[16:06] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: When you remove firefox it keeps all the settings (you may have noticed that) purging removes all settings so you could start afresh
[16:06] <DaSkreech>  course you could just close firefox then mv ~/.firefox ~/.firefoxed
[16:06] <DaSkreech> and restart firefox
[16:06] <DaSkreech>  :)
[16:07] <Dr_willis> dromer,  it dont if you just replace it.. from what ive seen
[16:08] <Dr_willis> BRB
[16:08] <dromer> eh?
[16:08] <Lokiase> Deskreech: when I use that command, it says that folder or file doesn't exist
[16:10] <tillz> heyho
[16:11] <tillz> need help, anybody here?
[16:11] <Lokiase> jes :p
[16:11] <Lokiase> still need help
[16:11] <Lokiase> firefoxprob stil not solved :(
[16:11] <tillz> whose would help me
[16:11] <tillz> i have to work with a resoultion of 680x480 or anything like this
[16:11] <Dr_willis> Lokiase,  if you go to a simple web site does firefox crash? or is it any site? or every site? or just flash sites?
[16:12] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: You have no ~/.firefox ?
[16:12] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[16:12] <Dr_willis> tillz,  be sure you have your proper video card drivers installed for your brand bvideoc ard
[16:12] <tillz> yes it worked perfect
[16:12] <Lokiase> I cannot go to a website, firefox does not start, it crashes on the startup... and no idea I have a folder like that, i just did the command
[16:12] <tillz> but once a day i started and it doesn recognized the video card
[16:13] <tillz> i reinstalled the driver with envyng
[16:13] <Dr_willis> Lokiase,  from a terminal run 'firefox' and look for any error messages
[16:13] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: So Firefox has never worked?
[16:13] <tillz> but it doesn´t works
[16:13] <Dr_willis> tillz,  if you used envyng. you will need to rerun envyng after every kernel update.
[16:13] <Lokiase> Dr_willis: in the terminal it is: "segmentation error'
[16:13] <DaSkreech> holymoly: Is she?
[16:13] <tillz> yes i know :-p
[16:13] <Dr_willis> Lokiase,  thats a bad sign.
[16:13] <Lokiase> DaSkreech: it works, not always sometimes
[16:14] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: Blaaaa
[16:14] <matisse> how does a package get the status 'old' ?
[16:14] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozedup
[16:15] <DaSkreech> matisse: It passes 60 gets a gold watch and a rocking chair
[16:15] <Lokiase> DaSkreech
[16:15] <Lokiase> that command didn't give an error
[16:15] <Lokiase> and now?
[16:15] <DaSkreech> restart firefox
[16:16] <Lokiase> DaSkreech, same error
[16:16] <Dr_willis> i dont recall ever seeing the term 'segmentation error' befor
[16:17] <Lokiase> it says
[16:17] <Lokiase> segmentatiefout
[16:17] <Lokiase> its dutch :)
[16:17] <Lokiase> ow I think
[16:17] <Lokiase> the correct translation is segmentation fault
[16:17] <Dr_willis> That means it 'crashed' :)
[16:18] <Dr_willis> could be for any of a dozen reasons..
[16:18] <Dr_willis> including hardware issues, memory issues, or cruppted files
[16:18] <Lokiase> it needs to be solved
[16:18] <Lokiase> its not working nice this way :p
[16:18] <Dr_willis> With out a clue as to why its crashing.. theres not a lot one can do
[16:19] <Lokiase> how can i give a clue?
[16:19] <Dr_willis> thats why we have been testing with new users, and removing the settings dir.
[16:19] <OxDeadC0de> are there firefox-dbg packages in the repos?
[16:19] <Dr_willis> but it seems to be crashing  for everyone/everytimg
[16:20] <OxDeadC0de> if yes, install those, then run gdb firefox in a console, when it crashes run back full and pastebin the results?
[16:20] <matisse> is there a good support forum for (k)ubuntu ? I ask a lot of questions, so it would make sense to register in ubuntuforums.org, am I right ?
[16:20] <Dr_willis> Yes matisse
[16:20] <Lokiase> Dr_willis, when I restart the computer, restart the x-server, choose standard profile instead of KDE (or KDE instead of standard, just the one with no v on) it usually works for a couple of houres
[16:20] <OxDeadC0de> that would make sense matisse, especially if nobody here knows the answers to your questions (since this is real time support)
[16:21] <Dr_willis> Lokiase,  as a different text.. you could install a light window manager, like icewm, and try running firefox with that for a  while.
[16:21] <Dr_willis> different test...
[16:21] <Dr_willis> It could be some odd kde/firefox conflict.
[16:21] <Lokiase> Dr_willis, no idea how to do that
[16:21] <OxDeadC0de> dr_willis my suggestion will get to the core of the problem much more quickly, then he can send his backtrace to the firefox dev team and let them fix it - if an easy local fix isn't possible
[16:22] <matisse> Dr_willis, OxDeadC0de: any suggestions expect ubuntuforums ?
[16:22] <matisse> except
[16:23] <Dr_willis> OxDeadC0de,  go  for it then..
[16:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[16:23] <Dr_willis> we are at a dead end now anyway
[16:24] <kopertonKDE4> hey guys i have problem with ffmpeg and medibuntu repository
[16:24] <kopertonKDE4> well i have installed every damned packages
[16:25] <dromer> Dr_willis: hmz, still no idea how to get it to work .. altough I am still running 8.04
[16:25] <kopertonKDE4> but it didn't work
[16:25] <dromer> maybe upgrade to 8.10? :/
[16:25] <kopertonKDE4> dromer: for me it's better 8.04
[16:25] <Dr_willis> dromer,  or try envyng! (egads!) :) not that! heh
[16:25] <Lokiase> can please find someone a solution :s
[16:25] <kopertonKDE4> Lokiase: solution for what?
[16:25] <Dr_willis> Ive had very good luck with 8.10 - But i recall some people having nvidia driver issues with some older cards
[16:25] <Lokiase> firefoxcrash :)
[16:26] <Dr_willis> Lokiase,  dont expect a magical fix.  theres somthing deep going on.
[16:26] <Lokiase> then go deep with me :p
[16:26] <kopertonKDE4> Lokiase: well i use konqueror firefox mammuth is left for gnome
[16:26] <kopertonKDE4> xD
[16:26] <dromer> Dr_willis: well, I'm having problems right now too :/
[16:26] <Captain_Haddock> Lokiase: there's an alternative in OperaFYI
[16:26] <zsolti> hi everyone
[16:26] <kopertonKDE4> opera or konqueror
[16:26] <kopertonKDE4> then
[16:26] <Lokiase> no alternative, need firefox :)
[16:26] <Captain_Haddock> hello
[16:26] <zsolti> how do you do?
[16:27] <delicowa> hi @Captain_hadcock
[16:27] <Lokiase> I must be correct, dont need firefox, google chrome is also good, but doesnt work in kubuntu;)
[16:27] <Captain_Haddock> hello delicious cow :P
[16:27] <kopertonKDE4> for me fireofx it's not nice
[16:28] <kopertonKDE4> anyway some way to speed up kde4 ?????
[16:28] <kopertonKDE4> some trick ??
[16:28] <zsolti> I am a new member in the linux s world and I ve some problem windows wireless drivers software. Can anyone help me?
[16:28] <kopertonKDE4> :D
[16:28] <Captain_Haddock> kopertonKDE4: turn of all the fancy stuff maybe
[16:28] <kopertonKDE4> zsolti: what kind of wifi ?
[16:29] <DaSkreech> holycow: blessed beef!
[16:29] <Lokiase> still no firefoxsolution :
[16:29] <Lokiase> :(
[16:29] <Lokiase> but its possible its a kde-issue, can i upgrade/update the kde?
[16:29]  * hannascott pokes DaSkreech
[16:30] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: add irc.mozilla.org to your IRC client and join #firefox
[16:30] <Lokiase> DaSkreech, i did, but no reaction their
[16:30] <Lokiase> there*
[16:30] <OxDeadC0de> lokiase I'm trying to get info on how to install debugging symbols for you, sec
[16:31] <delicowa> hey do we have google chrome on linux
[16:31] <OxDeadC0de> anyone here know if there's a special repository for debug symbols?
[16:31] <OxDeadC0de> delicowa they're working on a linux port.. but you can use it in wine i hear
[16:31] <kopertonKDE4> Captain_Haddock: mah
[16:31] <Captain_Haddock> delicowa: no and I don't think it runs properly on Wine either
[16:31] <DaSkreech> !wifi | zsolti
[16:31] <Lokiase> but like i said, maybe an upgrade of kde will solve the prob, because kde crashes also... where can i optimize kde?
[16:31] <DaSkreech> hannascott: Yes?
[16:31] <Captain_Haddock> conflicting info :)
[16:32] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: Wait KDE crashes as well?
[16:32] <hannascott> DaSkreech: me being annoying, nothing else...
[16:32] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: You are starting to sound very much like hardware issues
[16:32] <Lokiase> DaSkreech, it logges me out for no reason
[16:32] <Lokiase> not always
[16:32] <DaSkreech> hannascott: Come to mine arms!!
[16:32] <Lokiase> but a lot of times
[16:32] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: Check memory and file system
[16:32] <Lokiase> so maybe the kdeprob is not because of firefox but firefox is because of kdeprob
[16:32] <DaSkreech> Use a live CD and run fsck and badblocks
[16:32] <DaSkreech> then run a memory test
[16:33] <DaSkreech> hi courtjesterg
[16:33] <mado> oy gals and guys ...
[16:33] <courtjesterg> i did a fresh reinstall of the os lets see if the cd/rewrite works
[16:33] <Lokiase> DaSkreech, can you repeat please, what do I have to do?
[16:34] <DaSkreech> Lokiase: Run the live CD and run sudo fsck and sudo badblocks on your hard drive
[16:34] <DaSkreech> the first checks your file system the second checks if the drive is failing
[16:34] <Captain_Haddock> is Rubyripper not in the ubuntu repository?
[16:34] <Lokiase> ok
[16:34] <DaSkreech> then run a memory test which is also on he LIve CD (first menu when you boot up)
[16:34] <Lokiase> livecd, so startup kubuntu on cd?
[16:35] <Lokiase> and the shell open
[16:35] <Lokiase> and the commands
[16:35] <Lokiase> correct?
[16:35] <mado> i just installed gnome ... and now i face this error-message -> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".
[16:35] <mado> Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?
[16:35] <OxDeadC0de> no lokiase, pop the cd in, reboot, grub will ask you if you want to install, boot to kubuntu live, or run a mem test
[16:35] <mado> what should i do?
[16:35] <delicowa> ok that's 1
[16:35] <delicowa> 2. how come there are too many complaints about interpid
[16:36] <OxDeadC0de> mado does it do it over and over again if you hit reload? You may need gdm to use that feature dunno
[16:36] <Lokiase> OxDeadC0de, so boot from cd?
[16:36] <holycow> DaSkreech: hallo
[16:36] <Captain_Haddock> delicowa: complaints are mainly for KDE 4.1 rather than intrepid as such
[16:36] <DaSkreech> holycow: How are you?
