
[04:06] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer cpu scaling is when the OS changesyour cpu's freq to the demand
[04:06] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: wats the HTTPFox extension ???
[04:06] <heridanus> may some one  help me please?  i have one text file for execute emesene but always he question me if  i need execute or exib the content of the file but i need only execute how i execute it directly??
[04:06] <Fizzik> alirght histo, when i enable that propertiary drive it locks me at 1024x768 @ 50hz if i disable it i can get w.e i want why is that? isnt the propertairy drive for 2d and 3d acceleration?
[04:06] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, oh, I don't know. How could I check?
[04:06] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: check it out:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6647
[04:07] <Scorp__> sure
[04:07] <dmi3on> pls some one help me to solve this problem: GRUB Reading error this doenst help me  sudo grub, find ... , root..., setup,
[04:07] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: it basically shows you any elements on the page that might be erroring out, etc
[04:08] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: ohh kewl... I'll just check out..!!
[04:08] <tacojohn> dmi3on, is that the only thing it shows, just grub reading error??
[04:08] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[04:08] <Ryan_Macy> run that in terminal
[04:08] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, 1800000 1200000
[04:09] <dmi3on> tacojohn, some times GRUB Stage1 reading error
[04:09] <dmi3on> tacojohn, can you help me ?
[04:09] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I think I'll just restart man. Not really that big of a deal if I don't.
[04:10] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer heh try it
[04:10] <Ryan_Macy> sorry I couldnt help you more man
[04:11] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, it's ok. If it becomes a frequent problem, then it's a problem.
[04:11] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Hey, gotcha... Its a prob with some javascript execution.. What could be done about that ??
[04:11] <pyrite1978__> Ryan_Macy: Is there by chance a way to lower the freq ?  say, make the range from 1.6-1.2  to 1.6-0.5 ?  not to that extreme just an example.
[04:11] <siimo> hi so far i have tried a couple of bittorrent clients on ubuntu, but which one is best?  i find nothign as good as utorrent
[04:11] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: what kind of error is it,  is it like a 404 missing .js page?
[04:12] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: maybe try googling those results from that error you found
[04:12] <SNuxoll> siimo: I don't need a jumbo torrent client
[04:12] <SNuxoll> siimo: I just need something to download torrents, and for that, transmission works fine
[04:12] <Ryan_Macy> pyrite1978__ yes
[04:12] <oskarBB> čau
[04:13] <Ryan_Macy> you can adjust to a lower setting to say preserve battery life
[04:13] <tallguy> #roothisbox
[04:13] <pyrite1978__> Ryan_Macy: Right,    i assume there would be no adverse effects from scaleing down?
[04:14] <infinitycircuit> pyrite1978__, use the ondemand kernel governor, it is the most efficient. underthrottling does very little but undervolting can be very helpful
[04:14] <Ryan_Macy> pyrite1978__ nope just a less hot system and a longer battery. Of course you will lose some performence
[04:15] <Ryan_Macy> pyrite1978__ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=597998
[04:15] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Can javascript be upgraded for firefox ?? I'm using ff 3
[04:16] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ I don't think so, you should have the latest version
[04:16] <yoge> hi ppl, Does anyone know a where can I find a template similar to the earlier ubuntu official website design?, (the one wit rounded tabs on the top right)
[04:16] <Blaqlight> no idea why but I tried to get mirc to work in ubuntu, what a waste of time. lol
[04:16] <pyrite1978__> Ryan_Macy: thanks!
[04:17] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: Yeah, but the page isn't loading properly cuz of the javascript thing which it was in OpenSUSE... Is javascript OS Dependent or browser dependent ???
[04:17] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ well browsers tend to handle things differently
[04:17] <Ryan_Macy> you're on ff3 correct?
[04:17] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: yeah...
[04:18] <Ryan_Macy> crtl+shift+J
[04:18] <Ryan_Macy> what errors are coming up?
[04:19] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: It says Expected ":" but found ";" - Declaration Dropped
[04:19] <Ryan_Macy> whats the page you're trying to open up?
[04:19] <Dr_willis_> sounds like a typo on thw eeb site javascript code to me.
[04:19] <Scorp__> its a .css file made by linksys !!
[04:19] <Scorp__> Warning: Expected ',' or '{' but found '0.6_std'.  Ruleset ignored due to bad selector.  Source File: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/cisco.css   Line: 52
[04:20] <Dr_willis_> yea.., Big corporations NEVER make mistakes... :)
[04:20] <Ryan_Macy> ah ok
[04:20] <Scorp__> Warning: Expected ':' but found ';'.  Declaration dropped. Source File: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/cisco.css Line: 82
[04:20] <Ryan_Macy> if its your router try updating the firmware
[04:21] <DozedOnLinux> tftp
[04:21] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8756
[04:21] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: I've done that... I guess it runs diff scripts for linux and windows as per what i saw in HTTPFox... So that could be a reason for the typo error in this script and not for other OS..
[04:21] <DozedOnLinux> !tftp
[04:22] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ its possible that the HTTPFox browser handles things more strictly than say ie6
[04:22] <Ryan_Macy> does it work in other browsers?
[04:22] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: umm, quite possible.. but on windows n OpenSUSe i was use firefox only.. not IE
[04:22] <Ryan_Macy> FF2 or 3
[04:22] <Scorp__> ff3
[04:22] <Ryan_Macy> always or is this the first time?
[04:23] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: as in ?? i've been using ff always, but this error has been there only on ubuntu all the time.. Not first time...
[04:23] <Ryan_Macy> Im talking about the version have you opened this page before in ff2?
[04:24] <Ryan_Macy> and it worked
[04:24] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: It hasnt worked there too...
[04:25] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: installed ff2 specially on ubuntu even though its 8.04
[04:25] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: are there any other browsers other than ff and opera ???
[04:25] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ yes
[04:25] <infinitycircuit> Scorp__, epiphany and konqueror?
[04:25] <Ryan_Macy> sudo apt-get install epiphany
[04:26] <Scorp__> infinitycircuit: I'll try them and get the results
[04:26] <Blaqlight> finally my cooling policy is working... its about time lol.
[04:26] <infinitycircuit> Scorp__, I wouldn't install them both but those are respectively the GNOME and KDE pet browsers
[04:27] <Ryan_Macy> it would be a good idea to use the gnome one on ubuntu
[04:27] <Scorp__> infinitycircuit: I just want to install to check where the prob is!! is it a ubuntu restriction or only firefox and opera that are creatin the prob...
[04:27] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ it sounds like your router bud
[04:27] <Ryan_Macy> if its producing bad js code then its not the browsers fault
[04:28] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: But the same browsers are working on other OS and working perfectly flawless..
[04:28] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: tried opera on XP the other day and it worked.
[04:28] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ you should have said that lol
[04:28] <Ryan_Macy> did you try reinstalling firefox?
[04:29] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: lol.. I told ya.. yeah, i did that too... infact got the stupid xulrunner error too... was without a browser for a day... haha
[04:29] <mio> Any idea how i can install ubuntu onto a laptop with no usb boot, no cd-rom, only floppy and a removeable harddrive ?
[04:29] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ got java installed?
[04:29] <Blaqlight> Scorp__, try sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox, then reinstall.
[04:29] <infinitycircuit> mio, install on the removable hd on another machine
[04:29] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: Sun Java 6
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> mio,  put hd in anothe box. install to hd.. replace hd
[04:30] <Ryan_Macy> Dr_willis_ wont that configure x to the system he installed it on
[04:30] <Blaqlight> mio what about network?
[04:30] <Dr_willis_> Ryan_Macy,  no idea. you can always reconfiogure X.
[04:30] <mio> infinitycircuit & dr_willis: it is a notebook harddrive that i have to plug in as usb to the desktop, i have a windows desktop, is this still possible ?
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> Ryan_Macy,  with the New X auto-configuring stuff. it may not be an issue at all.
[04:31] <mio> blaqlight: what are the requirements for a network install ?
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> mio,  there are laptopsized ide->normal ide adaptoprs.. or you can try isntalling to it from the cd to the usb drive
[04:31] <Ryan_Macy> mio just change the boot order
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> !install | mio
[04:32] <dmi3on> hi all, i can fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:32] <dmi3on> pls can some one help to fix this ?
[04:32] <slammed87d21> o i lower my firewall enuf to use gtk-gnutella?
[04:32] <slammed87d21> how do i?
[04:32] <Blaqlight> !grub | dmi3on
[04:32] <infinitycircuit> dmi3on, you've been trying this all afternoon you might have to give up and reinstall
[04:32] <Ryan_Macy> slammed87d21 do oyu have firestarter or are you talking about a router firewall
[04:33] <Blaqlight> mio, nevermind it requires a working cd player.
[04:33] <slammed87d21> im not sure, i never had a firewall setup on here before and my router soesnt have it setup
[04:33] <Ryan_Macy> dmi3on make /home on a different partition this time so you dont lose you're import documents
[04:34] <Blaqlight> slammed87d21, install firestarter 'sudo apt-get install firestarter'
[04:34] <Ryan_Macy> then you should be fine, you may have to port forward from your router to your computer
[04:34] <mio> one more question: if I install ubuntu on the notebook hdd from another desktop, it will work normally when I install it back into the notebook? what about drivers etc. ?
[04:34] <dmi3on> infinitycircuit, i did it doesnt help
[04:34] <Ryan_Macy> mio i don't think that will work
[04:34] <dmi3on> infinitycircuit, i reinstall two times
[04:34] <dmi3on> infinitycircuit, same error
[04:34] <Ryan_Macy> you would have to copy the hd to the laptop one
[04:34] <Blaqlight> mio ubuntu like many other os's don't like major hardware changes..
[04:34] <m_newton> Ok... great news... i got a buddy to teach python .... Sunday, August 10 at 12:00 PM EST ##beginners-help -- Python 101 {}^^^ it will be hands on help   |||Join all if u want to learn |||spread the word
[04:35] <SNuxoll> !spam | m_newton
[04:35] <dmi3on> hi all, i can fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:35] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:35] <Ryan_Macy> dmi30n reinstall
[04:35] <belorix> dmi3on, do what he said ^^
[04:35] <dmi3on> Ryan_Macy, two time doesnt help
[04:36] <dmi3on> times*
[04:36] <belorix> dmi3on, you have any other OS installed?
[04:36] <m_newton> SNuxoll: Ok... not spam... this is for fixing bugs, it is good to know python....
[04:36] <mio> I have dos on my notebook, what about copying iso onto harddrive, and any way of running the install ?
[04:36] <dmi3on> yes, vista
[04:36] <SNuxoll> m_newton: it's not a support question
[04:36] <hardheaded> hello?
[04:36] <belorix> dmi3on, i was going to say just lowlevel format, but you have *crys vista
[04:36] <dmi3on> belorix, on a other hard drive i have vista
[04:36] <Blaqlight> m_newton, take heed this is not for python, but for ubuntu, please don't do that here.
[04:37] <hardheaded> can someone help me I am VERY new to liux and ubuntu
[04:37] <m_newton> srr than
[04:37] <Ryan_Macy> mio you don't have a cdrom on your laptop
[04:37] <mio> Ryan_Macy: thats right
[04:37] <belorix> dmi3on, do this go into the install delete the partition you had linux on and the swap, remake them and reinstall that should fix
[04:37] <slammed87d21> firestarter says it has no active internet connection
[04:37] <DozedOnLinux> hardheaded: state your issue and someone may be able to help
[04:37] <Ryan_Macy> moi do oyu have the macbook air? lol
[04:37] <hardheaded> trying to install a game and keep gettiing an error saying that I do not have permission to write to  /usr/game
[04:38] <dmi3on> belorix, i did like this thats why i said two time
[04:38] <Ryan_Macy> i've never heard of a laptop with no cdrom besides that one
[04:38] <dmi3on> doesnt help :(
[04:38] <Ryan_Macy> hardheaded
[04:38] <Ryan_Macy> run install as sudo
[04:38] <Blaqlight> hardheaded, its because your probably don't, install to /home/game instead :P
[04:38] <DozedOnLinux> hardheaded:  what game are you trying to install ?
[04:38] <belorix> dmi3on, were you messing with grub bootloaders settings?
[04:38] <mio> lol no, i have an old Dell L400, not usb bootable, only floppy
[04:38] <hardheaded> yes
[04:38] <hardheaded> come again?
[04:38] <dmi3on> noo
[04:39] <hardheaded> sudo?
[04:39] <Blaqlight> /usr/* usually requires sudo to write too..
[04:39] <DozedOnLinux> hardheaded: as Blaqlight suggest, maybe try to install it to /home/game instead
[04:39] <hardheaded> is there a way to log in through root?
[04:39] <Ryan_Macy> mio try http://www.pocket-linux.org/
[04:39] <Comrade-Badger> Is there a reason why sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg has nothing in it about the video driver for me?
[04:40] <Blaqlight> hardheaded, if you insist on installing it too /usr/game then your going to need to be root to run or anything else the game, which of course is dangerous.
[04:40] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: you can try this autmated style one >sudo dpkg-reconfigure --default-priority xserver-xorg
[04:41] <alraune> Comrade-Badger: which card ?
[04:41] <Ryan_Macy> Blaqlight is right
[04:41] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, its some old trident card
[04:41] <hardheaded> I get that... but how would I login through root with the excepion of running from live cd?
[04:41] <mio> Ryan_Macy - what would i do with pocketlinux ?
[04:41] <Blaqlight> !sudo | hardheaded
[04:41] <Comrade-Badger> which i thought would auto configure seeing as its so old but its only working with 600x800
[04:42] <alraune> Comrade-Badger: no idea about trident, sry
[04:42] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: isnt trident an old card ? lucky it even works at all,
[04:42] <arrrghhh> ok so when i point firefox to localhost/test.php instead of rendering it tries to dl the file....
[04:42] <wols> DozedOnLinux: very old (and icky)
[04:42] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: what is the main issue then ? resolution mode ?
