[04:39] <Zosh> what burner should I use?
[04:39] <Zosh> what burner should I use?
[04:39] <koshari> Zosh you dont have aa usb stick?
[04:39] <Apollo2366> Zosh, then download the 9.04 install iso
[04:39] <Zosh> koshari: it's full
[04:39] <Apollo2366> put in the dvd
[04:40] <koshari> Zosh save the info, use the stick and copy it back
[04:40] <JayX> IS THERE  a way in ubuntu to change the tittle of the panel options (Applications, PLacce & System ) ? I want to make then shorter so i can dock more apps to my panel
[04:40] <Apollo2366> and use brasero if it's already installed
[04:40] <Zosh> err it's not..
[04:40] <cornwall> JayX: Right click on the panel and select "Add to Panel". There's a small "menu bar"
[04:40] <hikenboot> hello I setup ubuntu server with a non raided /boot directory and a raided / and /home directory with lvm so its raided and on lvm...On first boot it fails saying there appears to be more than one degraded raid devices...anyone know how to fix?
[04:40] <mbennette68> Hi, is there any documentation on how to set the path (persistently) on ubuntu or in which file the path is stored?
[04:41] <Ademan> usr13: as I understand it midnight commander is a full file manager really, all I want is dumping out a directory structure in this format: http://docs.python.org/distutils/setupscript.html#installing-package-data
[04:41] <hikenboot> i dont think there is a problem with the disks.
[04:41] <Zosh> koshari: hmm I'll try.. :(
[04:41] <hikenboot> I think its an installer bug
[04:41] <cornwall> JayX: er, sorry, it's called "main menu"
[04:41] <JayX> cornwall:  now i know how to add an app, i want more viewing space!
[04:41] <koshari> Zosh you can use unetbootin to copy the iso onto the stick
[04:41] <Apollo2366> Zosh, well there should be something... if there's not, try finding a program in the repos if you can
[04:41] <hikenboot> using the 9.04 server disk
[04:41] <Zosh> Apollo2366: how?
[04:42] <el_americano> thanks cornwall and bastidrazor, I had to remove libempathys, gtks, and commons too, but it eventually reverted. Yahoo still doesn't work, but I'll keep messing with it. Maybe pidgin plus the new server will be the answer for a while, but empathy should be working.
[04:42] <Zosh> I can't use synaptic and sudo apt-get install wont install anything
[04:42] <cornwall> JayX: This isn't adding an app. the "Main Menu" is just a little Ubuntu symbol that will make things much more consolidated
[04:42] <kain> hi all, does anyone know of a site that publishes ubuntu or linux news and stuff like that (like pcworld is for windows)
[04:42] <JayX> cornwall:  i want to change t5he tittle of the thing and make it shoerter eg. i want to change the "applications: to "apps"
[04:42] <Apollo2366> Zosh, hmm that sucks. Well just download the iso for now.
[04:42] <msl> mbennette68, You should have a look at ~/.profile if you want to alter your PATH
[04:43] <bastidrazor> el_americano, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-Yahoo-problem-in-Pidgin-114754.shtml    you could use this deb if !Y is still fubared
[04:43] <n2diy__> JayK right click on the panel, then properties, and you can adjust, umm, pixels I think?
[04:43] <mbennette68> cool thanks for your help :)
[04:43] <ramael> anyone knows if acer aspire 5735Z-423 is compatible with ubuntu????
[04:44] <n2diy__> kain: linuxjournal.com
[04:44] <bucky> hikenboot: is this with dmraid
[04:44] <OpensourceFTW> it should be
[04:44] <the-alchemist> If my system crashes hard, what actions can I take to diagnose the problem after reboot?
[04:44] <JayX> n2diy__:  i want horizontal view, not vertical
[04:44] <hikenboot> i think the installer uses dmraid
[04:44] <hikenboot> its not hardware raid if thats what you mean
[04:45] <n2diy__> JayK right click on the panel, then properties, and you can adjust the location.
[04:45] <Apollo2366> Zosh, and keep asking back here. Someone more knowlegable than I will help you out.
[04:45] <el_americano> bastidrazor: Yes, I had pidgin working with the new server. I was just trying to move to empathy.
[04:45] <overlord> How do I install a deb for i386 architecture on a 64bit system ?
[04:45] <bastidrazor> el_americano, ahh.. cool glad the new server worked
[04:46] <Apollo2366> So does anyone know why my CD/DVD drive won't read discs?
[04:46] <Guest66445> i still doont gei it
[04:46] <HowTo> How do I erase all iptables rules? I only have 2 so far.
[04:47] <JayX> n2diy__:  cornwall Im looking to just change the title of the ubuntu menu  i want the "Applications" to be "App;s"  and "System" to be "Sys" (rename / abbreviate )
[04:47] <bucky> hikenboot: i stumbled thru the install in expert mode and made sure the partitioner accepted my raid type fs but the kicker was it asked me if i wanted the 'most' option for modules in the initrd
[04:47] <ramael> have anyone tried ubuntu on acer aspire 5735Z?
[04:48] <n2diy__> JayK ah, I'm clueless about that, I thought you meant changing stuff on there panel.
[04:48] <Apollo2366> ramael, try looking on youtube for it
[04:48] <arkhalis> terr_: You there?
[04:48] <Guest66445> its dificult for me to run exe. in ubuntu
[04:48] <lwizardl> hi
[04:48] <ramael> I did  it apollo2366, but notting close comes up
[04:48] <media`> Ive never really used any linux other than a gnome desktop.  I installed xubuntu on a laptop I have and when I set it up do I add the regular ubuntu repos
[04:48] <Apollo2366> ramael, Google search?
[04:48] <media`> or are there certain ones for xubuntu
[04:49] <lwizardl> does anyone know of a ftp client that can be set to limit downloads to 30 files
[04:49] <cornwall> JayX: I'm looking in the Gconf-editor and I can't find an entry
[04:49] <JayX> n2diy__ ok thnaksz  and its JayX not JayK :P
[04:49] <Apollo2366> Guest66445, search Synaptic Package Manager for "wine"
[04:49] <Guest66445> thanks
[04:49] <Pici> !wine | Guest66445
[04:50] <JayX> Apollo2366:  what does "wine" really do may I ask? i been hearing about it alot these days
[04:50] <n2diy__> JayX, ok, sorry, don't get old, your eyes play tricks on you, GL.
[04:50] <Apollo2366> JayX, I don't really know a whole lot about it, but I guess it just imitates the Windows environment for software.
[04:50] <lwizardl> JayX, basically allows you to run some windows program on linux
[04:51] <Apollo2366> JayX, it stands for WINE Is Not an Emulator
[04:52] <JayX> lwizardl:  when u say "some" you mean "some"?  can i run/use .exe programs with WINE?
[04:52] <Apollo2366> JayX, yes
[04:52] <cornwall> JayX: however, not all programs will work
[04:52] <bastidrazor> !appdb | JayX
[04:52] <cornwall> JayX: some will work without a hitch, and some will just not ever run
[04:52] <lwizardl> JayX, yes you can, but some program have flaws. example DVDDecrypter
[04:53] <unikon> sebsebseb following the instructions on the softpedia yahoo problem in pidgin fix im using 8.04 LTS wich isnt listed but should be
[04:53] <JayX> Thanks! bastidrazor
[04:53] <andrewjackson> hey i am a complete noob to linux and was wondering if Ubuntu is a good distro to start on for a noob coming from WindowsXp
[04:53] <olskolirc> how do I play wmv in my firefox please?  I need a free codec
[04:53] <bastidrazor> !codecs | olskolirc
[04:54] <arkhalis> terr_: BOO!
[04:54] <cornwall> andrewjackson: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/windows/C/
[04:54] <Dishtroyer> Anyoneknow the error codes for GRUB?
[04:54] <hikenboot> when it drops me to the shell it indicates both md devices are not active cat /proc/mdstat
[04:54] <losher> andrewjackson: Ubuntu is a very good choice for a noob. Make sure you get version 8.04.2 though
[04:55] <Apollo2366> So, anyone have an idea as to why my CD/DVD drive won't mount?
[04:55] <bastidrazor> Dishtroyer, http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html
[04:55] <cornwall> JayX: I've searched around the configurations, I can't find any values that I can edit for that
[04:55] <Geometry> hey all whats a good dock system for ubuntu
[04:55] <bastidrazor> Geometry, AWN or Cairo-Dock
[04:55] <hikenboot> whats your cd not doing Apollo2366
[04:55] <Geometry> which would you preffer?
[04:56] <bastidrazor> Geometry, i prefer and use cairo-dock
[04:56] <JayX> cornwall:  thanks for your help, perhapsthere is a way to change the text to icons? (app's, place, system??)
[04:56] <Geometry> where can i pick that up at?
[04:56] <andrewjackson> ok so if i completely delete my hard drive i could install ubuntu correct?
[04:56] <cornwall> JayX: did you even look at that little applet I told you about?'
[04:56] <arkhalis> check the repos Geometry
[04:56] <bastidrazor> !info cairo-dock
[04:56] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, whenever I insert a CD, nothing happens at all, no error messages. Whenever I try to open Places >> Computer >> CD-RW/DVD+RW Drive it gives an error message: "Unable to mount location." That's it.
[04:57] <JayX> cornwall:  yea playing with it now
[04:57] <jumentous> hi, at what point does a preseed file kick in at? it seems that i can set things like locale on the kernel command line (when remastering the cd) but when included in the preseed file they never get picked up
[04:57] <arkhalis> terr_: msg me
[04:58] <hikenboot> what happens when you umount /dev/cdrom0  and umount /dev/cdrom and sudo eject cdrom?
[04:58] <hikenboot> what kind of cdrom is it?
[04:58] <Geometry> i cant find it in the add move application section
[04:58] <bastidrazor> Geometry, sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
[04:59] <Zosh> how do I add permission to a windows drive?
[04:59] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, it's a DVD with images, music, and text files on it
[04:59] <Zosh> I want to put something to my windows drive
[04:59] <jumentous> last i checked cairo-dock was out of date, there is a repository on the website that you can use for latest version, though i checked a while ago
[05:00] <JayX> bastidrazor:  is there a Database of all app's i can get for Jaunty by using "sudi apt-get install" ? ?
[05:00] <hikenboot> what happens when u do those 3 commands?
[05:00] <shiznebit> JayX: synatpic ?
[05:00] <olskolirc> !w32codecs
[05:00] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, h/o I'll run them
[05:00] <Zosh> Apollo2366: can ya help me out? :p
[05:00] <bastidrazor> JayX, you could look in synaptic at what apps are available based on what repo's you have enabled.
[05:01] <JayX> shiznebit: dont i have to add repo's to synaptic to vieew them
[05:01] <ctmjr> Zosh: tey this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[05:01] <ctmjr> *try
[05:01] <JayX> bastidrazor:  if i dont   have a certain repo installed/enabled can i still get the app using terminal?
[05:01] <Zosh> k thanks
[05:02] <the-alchemist> Is /var/log/syslog the first port of call to diagnose a system crash?
[05:02] <n2diy__> JayX: many repos are in synaptic, but not all of them are enabled.
[05:02] <bastidrazor> JayX, synaptic and apt-get both use the same file for repo's .. so no.
[05:02] <shiznebit> JayX: no you have to add the repository for that certain app
[05:02] <bullgard4> What GNOME program provides the association or mapping of a key pressed to a character sent to the processor?
[05:03] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, sorry for the wait, the problem is actually on my friend's comp
[05:03] <hikenboot> ok so what happens when you run them on  your friends computer
[05:03] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, He's running them now
[05:03] <hikenboot> ok
[05:04] <n2diy__> bullgard4: do you want to remap your keyboard, or just enter extended characters at will?
[05:04] <JayX> is there an online list of all repo's / apps ? ? ? shiznebit: n2diy__ bastidrazor
[05:04] <JohnL> Hey guys, I'm having a problem booting up the Ubuntu live cd, I keep getting errors, could someone help me out?
[05:04] <hikenboot> what he might try at a command line is sudo mount /dev/dvd -t iso9660 /media/cdrom0
[05:04] <n2diy__> JayX, I don't know, google might?
[05:04] <shiznebit> JayX: yea, just google PPA
[05:05] <shiznebit> JayX: yea, just google " PPA ubuntu "
[05:05] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, I'll pass it on, thanks.
[05:05] <JohnL> I keep getting "ACPI: Aborted because broken padding."
[05:05] <JohnL> Anyone have any ideas?
[05:05] <bastidrazor> JayX, be careful.. adding 3rd party repo's can lead to trouble.
[05:06] <JayX> bastidrazor:  thanks will keep an eye out for 3rd party
[05:06] <bullgard4> n2diy__: After dist-upgrade to 9.04 my computer does not react or react wrongly to pressing arrow keys or the 'Alt Gr' key in GNOME. It is ok on the virtual consoles.
[05:06] <Datz> Hi when I run "sudo apt-get update" I get The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found
[05:07] <arkhalis> JohnL: Google is your friend, first response http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968247
[05:07] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, bash:unmount: command not found
[05:07] <hikenboot> not unmount sorry umount
[05:08] <Apollo2366> oh lol k
[05:08] <n2diy__> bullgard4: hmm, don't know, you might want to look around in system>prefrences>keyboard?
[05:08] <JohnL> Gotcha. I've downloaded from so many different providers
[05:08] <JohnL> I suppose I'll have to try again
[05:09] <JayX> does anyoneknow how to tether an ipohoneso it can work with ubuntu?
[05:09] <JayX> iphone so*
[05:09] <BePhantom> hi all, how do i activate the old intrepid update notifier in jaunty?
[05:09] <BePhantom> the one that shows an icon in the deskbar
[05:09] <hikenboot> Apollo2366, what happens when you mount the insert the cdrom  in your system
[05:09] <jumentous> does anyone know how to diagnose why a preseed files isn't being picked up?
[05:10] <hikenboot> sp /mount the insert/insert/
[05:10] <arkhalis> JohnL: be sure to do an md5 checksum on the image of your live cd to save yourself wasting countless cd's
[05:10] <n2diy__> BePhantom: Jaunty does that.
[05:10] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, sudo eject cdrom ejects the tray, as normal.
[05:10] <bullgard4> n2diy__: This opens the 'Keyboard Preferences' dialog. What is the command-line command to open the Keyoard Preferences dialog?
[05:11] <BePhantom> n2diy_ jaunty update will pop up, i want the old intrepid icon
[05:11] <n2diy__> bullgard4: I don't know?
[05:11] <BePhantom> how do i activate it?
[05:11] <hikenboot> can you try the cd in your system or is he remote
[05:11] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, is sp /mount the insert/insert/ litterally what I type?
[05:11] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, he's remote
[05:11] <arkhalis> JohnL: Also, if you keep getting corrupt files, try using a download utility to account for lost packets and whatnot... if that helps check all your cables and router, you may have a bad connection somewhere
[05:11] <hikenboot> sudo mount /dev/cdrom -t iso9660 /media/cdrom0
[05:11] <n2diy__> BePhantom: can you right click on the icon, and change it in prefrences?
[05:12] <donny> does any one know how to uninstall thigs
[05:12] <BePhantom> n2diy_, no
[05:13] <Apollo2366> hikenboot, I think we got the drive mounted somehow
[05:13] <BePhantom> there's some command line thing i have to write but i dont remember exactly what
[05:13] <ZhouYu> donny : what is thigs ?
[05:13] <arkhalis> terr_: WAKE UP... before i slap you with a trout ><
[05:13] <hikenboot> great
[05:13] <hikenboot> good luck
[05:13] <arkhalis> lol
[05:13] <donny> zhouYu_i am trying tu uninstall wow how would i di that
[05:13] <Hobbit`> is there any way to set up some sort of chron job to call a command ever 10 minutes?
[05:13] <Datz> Hi when I run "sudo apt-get update" I get "The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found" How can I fix this?
