[22:52] <tables> and another computer on my network is set up to use the wifi th eprinter has
[22:52] <EvilResistance> tables:  your wifi printer needs to be connected to a wifi netowrk in order to use wireless network print
[22:52] <tables> hmm
[22:53] <tables> oh
[22:53] <somsip> tables: maybe worth looking at the cups interface https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersCanonPrintersCanonMP620
[22:53] <bullgard6> sanderlt: In those cases simply press Ctrl+Alt+F1, and you can login on a virtuel terminal.
[22:53] <diverdude> What is the httpd binary renamed to in ubuntu?
[22:53] <diverdude> and where is it located?
[22:53] <bullgard6> s/virtuel/virtual/
[22:53] <tables> ok, thx, i thought the printer wasn't connected to network for some reason
[22:53] <MahaVishnu> alsoeric$ according to the pastebin I told you to make you already have them
[22:54] <MeQuerSat> diverdude, what server backend? (apache/lighttpd)
[22:54] <diverdude> MeQuerSat,  apache2
[22:54] <sc30317> does anyone know why when I run a game in Ubuntu 11.10 my whole computer locks up, but every other time is fine?  I have 2 ati cards driving 3 monitors with xinerama, that may be the issue?
[22:54] <alsoeric> MahaVishnu, what next
[22:54] <codepal> how might I rebuild the gnome menu in ubuntu 10.04?
[22:55] <MeQuerSat> diverdude, do you have GUI access or only command line?
[22:55] <MahaVishnu> alsoeric$ did you do both commands I told you?
[22:55] <sanderlt> bullgard6: sorry, for my English, but anyway if I do like you say, X server will be still open
[22:55] <rarillo> diverdude
[22:55] <tables> no the wifi printer is not connected to my network
[22:55] <diverdude> MeQuerSat, i have gui access to ubuntu
[22:55] <tables> it's just wifi
[22:55] <MeQuerSat> diverdude, you can open synaptic, right click the apache2 package and see the list "Installed files"
[22:55] <rarillo> whereis httpd
[22:55] <rarillo> write this in terminal
[22:55] <diverdude> MeQuerSat, how do i do it in commandline?
[22:55] <brightspark> sc30317, I wouldn't assume that's the problem, but you could check- disable one card/unplug some monitors and see if it gets better.
[22:55] <tables> EvilResistance, are you 100% about wifi printer has to be connected to my network to print?
[22:55] <MeQuerSat> diverdude, what rarillo mentioned would be good
[22:55] <rarillo> whereis httpd, diverdude
[22:55] <tables> EvilResistance, nevermind, i'm dumb, yea it does
[22:56] <EvilResistance> tables:  yeah i'm 1000% sure
[22:56] <diverdude> rarillo, no its not called httpd on ubuntu
[22:56] <EvilResistance> i've set up wifi printers for office networks too :P
[22:56] <diverdude> its called something else i think
[22:56] <rarillo> yes
[22:56] <rarillo> it is
[22:56] <EvilResistance> rarillo:  its called apache2 on ubuntu
[22:56] <rarillo> in my ubuntu its httpd xD
[22:56] <bullgard6> diverdude: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[22:57] <rarillo> anyway, whereis apache2
[22:57] <bobalazs> hey ya guys how can i edit xorg.conf from root shell? or remove it?
[22:57] <rarillo> it will give you the path
[22:57] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ your back! lol
[22:57] <somsip> diverdude: /usr/sbin/apache2 ?
[22:57] <sanderlt> bullgard6: thanks anyway..
[22:57] <rarillo> bobalazs, vim /path/to/xorg.conf
[22:57] <bobalazs> yeah i cant boot x
[22:57] <rarillo> Or nano
[22:57] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ why not?
[22:58] <YeeP> has anyone tried installing reactOS on virtualbox 4.1.6r74713, in ubuntu 11.10? It keeps crashing right at start of install. reactos people telling me it is because the virtualbox version an it's "VT-x" issues...
[22:58] <bullgard6> sanderlt: Yes, in that case the X server is still on. You can switch it off if you like.
[22:58] <bobalazs> got a blank screen- and i thought i did everything right
[22:58] <MeQuerSat> bobalazs, you can edit it by running "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[22:58] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ you can also pastebin that file so we can all take a look
[22:58] <diverdude> somsip, i dont think thats httpd
[22:58] <MeQuerSat> bobalazs, from a root shell, you can remove "sudo"
[22:58] <bobalazs> rarillo vim is not installed alternative?:
[22:59] <MeQuerSat> bobalazs, id suggest you try "nano" first, vim is complicated :o
[22:59] <bobalazs> nano worked great
[22:59] <bobalazs> thanks
[22:59] <sanderlt> bullgard6: it possible to kill x from another terminal?
[22:59] <bobalazs> i dont have to add inputdevice and so on for sections do i?
[23:00] <rarillo> i just know how to edit xorg.conf, but i never did it
[23:01] <brightspark> sanderlt, run "sudo service gdm stop" I think.
[23:01] <MeQuerSat> sanderlt, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:01] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ I don't *think* you do
[23:01] <MeQuerSat> sanderlt, brightsparks solution is nicer
[23:01] <bobalazs> ideal horizsync and vertrefresh for a 21 inch led monitor is?
[23:02] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ find out by doing cvt 1024 768 or something
[23:02] <alsoeric_> bak
[23:02] <somsip> diverdude: so what are you trying to find? a file called httpd that's installed as part of the apache2 package?
[23:02] <alsoeric_> bak
[23:02] <alsoeric_> yet another flash lokup
[23:03] <sanderlt> bullgard6: cheers buddy.. good night
[23:03] <bullgard6> sanderlt: Try xkill.
[23:03] <bobalazs> MahaVishnu what command gives the boardname and BusID?
[23:03] <sanderlt> is not working in ububu
[23:03] <MeQuerSat> bullgard6, that wont work for what he wants
[23:03] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ do lspci | grep vga
[23:03] <alsoeric_> took 10 seconds of video to freeze the system needed power cycle to bring it back
[23:03] <mattswe> somsip: thanks, that helped!
[23:03] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ or just lspci and search for the vga line
[23:03] <sanderlt> CHEERS EVERYONE!!!
[23:04] <somsip> mattswe: I don't remember what it was, but you're welcome
[23:04] <the^user> is there some on that have a hdi dune max
[23:04] <mattswe> :}
[23:04] <bobalazs> MahaVishnu Error writing xorg.conf: Read-only file system .... solution?
[23:04] <alsoeric_> every so often I an do somehting an xorg server is at 100%cpy
[23:04] <bullgard6> MeQuerSat: Why don't you help him if you know better?
[23:04] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ use sudo ?
[23:04] <sc30317> brightspark, thanks
[23:04] <bobalazs> ya
[23:04] <MeQuerSat> bullgard6, I already did ;)
[23:04] <sc30317> do you think it would more likely be the cards or the xinerama
[23:05] <bobalazs> MahaVishnu yes
[23:05] <MeQuerSat> sc30317, to be honest: with AMD, its probably both
[23:05] <RyuGuns> hELLO
[23:05] <bobalazs> MahaVishnu you dont need that anyways at root shell
[23:05] <MahaVishnu> I didnt know you were in root shell
[23:05] <RyuGuns> ...Sorry, anyway, my printer is not printing anything.
[23:06] <sc30317> MeQuerSat, yea :\
[23:06] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ is your / mounted rw ?
[23:06] <bobalazs> MahaVishnu i cant load X :/
[23:06] <RyuGuns> Ubuntu just gives a notice about low ink, but all the windows machines print it anyway...
[23:06] <MeQuerSat> bobalazs, to start X, you executed "startx" ?
[23:06] <RyuGuns> How can I get ubuntu to just print it anyway?
[23:06] <aaron_> hello there i have a laptop hp 620 my sound card the sound output is creating is very low, volume in windows it sounds much better than now.
