[03:39] <jramsey> paul_, i am hesitant to suggest that u install the pkg without looking at the docs ... this pkg is for hedgehog (prior release of U)
[03:39] <rob> ?
[03:39] <yipe> you must not want help very much if you won't go where people speak your language
[03:40] <[C] hris> hi
[03:40] <NickGarvey> rob, the link victorluso posted is very.. inappropriate
[03:40] <paul_> jramsey ok.
[03:40] <wy> hi yipe
[03:40] <[C] hris> Is there a shortcut key to switch Workspaces in Gnome?
[03:40] <jramsey> paul_, it sure sounds like the cat's meow, though
[03:40] <ReWT_AxS> ctrl+alt+arrow keys left and right
[03:40] <yipe> thank you NickGarvey, I was beginning to think there were no controls in here
[03:40] <victorluso> sorry
[03:40] <asdf25> [C] hris: you can set it in System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:40] <pvd2006> Yipe, i am getting the same errors with the tar.gz file:-\
[03:41] <victorluso> some body have wine para ubuntu
[03:41] <yipe> the same one's from my pastebin?
[03:41] <[C] hris> asdf25, thanks
[03:41] <NickGarvey> thank you rob
[03:41] <pvd2006> its trying to find a file called runFrost.sh which doesnt exist
[03:41] <JrbM689> Having some other troubles.  I am using the nVidia GeForce 6200.  I tried TuxRACER but it seems to be moving extremely slowly, like it was before I installed drivers when I was using Knoppmyth.  Any place for the proper up to date drivers?
[03:41] <nalioth> NickGarvey: ?
[03:41] <wy> Do you know why isn't DISPLAY set to my local box when I ssh to a remote computer. I'm sure the sshd_config file has  "X11Forwarding yes"
[03:41] <NickGarvey> nalioth: rob took care of it thank you
[03:42] <paul_> jramsey well thankyou very much anyway.
[03:42] <Linuturk> (9:36:01 PM) Linuturk: I recently moved from windows to linux (Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy) Is there an easy way to migrate my account settings to linux from my portable gaim install on my usb stick?
[03:42] <Linuturk> (9:37:10 PM) Linuturk: beta3 on the usb stick. I'm not sure what version in Ubuntu (probably 1.5, the most recent stable)
[03:42] <rob> well that link was rather odd..
[03:42] <[C] hris> rofl
[03:42] <yipe> hi again Linuturk!
[03:42] <[C] hris> all my apps moved
[03:42] <Linuturk> hi
[03:42] <pvd2006> Yipe, do you want frostwire over limewire?
[03:42] <yipe> yes I do
[03:43] <josejuan> download and install Automatix...
[03:44] <rob> noo!
[03:44] <rob> !automatrix
[03:44] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rob
[03:44] <yipe> limewire is a resource hog
[03:44] <rob> !automatix
[03:44] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:44] <yipe> it uses almost all my RAM and I have a gig!
[03:44] <josejuan> no, work finne
[03:44] <rob> http://help.ubuntu.com -> click the Desktop Guide link
[03:45] <pvd2006> yipe
[03:45] <yipe> yes?
[03:45] <Linuturk> i installed the proper codecs for dvd playback, and dvd's play, but the playback is jumpy. I've enabled dma on my drive, but it's still choppy. anyone have any advice?
[03:45] <pvd2006> so you have ran the limewire for linux already?
[03:45] <yipe> yes
[03:45] <DrBanzai> Is there someplace I can set cedega to not let Ultima Online go into full screen?
[03:45] <pvd2006> linuturk, you need to enable DMA mode for your dvd-rom most likely
[03:45] <pvd2006> oh
[03:45] <pvd2006> nm
[03:45] <pvd2006> lol
[03:46] <pvd2006> sorry
[03:46] <yipe> hehe
[03:46] <Linuturk> heh
[03:46] <NickGarvey> !tell Linuturk about dma
[03:46] <Linuturk> mpeg4's play well
[03:46] <jramsey> sry mind is going; what is cmd to display version of linux?
[03:46] <pvd2006> uname I think
[03:46] <Linuturk> but those encryped dvd's don't. I have dma enabled
[03:46] <Linuturk> on hdc
[03:46] <jramsey> pvd2006, uname -r ... ty!
[03:47] <ReWT_AxS> SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device
[03:47] <ReWT_AxS> what's that mean?
[03:47] <Linuturk> just like the wiki says NickGarvey
[03:47] <Jimmer> !flash
[03:47] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:47] <pvd2006> np
[03:47] <Linuturk> in fact, i ran right down the list on that restricted formats page, and installed almost everything
[03:47] <pvd2006> yipe which limewire did you download for linuxbtw?
[03:48] <yipe> it was hard to find, it was a .deb
[03:48] <pvd2006> yipe, I got mine straight from the limewire website and it works fine.
[03:48] <pvd2006> its the regular/free version
[03:49] <pvd2006> it actually downloads fast
[03:49] <pvd2006> I get like 200-300K downloads off it and usually 100K is my lowest for most files
[03:49] <yipe> mine works fine too, it's just a resource hog
[03:49] <pvd2006> Yeah, limewire is pretty bad with that. its not as bad as the windows version thoguh
[03:49] <NickGarvey> Linuturk: mm not sure what to tell you I'm not much of a gui guy
[03:50] <yipe> yeah
[03:50] <Bobrownik> gui rulz
[03:50] <NickGarvey> Bobrownik: heh linux doesn't play nice on my laptop, so I use ssh with my linux server
[03:51] <Bobrownik> yeah , ssh is for hardcore linuxerz
[03:51] <yipe> ssh?
[03:51] <Bobrownik> we nubs like the gui
[03:52] <void^> use ssh -X
[03:52] <JrbM689> Anything about nvidia drivers?
[03:52] <AngryElf> hey all, i was wondering something about NFS: if i've got 2 shares from one server to a client and i execute a mv from one share to another from the client computer is NFS smart enough to execute the mv on the server or will it run the files through the client?
[03:52] <pvd2006> Yipe, I found something called phex, ANyone know about Phex?
[03:52] <yipe> nope
[03:52] <pvd2006> its a p2p client
[03:53] <wenko> anyone around to help me with an SSH issue?
[03:53] <intelikey> AngryElf through the client
[03:53] <Jimmer> hey, apt-get wants me to install off of the cd, but I don't have it, how can I just get it off line
[03:54] <synic> Jimmer: comment the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <intelikey> Jimmer comment out the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <synic> then apt-get update
[03:54] <josejuan> Fstab for Floppy? what work fine...
[03:55] <Jimmer> thanks
[03:55] <Jimmer> tha tworked
[03:56] <intelikey> yeah the update is optional on that also.
[03:56] <NickGarvey> Jimmer: could you message me with the line that mentions the CD? I want to write a factoid on this
[03:56] <pvd2006> yipe, I think I found the problem!
[03:56] <yipe> YAY!
[03:57] <pvd2006> They built the linux frostwire on windows and it got messed up and so there is a fix for it.
[03:57] <yipe> can you FIX the problem?
[03:57] <pvd2006> ill see right now
[03:57] <yipe> YAY!
[03:58] <Jimmer> NickGarvey, deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[03:58] <yvette> need help, where could i find the file named diskmounter?
[03:58] <TokenBad> in ubuntu there is a way to change like a route ip or something...so that is uses a different dns or something...how do I do that?
[03:58] <mmmiiikkkeee> does any one know a good guild to set up dual monitors with xincama???
[03:58] <mmmiiikkkeee> have been unsuccessful so far
[03:58] <TokenBad> or does anyone know what I am talking about?
[03:58] <jramsey> TokenBad, u try system/admin/network settings and specifiy a new dns svr?
[03:59] <NickGarvey> Jimmer: thank you
[03:59] <Jimmer> np
[03:59] <mmmiiikkkeee> where do i go to set up xincama for dual monitors?
[03:59] <yvette> does anyone know the site of a file named diskmounter
[03:59] <TokenBad> cause what happening is I go to a site and says can't go to it..and I asked and they said something about changing an ip so that is used a different one than the defualt
[04:00] <NickGarvey> !aptcd
[04:00] <ubotu> aptcd is probably <replay>to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:"
[04:00] <NickGarvey> ..
[04:00] <Hexidigital> yvette, it can be found on !ntfs
[04:00] <Hexidigital> !ntfs
[04:00] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
 ?
[04:00] <intelikey> yvette if there is a file on your system named blah  do  "sudo find / -name blah"     and it will find it for you
[04:00] <NickGarvey> yeah I fixed it
[04:00] <NickGarvey> !aptcd
[04:00] <ubotu> to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:"
[04:01] <Hexidigital> yvette http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[04:01] <yvette> ok thanks intel and hexi
[04:01] <Hexidigital> np
[04:01] <b3nw> is there a good gui to edit php code in for ubuntu?
[04:01] <NickGarvey> b3nw: gedit?
[04:02] <aeon17x> !midi
[04:02] <ubotu> it has been said that midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[04:02] <yipe> yoshimi, they don't believe me, but I won't let those robots eat me, yoshimi
[04:02] <Hexidigital> !widgetfactory
[04:02] <ubotu> Hexidigital: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:03] <yipe> her name is yoshimi....
[04:03] <intelikey> brb
[04:03] <yipe> she's a black belt in karate
[04:03] <M3M> Hey guys - I've been working for the last hour or so on installing my Nvidia drivers under Ubuntu.  I think I've got them correctly installed, but does anyone know of a way to test my framerate now w/ something like glxgears?
[04:03] <yipe> workin' for the city, she has to discipline her body
[04:03] <Hexidigital> anyone know the package name for the widget factory?
[04:04] <Hexidigital> i can't seem to locate it
[04:04] <yipe> 'cause she knows that, it's demanded, to defeat those evil machines
[04:04] <pvd2006> yipe
[04:04] <pvd2006> I got it to work
[04:04] <pvd2006> very easy to fix
[04:04] <pvd2006> Yipe, open up a terminal/console
[04:05] <yipe> I know she can beat them, oh yoshimi, the don't beleive me, but you won't let those, robots eat me yoshimi
[04:05] <yipe> okay
[04:05] <wy> Why isn't DISPLAY set to my local box when I ssh to a remote computer. I'm sure the sshd_config file has  "X11Forwarding yes"
[04:05] <pvd2006> yipe copy and paste this,  sudo nano /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh
[04:05] <pvd2006> into the terminal
[04:06] <TokenBad> ok let me ask this way..if I have a site that I can't connect to..and the answer of them was to change some ip..and I know that some have been listed like <IP_ADDRESS> or something...how do I change this ip? and what ip are they talking about?
[04:06] <pvd2006> yipe, did you get any text in that file?
[04:07] <menisk> is darthlappy here?
[04:07] <Linuturk> my sound card has been autodetected. All sounds play fine. My probem is volume control. My Nvidia video chipset has been asigned as my default device for volume control. I need to change this. I've went into System>Preference>Sound, but the second device doesn't show up there. If I right click on the systemtray icon, I can control the sound level through there, but I want to map it to my hardware buttons.
[04:08] <yipe> hang on, brb
[04:08] <pvd2006> k
[04:10] <Linuturk> is there another way to set the default sound device?
[04:10] <NickGarvey> !sound
[04:10] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:10] <NickGarvey> I'd try those
[04:13] <Linuturk> NickGarvey, it's not a problem of getting it to work, it's a problem of setting it as default (since it recoginized my video chipset as audio)
[04:13] <NickGarvey> Linuturk: eh.. thats the best I can do, I don't use a gui, let alone sonud
[04:14] <fiveiron> hey how do i display what devices were detected at startup?
[04:14] <myavuzselim> I am reading xkb and xmodmap docs, I tried some xmodmap scripts. I can't swap 2 keysyms
[04:14] <NickGarvey> myavuzselim: are you trynig to change keymaps?
[04:14] <sethk> myavuzselim, I've done it with xmodmap
[04:15] <sethk> myavuzselim, but it's a bit of a PITA.  there is likely a better way
[04:15] <jramsey> help with the tar cmd to extract the kernel source?? i have tried tar -xf linux-source-2.6.12.tar
[04:15] <mmmiiikkkeee> does any on know how to configure xorg.conf... i added  Option "Xinerama" "on" to the device sections but i still am no havvign any luck wth getting the dual displays to work as one desktop...
[04:15] <mmmiiikkkeee> ?
[04:16] <NickGarvey> jramsey: tar -xvf linux-source I would think, try tossing a sudo in front
[04:16] <asdf25> does anyone know of a way to make the GNOME panel window list always expand to fill up all available space? having it always make itself really small for no apparant reason is really annoying me
[04:16] <pvd2006> Hmm, I seem to be getting slower downloads on frostwire
[04:16] <fiveiron> hey how do i display what devices were detected at startup?
[04:16] <NickGarvey> jramsey: man tar I bet would help
[04:16] <NickGarvey> fiveiron: they would be in /etc/rc?.d or/etc/init.d
[04:16] <jramsey> NickGarvey, been man'ing ... but ur cmd did it ... it's untarring like mad ty ...
[04:16] <NickGarvey> fiveiron: oh devices.
[04:17] <NickGarvey> jramsey: I think it was working before, but just didn't show you that it was working
[04:17] <NickGarvey> jramsey: the v is verbose I assume
[04:17] <myavuzselim> NickGarvey, keymaps = scancodes -> logical values I suppose? If so, yes.
[04:17] <pvd2006> nevermind, frostwire is fine.
[04:17] <mmmiiikkkeee>  Option "Xinerama" "on" is supose to go in the device secition right?
[04:17] <jramsey> NickGarvey, probably; it's a huge tar and the v gives me some comfort
[04:17] <fiveiron> NickGarvey: yeah... like i have a logitech webcam... and i want to see where it was detected at
[04:17] <asdf25> ok, i'll answer my own question... set the minimum size manually to whatever fills up the whole panel
[04:18] <NickGarvey> myavuzselim: oh no I meant like from us to spanish or something
[04:18] <NickGarvey> asdf25: :)
[04:18] <yipe> okay I'm back
[04:18] <yipe> pvd2006,  what's the deal?
[04:18] <myavuzselim> my keyboard layout is correct, but some combinations are annoying
[04:18] <pvd2006> Wb, Yipe
[04:18] <pvd2006> alright
[04:18] <yipe> thank you
[04:18] <pvd2006> type this into terminal,  sudo nano /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh
[04:18] <jageye> can someone tell me how to remove a module?
[04:18] <NickGarvey> myavuzselim: yeah.. you trying to switch ctrl and capslock for example?
[04:18] <kfarrell> Hiyas, I just did an apt-get kdein dapper, I like it a lot. But it seems to be missing the incremental search in KMenu? Any one know how to enable this kick ass feature?
[04:19] <myavuzselim> I have to use alt-gr for {}[]  keys, and its bad for programming
[04:19] <jramsey> ok this is the last step from wiki to be able to build kernel code (and modules); sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  **what does -$(uname -r) do??
[04:19] <jramsey> oops
[04:19] <NickGarvey> jramsey: that tells you the version number
[04:19] <La_PaRCa> kfarrell, should have installed kubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <jramsey> nevermind i figured it
[04:19] <NickGarvey> jramsey: :)
[04:19] <pvd2006> Yipe, I meant copy and paste it
[04:19] <jramsey> NickGarvey, txs
[04:19] <yipe> okay.... now what?
[04:19] <pvd2006> alright now
[04:19] <yipe> right
[04:19] <yipe> I did that
[04:19] <pvd2006> hit, control + o
[04:19] <Rat> A friend of mine just recently installed ubuntu on his pc and turned off one of his SATA hard drives to make surte he didnt overwrite any of his ntfs files. So can anyone tell me how you would go about mounting that hard drive at startup for ubuntu so he can play with his other ntfs hard drive... Does he have to modify /etc/fstab or some other file or would it be mount something...
[04:19] <Rat> ?
[04:20] <arrick> hey guys, if startx starts ubuntu-desktop, what turns it off from terminal?
[04:20] <kfarrell> La_PaRCa, oh, ok I'll do that now
[04:20] <NickGarvey> jageye: http://man-wiki.net/index.php/2:delete_module is what you want I think, in the future I think google would be pretty quick
[04:20] <myavuzselim> NickGarvey, ctrl<->capslock is well documented.
[04:20] <La_PaRCa> Rat, if he wants it to mount automatically everytime he should modify fstab
[04:20] <M3M> Rat, Yes he does have to modify his fstab if he would like it to mount each time he boots his computer
[04:20] <jramsey> NickGarvey, where will apt-get install the linux headers??
