[15:59] <pbx> MetaMorph_, http://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-dreamweaver/?platform=linux
[15:59] <MrElendig> MonkeyDust: wysiwyg is evil
[15:59] <reisio> MetaMorph_: for what, exactly?
[15:59] <MetaMorph_> please tell me..
[15:59] <zeruio> which is not good for reading ?
[15:59] <qmania> OerHeks: When I tried to run  rvm osx-ssl-certs status all, I get https://dpaste.de/Nz2U
[15:59] <MetaMorph_> i know bluefish, but it doesnt have design panel like dreamweaver..
[15:59] <reisio> zeruio: du -h ... | sort -h
[15:59] <MrElendig> zeruio: it is good for reading
[15:59] <reisio> MetaMorph_: might try kompozer
[16:00] <MrElendig> better than one unit fits none
[16:00] <MetaMorph_> how to install it from terminal?
[16:00] <MrElendig> MetaMorph_: man aptitude
[16:00] <MetaMorph_> ?? i dont get it MrElendig
[16:01] <MrElendig> MetaMorph_: type that in a terminal
[16:01] <MetaMorph_> no manual entry, it said
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> MetaMorph_  this has a panel http://bluegriffon.org/
[16:02] <MrElendig> silly ubuntu
[16:02] <MrElendig> man apt-get then
[16:02] <pbx>  or apt
[16:03] <MrElendig> you should have that man page though
[16:03] <MrElendig> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/aptitude.8.html
[16:03] <MetaMorph_> downloading aptitude
[16:04] <ceed^> Hi, I've got a lot of this: http://hastebin.com/apatoqedax.cs in my syslog. Any idea what it is? Running 15.04
[16:04] <realBigfoot> MrElendig, do you know what is Metric in ip-route ?
[16:05] <MetaMorph_> well.. i just ran aptitude.. and terminal changes.
[16:05] <MrElendig> not something you should worry about
[16:05] <MrElendig> just set the default route to go trough whatever interface you want
[16:05] <finetundra> hello folks, I have managed to break lightdm somehow and I'm now unable to login. it just flashes a couple of times. can anyone help?
[16:06] <MrElendig> finetundra: read the log
[16:06] <finetundra> MrElendig: what log?
[16:06] <MrElendig> for lightdm and xorg
[16:06] <finetundra> where's it at?
[16:06] <MrElendig> depends on if you are using systemd or not
[16:06] <MetaMorph_> is this a software manager?
[16:07] <zeruio> and also what is difference between byte and Byte ?
[16:07] <MrElendig> if not, /var/log like everything else
[16:07] <MrElendig> zeruio: nothing
[16:07] <reisio> Byte is at the beginning of a sentence :p
[16:08] <MetaMorph_> im stuck at aptitude.. dont know what to do..
[16:08] <finetundra> MrElendig: mind elaborating?
[16:08] <daftykins> reisio: hey long time no see
[16:08] <reisio> heyo dafty
[16:09] <reisio> MetaMorph_: mind elaborating?
[16:09] <MetaMorph_> what?
[16:09] <daftykins> !details
[16:09] <MetaMorph_> i dont say that
[16:12] <finetundra> if it helps, this happened right after( like an idiot) I ran sudo startx
[16:12] <genii> MetaMorph_: The idea is, instead of "I'm stuck at aptitude", please give us more information about what is happening or not happening, like error messages or other behavious, so we have a better idea how to help you.
[16:13] <ioria> finetundra, have you  tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ?
[16:14] <MetaMorph_> genii: like i said before, i want to know what software in ubuntu that like dreamweaver
[16:14] <dvrr> how  to install ubuntu asus ME301T tablet it is supportor not  please guide  me...
[16:14] <finetundra> ioria: I have. I also tried switching to gdm
[16:14] <realBigfoot> MrElendig, do you know what is wrong -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10985262/ ?
[16:14] <MetaMorph_> and MrElendig told me to install aptitude
[16:14] <reisio> dvrr: that's an android preinstalled tablet?
[16:14] <ioria> finetundra, cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ?
[16:15] <dvrr> yes
[16:15] <thell> Hi all. Could anyone running an ubuntu 15.04 do a quick dmesg grep for "multicast" for me? I'm seeing systemd-journald[65]: Failed to join audit multicast group: Operation not permitted and I've only installed a few things... docker/lxd/lxc
[16:15] <jzp113> hi
[16:15] <finetundra> ioria: no such file or directory
[16:15] <reisio> dvrr: can you boot from usb? That's potentially the only hurdle
[16:15] <jzp113> Error: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64/bin/java not found or not a valid JDK I get the right folder why it's that?
[16:15] <realBigfoot> Does anyone know how can I configure ubuntu to use eth0 over wlan0 when both devices are connected ?  Perhaps it is ubuntu gnome specific...
[16:17] <OerHeks> finetundra, login with ctrl alt F2, and change ownership
[16:17] <realBigfoot> reisio, maybe it is... but i could not find anything that confuses it
[16:17] <ioria> finetundra, ok --   ls -al ~/.Xauthority ?
[16:17] <finetundra> OerHeks: can you walk me through that?
[16:17] <thell> Anyone with ubuntu gnome 15.04 will to check a dmesg | grep multicast for me?
[16:18] <jzp113> reisio, doesn't work
[16:18] <dvrr> reisio   i am fallowing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b17Bfza1X3A
[16:19] <dvrr> reisio
[16:19] <reisio> dvrr: haven't watched it, but I'm guessing that's for installing Ubuntu inside Android, and not replacing it
[16:19] <finetundra> ioria: -rw------- 1 root root 65 (todays date)
[16:20] <ioria> finetundra, ok.   sudo chown  user:user .Xauthority (user -- yuour user)
[16:20] <finetundra> ioria: do I put my user where it says user?
[16:20] <ioria> finetundra, ok.  yes
[16:21] <OerHeks> finetundra, yes, or use $USER:$USER
[16:21] <daftykins> you of course don't need to repeat the user for the second time if you're using the same for User + Group
[16:21] <daftykins> so "sudo chown user: file"
[16:22] <dvrr> reisio  can you please  provide  me any url how to install ubuntu
[16:22] <OerHeks> daftykins +1 , very nice
[16:22] <daftykins> !manual | dvrr
[16:22] <reisio> dvrr: can you boot from usb? That's potentially the only hurdle
[16:23] <finetundra> ioria: do I type that bit in ()?
[16:23] <ioria> finetundra,    no just the comand
[16:24] <finetundra> ioria: ok, so that bit is to mean that I place my username where 'user' is in the command?
[16:24] <ioria> finetundra,  yes
[16:24] <finetundra> ioria: done
[16:24] <finetundra> ioria: what's next
[16:24] <finetundra> ?
[16:24] <ioria> finetundra, ok --   ls -al ~/.Xauthority     again ?
[16:25] <finetundra> ioria: it says (my user) (my user) where it said root before. is that a good thing?
[16:26] <ioria> finetundra, can you paste it here ?
[16:26] <finetundra> ioria: yip, give me a sec
[16:27] <finetundra> ioria: -rw------- 1 james james 65 (todays date)
[16:27] <OerHeks> This issue should be solved now, rboot
[16:27] <EriC^^> finetundra: or sudo service lightdm restart
[16:27] <Nokaji> can some point me in the right direction please  - I have connected my phone via USB to my PC . How do I enable internet sharing so I can install an app and browse the web?
[16:28] <ioria> finetundra, reboot so it's clean
[16:28] <ioria> finetundra, otherwise you did something else
[16:28] <OerHeks> too many roads to get things done :-D
[16:29] <finetundra> ioria;OerHeks, it works now. :) and now I know than to mess with startx
[16:30] <OerHeks> finetundra, great, have fun
[16:30] <ioria> finetundra, good
[16:32] <rgb-one> Hey
[16:38] <boodllebat> I'm trying to clear my terminal history using "history -cw" but it does not get cleared when i open terminal again
[16:38] <reisio> boodllebat: history -c; history -w
[16:38] <reisio> or history -c; rm ~/.bash_history
[16:38] <reisio> or maybe history -c -w works, I forget, it's a little tricky
[16:39] <reisio> you need to clear and write to ~/.bash_history (or delete it), though
[16:39] <reisio> both
[16:39] <boodllebat> reisio: thanks first one worked for me :)
[16:40] <boodllebat> reisio: can you tell where can i find my ubuntu recycle bin i did search on ubuntu search dash screen but i'm unable to find recycle bin
[16:40] <reisio> or maybe history {-c,-w}? :p
[16:40] <reisio> boodllebat: find ~/.local -iname '*trash*'
[16:41] <crackth> hello
[16:41] <boodllebat> reisio: thanks worked for me :)
[16:42] <crackth> The robot?
[16:43] <Memento_Mori> hi everybody
[16:44] <daftykins> lo
[16:44] <daftykins> oh :( that was brief
[16:45] <crackth> hi
[16:45] <reisio> crackth: ?
[16:49] <crackth> reisio no
[16:49] <reisio> crackth: no what?
[16:49] <crackth> reisio i will sleep
[16:49] <crackth> reisio lol
[16:49] <reisio> ...
[16:50] <crackth> haha
[16:50] <crackth> reisio good night
[16:51] <Orphis> Has anybody any experience cross compiling a 32bit native python module in a amd64 trusty?
[16:57] <Nokaji> to connect my phone via usb to the pc internet, where do i begin? - setting up network connection or giving a device access to something?
[16:59] <Nokaji> ICS?
[17:00] <genii> Nokaji: Connecting a phone or tablet by usb so that it can use the PC's internet connection is not a simple subject. You need special software on the phone for it.