[04:42] <stemount^> arrrghhh: you musn't have PHP installed
[04:42] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, used to work in ubuntu hoary...
[04:43] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, yea
[04:43] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: that may not be too bad then
[04:43] <arrrghhh> stemount^, hrm.. i just installed php5...
[04:43] <stemount^> arrrghhh: have you restarted the web serve?
[04:43] <stemount^> r
[04:43] <wols> arrrghhh: what exactly did you install?
[04:43] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:did you try to manually edit xorg.conf or run displayconfig-gtk ?
[04:43] <Ryan_Macy> mio install it then install xorg and build yourself a linux
[04:43] <hardheaded> still no writ permission
[04:43] <hardheaded> write
[04:43] <Ryan_Macy> you can try Damnsmalllinux with a usb drive
[04:43] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  try this in terminal instead , choose monitor type, dont touch graphic card config >gksu displayconfig-gtk
[04:44] <arrrghhh> i'm setting up my LAMP again... i installed apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[04:44] <wols> arrrghhh: a2enmod php5?
[04:44] <Blaqlight> hardheaded, which game requires you to install in a folder that isn't normally write enabled to common users?
[04:44] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  it may only support up to max of 1024 , as it is an old card
[04:44] <arrrghhh> wols, just the php5 package in the repos...
[04:44] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, umm why dont use sudo or sudo -i or sudo su
[04:45] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  if you choose to do so. its a GUI based so i use gksu
[04:45] <hardheaded> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:45] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, well its being used witha 14 inch crt so i dont think the monitor will support much more than that anyways
[04:45] <Blaqlight> hardheaded, read the above comments.
[04:45] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  i can give you command for that too, just a sec
[04:45] <Blaqlight> ... or not.
[04:45] <arrrghhh> wols, seems i did need to restart apache2.
[04:46] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  montor caps > sudo ddcprobe
[04:46] <stemount^> arrrghhh: i win ;-)
[04:46] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: dont go above the spec of the monitor, you wont like it so much, nor will your monitor
[04:47] <arrrghhh> stemount^, lol yessir you do.  i didn't think i had to since i just installed it, but i guess it does make sense
[04:47] <stemount^> :D
[04:47] <Comrade-Badger> well gksu displayconfig-gtk locks the computer up
[04:47] <beta-guy> how can I up the speed of my CPU? basically it seems that the speedsep is running as the slowest speed it can :(
[04:47] <Ryan_Macy> man awk is glitchy
[04:47] <Ryan_Macy> beta-guy is cpu scaling on?
[04:47] <alraune> DozedOnLinux:maybe lucky when the damn thing burnt, lol
[04:47] <beta-guy> yes
[04:47] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: by the way, you can manually edit your xorg.conf, but it takes much longer and more difficult
[04:47] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  lol
[04:48] <mio> Ryan_Macy - thanks im going to try a network instlal
[04:48] <Ryan_Macy> mio - np
[04:48] <beta-guy> it's an older laptop
[04:48] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, i treid that, theres not anything inthere about the video, as id just change the driver from "vesa" to trident"
[04:48] <ds[de]> what should i look for in order to decrease my cpu's speed during idle time?
[04:48] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  just pcika more suitable monitor usually fixes it
[04:48] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: oh no
[04:48] <Ryan_Macy> beta-guy set the govenor to performance
[04:49] <chronographer> hello I am having problems mounting a remote drive... I am going from ubuntu hardy to hardy, xfce to gnome. tried NFS and SMB, both don't work, the remote directory is shared with both whats going wrong?
[04:49] <Comrade-Badger> itts not the monitors problem
[04:49] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: you dont understand
[04:49] <Ryan_Macy> governor*
[04:49] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  ok
[04:49] <beta-guy> govenor?
[04:49] <Ryan_Macy> Comrade-Badge do you have the correct xf86-video driver installed?
[04:49] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  i know it may seem as though that is what is going on, but if you know your monitor can do higher resolutions, you have to tell the vidcard it can too
[04:50] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  about as laymans terms as i can get
[04:50] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux,  what dont i understand? yea i know but the monitor will go up to 1280 ( i assume)
[04:50] <Ryan_Macy> beta-guy check out this how to on cpu scaling http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=597998
[04:50] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: then tell you vidcard it can
[04:50] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:  that is the whole idea
[04:50] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, im not new at this im just new to trident
[04:50] <chronographer> anyone help me trouble shoot samba for hardy?
[04:50] <Blaqlight> chronographer, are you in the 'fuse'group?
[04:51] <Ryan_Macy> DozedOnLinux do you want him to edit the xconf or something to add the res?
[04:51] <chronographer> um... i think so
[04:51] <DozedOnLinux> Ryan_Macy: no way, that would be last resort
[04:51] <chronographer> how do i check
[04:51] <tacojohn> Comrade-Badger, i know in dapper i used to have to add the resolutions int he xorg.conf or it would go to the resolution i wanted
[04:51] <DozedOnLinux> Ryan_Macy:  use normal methods, and nothing fancy unless you have to
[04:51] <Ryan_Macy> DozedOnLinux hmm is there a hwd program for ubuntu?
[04:52] <chronographer> no.. i am groups returns smbashare and fuse
[04:52] <DozedOnLinux> Ryan_Macy:  you mean a device manager style ?
[04:52] <alraune> Ryan_Macy: hwd ??
[04:52] <Comrade-Badger> tacojohn, yea i thought of that too but the reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt have the option here
[04:52] <Ryan_Macy> Its and arch program that configures your xconf to your video card
[04:52] <DozedOnLinux> either way, the xorg.conf needs to be told what the monitor can do, as the video card is already functional
[04:52] <Ryan_Macy> an*
[04:53] <tacojohn> i always just edited it in gedit
[04:53] <DozedOnLinux> Ryan_Macy: trident isnt even in the list of hardware supported, is it ?
[04:53] <Ryan_Macy> Comrade-Badger try this to get it done for you by hwd
[04:53] <Ryan_Macy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55950
[04:53] <Blaqlight> chronographer, ok type 'nautilus' into a terminal and see if you have network drives listed in the list to the left.
[04:53] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, yea the drivers in synaptic....
[04:54] <Blaqlight> network servers
[04:54] <Ryan_Macy> it is he just needs the xf86-video-trident drivers
[04:54] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, and installed by default
[04:54] <Ryan_Macy> he is probably using the vesa ones
[04:54] <chronographer> Network servers is listed, it give serror message when I click it
[04:54] <Comrade-Badger> Ryan_Macy, yes i am
[04:54] <Blaqlight> chronographer, saying?
[04:54] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger: i will be quiet now, as speaking will do no good.
[04:54] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, lol wut?
[04:54] <chronographer> 'couldn't display network:///'   (I am remotely accesing the computer with ssh -X)
[04:54] <Ryan_Macy> Comrade-Badger install xf86-video-trident
[04:55] <Comrade-Badger> i can try
[04:55] <chronographer> subtitle: nautilus cannot handle multiple network locations
[04:55] <Blaqlight> chronographer, ohhh... I thought yo had physical access to the share..
[04:55] <DozedOnLinux> Comrade-Badger:the problem lies in xorg.conf configuration of the monitor supported resolutions, not the videocard
[04:55] <chronographer> I do
[04:55] <alraune> Ryan_Macy: hwd ?? aha;   sudo apt-get install hwinfo             ,then run...
[04:56] <chronographer> they are both next to me, desktop is one I'm on, ssh'ed into htpc
[04:56] <Blaqlight> chronographer, goto New > Connect to server
[04:56] <Comrade-Badger> Ryan_Macy, cant find the package
[04:56] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:shall i helpp you with xorg,conf ?
[04:56] <Blaqlight> File > Connect to server
[04:56] <Ryan_Macy> Comrade-Badger I think i got your fix
[04:56] <Ryan_Macy> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-442248.html
[04:56] <DozedOnLinux> alraune: i have that one too, as well as sysinfo
[04:56] <Ryan_Macy> look at tomlj's post
[04:56] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:57] <chronographer> the 'service type' drop down only shows 'custom location' ... no smb, nfs windows share or anything...
[04:57] <chronographer> seems to be the problem!
[04:57] <stepanstas> I am receiving a message "Grub Loading Stage 1.5 Read Error".  I did not get this error while installing Ubuntu, the system just started running slow.  After a reboot, it did some checks and stuff, and now its just this.  I assumed that reinstalling grub would fix this, but i just want to make sure. Would reinstalling grub fix it?
[04:57] <mike5805> hi all, can someone please help me change the port that apache user (change it from 80 to some other port)
[04:57] <DozedOnLinux> wow GRUB gone wild ;)
[04:57] <Ryan_Macy> lol i know
[04:57] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:57] <alraune> DozedOnLinux:? Ryan.. ??
[04:57] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, sure
[04:57] <dmi3on> can some one help pls
[04:58] <Blaqlight> chronographer, ok type dpkg -l | grep samba
[04:58] <Ryan_Macy> !grub | stepanstas
[04:58] <DozedOnLinux> alraune: yes ?
[04:58] <Blaqlight> chronographer, into a terminal
[04:58] <Ryan_Macy> alraune ?
[04:58] <HalinReno> hi all. Anyone know why I always have a busy pointer when over just the desktop?
[04:58] <chronographer>  samba, samba-common  , smbc
[04:58] <Ryan_Macy> HalinReno somethings loading?? lol
[04:59] <ForTiLLiaN> can anyone help with a phpmyadmin error "configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret).? I edited the /var/lib/phpmyadmin/blowfish_secret.inc.php to have a passphrase but no luck.
[04:59] <Blaqlight> ii  samba-common                               3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.4 < is what I get
[04:59] <chronographer> I already tried dpkg-recomfigure samba...
[04:59] <VipOrX> mike?
[04:59] <stepanstas> Ryan_Macy:  Would reinstalling grub fix my problem?
[04:59] <DozedOnLinux> HalinReno:  i get that sometimes in Firefox, eventhough the page seems to be completed loaded. doesnt seem to bother much of anything, as it eventually goes away
[04:59] <chronographer> yep, I get that and 2 others
[04:59] <Ryan_Macy> stepanstas i think so
[04:59] <mike5805> vp0rx?
[04:59] <jsooksom> :q
[04:59] <VipOrX> who asked about apache?
[04:59] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:paste your /var/log/xorg.0.log         , make a backup xorg : sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[04:59] <jsooksom> exit
[04:59] <chronographer> mebe I should remove samba...
[05:00] <jsooksom> q
[05:00] <jsooksom> exit
[05:00] <jsooksom> :q
[05:00] <FloodBot2> jsooksom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:00] <stepanstas> Ryan_Macy: Thanks
[05:00] <mike5805> i did vipor
[05:00] <Blaqlight> chronographer, 'sudo apt-get remove --purge samba
[05:00] <alraune> Ryan_Macy: what did you mean with hwd ?
[05:00] <mike5805> i need to change the port apache uses for webserver
[05:00] <HalinReno> well, I've killed every service I can and it doesn't go away. system monitor doesn't show any cpu usage
[05:00] <VipOrX> in /etc/apache2/
[05:00] <alraune> DozedOnLinux:? I answered to ryan... with hwinfo
[05:00] <VipOrX> edit ports.conf
[05:00] <Blaqlight> chronographer, then 'sudo apt-get build-dep samba && sudo apt-get install samba
[05:01] <VipOrX> change Listen 80 to whatever port
[05:01] <HalinReno> Ryan_Macy: well, I've killed every service I can and it doesn't go away. system monitor doesn't show any cpu usage
[05:01] <mike5805> ok thanks let me look @ the config
[05:01] <DozedOnLinux> alraune: he mentioned of Archlinux hwd
[05:01] <chronographer> ? why build-dep?
[05:01] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, hold on ive got my friend manning it hes going to aim it to me then ill pastbin
[05:01] <Blaqlight> maybe your missing a dependancy?
[05:01] <Ryan_Macy> HalinReno cat /dev/input/mouse0
[05:01] <DozedOnLinux> alraune: its not ubuntu so i wont install it. maybe it could work, but i dont want to find out
[05:01] <Comrade-Badger> !pastebin
[05:01] <Ryan_Macy> try that in terminal
[05:01] <chronographer> ok
[05:02] <Blaqlight> chronographer, remove it with the --purge switch first.
[05:02] <chronographer> I had samba and samba-common installed, is that a problem?
[05:02] <Ryan_Macy> alraune it should work fine xconf has nothing to do with ubuntu, it just automatically configures it
[05:02] <VipOrX> chronographer:  no
[05:02] <alraune> Ryan_Macy: #linux ...
[05:02] <Blaqlight> chronographer, I only have one (above) and it works perfectly
[05:02] <chronographer> yeah. I had both
[05:02] <DozedOnLinux> alraune:  oh, maybe i meant to say i have hwinfo and sysinfo both. each has something the other does, but same general info
[05:03] <Ryan_Macy> alraune http://user-contributions.org/projects/hwd/hwd.html
[05:03] <DozedOnLinux> alraune: doesnt*
[05:03] <fanfan> aaa
[05:03] <HalinReno> Ryan_Macy nothing happends. Cursor just goes to next line. no prompt unless ctrl+c
[05:03] <chronographer> Removing xubuntu-desktop
[05:03] <chronographer> damnit
[05:04] <Blaqlight> chronographer, best just to remove and reinstall, if that doesn't work, then it could be a firewall router/ ssh session.
[05:04] <DozedOnLinux> Ryan_Macy: not familiar with it. no diss meant, if it seemed like that. i been using only Ubuntu supported, so i am afraid to try anythign else :/
[05:04] <Blaqlight> chronographer, thats just a metapackage, there is nothing in it.
[05:04] <Ryan_Macy> DozedonLinux haha np man
[05:04] <DozedOnLinux> Ryan_Macy: ok
[05:04] <chronographer> ok!
