[08:01] <Bodsda> movied_: now, paste the new link in the channel
[08:01] <movied_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/360510/
[08:01] <talented> what's your time now bendt?
[08:01] <Bodsda> ty
[08:02] <movied_> so this is kind of ur ticket for logging fault u guys are quite organised
[08:02] <tweaksource> movied_, It just keeps the screen readable
[08:02] <bendt> 08:31 - it should be 09:02
[08:02] <bendt> 08:31 - it should be 09:01
[08:03] <reisio> bendt: man date
[08:03] <movied_> beg ur pardon tweaksource
[08:03] <reisio> http://www.google.com/search?q=ntp%20site%3Ahelp.ubuntu.com
[08:04] <tweaksource> movied_, pastebin keeps a long list of lines from cluttering the screen, if that is what you were referring to.
[08:04] <movied_> you guys have got channel rules
[08:04] <Bodsda> movied_: It just helps us by showing us info from your system, and doesnt flood the channel in the process. Now, there seems to be a bug with your tuner card, so make sure its in the system before ubuntu boots, then you need to look into something like MythTV
[08:04] <Myrtti> !guidelines > movied_
[08:04] <Bodsda> movied_: yep, rules, regulations - basically its common sense and family friendly
[08:04] <bendt> talented, reisio: ntpdate: 22 Jan 08:33:50 ntpdate[13592]: no servers can be used, exiting
[08:05] <talented> if you go System > Administration > Time & Date... click to make changes, Select Servers... what servers are checked?
[08:05] <bendt> talented, reisio: sorry - didnt pass a server name
[08:06] <movied_> so i got to research my driver issues with mythtv correct?
[08:06] <cmmenke> anyone how to fix this nvidia driver business?
[08:06] <root> hai
[08:06] <movied_> i think i had the same issue cmmenke
[08:06] <papul> root: please login thru another account
[08:07] <cmmenke> yah, im having some trouble with the drivers for it
[08:07] <andruk> how do i tell pbuilder to add my ppa from launchpad to its sources.list?
[08:07] <movied_> i had to use a chmod command or someting to change the file so that it runs or someting
[08:07] <Flannel> andruk: #ubuntu-motu will answer you, just be patient
[08:07] <talented> movied_, so it's executable?
[08:08] <movied_> that's right talented
[08:08] <movied_> i saw that on some blog i cant remember where
[08:08] <bendt> talented: n1.taur.dk, time1.stupi.se, time.service.uit.no, chronos.cru.fr, ntps1.2.uni-erlangen.de, ntps1.0.cs.tui-berlin.de, ntpa2.kph.uni-mainz.de, fartein.ifi.uio.no
[08:08] <movied_> but at that time i could not go forward with it as i was having the same problem with the password it kept on asking for password and i thought it was not registering
[08:08] <NightHawk877> I just resurrected my mom's old HP Pavilion ze4530us and after poking around on the internet, I discovered that it has an ATi chipset. Should I install the driver or no?
[08:08] <andruk> Flannel: roger that.  ...can i hold you to that?  :-)
[08:09] <talented> bendt, and what was the timezone?
[08:09] <bendt> Europe/copenhagen, GMT-1
[08:09] <thehungrylumberj> sudo chmod 777 should set all user rights to accessible so anyone could use the program I believe
[08:10] <bendt> sudo n1.taur.dk -> 22 Jan 09:09:05 ntpdate[13680]: step time server <IP_ADDRESS> offset 1836.684101 sec
[08:10] <movied_> i c
[08:10] <movied_> i am going to try it right away
[08:10] <bendt> Now system time is correct, but how to keep?
[08:10] <soreau> NightHawk877: If its an older ati chip, the driver is already installed
[08:10] <thehungrylumberj> see this forum for explanation movie http://www.websitebabble.com/uploading-files-ftp/1667-what-chmod-777-a.html
[08:10] <papul> movied_: just installed ubuntu?
[08:10] <Flannel> bendt: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[08:11] <NightHawk877> thanks soreau
[08:11] <movied_> yeah i installed yesterday
[08:11] <movied_> i had installed fedora 11 last week it was too difficult for me i had to step bacn a notch
[08:11] <NightHawk877> I have been using it since 8.04
[08:12] <prince> hi can someone pls sugest me how to install winpcap in ubuntu or any software that equalent to winpcap.my prjt requires winpcap to run
[08:13] <talented> prince, wireshark might be similar?
[08:13] <talented> don't know if it has libs you could use
[08:13] <defn> I need some help configuring my Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 :: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b -- I would like to specifically create the correct layout for my keyboard.  How do I go about making this keyboard work perfectly in linux?
[08:14] <Flannel> prince: winpcap is a windows version of the *nix pcap library.  Install libpcap0.8 for the library itself (search synaptic for pcap for a bunch of bindings, etc)
[08:14] <tweaksource> prince, Winpcap is for Windows platforms only, libpcap is the linux variant that does the same thing.
[08:14] <prince> is wireshark a packet capturing software
[08:14] <cmmenke> anyone know a really good, beginner to intermediate manual for ubuntu?
[08:14] <bendt> The serverguide suggest ntpd or ntpdate - is nptd standard? Ubuntu has allways kept track of time for me with no customization. Why this problem now?
[08:15] <talented> prince, yes
[08:15] <tweaksource> cmmenke, Ubuntuguide
[08:15] <cmmenke> is that the URL?
[08:15] <talented> if I recall correctly, it use to be ethereal
[08:15] <cmmenke> ubuntuguide.org/net/com?
[08:15] <prince> ok thanks all for details have a good day
[08:15] <Flannel> bendt: ntpdate is standard, it runs every time you boot (or login, I don't remember)
[08:15] <Flannel> cmmenke: help.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <defn> configuring keyboards sucks so bad
[08:15] <tweaksource> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/
[08:15] <defn> all these years and there's no good way to configure the damn things
[08:16] <tweaksource> cmmenke, What Flannel said.
[08:16] <cmmenke> thanks
[08:17] <richard_25> hi.  I'm having some issues trying to get my display recognized correctly.  Ubuntu keeps resetting it to an 800x600 resolution
[08:17] <bendt> Flannel, so I can go ahead and do apt-get remove npt?
[08:17] <bendt> Flannel, so I can go ahead and do apt-get remove ntp?
[08:17] <Flannel> bendt: There's no real reason to remove it
[08:18] <bendt> What should my settings be in admin-time&date?
[08:18] <tweaksource> richard_25, What version of Ubuntu ? What graphics adapter?
[08:18] <Daugha|n> Any advice for reformating a WD passport with bad sectors?
[08:19] <talented> your timezone, update from server, or manually set... and then pick a few servers close to you, or just the one
[08:19] <bendt> Flannel: What should my settings be in admin-time&date?
[08:19] <MaSSaSLaYeR> goodmorning
[08:19] <talented> when do you start losing half an hour?
[08:19] <talented> could be a failing battery
[08:20] <bendt> talented: does admin->time&date control ntpd or ntpdate?
[08:20] <richard_25> tweaksauce: Ubuntu 8.04  Nvidia - not certain of make
[08:20] <bendt> talented, Flannel: Should /etc/init.d/ntp be run at startup?
[08:20] <alteregoa> does linux 2.6 regconize MFM controllers?
[08:21] <talented> ntpd is ran every boot I believe
[08:21] <ardchoille> bendt: that is what syncs the system clock, I have it running
[08:21] <bendt> talented: how?
[08:22] <actionparsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:22] <jez__> yo!
[08:22] <zubin71> hi! im using karmic rite now with KDE. for some reason i cant assign keyboard shortcuts for shifting between workspaces. please help.
[08:22] <actionparsnip> !shortcut
[08:23] <tweaksource> richard_25, When does the resolution get reset? After reboot> Immediately?
[08:23] <actionparsnip> Zubin71: #kubuntu will help better as they will use kde
[08:23] <ardchoille> zubin71: you need to ask in #kubuntu
[08:23] <zubin71> well, ive set my shortcuts both in the kde settings and the compiz manager; both dont work
[08:24] <zubin71> actionparsnip, ardchoille : will do... thnkx! :)
[08:24] <kubanc> I would like to strat devilspie before gnome-terminal at startup, how do I delay program to start later
[08:25] <leo> ?
[08:25] <actionparsnip> Kubanc: could make a bash script to sleep a while, then run the command and add that to the startup
[08:25] <tweaksource> actionparsnip, I agree.
[08:25] <talented> kubanc, in start up service folders, they used numbers in the name, the lower the number, the earlier it would start
[08:25] <richard_25> tweaksauce: after reboot
[08:26] <bendt> It seems, that /etc/init.d/ntp starts ntpd, and admin->time&date edits /etc/ntp.conf - am I right?
[08:26] <leo> excuse me
[08:26] <leo> what's the topic of here
[08:26] <actionparsnip> !ot | leo
[08:26] <ardchoille> leo: Ubuntu support
[08:26] <richard_25> tweaksauce: I attempt to enable the graphics acceleration, and it states my display device cannot be determined when I reboot
[08:26] <talented> bendt, ntpd is controlled by time & date
[08:27] <ColloquyUser> Hi
[08:27] <bendt> talented: ultimately - ntpd is controlled by /etc/ntp.conf?
[08:27] <talented> ntpd is a bit better than ntpdate because it has an algorithm to maintain synchronised time, even when it couldn't connect to the net
[08:28] <cmmenke> i read help.ubuntu.com
[08:29] <cmmenke> that stuff was tooooo absic
[08:29] <tweaksource> richard_25, What driver are you using? Did you set the rez using nvidia-settings?
[08:29] <cmmenke> basic*
[08:29] <cmmenke> im pretty savi on windows, perhaps a command line based tut
[08:29] <alteregoa> wget -q http://ubuntusatanic.org/ubuntu-se-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:29] <actionparsnip> Cmmenke: its supposed to be basic. Its a help page
[08:29] <jez__> I'm trying to join the #gstreamer channel, but get this: "Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel" what's going on?
[08:29] <alteregoa> Go to System->Administration->Software Sources->Third Party Software->Add and enter the following APT line:
[08:29] <actionparsnip> !register | jez_
[08:29] <cmmenke> i understand action, thank you
[08:30] <xxthink> Can an application built on 32 bit ubuntu runs on a 64 bit ubuntu?
[08:30] <alteregoa> deb http://ubuntusatanic.org/hell karmic main
[08:30] <jez__> thanks
[08:30] <actionparsnip> Xxthink: sure if you install ia32-libs on the 64bit rig and force the install
[08:30] <alteregoa> xxthink: yes
[08:31] <xxthink> ok
[08:31] <actionparsnip> Xxthink: you will need to satisfy 32bit deps though which can get messy
[08:31] <shushek> hi, i need some with splash screen setting in 9.10
[08:31] <Myrtti> jez__: there's been some attacks on freenode, and making channels accessible to only registered users makes the attacks more manageable
[08:31] <xxthink> ok
[08:31] <actionparsnip> !splash
[08:32] <alteregoa> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-satanic-wide
[08:32] <richard_25> tweaksauce: I'm sorry, very new to ubuntu.  Don't know the driver number,   U use the System>Admin>Hardware drivers to enable it, it reboots, tells me the display is in low resolution because It can't detect my display device, and then sets to 800x600
[08:32] <Myrtti> alteregoa: what is your point?
[08:32] <jez__> would turn away a bunch of confused new users too, I imagine
[08:33] <Myrtti> jez__: most read the message and do as they're guided to do
[08:33] <bonno> Hi all, I am quite new to this whole ubuntu thing. Just migrated over from windows. I am having problem installing flash in firefox on a 64bit system. Is there a quick easy fix for this?
[08:33] <MaSSaSLaYeR> What is recursion good for?
[08:33] <shushek> Ubottu, i did tried gnome-splashscreen-manager; but it waont change the screen..
[08:33] <actionparsnip> Bonno: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:33] <bonno> thanks actionparsnip I will try that
[08:34] <talented> MaSSaSLaYeR, girls love it
[08:34] <MaSSaSLaYeR> talented: i mean in Ubuntu =/
[08:34] <actionparsnip> Bonno: you want only one flash plugin or they will conflict and you will get nothing
[08:35] <strings> is there any command which does opposite functionality of head? that is read from the last line of a file.
[08:35] <bonno> ok, at the moment I have nothing I am pretty sure of.
[08:35] <tweaksource> richard_25, Do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[08:35] <bonno> thanks for the direction actionparsnip
[08:35] <Myrtti> strings: tail
[08:35] <brijith> hello everyone,I can not set gmail account in evolution mail client
[08:35] <actionparsnip> Strings: tail, you can use -n to specify the number of lines to tail
[08:35] <MaSSaSLaYeR> talented: recursion-no = authority only
[08:36] <strings> thanks myrtti & actionparsnip
[08:36] <brijith> hello everyone,I can not set gmail account in evolution mail client please help me
[08:36] <richard_25> tweaksauce: Don't know.  Suspect not.  sudo apt-get nividia-settings?
[08:36] <rww> ubottu: repeat | brijith
[08:36] <gadget3000> brijith: what error comes up?
[08:37] <tweaksource> richard_25, yes
[08:37] <brijith> gadget3000:  Error while Scanning folders in "IMAP server imap.gmail.com"
[08:37] <actionparsnip> Richard_25: try: gksudo jockey-gtk
[08:38] <MaSSaSLaYeR> let's see if i can play counterstrike on ubuntu xd
[08:38] <gadget3000> brijith: have you set the server ports? thats for incoming as well
[08:38] <That1guy> At 2 FPS, I'm sure you can
[08:38] <brijith> gadget3000: I am accessing internet behind a proxy server
[08:38] <actionparsnip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[08:38] <gadget3000> brijith: have you had a look at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[08:39] <actionparsnip> brijith: ^
[08:39] <gadget3000> brijith: or do you use IMAP?
[08:39] <actionparsnip> Brijith: then export http proxy in a terminal, it will be obeyed systemwide
[08:39] <richard_25> Tweaksauce: Brings up Hardware Drivers window - one driver, not in use.  If I activate it, I need to reboot, it tells me It can't determine my display, and I get the low resolution
[08:40] <hechu> Hi, I am using ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop. I want run X application from remote server and show it on my laptop. I don't know how to config my laptop to listen 6000. or, somebody says I can use a ssh tunnel. any body can help me?
[08:40] <brijith> actionparsnip:I have set the proxy settings evolutions settings
[08:41] <gadget3000> brijith: do you use IMAP instead of POP?
[08:41] <That1guy> POP> IMAP imo
[08:41] <kwork> why pop ?
[08:42] <brijith> gadget3000:I think I am using IMAP
[08:42] <That1guy> b/c pop is typically more compatible
[08:43] <gadget3000> brijith: make sure the incoming server is imap.gmail.com:993 and set to ssl encryption. For out going smtp.gmail.com:587 and tls encryption
[08:43] <gadget3000> brijith: infact, try this: http://wazem.blogspot.com/2007/10/hot-to-configure-imap-on-evolution-and.html
[08:44] <ardchoille> gadget3000 brijith you don't ne4ed imap
[08:44] <brijith> gadget3000: will there be any problem because of proxy
[08:45] <ardchoille> Setting up evolution with gmail: http://ardchoille42.pastebin.com/m11a7f272
[08:45] <brijith> gadget3000: in my network there is a proxy through I am using net
[08:45] <richard_25> tweaksauce: I've enabled it, it downloaded something, and is now telling me to restart
[08:45] <ardchoille> brijith: http://ardchoille42.pastebin.com/m11a7f272
[08:45] <gadget3000> brijith: it should be fine as long as the proxy settings in evolution are correct
[08:46] <sarthorks> my laptop powers off the first few times at boot when it has not been powered on for the past 12 hours, say. is my laptop too cold to start?
