[00:21] <ko2> hello, how can i use the native manufacturer's accelerated graphics driver in KDE? i think the "default" is that this option is NOT set, right?
[00:22] <Walzmyn> ko2: have you just made a new installation?
[00:22] <ko2> yes, a new installation of Kubuntu Hardy Heron, and then updated, and installed libeigen2 from PPA and libdc1394 from PPA
[00:22] <ko2> but i am not logged in in Kubuntu at the moment
[00:23] <Walzmyn> ko2: ok, go to the Kmenu>>applications>>system >> hardware drivers
[00:23] <ko2> and then? i have no kubuntu at the moment
[00:24] <Walzmyn> you hvae no kubuntu?
[00:24] <ko2> i have kubuntu, but not here now
[00:24] <ko2> i am online with ubuntu lucid lynx
[00:25] <Walzmyn> so your in gnome?
[00:25] <ko2> yes
[00:25] <Walzmyn> ok, it may not be in the same location, but there will be a hardware driver application that will allow you to pick your propritary driver
[00:25] <ko2> ok
[00:25] <Walzmyn> you might be able to hit alt-f2 and find it easier
[00:26] <Walzmyn> but You'll need to switch over to #ubuntu if you want more help, I don't know gnome at all
[00:27] <ko2> my problem is as follows: i have Kubuntu Hardy Heron and installed a program. But there is a problem with displaying/rendering. It MIGHT help to use the native manufacturer's accelerated graphics driver in KDE.
[00:27] <ko2> lspci | grep -i vga
[00:27] <ko2> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated
[00:27] <ko2> Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[00:27] <ko2> that is the grapgics driver i have on the pc where Kubuntu is installed
[00:28] <ko2> what is kubuntu using if it is NOT using the native manufacturer's accelerated graphics driver?
[00:28] <Walzmyn> ko2: have you tried going into the recovery mode and repairing X?
[00:29] <Snowhog> ko2: Did you install mesa-utils?
[00:29] <ko2> no i did not try the recovery mode? Why? I have to say that i am rather new to linux (not so new but rather new then a professional)
[00:29] <ko2> i did not install the mesa-utils on my own as an extra, but maybe it was installed with kubuntu automatically?
[00:30] <Walzmyn> if the instal is trying to use the wrong driver or something, the recover can set things back to default and you can go from there
[00:30] <James147> ko2: why are you running such an old version of kubuntu? also, you can install kde alongside gnome in ubuntu by installing "kubuntu-desktop" from the software center
[00:30] <ko2> i have to use a usb camera which only runs on hardy heron
[00:31] <ko2> is there any advantage if i installed ubuntu with gnome, and then installed KDE (deinstalling GNOME)?
[00:31] <Walzmyn> damned goofy names, what number is hardy?
[00:31] <ko2> hardy is 8.04
[00:32] <Walzmyn> why will the camera only run on 8.04?
[00:33] <ko2> because the driver uses closed source kernel module for the access to the usb
[00:34] <ko2> it is an older camera with the older driver. The newer cameras run with Lucid Lynx
[00:34] <Walzmyn> dude, for $25 you can get a camera that'll run with no special drivers at all
[00:35] <ko2> it's an industrial camera, not just a webcam
[00:35] <Walzmyn> oh
[00:45] <ko2> I have Ubuntu Hardy Heron on my notebook, too. If i uninstall GNOME, will that cause any problems with my nvidida graphics driver (i installed that manually from Nvidia because my graphics card is too new for Hardy Heron)?
[00:45] <ko2> i want to install KDE
[00:47] <Walzmyn> the nvidia driver is a module for the kernel, KDE and Gnome are just packages that run on top of X they won't affect the driver
[01:35] <rand0m> hello, does anyone know of a free VPN service that works well with kubuntu/linux? UltraVPN seems abandoned
[01:37] <yofel> rand0m: openvpn?
[01:38] <yofel> wait, you said service, no idea then
[01:40] <rand0m> with openVPN would i need to make my own server .. or could i connect to avoid censorship like UltraVPN ?
[01:41] <rand0m> because i guess theorectiacly i could make a server at home for me to connect to, but not a option right now
[01:41] <rand0m> theoretically*
[01:44] <BajK_> Is it somehow possible loading the nouveau open source driver and still using the proprietary in an X session?
[01:44] <BajK_> i.e. I have a nice full resolution plymouth splash (via KMS supporting Nouveau) while still using the proprietary driver for the X session?
[01:45] <James147> BajK_: not as far as I know, but that bug is fixable
[01:45] <BajK_> how? since 10.10 I don't even get the graphical screen, I am presented with the text plymouth screen
[01:46] <BajK_> (and in Vbox as well.. sometimes)
[01:46] <James147> BajK_: looking up the link now...
[01:46] <BajK_> in 10.04 I at least had the low color graphics screen
[01:48] <BajK_> I heard of something like modifying grub‘s kernel string to add the vbeinfo stuff and enable the higher resolution this way
[01:48] <James147> BajK_: yeah, thats along the lines of what I did
[01:49] <James147> BajK_: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[01:51] <BajK_> James147: thx, I'll give it a try. It says 1280x1024, will it support 1920x1080 out of the box? or should I stick with a lower 16:9 resolution i.e 1280x720 ?
[01:52] <James147> BajK_: the values in the tutorial are probally just examples, it should be fine with anything your monitor can suport
[01:53] <BajK_> okay
[01:54] <BajK_> restarting.
[02:02] <BajK_> okay now I at least have the graphical logo but at 640x480, maybe 1920x1080 is just too high for that workaround. trying with 1280x720
[02:07] <BajK_> James147: Definitly looks brilliant now. thanks :)
[02:07] <BajK_> so, now I turn on my computer, have some stupid bios messages, then there is the brilliant kubuntu plymouth splash, then the X starts up and I have a kde splash scree that looks exactly like the plymouth theme and then there‘s the desktop :)
[02:31] <kawelo> hi
[02:31] <kawelo> anyone on?
[02:32] <James147> kawelo: Hi
[02:58] <zerothis> I'm trying to install larn. Now down to compiling from source.  The makefile is HTML formatted?
[03:07] <valorie> what's larn?
[03:08] <well_laid_lawn> it's an old cli game from 1986
[03:08] <valorie> ah
[03:08] <valorie> html markup sounds....bad
[03:08] <valorie> especially for a CLI game
[03:09] <valorie> like poorly done irony
[03:10]  * yofel wonders if he should install hardy somewhere so he can play moagg again
[03:10] <yofel> I somehow miss that :/
[03:10] <valorie> in a vm?
[03:11] <valorie> I think hardy was my first kub.
[03:11] <yofel> probably, maybe ubuntu-vm-builder works again, failed to create a hardy one last time I tried it
[03:11] <valorie> what was before that?
[03:11] <yofel> gutsy
[03:11] <valorie> ah.....lost in the mists of time
[03:12] <valorie> unless I find an old CD somewhere
[03:12] <yofel> get the iso from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ :P
[03:14] <valorie> make up a fake old history of long use?
[03:14] <valorie> lol
[03:14] <yofel> heh
[04:21] <binkula> hullo
[04:35] <brhad56> hell oh
[04:35] <binkula> hi :)
[04:36] <binkula> I'm almost done upgrading to 10.10 :3
[04:36] <binkula> I'm excited
[04:37] <brhad56> 10.4 kind of pissed me off, seemed to break alot of my stuff.  10.10 fixed it all though.  I like it
[04:37] <binkula> that's good
[06:43] <racines> Help! My Kubuntu desktop is totally messed up!
[06:43] <racines> http://i.imgur.com/zKn0N.png
[06:43] <racines> I dont know what happened
[06:44] <racines> Running Kubuntu 10.10
[06:44] <racines> what happened to the plasma desktop?
[06:44] <racines> o_o
[06:45] <maco> that's plasma netbook
[06:45] <maco> though the widget that lets you switch between Search & Launch and Page One is missing
[06:45] <maco> from the panel
[06:45] <racines> I must have closed it by accident
[06:45] <racines> i dont even know what "page one" is
[06:46] <maco> its a thing that lets you scroll widgets so you can fit more of them on the screen since on a netbook its hard to fit many at a time
[06:47] <maco> do you want to go back to plasma desktop or keep plasma netbook? it wouldve automatically chosen which to use based on resolution, but you can switch it in system settings -> workspace
[06:47] <racines> is it going to automatically go to netbook each time?
