[00:00] <warasab> hi, what do i type in terminal to set language to italian? (language packages are already installed)
[00:00] <warasab> language/locale
[00:02] <warasab> hi, what do i type in terminal to set language to italian? (language was correct before, dont know why it changed)
[00:03] <seanz> IncrediblePony: So you get this error as soon as you boot from USB?
[00:03] <seanz> The installer can't even start?
[00:03] <IncrediblePony> nope
[00:03] <IncrediblePony> no UI or anything, just a boot:_ console
[00:03] <warasab> anybody?
[00:03] <seanz> IncrediblePony: Dang. We need to find someone who is knowledgeable about that part of the installation process.
[00:04] <zykotick9> warasab: you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" <warning untested/unknown>
[00:04] <alisultanvi> how to update a specific version of ubuntu?
[00:04] <seanz> warasab: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/red-hat-31/changing-default-language-from-command-line-438947/
[00:04] <warasab> thanks
[00:04] <seanz> warasab: setlocale looks like it might help in this case.
[00:04] <zykotick9> seanz: i doubt red-hat info will apply to ubuntu... just sayin'.  warasab
[00:04] <IncrediblePony> seanz: well I'm trying a different way to format my USB atm
[00:04] <IncrediblePony> lets see if it works :P
[00:05] <seanz> zykotick9: Yeah, I should vet links moreso than I just did.
[00:05] <warasab> what is keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[00:05] <alisultanvi> sudo update-manager -d , how to specify the version?
[00:05] <berryciderspider> ctrl alt t
[00:05] <seanz> warasab: This is probably a better link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[00:06] <warasab> thanks
[00:06] <alisultanvi> help my
[00:07] <seanz> IncrediblePony: How are you formatting it? From what I understand, you can create a USB installer with cp on the command line pretty easily.
[00:07] <alisultanvi> good bay
[00:07] <seanz> There are instructions "around the Internet" for such things.
[00:07] <mandla> hello.
[00:07] <mandla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6450973/
[00:07] <seanz> IncrediblePony: I would test the USB stick on a different computer if possible. See if it works.
[00:13] <kludge_> anyone have problems with redhsift?
[00:14] <zykotick9> kludge_: are you finding, it isn't doing anything? <that was my issue, when i tried it>
[00:15] <kludge_> it crashes whenever I start it
[00:15] <kludge_> just a heads up Im using xubuntu
[00:15] <zykotick9> kludge_: different issue then ;)  best of luck.
[00:15] <kludge_> haha
[00:15] <kludge_> damn, Ill check the xubuntu channel
[00:16] <DCManning> Good evening everyone
[00:17] <ghostman> hello guys i need your help please, i had an installation of ubuntu 12.04 on my computer, yesterday i decided to update to 12.10.
[00:17] <DCManning> Ghostman, go to the Ubuntu download page, they still have 12.04 LTS on the download options
[00:18] <DCManning> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[00:18] <ghostman> hello guys i need your help please, i had an installation of ubuntu 12.04 on my computer, yesterday i decided to update to 12.10. at the reboot now is asking me a login and password in a console mode, i do not understand what kind of login is exactly, a part that there is no way to have an access to a console
[00:18] <DCManning> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[00:19] <ghostman> Thank you DCManning can you please help me with my question?
[00:19] <DCManning> Ghostman, you will need to burn a copy of the 12.04 LTS ISO to a cd by going to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[00:19] <DCManning> the installer will talk you through the process
[00:19] <ghostman> so you mean to reinstall again?
[00:20] <DCManning> Unfortunately that is what I had to do when i tried that on my other Linux PC
[00:20] <ghostman> but used to be already installed and working (with data also)
[00:20] <DCManning> Is this for a laptop or for a phone?
[00:20] <ghostman> is a desktop
[00:21] <DCManning> if you are jumping from one OS to another, unfortunately, it means sometimes you have to lose your old files
[00:21] <ghostman> well, i'm not jumping, i just updated!
[00:21] <DCManning> I am not sure if there is another way, I can try to find someone for you who is a bit more knowledgeable than I am
[00:22] <ghostman> thank you anyway, i will keep posting the initial question, thank you
[00:24] <ghostman> hello guys i need your help please, i had an installation of ubuntu 12.04 on my computer, yesterday i decided to update to 12.10. at the reboot now is asking me a login and password in a console mode, i do not understand what kind of login is exactly (or related to), a part that there is no way to have an access to a console, what i should do?
[00:26] <Daemoen> lo all.  we have (unfortunately) several 11.04 (ok, alot actually) instances... im attempting to install postgresql v9.  Postgres provides debs and a repository, but unfortunately, natty is no longer supported (yeah, im aware).  In this case, would it be better to assume using the lucid packages, or the precise packages to install postgres 9 on natty ?
[00:28] <MaxHayman> hey
[00:28] <mcc> hi, so??i've got a ubuntu 12.04 machine (VM) here??i would like it to be running "whatever's newest" (13.10")? am i reading this right that really, the way to do this is have update-manager upgrade me 12.04->12.10,12.10->13.04,13.04->13.10? Three updates in a row?
[00:28] <zykotick9> !11.04 | Daemoen it isn't supported in #ubuntu either
[00:29] <mcc> When I first opened update manager it was offering to let me upgrade to 14.04, which sounds??wrong D:
[00:29] <Daemoen> zykotick9, ubottu:  im not asking you guys to support it
[00:29] <mcc> but then i hit "check" and it took away that option.
[00:29] <ment0s> hello
[00:29] <MaxHayman> Hey I'm writing a shell script. I was wondering if anyone knew where to get some dummy maillog files to test my script it working!
[00:29] <Daemoen> im asking which version 11.04 would be closer to,  id wager 10.04, as 11.04 should be able to satisfy any version dep that 10.04 could have, but not necessarily the case with 12, as that could have newer kernel and package versions
[00:30] <Daemoen> due to dependency, id wager that i should in theory be able to use 10.04 packages just fine on 11.04, but as I am not an Ubuntu engineer by trade, wanted to simply confirm the theory.
[00:30] <ment0s> i have installed xorg related deb package which offers new version of xorg, but i have accidently kept the old version, now this message is not appearing when trying to install it again, could someone tell me how to bring it back ?
[00:32] <ment0s> or how to show eula of that package again ?
[00:33] <Spyro> Anyone know of a decent desktop zooming accessibility program?
[00:33] <Spyro> My eyesight's starting to go bad
[00:36] <berryciderspider> I can't transfer an iso from android to ubuntu 'not supported'
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, What ubuntu release, I have had transfer problems at times, not an iso, generally media but found mount remount worked...etc.
[00:41] <berryciderspider> wilee-nilee:  on 12.04
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, Can you plug a usb flash into the android?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, Is the android even showing in ubuntu, and how are you trying to transfer?
[00:43] <berryciderspider> when I plug phone into comp, it shows with purple header 'is digital audio devic', wants to open with rhythmbox
[00:43] <berryciderspider> I can move photos, mp3s across, but not this iso
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, In 12.04 I used a ppa to get mtp and show the android files.
[00:43] <berryciderspider> mtp?
[00:44] <berryciderspider> the issue is I don't have access to the internet on my desktop, and tethering isn't working
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, mtp is Media Transfer Protocol look it up if needed.
[00:46] <Tavor> Anyone having trouble running Skype on Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, My reference to mtp was just for being seen at all in 12.04, which you seem to have.
[00:47] <berryciderspider> ah right
[00:47] <reisio> Tavor: you?
[00:49] <Tavor> I am having issue with it, yes. It has been working just fine until today. Now it just loads and loads, never getting past that point
[00:49] <reisio> Tavor: what version?
[00:49] <Tavor> reisio, 4.2
[00:50] <reisio> Tavor: can you be more specific?
[00:51] <Tavor> reisio: I launch the Skype application, and then the usual window pops up showing that it's trying to connect, but it's stuck doing that
[00:52] <reisio> you said that already
[00:52] <Tavor> http://imgur.com/DrTvkda
[00:52] <Tavor> That's what I see^
[00:52] <reisio> and this is an image of what you already described, twice
[00:52] <reisio> can you be more specific about the version?
[00:53] <moppy> i am going to guess it's skype 4.2 for linux
[00:53] <reisio> oh yeah?
[00:53] <reisio> let's guess the solution, then
[00:54] <reisio> press CTRL+M+A+G+I+C :p
[00:54] <reisio> that'll probably work
[00:54] <Tavor> This specific? http://imgur.com/vkrb5y3
[00:55] <Boneheads1999> Could someone please help me?  I have Ubuntu 12.04.  I want the Unity interface but don't have it... where do I download it or get it?
[00:55] <moppy> Boneheads1999, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[00:55] <reisio> Tavor: yes, <IP_ADDRESS> is more specific than 4.2
[00:56] <moppy> Boneheads1999, I assume this is a headless machine?
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, What did you install to start with?
[00:56] <reisio> Tavor: run ls -a ~/ | grep -i skype
[00:56] <reisio> Tavor: or ls ~/.config | grep -i skype
[00:56] <Boneheads1999> wilee-nilee I bought this HP Pavillion a610e pre-installed with Ubuntu at a Thrift Shop.
[00:56] <Boneheads1999> moppy I have no idea what a headless machine is
[00:56] <reisio> Tavor: try temporarily moving what you find, to see if its presence is part of the problem
[00:57] <moppy> Boneheads1999, does it boot to a desktop, or a command line terminal?
[00:57] <Boneheads1999> boots to a desktop
[00:57] <Boneheads1999> moppy boots to a desktop
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Was this thrift shop a computer shop where this was installed for users?
[00:58] <Boneheads1999> no
[00:58] <moppy> Boneheads1999, if it's standard ubuntu that will be unity. can you screen shot the desktop so we can see which it is? (or you mght be able to change it on the login screen by clicking the icon at the right of the login name)
[00:58] <Boneheads1999> moppy sure one sec
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, So somebody else's install for their use that you don;t know?
[00:58] <Boneheads1999> wilee-nilee yeah :P
[00:59] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: ;) i like where your going with the above idea.
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, I would ren=move it and install your own,.
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> remove*
[00:59] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: +1
[00:59] <moppy> it's a good idea, so long as the machine works
[00:59] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: yeah kinda agree with others here though it might be worth just playing with it as is first for the heck of it
[00:59] <moppy> there's usualyl a reason a computer winds up in a thrift shop though
[00:59]  * zykotick9 wonders how Boneheads1999 got the password...
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> autologin and free rootkits
[01:00] <Boneheads1999> zykotick9 I had to do like a root access type-deal
[01:00] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: lol
[01:00] <Boneheads1999> it was fairly difficult
[01:00] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: a headless machine is just when a OS has no desktop interface installed
[01:01] <Boneheads1999> one second.. I'm attempting to upload a desktop screenshot
[01:01] <zykotick9> wafflejock: technically, a headless machine is one without a monitor
[01:01] <Boneheads1999> moppy Here's a screenshot of my desktop: http://imgur.com/3WHctxM
[01:02] <fishduck> got a tar.tz and I have no idea how to install the software. Any general guidelines? Can't find any instructions
[01:02] <fishduck> oh.. there was a setup script
[01:02] <zykotick9> fishduck: don't...
[01:03] <fishduck> zykotick9: there is no general way to install stuff like that I presume?
[01:03] <moppy> Boneheads1999, yea that isnt unity ... :-) could reinstall ... otherwise "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" then reboot and select unity on the login screen
[01:03] <wafflejock> zykotick9: fair enough
[01:03] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | fishduck
[01:03] <Boneheads1999> ok
[01:04] <moppy> btw guys which DE is that? I don't recognise it immediately
[01:04] <fishduck> ubottu: I'll remember that. I've got a gui installer now though. But where do you chose to install software in general? it gives no suggestions
[01:04] <zykotick9> moppy: nor do i.  (but that isn't surprising)
[01:05] <fishduck> darn.. second time ubo'ttu fools me
[01:06] <wafflejock> moppy: yeah feel like it could be XFCE but the panel makes me feel like no... not sure
[01:07] <BuntuFuntu> Moppy: If we are referring to Boneheads1999's image, that looks like XFCE to me but like wafflejock said, the panel dont seem right.
[01:07] <moppy> this could be a new quiz show
[01:07] <geekmasterflash> moppy: Hey, I am not sure if you remember me from earlier, but have you ever heard of an xorg error that could totally freeze a system?
[01:07] <zykotick9> moppy: Name That DE/WM ;)
[01:08] <moppy> they click a few buttons in the theme manager then "name that DE" for prizes. The more non-standard they make it, the more money you win
[01:08] <BuntuFuntu> I prefer Unity myself.
[01:08] <geekmasterflash> BuntuFuntu: I prefer rabid badgers
[01:10] <zykotick9> moppy: "I'll take awesome for $1000 alex"
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> "what is badware" alex
[01:14] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: :p (but i do find it funny)
[01:14] <wafflejock> KDE
[01:14] <wafflejock> mmm
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I would not even use a OS a friend built. ;)
[01:15] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: nor i
[01:16] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: s/use/trust/
[01:23] <coop999> hello.   fresh re-install of 13.10 after upgrade went bad.   Now Cheese will not work.  Webcam works with skype.   Any ideas?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> coop999, Just the cheese install no other messing around and does not work? Whay the re-install as well?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> Why*
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> ah bad upgrade I see now
[01:33] <neverwearcondoms> why are niggers dark brown?
[01:33] <lolcat> Hello
[01:34] <lolcat> Can I hibernate if my swap if half the size of my ram? If I am using less than half?
[01:34] <coop999> re-install necessary because my nividia drivers got so messed up it was unrepairable.  SYstem 76 team recommended re-install from LiveUSB.   So my home directory was saved (thankfully),  and reinstall went smooth.   No rebuilding and tweaking.  Had to reinstall all my packages.  (6 months of tweak down drain).  Two goofy issues found so far.   Cheese starts shows my face.  but won't snap picture and hangs when try to do video.   AND #2.
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> lolcat, equal swap to ram or slightly larger is the norm.
[01:34] <coop999> Sorry @ wilee-nilee
[01:35] <fishduck> !checkinstall
[01:35] <lolcat> wilee-nilee: I don't want to waste 16GB of my SSD, I never use more than 2gb ram
[01:35] <lolcat> wilee-nilee: With caching I am using 6GB of ram
[01:35] <lolcat> I am not using any swap
[01:36] <lolcat> I have never experienced using more than 16MB of ram
[01:36] <lolcat> err, swap
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> lolcat, I can only give you what the norm is, this would be for another who knows more really, had you given this extra info up front we would not be communicating. ;)
[01:37] <zykotick9> lolcat: i discovered, after making an error with my swap size, that "yes" it is possible - BUT it typically doesn't work.  until i made swap equal to ram, i couldn't reliably hibernate.
