[20:56] <bodhi_zazen> so If I boot ubuntu/fedora, it will boot linux, but the grub2 menu entry for windows does not always work
[20:57] <Balzy> OerHeks yup, don't know how accurate that benchmark can be though, I've just scrolled quickly through the charts
[20:57] <shiggitay> I don't see the partition I made with my Windows installer stuff
[20:57] <bodhi_zazen> shiggitay, if you need help, run boot-repair, post your grub entry (pastebin) and post your error message when you boot windows from the grub menu
[20:57] <shiggitay> bodhi_zazen,
[20:57] <bekks> shiggitay: That link explains on how to deal with grub, too.
[20:58] <shiggitay> Hmmmmmmmmmm
[20:58] <bodhi_zazen> shiggitay, if you post the information I requested, I will look
[20:58] <shiggitay> k
[21:00] <wuschLOR> a one liner would be great
[21:00] <shiggitay> I don't have boot-repair
[21:00] <bodhi_zazen> shiggitay, install it
[21:01] <shiggitay> this is all on my tablet btw, and I did an apt-cache search boot-repair, nand it returned nothing
[21:01] <shiggitay> and*
[21:02] <bubbasaures> shiggitay, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:02] <shiggitay|Tablet> hello bodhi_zazen
[21:02] <bodhi_zazen> Hi shiggitay|Tablet
[21:03] <bodhi_zazen> you need to add the ppa
[21:03] <shiggitay> I just did
[21:03] <bodhi_zazen> apt-get update && apt-get install boot-repair
[21:04] <bodhi_zazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:04] <shiggitay> yep working on it
[21:05] <skinux> Having a problem playing DVD. I had a DVD running using VLC, but it stopped working and I had to restart to get it to see discs again. Now, movie stopped in the middle and restarting doesn't work. Neither VLC nor MPLayer seem to be able to see there is a movie in the drive.
[21:07] <bodhi_zazen> skinux, could be any number of problems, any error message?
[21:07] <Dondopa> Ok
[21:07] <Dondopa> That did not solve the problem for me
[21:08] <Dondopa> Would it be ok if I gave him a debian package of wine that is meant for debian sid OS?
[21:08] <skinux> VLC was showing a movie, but saying it could not open it. However, now it doesn't show the movie at all.
[21:08] <Dondopa> http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/
[21:08] <bekks> Dondopa: No.
[21:08] <Dondopa> aptoncd doesnt work.
[21:08] <Dondopa> I cannot even open it
[21:08] <Dondopa> I cannot find it
[21:08] <bekks> Dondopa: Mixing packages for different distros will cause issues.
[21:09] <Dondopa> Damn there must be some easy wa to get a setup file for wine for the guy to use
[21:09] <Ace2race> is my wifi card compatable with aircrack-ng... its  a Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[21:09] <Ace2race> i cant find anything about it and aircrack
[21:11] <Dondopa> Ok i am gonna  take a chance with the debian sid packages since Ubuntu has no easy way to just give me all the debian packages so that he can install it offline.
[21:11] <Dondopa> He wants to play unreal tournament 99
[21:11] <Dondopa> UT99 works flawlessly in wine
[21:11] <Dondopa> just click on the executable and it runs perfectly.
[21:11] <bekks> Dondopa: Mixing packages for different distros will cause issues.
[21:11] <Dondopa> it may cause issues but at least he will be able to play the game
[21:11] <Dondopa> It is just one windows ap[ hewants to work
[21:12] <Dondopa> And I have no alternatives right now
[21:12] <Dondopa> And hewill be here soon
[21:12] <junior> qe onda
[21:12] <skinux> Now, when I click Disc in VLC, it appears to be looking for a disc, but doesn't say if it has found one or not. (looking at debug info)
[21:12] <bekks> Dondopa: Then just wait until he arrives and do not mess up his Ubuntu.
[21:12] <junior> de donde soorfurhsirsirs
[21:12] <junior> urrrrrrrrhfihirs
[21:12] <junior> duruursknrus
[21:12] <junior> bdrbfyurbiyfbr
[21:13] <Dondopa> Wait until he arrives with what?
[21:13] <Dondopa> He has a desktop computer
[21:13] <Dondopa> Travelling so many miles is not feasible
[21:13] <Dondopa> with thedesktop
[21:13] <Dondopa> I asked for a simple solution to just get al lthe debian packages and just install em like you would on windows likesetup files
[21:14] <Dondopa> and that is becoming a game of splitting cunt hairs
[21:14] <Dondopa> So I will see you later.
[21:14] <Dondopa> Goodbye
[21:14] <bubbasaures> !language | Dondopa
[21:14] <bubbasaures> this is a world wide channel no age limitation'
[21:15] <Seveas> bubbasaures: I thought freenode TOS does say 13+?
[21:16] <bubbasaures> may be just a point on keeping it clean, what a stupid thing for them to say any way
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> bubbasaures, they will break ubuntu and then curse us all ;p
[21:16] <bubbasaures> in any context
[21:16] <bubbasaures> true
[21:19] <arun> guys, how to on the virtualbox to view the graphical plymouth theme instead of text based?
[21:19] <bekks> arun: you dont need any special settings.
[21:19] <arun> bekks: it doesn't show
[21:20] <bekks> arun: did you try on physical hardware yet?
[21:21] <arun> bekks: yes, works on physical not in vbox
[21:21] <shiggitay> blah my tablet crashed when trying to set up 'pastebinit'
[21:22] <lotuspsychje> arun: wich ubuntu version are you trying to virtualbox?
[21:22] <bekks> arun: you said you customized that installation medium - did you try on physical hardware too?
[21:22] <arun> lotuspsychje: 14.0.1
[21:23] <arun> bekks: naah... not the customized only...Ubuntu itself doesn't
[21:23] <bekks> arun: And why is plymouth vita to be working in a virtual machine?
[21:23] <lotuspsychje> arun: maybe virtualbox doesnt recognize grafix card?
[21:24] <shiggitay> aannnd bodhi_zazen boot repair is installed
[21:25] <arun> guys, http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-12-26_03_07_20-82I2eCSw.png
[21:25] <bekks> arun: Thats plymouth, on your screenshot.
[21:26] <shiggitay|Tablet> bodhi_zazen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9619761/
[21:26] <lotuspsychje> arun: that looks like grafix card issue, with trouble ubuntu text loading
[21:26] <arun> bekks: its not the one which shows in physical..
[21:26] <lotuspsychje> arun: that happens also on old systems, installing ubuntu
[21:26] <arun> lotuspsychje: any way to fix it? need to install drivers?
[21:26] <bekks> arun: And why is that important? I am trying to understand the actual issue behind that.
[21:27] <arun> bekks: cause, I wanna test plymouths
[21:27] <lotuspsychje> arun: what kind of grafix card you got?
[21:27] <shiggitay|Tablet> bodhi_zazen, ?
[21:28] <bekks> lotuspsychje: in vbox he gets a vbox emulated GPU.
[21:28] <bekks> arun: And you want to test for physical installs?
[21:29] <bodhi_zazen> shiggitay, looking
[21:29] <shiggitay|Tablet> kk
[21:29] <lotuspsychje> bekks: that would explane the blur dots indeed
[21:29] <shiggitay|Tablet> bodhi_zazen, I extracted my windows iso's files onto mmcblk0p4
[21:29] <shiggitay|Tablet> would I need to make an efi partition for that partition?
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> shiggitay, I do not see a windows installation
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> you have to install windows
[21:30] <bekks> lotuspsychje: I still dont get whats so vital about those dots :) How are they expected to look like?
