[02:24] <khermans> tuntun, do you see any error messages in your logs?
[02:24] <ector> esc and then e?
[02:24] <ector> and then what?
[02:24] <khermans> tuntun, are you using Network Manager?
[02:25] <MasterShrek> ector, when you are booting, at your grub menu, press e on the first ubuntu entry, then go to the line that says kernel, and hit e again, remove quiet and splash and hit enter, then hit b to boot
[02:25] <khermans> tuntun, try w/o networkmanager
[02:25] <at0myx> xobius:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50560/
[02:25] <neo_linux_noob> hello room; i need help
[02:25] <xobius> at0myx,  the partition that you want to rezise is the system root?
[02:25] <RB2> MasterShrek, Just checking, because I didn't know if quite was actually a valid parameter.
[02:25] <khermans> ector, then remove the splash and quiet options, and hit 'b'
[02:25] <tuntun> khermans:what does network manager do?
[02:25] <MasterShrek> RB2, i dont think it is...
[02:25] <at0myx> xobius:  I want to delete sda3 and resize sda1 to take up the new space.
[02:25] <khermans> tuntun, it uhh ... manages your network settings
[02:26] <khermans> !networkmanager  | tuntun
[02:26] <ubotu> tuntun: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:26] <neo_linux_noob> I cant log in to my user
[02:26] <xobius> at0myx, perhaps it isn't posible
[02:26] <at0myx> xobius:  why not?
[02:26] <khermans> neo_linux_noob, reset your passwd
[02:26] <neo_linux_noob> will someone please help
[02:26] <fantum13> neo_linux_noob: what's up?
[02:26] <tuntun> khermans:I poked around and couldnt find an option to change polling freq. its prolly in atext file somewhere
[02:26] <xobius> at0myx, because it is in extend partition
[02:26] <neo_linux_noob> I got this error message
[02:26] <dsnyders> How do I find/remove duplicate files?
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> " GDM could not write your authorization file . This
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> could mean that you are out of disk space or that your
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> home directory could not be opened for writing . In any
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> case it is not possible to login. Contact system administrator ."
[02:27] <at0myx> sda2 is an extended partition.  sda3 is a fat32.
[02:27] <xobius> at0myx,  and your root is prymary partition
[02:27] <tuntun> khermans:cat5, not wireless
[02:27] <fantum13> !paste
[02:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:27] <xobius> are differsnt
[02:27] <khermans> dsnyders, find / -type f | while read line; do md5sum "$line"; ....
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> Can anyone explain this error msg?
[02:27] <ector> ok master... i'll do that
[02:27] <xobius> at0myx, is beter move your home directory
[02:27] <ector> ( i was writing it down... hehe)
[02:27] <khermans> pipe to uniq or inverse
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> its the same on all my other user as well.
[02:28] <ector> i think i did that before and it stops at some numbers
[02:28] <kikabola> i just installed 7.1 and i was wondering if someone could help me connect to my wireless?
[02:28] <xobius> at0myx,  in a new partition
[02:28] <khermans> tuntun, network manager also manages wired
[02:28] <ector> will i have to do that every time
[02:28] <neo_linux_noob> i can only log in to Gnome on my Ubuntu with 'root'.
[02:28] <khermans> !wireless | kikabola
[02:28] <ubotu> kikabola: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:28] <fantum13> neo_linux_noob: Are you sure you're not out of space on the drive?
[02:28] <kikabola> thanks iĺl check it out.
[02:28] <Clearzen> neo_linux_noob: It shouldn't let you login with root at all. What did you change?
[02:28] <ector> i have a GE FORCE 5200LE video card...
[02:28] <MasterShrek> neo_linux_noob, remove any .gnome folder in your user's home dir then try again
[02:29] <neo_linux_noob> ok
[02:29] <khermans> neo_linux_noob, log in as root; df -h; check user exists and passwd is set
[02:29] <at0myx> xobius:  So I cant simply delete sda3 which is fat32 and resize sda1 which is ext format?
[02:29] <khermans> at0myx, just use gparted ?
[02:29] <fantum13> So everyone, I'm setting up an encryption scheme on my Ubuntu, should I use AES, Serpent or Twofish?
[02:29] <at0myx> khermans:  I tried it once and my pc didn't boot anymore.
[02:30] <khermans> fantum13, i used twofish
[02:30] <xobius> at0myx, you should rezize the extended partition, next rezize the primary partition.
[02:30] <neo_linux_noob>  .gnome2_private
[02:30] <dsnyders> khermans, I have several backup folders within backup folders. Will this procedure help?
[02:30] <MasterShrek> neo_linux_noob, yes
[02:30] <khermans> at0myx, oops!
[02:30] <fantum13> I'm struggling between serpent and twofish... Someone push me in a direction
[02:30] <gotamatw> Hi! How can I install a lexmark z600 compatible printer on Gutsy, AMD64?
[02:30] <khermans> dsnyders, md5sum will show files which have the sam exact content
[02:30] <xobius> at0myx, it is very danger
[02:30] <khermans> not different revisions
[02:31] <khermans> !printers | gotamatw
[02:31] <ubotu> gotamatw: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:31] <xobius> at0myx, perhaps you will lose all
[02:31] <neo_linux_noob> ok i did the df -h
[02:31] <at0myx> xobius:  hmmm.  that sucks
[02:31] <neo_linux_noob> do you need the output?
[02:31] <xobius> at0myx, howevwr
[02:31] <khermans> neo_linux_noob, anything under "avail" ?
[02:31] <at0myx> xobius:  I thought that when you delete a partition, it removes the formatting.
[02:31] <xobius> at0myx, you can use that space
[02:31] <khermans> at0myx, deleting a prtition removes it from the partiiton table
[02:32] <floatingredwagon> hey all.  Graphical glitch in ubuntu with nvidia drivers... all the windows are completely white.  Somebody told me a command earlier today to fix it... anyone know it?
[02:32] <xobius> at0myx,  you can mount (and move) any directory
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> /dev/sda2              25G   13G   11G  54% /
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> varrun                316M  212K  315M   1% /var/run
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> varlock               316M     0  316M   0% /var/lock
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> udev                  316M   84K  316M   1% /dev
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> devshm                316M     0  316M   0% /dev/shm
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> lrm                   316M   34M  282M  11% /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> sure
[02:32] <khermans> floatingredwagon, disable compiz?
[02:32] <khermans> !pastebin | neo_linux_noob
[02:32] <ubotu> neo_linux_noob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:32] <troythetechguy> after adding user to group, I still cannot get sound for user # 2.  Must I reboot for changes to take effect?
[02:32] <xobius> at0myx, in a new partition
[02:32] <dsnyders> neo_linux_noob, Use pastebin when you're posting multiple lines
[02:33] <steven_> Hi does anybody know if they fixed the flash file for linux ubuntu?
[02:33] <floatingredwagon> about to update drivers to make compiz work... but need the temporary fix.  It was [command] --[single parameter]...  both fairly close to english words.
[02:33] <Juhaz> metacity --replace
[02:33] <floatingredwagon> that's the one.  Thank you Juhaz!
[02:33] <neo_linux_noob> sorry im reading
[02:33] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, you can just do:   df -hT -x usbfs -x tmpfs          and not have all the unneeded lines of output that way, so you can just paste that one line of output instead
[02:33] <caner> i am using ubuntu 7.10 and it cannot automount usb devices (mouse,flash memory etc.) once they are plugged. but if thr device is already plugged while the system starts then it can detect and mount (or use.). where is the problem??
[02:33] <xobius> at0myx,  for example you can move the home, var an use that space
[02:33] <crdlb> floatingredwagon: metacity --replace ?
[02:33] <crdlb> ah oops
[02:34] <gotamatw> The examples there are for i386 architecture. I need for AMD 64. Is there any difference. Lexmark printer z600
[02:34] <neo_linux_noob> /dev/sda2     ext3     25G   13G   11G  54% /
[02:34] <neo_linux_noob> lol i really am a noob
[02:34] <at0myx> xobius:  hmmm.  I was just hoping to have it all in one.  So my only options are to do a dangerous resize or rearrange my files?
[02:34] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, don't worry, most of the people in this channel probably never knew you could do that ;)
[02:35] <khermans> gotamatw, should be similar
[02:35] <xobius> at0myx, No is very esay an better
[02:35] <neo_linux_noob> lol ;-)
[02:35] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid: Do you know how to fix my problem>?
[02:35] <ector> khermans?
[02:35] <at0myx> xobius:  no to which option?
[02:35] <ector> shrek?
[02:35] <khermans> ector, ?
[02:35] <Nicolaidis> hello...do someone know cairo-dock?
[02:35] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, what is your problem?  I was just passing through this channel and saw that little part, and that's all...
[02:35] <khermans> Nicolaidis, kibadock ?
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> Does anyone know a solution to get past the error above?
[02:36] <ector> it stopped at 59.606968
[02:36] <Nicolaidis> no, cairo-dock
[02:36] <xobius> at0myx,  because if you move the home, whe it is full the system continue working
[02:36] <ector> i removed the quiet and the splash
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid: GDM could not write your authorization file .
[02:36] <khermans> ector, now press 'b'
[02:36] <floatingredwagon> now that it's running right ... how do i open compiz/beryl options?
[02:36] <khermans> ESC then 'b'
[02:36] <ector> i did
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> This
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> could mean that you are out of disk space or that your
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> home directory could not be opened for writing .
[02:36] <ector> i did
[02:36] <ector> and it stopped again
[02:36] <khermans> ector, it boots?
[02:36] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, okay, well you're not out of disk space
[02:36] <tab> how do you install git on ubuntu?
[02:37] <gotamatw> When I tried ./z600, I don't get any answer. just bash: ./z600: No such file or directory
[02:37] <khermans> ector, but now you see error messaes?
[02:37] <ector> no it does'nt
[02:37] <neo_linux_noob> ok
[02:37] <khermans> ector, just hangs?
[02:37] <ector> no error messages... it just stopped at some 59.606968 line
[02:37] <ector> yes
[02:37] <at0myx> xobius:  ok.  i guess I dont have much choice
[02:37] <khermans> ector, what PC is this?
[02:37] <xobius> at0myx, the partitions are used for optimize the space of hd
[02:37] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, so do this:    mount | grep sda2          and paste the output here
[02:37] <ector> pentium IV
[02:37] <ector> 1mg
[02:37] <Nicolaidis> i need plug-ins for cairo-dock...can someone help me?
[02:37] <ector> intel processor
[02:37] <khermans> ector, what model machine?
[02:38] <khermans> ector, or home buit?
[02:38] <yummymummy>  it is defaulting to nstalled ubuntu and i cant manually by the screen resolution program change the screen res to x
[02:38] <ector> it's a clon?
[02:38] <ector> built
[02:38] <khermans> ector, hrm
[02:38] <ector> a clone, we call it here
[02:38] <khermans> ector, mobo?
[02:38] <ector> hrm?
[02:38] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid:  /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:38] <khermans> ector, if it is a clone, could be bad hw design
[02:38] <ector> i went to a store and said: "this hard disc, that video adapter"
[02:38] <khermans> ector, try booting knoppix
[02:38] <ector> oh, god
[02:38] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, hmm, so how are you logged in and typing these commands, exactly?
[02:38] <xobius> at0myx,  here there is an example http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/partitioning-p1.xml?style=printable
[02:38] <ector> knoppix wont boot.. i've already tried it
[02:38] <yell0w_> hey guys, which channel is the one for ubuntu on macs ?
[02:38] <ector> knoppix, slax, freeduc, gOS
[02:39] <khermans> ector, sounds like an issue with the hadrare
[02:39] <ector> yes...
[02:39] <khermans> ector, try updating the BIOS?
[02:39] <ector> i have an nvidia GE force
[02:39] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid: I am logged in as 'root' in Gnome.
[02:39] <ector> could that be the problem?
[02:39] <khermans> remove all periphials and move foward
[02:39] <xobius> at0myx, is for gentoo, but workin in ubuntu too
[02:39] <ector> how do i update the BIOS?
[02:39] <khermans> ector, until you can boot
[02:39] <Task> Can someone help me with btnx? I assign the keys to the bouse but for some reason it still doesnt detect the different keys I set it to in my game (Counter Strike)
[02:39] <astro76> !rootirc | neo_linux_noob
[02:39] <ubotu> neo_linux_noob: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[02:39] <khermans> !bios | ector
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, okay, so you can log in, just not with your normal user account, right?
[02:39] <ector> ajah
[02:40] <yell0w_> hey guys, which channel is the one for ubuntu on macs ?
[02:40] <neo_linux_noob> right
[02:40] <frew> The lib32ncurses5_5.6+20071224-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb package (current one on hardy) doesn't seem to contain libncurses.* in it (it's not anywhere in data.tar.gz if I open up the deb). Is this a bug or am I overlooking something?
[02:40] <khermans> ector, updating bios is off topic here
[02:40] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, and ubotu is right
[02:40] <neo_linux_noob> right
[02:40] <astro76> yell0w_, #ubuntu-ppc I think
[02:40] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, what irc client are you using?
[02:40] <neo_linux_noob> gnome
[02:40] <bazhang> yell0w_: yeah thats the one iirc
[02:40] <shaft0> If I create a software raid5 array in Gutsy using 2x500gb drives that are empty, and I have 7x500gb drives on a windows box, can i transfer 1 of the windows drives to the RAID array, then format to ext3, and then add that drive to the array, and do the same with the rest of the disks to create a no-data-lost raid5 array?
[02:40] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, no, the name of the irc program?
[02:40] <ector> i see... that means we can not talk about it?
[02:40] <yell0w_> tx bazhang  astro76
[02:40] <yummymummy>  i just installed ubuntu and i cant manually by the screen resolution program change the screen res to 1024 x 768 and it is defaulting to 1600 x 1200 or whatever the biggest size is its confuseing and wont let me change it so as i allready use ubuntu on mu actual computer ( this is my wifes) i thought i may be able to change the x11 xorg.conf file and so i opened it bu tthere is no screen size its got a dpms spot butthat is not it i thought so any advic
[02:40] <astro76> yell0w_, #ubuntu-powerpc
[02:40] <Tonren> I know this is a Kubuntu question, but I figured I'd ask in here too:
[02:41] <tribaldata> Guys anything better then wireless assistant that you could recommend ?
[02:41] <Tonren> Can anyone explain the error I'm getting in k3b when I try to burn a DVD ISO image?  http://rafb.net/p/ZAVGB065.html
[02:41] <Oli``> Anybody know a good, simple, GUI-based video transcoding tool (eg converting uncompressed avi to xvid, or xvid to flv, etc)
[02:41] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, it'll probably be in help->about on the window
[02:41] <khermans> shadowxp, try with dmraid
[02:41] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, anyway, probably better to not actually say it in here
[02:41] <Tonren> Oli``: Try googling "tovid"
[02:41] <khermans> shaft0, ^^
[02:41] <Task> Can someone help me with btnx? I assign the keys to the bouse but for some reason it still doesnt detect the different keys I set it to in my game (Counter Strike)
[02:41] <xobius> Oli``, perhaps konverter
[02:41] <khermans> shaft0, man dmraid
[02:41] <neo_linux_noob> xchat-gnome
[02:41] <ector> on thing is for sure... i won't be able to install the drivers if i can not boot, is taht true?
