[02:08] <hevyhomie> hello everyone
[02:15] <hevyhomie> Would you be kind to help me with how to build apparmor for moto E as given by the porting to new device link: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Next-Ubuntu-Touch-OTA-Update-Should-Arrive-in-July-Says-Canonical-483826.shtml
[05:01] <sturmflut2> tathhu: I'm just forwarding relevant information to my loyal crowd of followers ;)
[05:18] <sturmflut2> dholbach: Good morning!
[05:25] <dholbach> hey sturmflut2
[06:31] <zyga> bzoltan: hey
[06:31] <zyga> bzoltan: do you have a moment to talk
[06:44] <bzoltan> zyga: yes
[06:46] <zyga> bzoltan: thanks, I'm interested in the binary runtime for SDK apps
[06:46] <zyga> bzoltan: for LTS releases
[06:47] <zyga> bzoltan: I'm curious as to how apps are supposed to use it
[06:47] <zyga> bzoltan: ahd what kind of testing was performed on it
[06:48] <bzoltan> zyga: Right...I am almost done with the prototype package.https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/qt5-beta-proper/+sourcepub/5119834/+listing-archive-extra
[06:48] <bzoltan> zyga:  It compiles, builds, but i need to fix up the packaging and stuff
[06:49] <bzoltan> zyga:  The apps need to figure out the whereabout of the Qt. Env vars are there for that
[06:49] <zyga> bzoltan: do you have an idea when it will be ready?
[06:49] <zyga> bzoltan: I'd like to give it a try with checkbox
[06:49] <bzoltan> zyga: Is there a rush?
[06:49] <zyga> bzoltan: no, just planning
[06:50] <zyga> bzoltan: we're about to end one cycle and I wonder if I should reserve some time to work on this next week
[06:50] <bzoltan> zyga:  hobby or real planning? peaple tend to plan before concept and feasibility study in these days :D
[06:50] <zyga> bzoltan: real planning
[06:51] <zyga> bzoltan: we have a production app that runs on 14.04 but we want to replace it with one that relies on current SDK
[06:51] <bzoltan> zyga:  for real planning i would not commit anything for this week. What we do is still an early prototyping. I know it works, I know it is good, but i would not jump on production just yet
[06:52] <zyga> bzoltan: ok, thank you
[06:52] <zyga> bzoltan: as soon as you think it's something that you consider ready for broader testing, please tell me
[06:52] <zyga> bzoltan: we'd like to unify our apps across LTS and non-LTS releases
[06:52] <bzoltan> zyga:  if we release a Qt 5.4 with 1.3 UITK for LTS then we are commited to it ... we can not change paths and modules anymore. So I would do the proper base work.
[06:54] <bzoltan> zyga:  that is a brilliant plan and I am sure that our Qt and UITK are up to the job. But we need to be super careful not to commit to an API or a modul what might change.
[06:54] <zyga> bzoltan: understood
[06:55] <brunch875> Why do I always seem to miss ubuntuonair?
[06:55] <brunch875> :C
[06:56] <zyga> bzoltan: one last question, will you release something before the end of 15.10 development?
[06:56] <zyga> bzoltan: a vivid version of SDK -libs would be useful for our needs
[06:57] <zyga> (so current, not next)
[06:58] <bzoltan> zyga: to release a vivid version via the SDK PPA is easy ... to the archive is close to impossible. Sadly not because of me.
[06:58] <bzoltan> zyga:  but the latest UITK on vivid is fresh
[06:58] <zyga> bzoltan: ppa is fine
[07:08] <zyga> bzoltan: so which is it? is your plan to wait for 15.10 development to finish and then release a set of libraries to let apps to run on 14.04
[07:10] <bzoltan> zyga:  I plan to release much earlier
[07:11] <bzoltan> zyga:  in optimal case in weeks ... at least the prototype package what would be good for concept validation and testing.
[07:11] <bzoltan> zyga:  the first package will come with a major _DISCLAIMER_ that the content and paths are subject to change
[07:12] <zyga> bzoltan: thank you, that's all I need now
[07:13] <zyga> bzoltan: and I'm very grateful for your work
[07:14] <bzoltan> zyga:  My pleasure :) You push this ship to the right direction ... rolling release of the developer offering. that was my ambition since the beginning  :)
[07:24] <zyga> ara: do you have any plans to adopt asana?
[07:25] <ara> zyga, not currently, why?
[07:25] <zyga> ara: I used it a little lately to track lp development, I'm just curious to see what our plans are
[07:26] <ara> zyga, the current plans probably involve trello, rather than asana
[07:54] <sturmflut2> Does anybody have a vegetahd device at hand and could test a click app for me? You can ping me in private if you don't want to reveal yourself ;)
[09:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Ball Point Pen Day! 😃
[09:21] <popey> JamesTait: oddly a fountain pen just dropped through my letter box :)
[09:22] <JamesTait> popey, nice! Anything to do with Ronnie Tucker's series of reviews?
[09:22] <popey> yes :)
[09:23] <popey> el cheapo one from ebay
[09:23] <popey> then realised I have no ink :)
[09:23]  * JamesTait prefers fountain pens.
[09:26] <JamesTait> I haven't watched any of the reviews yet, but I intend to just out of curiosity. I have a cherry wood fountain pen that my wife bought me as an anniversary present, and I like that.
[09:32] <jgdx> seb128, this [1] now passes. Could you take a look at it? [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-1441192/+merge/255402
[09:33] <davmor2> popey: JamesTait I prefer rotary pencils.  I find them smoother to write with than pens
[09:33] <popey> me too usuaally
[09:33] <popey> I generally only use pencils, but I want to try something different, not used a fountain pen for 30 years
[09:34] <jgdx> seb128, also, I can't run system settings locally due to the file exists fix of yours. Not sure how to recover.
[09:35]  * sturmflut2 can only write in block letters and had to train his hand for three weeks before every written exam at university
[09:35] <davmor2> I also don't tend to break the nibs so easily
[09:38]  * JamesTait has replacement nibs handy with the cartridges, just in case.
[09:38] <popey> Mirv: is this something you can help get tested / landed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtpim-opensource-src/+bug/1462989
[09:39] <jgdx> sturmflut2, highly recommend learning lower case letters.
[09:40] <sturmflut2> jgdx: I hardly ever write anything by hand. Too many devices available.
[09:41] <jgdx> sturmflut2, but you went to elementary school, right? :p
[09:45] <Mirv> popey: I can help getting it landed, but it's renatu's package so I'd like him to accept it and test the landing
[09:46] <Mirv> popey: I'll add a landing line for it but it seems renatu is not online
[09:46] <popey> ok, thanks Mirv
[09:46] <popey> I'll poke him when he's around
[09:46] <Mirv> popey: it needs overlay too? I mean to vivid images (well probably obviously...)
[09:47] <Mirv> captain obvious
[09:48] <JamesTait> popey, davmor2: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamestait0/18047069764/ <-- My essential equipment.
[09:49] <seb128> jgdx, you didn't reply to my review comment in that mp, did you?
[09:50] <popey> JamesTait: is that an ubuntu plectrum?
[09:50] <Mirv> popey: so, ping him to review the patch and add his comment to the bug. I subscribed to the bug now so when I see his review approval of the patch, I'll do a silo with that patched added and ask renatu to test it.
[09:50] <popey> awesomesauce, thanks Mirv
[09:50] <JamesTait> popey, yes it is! From barry, at UDS Budapest!
[09:50] <popey> nice
[09:50] <jgdx> seb128, no, I thought the pass constituted an answer. :p
[09:51] <seb128> jgdx, well, currently tests don't fail, so I'm unsure why they need to be skipped
[09:51] <jgdx> seb128, commented
[09:51] <seb128> jgdx, also what issue do you have with my file exists change?
[09:52] <jgdx> seb128, no tests are skipped right now if they can pass. Some cannot pass due to lacking NM mock support.
[09:52] <jgdx> seb128, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11689223/
[09:52] <seb128> jgdx, ldd /usr/bin/system-settings | grep libS
[09:55] <davmor2> JamesTait: now be lefthanded and heavy handed and see how long a nib lasts ;)  Apparently the ones you can stab through can don't do so well if you just use them :D
[09:56] <jgdx> seb128, libSystemSettings.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libSystemSettings.so.1
[09:56] <seb128> jgdx, that's your issue, /usr/local custom install taking over the system version
[09:56] <seb128> jgdx, just delete /usr/local/lib/libSystemSettings.so.1
[09:56] <JamesTait> I think it's just you, davmor2. 😝
[09:56] <jgdx> seb128, haven't used /usr/local in ages, but makes sense
[09:56] <seb128> jgdx, yeah and the lib didn't change in ages
[09:56] <jgdx> oh
[09:56] <seb128> so you probably didn't notice before
[09:57] <jgdx> seb128, worked, thanks!
[09:57] <seb128> jgdx, yw!