[17:02] <Nokaji> I'm using android v2.? _ remeber using windows software but have no idea of ubuntu equivalent
[17:02] <EriC^^> Nokaji: why don't you just use ubuntu's hotspot feature
[17:03] <Nokaji> wi-fi?
[17:03] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:03] <Nokaji> If that proves easier, I'll look in to it - thanks
[17:03] <EriC^^> go to settings > network > wifi > create hotspot
[17:04] <reisio> you need something to emit the signal, of course
[17:04] <genii> Nokaji: The simplest solution as EriC^^ suggests is to use the machine's wifi to share it's wired connection, acting as an AP. Check into the app hostap
[17:04] <reisio> of course if the machine already has wifi, you probably already have a wireless router... and could just use that
[17:04] <Nokaji> I've got a bluetooth dongle and some other one, memory eacapes me what it is
[17:04] <reisio> phones being wireless devices...
[17:05] <Nokaji> 802.11N
[17:05] <Nokaji> okay, you persuaded me
[17:06] <Nokaji> used to be faster via usb but i only need a temporary connection to install a helicopter app
[17:06] <reisio> a helicopter app? :p
[17:07] <Nokaji> I-helicopter
[17:11] <yanlf> quit
[17:11] <azizLIGHT> anyone use teamviewer? how come this program shows up on boot and you have to close it out? why doesnt it run in the background?
[17:12] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: they make it, ask them that :)
[17:16] <dimitry7> Hi guys, I am connecting through openvpn to my servers. when I do # w, to see who's logged in, I see everybody's IP is the same than my Open VPN's IPs. What can I do to configure that the real connecting IP appears there?
[17:39] <Mavrick__>  boa tarde galera por favor
 alguem poderia me ajudar
 tenho debian com gnome
 apos fazer upgrade
 pede login mas nao inicia o gerenciador de janelas
 ja reinstalei o gnome-core e nao funcionou
[17:40] <studio_> Mavrick__, why you talk portuguese
[17:41] <studio_> ?
[17:43] <CereS2009> Hi, i have a problem with my Broadcom 4352 (:43b1) wireless card: It works, but only with two networks in my reach. - Not my normal WiFi Router.
[17:44] <CereS2009> The working one is a wireless access point from my mobile phone.
[17:44] <flipapy> whats the ubuntu core thing? is it an os? or is it something that i run on an os?
[17:44] <kostkon> !snappy
[17:47] <flipapy> so i dont have a cloud from just installing 15.04 right?
[17:47] <XLV> so.. i reckon everybody in here has already upgraded to 15.04? any hiccups? .. i usually allow a month or so before i upgrade, to permit some time for canonical to iron out the last bugs
[17:48] <flipapy> well.. the unity interface is slow, like reeeaaaly slow
[17:49] <flipapy> it's pretty , um... slow and blippy. the unity access typing, i write and it's like one letter then two, wait, ok 3 then 4. you get the idea
[17:49] <macspace> My upgrade is definately quicker...unity was no problem for me, but I had a wireless snag...I found an answer with about 30 seconds of googling...no problems since
[17:49] <flipapy> oh yeah, it was great, instaled really fast
[17:49] <Bashing-om> flipapy: Do you have the processing power, GPU, and ram to support unity ?
[17:50] <flipapy> oh yeah Bashing-om i have like 2.67 dual core i5-480m
[17:50] <flipapy> and 8gig ram
[17:50] <flipapy> on an ssd 500mbps r/wr
[17:50] <azizLIGHT> Is there a way to forward osd-notify events to my phone somehow?
[17:51] <Bashing-om> flipapy: Yepper, should fly ! .. next is to see if some process is hogging the memory . maybe 'top' or install 'htop' and have a lookse ?
[17:51] <tonyyarusso> I have a system that I'm trying to triple-boot Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora.  For each of them the / is on a LUKS-encrypted LVM volume, and /boot is on a regular partition (sda1 for Debian, sda2 for Fedora, and sda3 for Ubuntu).  Right now, when letting Ubuntu manage Grub, os-prober/update-grub is only detecting Ubuntu.  How do I make it notice the other systems for the grub menu?
[17:53] <CereS2009> Hi, i have a problem with my Broadcom 4352 (:43b1) wireless card: It works, but only with two networks in my reach. - Not my normal WiFi Router. (Part2) I changed my wifi router to use 5Ghz Band, now the card can "see" it.
[17:53] <azizLIGHT> For example, if some program does a osd-notify notification, it also gets told to my android phone
[17:53] <flipapy> ok Bashing-om gimme a min
[17:54] <flipapy> it says compiz using 219MiB Bashing-om
[17:55] <Bashing-om> flipapy: I think that is a trival amount . let it run see if anything else pops up consumming inordinate amount of the processor's power .
[17:56] <flipapy> compiz jumped to 21+% when i openned the unity launcher Bashing-om
[18:00] <Bashing-om> flipapy: In "top" ? is that reading from %CPU or %MEM .. and still not a lot to be concerned about as compiz is resource intensive . - so long as it goes back down, releasing the memory .
[18:00] <slava___> I recently upgraded to 15.04 from 14.10 and it appears that ubuntu (intel, i915) now can't drive my secondary 4k monitor at full resolution (Dell Lattitude 7440, using display port through the dock)
[18:00] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, you'll need to write your own android app to recieve that.
[18:01] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: I can use Tasker somehow
[18:03] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: I'd there a way to get all the notifications, I can get it to Android in multiple ways
[18:03] <azizLIGHT> Just confused about the ubuntu side
[18:05] <flipapy> well aside from the unity button going lethargically slow, the os seems fine.
[18:06] <flipapy> oh and on the chrome site, it says to download chrome through the package manager, but chromium is the only thing i find in the software center.
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  chrome is based on chromium
[18:07] <flipapy> MonkeyDust, but i tried using netflix on chromium and it didnt work
[18:08] <daftykins> chromium probably lacks the DRM component right?
[18:08] <Nokaji> Well that is interesting ... Now that is interesting, after being told that not even Socrates himself could fgure out how to install a phone app over USB, I discover I not only managed it but i did so accidentally.
[18:08] <flipapy> probably
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> i'm unfamiliar with netflix
[18:09] <xangua> flipapy: you need to download the .deb package offered at the google chrome site
[18:11] <flipapy> it's ok, i'm doing it the way i did before, but i was wondering because i noticed someone said run google-chrome-stable in the terminal, it worked but then i went to run plank from the terminal using sudo plank, and that messed my icons up, particularly my chrome icom and a few more, so i thought it might be something to do with the chrome terminal run
[18:11] <flipapy> it's ok though i'm runnign it through the browser, it worked
[18:11] <daftykins> afaiui the .deb actually just installs the PPA
[18:12] <daftykins> which is... confusing
[18:15] <xangua> why would you run a simple dock wish sudo...
[18:19] <flipapy> i was just checking to see if it would run because it didnt run when i rebooted xangua
[18:20] <Thubo> [A
[18:20] <Thubo> [A
[18:20] <Thubo> [A
[18:26] <hikenboot> anyone in here use boot-repair? I run it and it just hangs forever on purge kernels then reinstall last kernel mapper/
[18:33] <zonkhades420san> Hello
[18:36] <DammitJim> now that I have joined an ad domain using sssd, what do I need to do to allow samba to share folders for different users
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> !samba | DammitJim read this
[18:38] <DammitJim> ubottu, did you get the part where I want to use sssd?
[18:38] <DammitJim> rather MonkeyDust
[18:40] <ponyup> what is skel?
[18:40] <daftykins> DammitJim: what even is that?
[18:40] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html#sssd-ad-samba
[18:41] <EriC^> ponyup: skel is where the skeleton files go, like templates
[18:41] <Dro__> where recordmydesktop record temp files ?
[18:41] <bazhang> !info sssd
[18:41] <DammitJim> thanks OerHeks I think I might have done this tutorial before, but I'll do it again since you recommended it
[18:42] <OerHeks> and restart smb proper :-)
[18:43] <DammitJim> it's weird, when installing krb5-user, it doesn't ask for admin server nor kdc server like the tutorial mentiones
[18:51] <DammitJim> OerHeks, I followed the tutorial, but when I do getent passwd, it doesn't list the domain users
[18:53] <turnor> how can I fix this dpkg error? I've tried apt-get -f install and apt-get purge but both commands error out: http://pastie.org/10142893
[18:54] <OerHeks> DammitJim, you should, If enumerate = true is set in sssd.conf .. but the tutorial showes you that it slows things
[18:55] <OerHeks> and not sure about your previous remark,' it doesn't ask for admin server nor kdc server '
[18:55] <DammitJim> I should enumerate?
[18:55] <DammitJim> not sure what you mean with" you should, if enumerate...
[18:55] <DammitJim> in my case enumerate = true
[18:59] <daftykins> turnor: hmm, not 100% but a dpkg -r --force-all might work
[19:00] <diasydios> hello
[19:00] <turnor> daftykins: no luck, same error. I need a way to skip the callbacks on uninstall
[19:01] <diasydios> i need help about turing machine who can help me
[19:01] <daftykins> about what? just ask the question
[19:02] <diasydios> how can i do the similator of turing machine in langage C
[19:05] <daftykins> diasydios: that sounds like a development question, not an OS support question :) join a programming channel.
[19:06] <Natherul> hey all, anyone got a cyborg rat mouse to work with new versions of ubuntu? theres no xorg.conf file to edit anymore it seems...
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> diasydios  type /j ##c++
[19:07] <ioria> diasydios, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10503377/turing-machine-simulator
[19:07] <diasydios> ioria thanks for your help
[19:07] <ioria> diasydios, install build-essential, first ;-)
[19:08] <daftykins> Natherul: you make one :)
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> !xorg | Natherul true
[19:09] <OerHeks> !info libacme-brainfck-perl
[19:09] <OerHeks> = turing language
[19:10] <genii> !xorgconf
[19:16] <DammitJim> OerHeks, how do I use the tutorial you recommended together with sharing samba folders for user's home drives?