[21:31] <shiggitay|Tablet> indeed... I'm trying to install windows from mmcblk0p4, which contains the contents of a Windows install ISO @ bodhi_zazen
[21:31] <bekks> shiggitay|Tablet: you cant install Windows from a SD card.
[21:31] <bekks> shiggitay|Tablet: Thats simply not supported :)
[21:32] <bodhi_zazen> shiggitay|Tablet, I am noot sure you can do that with grub, and you would need to ask on a windows support forum
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> bekks: with the ubuntu logo right above the text is normal loading
[21:32] <shiggitay|Tablet> would they know enough about grub?
[21:33] <bekks> shiggitay|Tablet: They will tell you the same: you cannot install windows from a sd card.
[21:33] <aldian> SchrodingersScat: that page is awfully outdated. FYI i found out that all I needed was to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades et set prompt to normal.
[21:33] <bodhi_zazen> probably not, but they would know how to boot windows w/o grub
[21:33] <prometheus2020> ?
[21:33] <bekks> lotuspsychje: So basically just the logo is missing?
[21:33] <arun> lotuspsychje: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e32] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> bekks: http://linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Ubuntu-Bootscreen.png
[21:33] <shiggitay|Tablet> I guess I'll use the Windows 7 USB thing
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> bekks: i guess thats what he wanted to prove
[21:34] <bekks> arun: thats your physical hardware. Compare it lspci | grep VGA from inside the VM.
[21:34] <shiggitay|Tablet> using a Windows XP VM heh
[21:35] <Junka> how can i see what filesystem i have
[21:36] <zykotick9> Junka: try "mount" in a terminal
[21:36] <arun> lotuspsychje: so, I'll need to install latest driver for it?
[21:36] <bekks> Junka: Just take a look at "mount"
[21:37] <Junka> thanks zykotick9 bekks
[21:37] <bekks> arun: Inside your VM, you do NOT have that Intel GPU.
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> arun: no, its like bekks says, its a virtual gpu
[21:37] <bekks> arun: And using virtualbox, your screenshot looks perfectly normal
[21:38] <arun> bekks: nope, I want the real graphical to work under the booting...
[21:38] <arun> *sorry plymouth
[21:38] <lotuspsychje> EriC^: morning :p
[21:38] <bekks> arun: Thats not possible using vbox
[21:38] <arun> bekks: it is
[21:38] <bekks> arun: Then prove it.
[21:39] <sahildcoder> hi
[21:39] <lotuspsychje> sahildcoder: welcome
[21:39] <bekks> arun: The hardware seen by plymouth is different, and merely supported by plymouth. You will not get the same capabilities like on your physical hardware.
[21:39] <sahildcoder> I am new to open source
[21:40] <sahildcoder> could anyone guide me how to proceed
[21:40] <arun> bekks: check the plymouth in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXPFi_8U1Xs
[21:40] <lotuspsychje> sahildcoder: do you have ubuntu?
[21:40] <sahildcoder> yes
[21:40] <sahildcoder> 14.04
[21:40] <lotuspsychje> !manual | sahildcoder
[21:40] <space_llama> sahildcoder: Proceed with what?
[21:40] <sahildcoder> I want to contribute to open source society
[21:40] <sahildcoder> so need help in that
[21:40] <lotuspsychje> sahildcoder: develope?
[21:41] <sahildcoder> yes
[21:41] <lotuspsychje> sahildcoder: join #ubuntu-devel
[21:41] <sahildcoder> ok
[21:41] <arun> bekks:  http://youtu.be/SXPFi_8U1Xs?t=2m27s
[21:41] <lotuspsychje> sahildcoder: the #ubuntu-touch guys also looking good helping too
[21:41] <sahildcoder> thank u
[21:42] <Novice201y_> Hello. Is there IDE for Ubuntu that works with .net 4.5.1?
[21:43] <EriC^_> lotuspsychje: morning :D
[21:43] <bekks> arun: Ask the "Chitwanix OS" support on how they did it. Thats not Ubuntu.
[21:44] <arun> bekks: dude.... nope, that was not done my chitwanix team, it was done by the video maker guy
[21:44] <bekks> arun: Using "Chitwanix OS", not "Ubuntu".
[21:45] <arun> bekks: I am using ubuntu
[21:45] <bekks> arun: But the guy in the video isnt :)
[21:45] <arun> bekks: Chitwanix is a derivative of Ubuntu
[21:45] <bekks> arun: And entirely not supported in here.
[21:45] <arun> and I am the developer of it be be honest
[21:46] <Novice201y__> Hello. Is there IDE for Ubuntu that works with .net 4.5.1?
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> Novice201y__: maybe check software centre for the IDE section
[21:46] <arun> Novice201y_: may be not
[21:47] <OerHeks> !ide
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: tnx
[21:47] <Novice201y__> arun, I know there is Xamarin but it's oriented toward WM, not ASP.net and other backend themes.
[21:47] <bekks> Novice201y__: Your only chance is some Mono IDE.
[21:47] <arun> ohh ok Novice201y__
[21:56] <ararob> is it worth to make a switch from xubuntu to lubuntu?
[21:57] <lotuspsychje> ararob: does your xubuntu not run smooth?
[21:57] <bubbasaures> ararob, Try both and see which you like.
[21:57] <sapilanang> how-to switch withour reinstalling ?
[21:58] <ararob> lotuspsychje, i've got a shitty laptop from 2008 runs fine with it, but if i can make it even faster, why not
[21:58] <bubbasaures> desktop can be individually installed and chosen at login
[21:58] <ararob> yeah.. i'll give it a try then
[21:58] <lotuspsychje> ararob: you can tweak your xubuntu faster also, if you dont have worse grafix
[21:58] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | ararob
[21:59] <lotuspsychje> ararob: disable unwanted startup items, clean system with bleachbit
[22:00] <ararob> lotuspsychje, i'd say the only thing i don't like is startup time, althogh it's fast, winxp is still abit faster.
[22:00] <ararob> i look at process manager, and i see 150 processes
[22:00] <lotuspsychje> ararob: preload, and textbased boot might be help a bit
[22:01] <lotuspsychje> ararob: startup only system services you really need, like CUPS disable etc
[22:01] <ararob> yeah
[22:02] <lotuspsychje> ararob: i use 'quiet splash' disabled myself, in grub
[22:02] <lotuspsychje> ararob: change to ""
[22:02] <ararob> ok
[22:03] <ararob> this should show me what's going on on startup?
[22:03] <lotuspsychje> ararob: yes textbased boot
[22:03] <sapilanang> wow that slow hah ..
[22:04] <ararob> sleep time.
[22:15] <Pingless> evening all; I'm utterly failing to run a program as root on startup. It's sitting in /usr/lib, and I've tried adding it tor rc.local and creating an upstart script for it - both with no success. Does anyone have any pointers on how to do this?
[22:16] <rypervenche> Pingless: Can you provide us with more information as to what you are trying to run?
[22:16] <EriC^_> Pingless: what's the program do, why's it sitting in /usr/lib?
[22:16] <antones97> can anyone help me with change my username?
[22:17] <antones97> or can someone tell me if they can see where im from by the username
[22:17] <antones97> ?
[22:17] <ikonia> antones97: create a new user, delete the old one
[22:17] <Pingless> rypervenche, EriC^_: I've got a Lenovo Yoga Pro 2. Its orientation-based screen rotation doesn't work, so I found this repo: https://github.com/pfps/yoga-laptop
[22:17] <jatt> antones97: they?
[22:17] <jatt> antones97: who?
