[03:45] <dlynes> kris__, huh?  what does installing graphics drivers have to do with network manager?
[03:45] <Curly_Q> I tried drag and drop and it does'nt work. Errors.
[03:45] <kris__> dlynes: I need the internet in order to run "apt-get install xorg-drivers" or whatnot.
[03:46] <dlynes> kris__, oh....and /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't fix it for you?
[03:46] <Curly_Q> I am using SSH Tectia Pro. Nice program.
[03:46] <gloom> hi there again
[03:46] <dlynes> kris__, network manager is still a non-X daemon running in the background I think
[03:46] <ultraparadigm> Does X handle multiple displays well?
[03:46] <dlynes> kris__, gnome-network-manager or something like that is the gui component
[03:46] <jrib> !permissions > Curly_Q
[03:47] <Emanon> occasionally ultraparadigm
[03:47] <ultraparadigm> :/
[03:47] <gloom> Is there any software for linux, to add live effects to a webcam?
[03:47] <tucemiux> !forum
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> ultraparadigm, depends on what gfx card(s) you are using - but X itself has no problems
[03:47] <kris__> dlynes: No.  :-D
[03:48] <papul> i want syntax highlighting for nano
[03:48] <ultraparadigm> Zykotick9, well i'm using a Nvidia with the proprietary drivers.  But the second display is going to be a TV through the HDMI cable
[03:49] <gloom> i want live effects. Like those windows software that let you use the webcam in other app, like skype, but add some cool effects like sunglasses or masks. Does linux has an equivalent?
[03:49] <cryptide> anybody have chrome crash like once a day or so?
[03:49] <Curly_Q> I tried to use the SSH with it's GUI to change file permissions but that didn't work. I suppose I need to give the SSH client permission to change permissions.
[03:49] <ZykoticK9> papul, http://wiki.linuxhelp.net/index.php/Nano_Syntax_Highlighting
[03:49] <rfa_> papul better use vim ;)
[03:49] <Emanon> no cryptide i dont use that fail-browser
[03:49] <ZykoticK9> ultraparadigm, "should" work fine -- nvidia is really good with dual displays
[03:50] <mkquist> cryptide: nope, and I like chrome
[03:50] <Planet_x> nvm figured it out
[03:50] <cryptide> Emanon, while crashing is def a fail... it is much faster than ff
[03:50] <cryptide> mkquist, you have flashblock on or something?
[03:50] <mkquist> cryptide: no
[03:50] <CAPcap> cryptide i run chrome with no issues
[03:50] <CAPcap> and i dont have any special settings.
[03:51] <ultraparadigm> Sykotick9, K thanks.  Sofar I'm not getting anything.  But I'll keep seperemmenting with the settings.  i don't see anything about more than one display so far.  Maybe I have to start tthe computer with the display plugged in.
[03:51] <dlynes> kris__, to scan, do iwlist scanning
[03:51] <Emanon> are you talking to boot or to browse cryptide?
[03:51] <Emanon> cause fasterfox makes browsing very snappy in ff
[03:51] <mkquist> cryptide: the worst thing i've had happen is when i reopen it i have to click on restore to get old pages back...
[03:51] <papul> rfa_, i dont know vim
[03:51] <papul> rfa_, when i type :q sometimes it get entered as text and sometimes as command
[03:51] <xorxes> How can I access the GUI for managing users from the command line?
[03:52] <xorxes> nvm
[03:52] <rfa_> papul yeah, vim is a little complicated at start
[03:52] <cryptide> Emanon, browse
[03:52] <cryptide> maybe it is my delicious plugin
[03:52] <Lord_Devi> In a simple for loop parsing files like:  "for _file in $( ls /foo/bar/ ); do .... done" How might I fille $_file with absolute paths rather than filenames?
[03:52] <Emanon> try fasterfox next time your on ff
[03:53] <bpocock> jrib: i tried adding a blank line... could there a problem with the executable file thats allowing it to run on boot but preventing it from running at intervals?
[03:53] <mkquist> cryptide: whats delicious do?
[03:53] <Emanon> users-admin xorxes
[03:53] <cryptide> mkquist, links up my bookmarks across multiple machines/browsers
[03:54] <Curly_Q> Xorxes try VNC.
[03:55] <CAPcap> What (and where) is the display configuration file in Karmic? I changed monitor settings earlier and it needed to modify it. I let it do it automatically and now everything is all wonky.
[03:55] <xiven> Do any kind of donations come in to help volunteers at all?
[03:55] <xiven> I mean like registered volunteers
[03:56] <tamran> hi everyone
[03:56] <tamran> I'm looking for some advice
[03:56] <mkquist> tamran: ask away
[03:56] <kris__> !ask | tamran
[03:56] <tamran> I have need for the kernel that comes with 8.04 (because of an old video card which is not supported by ati anymore) but want to run a lot of the latest apps
[03:57] <tamran> what is the best way of going about that?
[03:57] <tamran> should I install 8.04 and hack upgrades? or should I install the latest one and hack downgrades?
[03:57] <kris__> tamran: It's going to be a bit of work, but you should go to packages.ubuntu.com and manually download the package for the kernel from there.
[03:57] <papul> ZykoticK9, in the link that ya gave me i am finding some difficulties
[03:58] <tamran> kris__: so use the latest ubuntu revision and get the 2.6.26 kernel?
[03:58] <ZykoticK9> papul, sorry man i really can't help - i'm a vi guy myself, when you asked i was curious if it was possible and found that link
[03:58] <kris__> tamran: Ya.
[03:58] <tamran> ok, thanks a bunch
[03:58] <kris__> That's what I'm doing right now, for an issue with a joystick.
[03:58] <kris__> tamran: Best of luck.
[03:58] <tamran> kris__: thanks buddy! :)
[03:58] <CAPcap> What (and where) is the display configuration file in Karmic? I changed monitor settings earlier and it needed to modify it. I let it do it automatically and now everything is all wonky.
[03:59] <papul> ZykoticK9, the link has zcat /usr/doc/nano-x.x.x/nanorc.sample.gz >~/.nanorc but i cant find /usr/doc :(
[03:59] <tamran> kris__: here's hoping!!
[03:59] <papul> anyone else please help
[03:59] <papul> the link has "zcat /usr/doc/nano-x.x.x/nanorc.sample.gz >~/.nanorc" but i cant find /usr/doc :(
[04:01] <papul> someone please help
[04:02] <papul> someone please help
[04:02] <papul> i want sytax highlighting in nano
[04:03] <CAPcap> What (and where) is the display configuration file in Karmic? I changed monitor settings earlier and it needed to modify it. I let it do it automatically and now everything is all wonky.
[04:04] <isolat3dsh33p> CAPcap, System->Prefs->Display?
[04:05] <Grogyan> How would I find out what com port I would be using in Ubuntu 9.10 for a bluetooth serial module?
[04:06] <Lord_Devi> what can i use inside a for loop to obtain full path names? "for _file in $( ls /foo/bar/ )" only produces basenames for me
[04:06] <Kamokow> ron
[04:06] <CAPcap> isolat3dsh33p, no thats what messed it up, i was using an additional external monitor on my laptop with different settings from my current one. when i configured it, it told me it needed to modify some file. it gave me the option of doing it myself or the program doing it automatically. i let it do it automatically but now everything is all screwy and i need to restore it.
[04:06] <soreau> LobbyZ: for i in /path/to/* ?
[04:07] <soreau> CAPcap: What does 'xrandr' show?
[04:08] <Kamokow> I need to do a backup of 2 drives to an external drive. Can someone recommend some software to do so?
[04:08] <ToastyJustice> Hey guys. Would anyone be able to help me with a graphics issue in 9.10?
[04:08] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there a pizza timer app?  Something in the task bar to let me know when my pizza is free?
[04:08] <soreau> Kamokow: cp ?
[04:08] <soreau> ToastyJustice: Not unless you ask your question :(
[04:08] <soreau> dsnyders: Yes
[04:09] <Kamokow> soreau: Well, I just wanted a simple backup program, cp was my fallback :P
[04:09] <CAPcap> soreau, http://paste.ubuntu.com/394440/
[04:09] <ToastyJustice> Well, I went out and got a radeon 4350 for an older machine that needed a graphics card. So, I install it, but in 9.10 my mouse is choppy, like it runs at 4 fps or something
[04:09] <dsnyders> soreau, Great!  That's a load off my mind.
[04:10] <CAPcap> soreau, im obviously not sure that is the issue, but it thats the only thing i can think of that would be causing problems. all of my problems have been since that monitor use.
[04:10] <soreau> CAPcap: that shows you have a single monitor connected at 1024x768. I assume you want something different?
[04:10] <Pici> dsnyders: Theres a tea timer applet iirc. You can program any amount of time in it.  Let me see if I can remember the package name.
[04:10] <mapid> /etc/X11/xorg.conf should this file exist?
[04:10] <papul> mapid, lolzz
[04:11] <dsnyders> mapid, You'd think so, but recently they've changed X so that it is not strictly required.
[04:11] <Pici> dsnyders: Its either timer-applet or teatime
[04:11] <soreau> mapid: If you are using any recent version of X, it is smart enough to guess which open source driver and options are needed
[04:11] <papul> i want sytax highlighting in nano. please help]
[04:11] <soreau> mapid: It would definitely be needed if using proprietary drivers
[04:11] <ToastyJustice> It's weird. I get 717 fps with fgl_glxgears, but I can barely use my mouse
[04:12] <mapid> soreau, I am trying to get my ATI card identified by the OS, been following how to setup "fglrx"
[04:12] <mechcozmo> hi, i have trouble getting a wireless card to connect at startup using ndiswrapper
[04:12] <Pici> papul: I wrote a short blog entry a while ago about enabling that: see http://nullcortex.com/2008/07/nano-nano/
[04:12] <dsnyders> mapid, They've also changed the key combo to restart X from CTRL-ALT-Backspace to ALT-PrintScreen-K
[04:12] <soreau> mapid: Which model as reported by 'lspci|grep VGA'?
[04:12] <mechcozmo> i can see the wireless network, and i can connect, but getting an IP address times out
[04:13] <CAPcap> soreau, no. i used an second monitor this afternoon to test the VGA out on my laptop since I knew the S-Video didn't work. I set up the monitor and then shut it off and disconnected because I was just testing. Since then though I have been having major display issues. Examples: A video that previously worked no longer plays. When I open, close, move, or resize windows i get this fuzzy leftover distorted graphic area(s).
[04:13] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, which chipset?
[04:13] <mapid> soreau, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV530LE [Radeon X1600]
[04:13] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: Netgear WG511v2... Marvell chipset
[04:14] <soreau> mapid: fglrx no longer supports that card. You should have open radeon driver already working if fglrx is not installed
[04:14] <soreau> CAPcap: Which model card is it?
[04:14] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, eww.. hmm timing out could mean a few things I suppose maybe network is busy/congested or poor signal
[04:14] <mechcozmo> mechcozmo: the one "Made in China", because there's a difference
[04:15] <mapid> soreau, the thing is it did not work out out of the box - I'm currently using quite low resolution and in settings the resolution and display frequency are dimmed out
[04:15] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: network is good, a lot of other devices on it with no issue
[04:15] <CAPcap> soreau, ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (ie, ancient).
[04:15] <soreau> mapid: How have you tried to install fglrx?
[04:15] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: it also was working fine with a different card
[04:16] <papul> Pici, thanks did it
[04:16] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, the latter WG511 v3 (note the space in between) was also made in china
[04:16] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, its probably the driver issue I suppose
[04:16] <mapid> soreau, yes, but seems that the guide is for older versions of Ubuntu, the X system or xorg must have updated at some stage
[04:16] <ToastyJustice> If anyone has any suggestions for my issue, I'll be here for a little while. Likely perusing google for answers
[04:16] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: the card definitely is a v2 made in china
[04:16] <soreau> CAPcap: Have you tried to see what file it changed? ie. maybe rename or remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf then restart X
[04:16] <mapid> like, cannot find /etc/X11/xorg.conf which the tutorial references
[04:17] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: there are, get this, two versions of the v2 card
[04:17] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, I have that card too :) the one with the black coloured pastic bit
[04:17] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: yup, yup
[04:17] <soreau> mapid: What makes you think the radeon driver isn't working?
[04:17] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: do you have a v2 card that was made in china?
[04:17] <mapid> soreau, the fact that I cannot change my display resolution
[04:18] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, http://daemonizer.de/prism54/wg511/
[04:18] <soreau> mapid: How are you trying to change the resolution?
[04:18] <mapid> soreau, Preferences, Display, but the options just are not there, they're zeroed and dimmed out
[04:18] <dgfitch_> what is the recommended way to use Network-Manager or get wifi working at all with a non-gnome window manager (ratpoison) in karmic?
[04:18] <CAPcap> soreau, http://paste.ubuntu.com/394442/     thats my xorg.conf
[04:18] <blakkheim> dgfitch_: use wicd
[04:19] <dgfitch_> blakkheim: thanks, reading
[04:19] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: ah, yes; the one with the black bit, no spaces.
[04:19] <soreau> mapid: Can you pastebin the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer' and 'xrandr' ?
[04:19] <pope22> is there a media player with the Amazon MP3 Store integrated into it?
[04:20] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, yeah I have that one but my one is made in taiwan.. the other two I have, one is from taiwan and the other from china
[04:20] <mapid> soreau, the data is short: renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 (RV530 71CE) 20090101 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[04:20] <soreau> CAPcap: The only thing I could recommend is trying without xorg.conf or enabling kms/dri2 by booting with radeon.modeset=1
[04:20] <sambagirl> what really amazes me is how HP has created the printer drivers for their products for open source os's and they work! :)
[04:20] <soreau> mapid: But xrandr is not so short..
[04:20] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: i'm using the mrv8335 driver
[04:20] <mapid> soreau, it gives nothing
[04:21] <soreau> mapid: Nothing??
[04:21] <soreau> mapid: Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[04:21] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: the 2802W drivers never worked
[04:21] <cbleslie> sambagirl, ZING!
[04:22] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: namely, the driver loaded but could not find hardware...
[04:22] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, yeah I haven't tried much because you needed to use ndiswrapper which was a pain.. however the earlier versions which I also do own don't require to use ndiswrapper, they are different chipsets
[04:22] <CAPcap> how do i delete xorg.conf it says i dont have permission. i need to be root. but im horrible at using the terminal
[04:22] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: i have certainly noticed that 'is a pain' thing
[04:22] <mapid> soreau, http://pastebin.com/2V8EcRCa
[04:22] <shazbotmcnasty> CAPcap, why are you trying to delete xorg.conf?
[04:22] <cbleslie> CAPcap, sudo then your delete command
[04:22] <_Techie_> howcome i dont seem to have a /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[04:23] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: do you happen to have the driver CD?
