[10:27] <rsyncx> gnomefreak, cuz rails needs 1.8.2 :)
[10:27] <fletch33> soundray,  k
[10:27] <gnomefreak> rsyncx: check in synaptic it should be in there if you can get it
[10:28] <soundray> fletch33: how to move forward, synaptic or apt?
[10:28] <cs02rm0> anyone know why when i SSH from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> it seems to work, yet when i look around the filesystem... i'm actually still on the same box, *.48??
[10:28] <Kr4t05> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9643 <<--- error output for Doom 3. HELP!
[10:28] <slabby> can any one answer my questions???? i need some help!
[10:28] <santiago> kr4t05 it work great and ubuntu have ppp apliccation and work for dial-up and I thing I am going to erase it
[10:28] <fletch33> soundray,  i opened up the universe now
[10:28] <rsyncx> gnomefreak, thats the problem i do ruby -v it reports 1.8.3 , synaptic reports 1.8.2 installed
[10:29] <saniX> cs02rm0, start sshd on all machines
[10:29] <fletch33> soundray,  still no gorc
[10:29] <soundray> fletch33: that sounds grand. I'll open mine tomorrow ;)
[10:29] <gnomefreak> rsyncx: go to ruby in synaptic and choose reinstall see if that helps (for your version of ruby that you want)
[10:29] <fletch33> soundray, ?
[10:29] <slabby> can anyone even hear me?
[10:29] <slabby> can anyone read this?
[10:29] <fletch33> soundray, did i miss something
[10:29] <soundray> fletch33: try gocr not gorc
[10:29] <gnomefreak> slabby: if people know they will answer
[10:29] <Kr4t05> santiago: You may want to try #ubuntu-es I'm having trouble understanding.
[10:30] <slabby> gnome: where else can i ask?
[10:30] <soundray> fletch33: you said "I opened up the universe now" -- almost poetic.
[10:30] <slabby> gnome: is there another channel where i may get help?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> slabby: did you see if there was a #ati?
[10:30] <fletch33> soundray,  thanks hehehe i got gocr now
[10:30] <soundray> slabby: nobody knows right now, try again in an hour, different people will have joined.
[10:30] <slabby> gnome: in lspce?
[10:30] <slabby> gnome: lspci*
[10:30] <gnomefreak> slabby: no in irc
[10:31] <rsyncx> gnomefreak, nope :(
[10:31] <soundray> fletch33: Got gocr? Great. Now get netpbm
[10:31] <fletch33> soundray,  k
[10:31] <slabby> ok im trying #ati, seems silent though
[10:31] <fletch33> soundray,  got it
[10:31] <santiago> kr4t05 no problem I testing x-chat and I would fine looking some spanish chat thak you
[10:31] <soundray> fletch33: Apply and let it install
[10:31] <gnomefreak> rsyncx: did you do a ruby update after adding any of the repos?
[10:31] <adrian_h> Hi, all. I'm porting an init script from Fedora to Ubuntu. The init script sources "/etc/rc.d/init.d/functions", which doesn't exist on Ubuntu. What's the Ubuntu equivalent?
[10:31] <fletch33> soundray,  i already had that 1
[10:31] <cs02rm0> saniX: no luck, still does it.
[10:31] <Kr4t05> santiago: de nada
[10:32] <rsyncx> gnomefreak, could it be installed version of ruby "package" mismatches with interpreter language version?
[10:32] <soundray> fletch33: are you familiar with the command line?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> rsyncx: it could be a list of things but yes that could be it
[10:32] <fletch33> soundray,  somewhat ;)
[10:32] <rsyncx> gnomefreak, i installed it after all repository stuff was solidified , i.e. did not change after after updating
[10:32] <rsyncx> gnomefreak, didnot change repository list
[10:32] <soundray> fletch33: open a terminal and cd to the directory where your jpeg file lives.
[10:33] <gnomefreak> rsyncx: try man dpkg or man apt  i remember seeing somethng about degressing packages
[10:33] <varun_> ssup machas
[10:33] <fletch33> soundray,  what is the command to cd to the desktop
[10:33] <AB3I> afternoon all. I have a bit of a dilema, and google has thus far failed to produce
[10:33] <gnomefreak> rsyncx: what i was trying to get at was with backports enabled it might have updated your version of ruby
[10:33] <soundray> fletch33: cd $HOME/Desktop
[10:34] <Kr4t05> !quake4bork
[10:34] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kr4t05
[10:34] <AB3I> I've got this spiffy new 17" wide screen monitor, native resolution 1280x768, except ubuntu doesn't offer that resolution, so the screen looks like crap
[10:34] <Kr4t05> FFS
[10:34] <Kr4t05> >>
[10:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell AB3I about fixres
[10:34] <fletch33> soundray,  k there
[10:34] <Kr4t05> <<
[10:34] <iBalo> !fixres
[10:34] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:34] <AB3I> I edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it didn't help
[10:34] <soundray> fletch33: $HOME is a variable for /home/fletch33 or whatever your username is.
[10:34] <varun_> anyone WOWing on wine ?
[10:34] <fletch33> soundray,  k
[10:34] <AB3I> thanks gnome
[10:34] <scott> hi...anybody around to offer some wlan help?
[10:35] <Kr4t05> varun_: not WoW, but I'm trying to get Warcraft 3 to work.
[10:35] <suidik> scott: just ask
[10:35] <soundray> fletch33: now type 'jpegtopnm file.jpg >file.pnm' (replacing file.jpg with the actual filename)
[10:35] <lampshade> I've seen people run WoW though I don't
[10:35] <gnomefreak> !wine
[10:35] <varun_> kewl Kr4t05, still need to cfg ze wine
[10:36] <soundray> fletch33: if it works, you should see no output, but a new file on your desktop.
[10:36] <scott> short story: brand new dell inspiron 600m with dell 1370 wireless card...
[10:36] <fletch33> soundray,  k done
[10:36] <erez> Kr4t05: i understood that you need a crack to do it from ubuntu, didn't try it yet but i should..
[10:36] <scott> ...everything works great, except the wireless card.
[10:36] <lampshade> Does pretty well everyone here use Xchat for IRC?  I'm kinda mad that there is no off the bat easy way to auto identify etc with Xchat other than Perl scripts and what not,
[10:36] <echilon> I've just installed ununtu 5.10, but when I try to do 'make' with a package, I get 'command not flound'
[10:36] <scott> i've searched high and low, but can't seem to solve the problem.
[10:36] <fletch33> soundray,  got the .pnm on desktop now
[10:36] <soundray> fletch33: what name did you give the pnm file?
[10:36] <varun_> IS ROBOTGEEK IN HERE ?
[10:37] <fletch33> soundray,  MGIF
[10:37] <gnomefreak> echilon: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:37] <iBalo> lampshade: just give good'ol chatzilla a try
[10:37] <gnomefreak> varun_: not speaking hes not please turn your caps lock key off
[10:37] <scott> i've posted here on it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=786291#post786291
[10:37] <Kr4t05> 256*1024
[10:37] <soundray> fletch33: sec...
[10:37] <echilon> thanks
[10:37] <scott> seems like other users have hte same problem, but nobody has a solution
[10:37] <Kr4t05> crap
[10:37] <lampshade> iBalo, lol, I didn't even think of that, but have used it in the past, does it auto identify nicks and such>
[10:37] <Kr4t05> ubotu doesn't do math, does he?
[10:37] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kr4t05
[10:38] <varun_> gnomefreak, gee sry dint mean to break protocol
[10:38] <fletch33> soundray,  np i appreciate the help it will save me a lot of typing now and in the future
[10:38] <iBalo> you can have handy shortcuts ans autocompletions
[10:38] <suidik> scott: I thought there is ipw2200 :-(
[10:38] <gnomefreak> echilon: if you have problems with ubuntu ask the channel if not ther eis an offtopic room
[10:38] <soundray> fletch33: wait, you may yet be disappointed by the results. OCR is tricky business.
[10:38] <fletch33> soundray,  k
[10:38] <gnomefreak> nnot echilon
[10:38] <scott> what is ipw220?
[10:38] <varun_> could someone offer me a good alternative to visual source safe for breezy /
[10:38] <lampshade> there are two wireless dell uses a lot ipw and the 1370, as far as I can tell
[10:38] <interferon> how do i get initng to pull IP addresses on boot?