[22:17] <Pingless> building the screen/ folder installed an executable called "orientation" in /usr/lib
[22:17] <rypervenche> antones97: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/change_username
[22:18] <enchilado> antones97: are you talking about your IRC username?
[22:18] <ikonia> Pingless: does it work if you run it manually ?
[22:18] <Pingless> yes
[22:18] <antones97> Yes
[22:18] <ikonia> Pingless: is it a foreground or background daemon ?
[22:18] <ikonia> Pingless: or is it an on demand binary
[22:18] <Pingless> ikonia: yes, running it manually from the console produces a pile of what looks like debug output, and it behaves correctly
[22:19] <enchilado> antones97: your hostname is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and your ircname is "ants"
[22:19] <ikonia> Pingless: when you run it from the console, do you get a command prompt back, or does it just spew stuff into the terminal until you quit it
[22:19] <antones97> enchilado: yes!
[22:19] <Pingless> ikonia: the latter
[22:19] <ikonia> Pingless: so thats probably why you're having problems, it's running as a daemon, you can't just run it the same from the command line as you would as an init job
[22:19] <antones97> enchilado: how do i change the hostname like everyone else?
[22:20] <Pingless> ikonia: would you mind elaborating a little? I'm quite comfortable with command line stuff, but I'm hazy on the concept of daemons
[22:20] <Flannel> !cloak | antones97
[22:20] <ikonia> Pingless: easy way, manually test your init script - get that working, then deal how to make it "headless" and run at boot time
[22:25] <Pingless> ikonia: OK so simply shoving /usr/bin/orientation into rc.local and running that works
[22:25] <Pingless> how would you recommend I proceed to make it headless and run at boot?
[22:28] <ikonia> Pingless: how are you verifying it works ?
[22:29] <Pingless> sudo /etc/rc.local
[22:29] <ikonia> Pingless: so thats actually run at boot time as the last thing
[22:29] <ikonia> Pingless: so does that work at boot time ?
[22:30] <Pingless> will that work even if it never terminates?
[22:30] <ikonia> thats going to be the problem
[22:30] <ikonia> you'll need to background it
[22:30] <ikonia> the other thing to consider is, is this meant to be a userspace program ?
[22:31] <Pingless> ikonia: I don't believe so. It seems like it's intended to be run in the background
[22:34] <Pingless> ikonia: This file (from the readme) mentions that the program is installed in /usr/bin, and mentions how to send it commands via pkill, but never mentions setting it up as a daemon
[22:34] <Pingless> https://github.com/pfps/yoga-laptop/blob/master/docs/Orientation%20and%20rotation
[22:34] <ikonia> Pingless: background it, or look at it's arguments for daemon mode
[22:35] <Pingless> ikonia: I've double-checked, and it definitely doesn't have any daemon arguments
[22:36] <VimFleed> Hello
[22:36] <Pingless> ikonia: What's my best option for backgrounding it?
[22:36] <ikonia> nohup and &
[22:36] <betehess_> hi, I have a MacBookPro with Ubuntu 14.04, with 3 encrypted partitions. I am not able to boot the system. I get the grub menu, then the next screen is black with a cursor in the upper left corner
[22:36] <ikonia> or just &
[22:37] <betehess_> I can't do anything from here...      Any idea?
[22:37] <ikonia> don't encypt the disk
[22:37] <ikonia> get it working
[22:37] <bubbasaures> betehess_, fresh install?
[22:37] <ikonia> then re-doit with encyption
[22:37] <ikonia> walk before running
[22:37] <betehess_> it was working ok for like 3 days, then just started doing that
[22:37] <Pingless> ikonia: if I use & in rc.local, is there any way to see the output when it's run? To see why it's not working?
[22:37] <ikonia> betehess_: ok, so what happened in the 3 days
[22:37] <betehess_> ikonia, I need encryption because of my company
[22:38] <ikonia> Pingless: redirect output ?
[22:38] <bubbasaures> betehess_, You use any proprietary graphic drivers in ubuntu?
[22:38] <shadaloo> hello
[22:38] <betehess_> ikonia, I had just installed docker and restarted
[22:38] <betehess_> there was no update in that session
[22:38] <ikonia> betehess_: what did docker update in the system
[22:38] <shadaloo> i installed ubuntu to a usb drive
[22:38] <ikonia> how did you install it ?
[22:39] <betehess_> bubbasaures, nothing special, that's a very standard install
[22:39] <betehess_> ikonia: to my knowledge, nothing
[22:39] <ikonia> betehess_: well it must have done
[22:39] <a_> hey linuxers
[22:39] <ikonia> betehess_: you've installed software, that is a change in itself
[22:39] <ikonia> hence why I'm asking how did you install it
[22:39] <bubbasaures> betehess_, I had docker do this in the development 15.04 here was very strange.
[22:40] <bubbasaures> didn't debug it though
[22:40] <betehess_> ikonia, I had the very same problem last week, it was the same kind of install, but got stuck before I installed docker that time. I didn't know what to do and just reinstalled
[22:40] <shadaloo> after booting ubuntu 14 from a usbdrive on my laptop (VGA) my desktop (HDMI) display is no longer recognized and I cannot boot into the login screen
[22:40] <betehess_> but same problem again
[22:40] <shadaloo> any suggestions for a quick fix?
[22:40] <ikonia> betehess_: ok, so working through that problem would be key
[22:40] <betehess_> ikonia, yes
[22:40] <rypervenche> betehess_: It might be a good idea to manually open the luks device and find what was installed in your apt log files. Maybe something from the term.log or history.log will give us some more information.
[22:40] <betehess_> I am kinda stuck right now
[22:40] <ikonia> betehess_: so boot if you can into single user mode
[22:40] <betehess_> I only get access to grub
[22:41] <ikonia> betehess_: or start again, and pay attention to what's happening on your system
[22:41] <Jeeves_Moss> what is the command to look for a string within files in a directory recursivly?
[22:41] <ikonia> grep -r
[22:41] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, At the choice menu of try or install or test the dic or memory hit f6 and choose nomodeset
[22:41] <Jeeves_Moss> ikonia, so grep -ri <string> /<path?
[22:41] <ikonia> Jeeves_Moss: that will work
[22:41] <bubbasaures> disc* err
[22:41] <Jeeves_Moss> ikonia, thanks.
[22:41] <shadaloo> bubbasaures: sounds good will give it a go
[22:42] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, should tell you the boot from there I think it is ctrl-x
[22:43] <betehess_> ikonia, in recovery mode, it blocks on: node #0, CPUs: #1
[22:43] <ikonia> sounds like a kernel panic
[22:43] <ikonia> betehess_: how did you install docker
[22:43] <betehess_> huh
[22:43] <betehess_> ikonia: just added the ppa, and apt-get install. didn't even run it
[22:43] <ikonia> betehess_: there we go then
[22:44] <ikonia> unsupported PPA
[22:44] <ikonia> (I'll bet)
[22:44] <betehess_> ikonia: last time, I had the very same problem, no docker involved
[22:44] <ikonia> betehess_: then you need to know what those packages where
[22:44] <betehess_> and same thing: nothing special happened
[22:44] <betehess_> ok, can try to boot with a key
[22:44] <ikonia> boot with a key ?
[22:45] <betehess_> ikonia, the live cd
[22:45] <ikonia> why ?
[22:45] <ikonia> what are you planning to do ?
[22:46] <shadaloo> bubbasaures: I'm at the grub2 menu (hold shift at boot) and pressing f6 does not do anything
[22:46] <shadaloo> I think I misunderstood you
[22:46] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, This an install or a live boot, I read that as a install.
