[00:26] <fta> holly sh*t, 1.9.1~b2~hg20081105r21361 <= 1.9.1~b2~hg20081106r21354   time is going backward
[00:29] <fta> http://hg.mozilla.org is showing the timezone of the committer, not a unique tz :(
[07:36] <ghrocks> hi everyone
[07:38] <ghrocks> anyone here?
[07:38] <ghrocks> im having a problem with my firefox on the new ubuntu, anyone who could help me??
[10:45] <gnomefreak> asac: on the wikis you wanted me to drop one and update the other?
[10:46] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... drop the outdated one ;)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> they were both outdated ;)
[10:53] <asac> gnomefreak: hehe
[10:53] <asac> gnomefreak: the "Bugs" page is better
[10:53] <asac> at least it refers to xul 1.9 and fffox 3.0
[10:54] <gnomefreak> pulling them both up atm
[10:57] <gnomefreak> asac: drop https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/DebuggingFirefoxDevels ?
[10:57] <asac> yewah
[10:59] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe we can make a redirect from that page to Bugs when removing it?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> i plan to
[11:01] <gnomefreak> seems filters are not working in tbird-3
[11:01] <asac> gnomefreak: work for me ;)
[11:02] <asac> i am not using much ... just "if i am the sender auto mark as Read"
[11:03] <gnomefreak> i set up intrepid changes to go to same named folder using sender field and when i run it nothing happens
[11:14] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 73244, what should we do with that. as far as im concerned if you do anything in firefox you should leave firefox open until you are done. not until you think you dont need it
[11:27] <asac> gnomefreak: is that still reproducible?`
[11:27] <asac> gnomefreak: what is crashing? firefox? according to title thats closed ;)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> i never saw it
[11:27] <asac> my guess the reason is that ffox removes the file on shutdown
[11:27] <gnomefreak> i cant reproduce nor have i ever
[11:28] <asac> so the app that opened it, probably cannot cope with that and crashes
[11:28] <asac> tough task
[11:28] <asac> gnomefreak: which application is said to be crashing in that bug?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> hold on ill check
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Well i think i made a mistake: It's not crashing, it gets stuck. After following the steps the package manager will be grey forever.
[11:40] <gnomefreak> that is one comment
[11:41] <gnomefreak> im not sure what this person means, first its saved in /tmp and that is the issue or the lockup/crash is the issue
[11:41] <gnomefreak> both are mentioned
[11:43] <gnomefreak> asac: try to reproduce the bug. I cant and since only one person is all that can i would like mozilla team member try to reproduce this
[11:48] <asac> gnomefreak: thats a none issue i think
[11:48] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe he is confused by the plugin finder service that blocks the UI
[11:49] <asac> while installing plugins (e.g. apturl -> might look like package manager)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> true
[11:50] <gnomefreak> asac: what is current status on removing flashes plugin finder service?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> maybe i will remove the page instead of linking it but its early and i have a mostly clear morning so coffee now wiki in a bit
[11:54] <asac> gnomefreak: "removing flashes plugin finder service" ?
[11:54] <asac> what does that mean?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> asac: removing adobes plugin service. vist flah page adobe says to install flash and never works
[12:12] <asac> gnomefreak: is there a bug about that yet?
[12:12] <asac> or just the conflict with nonfree?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> asac: we talked about this early in intrepid cycle IIRC its just the fact that it is usless and it blocks our plugin finder, when we did talk about it you needed to talk to mozilla nd flash to see if i was ok to remove it
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Im not seeing a way to redirect. I asked in #ubuntu-doc so im waiting for a reply, or i can remove it but would rather link it incase someone has it saved in bookmarks
[12:22]  * gnomefreak didnt see anything rude in any comment and as for his "" it suggests its only one person having this issue
[12:22] <gnomefreak> oops wrong channel but oh well best not light the fire under his ass to complain more
[13:41] <gnomefreak> meeting i forgot about. ill be back in a few hours
[15:47] <plun> hello... fta around ?