[08:46] <alteregoa> gimp it like its hot
[08:47] <gadget3000> ardchoille: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=75725 look at the What's the difference between IMAP and POP? section
[08:48] <ardchoille> gadget3000: Ah, that's one choice I suppose
[08:48] <brijith> gadget3000: Host lookup failed: smtp.gmail.com: Name or service not known
[08:48] <brijith> this is what I am getting after trying as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[08:49] <mikkel> anyone here familiar with vim?
[08:49] <brijith>  gadget3000:  this is what I am getting after trying as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[08:49] <tarzeau_> is anyone able to install a gdm theme for 2.28 gdm on karmic?
[08:49] <alteregoa> yes
[08:49] <tarzeau_> how?
[08:49] <alteregoa> but anyone is not on irc right now
[08:49] <tarzeau_> i get the theme.tar.gz put it in /usr/share/themes
[08:50] <tarzeau_> use the sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 -t string -s /apps/metacity/general/theme "Gnome Black"
[08:50] <alteregoa> wait till anyone comes back to irc
[08:50] <Myrtti> alteregoa: be helpful!
[08:50] <tarzeau_> commands, but it just doesn't use it
[08:50] <mikkel> alteregoa: who's on first?
[08:50] <gadget3000> brijith: did you use smtp.gmail.com:587 intead of smtp.gmail.com?
[08:50] <ardchoille> mikkel: There are many folks here familiar with vim. What's your issue?
[08:50] <tarzeau_> it drives me nuts. xdm, wdm is so easy to configure. why is gnome so damn hard?
[08:51] <tarzeau_> how does gnome/ubuntu plan to succeed in a business/enterprise place where 100 or 1000 desktops exist
[08:51] <alteregoa> because gnome is made of pizza hut eating linux coders
[08:51] <tarzeau_> i can't run to each workstation to set it up manually (besides that doesn't work either)
[08:51] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: you're comparing a display manager to a desktop environment
[08:51] <tarzeau_> alteregoa: like i bother
[08:51] <mikkel> ardchoille: I know my way around in vim, but I accidentally hit a key and one of my variable names became highlighted http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68829/vim.png
[08:51] <mikkel> now I can't figure out how to undo it
[08:51] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: no i just want a display manager to fit in our environment
[08:51] <alteregoa> sometime i ask myself how they grew up to make the things so complicated
[08:51] <tarzeau_> and the only thing i'm able to is set the background image. but i want to customize the login panel too
[08:52] <tarzeau_> alteregoa: so do i! not like it was easier before
[08:52] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: gdm is still undergoing feature implementation
[08:52] <tarzeau_> but we really want to switch to gnome from fvwm2 now
[08:52] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: so i should wait for 1009?
[08:52] <Myrtti> alteregoa: I'm asking nicely, if you don't have ubuntu support issues, then either move to another channel, or be helpful instead of offtopic chatter and unhelpful comments
[08:52] <tarzeau_> i wish 2010 was the year of linux on the desktop
[08:52] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: 10.04 might have more gdm features enabled
[08:52] <jbee> hey folks, question: i want to define multiple hosts in ~/.ssh/config, each with his own port. but only the first "Port" is used, 22 for the others, which doesn't work. what am i not seeing here?
[08:52] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: i don't want features. i only want to install a theme
[08:52] <Daugha|n> I have an external HD, if I reformat as ext4, will there be any issues auto-mounting the device?
[08:52] <alteregoa> my comment was just a comment
[08:53] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: That's a feature
[08:53] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: it feels like windows
[08:53] <tarzeau_> the faster i could get this to work, the faster i can migrate 200 desktops to ubuntu, and it's like 1000 active users
[08:53] <kwork> 1000 users on 200 desktop o.O
[08:53] <tarzeau_> oh well, it's not like they cry for ubuntu, nor gnome
[08:54] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: gdm at this time doesn't have many theming features
[08:54] <tarzeau_> kwork: yes, we have like 3000 accounts at the www.phys.ethz.ch, and 200 managed linux workstations
[08:54] <tarzeau_> kwork: and like 50 macs, and 80 windows
[08:54] <brijith> gadget3000:no I didn't I just smtp.gmail.com
[08:54] <kwork> tarzeau_, how is it to manage linux workstations ?
[08:54] <kwork> tarzeau_, what distro you use ?
[08:54] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: i see, so i'm stuck with the ugly brown of ubuntu and the black and white background of mine: http://gnu.ethz.ch/zebrawhitebw.jpg
[08:54] <movied_> tarzeau_,  they probably work on rotating shifts on the same workstation so they done need that much PC
[08:55] <brijith> gadget3000:i nthe pop side also I did the same i did't give the port part
[08:55] <tarzeau_> kwork: currently mostly debian lenny, but the problem is with new hardware, it's not supported. now i've started to migrate to ubuntu
[08:55] <movied_> but still 200 for a 1000 its a big gap
[08:55] <brijith> gadget3000:should I give that ?
[08:55] <tarzeau_> kwork: great, we've documented most things: http://wiki.debian.org/Enterprise (also works for ubuntu)
[08:55] <gadget3000> brijith: yes
[08:55] <kwork> tarzeau_, nice ill check it out
[08:55] <brijith> gadget3000:what are the ports for POP and IMAP
[08:55] <tarzeau_> movied_: well at the ETH Zurich, people change, daily, 3 monthly, 3 yearly
[08:56] <tarzeau_> movied_: and our users keep their accounts, even if they only use it from remote, world wide
[08:56] <tarzeau_> kwork: where do you work, what market?
[08:56] <gadget3000> pop doesn't need it, only imap does. smtp is 587
[08:56] <kwork> tarzeau_, telecommunication
[08:56] <tarzeau_> kwork: the great things are like machines like this: http://gnu.ethz.ch/photos/computers/slides/img_0421.html
[08:57] <tarzeau_> kwork: can you figure how much cpu power/memroy/disks it has? guess...
[08:57] <ardchoille> !ot | tarzeau_
[08:57] <tarzeau_> kwork: and you run linux too? ubuntu on desktops? servers?
[08:57] <kwork> tarzeau_,  64gb with 4 cpus ?
[08:58] <mikkel> I'm not going to spam the question, but I'll ask one more time anyway: I know my way around in vim, but I accidentally hit a key and one of my variable names became highlighted. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68829/vim.png Does anyone know how to undo it? Restarting vim doesn't help.
[08:58] <kwork> tarzeau_, technical people are running ubuntu as desktops, servers are linux/bsd/aix
[08:58] <kwork> tarzeau_,  normal people like support are running windows
[08:58] <tarzeau_> kwork: 128gb memory, 4 quad cores and 6 tb diskspace
[08:58] <kwork> nice :)
[08:59] <kwork> tarzeau_,  how much you payed for it ?
[08:59] <plinetva> test
[08:59] <tarzeau_> kwork: about 15000 swiss francs, maybe 5000 more or less, i don't remember
[08:59] <ardchoille> kwork , tarzeau_  I feel your conversation has moved into the off-topic arena. Can it be taken to another channel please?
[09:01] <mikkel> Aha! I still don't know what I did, but I undid it by deleting .viminfo from the working directory. Thanks anyway, folks.
[09:01] <tarzeau_> can i buy ubuntu support in switzerland, from canonical?
[09:02] <tarzeau_> kwork: i'm traveling with my ubuntu netbook from switzerland, through germany, to sweden/norway/denmark for 3 months this summer. you're in .ee?
[09:02] <kwork> tarzeau_,  yes
[09:03] <kwork> tarzeau_,  im off to lunch for now, back later
[09:03] <brontosaurusrex> how would i copy all the hidden folders starting with dot . to some other folder (user settings that is)
[09:04] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: only the .files or everything? or files and directories with a . at the beginning?
[09:04] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: i always use rsync -av ./ anotherplace/ (that just takes everything, works also between different computers)
[09:05] <brontosaurusrex> tarzeau_: i'am with cp so far :)
[09:05] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: i'm also using rsync on the localdisk, just to save me the troubles on power outage so i don't have to start from scratch
[09:05] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: really convenient if you have terabytes to transfer
[09:06] <alteregoa> i need some tritium oxyde
[09:06] <bruno> buongiorno a tutti :)
[09:07] <alteregoa> buongiorno
[09:07] <alteregoa> ciao padania!
[09:07] <alteregoa> padania libera!
[09:07] <bazhang> alteregoa, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <ardchoille> bazhang: he's been warned more than once already
[09:07] <MaSSaSLaYeR> What's the difference between Postfix & Courier??
[09:07] <bazhang> Guest94506, here is english only #ubuntu-it for Italian
[09:08] <brontosaurusrex> tarzeau_: just trying to backup some basic files before trying upgrade to karmic
[09:08] <alteregoa> i need ubuntu-padania
[09:08] <brontosaurusrex> tarzeau_: only bigger folder is /var/www
[09:08] <Guest94506> sorry but i have a problem with xubuntu for play Audio CD
[09:08] <cmmenke> im using wubi for my comp right, with windows 7, on my external can i permanently trade to ubuntu?
[09:09] <Guest94506> and i search for help
[09:09] <cmmenke> ....sweet
[09:09] <Guest46306> =)
[09:10] <ardchoille> Guest94506: you need to ask in #xubuntu
[09:10] <cmmenke> lol over one thousand people, and no answer, lame
[09:11] <Andyman555> what's the question?
[09:11] <diddy> What is the command to check the integrity of all installed packages? I want to check for rootkits, etc.
[09:11] <Andyman555> hmm...
[09:11] <brontosaurusrex> so will this: cp -r ~/.* /to/some/other/place/ work?
[09:11] <ardchoille> diddly: you can install and run rkhunter and chkrootkit to scan for rootkits
[09:11] <tarzeau_> diddy: chkrootkit or rkhunter
[09:11] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: mc is also nice for these things...
[09:12] <Andyman555> by the way, are noob questions allowed in here? or are they frowned upon? =)
[09:12] <james_> hi
[09:12] <Andyman555> I may have a few silly ones from time to time, but if I should refrain from asking, by all means I will
[09:12] <tarzeau_> Andyman555: noob questions are fine i guess, just no meta questions please
[09:12] <diddy> tarzeau_, but isn't there also a command to check the interity of the installed packages against the ones on the server?
[09:13] <DJones> Andyman555: As long as they're questions about ubuntu support problems, they're fine here
[09:13] <Andyman555> thanks djones
[09:13] <tarzeau_> diddy: yea, i'd google for dpkg package integrity md5
[09:13] <tarzeau_> diddy: but why? if you think you got a broken disk, just use dmesg/badblocks
[09:13] <james_> how do i get yahoo for it
[09:13] <tarzeau_> diddy: or broken memory: memtester
[09:13] <ardchoille> diddly: that would take considerably longer than running a rootkit scanner
[09:13] <Guest37326> ty guy bye
[09:13] <DJones> james_: Yahoo messenger?
[09:13] <james_> yes
[09:14] <yipstar> i'm having trouble using ubuntu-vm-builder
[09:14] <DJones> james_: You can add yahoo messenger accounts to either pidgin or empathy which are chat clients
[09:14] <yipstar> specifically passing a --part option makes the command blow up
[09:14] <james_> k
[09:15] <yipstar> i've created a file with two lines that define the root and swap sizes
[09:15] <james_> what  abot this teamspeak
[09:15] <yipstar> is this a common problem?
[09:15] <james_> game server
[09:15] <billdozor> james: teamspeak client is not supported in Linux
[09:15] <DJones> james_: If you're using Ubunt 9.10, empathy is the default chat client and Pidgin is in the software repositories, I don't know about teamspeak
[09:15] <billdozor> you would want to get a new app for a client called "mangler"
[09:16] <james_> xfce one
[09:16] <james_> and   new
[09:16] <MegaHerz> How to load alsa? I've unloaded alsa modules via (sudo /sbin/alsa force-unload) and now want sound back without restarting whole the system
[09:16] <james_> at this
[09:16] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: modprobe what you unloaded?
[09:17] <eremite> If you're a gamer, Linux is not for you.  Most games do not work on Linux, not even in Wine.
[09:17] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: I've just executed that script. I don't know what modules it unloaded. Is there a way to... just start alsa?
[09:17] <Norby_> I went here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Karmic#Sound) and followed the steps exactly as shown, but my sound is still now working. Do you know what is wrong?
[09:18] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: or how to make system to reindentify needed modules?
[09:18] <DVS01> hi
[09:18] <Q|> python3: Installed Modules can't be imported, e.g. "ImportError: No module named html5lib". Why?
[09:18] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: and load them too
[09:18] <eremite> Does anyone know of some goof FPS games for Ubuntu?  When I say good, I mean NOT based on Doom, Quake or Cube. I'd also prefer if it was a game that I didnt play in Win95.
[09:18] <eremite> good*
[09:18] <DJones> !games | eremite
[09:18] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: no idea, sorry
[09:18] <DVS01> i wonder if crysis runs properly in wine
[09:19] <MegaHerz> alsa is pain, all the way
[09:19] <tarzeau_> eremite: i like sauerbraten very much
[09:19] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: no it's nice
[09:19] <movied_> can we register nick over this server
[09:19] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: you just shouldn't force unload modules, really
[09:19] <eremite> DJones, I am asking opinions, not for a list of generic games (all of which are junk)
[09:19] <MegaHerz> Why sound on windows just works? While on Ubuntu I have to restart alsa 10s times a day?
[09:19] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: yes, looks like
[09:19] <Norby_> I went here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Karmic#Sound) and followed the steps exactly as shown, but my sound is still now working. Do you know what is wrong?
[09:20] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: i never have to restart alsa (besides it's not a service one can restart) it's kernel modules
[09:20] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: but alsa force-reload didn't help this time
[09:20] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: and it just works for me
[09:20] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: what computer/soundcard do you have? which applications do you use?
[09:20] <eremite> tarzeau_,  Sauerbraten is crap.  Its based on a game engine that's nearly 10 years old.
[09:20] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: if you use gnome/kde the artsdaemon and the other softwaremixer, that's crap
[09:20] <tarzeau_> eremite: it's a complete rewrite, go have a look at it. it's much improved
[09:20] <DJones> eremite: In that case, you might be better asking that in #ubuntu-offtopic you normally get people chatting about different software and get opinions, rather than just problems using something specific
[09:20] <eremite> MegaHerz, Sound on ubuntu is crap, I agree.  I have no sound in games and randomly lose sound when watching vids or listening to MP3s
[09:20] <tarzeau_> eremite: i don't mean the cube,cube1 implementation, i mean sauerbraten
[09:21] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: but not for me. Without 'force-reload' "cheat" I can't get sound more then 2-4 hours. Apps like MOCP can't start, claiming it can't access something. So I have to force-reload alsa, and then MOCP works
[09:21] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: you run karmic?
[09:22] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: try to use OSS instead of ALSA, if that works better, i don't know
[09:22] <pat|nG> i everyone
[09:22] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: did you check the mocp bugs/development page, maybe it's known?
[09:22] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: MOCP application, 9.04, latest (I think) alsa (built using that fancy script found on Ubuntu forums)
[09:22] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: or try to figure out what software is causing the problems
[09:22] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: i'm pretty sure it's not alsa
[09:23] <eremite> tarzeau_, I know.    Have a look at some of the games for Windows (and modern consoles) and then look at that junk.  Its a joke.
[09:23] <Norby_> After following the instructions here, I nolonger have a sound card. The problem is that I was sent there to get sound in the firstplace, now I dont even have a card showing up. What's wrong? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Karmic#Sound) and followed the steps exactly as shown, but my sound is still now working. Do you know what is wrong?
[09:23] <tarzeau_> eremite: i'm sorry, but i have to disagree
[09:23] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: yeah, default 9.04's alsa cound't even work on my laptop - Acer 5930G :( So I had to built latest
[09:23] <tarzeau_> eremite: it's not like i don't have consoles or windows, but well, there's a price/developer payment difference, please consider that
[09:24] <tarzeau_> eremite: how do you like world of goo? completely different game
[09:24] <gage> hey guys I've got a bit of a problem, I've been running fedora on my second hardrive and windows XP on my first one then I reinstalled Ubuntu (#! to be exact) over fedora but it left a grub on my First one and now I can't boot windows, any help?