[01:37] <irctc481> hello guys i need your help, i updated from 12.04 to 12.10 and at the reboot it ask me to login with a console terminal. I can not understand what kind of login it is, can you help me?
[01:37] <IncrediblePony> ffs... my efforts to install ubuntu seem to fail.. my entire win7 OS just crashed and burned because of it :( - well... reformatting my entire hdd
[01:38] <neverwearcondoms> why did an african invent ubuntu and why isn't he a nigger?
[01:38] <coop999> irctc481    do CRTL ALT F1  to bring up terminal
[01:39] <irctc481> is already in terminal, not even the graphics appear
[01:39] <irctc481> coop999 is already in terminal, not even the graphics appear
[01:39] <wafflejock> irctc481: you need to use your regular username and password to login
[01:39] <coop999> start the lightdm (look for this on google)
[01:39] <wafflejock> after you login you can try to do this
[01:39] <wafflejock> sudo service lightdm restart
[01:40] <irctc481> coop999 i can not because is not a shell, is just login with a cursor
[01:40] <wafflejock> if the graphics are able to startup properly you'll get a nomral graphical login if not you have to investigate what is wrong with your xorg.conf basically
[01:41] <irctc481> ok, wafflejock, you told me before that is just a normal login and password.
[01:41] <coop999> if just login with cursor then try to login  username and then password and then try the sudo command for lightdm noted previously
[01:41] <wafflejock> irctc481: yeah it's just asking for any user/password combo that is stored on the system or can be authenticated with PAM
[01:41] <irctc481> the strange thing it is that i do not know the username, because i use to click on the user and type the password.
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> irctc481, Do you happen to have a graphic card that needs drivers?
[01:42] <irctc481> is the username the same of the permission?
[01:42] <wafflejock> irctc481: you'll need to remember the username
[01:42] <wafflejock> irctc481: there's no harm in guessing really
[01:43] <wafflejock> irctc481: mine is just my first name believe this is default
[01:44] <irctc481> how i can retrieve the username?
[01:44] <irctc481> i'm loading in recovery mode now
[01:44] <fishduck> just installed something that I have no idea where the installed stuff went. Searching trough whole / after its files.. finds it nowhere :P. How do I find the stuff it installed?
[01:45] <wafflejock> fishduck: how did you install?
[01:45] <wafflejock> fishduck: using apt-get?
[01:45] <coop999> hello.   fresh re-install of 13.10 after upgrade went bad.   Now Cheese will display my face, but will not snap photo and hangs when press video record.  Webcam does work with skype.    Nothing pops doing google search on Cheese that is recent in terms of errors.   Cheese worked fine in 13.04 on this machine.
[01:45] <wafflejock> fishduck: if so you can use dpkg -L packagename
[01:45] <fishduck> wafflejock: checkinstall and some weird package
[01:46] <fishduck> wafflejock: thanks. it says /. .. what does that mean?
[01:46] <wafflejock> fishduck: if you installed from a .sh or the like you'll need to look into the file to see what it does or read the docs where you got the installer or us inotifywatch to see what's going on
[01:46] <tomtheman5> hi everyone... normally not this desperate, but I've spent two days trying to get any version of ubuntu running on a ThinkPad T430.
[01:46] <tomtheman5> Need to be able to use two external (non-laptop) monitors when it's docked, and to use the laptop monitor when it's not docked.
[01:47] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: getting CRTC -5 error?
[01:47] <tomtheman5> I'm getting black screens, purple screens, really long mouse trails, super low resolutions... I've tried everything :(
[01:47] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: ah I ask cause on Kubuntu here and get that error if I have 3 monitors hooked up
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> tomtheman5, Have you checked the web on the dock being linux friendly?
[01:48] <tomtheman5> wafflejock: No, I don't think so... Never seen that before. Should I check logs?
[01:48] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: I have to disable the LCD before hooking up the other two
[01:48] <wafflejock> it would have been obvious no need to search logs
[01:49] <tomtheman5> wilee-nilee: I've read through around 30-40 different pages... I'm running out of help links :P
[01:49] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: or at least no need to search for that in particular then... but sounds like graphics drivers issues
[01:50] <tomtheman5> wafflejock: That's what confuses me... I've got a T410 with 12.04 32-bit that does exactly what I want... It switches every time I dock
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> tomtheman5, I would make sure the monitors can be run independently of the dock and what is needed to have them do so.
[01:50] <irctc481> wafflejock i'm loading in recovery mode now and at the menu i selected root shell prompt
[01:50] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: still could easily be very different GPUs
[01:50] <tomtheman5> dunno what a GPU is... hang on...looking it up
[01:51] <wafflejock> Easy: you can type: ls -al /home/
[01:51] <tomtheman5> ah
[01:51] <wafflejock> oh just graphics processor
[01:51] <wafflejock> or graphics chipset
[01:52] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: you can use lcpci to see the details
[01:52] <tomtheman5> ugh I'm really at a loss... company is offering me a mac instead, but I *really* want ubuntu to work lol
[01:52] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: you can put ubuntu on the Mac :)
[01:52] <wafflejock> but I would fight it :)
[01:52] <tomtheman5> I just hate how light they are hahaha... I feel like I'd crush it :P
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> tomtheman5, I have never used apple but would take a free mac that plugs and plays.
[01:53] <wafflejock> I wouldn't I really do dislike them that much :0
[01:53] <tomtheman5> Do you know of any good resources that explain this stuff to a newbie? graphics, drivers, and how to manage them on linux?
[01:54] <gvo> tomtheman5: It's a moving target, unfortunately
[01:54] <tomtheman5> like I said, I've been searching around since yesterday... but everything I find is really obtuse (to me, anyway)
[01:54] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: unfortunatley no I don't it's a bit of black magic as far as I'm concerned... I have a System76 which has been largely fine Intel HD 4000 graphics, but still quirks as I mentioned
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> Just for the experience and extra knowledge to help apple users
[01:55] <wafflejock> luckily nothing I can't easily get around in my case but not sure where exactly to point you
[01:55] <daftykins> tomtheman5: did anyone point out the ubuntu manual to you?
[01:55] <maujhsn> gvo Good to see you in the house!
[01:56] <gvo> maujhsn: Hi always somewhere.
[01:56] <maujhsn> Ok!
[01:56] <wafflejock> eh I used one for a bit cause was working on a project for schools where lots of Macs are out there but no reason for another machine and so the hackintosh was born
[01:56] <fishduck> what's /opt/ ??
[01:56] <tomtheman5> daftykins: no... downloading it now, thanks
[01:56] <wafflejock> fishduck: usually for optional software packages... third party stuff
[01:57] <chicognu> i try to lock google chrome to laucher, but it refuses to be locked ... when i log out and login again it is not more in the laucher .... what can i o
[01:57] <wafflejock> fishduck: IBM Websphere installs there, Sublime Text I believe is suggested to be installed there, other stuff
[01:57] <Smilex> I was told by #winehq to install libgl-mesa-dri:i386, to fix an issue with wine running with the software renderer, but when I try running 'sudo apt-get install libgl-mesa-dri:i386', it says that it is already installed. Am I running the correct command to install 32bit libs on a 64bit system?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, Desktop?
[01:57] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, if my ubuntu is desktop version ? yes ...
[01:57] <fishduck> wafflejock: so it's a program folder, perhaps?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, Unity?
[01:58] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, yes
[01:58] <wafflejock> fishduck: yeah it's basically a folder for some third party programs, most stuff from the repos just ends up in /usr/bin with config in /etc
[01:58] <wafflejock> and logs in /var/log
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, You are using keep on panel when open?
[01:58] <maujhsn> gvo Does freenode have a number two rival in the "irc" education world?
[01:58] <VanessaE> can someone help me figure out a slowness issue with nfs4 mounts?
[01:58] <wafflejock> fishduck: but occasionally something goes into /opt/ not sure the exact history of it
[01:59] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, where is that option ? i don't know what is that about
[01:59] <wafflejock> maujhsn: I think effnet
[01:59] <piousminion> Hi, I'm trying to install teamspeak. I can't find it with apt-cache or software center, but this exists. Ideas? http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/teamspeak-client
[01:59] <tomtheman5> I keep seeing things telling me to go to the "Additional Drivers" tab of Software and Updates... Any ideas why that tab shows me no actual drivers?
[01:59] <zykotick9> maujhsn: actually freenode might be #2 behind OFTC
[01:59] <gvo> maujhsn: I don't know.
[01:59] <maujhsn> Ok!
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, open chrome right click the icon in panel.
[01:59] <wafflejock> piousminion: lsb_release -a
[02:00] <piousminion> wafflejock: Ubuntu 13.10 saucy
[02:00] <chicognu> there is a option "lock to luncher" wilee-nilee
[02:00] <chicognu> is that what im using
[02:00] <maujhsn> zykotick9 OFTC education based as well?
[02:00] <wafflejock> piousminion: are you on x64?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, That is? from a right click with chrome open?
[02:00] <wafflejock> piousminion: package says it's i386 think you need to suffix that on the package like, teamspeak-client:i386
[02:01] <piousminion> wafflejock: I am. hmm. Do I need to enable multilib somehow?
[02:01] <wafflejock> piousminion: not sure though just guessing here
[02:01] <zykotick9> maujhsn: dpkg's oftc factoid - OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service.  They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net.  You may be connected to OFTC's network.  http://www.oftc.net/  See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>.
[02:01] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, there is the title of the windown, the option to lock it and quit
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, we are not communicating.
[02:02] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, can we try again ?
[02:02] <maujhsn> zykotick9 Thanks for the food for thought!
[02:03] <zykotick9> maujhsn: fyi, my local LUG and debian both use OFTC over freenode
[02:03] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, the panel you said is the vertical bar in the left, right ?
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, open chrome, in the left panel right click the chrome icon and click add to panel.
[02:03] <wafflejock> think it's lock to panel no? haven't been in unity in a sec
[02:04] <wafflejock> chicognu: it's generally referred to as the launcher I believe in Unity, typically any bar with stuff in it within Linux has been called a panel though
[02:04] <fishduck> can you stop FF from installing from ubuntus repository and get the updates directly from mozilla instead?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> no confirmation in straight english that is even happening
[02:04] <zykotick9> fishduck: bad idea...
[02:04] <fishduck> zykotick9: why?
[02:05] <wafflejock> fishduck: untested
[02:05] <zykotick9> wafflejock: +1
[02:05] <wafflejock> fishduck: unless you fancy yourself a guinea pig
[02:05] <chicognu> wafflejock, well here is lock to laucher
[02:05] <nicor> hi everyone
[02:05] <fishduck> can I prevent ff from installing the weirdware from ubuntu then? I see a lot of weird plugins such as "onlineaccount-something" (I'm pretty sure.. like 100% that I don't need it and most likely don't want it)
[02:05] <chicognu> but it don't really lock
[02:06] <wafflejock> chicognu: yeah not sure... for some reason in KDE I had to make my own .desktop file then use that to add it a panel
[02:06] <nicor> can someone tell me the sizes of the partitions that is recomended for ubuntu?
[02:06] <VanessaE> nevermind.  figured it out.  gssd wasn't running.
[02:06] <zykotick9> fishduck: now, THAT point makes an argument for using mozilla's version... best of luck.
[02:06] <wafflejock> chicognu: no problems with any other icon but the chrome one was fighting with me for some reason
[02:06] <nicor> i read that i should have 3 partitions for a 320gb hard drive
[02:06] <geekmasterflash> nicor: Depends on your storage space, and how much memory
[02:07] <nicor> i see
[02:07] <geekmasterflash> nicor: If you have low memory, you'll want some swap space
[02:07] <fishduck> zykotick9: sarcasm? :P
[02:07] <nicor> 320gb 2gb ram
[02:07] <zykotick9> fishduck: NO!
[02:07] <chicognu> wafflejock, lol, same here ... xchat is just fine ... anything is just fine .... but chrome ....
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> fishduck, some plugins are installed already, notice the dropdown on the left of each one.
[02:07] <geekmasterflash> nicor: 2 is a bit low, so you'll probably want to partition 512 to 1 GB of swap
[02:07] <zykotick9> fishduck: "I" wouldn't trust ubuntu's firefox...
[02:07] <nicor> ok thans
[02:07] <wafflejock> fishduck: I'm a chromium user personally like the stripped down and chrome developer tools
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> er right fishduck
[02:08] <rosco_y> Does anyone know if I can use the intuos wacom digipad with 13.10?
[02:08] <nicor> and the other 2 parts?
[02:08] <fishduck> zykotick9: press ctrl+shift+a in FF and check the plugins and addons.. you'll find a lot of weird stuff, at least in the latest ubuntu versions
[02:08] <geekmasterflash> nicor: There is no real point to partitioning /home seperately on the same disk, as it tends to cause headaches you can easily avoid
[02:08] <nicor> ist ok 50 gb for the OS
[02:08] <zykotick9> fishduck: i don't use ubuntu (or firefox - i use iceweasel)
[02:08] <nicor> oo
[02:08] <nicor> oo
[02:08] <nicor> i see
[02:08] <FloodBot1> nicor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:08] <geekmasterflash> nicor: If you have multiple disks, then you might want to partition one as /home
[02:08] <nicor> so i can have to parts
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> nicor, Can you explain 3 partitions and what they are?
[02:09] <geekmasterflash> nicor: Generally, if you partition / and /swap you'll be set on most installs
[02:09] <chicognu> geekmasterflash,  well i really like use other partition to home .... i don't need to backup anything when reinstalling the system
[02:09] <nicor> heekmasterflash: thanks
[02:09] <nicor> i think that is what im going to do
[02:09] <nicor> and i put 2gb of swap
[02:09] <nicor> just in case
[02:09] <geekmasterflash> nicor: That is definately overkill
[02:09] <zykotick9> fishduck: keep in mind - i'm a TROLL.  your words, not mine :P
[02:10] <chicognu> i use here /boot /system /swap /home .... there is a reason for swap be between system and home :)
[02:11] <chicognu> the most accessed files during the use of system are in /system and /home ... so the swap between they will increase a little bit the performace nicor
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> boot partition is not needed in a msdos setup
[02:11] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: if you use encrypted file systems it might be!
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, That may be, but I will not comment on those that encrypt.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:13] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: i don't use encrypted FSs either ;)
[02:13] <nicor> chicognu: i see, so what yo recomend?
[02:13] <chicognu> my /boot partition, in fact, are in my pendrive ... and a carry it to every single place i go. the hd on notebook are fully encrypted :)
[02:13] <BuntuFuntu> Fully encrypted HDD here too.