[05:05] <Blaqlight> chronographer, also watch your language.
[05:05] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:terminal : gedit /var/log/xorg.0.log         .....
[05:05] <DozedOnLinux> Ryan_Macy:  i still have green at my feet :) need more time, MS corrupted me
[05:05] <alraune> !paste > Comrade-Badger:
[05:05] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, http://paste.ubuntu.com/35759/
[05:05] <Ryan_Macy> HalinReno Im not sure of whats happening show me your xorg.conf and xinitrc
[05:06] <m4xw311> How do I know if my Intel video driver is installed correctly?
[05:06] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, i got it i just needed time
[05:06] <chronographer> damnit isn't a cus sword!
[05:06] <Blaqlight> chronographer, it is in here.
[05:06] <Overand> I have a xubuntu machine - I moved the HD from one ma chine to another
[05:06] <chronographer> !
[05:06] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, thats xorg.conf
[05:06] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:terminal : gedit /var/log/xorg.0.log         .....that was xorg.conf
[05:06] <jp> Somos tambien GNU/Linux www.codigolibre.org
[05:07] <Overand> I can't get dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to output anything useful - it only writes a keyboard configuration to the xorg, and puts no entries for video or monitor
[05:07] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:paste your /var/log/xorg.0.log
[05:07] <alsryth> Hi all, I have an almost working wireless card (intel 3945 abg) on a recently installed hardy.  After following some forums threads which solved the issue for others, my still isn't working properly.  Would any of you experts help me troubleshoot the issue?
[05:07] <cgs_bob> hello all.  can anyone tell me how to find out which package belongs to a particular file?
[05:07] <bullgard4> [GNOME]Add to Panel > Hardware Sensors Monitor installs the 'sensors-applet 2.2.1'. Why have here been chosen two such totally different names for the same thing?
[05:07] <Blaqlight> alsryth, did you upgrade to hardy 8.04?
[05:07] <alraune> !wireless|alsryth
[05:07] <Ryan_Macy> alsryth i have the same card whats up
[05:08] <legend2440> Overand: try   gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[05:08] <Kernel> hello all. my desktop uses a wireless card and my network uses wpa psk and the desktop needs to have a static ip...i can *NOT* get a static ip to work when the wireless network is encrypted. how can i do this?
[05:08] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel check this link out
[05:08] <newInternalHD> I have Ubuntu 7.10 installed and just installed a 320 GB internal HD (I placed it inside the machine properly)  how do I mount it so that it acts as a second HD consistently??
[05:08] <newInternalHD> ?
[05:08] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, there is no such file
[05:09] <VipOrX> turn DHCP off on the wireless router, and set static IPs in ubuntu
[05:09] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: from what ive gathered this seems to be a issue with ubuntu.
[05:09] <wols> newInternalHD: have you partitioned it?
[05:09] <Blaqlight> VipOrX, who are you speaking too?
[05:09] <Kernel> i used to use mandriva linux and it worked perfect.
[05:09] <Ryan_Macy> VipOrX he does not have to
[05:09] <newInternalHD> its str8 out of the box
[05:09] <VipOrX> to Kernel
[05:10] <chronographer> so it looks different now, still getting an error, trying nautilus again
[05:10] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel did you set the gateway and all that stuff
[05:10] <wols> Kernel: edit your interfaces file in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:10] <Kernel> i need both dhcp and static ip's
[05:10] <Kernel> wols: doesnt work
[05:10] <wols> !doesn't work | Kernel
[05:10] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: yea i set broadcast,gateway,ip....everything
[05:10] <chronographer> no love...
[05:10] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log                              , you can paste command into terminal...  paste that file
[05:10] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel:  any errors or just no connect
[05:10] <legend2440> Comrade-Badger: its     gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log      capital X on Xorg
[05:10] <jp> Somos tambien GNU/Linux www.codigolibre.org
[05:10] <Kernel> wols: i set a static ip and wireless will not connect. i remove the encryption and it works.
[05:10] <Blaqlight> chronographer, still nothing?
[05:11] <wols> Kernel: cause you didn't set up encryption in there as well
[05:11] <chronographer> no good
[05:11] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: it says it connects...but no traffic. i cant ping the gateway or anywebsites
[05:11] <Blaqlight> jp, plese do not do that here.
[05:11] <Kernel> wols: i did
[05:11] <jp> ok
[05:11] <chronographer> I got some install errors, dpkg couldn't install some things
[05:11] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[05:11] <wols> Kernel: pastebin that interfaces file then
[05:11] <chronographer> looks loike broken scripts
[05:11] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel have you tried to powercycle your router
[05:11] <wols> !errors | chronographer
[05:11] <Kernel> wols: ubuntu has really crappy support for wpa. it works decent with wep...but wep is a joke i crack wep networks in less then 5 mis
[05:11] <Blaqlight> chronographer, use pastebin to show the errors.
[05:12] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: its not the router. the router works perfect
[05:12]  * Comrade-Badger sigh
[05:12] <wols> Kernel: ubuntu has the same wpa support like any other distrl. wpa-supplicant
[05:12] <Overand> Kernel: It works OK here.
[05:12] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel sometimes you need to reboot a router
[05:12] <Kernel> wols: i cant. when i edit the interfaces file i lose connection.
[05:12] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel pull the power cord, plug it back in then try it
[05:12] <Kernel> wols: well the utility to set up the wireless networking is not the same as in mandriva. in mandriva it works right away
[05:13] <VipOrX> wow, Blaqlight and Ryan_Macy, yall need to let someone finish a sentence before jumping ppl... cause you are directing him to the same fix I was about to give before you interuppted
[05:13] <Overand> legend2440: that seemed to at least let me test configurations that looked good, but it doesn't appear to have written out to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:13] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: yea i know. im a nerd....i run 3rd part firmware on the router....the router is working fine
[05:13] <Kernel> *party
[05:13] <wols> Kernel: that is just an UI. it works in mandriva the same way as in ubuntu
[05:13] <VipOrX> but if it helps your ego, go for it
[05:13] <chronographer> just gonna reboot and hope for the best... ( I know it won't change anything...) ok pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m5eefcc9
[05:13] <Blaqlight> VipOrX, its not a competition man.
[05:13] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel not trying to have a pissing contest
[05:14] <VipOrX> then you should have kept yout mouth shut
[05:14] <Ryan_Macy> just giving ideas
[05:14] <Blaqlight> wow, VipOrX you really need to calm down.
[05:14] <Kernel> wols: in theory yea...but im telling you....it is not working in ubuntu. in ubuntu i set the ip,gateway,netmask,and broadcast. i then set the key for the wireless network...and lo and behold it doesnt work
[05:14] <newInternalHD> can someone plz assist me in setting up my new hard drive???
[05:14] <VipOrX> using linux 10 yrs, I wont be dammit reprimanded
[05:14] <mzuverink> Any Sony Vaio users out ther, specifically laptop users?
[05:14] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log               >gimme url
[05:15] <VipOrX> so go ahead and finish what I was gonna tell him
[05:15] <ds[de]> mzuverink: yes
[05:15] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel whats your encryption type? do you have it set right?
[05:15] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: i think u mis interpreted me. i appreciate your help. but i know the router is fine. sorry if i sounded like a jerk
[05:15] <wols> Kernel: check your logs then
[05:15] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: wpa2 psk-aes
[05:15] <Blaqlight> VipOrX, suggestion, go sit in a corner and chill man. sheesh.
[05:15] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, computers so slow it freezes up when i try to copy
[05:15] <Kernel> wols: nothing shows up in dmesg except the norm
[05:15] <DozedOnLinux> VipOrX you had already been kicked out earlier
[05:15] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log               >gimme url
[05:15] <Comrade-Badger> ReverendMaynard is on the culprit machine
[05:15] <wols> Kernel: there are more logs than that. e.g. syslog
[05:15] <VipOrX> no, but if I did I have hunnnnndreds of ways of getting back in
[05:15] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel I can't think of anything honestly, maybe rebot the network with something like /etc/network.d reboot
[05:16] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:what a pc are you running ?
[05:16] <VipOrX> just drop it
[05:16] <Ryan_Macy> i dont know the command for it in ubuntu though
[05:16] <mzuverink> ds[de], do you have sound problems, specifically the inability to turn off the speakers on the laptop when using headphones?
[05:16] <bullgard4> [GNOME] Add to Panel > Hardware Sensors Monitor installs the 'sensors-applet 2.2.1'. Why has GNOME here chosen two such totally different names for the same thing?
[05:16] <Kernel> wols: yea i know. i did not see anything in them
[05:16] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: from googling around this is a known issue in ubuntu
[05:16] <legend2440> Overand: what video card?
[05:17] <Overand> legend2440: it's an i845, and the 'test' in that app works fine
[05:17] <Kernel> wpa does not work right
[05:17] <wols> Kernel: since you won't answer questions for information from you, I guess you are on your own. goodbye
[05:17] <Overand> Kernel: i gues youre right, i guess all of us using WPA with no problem are lying.
[05:17] <Ryan_Macy> do you have wpa_supplicant?
[05:17] <mzuverink> ds[de], I plug in headphones and the speakers still broadcast sound, it is terribly annoying and makes the laptop unusable in public
[05:17] <Kernel> wols: umm ok. thanks for ya help anyways :|
[05:17] <legend2440> Overand: is there a problem with resolution or something?
[05:17] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: yea
[05:18] <ds[de]> mzuverink: I never checked with headphones, give me a second ;-)
[05:18] <Kernel> Overand: how exactly did you manager to get your wpa working with static ips? id love to hear
[05:18] <Comrade-Badger> ReverendMaynard, is my accomplice
[05:18] <scurker> I have been trying to get my nvidia drivers setup in gutsy with quite a few issues and was wondering if I could get some help.
[05:18] <wols> !ask | scurker
[05:18] <Kernel> i can get wpa working with dhcp no issues...but i need a static ip on this machine using wpa.
[05:18] <larson9999> trying to install the wacom tablet reminds me of the good old days trying to install my printer, gameport joystick and win modem
[05:19] <ds[de]> mzuverink: works fine
[05:19] <mzuverink> ds[de], what model?
[05:19] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, its an old gatway
[05:19] <wols> alraune: finally do what alraune told you if you want help
[05:19] <ds[de]> mzuverink: vgn-s5m
[05:19] <Overand> legend2440: it's actually working now.
[05:19] <mzuverink> ds I have a VGN-NR385E
[05:19] <Overand> legend2440: that app needed me to properly 'log off'  first, etc - i think i may haev just killed the x session the first time
[05:19] <legend2440> Overand: ok
[05:20] <chronographer> Blaqlight: samba error message http://pastebin.com/mc1e2e4e
[05:20] <Kernel> *sigh* i was hoping someone would actually know about this issue and a work around :(
[05:20] <Overand> legend2440: It's all set - but the issue was that I had a blank xorg conf, and yeah - it was using regular framebuffer i htink, and it was being nasty about letting change resolutions- but it's set now
[05:20] <scurker> It seems I'm to the point where the drivers show up as enabled and in use in the restricted driver manager, yet when I try to use "nvidia-settings" it tells me that the drivers are not enabled in my xorg.conf, even though its pointing to "nvidia" as the driver
[05:20] <mzuverink> ds[de], VGN-NR385E
[05:20] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, i assume you persuing ReverendMaynards link
[05:20] <ds[de]> mzuverink: looks fine, sadly I don't know anything about your issue :(
[05:20] <ds[de]> mzuverink: my sound worked OOTB and I didn't have to screw around with any cfgs
[05:21] <wype> Hey, I just have a quick question, is it possible to mount a dvd, well, making it seem like the dvd is named something else? Or will I have to reburn it lol
[05:21] <Kernel> i guess this is just one of the areas that linux is still lacking with
[05:21] <mzuverink> ds[de], its terribly annoying and nothing about it on google
[05:21] <Kernel> well not linux...ubuntu.
[05:21] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log            , ?Reverend? havent read
[05:22] <wols> Comrade-Badger: the reverend is a very quiet fellow. he doesn't say anything
[05:22] <mzuverink> ds[de], thanks, eventually someone out there will know the answer, I have faith, it is a very popular laptop
[05:22] <willfrand> hey
[05:22] <ds[de]> mzuverink: I hope so, sorry I can't help you here
[05:22] <Overand> here's a question - say i'm SSHed into a machine, and I want to start an X app that will run *on the machine* - as if a person sitting at it had clicked it.  Can I do that?
[05:22] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel I was about to say, it works in arch ;)
[05:22] <chronographer> can anyone help fix this samba error message http://pastebin.com/mc1e2e4e
[05:22] <Dr_willis_> wype,  named? what program is using the 'name' (label?) of a dvd disk?
[05:22] <wols> Overand: yes. ssh -X
[05:22] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: yea it worked perfect in mandriva linux also.
[05:23] <Blaqlight> chronographer, ok Im looking sorry
[05:23] <chronographer> at theremote machine Overand?
[05:23] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel just play with it, you'll fix it eventually
[05:23] <VipOrX> wols, he means make the X app open on the machine he is SSHed into, not remote X
[05:23] <wols> chronographer: is this mountpoint in your fstab?
[05:23] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: nah. i spent many hours fiddling about 2-3 weeks ago....with no luck
[05:24] <chronographer> no
[05:24] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: http://pastebin.com/f24ae68ae
[05:24] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel are you using it for a server or something?
[05:24] <chronographer> it doesn't nee dto be
[05:24] <Comrade-Badger> there he is alraune
[05:24] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: well i need ports to be open to this computer
[05:24] <wols> chronographer: then you lack various options in the mount command
[05:24] <chronographer> oh really?
[05:24] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: and i cant set the dhcp to assign by mac adress
[05:24] <wols> chronographer: you can do that too. set the DISPLAY env var properly
[05:24] <Ryan_Macy> kernel why not just open the ports on the router and forward the ports to your dhcp address
[05:25] <wols> actually using the X app then is kinda hard tho. and you have to deal with xauth of course
[05:25] <Ryan_Macy> all the new routers forward to hostnames and not dhcps
[05:25] <chronographer> does 'smbmount' do things differently?