[02:41] <jocke> What is the difference between universe and the other one?
[02:41] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, but try typing that name (in all lowercase) in the shell, and hitting tab to see if it autocompletes to something
[02:41] <Task> Can someone help me with btnx? I assign the keys to the mouse but for some reason it still doesnt detect the different keys I set it to in my game (Counter Strike)*
[02:41] <Oli``> Tonren: I've got tovid installed actually... lol
[02:41] <Azrael> hi guys...I have a camcorder and I've been trying to get 7.10 to import/capture video from the device, and keep getting this "the IEEE 1394 Subsystem is not responding"...please help and advise
[02:42] <Oli``> xobius: I'll give it a look, thank you
[02:42] <khermans> jocke, universe are free license where multiverse is restricted somehow
[02:42] <yummymummy> !universe
[02:42] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid: I have done that
[02:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:42] <ector> so i should not worry about the graphic adapter and focus in something else...
[02:42] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, if it does, then exit this irc session and then run    sudo ircprogramname        whatever ircprogramname is right for the program
[02:42] <jocke> khermans, but isn't there another one also?
[02:42] <yummymummy> !multiverse
[02:42] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, er,    sudo yourusername ircprogramname
[02:42] <khermans> jocke, main restricted universe multiverse
[02:42] <khermans> an partner
[02:42] <jocke> which is free but not universe
[02:42] <jocke> aha
[02:42] <jocke> main
[02:42] <khermans> jocke, main
[02:42] <Oli``> Tonren: yeah tovid is all about converting to DVD
[02:42] <jocke> what is the difference between main and universe then
[02:42] <khermans> restrcited is like 10 packages
[02:43] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, er,    sudo -u yourusername ircprogramname
[02:43] <khermans> jocke, main is fully supported
[02:43] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, heh, that last one
[02:43] <Tonren> Oli``: Ooh.  Sorry... just threw it out there.
[02:43] <at0myx> xobius:  I don't understand.  I thought /home, /etc, /bin, bla bla bla are all ONE partition.  this page is saying /home is its own partition
[02:43] <neo_linux_noob> g2g bbl
[02:43] <danfg> i'm trying to remove sendmail with aptitude purge sendmail and aptitude is failing with "FATAL -> Failed to fork."
[02:43] <jocke> fully supported?
[02:43] <floatingredwagon> how do I open Compiz Config Settings Manager?
[02:43] <khermans> at0myx, they can if you want
[02:43] <Oli``> Tonren: yeah no probs. thanks for your input
[02:43] <yummymummy> !compiz
[02:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:43] <shaft0> khermans: MDADM won't do it?
[02:43] <NiteFire> anyone know a good IDE for C++ to develope for Gutsy Gibson ?
[02:43] <khermans> shaft0, mdadm is for soft raid
[02:44] <solid_liquid> NiteFire, kdevelop, eclipse, anjuta
[02:44] <khermans> shaft0, if that what you have then fine
[02:44] <shaft0> khermans: i'm wanting to do a software raid
[02:44] <khermans> shaft0, then yes, man mdadm :-)
[02:44] <PaulEycks> <NiteFire, Use Eclipse
[02:44] <shaft0> i have it all printed out, :P
[02:44] <at0myx> khermans:  the page is implying they are normally on their own partitions.  But when I install ubuntu for example, all those directories are in the drive called filesystem.  Isn't that all one partition?
[02:44] <shaft0> just haven't read through the whole thing, just checking I can add to the array without losing data
[02:44] <shaft0> yes/no?
[02:45] <NiteFire> Solid: do you have a preference ?
[02:45] <khermans> at0myx, by default ubuntu doesnt separate those directories on separate partitioins
[02:45] <khermans> shaft0, perhaps
[02:45] <chealdo> dudes can we use kopete in ubuntu gibbon? i like to use it bcoz it has webcam support than the default messenger pidgin
[02:45] <ector> how do i uninstall ubuntu and its partition?
[02:45] <xobius> at0myx, Often-modified files contribute heavily to fragmentation. One of the best ways to contain fragmentation is to store often-modified files on their own partition.
[02:45] <khermans> chealdo, aptitude install kopete
[02:45] <khermans> ector, uninstall?
[02:45] <solid_liquid> NiteFire, everyone has their own pref, personally I use vim, others use emacs, and those who must have a regular IDE use one of those I listed, or even something else
[02:45] <ector> yep
[02:45] <khermans> ector, just write over it
[02:46] <at0myx> khermans: oh ok.  I thought I lost all sense for a moment.
[02:46] <xobius> at0myx,  look at this http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/partitioning-p2.xml?style=printable
[02:46] <ector> the partition?
[02:46] <shaft0> perhaps? what leads to the maybe aspect of the question?
[02:46] <astro76> ector, you don't really uninstall, just install another OS over top
[02:46] <solid_liquid> NiteFire, if you really want more advice on it, you can always ask in ##linux-coders
[02:46] <chealdo> khermans, but no voice yet right?
[02:46] <shaft0> like, what would make it work/not work?
[02:46] <khermans> chealdo, voice?
[02:46] <ector> i come here to windows and then write over it?
[02:46] <chealdo> i mean voice chat
[02:46] <NiteFire> thankyou I will go there
[02:46] <solid_liquid> NiteFire, but you're probably going to want to try out a few for yourself, to see what you like best
[02:46] <ector> but i can not make any linux distribution work on this pc...
[02:46] <khermans> chealdo, i use ekiga
[02:46] <dmakalsky> Hi, how do I set up video conf with MS netmeeting clients?
[02:46] <ector> so i need to free that space
[02:47] <khermans> dmacnutt, ouch
[02:47] <at0myx> xobius:  I understand now.  I guess I will not try and resize the partition and just move /home
[02:47] <chealdo> khermans, does ekiga supports yhoo messenger?
[02:47] <khermans> dmakalsky, heh maybe not so easy
[02:47] <khermans> chealdo, pidgin does
[02:47] <xobius> at0myx, the home or any other directory
[02:47] <dmakalsky> khermans, so let me generalize
[02:47] <dmakalsky> forget netmeeting
[02:47] <khermans> chealdo, i use gizmo for voip
[02:47] <at0myx> xobius:  well, whichever is needed.
[02:47] <dmakalsky> how do I just video conf with windows folks
[02:47] <chealdo> khermans, so gizmo can call yahoo
[02:48] <khermans> dmacnutt, ekiga *might* work, not sure
[02:48] <astro76> dmakalsky, gizmo client is available for both windows and linux
[02:48] <xobius> at0myx, so you will use that space witnout change the root partition
[02:48] <khermans> chealdo, gizmo is a paid vpip service
[02:48] <astro76> gizmo is free IP to IP though
[02:48] <ector> and how do i uninstall that grug thing?
[02:48] <astro76> free video cht
[02:48] <dmakalsky> astro76, and it does cross platform video chat?
[02:48] <at0myx> yep.  sounds like the best plan.
[02:48] <John[1]> hello, can someone see what is wrong with this code http://pastie.caboo.se/134284.....it is saying that the array subscript i tried to access is not there....but i dont see how.
[02:49] <astro76> dmakalsky, yes
[02:49] <chealdo> khermans, well i might use kopete rather than anything else yet for chatting hope they dev for voice chat
[02:49] <khermans> dmakalsky, i believe ekiga is the best there is
[02:49] <at0myx> XOBIUS, KHERMANS:  thanks for the help.  I appreciate it.
[02:49] <chealdo> khermans, ekiga supports voice and webcam?
[02:49] <xobius> at0myx, I think that is the best solution, but if you want do , do it
[02:49] <khermans> at0myx, np
[02:49] <khermans> !ekiga | chealdo
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ekiga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <dmakalsky> khermans, so how does the windows user use ekiga?
[02:50] <xobius> at0myx, thanks
[02:50] <khermans> dmakalsky, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekiga
[02:50] <ogre>  hey guys, im pretty new to linux i am on ubuntu gutsy and am having trouble getting a certain .conkyrc to work and was wondering if anyone could help. I have a patebin of errors, my conkyrc and links to a screenshot of what its supposed to look like. here it is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3230/
[02:50] <chealdo> khermans, ok i'll try but does ekiga has installer for windows?
[02:50] <khermans> chealdo, yes and works with netmeeting supposedly
[02:51] <chealdo> khermans, ok tnx very much for the info
[02:51] <khermans> chealdo, np
[02:51] <ector> i get it now... i have both windows and ubuntu on my pc... how do i uninstall ubuntu without affecting windowsXP?
[02:52] <khermans> ector, fdisk /mbr
[02:52] <truna> ector why not remove xp instead?
[02:52] <ramza3> anybody know where I can return firefox, I want my money back
[02:52] <khermans> ramza3, !!
[02:52] <chealdo> khermans, oh another thing do you have idea on how to rdesktop my wife computer in her office?
[02:52] <khermans> ramza3, talk to netscape
[02:52] <ector> because ubuntu is not booting... that's what i wanted to: remove XP... but it seems it wont work with ubuntu
[02:52] <khermans> chealdo, yes, rdesktop
[02:52] <ramza3> khermans, well at least FF2+.  I want 1+ back
[02:52] <truna> aol will stop support of netscape come february
[02:53] <khermans> ramza3, you can donload it
[02:53] <frankrizz> for #sudo apt-get install libsdl-stretch-dev
[02:53] <chealdo> khermans, can i connect it thru web caonnection?
[02:53] <frankrizz> I keep getting errors
[02:53] <khermans> chealdo, yes
[02:53] <frankrizz> how do i install this
[02:53] <th0r> ramza3 download the 3 beta....it is much better than 2
[02:53] <ector> khermans, that fdisk /mbr where do i write it? windows command line?
[02:53] <khermans> chealdo, over RDP, if thats what you mean
[02:53] <ramza3> th0r, yea, but the adobe flash plugin is still broken.  It is better though.  I will need to check out FF Beta 2
[02:53] <chealdo> khermans, what do you think i'll dial to her ip add or the brodcast ad
[02:54] <khermans> chealdo, perhaps, or open the port
[02:54] <th0r> ramza3 well...I am running suse on the laptop and flash works there. Using ubuntu for the server....no need for flash
[02:54] <Task> Can someone help me with btnx? I assign the keys to the mouse but for some reason it still doesnt detect the different keys I set it to in my game (Counter Strike)*
[02:55] <ogre>  hey guys, im pretty new to linux i am on ubuntu gutsy and am having trouble getting a certain .conkyrc to work and was wondering if anyone could help. I have a patebin of errors, my conkyrc and links to a screenshot of what its supposed to look like. here it is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3230/
[02:55] <chealdo> khermans, shes using XP and she wants to fix something.but what i know XP has remote connection thing but thats somehow another story
[02:55] <zcat[1]> Moo!
[02:55] <ogre> oops sorry for reposting so soon
[02:55] <xtas> this nvidia driver install is more difficult than I thought ;)
[02:56] <zcat[1]> xtas: really?
[02:56] <xtas> well kinda ;)
[02:56] <Task> lol
[02:56] <Task> try ATI
[02:56] <khermans> chealdo, try something like webex
[02:56] <ector> i can not see the partition in windows so i can not format it and ubuntu is not booting so i can not see it... how can i recover this space?
[02:56]  * Task sold my ATI card
[02:56] <chealdo> khermans, hehehe your bc attending some querries ha
[02:56] <xtas> Task: I've tried ati once before and managed to get it work
[02:56] <khermans> ector, boot into ubuntu live cd, delete ubuntu partition, and resize ntfs
[02:57] <ector> ubuntu live cd halts too...
[02:57] <khermans> ector, how did you ever install linux?
[02:57] <ector> unless i can do that in the first screen
[02:57] <ector> with the alternate ubuntu cd
[02:57] <ector> it was just a text mode
[02:57] <chealdo> khermans, ok i'll check the ekiga and webex
[02:57] <khermans> ector, windows disk manager can delete it too
[02:58] <Moduliz0r> hi, what would I use to transfer files to/from another ubuntu computer on the LAN?
[02:58] <khermans> ector, why dont you like ubuntu?
[02:58] <ector> believeme, i've walked a long way to install it with no success :'(
[02:58] <truna> Moduliz0r, scp
[02:58] <zcat[1]> I really hate answering 'how do I uninstall Linux' questions
[02:58] <Moduliz0r> without having to do magic configs
[02:58] <khermans> Moduliz0r, nfs / ssh ?
[02:58] <ector> windows disk manager cant see the partition
[02:58] <Moduliz0r> needs to be really quick
[02:58] <truna> Moduliz0r, scp
[02:58] <xtas> If glxgears says Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:58] <xtas>  that means I don't have driver installed right ? :-D
[02:58] <khermans> ector, it cant interpret the partitition, but surely it can delte it
[02:58] <Traveler20> what's ubuntu?
[02:58] <Moduliz0r> truna: doesn't scp need ssh to be installed on the remote host?
[02:58] <jtholmes> Moduliz0r, rsync
[02:59] <khermans> xtas, need 3d driver
[02:59] <khermans> !ubuntu | Traveler20
[02:59] <ubotu> Traveler20: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:59] <truna> Moduliz0r, yours have ssh loaded?
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> i like scp but the remote host doesnt want ssh installed
[02:59] <IdleOne> !ubuntu | Traveler20
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> I don't mind installing it on mine
[02:59] <khermans> Moduliz0r, yes
[02:59] <khermans> Moduliz0r, then nfs, ftp, etc
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> argh
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> anything that doesn't need to have a config written?
[02:59] <truna> Moduliz0r, they are on same lan?
[02:59] <khermans> Moduliz0r, web server?
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> yes
[03:00] <ector> yes, but i don't get to see anything that looks like a partition here in windows... it just shows my hard disk like nothing's happening, but only with 30gb less
[03:00] <Moduliz0r> khermans: web servers need nasty configs
[03:00] <khermans> ector, do you know how to use the windows disk manager?
[03:00] <truna> Moduliz0r, you can use netcat create a simple server..one line command
[03:00] <ector> those 30GB are missing now
[03:00] <Moduliz0r> how?
[03:00] <khermans> it is not in my computer dude
[03:00] <ector> how?
[03:00] <cyphase> how much RAM does Xubuntu need?
[03:00] <om_> j #help
[03:00] <truna> Moduliz0r, google for  netcat one line command server
[03:00] <ector> where is it? i mean... in My PC every thing looks normal... do you mean another aplication?
[03:01] <Moduliz0r> k
[03:01] <khermans> ector, right-click "manage"
[03:01] <khermans> on my compyuter
[03:01] <khermans> go to disk snapin
[03:01] <khermans> mmc
[03:01] <khermans> this is off topic for ubuntu
[03:01]  * khermans tires...
[03:02] <ector> ok khermans... tyou :)
[03:02] <khermans> ector, np
[03:02] <IdleOne> !nickspam | mike-huckabee
[03:02] <ubotu> mike-huckabee: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy 666245 c
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy 868268 h
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <ector> thnx kherman... i hope i can manage to install ubuntu when i get another less problematic computer
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <khermans> ector, np
[03:03] <truna> Moduliz0r, http://www.stearns.org/doc/nc-intro.current.html
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <crdlb> !ops | JJHardy
[03:03] <ubotu> JJHardy: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <Moduliz0r> thanks
[03:05] <koloa> hey help?!?!?!?!
