[17:37] <czajkowski> anyone around that knows much about sound
[17:38] <czajkowski> playing it via rhythmbox gives me sound, but playing any other application gives me no sound.
[19:10] <mlankhorst> ok I arrived
[19:10] <mlankhorst> czajkowski: what does lsof /dev/snd/* say ?
[19:11] <czajkowski> mlankhorst: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1671637/
[19:12] <czajkowski> mlankhorst: have switched into guest user asthere I have sound :/
[19:13] <mlankhorst> what if you just killall pulseaudio and see if sound comes back online?
[19:13] <czajkowski> let me boot back into my ac
[19:13] <czajkowski> two ticks
[19:14]  * mlankhorst needs to establish a vpn to home :s
[19:14] <czajkowski> mlankhorst: that gives me back sound
[19:15] <mlankhorst> yeah was suspicious that pulseaudio had control open but not the pcm thing
[19:16] <czajkowski> cant change volume except from the application itself
[19:16] <czajkowski> but it's better than where I was a few hours ago
[19:16] <czajkowski> thanks mlankhorst
[19:16] <mlankhorst> np
[19:17] <czajkowski> mlankhorst: no idea why it happened just done a bunch of updates and then no sound. most anoying
[19:17] <czajkowski> but thanks for the help
[19:22] <mlankhorst> you're welcome :)
[19:39] <czajkowski> mlankhorst: you on 13.04 by any chance?
[19:46] <mlankhorst> czajkowski: depends on which laptop
[19:46] <mlankhorst> i think i upgraded my eee, not 100% sure
[19:47] <czajkowski> mlankhorst: trying to see if it;s my machine being special or a bug, but when I go to shut down from the main login screen it hangs and will not shut down and is stuck at the text box screen
[19:48] <mlankhorst> seems to work for me
[19:48] <czajkowski> bugger
[19:48] <czajkowski> cheers
[20:27] <Laney> meow
[20:29] <ogra_> woof
[20:30] <Laney> mlankhorst: you here?
[20:32] <mlankhorst> Laney: yes
[20:33] <Laney> nice
[20:33] <Laney> how about that mood pad
[20:34] <mlankhorst> ..?
[20:34] <Laney> that's what they call the tablet in the room
[20:34] <mlankhorst> oh I put it on its face since turning off just makes it turn itself back on and i hated the light
[20:34] <mlankhorst> do you have a creepy doll in your room too with your name on it?
[20:35] <ogra_> are you guys sure you are in the right hote ?
[20:35] <Laney> doesn't have my name but it is rather creepy
[20:35] <ogra_> *hotel
[20:35] <ogra_> dolls in rooms etc ...
[20:37] <mlankhorst> ogra_: what is your room #? I'll show it
[20:37] <ogra_> mlankhorst, i'm not -desktop so i wasnt invited
[20:37] <ogra_> :/
[20:37] <Laney> :(
[20:38] <czajkowski> mlankhorst: what made you think to know to killall pulseaudio btw ?
[20:39] <mlankhorst> czajkowski: normally it should show pcm* is open
[20:41] <mlankhorst> by pulseaudio, sometimes if it crashes some other app steals it and you don't get sound from normal applications, but I toy with pulseaudio too much and sometimes mess up the installation so that happens :S
[20:42] <czajkowski> mlankhorst: done it again now 2-3 times since
[20:42] <czajkowski> :/
[20:42] <czajkowski> no idea why but now I know at least how to get sound back
[20:42] <mlankhorst> oh then something is more seriously wrong
[20:43] <mlankhorst> Laney: you're a debian developer right?
[20:47] <Laney> correct
[20:48] <mlankhorst> want to sign my canonical gpg key?
[20:48] <Laney> you have multiple?
[20:48] <Laney> yeah sure, i'll do it tomorrow
[20:48] <Laney> get seb to as well (and RAOF)
[20:50] <mlankhorst> yeah lost passphrase to my gmail key, never make 2 passphrases that have the same theme
[20:50] <Laney> + keep a revcert
[20:52] <Laney> ttyl!
[20:54] <mlankhorst> yeah I have one now for the other one
[20:54] <mlankhorst> still from time to time I try to crack my initial one


[14:47] <tdaitx> doko, I would like to get your opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-7/+bug/1518741
[14:50] <doko> tdaitx, nah, no pkgconfig file. I think the comment from the one fedora guy was pretty clear
[14:52] <tdaitx> doko, I agree, I talked quickly to steve about it and he also is of the same opinion... anyway, if something should be done it should be upstream but pkgconfig does not seem the right tool for the job
[14:54] <tdaitx> doko, anyway, since we are all in agreement, we need to close it as wont fix, but I am unable to do it (option is grayed out as I probably don't have the permissions to do so)
[14:55] <doko> ohh, maybe ask bdmurray (?) to give you permissions?
[15:48] <tdaitx> doko, thanks, I have done that
[19:59] <tdaitx> doko, I have been wondering why we are using a newer jamvm than IcedTea, could you give me some pointers on that?