[19:17] <Morpheus> Good day
[19:17] <Guest48831> What is happening in here>
[19:18] <genii> I guess they couldn't hang around long enough to find out
[19:18] <m1dnight_> Anyone here using ubuntu on a 4k resolution? Ive installed it since today, came from xfce, but its slow as hell.
[19:19] <m1dnight_> Running any browser fully expanded slows down the system incredibly. Animations freeze and such.
[19:19] <m1dnight_> I do have an AMD gpu, if that counts :>
[19:19] <FlyWithMeh> Hey! I'm having a row with my samsung laptop on which I'd like to install Ubuntu
[19:19] <FlyWithMeh> Someone experience with samsung laptops not recognizing (any) OS usbs?
[19:19] <FlyWithMeh> I've tried win7, 8 and now ubuntu :(
[19:19] <m1dnight_> must be your usb drive then.
[19:19] <m1dnight_> What kind of drive is it?
[19:19] <m1dnight_> I have had issues with certain usb 3.0 drives.
[19:19] <FlyWithMeh> tried different drives too
[19:20] <FlyWithMeh> 8 to 32 gb
[19:20] <m1dnight_> Have you checked in the bios?
[19:20] <m1dnight_> to see if it shows up there..
[19:22] <FlyWithMeh> I have. But i'm giving up, the lady is fed up with my tinkering
[19:22] <FlyWithMeh> Thanks for thinking with me :)
[19:23] <ioria> DammitJim, can you post smb.conf ?
[19:23] <DammitJim> ioria, which one?
[19:24] <DammitJim> I don't even know what I have in there right now (after all the tutorials I have followed)
[19:24] <ioria> DammitJim, just one, for now
[19:25] <tester> www.opera.com/tr
[19:25] <tester>
[19:25] <DammitJim> http://pastebin.com/f6qTnJFF
[19:27] <kat_> Hi, guys, I was trying to clean install, and I have a broken laptop screen, so I'm using a monitor. When I try to clean install, the new OS is only showing up on half of the screen. How do I fix that? I can't fix that on my monitor. I already tried.
[19:29] <daftykins> kat_: what graphics hardware + driver?
[19:29] <daftykins> kat_: also which version ubuntu?
[19:29] <ioria> DammitJim, one with a valid user ?
[19:29] <genii> kat_: You need to add an xrandr line to the lightdm config to turn of the defective monitor
[19:29] <DammitJim> ioria, I don't know what you mean....
[19:30] <DammitJim> I want to share all users's home folders from this linux server to windows clients
[19:30] <kat_> what do you mean genii?
[19:31] <kat_> How do i turn off defective monitor?
[19:32] <ioria> DammitJim, you have to add valid user, like in the basic configuration of samba
[19:32] <daftykins> kat_: show us a pastebin of "xrandr"
[19:33] <kat_> don't know how to do that.
[19:33] <DammitJim> ioria, like a user share? I don't know what you are asking... I want this server to serve home folders for all users in the domain
[19:34] <daftykins> kat_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && xrandr | pastebinit
[19:34] <genii> kat_: Apologies on lag, work is requiring me often right now. Basically, you need to find what the defective one is being called, probably LVDS, and make a shell script with xrandr command in it to disable that display. Then in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf a line display-setup-script=/pathto/that-xrandr-script
[19:35] <genii> kat_: daftykinsMay be able to assist in a better capacity for instructing you on this right now
[19:35] <daftykins> genii: ^5
[19:36] <ioria> DammitJim, and is necessary sssd ?
[19:36] <DammitJim> sssd is what everyone is recommending
[19:36] <ioria> DammitJim, the win clients are on a lan ?
[19:36] <DammitJim> yes
[19:37] <reisio> I think 'slitherd' would be cuter and less awful a name
[19:37] <Fjorgynn> Hey I am looking at making a persistant partition
[19:37] <reisio> Fjorgynn: hey, far out
[19:37] <gahan> !upstart
[19:37] <Fjorgynn> it says I must use vfat/FAT32 for the dvd/livecd. Why FAT32?
[19:39] <ioria> DammitJim, sssd config is a bit triky, there are a lot of files, maybe you can do a normal samba share with auth passwd
[19:40] <ioria> DammitJim, take time ;-)
[19:47] <Fjorgynn> that didn't sound good
[19:47] <ioria> yep
[19:48] <InFlames> hello, i am trying to get my android phone to be recognized by my virtualbox on ubuntu 14.04, when i try to create the usb filter it never shows the usb device
[19:50] <reisio> InFlames: what on earth for
[19:51] <thell> This is interesting; on ubuntu 15.04 capsh --supports=cap_audit_read returns cap[cap_audit_read] not recognized by library, yet /usr/include/linux/capabilities.h defines it. Perhaps libcap needs to be installed from source?
[19:53] <InFlames> reisio, for testing stuff that only runs under windows 8.1 with an android phone, it's for work
[19:54] <InFlames> reisio, any ideas?
[19:54] <shlant1> hi all! is there a reason why I can ping an entry in my hosts file without http:// but not with http://?
[19:54] <reisio> InFlames: what're you trying, exactly?
[19:54] <gahan> It seems like I'm using systemd (systemd-sysv is installed) but I've got some upstart error messages in .xsessions-errors (upstart-event-bridge & at-spi2-registryd keep respawning. However logfile begins with openConnection: connect: No such file or directory)
[19:54] <InFlames> i am trying to connect my android phone via usb to my virtublabox windows 8.1
[19:55] <daftykins> shlant1: ping is ICMP, you cannot ping via HTTP
[19:55] <gahan> Should I try installing upstart-sysv instead and rebooting? I'm on 15.04
[19:55] <SCHAAP137> InFlames, have you tried #virtualbox ?
[19:55] <shlant1> daftykins: ah. So telnet? dig?
[19:55] <daftykins> shlant1: what are you trying to achieve?
[19:56] <InFlames> SCHAAP137, oops, didn't realize which channel i was in, thanks
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> InFlames  it's #vbox
[19:56] <shlant1> daftykins: trying to test a connection between 2 docker containers.
[19:56] <SCHAAP137> yeah #virtualbox redirects to there, i just noticed
[19:56] <shlant1> daftykins: the container name is in hosts and I can ping without http://
[19:56] <shlant1> and telnet
[19:56] <reisio> InFlames: I meant what precise process were you trying, re: usb
[19:57] <InFlames> #virtualbox forwards to #vbox, thanks MonkeyDust
[19:57] <shlant1> but my app says it can't communicate
[19:57] <daftykins> shlant1: telnet on host:80 would be able to banner grab if you typed in an HTTP GET, sure
[19:57] <daftykins> i don't have a clue with docker so can't really help there
[19:57] <InFlames> reisio, it's proprietary software for my company that requires windows to run, i just need the phone to show up in vbox and we're good reisio
[19:57] <shlant1> daftykins: i'll try that, thanks
[19:58] <reisio> InFlames: yes, you've said three or four times; what I'm asking is what you have tried, specifically
[19:59] <InFlames> oh reisio, just the basics, connect, mount with ubuntu, unmount with ubuntu, and trying to create a vbox filter, but i can't see the device
[20:00] <Jordan_U> gahan: What is the contents of /proc/cmdline?
[20:01] <reisio> InFlames: you've got the extpack?
[20:02] <gahan> Jordan_U: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.19.0-16-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[20:02] <InFlames> reisio, yes, installed and confirmed, the port in question is usb 3.0, which apparently might be the issue, but i'm not sure i have usb 2.0 ports
[20:03] <reisio> InFlames: on a laptop?
[20:03] <fsc421> hola
[20:03] <InFlames> yes, a laptop
[20:04] <InFlames> in virtualbox you should be able to simply add the device if it's connected via usb, but i can't see it
[20:04] <fsc421> hola alguien puede ayudarme con un problema?
[20:04] <InFlames> there is another option to manually configure it, but i can't see any details with that to configure it manually
[20:04] <genii> !es | fsc421
[20:04] <CoperFix> que te pasa fsc
[20:05] <OerHeks> InFlames, is the android unlocked, before connecting?
[20:05] <daftykins> InFlames: should be pretty obvious, 3.0 = blue
[20:05] <fsc421> no puedo instalar photoshop en wine
[20:05] <loa> why unity don't save windows position? for example i maximized terminal, and unity don't save this
[20:05] <InFlames> daftykins, except that's not entirely true in all cases, but i believe this side has usb 2.0 ports, as the other side is blue
[20:06] <genii> Blue is 3.0
[20:06] <CoperFix> ni idea del tema sorry yo uso gimp o alguna online
[20:06] <InFlames> usb 3.0 is not always blue, it should be by spec, but isn't always
[20:06] <fsc421> o mejor dicho se instala pero no puedo ejecutarlo
[20:06] <daftykins> InFlames: it's true more often than it isn't
[20:06] <InFlames> OerHeks, i am trying that now, didn't think about it being locked
[20:07] <InFlames> daftykins, very true, i think this laptop might be one of the instances where it's not entirely accurate
[20:07] <daftykins> fsc421: English only thanks
[20:07] <daftykins> InFlames: well you should see the little lightning bolt and "SS" written beside them even without blueness :D
[20:07] <pbx> the mic on my cinema display shows up as an audio *output* option in google hangouts rather than input.  can i tweak this?
[20:07] <solsTiCe> hi. nautilus is always showing me hidden files. I have hidden those files again via nautilus option, but they show up anyway next time I open nautilus.