[05:14] <JayX> lollol @ arkhalis
[05:14] <ctmjr> donny: use wine to uninstall it
[05:14] <ZhouYu> donny : you can simply delete the folder, but if you install it from apt-get. you can simply type "apt-get remove name-of-the-software"
[05:14] <arkhalis> I love my job... beer, karaoke, and ubuntu /love
[05:14] <elky> !ot
[05:14] <sabot_> Is there a way to view a program already running on a remote server through ssh
[05:15] <bullgard4> What GNOME program provides the association or mapping of a key pressed to a character sent to the processor?
[05:15] <petafile> How do I change the root path for grub boot lines?  I can change /boot/grub/menu.lst, but that gets clobbered by update-grub
[05:15] <jumentous> 3rd time lucky, preseeds, automated installs, anyone?
[05:15] <ZhouYu> donny : it's depend on how you install the program. if you use rpm then use the rpm to uninstall, if you compile it yourself then delete the folder.
[05:15] <n2diy_> sabot_: vncviewer.
[05:16] <donny> what would be the best way to install it again ?? i had a error message when i did it last time
[05:16] <andrewjackson> ok guys some people are telling me that Ubuntu teaches bad linux habits is that true?
[05:16] <sabot_> is the vnc server the remote?
[05:16] <unitheory> andrewjackson, absolutely
[05:16] <loof> jayx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNQ6W_yUnII&feature=PlayList&p=F4C97023F46BB521&index=0&playnext=1 to see how to use your iphone in ubuntu as a modem
[05:16] <BePhantom> please anyone? i want to activate the old update notification icon in jaunty, i don't want this annoying pop up window, does anyone know how to do it?
[05:17] <elky> andrewjackson, did they provide examples?
[05:17] <JayX> loof thnaks
[05:17] <Apollo2366> This is kind of annoying, whenever I open an application, the top of the window is always under the top panel on my desktop. What's the problem?
[05:17] <loof> jayx: np
[05:17] <andrewjackson> no they didnt specify
[05:18] <andrewjackson> plus im such a newb not sure if i would know what they were talking about
[05:18] <elky> andrewjackson, then until they specify, don't worry about it. when they do, then come and ask specifically
[05:18] <Apollo2366> andrewjackson, I'm assuming they mean alienating people from the terminal in favor of a gui
[05:18] <n2diy_> andrewjackson: if they don't have specifics, then it is just hearsay.
[05:19] <lucax> is there any program that changes desktop wallpaper and puts a new one from the web, so i dont repeat any wallpaper??
[05:20] <mbostwick> hello, whenever I try to boot up a Firefox addon or start a program in wine that uses opengl it fail's ...I think opengl is not working....can anyone help me with this ?
[05:21] <Dishtroyer> Is there any way to uninstall grub? or at least disable it?
[05:21] <Apollo2366> Dishtroyer, why would you want to do that?
[05:21] <ctmjr> mbostwick: in a terminal type glxinfo | grep render
[05:21] <unitheory> Dishtroyer, if you do that you won't be able to boot from your hard drive
[05:22] <andrewjackson> guys can i use vmplayer to run ubuntu
[05:22] <mbostwick> a lot of: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".: one of: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[05:23] <BePhantom> please help me
[05:23] <linuxguy2009> Guys I cant remember what the default Ubuntu 9.04 window manager is, I installed Mac4Lin and I think I told it to change it by accident but not sure.Cause my compiz wont start.Whats the default window manager?
[05:23] <nztal> andrewjackson, i know how to untar a .tar.gz file from command line.  a .bz2 file, i'd have to google it.  however, in ubuntu i can right click and extract.  i suppose, thats a crutch from memorizing how to extract .bz2 from a console.  i should find me quick reference cheat sheet, save me the trouble of moving that extracted folder :)
[05:23] <unitheory> BePhantom, for what application?
[05:23] <unitheory> linuxguy2009, metacity and/or compiz
[05:23] <BePhantom> i just want the old update alert, the icon that's in the deskbar
[05:23] <linuxguy2009> ah thats right.Thank you.
[05:23] <Dishtroyer> When I connect my hard drive to my external usb case, grub gives me an error 18
[05:23] <ctmjr> mbostwick: did you install any graphic card drivers?
[05:24] <Dishtroyer> It wont boot
[05:24] <mbostwick>  ctmjr: yes nvidia drivers
[05:24] <andrewjackson> nztal: sounds easier
[05:24] <arkhalis> ctmjr, mbostwick: thats what i was gonna say, doesn't sound like you have any drivers installed
[05:24] <BePhantom> how do i enable the old update alert in jaunty? like in intrepid
[05:24] <ecret> i need 20gigs of ram to run a program. Is it possible to use a part of a hard drive to emulate this ram?  Is there a program or keyword that would help?
[05:27] <rizal> hello
[05:27] <unitheory> ecret, linux uses swap as ram if it needs to
[05:27] <rizal> i have problem about crontab
[05:27] <Ahadiel> ecret, That is essentially what swap is, fake ram.
[05:27] <Dishtroyer> I want to boot from my external hard drive but GRUB gives an error 18. What can I do?
[05:27] <arkhalis> ecret: swap is just a term for using a portion of your hard drive as ram... slower but allows for things like 20gb of ram
[05:27] <rizal> anybody
[05:28] <arkhalis> ecret: if you google for linux or ubuntu swap there are plenty of places out on google that tell you how to adjust your swap size
[05:28] <rizal> i have problem about crontab
[05:28] <stan_man_can> I don't want to start a flamewar here, but I"ve heard that Fedora is more cutting edge than Ubuntu. But I've been using fedora for the last day or so and it seems rather clunky graphically
[05:28] <rizal> the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.
[05:28] <WIGGMPk> I am having an issue with Brasero and buring a DVD image.. If I do not have the File/Image Checksum plugins selected, the ISO fails to burn to the DVD... it starts to burn the image and then completes the burn and finalizes the disc in like 5 secs...
[05:28] <ecret> ah ok . thanks i will do that!
[05:28] <stan_man_can> I'm running two video cards, a gtx-260 and a 9500gt, both nvidia, with 4 monitors
[05:28] <Apollo2366> stan_man_can, please stay on-topic
[05:28] <stan_man_can> How nicely will ubuntu handle it?
[05:29] <arkhalis> ecret: good luck, and come back for questions if you have any ^^
[05:29] <ecret> i thought i had to buy a 20 gig ram system . i am very glad. thanks unitheory,ahadiel,arkhalis
[05:29] <ctmjr> !ask|rizal
[05:29] <mbostwick> brb
[05:29] <loof> stan_man_can, : fedora's pretty crap from a multimedia/gamer perspective. you should try ubuntu
[05:29] <JayX> loof that video is a bit usefullll for me, but i need to know the bash file, or how to create n ad-hoc network so i can use my iphone 3g
[05:29] <arkhalis> ecret: i do have to say lol to that.... 4 5gb sticks of ram could be pricey =p
[05:30] <rizal> ok
[05:30] <rizal> i have problem about crontab
[05:30] <rizal> the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.
[05:30] <loof> jayx: try google :p
[05:30] <stan_man_can> loof: I'm rather new to linux and went with Fedora because I use CentOS for my servers, how different are the two?
[05:30] <bucky> hikenboot: sudo dmraid -ay will activate
[05:30] <stan_man_can> loof: I'm not necessarily looking to play games, i'm just looking for something that might be a bit more stable and run a bit smoother than fedora is
[05:31] <Gold_bullet> i have an annoying problem, after installing the D-Link DWA-130 driver via ndiswrapper, Ubuntu keeps locking up when i try to use the driver for more than half an hour, does anyone know whats going wrong?
[05:31] <loof> fedora/centos are basically aimed more at serverside use, ubuntu is more of a desktop os (just in general)/what a lot of development time is spent on
[05:31] <bastidrazor> stan_man_can, burn a liveCD .. if you can get them set up in the LiveCD then you're all set.
[05:32] <losher> WIGGMPk: I can't fix brasero, but I can help you burn a DVD from the cli if you wish...
[05:32] <loof> stan_man_can, : have you had stability issues with fedora? and have you tried compiz in fedora?
[05:32] <WIGGMPk> losher: with growisofs?
[05:33] <losher> WIGGMPk: exactly!
[05:33] <WIGGMPk> losher: isnt Brasero using the same thing? just a front end?
[05:33] <mbostwick1> ok looking through some logs I found this http://pastebin.com/m38fac638
[05:33] <stan_man_can> loof: what about differences in how things are done, as in fedora/centos using yum, and ubuntu using aptitude, is it comparing apples to oranges...two completley different things... or is it comparing a granny smith to a macintosh apple... same thing just different name
[05:33] <arkhalis> gold_bullet: is the dwa-130 internal or external?
[05:33]  * Gold_bullet waits
[05:33] <Gold_bullet> external usb drive
[05:33] <bullgard4> What GNOME program determines the keyboard layout?
[05:33] <nellmathew> is there an app in gnome that i can use to pick up hex/RGB of colors under the cursor?
[05:34] <WIGGMPk> losher: its not that it doesnt 'work', its just annoying to have to wait that extra 30secs to create the file checksum, then to wait the 10mins for the image checksum to complete at the end is retarded
[05:34] <ecret> arkhalis: yeah...was going to also have to get a new mb/cpu too as mine just holds two sticks. i like linux
[05:34] <loof> stan_man_can, : depends on if you consider yum vs aptitude to be like comparing apples to oranges or comparing different types of apples :P
[05:34] <deagle> hello!
[05:34] <JayX> nellmathew:  0_o ? what do u want to do?
[05:34] <mikepark> BePhantom: was your question answered?
[05:34] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: Hmm... perhaps a power or heat issue? i haven't the slightest
[05:34] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, the d-link works fine for 30 minutes or a little bit more, but after that a severe system lockdown
[05:34] <andrewjackson> anyone know where i can get a vmware image of ubuntu to run in vmplayer
[05:34] <BePhantom> mikepark, no
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> nellmathew:   many 'color chooser' dialogs in many apps have a 'eyedropper' that lets you do that.
[05:34] <andrewjackson> and yes i already googled
[05:34] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: have you used it on a windows system for longer than 30 mins?
[05:34] <mikepark> BePhantom: gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
[05:34] <deagle> i'm on ircII, can anyone see this?
[05:35] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, yes, hours on end
[05:35] <losher> WIGGMPk: you're preaching to the converted.... :-)
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> deagle:  yes.
[05:35] <nellmathew> JayX, yeah what he said, i wanted an eyedropper =X lol
[05:35] <deagle> :D thanks!
[05:35] <arkhalis> ecret: glad we could help you save money then
[05:35] <nellmathew> thanks Dr_Willis
[05:35] <bastidrazor> andrewjackson, download the iso and install from that
[05:35] <BePhantom> mikepark, will that enable the old intrepid like update alert icon?
[05:35] <andrewjackson> ok
[05:35] <loof> stan_man_can, : if you consider it to be comparing apples to oranges, then ubuntu is pretty different from fedora, if you consider it like comparing types of apples, then it's not really that different. i'd say look at some videos of ubuntu on youtube and see if what they show are more along the lines of what you're looking for in an OS
[05:35] <WIGGMPk> losher: dont follow ya..? the converted AKA CLI?
[05:35] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis,  the problem arose after i installed the latest Nvidea driver for my chipset
[05:35] <deagle> does anyone know how I can restart my window manager from outside (tty) without restarting GDM (i'm running openbox and I need to do openbox --restart)
[05:36] <mikepark> BePhantom: it should
[05:36] <losher> WIGGMPk: I just meant that there's no point complaining to me, because I completely agree with you. You could file a bug report, I suppose...
[05:36] <deagle> i did export DISPLAY=:0.0 and tried it but got nothing :(
[05:36] <BePhantom> mikepark, thank you!
[05:36] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: unfortunately i haven't the slightest clue why that would happen >< other than an overheating issue but for an external drive that seems rediculous...
[05:36] <Gnea> deagle: from a console?
[05:36] <deagle> yep
[05:36] <Gnea> don't think that'll work
[05:36] <WIGGMPk> losher: and have them not fix it lol.. i heard some things about the debian team forking off of the cdrecord project and not doing as well because of some dispute.. however I also hear about the ubuntu burning team changing things...
[05:37] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, perhaps an incompalability issue with linux for my modle of d-link?
[05:37] <WIGGMPk> losher: just sucks the user's got caught up in some drama
[05:37] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: Hmm, the chipset would make sense with overheating but i doubt thats linked to the dwa-130
[05:37] <Gnea> you could start the X session with just an xterm and run from there
[05:37] <mikepark> BePhantom: you're welcome
[05:37] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, well, the usb ports are bart of my chipset
[05:37] <Gold_bullet> *part
[05:37] <rizal> the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.
[05:37] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: naa, if it's the wireless key i am thinking of, little black and gray one
[05:37] <WIGGMPk> losher: honestly they should of stayed with nautilus-cd-create or whatever.. but this is getting off topic lol.. thanks for the thoughts.. ill just use growisofs for now
[05:37] <Gold_bullet> yes
[05:37] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, yah, its that one
[05:38] <deagle> Gnea: i just don't want to have the programs running die on me :( is there any way to prevent that?
[05:38] <Gnea> deagle: otherwise you'd need to allow X to receive remote requests, which it doesn't by default unless you've changed that behavior via gdm's config
[05:38] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: I have the same one somewhere, used to use it for adhoc networking lol (don't ask)
[05:38] <Gnea> deagle: yes, run e16 or e17
[05:38] <deagle> wussat?
[05:38] <Dishtroyer> Wake  me when someone answers my question...
[05:38] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, mine sucks...badly
[05:38] <Gnea> !e17
[05:39] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: try reinstalling it using ndiswrapper... or try charging a phone or something in the same usb port for some time
[05:39] <deagle> Gnea: oic
[05:39] <losher> WIGGMPk: the sad truth is, linux burning tools are inferior, like most of its multimedia stuff...
[05:39] <Gnea> deagle: e16, at the very least, allows you to restart the WM if it crashes (it self-heals)
[05:39] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, phone? how will this help?
[05:39] <Gnea> so you never lose any running app
[05:39] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: that will determine if it's the usb port or the wireless key... other than that perhaps someone else in here can help you more? try asking again
[05:39] <drmrhorse_> i broke my jackalope. after i updated compiz and a few other things today, my desktop fails to load. i get to the login screen, login, and the screen disappears and comes back.  tried restarting x, rebooting, recovery mode with xfix. starting a console session then doing startx gets me a desktop with no sound. any ideas?
[05:39] <deagle> i like openbox better :$
[05:39] <roxan> lshw -C disk is not showing *disk-2: but only *disk-0: and *disk-1:
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Gnea:  it had to have that feature... due to how often it crashed.. :)
[05:39] <Gnea> it'll popup a window and say "oh hai! i just crashed! press F1 to restart!"
[05:39] <WIGGMPk> losher: almost brings a tear to my eye... linux... inferior.... the same sentence.... =*(
[05:40] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: Like an ipod or a phone... something that draws power from the usb ports
[05:40] <Gnea> Dr_Willis: hehe yeah, now it's like, rock-solid
[05:40] <ctmjr> Dr_Willis: so true
[05:40] <lacrymology> is there a way to make btlaunchmany run up to, say, 3 downloads at a time?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Gnea:  i try it every so often... then leave it for another year.
[05:40] <rameshwor> deagle: openbox is a desktop ? ..
[05:40] <losher> WIGGMPk: I know, but the first step to solving a problem is to acknowledge it... :-)
[05:40] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, um, i dont have any thing like that... i only have a broken usb-led thing
[05:40] <deagle> rameshwor: a window manager
[05:40] <Gnea> Dr_Willis: i did that too for a couple of years... picked e17 back up late last year, haven't looked back since
[05:41] <rameshwor> deagle: so not a complete one like kde, gnome .. ??
[05:41] <justin`> anyone know any popular reasons internet connections don't work on ubuntu. My wireless internet disconnects every 5 seconds and it's so annoying
[05:41] <loof> gnea: enlightenment???
[05:41] <Gnea> loof: yes.
[05:41] <loof> gnea: people still use that?? =S
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Enlightnment is slowly growing into  a 'desktop' :)
[05:41] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, i do have a game controller that draws power from the usb ports tho, and the flow is always constant
[05:41] <deagle> rameshwor: if by complete you mean overbloated windows clone, then no... it's not "complete"
[05:41] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: hmm... dunno then >< I'm at a loss and I don't want to tell you to go buy a new wireless key and find out it's just your usb ports and you wasted money y'know?