[23:06] <n00b> plz I have installed ubuntu today and applied all updates but when i boot my system freezes and it works after about 30 seconds pause using 11.10 and dmesg have this error init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (1419) terminated with status 1
[23:06] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[23:06] <bobalazs> MahaVishnu how can i check? MeQuerSat yes
[23:07] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ check with command mount
[23:07] <bobalazs> i have no network
[23:07] <MeQuerSat> aaron_, you can execute "alsamixer" from the Terminal and turn up several options there
[23:07] <aaron_> MeQuerSat, there already up 100 %
[23:07] <alsoeric_> MahaVishnu, MeQuerSat  any other ideas for making flash work?
[23:08] <MahaVishnu> alsoeric_$ it just doesn't work ?
[23:08] <aaron_> but the funny thing is when i'm playing a song with audacious and youtube and then youtube does not create no sound back so that's odd.
[23:08] <alsoeric_> MahaVishnu, MeQuerSat  100k 10 se to lockup
[23:08] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[23:08] <alsoeric_> MahaVishnu, MeQuerSat  took  10 sec to lockup
[23:08] <MeQuerSat> which version does it display?
[23:09] <alsoeric_> not sure
[23:09] <alsoeric_> how tell?
[23:09] <bobalazs> MahaVishnu (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
[23:09] <MeQuerSat> aaron_, thats because audacious probably takes control over the whole soundsystem
[23:09] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, cant you view that apge?
[23:09] <MeQuerSat> page*
[23:09] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ then you should be able to write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:09] <MahaVishnu> bobalazs$ to help you I NEED to see that file.
[23:10] <bobalazs> MahaVishnu meh. how can i remove it?
[23:10] <MeQuerSat> ...
[23:10] <MahaVishnu> dude
[23:10] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat, no.  hulu video locks before you can do anything
[23:10] <MahaVishnu> do you want me to help you or not.
[23:10] <dany> hi guys need help to connect my ubuntu 10.04 with the wireless
[23:10] <Si2100> dany, whats your wireless card?
[23:10] <bobalazs> MahaVishnu i will send that file once i get into x
[23:10] <dany> Si2100, how do i know it
[23:11] <Si2100> er.. 2 secs
[23:11] <brightspark> dany, lspci
[23:11] <MeQuerSat> Its an AR9485
[23:11] <brightspark> ^run that in the terminal
[23:11] <Si2100> thanks brightspark
[23:11] <n00b> what is  this error mean in dmesg init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (1419) terminated with status 1
[23:11] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat, I've noticed xorg runs at 100% sometimes and I'm running dual monitor and nvida
[23:11] <MeQuerSat> Si2100, I helped him some time ago, he has an Atheros AR9485
[23:12] <Si2100> Okie
[23:12] <MeQuerSat> Si2100, but I couldnt find if its supposed to be supported or not
[23:12] <Emiru> how do I permanently disable the screen saver ?
[23:12] <dany> Si2100, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771692/
[23:12] <MahaVishnu> Emiru$ where the screen goes blank or an actual screen saver ?
[23:12] <labcoattech> hi all
[23:13] <FreezingCold> Hi, I'm trying to backup my computer through SSH and I want to pipe it
[23:13] <dany> brightspark, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771692/
[23:13] <Emiru> MahaVishnu: When it goes black
[23:13] <chamunks> Does anyone know if fglrx is anywhere near compatible with gnome3 yet?
[23:13] <MeQuerSat> FreezingCold, for backing up remotely, I suggest using rsync
[23:13] <chamunks> Ati apparently promised a fix by the end of november.
[23:14] <Si2100> dany, try thus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5703118&postcount=3
[23:14] <MahaVishnu> Emiru$ gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the monitor section remove Option        "DPMS"   then sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart and it will take  you back to login screen. it should not black after that. *might require a reboot but I donot believe so*
[23:14] <FreezingCold> MeQuerSat: I don't have rsync, I only have SSH open and I'm not allowed to open anything else, work policy
[23:14] <Emiru> MahaVishnu: Thanks a lot mate, appreciate it :)
[23:14] <MeQuerSat> Si2100, wrong wifi card?
[23:14] <chamunks> Who knew that even if AMD bought ATI they still wouldn't improve their driver releases at all.
[23:14] <MahaVishnu> Emiru$ no problem.
[23:14] <bobalazs> so then, how do i go about removing xorg.conf if the file system is said to be read-only when it isin fact  mounted
[23:14] <MeQuerSat> FreezingCold, wow, that sucks
[23:14] <Relondo> Hey, everyone. My Ubuntu won't boot-I've got it installed, and supposedly my computer should default to Ubuntu, but it just boots straight to Windows XP with no menus.
[23:15] <FreezingCold> MeQuerSat: Yeah, I know there must be some way I can pipe it through with cat and tar
[23:15] <Si2100> MrQuerSat, would it hurt to try it ?
[23:15] <kasad> hey guys, how can i disable sleep from command line (i have server installed so no gui), my plesk install fails because comp goes to sleep
[23:15] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ boot an ubuntu live cd and do a sudo grub-install on /dev/sda make sure you do it on the root of the drive not a partition like /dev/sda1
[23:15] <MeQuerSat> FreezingCold, it could
[23:15] <MeQuerSat> I meant that for Si2100  ^
[23:16] <dany> Si2100, i don't understand this documentation
[23:16] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, Hold on. Too much tech-speak there. I understand what the grub is, but sudo-grub?
[23:16] <harry_> I'm using linux mint 11 but for some reason haven't been able to connect to the linux mint x-chat server all evening. Any ideas?
[23:16] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ you prefix the command with sudo cause you need root access to do sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[23:16] <MeQuerSat> FreezingCold, cant just login via FileZilla ssh and copy the files?
[23:16] <mneptok> FreezingCold: rsync works over ssh
[23:16] <Si2100> dany, i think its saying you need to get this " madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>" driver for your wirelesscard to work
[23:17] <kasad> how to disable sleep from command line, anyone?
[23:17] <FreezingCold> MeQuerSat: No, that's scp
[23:17] <amine> bonsoir a tous
[23:17] <dany> Si2100, can you guid me to how doing that
[23:17] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, I'm not doing this through command line.
[23:17] <FreezingCold> mneptok: Wait, how does rsync work?
[23:17] <Si2100> dany, Yeah ill try
[23:17] <MeQuerSat> Si2100, that a different Atheros card, it wont work...
[23:17] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ well that *IS* what you need to do brother.
[23:17] <MahaVishnu> open a virtual terminal
[23:17] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, Oh. I don't know how.
[23:17] <MahaVishnu> ctrl+t ?
[23:17] <dany> Si2100, thanks , tell me what to do , i will follow your steps
[23:17] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, I'm new to this.
[23:18] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ no problem :-)
[23:18] <mneptok> FreezingCold: rsync syncs data. it can be incremental, mirrored, etc etc. it can use different transport protocols, ssh being one of them.
[23:18] <Si2100> MeQuersat, would the driver work for it thought
[23:18] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, Hold on, BRB.
[23:18] <dusf_> is there a way to check from terminal if a drive is logical or primary? gparted is not an option
[23:18] <brightspark> kasad, see this url, you should be able to adapt it to a non-gui editor:
[23:18] <dusf_> perhaps something like fdisk?
[23:18] <mneptok> FreezingCold: in fact, scp uses ssh as a transport protocol, too. so scp works over ssh.
[23:18] <brightspark> http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/disable-suspend-and-hibernate-ubuntu/
[23:18] <amine> bonne surfffffffffffffff a tous
[23:18] <kasad> brightspark: thanks
[23:19] <FreezingCold> mneptok: It's like a router with nothing but the basics, and it rejects scp for some reason
[23:19] <dany> Si2100, i can install teamviewer if it working for ubuntu and give u access
[23:19] <MeQuerSat> Si2100, I would take the simple way and install "wicd"
[23:19] <Si2100> dany, an just looking at Google, and reading teh somethink
[23:19] <MeQuerSat> see if that enables the wifi-card to be utilized
[23:19] <Si2100> yeah
[23:19] <Si2100> try it then
[23:20] <MahaVishnu> dany$ what is wrong with your wifi card man ??
[23:20] <mneptok> FreezingCold: scp uses ssh and its port (22). you may not have the ability to form interactive sessions.
[23:20] <FreezingCold> mneptok: it says "sh scp not found" or something like that
[23:20] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, Actually, I need to go for about twenty minutes.