[20:08] <InFlames> daftykins, i've confirmed the side i am using is usb 2.0 according to the laptop's specs
[20:08] <daftykins> hmm visual inspection would've been roughly a billion times easier :D
[20:08] <InFlames> daftykins, only if it's accurate, which is why i said what i did
[20:09] <InFlames> i've seen it, that's why i keep saying that
[20:09] <daftykins> but you can see the USB 3 pins at the back with your eyes
[20:09] <InFlames> do they even look different?
[20:10] <daftykins> yes
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> InFlames  http://troysblog.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/USB-2.0-i-3.0.jpg
[20:11] <daftykins> wrong end but yeah the extra 5 contacts in at the back
[20:11] <InFlames> i see
[20:12] <scorp> Hi, im trying to install ubuntu on a seperate hard drive, should i use wubi to install or use cd/usb?
[20:12] <EriC^> scorp: cd/usb
[20:12] <genii> Gah, wubi
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> scorp  use cd/usb
[20:13]  * zykotick9 though wubi was finished?
[20:13] <daftykins> scorp: 100% recommend never touching WUBI
[20:13] <daftykins> it is the devil.
[20:13] <InFlames> hmm 'VBoxManage list usbhost' doesn't show anything
[20:13]  * genii keeps stabbing wubi with a sharpt stick hoping it will die
[20:13] <scorp> ok thanks guys
[20:13]  * daftykins joins genii
[20:13] <sd1001> I know someone with a horse called Wubi
[20:13] <reisio> sd1001: chinese?
[20:13] <sd1001> Nope
[20:13] <daftykins> ah crap i just killed a horse
[20:13] <rinki> how do i share files between 2 laptops on the same network:
[20:13] <reisio> sd1001: asianese?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> i don't even speak out the name
[20:14] <daftykins> rinki: both ubuntu?
[20:14] <rinki> xubuntu
[20:14] <rinki> 1404
[20:14] <sd1001> The owner of the horse is Danish, I don't know where she got the name from
[20:14] <daftykins> rinki: SCP files over then?
[20:14] <sd1001> She might also spell it differently
[20:14] <rinki> i dont understand?
[20:14] <daftykins> !scp
[20:14] <daftykins> or setup samba on a folder perhaps.
[20:15] <sd1001> If you have to copy directories/want to us a graphical file manager, sshfs might be what you want
[20:15] <rinki> i think i want samba, it can share still if i need to boot to windows for work
[20:15] <daftykins> though encryption would be a big waste of time
[20:15] <reisio> sshfs is nice
[20:15] <daftykins> rinki: yep
[20:15] <reisio> well, it'd be a comparative waste of time
[20:15] <daftykins> !samba
[20:15] <zykotick9> sd1001: fyi, "scp -r foo/ host:~ " works for copying directories
[20:15] <reisio> although you can disable encryption with sshfs if you want
[20:16] <sd1001> Wait, it does?
[20:16] <EriC^> sd1001: yeah
[20:16] <sd1001> sshfs is nice though, for editing files for example
[20:16]  * sd1001 should read more mans
[20:16] <reisio> sshfs is much more intuitive
[20:16] <reisio> FUSE Ftw
[20:16] <reisio> and also ftw
[20:17] <zykotick9> reisio: personally, i'd use the f-the-world instead of "for the win" when talking about FUSE, but YMMV
[20:18] <reisio> kinda the same meaning, really :p
[20:18] <hyo0301> Ehm
[20:18] <hyo0301> Help?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> hyo0301  with what?
[20:19] <hyo0301> (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing live file system
[20:20] <EriC^> hyo0301: boot a live usb, check partition names/uuid
[20:20] <daftykins> hyo0301: is that you trying to boot a flash drive? remake it
[20:21] <hyo0301> boot a live usb?!
[20:21] <hyo0301> Wubi does that automatically
[20:21] <hyo0301> then tells me to restart, and I get that msg
[20:22] <EriC^> troll alert..
[20:22] <daftykins> oh lord you're using WUBI?
[20:22] <daftykins> don't.
[20:22] <hyo0301> Isn't that the only way to live-cd?
[20:22] <daftykins> no
[20:22] <hyo0301> oh god
[20:22] <hyo0301> I only did it because I have no usb
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> hyo0301  forget wubi, it's a pseudo installation and causes more troubles than problems
[20:22] <daftykins> oh Tux indeed
[20:22] <daftykins> hyo0301: burn a DVD?
[20:22] <daftykins> if you have neither, give up
[20:23] <jpds> There's always VM.
[20:23] <SCHAAP137> do not use wubi
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> anything else, rob a bank, but don't use wubi
[20:24] <hyo0301> VM works great
[20:24] <hyo0301> I have no dvd and usb
[20:24] <hyo0301> ...
[20:24] <jpds> hyo0301: ...
[20:24] <SCHAAP137> woah
[20:24] <reisio> not robbing banks is overrated
[20:24] <SCHAAP137> what do you have? firewire?
[20:24] <hyo0301> Wll then my linux career ended before I even started, so many tutorials for nothing~~
[20:24] <hyo0301> I literally just had WUBI
[20:25] <jpds> hyo0301: Just get a VM.
[20:25] <hyo0301> It worked before
[20:25] <hyo0301> VM is boring
[20:25] <daftykins> hyo0301: here's a good tutorial: visit your local supermarket, buy a flash drive
[20:25] <hyo0301> I want to replace OS
[20:25] <reisio> what's the problem?
[20:25] <EriC^> i agree with daftykins
[20:25] <jpds> hyo0301: USB drives are cheap.
[20:25] <reisio> not to be confused with an unsuper market
[20:25] <hyo0301> How many GB'S?
[20:25] <jpds> hyo0301: 2?
[20:25] <hyo0301> 2 is enough?
[20:25] <jpds> hyo0301: Yes.
[20:26] <hyo0301> OK i'll be back tomorrow, same time, with an USB of atleast 2GB
[20:26] <reisio> minimal image is what, <40MB? :p
[20:26] <hyo0301> you better help memesters
[20:26] <daftykins> !manual | hyo0301 save this and you don't need to come back at all :) (in a nice way)
[20:30] <NwS> Heya guys, which method would you suggest to backup a site hosted on an ubuntu server?
[20:30] <daftykins> NwS: website? tar the docroot then scp it home
[20:30] <reisio> NwS: why? How often? To where?
[20:31] <daftykins> mysqldump if there's a db too
[20:31] <canine> can someone help? I tried to upgrade to lastest php version now i cant seem to get my phalcon framework to work. So I am trying to downgrade but after doing apt-get purge on everything I keep getting errors like this one: Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.24+dfsg-1+deb.sury.org~precise+1) but 5.6.8+dfsg-1+deb.sury.org~precise+1 is to be installed
[20:31] <NwS> daftykins, tyvm
[20:32] <MLB> I used to run daily backups via a script through an integrated schedule of ubuntu
[20:32] <daftykins> canine: did you add a PPA with it? (5.6)
[20:32] <MLB> , but i can't recall what it's called unfortunately
[20:32] <NwS> reisio, I want to keep an offline copy of my website. One time atm
[20:32] <canine> i did but i purged the ppa
[20:32] <daftykins> canine: smells like some remnants remain
[20:32] <canine> What can I do ? :(
[20:32] <InFlames> yay, solved, i wasn't part of the usergroup vboxuusers, duuuuuuh, thanks guys :]
[20:32] <daftykins> canine: consult dpkg -l output for any such packages still installed
[20:32] <daftykins> dpkg -l | grep php
[20:33] <NwS> daftykins, btw I was also thinking of git
[20:33] <daftykins> NwS: no experience with that
[20:33] <canine> yeah a bunch with  5.6.8+dfsg-1+deb.sury.org~precise+1
[20:33] <daftykins> purge them
[20:33] <NwS> Basically create an offline copy, work with gitlab, upload changes
[20:33] <canine> cool, doing it now
[20:33] <NwS> Haven't looked into that yet though
[20:34] <reisio> NwS: could rsync once daily, that'd give you 24 hours to revert
[20:34] <reisio> some more sophisticated solutions are obnam, rdiff-backup
[20:35] <reisio> rsnapshot
[20:35] <NwS> I will look into that too reisio tyvm
[20:37] <tyler_wy1ie> Greetings; I am wondering if anyone here has done a preseed.cfg for any of the newer releases of Ubuntu Server(we're using 14.04 specifically) and can help point me in the right direction
[20:38] <Parabola> hm, so i've got synapse installed, i can see it with dpkg -l, it was installed via apt, however apt-get remove synapse says its available but not currently installed
[20:39] <Parabola> i mean, its running right now, the key combo works, so i know its there, how should i go about removing this?
[20:39] <azizLIGHT> how do i capture all notifications on my computer, and forward them to my phone?
[20:39] <daftykins> !info synapse
[20:40] <EriC^> Parabola: paste the line of dpkg -l
[20:40] <daftykins> oh my tux ubottu is gone
[20:40] <Parabola> rc  synapse                                              0.2.99~bzr607~ubuntu15.04.1                amd64        semantic file launcher
[20:41] <Parabola> is there a way to rebuild the package DB?
[20:41] <daftykins> removed configured, it's not installed Parabola
[20:41] <EriC^> Parabola: it's not installed, it's just the config files cause it says rc
[20:41] <Parabola> yeah thats cute, but no correct
[20:41] <Parabola> my key combo still launches the application.