[04:23] <CAPcap> soreau,  how do i delete xorg.conf it says i dont have permission. i need to be root. but im horrible at using the terminal
[04:23] <CAPcap> shazbotmcnasty, because im having problems
[04:23] <shazbotmcnasty> CAPcap, do 'sudo rm <wherever it is>"
[04:23] <psycho_oreos> nope, I got the cards from fleabay, but you can still download the drivers online either way
[04:23] <mapid> CAPcap, add sudo before the command to use as root
[04:23] <blakkheim> !grub2 > _Techie_
[04:24] <CAPcap> i know how to be root its the deleteing i didnt know mapid
[04:24] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: yes, but one problem with that method... cannot extract the drivers out of their EXEs
[04:24] <CAPcap> thanks shazbotmcnasty
[04:24] <_Techie_> blakkheim, thankyou
[04:24] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: none of the how-tos have worked, frustratingly
[04:24] <soreau> CAPcap: 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak' will move the file from/to the respective locations
[04:24] <Creedence> hello ladies
[04:24] <CAPcap> thanks soreau
[04:25] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, I'd give this a go: http://driveragent.com/0/archive/2e632d03/Marvell-Libertas-802.11b/g-Wireless-(8335)#preview
[04:25] <soreau> mapid: I said /var/log/Xorg.0.log not /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:25] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: i think that's the driver i have loaded currently
[04:25] <soreau> mapid: I find it hard to believe 'xrandr' without quotes in your terminal gives nothing
[04:26] <soreau> mapid: But this is probably why the display settings are grayed out
[04:26] <mapid> soreau, I am absolutely positive that I gave /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:26] <soreau> mapid: and your X log could give a hint
[04:26] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, and no dice? heh I'd swap the working one previous back in :)
[04:26] <soreau> mapid: Oh you did, sorry
[04:27] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: the other working card was PCI, not PCMCIA
[04:27] <intok> How can I get ubuntu to realize that this volume isn't already mounted? Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/75F6A74274E61336
[04:27] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: sort of want that slot open
[04:27] <mapid> soreau, xrandr: http://pastebin.com/uj24JHPD
[04:27] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, so you have a desktop or laptop?
[04:28] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: desktop
[04:28] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: VIA MII10000 miniITX board
[04:28] <soreau> mapid: Ah! so it does give output
[04:28] <mapid> soreau, seems, I don't know how I failed at the grep
[04:28] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: and yea, those are the exact same drivers i have loaded now...
[04:29] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, and so the wireless card is plugged into its own PCMCIA slot? or with a PCI adapter?
[04:29] <CAPcap> soreau, THANKS SO MUCH! I just rebooted now that xorg.conf is out of the way and everything is perfect again! A Million thanks and more!
[04:29] <soreau> mapid: ok so what resolution(s) are you trying to set?
[04:29] <soreau> CAPcap: Great!
[04:29] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: it has its own slot.  this board has 1 PCI slot, 1 PCMCIA slot, and 1 CF slot
[04:30] <dsnyders> Pici, Pizza arrived before software was installed.  Go figure!
[04:30] <CAPcap> You are always so helpful ^_^
[04:30] <mapid> soreau, I'd prefer 1650x1050
[04:30] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, well in that case I'd probably get rid of the card personally, that wg511v2 and get a supported card.. no need to mess around with ndiswrapper honestly
[04:31] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: bah... that means spending money... :-p
[04:31] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, or sell that card and get a supported one, its either one or the other
[04:31] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: know of any good N cards?
[04:31] <soreau> mapid: Can you show the output of 'cvt 1650 1050 $HZ' where $HZ arg is optional and could be set to the hz for the resolution
[04:32] <shazbotmcnasty> how do I list all installed applications?
[04:32] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, only the 3 chipsets I can recommend, Atheros, Ralink and Intel
[04:32] <mapid> soreau, http://pastebin.com/vGNzP1rW
[04:32] <FirstSgt> So... um... I need to recompile my kernel, but it doesn't exist in /usr/src/linux... :P
[04:32] <FirstSgt> how do i get 'linux' in my /usr/src?
[04:33] <psycho_oreos> FirstSgt, you need linux source
[04:33] <supernoob> i lost the stuff that was at the top of my desktop...there were tab things that said sometthing like "Administration,System," and something else i think...can you help me to get them back?
[04:33] <FirstSgt> psycho_oreos: kernel source?
[04:33] <psycho_oreos> FirstSgt, yes
[04:33] <CAPcap> supernoob, is the entire upper panel gone, or just the menus?
[04:33] <supernoob> just the menu's...
[04:34] <soreau> mapid: Try this: xrandr --newmode "1656x1050_60.00"  144.75  1656 1760 1936 2216  1050 1053 1063 1089 -hsync +vsync && xrandr --addmode DVI-0 "1656x1050_60.00" && xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode "1656x1050_60.00"
[04:34] <supernoob> i found a way to add little icon thingy's, but i want what was there before :(
[04:34] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: well, thanks anyway
[04:34] <CAPcap> right click > add to panel > main menu
[04:34] <CAPcap> supernoob, do you understand that?
[04:35] <mapid> soreau, xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1360x1360 (desired size 1656x1050)
[04:35] <ToastyJustice> soreau: once you get mapid going, any chance you could try to help me?
[04:35] <supernoob> i did that and it just adds a little icon :(
[04:35] <soreau> ToastyJustice: Sure. Just state your question with as much detail as you can
[04:35] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, there are some chipset manufacturers out there that have yet to open themselves to the linux community.. in the meantime one can only deal with it via ndiswrapper or their proprietary driver.. and ndiswrapper is not a perfect solution either
[04:36] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: i'd still like to know how i can connect to the network, but fail to get an IP... sometimes
[04:36] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: (most times)
[04:36] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, the only true way is to purchase ones that do have linux support either from manufacturer themselves or those that are made available via 3rd party
[04:36] <xangua> supernoob: try with 'menu bar'
[04:36] <soreau> mapid: That is the problem. You need to increase your resolution by adjusting the Virtual line in xorg.conf (or possibly by getting rid of X conf file)
[04:36] <supernoob> menu bar?
[04:36] <FirstSgt> i have all the repositories, what is the package name to apt-get ?
[04:37] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, its probably an issue with the driver or ndiswrapper. Furthermore its not easy to say when you're dealing with a binary blob for example
[04:37] <mapid> soreau, ok, can you say where the config is located?
[04:37] <supernoob> got it!
[04:37] <supernoob> woot
[04:37] <supernoob> thatnks so much
[04:37] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: yeah... i'll dig around for a decent card
[04:37] <soreau> mapid: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:37] <ToastyJustice> soreau: I installed a 4350 in a machine that needed a graphics card so I could run ubuntu 9.10. However, the mouse moves really choppy and makes it hard to do much. I've tried both the open source and fglrx drivers, with no change. However, running the gears apps, everythign seems to run fine except the mouse
[04:37] <CAPcap> supernoob, no congratz
[04:37] <CAPcap> oops
[04:37] <CAPcap> No prob**
[04:37] <mapid> soreau, the file is empty
[04:38] <lanzelloth> I can't connect to a wireless network from the gnome network-manager, it's a straightforward 128bit wep 13 ascii digits passphrase
[04:38] <soreau> ToastyJustice: My recommendation would be to get rid of fglrx and use the open radeon drivers. Of course on 9.10 there is no 3D acceleration by default for that model card and the open driver
[04:38] <blakkheim> ToastyJustice: next time, don't buy from ati - enemy of your freedom
[04:39] <FirstSgt> OK... so there is an apt-get source command... but how do i tell which kernel I am using?
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> FirstSgt, its actually called linux-source, use aptitude/synaptic to search for it
[04:39] <soreau> mapid: That is normal. You can create a default one with 'Xorg -configure' IIRC
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> FirstSgt, uname -r
[04:39] <ToastyJustice> soerau: Alright, I can go run the scripts to uninstall it now, shouldn't be much difference though
[04:39] <lanzelloth> I've tried using iwconfig as well: like iwconfig wlan0 essid the_essid key s:thepassphrase, but no luck
[04:40] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: well, it just connected
[04:40] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: for some reason
[04:40] <FirstSgt> psycho_oreos: thanks
[04:40] <MozillaGuerrilla> wat can i expct if i install ubuntu in "VirtualBox"?
[04:40] <psycho_oreos> mechcozmo, well your problem wasn't with connection but using it normally right?
[04:40] <psycho_oreos> FirstSgt, np
[04:40] <lanzelloth> and it's not a hardware/network issue or anything, if I boot up into windows it connects within seconds
[04:40] <xiven> Mozilla, it works alright for me
[04:41] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, why not use WPA instead of WEP?
[04:41] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: er, yes
[04:41] <mapid> soreau, seems that I need to shutdown the graphics server in order to do that, how does that happen and which command does restart the GUI?
[04:41] <mechcozmo> psycho_oreos: it just got an IP i suppose is the 'right' way to say it, but really, it just became useful
[04:41] <xiven> I keep getting a warning about vbox set for 32-bit while ubuntu is set for 16-bit..but doesn't cause any problems really
[04:41] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, that doesn't solve my problem :(, but anyway it's because of some smartphone my dad uses
[04:41] <intok> How can I get ubuntu to realize that this volume isn't already mounted? Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/75F6A74274E61336
[04:41] <pfifo> wow, running e2fsck on a 320GB drive takes forever!
[04:42] <lanzelloth> staying at my parents for the weekend
[04:42] <ZykoticK9> mapid, to create an xorg see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[04:42] <MozillaGuerrilla> awesome!! thanx. N E link off hand 4 hlp doing install in VirtualBox N E body?
[04:42] <soreau> mapid: You'd need a file with something like this in it http://pastebin.com/8N1kgUBg
[04:42] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, it should generally solve your connection problem because both windows and linux should support it, and your old man needs to upgrade his firmware on his smartphone.. WEP is not secure at all
[04:42] <ToastyJustice> blakkheim: I actually could still return it (with a minimal restockign fee or whatever) Bought it locally if a nvidia card might work better.
[04:43] <xiven> Mozila, open VirtualBox GUI, tell it to capture your CD/DVD drive, have cd in the drive, create new vm..and its pretty self explanatory from there
[04:43] <Anonehawk> Need halp, Ubuntu won't boot.
[04:43] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, yeah, but when I end up somewhere where I have no control over the network then I wouldn't be able to connect
[04:43] <Anonehawk> I get a beep, and a boot screen
[04:43] <psycho_oreos> !details | Anonehawk
[04:43] <MozillaGuerrilla> ill b using a live disc so it shld b 1..2..3
[04:43] <ieynr> hello. i noticed some of my /etc/network/interfaces just have an auto lo or something and it's my gui network preferences that actually retains the static eth0 information that I put in. but is there a text file it tosses that info into?
[04:43] <pfifo> How do the other filesystem types stack up in regards to disk check duration? Ive been a hardcore fan of ext2 for ages, but as my hardrives get biger maybe I should consider something newer.
[04:44] <Anonehawk> I have Ubuntu 9.0, It will not boot, It will beep and give a black boot screen
[04:44] <xiven> I would not use a live disc to install inside virtualbox
[04:44] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, try wicd then I suppose
[04:44] <psycho_oreos> Anonehawk, there's no such thing as 9.0
[04:44] <Anonehawk> I'm sorry, it was a typo.
[04:44] <psycho_oreos> its either 9.04 or 9.10
[04:44] <MozillaGuerrilla> Oh no wat wld b my bst option?
[04:44] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, it works fine with wicd but then when I go back home, wicd has some issues
[04:44] <Anonehawk> It's 9,10
[04:45] <Anonehawk> Sorry bro
[04:45] <xiven> Doesn't your live cd have an install option at the boot menu???
[04:45] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, and network manager works fine from there?
[04:45] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, I wish i was more educated about these networking stuff
[04:45] <psycho_oreos> Anonehawk, it might be acpi issue
[04:45] <Anonehawk> How fix?
[04:45] <pfifo> Anonehawk, do yo et to the rub menu?
[04:45] <amigamia> hi i am using 8.04 with ebox
[04:45] <pfifo> get*
[04:45] <Anonehawk> No
[04:45] <MozillaGuerrilla> i dnt want 2 do a duel boot if thts what ur suggestng?
[04:45] <Anonehawk> It doesn't go to Grub
[04:46] <amigamia> how do i enable ssh in ubuntu?
[04:46] <Anonehawk> It's just a black screen
[04:46] <Anonehawk> I can hit tab
[04:46] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, yea, might have something to do with having a weird wep encryption with 7 digit passphrase
[04:46] <Anonehawk> And options come up
[04:46] <psycho_oreos> !ssh | amigamia
[04:46] <Anonehawk> None of them are of any use
[04:46] <pfifo> Anonehawk, dose your computer post?
[04:46] <Guest10918> Hello, ubuntu won't connect to the internet via ethernet for some reason.  I'm trying to connect and my router has dhcp enabled.  I look in /etc/network/interfaces and there's only one entry, the one for the loopback.  what can I do to get my internet working?  Help would be greatly  appreciated.  Thank you.
[04:46] <soreau> amigamia: The client is installed by default. You would have to install the server package, IIRC
[04:46] <Anonehawk> What do you mean?
[04:46] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, no I mean your network manager not wicd back at your home
[04:47] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, network-manager works at home
[04:47] <psycho_oreos> Anonehawk, does it do the POST routine.. if it beeps usually a small beep it does
[04:47] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, but not wicd
[04:47] <pfifo> Anonehawk, dose your compter turn on, and go throuh its initial test phase?
[04:47] <Anonehawk> Yup
[04:47] <amigamia> soreau what i wanted to do was ssh from where i am in one room to this particular server i installed ubuntu and ebox on.
[04:47] <Anonehawk> I select Ubuntu (Wubi Dual-boot)
[04:47] <Anonehawk> Beep
[04:47] <MozillaGuerrilla> xiven, r u suggestng a duel boot?
[04:47] <Anonehawk> Then black boot screen
[04:47] <Anonehawk> (Not Grub)\
[04:47] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, so disable wicd and use network-manager at home and then do the vice-versa when you're at your parent's place
[04:47] <FloodBot2> Anonehawk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <pfifo> Anonehawk, dose it find a harddrive?
[04:47] <xiven> Mozilla no
[04:47] <Anonehawk> I believe so
[04:48] <apctr190> facing sound prob in ubuntu
[04:48] <pfifo> Anonehawk, do you dual boot? can you get to windows?
[04:48] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, I think there's some sort of "anti-dependency" between them I couldn't have both packages installed at the same time.
[04:48] <Anonehawk> Yes
[04:48] <Anonehawk> I'm on XP just fine
[04:48] <MozillaGuerrilla> xiven, okay im not sure but it is a more recent live disc version
[04:48] <amigamia> i am ssh'd into one server at the moment but iwanted to get into this ubuntu one
[04:48] <PsiCoLeO> hi!
[04:48] <xiven> Open up the initial VirtualBox GUI, and in the menu options you'll find mount cd/dvd drive - click that. Make sure its in the drive, and click on new machine...select Linux, then select Ubuntu..it'll ask for a few options you can select from. And then it will boot from your cd.
[04:49] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, btw if there's a wep with 7 digit passphrase (probably ascii, i'm not sure since it's all numbers) how is it padded?
[04:49] <pfifo> Anonehawk, reinstall ubuntu
[04:49] <Anonehawk> Well, if I do that, all my data is lost obviously
[04:49] <ToastyJustice> soreau: uninstalled fglrx and rebooted. mouse is still problematic though
[04:49] <amigamia> i called up ebox  but it is not enalbed and i cant turn it on to ssh in
[04:49] <Anonehawk> Sure there's not another way?
[04:50] <xiven> When it boots from the CD, press the arrow key until its highlithing Install...virtualbox will run it like a normal install, except it will be installed inside VirtualBox as a Virtual Machine, instead of as a true dual-boot
[04:50] <pfifo> Anonehawk, make a backup from the live CD before you install the stuff in /home should cover all
[04:50] <Anonehawk> Dual-booted from Wubi
[04:51] <MozillaGuerrilla> xiven, but will it install 2 or jst boot?