[05:25] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: thats what i have been doing ...but that way will no longer work
[05:25] <Overand> legend2440: New weirdness - the xubungu login sccreen (GDM i believe) is displaying at the correct resolution, BUT it looks likwe it's 'trying' to display the wrong rez - the position of hte login window is too far down and right, and the logout buttons are 'off of hte bottom' - but its not a CRT 'position' thing
[05:25] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel idk man Gl with it
[05:25] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[05:26] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: thanks anyways...
[05:26] <qr__> Overand: you can use screen to do it. open a screen session in a terminal on the remote machine (you need to physically go there and do this step) you can then ssh in and connect to the screen session. any x apps started from within the screen session will show up on the remote machine as long as you keep the original terminal window you started screen from open
[05:26] <wols> ReverendMaynard: what resolution do you want?
[05:26] <Overand> qr__: oh... good idea!
[05:26] <SNuxoll> qr__: no, screen automatically detaches when you close a terminal
[05:26] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[05:26] <ReverendMaynard> wols: at least 1024x768
[05:26] <qr__> SNuxoll: that's why I said don't close the terminal...
[05:27] <wype> Hey, I just have a quick question, is it possible to mount a DVD, well, making it seem like the DVD is named something else? Or will I have to re burn it
[05:27] <wols> ReverendMaynard: (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (insufficient memory for mode)
[05:27] <SNuxoll> qr__: but the app will still be running if you close the terminal, BECAUSE screen detaches
[05:27] <Kernel> Overand: so do you actually know how to set up wpa with a static ip?
[05:27] <wols> SNuxoll: no
[05:27] <Kernel> or where you actually lying ;-o....im just playing around here
[05:27] <qr__> SNuxoll: you need the screen session to be owned by a terminal that is owned by the local xserver in order to be able to run x applications on the remote machine through it
[05:27] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : the log is saying the video card has too less memory for a 1024X768 resolution, max vert frequenz is 70Hz, would be enough
[05:28] <Blaqlight> chronographer, your problem is beyond my knowledge, sorry :(
[05:28] <usamahashimi> APT is giving this error: "The package ooobasis3.0-onlineupdate needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it"
[05:28] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, really lol! so its impossible to get that res?
[05:28] <SNuxoll> qr__: ah, would make sense, I've never used screen with X apps
[05:28] <SNuxoll> qr__: no point in it...
[05:28] <chronographer> ok. np Blaqlight, thanks anyway
[05:28] <wols> ReverendMaynard: how much memory on the trident card?
[05:28] <chronographer> smbmount
[05:28] <chronographer> oops
[05:28] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, he was running it in windows at 1024x768
[05:28] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : if you 've chosen the right driver for the card, you can give it a try, the doesn't have to be right
[05:28] <qr__> SNuxoll: except in the situation which I just described, in which case it is invaluable.
[05:28] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[05:29] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : if you 've chosen the right driver for the card, you can give it a try, the log doesn't have to be right
[05:29] <SNuxoll> qr__: eh, I just use VNC
[05:29] <SNuxoll> qr__: or FreeNX
[05:29] <ReverendMaynard> wols: it was just something i found in a box in the attic. all i know is that its a standard vga card so im guessing at least 8mb
[05:29] <alraune> dmi3on: see #grub also
[05:29] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, well thats the next question theres nothing to chose in xserver-xorg
[05:29] <Blaqlight> dmi3on, have you tried to reinstall grub?
[05:29] <qr__> SNuxoll: what about running media? VNC doesn't really work with fullscreen video.
[05:29] <SNuxoll> qr__: heh, this is true
[05:29] <wols> ReverendMaynard: a standard vga card has 256kB and it can't do 1024x768...
[05:30] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:did you backup your xorg,conf ?
[05:30] <wols> Comrade-Badger: you'd have to edit xorg.conf manually
[05:30] <ReverendMaynard> wols: well i find it funny that it can go 1024x768 in windows though....
[05:30] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, i didnt ReverendMaynard is on the machine speak with him im just an intermediary
[05:30] <alraune> wols: is waht i know, so probably wrong trident-driver (what I don't know)
[05:30] <Comrade-Badger> wols i know , buth theres nothing in there about it
[05:31] <wols> ReverendMaynard: ok, that means it has enough memory, 2MB or more. it's entirely possible that X doesn't see the full memory of the card properly for example
[05:31] <Ryan_Macy> alraune ubuntu uses the old trident driver i think
[05:31] <wols> or that it can only do it in 8 or 16 but not 24/32 bit which is default for X
[05:31] <wols> Comrade-Badger: yes, that's why YOU have to write it in there :)
[05:32] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:sudo  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[05:32] <Comrade-Badger> wol ok ReverendMaynard has it in paste bin wheres the line go?
[05:32] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:have you got a live cd handy ?
[05:32] <wols> alraune: just tell me what trident drivers are there except the one he's using?
[05:32] <ReverendMaynard> wols: true, it goes to low color settings in windows in order for 1024 to work
[05:32] <alraune> wols:  what I don't know...
[05:33] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: yeah i do
[05:33] <legend2440> Overand: not sure but maybe section called   GDM uses a different Resolution than my Desktop  will help    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#GDM%20uses%20a%20different%20Resolution%20than%20my%20Desktop
[05:33] <chronographer> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.  I got this natilus error, can I fix it?
[05:33] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:backed up xorg.conf ?
[05:33] <ReverendMaynard> let me do that quick alraune
[05:33] <Blaqlight> chronographer, I get that all the time, its not affecting my system any.
[05:34] <Blaqlight> chronographer, including my samba shares..
[05:34] <chronographer> its a pain...
[05:34] <Ryan_Macy> chronographer this is a guess but is your account in the correct groups?
[05:34] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: ok backed up
[05:35] <chronographer> well its all default so I guess so
[05:35] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:few minutes getting the new one, will look it up now
[05:35] <Blaqlight> chronographer, goto System > Admininstration > users and groups and see what your user belongs too.
[05:36] <chronographer> alex adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin mythtv sambashare
[05:36] <Ryan_Macy> chronographer system>admin>users and groups> unlock and add your user to the correct group
[05:36] <Blaqlight> Ryan_Macy, it seems he's in all the right groups though..
[05:36] <chronographer> which group? ( i am on xfce, i need command line tools i think!)
[05:37] <Ryan_Macy> hmm
[05:37] <ice--man> hello
[05:37] <ice--man> how can i change my terminal font size on ==> (Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[05:38] <Cdilling> has anyone used Kismet?
[05:38] <Ryan_Macy> chronographer im not too sure, maybe it's because you're using natilus on xfce but I doubt it, does thunar work fine?
[05:38] <Blaqlight> nautilus will work in xfce just fine if its installed, you should be using thunar though..
[05:38] <Ryan_Macy> Are you load the gnome helpers? it should be under session in the control menu
[05:38] <Ryan_Macy> loading*
[05:39] <Cdilling> anyone ever used kismet?
[05:39] <ice--man> how can i change my terminal font size on ==> (Ctrl+Alt+F1)?  now idea? :-?
[05:39] <chronographer> maybe I'l just reinstall gnome again, that might fix it
[05:40] <Blaqlight> ice--man, Im not sure you can change the font size within the framebuffer...
[05:40] <daikee> i recently installed some printer drivers.  is there a way to get back to original drivers as if I did a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04?
[05:40] <chronographer> thunar doesn't seem to have network folders tools
[05:40] <ice--man> hum, i don't know
[05:41] <daikee> anybody?
[05:41] <Flynsarmy> I just got an ide to sata converter. Are you able to plug IDE connectors into EIDE slots?
[05:41] <Blaqlight> chronographer, if your going to do that  check out ubottu's PM
[05:41] <Blaqlight> !puregnome | chronographer
[05:42] <Blaqlight> oops
[05:42] <legend2440> ice--man: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122936
[05:42] <Flynsarmy> Or is there a better channel i could ask this question?
[05:43] <chronographer> i dont know flyn
[05:43] <Blaqlight> legend2440, does that mean you can?
[05:44] <ice--man> legend2440: tnx :)
[05:44] <legend2440> Blaqlight: yes i think so  put    vga=791 in grub like this     kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash vga=771
[05:44] <chronographer> gonna do a reinstall! try mythbuntu again! Thanks for your help... have a good one
[05:44] <Cdilling> has anyone used kismet with ubuntu
[05:45] <legend2440> Blaqlight: yes i think so  put    vga=771 in grub like this     kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash vga=771
[05:45] <Blaqlight> ahh ok
[05:45] <Blaqlight> see Im not the only one that thought otherwise :D
[05:46] <bitsbam> lo there all
[05:47] <bitsbam> i have some nfs shares that other computers on the lan mount at boot from fstab, now these have file managers that sometimes hang if one of the dirves cannot be accessed
[05:47] <bitsbam> is there a way to mount and unmount nfs shares on the fly?
[05:48] <ReverendMaynard> where did alraune go?
[05:48] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:few minutes getting the new one, will look it up now :http://pastebin.com/m7dc4ba5d
[05:49] <Flynsarmy> anyone know if EIDE slots are compatable with IDE cables?
[05:49] <ForTiLLiaN> yes, they are
[05:49] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf                delete the old, put in pastebin , save n close, restart x
[05:50] <bullgard4> [GNOME] Add to Panel > Hardware Sensors Monitor installiert 'sensors-applet 2.2.1'. Warum hat GNOME hier 2 total verschiedene Namen  für dieselbe Sache gewählt?
[05:50] <bullgard4> [GNOME] Add to Panel > Hardware Sensors Monitor installs the 'sensors-applet 2.2.1'. Why has GNOME here chosen two such totally different names for the same thing?
[05:50] <Flynsarmy> ForTiLLiaN, Both 40pins right? (EIDE slots and ide connector)
[05:50] <ForTiLLiaN> yep yep
[05:50] <Flynsarmy> ForTiLLiaN, Thanks
[05:50] <ForTiLLiaN> np
[05:50] <grumpy> I want a wireless battery operated printer to take with me to print out information for customers. Is there such a thing for Ubuntu?
[05:50] <Blaqlight> bullgard4, one is the gui the other is the actuall gnome panel applet.
[05:50] <yoyoman37> hello.  i dl ubuntu 8.04.1 and boot and it takes too much screen (only part of desktop fits on my monitor)
[05:51] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  why would that be 'ubuntu' specific? there are battery powered printers.
[05:51] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  most are photo printers from what ive seen however. Not for docs.
[05:51] <grumpy> dr_willis_, ubuntu specific because i want to be sure it is fully supported by ubuntu
[05:51] <yoyoman37> when I try to adjust resolution, my display starts flipping badly.  Is there a way at boot to prevent it from using any video drivers other than some standard driver?
[05:51] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  and the ones i saw used that pict-bridge/Bluetooth stuff.. again. these were Photo printers.
[05:52] <alraune> yoyoman37: sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk , the run it, choose your monitor, change resolution
[05:52] <Smegzor> I have a network card that is detected, but I get no lights and no network.  lspci sees it as a  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) and it is listed by ifconfig.  How can I make it work in Ubuntu?
[05:52] <grumpy> dr_willis, if the picture ones can handle black and white too then I'm ok with them.
[05:52] <alraune> yoyoman37: sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk , then run it, choose your monitor, change resolution
[05:52] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  find a printer ya like  i guess. check cups.org and the ubuntu forums to see how well supported it  is i guess.
[05:52] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: just put it on, restarting x now
[05:52] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  i recall years ago a Laptop With a Printer Built in. :)
[05:53] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:/etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:53] <grumpy> dr_willis_, I don't trust those lists of supported printers.  The lists are just marketing hype unfortunately.
[05:53] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:53] <bobertdos> Smegzor: Has the card worked previously?
[05:53] <Smegzor> never
[05:53] <alraune> Smezgor: ifup eth0
[05:54] <Blaqlight> Dr_willis_, yah me too, it was a piece of junk. and nobody bought it.
[05:54] <bobertdos> Smegzor: and by that I mean, in Windows?
[05:54] <grumpy> dr_willis_ I really want to see a review of a laptop printer, battery operated, by an ubuntu magazine
[05:54] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  guess best thing to do then is make sure whever ya get the printer from has a good return policy.
[05:54] <Smegzor> it runs great in XP
[05:54] <bullgard4> Blaqlight: What do you mean by "the GUI" here? (I know the term 'GUI' as a very general word.)
[05:55] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  ive only seen like 2 or 3 battery piowered printers and they were mainly for 3x5 photos and so forth. But ive not looked lately
[05:55] <alraune> Smezgor: ifup eth0   ,install network applet for a GUI
[05:55] <Blaqlight> hardware sensors is in the gnome menus... the applet is in the panel.
[05:55] <bobertdos> Smegzor: okay then.........You said it was listed under ifconfig, so do you get an IP address or not?
[05:55] <Smegzor> alraune: its eth1.  i'm using my on board lan at the moment which has other problems.
[05:55] <Blaqlight> hence both separate.
[05:55] <alraune> GUI= graphical user Interface
[05:55] <grumpy> dr_willis_ Actually I've already looked at costco thinking I'd try their printers and possibly return them. Unfortunately they have no battery powered laptops.
[05:55] <alraune> Smezgor: ifup eth1   ,install network applet for a GUI
[05:56] <Dr_willis_> GUI = what happens to your candy bar in the sun.
[05:56] <Smegzor> alraune: running that command on eth1, it says ignoring unknown interface
[05:56] <alraune> lol
[05:56] <slightglitch> Okay, need some help with this one as I've never seen it so anything would be appreciated- http://pastebin.com/m61bbefb4
[05:56] <Blaqlight> Dr_willis_, indeed
[05:56] <Smegzor> bobertdos: I can give it an ip address, I just can't get any traffic through it
[05:57] <Cdilling> so i am new to XChat is there a different room to ask about kismet?