[20:41] <Parabola> i can interact with it, it still launches things, i'm 100% certain its present
[20:41] <daftykins> perhaps you haven't restarted to allow it to be removed
[20:41] <Parabola> i already tried that
[20:41] <daftykins> or perhaps you're using a version compiled and isn't actually package based
[20:41] <Parabola> i did not compile it, the OS was installed two days ago
[20:42] <EriC^> Parabola: what's the key combo and how did you set it
[20:42] <Parabola> i remember installing it, i did an ubuntu-desktop removal
[20:42] <Parabola> and installed xubuntu-desktop, im blaming that
[20:42] <Parabola> EriC^: ctrl+space
[20:42] <EriC^> Parabola: how'd you set it
[20:42] <EriC^> ?
[20:42] <Parabola> the key combo? on first run of the application
[20:42] <Parabola> two days ago, many reboots ago
[20:42] <Parabola> prior to xubuntu-desktop install :)
[20:42] <EriC^> Parabola: type dpkg -L <package> | pastebinit
[20:43] <Parabola> sec ill find the binary
[20:43] <Parabola>      3113  3095  0 May03 ?        00:00:05 synapse --startup
[20:43] <Parabola> which synapse gives me nothin :-\
[20:44] <Parabola> Package `synapse' does not contain any files (!)
[20:45] <ubuntu-noob> hi I have a question about mount partition.. I create one in /mnt/storage and I add to fstab /dev/vdc        /mnt/container  ext4    rw,user,exec    0       1... but when I try to move files using another user I can't :( ... I already change the folder permissions to 777 and I change the user and group for this folder to: drwxrwxrwx  6 myuser myuser 4096 Mai  4 15:58 container/ ....anybody knows whats happen? I would like give ac
[20:46] <EriC^> Parabola: try to install it then purge maybe
[20:46] <Parabola> deal :)
[20:47] <EriC^> ubuntu-noob: can you type ls -ld /path/to/mountpoint && id ? and paste here
[20:47] <EriC^> ubuntu-noob: with the user you're using to move the files
[20:47] <CoJaBo> Is there a sane way to set up a SCP-only daemon, ideally completely seperate from the sshd config? It looks like I can run a second sshd, but there's no way to specify a different set of allowed users..
[20:51] <ubuntu-noob> EriC^: uid=0(root) gid=0(root) grupos=0(root)
[20:52] <EriC^> ubuntu-noob: run it as the user you're using
[20:52] <ubuntu-noob> ah ok
[20:53] <ubuntu-noob> uid=1003(leesh) gid=1003(leesh) groups=1003(leesh),105(fuse),123(plex)
[20:53] <ubuntu-noob> EriC^: uid=1003(leesh) gid=1003(leesh) groups=1003(leesh),105(fuse),123(plex)
[20:53] <EriC^> ubuntu-noob: ok, type ls -ld /path/to/mountpoint
[20:53] <ubuntu-noob> EriC^: drwxrwxrwx 6 leesh leesh 4096 Mai  4 15:58 /mnt/container/
[20:54] <EriC^> ok, looks good
[20:55] <EriC^> ubuntu-noob: touch /mnt/container/bla doesn't work?
[20:56] <ubuntu-noob> EriC^: yeah works... only if I try to move something from /home/leesh to /mnt/container .. doesnt works :/
[20:56] <daftykins> example?
[20:56] <EriC^> like what?
[20:57] <ubuntu-noob> like ...using ssh I can ... but if I connect using SFTP .. when I try to move... I cant .. like move any file
[20:58] <EriC^> i've no idea
[20:59] <daftykins> ubuntu-noob: but you SFTP with another username?
[20:59] <daftykins> create a group, add your user and the second user to that group
[21:00] <daftykins> now modify the mount point ownership to be yourusername:thegroup
[21:00] <EriC^> ubuntu-noob: the second user has to have write access to /home/leesh to move anything
[21:00] <EriC^> you can probably copy but not move
[21:04] <ubuntu-noob> EriC^: weird because the file that I'm trying to use is created by leesh .. and I'm trying to move this file to the /mnt/storage
[21:05] <daftykins> but you're connected in over SFTP as a second user?
[21:05] <ubuntu-noob> no.. im using the user leesh
[21:05] <daftykins> ah ok
[21:05] <daftykins> earlier sounded like different
[21:05] <EriC^> ubuntu-noob: what do you mean by /mnt/storage?
[21:05] <ubuntu-noob> daftykins: ah.. sorry hehehe
[21:06] <daftykins> np
[21:06] <ubuntu-noob> ops not storage /mnt/container is my new HD .... so im trying to make all users write and move files over there
[21:13] <courrier> Hey guys, I'm on Linux Mint 17 Qiana, but the problem may also concern Ubuntu itself. I've noticed some bugs of pulseaudio's pulse/mainloop.c fail when using the pygame module for python. It's difficult to reproduce however and happen unexpectedly :(
[21:13] <courrier> 1) Assertion 't = find_next_time_event( m )' failed at pulse/mainloop.c:721, function calc_next_timeout() . Aborting .
[21:13] <courrier> 2) Assertion 'e->mainloop->n_enabled_defer_events > 0' failed at pulse/mainloop.c:260, function mainloop_defer_enable(). Aborting. [I've currently a gdb paused after SIGABRT on this assert, if I can provide a backtrace a something useful tell me before I reboot...]
[21:13] <EriC^> !mint | courrier
[21:14] <courrier> ah, er, sorry :P
[21:14] <EriC^> np
[21:14] <courrier> But it may concern ubuntu as well
[21:15] <Parabola> it may, or it may not
[21:15] <EriC^> if you'd like report it on launchpad.net
[21:15] <EriC^> or maybe use mint's bug-report feature
[21:16] <courrier> EriC^: yeap, but I'd like to provide a useful traceback or something first. Since it's hard to reproduce and I've a gdb opened when the bug happened
[21:16] <EriC^> launchpad.net i guess
[21:16] <tag> Sometimes the content area of windows isn't updating
[21:16] <CoJaBo> Is it impossible to have a seperate sshd instance with a seperate list of user accounts? Trying to replace an FTP server with SCP..
[21:16] <Parabola> EriC^: do you know what the best thing in the world is?
[21:17] <EriC^> Parabola: what?
[21:17] <Parabola> putting frozen peanut m&ms in your cup of ice cream after work
[21:17] <EriC^> nice
[21:18] <epx998> Whats the best tool for benchmarking ubuntu?
[21:18] <Parabola> export: peanut m&ms prob.
[21:18] <Parabola> export: what kind of benchmarking..
[21:18] <Parabola> google "linux benchmarking software" i'd go with one of the top 3 links
[21:18] <epx998> lol
[21:19] <Parabola> :)
[21:20] <Parabola> export: phoronix has one thats pretty popular: http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/
[21:20] <genii> !info hardinfo
[21:20] <epx998> needs to be a cli, no gui available
[21:20] <Parabola> erm he left
[21:21] <Parabola> oh, i cant read, thats nice
[21:21] <Parabola> hm ok
[21:22] <Parabola> epx998: nubcakes the phoronix is CLI
[21:22] <Parabola> http://www.howtogeek.com/111617/how-to-benchmark-your-linux-system-3-open-source-benchmarking-tools/ <-- has phoronix, i see a CLI menu
[21:23] <_2cool4me4_> I'm trying to set up Samba and get an Ubuntu box to join the Windows AD here.
[21:23] <genii> epx998: There's also sysbench, it's command-line
[21:24] <epx998> ill check them out
[21:24] <_2cool4me4_> I can use nslookup and find the DC, ping the DC by IP and ping 'name', but 'name.fully.qualified' doesn't seem to resolve
[21:26] <tag> Compiz doesn't always seem to be updating all areas of some windows.
[21:28] <_2cool4me4_> Okay, that spreads to all addresses. I can ping 'name' fine, but not 'name.fully.qualified'
[21:29] <west536457640> something is driving me mad about ubuntu 14.04
[21:30] <west536457640> the screen blanks after 5 minutes of inactivity
[21:30] <west536457640> and every way i try i cannot fix this
[21:30] <sunstar> whats the 'k' mean in kde?
[21:30] <west536457640> heeeeeeeeelp please
[21:31] <k1l> sunstar: better ask the kde guys? :)
[21:31] <genii> sunstar: KDE is a play on CDE which came earlier. In that, C was for Common ( Desktop Environment) ... so the K basically means Kommon
[21:31] <courrier> Is it compulsory to upload a gpg key before submitting a bug to launchpad? I'm logged but there is no option to submit a bug...
[21:32] <west536457640> i know it is a dumb problem but it really is making me go bananas, can anyone help me fix it please?
[21:33] <reisio> it?
[21:33] <sunstar> cool.
[21:33] <reisio> sunstar: pick one channel, goof
[21:33] <sunstar> but this worked perfectly. got the answer and the backstory
[21:34] <mwic> hey, guys I have a weird issue: "df -h" is not showing anything mounted at /
[21:34] <M4ca> Someone have trouble shutting down your pc?? Istead of it, it only close de user session.
[21:34] <mwic> I thought it might need a restart but that didn't help
[21:34] <mwic> system works fine, but it's weird that / is not mounted . .
[21:34] <M4ca> I say, because I found a solution for that
[21:34] <k1l> sunstar: crossposting will lead to the people not help you anymore. so please read the guidelines and make sure to stick to them
[21:34] <sunstar> i cross posted because i realized ubuntu was prolly the wrong room to be asking and you cant retract something once its in the room
[21:35] <k1l> mwic: what does "mount" list? and "df -h"? can you pastebin it?
[21:35] <tag> Sometimes the content of windows (particularly with Qt applications) doesn't update
[21:35] <west536457640> how do i fix this - xfce power settings are set to never blank screen, but it goes off anyway, makes watching a video impossible
[21:35] <tag> like, I'll click on something, it should redraw...it doesn't.