[04:51] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, I don't think it'll be padded
[04:51] <xiven> It will install it completely
[04:51] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:51] <pfifo> Anonehawk, it sounds ike windows over wrote your MBR, did you install XP after installing UBuntu? Did you run a recovery disk from your computer manufacturer?
[04:51] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, 9.04
[04:51] <Anonehawk> No
[04:51] <xiven> And the next time you click "Start" it will boot into your new Ubuntu instal
[04:51] <Anonehawk> Neither of those
[04:52] <MozillaGuerrilla> xiven, hey thanx alot 4 the help hav a grt nite!!!
[04:52] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, but wep has to be 26 digit hex which is 13 digit ascii ???
[04:52] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, did you install all the updates? and/or is this an upgraded version from previous
[04:52] <pfifo> Anonehawk, you said you can not get to the grub menu right?
[04:52] <Anonehawk> No
[04:52] <xiven> Remember to unmount the cd after the install.
[04:52] <Anonehawk> It only brings up a black boot screen
[04:52] <Anonehawk> If I hit tab
[04:52] <BigMoose> Hello, ubuntu won't connect to the internet via ethernet for some reason.  I'm trying to connect and my router has dhcp enabled.  I look in /etc/network/interfaces and there's only one entry, the one for the loopback.  what can I do to get my internet working?  Help would be greatly  appreciated.  Thank you.
[04:52] <pfifo> Anonehawk, it goes straight to XP
[04:52] <Anonehawk> It shows options
[04:52] <Anonehawk> No
[04:52] <Anonehawk> I just said what it does
[04:52] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, no, but I do use the newest stable wicd
[04:52] <FloodBot2> Anonehawk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, anyway, my suspicion is that wicd doesn't know how to handle short wep keys
[04:54] <amigamia> ahh the server package for ssh is not installed by default?
[04:54] <Anonehawk> It does not boot Windows, it does not boot Grub, it is a black screen after a beep. I can hit tab and options will come up (Note: Not OS's)
[04:54] <Jordan_U> amigamia: Correct.
[04:54] <amigamia> umm
[04:54] <MozillaGuerrilla> xiven, let me ask u 1 more thng, i heard if i did a CD install I cld expect  WiFi trbl?
[04:54] <pfifo> Anonehawk, i see 2 possible fixes, reinstall ubuntu, or figure out the detais about where your boot sequence is hanging and report back
[04:54] <amigamia> so i can use synapse program manager yes
[04:54] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, and network manager should be able to support 128bit WEP keys.. the issue were noted in 8.10
[04:54] <greezmunkey> lo e'body
[04:55] <amigamia> why isnt it installed by default?
[04:55] <brjann> !u > MozillaGuerrilla
[04:55] <frankcardinal> !list
[04:55] <Anonehawk> I'll try to boot and come back with more info.
[04:55] <Jordan_U> amigamia: Because a large number of desktop users don't setup passwords that are secure enough for it to be enabled by default.
[04:56] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, doesn't network-manager have some issues with the gnome-keyring? I feel that everytime i change a connection settings, nm just keeps using the old one
[04:56] <pfifo> ubottu, this isnt a P2P program? I always thought it was.
[04:56] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, that I'm not too sure off my head but you probably need root/sudo permissions to make permanent changes I think
[04:57] <amigamia> jordan_u...because i have sme server 8 beta 5 running and i use ssh all the time internally and sometimes i have in the past enabled it to be accessible via vpn but rarely.
[04:57] <amigamia> brb let me go in there
[04:58] <pfifo> ssh's -D option is the coolest trick in my book
[04:58] <greezmunkey> Is it possible to create a report detailing the properties of graphic images in a directory, beyond the ordinary filename, size etc. to include the size of the file in pixels?
[04:58] <MozillaGuerrilla> hw do i fnd private msg's?
[04:58] <ToastyJustice> soreau: any thoughts on where I can go from here?
[04:58] <pfifo> greezmunkey, see if gimp has any plugins
[04:58] <pfifo> greezmunkey, imagemajick too
[04:58] <greezmunkey> pfifo, I hadn't thought of that! :)
[04:58] <MozillaGuerrilla> ubottu, hw do i fnd private msg's?
[04:59] <scunizi> MozillaGuerrilla: what Irc client are you using?
[04:59] <sambagirl> i am looking thru synaptic program manager for ssh server now but i dont see it??
[05:00] <scunizi> sambagirl: just search for ssh
[05:00] <greezmunkey> pfifo: I'll check both, thanks! I have to modify a website that was created by splitting images :(
[05:00] <MozillaGuerrilla> with a name like mozilla guerrilla ? lol
[05:00] <MozillaGuerrilla> Chatzilla
[05:00] <enav> i need acces to another computer using ubuntu
[05:00] <enav> show my pc dont work     give me another option pleas
[05:00] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, I also did a bit of researching, 7 character password for WEP would most likely signify a 64bit WEP, though there would be around 24bit that would be specified by vendor as IV, these variables can probably be interchanged as per vendor's decisions
[05:00] <pfifo> greezmunkey, also your probbally using nautilus, other 'explorer like' programs may give different details
[05:01] <scunizi> MozillaGuerrilla: in the list of channels you should see another listing that will be the private message
[05:01] <sambagirl> i found it thanks
[05:01] <sambagirl> i think this is it anyway
[05:01] <BigMoose> i cant connect to the internet on my ubuntu box, can someone please help me
[05:01] <pfifo> openssh-server, memorize that
[05:02] <psycho_oreos> BigMoose, using wireless or wired?
[05:02] <BigMoose> wired
[05:02] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, hmm, thx. But i'm really sure it's a 128 bit network as that's how the router's set up. I'll try posting this on the forum as I'm going to bed. Thanks for the help
[05:03] <BigMoose> psycho_oreos: a wired connection
[05:03] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, there's another workaround, using a command line tool known as wpa_supplicant
[05:03] <psycho_oreos> BigMoose, I noticed, and you can't get IP addresses, etc?
[05:03] <greezmunkey> pfifo: Yes, if I right click a file, select properties, then choose the image tab, it gives the info I want. My issue is that I have to weed through 250 some images!
[05:03] <sambagirl> i picked a bunch of stuff i saw. there is alot to choose from
[05:03] <Zenker> someone please help, i clicked on reflection in ccsm and it froze my puter, i am currently running off disk how can i remove/disable compiz or its settings or any ideas on what 2 do?
[05:04] <scunizi> lanzelloth: psycho_oreos there's also wicd instead of network-manager
[05:04] <naresh> hi is there someone to help me?
[05:04] <psycho_oreos> scunizi, that was suggested way back before :)
[05:04] <scunizi> psycho_oreos: ah.. came in late.. didn't catch that.
[05:04] <BigMoose> psycho_oreos: my /etc/network/interfaces file only has one entry, the one for the loopback
[05:04] <lanzelloth> psycho_oreos, I realize I'll have to educate myself on that eventually. The reason I'm not upgrading to 9.10 is because I want to switch to arch, but then I realized I better know about troubleshooting connection issues like this, because getting online is key.
[05:04] <sambagirl> this should be really interesting to see what i have when everything is all installed.
[05:04] <pfifo> greezmunkey, You shoud have taken your mothers advice and beame president, web development isnt too glorious.
[05:05] <psycho_oreos> lanzelloth, or you could easily setup your home connection as WPA and leave it as 128bit at your parent's place.. use wicd and that should work well with both
[05:05] <sambagirl> i hope i dont have to reboot
[05:05] <william> good morning.
[05:05] <aquachica> Does anyone know if Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Edition will have the ability to use the desktop again?
[05:05] <scunizi> BigMoose: you should also have "auto lo" before that line.
[05:05] <lanzelloth> good night all
[05:05] <psycho_oreos> BigMoose, sounds like your wired chipset doesn't have a driver
[05:05] <emsilva> http://i40.tinypic.com/10saxae.jpg
[05:05] <pfifo> sambagirl, installing openssh-server dosent require reboot
[05:05] <greezmunkey> pfifo: I guess I'm old school...I've not run across a web page built this way before until today! Seems like a "cheater" way to do things. Makes maintenance a b----.
[05:06] <emsilva> ugh, my bad. Wrong window :P
[05:06] <psycho_oreos> !lucid | aquachica
[05:06] <pfifo> greezmunkey, sounds like it stemmed from a photoshop PSD
[05:06] <aquachica> Thanks.
[05:06] <greezmunkey> pfifo: Exactly.
[05:06] <BigMoose> psycho_oreos does have auto lo sorry, then the loopback.  am I simply out of luck or is there anywhere I can search for a driver?
[05:06] <ToastyJustice> Would anyone else have any thoughts as to why my mouse is horridly choppy in 9.10?
[05:07] <psycho_oreos> BigMoose, you'd have to search for the driver most likely, which ubuntu are you using anyway?
[05:07] <pfifo> greezmunkey, my company hired a XHTML guy that dose all our design work, I hope to never see one of those things again
[05:07] <pfifo> !offtopic | pfifo
[05:08] <greezmunkey> pfifo:  !
[05:08] <albech> is it possible to have the rsync destination machine initialize the sync? all the tutorials i have found show the client as the machine that initialize the sync
[05:08] <apctr190> facing sound prob in ubuntu
[05:08] <MozillaGuerrilla> winXPuser, im here
[05:08] <psycho_oreos> albech, I suppose you could have the destination host running rsync daemon
[05:08] <Zenker> is there any way for me to uninstall compiz from the hd while using the live cd?
[05:08] <BigMoose> psycho_oreos: I'm using 9.10
[05:08] <greezmunkey> Is there a #gimp ?
[05:09] <pfifo> greezmunkey, Yes
[05:09] <greezmunkey> pfifo:  thanks :)
[05:09] <syrius> ubuntu pirated edition
[05:09] <psycho_oreos> BigMoose, weird, do you have any other ways to access the internet on that same machine that is having issues
[05:09] <syrius> :)
[05:09] <soreau> Zenker: Go into recovery mode and run 'chmod -x /usr/bin/compiz.real' and use the same command with +x to get it working again after you fix the setting in ccsm
[05:09] <pfifo> greezmunkey, if im not mistaken, gimp now supports PSD
[05:09] <sambagirl> thanks pfifo
[05:09] <Zenker> oh man ty soreau
[05:10] <albech> psycho_oreos, what i am worried about is that 10+ machines start to sync at the same time. Instead it would probably be better if the target initialized the syncs one at a time
[05:10] <Anonehawk> I have returned
[05:10] <Anonehawk> Wrote down what it's saying.
[05:11] <Anonehawk> When I boot, I get a short beep and a black screen that says
[05:11] <BigMoose> psycho_oreos: have a wireless card however that's not working either, a dlink dwa 552.
[05:11] <pfifo> Anonehawk, pastebin.com
[05:11] <Anonehawk> Okay
[05:11] <psycho_oreos> albech, though it shouldn't if you specified the target correctly
[05:11] <syrius> WTF
[05:12] <pfifo> coredumped?
[05:12] <Pici> Please ignore that.
[05:12] <syrius> what is coredumped?
[05:12] <psycho_oreos> crashed, logs posted
[05:12] <pfifo> syrius, the codename for M$ next failure of an OS
[05:13] <syrius> I see
[05:13] <albech> psycho_oreos, why not? i want to create a backup solution where a ton of servers rsync to one backup server. How will the clients know when to sync besides using a cron job?
[05:13] <amigamia> i never setup a root pw for 8.04. putty is asking for a root pw. i dont have one or is there a default?
[05:13] <MozillaGuerrilla> I heard if I install ubuntu I can expect WiFi trbl?
[05:13] <psycho_oreos> BigMoose, funny its supposed to work, that wireless card
[05:13] <scunizi> amigamia: use your login password
[05:13] <Anonehawk> http://pastebin.com/RVmu4TiD
[05:13] <syrius> MS PRISON7
[05:14] <Tim42> I just ran apt-get linux-source-2.6.31. Where does it extract / install to?
[05:14] <greezmunkey> pfifo: (last post on this, ot) All I have to work with is what I could get with wget!
[05:14] <pfifo> MozillaGuerrilla, some things work great and others dont, theres no set rules about what works and what dosent tho, case by case basis only.
[05:14] <syrius> it should be apt-get source linux
[05:14] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[05:15] <BigMoose> psycho_oreos i click the connection menu i have access to "Connect to Hidden Wireless Network"  however there's no entry in interfaces, should I manually add something to it?
[05:15] <amigamia> ok i used my login and sudo bash to get privis
[05:15] <Tim42> syrius: doh! thanks
[05:15] <greezmunkey> lagged...
[05:15] <syrius> that exploit doesn't seem to be very effective
[05:15] <amigamia> what is the root pw now?
[05:15] <syrius> only kicks a few users at a time
[05:15] <Anonehawk> Try to run Ubuntu, beeps, and black screen comes up saying this: http://pastebin.com/RVmu4TiD , What do?
[05:15] <amigamia> is there a root account?
[05:16] <psycho_oreos> BigMoose, check to see if ath9k is loaded under lspci -nnk
[05:16]  * pfifo is glad he dosent use a router
[05:16] <psycho_oreos> amigamia, !sudo | amigamia
[05:16] <syrius> no amigamia in ubuntu root is disabled by default
[05:16] <amigamia> umm
[05:16] <floods`> @amiga 'sudo bash'
[05:16] <psycho_oreos> !sudo | amigamia
[05:16] <Anonehawk> Anybody have any ideas?
[05:17] <MozillaGuerrilla> im jst afraid cuz i tried the live cd & it comes up missing drivers.I dnt hav anthr method of connectng once i install
[05:17] <syrius> sudo gives users limited privileges for doing certain things that may require root access like installing software. the user needs to be a member of the sudeors
[05:18] <BigMoose> psycho_oreos: it's not loaded
[05:18] <syrius> amigamia, ^^
[05:18] <Anonehawk> Really don't want to have to re-install Ubuntu
[05:18] <pfifo> Anonehawk, you are given a ash during the initrd phase, your system is somehow borked. If you have no idea whats wrong reinstall is your best option. With this general information (wont boot) I cant help you and I doubt anyone else can either/
[05:18] <syrius> it isn't that bad Anonehawk
[05:18] <MozillaGuerrilla> alonehawk, wen in doubt jst toss a "RTFM" at em' thats wat i used 2 live on
[05:18] <syrius> just make a shell script to install all the apps you use and just backup your home folder
[05:19] <BigMoose> psycho_oreos: I do see my ethernet controller in there
[05:19] <greezmunkey> lo
[05:19] <Anonehawk> I told you what it does
[05:19] <psycho_oreos> BigMoose, hmm the wireless card needs to be plugged in, maybe you need to manually modprobe the driver for wireless
[05:19] <amigamia> syrius i see i can enable root. since the server is not exposed directly to the internet and will actually be a standalone server internally i can actually enable root and not worry about it. my pw for root on other servers is 20 characters and trust me not easy to figure out :)
[05:19] <Anonehawk> There's nothing more I can see
[05:20] <Anonehawk> It shows this http://pastebin.com/RVmu4TiD
[05:20] <Anonehawk> There is no way to see anything else.
[05:20] <Anonehawk> I'm not a newb to this
[05:20] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[05:20] <pfifo> Anonehawk, when you go to reinstall, mount you drive and copy everything in /home somwhere safe.