[16:36] <OxDeadC0de> boot from cd, at the very first screen, hit memtest instead of  boot to kubuntu or install kubuntu
[16:37] <DaSkreech> delicowa: KDE4 is a big jump. Not everyone was ready
[16:37] <mado> erm ... i haven't rebooted yet ... so i don't know ... well ... i choose "don't delete" for the moment and will delete it afterwards if i have to
[16:37] <mado> DaSkreech: true words :)
[16:37] <kopertonKDE4> !paste | zsolti
[16:37] <OxDeadC0de> I really don't think kde4 is completely ready, but it's good enough for me and most of us in here I expect
[16:37] <courtjesterg> be back later going to dl a few things and research
[16:38]  * hannascott looks confused at DaSkreech
[16:38] <Captain_Haddock> OxDeadC0de: agreed.. it's more like a 4.0 beta atm :|
[16:38] <DaSkreech> delicowa: Also its the release after a LTS so people are more likely to throw in new things that will break
[16:38] <DaSkreech> Captain_Haddock: How can 4.1 be a beta for 4.0 ?
[16:38] <hannascott> DaSkreech: Actually, I was talking to blauzahl about a Jamaican thing... what happened with that... is it still on?
[16:38] <OxDeadC0de> captain_haddock hardly :P, in linux a beta is usually fairly stable, alpha is the first release that under windows they'd call "beta" :P
[16:38] <aleite> Hello guys...
[16:38] <Captain_Haddock> DaSkreech: in terms of its readiness
[16:39] <DaSkreech> hannascott:
[16:39] <Captain_Haddock> OxDeadC0de: heh
[16:39] <Captain_Haddock> hi aleite
[16:39] <DaSkreech> Yes in Jan all of KDE komes to Jamaica
[16:39] <aleite> Do you know if there's a google gadgets repository available for intrepid?
[16:39] <DaSkreech> aleite:
[16:39] <DaSkreech> Doubt it.
[16:40] <DaSkreech> Weeee
[16:40] <aleite> I am trying to compile KDE 4.2 trunk with google gadgets support... but didn't want to compile gg itself
[16:40] <hannascott> No not again!
[16:40] <DaSkreech> aleite: Oh no I think for 4.2 you can KGHNS it
[16:40] <hannascott> I really need to help these people out with a server or something...
[16:40] <DaSkreech> hannascott: What would you like to know about KDE Camp?
[16:40] <delicowa> but really I think I should like intrepid and KDE 4
[16:41] <DaSkreech> Captain_Haddock: I dunno I think it's close enough to be considered a .0 release
[16:41] <aleite> DaSkreec: yes, there'll be an option to do so.. but you've got to have the libraries.. I thinkl
[16:41] <DaSkreech> delicowa: Well then that's fine :)
[16:41] <aleite> At least to compile ... :-)
[16:41] <DaSkreech> no one is forcing you to stay on hardy or upgrade to ibex
[16:41] <DaSkreech> Choose whichever one you like
[16:41] <mado> i'll be back
[16:41] <delicowa> but 1 probs its still in download (I have got a slow internet around here)
[16:42] <DaSkreech> aleite: You are following the KDE4 techbase article ?
[16:42] <hannascott> DaSkreech: Well I was just curious, I heard rumours it was off... for some... financial bit... but... I must have got it wrong
[16:42] <DaSkreech> delicowa: Ouch Maybe you can find someone with the DVD?
[16:42] <DaSkreech> hannascott: Rumours are not greatly exaggereted :-)
[16:42] <aleite> Yep, I did.. compiled GG ... but didn't work.. tried #plasma but nobody seems to answer.. :D
[16:42] <DaSkreech> but everything worked out
[16:42] <DaSkreech> aleite: Wait a few hours
[16:42] <OxDeadC0de> aleite: try ./configure --disable-werror
[16:43] <DaSkreech>  they get right chatty right quick
[16:43]  * hannascott goes back to hiding in #kde-cafe
[16:43] <aleite> Well guys.. thanks
[16:43] <DaSkreech> hannascott: #kde-chat
[16:43] <kopertonKDE4> !hungarian | zsolti
[16:43] <aleite> I was wondering if there were packages for that.. you know.. I compiled it and it took ages.. :-)
[16:44] <hannascott> DaSkreech: naa... it is too... you know...
[16:44] <Captain_Haddock> delicowa: there's likely to be a LUG (Linux Users Group) in your city that might be able to help
[16:44] <DaSkreech> hannascott: Yeah I do :)
[16:44] <DaSkreech> hannascott: If you want to know more though we have a IRC chan at #campkde
[16:45] <hannascott> DaSkreech: oh... kinky
[16:45] <delicowa> I suppose but I can't find any
[16:45] <Captain_Haddock> DaSkreech: when basic things such as keyboard shortcuts etc. aren't addressed, it can't claim release status IMO
[16:46] <Captain_Haddock> 4.1 also nuked all my former shortcuts :/
[16:46] <DaSkreech> Captain_Haddock: Which keyboard shortcuts ?
[16:46] <delicowa> well out here in nigeria we don't have lots of linux users
[16:46] <DaSkreech> Captain_Haddock: ow >_<
[16:46] <OxDeadC0de> lol I get all excited about a LUG in my area, only to find their webpage is gone and they havn't met in over a year :O yay
[16:47] <Captain_Haddock> DaSkreech: custom global shortcuts... mainly mimicking windows
[16:47] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: Restart it
[16:47] <Captain_Haddock> delicowa: you might be surprised... if you have a university / college nearby, you should snoop around there
[16:48] <Captain_Haddock> OxDeadC0de: heh
[16:48] <matisse> how do I remove package which aren't needed by others ?
[16:48] <Captain_Haddock> delicowa: you're aware that you can get the install CD mailed to you?
[16:48] <Captain_Haddock> not sure about the DVD
[16:49] <Captain_Haddock> matisse: type sudo apt-get to see all the available options
[16:49] <matisse> synaptic also shows dependencies of packages which aren't even installed
[16:49] <OxDeadC0de> you can get the dvd too but that one costs money and the only real benefit is having all languages available on the dvd
[16:49] <Captain_Haddock> autoremove and autoclean are probably of interest :)
[16:50] <matisse> Captain_Haddock: but i think it will remove my xmms...
[16:51] <matisse> no, not xmms, but beep-media-player
[16:52] <Captain_Haddock> if you do a sudo apt-get upgrade or similar, it usually lists unwanted packages IIRC
[16:52] <matisse> yeah
[16:52] <matisse> you're rigth
[16:53] <Captain_Haddock> delicowa: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ng_linux/ http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/naija-lugs/
[16:53] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: You have all of main on the DVd as well
[16:53] <OxDeadC0de> DaSkreech oh, didn't know that
[16:53] <Captain_Haddock> not terribly active mailing lists... but you might get a response.. they also mention meetings
[16:54] <DaSkreech> and DVDs? :)
[16:54] <mngoldeneagle> Hi... I'm having difficulties getting Ubuntu to work on my computer.  Whenever I log into the GUI, the screen goes all black.  I've tried upgrading and removing FGLRX entirely, but nothing seems to work.  Any suggestions?
[16:55] <OxDeadC0de> mngoldeneagle goes all black? Does KDM/GDM show the login screen?
[16:55] <Captain_Haddock> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[16:55] <mngoldeneagle> KDM shows the login screen, then it goes black.  The sounds play normally and the menu kinda responds in that I can see white boxes appear from the transition effects.
[16:56] <mngoldeneagle> Kubuntu.
[16:56] <OxDeadC0de> mngoldeneagle try alt+shift+f12 if you have quick access to it, to disable compositing
[16:56] <mngoldeneagle> Alright, let me give that a shot.
[16:56] <isaacj87> Tm_T: Hey, you in here?
[16:56] <matisse> whats the difference between remove and totally remove ? (synaptic) Maybe its remove and purge in English... don't know
[16:57] <SlimeyPete> purge will remove all configuration files as well, matisse
[16:57] <DaSkreech> matisse: Korrekt
[16:57] <matisse> ok, thx
[16:58] <mngoldeneagle> 0xDeadC0de: When do I press ALT+SHIFT+F12?  At the login screen or at the black screen?
[16:58] <eraco> can someone help me with my eeepc? where can i download the madwifi thing?
[16:58] <karan> i extracted a TAR.BZ2 type of file using tar xjvf file .bz2 then after that wat should i do to install the package on my comp
[16:58] <OxDeadC0de> after you're logged in, wait until you think it's fully logged in and started
[16:58] <amerigo> !openoffice
[16:58] <matisse> and how do I purge packages which are already removed ? :D
[16:59] <SlimeyPete> karan: there'll probably be a README
[16:59] <Captain_Haddock> matisse: install again and purge, I believe
[16:59] <SlimeyPete> karan: the installation process changes depending on what you're installing and how. Was the package not available in Adept?
[16:59] <matisse> damn
[16:59] <mngoldeneagle> 0xDeadC0de: I tried the sequence after the login finished, but I'm not seeing any effects.  Screen is still black and the menu still... well, odd.
[17:00] <OxDeadC0de> mngoleneagle, does it work properly for new users (Try making a test user)?
[17:00] <OxDeadC0de> mngoldeneagle* /\
[17:01] <Captain_Haddock> mngoldeneagle: try ctrl + alt + F1 , F2 and so on... one of them usually works...
[17:01] <mngoldeneagle> Captain_Haddock: I'm using the Terminal on TTY1 at the moment in order to talk in here.  F7 is the one for the GUI, and that's the one with the black screen and mouse pointer.
[17:02] <Captain_Haddock> cool
[17:02] <karan> i extracted a TAR.BZ2 type of file using tar xjvf file .bz2 then after that wat should i do to install the package on my comp
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> karan: I just answered you
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> read the RE
[17:02] <Captain_Haddock> mngoldeneagle: is this a post install issue or was the system working fine until now?
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> read the README or INSTALL file which was in the archive
[17:02] <mngoldeneagle> 0xDeadC0de: How do I create a new user at the command line?  ... and force KDE to log out of the current user, since I can't see what I'm doing in there?
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> karan: why are you using a tar.bz2 by the way? Was the software not available in Adept?
[17:03] <OxDeadC0de> mngoldeneagle adduser command, and switch to kde and press control+alt+backspace to kill that session
[17:03] <mngoldeneagle> Captain_Haddock: This was after a large update a few weeks ago.  Initial install was fine.
[17:04] <Captain_Haddock> and it's been like this ever since the update? (I take it that this wasn't the upgrade to 8.10)
[17:04] <karan> actually the net at from a friendges with this format my hostel is to slow so i got some packa
[17:05] <matisse> !de
[17:05] <mngoldeneagle> Captain_Haddock: Yeah.  And the initial install was version 8.10, so you are correct.
[17:05] <courtjesterg> philips pcrw804 using k3b it sees the drive ok but i think the problem now lies in it caan't read or reconize a disk/media is in the drive anybody have any insight on this? tryed to make a copy disk when i go into that screen says insert media waas done over again can't even press ok
[17:06] <courtjesterg> even devices recently pluged in doesn't see when i disk is on the drive
[17:06] <Captain_Haddock> mngoldeneagle: and you are not even able to log in - the screen goes black at the log in screen before you can enter the user name and password?