[06:47] <racines> I am using a netbook but I prefer the plasma desktop
[06:48] <maco> no it should only do it on first run
[06:48] <maco> after that it should use what you set
[07:53] <jschall> is there a way to roll all the latest updates along with some PPA updates (kubuntu-ppa, mainly) into an install iso? i don't care if it fits on a CD, i'd be using a flash drive to install.
[08:00] <CQ> hello, I have a laptop that boots up to the point where teh kubuntu screen with the marchingdots appears and then stops ... any suggestions? I've tried with several kernels, same result ... maybe reinstall teh base X package?
[08:02] <valorie> I unfortunately have no answers for either of you, but keep in mind it is a slow time on a December weekend......
[08:02] <valorie> all my IRC channels are dead.....
[08:03] <moetunes> CQ:  have you read the x log to see what is going on?
[08:08] <CQ> moetunes: gimme a few minutes, I'll have a look... rescue mode booting works fine
[08:46] <CQ> moetunes: http://pastebin.com/F6AEHi95 has the failsafe.log
[08:47] <moetunes> CQ:  there was no xorg.0.log?
[08:47] <CQ> moetunes: yes, there is... the failsafe one fails teh same way... i run it, and it exits out
[08:47] <moetunes> k
[08:48] <CQ> moetunes: http://pastebin.com/KXZSbncP for the Xorg.0.log
[08:52] <moetunes> CQ:  the Xorg.0.log doesn't seem complete and the failsafe one doen't mention why it failed - is there a xsession.errors file in your home dir to check?
[08:53] <CQ> moetunes: shouldn't be, it never gets close to the login screen...
[08:54] <GabrielYYZ> maybe check the kern.log? just a thought
[08:54] <moetunes> CQ:  ok - those files you posted don't give us a clue - did this happen after an update or you installed something?
[08:54] <CQ> moetunes: the last xsession.errors is from june...
[08:54] <moetunes> k
[08:55] <CQ> moetunes: yes, after an update, but it's been about half a year or more, i seldom use this box in kubuntu ... I figured I'd wait a while and see if updates fixed it... I just reinstalled xserver-xorg-core
[08:56] <CQ> anything else to reinstall that would simulate a reinstall of the system?
[08:56] <CQ> one more think I think, after the upgrade, even with older kernels it wouldn't boot anymore...
[08:57] <CQ> that's why I'm focused on something to do with X
[08:57] <CQ> reinstalling didn't seem to change anything, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work either ... let me go back to failsafe and look at the sys logs...
[08:57] <moetunes> CQ:  it might be a kde issue not x
[08:59] <CQ> moetunes: strange, the CUP fan goes to top speed when it's hanging though...
[09:00] <stevo> hello
[09:00] <moetunes> CQ:  X seems to start and close fine by the log - could you paste /usr/bin/startkde ?
[09:02] <CQ> moetunes: http://pastebin.com/rJHbsya2
[09:07] <CQ> moetunes: kern.log doesn't show anything interesting either ...
[09:07] <moetunes> k
[09:09] <CQ> moetunes: any ideas on what else to --reinstall ?
[09:10] <Peace-> CQ: problem ?
[09:10] <moetunes> CQ:  sometimes startkde doesn't get written right on updates but yours seems fine - nothing jumps up as an obvious thing to reinstall yet
[09:11] <CQ> Peace-: I have a laptop that boots up to the point where teh kubuntu screen with the marchingdots appears and then stops ... any suggestions? I've tried with several kernels, same result ... maybe reinstall teh base X package?
[09:12] <moetunes> CQ:  when the marching dots stop does it return you to tty?
[09:12] <moetunes> CQ:  when the marching dots stop does it return you to tty1?
[09:12] <Peace-> CQ: did it work before?
[09:12] <Peace-> i mean before you got the desktoo?
[09:12] <CQ> moetunes: in a normal boot they never start, I get the screen with the dots and then it goes black with a cursor and nothing works anymore
[09:13] <CQ> Peace-: it used to work until an update a year or so ago...
[09:13] <Peace-> CQ: kde version ?
[09:13] <Peace-> CQ: kernel version ?
[09:13] <Peace-> kubuntu version ?
[09:13] <CQ> moetunes: failsafe x goes into graphics mode and then right back to the selection menu
[09:14] <CQ> kernel 2.6.32-26-generic
[09:14] <CQ> latest lucid system
[09:14] <moetunes> CQ:  and you can move the cursor?
[09:14] <Peace-> CQ: have you tried with another user?
[09:14] <CQ> no... not with return, space, or arrows.
[09:14] <CQ> Peace-: I never even get close to the logon screen
[09:15] <Peace-> CQ: sudo adduser MYUSER ; sudo adduser MYUSER admin
[09:15] <Peace-> CQ: ok lets try to fix the box with this
[09:15] <Peace-> CQ: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/try-to-fix-your-kubuntu-box-with-kernel-recovery/
[09:16] <Peace-> CQ: but before
[09:16] <Peace-> CQ: save this like a bash script
[09:16] <CQ> Peace-: I can get into a root shell just fine, just nothing X works
[09:16] <Peace-> CQ: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/reinstall-kde/
[09:16] <Peace-> CQ: so if you can get the terminal like root
[09:16] <Peace-> CQ: try to add an user
[09:16] <Peace-> and log in with that
[09:17] <moetunes> CQ:  X works it is a kde error
[09:17] <CQ> moetunes: fine, but if it's a KDE error, it doesn't get close tothe user...
[09:17] <Peace-> if so CQ like said moetunes you should try to reinstall kde desktop
[09:17] <Peace-> CQ: when you upgrade some upgrade could mess the system
[09:18] <Peace-> so .. in these cases you neeed to reinstall kde
[09:18] <Peace-> the most of times it work
[09:18] <Peace-> s
[09:18] <CQ> Peace-: ouch, can one of you paste one of those reinstalls in such a way that I can wget it' I can't copy paste them fro a web browser obviously...
[09:18] <CQ> or sec, let me wget that page ..
[09:18] <Peace-> CQ: like said in my article
[09:19] <Peace-> CQ: you can save the string like a bash script
[09:19] <Peace-> when you get the terminal like root
[09:19] <Peace-> you can load the script
[09:19] <Peace-> ./mynamescript
[09:19] <Peace-> of course you need netroot
[09:19] <Peace-> ...
[09:20] <CQ> Peace-: I know, just getting it from a web page was the issue... I have it now and just need to cut the HTML out
[09:20] <Peace-> CQ: there is... a little button
[09:20] <Peace-> with copy the code ...
[09:21] <Peace-> omg
[09:21] <Peace-> CQ: are you a gnome guy?
[09:21] <Peace-> xD
[09:21] <moetunes> he has no gui
[09:21] <Peace-> moetunes: live cd ...
[09:22] <Peace-> live cd , copy the code... create the script
[09:22] <Peace-> reboot... netroot
[09:22] <Peace-> run the script
[09:22] <Peace-> .
[09:22] <CQ> Peace-: I have no gui, #only text, hence wget, vi, sh ...
[09:22] <Peace-> CQ: use a live cd...
[09:22] <Peace-> or a live usb
[09:23] <Peace-> or wait
[09:23] <Peace-> i will upload on my dropbox
[09:23] <CQ> Peace-: stop, just let me breathe for a sec, I have the reinstall script.
[09:23] <Peace-> CQ: make it executable...
[09:24] <Peace-> chmod +x nameyoucalledthescript
[09:25] <CQ> Peace-: I've been doing unix for 20 years, I know how to run a script, thanks .. ;)
[09:25] <Peace-> CQ: well... then :S
[09:25] <Peace-> strange you can't get how to fix stuff
[09:26] <CQ> it's running now ... problem was there was a special character in front of akonadi-server so apt told me akonadi-server didn't exist as a package
[09:26] <CQ> Peace-: I can fix stuff, but if I don't know where teh problem is it's alittle difficult
[09:27] <Peace-> when you upgrade packages there is always the probability that some new package has not installed well
[09:27] <Peace-> bad packages...
