[02:27] <Moniker42> hey, i tried to add a couple of startup apps to system > prefs > sessions but when i close the window they are removed from the list
[02:28] <rabidsnail> Beta-guy: Who wants to go to the store and buy a movie when you can have it streamed into your living room?
[02:28] <ztomic> rabidsnail: VOD! yup!
[02:28] <scipio> ibook, primary if it allows you
[02:28] <HHP2K> Or rather.. pastebin
[02:28] <jrib> Boomh4u3r: please, don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org instead.  flashplugin-nonfree is in the Multiverse repository.  Go to system -> administration -> software sources  and enable multiverse.  Ubotu sent you a link with easy instructions for installing flash that you should read
[02:28] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: ... and *please* don't paste onto the channel, use the pastebin instead.
[02:28] <ibook> then location for system partition....:"Beginning" or "End" ?
[02:28] <Boomh4u3r> sorry
[02:29] <ztomic> VOD=Video On Demand BTW
[02:29] <linux_user400354> I have 2 dual layer dvd burners and I want to use them both at once for burning. do I have to run 2 instances of k3b to do that?
[02:29] <Dr_Link> I used ls to make sure that I was in the right directory.
[02:29] <Beta-guy> rabidsnail: if we were to depend on the internet for our HD movies lag would be a pain  plus stopping ever 5 seconds to buffer would kill HD internet movie the bandwidth isn't fast enough yet
[02:29] <HHP2K> I love this place.. so different compared to the deviantart chat rooms. If a moderator is in there, you're not allowed to re-post the channel rules, the mods do that. And.. sometimes they don't.
[02:29] <nerwo> is Compiz not available through the add/remove programs window (meaning I must use synaptics or the good old apt-get way)
[02:29] <sirjoshimus> audour wont start for me
[02:29] <Rafaell> can't stat the server X, no screens found , what can i do for this ?
[02:29] <HHP2K> Here, people just jump on everyone
[02:29] <h1st0> linux_user400354: probably
[02:29] <Dr_Link> But after typing the program's name (a.out) nothing happened.
[02:29] <sirjoshimus> says JACK isnt there
[02:29] <sirjoshimus> but it is
[02:30] <Rafaell> can't start the server X, no screens found , what can i do for this ?
[02:30] <h1st0> Rafaell: what kind of video card do you hav?
[02:30] <pike_> Dr_Link: ./a.out  ?
[02:30] <Dr_Link> Yes.
[02:30] <Rafaell> ati radeon
[02:30] <h1st0> !patience | Rafaell
[02:30] <Dr_Link> I gcc compiled it.
[02:30] <ubotu> Rafaell: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:30] <h1st0> !ati | Rafaell
[02:30] <ubotu> Rafaell: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <ztomic> Beta-guy: remember when 14.4 KB was fast?
[02:30] <Dr_Link> But the problem? It tells me "no such command"
[02:30] <HHP2K> Rafaell: Get to the command line and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:30] <Sensae> Hello
[02:30] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:30] <Dr_Link> So... what's up here? I can't execute it.
[02:30] <Beta-guy> ztomic: thought 2400 baud was fast at one point
[02:30] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, my new Seagate harddrive won't mount. can someone help pls?
[02:30] <Boomh4u3r> ok i enabled universe and multiverse
[02:30] <h1st0> Dr_Link: do you have gcc installed?
[02:31] <ztomic> Beta-guy: Damn!  youre older than me!
[02:31] <Pici> Dr_Link: is it set as an executable, chmod +x a.out?
[02:31] <Smegzor> I'm following an ubuntu newbie guide for mounting a shared folder at boot.  It mentions having a local shared folder in /media (mine is called shared).  However when I try to mount to /media/shared it tells me it is not a block device.  Should I just mount in /mnt or should /media work?
[02:31] <Beta-guy> lol
[02:31] <h1st0> Boomh4u3r: now use synaptci and add flashplugin-nonfree
[02:31] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[02:31] <Sensae> I have a TrendNET PCI gigabit ethernet card, and Trendnet supplies source for drivers, but I'm not sure how to compile them / get them working. Could someone help
[02:31] <rabidsnail> Beta-guy: No bandwidth isn't fast enough in the US yet. Most people don't watch movies in HD either.
[02:31] <Dr_Link> h1st0: How do you think I made the executable?
[02:31] <Dr_Link> :P
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> Guys!
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> I have found something SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cool
[02:31] <ibook> If I want to create the OS partition, should I choose "Use as:" ext3, ext2, reiserfs, or......???
[02:31] <Pici> Smegzor: Sounds like you're reversing the device and the mountpoint in your mount command.
[02:31] <Dr_Link> Pici: Well it says in the file manager it's executable
[02:31] <Fox[work] > What is the point of this Long Term Support iso? compared to the original iso?
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> Wanna know what?
[02:32] <HHP2K> Yes, yes!
[02:32] <Pici> ibook: ext3
[02:32] <Falstius> ibook: ext3 is the most common
[02:32] <Rafaell> but i have tryed this, at the 1 moment the screen turn black, at 2 moment i have downloaded the driver, and now cant find the screens, the busID
[02:32] <pike_> Dr_Link: can you pastebin the text.c ??
[02:32] <h1st0> ibook: thats up to you but I would use ext
[02:32] <HHP2K> Is it ice!?
[02:32] <Smegzor> Possible. I am a newbie afterall :)
[02:32] <Dr_Link> The .c file?
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> HHP2K: A human Theme for....
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> WINDOWS
[02:32] <hoarycripple> ok, well, i think that the line drawing error is because of utf-8 locales.  how can I change that?
[02:32] <Pici> Smegzor: I'm not and I do it all the time :)
[02:32] <Boomh4u3r> its not there
[02:32] <Dr_Link> or the terminal output?
[02:32] <cafuego> Dr_Link: Yeah, go on, be opn source ;-)
[02:32] <Smegzor> you were right
[02:32] <HHP2K> ... nice!
[02:32] <Smegzor> I am a dummy :P
[02:32] <pike_> ibook: i use ext3 for / and home usually and xfs for /tmp
[02:32] <madman91> i installed a cli version of ubuntu.. how do i make it turn on network interfaces at boot?
[02:32] <h1st0> Rafaell: lspci | grep VGA
[02:32] <lashmoove> if I install a .deb from getdeb while I am in a kernel, when I reboot into another kernel, will that app be exactly the same?
[02:32] <Dr_Link> It's a simple hello world program.
[02:32] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> Wanna have the link?
[02:32] <HHP2K> are the taskbars the same height?
[02:32] <ztomic> Beta-guy: I used to put the handset in a cradle to  connect to UT mainframe when I took Basic in high school. It was probably slower than 2400. 1979.
[02:32] <Dr_Link> I'm learning C remember?
[02:32] <h1st0> Rafaell: you can get the busid
[02:33] <Sensae> Could anyone help me compile this driver I have into a module?
[02:33] <Moniker42> hey, i tried to add a couple of startup apps to system > prefs > sessions but when i close the window they are removed from the list
[02:33] <Dr_Link> It's a printf("Hello World"); return 0; program. That's all there is in the main function.
[02:33] <Drk_Guy> http://fioressj.deviantart.com/art/Human-for-Windows-37743373
[02:33] <nerwo> fax[work]  LTS receives support for 3 years, the other one only till the next ubuntu release (schedules for october)
[02:33] <Rafaell> how can i edit the fglrx driver ?
[02:33] <Moniker42> hey, i tried to add a couple of startup apps to system > prefs > sessions but when i close the window they are removed from the list - why is that happening? how else can i add programs to start at startup?
[02:33] <Pici> !offtopic | Dr_Link
[02:33] <ubotu> Dr_Link: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:33] <Pici> Dr_Link: Sorry, that was to Drk_Guy
[02:33] <cafuego> Dr_Link: You know you can shorten that app? :-)
[02:33] <chump> can someone help me get root on my computer please ? i got a syntax error on my sudoers file :S
[02:33] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:33] <cafuego> Dr_Link: return printf("Hi world\n");
[02:33] <Dr_Link> cafuego: That's not my problem, but I'll ask later.
[02:34] <Beta-guy> ztomic I was born in 1983 if you were in high school in 1979 your older then me
[02:34] <Dr_Link> ...mmm...
[02:34] <Dr_Link> Anyway.
[02:34] <StarQuest>  running ubuntu 7.04.  at random times, the system will freeze for a second or two.  it just sort of "catches" momentarily, then goes back to working normally.  any idea?
[02:34] <astro76> nerwo, Fox[work]  non-LTS is actually supported for 18 months I believe
[02:34] <cafuego> Dr_Link: if you have 'manpages-dev' installd, they contain manuals for the libc api.
[02:34] <pike_> chump: boot into recovery mode and 'passwd root' then reboot. then you can set about fixing sudoers
[02:34] <HHP2K> Human theme for windows is hitting digg... now
[02:34] <ztomic> Beta-guy: I'm old enough to be your daddy.\
[02:34] <Dr_Link> ...I just want to run the a.out program it just compiled!! >_>
[02:34] <ibook> what's this business of "Primary" vs "Logical" for partition type, and "Beginning" vs "End" for location??? I have no clue...I'm from the Windows (Dark) side
[02:34] <buntunub> StarQuest try running without beryl/compiz
[02:35] <cafuego> Dr_Link: ./a.out
[02:35] <StarQuest> buntunub: i'm not running either of those
[02:35] <Dr_Link> mmmk...
[02:35] <h1st0> StarQuest: maybe check dmesg or /var/syslog see whats goign on when it freezes
[02:35] <Dr_Link> Sweet, it worked.
[02:35] <matty_1> Hi - I cannot get WPA working on my 7.04 Laptop - I have followed the steps in the wiki and still cannot see my WPA network - can anyone assist?
[02:35] <Sensae> Anyone know how I could compile this driver's source into a module? It errors out when I do make clean modules
[02:35] <Dr_Link> Be back later.
[02:35] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:35] <Pici> StarQuest: You could keep a terminal with top running open or keep gnome-system-monitor open to see if something is spiking the CPU at those times
[02:35] <cafuego> have fun :-)
[02:35] <pike_> ibook: you can only have 4 primary partitions. linux will work on logical partitions but windows wont i think.  just bear the limit in mind if youre planning on alot of OSs installed
[02:35] <chump> ok thanks pike_ boot or a login in failsafe will do ?
[02:36] <jcs7778> is there a way to configure toutch pads on laptops?
[02:36] <atoms2> I just altered xorg.conf how dow I restart the x server?
[02:36] <Smegzor> I now have my shared mounted /media/shared but when I reload fstab I get "you specified and invalid share name"
[02:36] <StarQuest> Pici: when i've got the system monitor open, it doesn't ever do it
[02:36] <scipio> ibook, if that partition is for an OS to boot from you'd want it to be primary
[02:36] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:36] <Pici> StarQuest: hmm.. thats very odd
[02:36] <h1st0> !patience | Beyond_The_Grave
[02:36] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: have you tried unmounting it before gpart?
[02:36] <ubotu> Beyond_The_Grave: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:36] <luddite> Hey all - I have a G3 mac powerbook with only functioning usb. it can connect to the internet via cable modem fine. but i cant connect it via the usb to my windows / ubuntu dual boot desktop and share the internet between the two(i want the desktop to be the master)
[02:36] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yes, like I said it isn't mounted and it can't get mounted for some reason.
[02:36] <pike_> chump: i dunno. i think failsafe is just a single user shell so that will let ya enable root so you can reboot and su instead of sudo until you get it fixed.  after its fixed just sudo passwd -l root  to disable the account again
[02:37] <jrib> Boomh4u3r: what's not there?
[02:37] <h1st0> luddite: you need to connect it via lan or wifi
[02:37] <chump> ok
[02:37] <cafuego> luddite: I'm pretty sure net-ovr-usb isn' a normally supported thing
[02:37] <cafuego> luddite: via firewire would work, but not usb.
[02:37] <lashmoove>  if I install a .deb from getdeb while I am in a kernel, when I reboot into another kernel, will that app be exactly the same?
[02:37] <Boomh4u3r> flashplugin-nonfree....its not coming up when i search for it in synaptic
[02:37] <Smegzor> the start of my fstab line for this is //<IP_ADDRESS>/shared      /media/shared   The share is mounted ok.  How is this invalid?  There is more to the fstab entry of course.
[02:37] <luddite> ah ok - firewide and ethernet dont function on the old G3
[02:37] <pike_> chump: once ya got root just come back here and pastebin the sudoers file somone here can correct it for ya
[02:38] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: make sure it's not mounted.
[02:38] <hoarycripple> do i need to install non-UTF-8 locales?  or are they installed by default?
[02:38] <StarQuest> cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[02:38] <ztomic> hehe
[02:38] <jrib> Boomh4u3r: did you install the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[02:38] <h1st0> Boomh4u3r: you need to enable universe and multiverse
[02:38] <Beyond_The_Grave> It isn't.
[02:38] <StarQuest> does this mean anything?
[02:38] <Boomh4u3r> that is enabled
[02:38] <jk-> hey folks
[02:38] <chump> pike_:  thanks but i know what i did wrong ;)
[02:38] <jrib> !who | Boomh4u3r
[02:38] <ubotu> Boomh4u3r: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:38] <Beyond_The_Grave> But how do i check that real quick.
[02:38] <luddite> I guess i will need a router then huh
[02:38] <Boomh4u3r> um..i believe this is the amd64 version
[02:38] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: Did you hit the 'refresh' button in synaptic after you enabled them?
[02:38] <matty_1> Anyone know a good program to extract rar files on ubuntu
[02:38] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: #mount
[02:38] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: Ah ok, there is no amd64 flash.