[04:20] <La_PaRCa> ubotu tell kfarrell about kubuntu
[04:20] <yipe> okay
[04:20] <pvd2006> Yipe, do you see how it says its a Dos-file, we want to change that so right after you hit control + o you want to hit alt + d then hit enter to save it
[04:20] <Rat> Can you guys tell me how that would be ?
[04:20] <NickGarvey> jramsey: uh no idea, but you can do a find command,  "find -name *headers*
[04:20] <M3M> Rat, Does he have any trouble right now mounting the filesystem when he wants to?
[04:21] <NickGarvey> jramsey: or something along those lines heh
[04:21] <jramsey> NickGarvey, ok txs
[04:21] <Rat> M3M: What do you mean ?
[04:21] <yipe> okay, I did that and [DOS file]  popped up, is that okay?
[04:21] <Rat> M3M, I have told him to do the following mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 ...
[04:21] <Rat> That did not work
[04:21] <arrick> anyone, if startx starts ubuntu-desktop, what turns it off from terminal?
[04:21] <pvd2006> Yipe, as long as you hit alt + d to make it not say dos file anymore
[04:22] <M3M> Rat: so long as he has NTFS support built into the kernel than it should automatically detect the filesystem
[04:22] <yipe> and then overwrite?
[04:22] <pvd2006> yes
[04:22] <La_PaRCa> Rat, are you sure the device is sda2?
[04:22] <M3M> Rat: he should be able to type in something like "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/`mountpoint`"
[04:22] <kfarrell> cool thanks La_PaRCa, it's nice to be answered with respect and patience. Ubuntu Community rocks.
[04:22] <yipe> now what?
[04:22] <Rat> to configure his kernel would it be cd /usr/src ?
[04:22] <pvd2006> then exit and type in
[04:22] <Rat> M3M: Yeah
[04:22] <pvd2006> frostwire
[04:22] <M3M> of course he does have to be root to do so.
[04:22] <Rat> yes
[04:22] <NickGarvey> arrick: I believe sudo killall gdm would do it
[04:23] <NickGarvey> arrick: or kdm if you use kde display manager
[04:23] <yipe> .... it didn't work
[04:23] <yipe> I don't get errors now... I just get nothing
[04:23] <pvd2006> yipe ok lets try it again
[04:23] <La_PaRCa> Rat, I believe the ubuntu kernels come with ntfs support out of the box.
[04:23] <dibblego> is it possible to move all your home directories over to another disk?
[04:23] <arrick> I use the -ubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <yipe> okay
[04:23] <pvd2006> im going to /msg you
[04:23] <_jason> yipe, pvd2006: there is a command to do that for you
[04:23] <Rat> La_PaRCa: Alright
[04:23] <NickGarvey> arrick: "sudo killall gdm"
[04:24] <La_PaRCa> Rat, are you sure it is located in sda2?
[04:24] <solid_liq> anyone know what tools I need to develop applications for the Treo 650?
[04:24] <Rat> La_PaRCa: Talking to him on the phone... lol ... He says he isnt sure...
[04:24] <_jason> yipe: sudo aptitude install sysutils && sudo dos2unix /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh
[04:24] <M3M> tell him to type in "cat /proc/filesystems"
[04:24] <Rat> hahaha
[04:24] <yipe> just put in all that?
[04:24] <pvd2006> yipe, you can do that
[04:24] <La_PaRCa> Rat, ok, should be pretty obvious if he does a "sudo fdisk -l"
[04:24] <pvd2006> you dont have to though
[04:24] <M3M> Rat: he should be able to see NTFS somewhere on that list.
[04:25] <jramsey> NickGarvey, in source do you know how the compiler finds #Include <linux\...> ?? i mean is "linux" a symb. link??
[04:25] <Rat> La_PaRCa: That is what i though to
[04:25] <jageye> i need to replace amd64_agp module with nvidia_agp any one know how?
[04:25] <_jason> yipe: yeah just like that
[04:25] <yipe> okay, I did it, a bunch of stuff happened
[04:25] <La_PaRCa> Rat, Remember to mount he must be root, and the target directory must exist.
[04:25] <Rat> I told him to do that... Who knows
[04:25] <_jason> yipe: now try frostwire
[04:25] <yipe> okay
[04:25] <Rat> La_PaRCa Yeah
[04:25] <yipe> .... nothing:(
[04:25] <yipe> zero
[04:25] <yipe> zip
[04:25] <pvd2006> all you have to do is sudo nano /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh, control + o, then control + d right afterwords, then hit enter, and exit out
[04:25] <yipe> the null set
[04:25] <_jason> yipe: no error?
[04:26] <yipe> no error
[04:26] <La_PaRCa> Rat, then he should have no problem. Unless you have a more specific error, I think thats all we can do for now.
[04:26] <pvd2006> sorry I meant alt + d
[04:26] <_jason> yipe: were you getting an error before?
[04:26] <yipe> yes
[04:26] <wy> This board has too many people
[04:26] <_jason> yipe: heh you have sun java?
[04:26] <yipe> it sure does wy
[04:26] <yipe> I think I did the other one, the one that says it's the easiest on the wiki page
[04:26] <pvd2006> Yipe, yeah do you have sun java?
[04:26] <NickGarvey> jramsey: I don't totally understand.
[04:26] <_jason> yipe: what does java -version say?
[04:27] <wy> We should break it into parts. Why isn't there a Xwindow channel?
[04:27] <yipe> java version "1.4.2-02"
[04:27] <yipe> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[04:27] <yipe> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)
[04:27] <yipe> right there
[04:27] <La_PaRCa> wy, there is. #xorg
[04:27] <jramsey> NickGarvey, ok in C source there are includes like #include <linux/math.h> is "linux" a sumbolically linked folder? u know what i mean?? with ln?
[04:27] <Rat> La_PaRCa and M3M: Thanks... It looks like im heading over there tomorrow anyway... So I should be able to detect the problem
[04:27] <Rat> Thanks though
[04:27] <fiveiron> how do i display what devices were detected at startup?
[04:27] <pvd2006> yipe, you need to get sun java, perhaps _Jason knows a short cut
[04:27] <La_PaRCa> Rat, we'll be here all week ;P
[04:28] <yipe> okay.... I'll just follow the wiki
[04:28] <intelikey> fiveiron dmesg
[04:28] <La_PaRCa> yipe, what do you need specifically from sun java?
[04:28] <_jason> yipe: easiest to use seveas' repos
[04:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell yipe about seveas
[04:28] <yipe> I don't know La_PaRCa
[04:28] <pvd2006> _Jason what are the repo addresses?
[04:28] <La_PaRCa> yipe, what kind of problem were you having?
[04:28] <Spring_sphere> Is there some way for me to set my computer up to wake me up?
[04:28] <Rat> La_PaRCa: LoL... Thanks, im praying that if I can install gentoo; I can surely figure this problem out
[04:28] <Rat> lol
[04:28] <yipe> I can't run frostwire
[04:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell pvd2006 about seveas
[04:29] <yipe> what is seveas? Don't confuse me with too much information
[04:29] <pvd2006> yipe, you know of the synaptic package manager right?
[04:29] <_jason> yipe: it's a repository like universe for example, except it's called seveas
[04:29] <yipe> yes
[04:29] <wy> #xorg is not active. It seems most people still like crowed channel like this one
[04:29] <intelikey> Spring_sphere at
[04:29] <yipe> and what do I need from it?
[04:29] <NickGarvey> jramsey: yes I understand, but I know nothing about the compiler, I don't program although I know some of the very basics of C
[04:29] <pvd2006> yipe, its just an extra address to get more packages from
[04:30] <M3M> Rat: Good deal.  If he doesn't have ntfs support installed when you cat /filesystems you can apt-get libntfs-dev for ntfs access
[04:30] <_jason> yipe: you need the package called sun-j2re1.5
[04:30] <yipe> okay
[04:30] <Rat> M3M: The only issue is that he has dial-up... EEEEEK
[04:30] <wy> Anyone knows about a good groupware? We tried phpgroupware but it's not very good
[04:31] <jramsey> NickGarvey, ok txs i'll go check out the gcc docs maybe it's in there; txs for ur help
[04:31] <arrick> he NickGarvey it didnt work
[04:31] <M3M> Rat, well it'll be okay - I think the libntfs-dev package is only like 600K or so... it'll probably take 5 minutes to download
[04:32] <Rat> M3M: Alright, thanks for your information
[04:32] <NickGarvey> arrick: sudo killall gdm
[04:32] <intelikey> 600k about 1.2 minutes
[04:32] <NickGarvey> arrick: didn't work?
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> howdy all...
[04:33] <intelikey> nomasteryoda
[04:33] <arrick> nope
[04:33] <arrick> NickGarvey, nope
[04:33] <myavuzselim> I tried to describe my problem better: http://paste.lisp.org/display/18970
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> quick question about copying a partition ... one Dapper to a Breezy... i ran out of space in the dapper partition
[04:34] <NickGarvey> arrick: could you put the output of "ps ax" on pastebin
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> can i do it with relative ease? I know the fstab will need repair .. but everything is in hda7 and needs to be in hda2 which is bigger
[04:34] <yipe> okay, I downloaded and dpkg -i'ed it
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> does that make sense?
[04:34] <pvd2006> _jason, where is sources.list at again?
[04:35] <arrick> NickGarvey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12212
[04:35] <_jason> pvd2006: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:35] <pvd2006> /etc/apt alrgiht
[04:35] <pvd2006> thanks
[04:35] <yipe> now do I try running frostwire again?
[04:35] <_jason> yipe: type 'frostwire'
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> i know dd can work on a running system, but will it work for such a copy?
[04:35] <yipe> ..... nothing
[04:35] <intelikey> nomasteryoda yes.    best to use a tar pipe probably
[04:35] <yipe> >.<
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> how?
[04:36] <NickGarvey> arrick: try "sudo killall startx"
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> never done that
[04:36] <yipe> brb
[04:36] <intelikey> nomasteryoda "tar -cf - /mnt/olddrive | tar -xf - -C /mnt/newdrivetty23"
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> i usually do dd if=/dev/part1 of=/dev/part2
[04:36] <arrick> thanks NickGarvey
[04:36] <arrick> it worked
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> intelikey, so that is quicker?
[04:36] <Rat> Kill startx by just doing Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[04:36] <mmmiiikkkeee> ok i posted my xorg.conf to pastbin... how do i link to that so that some one can tell me whats wrong with it?
[04:37] <intelikey> nomasteryoda not as fast probably but it won't resize the partition either  :)
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> oh... so it will just compress, then extract it back into the new larger ... ic... first one is 3gb ...target is 15gb
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> intelikey, i would guess ghost or trueimage would do it faster, but they are $$$
[04:38] <intelikey> nomasteryoda dd will make an exact copy of the partition.   i.e. same size.    a tar pipe preserves links and permissions but actually copies the files
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> cool
[04:39] <Rat> mmmiiikkkeee: Either copy and paste the link here or type the link
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> well, let me free some space and try it
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> =D
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> thanks
[04:39] <intelikey> np
[04:39] <mmmiiikkkeee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12211
[04:39] <mmmiiikkkeee> that one?
[04:40] <Rat> mmmiiikkkeee: What is the issue?
[04:40] <mmmiiikkkeee> the dual monator is not set up right
[04:40] <yipe> okay.... I'm still getting nothing:(
[04:41] <mmmiiikkkeee> i cant drag things to the other one...
[04:41] <mmmiiikkkeee> there compleatly seperate
[04:42] <mmmiiikkkeee> i want it to be one gib desktop
[04:42] <mmmiiikkkeee> why does  Option "Xinerama" "on"
[04:42] <mmmiiikkkeee> not do any thing???
[04:42] <onephatmind> hey guys
[04:42] <pvd2006> yipe, did you find the java package?
[04:42] <Rat> mmmiiikkkeee: Hmmm... Not familiar with setting up dual display
[04:42] <yipe> yes
[04:42] <onephatmind> my first run for ubuntu; trying to apt-get install k3b
[04:42] <yipe> and installed it
[04:42] <onephatmind> it says k3b is not available
[04:42] <mmmiiikkkeee> where do i go to figure it out.. ihave been googling an goolong it but no luck :(
[04:42] <yipe> with dpkg -i
[04:43] <yipe> this is making me sad:(
[04:43] <pvd2006> installed it with dpkg? I dont think you need to do that if it is in synaptic manager
[04:43] <Rat> mmmiiikkkeee: Try this link out http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[04:43] <mmmiiikkkeee> thanks
[04:43] <onephatmind> worse than that -- apt-get install k3b-mp3 reports failed dependencies which defeats the whole point of apt-get and debs doesnt it?
[04:43] <intelikey> !javadeb
[04:44] <pvd2006> _jason, you dont have to install it with dpkg since its in a repository right?
[04:44] <yipe> oh, I didn't actually add the repository, I followed the link, downloaded the one I needed and dpkg -i'ed it
[04:44] <Rat> mmmiiikkkeee: No problem, sorry I couldn't help you out anymore.
[04:44] <_jason> pvd2006: right
[04:44] <yipe> that's okay right?
[04:44] <TokenBad> ok let me ask this way..if I have a site that I can't connect to..and the answer of them was to change some ip..and I know that some have been listed like <IP_ADDRESS> or something...how do I change this ip? and what ip are they talking about?
[04:44] <Hexidigital> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12213 ... can someone help me with my /etc/fstab?  i need to mount a disk drive that is not automatically being mounted
[04:44] <intelikey> !tell yipe about javadeb
[04:45] <yipe> ohhhh yoshimi, they don't believe me, but I won't let those robots eat me yoshimi....
[04:45] <jerry> bot still functioning need a command
[04:45] <rlorenz> hello folks, i have some noob questions for ya.. i just installed ubuntu and i was wondering how i mount my windows partition? i thought it would automagically mount it to /windows/C but it didnt..
[04:45] <pvd2006> yipe
[04:45] <yipe> intelikey, I already installed that
[04:45] <yipe> are you saying using dpkg was wrong?
[04:45] <pvd2006> yipe, did you try typing frostwire into terminal?
[04:45] <yipe> yes
[04:45] <yipe> a million times
[04:45] <yipe> and I get no feedback what so ever
[04:45] <pvd2006> and it just did nothing, no message
[04:46] <pvd2006> hmmm
[04:47] <rebelfallen> Hey guys. How can I change the ssh port with openssh? My fedora machine runs on the same router, so I need to port forward to a different port if I want to ssh into ubuntu from outside
[04:47] <pvd2006> yipe, what does java --version say now?
[04:47] <rlorenz> i have an icon on my desktop called "sda1" and i'm assuming that is my windows partition, but it's owned by root, and i don't have permission to view the contents.. how do i set it so it's owned by my user account instead of root?
[04:47] <_jason> I just tried frostwire with blackdown, and it works.  So that doesn't seem to be the problem
[04:47] <intelikey>  /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh is in the 4.10.9 release is in dos format, and should be converted to 'nix format using dos2unix
[04:47] <yipe>  can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:48] <yipe> oops
[04:48] <yipe> sorry
[04:48] <yipe> java version "1.4.2-02"
[04:48] <yipe> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[04:48] <yipe> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)
[04:48] <onephatmind> uhm, after install on toshiba m45 ubuntu 5.1 recognized both the wired and wireless nics but could not get ips via dhcp; it couldnt TX_POWER the ipw2200 wireless card; assigning a static ip would not do anything for either device.
[04:48] <_jason> yipe: try removing frostwire and then installing the deb again (and then doing 'sudo dos2unix /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh')
[04:48] <yipe> okay
[04:49] <_jason> yipe: actually wait
[04:49] <philc> do you have to restart epiphany to have new greasemonkey scripts picked up?
[04:49] <jerry> ok quick question what do i need to do if the terminal window wont start up
[04:49] <onephatmind> after booting with acpi=of everything works like a champ; any thoughts as to why that would happen?
[04:49] <yipe> by "the .deb" you mean the frostwire deb, not java, right?
[04:49] <_jason> yipe: sudo update-alternatives --config java, choose sun java
[04:49] <rlorenz> i have an icon on my desktop called "sda1" and i'm assuming that is my windows partition, but it's owned by root, and i don't have permission to view the contents.. how do i set it so it's owned by my user account instead of root?
[04:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell rlorenz about ntfs
[04:49] <rlorenz> thx jason
[04:50] <yipe> okay
[04:50] <intelikey> jerry  use  [alt] +[f2]   enter gnome-terminal   (assuming default install)
[04:50] <_jason> yipe: does frostwire still fail?
[04:50] <yipe> yes:(
[04:50] <oknewbie> Has anyone here had any luck sharing a printer with a Winbox?