[09:27] <Peace-> strange thing .
[09:28] <Peace-> strnage new configurations files .... iincompatibility with old one
[09:28] <Peace-> always the same stuff everytimes
[09:32] <christopher> hey everyone, can someone link me to a very basic overview of how to use IRC? first time user here
[09:32] <Peace-> CQ: yes bad special character
[09:32] <Peace-> CQ: fixing the script :S
[09:32] <Peace-> christopher: complete a name first...
[09:32] <Peace-> christopher:  ch the press TAB
[09:33] <Peace-> then...
[09:33] <Peace-> dunno xD
[09:33] <Peace-> well i don't care about irc too much
[09:33] <christopher> complete a name?
[09:33] <moetunes> !tab
[09:33] <GabrielYYZ> christopher: which client are you using?
[09:34] <christopher> konversation
[09:35] <GabrielYYZ> christopher: some commands to get you started: http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/konvi-cmds.html
[09:35] <CQ> moetunes: Peace- ok, reinstall done, retrying...
[09:36] <moetunes> luck
[09:36] <Peace-> CQ: remember to create a new user to test it
[09:36] <Peace-> ..
[09:36] <Peace-> CQ: make sure after that you have typed even this
[09:36] <CQ> no luck, same issue.
[09:36] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <christopher> GabrielYYZ: thanks very much, the list is great. now I just have to figure out how to change my user name?
[09:37] <moetunes> CQ:  tried moving ~/.kde to ~/kde.bak and logging in ?
[09:38] <christopher> I guess I can do that from within the client
[09:38] <GabrielYYZ> christopher: for that, you do "/nick *name you want*" without the quotes or asterisks
[09:39] <CQ> Peace-: it fails _before_ getting to the login prompt, so I woudl assume that it has nothing to do with the user...
[09:39] <Peace-> remove all kde packages
[09:39] <Peace-> purge everything
[09:39] <Peace-> clean the cache
[09:40] <Peace-> reinstall kde from a nice repository.
[09:40] <Peace-> seems a esotic repository in ?
[09:40] <CQ> it looks like it stops working when it wants to go from teh dancing dots screen tot eh login screen...
[09:41] <cdybeijing> thanks GabrielYYZ... got it
[09:42] <GabrielYYZ> cdybeijing: christopher?
[09:42] <Peace-> CQ: or it's a kernel issue... or it's a kde issue
[09:42] <CQ> http://pastebin.com/q3psyidq sources.list ... all normal...
[09:42] <cdybeijing> yes
[09:42] <Peace-> CQ: video card?
[09:43] <CQ> Peace-: if it's a kernel issue, it's across at least 6 kernels...
[09:43] <GabrielYYZ> cdybeijing: if you want to register that nick do "/msg nickserv password email" password being the password you want and email, the email for that nickname
[09:43] <CQ> Peace-: fujitsu siemens p7010d lifebook
[09:43] <GabrielYYZ> cdybeijing: sorry, it's "/msg nickserv register password email"
[09:44] <Peace-> CQ: hey kid i am trying to help you don't try to kidding me
[09:44] <moetunes> CQ:  can you try startkde from a tty to bypass kdm the login screen?
[09:45] <CQ> Peace-: I'm not kidding you... I've tried with all the kernels I have installed, and the notebook is that old...
[09:45] <CQ> moetunes: sorry, just following Peace- 's suggestion to remove all dke packages and reinstall
[09:46] <moetunes> k
[09:46] <CQ> arh... forgot --purge ... can I somehow purge all configuration files from deinstalled packages =
[09:46] <CQ> ?
[09:46] <cdybeijing> GabrielYYZ: I assume that registered nick is only good for use on Freenode? if I want the same nick on other servers, I have to register there too?
[09:47] <moetunes> worth a try
[09:47] <CQ> cdybeijing: other servers have the same nicks, other IRC networks you have to reregister (oftc.net for example)
[09:48] <GabrielYYZ> yeah, CQ beat me to it
[09:48] <cdybeijing> sorry CQ, what's the difference between a server and a nick? in my original question, maybe I should have said network instead of server, I was thinking of quakenet, ircnet, etc
[09:49] <cdybeijing> I obviously have to reregister new nicks at each one I guess
[09:49] <maco> cdybeijing: yes
[09:49] <maco> cdybeijing: apt-get purge package
[09:49] <maco> itll work even after  remove (or at least aptitude purge does, and this is supposed to work the same)
[09:49] <cdybeijing> that does what maco?
[09:49] <GabrielYYZ> cdybeijing: that's not for you
[09:49] <GabrielYYZ> xD
[09:49] <maco> er dang wrong tab
[09:49] <maco> was for cq
[09:50] <CQ> aptitude purge ~c does it
[09:50] <CQ> ok, installingkubuntu-desktop
[09:51] <cdybeijing> great help from everyone, and I'm not even a kubuntu user - haven't tried anything other than GNOME yet :)
[09:51] <Peace-> :S
[09:51] <Peace-> gnome is old xD
[09:51] <Peace-> we are .... kde 4.6 beta2
[09:51] <GabrielYYZ> give kubuntu a try some day, you'll be amazed
[09:52] <Peace-> of course purging pulse cdybeijing
[09:52] <wesley> i'm slowly softening up to kubuntu
[09:52] <Peace-> xD
[09:52] <wesley> i can't stand this plasma stuff
[09:52] <Peace-> kubuntu needs only purge pulse for evil audio card
[09:52] <Peace-> and some stuff to increase the speed if youi don't need database
[09:53] <Peace-> akonadi stuff xD
[09:53] <cdybeijing> well, it's been mind opening just making the switch to a user friend linux distro in the first place - only happened about 6 months ago due to frustrations and comp problems
[09:53] <cdybeijing> it's a whole new world, really, being freed from the windows chains
[09:53] <Peace-> -----> kubuntu 100 mb of ram usage http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/nonepomucknoserachstuff.png?w=600&h=450
[09:53] <Peace-> http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/trick-faster-kubuntu/
[09:53] <GabrielYYZ> cdybeijing: i switch to linux in october, switched from ubuntu to kubuntu about 3 weeks ago :P
[09:54] <GabrielYYZ> switched to linux*
[09:54] <cdybeijing> very similar to me then
[09:54] <cdybeijing> I think I switched from windows in August though
[09:54] <Peace-> 3 years old :) the same stuff cdybeijing
[09:55] <wesley> kubuntu has this nice polished look that gnome didn't
[09:55] <Peace-> cdybeijing: if you try kde look a this and how to configure well dolphin... there are images http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/what-you-should-want-to-do-on-kubuntu-10-04/
[09:57] <GabrielYYZ> i might be crazy but i like nepomuk and akonadi :S
[09:57] <GabrielYYZ> and strigi
[09:57] <Peace-> GabrielYYZ: well i need speed :)
[09:57] <Peace-> before stringi nepo adn akonadi
[09:58] <GabrielYYZ> yeah, i guess mileage may vary
[09:59] <Peace-> anyway i have to go.. italy time... time to eat
[09:59] <CQ> Peace-: ok, didn't work either ...
[09:59] <CQ> maybe it's time for a reinstall... faster.
[09:59] <GabrielYYZ> peace: before you go, is that nowardev blog yours?
[10:00] <cdybeijing> if I really wanted to read an in depth comparision of gnome and kde, where should I look?
[10:00] <Peace-> GabrielYYZ: yea
[10:01] <GabrielYYZ> cdybeijing: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome that one's pretty good
[10:01] <cdybeijing> unfortunately Peace wordpress is blocked in China
[10:01] <CQ> cdybeijing: just try both... isntall ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop package and switch between them and see what you like better, rest of the system is the same
[10:01] <GabrielYYZ> Peace-: in the 3rd link you posted, WARMING should be WARNING. :)
[10:01] <Peace-> GabrielYYZ: xD
[10:02] <cdybeijing> just find that in the repository CQ?
[10:02] <Peace-> here there is hot xD
[10:02] <GabrielYYZ> lol
[10:02] <CQ> cdybeijing: yep, or fromteh command line sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:02] <Peace-> GabrielYYZ: fixed
[10:03] <Peace-> ty
[10:03] <GabrielYYZ> no prob
[10:03] <Peace-> GabrielYYZ: anyway i am nowardev you will find some nice service menu... and some little script
[10:03] <dmithiy> hi
[10:03] <Peace-> i have no time at all but some could be usefull for a kde user
[10:04] <CQ> speaking of which, which package do I need to install to run gnome desktop? It's not gnome-desktop ...
