[17:00] <sacarlson> shade34321: only thing I see left is the format may be different on redhat with that version,  I've run out of ideas
[17:01] <Praxi> this is a odd question, but is there a way to increase the area that a corner grab uses?
[17:01] <shade34321> sacarlson, it's ok...I actually just realized that my back up of .ssh didn't really make a back up><
[17:01] <Praxi> basically if I try to grab a windows lower right corner to make it bigger, there is very little space there,a nd I always miss it.
[17:01] <shade34321> so working on recovering my keys
[17:01] <sacarlson> shade34321: I guess regen the key on the ubuntu client
[17:02] <shade34321> sacarlson, I have it on our HPC"s so I'm just going to scp it from there since I'm working from home
[17:03] <sacarlson> shade34321: regen the client key and send it to the server
[17:04] <thomasd> bindi: i mostly work with sql through php. can i just use 'mysql -p < dump.sql" to throw it into the local database?
[17:04] <sacarlson> shade34321: I think I forget how it works maybe the server gens the key
[17:04] <bindi> thomasd: mysql -u root -p < dump.sql
[17:04] <thomasd> thanks
[17:04] <shade34321> sacarlson, regardless I'm not there to physicall put the key on the ubuntu machine so I have no way of updating it that way
[17:05] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, what command did you use to reinstall gnome shell?
[17:05] <sacarlson> shade34321: you can run your redhat to login to the ubuntu
[17:05] <ron_paul> i needed to change the ip of this ubuntu server, so i changed it in /etc/network/interfaces, and then restarted /etc/init.d/networking, now when I browse to the ip of the server I get a generic "It works!" page, where before I used to get to a web page GUI of a ticketing system (RT). What could have happened where now it doens't load the web GUI anymore when I browse to the address? Keep in
[17:05] <ron_paul> mind, I only changed the IP address, but I also changed dns to reflect the IP. So before I would browse to 'http://itrequests/' and it would get to the web gui, because I had an itrequests entry in dns to point to the old ip. I changed that entry to reflect the new ip, but now it won't load the page, and instead just goes to a page that says "It works!"
[17:05] <MestreLion> man, that deicon guy was crazy... i demand a 200% raise... :P
[17:06] <Praxi> np, 0*200%=0
[17:06] <thomasd> ron_paul: why are you named after a hobo who likes to hand out fliers?
[17:06] <shaneo> AndyUbuntu, sudo apt-get install gnome*
[17:06] <MestreLion> thank you Praxi... now it is fair :D
[17:07] <Praxi> hehe
[17:07] <AndyUbuntu> ok, thanks
[17:07] <ron_paul> thomasd, its just what my parents named me :p
[17:07] <bluefrog> ron_paul, what is changing dns for you?
[17:07] <thomasd> ron_paul: you know whats the worst first name ever? Newt. It sounds like a irksome middleschool nick name
[17:08] <MestreLion> Praxi: bazhang: just for curiosity, he is now going to use dd for that, on th house ;)
[17:08] <sacarlson> shade34321: best we sleep on it,  maybe with hope you'll come up with something before tomaro,  I know it shouldn't be too hard,  hay and maybe the #ssh channel might still be active
[17:08] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, thanks. it seems there are depoendancy issues now
[17:08] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[17:08] <Praxi> ron_paul, apache?
[17:08] <ron_paul> bluefrog, changed the entry that said itrequests points to <IP_ADDRESS> to the new ip, and then saved the file and restarted bind, and then ping'd the new CNAME
[17:09] <__Alex_> AndyUbuntu: Try: sudo aptitude install gnome-shell
[17:09] <shade34321> sacarlson, I am actually going back in later tonight so I'll work on it then as well...and #ssh isn't...i tried there:/
[17:09] <__Alex_> Aptitude handles dependencies better
[17:09] <Praxi> ron_paul, adjust your virtual hosts maybe?
[17:09] <shade34321> sacarlson, thank you for you help!
[17:09] <MestreLion> bazhang: at least he can't say that Ubuntu has no such tools to write a windows DVD ISO to an USB hdd :P
[17:09] <ron_paul> Praxi, i'm thinking it might have something to do with apache, but i can't think of what. the only thing related would be the conf file, which didn't change, and the vhost settings don't point to any hard coded IP, instead it actually points to the CNA
[17:09] <ron_paul> CNAME
[17:09] <bluefrog> ron_paul, and having dns is nice if the clients can use it. do your clients can resolve computer names to ip?
[17:09] <sacarlson> shade34321: one other thing might take a close look at the server config file to see what algorithum are active
[17:10] <Praxi> ron_paul, hmm is this Request Tracker? does it actually use apache?
[17:10] <ron_paul> bluefrog, i think we only use forward dns
[17:10] <AndyUbuntu> ok, thanks the gnome-shell command worked
[17:10] <ron_paul> Praxi, yeah request tracker uses apache
[17:10] <AndyUbuntu> there was nothing to do though
[17:10] <bluefrog> ron_paul, are we talking of 2 machines or only  one whihc is server and client?
[17:10] <AndyUbuntu> which is a good thing i believe :)
[17:10] <shade34321> ok
[17:10] <Praxi> ron_paul, it has to be virtual hosts type thing, the page you describe is whats in the root of /var/www
[17:11] <bluefrog> ron_paul, check how the vhost are written
[17:11] <Praxi> ron_paul, did you check ports.conf?
[17:11] <ron_paul> i haven't checked ports.conf
[17:11] <ron_paul> i checked the .conf that my vhost is in
[17:11] <ron_paul> i haven't restarted anything besides networking
[17:11] <Praxi> the sites-enabled?
[17:12] <ron_paul> i haven't changed anything in apache, but if it was working before, any reason why it shouldnt be working now that i restarted networking?
[17:12] <Praxi> you should probably check /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/apache2/ports.conf I think is the other one ron_paul
[17:12] <bluefrog> ron_paul, how are your vhost written? with an ip address?
[17:12] <ron_paul> bluefrog, the vhost doesn't have an ip hard coded, it uses the cname 'itrequests'
[17:12] <Praxi> ron_paul, virtual hosts are often written by IP :)
[17:12] <ron_paul> i can paste it to you
[17:12] <ron_paul> let me pastebin it
[17:13] <Praxi> check ports too
[17:13] <Praxi> if you didn't modify apache, it has info in there too
[17:13] <AndyUbuntu> after all that is still says that gnome extension in not supported by shell :)
[17:13] <bluefrog> ron_paul, restart apache
[17:13] <AndyUbuntu> ohh well, i really dont know what is going on
[17:13] <AndyUbuntu> thanks for your help guys
[17:13] <AndyUbuntu> much appreciated
[17:14] <Zal> ron_paul, well, the vhosts has to be listening on a specified IP or set of IPs. It may be listening to * (all IPs), or not.
[17:14] <MadsRC> Can anybody tell me why I have to open port 22 in UFW, for my computer to connect to an server with SSH? From what I know, the connection should use a random port on the local host and then the SSH service port (in this case the standard port 22) on the remote host? But blocking port 22 on the local host blocks the connection?
[17:14] <Praxi> ron_paul, do you have more than one apache host?  would there be any benefit to changing /var/www/index.html to verify your hitting your right server?
[17:14] <Zal> ron_paul, but if your local IP changed, you'd have to at least restart apache in any case
[17:15] <ron_paul> i did the easy 'take a stab in the dark' fix
[17:15] <ron_paul> and restarted apache
[17:15] <Praxi> worked?
[17:15] <ron_paul> and it seeme dto have fixed the problem, but i'm not sure why that fixed it
[17:15] <ron_paul> or what went wrong
[17:15] <Zal> MadsRC, you're right, that makes no sense, unless the ssh server is configured to tunnel back to the client. But I don't know what UFW is.
[17:15] <Praxi> sorry assumption that that was done :)
[17:15] <Praxi> because port 80 was bound to another IP
[17:15] <ron_paul> maybe when apache starts it reads the vhost, and converts whatever is in there to IP, and binds it to IP
[17:15] <ron_paul> ahhh
[17:16] <MadsRC> Zal, UFW is a command line frontend for iptables. And the SSH server is a standard OpenSSH server on a ubuntu server
[17:16] <Praxi> I assume I'm saying that right /looks at all the hardcore apache guys
[17:16] <Zal> MadsRC, ok, yeah, that makes little sense. Are you sure you're not opening OUTBOUND connections to port 22?
[17:16] <AndyUbuntu> slightly frustrating that it is not just one extension but all the gnome-shell extensions that are not working. shaneo
[17:16] <Praxi> thats the first thing I always do, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart hehe  :)
[17:17] <ron_paul> :p
[17:17] <AndyUbuntu> shaneo, where version of gnome-shell are you using?
[17:17] <ron_paul> i was thinking about doing that, but it didn't make logical sense to do it besides "just doing it"
[17:17] <Zal> MadsRC, I'd be happy to look at your raw iptables rule, if you are able to view it.
[17:18] <ron_paul> but i guess with troubleshooting you just try different things sometimes even if you don't have any logical reason why it works, just to rule it out
[17:18] <Praxi> I'm basically a windows guy ron_paul, budget is forcing me to be a linux guy :)  anytime somethings not right, I restart apache to watch for errors, usually critical errors will keep it from starting.
[17:18] <ron_paul> Praxi, me too, im pretty new to linux myself
[17:18] <ron_paul> Praxi, are you a system admin for a small IT shop?
[17:18] <Praxi> hehe ya
[17:18] <MadsRC> Zal, don't have it right now,I'm on a new pc right now... Gotta finish this cisco chapter (taking the CCNA'right now) and then I'll see if I can reproduce the problem with UFW and see if I can get a hold of you :)
[17:19] <Praxi> I think my title is 'systems architect' but I'm not architecting much, just playing maintenance guy
[17:19] <Zal> MadsRC, others ere can probably help as well :-) Good luck on your CCNA!
[17:19] <MadsRC> Zal, thanks :D
[17:19] <Praxi> I at least got them to setup a magento store and working on openerp now on a ubuntu server, saved em 500$ month so far
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> Praxi  no joke: tell that the maintainers of the ubuntu website, there's a 'case study' section
[17:23] <chown_> guys i had a windows installation at one HD and i installed ubuntu at another hd,  i was booting into the ubuntu hd and it was redirecting me to the windows one. But something happened and as i understando i lost the mbr  from the windows hd.
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> !mbr| chown_
[17:23] <mk> how can I install the oracle jdk via my package manager?
[17:24] <Rudolph> mk: if I am right: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[17:24] <Rudolph> but, not sure
[17:24] <chown_> I dont lost the grub
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> chown_  no, but the link helps you with the MBR
[17:25] <mk> it says the package is missing
[17:27] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java mk
[17:27] <jinjorge> mk which version of Ubuntu do you have?
[17:29] <mk> 11.10
[17:30] <xubuntu6> is there a way to see ubuntu terminal commands i execute via on the graphical user interface ?
[17:30] <bazhang> mk ubuntu no longer distributes the sun java due to licensing issues, see the link I gave above
[17:30] <mk> bazhang: thanks, I'll read through it
[17:32] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I just tried the external monitor Fn+F7 trick you taught me on a different Thinkpad T420s and it doesn't work
[17:32] <office_it_guy201> there has to be some driver installed on my other T420s that does switch to external displays
[17:32] <office_it_guy201> any idea what it is?
[17:32] <Praxi> can't say as I do sorry
[17:33] <Praxi> when did you do it, before or after X was started?
[17:33] <mk> am I on 32 bit, or 64?
[17:33] <Praxi> and was the lid closed?
[17:33] <office_it_guy201> after x, 64, 12.04 beta, lid open
[17:33] <office_it_guy201> fresh install
[17:33] <Praxi> try booting up with the lid closed
[17:33] <office_it_guy201> ok running updates and then will try that..
[17:34] <office_it_guy201> it works PERFECTLY on another T420s running 11.10 though
[17:34] <office_it_guy201> but if I fresh install 11.10 on a T420s, it doesn't work at all
[17:34] <SoulRaven> when i use ubuntu one, if i have on a remote computer the same files that are present in cloud folder but early version, when i start the sync, what is the sync priority, from cloud to remote computer, or remote computer to cloud
[17:34] <J2> I need help fast. I have dual booted windows 7 and ubu tu, and have rebooted successfully before. Today, after restarting to install some updates in windows 8, I get the error error: unknown filesystem
[17:35] <J2> Grub rescue>
[17:35] <J2> Whatshould I do in this screen
[17:35] <SoulRaven> and in this maner the new files will be replaced with the older files
[17:36] <bazhang> SoulRaven, try in #ubuntuone yet?
[17:36] <Praxi> mk, run this in a terminal and it will give you way too much info about version      uname -a && cat /etc/*release
[17:37] <mk> i...86 presumably means 32?
[17:37] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, booting with the lid closed doesn't make a difference, still doesn't work.
[17:37] <office_it_guy201> oy
[17:37] <jinjorge> J2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 scroll down to "Command Line and Rescue Mode" section
[17:38] <office_it_guy201> Does anyone have a Thinkpad that works with external monitors via the display port?  ATI or Nvidia?
[17:42] <kronxia> Hello. I would really like to get xserver-xorg-video-qxl_0.0.16-2 installed on oneiric, but it seems it has not been backported. Can anyone recommend a way to do this without breaking the system severely?
[17:42] <J2> jinjorge: It tells me everything is a unknown command
[17:42] <office_it_guy201> no video with the lid closed
[17:42] <office_it_guy201> Nvidia
[17:42] <xubuntu6> anyway i can watch echoed commands that i send via gui?
[17:42] <kronxia> Perhaps the relevant patch has been backported to an earlier version of the qxl driver?
[17:42] <Praxi> oh, did you enable twin view in the nvidia settings office_it_guy201?
[17:43] <office_it_guy201> don't know what that is
[17:43] <office_it_guy201> where are the nvidia settings
[17:43] <kash> hello everyone, i recently attempted an upgrade on oneiric to pangolin and it fubar'd on gconf2 libs, says it doesn't exist anymore.
[17:43] <Praxi> using unity? hit the little finder and type nvidia
[17:43] <kash> a preliminary googling showed that it was removed from ia32-libs, a bug was filed and it was fixed, but even though i have the latest version installed it doesn't want to configure anything
[17:44] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, should be a nvidia x server settings, under that, see if both your monitors show up.  If they don't hit that FN F7 until they do.  Once they do, enable twin view on the new monitor that showed up.
[17:45] <Praxi> hmm is there a pastebin for picutres that doesn't require an account? :)
[17:45] <dmn0Q> i had upgrade to the latest kernel 3.3, what is the effect if remove the older kernel?