[17:07] <OxDeadC0de> captain_haddock naw kdm renders fine, it's after he starts kde it goes bad
[17:07] <courtjesterg> lol your name is haddock
[17:08] <courtjesterg> see my hand see below watch me dock
[17:08] <Captain_Haddock> that's Captain Haddock to you, sailor
[17:08] <Captain_Haddock> :P
[17:08] <courtjesterg> ahoy where is the jack
[17:09] <courtjesterg> i was a pirate for halloween very cool
[17:09] <Captain_Haddock> courtjesterg: the drive works fine? perhaps check witha  boot CD?
[17:09] <Captain_Haddock> courtjesterg: heh
[17:09] <mngoldeneagle> 0xDeadC0de: Okay, it appears the test user can log in fine.  It's just my username that's screwed up.
[17:09] <courtjesterg> how do i check with a boot cd?
[17:10] <Captain_Haddock> mngoldeneagle: you could try renaming the .kde directory in your home directory and re-login
[17:10] <OxDeadC0de> mngoldeneagle that's what I'd suggest too, mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old
[17:10] <Captain_Haddock> courtjesterg: boot with a live CD for e.g., and see if it works
[17:11] <courtjesterg> ok is the live cd the cd i used to install kubuntu on my harddrive?
[17:11] <Captain_Haddock> and check your BIOS as well to see if it's detected properly
[17:11] <Captain_Haddock> courtjesterg: very likely
[17:11] <courtjesterg> ohh the bios has it detected ;)
[17:11] <Captain_Haddock> good :)
[17:11] <courtjesterg> but is the live cd the same cd i used to install the os on my harddrive
[17:12] <OxDeadC0de> 11.6gb, that's how much software I have installed, yeesh
[17:12] <sakis> kanenas elinas re pedia??????????
[17:12] <Captain_Haddock> yes, but you won't be installing anything this time.. just checking to see if your CD drive works
[17:12] <OxDeadC0de> that's just the software, not personal files..
[17:12] <genii> !gr | sakis
[17:12] <courtjesterg> ok so basically you want me to go into bios change my book device options and put the cd in the the cd/rewrite drive?
[17:13] <dromer> hmmm, so weird X can't detect my tv anymore :/
[17:13] <Captain_Haddock> courtjesterg: yep - make sure that it's not a hardware issue
[17:13] <mngoldeneagle> 0xDeadC0de: Didn't seem to affect anything... should I also rename the .kde4 folder?
[17:13] <courtjesterg> me ccd-rom and cd/rewrite are two seperate drives
[17:13] <courtjesterg> ok
[17:13] <OxDeadC0de> mngoldeneagle give it a try
[17:14] <Captain_Haddock> time to go and get wasted :)
[17:14] <Captain_Haddock> bbl
[17:15] <mngoldeneagle> 0xDeadC0de: Alright, now it works!  Now I just have to reinstall FGLRX and hope it works this time... thanks!
[17:15] <OxDeadC0de> mngoldeneagle np, anytime ^^
[17:28] <kieeeren> Hi, my laptop crashed and now I get Kernel panic - not syncing
[17:28] <kieeeren> How can I boot using a live CD?
[17:28] <kieeeren> I thought that it didn't read the HDD at all
[17:29] <OxDeadC0de> kieeeren the most common way is to go into the bios, set the cdrom as the first boot device, pop in the cd, boot
[17:29] <kieeeren> Yeah, I understand that - but the kernel panic stops the CD from booting
[17:30] <kieeeren> I've tried DSL and Ubuntu
[17:30] <kopertonKDE4> trasparente kicker on kde4?
[17:30] <kopertonKDE4> xD it's hard on new kde
[17:32] <kieeeren> [ 27502911] ---[ end trace ca143223eefdc828 ]---
[17:32] <yuriy> kopertonKDE4: what are you looking for exactly?  if you have desktop effects enabled, the panel is partially transparent with the default theme
[17:32] <kieeeren> Error when booting into live cd
[17:33] <BluesKaj> kopertonKDE4: there is the optional classic menu style. Just right click for options.
[17:33] <genii> kieeeren: Do you have 256Mb or more of Ram?
[17:33] <kopertonKDE4> yuriy: mm i have not effects and i don't want them
[17:33] <yuriy> kopertonKDE4: no effects, no transparency
[17:33] <kieeeren> yeah
[17:34] <kopertonKDE4> omg kde4 sucks
[17:34] <kieeeren> it's either 512 of 1gb, can't remember
[17:34] <genii> kieeeren: OK. Livecd requires minimum 256
[17:34] <BluesKaj> kopertonKDE4: I repeat ,there is the optional classic menu style. Just right click on the kicker for options.
[17:34] <kieeeren> I defiantly have 512 or more
[17:34] <noaXess> i have kubuntu 8.04 with kde3 and kde4 remix..
[17:35] <nemco> #kubuntu-es
[17:35] <noaXess> what about if i upgrade to 8.10.. will the current kde4 be removed and the 8.10 integrated kde4 installed?
[17:35] <kopertonKDE4> BluesKaj: mm well maybe on kde3 that was the correct way but on kde4 it seems not correct  i hope i am saying a wrong thing
[17:36] <BluesKaj> kopertonKDE4: I'm on kde4 and it works on my setup
[17:37] <kopertonKDE4> right button and you can set trasparent stuff?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> no , if you want to get rid of transparency
[17:39] <kopertonKDE4> well i found my way
[17:39] <kopertonKDE4> i have used  transset 0.5
[17:41] <noaXess> has anybody upgraded to 8.10 with installed 8.04 and kde4 remix?
[17:41] <noaXess> will all the kde4 stuff be removed fomr /usr/lib/kde4.. and the user profile?
[17:41] <noaXess> kde4 userprofile?.. will only the kde3 profile be upgraded?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> wowsers.. got my Wii Remote working as a mouse... :) sort of...
[17:47] <Dr_willis> Heh
[17:48] <noaXess> if i have installed kde4 on my 8.04.. is it better to remove kde4 before upgrading to 8.10?
[17:49] <Dr_willis> Not sure it matters...  You will lose kde3 in the upgrade.
[17:49] <Dr_willis> if you want you could remove it I guess
[17:50] <noaXess> Dr_willis: will kde4 for 8.04 be autom. removed with the upgrade
[17:50] <noaXess> ?
[17:50] <Dr_willis> No idea..
[17:50] <Dr_willis> I normally do clean installs.
[17:50] <Dr_willis> I had 1 upgrade fail teriablly here.. and one worked great.. :) so im 1 for 1..
[17:50] <noaXess> Dr_willis: allways? then you made a fresh install of 8.10?
[17:51] <Dr_willis> I have done fresh installs on 3 machines..
[17:51] <Dr_willis> 1 upgrade worked.. one machine i tried to upgrade.. and it failed.. so it gto a clean install also
[17:54] <DaSkreech> Shouldn't I have a PDF printer By default?
[17:55] <OxDeadC0de> bah printers, that's the one thing I really dislike about linux, support for printers is more than mildly lacking in the user friendly arena every time I've tried
[17:55] <OxDeadC0de> but ya daskreech, I have a pdf printer, but I upgraded from 8.04 gnome to 8.10 then installed kde
[17:56] <DaSkreech> bah and humbug
[17:57] <noaXess> Dr_willis: i think i make a backup of my current install and do a upgrade.. just test ;)
[17:58] <DaSkreech> Anyone else can print something and let me know if they have a PDF printer?
[17:58] <OxDeadC0de> I just went to k menu/settings menu not system settings/printers
[17:58] <OxDeadC0de> might be a gnome app tho
[17:59] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: actaully check in okular specifically
[18:00] <OxDeadC0de> yup says "PDF" , then the next line "Print to file (PDF)" and the next is "Print to file (postscript)"
[18:01] <DaSkreech> :-(
[18:02] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: What do you have open in Okular?
[18:02] <OxDeadC0de> daskreech was a kde-look.org .jpg
[18:02] <DaSkreech> OxDeadC0de: Try open a PDF and see if you can print to PDF
[18:03] <Bauldrick> I'm trying to move a file to an SD card - I formatted card it starts to write to it but then fails and turns into read only?
[18:03] <OxDeadC0de> ok trying
[18:03] <delicowa> I seriously need help from any one who has successfully overcome intel 945GME graphics card problem
[18:03] <OxDeadC0de> daskreech now the only thing that comes up is the PDF printer installed with the printer config tool, no print to pdf or print to ps
[18:04] <DaSkreech> Boooooooo
[18:04] <DaSkreech> delicowa: Hit the forums
[18:04] <delicowa> it is still using the vesa driver despite the fact that I have downloaded the interl driver
[18:05] <delicowa> done that found nothing resonable that worked for me
[18:08] <Lan|Around> Hello all. May I ask a question about Kubuntu please?
[18:09] <delicowa> yup what is it...beside I gues that's why this is kubuntu chanell
[18:10] <Lan|Around> Hehe. Well, I installed Kubuntu yesterday and everything works smoothly. My question is about my microphone. It seems to recognise my microphone, something Ubuntu didn't, but it doesn't record anything. I think it might be a volume problem.
[18:10] <Lan|Around> I'm trying to use Skype by the way. I have kmiix and have set all the mic uptions to full sound.
[18:10] <Lan|Around> I don't know what else to do.
[18:11] <Lan|Around> Sorry for the typo's, I type way too fast.
[18:12] <DaSkreech> Try record with something else I guess
[18:12] <DaSkreech> Though I recall skype being a little finicky about sound
[18:12] <Lan|Around> I have tried with a sound recorder but that tells me my sound configurations are wrong but when I go to sound configuration I can see no options I can change.
[18:13] <cyborgnrw> !de
[18:13] <yago> does anyone know how to convert videos to ipod touch format?
[18:14] <Lan|Around> Are there any other volume controllers I can use? Maybe something for oss.
[18:14] <DaSkreech> yago: anything that spits out Mp4 works i think
[18:14] <delicowa> do we have nice multimedia converters on linux?
[18:14] <DaSkreech> Lan|Around: other than alsamixer ?
[18:16] <Lan|Around> Hang on, played around in Alsamixer. I'll see if it works.
[18:16] <chairman> my adept keep crashing on me .something about SIGBART signal 6. How can i get it
[18:17]  * DaSkreech waits for the end of the question
[18:19] <chairman> HELP
[18:19] <Lan|Around> Nope, that didn't work. And the current version of skype doesn't work with Alsa.
[18:20] <Lan|Around> That happened to me Chair. It was because I had given it a wrong source.
[18:20] <Lan|Around> I had to remove it manually.
[18:21] <DaSkreech> chairman: can you apt-get update ?
[18:21] <chairman> THRU terminal
[18:22] <DaSkreech> chairman: yes youll have to sudo it
[18:22] <DaSkreech> so sudo apt-get update
[18:22] <KomiaPoika> hi
[18:22] <KomiaPoika> how can i mount a install cd iso in nfs in kubuntu8?
[18:22] <Fargh> how do i check how many memory it has detected ?
[18:23] <chairman> nope
[18:23] <chairman> no go
[18:23] <DaSkreech> KomiaPoika: eh?
[18:23] <DaSkreech> Fargh: free
[18:23] <DaSkreech> chairman: that's the problem
[18:23] <Guest28818> does anyone knows how to install the last stable version of kde? and get rid off the old one
[18:23] <delicowa> bye y'all
[18:23] <chairman> i need it to get my software...what's the problem?
[18:25] <chairman> DaSkreech what problem?