[09:24] <tarzeau_> eremite: you know, i love to play nethack
[09:24] <johntramp> hi i have my email on another machine using getmail. i have been accessing it via ssh and mutt, which mostly works well except i have to check for new mails all the time. is there a way i could use something locally to notify me when new mail arrives?
[09:24] <Myrtti> tarzeau_, eremite: could you move this discussion elsewhere? it's not ubuntu support stuff...?
[09:24] <Suhail_> so i have a screen that was attached, then lost my session, now when i do screen -r it says (attached)--how can I attach to it?
[09:24] <ubuntu_nuevo> HOla
[09:24] <ubuntu_nuevo> Hello spain??
[09:24] <tarzeau_> Suhail_: try -x
[09:25] <tarzeau_> !es
[09:25]  * MegaHerz had to restart Linux again, because sound doesn't work
[09:25] <Suhail_> oh thanks
[09:25] <Suhail_> tarzeau_:
[09:25] <ubuntu_nuevo> oK
[09:25] <eremite> Myrtti,  Im asking where to get GOOD games for Ubuntu.  Where else should I ask about Ubuntu unless in the Ubuntu channel?
[09:25] <ubuntu_nuevo> tHAKS UBOOTU
[09:25] <gadget3000> eremite: nexuiz, unreal tournament 2004 & 3
[09:26] <ubuntu_nuevo> Good bye
[09:26] <tarzeau_> https://launchpad.net/gdm2setup that's what i wanted!
[09:26] <ubuntu_nuevo> i.m user linux!!
[09:26] <Norby_> After following the instructions here, I nolonger have a sound card. The problem is that I was sent there to get sound in the firstplace, now I dont even have a card showing up. What's wrong? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Karmic#Sound) and followed the steps exactly as shown, but my sound is still now working. Do you know what is wrong?
[09:26] <ubuntu_nuevo> ubuntu 9.04
[09:26] <Myrtti> eremite: good is such a vague, opinion based entity. You might try #ubuntu-offtopic too
[09:26] <DJones> eremite: I'd suggest #ubuntu-offtopic thats probably the best bet, its perhaps better for getting opinions, rather than specific support
[09:26] <eremite> johntramp, there is an app in the repositories that puts apps in the tray instead of closing them upon minimization.  I used to use it to keep Thunderbird open.  Alltray, i think its called
[09:26] <eremite> gadget3000, do you know of any games that are not old?
[09:27] <gadget3000> eremite: no, i don't think there are many. The only game that I know works well in wine is half life 2
[09:27] <tarzeau_> haha it's based on gtk1, and "this tab is not yet implemented"
[09:28] <pat|nG> ii type jockey-kde and it says no propretiary drivers is in used does it mean i got a built-in gfxcard?
[09:28] <gadget3000> eremite: In fact if you do find any then let me know :D
[09:28] <brijith> gadget3000:I gave the port numbers
[09:28] <speme> eremite, you can try quake live
[09:28] <brijith> gadget3000:still can't get it
[09:28] <tarzeau_> eremite: it's not like linux is the best platform for games
[09:28] <DVS01> lets see if i can get mortal kombat running in mame in ubuntu :D
[09:28] <gadget3000> brijith: and it still doesnt work? is it giving a different error?
[09:28] <eremite> speme, I hate old boring games with old engines and poor graphics.
[09:29] <brijith> gadget3000:yes Host lookup failed: smtp.gmail.com: Name or service not known
[09:29] <eremite> brijith, are you having troubles Sending, or recieving, your emails?
[09:29] <brijith> gadget3000:may be because I am behind a proxy server
[09:29] <speme> eremite, It's base firefox.
[09:29] <gadget3000> !repeat | norby_
[09:30] <eremite> You should try using your ISP's outgoing servers instead of Google's.
[09:30] <brijith> eremite:may be because I am behind a proxy server
[09:30] <jeremiah_rose> hey - has anyone here managed to compile gstreamer-0.10-plugins-bad? I did it in ubuntu for 0.10.17 without errors, but the plugins don't show up in gst-inspect
[09:30] <pat|nG> ii type jockey-kde and it says no propretiary drivers is in used does it mean i got a built-in gfxcard?
[09:30] <Norby_> That's what i have been doing for the last 2 and a half hours, looking for the answer on the help page.
[09:30] <gadget3000> brijith: ive never used evolution with proxy. You could try just putting the IP address in instead of smtp...
[09:31] <Myrtti> pat|nG: it means that you have a graphics card that doesn't need a proprietary driver. it doesn't necessarily mean it's built-in
[09:31] <eremite> Norby_, reinstall?  Start over?
[09:31] <brontosaurusrex> whats the wildcard for 'starts with .'? .* is not
[09:31] <gadget3000> brijith: it should be <IP_ADDRESS>:587
[09:31] <Explore2> Hi, does ubuntu9.10 have latest gstreamer or are there any ppas?
[09:31] <brijith> gadget3000:<IP_ADDRESS> can be changes to my proxy's  ip rt ?
[09:32] <gadget3000> brijith: Try putting that ip in outgoing server instead of the smtp.gmail.com:587
[09:34] <brijith> gadget3000:Error while Sending message. Could not connect to <IP_ADDRESS>: Connection refused
[09:35] <brontosaurusrex> nm, thunar knows how
[09:35] <gadget3000> brijith: can you surf the net. it sounds like your dns servers arent working proerly
[09:35] <brijith> I can see proxy setting under preference. So it is evident that it is possible to use evolution from behind a proxy server
[09:36] <brijith> gadget3000:yes
[09:36] <brijith> gadget3000:I can
[09:36] <orly_owl> I get "Error loading operating system" on jaunty on a thinkpad R51. How do I fix this?
[09:36] <brijith> gadget3000:I can see proxy setting under preference. So it is evident that it is possible to use evolution from behind a proxy server
[09:37] <gadget3000> brijith: For the sake of testing try removing the proxy settings anyway. Is it your own proxy server?
[09:37] <brijith> gadget3000:This is my office network so I can't
[09:39] <orly_owl> anyone?
[09:39] <gadget3000> brijith: try changing the dns severs then. do: 'sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf' and add nameserver dnsip at the top. eg for googles dns servers: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:39] <pshr_> hello... i am trying to install libcv-dev it says it depends on libcvaux-dev and it is not going to be installed when i try to install libcvaux-dev it says it depends on libcv-dev and its not going to be installed
[09:39] <pshr_> how do i slove this :(
[09:40] <pshr_> interdependencies i can say
[09:41] <bashca> hi there   please  help   >>>> mplayer: undefined symbol: codec_wav_tags
[09:41] <hyperstream> Can't open dhcpd.conf: Permission denied <---  -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 244 2009-06-26 00:11 dhcpd.conf  , what causes this ? ive tried dhcpd3 and the full path to: dhcpd3
[09:41] <Myrtti> orly_owl: is that the whole error message?
[09:42] <orly_owl> Myrtti: yes. i think it's GRUB
[09:42] <Myrtti> orly_owl: it doesn't say Error 17 or anything?
[09:42] <orly_owl> no
[09:42] <zahari_> Does someone know how to retrive '/etc/apache2' if deleted with "rm -rf"   ??
[09:43] <DVS01> try reinstalling it
[09:43] <brijith> gadget3000:after editing the resolv.conf it is waiting for some time and then shows the same errors
[09:43] <zahari_> DVS01, I had mod-python and it messed up so now I get:
[09:43] <zahari_> DVS01, /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-python.postrm: 7: a2dismod: not found
[09:44] <DVS01> you get that when you try doing what?
[09:44] <gadget3000> brijith: I don't know what else to suggest. Your office may have blocked it. sorry.
[09:44] <iceroot> zahari_: reinstall
[09:45] <iceroot> zahari_: and that is one reason not using rm -rf with root/sudo
[09:45] <brijith> gadget3000: in my office we are using squid as proxy server. Is there anything that I can do in its conf to solve this issue
[09:45] <BenB> how do I add a bug watch in launchpad?
[09:45] <brijith> gadget3000: I can access it
[09:46] <zahari_> iceroot, DVS01, I know but I wanted completly to get rid of apache2
[09:46] <gadget3000> brijith: I have never used squid so I wouldn't know
[09:46] <BenB> I see "remote bug watches" in the bottom left of a launchpad bug, I can even edit it, but I see no way to add a new link to an external bug.
[09:46] <brijith> gadget3000: oky any way thanks
[09:46] <BenB> s/bottom left/bottom right/
[09:46] <DVS01> sudo apt-get purge apache2
[09:46] <iceroot> zahari_: then use apt-get remove --purge instead of rm -rf
[09:46] <zahari_> iceroot, DVS01, and now mod-python has stuk into Synaptic
[09:46] <DVS01> or whatever the package name is
[09:46] <zahari_> Removing libapache2-mod-python ...
[09:46] <zahari_> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-python.postrm: 7: a2dismod: not found
[09:46] <zahari_> dpkg: error processing libapache2-mod-python (--remove):
[09:46] <zahari_>  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[09:46] <zahari_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:46] <FloodBot1> zahari_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:46] <zahari_>  libapache2-mod-python
[09:47] <iceroot> zahari_: yes, mod_python will be removed with a2dismod, because there is no apache anymore, there is also no a2dismod
[09:47] <Explore2> what is lib<package> and package in apt-cache?
[09:47] <iceroot> zahari_: reinstall apache to have a2dismod, then remove it with remove --purge instead of rm -rf
[09:48] <brontosaurusrex> does gnome have something similar to osx folder actions built in?
[09:48] <Gnow> i wanna setup a freeradius server but the info i got from the web is different from the radiusd.conf that i have. anyone can give me a hint?
[09:48] <bashca> hi there   please  help   >>>> mplayer: undefined symbol: codec_wav_tags
[09:48] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: what is a folder-action?
[09:48] <knandan> Hi..
[09:49] <brontosaurusrex> iceroot: i'd say a user specific action is executed when there is a directory change
[09:49] <hyperstream> Can't open dhcpd.conf: Permission denied <---  -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 244 2009-06-26 00:11 dhcpd.conf  , what causes this ? ive tried dhcpd3 and the full path to: dhcpd3
[09:49] <brontosaurusrex> iceroot: something like that
[09:49] <knandan> just wanted to know whats the diff between different versions of Ubuntu..??
[09:49] <zahari_> iceroot, sorry for pasting I didn't know rules are that strict
[09:49] <mullein> how can i find out what version of ubuntu is installed?
[09:50] <DJones> knandan: Ubuntu uses Gnome as its desktop environment, Kubuntu uses KDE and Xubuntu uses XFCE
[09:50] <alteregoa> uname -r
[09:50] <om26er> mullein, system>administration>system monitor for gui
[09:50] <kwork> as default, you can use any of them on any of them
[09:50] <rww> ubottu: version | mullein
[09:51] <zahari_> iceroot, I cannot install/reinstall or remove anything because of 'libapache2-mod-python' it exits with error 127 of post install script
[09:51] <knandan> DJones: Thanks for response..
[09:51] <knandan> by version i mean..the different releases..
[09:51] <knandan> sorry for not being specific..
[09:51] <mullein> rww, thank you.  that was precisely what i needed
[09:52] <knandan> for e..g jaunty/karmic/koala etc..
[09:52] <zahari_> iceroot, I cannot install/reinstall or remove anything because of 'libapache2-mod-python' it exits with error 127 of post install script
[09:53] <ardchoille> knandan: newer version of software, and sometimes replacements likepidgin replaced with empathy in Karmic
[09:53] <DJones> knandan: No probs, Ubuntu is released every 6 months with updated versions of software, normally, if a new version is released, its not added to the current version unless it fixes a bug or security concern, effectively every 6 months you get a new version with the latest software, jaunty & karmic are the code names, jaunty was released in April 2009, Karmic in October 2010 etc
[09:54] <zahari_> iceroot, all this is happening because I deleted with "rm -rf /etc/apache2". Is there a way I an get out of this ?
[09:54] <brontosaurusrex> so Karmic came from the future? well thats really progress
[09:54] <DJones> brontosaurusrex: Ah well, I'm not awake yet :)
[09:54] <brontosaurusrex> ;)
[09:55] <Gnow> i wanna setup a freeradius server but the info i got from the web is different from the radiusd.conf that i have. anyone can give me a hint?
[09:55] <rww> brontosaurusrex, DJones: October 2009 ;)
[09:55] <DJones> knandan: As brontosaurusrex noticed, Karmic should have said released October 2009
[09:56] <knandan> DJones..thanks..yes..i have already seen teh Karmic release..:-)
[09:56] <ardchoille> knandan: and some of the releases are LTS (Long Term Support) which is supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server. Ubuntu 10.04 will be such a release
[09:56] <knandan> ardchoille: does that mean installation of pidgin on Karmic will fail?
[09:57] <ardchoille> iirc, 8.04 was the last LTS release4
[09:57] <ardchoille> knandan: not at all, I use pidgin in Karmic now
[09:57] <DJones> knandan: I use pidgin on karmic
[09:57]  * om26er use empathy
[09:57] <ardchoille> knandan: it's just one app swapped for another is all
[09:57] <alteregoa> i use pigthing in spastic sparrow
[09:58] <knandan> ardchoille DJones : I see..
[09:58] <ardchoille> alteregoa: Please stop that, you have been wanred numerous times and kicked once. Haven't you learned yet?
[09:58] <alteregoa> ardchoille what, i said what i used on my ubuntu fork
[09:59] <ikonia> alteregoa: this channel is for ubuntu support - not an ubuntu fork support
[09:59] <alteregoa> ok Sir
[10:00] <Shogoot> how do i make the join/parts messages to turn off? driving me insane...
[10:00] <ardchoille> Shogoot: in xchat?
[10:00] <rww> Shogoot: which client are you using?
[10:00] <Shogoot> mirc plain
[10:00] <alteregoa> mirc
[10:00] <ardchoille> Shogoot: never heard of it
[10:00] <rww> Shogoot: http://clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[10:00] <Shogoot> its the win original irc client
[10:00] <rww> Shogoot: `View => Options => pick "IRC". Click the "Events..." button. Change the "joins", "parts", "quits", and "nicks" to your desired settings: "In Status" or "Hide" are good options.`
[10:01] <yipstar> anyone familar with kvm around?
[10:01] <ikonia> yipstar: what's up ?
[10:01] <alteregoa> events
[10:01] <jk-cheng> on the user applet... in karmic it display username...
[10:02] <alteregoa> then select defaukt and use no
[10:02] <jk-cheng> how can i change it to Full name...
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> yipstar: Why are you using KVM? why not VirtualBox
[10:02] <alteregoa> just click events on the channel, and hide the event for mirc
[10:02] <ikonia> bilalakhtar: why should he not use kvm ?
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> ikonia: well kvm is difficult to use
[10:03] <bilalakhtar> ikonia
[10:03] <Shogoot> solved thanks
[10:03] <yipstar> ikonia: having trouble with ubuntu-vm-builder command whenever i pass the --libvirt qemu:///system option it fails with: libvir: Domain Config error : internal error not supported architecture for os type 'hvm'
[10:03] <alteregoa> i use mirc with wine, because it works better
[10:03] <ikonia> bilalakhtar: depends - I find it quite easy
[10:03] <yipstar> bilalakhtar: not sure... i was told kvm was good stuff, haven't really investigated VirtualBox yet
[10:03] <bilalakhtar> yipstar: Find info about KVM here:- http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[10:04] <ikonia> yipstar: ahh for vm-builder, join #ubuntu-virt, some good guys who actually built the builder
[10:04] <ikonia> yipstar: I don't use the builder to be honest
[10:04] <yipstar> bilalakhtar: thats the howto i'm following to the t
[10:04] <ikonia> (or at least very often)
[10:04] <yipstar> ikonia: thanks i'll give them a try
[10:04] <jk-cheng> on the panel user applet... in karmic it display username... how can i change it to Full name...