[03:05] <|ns|nR8> hooh
[03:05] <xtas> I think glx drivers are now installed when I get over 7000FPS in glxgears.
[03:05] <koloa> anyone have chroot setup on ubuntu feisty?
[03:05] <Ryuki> Hmm.. it don't fix
[03:05] <rbs-tito> IdleOne: Sorry, a running joke in ##ronpaul !!
[03:05] <Ryuki> oh well what is the channel for Xubuntu again?
[03:06] <rbs-tito> #xubuntu
[03:06] <koloa> anyone? i keep getting /bin/bash no such file exists....=(
[03:06] <facted> hey everyone, just installed Gutsy, and my speakers were working well...but after a failed restart from "suspend mode" where I had to press ctrl-alt-del to get out of the restart, the speakers are no longer working
[03:06] <koloa> yet they do exist in chroot folder.
[03:06] <facted> does anyone know how I can reinstall the speaker "drivers" so to speak?
[03:07] <facted> the audio is on-board
[03:07] <IdleOne> !sound
[03:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:07] <facted> thanks a lot (alsa is selected...checked that already)
[03:07] <facted> what is !sound?
[03:08] <rbs-tito> koloa: Try making a symlink in /usr/bin to wherever you have bash installed
[03:08] <tribaldata> facted: trigger to have info on something specific
[03:08] <koloa> rbs-tito, i do
[03:08] <facted> gotcha
[03:08] <rbs-tito> koloa: Did you delete bash or something?
[03:08] <koloa> rbs-tito, i used this script http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5942
[03:08] <PurpZeY> You can delete bash?
[03:09] <PurpZeY> !nickchange
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickchange - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <koloa> rbs-tito, bash exists....i tried chaning the landing folder of the user, but no avail
[03:09] <Beetle_> Hey guys I downloaded and installed a game called angband from the repositories however it doesn't show up anywhere under "Applications" is it bugged or do I need to do something?
[03:09] <rbs-tito> koloa: I'm not going to advise you on that sorry, I'm not confident enough not to break it further!
[03:10] <khermans> Beetle_, run from command line
[03:10] <tribaldata> facted: so what your trouble again ?
[03:10] <Beetle_> khermans thanks
[03:10] <koloa> rbs-tito, thanks..
[03:10] <koloa> rbs-tito, i will look further, i think other folks are experiencing similiar
[03:12] <nrdb> how do I find out what version of ubuntu I am running ?
[03:13] <jtholmes> nrdb cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:13] <nrdb> jtholmes: thanks
[03:14] <jtholmes> nrdb sure
[03:15] <nrdb> I am running 6.06 and I need to upgrade to 7.10, I have backed up the /home and /etc directories.  what is the best way to do this ?
[03:15] <disc> I went to install 3dDesktop and apt-get says there is no such package....has it been removed from the repositories?
[03:15] <PurpZeY> nrdb: You have to walk upwards.
[03:16] <jtholmes> nrdb if i am not mistaken you have to first upgrade to 7.04 then 7.10 if i am wrong someone will correct me
[03:16] <disc> nrdb, you have to upgrade to 6.10, 7.04, and then 7.10
[03:16] <jtholmes> ah, yes 6.10 slipped in there
[03:16] <nrdb> PurpZeY: by doing    gksu “update-manager -c ”   several times ?
[03:16] <facted> reinstalled the sound component and it works great now :) thanks for the help
[03:16] <FrostRat> won't the next LTS release let you upgrade to it from 6.06?
[03:17] <PurpZeY> !upgrade
[03:17] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:17] <disc> so no one has an answer to my 3ddesktop question?
[03:17] <navetz> can somebody help me fix this: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:17] <navetz> thats what i get when i type alsamixer into a terminal
[03:17] <panoman> this is a dumb question
[03:18] <disc> panoman, ????
[03:18] <navetz> ... if its dumb is it easy to fix?
[03:18] <disc> panoman, my question or navetz question?
[03:18] <panoman> how do I change the permision on www file
[03:18] <disc> panoman, man chmod
[03:18] <panoman> my question
[03:19] <disc> panoman, chmod is the command you use to change permissions, or you can right click the file in the file browser and select preferences and there's a permissions tab
[03:19] <disc> panoman, er, properties
[03:19] <FrostRat> nrdb: I keep my /home on a separate partition, so when I want to upgrade, I just wipe / and install whatever I want there... and point to my /home during installation.  Works like a charm every time.
[03:20] <disc> FrostRat, that's a good idea :-P
[03:20] <panoman> checkin it out
[03:20] <disc> so NO ONE knows the answer to my question? The wiki says it's in the repos but the command says it isn't....
[03:21] <FrostRat> disc: yeah, keep it in mind the next time you decide to play around with partitions.  I've even jumped between Debian Etch, two versions of Ubuntu with the same /home partition.
[03:21] <nrdb> FrostRat: could I resize my main partition copy over the /home then just install 7.10 ?
[03:21] <jellulabo> Hi everyone. How do I get compiz to stop making windows 'stick' to the edges of the screen?
[03:22] <sCOTTo> hey guys - i am installing xubuntu as i have an OLD computer here with 128 MB memory - using the live cdrom - what params do i need to use to install Xubuntu instead of normal ubuntu?
[03:22] <Flannel> nrdb: yes, although the copying is a different command
[03:22] <Flannel> sCOTTo: You need to have the Xubuntu liveCD
[03:22] <th0r> sCOTTo and that live cd really needs 192MB min if I recall correctly
[03:22] <Flannel> nrdb: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[03:23] <FrostRat> nrdb: I'm too tired to get my head around what you're talking about... if you've got /home backed up and are absolutely sure you aren't going to lose anything, you could always wipe your ubuntu partition (assuming you've got / and /home on one drive)
[03:23] <Kevin`> use the alternate install cd on low ram
[03:23] <th0r> sCOTTo you would probably be better off installing from the Alternate CD and installing xfce from there as wm
[03:23] <sCOTTo> i DID download the iso for the Xubuntu
[03:23] <Flannel> sCOTTo: then you're installing Xubuntu currently
[03:23] <FrostRat> nrdb: and then make two partitions... I leave 15GB for / (overkill) and the rest for /home
[03:23] <Flannel> sCOTTo: or rather, the installer on there will install Xubuntu
[03:23] <sCOTTo> it says Ubuntu 7.10
[03:23] <sCOTTo> is that right?
[03:24] <Flannel> sCOTTo: Where does it say that?
[03:24] <th0r> sCOTTo yes...that is right
[03:24] <sCOTTo> F1 Help index.
[03:24] <xtas> mm, installing world of warcraft on 7.10. wish me luck :)
[03:24] <nrdb> FrostRat: I think I will do that, I will save hours of downloads.
[03:24] <FrostRat> nrdb: then when you're all installed, just copy your /home into the freshly installed /home
[03:24] <mneptok> xtas: good luck finding a girlfriend. :)
[03:24] <sCOTTo> do i use the live-expert option?
[03:24] <th0r> sCOTTo it is installing Ubuntu 7.10 with xfce as a window manager (hence the'x'ubuntu
[03:24] <FrostRat> nrdb: you'll just need to reinstall any programs from repos/other places
[03:24] <xtas> mneptok:  :D
[03:24] <xtas> haha, almost dropped from chair
[03:24] <PurpZeY> nrdb: Yeah, it won't save stuff you compiled obviously
[03:24] <sCOTTo> th0r, thanks for the explination :)
[03:25] <disc> FrostRat, I'm trying to install a program from repos that the wiki says is there but apt-get says it isn't.......
[03:25] <sCOTTo> th0r, so i use the live-expert setting?
[03:25] <PurpZeY> disc: What package?
[03:25] <FrostRat> nrdb: you might have missing icons or stuff like that until you get everything installed again (if you've got custom taskbars like gdesklets or whatever)
[03:25] <nrdb> PurpZeY: I know, this is fairly basic install, just have to be careful with the printer drivers.
[03:25] <disc> PurpZeY, 3ddesktop
[03:25] <FrostRat> disc: which program?  sorry, just got here and didn't see your post
[03:25] <th0r> sCOTTo if you do...you need to tell it how to partition the disk. If it boots into the desktop just click on the Install icon...but I don't know if it will with only 128M ram
[03:25] <disc> FrostRat, 3ddesktop
[03:25] <th0r> sCOTTo I installed on 192M and it was really marginal
[03:26] <FrostRat> did you try searching for it by running Synaptic?
[03:26] <disc> yep
[03:26] <happygnuyear> i dont see 3ddesktop in the repos
[03:26] <sCOTTo> th0r, thats fine i know enough to install it through expert
[03:26] <disc> neither do I......but the wiki says it's there....
[03:26] <PurpZeY> disc: Your sure you are not looking for compiz or something of that nature?
[03:26] <th0r> sCOTTo then go for it...should be ok
[03:26] <FrostRat> disc: I remember seeing it... maybe it's not in gutsy... is that what you're running?
[03:26] <sCOTTo> th0r, I already have the other small dist but it is too minimal - i cant get wireless networking to work in it :(
[03:26] <disc> PurpZeY, very sure..... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/3ddesktopHowto
[03:27] <sCOTTo> fluxubuntu
[03:27] <disc> FrostRat, yep, Gusty
[03:27] <ljsmithx> I'm back and thought I should give it another shot... How do I install avant?
[03:27] <th0r> sCOTTo I use xubuntu for my server, and use xfce as wm in suse on my laptop as well...think you will be impressed. and it is much more efficient than gnome or kde
[03:27] <FrostRat> disc: I don't see it... just did a "sudo apt-cache search 3ddesktop" and it didn't come up... maybe it was only in feisty, then dropped from repos
[03:28] <PurpZeY> disc: You have to add the repos
[03:28] <panoman> the properties says I am not the owner
[03:28] <curiogeo> I have a peculiar issue where admin users can use the sound but unprivileged users cannot.
[03:28] <PurpZeY> FrostRat: I found it in the repos.
[03:28] <sCOTTo> th0r, the system i am installing it to is 600MHz with 128 MB memory - it is for my wife to edit joomla templates and some small website grafix as well as mail and stuff.... will it be ok do you think (being more knowing in these matters then i would)
[03:29] <curiogeo> anyone know how to change the permissions and make them stick
[03:29] <sCOTTo> 250GB hdd
[03:29] <PurpZeY> disc: You need universe repo
[03:29] <facted> Is there any way to change the mouse scroll speed (to increase it, in my case) using a MSFT wireless optical mouse 2.0? (I've searched and cannot find anything)
[03:29] <panoman> how do I change to root
[03:29] <disc> PurpZeY, got the universe repo
[03:29] <RedAlien_> Is there a french Ubuntu Channel?
[03:29] <sCOTTo> panoman 'sudo su <enter>
[03:29] <happygnuyear> panoman do chown -hR
[03:29] <PurpZeY> disc: Are you running gutsy?
[03:29] <disc> yep
[03:29] <PurpZeY> disc: Then why do you need this?
[03:29] <facted> I know in windows as well, you can change the scroll acceleration as well, which would be awesome if it's possible
[03:30] <curiogeo> I sent sudo chmod a+rwx /dev/dsp and it worked until I rebooted
[03:30] <happygnuyear> panoman, or sudo -i
[03:30] <disc> PurpZeY, what do you mean?
[03:30] <FrostRat> PurpZeY: I've got universe, but can't see it... you're running gutsy, too?
[03:30] <PurpZeY> FrostRat: I'm not, I'm in feisty
[03:30] <disc> PurpZeY, I can't get the desktop features to work....
[03:30] <th0r> sCOTTo once you get it installed I think it will run ok. The problem is that the livecd runs totally out of ram...I don't know if 128M will be enough. But worth a try. If not, you can install off the alternate cd...just make sure you install xfce as a window manager.
[03:30] <PurpZeY> disc: What does this do, desktop cube is built into gutsy
[03:30] <FrostRat> disc: looks like it was dropped after feisty
[03:30] <sCOTTo> th0r, whats the alternate cd?
[03:30] <th0r> sCOTTo my server is 433MHz with 192M ram and 40G hd, and xubuntu runs fine
[03:31] <disc> PurpZeY, I can't get the desktop effects in Gusty to work
[03:31] <sCOTTo> Balaams_Miracle, nice name
[03:31] <th0r> sCOTTo the alternate CD starts in a text mode installer instead of the graphic installer or desktop.
[03:31] <PurpZeY> disc: I think I'd try to fix that rather than this work around
[03:31] <happygnuyear> curiogeo, goto users and groups and add yourself to the audio group possibly
[03:31] <FrostRat> disc: I don't know what 3ddesktop does, but it's probably replaced by compiz
[03:31] <sCOTTo> can i make this cd go to text mode?
[03:31] <sCOTTo> th0r, can i make this cd go to text mode?
[03:31] <Balaams_Miracle> sCOTTo: Thanks :-)
[03:31] <disc> FrostRat, you're running Gusty?
[03:31] <th0r> sCOTTo don't think so...you need to download the alternate cd if I'm not mistaken
[03:31] <sCOTTo> Balaams_Miracle, where ever did you get such a name ;)
[03:32] <disc> fros
[03:32] <disc> er...
[03:32] <sCOTTo> ok cool
[03:32] <Balaams_Miracle> sCOTTo: That's a long story. Best go to my website and read all about it :-)
[03:32] <PurpZeY> disc: Why can't you use compiz?
[03:32] <curiogeo> happygnuyear I will try it
[03:32] <FrostRat> disc: yep, gutsy... but I don't bother with any 3d stuff... I even use the generic nvidia driver. :D
[03:32] <jagerman> Hi, can anyone tell me whether dealing with ATI onboard graphics (a 690G chipset) is a pain in the ass, i.e. should I try to buy nvidia or intel instead if possible?
[03:33] <disc> PurpZeY, I try to enable the desktop effects, the screen blacks out, comes back, black out, comes back, and then a pop-up saying that I can't enable the desktop effects
[03:33] <zcat[1]> 3ddesktop is a really cheezy and inefficient version of the compiz cube...
[03:33] <disc> but I'm running an older machine
[03:33] <PurpZeY> jagerman: I believe nvidia is supposed to be the same as ATI....but, I think it will still be easier to use nvidia
[03:33] <sCOTTo> Balaams_Miracle, and the site address is: ??
[03:33] <PurpZeY> disc: Maybe this is a message that your machine can't run 3d cube
[03:33] <jagerman> PurpZeY: I mainly care about how "it just works" it is, as it isn't my computer.
[03:34] <disc> I've still got a PIII 733Mhz and 364mb ram, with a Legacy nVidia card.....
[03:34] <zcat[1]> disc: what video card?
[03:34] <PurpZeY> jagerman: IMO nvidia is your better choice then....Best bet is to check the supported hardware list, get a card on the list, guaranteed to work
[03:34] <disc> nVidia Vanta NV6
[03:34] <zcat[1]> disc: legacy like MX440 or legacy like tnt2 ?
[03:34] <sCOTTo> th0r,  ok install started il be bacl after when its done :)
[03:35] <disc> zcat[1], legacy like Vanta NV6
[03:35] <sCOTTo> Balaams_Miracle, nice meeting you - mine is www.faithcomputing.com.au
[03:35] <zcat[1]> disc: yeah, that's toooooo legacy.