[05:41] <philsf> my firefox is hanging pretty often. Is anyone here able to help me with a backtrace I got? http://pastebin.com/f42bbabd4
[05:42] <rameshwor> deagle: i mean is it in the same group of kde,gnome,xfce.. ?
[05:42] <arkhalis> Try that perhaps?
[05:42] <Gnea> loof: heh, it's the only one that has been crafted so well as to only require 100mhz and 64mb of ram anymore ;) well, other than fvwm2, fvwm95 and, uh, twm :) windowmaker might get away....
[05:42] <losher> andrewjackson: I see images at http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/. Perhaps you forgot to google?
[05:42] <loof> philsf: why not build a new version? 3.5 is like twice the speed of 3.10
[05:42] <deagle> rameshwor: i'm not jaded... just prefer to individually pick the apps I like that are more efficient, like rox-filer, openbox, etc...
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> rameshwor:  Enlightment is not as complete as XFCE from what i used of it..
[05:42] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, hmm....money....im 14...thats expensive XD
[05:42] <deagle> Gnea: and openbox! :D
[05:42] <loof> gnea: heh, true that, i guess =D
[05:42] <arkhalis> Gold_bullet: though that won't answer your question for sure but it will eliminate one possibility it's not the power draw on your usb ports
[05:42] <deagle> Gnea: built from straight C
[05:43] <arkhalis> AFK --
[05:43] <Gnea> deagle: that doesn't mean it runs efficiently on an original pentium or 486 :) it might...
[05:43] <Gold_bullet> arkhalis, im still thinking that the driver is incompatible with Ubuntu, because it works perfectly in windows
[05:43] <deagle> Gnea: it runs awesome on my PIII :P
[05:43] <Gnea> deagle: heh
[05:43] <philsf> loof, Isn't there a package in jaunty?
[05:43] <deagle> untill I play too much with the menu settings :S
[05:43] <unitheory> vintage single-core processors?
[05:44] <deagle> \O/ ftw!
[05:44] <Arkhalis|AFK> Gold_bullet: I was trying to figure out if it was your nvidia update or the wireless key that was the issue
[05:44] <deagle> barely needs a heatsink, much less a fah
[05:44] <deagle> *fan
[05:44] <Gnea> i like booting up jaunty with e17 on my sempron - time to gdm login: less than 20 seconds.  time to full desktop: 1 second.
[05:44] <loof> philsf, : i assumed you were using that. if not, then yeah, update from a package =S
[05:45] <philsf> loof, I'm using firefox 3.0, the stable version
[05:45] <Gold_bullet> Arkhalis|AFK, well, on windows this driver causes alot of problems...
[05:45] <WIGGMPk> Anyone use Pidgin along with MySpace IM? My account never connects
[05:45] <deagle> Gnea: speaking of which, where do I tell X to autoload my background? .xinitrc won't do the trick
[05:45] <Gold_bullet> Arkhalis|AFK, like a full crash of the system
[05:45] <ziroday> WIGGMPk: #pidgin might be helpful, that and triple checking your login details
[05:45] <Gnea> deagle: i'm not sure with openbox... maybe try #openbox?
[05:46] <deagle> Gnea: openbox doesn't handle backgrounds
[05:46] <Gnea> deagle: have you tried Xsetroot?
[05:46] <deagle> hell, it barely gives you a menu to launch stuff from! :D
[05:46] <WIGGMPk> ziroday: ill check them out, past the login credentials
[05:46] <Arkhalis|AFK> Gold_bullet: afk for a few, try asking others in the channel.. I really have no idea =p sorry
[05:46] <deagle> Gnea: oh yeah, it's just I have to do it manually when I log in since .xinitrc wont play nice
[05:47] <Gold_bullet> ok then Arkhalis|AFK
[05:47]  * Gold_bullet attempts to fix the problem
[05:47] <ziroday> deagle: if you are using openbox then add the command to your openbox startup file
[05:47] <deagle> Gnea: I guess my real question is: where does ubuntu store info to launch apps from @ startup?
[05:47] <Gnea> deagle: iirc, it should go like this:  line1: #!/bin/sh  line2: Xsetroot -s /path/to/the/pic.jpg  line3: openbox
[05:47] <deagle> ziroday: there's such a thing? o_O
[05:47] <Gnea> deagle: that's dependent on the desktop manager
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> deagle:  depends on the desktop. :) kde and gmome both support session management, and the autostart directory
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> !autostart
[05:48] <deagle> but i don't have a desktop manager :P
[05:48] <Gnea> deagle: so gnome/metacity carries that in ~/.gconf and ~/.gnome
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> deagle:   teres always making your own .xinitrc or some other methods like we used years ago
[05:48] <Gnea> well then, you have to make them launch in the background in .xinitrc before launching your wm :)
[05:48] <ziroday> deagle: yes, http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Autostart and #openbox on irc.oftc.net
[05:49] <loof> philsf, : just saying you can get much newer versions either from source or from debs: ie: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html
[05:49] <deagle> ziroday: ooooh thank you!
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Openbox has some sort of autostart dir/feature/script i recall also
[05:49] <Gnea> dangit, this soundcard is shot :(
[05:49] <ziroday> deagle: have fun
[05:49] <deagle> wait wait dont say stuff people! i need that URL
[05:49] <deagle> :P
[05:49] <Gnea> deagle: pm it to yourself
[05:49] <deagle> thanks! :D
[05:49] <WIGGMPk> Ok, I just finished burning a DVD image with Brasero (that completed successfully) and now my DVD drive with not mount blank disc's or software discs.. Please help.../
[05:49] <deagle> Gnea: i'm still on ircII :S
[05:50] <losher> WIGGMPk: power cycle it...
[05:50] <deagle> bleh, might as well restart X
[05:50] <Gnea> deagle: lol i use irssi, used ircII for years
[05:50] <deagle> how do i scroll up?
[05:50] <deagle> :S
[05:50] <n2diy_> deagle, can't you scroll up, to stop the auto scrolling?
[05:50] <Gnea> pageup?
[05:50] <deagle> nope
[05:50] <n2diy_> up arrow?
[05:50] <deagle> nope
[05:50] <deagle> scrolls to past comments
[05:50] <WIGGMPk> losher: I have "other" things running.. and thats not a solution.. it happens frequently..
[05:51] <deagle> pageup gives this: ~
[05:51] <WIGGMPk> losher: im encoding video's which take a long time... and I have a lot of DVD's to burn
[05:51] <Gnea> you'll either need a decent script or just use irssi
[05:51] <rameshwor> hey, isn't opening the iso with winzip,winrar and then burning the unzipped files  to cd  the same as  burning the iso from nero or...      i did the first one but xubuntu live cd didn't boot..
[05:51] <n2diy_> deagle: still need the url?
[05:51] <Gnea> rameshwor: no
[05:51] <ziroday> rameshwor: you have been told before, no.
[05:52] <rameshwor> ziroday: yes. i was told to check md5...
[05:52] <``y7> guys, it looks like i have to say bye to ubuntu. basically when i run ubuntu as my router, it screws up my ONT to where I have to reset the ONT (verizon fios thing). debian doesn't have this issue, nor do any other standard routers, such as linksys or actiontec. unless anybody has any additional ideas on how to fix this...??? :(
[05:52]  * Arkhalis|AFK beats terr_ over the head -- REPEATEDLY -- with a very veRY VERY small trout (I suck at fishing)
[05:52] <ziroday> rameshwor: burn the livecd via the iso image, do not uncompress it and burn the files.
[05:52] <Gnea> ``y7: are you using ubuntu or ubuntu-server?
[05:52] <losher> WIGGMPk: I understand. But if it's a firmware bug in your burner...
[05:53] <``y7> ubuntu
[05:53] <Gnea> why?
[05:53] <Arkhalis> terr_: wakie wakie
[05:53] <Gnea> ubuntu-server is made for running as a router
[05:53] <``y7> Gnea: to be more exact: ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:53] <WIGGMPk> losher: never happend in Intrepid or XP/Vista..
[05:53] <``y7> Gnea, because i'm using the computer as a desktop/server
[05:53] <WIGGMPk> losher: which leads me to believe its an ubuntu bug
[05:53] <``y7> Gnea: and because i'm a n00by to linux
[05:54] <deagle> brb
[05:54] <Gnea> ``y7: then you probably need to get networkmanager/wicd to have some sort of exception... i don't have vzw fios so not sure how that works
[05:54] <losher> WIGGMPk: Good that it's not hardware. A brasero bug?
[05:54] <deagle> yey! GUI :D
[05:54] <deagle> tty's scare me :S
[05:54] <deagle> you know... i'll give e17 another try :P
[05:54] <``y7> Gnea: any reasons to go to ubuntu-server over debian? i'm guessing ubuntu-server takes away some features that ubuntu already has, but i don't really know. i guess i'll look into it
[05:55] <WIGGMPk> losher: thats a long shot i think... could brasero effectively disable my dvd drive...? for the system...? maybe a udev problem? somehow
[05:55] <unitheory> deagle, you could try out opengeu
[05:55] <deagle> wussat?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> google is our friend. :)
[05:55] <unitheory> deagle, ubuntu-based distro using e17 as the default desktop
[05:55] <deagle> WIGGMPk: if it's any condolence, i've had to disable brasero completely
[05:55] <deagle> oic
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> E17 - the windowmanger/desktop that reinvents its self more then... err... hmm..
[05:56] <Gnea> ``y7: i use ubuntu-server because it updates more often than debian. it's essentially the same as debian, only more ubuntu-ized.  network setup uses the standard /etc/network/interfaces
[05:56] <losher> WIGGMPk: can you eject the drive from software?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> I cant think of anything tht does it MORE then E17
[05:56] <deagle> yep
[05:56] <deagle> losher: eject :D
[05:56] <Gnea> ``y7: BUT, you can make the desktop ubuntu use it too
[05:56] <WIGGMPk> deagle: actually that just depresses me even more... it seems like Ubuntu sacrificed too much in the hopes of booting faster..
[05:56] <ubuntu> crossover
[05:56] <harikapaddu> can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall
[05:56] <Gnea> ``y7: just start editting the interfaces file and network manager will freak out and go "oh, it's editted, so i'll auto-fail"
[05:56] <deagle> Dr_Willis: you must ADORE lmgtfy.com right? :D
[05:56] <WIGGMPk> losher: from software? the eject button works... lemme try from nautilus
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> deagle:  never been there.. that i rember...
[05:57] <loof> ``y7, : http://www.slavepits.com/2009/06/ditching-verizon-fios-actiontec-router.html ?? check if they did anything different
[05:57] <deagle> losher: type in eject in command line
[05:57] <Gnea> ``y7: but, like i also said, networkmanager and wicd have the ability to add exceptions
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> deagle:  but i got a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head for you.. :P
[05:57] <Gnea> ``y7: as in, they can run a script for you if you have a special connection
[05:57] <WIGGMPk> deagle: losher: says, "unable to find or open device"
[05:57] <deagle> :S
[05:58] <DirectorBonesy> What is ubuntu's official usage stance on the propietary ATi drivers?
[05:58] <deagle> they SUCK!
[05:58] <deagle> :D
[05:58] <deagle> j/k idk
[05:58] <losher> WIGGMPk: ok, open a terminal and try 'sudo eject cdrom' (you only have one cdrom, right?)
[05:58] <DirectorBonesy> Well, by official I mean how easily are they loaded.
[05:59] <DirectorBonesy> Since, Arch seems determined to make my life annoying in that regard. :/
[05:59] <n2diy_> DirectorBonesy: don't know, Ubuntu officials don't hang out here, to my knowledge? But if you can get it to work, who would care?
[05:59] <deagle> one of the reasons I picked nVIDIA over ATI was due to  their linux friendliness
[05:59] <WIGGMPk> losher: I have 2.. but only 1 has power to it right now
[05:59] <unitheory> DirectorBonesy, many proprietary driver can be loaded from system > administration > hardware drivers
[05:59] <WIGGMPk> losher: it just returns with nothing....
[06:00] <Apollo2366> This is kind of annoying. Whenever I start an application, the top of the window always appears underneath the top panel on the desktop. Help?
[06:00] <losher> WIGGMPk: what kind of drive is it? internal? sata? ide?
[06:00] <harikapaddu> can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Apollo2366:  using the ubuntu netbook remix?
[06:00] <Apollo2366> No, regular desktop ver
[06:01] <WIGGMPk> losher: internal sata LG GSA-T50L (I have searched online for this and found not similar posts)
[06:01] <WIGGMPk> losher: its a laptop..
[06:01] <harikapaddu> can any one help me with "Port Forwarding in Ubuntu?
[06:01] <Apollo2366> 8.10 btw
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Apollo2366:  Odd.. You can hold down the alt-key and  alt-click on  wndow anywhere to drag it down...
[06:02] <losher> WIGGMPk: type 'df -h' . Is there a line for the cdrom?
[06:02] <Apollo2366> Dr_Willis, Cool, didn't know that. That's a bit easier than resizing it
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Apollo2366:  i got a tool for windows called 'kde-resizer.exe' tht adds that feature to windows also. :P
[06:02] <WIGGMPk> losher: no
[06:02] <harikapaddu> can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall
[06:03] <Apollo2366> Dr_Willis, Doesn't work with GNOME does it?
[06:03] <unitheory> Dr_Willis, i thought windows had that feature ootb?
[06:03] <linuxguy2009> Where are the startup apps kept track of in 9.04? I dont see a sessions under admin menu. I think thats where it used to be.
[06:03] <unitheory> Apollo2366, yes it does
[06:03] <WIGGMPk> harikapaddu: install gUFW
[06:03] <losher> WIGGMPk: and finally, type dmesg|egrep sr0    Are there any messages?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> unitheory:  not the  alt-click/drag  from anywhere.. that ive ever seen.
[06:03] <unitheory> Dr_Willis, maybe you're right. i haven't used windows in a long time
[06:03] <JayX> loofhow do i create an ad-hoc for ubuntu?
[06:03] <WIGGMPk> losher: yes, not sure what im looking for but yes..
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Apollo2366:  its a X standard feture.. works with most every desktop in linux ive seen.. some can turn it off..   some games  canm mess up with it..
[06:04] <JayX> how do i create an add-hoc network **
[06:04] <Apollo2366> unitheory, is it in the repos? Wait, why is... oh. Wait... KDE on Windows?
[06:04] <deagle> wicd
[06:04] <deagle> JayX: makes it simple ;)
[06:04] <Apollo2366> I've never heard of that
[06:04] <stoobs76> so, i wanna run ubuntu, and vista, can someone help me?
[06:04] <saiki> how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner..
[06:04] <unitheory> linuxguy2009, it's been renamed startup applications
[06:04] <losher> WIGGMPk: ok, wanna paste the lines to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:04] <WIGGMPk> losher: getting there now
[06:04] <JayX> deagle:  ok, may i get assitance in creating an ad-hoc in ubntu
[06:04] <Apollo2366> Dr_Willis, are you running KDE on Windows?
[06:04] <linuxguy2009> Ah Im stupid wrong menu.Thanks
[06:05] <harikapaddu> can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall
[06:05] <unitheory> Apollo2366, is what in the repos?
[06:05] <safag> hi has anyone tried google earth ?
[06:05] <WIGGMPk> losher: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2201235c
[06:05] <loof> stoobs76, : there are guides to dualbooting vista and ubuntu on google
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Apollo2366:  no.. the name of the tool for windows is called 'kde-resizer.exe' nothing to do with kde.. other then a missleading name. :)
[06:05] <deagle> JayX: o_O? i meant look up WICD it's an app that lets you do that
[06:05] <Arkhalis> stoobs76: Try searching google for directions on how to dual boot...