[17:16] <fta2> plun, not for long
[17:17] <fta2> asac, gasp, i dropped the hunspell patch in xul 1.9.1 as it's no longer needed (upstream bumped to 1.1.2) but now it ftbfs on hardy :(
[17:18] <plun> fta: hello....
[17:18] <plun> Is it possible to run FF3.1 as default browser in Jaunty  ?,   I am rather sure that we need longer test cycles for all important mainstream stuff.
[17:26] <sebner1> AHH!!!!!!
[17:26] <sebner1> who of you broke pulseaudio in jaunty? and how to fix it :P
[17:28] <plun> sebner1: latest GIT fixes it and this patch  http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/398
[17:28] <plun> Please tell Luke....   skip ver 0.9.13   ;)
[17:29] <sebner1> well, fix is on  LP but since to days on "Dependency wait"
[17:31] <plun> sebner: for the first time I have real rock solid "glitch free" sound....   ;)
[17:31] <sebner1> bah
[17:31] <sebner1> xD
[17:35] <sebner1> Will this pulseaudio change will end in rebuilding packages /audio applications?
[17:39] <plun> sebner: I am not a developer just a "freak" and it seems that Fedora runs with the GIT version, a lot of fixes.  Rock solid.... I found the patch this morning and everything works.
[17:39] <plun> PA 0.9.13 and als-plugins broke for Luke during built, at least 32 bit.  ver .13 is also a crazy version.
[17:39] <sebner1> kay
[17:40] <plun> I hope that Luke also sees this patch....  LennartP is going to be away according to the bug.
[17:43] <sebner1> but /me has a broken pulseaudio now. pulseaudio and libasound2-plugins were removed. but libasound2 installed. I can't install pulseaudio or the plugins anymore. asac crimsun ?
[17:57] <plun> sebner:  it is "stone dead"-broken also for me.... git clone git://0pointer.de/pulseaudio.git
[17:58] <plun> and the patch...    100% success  ;)     Git source must then be bootstraped for compiling.
[17:59] <sebner1> plun: well, too annoying. /me is already reinstalling intrepid ^  ^
[18:03] <plun> Just a little challenge....   it takes 10 minutes...  ;)
[18:46] <sebner> so
[18:46] <sebner> back in action
[18:46] <sebner> with intrepid ^^
[19:20] <fta> THUNDERBIRD_2_0_0_18_BUILD1
[21:16] <fta> stevel, still no tag ?
[21:21] <stevel> fta: preed doesn't tag RC releases... so we won't tag until 1.0 final
[21:21] <stevel> i can point you at the rev that would mark the RC release though
[21:21] <stevel> RC1 that is
[21:22] <fta> stevel, ok, too bad. i'll wait then.
[21:22] <fta> thanks
[22:02] <fta> !info firefox-3.0
[22:02] <fta> !info firefox-2


[19:48] <Unit193> https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/garcon_0.6.1-1.html
[20:41] <Unit193> bluesabre: Did you see https://launchpad.net/~canonical-foundations/+archive/ubuntu/python3.6-as-default/+build/12743063 ? (Relating to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-June/039826.html)
[21:19] <Unit193> ochosi: Oh, was the python script for panel config switching going upstream?  I thought that was the goal at one point.
[21:28] <ochosi> yeah, at one point. not sure, it's a little hacky and we would have preferred to redo it in c
[21:28] <ochosi> but so far nobody had the time/energy
[21:28] <ochosi> and there were more important things to take care of
[21:30] <Unit193> Sure, just wondered.  And ah, so it'll still be on hold for a while then.  I only ask due to the question from Corsac in #xfce-dev a couple days ago.
[21:31] <ochosi> mhm
[21:39] <bluesabre> Unit193: ooooh python 3.6
[21:40] <Unit193> Yeeep.


[03:08] <pleia2> issue has been sent off to summary writers, if anyone here wants to help... :) http://bit.ly/vDkJyf


[07:05] <hfz> hi
[08:41] <indus> hi
[08:42] <indus> guys i need your help
[08:47] <hyperair> wrong place. /join #ubuntu
[08:48] <indus> for membership
[08:51] <czajkowski> `/c
[09:48] <indus> hi
[14:56] <Pretto> @now
[17:42] <delphiexile> hi everybody
[17:42] <delphiexile> i've a pb , i lost all my karma in 2 seconds
[18:09] <DKcross> delphiexile,  what?