[09:59] <seb128> jgdx, k, approved your changes, can you link the bug to the branch maybe, so it gets listed in the changelog/closed on upload
[10:01] <jgdx> seb128, oh, sure.
[10:01] <seb128> jgdx, thanks
[10:20] <jgdx> seb128, shouldn't we use USS (RTM) to track these landings in bugs?
[10:21] <seb128> jgdx, as you want, is that needed/bringing any value?
[10:21] <jgdx> seb128, it's just a bit tedious looking at the linked branch to figure out whether or not it's in vivid or not
[10:23] <seb128> jgdx, you mean? if that's a mp against vivid is that the change is not in vivid :-)
[10:24] <Ytivarg> Hi, videocalling work on uphone?
[10:24] <bzoltan> didrocks:  May I have a packaging question? I have a project with an orig.tar.gz on a http server, the debian/watch has the correct data. Is there a way to create a source package without creating a local orig.tar.gz?
[10:25] <jgdx> seb128, that's not true though ;p
[10:25] <seb128> oh?
[10:25] <didrocks> bzoltan: you mean, you want to force downloading the orig.tar.gz from the server, right?
[10:25] <jgdx> it can be landed in vivid but still have an mp against vivid :p
[10:25] <didrocks> bzoltan: or you want to even skip that download?
[10:26] <didrocks> (you can't, you need to have the orig.tar.gz locally so that it can create the diff.tar.gz)
[10:26] <didrocks> (so you can download it with "uscan --force-download")
[10:35] <Ytivarg> Hi, vocalsearch work on uphone?
[10:37] <popey> what's vocalsearch?
[10:37] <popey> (and probably no)
[10:38] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: Ping
[10:39] <bzoltan> didrocks: Ok, so there is no way to convince the packaging tools that the orig.tar.gz is up there and it should not create/download huge files and then upload it to the builder?
[10:41] <Ytivarg> Vocalassistent ... sorry
[10:41] <popey> Ytivarg: still no idea what that is :)
[10:41] <popey> Ytivarg: can you link to it
[10:42] <didrocks> bzoltan: no, because to generate your diff.tar.gz, you need to compare your current directory and the orig.tar.gz files
[10:42] <didrocks> and so, it couldn't do that without downloading it :)
[10:43] <didrocks> popey: I guess Ytivarg is talking about something like a google now search (voice recognition)
[10:43]  * popey shrugs
[10:44] <bzoltan> didrocks: but if the project has only the debian directory without any patch ... then the diff.tar.gz can not be other then an empty file.
[10:44] <Ytivarg> With my voice found my contact
[10:44] <popey> Ytivarg: no, we don't have that yet
[10:44] <didrocks> bzoltan: or orig.tar.gz can be empty, and diff.tar.gz would contain then all debian/ dir :)
[10:45] <didrocks> bzoltan: there is nothing magic about any dir, so any combination can exist
[10:46] <bzoltan> didrocks:  I would just love to save bandwidth  by using the watch feature and let the PPA download the orig.tar.gz when i do only debian space hackaround
[10:48] <didrocks> bzoltan: if you only do packaging changes, (and so, create a -0ubuntuX where X>1), it doesn't reupload the .orig.tar.gz file
[10:48] <bzoltan> didrocks: all right, that is comforting .. let me try it
[10:50] <didrocks> bzoltan: look at your .changes file, it lists the packages it would upload
[10:50] <Ytivarg> Popey: Okkey but this tecnology are 10 years old
[10:50] <popey> Ytivarg: So?
[10:53] <Ytivarg> For any people are fondamental ... sorry my very bad english
[10:55] <bzoltan> didrocks:  thanks, cool
[11:03] <mzanetti> sturmflut2, hey
[11:03] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: Welcome back!
[11:04] <mzanetti> have I been away?
[11:14] <Ytivarg> didrocks: thanks and good day at all
[11:41] <mcphail> Are updates from Ubuntu Store going to switch to binary diffs rather than redownloading the full thing?
[11:46] <mcphail> (and, as an extension to that, is the versioning under /opt/click/packagename going to change to some form of COW arrangement?)
[11:51] <mcphail> I'm a bit worried apps developed for convergent devices (particularly if delivered as fat packages with armhf, i386 and amd64 arch) are going to kill my poor little bq
[11:52] <ogra_> snap packages will get binary diffs ...
[11:52] <ogra_> afaik
[11:52] <mcphail> ogra_: i _thought_ I'd heard that somewhere. Good to hear. Any plans on how the versioning will work when installed?
[11:53] <ogra_> the versioning ?
[11:53] <mcphail> ogra_: yes - just now we have dirs for v0.1 and v0.2, both with complete copies of all binaries
[11:53] <ogra_> ah, snappy doesnt have that
[11:54] <mcphail> ogra_: how does snappy handle rollbacks etc?
[11:54] <sturmflut2> cking: Ping
[11:55] <cking> sturmflut2, hiya
[11:56] <sturmflut2> cking: I've looked at your fix for forkstat, great! I'll put the new version on my device and continue with the article
[11:57] <cking> sturmflut2, excellent!
[13:01] <jgdx> kenvandine, hey Ken, could you take a look at the backport spreadsheet and tell me if there's something missing?
[13:02] <kenvandine> jgdx, you mean the landing spreadsheet?
[13:03] <kenvandine> jgdx, for row 63, just the dest ppa
[13:03] <jgdx> kenvandine, no, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F6eKzwpobzoAW1JyvFt_nacFltQiIMCniA793F1z2Lc/edit#gid=0
[13:03] <kenvandine> i fixed it
[13:03] <kenvandine> oh
[13:03]  * kenvandine looks
[13:03] <barry> JamesTait: actually, i think it was steve conklin who made those.  i got a big bag of picks and i've been slowly losing them ever since.  but they are really cool (and great picks)
[13:04] <kenvandine> jgdx, list is shorter than i would think..
[13:04] <jgdx> kenvandine, yeah, maybe I missed something
[13:07] <jgdx> kenvandine, also, landing 33 fails to build due to tst-update-manager segfault: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/208645434/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-powerpc.ubuntu-system-settings_0.3%2B15.10.20150609.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:07] <jgdx> kenvandine, idas?
[13:07] <jgdx> s/idas/ideas
[13:10] <kenvandine> jgdx, these fixes aren't listed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/0.3+15.10.20150604-0ubuntu1
[13:11] <jgdx> kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1461624
[13:11] <kenvandine> jgdx, no idea about tst-update-manager segfault, nothing in your branch changed that
[13:11] <brunch875> Which notes program should I use on the desktop if I want it to synchronize with "Reminders" on ubuntu touch?
[13:11] <brunch875> evolution?
[13:12] <jgdx> seb128, the libsystemsettings1 change's not being backported?
[13:13] <brunch875> AAh, there's a reminders app for the desktop too; nevermind
[13:14] <seb128> kenvandine, listed where?
[13:14] <kenvandine> on the backport spreadsheet jgdx linked
[13:15] <seb128> jgdx, no, that's only for snappy purposes, I don't see the point of backporting
[13:15] <jgdx> seb128, kenvandine, listed the battery rendering one. It's in silo 6
[13:16] <jgdx> seb128, won't it also be helpful for the convergence story?
[13:16] <JamesTait> barry, I just remember you having loads and telling me to "take a handful" - I have one, my sons have one each, the rest found their way into geocaches as swaps. ☺
[13:16] <seb128> jgdx, I doubt we ever build a snappy image from < wily
[13:17] <barry> JamesTait: that's awesome!  how cool would it be to find one in a geocache?
[13:17] <seb128> too much changing, wily is supposed to be where the snappy works is going
[13:17] <jgdx> seb128, k
[13:17] <barry> JamesTait: yeah, i think i snapped up all the leftovers :)
[13:17] <jgdx> makes sense
[13:17] <kenvandine> seb128, jgdx: i guess we won't be able to switch to dual landings then, i had hoped to
[13:17] <kenvandine> but makes sense
[13:18] <kenvandine> my hope was to remove the delta then dual land for everything new
[13:18] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, well we can also merge in for the sake of dual landing, I don't know how much vivid+overlay is freeform for non ota-targetted changes
[13:18] <JamesTait> barry, the real shame is that I didn't tag them before dropping them - it'd be cool to have had them as trackables and see where in the world they ended up!
[13:18] <barry> :)
[13:18] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, like I'm also unsure where is convergence work, display panel, etc going to go
[13:18] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, it's likely going to require new MIR, is that going to overlay?
[13:19] <kenvandine> all good questions
[13:19] <jgdx> delta is inversely proportional with ken's ability to sleep at night
[13:19] <jgdx> uuh
[13:20] <seb128> jgdx, ken never liked sleep anyway
[13:20] <seb128> :-p
[13:21] <kenvandine> i'm learning to like it :)
[13:21] <jgdx> heh
[13:21] <seb128> :-)
[13:21] <seb128> kenvandine, anyway the delta is small enough that I would be fine backporting the remaining changes in another landing
[13:22] <seb128> then we can dual land for a while
[13:22] <kenvandine> seb128, it would be nice
[13:22] <seb128> then see what happens with the convergence work
[13:22] <jgdx> seb128, silo 3 for the fileexist thing, then?