[06:05] <saiki> how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner.. so an upgrade is really needed
[06:05] <harikapaddu> can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall
[06:05] <Arkhalis> loof: lol, nice
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Apollo2366:  ebcause the writer added a 'kde feature ' (he thoght) to windows
[06:05] <Apollo2366> unitheory, I was going to ask about that resizer tool, but I was mislead by the name
[06:05] <JayX> deagle:  ohh my bad :P
[06:05] <deagle> lol
[06:05] <loof> Arkhalis, : well, it's true =S
[06:06] <stoobs76> im brand new to linux, my friend suggested it, and no, i dont even know what KDE is
[06:06] <Arkhalis> loof: I just laughed cause we basically said the same thing
[06:06] <safag> my google earth crashes everytime i open it after seeing earth in ubuntu 9.04
[06:06] <WIGGMPk> harikapaddu: install gUFW (GUI for Uncomplicated Firewall) its easy to configure and straight forward.. but dont keep asking the same question over and over.. people will answer if they see and know the answer
[06:06] <scales11> stoobs76: kde is a desktop manager, it controls how windows look and where they are placed
[06:06] <losher> WIGGMPk: I see an i/o error, but nothing really significant.  I was able to duplicate the crash using ubuntu-based UltimateEdition. The only way I can get to command prompt is via the "recovery mode" from the grub menu. But, when choosing shell, it asks for maintenance password. Nothing I put in there takes. How do I get past that password? It doesn't take the normal sudo password.
[06:07] <scales11> unitheory: no more?
[06:08] <loof> stoobs: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=dual%20booting%20vista%20and%20ubuntu lolol =D
[06:08] <dsdeiz_> when you do 'update-alternatives --config" what does '+' and '*' mean?
[06:08] <harikapaddu> How to install  gUFW (GUI for Uncomplicated Firewall) in Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> !find gufw
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> !info gufw
[06:09] <losher> WIGGMPk: see if you can get status:  sudo hdparm -i /dev/cdrom
[06:09] <unitheory> scales11, i put e17 on a minimal installation once.
[06:09] <WIGGMPk> harikapaddu: "sudo apt-get install gufw"
[06:09] <loof> usingartistxlive, : the maintenance password is the root password not your user password
[06:09] <dsdeiz_> anyone?
[06:09] <scales11> unitheory: e17 is still in beta. i dunno how stable it is..i have a netbook and was trying to go with a slim install.  i tried crunchbang, it was ok...
[06:09] <WIGGMPk> losher: /dev/cdrom: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: No message of desired type
[06:10] <stoobs76> loof: that was pretty funny
[06:10] <usingartistxlive> loof, there is no root password enabled with Ubuntu. So, no matter what I put in there, even using other passwords I may have used in the past, even putting "root" "toor" "admin" and leaving it blank do not work.
[06:10] <loof> stoobs76, : heheheheh =]
[06:10] <unitheory> scales11, right. i run xubuntu on my eee pc.
[06:10] <dsdeiz_> when you do 'update-alternatives --config" what does '+' and '*' mean?
[06:10] <WIGGMPk> !root > usingartistxlive
[06:10] <loof> usingartistxlive, : yeah you have to enable the root account. you did do that, right? =S
[06:11] <losher> WIGGMPk: sorry, I'm out of ideas at this point. The system seems to have forgotten all about your cdrom...
[06:11] <scales11> unitheory: which eee? why xubuntu? i didnt think it really was much lighter than plain ubuntu......
[06:11] <saiki> !kooka
[06:11] <WIGGMPk> losher: well that sucks.... lol
[06:11] <hobbet1> i have intreped is there a program to see who is on my home network and what they are doing?
[06:11] <jared__> i love you guy
[06:11] <jared__> s
[06:11] <saiki> hobbet1, why not use your own router's?
[06:12] <WIGGMPk> losher: is there a command to make udev activate? or for the sata ports to be scanned again?
[06:12] <scales11> unitheory: i was thinking about lxde with a minimal install, but still so much to set up!
[06:12] <jared__> L
[06:12] <jared__> O
[06:12] <jared__> V
[06:12] <jared__> E
[06:12] <FloodBot1> jared__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:12] <unitheory> scales11, 701 surf. xfce is lighter and has lighter apps than gnome.  e17 probably has the most "bang for the buck" in my opinion
[06:12] <hobbet1> i am not sure what you are telling me saiki?
[06:12] <the-alchemist> Yeah, paste your loveletter into the pastebin :P
[06:12] <saiki> hobbet1, what router do you have?
[06:12] <losher> WIGGMPk: there is 'sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart' but I can't guarantee it won't interrupt your long running jobs. I bet your hard drive is sata too, right?
[06:12] <Arkhalis> rofl
[06:12] <scales11> unitheory: e17, how stable is it though
[06:13] <hobbet1> i have an airlink, but i have a belkin also available
[06:13] <WIGGMPk> losher: both of them... on a raid0
[06:13] <unitheory> scales11, pretty stable.  it never crashed randomly
[06:13] <WIGGMPk> losher: well im gonna roll the dice...
[06:13] <saiki> try these urls: http://<IP_ADDRESS>  http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:13] <jeeves_moss> how can I fix the sound on my Acer Aspire One D115 laptop?  I can't figure it out
[06:13]  * WIGGMPk crosses his fingers
[06:14] <unitheory> scales11, only slightly more stable than windows ;]
[06:14] <saiki> how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner.. so an upgrade is really needed
[06:14] <usingartistxlive> ubottu, am reading your msg, and looking at the site. I can't get in to do any editing. I know what to try, but I can't even boot into command prompt without that maintenance password.
[06:14] <entropy> I have completed Appendix A of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 and it worked. I am now trying Appendix D, and I did complete Appendix D, audio does show within Playback of pavucontrol, however I have no option to switch the stream to an equalizer, and when I run alsamixer, I get this http://pastebin.ca/1470742 - which didn't happen until I modified the .asoundrc verbatim,...
[06:14] <entropy> ...uncommenting the default EQ setting (where you actually set the levels). Help?
[06:14] <scales11> unitheory: haha
[06:14] <usingartistxlive> loof, I can't get in, to enable root password
[06:15] <WIGGMPk> usingartistxlive: why do you need to enable root? just use sudo
[06:15] <WIGGMPk> losher: nothing... thanks for troubleshooting with me..
[06:15] <losher> WIGGMPk: sorry I couldn't solve it...
[06:16] <unitheory> scales11, with a minimal install the good thing is you can try out a bunch of desktop environments and remove them if you don't like them and you control what's installed
[06:16] <WIGGMPk> losher: its ok..
[06:16] <usingartistxlive> WIGGMPk, I can't boot into X, it crashed to jibberish. I can't boot into anywhere except up to where that pswd is required.
[06:16] <WIGGMPk> usingartistxlive: in the recovery console? have you tried using a livecd?
[06:17] <losher> usingartistxlive: can you boot a live-cd ?
[06:17]  * WIGGMPk rawr /flex
[06:17] <usingartistxlive> WIGGMPk, yes, I am on a live DVD ubuntu-based ArtistX, on the crashed machine.
[06:17] <Arkhalis> terr_ : Wake up ya lazy bum!
[06:18] <WIGGMPk> usingartistxlive: so mount your / and edit the xorg.conf file (paste the contents on pastebin)
[06:18] <scales11> unitheory: yeah i know but i still have to go into every detail
[06:18] <scales11> unitheory: plus i have tried them all :)
[06:18] <drmrhorse_> i broke my jackalope. after i updated compiz and a few other things today, my desktop fails to load. i get to the login screen, login, and the screen disappears and comes back.  tried restarting x, rebooting, recovery mode with xfix. starting a console session then doing startx gets me a desktop with no sound. any ideas?
[06:18] <WIGGMPk> usingartistxlive: are you comfortable with the command line? show me what "sudo fdisk -l" tells you on pastebin
[06:19] <usingartistxlive> WIGGMPk, okay, will check, back in a bit I hope....
[06:19] <unitheory> scales11, all of them? theres what like 7-10 desktop environments?
[06:19] <loof> usingartistxlive, : you could try ALT+PRINTSCREEN+RSEIUOR
[06:19] <ibmman> what do you use to extrat .rar files in ubuntu
[06:19] <scales11> :)
[06:19] <WIGGMPk> ibmman: archive manager... just double click on it
[06:19] <scales11> unitheory: i have been messing with arch, and ubuntu for a while now
[06:19] <jeeves_moss> ok, sound with my 82801G audio controller, I can't get it to work.  how do I fix it?
[06:19] <losher> ibmman: use 'unrar'
[06:19] <scales11> unitheory: i just cant settle on one though
[06:19] <WIGGMPk> ibmman: losher oops thats right..
[06:20] <drmrhorse_> for unrar you need ubuntu-restricted-extras, no?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[06:20] <scales11> unitheory: ubuntu has its options and settings a little spread out, harder to find in a whim
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> drmrhorse_:  not that i am aware of.
[06:20] <drmrhorse_> hmm
[06:20] <ktne> hello
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> drmrhorse_:  it might be included in that (the restricted-extras is a meta-packages)
[06:20] <ktne> i'm trying to install firefox 3.5beta on ubuntu
[06:20] <voss> drmrhorse, try rolling back to a previous kernel in grub
[06:20] <drmrhorse_> thats what im thinking
[06:20] <ktne> i downloaded the .bz2 file and unpacked it in /tmp
[06:21] <WIGGMPk> Dr_Willis: that is awesome....!!!
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> WIGGMPk:  what is?
[06:21] <scales11> unitheory: night
[06:21] <unitheory> scales11, i hear good things about arch but haven't tried it
[06:21] <unitheory> scales11, peace
[06:21] <ktne> but when i try to run ./firefox, i get an error: ./run-mozilla.sh: 399: ./firefox-bin: not found , but ./firefox-bin is right there, in the same directory
[06:21] <ktne> any idea?
[06:21] <WIGGMPk> Dr_Willis: nvm... im having a converstation with my self i think... IE: (the restricted-extras is a meta-packages).... that is awesome...!
[06:22] <losher> ktne: is it executable?
[06:22] <SyphonSilent> hey guys
[06:22] <SyphonSilent> how do I open an rpm file?
[06:22] <Arkhalis> WIGGMPk: Talking to yourself can be good sometimes
[06:22] <WIGGMPk> Dr_Willis: as in, its an awesome meta-package... yea just nvm
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> WIGGMPk:  meta-packages are veyr common in the Ubuntu packages. :) like 'ubuntu-desktop' and 'kubuntu-desktop'
[06:22] <loof> usingartistxlive, : actually, that should be ALT+PRINTSCREEN+R (takes back keyboard control if X is holding keyboard/mouse. you can then ctrl-alt-f1 to a terminal, login, enable the root account, and fix your install
[06:22] <scales11> unitheory: arch is nice but lots of setup,  and then when i think i am all set, more setup! pacman is decent though, but autocomplete is slower than ubuntu, much slower,
[06:22] <dsdeiz_> !alien
[06:22] <drmrhorse_> voss: i will try this but the kernel didnt update
[06:22] <scales11> unitheory: bye for now
[06:22] <ktne> losher: yes it is executable, green in the console
[06:22] <WIGGMPk> Arkhalis: i suppose it could.. but im completing other people sentences...
[06:22] <ramas> hello, first time to join the support chat
[06:22] <WIGGMPk> Dr_Willis: oh I know... im just completing your sentence with my own..
[06:22] <SyphonSilent> Does anyone use the Prozilla download accelerator?
[06:23] <losher> ktne: sorry, dunno then...
[06:23] <Tohuw> !welcome | ramas
[06:23] <Arkhalis> WIGGMPk: I have solved many a problem by just talking to myself lol
[06:23] <ramas> how do we ask for help here
[06:23] <drmrhorse_> oh wait, voss jaunty only has one kernel version
[06:23] <ramas> whats the protocol
[06:23] <ramas> thx Tohuw
[06:23] <WIGGMPk> ramas: ask
[06:23] <Tohuw> !ask | ramas
[06:23] <ramas> ok here goes
[06:23] <sam____> i've suddenly became unable to use the internet on ubuntu, can anyone help me out? thanks
[06:23] <SyphonSilent> Does anyone use the Prozilla download accelerator?
[06:23] <losher> SyphonSilent: why do you think you need to open an rpm?
[06:23] <voss> drmrhorse, thats not true go into grub using esc and youll see
[06:23] <ramas> I installed jaunty on my girlfriend lap a GW6009mx
[06:23] <mbostwick> hello I am trying to get glx working but I am getting this http://pastebin.com/m413786c8
[06:23] <ramas> very nice
[06:23] <entropy> I have completed Appendix A of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 and it worked. I am now trying Appendix D, and I did complete Appendix D, audio does show within Playback of pavucontrol, however I have no option to switch the stream to an equalizer, and when I run alsamixer, I get this http://pastebin.ca/1470742 - which didn't happen until I modified the .asoundrc verbatim,...
[06:23] <SyphonSilent> because thats what the file comes as
[06:23] <entropy> ...uncommenting the default EQ setting (where you actually set the levels). Help?
[06:23] <drmrhorse_> k, brb
[06:23] <Tohuw> !enter | ramas
[06:23] <loof> drmrhorse_, : what else did you install? sounds like you installed new video drivers and managed to mess it up
[06:23] <karatekickz> can anyone tell me where to to add a paramater to the vnc launch in jaunty?
[06:24] <Arkhalis> !tag | ramas
[06:24] <Arkhalis> err
[06:24] <drmrhorse_> no, just the updates
[06:24] <Arkhalis> bah
[06:24] <drmrhorse_> nothing new installed
[06:24] <voss> drmrhorse, still try it
[06:24] <DeCypher1> !compiz
[06:24] <losher> SyphonSilent: ok, I'll bite. What file?
[06:24] <jerroome> sam is your network connection up, dns and gateway indicated ?
[06:24] <saiki> how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner.. so an upgrade is really needed
[06:25] <entropy> !alsamixer
[06:25] <SyphonSilent> http://prozilla.genesys.ro/downloads/prozilla/yoper/   its a download accelerator
[06:25] <entropy> !alsa
[06:25] <saiki> !wav
[06:25] <Tohuw> I can't seem to get X to start on a RAGE Pro PCI with an Envision en7220 monitor. I have the horizsync and vertrefresh set correctly, and I've tried vesa, ati and fglrx. Any suggestions?
[06:25] <sam____> um, well my connectin works from both my other computers
[06:25] <DeCypher1> How do i install the compiz manager
[06:25] <voss> !anything
[06:25] <sam____> and when i boot into xp it works fine
[06:25] <The_Warlock> how to i access my ubuntu box remotely using a mac?
[06:25] <ramas> I have hardy working on the same model for my dad, ok, will do,  then on  hardy I have no problem whatsoever with blank cd-r's bur my GFiend just told me when she tried to burn a cd with brasero it kept telling her to insert a media, and that the blank cd icon wont show on the desktop, any ideas? as I tell you the same model and dvd-burner works like a charm on hardy
[06:25] <saiki> DeCypher1, you mean fuse-icon? or the other one?
[06:25] <voss> !life
[06:25] <sam____> and it worked fine on ubuntu until recently. aparently my ip address is <IP_ADDRESS> though, which is probably a problem
[06:25] <karatekickz> warlock you use vnc
[06:26] <unitheory> whoa I didn't realize it was called iagno; i thought it was lagno
[06:26] <mbostwick> hmm I found this...http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115300 but is there a way to check old packages ?
[06:26] <karatekickz> get a vnc client for the pac
[06:26] <karatekickz> mac
[06:26] <DeCypher1> saiki: i wanna install compiz manager
[06:26] <karatekickz> then direct it to your server ip
[06:26] <WIGGMPk> ramas: what type of project ar eyou trying to burn with brasero?
[06:26] <losher> voss: do you need help?
[06:26] <Tohuw> DeCypher1: it's in the repository, something like compiz-config-settingsmanager. Do an apt-cache search for compizconfig or compiz-config
[06:26] <unitheory> DeCypher1, the settings manager?
[06:26] <ramas> she said it was an audio cd
[06:26] <stan_man_can> The 64bit download is named amd_64, will it work win 64bit intel processors?
[06:26] <ramas> from mp3
[06:26] <DeCypher1> unitheory: ya
[06:27] <jerroome> sam____ do you have a static ip or dhcp ?