[02:13] <BuntuFuntu> And no, I'm not hiding anything.
[02:13] <nicor> i think that to advanced for me at this point, but ill ihave it on mind
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> of course you are
[02:14] <BuntuFuntu> Nope. Nothing hidden.
[02:14] <nicor> wilee-nilee: im not an expert actually im really rookie with this but i read that there is 3 partition types for a hard drive, the primary one, the secondary one and the swap one..
[02:15] <nicor> wilee-nilee the primary ande secondary one are for the file systems end the swap one is for the ram memory to put there some secondary task or something
[02:15] <nicor> wilee-nilee: is that ok?
[02:15] <piousminion> Does anyone here use teamspeak on 64-bit saucy?  Everything online says the package should exist, but it doesn't.
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> nicor, primary I will assume is root and secondary is home, works for some who want to upgrade and keep home.
[02:15] <chicognu> nicor, i don't have know how to recommend anything lol .... what i uses is /boot 256mb /system with 30gb (a lot are freespace, but i never now when I will need to install some thing big) swap with 512 mb or 1gb, and the everything else as home
 And no, I'm not hiding anything.
[02:16] <chicognu> well i hide porn from my mom ... normal porn ... but of course i don't wanna my mom to see it
[02:16] <chicognu> lol
[02:16] <BuntuFuntu> What?  My Ubuntu is mostly default. Except for a Skype Package installed.
[02:17] <nicor> and the other one for everything else
[02:18] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: why the encryption then?
[02:18] <nicor> i apreciate the advices
[02:18] <geekmasterflash> nicor: Just keep in mind that if you format / and swap only, it will be easy but recovery could be harder
[02:18] <nicor> i see
[02:18] <BuntuFuntu> Wafflejock: Idk. I guess to make it harder incase my laptop was stolen.
[02:18] <nicor> i ll have it on mind
[02:18] <BuntuFuntu> :P
[02:18] <nicor> but just for future references
[02:19] <geekmasterflash> nicor: I get around that by having a usb hard drive for backup purposes.
[02:19] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: yeah but if nothing sensitive on it you're okay anyho
[02:19] <wafflejock> anyhow*
[02:19] <nicor> how much the root part should have?
[02:19] <geekmasterflash> nicor: But some people kile to go nuts
[02:19] <geekmasterflash> like*
[02:19] <nicor> hahahha
[02:20] <BuntuFuntu> Did anyone hear that Adobe Photoshop's source code was released by some group that managed to steal it? o.O
[02:20] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: no but that's great news
[02:20] <zykotick9> BuntuFuntu: NOT ubuntu related!
[02:20] <chicognu> wafflejock, in my case i full encrypt the hdd and walks with a pendrive with the boot encrypted because im really paranoic ...  i belive some one can change my hdd contents when I'm out of home or some thing else ... and with the hd fully encrypted I believe it is not possible to put a keylogger or anything else
[02:20] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: I mean not the stealing part
[02:20] <nicor> i mean how much is the minimun amount that the root need to work properly
[02:21] <zykotick9> nicor: 5GB (but that'll break if you try to upgrade)
[02:21] <chicognu> with the boot "decrypted"*
[02:21] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: but photoshop on ubuntu without VM sure would be nice, which Adobe would just work something out instead though
[02:21] <BuntuFuntu> wafflejock: Aha yes but back on topic. do you think Arma would play on Ubuntu with wine and playonlinux?
[02:21] <zykotick9> !requirements | nicor
[02:21] <wafflejock> wish*
[02:22] <nicor> ok
[02:22] <nicor> got it
[02:22] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: not sure about that haven't done a lot gaming in wine just Steam
[02:22] <nicor> im going to read about it
[02:22] <nicor> thanks again!
[02:22] <nicor> good bye people!
[02:22] <BuntuFuntu> Wafflejock: It won't hurt for me to try though :P
[02:22] <geekmasterflash> nicor: I generally let /root be part of /, since that means it can be expanded when I update
[02:22] <wafflejock> chicognu: that is extra paranoid why not protect the house?
[02:22] <chicognu> wafflejock, protect the data is free
[02:22] <chicognu> :)
[02:23] <zykotick9> geekmasterflash: ahhh /root should be close to empty on ubuntu...
[02:23] <wafflejock> chicognu: true I suppose, I just don't have data per se that I'm worried about protecting... use keepass for passwords and the like, just about everything else is online
[02:24] <wafflejock> and i just don't think people on the west side of chicago are savvy to the point they're going to come in here install a keylogger and leave everything untouched
[02:24] <chicognu> wafflejock, not to mention that I have an extra pendrive (that only have /home encrypted for no reason) with ubuntu 12.04LTS only to use internet banking and home broker system. (I don't need to say that I also walk to every where with that pendrive)
[02:24] <wafflejock> more likely they will take all the electronics and pawn them where they'll be wiped
[02:25] <grumpybynight> Hi all
[02:25] <grumpybynight> I've installed Ubuntu successfully, dual booting with Windows 8.1
[02:26] <chicognu> wafflejock, that is true ... i really recognize that my behavior are 98% based on paranoia, not in a real possibility
[02:26] <SchrodingersScat> grumpybynight: great
[02:26] <wafflejock> chicognu: yeah I just don't want the extra trouble if I need to pull the drive and the like
[02:26] <grumpybynight> Ubuntu is running great, but Windows seems to have slowed down a LOT. Very laggy after installing Ubuntu. I'm not sure why this has happened. Any ideas?
[02:26] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: Did you install it on a UEFI drive?
[02:27] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: I had a similar problem trying to dual boot from a drive formatted for UEFI.  And I've disabled the fast startup setting.
[02:28] <SetiAmon> I mean i'm scrolling then it starts going up when scrolling hte middle wheel down etc.
[02:28] <grumpybynight> geekmasterflash: How'd you fix the problem?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, Ubuntu is a separate OS, should be no effect on windows speed.
[02:28] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: I didn't, I ended up bricking the hard drive putzing around with gparted
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, You might defragg it if you resized it.
[02:29] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: so far running win 8 in a VM it's been good had it side by side before but no issues either (8 not 8.1 though)
[02:29] <grumpybynight> wilee-nilee: I will try that. I'm not sure why it's happening, though, since Windows and Ubuntu are both on separate partitions.
[02:29] <pero> i'm trying to re/un-install unity webapps - any way to do it without removing unity?
[02:29] <guest4691> how can I write #ubuntu iso to my usb?
[02:30] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: It's unlikely, but did you have a large page file on the windows side?
[02:30] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: You might have eaten enough extra space that windows can't page right
[02:30] <tomtheman5> guest4691: are you on ubuntu right now? if so, use "startup disk creator" from the dash
[02:31] <zykotick9> guest4691: if you are on a gnu/linux distro: 1st choices = cat/cp/dd; distant 2nd choice unetbootin
[02:31] <guest4691> tomtheman5: the 'make' buttton is deactivated
[02:31] <guest4691> I'm on ubuntu
[02:31] <geekmasterflash> guest4691: Is the USB stick formatted?
[02:31] <tomtheman5> you'll need to download the ISO
[02:31] <apb1963> Using chrome on ubuntu 12.04... Trying to open what is supposed to be a graphic... instead, it's downloading the file as a .php... opening it results in gibberish....  anyone know what plugin I might need to make chrome behave properly?
[02:31] <guest4691> yeah to fat32
[02:31] <guest4691> I have the iso
[02:32] <tomtheman5> guest4691: you'll need to download and select the ISO at the top
[02:32] <grumpybynight> Before installing Ubuntu, I had C: and D: partitions. Windows was on C:. I resized my D: and installed Ubuntu in the extra space freed up.
[02:32] <guest4691> lol did that
[02:32] <geekmasterflash> guest4691: Is the ISO file located in the home folder somewhere?
[02:32] <guest4691> its in documents
[02:32] <guest4691> so yes
[02:32] <tomtheman5> and the disk is formatted?
[02:33] <guest4691> yeah to fat32
[02:34] <guest4691> isn't there a command for it? dd I think
[02:34] <SetiAmon> any scrolling issues with ubuntu recorded
[02:34] <SetiAmon> middle wheel scrolling
[02:34] <grumpybynight> Anyway, I think I'll try defragging
[02:34] <grumpybynight> brb
[02:34] <tomtheman5> beats me, sorry :(
[02:35] <guest4691> thanks anyway
[02:35] <geekmasterflash> guest4691: sudo dd if=~/path/to/iso/iso.iso of=/dev/sdx oflag=direct  bs=1048576
[02:35] <irctc084> my system get stuck at checking battery state, what i can do? please help me
[02:35] <tomtheman5> I did have some issues with the startup disk tool UI... both sections only show one entry, and you need to expand the window to see others
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> SetiAmon, State the issues to the channel if you want help.
[02:36] <zykotick9> guest4691: i'd suggest "sudo -i" then "cat /path/to/fils.iso /dev/sdX"
[02:37] <irctc084> guys can you read my messages? just to realize
[02:37] <zykotick9> irctc084: yes we see your messages
[02:38] <irctc084> zykotick9 ok, thanks, because i did not receive any clue i was thinking you can not read them
[02:38] <guest4691> thanks geekmasterflash, writing now
[02:38] <SetiAmon> The middle button,scroll wheel.when i am scrolling it will be irratic like scrolling down it will start scrolling up or jumpy etc
[02:38] <SetiAmon> that is my issue
[02:38] <irctc084> so nobody can help, me or giving me any clue?
[02:38] <SetiAmon> ubuntu 13.10
[02:38] <zykotick9> !tab | irctc084 fyi
[02:38] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Is it an optical mouse?
[02:38] <SetiAmon> yes
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, You gotta give it more than 2 min and post details.
[02:39] <SetiAmon> a wireless mouse also
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Some optical mice have a the laser termine if the wheel is moving. If dust gets in it, it can cause mayhem
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Over enginnering for the win
[02:39] <SetiAmon> wait it isn't optical if that means lazer.its just hte red light infared
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Otherwise, it might be wireless interference?
[02:40] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: thank you, i'm trying to post details but i do not now what kind of details you needed
[02:40] <SetiAmon> i didn't have a issue with windows
[02:40] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Can you boot into windows currently and not have the issue? Sometimes issues prop up between boots
[02:40] <irctc084> guys my problem is this, my system get stuck at "checking battery state" during boot what i can do?
[02:41] <SetiAmon> maybe i'll buy another wireless mouse on black friday and see if that works
[02:41] <tomtheman5> Just did a fresh install of 13.04 onto my T430... still getting the same graphics issues... Is it worth trying with 12.04?
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, when where and how on the check would be helpful probably.
[02:41] <SetiAmon> Nah the reason i've just install linux is because windows locked into a infininite startup boot loop and couldn't be fixed....lost 500gigs man
[02:42] <tomtheman5> Or is it just never going to work because the driver just doesn't exist/work? (in which case I'd downgrade to my T410, which I know works)
[02:42] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: It's unlikely, but the issue could have been something that started between then and now and unrelated to Linux
[02:42] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Do you have another computer you can test the mouse on?
[02:42] <SetiAmon> nope.
[02:42] <SetiAmon> its cool i'll just point and drag the scroll
[02:42] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: i press the power on button, the system start to load and on the list of the service start it stop at checking battery.
[02:42] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Is it bluetooth?
[02:43] <SetiAmon> if it is a linux issue i imagine it will be patched
[02:43] <supergauntlet> alright, so now nm-applet works..
[02:43] <SetiAmon> no bluetooth is turned off it has one of those usb sticks
[02:43] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: i'm not even able to exit, i'm constricted to force the shutdown
[02:43] <supergauntlet> if i run it as root.
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, During the boot yhou have the splash off you are seeing text?
[02:43] <supergauntlet> But it says it can't find networkmanager if run as a regular user
[02:44] <rosco_y> Can anyone tell me how to set the hotspots on the edges of my monitors?  (i.e., lower-right corner opens the workspace view)
[02:44] <rosco_y> I'm finding that my current settings are disruptive
[02:44] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: I assume you're talking about compiz?
[02:44] <amagee> I have an upstart job that runs a daemon that responds to commands and launches applications. I have it running as my own user (amagee). I can't seem to get it to launch graphical apps though, I get errors saying "cannot open display". Is there something, perhaps an `export DISPLAY=???` incantation that might help?
[02:45] <JordanJ2> Hello. While booting Ubuntu from USB I get stuck at a black screen that reads "SYLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al"
[02:45] <rosco_y> geekmasterflash: I admit that I really don't know what I'm talking about....
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, check the sum of the iso
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: For example, I have a hot zone on the bottom of my screen. If I click it, I can rotate to another desktop
[02:45] <JordanJ2> How?
[02:45] <rosco_y> but when I accidentally drag my mouse down to the edges of my monitor, then different functions are triggered.
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: That is a compiz setting
[02:45] <supergauntlet> JordanJ2: also if that doesnt help try a different USB drive
[02:45] <rosco_y> hot zone, that's the word I was looking for.
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: Namely, the desktop cube "Rotate" setting
[02:45] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: yes, i will try to force the power off, and i will let you know exaclty
[02:45] <JordanJ2> I do not have another.
[02:46] <rosco_y> compiz, ty--I'll try that for awhile -- thanks geekmasterflash
[02:46] <supergauntlet> wilee-nilee: do you have any ideas what might be the problem?
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, HOw many times have you forced it off now, and has it ever worked, and isgthee any history of other problems?
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> is there*
[02:46] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: If that is what you want, grab compizconfig-setting-manager
[02:47] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: Then launch ccsm from a terminal
[02:47] <rosco_y> geekmasterflash: ty--installing as we speak :)
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, Did you look through the askubuntu link I gave you?
[02:47] <supergauntlet> wilee-nilee: which one?
[02:47] <supergauntlet> the one related to the wifi card?
[02:48] <Jebus> How do I change my password for a registered Nick In Xchat
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, Yes, and wasn't it found that there was a sort of messed up upgrade as well?
[02:48] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: lots because there i no way to switch off
[02:48] <supergauntlet> yes, i went through with dist-upgrade and that seemed to fix nm-applet not working at all
[02:48] <supergauntlet> but now it will only connect to wifi if I run nm-applet as root
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, Hard shutdowns will break a OS.
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Jebus: Can depend on the IRC server you are in, but usually it's /msg nickserv set password
[02:49] <JordanJ2> wilee-nilee: The checksums match.
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Jebus: Unless you are asking how to change the password on file within Xchat's settings... in which case.... I am not sure
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, What app did you load the usb with?
[02:49] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: i'm on the grub now, you want me to do something?
[02:49] <JordanJ2> Unet bootin
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, Not that I know of.