[13:22] <jgdx> since yours is tested already
[13:22] <seb128> jgdx, we already have another silo?
[13:22] <jgdx> seb128, yes
[13:22] <seb128> is that on top of what I'm trying to land?
[13:22] <seb128> or how does that work?
[13:22] <jgdx> seb128, I'll wait until your stuff has landed
[13:23] <seb128> k
[13:23] <seb128> kenvandine, what was your thing about overlay ppa flag?
[13:24] <jgdx> kenvandine, did you see I'm landing the device_name branch? You okay with that?
[13:24] <seb128> kenvandine, oh, I saw you replied on -ci-eng
[13:24] <kenvandine> jgdx, i'm good with that
[13:25] <kenvandine> seb128, yeah, makes sense?
[13:25] <jgdx> seb128, I tested silo 6, btw. All green
[13:25] <kenvandine> seb128, it's best to set that before the silo is created
[13:25] <kenvandine> but we can change it after if needed
[13:26] <kenvandine> jgdx, i just wonder what QA will say about a landing with that many branches :)
[13:26] <kenvandine> but i think unity8 has done bigger landings
[13:26] <jgdx> kenvandine, silo 6, 3 or both?
[13:27] <kenvandine> jgdx, silo 6
[13:27] <kenvandine> hopefully they'll let it through
[13:28] <seb128> kenvandine, yes, I just didn't know about it, I wondered when I created the landing
[13:28] <seb128> I looked twice at the target distro combos
[13:29] <kenvandine> seb128, :)
[13:29] <seb128> also I wonder if I a proper SRU would make sense
[13:29] <seb128> there is a string change in there
[13:30] <seb128> and we didn't figure out how to deal with string updates in the overlay ppa
[13:30] <kenvandine> oh... how are we handling string changes from the ppa?
[13:30] <seb128> the langpacks come from vivid
[13:30] <kenvandine> ugh
[13:30] <seb128> we don't
[13:30] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, ^^^ that's a real problem
[13:30] <seb128> we noticed that when testing the ota4 candidate
[13:30] <seb128> kenvandine, he knows, that was discussed a lot monday and yesterday
[13:30] <kenvandine> ok
[13:30] <seb128> we distro patched langpacks manually for the new strings for ota4
[13:30] <kenvandine> we probably need to SRU a bunch of stuff...
[13:31] <seb128> or figure out another way to update translations
[13:31] <seb128> like merging wily strings back in langpacks or something
[13:31] <seb128> but that would assuming that wily and overlay have no string mismatch at all
[13:31] <pmcgowan> yeah we need to fix that asap, even if it means ditching the ppa
[13:31] <jgdx> kenvandine, reminds me, I'm landing the connection type fixdesign in wily in it's own silo. :)
[13:32] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, agreed... we'll go into big time translation debt if we don't
[13:32] <kenvandine> jgdx, cool
[13:34] <pmcgowan> abeato, did you verify silo 31 already? awe ?
[13:34] <jgdx> seb128, kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/15.04/+activereviews :)
[13:35] <awe> pmcgowan, abeato tested krillin and it looks good.  I wanted to do some more testing on arale & mako this morning
[13:35] <abeato> pmcgowan, yes, I installed and tested, see comment in https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/network-manager/lp1461593/+merge/261450
[13:35] <awe> pmcgowan, I'll ping you when I'm done
[13:35] <pmcgowan> awe, abeato great thanks
[13:35] <awe> ( and will also add my test results to the mp above )
[13:35] <awe> thanks abeato!
[13:36] <abeato> yw
[13:38] <sturmflut2> Hmmm, I suppose there are scripts to build the "ubuntu" tarball in an image from .deb packages, and the "custom" tarball is probably mostly built manually, but how does "device" come together? Who creates the boot images, the Android container etc.? And how?
[13:50] <kgunn> jhodapp: hey there, so seems we're still needing a media hub fix to make player controls for audio show up in indicator panel
[13:51] <kgunn> is that being worked? or had you thot we were all good ?
[13:51] <jhodapp> kgunn, I'm working on the prerequisite tasks right now of background playlists
[13:51] <jhodapp> kgunn, once that's done, then the player controls can come back
[13:52] <kgunn> jhodapp: just checking on time stack up, so pmcgowan looking at another freeze around mid july...
[13:54] <jhodapp> kgunn, yeah, we will need some changes to the indicator-sound to make it a little more intelligent (like hiding next/prev buttons when appropriate, etc)
[13:54] <pmcgowan> kgunn, jhodapp I need to make tasks to track the music player and indicators for that
[13:54] <pmcgowan> jhodapp, do you have that bug handy?
[13:54] <jhodapp> pmcgowan, I don't, not sure if there was one filed for that or not
[13:55] <pmcgowan> let me look
[13:57] <pmcgowan> jhodapp, there is this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1373313
[13:58] <jhodapp> pmcgowan, that needs updating, let me do that
[13:59] <pmcgowan> jhodapp, does it also need a uitk bug? or qtubuntu?
[13:59] <pmcgowan> task that is
[13:59] <jhodapp> pmcgowan, not to my knowledge, I'll redo the description as it's not quite accurate anymore, and include the sound menu again
[14:00] <pmcgowan> jhodapp, I included indicator-ound
[14:00] <pmcgowan> do not think sound menu is the right thing
[14:00] <jhodapp> pmcgowan, right, cool thanks
[14:01] <pmcgowan> popey, can you get that attention on the music app side once the api is working ^^
[14:02] <jhodapp> pmcgowan, trying to target this for the next ota?
[14:02] <popey> pmcgowan: sure.
[14:03] <popey> pmcgowan: do we have a bug tracking it that I can point the guys at? is 1373313 the right one?
[14:03] <jgdx> kenvandine, that tst-update-manager fails in trunk it seems
[14:03] <kgunn> jhodapp: i had hoped to target next ota, but if we can't we can't
[14:03] <pmcgowan> popey, yes I added a music-app task to it
[14:03] <pmcgowan> jhodapp, yes
[14:03] <jgdx> kenvandine, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11690383/
[14:03] <pmcgowan> or joe's head will explode
[14:03] <jhodapp> kgunn, pmcgowan ok, might need to see if I can get some help on this to accelerate it
[14:04] <kgunn> this is true ^^
[14:04] <jhodapp> lol
[14:04] <jhodapp> kgunn, also helping dednick to unblock him on the scope stuff
[14:05] <pmcgowan> jhodapp, I thought we loicm to help, the indicator stuff wont be bad
[14:05] <pmcgowan> thats why I thought there was qtubuntu work
[14:05] <popey> pmcgowan: ok
[14:05] <kenvandine> jgdx, interesting, but in CI it was a segfault?
[14:07] <jgdx> kenvandine, yes, but I don't know if that's accurate.
[14:07] <kenvandine> ok
[14:07] <jhodapp> pmcgowan, ok I can keep giving him stuff :)
[14:07] <kenvandine> has any of that code changed recently in trunk?
[14:10] <dobey> hmm, does anyone know if QtNetwork is using the modularized SSL stuff that uses libcurl-gnutls or libcurl-nss?
[14:10] <jgdx> kenvandine, device_name touched on that stuff, as well as seb128's if file exist-stuff
[14:10] <dobey> or perhaps just gnutls?
[14:11] <seb128> jgdx, touched what?
[14:11] <jgdx> seb128, system-update
[14:12] <seb128> hum
[14:12] <seb128> is it failing consistently?
[14:12] <seb128> the CI was fine on the mr
[14:13] <jgdx> seb128, right. Probably something wrong with the silo then.
[14:14] <kenvandine> jgdx, are you running the tests on wily of vivid?
[14:15] <kenvandine> i'm doing a trunk build to run the tests on vivid now
[14:15] <jgdx> kenvandine, trunk. I don't get failures if I run using ctest
[14:15] <jgdx> weird, all points towards silo now
[14:15] <kenvandine> ah
[14:15] <kenvandine> weird
[14:16] <jgdx> kenvandine, is it possible to go back to start in that silo?
[14:16] <jgdx> possibly collect $500
[14:20] <jgdx> seb128, new icon in silo 3 then?
[14:21] <dobey> jgdx: so i see your silo is having the same segfault issue as i am having
[14:21] <kenvandine> jgdx, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi_activate_on_click/+merge/261425
[14:22] <kenvandine> dobey, oh?
[14:22] <seb128> jgdx, seems so ;-)
[14:22] <dobey> kenvandine: new gnutls/libnettle6 in wily appears to be broken: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690433/
[14:22] <kenvandine> that could do it!