[18:25] <DaSkreech> chairman: Your sources are dirty. Edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the ones that are causing problems
[18:25] <DaSkreech> Or fix them
[18:25] <DaSkreech> !kde4 | Guest28818
[18:26] <chairman> do i type tht in terminal skreech just like that/
[18:26] <Guest28818> how to install kde :s
[18:28] <DaSkreech> chairman: type in what?
[18:28] <DaSkreech> !kde | Guest28818
[18:29] <chairman> DaSkreech ,how can i get rid of them if i can't get to adept?....what u typed(file/etc/apt/sources.list)
[18:29] <Machtin> how to use the sum-function in speedcrunch
[18:29] <DaSkreech> chairman: press alt+F2 then type kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:30] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: i hace a install iso that i wanna mount in nfs
[18:31] <DaSkreech> What do you mean mount in NFS?
[18:31] <Lan|Around> Hmm nothing works and I can't find an oss mixer that let's me set mic volume.
[18:31] <DaSkreech> chairman: copy all of it and paste it in pastebin
[18:31] <DaSkreech> !paste | chairman
[18:31] <chairman> it says command not found but hold on i'm a try it again
[18:32] <KomiaPoika> DaSkreech: the box that wants to upgrade, downloads from the instlal iso in nfs, ratehr than copy on its own hard drive
[18:32] <DaSkreech> KomiaPoika: Oh
[18:32] <DaSkreech> Ok
[18:32] <Guest28818> hello, I have kde3.4 and I want 4.1, how can I change it?
[18:32] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point -o loop
[18:33] <DaSkreech> Guest28818: You are on hardy ?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> !kde4 | Guest28818
[18:33] <Guest28818> DaSkreech, jes
[18:33] <Guest28818> BluesKaj, dont understand the links
[18:34] <courtjesterg> ok i am dumb
[18:35] <courtjesterg> i don't know any commands in the kconsole or how to really use it properly
[18:35] <DaSkreech> Guest28818: You need to add a new repository in Hardy to get KDE4
[18:35] <chairman> it keeps getting error;command not found
[18:35] <courtjesterg> noticed when activateing my 96 driver i get the font bug and this isn't with wine no wine is installed
[18:35] <DaSkreech> courtjesterg: That's fine ask what you need and we'll tell you what to do
[18:36] <DaSkreech> chairman: what did you type in ?
[18:36] <Guest28818> DaSkreech, please help me step by step, cannot do it without ;)
[18:36] <courtjesterg> i read this  on this page confused i am
[18:36] <courtjesterg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/251107
[18:36] <maggo79> hi, has anyone tested the new ati drivers (8.11)? http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[18:36] <courtjesterg> it talked about editing my x-config file how do i do that where do i go
[18:36] <chairman> kdesudo kate/etc/apt/sources.list
[18:37] <maggo79> I'm getting a MD5 error
[18:37] <DaSkreech> Guest28818: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1
[18:37] <BluesKaj> interesting that konversation still shows as kde3.5.1 in the Help/about kde tab in Intrepid
[18:37] <DaSkreech> chairman: space between kate and /etc
[18:37] <courtjesterg> i do know if i update my graphic driver to 173 fonts reappear but again this driver isn't actually supporting all my functions
[18:38] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: It's a KDE 3 application running in KDE3 space why shouldn't it?
[18:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, but why isn't it upgraded , DaSkreech
[18:39] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: To what? KDE4? The maintainer has not gotten around to it
[18:39] <chairman> ok Kate came up
[18:40] <DaSkreech> chairman: copy that to pastebin
[18:41] <chairman> copy...or save cuz i don't see to copy
[18:44] <DaSkreech> !paste | chairman
[18:45] <courtjesterg> where do you go to edit you x-config file?
[18:45] <courtjesterg> so i changed the nv to nvidia
[18:46] <courtjesterg> i see the nvidia rc file but i don't thinks this is the file they are talking about
[18:46] <courtjesterg> hence no words with nv in the doc
[18:47] <DaSkreech>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:47] <chairman> can't i just save it cuz when i paste it repeats itself
[18:47] <TWTNW> hello
[18:48] <Pentaho-Nick> Can anyone recommend a replacement for Emerald? I've just had so much trouble with it under 4.0
[18:48] <TWTNW> could somebody help me?
[18:48] <DaSkreech> chairman: Sorry?
[18:48] <DaSkreech> where are you pasting it?
[18:49] <DaSkreech> !somebody | TWTNW
[18:49] <DaSkreech> Pentaho-Nick: WHy are you still using 4.0 ?
[18:49] <chairman> on kate ..actually on  the document itself
[18:49] <DaSkreech> chairman: no paste it in the site http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:50] <DaSkreech> give us the URL that it gives you when you save it on the site
[18:50] <Pentaho-Nick> I'm not, prtty sure 4.1.11 or whatever is on the Repos
[18:50] <DaSkreech> Pentaho-Nick: Ok and you are using Compiz ?
[18:51] <TWTNW> can anyone help me with my video device's restricted driver?
[18:51] <chairman> ok do i save it then paste or what
[18:51] <Pentaho-Nick> yes I am
[18:52] <TWTNW> !somebody
[18:52] <DaSkreech> TWTNW: Which video card?
[18:52] <DaSkreech> Pentaho-Nick: No offense intended but why ?
[18:52] <TWTNW> why can't I start with 'can somebody'?
[18:53] <arash> Hello, what's the replacement for Katapult in KDE4, I found it very useful
[18:53] <Pentaho-Nick> My window decorations command is "emerald --replace" and it just hasn't been stable for me
[18:53] <TWTNW> oh...
[18:53] <Pentaho-Nick> Haha... I get bored and the pretty borders entertain my creative side
[18:54] <TWTNW> via-technology S3 unichrome pro vga adapter
[18:54] <TWTNW> if I run lspci in terminal, it writes:
[18:54] <TWTNW> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
[18:55] <chairman> it saved it automatically  now what?~!
[18:57] <TWTNW> I need these drivers for compiz-fusion's desktop effects
[18:58] <DaSkreech> arash: Currently krunner
[18:58] <DaSkreech> chairman: The website should now have a new URL Give us that URL here
[18:58] <DaSkreech> TWTNW: >_< Unichrome has really bad drivers
[18:59] <chairman> what URL? THERE'S NOT ONE
[18:59] <TWTNW> I know, I bought this computer in 2001
[19:00] <TWTNW> it's really old, but other desktop effects don't make it slower
[19:00] <DaSkreech> chairman: which web site are you on?
[19:01] <TWTNW> so, and however, WHERE CAN I FIND THEM?
[19:01] <chairman> FIRST OF ALL I NOT ON A WEBSITE .I'M STILL STUCK ON KATE WHICH SAVED THIS DOCUMENT AND NOTHING HAPPENED SINCE
[19:01] <TWTNW> P.S.: I use KDE 4.1
[19:02] <LjL> chairman, lowercase works fine
[19:02] <chairman> Sorry ..just frustrated
[19:02] <TWTNW> P.P.S.:I'm italian
[19:03] <DaSkreech> chairman: copy the contents of what's in kate to the website http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:03] <CyborgNRW> !de
[19:03] <DaSkreech> !it
[19:04] <DaSkreech> INstall the unichrome drivers I would suppose
[19:04] <DaSkreech> pray they work
[19:04] <chairman> it won't let me copy just save tht's it
[19:04] <TWTNW> isn't there any italian channel espetially about Kubuntu?
[19:04] <TWTNW> !it
[19:05] <genii> DaSkreech: Sorry not to be of more help today. My eyes are watering from a horrible headache
[19:05] <DaSkreech> TWTNW: nope they will have to answer you in #ubuntu-it
[19:05] <DaSkreech> genii: Too much Koffee?
[19:05] <chairman> sources.list
[19:05] <genii> DaSkreech: Not sure, perhaps.
[19:06] <SimplySeth> printer config applet seems to be missing the lpr printer option
[19:06] <CyborgNRW> hi @ all :)
[19:06] <DaSkreech> chairman: yes copy the sources.list to that website then give us the URL
[19:06] <DaSkreech> SimplySeth: Far as I know lpr was removed in favour of cups
[19:07] <chairman> no copy ...just save tht's it
[19:07] <SimplySeth> DaSkreech: okay ... so how do I connect to an remote lpd printer ?
[19:07] <chairman> do i got to uninstall this again and reinstall?
[19:07] <DaSkreech> chairman: And I'm telling you to copy it to that site. I don't thik that you are aware enough to know what may be wrong with the file
[19:08] <chairman> it won't let me copy tht's what i said the last time DaSkreech
[19:08] <DaSkreech> chairman: no just press ctrl+a in kate then ctrl+c go to http://paste.ubuntu.com then press ctrl+v in the spot to write
[19:08] <DaSkreech> chairman: If the file is open it will let you copy
[19:09] <DaSkreech> If nothing else usethe mouse and highlight the entire file
[19:09] <DaSkreech> then you can paste with the middle mouse button
[19:10] <peratu> Hi :-)
[19:10] <DaSkreech> !hi
[19:12] <peratu> I'm trying to install Kubuntu 8.10, but I receive an error. I think that it is because my dvd drive is SATA. The error is in /dev/sr0 (/dev/sda0) I have already installed Kubuntu 8.04. These version didn't has this error.
[19:12] <peratu> How I can install the new 8.10?
[19:13] <fyn> So intrepid went well.  Old fglrx with the old kernel was working.  Put the new kernel and new fglrx (8.11) but now the module is missing a symbol miZeroLineScreenIndex  .... anyone have a workaround for this?  (fglrx 8.11)
[19:14] <DaSkreech> chairman: You can use the mouse to copy
[19:14] <SimplySeth> peratu: there is an OS upgrade option you can search on ubuntu.com
[19:14] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[19:14] <fyn> Alternatively, any word on if xv is supported on an HD3850 with either radeon or radeonhd?
[19:14] <peratu> SimplySeth, i don't want to upgrade my system from 8.04. I want intall the new 8.10 from scratch :-)
[19:14] <courtjesterg> envy what ios envy for when i first started this os someone directed envy for my graphics card? But adept has all drivers so why go to envy?
[19:15] <peratu> SimplySeth, because I have more machines with the same hardware configuration, and I have the same error in each one :-)
[19:17] <maggo79> fyn: xv works with the fglrx driver from intrepid. I only have problems with xv _and_ desktop-effects
[19:18] <maggo79> fyn: I have a hd3850
[19:18] <courtjesterg> envy makes no sense everyone should know what drivers they are suppose to use g2 71 ge 3 96  ge 4 can use 96
[19:18] <peratu> I missed to say I have tried with the LiveCD and the Alternate CD... The same error in both.
[19:23] <MisterL> !kde
[19:23] <MisterL> !kde4
[19:24] <edi_99> Hi guys, how do I reinstall grub form live cd?
[19:27] <Gunmetal> I just installed 8.10 on a Fujitsu laptop. The bottom half of the screen keeps blinking.  Any help please?
[19:27] <KomiaPoika> Gunmetal: your xorg.conf parameters must be wrong
[19:28] <Gunmetal> KomiaPoika:Gnome works good.  Could it be something in KDE?
[19:29] <KomiaPoika> Gunmetal: gnome works good on the same linux distribution??