[05:20] <syrius> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get check; sudo apt-get -y upgrade; sudo apt-get -y install somepackages will make the installation automatic after ran no y or no confirmations
[05:21] <Anonehawk> pfifo: Any good way to do that?
[05:21] <BigMoose> psycho_oreos: thanks for all your help, i'm going to look into this some more tomorrow.
[05:21] <syrius> why do you need to enable root? amigamia
[05:22] <syrius> sudo does all you would need with root
[05:22] <Neological3000> hello
[05:22] <pfifo> Anonehawk, click on places open your drive and copy it all to a cd/dvd. for future reference I ususally create 2 8GB partitions at the front of the disk and then use the remaining space as one huge partition that I mount on /home. I can reinstall but keep all my settings and work.
[05:23] <Anonehawk> Don't have any CD's or such lying around
[05:23] <Anonehawk> Just going to have to lose the data I suppose..
[05:23] <Anonehawk> .Any idea why it borked?
[05:23] <syrius> Anonehawk, or you can just backup your home and then move it over when installation is finished
[05:23] <pfifo> Anonehawk, you can even get creative and use the dd command to mirror partitions once your stuff is setup, but thats too advanced for you atm
[05:24] <Anonehawk> I installed an update, restarted and bam, Ubuntu killed
[05:24] <syrius> hmm
[05:24] <syrius> sometimes that can happen
[05:24] <Anonehawk> I'm not a noob, I'm telling you what happened to me.
[05:24] <pfifo> Anonehawk, you may have updated something that is used in the boot sequence.
[05:24] <Anonehawk> Possibly
[05:25] <scunizi> Anonehawk: have you tried running a full update from the terminal? (if you can get there.) .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:26] <pfifo> Anonehawk, back in 2003 I used to reinstall windows about every 3 weeks, I switched to redhat  and ran seamlessly for about 18 months, the picked up ubuntu and im back to reinstalling every 3 weeks
[05:26] <Anonehawk> I can get to nothing
[05:26] <scunizi> Anonehawk: ctrl+alt+F2?
[05:26] <Anonehawk> Uno momento
[05:26] <stevecam> pfifo, what are you doing to the system?
[05:27] <Anonehawk> And no
[05:27] <syrius> are you hispanic Anonehawk
[05:27] <scunizi> :(
[05:27] <Neological3000> Anonehawk: Have you tryed out one of the forums? To post your problem there could mean a big difference?
[05:27] <Anonehawk> syrius: No.
[05:27] <syrius> o
[05:27] <stevecam> i havnt reinstalled ubuntu for over a year and it works fine for me
[05:28] <Anonehawk> I don't have much of a choice at this time
[05:28] <pfifo> stevecam, I have the most awesome bada$$ cross compiler in thehistory of mankind!!!
[05:28] <Anonehawk> Nothing left to do but re-install it
[05:28] <amigamia> i was just noticing in iptraf that it has me listed as root@ eventhough i am not using the root account perse.
[05:28] <Anonehawk> pfifo: Let's see it bro
[05:28] <Neological3000> stevecam: Mione is beginning to work just the i want it to. There are som books on the hack and tweak subject. Are you interested?
[05:29] <pfifo> stevecam, SDL/GL + lua and libpng. Linux Mac Windows and PSP
[05:29] <rfa_> scunizi apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:29] <stevecam> Neological3000, what?
[05:29] <Anonehawk> Thanks for trying to help at least.
[05:30] <Neological3000> There are som books on the hack and tweak subject. Are you interested? You said that your system is working great now. Mine is to. finally i am enjoying the features of ubuntu.
[05:30] <critter_feed_352> slackware is better
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> !best
[05:30] <greezmunkey> ford, chevy blah blah blah
[05:30] <Neological3000> stevecam: Last post were for you.
[05:31] <stevecam> Neological3000, i dont plan on messing around with ubuntu too much
[05:31] <pfifo> Hi Dr_Willis, that grub2 stuff you refered me to is working out great, thanks again
[05:31] <Anonehawk> Ubuntu pulled an Xbox 360 on me
[05:31] <Pici> xmofpat asmith!~18ab93fc@gateway/web/freenode/x-oaxdgxdsarhiwqfr roamer!~c18cdd02@gateway/web/freenode/x-tqswkmerofxpitzf
[05:31] <Anonehawk> Crai crai
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  we aim to please.
[05:31] <mattgyver> does anyone know how to properly restore a drupal when drupal was installed from ubuntu's repos?
[05:31] <stevecam> Neological3000, i read LFS for that
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> LFS - the cut and paste and wait OS. :)
[05:32] <stevecam> ROFL
[05:32] <pfifo> Ive deviated from LFS...
[05:32] <Neological3000> stevecam: okay. Just af diferent way of exploring ubuntu. *s* what is LFS?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> I did learn a few things by reading through the LFS docs.. but i never did use it.
[05:32] <pfifo> it failed
[05:33] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, best thing I learned form LFS `sed`
[05:33] <stevecam> Neological3000, LFS is a book that explain to you how you would go about compiling your system from souce code
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  i have a book on SED and Awk  :)
[05:33] <stevecam> its easy to cut and paste, but its worth reading as well
[05:34] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, never got into Awk, but since I know perl sed is very handy
[05:34] <stevecam> pfifo, yes, ive deviated from the book too, i don't think the idea is to stick with the book the whole time
[05:34] <stevecam> just the first few times
[05:35] <Neological3000> Stevecam: that sounds awsom. If i wanted to know everything about Linux/ubuntu, what could you recomend?
[05:35] <theadmin> fsck gave a strange warning right now: "Volume was not correctly closed on Windows, fixing.", what the heck
[05:35] <theadmin> Neological3000: Everything? Doubt it's possible
[05:35] <pfifo> the knowledge you learn from a btb instal is worth going through the hassel, but day to day stuff ubuntu and XP are made for
[05:35] <stevecam> Neological3000, LFS would teach you a fair bit
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  awk sort of fills in the gap in 'power' between perl and sed. :)
[05:36] <pfifo> Neological3000, yes do LFS, but take your time and understand what every command you cut and paste dose, youll learn loads
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  if you hibernate/suspend windows.. or windows crashes. it dosent properly close the NTFS filesystems
[05:36] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Hm, weird, i did a clean shutdown
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> LFS in virtualbox.. is  a fun way to spend a day
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  ive had windows do weirder things.. :) perhaps it just lookjed clean.
[05:37] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Yeah, who knows
[05:37] <Neological3000> Stevecam: Linux from scratch. I just found on the net. i am going to read it. thanks dude.
[05:37] <stevecam> Neological3000, yw
[05:37] <pfifo> Neological3000, also, learning C programming is a huge supplement to using linux
[05:38] <therealgalen> i just installed windows 7 over window xp, and it set the boot flag back onto the windows partition (from the ubuntu partition), and now i cannot boot into ubuntu or get grub to come up - if i set the boot flag back onto the ubtuntu volume, it just hangs at startup "verifying DMI pool"... what should i do? i have verified (using the live disc) that the ubuntu volume is intact...
[05:38] <amigamia> i get this error why would that be? (gksudo:16341): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:38] <amigamia> i tried to run graphical sudo
[05:39] <Jordan_U> amigamia: Did you try to run it from the console or from gnome-terminal/xterm ?
[05:39] <theadmin> Why won't VLC work from a tty? :/
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> amigamia:  use gksudo  not sudo for gui apps.
[05:39] <stevecam> Neological3000, i wouldnt say that it teaches you everything though, its more like an in-depth tour on the linux operating system
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  from a console? or a xterm/gnome-terminal you mean?
[05:39] <amigamia> jordan_U i was running it via putty
[05:40] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: A regular tty, one you get when you hit Ctrl+Alt+F{1-6}
[05:40] <Anonehawk> Hate to interrupt but.
[05:40] <amigamia> gksudo firefox for example
[05:40] <Anonehawk> Would LFS be fine for an intermidiate Linux user?
[05:40] <Pici> Folks, I'm going to have to spam some modes.  Its going to be annoying, but it needs to be done since our floodbots have forgotten to remove some very stale entries.
[05:40] <Anonehawk> Or just for complete Linux newbs?
[05:40] <Jordan_U> amigamia: Were you expecting it to open a window on the local machine or the remote machine? You need to set the DISPLAY environment variable depending on what you are trying to do.
[05:41] <stevecam> yes
[05:41] <Anonehawk> Thanks
[05:41] <amigamia> on the remote
[05:41] <theadmin> Anonehawk: LFS is not a distro or something, it's a book
[05:41] <Anonehawk> I'll try that..
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  thats a console. and it knows nothing about the X session thats running. what are you trying to acomplish exactly?
[05:41] <Anonehawk> I know what it is
[05:41] <stevecam> not for newbies though
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> newbies can alwwyas just read the book. :) and perhaps learn some new terms.
[05:41] <amigamia> that server is i another room
[05:41] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: VLC has got a CLI, no? Try (in gnome-terminal or xterm): cvlc somefile.mp3
[05:41] <amigamia> CLI is an amiga thing yes?
[05:42] <therealgalen> anybody on how to fix the DMI problem at boot after upgrading to windows 7?
[05:42] <amigamia> amiga created CLI yes?
[05:42] <Anonehawk> Just wanted to find something to help learn what I don't already know
[05:42] <Anonehawk> I'll try LFS
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  never noticed..  Theres the framebuffer device that can let SOME players work thatway. or theres the ascii art/output option
[05:42] <Jordan_U> amigamia: ANd *never* run firefox as root.
[05:42] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to play an audio file, actually
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> therealgalen:  vlc can also work as a server to stream videos..
[05:42] <amigamia> LFS is  game isnt it?
[05:42] <therealgalen> Dr_Willis: i don'
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  try a audio specific player would be my advice. or check the docs for vlc a little more
[05:42] <therealgalen> Dr_Willis: i don't think you meant that for me
[05:43] <theadmin> amigamia: It's a book. Linux From Scratch
[05:43] <amigamia> jordan_u i was just testing out some commands i was reading about
[05:43] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: mplayer works, which is kinda weird
[05:43] <amigamia> ahh lfs = live for speed
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  mplayer has framebuffer support.
[05:43] <amigamia> as a game
[05:43] <Jordan_U> amigamia: Linux From Scratch
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  GeeXbox has used it for years for a framebuffer player.
[05:43] <zenker> ok so i tried the recovery mode and chmod -x /usr/bin/compiz.real thing and it seems 2 have made it worse, ill just reinstall , so what do i do to reinstall ubuntu and remove the old one?
[05:43] <amigamia> i tried gksudo xclock
[05:43] <amigamia> that doesnt work either
[05:44] <pfifo> Anonehawk, want to be a linux expert? Build LFS, memorize 'man gcc' and become a C and python programmer
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> I dont do C. :) i have read some python books.. :)  but then again.. most of what i do i can code in bash scripts.
[05:44] <amigamia> i am just experimenting asically
[05:44] <amigamia> basically
[05:44] <amigamia> i am using putty to gksudo xclock
[05:45] <Anonehawk> pfifo: Alright
[05:45] <amigamia> i tried gksudo firefox but it doesnt output
[05:45] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Same here.  Actually, gksudo has a graphical password prompt so i doubt you'd be able to SSH that
[05:46] <amigamia> ok
[05:47] <amigamia> ok let me go to that physical machine brb
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> amigamia:  if you ssh to a linux box and try to rin somthjing.. and expect it to appear on the window s machine. you MUST have some sort of 'X server' (such as xming) setup on the windows box.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> amigamia:  or just use vnc to get your Linux desktop in a 'window'
[05:47] <amigamia> i see dr_willis
[05:47] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: ...X server... Windows... my brain crashed there for a second
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  xming works very well.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  the 'anlinux' disrto is a neat trick also. it runs ubuntu inside a virtual machine on widnows. and uses xming so the apps appear on the windows desktop
[05:48] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: o_O
[05:48] <sambagirl> gksudo firefox worked locally
[05:48] <zenker> whats the best way to return ubuntu to its orig install state? do i need to uninstall it then reinstall, or is there a way to just reinstall it over the existing one?
[05:48] <sambagirl> i wont try it again. i see it could be a problem.
[05:48] <ardchoille> sambagirl: you should never run firefox as root
[05:49] <mr_e_panda> hello y'all. i was just wondering how i can format a drive using ubuntu
[05:49] <sambagirl> i was just experimenting with the command
[05:49] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: I could achieve that by installing ubuntu with guest addons on VirtualBox and turning on the seamless mode
[05:49] <ardchoille> sambagirl: sudo/gksudo is not a good thing to "experiment" with
[05:49] <mr_e_panda> damn sorry i have to go
[05:49] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: If I remember correctly it's not really a virtual machine but a highly modified linux kernel that runs as a process in windows.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  i find seamless mode works less then one would hope.
[05:49] <Pici> All done.  Sorry again.
[05:49] <pfifo> zenker, the install process allows you to format.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  that may be the case.. it suprised me how well it worked.
[05:50] <zenker> pfifo it does, however it appears that it will install a new partition for the new install?
[05:50] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Can you link me to anlinux thing? Would be pretty cool to test. Googling it gave too much confusing pages
[05:50] <Jordan_U> theadmin: It was a typo, it's "andlinux"
[05:51] <theadmin> Jordan_U: ty
[05:51] <Jordan_U> theadmin: You're welcome.
[05:51] <pfifo> zenker, Sorry Ive never used the automatic method of disk partitioning, but if you do it mannually, you can format before you install
[05:51] <amigamia> i did a w to see who was online and i see a after sshd [priv]  what is the priv for?
[05:51] <zenker> can you help me through this process?
[05:52] <theadmin> ...their site shows screens with KDE apps, kde apps run natively under windows too :/
[05:52] <pfifo> zenker, maybey, are you able to IRC and install at once?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  i just saw it on DisrtoWatch one day. let me find it.
[05:52] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Found already
[05:52] <zenker> i have a nother lappie, ill get it out now :)
[05:52] <riz0n> Hi, I have an Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS system running, but when it boots it starts fsck and gets about 30% through and then dies with "exit status 4".. Tells me enter the root password for maintenance, but for some reason my root password is not working. Is there a way to boot this machine and skip fsck??
[05:52] <Jordan_U> zenker: Do you want to keep all your data?
[05:52] <itheos> my sirius usb2.0 webcam is detected by an application known as "camera monitor" in ubuntu. but i cant view the cam in any application. it indicates that the cam is on. what should be the solution?
[05:52] <pfifo> zenker, im sure there are atleast 3 others here that can help you through a manual partition, you shoud be fine then
[05:53] <zenker> nope, didnt get a chance to put any on it yet
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  it might be 'anDlinux'
[05:53] <Jordan_U> riz0n: You probably don't want to skip fsck. Run fsck from a liveCD instead
[05:53] <zenker> so no saving necessary :)
[05:53] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Yeah, it is
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  http://www.andlinux.org/
[05:53] <greezmunkey> pfifo: Imagemagick, definately! Thank man :)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  they could use a better name, :)
[05:53] <meatbun> if i install xp on partition 1 and win7 on partition 2, and then instale ubuntu back on partition 1, can i still boot win7?