[14:22] <dobey> at least, on armhf and powerpc
[14:22] <kenvandine> jgdx, ^^
[14:23] <jgdx> look at that
[14:23] <dobey> sigh @ lack of autopkgtests for migration on armhf/powerpc
[14:23] <kenvandine> jgdx, i just confirmed that trunk passes on vivid
[14:24] <dobey> so anything that uses gnutls is going to segfault on phone, on wily images :-/
[14:24] <dobey> ugh, and no dbgsym for libnettle6 on ddebs :-/
[14:25] <ogra_> improve your guessing skills then :)
[14:25] <dobey> seb128: any suggestions on whom to poke to get this debugged further, and fixed?
[14:25] <Elleo> popey: heya, when building clicks for filemanager what do you do about the libsmbclient dependency? it doesn't look like it bundles libsmbclient.so with the package by default (unless I'm building it wrong in some way?)
[14:26] <popey> Elleo: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2015-June/015566.html
[14:26] <popey> I can't even build it!
[14:26] <Elleo> ah, heh
[14:26] <popey> looks to me like there's a problem with libsmbclient packaging, but I need someone else who knows more to take a look
[14:28] <seb128> dobey, unsure, try #ubuntu-devel, maybe mdeslaur since he's the most recently uploader for gnutls
[14:36] <kenvandine> jgdx, i added another backport to the spreadsheet
[14:53] <kenvandine> Elleo, my all_content_type branch is ready for review, when you get a chance
[14:55] <Elleo> kenvandine: cool, will take a look as soon as I've hacked together something to get this click package bundling libsmbclient
[14:56] <kenvandine> Elleo, thx
[14:56] <kenvandine> i'd like to see that too :)
[14:56] <kenvandine> Elleo, any plans to remove any of that code that we don't need?
[14:56] <kenvandine> i guess not any of that code
[14:57] <Elleo> kenvandine: I figured it made sense to leave the plugins alone, so we could share them between the projects
[14:57] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:57] <Elleo> kenvandine: most of it is upstream from nemo mobile's folderlistmodel plugin anyway
[14:58] <Elleo> kenvandine: although, it looks like that might have been rolled in to Qt.labs.folderlistmodel now
[14:59] <Elleo> kenvandine: so it might be worth rewriting a bit to use that instead
[14:59] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:59] <kenvandine> but we don't ship that?
[14:59] <kenvandine> we'd have to bundle that
[14:59] <Elleo> kenvandine: not sure, it's installed on my device without me remembering installing it myself
[15:00]  * kenvandine checks
[15:00] <kenvandine> what's the package?
[15:00] <Elleo> kenvandine: but I don't think its officially part of any framework
[15:00] <kenvandine> qml-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel
[15:00] <kenvandine> i have it too
[15:00] <Elleo> yeah
[15:00] <kenvandine> so must be included
[15:01] <kenvandine> ubuntu-sdk-libs and unity8 depends on it
[15:01] <kenvandine> and webbrowser-app
[15:01] <kenvandine> seems pretty safe :)
[15:02] <Elleo> ah, cool
[15:02] <Elleo> will just see quickly if it works with a straight substition of the two modules
[15:02] <kenvandine> cool
[15:04] <jgdx> kenvandine, cool. I am eod but will check in later
[15:05] <Elleo> kenvandine: ah no, looks like it doesn't have everything we'd need; doesn't support things like the file selection model
[15:06] <kenvandine> ok
[15:06] <kenvandine> jgdx, thx
[15:36] <awe> pmcgowan, almost finished with testing.  Also, created this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlans/network-manager
[15:38] <pmcgowan> awe, great I pointed jibel at you earlier for that
[15:39] <awe> pmcgowan, ok.  Although I still don't quite understand our testing strategy(s) and who's supposed to run what test plans...
[15:40] <awe> this plan is something that we ( as phone engineers ) will run whenever we do new uploads of NM
[15:40] <pmcgowan> awe, if we gate all nm landings via CI we can do better, per previous discussions
[15:42] <awe> pmcgowan, sure... but we had no test cases previously.  Also CI still isn't fully defined for packages like network-manager
[15:42] <awe> I have to manually upload to the phablet-team telephony PPA, and then we do a binary sync to a silo
[15:42] <awe> also still trying to work out what happens in wily
[15:58] <MoPac> Hello; I hope this is the right channel. I just tried out the Unity8/touch LXC container in a desktop. I'm wondering: is the expected behavior is for more or less everything to be broken?  I wasn't sure if the lack of usability coudl be down to an installation problem or if there's ust not much of anything you're meant to be able to do in this version at the moment
[16:17] <BonobosSake> Hi !
[16:18] <BonobosSake> I need some help in my porting
[16:57] <kenvandine> jgdx, fyi, dobey filed bug 1463875 for that segfault
[17:05] <jgdx> kenvandine, cool
[17:09] <jgdx> kenvandine, your silo failed (30)
[17:15] <cedian_linux> How do I include AppArmor in a kernel port?
[17:28] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/AppArmorForPreviousKernels
[17:28] <cedian_linux> thanks
[17:29] <ice9> after  while of running "phablet-dev-bootstrap  phablet", it exited with error.GitError: manifests rev-list ('^5287c048fd4b6f1df66ee21ecb7eb54b6bf83085', 'HEAD', '--'): fatal: bad revision 'HEAD'
[17:31] <kenvandine> jgdx, yeah... :(
[17:32] <kenvandine> jgdx, same old segfault...
[17:35] <ice9> how can I fix the above error?
[17:35] <ice9> I'm creating the env for the first time
[18:08] <ice9> I need expert in setting up the dev env! :D
[18:32] <cedian_linux> what kernel backport do I need for the apparmor?
[18:33] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: it will depend on the device/kernel
[18:33] <cedian_linux> I use the oneplus one it's a phablet oc
[18:33] <jjohansen> look at the presquash branches
[18:34] <jjohansen> the patches will say for which kernels
[18:35] <cedian_linux> thanks
[18:35] <jjohansen> so say it is a 3.10 kernel you will need 3.10 and later back port patches, but not the 3.2 ones
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> do we have cutegram on ubuntu-touch ?
[18:39] <cedian_linux> what's the diference between the backports and peesquash
[18:40] <cedian_linux> sorry presquash
[18:41] <davmor2> lotuspsychje: no just the telegram app and I think a web app in the store too
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> davmor2: ok tnx
[18:46] <cedian_linux> jjohansen what is the difference between presquash and normal backports and how do I get the files?
[18:48] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: the presquash is the set of backport patches split out into individual patches so you can pick and choose which ones are needed for your platform, eg. maguro had cherry-picked some upstream fixes so it didn't need some of the the 3.2 backport patches
[18:48] <ice9> phablet-dev-bootstrap throws "error.GitError: manifests rev-list ('^5287c048fd4b6f1df66ee21ecb7eb54b6bf83085', 'HEAD', '--'): fatal: bad revision 'HEAD'", how can I clone the repo?
[18:49] <DonkeyHotei> peesquash is when you drown an insect in urine instead of squashing it would be my guess
[18:49] <cedian_linux> I need 3.4 patches
[18:49] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: the squash is just squashing all the patches down into 1 for the platform so that it is easier to manage, there shouldn't be any difference in the code
[18:50] <cedian_linux> thanks, can I also use the linux-apparmor-backports
[18:50] <jjohansen> squashing, has its disadvantages so whether you do it is up to the person maintaining the branch
[18:50] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: not yet, I am in the process of getting that set up
[18:50] <cedian_linux> Thanks
[18:51] <jjohansen> hopefully I will finish that today
[18:51] <jjohansen> then you will be able to use it and it will be the tree we point people at
[18:51] <cedian_linux> can I use this one? ubuntu-vivid.git
[18:52] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: yes, though IIRC ubuntu-vivid.git didn't have the backport patches split out
[18:52] <cedian_linux> Ok
[18:52] <cedian_linux> Then I should use utopic, don't I?
[18:53] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: if you can wait a few hours there should be something in the linux-apparmor-backports tree you can use
[18:53] <cedian_linux> I can't wait a few hours
[18:53] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: it is being setup to be very easy to use, so you just pick a branch that is close to your kernel
[18:53] <cedian_linux> thanks
[18:54] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: ack, so I would use a mix of ubuntu-vivid and ubuntu-utopic
[18:54] <jjohansen> vivid for the latest apparmor, utopic for the broken out backport patches
[18:55] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: of course you could probably just grab, ubuntu-vivid mako or gold fish apparmor dir
[18:55] <cedian_linux> thanks
[18:55] <jjohansen> and not worry about the individual patches
[18:55] <cedian_linux> thank you, I'll do that
[19:08] <cedian_linux> error: pathspec 'mako-aa3-backport-presquash' did not match any file(s) known to git.
[19:09] <cedian_linux> sorry was looking at Utopic
[19:14] <cedian_linux> what is git checkout
[19:49] <jgdx> kenvandine, ping
[19:50] <jgdx> kenvandine, can USS pick contacts using contacthub? I.e., does contact hub support that?