[19:29] <Gunmetal> Yeah, I have run gnome sessions also.
[19:30] <Gunmetal> KomiaPoika:  Yeah, I have run gnome sessions also. I am running gdm. Could that be it??
[19:31] <KomiaPoika> if kde and gnome rely on the exact same linux system and xorg.conf and kde blinks and gnome not then yes there must be something wrong with your kde install
[19:34] <Gunmetal> KomiaPoika: hmmm. it did this  running the live cd too.. it a shame.  I wanted to use KDE.
[19:38] <DaSkreech> Gunmetal: KDE4 ?
[19:40] <khakane> could someone help me out? running Hardy Kubuntu, i plug an USB drive in machine, and the device does not show up in dolphin anymore.  worked fine for months..  when i plugin i DO get a /dev/sd* assignment, but wont show up in dolphin places
[19:41] <DaSkreech> khakane: KDE3?
[19:42] <khakane> kde 4.1
[19:43] <DaSkreech> Do you have the Hardware manager thinghy? :)
[19:43] <DaSkreech> It pops up from the panel when you put in a new USB device
[19:43] <khakane> what would that be? lol
[19:43] <khakane> nah
[19:49] <DaSkreech> khakane: Drat :) Can you mount manually?
[19:51] <AgraWork> Is there some easy way for me to disable dolphin and use Konquerer exclusivly?
[19:52] <khakane> DaSkreech: yup
[19:53] <DaSkreech> AgraWork: in konqueror Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File associations -> inode -> swap dolphin for konqueror
[19:58] <khakane> ugh i wanna kick this thing in the face
[19:59] <Cyborg_NRW> !de
[20:01] <oversize_> hi, somehow my Alt+Tab window switcher is not behavin as expected anymore, i might have **** it. Which package could i just reinstall the corresponsing packe to maybe fix the problem? which one would that be? the kwin effects for Alt+Tab switching dont work too, althoug they are enabled. thx
[20:03] <AgraWork> DaSkreech, Thanks much
[20:04] <DaSkreech> oversize_: mv ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ~/kwinrc.bkup
[20:04] <oversize_> and just reboot ?
[20:04] <DaSkreech> and logout then back in
[20:05] <DaSkreech> or just run killall kwin && mv ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ~/kwinrc.bkp && kwin &
[20:05] <khakane> this is the most annoying small problem ive ran into lol
[20:06] <Cyborg_NRW> Hi... i hope some on can help me... i have installed the ATI driver with envy... envy configured my xorg.conf too, but direct rendering still dont work... guild wars lags very much... have some one a solution for my problem?
[20:06] <blek> hello
[20:07] <blek> have you adress for kubuntu in french please
[20:07] <Cyborg_NRW> !fr
[20:08] <blek> thank's
[20:08] <Cyborg_NRW> np ^^
[20:13] <oversize> DaSkreech: thank you! :D
[20:15] <ubuntu-dron> hello
[20:15] <ubuntu-dron> please share a link to nvidia bug discussion on KDE
[20:16]  * locke xz
[20:17] <DaSkreech> Cyborg_NRW: Have you checked in #winehq ?
[20:17] <ubuntu-dron> I've just discovered one interesting thing
[20:17] <Cyborg_NRW> no.. because i think its a driver problem... glxinfo tell me that direct rendering is disabled
[20:18] <ubuntu-dron> while OOo opened the whole the desktop and applet begins to flicker, but it doesn't affect Lancelot, yet the problem is severe for app-launcher plasmoid
[20:19] <ubuntu-dron> any thoughts on that point?
[20:21] <DaSkreech> ubuntu-dron: Are you opening a OpenGL enabled ODF?
[20:21] <ubuntu-dron> no, yet OGL is enabled in OOo
[20:23] <ubuntu-dron> DaSkreech: in fact, disabling OpenGL within OOo doesn't solve the flickering
[20:24] <DaSkreech> ubuntu-dron: Can I clear up something? As long as OOo is opened that happens or only while it's opening ?
[20:25] <ubuntu-dron> DaSkreech: as long as OOo is opened, it was suggested, that that was a bug within the nvidia proprietary driver
[20:26] <ubuntu-dron> DaSkreech: But only now I've discovered, that it doesn't in fact affect Lancelot
[20:26] <DaSkreech> ubuntu-dron: Oh Ahmm. I'm figuring if you disable overlays or DRI it will stop that
[20:26] <mario> hi guys i have been a week trying to ad osx over grub, does any body work with that before
[20:27] <ubuntu-dron> DaSkreech: But then, I presume, no direct rendering is admitted
[20:27] <DaSkreech> mario: Sorry?
[20:27] <DaSkreech> you want to dual boot between OSX and Linux ?
[20:28] <DaSkreech> ubuntu-dron: Right but I have no idea if that's the right answer I'm just proposing an avenue for a work around
[20:28] <mario> yes
[20:28] <DaSkreech> !refit
[20:28] <DaSkreech> mario: You are looking for refit not grub it's much better
[20:29] <mario> i installer kubuntu, windows xp and osx, windows and linux are workin fine, but the grub doesn't recognize the osx for that
[20:29] <mario> reason the osx does't start up
[20:29] <DaSkreech> try refit it will swap between The OSX bootloader and Linux
[20:29] <mario> i red a lot on internet, and made every thing that people say but noting good
[20:30] <DaSkreech> Linux will then swap between Linux and WIndows
[20:30] <DaSkreech> hi tackat
[20:30] <mario> linux and windows are working good
[20:30] <mario> but osx does't start up
[20:31] <mario> othe issue that i have right know with kubuntu is wpa support for my network, the system can't autenticate on my wifi with wpa any idea, i tried to install wpa supplicant but nothing happend
[20:31] <DaSkreech> !wpa
[20:32] <glkasleg> firefox plugins seem to be missing - do i have to install them manually like in the old days or can I do like i do in ubuntu (ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[20:32] <isaacj87> glkasleg: which one is missing?
[20:32] <mario> thank you Daskreech
[20:32] <glkasleg> isaacj87: everything except java
[20:32] <aparedes> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:33] <isaacj87> glkasleg: yeah, You can install what aparedes said
[20:33] <glkasleg> isaacj87: done that - nothing happened - I'll try once more - does it work for you like watching web-tv and so on?
[20:36] <glkasleg> isaacj87: do you think ubuntu-restricted-extras will work?
[20:37] <glkasleg> isaacj87: I still have got only java and flash
[20:37] <DaSkreech> glkasleg: What do you want?
[20:40] <szrhawaii> need a file name i forgot what the file name is to switch the amarok icon in my system tray
[20:40] <szrhawaii> i know where to change the regular ones but where do i go to change the system tray icon
[20:40] <isaacj87> glkasleg: No, I don't installing ubuntu-restricted-extras will help. Try looking at this link: http://mustakim.blogster.com/streaming-multimedia-on-ubuntu-kubuntu
[20:42] <szrhawaii> nah hes talking about a totally different type of modifications
[20:43] <szrhawaii> anyone know the file name to change my system tray icon for my amarok
[20:43] <tino> #ubuntu-es
[20:43] <szrhawaii> i have kde
[20:47] <glkasleg> DaSkreech: I have only got java and flash plugins in firefox - I have installed kubuntu-restricted-extras - in uuntu this package gave me every plugins I could need
[20:48] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Probably in /usr/share/icons
[20:48] <szrhawaii> nah i tried that
[20:48] <DaSkreech> glkasleg: Right what plugins are you looking for
[20:49] <szrhawaii> let look again
[20:49] <DaSkreech> :-)
[20:49] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii:
[20:49] <DaSkreech> #amarok might help
[20:50] <urbinek> hi
[20:52] <NLeeepc> tell me how is kubuntu 8.10 is it stable
[20:53] <DaSkreech> NLeeepc: No idea get a Live Cd and check on your system
[20:53] <Ovi> i went back to 8.04
[20:54] <Ovi> kde 4 is too buggy IMHO
[20:54] <bipolar> Is anyone here using an at&t "mercury" 3g usb dongle with hardy? if so I've built a package to update the sierra module to support it that I need some testing on :)
[20:55] <glkasleg> DaSkreech: I need plugins to play web-tv - I installed mozilla-mplayer now - it seems i've got every plugins I need by doing that - Is mplayer a ok embedded videoplayer or should I use totem?
[20:57] <szrhawaii> anyone know where to find the battery file for switching that icon set
[20:58] <atom^x> no text in menus? open office k3b kmymoney and many others?
[20:58] <DaSkreech> atom^x: is your xfs running ?
[20:58] <ubuntu> I'm in live cd and i ahve probleme give me again unbuntu  french please
[20:58] <atom^x> yes
[20:59] <atom^x> fresh install of 8.20
[20:59] <atom^x> oops 8.10
[20:59] <blek> I'm in live cd and i ahve probleme give me again unbuntu  french please. sorry for bad pseudo
[21:01] <szrhawaii> does anyone know the file name to change my battery icon set
[21:03] <blek> desole pour le francais mais je suis en live cd et je cherche a rejoindre ubuntu en francais merci
[21:03] <Chunky> !fr
[21:03] <Chunky> :)
[21:03] <blek> thank's
[21:03] <Chunky> enchanté de pouvoir t'aider :)
[21:03] <Chunky> Hey there
[21:04] <Pentaho-Nick> Anyone else having trouble upgrading kdelibs5? I'm getting a conflict that I can't track down
[21:04] <TEUTATEX> hello
[21:05] <pucko-> pentaho-nick, are you upgrading from hardy?
[21:05] <Chunky> What is exactly the glx extension? is it possible to upgrade glx from 1.2 to 1.3 on a GMA 950 graphic card?
[21:06] <Pentaho-Nick> Yea going Intrepid
[21:06] <Chunky> Or is it an hardware feature?
[21:06] <robin_> hey is anyone gaming on lynux
[21:06] <Chunky> I'm totally confused with that...
[21:06] <pucko-> pentaho-nick, I had problem with kdelibs too on that upgrade. what exactly does it say?
[21:06] <Chunky> robin_: yep: wc3 wow
[21:06] <robin_> is it working properly?
[21:07] <Chunky> robin_: perfectly
[21:07] <robin_> with wine?
[21:07] <JontheEchidna> Chunky: It's a graphics driver feature that directly implements 3D acceleration
[21:07] <JontheEchidna> or, basically the driver's 3D implemetation
[21:08] <Pentaho-Nick> It's saying BREAK (upgrade) in adept, but all the conflicts it lists it seems to replace as well
[21:08] <Pentaho-Nick> I don't know the apt-get switch to get verbose
[21:08] <szrhawaii> how do i save a file as a xpm file
[21:08] <szrhawaii> or how do i make one at that
[21:09] <TEUTATEX> installing kubuntu for the first time to my laptop. works with wireless broadband stick?
[21:10] <Pentaho-Nick> The following packages have been kept back:
[21:10] <Pentaho-Nick>   kde4libs-bin kdelibs5
[21:10] <Chunky> JontheEchidna: ok. Thanks for the info.
[21:11] <Smittie> Can someone help me? I need to change my monitor resolution to 1920x1080. Was trying from xorg.conf, but with no luck
[21:12] <atom^x> DaSkreech -> the text is there, sort of... it is behind the dialog box that opens. you can see it there briefly
[21:12] <pucko-> pentaho-nick, don't know much about adept, I think I solved it by temporarily removing some package it complained about (and reinstalling it after upgrade)... but I think runnig apt-get dist-upgrade gives you more information. not sure how to solve it in your case though
[21:13] <DaSkreech> atom^x: Are the menus black?
