[11:02] <xivulon> Morning cjwatson, evand
[04:03] <cjwatson> evand: have you had a chance to try a current alternate CD?
[04:04] <evand> cjwatson: I'm in the middle of that right now
[04:04] <cjwatson> good stuff
[04:10] <evand> Was the xserver-xorg resolution question at its current priority intentional?
[04:11] <cjwatson> it's only asked if it can't autodetect
[04:11] <cjwatson> which is the case in vmware :-/, so yes
[04:11] <evand> ahh
[04:30] <evand> cjwatson: assuming I downloaded the right image, it's failing on: ghostscript-x, gs-esp, hpijs, evince, cupsys, hplip, foomatic-db-hpijs, bluez-cups, and cupsys-driver-gutenprint
[04:30] <evand> I'd try downloading it again, but today's build seems to have disappeared
[04:32] <cjwatson> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ seems to be there to me ...
[04:32] <cjwatson> 15:25 <elmo> Unpacking ghostscript (from .../ghostscript_8.60.dfsg.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
[04:32] <cjwatson> 15:25 <elmo> No alternatives for gs.
[04:32] <cjwatson> 15:25 <elmo> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ghostscript_8.60.dfsg.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[04:32] <cjwatson> is it that?
[04:33] <jetsaredim> cjwatson: how do I get the installer to remove packages from the livecd during installation?
[04:33] <evand> err, first mistake: I was looking in daily-live
[04:33] <evand> but checking
[04:33] <cjwatson> jetsaredim: take them out of /cdrom/casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop; if you want them conditionally installed, then also make some bit of ubiquity 'apt-install' them when you want to keep them
[04:34] <cjwatson> (and no, that isn't a typo for 'apt-get install')
[04:34] <cjwatson> jetsaredim: also see doc/README in the ubiquity source package
[04:34] <jetsaredim> i thought it was easier to have everything installed on the livecd and just not install things on the chroot?
[04:34] <cjwatson> huh?
[04:34] <cjwatson> did you read what I said?
[04:35] <jetsaredim> ok - guess not
[04:35] <cjwatson> ubiquity has to remove some packages rather than just not installing them, because it copies everything over file-by-file rather than package-by-package
[04:36] <cjwatson> it decides which packages to remove by comparing filesystem.manifest with filesystem.manifest-desktop
[04:36] <jetsaredim> so just modify the manifest during the install?
[04:36] <cjwatson> no, modify it on your CD image
[04:37] <cjwatson> it's read-only during the install
[04:37] <evand> cjwatson: yes, that appears to be it.
[04:37] <jetsaredim> maybe i misunderstood before
[04:37] <jetsaredim> i thought you said before that it would be easier to have as many packages installed on the livecd as possible
[04:37] <jetsaredim> and then remove packages that aren't needed
[04:38] <cjwatson> I did
[04:38] <cjwatson> but remove after copying, not before
[04:38] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2070 ubiquity/debian/ (ubiquity.docs changelog): * Install doc/README in the ubiquity binary package.
[04:39] <jetsaredim> is there a mechanism for that?
[04:39] <jetsaredim> (like preseed or something)
[04:39] <cjwatson> 15:33 <cjwatson> jetsaredim: take them out of /cdrom/casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop; if you want them conditionally installed, then also make some bit of ubiquity 'apt-install' them when you want to keep them
[04:39] <cjwatson> that is the mechanism
[04:39] <jetsaredim> ok
[04:40] <jetsaredim> and that would get done by a d-i script?
[04:40] <cjwatson> which would get done?
[04:40] <jetsaredim> the installations
[04:40] <cjwatson> the apt-install calls? normally yes, although it's up to you if you're developing a custom version
[04:41] <jetsaredim> i'm just looking for the easiest
[05:32] <cjwatson> evand: James has updated the amd64 and i386 buildds, so once ghostscript is fixed we can retry that
[05:34] <evand> great
[05:34] <cjwatson> evand: if I'm not around, anyone in the ubuntu-cdimage team can kick off a build
[05:34] <cjwatson> ('buildlive ubuntu gutsy')
[05:36] <evand> ok, I'll poke someone if necessary
[05:50] <evand> cjwatson: appears to have made it into the archive.  Are you around?
[05:51] <cjwatson> evand: CDs building
[05:51] <evand> great, thanks!
[08:30] <avoine> cjwatson: sorry to disturb you again but mounting the /dev is the reasponsability of base-installer right?
[08:31] <avoine> because mount --bind /dev /target/dev work well but grub-install give me a problem that my drive are not in the bios list
[08:32] <cjwatson> I can't remember which component does it at the moment, but you probably forgot to bind-mount /proc too
[08:32] <cjwatson> anyway, I have to go for dinner, sorry
[08:32] <avoine> no problem thanks for your help
[08:51] <evand> hooray, the alternate installer works
[09:09] <xivulon> hi
[09:10] <xivulon> do you know how to extract a localized string used within d-i?
[09:11] <xivulon> I am using "Do not configure the network at this time" in preseed at the moment, but that is localized
[09:12] <xivulon> And need to translate the string to the current locale
[09:12] <evand> choices-c does the localization, but I haven't had a chance to play with that yet.  It's on my todo list for m-a.
[09:13] <xivulon> Thanks evan I'll have a look