[10:39] <redlounge> hi. importing from my usb digicam with gthumb only works as root. with user rights i get an error saying '... could not reserve interface 0...'- any idea what to do?
[10:39] <lampshade> mine for example, is the ipw2200
[10:39] <lampshade> on my 6000
[10:39] <erez> lampshade: i use irssi, it's a text based client on the terminal
[10:39] <fletch33> soundray,  well if it doesnt work i will have to do it the long way
[10:39] <soundray> fletch33: now type 'gocr MGIF >text.txt'
[10:39] <scott> ipw2200 is the intel pro wireless, right?
[10:39] <soundray> fletch33: check the result with gedit text.txt
[10:40] <scott> how would i conclusively determine which i have?
[10:40] <lampshade> scott, yes
[10:40] <fletch33> soundray,   ERROR pnm.c L118: opening file MGIF
[10:40] <suidik> scott: ipw2200 is a solution for wireless cards under linux - notebook with centrino usually has it..
[10:40] <soundray> fletch33: is MGIF really what you called the pnm file?
[10:40] <crouchingMonkey2> how big should the swap be if you have 512 mb of ram ?
[10:40] <fletch33> soundray,  that is what i renamed it to
[10:40] <rsyncx> oh man it doesn't make sense
[10:40] <scott> i don't have centrino...pentium M
[10:40] <fletch33> soundray,  it is MGIF.pnm
[10:41] <lampshade> scott, ipw2200.sourceforge.net is a project somewhat sponsored by intel that helps build the drivers.  Now they are pretty well included in a lot of distros, ubuntu nailed my wireless with no setup, I just had to setup the WPA encryption which didn't prove too hard at all either.
[10:41] <soundray> fletch33: ahh, okay. Type 'gocr MGIF.pnm >text.txt' then
[10:41] <hermes> i thinks 512 would be enough
[10:41] <scott> okay, taking a look at that now...
[10:41] <WebLOCH> hey guys, my graphics card should have 128mb of memory or 256mb with turbocache, however the systems reporting 64mb :( any takers?
[10:41] <lampshade> scott, not the processor, you are thinking celeron vs pentium, but that's not what we are talking about
[10:41] <endeavormac> does ubuntu have something similar to apt-get in debian?
[10:41] <WebLOCH> endeavormac, yes
[10:41] <soundray> fletch33: truncating the filename extensions is a bad Microsoft habit ;)
[10:41] <suidik> scott: lspci | grep 'Network controller'
[10:41] <lampshade> endeavormac, yes, very yes
[10:41] <WebLOCH> endeavormac, it has apt-get
[10:42] <endeavormac> heh ok, thanks :)
[10:42] <fletch33> soundray,   i think that worked 1 sec
[10:42] <Kr4t05> How do I restart GDM?
[10:42] <WebLOCH> kr4t05 you can do a shallow restart with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[10:42] <scott> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[10:42] <Kr4t05> Doesn't work.
[10:42] <soundray> Kr4t05: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:43] <endeavormac> I don't have Ubuntu, but I'm trying to help a friend get his Ubuntu install configured. Is there a place I can see a list of the packages readily available for Ubuntu through apt-get?
[10:43] <Kr4t05> Thanks
[10:43] <scott> I'm pretty sure that's the Dell 1370, not the ipw2200
[10:43] <soundray> Kr4t05: that'll kill itself though, if you call it from X.
[10:43] <fletch33> soundray,  :( it just looks like a bunch of nonsense
[10:43] <WebLOCH> soundray, i imagine you told him too late
[10:43] <fletch33> soundray,  in the gedit
[10:43] <lampshade> endeavormac, ummm  easier to apt-cache search program you want  or I think online there are
[10:43] <suidik> scott: can you tell me your lspci network controller line ?
[10:44] <lampshade> endeavormac, so like apt-cache search mozilla firefox and things like that will get you the exact names of programs to then apt-get install
[10:44] <scott> yep, hang on...
[10:44] <soundray> fletch33: you can try and tweak the image quality to get better results.
[10:44] <jaycee_N770> Evenin' all
[10:44] <endeavormac> ok i'll let him know
[10:44] <soundray> fletch33: first of all, how do you acquire those jpegs?
[10:45] <jaycee_N770> Could I ask a brief ubuntu install question?  Is this a suitable place to ask?
[10:45] <scott> here you go: 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[10:45] <soundray> WebLOCH: I trust your imagination there...
[10:45] <fletch33> soundray,  it is from a client and it is very good quality at least as a jpg it was
[10:45] <lampshade> jaycee_N770, just ask any question, if someone can answer they will :-)  don't ask to ask
[10:45] <soundray> fletch33: Scan? Photo? Screenshot?
[10:45] <WebLOCH> soundray, well you did what you could, you were just sowing the seeds
[10:45] <gnomefreak> night all
[10:45] <suidik> scott: hmm
[10:45] <fletch33> soundray,  it was a 30x40 poster and it was emailed to me
[10:46] <soundray> fletch33: what's the contrast like between the text and the background?
[10:46] <scott> suidik, so, i'm using ndiswrapper to make the driver for this card work...
[10:46] <fletch33> soundray,  the 1 pic is 3.9 mb
[10:46] <scott> ...and when i do, this error shows up:
[10:46] <endeavormac> alright guys, thans
[10:46] <endeavormac> thanks
[10:46] <fletch33> soundray,  the text is layed over a pic
[10:46] <scott> [4296070.191000]  ndiswrapper (import:238): unknown symbol: ntoskrnl.exe:strrchr
[10:46] <fletch33> soundray,  i gues that is the problem
[10:47] <jaycee_N770> After installation and reboot, and halfway thru the initial setup process, the apt process sits at 99% CPU.
[10:47] <scott> what do you think that means...ntoskrnl.exe seems odd to me in a linux system
[10:47] <soundray> fletch33: is it black text?
[10:47] <fletch33> soundray,  most of it some is red
[10:47] <cafuego> scott; yeah, well, so is a windows .sys driver eh?
[10:47] <scott> yes
[10:47] <fletch33> soundray,  i just really want the black anyway
[10:47] <suidik> scott: yes, it's your solution.. http://egofanatic.com/linuxonlaptops/Dell600m.php
[10:47] <soundray> fletch33: the background pic - is there a lot of black in there?
[10:48] <jaycee_N770> I think it's looking for the CD which I removed at the end of the install, but I've got a dvd and cd drive so it can't locate it.
[10:48] <fletch33> soundray,  not really
[10:48] <scott> cafuego: here's where i've posted all the details of this problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=786291#post786291
[10:48] <scott> suidik: checking out that url now.
[10:48] <soundray> fletch33: have you got gimp and/or imagemagick installed?
[10:48] <lampshade> scott, silly question, but is the wireless on?  Like my dell has a fn+f2 key that will kill it.  Is that on or off right now?
[10:48] <cafuego> scott: As near as I can tell the driver uses a non-standard fucntion that's not provided by the driver or compatibility layer. (strrchr). best bet is to find another driver which does not have the same problem.
[10:48] <tempest1> does anbody know how i can install gcj-4.0.2 on Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:48] <khafra> My firefox has a problem with crashing when I have plenty of memory left, just 10 or 20 tabs open
[10:48] <fletch33> soundray,  i might have where would it be
[10:48] <khafra> Is it a bad idea to upgrade to 1.5 ahead of Ubuntu?
[10:49] <kr0x> hello
[10:49] <fletch33> soundray,  i have gimp image editor
[10:49] <khafra> Since the official Ubuntu version is still 1.07 and all?
[10:49] <soundray> fletch33: run gimp and display from the commandline to find out.
[10:49] <cafuego> !tell khafra -about ff1.5
[10:49] <scott> suidik: that person hasn't got the wireless working yet.
[10:49] <fletch33> soundray,  i have it
[10:49] <scott> lampshade: good question...let me check that out.
[10:50] <[Leo] > hi!
[10:50] <scott> cafuego: okay, i'll see what i can find.  any ideas on how to easily/quickly find a substitute driver?
[10:50] <cafuego> scott: only the obvious; google.
[10:50] <soundray> fletch33: what you have to do essentially is to replace every non-black pixel in the image with white. Do you know how to do that?