[21:13] <atom^x> no, they look normal...
[21:13] <Pentaho-Nick> Thanks Pucko. I ran that earlier from apt-get and this is where I'm at. I'll manually remove the conflicting packages as you have suggested
[21:15] <atom^x> 7.10 was great, then i thought i would upgrade and everything went to heck... Killed the upgrade formated and did fresh install same thing
[21:15] <Chunky> I cannot find anything about the support of glx 1.3 by intel GMA 950 chipsets...
[21:17] <Chunky> Currently searching on intel website. Can anyone with a gma 950 chipset tell me his/her version of glx?
[21:18] <Linuturk> how do I mount a floppy? It isn't showing up in removable storage
[21:18] <szrhawaii> how do i make a so splash file
[21:19] <DaSkreech> atom^x: you upgraded from 7.10 to 8.10 ?
[21:20] <atom^x> 7.10 ->8.04 ->8.10 but i killed that and did a fresh install of 8.10 but it has same exact problems with the text
[21:21] <atom^x> even used a different HD to install 8.10
[21:21] <JontheEchidna> atom^x: what drivers are you using?
[21:22] <atom^x> video? nvidia
[21:22] <JontheEchidna> There is a known issue with the nvidia legacy drivers and text rendering
[21:23] <Linuturk> how do i access a floppy?
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> it's a regression in the new beta drivers, which unfortunately are required to be able to work with the kernel
[21:23] <sourcemaker> what is a akonadi resource in kontact?
[21:23] <atom^x> it is the newest one released
[21:23] <atom^x> 96.something
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> atom^x: yes, that's the driver affected
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> if you turn off desktop effects text should come back to most apps
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> except for Wine
[21:24] <atom^x> will try that!
[21:25] <DaSkreech> Linuturk: You can mount it with sudo mount /dev/floppy /path/to/empty/dir
[21:25] <DaSkreech> sourcemaker: a link to the akonadi database anythign saved there can be seen by any Akonadi app It's quite neat
[21:26] <Linuturk> DaSkreech: and if /dev/floppy isn't there ;(
[21:26] <atom^x> well, heck... that was it.
[21:26] <SimplySeth> Linuturk: /dev/fd0 ?
[21:26] <Linuturk> nope, a directory /dev/fd is there
[21:26] <sourcemaker> DaSkreech: it is stable to use? can I replace for example a vcard resource woth akonadi?
[21:26] <JontheEchidna> yup, hopefully nvidia fixes the problem before the next stable driver release
[21:26] <Linuturk> and it has a bunch of numbers under it
[21:26] <atom^x> where did you find that info at?
[21:26] <JontheEchidna> I ran into the bug myself ;)
[21:27] <atom^x> THANKS! I was going bald!
[21:27] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[21:27] <JontheEchidna> bug 294076
[21:27]  * JontheEchidna slaps ubottu
[21:28] <JontheEchidna> https://launchpad.net/bugs/294076
[21:28] <SimplySeth> Linuturk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3687
[21:28] <SimplySeth> Linuturk:  and make sure floppy is enabled in the BIOS
[21:28] <Linuturk> modprobe floppy
[21:28] <Linuturk> that fixed it
[21:28] <Linuturk> thanks :)
[21:30] <DaSkreech> !search easy_install
[21:30] <DaSkreech> liar
[21:32] <Dr_willis> !search is broken
[21:32] <SimplySeth> to set the speed and duplex of a NIC ... do I have to do a custom init script is there another way ?
[21:32] <Dr_willis> :) or not
[21:32] <Dr_willis> SimplySeth,  i guess ya could set them from rc.local but ive never needed tomanually set those
[21:32] <Dr_willis> c
[21:32] <SimplySeth> Dr_willis: whut I was afearin' .. thanks :)
[21:33] <Dr_willis> fearing? what were you expecting?  why are you even needing to mess with it?
[21:33] <SimplySeth> Dr_willis: at work .. the switch ports are set to 100 full and I like to setup my NICs accordingly :)
[21:34] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. they should auto switch to 100 then..
[21:35] <SimplySeth> Dr_willis: its all good .. I'm not too afraid a hackin' .. I just wished the option could be put in the interfaces file
[21:35] <sourcemaker> can I already use strigi for desktop search in kde 4.1.3?
[21:35] <Dr_willis> Not much hacking to it..  a commnd in rc.local
[21:35] <Dr_willis> i forget if its ifconfig, or ethtool that does it
[21:36] <Dr_willis>
[21:37] <SimplySeth> Dr_willis: ethtool
[21:37] <Daisuke_Ido> hrm...  ubuntu on ARM7
[21:38] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: You were saying ? :-)
[21:38] <Dr_willis> about what?
[21:38]  * Dr_willis is playing FreeCol in the other screen. :P
[21:38] <DaSkreech> !search something
[21:39] <Dr_willis> !search for alien life
[21:39] <DaSkreech> Man I love to love Freecol
[21:39] <DaSkreech> I knew the ubuntu forums were strange!
[21:39] <vorian> what the
[21:39] <DaSkreech> I download all the new versions of Freecol and never play it :(
[21:39] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: LOL at lgpl
[21:40] <Dr_willis> Im seeing some bugs in the ones in the repos.
[21:40] <vorian> dude
[21:40] <DaSkreech> Forward the bugs upstream
[21:40] <vorian> PriceChild: see ubuntu found list
[21:40]  * DaSkreech hats on Ubuntu Gmes team
[21:40] <Dr_willis> They will say 'use the latest version'
[21:40] <Dr_willis>  which is not the one in the repos. :)
[21:40] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: It's in the Jaunty Repos :)
[21:40] <DaSkreech> Go Jackalope!
[21:41] <Dr_willis>  /me think the silly animal names have gone far enough
[21:41] <Dr_willis>
[21:42] <jcd> hi guys, I have a little trouble with Intrepid on one of my systems and I'd like to ask if you have some hint on where I should look for to solve it.
[21:42] <jcd> So here is the deal. My system used to run hardy kde 3.5 quite well.
[21:43] <jcd> I even tested KDE4 on it and it was working mostly OK even if there were some application missing in order to swithch to it.
[21:43] <DaSkreech> *cough* BasKet
[21:44] <jcd> Now this same system will boot the Intrepid CD OK and get to the KDE desktop
[21:44] <sjdurfey> ahh, i just started using BasKet!
[21:45] <jcd> But once there, any time I type on the keyboard or I click on the mouse the display goes dark for a few seconds to then get back to normal until I type again
[21:45] <DaSkreech> sjdurfey: Great great app
[21:45] <PriceChild> vorian: wrong window?
[21:45] <sjdurfey> DaSkreech: yes, it has loads of potential, im glad i finally found something that i could use in lieu of Microsofts OneNote. now i have no real reason to boot into windows
[21:46] <vorian> PriceChild: yep
[21:46] <DaSkreech> It's a very good replacement for it
[21:46] <jcd> So with the display going black any time I try to do something with the system it is quite unusable.
[21:46] <sjdurfey> yeah, and once tablet support is, well, better than what it is now, it will be even better
[21:46] <sjdurfey> ive never been able to get my tablet working in any linux distro
[21:47] <Dr_willis> My old wacom graphfire works...
[21:47] <jcd> Did you already hear of such symptoms?
[21:47] <Dr_willis> but i have no need for it much :)
[21:47] <sjdurfey> yeah, ive heard wacom tablets work well, and unfortunantely i dont have a wacom tablet in my tablet pc
[21:49] <sjdurfey> BasKet is one open source project i would love to contribute to. i had spent a good 2 weeks thinking about creating my own OneNote replacement for linux, and then i stumbled upon that one
[21:50] <DaSkreech> #basket-devel
[21:50] <sjdurfey> thanks
[21:50] <wazon> hi
[21:50] <DaSkreech> add it to your auto join lists Mostly Europe devs so wake up early  if you are states side :)
[21:51] <sjdurfey> haha, will do! im usually up pretty late, so maybe that will work for me
[21:52] <sjdurfey> im trying to figure out how to change the icon of a program in the start menu, and i cant seem to figure out how
[21:53] <DaSkreech> read the freedesktop spec?
[21:53] <sjdurfey> ive never done that
[21:54] <sjdurfey> im pretty new to linux, there is sooooooo much information to read up on
[21:54] <DaSkreech> It'll mention some cache in there somewhre all desktops should use which should pull from some FHS location. Zap that and desktop wide changeage!
[21:54] <bdgraue> u can use the menu editor
[21:54] <Mingo> is there any channel to ask for Bind configuration info???
[21:54] <DaSkreech> Welcome to Linux and KDE!
[21:54] <sjdurfey> thanks!
[21:54] <DaSkreech> Mingo: man bind ?
[21:54] <sjdurfey> bdgraue: where do i get to that?
[21:55] <Mingo> i need something more specific
[21:55] <bdgraue> sjdurfey: right klick in the menubutton work for me
[21:55] <Mingo> cause i need to do RDNS
[21:55] <sjdurfey> wait, i added the app that way, but there wasnt an option, or atleast i didnt see one, that allowed me to change the icon
[21:55] <Mingo> and im having some problems
[21:55] <sjdurfey> ah, nm, i figured it out
[21:56] <sjdurfey> i didnt realize you had to click on the old icon itself to be able to change the icon
[21:56] <DaSkreech> Mingo: http://www.zorge.net/?p=20
[21:57] <DaSkreech> http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-27399.html
[21:57] <DaSkreech> sjdurfey: Oh.. yeah ..Umm Surprise!!!
[21:57] <Machiavelli> Kubuntu isn't finding any wireless networks, any help would be appreciated.
[21:57] <sjdurfey> haha, yeah
[21:58] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[21:59] <Mingo> thnx DaSkreech i guess the secon link its what i need
[22:01] <jcd> Hi guys, let's try again. I have a little trouble with Intrepid on one of my systems and I'd like to ask if you have some hint on where I should look for to solve it. So here is the deal. My system used to run hardy kde 3.5 quite well. I even tested KDE4 on it and it was working mostly OK even if there were some application missing in order to switch to it. Now this same system will boot the Intrepid CD OK and get to the KDE desktop.
[22:01] <jcd> But once there, any time I type on the keyboard or I click on the mouse the display goes dark for a few seconds to then get back to normal until I type again. So with the display going black any time I try to do something with the system it is quite unusable. Did you already hear of such symptoms?
[22:05] <Machiavelli> i think my wifi card is recognized, but its still not picking up any networks
[22:05] <DaSkreech> jcd: Do things work?
[22:06] <jorginno> hola
[22:06] <jorginno> necesito una ayuda, por favor
[22:06] <szrhawaii> does anyone know of a chat room on changing icons for kde
[22:07] <jorginno> i have a problem with my kubuntu and audio
[22:07] <szrhawaii> or can anyone tell me where the icon set for the battery icon in your system is located in the root file so i can change it
[22:08] <szrhawaii> icon help
[22:08] <szrhawaii> need locations in root folder
[22:08] <szrhawaii> to change my battery icon
[22:08] <szrhawaii> anyone know where it is
[22:08] <szrhawaii> help help help
[22:09] <Dr_willis> Yea - the battery icon is so Critical....