[04:51] <yipe> but my java -version stuff changed
[04:51] <PhoenixGI> Hello all
[04:52] <_jason> yipe: try removing frostwire then and reinstalling, maybe something got messed up when you were trying to fix it before
[04:52] <yipe> hi phoenix
[04:52] <yipe> okay
[04:52] <fiveiron> anyone have a logitech quickcam?
[04:52] <onephatmind> i am sorry; are my messages going through at all? just making sure;)
[04:52] <yipe> yes they are onephatmind
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> intelikey, hey, something happened to that command i had ... can you post again?
[04:52] <_jason> onephatmind: uh huh
[04:52] <onephatmind> hehe thanks
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> the piping of dd
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> thanks
[04:52] <intelikey> onephatmind no.
[04:52] <oknewbie> yipe make sure you delete the frostwire config file first
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> i was completely out of space
[04:52] <onephatmind> got the point already;)
[04:53] <yipe> what?
[04:53] <nomasteryoda|w> using ssh to get going on xchat
[04:53] <onephatmind> has anybody use ubuntu in production?
[04:53] <yipe> can't I just do a complete removal in synaptic?
[04:53] <_jason> yipe: yes
[04:53] <yipe> thank you jason
[04:53] <task> hi all, i was wondering if thers eny solution for samsung monitors drivers, for get a refershrate over 60 htz
[04:54] <oknewbie> in your home folder you should have a .frostwire  or somthing to that effect delete it before you reinstall other wise you will have the same messed up settings
[04:54] <nomasteryoda|w> task, you just have to keep looking
[04:54] <nomasteryoda|w> the answer to that is out there somewhere in google
[04:54] <oknewbie> no
[04:54] <task> can't finde nothing on google
[04:54] <oknewbie> a complete romval will not get
[04:54] <unforcer> Hey, how to I get flashplayer installed? flashplayer-nonfree is removed from repo?
[04:54] <nomasteryoda|w> intelikey, you still here?
[04:54] <yipe> well.... it did
[04:54] <nomasteryoda|w> i lost that command string
[04:54] <yipe> 'cause there's no file there
[04:54] <_jason> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[04:55] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[04:55] <oknewbie> you told it to show hidden files ?
[04:55] <_jason> unforcer: have you enabled multiverse?
[04:55] <unforcer> _jason: ou sorry.. I am running dapper
[04:55] <intelikey> task   look up your monitor on   http://monitorworld.com   and input the v/h rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:55] <intelikey> nomasteryoda yes
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[04:55] <intelikey> second.
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> that's a good url there
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[04:56] <intelikey> tar -cf - /mnt/olddrive | tar -xf - -C /mnt/newdrive
[04:56] <onephatmind> task, did you try a generic lcd with your specs?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[04:56] <_jason> unforcer: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please, but flashplugin-nonfree is still there according to ubotu (/msg ubotu info flashplugin-nonfree dapper)
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> this time its in my main desktop logs
[04:56] <task> i'v got a samsung 795mb
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[04:56] <task> nothing on http://monitorworld.com/
[04:57] <intelikey> task you did search there ?
[04:57] <task> _jason: my mon is not lcd
[04:57] <oknewbie> Any Samba Guru's Present??
[04:57] <_jason> task: hmm?
[04:57] <task> _jason: sory, wrogn person
[04:57] <yipe> well how do I do that then oknewbie ?
[04:57] <task> onephatmind: my mon is not lcd
[04:57] <onephatmind> task, k crt then
[04:58] <task> how do i installthem?
[04:58] <task> do i have to install video card first?
[04:58] <pvd2006> yipe
[04:58] <oknewbie> yipe hold on a minute
[04:58] <onephatmind> task, generic; which are you having a problem with? the screne or the video chip?
[04:58] <pvd2006> yipe, goto cd /$HOME
[04:58] <yipe> okay
[04:58] <onephatmind> task, screen that is; sorry
[04:59] <oknewbie> yipe are you in gnome?
[04:59] <pvd2006> yipe, now type in ls -a
[04:59] <pvd2006> see if you see a .frostwire
[04:59] <task> onephatmind: i cant set 75htz at 1280x1024, allthoug my monitor suportit
[04:59] <oxez> hi, when I try to install libgtk2.0-dev, I get this:  Depends: libxfixes-dev but it is not going to be installed. How can I go over that?
[04:59] <yipe> yeah, there's no frostwire file there
[04:59] <oknewbie> mmm
[05:00] <_deadlycow21> odd
[05:00] <yipe> so now reinstall frostwire?
[05:00] <oknewbie> sure
[05:00] <onephatmind> task, generic 1600x1200
[05:00] <intelikey> task  check with just searching   samsung   and see if any of the five links are usable for what you have.
[05:00] <_deadlycow21> it says i can't join #ubunutu... but i just did...
[05:00] <yipe> okay
[05:00] <intelikey> at monitorworld.com
[05:00] <oknewbie> I am going to check some stuff while you do
[05:00] <yipe> okay
[05:01] <pvd2006> Yipe, sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb , again
[05:01] <task> all: really can't find nothing on google
[05:02] <yipe> okay,
[05:02] <mzuverink> What do I need to do to login a a user in webmin?
[05:02] <pvd2006> yipe, got it installed?
[05:02] <yipe> now what was that long complicated de-DOS command?
[05:02] <yipe> yes
[05:02] <pvd2006> ok nopw
[05:02] <pvd2006> now
[05:02] <intelikey> at any rate, task; when you put the correct vsync and href rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf   then the settings will work.
[05:02] <pvd2006> try to just run frostwire
[05:02] <yipe> yeah I got all those errors I got at the beginning again
[05:03] <yipe> de-DOSify?
[05:03] <pvd2006> yipe, copy and paste the errors you get into pastebin real quick so I can look
[05:03] <pvd2006> I want to make sure htey are the same errors I Got
[05:03] <yipe> okay
[05:03] <skpl> can someone tell me what this command is supposed to say? sudo apt-get build-essential
[05:03] <skpl> i know im close but it's not it
[05:03] <oknewbie> yipe were did you get your deb
[05:03] <skpl> its the command to grab all the essential packages
[05:03] <intelikey>  /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh is in the 4.10.9 release is in dos format, and should be converted to 'nix format using dos2unix
[05:03] <task> intelikey: what setting to insert there?!
[05:03] <yipe> the frostwire page
[05:03] <onephatmind> i am sorry but how can k3b not be available? going to Apps->Add Apps->Search for k3b->click the cute checkbox nags that k3b is not available; why why?
[05:03] <pvd2006> build-essentials?
[05:04] <droazen> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:04] <skpl> what is the command? i forget
[05:04] <skpl> install
[05:04] <skpl> thank you
[05:04] <droazen> yw :)
[05:04] <intelikey> task that is why i sent you to monitorworld.com   search for samsung    or go to samsong.com  and see if you can find it there.
[05:04] <mzuverink> How do I set up a user and password for webmin?
[05:04] <pvd2006> yipe, can you give me a link to the pastebin
[05:04] <_jason> yipe: 'sudo dos2unix /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh'
[05:04] <yipe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12215
[05:04] <pvd2006> from ubuntu
[05:04] <pvd2006> ok thanks
[05:04] <yipe> yeah, it takes a second:P
[05:04] <pvd2006> yipe, ok good you got the same exact errors
[05:04] <yipe> I'm not a wizard, I have to move my mouse and fingers, and type stuff
[05:04] <pvd2006> I know how to fix that
[05:05] <yipe> okay
[05:05] <yipe> run that command jason just gave?
[05:05] <pvd2006> yeah you can do that
[05:05] <unforcer> arrghh.. flashplayer/plugin for firefox is still not working
[05:05] <_jason> yipe: it's equivalent, but you can use nano and alt-d too if you want to try instead
[05:05] <intelikey> task the two lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf are;
[05:05] <intelikey>     HorizSync 31.5-35.1
[05:05] <intelikey>     VertRefresh 50-61
[05:05] <pvd2006> it does the same thing
[05:05] <intelikey> example
[05:06] <intelikey> when they are correct for your monitor task, then all will be well
[05:06] <task> but there the limit is 60 htz!
[05:06] <yipe> ALLAHU AKBAR!
[05:07] <pvd2006> yipe, it works?
[05:07] <yipe> it works it works!
[05:07] <pvd2006> hehe cool
[05:07] <ThinkL00p> how would I find out what driver ubuntu is using for the eth1 interface.. because its a wireless card, and its showing eth1 and it doesn't show it as a wireless card.. just an ethernet card
[05:07] <intelikey> task  NO!   the limit is what ever your monitor can handle.
[05:07] <pvd2006> Yipe, btw the first time you frostwire its going to hash all your shared fires
[05:07] <pvd2006> files
[05:07] <oknewbie> Is there a better way for sharing printers with windows then using samba?
[05:07] <noiesmo> ThinkL00p, ifconfig -a
[05:07] <pvd2006> so it might be slow for the first minute or so
[05:07] <task> mm ok
[05:07] <yipe> that's fine
[05:07] <pvd2006> don't share too many files, yipe
[05:07] <yipe> why?
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> glad i dont' have my main ubuntu home in that partiton... =D
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> thanks intelikey
[05:08] <pvd2006> it hashes them all which takes up processor resources
[05:08] <intelikey>    HorizSync 25-55
[05:08] <task> intelikey: so, i enter in /etc/X11/xorg.conf are; horizSync 31.5-35.1 VertRefresh 50-61, and all ok??
[05:08] <intelikey>      VertRefresh 50-90
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> this should be piece of cakey
[05:08] <ThinkL00p> noiesmo, it's showing eth1 Link encap: Unspec
[05:08] <yipe> so I should..... ?
[05:08] <intelikey> task.  no that was my monitor.  you need the numbers for yours.
[05:09] <pvd2006> yipe, just dont put too many files in your shared folder, you can create a seperate download folder in options
[05:09] <task> difficult data to find :(
[05:09] <intelikey> task that is why i sent you to monitorworld.com
[05:09] <task> nothing there
[05:09] <skpl> can someoen tell me why i cannot connect to my machine via ftp even though i have proftpd installed?
[05:09] <nava> what command could i type to see the version of my kernel?
[05:09] <intelikey> check samsong.com task ?
[05:09] <arrick1> permissions baby
[05:10] <arrick1> no user name associated with the ftp folder
[05:10] <nomasteryoda|w> skpl, you got it... permissons
[05:10] <intelikey> nava uname -r
[05:10] <yipe> okay, that makes sense
[05:10] <skpl> nomasteryoda|w, what do you mean? how do i fix it?
[05:10] <task> nothing there too :(
[05:10] <skpl> arrick1, how do i associate a user name with my ftp folder if you do not mind me asking?
[05:11] <nava> thanks intelikey
[05:11] <intelikey> task then go back to  Post form to http://monitorworld.com/cgi-bin/monitorsearch.pl   and start testing.
[05:11] <richard> imbrandon: fluxbox is not recognizing my sound devices, but i can listen to songs in xmms just in gnome just fine, do u know what is causing this?
[05:12] <Hoochie> hello, what format HDD does ubuntu install on to?
[05:12] <intelikey> task samsung  in the search box.
[05:12] <yipe> ummm, what do you mean hoochie?
[05:12] <ZeZu> 0x83
[05:12] <arrick1> you need to set up your /etc/proftpd.conf
[05:13] <arrick1> then create a user for it if you want anonymous access
[05:13] <Hoochie> i have partition magic in front of me and will make a partition for ubuntu, choices are NTFS fat fat32  etc etc
[05:13] <Apostle^> Hoochie: what do you mean
[05:13] <Apostle^> Hoochie: ext3 is a good choice
[05:13] <pvd2006> hoochie linux is ext3
[05:13] <pvd2006> and then you need a swap partition
[05:13] <Apostle^> pvd2006: you can use FAT32 on linux also
[05:13] <arrick1> but even with your current setup, you can type<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:13] <zubov_>  Hoochie ext2 or ext4
[05:13] <zubov_> grr
 hoochie linux is ext3  ?
[05:13] <zubov_> ext3 that is
[05:13] <yipe> I think I'm using etx2
[05:13] <arrick1> and you will open your home directory on it
[05:14] <yipe> that's what it says at bootup at least
[05:14] <Apostle^> pvd2006: linux can be alot more than just ext3
[05:14] <richard> imbrandon: have you ever encountered this problem on any of your machines running fluxbox?
[05:14] <pvd2006> i mean ext3 works on linux
[05:14] <Hoochie> hehe ok  ext 3 i choose then
[05:14] <Hoochie> cheers all ^^
[05:14] <mzuverink> anyone got an idea on how to login to webmin?
[05:14] <skpl> can someone help me with proftpd? i am having trouble connecting to my machine, i get a connection refused
[05:14] <whyameye_> what are the legalities of using ubuntu inside a proprietary product? Any links that talk about this?
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> http://localhost:someportnumber
[05:14] <intelikey> ubuntu defaults to  ext3   but linux  can a number of fs types.   ext2  ext3  rieserfs   and other more exotic fs's
[05:14] <oknewbie> hoochie your swap needs to be 1.5 times your ram
[05:15] <intelikey> s/can/can use/
[05:15] <floppyears> hi
[05:15] <Apostle^> skpl: have you opend the port using firestarter ? and if you have a router have you forwarded the port
[05:15] <yipe> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:15] <floppyears> if I touch a file and gave it a past time stamp
[05:15] <pvd2006> yipe, ?
[05:15] <Hoochie> wht 1.5 ?
[05:15] <pvd2006> ha
[05:15] <yipe> yes?
[05:15] <noiesmo> mzuverink, webimin uses port 9000 or 9001 by default its been a while you can then login as root http://localhost:9001
[05:15] <floppyears> could I still find out what was its creation time or when somebody touched it ?
[05:15] <Hoochie> so 3 gb
[05:15] <pvd2006> yipe;)
[05:15] <yipe> I'm completely open source again
[05:16] <noiesmo> mzuverink, or wait was it 10000 dam I know when last use i set to port 9001
[05:16] <intelikey> ls -l    displays time
[05:16] <pvd2006> yipe, did you just install ubuntu?
[05:16] <Android_D> I am trying to compile a run a simple C program in ubuntu.  It is so simple that it contatins a main method and a printf line.  I can compile this code no problem in ubuntu (using "gcc -o test test.c"), however when I run the compiled code there is not output appearing.  Does anyone know why this is so?  Could it perhaps be because I am using the terminal window (I don
[05:16] <Apostle^> Hoochie: thats a waste, you have 1.5gb of ram ?
[05:16] <Android_D> 't think this should be the case
[05:16] <yipe> well.... I guess not completely..... stupid mp3, DVD, java, WMV, realmedia, etc
[05:16] <yipe> a week ago
[05:16] <Apostle^> Hoochie: if you have 1.5Gb ram you don't really need a swap, i run swapless with 1gig but most people would recommend 512MB of swap still..
[05:16] <yipe> oh.... I think maybe almost two weeks now
[05:16] <pvd2006> 3gigs of swap space is a lot.
[05:16] <Apostle^> it's a waste
[05:17] <Hoochie> oh ok
[05:17] <pvd2006> yipe, that is cool, run any linux distros before this?
[05:17] <yipe> never
[05:17] <yipe> oh wait, that's not true
[05:17] <pvd2006> yipe, same here.
[05:17] <yipe> Knoppix
[05:17] <oknewbie> sorry didnt think you would have that kind of ram
[05:17] <yipe> and ubuntu and kubuntu off live CDs
[05:17] <Hoochie> how big do you recomend my linux partition to be?
[05:17] <intelikey> floppyears ls -l     but i don't know an easy way to check the creation time...
[05:17] <rebelfallen> At least 3 gigs
[05:17] <mzuverink> noiesmo: webmin uses https:bla-bla:10000  the problem is that is wont accept my root password.  I need to create a user and password for it, but I dont know how or what file to enter the usernme and pass into
[05:17] <pvd2006> my linux partition is 10 gigs, which might be a lot.
[05:17] <Apostle^> Hoochie: the main part? i'd say no less than 10gigs
[05:17] <yipe> cool pvd2006 :)
[05:17] <oknewbie> how much harddrive do you have
[05:18] <Hoochie> ok, space isnt an issue for me
[05:18] <task> intelikey: ok, i find this: FH: 30 ~ 85KHZ, FV: 50 ~ 160HZ
[05:18] <oknewbie> I broke mine in halves
[05:18] <Apostle^> if you have to
[05:18] <Hoochie> 640
[05:18] <floppyears> intelikey: yes, I have used that but it shows the touched time
[05:18] <Apostle^> you can run ubuntu on 5gigs
[05:18] <rebelfallen> I don't run any other distros, my main partition is 70gb
[05:18] <pvd2006> yipe, lol
[05:18] <yipe> hehe
[05:18] <floppyears> I'm trying to figure out if it was touched and when ?