[10:04] <GabrielYYZ> ubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <CQ> GabrielYYZ: duh. should have figured it out after the other one is kubuntu-desktop ;)
[10:06] <GabrielYYZ> haha everyone has blonde moments :P
[10:15] <Anubis> hi. is anyone here who worked with ucarp ?
[10:18] <CQ> Anubis: try #debian maybe ... often more techies in there
[10:20] <CQ> Peace-: well, it's not KDE, gdm doesn't start either
[10:21] <Peace-> CQ: fresh reinstall
[10:21] <Peace-> i have no idea what is happening to your system
[10:21] <Peace-> kde is ok gnome is ok
[10:21] <Peace-> kernel ??
[10:21] <Peace-> drivers?
[10:22] <Peace-> guess you should try a live cd...
[10:22] <CQ> Peace-: yeah, before I look there it's easier and quicker to reinstall
[10:22] <CQ> already wasted too much time on this, but it's fun to play
[10:22] <Peace-> CQ: when you have done , make your own iso...
[10:23] <Peace-> with every package installed...
[10:23] <Peace-> i have make mine .. 1.7 gigs of stuff
[10:23] <CQ> Peace-: not needed, this is a multimedia system... openoffice removed, kaffeine and a music player sintalled done
[10:23] <Peace-> if something go bad... i use that
[10:23] <Peace-> CQ: multimedia? nice
[10:25] <Peace-> CQ: anyway... consider to use remastersys,,,
[10:25] <CQ> Peace-: best use for an old laptop ...
[10:26] <Peace-> i use this to do this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_qn2Mb_isx8
[10:26] <Peace-> so automatically create video project
[10:26] <Peace-> with kdenlive
[10:56] <tdn> I use Kubuntu 10.04 LTS and I cannot mount DVDs or CDs. When I look in the "Devices recently plugged in" and press "Clik to access device" (to mount it), it says: "Cannot mount the disc."
[10:58] <tdn> What can cause this problem? How do I fix it?
[10:58] <tdn> I have tried with several different CDROMs, audio cds, dvds, etc.
[11:01] <rork> tdn: The only thing I can think of is to check wether you're a member of the group "cdrom", you may also try mounting the cdrom as root. I can't help you further but if that doesn't solve the probleem maybe someone else can.
[11:01] <tdn> uid=1000(tdn) gid=1000(tdn) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),105(lpadmin),115(admin),116(sambashare),701(photo),1000(tdn)
[11:01] <tdn> From "id tdn", so I am a member
[11:02] <tdn> Also, I can mount the drive manually from the console without a problem.
[11:09] <Alarm> hello, which is the best osx theme ?
[11:09] <Alarm> i find several on the web :/
[11:27] <flixan> Hi all!
[11:44] <Alarm> can macbuntu be installed on kubuntu ?
[11:44] <Alarm> cause i see it tries to install all gnome packages
[11:46] <Peace-> gnome software can be installed on kde
[11:46] <Peace-> but...
[11:46] <Peace-> kde doesn't need of gtk stuff
[11:47] <Peace-> there is always a qt stuff
[11:47] <Alarm> yes my problem is that after trying to install the macbuntu i saw too many gnome-relevant packages required
[11:48] <Alarm> so i guess i will be running gnome with the osx theme
[11:48] <Alarm> and not kde theme with the osx theme
[11:48] <Alarm> am i right ?
[11:48] <Peace-> Alarm: omg
[11:48] <Alarm> what?
[11:48] <Peace-> there are a lots of stuff mac style for kde
[11:48] <Peace-> you don't need gtk packages...
[11:48] <Peace-> there is fancy dock for example
[11:48] <Peace-> fot the doc
[11:49] <Alarm> well i ended with macbuntu as this looked complete
[11:49] <Peace-> cupertino style for kde
[11:49] <Peace-> Alarm: well use google ... kde like mac
[11:49] <Peace-> or something like that
[11:49] <Peace-> there is for sure something like vistar7
[11:49] <Peace-> but for mac
[11:49] <Alarm> ok, i will give it a try
[11:49] <Alarm> thanks
[12:15] <superwizard> привет
[12:20] <rork> !ru superwizard
[12:20] <rork> !ru | superwizard
[12:25] <shane4ubuntu> is there a way to get kopete to support irc???
[12:28] <senorpedro> hi folks
[12:28] <Riddell> hi senorpedro
[12:29] <senorpedro> my desktop basically just "died", meaning no background image and no toolbar anymore. how can i restart this?
[12:29] <Riddell> shane4ubuntu: kopete in KDE 4 doesn't do IRC, you'll need to use Quassel or Konversation
[12:29] <Riddell> (you can do fancy things like jabber to irc gateways if you really want)
[12:29] <Riddell> senorpedro: alt+F2  plasma-desktop
[12:29] <shane4ubuntu> Riddell: ok, that is a bummer, I'm using pidgin currently, but when I close it it doesn't go to tray, it closes!
[12:29] <senorpedro> thx Riddell
[12:30] <Riddell> shane4ubuntu: there's a minimise button for that (but it won't go into the systray any more)
[12:31] <shane4ubuntu> Riddell: right, ok, thanks!
[12:33] <shane4ubuntu> Riddell: actually I got it!
[12:34] <shane4ubuntu> Riddell: I don't know what I installed, but now pidgin is in my sys tray, wish I knew what I did!  gotta run, thanks.
[12:34] <Caine-ffs> lol
[12:35] <shane4ubuntu> Riddell: ohh, I think it was in the preferences of pidgin, show in system tray always
[12:35] <shane4ubuntu> Riddell: yep, that was it, ok, gotta run.
[12:39] <dea> 有人在吗
[12:41] <13WAAU0EH> how do I change icon spacing in KDE? the icons in my systemsettings are so far apart, on my mum's computer (fresh installation, mine is an upgraded 9.10) the icons are tight
[12:46] <shredding> Hello!
[12:47] <shredding> This is my 2nd day with kubuntu and i have another question.
[12:47] <shredding> I've installed Gimp and configured Amarok, now these progs get started all the time, i start kubuntu.
[12:47] <shredding> Does anyone know how to prevent this?
[12:48] <shredding> Both are not listed in the KDE Control panel Autostart.
[12:55] <Tm_T> shredding_: do you quit them before shutting down?
[12:55] <shredding_> Yes.
[12:56] <shredding_> I haven't used them the last times.
[12:56] <Tm_T> shredding_: if you quit them using the menu instead of just closing the window, do they reappear still?
[12:57] <shredding_> Yes, I have quit them using the menu
[12:57] <Tm_T> hmmm, interesting
[12:57] <shredding_> That's what i thought.
[12:57] <shredding_> :)
[12:58] <shredding_> How can I see which tasks are running?
[13:09] <trichard> hey, i tried to install the dolphin-plugins in Kubuntu 10.10 but they don't seem to work
[13:17] <chaparanga> What's up?
[13:17] <rork> Time?
[13:33] <anna> hi all
[13:34] <anna> i installed ubuntu netbook, tehn plasma-netbook, and then compiz. i started compiz, but can't use it :( what should i do?
[13:36] <Riddell> anna: your setup isn't clear.  are you logged into ubuntu netbook (unity) or kubuntu netbook (plasma)?  how did you start compiz?  What's wrong with the default window manager?
[13:42] <anna> plasma
[13:43] <anna> compiz --replace. window manager is alright. but 3d accel isn't working
[13:43] <anna> i mean cube of desktop or task switcher
[13:43] <anna> wall of desktops is working perfect
[13:49] <anna> hmm. i select "cube of desktops", and compiz fails :(
[13:59] <brhad56> SYstem->System Monitor
[14:27] <d0l3y> :p
[14:46] <SStaR> Hey
[14:46] <Riddell> hi SStaR
[14:46] <James147> Hi
[14:46] <SStaR> Can somebody tell me where?s the Tech-Support?? [Sry for my bad english...im german]
[14:47] <Riddell> you can ask questions here
[14:47] <Riddell> !de  as well
[14:47] <Riddell> !de
[14:47] <SStaR> Danke!!!!!!!