[22:46] <bubbasaures> sorrey live boot
[22:46] <shadaloo> bubbasaures: it's an install on a USBdrive
[22:47] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, A full install, or you have loaded grub than the iso?
[22:47] <betehess_> ikonia: only way to inspect the last logs from the encrypted partitions
[22:47] <ikonia> betehess_: what last logs ?
[22:47] <shadaloo> bubbasaures: it's a full install
[22:47] <ikonia> what logs are you going to look at ?
[22:47] <betehess_> ikonia: didn't you tell me to inspect what packages were installed?
[22:47] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, Anyway at grub it is e for edit than replace quiet splash with nomodeset
[22:47] <ikonia> betehess_: the previous time when it broke
[22:48] <ikonia> betehess_: this time I think you can be confident it's docked/dependencies
[22:48] <shadaloo> bubbasaures: thanks will give it a shot
[22:48] <betehess_> ikonia: I really doubt it :-)
[22:48] <ikonia> betehess_: why do you doubt it ?
[22:49] <betehess_> ikonia: because it's the very same problem than last week, which didn't involve docker, and last time as well, I didn't do anything special
[22:49] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, cool, here's the bot link on this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[22:49] <ikonia> betehess_: but you have no idea what the packages where last time or what they changed
[22:50] <ikonia> betehess_: this one has a kernel panic/lock up on cpu, which is normally caused by packages (kernel/libc/something) moving outside the supported range
[22:50] <betehess_> ikonia: last time, I had not installed anything during the session before I shutdowned the laptop
[22:50] <ikonia> as the docker ppa will pull in later versions of the packages for dependencies, and maybe even do a kernel update, it's reasonable
[22:50] <ikonia> betehess_: you said you had this exact same problem installing different packages
[22:50] <ikonia> betehess_: now you say you installed nothing
[22:51] <betehess_> ikonia: then I wasn't clear, sorry for the confusion
[22:51] <ikonia> look at the boot process see what the last thing before the lock up was
[22:51] <ikonia> then you can see what it's being caused
[22:51] <betehess_> ikonia: last time I reinstalled quickly cause I needed a working system
[22:51] <betehess_> ikonia: what log files are better to look at?
[22:56] <betehess_> ikonia: now that I think about it, I won't find anything in the logs because I am not even prompted for my passphrase to unlock the / partition
[22:58] <a_> Tell me, Ubuntu; why should I use you and not something else?
[22:59] <jatt> try it, decide yourself
[23:04] <dts|pokeball> whats the ubuntu so site?
[23:05] <hadifarnoud> this alias is supposed to give me numerical permission
[23:05] <hadifarnoud> alias lso="ls -alG | awk '{k=0;for(i=0;i<=8;i++)k+=((substr(\$1,i+2,1)~/[rwx]/)*2^(8-i));if(k)printf(\" %0o \",k);print}'"
[23:05] <hadifarnoud> it's giving me the wrong number. for example, if permission is 775, it shows me 765
[23:05] <EriC^_> hadifarnoud: wow
[23:06] <hadifarnoud> EriC^_: what?
[23:06] <jatt> hadifarnoud: stat <file>
[23:06] <EriC^_> nothing i thought you meant the uid of the owner
[23:07] <hadifarnoud> no EriC^_. it's standard ls command with numerical permission
[23:07] <EriC^_> hadifarnoud: jatt is right! stat would have it there for you
[23:07] <hadifarnoud> yeah, but doesn't work quite as ls
[23:08] <hadifarnoud> I want to see it for all files in a directory EriC^_ jatt
[23:08] <Zarthus> ls is meant to be read by humans :|
[23:08] <jatt> hadifarnoud: stat -c%a <file>
[23:08] <EriC^_> hadifarnoud: so for i in ..; do stat ...; done
[23:09] <jatt> hadifarnoud: ls | xargs -i stat -c%a \{\}
[23:09] <hadifarnoud> jatt: that works, except the filenames are missing
[23:09] <EriC^_> hadifarnoud: echo it before each maybe
[23:09] <jatt> hadifarnoud: man stat (%c option) :-)
[23:10] <hadifarnoud> cheers, will figure it out
[23:12] <str> Hi everyone!
[23:13] <str> If I want to make an image of a disk, should I do dd if=/sdx  or dd if=/sdx1 ?
[23:14] <bekks> str: Neither nor, since both approaches are wrong.
[23:14] <str> bekks, why are they wrong?
[23:14] <bekks> str: Do you want to create a disk image or a partition image?
[23:15] <str> bekks, I'm confused, that's why I'm asking. I think I want to do a partition image
[23:15] <str> but I'm not sure
[23:15] <bekks> str: What are you trying to do?
[23:16] <hadifarnoud> jatt: I just got one issue, how can I space them out?
[23:16] <hadifarnoud> ls | xargs -i stat -c%a%G%U%n \{\}
[23:17] <bekks> hadifarnoud: Space what out?
[23:17] <str> bekks, I bouth an SDD which comes with a some files and I'm not sure not interested in knowing the partition type, so I cant to make an image of them to restore them later if I need them.
[23:17] <hadifarnoud> bekks: all -c parameters are printed out next to each other without any space between them
[23:17] <hadifarnoud> just try ls | xargs -i stat -c%a%G%U%n \{\}
[23:17] <bekks> str: Why dont you just create an archive of those files?
[23:18] <EriC^_> hadifarnoud: ls | xargs -i stat -c"%a %G %U %n" \{\}
[23:19] <str> bekks, because I don't know if the sdd has some boot options or anything special.. that's why I was uisng dd, I don't care what it is, just creare an image of the card and store it to restore it later.
[23:19] <hadifarnoud> cheers EriC^_
[23:19] <EriC^_> hadifarnoud: it's kind of confusing you have the group before the owner, anwyays up to you
[23:19] <EriC^_> hadifarnoud: no problem
[23:19] <hadifarnoud> good point EriC^_
[23:20] <bekks> str: It doesnt have anything magical.
[23:29] <darkm_> Is there anyone that used FreeGate on ubuntu ?
[23:30] <daftykins> never heard of it, but if you explain your actual question someone might reply
[23:30] <bekks> darkm_: Maybe an actual question will be more targetting :)
[23:31] <FergusL> hello, anybody used the mail-stack-delivery package ? dovecot configuration looks almost fresh, everything is commented out
[23:31] <darkm_> FreeGate is a proxy for cencorship That's for windows, i wanna know if i can use it on ubuntu. the good thing about it, is it's speed. and if i can't use it on ubuntu please give me a name of a good free proxy that is as Fast, thank you
[23:32] <smaudet> Hey all, I know my answer won't be answered here, looking for direction - the ubuntu packages (launchpad) contain some canon printer drivers - I'm trying to install my canon 472 but I'm having a difficult time compiling these packages...so I'm looking for help/the package maintainer
[23:32] <smaudet> canon mx472 specifically
[23:32] <daftykins> darkm_: then likely no. sorry, but using something windows of that nature is highly unlikely and unsupported here
[23:33] <darkm_> daftykins, even if i want to use it on ubuntu ?
[23:34] <daftykins> darkm_: well it's not going to work natively is it, so no
[23:34] <darkm_> Then anyone know of a good and fast proxy for ubuntu ?
[23:34] <darkm_> and Free
[23:35] <bekks> darkm_: squid
[23:35] <daftykins> i think you're after something like TOR, in which case no, no ideas.
[23:35] <darkm_> bekks,it's work for cencorship ?
[23:36] <bekks> darkm_: It is a proxy server.
[23:36] <darkm_> bekks , is it gonna work for the matter of cencorship ?