[18:09] <DKcross> delphiexile, why man?


[03:09] <swift110-phone> hey
[03:16] <princedimond> whats up ?
[09:57] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else


[12:52] <PaulW2U> Added several more links to the prep .doc - making good progress this week along with CG.
[13:10] <pleia2> thanks :)


[12:17] <JasperCoenraats> is there anybody who is able to advise my at starting and problems relating starting with Ubuntu, when possible in Dutch?
[12:17] <JasperCoenraats> *and


[07:08] <bkerensa> markdude: Idk what else is going on around CLS other then OSCON
[07:09] <bkerensa> blkperl: wget the deb file then sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[07:11] <markdude> Siege Engine Workshop is the best thing I have seen so far bkerensa
[07:12] <bkerensa> markdude: I have not a clue what that is
[07:13] <markdude> LIke catapult.
[07:13] <markdude> not looking for FOSS things, just curious if you had idea- I can ask others
[07:13] <markdude> :)
[07:18] <blkperl> bkerensa: user error, I only had trusty-proposed/main needed universe too
[07:19] <bkerensa> markdude: idk lots of things I assume it is Portland :)
[07:20] <bkerensa> blkperl: fail
[13:59] <markdude> bkerensa: you have "changed" you are now *part of the machine* XD
[14:00] <markdude> Or more likely - you are hella busy around then. :)


[08:32] <thumper> dspstv: all the launchpad devs are in Prague this week for a sprint, and most are travelling right now
[08:33] <thumper> dspstv: there should be more people around tonight, or tomorrow
[08:33] <thumper> dspstv: sorry I can't be more help
[08:54] <forrestv> i'm moving a project to launchpad and i did "bzr push lp:~voights/txrecaptcha/trunk"
[08:54] <forrestv> but the project page still says "You haven't yet told Launchpad where your source code is for txreCAPTCHA trunk series."
[08:57] <forrestv> figured it out, but that interface isn't really intuitive
[09:03] <pajatopmr> I'm looking for some help with launchpad email.  A launchpad user tried to send mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>got a bounce and asked me to "enable"<EMAIL_ADDRESS> How to do this has escaped me so far.  Suggestions?
[09:04] <micahg> pajatopmr: normal users don't get those addresses
[09:04]  * micahg doesn't know if anyone has one
[09:05] <pajatopmr> OK, I'll pass that along to the User, who is also a project administrator, fwiw.
[09:11] <wgrant> pajatopmr: Yeah, normal users certainly don't get those. I only know of a couple of working @launchpad.net addresses, and none of those are personal.
[09:14] <thumper> hi wgrant
[09:14] <thumper> currently all email to launchpad.net are handled by the email processing scripts
[09:14] <thumper> to do things like create new bugs, comment on reviews, bugs or answers
[09:15] <thumper> I had in the past thought it would be interesting to have<EMAIL_ADDRESS>work, but..
[09:15] <thumper> alas no
[09:15] <thumper> probably not going to happen
[09:15] <thumper> it wouldn't be hard to write
[09:16] <thumper> but not likely something we are likely to do without a lot of thought
[09:16] <pajatopmr> thumper: No problem from my perspective.  Actually I don't think an additional email address is necessarily a good idea.  I do wonder why the admin assumed it was set up by default, though.
[09:17]  * thumper shrugs
[09:49] <hyperair> do PPAs support debsrc 3.0 (git)?
[09:57] <wgrant> hyperair: No.
[09:57] <wgrant> Does dak?
[10:06] <wgrant> It doesn't look like it.
[10:27] <sarhan> Hello
[10:27] <sarhan> someone can help me please?
[10:28] <sarhan> i have problem or bug with launchpad
[10:28] <wgrant> sarhan: Hi. What's the problem?
[10:28] <sarhan> i can't translate any thing
[10:28] <wgrant> What happens when you try?