[15:13] <senorpedro> hi folsk
[15:13] <Alarm> hello, i added a new panel and added in the panel some application shortcuts . the problem is that no matter how big i make the panel, the icons remain really small
[15:13] <senorpedro> i just installed 10.10 and have no nvidia support. which paket do i have to install for that?
[15:13] <Alarm> how can i change that ? so that the icons will increase their size according to the panels size
[15:15] <James147> senorpedro: open "hardware drivers" from the menu (or jockey-kde in a terminal)
[15:15] <Alarm> fixed
[15:16] <Alarm> so , how do i fix now the menu of the gtk applications ?
[15:16] <Alarm> firefox and xchat menu look weird :/
[15:17] <James147> Alarm: For firefox installing kde intergration might help: firefox-kde-support
[15:17] <Alarm> firefox-kde-support is already the newest version.
[15:18] <Alarm> not really
[15:18] <Alarm> i have it installed
[15:18] <Alarm> but still see the menu on a different colour than the rest
[15:20] <James147> Alarm: then you could try: System settings > Application Appearence > GTK+ Appearance
[15:20] <Alarm> widget style Qtcurve
[15:21] <Alarm> i suppose this option is correct
[15:21] <James147> Alarm: and do you ahve qtcurve installed?
[15:22] <Alarm> is this the gtk2-engines-qtcurve ?
[15:22] <Alarm> or kde-style-qtcurve ?
[15:22] <Alarm> actually i see different packages now. the gtk2-engines is installed
[15:23] <Alarm> qtcurve, kwin-style-qtcurve, kde-style-qtcurve are not installed
[15:23] <James147> Alarm: not sure if they are needed (I think they are to get it as a theme for kde)
[15:23] <James147> But installing them wont hurt ;)
[15:23] <Alarm> ok i will check on google :) i think it was a good help to start with
[15:23] <Alarm> ;)
[15:32] <supermag> hi, how do i reset the password on a older version of kubuntu ?
[15:33] <James147> supermag: you can try recovery mode, that should log you in as root with out a pasword, then type "passwd -u USERNAME" to change the password
[15:33] <supermag> even the drop to root option in the recover meny causes kubuntu to ask me for a password that i dont remember
[15:34] <James147> supermag: sorry, no -u... just "passwd USER"
[15:34] <supermag> " give root password for maintenace" ...
[15:34] <James147> supermag: then you can boot a live cd and chroot into the system and change the password that way :)
[15:36] <Alarm> Peace-, nah, i installed all the qtcurve packages
[15:36] <Alarm> nothing has changed
[15:38] <supermag> James147: i will try
[15:40] <supermag> James147:  sure thats the only option ?
[15:40] <supermag> James147: i am not sure if the cd rom is ok,
[15:41] <James147> supermag: no... but if you cannot login or recovermode then livecd would be the easiest :)
[15:41] <James147> supermag: you can create a liveusb if you have a spare 1gig flash drive
[15:41] <supermag> the bois does noe support booting formusb
[15:42] <supermag> from*
[15:42] <James147> :(
[15:42] <supermag> it's a old dell
[15:45] <supermag> it seems to boot from a cd, but i think it gets stuck at the splash screen, since it sounds like the cd rom is stuck in a sort of "read loop"
[15:46] <supermag> click   wirrr, click wirr...
[15:46] <supermag> maybe something is wrong with the cd image ?
[15:46] <supermag> i can hear the HD working
[15:47] <James147> supermag: then I am not sure what else you can do, except replace the cd rom or try an external one
[15:49] <supermag> the dots on the splash image is moving..
[15:49] <supermag> and, i dont know how i remove the cover on that dell box..
[15:50] <supermag> uh oh.. udev(75) worker 123 unexpected eturn wit status 0x0100
[15:51] <James147> supermag: its possible, you could try the cd check on the disk to see if its a good disk
[15:53] <supermag> i will try a older disc
[15:53] <supermag> kubuntu n6.8
[16:02] <SReid> I am using Blender in Kubuntu 10.10 and when I press ALT+Left-click to select edgeloops it allows me to nove the blender window and not the loop select I want. I've looked in the keyboard shortcut part of System settings and cannot find it to change to SUPER+click, can anyone help me?
[16:03] <Peace-> SReid: looking
[16:03] <Peace-> wait
[16:04] <SReid> thnx :)
[16:06] <Peace-> SReid: i canì't too
[16:06] <Peace-> SReid: try with blender shortcuts
[16:07] <SReid> sorry my text is bold sometimes, it makes my interface better
[16:07] <senorpedro> hi folks
[16:07] <Peace-> hi...
[16:08] <senorpedro> how can i put the task bar to the top of the desktop? drag-n-drop like in windows doesnt work
[16:08] <SReid> i don't want to change blenders shortcuts want to keep to the standard. I searched for all ALT commands in shortcuts and not there, i found way to do it in older versions with a google search but it doesn't apply to 10.10...
[16:09] <Peace-> SReid: mm try in this way try to set super + left click for some stuff
[16:09] <Peace-> on kde
[16:09] <Peace-> so it will overwrite the shortcuts..
[16:09] <Peace-> then disable it
[16:09] <SReid> ok will try thanks Peace
[16:09] <Peace-> senorpedro: task bar you mean ... the stuff you are open ?
[16:10] <Peace-> ed
[16:10] <senorpedro> Peace-, i already got it. thx anyway
[16:10] <Peace-> ok
[16:19] <SReid> Peace I found it! :D
[16:19] <SReid> System Settings > Window Behavior > Window Behavior ^_^
[16:24] <senorpedro> hi
[16:25] <senorpedro> i have nvidia driver installed (noveau), but i cant use the compiz desktop effects. why?
[16:27] <senorpedro> seems i have no glx extension
[16:27] <senorpedro> how can i enable that?
[16:29] <Alarm> still cannot find how to fix that menu issue on gtk applications
[16:29] <Alarm> nothing to be found on the web
[16:29] <Alarm> qtcurve and gtk engines are installed
[16:29] <Alarm> but still menus look weird
[16:29] <SReid> is it related to fonts Alarm, I've had problems with qtcurve too
[16:30] <Alarm> well fonts look just fine
[16:30] <SReid> Mine arn't, I've had to bold everything, its why this text i write ya right now is bold sometimes
[16:30] <Snowhog> senorpedro: Do you have mesa-utils installed?
[16:30] <Alarm> its just the colour on that area of the menus that looks brighter than the rest of the windows
[16:30] <senorpedro> Snowhog,
[16:30] <senorpedro> yes
[16:30] <senorpedro> says no glx enabled
[16:31] <Snowhog> senorpedro: Open your package manager and search on nvidia-glx
[16:32] <senorpedro> Snowhog, i have like 4 different ones: 96, 185, 180, 173
[16:32] <Snowhog> senorpedro: Yes, and what version of the nvidia driver are you using?
[16:32] <senorpedro> i take 185 because it sounds like the newest one
[16:33] <senorpedro> dont know
[16:33] <senorpedro> i just installed 10.10 so i guess the kubuntu default driver
[16:33] <Snowhog> senorpedro: You want to match the nvidia-glx to the version of the video driver you are using.
[16:34] <senorpedro> i think i use the nouveau driver
[16:34] <Snowhog> senorpedro: ?? Are you using the nvidia proprietary driver, or the free driver?
[16:34] <senorpedro> the nouveau
[16:35] <_mimicTraitor> hi
[16:35] <_mimicTraitor> hi seno hi snow
[16:36] <Snowhog> senorpedro: Is there a reason you didn't opt to install the nvidia driver via System > Additional Drivers?
[16:37] <senorpedro> Snowhog, as i just said, it is a fresh 10.10 installation. i didnt manually install any driver
[16:38] <Snowhog> senorpedro: You might want to use the nvidia proprietary driver. The Additional Drivers utility will pull in and install the appropriate driver for your card.
[17:07] <schweegi> how can i get the microsoft fonts like verdana in kubuntu?
[17:10] <Snowhog> schweegi: Install the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package
[17:11] <Snowhog> schweegi: But it doesn't contain verdana.