[22:09] <szrhawaii> no its not
[22:09] <szrhawaii> its just a icon
[22:10] <szrhawaii> im not changing nothing but that
[22:10] <jcd> DaSkreech: The system is "working" but due to the display going black for few sec any time I try to interact with it, it is not easy to use. But no crash ar anything like that as far as I can tell
[22:10] <szrhawaii> i would like one that looks better though
[22:10] <szrhawaii> which i have but i cant find the file anymore
[22:10] <szrhawaii> ive changed it before
[22:11] <DaSkreech> jcd: Turn off Desktop effects
[22:11] <szrhawaii> if i remember correctly its in the same spot the wireless icon is in
[22:11] <szrhawaii> anyone know where that is
[22:11] <jcd> DaSkreech: I don't think I have any Desktop effect turned on
[22:12] <DaSkreech> jcd: It's on by default. Press alt+f3 -> properties
[22:13] <jcd> DaSkreech: Done, still same behavior. Note that my graphic is low end 2D graphic from SIS.
[22:13] <DaSkreech> Ugh sis
[22:14] <jcd> DaSkreech: Well this is my motherboard built in graphic
[22:15] <jcd> DaSkreech: well I am not user I tuened off anything yet. What is the way to turn evrything off through tthe menu
[22:16] <jcd> DaSkreech: on the configuration pannel, all desktop effect are off
[22:17] <jcd> and they are off by default (because of my low end graphic maybe)
[22:18] <jcd> this low end graphic was working OK on KDE 3.5 and it runs OK on Intrepid if I switch to XFCE for example.
[22:18] <nemco> #kubuntu-es
[22:22] <jcd> DaSkreech: actually it seems I can't activate desktop effect on my system. Is KDE4 unable to work on relatively low end graphic boards
[22:23] <Dr_willis> basically yes...
[22:23] <jcd> basicallt, it can or it can not ...
[22:24] <Dr_willis> KDE has much higher video demands
[22:24] <Dr_willis> 4>3
[22:25] <jcd> yes I understand this but I was expecting it would still work if effects were disabled.
[22:26] <jcd> I don't want to add a graphic board when I don't really plan to use any 3D graphic effects. I am using my system for anything but 3D
[22:26] <trappist> anybody else seen this?  I went with compiz instead of the kde4 effects.  if I have kontact on one side of the cube and firefox on another, and click a link in, say, akregator, it works but firefox jumps to the same desktop as kontact.  it didn't do this in hardy.
[22:29] <jcd> For exemple, how is KDE going to address all the relatively low end netbook out there? Their graphic might not be that great (well maybe they are better thant my SIS anyway)
[22:34] <sxeba> !es
[22:34] <DaSkreech> jcd: Probably an Xorg issue with graphics
[22:35] <DaSkreech> jcd: You can take it up in #plasma for a more direct answer
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:36] <jcd> DaSkreech: The system is still running OK on XFCE so Xorg seems OK even if its interaction with KDE4 is not
[22:36] <jcd> But I'll try #plasma
[22:36] <DaSkreech> jcd: I know but KDE4 does things no one else does
[22:36] <Dr_willis> plus kde4 isent super optmized yet
[22:36] <DaSkreech> There were a lot of patches to xorg based on things that KDE4 did
[22:36] <DaSkreech> Some drivers still have not caught up
[22:36] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: And that
[22:37] <DaSkreech> jcd: If for nothing else so the devs know about your issues and to help write a good bug report #plasma may be helpful
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> does anyone have the issue where the system slowly grinds to a stop but if you leave it alone for a little while it is ok?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> its really random. Im running kde 4.1 with fluxbox 1.0
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> it happened when i was running compiz but fluxbox is exactly the same
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> or is this a kde 4.1 feature?
[22:40] <dragoon> hey i try to install winrar but im lost
[22:40] <Dr_willis> wine winrarinstaller.exe
[22:40] <Dr_willis> or wahtever its called.
[22:40] <Dr_willis> Ive used winrar with wine.. its worked decently well
[22:40] <DaSkreech> !rar
[22:40] <dragoon> ok
[22:40] <Dr_willis> or use the native rar commands..but i have had better luck with winrar.
[22:40] <sFEARs> is there a way have compiz enable the negative plug in on all windows?
[22:41]  * DaSkreech shrugs
[22:41] <Dr_willis> sFEARs,  the ADHD plugin does that sort of.. it dims the other windows..   Negative plug can do the whold screen also.. check the hotkeys for it
[22:41] <DaSkreech> Look at the ccsm help
[22:41]  * Dr_willis dosnet know WHY one would want to do that...
[22:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:41] <Dr_willis> it makes your videos look funny
[22:42] <sFEARs> that's not exactally what i'm looking for.. the screen negative includes the desktop.. i just want the windows
[22:42]  * ActionParsnip is confused by anyone installing winrar
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> dragoon: once you have suitable rar stuffs, ark can then open them
[22:43] <sFEARs> Dr_willis, with opacity set to "class=any" at 85% when you negate the window it turns crystal clear
[22:43] <dragoon> ActionParsnip:  i do this i extract it but no ./configure
[22:43] <Dr_willis> So? :)
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> dragoon: extract what?
[22:43] <sFEARs> so i want it to negate all the windows at once
[22:43] <dragoon> ActionParsnip:  winrar
[22:43]  * Dr_willis scoffs at eye candy! :) except for the compiz zoom feature...  wife likes that one.
[22:44] <sFEARs> scoff away then
[22:44] <Dr_willis> I run the winrar executable/isntaller i download from the rarsoft web site
[22:44] <sFEARs> Dr_willis, if you wanted to zoom every window how would you do it?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> dragoon: you dont need it
[22:45] <Dr_willis> sFEARs,  the zoom feature does basicially zoom in on eery wndow..
[22:45] <dragoon> ActionParsnip:  umm what i need to do after ark open it ?
[22:45] <Dr_willis> wife uses it so she dont need to go get her glasses. :)
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> dragoon: sudo apt-get install rar
[22:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Compiz is working with my 2 monitors.. nifty
[22:46] <dragoon> so easyli
[22:46] <dragoon> ActionParsnip: easily
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> dragoon: then use: unrar e rarfile.rar
[22:46] <Dr_willis> I have seen some rar archives that  unrar does not like.. had to use winrar.exe on them
[22:46] <dragoon> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> dragoon: you dont need winrar in linux, rar is standard
[22:47] <dragoon> ok but i got a image in .00 .01 .02
[22:47] <dragoon> rar.01 rar.02
[22:48] <dragoon> i can open it with rar ?
[22:48] <Dr_willis> extraxt the first one...
[22:48] <Dr_willis> it will auto-read the rest as needed
[22:48] <dragoon> ok
[22:48] <dragoon> whit rar ?
[22:48] <Dr_willis> Logical eh?
[22:48] <DaSkreech> jcd: What drivers do you have installed?
[22:48] <Dr_willis> unrar e whatever.r00
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> dragoon: just point it to the first one, the rest is handled automatically
[22:49] <dragoon> ok and what i can burn a imin linux ?age
[22:49] <dragoon> oups
[22:50] <dragoon> image *
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> dragoon: whats the image file name?
[22:51] <dragoon> .iso
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> !burning | dragoon
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> k3b rocks the kasbah
[22:51] <dragoon> ok thanks
[22:51] <emma> when I try to install the fglrx i get a screen on my monitory that the resolution frequency is too high, and the only way I can save it is doing a restore of X.
[22:52] <emma> could anyone tell me how to fix it, i happen to know what my frequencies should be for this monitor
[22:52] <jcd> DaSkreech: It behave like that when running from the CD. So whatever is on the CD is not working correctly on my system.
[22:53] <jcd> DaSkreech: BTW, I tried to install to disk and force VESA driver and the like with the same kind of behavior
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> !ati | emma
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> emma: to restore the xorg.conf to failsafe boot to grub menu and choose failsafe, you can then restore the file to failsafe
[22:55] <emma> ActionParsnip: I don't want to restore X I want to be able to use fglrx :)
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> emma: try making the frequencies slightly less than what you know they are
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> emma: or start low and crank up
[22:56] <emma> I don't know where to set the frequences.
[22:56] <emma> When I install the fglrx driver it must be setting them some place but I don't know where or how to alter it.
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> emma: http://nozell.com/examples/xorg.conf-fglrx.20060621
[22:57] <emma> xorg.conf has been gutted and made useless in the new ubuntu.
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> emma: specifies refresh rates there
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> emma: its still used for some gfx drivers
[22:58] <Dr_willis> I use my normal old fashned xorg.conf :)
[22:58] <blek> again sorry but it's again necessery you give me ubuntu french please
[22:58] <emma> !fr
[22:58] <blek> thank's
[22:58] <ptl> !pt
[22:58] <ptl> !br
[22:59] <ptl> !de
[22:59] <ptl> cool
[22:59] <ptl> !klingon
[22:59] <ptl> !kl
[22:59] <ptl> no ubuntu in klingon? :(
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> nt today
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[23:00] <jcd> well it must not be part of humanity
[23:07] <dwidmann> ptl: at least google hasn't let you down ;)
[23:07] <emma> ActionParsnip: I don't really understand what I'm supposed to do with that.
[23:07] <emma> When I install fglrx with the hardware drivers thing, i don't see any changes like that in xorg.conf
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> emma: you need to add some refresh rates to your xorg.conf
[23:11] <emma> yeah how do i do that?
[23:11] <emma> ActionParsnip: but are you sure that ubuntu intrepid even cares about xorg.conf anymore?
[23:11] <emma> ubuntu does not care about xorg.conf anymore when I tried to make my mouse work.
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> emma: for vga drivers it is still used
[23:11] <emma> Ubuntu decided that people should not be able to use xorg.conf any more to make stuff work.
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> emma: i have to set t or my nvidia card
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> emma: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-desktop-x-windows/40987-xorg-how-set-refresh-rate-100hz.html
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> emma: thats why the screen section is still standing
[23:12] <ptl> !google ubuntu klingon
[23:12] <ubuntu> HELP! I just removed my LAMP using tasksel and now my system has nothing in it, no diplay manager etc, Im on a live cd now, is it possible to undo this?
[23:12] <emma> ActionParsnip: okay that sounds promising.
[23:13] <emma> i wish that ubuntu made it mroe clear which parts of xorg.conf are still working and how to make stuff that used to work work.
[23:13] <emma> I am not sure why ubuntu broke xorg.conf. It confuses me.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop
[23:14] <ptl> ubuntu: do you have apt on your system? as root, connect to the internet, mount your drive in /some/partition, then chroot /some/partition, and aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu:boot to root cosole via grub menu for your krenls recovery mode
[23:14] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: cheers, when I try this though it gives me Aptitude error 100 or something similar
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: if you can get the exact error I can diagnose
[23:15] <ubuntu> oh and my wireless connection fails to boot so when it goes to try update the packages etc it can't :(
[23:15] <ubuntu> are you familiar with aptitude and 100?