[10:51] <Kr4t05> I'm having problems with Doom3. I've copied all of the .pk4 files over to */base but I recieve this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9643
[10:51] <khafra> cafuego: Ah, goody, thanks.  Now, any idea why the guide to a 32 bit chroot inside AMD64 Hoary doesn't work in Ubuntu? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[10:51] <fletch33> soundray,  no but this sounds like it might be more work than typing it out ha
[10:51] <kr0x> i'd like to try ubuntu ...what does it mean "standard request 5 PC CDs" on https://shipit.ubuntu.com ? are there 5 exact copies of install cd or install cd + packages or install cd + sources ?
[10:51] <soundray> fletch33: yes, if you do it pixel by pixel :)
[10:51] <cafuego> khafra: Works fine here
[10:51] <torstein_> How do I install additional keymaps ?
[10:52] <fletch33> soundray,  i am sure u have better thhings to do than walk me thru all of this
[10:52] <bur[n] er> kr0x: install & live... 2 cds in the pack
[10:52] <hermes> kr0x: 5 install cds and 5 live cds
[10:52] <fletch33> soundray,  thanks for your help i will type it out :(
[10:52] <lampshade> scott, I read your post in the forums and I don't see anything obviously wrong, that's why I was curious if that somehow got turned off or something so iwconfig just wasn't seeing the device or something liek that :-/
[10:52] <soundray> fletch33: but you've got good graphics tools there. I'd be glad to make that bit of graphics experience I have work for you.
[10:52] <fletch33> soundray,
[10:52] <fletch33> soundray, ok
[10:52] <scott> lampshade: i have the f2 button you're talking about, but it doesn't seem to be making anything change
[10:53] <bur[n] er> anyone know if it's possible to use the livecd to make a hard drive copy to another hard drive... similar to ghost?
[10:53] <soundray> fletch33: I'll be kind of making it up as we go a long, but you've got me going now. Open your original jpeg image with the Gimp.
[10:53] <khafra> cafuego: I've tried it twice.  Each time, when I type the final chroot -d, my root directory and pwd don't change at all
[10:53] <kr0x> is it possible to order install + live + sources ?
[10:53] <fletch33> soundray,  u want me to open the jpg or pnm in gimp
[10:53] <talvon> can anyone help with an installation problem?
[10:53] <root404> How do I list all of the processes in the background?
[10:53] <fletch33> soundray,  k done
[10:53] <cafuego> khafra: yes, that would be the point.
[10:53] <soundray> fletch33: the jpeg.
[10:53] <bur[n] er> kr0x: don't think so
[10:53] <kr0x> bur[n] er: why ?
[10:53] <fletch33> soundray,  k got it
[10:53] <tempest1> does anbody know how i can install gcj-4.0.2 on Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:53] <root404> Anyone?
[10:54] <torstein_> Do anyone know how I can install the iso-8859-15 keymap for ubuntu 5.10?
[10:54] <bur[n] er> i bet you could download an .iso of the sources to burn
[10:54] <engla> kr0x: shipit doesn't ship source cds for free, you have to pay the shipping
[10:54] <bur[n] er> or pay shipping
[10:54] <kr0x> ok
[10:54] <crouchingMonkey2> is there any particular order in which i should be installing codecs ?
[10:54] <khafra> cafuego: You broke my brain.  If the root directory doesn't change to the /chroot/, how will I know which synaptic I'm using, and whether I'm installing 32 or 64 bit programs, and where I'm installing them?
[10:54] <talvon> I have a wireless keyboard and mouse, and when I go to install I can press 'enter' to start it, but when I have to choose my language my keyboard or my PS2 keyboard don't respond
[10:54] <kr0x> thanks for information
[10:54] <soundray> fletch33: select the zoom tool and zoom in on a bit of text.
[10:54] <root404> Anyone?
[10:54] <root404> Help?
[10:54] <bur[n] er> crouchingMonkey2: nope
[10:54] <talvon> and that is common with lots of linux distros I have
[10:55] <talvon> which means I can't install them >_>
[10:55] <tempest1> root404, as root: "ps aux"
[10:55] <pcarnie> gnomefreak thanx for the help earlier with the resolution issue, however this did not help!!
[10:55] <soundray> fletch33: is the text antialiased?
[10:55] <tempest1> this channel is crazy
[10:55] <slabby> im back
[10:55] <fletch33> soundray,  antialiased?
[10:55] <pcarnie> The problem is that I can setup the xorg.conf file correctly however i cannot choose the reolution I want through gnome
[10:56] <soundray> tempest1: yes, tempestuous ;)
[10:56] <slabby> you still around gnome, or anyone else that may know
[10:56] <cafuego> khafra: You chroot to /chroot, so that becomes '/'.
[10:56] <soundray> fletch33: antialiasing = smoothing with color pixels
[10:56] <fletch33> soundray,  i zoomed in on some text
[10:56] <cafuego> khafra: The whole idea is that to the software, there _is_ no difference.
[10:56] <echilon> I'm trying to install the IEEE80211 drivers, but I keep getting an error about /lib/modules/2.6.12-10.386/build not being found
[10:56] <echilon> do I have to install the kernel source or something?
[10:56] <pcarnie> the problem seem to be that the refresh is detected as -25873 and because of this i have no options.  The resolution just sets to 1024x768
[10:56] <fletch33> soundray,  the text i selected has an all white background
[10:57] <khafra> cafuego: Ah, good.  It was you misunderstanding me, not me misunderstanding the point of chroot.
[10:57] <danc3> echilon: yes
[10:57] <fletch33> soundray,  very clean looking if that is what u mean
[10:57] <tempest1> pcarnie, do you have a subsection for display modes?
[10:57] <pcarnie> yes
[10:57] <khafra> cafuego: When I use it, it doesn't make /chroot into /.  I can still get to /.
[10:57] <fletch33> soundray,  sorry not familiar with that
[10:57] <pcarnie> I have had it running up untill recently
[10:57] <soundray> fletch33: antialiasing is a trick to make text look better than the resolution would normally allow. If you have grey pixels within curves, you've got antialiasing, and we have to adapt our strategy.
[10:57] <cafuego> khafra: Which / is it? The one inside the chroot or not?
[10:58] <tempest1> it could be that your driver is reporting that it's incompatible to run video for that hardware at any other resolutions
[10:58] <soundray> fletch33: but it sounds like you don't.
[10:58] <fletch33> soundray,  nope
[10:58] <tempest1> you've got the driver installed, and everything?
[10:58] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know anything about Doom 3? I've copied all of the .pk4 files over to */base but I recieve this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9643
[10:58] <slabby> the ati driver doesnt seem to be working, so is there generic driver i can use? ( i heard something about vesa but dont know what it is)
[10:58] <soundray> fletch33: okay, select the "select by color" tool (#5 in the main gimp window).
[10:59] <fletch33> soundray, k
[10:59] <Wammy|> gagh! im going to kill this.
[10:59] <slabby> the ati driver doesnt seem to be working, so is there generic driver i can use? ( i heard something about vesa but dont know what it is)
[10:59] <Wammy|> anyone care to help me out to see why the sound wont work?
[10:59] <soundray> fletch33: still in the main window, deselect Antialiasing and set the Threshold to 1. Leave other options as they are.
[10:59] <Kr4t05> ubotu tell slabby about vesa
[11:00] <preglow> ok, ive chosen the correct keyboard type in preferences but my regional keyboard keys still dont display what they should, anything im missing?
[11:00] <khafra> cafuego: When I try to start the chroot, it tells me it's executing a shell in the breezy (/chroot/) environment, but then I still see the /chroot/ directory, and I can still navigate to the true /
[11:00] <talvon> I have a wireless keyboard and mouse, and when I go to install I can press 'enter' to start it, but when I have to choose my language my keyboard or my PS2 keyboard don't respond
[11:00] <fletch33> soundray, k
[11:00] <soundray> fletch33: when you've done that, click on a black spot in the image. You should see marching ants outlining the text.
[11:00] <dennis_> how do i use sun instead GNU libgcj i terminal?
[11:01] <fletch33> soundray,  k
[11:01] <pcarnie> yes everything seems to be ok. It has worked ok before. do you want me to send my xorg.conf
[11:01] <soundray> fletch33: now all the text is selected. Invert the selection with Ctrl-i and remove all non-text with Ctrl-X
[11:01] <fletch33> soundray,  it did not select the red text though but no big deal
[11:01] <do_me_nice> how do i mount my ntfs partion?