[17:12] <schweegi> Snowhog: thanks. I've installed this package but in OpenOffice are'nt any of these fonts available.
[17:20] <Snowhog> schweegi: See http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/TT-Debian-7.html  It might be helpful.
[17:24] <schweegi> Snowhog: thanks
[17:25] <Snowhog> schweegi: :)
[17:43] <Snowhog> schweegi: The font can be directly obtained here: http://www.filewatcher.com/m/VERDANA.TTF.139640.0.0.html
[17:45] <Snowhog> schweegi: Once you have the font downloaded, just go to System Settings > Font Installer and add it.
[17:53] <jon_high9000> Hi. I was wondering is there a waly to do a Partial upgrade to the next distro?
[17:58] <jon_high9000> Hi. I was wondering is there a way to do a Partial upgrade to the next distro?
[18:03] <Snowhog> jon_high9000: Partial upgrade? What exactly do you want to accomplish?
[18:11] <racines> I'm a bit stuck on how to download a python module from www.pygame.com in Kubuntu. I have tried: sudo apt-get install pygame however it isn't working
[18:11] <racines> http://pygame.org/download.shtml that would be the download page, looked under the Unix section
[18:14] <charyku> hey how do you get Konversation to run multiple connect commands? I know i'm a simpleton, but only just started using Ubuntu :P
[18:17] <BajK_> will installing fglxr increase compositing performance / graphics performance or can it not improve it compared to the default driver shipped with kubuntu?
[18:18] <Snowhog> charyku: See http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/konvi-cmds.html
[18:20] <charyku> cheers
[18:27] <aboudreault> Hi. how can I install kmail in kubuntu/maverick?
[18:27] <aboudreault> Looks like the package is broken
[18:33] <Snowhog> aboudreault: kmail is part of Kontact - the PIM - and Kontact is installed by default.
[18:37] <skafti> i have browser plugin problem can anyone help
[18:38] <rork> skafti: not if we don't know which browser, which plugin and what's the problem :)
[18:39] <skafti> :) Mozilla is the browser and the plugin im not sure of think java
[18:40] <skafti> the problem is i cant stream some type of video
[18:40] <skafti> im not so smart at this that i know the problem exacly
[18:41] <aboudreault> Snowhog, it is not
[18:41] <aboudreault> Snowhog, since I upgraded
[18:42] <Snowhog> aboudreault: Did you have Kontact installed before you upgraded?
[18:42] <rork> skafti: do you have the address of the page or video you want to stream?
[18:42] <skafti> http://vefmidlar.visir.is/VefTV/?channelID=STOD2&programID=d93d6ddc-f3df-4c27-90e2-28d49738f306&mediaSourceID=e77c955e-04c3-488a-9f46-c7c71b224b5e&mediaClipID=3275262f-c804-4597-97d1-d95434c5a96e
[18:43] <skafti> Icelandic news
[18:43] <aboudreault> Snowhog, yes. but trying to install kmail report: unmet dependencies: libkdepim4 libkleo4 etc..
[18:44] <Snowhog> skafti: Does your browser ask about installing the required plugins when you try to play any of the streams?
[18:44] <skafti> just get missing plugin and them im directed to install missing plugin and the "no sutable plugin found"
[18:45] <Snowhog> aboudreault: What are you using to try to install kmail?
[18:45] <aboudreault> apt-get, as usual.
[18:45] <Snowhog> aboudreault: What version of KDE are you running?
[18:46] <aboudreault> 4.5.4
[18:46] <aboudreault> installed via the kubuntu-ppa
[18:47] <Snowhog> aboudreault: Hmm. KDE 4.5.4 here as well, and Kontact/Kmail works just fine. Does Kontact work for you?
[18:47] <aboudreault> let try to start it
[18:47] <rork> skafti: I see, Page Info > Media says there's some mplayer stream embedded, I think installing an mplayer or xine plugin for mozilla/firefox would do the job. Let me check
[18:48] <aboudreault> Snowhog, no. can't start: error while loading shared libraries: libkontactinterface.so.4
[18:48] <aboudreault> no such file
[18:49] <yofel> aboudreault: do you have libkontactinterface4 installed?
[18:49] <aboudreault> Snowhog, will install the package..
[18:49] <Snowhog> aboudreault: The library exists here. You can try reinstalling kontact: sudo apt-get install --reinstall --simulate kontact (this will simulate the results)
[18:51] <aboudreault> ok kontact works now. but I don't understand why kmail wants libkdepim4 4.4.7 when the repository has 4.4.8
[18:51] <rork> skafti: I installed "xine-plugin" from the repositories and it let me play the media (looks like a news broadcast)
[18:52] <skafti> exacly :)
[18:52] <yofel> aboudreault: can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy libkdepim4', that's 4.4.7 here
[18:53] <aboudreault> yofel, sure, 1 minute
[18:53] <rork> skafti: `sudo apt-get install xine-plugin` (or whatever you like to use), restart your browser and you should get going
[18:54] <Snowhog> yofel: Same version here too.
[18:54] <aboudreault> Snowhog, yofel : http://pastebin.ca/2017558
[18:55] <yofel> right, someone copied 4.4.8 over to lucid but forgot maverick o.O
[18:57] <aboudreault> yofel, yeah
[18:58] <yofel> I'll look where that got lost, for now disable the lucid ppa lines in software sources
[18:58] <aboudreault> I have no lucid lines
[18:59] <skafti> Thank you once again rork youre the man
[19:00] <yofel> aboudreault: you have, if not it wouldn't offer you 4:4.4.8-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1
[19:00] <superwizard> shell
[19:01] <Snowhog> !shell | superwizard
[19:01] <aboudreault> yofel, ha... I see something in sources.list.d/[...].save and .distUpgrade
[19:02] <superwizard> kshell
[19:04] <superwizard> lshell
[19:04] <yofel> superwizard: what are you looking for?
[19:04] <Snowhog> superwizard: What are you trying to find out?
[19:04] <superwizard> spell
[19:05] <aboudreault> yofel, no lucid lines: http://pastebin.ca/2017566 (and the same result for apt-cache show)
[19:05] <superwizard> spell,shell,lshell?
[19:05] <yofel> aboudreault: and what does apt-cache policy tell you?
[19:06] <aboudreault> yofel, http://pastebin.ca/2017571
[19:07] <superwizard> bshell?
[19:07] <yofel> superwizard: you're not making any sense..
[19:07] <Snowhog> Riddell: Please take a look at superwizard
[19:07] <yofel> aboudreault: did you recently upgrade to maverick?
[19:07] <aboudreault> yofel, seems to be a versionning problem
[19:07] <aboudreault> yofel, no, just updated this week
[19:07] <aboudreault> s/no/yes
[19:08] <yofel> ok, what happened: you updated kdepim in lucid, upgraded to maverick, but maverick doesn't have kdepim 4.4.8 yet, which is a problem :/
[19:09] <aboudreault> ha, that makes sense. I always do a apt-get upgrade before a dist-upgrade.
[19:33] <Walzmyn> i've got Debian running in a virtual box, when I kick in fluxbox it's MUCH bigger than my monitor, anybody know how to size it down?
[19:59] <Junaos> Hi guys, quick question;  on occasion (a few times a day at least), whatever program I am currently using for sound (Whether it be a flash video in Google Chrome, or Amarok) will suddenly stop playing sound.  On further investigation, it no longer shows up in KMix or pavucontrol.  However, if I restart the app, everything is fine.  Any ideas (crossposted to #ubuntu)
[20:31] <Posi> moin
[20:31] <Snowhog> Posi: English please.
[20:44] <metra> hi does anyone knows if its possible to transfer a web cam image from a linux OS , into a XP  ?