[03:35]  * sCOTTo waves to the crowd of smarter people...
[03:35] <sCOTTo> goners
[03:35] <jagerman> PurpZeY: Where is that list?
[03:35] <PurpZeY> !hardware | jagerman
[03:35] <ubotu> jagerman: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:35] <Balaams_Miracle> sCOTTo: See your PM
[03:35] <jagerman> Thanks
[03:35] <mneptok> jagerman: is this an add-in, or a mobo decision?
[03:36] <zcat[1]> disc: anything before about a geforce2 (mx440 chipset) won't do compiz...
[03:36] <FrostRat> disc: it's none of my business, but if you ask around, somebody's got to have a newer 3d card hanging around that they aren't using... I'm sure you can get your hands on a decent one (for free, probably!)
[03:36] <disc> FrostRat, would my motherboard support a video card upgrade?
[03:36] <pawan> hi
[03:37] <crazy181> hey guys any idea why my install is locking up, i am thinking it may be related to my ati 7500m video card
[03:37] <mneptok> disc: you probably have an AGP slot, so yes.
[03:37] <RedAlien_> I just installed aterm and it doesn't appear in my application menu, how can I get it there?
[03:37] <jagerman> mneptok: A motherboard decision.
[03:37] <mneptok> jagerman: Intel
[03:37] <PurpZeY> crazy181: Describe "locking up"
[03:37] <disc> Only thing I've ever upgraded is my sound card....and I took out my winmodem
[03:37] <crazy181> hard locking it is just freezing up
[03:37] <mneptok> jagerman: Intel graphics, by far, are your best bet in current incarnations of the Linux kernel.
[03:37] <disc> but I've since upgraded to DSL, so no need for a modem anymore
[03:38] <PurpZeY> crazy181: At what point in the setup?
[03:38] <jagerman> mneptok: I can't find any Intel boards with DVI, though.
[03:38] <fantum13> Hello, I'm using the Alternate Install Disc for amd64, and the partitioner is hanging on "starting up the paritioner" at 50%. Is this a known bug, or am I using a "bad" cd?
[03:38] <mneptok> jagerman: you in the US?
[03:38] <jagerman> No, Canada.
[03:38] <crazy181> it installed fine it is locking on the desktop
[03:38] <FrostRat> disc: if you have an AGP slot, you're in luck... if not, you should be able to find a 128MB PCI card that'll give you a boost
[03:38] <zcat[1]> mneptok: actually I've found that intel video isn't that great..
[03:38] <mneptok> jagerman: oh, nice, hiya from Montreal.
[03:38] <joerlend> is it possible to flip the screen 90 degrees?
[03:38] <mneptok> zcat[1]: it is from my chair. ;)
[03:38] <PurpZeY> crazy181: Sounds like a video card issue, so, you've got it installed but you can't access desktop?
[03:39] <zcat[1]> what chipset?
[03:39] <disc> FrostRat, Difference between AGP slot and PCI slot?
[03:39] <mneptok> jagerman: you loking at a Core2Duo board?
[03:39] <jagerman> mneptok: Yes
[03:39] <disc> FrostRat, Keep in mind my motherboard is an HP from 200
[03:39] <mneptok> jagerman: sec.
[03:39] <disc> FrostRat, er, 2000
[03:39] <FrostRat> disc: I'm sure you can find a picture somewhere... it's really hard to describe... :D
[03:39] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> This is probably one of the most commonly asked questions, but I am having trouble finding something that works:  I just got a new monitor.  Was a CRT at 1024x768.  I now have a Viewsonic LCD at 1680x1050.  I cannot seem to make Xorg use 1680x1050, and I cannot seem to make it show up in my screen resolution menu.  Any suggestions?
[03:39] <joerlend> FrostRat: you can get really cool new vgs
[03:39] <jagerman> mneptok: One that supports 1333 bus
[03:39] <foug> is there a way to mass delete id3 tags with ubuntu?
[03:39] <joerlend> FrostRat: for agp.
[03:39] <PurpZeY> !fixres | Em3raldMcSquizzy
[03:39] <ubotu> Em3raldMcSquizzy: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:40] <disc> FrostRat, been so long since I've been a real computer nerd....still know more than you're average idiot though :-)
[03:40] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: have you heard of a program called exfalso?
[03:40] <crazy181> everything works fine but after a short period usualy while draging or minimising windows the system freezes, i have tried turning the visual effects to minimal and it still locks
[03:40] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: negative
[03:40] <zcat[1]> I'd love to be running purely open-source as much as possible, but various onboard i915 chipsets just haven't been very good running compiz..
[03:40] <FrostRat> disc: I'm still running an AMD 1200, not sure which year it's from... but it's old.  I'm running with openbox and stuff, so I don't need to upgrade yet. :D
[03:40] <mrdigital> my grub menu is broken can someone assist me in rebuilng it
[03:40] <shadowxp> oh, heres a question, i can't seem to make my resolution go above 800x600, and i am using a nvidia 7950 GT OC w/ 512 mb of ram, i've tried making it use the NVidia drivers but X doesn't seem to want to
[03:40] <shadowxp> my Monitor's max res is 1440x900
[03:40] <disc> Well, alright, thanks everyone, I appreciate the help and advice
[03:40] <disc> For know, farewell and goodnight
[03:40] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: thahx ... I think I have tried that one, but I will look again.  foug it may not be precisely what you want, but you might like it.  It's an easy tag editor that is intelligently written.  Sudo aptitude install exfalso
[03:40] <FrostRat> Em3raldMcSquizzy: great program for editing tags... if you like it, Quod Libet is a great player that goes along with it
[03:41] <PurpZeY> crazy181: How much tweaking have you done, it sounds like you are possibly using the wrong driver and since this is a fresh install using dpkg reconfigure might help.
[03:41] <FrostRat> disc: have a good one
[03:41] <zcat[1]> If I could go buy an intel-based AGP card that I knew worked, I would seriously consider it.
[03:41] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: allready downloading it (: i need to delete tags off about 1,000 songs
[03:41] <disc> FrostRat, You too, hope you have a happy new year ;-)
[03:41] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: will it let me delete them all at the smae time?
[03:41] <jagerman> mneptok: So far, the best choice looks like a nvidia 1750/630i board, but I'd be happier indeed with an Intel chipset.
[03:41] <crazy181> ok ill give it a go thanyou
[03:41] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: you can multiselect, then just delete them :D
[03:41] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: if you doubleclick on a directory in the program, it automatically selects all mp3s in that folder.
[03:42] <LADoctor> Hi, I would like to create a system with a linux and a virtual machine on it,  which linux would be recomended
[03:42] <FrostRat> foug: it's really intuitive... it's saved me lots of time
[03:42] <exile> omg i think i messed up bad
[03:42] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> FrostRat: thanx for the advice, I will try out that player.
[03:42] <PurpZeY> LADoctor: Ubuntu?
[03:42] <LADoctor> thanks
[03:42] <slashzul> hey people
[03:42] <mneptok> jagerman: looks like TigerDirect has no Intel DVI boards :(
[03:43] <slashzul> what app do you use for podcasts clients?
[03:43] <mneptok> jagerman: and, sadly, you can only get Intel grfx onboard
[03:43] <FrostRat> Em3raldMcSquizzy: it's got tons of plugins, does pretty much everything... not quite as nice looking as amarok, but seems to be lighter on resources
[03:43] <PurpZeY> jagerman: I think you'll be fine if you just do your research first
[03:43] <iblicf> hi , if i can do 'sudo cp -af /  /mnt/ub' to move my system to another patition , yeah , i know need to change /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab
[03:43] <happygnuyear> goto madtux.com - they have nvidia ones with dvi
[03:44] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: Okay, that's the help page I already tried.  The auto script gives me no help (screen comes back "out of range").  I tried the second method (horiz rate, etc), and no errors, but no change in resolution.
[03:44] <jagerman> mneptok: I found *one* on NCIX, for an older chipset.  They also sell an adaptor that hooks into the PCIex slot and gives you DVI output, but it costs almost $30, and a whole discrete cheapo nvidia card is barely any more.
[03:44] <peepsalot> i'm no longer able to load firefox.  I click the icon and it does nothing
[03:44] <foug> FrostRat: Em3raldMcSquizzy: it seems to not pick up on the id3 tags, the remove button is greyed out
[03:44] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: You can try to edit xorg manually...just make sure to back it up
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: It looks like I got the router problem solved...   Replaced the D-Link with something that cost more than $15 that the D-Link did.
[03:44] <foug> FrostRat: Em3raldMcSquizzy nevermind i'm slow
[03:44] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: hmm ... do you have mp3s selected?  And if so, you have to click on specific tags
[03:44] <tuntun> !flashbroken
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashbroken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: heheh okay
[03:45] <tuntun> !flash
[03:45] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:45] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:45] <jagerman> PurpZeY: I'm quite happy with nvidia myself, but I'm a debian user with lots of linux experience.  This computer is for someone else.
[03:45] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: seems i have to highlight the tags themselves, can't mass delete tags
[03:45] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: yeah, that's what I did with the horiz rates and stuff (I've done this before, a long time ago).
[03:45] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: How many tags on your files?
[03:45] <exile> i acciedently moved the little home folder link that was on my gnome desktop onto a usb drive, and it wont let me move it back. now it's doing wierd things when i try to copy other files to the drive.
[03:45] <peepsalot> i think my hard drive is going bad, or got corrupted during a hard power off
[03:45] <jtholmes> peepsalot,  ps -eaf |grep firefox    see if it is running
[03:45] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: just id3, artist, album, comment etc
[03:45] <PurpZeY> jagerman: I'm saying, I've configured to Nvidia's for people...if you make sure ubuntu supports the card, you won't run into any issue, at least, I don't thinks o
[03:46] <peepsalot> jtholmes, not running
[03:46] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: yeah, so no mass-delete, but if you click on each tag and then delete (don't forget to hit save!!) then you should be good to go
[03:46] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: wait, i figured it out, lol
[03:46] <mneptok> foug: editing tags?
[03:46] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: you can mass delete ;P like i said, I am slow, haha
[03:46] <foug> mneptok: yes, mass deleting id3 tags with exfalso
[03:46] <mneptok> foug: sudo apt-get install easytag
[03:46] <mneptok> foug: EasyTag is the tool you want,
[03:46] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: well there you go!  You are already better at using the app than me :P
[03:46] <jtholmes> peepsalot,  execute  /usr/bin/firefox  see if it comes up
[03:47] <foug> mneptok: i will download and try that as well, thanks all of you!
[03:47] <Vlper2002> hey has anyone dual booted here from a Dell PC originally running windows? I have never worked with partitions before and it looks like I have three that Dell created
[03:47] <Vlper2002> how could I dual boot from this?
[03:47] <peepsalot> my computer gets locked up sometimes and I have to cut the power, then when I restart it has to run fsck, and it says there are UNexpected Inconsistencies or something, and that I have to run fsck manually, and all this crap
[03:47] <mikubuntu> heeellllllpppp.  my last session ended up so BAD.  this thing has been happening with my cursor, where it starts wandering slowly northeast accross the screen, and as the session lengthens it goes ever faster and faster untill i can't even stop it long enough to fix on a link... is this some kind of malware or maliscious attack, or a known issue?
[03:47] <mneptok> foug: i have an *insanely* large mp3 collection, and won't use anything but EasyTag.
[03:47] <foug> mneptok: lol, how large might i ask?
[03:47] <jtholmes> peepsalot, do you know how to boot single user and run fsck
[03:48] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: thanx for the help.  I will continue mucking about and see what I can do.
[03:48] <mneptok> foug: 41,000 mp3s
[03:48] <foug> mneptok: DANG, what kind of music?
[03:48] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> mneptok: that's about the same as my collection ;)
[03:48] <rd> yo yo need some quick assistance::: is there any command that tells you what flavor of linux a server is running?
[03:48] <jagerman> Vlper2002: I remember something like that from long ago on my Dell notebook: ISTR one is the special Dell tools for checking your comp, and one is the Windows recovery partition they give you instead of giving you a Windows CD.
[03:48] <peepsalot> jtholmes, no
[03:48] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Editing it manually is the best I can think of....maybe just me
[03:48] <mneptok> foug: all kinds. like, ALL kinds.
[03:48] <jtholmes> peepsalot, are u nu to linux
[03:48] <mneptok> rd: lsb_release -a
[03:48] <foug> mneptok: cool
[03:48] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: yeah, me too.  I'll see if maybe I forgot something simple.  tis usually the way it is :D
[03:48] <peepsalot> jtholmes, not really
[03:48] <PurpZeY> rd: Yo yo lsb_release -a
[03:49] <mikubuntu> mneptok: you have $41k tied up in music? :)
[03:49] <mneptok> PurpZeY: werd. smoov lsb_release tip.
[03:49] <jaime> hello everyone
[03:49] <Vlper2002> jagerman: I figured one was windows since they didn't give me a CD, could I delete two of them to make my linux installation easier? (I have never done this by the way)
[03:49] <FrostRat> mneptok: not a bad collection!!! :D
[03:49] <jaime> i have a quetion
[03:49] <peepsalot> jtholmes, in my grub there is a "recovery mode" is that single user?
[03:49] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> mikubuntu: ... yes ... that's right ... umm ... yeah, $41000 ... :P
[03:49] <jaime> how do i install adept from ad/remove application?
[03:49] <jtholmes> peepsalot, ok then boot into recovery mode  and  e2fsck /dev/hd?  or /dev/sd?  which ever type of hard drive shows in  df -k
[03:49] <PurpZeY> mneptok: Laying on my side...hard to beat you when you so fast
[03:50] <crazy181> What driver should i be using for a Radeon Mobility 7500?
[03:50] <peepsalot> jtholmes, also, i have Logical volumes, don't know if that makes a big diff
[03:50] <jagerman> Vlper2002: You *could*, I suppose, if you don't care about ever reinstalling Windows
[03:50] <crdlb> crazy181: 'ati'
[03:50] <umer> hey guys
[03:50] <jtholmes> peepsalot, as root user
[03:50] <crdlb> crazy181: also known as 'radeon'
[03:50] <jaime> can someone help me on installing adept manager in gnome?
[03:50] <jagerman> Vlper2002: Or you could just take the plunge and delete the Windows partition ;)
[03:50] <Vlper2002> jagerman: the only reason I say that is because all the tutorials I read seem to say that I should only start with one partition
[03:50] <jtholmes> peepsalot, havent worked with logicals may be different scenario
[03:50] <mikubuntu> heeellllllpppp.  my last session ended up so BAD.  this thing has been happening with my cursor, where it starts wandering slowly northeast accross the screen, and as the session lengthens it goes ever faster and faster untill i can't even stop it long enough to fix on a link... is this some kind of malware or maliscious attack, or a known issue?
[03:51] <Vlper2002> jagerman: ha, yeah I am not yet that confident, but maybe it will come to that hehe
[03:51] <crazy181> lol yeah just wanted to make sure cos the default install was using a different ati driver
[03:51] <rd> yo yo lsb_release didnt' work
[03:51] <rd> so i guess its not a linux flavor
[03:51] <rd> maybe freebsd?