[17:46] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, can I ask you to be a little more explicit? I'm not sure where the "nvidia x server settings" are or how to get to them
[17:46] <welshy-Rob> hi, ive somehow managed to mess up my ubuntu 11.10 desktop, for some reason unity has completly disapeared and the title bar only shows file edit view go and bookmarks, however when i log out and log back in using Ubuntu 2d it is fine
[17:46] <erinaceus> office_it_guy201: try starting nvidiasettings in a terminal
[17:46] <Praxi> do you have the launcher bar on the left office_it_guy201?  if so at the top of that is that square looking icon, kind of like a finder, lets you type in it
[17:46] <J2> And THIS is why I keep all media on a separate partition
[17:47] <xubuntu6> me too :)
[17:47] <Praxi> in that thing just type nvidia, and the x settings should be the only thing that comes up
[17:47] <xubuntu6> can you not expand items across screens in twinview or send them to the other screen?
[17:48] <Praxi> ya you can
[17:48] <office_it_guy201> ok see it now, let me give that a shot
[17:48] <office_it_guy201> thanks so much for your help, by the way
[17:48] <William0> anyone here heard of this company-----Stromasys?
[17:48] <office_it_guy201> I was kind of just given this project and my boss doesn't know what the problem is either
[17:48] <Praxi> np, on eyed man in a room full of blind people hehe
[17:48] <xubuntu6> what project exactly were you given?
[17:49] <kash> office_it_guy201: haha, may i suggest not using Unity, but instead XFCE?
[17:49] <xubuntu6> XFCE :)
[17:49] <office_it_guy201> not a choice around here, unfortunately
[17:49] <office_it_guy201> for some reason they want all unity all the time
[17:50] <xubuntu6> you should just use ratpoison
[17:50] <kash> why?
[17:50] <kash> why do idiots insist on making IT-related decisions when they've hired people who are they are supposed to trust to handle these things
[17:50] <Praxi> because they hired you? :)
[17:51] <Praxi> and they watched that video, LIKE A BOSS
[17:51] <kash> lol. my job is excellent, i have complete control. :P
[17:51] <office_it_guy201> it doesn't normally matter, as the end users change whatever they want
[17:51] <office_it_guy201> ok so, here's what happened
[17:51] <kash> office_it_guy201: and end users shouldn't be changing much because that makes your job harder
[17:51] <xubuntu6> heh
[17:52] <office_it_guy201> ha, this I know
[17:52] <kash> forget it, just PXE boot all the systems and use snapshots to revert changes when they're logged out.
[17:52] <office_it_guy201> I opened the nvidia x settings, and it gave me the error "you do not appear to be using the nvidia x driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run 'nvidia-xconfig' as root) and restart the x server
[17:52] <office_it_guy201> so I ran that command as root, and then restarted
[17:52] <kash> office_it_guy201: you might not have the nvidia driver installed or selected to be used.
[17:52] <office_it_guy201> and now my laptop display is 640 x 480, and I can't change it
[17:53] <xubuntu6> that's a sweet res you got there
[17:53] <xubuntu6> i'm jealous
[17:53] <tyler_d> me 2
[17:53] <kash> i like 320x240
[17:53] <xubuntu6> hahaha
[17:53] <kash> super high def
[17:53] <xubuntu6> that's worse than my 4 year old phone
[17:53] <tyler_d> lol
[17:53] <MK`> mk: x86 refers to the intel i386 architecture and later
[17:53] <MK`> which are 32-bit
[17:54] <MK`> the i286 and earlier were 16 bit though
[17:54] <tyler_d> I think you need to run the nvidia config tool again office_it_guy201
[17:54] <office_it_guy201> ok, when I open the tool up again I get the same error as the first time
[17:54] <xubuntu6> office_it_guy201 are you just trying to change the resolution?
[17:54] <tyler_d> office_it_guy201: I gave up on trying the nvidia after my laptop got to 100 degrees while running flash with my nvidia enabled
[17:54] <office_it_guy201> no I'm trying to get external monitors to work on a Thinkpad T420s via the display port
[17:54] <Praxi> his goal is to get the external display working
[17:55] <kash> has anyone here successfully navigated the upgrade from oneiric to pangolin and not had the gconf2 bug?
[17:55] <office_it_guy201> I know it's possible, I have one T420s that works perfectly, but I don't know why or how to get the others to work
[17:55] <xubuntu6> i had problems getting my external to work i had to restart the comp with it connected i first thought
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> kash  type /join #ubuntu+1 for pangolin
[17:55] <xubuntu6> office_it_guy check out xrandr and arandr commands
[17:55] <xubuntu6> arandr helped my external display work
[17:55] <Praxi> question office_it_guy201, when you went into the nvidia x server settings, did it show both your monitors in there?
[17:56] <Praxi> OH
[17:56] <mk> MK`: gotcha. Mine reports as 386, though I think I saw the number 686 too.
[17:56] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, Turn off optimus in the bios?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748475
[17:56] <office_it_guy201> I don't think so, let me get a screenshot
[17:56] <llew21> Command failed. I have checked everything and cant see where Ive gone wrong. Thanks
[17:57] <xubuntu6> check out arandr office_it_guy201
[17:57] <office_it_guy201> screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/w0H3M.png
[17:58] <office_it_guy201> ok use the discrete graphics, got it. I'll try that now....
[17:58] <Praxi> hmm ya thats not what my nvidia X looks like at all
[17:58] <xubuntu6> did you connect the monitor after the comp was on?
[17:58] <office_it_guy201> yep
[17:59] <xubuntu6> what happens when you boot up with connected and on?
[17:59] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors  <--Mine looks similar to that hehe
[17:59] <Praxi> xubuntu6 nothing, had him boot up with lid closed too and again nothing
[17:59] <xubuntu6> wish i could click links xchat over xming doesn't allow it lol but copying isn't too hard :)
[18:00] <office_it_guy201> ok, booting up now, connected and on to external monitor with discrete graphics in the bios
[18:00] <xubuntu6> let's hope that works
[18:00] <office_it_guy201> have normal resolution back....
[18:00] <office_it_guy201> and the Fn+F7 does nothing
[18:00] <xubuntu6> is normal resolution good?
[18:01] <xubuntu6> try install arandr
[18:01] <office_it_guy201> ok
[18:01] <xubuntu6> that really helped me
[18:01] <xubuntu6> don't know why it wouldn't work starting it up with it connected
[18:01] <xubuntu6> is this a dvi or an hdmi monitor? or eeek vga?
[18:01] <office_it_guy201> DVI
[18:02] <office_it_guy201> what is arandr
[18:02] <xubuntu6> nice gui of xrandr
[18:02] <xubuntu6> type xrandr does it tell you if it's even recognizing it as connected?
[18:03] <office_it_guy201> ok so I restarted and it's back to the terrible resolution
[18:03] <office_it_guy201> after installing arandr
[18:03] <xubuntu6> hmmm
[18:04] <office_it_guy201> and Fn+F7 does nothing
[18:04] <xubuntu6> but it is showing as connected?? with bad resolution?
[18:04] <office_it_guy201> I'm really surprised this doesn't work out of the box
[18:04] <office_it_guy201> no only the laptop screen is shown, no external
[18:04] <office_it_guy201> and the laptop now only has 640x480 resolution
[18:04] <fidel> hi - is there a good (as in stable working) gui client ftp alternative for filezilla available - you guys might be willing to recommend?
[18:04] <xubuntu6> see if any of the xrandr commands can help you change the resolution
[18:04] <xubuntu6> man xrandr
[18:05] <fidel> filezilla tends to be pretty unstable right now on 11.10
[18:06] <xubuntu6> i'm not a fan of filezilla anymore you can use midnight commander to connect to ftp's
[18:06] <xubuntu6> oh but that's not gui
[18:06] <fidel> half a gui hehe
[18:06] <xubuntu6> true!
[18:06] <arcaos> filezilla's worked fine for me
[18:07] <xubuntu6> used to use filezilla all the time
[18:07] <office_it_guy201> xubuntu6, that's a good idea but I know it's not the best one. I have a T420s that works and I've never had to use that before
[18:07] <office_it_guy201> plus I'd have to learn how to use it
[18:07] <fidel> according to an op in #filezilla it used outdated version of wxwidget - which i reported already to launchpad
[18:07] <office_it_guy201> and I'm unfortunately on a time crunch, I have just today to figure this out
[18:07] <xubuntu6> you can use this command to look up programs sudo apt-cache search ftp
[18:08] <fidel> xubuntu6: i know apt - i was just wondering if some user experiences might help me filtering the huge output
[18:08] <xubuntu6> really trying to help you as best i can that's all i can really think of xrandr arandr restarting with it connected maybe grandr? doubt it though
[18:08] <xubuntu6> and ya you're right huge output wish i had more experience with other ftp clients and could give you some input
[18:09] <tomvolek> Hi,   I got a new dell hardware with raid, Need to install Ubuntu 11.10 on it.  This box will be put at an isp .  We will have a shared monitor with a AB switch . should I install Ubuntu server version or desktop ?
[18:09] <xubuntu6> winscp maybe they make a linscp ha
[18:10] <xubuntu6> fidel do you use firefox? fireftp worked for me for well a long time ago probably still pretty good
[18:10] <office_it_guy201> OK, I'm going to fresh install 11.10 on the machine and start over
[18:10] <office_it_guy201> see what that does
[18:10] <xubuntu6> good luck!
[18:10] <cyka> hello?
[18:10] <xubuntu6> hello?
[18:10] <fidel> i considered that as well xubuntu6 - while i would prefer some standalone app. gonnatest gftp-gtk now. thanks for the input anyways
[18:11] <xubuntu6> welcome fidel let me know how that is
[18:11] <cyka> i need help! seem to have put a bad repository in and theres no way i can see it letting me take it out
[18:11] <xubuntu6> i did that too i just left it doesn't seem to hurt anything for me at least
[18:11] <cyka> installed synaptic to hopefully peak into repositories, but then it wants to read the bad repository then it closes
[18:11] <xubuntu6> oh that's not good
[18:12] <cyka> but its stopping software updates/software center and synaptic doing ANYTHING
[18:12] <cyka> how fraks name do u actually get rid of it
[18:12] <mengu> could anyone tell me why there is a jam happening when i try to do a record? example here: http://ompldr.org/vZDNqbA/2012-03-21-200834.ogg
[18:12] <cyka> although when looking in software sources it doesn't show,
[18:12] <mengu> from 00:00 to 00:02
[18:12] <roasted> Question - can Cron only handle scheduling at specific times? Is there a way to set up Cron so a job runs at startup, etc?
[18:12] <ghostconn_> is it possible to run the gnome shell & unity in Ubuntu 11:10
[18:13] <xubuntu6> i believe so
[18:13] <fidel> cyka: consider checking the apt-sourcesfiles in cli - in case you are somehow familiar with apt & cli
[18:13] <office_it_guy201> xubuntu6, thanks again for your help
[18:14] <linuxlion> cyka, open the file /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:14] <xubuntu6> maybe this will help http://www.unixmen.com/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command-line-in-ubuntu-restore-oficial-package-using-ppa-purge/
[18:14] <xubuntu6> you are welcome office_it_guy201
[18:16] <llutz> roasted: man 5 crontab , read about @reboot
[18:16] <ghostconn_> dose anyone know how to fix a minor problem for me. on just about every windows and app I open my scroll bars on the right are glitchy
[18:17] <roasted> llutz: yeah, I heard that. But I wasn't sure of reboot works on an actual reboot... or if my system has been off for days and I turn it on. Testing it out now with making a folder on my desktop
[18:17] <xubuntu6> look up remove overlay for scrollbars http://www.matbra.com/en/2011/10/13/remover-ou-desabilitar-a-barra-de-rolagem-overlay-%E2%80%93-ubuntu-11-10/
[18:17] <roasted> llutz: looks like it failed. nice.
[18:17] <llutz> roasted: @reboot will run everytime crond starts
[18:18] <roasted> llutz: it didn't run just now.
[18:18] <roasted> @reboot mkdir /home/jason/Desktop/test
[18:18] <magpii> my windows 7 pc died. i have a bitlocker encrypted external hd. i have the password but this ubuntu machine is not picking up the drive. how can i resolve this?
[18:18] <roasted> llutz: do I still need * * * ?
[18:18] <llutz> roasted: no
[18:18] <xubuntu6> you may have to mount it
[18:18] <GhostConn> format youre hdd lol
[18:19] <GhostConn> even mounting it it more then likely wont recognize the encryption
[18:19] <roasted> llutz: meh. not working.
[18:19] <GhostConn> try tho
[18:19] <malac0da> When I try to use ushare on ubuntu 12.04 i get a segmentation fault (core dumped). Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong?
[18:20] <magpii> ubuntu is not picking up the drive at all
[18:20] <xubuntu6> magpii Bitlocker is a proprietary, closed-source drive encryption system only supported by Windows. You'll have to remove Bitlocker encryption if you want to access your Windows partitions from Linux.
[18:20] <GhostConn> the filesystem on the drive is more then likely corrupt
[18:20] <Xabster> Eclipse keeps telling me that some SVN module can't perform its task because blahblah.java is not a working copy... it's got to do with subclipse plugin... anyone know of a fix? I'm running 3.7.2 on Ubuntu
[18:21] <magpii> how do i remove the encryption? do i need to attach it to a windows system first/?
[18:21] <xubuntu6> once decrypted use trucerypt for linux
[18:21] <magpii> the drive has a trucrypt partition on it too
[18:21] <Praxi> lol
[18:21] <xubuntu6> hmm
[18:21] <Praxi> double encryption = bad
[18:22] <sepoki> which extension is makefile ?
[18:22] <xubuntu6> down voteBitlocker is a proprietary, closed-source drive encryption system only supported by Windows. You'll have to remove Bitlocker encryption if you want to access your Windows partitions from Linux.See http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/What-is-the-difference-between-disabling-BitLocker-Drive-Encryption-and-decrypting-the-volume ...for instructions on doing so. It would be advisable to have a backup of your data
[18:22] <xubuntu6>  completed first.
[18:22] <xubuntu6> try that
[18:22] <GhostConn> just copy yo're data onto another hdd adn reformatt
[18:22] <DaisyTheCow> What's the best audio preview software for Nautilus?  I've got Gloobus installed but instead of playing a single file and stopping it plays all files in the folder on after the other
[18:22] <GhostConn> simple
[18:22] <xubuntu6> audio preview?
[18:23] <DaisyTheCow> Hovering over an audio file used to play it without opening an app.  This is no longer the case
[18:23] <sepoki> which extension is makefile ? cause there is .in . am .cvs but i cant make it
[18:23] <xubuntu6> wow didn't know that that's pretty cool you can hover and have it play i guess i'm just too use to xubuntu
[18:23] <GhostConn> bitlocker encryption is not that safe to begin with I would never reccomend that to anyone.. there are to many decryption out there for that software. You can decrypt a 100 character alphanumerical password in less then 5min lol
[18:24] <xubuntu6> wowww
[18:24] <xubuntu6> guess it's time to make my password 200 characters
[18:24] <xubuntu6> ugh
[18:24] <vlt> xubuntu6: Well, it can be very annoying if you accidentally move your mouse somewhere and suddenly someone shouts at you.
[18:24] <xubuntu6> haha that's very true vit
[18:25] <xubuntu6> especially if your volume was up high
[18:25] <KBentley57> hey guys, anyone familiar with distcc?