[06:27] <unitheory> DeCypher1, compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:27] <voss> losher not really I was just enjoying ubottu
[06:27] <ramas> no errrs from lame, it just kept saying to her the cd was empty
[06:27] <sam____> dhcp
[06:27] <ramas> like no medium to write to
[06:27] <WIGGMPk> ramas: join the club... VCD's and Data CD's are a known bug for Brasero
[06:27] <jerroome> try out sudo dhcpclient
[06:27] <dsdeiz_> you guys using opera 10b?
[06:27] <WIGGMPk> ramas: well that might different than.. it doesnt give you the "cannot write with the current set of plugins"??
[06:27] <Tohuw> voss: please use !command > voss when testing bot commands to avoid spam in the channel, or private query the bot.
[06:27] <coz_> ramas,  have you tried gnomebaker?
[06:27] <unitheory> dsdeiz_, i am!
[06:28] <drmrhorse_> voss: there is only one kernel version for jaunty. it hasnt updated so i dont have any more choices
[06:28] <dsdeiz_> unitheory: how is it? :-?
[06:28] <loof> drmrhorse_, : http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=disable+compiz+from+commandline
[06:28] <DeCypher1> unitheory: Thank you
[06:28] <unitheory> dsdeiz_, great!
[06:28] <ramas> WIGGMPk: mmh but never had an issue like this, and what worries me is that that cd creator doesnt see it as well
[06:28] <dsdeiz_> i'm having trouble using facebook with opera :(
[06:28] <jerroome> Tohuw what does your syslog and xorglog files indicate when launching X
[06:28] <sam____> sudo: dhcpclient: command not found
[06:28] <voss> drmrhorse, are you connected wired or wirelessly?
[06:28] <unitheory> dsdeiz_, on 10b ?
[06:28] <ramas> WIGGMPk:  basically no blank cd icon will appear on the desktop as usual
[06:28] <Tohuw> jerroome: one moment, let me check
[06:28] <dsdeiz_> yeah
[06:28] <WIGGMPk> ramas: coz_ suggested using Gnomebacker.. hav eyou tried that?
[06:28] <saiki> how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner.. so an upgrade is really needed any help on how to do this would be appriciated
[06:29] <unitheory> dsdeiz_, what problems?
[06:29] <drmrhorse_> loof: so youre saying that i should disable compiz from command line?
[06:29] <dsdeiz_> i can't post comments on the walls
[06:29] <WIGGMPk> ramas: wait, your saying the system doesnt mount the blank cd?
[06:29] <ramas> nope not yet, It will have to wait until sat when I see her
[06:29] <ramas> yep exaclty
[06:29] <loof> drmrhorse_, : what do you think?? =S
[06:29] <unitheory> dsdeiz_,  i can...
[06:29] <dsdeiz_> oh no!
[06:29] <drmrhorse_> i think that let me google that for you dot com is a site that smart asses use
[06:29] <dsdeiz_> reall??
[06:29] <unitheory> yep
[06:29] <stan_man_can> Ubuntu 9.04's 64bit install is named ub ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso, will that also work with Intel processors???
[06:29] <WIGGMPk> ramas: does it mount it at first.. then fail to burn.. then not mount again???
[06:29] <ramas> WIGGMPk is not just brasero, she says no blank cd icon will appear inm the desktop,
[06:29] <loof> drmrhorse_, : possibly!
[06:30] <ramas> it wont mount
[06:30] <dsdeiz_> did you do anything or did it just work all 'out of the box'?
[06:30] <loof> but yeah, try disabling compiz
[06:30] <loof> and you'd likely have to reboot
[06:30] <unitheory> dsdeiz_, works ootb
[06:30] <coz_> ramael,  is this a fresh install   ... an upgrade... and was this happening from the get go?
[06:30] <drmrhorse_> k
[06:30] <WIGGMPk> ramas: well... worst case scenario its the hardware.. meaning her cd/dvd drive might have went.. you'll need the machine to trouble shoot it though
[06:30] <ramas> WIGGMPk: is not from the plugins or anything she cant burn anything cuz seems the system doiesnt get aware of the blank cds
[06:30] <coz_> ramael, sorry
[06:30] <WIGGMPk> ramas: is there another OS on the machine to test?
[06:31] <coz_> ramas,  was this a clean install .. an upgrade...and was th is happening from the get go?
[06:31] <WIGGMPk> ramas: do other cd/dvd's work? like software/games/etc?
[06:31] <loof> you can try turning it back on, but make sure your hardware supports compiz and you're running in a res that compiz can actually display properly
[06:31] <Tohuw> jerroome: O
[06:31] <ramas> WIGGMPk: machin is brand new, we burn stuff with vista before wiping
[06:31] <Tohuw> jerroome: Sorry, mistype, one moment
[06:31] <unitheory> dsdeiz_, i do have flash installed
[06:31] <Owner> if i want to dual boot ubuntu latest version and windows xp which one do i install first because i have a problem
[06:31] <unitheory> Owner, windows
[06:31] <ramas> WIGGMPk: all other cd media are read fine, she has spent several days rippping her library of music for rhythmbox and stuff
[06:31] <voss> ramas, do you have a spare cd burner you can use to test it with?
[06:32] <coz_> Owner,  then make sure window is defragged properly before installing ubuntu unless its on a separate drive
[06:32] <karatekickz> anyone help me with headless vnc issue?
[06:32] <loof> 0wner: installing windows first is probably easier. there are guides to installing xp & linux & dualbooting on youtube & google
[06:32] <mutew> Owner, Windows....
[06:32] <WIGGMPk> ramas: im not sure on this one bud.. someone more knowledgeable will need to tackle this.. perhaps the media??? have you tried different brands??
[06:32] <coz_> karatekickz,  if  no one can here try  #linux channel it is more across the board and less ubuntu specific
[06:32] <mutew> Owner, Ubuntu will atleast play along nicely and add Windows as a multi-boot option
[06:33] <Tohuw> jerroome: I'm seeing two things of interest: "gdm_config_value_get_bool: assertion 'value->type == GDM_CONFIG_VALUE_BOOL' failed" and "failed to start x sefveral times in a short time period; disabling dispaly :0"
[06:33] <karatekickz> tried linux help... they werent helpful
[06:33] <karatekickz> I also googled a ton
[06:33] <mutew> Owner, The same cannot be said of Windows, it will overwrite the MBR on install and you will have to use another method to access the Ubuntu install.
[06:33] <karatekickz> this seem distro specific
[06:33] <karatekickz> I need to find where vnc gets loaded
[06:33] <mutew> karatekickz, What's the exact issue?
[06:34] <karatekickz> im running vnc headless...
[06:34] <sparr> I use kate for programming under KDE.  What is a similarly featureful editor for GNOME?
[06:34] <karatekickz> it defualts to 640 480 I need to send it a parameter on boot
[06:34] <mutew> karatekickz, and?
[06:34] <ramas1> WIGGMPk:/voss nope not really dont have any usb based ones, I have the pc and as I tell u my fathers exactly same model worked like a charm with hardy, I was hoping this was a known bug with hardy but I couldnt find any threads in the forums dealing with this
[06:34] <karatekickz> I need to find the file that lauches it
[06:34] <stan_man_can> actually the easiest thing for me personally when setting up a dual boot is to install on seperate hard drives and change in bios
[06:34] <mbostwick> can someone tell me where  libGLcore.so.180.44    libGL.so.180.44 are packaged
[06:34] <ramas1> sorry a known bug with jaunty
[06:34] <stan_man_can> makes formatting or removing one of the OS'es alot eaiser without mucking with the boot managers
[06:35] <voss> ramas, what kind of disc is it?
[06:35] <dsdeiz_> unitheory: oops, it works now.. :D sorry about that.. Opera's kewl.. B-)
[06:35] <Rabbitbunny> I've forgotten a word. What are those things over there by the clock? I'd like to make one and Google doesn't work without nouns
[06:35] <ramas1> she says it is a normal-regular cd-r, Im mad at me because that was the one thing of hw I didnt try before handing it over to her
[06:35] <losher> karatekickz: I'm confused. How do you know you're running vnc headless if you didn't start it yourself by hand?
[06:36] <newbyx86> Schweet. Got my Ubuntu server all up to date.
[06:36] <ramas1> she says the brand is sony, I told her to buy a verbatim and imation tomorrow and try those maybe its some kind of weird model of cd-r I have heard of ones not working
[06:36] <mutew> karatekickz, How about looking into ~/.vnc/
[06:36] <ramas1> Ive never had issues with those brands
[06:36] <dsdeiz_> unitheory: how to install the flash player for it? :-?
[06:37] <mutew> Owner, which dll?
[06:37] <unitheory> dsdeiz_, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:37] <sam____> so does that mean my computer doesn't have dhcp set up or something?
[06:37] <ramas1> so no other ideas?
[06:37] <hemanth> how can I mount an ip ,which I'm anle to ping on port 21
[06:37] <dsdeiz_> oh same with firefox.. ok thanks got it already ;)
[06:37] <Owner> mutew i am not sure the name but i can look it up
[06:38] <jerroome`> sam____ what did the command return, I had a connection interruption and didn't get your reply
[06:38] <karatekickz> losher its started in my install im running mythbuntu but I think it starts with ubuntu as well
[06:38] <loof> stan_man_can, : that's a crappy way to dualboot
[06:38] <ramas> anyone still following me?
[06:38] <mutew> Owner, do that and let me know.
[06:38] <mutew> Owner, also when did you get the error?
[06:38] <arindam> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:38] <sam____> returned: sudo: dhcpclient: command not found
[06:38] <jerroome`> ramas repeat
[06:38] <Owner> right after i installed ubuntu
[06:38] <bazhang> sam____, dhclient eth0 for example
[06:39] <sam____> oh okay
[06:39] <jerroome`> sam____ did you try dhclient, I told you the wrong command before
[06:39] <zortec> Is there anyone who can help configure my network in nm?
[06:39] <ramas> jerome: what was the last part u got?
[06:39] <bazhang> sam____, sudo dhclient eth0 (for ethernet)
[06:39] <losher> karatekickz: ok, so what problem are you trying to solve?
[06:39] <sam____> doing that now
[06:39] <mutew> Owner, Does the WinXP option show up in the Grub boot menu?
[06:39] <karatekickz> I need to find where vnc is launched
[06:39] <VirusTBX> hey who was it that told me to install WICD ? ?  that thy messe sp ym system!
[06:39] <karatekickz> then simply add a paramter
[06:39] <Owner> mutew yes
[06:39] <karatekickz> its so simple
[06:39] <DeCypher1> UHM sombody.. help please? http://i40.tinypic.com/2isvywl.png
[06:39] <karatekickz> yet nowone can tell me
[06:39] <karatekickz> I have 3hours in this
[06:40] <sam____> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 134519072
[06:40] <mutew> But it doesn't boot when you select WinXP, right?
[06:40] <Owner> ya
[06:40] <jerroome`> ramas nothing
[06:40] <Owner> it only says a file is missing
[06:40] <SyphonSilent> can someone help me find a download accelerator?
[06:40] <bazhang> sam____, don't worry about that
[06:40] <sam____> yeah
[06:40] <mutew> karatekickz, did you find a .vnc folder in the remote system?
[06:40] <sam____> so where do i tell you from?
[06:40] <ramas> jerome: so u didnt catch anything from what I told voss ... ok again
[06:40] <JayX> loof was it you that told me to install WIDC to creat an Ad-hoc?
[06:40] <bazhang> !info aria2 | SyphonSilent
[06:40] <zortec> NM says that my device is not managed.  It worked when I first installed ubuntu, now the network is not being monitored.  Any ideas?
[06:40] <sam____> after listing some other stuff: No DHCPOFFERS recieved.
[06:40] <losher> karatekickz: did you look in ~/.vnc like mutew said?
[06:40] <JayX> Where can I view the log, of this chatroom online???
[06:41] <Owner> mutew, all it says is a file that is missing
[06:41] <sam____> No working leases in peristent databas - sleeping.
[06:41] <mutew> Owner, I need to know the file name.
[06:41] <Owner> mutew, let me go look up which file it is
[06:41] <zortec> JayX: I don't believe there is a log of this IRC room.
[06:41] <mutew> Owner, Was it nt32.dll?
[06:41] <JayX> < --- Needs to know : Where can I view the log, of this chatroom online???
[06:41] <drmrhorse_> my x session problem was fixed by changing from kdm to gdm. kdm used to work for me with gnome, but no more i guess
[06:41] <losher> JayX: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[06:41] <ramas> my gfiends lap has jaunty, it doesn mount the blank cd's and as such it cant burn them, brasero for ex keeps askling her to enter a medium to write to, the blank cd icon wont even show on the desktop
[06:41] <voss> So its cd-r not cd-rw
[06:41] <Ophelix> Hiya I got a Question
[06:41] <bazhang> !logs > JayX
[06:41] <Owner> metew, i have no idea brb let me check
[06:41] <ramas> voss: nope she says theyŕe cd-r
[06:42] <Ophelix> Is there a way to get a USB Game Controller working in ubuntu?
[06:42] <voss> They might have already been used
[06:42] <ramas> voss: I told her to buy a couple more tomorrow, verbatim and/or imation Ive had good exp with those brands
[06:42] <zortec> I'm unsure how to configure my network.  I want to set up a DSL connection so I put in the username and password, but I don't know what to put for service.
[06:42] <Arkhalis> Ophelix: it should work automatically... if you need calibration there is an app called Joystick Calibrator in the repos
[06:42] <JayX> losher, bazhang   #ubuntu.txt is this chat room right?
[06:43] <zortec> My network is working fine, but it's not being managed by network connections
[06:43] <voss> by the way what is the brand of cd burner in there?
[06:43] <ramas> I have the hope its just some issue with the cd brand and another iwll work
[06:43] <jerroome`> ramas I have never heard that some brands weren't working, can't give you any hint for it, as voss said, are you sure the cd are blank ?
[06:43] <mutew> karatekickz, try searching for the vncserver -geometry...
[06:43] <bazhang> JayX, yep
[06:43] <zortec> It says that no valid active connections are found.
[06:43] <karatekickz> I see nothing in there other than passwd
[06:43] <Ophelix> Well it doesnt, its a Tesun USB 706, but Im running it on the EEE-PC Hardy Lean Kernel, would that make a different
[06:43] <mutew> karatekickz, command call, it should be in /etc (probably in rc.local) if you are running it headless as you say.
[06:43] <ramas> she says the cd's come from a bunch her father bought u know, from office max
[06:43] <karatekickz> also why dont I see .vnc when I ls the /~
[06:44] <bazhang> SyphonSilent, please ask in channel (not via PM)
[06:44] <ramas> tjhey dont have labels and come in a tower
[06:44] <karatekickz> I looked and rc.local
[06:44] <karatekickz> no reference
[06:44] <voss> ramas what is the brand of the drive
[06:44] <jerroome`> sam____ are you allowed to connect to that network ? isn't it filtered trough MAC adresses ?
[06:44] <ramas> I can fetch u the model and brand of the burner
[06:44] <ramas> hold
[06:44] <mutew> karatekickz, do a grep for "vncserver" in /etc
[06:44] <Arkhalis> Ophelix: I am running on an eeepc 1008ha and every controller i have plugged in works automatically /dev/input/js    if the app needs a controller location
[06:44] <sam____> um, it could be, i guess, but it's my own home network and everything else works fine without having to do any setup of that kind
[06:45] <Owner> mutew, it does not say the dll name all its says, "some dlls are needed for loading the kernel"
[06:45] <Arkhalis> try the joystick calibrator to see if it's really there... if not perhaps try finding drivers for it
[06:45] <mutew> karatekickz, or if your fs has updatedb then try and do a "locate xstartup"
[06:45] <Ophelix> Alright Ill give it a try one minuto
[06:45] <losher> karatekickz: you need 'ls -a' to see files starting with a dot
[06:45] <Arkhalis> Ophelix: try the joystick calibrator to see if it's really there... if not perhaps try finding drivers for it
[06:45] <mutew> Owner, in that case you could try booting from the WinXP cd and running the repair option.