[03:51] <rd> how can I tell?
[03:51] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: That is rather unique....Maybe your mouse is broken?
[03:51] <jtholmes> peepsalot, ask here how to  fsck  logical volumes in single user mode
[03:51] <mikubuntu> this is driving me crazy. in a few mins i won't be able to navigate anything
[03:51] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: hey, is there a way to force xorg to default to a specific *higher* resolution?
[03:51] <crdlb> crazy181: there's only one driver (excluding vesa and such) that supports your card
[03:51] <jtholmes> peepsalot, i dont know how to do that
[03:52] <umer> i need some help with vnc, i'm trying to access my downstairs desktop from my laptop, i can access it via vnc while im logged into my account on the desktop, but when the desktop is at the gdm screen, i cant, on the desktop i enabled remote login by going to system>admin>login window>remote
[03:52] <peepsalot> i wish my job would just give me a new laptop, this one is a POS
[03:52] <jagerman> rd: I don't have lsb_release on my debian system.  All that means is that it isn't a lsb-compliant system.
[03:52] <umer> but i dont know what to do next
[03:52] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: I don't know about default, but I know that you can add rez and then go into system and change to them
[03:52] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> mikubuntu: strange.  I would think it's probably just a setting you need to change.
[03:52] <happygnuyear> mikubuntu, sounds like one of your keys is stuck :P
[03:52] <jagerman> Linux *Standard* Base is just wishful thinking
[03:52] <hniceman> nokia help
[03:52] <mikubuntu> PurpZeY: no, cause its a laptop, and it happens with touchpad or with usb mouse hooked up.
[03:52] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: so is it the best way to just add a resolution to xorg.conf, restart xorg, then try to select the res?  Or is there a better way?
[03:52] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: have you tried installing qsynaptics?
[03:52] <jagerman> rd: What does uname -a give you?
[03:52] <umer> when i try connecting like normal with terminal service client, i cant using the vnc protocol, and the xdmcp protocol is greyed out
[03:52] <peepsalot> i think I'll just say the hard drive is dying and try to convince them to finally get me a new compy
[03:53] <umer> id appreciate any help i can get
[03:53] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: I don't know if that's the best, that's just what I'd do...but like I said, make sure to back up xorg
[03:53] <jaime> guys when i select adept manager in add/remove applications it says the list of applications is not avaibabe, click on reload to load it, to reload the list you need a working internet connection, and well there is no reload button but refresh and that refresh still don't let me select it, i'll do it over and over
[03:53] <mikubuntu> PurpZeY: whats qsynaptics
[03:53] <jaime> applly changes doesn't bold up
[03:53] <mneptok> rd: uname -a
[03:53] <hniceman> what channel do i get for nokia apps
[03:53] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: heheh yeah I know.  But it never hurts to beat that one to death.  *always back up your xorg.conf*  <--- for everyone elses benefit ;)
[03:53] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: Well, it depends if you have a synaptics or ALPS touchpad, but if it's synaptics it can control the touchpad
[03:53] <jagerman> rd: Also try ls /etc/*{version,release}*
[03:53] <mneptok> hniceman: try #maemo
[03:54] <crazy181> this is what device manager is reporting my card as, Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[03:54] <hniceman> cheers
[03:54] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: The few of us idiots who made that mistake once...;)
[03:54] <mikubuntu> PurpZeY: how do i tell?
[03:54] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: I was one of those ... like 3 years ago ;)
[03:54] <jaime> can somebody help me please
[03:54] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: What laptop?
[03:54] <PurpZeY> !ask | jaime
[03:54] <ubotu> jaime: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:54] <peepsalot> is fsck the only way to check if a HDD is bad?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Here is one I like to give out..    cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/Desktop/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[03:55] <jaime> i just did
[03:55] <xtas> I want to copu from /media/hdb all contents to /home/xtas/Desktop/WOW but it needs to overwrite some files but I get acces denied when I do it by mouse from window manager. what to do?
[03:55] <jaime> people annoying me
[03:55] <mikubuntu> purpzey, dell d600
[03:55] <jaime> scroll up
[03:55] <rd> but doens't say what linux its using
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo > xtas
[03:55] <mikubuntu> PurpZeY: dell d600
[03:55] <jaime>  guys when i select adept manager in add/remove applications it says the list of applications is not avaibabe, click on reload to load it, to reload the list you need a working internet connection, and well there is no reload button but refresh and that refresh still don't let me select it, i'll do it over and over
[03:55] <Vlper2002> alright, easy question:: I just downloaded ubuntu. It is in ISO format. What is the correct way to burn that sucker to a CD so I can just pop it into a different computer and install??
[03:56] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: that's fantastic advice!  Mind you, if someone has to boot to console, finding the ~/Desktop might not be as simple for brand new users.
[03:56] <Kevin`> Vlper2002 k3b should handle it correctly, or cdrecord file.iso
[03:56] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: It appears that is an ALPS touchpad, e.g. qsynaptics won't do anything
[03:56] <xtas> Jack_Sparrow: would you please give me the whole line? sudo cp /media/hdb/*.* /home/xtas/desktop/WOW/ or what
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Vlper2002: If in windows you can try isorecorder freeware...
[03:56] <Vlper2002> Jack_Sparrow: thx
[03:56] <PurpZeY> Vlper2002: There are instructions right on the download page
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> xtas: I have them copy it to a usb if they have it...  a cd if not
[03:56] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: kay I am gonna restart xorg. wish me luck :D
[03:57] <n6hgg> vlper2002, what burning software do you have?
[03:57] <daryl_> hello
[03:57] <xtas> uhm
[03:57] <FrostRat> later everybody, take it easy
[03:57] <Vlper2002> n6hgg: hehe good question, none yet
[03:57] <forsaken> is there a way to get the default xubuntu inside of the normal ubuntu install? (just instaling xfce4?)
[03:57] <PurpZeY> Vlper2002: Just download the software on that page
[03:57] <Vlper2002> PurpZey: thanks
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> xtas: I have cmd lines for all the basic system files...  If you liked that, you will love this one..  sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt
[03:57] <n6hgg> Okay, alot of burning software will burn an iso to cd, and afterward you have a working disk.
[03:57] <PurpZeY> forsaken: Just install xubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <jagerman> mneptok: It's an "ADD2" card you have to add to get DVI.  How lame. :(
[03:57] <rhinovirus> #
[03:58] <mikubuntu> viper2002, did you download live cd, or alt install?
[03:58] <xtas> Theres no point telling me that when I DONT understand it at all :)
[03:58] <xtas> i'll go for google then
[03:58] <Kevin`> Jack_Sparrow sfdisk -d more useful
[03:58] <mikubuntu> viper, if you are definitely going to install, the alt install is a better option
[03:58] <mneptok> jagerman: that's pathetic.
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Kevin`: there are lots of good ones..
[03:59] <RedAlien_> How can I list ALL running process on my linux box?
[03:59] <mneptok> jagerman: let's go burn Intel down.
[03:59] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: Why?
[03:59] <mneptok> RedAlien_: ps aux
[03:59] <mikubuntu> have you already run ubuntu live?
[03:59] <PurpZeY> RedAlien_: ps aux
[03:59] <PurpZeY> mneptok: AGAIN! grr
[03:59] <Kevin`> the livecd is rather slow compared to a hard disk install
[04:00] <jagerman> TOO SLOW ;)
[04:00] <jagerman> Uh oh, my day changed.
[04:00] <PurpZeY> The liveCD is good for first install....just my thought....Only takes 30 minutes
[04:00] <RedAlien_> mneptok, PurpZeY is there any command to give me more process because something is wrong with ps aux. Top tells me that 8M are free and ps aux tells me that I use something like 5% of my RAM!!
[04:01] <jagerman> RedAlien_:
[04:01] <camokat> hello
[04:01] <mneptok> RedAlien_: if you want tyo know about memory usage, use "free -m"
[04:01] <jagerman> free
[04:01] <jagerman> oops
[04:01] <Vlper2002> PurpZey: do you know where on the ubuntu page an ISO burner is located?
[04:01] <mneptok> RedAlien_: what does that tell you?
[04:01] <mneptok> Vlper2002: it's built in
[04:01] <jagerman> RedAlien_: "free" is not exactly what you think it is.
[04:01] <cali_love22> hey
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Vlper2002: Are you doing this from windows or linux?
[04:01] <PurpZeY> Vlper2002: It's on the page after you download hte ISO...if you closed that, just go back and click "cancel" on the download
[04:01] <mneptok> Vlper2002: right-click the .iso and look at the context menu
[04:01] <Vlper2002> mneptok: windows xp
[04:02] <Vlper2002> err
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:02] <Vlper2002> Jack_Sparrow: windows
[04:02] <mneptok> Vlper2002: http://cdburnerxp.se
[04:02] <jagerman> RedAlien_: Linux uses free memory to cache the disk, which it throws away as soon as a process needs more memory
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Vlper2002: Make sure you get the right isorecorder for your service pack version.
[04:02] <RedAlien_> jagerman, is there a way to clean up ram?
[04:02] <PurpZeY> Vlper2002: I'll repeat myself at that risk, but like I said, if you just go back to the ISO download page, it will give you freeware to burn it and instructions
[04:02] <camokat> I have a problem where Ubuntu is stuck loading at "failed to set xfermode", so I found this: http://fak3r.com/2007/06/22/failed-to-set-xfermode-solved/ It seems to work, but every time I reboot the irqpoll parameter is removed. How can I persist it?
[04:03] <RedAlien_> I mean, just use what is needed... No disk caching?
[04:03] <mneptok> RedAlien_: stop worrying about it.
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> PurpZeY: What freeware are they linking now?
[04:03] <jagerman> RedAlien_: You wouldn't want to.  But look at the "-/+ buffers/cache" numbers in free's output
[04:03] <Vlper2002> PurpZey: gotcha, I found it thanks
[04:03] <camokat> I also tried to add irqpoll to /boot/grub/menu.list but when I update grub line gets removed?
[04:03] <mneptok> RedAlien_: Linux is *far* better at memory management than you are. no offense.
[04:03] <Oli``> lol
[04:03] <PurpZeY> Jack_Sparrow: Not sure, haven't done it in a while...but when I did it was rather easy
[04:03] <jagerman> RedAlien_: *Those* used/free numbers are closer to what you are looking for
[04:03] <camokat> can someone help please?
[04:04] <RedAlien_> jagerman, yes =)
[04:04] <demon_spork> is there a problem with the gutsy flash plugin?
[04:04] <RedAlien_> Thank you jagerman =P
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> demon_spork: Yes
[04:04] <Oli``> demon_spork: several
[04:04] <xobius> camokat, what's your problem?
[04:04] <PurpZeY> demon_spork: Yes
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[04:04] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:05] <mneptok> RedAlien_: welcome to Linux. we don't ask you to babysit your computer with your teeth clenched. sit back and drive, son. :)
[04:05]  * jagerman hates flash
[04:05] <camokat> xobius, I have a problem where Ubuntu is stuck loading at "failed to set xfermode", so I found this: http://fak3r.com/2007/06/22/failed-to-set-xfermode-solved/ It seems to work, but every time I reboot the irqpoll parameter is removed. How can I persist it?
[04:05] <RedAlien_> =D
[04:05] <demon_spork> yes I need to fix it immediately, it is messing wid my youtube watching
[04:05] <demon_spork> lel
[04:05] <PurpZeY> demon_spork: There are fixes. . .Read above
[04:05] <Oli``> camokat: patience is a virtue. somebody will help you when they can
[04:06] <demon_spork> I know
[04:06] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: strangely, xorg accepts 1440x900, but will not take 1680x1050 (the native res).  Any thoughts?
[04:06] <camokat> Oli``, ok, waiting...
[04:06] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: As in, it won't show up as a choice?
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> demon_spork: Make a backup just in case the true released fix conflicts with the temo fix
[04:06] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: in fact, 1680x1050 won't even show up in the menu either.  I don't understand why.  PurpZeYcorrect.
[04:06] <demon_spork> join
[04:06] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: My math is rather fuzzy, is that the correct aspect ratio?
[04:07] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> yup
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Sounds like the onitor rates were never entered correctly
[04:07] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Sounds like Jack_Sparrow is on to something
[04:07] <xobius> camokat,  the update-grup change the parameter?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Common problem
[04:07] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: if I enter the rates, it just gives me an over-range.  but they are from the specs from the website.
[04:07] <iano> if i run gnome with compiz, everything looks proper, but is very slow and will crash. if i remove compiz, i lose the borders on all the windows. how do i fix this?
[04:07] <camokat> xobius, no, removes it
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> e3m
[04:08] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> iano: I think you need to start metacity
[04:08] <PurpZeY> iano: Change your windows manager from compiz to metacity
[04:08] <camokat> should I put defoptions=quite splash irqpoll as the last line in menu.list?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: So you know where the problem is...  it definately has to do with those rates and how you are entering them
[04:08] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Hi, is there a way i can get kubuntu without reinstalling ubuntu?  I have festy right now but wanted to try kubuntu.
[04:08] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: is the command something like metacity -replace for that?
[04:08] <iano> i have metacity installed, how do i change my window manager? at login, instead of choosing GNOME?
[04:08] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Methinks so, yes.
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> iano: Ask in #compiz
[04:08] <FDI> PurpZeY: i'm impressed
[04:09] <xobius> camokat, could you pastebin your menu.lst?
[04:09] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: hmm.  Okay, I will see what I can find.  Perhaps I have the wrong info.
[04:09] <PurpZeY> iano: You'll still be using GNOME
[04:09] <happygnuyear> Psyco_Chipmunk, install kubuntu-desktop
[04:09] <PurpZeY> FDI: I wouldn't be, I'm really not that good
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> iano: Gnome is a desktop NOT a window manager
[04:09] <Senrac> Has anyone got Alltel PC5750 EVDO to work in ubuntu?
[04:09] <Psyco_Chipmunk> happygnuyear,  whats the terminal command?
[04:09] <PurpZeY> iano: I agree though #compiz is really a better place for that issue
[04:10] <PurpZeY> !anyone | Senrac
[04:10] <ubotu> Senrac: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:10] <happygnuyear> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[04:10] <linux_> does anyone know about  encrypted high anonymous proxy server
[04:10] <neo_> can ubuntu join my domain?
[04:10] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: this is from the website:  Frequency	Fh: 24~82kHz, Fv: 50~75Hz ... so I would have 	HorizSync          24-82 and VertRefresh        50-75 right?
[04:10] <PurpZeY> They are highly anonymous and encrypted
[04:10] <Oli``> linux_: tor?
[04:10] <camokat> xobius, http://pastebin.com/m309a6fbd
[04:10] <exile> how do i turn off all the compiz stuff?
[04:10] <Senrac> I would like to start using ubuntu as my main OS
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: yep  post your xorg to the pastebin for someone to look it over
[04:11] <PurpZeY> exile: System --> ....Also ask in #compiz for all related issues
[04:11] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: okay :D
[04:11] <Oli``> exile: right click the desktop, click change background, click the visual effects and select none
[04:11] <avalys> does HTTP BASIC authentication truncate passwords to 8 characters?