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Is this a nvidia graphic?
[02:50] <irctc084> wilee-nilee:  ok i will just start ubuntu...
[02:50] <JordanJ2> Intel
[02:50] <Jebus> geekmasterflash thank you :)
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, and have it stop again  and then hard shutdown?
[02:51] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: no at the grub i started ubuntu then it appear the ubuntu logo that is loading and the a black screen
[02:52] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Have you nuked any xorg.conf file?
[02:52] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: i don't know nothing abuot that
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, So when is it that you are actually getting this stuck battery check? I have asked questions, if you do not understand them say so.
[02:53] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: if you are logging into a black screen, it commonly due to something wrong with the graphics / xorg. If you can reach a command line, sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:53] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: can try to reboot in verbose mode what do you think? so i can give you a bterre picture
[02:54] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Actually nevermind, I think I only caught half of that conversation
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, we are not even close to communicating and now others are reading these last posts not all and advising you, I'm done.
[02:55] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: what do you mean?
[02:56] <JordanJ2> wilee-nilee: It will boot on UEFI mode but not legacy
[02:56] <uc_> hola hare una pregunta en español
[02:56] <wafflejock> !es | uc_
[02:56] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: tecnically on boot i have the grub screen, i load ubuntu and i receive the black screen. everything started after an update from 12.04 to 12.10
[02:57] <uc_> gracias
[02:57] <uc_> jaja no hay nadie
[02:57] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Do you reach a desktop manager - as in, do you get a screen asking you to log in and then after log in get hosed, or does go black well before?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Hmm 7 posts to even mention uefi.
[02:58] <JordanJ2> ?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, That is a key point no matter what.
[02:58] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: it goes black just after the ubuntu loading splash screen.
[03:00] <MajSlayer> hey guys got a fresh dedicated server, havent used linux, logged into it via ssh, want to install Red5, any idea what package of java i should get?
[03:00] <wafflejock> !xorg | irctc084
[03:00] <wafflejock> !xorgconf | irctc084
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> MajSlayer, This is ubuntu support.
[03:01] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: yeah look for #linux or #redhat
[03:01] <MajSlayer> im using a ubuntu 13.04 server
[03:01] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: oh red 5hhaha
[03:01] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: If you are able to reach grub, try booting with "nomodeset"
[03:01] <wafflejock> sorry
[03:01] <MajSlayer> yeah didnt come with it preinstalled or anything
[03:01] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: still not sure which Java you'll need for it though honestly
[03:01] <MajSlayer> i think JRE7 is what i want, just not sure
[03:01] <rosco_y> At some point in time I stumbled on a place that let me specify when I drag my mouse in the lower right of my panel, it opens up my Workspace Switcher--does anyone know what I need to do to disable this
[03:01] <MajSlayer> yep i understand
[03:01] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: you can always try one and switch
[03:01] <rosco_y> ?
[03:02] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: When you're in the grub menu, find your ubuntu boot and press e to edit
[03:02] <MajSlayer> yep good point
[03:02] <JordanJ2> Do you know why wilee-nilee?
[03:02] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: You may find "quiet splash" appended to the boot image. Change it to nomodeset
[03:02] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Save, boot that image
[03:02] <MajSlayer> oh how do i get a desktop i can remotely use with a dedicated server? seen some software that does it..
[03:03] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: And you may then be able to install missing drivers
[03:03] <rosco_y> I want to disable all the special functions that happen when my mouse hits the edges of my panels, it's driving me nuts....
[03:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: VNC works
[03:03] <MajSlayer> thanks i'll google it
[03:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: you can use VNC through an SSH tunnel
[03:03] <MajSlayer> awesome
[03:03] <MajSlayer> ty
[03:03] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: $nomodeset?
[03:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: np
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: nomodeset
[03:04] <MajSlayer> thanks ran a isp at one time, 13 years ago. but this server has nothing installed by default
[03:04] <MajSlayer> thus the questions, got a book in the mail.lol
[03:04] <MajSlayer> the install it yourself ones i loved..
[03:04] <MajSlayer> this one is pretty much a blank slate
[03:04] <uc_> hello anyone knows a video capture usb support linux to see it in vlc as dev-1 rjemplo?
[03:05] <MajSlayer> but i guess thats a good thing in the end..
[03:05] <rosco_y> I've been rooting around in ccsm, but I can't find it there....
[03:05] <hugo_> exit
[03:05] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: So for example... linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-26-generic root=UUID=randomnumbers ro quiet splash $vt_handoff would become linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-26-generic root=UUID=randomnumbers ro nomodeset $vt_handoff
[03:05] <rosco_y> lots of stuff though, maybe I'm missing it
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> rosco_y, desktop and special functions?
[03:06] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: f10 to boot right?
[03:06] <uc_> i ned help
[03:06] <daftykins> !ask | uc_
[03:06] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: I use control-x, but I think f10 works too
[03:06] <hexacode> anyone know a way to log into linux thru a serial port?  the small monitor on my netbook is broken and plugging a monitor into the serial port seems to require additional user interaction.
[03:06] <hexacode> which i obviously cant do because i can see anything
[03:06] <wafflejock> hexacode: can't plug in a monitor to serial port
[03:06] <irctc084> valerio
[03:07] <wafflejock> hexacode: that's a vga port if it fits
[03:07] <uc_> ok
[03:07] <hexacode> wafflejock:  thats what i meant lol
[03:07] <wafflejock> hexacode: okay yeah I mean there is serial communication but I don't think anyone has that port anymroe
[03:07] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: ok, now i have a tty1 with a login , i logged in and i have a shell, but no desktop
[03:07] <carlson> q
[03:07] <Ben64> hexacode: if you boot the computer with the vga attached, it should display something
[03:08] <hexacode> i remember people logged into linux via physical console wires
[03:08] <rosco_y> wilee-nilee: ty, for example, when I put my mouse in the lower-right corner, it opens up my Workspace switcher, when I put my mouse off the right edge, it opens up a task switcher etc.
[03:08] <hexacode> Ben64: ah ya i think thats right
[03:08] <hexacode> thanks
[03:08] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Good, now you can log in with user/pass and grab some likely missing files
[03:08] <wafflejock> hexacode: yeah sometimes there is a button to toggle on laptops in the f-keys row
[03:08] <hexacode> i totally forgot that
[03:08] <rosco_y> I thought it would be clever when I did it, but I can't get used to it.
[03:08] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: What desktop enviroment do you have installed?
[03:09] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: it was the dafault one
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: IE: So unity?
[03:09] <irctc084> i think unity?
[03:09] <SchrodingersScat> rosco_y: yeah, I prefer to click and drag the top or bottom of the screen.
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: K
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: And what type of graphics card do you have?
[03:09] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: is a dell opltiplex 760, just a sec i look on internet
[03:09] <wafflejock> irctc084: if you don't know your graphics chipset check with lspci
[03:09] <rosco_y> SchrodingersScat: that sounds pretty good, but I just want to disable all the hot-zone special functionality on my monitors, so I can just sling my mouse out of the way
[03:13] <IncrediblePony> srsly...  I've lost all my files on my hdd from win7 cus ubuntu boot made it crash.... I'm getting sick of this -.-'
[03:14] <JordanJ2> Someone? ._.
[03:14] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: problem?
[03:14] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: ah boot from USB hang... have you tried with DVD?
[03:14] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: wafflejock  it should be a Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 4500;
[03:15] <BuntuFuntu> I have an Intel GMA. .-.
[03:15] <reisio> IncrediblePony: learningn to backup the hard way :)
[03:15] <JordanJ2> It will boot from UEFI fine just not legacy. wafflejock
[03:15] <reisio> IncrediblePony: what makes you think your files are gone, though
[03:15] <irctc084> lspci give me a list but i can not scroll up (font too big)
[03:15] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Okay, first order of buisness lets nuke any existing xorg.conf (likely nothing there, but you never know) do a sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:15] <JordanJ2> I do not have a CD/DVD drive
[03:16] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Then we are gonna install drivers, then reconfigure lightdm
[03:16] <wafflejock> irctc084: lspci | less
[03:17] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: can not remove not such file
[03:17] <wafflejock> irctc084: or, lcpci | grep graphics
[03:17] <wafflejock> irctc084: q to get out of less
[03:17] <Duel-Travis> can I uninstall the KDE FUll and get xfce
[03:17] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: yes
[03:17] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: K, so now you need drivers. Forgive me, I have never used intel graphics before, I need to look up where they are kept
[03:17] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: same as uninstall ubuntu desktop and install KDE
[03:17] <JordanJ2> So I have no idea wafflejock
[03:18] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, oKAY BRB
[03:18] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: sorry no ideas either except somehow getting an external drive to use or something, even so dunno
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> The ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[03:19] <irctc084> wafflejock: thank you very much
[03:19] <JordanJ2> It worked it Legacy before
[03:19] <wafflejock> irctc084: np
[03:20] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, Okay so how would I uninstall it?
[03:20] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Sorry, it will take a moment still I am working and just got a call.
[03:20] <irctc084> it sound strange that the update didn't retrieve the drivers, it use to have before!
[03:21] <reisio> IncrediblePony: nice talkin' with you
[03:21] <Duel-Travis> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu desktop full?
[03:21] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  take your time, you are doing even more that expected to help me. and i really appreciate that thank you. thank you to all of you, i'm learning a lot today
[03:21] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: would follow advice here https://wiki.sabayon.org/index.php?title=Remove_KDE
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, No, what release is this?
[03:21] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: if you're strapped for space remove it otherwise install side by side
[03:22] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: your far better off just installing XFCE and using it in place of KDE than taking KDE out and losing other stuff that depends on the same packages
[03:22] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: if you need to get the space back from KDE you can remove it but keep in mind you might be blowing away a lot of other stuff in the process
[03:22] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, like what?
[03:22] <IncrediblePony> okay, who here have had success installing ubuntu with Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com?
[03:23] <reisio> IncrediblePony: not I
[03:23] <IncrediblePony> how did you do it?
[03:23] <reisio> IncrediblePony: I'd use unetbootin, and if that didn't work I'd be careful and use dd
[03:23] <reisio> actually _I_ would do the reverse, but dd is riskier
[03:23] <IncrediblePony> dd?
[03:23] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: read the page... you will see as you go through the process it will tell you what is being removed
[03:24] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, I still have unity
[03:24] <reisio> IncrediblePony: right
[03:24] <IncrediblePony> reisio what do you refer to by dd?
[03:24] <IncrediblePony> that's not anything I'm familiar with I think
[03:25] <reisio> IncrediblePony: basically all Unix systems have a command, 'dd'
[03:25] <reisio> IncrediblePony: :)
[03:25] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: yeah as noted on the site there though removing KDE may result in removal of other packages that other DEs depend on so safer to re-install those before rebooting to be sure all packages are in good shape
[03:25] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Alright, I am back
[03:25] <Ascendion> I've got a dvd drive connected via USB and brasero/wodim are complaining that "cannot load media"
[03:25] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: any time you're doing stuff like replacing your whole desktop environment it's good to backup too
[03:25] <reisio> Ascendion: to do what with
[03:25] <IncrediblePony> reisio: well, I'm reformatting my hdd for the fith time this evening
[03:25] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  i was looking too
[03:26] <Ascendion> burning ubunto 13.10 on a 12.04 system
[03:26] <IncrediblePony> reisio: and I'm getting frustrated
[03:26] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, Why does it remove so much things?
[03:26] <geekmasterflash> irctc084:  Are you installing 13.10?
[03:26] <JordanJ2> So confused >_,
[03:26] <IncrediblePony> reisio: I'm using UUI, to install my ubuntu, but everytime there seems to be something missing or wrong with my installation
[03:26] <reisio> IncrediblePony: you said
[03:26] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: not entirely clear to me how the dependency management and such is resolved in apt-get couldn't tell you the details
[03:27] <reisio> IncrediblePony: I'd use unetbootin or dd
[03:27] <IncrediblePony> reisio: never used either
[03:27] <IncrediblePony> and atm I have no OS
[03:27] <reisio> IncrediblePony: that's hard to believe
[03:27] <irctc084> no, i upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 geekmasterflash  but i do not mind to upgrade to 13.10 at this stage
[03:28] <IncrediblePony> it's almost 5 in the morning :( - I just want ubuntu to work at this point
[03:28] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/how-to-use-intel-linux-graphics-drivers.html this site should tell you how to get the intel drivers repo added
[03:28] <wafflejock> irctc084: it's likely a good option
[03:28] <reisio> IncrediblePony: I figured
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, for the record here is a site, in playing around left column, are whole desktop meta packages lists for ubuntu. Duel-Travis
[03:29] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Actually
[03:29] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Don't add that.
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[03:29] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: There has to be a better way to get intel drivers
[03:29] <irctc084> wafflejock: geekmasterflash  do you think that i can update to 13.10 from the shell? did that fixx this issue all at once?
[03:30] <wafflejock> IncrediblePony: you should probably go to bed and try again when your fresh
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> multiple releases and desktops
[03:30] <wafflejock> irctc084: I would suggest doing a clean install if you have a backup or aren't concerned with the data
[03:30] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Yeah, wafflejock's right. At this point, updating may not help since you might keep whatever dependancy you have that's broken currently
[03:30] <Ascendion> any ideas why I cannot burn the new ubuntu iso using a dvd burner connected via usb ??
[03:31] <irctc084> wafflejock: ok, but i'm doing this in order to retrieve also the data stored in the home desktop folder wich is encrypted
[03:31] <wafflejock> Ascendion: reduce burner speed usually helps
[03:31] <wafflejock> Ascendion: not too familiar with externals though
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> Ascendion, using what app?
[03:32] <Ascendion> wafflejock -- not even getting THAT far -- using wodim off the command line it complains "cannot load media with this drive, load media by hand"
[03:32] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: I think you should be able to grab the driver via sudo apt-get install intel-linux-graphics-installer
[03:32] <Ascendion> trying brasero it just fails to load the app at all
[03:32] <Ascendion> cdrecord off command line gives similar errors
[03:32] <wafflejock> Ascendion: ah yeah not sure about wodim, always used Brasero or the like
[03:32] <reisio> Ascendion: similar?
[03:32] <Ascendion> xcdtoast says it cannot access cdrecord
[03:33] <Ascendion> reiso -- its been about 30 minutes since I tried cdrecord -- I got a short memory :)
[03:33] <Ascendion> and it seems that cdrecord is just an alias for wodim anyway
[03:34] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: unable to locate intel-linux-...