[10:29] <sarhan> this : http://a.yfrog.com/img257/5919/capture2zp.png
[10:30] <sarhan> and the project is with open permisson
[10:31] <wgrant> sarhan: Can you go to https://translations.launchpad.net/people/+me/+licensing, and check that you've selected the "License all my translations in Launchpad under the BSD license" option?
[10:32] <sarhan> i select it now
[10:32] <sarhan> and it works
[10:32] <sarhan> thx
[10:32] <sarhan> :)
[10:32] <wgrant> OK. I'll file a bug that that's really unobvious.
[10:33] <sarhan> thank you very much
[10:33] <wgrant> No problem.
[10:33] <sarhan> bye
[15:28] <Kruptein> hey I'm still having trouble with ppa's, I've made a .deb file for my project,  how can I upload this to the ppa?
[15:29] <micahg> Kruptein: you can't, PPAs build from source
[15:29] <micahg> Kruptein: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading
[15:32] <Kruptein> well that's not so funny :(
[15:33] <micahg> Kruptein: what's the problem, upload a source package instead of a .deb
[15:33] <Kruptein> micahg okay I first have to make one then..
[15:33] <Kruptein> why does the doc mention .debs then? https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage  (3thd paragraph)
[15:34] <micahg> Kruptein: because the same folder you use for generating the .deb, you can generate the source upload in most cases
[15:35] <dspstv> hi again, i was looking yesterday for help
[15:35] <dspstv> i wanted to understand how to troubleshoot my friend
[15:35] <dspstv> who got a deb from my PPA
[15:36] <dspstv> and gets and error related to the version of jack not being available
[15:36] <dspstv> deb is karmic and his system is also karmic
[15:36] <dspstv> i guess its all related to his system
[15:36] <dspstv> but, the question is:
[15:37] <dspstv> could it be related to launchad?
[15:37] <dspstv> sorry for being so unclear, im also trying to learn the whole process
[15:59] <geser> dspstv: does your friend have the universe component enabled? The package "jack" is in universe.
[16:25] <dspstv> geser he does have jack installed but an older version according to dpkg
[16:26] <dspstv> it fails telling a more recent version is requiered but tries not to get it
[16:26] <dspstv> he tried with gdebi also but failed
[16:26] <micahg> dspstv: what version is required?
[16:27] <dspstv> now hes not online, i think .18 and he has .16 or so
[16:27] <micahg> dspstv: there's the same version of jack in karmic, lucid, and maverick
[16:28] <dspstv> ok, i get back with his exact error
[16:28] <dspstv> thanks micahg, geser
[18:43] <geser> has someone an explanation why ma PPA upload landed in the main archive? As far as I currently see I've only missed to specify my PPA when doing an upload through SFTP
[19:01] <dspstv> micahg: the package built by launchpad says this: libjack0 (>= 0.118+svn3796)
[19:01] <dspstv> the version in the karmic my friend has is 0.116
[19:02] <dspstv> the error is this one:
[19:02] <dspstv> 20:00 < jag> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[19:02] <dspstv> 20:00 < jag>   din: Depends: libjack0 (>= 0.118+svn3796) but 0.116.1-4ubuntu2 is to be installed
[19:02] <dspstv> 20:00 < jag>        Depends: liblo7 (>= 0.26~repack) but it is not installable
[19:04] <dspstv> so my question is, how can i understand how to do this package?
[19:04] <dspstv> i could compile under lucid and use the software
[19:04] <dspstv> then decided to build the .deb via launchpad
[19:05] <dspstv> any ideas where to look?
[19:05] <dspstv> google brings me to many results...
[19:06] <geser> have you a link to the PPA?
[19:06] <geser> my guess is that the package got uploaded to the lucid PPA and then copied to karmic
[19:09] <Kruptein> hey I added a package to my ppa, but nothing appears when I go look to my ppa page.. ? what is wrong
[19:09] <geser> Kruptein: did you got a mail that your upload got accepted (or rejected)?