[23:20] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, Will you probably be on then?
[23:20] <MahaVishnu> nah im gonna go eat dinner at 6:30
[23:20] <dany> MahaVishnu, i don't know , it's just not working in ubuntu 10.04 , but it's fine with windows 7
[23:20] <mneptok> FreezingCold: on a Linux machine?
[23:21] <dany> MahaVishnu, can u help on that plz
[23:21] <MahaVishnu> ill be back later after that probably
[23:21] <Si2100> dany, have you checked the aditional drivers /
[23:21] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, Alright, thanks. I'm sure someone else can help too :)
[23:21] <WaraudonX> I want to flush the route table on a Ubuntu Server acting as a gateway, but I don't want it to remove the routing table for the network interfaces. Possible?
[23:21] <MahaVishnu> dany$ can you describe just not working? what have you tried? I heard someone said its an atheros card
[23:21] <dany> MahaVishnu, i have no idea how to do that (New with linux)
[23:21] <MeQuerSat> dany, how do you mean it "doesnt work", can you view any wifi routers nearby?
[23:21] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat,  MahaVishnu:  thanks for the help. I'll assume that flash is not a viable option for me at this time
[23:22] <Si2100> Yeah, mahavishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771692/
[23:22] <MahaVishnu> alsoeric_$ I don't see why not. is it just not showing ANY flash ??
[23:22] <Si2100> thats what he gave me
[23:22] <dany> MahaVishnu, no there is no wifi detected , i don't know if it's atheros or something else
[23:22] <Gary_B> whats the easiest way to get debug symbols?
[23:22] <brightspark> dany, do you know whether you have the drivers installed for your wireless card?
[23:22] <alsoeric_> MahaVishnu, flash *locks* my system
[23:22] <rarillo> Bye
[23:22] <brightspark> dany, on a new install these drivers are often not included by default
[23:22] <MahaVishnu> dany$ can you pastebin for me. lsmod | grep ath5k and sudo lshw -C network
[23:22] <MeQuerSat> Its an Atheros AR9485, I think its supported by athk9
[23:22] <dany> MahaVishnu, no i have no idea abt that
[23:23] <dany> MahaVishnu, okay
[23:23] <MahaVishnu> dany
[23:23] <MahaVishnu> lsmod | grep ath
[23:23] <alsoeric_> MahaVishnu, I can not recover without pulling power
[23:23] <mneptok> alsoeric_: how was Flash installed?
[23:23] <MeQuerSat> MahaVishnu, its an AR9485 ;)
[23:23] <DolGuldur> byes
[23:23] <MahaVishnu> alsoeric_$ what are your specs?? old machine?? you have flash installed.
[23:23] <Si2100> dany, have you checked to see if the aditional drivers have got a driver for it ?
[23:23] <Gary_B> i seem to need symbols for libdl.so.2  libc.so.6 d-linux.so.2
[23:23] <alsoeric_> mneptok, first vis stock process.  really was not paying attentiond
[23:23] <MeQuerSat> MahaVishnu, Im just not sure if the AR9485 is supported by ath9k at the moment
[23:24] <mneptok> alsoeric_: on AMD64 or i686?
[23:24] <MahaVishnu> mneptok$ for alsoeric_  http://pastebin.com/ScCh3L8G
[23:24] <alsoeric_> MahaVishnu, then  I took the ubuntu forum advice and used flash-fix
[23:25] <dany> MahaVishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771698/
[23:25] <MahaVishnu> I told him to purge the i386 one and do a dpkg update adobe-flashplugin
[23:25] <dany> Si2100, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771698/
[23:25] <Si2100> Mahavishnu: product: AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[23:25] <labcoattech> is it possible to change the grub bootloader to something that is GUI
[23:26] <MahaVishnu> Si2100$ yea. I saw
[23:26] <skegeek> Where can I find settings telling GRUB menu to align correctly?
[23:26] <Si2100> =)
[23:26] <MahaVishnu> dany$ is it blank for lsmod | grep ath9k
[23:26] <MeQuerSat> Si2100, yeah, what I said about an hour ago xD
[23:26] <mneptok> alsoeric_ / MahaVishnu: last i knew the native AMD64 Flash plugin was not in the repos. instead you got the i686 Flash plugin, and nspluginwrapper. ugh.
[23:26] <Si2100> labcoattech: have a look for super-boot-manager on google
[23:26] <labcoattech> thanks
[23:26] <alsoeric_> when all options failed, a friend suggested a package that used nspluginwrapper
[23:26] <MahaVishnu> mneptok$ adobe-flashplugin *is* native 64bit
[23:27] <dany> MahaVishnu, yes
[23:27] <DolGuldur> byes
[23:27] <MeQuerSat> mneptok, adobe-flashplugin is native 64bit, flashplugin-installer is the wrapper setup
[23:27] <MahaVishnu> people get the i386 version by doing installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:27] <MeQuerSat> ^
[23:27] <rar> bye byes
[23:27] <dany> MahaVishnu, it's just as you saw , nothing show up with the first cmd
[23:27] <MahaVishnu> happened to me and I didn't know till I came here to help someone else
[23:27] <conntrack> haha
[23:27] <sumosu> i have a notebook without HDD. Boot hangs for 1 minute saying "ata1:link to slow to respond" and "SRST error". how could i fix this? i'd like to adjust the timeout, disable the probing or the ata altogether
[23:27] <conntrack> Like I didn't notice
[23:27] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat, MahaVishnu  the dpkg update option.  I wonder if I did  that
[23:27] <Si2100> or you could just go to adobe website and download it ??
[23:28] <MahaVishnu> alsoeric_$ lsmod | grep ath is different from lsmod | grep ath5k
[23:28] <alsoeric_> sudo dpkg update adobe-flashplugin
[23:28] <alsoeric_> dpkg: error: need an action option
[23:28] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, you need to use apt-get
[23:28] <MeQuerSat> "dpkg" has different options
[23:28] <MahaVishnu> sry lol
[23:28] <MahaVishnu> sudo dpkg-update adobe-flashplugin
[23:28] <MeQuerSat> that would be it
[23:29] <MahaVishnu> I try to go too fast some times.
[23:29] <Si2100> i do that =)
[23:29] <MahaVishnu> or you can just do 'flash'
[23:29] <MahaVishnu> that also works for me
[23:29] <dany> MahaVishnu, what i have to do ?
[23:29] <kasad> no luck, can't disable sleep from cmdline
[23:30] <kasad> anyone else have some ideas? it's really annoying me
[23:30] <alsoeric_> no dpkg-update
[23:30] <MahaVishnu> dany$ well, did you install the propreitary drivers in the app. for your atheros? cause lshw is showing no driver/module loaded for your wireless card
[23:30] <kasad> (i don't have any gui installed btw)
[23:30] <MahaVishnu> kasad$ sleep like a black screen?
[23:30] <ImTheDude> pacistan
[23:30] <kasad> MahaVishnu yes
[23:30] <Si2100> mahavishnu, therefore it woundnt work... xD
[23:30] <kasad> MahaVishnu it borks my plesk setup
[23:30] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, did you already do "sudo apt-get remove --purge adobe-flashplugin:i386" ?
[23:30] <MahaVishnu> kasad$ remove option "DPMS" from your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:31] <dany> MahaVishnu, how to install it ?
[23:31] <ImTheDude> oops
[23:31] <alsoeric_> yes
[23:31] <MahaVishnu> Si2100$ indeed
[23:31] <Si2100> xD
[23:31] <Si2100> dany, check if theres anything in the hardware drivers,
[23:31] <MeQuerSat> dany, search for "driver" and click on the program called "Additional Drivers"
[23:31] <MahaVishnu> yea meng
[23:31] <MahaVishnu> ^
[23:32] <OerHeks> kasad, Ensure that all Powermanagement Settings in your machine's BIOS are disabled.