[02:38] <jk-> anyone know of ubuntu repos for cross gcc packages ?
[02:38] <h1st0> Boomh4u3r: then there is no flashplugin-nonfree
[02:38] <jrib> !rar > matty_1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:38] <Smegzor> Should I unmount the share before reloading fstab?
[02:39] <matty_1> cheers
[02:39] <Beyond_The_Grave> Nope.
[02:39] <matty_1> Hi - I cannot get WPA working on my 7.04 Laptop - I have followed the steps in the wiki and still cannot see my WPA network - can anyone assist?
[02:39] <jvai> i hate tmobile wifi... well, in this starbuks anyways
[02:39] <K3nto> !sh
[02:40] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:40] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: you could try fdisk
[02:40] <jrib> Boomh4u3r: if you are new to ubuntu, you should use the regular version of ubuntu because a lot of the proprietary stuff is going to be a hassle for you.  For flash on amd64, Adobe doesn't really care and no one else can do anything about it
[02:40] <K3nto> how do i start an sh file?
[02:40] <Moniker42> hey, i tried to add a couple of startup apps to system > prefs > sessions but when i close the window they are removed from the list - why is that happening? how else can i add programs to start at startup?
[02:40] <cafuego> K3nto: sh ./file.sh
[02:40] <ibook> crap, just got an error while using the "Guided - resize" HD option...
[02:40] <h1st0> K3nto: ./ or bash
[02:40] <pike_> Boomh4u3r: the only compelling reason for 64bit is geeky pride or a real need for a single process to address more than 4 gig ram
[02:40] <Beyond_The_Grave> Ok, it shows up there.
[02:40] <jrib> Moniker42: what does this command return: ls -ld ~/.config ~/.config/autostart/
[02:40] <ibook> Error dialog box says "Resize operation failure"
[02:40] <n2diy> K3nto: type its name, if you are in the same directory, us ./filename, qsl?
[02:41] <Moniker42> jrib, drwx------ 7 sean sean 4096 2007-03-22 23:35 /home/sean/.config
[02:41] <Moniker42> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-13 21:22 /home/sean/.config/autostart/
[02:41] <Beyond_The_Grave> Now what?
[02:41] <jrib> Moniker42: run this as sean: sudo chown $USER: ~/.config/autostart/
[02:41] <pike_> K3nto: also you can open the file in a text editor the the first line will have a #!/ if it says bash or whatever you can do bash file.sh
[02:42] <Smegzor> I fixed my fstab problem.  I had moved my share from /mnt to /media and not recreated the share in system/admin/shared folders.
[02:42] <K3nto> i get this error: Where would you like to install the Vendetta executable? [/root/bin]  read: 70: arg count
[02:42] <K3nto> /root/bin does not exist!
[02:42] <K3nto> Create it? [yn]  read: 70: arg count
[02:42] <K3nto> ill pastebin next toime sorry
[02:42] <dethdeks> hey tomb
[02:42] <dethdeks> :P
[02:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> Hey ztomic, it showed up in fdisk... what do I do?
[02:42] <rob_1311> anyone here got any experience with a wiimote and ubuntu
[02:42] <matty_1> Hi - I cannot get WPA working on my 7.04 Laptop - I have followed the steps in the wiki and still cannot see my WPA network - can anyone assist?
[02:42] <xeer> hi guys, i have what i hope to be a simple question.. running feisty fawn with the nonfree ati driver for my X1600. beryl is installed along with xgl, no problems there. the problem is that beryl isnt active even though i've logged in through my beryl session
[02:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> Matty what kind of card do you have?
[02:43] <pike_> !lrda | rob_1311
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lrda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <Moniker42> jrib, sure about that?
[02:43] <Moniker42> jrib, i've had a couple of bad experiences with chown is all...
[02:43] <pike_> !IrDA | rob_1311 heh
[02:43] <ubotu> rob_1311 heh: Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[02:43] <saimon> bon je commence a en avoir marre
[02:43] <tatsujin> would anyone have a clue what could be the problem with my beryl?
[02:43] <jrib> Moniker42: ~/.config/autostart/ is currently owned by root, it's supposed to be owned by your user (sean)
[02:43] <saimon> pourquoi c'est pas simple avec ati :)
[02:43] <Moniker42> saimon, !fr
[02:43] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: you want to format it to fat32 right?
[02:43] <Moniker42> !fr | saimon
[02:43] <ubotu> saimon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:44] <lashmoove>  if I install a .deb from getdeb while I am in a kernel, when I reboot into another kernel, will that app be exactly the same?
[02:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yes.
[02:44] <explody> I've got a usplash theme that is complaining about "no usable theme for 640x480" when I shut down, except the system is at 1024x768, and the same theme works fine on startup.  does this sound like a system problem or a theme problem?
[02:44] <rob_1311> actually the my problem is with the input driver?
[02:44] <tatsujin> i should mention i had it working fine on edge, once i updated to feisty fawn my beryl stopped working
[02:44] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: do you need anything that's on it now?
[02:44] <seanj_> does anyone know how I get TCL development files so I can build an eggdrop?
[02:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> Nope.
[02:44] <Moniker42> jrib, okay it works now
[02:44] <scipio> tatsujin, did you enable desktop effects?
[02:44] <jrib> seanj_: eggdrop is in ubuntu's universe, no need to build it
[02:44] <Moniker42> jrib, thanks. sorry for the suspicion but i had to do a reinstall after someone told me to chown /var ;)
[02:44] <seanj_> jrib: great, thanks!!
[02:45] <jk-> seanj_: why build it when you can just 'apt-get install eggdrop' ?
[02:45] <Beyond_The_Grave> Just please don't say gparted, cause I've tried and it doesn't work.
[02:45] <rexbron> is anyone else unable to access cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[02:45] <jk-> snap
[02:45] <jrib> Moniker42: np, it's good to ask.  You should be wary of recursive things because those are almost impossible to undo
[02:45] <tatsujin> scipio: that would happen to be under what option?
[02:45] <pike_> rob_1311: i wouldnt be much help with that. id check in #mythtv-users maybe im sure they have alot of exp
[02:45] <seanj_> jk-: I forgot to do my homework!
[02:46] <seanj_> jk-: I should have searched first
[02:46] <scipio> tatsujin, system-preferences-desktop effects
[02:46] <matty_1> can anyone give me a link on the wiki to help setup my soundcard (i have a hp pavillion laptop running 7.04)
[02:46] <jk-> 'apt-cache search' is your friend :)
[02:46] <lashmoove> anyone?.... if I install a .deb from getdeb while I am in a kernel, when I reboot into another kernel, will that app be exactly the same?
[02:46] <Beyond_The_Grave> Ztomic, you going to tell me how to do it?
[02:46] <SEppl> im bored.. is there any channel in this network i should check out?  IT WORKED FINALLY!!!!
[02:47] <marrvel> hi, does anyone know what uinput is in here?
[02:47] <Beyond_The_Grave> AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[02:47] <lashmoove> n2diy: so i should save myself the guess work, and jump back into the RT kernel and install songbird, install here in the generic kernel
[02:47] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: you still need to format it.
[02:47] <Beyond_The_Grave> I did.
[02:48] <Beyond_The_Grave> That's why I'm happy.
[02:48] <Flannel> lashmoove: it'll be same-ish.  What you do on one kernel sticks around for any other kernel, if that's what your asking.  But the kernel itself might cause differences
[02:48] <ztomic> ok. now be sure to always eject that stick before you pull it out.
[02:48] <scipio> tatsujin, i don't know then sorry. maybe someone else knows or you can try in the other channels. #ubuntu-effects
[02:48] <pzn> how can I configure a grub menu option to boot ubuntu in runlevel 3? already tried "3" at end of boot options but it still boots at runlevel 2. using feisty
[02:48] <Moniker42> jrib, finally i can add mail-notification to startup and stop checking my inbox obsessively
[02:48] <marrvel> hi, does anyone know what uinput is in here?
[02:48] <matty_1> Hi, I cant get my sound working on my HP Pavillion Laptop - Can anyone help me or send me to a link?
[02:48] <Beyond_The_Grave> I did, it was so weird one minute it worked, the next it didn't.... Don't know why...
[02:48] <slowriot> I just tried to install a windows network card driver using ndiswrapper. Now, when I try to boot up, configuring network interfaces causes a soft crash. How do I get Ubuntu working again? I'm using Fesity Fawn.
[02:48] <n2diy> lashmoove: I'm not familiar with Songbird, but if you can afford to exeriment, go for it. But make sure your important stuff is backed up.
[02:49] <dethdeks> what version of hp lappy u got matty?
[02:49] <dethdeks> u may have to do some of ur ubuntu updates
[02:49] <dethdeks> thats what i had to do with mine
[02:49] <lashmoove> flannel: k thanks
[02:49] <matty_1> dethdeks - I've got a hp pavillion zx5000 - what updates did you have to do?
[02:49] <dethdeks> i dont member off hand but just run ur updates
[02:50] <matty_1> ok
[02:50] <dethdeks> n it should fix it
[02:50] <dethdeks> sorry couldnt be more pasific
[02:50] <ztomic> I like the pacific
[02:50] <MrAndrews> Does anyone in here play battlefeild 2142 for 7.4?
[02:50] <matty_1> hmm - yeah - I don't think its that my update manager is up to date - thanks for the help though
[02:51] <at0miku> Hmm I'm having a lot of trouble with samba
[02:51] <scipio> !sound
[02:51] <at0miku> Anybody who knows quite a lot who I can msg?
[02:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:51] <at0miku> (Because this is probably going to take a while)
[02:51] <ztomic> as opposed to specific
[02:51] <Firebird> I'm running Compiz Fusion but it uses gtk-window-decorator instead of emerald. Using emerald --replace makes the borders disappear; what can I do?
[02:52] <at0miku> meh nvm
[02:52] <n2diy> lashmoove: I'm not familiar with Songbird, but if you can afford to exeriment, go for it. But make sure your important stuff is backed up.
[02:52] <paotzu> what version of ubuntu should I use for quad xeon intel, the amd64 one?
[02:52] <theo_> why is my desktop on a cube disabled?
[02:52] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[02:52] <kim__> hey what is gksudo? is it now command?
[02:52] <ztomic> Firebird: I have those problems on cards that dont have enough vid memory.
[02:52] <paotzu> and does dual quad xeon board work?
[02:52] <pzn> found! I have to change /etc/event-d/rc-runlevel to recognize "3" at boot parameters and boot at runlevel 3
[02:52] <luddite> thanks all
[02:53] <luddite> have  fun
[02:53] <luddite> gotta go now.
[02:53] <ztomic> l8r
[02:53] <MC2TS> I can't get ubunto to install-AMD 64 250gig hd (clean ntfs format) 1 gig ram ....the install program keeps locking up (new to unbunto)
[02:53] <Firebird> ztomic: unfortunately, it's a pretty recent pc with an NVidia EN7600 256MB card :s. Thanks for the suggestion though.
[02:53] <DARKGuy> hey guys, I'm tired of having to back up my data everytime I reinstall Ubuntu. I have a 40Gb purely for Ubuntu. I'm a gamer, programmer, tinkerer, hacker, etc., is 30Gb for ~ and 10Gb for / good?
[02:53] <dsl800> hi I'm trying to move stuff onto my ubuntu computer, does anyone have experience with ftp or smb?
[02:54] <jrib> pzn: note that runlevels 2-5 are all the same by default on ubuntu
[02:54] <cloudless_ruin> anybody here
[02:54] <rapid> dsl800: what about ftp
[02:54] <Firebird> cloudless_ruin: just ask your question :)
[02:54] <scipio> Firebird, some suggestions for your problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=367850
[02:54] <Firebird> thanks scipio, I'll check it out :)
[02:54] <cloudless_ruin> i dont have a question
[02:54] <DARKGuy> lol
[02:54] <dsl800> rapid, I'm not sure how to use it. I want to transfer a directory and all it's contents recursively
[02:55] <cloudless_ruin> wait, yeah i do, are there 1066 users in this channel alone?
[02:55] <Firebird> cloudless_ruin: in that case: no, we're all hiding :D
[02:55] <lynn> #radeon
[02:55] <dsl800> rapid, I'm using smb, but it has the same interface as ftp aparently
[02:55] <ztomic> hehe
[02:55] <cloudless_ruin> wait this is a support channel? my volume is too low
[02:55] <cloudless_ruin> the max i mean
[02:55] <zorg> hello, im new to ubuntu, im just using automatrix at the moment, should i let it unmount my NTFS hard drives and remount them withwritable partitions, id there any chance this could cause me to lose any data on them?
[02:56] <dsl800> !automatix
[02:56] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[02:56] <DARKGuy> okay I'm not a hacker j/k but at least tell me if in the future the 10Gb will end up short for root / Ubuntu?
[02:56] <cloudless_ruin> i don't let linux mess with ntfs accept to read
[02:56] <scipio> zorg, if you don't intend to write anything on your ntfs partition then forget then don't make them writeable
[02:56] <ztomic> DARKGuy: 10 gig will be short in the future.
[02:57] <dsl800> zorg: aside from automatix screwing up, that's a safe thing to do
[02:57] <cloudless_ruin> so how to i increase the max volume?
[02:57] <zorg> ok for safety ill not let it do it for now, cheers :)
[02:57] <pike_> DARKGuy: i normally use between 2 and 5 gigs for / but i keep /home on a sep partition.
[02:57] <ipx1> Hi -- I am still having difficulty hooking up my linksys card to this distro.  Anyone here using a Linksys PCMCIA card?  If so, can you help me connect it?
[02:57] <Firebird> I was going to say 6-7 GB is more than enough enough :). I mean if you put home on a separate partition
[02:57] <Firebird> -enough
[02:57] <w4ett> ubotu: give it a rest
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about give it a rest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <dsl800> who knows how to use ftp?