[23:15] <ubuntu> Im pretty sure thats all it gave me
[23:15] <emma> ActionParsnip: do you think I can put in the horz and vert stuff without any of that other information?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: i'd chroot as ptl says then, or add your install cd as a repo and use that
[23:16] <ubuntu> I selected the kubuntu desktop in tasksel but the not able to download files thing got in the way
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> emma: its worth a try, backup the old xorg.conf first so you can roll back
[23:16] <ubuntu> is there a way to restore it from within this live session I am running at the moment
[23:16] <emma> ActionParsnip: on that linuxforum the section is called 'monitor' and in the xorg.conf on kubuntu it says 'screen'.
[23:16] <ubuntu> aha
[23:16] <ubuntu> how do I add the disc as a repo from command?
[23:17] <emma> ActionParsnip: there's nothing in there to save. It's like ubuntu literally destroyed xorg.conf there's nothing in it.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> emma: no, there is a monitor and a video device which get combined to make a screen
[23:17] <emma> okay so you just put stuff in screen.
[23:17] <ptl> ubuntu: apt-cdrom add
[23:17] <ubuntu> beautiful
[23:17] <ubuntu> will see you soon prolly lol
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> emma: i upgraded from hardy and a lot of my xorg got commented out, http://pastebin.com/f1f21f92d
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> emma: see how the screen and video card bits are stil standing
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> emma: see lines 77 to 80
[23:20] <ptl> C:\WINDOWS> APT-GET.EXE /force full-upgrade
[23:21] <emma> ActionParsnip: I'll show you what my xorg.conf looks like right now, after I made the changes I just made....
[23:21] <emma> !pastebin
[23:23] <emma> ActionParsnip: this is the whole thing -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/71548/
[23:23] <emma> you see there's nothing there anymore.
[23:23] <emma> Ubuntu completely gutted xorg.conf
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> emma: looks ok to me
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> emma: just reduce the refresh rates some
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> emma: try: HorizSync       31.5 - 93.8     VertRefresh     56.0 - 88.0
[23:29] <courtjesterg> not don't unistall x server nor hardware nor graphic driver adn try a reinstall you will be screwed
[23:29] <courtjesterg> note
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> courtjesterg: i'd still be able to do most of my dailies ;)
[23:29] <courtjesterg> hopefully this is the last time i unistall this os
[23:29] <courtjesterg> installl
[23:30] <courtjesterg> i couldn't see anything on the os lol
[23:30] <courtjesterg> even tryed repairing and such no go even recovery
[23:31] <JediatNight> can anyone suggest a good dvd player for Ubuntu?
[23:31] <ptl> I use kaffeine
[23:31] <LeeJunFan> JediatNight: personally I like VLC.
[23:32] <ptl> what do you mean by good? It's not like that's an incredibly complex kind of program
[23:32] <nyp4life> i second vlc
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> JediatNight: mplayer all the way
[23:33] <ptl> ubuntu's mplayer does not have dvdnav compiled in, does it?
[23:33] <JediatNight> I have VLC but it isn't able to play DVDs ..
[23:33] <DaSkreech> !dvd
[23:33] <ptl> then you need medibuntu's repositories
[23:33] <ptl> and install libdvdcss2
[23:33] <JediatNight> i guess this mightbe due to licensing issues
[23:34] <courtjesterg> how many people use gimp?
[23:34] <ptl> lots.
[23:34] <JediatNight> i was using Gimp :-|
[23:34] <courtjesterg> just wonder if there is somethng better besides gimp i know cs suites are good
[23:35] <nyp4life> i cant get my ipod to connect to kubuntu.. it charges but doesn't show up in my "recently connected devices"
[23:35] <JediatNight> is there any ipod connection program for linux?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> !ipod
[23:35] <ptl> courtjesterg: krita is good, but it is a lot simpler
[23:35] <ptl> !krita
[23:35] <JediatNight> i 'd like to hook up my ipod to my linux box
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> !info krita
[23:36] <emma> ActionParsnip: When I rebooted it gave errors saying that HorizSync and VertRefresh are not legal commands and then I got the same screen from my monitor saying that the refresh freuency is too high.
[23:36] <courtjesterg> anybody ever used the inkscape vector graphics editor sounds promiseing
[23:36] <emma> I had to go to a different tty and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:36] <ubuntu> How do I add my cdrom as a source from command line?
[23:36] <ptl> inkscape is awesome
[23:36] <ptl> but it's different from gimp
[23:36] <ptl> because it deals primarily with vectors, not bitmaps.
[23:37] <nyp4life> ok the ipod how to shows how to add music/videos but says nothing about connection issues
[23:37] <ptl> but there's also xara studio if you like vector drawing applications
[23:37] <courtjesterg> old halflife adn halflife 2 map maker here
[23:37] <ubuntu> is tasksel supposed to destroy your kubuntu when you remove the LAMP server?
[23:37] <emma> Apparently there is no way for people to use fglrx on Kubuntu intrepid.
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> emma: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-882210.html
[23:38] <nyp4life> and i know that my ipod touch wont transfer music with anything but itunes but im trying to hook it up with my xp virtual machine through vbox
[23:38] <nyp4life> but it wont even show up in kubuntu
[23:38] <ptl> !info xara-lx
[23:38] <ptl> !info xaralx
[23:38] <nyp4life> i tried connecting my phone and that also doesn't connect to kubuntu
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> nyp4life: is it set to disk mode?
[23:39] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: what was that add cd-rom to adept command again?
[23:39] <nyp4life> do i have to enable usb support for kubuntu?
[23:39] <nejode> emma: what card do you have?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: sudo nano or gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:39] <ptl> ubuntu: apt-cdrom add
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> or that :D
[23:40] <ubuntu> cheers guys
[23:40] <emma> nejode: I have VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[23:40] <nyp4life> ActionParsnip: ok i just made my phone to disk mode and it connects.. now what can i do for my ipod
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> nyp4life: is it not the same (i  dont use ipod)
[23:41] <courtjesterg> sounds sweet xara atreme
[23:42] <courtjesterg> xara xtreme
[23:43] <nyp4life> hmm.. i remember i could use the ipod before when i was using 8.04 and don't remember doing anything special to enable..
[23:43] <ptl> courtjesterg: however I prefer inkscape. I think it's easier
[23:43] <courtjesterg> ok i dl both
[23:44] <nyp4life> in 8.04 it used to connect as a camera.... now in 8.10 it shows up when i use lsusb command as Apple, Inc.
[23:44] <ptl> courtjesterg: if you need professional-qualityf bitmap-editting though, I'd recommend learn a bit more about gimp. It's way more powerful than krita, and although it has a weird way of doing things - takes some time to get used to - it pays the effort.
[23:44] <nyp4life> do i have to manually mount it?
[23:45] <courtjesterg> i used to go to art college in tn learned alot about a mac, photoshop and illustrator and cuh programs
[23:45] <courtjesterg> back in ny now
[23:45] <courtjesterg> even lived in sc
[23:45] <ptl> courtjesterg: like those kung fu monks says in movies, you'll have to unlearn what you have learnt
[23:46] <courtjesterg> recently i purchased courtjesterg.com it is parked at this time
[23:46] <emma> Maybe I just have to buy a different video card in order to properly use Linux?
[23:46] <JediatNight> !dvd
[23:46] <ptl> emma: no
[23:47] <courtjesterg> peace niggers
[23:47] <emma> ptl: yeah I think so because you can't use fglrx with kubuntu.
[23:48] <nejode> emma: you tried using the "ati" driver?... it has 3D accel
[23:48] <emma> isn't the ati driver fglrx or do you mean the default open one?
[23:48] <tacosarecool> I'm just wondering why in 8.10 stickam isn
[23:48] <tacosarecool> 't acting like it should
[23:48] <ptl> emma: you're having some difficulties, I see, and I am sorry for being unable to help more, but I know lots of people which use fglrx successfully with Ubuntu
[23:49] <tacosarecool> I use successfully just not in the proper way lol
[23:49] <ptl> successfully --> with acceleration and everything else
[23:49] <emma> ptl: Yeah I know. It mysterious to me why things would be so fickle. What makes it work for one person but not for another?
[23:49] <tacosarecool> I mean games work with the drivers
[23:49] <tacosarecool> So yeah
[23:49] <nyp4life> emma: i couldn't set up fglrx either.. i tried the 'ati' driver but it wasn't that great.. im using 'radeonhd' driver now it looks a lot better but i still cant get Desktop Effects to work
[23:50] <nejode> emma: it depends on the type of card, anything below radeon 9500 or X600 are not supported by the fglrx driver in intrepid
[23:50] <nyp4life> try downloading and using 'radeonhd' if 'ati' doesn't work right
[23:50] <emma> nejode: I have this card...
[23:50] <tacosarecool> Mines working fine and I'm on x300
[23:50] <emma> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[23:50] <emma> nejode: ^
[23:50] <tacosarecool> Maybe not in the hardware testing but it's working fine
[23:50] <nejode> emma: let me check the release notes
[23:51] <emma> Is that one not supported by the fglrx driver in intrepid?
[23:51] <emma> nyp4life: yeah it's odd right?
[23:51] <emma> I don't mind having to buy another video card, maybe my hardware is just too old for a more modern OS like kubuntu.
[23:52] <nyp4life> its annyoying.. not odd.. lol i was trying for weeks.. now i just gave up
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> emma: old hardware works great in ubuntu
[23:52] <emma> hm, not my video card.
[23:52] <tacosarecool> Get the drivers from hardware drivers
[23:52] <tacosarecool> In the kmenu
[23:52] <emma> I did.
[23:53] <emma> I install the fglrx and then it says you must restart the system, so I do that, and then my monitor says, 'your frequency is too high'. And does not let me do anything else.
[23:53] <nyp4life> mine just says 'no signal' after installing
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> emma: you could always use envyng-qt as a last ditch
[23:54] <nyp4life> i tried with Hardware Drivers, tried from ATI site.. tried manually configuring xorg.conf.. tried compiling the driver with the hundreds of manuals online.. couldnt get it to work.. tried envy too
[23:55] <emma> nyp4life: that's pretty frustrating.
[23:55] <nyp4life> emma: lol yes it is
[23:55] <emma> ubuntu really does not work well with ATi I think.
[23:55] <naught101> is touchpad scrolling working in firefox for anyone in kubuntu ibex?
[23:55] <nejode> emma: try the ati or the radeonhd driver, at least you'll have decent resolution and time to investigate further
[23:55] <nyp4life> but try them all if you haven't already.. one of them might work for u.. it does for others so..
[23:55] <naught101> oh, never mind
[23:55] <ptl> that's why you should fight against proprieraty drivers
[23:56] <emma> nejode: I thikn it must be using the ati one by default right? I mean, I am using kubuntu right now. Some kind of driver is giving me some video.
[23:56] <nyp4life> emma: also search google with your screen's model name and xorg.conf.. (ex. search for: acer al2216w xorg.conf)
[23:56] <ptl> when I had an ATI, I had one that was supported (with 3D!) by the open-source driver. It was fast, reliable and needed no configuration or struggle, it was just autodetected and setup.
[23:56] <emma> there must be some kind of open ati driver that is put on by default.
[23:57] <emma> okay
[23:57] <nyp4life> hopefully some recommended settings will come up and try to use this
[23:57] <nyp4life> those*
[23:57] <nejode> emma: co to system settings>display>hardware and see what driver you're using right now
[23:57] <nejode> *go
[23:59] <emma> nejode: there is no option for hardware in display