[05:57] <Cdilling> just need to figure out how to config it..
[05:57] <Blaqlight> Cdilling, right click in this window > window > channel list.
[05:58] <alraune> Cdilling: irc related #freenode is nice
[05:58] <Smegzor> i would just use my onboard gigabit lan, but for some reason it slows down to <5k/sec after so many hours use.
[05:58] <Smegzor> rebooting fixes it, but thats the windows way :P
[05:58] <alraune> Cdilling:       /list                      in xchat's writers bar
[05:59] <Blaqlight> alraune, that would make xchat lag so bad and is quite usless, use the suggestion I gave... it presents it in a GUI.
[05:59] <marx2k> k9copy++
[05:59] <alraune> ...like candy
[06:00] <Blaqlight> alraune, type /list into xchats bar, you'll see what I mean :P
[06:00] <Smegzor> back in a bit.  I'm going to try google again and swap networks.  it'll knock me off the net until I swap back :(
[06:01] <Blaqlight> also channel list in xchat allows you to search and other nice things.
[06:01] <Cybane> Anyone know the name of the Window Manager written in Ruby?
[06:02] <Blaqlight> well either way, Im outtie like corduroys.
[06:02] <Ryan_Macy> Kahakai Window Manager
[06:02] <Ryan_Macy> Cybane
[06:03] <alraune> Blaqlight: am pidgin infected
[06:03] <Cybane> I thought it started with a S
[06:04] <alraune>  Blaqlight:could you pm  Cdilling to tell how to connect to  #kismet on irc.freenode.net in xchat ?
[06:05] <Gyro54> Can anyone help with a broken upgrade to 8.04
[06:06] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: couldn't open Display ?? stars and stripes on the screen ? live cd...
[06:06] <backenfutter> Gyro54, what broke?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis_> alraune,  try /join #CHANNELNAME
[06:06] <Gyro54> I had a lock up when the upgrade was nearly finished and it now will not start with the GUI
[06:06] <Dr_Willis_> alraune,  you are on freenode now. :)
[06:06] <Gyro54> I can get to the terminal
[06:06] <backenfutter> Gyro54, have you tried finishing the upgrde from tty1?
[06:06] <Bagualas> hello! I upgraded Flash, to version 10, when I open some sites it closes firefox, helpppp please
[06:07] <alraune> Dr_Willis_: prob is its not on ubuntu.com, so on another server
[06:07] <Gyro54> backenfutter: How can I do that
[06:07] <Dr_Willis_> alraune,  if its on freenode. it should be accessable from any of the 'freenode' servers.
[06:08] <backenfutter> well, when in tty1 (STRG+ALT+F1) just do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:08] <Gyro54> backenfutter: I will give it a try. Thanks
[06:08] <backenfutter> Gyro54, np
[06:09] <nickrud> Gyro54 also do sudo apt-get -f install , then a second dist-upgrade
[06:09] <kiz0ph> how can i get the mp4 driver on ubuntu??
[06:10] <Gyro54> nickrud: Thanks
[06:10] <Dr_Willis_> mp4 driver? You mean codec?
[06:10] <Burky> yay
[06:10] <Burky> i always wanted to find an ubuntu chat
[06:10] <Gyro54> This is the best place for info.   I kinda cracked the prob.
[06:14] <Scorp_> wanted to share How !!!
[06:14] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:witing for reverend, wondering (but he has a live cd, too) ;where are you located ?
[06:14] <backenfutter> Burky, epends what you need help on..
[06:14] <DozedOnLinux> Scorp_: what was the initial issue ?
[06:14] <Burky> basic irc commands in general
[06:14] <Comrade-Badger> located like geographically?
[06:14] <Burky> i haven been on the irc for awhile i forgot all the commands
[06:14] <backenfutter> Burky, check freenode.net
[06:14] <Scorp_> DozedOnLinux: The router page wasnt opening on ubuntu.. Was working everywhere else..
[06:14] <Burky> eh worth a shot
[06:14] <Burky> thanks
[06:14] <Drezard> how do i set up what my dns servers are on linux?
[06:14] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, upstate new york USA
[06:14] <DozedOnLinux> Scorp_: the web interface for your router ?
[06:14] <kiz0ph> I connect my mp4 to the computer. But it doesn't work.
[06:15] <visf> hi anybody know where is a good place to learn openoffice or is there a good book to recommend?
[06:15] <LSD|Ninja> Drezard: In the network panel under System -> Administration
[06:15] <DozedOnLinux> AllEars
[06:15] <Scorp_> DozedOnLinux: yeah... <IP_ADDRESS> thing... it was not being accessed by ubuntu initially... was working with Vista, Xp and even OpenSUSE
[06:15] <Druui> <IP_ADDRESS> is your router right?
[06:16] <LogicalDash> F-spot opens every time I insert an SD-card. How do I make it stop doing that?
[06:16] <Drezard> im using ubuntu server????
[06:16] <Druui> there is a way
[06:16] <Druui> places->computer
[06:16] <CydeWeys> What's the name of the program to download images off a digital camera with?
[06:16] <Drezard> so text-based cli only.... setting up what my dns servers are :P
[06:16] <Comrade-Badger> alraune,  you?
[06:16] <LogicalDash> CydeWeys: F-Spot
[06:16] <Druui> then go to edit->perefence. there may be option there to stop f-spot doing
[06:16] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: im here, it works in 800x600 which is kinda tollerable
[06:16] <Scorp_> DozedOnLinux: Actually, to be true, its only a half way breakthrough.. the page is loading now, using Konqueror.. But not rendering perfectly...
[06:17] <nickrud> LogicalDash prefs in the file manager, check the media tab
[06:17] <Jordan_U> LogicalDash: System -> Preferences -> Removable Devices IIRC
[06:17] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, looks like germany
[06:17] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:so even in the bin theres better hardware, i assume... youre not kinda hunter&collecter ?|yep germ
[06:17] <LogicalDash> Jordan_U, thanks, that seems to be it
[06:17] <Druui> two way, jordan. :)
[06:17] <DozedOnLinux> Scorp_: progress is good
[06:17] <Druui> i guess i use places->computer->edit->preference->media.
[06:18] <Scorp_> DozedOnLinux: yeah.. true..!!
[06:18] <Druui> long way. heh
[06:18] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, au contrare theres got to be more but oddly enough this is the only one with a svideo out
[06:18] <CydeWeys> LogicalDash: Isn't there another one?  F-Spot doesn't seem to have an option to remove images automatically post-import?
[06:18] <CydeWeys> I recall using one that did that, I just don't remember the name.
[06:18] <CydeWeys> Maybe it's a KDE program?
[06:18] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: good to hear not crashed, you could(do another backup before) experiment with the default depth for higer res, but 256 colours...
[06:19] <LogicalDash> CydeWeys: Well, if you go into Synaptic, click Search, and choose to search through Description and Name, you'll probably find something
[06:19] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, hes back
[06:19] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:were talking...
[06:19] <Comrade-Badger> ah
[06:19] <Burky> wtf why is my e-mail not valid
[06:19] <Comrade-Badger> back to murk lore
[06:19] <CydeWeys> LogicalDash: Ahah, Digikam is what I was thinking of.  It's a very good program.
[06:20] <DozedOnLinux> Burky: email ? not valid ? you trying to register a name here?
[06:20] <Burky> yes
[06:20] <grumpy> HP is lame: "HP does not provide telephone support for Linux printing." and if you want a driver they tell you to visit a non hp website...
[06:20] <DozedOnLinux> Burky: did you read the email they sent you ?
[06:21] <Burky> um it sent me an e-mail
[06:21] <LogicalDash> grumpy: doesn't Ubuntu come with HP drivers preinstalled?
[06:21] <Burky> it told me my e-mail wasnt valid
[06:21] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: how do i change the color depth in ubuntu? is it in a menu or is it done by hand in vi or a standard editor?
[06:21] <DozedOnLinux> Burky: well there is instrictions on what you need to do to activate it
[06:21] <Burky> grr dont i just need the /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>  command?
[06:22] <grumpy> LogicalDash, Possibly, I don't know. I'm trying to find a printer and heard HP was great. However they seem to think Linux is not worth handling on their website or phone support.
[06:22] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup2
[06:22] <DozedOnLinux> Burky: easiest way to put it, > /msg NickServ help
[06:22] <DozedOnLinux> !register
[06:22] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: sudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:22] <Burky> thanks
[06:22] <DozedOnLinux> Burky: if you need help other than that, there is a channel here that has Freenode staff, i cant remember which though
[06:23] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: whenever x crashes at bootup,  you can cp it back with the live cd
[06:23] <Burky> isnt there a help channel with a bunch of bots that know the codes?
[06:23] <Burky> *commands
[06:23] <DozedOnLinux> Burky: i can message you a channel, but i am not sure it is correct
[06:23] <alraune> !brain
[06:23] <Burky> do it
[06:24] <DozedOnLinux> alraune: what channel can Burky go to where Mod/Ops sit ? or can help him with freenode reg and activation
[06:24] <Burky> got it nvm
[06:24] <Burky> haha
[06:25] <Burky> thanks
[06:25] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: backed up
[06:25] <DozedOnLinux> ok
[06:25] <alraune> rtfm, smile
[06:26] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: sudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:26] <zh> join #ubuntu-cn
[06:26] <oghmarela> i have a question about mksquashfs on alive usb,can anyone help
[06:26] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: got it
[06:26] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: look for section screen,  ut the two 16  to 8
[06:26] <alraune> put
[06:27] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: got it
[06:27] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: save, close  , /etc/init.d/gdm restart (maybe write down cp- command for live before)
[06:27] <xelapond> Hey everyone
[06:27] <xelapond> apt is messing up
[06:28] <xelapond> I tried to install emacs and it threw some errors
[06:28] <qinjuehang> xelapond: What were the erorrs?
[06:28] <xelapond> and now any time I try and install a program it tries to install emacs
[06:28] <xelapond> Byte Compilation failed
[06:28] <DozedOnLinux> hate that. go to close IM, same time someone messages you and end up closing Ubuntu
[06:28] <xelapond> I compiled emacs, so that is irrelevent
[06:29] <xelapond> but I need fireof and zsh, but it tried to isntall emacs and fails
[06:29] <Detrix> !dialup
[06:29] <juannicolas> Hi, can someone give me an ide on how to do a internet fail over with 2 isp ?
[06:29] <creeed> u
[06:29] <LogicalDash> juannicolas, what are you talking about?
[06:29] <alraune>  xelapond: sudo apt-get remove emacs && sudo apt-get clean
[06:29] <xelapond> alraune: ok, Ill try that
[06:30] <juannicolas> I need a machine who can work as a internet route and also will have 2 ISP and do a failover, if one isp is down the machine will use the other gateway and viceversa
[06:30] <Quenyar> Video Display problems with 8.04 LTS on antideluvian x86 box with Matrox video card. When I scroll in the browser window, this happens: http://goomba.com/www2/hwm/Screenshot.png - this was the Ubuntu welcome screen. I have tried several different resolutions and other video settings, but it just doesn't paint the screen properly. HELP
[06:30] <oghmarela> bye all
[06:31] <xelapond> alraune: same errors
[06:31] <juannicolas> LogicalDash  did you read me?
[06:32] <LogicalDash> juannicolas: I read you, I'm sorry but I can't help
[06:32] <juannicolas> ok thx
[06:32] <xelapond> alraune: any ideas?
[06:32] <juannicolas> !failover
[06:32] <johnny_> Hello guys, I have a question. Do all you Ubuntu users think it's really necessary to have a firewall under Ubuntu?
[06:32] <xelapond> 11111\
[06:33] <xelapond> sry, cat on keyboard
[06:33] <alraune>  xelapond: sudo apt-get remove --purge emacs                   , whatch up if apt tells you will remove half of your software (better cancel than)
[06:33] <Quenyar> johnny - if you don't have a firewall, you;re inviting someone to hack your system and make it part of their bot net
[06:34] <iratsu> hmm i deleted a partition but it still shows up in /dev... is there some way i can "update" /dev?
[06:34] <DozedOnLinux> !firewall
[06:34] <alraune> johnny_:yup
[06:34] <DozedOnLinux> !virus | johnny_
[06:34] <xelapond> alraune: same errors
[06:34] <johnny_> Yeah I understand that, but I thought Linux was extremely secure, far more than any other operating system?
[06:34] <Josh_1203> Can anyone help me share files from Windows to Ubuntu?
[06:34] <xelapond> alraune: it tries to byte compile the addon packages
[06:35] <DozedOnLinux> !smb
[06:35] <LogicalDash> johnny_: Linux sure is secure, but if you use it to send data through an insecure route, then your data is insecure
[06:35] <Josh_1203> k thanks
[06:35] <alraune> johnny_:if you diary is written on waterproof paper, you wouldn't have open, or ?  its easy to tackle even a secure open system, e.g. crash it
[06:35] <DozedOnLinux> josh thank Ubottu :P
[06:36] <Quenyar> johnny, lots of built in security, makes it more of a challenger than Windows, but some people enjoy a challenge - any system can be hacked.  And because your Linux system is more capable, it is a bigger prize.
[06:36] <slightglitch> Has anyone seen this error by chance, and can you tell me what might cause it? http://pastebin.com/m61bbefb4
[06:37] <johnny_> Quenyar: So I'm guessing your suggesting I keep Firestarter?
[06:37] <DozedOnLinux> Quenyar: no system in the world is 100% secure, unless you never use it, even then the ants will take i over and make happy times
[06:37] <bluekb> Hi.  I just got a bluetooth headset; I am having trouble figuring how to get sound out of it though (music, anything).  I read http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio and can't find the device via hcitool.   `hcitool scan` returns "Device is not available: No such device"
[06:38] <Quenyar> firewall is like seatbelt, won't prevent the inevitable, but I wear my seatbelt anyway
[06:38] <DozedOnLinux> bluekb: do youhappen to have a laptop ?