[19:09] <Kruptein> darragh@kruptools:~/development/ppa$ dput ppa:darragh-ssa/kruptools deditor_0.1-1_source.changes
[19:09] <Kruptein> Package has already been uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net
[19:09] <Kruptein> Nothing more to do for deditor_0.1-1_source.changes
[19:09] <Kruptein> geser no I didn't get a mail
[19:10] <geser> Kruptein: did you sign the upload with the key 0xC88E1FA1?
[19:11] <geser> you can check the signature with "gpg --verify deditor_0.1-1_source.changes"
[19:11] <Kruptein> geser well I'm not sure :s   isn't    dput ppa: darragh-ssa/kruptools deditor_0.1-1_source.changes    enough?
[19:12] <dspstv> geser yes, i did a copy
[19:12] <Kruptein> geser the last command does give me:  Good Signature from Darragh ...
[19:12] <geser> Kruptein: it is if you signed the source package with the right key at source package creation time (or with debsign before the upload)
[19:12] <Kruptein> geser I indeed did the last one
[19:13] <geser> dspstv: that explains it, with "copy" the debs are also published for karmic but not rebuild for karmic. For a rebuild you need an upload targeting karmic.
[19:13] <dspstv> https://launchpad.net/~puredyne-team/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1229147/+listing-archive-extra
[19:13] <dspstv> geser: arggg i knew it (somehow)
[19:13] <micahg> dspstv: only lucid has that version
[19:13] <dspstv> and i came here asking what was the difference between those 2 options
[19:14] <Kruptein> geser, so... what did I do wrong?
[19:14] <dspstv> i thnik those options should be explained
[19:14] <dspstv> in the formulaire
[19:14] <dspstv> ok, will try to make a copy from the sources
[19:15] <geser> Kruptein: and the keyid from the output is the same as the keyid in your LP profile? uploads get only accepted when they are signed by a key attached to an LP account
[19:16] <Kruptein> geser, yep it's exact the same
[19:16] <Kruptein> can it be that it takes some time to appear?
[19:16] <geser> the uploads get processed every 5 minutes
[19:16] <Kruptein> well I don't see the problem then :(
[19:17] <geser> I'm out of ideas now too
[19:17] <Kruptein> it maybe has todo with this:
[19:18] <Kruptein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:darragh-ssa/kruptools   produces:  Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~darragh-ssa/+archive/kruptools
[19:18] <Kruptein> is that because I added the fingerprint after I added the ppa?
[19:19] <micahg> Kruptein: it's because it's empty
[19:19] <dspstv> geser: micahg: now i have this problem, even though i had deleted the package i get this:
[19:19] <dspstv> din 1.1.1-0ubuntu-6~planktum in lucid (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)
[19:20] <micahg> dspstv: you can't upload the same version, you need to add a number on the end
[19:20] <geser> dspstv: LP remembers the version of accepted uploads even if you delete id
[19:20] <micahg> dspstv: or in some way make the version higher
[19:20] <dspstv> back to zero.. chaging the chngelog
[19:20] <dspstv> ok, thanks
[19:20] <dspstv> learning here
[19:21] <dspstv> wonder why the copy binary option is offered when going from say lucid to karmic?
[19:21] <geser> use something like 1.1.1-0ubuntu-6~planktum1~karmic for your karmic upload and 1.1.1-0ubuntu-6~planktum1~lucid for your lucid upload
[19:21] <dspstv> ok
[19:22] <geser> dspstv: e.g. for a python script it should be no difference if the package got build on lucid or karmic
[19:22] <geser> (as long as the dependencies are available in both karmic and lucid)
[19:48] <Paraselene_> Well, that kind of blows... I've merged a new account I created with an old one, and lose the old one's karma and (better) openid :/
[19:49] <Paraselene_> and only a couple of my old posts reflect the new username, too. Kind of wish I'd just nixxed the new one I created
[19:56] <Kruptein> How do you add a signing_fingerprint to a ppa?
[20:48] <geser> StevenK: do you have an explanation why my SFTP PPA upload landed in the main archive? As far as I currently see I've only missed to specify my PPA when calling dput.
[20:51] <Nafallo> geser: the package has the main archive set as default I believe. unless you override it in your .dput.cf that would be where unspecified uploads land.