[05:18] <oknewbie> Hoochie if you are resisinge your windows partition make sure you defrag first
[05:18] <Hoochie> im plan to dual boot with both os's on my 80gb hdd
[05:18] <oxez> I'm trying to install an app, runing ./configure. The script tells me GTK is not installed (version >= 2.6.x). However, libgtk2.0 is installed (2.8.17), as well as libgtk2.0-dev (2.8.17). Any ideas?
[05:18] <[Alex_G] > is it possible to install ubuntu (powerpc/ mac version) in a disk image and run it through a virtual drive?
[05:19] <yipe> speaking of defragging, *nix never needs to do that?
[05:19] <rebelfallen> Then you want about 10gb for the linux for sure. thats plenty I think
[05:19] <pvd2006> you can't write to windows partition with Ubuntu yet I dont think? But you can always log into windows and run that little utility to be able to use a linux partition and copy and paste it to the windows partition.
[05:19] <my> hai!
[05:19] <oknewbie> I run 39 and 39 on my notbook 80 gig
[05:19] <yipe> kon'nichi wa my-san!
[05:19] <rebelfallen> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[05:19] <rebelfallen> /dev/hda2             72409032   3386028  65285484   5% /
[05:19] <rebelfallen> /dev/hda1              1486080     41828   1367544   3% /boot
[05:19] <rebelfallen> I dont have much multimedia though :)
[05:20] <noiesmo> mzuverink, aah ok is there not a file in /etc/webmin folder
[05:20] <[Alex_G] > ... is it?
[05:20] <Apostle^> rebelfallen: don't paste
[05:20] <intelikey> kewl.   if you would have added -h  you could have flooded in human readable format.....
[05:20] <yipe> haha
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:20] <rebelfallen> Im sure 3 lines didn't kill anyone
[05:20] <yipe> is 3 lines really a flood?
[05:20] <yipe> I mean, really?
[05:20] <nomasteryoda|w> df -Th is good
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> try that line too yipe
[05:21] <rebelfallen> OMG leaving guys, don't flood with quit messages
[05:21] <[Alex_G] > *sigh*
[05:21] <yipe> do what?
[05:21] <intelikey> rebelfallen no but it can get the flooder "killed"  depending on the op that is present in the channel.
[05:21] <fiendskull9> !symlink
[05:21] <ubotu> well, symlink is ln -s /path/to/file/or/dir /path/to/link
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> yipe, df -Th
[05:21] <yipe> and what does that do?
[05:21] <nomasteryoda|w> oh, nevermind it was rebelfallen
[05:22] <rebelfallen> doesnt set as 1k
[05:22] <nomasteryoda|w> rebelfallen, df -Th
[05:22] <rebelfallen> changes to GB
[05:22] <yipe> hehe
[05:22] <mzuverink> noiesmo:  there are a lot of folders in /etc/webmin
[05:22] <skpl> Apostle^, i do not have a firewall or a router
[05:22] <Hoochie> ok guys
[05:22] <defendguin> how come the ubuntu desktop takes up 2 gigs?
[05:22] <[Alex_G] > ack
[05:22] <rebelfallen> Im lazy, I like to just df ;)
[05:22] <yipe> ;)
[05:22] <Apostle^> skpl: linux has firewall built in
[05:22] <Hoochie> just making my partition   bbiab
[05:22] <rebelfallen> selinux?
[05:22] <skpl> Apostle^, how do i open the port?
[05:22] <Apostle^> skpl: install firestarter and make a rule
[05:23] <rebelfallen> he could disable the linux firewall. but probably not a good idea :D
[05:23] <Apostle^> i don't think you can
[05:23] <intelikey> rebelfallen try this     echo 'alias df="df -h" ' >> .bashrc ;bash df
[05:23] <nomasteryoda|w> rebelfallen, he might should flush the iptables
[05:24] <nomasteryoda|w> after changing it
[05:24] <nomasteryoda|w> then restart the firewall
[05:24] <rebelfallen> m... yah
[05:24] <intelikey> the use of aliases make the lazy functional....
[05:24] <Apostle^> all he needs to do is add a rule uzing firestarter
[05:24] <nomasteryoda|w> many apps don't do that for you
[05:24] <nomasteryoda|w> ya
[05:24] <nomasteryoda|w> i like guarddog better...
[05:25] <oknewbie> Does anyone have gpc working in dapper?
[05:25] <skpl> Apostle^, the add rule menu item is lgreyed out, what do i do?
[05:25] <noiesmo> mzuverink, ncluded with the Webmin distribution is a program called changepass.pl to solve precisely this problem. Assuming you have installed Webmin in /usr/local/webmin-1.270, you could change the password of the admin user to foo by running  /usr/local/webmin-1.270/changepass.pl /etc/webmin admin foo
[05:25] <Apostle^> skpl: go to policy right click in the bottom add policy and their is a drop down list pick ftp it will make it port 21 for you automatically
[05:26] <noiesmo> mzuverink, might help
[05:27] <skpl> Apostle^, the add rule menu item is greyed out, i cannot select it
[05:27] <Apostle^> skpl: if you right click?
[05:27] <skpl> Apostle^, yes
[05:27] <Apostle^> skpl: hmm did you run it as root?
[05:27] <oknewbie> Later all
[05:27] <skpl> Apostle^, no, but i will
[05:28] <skpl> Apostle^, i still cannot select it, why is that?
[05:28] <Apostle^> skpl: hrm, not sure you in the policy tab?
[05:28] <arrick1> anyone I am trying to auto login and I cant get this computer to give the correct password no matter if I type it correct or not, any suggestions?
[05:28] <skpl> Apostle^, ok, i got it now
[05:28] <oxez> I'm trying to install an app, runing ./configure. The script tells me GTK is not installed (version >= 2.6.x). However, libgtk2.0 is installed (2.8.17), as well as libgtk2.0-dev (2.8.17). Any ideas?
[05:29] <Apostle^> skpl: :-)
[05:29] <Apostle^> skpl: then try ftp
[05:29] <skpl> Apostle^, it says add new inbound rule, but i want to be able to connect to my computer from anywhere, not just a single ip
[05:29] <Apostle^> skpl: make sure you hit the check mark afterthat
[05:29] <Apostle^> skpl: yea select 'everyone'
[05:29] <slavik> oxez: how did you install gtk?
[05:29] <skpl> ok, thank you
[05:29] <oxez> slavik, from the repos
[05:29] <slavik> oxez: through apt/synaptic?
[05:29] <Apostle^> skpl: you want to allow a service.
[05:29] <slavik> hmm
[05:29] <intelikey> arrick1 autologin gui or console ?
[05:29] <slavik> oxez: whatcha trying to install?
[05:29] <Apostle^> skpl: not an host
[05:29] <skpl> Apostle^, i still cannot connect to my machine though
[05:30] <Apostle^> skpl: make sure you do the bottom tab in policy
[05:30] <slavik> skpl: did you solve that problem I was helping you with?
[05:30] <oxez> slavik, yes through synaptic. I'm trying to install php-gtk
[05:30] <Apostle^> skpl: allow service, not host
[05:30] <slavik> oxez: is it in the repos?
[05:30] <skpl> Apostle^, Cannot connect to skpl.no-ip.info: Connection refused
[05:31] <yipe> so.... how is it linux never has to defrag?
[05:31] <Apostle^> skpl: are you allowing a service, or a host
[05:31] <skpl> Apostle^, the service.
[05:31] <oxez> slavik, if it was I would not be here asking this question :P
[05:31] <arrick1> gui
[05:31] <slavik> I know someone who set up a router with DMZ on a port and has a Windows based system acting as the firewall ...
[05:31] <arrick1> intelikey,
[05:31] <Apostle^> skpl: did you hit apply policy ?
[05:31] <arrick1> ^^
[05:31] <skpl> Apostle^, yes i did
[05:31] <TokenBad> ok let me ask this way..if I have a site that I can't connect to..and the answer of them was to change some ip..and I know that some have been listed like <IP_ADDRESS> or something...how do I change this ip? and what ip are they talking about?
[05:31] <slavik> oxez: fair enough
[05:31] <Apostle^> skpl: hrm take a screenshot and gimme the link
[05:31] <oxez> slavik, it passes the glib test tho, not the gtk
[05:32] <skpl> ok
[05:32] <slavik> oxez: where did you get it from?
[05:32] <yipe> DMZ = De-militarized Zone?
[05:32] <oxez> slavik, php-gtk? it's cvs
[05:32] <slavik> yipe: yes
[05:32] <yipe> okay
[05:32] <slavik> hmm
[05:32] <intelikey> arrick1 gdm has that functionality built in   if you use gnome and gdm  look in the login setup
[05:32] <michael117> I was trying to untar an archive and got the following error: tar: cowon_a2/rootfs/default/dev/cpusb2: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted
[05:32] <slavik> might want to open the config script and see where it checks for gtk libs ... and such
[05:33] <oxez> slavik: I tried, I'll try again I guess :p
[05:33] <arrick1> intelikey, I am using the xchat client on windows
[05:33] <oxez> slavik: if you want to look at it..
[05:33] <skpl> Apostle^, where should i put the screenshot?
[05:33] <slavik> PM me the script
[05:33] <slavik> or pastebin it
[05:33] <slavik> skpl: on pastebin
[05:33] <Apostle^> skpl: upload it to like imageshack.us and give me the link
[05:33] <Apostle^> or pastebin
[05:34] <slavik> arrick1: use gaim
[05:34] <void^> michael117: are you root?
[05:34] <arrick1> intelikey, ind looking at what the character set is in the gui?
[05:34] <slavik> xchat is evil
[05:34] <michael117> void^: thanks
[05:35] <intelikey> arrick1 auto login on a remote box.... ?     bad idea.
[05:35] <arrick1> slavik if i wanted to use gaim i would
[05:35] <arrick1> nopw not on remote box, I want to login on my xp box, I have the xchat client on it
[05:35] <TokenBad> how change dns server in ubuntu?
[05:36] <arrick1> /etc/network/interfaces
[05:36] <intelikey> when did this become M$ windows XP help channel.... ?
[05:36] <Apostle^> intelikey: when i die
[05:36] <skpl> Apostle^, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12217
[05:36] <intelikey> Apostle^ plan on living forever are ya ?
[05:37] <slavik> arrick1: fine, be evil
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[05:37] <lutra> hi i am trying to install excel on XP and i get this error "a virus was detected you will now see the blue screen of death for eternity"
[05:37] <arrick1> intelikey, nvmd, maybe i'll be able to actually pull help out of the underworld somewhere, although I am in here all the time, and I cn help with either most of the time
[05:37] <spowers> Q: Does the default ubuntu kernel's initrd contain netboot support (udhcpd/nfs?)
[05:37] <slavik> oxez: did you install libgtk or libgtk2.0?
[05:37] <Apostle^> skpl: weird! it looks right, is your ftp server using port 21?
[05:37] <oxez> slavik: yes
[05:37] <skpl> Apostle^, yes, i told it to
[05:37] <arrick1> slavik, this is arrick you are talking to
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[05:37] <slavik> that wasn't a yes/no question :P
[05:37] <arrick1> my other nick
[05:37] <oxez> slavik: libgtk-dev, libgtk, libgtk2.0 and libgtk2.0-dev are installed
[05:37] <skpl> Apostle^, i mean, i assume it is, im using proftpd
[05:37] <Apostle^> skpl: hrm.. you sure you don't have a router ?
[05:37] <slavik> w/e
[05:37] <skpl> Apostle^, positive
[05:38] <slavik> oxez: I see ...
[05:38] <Apostle^> skpl: hrm give me your numerical ip #
[05:38] <intelikey> arrick1 i don't do windows.   and you should specify "Micro_$oft help needed" before asking things like that.
[05:38] <arrick> ok
[05:38] <skpl> Apostle^, <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:39] <Apostle^> skpl: okay one moment
[05:39] <Apostle^> skpl: hm yep refused
[05:39] <Apostle^> skpl: hrm.. one moment
[05:39] <slavik> oxez: no clue why it is not happening ...
[05:40] <Apostle^> skpl: have a look in the proftpd config file just to make sure it's using the right port
[05:40] <skpl> Apostle^, according to my proftpd conf file it is using port 21
[05:40] <oxez> slavik: I read the config.log, it was looking for gtk/gtk.h. I did a ln -s /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk /usr/include/gtk, now in config.log I see something about gdk/gdk.h, I'll try to install that one
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> intelikey, man very much I thankyou
[05:40] <Apostle^> skpl: oh then... this is crazy
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> that is so simple
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> its copying as we chat
[05:40] <Apostle^> skpl: have you ever ran an ftp server b4?
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[05:40] <spowers> can i get a trimmed-down ubuntu?
[05:40] <nomasteryoda|w> spowers, you can get the live one
[05:41] <skpl> Apostle^, yes, i used pure-ftpd before
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> spowers, that is pretty trim
[05:41] <Apostle^> skpl: hmm so your isp doesn't block 21 this is odd.
[05:41] <DBO> server install spowers
[05:41] <Apostle^> skpl: try ftp on localhost, ftp localhost
[05:41] <skpl> ok
[05:41] <nomasteryoda|w> spowers, but that will do no gui... which you can remedy by installing xfce or what you need
[05:41] <spowers> i'm pretty much a windowmaker kind of guy, i don't want the whole gnome or kde install, but i do take parts of each
[05:41] <skpl> Apostle^, ftp: connect: Connection refused
[05:41] <Apostle^> skpl: mm...
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> spowers, one of my LUG guys does that
[05:42] <spowers> nomasteryoda|w: if i start with the server install, and get x-window-system, does that have xcompmgr and all that neat stuff?
[05:42] <Apostle^> skpl: honestly i don't know what the problem could be
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> er, good question
[05:42] <spowers> cool.
[05:42] <intelikey> back when i actually used that black os  i went to the M$ forum and tried to answer some questions there and people were ammazed that someone would offer to help without being part of the M$ team....   with linux it's not supprising, heck it's expected.    we help each other because...... ah,  it's the right thing to do ?      </rant>
[05:42] <skpl> bummer.
[05:42] <nomasteryoda|w> You will have to install that stuff, but it should be there if you request it with apt
[05:42] <spowers> well, i'll give it a shot, thanks. Now, here's the next question, does the default initrd support netbooting
[05:42] <spowers> my current debian etch system is netbooted (for a quieter pc)
[05:42] <Apostle^> skpl: yes this is odd...
[05:42] <skpl> Apostle^, maybe it is because i do not have inetd running? is that possible?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> skpl, run ethereal
[05:43] <wastrel> ubuntu
[05:43] <slavik> oxez: I dunno what to say ...
[05:43] <Apostle^> skpl: yes..
[05:43] <Apostle^> skpl: i believe so
[05:43] <skpl> how do i check if it is running?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> skpl, do you have another box on your lan?
[05:43] <skpl> nomasteryoda|w, no
[05:43] <skpl> just this one
[05:43] <oxez> slavik: as soon as I get it working I'll tell you :p
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> ps ax | grep inetd
[05:43] <nomasteryoda|w> right?
[05:43] <michael117> How can I chown and chmod an entire folder or everything in the current folder, including hidden files?
[05:43] <Apostle^> ps aux *
[05:43] <skpl> nomasteryoda, nothing
[05:44] <skpl> how do i start inetd?
[05:44] <nomasteryoda|w> michael117, chmod user:group -R /folder
[05:44] <word> Hi, can someone please explain these directions to me - "type as insmod argument (card=n). You might also have to specify tuner=x and pll=x" ?
[05:44] <intelikey> ps axefc --cols 5000 | less
[05:45] <michael117> nomasteryoda|w: thanks
[05:45] <nomasteryoda|w> np
[05:45] <mike_> how do i play totem
[05:45] <mike_> shoutcast
[05:45] <mike_> and  dvds
[05:45] <mike_> in stuff
[05:45] <mike_> how do i play them
[05:45] <mike_> wat do i do
[05:46] <mike_> im a noob
[05:46] <Apostle^> stop using enter as a puncation first
[05:46] <mike_> at this linux
[05:46] <mike_> oh sorry
[05:46] <skpl> Apostle^, i thought inetd was always running
[05:46] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu tell mike_ about mp3
[05:46] <Apostle^> skpl: i don't know :\
[05:47] <intelikey> word i can give an example;  insmod snd-ess1618 card=0 tuner=1 pll=0e44       example may not be usable on anything tho.
[05:47] <skpl> so nobody can help me get my ftp server running?