[19:51]  * jgdx brb, GOT
[20:00] <cedian_linux> can't run make at my config
[20:00] <cedian_linux> gives this error: warning: (DRM && ION) selects DMA_SHARED_BUFFER which has unmet direct dependencies (EXPERIMENTAL)
[20:01] <cedian_linux> warning: (ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU) selects ACPI_CONTAINER which has unmet direct dependencies (ACPI && EXPERIMENTAL)
[20:01] <cedian_linux> #
[20:01] <cedian_linux> # configuration written to .config
[20:01] <cedian_linux> #
[20:01] <cedian_linux> warning: (DRM && ION) selects DMA_SHARED_BUFFER which has unmet direct dependencies (EXPERIMENTAL)
[20:01] <cedian_linux> warning: (ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU) selects ACPI_CONTAINER which has unmet direct dependencies (ACPI && EXPERIMENTAL)
[20:01] <cedian_linux> make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
[20:01] <cedian_linux> make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'relocs'.
[20:01] <cedian_linux>   CHK     include/linux/version.h
[20:01] <cedian_linux>   CHK     include/generated/utsrelease.h
[20:01] <cedian_linux>   CALL    scripts/checksyscalls.sh
[20:01] <cedian_linux>   CHK     include/generated/compile.h
[20:01] <cedian_linux>   CC      arch/x86/kernel/pci-dma.o
[20:01] <cedian_linux> arch/x86/kernel/pci-dma.c: In function ‘dma_generic_alloc_coherent’:
[20:01] <cedian_linux> arch/x86/kernel/pci-dma.c:112:8: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
[20:01] <cedian_linux> error, forbidden warning: pci-dma.c:112
[20:01] <cedian_linux> scripts/Makefile.build:307: recipe for target 'arch/x86/kernel/pci-dma.o' failed
[20:01] <cedian_linux> make[2]: *** [arch/x86/kernel/pci-dma.o] Error 1
[20:01] <cedian_linux> scripts/Makefile.build:443: recipe for target 'arch/x86/kernel' failed
[20:01] <cedian_linux> make[1]: *** [arch/x86/kernel] Error 2
[20:01] <cedian_linux> Makefile:950: recipe for target 'arch/x86' failed
[20:01] <cedian_linux> make: *** [arch/x86] Error 2
[20:05] <dobey> cedian_linux: please use a pastebin site like paste.ubuntu.com for future pastes like that
[20:05] <cedian_linux> ok
[20:09] <hevyhomie> can anyone point me in the right direction? I am porting touch to moto e (can't find an image anywhere on the net), and I am stuck after 1) . build/envsetup.sh 2) lunch 3) pick #. After which I get build/core/product_config.mk:222: *** Can not locate config makefile for product "condor" something about a product spec?
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> hevyhomie: did you try the XDA forums for existing projects?
[20:13] <hevyhomie> i did no luck
[20:13] <hevyhomie> i mean no existing projects are under development
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> hevyhomie: ok then your pretty on your own for this i think :p
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> hevyhomie: i presume you found the porting guide also: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/
[20:17] <hevyhomie> yes i copied relevant files from cyanogenmod(respect to them) into the phablet folders respectively
[20:18] <hevyhomie> device, hardware and vendor i believe
[20:19] <hevyhomie> then I ran the kernel config script :check-config <defconfig file> -w
[20:19] <hevyhomie> i decided not use apparmor3 yet
[20:20] <JimHatley> testing... testing... Am I connected to #ubuntu-touch?
[20:21] <hevyhomie> then i decided to build,
[20:21] <JimHatley> I think I'm connected...
[20:22] <hevyhomie> btw i found a thread on xda, but no dev project currently:http://forum.xda-developers.com/ubuntu-touch/android-ports/port-request-ubuntu-touch-moto-e-gen1-t3043485
[20:22] <JimHatley> Hey guys... Not sure of protocol here, but I have a couple of minor questions if anyone has any answers...
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> hevyhomie: cant really help you more, im just a happy touch user here
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> hevyhomie: idle here for the devs to awaken :p
[20:23] <hevyhomie> lotuspsychje: thanks for answering :)
[20:24] <JimHatley> Ahh... Yeah, might need a dev. Need to know the command name for the lock screen notification circle so I can kill it.  It doesn't tell me anything I need to know, and blocks my sweet wallpaper at the only time I can actually see iy!
[20:24] <JimHatley> *it
[20:27] <hevyhomie> brb
[20:41] <cedian_linux> What did I do wrong jjohansen?
[20:41] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: give me a minute to read back scroll
[20:41] <cedian_linux> Ok
[20:42] <ogra_> cedian_linux, looks like you are building an x86 kernel there ... was that what you wanted ?
[20:42] <cedian_linux> No
[20:43] <cedian_linux> That's the problem then, I'll report it
[20:43] <jjohansen> you will need to setup your cross compile environment
[20:43] <cedian_linux> Ok
[20:44] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ARMKernelCrossCompile should have what you are looking for
[20:45] <ogra_> jjohansen, thats pretty ubuntu .deb centric though ...
[20:45] <jjohansen> true
[20:45] <ogra_> export CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- ... export ARCH=arm  are the two vars you want to have set ...
[20:46] <ogra_> (and indeed make sure to have the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf compiler installed ... that should be enough)
[20:51] <cedian_linux> Shouldn't it be armhf ogra_
[20:52] <ogra_> no, arm is correct (thats a kernel variable ... while armhf is a debian architecture)
[20:52] <cedian_linux> Thanks
[20:52] <ogra_> (the latter refers to packaging)
[20:52] <cedian_linux> I'll leave for now sent myself a mail and I'll go to sleep
[20:52] <ogra_> well, good luck :)
[20:52] <ogra_> meh
[21:09] <ice9> I'm trying to create env dir using phablet-dev...  but after it downloaded about 3.5GB I get "error.GitError: manifests rev-list ('^5287c048fd4b6f1df66ee21ecb7eb54b6bf83085', 'HEAD', '--'): fatal: bad revision 'HEAD'"


[03:01] <coz_> good day
[03:07] <troy_s> coz_: Greets Coz.
[03:09] <coz_> troy_s,  hey guy
[03:11] <coz_> troy_s,  first time in a while I had a smile when leaving irc on this channel after speaking with brandonb  yesterday
[03:11] <troy_s> coz_: Yes. I'd hope he continues on, and more importantly, returns.
[03:12] <coz_> troy_s,  absolutely...
[03:14] <troy_s> coz_: Trying to get a single bit of fresh blood to come to Libre software after going through education and such is likely a difficult task. One that needs some attention I think...
[03:16] <coz_> troy_s,    I think I agree :)
[09:32] <evilvish> thorwil: hmm, IMO, the flickr thing might also exist in the tasks.. (if we consider taking a photo a task ;p )
[09:35] <evilvish> thorwil: in the sense, what is the difference between the "get involved" and "places" sections?..
[09:36] <thorwil> evilvish: get involved is about communication
[09:37] <evilvish> whaa??
[09:38] <evilvish> right!
[09:38] <evilvish> but that does not make sense! ;p
[09:38] <evilvish> some of that info needs to be in "contact" header or something.
[09:40] <thorwil> makes no sense to me that this wouldn't make sense to you
[09:41] <evilvish> thorwil: what is the first thing that comes to your mind when you hear "get involved" ?
[09:42] <thorwil> evilvish: i expect to read how i can get into contact
[09:42] <evilvish> weird!
[09:43] <thorwil> what do you expect in contrast?
[09:44] <evilvish> well, i would expect "what/how i can get involved" and depending on the project the expectation varies
[09:44] <evilvish> for an artwork, i would expect what i can do..
[09:45] <evilvish> if it was for some charity, i would expect where i could donate or how i could raise awareness
[09:46] <evilvish> while the latter could include steps to contact, it would also include what i could be expected to do..
[09:47] <thorwil> evilvish: but communication is the deciding factor in involvement with a team
[09:47] <evilvish> it depends on how it is woven into context..
[09:47] <evilvish> while that section seems very oddly formatted to me..
[09:48] <thorwil> evilvish: feel encouraged to improve the structure of that page :)
[09:49] <evilvish> thorwil: well, noting that john redid that page.. any changes i do, would be bullying ;p
[09:49] <thorwil> evilvish: great, that's what you clearly excel in ;)
[09:49]  * evilvish fine with seeing less john activity.. and doesnt want to provoke john 2.0
[09:51] <thorwil> evilvish: don't be a coward. zero is the right amount of influence, so don't even think about him
[09:51] <evilvish> hehe!
[09:54]  * evilvish stares bewildered at doctormo, you are involved in the illustration task and you were confused about "nod from the desktop team" ;p
[09:56] <evilvish> noting that very few people were even aware of the deviant group(aside from the deviant submitters), i guess we totally failed at raising awareness last time..