[06:38] <bluekb> DozedOnLinux, not yet.  I am trying this on my desktop.
[06:38] <bluekb> DozedOnLinux, This is a usb bluetooth dongle
[06:38] <alraune> xelapond:was it a tarball or a deb from repo ?
[06:39] <DozedOnLinux> bluekb: let me see if i can recall the issue
[06:39] <xelapond> alraune: I ran sudo apt-get install emacs
[06:39] <Rolcol> Quick question: if you were to use dd to fill up a partition (hda1) with zeros, would it still be formatted?
[06:39] <Josh_1203> Does anyone know if my main processor is Windows but I'm using Ubuntu as a virtual machine if Samba will work, and if so where I should download Samba to?
[06:39] <alraune> xelapond:try this again ?
[06:39] <eje1> Rolcol: depends how you do it, if you fill up a file yes, if you write to raw partition, no
[06:39] <jemtv> can anyone help my with mythbuntu
[06:39] <xelapond> alraune: try what again?
[06:39] <eje1> Josh_1203: !samba
[06:40] <johnny_> Quenyar: That's a good way to look at it. Thanks for the info :)
[06:40] <Josh_1203> @samba
[06:40] <DozedOnLinux> bluekb: you just install it now ? or have you had it for a while ?
[06:40] <Josh_1203> !sama
[06:40] <Josh_1203> !samba
[06:40] <eje1> !samba | Josh_1203
[06:40] <alraune> xelapond:sudo apt-get install emacs
[06:40] <Rolcol> eje1: would the paritition still exist without being formatted though?
[06:40] <xelapond> alraune: ok, just a sec
[06:40] <Quenyar> still trying to figure out how to fix the screen display problem I am having - doesn't scroll properly - when you scroll down, say, a browser window, it paints the screen in pieces all over the place, any suggestions?
[06:40] <Rolcol> *partition
[06:40] <eje1> Rolcol: not if you overwrite partition table
[06:40] <eje1> Rolcol: but... this is not perfect way to destroy data if that is what you want
[06:40] <Rolcol> I don't mean the whole disk, sda.  I mean a partition like sda2
[06:41] <DozedOnLinux> Rolcol, cause you never formatted it. a partition is a set size, ready for formatting, not that it is active or can be used till it is formatted for what it will be used for
[06:41] <xelapond> alraune: same errors
[06:41] <eje1> Rolcol: dd if=/dev/zero of /dev/sda2 should preserve partition while filling it with zeroes
[06:41] <alraune> Quenyar: what graphics card ?
[06:41] <DozedOnLinux> good one eje1
[06:41] <eje1> missed and = there
[06:41] <eje1> an
[06:42] <alraune> xelapond:no missing dependencies/Pakets ? saw !compile ?
[06:42] <alraune> !compile
[06:42] <Detrix> whats the risk of repartioning a window harddrive?
[06:42] <linuxdominator> Quenyar: you could try disabling compiz...
[06:42] <Rolcol> eje1: so the partition itself exists but it would be unformatted, yes?
[06:42] <Quenyar> alraune graphics card is a real dinosaur - a Matrix VGA card
[06:42] <linuxdominator> Detrix: you will lose all data
[06:42] <linuxdominator> Rolcol: yes
[06:42] <DozedOnLinux> Detrixl the data that is on it will be lost
[06:43] <linuxdominator> Rolcol: if you do the command i said
[06:43] <Quenyar> linuxdominator OK, I'll bit, what is it and how would I disable it?
[06:43]  * linuxdominator = eje1
[06:43] <xelapond> alraune: it says its a bug in emacs
[06:43] <Jason2gs> Hi guys. Can someone tell me if there's a way to set a blank user/root password?
[06:43] <Detrix> I thought there were programs that could repartion a drive not lose the data
[06:43] <xelapond> alraune: but I compiled emacs myself without apt
[06:43] <Jason2gs> I'm the only one that uses this computer, so there's simply no need to have it password protected.
[06:43] <linuxdominator> Quenyar: system>prefs>appearance>desktop effects>none
[06:43] <DozedOnLinux> jason2gs by default the admin is blank :P
[06:43] <xelapond> can I tell it to shutup about emacs and install zsh and firefox?
[06:43] <Rolcol> Another question, is swap actually formated as anything special?  Can I just fill it up with zeros to erase its contents but still have it function?
[06:43] <linuxdominator> Detrix: there are, what do u want to do
[06:43] <DozedOnLinux> oh, did i say that ? oops
[06:43] <Quenyar> Jason2gs why on earth would you want to do that?
[06:44] <linuxdominator> Rolcol: no, you need to mkswap /dev/sdaX
[06:44] <Rolcol> Alright.  Thanks linuxdominator
[06:44] <Detrix> I want to install Utuntu on my laptop/window machine.
[06:44] <DozedOnLinux> Rolcol: you can view all that in gparted or Partition Editor
[06:44] <linuxdominator> Detrix: the installer should walk you through it and resize your windows partition without losing anything
[06:44] <linuxdominator> !partitions
[06:44] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: for the login settings you can have it automatically log in your user
[06:44] <randal> Hey does anyone know how to find if you are useing 32bit or 64 bit plz help
[06:45] <randal> Hey does anyone know how to find if you are useing 32bit or 64 bit plz help
[06:45] <randal> Hey does anyone know how to find if you are useing 32bit or 64 bit plz help
[06:45] <linuxdominator> randal: lsb_release -a
[06:45] <linuxdominator> hmm no
[06:45] <Quenyar> linuxdominator - compiz does what? How do I disable it?  If it breaks it worse, how do I put it back?
[06:45] <Detrix> I just wanted to be certain that the partioner that comes with ubunto would not hurt the windows stuff
[06:45] <linuxdominator> randal: uname -a look for x86_64 for 64bit
[06:46] <alraune> !matrox>Quenyar
[06:46] <DozedOnLinux> randal:  lsb_release -a
[06:46] <linuxdominator> Quenyar: i told you how to disable it, it is desktop effects
[06:46] <linuxdominator> DozedOnLinux: check it, it does not say
[06:46] <alraune> Quenyar:which matrox ?
[06:46] <Rolcol> linuxdominator: I see what you mean.  I just created an empty file and ran mkswap on it.
[06:46] <DozedOnLinux> uname -a ?
[06:46] <linuxdominator> yup
[06:46] <Jason2gs> DozedOnLinux, meh :p When I first installed, I set the root password. Now I don't know how to unset it. Quenyar, what do you mean? I built this computer, I'm the only one that uses this computer, so I have no need for a password. It just gets in the way :p zcat[1], thank you =] I'll look at how to do that. But still, is there a way to set the root password blank?
[06:46] <smokewon> Hey does anyone know a guide for turning folders into ISO's with ubuntu???
[06:46] <randal> DozedOnLinux: i 1686 is that 64 bit
[06:47] <Rolcol> smokewon: i think mkisofs
[06:47] <violet> love u
[06:47] <DozedOnLinux> linuxdominator: i was preparing that one just as you said it, needed to paste his name
[06:47] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:47] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:47] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:47] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:47] <DozedOnLinux> linuxdominator:  well that answers a question for me, and i didnt even have to ask it ;)
[06:47] <smokewon> i tried mkisofs, done nothing for me, sigh
[06:47] <Rolcol> I think you need to install it, smokewon
[06:47] <smokewon> i did
[06:47] <linuxdominator> !repeat | randal
[06:47] <smokewon> sudo apt-get install mkisofs
[06:48] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:48] <DozedOnLinux> linuxdominator:  this box not 64 bit, but my other is, i still put 32 on that one though
[06:48] <bizinichi> sup
[06:48] <Detrix> but before I do, I need to know how the get Ubuntu to dial out. I have set up the connection but it does not actually dial out. How do I get Ubuntu to actually dial.?
[06:48] <linuxdominator> smokewon: you will have to google that one
[06:48] <randal> how do i tell if i have 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:48] <randal> how do i tell if i have 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:48] <bizinichi> confidential
[06:48] <randal> how do i tell if i have 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:48] <linuxdominator> DozedOnLinux: you do not need to use 64bit OS... you have choice
[06:48] <randal> I KNOW
[06:48] <juannicolas> !iproute2
[06:48] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: You can easily set GDM to log you in automatically. You can also set 'no password' but that won't really do what you want, you will still need to enter your username and them press enter at the password prompt
[06:49] <randal> im install a pregram i need to know
[06:49] <markekeller> Hey, all - do you recommend installing the Radeon 9600 ATI drivers from the ATI site, as explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or is it better to use Envy?  Or is there no difference?
[06:49] <randal> how do i tell if i have 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:49] <linuxdominator> randal: uname -a look for x86_64 for 64bit
[06:49] <juannicolas> !iproute
[06:49] <DozedOnLinux> linuxdominator: yes i am aware of that. i chose it originally cause i wasnt sure. and 64bit had just been coming out, or so i thought at the time
[06:49] <linuxdominator> !info iproute
[06:49] <juannicolas> thx
[06:49] <randal> Linux Randal-desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:49] <randal> randal@Randal-desktop:~$
[06:49] <randal> Linux Randal-desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:49] <randal> randal@Randal-desktop:~$
[06:49] <randal> Linux Randal-desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:49] <randal> randal@Randal-desktop:~$
[06:49] <FloodBot2> randal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <DozedOnLinux> !flood | randal
[06:49] <linuxdominator> randal: you have 32bit and please stop repeating
[06:50] <markekeller> Anyone want to give me their quick opinion?
[06:50] <Detrix> I need to know how the get Ubuntu to dial out. I have set up the connection but it does not actually dial out. How do I get Ubuntu to actually dial.?
[06:50] <linuxdominator> !dialup
[06:50] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: The ubuntu install process won't let you proceed until you set a password. also there's no such thing as  a root password (you can set one but we won't tell you how, and strongly advise people to use sudo instead)
[06:50] <DozedOnLinux> markekeller:  i believe it is suggested you use the ones that are offered by the system and not the ones from the STI site
[06:50] <linuxdominator> markekeller: depends what you want
[06:50] <linuxdominator> try em both
[06:50] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: online ?
[06:50] <DozedOnLinux> ATI site *
[06:51] <Detrix> read that allready. it does not say how to actually get ubuntu to dial.
[06:51] <linuxdominator> sorry detrix been 15 years since dialup for me
[06:52] <DozedOnLinux> Detrix: did you try as suggested > Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[06:52] <arpy_> hOW TO HOOKUP SVN REPO TO CHECKIN TO /VAR/WWW?
[06:52] <Detrix> I hate it myself
[06:52] <mjburling> Anyone know where I can get a good Arabic keyboard layout?
[06:52] <Detrix> but I have not choice at this time
[06:52] <smokewon> mkisofs is pathetic.....
[06:52] <markekeller> DozedOnLinux: So you think I should try it from "Restricted Modules", then?
[06:52] <smokewon> this is why i end up using godam windows again, because of this CLI rubbish
[06:52] <linuxdominator> smokewon: http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/burningcds/makeanisoimage.htm
[06:52] <linuxdominator> whatever ;)
[06:53] <DozedOnLinux> markekeller: i would go with the one that is supplied by Ubuntu first, if that fails, then Envy is in the repos too
[06:53] <Detrix> DozedOnLinux.....nope...I will check it out
[06:53] <DozedOnLinux> markekeller: it is they just put it in
[06:53] <DozedOnLinux> !envy
[06:53] <arpy_> how do I hook up my repo located in /var/lib/svn to be accessable in /var/www for view?
[06:53] <DozedOnLinux> USUPPORTED mind you
[06:53] <linuxdominator> arpy_: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
[06:53] <zcat[1]> smokewon: You could probably make an iso in fileroller .. I know it can unpack them
[06:53] <smokewon> noooo, im not trying to make a iso of a CD image, im trying to make an ISO out of a folder...
[06:53] <arpy_> linuxdominator: thx
[06:54] <Jason2gs> zcat[1], my apologizes :p That's what I meant. The password prompt in the terminal. Setting my user password to nothing would make it so I don't have to type anything in when that prompt comes up, correct? Is this possible?
[06:54] <linuxdominator> smokewon:    mkisofs -o /tmp/cd.iso /tmp/directory/
[06:54] <markekeller> DozedOnLinux: I actually have EnvyNG installed, and used it for my last installation, but Blender didn't work properly, and now it's reverted to Mesa for some reason, so I'm trying to get acceleration back, and get Blender to work good to.  :)
[06:54] <mjburling> Where can I download keyboard layouts for ubuntu?
[06:54] <DozedOnLinux> markekeller: my bad that was for Detrix ,
[06:54] <smokewon> linuxdominator why the /tmp etc
[06:54] <linuxdominator> mjburling: they should be in system>prefs>keyboard
[06:54] <smokewon> ?
[06:55] <mjburling> linuxdominator: The prepackaged Arabic one is really bad... are there any other resources?
[06:55] <linuxdominator> smokewon: why not? use /home/you if u want
[06:55] <Ab3L> good morning
[06:55] <linuxdominator> mjburling: not off top of my head, but I GUARANTEE google knows
[06:55] <mjburling> All I can come up with is how to go where you just suggested.
[06:56] <DozedOnLinux> Detrix:  i dont know about the dialup side of Ubuntu, otherwise i would be glad to help you. best i can do is hunt down what might be useful for you to get it working, and that may take some time
[06:56] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: Let me put it this way. For many many years, Microsoft thought that it would be much easier not to have passwords, run all users as Administrator, etc. After all, most PCs are single-user, etc..... With Vista, they realised the Unix people actually had a much better model. There's a reason Windows has millions of viruses and Linux/BSD have none and it has very little to do with market share.