[21:35] <tag> Seems to have something to do with compiziting
[21:35] <tag> compositing
[21:35] <genii> west536457640: Try: xset dpms off
[21:37] <west536457640> ok i have run $ xset -dpms
[21:38] <west536457640> as genii suggested, should that fix it by itself?
[21:39] <genii> west536457640: That should disable the power savings feature of your monitor so that it won't go off after a while. It will not persist over a reboot, however
[21:40] <west536457640> genii, thanks, i am going to be inactive for a bit now to test it,
[21:40]  * genii goes to make coffee
[21:48] <flipapy> is ubuntu-offtopic still around?
[21:48] <genii> flipapy: Yup
[21:48] <flipapy> thanks genii
[21:48] <genii> np
[21:51] <chris3100> Hello
[21:51] <genii> chris3100: Hello. If you have a question concerning your Ubuntu, this is the channel to ask it in.
[21:52] <phix> hai chris3100
[21:53] <phix> Whatcha wearing?
[21:53] <k1l> phix: you know the rules. dont abuse this channel. thanks
[21:53] <thell> What apt tool should I use to download download a source pkg (lipcap2-24.6), then modify it (update capabilties.h) and build/install it? I though apt-build would be the tool, but it will only do 'install' not 'source'?
[21:54] <phix> k1l: right, I will ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:55] <Jordan_U> phix: That comment is not appropriate in any channel.
[21:56] <elstud> will 15-4 update properly if you remove firefox?
[21:56] <tag> I just updated and if I boot to the newest kernel, I get a blank screen and the graphics never initialize
[21:56] <phix> Jordan_U: right
[21:56] <tag> To get my system to boot, I have to manually select the previous kernel
[21:56] <k1l> elstud: can you explain that question a bit more?
[21:57] <tag> Anyone have any idea why that might be?
[21:57] <k1l> tag: make sure the video driver is installed on the new kernel. if its loaded from the website you might need to reinstall it for the new kernel
[21:58] <tag> It wasn't loaded from a website, it was installed by default
[21:58] <elstud> I read somewhere that if you delete Firefox ubuntu will not update.
[21:58] <tag> or by the ubuntu installer at any rate
[21:59] <elstud> I want to use Chrome
[21:59] <tag> k1l, it's an intel driver.  It was proving to have some issues as it was
[21:59] <tag> I just installed this morning
[22:00] <k1l> elstud: should be not an issue
[22:00] <k1l> tag: what video card is it?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> elstud: Removing Firefox (or any other package instaled by default) will remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage. While that metapackage is not needed for keeping packages up to date within a release of Ubuntu, it is recommended that you re-install ubuntu-desktop before upgrading to the next release of Ubuntu (which will be Ubuntu 15.10). Otherwise, Firefox has nothing to do with updating Ubuntu.
[22:01] <elstud> update with terminal?
[22:02] <sunstar> you can use chrome without removing firefox
[22:02] <reisio> elstud: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[22:04] <elstud> thanks for the info.
[22:04] <Jordan_U> elstud: I don't understand your last question. Please use complete sentences.
[22:04] <RustIndy> Is there a way to set sendmail up so that it rewrites *all* recipient email addresses to one I specify?
[22:04] <reeee> So why aren't you using gentoo?
[22:05] <k1l> reeee: this is a ubuntu support channel.
[22:06] <jadesoturi> hi all. ive setup a hybrid-ircd server as to per: http://www.codeography.com/2012/09/23/howto-irc-server.html without the bouncer/znc, as its only for internal use - but im having issues with being an oper on it. e.g. its always the first one in to get OP, and even if i login as oper with the password that was setup, im not allowed to do any changes.. how does one controll this or setup chanserv or similar?
[22:09] <canine> [authz_core:error] [pid 10660] [client <IP_ADDRESS>:54066] AH01630: client denied by server configuration
[22:09] <canine> Forbidden
[22:09] <canine> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[22:10] <canine> So, I have a site enabled i did a2ensite sitename, worked fine\
[22:10] <canine> i edited apache2.conf from deny, to granted
[22:10] <canine> still no go, anyone knows how to fix this? :(
[22:12] <genii> canine: Might want to try ##httpd
[22:14] <chris3100> Hello
[22:14] <chris3100> I have an issue with my computer, and kind of ubuntu
[22:14] <rm-f> тест
[22:15] <genii> !ru | rm-f
[22:15] <rm-f> Всем привет
[22:15] <chris3100> When my computer boots up, it displays "F2 and F12" for BIOS and Boto manager, but when i push F2 nothing happens
[22:16] <chris3100> The only way I can access my UEFI Bios settings, is through a fake OS i created to give me an error to push ESC through the windows boot manager
[22:16] <chris3100> and installed Ubuntu by changing bios, to legacy, and now i can only get into the bios if my battery is really low, or if i remove the clock battery from the mother board to give me an error
[22:17] <chris3100> I changed different boot options, changed fast start up, secure boot, and a bunch of other things
[22:17] <rm-f> boots default
[22:18] <chris3100> updated the BIOS in windows from the Dells' website
[22:18] <chris3100> still unable to press F2 to enter BIOS
[22:18] <chris3100> any suggestions?
[22:19] <rm-f> Небольшой джампер, возле батарейки
[22:19] <k1l> rm-f: this channel is english only. please use the russian channel
[22:20] <rm-f> Всем ночи!
[22:21] <dmj`> why don't environment variables persist when using upstart
[22:22] <chris3100> I really do not like UEFI :(
[22:22] <rm-f> кто вешал на вайн 1.7 ЦВОТ  9.7 с джова мод?
[22:23] <rm-f> еуы
[22:23] <k1l> !ru > rm-f
[22:24] <chris3100> rm-f, Я думаю, вы должны присоединиться к русский канал , для лучшей поддержки . :::   I think you should join a russian channel, for better support.
[22:24] <chris3100> See how accurate google is lol
[22:25] <chris3100> let's see*
[22:34] <chris0626891> The Ubuntu repository by Libretro team at Launchpad doesn't include the autoconfigs in the .deb packages. :(
[22:35] <lasindi> Hi all, is there a (working) replacement for the (non-working) Sound Recorder app in Ubuntu?
[22:35] <lasindi> I see recommendations to install Audacity, but that seems like overkill for what I want.
[22:36] <rgb-one> anyone know of a trusty ppa for qt5?
[22:38] <chris3100> rgb-one, why not 'Sound Recorder' ?
[22:38] <rgb-one> chris3100: What do you mean?
[22:38] <chris3100> oops
[22:38] <lasindi> chris3100, According to all the reviews on the software center, it doesn't work.
[22:39] <chris3100> lasindi, why not sound recorder?
[22:39] <chris3100> lasindi, Why is it pre-installed?
[22:39] <lasindi> chris3100, ^ apparently it doesn't work.
[22:39] <MrElendig> lasindi: adacity is the single best sound recording app ever
[22:39] <MrElendig> pretty much
[22:39] <rgb-one> lasindi: check alternativeto.net for alternatives to whatever software you may want to use
[22:40] <MrElendig> and what little it can't do, gnuradio can
[22:40] <lasindi> chris3100, I don't think it is.
[22:40] <k1l> lasindi: "do you think" or did you test it?
[22:42] <lasindi> k1l, I have only looked at the reviews, but I'll try it and make sure.
[22:43] <lasindi> They also say Ubuntu is intending to remove it from the distro
[22:43] <Boss_Man> what audacity?
[22:43] <chris3100> Oo
[22:44] <k1l> lasindi: can you please just test it before we keep discussing theoretical things?
[22:44] <chris3100> lol
[22:46] <lasindi> k1l, yup, in the process
[22:47] <chris3100> I am trying to get my touch screen to work on my laptop. It worked before, after dist upgrade, it isnt showing in lsusb
[22:48] <chris3100> any suggestions?
[22:50] <joao> Hi everyone!
[22:50] <Nairolf21> hi joao
[22:51] <lasindi> k1l, okay, I confirm it doesn't work.
[22:51] <lasindi> k1l, worse, when you install through the software center, it doesn't appear to actually install the gnome-sound-recorder package
[22:52] <joao> How can i know if im using nvidia driver or noveau? I want to learn it using the terminal.. :)
[22:53] <joao> anyone?
[22:53] <joao> xD
[22:54] <chris3100> joao, lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA
[22:54] <Nairolf21> perl command is necessary ? I don't think...
[22:55] <ragepanda> any of the ls commands will list hardware (lsusb, lshw, lspci)...so if  you wan't to know what's in  your system, start there. :)
[22:56] <joao> This is my output:
[22:56] <joao> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [8086:0166] (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[22:56] <joao> So the nvidia is not been used?
[22:56] <ragepanda> That's probably your onboard video card that's built into your motherboard
[22:56] <chris3100> joao, nvidia-detector
[22:57] <Nairolf21> I've a stupid question. Why, usually the command shortcut ctrl+C doesn't work in any terminal ?
 Output:joao@joao-X550CL:~$ nvidia-detectornone
[22:58] <joao> None
[22:58] <courrier> Nairolf21: it depends of what process is running in that terminal, some of them ignore this signal, some quit, some other do evil things...
[22:59] <samthewildone> whats the password for ubuntu live ?
[22:59] <samthewildone> I just restarted lightdm
[22:59] <samthewildone> 15.04
[23:00] <Nairolf21> courrier : terminal isn't like an "usual" software, that's why no ? I'm using xfce4-terminal. And I think that anyway what process is running this shortcut (ctrl+C) doesn't work
[23:00] <samthewildone> !ubuntulivepassword
[23:00] <tonyyarusso> samthewildone: Haven't tried recently, but in the past it's either been blank or ubuntu.
[23:01] <samthewildone> we tried it
[23:01] <Nairolf21> courrier : So it's not a weird will of terminal's developper, but it's something complicated or impossible to do in terminal ?