[11:01] <me2win> !ntfs
[11:01] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:01] <fletch33> soundray,  the text went white
[11:02] <soundray> fletch33: you will be able to adapt this strategy later to include red text as well, if necessary.
[11:02] <jimmothy86> hello, can anyone help me get sound working on my linux laptop
[11:02] <cyphase> http://www.therawfeed.com/2006/03/racy-microsoft-ad-spotted-in-wild.html
[11:02] <soundray> fletch33: okay, that shouldn't have happened.
[11:02] <lampshade> doesn't glxgears normally show framerates?  wth?  did they stop doing that?  Is there a flag I can use?
[11:02] <soundray> fletch33: maybe you inverted the selection twice...
[11:02] <fletch33> soundray,  the text went white with black outlining
[11:02] <Kr4t05> ubotu tell jimmothy86 about sound debugging
[11:02] <khafra> cafuego: Yeah, that was all I could figure out too.
[11:02] <Kr4t05> ubotu tell jimmothy86 about audiodebugging
[11:02] <oguzhan> how can i run "fgrlxconfig"?
[11:02] <soundray> fletch33: anyway, hit Ctrl-Z until you are back to where you were.
[11:03] <Kr4t05> ...
[11:03] <Kr4t05> !audio
[11:03] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kr4t05
[11:03] <Kr4t05> ?!
[11:03] <Kr4t05> !sound
[11:03] <ubotu> hmm... sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:03] <fletch33> soundray,  ok back
[11:03] <Kr4t05> ubotu tell jimmothy86 about sound
[11:03] <soundray> fletch33: try Ctrl-X again. Only the text should stay black, everything else goes white.
[11:04] <fletch33> soundray,  no same as last time sorry
[11:04] <dragonbyte> anyone here using firestarter?
[11:04] <soundray> fletch33: Ctrl-Z to back up, Ctrl-i to invert selection, Ctrl X to remove non-text.
[11:04] <Gamen> I have a problem in with the Breezy LiveCD (also the Dapper LiveCD and Kubuntu's Breezy LiveCD). It locks up when trying to load the EVMS.
[11:05] <fletch33> soundray,  i cant get the ants back
[11:05] <saniX> dragonbyte, i think for iptables !
[11:05] <saniX> true 1
[11:05] <Kr4t05> Ugh
[11:05] <soundray> fletch33: never mind, close the image discarding changes, and reopen it via the File menu.
[11:06] <Kr4t05> It must be nice to have your question answered.
[11:06] <soundray> fletch33: (File-Open Recent)
[11:06] <simon__> Varfr kan jag inte kra varken synaptic eller apt-get komandon ?
[11:06] <fletch33> soundray,  following you r directions over again
[11:06] <pcarnie> Does anybody know anout any isses with an ATI Mobility 7500 and IBM L190p flatpanel
[11:07] <soundray> fletch33: maybe Ctrl-i doesn't work for you. Invert the selection via the Select menu instead.
[11:07] <Kr4t05> simon__: English? o.O
[11:07] <simon__> Kr4t05, yeah, sry, wrong chanel :)
[11:07] <fletch33> soundray,  worked that time
[11:07] <Wibble-> I have installed blackdown j2re, but I have to replace it with suns j2re.  Unfortunately, if I try to remove blackdowns version, it removes eclipse and openoffice and everything that uses java.  I want to replace the java "seamlessly" - i.e. without removing existing packages.  how can I do this?
[11:08] <fletch33> soundray, all i see is the black text no pic
[11:08] <soundray> fletch33: okay, now do a File-Save as and give it a name of t.pgm
[11:08] <fletch33> soundray,  can we get the red text back too
[11:08] <Kr4t05> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <Kr4t05> Ack
[11:08] <Kr4t05> sry
[11:08] <scott> i asked earlier, but maybe there are some new folks around...anyone have experience debugging issues with ndiswrapper, a dell 600m and the dell 1370 wireless card?
[11:09] <pianoboy3333> Help me with an ATI problem here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=786623#post786623
[11:09] <cafuego> Wibble-: Just install the converted sun package over the top.
[11:09] <soundray> fletch33: I'll leave that as an exercise for you if that's okay. Select by color works on red, too.
[11:09] <dragonbyte> saniX: I just started playing with it and it seems slick, but it mentions being able to use it on a server over ssh
[11:09] <do_me_nice> why is it telling my my special device hda1 doesnt exist?
[11:09] <dragonbyte> saniX: and I'm not sure exactly how that is supposed to work
[11:09] <RollyW> is apache already included in ubuntu 5.10?
[11:09] <cafuego> Wibble-: That is, the result from 'make-jpkg'.
[11:09] <fletch33> soundray,  says that pgm can only handle gray scale
[11:09] <soundray> fletch33: actually, this could be interesting...
[11:09] <cafuego> RollyW: Included, but not installed.
[11:09] <fletch33> soundray,  convert to greyscale
[11:09] <Kr4t05> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9643 <--------HELP!?!
[11:10] <fletch33> soundray, ?
[11:10] <Wibble-> cafuego, so just follow http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76702.html like normal eh?
[11:10] <RollyW> kk, what would the terminal command be to install it?
[11:10] <soundray> fletch33: yes, convert to grayscale.
[11:10] <fletch33> soundray,  data formatting raw or ascii
[11:10] <soundray> fletch33: raw
[11:10] <cafuego> Wibble-: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:10] <fletch33> soundray,  got it
[11:10] <Wibble-> even better! thanks
[11:10] <Wammy|> whats linux's stand on USB sound output?
[11:11] <cafuego> That contains peer-reviewed instructions, as opposed to random muttering from people who may or may not know what they're doing.
[11:11] <fletch33> soundray,  the text is kinda choopy though
[11:11] <scott> anyone have experience debugging issues with ndiswrapper, a dell 600m and the dell 1370 wireless card?
[11:11] <soundray> fletch33: now, back to the commandline, try 'gocr t.pgm >t.txt ; gedit t.txt'
[11:11] <fletch33> soundray,  sorry choppy
[11:11] <soundray> fletch33: let's see how gocr deals with it first.
[11:12] <fletch33> soundray,  what was the desktop cd again
[11:12] <ubuntu_> sweet
[11:12] <soundray> fletch33: cd ~/Desktop (or cd $HOME/Desktop)
[11:12] <ubuntu_> the only linux ive used so far that actually connects to internet
[11:12] <karim> hi ppl
[11:13] <karim> can anyone help me with setting up a Lexmark z11 printer under CUPS
[11:13] <fletch33> soundray,  k running
[11:13] <fletch33> soundray,  :( just a bunch of jibberish
[11:13] <Wammy|> anyone know of any USB sound devices?
[11:14] <pianoboy3333> Wammy|: no
[11:14] <RollyW> can someone tell me what the terminal command is to install apache?
[11:14] <soundray> fletch33: well, okay, the process will still need refinement.
[11:14] <dyrne> RollyW: sudo apt-get install apache
[11:14] <dyrne> RollyW: or apache2
[11:14] <scott> anyone have experience debugging issues with ndiswrapper, a dell 600m and the dell 1370 wireless card?
[11:15] <gr33npho3nix> scott: the dell wireless works w\ the linksys wpc11 drivers
[11:15] <gr33npho3nix> i think thats the correct model
[11:15] <fletch33> soundray,  well i am calling it a day but thank u very much for your help
[11:15] <soundray> fletch33: I showed you a way to segment your image into the text portion and the image portion (which we threw away).
[11:15] <gr33npho3nix> but also dell wireless is broadcom so native is only a hope and skip away
[11:16] <soundray> fletch33: you'd have to play around with selection options and such to get better results.
[11:16] <fletch33> soundray,  that was nice and will come in handy i learned something today and for that i thank u
[11:16] <Gamen> I have a problem: with the Breezy LiveCD (also the Dapper LiveCD and Kubuntu's Breezy LiveCD) when loading it locks up when trying to load the EVMS.
[11:16] <soundray> fletch33: it may also be necessary to reduce the image resolution.
[11:16] <soundray> fletch33: anyway, it was fun, sorry the results weren't so great.
[11:16] <fletch33> soundray,  np thanks for trying. catch u later
[11:16] <leobeta> where are the booting logs?
[11:17] <soundray> fletch33: cheers
[11:17] <Gamen> Booting logs?