[10:04] <bilalakhtar> yipstar: KVM is MUCH more powerful than virtualbox
[10:05] <bilalakhtar> yipstar: So, if you want to use it, good
[10:05] <bilalakhtar> guys will return in a min
[10:05] <yipstar> bilalakhtar: i was a previous xen user but since ubuntu dropped support for it i'm trying to keep up with the times
[10:06] <alteregoa> someone has a good star-trek theme for ubuntu?
[10:06] <ikonia> alteregoa: look on the theme sites for lcars
[10:06] <Gnow> freeradius anyone?
[10:06] <ikonia> Gnow: that's not a question, try asking a quetion
[10:07] <Gnow> i wanna setup a freeradius server but the info i got from the web is different from the radiusd.conf that i have. anyone can give me a hint?
[10:07] <alteregoa> fascinating thanks ikonia
[10:07] <ikonia> Gnow: what website are you using, and what ubuntu version are you using ?
[10:07] <yipstar> ikonia: do you know if i can use the virsh command to register a vm after it has been created? effectively just not trying to do that part with the vm-builder command
[10:07] <ikonia> yipstar: you should be able to find, as long as the config xml confirms to the same host
[10:07] <yipstar> since vm-builder seems to run fine as long as i leave the --libvirt option out
[10:07] <ikonia> "fine" not find
[10:07] <ardchoille> alteregoa: I remember seeing lots of LCARS stuff on www.gnome-look.org
[10:08] <Gnow> ikonia this is the info i follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ChillispotHotspot/8.04, but the same way i install it but the radiusd.conf is different
[10:08] <yipstar> ikonia: is that just the attach-device command?
[10:09] <ikonia> yipstar: I don't know of the top of my head
[10:09] <tiagotiago> hi
[10:09] <yipstar> ikonia: cool i'll do my own homework its just late :) thanks for the help
[10:09] <csaba> I've changed /etc/profile... how can I make the changes effective without restarting the computer?
[10:10] <nachow> . profile
[10:10] <ikonia> yipstar: you'll be fine with it though
[10:10] <nachow> or source profile
[10:11] <bilalakhtar> hi ppl does anyone know how to install firefox 3.6 on ubuntu karmic
[10:11] <tiagotiago> i've already trired the metamode thing with disabling one monitor, but i still have fullscreen games showing halfway out of my primary monitor (i have two CRT, side by side using twinview, the primary is the one on the right)
[10:11] <tiagotiago> tried*
[10:11] <nachow> if you can't use . or source, abandon this crappy distro
[10:11] <bilalakhtar> sabdfl: I wish you were here!
[10:11] <csaba> yeah . works
[10:11] <nachow> ...
[10:13] <cyberjorge> anyone used "Badram kernel"? is it worth using and is it a major thing to setup?
[10:13] <movied_> brb
[10:14] <brontosaurusrex> what else should i backup http://bronto.pastebin.com/m7f8f0a8a ?
[10:14] <tiagotiago> how can i have fullscreen games go to a single monitor (preferably my primary), without loosing twinview, without loosing single cube for two monitors, and with the fullscreen game being properly centered and scaled?
[10:15] <DJones> bilalakhtar: You can use the Mozilla Daily Build PPA to install Firefox 3.6 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa Bt be aware that because its not part of the normal Ubuntu repository, it's generally unsupported
[10:15] <csaba> I'm deleting a large directory with rm -rf is there a way to display some percentages and ETA?
[10:15] <mgolisch> no
[10:20] <Lunar_Lamp> csaba: open another terminal, and use "watch du -sh /path/to/folder"
[10:20] <stix> Hi guys. Can I update my firefox to 3.6 via one of the package managers, or do I need to do it myself?
[10:20] <Alvinware> How to get bak the removed panel?
[10:20] <Kamcio> czesc;)
[10:20] <Kamcio> poklika ktos
[10:20] <Kamcio> hehehehe
[10:21] <DJones> !cz
[10:21] <Alvinware> Any one know how to get back the panel?
[10:21] <Kamcio> siema djones
[10:21] <csaba> Lunar_Lamp: and uh what would that do?
[10:21] <tiagotiago_> seems my connection hickupped, if anyone had answered me please repeat
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> csaba: it would give you the size of the directory '/path/to/folder' every 2seconds.
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> Thus allowing you to see the approx rate of deletion of files within that folder.
[10:22] <csaba> Lunar_Lamp: ah interesting
[10:23] <hawodi> Hello all.
[10:23] <Lunar_Lamp> csaba: when you've finished with it, use ctrl+c to exit.
[10:23] <Kamcio> welcome to my word frends;)
[10:24] <Kamcio> what sup ?
[10:24] <tolpico> Trying to increase my resolution, installed nvidia drivers, but nvidia-settings still doesnt show the updated reolution list containing higher resolutions. How should I go about this?
[10:24] <ikonia> Kamcio: type "/topic" to see the topic of this channel, it's a support channel aimed at the support discussion of Ubuntu
[10:24] <Kamcio> chuj z wami kutasy
[10:25] <tolpico> My xorg.conf, if it helps: http://pastebin.com/m54aa16be
[10:28] <Kamcio> pomoze ktos?
[10:28] <tiagotiago_> restarting to test somthing, be back in abit
[10:28] <Kamcio> nie znam zbyt dobrze angielskeigo a mam duzy problem
[10:28] <Kamcio> z kompem;/
[10:28] <Kamcio> prosze pomocy!
[10:28] <Kamcio> nie badzcie tacy
[10:28] <FloodBot1> Kamcio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:28] <XeroXer> Hi all! Does anyone have a good way to detect what monitor (if any) is connected at boot? I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit. On 32 bit I used a script with ddcprobe that moved the correct xorg.conf file at bootup. But ddcprobe doesn't work on 64 bit for me.
[10:28] <BooRadley> !english | Kamcio
[10:28] <Kamcio> ok sorry frends
[10:28] <BooRadley> !pl | Kamcio
[10:29] <hawodi> I just installed wine on my system ( Ubuntu Karmic ) and I get this error when ever I try starting wine from the command line: /usr/lib/../bin/wine-pthread: could not open
[10:29] <Kamcio> ok dzieki chlopaki 3majcie sie ramy to sie nie posram
[10:29] <BooRadley> Kamcio: please stop?
[10:29] <Revlex> hi
[10:29] <tiagotiago_> nope, setting the offser of the emtamode to somthing negative didn't recenter the fullscreen stufff :(
[10:32] <geekyogi> I've problem with vsftpd.. I am using chroot option to lock or jail the local user to their home directory... but when i use a browser.. as anonymous.. its able to navigate to root directory.. any solution to prevent this..??
[10:33] <tiagotiago_> is there a way i can force all fullscreen programs to actually be windowed?
[10:33] <llutz> geekyogi: don't allow anonymous access
[10:33] <geekyogi> i need anonymous access
[10:35] <ikonia> geekyogi: then set your file system permissions correctly
[10:37] <geekyogi> ikonia file permissions for /var/ftp ..??
[10:38] <Gary20> is there any special meaning when underscore is used as first character in naming a file? like the dot?
[10:39] <rww> Gary20: not that I know of
[10:39] <Gary20> alright
[10:41] <ikonia> geekyogi: for either your chroot or the /root file system,
[10:41] <ikonia> geekyogi: depending on if you have the user chrooted correctly (which it doesn't sound like you do)
[10:42] <hawodi> am getting this error whenever I try to start wine on karmic kaola.
[10:42] <Explore2> How can see the man page of a function with in vim
[10:43] <FunkyWeasel> Morning.
[10:43] <Explore2> for eg. if i need to see man fopen,
[10:43] <Explore2> how can i see?
[10:43] <FunkyWeasel> When using saveAll on a HABTM model the created/modified fields of the related tables are not updating.
[10:44] <ikonia> Explore2: why do you need to see it in vim - man is the command
[10:44] <tiagotiago_> how can i get rid of this SCiM thing, it popped up without i wanitng it and it keeps changing the language :/
[10:45] <clamiax> hi
[10:45] <FunkyWeasel> Oh dear, sorry.  Wrong chan.  D'oh.
[10:45]  * FunkyWeasel gets his coat.
[10:45] <clamiax> I got today an HP Pavilion 3003el with Windows 7 pre-installed (sigh)
[10:45] <clamiax> I'm going to install Ubuntu 9.10 but I wondering if the remote control will works
[10:45] <clamiax> does anyone have an idea about?
[10:45] <clamiax> TIA.
[10:46] <ikonia> clamiax: what remote control daemon do you want to use ?
[10:46] <clamiax> ikonia: whatever it works
[10:46] <Oli``> Is there a way to get Compiz to position windows in the same way that Metacity would? (ie centred in the middle of a screen, rather than touching borders)
[10:46] <ghthor> clamiax, that's why I build my own machines
[10:46] <clamiax> As far as I can tell, LIRC doesn't supports my device
[10:47] <ikonia> clamiax: you don't know if it will work or not until you decide what daemon to use, eg: if you want to use irda go tot he irda website and see if it supports the device/chipset
[10:47] <clamiax> ikonia: my device is not listed in any of the existing daemon hardware list
[10:47] <ikonia> clamiax: then it's not supported
[10:47] <clamiax> ghthor: what do you mean?
[10:48] <cyberjorge> otherwise recompile all my vm kernels
[10:48] <cyberjorge> anyone used "Badram kernel"? is it worth using and is it a major thing to setup?
[10:48] <geekyogi> @ikonia edited vsftpd.conf file.. der is no option to jail the anonymous user preventing it to view the root folders.. though its not able to access any of these folders.. The root folder's permission seems fine...
[10:48] <clamiax> ikonia: mmh... i'll have to try. Many time I get devices working even if they was not listed into the supported hardware list
[10:48] <ikonia> clamiax: then why ask ?
[10:49] <clamiax> ikonia: because I'd hope to hair some success story about it (and maybe some informations on how to setting it up)
[10:49] <clamiax> ikonia: it's obvious.
[10:49] <ghthor> clamiax: Putting together your own build rather then buying a "dell" means no pre-installed windows
[10:49] <ikonia> clamiax: you didn't give any info on the device, you jus said a hp laptop
[10:49] <ikonia> clamiax: if you reference the chipset some people may be more aware
[10:49] <clamiax> ghthor: that's doable with your own hardware; though this is my girlfriend's laptop and I would like to install Ubuntu on it
[10:50] <paolo> ciao
[10:50] <ghthor> oh its a laptop >_>
[10:50] <paolo> !list
[10:50] <clamiax> mmh
[10:50] <clamiax> ikonia: you must have some problem with your IRC client. I wrote HP Pavilion 3003el
[10:51] <clamiax> that's all you need to get informations about my hardware.
[10:51] <TiagoTiago> another thing, the Enhanced Zoom thing in Compiz isn't working anymore, it doesn't zoom, and makes the mouse cursor disapear or move weirdly, how do i fix this?
[10:51] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: compiz acts weirdly sometime. You need a bit of lucky when enabling new stuff. Try again.
[10:52] <clamiax> Though I'm not sure it's related to compiz rather then the video driver.
[10:53] <paolo> ciao
[10:53] <clamiax> e ciao
[10:53] <TiagoTiago> what can i do to try to fix this?
[10:53] <rambo3> where is sh located ? /usr/ ?
[10:53] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: it depends on your skills.
[10:54] <clamiax> To be honest, I can't help you much. Compiz is offlimit for me.
[10:54] <TiagoTiago> i can follow instructions and extrapolate from things that make sense
[10:54] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: it may be useful tu strace(1) compiz in order to understand what's wrong
[10:55] <clamiax> but I'm pretty sure a web surfing can be fast and yet helpful.
[10:55] <TiagoTiago> "tu strace(1)" what does that mean? is that a command i should run on a terminal?
[10:56] <barije> asdh
[10:56] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: yes. It is, but if you never used it, then it can appear weird to you
[10:56] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: does the mouse will appeare again if you switch to a VT, then back to X11?
[10:57] <pretender_> is there a command in linux to list all users logged onto a windows terminal server
[10:57] <Bluespuke> hello, i've a problem... i've a laptop (no floppy, cd broken, no usb boot) with 9.10 installed on it. i need win XP besides or as replacement... any ideas how i could do this?
[10:58] <TiagoTiago> the mouse flickers, jitters, and somtimes disapear, right clicking seems to bring it back to normal, and  scrollling out, the motion to zoom out back to normal, also seems to fix it
[10:58] <clamiax> Bluespuke: wrong channel
[10:59] <while> win xp
[10:59] <while> and he`s on ubuntu channel
[10:59] <while> :))))))))
[10:59] <clamiax> don't byte newbie. They're just newbie ;-)
[10:59] <clamiax> And don't byte me for my terrible english :-(
[11:00] <while> if he managed to install 9.10 on his laptop lol he must me able to install win xp
[11:00] <Bluespuke> sorry, but the current os is ubuntu and i don't know how to get an alternate partition without using a live cd
[11:00] <while> don`t worry about your english lol :D
[11:00] <TiagoTiago> clamiax, i tried runnign the command you told me, and the terminal said "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('"
[11:00] <while> external cd-rom
[11:00] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: what did you run, exactly?
[11:01] <TiagoTiago> i just copy/pasted wha tyou wrote
[11:01] <msilva> hello, good morning to all, I would like to help me install the metasploit umbuntu grateful ...
[11:01] <QPrime> Bluespuke: apt-get install gparted
[11:01] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: you should read strace(1) before drive you crazy with useless attempts.
[11:01] <while> try using #!/bin/bash -x
[11:02] <TiagoTiago> what do you mean bu "read strace(1)"" ?
[11:02] <TiagoTiago> by*
[11:02] <QPrime> Bluespuke: assuming that you have net access.
[11:02] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: read the man page for strace (which is at section 1)
[11:02] <Bluespuke> QPrime: yes i do
[11:02] <QPrime> Bluespuke: apt-get install gparted
[11:02] <TiagoTiago> ok
[11:03] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: but again, you should use strace as last resource. Try to surf the web first, it's likely you'll find a solution.
[11:05] <Jaime1985> Hello-Permission to request to paste a link that involves voting for me to join the creative national team of my country. I could use the votes. May I Paste my creative entry for you all to vote?
[11:05] <Jaime1985> its quick to vote.
[11:05] <clamiax> Jaime1985: why someone should vote you?
[11:05] <DJones> Jaime1985: This is a support channel, so it wouldn't be appropriate here
[11:05] <Bluespuke> ok, i got gparted but i can't resize the current partition...
[11:05] <TiagoTiago> i was focusing my websearches on the misaligned fullscreen issue, i hadn't thought about looking up stuff about this glitch, here ont he channel, since i didn't got answer for my first inquiry i started asking for help with less important issues i'm having
[11:05] <Jaime1985> because I believe my entry is comendable
[11:05] <Jaime1985> its very quick.
[11:05] <Jaime1985> and you will enjoy my design
[11:06] <Jaime1985> and this oppertunity comes once in a long time
[11:06] <QPrime> Bluespuke: makes sense.. its active at the moment.
[11:06] <clamiax> uhm
[11:06] <clamiax> you didn't convinced me. Wrong channel, bye.
[11:06] <Bluespuke> QPrime: that i knew before... so if i have just 1 partition and no boot options, i'm f*cked up?
[11:08] <QPrime> Bluespuke: perhaps not.
[11:08] <QPrime> Bluespuke: but it gets more difficult
[11:08] <KinkyKamikaze> I am trying to install a bunch of stuff, most compiled from source. How can I install them, where do you normally place them, and what do I type in my path to get access to them as they were normally installed with apt-get
[11:08] <Bluespuke> that's why i'm here to get a little help ;-)
[11:09] <while> clamiax, hahahaha "you didn't convinced me. Wrong channel, bye."
[11:09] <QPrime> Bluespuke: its possible to create a ram drive copy some needed files and swap roots to the new drive.