[23:32] <kasad> MahaVishnu: i don't have xorg.conf, no gui installed
[23:32] <brightspark> kasad, is it screenblank or suspend you are having trouble with (does it stop the hard disk & fans or just turn off the monitor)
[23:32] <kasad> MahaVishnu: it's fresh install and i have only sshd installed atm, no xwindos
[23:32] <kasad> brightspark: yeah it's suspend it's a laptop
[23:33] <MahaVishnu> oh its suspend
[23:33] <MahaVishnu> idk then..
[23:33] <lnx_1> Does anyone have experience setting up Mutt? more specifically the .fetchmailrc file?
[23:33] <kasad> brightspark: it's a laptop which i am going to turn into new test server because old one is like really old
[23:33] <kasad> brightspark: and this old laptop saves me one UPS :P
[23:33] <MeQuerSat> laptop as server :S
[23:33] <Si2100> sounds funny ?
[23:33] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat, yes, I did the remove and adobe-flashplugins are up to date
[23:33] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, did you also restart firefox?
[23:34] <dany> MahaVishnu, where to search
[23:34] <alsoeric_> yes
[23:34] <kasad> MeQuerSat: it's fine for my needs it's only a test server
[23:34] <Si2100> dany, you need to go to System > perfrances > aditions drive or Aditions hardware or Hardware dirvers
[23:34] <kasad> MeQuerSat: it has better hardware then my current test server which served me well for years
[23:34] <Si2100> i forget..
[23:34] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, type this in Firefox: about:plugins
[23:34] <MeQuerSat> and check for flash
[23:34] <MahaVishnu> gtg dinner time bbl
[23:34] <Si2100> Cyaa
[23:35] <MeQuerSat> cya MahaVishnu
[23:35] <kasad> OerHeks: i did check the bios first, thanks for the tip tho
[23:35] <MeQuerSat> kasad, "sudo nano /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.policy"
[23:36] <MeQuerSat> then search for "<allow_active>yes</allow_active>"
[23:36] <MeQuerSat> change it to "no"
[23:36] <jrib1> lnx_1: you should just ask your real question
[23:36] <dany> Si2100, sys>admi>hardware drivers
[23:36] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat, found shockwave-flash
[23:36] <Si2100> yea
[23:36] <kasad> MeQuerSat: thanks, lemme try it
[23:36] <Si2100> dany, Yeah and let it search and tell me what comes up
[23:36] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, which version?
[23:36] <kasad> gotcha, brb
[23:37] <alsoeric_> Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102
[23:37] <Blue1> !pastebin
[23:37] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, thats the correct version, it should work
[23:37] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, if you really wanna be sure, you can try a reboot and see again
[23:38] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat, I know.  could it be a side effect of my video setup?
[23:38] <dany> Si2100,  there is no option for search , but there is message in french , i can tell what does it mean in english "there no hardware driver in use in the system
[23:38] <MeQuerSat> alsoeric_, big chance it is
[23:38] <kasad> MeQuerSat: i don't have polkit-1 folder
[23:38] <Si2100> dany, hmmm that means that Ubuntu ant liking it, so we must turn to google
[23:39] <Si2100> unless anyone else can help
[23:39] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat, :-)  marvee
[23:39] <kasad> MeQuerSat: im looking for policy elsewhere atm
[23:39] <brightspark> kasad, sounds like this guy had a similar problem: http://serverfault.com/questions/321499/how-to-disable-all-power-management-in-ubuntu-for-a-server-netbook
[23:39] <MeQuerSat> kasad, do a "ls /usr/share" and check if its maybe called a little differently
[23:39] <dany> Si2100, i can install teamviewer and let u check that with yrself , I really new with ubuntu
[23:40] <kasad> brightspark: thanks again gonna check it out
[23:40] <dany> Si2100, my ubuntu in french so tell me how i can change it to english if that possibble
[23:40] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat, latitude d830, intel cpu, nvidia chipset, dual monitor
[23:40] <Si2100> dany, yeah what we really need is the driver for it
[23:40] <FreezingCold> I tried google'ing this but I'm a little confused....  I want to use rsync with a ssh comand (let's say "ssh -l freezingcold 333.333.333.333") to copy over a dir on the server named /myfiles to my local machine on a dir called /thisismyfiles.  How can I do that with rsync?
[23:40] <Si2100> dany, so we need to make sure that ur wireless card is supported
[23:41] <kasad> MeQuerSat: nothing remotely similar only folder that starts with po i spopularity-contest wtf
[23:41] <konaya> Dang
[23:41] <dany> Si2100, yes thanks , how we can do that ?
[23:41] <kasad> i think that link from brightspark will help, reading now
[23:41] <konaya> The SOPA hearing moves about as quickly as a bug on launchpad
[23:41] <Si2100> dany, try and find the driver ?
[23:41] <Si2100> dany, check Ubuntu forums and google
[23:42] <Si2100> dany. i started with  " Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 ubuntu wireless "
[23:42] <MeQuerSat> dany: I actually found the solution
[23:42] <Si2100> dany, and had a look for that
[23:42] <dany> Si2100, ok thanks , but i  did that before with no result
[23:42] <MeQuerSat> dany: you need to do this:
[23:42] <MeQuerSat> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[23:42] <Si2100> dany, okie
[23:42] <dany> MeQuerSat, can u go ahead plz
[23:42] <MeQuerSat> then: wget http://www.orbit-lab.org/kernel/compat-wireless-3-stable/v3.2/compat-wireless-3.2-rc1-1.tar.bz2
[23:43] <MeQuerSat> tar jxvf compat-wireless-3.2-rc1-1.tar.bz2
[23:43] <MeQuerSat> cd compat-wire*
[23:43] <MeQuerSat> did you get that?
[23:43] <Si2100> extract and install from terminal ?>
[23:43] <MeQuerSat> yeah
[23:43] <Si2100> =)
[23:43] <kasad> brightspark, MeQuerSat : ok now we are getting somewhere, i have to install acpi-support first :P
[23:43] <alishah> hi when i run 'sudo apt-get install php5-fpm' in terminal i get this error 'package not found'
[23:44] <alishah> even if i do '
[23:44] <alishah> apt-get install php5 '
[23:44] <kasad> brightspark, MeQuerSat : hopefully this will do the trick, thanks again guys, will get back to ya
[23:44] <alishah> i get error 'package not found'
[23:44] <Firefishe> I'm using Oneiric/11.10.  Every time I log in, a nautilus window opens.  I want to stop this effect, but it happens, no matter what desktop I am using.
[23:44] <MeQuerSat> alishah, did you do "sudo apt-get update" first?
[23:44] <brightspark> good luck kasad
[23:44] <dany> MeQuerSat, still downloading
[23:45] <MeQuerSat> dany, can you do a "uname -a" and show us?
[23:45] <MeQuerSat> Im off to bed now, Si2100 you can help dany with this if you want to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857808&page=7
[23:46] <MeQuerSat> its post #63
[23:46] <Si2100> MeQuersat; Sure nite
[23:46] <MeQuerSat> just replace 2.6 by 3.0 if dany has kernel 3.0
[23:46] <MeQuerSat> :)
[23:46] <iceroot> i am searching for a way for removing all conffiles for packages matching "dpkg -l | grep ^rc" so something like "sudo apt-get remove --purge foobar" but that is telling me that the package is not installed
[23:46] <Si2100> Okie
[23:46] <Si2100> ill try xD
[23:46] <Si2100> Cyaaa
[23:47] <Si2100> dany ?
[23:47] <iceroot> ah, sudo apt-get purge instead of remove --purge
[23:48] <dany> Si2100, thanks , the download will be done in 1 minute
[23:48] <Si2100> Okie
[23:49] <dany> Si2100, MeQuerSat told me to download this wget http://www.orbit-lab.org/kernel/compat-wireless-3-stable/v3.2/compat-wireless-3.2-rc1-1.tar.bz2
[23:49] <alsoeric_> MeQuerSat, if you still have the energy to tackle a video problem  latitude d830, intel cpu, nvidia chipset, dual monitor
[23:49] <Si2100> dany, Yeah
[23:49] <Si2100> he sent me the forum link
[23:50] <werever> HI friends, I looking for help to reset to default my user account settings by command line, I am pretty sure there is a config file I can edit by hand, (uuntu 11.10) what do you think?