[11:17] <gr33npho3nix> /var/log/syslog
[11:17] <gr33npho3nix> /var/log/kernel
[11:17] <gr33npho3nix> uhh
[11:17] <Gamen> AHh, not me, nevermind c.c
[11:17] <leobeta> thx
[11:17] <soundray> leobeta: also try dmesg
[11:17] <echilon> what's the default root password for ubuntu?
[11:17] <echilon> I can't sudo anything
[11:17] <gr33npho3nix> check if that service also has a specific log
[11:17] <soundray> echilon: it's disabled by default
[11:17] <dyrne> ubotu: tell echilon about root
[11:17] <gr33npho3nix> most of them do
[11:17] <RickX> some students at schoo installed 5.10 on a lab computer. I had to start gnome-settings-daemon manually. Anyone have any idea why it didn't start and how to have it start automatically?
[11:17] <soundray> echilon: for sudo, use your user password.
[11:17] <echilon> what is?
[11:18] <gr33npho3nix> echilon: are you a member of the admin group or in the sudoers file
[11:18] <echilon> I am, but it's being a bitch
[11:18] <leobeta> soundray: o0 Nica command!
[11:18] <echilon> I don't know
[11:18] <leobeta> Nice*
[11:18] <soundray> leobeta: see, I knew you'd like it ;)
[11:18] <leobeta> :)
[11:19] <leobeta> i figure it's configurable...
[11:19] <RollyW> hmm, "sudo synaptic install apache" isnt finding anything.. is it something other than synaptic?
[11:19] <leobeta> mm..no.. :(
[11:19] <leobeta> soundray: just the last boot, right ?
[11:19] <do_me_nice> how do i become root user
[11:19] <hermes> sudo
[11:19] <Rinuxl> sudo su -
[11:19] <gr33npho3nix> RollyW: sudo apt-get install apache
[11:19] <RollyW> whats the diff between apt-get, and synaptic?
[11:20] <soundray> leobeta: yes, and it's continuously updated (like when you hotplug a device).
[11:20] <Rinuxl> none
[11:20] <pianoboy3333> RollyW: synaptic is a GUI to apt-get
[11:20] <gr33npho3nix> apt-get is the command line
[11:20] <leobeta> o0, wow
[11:20] <pianoboy3333> yes
[11:20] <petros> hi
[11:20] <RollyW> oh, ok. cool
[11:20] <gr33npho3nix> synaptic is shiney gui
[11:20] <pianoboy3333> a GOOD gui
[11:20] <RollyW> gui?
[11:20] <calamari> hi
[11:20] <Rinuxl> graphical user interface
[11:20] <gr33npho3nix> graphical user interface
[11:20] <duck> omfg
[11:20] <pianoboy3333> RollyW: a Graphical User Interface
[11:20] <RollyW> lol
[11:20] <Rinuxl> lol
[11:20] <petros> when i do dpkg -l ist shows the list but the app names ar cutted
[11:20] <RollyW> thanks for the nob lessons :)
[11:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell RollyW about lamp
[11:20] <calamari> are there any emulators that can allow me to run a Linux program that was compiled for a different cpu?
[11:20] <petros> because it doesn't use the whole space in my shell
[11:21] <pianoboy3333> ubotu: tell me about lamp
[11:21] <petros> can i set the column width or something?
[11:21] <_jason> RollyW: apache2 is in the repos too unless you rpefer apache for some reason
[11:21] <duck> just recompile :X
[11:21] <Rinuxl> Linux Apache Mysql Linux
[11:21] <RollyW> ive actually never used either, was going to experiment
[11:21] <dyrne> calamari: prog not available in synaptic?
[11:21] <gr33npho3nix> _jason: apache and apache2 are in the repos
[11:21] <calamari> dyrne: doesn't matter either way, I can compile if needs be
[11:21] <_jason> gr33npho3nix: yep
[11:22] <echilon> it won't let me edit the sudoers file to add my self
[11:22] <echilon> I'm beginning to hate linux once again
[11:22] <gr33npho3nix> echilon: you have to be root to do it
[11:22] <crash15> J'ai un ami qui essaye d'installer ubuntu. Mais quand il essaye d'appliquer les changements sur la partion il a comme erreur : Aucun systme de fichier n'a t choisi comme racine pourtant il a complt
[11:22] <soundray> echilon: it's a security measure.
[11:22] <gr33npho3nix> and you must edit it w\ visudo
[11:22] <echilon> but I can't log in as root, the password is always wrong
[11:22] <dyrne> echilon: are you using the account you created during install?
[11:22] <echilon> yes
[11:22] <im_a_muslim> As Salaam e laikum (means: Peace b upon u) ........... http://www.submission.org/ ......... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.
[11:22] <_jason> echilon: would you want anyone to be able to add themselves as a sudoer?
[11:22] <crash15> Il me dit que dans le point de montage y'a systme de fichier de racine /
[11:22] <_jason> !fr
[11:22] <ubotu> fr is, like, totally, Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[11:22] <soundray> echilon: the root password is disabled.
[11:23] <duck> echilon: start hating yourself then
[11:23] <dyrne> echilon: if so you should already be alble to sudo
[11:23] <calamari> dyrne: oh, I understand what you were asking now
[11:23] <duck> try gentoo
[11:23] <crash15> Vos geulles les anglais c'est FR ICI
[11:23] <soundray> echilon: what are you trying to do?
[11:23] <gr33npho3nix> echilon: google knoppix change root password
[11:23] <echilon> I'm trying but I just get 'wrong password'
[11:23] <crash15> J'ai un ami qui essaye d'installer ubuntu. Mais quand il essaye d'appliquer les changements sur la partion il a comme erreur : Aucun systme de fichier n'a t choisi comme racine pourtant il a complt
[11:23] <gr33npho3nix> you can use knoppix to change your root password
[11:23] <soundray> crash15: wrong channel. #ubuntu-fr
[11:23] <echilon> I want to copy something to /lib/modules, but I need to be root to do it
[11:23] <calamari> dyrne: no, this is a program our instructor gave us to test with, but it was compiled on the school system ,which is rather inconvenient
[11:23] <hermes> sudo gedit ...
[11:23] <dyrne> echilon: try sudo -i does it let you into a root term?
[11:24] <duck> use the root pass instead of your own pass when su'ing :X
[11:24] <echilon> yes
[11:24] <duck> sudo is gay anyway
[11:24] <erUSUL> echilon, sudo cp something /lib/modules
[11:24] <leobeta> lol
[11:24] <calamari> dyrne: so I'd like to run it on my home system
[11:24] <im_a_muslim> As Salaam e laikum (means: Peace b upon u) ........... http://www.submission.org/ ......... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.
[11:24] <dyrne> calamari: what app name?
[11:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell duck about gay
[11:24] <dyrne> calamari: or is it something he wrote?
[11:24] <calamari> dynre: "receiver" it's a networking class
[11:24] <calamari> yeah he wrote it
[11:25] <soundray> echilon: this shouldn't normally be necessary. Can you not install the module from a package?
[11:25] <calamari> we are writing the sender
[11:25] <echilon> soundray, it's the IEEE80211 driver set, I'm trying to get my IPW3945 working
[11:25] <Kr4t05> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9643
[11:26] <Kr4t05> That is my trouble with doom3
[11:26] <spine> can some one help me out with this little problem i have, i want my second monitor to blank out when i run fullscreen 3d apps, i have a radeon 9600XT with the latest propietary drivers
[11:26] <echilon> is there any obvious reason why cp would just omit directories when copying?
[11:26] <nitrosport_5> where do i get GNU Autoconf for ubuntu?
[11:26] <duck> cp -R ?
[11:26] <do_me_nice> damn read only file systems!
[11:27] <SGershon> echilon, you must use "cp -r" --> recursive
[11:27] <danc3> duck: sudo is "gay"?
[11:27] <Xappe> anyone knows how to connect to macosx vnc server with terminal server client? I get this error: http://www.delta.se/~jon/Screenshot-8.png
[11:27] <echilon> ah, finally :)
[11:27] <duck> I don't like it
[11:27] <predius__> is there a way to use the windows key with another key as a hotkey
[11:27] <danc3> duck: why not?
[11:27] <spine> just as good as su root
[11:27] <spine> lols
[11:27] <predius__> something like "windows + r"
[11:27] <soundray> echilon: have you considered ndiswrapper to get this working?