[23:38] <bekks> darkm_: It works as a proxy server. Whats teh difference between "a proxy server" and "a proxy server for censorship"?
[23:38] <darkm_> bekks , :) thank you
[23:39] <Cogito4816> Hey, all.  Is there a surefire way to get all BDs to work on Ubuntu?
[23:40] <March0514s> Hello everyone!
[23:40] <Cogito4816> Or is that just a pipe dream
[23:40] <Cogito4816> Hi, March0514s
[23:40] <Cogito4816> Happy Holidays to everyone, btw
[23:40] <March0514s> I'm curious about some info I heard, and can't find anything on the web...
[23:41] <March0514s> Is it true that Ubuntu records everything I type?
[23:41] <March0514s> In a way that it can be found through forensics?
[23:41] <bekks> No.
[23:41] <daftykins> Cogito4816: menuless playback can be had by installing makemkv and substituting some libraries, followed by using a capable player.
[23:42] <space_llama> March0514s: No. It does not.
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> March0514s  system settings > security & privacy
[23:42] <Cogito4816> daftykins, I tried that.  I had installed MakeMKV some time ago, and now the trial period is over.  I attempted to download the latest BETA version, but either couldn't find the right one, or that's no longer an option
[23:42] <space_llama> That's one of the lovely things about open source. That kind of stuff would make a hell of a fuss.
[23:43] <daftykins> Cogito4816: it's free until it goes final, check out their website. you need to insert a freely available license key
[23:43] <Cogito4816> Ohh
[23:43] <Cogito4816> Any idea when it wil go final?
[23:43] <Cogito4816> Also, is Canonical working on getting the keys for BDs?
[23:43] <daftykins> well then it'd be pay for still i think
[23:44] <daftykins> that's not what will make bluray playbac work
[23:44] <daftykins> *playback
[23:44] <Cogito4816> What is the issue?
[23:45] <Cogito4816> Also, daftykins, where do I find these license keys?
[23:45] <daftykins> Cogito4816: sorry i'm not browsing a site for you :)
[23:45] <daftykins> i've yet to actually do the license key thing for my install too, as i just got this working the other day
[23:45] <Cogito4816> No problem, dafty.  I'm looking around as we speak.  Just thought you might know
[23:46] <March0514s> well, thank you guys!
[23:46] <space_llama> No problem. Happy holidays :)
[23:46] <daftykins> cool :)
[23:46] <Cogito4816> I'll give you a link if I find it
[23:46] <March0514s> For you too
[23:46] <ikonia> why would he want a link ?
[23:46] <ikonia> you are the one who needs the key
[23:46] <Cogito4816> To where the keys
[23:46] <Cogito4816> He said he has yet to do it
[23:46] <daftykins> Cogito4816: well i don't know for sure as i'm not staff, nor in development, but i'd imagine it's just like DVD playback, technically it's not permitted and we're breaking the law playing one on Linux.
[23:46] <Cogito4816> So he will need it eventually
[23:47] <Cogito4816> Or so I assume
[23:47] <daftykins> ikonia: i use it too! :D
[23:47] <ikonia> ahhhh
[23:47] <daftykins> it wasn't able to work out playback on TV series of course, it just picks the longest episode or largest episode i think - but i'm sure film playback would be fine
[23:48] <Cogito4816> I think I may have found it
[23:50] <Cogito4816> daftykins, it's been a while since I did this.  In MakeMKV, I have to set it to stream, correct?  How do I receive that stream in VLC?  Do you know?
[23:50] <Cogito4816> Nvm, I found it
[23:50] <Cogito4816> Awesome!  I got it!
[23:50] <daftykins> i'm using it with XBMC so it's auto for me
[23:51] <Cogito4816> daftykins, you're awesome.  Thank you for the help
[23:52] <Cogito4816> daftykins: http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053
[23:53] <daftykins> no problemo, thanks for the link :>
[23:53] <daftykins> an equal trade!


[07:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:25] <IrcsomeBot2> anakit was added by: anakit
 My kubuntu is blank screen.but cursor is active
 @LuxoCrypto, Bump
[11:02] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[21:33] <Pinkerton> yo, uh, so, I'm trying to export a .png from Krita and it just won't give me the option
[21:33] <Pinkerton> It doesn't show up in the formats dropdown
[21:33] <Pinkerton> Just did apt install krita on Kubuntu Bionic
[21:33] <Pinkerton> No funny business that I am aware of
[21:33] <Pinkerton> am I missing something?
[21:34] <Pinkerton> I tried Google but as far as I can tell no one else has ever had this problem
[21:37] <bprompt> Pinkerton:   https://docs.krita.org/fr/tutorials/saving-for-the-web.html ?
[21:37] <Pinkerton> I have looked at this already
[21:37] <Pinkerton> The problem is PNG is not exposed as an option when I follow these directions.
[21:38] <Pinkerton> I can do JPG or pretty much anything else
[21:38] <Pinkerton> Just not PNG, weirdly
[21:38] <bprompt> hmmm I don't use Krita myself, mostly Gwenview
[21:38] <bprompt> Pinkerton:   has to be some feature, maybe a mask or need to be "flattened" or layer
[21:38] <Pinkerton> I have done this as well
[21:39] <genii> Are you using File->Export and not File->Save As ?
[21:42] <genii> It's conceivable you might need some additional graphics libraries for conversion to work, like libpng
[21:42] <Pinkerton> We figured it out in #krita
[21:43] <Pinkerton> The filetype selection dropdown doesn't respond to mousewheel input and the scrollbar is very unintrusive
[21:43] <Pinkerton> So I scrolled over it and mistakenly thought there were no options
[21:43] <Pinkerton> When I grabbed the scrollbar manually I was able to find it and it works as intended
[21:44] <Pinkerton> my bad guys
[21:44] <bprompt> hmmm all is well that ends well


[00:18]  * mwhudson afk for a bit
[01:57] <jbicha> slangasek: please consider ignoring test failures for current version of nemo & cinnamon-control-center
[01:57] <jbicha> their tests are failing because of https://bugs.debian.org/810866
[01:57] <jbicha> actually: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=868473
[02:15] <mwhudson> something in proposed breaks python-pydap really badly
[02:21] <mwhudson> or maybe it's just that the version of python-pydab in proposed is broken
[02:23] <mwhudson> can someone mark mash/1.1.1-2build1/armhf as badtest?
[02:24] <mwhudson> hm this is a bad timezone for finding release team people
[02:24] <mwhudson> infinity: around? or slangasek
[02:34] <slangasek> mwhudson: done
[02:34] <mwhudson> thanks
[02:34] <mwhudson> now looking at watchcatd which ftbfs from libevent changes?
[02:34] <slangasek> jbicha: sorry, no time to look at that right now
[02:35] <slangasek> mwhudson: yeah I asked rbalint about that earlier and he said he would look at it
[02:35] <mwhudson> oh ok
[02:36] <mwhudson> otherwise it seems to be ns3 (depends on gcc7 migrating to migrate?) and linux blocking the perl stuff?
[02:36] <slangasek> mwhudson: yeah more or less
[02:37] <mwhudson> ahh boo i got python-pydap/armhf to pass just too late for the last britney run
[02:37] <mwhudson> (for requests)
[05:03] <rbalint> slangasek: I've nmu-d watchcatd in Debian and now it builds
[05:16] <slangasek> rbalint: thanks.  Can you post the source so we can upload without waiting for LP to pick it up from Debian?