[02:57] <tatsujin> one last question i've been wondering about.. in my beryl manager i never have the grab option to bind mouse events.. could it be my mouse is not recognized?
[02:57] <ipx1> dsl800: I do.
[02:57] <ztomic> I only said what he asked me to say!
[02:57] <theo_> why is my desktop on a cube disabled?
[02:57] <pike_> dsl800: ?
[02:57] <Firebird> dsl800: are you trying to use the command-line ftp client? or do you want a graphical client?
[02:58] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I see - pike_: yeah, I'm trying to do that but since I use beryl and development apps and games (ut2004, wow, regnum), etc. I don't want to be left with no space on / after I've messed so much with my system... 15Gb for / and the rest for home sounds good then?
[02:58] <DARKGuy> Firebird: ^
[02:58] <dsl800> ipx1: how can I transfer a whole directory with it/
[02:58] <matty_1> Hi, I am having trouble getting my sound card to work on 7.04 - I have a HP Pavillion zx5000 laptop - can anyone assist?
[02:58] <rapid> mget?
[02:58] <w4ett> ubotu: funny
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about funny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <ipx1> dsl800:  you have to go inside the directory and use mpget.
[02:58] <ipx1> er..mget
[02:58] <dsl800> Firebird, I'm on dsl linux and command line seems to be all they have
[02:58] <ipx1> example:  mget *
[02:59] <ipx1> You got it?
[02:59] <dsl800> it's actually smb but I think the same commands work
[02:59] <dsl800> ipx1 I'll try it
[02:59] <ipx1> ok
[02:59] <ipx1> btw that is a generic command.
[02:59] <seanj_> ugh, search for files dosnt work
[02:59] <ipx1> are you dl/ing to linux or windows?
[02:59] <ztomic> DARKGuy: depends on partitioning.
[02:59] <Tu3sday> matty_1, do 'lspci | grep audio'
[02:59] <dsl800> ipx1 I thought the * was a wildcard
[02:59] <ipx1> it is...
[03:00] <Firebird> DARKGuy: yeah, sounds reasonable unless you install ut/wow/etc on your home partition of course (if you're the only user)
[03:00] <ipx1> * is covering everything.
[03:00] <erika14212> i guess ill be running ubuntu in 6 weeks
[03:00] <dsl800> ipx1 it's from dsl linux to ubuntu linux
[03:00] <ipx1> ok.
[03:00] <ipx1> linux 2 linux....
[03:00] <ipx1> You're okay.
[03:00] <matty_1> Tu3sday: I recieved: 00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller
[03:00] <dsl800> ipx1 maybe smb isn't the best way to go, but it's the first thing I got to kind of work
[03:00] <theo_> why are my desktop effects not working?
[03:00] <Firebird> erika14212: why in only 6 weeks? :)
[03:00] <ipx1> dsl800:  the best way to do this is with generic commands.
[03:00] <erika14212> no burner so it takes 6 weeks to get one cd
[03:00] <DARKGuy> ztomic: ext3? - Firebird: nobody uses this PC, they don't understand Linux at home XD. Well I guess I won't have much problems then :P
[03:00] <ipx1> dsl800:  use the mget *
[03:00] <BENN92647> flash player 9 is completely screwed up on all my browsers. but my rythmbox works...so its definetly something wrong between flash player and its ability to see my sound output device...can someone help me with this
[03:00] <ipx1> that will take everything.
[03:00] <Firebird> DARKGuy: hehe k :)
[03:01] <ipx1> dsl800: got it?
[03:01] <dethdeks> peece
[03:01] <erika14212> in meantime
[03:01] <lynn> does any one know what dev packages i need to build and install the open source ati driver?
[03:01] <dethdeks> #quit
[03:01] <erika14212> im on windows
[03:01] <Tu3sday> matty_1, so first things first, you've completely ruled out the possibility of the volume being too low right? :p
[03:01] <Firebird> erika14212: my condolences :)
[03:01] <ztomic> DARKGuy: is everything on root partition?
[03:01] <DARKGuy> lmao
[03:01] <dsl800> ipx1: I don't seem to be able to cd to the directory though. I'm at the smb: \> prompt
[03:01] <erika14212> bought one cd
[03:01] <ipx1> ?
[03:01] <erika14212> never got it
[03:01] <ipx1> try chdir
[03:01] <Firebird> wait, bought? you can have them sent for free
[03:01] <matty_1> Tu3sday: correct - volume is up full in alsamixer and not muted
[03:01] <firewing1> Is there an easy way to see who maintains a package?
[03:01] <erika14212> i need it now
[03:01] <erika14212> im on dsl
[03:02] <firewing1> I'm lokoing for the maintainer of fwbackups
[03:02] <ipx1> dsl800: oh wait....you should be able to cd ...
[03:02] <ipx1> dsl800: how is the directory listed?
[03:02] <dsl800> ipx1, how do you list the directory?  I have my data backed up so yeah you can say everything is on the root partition, because it's also the only one except swap.
[03:03] <Firebird> erika14212: you'll be pretty safe with all updates installed and a decent firewall/av scanner
[03:03] <DARKGuy> ztomic: in fact, I'm from the liveCD atm.
[03:03] <dsl800> ipx1, ah, ls shows that I am inside the share on the other computer
[03:03] <ipx1> dsl800: :)
[03:03] <n2diy> firewing1: so, there should still be a readme file in the package.
[03:03] <Firebird> erika14212: and if you don't do anything... dangerous
[03:03] <dsl800> ipx1: so maybe I should use mget?
[03:03] <erika14212> how do i track myy request
[03:03] <Tu3sday> matty_1, what does 'aplay -l' throw back? use pastebin if necessary
[03:03] <ipx1> I would think so...yep.
[03:03] <erika14212> i wud love to know when they get here
[03:03] <dsl800> alright, so can I do mget /mnt/hda1/* ?
[03:03] <Aminowana> hi
[03:04] <ipx1> dsl800: :) yes.  mget *
[03:04] <erika14212> anyone in western new york
[03:04] <firewing1> n2diy, I mean maintains the package for the repositories... I'm the maintainer of the actual software ;)
[03:04] <matty_1> Tu3sday: i'll continue this in PM
[03:04] <ipx1> dsl800: type "bin"
[03:04] <Aminowana> b
[03:04] <Pici> !enter | erika14212
[03:04] <ubotu> erika14212: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:04] <ipx1> dsl800: make sure you're not in ascii mode.
[03:04] <dsl800> command not found :(
[03:04] <ipx1> dsl800: type "bin"
[03:04] <ztomic> DARKGuy: shoot! that problem is fixable.
[03:04] <dsl800> ipx1, it says command not found
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: try "binary" -- these are generic commands btw
[03:05] <DARKGuy> ztomic: oh, really? xD
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: no no....you have to do it in ftp first.
[03:05] <erika14212> im in buffalo ny
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: if you use the generic command....
[03:05] <ztomic> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=546104
[03:05] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I'm tired of having to backup my data anyways :/ having stuff in a ~ partition and just formatting / sounds like a good idea, I've heard that lots of times in this channel
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: from INSIDE ftp....
[03:05] <Mr56k> Do they have a date for Gutsy yet? Or still just sometime on October
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: type in
[03:05] <newbie2> how to change a file permission to user nobody and group nobody?
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: bin
[03:05] <Pici> Mr56k: Sometime in october,
[03:06] <dsl800> ipx1: I'm doing that, it says command not found
[03:06] <ztomic> DARKGuy: google is your friend
[03:06] <erika14212> cause i wud pay shipping for ubuntu
[03:06] <postmortymn> mmm... oktober. gutsy, leopard.. :)
[03:06] <n2diy> firewing1:  whoever builds the package would normally include a readme file, if they don't, your out of luck I guess?
[03:06] <erika14212> for two cds
[03:06] <dsl800> "smb: \>
[03:06] <leafw> any way to use windows' applications that need a key (stored in the register) from within ubuntu, if such apps are not installed in ubuntu but in a windows partition?
[03:06] <dsl800> bin: command not found"
[03:06] <Pici> firewing1: You are trying to find a maintainer for an ubuntu package?
[03:06] <leafw> I can run them with wine, but then the app can't find the serial key
[03:06] <ipx1> dsl800: I don't have an idea of it not switching it, but take a chance and use the command.  Otherwise, you may have to install a different daemon.
[03:06] <pike_> dsl800: type help
[03:06] <DARKGuy> ztomic: yeah, I went across that thread too, I tried using 700, 755, 644, 664, the thing with username:username, with /, with /*, with no /... no luck :(
[03:06] <firewing1> Pici, yes... for `fwbackups'
[03:06] <dho_ragus> i'm having a weird sudo problem on feisty
[03:07] <erika14212> or onei have paypal
[03:07] <ipx1> dsl800: pike_ has a point.  There should be an equal command under smb.
[03:07] <dsl800> pike_, gives a list of commands but bin isn't one of them
[03:07] <ShackJack> leafw: Better to reinstall under wine...
[03:07] <dsl800> what is bin supposed to do?
[03:07] <dho_ragus> when i do sudo anything it just returns a prompt
[03:07] <ipx1> dsl800: the bin switches your dl from ascii to binary.
[03:07] <travis_> I dont need any kind of virus scan or spyware programs right?
[03:07] <dho_ragus> never seen anything behave like this before...
[03:07] <erika14212> guess not
[03:07] <ipx1> dsl800: this program must automatically do it.
[03:07] <dho_ragus> well... not anything other than feisty.
[03:08] <leafw> ShackJack : problem is, CDs are 7000 km away in my home university ...
[03:08] <Mr56k> So I installed the KDE desktop and along with it came all the KDE apps etc.. So I tried to use package manager to remove KDE which it did. But almost all the apps are still left over in my menu and they work still. Is there a command I can run to get rid of all KDE and Apps. Im back to using Gnome solely.
[03:08] <ShackJack> leafw: Regardless... ;)
[03:08] <ztomic> DARKGuy: the easy way would be to create a new user and copy.
[03:08] <dsl800> ipx1: I hope so
[03:08] <erika14212> no linux supports
[03:08] <Pici> firewing1: Are you sure thats the package name?
[03:08] <erika14212> boot from floppy
[03:08] <ShackJack> travis_: Nope - though you can get virus scanning, but they mostly scan for Windows viruses so you don't inadvertantly pass along...
[03:08] <ipx1> dsl800: Good luck.
[03:08] <dsl800> ipx1: I'll try doing "mget /mnt/hda1/* now I guess
[03:08] <travis_> awsome thank you
[03:08] <Pici> !install | erika14212  read this, I believe it does
[03:08] <ubotu> erika14212  read this, I believe it does: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:08] <dsl800> I'll report how it goes
[03:08] <erika14212> i wud donetwork install
[03:08] <pike_> Mr56k: remove some of the qt libs id say. youll also lose k3b but you can reinstall things like that
[03:08] <leafw> ShackJack : no seriously, I don't even have the serials with me; I thought I could just run them -they run, but then complain about lack of serial and run in demo mode.
[03:08] <ztomic> DARKGuy: don't reinstall because of that.
[03:09] <ShackJack> Mr56k: Did you remove kubuntu-desktop or just kde?
[03:09] <leafw> ShackJack : I even exported/imported the entire registry, but to no avail

[03:09] <firewing1> Pici, yes... I develop it
[03:09] <dsl800> ipx1: should I use mget or "recurse" to get everything
[03:09] <erika14212> not sure if anyone does
[03:10] <firewing1> Pici, http://www.diffingo.com/content/view/12/47/lang,en/
[03:10] <ipx1> dsl800: I recommend mget....
[03:10] <Mr56k> well I was running Ubuntu and used snyaptic to install KDE desktop. So i used snyaptic to uninstall and KDE desktop is now uninstalled but all the KDE apps are still there and show up in my Gnome
[03:10] <erika14212> it would be nice
[03:10] <dsl800> ipx1: ok
[03:10] <ahmadsaifan> im trying to install avant windows navigator, I get stuck after the sudo apt get install command, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[03:10] <ipx1> dsl800: I am not familiar with recurse.
[03:10] <ahmadsaifan> some one help
[03:10] <techII> ok, i have a built in microphone on my laptop that doesn't work
[03:10] <Pici> firewing1: So you are trying to get it added to the ubuntu repositories?
[03:10] <techII> i plug one in, and it works, but it produces a lot of static
[03:10] <erika14212> can i use iso buster
[03:10] <techII> trying to use the build in one only produces static
[03:10] <dsl800> ipx1: it says NT_STATUS_OBJECT_PATH_NOT_FOUND listing \/mnt/hda1/*
[03:10] <firewing1> Pici, either that but I was reading on Google that apt-get would pull it in... So I figured it was already there
[03:10] <erika14212> to read the ubuntu iso
[03:11] <ipx1> dsl800: what's with the other slash \ ?
[03:11] <dho_ragus> anybody having sudo problems with feisty?
[03:11] <pike_> Mr56k: i dont know if the handling for metapages has changed but normally my approach is to remove a common dependancy like qt then it also marks for removal anything that depends on the lib
[03:11] <erika14212> there has to be a way
[03:11] <pike_> er metapackages
[03:11] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[03:11] <dsl800> ipx1: I don't know how it got there, all I typed was mget /mnt/hda1/*
[03:11] <Mr56k> pike: so how would I do that?
[03:11] <Ktasiwa> why is ubuntu recognizing my ide hard drives as hda1 and hda2?
[03:11] <ipx1> dsl800: that's odd....
[03:11] <Ktasiwa> er, *not
[03:12] <Ktasiwa> it loads them as /dev/sda1
[03:12] <ipx1> dsl800: try the slashes in the other direction.