[09:58] <thorwil> i suspect that years were spend effectively chasing away people that were really interested and there's only a trickle of newcomers
[09:59] <evilvish> yea.. :(
[09:59] <thorwil> most of which seem to have no idea and might require an amount of hand holding that nobody here can offer
[10:00] <thorwil> and then i guess what's left regarding activities doesn't seem worthwhile to many. heck, it doesn't even seem terrible worthwhile to me
[10:01] <evilvish> heh
[10:02] <evilvish> well, like how ubuntu was first "no-name-yet" , maybe we should rename the artwork team to "no-purpose-yet" , maybe that might help finding a purpose;p
[10:03] <thorwil> nah, the right name, currently, is clearly: "just a few wallpapers"
[10:04] <evilvish> lol!
[21:16] <thorwil> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2011/01/15/backtestground-0-2/


[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69016 in krusader (universe) "incomplete dependencies, parts of krusader do not work correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69016
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72252 in djvulibre (main) "Please sync djvulibre (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72252
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72253 in enchant (main) "Please sync enchant (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72253
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72255 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "hard disk speed regression" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72255
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72256 in libcairo-perl (main) "Please sync libcairo-perl (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72256
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72257 in qemu (universe) "[Patch]  Compilation broken on PPC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72257
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72259 in Ubuntu "crashes when booting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72259
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72258 in adonthell (universe) "adonthell: Please review/sponsor the upload of this merged package." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72258
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72260 in qemu (universe) "[Patch]  char signedness bug in softfloat-native" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72260
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71552 in xen-source-2.6.17 (universe) "Kernel panic on AMD64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71552
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72261 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus crashed while copying files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72261
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72262 in openoffice.org (main) "Form Wizard in Base does not complete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72262
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72263 in xorg (main) "Blank video playback in multimedia players" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72263
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72264 in dpatch (main) "hack to make dpatch-get-origtargz work with debian/watch files that provides .tar.bz2s." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72264
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72265 in amarok (main) "xine will give an error if amarok autostarts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72265
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72266 in xserver-xgl (universe) "XGL crashed when opening a web browser, then again when relogging in" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72266
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72268 in openoffice.org (main) "Print Page View Button Unavailable from Page Preview" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72268
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72269 in libpam-mount (universe) "please merge 0.18-2 from debian sid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72269
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72270 in nautilus (main) "Infinite loop eventually trashing the system due to memory usage " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72270
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72271 in iptables (main) "ipset missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72271
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72272 in Ubuntu "Sound dont work if i (un)plug the headphone" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72272
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72273 in ipodder (universe) "Ipodder crashes upon exit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72273
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72274 in fam (universe) "Please merge 2.7.0-11 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72274
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71911 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "Kubuntu Usplash progress bar fails at 800x600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71911
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69411 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "GNOME CD burner hangs on "Write to Disc" dialog" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69411
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71980 in dmraid (universe) "dmraid: sync new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71980
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72275 in cryptsetup (universe) "Please merge 1.0.4-8 from debian sid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72275
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72276 in xchat (universe) "xchat crashes on minimize (edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72276
[05:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72277 in Ubuntu "Dapper->Edgy Upgrade problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72277
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72278 in grub (main) "update-grub's lockold locks all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72278
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72279 in openoffice.org (main) "Save as still using media:/ kio instead of true path" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72279
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72280 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager creates 3 throttles, only releases 1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72280
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72281 in ubiquity (main) "Unable to install with following bug..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72281
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72283 in ubiquity (main) "resumed install failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72283
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72284 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "All nautilus windows become unresponsive when asked to copy a large directory into burn:///" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72284
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72012 in aptitude (main) "aptitude pegs cpu for extended period of time on startup (again)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72012
[08:28] <what_if> does anyone know how to force the installer to use the vesa driver instead of the NV driver ??
[08:28] <what_if> I cannot install ubuntu and other distros lack the packages that I need
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72285 in network-manager (main) "Just a bad Translate." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72285
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72286 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72286
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72287 in hal (main) "macbook backlight" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72287
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71638 in openoffice.org (main) "Writer crashes when insert digital signature" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71638
[09:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72288 in scribus (main) "suggests scribus-doc, which is not available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72288
[09:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72289 in gs-esp (main) "Crash of gs-esp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72289
[09:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72290 in kradio (universe) "Memory leak" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72290
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72291 in kubuntu-docs (main) "Problem with the application khelpcenter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72291
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72292 in fuse (main) "fuse-utils fails to install if there is no fuse module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72292
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72293 in dosfstools (main) "Boot fs-check error - Differences between boot sector and back-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72293
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72296 in freeradius (universe) "package missing init.d files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72296
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72294 in gdm (main) "[gdm] [l10n-fr]  Caps lock displays the wrong message." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72294
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72295 in xubuntu-meta (main) "error invalid compressed format" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72295
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71644 in netkit-tftp (universe) "not compatible with ipv6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71644
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72297 in asciidoc (main) "a2x depends on fop.sh" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72297
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72298 in alacarte (main) "Adding a new menu item Alacarte crash and exit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72298
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72299 in Ubuntu "kernel panic not syncing boot livecd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72299
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72301 in sylpheed-gtk1 (universe) "[Merge]  sylpheed-gtk1 1.0.6-4ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72301
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72302 in sip4-qt3 (main) "Installing python-sip4 remove hwdb-client-kde kubuntu-desktop python-qt4 on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72302
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72303 in acpi-support (main) "Scroll wheel on mouse not working after suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72303
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72304 in nautilus (main) ""Deleted items folder" name doesn't make sense" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72304
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72305 in firefox (main) "crash when Restore Session with 10+ tabs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72305
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72306 in entity (universe) "entity: Please sponsor/upload this merged package." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72306
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72307 in Ubuntu "Mouse Freeze Edgy Switch User" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72307
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72308 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Dim panel on idle not working correctly with Asus V6J" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72308
[12:51] <Hobbsee> palski: ping?
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72309 in update-manager (main) "Dapper to Edgy update gets stuck on bluez-tools (workaround enclosed)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72309
[01:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72020 in brasero (universe) "No graba discos Dont burn any cd/dvd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72020
[01:02] <palski> Hobbsee: hi
[01:02] <Hobbsee> palski: heya!  got more stuff to upload?
[01:03] <palski> some yes
[01:03] <Hobbsee> palski: bug numbers?
[01:03] <pygi> why do I have to talk every language in a world :P
[01:03] <Hobbsee> pygi: because you're pygi.
[01:03] <pygi> Hobbsee: I mean just look at bug #72020
[01:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72020 in brasero "No graba discos Dont burn any cd/dvd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72020
[01:03] <pygi> Hobbsee: and there were several like that already :)
[01:04] <Hobbsee> pygi: fun.
[01:04] <pygi> Hobbsee: lol, why is everyone laughing :(
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72310 in Ubuntu "isapnp hangs on boot time kernel 2.6.17-10-generic (ubuntu edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72310
[01:05] <pygi> Hobbsee: oh
[01:06] <palski> Hobbsee: bug #67816
[01:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67816 in kiso "kiso crashes with *** stack smashing detected ***" [Undecided,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67816
[01:08] <Hobbsee> 38783
[01:08] <Hobbsee> bug 38783
[01:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 38783 in magic-haskell "Lacks content" [Medium,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/38783
[01:08] <Hobbsee> debian 361573
[01:08] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 361573 in magic-haskell-doc "magic-haskell-doc: Lacks content." [Important,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/361573
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72312 in jack-audio-connection-kit (universe) "started ardour and bzzzzt." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72312
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72311 in magic-haskell (universe) "Please sync magic-haskell (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72311
[01:29] <Hobbsee> palski: oh dear, got sidetracked.
[01:29] <Hobbsee> palski: did some merging.
[01:29] <palski> :)
[01:30] <Hobbsee> palski: have you sent that upstream?
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72314 in firefox (main) "Unexpected crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72314
[01:30] <palski> wait, i'll check usually i do but...
[01:32] <palski> Hobbsee: Yes, I have sent email about it to upstream but haven't got any feedback :(
[01:33] <Mez> Hobbsee, get some sleep
[01:33] <Hobbsee> palski: okay, cool
[01:33] <Hobbsee> Mez: i could do that, yes
[01:34] <Hobbsee> palski: path in the debdiff is wrong
[01:35] <palski> Hobbsee: what path?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> palski: you need to take all the /tmp/guoslHOI8F/ and /tmp/WRi4Q0GAAk/ bits out
[01:35] <Hobbsee> else it doesnt patch
[01:35] <palski> it did for me
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72313 in rsibreak (universe) "Please sync rsibreak (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72313
[01:35] <Hobbsee> palski: it doesnt with the way debhelper handles it
[01:36] <Hobbsee> (seeing as those dirs dont actually exist on hte buildds)
[01:38] <Hobbsee> palski: i fixed it locally, but it's probably handy to know for next time
[01:39] <Hobbsee> palski: got other bug fixes to upload?
[01:39] <palski> Thanks, that was new to me, becouse thouse were successfully build on my system...