[05:47] <nomasteryoda|w> mike_, did you see ubotu's directions
[05:47] <mike_> totem says i need to download codecs for it in order to play files
[05:47] <mike_>  y is that
[05:47] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[05:47] <Hoochie> the file "ubuntu-5.10-dvdamd64.iso" is ;larger then 2 gb and therefore cannot be stored in an ISO
[05:47] <Hoochie> help?
[05:47] <rebel2> totem doesnt come prepackaged with wmv or mov support etc
[05:47] <word> intelikey: Basically I need to know what to put in the place of 'snd-ess1618' or is that correct?
[05:47] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu tell mike_ about codecs
[05:47] <mike_> and where can i find them
[05:47] <rebel2> Whole Linux liability thing
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> there you go
[05:48] <mike_> and how do i get them on my computer
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu, tell mike_ about sources
[05:48] <intelikey> word the correct driver for your card.... i have no idea what your card is
[05:48] <lone_marauder> skpl, just jumped in - what's wrong with it?
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu tell mike_ about non-free
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu tell mike_ about universe
[05:49] <skpl> lone_marauder, i have proftpd installed but i cannot connect to my machine via ftp, though i have added an ftp rule with firestarter
[05:49] <intelikey> word what are you working on perzactly ?
[05:49] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu tell mike_ about multiverse
[05:49] <word> intelikey: this is a link to a description of it - http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=2259&cat=all
[05:49] <intelikey> k
[05:49] <lone_marauder> skpl - when you say "connect", do you mean it doesn't even prompt you for a password?
[05:49] <skpl> lone_marauder, i think i need to have inetd running but i do not know how to start it
[05:49] <nomasteryoda|w> mike_, i know those are bunch to look at but they hold the answer
[05:49] <word> intelikey: My tv tuner bttv or something isn't configured right
[05:49] <skpl> lone_marauder, i get connection refused
[05:49] <lone_marauder> ok
[05:49] <nomasteryoda|w> word, color and channel off by 1?
[05:49] <rebel2> Does anyone have some good Ubuntu related docs to help with installing ubuntu as a network office server? I want to set it up so all the machines in the office want to connect through the machine to even get past the router. Also I plan on running samba to do weekly backups of all of the local IP machines
[05:49] <lone_marauder> skpl, hang on a sec - let me look at something
[05:49] <skpl> k
[05:50] <lone_marauder> skpl, OK - is the service running?
[05:50] <rebel2> I guess I want to use it to hand out IPs... I just don't know the terminology
[05:50] <word> nomasteryoda|w: No, says no signal really wierd
[05:50] <mike_> and wat is a good filesharing network for this that is easy to install
[05:50] <intelikey> word PVR 878 ?
[05:50] <skpl> lone_marauder, no...:(
[05:50] <skpl> hehe
[05:50] <word> intelikey:  Yes.
[05:50] <Jack_Bristow> I've been running 6.04 for about 2 weeks.  After install NetworkManager worked fine.  But after an update a long the way NetworkManager no longer works.   Does anyone else have this issie
[05:50] <intelikey> ok.
[05:51] <slavik> Jack_Bristow: ubuntu+1
[05:51] <lone_marauder> skpl, cool.  looks like you're good to go.  Good luck.
[05:51] <slavik> and it's 6.06
[05:51] <wastrel> rebel2:  you want to set it up as a dhcp server for the network
[05:51] <wastrel> rebel2:  also as the default gateway, and router
[05:51] <rebel2> Ah, where would I look at docs for that wastrel?
[05:52] <noiesmo> rebel2, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installdhcpserver
[05:52] <rebel2> Just dhcp ?
[05:52] <rebel2> thank you sweetie
[05:52] <skpl> lone_marauder, but proftpd is supposed to be started by inetd automatically, right?
[05:52] <intelikey> word do this.   sudo -i      then  . /etc/bash_completion     and you can use the [tab]  key to complete that command.
[05:52] <skpl> how do i start inetd?
[05:52] <intelikey> insmod prv[tab]
[05:53] <nomasteryoda|w> rebel2, you in the states?
[05:53] <rebel2> Indeed
[05:53] <nomasteryoda|w> cool
[05:53] <Jack_Bristow> clavik ubuntu+1?
[05:53] <lone_marauder> skpl, you're touching on old knowledge long buried.  To be honest, I can't remember the last thing I installed that uses inetd to start the service dynamically.
[05:53] <Jack_Bristow> Sorry slavik.   bad typing
[05:53] <[Alex_G] > what's an ELF image?
[05:53] <nomasteryoda|w> Jack_Bristow, the channel #ubuntu+1
[05:53] <Jack_Bristow> Ahhh Thanks
[05:53] <TokenBad> ok let me ask this way..if I have a site that I can't connect to..and the answer of them was to change some ip..and I know that some have been listed like <IP_ADDRESS> or something...how do I change this ip? and what ip are they talking about?
[05:53] <[Alex_G] > #ubuntu+1
[05:53] <word> intelikey: Should it be showing .ICEauthority .aptitude/ etc. ?
[05:53] <skpl> lone_marauder, if i use the server in standalone mode will it still start up when i boot my machine?
[05:53] <lone_marauder> skpl, I run several servers, but I don't remember the last time I had to mess with inetd.
[05:53] <rebel2> I've only been playing with linux for a week or two. I just fell in love with it. My friend told me to try ubuntu, I like it
[05:53] <intelikey> no
[05:54] <Daskies> I'll give a cookie to anyone who can tell me how to open a .cwk (Appleworks)
[05:54] <nomasteryoda|w> rebel2, it is very good
[05:54] <intelikey> word you did type         . /etc/bash_completion
[05:54] <nomasteryoda|w> and dapper is looking very sweet too
[05:54] <[Alex_G] > what's an ELF image?
[05:54] <rebel2> What is dapper exactly?
[05:54] <lone_marauder> skpl, the service needs to be assigned to the default runlevel.  Hang on.  Let me check something else.
[05:54] <nomasteryoda|w> Electric Light Funkadelic ?
[05:54] <rebel2> ELFs are evil. :(
[05:54] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[05:54] <intelikey> has to have the (.)
[05:54] <[Alex_G] > what are they though
[05:54] <wastrel> [Alex_G] :  it's a binary file format for linux programs
[05:54] <skpl> lone_marauder, ok i got the ftp server to accept a connection, but how do i make sure it runs at startup?
[05:55] <[Alex_G] > ah
[05:55] <TokenBad> how do you change the dns server in ubuntu?
[05:55] <lone_marauder> skpl - I am looking at that now.
[05:55] <nomasteryoda|w> rebel2, elf (5)              - format of Executable and Linking Format (ELF) files
[05:55] <skpl> ok
[05:55] <TokenBad> the one your isp gives you
[05:55] <wastrel> TokenBad:  edit /etc/resolv.conf  or change it in system->adminstiration->network
[05:55] <lone_marauder> skpl - I am a long time Gentoo user but am new to Ubuntu.
[05:55] <word> yes I pressed tab when I finished typing and nothing happened so then I hit the space bar, hit tab and several things showed up.
[05:55] <nomasteryoda|w> you can find stuff about most anything on linux by using "apropos filename"
[05:56] <nomasteryoda|w> the installed one you are logged into that is
[05:56] <intelikey> no space.  word.
[05:56] <Daskies> 2 cookies to anyone with an app that can open .cwk 's
[05:56] <lone_marauder> skpl,  if it is checked in services, it should start when you reboot.
[05:56] <intelikey> maybe two tabs
[05:56] <nomasteryoda|w> ya, 2 tabs
[05:56] <word> I'm getting nothing...this should work on kubuntu too right?
[05:56] <rebel2> Hmmmm so if I set this up as a DHCP server, it will auto assign IPs to any machine trying to get outside the network? Does it by default allow outside access?
[05:56] <intelikey> insmod pr[tab] [tab]
[05:57] <lone_marauder> rebel2, there is going to be a config file for the dhcp server.
[05:57] <word> intelikey: Tab is getting me nothing :-/
[05:58] <rebel2> yeah I can edit the range etc
[05:58] <rebel2> But once I do that it will work when I restart yes
[05:58] <rebel2> restart the daemon that is
[05:58] <word> intelikey: What should be showing up?
[05:58] <skpl> lone_marauder, what do you mean checked in services?
[05:58] <lone_marauder> rebel2, there's several steps you have to get right.  hang on.
[05:58] <rebel2> yes I have the doc here
[05:58] <rebel2> I just want to make sure it's really this easy
[05:58] <rebel2> It looks too simple
[05:59] <lone_marauder> skpl, in the services list under system->administration->services
[05:59] <lone_marauder> rebel2, the ip network has to be set up correctly.  This means that the masks match, the addresses are valid, etc.
[05:59] <skpl> lone_marauder, thank you!
[05:59] <lone_marauder> rebel2, dhcp has to hand out valid addresses.
[05:59] <intelikey> word you can use "lspci | less"  or "lshw | less"   and see what the system calls your card ?     word you are looking for a driver for that card, correct ?     bash_completion is supposed to help you find it on your system....  modprobe pv[tab] [tab]     maybe insmod is not in bash_completion.....
[06:00] <rebel2> That should be no problem. Does it get them from the router i am assuming?
[06:00] <lone_marauder> rebel2, the server has to forward traffic to the internet
[06:00] <lone_marauder> rebel2, the server has to use NAT to translate the internal addresses so that the traffic appears to the Internet to originate from the server itself.
[06:00] <lone_marauder> rebel2, the server has to use NAT to translate BACK so that the traffic can get back in.
[06:00] <rebel2> How do I config the NAT?
[06:00] <lone_marauder> rebel2, this is a very big task.
[06:01] <rebel2> heh I knew that was coming
[06:01] <skypa> two lines ^^
[06:01] <lone_marauder> rebel2, you'll need to read some docs on how to do this, and do it one step at a time.
[06:01] <nomasteryoda|w> intelikey, is there a way to exclude a directory from that copy command?
[06:01] <Apostle^> rebel2: you want the server to assign IP's to the client pc's ?
[06:01] <rebel2> Yeah that's no problem. Do you have those docs handy by chance?
[06:01] <intelikey> word like  this   tty1 [root#~]  modprobe tv[tab] [tab]
[06:01] <intelikey> tvaudio  tvmixer
[06:01] <rebel2> That's right Apostle^
[06:01] <nomasteryoda|w> intelikey, it was doing a duplicate of my /media... which is liek my whole hd again
[06:01] <lone_marauder> rebel2, I am trying to find you something.
[06:01] <Apostle^> rebel2: then you should setup DHCP using firestarter simple 1 minute process
[06:02] <rebel2> firestarter allows you to do that?
[06:02] <intelikey> i didn't type [tab] [tab]   that indicates i pressed the tab key two times
[06:02] <lone_marauder> rebel2, the NAT business is a firewall thing - firestarter may have something for it.
[06:02] <rebel2> I thought it was just a firewall
[06:02] <Apostle^> rebel2: it does alot :-) including sharing internet connection
[06:02] <nomasteryoda|w> intelikey, it was doing a duplicate of my /media... which is liek my whole hd again
[06:02] <rebel2> So if I set DHCP and assign the IPs then set firestarter up it will allow the outgoing connections?
[06:02] <wastrel> ah right NAT
[06:02] <Apostle^> rebel2: yea, then you assign each of the other comps a static IP
[06:02] <skypa> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ; iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o OUTGOING INTERFACE -j MASQUERADING
[06:02] <lone_marauder> Do we still call NAT IP Masq in the linux world?
[06:02] <rebel2> That's frigging brilliant
[06:02] <pvd2006> What is the command to find out what kind of file a certain file is
[06:02] <mavric2001> strange, no user list, irc problem or on my end?
[06:02] <skypa> this typed at the router terminal should to the job
[06:02] <intelikey> nomasterjoda|w  man tar  and exclude /media
[06:03] <skypa> NAT for starters
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> pvd2006: file
[06:03] <nomasteryoda|w> ok
[06:03] <word> intelikey: I'm not that stupid :P Pressing tab twice is doing nothing. Is that something unique to ubuntu and not in Kubuntu?
[06:03] <rebel2> Spank you much :D
[06:03] <mavric2001> xchat
[06:03] <nomasteryoda|w> even i forget to ask man
[06:03] <skypa> oh, and replace OUTGOING INTERFACE of course :p
[06:03] <intelikey>        --exclude=PATTERN
[06:03] <intelikey>               exclude files matching PATTERN
[06:03] <lone_marauder> skypa, I think you need another rule there
[06:04] <intelikey> word it's bash  not ubuntu or kubuntu.
[06:04] <Apostle^> rebel2: then you just set the gateway to the server IP on each of the client pc's
[06:04] <skypa> why lone_marauder?
[06:04] <pvd2006> tonyyarusso, it says the file is empty but it is over 15megs
[06:04] <rebel2> AHhhhhhh yeah okay that would have been my next Q. :D
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> pvd2006: I don't know why.
[06:04] <rebel2> The server IP should just be <IP_ADDRESS> yeah? (1.1 is the router)
[06:05] <word> intelikey: What are we trying to accomplish from doing this? Find out what it's calling my tv tuner?
[06:05] <intelikey> empty file of 15m   nice.  maybe fs error ?
[06:06] <lone_marauder> skypa, n/m  - I'm being stupid
[06:06] <Apostle^> rebel2: the gateway for all the client pc's should be the Ip of the server PC
[06:06] <skypa> :p
[06:06] <Apostle^> rebel2: like <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:06] <lone_marauder> rebel2, what is this router you are talking about?
[06:06] <intelikey> word and the driver to use.... unless you already know which kernel module to insert ?
[06:06] <Apostle^> rebel2: i'm not sure why you are doing this though, since a router does it best
[06:06] <skypa> I'd say his setup is router <-> server <-> client
[06:06] <word> intelikey: I know the tuner=78 and that's it lol.
[06:07] <lone_marauder> yeah
[06:07] <Apostle^> rebel2: make sure the server pc gateway is still the router and the router has DHCP enabled, and the server pc is static IP
[06:07] <intelikey> word the kernel modules are in /lib/modules/*  you can search if you like.
[06:07] <lone_marauder> in which case he doesn't need to worry about NAT
[06:07] <Apostle^> rebel2: so the router gives the server pc an internet address
[06:07] <PhoenixGI> Ok when I go to install something in synaptic I keep getting a message about 3 items held and not upgraded.  Any way to clear thoes out?
[06:07] <intelikey> word i was trying to make it easy on you. but if i'm just confusing things i'll hush.
[06:07] <skypa> lone_marauder, that is actually true.. *thinks*
[06:08] <intelikey> PhoenixGI what are they ?
[06:08] <lone_marauder> In fact, if a router is sitting there, why are we running dhcp on a server?
[06:08] <Apostle^> lone_marauder: that was my question
[06:09] <Apostle^> ;-p
[06:09] <void^> word: if it's bt878 the module is called bttv. try 'rmmod bttv ; modprobe bttv tuner=78` . see if it works. if not, post dmesg output on pastebin and have people look at it :)
[06:09] <PhoenixGI> intelikely ffmpeg mplayer-386 transcode
[06:09] <bobonthenet> how do I install  using an sh file?
[06:10] <Apostle^> bobmcbob: ./name.sh
[06:10] <intelikey> void^ hehhe thanks....  oh but i think word needs to insmod that.
[06:10] <word> kernel module is...like 26.12-10-386? o.O or ..? What exactly am I looking for intelikey?
[06:10] <skypa> lone_marauder, maybe the router is on another subnet than the client
[06:10] <intelikey> word read void^ ^^
[06:10] <lone_marauder> skypa - like it has a mezzanine network - like a DMZ?
[06:10] <skypa> right
[06:11] <lone_marauder> ugh.  That would be a mess
[06:11] <skypa> well, depends.. but in this case I'd agree *cough*
[06:11] <diana> good night, i need some help, i can only listen to music with realplayer but with other players as amarok it says that the song its not playble or messages like that
[06:11] <twidget> I need a hand: I have a 250GB drive that I've partitioned into 60GB (and installed Windows XP Professional x64 on), 20GB (for Ubuntu), 2.5GB (for swap) and the remaining 165.5GB for FAT32 documents. In Ubuntu's partition manager, everything goes swimmingly except for the last partition. Help?
[06:11] <blindx> k3b can't burn avi's to a VCD.. what can, or how can i convert the avi's to mpeg?
[06:11] <twidget> For instance, what should it point to?
[06:12] <skypa> diana, check back with the guys in #amarok, sound like a sound engine problem
[06:12] <diana> thx
[06:13] <lone_marauder> wow   - just took a look are firestarter.