[11:09] <TiagoTiago> another symptom to add ot the list, the background of the spinnning cube is gettign whited out
[11:09] <QPrime> Bluespuke: thats more involved than most ppl are willing to help with :(
[11:10] <QPrime> Bluespuke: you said usb boot is a no go?
[11:10] <Bluespuke> QPrime: no usb boot and cd drive is broken...
[11:10] <nachow> livexxx is crap
[11:10] <nachow> they are not flexable
[11:11] <while> BlueEagle, you have comport ?
[11:11] <TiagoTiago> reloaidng the windows manager fixed that last one
[11:11] <TiagoTiago> damn, only untill i tried zomming again :/
[11:11] <arand> Bluespuke: pxe boot?
[11:12] <Bluespuke> arand: i heared about this, what do i need for it?
[11:12] <Bluespuke> i just have another xp computer around
[11:12] <QPrime> arand: good idea... but hes gonna need a server
[11:12] <nachow> somebody can try to break in your network and pxe your systems
[11:13] <Spajderix> hi
[11:13] <nachow> thet'a why
[11:13] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: it seems there's a bug about the XFIXES extension of X which nobodywants to fix
[11:13] <wild_oscar> does anyone know if NetworkManager supports dynamic APN for mobile connections?
[11:13] <TiagoTiago> :(
[11:13] <QPrime> Bluespuke: does you box even support pxe booting?
[11:13] <kakuzu> hi is there anyone of you who ever tried "wubi" ? am planning to use linux
[11:14] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: but it also seems to be a workaround ;)
[11:14] <Bluespuke> network boot yes, if that's what you mean
[11:14] <TiagoTiago> where can i read about it?
[11:14] <nachow> i won't cause its name
[11:14] <nachow> cause of
[11:14] <QPrime> Bluespuke: yup thats it.
[11:14] <nachow> wubi = cheating in mandarin
[11:14] <Spajderix> I'm running hardy on asus laptop with sata 250gb hdd. hdparm -t /dev/sda shows approximately 8MB/s but when I start ubuntu 9.10 live same command shows 60MB/s. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[11:15] <kakuzu> wubi = ubuntu installer for windows :|
[11:15] <arand> Bluespuke: There are a few options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[11:15] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: i'm actually reading this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/227907
[11:15] <QPrime> Bluespuke: well you have an option.  pxe is not specific to linux you should be able to find info on it with a search.
[11:15] <Jaime1985> http://www.designindaba.com/superstars/entry/jaime-de-gouveia
[11:15] <alteregoa> i need a klinzhai font
[11:15] <Bluespuke> QPrime: ok, i'll give it a try
[11:16] <Guest56415> hi all
[11:16] <alteregoa> did ya hear a quake shattered antarctica with 9.3 on the richter scale
[11:16] <ardchoille> !ot | alteregoa
[11:17] <alteregoa> ah wrong channel sorry
[11:18] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: just to try, disable Twinview in xorg.conf
[11:18] <clamiax> and try to use EZoom again.
[11:18] <tiagotiago_> i rememebr i once saw this setting, it was somthing baout fullscreen, id on't remember what it was, nor where it was located, much less it's name, i think it was somewhere in the compix settings, but i could be wrong, any idea?
[11:19] <tiagotiago_> i gotta loose twinview? :/
[11:19] <clamiax> uhm... it's just a try to understand where's the problem
[11:19] <clamiax> no idea about fullscreen thing in compiz
[11:19] <defn> What's the fastest way to get a vnc server running on 9.10?  I find it hard to believe there's no package that will just automatically add it to init.d etc.
[11:19] <mzimbres> hi, how can I find out which services are running on which ports? of the local host?
[11:19] <pat|nG> how can i put a picture on my desktop? like want it to set as a wallpaper?
[11:20] <tiagotiago_> i think it was near this other checkbox about rendering to off screen textures or somthing
[11:20] <clamiax> nfc
[11:20] <simplexio> mzimbres: netstat -l
[11:21] <Beto> #T-P
[11:21] <tiagotiago_> ok, now i lost one monitor, for the moment, brb
[11:22] <wild_oscar> also, is there a timer in network manager that can display the total connected time?
[11:22] <wild_oscar> (I have a prepaid GSM connection, want to have my costs controlled)
[11:22] <tparcina> Hi channel!
[11:23] <tparcina> How to get more informations about perticular PCIE card? (I would like to get information about chipset of my wireless card)
[11:23] <clamiax> wild_oscar: try with accounting rules of iptables or just install an ad-hoc tool.
[11:23] <victor__> hi i wanna install kubuntu9.10 into a usb memory of 8Gb of capacity but i'm not sure if it's gonna works...
[11:23] <tparcina> wild_oscar: Smart (having prepaid card).
[11:24] <wild_oscar> tparcina: smart is the name of a tool?
[11:24] <clamiax> wild_oscar: unlucky, ifconfig doesn't supports statistics anymore.
[11:24] <tiagotiago_> hm, i think i messed up somthing, sec
[11:24] <clamiax> victor__: why it shouldn't works?
[11:24] <clamiax> tiagotiago_ :)
[11:24] <nachow> is ubuntu designed for a usbkey or a memory card?
[11:24] <tparcina> wild_oscar: No, smart is to have GSM on prepaid :)
[11:24] <wild_oscar> tparcina: haha! oh
[11:24] <nachow> iirc, ubuntu is designed for livecd
[11:25] <clamiax> nachow: no, but it will works anyway.
[11:25] <victor__> clamiax: i mean is the capacity enough? is the OS working very slower?
[11:25] <nachow> yes, but something will go wrong
[11:25] <tparcina> How to find out whic chipset does my wireless card have (PCIE)?
[11:25] <clamiax> nachow: though, there's some version which is designed to be run on portable devices.
[11:25] <wild_oscar> tparcina: yeah, I don't need mobile broadband all the time; just when I go to meetings. rather expensive, but good if they do charge on 5 minute increments
[11:25] <clamiax> nachow: whath will go wrong, to you?
[11:25] <nachow> you will know
[11:26] <clamiax> victor__: the capacity is enough, about speed: it seems obvious that it will be slower than a SATA disk.
[11:26] <clamiax> nachow: i'll wait then.
[11:27] <victor__> clamiax: but is the different too big?
[11:27] <nachow> i hate dd guys
[11:27] <clamiax> victor__: I think the only difference is the storage device. All the hardware is exactly the same, isn't?
[11:28] <Bluespuke> hmm, i've another idea: is it possible to reinstall (and reformat the disks) from an existing ubuntu installation?
[11:28] <victor__> clamiax: yeah
[11:28]  * _Ovidiu is away: Gone away for now
[11:28] <clamiax> Bluespuke: it sounds a bit tricky but I guess it's possible.
[11:29] <nachow> how can you format a on-fly disk?
[11:29] <clamiax> Bluespuke: why should you do a thing like that?
[11:29] <clamiax> nachow: mfs?
[11:29] <clamiax> err
[11:29] <clamiax> *mkfs
[11:29] <nachow> on root partition?
[11:29] <Bluespuke> clamiax: so i could get another partition to copy a live cd and install xp
[11:30] <clamiax> nachow: on any partition
[11:30] <clamiax> Bluespuke: mmh.. your problem is that you haven't enough space to get the live CD?
[11:30] <nachow> hahaha
[11:31]  * nachow is tired of these dd guys
[11:31] <Bluespuke> clamiax: i have a lot of space (70gb) but it's only one partition
[11:31] <clamiax> nachow: what's wrong with dd?
[11:31] <clamiax> Bluespuke: ah, what mountpoint/filesystem?
[11:31] <nachow> it sounds like to upgrade the toolchian on a running system
[11:32] <clamiax> nachow: NetBSD people do it once a week
[11:32] <clamiax> ;)
[11:32] <nachow> dd guys ruin many systems until they get a glith way to work
[11:32] <papul> i am trying to compile a program and i want it to install to /home/papul/dir and not any where else
[11:32] <nachow> then they think that they are smarter than other people
[11:32] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, anyone know a fair amount about SSL
[11:32] <nwillems> Hi. I have a problem with external monitors for my laptop. I have 2 external monitors, a normal 19" monitor and a Full-HD flat-screen.
[11:32] <papul> !ask | Jimi_Neutral
[11:33] <Bluespuke> clamiax: it's the ubuntu drive
[11:33] <clamiax> papul: if it uses autof*ck stuff use the --prefix option, else edit the config.mk file.
[11:33] <papul> clamiax: --prefix???
[11:33] <dsearle> papul: If it is using standard makefiles you can use make DESTDIR=dir install
[11:33] <papul> please tell me the exact command
[11:33] <clamiax> Bluespuke: it sounds hard then
[11:33] <mzimbres> papul, ./configure --prefix=/home/papul/dir
[11:33] <papul> mzimbres: ok thanks
[11:34] <papul> no need to do anything during make install?
[11:34] <clamiax> papul: ./configure --help will tell you all options. You have to use ./configure --prefix=<destination> anyway
[11:34] <Jimi_Neutral> I didnt ask to ask a question lol
[11:34] <Jimi_Neutral> I said does anyone know a fair bit about SSL
[11:34] <Jimi_Neutral> that is a question :D
[11:34] <papul> Jimi_Neutral: go to #ssl
[11:34] <dsearle> papul: if you use the prefix method in config then no
[11:34] <clamiax> Jimi_Neutral: someone know about SSL for sure.
[11:34] <papul> ok thanks for the help all of you :)
[11:35] <papul> now lemme try compiling it
[11:35] <mzimbres> papul, no, just make and make install since you have writte permissions to that directory.
[11:35] <Jimi_Neutral> thos channels dont exist
[11:35] <nwillems> Jimi_Neutral, I'm no expert in SSL, but maybee I can guide you in the right direction, or maybee just point you to the channel #ssl
[11:35] <clamiax> JimiNeutral: try #openssl
[11:35] <clamiax> oh, sorry. *Jimi_Neutral.
[11:36] <Jimi_Neutral> tht one does tho clamiax ty :)
[11:36] <clamiax> yw
[11:37] <clamiax> Thanks anyway for your help and time. BBL
[11:37] <skydrome> is there a way to dim all but the foreground window?
[11:38] <ardchoille> skydrome: compiz can do that but I know of no other way
[11:38] <greenlantern> Hello
[11:38] <nwillems> I have a problem when connecting my flat-screen tv to my laptop, and the afterwards connecting my PC-monitor, and back again to the flat-screen, my laptop dosen't recognise the flat-scrren second time. Neither GUI or xrandr :(
[11:38] <skydrome> ya preferably without compiz
[11:39] <indus> hi
[11:39] <ardchoille> skydrome: That would be the responsibility of the window manager and Metacity can't do it
[11:39] <pat|nG> how can i put a picture on my desktop? like want it to set as a wallpaper?
[11:39] <indus> does anyone know if pasting how tos from ubuntu site to another blog is legal?
[11:39] <skydrome> ahh makes sense, ty ardchoille
[11:39] <ardchoille> yw
[11:39] <Younes> hi. What's the deal with ubuntu-netbook-remix? It's terrible
[11:40] <nwillems> indus, it probably is, as long as you credit the poster or release as same license, just a sec
[11:40] <ardchoille> pat|nG: right click the desktop, choose Change background, click the Add button and find a picture to use
[11:40] <Explore2> ikonia: man fopen can't i do?
[11:40] <nwillems> indus, what site exactly are you talking about?
[11:40] <Explore2> it doesn't work in shell also
[11:41] <ardchoille> Which package provides the script-worker tool?
[11:43] <papul_> i want to install a package called c-ares
[11:43] <papul_> but i cant find it in the repos
[11:44] <indus> nwillems, hi
[11:44] <papul> anyone?
[11:44] <indus> nwillems, from help.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <nwillems> Copyed from https://help.ubuntu.com/legal.html: Creative Commons ShareAlike 3.0 License (CC-BY-SA)
[11:45] <Younes> hi. Can I skip netbook-remix and go with a desktop instead on my netbook?
[11:45] <pat|nG> how can i activate my 3D desktop? do i need to install some program to do with it?
[11:46] <Younes> pat|nG settings->visual effects .. done
[11:46] <Younes> something like that*
[11:46] <pat|nG> i used kubuntu tho
[11:47] <pat|nG> is it the same?
[11:47] <Myrtti> pat|nG: no.
[11:47] <nwillems> indus, here is the short description of it: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
[11:47] <pat|nG> so where can i change that?
[11:47] <Myrtti> pat|nG: why don't you ask in #kubuntu?
[11:48] <nwillems> indus, I promise you will understand this license page, I've used it for my own blog
[11:48] <pat|nG> no one is there
[11:48] <echo> hi
[11:48] <pat|nG> it's a ghost channel
[11:49] <Myrtti> pat|nG: 240nicks though
[11:49] <echo> welcome to freedom)
[11:49] <pat|nG> yup
[11:49] <pat|nG> but one do reply
[11:49] <pat|nG> :(
[11:49] <pat|nG> now atlast someone is here
[11:50] <marcuy> hi pat|nG
[11:50] <indus> nwillems, i have copy pasted to my blog, but its a company blog
[11:50] <indus> dont want any legal problems
[11:51] <rodfersou> hi everyone
[11:52] <Gary20> when coding in windows, i interact and store data in .ini files. is there an something like that in linux?
[11:52] <marcuy> hi rodfersou
[11:53] <rodfersou> what steps I follow to statically link a program into ubuntu? (I wanna statically link irssi to put the binary into my pendrive)
[11:53] <Myrtti> Gary20: very much so, in linux everything is saved in files
[11:53] <rodfersou> marcuy, =]
[11:53] <Myrtti> Gary20: linux doesn't have a windows registry kind of mechanism
[11:53] <Gary20> Myrtti, oh yeah. everything is file in linux. forgot
[11:53] <indus> happy new year folks :)
[11:53] <Gary20> Myrtti, so there's no specific format such as .ini?
[11:54] <Myrtti> Gary20: some apps use gconf format, some don't. Some store their configs in .config-directory, some don't.
[11:54] <Gary20> ok
[11:54] <nwillems> indus, try reading the simple license page: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
[11:55] <nwillems> indus, its 20 lines of short text
[11:55] <indus> nwillems, yes i did, but trust me,its not that simple sometimes
[11:55] <rodfersou> Gary20, gconf is almost like windows registry
[11:55] <indus> anyways thanks for the help.
[11:56] <fasta> When I do 'tsocks telnet yahoo.com' I get telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Transport endpoint is already connected. Why?
[11:56] <Gary20> "... XML file storage is the most common configuration." ?
[11:57] <Myrtti> Gary20: some files use that format, some don't. It's totally up to the developer what configuration format they use.
[11:59] <nwillems> indus, sry for leaving, just fucked up my display settings bad :P
[11:59] <indus> nwillems, ok easy on the language
[11:59] <Gary20> ok. i'll look into this more. thanks
[12:00] <indus> though, in some 100 years that word will mean something totally different
[12:00] <nwillems> indus, oh my appologize
[12:00] <indus> :D
[12:01] <nwillems> indus, did the simple license page help you?
[12:01] <echo> when ubuntu will support Fn keys ?
[12:01] <echo> * on samsung r60 laptops
[12:02] <fasta> echo: probably when someone pays to do so.
[12:02] <nwillems> echo, When you find out, please tell me :) I have an Lenovo S10e
[12:02] <indus> nwillems, yes thanks
[12:02] <indus> nwillems, cc sa license
[12:02] <fasta> echo: basically, someone has to figure out how the Windows drivers work and then port it to Linux.
[12:03] <nwillems> fasta, couldn't you just look at the raw-keyboard output?
[12:04] <ycy___> hi there
[12:04] <tiagotiago> switching off twinview gives me the zoom back, but i can't get it to work well with each monitor as it's own x session :/
[12:04] <ycy___> I have x11vnc auto-runned upon system boot. How do I know where is it launched? [i mean: in which file]
[12:05] <suigeneris> ycy___ grep
[12:05] <ycy___> suigeneris: in which dir
[12:05] <nwillems> Can anyone tell me how to setup my HD flatscreen for 720p? The GUI and xrandr dosen't detect it until restart
[12:05] <tiagotiago> fullscreen also work correctly without twinview :/
[12:05] <echo> i am satisfied all.. but only brightness adjustment not normally working..