[20:53] <StevenK> geser: If you didn't specify anything, it defaults to whatever your config is set to?
[20:53] <StevenK> Surely stuff like this can't be the sftp service?
[20:56] <Nafallo> considering ppa.lp.net and upload.u.c goes to different hosts I'd kind of doubt the service being the problem.
[20:59] <geser> StevenK: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/462194/
[21:00] <geser> it contains the used dput stance for SFTP upload to PPA, the command I used (I missed to specify a value after the ppa-sftp) and the contents of the only .upload file for that package
[21:01] <geser> and instead of getting an accepted mail for my PPA, I got one for the main archive
[21:02] <Nafallo> geser: what does the logfile for the main archive upload say?
[21:02] <StevenK> I think that's the upload processor on ppa.launchpad.net being clever, rather than the service being wrong
[21:03] <StevenK> I'll mention it to others tomorrow. -> bed
[21:03] <geser> Nafallo: what logfile for the main archive upload? I intented it upload it to my PPA for test-building and not the main archive (at least not with that version).
[21:05] <Nafallo> geser: so, in the manpage for dput, "If omitted, dput uses the host specified by default_host". have you defined default_host in your .dput.cf ?
[21:05] <Nafallo> geser: because if not, default_host is bound to be upload.ubuntu.com
[21:06] <Nafallo> dput by default make .upload files after run. in that file the "dput without specified host" is likely to state the package getting uploaded to upload.ubuntu.com
[21:07] <geser> Nafallo: I specified a host (ppa-sftp) but no value to replace it in the config stance (ppa-sftp:geser)
[21:08] <geser> Nafallo: and as you can see in the .upload file dput uploaded it to ppa.launchpad.net (using my ppa-sftp config)
[21:08] <Nafallo> geser: ehrm. your original questions states that you "only missed to specify my PPA when calling dput", isn't that the upload that went to the main archive?
[21:09] <Nafallo> if you missed to specify where you want to upload it, it will upload to the DEFAULT stanza, which is likely to reside in /etc/dput.cf
[21:09] <geser> Nafallo: I called "dput ppa-sftp librep..." instead of "dput ppa-sftp:geser librep..." what I really wanted
[21:10] <Nafallo> oh, I see. I thought you called "dput librep..."
[21:11] <Nafallo> I wouldn't be surprised if it thought that was invalid and therefor uploaded to default though ;-)
[21:12] <Nafallo> but yeah, thats just speculation on my part...
[21:12] <geser> but wouldn't in that case the .upload file contain upload.ubuntu.com?
[21:13] <Nafallo> yeah, I would argue it should...
[21:14] <Nafallo> ..that is strange indeed.. o_O
[21:15] <Nafallo> anyway. food time
[23:46] <wgrant> geser: The upload processors on ppa.launchpad.net and upload.ubuntu.com are identical.
[23:46] <wgrant> It's the path that matters.
[23:46] <wgrant> Paraselene_: The karma merge should complete within 24 hours.
[23:46] <wgrant> I'm not sure about OpenID.
[23:47] <Paraselene_> wgrant: I've fixed the OpenID. The accounts overview page is deceptive in that respect (you'd think the lock would indicate that the openid is not configurable)
[23:48] <wgrant> Paraselene_: On Launchpad, a lock normally indicates privacy.


[15:00] <tapan_chugh> how to add this line in upstart 'S0:345:respawn:/usr/sbin/vgetty ttyS0'
[15:01] <tholme_> add event.d/ttyS0 with:
[15:02] <tholme_> start on stopped rc3
[15:02] <tapan_chugh> with what
[15:02] <tholme_> start on stopped rc4
[15:02] <tholme_> start on stopped rc5
[15:02] <tholme_> stop on runlevel 0
[15:02] <tholme_> stop on runlevel 1
[15:02] <tholme_> stop on runlevel 6
[15:02] <tholme_> respawn
[15:02] <tholme_> exec /usr/sbin/vgetty ttyS0
[15:03] <tapan_chugh> now do i have to type init q
[15:05] <tapan_chugh> what do i do now
[15:06] <tapan_chugh> some body help me