[05:17] <slangasek> (maybe not relevant since gcc-7 will be a while yet... so don't go to too much effort)
[05:42] <acheronuk> slangasek: did that test against qtwebengine fix on a retry? I see no regression there now
[05:42] <slangasek> acheronuk: it did
[05:42] <acheronuk> :)
[07:47] <cpaelzer> Hi I had a gating message on SRU phasing for the SRU on bug 1705132
[07:47] <cpaelzer> The case is checked, the bug updated for documentation and the SRU phasing should be ramped up again
[07:47] <cpaelzer> anyone here atm who can do so for me?
[08:04]  * mwhudson wtfs at the pytest-pylint autopkgtest failure
[08:11] <mwhudson> oh probably needs all-proposed=1
[08:20] <mwhudson> next: why dos udisks2 fail all the time on ppc64el
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: xchat (artful-proposed/primary) [2.8.8-8]
[09:25] <locutus_> good morning, mitya57 I'm copying manually stuff from silo (qt)
[09:26] <locutus_> if I understand correctly, we will need anyway to have them approved by an AA
[09:59] <apw> if the silo says you have stuff that means a new review, yes, it needs to be done before
[10:00] <locutus_> mm I don't understand the answer, sorry!
[10:00]  * locutus_ is trying to setup his BNC
[10:07] <apw> cpaelzer, i think i can do that ... do you know what level it had reached ?
[10:08] <cpaelzer> apw: yes the sru page states that
[10:08] <cpaelzer> 40% it was
[10:09] <cpaelzer> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html
[10:09] <cpaelzer> you set 60% now is that correct apw?
[10:10] <apw> i did not do anything yet
[10:10] <cpaelzer> hmm on the link I sent it is at 60% now
[10:11] <cpaelzer> it was at "0 formerly 40%" this morning still
[10:11] <cpaelzer> apw: maybe another sru member did that without updateing the bug or IRC?
[10:11] <apw> perhaps indeed
[10:11] <cpaelzer> apw: while I have your ear - might I ask if you are an archive admin as well?
[10:12] <locutus_> fortunately he is :)
[10:12] <cpaelzer> I'm looking for some attention to bug 1540323 for days (weeks actually)
[10:12] <cpaelzer> about removing src:ubuntu-virt
[10:13] <cpaelzer> If you can't look at that now I'm fine but if you'd have a hint how/where to ask better for attention that would be highly welcome
[10:13] <cpaelzer> I let the bug with AA subscribed for a few weeks and then pinged here, but I assume that tasks is a less fun one so people avoid it :-)
[10:14] <cpaelzer> locutus_: btw are freed from the borg now, what happened?
[10:14] <locutus_> [12:08:51] * LocutusOfBorg (LocutusOfB@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-nassxcdmfxswyxjt) has joined
[10:14] <locutus_> I just need to understand how to connect to that BNC
[10:14] <locutus_> you can't leave borg community
[10:14] <cpaelzer> umm there are examples ...
[10:15] <cpaelzer> anyway - if there is anything I can do better on the need for AA support please let me know
[10:15] <cpaelzer> leaving a while for lunch now
[10:15] <locutus_> indeed, some few examples
[10:18] <apw> cpaelzer, ok confirmed the archive thinks that is at 60% so we will ignore it
[10:23] <apw> cpaelzer, removed
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted courier-unicode [amd64] (artful-proposed) [2.0-1]
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted courier-unicode [armhf] (artful-proposed) [2.0-1]
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted courier-unicode [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [2.0-1]
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted debpaste-el [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.1.5-2]
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted courier-unicode [arm64] (artful-proposed) [2.0-1]
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted courier-unicode [s390x] (artful-proposed) [2.0-1]
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted courier-unicode [i386] (artful-proposed) [2.0-1]
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted xml-rpc-el [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.6.12-2]
[11:09] <cpaelzer> thank you apw
[12:36] <locutus_> lots of qt fails, nice
[12:38] <LocutusOfBorg> switch ended, now I'm using bnc :)
[12:38] <LocutusOfBorg> back to the borg community
[13:08] <tsimonq2> Qt 5.9.1 looks to be in -proposed \o/
[13:15] <LocutusOfBorg> I moved some transitions to finished, and boost to old
[13:15] <LocutusOfBorg> they were all at 100%
[13:16] <tsimonq2> mitya57: Should libqt5core5a have Provides: qtbase-abi-5-9-0 or Provides: qtbase-abi-5-9-1?
[13:16] <doko> ... further delaying the perl transition
[13:18] <fossfreedom_> tsimonq2: does QT 5.9 change in anyway how we style QT apps to look like GTK apps ? with QT 5.7 we had to use QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2
[13:18] <tsimonq2> fossfreedom_: imho GTK 2 apps look so much better under 5.9
[13:18] <tsimonq2> fossfreedom_: So yes, from what I can tell it does change things, but it's better than before :)
[13:19] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, qtwebengine? we can remove and let the previous one migrate
[13:20] <fossfreedom_> tsimonq2:  the same environment variable=value ?
[13:20] <LocutusOfBorg> it will take some hours to build so who cares?
[13:22] <tsimonq2> fossfreedom_: I'm running 5.9 here, let me test it out...
[13:25] <tsimonq2> fossfreedom_: Yep, same variable from what I can tell
[13:30] <sil2100> mwhudson, doko, slangasek: looking at the pyzmq autopkgtest failures, I think those need to be re-run with all proposed, since I see the python3 test dependencies pull in python3.5
[13:30] <sil2100> I'll give it a try
[13:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libvirt [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.3.1-1ubuntu10.13]
[13:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libvirt [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.2.2-0ubuntu13.1.21]
[13:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted logcheck [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.3.16ubuntu0.1]
[13:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted logcheck [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.3.17ubuntu0.1]
[13:42] <fossfreedom_> tsimonq2: thanks
[13:42] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, I did sync xchat from debian, because I think when a packages gets removed from artful it isn't autosyncd anymore, is this correct?
[13:44] <tsimonq2> fossfreedom_: np :)
[13:45] <tsimonq2> rbasak: poke on SRUs in bug 1133477 and bug 1708619 :)
[13:45] <rbasak> tsimonq2: ah, thanks. I'm processing SRUs at the moment. I'll take those ones next.
[13:46] <tsimonq2> rbasak: Thanks!
[13:46] <rbasak> gnome-flashback: GNOME Flashback application
[13:46] <rbasak> WTF kind of description is that?
[13:47] <tsimonq2> Is it... an application? A DE? O_o
[13:48] <rbasak> Looks like it has improved a little in Debian
[13:48] <rbasak> Description: helper application for the GNOME Flashback session
[13:48] <tsimonq2> oh gotcha
[13:49] <rbasak> Someone has been there before me: Debian bug 843143 :)
[13:57] <sil2100> pyyaml regressions seem to be transient, this should be good after rerun/ignore
[14:04] <rbasak> tsimonq2: wow. Thank you for driving this (gvfs; yet to look at the other).
[14:04] <slangasek> doko: hi, I see gcc-7/arm64 is building again; what happened to the first build?
[14:05] <LocutusOfBorg> I saw it kicked on some previous upload, I retried and it went fine
[14:05] <LocutusOfBorg> (I didn't touch it this time)
[14:08] <slangasek> sil2100: the pyzmq triggers I see in the queue from you don't have --all-proposed.  also, pyzmq is marked badtest already for the artful version, I'm going to update the hint
[14:08] <tsimonq2> rbasak: You're welcome. I hope the SRU docs are complete enough. ;)
[14:08] <sil2100> slangasek: ACK, I run it with all-proposed=1, thought it was correctly accepted by autopkgtests
[14:08] <slangasek> sil2100: as I mentioned yesterday, a script that analyzes update_excuses and makes recommendations of hints to bump would be helpful
[14:11] <rbasak> tsimonq2: still reading up. That's a good thing :)
[14:13] <tsimonq2> rbasak: :)
[14:13] <sil2100> slangasek: would be good to have something like that, is it on anyone's plate already?