[05:53] <pfifo> greezmunkey, We aim to please
[05:53] <kedy07> what's a good todo list app? like one that will always be on my desktop
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  one big issue.. its for 32 bit windows Only. :(
[05:54] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: XFCE, XFCE... Thunar is so much of a bleh.   I perfer 'rox filer' as an alternative file manager.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  you can install any ubuntu apps you want into andlinux. it just comes with a few kde apps by default
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  i also saw some KDE ported to windows stuff the other day :)
[05:55] <kedy07> Thundarr: i need it for homework, so i will know what homework i have. i do my homework on my comp
[05:55] <zenker> ok i am now beetlejuice :)
[05:55] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: I see... And i use MC as filemanager. Wish SOOO much it'd be ported to windows, now's a chance!
[05:55] <therealgalen> i need to reinstall grub under ubuntu
[05:55] <therealgalen> how can i do this most efficiently?
[05:55] <theadmin> therealgalen: Do you have a live CD?
[05:56] <therealgalen> theadmin: booted into it now
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  i think i have seen MC ported to windows/dos.. or was that in  cygwin...
[05:56] <BeetleJuice> so where do i start?
[05:56] <Freak007> Hi I am having trouble running ubuntu 9.10 on one of my computers. It's kind of old, it will run, but the windows are kind of weird, I can't connect to the internet and I can't use the terminal
[05:56] <intok> How can I get ubuntu to realize that this volume isn't already mounted? Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/75F6A74274E61336
[05:56] <therealgalen> theadmin: was trying this but no luck http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[05:56] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Cygwin, definetly. By the way, Cygwin is able to run gnome which is a wow
[05:56] <theadmin> therealgalen: Try "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" (or whatever drive you want it on)
[05:57] <greezmunkey> kedy07, try "sticky notes" pretty handy little proggie.
[05:57] <yannick> hello :-) how can i upload a file from my pc to my server?
[05:57] <BeetleJuice> pfifo are you still there?
[05:58] <theadmin> yannick: Do you have FTP access?
[05:58] <itheos> any help folks?
[05:58] <syddraf> kedy07, if you use firefox there's a web-based extension called ToDoist that is pretty easy to use. its not integrated with the OS though
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  yep. Not tried it in ages. It getting weird how much linux is creeping into the windows world. :)
[05:58] <yannick> theadmin: yes but i'm connected via ssh
[05:58] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Windows 7 looks a lot like KDE too
[05:58] <kedy07> greezmunkey: yes i have tried that but for example when you click on the desktop it will go away. i need one that will stay on the desktop to constantly remind me
[05:58] <therealgalen> theadmin: cannot find a device for /boot/grub
[05:58] <therealgalen> theadmin: i am rebooting, it's possible my prior mounting stuff screwed it up
[05:59] <greezmunkey> lo
[05:59] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, yes?
[05:59] <BeetleJuice> ok, so what do i need 2 do first?
[05:59] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, are you Anon?
[05:59] <BeetleJuice> no im zenker rofl
[05:59] <theadmin> yannick: see: "man ftp"
[05:59] <itheos> ??
[05:59] <BeetleJuice> sorry i should have just put zenker in
[05:59] <yannick> theadmin: and whats with ssh?
[06:00] <itheos> dont anger lorez?
[06:00] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, ok what live CD are you running?
[06:00] <theadmin> yannick: ftp is console-based so i think you should be able to use it even with no X
[06:00] <ardchoille> itheos: ignore it
[06:00] <theadmin> itheos: It's a spammer
[06:00] <pfifo> itheos, he likes nectar and ambrosia
[06:00] <itheos> :D ok
[06:00] <BeetleJuice> ubuntu install 9.10 64bit
[06:00] <pfifo> itheos, and virgins
[06:00] <itheos> :O
[06:01] <itheos> pls help me guys
[06:01] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, are you on the partition part of it?
[06:01] <theadmin> itheos: yes?
[06:01] <itheos> my sirius usb2.0 webcam is detected by an application known as "camera monitor" in ubuntu. but i cant view the cam in any application. it indicates that the cam is on. what should be the solution?
[06:01] <erorrs> i have ubuntu 9.10 installed,i am installing kde-desktop from command line will i get only kde after installation
[06:01] <BeetleJuice> its still running off the cd
[06:01] <theadmin> erorrs: No, GNOME will be still there, you can remove it though
[06:01] <sabat> I am using Clear for my ISP, with a Motorola WiMAX usb adapter, model 25100, anyone know if this works on linux?
[06:01] <Fandekasp_> hi
[06:02] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, do the install process put when it comes to the partitioning part check back in
[06:02] <pfifo> but*
[06:02] <greezmunkey> itheos, google "Ubuntu cheese" it was a suggestion I got here!
[06:02] <Freak007> I am having trouble running ubuntu 9.10 on one of my computers. It's kind of old, it will run, but the windows are kind of weird, I can't connect to the internet and I can't use the terminal
[06:02] <itheos> greezmunkey, cheese shows a black screen :D
[06:02] <erorrs> theadmin:is there any ways by which i can get driver for hp quicklauch in ubuntu 9.10?
[06:02] <theadmin> Freak007: "weird"? And you can't use the terminal?!
[06:02] <Fandekasp_> I'd like to change permissions to a user ... how can I do this ? (I'd create a svn user, and he's unable to create a new file for example)
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> I like cheese. :)
[06:03] <theadmin> erorrs: Dunno
[06:03] <theadmin> Fandekasp_: See: man chmod
[06:03] <vishal> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16 dev sda1 clean,,,, anybody can help me out about this
[06:03] <Freak007> no I get this white blank space like it wants to open but it doen't
[06:03] <theadmin> vishal: This looks normal
[06:03] <sabat> I am using Clear for my ISP, with a Motorola WiMAX usb adapter, model 25100, anyone know if this works on linux?
[06:03] <itheos> i have installed 10 webcam apps but no one works for my cam. or my cam doesnt work for any :(
[06:04] <Anonehawk> sabat: Why not try it and find out?
[06:04] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : chmod modify file permissions, but I don't know how to change user permissions with it. Or I missed something
[06:04] <Anonehawk> You have nothing to lose really.
[06:04] <erorrs> is there any ways by which i can get driver for hp quicklauch in ubuntu 9.10?
[06:04] <theadmin> Fandekasp_: "user permissions" being?
[06:04] <sabat> When I plug it in, nothing happens
[06:04] <theadmin> Fandekasp_: What exactly do you want?
[06:04] <vishal> theadmin : it is not booting actually,, so can u help me
[06:04] <sabat> I'm guessing I don't just install the windows cd and run setup...
[06:04] <BeetleJuice> itheos ok im ready
[06:04] <theadmin> vishal: Do you get something like "root@ubuntu:~" at the end?
[06:04] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : I'd like my user "svn" to be able to create a new file .svn/lock
[06:05] <theadmin> Fandekasp_: He must have rw access to .svn folder
[06:05] <greezmunkey> itheos: Start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[06:05] <itheos> BeetleJuice, ahem?
[06:05] <BeetleJuice> sorry pfifo im ready
[06:05] <itheos> lol
[06:05] <vishal> theadmin: no ,,it is showing modem loaded nokia and so on
[06:06] <theadmin> vishal: Uh, WHAT do you get at the end
[06:06] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : hum all the directories have the permissions www-data:www-data ... how can I authorize svn AND www-data to access these files ?
[06:06] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, select the manual option
[06:06] <itheos> greezmunkey, thanks but its already detected
[06:06] <BeetleJuice> pfifo ok selected
[06:06] <vishal> theadmin: modem-manager : loaded plugin motoc
[06:07] <erorrs> is there any ways by which i can get driver for hp quicklauch in ubuntu 9.10?
[06:07] <vishal> theadmin: how can i start it
[06:07] <BeetleJuice> pfifo should i click forward?
[06:07] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, I cant give you the exact drive to choose, do you know which partition your ubuntu is installed on?
[06:07] <BeetleJuice> yes
[06:07] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, yeah, go forward into the partition manager
[06:08] <BeetleJuice> ok scanning disks....and now i can see all the dev selections
[06:08] <Freak007> theadmin: terminal won't run I get a white blank space like it wants to open but doesn't, I can't type anything.
[06:08] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, select that partition and then click edit, use as ext2 or what ever filesystem you want, put a check in the format box and then set the mountpoint as /
[06:09] <vishal> theadmin:fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
[06:09] <vishal> dev/sdb1 : clean xx/xx files xx/xx blocks
[06:09] <vishal> dev/sdb5 : clean xx/xx files xx/xx blocks (check in 4 mounts)
[06:09] <vishal> modem-manager: Loaded Plugin: Huawei
[06:09] <vishal> modem-manager: Loaden Plugin: Option High-Speed
[06:09] <FloodBot3> vishal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:09] <erorrs> s there any ways by which i can get driver for hp quicklauch in ubuntu 9.10?
[06:09] <hayden> i am trying to install ubuntu 9.10 on an old computer with a AMD Opteron 224 processor and nvidia 6200 graphics card. The live cd feature works (i am using it right now), but when i installed it and rebooted, after the glowing ubuntu circle in the center of the screen, i just saw flashing text saying enter user name. what can be wrong? i have dual boot with win xp if that matters.
[06:09] <theadmin> Fandekasp_: Hm... sudo addgroup somegroup && sudo usermod www-data -G -a somegroup && sudo usermod svn -G -a somegroup && sudo chown nobody:somegroup svn
[06:09] <erorrs> hayden:try alt-F7
[06:09] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, if you have swap select that partition and hit edit and use it as swap space
[06:10] <hayden> when, on that screen? what does it do?
[06:10] <erorrs> hayden:ctrl-alt-F7 it is gui
[06:10] <BeetleJuice> pfifo swap area?
[06:11] <hayden> oh, ok. i don't understand why it would be flashing though.
[06:11] <vishal> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
[06:11] <vishal> dev/sdb1 : clean xx/xx files xx/xx blocks
[06:11] <vishal> dev/sdb5 : clean xx/xx files xx/xx blocks (check in 4 mounts)
[06:11] <vishal> modem-manager: Loaded Plugin: Huawei
[06:11] <vishal> modem-manager: Loaden Plugin: Option High-Speed
[06:11] <vishal> this is the error m  getting ...any body can help me ...my ubuntu is not booting up
[06:11] <FloodBot3> vishal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <vishal> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
[06:11] <vishal> dev/sdb1 : clean xx/xx files xx/xx blocks
[06:11] <vishal> dev/sdb5 : clean xx/xx files xx/xx blocks (check in 4 mounts)
[06:11] <vishal> modem-manager: Loaded Plugin: Huawei
[06:11] <vishal> modem-manager: Loaden Plugin: Option High-Speed
[06:11] <FloodBot3> vishal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <vishal> this is the error m  getting ...any body can help me ...my ubuntu is not booting up
[06:11] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, if a partition on your drive is set to swap space it usually is autodetected and used, if you dont have a swap "partition" then you may have a "swap file" or no swap at all, which is ok too. all you need it "/"
[06:12] <erorrs> hayde:it may b kernel bug it is forcing u use command line try this it may solve it
[06:12] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : needed some time to understand ^^ should work, I try :)
[06:12] <hayden> ok, i will try it and see how it works :) thanks!
[06:13] <Freak007> theadmin: I think I may have figured out how to fix the problem with the windows, I think it is the very last problem talked about in the relaese notes but I can't get terminal to run so I can fix it
[06:13] <erorrs> hayden:if not then log in using username and password then type (sudo apt-get update kernel)
[06:13] <BeetleJuice> ok so i choose ext4 journaling file system for the ubunut partition, and on the dev that had swap in the type i selected swap area. is this correct?
[06:13] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, once you have a partition marked to be used as "/" you can click forward, if you have no swap it is safe to ignore the warnning about swap space that will come up, afterwards youll contiunue your normal install routine. from now on use manual partitioning as it really isnt difficult
[06:14] <BeetleJuice> oh and i put the / in the ubuntu dev
[06:14] <c_nick> when i click on MyComputer , Place->Network I get a message Nautilus cannot handle 'network' locations
[06:14] <amigamia> there is something i just cant understand. why is it that htop shows me 330 total stasks but 1 running when i know there must be many more running because the cpus all 4 show really high pecentage of use?  secondly iptraf shows the downloading of python dependencies for this software installation from hp? well now it shows 6 but it ususally only shows 1 mostly.
[06:14] <vishal> my ubuntu is not booting anybody can help me
[06:14] <amigamia> is that normal?
[06:14] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, sounds like your good to go, when you click next it will say if theres a problem
[06:14] <BeetleJuice> woo hoooooo no error, its waitint for my name
[06:14] <vishal> it is showing fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16 dev/sdb1 : clean xx/xx files xx/xx blocks
[06:14] <vishal> dev/sdb5 : clean xx/xx files xx/xx blocks (check in 4 mounts)
[06:14] <vishal> modem-manager: Loaded Plugin: Huawei
[06:14] <vishal> modem-manager: Loaden Plugin: Option High-Speed
[06:15] <FloodBot3> vishal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:15] <theadmin> Freak007: Hm, is a window manager running?
[06:15] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, congrats, you now pwn your harddrive
[06:15] <Freak007> theadmin: I'm not sure what you mean
[06:16] <BeetleJuice> than you so much pfifo, seriously i could'nt have done it wo your help
[06:16] <theadmin> Freak007: Are there borders on windows with buttons like close, minimize, maximize?
[06:16] <Edwardo> Hello. When I was booting from the LiveCD, the ubuntu hardware drivers thing recognized my Broadcom wireless adapter and allowed me to install it
[06:16] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, sure you could have but you might have erased XP ;)
[06:16] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : there is a problem : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/189062/  He want a user and I only created a groupe
[06:16] <Freak007> yes
[06:16] <vishal> anybody can help me
[06:16] <Edwardo> But now that I've installed Ubuntu, hardware drivers doesn't recognize my broadcom anymore
[06:16] <vishal> regarding ubuntu
[06:16] <Edwardo> Hello. When I was booting from the LiveCD, the ubuntu hardware drivers thing recognized my Broadcom wireless adapter and allowed me to install it
[06:16] <Edwardo> But now that I've installed Ubuntu, hardware drivers doesn't recognize my broadcom anymore
[06:16] <vishal> it is not booting
[06:16] <vishal> showing some error
[06:17] <erorrs> edwardo:same for me too
[06:17] <Edwardo> Seriously?
[06:17] <BeetleJuice> that's what i was worried about, if i erased vista i would have lost some stuff cus i havent done my weekly backup yet and i just spent 10 hours on a project
[06:17] <erorrs> edwardo:cant get wireless workig
[06:17] <theadmin> Fandekasp_: Damn, i forgot the "usermod" synopsis
[06:17] <Freak007> theadmin: yes
[06:18] <dan_> is there a limewire for ubuntu?
[06:18] <erorrs> dan:nevr heard of
[06:18] <BeetleJuice> ntm the extra time reformatting, installing vista, then installng all the vista cracks cuz they dont backup, then ubuntu
[06:18] <theadmin> sudo usermod -G -a svn-data svn, try this one
[06:18] <vishal> help me
[06:18] <theadmin> Fandekasp_: ^
[06:18] <BeetleJuice> you are a life saver and maybe someday ill get the chance to show someone else this :)))
[06:18] <erorrs> vishal:what is ur problem?
[06:19] <theadmin> dan_: There is FrostWire, which is a clone of Limewire which runs on Ubuntu
[06:19] <c_nick> can someone help me
[06:19] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, protip: I use a second partition mounted on /home i have carried my data and setting from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10 firefox, sources. everything and I also have that partition mounted in 'My Documents' in XP
[06:19] <BaseBallBoy> How do I run an Apache2 server as a daemon?