[18:25] <xubuntu6> or connected to your yamaha vsx-21txh with def tech speakers lol
[18:26] <Router> I put ubuntu on a usb and i boot it up and it worked fine then i shut down and when i try to use it again it doesnt load just stays on the page that says ubuntu with 5 dots ??? help please
[18:26] <vlt> xubuntu6: Until last week I had the problem that everytime I logged in my volume was set to 100%. Even after disabling the Ubuntu jingle (played at -0dB! before) I sometimes moved the mouse too close to an audio file :O
[18:27] <GhostConn> it wouldnt matter bitlocker stores you're password lol... ok its just like how a keygen works lol even antivirus... the software itself is loaded with "you're password" so when you type it in it can tell you if you're wrong or right lol now theres ways to get into the software to view that password. Picture antivirus with a validation key/serial and yet you can get a keygen to get a free serial/....now how safe do you rea
[18:27] <GhostConn> lly think a software is when it comes with a keygen
[18:27] <GhostConn> LMAO
[18:27] <Dr4g> Installing mongodb apt-get install mongodb, afterwards the mongo or mongod binary isn't available.
[18:27] <Dr4g> Thoughts ?
[18:28] <vlt> Btw, I solved the audio volume at 100% issue by putting a script to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ that sets audio volume to 12%.
[18:29] <xubuntu6> vlt sets that at startup to 12%?
[18:30] <vlt> xubuntu6: The script sets audio volume to 12%, yes.
[18:30] <GhostConn> is it safe to have a ext4 partition & a 1.8tb partition containg all mkv? this is all on a 2tb hitachi
[18:30] <GhostConn> my drive is brand new yet making add noises
[18:31] <vlt> xubuntu6: 12% is fine for nearly anything, so you can imagine how much my neighbours hated me after I upgraded to 11.10 …
[18:31] <GhostConn> i have run numerous hdd software  & they all indicate the drive is healthy i only have 200+ boots
[18:31] <vlt> GhostConn: Safe?
[18:32] <wiiguy> hello currently i have ubuntu server installed in oracle vm virtualbox, but it wont connect to the internet, i can connect from the pc to teh Vm though
[18:33] <wiiguy> how can i fix this ?
[18:33] <vlt> wiiguy: Do you connect via ssh?
[18:33] <wiiguy> trough outty yes
[18:33] <wiiguy> putty*
[18:33] <tyler_d> wiiguy: is it bridged or natted
[18:33] <linuxlion> wiiguy: check network card settings for the vm?
[18:33] <xubuntu6> you could try changing the settings of the virtualbox to enable bridged connection
[18:33] <GhostConn> hard to explaine? Im wondering if having two separate partitions on the drive is causing the noise? I had the drive originally formatted to a 2tb partition with all my mkv movies on there. however I decided to install ubuntu 11:10 and create another partiton.  Thats what I was worried about. As its not installing correctly through the repo will it be ok through source
[18:38] <linuxlion> wiiguy: you have more than one network card/wireless card in the host machine?
[18:38] <AndyUbuntu> gimp works perfectly well at the moment
[18:38] <GhostConn> it's easy to bridge a connection if you're running default windows
[18:38] <wiiguy> hmm good question
[18:39] <wiiguy> lets see
[18:39] <AndyUbuntu> I would just like stuff like single window mode
[18:39] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, have you tried to purge it via synaptic, and reinstall?
[18:39] <c_smith> rob```, no need for rants.
[18:39] <wiiguy> i have 2 cards
[18:39] <AndyUbuntu> I have not tried this either tbh
[18:39] <wiiguy> one on the motherboard
[18:39] <wiiguy> and a sepperated one
[18:39] <AndyUbuntu> think i shal give this a go first
[18:40] <gaussblurinc> is there any way to make widget under lxde?
[18:40] <wiiguy> but im sure im using the right one
[18:40] <linuxlion> wiiguy: in network settings for vm, make sure to select the card that you are using for host machine
[18:40] <wiiguy> i am using the right one :p
[18:40] <linuxlion> wiiguy: what kind of info does ifconfig give you?
[18:41] <wiiguy> let em boot for a sec again
[18:41] <linuxlion> wiiguy: are you getting same subnet/ip range as your host machine?
[18:41] <wiiguy> 1 sec
[18:41] <linuxlion> kk
[18:42] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57, this is generally what i receive when i try to install http://pastebin.com/zqHxk9f2
[18:42] <AndyUbuntu> i have just tried it through the repo there
[18:43] <wiiguy> wth now im not even getting a ip :/
[18:43] <GhostConn> dose anyone else have noise problems with their 2tb wd green hdd?
[18:43] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, that happens now, or after you purged the old install
[18:43] <linuxlion> hmm
[18:43] <linuxlion> oen sec
[18:44] <linuxlion> one*
[18:44] <KBentley57> GhostConn, ive had all kinds of trouble with those, they are garbage
[18:44] <wiiguy> k
[18:44] <GhostConn> i can tell i just bought it !!
[18:44] <AndyUbuntu> that was after i purged all of the gimp stuff
[18:44] <wiiguy> it now says "braodcast multicast" ...
[18:44] <GhostConn> less then 200+ boots and scratching noise already
[18:44] <GhostConn> western digital is garbage nothign but problems
[18:44] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, from the command line run "sudo apt-get purge gimp" and see if it cleans up anything else
[18:45] <KBentley57> GhostConn, i went through about 3 1-TB green drives
[18:45] <AndyUbuntu> thats the command i used a moment ago
[18:45] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, ok, and now you're trying to install gimp from cmd line, synaptic, or software center?
[18:46] <GhostConn> Ouch!! well im hopeing that it will last a while anyway it's just so annoing!!!... like you can barely hear it BUT I CAN!!! lol my gf tells me im crazy
[18:46] <AndyUbuntu> through synaptic at the moent
[18:46] <linuxlion> wiiguy: what is the host's OS?
[18:46] <nemik> hello, i cannot get my asus x101ch to boot from an Ubuntu USK disk. can anyone help?
[18:46] <AndyUbuntu> moment*
[18:46] <BlakJak> here's one... so I had to fiddle with my lvm mount sizes  and shrink a partition... now the superblock and the fat? disagree over how big the disk should be and the machine demanded a manual fsck on reboot.. how do I adjust this without toasting the partition?
[18:46] <GhostConn> it's like a small scratching sound especually when i copy mkv over in 100+GB files
[18:46] <nemik> i get the menu to boot from USB, but it just seems to skip it and go straight to the windows
[18:46] <GhostConn> plus it's on 5400rpm drive
[18:47] <GhostConn> to think I thought of the enviorment when purchasing
[18:47] <pizza-dude> hmm
[18:48] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, ok, and now you're trying to install gimp from cmd line, synaptic, or software center?
[18:48] <wiiguy1> seems the vm broke my internet connection
[18:48] <nemik> does Asus actively prevent USB booting somehow?
[18:48] <linuxlion> wiiguy: what is your host and guest OS?
[18:49] <wiiguy1> host : windows 7 ultimate guest : ubuntu server  10.04.04
[18:49] <linuxlion> ahh... what services did you install when installing ubuntu server
[18:50] <wiiguy1> only ssh
[18:50] <linuxlion> hmm.. can try manually assigning card information
[18:51] <linuxlion> i guess the card shows up as eth0?
[18:51] <wiiguy1> yes
[18:51] <GhostConn> I have been reading allot from the wd website and they claim that their green series drives can produce up to 29-32db when in idle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:51] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57, this is generally what i receive when i try to install http://pastebin.com/zqHxk9f2
[18:51] <wiiguy1> but i will give it a shot
[18:51] <AndyUbuntu> KBentley57, sorry was installing it through software centre
[18:52] <GhostConn> this is 100% normal due to the low rpm of the drive... the drive idles at just under 2000rpm creating the platter to wobble
[18:52] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, have you tried installing those dependencies?
[18:52] <wiiguy1> brb
[18:53] <AndyUbuntu> i need to install them speratly but unable to find them
[18:53] <AndyUbuntu> the packages just are not those versions
[18:53] <AndyUbuntu> some of the,
[18:53] <AndyUbuntu> them*
[18:54] <Fed> I install ubuntu on a harddrive that i took out of my netbook. Has this happened to anyone else?
[18:54] <K-4U> Okay.. i have an AVI file and want to burn this to a dvd.. also, i want to do this on a headless system
[18:54] <Fed> and it stopped spinning
[18:54] <AndyUbuntu> really sorry i must go in a sec somethin
[18:54] <nibbler_> Fed, i'd say thats not associated to the ubuntu install
[18:54] <AndyUbuntu> thanks for your assistance
[18:55] <GhostConn> anyone have a review on the hitachi deskstar 4tb..
[18:55] <GhostConn> worth it ?
[18:55] <Fed> is it possible that i fried the drive when i went to put it back into the netbook?
[18:55] <BrianH> Hey guys
[18:55] <mike_> mopar
[18:55] <GhostConn> the only thing the drive will be holding is mkv
[18:56] <BrianH> Anyone know why my Razer Naga elite causes a TON of lag on my system?
[18:56] <bartek> Hi there. If I have a machine on Intrepid (don't ask), is there a right way to get the latest versions of Apache from launchpad onto it?
[18:56] <nischayn22> hello I am having problem installing phpunit with ubuntu 12.04
[18:56] <BrianH> I thought it was the graphics drivers at first, because Windows would really lag when dragging them ... Then I found a comment from someone saying it was because of their mouse.
[18:57] <BrianH> So I tested it, and it works.  When I put a different mouse on the system, the lag is gone.
[18:57] <BrianH> windows as in application windows, not M$
[18:58] <GhostConn> you're mouse is a high end gaming mouse.. it more then likely came with a driver not just plug and play
[18:58] <GhostConn> ?
[18:58] <BrianH> Yes, it's the Razer Naga Elite.
[18:58] <GhostConn> unsupported sorry
[18:59] <GhostConn> i had so many problems with my g15 series 3 keyboard
[18:59] <GhostConn> disgusting lol
[18:59] <BrianH> Why would it be unsupported?  I'm only using it for point and click.  I'm not even using the built-in numpad
[19:00] <GhostConn> because it's not built on a plug and play interface it is but it's not...that mouse has a particular driver to embed calibration for better performance
[19:00] <GhostConn> thats why its so laggy
[19:00] <GhostConn> uncalibrated
[19:00] <GhostConn> hence why its a gaming mouse
[19:00] <SegF4ult> hey, short question
[19:01] <GhostConn> ?
[19:01] <SegF4ult> on Ubuntu 11.10, with Unity, how do I disable the sleep mode button
[19:01] <SegF4ult> ?
[19:01] <SegF4ult> I find myself hitting it way too often by accident
[19:01] <BrianH> SegF4ult, download MyUnity
[19:01] <BrianH> I believe MyUnity has an option to disable all that.
[19:02] <GhostConn> go under power managment setting and choose do nothign
[19:02] <wiiguy> meh im just gona install vmware again, works much better :/
[19:02] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: it doesn't ahve options for the buttons there, it seems
[19:02] <GhostConn> hmm,....
[19:03] <GhostConn> Hit Alt+F2 and type gconf-editor. Then go to apps -> gnome-power-manager -> buttons. Edit the value for the suspend button and type "nothing". The sleep key should stop working now.
[19:03] <GhostConn> i hope that helps
[19:04] <sepoki> can anyone here help me to install KTECHLAB ?
[19:04] <sepoki> there isnt package in repository
[19:05] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: there's no gnome-power-manager entry there either ^^
[19:06] <bartek> Hi there. If I have a machine on Intrepid (don't ask), is there a right way to get the latest versions of Apache from launchpad onto it, without doing a full distro upgrade?
[19:07] <tomvolek> HI I just installed Ubuntu 11.10  and I dont see Synaptic packet manager, where can I find it
[19:07] <zykotick9> bartek: your system is unsupported - see "/msg ubottu eol" for details on upgrading
[19:08] <zykotick9> tomvolek: use apt-get or U.S.C. to install it (it's been removed)
[19:08] <GhostConn> SegF4ult: bare with me im googleing the problem for you I have never done this before
[19:09] <tomvolek> zykotick9  do you know the apt apackage name ?
[19:09] <zykotick9> !info synaptic
[19:09] <zykotick9> tomvolek: "sudo apt-get install synaptic" should work
[19:09] <tomvolek> tx
[19:10] <ubuntu> hi all sorry for the name im running live, Q). i have a .exe archive that im trying to extract but it needs a password so archive manager wont extract, any clues?
[19:10] <GhostConn> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/07/from-windows-to-ubuntu-turn-off-sleep-mode/
[19:10] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: I'm googling as well
[19:10] <GhostConn> follow those instruction
[19:10] <GhostConn> SegF4ult   http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/07/from-windows-to-ubuntu-turn-off-sleep-mode/
[19:11] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: I already have those disabled, but that doesn't stop XF86Sleep from doing what it is bound to at the moment
[19:11] <GhostConn> thats is so weird!
[19:12] <GhostConn> do you have any third party apps installed that may have control over that
[19:12] <GhostConn> advance system settings ect...
[19:12] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: no third party apps whatsoever
[19:12] <GhostConn> ... hmm
[19:12] <moonshadow> Hello
[19:12] <GhostConn> well as you can see im the only one helping you lol give me a few more lol
[19:13] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: it's okay ^^
[19:13] <moonshadow> I'm testing Ubuntu Precise Beta 1, and can't use sudo because it appears to freeze.
[19:13] <Pici> moonshadow : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[19:14] <moonshadow> Pici, ah, I didn't know that exists, thanks
[19:14] <GhostConn> haha try this
[19:14] <GhostConn> http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/disable-suspend-and-hibernate-ubuntu/
[19:14] <GhostConn> i beleive that will work it did on my desktop lopl
[19:15] <GhostConn> let me know
[19:15] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: nope, saw that already
[19:16] <alo21> Are there any ubuntu certificated courses?
[19:17] <GhostConn> well then ... lol
[19:18] <lucusoid> Hi everyone... Running ubuntu on usb stick and I am very impressed! It is very portable and runs on every computer I have tried so far. Searching for a way to install Nvidia drivers. Is there a possibility to create an rcS script to automatically set the right glx alternative once an nvidia card is detected at boot?
[19:18] <monohedron_> does anybody know a simple and quick way of converting MP4 files into AVI?
[19:18] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+question/168574
[19:18] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: that should work
[19:18] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: force a rebind through xmodmap
[19:18] <GhostConn> thats so funnnny
[19:18] <GhostConn> i just copied that link from ym url for u
[19:19] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: there's something in the comments there
[19:20] <GhostConn> I already have it disabled with my desktop
[19:20] <GhostConn> terminal command worked for me
[19:20] <SegF4ult> GhostConn: now I need to know how to load the xmodmap configuration on system bootup
[19:21] <GhostConn> one problem im having if someone can help me out is black boot screens/splash screens... I have even installed splash screen manager and tried numerous of the extra splash screens however they work when i log out but not during boot up
[19:22] <state> Hi! I'm running 11.1 on an EC2 instance and just noticed that my boot.log has grown to be enormous. I was thinking of using log rotate to deal with it: but found some cautionary tales about that. I'm wondering: what's the best way to deal with boot.log? Can I just put the tail of it in a new file? It doesn't appear to be flooding because of any constant errors.