[06:45] <jerroome`> do you use that network for the moment with another machine, if yes have a look at your dhcp-server config
[06:46] <zortec> Where can I find a troubleshooting guide for the network manager on 9.04?
[06:46] <Apollo2366> Hey, I'm having trouble with Pidgin using the Yahoo protocol.
[06:46] <Owner> mutew, alright thank you very much
[06:46] <loof> JayX, : i said to watch that video on youtube and try that
[06:46] <JimBiggs> hi there people, i've got a problem, X won't start (or will start but display a black empty screen) since a few minutes ago (after the restart following today's update)
[06:46] <SyphonSilent> Does anyone know how to use Aria2?
[06:46] <JayX> loff i did, but i dont have the bash commands to create an ad-hov
[06:46] <JayX> hoc*
[06:47] <Arkhalis> Ophelix: please tag your message when you come back so i know you are talking to me... don't always catch it without
[06:47] <JimBiggs> anyone having video issues since the last update?
[06:47] <Ophelix> Arkhalis: Alright ill be sure to do that
[06:47] <rameshworr> Apollo2366: same here. it's not working..
[06:47] <Arkhalis> Ophelix: perfect, thanks
[06:47] <karatekickz> thx for helping btw mutew
[06:48] <SyphonSilent> Does anyone know how to use aria2?
[06:48] <JayX> loof i did, but i dont have the bash commands to create an ad-hov
[06:48] <jerroome`> JimBiggs can you access a terminal ?
[06:48] <mutew> karatekickz, any luck yet?
[06:48] <Apollo2366> rameshworr, that's three for three then, I think it's a problem with Pidgin
[06:48] <karatekickz> what would the exact comand be for the grep request?
[06:48] <Apollo2366> rameshworr, my friend has the same problem
[06:48] <karatekickz> any parameters?
[06:48] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, yes, i'm in it just right now, but all i can see in dmesg is "[drm: i915_get_vblank_counter] *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0"
[06:48] <mutew> grep "vncserver" /etc -r
[06:48] <losher> JayX: what's an ad-hoc?
[06:49] <jerroome`> if yes, backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:49] <ramas> voss: sorry the lap is at her home I canbt find the burner model and I dont recall what it was, all I can tell u is a Gateway mx 6009m with celeron 2.1Ghz processor
[06:49] <mutew> karatekickz, grep "vncserver" /etc -r
[06:49] <jerroome`> and then execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:49] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, backup done, and then?
[06:49] <JayX> losher, good question... it something to do with shareing a network connections
[06:49] <JayX> !info ad-hoc
[06:49] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, ok, i'll try that straight away and keep you updated ;)
[06:49] <Ophelix> Arkhalis: Alright sweetness all i needed to do was install the configurator thanks!
[06:49] <usingartistxlive> loof ,WIGGMPk, how do I get the terminal from a live-cd to administer changes to the installed OS, or, if easier, how do I get the root password enabled on the installed OS from the live-cd terminal? I got lost in the shell there for awhile.
[06:49] <ramas> my father has the exact same model and the burner worked without issues to burn 2 dvd¡'s and a cd-r last week
[06:49] <jerroome`> don't need to reboot
[06:49] <zortec> Where can I get help for network manager?
[06:49] <voss> ramas, the best strategy try the other brand cds tommorow, if they dont work , replace the drive
[06:49] <JayX> losher,  wifi connection*
[06:49] <jerroome`> execute telinit S
[06:49] <Arkhalis> Ophelix: Glad to help, and remember if the app you run needs the controller location it's /dev/input/js
[06:49] <jerroome`> and then launch X manually again
[06:49] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, telinit S ?
[06:50] <unitheory> JayX, losher, ad-hoc is a network with a mobile device such as a laptop acting as the access point
[06:50] <JimBiggs> with startx?
[06:50] <jerroome`> with gdm if you use gnome
[06:50] <JimBiggs> oh ok gdm
[06:50] <karatekickz> lots of permission denied when run from /~
[06:50] <mutew> losher, an ad-hoc connection is a type of network connection built without the aid of any external networking infrastructure..
[06:50] <karatekickz> no hits
[06:50] <JimBiggs> ok i'll try that straight away ;)
[06:50] <jerroome`> ok
[06:50] <Ophelix> Arkhalis: Got it Alright thanks again
[06:50] <losher> makes sense, thanks all...
[06:50] <mutew> losher, so for eg. the connection between a couple of laptops, mobiles or PDA's without the use of a router is an ad-goc connection.
[06:50] <ramas> well, we'll see wuth the other cd's Ill have more info tomorrow and then Ill ask again if necessary, if its worth it, in windows vista she burned a dvd prior to wiping it, the lap is brand new
[06:50] <JayX> unitheory,  so then how doe tethering work? is the lapot is the access point?
[06:51] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, telinit S shows me a recovery menu, what should i choose?
[06:51] <unitheory> JayX, not sure about that one ;]
[06:51] <JayX> unitheory,  ok :P
[06:51] <sam____> also, when i go into attached devices it only shows my windows desktop and my macbook, not the ubuntu desktop
[06:51] <jerroome`> normal resume or similar
[06:51] <sam____> on my router that is
[06:51] <ramas> thx for the help, I hope I dont have to downgrade it to hardy, as it works pretty well and she has all her apps and look and feel already set in jaunty
[06:52] <voss> ramas, you can also try creating an ubuntu live cd on another computer and if it wont boot the disc then you know.
[06:52] <karatekickz> I gotta run mute thanks for the help so far...I guess I will google more
[06:52] <losher> karatekickz: which parameter do you want to add?
[06:52] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, i think i screwed something up with telinit S, i'll just reboot
[06:52] <karatekickz> whatever teh screen res para is I have to google again
[06:53] <jerroome`> ok, reboot
[06:53] <jerroome`> but don't worry, nothing can be broken
[06:53] <mutew> karatekickz, try searching for vncserver -geometry 640x480
[06:53] <mutew> karatekickz, that should be the command line invocation
[06:53] <ramas> voss: k, but she says data and music cd's are mounted fine, the only proib is with blank cds
[06:53] <karatekickz> -geometry
[06:53] <losher> karatekickz: as I understand it, mythbubtu runs the gnome desktop, and gnome has a VINO server built in, which serves vnc'
[06:54] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, could this issue be because i added the "latest video drivers source" in apt lately? (like a week ago
[06:54] <karatekickz>  nah it defaults cause I am running headless
[06:54] <mutew> losher, but he's talking of a headless vnc system.
[06:54] <ramas> problem is she doesnt live with me yet so I wont be sure until friday when I see her and the laptop
[06:54] <karatekickz> I cant even find a reference for freaking vnc
[06:54] <karatekickz> its simple
[06:54] <karatekickz> I just gotta add that paramte
[06:54] <voss> ramas, a ubuntu live cd is an iso . If the system will boot the live cd, then its not a drive reading problem
[06:54] <karatekickz> I acannot belive this is that difficult
[06:54] <karatekickz> very frustrating
[06:55] <losher> karatekickz: so when you run 'ps ax' is there a vncserver running?
[06:55] <ramas> anyway, thx Ill be back probably if the other cd's dont work, she has xp in another partition Ill try to see if she can burn from there...
[06:55] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, no luck still the black empty screen (but there's sound ;)
[06:55] <jerroome`> JimBiggs, could be, but I didn't heard anything about it
[06:55] <unitheory> voss,  some faulty drive can still boot livecds
[06:55] <karatekickz> im vnced in right now
[06:55] <karatekickz> using it
[06:55] <Warrigal_> How do I configure the compose key such that composing _a or _o results in the character I want?
[06:55] <karatekickz> so yes a vnc server is running
[06:55] <jerroome`> pastebin return of lspci
[06:55] <Arkhalis> karatekickz: I hate problems like that... then when you figure it out you go well that was easy! (only with more vulgar language)
[06:55] <jerroome`> lsmod
[06:55] <karatekickz> lol thats how this one is
[06:55] <jerroome`> and also your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:55] <losher> karatekickz: but you didn't start the vncserver explicitly?
[06:55] <ramas> yep I just installed jaunty from cd a week ago
[06:55] <voss> uni, but a drive that cannot read a live is a definite hardware failure
[06:56] <karatekickz> myth gave me the option to install it
[06:56] <JayX> loof how do i make a bash comand to create a Ad-hoc network?
[06:56] <karatekickz> so I assume its set to load on boot
[06:56] <ramas> as I tell u guys the oinly issue on thw whole hw in the laptop is with these blank cd's
[06:56] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, how could i pastebin anything? it's on my laptop and i only have access to the term :(
[06:56] <JimBiggs> well, the console
[06:56] <ramas> the system treats them as if no medium was in the drive
[06:56] <loof> jayx: http://www.prash-babu.com/2008/08/how-to-createjoin-adhoc-network-in.html
[06:56] <bazhang> JimBiggs, pastebinit
[06:56] <voss> ramas, the whole might be those crappy office depot cds in which case youre golden :)
[06:56] <jerroome`> give me a sec, I don't have an issue directly
[06:56] <losher> karatekickz: back to what mutew said then. Grep for vnc in /etc/init.d/*
[06:56] <Arkhalis> ramas: sorry if my question is redundant and already been answered... but try updating the firmware on your cd drive
[06:56] <bazhang> JimBiggs, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:56] <bullgard4> [GNOME] After dist-upgrade to Uuntu 9.04 the arrow keys and the 'Alt Gr' key function wrongly. They do work correctly in the virtual consoles. How to fix this?
[06:57] <jerroome`> use w3m or lynx as browser
[06:57] <JimBiggs> bazhang, that's clever ;)
[06:57] <bazhang> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (for example)
[06:57] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, ok, will do ;)
[06:57] <JimBiggs> bazhang, very clever ;)
[06:57] <losher> karatekickz: mutew: sorry I'm behind you guys
[06:57] <JimBiggs> i'll do that
[06:57] <ramas> ok that sounds good will see the manufacturer and see if theres a fw upgrade if the other cds dont work tomorrow
[06:57] <karatekickz> its not in xconf
[06:57] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, so lsmod, lspci and xorg.conf right?
[06:57] <Arkhalis> ramas: only problem with firmware is
[06:58] <ramas> she says theyŕe sony, but I doubt it as she says they dont have any labels or anything
[06:58] <jerroome`> yes
[06:58] <losher> karatekickz: if it's forked from mythbackend, you'll never find it...
[06:58] <ramas> if u screw u blow the hw?
[06:58] <Arkhalis> ramas: a lot of the time there are only windows installers for updating firmware so you may run into problems there
[06:58] <karatekickz> k im in that directory
[06:58] <karatekickz> so just grep "vncserver"?
[06:59] <karatekickz> cause it appears hung
[06:59] <losher> karatekickz: 'grep vnc /etc/init.d/*'
[06:59] <unitheory> grep grep grep
[06:59] <karatekickz> from /~ ?
[06:59] <mutew> karatekickz, cd /etc
[06:59] <mutew> karatekickz, grep "vncserver" . -r
[07:00] <usingartistxlive> How do I enable root in the installed ubuntu by using a live-cd?
[07:00] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, lsmod: http://pastebin.com/f7f303fd, lspci http://pastebin.com/f20a8d21b, xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f2e99e69
[07:00] <ramas> she has xp install in another partition  I left it there... just in case... like these cases
[07:00] <magnetron> !root | usingartistxlive
[07:00] <losher> karatekickz: I'd prefer he do: sudo grep vnc /etc/init.d/*
[07:01] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, and dmesg: http://pastebin.com/f7489a0df
[07:01] <Arkhalis> ramas: good choice lol and good luck, hope it helps
[07:01] <jeeves> how can I connect to a windows 2003 server through a VPN?
[07:01] <karatekickz> dude it does nothing no output
[07:01] <karatekickz> back to prompt
[07:01] <karatekickz> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[07:01] <Arkhalis> mellow~
[07:01] <Tohuw> Can't get X to start using vesa, ai or fglrx. In syslog, I'm seeing two things of interest: "gdm_config_value_get_bool: assertion 'value->type == GDM_CONFIG_VALUE_BOOL' failed" and "failed to start x sefveral times in a short time period; disabling dispaly :0"
[07:01] <losher> usingartistxlive: it's tricky. if I recall, you need to a) fsck then mount the root directory
[07:01] <magnetron> !enter | karatekickz
[07:01] <Arkhalis> anger solves no computer problem... only cause them lol
[07:02] <ramas> thx you'll see me here tomorrow with more q's and info if they dont work, this is a weird one, dont think its a hw prob as the laptop is just new, anyway, gotta run thx
[07:02] <Arkhalis> ramas: night
[07:03] <losher> usingartistxlive: did you wanna do this or not?
[07:03]  * losher thinks to himself, it's like pulling teeth tonight...
[07:03] <loof> Tohuw, : what video card are you using? did you make any driver changes? i'm assuming x started before you did something to break it?
[07:03]  * Arkhalis agrees with losher
[07:04] <kandinski> does ubuntu have a good self-hosted web analytics package?
[07:04] <jerroome`> ok, give me a minute
[07:04] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, take you time, i'm stuck here anyway :p
[07:04] <gggg> is it possible to share files with samba from ubuntu to windows xp?if possible how?
[07:04] <usingartistxlive> losher, yes, I need to enable root on the installed os with the hosed xserver/xorg, while using a live-cd, so I can reboot and get past the "recovery mode's" maintenence password
[07:04] <karatekickz> groan thanks for the help im giving up for the night
[07:05] <losher> usingartistxlive: ok, so the easiest way I can think to do that is to generate a root password on the live system & copy it to the hosed server, ok?
[07:05] <usingartistxlive> I have a fresh terminal open and ready
[07:05] <loof> kandinski, : good compared to what?
[07:05] <djolefol> Is iCon 401 3G USB modem working with Jaunty? Do I still have to disable ZeroCD first?
[07:06] <gggg> how to use samba to share files to windows xp?
[07:06] <losher> usingartistxlive: tell me the name of the root partition of the server
[07:06] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, is it possible easily to revert to the "standard" video drivers instead of the xorg-edgers to make sure they're not the issue?
[07:06] <kandinski> loof: google analytics quality
[07:06] <usingartistxlive> using nautilus, it shows up as "disk"
[07:06] <kandinski> loof: not only good statistics-wise, but also full of eye candy
[07:06] <Tohuw> loof: Rage ATI XL, but I also tried the builtin (also ATI) card. It worked before I upgraded to jaunty.
[07:07] <jerroome`> for the moment you are using standard video mode
[07:07] <jerroome`> how is your X launched
[07:07] <zetheroo> I am trying to use the Istanbul Screen Recorder but it seems to freeze after I initiate the recording session
[07:07] <jerroome`> ps -ef | grep X
[07:07] <dsdeiz_> lspci to know what video card you have right? either nvidia/intel/ati?
[07:07] <losher> usingartistxlive: can you paste the output of 'df -h' to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[07:07] <loof> gggg: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=File+Sharing+With+Ubuntu+9.04+Using+Samba
[07:08] <dsdeiz_> lol
[07:08] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, http://pastebin.com/f243cf943
[07:08] <loof> kandinsky: lol, google analytics quality. GOOD LUCK
[07:08] <djolefol> There are different opinions about iCon 401 at the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160081&highlight=iCon+401
[07:08] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, how do you know i'm using standard mode? because there's not the "uxa" stuff in xorg?
[07:09] <bazhang> loof, please don't lmgtfy
[07:09] <bazhang> !samba > gggg
[07:09] <dsdeiz_> ahh
[07:10] <loof> bazhang, : when my link is better than ubottu, it's relevant :P
[07:10] <bazhang> loof, desist in future thanks.
[07:10] <usingartistxlive> losher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201863/
[07:10] <unitheory> !samba > unitheory
[07:10] <Warrigal_> Is there an X11 channel?
[07:10] <jerroome`> yes
[07:10] <ganymede_> if use ip addr add (some-ip-here) dev eth8, then that means i can have separate daemons listening on the same ports on different IPs?
[07:11] <linuxguy2009> Hey guys I just noticed that a few apps a installed in Wine have been removed from the wine menu, but I just noticed that they have for some reason been moved to the Other menu.How do I get rid of them? I have tried gconf-editor.