[14:14] <sil2100> slangasek: oh, and I was wondering what's the better way of doing things - if I see some autopkgtest failure is transient or resolvable through all-proposed, should I just re-run or poke for someone to hint it in?
[14:14] <slangasek> sil2100: I don't think it's on anyone's plate, I asked for it out loud here yesterday for the first time
[14:15] <slangasek> sil2100: if it's transient and resolvable, I always prefer that we resolve it. but if the previous version has been hinted, we should check if the new version should also be hinted
[14:16] <sil2100> Ok, depending how my SRU shift later today goes I might glue up a quick script for that as you mentioned
[14:22] <rbasak> tsimonq2: indicator-sound-gtk2 should be <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, as <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu5 also exists in Xenial.
[14:23] <rbasak> To avoid future version string gymnastics if a Xenial SRU is needed.
[14:23] <tsimonq2> rbasak: oic
[14:24] <tsimonq2> rbasak: Ok, I'll need a sponsor to do another upload... want me to get another uploaded package correcting this or would you be able to do it?
[14:24] <rbasak> I'm taking a break, then have a meeting. I'll sort it, though it may be later.
[14:25] <tsimonq2> Ok.
[14:25] <tsimonq2> rbasak: Thanks!
[14:25] <rbasak> tsimonq2: the gvfs fix looks good to me superficially, though I think the surgery involved in the fix deserves a closer review which will take me more time. I'll look again later. Thank you again for driving both of these.
[14:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected indicator-sound-gtk2 [source] (zesty-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu5.1]
[14:28] <tsimonq2> rbasak: You're welcome, and yeah, it's quite a bit of surgery :P
[14:42] <ogra_> slangasek, sil2100 unless you are actually building 17.10 ubuntu core images i think the header on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/16/edge/current/ is wrong
[14:42]  * ogra_ just noticed ...
[14:42] <slangasek> ogra_: can you file a bug on ubuntu-cdimage please?
[14:47] <ogra_> slangasek, bug 1709644
[14:47] <slangasek> ogra_: ta
[15:06] <ahasenack> hi guys, the libvirt package has a remark about a freeze here: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/xenial/update_excuses.html
[15:06] <ahasenack> what is that about?
[15:06] <ahasenack> "Not touching package due to block request by freeze (contact #ubuntu-release if update is needed)"
[15:07] <nacc> ahasenack: update_excuses is not used for a released release
[15:07] <nacc> ahasenack: beyond a place to see the tests passed
[15:09] <ahasenack> so can I ignore that remark?
[15:09] <ahasenack> in this case (!artful)
[15:10] <slangasek> ahasenack: yes, all packages are "frozen" from the perspective of proposed-migration for SRUs
[15:10] <ahasenack> ok, got it
[15:10] <ahasenack> thanks
[15:11] <nacc> ahasenack: iirc, you want to use the SRU page itself to figure out the 'external' status
[15:11] <nacc> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[15:11] <nacc> external to yourself, that is
[15:14] <ahasenack> that doesn't confirm if the package is in proposed already or not
[15:14] <nacc> ahasenack: by version, it does?
[15:14] <nacc> there is a -proposed column
[15:15] <ahasenack> does that get updated when the package has finally landed in -proposed? When apt can see it?
[15:15] <slangasek> ahasenack: it is updated by cron, timestamp of the current report is at the top
[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-drivers-common [source] (zesty-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>]
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[16:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted indicator-sound-gtk2 [source] (zesty-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:29] <slangasek> Laney: it occurs to me that the only gcc-7 build we're waiting on is arm64, which we don't autopkgtest; so in principle we could trigger the autopkgtests for gcc-7 now if there was a sane entry point for this
[18:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mongodb (xenial-proposed/universe) [1:2.6.10-0ubuntu1 => 1:2.6.10-0ubuntu1.1] (mozilla)
[18:46] <slangasek> doko, Laney: ah, and I see the justification for using libreoffice as an autopkgtest for gcc-* is "and libreoffice as an example for a libgcc user."  maybe we should pick a user of libgcc whose tests are a bit more reliable?
[18:50] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: um why are you uploading the Qt5.9 transition on top of the perl transition?
[18:52] <slangasek> infinity: ping
[18:55] <slangasek> tsimonq2: hi
[19:00] <slangasek> tsimonq2, LocutusOfBorg: I have removed qtwebengine-opensource-src from -proposed and re-synced the version that was previously there.  The Qt5.9 transition MUST NOT start until the current perl+gcc transition is finished.
[19:58] <tsimonq2> slangasek: hi
[20:00] <slangasek> tsimonq2: hi, so I know we had talked about scheduling the Qt transition, but I guess we never explicitly communicated about the need to let the toolchain transition first?
[20:02] <tsimonq2> slangasek: I... didn't think the transitions would conflict... I also thought Perl was very close to being done if not done already and there would be no issue with doing Qt after GCC so that there were no unneeded uploads fixing things thay were already fixed in 5.9 when 5.9 lands shortly after
[20:02] <slangasek> tsimonq2: yeah, no; qtwebengine was already in -proposed and entangled because of libevent
[20:03] <slangasek> tsimonq2: I've used a blunt hammer to reset it so we can finish the perl transition, but it means qt bits might be ftbfs and otherwise broken for a little bit in -proposed until we finish
[20:04] <tsimonq2> slangasek: What did you do to reset it? Just curious
[20:04] <slangasek> tsimonq2: remove-package && copy-package -e $version --force-same-destination
[20:05] <tsimonq2> slangasek: No I mean which packages? I know the tooling
[20:05] <slangasek> tsimonq2: qtwebengine-opensource-src is the only one
[20:05] <slangasek> also, I didn't yet remove it hard enough, looks like I might have to kick some more binaries around
[20:06] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Ok, is qtwebengine the only one there was an issue with?
[20:06] <slangasek> yes
[20:08] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Ok, well if that's the only conflicting package and that has been dealt with, then what's the problem with continuing the Qt transition?
[20:09] <slangasek> tsimonq2: it's been dealt with by reverting that package in -proposed; I wouldn't think your transition will continue without it?
[20:10] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Yes it's a blocker, but it'll maybe take a few weeks to sort out all the failing KDE autopkgtests
[20:10] <tsimonq2> (and other tests)
[20:10] <slangasek> right
[20:11] <slangasek> there's no problem with all of that continuing
[20:11] <slangasek> but if there are other packages to be uploaded that currently have versions in -proposed that aren't migrating, please check first whether they're affected by the related transition
[20:11] <slangasek> and all of this should be a moot point in a day, I hope
[20:12] <slangasek> if it's not, I will become progressively grumpier ;)
[20:12] <tsimonq2> slangasek: So then is there ETA for the GCC transition? (days, weeks, months?)
[20:12] <slangasek> tsimonq2: as soon as gcc-7/arm64 finishes and the kernel is ready to migrate.
[20:13] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Oh, so a week or two barring no serious issues, is that estimate off?
[20:13] <slangasek> tsimonq2: see above, if this stretches out more than another day it's because things have gone wrong.
[20:14] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Oh, gotcha.
[20:15] <tsimonq2> slangasek: And yeah, now I know to be more careful when landing transitions (i.e. check all of that before asking a sponsor (eventually me, myself, and I) to land a transition)
[20:17] <tsimonq2> slangasek: But it would have been nice to know all of this when I asked about a good time for the Qt transition. I think I might have asked multiple times and but gotten no definitive answer as to why I shouldn't have continued...