[19:23] <OU818> !list
[19:24] <oj_> can you tell me the correct usage of the following command sudo apt-install git
[19:24] <oj_> I get this error: sudo: apt-install: command not found
[19:24] <state> apt-get install
[19:24] <netzapper> we're about to build a datacenter. It needs to be in place by first week of April. Normally, I'd just stick 10.04LTS on the boxes and call it a day. But 12.04LTS comes out in a month. Clearly, I can't wait until then to complete the project... but, am I better installing 11.x and updating to 12.04 as it becomes available, or installing 10.04LTS and upgrading when 12.04 is out?
[19:24] <SegF4ult> oj_: sudo apt-get install git
[19:24] <oj_> thank you very much :)
[19:25] <SegF4ult> oj_: you're welcome
[19:25] <alo21> can someone help me?
[19:26] <netzapper> alo21: no, you are all alone.
[19:26] <SegF4ult> alo21: I can try
[19:26] <alo21> netzapper: ahaha... you are so funny :)
[19:26] <SegF4ult> alo21: what seems to be wrong?
[19:27] <oj_> what is the usage of git?
[19:27] <alo21> SegF4ult: I would like to be expert using ubuntu/linux
[19:27] <SegF4ult> oj_: hold on a sec
[19:27] <office_it_guy201> Hello again Ubuntu channel, I have a difficult external monitor issue, and could really use your help
[19:27] <oj_> ok
[19:27] <alo21> SegF4ult: so I am wondering if there is some ubuntu certificste course
[19:27] <SegF4ult> oj_: http://zrusin.blogspot.com/2007/09/git-cheat-sheet.html there you go
[19:27] <netzapper> oj_: the usage of 'git' is something that takes up an entire manual. http://www.vogella.de/articles/Git/article.html
[19:28] <oj_> SegF4ult, netzapper: Thank you very much
[19:28] <SegF4ult> alo21: being an expert on ubuntu/linux takes a lot of time, and the way you do things is just by doing things
[19:28] <office_it_guy201> Here's the situation: I have a bunch of Thinkpad T420s machines. Some of them recognize external monitors (connected via Displayport) immediately after installation, with the BIOS set to default settings.
[19:28] <office_it_guy201> Others of the same model (T420s), I simply cannot figure out how to make them work
[19:28] <SegF4ult> oj_: that's a basic, and netzapper has it right, you should try a proper manual as well
[19:28] <office_it_guy201> I've tried installing nvidia drivers, editing the bios to discrete graphics, and everything that other people mentioned
[19:29] <office_it_guy201> The only difference between these T420s models that I can tell is the working one is an i5 while the non-working ones are i7
[19:30] <alo21> SegF4ult: ok... and what book do you suggest?
[19:30] <office_it_guy201> does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:30] <SegF4ult> alo21: well, there's plenty of git manuals around
[19:31] <SegF4ult> alo21: I liked this one: http://git-scm.com/documentation
[19:32] <netzapper> no advice from anybody on whether to install a bunch of new servers with 10.04LTS or 11.10, given the eminent coming of 12.04LTS?
[19:33] <netzapper> ...not even, like, an unfounded opinion based only on personal prejudice and bias?
[19:33] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey guys, im trying to change the default "ubuntu" purple boot image on startup. any idea how to change it?
[19:33] <Praxi> well in that case, why woudn't you do 11.10
[19:34] <Praxi> T3CHKOMMIE, ubuntu tweak
[19:34] <Praxi> its in the repositories
[19:34] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, did you hear my update on the monitor thing? I'd like your opinion on what's going on
[19:34] <T3CHKOMMIE> Praxi, awesome ill give it a shot, is it a pretty simple gui?
[19:34] <Praxi> ya easy enough I could understand it T3CHKOMMIE
[19:34] <Praxi> I didn't, let me scroll office_it_guy201
[19:34] <office_it_guy201> thank you
[19:35] <edelweize> can you please help me?
[19:35] <office_it_guy201> long story short is everything works perfect out of the box on an i5 T420s and not at all on an i7 T420s
[19:35] <Praxi> how many are working?
[19:35] <Praxi> more than 1?
[19:35] <T3CHKOMMIE> Praxi, I cant seem to find it in the repos. apt-get install ubuntu-tweal?
[19:35] <GhostConn> can someone help me resolve my black splash screen with 11:10... i have even tried splash screen manager with numerous diferent splash screens however they only work when i shutdown not boot up
[19:35] <T3CHKOMMIE> Praxi, I cant seem to find it in the repos. apt-get install ubuntu-tweak* sorry
[19:35] <GhostConn> i get a black screen for a bout 20sec during boot
[19:35] <Praxi> tweak, hang on T3CHKOMMIE let me go look
[19:36] <magma> it is possible to set vars inside vars in /etc/environment ?
[19:36] <Praxi> oh wait, not in the repositories T3CHKOMMIE, http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[19:36] <magma> like doing PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin
[19:37] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, do ALL of the i5's work?
[19:37] <office_it_guy201> let me see if I have another one to test on
[19:37] <office_it_guy201> here's what I did:
[19:37] <Praxi> my first guess would be bios update
[19:37] <T3CHKOMMIE> Praxi, awsome! thanks for the link!
[19:37] <office_it_guy201> I had a working i5 T420s, all external monitors worked without issue
[19:38] <office_it_guy201> I took the drive out of the i7 T420s (the one that I had installed and re-installed and changed drivers, etc), and put it in the i5 T420s
[19:38] <office_it_guy201> then erased everything and installed 11.10 again
[19:38] <office_it_guy201> and poof, no problem whatsoever, everything works
[19:39] <klync> in unity, what is alt-backtick supposed to do? bc i press it out of habit, it doesn't do what i expect, and what my screen does scares me off from experimenting
[19:39] <office_it_guy201> I have no remaining i5 machines, just a stack of i7s
[19:39] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, but the drive DIDNT work until you erased it? or did you try it before erasing?
[19:39] <office_it_guy201> let me think about that...
[19:39] <Praxi> I would still vote for a i7 bios update though office_it_guy201 :)
[19:40] <office_it_guy201> yesterday, I took the SDD out of the i5 (which worked perfectly) and put it in the i7
[19:40] <office_it_guy201> it would not connect to monitors
[19:40] <office_it_guy201> then I put it back in the i5, and it worked fine
[19:40] <office_it_guy201> bios update, eh? how do I do that
[19:40] <Praxi> what about a i7 drive in the i5?
[19:40] <Praxi> WITHOUT erasing it first?
[19:41] <Jay_Man> office_it-guy201:  I just caught the tail end of your conversation about the T420s... that's what I'm on now, what's the problem?
[19:41] <office_it_guy201> the problem is that my i7 T420s models do not connect to external monitors via the display port, regardless of what I try
[19:41] <office_it_guy201> while my i5 T420s connects no problem with a fresh install
[19:42] <Jay_Man> Ahh, sorry - I'm i5, no i7.  That's messed up though...
[19:42] <sazawal> I am not able to install pulseaudio-module-jack in ubuntu 10.10
[19:42] <sazawal> help!!
[19:42] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/research/hints-or-tips/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-77167  check that page for bios updates, looks like the latest is 1.37, see what your i7's are running bios wise
[19:43] <Jay_Man> Did you try it in 12.04 yet?  Does it do the same thing?  No idea why the OS would differ, unless the external port isn't the same hardware.
[19:43] <Madkiss> hi there. I installed a ubuntu system via debootstrap and when booting into it, I don't get a tty. Instead, I see something that looks like the system is trying to start X11, but I am left with a unusable system after that, because the system hangs
[19:43] <Praxi> !ask | edelweize
[19:43] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I'm going to install 11.10 on a drive in the i7, then move it to the i5 and see what happens
[19:43] <Praxi> my guess would be that it works
[19:43] <office_it_guy201> will update in a few
[19:43] <office_it_guy201> that will imply it's a bios thing, right?
[19:43] <klync> Madkiss: did you try ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[19:43] <Jay_Man> Bios, or the hardware differs slightly in the i7 model.
[19:43] <Praxi> that would imply hardware, which probably means bios :)
[19:44] <Jay_Man> Its not unheard of.
[19:44] <klync> Madkiss: also, try toggling numlock; that's a great way to tell if the machine is truly hung
[19:44] <magma> it is possible to set vars inside vars in /etc/environment ?
[19:45] <magma> it is possible to set vars inside vars in /etc/environment ? like PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin
[19:45] <noaXess> hey all
[19:45] <Madkiss> klync: let's see
[19:45] <DominikSt> hi
[19:45] <kesi> Do you have to install Java WebStart separately from JRE and JDK on 11.10? Since re-install, I can't launch jnlp files
[19:45] <edelweize> do you know how to overcome fake process
[19:45] <noaXess> how do i adjust font size in thunderbird/firefox on unity?
[19:46] <noaXess> and how to disable join/part messages in empathy ;)
[19:46] <Praxi_Lunch> edelweize, you mean like a process that is hung?
[19:46] <noaXess> and how to move the notification bubble to another place ..
[19:46] <Madkiss> klync: ctrl-alt-f1 has no effect, and this netbook doesn't have numlock ;)
[19:46] <Fyodorovna> noaXess, if your talking about the font size in the actual email it is in edit-preferences
[19:47] <noaXess> Fyodorovna: you mean in thunderbird?
[19:47] <Praxi_Lunch> edelweize, gotta run, if you are talking hung process, system monitor will help you 'kill' them http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/5-system-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu/.  Or lookup the kill command itself
[19:47] <edelweize> I do not understand. This is only a college assignment from my lecturer
[19:48] <Fyodorovna> noaXess, you asked about fonts in Thunderbird specifically.
[19:48] <klync> Madkiss: but you can see grub load when it boots, right? try passing the kernel param to only enter runlevel 1
[19:48] <noaXess> Fyodorovna: the look and feel..
[19:48] <noaXess> of the app itself
[19:49] <Madkiss> klync: i can see grub, yes. I can also see many kernel messages
[19:49] <edelweize> this as a process running on the system copies. / backdoor, and when the check ps-ax into "usr / sbin / httpd"
[19:51] <Fyodorovna> noaXess, the overall font is attached to the system font.
[19:51] <s0krates> Hello I was hoping I could get help for a unity error I made. I installed compiz and ran the command 'compiz --replace' and now unity is broken. Any ideas?
[19:51] <noaXess> aha
[19:51] <noaXess> Fyodorovna: ok.. test that
[19:52] <skiphuffman> Actually, trying it now
[19:52] <Xabster> I'd like some sort of launcher but I can't remember the name of the one I liked
[19:53] <tyler_d> Xabster: rocket?
[19:53] <Xabster> no
[19:53] <tyler_d> Xabster: grenade
[19:53] <Xabster> it's not a "bar"
[19:53] <Xabster> it's a search box
[19:53] <Xabster> where i can write "Sk" and skype shows up
[19:53] <Xabster> and i click enter
[19:53] <guest198394> Hi Can anyone read this?
[19:53] <Xabster> or C for chrome, E for eclipse
[19:53] <tyler_d> guest198394: no
[19:54] <tyler_d> Xabster: have you tried the default one you can add?
[19:54] <guest198394> ok good.. I changed my nick I guess now it could be read
[19:54] <guest198394> I was hoping to get help with a unity error..
[19:54] <Xabster> tyler_d, nope, what's it called?
[19:54] <guest198394> I installed compiz and ran the command 'compiz --replace'
[19:54] <edelweize> do you know how to overcome "fake process"?
[19:54] <edelweize> I do not understand. This is only a college assignment from my lecturer
[19:54] <guest198394> ever since then when I log in the window manager doesn't even start up
[19:54] <edelweize> this as a process running on the system copies. / backdoor, and when the check ps-ax into "usr / sbin / httpd"
[19:55] <edelweize> ??
[19:55] <Jordan_U> s0enke: We could read your messages with your previous nick as well. If nobody has an answer to your question though, then nobody will answer.
[19:55] <guest198394> I'm wondering, is there anything I could do to revert that?
[19:55] <tyler_d> Xabster: I am pretty sure you can add to the icons... I appologize though I don't know the name
[19:55] <guest198394> That's fine, I just wasn't sure it could be read.
[19:55] <Xabster> aight, no problem, tyler_d, i'll keep looking
[19:55] <Xabster> i used to have it on super+space
[19:56] <Xabster> feel so crippled without it
[19:58] <Xabster> tyler_d, i think i'm mis-using the word launcher since i'm not talking about such a bar with shortcuts
[19:58] <Xabster> can anyone tell me what those kind of apps are called?
[19:58] <tyler_d> Xabster: ahhh.
[19:58] <tyler_d> Xabster: a search bar?
[19:58] <Madkiss> klync: With "rescue nomodeset" kernel parameters, the system hangs, too, right after some udevd-inotify-related messages. the last thing I see is "done."
[19:58] <tyler_d> Xabster: quick-launch bar?
[19:58] <Xabster> the ones where you hits a key-combo and a search box comes up where you search for installed programs
[19:58] <Xabster> yes
[19:58] <Xabster> something like that
[19:58] <Xabster> search bar
[19:58] <FloodBot1> Xabster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:58] <delerium> package operation failure, please go here for details http://paste.ubuntu.com/894168/
[20:00] <Xabster> it's kinda like Unity's Dash-thingy, tyler_d
[20:00] <stiltzkin> Hello folks, hoping someone can help me understand why GRUB is not getting installed to my MBR. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my HP Elitebook 8560w. The installation runs perfectly fine, but when I reboot I get the message "Boot Device Not Found. Please install an operating system on your hard disk." I assume that means the bootloader is not getting installed correctly. Any help with this would be extremely helpful.
[20:00] <klync> Madkiss: try this: http://www.brunolinux.com/05-Configuring_Your_System/Grub_boot_runlevel-3.html
[20:01] <klync> Madkiss: if you can get to a prompt, then it's just your X, and that might be fixable. if not, maybe it's whatever comes after udev in startup (i don't know offhand)
[20:01] <Madkiss> klync: given that I installed with debootstrap, I would think that no X is installed ;)
[20:02] <skywalker91> hey can any one help me
[20:02] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: Why are you trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 rather than 11.10?
[20:03] <klync> Madkiss: i have no idea what debootstrap is, but you said " I see something that looks like the system is trying to start X11 ...", so I went off that
[20:03] <Madkiss> ah, okay
[20:03] <Madkiss> well, I'll do some more fiddling then
[20:03] <skywalker91> hey can any one help me
[20:03] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, I need some of the legacy software in 10.10 (including GNOME 2.x). But this same issue applies with Ubuntu 11.x as well as Fedora 16. Something is obviously wrong because it's not getting to GRUB at all.
[20:04] <Jordan_U> Madkiss: klync: Ubuntu uses grub2, and with Upstart "runlevel 3" is equivalent to runlevel 5. So that guide is not particularly relevant.