[11:27] <spine> can some one help me out with this little problem i have, i want my second monitor to blank out when i run fullscreen 3d apps, i have a radeon 9600XT with the latest propietary drivers
[11:28] <crouchingMonkey2> what line do i add to xorg.conf to get my monitor to display a 1200x1024 ?
[11:28] <duck> I don't see the point... why give a normal user root-ish access to everything with his own pass?
[11:28] <danc3> duck: you don't if you set up sudo correctly
[11:28] <nitrosport_5> where do i get GNU Autoconf for ubuntu?
[11:28] <spine> duck, its not suppossed to be the same password, tho everyone uses the same pass
[11:28] <iBalo> duck: for the same reasons and considerations OSX is doing it
[11:28] <pianoboy3333> I need help with a ATI OpenGL problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=786639#post786639
[11:29] <soundray> echilon: are you on breezy?
[11:29] <duck> and what reasons does osx have for it?
[11:29] <lampshade> sudo can have its downsides too.  Like now for example, I'm in the habit of just typing sudo in front of everything cause I usually have to do that anyway.  That's pretty well just as bad as running root.  So in the long run I personally cant decide which is better
[11:29] <duck> besides a retarded userbase
[11:29] <spine> duck, usefullness u cant seem to see
[11:29] <hermes> how do you change then the password of the sudo?
[11:29] <danc3> duck: are  you a n00b?
[11:29] <soundray> duck, unless you have a support question or want to help, I suggest you find another channel.
[11:29] <iBalo> duck: if you need a real root terminal you can still go sudo -s
[11:29] <lampshade> duck, OSX wins.  Linux wishes it could be OSX a lot of the time
[11:30] <spine> can some one help me out with this little problem i have, i want my second monitor to blank out when i run fullscreen 3d apps, i have a radeon 9600XT with the latest propietary drivers......PLZ!
[11:30] <duck>  spineduck, its not suppossed to be the same password, tho everyone uses the same pass << it was the same as my user account per default :S
[11:30] <danc3> duck: then set sudo up properly!!!
[11:30] <nitrosport_5> where do i get GNU Autoconf for ubuntu?
[11:30] <duck> nah
[11:30] <danc3> noob
[11:30] <spine> danc3, lmao
[11:30] <ryan> hey guys
[11:30] <duck> I don't use sudo
[11:30] <ryan> i have a question
[11:30] <danc3> because you're a noob
[11:30] <soundray> echilon, ping
[11:30] <do_me_nice> hey, i want to copy a file from my ntfs windows partion onto my linux partion... how would i do that... it tells me its read only... is there any way around this?
[11:30] <spine> thats fine dude su root 4 ever, leave us out
[11:30] <duck> so I'm a noob... explain it's frigging purpose
[11:31] <danc3> no
[11:31] <leobeta> whats the difference between sudo and su ?
[11:31] <danc3> read it yourself
[11:31] <leobeta> the real deal
[11:31] <erUSUL> nitrosport_5, apt-get install build-essentials
[11:31] <lampshade> do_me_nice, umm you mean it is write protected after you copied it or it doesn't copy?
[11:31] <leobeta> what is it?
[11:31] <dyrne> do_me_nice: sudo gedit /etc/fstab find the line for that partition and change the options column to umask=000,defaults
[11:31] <ryan> does anyone know of a program like limewire
[11:31] <do_me_nice> lampshade: it refuses to copy
[11:31] <dyrne> do_me_nice: then umount remount
[11:31] <lampshade> hmmm
[11:31] <spine> ryan, frostwaire
[11:31] <ryan> thats in the repositores
[11:31] <iBalo> OSX shows to Linux what can be done if efforts are centralized and egomania and neurosis is suppressed by economical considerations. More in #ubuntu-offtopi
[11:31] <erUSUL> do_me_nice, if it is read only you can copy it just with the gui
[11:31] <redguy> leobeta: su is "switch user", sudo is "superuser do"
[11:31] <spine> ryan, frostwire*
[11:31] <IdleOne> duck what is it you want to know ?
[11:31] <ryan> cool thanks
[11:31] <duck> nvm
[11:31] <duck> I'm reading it myself
[11:32] <ryan> i tried apollon but it wont work for some reason
[11:32] <leobeta> redguy: so sudo is safer
[11:32] <nitrosport_5> erUSUL i did that and it gave me this E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[11:32] <do_me_nice> erUSUL: i can only acess it through the terminal as a root user
[11:32] <IdleOne> duck tell me Ill explain if I can ()
[11:32] <torstein_> exit
[11:32] <lampshade> ryan, I don't think it is in the repos though I just checked
[11:32] <erUSUL> nitrosport_5, apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:32] <nitrosport_5> yea
[11:32] <erUSUL> !tell do_me_nice about windowsdrives
[11:32] <spine> ryan, frostwire is good, its just a limewire clone, and its open source
[11:32] <duck> I want to know why I should use sudo instead of su
[11:32] <redguy> leobeta: you can allow certain users to run only specified commands with root priviledges with sudo.
[11:33] <nitrosport_5> there we go it isnt essentials it is essential
[11:33] <_jason> duck: have you read the wiki page?
[11:33] <redguy> duck: because using su allows you to have root's password disabled
[11:33] <leobeta> redguy: yea, but the user must know the root pass, or how ?
[11:33] <erUSUL> !tell duck about sudo
[11:33] <ryan> do i have to download it from another source
[11:33] <redguy> duck: darn usind sudo of course
[11:33] <duck> IdleOne wanted to explain :)
[11:33] <danc3> duck is a n00b, who doesn't want to learn, or try to learn
[11:33] <danc3> ignored
[11:33] <soundray> ryan, check out other choices first: apt-cache search peer file sharing
[11:33] <duck> lol
[11:33] <duck> danc3 is an elitist
[11:33] <duck> :D
[11:33] <nitrosport_5> ok after i did that erUSUL, when i am trying to build bzflag it says it cant locate the gnu autoconf
[11:34] <redguy> leobeta: no, the user identifies with his own password
[11:34] <IdleOne> duck:  sudo = super user do ( using sudo forces you tho think before you do something that could be potentialy harmful to the system.
[11:34] <duck> ok
[11:34] <dyrne> duck: everyone kinda rebells against sudo when first moving to a debian type distro but if you give it a few weeks i think youll prefer it
[11:34] <lampshade> dyrne, I agree
[11:34] <soundray> dyrne: seconded
[11:34] <spine> duck, OK... you should because sudo works just like SU without giving all of the root access, so you would have less of a chance to pull a noob-move
[11:34] <erUSUL> nitrosport_5, apt-get install autoconf
[11:34] <lampshade> I hated it, but I like it now, except for the one problem that I tend to overdo it now for all commands like cat  and shit
[11:34] <redguy> dyrne: is sudo default in debian? since when? etch?
[11:35] <duck> I'm not that noob
[11:35] <_jason> spine: actually anything you can do with su you can do with sudo
[11:35] <ryan> is that dcc program good?
[11:35] <leobeta> redguy: ajam, so as root i must allow somehow that user to use sudo for something specific, is that right?
[11:35] <soundray> lampshade: I get 'man shit: No manual entry for shit'
[11:35] <nitrosport_5> thanks erUSUL it is downloading it now!
[11:35] <IdleOne> duck:  even experienced user make mistakes sumtimes.
[11:35] <soundray> lampshade: cat is there, though ;)
[11:35] <erUSUL> leobeta, yes
[11:35] <erUSUL> nitrosport_5, np
[11:35] <leobeta> i see
[11:36] <ryan> how do i launch that these programs once i get them
[11:36] <spine> duck, granted
[11:36] <spine> can some one help me out with this little problem i have, i want my second monitor to blank out when i run fullscreen 3d apps, i have a radeon 9600XT with the latest propietary drivers......PLZ!
[11:36] <SGershon> Hi. Is there a reason for using a "2048 bit" keysize on GPG, instead of "1024"? Is that really necessary?
[11:36] <leobeta> erUSUL: now i'm intriged about how i set those rules as root for some iser
[11:36] <erUSUL> leobeta, yes see 'man sudoers'
[11:36] <leobeta> user*
[11:36] <leobeta> oh
[11:36] <leobeta> ok, thx
[11:36] <soundray> ryan: usually the name of the main binary is the same as the package name.