[06:13] <word> void^ and intelikey "ERROR: Module bttv is in use by bt878"
[06:13] <Apostle^> brb ~ reboot
[06:13] <lone_marauder> you guys just getting into Linux don't know how good you've got it.  :)
[06:13] <rebel2> Sorry for not being specific enough. Basically I have an incoming connection. I want to run it through a router, and have the first machine it hits be my Ubuntu box. The ubuntu machine will assign IPs out to the network (about 9 computers) and these IPs will be granted access to the internet outside of the router. See what I mean?
[06:13] <noiesmo> blindx, kmec15
[06:13] <blindx> kmec15 is a burning program, or a converter?
[06:13] <noiesmo> blindx, sorry kmenc15
[06:13] <fiendskull9> hey
[06:13] <lone_marauder> rebel2, what is the router- physically?
[06:13] <fiendskull9> im trying to install VM-ware server
[06:13] <rebel2> It's a netgear wireless router
[06:13] <lone_marauder> rebel2 - is it a linksys router or something?
[06:14] <noiesmo> blindx, it s a qt/kde frontend for mencoder
[06:14] <fiendskull9> and its saying it cant find the make program
[06:14] <fiendskull9> and asks me to specify the location, where is it atr?
[06:14] <blindx> What's qt? (sorry, I'm new :x)
[06:14] <Hoochie> cant seem to boot from this DVD, the iso is 'too big' to write on to DVD so i took the files from the iso and put them on the DVD yet it didnt boot from this, what do i do?
[06:14] <intelikey> word  lsmod | less     and do a rmmod <all that tied to bt878>
[06:14] <intelikey> then try again.
[06:14] <lone_marauder> rebel2, OK - what do you want the Ubuntu box to do for you in this case?
[06:14] <bobonthenet> I don't understand how to do an instal of something using an sh file can someone help me?
[06:14] <imbrandon> qt is what kde is built ontop of
[06:14] <blindx> oh
[06:14] <lone_marauder> blindx, qt is a graphical toolkit associated with KDE
[06:14] <blindx> well, im on gnome?
[06:14] <fiendskull9> bobonthenet, sudo sh <sh file>
[06:15] <rebel2> The idea is I want to use the ubuntu box to have access to all of the machines on the network so I can perform weekly backups with it, and act as a second layer of security from outside.
[06:15] <imbrandon> kde/qt apps work in gnome
[06:15] <bobonthenet> ok thanks
[06:15] <fiendskull9> Where is the "make" program located?
[06:15] <blindx> oh ok
[06:15] <rebel2> Ill be using samba to backup
[06:15] <noiesmo> blindx, you can still use kde in gnome you mention k3b so assumed kde
[06:15] <blindx> don't suppose it's in the repositories?
[06:15] <lone_marauder> rebel2, OK - this is a wireless router, right?
[06:15] <rebel2> Yes
[06:15] <lone_marauder> rebel2, How will your internal hosts be connected to the Ubuntu box?
[06:16] <noiesmo> blindx, should be universal repos or you can get from deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[06:16] <rebel2> Cat5, through the router. The wireless is rarely used
[06:16] <intelikey> hmmmmm bash: lsb_release: command not found
[06:16] <blindx> thanks, noiesmo
[06:16] <illnor> hello, i installed ubuntu as a dual-boot on this older machine, and the screen flickers quite a bit in ubuntu, but not in xp. what needs to be done?
[06:16] <lone_marauder> rebel2, OK - how will the Ubuntu box connect to the router?
[06:16] <noiesmo> blindx, I added deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main to my repos has a range of video and audio apps
[06:16] <rebel2> illnor: need to change the frequency most likely
[06:17] <rebel2> Same, ehternet
[06:17] <intelikey> oh, forgot i removed lsb*
[06:17] <lone_marauder> rebel2, OK - you don't have enough networks.
[06:17] <blindx> alright, thanks :D
[06:17] <lone_marauder> rebel2, to do what you want to do, you'd need another hub and 2 network cards in the Ubuntu box.
[06:17] <illnor> how do I change the frequency?
[06:17] <lone_marauder> rebel2, I wouldn't advise what you are attempting.  The result would be very complicated and it wouldn't do much in terms of security.
[06:18] <twidget> Would pleading help? :)
[06:18] <blindx> Everyone's so helpful here. hah, something I'm not used to online :P
[06:18] <rebel2> That would explain why I can't DHCP and enable local sharing hehe
[06:18] <foo_> when I try to play a game in wine i get a d3d error so I looked in my Xorg.conf and there is nothing that resembles d3d in the "Module" section, is that my problem?
[06:18] <illnor> I can tell from this monitor what the settings are.. FH 67.5kHz, FV 74.98 Hz
[06:18] <rebel2> How would you suggest I backup the windows machines on the local network then lone_marauder?
[06:18] <Hoochie> why cant a put the ubuntu 3gb iso on to a dvd?
[06:18] <lone_marauder> rebel2, the internal network is protected anyway.  The Linksys box creates a boundary that will contain samba access
[06:18] <rebel2> Hoochie, just use the CD iso, its 620mb and burn to a CD as base, then install everything else from the server
[06:19] <DBO> rebel2, ghost and rsync
[06:19] <Apostle^> download the .torrent also
[06:19] <rebel2> So you're suggesting I run samba on a windows machine (that is on the network) ?
[06:19] <Apostle^> it's faster
[06:19] <word> intelikey i'm not sure what you mean by the lsmod | less thing.. ?
[06:19] <lone_marauder> rebel2, if you are using a private address range on the router (192.168.whatever), then it is impossible for someone to get in.
[06:19] <twidget> Please, somebody, partitioning help?
[06:19] <intelikey> illnor the   HorizSync  &  VertRefresh  in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  need to be set for your monitor.   if you can find your monitor on  http://monitorworld.com  put the rates in the  /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:19] <rebel2> DBO: Would I run ghost and rsync on the windows machine or the linux box?
[06:20] <DBO> lone_marauder, thats not entirely true, NAT provides limited protection
[06:20] <Apostle^> lone_marauder: what do you mean somone can get in?
[06:20] <void^> word: you'll see one line for every loaded module. the bttv line will have all modules using it listed after its name, so you can unload them first.
[06:20] <lone_marauder> DBO - his ISP won't route spoofed packets
[06:20] <blindx> noiesmo, I got a problem..
[06:20] <rebel2> lone_marauder: A lot of offices use a network server for backups and dhcp assignment
[06:20] <illnor> thank you very much intelikey
[06:20] <noiesmo> blindx, yes whats that
[06:20] <rebel2> dont want to rely solely on a router
[06:20] <blindx> If it's just two lines, I can paste it, right?
[06:20] <noiesmo> yes
[06:20] <DBO> rebel2, use ghost to make an image of the windows box, then rsync to the linux box
[06:20] <lone_marauder> rebel2, yes, and you can do that here, but the Ubuntu box won't be a network boundary - it will simply provide dhcp service.
[06:20] <intelikey> word   lsmod   will list all kernel modules inserted into your kernel atm.  and  | less   will pipe it to less (the pager) so it doesn't scroll off the screen.
[06:20] <blindx> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn' t be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90 7
[06:20] <blindx> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[06:21] <noiesmo> blindx, just ignore its just a warning
[06:21] <intelikey> less is more than more.
[06:21] <lone_marauder> DBO, if you're concerned about security, rsync is a nightmare.
[06:21] <noiesmo> blindx, its just telling you there s no public key
[06:21] <DBO> lone_marauder, not on a local network
[06:21] <lone_marauder> <- former enterprise security auditor
[06:21] <Grark> Hello everyone, Is there a simple gui based app to convert avi to mpeg?
[06:21] <blindx> oh ok
[06:21] <rebel2> Okay now here is my next question guys. Should I bother making it a DHCP server, or should I just set it up as a local IP and get it access to use ghost and rsync locally?
[06:21] <word> intelikey and void^ So I want to remove everything under bttv?
[06:21] <rebel2> Yeah I read up on rsync everyone says no no, hence my idea to use samba
[06:22] <DBO> rebel2, static IP's is easiest to work with
[06:22] <lone_marauder> DBO, My bad - I thought you were recomending rsync as a security enhancement.
[06:22] <intelikey> yep
[06:22] <lone_marauder> I misunderstood
[06:22] <noiesmo> blindx, its a bit annoying but it's ok ther's no suger lol
[06:22] <DBO> lone_marauder, no no, for security I would pipe it all through SSH
[06:22] <Doomhammer> isn't there a bittorrent release for the Ubuntu CD
[06:22] <Doomhammer>  ?
[06:22] <lone_marauder> and agreed on static IP
[06:22] <lone_marauder> DBO, absolutely
[06:22] <intelikey> under as in attached to... not as in listed below   word
[06:22] <void^> word: no, just everything on the same line
[06:22] <rebel2> DBO: Okay. So it shouldn't be an issue at all to just not have the machine be a dhcp and have it use ghost locally?
[06:23] <Codename_V> Doomhammer: I'd imagine
[06:23] <DBO> yes
[06:23] <DBO> rebel2, that is fine
[06:23] <rebel2> Hmmm... okay I'll give that a shot. :D
[06:23] <rebel2> Seems to make sense
[06:23] <word> intelikey and void^ Yes I realized you meant on the same line only bt878 was there and it is now removed
[06:23] <Doomhammer> Codename: I'm not seeing a link on the download page... just for the DVD :S
[06:23] <void^> word: if it doesn't list any other modules on the same line but the last number is greater than 0 it means there's a process using the module (you#re probably running a tv app)
[06:23] <Apostle^> whats a good command to make sure that my p4 has HT enabled ?
[06:23] <intelikey> ok try your insmod or modprobe line again word
[06:23] <pvd2006> Does crossover office work well with programs that arent already under its list of window programs
[06:23] <SmrtJustin> whats the advantage of ubuntu/kubuntu starting the rsync daemon on boot?
[06:24] <word> intelikey: modprobe bttv tuner=78?
[06:24] <rebel2> Hmmm and I could still SSH by using the port forwarding on the router. coo coo
[06:24] <intelikey> yep
[06:24] <lone_marauder> SmrtJustin, what are you doing with rsync?
[06:24] <spowers> Apostle^: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:24] <Doomhammer> ah i found it... the .torrent files are on the cd servers themselves - there's no direct link on the download page
[06:24] <void^> word: make sure you unload bttv first.
[06:24] <DBO> rebel2, I dont recommend opening shell access to the world unless you are very comfy with the security of your box
[06:24] <blindx> noiesmo, i got some more errors, do you mind if i pm you?
[06:24] <Android_D> I am trying to compile a run a simple C program in ubuntu.  It is so simple that it contatins a main method and a printf line.  I can compile this code no problem in ubuntu (using "gcc -o test test.c"), however when I run the compiled code there is not output appearing.  Does anyone know why this is so?  Could it perhaps be because I am using the terminal window (I don't think this is the case).
[06:24] <noiesmo> blindx, no go for it
[06:25] <lone_marauder> rebel2, If you do this - make ABSOLUTEY sure you restrict the accounts that can be accessed via SSH.
[06:25] <Apostle^> spowers: it shows 2 cpu's so i guess it's working :-P
[06:25] <spowers> Apostle^: bingo :)
[06:25] <lone_marauder> rebel2, don't leave a default account lying around that someone can ssh into
[06:25] <word> void^ and intelikey I think that did it! :D Now the real test a tv app..
[06:25] <Codename_V> Android_D: I'll take a look at your app if you want.  rafb.net/paste or something
[06:25] <void^> Android_D: do you run it by typing "test" or "./test" ?
[06:25] <Codename_V> void^: ah, good call
[06:25] <intelikey> could do like i did and lock all passwords    hehhe
[06:26] <intelikey> don't try that at home..... ^
[06:26] <lone_marauder> I just moved my ssh server from 22 to 27 just to cut down on the brute force attacks
 just "test".  is "./test" how you run it in ubuntu?
[06:26] <Apostle^> lone_marauder: a port over 1024 is best:-P
[06:26] <void^> Android_D: if you run test, you actually run /usr/bin/test
 yeah, I got it. thanks man
[06:26] <Codename_V> Android_D: something needs to be in your shell's path for your shell to find it
[06:26] <DBO> lone_marauder, a properly setup IDS would remove that requirement as it would filter that for you
[06:27] <rebel2> yeah I have set as 1029. haha.
[06:27] <lone_marauder> Apostle^, I'm a little afraid to do that for incoming.  Some ISPs are doing packet shaping on upper range ports
[06:27] <intelikey> Android_D most default *nix's do not have  ./ in the path.... i always fix that on my boxes...
 Ok cool. now i know.  I have used Linux on the computers at school for programming C, and I am only required to type "test".  This is my first time compiling and running in ubuntu
[06:27] <Grark> So I'll take that as no-one knows of  a simple gui based app to convert avi to mpeg?
[06:27] <lone_marauder> DBO, No, it would just tell you after the fact that it happened.  Or are you talking about IDP?
[06:27] <tigrux> I want to recompile my kernel to centrino (pentiumn). Where can I read a HowTo to do that? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageDetailedHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29 does not work.
[06:28] <tigrux> * pentiumm
[06:28] <DBO> lone_marauder, snort can do it, and yes, IDP and IDS kind of go hand in hand...
[06:28] <gecko_> hey
[06:28] <lone_marauder> DBO - I guess maybe in snort land.  In the commercial workd, that P costs about another $20,000  :)
[06:28] <Codename_V> me, I don't worry too much about someone trying to brute force my ssh servers.  long as I use decent passwords and all...
[06:28] <gecko_> Does anyone here use wine?
[06:28] <Codename_V> gecko_: sure
[06:29] <gecko_> hey
[06:29] <intelikey> gecko_ only a small glass full
[06:29] <DBO> lone_marauder, for a hardware gig... which you would never deploy at home... and would handle about 20,000 times the bandwidth you would ever see...
[06:29] <gecko_> lol
[06:29] <linkd> o0
[06:29] <blindx> I just tried to go to a webpage, and they told me I wasn't allowed access... to go to the United States and try again.. I'm in the united states o.O
[06:29] <gecko_> Im trying to figure out how to run a windows app once installed
[06:29] <intelikey> wine /path/winapp.exe
[06:30] <gecko_> thanks ill try that
[06:30] <Codename_V> gecko_: find it in your fake windows drive and run it.  something along the lines of ~/.wine/c_drive/
[06:30] <torpedo|dog> you can also do wine 'C:\\windows_path\\file.exe'
[06:30] <word> intelikey and void^ A little miscalculation with the tuner..the tuner was supposed to be =5 amnd the card=78 so after removing bttv again I'm testing it again with a tv app agin
[06:30] <lnc> is it possible to run games on wine?
[06:30] <lone_marauder> DBO - are you talking about snort?
[06:30] <sufa> is there any way i can make gnome faster?  like reduce window animation and things like that?
[06:30] <lnc> like starcraft, etc
[06:30] <torpedo|dog> If you wanted to, you could add a launcher to your panel, too.
[06:30] <Codename_V> lnc: yep.  with mixed results
[06:30] <DBO> lone_marauder, yes
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> gecko_, when you get some programs installed like ... winzip for instance... it should make a nice icon for the app on your desktop
[06:30] <lnc> what you mean with mixed results?
[06:31] <gecko_> hmm
[06:31] <Codename_V> lnc: it doesn't always work.
[06:31] <torpedo|dog> Has anybody here ever used a Western Digital MyBook?
[06:31] <lone_marauder> DBO - cool.  I haven't looked at snort in a couple of years.  I've been meaning to see how the project is going.
[06:31] <gecko_> Wine says it cannot find the directory
[06:31] <void^> lnc: your mileage may vary. a lot.
[06:31] <lnc> i see
[06:31] <TheMonoTone> whats the meta package for dev stuff
[06:31] <TheMonoTone> I always forget
[06:31] <crimsun> build-essential
[06:31] <TheMonoTone> nm
[06:31] <sufa> anyone know how to speed up gnome?
[06:31] <intelikey> word.  after you get it working.  save the last insmod/modprobe  command   the full line.   so you don't go through the same thing on reboot.  :)
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> gecko_, is wine installed?
[06:31] <sufa> like reduce animations or something
[06:31] <gecko_> argh gotta reboot , I tried reinstalling winamp and its frozen . Does anyone know if there is an equivelant ctr + alt+del for ubuntu ?
[06:32] <lone_marauder> sufa - install KDE on the same hardware for a week - then switch back.  That should fix you right up.