[23:50] <alishah> how can i navigate opened windows in  ubuntu 11.10
[23:50] <dany> Si2100, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771726/
[23:50] <alishah> i minimized a window and now i can't find it
[23:50] <Si2100> dany, is that saying its download and installed ?
[23:51] <dany> Si2100, i just download it , not installed yet
[23:51] <Si2100> Okie,
[23:51] <Si2100> next is to intall it
[23:52] <sumosu> OT: is the linux mint irc server down or something?
[23:53] <OerHeks> sumosu, we don't know, mint is not supported here
[23:53] <dany> Si2100, what's the next step ?
[23:53] <dusf> !grub
[23:53] <Si2100> dany, Wheres it downloaded to ?
[23:54] <Si2100> dany ?
[23:55] <dany> Si2100, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771729/
[23:55] <werever> HI friends, I looking for help to reset to default my user account settings by command line, I am pretty sure there is a config file I can edit by hand, (uuntu 11.10) what do you think?
[23:55] <Si2100> dany, okie so thats in your home folder ?
[23:55] <dany> Si2100, yes
[23:56] <Si2100> dany, Okie so extract it to there for desktop
[23:56] <client_> Hello
[23:56] <Gentoo64> werever, just rm -rf /home/user
[23:56] <dany> Si2100, how i can do that
[23:56] <Si2100> double click on the tar,
[23:56] <Si2100> and then click Extact
[23:56] <werever> Gentoo64, trying thanks
[23:57] <Gentoo64> werever, delete the config files in there
[23:57] <Gentoo64> werever, i think dconf or gconf is the main one
[23:57] <Gentoo64> for the general de settings
[23:57] <kasad> brightspark, MeQuerSat : so far so good, thanks a lot guys <3
[23:58] <brightspark> kasad, excellent, glad to help
[23:58] <kasad> i owe you a 6pack man
[23:58] <kasad> <3 respect
[23:58] <Si2100> lol
[23:58] <danny> trace danny
[23:58] <dany> Si2100, how i can do that
[23:59] <Si2100> dany extract the tar ?
[23:59] <danny> tar -xf
[23:59] <Si2100> dany, you trying to ectract it from terminal ?


[06:12] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:17] <didrocks> good morning
[06:21] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:26] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[07:18] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN, didrocks, seb128
[07:23] <seb128> hey duflu
[07:23] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:23] <seb128> duflu, how are things? thanks for the trello/work summary email!
[07:24] <didrocks> hey duflu, re seb128
[07:24] <duflu> seb128, you're welcome I think. Just nervous about that information getting duplicated outside on Trello now. So some of it will soon be out of date
[07:25] <seb128> duflu, I don't think we are duplicating anything?
[07:25] <duflu> seb128, only in email, if you count that
[07:26] <seb128> duflu, the emails are just to make sure that everyone is aware of what they have to do and also have an estimate of how much work they think they have/how long each feature will take, the trello isn't good at helping us with that
[07:27] <seb128> that helps me to see if team members could take on extra work or already have more than enough for the cycle
[07:27] <duflu> Yes, fair enough. I will stop short of suggesting Gantt charts :)
[07:28] <seb128> haha
[07:29] <seb128> planner is on the list of things to remove since it still uses gconf
[07:29] <seb128> that's the only gantt tool I tried on debian/ubuntu :)
[07:35] <duflu> seb128, is the difference between pending and current some smoke tests to pass? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[07:36] <seb128> duflu, yes
[07:37] <seb128> I never remember where the log for those test is though :/
[07:37] <didrocks> same
[07:39] <duflu> seb128, jibel would know...
[07:39] <duflu> ?
[07:39] <seb128> yes
[07:43] <jibel> duflu, logs are there https://platform-qa-jenkins.ubuntu.com/ but I didn't finish enabling smoke tests for cosmic yet
[07:44] <duflu> jibel, no worries. I will come back to it at a later date
[07:45] <willcooke> duflu, no koza yet - so I assume no BT meeting
[07:46] <duflu> willcooke, not sure. Once or twice he went straight into the meeting without logging into IRC. Although my only relevant comments are in the status report
[07:47] <willcooke> duflu, I have nothing at this point either.  Want to try the bluez snap path again, and heber is lined up to look in to that some more
[07:47] <willcooke> until then, nothing from me
[07:48] <duflu> willcooke, also I will wait for cosmic smoke tests to pass before confusing the situation with a proposed update
[07:48] <duflu> The most vocal users in favor of 5.49 already have it via the PPA, and are happy
[07:49] <willcooke> +1 thx
[07:49] <duflu> willcooke, in other news upstream PulseAudio fixed BT audio skipping this week (after some years)
[07:49] <seb128> I don't think we need to wait for the iso to be current to update bluez
[07:49] <duflu> Will backport that too
[07:49] <seb128> but as you prefer
[07:50] <duflu> seb128, I prefer it to be usable before my dev machine uses it :)
[07:50] <seb128> we also have no hurry to update, it's not like cosmic had lot of users and that they needed it
[07:50] <seb128> right
[07:54] <duflu> seb128, I should have just said that I won't propose an update to cosmic until I have tested it on cosmic :)
[07:54] <seb128> that makes sense :)
[07:56] <didrocks> bluetooth always on on startup while you disable it in the previous boot is a feature/bug?
[07:56] <seb128> Trevinho, those gdm fixes, they seem a bit much for a SRU no? do you think there would be an easier way to fix the issue for bionic?
[07:57] <seb128> didrocks, I would say it's a bug but I'm unsure
[07:57] <seb128> or lack of feature to restore the status
[07:57] <didrocks> I would expect the previous enablement state to persist as well
[07:58] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, the pure fix is just two lines... Or one. It's in the 1st commit
[07:58] <Trevinho> I'll cherry pick them once landed
[07:58] <seb128> Trevinho, good morning :)
[07:58] <seb128> Trevinho, great, thanks!
[07:58] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[07:58] <seb128> Trevinho, how is the hackfest going?
[08:02] <Laney> yo
[08:02] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:03] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:03] <seb128> didrocks, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=638117#c36 sounds like it should work
[08:04] <Laney> salut french
[08:04] <Laney> alright, it stopped being nice weather though
[08:04] <didrocks> would be great to see if someone else reproduce, to see if it's config related or not
[08:04] <didrocks> still unnice weather here
[08:04] <Laney> went out for the daily sawfly removal session and it was windy
[08:05] <willcooke> Laney, what are the flies eating?
[08:05] <Laney> the gooseberry and redcurrant bush leaves
[08:06] <Laney> https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=517
[08:06] <Laney> these jerks
[08:06] <willcooke> so they strip the leaves and the plant dies?
[08:06] <willcooke> little buggers
[08:06] <seb128> didrocks, https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8590
[08:06] <ubot5-ng> systemd bug 8590 in systemd "Bluetooth state not respected between reboots (is on even if on previous boot I turned it off)" (comments: 2) [Needs-Reporter-Feedback ❓, Rfkill, Open]
[08:06] <Laney> I never let it get that far enough, but I guess so
[08:06] <didrocks> seb128: nice finding foo! :)
[08:06] <seb128> :)
[08:06] <Laney> actually this year we caught the first lot quite early on so it's only been a few leaves
[08:09] <didrocks> ok, keeping the tab opened
[08:09] <didrocks> logged what happens in the journal when shutting down bluetooth
[08:09] <didrocks> tomorrow, at next boot, I'll file the rfkill info + anything I can find about bluetooth
[08:23] <seb128> good, I'm going to try that as well/see if it's persistant on my machine, I let you know next time I reboot
[08:26] <didrocks> th!
[08:26] <didrocks> thx*
[08:49] <Laney> back in a bit, got some errands to do </seb128>
[08:51] <seb128> :)
[08:57] <Trevinho> seb128: sorry I was walking to the venue...
[08:57] <Trevinho> seb128: pretty good, lots of things planned more than done, but we've good plans at least
[08:58] <seb128> nice
[08:58] <seb128> good improvements?
[09:02] <Trevinho> hopefully :), a good one which is almost done is the one about killing the g-s on gdm when logged in, so that it won't stay there for no reason
[09:04] <seb128> Trevinho, ah, is somebody working on that?