[07:11] <Tohuw> Warrigal_: #xorg
[07:11] <losher> usingartistxlive: good. Now cd /media/disk/etc
[07:11] <Warrigal_> Tohuw: gracias.
[07:11] <Tohuw> linuxguy2009: alacarte
[07:11] <linuxguy2009> Sorry I meant the menu editor.
[07:11] <linuxguy2009> alacarte
[07:11] <Amaranth> don't do that
[07:12] <Tophu> is there a way to burn an backup of my 9.04 install once I get it set up the way I like it (compiz, stylus, awn ...) to a dvd or something so that I can reainstall and have everything already set up?
[07:12] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, so what do you reckon, am i out of solutions (appart from reinstalling?)
[07:12] <gggg> ubottu, thanks
[07:12] <Amaranth> Do not use the "Delete" feature in alacarte
[07:12] <JimBiggs> that would be a pain :(
[07:12] <gggg> loof, thanks
[07:12] <loof> kandinsky: http://www.google.com/urchin/index.html
[07:12] <Amaranth> It shouldn't even be there
[07:12] <Tohuw> linuxguy2009: ah. so they don't show up in alacarte?
[07:12] <loof> gggg: np
[07:12] <dsdeiz_> thanks ubottu!
[07:12] <linuxguy2009> Yes they show but they wont delete.
[07:12] <usingartistxlive> losher, okay, I'm there
[07:12] <dsdeiz_> thanks ubottu !
[07:12] <jerroome`> I wouldn't reinstall, but I don't have an immediate issue
[07:13] <dsdeiz_> oh
[07:13] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, :(
[07:13] <wicking> hello. i’ve added a file /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi to my HAL config. how can i tell HAL to immediately use these new settings without a restart of the computer?
[07:13] <jerroome`> try to repair broken packages
[07:13] <Tohuw> loof: any ideas on why when I use the fglrx driver I get "no screens found" even though I'm using a standard and simple xorg.conf?
[07:13] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, so you confirm there's nothing i could do to "revert to standard video drivers" as i should already be using them, right?
[07:13] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, how to repair broken packages?
[07:13] <losher> usingartistxlive: ok, now lets generate a root password. Type: sudo passwd root . It will prompt you to enter & repeat a root password
[07:13] <jerroome`> you can either reboot and launch in rescue mode, or launch telinit S and choose repair broken packages
[07:14] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, ok
[07:14] <ganymede_> Tophu: you can tar and gzip your entire home directory, or maybe just the dot-folders
[07:14] <loof> hmmm, what drivers are you using?
[07:14] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, is that normal that i can't use the arrows to change the menu in telinit S?
[07:14] <loof> Tohuw, : what ati drivers, i mean
[07:14] <jerroome`> if you boot in recue mode, you first have to drop to a root shell in order to set your network connection and after that laucnh repair broken packages
[07:14] <linuxguy2009> I was messing with Lego Digital Designer and a few NVIDIA demos.hehe Darn shortcuts are in Other and just wont delete.
[07:15] <jerroome`> I can, I don't know why you can't
[07:15] <usingartistxlive> losher , passwd: password updated successfully
[07:15] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, i'm having a very bad feeling :(
[07:15] <Tophu> @gany: so no way to burn an install disk :-(
[07:15] <unitheory> linuxguy2009, can't you use gnome's menu editor?
[07:15] <Tohuw> loof: What do you mean? I'm using fglrx as the driver. fglrx is installed properly; it was working before upgrade
[07:16] <losher> usingartistxlive: ok. now look at the file /etc/shadow: the first line should say root: followed by a bunch of weird characters
[07:16] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, when i type any key it writes over the menus, and the arrows arent reponsive
[07:16] <linuxguy2009> Yes I have used alacarte many times its great.It just wont do it for some odd reason.
[07:16] <jerroome`> after you have launched the xorg reconfigure command, you aren't using any third party drivers for graphics anymore
[07:16] <Amaranth> linuxguy2009: Don't use the "Delete" option in alacarte
[07:16] <unitheory> linuxguy2009, uncheck the boxes next to the entries you don't want to show ?
[07:16] <Amaranth> linuxguy2009: It causes problems later
[07:17] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, oh ok ;)
[07:17] <losher> usingartistxlive: you may need to say 'sudo cat /etc/shadow' to read it...
[07:17] <jerroome`> than just reboot
[07:17] <zetheroo> please help, Istanbul Screen Recorder is not working for me ... I have a terminal output if anyone is interested ...
[07:17] <jerroome`> and go to rescue mode
[07:17] <Tohuw> loof, do you need to see my xorg.conf, and if so is there a quick way to put it on pastebin when all I have is root prompt with networking?
[07:17] <bullgard4> [GNOME] After dist-upgrade to Uuntu 9.04 the arrow keys and the 'Alt Gr' key function wrongly. They do work correctly in the virtual consoles. How to fix this?
[07:17] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, ok, i'll try that :/
[07:17] <sparr> are there any good Free alternatives to GPSDrive or TangoGPS?
[07:17] <xooo> can anyone think of a temporary fix for this pidgin-yahoo network problem?
[07:18] <linuxguy2009> unitheory: thats a good temp fix. So I did it. Im thinking its reading them from a folder somewhere.
[07:18] <Amaranth> linuxguy2009: ~/.local/share/applications/wine/
[07:18] <Tophu> @xooo: I thought they came out with an update that fixed that
[07:18] <usingartistxlive> losher, I just opened it from nautilus, and it shows root:x: then some numbers and ":"s
[07:18] <xooo> Tophu: tell me how to do it because mine isn't fixed
[07:19] <unitheory> xooo, you can change the server pidgin connects to if you don't want to update pidgin
[07:19] <xooo> id like to update pidgin
[07:19] <loof> tohuw: i didn't think that the ati rage xl was supported by fglrx??? are you SURE it is??
[07:19] <Stanley_> I just installed ubuntu 9.04, is root disabled by default? how do i enable it? I'm trying to do things and it won't let me
[07:19] <losher> usingartistxlive: ok, that bunch of numers & stuff between the colons is the password you just generated. We need to copy it to the server
[07:19] <Aacron> if anyone was in here earlier when I was having the grub issues, I fixed em!!  (YAY for me!).  As I thought, what grub sees when it is installed from inside linux is different from what it sees when it it loaded from MBR right after POST.
[07:19] <linuxguy2009> Amaranth: Big thumbs up, you da man/woman!
[07:19] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, i just tried booting with the previous kernel, and it didn't work better, so that could mean it's really video related, right?
[07:19] <Amaranth> !root | Stanley_
[07:19] <Tophu> @stanley: all commands cane be executte as root by useing sudo <command>
[07:20] <Tohuw> loof: no, actually. I'm not certain. this computer has two cards, a built in ati and the pci rage. one moment, let me try something
[07:20] <Aacron> Stanley_: sudo
[07:20] <Tophu> sudo so drops you into root
[07:20] <Tophu> sudo su*
[07:20] <linuxguy2009> Ill have to remeber that one next time.
[07:20] <Stanley_> so it's sudo in unbuntu instead of su
[07:20] <Stanley_>  ?
[07:20] <Tophu> http://www.pidgin.im/
[07:20] <Aacron> yeah, SuperUserDO
[07:20] <Tophu> on that front page it says yahoo problems are fixed
[07:20] <Aacron> least hwo I remember it :P
[07:20] <usingartistxlive>  losher, okay, it is as you say from "sudo cat...."
[07:21] <wicking> again: i’ve added a file /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi to my HAL config. how can i tell HAL to immediately use these new settings without a restart of the computer?
[07:21] <jerroome`> yes it is
[07:21] <linuxguy2009> Man i love this wallpaper-tray app from the repos.Its cool.
[07:21] <Stanley_> I'm new to linux and all I've used so far is CentOS on my servers, I tried to use Fedora but it seems a little clunky
[07:21] <Aacron> well now that my GRUB issues are solved, i now need help getting my not-so-supported SiiG sil0680 Medley card to play nice in Ubuntu
[07:21] <losher> usingartistxlive: ok, we need to copy the password to the server file /media/disk/etc/passwd. Do you have a favorite text editor?
[07:21] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, i rebooted in rescue mode, selected the xfix menu entry, but still no luck :/
[07:21] <Stanley_> So I'll have to get used to doing things "differently" in ubuntu
[07:22] <Tophu> @linuxguy2009: is that the one that auto rotates wallpapers?
[07:22] <linuxguy2009> Stanley deb distros like Ubuntu and Debian are great to start with.Good luck to you!
[07:22] <Aacron> from what I have read, I need to use dmraid
[07:22] <jerroome`> then I'm out of ideas
[07:22] <loof> tohuw: with that card i think you should be using mesa
[07:22] <xooo> where do i manage how ubuntu does updates? mines not doing it automatically. i tried update manager and its not in there.
[07:22] <usingartistxlive> losher, I have gedit open
[07:22] <jerroome`> maybe you should go to a xorg chat
[07:22] <Aacron> thing is last time I tried to use it, it gave me some funky erorr about dos: something size exceeded partition
[07:22] <linuxguy2009> Tophu yeah its cool I love it. I accidentally left the timer at 0 and set it to rotate and it was swapping papers like crazy till i reset it in gconf.hehe
[07:22] <jerroome`> those people might be able to help you better
[07:22] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, i switch to #xorg, let's hope there's some people as helping as you ;)
[07:23] <losher> usingartistxlive: ok, open /media/disk/etc/shadow in the editor
[07:23] <JimBiggs> thanks a lot !
[07:23] <unitheory> xooo, system > administration > software sources
[07:23] <jerroome`> you welcome
[07:23] <jerroome`> sorry I couldn't fix your problem
[07:23] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, at least it ruled out the obvious i believe :D
[07:23] <JimBiggs> well, it's not your fault is it? at least you tried!
[07:24] <jerroome`> good luck
[07:24] <losher> usingartistxlive: you might encounter permission problems. You may need to run sudo gedit /media/disk/etc/shadow to get it to work
[07:24] <Aacron> anyone use pidgin in here?  I'd like to turn off the enter/leave messages but I dunno how to?  Course I could just install and use a real IRC client... :|
[07:24] <linuxguy2009> I learned a cool tweak the otehr day for the gnome panels, you can go to gconf and apps/panel/toplevel and set them to 0 delay for show and hide, and also 0 for how much of the panel shows when hiding and disable the animation.There totally hidden until you need em and there fast.Love it!
[07:25] <Aacron> yeah think I'll do that be back in a minute
[07:25] <usingartistxlive> losher, I closed it and reopened it with sudo
[07:25] <JimBiggs> jerroome`, thanks ;)
[07:25] <losher> usingartistxlive: ok, open a second terminal and do the same with /etc/shadow i.e. sudo gedit /etc/shadow
[07:26] <Arkhalis> I'm sleepy
[07:27] <coz_> guys where is the menu editor in kde4?
[07:27] <losher> Arkhalis: I'm pouring myself a brandy
[07:27] <usingartistxlive> losher , would a copy/paste from the first terminal to the opened gedit work?
[07:27] <Arkhalis> losher: I am bartending right now lol... Alcohol, money, karaoke, and linux /heaven
[07:28] <loof> Tohuw, : i mean, you're trying to run opengl on an 8mb video card, right? or just trying to run X?
[07:28] <losher> usingartistxlive: yes, and that's exactly what we need to do. We want to cut&paste the root password i.e. everything between the first two colons from /etc/shadow to /media/disk/etc/shadow
[07:28] <linuxguy2009> Man I swear if I would have known how cool linux was back in the day I would have switched in a minute.I dont think I could live without it now.
[07:29] <losher> usingartistxlive: we on;y need to change the first line. I hope it's clear what I mean...
[07:29] <usingartistxlive> losher, does it matter that the rest of the numbers in the terminal are different from the numbers in gedit? That is, not counting "root".
[07:29] <Arkhalis> linuxguy2009: I love linux except for gaming, I play too new of games for wine to handle so I spend most of my time on windows... everything else is linux
[07:29] <losher> linuxguy2009: linux wasn't as cool as it is now, 'back in the day'....
[07:30] <unitheory> losher, yes it was :P
[07:30] <linuxguy2009> hehe true I bought a box of Mandrake 8.0 back when i was younger and had no clue how to do anything on it but install it. Its changed a lot.
[07:30] <losher> usingartistxlive: the rest of the numbers are ok to leave as is, we only want to cut & paste the actual password
[07:30] <unitheory> i guess it depends on how you define "cool" and "back in the day"
[07:30] <usingartistxlive> losher, okay, root line only, copied and pasted.
[07:30] <losher> usingartistxlive: ok, close both editors, we're done
[07:31] <usingartistxlive> losher, "save" first, I suppose
[07:31] <mbostwick> Ok I am going crazy...http://pastebin.com/m58352ba0...I can't get glx to work on xorg :(
[07:31] <losher> usingartistxlive: yes, on the /media/disk/etc/shadow, save then exit...
[07:32] <linuxguy2009> Ok well g'night guys!
[07:32] <Arkhalis> night linuxguy2009
[07:32] <usingartistxlive> losher, thank you. I'll be back if I have any more problems.
[07:33] <Stanley_> Is there any way to get skype running on 9.05 64bit
[07:33] <zortec> I need help to configure my sound.  It is not working.
[07:33] <losher> usingartistxlive: ok, I'll hang around for 5 minutes to be sure you can at least get past the boot...
[07:33] <usingartistxlive> okay
[07:33] <Arkhalis> zortec: have you tried this?
[07:33] <Arkhalis> !alsa | zortec
[07:33] <Tohuw> loof: yeah, forgot that rage xl is only an 8mb, and that fglrx would not work with it. switched back to the other one. I updated fglrx to the latest version, and now I get a "no screens found" (this card is an radeon xpress 200g series).
[07:34] <zortec> I'm using the HDA Nvidia alsa device
[07:34] <mbostwick> anyone know what would cause this: dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000046gl
[07:35] <rizal> i have problem about crontab
[07:35] <rizal> i have problem about crontab
[07:35] <rizal> the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.
[07:35] <FloodBot1> rizal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <Tohuw> loof: I also see: This ATI proprietary linux driver does not guarantee support of video driver ABI higher than 2.0 video driver ABI version of the X server is 5.0
[07:35] <loof> Tohuw, : yeah, i was like "uhhhhh, fglrx on an 8mb card??? i'm amazed you were trying to run X!" lol =S
[07:35] <Arkhalis> zortec: right, but have you set them all to also mixer to see if you get sound
[07:35] <zortec> Ok, got the sound working but it's very low
[07:36] <Stanley_> I have a Nvidia GTX-260 and an Nvidia 9500GT that i use to power 4 monitors, What Drivers should I install?
[07:36] <zortec> Arkhalis: I had to turn up the PCM control
[07:36] <losher> mbostwick: my first guess is that the module was built for a different version of xserver than the one running...
[07:36] <loof> Tohuw, : you should try using MESA if you want opengl on the card
[07:36] <zortec> Arkhalis: Where would I set them all?  I only see one drop down for mixer
[07:36] <Kasm279> i cant get ubuntu 9.04 to work with my laptop's touchpad, and its an issue in kernel 2.6 as it works with 8.10 and DSL
[07:36] <Arkhalis> zortec: good, my sound is rediculously quiet as well... haven't worked that one out yet
[07:36] <loof> stanley: the closed source nvidia drivers. 180.60 is the newest as i recall
[07:37] <Arkhalis> zortec: ah, that was me being dumb ignore the "all"
[07:37] <zortec> Arkhalis: I'm going to search around and see why sound on linux is extremely quiet
[07:37] <Aacron> quick question: I'm not sure I like xchat-gnome too terribly much... options I'd like (like auto-identify) are not here... any recommendations?
[07:37] <Stanley_> loof: So I should use Nvidia's drivers?
[07:37] <Arkhalis> zortec: there may be a fix in that alsa reference i just showed you
[07:37] <unitheory> Aacron, xchat can auto-identify
[07:38] <Arkhalis> zortec: if you find a solution msg me a website (i've just been too busy to figure it out)
[07:38] <Arkhalis> please ^^
[07:38] <zortec> Arkhalis: No problem :)
[07:38] <Kasm279> any ideas?