[03:12] <barnball> can anyone help me with this:  Error in command callback Can't locate auto/Xmms/Remote/get_playlis.al in @INC
[03:12] <Ktasiwa> not hda1
[03:12] <dsl800> ipx1: ok
[03:12] <Pici> firewing1: I dont see it in the repos. You can search here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:12] <dho_ragus> erika14212: what are you trying to do?  just mount an ISO?
[03:12] <erika14212> or is it nt possible
[03:12] <barnball> CPAN is installed, and xmms::remote, but doesnt seem to want to work
[03:12] <ahmadsaifan>  im trying to install Avant windows navigator, but i get stuck after the sudo apt get install command, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[03:12] <ahmadsaifan>  PLEASE SOME ONE HELP
[03:12] <DARKGuy> ztomic: sorry, had an unexpected family matter some minutes ago. Well, I tried making a new user and I got the dreaded .dmrc error too
[03:12] <Pici> !patience | ahmadsaifan
[03:12] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:12] <DARKGuy> ztomic: so I'm out of ideas :/
[03:12] <pike_> Mr56k: search synaptic for like qt lib  or something then mark for complete removal. i havent used synaptic much but id say thatll be equivalent to a apt-get remove
[03:12] <cdbaric> Why is ubuntustudio.org dead for over a week?
[03:12] <travis_> hey for some reason in fire fox i have white fonts and i cant read anything help plz also in liek amsn
[03:12] <dsl800> ipx1:similar error, this time listing \mnt\hda1\*
[03:12] <travis_> running ultimate
[03:13] <erika14212> is it possible
[03:13] <DARKGuy> ztomic: it was a fairly new reinstall which I made yesterday so I'm not losing much xD
[03:13] <ipx1> dsl800:  try the second plan.
[03:13] <firewing1> Pici, do you have experience with RPM-based systems?
[03:13] <ipx1> dsl800:  go into that directory ... do it that way.
[03:13] <dho_ragus> erika14212:  it is possible to view the contents of an ISO, yes.  and copy/read
[03:13] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: don't worry about it... is it a SATA hd?
[03:13] <cobaltcopy> hello all
[03:13] <ahmadsaifan>  im trying to install Avant windows navigator, but i get stuck after the sudo apt get install command, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[03:13] <ahmadsaifan>  PLEASE SOME ONE HELP
[03:13] <erika14212> cant the iso be copied to partion
[03:13] <DARKGuy> !caps ahmadsaifan
[03:13] <Ktasiwa> Firebird: no, it's IDE
[03:13] <cobaltcopy> I'm having a rather large problem with apache2...it doesn't install properly
[03:13] <Ktasiwa> which is why I'm wondering
[03:13] <Pici> firewing1: not in many years
[03:14] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan, I think there is a deb package on the avant side
[03:14] <Pelo> site
[03:14] <Ktasiwa> also, if /dev/sa1 is the IDE hd
[03:14] <ahmadsaifan> What are you talking about?
[03:14] <Ktasiwa> then what is the /dev file for my USB hd?
[03:14] <n2diy> ! caps | ahmadsaifan
[03:14] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:14] <Ktasiwa> which ubuntu didn't autodetect
[03:14] <erika14212> there has to be a way
[03:14] <dho_ragus> erika14212: the ISO can be mounted as if it were a real partition, then you can do whatever you like with it in r/w fashion
[03:14] <firewing1> Pici, k... Well thanks for the help! I'm going to install Ubuntu to a spare drive now so I can get used to apt....
[03:14] <ahmadsaifan> how will that help me? what is a deb file
[03:14] <ipx1> dsl800:  working that way?
[03:14] <Ktasiwa> on my other system sda1 is for USB hard drives
[03:14] <Mr56k> pike: There is several things that show up when i search for that "are installed" can I mess something up if I remove something im not suppose to?
[03:14] <Pici> firewing1: Okay, good luck!
[03:14] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: type sudo fdisk -l to see a list of hard drives and partitions :) it should be in there if it's detected
[03:14] <erika14212> r/w fasion
[03:15] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: It's like an install file...
[03:15] <barnball> ahmadsaifan, a debian install file
[03:15] <dsl800> ipx1:it won't cd
[03:15] <ahmadsaifan> I dont see it
[03:15] <Pici> !enter > erika14212 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> ahmadsaifan: how long have you been using ubuntu?
[03:15] <ahmadsaifan> Link to it please?
[03:15] <ipx1> dsl800:  you'll have to do it manually.
[03:15] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  sorry it's not a deb it 's repos you install it with apt-get   http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/Ubuntu+Feisty+Repository?t=anon
[03:15] <ahmadsaifan> for maybe a week
[03:15] <barnball> can anyone help me get xmms::remote goin?
[03:15] <pike_> Mr56k: yeah. but just commit to it. dont hesitate thats no way to live :)
[03:15] <ipx1> dsl800:  from terminal.
[03:15] <travis_> hey for some reason in fire fox i have white fonts and i cant read anything help plz also in liek amsn
[03:15] <tracer903> i got ubuntu 7.04 and it will not detect my usb flash drive
[03:15] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Avant+Window+Navigator
[03:15] <travis_> running ultimate
[03:15] <ipx1> dsl800:  from there, you can use the commands I mentioned before.
[03:15] <dsl800> ipx1:alright I'm in another terminal
[03:15] <Ktasiwa> ah, thanks Firebird
[03:15] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: yw :)
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> so i wasted my whole time using this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[03:16] <Mr56k> pike_: right lol haha....
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> tracer903: what filesystem is it formatted it in?
[03:16] <Ktasiwa> I had no idea that command existed :)
[03:16] <ipx1> dsl800:  another?  I thought you were using a program....
[03:16] <thedash> is there a way to leave Evolution running in the tray or something ?
[03:16] <turbolover> hey guys
[03:16] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: No, not a waste...
[03:16] <Pelo> tracer903, it should does it detect and mount your cds alright ?
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[03:16] <dsl800> I can't scroll up I'm in a termial version of irc
[03:16] <turbolover> has anyone had a problem with pentium d's or abit brand motherboards?
[03:16] <ipx1> dsl800:  no no...I mean your actual shell.
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> what do i do with your link shackjack
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> ahmadsaifan: just might have been a better way to do it...lol
[03:16] <Cufaf> hi who can help me abouth WNE programs
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> run those 6 commands?
[03:16] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Download deb and double click to install...
[03:16] <tracer903> I have to manually mount my cd's
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> 8*
[03:16] <erika14212> can the person try an im me
[03:16] <ShackJack> Cufaf: Check out #winehq
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[03:17] <n2diy> thedash: minimize it?
[03:17] <ahmadsaifan> let me try
[03:17] <ztomic> DARKGuy: new goal for you is: "learn how to fix problems without reinstalling"
[03:17] <ipx1> dsl800:  get the idea?
[03:17] <dsl800> I'm using the command line version of sm
[03:17] <erika14212> no
[03:17] <ahmadsaifan> 32 or 64 bits?
[03:17] <dsl800> what do you want me to run in the other terminal?
[03:17] <Cufaf> ShackJack,  ty
[03:17] <ipx1> dsl800:  ok....you know how to access the terminal screen under the "system" tab?
[03:17] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Depends on what version ubuntu you have..
[03:17] <erika14212> yur documentation dont answer the quester
[03:17] <tracer903> IndyGunFreak: fat32 I think
[03:17] <dsl800> I'm in it
[03:17] <ahmadsaifan> I think im 32
[03:17] <Mr56k> pike_: right lol haha....\\
[03:18] <dsl800> i'm in the terminal
[03:18] <dsl800> what command should I run?
[03:18] <ipx1> dsl800:  where are the files?
[03:18] <ahmadsaifan> god, there was that link the whole time
[03:18] <ahmadsaifan> is it easy to use?
[03:18] <tracer903> Pelo: cd's have to be mounted in the terminal
[03:18] <ipx1> dsl800:  (the ones you're trying to get)?
[03:18] <MrAndrews> Can anyone tell me how I would go about opening BAttlefeild 2142 in Ubuntu 7.4 to run it
[03:18] <Mr56k> pike_:  I found the right one. It said in the description that removing this removes all KDE dependencies etc. Also all the programs it was gona use were the KDE apps. Thanks alot!
[03:18] <MrAndrews> ?
[03:18] <dsl800> ipx1: the files I want to transfer are in /mnt/hda1 on this computer (dsl)
[03:18] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Prolly - check their site for docs I imaginge, but most ppl like it...
[03:18] <dsl800> I want to put them on the ubuntu computer
[03:18] <erika14212> so now back  to question
[03:19] <pike_> Mr56k: np
[03:19] <ipx1> dsl800:  ok -- ftp loopback...
[03:19] <dsl800> unknown host
[03:19] <ahmadsaifan> i wish someone showed me that link before
[03:19] <ipx1> dsl800:  ftp to your computer's IP ... assuming you're on a router.
[03:19] <ahmadsaifan> i wasted time and effort and memory
[03:19] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I always try that, I hate reinstalling >.< I've tried all I've could: creating new users, trying chmod/chowns, deleting everything in ~... all I could do was to log in failsafe terminal and I could start Beryl and Emerald. gnome-panel and gnome-session hanged. nautilus worked after 3 minutes of launch on an xterm and gnome never started, not even from failsafe, not even from gnome-session through an xterm. No error messages either. "dmesg | tail" o
[03:19] <ahmadsaifan> A LOT OF MEMORY
[03:19] <dho_ragus> dsl800, what are you trying to do?  copy files?
[03:19] <Pelo> tracer903, I thought you were using gui,  don'T know about hte terminal much but the usb flash should mount automaticaly to /media just like the cds that's why I was asking , anything special about your flash drive , ? special fs or smething maybe, ?
[03:19] <ShackJack> !enter | ahmadsaifan
[03:19] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:19] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I'm out of ideas :(
[03:20] <j0nas`> when will gcc 4.2 finally be available in the repositories?
[03:20] <erika14212> can i use iso reader to install ubyntu
[03:20] <ztomic> DARKGuy: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/usersubuntu.shtml
[03:20] <Pelo> !install | erika14212
[03:20] <ubotu> erika14212: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:20] <dho_ragus> erika14212: yes, you can.  try alcohol or daemontools in windows
[03:20] <dsl800> dho_ragus, rescue files from a computer with only a floppy drive
[03:20] <ahmadsaifan> installation has finished
[03:20] <dho_ragus> dsl800: take the floppy disk out of the drive to rescue them.
[03:21] <ahmadsaifan> wow, wasted my last 2 horus trying to install
[03:21] <xjkx>  How do i configure my linux to root be allowed to open graphical softwares in users' X?
[03:21] <dsl800> ipx1: ftp loopback didn't work
[03:21] <ShackJack> erika14212: I think you actually have to burn to disk to install... Or use wubi to install from within windows..
[03:21] <dho_ragus> dsl800: hah, just kidding... you're trying to copy from the internal hdd to the floppy?
[03:21] <IdleOne> xjkx: use sudo
[03:21] <ahmadsaifan> now where do i find it?
[03:21] <astro76> !gksudo | xjkx
[03:21] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Nothing is a waste if you learn from the experience ;)
[03:21] <ubotu> xjkx: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[03:21] <dsl800> dho_ragus, files are too big for a floppy
[03:21] <IdleOne> xjkx: or better yet use gksu to run GUI
[03:21] <dsl800> dho_ragus, I'm transfering from one hard drive to the other
[03:21] <techII> ok, anyone have a clue about why my microphone picks up static under linux, and not windows?
[03:21] <ahmadsaifan> how do i disable my normal panel?/??
[03:21] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: See docs... you prolly have to start avant-whatever and/or add to you session startup programs...
[03:21] <dho_ragus> dsl800: well, back in the day we used `tar --tape-length` to split files between tapes...
[03:21] <xjkx> astro76: IdleOne I am using sudo, gksu wont help because i need NOPASSWD thing
[03:22] <dho_ragus> dsl800: same works for floppies
[03:22] <ahmadsaifan> i have it working
[03:22] <ahmadsaifan> but the normal dock is still on
[03:22] <dsl800> dho_ragus, I'm about to give up and use aim even though it's a million times slower
[03:22] <ShackJack> !enter | ahmadsaifan
[03:22] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:22] <regeya> wow, things like !enter make me think of freenode #debian
[03:22] <xjkx> Its a script, if i do gksu /bin/example it will prompt something, not directly open
[03:22] <ztomic> hehe
[03:22] <ahmadsaifan> Shackjack, i do i disable the lower panel, cuz the avant panel is on top of it
[03:23] <dsl800> dho_ragus, lol but I think I prefer sending them through a network
[03:23] <ztomic> debian buttholes
[03:23] <techII> dsl800, know how to use netcat?
[03:23] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: drag it to the top - you'll prolly need it for other stuff...
[03:23] <erika14212> where do i find wubu
[03:23] <ahmadsaifan> what?
[03:23] <Pici> !wubi | erika14212
[03:23] <ubotu> erika14212: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[03:23] <dsl800> techII, no, what does it do?
[03:23] <Ktasiwa> how good is ubuntu support for writing to NTFS partitions?
[03:23] <ahmadsaifan> then i have black line at the bottom
[03:23] <dho_ragus> dsl800: nah, use tar --tape-length=...
[03:24] <techII> it sends data piped to it over the network
[03:24] <astro76> xjkx, what does it do?
[03:24] <dho_ragus> dsl800: not sure what that length needs to be though...