[20:17] <tsimonq2> But eh, we're already past that.
[20:20] <slangasek> tsimonq2: sure; as far as I understood you were still blocked waiting on some of the unity removals so I wasn't explicit about the need to wait for perl+gcc+libevent+libwebp+net-snmp
[20:21] <tsimonq2> slangasek: ack
[20:23] <bdmurray> tjaalton: Can you update your copy of ubuntu-archive-tools so bugs receive the new verification-needed-$release tag?
[20:57] <tjaalton> bdmurray: oops, sure..
[20:59] <bdmurray> tjaalton: thanks!
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[05:23] <vigo> morning
[07:23] <tsdgeos> Mirv: did we ship a qt update with some new qdbusmenu stuff?
[07:29] <Mirv> tsdgeos: yes, bug #1620870 if your next question is
[07:29] <tsdgeos> interesting
[07:30] <tsdgeos> because quassel is not crashing for me :D
[07:30] <Mirv> I tested transmission and qtcreator, not sure what mitya tested
[07:30] <Mirv> tsdgeos: xenial overlay or yakkety?
[07:30] <tsdgeos> yakkety
[07:30] <Mirv> huh. ok I'll boot up my yakkety then.
[07:31] <Mirv> tsdgeos: ok, let me then ask "what's up?" :)
[07:31] <tsdgeos> konsole is crashing
[07:31] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23144852/
[07:31] <Mirv> tsdgeos: do you btw have appmenu-qt5 installed or not, and can you check if it affects anything?
[07:32] <tsdgeos> i do not have it
[07:32] <Mirv> tsdgeos: update that bug with your findings, we'll need mitya57 probably to look at his patches once more.
[07:32] <Mirv> ok
[07:32] <Mirv> tsdgeos: you could even try if the crashes go away if you install it
[07:35] <tsdgeos> Mirv: nah doesn't work
[07:35] <Mirv> tsdgeos: yeah just interested since these upstream patches replace the functionality that was used to be provided by appmenu-qt5
[07:36] <tsdgeos> i'll ping ecluod
[07:36] <Mirv> the bug #1612767 is what's being fixed/debugged here
[07:36] <tsdgeos> i think he heplped doing the patches
[07:36] <Mirv> ok, great
[17:29] <mterry> One more infographic refresh/color change if anyone wants an easy review: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/infographic-white/+merge/305128


[12:22] <kelkoobenoitr> hello. I have my first source package uploaded and building nicely in launchpad for precise (i386/amd64)
[12:23] <kelkoobenoitr> now i want to tell launchpad to build it for quantal
[12:25] <kelkoobenoitr> i have been told (by xnox) yesterday to add a new changelog, that should create a new dsc and then dput it.
[12:25] <kelkoobenoitr> here is what i did:
[12:26] <kelkoobenoitr> dch -v 0.3.1-3 (with the same version number as the precise version)
[12:26] <kelkoobenoitr> debuild -us -uc
[12:26] <kelkoobenoitr> debuild -S -sa
[12:27] <kelkoobenoitr> dput ppa:name/package package_0.3.1-3_source.changes
[12:27] <kelkoobenoitr> and i got this message:
[12:27] <kelkoobenoitr> Package has already been uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net
[12:27] <kelkoobenoitr> Nothing more to do for slowmovideo_0.3.1-3_source.changes
[12:28] <kelkoobenoitr> What am i doing wrong ?
[12:28] <kelkoobenoitr> or how should i tell launchpad to build my package for quantal
[12:32] <StevenK> kelkoobenoitr: The same version number will cause it to be rejected
[12:32] <kelkoobenoitr> so i should give different versions if i want to release the code for precise and quantal ?
[12:33] <kelkoobenoitr> like 0.3.1-3~precise1 and 0.3.1-3~quantal1 ?
[12:34] <StevenK> Yes
[12:35] <kelkoobenoitr> thx
[12:37] <xnox> kelkoobenoitr: also that error message was from dput arguing that it noticed a ".upload" file. You can remove it, or pass --force to dput. Then it would be uploaded to the PPA, but rejected if there is same version in the ppa already.
[12:38] <kelkoobenoitr> ok thx
[14:09] <petrus_>  i have a poor performance on ubuntu gnome 13.04
[14:09] <petrus_> my laptop uses optimus graphics
[14:09] <petrus_> installed nvidia bumbleebee but did't reconized nvidia
[14:10] <czajkowski> petrus_: this isn't a support area for ubuntu
[14:10] <petrus_> ah nederlands hier
[14:10] <czajkowski> petrus_: you'll have more luck in #ubuntu
[14:10] <petrus_> oke np bye
[16:34] <mmcc`> Hi - can anyone tell me more about the status of staging.launchpad.net? It looks like it's been down for code update for a long time, maybe days.
[16:35] <mmcc`> I'm working on some software-center code that makes use of sc.staging.ubuntu.com, which talks to staging.lp, so unfortunately this is blocking me right now
[16:40] <czajkowski> mmcc`: hasn't been down for days
[16:41] <czajkowski> let me go get it poked
[16:42] <mmcc`> czajkowski: thanks! And yes, I only have evidence that it's been down for a few hours, but I was getting errors from sc.staging that I thought might have been due to this earlier. Sorry for the false alarm
[16:49] <xnox> czajkowski: is there any way for devs to reply to bad reviews in the software center?
[16:50] <czajkowski> xnox: hmm
[16:50] <czajkowski> cant you also leave feedback there
[16:50] <czajkowski> or contact the developer
[16:50] <czajkowski> davmor2: may know more
[16:50] <davmor2> meh
[16:51] <xnox> czajkowski: it's just some "John" left a bad review, and the developer want to help "John" yet there is no way to contact "John".
[16:52] <xnox> czajkowski: as far as gather. the developer already left a review / "reply to somebody elses problems", and thus can't leave yet another review.
[16:53] <davmor2> xnox: Not that I am aware of give me a second though
[16:53] <davmor2> xnox: also #software-center would be the better place as it is nothing to do with LP :)
[16:55] <xnox> davmor2: i really have no idea who/where/what the reviews are done.
[16:57] <davmor2> xnox: so NO.  About the best thing he can do is write a review for it answering but you can only write one review per app iirc
[16:58] <davmor2> xnox: he will of signed in using SSO but that doesn't mean the user has a lp account, but he might be able to look the user up on LP and see if the users LP page lists contact details
[18:47] <mmcc`> hi, since it's late for c-zajkowski , can anyone else look at why staging.launchpad.net is down? Thanks!
[18:53] <davmor2> mmcc`: there is czajkowski and then there is Australia I have no idea when they are on.
[18:54] <dobey> give it a few hours
[18:54] <dobey> then they'll start popping up, like spring daisies
[18:54] <mmcc`> :D I'll keep an eye out
[18:55] <davmor2> mmcc`: However czajkowski is awesome, but don't tell her I said that!  and will let them know first thing if it isn't up by the time she is :)
[18:56] <czajkowski> mmcc`: wont be up for a while
[18:56] <czajkowski> mmcc`: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1170440
[18:56] <mmcc`> davmor2: your secret is safe with me
[18:56] <mmcc`> czajkowski: ah, ok. thanks - I'll keep an eye on that bug, then.
[18:57] <davmor2> mmcc`: See I told you ;)  but mums the word
[22:19] <wgrant> mmcc`: Staging is back
[22:19] <mmcc`> wgrant: indeed it is! thanks for the ping :)