[07:38] <Aacron> I'm using xchat-gnome (said it was supported by Ubuntu, the normal xchat wasn't?)
[07:39] <Aacron> unitheory: so should I de-install this one and use the other xchat?
[07:39] <Arkhalis> Aacron: just set your identify as a perform action on boot of xchat
[07:39] <loof> Stanley_, : yeah
[07:39] <unitheory> Aacron, i'm not familiar with xchat-gnome.
[07:39] <Stanley_> loof: is there a tutorial available for that? I've seen a couple but am not sure which one to use
[07:40] <Aacron> dont see the self-identify option anywhere (nor a way to turn off these pesky scrolling enter/leave messages)
[07:40] <Aacron> kk, guess the other is safe?
[07:40] <Aacron> Was kinda leery of stuff that doesn't say 'supported by ubuntu' on it :P
[07:40] <loof> the newest off the nvidia site
[07:40] <loof> which is 180.60
[07:40] <Aacron> I'll be back in a minute then... try out the other one
[07:40] <Kasm279> any ideas at all?
[07:41] <Tohuw> loof: what should I use for the "driver" paramter in my xorg.conf to use mesa?
[07:41] <unitheory> Kasm279, what model laptop?
[07:42] <Kasm279> Averatec 3725-EH1 (3700 series), unitheory
[07:42] <hai> how can I continue booting the system from rescue mode while im ssh'd in
[07:42] <hai> init?
[07:42] <Stanley_> loof: Can they be installed via the packet manager or is it manual
[07:43] <Stanley_> loof: also, nvidia' website shows it as the latest version being 185.18.14
[07:44] <Arkhalis> zortec: Hey, think this may help... let me know if it does http://dollarunderscore.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/sound-quiet-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-704/
[07:44] <unitheory> Kasm279, make a backup of your xorg.conf and try the solution in http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-312821.html
[07:45] <k2000> Can anyone help me recover a corrupt ntfs filesystem contained in a raid0 array.  The corruption is a result of a defective memory
[07:45] <Aacron> ahh this is much better so far
[07:47] <loof> Stanley_, : ahh, my bad. 185 >> 180. so yeah, use those
[07:47] <unitheory> Aacron, if you right-click on the channel tab the hide join/parts setting is in there
[07:47] <Aacron> kk thanks :P
[07:47] <Stanley_> loof: and is it really as easy as "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run" ?? I remember last time it was alot more difficult
[07:48] <losher> k2000: there is an ntfsfix program, but it's no substitute for chkdsk, You really need to get a windows system to check/repair the fs
[07:49] <k2000> losher: when I try to boot windows from the installation cd it hangs b4 detecting the hard drives
[07:49] <rizal> i have problem about crontab
[07:49] <rizal> the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.
[07:49] <k2000> losher: It has vista on it
[07:49] <loof> Stanley_, : yeah it's pretty simple if you choose the basic options. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/185.18.14/README/index.html is the whole manual (pretty big, not really needed) see sections 15 and 13 for details on multi-monitor support.
[07:49] <losher> k2000: sorry, I know even less about windows than I do about linux...
[07:50] <nellmathew> anyone know how to change gnome tray icons of specific apps? (dropbox's 16x16 icon is annoying in my theme)
[07:50] <k2000> In linux I see both hard drives
[07:50] <Stanley_> How do i exit X before installing?
[07:50] <k2000> linux even detects a ntfs filesystem on the first hard drive
[07:50] <k2000> but the second hard drive's filesystem is listed as unknown
[07:51] <unitheory> nellmathew, afaik each application controls the appearance/presence of its tray icon
[07:51] <nellmathew> ah thanks unitheory
[07:51] <k2000> I dont mind tryint the ntfsfix in linux
[07:51] <Arkhalis> zortec: you there?
[07:51] <loof> Stanley_, : backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file before you go ahead with the install, tho, just in case you have problems you can put it back in place and use your old x config file that way
[07:51] <k2000> I was successfull with most of the time I used it on non-raid drives
[07:52] <losher> k2000: by all means try it, but if you read the man page, you'll see if recommends booting into windows...
[07:52] <unitheory> nellmathew, if you can set the app to disable its tray icon there are application out there that let you make tray icons for any program and you can configure them if i recall correctly
[07:52] <|Ryan> Hey, I'm about to burn BackTrack 4 preRelease to a Dvd. Do I just burn the iso straight to the DVD and it works? or is there specific things I need to do?
[07:53] <unitheory> and i continue missing the s key
[07:53] <k2000> I tried everything I know in windows :(
[07:53] <k2000> I'll try again then
[07:53] <zortec> Arkhalis: I'm still here, what did it for me was to turn up the Surround slider in the volume control
[07:53] <k2000> just in case I missed something
[07:54] <Apollo2366> Might be a noob question, but where do I change the default applications for different filetypes?
[07:54] <losher> |Ryan: if it's an iso, be sure to burn it in 'image mode' is the only gotcha...
[07:54] <nellmathew> unitheory, thanks, sounds good enough. i'll look into that then..
[07:54] <Stanley_> The installation requirements say: XFree86/X.Org 	4.0.1/6.7 	 and to check type: XFree86 -version/Xorg -version
[07:54] <unitheory> Apollo2366, right-click on the file you want to change then it's under the "open with" tab
[07:55] <Aacron> hey k2000, I just had a huge thing I had to deal with for grub
[07:55] <Aacron> and I had similar issues
[07:55] <Stanley_> it said ntohing was found so i did a sudo aptitude install Xfree86
[07:55] <Aacron> I resolved it... maybe you're having a similar issue?
[07:55] <Stanley_> And it's still not giving me a version
[07:55] <|Ryan> losher: Any recommended software for doing this?
[07:56] <losher> |Ryan: what os version are you running?
[07:56] <Apollo2366> unitheory, it works once, but the default application for that filetype remains the same
[07:56] <Arkhalis> zortec: using the sudo alsamixer command? I just fixed mine by turing up the line out as well (apparently it affects the sound some)
[07:56] <|Ryan> Ubuntu 9.04
[07:56] <zortec> Arkhalis: Let me give that a try. :)
[07:56] <zetheroo> seems like none of the screen recording apps really work ... they all have glitches ... what a pain!
[07:57] <unitheory> Apollo2366, sorry, right click the file then click properties then open with.
[07:57] <Arkhalis> zortec: other than that I've got nothing google doesn't so good luck... going on a smoke break. if you need me msg me and i'll get back to you in a few
[07:58] <Apollo2366> Oh ok thanks, unitheory
[07:58] <losher> |Ryan: dunno, I use the command line myself. growisofs  -speed=4 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cdrom=file.iso
[07:59] <|Ryan> losher: And that will burn it to my DVD? 'file.iso' being BackTrack4, in this case?
[07:59] <losher> |Ryan: yep, that's the theory....
[08:00] <loof> Stanley_, : did it error out saying that it required xfree86/xorg in those versions? or just tell you? if you've got a recent install of ubuntu (say, 9.04) you're fine
[08:00] <Arkhalis> zortec: back now lol, that do anything for you?
[08:01] <Stanley_> Loof: okay thanks. It does error out saying I need to exit out of X first though, how do I do that ?
[08:01] <bkraptor> is firefox 3.5 being backported to jaunty?
[08:01] <SyphonSilent> ahh wine is so confusing
[08:02] <darkdelusions> SyphonSilent: how so
[08:02] <unitheory> more inadequate than confusing imho
[08:02] <SyphonSilent> all the repositories and authentication keys lol
[08:02] <SyphonSilent> I dont understand
[08:02] <zortec> Arkhalis: That was a fast smoke break.
[08:04] <loof> Stanley_, : init 3 as root will drop you out of X; obviously if you're in X talking to us here on irc on that machine you're wanting to upgrade the drivers on, then that will kill your X session and all your apps you have open in X
[08:04] <unitheory> SyphonSilent, sudo wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/jaunty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine
[08:04] <unitheory> ;]
[08:05] <SyphonSilent> i wish I understoon what that mean lol
[08:05] <SyphonSilent> thanks =]
[08:05] <Stanley_> Loof: I thought there _was_ no root?
[08:06] <alkamid> hello
[08:06] <Arkhalis> zortec: I'm working right now, bartender. So my smoke breaks are short but sweet
[08:06] <DeCypher1> How do i go about opening a .desktop file?
[08:06] <losher> Stanley_: there is no root password. But there is a root...
[08:06] <loof> you could try "sudo init 3"
[08:06] <alkamid> I have a question concerning 8.10-9.04 upgrade
[08:06] <psychosmose> Bonne nuit ;-) !
[08:06] <alkamid> I have a minimal install of Intrepid
[08:06] <zortec> Arkhalis: Ah :)
[08:06] <DeCypher1> !gdm
[08:07] <alkamid> if I upgrade, will it stay "minimal" ?
[08:07] <Stanley_> losher: how do i get in root then?
[08:07] <Stanley_> loof: sudo init 3 does nothign
[08:07] <zortec> Arkhalis: You have any news on the 9.10 release?
[08:07] <loof> Stanley_, : there is a root account, it's just disabled by default. i'd recommend re-enabling it. if you need to recover your system ever in the future you'll need to know your root password
[08:07] <alkamid> I mean I'm no tsure if it's not going to instlal any addidtional stuff that I simply don't need
[08:08] <DeCypher1> How do i go about opening a .desktop file?
[08:08] <Stanley_> So i'm logged in as root now in terminal and when i type 'init 3' nothing happens
[08:09] <alkamid> anyone?
[08:09] <Stanley_> DeCyper1: I believe a .desktop is just a shortcut
[08:10] <loof> Stanley_, : system->administration->users and groups. you can re-enable root there and assign the root account a password. be aware, you don't want to be running stuff normally as root, it's mostly only for major system upgrades/changes/major software package updates (wine needs to be installed as root, as an example)
[08:11] <Stanley_> loof: yea I have it unlocked and a password set now, so i go into terminal type 'su' enter my password and i'm in root, now i type 'init 3' and _nothing_ happens
[08:11] <Arkhalis> zortec: I don't sorry, again with the been too busy (two jobs and school)
[08:12] <zortec> Arkhalis: No worry, I was just curious
[08:12] <MachinTruc> hi
[08:12] <jerroome> hi
[08:13] <MachinTruc> could someone help me test an installation? i just need you to telnet to <IP_ADDRESS> on port 2223 and tell me if you get a debian prompt
[08:13] <MachinTruc> it works locally but i need to make sure it works from remote hosts before i leave this computer
[08:13] <Arkhalis> zortec: Gotta start closing up which means bed time for me in a bit... see ya later
[08:13] <Arkhalis> Night all~
[08:14] <zortec> Arkhalis: Night man
[08:14] <nzerox> MachinTruc, I?l test it for you
[08:14] <MachinTruc> ok, thx
[08:15] <nzerox> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[08:15] <nzerox> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[08:15] <nzerox> rrajaratnam@webserver:~$
[08:15] <MachinTruc> did you specify port 2223?
[08:15] <nzerox> MachinTruc, I send you result in pm
[08:15] <nzerox> MachinTruc, I did
[08:15] <loof> Stanley_, : er, sorry, try telinit 3
[08:15] <thomthom> How do add a kernel enty to grub
[08:15] <vigo> To clear out all the kernels at boot is a grub thing or CLI thing, there are for or five kernels to choose from now and I think I want to clean that up a bit?
[08:16] <sleepy_cat> ok the question sounds weird .. but i am calling a function repeatedly.. i want an english term which signifies "calling the function again and again"
[08:16] <loof> Stanley_, : it'll kill any graphical ui you have running though
[08:16] <Stanley_> loof: still nothing
[08:16] <jerroome> thomthom you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:16] <loof> and you're in as root?
[08:16] <Stanley_> yea
[08:16] <osxfr33k> Is there a command in the terminal to log all messages that are printed during rpmbuild -bb of the kernel.spec file?  Including all warnings etc?
[08:16] <osxfr33k> echo?
[08:16] <Stanley_> root@my-computer:/#
[08:16] <thomthom> I know that, I need to find the correct information about the kernel
[08:17] <zortec> osxfr33k: For that I'd set up a cron job
[08:17] <mafsi_> loof: or you can install Startup-Manager :)
[08:17] <loof> hmnn
[08:17] <zortec> loof: I second Startup-Manager
[08:17] <osxfr33k> zortec, never used a cron before
[08:17] <jerroome> sleepy_cat if the funtion calls itself, it's recursivly, otherwise, I don't know how to call it ... :)
[08:17] <osxfr33k> so echo will not do the job?
[08:18] <sleepy_cat> no not like that
[08:18] <sleepy_cat> i am calling that function at time 0 then again at time 2 and again at time 5
[08:18] <jerroome> thomthom which correct information ? there can be a lot
[08:18] <Stanley_> loof: let me reboot first and i'll be back and try those commands again
[08:18] <sleepy_cat> so .. i am calling it.. its not recursive
[08:18] <loof> Stanley_, : or you could use startup-manager (i've never used it). i'm pretty sure there's also a keypress (escape maybe?) during boot to give you a list of boot options, of which a console with & without networking is an option
[08:18] <sleepy_cat> how to phrase it in english
[08:18] <unitheory> sleepy_cat, recurring?
[08:19] <sleepy_cat> recurring
[08:19] <sleepy_cat> hmm.. not sure
[08:19] <jerroome> periodic ?
[08:19] <thomthom> when I installed the new kernel through synaptics I was doing something else while and when it asks you what to do with menu.lst I wasn't paying attention and kept the installed version
[08:19] <sleepy_cat> no not periodic
[08:20] <sleepy_cat> i think repeatedly .. sounds more appropriate
[08:20] <bigchris> can anyone tell me what is the best app for desklets/widgets?
[08:20] <sleepy_cat> recurring is also proper
[08:20] <thomthom> I didn't do the thre way merge like I usually do
[08:20] <zortec> loof, Stanley_: You can just use escape during the boot up.
[08:20] <sleepy_cat> what looks better repeatedly or recurringly..
[08:20] <zortec> Oh, for my problem earlier I removed network manager and installed wicd if anyone wants to know
[08:21] <sleepy_cat> the sentence is ".. when the function is called ........."
[08:21] <unitheory> thomthom, you could also probably reinstall the latest kernel, right?
[08:21] <Stanley_> loof: init 3 and telinit 3 are both still not working
[08:21] <vigo> osxfr33k: Logs? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-gnome-system-log-viewer/
[08:21] <jerroome> thomthom, so you just have to look inside /boot to see the version of your new kernel and then add a line with the correct kernel name inside menu.lst
[08:21] <jerroome> where is the problem ?
[08:21] <DeCypher1> How do i rename a GDM Theme
[08:21] <alkamid> I have a question concerning 8.10-9.04 upgrade: I have a minimal install of Intrepid; if I upgrade, will it stay "minimal" ?
[08:21] <alkamid>  I mean I'm no tsure if it's not going to instlal any addidtional stuff that I simply don't need
[08:21] <thomthom> unitheroy: I tried that
[08:22] <zortec> alkamid: It depends what packages you pull in.
[08:22] <loof> Stanley_, : or you could use startup-manager (i've never used it). i'm pretty sure there's also a keypress (escape maybe?) during boot to give you a list of boot options, of which a console with & without networking is an option
[08:22] <alkamid> zortec: what does it mean?
[08:22] <zortec> alkamid: What does 'minimal' mean, is that what you want to know?
[08:22] <vigo> alkamid: Make a good backup now, you cannot go wrong with that.
[08:23] <loof> Stanley: do zortec confirmed, you can hit esc during bootup to get the boot options screen, from there boot to console with networking, and install the driver there as root
[08:23] <lexr> hi
[08:23] <MachinTruc> could someone help me test an installation? i just need you to telnet to <IP_ADDRESS> on port 2223 and tell me if you get a debian prompt
[08:23] <jerroome> thomthom pastebin ls /boot and cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:24] <zortec> MachinTruc: Sure, one second
[08:24] <vigo> !pastebin