[23:01] <ragepanda> Does CTRL + Z work?
[23:01] <chris3100> joao, Do you know what kind of Nvidia graphics card you have?
[23:01] <Nairolf21> what CTRL + Z is supposed to do ? Because it's like CTRL + Z do nothing
[23:02] <MrElendig> joao: laptop?
[23:02] <joao> Its a hybrid
[23:02] <joao> Intel + Nvidia
[23:02] <ragepanda> It's supposed to pause the program, or CTRL + \ to murder it outright.
[23:03] <Nairolf21> but no specific program is running
[23:03] <Nairolf21> I do that just after opening a terminal
[23:03] <joao> I tried to install the new driver for nvidia, but i think something go wrong
[23:03] <samthewildone> HELLO!
[23:03] <courrier> Nairolf21: If no process is running in that terminal then nothing should happen
[23:03] <Nairolf21> Usualy, I type CTRL + C or D to stop an action
[23:04] <courrier> Nairolf21: You would like to use Ctrl+C to kill the terminal itself?
[23:04] <courrier> or to kill the process running in that terminal?
[23:04] <MrElendig> joao: 1. never ever use the .run directly
[23:05] <MrElendig> joao: 2. read up on bumblebee
[23:06] <Nairolf21> No, I just ask why CTRL+C is not for copy text (as usual in other programs)
 im trying to revert the situation... I think the install of nvidia drivers should be much easier
[23:07] <chris3100> Nairolf21, Ctrl+Shift+C is to copy in a terminal
[23:07] <MrElendig> joao: don't use <>, it looks like you are quoting me
[23:07] <joao> Sorry...
[23:07] <Test1> Hello this is a tes
[23:07] <Test1> t
[23:07] <MrElendig> joao: and the install of nvidia drivers is easy, just aptitude install nvidia
[23:07] <joao> XD
[23:07] <Nairolf21> I suppose that Ctrl+Shift+V is to past ?
[23:07] <rgb-one> Does anyone know of a ppa for Qt5?
[23:07] <Nairolf21> paste
[23:08] <Nairolf21> but, why it's like this ? It's not really intuitive.
[23:08] <joao> But MrElendig, if i want them updated, that command is not enough
[23:08] <MrElendig> joao: roll your own .deb then, or use ppa
[23:09] <MrElendig> and as I said, you have to read up on bumblebee
[23:09] <MrElendig> the nvidia driver can not work without it
[23:09] <MrElendig> (or prime, but prime is totally broken atm)
[23:10] <courrier> Nairolf21: Good question. Terminals always behave like this, Ctrl+C sends SIGINT signal to the running process. I would say this behaviour is muuuuch older than the invention of Ctrl+C as a copy shortcut =)
[23:10] <Nairolf21> Yes, I thought it was something like that
[23:11] <joao> MrElendig im am not the developer... That makes no sense... Nvidia should make things to people who dont understand nothing about computers...
[23:11] <MrElendig> most modern terminals has C-shift-c,v,x for copy/paste/cut
[23:11] <Nairolf21> And I suppose it would not be really difficult to change this, but all pure geeks would cry into hysteria ^^
[23:12] <chris3100> joao, Nvidia is lacking support for Linux.
[23:12] <courrier> MrElendig: but no other app uses these shortcuts;
[23:12] <cryptodan> chris3100: not true
[23:13] <DF3D2> I have a new ubuntu 15.04 install, it's an Intel Xeon e3 1220v1 w/ 16 gigs of ram, 6x3TB Zfs storage array, and an nvidia 750ti. This is a storage server/htpc. Problem is whenever it goes to "sleep" as in tv is blanked, it will not "awaken" by using the kb/mouse. I have to reboot it fully to get a video signal, this is connected via hdmi and I have the nvidia binary driver installed manually.
[23:14] <cryptodan> a better solution for hybrid graphics would be not to build computers with them
[23:14] <Nairolf21> thanks for your answers
[23:15] <MrElendig> DF3D2: never ever install the nvidia driver using the .run
[23:15] <chris3100> cryptodan, Nouveau would have been pointless. It's for better energy management.
[23:15] <MrElendig> cryptodan: or just actually bother to write drivers for them
[23:15] <cryptodan> You want a gaming rig with discrete graphics then you shouldnt care about energy
[23:15] <MrElendig> cryptodan: or atleast release the specs
[23:16] <cryptodan> you want to conserve energy get a computer designed for light use
[23:16] <MrElendig> some people want to do both on one machine
[23:16] <MrElendig> and it is not just about gaming
[23:17] <DF3D2> MrElendig, why not?
[23:17] <chris3100> cryptodan, I don;t want to start a debate. lol
[23:17] <MrElendig> DF3D2: because it breaks your system
[23:17] <cylon512> Hi, in ubuntu 14.04 booted in text mode, after update, except blank powersave screen there is white screen, any advice what to do?
[23:17] <DF3D2> MrElendig, i've never heard that before, what is the proper way to get the legit nvidia driver then?
[23:17] <MrElendig> DF3D2: due to conflicting libgl implementations etc
[23:17] <MrElendig> DF3D2: using the package manager
[23:17] <MrElendig> DF3D2: or creating your own .deb
[23:18] <DF3D2> MrElendig, okay ill uninstall and use the package manager then
[23:18] <DF3D2> is that what is causing my no signal issue likely?
[23:18] <MrElendig> using the .run will also give you file conflicts etc
[23:18] <DF3D2> well it didn't complain about anything
[23:18] <DF3D2> not saying you are wrong
[23:18] <MrElendig> use the .run, it replaces libgl, you then upgrade your system, a new mesa gets installed and replaces the libgl that the .run installed
[23:18] <DF3D2> just saying it claimed to have finished w/ out error
[23:18] <MrElendig> boom, you can no longer start X
[23:19] <DF3D2> system had noveaou or whatever when I installed it
[23:19] <DF3D2> removed that and installed the .run
[23:19] <MrElendig> not to mention that if you don't use dkms then you would ahve to reinstall the driver with every kernel upgrade
[23:19] <MrElendig> noveau is a part of the kernel
[23:20] <DF3D2> MrElendig, it did install via dkms
[23:20] <DF3D2> made a module etc
[23:20] <MrElendig> will still break the second mesa/libgl gets updated
[23:21] <DF3D2> well on 14.10 I updated plenty of times with no issues after installing the .run
[23:21] <MrElendig> just dumb luck of libgl not getting updated
[23:21] <DF3D2> tbh im not sure this is causing my problem with "sleep" and no signal
[23:21] <DF3D2> its not the Tv either
[23:21] <DF3D2> tv works fine
[23:21] <MrElendig> ssh in, read xorg logs and poke xrandr
[23:22] <DF3D2> good idea
[23:22] <MrElendig> edid errors is a typical problem
[23:22] <DF3D2> ill do that when the wife is done watching this
[23:22] <DF3D2> the TV is a pretty standard LG hdtv
[23:22] <MrElendig> specially since TVs epicly fail at providing correct edid
[23:22] <DF3D2> well it works when the rig is rebooted
[23:22] <DF3D2> so the TV obviously can provide whatever is necessary
[23:23] <nicholosophy> my default browser is set to firefox but everything still opens in Chrome. What do?
[23:25] <Rufus>  Hello everyone. http://pastebin.com/Ds4CMykC  can anyone explain to me please why after that little script, I get ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) ? I've been using simple alfa-numeric passwords only
[23:26] <MrElendig> Rufus: use keys/certs
[23:27] <Rufus> sorry MrElendig ?
[23:36] <xdexter> Hello, my dash does not exhibit the applications of search, and if I resize the terminal window it just closes, can not find what might be causing this, someone help me?
[23:40] <karen_> hi, guys, if I want skype, what do I do? It's not in the software center.
[23:40] <EriC^^> !skype | karen_
[23:43] <karen_> thanks Eric
[23:43] <EriC^^> karen_: no problem
[23:43] <karen_> and ubottu
[23:53] <shaggycat> Hi all! How I can complete disable motd Ubuntu message? I change /etc/motd, and make chmod -x /etc/update-motd.d/ , and it's works! But... only for second user login! But I want see custom motd for first login too
[23:57] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there any web based monitoring tools for servers? (I have three ubuntu servers and I want to monitor them all at once.)
[23:58] <shaggycat> Oh! I grep /etc/ and find solution myself: :> /etc/legal
[23:59] <shaggycat> mojtaba, try zabbix
[23:59] <dtigue> mojtaba, Where I work we use Nagios
[23:59] <shaggycat> mojtaba, or nagios, monit


[00:14] <Sarvatt> sweet, flash has vdpau and crystalhd acceleration now
[00:16] <RAOF> crystalhd?
[00:23] <Sarvatt> that broadcom card a lot of netbooks ship with to do video acceleration
[00:24] <Sarvatt> they're pretty cheap, i've got a spare full sized mini pcie slot in my netbook and it's tempting :)
[00:40] <RAOF> Heh.
[01:19] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, not on 64 bit it doesn't
[01:22] <RAOF> Eh.
[01:23] <bjsnider> i'd like to see flash go the way of realplayer
[01:23] <bjsnider> remember realplayer?
[02:01] <ion> Does Flash still do scaling and color format conversion in software even though using VDPAU?
[02:04] <RAOF> I think VDPAU's powerful enough to actually make that work; whether Flash uses it or not I don't know
[02:10] <ion> Ah, sorry, i mixed up VDPAU and VA-API. I’ve tried xvba-va-driver (which provides VA-API for fglrx), and vlc seems to still use Xv or one of its equivalents with it, which lead to my question.