[06:19] <intok> How can I get ubuntu to realize that this volume isn't already mounted? Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/75F6A74274E61336
[06:19] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/189066/   I don't understand lol
[06:20] <theadmin> BaseBallBoy: Huh? "sudo apacheprefix/bin/apachectl start", no?
[06:20] <Neological3000> c_nick: maybe. what do you need?
[06:20] <c_nick> when i click on MyComputer , Place->Network I get a message Nautilus cannot handle 'network' locations
[06:20] <BeetleJuice> i just use an external hd and drag and drop anything i cannot backup
[06:20] <itheos> dan_, yes there is limewire for ubuntu
[06:20] <vishal> erorrs: my system is not booting
[06:21] <package> c_nick, go to File --> Connect To Server --> do it that way
[06:21] <erorrs> vishal:what it is saying?
[06:21] <vishal> errors: it is showing fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
[06:21] <meatbun> how much 9.10 clean install take? i am on a limited space/budget
[06:21] <vishal> erorrs: dev/sdb1 : clean xx/xx files xx/xx blocks
[06:21] <Neological3000> c_nick: Well i dont now about that, have you tryed running nautilus from command line?
[06:21] <vishal> erorrs: modem-manager: Loaded Plugin: Huawei
[06:21] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, actually funny you should say that cause my /home is my external HD
[06:21] <c_nick> but package what about trash
[06:21] <meatbun> 20gb enough to install some 3rd party apps?
[06:21] <theadmin> Fandekasp_: Hm. guess i messed up again... "sudo usermod -aG svn-data svn", there!
[06:21] <vishal> erorrs: then got stuck
[06:21] <c_nick> everything starting from /// does not work
[06:22] <Flannel> theadmin: easier to just use "adduser"
[06:22] <theadmin> Flannel: That creates a new user, right?
[06:22] <erorrs> vishal:try going in recovery-mode and in command line type fschk
[06:22] <Neological3000> c_nick: are you root user?
[06:22] <Flannel> theadmin: adduser username group will add username to group
[06:22] <Edwardo> Can I please have help?
[06:22] <vishal> erorrs: tell me how can i try this
[06:22] <c_nick> yes
[06:22] <vishal> erorrs :processor
[06:23] <theadmin> Flannel: I'm still a newb, i guess
[06:23] <BeetleJuice> i wish the external hd i had wasnt so slow, its using a usb1 case and a olllld hd from a pent II its 5gb but i expect to get a tb external soon
[06:23] <Flannel> theadmin: Its far too easy to screw up your groups with usermod -G, adduser is so much simpler anyway
[06:23] <erorrs> vishal:while booting starts press any key it will open grub-menu from there go recovery mode
[06:24] <theadmin> Fandekasp_: Let's listen to flannel. "sudo adduser svn svn-data && sudo adduser www-data svn-data"
[06:24] <vishal> erorrs: after going into recovery mode
[06:25] <vishal> erorrs: wat i do
[06:25] <Neological3000> c_nick: i dont no then. Try google linux forums ubuntu. look for the penguin.
[06:25] <hayden> well alt f7 only made the disappear, leaving only a flashing underscore
[06:25] <erorrs> vishal:it will tell u what to do...
[06:25] <hayden> :-/
[06:25] <BeetleJuice> on ubuntu 10 are they gonna add a transparency slider to the background pics so u can use compiz 2 have multiple bkgrnds and still have icons? or some other fix?
[06:26] <christag> oh hey everyone. does anyone have any experience with setting up lucid on a macbook pro?  v5,1 preferred
[06:26] <vishal> erorrs: again it is showing same erorrs
[06:26] <vishal> erorrs: tell me what to do now
[06:26] <erorrs> try typin fschk
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !lucid
[06:26] <christag> ah hah
[06:27] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : don't change anything :(
[06:28] <Freak007> theadmin: I don't know what the problem is, I used xubuntu and a different distro that used gnome and I didn't have any problems except that I still can't connect to the internet
[06:28] <vikram> how to change buffers in emacs using keyboard?
[06:29] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : look this : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/189068/
[06:29] <erorrs> Freak007:try reconfiguring ur connection setings
[06:29] <Semitones> Edwardo, ask your question here please
[06:30] <vikram> how to change buffers in emacs using keyboard?
[06:30] <Freak007> ok but what about not being able to use the terminal
[06:30] <erorrs> Freak007:try going to grub-menu run recovery mode
[06:30] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : how can I check if my svn user is really part of the group svn-data, and "should" have permission to create file in the directory ?
[06:31] <Edwardo> When I booted from the Ubuntu LiveCD, hardware drivers found my broadcom wireless adapter and asked me if i wanted to download the drivers.
[06:31] <Fandekasp_> theadmin : anyway, thank you for your help :)
[06:31] <Edwardo> Once I installed Ubuntu, however, i didn't get this, and now hardwarve drivers isn't recognizing anythign
[06:31] <Flannel> Fandekasp_: `groups username` will list the groups a user is in
[06:31] <BeetleJuice> oh pfifo, is there a post about what u show'd me how to do, i did search but the stuff i found was way more technical?
[06:32] <hayden> oh look, im not alone
[06:32] <hayden> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305459&highlight=flashing+text+login
[06:32] <Neological3000> Edwardo: can you get online?
[06:33] <Semitones> Edwardo, the best thing to do I think would be to connect your pc to the internet with a wired connection temporarily, and download the drivers that way
[06:33] <Fandekasp_> Flannel : it show me svn : svn svn-data ... so it should work :/ Did you read my problem ? I have svn in the groupe svn-data, and there : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/189068/ you can see that svn has permission denied
[06:33] <Freak007> what should I do after I start recovery mode
[06:34] <Neological3000> Edwardo: I agree with Semitones
[06:34] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, Yes partitioning is very flexible, from simple one partition per disk to raid 10 arras consisting of thousands of drives.
[06:34] <Edwardo> I'm doing that right now..
[06:34] <Edwardo> I'm connected wired to my router
[06:34] <BeetleJuice> hayden thats funny thats where i got the idea to just reinstall i had the same issue when i tried to fix something with ccsm i messed up earlier
[06:34] <Edwardo> So Semitones, what do I do?
[06:34] <allu2> Hello, how i could get acx111 drivers work on 9.10?
[06:34] <erorrs> Hayden:i have the same kernel it is working good for me and i hav ati card
[06:34] <Flannel> Fandekasp_: From the look of it, *nobody* has write permissions, not even the svn-data group
[06:35] <Semitones> Edwardo, the first thing you should do is get the latest updates, using update manager
[06:35] <BeetleJuice> i think ill make the wiki page for the process you showed me pifio, if i can anyhow rofl
[06:35] <hayden> beetlejuice i am going to try and follow the suggestions, see if i get anywhere.
[06:35] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, for advanced topics refer to wikipedia and A+ manuals
[06:35] <Freak007> I am at the recovery menu, but what should I do?
[06:35] <Fandekasp_> Flannel : oh yes you're right
[06:35] <Semitones> Edwardo, that often solves many problems after installing from a live cd
[06:35] <hayden> erorrs this computer is using a nvidia 6200
[06:36] <allu2> Semitones: it would get acx drivers work if i nstall and i don't run from live cd?
[06:36] <allu2> *install
[06:36] <Edwardo> Semitones, i pray to god your right..
[06:36] <BeetleJuice> pfifo i tried those as well, but im such a noob only 2.5 weeks into ubuntu/linux, they just confused the crap outta me
[06:36] <hayden> it seems nvidia gets all the problems
[06:36] <Semitones> Edwardo, if that doesn't work, there are other things we can do, don't worry
[06:36] <Semitones> allu2, sorry? what is acx?
[06:36] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, careful, partitioning can destroy all your data, if you write a wiki ensure you give users the knowledge about how partitions work before telling them to format
[06:37] <erorrs> Hayden:login in command line try typing(sudo apt-get update xorg-server-core)
[06:37] <allu2> Semitones: acx111 drivers for my wlan card
[06:37] <BeetleJuice> pfifo very true, i will deff inc a bunch of links and some general information
[06:37] <allu2> Semitones: they don't work on live cd
[06:37] <BeetleJuice> and a very strong warning
[06:37] <BeetleJuice> oh, and a disclaimer rofl
[06:37] <Edwardo> Semitones, while the updates are installing.. I'm sorry for flipping out
[06:38] <hayden> erorrs: i will have to write that down, unfortunatley i dont have a second computer with me at the moment
[06:38] <Edwardo> but, i just removed my epic copy HP modded version of Windows 7.. for Ubuntu
[06:38] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, you knew which partition you had ubuntu on, but if you didnt, I would have walked you through a process to find out
[06:38] <Edwardo> and now Ubuntu won't network like i thought it would.. i think you can imagine my peril..
[06:38] <Semitones> allu2, Edwardo, you should also check the community documentation to see if your wireless devices are supported
[06:38] <erorrs> Hyden:update the kernel also
[06:38] <Semitones> !wifi
[06:39] <Semitones> Edwardo, that does seem like a tough spot!
[06:39] <BeetleJuice> pfifo i easily recignised it because i only had windows and ubuntu on this sys, it could have been a lot harder for sure :)
[06:39] <Edwardo> what i don't understand thought.. is why
[06:39] <Semitones> Edwardo, when I first installed ubuntu, my screen wasn't detected at all -- you can imagine how upset I was then :P
[06:39] <Edwardo> why would the LiveCD do it but not installed Ubuntu
[06:40] <bullgard> iotop outputs "be/4" and "be/3". What does that mean?
[06:40] <skrite> hey all, what packages to i get rid of or disable to stop the auto login ( was gdm ) ?  i want to boot into a console and startx if / when i wish
[06:40] <ae86-drifter> is there a way to automatically assign two different mount points with different permissions when i connect my external hard disk?
[06:40] <hayden> its been so long, i forgot how to install run files.
[06:40] <Semitones> Edwardo, I've heard other people mention something similar, so if you find out why that happens, I'd like to know too
[06:40] <BeetleJuice> pfifo but basically i knew it would be the only ext4 on there, the rest was fat, ntfs, and swap
[06:40] <bullgard> ae86-drifter: Yes.
[06:40] <allu2> Semitones: there is how to get them work with drapper drake and edgy....
[06:41] <ae86-drifter> bullgard, could you please explain to me how to do it?
[06:41] <BeetleJuice> woo hoo 70%
[06:41] <BeetleJuice> i need to get some flash drives
[06:42] <bullgard> ae86-drifter: You partition it in at least two partitions. Then assign different mount points and permissions to them.
[06:42] <BeetleJuice> looks like partitioning is on everybody's mind rofl
[06:43] <Semitones> allu2, ugh, old documentation?
[06:43] <Semitones> hmm
[06:43] <Fandekasp_> Flannel, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/189071/  ... I still don't have permission for svn, even if he should be able to write now
[06:43] <hayden> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo sh \home\ubuntu\Desktop\nvidia.run
[06:43] <hayden> sh: Can't open homeubuntuDesktopnvidia.run
[06:43] <oak> Sometimes my mouse moves uncontrolably might do a series of mouuse clicks. Does anyone know why this is happening?
[06:43] <hayden> what am i doing wrong?
[06:43] <allu2> Semitones: seems so
[06:44] <pfifo> BeetleJuice, all im saying is, if your seriously going to write a wiki, you should do some more research. The process we did is pretty basic, but there are times when what we did could create problems up to and including loss off data
[06:44] <Jordan_U> hayden: Foreward slash "/", not backslash "\"
[06:44] <hayden> oops
[06:44] <Jordan_U> hayden: Actually wait
[06:44] <ae86-drifter> bullgard, i want it to share the same partition, same folder, just with different partitions, different mount points on the PC
[06:44] <bullgard> Semitones: When laughing that much mind that your health will not be endangered.
[06:44] <Jordan_U> hayden: Why aren't you installing via System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[06:44] <Semitones> allu2, they really need to update it, but in general hardware detection has improved
[06:44] <ae86-drifter> bullgard, i want it to share the same partition, same folder, just with different PERMISSIONS different mount points on the PC (sorry .. typo)
[06:44] <hayden> should i be
[06:44] <sqwertle> hiya everyone :)
[06:44] <Prestidigitonium> im having trouble installing grub to my micro sd card. i cant seem to find the name of the node
[06:44] <hayden> that worked by the way
[06:44] <Jordan_U> hayden: Yes
[06:45] <allu2> Semitones: i find something about acx in /lib/firmware/acx
[06:45] <Semitones> bullgard, laughing?
[06:45] <BeetleJuice> pfifo i totally understand, i wouldnt do a half-butt job itll give me a topic to begin 2 become mroe advancd at :)
[06:45] <hayden> oh, i got an error
[06:45] <Prestidigitonium> grub gives me fatal error, exit code 1
[06:45] <Jordan_U> hayden: Do not install via that script .
[06:45] <bullgard> ae86-drifter: I believe that this is not possible.
[06:45] <hayden> ok
[06:45] <sqwertle> !lucid
[06:46] <Semitones> allu2, one thing you can do is download the livecd and test your hardware before you install. that usually works (although in edwardo's case it seems to have not worked for some reason)
[06:46] <BeetleJuice> now that ive gotten 2 play w it a lil, ill proll end up doing some real damag, but this time on my own terms, aka after a backup
[06:46] <allu2> Semitones: i am on live cd
[06:46] <bullgard> Semitones: Using the expression rofl is simply stupid.
[06:46] <hayden> let me see if i can boot up another computer
[06:46] <allu2> Semitones: i got my debian so broken i think i nstall ubuntu as i got bored of too old packages, but i need the acx to work :S
[06:46] <JimmyNeutron> lucid
[06:47] <allu2> *install
[06:47] <ae86-drifter> okay there has to be a way to automatically assign two different mount points with different permissions to a folder on my external hard disk, it pretty much stays connected to this pc 90% of the time. or... is there a way to sort of create a "virtual" mount point which just directs to another folder on your pc but with READ ONLY permissions?
[06:47] <BeetleJuice> i like 2 just jump into the deep end, but after i have checked the water temp rofl
[06:47] <allu2> Semitones: it seems to have firmwares for it :S
[06:47] <allu2> i wonder why it doesn't work..
[06:48] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, two mount points to the same folder ?
[06:48] <Semitones> bullgard, don't take it literally :P
[06:48] <Prestidigitonium> can anyone help?
[06:48] <airtonix> !help | Prestidigitonium
[06:48] <Semitones> allu2, I don't know -- if you can't get it working you could try filing a bug report
[06:48] <AndyS2> ae86-drifter: use a different user for read access?
[06:49] <Semitones> if it really seems to be broken
[06:49] <Prestidigitonium> huh
[06:49] <allu2> huoh and i would need working enviroment today..
[06:49] <airtonix> Prestidigitonium, just ask your question.
[06:49] <p1gmale0n> hi all
[06:49] <skrite> howdy
[06:49] <BeetleJuice> sup plgmale0n
[06:50] <skrite> how do i kill the auto login and just boot to a console?
[06:50] <ae86-drifter> AndyS2, i need it to be mounted a second time in my filesystem, then i could easily apply different user or permission etc..
[06:50] <p1gmale0n> i need run simple java app on deamon mode.. how i can do it??