[04:11] <avalys> I have restricted access to a site using AuthType Basic, AuthUserFile, and Require valid-user
[04:11] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> !pastebin | Em3raldMcSquizzy
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> linux_: THis is not the channel for that topic
[04:11] <avalys> however, I am allowed into that portion of the site if I type only the first 8 characters of my 9-character password.  typing the whole thing works as well.  anyone know what the problem is?
[04:11] <linux_> does that support  encryption
[04:12] <exile> thank you
[04:12] <neo_> can ubuntu join my domain?
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> avalys: It is their site not checking past 8
[04:12] <avalys> Jack_Sparrow: this is my site.
[04:12] <avalys> Jack_Sparrow: running on Ubuntu server
[04:12] <Psyco_Chipmunk> does anyone know the terminal command to install kubuntu?
[04:12] <avalys> Jack_Sparrow: I would like to know how to get my site to check the whole thing
[04:13] <sub[t]rnl> Psyco_Chipmunk➜ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <PurpZeY> Psyco_Chipmunk: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <avalys> Jack_Sparrow: I am using Apache's built-in authentication, it is not an application
[04:13] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50564/   .... I don't think you are going to find anything special, but I welcome any comments :D
[04:13] <jagerman> avalys: If your htpasswd uses crypt() passwords, then yes, they are only 8-character significant.
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> avalys: I dont know...
[04:13] <jagerman> avalys: But instead, you should use htpasswd -m, which uses md5-crypt passwords
[04:13] <Psyco_Chipmunk> thanks!
[04:13] <Senrac> Has anyone got Alltel PC5750 EVDO to work in ubuntu?
[04:13] <neo_> can ubuntu join my domain?
[04:13] <avalys> jagerman: argh, I just found that in the man page
[04:14] <Oli``> neo_: yup
[04:14] <avalys> jagerman: why the hell is the default the less secure option
[04:14] <avalys> jagerman: okay, thanks for the help, I was freaking out for a minute
[04:14] <jagerman> avalys: Historic reasons, I suppose.
[04:14] <Psyco_Chipmunk> whats better, gnome or kde?
[04:14] <xobius> camokat, in the line 89 add that papameter
[04:14] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Psyco_Chipmunk: try #ubuntu-offtopic for that one :D
[04:14] <Oli``> neo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[04:15] <mneptok> Psyco_Chipmunk: that's a question with no answer.
[04:15] <jagerman> Psyco_Chipmunk: Depends whether your prefer mashed potatoes or fries.
[04:15] <avalys> jagerman: seeing as it has been running for a year like this protecting important data -I was worried it was a sign of a larger problem
[04:15] <Psyco_Chipmunk> i like both
[04:15] <bthornton> I've got a DVD that says "This DVD is copy protected and may be played only on licensed devices."  I suppose Linux isn't a "licensed device" because it won't play with any software that I'm aware of.  Is it possible to play this DVD with Linux?
[04:15] <Senrac> Is spyware a problem in linux?
[04:15] <jagerman> avalys: Well, crypt passwords are not terribly secure.
[04:15] <undertakingyou> I want have two users on this computer.  I would like each user to be able to see the others calendar, so we don't have to log into the other users account.  Is there a way to do this?
[04:15] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Psyco_Chipmunk: I prefer Gnome, but many prefer KDE.  there are many KDE native apps that I use in Gnome.
[04:15] <Oli``> Senrac: not really, no
[04:15] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Senrac,  no
[04:15] <camokat> xobius, ha, didn't see it there. thanks a lot, I'll try rebooting.
[04:15] <xobius> camokat, I think that update-grub don't delete it, but i don't sure
[04:16] <jagerman> Psyco_Chipmunk: Well there's your answer.
[04:16] <iano> firefox + adblock plus is pretty great
[04:16] <Psyco_Chipmunk> heh
[04:16] <iano> in linux :)
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Agreed nothing remarkable
[04:16] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> iano: I like Opera ... right-click and disable any ads :D
[04:16] <joerlend> Senrac: as long as you stick with open source software, you can feel resonably certain it doesn
[04:16] <Oli``> Firefox 3b2 is even better... Just installed it and it almost made me cry - it's that good
[04:16] <camokat> xobius, I updated grub it didn't remove it. Trying to reboot now...
[04:17] <joerlend> Senrac: doesnt contain spyware. It would be impossible to hide it.
[04:17] <iano> 3b2 is stable?
[04:17] <happygnuyear> 3b2 is not stable,
[04:17] <Oli``> everybody I've talked to says yes, and I've not had any issues in the few hours I've been testing it
[04:17] <happygnuyear> it took my machine down when i used it
[04:17] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: I am thinking that maybe I have to find some different rates.  I'll see what I can dig up.  I have 1440x900 which is at lease widescreen.
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: As long as you stick to official repos, virii spyware and adware are not a problem...  running windows programs under wine.. not as safe...
[04:17] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Oli``: !worksforme
[04:18] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> hehe
[04:18] <avalys> jagerman: I know...freaking Apache
[04:18] <Senrac> I really want to change OS, I've had to reinstall windows xp 3 times from spyware.
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: That is what I run here
[04:18] <Oli``> iano: as usual you should back up your profile but I can't see *any* way you can nuke your system with it
[04:18] <RedAlien_> When I was on Zenwalk I had a menu for my aterm (or maybe xterm)... Anywone knows how to get it on ubuntu?
[04:18] <Senrac> Linux as a Windows emulator?
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: I dual boot, and I have XP locked down .. No internet access for it..
[04:19] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: well, it's not quite as crisp as it would be if I had it in native ... so I will keep trying.  It's a 22 inch Widescreen with 2ms latency ... sweet :D  My wife bought it for me for Christmas.
[04:19] <happygnuyear> Senrac, no more screwing with anti virus spyware programs here.
[04:19] <NMaji1> Is there a method in ubuntu to set up and ad-hoc network (not only connect to one)? (Note: I don't have the faintest clue what I'm talking about, so if I say something that makes no sense, let me know)
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow>  Em3raldMcSquizzy  agreed.. sweet...
[04:19] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Senrac: no no, Wine Is Not a Windows Emulator ;)
[04:19] <joerlend> Senrac: I can second Jack_Sparrow's suggestion. I have the same setup, and it's very nice.
[04:20] <Oli``> NMajik: wireless or wired?
[04:20] <NMajik> Oli``: Wireless
[04:20] <Senrac> I have a toshbia satellite laptop and I thought Ubuntu would be a good opition.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: It is not as convienient as vmware etc.. but much safer and hardly a bother
[04:20] <drgeb> how do I resolve this error: "mv: cannot move to a subdirectory of itself ?
[04:20] <joerlend> Senrac: what do you use windows for?
[04:20] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> NMajik: I know what you mean, I just spew semi-sensical stuff and hope I don't come off as a total dork ;)
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> drgeb: As the doctor said.. if ift hurts when you do that.. dont do it..   Running stuff in a virtual environment would be safer, as far as I can see?
[04:21] <avalys> was using the production server by mistake
[04:21] <Senrac> Can I run ebay tubro lister from wine?
[04:21] <nos> hello, everyone
[04:21] <Oli``> Em3raldMcSquizzy: I assume he means networking 2 or more machines without using an access point or router
[04:21] <camokat> xobius, thanks for your help - booting normally now. thanks!
[04:22] <Psyco_Chipmunk> I have a big problem.  When i plug in my headphones and my speakers are on, they dont turn off like they should.  How do i fix this?  bye the way, i have a lenovo n100 laptop
[04:22] <NMajik> Oli``: OK, I'll read that. Thanks. I should be able to SSH through that, right?
[04:22] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Oli``: oy ...
[04:22] <xobius> camokat, congratulations
[04:22] <Oli``> NMajik: yeah
[04:22] <joerlend> Senrac: http://appdb.winehq.org will tell you what software works and how well.
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> joerlend: Running any windows program has a degree of risk.. If a user running wine has mapped / to Z which is the default then there are lots of risks...  I keep them seperate.. no writing to the other os's partitions
[04:22] <Senrac> ok, thanks
[04:23] <Oli``> Calm down FloodBot3
[04:23] <Filled-Void> Senrac, UNFORTUNATELY WINE SAYS IT DOESNT :(
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Oli``: They are testing the bots....
[04:23] <Filled-Void> gah sry
[04:23] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[04:23] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> LOL
[04:23] <Senrac> What about graphic cards under linux? Are they supported?
[04:23] <joerlend> Jack_Sparrow: ehrm, that's what I mean. When you run in vmware, then the os doesn't have to have access to the harddisk at all, only a file.
[04:23] <joerlend> Senrac: most are.
[04:24] <Oli``> "Test to see if the bots can flip out... Check"
[04:24] <Fryguy--> are there any plans to fix NetworkManager so that it works properly with static IPs in hardy?
[04:24] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Senrac: most vidcards are supported "out of the box", and then you can get proprietary drivers for most if you want to increase video performance.
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> joerlend: a perfect example is running under wubi.. If something goes wrong in the Virtual folder it can and has trashed the ntfs drive.
[04:24] <Stonelion> (I should note I can boot into recovery mode and get the root prompt)
[04:24] <Oli``> Fryguy--: #ubuntu+1 for hardy stuff =)
[04:24] <gpm> hi guys. i don't see any text on my VCs. i can tell they are working because if i log in and try running a command, it shows up in ps, but the screen is just blank. X works fine. any clues on why this would be and how to fix it?
[04:25] <joerlend> Fryguy--: bugs are always being fixed. Search launchpad for the bug you're interested in, and you can subscribe to changes.
[04:25] <Senrac> I could always use windows xp just for turbo lister and internet use in ubuntu.
[04:25] <Fryguy--> Oli``: are there any plans on making network manager work correctly with statics in gutsy? :)
[04:25] <joerlend> Jack_Sparrow: that's not the same as running in a virtual environment.
[04:25] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Senrac: you could install your XP in a virtualbox within your LInux installation for that too, so you don';t have to reboot.
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> joerlend: I dont mean to debate the issue.. just trying to show there are issues with all configurations.
[04:26] <happygnuyear> Fryguy--, i guess you could just set /etc/network/interfaces to static
[04:26] <Filled-Void> Senrac,  what Em3raldMcSquizzy said above ^ . If you spend more time in Ubuntu you might want to try it on VirtualBox and see if it works
[04:26] <Senrac> what is virtualbox? where can I read up on it?
[04:26] <Oli``> lol Fryguy-- no idea personally but do as joerlend says and get involved with the launchpad bug submission and you'll probably be able to find out what its schedule is
[04:26] <peepsalot> when I run e2fsck, one of the last things is says is something like 200000/262000 blocks.  does that mean i have 62,000 bad blocks?
[04:26] <joerlend> Senrac: it's a virtualization solution like vmware.
[04:26] <Fryguy--> happygnuyear: yes, but I need to use networkmanager to do it so I can use vpn functionality (network-manager-pptp)
[04:27] <peepsalot> so basically 23% of my hard drive is dead?
[04:27] <joerlend> Senrac: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[04:28] <joerlend> peepsalot: that doesn't sound likely.
[04:28] <crazy181> is there a driver available for the ati rad 7500m other than the default ubuntu driver?
[04:28] <gpm> hi guys. i don't see any text on my VCs. i can tell they are working because if i log in and try running a command, it shows up in ps, but the screen is just blank. X works fine. any clues on why this would be and how to fix it?
[04:28] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: I think this might explain my problem with resolutions:  http://blog.sneal.net/Blog/Ubuntu1680x1050WithMyGeForce8600GT.aspx
[04:28] <mike__> I know there is a command for this, but I can't remember it and gave up looking, but does anyone know the command to make KDE apps look nice in GNOME after changing color schemes (I think it just copies a file to somewhere)
[04:28] <SANTAbios> can anyone please help me, i am trying to share files with another windows box from my ubuntu box, the windows box is a member of my domain, i can see my xp box from the ubuntu box, but it will not access it, any ideas?
[04:29] <Oli``> gpm: on your venture capitalists?
[04:29] <drgeb> Em3raldMcSquizzy is there a way to force the move to happen and copy just the files over ontop pf each other
[04:29] <Senrac> could I run EVDO from Virualbox?
[04:29] <joerlend> SANTAbios: how are you trying to connect?
[04:29] <Stonelion> Can anyone tell me if there is a easier wat to figure out why a live cd of ubuntu wont boot (probibly due to hardware errors) other than to try installing after pulling out all optional hardware?
[04:29] <joerlend> Senrac: you'd run the entire operating system.
[04:29] <jtholmes> peepsalot, no did it pass all 5 phases w/o errors
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: I tagged it for later. let me know if it works
[04:29] <SANTAbios> joerlend, network neighborhood in xp
[04:30] <Oli``> Stonelion: describe not booting? do you get to the first menu?
[04:30] <joerlend> Senrac: you can run almost any software inside the virtual environment, save for graphics accelerated stuff, which might not work properly.
[04:30] <Stonelion> the ububntu graphic is up and the progress bar is loading, but stops 80% of the way about... i did a text install and the problem happens when i try to boot normally on that as well
[04:30] <joerlend> SANTAbios: but you're trying to get files from windows onto ubuntu, or vice versa?
[04:30] <SANTAbios> yep
[04:31] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> drgeb: well, it's a wierd issue.  I just wanna make sure I know what the issue is.  Correct me if I am wrong.  You have folder A.  Folder B is inside folder A.  You are trying to MOVE folder A INTO folder B.  There lies the problem.  So, if this is true, then I must ask why you are trying to do that?
[04:31] <peepsalot> jtholmes, yes i think so
[04:31] <joerlend> Stonelion: note any errors.. It's impossible to guess without any concrete information.
[04:31] <wirser> I want to run the command "nvidia-settings" after X starts where would be the best place to put it?
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> drgeb: Copy it to a completely different location then back to where you want it
[04:32] <grayhane> looking for a simple day-timer prog without mail , any ideas ?
[04:32] <Senrac> Ok, let me see if I have this correct, I can install ubuntu, then install virtual box and run windows xp?
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: yes
[04:32] <SANTAbios> joerlend. when im on my xp box, and i ttype the ip of my ubuntu box, it prompts me for a password, so i type in  hostname\user then my pw, it still acts like i typed in the wrong user and pw, Any Ideas?
[04:32] <joerlend> Senrac: yes, or other operating systems.
[04:32] <Stonelion> is there a error log i can read? When i try the recover mode option on the boot i get into the root prompt, and can navigate the filesystem
[04:32] <Oli``> Stonelion: first, instead of selecting install, look down the list for a check cd item... I thought the Ubuntu CDs had a self-checker on them. Otherwise, when the install entry is selected, press F6 and remove "splash" from the boot line and you'll be able to see exactly where it stalls
[04:32] <jtholmes> peepsalot, then the disk is clean   run  e2fsck again on same device and you should get two lines of output one will have the word 'clean' in it if the disk passed
[04:32] <Senrac> sweet!
[04:32] <joerlend> SANTAbios: actually, I was just about to look into that. I
[04:32] <Stonelion> thanks
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> SANTAbios: HAve you setup user accounts on both systems with the same user name and password?
[04:33] <Stonelion> i will try it out and see what is failing
[04:33] <joerlend> SANTAbios: didn't have much luck.