[20:04] <klync> Jordan_U: thanks. still not used to this upstart shenanigans
[20:04] <hiexpo> skywalker91, just ask your ? don't ask to ask a ?
[20:05] <delerium> package operation failure, please go here for details http://paste.ubuntu.com/894168/
[20:05] <skywalker91> hey i've installed ubuntu after i've finished installation i restarted my pc but it goes along to windows 7 without permiting me to chose ubuntu
[20:05] <skywalker91> help please folks
[20:06] <hiexpo> skywalker91, so you installed ubuntu as a dual boot ?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: Ubuntu 10.10 will only be supported for another month. Can you not use XFCE or GNOME3 fallback? Can you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | stiltzkin
[20:06] <Jordan_U> skywalker91: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[20:06] <skywalker91> yes i choosed install it with windows and chose betwen them at start up
[20:07] <skywalker91> yes i have 2 but i installed it on the same HDD that has windows 7
[20:07] <Jordan_U> skywalker91: Try changing the boot order in your BIOS.
[20:08] <skywalker91> into what
[20:08] <skywalker91> change hard drives order or overal order
[20:08] <Jordan_U> skywalker91: To boot from whatever drive *isn't* currently set as the first boot drive.
[20:08] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, I don't care about official support, and I do not want to use GNOME3, XFCE, or any other DE with this installation. But that is besides the point - the installation of any Linux distro seems to fail installing GRUB. This is a very frustrating issue; it means I cannot install any OS
[20:09] <skywalker91> ok
[20:09] <hiexpo> he said he installed it on the same drive as windows 7
[20:09] <skywalker91> i'll try and feed u back in minutes
[20:10] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, I understand this issue may not be specific to Ubuntu but I'm not sure where else to ask. I was hoping someone would know more about this. There is a bug filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/864739
[20:10] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: Like I said, please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces.
[20:11] <stiltzkin> Jordan_U, I will try doing that from livecd, if that works. I cannot get to my hard drive install.
[20:12] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: It does work from a LiveCD.
[20:13] <Madkiss> Jordan_U, klync: Whatever was wrong -- after "tasksel install standard", it works ...
[20:13] <klync> Madkiss: woot!
[20:14] <Madkiss> i guess the good old days where one could just do "debootstrap oneiric foobar" are over ;)
[20:14] <w30> \
[20:15] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I just installed 11.10 on the i7, then switched the SSD to the i5
[20:15] <office_it_guy201> it works
[20:15] <office_it_guy201> so it's a bios thing, I suppose
[20:15] <Madkiss> some people might think that I am somewhat oldschool. And boy I am ;)
[20:16] <skywalker91> hey i've tried changing boot irder but nothing happened
[20:17] <josvuk> I'm serarchin in etc where xorg is started so I type grep xorg /etc/*.* but get only grep: /etc/blkid.tab: No such file or directory
[20:17] <skywalker91> hey help please
[20:18] <tata> how to get new gnu grub for ubuntu and windows?
[20:19] <skywalker91> I've installed Ubuntu as a dual boot alongside windows but after restart pc goes directly to windows i was a advised to change boot order but nothing happens
[20:19] <Madkiss> oh, I was happy too early.
[20:19] <Madkiss> still doesn't work.
[20:20] <josvuk> maybe apt-get, update-manager
[20:20] <skywalker91> I've installed Ubuntu as a dual boot alongside windows but after restart pc goes directly to windows i was a advised to change boot order but nothing happens
[20:21] <ohs> I would like to assign a static IP. I set the following configurations http://pastebin.com/2t1rMsQg        when I type /etc/init.d/networking restart   the IP has not changed the pc still gets the IP from dhcp. can anyone tell me what I do wrong?
[20:22] <josvuk> how to start in singleuser using yaboot?
[20:22] <itaylor57> ohs, i believe it is now sudo service networking restart
[20:22] <ohs> I type the commands as root
[20:23] <hexacode> anyone know any software for centos that lets me install ubuntu on flash drive? or any debian based software that will do it.
[20:23] <skywalker91> can i get help people
[20:23] <itaylor57> ohs, then as root service networking restart, its the new upstart way
[20:23] <hackerdecalculad> Hola, como estas?
[20:23] <klync> skywalker91: have you read through this, carefully? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:23] <hackerdecalculad> Gente que hable en Español?
[20:23] <itaylor57> !es | hackerdecalculad
[20:24] <josvuk> sorry, man grub No manual entry for grub
[20:24] <ohs> itaylor57: I am not familiar with linux, what do you suggest me? what command should I write or what do I need to fix on the command?
[20:25] <hackerdecalculad> Okey, thanks.
[20:25] <dan3son> Trying to use bash
[20:26] <dan3son> sudo bash myscript
[20:26] <dan3son> 'killall mediatomb' prints ':no process found'
[20:26] <dan3son> Yet sudo killall mediatomb from the ssh console works?
[20:27] <itaylor57> ohs, in a terminal type "service network restart" without the quotes, and what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:28] <ohs> it is angstroms distribution, not ubuntu. I guessed the usage should be the same, doesnt it?
[20:28] <itaylor57> ohs, i have no idea, this is ubuntu only support here
[20:28] <josvuk> dan3son can you paste myscript?
[20:28] <ohs> ok thanks
[20:29] <AcidRain> under ubuntu i have an ftp server running under the user ftpuser.  how should i modify my files that any ftpuser can access certain files, yet at the same time, my rhythmbox program can also access them under the username acidrain?
[20:29] <AcidRain> im having the issue of 550 file or directory not found. which is caused by a permissions issue
[20:30] <Pici> AcidRain: Place both users in the same group and then grant that group read access to the files.
[20:30] <loptr> hi
[20:31] <AcidRain> Pici: but acidrain is part of sudoers
[20:31] <AcidRain> well...
[20:31] <AcidRain> er... this is getting confusing
[20:31] <ssta> group isn't the same as user
[20:32] <Jordan_U> stiltzkin: I need to leave very soon. Will you have the boot info script results soon?
[20:32] <dan3son> Here's my script
[20:32] <dan3son> http://pastebin.com/BJz3UQG0
[20:32] <AcidRain> ok. so group right now is "acidrain", where can i grant these permissions to read only access?
[20:33] <ssta> dan3son: why are you running that as root?
[20:33] <Pici> AcidRain: You could either set the ownership of the file to acidrain:whatevergrouptheftpuserisin  or for easier understanding and full compatibility of what you currently have, add ftpuser and acidrain to a group and then chown that file/path to acidrain:thatgroup
[20:33] <itaylor57> AcidRain, create a new group and grant yourself and the ftpuser access to that new group and chmod the dirs
[20:33] <Madkiss> klync: apparently, I need to set the "nomodeset" boot parameter
[20:33] <Madkiss> I wonder what might be missing
[20:33] <dan3son> ssta, well in the ssh console I cannot kill it without sudoing
[20:33] <Jordan_U> dan3son: I would get rid of the '-f', it shouldn't be needed and is generally a bad idea to include where not needed.
[20:34] <dan3son> So I figured the script would need the saame
[20:34] <ssta> dan3son: who owns the mediatomb processes?
[20:34] <dan3son> 'mediatomb' I believe, if started at boot
[20:35] <dan3son> If I do it manually after killing it by 'mediatomb -d' (daemon), I believe it runs under my own user
[20:35] <dsenator> hi all, I need to find the equivalent of some excel tools in libre office calc
[20:35] <dsenator> i need Developer where I can use the Spin function
[20:35] <AcidRain> Pici: itaylor57thanks. im pretty sure i just fixed my issue.
[20:36] <dsenator> I also need the Evolvertool
[20:36] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I just downloaded the BIOS upgrade disc, attempted to run it on an i7, and it said no update is necessary.
[20:36] <AcidRain> wow. that was easy. looks like it really is fixed. thanks! i been messing with this for months!
[20:36] <office_it_guy201> I think I'm screwed.
[20:36] <AcidRain> :/
[20:36] <llutz> dsenator: maybe better to ask in #libreoffice
[20:37] <ssta> dan3son: hmm...only thing that should be run sudo then is the killall... and debug by adding -i to killall to be sure that it's doing what you think it is
[20:37] <dsenator> anyone pls
[20:37] <ohs> what does it mean? ifup: misplaced option "ifdown(8)"
[20:37] <dsenator> I need to know what linux tool does ther functions of Developer and Evolver tools in Excel
[20:37] <dan3son> Hmm. I turned it into verbose
[20:38] <dan3son> The output is strange
[20:38] <dan3son> http://pastebin.com/HnTm8SC1
[20:38] <dan3son> It reports its killed it, but it doesn't appear to actually do that
[20:39] <ssta> dan3son: that's correct
[20:39] <ssta> dan3son: you told it to kill it with SIGHUP.   (I'm typing this from my laptop)
[20:41] <dan3son> ssta, haven't got there yet :)
[20:41] <Code_Factory> I', trying to download ubuntu but it says 32-bit recommended and I'm on a 64-bit machine, any advise or reasons?
[20:42] <c_smith> Code_Factory, how much RAM do you have?
[20:42] <llutz> Code_Factory: ignore it, get amd64
[20:42] <AcidRain> you can use 32bit on a 64bit machine. just not 64 on a 32
[20:42] <c_smith> in other words memory
[20:42] <Code_Factory> 3 GB
[20:42] <Dulak> Code_Factory: it always recommends 32 bit, because that is the most compatible version
[20:42] <ssta> dan3son: okay.  Well, use -15 and it will (probably) die.  (although a process isn't obliged to die on a SIGTERM, most will behave themselves)
[20:43] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: I know.. thanx :) I'm just trying to get the best performance
[20:43] <c_smith> then 32-bit should work just as well as 64-bit, the only benefit I've found is if you have over 3 GB.
[20:43] <c_smith> as 32-bit only supports up to 3 GB.
[20:43] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: well i use a 64bit ubuntu.  and i would say im very pleased with it. my advice is to get 11.04 if you hate unity.
[20:43] <Code_Factory> c_smitch: thnx for the tip..
[20:43] <itaylor57> Code_Factory, get the 64 bit, not 32
[20:43] <c_smith> no prob
[20:44] <Dulak> c_smith: to be accurate it is 2.6-2.8g depending on your bios
[20:44] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: hmm what is unity?
[20:44] <c_smith> Dulak, duly noted.
[20:44] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, did you take the i7 hard drive and plop it in the i5 and it worked?
[20:44] <office_it_guy201> yes, that worked
[20:44] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: sorry. im acutally using 10.04 LTS lucid linux
[20:44] <Code_Factory> you guys think I'll have a problem with virtulization
[20:44] <ssta> c_smith: umm...32bit Ubuntu will support up to 64G
[20:44] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: unity is a horrible desktop interface that trys to copy windows
[20:45] <Praxi> none of my versions of windows look like unity
[20:45] <c_smith> ssta, ah, my info must be outdated then.
[20:45] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: thnx.. but no thnx :D
[20:45] <AcidRain> fortunately, 10.04 was the last release (that i know of) that uses the classic gnome2 desktop
[20:45] <Praxi> looks more like mac with the menu bars being at thet op
[20:45] <Praxi> top*
[20:45] <Code_Factory> ok.. another question, what happens if I install lucid Lynx!! I already have a copy
[20:45] <Dulak> When did they make bigmem the default?
[20:46] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: well i get updates still. and i am very pleased with it. very fast desktop
[20:46] <AcidRain> then again, i have quadcore with 8gig memory :)
[20:46] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: Nice ;) anyway, I can't opt out of unity with 11.10 and just use gnome / kde
[20:46] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[20:47] <ssta> Dulak: I think in lucid.  The installer detects the amount of RAM and uses the pae kernel if required
[20:47] <c_smith> well, I still have the code dump on my screen, it does indeed have mentions of Khelper, kthread and kernel_thread_helper.
[20:47] <Dulak> ssta: nice
[20:47] <c_smith> so something has had to have gone wrong with the kernel, right?
[20:47] <ssta> Might have been maverick, but I think it was lucid that it started doing it
[20:47] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: there is a gnome/kde package in repos for 11.04 and up. but... you will be very sad when you see the poor attempt to make gnome run under unity
[20:47] <delerium> can someone help me with 'package operation fail'? details here http://paste.ubuntu.com/894250/
[20:47] <c_smith> I get a similar problem from livecd.
[20:48] <AcidRain> Code_Factory: it will take alot more  modifications to a unity desktop to make it look like gnome than what you think. i had horrible crying experience in which i stayed up late, did bad drugs, and cut myself
[20:48] <AcidRain> :)
[20:49] <c_smith> is there someone who can help me, or another channel that this belongs in?
[20:49] <Code_Factory> AcidRain: thnx a million you've been a gr8 deal of help
[20:49] <Code_Factory> buy guys
[20:50] <AcidRain> yay i helped someone.
[20:50]  * AcidRain goes to sleep
[20:50] <c_smith> and just for details: the only modification I made to the desktop was fixing my 3 RAM sticks so they were fully inserted.
[20:50] <Praxi> office_it_guy201, try ubuntu 10.10?  lots of other tasty bits in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728526&page=3
[20:50] <c_smith> should I repeat my problem?
[20:51] <lusuhard> hello, problem of installation of my canon pixma mx 320, ubuntu 10.04 lts, amd 64, drivers installed with --force-architecture
[20:53] <office_it_guy201> Praxi, I'll try that. Although I need some features in 11.10, it'd be nice to see this work.
[20:54] <office_it_guy201> very frustrating than an OLDER version of the T420s model works while the newer one doesn't.
[20:55] <Praxi> on page 3 of that thread was more interesting stuff people did to make it work for HD3000
[20:59] <c_smith> I'm getting kernel panics and at other times what seems to be kernel crash dumps, and I have no idea what it means, or what I can do to fix it, is there any way I can fix this, or does this belong in another channel? each of the kernel crash dumps always include mentions of kthread_worker, kernel_thread_helper, and kthread.
[21:00] <GhostConn> OMG!!! this is driving me crazy how come when i minimize programs with ubuntu 11:10 they go to the cairodock dock at the bottom but when i try to maximize them from with the ubuntu dock on the left or the cairodock it wont reopen i have to close the app then reopen
[21:00] <GhostConn> DRIVING ME CRAZYYY
[21:00] <Oer> office_it_guy201, did you enable ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa ?? >>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/113686/ubuntu-11-10-wont-detect-drivers-for-intel-hd-graphics-3000
[21:01] <GhostConn> is there a way to change so minimized apps only go to cairo dock not the garbage ubuntu side pannel on the left
[21:03] <rebe> should I upgrade my ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 LTS beta1 ?
[21:04] <ikonia> rebe: up to you
[21:04] <GhostConn> or dose anyone know the fix to a black splash screen? I have even installed splash screen manager and tried numerous different ones however they only seem to work when I shutdown and I get a black boot screen until login
[21:04] <Oer> rebe allways welcome to test the beta, and there is a special support channel :-)
[21:04] <dlentz> rebe, unless you have a really good reason, why risk it?