[03:34] <wafflejock> irctc084: you should probably look into what you need to do to get a network share or whatever you plan on transferring to mounted via the command line then and just do a cp to copy everything out of there and then do a clean install
[03:34] <reisio> Ascendion: cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=/dev/sr0 path/to/image
[03:34] <geekmasterflash> Anyone here use intel graphics? I never have and I have no idea how to grab the drivers via commandline
[03:35] <BuntuFuntu> Geekmaster: I'd have no clue. I think I use all open-source drivers
[03:35] <irctc084> wafflejock: in case i can also just copy the files of the home in a separate drive, but the problem it is that i'm not ale to acceed without the desktop up
[03:35] <BuntuFuntu> Geekmasterflash: I know my comp does have Intel GMA on board.
[03:35] <wafflejock> there's intel-gpu-tools not sure though
[03:35] <wafflejock> irctc084: the home folder is just in /home
[03:36] <shai_> how do I say yes to all for rm -r for write protected files?
[03:36] <shai_> i can't keep tying y
[03:36] <wafflejock> irctc084: http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/
[03:36] <reisio> shai_: -f
[03:37] <shai_> its a directory
[03:37] <Ascendion> wodim: Cannot load media with this drive!
[03:37] <Ascendion> wodim: Try to load media by hand.
[03:37] <Ascendion> wodim: Cannot load media.
[03:37] <irctc084> wafflejock:  yes but it is encrpyted unfortunately, my desktop is encrypted
[03:37] <reisio> Ascendion: neat
[03:37] <shai_> reisio rm -r-f
[03:37] <reisio> Ascendion: you have more than one CD drive?
[03:37] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Try, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[03:38] <wafflejock> hmm well intel-gpu-tools is interesting.. not drivers but some cool stuff
[03:38] <reisio> shai_: probably -fr or -f -r, dunno what -f-r will do
[03:38] <Ascendion> and the burner is /dev/sg1 according to wodim --devices -- just the one dvd drive
[03:38] <wafflejock> irctc084: yeah see the link on booting from liveCD to access encrypted home folder
[03:38] <wafflejock> irctc084: most likely your best option there
[03:38] <reisio> Ascendion: and you tried /dev/sg1 ?
[03:38] <Ascendion> ya thats what I used for the command you gave
[03:39] <daftykins> stargate sg-1 :O
[03:39] <reisio> Ascendion: run 'eject -T' until it opens, then run it again until it closes
[03:39] <daftykins> sorry.
[03:39] <reisio> Ascendion: then try again
[03:39] <Ascendion> k
[03:39] <reisio> Ascendion: or stop wasting your time now and use a USB stick instead
[03:39] <Ascendion> reiso -- I'm about 1500 miles from the machine and the owner doesnt have a usb stick to sacrifice :)
[03:40] <reisio> Ascendion: sure sure :p
[03:40] <irctc084> wafflejock: i just need to login in order to access to the encrypted folder? or i need the encrypt key?
[03:40] <wafflejock> irctc084: I would imagine the key but not familiar with encrypting home folders, I don't do it for this reason
[03:41] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: some packages could not be installed... the followinf packages have unmet dependecies: xserver-...
[03:41] <wafflejock> Ascendion: have you tried just willing ubuntu onto it :)
[03:41] <reisio> Ascendion: you're using sudo, right?
[03:41] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Looks like we found your problem
[03:42] <irctc084> wafflejock:  thank you i will try just as last resort
[03:42] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  miss dependecies?
[03:43] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Yeah, you are missing depedencies for your graphics card, thus why you are getting a nice black screen. You need to fix the broken dependencies
[03:43] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: the complete text is: xserver-xorg-vide-intel : depende: xserver-xorg-core (>=2:<IP_ADDRESS>1)
[03:43] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: I belive you can try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:44] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: To fix it
[03:44] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: 0 updated 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded
[03:44] <Ascendion> resio I did "sudo bash" before I started this mess -- eject -T gives "ioctl: input/output error" but I'm able to access the disc for read if I insert a burned disc
[03:44] <reisio> Ascendion: alright, well, that doesn't sound great
[03:45] <reisio> Ascendion: define access
[03:45] <Ascendion> thats why I'm here -- very confused :)
[03:45] <Ascendion> access as in view and copy files from the disc
[03:45] <reisio> Ascendion: you want to burn so you can install to the same box?
[03:45] <Ascendion> yes
[03:45] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: the previous error says: unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[03:45] <reisio> Ascendion: you want to reinstall Ubuntu?
[03:45] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: You done broke it good.
[03:45] <Ascendion> yes -- full clean  wipe --
[03:46] <reisio> Ascendion: why? (real quick)
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Try sudo apt-get update
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Then try sudo apt-get install -f
[03:46] <Ascendion> just to get up to date before installing the apps that are going on this box
[03:47] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: If that doesnt work, missing dependencies may not be resolvable
[03:47] <reisio> Ascendion: why not update without reinstalling :p
[03:47] <irctc084> maybe this can help? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-removeinstall-and-reconfigure-xorg-without-reinstalling-ubuntu.html geekmasterflash
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> Ascendion, You can booth the iso from grub 2 if you like.
[03:47] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: same but this time 7 not upgraded
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> boot*
[03:48] <Ascendion> reiso -- wasnt aware that update in place was possible
[03:48] <reisio> Ascendion: yes of course
[03:48] <wafflejock> ooh wilee-nilee was thinking about that for clonezilla how?
[03:48] <reisio> Ascendion: what version is it? What version do you want?
[03:48] <Ascendion> on 12.04 want 13.10
[03:49] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: At this point, you're beyond my skill level to assist. :/ I'd try the suggestions on that link, but unless you can get the dependencies in order I am sure what else I could suggest.
[03:49] <IncrediblePony> It's complaining that it's finding some kind og GPT table or something like that
[03:49] <irctc084> it sounds strange that i'm on a shell and there is no way to acceed to the encripted folde via console?
[03:50] <IncrediblePony> what does that mean?
[03:50] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  thank you again i really appreciate your help
[03:50] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Uh, burn an iso to a dvd and liveCD it?
[03:50] <irctc084> yes that is what i'm going to try now
[03:50] <geekmasterflash> IncrediblePony: It means you try to dual boot on a protected disc
[03:50] <IncrediblePony> and what do I do if I don't have any discs?
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Has the computer ever had W8 on it?
[03:51] <reisio> Ascendion: I guess the upgrade path for that particular jump would be pretty tedious, even though it shouldn't be :p
[03:51] <reisio> Ascendion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:52] <nullsign> anyone have a good way to generate entropy for gpg creation if you only have access via shell? no mouse - etc
[03:52] <wafflejock> could have saved so many DVDs :)
[03:52] <reisio> well, reinstalling a Unix system for a reason other than changing hardware architecture is a bit silly
[03:52] <reisio> but yeah, you could have
[03:53] <wafflejock> reisio: eh just thinking clonezilla
[03:53] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  wafflejock   i'm inside the encrypted folder !!!!
[03:53] <reisio> oh, diff convo :)
[03:53] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: no it hasn't
[03:53] <IncrediblePony> only w7
[03:53] <pinPoint> what does aptitude -y full-upgrade do exactly? does it help with custom packages?
[03:53] <wafflejock> reisio: no in reply to the ISO booting thing... meaning I can boot from clonezilla iso without burning it, good tip
[03:53] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  wafflejock   sometimes the thing are so easy that we can not realize straight away!
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, The W8 factory installs are on uefi computers with gpt partitioning, I have seen a few W7 this way. The partition tables are set for gpt and a reloading of standard partitions will throw an error like this.
[03:54] <reisio> wafflejock: ah
[03:54] <wafflejock> irctc084: good to hear it
[03:54] <reisio> wafflejock: or you could just use all the stuff clonezilla has without booting into a new environment :p
[03:54] <irctc084> wafflejock: do you want me to share how?
[03:54] <wafflejock> reisio: yeah but it's nice and makes less mistakes than me
[03:54] <reisio> :p
[03:54] <wafflejock> reisio: I've been using rsync recently with cron
[03:54] <reisio> wafflejock: :)
[03:54] <wafflejock> reisio: but nice to have clonezilla for an occasional full shot
[03:55] <nullsign> anyone have a good way to generate entropy for gpg creation if you only have access via shell? no mouse - etc
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, An apple computer? I'm just trying to track down any gpt possibilities, apples are partioned with gpt.
[03:55] <wafflejock> irctc084: indeed
[03:55] <moppy> nullsign: Hit keys at random? Draw playing cards?
[03:56] <nullsign> moppy: i only have access via shell..
[03:56] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: what can I do to make this go away?
[03:56] <nullsign> moppy: i think it's annoying i need to use a GUI to make a GPG key..
[03:56] <nullsign> moppy: there ought to be a more clean way
[03:56] <wafflejock> nullsign: I'm sure you could use ambient noise or the like in a similar fashion but not sure about anything out of the box
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Answering questions is a good start so we can be sure what we do is appropriate. ;)
[03:57] <moppy> nullsign, gpg --genkey?
[03:57] <nullsign> moppy: correct
[03:57] <nullsign> wafflejock: the best I've got is doing this - for i in {1..1000000}; do echo $RANDOM; done
[03:57] <nullsign> but since /dev/random isn't really random.. im not sure how safe this is?
[03:57] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: Sry, didn't see your question :P - no this is an ASUS computer of the rog gaming series
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, You have a live ubuntu CD?
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> or usb/dvd
 nullsign: Hit keys at random? Draw playing cards?
[03:59] <wafflejock> nullsign: I don't think I really understand the need for entropy in this scenario to advise on how much it matters or not
[03:59] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: I'm using USB atm trying to install ubuntu, I've been using UUI and unetbootin to install my ubuntu iso on the USB
[04:00] <wafflejock> nullsign: some advice here http://www.thingy-ma-jig.co.uk/blog/22-01-2010/generate-entropy-gnupg
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, UUI do you mean UEFI, and is that what you want? You still have W7?
[04:01] <IncrediblePony> UUI meaning Universal USB Installer, and W7 is gone.. I've been trying with and w/o W7 on my pc
[04:01] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: same error every time
[04:02] <wafflejock> IncrediblePony: yeah I've used MultiBoot ISO and UUI before a bit but had much better luck with discs in general
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Cool use this app, bootrepair to run just the bootinfo summary, it will tell us some key info on the gpt error post the the url to that summary.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:04] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: but I have no OS atm, will it work if I boot from USB just as a portable?
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Yes, take a look at the link, it tells you how to run it from the live ubuntu usb.
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, What ai want is just the bootinfo summary it is on the gui, it generates a web link post it.
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> I*
[04:06] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  I have Ubuntu 12.04.  Screenshot of my desktop: http://imgur.com/NNlwey3  What I would like my desktop to look like: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Ubuntu_12.04.png
[04:06] <Boneheads1999> basically my goal is to get those cool buttons on the left and the nicer bar at the top
[04:07] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: it's unity
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Dude your stupid to run that OS you have no ides what is there.
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> idea
[04:07] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: as already suggested you should just download fresh Ubuntu from the site and you'll be good
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> bonehead is right. ;)
[04:07] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock Yeah I am totally up for doing that.. but I have no idea how to.  Could anybody link me to it or
[04:07] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:08] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[04:08] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: Either way works 12.04 will have slightly longer support since it's a 5 year supported release but either one should be fine
[04:09] <Boneheads1999> Wafflejock:  Okay.  I'll go ahead and download Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32-bit
[04:09] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: just download the file there then follow the instructions linked on the left of the download on how to proceed... basically you're just gonna burn this image to a disc then boot with it in the drive and follow the steps
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Make sure the hardware is up for running 12.04 from a thrift store it may be to old to even boot a pae kernel or powerful enough to run it.
[04:10] <Boneheads1999> I have like 1 GB RAM if that means anything, lol
[04:10] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: what wilee-nilee says is true be sure the hardware is up to snuff
[04:11] <reisio> Boneheads1999: means you have like 1 GB RAM
[04:11] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: you will be better off most likely with Xubuntu or Lubuntu, something with less graphical overhead... perhaps the GPU is okay though
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Thats good, I would just wonder about the chip, and age is all, my comments are basically so you don;t waste your time and use the install that will work.
[04:11] <wafflejock> you may*
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> failure is learning though. ;)
[04:12] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock wait a second
[04:13] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock I don't have a disc drive
[04:13] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock i'm laughing
[04:13] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: no worries see the link reisio pasted up above
[04:13] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[04:13] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: optionally can go the USB route but as I said to others here, haven't been very lucky with that myself
[04:14] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: can you please tell me wich is the shell command to run the xorg?
[04:15] <nightdemon666> startx
[04:15] <irctc084> ok, thank you
[04:16] <Ben64> uh
[04:16] <Ben64> it should be sudo service lightdm start
[04:16]  * wilee-nilee hears Frank Zappa's coneheads in the back ground
[04:18] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: I'll go to bed... I'm too tired to get any more done
[04:19] <nightdemon666> Lol, startx doesnt work on ubuntu???
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Sure do your self a favor though and run that bootinfo and use the ubuntu forums for help.
[04:19] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: I ran the boot repair but it just claimed success and no link, so I have nothing to give you
[04:20] <MajSlayer> hey guys, how do i install a GUI on ununtu? this dedicated server is pretty much blank..
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, You loaded the ppa and used just the bootinfo summary?
[04:20] <chicognu> nightdemon666, well it shoud work
[04:20] <MajSlayer> anyone got a good link?
[04:20] <reisio> MajSlayer: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but
[04:20] <MajSlayer> but..:)
[04:20] <reisio> MajSlayer: it'sll make a _server_ less secure and less efficient
[04:20] <reisio> it'll*
[04:20] <MajSlayer> ahh
[04:21] <MajSlayer> well i best setup ftp them
[04:21] <reisio> MajSlayer: just use ssh
[04:21] <MajSlayer> need red5 rc1 on there
[04:21] <MajSlayer> and not sure how to get it..
[04:21] <reisio> you can mount whatever you need via sshfs
[04:21] <reisio> and it'll look just like any other directory
[04:21] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: I have no idea what I've run tbh.. I'm so tired I can't focus
[04:22] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: the bootinfo is what? and where do I access it?
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Cool, well that script will give important info on the gpt error. The gui of the bootrepair has a bootinfo button you will see it on the web page.
[04:23] <Boneheads1999> Well
[04:23] <Boneheads1999> How do I know if I have GRUB2?
[04:24] <Boneheads1999> sorry gtg
[04:24] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: okay, thank you :) I'll see if I remember it for tomorrow
[04:24] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: nn everyone
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Cool.
[04:24] <lolcat> Hello
[04:25] <lolcat> Is there any simple, easy, non-annoying way to stream audio from ubuntu to dlna?
[04:26] <irctc084> how can i mount a fat32 usb drive via shell?