[04:33] <Oli``> Stonelion: good luck
[04:33] <peepsalot> jtholmes, i ran e2fsck -c first, then I tried plain e2fsck, and it just wrote the two lines
[04:33] <Stonelion> be back if i cant get it working myself :)
[04:33] <jtholmes> peepsalot, then the disk is now clean
[04:33] <joerlend> Jack_Sparrow: I have, but still am not able to login.
[04:33] <SANTAbios> yes, i have used the samew user name for windows and ubuntu
[04:34] <joerlend> Senrac: it's really cool, and a very nice way to experiment with software.
[04:34] <peepsalot> ok i need to check the other partitions now
[04:34] <MTecknology> anyt suggestions for the most idiot proof proxy? I have ctrlproxy - but all I can figure out is how to connect to it
[04:34] <jtholmes> peepsalot, yes
[04:34] <peepsalot> jtholmes, do you know what the numbers mean?  the ratio of blocks and files it shows
[04:35] <jtholmes> peepsalot, i think it is the ratio of used to free
[04:35] <peepsalot> ah ok
[04:35] <jtholmes> peepsalot, so in your case your 23% is how much free space is left on the device
[04:35] <Aishiko> OK I've got a hardware question and I'm looking for advice, etc if anyone is up on the latest in hardware could you give me a small hand?
[04:36] <peepsalot> gotta go try again. brb
[04:36] <ari_stress> hi guys, how long/until when feisty will be supported?
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[04:36] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[04:37] <crazy181> hey guys i have a Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] is there another driver available for this card?
[04:37] <tuntun> gutsy indexes files by default yes? what application is provided to utilise it?
[04:37] <crdlb> crazy181: no.
[04:37] <crdlb> why would you want another one?
[04:37] <DragonSpirit> I installed the other mouse cursors in the repositories yet when I change the cursor theme with the mouse cursor changer it stays the same, is there something in ubuntu preventing me from doing this?
[04:37] <crdlb> (what isn't working?)
[04:37] <elde1> Aishiko: Ask your question if someone knows the answer they will reply.
[04:37] <Oli``> tuntun: tracker and beagle
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> DragonSpirit: Are you running gutsy and compiz?
[04:38] <Aishiko> OK I'm trying to decide between 2 CPUs Dual core 2.6 1MB L2 and a Quad at 2.2 512L2 and 2MB L3 paired with approiriate RAM (DDR2 800 and 1066 respectively) you know to get the best bang for the buck
[04:38] <DragonSpirit> Jack_Sparrow, yes.
[04:38] <teimu> where can i find the iconset for the default gdm theme (not on the net, but on this install)?
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> DragonSpirit: Ask for help in #Compiz  they are good at how to do that stuff.. that is where I go
[04:39] <DragonSpirit> thanks Jack_Sparrow, I'll give it a go
[04:39] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: okay, I am off to try this solution.  I will be back to let you know if it worked :D
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> I doubt I will still be here
[04:40] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> okay.  Interestingly my ctrl-alt-f* keys bring me to "out of range"
[04:40] <wirser> ok next question if I want to load a kernel module at boot where does it go  in gutsy?
[04:40] <RedAlien_> Another question : how do I set the resolution of tty1-6?
[04:41] <tuntun> is tracker the only way to searched indexed files (beagle doesn't seem to be installed by default)?
[04:41] <RedAlien_> Currently it's like if my resolution was 100X100 =S!
[04:41] <elde1> How do i get off of this irc server so that i may join another? or is possible to be on both at the same time?
[04:41] <Aishiko> wirser, that would be int he /boot directory I thing the grub file is the one you want to look at
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> wirser: try usr/share/icons/gnome   just a guess
[04:41] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> elde1 type in /join #whatevertheroomnameis
[04:41] <RedAlien_> elde1, try xchat
[04:42] <Senrac> What MUD software does linux have?
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> wirser: try usr/share/gdm/themes   just a guess
[04:42] <PanzerMKZ> Senrac what you playing?
[04:42] <Some_Person> Why doesn't Totem work in Firefox 3?
[04:42] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> MUDs rock
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Isnt firefox3 still beta?
[04:43] <jtholmes> !topic
[04:43] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[04:43] <RedAlien_> Anyone knows how to set resolution for tty1 to tty6?
[04:43] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: Yes
[04:43] <Senrac> Shadowrun, Nukeusa, and a few others
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Good enough reason for everything to not be working yet
[04:44] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, but everything except Totem seems extremely stable
[04:44] <zcat[1]> RedAlien_: in /boot/grub/menu.conf, kernel option vga=n
[04:44] <RedAlien_> thank zcat[1]
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Not something we can do anything about in here...
[04:45] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: So far, no problems on Windows or Ubuntu (except the virus I have in windows that is screwing up Windows Media Player, and Totem's incompatibility)
[04:45] <Senrac> Where can I find information on what video drivers are supported?
[04:45] <wirser> Jack_Sparrow, for the nvidia-settings or the kernel module ? i'm thinking of adding a line in some /etcfile for both questions
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Glad to hear it.. hopefully it will be ready for use in HArdy
[04:46] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: WHAT? It won't be in Ubuntu until HARDY?!
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> wirser: No idea what you were up to with that...
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: It will be ready when it is ready...  the hard core users can build it themselves
[04:47] <Some_Person> true, probably will be a repository
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Again... this is not the place for that discussion
[04:47] <Some_Person> ok
[04:47] <Some_Person> so what is?
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> See topic...
[04:48] <quinton_> Everytime I attempt to use flash the video im trying to watch does not load.
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Help and support for current release and versions.. not beta this or alpha that.
[04:48] <Senrac> is flash supported under linux?
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > quinton_
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: there is a fix.. but it is currently broken
[04:49] <quinton_> jack_sparrow, ?
[04:49] <Some_Person> Yeah, but I thought that referred to ubuntu versions, not app versions........ nevermind
[04:49] <wirser> Jack_Sparrow: simple two items I wish to load and configure a kernel module at startup then when X starts I want program "nvidia-setting" to start to adjust screen gamma
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> time for me to call it a night...   goodnight all....
[04:49] <happygnuyear> i got flash to install when i went to utube, somehow.
[04:52] <Senrac> Does Virtualbox support intel?
[04:52] <exile> is there a command to get the current kernel config?
[04:52] <elde1> does anyone know if the Mac dl for ventrilo is compatible with ubuntu 7.10
[04:53] <mfreitas> aaaaaa
[04:53] <PurpZeY> Elde: I there is some equivalent....It might run in Wine...I know plenty of WoWers need it
[04:53] <tuntun> what is the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome?
[04:53] <exile> ive tried the windows vent with gentoo
[04:54] <Dr_willis> elde1,  Mac Os is not Linux.
[04:54] <PurpZeY> exile: I believe there is a program that is an equivalent that hooks up with trilo....I don't play WoW so, I don't know for sure. Let me see if I can find it in the forums
[04:54] <elde1> Purpzey: would you suggest dling the windows client and using it via wine?
[04:55] <exile> is there a way to see the current kernel config in ubuntu so i can check some stuff?
[04:55] <cptR3D> elde1: ventrilo is in the add/remove programs for ubuntu
[04:55] <PurpZeY> cptR3D: It is?
[04:55] <exile> i'd suggest the windows client, but you need to have a file from the windows folder to make it work
[04:55] <cptR3D> PurpZeY: yep i saw it
[04:55] <cptR3D> oh wait....
[04:56] <cptR3D> that was teamspeak
[04:56] <cptR3D> !teamspeak
[04:56] <ubotu> Teamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak  For a open source alternative consider using Mumble http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
[04:56] <cptR3D> !ventrilo
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ventrilo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <exile> lol
[04:56] <PurpZeY> elde1: Teamspeak is the equivalent to ventrilo and I believe it interfaces
[04:56] <elde1> yeeaa i know. but i prefer vent lol
[04:56] <elde1> better quality
[04:57] <Aishiko> PurpZeY, teamspeak and ventrilo are different and not cross compatable
[04:57] <PurpZeY> elde1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737&highlight=Ventrilo
[04:57] <jebblue> !vmware
[04:57] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:57] <PurpZeY> Aishiko: I misspoke, and have now addressed both issue s
[04:57] <htmljunkie> hello all
[04:57] <PurpZeY> elde1: It appears trilo will run under wine, given the config I just posted to you.
[04:58] <htmljunkie> can someone explain why servers use xeons vs core 2 and what the differences are?
[04:58] <tuntun> oh man gutsy just crashed. Were are the crash logs located?
[04:59] <Wowerz> i was trying to fix the permissions of a cd bruned by a mac and messedu pt he uuid of my cdrom, is there a way to fix this ? as the backup fstab has the same uuid in it as well.
[04:59] <Wowerz> messed up the *
[04:59] <Wowerz> is there a way to manually reset the uuid of the cdrom ?
[04:59] <foson> hi
[05:00] <tuntun> *oh man gutsy just crashed. Were are the crash logs located?
[05:00] <PurpZeY> /var/log
[05:00] <DragonSpirit> thanks to who told me to go to #compiz
[05:00] <foson> anyone direct me to the mythtv project?
[05:00] <truna> WoWerz yes via udev but i dont know what the parameters are
[05:00] <PurpZeY> !mythtv
[05:00] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[05:00] <Wowerz> udev ?
[05:01] <truna> yes..man udev
[05:01] <Wowerz> man udev . ok, i'll try --help
[05:02] <foson> thanks
[05:02] <truna> or google for it..way too many options
[05:02] <htmljunkie> can someone explain why servers use xeons vs core 2 and what the differences are?
[05:02] <tuntun> whats the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome in the add/remove window?
[05:02] <PurpZeY> tuntun: I believe, xchat-gnome is specifically for the GNOME Environment
[05:03] <Pie-rat2> i have local mirrors of both the feisty and gutsy repositories. is there any way i can get my feisty box to upgrade to gutsy using those?
[05:03] <PurpZeY> Pie-rat2: I am not entirely sure I follow
[05:03] <xzased> How can I switch to runlevel3
[05:03] <Ttech> Anyone use Evolution?
[05:03] <Myrtti> PurpZeY: xchat-gnome is a version of xchat with stripped down functionality from xchat.
[05:04] <Ttech> How do you set the port for smtp email on Evolution?
[05:04] <happygnuyear> Pie-rat2, i believe it is as easy as update, upgrade, dist-upgrade
[05:04] <PurpZeY> Myrtti: Learn something new....=)
[05:04] <portablejim> What is the process 'trackerd'?
[05:04] <truna> xzased, 2,3,4 &5 are same in ubuntu  to change..telinit 3
[05:04] <Myrtti> portablejim: it indexes your files for the search applets and like
[05:05] <Pie-rat2> happygnuyear: so, do i put my gutsy mirrors in sources.list, update, and tell it to dist-upgrade?
[05:05] <xzased> truna Thanks so much
[05:05] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: what are you trying to do?
[05:05] <truna> xzased, you are welcome
[05:05] <portablejim> so the reason why it is hogging my CPU is because I just moved files?
[05:05] <happygnuyear> update, upgrade, and then dist-upgrade
[05:06] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: i have local apt-mirrors of all of the gutsy and feisty repositories. i want to upgrade from those
[05:06] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: that's not exactly a good idea - to edit the sources.list and do it that way
[05:06] <truna> portablejim, it probably is trying to update somekind of has or database
[05:06] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: eh. screw it, i'll just reinstall and keep my home partition intact
[05:06] <PurpZeY> Pie-rat2: That's a good way to go if you can stomach it.
[05:06] <portablejim> I have moved files, so it would be re-finding the files that I moved?
[05:07] <ogre> what do i have to install to ket kde going? in trying to switch from gnome
[05:07] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: I don't know how the "update-manager -c" checks it
[05:07] <tuntun> is Tracker the only default way of searching indexed files?
[05:07] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: but that's the correct way of doing the normal update
[05:07] <PurpZeY> tuntun: Beagle
[05:07] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: i wonder how many GB of packages i have...
[05:07] <happygnuyear> Pie-rat2, there may be some gconf stuff that may not update correctly though.  and you may want to let the system recreate your gnome settings
[05:08] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: du -sh
[05:08] <tuntun> Beagle doesn't seem to be installed by default
[05:08] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: the graphical tool is scanning it now
[05:08] <PurpZeY> tuntun: I don't think it's default
[05:08] <PurpZeY> tuntun: In fact, I know it isn't.
[05:08] <Oli``> my bad, tuntun
[05:08] <tuntun> so just tracker?
[05:08] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: enough that it's taking disk usage analyzer over a minute to scan it
[05:09] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: i need another HDD for a RAID0
[05:09] <Myrtti> well, graphical tools are in general slower than cli ones
[05:09] <Myrtti> so nothing new there
[05:10] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: i doubt its that much slower, it probably just uses du
[05:10] <ogre> how do i get kde if i have a gnome desktop?
[05:10] <mrdigital> i cant boot into ubuntu it hangs after editing the grub
[05:10] <Myrtti> ogre: depends if you want the kde apps too
[05:10] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: 67.1 GB of packages mirrored
[05:10] <Myrtti> :-/
[05:10] <ogre> Myrtti,  yeah i do
[05:11] <Myrtti> ogre: system -admin -synaptic -search "kubuntu-desktop"
[05:11] <pupa9999> hi all, a am a total noob when it comes to linux so please don't blast me whne I ask dumb questions
[05:11] <Myrtti> pupa9999: go ahead and ask
[05:11] <kote> anyone had any luck with dmraid on intel raid10?
[05:11] <PurpZeY> pupa9999: We don't do that here
[05:12]  * ste-foy kiss myrtion
[05:12] <happygnuyear> ogre, kubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <ste-foy> erf - myrtion + Myrtti
[05:12] <pupa9999> I am looking to setup a CIFS share so that my windows XP workstation can access files on my ubuntu server
[05:12] <Aishiko> ogre just use synpatc and download and install the KDE-core and assoated packages and tehn use the options on boot up to choose KDE as your prefered desktop
[05:13] <pupa9999> how do i do this. If you cant explain, please just point me to a document
[05:13] <PurpZeY> pupa9999: I've never done such a thing, but I am told samba is the way to share files that way
[05:13] <Aishiko> pupa9999, use Samba, it's decent and has graphical interfaces to make it easy on noobs
[05:13] <PurpZeY> !samba | pupa9999
[05:13] <ubotu> pupa9999: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[05:14] <pupa9999> so is SAMBA and CIFS the same thing?
[05:14] <Kevin`> samba is a program that acts as a cifs server
[05:15] <pupa9999> can ubuntu be a CIFS server without SAMBA?
[05:15] <Myrtti> no
[05:15] <happygnuyear> nfs works excellent and is the preferred way
[05:15] <PurpZeY> nfs is only local though
[05:16] <PurpZeY> Or at least, I haven't used it beyond that
[05:17] <Aishiko> pupa9999, no they are different
[05:17] <pupa9999> Aishiko what is better?
[05:18] <PurpZeY> !best | pupa9999
[05:18] <ubotu> pupa9999: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[05:18] <Aishiko> pupa9999, up to the user and what they want to to do with them
[05:18] <KiD_ChAoS> Is there a way that ubuntu can mount usb flash drives that have NOT been 'safely removed' from a windows machine. Windows has this capability and it is becoming beyond annoying
[05:18] <pupa9999> ok speed wise what is faster?