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> sufa, why not try xfce or wm
[06:32] <Codename_V> sufa: upgrade to gnome 2.14
[06:32] <DBO> lone_marauder, it can handle all of the traffic of a small college on a relatively modest box (actually 3 boxes doing different segments with different rules) with ease
[06:32] <intelikey> xfce4
[06:32] <sufa> 2.14 is faster than 2.12?
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> yes
[06:32] <word> I'll have to do this again on reboot? Or is it just a possibility?
[06:32] <gecko_> yes Wine is installed
[06:32] <lone_marauder> DBO - Yeah, it has always been a hardcore packet snarfer, but I didn't know how far you could push the new IDP features.
[06:32] <gecko_> I can install things like winamp
[06:33] <gecko_> I even had it running
[06:33] <lone_marauder> DBO - we used to use it when we needed a line rate reliable sniffer.
[06:33] <gecko_> but when I closed it i couldnt get it back
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> gecko_, cd into the folder with the program you want to install
[06:33] <sufa> i use fluxbox, occasionaly so i think im a little used to that, and want gnome just to go a little faster
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> wine filename.exe
[06:33] <rebel2> hey where is the boot loader file located in ubuntu?
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> 2.14 is faster
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> usually
[06:33] <tigrux> Help! I want to recompile my kernel to centrino (pentiumm). Where can I read a HowTo to do that? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageDetailedHowto does not work.
[06:33] <lone_marauder> Is 2.14 really noticably faster?
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> er, imho yes
[06:33] <illnor> intelikely, as per my monitor flickering, my particular monitor is not listed at monitorworld.com (Princeton Ultra 72e)
[06:33] <Codename_V> tigrux: define does not work.
[06:34] <lone_marauder> I haven't installed it anywhere yet
[06:34] <DBO> lone_marauder, the IDP aspect has really picked up lately, give it a run.  You can also write your own in-house stuff pretty easy
[06:34] <gecko_> hmm
[06:34] <sufa> nomasteryoda, apt-get install gnome-2.14?
[06:34] <mDot> any ubuntu equvilent to windows ip config?
[06:34] <lone_marauder> DBO - cool.
[06:34] <word> void^ and intelitype will I have to do this again on reboot? or is it just a possibility?
[06:34] <tigrux> Codename_V: Uhh?
[06:34] <intelikey> !info gnome-2.14
[06:34] <gecko_> I cant close this winamp installation, i tried to install it again and its locked up
[06:34] <tigrux> mDot: ifconfig
[06:34] <mustafu> I'm on the Ubuntu liveCD...is there any way I could temporarily remove the CD to burn a ISO image?  My Windows install is hosed, I lost the CD, so my OS situation is looking rough ;)
[06:34] <mDot> thank you
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> thanks intelikey
[06:35] <intelikey> !info gnome-2.14 dapper
[06:35] <matt88> Hello all
[06:35] <tigrux> mustafu: Install ubuntu. :)
[06:35] <matt88> Can anyone help me with eclipse?
[06:35] <intelikey> nope not in the repos.  as gnome-2.14
[06:35] <Codename_V> mustafu: I've done it.  with knoppix.  dunno if an ubuntu cd would work though.
[06:35] <matt88> I can't open java files (to code)
[06:35] <void^> word: if you know what settings you need you'll have to put it in some config file, now i'm not really sure how that works..
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> mustafu, you should try slax
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> you can load it all into ram
[06:35] <intelikey> nomasteryoda  ye be welcome, me thinks.
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> it is small download
[06:36] <sufa> nomasteryoda,  how should i upgrade?
[06:36] <matt88> I get this error with eclipse: Unable to create this part due to an internal error.
[06:36] <mustafu> Hmm....would still need to burn an image for that, I'd imagine :/
[06:36] <nomasteryoda> intelikey, told you
[06:36] <matt88> "This usually indicates that the editor's class name was mistyped in plugin.xml."
[06:36] <gecko_> Hey do you know how to close programs that freeze?
[06:36] <void^> word: see `man modprobe.conf`
[06:36] <matt88> Anyone got any ideas?
[06:36] <mustafu> I was gonna nab the Ubuntu install CD
[06:37] <intelikey> nomasteryoda ?    i told whom ?
[06:37] <Codename_V> matt88: which jre?
[06:37] <lone_marauder> intelikey, How to upgrade gnome to 2.14.
[06:37] <Hoochie> any simple way of using mirc with the standard ports blocked and pretty much only 8080 open?
[06:37] <matt88> which jre do I have?  Is that what you're asking?
[06:38] <mDot> mirc?
[06:38] <Codename_V> matt88: yep
[06:38] <DBO> Hoochie, if port 22 is open, you could pipe it through ssh to an SSH server and then connect that way, but you would need a server on the outside (like with all other solutions that are going to be presented)
[06:38] <intelikey> lone_marauder idk  it's not in the repos by that name  gnome-2.14    so if you can't find it via    apt-cache search gnome | less     then  go to the gnome website
[06:38] <SmrtJustin> lone_marauder: I'm not doing anything w/ it, I just notice my kubuntu starts it on boot, which seems kind of stupid
[06:39] <matt88> I'm using jre1.4.02 Blackdown
[06:39] <Codename_V> Hoochie: outgoing ports are blocked?
[06:39] <rebel2> is there a free version of ghost out there, or is there only Norton ghost for windows
[06:39] <Codename_V> matt88: try sun's is what I'd suggest
[06:39] <matt88> and j2sdk<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:39] <lone_marauder> SmrtJustin, turn it off if you aren't using it.
[06:39] <sufa> could someone tell me how to upgrade to gnome 2.14?
[06:39] <matt88> can i find sun's in synaptic?
[06:39] <Codename_V> matt88: beats me
[06:39] <matt88> heh, thanks
[06:39] <lone_marauder> Isn't gnome 2.14 on the dapper flight distro?
[06:39] <SmrtJustin> lone_marauder: is there a good way to turn things off using the command line?  #kubuntu suggested using KDE's crap, which I'm not a big fan of.
[06:39] <DBO> sufu, it requires a new kernel than 2.6.12, which means either compile yourself or dapper
[06:40] <Codename_V> sufa: wait till the next ubuntu is released?  go to gnome.org and grab the source and compile it?
[06:40] <DBO> s/new/newer
[06:40] <lone_marauder> SmrtJustin, yeah, but I would have to look that up.
[06:40] <lone_marauder> SmrtJustin, I am a Gentoo guy.  Don't know how debian likes to play in that way
[06:40] <DBO> SmrtJustin, what do you want to turn off?
[06:40] <lone_marauder> rsync
[06:40] <SmrtJustin> lone_marauder: I came from Gentoo too!  I really liked it, but I like how things "just work" in ubuntu
[06:41] <lone_marauder> SmrtJustin, that's pretty much my story.
[06:41] <SmrtJustin> DBO: rsync, and possibly other things
[06:41] <spowers> SmrtJustin: do you feel more smrt now that you don't spend weeks compiling your system?
[06:41] <sufa> i came from gentoo as well
[06:41] <DBO> SmrtJustin, "sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf"
[06:41] <Hoochie> Codename_V  yes they are
[06:41] <DBO> SmrtJustin, then "sudo sysv-rc-conf"
[06:41] <rebel2> sysv-rc-conf is handy :)
[06:41] <lone_marauder> SmrtJustin, Ubuntu's polish and flexibility now approaches what you can do with Gentoo, but with Ubuntu, you can do it much faster and easier.
[06:41] <SmrtJustin> spowers: uhh, actually in a way, I feel like I've gone backwards, I went to a distro that is geared more for beginners, but I like it.
[06:41] <{KAC}fiendskull9> lol
[06:41] <{KAC}fiendskull9> wow
[06:41] <DBO> SmrtJustin, then uncheck anything on runlevel 2 that you dont want (debian default runlevel is 2)
[06:41] <{KAC}fiendskull9> i got mIRC to work in wine
[06:41] <{KAC}fiendskull9> lol
[06:41] <Codename_V> Hoochie: ok, just checking
[06:41] <tigrux> Aggg..... why are the debs so complicated?
[06:42] <DBO> !enter
[06:42] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:42] <lone_marauder> SmrtJustin, It just works.
[06:42] <{KAC}fiendskull9> DBO were you talking to me?
[06:42] <spowers> SmrtJustin: how much of that is just justifcation for spending so much time building your system?
[06:42] <tigrux> I can't even figure out where the archictectures to build the kernel for are!
[06:42] <intelikey> mirc   heh     why would you want that ?
[06:42] <benoy> hi everyone
[06:42] <lone_marauder> SmrtJustin, I do miss the ease of Gentoo's init system, tho.
[06:42] <SmrtJustin> DBO: huh, I have to install it, but I'm doing that now
[06:42] <rebel2> spowers: Want to talk about weeks compiling? Try a base install of FreeBSD
[06:42] <benoy> can someone help me with amule
[06:42] <spowers> rebel2: tell me about it :[
[06:42] <lone_marauder> What's the word on editing init on a ctext console
[06:42] <lone_marauder> ?
[06:43] <SmrtJustin> lone_marauder: rc-update is da bomb!
[06:43] <void^> rebel2: packages.
[06:43] <jetscreamer> tigrux: what?
[06:43] <lone_marauder> *text
[06:43] <YukiCuss> lone_marauder, editing init?
[06:43] <lone_marauder> SmrtJustin, yeah, no lie
[06:43] <DBO> SmrtJustin, yes, I know, the first command I gave you would do that, the second ran it, the final instructions told you how to disable rsync (on runlevel 2)
[06:43] <rebel2> And if you don't portupgrade on the base install, you're going to get some many darn compile errors and dependancy issues its nuts
[06:43] <lone_marauder> YukiCuss, removing an init script from a given runlevel
[06:43] <YukiCuss> lone_marauder, simple: rm /etc/rc.(runlevel)/S??(programname)
[06:43] <void^> rebel2: if your ports tree doesn't fit your system, yes
[06:43] <SmrtJustin> spowers: I'm really glad I used gentoo for as long as I did, I learned a lot about how linux and things work.
[06:43] <benoy> Anyone know how to use amule?
[06:43] <jetscreamer> tigrux: you mean cd /usr/src && tar xvjf linux-source-<tab> && cd linux-source-<tab> ?
[06:44] <illnor> hi, if I want to change HorizSync and VertRefresh in xorg.conf .. should I set them to some close range around what my *monitor* says is the disp. freq (fh 67.5kHz, fv 74.98Hz) so as to stop the flickering on my monitor?
[06:44] <rebel2> void^: Mine didn't :(
[06:44] <tigrux> jetscreamer: I'm currently using a kernel for 686, and I want to recompile it for centrino, but I can't figure it out.
[06:44] <SmrtJustin> DBO: thanks
[06:44] <hyphenated> YukiCuss: the "debian way" is to use "update-rc.d"
[06:44] <Hoochie> benoy i know emule, any different?
[06:44] <sufa> where can i get dapper?
[06:44] <rebel2> illnor:  set as what your monitor specs say
[06:44] <intelikey> lone_marauder word on....  hehhe  the default ubuntu response to changing init is "don't"   lol
[06:44] <YukiCuss> hyphenated, ah; well.
[06:44] <void^> rebel2: need to take care which snapshot you download, or use a -current ftp for packages as well.
[06:44] <benoy> I am not sure, never used emule before
[06:44] <rebel2> check the docs on the website of the manufacturer
[06:44] <DBO> SmrtJustin, easy utility to use, just remember your runlevels are different from gentoo
[06:44] <YukiCuss> intelikey, not at all.
[06:44] <lone_marauder> tigrux - don't.  Really.
[06:44] <hyphenated> YukiCuss: tho I personally don't :-)
[06:44] <spowers> SmrtJustin: i had the same experience with slackware, before gentoo came out. learned a lot, then switched to debian :)
[06:44] <benoy> does it use server.met files?
[06:44] <spowers> SmrtJustin: in a way, i also feel like i'd be going backward to use ubuntu
[06:44] <jetscreamer> tigrux: the proc stuff is near the top when you do make menuconfig
[06:44] <tigrux> jetscreamer: I don't really know, since I don't know what is the exact debian way of rebulding a kernel.
[06:44] <Hoochie> benoy emule you connect to and server and search and download from there
[06:45] <lone_marauder> tigrux, I came from Gentoo land, where you could do that sort of thing very easily.  It doesn't buy you anything, and you can get into VERY big trouble if you screw up your kernel.
[06:45] <rebel2> well ubuntu is very easy going. heck even fedora has a harder learning curve.
[06:45] <intelikey> lone_marauder but it's standard sysv init
[06:45] <hyphenated> sufa: #ubuntu+1 is a great place to be for dapper stuff
[06:45] <YukiCuss> tigrux, the `Debian way' would be to install the source package!
[06:45] <illnor> rebel2 .. so the two lines "HorizSync 67.5" and "VertRefresh 74.98Hz" would do it?
[06:45] <rebel2> All the GUI is nice though and no default root keeps people away from the kernel at first hehe
[06:45] <SmrtJustin> DBO: well Gentoo technically doesn't use runlevels.  What about runlevels 3-5, do I need to worry about htem?
[06:45] <jetscreamer> tigrux: after you get it config'd the debian way is to use  make-kpkg which is in kernel-package
[06:45] <rebel2> illnor: so long as that is what the specs say then it will solve it yes
[06:45] <YukiCuss> SmrtJustin, almost never.
[06:45] <tigrux> YukiCuss: Which is, for the kernel? linux-meta?
[06:45] <spowers> whooaa too much text in here
[06:45] <DBO> SmrtJustin, they are admin defined but you really dont need to worry about them
[06:45] <lone_marauder> intelikey, agreed, but Gentoo had a very easy way of managing them.
[06:45] <spowers> i'm out
[06:45] <benoy> well, i am having problems connecting to the server that came with amule
[06:45] <YukiCuss> tigrux, IIRC, kernel-source-2.[etc]
[06:45] <SmrtJustin> DBO: so do they not get started on a normal boot?
[06:45] <benoy> are there lists of different servers i can choose from?
[06:45] <lone_marauder> rcupdate add <service> <named runlevel>
[06:45] <jetscreamer> tigrux: so apt-get install kernel-package if you haven't, also build-essential
[06:46] <tigrux> jetscreamer: Yea, I know tha works for a vanilla. But the ubuntu's has a lot of patches.
[06:46] <lone_marauder> rcupdate remove <service> <named runlevel>
[06:46] <DBO> SmrtJustin, no
[06:46] <jetscreamer> err i mean the ubuntu way
[06:46] <intelikey> lone_marauder i have a tool for that, it's called   mc
[06:46] <Hoochie> benoy for me i get a long list of servers
[06:46] <tigrux> jetscreamer: Oki, let me try.
[06:46] <Hoochie> benoy maybe you should try emule? ^^
[06:46] <benoy> i hear that amule is supposed to be better than emule
[06:46] <jetscreamer> tigrux: the kernel-source should be pre-patched if that helps
[06:46] <benoy> not sure though
[06:46] <COJ> hello, i was just installing ubuntu and screwed up my pc... i need some help!
[06:47] <jetscreamer> *mule is kinda slow imo
[06:47] <Hoochie> i dont know myself
[06:47] <benoy> what is ur server list address?
[06:47] <void^> last time i checked amule had a working download serverlist button
[06:47] <YukiCuss> COJ, ask a question!
[06:47] <DBO> COJ, can you be more specific on what errors you are getting or what is going wrong?
[06:47] <tigrux> jetscreamer: Oki. Thanks.
[06:47] <intelikey> lone_marauder    update-rc.d
[06:47] <Grark> ok this is frustrating.
[06:47] <Grark> trying to find a good media converter
[06:47] <Grark> been reading forums, help's howto's.
[06:47] <TheMonoTone> why are there no ffmpeg header files?
[06:47] <lone_marauder> intelikey, very nice - thanks!
[06:47] <jetscreamer> Grark: what kind of media
[06:47] <Hoochie> benoy mind if i pm?
[06:47] <Grark> all point to long convuluted solutions.
[06:47] <SmrtJustin> DBO: whats anacron?
[06:47] <intelikey> but  imo   mc  beets it
[06:47] <crimsun> TheMonoTone: sure there are
[06:47] <jetscreamer> apt-get install ffmpeg
[06:47] <Grark> jetscreamer, just trying to convert avi to mpg
[06:48] <YukiCuss> Grark, helps* howtos*.. !
[06:48] <SmrtJustin> DBO: and bluez-utils for that matter?
[06:48] <COJ> well i was trying to instal ubuntu on my external hard drive so i can have a dual boot with linux.. but after installtion and after GRUB was installed, it does not load and tells me ERROR 21
[06:48] <benoy> nope
[06:48] <COJ> what can i do to fix this?
[06:48] <rebel2> Whats the command to search APT for packages?