[11:36] <ryan> thanks
[11:36] <lampshade> soundray, hahah I once laughed out loud in class when I looked at my friends screen and I saw him typing in this order "man ls"  then "man less"  then "man man" then all of a sudden I see "man whore"  and I had to excuse myself from the room I laughed so hard
[11:36] <redguy> leobeta: kindof, you can allow a certain user to do anything also. you can even configure sudo, so that it won't ask for a password. sudo is much more flexible than su, period.
[11:36] <duck> anyway, thanks guys
[11:36] <duck> I appreciate you helping a 'noob' ;)
[11:36] <soundray> ryan: failing that, you will find info in /usr/share/doc/[packagename]
[11:37] <redguy> leobeta: the sudo manpage is friendly, after the "language descrition" part
[11:37] <calamari> dyrne: found the app I was looking for: bintrans.. but it doesn't support amd64 so it looks like I'm out of luck.. hehe
[11:37] <SGershon> Specially when I se that gPG presents it now as 'default' size!
[11:37] <duck> mental note: don't bitch about sudo in here anymore :X
[11:37] <leobeta> thx u, ill get into that :)
[11:37] <SGershon> Hi. Is there a reason for using a "2048 bit" keysize on GPG, instead of "1024"? Is that really necessary?
[11:38] <lampshade> SGershon, my thoughts are, if you go for GPG security, why not go all out and do the max it can do
[11:38] <soundray> lampshade: can I pm you?
[11:38] <danc3> SGershon: no, it's not necessary
[11:38] <spine> duck, just configure it man, ul see its nice to not have to type ur password all the time
[11:38] <erUSUL> SGershon, i will choose a 4096 key size this days ;)
[11:38] <lampshade> soundray, yeah
[11:38] <GTX> !info net-snmp
[11:38] <SGershon> lampshade, it just sound too big.
[11:38] <GTX> Is there a package for net-snmp ?
[11:38] <GTX> I cant seem to find it
[11:38] <SGershon> erUSUL, LOL.
[11:38] <nitrosport_5> erUSUL after i did that it tells me i need automake 1.6 or higher. i did  apt-get install automake, it installed 1.4 but then it said it needed higher, so i did automake1.8 and it downloaded it but bzflag still thinks i have 1.4. what can i do?
[11:39] <duck> spine: I will :0
[11:39] <SGershon> erUSUL, It would be really paranoya!
[11:39] <redguy> nitrosport_5: maybe running sudo update-alternatives automake and selecting the 1.8 version would solve your probem
[11:40] <erUSUL> !info autoconf
[11:40] <ubotu> autoconf: (automatic configure script builder), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.59a-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 371 kB, Installed size: 1472 kB
[11:40] <ubuntu> Hola
[11:40] <nitrosport_5> sudo update-alternatives automake i did that and it said unknow aregument automake
[11:40] <erUSUL> nitrosport_5, in breezy it is v 2.59 as shown by the bot. are you running warty?
[11:41] <SGershon> !es
[11:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:41] <_jason> nitrosport_5: try update-alternatives --config automake
[11:41] <ubuntu> slut
[11:41] <GTX> _jason, You know any thing which runs on php/mysql and shows u how much ur doing per sec
[11:42] <_jason> GTX: nope
[11:42] <GTX> :L/
[11:42] <_jason> GTX: try the php and/or mysql channels maybe, if no one here knows
[11:42] <GTX> ;p
[11:42] <redguy> _jason: seems I should print "if you don't know, don't guess" somewhere ...
[11:43] <ryan> ok
[11:43] <ryan> im trying to download frostwire
[11:43] <nitrosport_5> YAY! thanks for all of the help _jason and erUSUl
[11:43] <ryan> i click on the linux download
[11:44] <ryan> and it says i cant open the file or whatever
[11:44] <amyn> from where i can download codecs of totem movie player for playing mpsz/movies of my mounted drives of xp
[11:44] <ryan> how do i install programs i download
[11:44] <amyn> ?
[11:44] <andi5> hm... i quite happily used the package libglib2.0-0-dbg (glib with debug symbols), but somehow it does not work any longer.... ldconfig does not create links in /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib ... is this intended (because everything seems to look for libglib-2.0.so.0) ... anyone? thanks in advance!!
[11:44] <_jason> ryan: is it a .deb?
[11:44] <ryan> no
[11:44] <soundray> !tell amyn about w32codecs
[11:44] <ryan> .rpm
[11:44] <soundray> amyn: read ubotu's message.
[11:45] <_jason> ryan: you are using ubuntu right?
[11:45] <ryan> yes
[11:45] <danc3> when does n00b hour end?
[11:45] <_jason> ryan: http://www.frostwire.com/static/downloads.html click on the one for ubuntu
[11:45] <duck> when danc3 leaves
[11:45] <lampshade> ryan, get the Ubuntu version of Frostwire from their site.  They have a package.  Download that, then sudo dpkg -i fileyoudownloaded
[11:45] <danc3> unbelieveable
[11:46] <pianoboy3333> ATI help please! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=786639#post786639
[11:46] <danc3> pianoboy3333: to fix any ATI problem, put it in the dumpster, and go buy an Nvidia video card.  Done.
[11:46] <imachine_> hello ;]
[11:46] <ryan> i cant find it at the site
[11:46] <duck> real helpful danc3
[11:46] <duck> wow
[11:47] <SGershon> So... What keysize are YOU using in your GPG keys?
[11:47] <ryan> wait i think i found it
[11:47] <danc3> SGershon: I'm not using GPG keys
[11:47] <duck> he's a n00b
[11:47] <duck> he doesn't know how to
[11:47] <ryan> ok now
[11:47] <imachine_> question - how can I use something like DMix ALSA extention on Ubuntu?
[11:47] <ryan> i have it
[11:47] <ryan> i dont know how to install it with sudo
[11:47] <_jason> ryan: where is it? desktop?
[11:47] <SGershon> danc3, LOL. You can answer on the size you would want to use, if you used GPG.
[11:47] <ryan> mainly because i dont know what sudo is
[11:47] <danc3> ryan: somebody already told you how!
[11:48] <ryan> i know
[11:48] <ryan> but
[11:48] <ryan> i dont understand it
[11:48] <erUSUL> !enter
[11:48] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:48] <imachine_> danc3, do you know perhaphs where i could read about such information?
[11:48] <danc3> SGershon: let me ask you this:  why do you think you need to use GPG keys?
[11:48] <IdleOne> !tell ryan  about sudo
[11:48] <danc3> imachine_: what information?
[11:48] <IdleOne> !tell ryan  about repos
[11:48] <IdleOne> !tell ryan  about cli
[11:48] <imachine_> cuz gpg keys are 1337
[11:48] <imachine_> ;d
[11:48] <danc3> right
[11:48] <SGershon> danc3, I have such secret things in my Conquer_The_World folder...
[11:48] <ryan> i know about the repos
[11:49] <imachine_> danc3, about using the dmix extension in alsa on ubuntu.
[11:49] <danc3> SGershon: yeah, that's what I thought
[11:49] <SGershon> There are many people in black suits trying to look at it!
[11:49] <SGershon> ;)
[11:49] <ryan> im confused
[11:49] <ryan> is ubuntu not linux then?
[11:49] <Sicka> I was given the following link http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdrip for getting dvd::rip to work; it is still not working properly. When I start up it says I'm missing a bunch of stuff. Most of it I already have, and the rest of it I can't seem to get through apt-get. I thought I updated my repositories correctly, but some of the stuff in the instructions is different from my sources.list and I think that it's because it's typed up for hoary
[11:49] <duck> not as confused as danc3, rest assured
[11:49] <danc3> imachine_: I don't know about any dmix extension
[11:49] <Sicka> someone help please?!
[11:49] <imachine_> danc3, its for software mixing in alsa.
[11:49] <imachine_> i have a soundcard without a hardware mixer onboard.
[11:49] <danc3> imachine_: what makes you think I know something about it?
[11:49] <redguy> Sicka: what are you missing
[11:50] <imachine_> or at least one supported by ubuntu.
[11:50] <imachine_> when i use winamp i get no voice in skype
[11:50] <pianoboy3333> danc3: yes.... I need to wait a couple months tho... can't go on much longer w/o bzflag...