[06:50] <pshr_> !nvidia
[06:50] <pshr_> hello, I get an error saying unable to load module nvidia,
[06:50] <Neological3000> !ubuntu
[06:50] <pshr_> and when i do sudo modprobe nvidia
[06:50] <Jordan_U> !boot | skrite
[06:50] <pshr_> no device found
[06:51] <AndyS2> ae86-drifter: I think its possible to have two mountpoints, its done for chroot
[06:51] <pshr_> hello, I get an error saying unable to load module nvidia, and when i do sudo modprobe nvidia i get no device found error can any one help me out I have nvidia 7400 card
[06:51] <ae86-drifter> AndyS2, the reason why, is because i want to have it mounted in a folder inside /var/www/foobar/etc/etc READ ONLY, but the standard mountpoint is shared on my LAN which i want write access for.
[06:51] <hayden> ok, im going to get another computer running. that should help
[06:51] <pshr_> and one mor thing I am running LUCID
[06:51] <ae86-drifter> so i want SAMBA to be RW and APACHE to be Read only
[06:52] <sqwertle> !lucid
[06:52] <Guest61852> i want to deploy my Ruby on Rails site on apache server
[06:52] <sun> hi
[06:52] <Guest61852> how it is possible ?
[06:52] <sun> who knows about gtk programming in ubuntu?
[06:53] <AndyS2> ae86-drifter: hmm, interesting and probably common problem. dunno if different permission could be used with what I said, sorry
[06:53] <Semitones> Edwardo, still updating?
[06:53] <BeetleJuice> yeay, ubuntu is now running on lappie again :)
[06:53] <Chill6> sun: whats your question
[06:54] <sun> Chill6,
[06:54] <Preposteruss> i have a 2wire pcmcia card that used to work out of the box on ubuntu 6.xx, now it's showing in lspci, ifconfig, and iwconfig but not in the network manager and i have tried to bring the card up by command line and it isn't working
[06:54] <chalcedny> my husband's computer - kubuntu 9.10 won't let him type more than 2 letters, even to login. what to do?
[06:54] <ae86-drifter> AndyS2, can i configure apache2 to give read access only to for eg. /media/EXTHDD/ whilst keeping R/W access with SAMBA?
[06:54] <Freak007> ok I think I have a solution to my problem but I'm having trouble carrying it out
[06:54] <sun> Chill6, I build a helloworld program of GTK, but is says can't find the <Gtk.h> file.
[06:54] <Flannel> Fandekasp_: Please pastebin the output of ls -al /home/Data/timetableasy/.svn/
[06:54] <BeetleJuice> holy cow 244 updates rofl
[06:55] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, have you looked at the way fstab handles users and groups on mountpoints ?
[06:55] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, so there is a user called "apache" or something?
[06:56] <sun> Chill6, I build a helloworld program of GTK, but is says can't find the gtk/gtk.h file.
[06:56] <Fandekasp_> Flannel, with pleasure : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/189073/
[06:56] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, the apache user is   : www-data and the apache group is www-data
[06:56] <Freak007> I ran in recovery mode, I got the root thing, I just don't know haw to enter all the changes that I found in the release notes
[06:56] <chalcedny> my husband's computer - kubuntu 9.10 won't let him type more than 2 letters, even to login. what to do?
[06:56] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, my ext. HD gets automatically mounted when i bott my PC, but it is not mentioned in my fstab file anywhere
[06:56] <pshr_> just need to rmmod the nouveau driver what does that mean ???? any one pleaseee
[06:56] <Flannel> Fandekasp_: huh.  Alright, try making that folder owned by www-data
[06:56] <sun> But i am sure I already install the gtk develop environment.
[06:56] <n0b0dy> sun, grep for that file
[06:57] <chalcedny> Flannel, i'm serious about the two letters?
[06:57] <waaron> sun, do you have libgtk2.0-dev
[06:57] <sun> n0b0dy,  how to do grep ?
[06:57] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, your external hardrive isnt listed in fstab most probably because its being auto  mounted via hal or dbus or voodoo
[06:57] <Flannel> chalcedny: What?
[06:57] <sun> yes, I have installed libgtk2.0-dev and relatives.
[06:57] <Freak007> Window corruption with older ATI graphics cards
[06:57] <n0b0dy> man grep
[06:57] <chalcedny> my husband's computer - kubuntu 9.10 won't let him type more than 2 letters, even to login. what to do?
[06:57] <Fandekasp_> Flannel, so I do "chown -R www-data:ww-data /directory"  But then, svn will still be unable to create file there
[06:58] <Flannel> Fandekasp_: Nah, www-data:svn-data
[06:58] <Fandekasp_> Flannel, ok :)
[06:58] <chalcedny> Flannel, you saw that?
[06:58] <airtonix> chalcedny, if you have a livecd i suggest restarting the system with that and test if the keyboard works properly there.
[06:58] <sun> I also found gtk/gtk.h in usr/include/gtk2.0/gtk/
[06:58] <waaron> does gtk require linking with the compiler?
[06:58] <Flannel> chalcedny: I did.
[06:58] <sun> I don't know how to set the linking
[06:59] <Flannel> Fandekasp_: Why do you have a separate svn user, by the way?
[06:59] <waaron> if so you might need -lgtk, or something similar to that
[06:59] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, so could i create another mount point that just loops back to /media/EXTHDD?
[06:59] <Chill6> sun:You need pkg-config's output as a part of the command like this:
[06:59] <Chill6> gcc helloworld.c -o helloworld.exe `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0`
[06:59] <Chill6> Also make sure you got pkg-config installed and configured properly.
[06:59] <Chill6> helloworld.c:1:21: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[06:59] <Chill6> This shows you don't have the GTK headers in the library path
[06:59] <FloodBot3> Chill6: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:59] <sun> I use: gcc HelloGtk.c -o HelloGtk
[06:59] <Fandekasp_> Flannel : I've just read the french tuto http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/subversion#serveur_svn_seul
[06:59] <chalcedny> he's looking for a live cd, airtonix .. flannel any other ideas?
[07:00] <sun> Chill6, that's the problem
[07:00] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, im not an expert on fstab but i have a suspicion that fstab can assign user and group permissions on the mount point for you
[07:00] <anjilslaire> try a different keyboard?
[07:00] <bullgard> iotop outputs "be/4" and "be/3". What does that mean?
[07:00] <SpaceGhostC2C> airtonix: you'd be correct
[07:01] <Flannel> Fandekasp_: I'm not really sure why you'd need a svn user.  You'll be serving this all through apache, right? not svn-serve or anything? (repositories are http://blahblahblah instead of svn://blahblahblah)
[07:01] <Freak007> how do I do this? Then add the 'RenderAccel' option to /etc/X11/xorg.conf:   Section "Device"       ...    Driver "radeon"   Option "RenderAccel" "off"   EndSection
[07:01] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, isn't this what you wanted ? two mount points that point at the same destination but have two different sets of access/write/execute permissions ?
[07:01] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, what about: sudo mount --bind /media/EXTHDD /var/www/exthdd
[07:01] <anjilslaire> to chalcedny,that is. try 2nd keyboard
[07:01] <SpaceGhostC2C> Freak007: you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:01] <Freak007> how do I do that?
[07:02] <chalcedny> anjilslaire, ty after he tries the cd.. we will trade
[07:02] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, yes, problem is its not in fstab
[07:02] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, like i said.. not an fstab expert and i have no idea what the bind param means./
[07:02] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, aha! but... you can add them :)
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> ive seen the bind option used befor. but never saw why it was needed
[07:02] <Zenker> ty again for your help :)
[07:02] <Semitones> SpaceGhostC2C, is xorg.conf still used for configuration? I thought something had replaced it
[07:02] <sun> Chill6, I succeed!!
[07:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> Freak007: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xord.conf && gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> Semitones: it is.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> Freak007:  paste the url to the guide you are following.. that guide MIGHT be out f date
[07:03] <sun> The following is all right! : gcc HelloGtk.c -o HelloGtk `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0`
[07:03] <Chill6> sun: congratulations
[07:03] <Fandekasp_> Flannel, yes. I've returned to my first error now that www-data is the user : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/189074/
[07:03] <Flannel> Fandekasp_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion looks to be less strange.  I've always just done it through apache (and I just sudo -u www-data -i, and then use svnadmin while actually www-data, to make it easier)
[07:03] <Freak007> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#Window%20corruption%20with%20older%20ATI%20graphics%20cards
[07:03] <srini> any other command to sent a msg to Desktop like wall command
[07:03] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, you might like to read his first ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[07:04] <Flannel> Fandekasp_: I use sudo to switch ot that user to create it because I could never get the permissions figured out correctly, you might consider doing the same
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> srini:   theres the various dialog tools that can pop up a message.. but only if you set up the permissions right
[07:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> Flannel: why sudo -u www-data -i? Why not just su?
[07:04] <Flannel> SpaceGhostC2C: You could use su, of course
[07:04] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, but if i place an entry in fstab, for EG. using "/dev/sdb1" would this not change to "/dev/sdb2" one day?
[07:04] <Flannel> SpaceGhostC2C: Except you can't with www-data, because they don't have a login
[07:04] <sun> Chill6, thanks!! But what do those words means?
[07:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> Flannel: oh. good point.
[07:05] <sun>  `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0`
[07:05] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, you can refer to a device via uuid instead
[07:05] <Chill6> sun: are you talking about congratulations
[07:05] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, okay....
[07:05] <airtonix> ae86-drifter, this page is also useful : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[07:06] <Semitones> Flannel, do you know who is in charge of the wifi documentation?
[07:06] <sun> Chill6, I wonder what does they mean: `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0`
[07:06] <Flannel> Semitones: the documentation team I would imagine
[07:06] <harisund> Is there anyway to "bring the terminal to the front" on receiving a bell? I am using irssi, and I want to be notified when I receive a new message
[07:06] <Semitones> Flannel, because it was cutting edge back in the day, but now every time I !wifi, people complain that it's too old :(
[07:07] <SpaceGhostC2C> harisund: it wouldn't be on irssi, it'd be on the putty configs.
[07:07] <waaron> sun: it lists all libraries that need to be linked to the program your compiling
[07:07] <SpaceGhostC2C> Remember to keep it on topic guys.
[07:07] <harisund> SpaceGhostC2C: Not on putty. I got it to work on putty. I want it to work on gnome-terminal. The "Terminal bell" has no effect
[07:08] <harisund> Both gnome-terminal and xterm have no such feature. xterm has a -pob option, but it doesn't seem to work, not sure if it is a bug or if it is designed to work that way
[07:08] <waaron> sun: if you just try pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0 it will list them all
[07:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> harisund: if it's in linux, you can possibly make the system bell repeat until it gets focus, not sure how to.
[07:08] <sun> waaron, what does --cflags mean?
[07:09] <sun> '--libs gtk+-2.0' means link to gtk relative libs, am I right?
[07:09] <waaron> yep
[07:09] <blbrown> with 9.10, when I boot up, I have to select the "Wired connection" for Internet access.  Is there a setting to just startup with "Wired" automatically
[07:09] <Neological3000> !lfs
[07:10] <sun> But what makes it find the gtk header files?
[07:10] <waaron> the --cflags is short for compile flags
[07:10] <root___> :)
[07:11] <Spaztic_One> Holy crap there are a lot of users here... o.o
[07:11] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: do you have a question related to support?
[07:11] <Spaztic_One> I do, actually.
[07:11] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: ask it.
[07:12] <sun> oh I got it.  --cflags & --libs make headers and libs found.
[07:12] <Spaztic_One> I would like assistance with a wireless card.
[07:12] <sun> waaron, thanks
[07:12] <h0rnman> blbrown, is the 'Connect Automatically' box checked for that connection?
[07:12] <waaron> no problem
[07:12] <sqwertle> Spaztic_One: Ask or no one can help you
[07:12] <sun> waaron, but how does it make the gcc find those files.
[07:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: can we get some information? What card, what have you tried and what failed?
[07:12] <blbrown> h0rnman, yes
[07:12] <sun> waaron, but how does it make the gcc find those files?
[07:12] <Freak007> ok I'm stuck, I'm trying to figure this out, but I'm kind of a newb so this is a little over my head
[07:12] <wineman> anybody know how to fix a problem where when i start my computer and push esc key then choose ubuntu,  it starts loading and has the black screen with ubuntu logo for a few seconds, then it goes to black screen to login to tty1,  if i login after i press enter it takes a 30 second break before starting to load the graphic ubuntu logo and finally finish.  My son or dads don't do this and there computers load up really fast compared to mine
[07:12] <Spaztic_One> Well, as far as I can tell Ubuntu isn't even seeing it.
[07:13] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: compiling > sun
[07:13] <Thundarr> is pan the best binary usenet reader for linux? nothing seems to match newsleecher in general.
[07:13] <brjann> !best | Thundarr
[07:13] <Spaztic_One> Its a linksys .. hold on, I forgot what model and such
[07:13] <blbrown> h0rnman, there is also ifup and ifdown whatever.  I can't edit those confs
[07:14] <bullgard> blbrown: There is. Because normally, Ubuntu 9.10 starts up with "Wired" automatically. Likely, your Network Manager applet is misconfigured. Try to find your setting in it.
[07:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: do us a favor, form your question in full, then ask it here.
[07:14] <Freak007> SpaceGhostC2C: what were you saying earlier about cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xord.conf && gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I don't understand what to do
[07:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> Freak007: what is your problem exactly?
[07:14] <Thundarr> lol. this community is hilarious. "dont ask opinions!, you might get some!"
[07:14] <blbrown> bullgard, how do I edit the applet.  the network settings are pretty basic and seem right
[07:14] <StrangeCharm> i'm trying to turn off window decoration in compiz, but whenever i uncheck that setting, it rechecks itself whenever i click on something else, or close the window. how can i change this behaviour?
[07:15] <Freak007> I think it is Window corruption with older ATI graphics cards
[07:15] <gavintlgold> hello, I've just installed UNR on my laptop, and everything is working out very well except that the big menu does not respond to mouse input.
[07:15] <abhi_nav> what is big menu?
[07:15] <gavintlgold> it is not crashed, since it still fades in and out, but i cannot click any icons
[07:15] <SolarisBoy> what does twm stand for? ;>
[07:15] <gavintlgold> the menu that appears in the middle of the screen
[07:15] <SpaceGhostC2C> StrangeCharm: if you don't want window decoration you'll not have the tool bars that have the names of the applications on it.
[07:15] <soreau> StrangeCharm: You would have to start compiz without decoration plugin. Try 'compiz.real --replace ccp'
[07:15] <gavintlgold> the UNR menu
[07:16] <mkquist> gavintlgold: honestly, I'm not a fan of UNR, I have found that the basic install of ubuntu work better.. just mho
[07:16] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: where did you hear it from?
[07:16] <Freak007> SpaceGhostC2C: I am trying to do the fix for this in the release notes but I can't get terminal to work.
[07:16] <StrangeCharm> SpaceGhostC2C, yes! that's what i want!
[07:16] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: i know its a window manager just forgot what the t was
[07:16] <SpaceGhostC2C> Freak007: I don't know at all what you mean.
[07:16] <mkquist> gavintlgold: on two netbooks at least
[07:16] <StrangeCharm> soreau, it's not possible to disable it from the settings manager?