[04:27] <savorywatt_> nick savorywatt
[04:30] <fahadash> gedit is annoying, how do I make it stop creating extra files with ~ prefixes ?
[04:30] <fahadash> It has filled my whole file system with garbage
[04:30] <fahadash> Or at least, save it somewhere /tmp
[04:35] <nightdemon666> So, as i may assume you already know that those ~ prefixes are "backups" i just learn to deal with the fact that some smarty did me a favor and made it to where a backup copy gets saved automatically, and i can delete if i want to :-) means i need to remember to groom the FS as i go when i make changes to config files :-P
[04:37] <trism> fahadash: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83026/prevent-gedit-from-creating-files-with-the-tilde-suffix
[04:38] <fahadash> nightdemon666, I can manage my own carefulness, no thanks
[04:45] <MajSlayer> what command do i run to install ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10?
[04:45] <Nothing_Much> MajSlayer: You run "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[04:45] <MajSlayer> thanks Nothing_Much
[04:47] <wafflejock> fahadash: just use nano or sublime text or geany if you don't like how gedit does things
[04:47] <wafflejock> fahadash: or vi or vim if you like modes
[04:47] <SchrodingersScat> I only use sed
[04:48] <wafflejock> I recently started using jedit for some stuff too it's kinda nice
[04:48] <wafflejock> used it for doing some XML cleanup and the regex search and replace helped a lot
[04:50] <nightdemon666> I just use vi
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: hello mate
[05:04] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: hiya lotuspsychje
[05:06] <Abicus> !umask
[05:07] <wafflejock> Abicus: you can PM ubottu
[05:07] <wafflejock> Abicus: though it does not know umask
[05:07] <Abicus> Ah, didn't think about that. I did see it didn't know umask
[05:09] <wafflejock> Abicus: yeah just figured I'd let you know, I occasionally check it for things
[05:10] <Abicus> It's been a great help for me learning :) Is there anyway to just acquire it's database of links?
[05:11] <SchrodingersScat> Abicus: I've heard of such a thing.  Yes.
[05:11] <Abicus> SchrodingersScat: Love the name. A little dark but clever. How might I find this database?
[05:12] <SchrodingersScat> Abicus: All I know is someone here knows it.
[05:13] <IdleOne> !bot > Abicus
[05:13] <Eliyahu> hello i have a dell inspiron 1526 and the audio isnt appearing to work for the microphone , the video is working and sound is working but not mic for usb webcam or input jack mic
[05:13] <Abicus> Awesome! Thank you IdleOne
[05:14] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: install alsa-mixer
[05:14] <SchrodingersScat> and now i know too
[05:14] <SchrodingersScat> Until the forgetting :(
[05:14] <wafflejock> The more you know *
[05:15] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: sudo apt-get install alsa-mixer
[05:15] <georgij> Hi I am experiencing some issues with my Wireless I can
[05:15] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  thank you
[05:16] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: when you run it (alsa-mixer) you'll see volume sliders and 00 or MM under each one of the sliders, use arrows to move around and M to mute or Unmute use F6 I believe for switching cards
[05:16] <cfhowlett> !details|georgij,
[05:16] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: np
[05:17] <georgij> Hi I am experiencing some issues with my Wireless I can't get it working no matter how much I try, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 Kernel. I can't find it with "ip link" when writing "lspci -k" I find it and it says it's using kernel module: "wl".
[05:18] <wafflejock> georgij: does it show up in iwconfig
[05:18] <georgij> wafflejock: Hi, no it doesn't :(
[05:19] <wafflejock> georgij: think you may not have the right drivers loaded then... use your lspci output to find the appropriate driver is your best bet
[05:19] <Eliyahu> after it installs
[05:19] <Eliyahu> you type alsa?
[05:19] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: alsamixer
[05:20] <georgij> wafflejock: It says that the "Kernel driver in use: wl" from using the command "lspci -k"
[05:20] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: it's very basic graphical interface but is the low level audio controller so if stuff is muted here not sure that it works in pulse or jack
[05:20] <wafflejock> !alsa | Eliyahu
[05:21] <wafflejock> georgij: sorry not sure if that means that it's actually working or it's just the currently loaded though
[05:22] <wafflejock> georgij: I have an Intel 6235 N wifi and it uses iwlwifi
[05:22] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: sorry believe the package was alsa-utils I imagine you got that figured out though
[05:23] <georgij> wafflejock: I have BRoadcam BCM4311. I try to rmmod wl but it just hangs and I have to terminate it with the break character.
[05:23] <Ben64> !broadcom | georgij
[05:23] <Ben64> georgij: you have pretty much the worst wireless chip for linux, it's not easy to get working sometimes
[05:24] <georgij> Ben64: fml? lol
[05:24] <cfhowlett> Ben64, my mileage varies then.  I used the 10.04 ISO for source, editied a couple of files in terminal and fired up my bcm 4312 wifi without even a reboot.  took about 90 second
[05:25] <Ben64> cfhowlett: hence the "sometimes" at the end of my statement :P
[05:26] <Ben64> georgij: i'd suggest getting a cheap well supported usb card, or maybe install a more recent ubuntu
[05:26] <cfhowlett> ^^^ agreed.
[05:26] <wafflejock> georgij: yeah probably Ben64 suggestion is best
[05:27] <wafflejock> georgij: I've bought a few wifi adapters just for OS compatibility in one case OS X but usually aim for something Linux friendly too
[05:27] <Ben64> i couldn't get my broadcom to work at all on my laptop with 12.04, but 13.10 worked out of the box
[05:27] <wafflejock> the preloaded drivers in the kernel for newer versions has been much better recently
[05:28] <Ben64> this is what i got that works on everything ----> www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=8072
[05:28] <wafflejock> Ben64: nice monoprice is mostly amazing
[05:28] <Ben64> indeed it is
[05:29] <wafflejock> Ben64: it is what you pay for but when you don't need much it's great
[05:29] <Ben64> you get much more than what you pay for at monoprice
[05:29] <Boneheads1999> back
[05:29] <Boneheads1999> ok so how do I know if I have Grub2
[05:29] <wafflejock> Ben64: yeah basically what i meant... sometimes the stuff is a bit cheapy but really how classy can a mini USB wifi adapter get
[05:29] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: what version of ubuntu did you install
[05:30] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, run grub-install -v
[05:30] <Ben64> by the way, 1.99 = grub2
[05:30] <Boneheads1999> Ben64: I'm currently downloading 12.04.3 (an .iso file)
[05:31] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: thanks
[05:31] <molgrum> anyone else that can't open empathy contact list?
[05:32] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: here were my results
[05:32] <Boneheads1999> user@ubuntu:~$ grub-install -v
[05:32] <Boneheads1999> grub-install (GRUB) 1.99-21ubuntu3.10
[05:32] <Beldar> that be grub 2
[05:32] <Boneheads1999> ok thx
[05:33] <impradeepy> hello
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> OK since I don't have a Disc Drive
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> and want to install Ubuntu
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> I'm following the Grub2/ISOBoot
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> instructions
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> which are: Download and store Ubuntu ISOs
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> Create a GRUB 2 menuentry for running the ISO directly from a file
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> Install Ubuntu directly from an ISO file via the GRUB 2 menu
[05:33] <FloodBot1> Boneheads1999: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:34] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: yup sounds like it should work
[05:35] <BlueProtoman> What are some good livestreaming solutions for Ubuntu?
[05:35] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: explain livestreaming?
[05:35] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: not sure where those instructions are from but thats overcomplicated. you can either write the iso directly to a usb drive, or use something like unetbootin to do it
[05:35] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock: Streaming from my desktop, that is.
[05:35] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  it said it couldnt find package
[05:35] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: there is XBMC there is VLC
[05:35] <impradeepy> smplayer
[05:35] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: yeah sorry I corrected up there at some point, it's sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[05:35] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock: I don't quite think we're on the same page.  I meant streaming the contents of my desktop (i.e. I want the world to be able to see what I'm doing).
[05:36] <BlueProtoman> Kind of like what artists sometimes do.
[05:36] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: ah I'm not sure about live streaming
[05:36] <Boneheads1999> Ben64: well wafflejock said that using a USB drive is less reliable than grub2
[05:36] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: vokoscreen is good for capture
[05:36] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: it works fine
[05:36] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: it's been my experience USB is not reliable I'm not familiar with the Grub2 method just to clarify
[05:37] <Boneheads1999> hmm
[05:37] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock: Does it stream to the Internet, or does it just record to video?  I want to stream to the Internet.
[05:37] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: just meant for recording
[05:37] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock and Ben64: well I have a flash drive should I just do that?
[05:37] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock: Hrm, that won't do.  I want streaming.
[05:37] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: perhaps something on Justin.Tv or Ustream not sure though
[05:37] <Ben64> yeah, its simple
[05:37] <Beldar> beware of those more than willing to help you here the especially the longer it takes.
[05:38] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock and Ben64: and I have a flash drive, but it has some stuff on it.  There's plenty room for the .iso, but just sayin'.
[05:38] <wafflejock> Ben64: experience has been not all flash drives end up booting or not all BIOS support boot from USB or work
[05:38] <wafflejock> Beldar: what does that mean?
[05:38] <Ben64> easier to use usb than overwriting the mbr without a way to fix it
[05:39] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  its already green in the synaptic package maneger an installed
[05:39] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: can just run alsamixer from command line then to get in there
[05:39] <Boneheads1999> All I want to know is if I should just go ahead and do the USB drive method
[05:40] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: yes
[05:40] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: it's definitely worth a shot if you've got a flash drive around
[05:40] <Boneheads1999> ok.
[05:40] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: I was just saying my experience has been bad with it so giving an alternative
[05:40] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  ok it opened up the mixer now what do i do to test the mic/
[05:41] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: you just want to look around in here for the mic inputs and make sure they don't have MM underneath them
[05:41] <Eliyahu> all of the 0s have green and white and red levels all the way up to the top of the box
[05:41] <Eliyahu> an the nm has nothing in it
[05:41] <Boneheads1999> in the case that it ends up not booting or something from the USB drive, will there be any way to fix it or will I be completely screwed?
[05:42] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: F6 to change sound devices too, look around in the interface to see what you can do... basically you just want to make sure the mics aren't muted here though
[05:42] <Eliyahu> mic boos 100/100
[05:42] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: take out the usb drive and nothing will have been changed
[05:42] <Boneheads1999> oh ok Ben64
[05:42] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: you can use audacity to easily pick between different mic inputs to check if they're working
[05:42] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: sudo apt-get install audacity
[05:43] <Eliyahu> audacity is open
[05:43] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: it's a nicer graphical interface and has a little mic drop down for selecting your inputs so test from there then
[05:43] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: you can also use arecord at the command line... there's some good arch docs on it
[05:43] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
[05:45] <Boneheads1999> one more question.  Once I have a bootable USB drive, should I shut down the computer then stick it in?  or stick it in on the login screen.. or what do I do?
[05:45] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: I had similar issues... turned out one of them was the USB camera was hooked through a USB hub, the other part was my external mic had actually broken... so hardware failure I mistook for software failure
[05:46] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: well if you want to boot from it, it needs to be in the computer during boot
[05:46] <Boneheads1999> ok
[05:46] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: it should be in there on boot, you can select either boot options at your BIOS POST screen or in the BIOS setup changing the boot priority
[05:47] <ObrienDave> I've had no problems installing to a USB drive
[05:48] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: yeah I have like 5 bootable USB flash drives I use for playing with random distros, it works most of the time, but not on all computers, particularly not on older machines
[05:49] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  i am middle manning the commands to a new user i set up the ubuntubox and shipped it to that person and now they put their own webcam in and it doesnt have audio but my webcam i tested the audio on worked
[05:49] <ObrienDave> well, no, the computer must support booting from a USB HD, of course
[05:50] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: right but even so I've had situations where some pariticular flash drive doesn't work but then another one in the same machine works it's just more wonky than with a DVD or CD
[05:51] <ObrienDave> This is true, but you cant update the system on a CD or DVD
[05:52] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: well I just use it for install then toss it... it's a bit of an unfortunate waste but worth it for my time
[05:53] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: I just trust that bootable CDs/DVDs which have worked for more than ten years now are all good everywhere always.... except when you have no DVD drive
[05:55] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: would verify they aren't using a hub, even so mine worked in Audacity actually it just wasn't working in google hangouts
[05:56] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: beyond that you can use the stuff in the alsa guide I linked from the arch wiki to use arecord and the like to capture audio if you suspect any problems in audacity, do you see the mic input in alsamixer?
[05:57] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: when you hit F6 in there you should see a USB option if you don't I don't think it's seeing the webcam mic
[05:59] <ObrienDave> wafflejock, also true, that's why I keep a few DVD-RW for installs ;))
[06:01] <MajSlayer> This session appears to be running under ssh, It is not recommended to perform a upgrade over ssh currently because in case of failure it is harder to recover.
[06:01] <MajSlayer> ^ something to really worry about?
[06:02] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: well it's true if ssh can't start back up and you don't have physical access...
[06:02] <MajSlayer> aye says it will make a second shh on port 1022
[06:02] <MajSlayer> but alas, being its a dedicated server, how else can i upgrade it?
[06:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: just saying would make backups if possible
[06:03] <MajSlayer> aye
[06:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: I use AWS they have options for snapshot
[06:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: but like you say it's the only way
[06:03] <MajSlayer> yeah not sure what else to do currently
[06:03] <MajSlayer> being it has nothing on it really, most likely run fine..
[06:04] <MajSlayer> i'll give it a go, what the hey, figure 13.10 is better?
[06:04] <wafflejock> MajSlayer:
[06:04] <wafflejock> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes
[06:05] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: I dunno I've stuck with 12.04 most places still so far
[06:05] <MajSlayer> aye
[06:05] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: used some PPA to get the latest PHP and Apache but don't see the advantage personally
[06:05] <MajSlayer> heck i'll just give the upgrade a go
[06:06] <MajSlayer> 13.04 was a little flakey to me
[06:06] <MajSlayer> i liked 12 myself
[06:06] <MajSlayer> so maybe .10 will be better
[06:09] <MajSlayer> 54 seconds to download 250mb not bad..
[06:10] <kevin> ATI video card here. is there a way i can quickly switch between radeon and fglrx modules (after reboot of course) or must i continuously uninstall and reinstall fglrx?
[06:11] <kevin> maybe blacklist the module and remove the driver line from xorg.conf or something
[06:12] <babinlonston> Hi all , Any Linux admins Here to give me Good linux Contents for My Blog
[06:12] <Ben64> babinlonston: this is the ubuntu support channel, any other topic does not belong here
[06:12]  * ObrienDave jealous of MajSlayer connection speed ;P
[06:13] <babinlonston> ok
[06:13] <MajSlayer> yeah hope this OneStep server turns out to be good
[06:13] <MajSlayer> but its really my connectin per say...