[21:04] <ssta> rebe: If there's something in it that you need that 11.10 doesn't have, then sure
[21:04] <rebe> I meant is that stable or wil crashh all the time, I wanna replace my 11.10 with that
[21:04] <Oer> lots of improvement ..
[21:05] <dlentz> GhostConn, what video driver are you using?
[21:05] <GhostConn> CCC
[21:05] <GhostConn> ati
[21:05] <GhostConn> ati 4870
[21:05] <dlentz> heh, that explains it
[21:05] <ssta> rebe: it will be released in like a month or so...why not wait?
[21:05] <GhostConn> ?
[21:05] <GhostConn> not possible with ati?
[21:05] <rebe> yea I think I will wait, thx guys
[21:06] <tata> I need command in terminal for new gnu grub?
[21:07] <dlentz> GhostConn, there are workarounds (goggle 'fglrx plymouth'
[21:07] <CFHowlett> tata   alt f2
[21:07] <GhostConn> ok thanks i will try
[21:07] <jlkkljh> when i booted ubuntu it said unable to handle kernel
[21:07] <CFHowlett> tata   wait, that's wrong.  sorry
[21:08] <tata> ok
[21:08] <tata> I wait
[21:08] <greenit> hi, i have a problem, but i dont really know where to ask or what to search for... i have an ubuntu-server and when i press the power-button, the server does, like if it boots, but it doesn't read anything from the harddisk, not even the grub... does any1 know why this problem occurs? after a few times turning the computer on and off, it can read from the harddisk, but i don't like to try 10 mins to 15 mins if it works when i want
[21:08] <greenit> to start the server...
[21:08] <dlentz> tata, what do you mean 'new grub'?
[21:08] <CFHowlett> tata  gnu and grub are two different things.
[21:08] <tata> ok let me explane...
[21:08] <dlentz> are you referring to 'update-grub' command?
[21:08] <ikonia> greenit: sounds like a hardware problem, contact the vendor
[21:09] <greenit> ikonia, k, thx
[21:09] <dlentz> greenit, i would check the bios to see if it is seeing the disk
[21:09] <deekay-mint> is it okay to ask Mint12 questions in here ?
[21:09] <tata> now, I have grub4dos and gnu grub for starting OS. I want only gnu grub
[21:09] <CFHowlett> !mint|deekay-mint
[21:10] <deekay-mint> cheers
[21:10] <ardian_> Hi im having a problem my laptop fan is always making noise even nothing is open, on win7 works perfectly
[21:10] <dan3son> How can I concatenate strings in bash?
[21:11] <tata> how to delete grub4dos in MBR?
[21:11] <dan3son> I.E. I want to take some file and put like .backupA on the end of the name
[21:11] <matt5> if I download the beta 12.04 and install it... and I keep periodically updating it, will I be okay with that -- in that when 12.04 gets released, I'll be up-to-date and won't have to do anything?
[21:11] <ikonia> matt5: depends what breaks
[21:11] <CFHowlett> tata   just reinstall grub - it'll write over whatever grub4dos is present
[21:11] <Kotus> dan3son, += ?
[21:12] <ikonia> matt5: why don't you just wait for the release, if you are not confident with how the upgrade process works, just wait for it to be released.
[21:12] <Kotus> FILENAME+=
[21:12] <matt5> ikonia: what're the chances? wouldn't it mostly be a safe bet?
[21:12] <ikonia> matt5: no, it's not a safe bet, that's why it's pre-release in beta software
[21:12] <matt5> ikonia: really impatient. But I guess I can wait until the second beta! end of march it is, I think
[21:12] <afidegnum> hello, how do I find the current name of the OS installed?
[21:12] <CFHowlett> afidegnum   lsb_release -a
[21:12] <ikonia> matt5: why wait for the second beta ? either do it (your problem) or don't
[21:13] <dlentz> !final matt5
[21:13] <afidegnum> ok
[21:13] <dlentz> !final | matt5
[21:13] <matt5> wow, beautiful, thanks man
[21:13] <Guest51253> exit
[21:13] <afidegnum> anyone knows an open source WHM system for Ubuntu>
[21:13] <afidegnum> ?
[21:14] <w30> a "safe bet" is an oxymoron. A bet deals with odds. Safe bet implys on odds.
[21:14] <tata> CFHowlett> what ic comand in terminal for reinstall grub?
[21:14] <w30> on/no
[21:14] <c_smith> has anyone seen my problem?
[21:15] <CFHowlett> !grub2|tata
[21:15] <dlentz> w30, 'safe' is a relative term (odds are significantly in your fave). sure bet is an oxymoron
[21:15] <CFHowlett> tata   see teh restoring grub portion of the tutorial
[21:15] <matt5> that's semantics, this world is not a booleanic black&white one, there are lots of "bets" to be taken everywhere, even though they may/may not seem like it
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[21:16] <CFHowlett> !spam|need_card
[21:16] <CFHowlett> need_card   no spamming thank you
[21:16] <c_smith> not just spam, but advertising......
[21:16] <guntbert> !ot | matt5 w30
[21:17] <c_smith> methinks need_card might have been a bot.
[21:17] <dan3son> I guess I'm not getting it. It's still not working correctly
[21:17] <dan3son> http://pastebin.com/z1Gshd9J
[21:17] <ssta> dan3son: what are you trying to do?
[21:18] <w30> dlentz, heh, heh. If any bad chance exists it ain't safe especially if the stakes are astronomical.
[21:18] <erinaceus> Hey, I'm looking to safe the list of installed software, but im using a live disk, so deb --config thing is not an option. Is there another way to read it from the filesystem
[21:18] <ssta> erinaceus: dpkg --get-selections
[21:18] <dan3son> I'm trying to take a file path and concatenate it with a fixed string (like .backup.) and a command line parameter
[21:19] <erinaceus> ssta: As i said, that wont work unless i change root dir, but i'd rather not do that
[21:19] <c_smith> is there something that 3 perfectly good (checked for errors on memtest86, and none found) 1GB RAM sticks could do to cause constant kernel crashes and panics?
[21:19] <dan3son> So if I do like bash myscript A, it will copy some files to someFile.backup.A
[21:19] <c_smith> mind you, this is an old desktop that uses PC-3200 RAM that I am talking about.
[21:19] <ssta> dan3son: NFIL1=$(echo ${FIL1}.backup.${1}) # should be something close to that
[21:20] <erinaceus> dan3son: file="someFile.backup"$1; would be my guess
[21:20] <ssta> dan3son: there are a few ways to do it
[21:20] <guntbert> c_smith: how long did you run memtest on them? ALL tests?
[21:20] <dan3son> Thanks ssta
[21:20] <c_smith> not sure, but I ran each individually, then ran them all 3 at once.
[21:22] <guntbert> c_smith: in my experience errors show often in the tests #6 - #8 only
[21:22] <c_smith> well, I ran the default tests.
[21:23] <c_smith> and the default, if I remember correctly, included everything.
[21:24] <uyaffe_> Hi, need some help. can't fine MySQL Query Browser after upgrading my Ubuntu to version 12.04
[21:24] <ssta> c_smith: I'd try two sticks at a time, in all three combinations, and see if it fixes the problem.  The chances of more than one stick being bad are smaller imo
[21:24] <guntbert> c_smith: yes, did you run it for at least on complete set? or did you interrupt ?
[21:24]  * testerrror returns where he came from
[21:25] <ssta> uyaffe_: I imagine you'll have more success asking in #ubuntu+1
[21:25] <c_smith> guntbert, I ran it for the whole time for each individual one, and then all 3 at once.
[21:25] <uyaffe_> Thanks!
[21:25] <TorbenBeta> How can I bring the ls command to show me the number of items and their collective size?
[21:26] <guntbert> c_smith: I was asking because there is no "whole time" - it only stops when interrupted by you
[21:27] <c_smith> I stopped it after it had run all the tests once.
[21:27] <ssta> TorbenBeta: collective size, use the "du" command (-S to not count subdirs).  number of items: ls | wc -l
[21:28] <TorbenBeta> Thanks.
[21:29] <dominik> hello Ubuntu experts
[21:29] <douglaslucas> [Si]: I got the nvidia driver working last night through bumblebee :)
[21:29] <[Si]> douglaslucas!! nice one
[21:31] <ohs> I am a beginner in linux, I want to ask a very noob question. I am trying to follow an instruction and it says "in /etc/init.d create a script called fixnetwork
[21:31] <ohs> Contents of fixnetwork script:
[21:31] <ohs> #!/bin/sh
[21:31] <ohs> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:31] <ohs> cp /etc/resolv.ok /etc/resolv.conf"
[21:31] <FloodBot1> ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <ohs> how can I create the script file
[21:31] <ohs> nano?
[21:31] <ohs> nano fixnetwork?
[21:32] <c_smith> so, I let memtest run all 9 tests each time, and no errors were found.
[21:32] <dominik> new install of 11.10, trying to set up vnc, I can connect but can only see empty desktop without any launch bar
[21:33] <bearded-sully> I have a dual boot set up with a shared storage partition, Win xp and Ubuntu Precise, I'm trying to change the default file locations of ubuntu to be in the storage partition, which I have auto mounting on boot already. any pointers? It's not how it used to be before unity...
[21:33] <CFHowlett> !precise|bearded-sully
[21:35] <guntbert> c_smith: in  that case I have no helpful idea, sorry
[21:35] <c_smith> ok
[21:35] <c_smith> so, in this case, this might be a bug, correct?
[21:35] <guntbert> !who | c_smith for the future
[21:37] <c_smith> guntbert, duly noted.
[21:38] <c_smith> well, I'm going to count the desktop as a loss until I can get it overhauled, then i'll test again.
[21:39] <c_smith> guntbert, thanks for at least trying, but as I said to pretty much nobody in general, I'm going to let the desktop sit until I get the money to overhaul it.
[21:39] <guntbert> c_smith: Good luck :-)
[21:39] <c_smith> thanks
[21:39] <goster> hello
[21:40] <CFHowlett> goster   greetings
[21:41] <nujabes> what is a good file encryption tool?
[21:41] <CFHowlett> nujabes   encryptfs
[21:42] <nujabes> CFHowlett thanks
[21:42] <CFHowlett> nujabes   have fun / be safe
[21:43] <nujabes> CFHowlett haha nothing dangerous
[21:43] <m1chael> i have 6.1gigs of mpg's... i have a dvd with 4.7gb.. i used this ffmpeg command to prepare my mpgs: ffmpeg -i test.MTS -target pal-dvd -ps<PHONE_NUMBER> -aspect 16:9 finale_video.mpeg # does dvd authoring compress at all? is there something i can do with ffmpeg to compress the videos so they fit on a dvd?
[21:43] <KBentley57> can anyone recommend a good guide to setting up distcc on two ubuntu boxes?  I've been trying all morning without much luck
[21:44] <Zackington> info on how to run ubuntu through bootcamp on a mac
[21:44] <Zackington> ?
[21:44] <CFHowlett> Zackington   see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[21:45] <Zackington> without the firmware password but...
[21:45] <Zackington> its compicated
[21:45] <Zackington> complicated
[21:46] <KBentley57> don't have the firmware password?  is it your pc or a school mac?
[21:48] <NoViS1> Can anyone help me get the partition manager to start during install for Ubuntu Server 11.10 with a hardware RAID1 enabled?
[21:49] <w30> the firmware password is QOOI98893330982JEWEO
[21:51] <ohs> in /etc/init.d create a script called fixnetwork
[21:51] <ohs> Contents of fixnetwork script:
[21:51] <ohs> #!/bin/sh
[21:51] <ohs> cp /etc/resolv.ok /etc/resolv.conf
[21:51] <FloodBot1> ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <ohs> does it mean that I need to type nano fixnetwork and type the code inside the fixnetwork?
[21:52] <ohs> please help:)
[21:52] <KBentley57> i believe it means do nano fixnetwork.sh
[21:53] <KBentley57> and put those lines inside it
[21:53] <dlentz> (sudo nano)
[21:53] <ohs> thank you very much
[21:53] <AndyUbuntu> evening everyont
[21:53] <AndyUbuntu> everyone
[21:53] <dominik> new install of 11.10, trying to set up vnc, I can connect but can only see empty desktop without any launch bar, edited ~/.vnc/xstartup without success :(
[21:53] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   greetings
[21:53] <AndyUbuntu> has anyone come across any problems installing the latest version on gimp?
[21:54] <CFHowlett> !anyone|andyubuntu
[21:54] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   state the issue YOU are having ...
[21:54] <dlentz> AndyUbuntu, i've seen people complaining about dependency issues with ppa versions of gimp
[21:54] <AndyUbuntu> i have the gimp repo and am not able to install the new version as i am having dependancy issues
[21:54] <goddard> anyone use anjuta?
[21:55] <goddard> how can i change gcc version?
[21:55] <AndyUbuntu> ahh ok i thougt people may of been having similar issues
[21:55] <AndyUbuntu> dlentz, is there a way to fix these issues?
[21:56] <dlentz> AndyUbuntu, it dpends on the specific error...
[21:57] <AndyUbuntu> dlenz, this is what i have been getting:  gimp : Depends: libgimp2.0 (>= 2.7.5) but 2.6.11-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[21:58] <NoViS1> Is there a way to start a menu'd partitioner in a terminal during install?
[21:58] <AndyUbuntu> it says i have broken packages but i have checked and i dont have any :S
[21:58] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: you have the gimp ppa
[21:58] <CellTech> Can Lubuntu software center work in Xubuntu?
[21:59] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: your system is broke
[21:59] <hilarie> What does the %id mean in this string from top? Cpu(s):  1.3%us,  1.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 56.3%id, 40.7%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.3%si,  0.0%st
[21:59] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia is this because there is a problem with the gimp ppa at the moment?
[21:59] <haz3lnut> AndyUbuntu: use aptitude from the terminal
[21:59] <haz3lnut> AndyUbuntu: it's good with broken packages
[21:59] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: not "at the moment" - PPA's are unsupported because anyone can make them with any quality of software
[22:00] <ikonia> haz3lnut: it won't work -
[22:00] <haz3lnut> ikonia: elaborate?
[22:00] <[Si]> hilarie Idle
[22:00] <ikonia> haz3lnut: there are conflicts within the gimp PPA and the ubuntu core repos,
[22:00] <KBentley57> CellTech, i don't see why it wouldn't
[22:00] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, so would you recoment removing the repository and downgrading?
[22:00] <CellTech> Awesome, thank you
[22:00] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: best of luck with that.....
[22:01] <hilarie> [Si] ty
[22:01] <CellTech> I need a lighter version of it. My Xubuntu one stalls and is a RAM hog
[22:01] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, i am able to purge the gimp ppa and install an older version and it works fine
[22:01] <haz3lnut> ikonia: well then, AndyUbuntu: install from core repo and forget PPA
[22:01] <hilarie> CellTech try xubuntu :)
[22:02] <CellTech> I'm on it. And it's still a ram hog
[22:02] <AndyUbuntu> haz3lnut, which is the core ppa?
[22:02] <diverdude> when will php5.4 be available in the official repo?
[22:02] <haz3lnut> ikonia: but still aptitude will help you fix broken shit better than anythig else.