[06:48] <DBO> SmrtJustin, like cron, and bluetooth respectively
[06:48] <crimsun> TheMonoTone: ``apt-cache showsrc ffmpeg|grep ^Binary''
[06:48] <YukiCuss> rebel2, apt-cache search [text]
[06:48] <rebel2> danke
[06:48] <YukiCuss> bitte.
[06:48] <twb> What package do I need to install so I can compile C programs with -m32 on my AMD64 system?
[06:48] <SmrtJustin> DBO: so, why would my machine be starting anacron and cron?
[06:49] <DBO> COJ, thats because it cant mount the external drive for some reason... Im not sure how you would fix this issue...
[06:49] <jetscreamer> Grark: avidemux, acidrip, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-vcd-dvd.html#menc-feat-vcd-dvd-constraints-resolution or http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC5
[06:49] <TheMonoTone> why in gods name aren't they named something like ffmpeg-dev
[06:49] <intelikey> is bitte standard response to danke ?
[06:49] <lone_marauder> intelikey, what is mc?  I don't see it in Synaptic.
[06:49] <COJ> right, so now what?!
[06:49] <TheMonoTone> comeon now
[06:49] <YukiCuss> twb, I'm not sure on the specific answer to that - but, I hope you're aware that it's typically not that simple to run 32-bit programs without some sort of chrooted environment.
[06:49] <Grark> jetscreamer, I'll have a look
[06:49] <TheMonoTone> but thank you crimsun
[06:49] <COJ> i can't start my windows now so i cant access my internal hard dirve
[06:49] <COJ> lol
[06:49] <twb> YukiCuss: http://twb.ath.cx/tmp/tmp.log
[06:49] <YukiCuss> intelikey, dankeschon (thank you); bitteschon (you're welcome). possibly with added umlaut.
[06:49] <intelikey> lone_marauder it's there.   mc = midnight commander
[06:49] <jetscreamer> Grark: that was 4 different ways
[06:49] <DBO> SmrtJustin, thats a great question, and in general, I believe you can disable anacron
[06:49] <COJ> isn't there something?!
[06:49] <DBO> unless you use it of course
[06:50] <lone_marauder> intelikey, OH - I saw "file manager" and thought that couldn't be it.
[06:50] <jetscreamer> Grark: avidemux is good, i'm using it atm to convert avi to mpeg
[06:50] <intelikey> schon= you
[06:50] <YukiCuss> COJ, have you tried googling for `error 21 grub'?
[06:50] <lone_marauder> intelikey, my bad
[06:50] <DBO> COJ, you can put your windows disk in, press r when it prompts to enter the recover console, and type fixmbr when you get to a prompt
[06:50] <SmrtJustin> DBO: ok, what about dbus? isn't that usually called on as needed?
[06:50] <tigrux> jetscreamer: Actually, I will not modify anything, I only wat to get a kernel build specific to centrino.
[06:50] <DBO> SmrtJustin, leave that on
[06:50] <SmrtJustin> DBO: ok
[06:50] <twb> YukiCuss: executive summary: CFLAGS=-m32 ./configure ==> error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:50] <COJ> lol i know except that i cant find my windows disk!
[06:50] <jetscreamer> tigrux: you just change the processor target when you do make menuconfig... it's near the top
[06:50] <COJ> thx anyway
[06:50] <SmrtJustin> DBO: what about powernowd?
[06:51] <benoy> u still there?
[06:51] <lone_marauder> I love the "danke schoen"  "bitte shcoen" exchange.  Direct translation - "thanks beautiful"  "please beautiful"
[06:51] <DBO> SmrtJustin, on a laptop?
[06:51] <asdf25> would removing the references to the external disk from grub.conf/menu.lst fix it? just leave in the entry for Windows?
[06:51] <YukiCuss> lone_marauder, isn't that schon, with added umlaut?
[06:51] <jetscreamer> tigrux: i can't swear there is centrino optimization in there, i've never tried (don't have one) but if there is, there it is.
[06:51] <SmrtJustin> I'm used to my machine booting fast like it was w/ Gentoo, so it just seems like ubuntu is starting a lot of stuff that isn't needed
[06:51] <lone_marauder> I don't have a german keyboard :)
[06:51] <SmrtJustin> DBO: nope, desktop
[06:51] <lone_marauder> but the schoen is the umlaut'ed "o"
[06:51] <YukiCuss> twb, so I see; I'm curious why you're compiling it for 32-bit system anyway.. I don't know how to fix it.
[06:52] <rebel2> Question... now this is intense. Do I use Ghost on my ubuntu machine to make an image of the windows boxes? or do I need to use a windows ghost program to make the image and then rsync in and grab them?
[06:52] <DBO> SmrtJustin, you can disable it, but it hardly eats anything
[06:52] <twb> YukiCuss: because the package I'm compiling doesn't work on 64bit systems.
[06:52] <sean13_> hey
[06:52] <intelikey> lone_marauder after learning how and what mc does   you'll use it for everything concerning system admin file manipulation    mv cp ln ch-own/mod edit view  hehhe it's a dandy
[06:52] <twb> YukiCuss: I'm told that -m32 is supposed to magically make it work, but I don't believe it.
[06:52] <sean13_> does anyone know a program that will record video from a usb webcam?
[06:52] <tigrux> jetscreamer: There is, the cpu is PENTUIMM.
[06:52] <lone_marauder> The germans also have another great phrase - "schoene sheisse" - "beautiful shit"
[06:52] <SmrtJustin> DBO: what about ppp, and pppd-dns?  (sorry to ask you about all these services)
[06:52] <YukiCuss> twb, neither would I: presumably, you don't have any 32-bit libraries in place, and 64-bit ones will not link very carefully.
[06:52] <jetscreamer> tigrux: ok then you shouldn't have a problem
[06:53] <DBO> SmrtJustin, are you on dialup or DSL (directly to modem)?
[06:53] <twb> YukiCuss: exactly, which is why I'm wondering how the other guy made it work for him.
[06:53] <YukiCuss> twb, in that case, you might consider making a 32-bit chroot .. it's actually not /that/ hard, but it can be a bit of an annoyance. I ended up just installing an i386 system, as I didn't see much point to using the amd64 one.
[06:53] <SmrtJustin> DBO: nope, I'm on cable, and I let my linux server handle all the routing
[06:53] <DBO> SmrtJustin, unless you dial in, you can kill them too
[06:54] <SmrtJustin> DBO: k
[06:54] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:54] <ubuntu_> how are zou guzs ?
[06:54] <tigrux> jetscreamer: Oki, do you know what file must a modfy to add centrino as cpu? I'm reading debian/rules for both linux-meta and kernel-package and do not say anything about flavours or cpus.
[06:54] <SmrtJustin> DBO: mdadm?
[06:54] <DBO> SmrtJustin, do you have raid?
[06:54] <SmrtJustin> DBO: well my mobo supports it, but I don't use it
[06:55] <nomasteryoda|w> and we're back
[06:55] <DBO> SmrtJustin, using SATA?
[06:55] <twb> YukiCuss: that would be giving in!
[06:55] <jetscreamer> tigrux: when you do make menuconfig, after you unpack the source, the cpu optimizations are near the top
[06:55] <nomasteryoda|w> intelikey, i just gave up on that media... i do own ghost... so that worked
[06:55] <Grark> jetscreamer, both are commandline driven again, and while I'd love to spend hours learning, I really need a quick gui app. :(
[06:55] <SmrtJustin> DBO: no, but in the future I may... so if its something that would disable me from using sata, I'd just leave it on.
[06:55] <YukiCuss> twb, naturally! But, ask yourself what you gain anyway?
[06:55] <DBO> leave it on
[06:55] <SmrtJustin> k
[06:55] <jetscreamer> tigrux:  i forget exactly where, but not very far down... 2nd or 3rd iirc
[06:55] <twb> YukiCuss: well, it means I can be self-righteously indignant.
[06:56] <intelikey> nomasteryoda|w mmm and ?
[06:56] <tigrux> jetscreamer: Yes, I know that. But debian always require to modify files.
[06:56] <jetscreamer> Grarg: avicemux and acidrip are gui
[06:56] <YukiCuss> twb, bah!
[06:56] <SmrtJustin> DBO: whats makedev do?
[06:56] <jetscreamer> err Grark ^^
[06:56] <DBO> SmrtJustin, it makes the /dev directory
[06:56] <jetscreamer> tigrux: what?
[06:56] <DBO> leave it on
[06:56] <SmrtJustin> DBO: gotcha
[06:56] <jetscreamer> Grark: make that avidemux and acidrip
[06:56] <jetscreamer> are gui
[06:56] <SmrtJustin> DBO: whats vbesave?
[06:56] <tigrux> jetscreamer: I thought I had to add PENTIUMM in any debian/whatever
[06:57] <jetscreamer> tigrux: no you do make menuconfig, and a couple lines down inside a node you will find the cpu optimization section
[06:57] <DBO> SmrtJustin, its for your video card bios, lets you save the current configurate
[06:57] <DBO> leave it on
[06:57] <TheMonoTone> I'm looking for a library, libavcodec, how would I find the package that provides it?
[06:57] <TheMonoTone> there is no libavcodec, only libavcodec-dev...
[06:57] <DBO> s/configurate/configuration
[06:58] <jetscreamer> TheMonoTone: it's probably in that non-free repo
[06:58] <tigrux> jetscreamer: But in what directory? After untarring the .tar.bz2 linux-source provides? Does it have all the patches applied?
[06:58] <jetscreamer> !mplayer
[06:58] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:58] <blindx> is there a switch i could put on apt-get to make it download the depends as well?
[06:58] <TheMonoTone> I'm doing opencv
[06:58] <TheMonoTone> but I suppose that may help
[06:58] <intelikey> !plf
[06:58] <ubotu> it has been said that plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[06:59] <blindx>
[06:59] <jetscreamer> tigrux: it's make menuconfig, when you config the new kernel. you cd into the source dir and run make menuconfig
[06:59] <intelikey> the dickens you say blindx
[06:59] <tigrux> DBO: Did you already try marillat?
[06:59] <twb> blindx: apt-get should do that automatically.
[06:59] <jetscreamer> the patches should be in the ubuntu kernel source already you shouldn't have to mess with patching
[06:59] <blindx> hm. maybe it was giving me another error, twb. let me find out.
[06:59] <SmrtJustin> DBO: theres one thats getting cut off, it starts: stop-read
[06:59] <twb> blindx: what are you installing?
[07:00] <DBO> tigrux, you mean debian?  no
[07:00] <jetscreamer> tigrux: apt-get install libncurses5-dev btw if you havent
[07:00] <blindx> ffmpeg
[07:00] <badr> Hi everyone. Sometimes Ubuntu will just permanently freeze. Is there any way I can find out what program is causing this?
[07:00] <TheMonoTone> thank you!
[07:00] <DBO> SmrtJustin, which one?
[07:00] <tigrux> jetscreamer: Ok, there is an easy way of test it. If the new kernel has stuff about ricoh, then it has the patches.
[07:00] <word> intelikey or void^ are you sure that the line was supposed to go into modprobe.conf?
[07:00] <torpedo|dog> badr, just out of curiosity, are you running Beagle?
[07:00] <money> hello
[07:00] <Codename_V> badr: the kernel.  I get that when my memory is bad.
[07:00] <tigrux> DBO: marillat is plenty of barely legal packages.
[07:00] <SmrtJustin> DBO: is there anyway I can make the service column wider?
[07:00] <intelikey> word i would have made a script and ran it from init....
[07:01] <money> i hear ubuntu is good, i have to switch from debian   to ubuntu, i can't take debian anymore, theres way too many problems with it
[07:01] <jetscreamer> marillat is for debian, don't use it for ubuntu
[07:01] <blindx> I got two "(whatever) needs to be installed, but will not be installed" and three "(whatever) needs to be installed, but (something else) is to be installed"
[07:01] <SmrtJustin> DBO: so I can read it
[07:01] <twb> blindx: works for me.
[07:01] <money> anyway, i need  to  do a network install
[07:01] <badr> torpedo|dog, : No, I don't think so.
[07:01] <twb> blindx: you may prefer "aptitude install ffmpeg"
[07:01] <torpedo|dog> Alright, if you had it, you'd know.
[07:01] <jetscreamer> there is an ubuntu specific flavor of marillat but i can never remember the name
[07:01] <badr> Codename_V, : so you mean I should run memtest?
[07:01] <twb> blindx: don't forget to run "aptitude update" regularly.
[07:01] <jetscreamer> !mplayer
[07:01] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:01] <Codename_V> badr: wouldn't hurt.
[07:01] <blindx> Same errors, twb.
[07:01] <TheMonoTone> that still doesn't help me
[07:01] <jetscreamer> !sources
[07:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:01] <TheMonoTone> with ffmpeg
[07:01] <twb> blindx: what does "aptitude --version" report?
[07:01] <TheMonoTone> and its lack of libraries/includes
[07:02] <word> intelikey: Uh....
[07:02] <DBO> SmrtJustin, ok, I see what you are trying to say now... and AFAIK, no you cant
[07:02] <twb> blindx: aptitude 0.4 or 0.2?
[07:02] <jetscreamer> you need that other source TheMonoTone
[07:02] <TheMonoTone> I added it
[07:02] <blindx> aptitude <IP_ADDRESS> compiled at Sep 22 2005 09:10:29
[07:02] <Codename_V> badr: I'm kinda partial to memtest86+.  it's more up to date.  faster.  and less buggy.
[07:02] <jetscreamer> then apt-get update
[07:02] <twb> blindx: OK, you have the old, shitty one.
[07:02] <jetscreamer> !find ffmpeg
[07:02] <TheMonoTone> how do I know which package to add?
[07:02] <DBO> SmrtJustin, leave that stop one as is
[07:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'ffmpeg' (2 shown): ffmpeg ;; gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg.
[07:02] <blindx> oh, great! :D
[07:02] <twb> blindx: are you using breezy still?
[07:02] <ron_> i'm only getting sound through 1 speaker. anyone have a clue why this is?
[07:02] <skpl> is there anyway to open up a file browser with su priveldges?
[07:02] <TheMonoTone> it says its already installed...?
[07:02] <blindx> still? i just installed it two days ago
[07:02] <money> http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/ , is that a good guide for installing ubuntu on my system?
[07:02] <jetscreamer> should jsut work then TheMonoTone
[07:02] <Codename_V> skpl: gsudo or something?  gsudo nautilus
[07:03] <twb> blindx: OK.  You'll have to resolve the conflicts manually.
[07:03] <TheMonoTone> missing library somehow to build with ffmpeg support in opencv :-(
[07:03] <jetscreamer> TheMonoTone: you may or may not need some other codecs
[07:03] <twb> blindx: unless you wanna upgrade to dapper? ;-P
[07:03] <tewn> skpl, you can launch from terminal as sudo su "gedit"
[07:03] <blindx> that sounds like fun, twb.
[07:03] <badr> Codename_V, : Ok, I will try running that. However, I dual boot with WinXP which I haven't seen freeze yet, thought I use it less.
[07:03] <blindx> twb, is this going to interfere with my laziness at all?
[07:03] <money> i need  to netinstall ubuntu, because i don't have a cd drive, can someone please help
[07:03] <twb> blindx: http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/aptitude/aptitude-intro.html
[07:03] <intelikey> word like this as root     " echo '<put the full command string here>' > /etc/init.d/mytv.sh ;chmod 700 /etc/init.d/mytv.sh ;ln -s /etc/init.d/mytv.sh /etc/rcS.d/S56mytv  "
[07:03] <twb> blindx: read that.  It will build character.
[07:03] <TheMonoTone> it specifically says
[07:03] <blindx> lol.
[07:03] <TheMonoTone> libavcodec
[07:03] <skpl> i dislike being unable to delete files with my file browser
[07:03] <swordwww> i had installed eggdrop.. but where tha heck is /eggdrop? where i put my .conf files?
[07:03] <blindx> build character
[07:03] <blindx> That's why they dig holes ;)
[07:03] <TheMonoTone> I don't get why there's a libavcodec-dev package
[07:03] <skpl> their should be a menu item, su file browser
[07:03] <TheMonoTone> but no library
[07:03] <skpl> or maybe not
[07:04] <skpl> im just talkIN CRAZY
[07:04] <tigrux> jetscreamer: You are right! The kernel source provided by linuc-source has all the patches!
[07:04] <swordwww> :(
[07:04] <ESPOiG> when installin ubuntu on ur hdd can u actually format the drive before installin the files, cuz i just set them up and it seems to still keep my settings from the last time i installed ubuntu ?
[07:04] <TheMonoTone> hrm