[06:14] <kevin> sounds reasonable. lets reboot and see what happens
[06:14] <darkelfjuggalo> I just installed a 64-Bit Ubuntu 13.04 ISO into an Acer Aspire 5534 [AMD Anthalon 64] the installer said everything went through properly, and asked me to restart... when I restarted, it cannot find the Operating system
[06:14] <Beldar> babinlonston, An?d this relates to ubuntu how
[06:15] <Beldar> And*
[06:15] <babinlonston> Belder i need Ubuntu Contents so what asked
[06:15] <Beldar> babinlonston, You want some cute little penguins.
[06:16] <ObrienDave> babinlonston, *ubuntu-offtopic
[06:16] <ObrienDave> babinlonston, #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <MajSlayer> okay bit of a problem, being new to grub, when it updated grub (for the 13.04 to 13.10) its asking me to pick /dev/sda (harddrive info here), dev/sda1 boot (225mb) or dev/sda3 (11728mb)
[06:19] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, This a dual boot with say W8, or at least W8 was there at one time?
[06:19] <MajSlayer> what one should i choose? i'm guessong the sda1 boot one correct?
[06:19] <MajSlayer> guessing*
[06:20] <Ben64> MajSlayer: should be sda
[06:20] <MajSlayer> okay so first choice
[06:20] <babinlonston> Beldar: :p Better you Buy some Sheeps and go to field
[06:20] <MajSlayer> just don't want to mess up this upgrade
[06:21] <Beldar> babinlonston, What ever you heard I own no wool. ;)
[06:21] <MajSlayer> havent used linux in 10 years..lol well not over ssh and on a remote computer
[06:22]  * Beldar whistles the coneheads
[06:22] <ObrienDave> lol
[06:22] <ObrienDave> thought that nick was familiar ;)
[06:22] <Beldar> hehe
[06:23] <Eliyahu> how do i set up remote administration in ubuntu 13.10
[06:23] <MajSlayer> well here goes, reboot required, hope this goes well
[06:23] <x1337807x> How would I reload the new shell (just changed to bash) in the middle of a bash script?
[06:23] <Eliyahu> i want to remove an ubuntu box i am needing to fix at another persons house
[06:23] <Eliyahu> i want to remote an ubuntu box i am needing to fix at another persons house
[06:23] <ro9> greeting fellow users
[06:23] <Ben64> Eliyahu: just once is fine
[06:24] <Beldar> ObrienDave, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-U_wH-fVGU
[06:24] <Seb_bday> YouTube Title: 	Frank Zappa - Conehead, Live Performance, 1978 Views: 3,456 Length: 9:16 User: 		tomtiddler1
[06:24] <Beldar> Seb_bday, Your a bot
[06:25] <ro9> my netstat -tap shows netbios-ssn and microsoft-ds where that came from
[06:25] <ObrienDave> OOOO, a Zappa fan, I LIKE you already LMAO
[06:25] <Ben64> ObrienDave, Beldar: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:25] <x1337807x> Is this impossible? Switching from sh to bash mid-script?
[06:26] <Beldar> how about the bot in our midst
[06:26] <Ben64> tell #ubuntu-ops
[06:28] <x1337807x> Maybe just give me a hint? I'm having a hard time Googling for the answer.
[06:29] <Ben64> x1337807x: maybe ask #bash ? but they don't like questions about not-bash
[06:29] <x1337807x> I'll give it a shot, thanks
[06:30] <Tm_T> x1337807x: start the script with "#!/bin/bash" and the rest of the script should be run with bash then I believe
[06:31] <user__> How do I install multiple conky widgets?
[06:32] <x1337807x> Tm_T: Good call, thanks.
[06:32] <linuxlite1983> anyone knows here
[06:32] <Tm_T> x1337807x: you can find more info about that for example from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29
[06:32] <linuxlite1983> metasploit
[06:32] <linuxlite1983> anyone
[06:33] <robierob> hey room
[06:34] <Beldar> linuxlite1983, there is a channel with that name.
[06:34] <linuxlite1983> ok thaanks
[06:38] <user__> How can I install multiple conky widgets?
[06:39] <Beldar> #conky
[06:42] <nooblet> hello?
[06:42] <nooblet> I have a question regarding openssh
[06:43] <nooblet> I want to shutdown a server and when I log into the super user profile on the server using ssh I type: shutdown -h 03:00 to make it shutdown at 3AM
[06:43] <nooblet> but I want to close off the terminal and shutdown my own computer
[06:44] <nooblet> would closing the terminalcancel the command I sent to the server through ssh?
[06:44] <syrious> I need help with installing AMD Catalyst control center, does anyone have experience with this program?
[06:44] <Ben64> !anyone | syrious
[06:45] <Ben64> nooblet: i've never used shutdown that way, you could try it and find out. or, use something like screen on the server
[06:46] <nooblet> How would you do it?
[06:46] <nooblet> YOu want to shutdown your server at 3AM through Openssh and go to your bed
[06:46] <Ben64> well i never turn my server off, kind of defeats the purpose of a server. but i would use screen
[06:46] <MajSlayer> well dang installing grub onto sda, well not she wont boot
[06:46] <nooblet> shutdown the computer you used to log into the server via SSH
[06:47] <nooblet> ok
[06:50] <wafflejock> nooblet: can possibly setup a cron job to shutdown at 3AM
[06:50] <ObrienDave> MajSlayer, what exactly is it doing or not doing?
[06:50] <wafflejock> nooblet: not sure how the delayed shutdown works though it may be fine too
[06:50] <nooblet> Could you tell me how to do that?
[06:50] <MajSlayer> well i got it to reboot
[06:50] <syrious> ben64: ubottu: I know I've seen you guys on here before, I am very super extra new to the whole of the linux world. I literally have no idea what I'm doing and trying to learn the best I can as I go along. I know it's not the most recommended way to go about learning something new, but it is how I learn.  I apologize if I offend anyone or get on anyones nerves, but for once I would like for someone to treat me as I am, a guy, trying to LEARN something, and help me accordingly
[06:50] <MajSlayer> had to use LEAP3 from siglehop and tell it to reboot from there
[06:50] <MajSlayer> just didn't reboot from ssh i guess
[06:50] <wafflejock> nooblet: haven't used it for shutdown but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[06:51] <MajSlayer> but what it wasnts doing was allowing to to ssh back into it, even after 5 mins
[06:51] <MajSlayer> guess putty closed on me before some other question came up, no idea..
[06:52] <Ben64> syrious: the purpose of the !anyone trigger is to get you to actually ask a question. asking if anyone has used "____" doesn't really help. also, ubottu is a bot
[06:53] <wafflejock> syrious: you get a mix in a random online community I try to be nice to people, it's hard though because sometimes you try to help people out and then they turn on you as though you owe them something, don't be offended if people expect you to know something or to try and figure it out for yourself, Ben64 was just trying to get you to explain your problem
[06:53] <ObrienDave> syrious, and going on a "no help" rant does not help either
[06:54] <wafflejock> syrious: the IRC channel has it's own etiquette part of that is when you come here for help you need to include as much detail as you possibly can and explain what you don't know... or else no one can help you
[06:54] <MajSlayer> what command would i type to see what version of Ubuntu i've upgraded to?
[06:54] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: lsb_release -a
[06:54] <MajSlayer> thanks wafflejock
[06:55] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: np
[06:56] <MajSlayer> hmm i dont think it has that package installed...
[06:57] <MajSlayer> how do i download lsb_release package?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> MajSlayer: its not a package but a command to type in terminal
[06:57] <tkelley> 13.10... Whenever I close the laptop lid and open it back up again, the login screen doesn't appear, and I'm forced to restart... is that a known issue?
[06:58] <tkelley> I've got the power options set to suspend on lid close, which is what I want it to do
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: maybe check settings in dconf editor, see if you can fix it there
[06:59] <tkelley> not finding too much online... lots about black screens, but this is my regular screen with no content...mouse works too
[06:59] <ObrienDave> tkelley, or try and moving the mouse, press a key, etc.
[06:59] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: yeah never had to install it honestly not sure
[06:59] <MajSlayer> No command 'lsb_release' found from 'lsb_release' package
[06:59] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: try to just install lsb_release
[06:59] <MajSlayer> k
[06:59] <MajSlayer> ty
[06:59] <Ben64> are you sure you have ubuntu?
[06:59] <tkelley> ObrienDave: yeah, did that... it's worked for me forever on 12.04
[06:59] <tkelley> can't even Ctrl-Alt-F1
[07:00] <tkelley> it's just frozen, except for the mouse
[07:01] <MajSlayer> install missing operand after 'lsb-release'
[07:01] <Ben64> MajSlayer: what does "cat /etc/issue" say?
[07:01] <ObrienDave> typo, check it again ;)
[07:02] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  Running Ubuntu 12.04.  In Mozilla Firefox, on youtube.com, when trying to watch a Youtube video, the spot where the video player should be is just a black or white square/rectangle
[07:02] <Boneheads1999> as in
[07:02] <Boneheads1999> Flash don't work
[07:02] <MajSlayer> Ubuntu 13.10:)
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/365595/cant-hibernate-on-lid-close-13-10
[07:02] <ManOfStll> Anyone play Black ops?
[07:02] <MajSlayer> guess i'm upgraded, cool
[07:02] <Ben64> ManOfStll: not on topic here
[07:02] <MajSlayer> ty Ben64
[07:03] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: you need to run flash player installer
[07:03] <ManOfStll> lol
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> Boneheads1999: did you install flashplugin-installer?
[07:03] <MajSlayer> and waffle once again:)
[07:03] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Flash-Player-on-Ubuntu
[07:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: de nada
[07:03] <MajSlayer> yeah until my book arrives from amazon
[07:03] <MajSlayer> i'm dangerous:)
[07:04] <MajSlayer> first remote server i've played with only via ssh
[07:04] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: I have books I'm still dangerous
[07:04] <MajSlayer> yep thats how it is:)
[07:04] <MajSlayer> gotta be dangerous to learn
[07:04] <MajSlayer> imo
[07:04] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: to some degree... good to have stable systems too
[07:04] <MajSlayer> no risk, no reward
[07:04] <MajSlayer> oh yeah now thats for sure
[07:05] <MajSlayer> just saying you often do learn things by your mistakes
[07:05] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: indeed
[07:05] <MajSlayer> granted its a horrible way to go about it.lol
[07:05] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: VirtualBox is great for mistakes
[07:05] <MajSlayer> give a guy a heart-attack.lol
[07:05] <syrious> Ben64: ok fair enough, I did not know that, I will remember that in the future. As for my question, I have an HP 255 g1 notebook computer, I have installed Ubuntu 13.10 on it, the Graphics card does not seem to be pushing the same quality graphics as it did when the computer was on Win 8.1 (the original OS that the computer came with) when I go through the Additional drivers option through the settings tree it only gives me 4 different opti
[07:05] <syrious> ons, and through all of them, nothing seems to change. I have tried to install the AMD Catalyst control center that goes with my hardware specs and even managed to get the correct drivers through AMD's website. I have tried to run a software update through the command line with no luck, and when I run the .run file through gedit (I have no idea what this program really does) it gets all the way through to almost the end, and then fails due
[07:05] <syrious> to some sort of scripting error ( I have not copied the error itself yet, and it will prolly be another 8 hours before I can get the error again if I restarted it now) so my question is this: is there a faster, simpler way to install the software that my hardware calls for? if so, what is it and can I please have it explained to me as if I am in an introductory class?
[07:05] <wafflejock> yeah need the heart
[07:05] <FloodBot1> syrious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <Boneheads1999> lotuspsychje & wafflejock: Looks like I already have "Adobe Flash plugin".
[07:05] <MajSlayer> last version i use of linux was Mandrake to run a ISP way way back
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> Boneheads1999: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[07:06] <MajSlayer> everything has changed soo much
[07:06] <syrious> well shit, yet another thing I didn't know
[07:06] <Boneheads1999> lotuspsychje: Not yet.  I'll go do that one second.
[07:06] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: do about:plugins in your browser bar to see plugins
[07:06] <syrious> can I please mention now that I have absolutely no experience in IRC either?
[07:07] <ObrienDave> !language | syrious
[07:07] <wafflejock> syrious: heh yeah the bots will make you feel dumb the first week or so :)
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> syrious: asking in a chat is pretty easy
[07:07] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock: Okay, did that.  Shockwave Flash is listed there.
[07:07] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: says version 11,2 something
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> Boneheads1999: you did install your grafix driver correctly aswell?
[07:08] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock: Yeah I have version 11.2
[07:08] <ObrienDave> syrious, you just have to be fairly polite about it
[07:08] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: hmm... sounds like it should be good then dunno
[07:08] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock: I'm gonna go ahead and do the restricted extras
[07:08] <tkelley> lotuspsychje: Hmm... that link still says they don't have the option for the lid switch event: "After rebooting Hibernate menu reappeared in Menu. But still unavailable in Power Settings -> when the lid is closed"
[07:08] <Ben64> syrious: well installing the drivers from the amd site is not supported and shouldn't be done. the Additional Drivers dialog is the correct way
[07:08] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: I usually prefer chromium-browser myself but I have it in my firefox and it's working
[07:09] <Ben64> !ati | syrious and reading this could help too
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: not sure for 13.10, but i would go dig in dconf editor and check some energy options there
[07:09] <tkelley> I'm having an insane amount of problems with 13.10... is that a common thing?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: it all depends on the machine also
[07:10] <tkelley> I really can't remember having this many problems with 12.04
[07:10] <syrious> Ben64: alright, however, the last time I tried reading that, I got a headache, lol. that and most of what it says sounds oddly like 90% of what I've already tried
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: many others have no issues on 13.10
[07:10] <wafflejock> tkelley: I think 13.10 is still a bit shakey for some... others have said it's solid, not enough experience here to say
[07:10] <tkelley> I'm on the same machine as my 12.04... only thing I've done is swapped out the HD for an SSD, and added some RAM
[07:10] <wafflejock> tkelley: what kinds of bugs?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: think at it this way: you helping the community to bug out
[07:11] <tkelley> that shouldn't affect this type of thing, should it?
[07:11] <syrious> tkelley: out of curiosity, where are you from?