[12:05] <ycy___> root@servertwo:/etc# grep -R x11vnc *
[12:05] <ycy___> root@servertwo:/etc#
[12:05] <tiagotiago> hm, gonna see how bad Xinerama is
[12:06] <suigeneris> grep -r x11vnc /etc/init.d
[12:06] <suigeneris> ycy___ ^^
[12:06] <ycy___> root@servertwo:/etc# grep -r x11vnc /etc/init.d/
[12:06] <ycy___> root@servertwo:/etc#
[12:06] <nwillems> echo, I'm neither having any real problems, its just wireless on/off and "screen changer"
[12:08] <echo> nwillems, my wi-fi adapter can be powered on/off by network manager or "ifconfig up/down wlan0" but works only in 9.10
[12:08] <ashrafbaha2> mk
[12:08] <London90> does anyone know when firefox 3.6 will be put in the ubuntu repos?
[12:08] <ashrafbaha2> hi
[12:09] <nwillems> echo, well, but wouldn't it be nice to have support for the little fancy button :)
[12:09] <echo> nwillems, yeah :)
[12:09] <DJones> London90: It will possibly be in the repo's for Lucid, but normally the new versions aren't backdated into an older version of Ubuntu
[12:10] <London90> DJones: thanks for the info!
[12:10] <echo> i remembered another trouble.. ati radeon X2300 drivers ..
[12:10] <bullgard> Why does my Karmic-Synaptic not show the  DEB program package  »mlton«? Synaptic package manager > Settings > Repositories > Software Sources > Ubuntu Software > Community-maintained Open-Source software (universe) is asserted. '~$ apt-cache search mlton; mlton - Optimizing compiler for Standard ML'
[12:10] <scunizi> London90: there is a PPA on launchpad for that.. I'm running 8.04 and have it.  there are daily updates
[12:10] <consolecowboy> if anyone else uses google reader with firefox 3.6, do you notice that 'v' (to open a the story) doesn't work half the time?
[12:11] <nwillems> echo, btw how can I find the right keyboard vendor, model for my laptop?
[12:12] <heoa> how can you use Grep like Ack-Grep?
[12:12] <London90> scunizi: Great, I don't suppose you have the link or remember which site you got it from?
[12:12] <heoa> ie you see the file after each match
[12:13] <scunizi> London90: launchpad is the site.. I'll google.
[12:13] <echo> nwillems, not what you need..
[12:14] <scunizi> London90: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[12:14] <nwillems> echo, ??
[12:14] <echo> nwillems, google for kernel-patch for you notebook model
[12:14] <London90> scunizi: great, thanks!
[12:15] <pat|nG> how can i install flash player on my browser?
[12:15] <pat|nG> i can't play videos on youtube
[12:15] <nwillems> echo, on the keyboard issue or on the display problem?
[12:16] <scunizi> pat|nG: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:16] <setkeh`> did my last message make it ??
[12:16] <Cynix01> xbmc from apt-get crashes on start ? any bugfixes ?
[12:17] <MK1974> hi
[12:17] <echo> awk, official ati drivers not suppors old radeons.. and there are alternative drvers - radeonhd.. how to configure radeonhd drivers, because linux games are works normaly, but windows games works with very small fps
[12:17] <echo> ?
[12:18] <MK1974> my gnome-terminal won't start anymore.
[12:18] <hyperstream> Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied.  <--- -rwxrwxrwx 1 root dhcpd 1 2010-01-22 19:54 /var/run/dhcpd.pid <-- dmesg shows: [23945.100846] type=1503 audit(1264162555.029:37):  operation="open" pid=13719 parent=2687 profile="/usr/sbin/dhcpd3" requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" fsuid=116 ouid=0 name="/var/run/dhcpd.pid"
[12:18] <hyperstream> any idea;s on this issue ?
[12:18] <echo> nwillems, kernel problem
[12:18] <MK1974> uninstalled and installed again already. nothing helps
[12:18] <echo> nwillems, problem of unsupported..
[12:19] <MK1974> when starting terminal for half a second terminal pop up and closes automatically
[12:19] <setkeh`> i keep getting spat into a busy box shell on my ubuntu server install saying "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/hddhexadress does not exist" any ideas??
[12:19] <nwillems> echo, I haven't noticed any kernel problem on my laptop :P what you mean unsupported?
[12:19] <echo> nwillems, there are some patches for any Fn supporting
[12:20] <MK1974> anyone got an idea
[12:20] <MK1974> ?
[12:20] <echo> nwillems, any newest kernel just do not support Fn keys
[12:20] <llutz> setkeh`: compare uuid from alert with your actual ones, fix grub/fstab then
[12:20] <scunizi> setkeh`: sudo blkid .. make notes on the uuid's of the drives.. then sudo nano /etc/fstab and compare the previous uuid's with what is listed in fstab.. sounds like you have a drive/partition with an unrecognizable uuid
[12:20] <nwillems> echo, ahh that way. well, I had an idea that supporting Fn is similar to supporting "windows"-key
[12:21] <echo> :)
[12:22] <echo> upper i means only not very popular laptops and some unsupported keys, as wi-fi, brightness and some others
[12:22] <setkeh`> scunizi: is there any way of doing this from inside busybox because i cannot boot
[12:22] <echo> in most of laptops there are amazing ubuntu supporting for hardware
[12:22] <llutz> setkeh`: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[12:23] <scunizi> setkeh`: probably but I don't know busybox..
[12:23] <setkeh`> llutz: ty will give it a shot
[12:23] <nwillems> would like to have windows for the applications menu, and then windows-r for "run application dialog", actually my brightness and sound and the PgUp/Dn, Del, Home, End is working, only one i miss is SysRq. Cant do Ctrl+SysRq+BckSp
[12:23] <nwillems> even NumLock and scrolllock is working
[12:24] <mapa> lk
[12:24] <indus> nwillems, ctl sysrq-backspace? for what is that used
[12:24] <setkeh`> llutz: they are the same uuids fstab vs the error
[12:24] <llutz> setkeh`: grub?
[12:24] <nwillems> indus, restart X, ctrl+alt+bcksp is not supported anymore, read it on the forums
[12:25] <indus> nwillems, its alt sysrq K
[12:25] <scunizi> nwillems: try ctrl+sysrq+k
[12:25] <indus> no no
[12:25] <indus> ALT SYSRQ K
[12:25] <nwillems> indus, maybee thats why it didn't work :P
[12:25] <echo> and yet, how to configure radeonhd?
[12:25] <hyperstream> can selinux be causing this error how can i fix this?:  Synaptic package manager > Settings > Repositories > Software Sources > Ubuntu Software > Community-maintained Open-Source software (universe) is asserted. '~$ apt-cache search mlton; mlton - Optimizing compiler for Standard ML'
[12:34] <mohamed> hi
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !find mlton
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> !info  mlton
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> !info mlton
[12:36] <michaeldobrovits> Hello, does anyone knows why ut3 through wine has sound issues, can those enviromental distortion can be fixed?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> I thought UT3 had a native linux client..  of course wine has some sound issues with pulse audio in many games.
[12:38] <michaeldobrovits> Dr_Willis: ut3 doesn't have a native linux client. i don't use pulse on my jaunty do you have any idea which lib is probably damaged or if there's any chance of overriding enviroment fx in wines registry?
[12:38] <bullgard> !info eclipse
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> michaeldobrovits:  no idea.  check teh wine app database
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> michaeldobrovits:  they may have some info on the sound issues.
[12:39] <nwillems> times leet
[12:39] <michaeldobrovits> k, thx/
[12:39] <michaeldobrovits> .
[12:40] <mazda01> sick of making coasters, gonna try to get a new dvd burner. want dvd-ram and dvd-dl burning capabilities. ne1 suggest brand?  Ive seen many are just rebranded from the same company
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Sometimes you can find an identcial optical drive rebranded under a differnt company for better prices if ya find them on sale
[12:43] <llutz> mazda01: just buy one, use recommended media and hope it will work. times are gone whit significant differences in quality etc between burners
[12:43] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, i am merely asking if ne1 has had more success with LG over Lite-On or vice-versa etc etc etc
[12:44] <llutz> mazda01: maybe look that firmware-updates don't need windows (samsung-like)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  it all would be subjective Ive had optical drives from all those companies.. and had them all die befor.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  ages ago i tried to stay with lite-on - but as i said many other brands are actually lite-on rebranded
[12:45] <llutz> even plextor is crap since years :(
[12:45] <bullgard> Why does my Karmic-Synaptic not show the  DEB program package  »mlton«? Synaptic package manager > Settings > Repositories > Software Sources > Ubuntu Software > Community-maintained Open-Source software (universe) is asserted. '~$ apt-cache search mlton; mlton - Optimizing compiler for Standard ML'
[12:46] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, next question, is sata or pata way to go. \
[12:46] <llutz> mazda01: sata, pata is dead
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  i see no reason to ever use pata if you dont need to
[12:46] <Yarcanox> "pycentral: pycentral rtinstall: package python-twisted-core: not overwriting local files"
[12:46] <Myrtti> bullgard: check that you don't have any filters or searches that prevent it from showing
[12:46] <Yarcanox> now what? apt-get fails to upgrade python2.5 during apt-get upgrade and will fail everytime I try to install anything else
[12:46] <Yarcanox> :<
[12:46] <Yarcanox> even -f doesn't help
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:48] <Yarcanox> Dr_Willis: same error
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> hit it with a hammer..
[12:48] <Yarcanox> it always attempts to upgrade that python thing first and then comes up with that error
[12:48] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, now fot the medium. verbatim, hp, phillips, sony, tdk? there are so many?
[12:48] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[12:49] <Yarcanox> Dr_Willis: the upgrade has security relevant bind (some exploit) and openssl (that negotation vulnerability) fixes
[12:49] <Yarcanox> and it's on a production server
[12:49] <virkang> Hi everyone
[12:49] <Yarcanox> >.>
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  flip a coin. :) i just buy whats on sale.. and i keep backups..
[12:49] <Yarcanox> that means I need those upgrades to be proceeded. and I don't care about python at all.
[12:49] <mazda01> do you guys use dvd+r or dvd-r for making dvd movies>
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Yarcanox:  you could remove the python pacaktge I guess.. but that may be a bad idea
[12:49] <Yarcanox> yea
[12:50] <Yarcanox> because a lot of things depend on it
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  most all the players i have now - can use either one.
[12:50] <Yarcanox> if anyone has an idea how to fix this, please tell me.
[12:50] <Yarcanox> maybe I just need to remove the "local files" it doesn't want to overwrite
[12:50] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, any doesn't say k3b, automatically mark a dvd+r with the dvd-r bit anyway so that it can be played in most dvd players?
[12:50] <Yarcanox> but as the output is so insanely verbose, I have no idea what to do from here
[12:51] <llutz> mazda01: most companies have lists of media you should use with a specific drive. use them
[12:51] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, that is the difference right? dvd+r is for data (computers) and dvd-r is for dvd players in the family room? i mean ages ago.
[12:51] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  i think it was more of a marketing thing. I seem to find +r on sale more then -r. i got an OLD laptop that can only read -r.
[12:52] <EsatYuce> I downloaded Stardict dictionary from official website. How can i install the application?
[12:52] <mazda01> llutz, i am going with a lite-on DH-24AAS and I don't see anywhere on the tigerdirect website that says what media to use. maybe i need to check manufactureers website?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  what was it exactly you downloaded? doestt the site give any install directions>
[12:53] <llutz> mazda01: old stand-alone dvd-player had some compatibility-problems with +r, so -R was preferred. shouldn't make any difference today
[12:53] <EsatYuce> it gave me the link and mirror
[12:53] <llutz> mazda01: manufacturers site should offer those lists
[12:53] <paulus68> what do I need to adapt in this script to make sure that the file last is empty after running this script? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2134c93f
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  and what EXACTLY was the pacakge/file type you downloaded?
[12:53] <EsatYuce> Dr_Willis,  there are many folders and files in the directory
[12:54] <iflema> Yarcanox its reversible... sudo mv /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin /var/cache/apt/pkgcache-old.bin && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:54] <Yarcanox> http://pastebin.com/d5fc40e7d please help >.>
[12:54] <EsatYuce> the name is /stardict-3.0.0/
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> foobarwhatever.tar.gz ? or somthing?
[12:54] <Yarcanox> iflema: what exactly will that do?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> if its source code. you need to compile it EsatYuce
[12:54] <EsatYuce> Dr_Willis,  it is .deb package
[12:54] <bullgard> Myrtti: I did not switch on any filters (at least not intentionally). I quit Synaptic and restarted it. Now Synaptic finds »mlton«. I have never experienced a similar bug before. --  Thank you for your help.
[12:55] <iflema> Yarcanox force a refresh of the package database and hopefully an upgade
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  why did you extract it then to a directroy?  'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  is the command to insstall them normalluy
[12:55] <EsatYuce> ok, i will try this command
[12:55] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[12:55] <llutz> paulus68: why not using "last skeleton" instead of grepping?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> actually if you double click on a .deb  - its supposed to install it.
[12:56] <Yarcanox> iflema: not helping at all
[12:56] <surf> how can I remove evm?
[12:56] <Yarcanox> >.>
[12:56] <Yarcanox> same error.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> !info evm
[12:56] <Pici> Yarcanox: Can you pastebin the entire error you are getting?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> surf:  how did you install it?
[12:56] <Yarcanox> already did: http://pastebin.com/d5fc40e7d
[12:56] <Pici> Yarcanox: ty
[12:57] <storm1> hello guys
[12:57] <storm1> my login doesn't work any longer
[12:57] <surf> Dr_Willis, I dunno. Seems that removing evms solves my problem lookin at launchpad...
[12:57] <llutz> paulus68: "last -t" may help too
[12:57] <storm1> can someone assist pls?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  tell the channel what the ssytem is doing exactly. and where its not working at.
[12:57] <storm1> gdm starts, login works, but right after that i stand at the login mask again
[12:57] <paulus68> llutz: well didn't think of that but the question is how to empty the last file at the end of the script
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  so either X or the Desktop is crashing. it seems.
[12:58] <EsatYuce> Dr_Willis,  what is the different between to download direct link and to use command line?
[12:58] <surf> Dr_Willis, could you please help me with this strange udevd --daemon occuping 100% of cpu?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  can you login to the console?
[12:58] <storm1> if i log into a console, kill gdm and run "startx" it works
[12:58] <Urda> question: what does Firefox 3.6 mean for the Persona add on?
[12:58] <llutz> paulus68: echo "" >lastfile
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  Huh?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  that is weird.
[12:59] <EsatYuce> Dr_Willis, why cant i install it while downloading direct link?
[12:59] <storm1> really :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  you download the .deb and install the .deb  tahts how it works. normall.
[12:59] <storm1> Dr_Willis: any idea, where to find some error msgs? it's a plain default installation with nothing special, only a few weeks old
[13:00] <paulus68> llutz: and this will result in a empty file afterwards?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> actually using a repo/pacakg3 manager is the normal way. :) downlaoding .deb from just diffrent sites.. is rather uncommon.
[13:00] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:00] <Urda> arg wrong tab. My bad ubuntu guys
[13:00] <llutz> paulus68: sure
[13:00] <paulus68> llutz
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  as a test. try making a new user. see if it works for them.. if it does work for the new user. that would show its the old users settings somehow causing an issue
[13:00] <paulus68> llutz: thanks
[13:00] <llutz> paulus68: echo  -n >lastfile         better
[13:01] <lopan> Hey everyone.  I was in here yesterday getting help with a boot issue, where my box boots into BusyBox instead of X / Desktop.  I have detailed my problem at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8702824  if anyone could help that would be super good. :)
[13:01] <paulus68> llutz: ok
[13:01] <storm1> Dr_Willis: that would mean loosing all my settings :(
[13:01] <storm1> Dr_Willis: bad luck, eh?