[03:24] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I tried the .dmrc solution in that link to, both creating a new user and creating a new user after deleting my current one
[03:24] <erika14212> wubi
[03:24] <DARKGuy> *too
[03:24] <ahmadsaifan> nevermind, it  just part of my backround
[03:24] <Pici> Ktasiwa: Pretty good, I havent heard of anyone having issues in quite a long time, since it went stable
[03:24] <erika14212> where do i find it
[03:24] <smallfoot-> when you handwash clothes like boxers and socks, do you use hot or cold water?
[03:24] <ShackJack> !prefix | ahmadsaifan
[03:24] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[03:24] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: if you install ntfs-3g (that's not linked to Ubuntu in any way) you can get decent enough ntfs write support
[03:24] <Pici> !offtopic | smallfoot-
[03:24] <ubotu> smallfoot-: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:24] <xjkx> astro76:  I have a script that is ran by sudo, but it uses Xdialog, and it refuses to open my Xdialog because it uses X ;/
[03:24] <ShackJack> erika14212: Google ;)
[03:24] <erika14212> can some im me
[03:24] <smallfoot-> thanks
[03:24] <techII> ive only used it for small files though
[03:24] <Pici> !wubi > erika14212 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:24] <ahmadsaifan> shackjack: how can i edit Avant?
[03:24] <zatoichi> hoola
[03:24] <Ktasiwa> Firebird: I'm on the live CD, though
[03:24] <smallfoot-> erika14212, you are a girl, you know how to wash clothes
[03:24] <ahmadsaifan> like skins and stuff
[03:24] <smallfoot-> please help me
[03:24] <zatoichi> buenas
[03:25] <Ktasiwa> I don't want to dl anything if I can help it
[03:25] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Drag icons to it, etc... check out their documentation...
[03:25] <DARKGuy> !spanish | zatoichi
[03:25] <ubotu> zatoichi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> not icons
[03:25] <zatoichi> uasap man
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> i mean skins
[03:25] <zatoichi> XD
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> and other options
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> like the way it acts
[03:25] <xjkx> astro76: the script itself needs to be ran by sudo, because it checks if a directory exists, and the user CANT list it manually
[03:25] <dho_ragus> dsl800: ah, easy.  tar --tape-length=1000 -f /mnt/floppy ~/
[03:25] <ztomic> DARKGuy: take the easiest route.
[03:25] <dho_ragus> dsl800: or whatever
[03:25] <ubuntuEdgy> hi guys i have a strange issue with ssh. when i run nautilus the nautilus windows shows up the pc i have ssh-ed into  make sense ?
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> and how can i my my top panel transparent?
[03:25] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: unless you download it I'm afraid you don't have ntfs write support in there. Maybe you can try a rescue cd instead?
[03:25] <erika14212> i tried cooperative ;inux
[03:25] <astro76> ahmadsaifan, please don't use enter..., you're scrolling the screen like crazy
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> lol
[03:25] <dho_ragus> dsl800: it'll ask you for the next "tape" when it's done writing that one disk.
[03:25] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I can't even load that users-admin panel, it hangs like the other gnome apps :S
[03:25] <Ktasiwa> eh, well, I'll do it if I have to
[03:26] <tracer903> /dev/hda5: UUID="fd46e7ab-f179-4dab-a7db-a8fd38259223" TYPE="swap"
[03:26] <tracer903> /dev/hdb1: UUID="162E-1AE3" TYPE="vfat"
[03:26] <tracer903> /dev/sda1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="3870-2C23" TYPE="vfat"
[03:26] <dho_ragus> dsl800: swap the floppy out, take it to the other machine and dump the disk while you're writing another floppy.  easy as pie.
[03:26] <BENN92647> if I am going to install flash player linux beta 2 do i need to remove beta version one first?
[03:26] <yanger> does ubuntu have a program to cache and locate all images and display a thumbnail of them like picasa? i've tried picasa via apt-get, but after a while, it hangs
[03:26] <ahmadsaifan> Shackjack, how can i skin it?
[03:26] <dsl800> dho_ragus, I just don't want to shuffle them around and it's like 4 gigs
[03:26] <dsl800> total
[03:26] <astro76> yanger, there is f-spot
[03:26] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Already answered you... go see docs or avant site...
[03:26] <dho_ragus> dsl800: oh.
[03:26] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[03:27] <dsl800> what I should really do
[03:27] <ahmadsaifan> peace out
[03:27] <dho_ragus> dsl800: take the hard disk out?
[03:27] <ShackJack> yanger - F-Spot does that...
[03:27] <dho_ragus> dsl800: use IP over serial?
[03:27] <dsl800> is figure out how to write to the usb drive I'm booting off of
[03:27] <yanger> oooo ok
[03:27] <dho_ragus> dsl800: what are you booting from?
[03:27] <Pelo> tracer903, I'm pretty sure that your flash diver is /dev/sda1  so in the terminal first make a mount point    sudo mkdir    /media/Flash    then  moun it with   sudo mount /dev/sda1  /media/Flash
[03:27] <dho_ragus> dsl800: and do you not have a network?
[03:27] <dsl800> dho_ragus, usb flash drive running dsl, and I have a network
[03:28] <dho_ragus> dsl800: so why not hook both your computers to the network and do it that way?
[03:28] <techII> dsl800, http://www.linux.com/articles/114093?theme=print has some info about netcat
[03:28] <BENN92647> has anyone in here fixed the sound problem with linux and flash player? if so can you do a walkthrough with me on how you got it to work?
[03:28] <yurimxpxman> what's the mouse device name?
[03:28] <dho_ragus> dsl800: or why not boot from a livecd and then write to the usb disk?
[03:28] <dsl800> dho_ragus, that's what I've been trying with ipx1, but we have no idea how to do it
[03:28] <dsl800> and the cd drive is broken
[03:28] <h1st0> dsl800: what are you trying to do?
[03:28] <dho_ragus> yurimxpxman: it's different depending on your system.  try /dev/mouse
[03:28] <dsl800> it's an old computer
[03:28] <erika14212> who is small foot
[03:28] <techII> make sure to do a md5sum on the archive
[03:28] <zatoichi> somebody install cdemu??? sorry hello
[03:28] <dho_ragus> dsl800: you can't take the hard disk out?
[03:28] <dsl800> h1st0, send files over a network
[03:29] <avis> how do i check the integrirty of a ext3 drive ?
[03:29] <erika14212> wats the light weight verion of ubuntu
[03:29] <dho_ragus> dsl800: or install a new hard disk in it?
[03:29] <h1st0> dsl800: and the problem is?
[03:29] <slowriot> I just tried to install a windows network card driver using ndiswrapper. Now, when I try to boot up, configuring network interfaces causes a soft crash. How do I get Ubuntu working again? I'm using Fesity Fawn.
[03:29] <dho_ragus> avis: fsck
[03:29] <Pici> erika14212: xubuntu
[03:29] <astro76> yurimxpxman, it might be in /dev/input/
[03:29] <at0miku> whats the date/time in america now? (central)
[03:29] <dsl800> dho_ragus, It's screwed in there pretty tight, I plan to take it out eventually but I'd rather backup the riles in case I break it trying
[03:29] <Pelo> tracer903, I'm thinking it might be possible it is not automouting because automount uses the label as a temp mountpoint  and you'r doesn'T have a label
[03:29] <h1st0> slowriot: rmmod ndiswrapper or uninstall the driver you used.
[03:29] <h1st0> slowriot: what type of card do you have?
[03:29] <techII> avis, the usual fsck
[03:29] <dho_ragus> at0miku: www.time.gov
[03:29] <Pelo> tracer903, but that is just a guess
[03:29] <dsl800> it's an old compaq, put together kinda weird
[03:29] <at0miku> dho_ragus: thanks
[03:29] <dr_loaf> at0miku: 8:31, august 15
[03:29] <dr_loaf> pm
[03:30] <dho_ragus> dsl800: well, i definitely recommend using a network.
[03:30] <at0miku> hmm thanks
[03:30] <slowriot> h1st0: I have a F5D8001
[03:30] <at0miku> damn I dont get payed till tomorrow >_<
[03:30] <h1st0> slowriot: isn't that a broadcom chip.  Like some sort of belkin or something.
[03:30] <dsl800> h1st0, I don't know how to send files over a network. scp didn't work and I don't know any other way
[03:30] <Pelo> tracer903, I suggest you check in the forum for info on usb flash not mounting ,  at least now hyou know it is not the flash that is the problem
[03:30] <yanger> hmm. but with f-spot, you have to import the images to a folder?
[03:30] <slowriot> h1st0: yeah, it's a Belkin
[03:30] <h1st0> dsl800: just mount a share and put them there would be another way.
[03:30] <techII> dsl800, see the article?
[03:30] <dho_ragus> dsl800: what did scp say?
[03:30] <h1st0> slowriot: you may be able to just use the firmware fromt he card instead of playing around with ndiswrapper
[03:31] <dho_ragus> dsl800: i definitely recommend rsync over scp.
[03:31] <erika14212> ok
[03:31] <dsl800> h1st0, said ssh wasn't installed correctly or something
[03:31] <dho_ragus> dsl800: scp is in place of cp, but rsync is made for syncing whole trees of data.
[03:31] <Pelo> tracer903, might be worth clean instaling someting got borked
[03:31] <slowriot> h1st0: hmm... how would I do that?
[03:31] <erika14212> does wubi use fat partion
[03:31] <h1st0> dsl800: just mount the network share and just cp the files to the folder sync and umount it.
[03:31] <dsl800> h1st0, I'm trying that now, but it only has the command line version of smb and I don't know how to use it
[03:31] <dho_ragus> dsl800: i'd say get ssh working.
[03:32] <h1st0> slowriot: you have to rip the frimware from a files on the windows driver disk then just place it in /lib/firmware/<kernelversion>
[03:32] <dho_ragus> dsl800: once you have ssh working, it's as easy as `rsync --partial --progress ~/  remotecomputer:~/backup/`
[03:32] <h1st0> slowriot: reboot after removing allt he ndiswrapper garbage and it should work.
[03:32] <Pelo> tracer903, no need to use /notice to talk to me all the time just typing my nick is enought I will notice it,  I only use /notice when I want to say something private
[03:32] <h1st0> slowriot: if you search the forums for fwcutter you should find some documentation on it.
[03:32] <h1st0> !fw-cutter
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fw-cutter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <dsl800> dho_ragus, ssh is kind of working, let me try  it again
[03:32] <tracer903> Pelo Ok, thanks
[03:32] <slowriot> h1st0: okay, thanks
[03:33] <slowriot> here I go
[03:33] <Pelo> tracer903, you can make a launcher to speed up your mount so you wont, have to type it in the terminal
[03:33] <h1st0> slowriot: np much easier solution i've been happier with it now that I use that instead of ndis
[03:33] <DARKGuy> oh well
[03:33] <dsl800> dho_ragus, alright I am able to ssh into the remote computer
[03:33] <tracer903> Ok
[03:33] <h1st0> dsl800: then scp should work
[03:33] <h1st0> dsl800: or sftp
[03:33] <dho_ragus> dsl800: ok, then do it like this...
[03:34] <qiyong> is there any good webmail? i use postfix+dovecot.
[03:34] <dho_ragus> dsl800: rsync -e ssh -az --partial --progress  /path/you/want/to/backup  remotepc:~/backup/
[03:34] <dho_ragus> dsl800: if it gets messed up, just do that command again and it'll pick up where it left off.
[03:34] <dsl800> should I log out of ssh and do that? or do it logged in to the remote computer
[03:35] <dho_ragus> qiyong: roundcube is rad
[03:35] <dho_ragus> dsl800: do that from the pc you want to back up
[03:35] <dsl800> dho_ragus, thanks! here goes
[03:35] <dho_ragus> *sigh*  now if i could just solve this stupid feisty sudo problem....
[03:35] <vendeta> blah i need help
[03:36] <Pelo> dho_ragus,  what stupid fiesty sudo problem ?
[03:36] <dho_ragus> sudo isn't working.  just returns the next line
[03:36] <dho_ragus> `sudo whoami` returns nothing
[03:36] <techII> dho_ragus, qiyong, ditto with roundcube
[03:36] <Pelo> dho_ragus,  are you logged in as root by any chance ?
[03:36] <vendeta> can some one help me?
[03:36] <dho_ragus> Pelo: it DID work... not sure when it stopped, but it was some time while i was sitting at this terminal.
[03:36] <dho_ragus> Pelo: nope
[03:36] <Pelo> vendeta,  if you want help ask a question
[03:36] <techII> !ask
[03:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:37] <techII> !question
[03:37] <vendeta> lol ok
[03:37] <cobaltcopy> hello again
[03:37] <vendeta> uhh second need to figure out how to say my question
[03:37] <newbie2> i cant authenticate using ncsa_auth on squid
[03:37] <newbie2> help please
[03:38] <vendeta> im doing this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828
[03:38] <dsl800> dho_ragus, erg, could you paste that command again? sorry
[03:38] <Pelo> vendeta,  I am not opening any loinks until I know what it is about , what are you trying to do ?
[03:38] <vendeta> 5. Compile ndiswrapper:
[03:38] <vendeta> Code:
[03:38] <vendeta> pushd atheros-ar5007eg-installer-0.1b/ndiswrapper-1.47/
[03:38] <vendeta> sudo make uninstall
[03:38] <vendeta> make
[03:38] <vendeta> sudo make install
[03:38] <vendeta> popd
[03:39] <vendeta> for the code do i copy and paste all of the lines or one at a time
[03:39] <Pici> !enter | vendeta
[03:39] <ubotu> vendeta: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:39] <techII> vendeta: i have the same card, but its under gutsy
[03:39] <vendeta> huh
[03:39] <astro76> Pici, that's a paste :P
[03:39] <dho_ragus> Pelo: shizz, i just found out my problem.  modded my groups and somehow removed me from admin
[03:40] <Pelo> vendeta,  but that is the problem ?