[06:56] <Rolcol> smokewon: usually advice for how to do things is given in commands because they're easier than telling someone to go to places and press certian buttons.  With the CLI, you can copy and paste the commands as people give them to you without needing to do much extra.
[06:56] <linuxdominator> mjburling: http://duniacaktuh.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/arabic-fonts-on-ubuntu-804/ ?
[06:56] <smokewon> linuxdominator: this is what i get: joe@joe-desktop:~/Desktop$ mkisofs -o /home/joe/slackware.sio /home/joe/slackware
[06:56] <smokewon> Setting input-charset to 'UTF-8' from locale.
[06:56] <smokewon> mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - '/home/joe/slackware'.
[06:56] <smokewon> what the bloody hell does this mean?
[06:56] <rand0m-> what is the most stable browser in ubuntu - all 3 main ones i use keep crashign (opera, firefox, and konqueror)
[06:56] <DozedOnLinux> Detrix:  if you will be on for a while, i would certainly help in hunting a fix, otherwise, i dont know what to tell you
[06:56] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: So please, if you want a passwordless, all-admin-all-the-time system, by all means switch back to windows...
[06:56] <linuxdominator> smokewon: does that directory exist?
[06:57] <smokewon> yes
[06:57] <joetheodd> smokewon, everyone steals my username!
[06:57] <Detrix> DozedOn>> thanx for your help, I am trying to find the alternative you suggested in the docs before I go and try it.
[06:57] <linuxdominator> smokewon: should work... mkisofs is a very stable app
[06:57] <zod21> exit
[06:57] <tacosteve> smokewon, you put sio instead of iso
[06:57] <linuxdominator> doesnt' matter
[06:57] <smokewon> theres a directory called "slackware" on my desktop
[06:57] <smokewon> im trying to turn that into an iso
[06:57] <Commie_Jebus> help! after someone imed me the beep thingy is keep on repeating!  I will be back...hahahah
[06:59] <smokewon> zcat[1] yeah but brasero doesnt seem to let me make iso's out of folders etc
[06:59] <zcat[1]> I know k3b can make ISOs instead of burning to disk
[06:59] <SNuxoll> smokewon: eh? yes it does
[06:59] <linuxdominator> smokewon: you have the best tool... mkisofs, simple, but yes, you need to type it :)
[06:59] <zcat[1]> Just burn and pick 'to image' instead of a drive .. brasero should be the same but I haven't checked
[06:59] <joejoecircusboy> Jason2gs: Setting no password isn't going to make you more susceptible to viruses or other malware, but it'll make it trivial for an attacker to break into your system
[07:00] <smokewon> SNuxoll it does? i dont see where
[07:00] <linuxdominator> umm there is no root password by default, does not make it trivial to attack
[07:00] <SNuxoll> smokewon: burn, drop down the drive selection, select "File image"
[07:00] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: there is a root password by default
[07:00] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: it's randomly generated on each install
[07:00] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: But if everybody ran their system that way, Linux would soon have the same kind of virus issues that 'doze does. I like Linux how it is, WITHOUT a virus problem...
[07:00] <joejoecircusboy> linuxdenominator: He was asking about his user password
[07:00] <linuxdominator> SNuxoll: oh really ? hehe
[07:01] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: That's rediculous, viruses don't need admin privileges.
[07:01] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: there was this big glaring bug a while ago
[07:01] <Rolcol> smokewon: in brasero, you have to go through it as you would make a data CD.  When the pop up comes up asking what drive to burn to, you can choose file image instead.
[07:01] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: the installer wrote the password it generated in the install log
[07:01] <smokewon> mkisofs worked, but not really, every thing has ":1" at the end of it, all files within the iso
[07:02] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: Depends what they want to do. Viruses with root can hide much more easily than viruses without root.
[07:02] <smokewon> why did mkisofs put a ":1" at the end of every file?
[07:02] <zcat[1]> smokewon: ";1" because it's part of the ISO standard for filenames
[07:03] <smokewon> ok so thats normal? why dont i see that with other files within ISO's?
[07:03] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: sure, they can hide easier... but they don't really need to hide at all :)  most users won't notice new files in hidden directories in their home dirs
[07:03] <zcat[1]> smokewon: other software will do the same, they just won't tell you..
[07:03] <smokewon> oh ok, well thanks for the help people, ill see if this works, brb
[07:04] <joejoecircusboy> (02:00:52 AM) SNuxoll: linuxdominator: there is a root password by default  << No there isn't, check you /etc/shadow
[07:04] <prince_jammys> it isn't possible to log in as root in a default ubuntu install
[07:04] <linuxdominator> whatever it is locked... you cannot login as root by default
[07:05] <joejoecircusboy> linuxdenominator: And no one was disputing that - thanks for your input :)
[07:05] <johnny_> I'm try to set up a WEP 64/128 bit Hex on our home wireless router, does anyone know how to go about doing it within Ubuntu?
[07:06] <SNuxoll> prince_jammys: technically, it is
[07:06] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: there are many reasons wht Windows has the problems it does. Users running as admin is only part of the problem. What really annoys me is people who migrate to Linux to get away from Windows viruses and then want to change Linux in ways that are the _cause_ of Windows virus problems.. Make it easier to download and run binaries, click on a website link to install software, get rid of passwords and run as root, etc...
[07:06] <SNuxoll> prince_jammys: your chance of guesing the correct password is slim to none however
[07:06] <prince_jammys> SNuxoll: if it is, the documentation is flawed
[07:06] <r2s> does usbserial.ko included in most distro by default??
[07:06] <prince_jammys> SNuxoll: the documentation says that the root account is locked by default
[07:06] <prince_jammys> not protected by a random password that one might guess
[07:07] <linuxdominator> r2s: ... it should be, I use a usb>serial device
[07:07] <linuxdominator> !root
[07:07] <SNuxoll> prince_jammys: must have changed it since I last even cared about the root account
[07:07] <SNuxoll> prince_jammys: used to be that way
[07:07] <johnny_> I'm trying to setup a WEP 64/128 bit Hex security on our home wireless router, does anyone know how to go about doing this in Ubuntu?
[07:07] <zcat[1]> "no password" is quite different from "a password of '' so you can just press enter"
[07:07] <SNuxoll> johnny_: why bother if you are using wep?
[07:08] <linuxdominator> johnny_: ya use WPA and it should be in your user manual
[07:08] <r2s> linuxdominator: I mean most distro kernel 2.6.x included that by default??.. coz I'm making a 3G/HSDPA dialer package.. and thinking if I should include that in the package
[07:08] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: WIndows is suspectible to viruses for 2 reasons: 1 market share, 2 homogeneous platform.   What can I do to restore it?
[07:09] <Commie_Jebus> joejoecircusboy: and also because it is not open-source and therefor dosnt have a alot of develp
[07:09] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: not really....
[07:09] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: Market share is not the main reason. Windows #1 problem imho is that there's little seperation between 'data' and 'software' -- you 'open' a file the same way. If it's a document, windows launches the application. If it's a program, windows runs it.
[07:09] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: both are pretty easy to get around, one just requires some more time
[07:09] <linuxdominator> for some SNuxoll
[07:09] <wols> linuxdominator: they are about equally useful. ie. not at all. WEP has the advantage of obfuscation tho
[07:09] <linuxdominator> matter of firing up kismet
[07:09] <zcat[1]> ... and then they keep insisting on being able to include 'code' inside 'document' formats in ways that make it easy for virus writers
[07:10] <smokewon> Unfortunatly that didnt work
[07:10] <smokewon> sorry how do i burn ISO's with brasero again? from files i mean
[07:10] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: um... how are seeing this
[07:10] <SNuxoll> smokewon: Data Disc, add the files
[07:10] <linuxdominator> smokewon: ricght click on ISO and say burn ;)
[07:10] <smokewon> yup done that
[07:10] <linuxdominator> from nautilus
[07:10] <SNuxoll> smokewon: then select Burn, select file image
[07:10] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: Note that Apple exhibits far more of that type of behaviour, yet does not have the problem that Windows does. Why? Market share
[07:10] <zh> ＃ubuntu-tw
[07:11] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: he wants to make an iso from a bunch of files
[07:11] <smokewon> its not asking me to select file image
[07:11] <linuxdominator> not what he asked this time
[07:11] <smokewon> it jsut burns after i click on burn
[07:11] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: not exactly true either, os x has access restrictions
[07:11] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: yes, it is
[07:11] <zh> ubuntu-tw
[07:11] <jobenjo> linuxdomainator: Top and free -m list 0k used 0k total 0k free
[07:11] <SNuxoll> smokewon: you need to select burn from the file menu
[07:11] <smokewon> yes i want to make a ISO image from a bunch of files
[07:11] <smokewon> oh ok
[07:11] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: (that is)
[07:12] <smokewon> there is no file menu
[07:12] <smokewon> only Project
[07:12] <smokewon> Edit, View etc
[07:12] <SNuxoll> smokewon: Project...
[07:12] <zcat[1]> smokewon: I don't know that brasero can do it. try k3b instead?
[07:12] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: you could paste output of sudo fdisk -l for me
[07:12] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: yes, brasero can do it
[07:12] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: I did it earlier today
[07:13] <zcat[1]> SNuxoll: ok...
[07:13] <smokewon> I dont see where its happening, i just tried on Project => Data CD  (whcih does not make an ISO)
[07:13] <SNuxoll> bah, my irssi windows are all fubared
[07:13] <smokewon> so tried:
[07:13] <SNuxoll> smokewon: make a new project that's a data cd
[07:13] <zcat[1]> SNuxoll: I just cheked and couldn't figure out how. You did understand the problem.. creat ISO from a folder.. not 'burn an iso' ?
[07:13] <SNuxoll> smokewon: add your files to the CD
[07:13] <smokewon> yup
[07:13] <SNuxoll> smokewon: then click burn, it will show a dialog
[07:14] <linuxdominator> smokewon: can you rip the files off a cd?
[07:14] <joejoecircusboy> SNuxoll: Right, and how would that protect again any of the attacks you just highlighted?  How would running as 'non-root' protect against opening malicious programs as documents, or malicious script content in documents? (i.e. the weaknesses in Windows you just cited as its downfall)
[07:14] <smokewon> i can rip files off a cd, just not turn files into a ISO image
[07:14] <SNuxoll> smokewon: there will be a dropdown to select the drive you burn with, pull it down and select "File image"
[07:14] <smokewon> i click burn theres no dialog after that, it just burns
[07:14] <linuxdominator> smokewon: then it is dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/joe/Desktop/yourcd.iso
[07:14] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: I don't think I know of a OS X program that allows scripts in documents
[07:14] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: uh-oh... partition table... http://dpaste.com/70328/
[07:15] <joejoecircusboy> SNuxoll: THe browser? Office suite?
[07:15] <linuxdominator> and i know that mounts right in daemon tools for instance smokewon
[07:15] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: MS Office and iWork on the mac don't allow scripts
[07:15] <smokewon> need it to boot off though :S
[07:15] <linuxdominator> not really good jobenjo
[07:15] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: and javascript is generally sandboxed
[07:15] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: The partition table problem?
[07:15] <SNuxoll> smokewon: making bootable discs is a different matter all together
[07:16] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: next time you reboot it probably will not start up...
[07:16] <joejoecircusboy> SNuxoll: Doesn't prevent it from being exploited (Look up Firefox vulnerabilities from the last couple of years)
[07:16] <smokewon> brb
[07:16] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: Gecko sucks anyways ;)
[07:16] <joejoecircusboy> SNuxoll: Fair enough, but that doesn't refute my point ;)
[07:16] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: We just rebooted the machine, so that wasn't the problem. This is a xen-hosted machine, so maybe that's what's going on?
[07:16] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: no, it doesn't
[07:16] <zcat[1]> SNuxoll: Weird.. I just went back and NOT it lets me change that.. before (perhaps because I hadn't put anything in the folder?) it wouldn't let me pick anything but the burner ..
[07:16] <zcat[1]> s/NOT/NOW/
[07:17] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: strange
[07:17] <Rat409>  /cl
[07:17] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: did this happen after last reboot
[07:17] <zcat[1]> anyhow.. smokewon yes, do what SNuxoll said.. or k3b works the same way but brasero should let you do it.
[07:17] <Jordan_U> joejoecircusboy: Which is why I personally run my browser as an underprivileged user ( or setup selinux / apparmer policies, depending on how lazy I am :)
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> asdfasdf
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> dsa
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> fsd
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> af
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> sd
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> sd
[07:17] <FloodBot2> JUAN_18---------: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> sd
[07:18] <zcat[1]> Hmmm.. cat on keyboard?
[07:18] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: No. This happened, we rebooted, and the problem persisted.
[07:18] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: Ya, there are solutions to this problem, but it's not as simple as "don't set a root password" (which is what started this discussion)
[07:18] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: I don't like K3B, is a KDE app, I refuse to install non-gtk apps :)
[07:18] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: i would contact you xen provider, I am no xen expert, I use openvz ;)
[07:19] <linuxdominator> and i would take a backup
[07:19] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: but I'm a purist who likes a consistent looking desktop
[07:19] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: Just started. Thank you for your help!
[07:19] <Rat409> gnomebaker or graveman are good also
[07:19] <zcat[1]> SNuxoll: horses for courses. I kinda like k3b.. then again I have a desktop theme that looks a lot like vista so clearly I have no taste at all ;)
[07:20] <Rat409> lol
[07:20] <dexi> is there a way to print to a network printer on a mostly windows network that im wired to?
[07:20] <andi> hi<@all
[07:20] <wols> dexi: sure
[07:20] <DogBoy> what does vista look like?
[07:20] <dexi> wols:  is it easy?
[07:20] <wols> DogBoy: ask ##windows
[07:20] <con-man> what audio codec do I need to play windows media audio in linux?
[07:20] <zcat[1]> glassy and blurry and crystal-like
[07:20] <andi> some command line geeks here?