[22:02] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: then why are you asking for help if you are telling me you can do this ?
[22:02] <hilarie> CellTech how much ram do you have?
[22:02] <AndyUbuntu> just to make sure, i may delete the other ppa
[22:02] <KBentley57> CellTech, how advanced would you rate yourself on ubuntu?  I've got some suggestions if you're up to it
[22:02] <CellTech> 512
[22:03] <CellTech> Not too advanced but I do listen well
[22:03] <ikonia> haz3lnut: 1.) no need for that language 2.) aptitude can't fix broken software conflicts
[22:03] <AndyUbuntu> well, the old version that was on there is a really old version and i want to install the latest version which i dont know how to do
[22:03] <AndyUbuntu> so i need your guys help :)
[22:03] <haz3lnut> ikonia: sorry for offending you, my god, what have we become?
[22:03] <hilarie> CellTech are you sure you aren't looking at buffers and stuff? not the actual usage
[22:03] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: answer this - WHY do you want a newer version
[22:03] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: what's in the newer version that you want
[22:04] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, i would like the single window mode mainly
[22:04] <CellTech> I determine by how slow and choppy the computer gets when I try and open something
[22:04] <ikonia> haz3lnut: yeah, it's pretty bad when you can't even talk to someone without swearing infront of 1400+ people, what have we become
[22:04] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[22:04] <KBentley57> CellTech, I usually do a minimal install from the minimal iso and build the desktop up from that
[22:04] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia:  ubuntu 11.10
[22:05] <ikonia> !info gimp
[22:05] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu  compile from source - not for the weak of heart, but doable...
[22:05] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: that's pretty much the latest version from the stable branch
[22:05] <AndyUbuntu> haz3lnut, thanks for you assistance as well
[22:05] <KBentley57> CellTech, using that, and compiling my own kernel, I only end up using about 225 mb of ram idle on unity 2d
[22:05] <ikonia> CFHowlett: terrible idea
[22:05] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: what version are you looking for
[22:05] <metaph> hi, is there a way to restore session?? cannot pass the login screen, only can get through with guest session
[22:05] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   noting of course that 2.7 is a *development* release so expect the unexpected
[22:05] <AndyUbuntu> I would like 2.7
[22:06] <AndyUbuntu> it may of been a late version on 2.6
[22:06] <haz3lnut> ikonia: donning nun's habit, sorry for transgression folks. won;t happen again.
[22:06] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   larger number doesn't mean better ...
[22:06] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: ok, so you want to use development software on a stable distro, and you're wondering why the software repo you've got it from that has confclitcs ?
[22:06] <CFHowlett> might be wiser to wait
[22:06] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: one moment, let me check something
[22:06] <AndyUbuntu> no i dont want to use the development as all
[22:06] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: 2.7 is the development branch
[22:06] <AndyUbuntu> just want the single window mode
[22:07] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: and 11.10 is pretty much the latest stable version
[22:07] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   2.7 *is* development see www.gimp.org/downloads
[22:07] <AndyUbuntu> ok, so i want 2.6 with single window mode
[22:08] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: have you actually researched this ? what version does single window mode come in ?
[22:08] <pislaw> czesc wszystkim
[22:08] <CFHowlett> !cz|pislaw
[22:08] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   see https://encrypted.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=gimp+2.6+single+window&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[22:08] <AndyUbuntu> i did have it before i enabled the gimp repo, i lost it all and installed the latest version  today from ubuntu and i didnt have the single window mode
[22:08] <pislaw> zebym to ja jeszcze wiedzial jak:D
[22:09] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: so you had it in the version you where using it...... then decided to install a later version ? why ?
[22:09] <AndyUbuntu> want to completely stear away from the gimp repo as it seems a bit of a mess lol
[22:09] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: sorry, I'm just to fathom out what you've done and why to stop you doing this again
[22:09] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: if you know it worked in the version you had, why did you upgrade it ?
[22:10] <AndyUbuntu> i didnt install the latest version, it was removed from an update,. Not sure how tbh
[22:10] <pislaw> jest ktos z polski??
[22:10] <AndyUbuntu> slightly skrewed up gimp as it was perfect
[22:10] <AndyUbuntu> lol
[22:10] <ikonia> what was removed ?
[22:10] <ikonia> !pl | pislaw
[22:11] <AndyUbuntu> not sure why it was, i used it all the time and noticed it gone
[22:11] <AndyUbuntu> its ok, i will downgrade again and remove the other repo for good now
[22:12] <ericus> Is it OK to disable watchdog?
[22:12] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, theres alway the nuke from orbit option and reinstall ubuntu
[22:12] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: if that works, well done, I don't think it will though, I think the dependencies will be screwed,
[22:12] <KBentley57> AndyUbuntu, lol
[22:12] <Fleep> Anyone know how to setup the options Apache starts up with on Ubuntu, equivalent of the -D directive when starting up the daemon? In other systems, there is an "APACHE_OPTS" environment variable that lets you define which options are passed to the startup script
[22:13] <ikonia> Fleep: look at the upstart script and it's config file
[22:13] <AndyUbuntu> lol yeah :) Is there a way to resolve the dependancy issues?
[22:13] <ikonia> AndyUbuntu: see if you get them first (I suspect you will)
[22:14] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, I will let you know how it goes. Thanks
[22:15]  * auronandace never uses any extra repos and therefore never had any dependency issues
[22:15] <Fleep> ikonia: Thanks, found it. /etc/defaults/apache2
[22:16] <skenmy> I am having an issue whereby pulseaudio will crash every time I log out / log in. "service pulseaudio start" does not start it again - but "pulseaudio --start" does. Any tips on how to start troubleshooting?
[22:17] <london> hello people
[22:17] <london> have a question about ubuntu tv
[22:17] <nasser_> hi, ubuntu 11.10 doesn't detect my iPhone 4S device
[22:17] <AndyUbuntu> ikonia, i have it installed and working again
[22:18] <auronandace> !ubuntutv | london
[22:18] <AndyUbuntu> do you know if there is a way in install single window mode with this version tho?
[22:19] <bdi> When will php5.4 be available in the offical repo?
[22:19] <Fleep> ikonia: Nevermind, I was wrong. Still poking around.
[22:20] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu  ask #gimp #gimp-users #gimp-web #gimps
[22:21] <AndyUbuntu> CFHowlett, thanks
[22:21] <CFHowlett> AndyUbuntu   best of luck
[22:21] <AndyUbuntu> cheers
[22:24] <ericus> Sorry for asking again but is it OK to disable watchdog?
[22:24] <ericus> for powersaving
[22:25] <ericus> powertop tells me to disable it
[22:28] <BryanRuiz> so i cant ssh to my server from THIS ip but it works from THAT ip
[22:28] <BryanRuiz> any ideas?
[22:28] <BryanRuiz> its like im IP banned
[22:28] <london> do anybody know how to properly add ubuntu tv?
[22:28] <N4h4r4-> irc.gamesurge.net - This connects to any of the GameSurge public IRC servers.
[22:28] <auronandace> !ubuntutv | london
[22:29] <malac0da> !s new girl
[22:29] <ericus> BryanRuiz: check /etc/host.allow
[22:30] <BryanRuiz> ericus: wouldnt it be host.deny?
[22:31] <ericus> BryanRuiz: dont know
[22:31] <auronandace> BryanRuiz: that would depend on if you use a blacklist or whitelist, a whitelist seems more sensible in this case
[22:32] <poincare101> Hi everyone. I'm having a bit of trouble with apt-get; it seems that I've somehow gotten rid of libc. This is what sudo apt-get install python3 is telling me: http://pastie.org/3644330 And, this is the output of sudo apt-get install -f: http://pastie.org/3644337 What's going on, and how should I go about fixing it?
[22:33] <ikonia> poincare101: you've not got rid of libc - you've just enabled some PPA's that are creating conflicts
[22:33] <ikonia> !info libc6
[22:33] <Zaitzev> can anyone recommend a decent, lightweight program I can add/search for online streaming radios?
[22:34] <Zaitzev> Banshee doesn't really cut it imho
[22:34] <ikonia> poincare101: first thing do a sudo apt-get update
[22:34] <ikonia> poincare101: get your repos in sync,
[22:34] <wieso> Zaitzev: streamtuner
[22:34] <Zaitzev> hm, i'll have a look
[22:34] <poincare101> ikonia: did it.
[22:34] <wieso> i think: sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[22:34] <ikonia> ok - so what repos have you got enabled ?
[22:35] <Zaitzev> wieso: i find streamtuner and streamtuner2, I assume I should go for 2? ;p
[22:35] <wieso> ah, oh, I dont know, mom
[22:35] <wieso> I have version 0.99.99
[22:35] <wieso> Zaitzev: ^
[22:35] <poincare101> ikonia: I'll show you /etc/apt/sources.lst: http://pastie.org/3644349
[22:35] <mbengaabdou> abudu
[22:36] <Zaitzev> wieso: Yeah I see both 0.99.99 and 2.0.8-5
[22:36] <Zaitzev> I'll try the 2.0 one and see how it does
[22:36] <ikonia> poincare101: all looks pretty solid, anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:36] <ikonia> poincare101: also you may want to disable backports
[22:36] <wieso> yep
[22:36] <poincare101> ikonia: but, how is that related to the problem?
[22:36] <wieso> Zaitzev: let me know
[22:36] <poincare101> ikonia: ldconfig is bricked.
[22:36] <ikonia> poincare101: how is what related to the problem
[22:37] <nuf0xx> o/
[22:37] <poincare101> ikonia: backports
[22:37] <nuf0xx> how can I see if a specific daemon loaded on boot (or is running)
[22:37] <ikonia> poincare101: because you may find packages conflicting/held back due to back ports
[22:38] <poincare101> ikonia: okay, removed backports, now trying again
[22:38] <cryptotheslow> nuf0xx:  ps aux | grep >daemon<   ...  where >daemon< is the process name you expect for the process should do
[22:38] <Zaitzev> wieso: crap, I'm going through configuration settings now and see that it has audacious for default mp3 player (wtf?), and I removed audacious earlier..
[22:38] <ikonia> poincare101: apt-get update first, it may not fix it, but it will make resolving it easier
[22:38] <poincare101> ikonia: I know, updated
[22:38] <Zaitzev> wieso: I don't want to have 10 applications doing the same thing, installed on my system. ;p
[22:39] <poincare101> ikonia: nope, same problem.
[22:39] <wieso> Zaitzev: ah, sry
[22:39] <wieso> I like it, its easy
[22:39] <wieso> Zaitzev: Bunshee?
[22:39] <Zaitzev> hmph
[22:39] <Zaitzev> I was hoping to not have to have anything but one player doing it all, or something.
[22:39] <ikonia> poincare101: is there anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[22:39] <poincare101> ikonia: I'll check
[22:40] <nuf0xx> cryptotheslow: thanks
[22:40] <ikonia> !info
[22:40] <ikonia> 22:39 < poincare101> ikonia: nope, same problem.
[22:40] <ikonia> oops
[22:40] <ikonia> sorry
[22:40] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:40] <lewis1711_> silly question, but if I download 12.04 and install it now, when it will be able to update itself to the stable version when it's released, right? :)
[22:40] <zykotick9> !final | lewis1711_
[22:40] <lewis1711_> (my bandwidth is sort of limited
[22:40] <ikonia> !info python3
[22:40] <dan3son> How can I remove all .m4p files in a nested arangement of folders?
[22:40] <lewis1711_> sweet, ty
[22:40] <dan3son> rm -r *.m4p doesn't work
[22:40] <poincare101> ikonia: yeah, there are two files, google-talkplugin.list oneiric-partner.list
[22:41] <wieso> dan3son: with find grep and exec
[22:41] <ikonia> poincare101: well, I'm not sure about the google one, but I can't see either of them causing that conflict
[22:41] <ikonia> poincare101: do an apt-cache policy on libc6
[22:41] <wylde> dan3son: for one it's -R not -r :)
[22:41] <ikonia> !info libc6
[22:41] <ikonia> poincare101: as you can see the version current in 11.10 is 2.13-20ubuntu5.1
[22:41] <dan3son> Could you guys show me an ecxample?
[22:41] <wieso> dan3son: mom
[22:42] <ikonia> poincare101: so why your machine things 2.13-20ubuntu5 is current is the issue
[22:42] <ikonia> thinks
[22:42] <poincare101> ikonia: Its not been updated
[22:42] <kitchen> any hints about how to stop oneiric from probing jack insertion on my headphone jack?  it's causing skips every 3s or so
[22:42] <ikonia> poincare101: what's not been updated ?
[22:42] <wylde> dan3son: find /path/to/folder -type f -name "*.mp4" -delete
[22:42] <poincare101> ikonia: Packages, and, I think I'm running 11.x what "cache policy" command do you want me to ruN?
[22:43] <ikonia> poincare101: you're running 11.10
[22:43] <Zaitzev> wieso: Doesn't look like Banshee will work. It doesn't allow passing of the url or something like that.
[22:43] <wylde> dan3son: also have a look at man find, to tweak that.
[22:43] <ikonia> poincare101: and as I've just shown you the version in the 11.10 repo is 2.13-20ubuntu5.1 but for some reason your machine thinks it's 2.13-20ubuntu5
[22:43] <ikonia> poincare101: that's what's causing the conflict
[22:44] <wieso> Zaitzev: then i dont know, sry
[22:44] <Zaitzev> wieso: Btw, streamtuner2 works alright. I don't have a comparison but it's all I need. About the player, I'll reinstall audacious :)
[22:44] <dan3son> Thanks, worked
[22:45] <Zaitzev> oh wait, Banshee worked after all. Hm. Alrighty, I'll keep that then.
[22:45] <wieso> Zaitzev: :)
[22:45] <wieso> dan3son: find ~/ -type f -name thumbs.db | xargs -i rm {};
[22:45] <wieso> dan3son: ah, okay, u found a solution
[22:46] <wieso> Zaitzev: )
[22:46] <poincare101> ikonia: so, what would I do?
[22:46] <wylde> wieso: find has a built in -delete action, no need for exec :)
[22:46] <ikonia> poincare101: we need to figure out why, normally it's a PPA that has a package that has a version hardcoded to depend on it, or a repo that's out of date
[22:47] <wieso> wylde: see above :)
[22:47] <ikonia> poincare101: give me a short while, I'm just in the middle of something, then I can give you some proper attention
[22:47] <f> Hi! Do you guys know how the application that automatically connects to WiFis in ubuntu is called? I think it's simply called gnome network manager or something.
[22:47] <poincare101> ikonia: alright.
[22:47] <CFHowlett> f nm network manager
[22:47] <f> i see
[22:47] <f> thansk
[22:49] <diverdude> anybody know if there is a reliable ppa for ubuntu with php5.4?
[22:49] <Mike9863> I accidentally enabled some feature that turns on icons in buttons and menus. How can I disable this?
[22:50] <wieso> Mike9863: where do u see this? Nautilus?
[22:51] <Mike9863> wieso: I don't remember where I enabled it, that's the problem.