[11:50] <imachine_> or so
[11:50] <imachine_> ;]
[11:50] <Sicka> redguy: just a sec let me look
[11:50] <ryan> im reading all this stuff
[11:50] <danc3> pianoboy3333: ok then
[11:50] <ryan> but
[11:50] <SGershon> I never really HAD to use GPG, but now I want to learn a bit about it.
[11:50] <ryan> i still dont understand it
[11:50] <soundray> ryan: you've found someone knowledgeable and helpful (_jason), why don't you try and listen to what he says?
[11:50] <danc3> ryan: but.... you're stupid?
[11:51] <_jason> ryan: please don't use enter as punctuation.  I'll talk you through it, just tell me where the file is, desktop?
[11:51] <ryan> um ok let me see
[11:51] <bimberi> ubotu tell danc3 about conduct
[11:51] <IdleOne> danc3:  theres is something very wrong with your attitude...change it or leave but stop being rude to ppl who are asking for help
[11:51] <lampshade> ryan, no, Ubuntu is linux, it is just that linux is generic, refers to just the kernel or brain.  You could use the Linux thing they have, but it will be easier to use the flavorr that is compatible, which is Ubuntu.
[11:51] <erUSUL> SGershon, no mean to be harsh but just use 2048 or 4096 and be done with it...
[11:51] <redguy> !ubuntuguide
[11:51] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:51] <Sicka> redguy: so far, ImageMagick and dvdxchap...
[11:51] <redguy> Sicka: see what ubotu thinks about ubuntuguide
[11:52] <ryan> thanks lampshade
[11:52] <ryan> ok i think its on the desktop
[11:52] <bimberi> ubotu tell SGershon about gpg
[11:52] <redguy> !info imagemagick
[11:52] <ubotu> imagemagick: (Image manipulation programs), section graphics, is optional. Version: 6:<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1301 kB, Installed size: 3688 kB
[11:52] <erUSUL> Sicka, are you using dapper?
[11:52] <ryan> its in a window that says downloads
[11:52] <lampshade> ryan, in other words, both will work, but it is probably a single command to make it work when you use the Ubuntu package.  (sometimes there will be dependencies it will need too but if that happens we can deal with that when it comes)
[11:52] <bimberi> good
[11:52] <Sicka> erUSUL: I'm not sure what that is
[11:52] <ryan> oh ok
[11:52] <_jason> ryan: ok, opena terminal by going to applications menu > accessories > terminal
[11:53] <ryan> ok there
[11:53] <SGershon> Thanks bimberi.
[11:53] <andrew_> hey all - does an LVM need to be formatted any particular way?
[11:53] <bimberi> SGershon: np, hopefully useful :)
[11:53] <SGershon> And thanks, erUSUL.
[11:53] <_jason> ryan: now type 'ls', does it list FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb ?
[11:53] <andrew_> like i have a physical partition and i want it to be xfs lvm
[11:53] <redguy> andrew_: explain: formatted
[11:54] <andrew_> um, let me rephrase my question. i have a blank partition and i want it to be xfs and expandable with lvm
[11:54] <ryan> no says gtk gnutella dowloads
[11:54] <Kr4t05> gee
[11:54] <Kr4t05> The people in #gaim are really mean. :(
[11:54] <soundray> andrew_: have you read the wiki stuff? See...
[11:54] <MrRio> Kr4t05: how come?
[11:54] <soundray> !lvm
[11:54] <RollyW> so are the people in #apache
[11:54] <ubotu> it has been said that lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[11:54] <Morfosomo> is it normal that firefox takes 100M ram to run?
[11:54] <Ng> Morfosomo: how are you measuring that?
[11:54] <erUSUL> SGershon, np. good luck with your "world domination plans" :D
[11:54] <soundray> andrew_: oops, not wiki, but nevertheless...
[11:54] <Ng> Morfosomo: and which version?
[11:55] <_jason> ryan: ok let's assume it went to downloads.  do 'cd downloads' and then 'ls', is it listed now?
[11:55] <nitrosport_5> im starting to like sudo
[11:55] <Sicka> I'm also missing dvdrecord
[11:55] <redguy> SGershon: and remeber who your real friends were, after you succeed :-)
[11:55] <Sicka> I have a feeling that would be an important one
[11:55] <erUSUL> Morfosomo, yes it may be. firefox is known for "leaking" memory
[11:55] <soundray> Morfosomo: yours is fairly modest...
[11:56] <SGershon> erUSUL, redguy, I think I've talked too much about it already... Shh! People are hearing!  ;)
[11:56] <ryan> cd downloads says no such file or directory
[11:56] <Ng> soundray: its memory usage is often misread and is easy to alter in 1.5
[11:56] <Kr4t05> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9643 having issues with Doom 3...
[11:56] <Morfosomo> 1.x am reading it off the services tab in system monitor tool
[11:56] <Yango_> how do I install all manpages? I did man syslog and didn't get anything, same goes for most of the C library functions
[11:56] <_jason> ryan: download the file again and put it on your desktop if you don't know where it is
[11:56] <ryan> ok
[11:56] <andrew_> anyone can help me out with lvm?
[11:56] <erUSUL> Yango_, apt-cache search manpages
[11:56] <ryan> ok
[11:57] <soundray> Ng: thanks, I'll look it up when I get fed up with restarting it ;)
[11:57] <Sicka> so is there any advice on my missing packages?
[11:57] <Morfosomo> the thing is my soundstreams from internet radio are chopping up i tested the connection and its not slow
[11:57] <Sicka> And what is dapper?
[11:57] <Ng> soundray: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/ben/ - see the february 14th entry
[11:57] <bimberi> Yango_: manpages-dev should have C library functions, not sure about syslog
[11:57] <Kaan-> how can i enlarge fonts in xmms or audacity?
[11:58] <Yango_> i was missing manpages-dev manpages-posix manpages-posix-dev
[11:58] <ryan> ok its on my desktop now
[11:58] <bimberi> Yango_: man syslogd ?
[11:58] <richard_> some now how can i write over fat32 partition?
[11:58] <redguy> Sicka: I would undo all changes that ubuntuguide suggested
[11:58] <_jason> ryan: heh I skipped a step before :), do 'cd ~/Desktop' make sure you use a capital D
[11:58] <erUSUL> Sicka, is the next version of ubuntu.
[11:58] <redguy> Sicka: also, do you have all repositories enabled?
[11:58] <^Ocean^> is there anything special i need todo to get the mic port working on my sound card? And permissions or anything that need to get changed ?
[11:58] <Sicka> redguy: I already disabled the changes from ubuntu guide...
[11:58] <Sicka> and let me check my repositories in synaptic...
[11:59] <ryan> still says no such file or directory
[11:59] <ryan> i typed in cd~/Desktop
[11:59] <IdleOne> add a space afater cd
[11:59] <Sicka> redguy: A couple are disabled, should i check them?
[12:00] <_jason> ryan: 'cd ~/Desktop', there is a space
[12:00] <IdleOne> after*


[17:28] <blackboxsw> falcojr: Odd_Bloke minor PR for that SRU template for manual cloud tests: https://github.com/cloud-init/ubuntu-sru/pull/167
[19:59] <Odd_Bloke> falcojr: blackboxsw: lucasmoura: I've populated https://trello.com/c/o0Pc1jdv/9-manually-verify-each-commit-that-represents-a-functional-change-to-ubuntu with a variety of checklists.  I'm planning on running through all of the tests that we currently have automation for and generating output to put into the verification repo, so I've put my face on those; I've also put faces on the items that James and I
[19:59] <Odd_Bloke> have in-progress to my knowledge.
[19:59] <Odd_Bloke> (Please do make sure I've put your face on anything you're working on that I missed!
[20:00] <falcojr> I've been going through some pre-runs in the background
[20:00] <falcojr> So far so good
[20:20] <falcojr> Odd_Bloke: what is meant by the "Commits with automation that need the output added to the repo" heading?
[20:22] <falcojr> don't we need output from every test?
[20:28] <Odd_Bloke> falcojr: "Commits for which the only remaining thing that needs doing is adding the output to the repo"
[20:28] <Odd_Bloke> I've changed it to "Commits with existing automation that just need the output added to the repo"
[20:29] <falcojr> gotcha, thanks
[22:28] <Odd_Bloke> Small PR to add timestamps to pytest logging output: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/720/
[22:30] <falcojr> approved
[23:11] <Odd_Bloke> Thanks!