[07:20] <SNuxoll> dexi: crap basically?
[07:20] <SNuxoll> andi: you called?
[07:20] <wols> üdemostly. two choices either via IPP from cups or samba
[07:20] <DogBoy> wols, it was a retorical question
[07:20] <wols> should use CUPS first
[07:21] <andi> Hi SNuxoll
[07:21] <dexi> SNuxoll: huh?
[07:21] <SNuxoll> con-man: just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:21] <wols> DogBoy: do you have a ubuntu support problem?
[07:21] <mkquist> vista? what's that?
[07:21] <andi> i have an ftp username which contains an "@"
[07:21] <SNuxoll> dexi: you asked what vista looks like :P
[07:21] <DogBoy> what's up wols
[07:21] <dexi> SNuxoll: no i didnt
[07:21] <dexi> SNuxoll: you must have misread
[07:21] <mkquist> is vista some kinda linux program?
[07:21] <wols> DogBoy: I asked, "Do you have a ubuntu support question"?
[07:21] <alraune> dexi:turn on win file n printersharig, over (ubu) places>network>winNet>pc>printer...
[07:21] <SNuxoll> dexi: bah, yup
[07:21] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: We might see virtualization technology lead to a more generalized form of sandboxing, where individual apps are essentially started in lite-VMs of their own, with a share folder or something for file downloads
[07:21] <DogBoy> yes but why
[07:21] <mkquist> jk... of course
[07:21] <andi> I wanna mount an FTP drive via curlftpfs
[07:22] <con-man> SNuxoll: ty
[07:22] <dexi> thanks alraune
[07:22] <Jordan_U> joejoecircusboy: Not setting a root password in Ubuntu is really just a way to encourage good habits, the way that Ubuntu has sudo setup there is no technical difference of note between  "su -c" and sudo or "sudo -s" and "su"  but a huge difference in how users tend to act with the two setups.
[07:22] <andi> now i get something like user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:22] <wols> DogBoy: cause you are OT and this is a ubuntu supporty channel only. if you want to smalltalk: /msg ubottu OT
[07:22] <andi> can I escape the first @ somehow which is part f the username?
[07:22] <zcat[1]> at least it doesn't run like vista.. I have a friend uses vista, their computer has 1.5x CPU speed, twice the ram, basically half-again or better specs on every component than mine, but it just seems 'sluggish' in comparison..
[07:22] <SNuxoll> andi: andi yes
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> Jordan_U: there is a difference between su, su -c, sudo, sudo -s, sudo -i, sudo su - etc.
[07:23] <linuxdominator> andi: try wrapping whole thing in single quotes ? 'reger@@host.com'
[07:23] <andi> FTP guis do it ,)
[07:23] <dexi> alraune: what if I don't see a printer inside that PC's directory?
[07:23] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: Understood, and I like that. But when a new user asks why, we should go into a rant about malware and virus threats
[07:23] <zcat[1]> actually it seems 'sluggish' compared to my laptop which is even lower spec.
[07:23] <joejoecircusboy> *shouldn't
[07:23] <dexi> alraune: but i know it's connected...
[07:23] <SNuxoll> andi: use %43 I believe
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> Jordan_U: and, not setting a root password is not a good habit, imo.
[07:23] <wols> zcat[1]: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[07:23] <andi> SNuxoll: thanks, I try
[07:23] <joejoecircusboy> fyrestrtr: He's referring to root lacking a valid password (not allowing logins with no password)
[07:24] <zcat[1]> no, I just feel like ranting. I may answer a few questions if I see something I know the answer to...
[07:24] <linuxdominator> if you guys wanna chat go to -ot
[07:24] <wols> zcat[1]: then rant elsewhere please
[07:24] <zcat[1]> yah, ok...
[07:24] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: join #ubuntu-offtopic then
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> joejoecircusboy: thanks -- but root should have a password, it helps in system recovery.
[07:24] <wols> fyrestrtr: no it does not
[07:24] <alraune> dexi:if you can see the pc its attched too, take a look on the pc the printer is connected too (fw, printer sharing.. etc)
[07:24] <zcat[1]> fyrestrtr: not really..
[07:24] <SNuxoll> fyrestrtr: not really
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> to say that its a good habit to have an 'unknown' or 'invalid' root password is good practice is not right.
[07:25] <zcat[1]> You can boot to a root prompt easily enough if you have to, no password required
[07:25] <joejoecircusboy> fyrestrtr: I think Ubuntu allows root login in single user mode (for that type of thing) - don't quote me on that though
[07:25] <wols> fyrestrtr: the policy of ubuntu and this channel is "no root password" and that's it and believe me you won#t change it.
[07:25] <SNuxoll> fyrestrtr: when you boot into single user mode you don't need the root password
[07:25] <dexi> alraune: ok i'll go ask my dad about it, i think he's running it
[07:25] <dexi> alraune: its vista, do you know what needs to be done?
[07:25]  * Omar87 sends his greetings to everyone in the room.
[07:25] <SNuxoll> fyrestrtr: being able to login as root is a bad thing
[07:25] <wols> fyrestrtr: it's not unknown since there is NO root password
[07:25] <xiven> Hey guys
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> wols: yes, I know what the policy is, thanks :)
[07:25] <xiven> I'm needing some help over a couple things.
[07:25] <wols> fyrestrtr: then stop this discussion please
[07:25] <linuxdominator> fyrestrtr: it is a good policy, no reason to even talk about it
[07:26] <linuxdominator> whats up xiven
[07:26] <xiven> One: Sharing a printer that is connected to a machine running Windows, and Two: How to get Ubuntu to scan for 802.11G Wireless networks (Available)
[07:26] <alraune> dexi:this won't be vista channel, but go to network,preferences
[07:26] <linuxdominator> !samba | xiven
[07:26] <zcat[1]> By 'no root password' what we mean is 'there is nothing you can type at the password prompt which would ever qualify as a valid root password'
[07:26] <linuxdominator> hmm
[07:26] <linuxdominator> hold on
[07:26] <alraune> !wireless
[07:27] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: yup
[07:27] <deeporange1> Hello all... I am new to Ubuntu and have a question about linux software. Anyone got a moment to spare to answer a question or two?
[07:27] <dexi> ok thanks alraune i'll see what i can do
[07:27] <xiven> SAMBA I would install onto the Linux machine, or the Windows machine?
[07:27] <linuxdominator> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrinterSharing xiven
[07:27] <wols> dexi: check with smbclient -L <ip of windows> if the printer is available on the network
[07:27] <alraune> dexi :type: /list in your irc client
[07:27] <zcat[1]> 'cos it would have to hash down to '*' and the hashes just don't work that way.
[07:27] <xiven> I should mention the machine with the printer is running Vista
[07:27] <xiven> ok
[07:27] <xiven> How about Scanning for Available wirless networks (802.11G) with Ubuntu?
[07:28] <wols> xiven: neither. samba is if you want to share a linux disk or printer with windows. if you want to access a windows printer, it's not needed. is the windows printer available on the network?
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> deeporange1: just ask your question, if anyone knows, they will help :)
[07:28] <wols> xiven: iwlist
[07:28] <dexi> wols: is there a command to list all IPs in the network?
[07:28] <zcat[1]> just ask deeporange1, we'll decide if we can answer it
[07:28] <deeporange1> Hey thanks.
[07:28] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: Actually, the hash is '!' on my install... but I'm splitting hairs :)
[07:28] <Rat409> iwlist scanning?
[07:28] <wols> dexi: no
[07:28] <dexi> crap
[07:28] <wols> dexi: well there is arp.... sorta
[07:28] <wols> dexi: your windows box knows what IP it is
[07:28] <dexi> ok i'll have to actually get up and ask my dad to do an ipconfig
[07:28] <linuxdominator> dexi: nmap <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -sP
[07:28] <linuxdominator> install nmap first
[07:28] <SigmaProjects> Hey everyone... Can anyone help me out uninstalling vmware-server?  dpkg throws errors at me while trying to get rid of it
[07:28] <dexi> ok
[07:29] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: What errors?
[07:29] <wols> dexi: it can work if you know the netbios name. but netbios resolution is awful. hit+miss
[07:29] <dexi> 0/24 is range linuxdominator ?
[07:29] <wols> !errors SigmaProjects
[07:29] <wols> !errors | SigmaProjects
[07:29] <linuxdominator> dexi: adjust accordingly
[07:29] <dexi> ok
[07:29] <dexi> i'll try
[07:29] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: it is? hmm... I can't check on this box.. I've done something hypocritaical here ;)
[07:29] <deeporange1> I am looking for some software. What I need is an open source free disc recovery program. While installing linux I deallocated one of my most important drives....
[07:29] <jemtv> wondering if someone can tell me i need to update the kernel to support my tv card in mythtv i have found this site but just wondering if someone can explain do i need to tyep all this stuff in somewhere? http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbb94521cff24c98c2dbee28fb95e007c6bcaa43
[07:29] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: lol
[07:29] <deeporange1> Does anyone know of some good linux based software for disc recovery?
[07:29] <wols> deeporange1: what exactly did you do?
[07:29] <zcat[1]> all the other locked accounts are * tho..
[07:29] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: Try testdisk
[07:30] <deeporange1> I accidentally deallocated my media drive (that also contains my work stuff too)
[07:30] <wols> jemtv: don't
[07:30] <SigmaProjects> Here's the error in pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m125b716c
[07:30] <deeporange1> I guess my file naming tables or whatnot were deleted
[07:30] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: But if you actually reformatted the drive then you are most likely SOL
[07:30] <linuxdominator> deeporange1: i bet this can do it http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[07:30] <linuxdominator> if it is possible
[07:31] <wols> deeporange1: unless you KNOW what happened, trying to rescue is futile and probably does more harm than good
[07:31] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: ya... I think '*' is used for an active account for which there is no valid password, where as '!' actually disables the account (but not for sudo apparently)
[07:31] <deeporange1> I have run some crapola proprietary programs that cost a pretty penny and I can see that the files are still in tact... But I will have to pay out the nose to recover them/
[07:31] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: If it's just your partition table that is screwed up then testdisk will fix it
[07:31] <linuxdominator> deeporange1: first thing to do is to image the entire drive, then work from that
[07:31] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: When I want to dissable an account I change the shell to /bin/false
[07:31] <Eurytheus> Hello
[07:31] <linuxdominator> deeporange1: you can very possibly fix it, it may be hard work tho
[07:32] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: YOu can log into an account w/ ssh keyauth if the hash is '*', but sshd will reject your key if the hash is '!'
[07:32] <webpirate> hello
[07:32] <webpirate> anyone using amsn here?
[07:32] <jemtv> wols, dont what?
[07:32] <drazak> nobody
[07:32] <drazak> ever used it
[07:32] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: me too (well, I do both)
[07:32] <wols> jemtv: compile your own kernel
[07:32] <webpirate> my amsn won't connect anymore
[07:32] <webpirate> anyone having the same problem?
[07:32] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: just doing /bin/fasle would still allow FTP auth, for example
[07:32] <wols> webpirate: yes it's common
[07:33] <deeporange1> I have looked into the ultimateWell, ultimate boot disc doesn't have what I need. Basically I need the file tables or whatever rebuilt.
[07:33] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy : http://pastebin.com/m125b716c thats the error
[07:33] <jemtv> wols, can you explain more? sorry so new to all this
[07:33] <deeporange1> Programs such as disc recovery wizard do this.
[07:33] <wols> jemtv: you will mess it up and have an unworkable kernel and system. that's all
[07:33] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: Again, testdisk should do what you need
[07:33] <linuxdominator> deeporange1: if you read man page of your filesystem you may find out how
[07:33] <wols> jemtv: what kernel version do you need?
[07:33] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Hmm!
[07:33] <Jordan_U> !info testdisk | deeporange1
[07:34] <linuxdominator> good call Jordan_U check it myself ;)
[07:34] <deeporange1> Hey that sounds intriguing Ubottu!
[07:34] <DogBoy> jemtv, what tv card is that
[07:34] <webpirate> has anyone heard about any network problems with msn ?
[07:35] <linuxdominator> i again urge you to image disk deeporange1
[07:35] <wols> webpirate: I just told you. it's common
[07:35] <jemtv> dogboy, compro dvb-t200a
[07:35] <deeporange1> I will have to look into that more fully
[07:35] <webpirate> oh...
[07:35] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Did you try removing with dpkg?
[07:35] <alraune>  deeporange1: ubottu is a bot
[07:35] <prince_jammys> SigmaProjects: what is the command you are running that gives that error?
[07:35] <deeporange1> Really!?
[07:35] <wols> jemtv: useless info. what chip does it use is more important. and I asked you something
[07:35] <deeporange1> Seems like a nice bot thought
[07:35] <webpirate> ok...so I guess its an amsn issue? should I upgrade?
[07:35] <jemtv> wols, sorry thought i replied
[07:35] <DogBoy> jemtv, havey you looked at using mythbuntu
[07:35] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  oddly enough, this command: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` xinetd
[07:36] <jemtv> wols, not sure which one it is what is te terminal cmd to check
[07:36] <alraune>  deeporange1: ubottu is a bot, thank Jordan_U who triggered it
[07:36] <linuxdominator> webpirate: it is an msn problem more likely... you could try using pidgin, which is better imo
[07:36] <jemtv> dogboy, thats wht im using
[07:36] <wols> jemtv: I said "which one do you need". not "which one do you run right now"
[07:36] <deeporange1> Thanks Jordan_U for triggering a very knowledgeable bot!
[07:36] <jemtv> wols, not sure...im very new to this and not understading sorry
[07:36] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: np :)
[07:36] <wols> jemtv: then find out
[07:37] <wols> jemtv: unless you know what you need, it will be kinda hard to get it, right?
[07:37] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Few ideas: 1. if you don't need vmware, try remove it explicitly first, then do the above. 2. Did you update your apt db first? (apt-get update),  3. Try removing vmware with dpkg