[20:44] <metra> live video
[20:44] <metra> trought a lan
[20:54] <shane4ubuntu> does anyone know what package has the volume control thing for the system tray?  I don't have a volume control thing
[20:56] <shane4ubuntu> ohh, must be kmix
[21:08] <ko2> hello, could someone help me with this question: http://dpaste.com/285764/
[21:08] <superwizard> nmap
[21:08] <ko2> #join #kubuntu-de
[21:09] <Snowhog> !de | ko2
[21:12] <asenssy> hi there
[21:12] <rork> hi
[21:12] <asenssy> i'm trying to get sound on hdmi
[21:12] <asenssy> what i have to do
[21:13] <asenssy> i can't fix the hardwear to hdmi
[21:13] <asenssy> please help me
[21:13] <asenssy> when i use to do it on ubunutu
[21:14] <asenssy> i just did change hardwear from analog to hdmi
[21:14] <asenssy> what i have to do now
[21:16] <Snowhog> asenssy: What is showing in System Settings > Mulitmedia
[21:17] <asenssy> only internal audio analog stereo
[21:18] <asenssy> this is the only one output device
[21:20] <asenssy> can somebody help me
[21:20] <Snowhog> asenssy: Is Show advanced devices checked on that screen?
[21:21] <boomix> can anyone help please
[21:23] <asenssy> internal audio analog stereo
[21:23] <asenssy> is my
[21:23] <asenssy> default output device
[21:24] <asenssy> there is no hdmi output device
[21:24] <Snowhog> asenssy: What version of Kubuntu, and was it an upgrade or new install?
[21:24] <asenssy> it is 10.10
[21:25] <asenssy> beta
[21:25] <asenssy> i'm new
[21:25] <asenssy> it was using ubuntu
[21:25] <Snowhog> asenssy: 10.10 'beta' ? From an older LiveCD install? 10.10 is not beta anymore.
[21:26] <asenssy> ok
[21:26] <asenssy> i got it from ubuntu officiale website
[21:26] <asenssy> the latest kubunut
[21:27] <asenssy> i didn't have such problems with just ubuntu
[21:27] <asenssy> i just wanted to try it
[21:28] <asenssy> and everything went wrong
[21:28] <Snowhog> asenssy: Are you running from the LiveCD, or did you actually install it?
[21:28] <asenssy> i did install it
[21:28] <asenssy> no live cd
[21:29] <asenssy> i did boot from my hd
[21:31] <Snowhog> asenssy: K > System > Hardware Devices and see if it identifies special hardware on your PC. If it does, it should also download and install the drivers.
[21:32] <boomix> why wont t-mobile dongles wont work on kubuntu...
[21:37] <dthacker> boomix:  t-mobile dongles?   wireless via mobile network?
[21:39] <boomix> yes dthacker
[21:40] <dthacker> boomix: error messages?
[21:42] <dthacker> boomix: look up your hardware here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[21:45] <Herbal> Hey, im trying to install Kubuntu Netbook via Wubi but it gives me an error when looking for the ISO to download
[21:48] <Herbal> has the netbook version been pulled? I cant seem to find that version in the downloads either...
[21:51] <Snowhog> Herbal: The latest version of Kubuntu now contains both versions. During installation it detects (based on screen size?) and installs the 'appropriate' one. After installation, you can choose between the Netbook and Desktop.
[21:52] <Herbal> thank you Snowhog
[21:54] <boomix> 13 days till santa!!!
[21:57] <Snowhog> Herbal: See http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.10-release
[21:57] <kaddi> hi, i'm looking for a simple and clean rss feed handler? Something that would give me the possibility to sort stuff by categories but thats about it. (for 64bit 10.10) Any suggestion and or preferences what I should try?
[21:58] <kaddi> !rss
[21:58] <brhad56> boomix: Santa is a lie
[21:59] <boomix> I once tried the stinky pinky on a guy and he jumped so high. I LOL'd
[21:59] <brhad56> I hope you have a vagina
[21:59] <rork> kaddi: I use Akregator, it's the only one I tried but it's good enough to stick with it
[22:00] <boomix> Merry Fap-mas
[22:00] <Snowhog> Keep it clean here. Family oriented.
[22:01] <rork> kaddi: it does what you ask and can be integrated with Kontact (all though that may trigger a bug where kontact doesn't close unless you close it with the Akregator tray icon)
[22:01] <kaddi> rork: cool, i'll check that out :)
[22:32] <FAMILIA> hola
[22:34] <FAMILIA> hola
[22:34] <FAMILIA> holaahola
[22:35] <FAMILIA> alguien ahi
[22:35] <FAMILIA> ?
[22:35] <kaddi> !es
[23:50] <NickStonefan> anyone here?
[23:51] <Snowhog> NickStonefan: Your question?
[23:52] <NickStonefan> I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS which came with Gnome 2.30 I have also installed KDE 4.4.2 but how do I upgrade to latest version of KDE without having to upgrade to Kubuntu 10.10?
[23:54] <James147> NickStonefan: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-45  << how to upgrade to kde 4.5 on 10.10
[23:55] <NickStonefan> i dont want 10.10
[23:55] <James147> 10.04 sorry :)
[23:55] <NickStonefan> thank you
[23:56] <NickStonefan> would you say it is ideal to upgrade to 4.5 or just stick to current version?
[23:56] <James147> NickStonefan: I found 4.5 much more responsive then 4.4
[23:57] <NickStonefan> ok thanx
[23:57] <NickStonefan> I'll check out kubuntu pages
[23:57] <NickStonefan> bye
[23:57] <James147> NickStonefan: I would recomended it if your willing to fix anything that `might` break... although that should be unlikly


[00:13] <ubptgbot> pixiesruthlessness was added by: pixiesruthlessness
 ***Is anyone working on a Sunfish Port and need testing???***  I always purchase (2) devices, one for sacrifice and 1 for daily sacrifice ....lolz
 i aint scared to flesh
 I would like to ask is ubuntu touch support arm64 deb pkg my device poco f1 also device has multirom ported already perhaps it can work for it since kexec already supported and have compatible kernel compiled with CONFIG_KEXEC
 @TartanSpartan [I don't know why CANUSA border agencies need many weeks to pass a smartphone- ju …], When I received my Volla it still had a charge even though it was over 8 weeks in transit.
 @Petronazeh1 [I would like to ask is ubuntu touch support arm64 deb pkg my device poco f1 also …], UT does not support using deb or apt and it also does not support any multiboot solution. However, if you can find an apk of multirom with UBport's image server then it should probably work. My Nexus 5 has multirom and it still works wit
[03:20] <ubptgbot> h UT so far.
[05:59] <ubptgbot> Meh was added by: Meh
 did anyone find any method to get wifi  working after apt upgrade?
 (Photo, 360x131) https://irc.ubports.com/8Hg4h05e.png What can I do with it? I cannot post on the forum
 @just_carlod [<reply to media>], Are you trying to post a link? If so that might be it.
 yeah
 should I use [link](url) ?
 It's an antispam measure for new members. Can you give the information without posting any links? You'll be able to post links as you gain some reputation.
 I cannot post the message even without any links
 this antispam system is weird
 is HTC desire 825 support ubport??
 @just_carlod [I cannot post the message even without any links], I had the same problem. I ended up posting a 1-line introduction. https://forums.ubports.com/topic/177/welcome-to-the-ubports-community-introduce-yourself-here/246?_=1613466238205
 @rahidul_islam [is HTC desire 825 support ubport??], I don't see it on the list: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 @klaartje_b [I don't see it on the list: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/], i was searching but did not find any information.
 That is the list of currently supported devices, so what is not on that list is currently not supported.
 @klaartje_b [That is the list of currently supported devices, so what is not on that list is …], what can i do?
 If you want, you could make a new port of UT for your device so that it becomes supported. Start here: http://docs.ubports.com/porting
[09:31] <ubptgbot> Andreas E was added by: Andreas E
 @klaartje_b [I had the same problem. I ended up posting a 1-line introduction. https://forums …], I cannot do this
 @just_carlod [I cannot do this], Sorry, I can't help, maybe a moderator can. I'm just another member.
 ok
[10:53] <ubptgbot> mehmetdem1r09 was added by: mehmetdem1r09
 @m_aurel [Hello, I'm asked by user, why she can't install Dekko from the Open Store again. …], Dekko should be back up in the Openstore now
 Yes it came back yesterday
 Btw most problems i have with my oneplus one are gone, somehow formatting and reflashing helped.