[13:01] <mazda01> llutz, many people still have the old stand alone dvd player so i'll get dvd-r just in case
[13:01] <llutz> paulus68: every redirection with single > will overwrite existing files
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  no it would not.. it would mean you ADDED a new user to test...  :) you could then perhaps figure out what setting is causing an issue..
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  and remove/fix the setting
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  IF its a user setting..
[13:02] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:02] <storm1> Dr_Willis: ok. i'll give it a try. brb
[13:02] <paulus68> llutz: thanks for the info
[13:02] <llutz> mazda01: i never had that issue, but i'm watching video not very often
[13:03] <Wunderkind> does anyone know of a cli app that's good for streaming radio, ala quodlibet?
[13:04] <Yarcanox> Pici: do you have an idea what to do?
[13:04] <Pici> Yarcanox: I'm looking into it still.
[13:05] <jirib> hello guys
[13:05] <storm1> Dr_Willis: new user works fine
[13:06] <storm1> Dr_Willis: more ideas?
[13:06] <Pici> Yarcanox: Can you try   sudo apt-get install -f python-twisted-core
[13:06] <jirib> i've tried to follow Seamless virtualization document on help.ubuntu.com but i still get two titlebars for Internet Explorer :(
[13:06] <jirib> how to solve that?
[13:07] <Yarcanox> Pici: "python-twisted-core is already the newest version."
[13:07] <chilli0> I have 3 computers with ubuntu but they cant see eachother in network
[13:08] <Yarcanox> followed by the same error when it tries to process the half-installed python2.5 thing
[13:08] <chilli0> I can ping them all
[13:08] <chilli0> Sometimes i can see them
[13:08] <bouma> hello. ive waited it out. im wondering is now a safe time to upgrade (reinstall to another partition) to 9.10 ??
[13:08] <chilli0> I can see a windows computer
[13:08] <storm1> Dr_Willis: which settings may cause that issue? how to filter that out?
[13:09] <Pici> Yarcanox: Right.  How about   sudo dpkg-reconfigure python-twisted-core
[13:09] <bouma> is ext4 ok for the install?? (i wonder if google is using extents)
[13:10] <szymon> ??
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  no idea. I would start with disabling compiz -  it is often a problem
[13:10] <BooRadley> Pici: Yarcanox, maybe some hints here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/291262. This page also suggest the one can set "overwrite-local=1 in /etc/python/debian_config"
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> storm1:   I normally dont worry about too many settings. and i often just clean out all the gnome settings to get back to defaults.
[13:10] <storm1> Dr_Willis: maybe ...
[13:10] <storm1> Dr_Willis: mompl
[13:10] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> I forget how to reset gnome defaults properly
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  its very weird that the startx thing dosent crash also.  I wonder what its doing differntly
[13:12] <Pici> Yarcanox, BooRadley: I was looking at http://www.nesono.com/node/246 which lists a similar problem for a different package, but removing python-twisted-core probably won't work because a lot of packages depend on it.  I need to run to a quick meeting, but I'll be back soon to continue looking into it.
[13:12] <storm1> Dr_Willis: ok. thx. my fault. wrong setting in .profile caused that issue. found out looking in xsession-errors. sorry for the time i've stolen ;)
[13:12] <storm1> bye @ all
[13:13] <Elaina> Hello
[13:13] <michaeldobrovits> surf: do you have external usb burner?
[13:13] <tomlee> when we check the menu item preference.there is a "%u" after the command,what does it mean?
[13:13] <surf> michaeldobrovits, no
[13:14] <oCean_> Yarcanox: have you tried editing /etc/python/debian.config ?
[13:14] <michaeldobrovits> surf: upgraded lately?
[13:15] <surf> michaeldobrovits, no. Fresh Karmic
[13:15] <kacper> klo lubi ubuntu
[13:15] <kacper> okpjv9g6yTpko>lVCG6 PYW P<Fvous<bdxc
[13:15] <Elaina> I have just installed Ubuntu, it boots correctly, but it does not recognize my wireless network. I have a WRT54G. I've searched but can't find any useful info. Any help?
[13:15] <Yarcanox> oCean_: what am I supposed to edit there?
[13:16] <paulus68> exit
[13:16] <kacper> UBuntu 9.10
[13:16] <silviu-alexandru> exit
[13:16] <surf> michaeldobrovits, I read some bug report but I do not have evms installed. That's strange. It seems that uninstalling evms solves ...
[13:16] <tomlee> when we check the menu item preference.there is a "%u" after the command,what does it mean?
[13:17] <tomlee> who knows about it?
[13:17] <oCean_> Yarcanox: the update process cannot "force" python-central to overwrite local files, Adding "overwrite-local=1" in /etc/python/debian.conf should force that. (at least, according to feedback in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/291262)
[13:17] <Oasa> hw to copy 2 strings in C , i want the strings to copy space also
[13:17] <Oasa> please help me
[13:17] <Elaina> Can anyone help with my wireless issue?
[13:17] <michaeldobrovits> sorry surf: cannot help
[13:17] <kacper> Who likes windows
[13:18] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:18] <l3ns> hi everyone
[13:18] <oCean_> kacper: this is ubuntu technical support. You're welcome to discuss other issues in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:18] <ThinkPad> Hello , everyone!
[13:19] <l3ns> i wanted to change the reso of my monitor. i checked xrandr and it says the max is 1600x900, can I still use value 1600x1050?
[13:19] <danny_> anyone good at writing bash shell scripts? if so do you mind helping me with this script I wrote...
[13:19] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: you can try
[13:19] <l3ns> okay..
[13:20] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: if it doesn't work return to default
[13:20] <Elaina> Again, I have just installed Ubuntu 9.10, and it does not recognize my wireless network. My router is a WRT54G Linksys router. Can anyone help?
[13:20] <kacper> Windows Top
[13:21] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, nothing happened after doing this: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1600x1050
[13:22] <michaeldobrovits> does anyone knows why wine hogs my q9400 to 100% while running UT3?
[13:23] <EsatYuce> Can i instal Ubuntu OS into one External Hard Disk?
[13:24] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: why you need this 1680x1050?
[13:24] <lobo_estepario> Hi guys
[13:24] <pat|nG> i accidentally close my panel plasma same as in windows the start button? how can i bring it back?
[13:24] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: is this u'r native
[13:24] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:24] <michaeldobrovits> does anyone knows why wine hogs my q9400 to 100% while running UT3?
[13:24] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, just wanted to have more height for my lcd monitor.
[13:25] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: xorg.conf modeline for 1680x1050 can work
[13:26] <EsatYuce> Can i instal Ubuntu OS into one External Hard Disk?
[13:26] <michaeldobrovits> does anyone knows why wine hogs my q9400 to 100% while running UT3?
[13:26] <DJones> EsatYuce: You can install onto an external drive, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing on external or RAID hard disks specifically the Boot from USB drive
[13:26] <DjCreed> Âñåì ïðèâåò
[13:26] <pat|nG> i accidentally close my panel plasma same as in windows the start button? how can i bring it back?
[13:27] <EsatYuce> DJones, thanks
[13:27] <michaeldobrovits> does anyone knows why wine hogs my q9400 to 100% while running UT3?
[13:27] <DjCreed> Åñòü êòî ïî ðóññêè ðàçãîâàðèâàåò òóò? =)
[13:27] <DJones> !ru | DjCreed
[13:27] <lobo_estepario> I need some help, I'm not able to use numbers or special symbols from numeric keypad. This can be easily fixed using Keyboard preference tool or simply press Shift+Numlock. But i need to disable this feature with command.
[13:28] <lobo_estepario> But i need to disable this feature from console.
[13:28] <DjCreed> =(
[13:28] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, there is no modeline in my xorg.conf file
[13:29] <danny_> anyone with experience writing bash shell scripts?
[13:29] <DjCreed> Ëþäè ïîìîùü íóæíà...
[13:29] <Yarcanox> oCean_: helped, thanks
[13:29] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:29] <Pici> danny_: Have you tried in #bash  ?
[13:30] <chilli0> But its askin for a password. How can make ubuntu not need a password to view shared files ?
[13:30] <iflema> michaeldobrovits no idea.... windows games best played on windows... ubuntu has in the repos nexuiz and other fps games... try nexuiz
[13:31] <DjCreed> Ëþäè ïîìîùü íóæíà...
[13:31] <danny_> ya
[13:31] <Daugha|n> How do I optimize ubuntu for streaming media sites like zshare or novamov??
[13:31] <iflema> danny_ http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[13:31] <oCean_> Yarcanox: good to hear!
[13:31] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: did you tried display options or nvidia xserver propeties in settings?
[13:32] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: ^perferences?
[13:32] <llutz> danny_: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[13:32] <surf> my udevd --daemon is always at 100%!!! Can someone help me out?
[13:32] <okay> hi. is there a download manager for ubuntu that lets you resume downloads?
[13:32] <DjCreed> Ðóññêîÿçû÷íûå ëþäè òóò åñòü? =))
[13:33] <danny_> thanks guys!
[13:34] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: what version of ubuntu u have and what kind of gpu?
[13:34] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, i don't see nvidia properties in preferences
[13:34] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, 8.04
[13:34] <enzotib> okay: wget -c
[13:34] <l3ns> u mean cpu?
[13:34] <AceKing> Does anyone know what would cause my desktop to black? I can't see any icons or the image that I had as a background. I can go into the destop folder and see what is on there. I am running Karmic 32 bit
[13:34] <okay> enzotib: thanks i try it
[13:34] <allguru> how can i record a video in ubunntu ?
[13:35] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: system perfernces screen resolution?
[13:35] <surf> if I run udevadm monitor -e I get tons of messages saying the same thing
[13:35] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, ah gpu, i use nvidia if that's why u meant..
[13:35] <DjCreed> Ëþäè êîòîðûå ðàçãîâàðèâàþò íà ðóññêîì ÿçûêå, ñòóêíèòå â ïðèâàò, ïîìîùü íóæíà...
[13:35] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, yep i could see that but the max reso is only up to 1600x900
[13:35] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:36] <Random832> !ru | DjCreed
[13:36] <Pici> DjCreed: This channel is english only. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat for other language channels.
[13:36] <raggiskula> Hi
[13:36] <DjCreed> =|[::Pici::]|=> thanks
[13:36] <raggiskula> Can anyone recommend a web based media player?
[13:37] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: what kind of gpu do you have?
[13:37] <chilli0> Anyone know how to map a network share ? ( Like on windows )
[13:37] <Elaina> I have just installed Ubuntu. It's a dual-boot, with Windows Vista. Anyway, it's installed and working perfectly... the only problem is that it detects no wireless networks. I got no prompts or anything. When I click the Network Manager I get nothing. My router is a WRT54G Linksys. It works fine with Vista, I've tried resetting it, but to no avail. Can anyone help? I've tried searching Google but I get nothing of much use.
[13:37] <Random832> DjCreed; you should also set your irc program to use UTF-8, not Windows-1251
[13:37] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, nvidia..
[13:38] <ibuclaw> chilli0, what type of network shares?
[13:38] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: did you installed drivers for it?
[13:38] <ibuclaw> Elaina, what type of network card / device do you use?
[13:39] <tom_> Elaina, try to choose to connect to a hidden wireless network. Just enter the name of the network as SSID (e.g 'dlink'), and turn off any password protection on the router
[13:39] <l3ns> yep, currently using nvidia drivers,
[13:39] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: come to private
[13:39] <lobo_estepario> I need some help, I'm not able to use numbers or special symbols from numeric keypad. This can be easily fixed using Keyboard preference tool or simply press Shift+Numlock. But i need to disable this feature with command.
[13:39] <Elaina> Do wireless routers even work with Ubuntu?
[13:40] <l3ns> Elaina, yep sure
[13:40] <jpds> Elaina: Yes, of course.
[13:40] <ibuclaw> Elaina, routers aren't the issue. =)
[13:40] <jpds> Elaina: It sounds like Ubuntu doesn't have the drivers for your wireless chipset.
[13:40] <skunkworks_> elaina: is your wireless card detected?
[13:40] <jpds> Elaina: Try running: sudo lshw -C network
[13:41] <Daugha|n> I have an external HD, if I reformat as ext4, will there be any issues auto-mounting the device?
[13:41] <ibuclaw> Daugha|n, there should be none.
[13:41] <tom_> Daugha|n, not in ubuntu, no
[13:41] <Daugha|n> ibuclaw: Thanks.
[13:41] <Daugha|n> tom_: Thanks as well. =)
[13:42] <iflema> danny_ http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/abs-guide.html.tar.gz
[13:42] <IpSe_DiXiT> Hi, i run intrepid ibex and the update manager gives me an error output when trying to update plus i get a "out-of-date-warning" so i guess i need to upgrade my repos, where can i find the right ones for 8.10?? maybe the ones i have are old links and now they've changed. thanks
[13:44] <ibuclaw> IpSe_DiXiT, what happens when you "Check" for updates?
[13:44] <IpSe_DiXiT> ibuclaw: i told u it fails giving me some repos output
[13:45] <chilli0> ibuclaw, Well I want to do what happens in windows when you map a network drive ( network share acts like a hard drive)
[13:45] <ibuclaw> IpSe_DiXiT, usually, System->Administration->Software Sources
[13:45] <ibuclaw> IpSe_DiXiT, you can choose which server to download updates from.
[13:45] <pshr> hello every one
[13:45] <pshr> i just re installed ubuntu
[13:46] <IpSe_DiXiT> ibuclaw: i no, im asking which one or if there's a weblink on which there are the most recent ones
[13:46] <pshr> but while installation i thought i would convert the ntfs drive to ext4
[13:46] <pshr> and i see that all the data is gone
[13:46] <Barridus> anyone know if firefox 3.6 will be an upgrade to the 3.5 package, or be an entirely new package?
[13:46] <pshr> is there any way to get it back, I desperately need it. Any data recovery tools for linux
[13:46] <virkang> hi
[13:46] <ouyes> hi how to uninstall the wireless driver came with the distribution
[13:46] <ouyes> remember only the wireless
[13:47] <virkang> could someone telle me if there will be a pre-installed desktop backup solution in Lucid ?
[13:47] <ouyes> virkang,  what you mean exactly?
[13:47] <ouyes> virkang,  backup what?
[13:48] <virkang> ouyes - I mean that i heard there will be some backup solution like back in time, or other things, installed by default in Lucid, is that true ?
[13:49] <ibuclaw> IpSe_DiXiT, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[13:49] <ouyes> virkang,  sorry i do not know what are you talking about ,though i am now on Lucid A2
[13:49] <llutz> virkang: ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:49] <indus> virkang, yes
[13:50] <indus> virkang, possible
[13:50] <IpSe_DiXiT> ibuclaw: thanks
[13:50]  * indus googles for a blueprint
[13:50] <ouyes> virkang, by the way ,do you know how to remove the wireless driver came with the distribution?
[13:51] <ibuclaw> chilli0, in Nautilus, I believe you can go to: File->Connect to Server, and enter in any info/credentials there.
[13:51] <ibuclaw> it should appear on your desktop, and via Computer and Network Places screen.
[13:51] <Barridus> anyone know if firefox 3.6 will be an upgrade to the 3.5 package, or be an entirely new package?
[13:52] <ibuclaw> chilli0, I am not too certain of a "reconnect everytime" option, it's been a while since I last used it.
[13:52] <virkang> ouyes, sorry i don't understand your question, what wireless driver ? for what card ? and why do you want to uninstall it ?