[03:40] <newpers> is this an ubuntu issue or gnome issue?  I had dual monitors working with archlinux and xfce.  I have copied over my xorg.conf file from my archlinux backup to ubuntu, but X freezes when the GDM loads in ubuntu?
[03:40] <techII> i have the same chipset in this laptop, needed to do similar things to get it working
[03:40] <scipio> vendeta, one line at a time
[03:40] <vendeta> ok only 1 line
[03:40] <Besucher_57> ?
[03:40] <Besucher_57> hahha fuckin noobs
[03:40] <vendeta> tech can u help me with this
[03:40] <Pelo> vendeta, sorry I hadnT' read the second part, I was busy slapping pici,  yes one line at a time
[03:40] <techII> !question
[03:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:41] <astro76> !noob | Besucher_57
[03:41] <ubotu> Besucher_57: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:41] <Besucher_57> ?????????????
[03:41] <plasmafox> DCC SEND AWIGJIOJIOGWJAOIGJWIOEAJIOGJOIAWEOPWJEPOIGJIWEJG!
[03:41] <vendeta> blah spam
[03:41] <Amaranth> damnit
[03:41] <dsl800> dho_ragus, slight hitch - it askes for the ubuntu computer's root password
[03:42] <dsl800> dho_ragus, and it doesn't have a root password
[03:42] <newpers> is this an ubuntu issue or gnome issue?  I had dual monitors working with archlinux and xfce.  I have copied over my xorg.conf file from my archlinux backup to ubuntu, but X freezes when the GDM loads in ubuntu?
[03:42] <Pici> !traffic
[03:42] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[03:42] <matty_v> !question I have a hp zx500 pavillion on 7.04 - I am getting no sound - I have tried reinstalling the alsa trivers and my soundcard is detected via aplay -l : can anyone help me with this?
[03:42] <Pelo> !botabuse | Pici
[03:42] <ubotu> Pici: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:42] <Amaranth> Pelo: Dude.
[03:42] <Pici> Pelo: Would you stop harrassing me, I'm using the bot constructively.
[03:43] <dho_ragus> dsl800: ah
[03:43] <dsl800> !botsnack
[03:43] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:43] <dsl800> me too
[03:43] <dho_ragus> dsl800: do this then...
[03:43] <dho_ragus> dsl800: rsync --partial --progress -az  /path/to/backup  user@remotepc:~/
[03:43] <dsl800> got it
[03:43] <dsl800> thanks
[03:43] <matty_v> !question I have a hp zx500 pavillion on 7.04 - I am getting no sound - I have tried reinstalling the alsa trivers and my soundcard is detected via aplay -l : can anyone help me with this?
[03:44] <dsl800> YAY! THE HARD DRIVE SPINS UP
[03:44] <seanj_> :)
[03:44] <Amaranth> matty_v: are you sure it's not just really quiet?
[03:44] <seanj_> I love it whent they do that.
[03:44] <Pelo> !sound | matty_v have you tried this ?
[03:44] <ubotu> matty_v have you tried this ?: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:44] <matty_v> Amaranth - yep 100% (even tho i might be half deaf) - I cant hear anything at all
[03:45] <Amaranth> matty_v: oh, no idea then
[03:45] <sipalui> anyone have succesufully installed opera on ubuntu 5.0?
[03:45] <matty_v> Pelo: I have followed the SoundTroubleshooting guide with no luck so far
[03:45] <dsl800> dho_ragus, thanks so much for your help!
[03:45] <dho_ragus> dsl800: no problemo, losing data is teh sukc!
[03:45] <Pelo> matty_v, starting with the basics are you sure your speakers are plugged in and powered on ?
[03:46] <dho_ragus> my aunts boyfriend once said "there are two kinds of data... the kind you haven't lost, and the kind you haven't lost YET"
[03:46] <matty_v> Pelo - Yes - I'm using a laptop which has internal speakers
[03:46] <pike_> matty_v: only problems ive had with sound on my laptops recently have been amixer settings. is launch alsamixer in terminal and adjust the volume and also unmute using < > keys worth a shot
[03:46] <Pelo> matty_v,  some laptops have hardware mute buttons
[03:47] <matty_v> Yeah i've tried alsamixer so far - I have an external mute button which I have tried on & off
[03:47] <politik> anyone else get random terminal corruption sometimes, especially when running a curses app like aptitude? sometimes I get chinese characters, or other random things
[03:47] <techII> about sound, my built in speakers work, but my microphone only produces static, this does not happen under windows
[03:47] <matty_v> with no luck ot either :(
[03:47] <lmosher> I'm on the Ubuntu liveCD and GParted is driving me -crazy-. I'm doing some operations on my primary disk (resizing/moving/copying partitions) and the stupid thing keeps MOUNTING the drive as soon as an operation finishes, which means GParted can't finish cleanly (it would normally check to make sure it went OK).
[03:47] <lmosher> Is there any way to make it -stop- automounting my drive so gparted can finish what it's doing?
[03:47] <Pelo> techII, I suggest you have a look in the forum
[03:47] <techII> i have no idea what could cause the problem, other than some weird thing in the windows drivers
[03:48] <AutoMatriX> somebody can give me a link to install a 704, on a 4 gig usb-stick ?
[03:48] <astro76> lmosher, I believe there's a way, I always just use system rescue cd instead
[03:48] <Pelo> lmosher, umount from gparted it should lock them out
[03:48] <sipalui> anyone have succesufully installed opera on ubuntu 5.0?
[03:48] <pike_> AutoMatriX: /msg ubotu install
[03:48] <Pelo> !install | AutoMatriX
[03:48] <ubotu> AutoMatriX: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> sipalui: 5.0?
[03:48] <pike_> AutoMatriX: the first link
[03:48] <AutoMatriX> tx pike
[03:48] <IdleOne> !upgrade | sipalui
[03:48] <ubotu> sipalui: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:48] <AutoMatriX> tx pelo
[03:49] <lmosher> Pelo, ok so let it automount and then use gparted to unmount instead of doing it manually?
[03:49] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, too late , I'm offended now
[03:49] <Pelo> lmosher, pretty much,  but I donT' get why it gets remounted , it shouldn'T do that
[03:50] <flush> yo
[03:50] <flush> how the hell do i mount a dvd cdrom via nfs
[03:50] <sipalui> IdleOne: I have to wait for the CD to come to my place
[03:50] <flush> it keeps bugging me with "server gives reason: permission denied" even though i added it (ro,async) in /etc/exports
[03:50] <flush> what gives
[03:50] <d4rkmonkey> flush, thats definately not the way to ask a question on this channel.
[03:50] <lmosher> Pelo, Yeah it shouldn't... it's really really really annoying. I mean so far (knock on wood) nothing has gone wrong.. but usuall instead of gparted finishing cleanly, I get a window of the drive contents poping up and gparted crashes :)
[03:50] <Pelo> flush,  didyou try with sudo ?
[03:51] <flush> Pelo i mount it here, then i just cannot mount it on the remote box
[03:51] <dho_ragus> flush: you could try symlinking it into a pre-existing nfs folder
[03:51] <sipalui> IdleOne: I have ordered them from Shipit
[03:51] <IdleOne> sipalui: why not use the upgrade-manager?
[03:51] <flush> all other nfs mounts (hard drive partitions) will mount correctly
[03:51] <flush> dho_ragus interesting
[03:51] <flush> you think its because its a cdrom that it keeps saying "permission denied" ?
[03:51] <casperzshado> this might be a question for kubuntu but i dont think so, i downloaded and installed my nvidia driver and i have to go into the terminal and type something to enable it, sudo apt-get something enable, im running kubuntu but can anyone help me?
[03:51] <Pelo> lmosher, maybe the mount point needs to be shared ? I donT' know much abut this I am sorry
[03:51] <flush> i tried googling.. cant find something useful
[03:51] <sipalui> IdleOne: where is the update-manager?
[03:52] <Pelo> soorry worng person
[03:52] <Pelo> flush maybe the mount point needs to be shared ? I donT' know much abut this I am sorry
[03:52] <flush> yea it it shared
[03:52] <IdleOne> sipalui: under System > Administration > Update manager
[03:53] <scipio> flush, if you have access get the gparted livecd and use that instead..
[03:53] <IdleOne> hmmm did 5.0 have a update-manager or was that implemented in 5.10?
[03:54] <flush> see my export file: http://allpr0h.eyh.ca/wtfx0r/exports
[03:54] <flush> everything in that file will mount correctly, except the damn cdrom..
[03:54] <IdleOne> !language | flush
[03:54] <ubotu> flush: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:54] <flush> aight
[03:55] <IdleOne> flush: also try not to use the enter key like punctuation :|
[03:55] <flush> sorry im getting annoyed
[03:55] <flush> hrm..
[03:55] <slowriot_> v identify yammer
[03:56] <IdleOne> slowriot_: use / next time and change your password
[03:56] <ztomic> bye!
[03:56] <slowriot_> IdleOne: why?
[03:56] <dho_ragus> flush: ah, now i see why you're trying to mount a dvd...
[03:56] <IdleOne> slowriot_: cause now we all know your pass is yammer
[03:56] <slowriot_> wow
[03:56] <slowriot_> oh!
[03:56] <slowriot_> oops
[03:56] <flush> dho_ragus yes, a dvd
[03:57] <flush> why cannot it just -read- the dvd mounted here
[03:58] <dho_ragus> flush: take out the async and try again
[03:58] <IdleOne> slowriot_: always a good idea to send pasword via the server tab so it doesnt get sent to an open #
[03:58] <casperzshado>  this might be a question for kubuntu but i dont think so, i downloaded and installed my nvidia driver and i have to go into the terminal and type something to enable it, sudo apt-get something enable, im running kubuntu but can anyone help me?
[03:58] <flush> dho_ragus copy, ill try in few mins ill tell you watsup
[03:59] <Pelo> !nvidia | casperzshado
[03:59] <ubotu> casperzshado: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:59] <HHP2K> casperzshado: /j #kubuntu
[03:59] <slowriot_> After I tried installing a windows driver for my wireless card using ndiswrapper, I started getting soft crashes whenever I try to boot up. I was told to remove the ndiswrapper package to do this. How do I remove the package? Right now I am running ubuntu off the cd.
[03:59] <faileas> hmm
[03:59] <faileas> !jdk
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <Pelo> slowriot_, sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper
[04:00] <sin2gen2> !screenlets
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenlets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <Pelo> slowriot_,  you'll need to boot the recovery mode, you can'T do that from the live cd
[04:01] <Pelo> sin2gen2,  you'll need to google for screenlets, they have a site
[04:01] <slowriot_> Pelo: okay, but recovery mode crashes too. How do I get around that?
[04:01] <sin2gen2> Pelo:  just found it thanks
[04:01] <hotdog003> Hello. I'm having problems with a Zonet ZEW1602 wireless card. I've compiled ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant from source, but WPA mode doesn't work. Dmesg reports that 'ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[04:01] <Pelo> slowriot_,  I think you are screwed
[04:01] <J-Wreck> slowriot, do you have backups?
[04:02] <J-Wreck> you're in a bad spot
[04:02] <slowriot_> Pelo: but I have access to everything from the live CD.
[04:02] <Pelo> hotdog003, you'll have to chekc in the forum
[04:02] <Pelo> slowriot_,  you can use the recovery cd to backup your /home
[04:02] <hotdog003> Aw. Ok. Thanks, guys. *sigh*
[04:02] <dahlan> haloo all
[04:02] <Pelo> slowriot_, but you cannot uninstall from the live cd,  or at least I donT' think so
[04:02] <HHP2K> rofl, hotdog should have waited
[04:02] <slowriot_> J-Wreck: no backups. Usually when I change an important file I make a backup, but I did the installation using a GUI. I guess there are the backups that ubuntu automatically makes.
[04:02] <HHP2K> dahlan: Ello =D
[04:03] <J-Wreck> well, you can backup your files from the liveCD
[04:03] <J-Wreck> it'll be a littler slower, but it'll work
[04:03] <J-Wreck> and Pelo is right, you can't change packages on the system from the liveCD
[04:03] <slowriot_> J-Wreck: hmm.. that's an idea.
[04:03] <J-Wreck> you might need to reinstall
[04:03] <faileas> i'm trying in install netbeans. i'm told to change the ownership of a file to root.root, can someone tell me how to do it?
[04:03] <meoblast001> does Ubuntu support RPM's
[04:03] <Pelo> slowriot_, you can resize the partition ad make a seperate one for moving your /home to ,  we hightly recommend that you use a seperate partiton fo ryour /home folder in the future , it saves a lot of trouble when it comes time to reinstall
[04:04] <Pelo> meoblast001, ubuntu uses deb
[04:04] <J-Wreck> you can use alien to install rpms on ubuntu, however
[04:04] <madman91> meoblast001: you can convert rpms to debs with alien
[04:04] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  you can convert an RPM to a DEB using the alian package
[04:04] <madman91> bah,, you beat me
[04:04] <meoblast001> Pelo: i know but can it use RPM's too? some operating systems can use other pacages
[04:04] <J-Wreck> no, it cannot use rpms without converting them
[04:04] <Pelo> J-Wreck, he can but honestly he's better of compiling
[04:05] <meoblast001> k thanks
[04:05] <slowriot_> Pelo: hmm... okay
[04:05] <J-Wreck> true, pelo
[04:05] <vincechen> but now use linux from 6.10 at the official web
[04:05] <J-Wreck> depends how much data/tweaking is there
[04:05] <J-Wreck> if its relatively new
[04:05] <J-Wreck> it wouldn't matter much
[04:05] <Pelo> vincechen,  ? ???
[04:06] <aaisen> does anyone have any experience with overwriting hardware dvd encryption in ubuntu?