[01:40] <Hobbsee> ahh
[01:40] <Hobbsee> it seems to reference them from the source dir
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72316 in fv (universe) "fv: Please review/sponsor this merged package." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72316
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72315 in socketapi (universe) "Please sync socketapi (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72315
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72317 in firefox (main) "Crash after switching to other tab (many tabs open)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72317
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71612 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "writing several CDs doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71612
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72318 in gaim (main) "Doesn't update conference server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72318
[01:51] <pygi> ergh, damn n-c-b!!!
[01:52] <Hobbsee> pygi: get fixing!  :P
[01:52] <pygi> Hobbsee: will do, just not right now. FIx is to rewrite it completely
[01:53] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:53] <pygi> Hobbsee: to use libburn ofcourse
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72319 in gdm (main) "Fast user switching doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72319
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72320 in kdebase (main) "/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu does not exist after installing kdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72320
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72321 in sane-backends-extras (universe) "Include Brother scanner drivers (brother2, brother)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72321
[02:33] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[02:33] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72323 in ubiquity (main) "Ubiquity does not check if there's enough free space for installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72323
[03:09] <blue-frog> hi think it's a bug but i don't know how to file it.. wihtout acpi=off I have wifi card recognised by edgy but no cdrom, with acpi=off it's vice versa. with dapper i had both with acpi on
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72325 in hal (main) "NEC dvd-writer ND2500 cannot burn anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72325
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72326 in debian-installer (main) "Edgy netboot kernel-panics (Dapper works fine)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72326
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72324 in cupsys (main) "cupsys depends on Xlib" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72324
[03:13] <bddebian> Boo
[03:15] <pygi> omg, why so much burning related bugs
[03:15] <pygi> s
[03:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72327 in backup-manager (universe) "incremental backups do not work when directory name contains digits " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72327
[03:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72328 in Ubuntu "File system check failed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72328
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72329 in firefox (main) "crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72329
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72330 in gdm (main) "Login not possible when password contains umlauts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72330
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72331 in libxml2 (main) "libxml2-dev package has not be built for new version of libxml2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72331
[04:12] <pirast> bug 58721
[04:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58721 in xserver-xorg-video-mga "Edgy upgrade breaks multiple Matrox cards" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58721
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72332 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "thunderbird crashes on start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72332
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72333 in banshee (universe) "Crashes when attempting to access Creative Zen Micro" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72333
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72334 in hp2xx (universe) "hp2xx creates core dump" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72334
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71590 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Firefox crashes unexpectedly " [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71590
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72335 in quodlibet (universe) "Crash during use of info-window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72335
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72336 in update-manager (main) "Gnome sessions refuse to login after updates in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72336
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72337 in Ubuntu "wake from sleep problem in edgy on Powerbook G4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72337
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72338 in kernel-package (main) "Possible typo in kernel/Control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72338
[05:20] <crimsun> slick, just closed a dozen flashplugin-nonfree bugs.
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72339 in noteedit (universe) "Doesn't show up in the ``Applications'' menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72339
[05:25] <PriceChild> go crimsun :D
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72340 in gaim (main) "crash while trying to send one contact to another" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72340
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72341 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[network-admin]  setting domain name changes localhost alias only for the first time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72341
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72342 in gcompris (main) "Crash when clicking on help icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72342
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72343 in evince (main) "Printing even/odd pages doesnt work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72343
[05:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72344 in matplotlib (universe) "[Edgy]  Matplotlib has broken build dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72344
[06:19] <secretlondon> hi
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72345 in gnome-python-extras (main) "Gtkmozembed crashes on show_all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72345
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68939 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Window defaults as being too small/hard to read" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68939
[06:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72026 in speedcrunch (main) "speedcrunch crash with a segmentation fault" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72026
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72346 in Ubuntu "System unusable when internet connection down and domain name set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72346
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72008 in xchat (universe) "Crashed on quit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72008
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72347 in binutils (main) "building cross compiler according to README.cross broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72347
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72349 in cryptsetup (universe) "Crypted usb drive can't be mounted anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72349
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69265 in cupsys (main) "Cups prints only first job on USB printer " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69265
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72350 in adept (main) "got sigsev error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72350
[07:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72351 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "kernel panic when booting (init)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72351
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72352 in libmetakit<IP_ADDRESS> (universe) "dependency sharing problem in metakit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72352
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72353 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "X cannot start with Intel 855GM intergrated graphics" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72353
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72354 in ygraph (universe) "Please sync ygraph (universe) 0.15-3 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72354
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72355 in toolchain-source (universe) "fails to build for i686-linux on edgy amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72355
[08:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69504 in lirc (main) "Cannot play movies on shared network drive (SMB) using Totem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69504
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72356 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72356
[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72358 in ubiquity (main) "Installation to hd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72358
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72360 in acpi-support (main) "Please whitelist Lenovo 3000 C100 for suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72360
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72361 in xserver-xorg-driver-i810 (main) "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72361
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72362 in ubiquity (main) "Error installing KUBUNTU 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72362
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72363 in Ubuntu "Lenovo 3000 C100 suspend and hibernate hotkeys don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72363
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72364 in gksu (main) "Bug when Ilaunch wifi radar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72364
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71486 in evolution (main) "Changing focus after entering a bad date results in a crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71486
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72365 in compiz (universe) "resort to power-of-two textures if needed" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72365
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71795 in xscreensaver (main) "Hack "glhanoi" has an assertion failure." [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71795
[10:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72366 in firefox (main) "Random crashing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72366
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72367 in cinepaint (universe) "Cinepaint is not installable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72367
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72370 in pppoeconf (main) "[Merge]  pppoeconf 1.12ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72370
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72368 in evolution (main) "evolution smtp fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72368
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72369 in gtk+2.0 (main) "Add search functionnality in gtkfilechooser" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72369
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72371 in gdis (universe) "gdis: Please review/upload this merged package." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72371
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72372 in kdebase (main) "Safely remove does not work if you have ttf files in the device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72372
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72373 in amarok (main) "amarok runs extremely slowly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72373
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71579 in graveman (universe) "crash while writing a previously recorded iso image to CD-ROM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71579
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72374 in pybliographer (universe) "Please update to latest version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72374
[11:24] <pygi> ergh, stop reporting burning problems =)
[11:24] <pygi> Bug joerg :P
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72375 in xorg-server (main) "Xorg segfault in DRIDoBlockHandler" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72375
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72376 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashes when playing a file in the queue immediately after starting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72376


[08:27] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[08:47] <popey> Morning!
[11:29] <popey> nhandler, I saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale14x - do you need help on the booth?
[11:29] <popey> Happy to come down to the booth and help out.
[13:19] <dholbach> a jetlagged hello from the other side of the world :)
[13:21] <davidcalle> Hey dholbach o/ How was the flight?
[13:21] <dholbach> a bit long, but good :-)
[13:21] <dholbach> I'm working from Lisa's sister's today :)
[13:22] <davidcalle> dholbach: ah cool, was Lisa flying with you?
[13:23] <dholbach> no, she had a bunch of other things to do, so couldn't come
[13:23] <dholbach> but I thought I'd do it in any case as it's just a couple of miles from Pasadena
[13:24] <davidcalle> :)
[13:36] <popey> dholbach, hey!
[13:36] <dholbach> hey popey
[13:36] <popey> dholbach, when you coming down to UbuCon / SCaLE?
[13:36] <popey> I'm arriving Monday afternoon (your time)
[13:37] <dholbach> ah cool - I think my reservation in the westin was from tuesday onwards?
[13:37] <popey> ok
[13:38] <dholbach> let me check
[13:39] <dholbach> yeah
[13:39] <svij> only the cool people arrive on wednesday!
[13:39] <dholbach> svij: not convinced...
[13:39] <svij> pah
[13:40] <popey> Only the cool people arrive next week :)
[13:40] <popey> I think is fairer :)
[13:41] <dholbach> not convinced either
[13:42] <dholbach> although... given that I'm not in Pasadena yet...
[13:42] <popey> \o/ success
[13:46] <svij> popey: agree, that's even better!
 [06:29:31] I saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale14x - do you need help on the booth? // <popey> [06:29:50] Happy to come down to the booth and help out. <-- nhaines (not in this channel) but we'd love an extra hand for the booth if you have time :)
[13:47] <popey> oh, i pinged the wrong person like a fool
[13:48] <jose> both are on 'nh<tab>' so I *always* do that
[13:49] <popey> hm, why is he not here, silly rabbit
[13:49] <svij> He's atleast in -locoteams
[13:49] <jose> I don't know, maybe he doesn't know about this channel
[13:49] <jose> svij: well, he's in the loco council...
[13:50] <svij> oh right, loco council…
[13:50] <jose> anyways, last call: anyone wants anything from Peru? I'm going shopping later today
[13:50]  * svij wonders what happened to his loco council application thing from a few month ago.
[14:30] <balloons> Jose, what's possible? :)
[14:30] <jose> balloons: well, ask and we'll see
[14:30] <jose> I'm taking a bag inside of a bag, so I have space
[14:31] <balloons> Jose, perhaps a woven hammock? It would need to be really long though, I'm a long guy
[14:31] <balloons> Proper ones are hard to get here
[14:31] <jose> lol
[14:33] <jose> tbh, I don't even know where to get hammocks, not that common here (even though I've seen a couple here and there)
[15:22] <jose> dpm: ping, tienes un segundo?