[09:04] <seb128> that would be great
[09:04] <seb128> they start catching up with unity :p
[10:40] <ads20000> 'they' I mean, isn't this pretty much 'we' given Didier is a Board member ;)
[10:49] <duflu> Oops. Drank afternoon coffee and missed dinner.
[10:49] <duflu> Later all
[11:38] <didrocks> Wimpress: by any chance, have you ever tried to POST manually without ubuntu-report to the database? We have 4 records which are a little bit weird. distro is "ubuntu-mate" (and that doesn't exist, as it's the ID in os-release, which is ubuntu whenever flavor you are running), variant is hardcoded "desktop" for now, but it's set to "ubuntu", and version isn't the version id (like 18.04) but "desktop"
[11:39] <didrocks> they were ran in a mate session as well :)
[11:41] <didrocks> (+ another record with correct variant, but distro still manually set to ubuntu-mate)
[12:01] <andyrock> good morning!
[12:02] <didrocks> hey andyrock!
[12:03] <seb128> hey andyrock, how are you? had a good flight?
[12:03] <andyrock> yeah long but all good
[12:04] <seb128> where are you exactly?
[12:16] <andyrock> medellin
[12:23] <Trevinho> He follows his teacher 😂
[12:25] <andyrock> jbicha, seb128: btw I'm preparing an MP for gnome-control-center 3-28
[12:25] <andyrock> we need a modified (and simpler patch)
[12:25] <jbicha> cool, great
[12:33] <seb128> andyrock, thanks
[12:34] <seb128> andyrock, hope you enjoy south america :)
[12:38] <Wimpress> didrocks Almost certainly me (the human) dicking around with ubuntu-report but not interaction between Welcome and ubuntu-report
[12:40] <andyrock> jbicha: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/49/diffs
[12:40] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 49 in gnome-control-center "night-ligth-dialog: Avoid dereferencing invalid pointer" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[12:40] <andyrock> I'm also preparing a new to fix the random warnings
[12:40] <didrocks> Wimpress: ok, I think those were some direct curl usage, as in https://BASE_URL/distro/variante/version, you can only change BASE_URL from the tool
[12:41] <jbicha> andyrock: ok, I'll wait for that one then :)
[12:51] <andyrock> jbicha: and this one https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/50/diffs?commit_id=475548d0c9ea5814d8aabc11317466011146c767
[12:51] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 50 in gnome-control-center "night-light-dialog: Ignore G_IO_ERROR_CANCELLED errors" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[12:52] <andyrock> the second MP includes both commits to avoid rebasing
[13:40] <andyrock> jbicha, seb128 also if you could take care of this: https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/gnome-shell/fix-1768786/+merge/345203
[13:47] <seb128> andyrock, I don't know much about this patch but the commit message is confusing "Inhibit suspend if...screen lock on suspend is enabled "
[13:47] <seb128> why would we inhibit suspend?
[13:47] <andyrock> to lock before
[13:48] <andyrock> once it's locked we unhibit it
[13:48] <andyrock> the problem is that if you disable automatic login we still want to inhibit the suspend before
[13:48] <andyrock> because in ubuntu the lock on suspend is managed by another gsettings key
[13:49] <seb128> k, so "Inhibit suspend" is "Inhibit suspend until the screen is locked"?
[13:59] <seb128> andyrock, ^
[14:02] <seb128> andyrock, jbicha, the fix makes sense to me, I'm a bit unsure why we have that patch though. Upstream is not locking the screen on suspend? that seems a bit weird ot me
[14:02] <seb128> or is that about allowing to disable the locking on suspend?
[14:03] <jibel> FYI, automated smoke tests for cosmic are activated and first desktop image promoted to cosmic
[14:03] <seb128> nice!
[14:03] <jibel> and upgrades from bionic too
[14:03] <seb128> duflu left but maybe he noticed tomorrow :)
[14:03] <jibel> I'm sure he will
[14:03] <andyrock> seb128: guess we just need to replace or with and: "I"nhibit suspend if automatic screen lock is disabled and screen lock on suspend is enabled
[14:04] <andyrock> right now if automatic screen lock is disabled  we don't inhibit the suspend
[14:04] <andyrock> we should if screen lock on suspend is enabled
[14:04] <seb128> right
[14:04] <seb128> I was just speaking about the wording of the changelog entry
[14:04] <seb128> it's a bit confusing as it is atm
[14:05] <andyrock> seb128: so replacing or with and is fine for you?
[14:06] <andyrock> that's what I did in the first place and for some reason I changed it later
[14:07] <seb128> andyrock, let me read it again :p
[14:07] <Laney> use more words
[14:07] <seb128> andyrock, that patch doesn't inhibit suspend, it only does until the screen is locked no?
[14:08] <seb128> I would stick to what I suggested
[14:08] <seb128> "Inhibit suspend until the screen is locked"
[14:08] <seb128> if that's what it does
[14:08] <seb128> then you can add the context
[14:08] <seb128> "Inhibit suspend until the screen is locked also in the case where <...> is used"
[14:08] <seb128> or something around those lines
[14:10] <seb128> popey, hey, can you approve https://community.ubuntu.com/t/canned-response-to-forwarding-files-bugs-upstream/5829/3?
[14:12] <andyrock> seb128: kk
[14:12] <seb128> andyrock, thx
[14:18] <kenvandine> anyone know about oem-config-prepare?
[14:18] <kenvandine> Laney, ^^ maybe?
[14:19] <Laney> bit open ended :-)
[14:19] <kenvandine> it's blowing up because there is no oem user, wondering how that should be created
[14:19] <seb128> the question to be more specific, is does anyone know what creates the oem user/session that is used on first boot after installation?
[14:19] <kenvandine> Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/default.target → /lib/systemd/system/oem-config.target.
[14:19] <kenvandine> sudo: unknown user: oem
[14:19] <kenvandine> sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
[14:19] <seb128> the context is that custom microsoft image, which is not built using ubiquity
[14:20] <seb128> the way it works in the ubiquity workflow is that it boots first into a temp oem user where the prepare icon on the desktop is clicked on after tweaking
[14:20] <seb128> we want to do that in the image build automatically there
[14:20] <seb128> should the build just adduser oem and start the prepare command then?
[14:20] <kenvandine> yeah, which prepare seems to be trying to sudo oem
[14:20] <seb128> or is there more magic to set up things?
[14:21] <kenvandine> i was surprised there was nothing in livecd-rootfs and ubiquity related to the oem user
[14:21] <kenvandine> that i could find
[14:22] <Laney> I think ubiquity creates it in oem_config mode
[14:22] <Laney> it pilots that page of the installer
[14:22] <Laney> one second, let me find the right bit
[14:24] <Laney> https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/tree/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-usersetup.py#n219
[14:25] <popey> seb128: done
[14:26] <seb128> popey, thanks
[14:27] <kenvandine> Laney, thx
[14:27] <kenvandine> so i guess i just need to create the user myself
[14:28] <Laney> this thing is using the oem mode somehow?
[14:28] <Laney> I thought it was just supposed to boot to a preinstalled desktop
[14:28] <kenvandine> Laney, yeah, but we want oem-config to run
[14:28] <kenvandine> to setup the user, etc
[14:29] <kenvandine> i had it running g-i-s via gdm, which worked well
[14:29] <kenvandine> but then we didn't get ubuntu welcome
[14:30] <Laney> alright
[14:31] <kenvandine> Laney, so the oem user should be a regular user, probably uid 1000 right?
[14:31] <kenvandine> then oem-config changes properties on it?
[14:32] <Laney> don't think it should be 1000, that's the real user's uid
[14:32] <kenvandine> ok
[14:32] <Laney> look at ok_handler
[14:33] <kenvandine> i see it now
[14:33] <kenvandine> thx
[14:33] <Laney> no problemo
[14:45] <jbicha> kenvandine: you could maybe hack g-i-s to still run the welcome wizard after logging in after completing new user mode
[14:46] <jbicha> it might be a little annoying for GNOME users but we don't really have GNOME users for the new user mode
[14:47] <jbicha> kenvandine: or — I forget if I mentioned it to you — but have you seen bug 1762287?