[04:06] <madman91> i just installed a cli version of ubuntu.. and i was curious if there was someway to boot the network interface (eth1) at start up.. it doesnt seem to open up on its own.. also.. how can i rename eth1 to eth0
[04:07] <vincechen> Pelo, the official web change it from edgy,say use linux (not debian)
[04:07] <slowriot_> Pelo: is there OS file that running ndiswrapper would have changed that causes my computer to crash during bootup?
[04:07] <pike_> madman91: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces  youll want an auto eth1 in there i believe
[04:07] <Pelo> madman91, why would you need to do so ?
[04:07] <slowriot_> Pelo: maybe it has been backed up
[04:07] <madman91> Pelo: .. the network starting up?
[04:07] <pike_> madman91: for the rename... /etc/iftab
[04:08] <madman91> pike_: ... in iftab there is an eth0 .. but my device is called eth1
[04:08] <qmf> is there a gutsy help channel?
[04:08] <Pelo> slowriot_,  look in /etc/init.d  maybe youcan delete it from there ,  in fact   run   locate ndiswrapper and delete allyou see
[04:08] <slowriot_> Pelo: thanks
[04:08] <Pelo> qmf,  #ubuntu+1
[04:08] <XFTwitch> wow. madman91 had almost the same question as I did....
[04:08] <pike_> madman91: iftab has the harware adress associated with the device name.  i guess eth1 is maybe a wireless card?
[04:08] <DerangedDingo> qmf: i think there's a ubuntu-devel or something channel. check the main website
[04:08] <XFTwitch> and now I think it's fixed.
[04:08] <qmf> cheers pelo
[04:08] <XFTwitch> :)
[04:08] <Pelo> slowriot_, you might be reckingit but at this point ...
[04:09] <madman91> pike_: no wireless cards at all
[04:09] <J-Wreck> qmf, there is  #ubuntu+1, which is for development versions and such
[04:09] <madman91> pike_: lol :)
[04:09] <madman91> pike_: i forgot to ssh into the remote computer :D hahaha
[04:10] <GamingX> Hello guys, I read about how Linux is almost invincible against viruses when compared to Windows, but what about spyware, adware and the likes of it?
[04:10] <Glench_> hello my fellows dudes!
[04:10] <madman91> pike_: but wait.. its still auto eth0 ..
[04:10] <madman91> GamingX: thats pretty much gone too
[04:10] <J-Wreck> GamingX, you won't have to worry about that
[04:10] <Glench_> who wants to help me stab wireless in the face?
[04:10] <Konsole> how do i make the terminal see through?
[04:10] <J-Wreck> Konsole, do you have beryl/compiz installed?
[04:10] <Konsole> yes
[04:10] <Konsole> compiz.
[04:11] <Pelo> GamingX, the way linux is built is almost impossible for anyting to install itself on your computer withouht your knowlegde,  and what little can can't realy do much damage
[04:11] <pike_> madman91: so id assume that is ok. then you just want to flip the devices with the macs in iftab ?
[04:11] <Glench_> I need help using unshield. Anyone up to it?
[04:11] <sdfasdf> so I think I have the right driver installed for my webcam but there isn't a /dev/video and ekiga doesn't auto detect anything. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this?
[04:11] <DerangedDingo> Konsole: Open the terminal, Edit, Profiles, Edit current profile, and go to effects
[04:11] <GamingX> I see....Linux all the way!!!
[04:11] <madman91> pike_: .. its eth0 in there as well... but in ifconfig its eth1
[04:11] <J-Wreck> glad you agree GamingX
[04:12] <Konsole> thanks
[04:12] <J-Wreck> there are a lot more good things then that, though
[04:12] <wers> how do I use the Qt Configuration app?
[04:12] <Glench_> so I have daa1.cab and I need to use unshield to extract it somewhere but I don't know how to do so
[04:12] <sin2gen2> Konsole:  i think compiz defaults let you click on the title bar, hold down Alt, and scroll the wheel to make any window transparent as well.  text is hard to read, however
[04:12] <Glench_> I tried reading the man page but don't get what I'm missing
[04:12] <Pelo> later folks
[04:12] <pike_> madman91: im confused :)
[04:13] <wers> I chose cleanlooks as the Qt theme but my qt apps still look the same
[04:13] <J-Wreck> sin2gen2, thats not what he wanted
[04:13] <madman91> pike_: ill pastebin all the files
[04:13] <pike_> madman91: maybe things are a bit different in feist and up
[04:13] <J-Wreck> i believe he wanted just a transparent background for the terminal
[04:13] <GamingX> As I am doing my major in CS, I was asked to install Red-Hat Linux but since I have Ubuntu, will it matter?
[04:13] <meoblast001> i think ppl who never touched a computer should be able to consider Linux over Windows
[04:13] <J-Wreck> depends on the course
[04:13] <meoblast001> sorry for being off topic but its true
[04:13] <Mr56k> Turning compiz or desktop effects messes up any videos i try to play
[04:13] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  probably.  can't really read terminals my mentioned way
[04:13] <madman91> pike_: http://paste.stgraber.org/2545  iftab
[04:13] <winblow1> hi, i'm new to ubuntu and i was wondering how do i make sure i know apt-get is getting the latest software available for my system or does it just configured to do so by default?
[04:13] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: In what ways
[04:13] <paotzu> meoblast001: people who have never touched a computer are easier to train how to use linux
[04:14] <Mr56k> im hoping in next release its fixed
[04:14] <qmf> i'm getting errors with linux-libc-dev " unable to make backup link of `./usr/include/asm/debugreg.h' before installing"
[04:14] <J-Wreck> winblow1, its getting the latest stable software
[04:14] <qmf> can't change the permissions on the file
[04:14] <Glench_> so how do I extract these files from the .cab with unshield?
[04:14] <DerangedDingo> winblow1: it updates by default. though you can update the package lists with "apt-get update"
[04:14] <J-Wreck> there may be trial/beta/testing versions that are newer
[04:14] <GamingX> !compiz
[04:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:14] <meoblast001> paotzu: i think computers should use easy terms.... i highly dought my grandma is gonna know what an activex control is
[04:14] <Mr56k> opening any divx. or avi video wont show up until i move the window a little bit. OR if i try to resize it acts weird
[04:14] <Mr56k> off everything runs great
[04:15] <Mr56k> same with dvd's
[04:15] <Glench_> !unshield
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unshield - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: I have the same problem.. i think it's just something you have to get used to... I don't think there's an uncomplicated fix
[04:15] <mikepence> can someone explain this to me
[04:15] <mikepence> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:15] <mikepence>   libmp4v2-0: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[04:15] <mikepence>               Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.0) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[04:15] <mikepence> does this mean my installed files are too new?
[04:15] <winblow1> are there any guides to setting up a software raid when installing ubuntu for the first time?
[04:15] <J-Wreck> DerangedDingo, it shouldn't be just something to live with
[04:16] <politik> Where is the proper place to put applications that I install myself, without using a package? /opt?
[04:16] <J-Wreck> i've never had that problem but i remember reading somewhere about it
[04:16] <J-Wreck> there is definitely a fix
[04:16] <Mr56k> Well it seemed ok under gutsy alpha. But I had other issues with Gutsy so went back to feisty. Hopefully final fixes everything
[04:16] <madman91> pike_: does that help.. what else do you need?
[04:16] <theurs> I have a trouble with gnome terminal and MC, Shift+F4 prints out some code and doesn't open new file for edit/ same with xterm
[04:16] <Glench_> aw man
[04:16] <DerangedDingo> J-Wreck: I understand.. but I got used to it... I'll google for guides.
[04:17] <Glench_> I got wireless working one time and I documented the whole process just in case, and now I can't use this stupid unshield package for some reason
[04:17] <sin2gen2> Mr56k:  mine did that the first time i installed Gutsy.  second time around it didn't
[04:17] <J-Wreck> either way, its up to you DerangedDingo, no one will tell you "NO! YOU HAVE TO FIX IT!"
[04:17] <J-Wreck> if you're happy with it, its fine
[04:17] <Glench_> presumably this is the only step I'm missing in the process
[04:17] <Mr56k> yea thats why im hoping once it goes final everything will be good
[04:17] <Glench_> all I need is this and wireless will be working :(
[04:18] <sin2gen2> Mr56k:  i hope so.  but there's things i can't get working in Feisty :)
[04:18] <icespider69199> i had the same problem with videos not showin up until I move the window
[04:18] <icespider69199> but disabling effects from the appearance menu fixed it
[04:18] <icespider69199> (in the gutsy alpha)
[04:18] <Mr56k> yea same here
[04:18] <Mr56k> cant use any 3d effects or it messes with video playback
[04:19] <Mr56k> kinda stinks.
[04:19] <icespider69199> every day it seems like a lot of changes are made to the gutsy alpha
[04:19] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: 2. This is a known issue for AIGLX and Xv. Try changing the default video output with the gstreamer-properties utility (to X11 - No Xv) to work around it. (this will only apply to Gstreamer-based applications such as the default Totem installed).
[04:19] <GamingX> Is installing compiz on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn recommended? I dont know anything about it....except it gives the desktop windows effects...
[04:19] <kevin_> Pelo: okay, I'm back on the installation that was crashing
[04:19] <meoblast001> any USB pro's here?
[04:19] <sin2gen2> GamingX:  go for it
[04:19] <mboldisc> 3D desktop is fun for a day.
[04:19] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/92369    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=NSp&q=How+to+fix+movie+problem+with+compiz&btnG=Search
[04:19] <kevin_> Pelo: I deleted init.d/networking and that other stuff
[04:20] <J-Wreck> GamingX, yes, i recomend it
[04:20] <Mr56k> Thanks DerangedDinger . I will just leave off effects for now
[04:20] <kevin_> Pelo: glad I didn't have to reinstall :)
[04:20] <J-Wreck> mboldisc, compiz gives a lot more then the 3D stuff
[04:20] <Mr56k> Ill try them again once GUTSY goes final
[04:20] <icespider69199> will the video problems probably be fixed by default in the gutsy final?
[04:20] <mboldisc> snowflakes?
[04:20] <J-Wreck> its not all eyecandy, its actually useful
[04:20] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: Okie doke
[04:20] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  i agree,  easy desktop navigation
[04:20] <madman91> !topic
[04:20] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[04:20] <J-Wreck> maximizing windows only vertically, for instance
[04:21] <madman91> when is gutsy's release date.. roughly?
[04:21] <Miso> do we have JRE for 64 bit ubuntu yet?
[04:21] <paotzu> isn't there a gutsy only channel
[04:21] <GamingX> madman91:October 13....
[04:21] <madman91> GamingX: not too bad :)
[04:21] <J-Wreck> #ubuntu+1 is for gutsy only
[04:21] <madman91> GamingX: thanks
[04:21] <Glench_> so no one wants to help with my wireless.unshield?
[04:22] <J-Wreck> sorry Glench_, i don't have experience with unshield
[04:22] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: I found an easy fix. I'm gonna try it as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428018
[04:22] <nephish_> Miso, i think you can get JRE, but you have to get it from Sun
[04:22] <icespider69199> here is the complete release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[04:22] <Glench_> aw dang, thanks anyway
[04:22] <L|qu|dX> Hey guys, anyone know about kernal header errors, when installing a gigabyte eth card on ubuntu server?
[04:22] <theurs> does anybody use gnome terminal and MC?
[04:22] <GamingX> why do we have to pay for RedHat Linux?
[04:23] <mboldisc> Because God only likes Ubuntu.
[04:23] <J-Wreck> GamingX, theres no law that says all linux is free
[04:23] <L|qu|dX> lol
[04:23] <pike_> GamingX: enterprise support and if ya have to learn one you should learn the environment people are hiring for.
[04:23] <pike_> GamingX: thats not really the case anymore
[04:23] <Lunis> GamingX, you only have to pay for the enterprise linux. Fedora is redhat free
[04:23] <nephish_> Miso, maybe here ? http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[04:23] <Milk_> hey guys, I feel like an idiot for asking.. but I'm trying to use sftp to move files, but there are subdirectories to move and the put command is ignoring them.. can I get around this?
[04:23] <L|qu|dX> Do I need to update to the newest kernal?
[04:23] <mboldisc> Anyone else hate Fedora package management?
[04:23] <meoblast001> Lunis: fedora sux
[04:24] <Matir> mboldisc, yep
[04:24] <Lunis> meoblast001, i suppose that's all a matter of opinion, eh?
[04:24] <sin2gen2> GamingX:  nobody will donate :)  you can get Fedora free i believe
[04:24] <J-Wreck> L|qu|dX, it can't hurt
[04:24] <meoblast001> Lunis: my server runs it and YUM takes forever to start up
[04:24] <malnilion> Does anybody know a video player that handles the .wvx extension?
[04:24] <glick> excuse me, how come cant i open more then one bit torrent file at the same time?
[04:24] <J-Wreck> yum = suck
[04:24] <mboldisc> indeed
[04:24] <glick> when i try it says port 98 is already in use
[04:24] <J-Wreck> glick, what torrent program do you use?
[04:24] <L|qu|dX> is there going to be a problem installing the newest kernal on ubuntu server?
[04:24] <yoruichi> hye
[04:24] <glick> J-Wreck, the default one
[04:25] <L|qu|dX> known issues that is
[04:25] <J-Wreck> which is (sorry, I don't remember)?
[04:25] <glick> i just click on the orrent file
[04:25] <ziroday> can someone please help me, whenever I start gdm i get the error - gnome settings daemon could not initialize
[04:25] <meoblast001> any GUI for alien??????
[04:25] <pike_> glick: your client should be able to handle more than one. sounds like youre launching multiple instances. id install deluge its a decent gui client
[04:25] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  gnome-bittorrent i think?