[07:11] <wafflejock> tkelley: well if the RAM has problems you could definitely get errors
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> syrious: plz use this channel for ubuntu support questions
[07:11] <tkelley> well, right now, it's that when I shut my lid and open it back up again, I don't see a login screen
[07:11] <tkelley> I'm in Boston
[07:11] <syrious> fair, was just curious
[07:12] <tkelley> yes, I know it's late :P
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> syrious: we have a nice chitchat channel at #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:12] <tkelley> I've been struggling with this install for a few days... my productivity at work has tanked :(
[07:12] <wafflejock> tkelley: always backup, always
[07:12] <syrious> lotuspsychje: I will keep that in mind
[07:13] <tkelley> oh it's not about backing up
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: best way is to grab 1 problem at once, and fix it in support here
[07:13] <Ben64> tkelley: then don't shut the lid? or change it so shutting the lid doesn't activate any power saving features?
[07:13] <wafflejock> yeah with the SSD boot time isn't a big deal
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> maybe unity-wteak got energy tweaks aswell?
[07:13] <wafflejock> firing back up a few apps isn't a big deal, if you use KDE it restores the session
[07:13] <tkelley> Ben64: But on the same machine, I've been shutting the lid on 12.04 for at least a year... And I know that one of these days it's gonna overheat in my bag :P
[07:14] <Ben64> then set it to shut down when the lid is closed?
[07:15] <tkelley> no, no... I don't think I'm being clear... sorry :( My issue is that now that I've *up*graded, I'm having to go through all these hoops to do things the same way I used to
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: with your ssd speed it will be speed boot anyway :p
[07:15] <tkelley> I know, I know... it's like 20 seconds, which is awesome :D
[07:15] <tkelley> but still... it used to be 5 to open the lid, you know?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: try a clean install, maybe beter luck or wait for 14.04 to come out
[07:15] <wafflejock> tkelley: that's why I was saying you should back up before you upgrade so you can go back more easily.. just made the same mistake myself... had rsynced everything but wish I had just dd'ed it
[07:16] <tkelley> haha this is a clean install! I've done a fresh install about 8-10 times today
[07:16] <Ben64> tkelley: and whats why i stay on LTS versions
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: oh ok
[07:16] <tkelley> blargh
[07:16] <wafflejock> went from 13.04 to 13.10 and ran into some graphics issues I didn't want to deal with... so downgraded back to 12.04
[07:16]  * lotuspsychje skipped 13.10 :p
[07:16] <tkelley> how big of a difference is 12.04 and 13.10? is it worth it?
[07:16] <tkelley> (vague question, I know...sorry)
[07:16] <wafflejock> tkelley: I don't think so... look at the changelog
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: all depends on what your needs are
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: if you are the guy, liking to test new versions..
[07:17] <tkelley> just for java development, web dev... apache, mysql, etc
[07:17] <tkelley> nothing fancy
[07:17] <wafflejock> tkelley: no not really I do web dev too have a different PPA for the latest PHP but that's about it
[07:17] <tkelley> cartainly nothing graphics-intensive
[07:17] <wafflejock> tkelley: look at the changelog though
[07:17] <tkelley> ok, I'll do that
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: if you want longer stable support, stick to LTS like Ben64 suggested
[07:17] <wafflejock> tkelley: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes
[07:18] <Ben64> lotuspsychje, tkelley: yeah, especially since the non-lts versions are only supported for 9 months now
[07:18] <tkelley> right
[07:18] <tkelley> so in short, I'm not weird if I were to go back to 12.04... :)
[07:18] <wafflejock> no
[07:18] <wafflejock> that would be sane
[07:19] <tkelley> like, that's actually a thing that some people do
[07:19] <tkelley> ok
[07:19] <tkelley> haha
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: 14.04 is about to come...so good news for lts world
[07:19] <tkelley> is that LTS?
[07:19] <wafflejock> long term support
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> !lts | tkelley
[07:19] <wafflejock> !lts
[07:19] <Ben64> yep, every 2 years
[07:19] <wafflejock> beat me to it
[07:19] <tkelley> no, i know what it means
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> :p
[07:19] <tkelley> just didn't know if this version was it
[07:19] <wafflejock> yeah every 2 years so 12.04 then 14.04
[07:19] <tkelley> sweet
[07:19] <Ben64> even.04 is LTS
[07:20] <tkelley> I gather that the benefit there is that there's more dev effort on it?
[07:20] <tkelley> it's supported for longer, so more things get fixed, etc?
[07:20] <Ben64> much longer support, more focus on stability, and way less upgrading to do
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: it all depends on your machine... i had not 1 issue on 13.04 on my machine
[07:20] <wafflejock> tkelley: yeah just means it's focused on security upgrades for longer
[07:21] <tkelley> yeah, I think every issue I've had has been with graphics
[07:21] <tkelley> nvidia
[07:21] <wafflejock> tkelley: pretty much all graphics or wifi issues
[07:21] <Ben64> most problems are with laptops really
[07:21] <wafflejock> tkelley: everything else generally works fine
[07:21] <Ben64> they have funky hardware setups
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> and many machines run out of the box too!
[07:21] <tkelley> do the LTS releases do more to address those types of problems?
[07:22] <wafflejock> yeah I've installed on lots of random machines doing IT work just too see if it works, most of the time the answer is yes minus wifi
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: last laptop i did had uefi, and just installed 13.04 out of the box, no issues, no bios tuning..
[07:23] <wafflejock> tkelley: LTS at least with 12.04 seems to work a bit more reliabiably in general, it was just a good release
[07:23] <tkelley> cool
[07:23] <shijo> hello
[07:23] <wafflejock> tkelley: experience will vary with different hardware though for sure
[07:23] <user__> How can I remove all files in a dir matching *string*?
[07:23] <tkelley> that settles it... I'm downloading it now :P
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: that doesnt mean 14.04 will not have problems with your machine at the launch
[07:24] <tkelley> right
[07:24]  * xmetal agrees with lotuspsychje, 100%
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> shijo: welcome mate, what can we do for you?
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> user__: man rm
[07:25] <xmetal> everytime i see "Precise" i think of that guy from Lord of the Rings, Smeagle
[07:25] <xmetal> lol
[07:25] <wafflejock> precious
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> 15.04 smiling smeagol
[07:26] <Beldar> tkelley, You believed all that, hey I gotta bridge held by the nigerian royal family for sale.
[07:26] <user__> lotuspsychje: it says nothing about pattern matching
[07:26] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: 15.04 will XX
[07:26] <tkelley> I'll believe anything after spending two days banging my head against a wall
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: :p
[07:26] <Beldar> ;)
[07:27] <Guest62610>
[07:27] <xmetal> lol ... smeagol  on the ubuntu development team ... just sitting there going "precissssssssse" .... then getting yelled at for not finishing the code he was suppose to get done
[07:27] <xmetal> i can see it now
[07:27] <user__> How can I remove all files in a dir matching a string?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> user__: so you want only specific files deleted from a folder?
[07:28] <user__> yeah
[07:28] <user__> all containing the same string
[07:28] <Ben64> user__: rm /path/to/directory/*foobar*
[07:28] <user__> thanks
[07:29] <user__> Ben64: btw they are .file files/dirs. Getting "no such file or dir exists" errors
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> user__: or here with a specific extension: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104831/how-to-delete-all-the-files-with-a-certain-extension-from-a-folder-and-all-of-it
[07:30] <tkelley> user__: Are you using the full path?
[07:30] <Ben64> user__: you want to delete directories too?
[07:30] <user__> yeah directories too
[07:31] <Ben64> then add -fr after the rm
[07:31] <Ben64> and be very careful with it, one wrong move will delete everything
[07:31] <wafflejock> yeah especially with a sudo
[07:31] <wafflejock> it's the nuclear detonator of linux, that and dd
[07:31] <user__> awesome, thanks gusy
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> !yay | user__
[07:32] <Ben64> pretty much anything with sudo and wildcards is full of danger
[07:32] <wafflejock> Ben64: true
[07:32] <Ben64> people here have chmodded the entire partition to 777 and stuff
[07:32] <wafflejock> heh yeah that's no good either
[07:32] <tkelley> yikes lol
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm makes me think, i was looking for a bomb command to zero my hd's fast way if fbi rings my door
[07:33] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: not really fast but dd does the trick I believe
[07:33] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: think a hammer is faster though
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: will it not be recoverable after?
[07:33] <xmetal> hmm not a command but you could install windows 8 on it
[07:33] <xmetal> :P
[07:34] <tkelley> a guy put magnets around his doorframe on SVU one time :P
[07:34] <wafflejock> the hammer?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: lol
[07:34] <Ben64> dd is the fastest and best way to zero a drive, but you can't do it from itself
[07:34] <tkelley> and the cops obviously realized like 3 feet too late haha
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: will photorec not be able to recover after dd zero?
[07:34] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: not at all
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: nice
[07:34] <wafflejock> EMP is the best solution
[07:34] <Ben64> its full of zeros if you did it right, so you can recover... zeros
[07:35] <wafflejock> 007 that sucka
[07:35] <ObrienDave> hammer is way more effective
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: got it
[07:35] <Ben64> can retrieve info from hammered drive
[07:35] <ObrienDave> not the way I would do it LOL
[07:35] <wafflejock> plus gives you a reason to buy a high amperage coil and capacitors you've been eyeing, which will give the FBI a reason to come
[07:35] <wafflejock> heheh
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> yes indeed, there are special companys who recover magnetic spindle
[07:36] <xmetal> hmm this didn't ruin the pc, but just kicked a guy i know offline ... everytime he used his microwave, his wifi internet connection would die
[07:36] <j4ckxandxj1ll> lol
[07:36] <xmetal> lol i can see someone hammering the heck out of the HDD, then remembering they just ordred a pizza and it's the delivery guy
[07:36] <ObrienDave> LMAO
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:36] <xmetal> (parinoid)
[07:37] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Guys, who has experience in dual-booting win8-64 and Ubuntu LTS 64?
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: is it an uefi machine?
[07:37] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Yes
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: can you describe whats happening?
[07:38] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Well, i have the live CD(atm i have 32bit, getting 64) and i get into grub to change boot priority. But grub won't see my CD drive
[07:38] <Ben64> j4ckxandxj1ll: grub?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: you mean bios perhaps?
[07:39] <j4ckxandxj1ll> -_- sorry i always get them confused
[07:39] <Guest22689> Hi all, How do I 'automount' my NAS so it shows up as drives automatically in ubuntu?
[07:39] <Ben64> !fstab | Guest22689
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | j4ckxandxj1ll
[07:40] <Guest22689> Thanks Ben64 :0
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: set cd to boot first in bios
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: or try with liveusb
[07:40] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Thing is, my bios won't see my CD drive.   High graphics modes
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> nannes: http://www.alienware.com/ubuntu/
[07:44] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Like BF4 ultra xD
[07:44] <j4ckxandxj1ll> But i just play LoL, Minecraft and AC2 :P maybe BF3
[07:44] <ObrienDave> oh, the important things of life
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: if you want a stable and secure Os for everyday, use ubuntu on full hd :p
[07:46] <j4ckxandxj1ll> ik ik :P have been using Ubuntu full HDD since i was 5, and i am 16 now
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> not sure on how virtualbox will perform on gaming
[07:46] <ObrienDave> even worse
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> right
[07:46] <j4ckxandxj1ll> virtualbox for gaming is baad :P
[07:47] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Unless u wanna play Mario with a i7 xD
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> time someone invents a multiarch deamon-tools like gaming engine
[07:47] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Game developers should write games for Windows.... racists
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> well opensource and money...
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> but lets move back to support
[07:48]  * ObrienDave wonders where the OT police are now
[07:48] <j4ckxandxj1ll> lol ya
[07:48] <nannes> j4ckxandxj1ll: Well those games aren't really enough interesting to be the cause of keeping windows. I mean, if you talk about crysis,COD,PES... I would agree!
[07:48] <Beldar> remlak
[07:49] <nannes> but not those xD
[07:49] <j4ckxandxj1ll> meh, cod xD I can do that on wine
[07:49] <j4ckxandxj1ll> never played crysis
[07:49] <nannes> COD on wine?  lol I don't wanna guess how much it sucks in graphics that way
[07:49] <FloodBot1> fe3Fxrf34Fj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <j4ckxandxj1ll> lol
[07:50] <j4ckxandxj1ll> nannes, i wish i could UPGRADE to win7 :P
[07:50] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> it's true
[07:50] <j4ckxandxj1ll> I will be getting my Ubuntu 12.04.3 64bit on the weekend, i will be back here if i need help ^^
[07:50] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Now i gtg study, see ya
[07:51] <nannes> buez
[07:51] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> you pedos all wanted to talk to him
[07:51] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> that's why you weren't interested in me... you're a bunch of pedophiles
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> !ops | fe3Fxrf34Fj
[07:51] <ObrienDave> no feeding the troll
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> here's an interesting thread about ubuntu gaming: http://askubuntu.com/questions/163903/gaming-performance-difference-between-windows-and-ubuntu
[07:52] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> it's not my fault you all want to rape boys
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Myrtti: tnx
[07:52] <Myrtti> fe3Fxrf34Fj: stop.
[07:52] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> stop what
[07:52] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> protecting the innocent?
[07:52] <ObrienDave> being a jerk
[07:52] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> i made my life standing up to bad guys
[07:52] <Myrtti> fe3Fxrf34Fj: this is a Ubuntu support channel, not your soapbox for whatever you're doing
[07:53] <user> How can I swap my fn and ctrl keys around?
[07:53] <Myrtti> fe3Fxrf34Fj: if you don't have a Ubuntu support question or issue or aren't helping in them, then please refrain from whatever you're doing
[07:54] <Ben64> user: you likely cannot, fn usually doesn't appear as anything to the OS
[07:54] <Feelsenburg> is preseeding still the "best" way to install ubuntu unassisted?
[07:55] <user> Ben64: I was able to do it with the original lenovo bootloader
[07:55] <user> but I've formatted since then
[07:55] <Ben64> lenovo bootloader?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> Feelsenburg: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-intro.html
[07:57] <user> Ben64: sorry bios
[07:57] <Myrtti> user: and why can't you do it in bios now?
[07:57] <Feelsenburg> Thanks. I was reading through that actually. Still seems to be the preferred method then.
[07:57] <Ben64> user: formatting doesn't change the bios...
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> Feelsenburg: if thats what you need, yes
[07:58] <user> good point
[07:58] <user> having trouble accessing it
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> user: maybe the ##hardware channel might know
[07:59] <Feelsenburg> Well, I was looking for a kickstart equivalent for ubuntu
[08:00] <Myrtti> Feelsenburg: that document doesn't have a bit about kickstart?
[08:00] <Myrtti> Feelsenburg: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[08:02] <Feelsenburg> interesting.
[08:03]  * ObrienDave hears kickstart, thinks Amiga boot disk LOL