[14:48] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, hey, do you know how much libayatana-appindicator has been tested in other distros/desktops and where? and did they still use a different dbus namespace that libappindicator? if so how do things like unity or the gnome-shell extension handle the mix of client apps using one or the other?
[14:48] <jbicha> sunweaver: ^ :)
[14:49] <seb128> jbicha, who is he?
[14:50] <Laney> The Debian maintainer
[14:50] <jbicha> upstream. He is perhaps the Debian version of flexion (maintainer for Debian MATE)
[14:51] <seb128> k, thx
[14:52] <seb128> jbicha, do you know if webkit2gtk strings are being displayed in user facing UIs? seems like we don't have much translations for it/launchpad import didn't work in bionic (https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/webkit2gtk)
[14:56] <jbicha> seb128: yes there are user strings. A simple test case is in Settings > Online Accounts and click to add a new Google account. The right-click options aren't translated in French
[14:57] <seb128> jbicha, ok, i'm adding that one to my list then :)
[14:57] <seb128> thx!
[14:57] <jbicha> no templates available for xenial?
[14:58] <seb128> was that package source/name changed in between series?
[14:58] <seb128> or between xenial and xenial-security?
[15:08] <jbicha> not really, but it only entered main in Feb 2016
[15:11] <jbicha> seb128: um, maybe it's as simple as that we don't built it --with translations or --with gnome
[15:20] <jbicha> here's the proposed fix for cosmic: https://salsa.debian.org/webkit-team/webkit/merge_requests/1
[15:20] <ubot5-ng> WebKIt bug (Merge request) 1 in webkit "Build with gnome-pkg-tools for Ubuntu language packs" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[15:22] <jbicha> ubot5-ng: why do you capitalize webkit like that?
[15:22] <ubot5-ng> jbicha: Error: "why" is not a valid command.
[15:56] <Laney> it's not the bot; the project/team/thing is capitalised in that way
[16:02] <jbicha> thanks :)
[16:27] <jibel> tsimonq2, did you try todays lubuntu image? I get bug 1754174 with automated ubiquity tests of Ubuntu.
[16:57] <tsimonq2> jibel: That's because Lubuntu no longer uses Ubiquity.
[16:58] <tsimonq2> We use Calamares now.
[16:58] <tsimonq2> jibel: Unless... *please* don't tell me you were testing Bionic...
[16:59] <tsimonq2> If that's present on Bionic, please sound alarms.
[17:21] <willcooke> night all
[17:40] <jibel> tsimonq2, it's with cosmic and only with automated tests, manually it works fine
[18:28] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, it is used in Debian since a lot of times and nobody reported issues so far, but I don't know.. let me check, did anybody complain so far? it  should be a dropin replacement
[18:39] <tsimonq2> jibel: OK
[18:40] <oSoMoN> good night all
[22:38] <robert_ancell> andyrock, how do I show the logout menu in g-s?
[22:39] <robert_ancell> I'm on a details page but not seeing any change
[22:46] <andyrock> robert_ancell: make sure you're running the built plugin (it could try to still load the old snapd plugin)
[22:46] <andyrock> mmm it should appear like this: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NxC87T1b/image.png
[23:01] <andyrock> robert_ancell: btw I fixed all your suggestions
[23:01] <andyrock> thx for the quick review
[23:02] <robert_ancell> andyrock, np
[23:03] <robert_ancell> That screenshot says "Sing out" :)
[23:03] <andyrock> ops
[23:03] <andyrock> yeah
[23:03] <andyrock> I just noticed that too
[23:03] <andyrock> :D
[23:03] <robert_ancell> It should play some opera sound effect when you click on it
[23:04] <andyrock> ahaha
[23:04] <robert_ancell> I'm guessing the menu isn't showing because I haven't signed in?
[23:04] <andyrock> it should show
[23:04] <andyrock> but it should allow you to sign in
[23:05] <robert_ancell> oh, ok. Must be something else...
[23:05] <robert_ancell> ah, I stuffed up my git branch
[23:07] <robert_ancell> andyrock, was there a discussion about why it only shows on the details page?
[23:07] <robert_ancell> because login can also affect searches etc
[23:07] <andyrock> nope but gnome-software can have more than one auth
[23:08] <andyrock> at least in this way we can handle it defining a default auth
[23:09] <robert_ancell> the default auth thing feels a bit odd - can't we just show all logged in accounts there (which will probably only be one in practice)
[23:10] <andyrock> robert_ancell: that can be an option
[23:10] <andyrock> I'll look into that
[23:12] <robert_ancell> andyrock, something like gs_plugin_get_auths () that returns a GPtrArray (priv->auth_array).
[23:12] <robert_ancell> Then you can iterate over that and show each one.
[23:13] <andyrock> how do we distinguish one auth from the other?
[23:13] <andyrock> e.g. doing like that we're going to have two auths now "snapd" and "ubuntuone"
[23:14] <andyrock> I understand that "ubuntuone" is going away at some point
[23:14] <andyrock> but for the moment it is still there
[23:15] <robert_ancell> andyrock, you use gs_app_get_management_plugin which will return the Snap plugin. It only has one auth.
[23:15] <andyrock> nope
[23:15] <robert_ancell> The Ubuntu One plugin has the other one, and wont be visible.
[23:15] <andyrock> they're shared
[23:15] <andyrock> all the plugins share the same auth_array
[23:16] <robert_ancell> ah
[23:16] <sarnold> "sing out", well at least tha tmatches the optimism of the skype screenshot :0
[23:16] <sarnold> :)
[23:17] <andyrock> robert_ancell: it is this way because e.g. ubuntu-reviews use ubuntuone auth that comes from a different plugin
[23:17] <robert_ancell> andyrock, would it be an issue to show both accounts in that menu?
[23:18] <robert_ancell> Because the U1 login could apply to the results (i.e. if we were using the Ubuntu review server for reviews).
[23:18] <andyrock> it would be odd to have something like that:
[23:18] <andyrock> Sign in...
[23:18] <andyrock> Sign Out
[23:18] <andyrock> ----
[23:18] <andyrock> Sign in...
[23:19] <andyrock> Sign Out
[23:19] <andyrock> in the same popover
[23:19] <andyrock> we should at least agree on a way to distinguish the two
[23:19] <andyrock> like
[23:19] <andyrock> Snap Store
[23:20] <robert_ancell> "Sign into Snap Store"
[23:20] <robert_ancell> "Sign into Ubuntu One"
[23:21] <andyrock> robert_ancell: and "Signed into SnapStore as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:21] <andyrock> ?
[23:21] <robert_ancell> andyrock, I think what flagged this for me is gs_plugin_set_default_auth is adding public API to G-S, and Richard is probably going to scrutinize it. So a more generic solution is probably better.
[23:21] <andyrock> robert_ancell: kk that works for me
[23:22] <andyrock> my day is almost over
[23:22] <andyrock> so I'll likely update it tomorrow
[23:22] <robert_ancell> andyrock, worst case we can just distro patch out U1 for us, and we'll drop U1 in the near future
[23:22] <robert_ancell> andyrock, sure, thanks!


[01:01] <xnox> cjwatson: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-fastpath-install
[01:01] <xnox> interesting new blueprint.
[01:02] <cjwatson> Yeah, I know about it
[01:02] <xnox> ack =)
[11:36] <smartboyhw> Hi any wubi developer's here?
[11:44] <xnox> sure.
[11:44] <xnox> smartboyhw: what's up?
[11:44] <smartboyhw> xnox,  we want to add Ubuntu Studio to Wubi
[11:45] <xnox> smartboyhw: ok.
[11:45] <xnox> smartboyhw: that needs correct links to how/where your images are called.
[11:45] <smartboyhw> xnox, just wondering what should I write in the isolist.ini. Should I use the 12.10 metalinks or the 13.04 links
[11:46] <xnox> smartboyhw: well, currently wubi is targetting 12.10 & we didn't update the links for the 13.04.
[11:46] <smartboyhw> xnox, so the 12.10 links then
[11:46] <xnox> smartboyhw: for now yeah, and then we will update all of them to 13.04 in bulk.
