[06:25] <ievans3024> yay, I get to figure out what's wrong with kmenuedit too
[06:25] <ievans3024> it refuses to save any changes, dunno why
[06:26] <ievans3024> oh, nevermind
[06:26] <ievans3024> think i may have found it
[06:26] <ievans3024> "kmenuedit(2249)/kdecore (services) KServicePrivate::init: The desktop entry file  "/home/ian/.local/share/applications/SkinEdit-5.desktop"  has Type= "Application"  but no Exec line "
[06:31] <ievans3024> it's not creating the .desktop files right, not sure why
[06:34] <ievans3024> it does too have an exec line
[06:35] <ievans3024> it's just not detecting it?
[06:40] <ievans3024> strange, the menu entry exists in .config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu, the .desktop file exists for the entry i just created
[06:41] <ievans3024> but it's not showing, even after i killed plasma-desktop and restarted it
[07:15] <ievans3024> this has me seriously thinking about using openbox instead of kde
[07:16] <ievans3024> the menu config file for kmenu is garbage
[07:16] <ievans3024> never realized it was this bad
[07:17] <ievans3024> they're using markup to mark deletions, or moved entries, instead of simply maintaining backups between saves or something else
[07:18] <ievans3024> and kmenuedit apparently has as much trouble as i do making sense of the config, because it's creating duplicate entries, hiding entries that shouldn't be hidden, etc.
[07:19] <ievans3024> brb configuring OB
[20:08] <valorie> sorry I haven't been here much, my dad broke his hip on Thurs. and he had surgery this morning - gotta go now


[06:29] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:16] <Bashing-om> I got to bail out !
[10:59] <BluesKaj-pi> Hiyas all
[19:44] <nicomachus> just installed Nougat on my Nexus
[19:44] <nicomachus> it's... ok.
[19:59] <nacc> nicomachus: maybe a not noticeable upgrade is a good thing? i'm doing the same right now
[20:17] <nicomachus> nacc: I don't like the new notification pull-down
[20:21] <nacc> nicomachus: hrm, i'll be interested to see if i do :)
[20:23] <nicomachus> nacc: http://i.imgur.com/zxxLSOe.jpg
[20:23] <nacc> nicomachus: interesting, that does seem like a big change
[20:24] <nicomachus> and boring.
[20:24] <nicomachus> white/gray background. Lots of text, no icons.
[20:24] <nicomachus> when I get a lot of notifications it just turns into a paragraph.


[00:13] <IdleOne> strange when I join #ubuntu-forums it forward me to #ubuntuforums the way it should.
[00:30] <Unit193> IdleOne: Unless you are already in the second.
[00:30] <IdleOne> right, then it tells you it is invite only
[00:31] <IdleOne> is there a freenode mode that the user can set to prevent being forwarded. I sorta recall something like that
[00:31] <Unit193> /umode +Q
[00:31] <IdleOne> he probably has that set and it looks like he is being kicked
[20:33] <Unit193> Alright time to hate me again. :P   (Facts) usplash may need deleted/updated, themes has a broken link (freshmeat), tty would be good to drop the last period (linking issues), is !nbs good?  packaging should link to the new package guide at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ ?  guide-#ubuntu-bots-devel should be an alias of/to ubottuguide.  calendar and debtags are dead links.
[21:02] <Myrtti> one at a time?
[21:07] <IdleOne> haha I am so happy that it isn't just me who didn't understand that. I thought for a minute I had a stroke
[21:09] <Unit193> !calendar | 404
[21:11] <IdleOne> !no calendar is <reply> calendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/
[21:11] <IdleOne> fixed
[21:11] <IdleOne> next?
[21:11] <Unit193> !debtags | 404
[21:11] <IdleOne> would help a lot if you also told me the change that needs to be done
[21:11] <Unit193> I don't know on this one.
[21:13] <IdleOne> !no debtags is <reply> debtags is at http://wiki.debian.org/Debtags
[21:14] <Unit193> packaging is <reply>The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring
[21:14] <IdleOne> !no packaging is <reply>The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring
[21:15] <Unit193> !usplash | remove?
[21:16] <IdleOne> Does this one still apply to older versions?
[21:16] <IdleOne> like 10.04-11.04...
[21:17] <Unit193> 10.04 switched to plymouth, was the first to use it.
[21:17] <Unit193> no themes is <reply>Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[21:19] <IdleOne> !no themes is <reply>Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[21:20] <Unit193> (Freecode doesn't seem to have many themes in there, but that's where the tag went)
[21:21] <Unit193> !tty | would be nice to remove last period so users can click the link, no?
[21:21] <IdleOne> that period doesn't break the link for me
[21:21] <Unit193> Alrighty.
[21:21] <Unit193> !nbs | Empty, but is it right?
[21:22] <IdleOne> !no tty is <reply> To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[21:22] <IdleOne> . removed
[21:22] <Unit193> !guide-#ubuntu-bots-devel | and ubottuguide are very close, thoughts?
[21:22] <IdleOne> I don't know about nbs, maybe see if you can track down who does
[21:23] <IdleOne> !ubottuguide
[21:25] <IdleOne> find a better ( more complete) guide and we can edit
[21:26] <Unit193> Well, just the fact that one should be an alias, so if there is a need to edit?
[21:27] <IdleOne> leave it for now, one is channel specific the other is global but they have the same info.
[21:28] <Unit193> Alrighty, running a script to see if there are any more broken links, and throttling it so I don't flood the wiki.