[15:30] <dpm> jose, si
[15:35] <czajkowski> ohh are you guys running http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/01/15/ubuntu-is-coming-to-a-city-near-you
[15:54] <mhall119> nope, we'll all still be recovering from UbuCon+SCALE
[17:10] <nhandler> popey: I see jose already told you that you probably want nhai<tab> in this case :P But I look forward to seeing you there in a few short days :)
[17:42] <dholbach> popey: which access to community-announce@ do you need?
[17:42] <popey> i dont think my listadmin has it
[17:42] <dholbach> ah ok
[17:43]  * popey checks
[17:43] <popey> yeah, i dont have it
[17:43] <popey> 1000 other lists I do have :D
[17:45] <pleia2> looks like there were two messages sent by David Callé?
[17:45] <pleia2> one is in the moderation queue, the other went through
[17:45] <pleia2> I assume I can delete the additional one
[17:46] <pleia2> popey: ^^
[17:46]  * popey looks
[17:46] <pleia2> someone let https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/community-announce/2016-January/000036.html through
[17:46] <pleia2> looks like a duplicate was sent a few seconds after that
[17:47] <pleia2> now it's gone :\
[17:47] <popey> ok, -> /dev/null
[17:47] <pleia2> I guess someone else logged in to take care of it
[17:47]  * popey takes hands off keyboard
[17:47] <popey> wasn't me!
[17:47] <pleia2> oh well
[17:52] <popey> mhall119, dpm davidcalle dholbach who wants to do Q&A next week?
[17:52] <popey> I'll be in my hotel room I guess - dunno what time it will be
[17:53] <mhall119> I'll be at home still (leaving the following morning) so I can
[17:53] <dholbach> popey: 8
[17:53] <popey> 4pm GMT is... uh... maths is hard
[17:53] <popey> so 10AM?
[17:53] <mhall119> 9am I think
[17:53] <dholbach> 08:00
[17:53] <popey> nope, I can't count
[17:53] <popey> blimey, subjecting our community to me at 8am on video sounds like a bad idea
[17:53] <popey> but sure!
[17:53] <dholbach> I'm in California already and 8 is what my calendar says
[17:54] <mhall119> is it 1700 UTC or 1600 UTC?
[17:55] <popey> 16:00 UTC
[17:55] <popey> same as always :)
[17:55] <mhall119> so california is UTC-8
[17:55] <dpm> popey, I think I can hardly do it from the plane :)
[17:55] <mhall119> so, yeah, 8am
[17:55] <popey> Excuses, excuses.
[17:56] <popey> Ok, count me in
[17:56] <mhall119> dpm: just expence the in-fight wifi
[17:56] <popey> I'll be awake due to jetlag anyway
[17:56] <mhall119> popey: heh, true
[17:56] <dpm> mhall119, yeah, I was planning to do the same with the champagne
[17:57] <mhall119> you mean you're not flying 1st class like the rest of us?
[17:58]  * dpm is probably doing something wrong
[17:58]  * popey notes Stuart applied for ESTA while _in_ the check in queue on his phone :)
[17:58] <popey> last minute :)
[17:58] <dpm> wow
[18:00] <mhall119> ESTA?
[18:01] <dholbach> visa waiver for the us
[18:03] <popey> Papers!
[18:04] <mhall119> ah
[18:09] <svij> dpm: you know why my and your talk on the scale schedule are swapped, compared to the ubucon.org schedule?
[18:10] <dpm> svij, they are out of sync. SCALE reflects the latest status, so let me fix (and add popey's talk to the schedule along the way)
[18:11] <svij> ah ok
[18:11] <svij> oh, I wanted to see jonos talk…
[18:14] <svij> atleast I can now check if dpm added my photo to the slide with the faces of the insiders… ;)
[18:14] <popey> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/4148tv/ubuntu_scopes_showdown_2016_js_and_go_now_options/
[18:35] <dpm> ok... day of exciting news today, just got off a call to confirm we'll be running a raffle giving away one of the new dell xps 13 laptops at ubucon summit! :)
[18:37] <dholbach> woohoo
[18:37] <dpm> ok,
[18:37] <dpm> seems xorg got excited too... and crashed
[18:39] <dholbach> jono: hippie!
[18:39] <jono> dholbach, usually :-)
[18:39] <jono> dholbach, when do you get into LA?
[18:40] <dholbach> jono: already there :-)
[18:40] <jono> really?
[18:40] <dholbach> yeah
[18:40] <dholbach> Lisa's sister lives South of LA, so I flew here yesterday and visit them until SCALE and UbuCon start next week :)
[19:09] <dpm> ok, the initial laptop raffle announcement is out
[19:11]  * dholbach hugs dpm
[19:11]  * dpm hugs dholbach back
[19:11] <dholbach> this is ramping up to be a really really nice event :)
[19:12] <dpm> \o/
[19:18] <dholbach> dpm, davidcalle: you're still working late today
[19:19] <dpm> still a bit to do :)
[19:29] <dpm> ok, I think that's all for today, though
[19:29] <dpm> I'm flying on Tuesday, so still a few days to see everyone
[19:29] <dpm> have a nice weekend you all!
[22:24] <davidcalle> dholbach: not working, IRC Cloud keeps me connected :)
[22:24] <dholbach> davidcalle: you're still online... or is it your bot answering now? :)
[22:24] <dholbach> I have an excuse - it's 14:24 over here :)
[22:25] <davidcalle> statusupdate-bot: !update
[22:25] <statusupdate-bot> * Fixing stuff
[22:25] <statusupdate-bot> * Fixing more stuff
[22:25] <statusupdate-bot> * Beer!
[22:25] <davidcalle> dholbach: it's me, my bot only knows one stuff :p
[22:27] <dholbach> :-)
[22:27] <davidcalle> dholbach: have a nice week-end :)
[22:27] <dholbach> you too!
[22:27] <dholbach> see you next week :)
[22:27] <davidcalle> Yes!
[23:07] <nhandler> dholbach: You are in California right now?
[23:07] <dholbach> yes
[23:08] <pleia2> is this being coordinated with LoCos? http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/01/15/ubuntu-is-coming-to-a-city-near-you/
[23:08] <pleia2> nominally trying to figure out where to put it in the newsletter, but interested to know broadly too
[23:09] <dholbach> pleia2: I have no idea
[23:09] <pleia2> nice
[23:09] <pleia2> is it being coordinated with the community team? ;D
[23:10] <dholbach> the community team is doing less cloud stuff
[23:10] <dholbach> maybe Jorge knows?
[23:11] <pleia2> jcastro: ^^
[23:11] <dholbach> all I can say is: I saw the article this morning and only skimmed over it because I had a few other things to do and am jetlagged still :)
[23:11] <pleia2> if it's a cloud thing I don't have high hopes that they're working with the LoCos, they typically haven't when coming to California at least
[23:11] <pleia2> I find out maybe the day of the event (if I find out at all)
[23:12] <pleia2> dholbach: welcome to my time zone :) happy birthday
[23:12] <dholbach> it's not my birthday here yet ;-)
[23:12] <dholbach> but thanks :-)
[23:12]  * dholbach hugs pleia2
[23:12] <dholbach> <3
[23:12]  * pleia2 hugs


[04:17] <mathwerk> hello
[08:03] <krisux> buenos dias
[08:03] <sunstar> hi
[16:15] <keytarman> Hello there
[16:15] <keytarman> I wonder if anyone could please give me an advise on my wineasio
[16:16] <keytarman> Did anyone  here have an experience  with it?
[16:18] <keytarman> I have managed to install it on my ubuntu-studio 14 , it finally appeared under the ASIO list in both Reaper and Ableton 9, running on play on linux. Both are 32bit. qjackctl seems to be running and returns no errors.
[16:19] <keytarman> However when I press play nothing happens, the cursor is not moving (yet the play button turns green(
[16:19] <keytarman> I am on Focusrite scarlett 2i2 usb soundcard if that helps
[16:55] <zequence> keytarman: Don't see many people who use that here. Try #opensourcemusicians
[17:26] <keytarman> Thanks, I will try to ask there!
[18:19] <LinuxManDan> Has anyone tried the development version of Kazam (1.5.3) and is able to broadcast to youtube live?  It starts then quits when I try.
[19:21] <LinuxManDan> Has anyone tried the development version of Kazam (1.5.3)?
[19:22] <LinuxManDan> I'm tryin to see if anyone is able to live stream to youtube live.  So far It starts and then stops (the stream).


[19:59] <danielv> where about can i find auto-expire settings on mythbuntu? i looked on mythtv how to wiki page! which says look in settings>tv settings>general, but i can't find this!!
[20:03] <danielv> is that on frontend or backend??? can't seem to find in either!!