[07:16] <gavintlgold> mkquist, well this computer screen is very low res and I thought I would benefit from it. It is running very nicely other than this one problem
[07:16] <mkquist> gavintlgold: I see no advantage...  again just my opinion
[07:16] <ax> so i have an ubuntu-one account, and there are some instructions about how to use it with evolution for syncing contacts, and i've followed that, but i don't actually see how it syncs.. its using some 'couch-db' desktop server..
[07:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> StrangeCharm: what do you want? Then killall -9 compiz
[07:17] <gavintlgold> I am a fan of the big menu and Maximus
[07:17] <anjilslaire> UNR for karmic runs well on my dell mini 9 witrh
[07:17] <mkquist> gavintlgold: wow old?
[07:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ubuntuone
[07:17] <anjilslaire> with 2gigs of ram
[07:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ubuntuone > ax
[07:17] <SolarisBoy> Tab Window Manager or Tom Window Manager .. interesting
[07:17] <bullgard> blbrown: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7
[07:17] <itheos> i have an intel video card. its pretty old. can this be a reason for hanging of my cam apps and not working of my webcam?
[07:17] <waaron> sun: the pkg-config also lists some flags that makes the compiler search through additional folders like -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
[07:18] <Freak007> SpaceGhostC2C: sorry I may not have been clear, Window corruption with older ATI graphics card, I am trying to do the fix for this in the release notes but I can't get terminal to work, I believe this is part of the proplem I'm trying to fix
[07:18] <gavintlgold> it's a very odd problem. the icons do not have a hover animation either, it's as if something is covering them or grabbing mouse input
[07:18] <StrangeCharm> SpaceGhostC2C, i want no toolbars with program icons/names/size widgets. i want that not to be  part of my ui. i still want compiz to run, i just want it not to render those elements
[07:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: pm > ax
[07:18] <StrangeCharm> soreau, what exactly is "compiz.real --replace ccp" meant to do?
[07:18] <sqwertle> My wireless card is picking up all of the networks in the area with correct encryption types, but won't get passed the "obtaining ip" phase of connection.
[07:19] <Semitones> Freak007, if worst comes to worst, you can boot up from a live cd or usb drive, and edit configuration files from there
[07:19] <SpaceGhostC2C> sqwertle: do you have the password to the acesspoint you want>?
[07:19] <Semitones> Freak007, or the recovery kernel maybe
[07:19] <SpaceGhostC2C> Semitones: he doesn't know how to edit the file at all.
[07:19] <Zenker> ok i just reinstalled ubuntu and im in the process of updating, now it wants to configure grub-pc and its asking me some q's  like install teh package maintainers version, keep the local version,show differences between versions, show a side by side, show a 3 way, do a 3 way merge which is exerimental, or start a new shell to exime the situation, what should i do, i want 2 be up 2 date, but i want everything 2 work the way it is?
[07:20] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: once you authenticate in logs do you ever get an IP from the dhcp server behind access point?
[07:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> Freak007: you need to edit the file we talked about earlier. Usually just add what the release note said.
[07:20] <Flannel> Zenker: did you make any important chances to your grub configuration?
[07:20] <Semitones> Freak007, could you describe more specifically how terminal is "not working"
[07:20] <sqwertle> SpaceGhostC2C: My network is currently unsecure
[07:20] <Zenker> i just reinstalled and the update manager is applying 244 updates flannel
[07:20] <gavintlgold> the app in question is netbook-launcher
[07:20] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: i have no idea what you just asked me :(
[07:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> sqwertle: as in no password?
[07:21] <sqwertle> SpaceGhostC2C: yes :)
[07:21] <intok> I can't get my external firewire HDD to mount, attempting to mount it spits out this error: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/75F6A74274E61336
[07:21] <Zenker> i only know what grub is, i have no idea how to mess w it
[07:21] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: are you offering dhcp services ?
[07:21] <Flannel> Zenker: Ah, then keep the package maintainers version then I guess.  It should back up the other version just in case as well.
[07:21] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: yes.
[07:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> sqwertle: make sure it's yours, and then try to connect. Someone may have logged in and hacked around.
[07:21] <sun> waaron, oh, thanks.
[07:21] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: are other machines on your subnet being addressed properly?
[07:21] <Semitones> intok, are you using regular ubuntu?
[07:21] <bullgard> iotop outputs "be/4" and "be/3". What does that mean?
[07:21] <willfrand> quiero reproducir una pelicula, pero me aparece el siguiente error: VLC es incapaz de abrir el MRL 'dvd:///media/cdrom1/VIDEO_TS/'. Ver el registro para más detalles. uso ubuntu karmic 9.10
[07:21] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: I believe so, yes
[07:21] <researcher1> How can I uninstall Ubuntu server which I have installed in the free space of hard disk which already had Ubuntu Desktop installed
[07:21] <willfrand> hi
[07:21] <sqwertle> SpaceGhostC2C: I'll do a factory reset
[07:21] <Freak007> SpaceGhostC2C: When I tryed to start terminal, I got a white blank space with no window. It was like it wanted to start but didn't
[07:22] <sun> waaron, I think I should take  a look on some books?
[07:22] <gavintlgold> i can use the alt-f1 menu but that's about it :(
[07:22] <willfrand> somebody can help me?
[07:22] <intok> Semitones yes, 9.10 64 bit
[07:22] <sqwertle> SpaceGhostC2C:  scratch that nevermind. I just unsecured it about 10 minutes ago
[07:22] <brjann> !es | willfrand
[07:22] <sun> gcc
[07:22] <Spaztic_One> I am running both Windows XP home, and trying Ubuntu on my machine. My problem is that from what I can tell, Ubuntu (version 9.10) is not identifying my wireless NIC which is identified using IPConfig /all as "Linksys Wireless-G PCI Network Adapter with SpeedBooster." My questions are "Is ubuntu incapable of seeing said hardware?" and "Is there a way to download any Linux-based drivers for...
[07:22] <Spaztic_One> ...it while using the Windows OS and access and install when running Ubuntu?"
[07:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> Freak007: try ALT+F2 and then put xterm in it.
[07:22] <bullgard> !ask | willfrand
[07:22] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: if its pending an address that would imply there is no auth or you successfully authenticated i believe
[07:22] <Semitones> intok, you should be able to see it in the places menu
[07:22] <Zenker> flannel what is the package maintainer's version and if it goes wrong how do i switch to the backup?
[07:22] <itheos> i have an intel video card. its pretty old. can this be a reason for hanging of my cam apps and not working of my webcam?
[07:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: do you have a wired connection?
[07:22] <Spaztic_One> No.
[07:23] <willfrand> i use ubuntu karmic 9.10, but i cannot see movies
[07:23] <Flannel> Zenker: Package maintainers version is the version in the package itself
[07:23] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: just to get the drivers?
[07:23] <SolarisBoy> that authentication would handshake occurs before you are addressed
[07:23] <Semitones> intok, it looks like it's been auto detected, and should show up as something like 240 GB volume
[07:23] <Spaztic_One> I would have to relocate my entire PC to get to one.
[07:24] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy:  I have set it with static IP/DNS and it seems to now be stuck at "verifying access poitn association"
[07:24] <Zenker> flannel if i just keep the current version will i be sacraficing anything?
[07:24] <gavintlgold> This makes me sad, as the performance of UNR and the launcher was impressive. It just doen't capture mouse input. I think it's a problem with the graphics driver
[07:24] <intok> throws the same error, I had the drive connected earlier, but I had to use it on another machine and now cannot get it to work, it woks on the other machines
[07:24] <sqwertle> "connection failed: could not contact the wireless access point"
[07:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: I suggest you use ndiswrapper, located on the livecd, install that to your ubuntu and then use your windows driver temporarily.
[07:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: ndiswrapper > Spaztic_One
[07:24] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: it doesn't have to be static we need to see why you not getting the address, are you running firewall?
[07:24] <Flannel> Zenker: You won't get whatever changes/updates/whatever the package had to that file.  If you're worried about it, check the diff and see what the differences are.  If they look like they're custom to your machine, keep your version, if not, go with the maintainers version
[07:25] <hayden> erorrs: couldnt get the other computer to boot off the disc, but i tried that sudo apt- get update... command and it didnt work
[07:25] <Zenker> flannel thats the prob, i have no idea what im looking at :)
[07:25] <ripthejacker> hi guys
[07:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hi ripthejacker
[07:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hi | ripthejacker
[07:25] <ripthejacker> need help configuring vmware
[07:25] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: on the router? nay
[07:25] <ripthejacker> the modules are not loading
[07:25] <sun>  waaron, I've install the gtk 2.0 document, but how could I read it?
[07:26] <Flannel> Zenker: Does any of it look like it's your machine specific? Other operating systems? UUIDs (thats a big list of hex characters) or anything like that? or is it just random options
[07:26] <Semitones> intok, have you tried anything else?
[07:26] <hayden> erorrs: it seems i need to boot to an older kernel. how do i do that?
[07:26] <Zenker> flannel line by line diff's says
[07:26] <Zenker> --- /etc/default/grub 2010-03-13 00:47:32.335748921 -0600
[07:26] <Zenker> +++ /tmp/grub.EZYht0ACeJ 2010-03-13 01:14:39.852467391 -0600
[07:26] <Zenker> @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
[07:26] <Zenker>  GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[07:26] <FloodBot3> Zenker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> hayden: do you have one installed?
[07:26] <Edwardo> Semitones: The Updates are NEARLY finished
[07:26] <Semitones> intok, you could try sudo umount /dev/whatever
[07:26] <Flannel> !pastebin | Zenker
[07:26] <itheos> !hi | itheos
[07:26] <troopperi> willfrand, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[07:27] <Semitones> intok, and then mount it again
[07:27] <intok> Semitones I've tried to mount it via the desklets, unmount it via gparted, both to no avail
[07:27] <ripthejacker> unable to build vmon modules
[07:27] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, i am getting error Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE, after i mounted it using fstab
[07:27] <hayden> SpaceGhostC2C have one what? ubuntu? yes it was installed. i am trying to reinstall it again though
[07:27] <ripthejacker> shall i pastebin the error?
[07:27] <sun> Hey, I've installed the libgtk2.0-doc. How could I open it and read?
[07:27] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: so the access point runs DHCP correct? or is the DHCP server somewhere else on the lan?
[07:27] <Zenker> sorry i thought it was small enough to get by w it
[07:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> intok: what's the problem?
[07:27] <Flannel> Zenker: No worries, just throw it into pastebin
[07:27] <ripthejacker> SpaceGhostC2C: can you help me please?
[07:27] <Semitones> intok, you should probably use the terminal for this, as it might give us useful output
[07:27] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: Yes, the access point runs DHCP, and currently has it enabled
[07:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> ripthejacker: no. I don't use VMWare
[07:28] <ripthejacker> SpaceGhostC2C: ok
[07:28] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: are you using netmanager on the wireless client system?
[07:28] <Semitones> SpaceGhostC2C, intok's firewire drive says it's already mounted, yet he cannot access it
[07:28] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: and have you ever been on the wireless network at home successfully?
[07:28] <SpaceGhostC2C> hayden: do you have a older kernel already?
[07:28] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: I was initially using the default client, I have also tried Wicd.
[07:28] <SpaceGhostC2C> Semitones: did he mount it with fstab?
[07:28] <intok> SpaceGhostC2C firewire hdd that refuses to mount/unmount since I last used it, it's confirmed working on another machine
[07:28] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: I'm using that connection to speak to you.
[07:28] <ae86-drifter> airtonix, i created two entries in fstab for the same UUID, one with "rw" and the other with just "r" access. only one of those mountpoints work
[07:29] <Monnikje> hello
[07:29] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hi | Monnikje
[07:29] <hayden> SpaceGhostC2C: i just downloaded 9.10
[07:29] <ripthejacker> Anyone here uses vmware workstation willing to help?
[07:29] <ae86-drifter> do i need to reboot my pc to test a new fstab config?
[07:29] <brjann> gavintlgold: what model netbook are you having this issue with?
[07:29] <ripthejacker> I am not able to configure workstation
[07:29] <Semitones> SpaceGhostC2C, I don't know
[07:29] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: kernel > hayden
[07:29] <Freak007> SpaceGhostC2C: hey hey that worked I wil try to do the rest of that now
[07:29] <pfifo> Zenker, I dont update grub, its not a part of ubuntu. There is no reason to update unless you have a specific situation to do so, in which case you probbally have a customized setup.
[07:30] <intok> Semitones SpaceGhostC2C :~$ sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[07:30] <intok> umount: /media/75F6A74274E61336: not found
[07:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> Freak007 nice.
[07:30] <Monnikje> I'm upgrading grub 0.97 to grub 1.98. All is going well, although I'm now stuck with configuring grub-pc
[07:30] <Freak007> SpaceGhostC2C: thanks
[07:30] <gavintlgold> brjann, well, It's not a netbook exactly, it's an old compaq computer. But it's got a low res screen and a pretty slow processor. It's running intel integrated graphics
[07:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> intok: not like that.
[07:30] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: ok.. so 2 things. 1. /var/log/messages may contain some more detail as to why you have not spoken with DHCP,, and 2. the command 'iwevent' should allow you to see some detail of the connection to wireless while you are connecting
[07:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> intok: where is it mounted?
[07:30] <Semitones> intok, does the problem persist even if you log out or restart?
[07:30] <hayden> ubottu: i got it, but i don't know how to boot an old one.
[07:31] <gavintlgold> brjann, it's a compaq presario
[07:31] <sun> Hey, I've installed the libgtk2.0-doc. How could I open it and read?
[07:31] <Zenker> flannel i think ill take pfifo's adv and just leave it alone, 4 now anyhow untill i know more aobut things
[07:31] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: and are you running any firewall on the client with no wireless connection?
[07:31] <Semitones> intok, also, try typing "mount" without any arguments
[07:31] <hayden> ubottu: oh
[07:31] <Edwardo> Semitones: Okay, updating done, nothing happened Semitones
[07:31] <Zenker> ty though
[07:31] <supermatt1000> i need help installing this program http://epsxe.com/download.php
[07:31] <Monnikje> I got the screen to install devices: I can choose any of my hdd's, or <ok>, but whatever I choose, the next screen is 'you choose not to install grub, do you wish to continue'
[07:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> Edwardo: restart
[07:31] <Edwardo> did
[07:31] <brjann> gavintlgold: run lspci and copy/paste the line describing your graphics card for me? should start with something like "VGA compatible controller"
[07:31] <Semitones> Edwardo, ok, that's normal. the next step is to actually install the drivers now that the system is up to date
[07:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> Edwardo: okay, you might need a wired connection to fetch your wireless drivers.
[07:32] <intok> SpaceGhostC2C thats where it's claiming to be mounted at, but I can't get anything from it plugged in or not, ubuntu still thinks its mounted and thusly refuses to mount it refusing acess to it
[07:32] <gavintlgold> brjann, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[07:32] <Semitones> Edwardo, try going to system>administration>hardware drivers (or something like that)
[07:32] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: Not that I know of, the install is straight out of the box plus a few updates while I had the oppurtinity for wired access
[07:32] <Zenker> besides, i wont be doing any crazy installs w 10 diff os's n networking and all that stuff so, its prolly just fine the way it is
[07:32] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: I have no idea what I'm looking at really in the \messages file
[07:32] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: so wired connection on _that_ machine gets address dhcp fine?
[07:32] <supermatt1000> i need help installing this program http://epsxe.com/download.php
[07:32] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle lets tone down the amount of messages by using the command grep
[07:33] <sqwertle> um... mkay