[11:47] <smartboyhw> xnox, same for the debian/changelog?
[11:47] <xnox> smartboyhw: what do you mean for the debian/changelog? $ dch -i and keep it UNRELEASED.
[11:48] <smartboyhw> xnox, I mean the version number in debian/changelog. Is it that I should use 13.04?
[11:48] <xnox> smartboyhw: don't worry about debian/changelog, it's a bit out-of-date and we need to fix it up =))))
[11:48] <smartboyhw> =)))))0
[11:51] <smartboyhw> xnox, is it that we must have lupin-support package in our images in order to install Ubuntu Studio on Wubi?
[11:51] <smartboyhw> From Bug 1070682
[11:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1070682 in Ubuntu Studio "wubi and ubuntu studio" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070682
[11:53] <xnox> smartboyhw: sounds about right, have you seeded it already?
[11:53] <smartboyhw> xnox, that is the problem . No
[11:53] <smartboyhw> Let me find the guys in my team to add it
[11:55] <smartboyhw> xnox, told them to add...Just wait till it seeds to ubuntustudio-meta
[11:59] <smartboyhw> xnox, hmm I now got the code in https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/ubuntu/raring/wubi/bug-1070682 but I can't see how to propose merge proposals
[12:00] <xnox> smartboyhw: huh.... wubi predates package branches. base your changes on lp:wubi & push to lp:~/wubi/bug-1070682 and propose into lp:wubi.
[12:00] <xnox> smartboyhw: ubuntu archive does not build windows binaries yet....
[12:00] <smartboyhw> xnox, so I do like lp:~smartboyhw/wubi/bug-1070682 right?
[12:01] <xnox> smartboyhw: you have just created wubi package in ubuntu =((((( because of that branch....
[12:01] <smartboyhw> xnox, oops
[12:01] <smartboyhw> xnox, immediate delete
[12:01] <xnox> smartboyhw: in the future make sure you push back branches to the same project you got them from......
[12:02] <smartboyhw> Phew got it now
[12:02] <ogra-cb_> iirc using push :parent actually makes suggestions for branch names if you cant push due to missing credentials
[12:03] <ogra-cb_> that should give a proper "to-merge" branch name
[12:03] <smartboyhw> Got it now xnox https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/wubi/bug-1070682/+merge/134446
[12:05] <cjwatson> It doesn't need to go in ubuntustudio-meta
[12:05] <cjwatson> The seed it should probably be in is not one that generates a metapackage
[12:06] <cjwatson> (Kaj did it right)
[12:07] <smartboyhw> cjwatson, yeah
[12:18] <smartboyhw> cjwatson, sorry on the edubuntu typo
[12:18] <smartboyhw> fixing
[12:22] <smartboyhw> cjwatson, resubmitted proposal
[12:23] <smartboyhw> https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/wubi/bug-1070682/+merge/134453
[12:45] <cjwatson> FWIW you should never resubmit proposals
[12:45] <cjwatson> At least not for minor corrections like this
[12:45] <cjwatson> The way you use the system is that you simply commit a fix and push it
[12:45] <cjwatson> Resubmitting is awkward and overcomplicated and basically just for the situation where you proposed against the wrong branch
[12:47] <mpt> cjwatson, hi, is bug 220961 that Ubiquity never checks for enough disk space, or that it normally checks but is sometimes mistaken?
[12:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 220961 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] ubiquity crashes instead of notifying the user of not enough disk space" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220961
[12:47] <mpt> I'm just trying to work out whether it needs a design for the error message.
[12:48] <cjwatson> smartboyhw: At the risk of blowing my own trumpet, see https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/refactor-cron-germinate/+merge/84624 for an example; if you scroll down you can see review comments nicely interleaved with revisions fixing them
[12:48] <cjwatson> mpt: It normally checks but is (probably inevitably) sometimes mistaken.  The bug is that it falls over in varying different kinds of heaps rather than dying gracefully.
[12:48] <xnox> mpt: there are conditions/code-paths in ubiquity which allow you to proceed to installation and later it will trip over itself that there is not enough disk space.
[12:49] <mpt> ok, thanks
[12:49] <xnox> cjwatson: the classic is Laney's "typical install": 8GB disk + 8GB RAM in a VM, with swap taking over most of the space and / being the minimal size of ~800MB (whatever hardcoded in partman-auto recipe as minimal size)
[12:50] <xnox> which falls flat on it's face.
[12:50] <cjwatson> Yeah, we have separate bugs for lots of the special cases of this kind of thing
[12:50] <cjwatson> The "ridiculous amounts of swap" case is one
[12:51] <xnox> cjwatson: interesting this blueprint got superseeded: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-default-swap-disk-size-calculation
[12:51] <cjwatson> *shrug* I lose track
[12:51] <xnox> not sure what happened there....
[12:51] <cjwatson> But that's the sort of thing that's stupid as a blueprint anyway
[12:51] <cjwatson> It's just a bug, albeit a complicated one
[12:51] <xnox> yeah.... blueprints are funny.
[12:51] <mpt> cjwatson, have you considered using RecoverableError for that? Then you could pick off the causes in order of frequency
[12:51] <cjwatson> No
[12:51] <mpt> Blueprints are bug reports with delusions of grandeur
[12:52] <cjwatson> Because I've only spent a fairly minimal amount of time on ubiquity at all since errors.u.c et al were created, and that really only in support of other project
[12:52] <cjwatson> s
[12:52] <mpt> fair enough
[12:52] <mpt> I should have addressed that to xnox :-)
[12:52] <cjwatson> There's a point to blueprints when we need complex design across multiple pieces of software, but they do get massively overused
[12:52] <cjwatson> That said, it should only be a recoverable error if it's actually recoverable; half the point of the bug is that it isn't
[12:52] <xnox> mpt: I like that definition =)
[12:53] <cjwatson> (Except by restarting the installation from scratch, which I don't think counts)
[12:54] <mpt> cjwatson, that might be reading a little too much into the name ... Recoverable in that sense only means "doesn't crash".
[12:54] <cjwatson> Maybe the name is wrong? :-)
[12:54] <mpt> maybe.
[12:54] <cjwatson> I'm reading the dictionary words
[12:54] <mpt> (I didn't choose it, therefore it must be, right?)
[14:53] <smartboyhw> cjwatson, so you are just not going to merge the fix since I (stupidly) resubmitted the proposal?
[15:10] <cjwatson> smartboyhw: Where did I say that?
[15:10] <cjwatson> smartboyhw: I'm not merging it since it's my day off today :-)
[15:11] <cjwatson> smartboyhw: I was just recommending that you use an approach that's both easier and better in future
[15:13] <smartboyhw> cjwatson, ah OK:P


[01:48] <mhall119> http://www.qimo4kids.com/2011/10/qimo-on-zareason-pcs/
[01:48]  * mhall119 is super excited
[02:34] <Pendulum> mhall119: thanks!
[11:05] <Pendulum> morning
[11:46] <duanedesign> hello Pendulum
[11:47] <Pendulum> duanedesign: how're you? Haven't seen you around as much lately :(
[11:48] <duanedesign> Pendulum: i am good. Been kinda busy settling into my new job
[11:48] <Pendulum> I'm glad things are good :)
[11:48] <duanedesign> hoping things stabilize so I can gget back to some community work
[11:49] <Pendulum> *nods*
[11:49] <Pendulum> Silly day jobs getting in the way of volunteer stuff ;-)
[11:49] <duanedesign> :)
[11:50] <duanedesign> Pendulum: what have you been up too?
[11:51] <Pendulum> honestly, lost a lot of the last 2 months to medical crap, but it's medical crap that has resulted in improvement so I can't complain too much ;-)
[11:52] <Pendulum> Probably about as good as I'll ever been on that front now and that's good enough for me :-) (didn't fix anywhere near anything, just most of the things that were limiting me in ways that messed up working)
[11:53] <Pendulum> *anywhere near everything
[12:01] <duanedesign> sounds  like all in all it turned out to be a positive :)
[12:04] <Pendulum> yeah
[18:53] <czajkowski> Aloha
[19:52] <duanedesign> hello czajkowski ... /me said one hour later