[13:52] <coz_> Barridus,  my guess an upgrade  but you can install it now
[13:52] <virkang> indus, Thx
[13:52] <ibuclaw> though you can set permanent share drives in /etc/fstab
[13:52] <virkang> llutz, thx
[13:53] <Barridus> coz_, you mean via the .deb on the firefox page?  i usually like to wait until things hit the official repos
[13:53] <Martitapowa> Hello
[13:53] <coz_> Barridus,  either the deb or a repository.... either way  ...I have used it and 3.5.6pre is fine here
[13:54] <Martitapowa> hay alguien español?
[13:54] <indus> virkang, hi look http://ubuntu10-04.blogspot.com/2009/11/ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx-will-get-bakup.html
[13:54] <Daugha|n> !es | Martitapowa
[13:54] <Martitapowa> ok
[13:55] <Martitapowa> thank
[13:55] <Martitapowa> i have you got nothing no this
[13:55] <bilalakhtar> /
[13:56] <pat|nG> i check all box in window management...including the desktop cube animation desktop cube and all under window management but no effect? why?
[13:56] <kerwin_> hello can i ask for help?
[13:57] <Daugha|n> No.
[13:57] <gcorvala> hello, I have switched my resolution to a bad one and my display is now switched off, how can I change the resolution ?
[13:57] <virkang> indus, thx ! Do you know which of the 2 solutions will be in ?
[13:57] <joegardner> gcorvala: you have to edit the xorg file
[13:58] <DJones> !ask | kerwin_
[13:58] <ibuclaw> pat|nG, is compiz running?
[13:58] <indus> virkang, i think the restore should be but have to wait and see
[13:58] <ibuclaw> pat|nG, Press Alt+F2, and type in: compiz --replace
[13:58] <indus> virkang, i too read that link just now :)
[13:58] <ouyes> virkang,  wifi card ,also the wireless card driver, it came along with your installation, it was pack in the installation cd, when you install ubuntu, you also install the wireless card dirver, get any idea?
[13:59] <ouyes> virkang, i use the aptoncd to backup the package that i downloaded
[13:59] <kerwin_> thanks.. here goes. I have XP. and i want it dual boot with 9.10. now on installation, partition cannot detect any OS. it didnt happen on my previous XP-9.04 setup.  how to deal with this?
[13:59] <JF1976> hi all, im in the middle of a Ubuntu 9.10 remaster using remastersys and after removal of orca and rebooting the automatic login fails and wont allow logons using the account? i have used recovery to check the account and all is fine, but whats the best way to fix this issue.. thanks
[13:59] <gcorvala> joegardner, yes but with karmic, the xorg.conf is not mandatory
[13:59] <gcorvala> so where is the "default" resolution stored ?
[14:00] <ouyes> kerwin_,  open a terminal then sudo update-grub
[14:00] <joegardner> Cybertinus: isnt't it in xorg?
[14:00] <pshr> !datarecovery
[14:00] <ouyes> kerwin_,  see if it can find the xp
[14:00] <joegardner> gcorvala: isnt't it in xorg?
[14:00] <gcorvala> is there another xorg.conf file somewhere ?
[14:00] <JF1976> kerwin_, try using the livecd to check all is fine, and if so you can use qtparted to make changes to your partition
[14:00] <ikonia> gcorvala: there should only be /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:00] <gcorvala> joegardner, not in /etc/X11/
[14:01] <gcorvala> ikonia, not on karmic & lucid
[14:01] <ikonia> gcorvala: yes onkamric and lucid
[14:01] <ikonia> gcorvala: there doesn't have to be a file as xorg is dynamic now, it should only be created for forcing options
[14:01] <ouyes> kerwin_, if it can not you can edit the grub.conf(i forget the name ,but in 8.04 it is menu.lst) mannully add the xp option
[14:02] <gcorvala> ikonia, ok, should I mention every section in this xorg.conf ?
[14:02] <jozi> hey ppl
[14:02] <ikonia> gcorvala: only what you need
[14:02] <gcorvala> or just what I need to configure
[14:02] <ouyes> kerwin_,  any advance?
[14:02] <ikonia> gcorvala: it's all dynamic, just hard code in the sections you need
[14:02] <jozi> any hot gals in here
[14:02] <ouyes> ouyes, ah mate are you in xp now?
[14:02] <pat|nG> ibuclaw: i do pressed alt f2 nothing happns
[14:02] <kerwin_> ouyes: it can't find the XP.  ONLY "use all 80 gig HDD" or manual partitioning
[14:04] <ouyes> kerwin_, try to make the partition youself
[14:05] <ouyes> kerwin_,  use the manual, if you want keep your xp
[14:05] <JF1976> kerwin_, reboot into the xp system and run a disk check making sure that you do a clean shutdown, then have another go with the livecd
[14:05] <virkang> ouyes, for your wireless driver, in the command line, do a lsmod, then search for something that sounds like a wireless driver, and do a modprobe -r <modulename> to remove it from you running desktop
[14:05] <JF1976> hi all, im in the middle of a Ubuntu 9.10 remaster using remastersys and after removal of orca and rebooting the automatic login fails and wont allow logons using the account? i have used recovery to check the account and all is fine, but whats the best way to fix this issue.. thanks
[14:06] <ouyes> virkang,  i want to remove the driver pernamently
[14:06] <ouyes> virkang,  not to unload the mode
[14:06] <Cynix01> i have problems with xbmc 9.11
[14:06] <Cynix01> anyone can help me ?
[14:07] <ouyes> virkang, your way is a solution, also to  make a blacklist is even better, but the driver is still there
[14:07] <ouyes> kerwin_,  how things are going?
[14:08] <kerwin_> i still have my 9.04. but grub does not appear after my reinstallation of XP.
[14:08] <virkang> ok, so remove simply the module name in the /lib/modules directory
[14:08] <JF1976> kerwin_, if you install XP after Ubuntu the XP is going to remove grub, use recover from a livecd
[14:09] <kerwin_> ouyes: im xp now ;D
[14:09] <virkang> ouyes, ok, so remove simply the module name in the /lib/modules directory
[14:09] <virkang> indus, thx for the information
[14:09] <kerwin_> JF1976.. how can i do that?
[14:09] <JF1976> kerwin_, how did you install Ubuntu 9.10 wubi of cd
[14:09] <virkang> ouyes, it should be safer to rename it
[14:10] <kerwin_> i used a USB pen drive
[14:10] <virkang> ouyes, it should be safer to move it somewhere else
[14:10] <troopperi> Cynix01: ask you question?
[14:10] <JF1976> kerwin_, do you still have the pen drive ?
[14:10] <kerwin_> yup!
[14:10] <kerwin_> but only 9.10
[14:10] <ouyes> kerwin_, you can use a command ( i forget) to list all the partitions and mount point, then find out which is the xp located, then go to the menu.lst(the file name in your Lucid is different, try to search under /boot/grub) add the xp option
[14:11] <JF1976> kerwin_, and when you boot it what options does it give? or does it boot into a live session
[14:11] <kerwin_> ouyes: im kinda an idiot regarding commands
[14:11] <kerwin_> hehehe
[14:12] <kerwin_> JF: try ubuntu, install ubuntu, etc etc..
[14:12] <ouyes> virkang,  ok mate thanks for your advice , i want to remove the whole wireless care driver, not to disable it
[14:12] <pat|nG> anyone?
[14:12] <pat|nG> i can't do 3D desktop
[14:12] <ouyes> kerwin_,  ok reboot to ubuntu , il direct you
[14:12] <pat|nG> i'm using kubuntu i joined #kubuntu no one is there hope someone from here can help me out
[14:13] <okay> hi. is there a way to open a download with gwget from a website that requires that i enter the code displayed on the screen to download? when i download without gwget and enter code, it just pops up a download dialogue and the url is the same on the browser.
[14:13] <kerwin_> ok ill get another laptop
[14:13] <ouyes> ouyes,  ah you have two
[14:13] <JF1976> kerwin_, thats fine, we all start somewhere...  all you need to do it fix grub, but thats were im different than you as i would use the command line, so wait one moment and i'll see if a can find you a nice web page with some answers
[14:13] <kerwin_> thanks JF!
[14:14] <virkang> ouyes, if you remove the driver from the /lib/modules directory, it will be gone !
[14:14] <ouyes> virkang, but some files will be still there
[14:14] <JF1976> kerwin_, what you need to do is boot into ubuntu from your pen drive the chroot into the hdd installation followed by a grub-install("hd0") but you will need more info than that!
[14:15] <virkang> ouyes, what files for example ?
[14:16] <ouyes> virkang, frankly speaking,  i do not know i have not tried but i guess so ,
[14:16] <JF1976> kerwin_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[14:16] <ouyes> JF1976,  is that the situation, he installed xp later?
[14:17] <JF1976> kerwin_, thats about as best as i can do.. However if the installation is new, then it may be better for you to install Ubuntu again as that might be easier for you
[14:17] <kerwin_> yup
[14:17] <morrowyn> yellow
[14:17] <JF1976> kerwin_, but the time you take now will assist you later ;) its called learning
[14:17] <kerwin_> the prob is the installer of 9.10 cannot detect any OS
[14:17] <kerwin_> yup hehehe
[14:18] <JF1976> ouyes, yes from the comments made the XP installation has removed the grub loader
[14:18] <cba123> My Firefox isn't working well with Java all of the sudden.  I tried removing and reinstalling java, then java worked and flash didn't, reinstalled flash, and flash worked, but now no java again.  Any ideas?
[14:18] <JF1976> ouyes, im not new but im on guru either ;)
[14:18] <ouyes> JF1976, kerwin_ , always try to manually partition the hdd, and also install xp first
[14:18] <morrowyn> i have a ubuntu server box (9.04) and i want to create a virtual machine server from it, so i can install ms windows server 2008 on it, what vm tool should i use, since all has to be done from the command line
[14:18] <utente> ciao+
[14:18] <Ruge> Hi folks, having a problem with my fresh Ubuntu install
[14:19] <Ruge> I have no control over the audio
[14:19] <scunizi> morrowyn: virtualbox will install using cli and run headless
[14:19] <JF1976> yes XP MUST be first for first timers... XP dont like to share with anything and assumes it should do as it please to your MBR
[14:19] <Ruge> The volume control does nothing (its a constant volume) and inserting headphones speakers does nothing
[14:19] <virkang> ouyes, as far as I know (I'm probably not the man who knows more here), but if you remove the file I told you to remove, adn all his dependencies (listes in lsmod), I think this is it
[14:19] <morrowyn> cool, didn;t know that, thanks
[14:19] <JF1976> im in the middle of a Ubuntu 9.10 remaster using remastersys and after removal of orca and rebooting the automatic login fails and wont allow logons using the account? i have used recovery to check the account and all is fine, but whats the best way to fix this issue.. thanks
[14:20] <troopperi> Ruge: what is your soundcard? And type terminal aplay -L and aplay -l and pastebin it and send link here
[14:20] <kerwin_> yup ive installed XP first, only thing is XP got screwed up.. so i have to reisntall it... into one partition
[14:21] <virkang> ouyes, there is no "clean" way to uninstall a driver like in windows (where you have a remove program for drivers you installed yourself)
[14:21] <scunizi> kerwin_: do you need xp for games or less demanding stuff?
[14:21] <kerwin_> so the partition for 9.04 is still there but inacessible
[14:21] <kerwin_> scinizi: hehehe i just use xp for photoshop
[14:21] <virkang> ouyes, in my opinion, this is something that is missing in Ubuntu, and Linux in general : a driver management framework
[14:22] <arand> kerwin_: so you just want to get the grub menu again for 9.04/XP?
[14:22] <KaffeeJunky123> why dosn't keyboard layout switching work on ubuntu 9.04?
[14:22] <scunizi> kerwin_: why not run it in a vm inside of Ubuntu .. that way you won't have to boot to one.. then boot to the other?
[14:22] <ouyes> kerwin_, if that is the case, you installed xp later, the grub will lost,  you can just insert the live cd(any installation cd will do) and run a shell, or open the livecd's terminal and simply run
[14:22] <kerwin_> arand: yes! if its possible
[14:22] <ouyes> kerwin_, sudo update-grub
[14:22] <chilli0> How con  I mount a network share ?... I tryed a tut on here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba. But i get this error http://pastebin.com/m3a25f8d
[14:22] <arand> kerwin_: which liveCD version?
[14:22] <Ruge> trooperi: here you go - http://pastebin.org/80317
[14:22] <ouyes> virkang,  you see a lot ,
[14:23] <arand> ouyes: that won't write to mbr..
[14:23] <morrowyn> scunizi : http://www.howtoforge.com/vboxheadless-running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-3.0-on-a-headless-ubuntu-9.04-server found this linky :-)
[14:23] <protojay> help! my xfce menu bars at the top and bottom of my desktop have disappeared! how do i get them back?
[14:23] <kerwin_> arand: the one that is present in my hdd is 9.04, but my installer (pen drive) is 9.10
[14:23] <Ruge> fixed it :D
[14:23] <ouyes> arand,  open the shell mount the / of the hdd
[14:24] <scunizi> morrowyn: hooraah! another google user! should be pretty easy to do.. just make sure that you use vbox from their site not our repos
[14:24] <troopperi> Ruge: have you checked sound at system->preferences->sound, does test volumes work?
[14:24] <ouyes> arand, and edit the menu.lst, manually add the xp option after go into the liveCD
[14:24] <Ruge> trooperi: yeah im playing aroudn with the settings, found it
[14:25] <Ruge> troopperi: basically my IBM has internal speakers... some audio is playing thru it... cant stop it for some reason (but headphones okay now)
[14:25] <nastas> hi all
[14:25] <arand> ouyes: kerwin_: But you are able too bot XP now but not 9.04?
[14:25] <ouyes> arand,  i am quite familiar with this thing, i even make a note for that
[14:25] <kerwin_> ouyes: yep!
[14:26] <ouyes> virkang, a driver management framework, this point is good idea for expert  level user
[14:26] <troopperi> Ruge: do you have googled that IBM model and ubuntu sound
[14:26] <protojay>  help! my xfce menu bars at the top and bottom of my desktop have disappeared! how do i get them back?????????
[14:26] <JF1976> kerwin_, boot the system using your pen drive and do what ouyes is saying "drop to a shell" but i think that you would be better off having a read of the link i provided https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[14:26] <Ruge> troopperi: i'll do that in a bit (for now this fix will be fine)
[14:27] <arand> kerwin_: ouyes: So What I wold do: Downgrade the liveCD-version of grub to grub-legacy " sudo aptitude install grub ", then run the grub-legacy shell...
[14:27] <troopperi> Ruge: okay :)
[14:27] <kerwin_> anyway... I think ive got two options. first, reinstate the GRUB so i can choose between XP and my old 9.04. -OR- fresh install of 9.10 (but 9.10 cannot see any os upon installation)
[14:27] <Guest92362> hola
[14:27] <kerwin_> ok thanks guys, im still downloading MIRC in another laptop ;D
[14:27] <soreau> protojay: Is xfce4-panel running?
[14:27] <JF1976> kerwin_, have a good read im sure you can do it!
[14:28] <arand> kerwin_: is 9.10 unable to see any partitions in the installer?
[14:28] <kerwin_> arand: yes,,,unable
[14:28] <ouyes> arand,  just one cd and  one command line then reboot, everything will be done, JF1976  kerwin_  we should stop here leave kerwin_  to try it out
[14:28] <JF1976> kerwin_, and if your worried about data loss use the pen drive and an extra HDD to make a backup of your home directory
[14:28] <protojay> soreau, thx, why woud it stop running ?
[14:29] <arand> kerwin_: are you using any raid setup on this computer?
[14:29] <soreau> protojay: No idea
[14:29] <JF1976> good question!
[14:29] <arand> ouyes: but you intend to instruct installing grub2? Which command?
[14:30] <JF1976> kerwin_, while you still in XP use device manager to view your disks
[14:30] <gcorvala> I have writed a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:30] <gcorvala> but when I do a "startx", it seems that the config is not loaded
[14:30] <kerwin_> arand: Raid?
[14:30] <kerwin_> ok
[14:30] <gcorvala> it keep the "default" configuration set by xorg