[05:19] <PurpZeY> KiD_ChAoS: My understanding is no.
[05:19] <Aishiko> pupa9999, again that depends on your hardware, LAN, and the settings on the machines
[05:19] <SonicEarth> What's up everyone?
[05:19] <KiD_ChAoS> PurpZeY, i c
[05:19] <pupa9999> ok moving on to the next question :)
[05:19] <PurpZeY> KiD_ChAoS: Have to safely remove, or in ubuntu eject
[05:20] <tuntun> I installed flashplugin-nonfree yesterday without knowing that it was broken. how long has it been a problem and when might it be fixed?
[05:20] <PurpZeY> tuntun: It is a known issue.
[05:20] <PurpZeY> tuntun: Not sure how long on either count
[05:22] <pupa9999> i have a 1TB SCSI storage array attached to my UBUNTU server. I need to create volumes on it so I can share it. One being the Volume for my windows environment. No again I am new so bare with me. Do I first need to creat the physical volume, then volume group , then the volumes within that group?
[05:22] <zero88> where are commands such as ls and cd and such located???
[05:22] <PurpZeY> zero88: located?
[05:22] <shredder_> Is it possible to view the incoming url address from the ip address sending the url?
[05:22] <zero88> purpzey ya, when i type ls, how does the terminal know what to do at that point?
[05:23] <PurpZeY> zero88: it's part of the bash shell
[05:23]  * AzMoo growls at the au mirror.
[05:23] <zero88> purpzey ah. is it expandable?
[05:23] <vbabiy_laptop> Hey Guys, where would i put a bash script to be run as soon as i have logged in to gnome
[05:23] <PurpZeY> zero88: What is it you want to do?
[05:23] <bobgill> when I run thunar --daemon from terminal, it works, but from alt+f2 (gmrun) it doesn't :?
[05:24] <zero88> purpzey, say I wanted to make my own commands.
[05:24] <PurpZeY> zero88: Then you'd need to code them and compile them.
[05:24] <AzMoo> Is it possible to select a mirror before you start your install?
[05:25] <MasterShrek> AzMoo, i think the mirror is auto picked by the timezone you select
[05:25] <xzased> Ok guys. My graphics card is driving me nuts. Its a nvidia GeForce 420 go. The driver is nvidia, but when I install it the screen goes kaput
[05:25] <zero88> purpzey ya, just your basic bash commands I assume? But how do I incorporate it with the bash shell?
[05:25] <Aishiko> pupa9999, huh? is it formated, if so they already exist and if windows is on it then I have to assume it is
[05:25] <xzased> I tried installing it from the nvidia site as well... my screen keeps dying
[05:26] <AzMoo> MasterShrek: yeah, but the au mirror is down *again*, and it breaks the install when it times out.
[05:26] <shredder_> I want to paste song url's into my new player, how do I find song url's to paste?
[05:26] <MasterShrek> AzMoo, choose a different time zone for the install, then when its done fix your time
[05:26] <PurpZeY> zero88: I'm not sure I am understanding oyu
[05:26] <xzased> any thoughts on these one
[05:27] <pupa9999> aishiko, this is a brand new storage array I attached to the ubuntu server. There is nothing on it. the only thing done to it is a hardware raid has been setup.
[05:27] <AzMoo> MasterShrek: I think it would be easier to just not configure the network after the install. It just seems odd to me that it doesn't give you the ability to put in a mirror. What if you have your own?
[05:28] <zero88> purpzey, ok. In a terminal, when I type ls, it list's the current dir's contents. If I wanted to type make my own command say lsb and have that command list the contents of a previous dir, with the command  cd .. ls, or something like that, how would i make that work
[05:28] <tuntun> hmm, how do I remove the xchat icon from the notification area?
[05:29] <MasterShrek> AzMoo, i dont know, its just how the ubuntu installer works, i would suggest at least mentioning it to the devs and see if they think its important enough to include (i think it is)
[05:29] <zero88> purpzey sorry, i cant really say what im really trying to say :)
[05:29] <PurpZeY> zero88: Sounds like you could write a bash script
[05:29] <Aishiko> then I would suggest looking for something like partaion editor to do that
[05:29] <solid_liquid> zero88, easy
[05:29] <zero88> purpzey, ya , but i only want to type lsb, instead of ./lsb or ./home/user/folder/lsb
[05:29] <solid_liquid> zero88, just do:   alias lsb='ls ..'
[05:29] <AzMoo> MasterShrek: Yeah, I think I might.
[05:30] <zero88> solid_liquid but will the command be perminant after that
[05:30] <solid_liquid> zero88, to make that permanent, put it in your ~/.bashrc file
[05:30] <pupa9999> Aishiko can it be done through the command line
[05:30] <solid_liquid> zero88, and I'd call it lsp personally, for list parent ;)
[05:30] <zero88> solid_liquid awsome thanks. and thanks purpzey for the help
[05:31] <solid_liquid> zero88, np
[05:31] <zero88> solid_liquid :)
[05:31] <Aishiko> I don't know how to but I'm sure it can be
[05:32] <solid_liquid> zero88, oh, and if you want to know where any command is located, type (for ls, for example):    which ls
[05:32] <zero88> solid_liquid  so add alias lsp='ls ..' to the end of the file?
[05:32] <solid_liquid> zero88, and you can do:     whereis ls       to find out where all pertinent files for it are
[05:32] <solid_liquid> zero88, yep, that'll work
[05:33] <zero88> solid_liquid kool
[05:33] <solid_liquid> zero88, :)
[05:33] <PurpZeY> zero88: I'd suggest asking in #bash they can help with this sort of thing, sounds like you might have other plans in mind
[05:33] <DigitalNinja> A friend just ask me about upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy. I told him just run "atp-get dist-upgrade". Is this correct?
[05:33] <zero88> purpzey what do u mean
[05:33] <solid_liquid> heheh, I like dropping a little advice in the newbie (this) channel occasionally ;)  none of this stuff it difficult ;)
[05:34] <solid_liquid> s/it/is/
[05:34] <zcat[1]> !upgrade
[05:34] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:34] <nickrud> !upgrade | DigitalNinja (that's not really the best way)
[05:34] <ubotu> DigitalNinja (that's not really the best way): please see above
[05:34] <zero88> solid_liquid how do i update the ~/.bashrc file so the command works?
[05:34] <PurpZeY> zero88: If you are doing what you simply saying to do....you can do it...just like solid_liquid says....BUT...if you intend to start messing around with bash scripts and all sorts of thing like that asking in #bash is a good idea
[05:34] <ljsmithx> How do I know what version of ubuntu I'm on???
[05:35] <timothyjackson> who here knows how to use ubuntu on Mac?
[05:35] <solid_liquid> PurpZeY, I'd go read the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide on tldp.org for that actually, zero88 ;)
[05:35] <nickrud> ljsmithx, lsb_release -a in a terminal
[05:35] <DigitalNinja> nickrud: What?
[05:35] <solid_liquid> zero88, at the shell, type:       . ~/.bashrc
[05:35] <ljsmithx> Thanks
[05:35] <PurpZeY> solid_liquid: Not a bad idea either
[05:35] <zero88> purpzey ah ok i know what you are saying. yes i will do that. solid_liquid will do, thanks for the link
[05:35] <nickrud> DigitalNinja, ubuntu's provided some tools that make sure you have a smooth upgrade, along with some advice on that page. I'd emphasize disabling any third party repos
[05:36] <solid_liquid> zero88, np
[05:36] <timothyjackson> anybody?
[05:36] <zero88> solid_liquid how would I read the /bin/ls file?
[05:36] <DigitalNinja> nickrud: Is there a website I can go to for instructions.
[05:36] <ljsmithx> timothyjackson,
[05:37] <ljsmithx> ohh hes gone
[05:37] <nickrud> DigitalNinja, ah, you missed it. Just above my !upgrade, there's another with the link
[05:37] <zcat[1]> od /bin/ls perhaps?
[05:37] <solid_liq> zero88, read it?  how do you mean?
[05:37] <DigitalNinja> Got it
[05:37] <PurpZeY> solid_liq: He wants to read the commadn
[05:37] <PurpZeY> solid_liq: The code
[05:37] <tjmac> Can anyone help me with my Ubuntu on Mac???
[05:37] <zero88> solid_liquid well ive tried gedit /bin/ls but it says something about the coddec
[05:37] <solid_liq> zero88, for the code, you'll have to get the source package
[05:37] <zcat[1]> what package has the source for the ls command?
[05:37] <ljsmithx> what is a good software library for ubuntu? like a website
[05:38] <ljsmithx> I want more apps
[05:38] <solid_liq> zero88, that's compiled C code, so it's machine code
[05:38] <xkarimx> Hye all! May i know how by using SSH i can run Xchat IRC on my Ubuntu? Thanxs
[05:38] <Ttech> ljsmithx, err did you add the multi and universe?
[05:38] <zcat[1]> ljsmithx: cafeugo
[05:38] <zero88> solid_liquid ahhh
[05:38] <ljsmithx> ?
[05:38] <nickrud> zcat[1],   dpkg -S /bin/ls   says coreutils
[05:38] <ljsmithx> how? and what was the second one?
[05:38] <zcat[1]> but generally there's about 18000 packages in the repos.. you don't really need to download stuff most of the time
[05:38] <solid_liq> zero88, so you'll have to get the C source code...  try     apt-get source coreutils
[05:38] <zero88> solid_liquid ok, well if I made a bash script and put it in bin, and named it lsp, would simply typing lsp in terminal also work?
[05:38] <ljsmithx> ohh yeah I did.
[05:39] <ljsmithx> Whats the cafe?
[05:39] <solid_liq> zero88, yeah, except you'd first have to do:     chmod +x /bin/ls
[05:39] <tjmac> Can anyone answer a few basic questions for me?
[05:39] <zero88> solid_liquid ok sweet thanks alot
[05:39] <ljsmithx> !ask
[05:39] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:39] <solid_liq> zero88, that sets the execute bit, so that linux will recognize it as being a file it can execute somehow
[05:39] <solid_liq> zero88, and you may have to ensure the permissions are correct
[05:39] <zcat[1]> !cafeugo
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cafeugo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <zero88> solid_liquid ok
[05:40] <solid_liq> zero88, so:    ls -l /bin/ls*
[05:40] <zcat[1]> did I spell it wrong?
[05:40] <solid_liq> zero88, and make the permissions of lsp match those of ls
[05:40] <nickrud> zcat[1], no, that's right
[05:40] <ljsmithx> http://cafeugo.com/ Cafe Uge is an italian cafe... thats not anything todo with ubuntu lol
[05:40] <solid_liq> zero88, man chmod      and       man chgrp      to learn about that
[05:40] <zcat[1]> no factoid though... what's the website?
[05:40] <zero88> solid_liquid ok
[05:40] <tjmac> 1.) How do I boot into Ubuntu when I start my mac. 2.) How do I install programs on Ubuntu, I can't figure it out. 3.) I don't get sound on my computer when using Linux how do I fix this?
[05:41] <solid_liq> zero88, or maybe a google for "linux file permissions" may give you something easier to read
[05:41] <nickrud> ljsmithx, cafuego.net
[05:41] <gary4gar> my floppy drive does not work, i get "Unable to mount the volume. , here is a screenshot "http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj253/gary4gar/Screenshot-gnome-mount.png"
[05:41] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Once you install ubuntu it should give a "boot loader" called grub, a menu should give you a choice....Did you install?
[05:41] <ljsmithx> thanks, does that have software on it?
[05:41] <xkarimx> sorry tjmac, i never have experience run ubuntu on mac platform:)
[05:41]  * nickrud thinks cafuego is being overly modest about ubotu
[05:42] <zcat[1]> found it: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net
[05:42] <ljsmithx> zcat, thanks
[05:42] <ljsmithx> tjmac, are you using a powerpc mac of intel?
[05:42] <ljsmithx> or*
[05:42] <tjmac> PurpZeY: I am VERY new at this, I put the ISO on the cd and put it in, I chose the option that says "start Ubuntu or Install."
[05:42] <zcat[1]> nice place to get the things that ubuntu won't package for whatever reason... like dvdcss2 and stuff
[05:42] <tjmac> that is ll I know
[05:43] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Yes, then you should drop into what is called the "LiveCD" which is an 'imitation' of what the operating system will look like, once you install it
[05:43] <dinesh86> ubuntu gutsy live cd sync out of range
[05:43] <gary4gar> my floppy drive does not work, i get "Unable to mount the volume. , here is a screenshot "http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj253/gary4gar/Screenshot-gnome-mount.png"
[05:43] <tjmac> than what do I do next?
[05:43] <PurpZeY> tjmac: If you are ready to install, double click the "install" button
[05:43] <tuntun> how do I remove the xchat icon from the notification area?
[05:43] <zcat[1]> gbg ttfn
[05:44] <ljsmithx> If I add repos, will they show up in Add/Remove?
[05:44] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Otherwise, play around, see what the deal is w/ ubuntu without any harm to your system
[05:44] <PurpZeY> ljsmithx: Yes.
[05:44] <shadowbw> tuntun- right click on it and Hide
[05:44] <ljsmithx> cool
[05:44] <PurpZeY> tuntun: Right click
[05:44] <nickrud> ljsmithx, no, those are custom installers made by ubuntu
[05:44] <ljsmithx> ?
[05:44] <nickrud> ljsmithx, but they will show up in synaptic
[05:44] <ljsmithx> Yes and no :S
[05:44] <PurpZeY> ljsmithx: I am wrong.
[05:44] <ljsmithx> Ok
[05:44] <PurpZeY> nickrud knows a lot more than me
[05:44] <ljsmithx> LOL!
[05:44] <tuntun> that only hides the xchat window
[05:44] <PurpZeY> I made an assumption
[05:45] <nickrud> PurpZeY, heh. you also know more than I :)
[05:45] <abdulla>  is Xubuntu worth using ? rather then ubuntu>?
[05:45] <dinesh86> ubuntu gutsy live cd sync out of range problem
[05:45] <PurpZeY> nickrud: Maybe about law...
[05:45] <gary4gar> !floppy
[05:45] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[05:45] <abdulla> i want power but even abit of looks like , compiz and a custom theme style
[05:45] <tjmac> oh ok
[05:45] <nickrud> PurpZeY, other stuff here as well. We all have our strengths
[05:45] <PurpZeY> nickrud: Fair enough...;)
[05:45] <tjmac> after I install Ubuntu, than how do I go between the operating systems on my mac when I start it up?
" right click  only hides the xchat window
[05:46] <ljsmithx> I had alot of trouble using ubuntu on my g3... I think it may have been my ati-rage pro graphics card..
[05:46] <PurpZeY> abdulla: compiz does not run in xubuntu if I understand things.
[05:46] <crdlb> PurpZeY: you don't :)
[05:46] <tjmac> also how do I start Beryl?
[05:46] <PurpZeY> crdlb: twice in a row, not a shocker
[05:46] <tuntun> oh and why isn't the "eyecandy" theme installed with xchat?
[05:46] <ljsmithx> ahhh! something went wrong
[05:46] <ljsmithx> W: GPG error: http://us.ubuntu.cafuego.net gutsy-cafuego Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 81600957AF425CB5