[02:11] <Sarvatt> hmm yeah our libvdpau is still all kinds of messed up regarding 32 bit on amd64, we just dropped the 32 bit build because ia32-libs is in universe, it needs to be built with --with-module-dir=/usr/lib32 to work there from what I can see
[02:15] <Sarvatt> you have to set the moduledir path at compile time to adjust where it looks for the drivers looking at this http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~aplattner/libvdpau/commit/?id=0537b13e292bc772e984872a3986e41fb51f9258
[02:25] <Sarvatt>     -> 0, "NVIDIA VDPAU Driver Shared Library  260.19.26  Sun Nov 28 22:58:32 PST 2010"
[02:25] <Sarvatt> vdp_presentation_queue_target_create_x11(1, 81788969, -)
[02:25] <Sarvatt> [19475:19475:38699139682:ERROR:app/x11_util.cc(59)] X Error detected: serial 271, error_code 9 (BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)), request_code 139 minor_code 4 (Unknown)
[02:25] <Sarvatt> romium-browser/chromium-browser --type=plugin --plugin-path=/usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so --lang=en-US --plugin-data-dir=/home/sarvatt/.config/chromium/Default --channel=19385.0xb8973a20.1456222274: ../../src/xcb_io.c:183: process_responses: Assertion `!(req && current_request && !(((long) (req->sequence) - (long) (current_request)) <= 0))' failed.
[02:26] <Sarvatt> hey I finally found something that can reproduce that xcb assertion
[02:29] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxcb/+bug/419501
[02:30] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 419501 in python-qt4 (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 6 other projects) "apport-kde assert failure: python: ../../src/xcb_io.c:242: process_responses: Assertion `(((long) (dpy->last_request_read) - (long) (dpy->request)) <= 0)' failed. (affects: 146) (dups: 70) (heat: 755)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[02:31] <Sarvatt> VDPAU_TRACE=1 chromium-browser http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD0A2plMSVA
[02:33] <Sarvatt> (with flash 10.2 beta on i386 of course)
[02:38] <bjsnider> who uses i386 anymore?
[02:43] <Sarvatt> i care about wine and using xorg-edgers without the mess that is ia32-libs :)
[02:46] <bjsnider> well, perfect ia32-libs
[02:46] <bjsnider> don't abandon 64 bit just for that
[02:47] <Sarvatt> yeah let me just upload a 700mb package every day when I update mesa
[02:47] <bjsnider> ia32-libs is now 700 mb?
[02:48] <Sarvatt> ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu10~wineppa1.tar.gz (795.0 MiB)
[02:49] <RAOF> We should be getting multiarch Real Soon Now™
[02:49] <bjsnider> might as well just use the i386 cd image
[02:49] <Sarvatt> 64 bit kernel 32 bit userspace would be ideal but they said no to that idea at UDS
[02:50] <hyperair> Sarvatt: why so?
[02:51] <hyperair> RAOF: it was Real Soon Now™ a year ago.
[02:51] <Sarvatt> "just use 64 bit" "we've got too many kernel flavors" "We should be getting multiarch Real Soon Now™" :)
[02:51]  * hyperair sighs
[02:52] <Sarvatt> really though I think its real soon now for real this time
[02:52] <hyperair> i guess
[02:52] <hyperair> Sarvatt: at the dpkg level?
[02:52] <hyperair> afaik it needed some FHS transitioning to be done.
[02:53] <RAOF> My understanding is that Linaro wants it, and has someone doing it.
[02:54] <hyperair> RAOF: multiarch, or the 64-bit kernel and 32-bit userspace
[02:54] <Sarvatt> I heard people bugging slangasek about it at a bunch of sessions :)
[02:54] <RAOF> Multiarch.
[02:54] <hyperair> cool
[02:54] <RAOF> I guess at least in part because there's a bunch of ARM architectures which reasonably exist in parallel.
[02:55] <hyperair> hm
[02:59] <Sarvatt> it was mostly NAKed because you can do 64 bit kernel 32 bit userspace now anyway if you do it manually and supporting it would be a nightmare with all the little problems it causes :)
[03:01] <Sarvatt> last I checked blobs wouldn't work so haven't tried it yet
[07:42] <Sarvatt> RAOF: the do nothing approach is probably the best, I dont think option 2 will even be possible with fbcon built into the kernel? plus nvidia is installable with persistant storage and booting off of usb to test isn't that tall an order.. that being said I'd love to see nouveau on there by default even if just to see the impact while it's early in the cycle and easily backed out if it truly is bad off which would be opposite to my experiences wit
[07:42] <Sarvatt> h it
[07:43] <Sarvatt> we need a ddx update
[07:43] <RAOF> Yeah.
[07:43] <RAOF> I was going to get to that after getting mesa master to not segfault when alt-tabbing in compiz.
[07:45] <Sarvatt> will get edgers updated to natty's mesa packaging this week
[07:53] <bryceh> RAOF, uh oh looks like the last minute code for 1.10 is knocking on the door
[07:54] <Sarvatt> hopefully xinput 2.1 that we wanted to do 1.10 for in the first place makes it :)
[07:54] <RAOF> Ah.  That's an impressive 190 unread X messages since yesterday!
[07:55] <RAOF> Many of which seem to be ‘ack, pulling these reviewed patches’, though.
[07:55] <bryceh> nope, keep reading
[07:55] <RAOF> Even if 1.10 doesn't make it in, the new input ABI has :)
[07:56] <Sarvatt> there may be an fpit release!
[07:56] <Sarvatt> it's been broken (but fixed in git) since xserver 1.7
[07:57] <bryceh> see keith's post about delaying the freeze so he can slip in per-crtc-pixmap ;-)
[07:57] <RAOF> Hah.
[07:58] <Sarvatt> was actually starting to package stuff for xorg-edgers until I saw that a few hours ago :)
[07:59] <bryceh> Sarvatt, feeling better I take it?
[08:00] <Sarvatt> yep! never eating from that chinese food restaurant again, thats for sure
[08:01] <bryceh> ugh I hate stomach flu
[08:04] <Sarvatt> it doesn't look like its all hooked up yet but the bailer plugin for compiz looks like it would help quite a bit if we did enable nouveau
[08:04] <Sarvatt> there's infrastructure there for different levels of reduced functionality if it detects problems
[08:04] <RAOF> That's also where the blacklist will live.
[08:04] <mvo> get well bryceh
[08:05] <RAOF> We're *going* to need one, and the DX guys know it.
[08:05] <bryceh> mvo, oh thanks!  However it was Sarvatt who had stomach flu, I'm actually fine
[08:05] <Sarvatt> RAOF: yeah blacklist is in there now, blacklisting a few 8xx intels
[08:05] <mvo> oh, missed that - in this case: Sarvatt: get well :)
[08:06] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Not that it needs to do that, what with us loading fbdev on them :)
[08:08] <Sarvatt> thanks mvo, i'm all better now :)
[08:08] <Sarvatt> http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/065_add_bailer_and_detection_plugins.patch
[08:08] <Sarvatt> thats the bailer patch, dont have the bzr branch link handy
[08:12] <tjaalton> RAOF: what about option (3): make it easy to install nouveau dri in the livecd. it should be pretty straightforward I think
[08:13] <tjaalton> just apt-get; logout -> respawn X
[08:14] <Sarvatt> oh even better idea!
[08:17] <Sarvatt> where to hook that in would be the question
[08:18] <tjaalton> yep
[08:19] <tjaalton> is jockey on the livecd?
[08:19] <Sarvatt> jockey maybe? where it offers restricted drivers it could offer unsupported ones too?
[08:19] <tjaalton> right
[08:26] <Sarvatt> might not even need the logout if it can be made to just start compiz with the unity plugin after installing it
[10:01] <ara> hello all
[10:01] <ara> in alpha 1 testing I am seeing a weird error with my mini9
[10:01] <ara>  the live session works correctly (X session shows), but when I install
[10:01] <ara>  the X session starts (I can hear the gdm bang sound), but the screen is completely black
[10:01] <ara>  any ideas?
[10:01] <ara>  I tried to kill X or going to another ttx to check the logs, but I couldn't
[10:35] <mvo> does the live session has unity/compiz ? it smeels like unity and or compiz kill it via their opengl requirements
[10:37] <ara> mvo, yes, the live session does have unity/compiz
[16:30] <Sarvatt> go figure, waited about 24 hours of using nvidia 260.19.26 to see if it was stable before uploading it to the PPA and now it's completely busted after I upload it :)
[16:31] <bjsnider> works fine here
[16:32] <bjsnider> why did they release it with no changelog?
[16:33] <Sarvatt> ok I take back the completely busted thing, just glxgears having the problem so not really  a big deal. [89457.337477] NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 8, Channel 00000001 and a 30 second or so hang every time I run it
[16:35] <Sarvatt> they didn't really release it yet, someone just asked for a beta update and they  haven't announced it because they forgot the changelog
[16:36] <bjsnider> glxgears works here
[16:58] <apw> bryceh, who knows anything about intel register dumps ?
[18:28] <bryceh> apw, anholt, jbarnes sometimes
[18:29] <apw> bryceh, so i have a box in my hand which shows the goes black failure mode when grub hands off the video in graphics mode
[18:55] <bryceh> apw, pipe underrun just means that it noticed not enough graphics data came through
[18:55] <bryceh> apw, which is kind of a silly error - of course no data is coming through, the GPU locked up
[18:56] <apw> bryceh, i am not showing a gpu lockup
[18:56] <apw> bryceh, i suspect we are reprogramming the graphics while it is runnning, and don't do it right, leading to the underrun
[18:56] <bryceh> apw, ah
[18:57] <apw> bryceh, but i am unsure if the underrun is an end of the world event or just 'not very handy'
[18:57] <bryceh> apw, yeah dunno