[22:55] <diverdude> anybody know if there is a reliable ppa for ubuntu with php5.4?
[22:58] <zykotick9> diverdude: "reliable" and "ppa" don't belong in the same sentense ;)
[22:59] <CyberKnet> I installed desktop edition and since decided I don't need the gui ... is it sufficient to run sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop to remove all things related to the gui?
[23:00] <CyberKnet> it doesn't seem to pull in any other packages to be removed...
[23:00] <ciscoftw> trying to run 'x' via ssh, everything i'm read indicates i need to edit a tcp listener via '/etc/gdm' but that directory path does not exist on my build (ubuntu 11.10) ...i've exported the display, when i echo $DISPLAY it returns :0
[23:00] <xterminator> is there a good list of Ubuntu-compatible programs somewhere?
[23:00] <salvino> hi all
[23:00] <cryptotheslow> CyberKnet: ubuntu-desktop is just a wrapper
[23:01] <zykotick9> CyberKnet: see the !pureFOO factoid for some possible hints - i'll send one
[23:01] <CFHowlett> salvino   greetings
[23:01] <zykotick9> cryptotheslow: s/wrapper/meta package/
[23:01] <salvino> i have a problem with the reboot
[23:01] <CFHowlett> xterminator   software center
[23:01] <zykotick9> !purgekde | CyberKnet
[23:01] <zykotick9> !purekde | CyberKnet
[23:01] <haz3lnut> ciscoftw: when you ssh, you type ssh -Y .... ?
[23:01] <xterminator> CFHowlett: every compatible program is in there?
[23:01] <cryptotheslow> thanks zykotick9 - couldn't think of the right name for it :)
[23:01] <zeromission> my isp blocks port 25, but my shell account hosts smtp on port 25 how can i setup a portforward on the shellaccount that forwards port 2000 to 25 on localhost? i cant figure out the ssh command could someone give me an example of this?
[23:02] <CFHowlett> xterminator   every program that is in the Ubuntu repository is there
[23:02] <CyberKnet> zykotick9: I don't want a gui at all.
[23:02] <xterminator> CFHowlett: well i need to find out whether every program i have can be run on ubuntu or not
[23:02] <ciscoftw> haz: i already have ssh shell on this computer.... didnt use any ssh parameters to access box.
[23:02] <xterminator> or every major program i have
[23:03] <CyberKnet> !pureconsole | CyberKnet
[23:03] <ciscoftw> huh, but looking via putty it shows 'x11 forwarding' as enabled
[23:03] <CFHowlett> xterminator   software center programs will run and are the best source.  NON-software center programs have no such guarantee.
[23:03] <xterminator> ok
[23:03] <xterminator> thanks CFHowlett
[23:03] <CFHowlett> xterminator  have fun / be safe
[23:04] <xterminator> haha
[23:04] <salvino> i have a problem with the reboot. when I reboot the PC, without going through the boot, it goes to the login
[23:04] <salvino> i have a problem with the reboot. when I reboot the PC it goes to the login without going through the boot
[23:04] <CFHowlett> salvino   do you have only 1 OS installed?
[23:05] <haz3lnut> ciscoftw: I think I understand that you want to ssh to another machine and have an X11 program show on your local screen.  If that's correct, you type ssh -Y remotehost.com
[23:05] <diverdude> zykotick9: i just want to have a php5.4 on my system that works!
[23:05] <salvino> CFHowlett, yes, i have 1 OS installed
[23:06] <CFHowlett> salvino sounds like you've set your system preferences to boot you automatically.  What version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:06] <salvino> excuse me, when I turn off the PC, it goes to the login without going through the boot
[23:06] <R33p3r> hallpo
[23:06] <R33p3r> hallo *
[23:07] <salvino> CFHowlett, i have 11.10
[23:07] <CFHowlett> salvino   wait, you mean shutdown won't shutdown?
[23:07] <gurgalof> how do you X11 forward the entire desktop?
[23:07] <gurgalof> I know how to do single programs
[23:07] <salvino> CFHowlett, exactly
[23:08] <CFHowlett> salvino   and you're *shutting down* not *logging out*?
[23:08] <salvino> CFHowlett, yes
[23:09] <kffess> salvino are you pressing the power button?
[23:09] <roland_>  #bioinfo.fr
[23:10] <salvino> kffess, no, i turn off the PCI as it normally
[23:11] <kffess> what happens with the command "shutdown -h now"?
[23:12] <salvino> i haven't tried, kffess
[23:13] <kffess> try and see, salvino
[23:13] <salvino> but i wont that it work
[23:16] <rtdos> am having a problem loading (and closing) apps on kubuntu: some (most) apps seem to take awhile to either load or shutdown. like there is something running in the background or waiting for something to close. i ran all the necessary tests, including fsck and still have this issue.
[23:17] <salvino> hi
[23:17] <_mcs_>  /sb start
[23:18] <salvino> the commando work, but the button no
[23:20] <Krenair> How do I get the latest stable thunderbird in Ubuntu 11.04
[23:20] <Krenair> ?
[23:20] <Krenair> (Properly, through the package manager.)
[23:21] <cryptotheslow> Krenair: take a look at https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable
[23:22] <cryptotheslow> especially the "Read about installing" link
[23:23] <douglaslucas> hi
[23:24] <douglaslucas> I was executing "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" and it hung on a Microsoft font EULA. I waited 20-30 minutes, still hung. So I closed terminal, reopened, executed the same command. Get two errors messages now:
[23:24] <douglaslucas> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:24] <douglaslucas> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:24] <douglaslucas> suggestions? :(
[23:25] <Yukiteru> douglaslucas, reboot the system
[23:25] <douglaslucas> and then?
[23:25] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: did you agree to the EULA or just look at it for 30 mintes?
[23:26] <mneptok> douglaslucas: it did not hang. it was waiting for you to accept that agreement
[23:26] <douglaslucas> I couldn't figure out any way to agree to the EULA. Tried hitting Enter, Y, clicking, etc.
[23:26] <douglaslucas> oops :(
[23:26] <Yukiteru> douglaslucas, reboot the system
[23:26] <Yukiteru> and execute the command again
[23:26] <douglaslucas> the agreement was appearing in the terminal
[23:26] <Dbm> Hello guys, ive need help. When i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS i bootup via USB, all works fine till i get in narea to clear whole HDD and install fresh system. I got some Warning about /dev/sda msdos or something.
[23:26] <mneptok> douglaslucas: did you try the up/down scroll keys?
[23:27] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: I think you have to use Tab to move around the EULA prompts if irc
[23:27] <gurgalof> reading a Microsoft EULA maybe takes 30minutes+ :D
[23:27] <douglaslucas> yes, I was able to scroll up and down the agreement, but that didn't help
[23:27] <douglaslucas> gurgalof: lol :)
[23:27] <wylde> !precise | Dbm
[23:27] <douglaslucas> Ok, I'll try to be more creative this time trying to accept the EULA. (I wasn't just sitting there, I ran an errand ;) )
[23:27] <Dbm> ty
[23:29] <wolfric> should grep --exclude-dir=ignorethisdir -Ri test . not work? This looks quite to me according to the grep man page
[23:31] <haz3lnut> never saw this before "/dev/zram0" it's 4.2 GB. I searched google, not much help. blkid shows it's a swap drive.  disk utility shows it;s a solid state disk. mount shows nothing.  Can someone shed light on this new device?
[23:34] <unperson> Hi.  I'm trying to settle on photo management software to use (on my Linux desktop).  The key requirements are that it: 1) Reasonably robust support for tagging photos (ability to add, remove, or modify tags on many photos at a time), 2) tags stored in some way that would be reasonably feasible to export to other software (i.e., no lock-in), 3) support within the organizer for keeping both the original of a photo and a modified vers
[23:34] <unperson> ion, 4) a way from within the program to open a photo with an external application (e.g., gimp).  Suggestions?
[23:34] <douglaslucas> okay, I rebooted and re-ran "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-editors"
[23:34] <majorastro> how do I get the classic desktop on ubuntu
[23:34] <douglaslucas> got this response in terminal: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:34] <wylde> haz3lnut: just taking a shot in the dark, have you been using any ram disks for anything?
[23:35] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: did you try the suggested command there?
[23:35] <douglaslucas> crypto: no, about to
[23:35] <cryptotheslow> ok :)
[23:36] <wylde> haz3lnut: something like http://shmilyxbq-compcache.googlecode.com/hg/README ?
[23:36] <haz3lnut> wylde: no
[23:37] <loculinux> kjasdkljfds
[23:37] <loculinux> clear
[23:37] <darky123> hello guys
[23:37] <douglaslucas> now it's installing more parts of the package. I wonder what happens to the microsoft font one?
[23:38] <Praxi> hmm how do I install a nightly build of gimp
[23:38] <haz3lnut> wylde: so this isn't standard ubuntu?  Why did it show up on my system, and what package may be repsonsible is my question.
[23:38] <kffess> unperson - Picasa?
[23:39] <wylde> haz3lnut: trying to figure that out. That readme seems to decsribe what you're saying yes?
[23:39] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: you may want to purge and reinstall it once it's completed just to make sure.
[23:39] <wylde> haz3lnut: dpkg -l | grep zram maybe?
[23:39] <haz3lnut> wylde: yes, but it doesn;t show up in mount
[23:40] <Zaitzev> any way to adjust the mouse sensitivity even lower, when the sliders are at the bottom in settings?
[23:40] <unperson> kffess, I've tried Picasa.  Managing tags was clunky, wasn't clear to me they'd be portable.  And I don't think they made it so easy to edit in an external program.
[23:40] <haz3lnut> wylde: null
[23:40] <darky123> i have backtrack 5 and i dont know where to start .i want you to tell me if there is any site that can help me to learn more about terminal
[23:40] <wylde> haz3lnut: yeah, maybe searching Ubuntu pacakges on launchpad for zram might show it as a dependancy of something
[23:40] <Bluemalkin> hi - how often does ubuntu server go apt-get update by itself and where is it configured ?
[23:41] <GhostConn> anyone frimilar with plymouth manager?
[23:42] <darky123> does anyone know anything about creation(hacking)?
[23:42] <douglaslucas1> sorry, wifi disconnected randomly
[23:43] <douglaslucas1> cryptotheslow: purge and reinstall the whole-restricted-extras ?
[23:43] <wylde> haz3lnut: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zram-config is all is see on launchpad. It's for Precise i386 only though as far as I can see.
[23:44] <haz3lnut> wylde: yeah, I saw that, but I'm running 11.10
[23:44] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: guess so unless you just do the ms-font package alone
[23:44] <wylde> haz3lnut: any chance it came from a PPA?
[23:44] <douglaslucas> crypto: I'll just purge and reinstall...what are the commands for that?
[23:44] <haz3lnut> so to be clear, does no one else here have /dev/zram0 as a swap device?
[23:44] <wylde> haz3lnut: maybe something involving high speed compression of any sort?
[23:45] <haz3lnut> wylde: I got some PPAs... lemme see.
[23:45] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: sudo apt-get purge ~packagename~
[23:45] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, what does /dev/zram0 do?
[23:46] <wylde> haz3lnut: dpkg -l would list packages even from the ppa's yes? did you try 'dpkg -l | grep zram' ?
[23:46] <haz3lnut> wylde: yes, it comes back null
[23:46] <wylde> haz3lnut: bugger ...hmm
[23:47] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: it's installed as a 4.2 GB swap disk, and it doesn;t show up in mount
[23:47] <itaylor57> it be a ramdisk methinks
[23:47] <quiescens> zram is an in-memory compressed block device thingy
[23:48] <wylde> itaylor57: yep, we're trying to figure out how it got there. :)
[23:48] <haz3lnut> quiescens: yes it is, I'm trying to figure out where it came from and why it;s installed.
[23:48] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, i have enought ram to not use swap, and i've put /tmp in ram
[23:48] <gurgalof> 8GB on a laptop is enough for most
[23:48] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: I have 8gigs
[23:49] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, tell me why compressed swap ram thingy?
[23:49] <wylde> looks to me like there's a package in the works in precise to use zram as tmp, at the package page I linked earlier
[23:50] <haz3lnut> hmm, I have the backports ppa active.  I forget why.
[23:50] <haz3lnut> must be from there
[23:51] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: purge said "ubuntu-restricted-extras is not installed, so not removed" then installed the font package (including giving me the EULA, which I defeated this time).
[23:52] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: so I wonder if the other, non-font parts of ubuntu-restricted-extras are installed?
[23:52] <haz3lnut> wylde, gurgalof, I activated PPA backports to install kubuntu 4.8 to try it out.  It must have also installed the zram device.
[23:52] <haz3lnut> wylde: so apparently I'm running with a 4.2 GB swap drive in RAM!
[23:52] <haz3lnut> what's the point in that?
[23:53] <gurgalof> usefulness in my point, ZERO
[23:53] <wylde> haz3lnut: ahh alrighty, speed. RAM is exponentially faster than disk swap
[23:53] <gurgalof> but swap in ram defeats swap
[23:53] <haz3lnut> really
[23:54] <quiescens> its compressed
[23:54] <wylde> gurgalof: yep, seems redundant but it's the onbly real reason I could think of
[23:54] <quiescens> compressed in ram is still faster than disk in most cases
[23:54] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: give a minute, I'll install it here
[23:54] <KBentley57> why not just use the ram as ram?
[23:54] <quiescens> to my knowledge the in memory swap is or was used by default on some of the livecd like environments when no swap is detected
[23:54] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: thanks
[23:55] <haz3lnut> exactly, so the question becomes, how do I remove zram?  I tried sudo apt-get remove zram, but it's not a package.
[23:56] <haz3lnut> apt-cache search zram shows nothing
[23:56] <wylde> haz3lnut: zram-config?
[23:56] <douglaslucas> hmm pidgin /whois doesn't show if I'm +z or not
[23:56] <douglaslucas> but I think I connected via SSL
[23:56] <haz3lnut> nope
[23:57] <haz3lnut> so maybe create a swap drive?
[23:57] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: you have no swap, right?
[23:57] <kion> how do I get my contacts from Ubuntu One sinchronized with Thunderbird?
[23:57] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: what does....    dpkg -s ubuntu-restricted-extras    say?
[23:57] <wylde> I honestly don't know, unless there's something running at boot to create it, it would be lost between reboots.
[23:57] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, nope
[23:57] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: what doe blkid show you?
[23:58] <quiescens> the whole no swap thingy is silly anyway
[23:58] <gurgalof> haz3lnut, nothing at all
[23:58] <douglaslucas> cryptotheslow: Package `ubuntu-restricted-extras' is not installed and no info is available.
[23:58] <haz3lnut> gurgalof: well it should show you all of your drives.
[23:58] <quiescens> i would have a quick look at init files as to which one loads the zram kernel module
[23:58] <gurgalof> quiescens, i do not want swap on my SSD
[23:58] <cryptotheslow> douglaslucas: hmm comes back as Package: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:58] <cryptotheslow> Status: install ok installed
[23:58] <cryptotheslow>  here
[23:59] <quiescens> probably grep -r zram /etc