 I still have mic problems but i can live with that for the moment
 @Flohack [Dekko should be back up in the Openstore now], Indeed. Thanks. I will notify our customer
[11:35] <ubptgbot> Gambol_divots was added by: Gambol_divots
 Has anybody encountered a problem in libertine where the internet doesnt work in apps
 Happpyy! I receivved Ethereuuum fromm Mmmuusssk … https://bit.ly/3k0W0y0
 Spam
 @qwertybyte [did anyone find any method to get wifi  working after apt upgrade?], do not use apt upgrade, it is not supported. to restore functionality revert apt upgrade by switching channels
[13:04] <ubptgbot> Продажи 🔥 b2b was added by: Продажи 🔥 b2b
[14:31] <ubptgbot> Skip was added by: Skip
 Hi there. First of all ubports are very fluent and working quite well. I'm using a Sony x phone with the stable channel. My camera isn't working properly. Is there any solution?
 @Volker [Hi there. First of all ubports are very fluent and working quite well. I'm using …], camera is being worked on, if there's a solution you will get it in an update
 Is there an schedule for it?
 @Volker [Hi there. First of all ubports are very fluent and working quite well. I'm using …], Could you be more specific? What is not working?
 (Sticker, 512x499) https://irc.ubports.com/rM5OLnhf.webp
 oops
 misclick
 If i use the record Button, the camera isn't freezing completly
 Correct, video recording will work in the next stable update.
 Flash and zoom doesn't work. So the tagger app can't be used
 @Volker [Is there an schedule for it?], on what channel are you?
 On the stable channel
 @UniversalSuperBox [Correct, video recording will work in the next stable update.], Wow this are very good News.
 @Volker [On the stable channel], there's no ETA yet we are reaching a soft feature freeze this week
 @Fuseteam [there's no ETA yet we are reaching a soft feature freeze this week], ETA ?
 @Volker [ETA ?], Estimated Time of Arrival
 @Flohack [Estimated Time of Arrival], Thanks a lot for your time and work
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/QDTNEtha.webp
 cut the rope gotta cut the rope
 @UniversalSuperBox [Correct, video recording will work in the next stable update.], sweet, they just keep getting better :)
 Hello, I do not see q&a 94 on the site.
 It is not posted yet.
 @UniversalSuperBox [It is not posted yet.], I'm waiting, I don't speak English, so I always use a translator.
 oh man this is so much easier to get a feel on: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pinephone/
 [Edit] oh man this is so much easier to get a feel on what works: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pinephone/
 yeah thats nice
[17:22] <fretegi> morning!
[17:23] <fretegi> so just installed UBPorts on a pixel 3a, liking it.. cant get phone calls or texting to work..  on Verizon as my cell carrier.  Phone will ring but not answer or place calls.  possibly APN settings?
[17:23] <fretegi> and if so, how do you change them? if i try to edit in settings > cellular they dont save
 i think there's a known issue with calls on android 9 based devices (including pixel 3a) that is being worked on
 dang i was just browsing the mrs on the devices page repo and it just dropped by 1 right then and there 😂
 looks like the volla now has a similar page too xD
[17:25] <fretegi> interesting, so no chance its APN related?
[17:26] <fretegi> on that note tho.. the settings i see in APN now are dif. that what i have found for recommended.. for good measure, how do we change them? are they pulling from a config i need to edit somewhere?
 I will abandon the project of the bq X2 with ubports due to technical problems, for those who want to continue the project I will publish the manifest of it and I will write at what point I had arrived and what worked in the moment of debug
 @fretegi [interesting, so no chance its APN related?], it's possible, but there are known issues
 i don't know if tweaking APN will help with voice though
[17:42] <fretegi> happy to try, how do we tweak APN?
[17:42] <fretegi> changes dont seem to stick
 hmm, they should
[17:43] <fretegi> yea there is no save button anywhere... so once i make changes and close the setting window.. it reverts
[17:44] <fretegi> same applies to editing existing settings or trying to add a new APN
[17:57] <fretegi> well happy to provide whatever data i can on the problem if that helps
 i don't know. maybe @fredldotme knows more about the current situation with voice calling on halium 9 devices like pixel 3a ^^
 Sadly no news around that topic :/ @NotKit do you?
 still no luck
[18:04] <fretegi> copy thanks guys
[18:05] <fretegi> what about MMS? i dont have that working either, but then again back to APN settings being dif. than what i found to be proper.. just cant get the damn change to stick ha
 @unriell [I will abandon the project of the bq X2 with ubports due to technical problems, …], i strongly dont recommend not port ubports to bq x2, if something goes wrong and you need to reset phone you can't because you don't have material to unlock and to resolve the error if not buying a new motherboard
[20:21] <ubptgbot> peelings2027 was added by: peelings2027
 Awwesome! Giveawway BTС and ETH!! https://bit.ly/3pqfjSp  🚀🚀
 and we go again ...
 @unriell [i strongly dont recommend not port ubports to bq x2, if something goes wrong and …], oof tis 5x 2.0
 Nah. The 5X is a perfectly okay build target. I'm sure someone could figure it out
 But they're so fragile and rare... that why bother
 @UniversalSuperBox [But they're so fragile and rare... that why bother], Lmao
 oh that's how it went eh? i always wondered how plamo managed it
 It was probably easy
 Just effort
 Plasma Mobile is far different from Ubuntu Touch
 @UniversalSuperBox [But they're so fragile and rare... that why bother], Sounds like a job for me ^^
 At the time we had more assumptions made about CAF Android than AOSP
 Whereas they implemented with AOSP
 ah i see 🤔
 I really don't think it'd be a hard port to do any more. I just don't think it's worth doing for the return on investment.
 We'd have to ship two images: one for people with devices which haven't broken yet, one for those which have.
 wait what?
 [Edit] wait what? 😂
 The Nexus 5X, like the Nexus 6P (and many SD808/810 devices I believe), has a fatal flaw leading to the CPU being unable to initialize its high-frequency cores
 Basically not worth it
 Me: goes buys a brand new 5x to see how many hours of pubg it takes to break it
 @Fuseteam [oof tis 5x 2.0], It has no hardware problems other than the poor quality touch panel on some devices but it is a negligible detail, as for the battery but let's move on, the problem It is not possible to unlock the device like in my case, all thanks to some negligence on the part of the OEM
 You can restore it but the cost is not worth the return
 It can still init its low frequency cores, of which there are 2 on the sd808 and 4 on the sd810
 So... dual core phone yay?
 @UniversalSuperBox [So... dual core phone yay?], Yay! North Korea style power!
 oh my 🤔
 (I swear they sold a tablet that was dual core but had 1tb storage)
 mfw dual was fast in its time on the desktop
 [Edit] mfw dual core was fast in its time on the desktop
 @unriell [It has no hardware problems other than the poor quality touch panel on some devi …], In fact maybe I could take it all back
 Yeah but quad core go nyoom
 @unriell [In fact maybe I could take it all back], Lmao
 @unriell [In fact maybe I could take it all back], hm?
 @amyosx [Yeah but quad core go nyoom], lmao
 @Fuseteam [hm?], A guy is working to fix the problem
 Your ubuntu touch devices page looks great, good job folks.
 @unriell [A guy is working to fix the problem], oh cool
 @wayneTBT [Your ubuntu touch devices page looks great, good job folks.], ikr, not all pages are up to par yet but its miles ahead of what it was
[22:14] <fretegi> yea is a good lookin site, like how the OS functions as well.  just need to get calls and MMS sorted.. that phone stuff ha
 Its great folks, so clear and useful
 @Fuseteam [ikr, not all pages are up to par yet but its miles ahead of what it was], Tons of improvement. It really makes a difference. ❤
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/0N0yFZev.png
 @wayneTBT [Your ubuntu touch devices page looks great, good job folks.], doesn't look that good on small screen, but congrats for the effort
 donate section a bit too central for me
 can someone post a screenshot of first rendering on wider devices for comparison ?
 Turn it sideways>
 [Edit] Turn it sideways?
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/PV1dh01z.png
[22:33] <fretegi> how do you get the battery % up there, i didnt see an option for that in settings anywhere
 That's an option in UT Tweak Tool.
[22:35] <fretegi> ah, tweak tool, is that an app?
 Yes, it's in the Open Store.
 [Edit] can someone post a screenshot of first rendering on other devices for comparison ?
[22:38] <fretegi> oh man nice thanks
 You're welcome, milady. 🙃
 ? … Not sure that landed in English
 Battery percentage in the indicators is the way forward!
[23:01] <fretegi> and dark themes
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