[04:25] <glick> yes
[04:25] <J-Wreck> personally, I like KTorrent, even on GNOME
[04:25] <Milk_> anyone?
[04:25] <sin2gen2> +1 ktorrent
[04:25] <Milk_> meoblast001, why do you need a gui for alien?
[04:25] <icespider69199> malnilion: if I remember correctly, WVX files are text files that have the URL to a wmv in them
[04:26] <genefitz> GamingX, Redhat is more for the business end. The free version of redhat is Fedora. It has most of the options and doesn't cost anything
[04:26] <meoblast001> MilK_: cuz i cant tell if its working
[04:26] <pike_> rtorrent for cli, then utorrent with wine then ktorrent or deluge in that order :)
[04:26] <meoblast001> Milk_: and its erroring
[04:26] <Milk_> meoblast001, its got some output at the CLI
[04:26] <Milk_> a gui isn't going to help erroring
[04:26] <genefitz> Well, that is, other than the time to download and install
[04:26] <sin2gen2> !deluge
[04:26] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[04:26] <glick> can i configure gnome-bittorrent to allow more connections
[04:26] <glick> ?
[04:26] <meoblast001> Milk_: but GUI generally inputs a perfect line
[04:26] <icespider69199> malnilion: I might not be right about this but you should be able to open the WVX in a text editor and just look ath the URL of the video
[04:26] <malnilion> icespider69199, indeed, and VLC's default behavior does not seem to be queueing up the various wmv files listed as I would expect it to.
[04:27] <paotzu> GamingX: now that novell and ibm are teaming up against redhat, they are going to gobble up redhat's market share anyway
[04:27] <meoblast001> well anyways... ill try to get the deb for VMWARE to work again
[04:27] <GamingX> Ok...Thanks and among these all Fedora, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and others is there any way to know which one is the best?
[04:27] <J-Wreck> glick, you most likely can, but i strongly recommend switching to a different client
[04:27] <sin2gen2> GamingX:  not rpm-based, IMHO
[04:27] <glick> which one ktorrent>?
[04:27] <J-Wreck> thats what I'd suggest
[04:27] <meoblast001> anyone here know of the sudo that affects everything in GNOME?
[04:27] <L|qu|dX> J-Wreck: any known issues installing the newest kernal on ubuntu server?
[04:27] <genefitz> GamingX: which is the best really depends on what you like..
[04:27] <icespider69199> malnilion: would it be acceptable to create a playlist in VLC with all the videos in the WVX?
[04:27] <J-Wreck> L|qu|dX, I don't believe so, but I don't use ubuntu server
[04:27] <sin2gen2> glick:  try ktorrent.  you'll like it
[04:27] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  gksudo?
[04:28] <genefitz> Personally, I use Fedora, but that is just a prefrence..
[04:28] <L|qu|dX> last question sorry
[04:28] <meoblast001> ectospasm: thanx now i can clear my cache
[04:28] <DerangedDingo> GamingX: So many distro's are there for a reason... for what people individually need.. yes it sounds like crap, but it makes it hard to judge. I heard Arch is good for tinkerers... Ubuntu is best all round I'd have to say... you get the point. Redhat for business and servers, etc
[04:28] <J-Wreck> lol, feel free to ask as many as you want
[04:28] <J-Wreck> thats why we're here
[04:28] <KoPaCh> nick yoj
[04:28] <meoblast001> ectospasm: synaptic cant find it
[04:28] <L|qu|dX> J-Wreck: is there a step by step process to read to update the newest kernal?
[04:28] <malnilion> icespider69199, yeah, but if I have wvx's I'd like it to go ahead and queue all the videos up itself and cut out some unnecessary work...
[04:28] <Ketterman> hey, how di set my beryl to launch at boot up?
[04:28] <redwullf> So, I'm about to take the plunge and expunge Windows XP off a laptop and put Ubuntu in its place. However, I'm concerned that ndiswrapper might not cut it for wireless connectivity.
[04:29] <DerangedDingo> J-Wrck: Ubuntu updates the kernel with synaptic every month or two
[04:29] <redwullf> Anyone here had success with it? I already know there are no drivers for my wi-fi card.
[04:29] <DerangedDingo> oops
[04:29] <sin2gen2> Ketterman:  depends on the window manager.  what one do you use?
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[04:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:29] <J-Wreck> what kernel are you using now?
[04:29] <riotkittie> Ketterman:  add it to your session.  if youre under GNOME ... System > Preferences > Session
[04:29] <paotzu> all any linux distro is a install programs, libraries of packages, and an organization/philosophy on what packages go in
[04:29] <Emperor_Ownage> KHobbits
[04:29] <Emperor_Ownage> sup man
[04:29] <KHobbits> yup
[04:29] <DerangedDingo> L|qu|dX: Ubuntu updates the kernel with synaptic every month or two.. it's not something you need to worry about
[04:29] <Emperor_Ownage> dis is kewlio
[04:29] <KHobbits> told you it was one big chan ;)
[04:29] <riotkittie> redwullf: what kinda wireless are you working with ?
[04:30] <redwullf> It's the built-in in an older Gateway MX3215 laptop.
[04:30] <redwullf> A Broadcom 802.11g
[04:30] <bulmer> whoaa a 7.9 magnitude hit Peru..
[04:30] <L|qu|dX> ok so thats a dead end for the gigbyte card
[04:30] <Emperor_Ownage> WEWT
[04:30] <L|qu|dX> hrmmm
[04:30] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  um, what do you think the program is that runs when you first run synaptic?  The password prompt is gksudo
[04:30] <meoblast001> how does one get gksudo?????
[04:30] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  you already have it
[04:31] <meoblast001> ectospasm: well it doesnt do that when i try to delete files
[04:31] <DerangedDingo> Oh.. that reminds me. Does anyone know if it's possible to boot ubuntu with a different kernel.. say, the linux ARCH kernel, if I wanted to get more power out of my P4?
[04:31] <riotkittie> redwullf: ah. ndiswrapper should be fine.  then again, i've i've never had to touch it :P
[04:31] <redwullf> Heh. Try and see, I suppose.
[04:31] <sin2gen2> redwullf:  do a 'sudo lspci'.  what chipset?
[04:31] <genefitz> paotzu, I agree, however it seems that every distro has i't own little personality and quirks. I do think some are better engineered than others, and some a re definately more user friendly than others..
[04:31] <riotkittie> i need a new wireless usb adapter. or maybe i should cave and put a card in. being limited to WEP is kinda lame :|
[04:32] <redwullf> sin2gen2: Not installed on the laptop yet.
[04:32] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  no, it won't do that
[04:32] <J-Wreck> riotkittie, WEP is not anywhere near as secure as WPA, you should definitely change as soon as you can
[04:32] <redwullf> Worrying about losing wi-fi has held me back so far.
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[04:32] <Geek_> !op
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[04:32] <redwullf> Can someone kick that guy?
[04:32] <meoblast001> ectospasm: well... i need to clear my apt cache
[04:32] <Geek_> thanks
[04:32] <J-Wreck> nice
[04:33] <sin2gen2> redwullf:  ah.  well an install cd will tell you if it is supported, of course
[04:33] <redwullf> Good point, let me try that now...
[04:33] <ziroday> can someone please help me, whenever I start gdm i get the error - gnome settings daemon could not initialize, during this error the startup process is really slow and i cant access nautilus or gnome panels afterwards
[04:33] <riotkittie> J-Wreck: yeah, i've been looking around but i'm hoping to pick something up cheap. we've dumped way too much $$ into computer related stuff in recent weeks :|
[04:34] <J-Wreck> riotkittie, you can probably pick up one second hand fairly cheap
[04:34] <riotkittie> i'm a moron for not having thought to check compatability before buying the one i have right now. doh.
[04:34] <J-Wreck> try ebay, maybe?
[04:34] <riotkittie> J-Wreck: yeah, i'm keeping an eye on ebay :P
[04:35] <sin2gen2> redwullf:  i, personally, haven't had a lot of luck with ndiswrapper.  hopefully some driver code is out there for yours
[04:36] <genefitz> sin2gen2: I have found that wireless kits are kind of the problem child of linux, (all distros)
[04:36] <J-Wreck> genefitz, that's true, but its not the Linux's sides fault
[04:36] <genefitz> I guess there just isn't a standard generic meeting point for wireless
[04:36] <sin2gen2> riotkittie:  craigslist is nice for cheap computer related stuff.  a lot of people don't even know that they have ($15 WRT54G v3 last week haha)
[04:37] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i agree.  it is the one part i can't really do without
[04:37] <genefitz> J-Wreck, I agree, it is the manufacturers not picking up in the trend..
[04:37] <L|qu|dX> error we get when trying to install the NIC card drivers is : check for kernal header files NOT FOUND
[04:37] <J-Wreck> of all the people I know, i've only had one person have WPA work out of the box
[04:37] <genefitz> They will see, now that linux is more popular than ever, gaining more and more "standard" (home) users
[04:38] <J-Wreck> hopefully
[04:38] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  i blame AMD.  oh wait, wireless right heh
[04:38] <J-Wreck> lol
[04:38] <genefitz> sin2gen, lol
[04:38] <mboldisc> w00t SCO is sunk! :-P
[04:39] <Geek_> yay
[04:39] <J-Wreck> btw, people; http://www.petitiononline.com/appleodf/petition.html
[04:39] <L|qu|dX> anyone?
[04:39] <genefitz> You know though, I never had a problem with AMD and linux. Now the mainboards for them were a different story..
[04:40] <qiyong> is there any good webmail? i use postfix+dovecot.
[04:40] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i have three machines using fglrx
[04:40] <mneptok> J-Wreck: WPA woorks flawlessly on all my home machines.
[04:40] <icespider69199> I still haven't figured out a way to use WPA unless I choose "roaming mode" and enable DHCP on the router
[04:40] <J-Wreck> lucky you mneptok
[04:40] <J-Wreck> =\
[04:40] <mneptok> qiyong: Round Cube?
[04:40] <J-Wreck> I wish i had your luck
[04:40] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i just want AIGLX!  haha, can't complain about anything else at all
[04:40] <mneptok> J-Wreck: it's not luck. it's hardware research prior to purchase.
[04:40] <ziroday> J-Wreck: did you try the wpa supplicant package
[04:40] <qiyong> mneptok, i need to support japanese lang
[04:41] <J-Wreck> ziroday, mine works fine now, I'm just saying it didn't work out of the box
[04:41] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I can feel ya there..
[04:41] <yoj> :)
[04:41] <fsckr> !nvdeco
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvdeco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <yoj> sam nedhto misala :)
[04:41] <J-Wreck> and mneptok, lots of people buy the hardware when they use Windows, then decide to switch
[04:41] <riotkittie> i never had a prob using wpa
[04:41] <fsckr> !nvidiadeco
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidiadeco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <fsckr> ugh
[04:41] <J-Wreck> hence the lack of checking for compatibility
[04:42] <killer_hobbits> i think this channel, is a bit too much for my mirc to deal with -.-
[04:42] <J-Wreck> XChat FTW
[04:42] <riotkittie> cough*irssi*cough
[04:42] <qiyong> dho_ragus , why you recomment roundecube, instead of squirrelmail or sqwebmail, etc? techII
[04:43] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I understand, I just built a computer yesterday as a dedicated linux box. First time in years I have bought an Intel processor..
[04:43] <aajvs99> is anyone interested in developing a new linux distro with me?
[04:43] <mneptok> qiyong: http://oss.poyo.jp/roundcube-ja/ - yattemitara
[04:43] <moyer> anyone use cairo-clock... if so how do i remove the ugly black background, i dont want to set my desk wallpaper to black.. but it looks dumb if i dont.. can i remove it somehow?
[04:43] <crdlb> moyer, you need to use a composite manager
[04:43] <aajvs99> iyep
[04:43] <aajvs99> yep
[04:43] <crdlb> (read: beryl/compiz)
[04:43] <riotkittie> moyer: i'm unfamiliar with it, but is there, perhaps, a config file? maybe in ~/.cairo?  ro something similar.
[04:44] <edubuntu> err
[04:44] <riotkittie> oh nm.
[04:44] <moyer> i dont know what that is crdlb : but thanks
[04:44] <moyer> :)
[04:44] <aajvs99> yah you need a compositor
[04:44] <moyer> oo new stuff to learn :)
[04:45] <riotkittie> do Desktop Effects not play nice with Xinerama?
[04:45] <genefitz> Now I am just in the process of moving media from my M$ computer to my linux box
[04:45] <wolferine> riotkittie, what makes you say that?
[04:45] <moyer> whaatt image editing... pfft im not artist
[04:46] <aajvs99> anybody interested in creating a new linux distro?
[04:46] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  mention M$ again and get banned :)  ooooh if i had the power here!  but i don't
[04:46] <mneptok> qiyong: suki desu ka?
[04:46] <genefitz> riotkittie, I always had issues with compiz and beryl in Ubuntu
[04:46] <moyer> aajvs99 :i would love to, but i dont know enough yet
[04:46] <J-Wreck> aajvs99, you sure you up for it? It won't be some knock-off with just different art and packages?
[04:47] <qiyong> mneptok, suki?
[04:47] <aajvs99> no
[04:47] <aajvs99> debian based
[04:47] <J-Wreck> whats your goal with it
[04:47] <genefitz> sin2gen2, lol, well, you know how it is..
[04:47] <aajvs99> is the goal
[04:47] <sin2gen2> riotkittie:  mine works under beryl
[04:47] <qiyong> mneptok, suse?
[04:47] <mneptok> qiyong: "do you like it?"
[04:47] <qiyong> mneptok, no
[04:47] <aajvs99> i want it to be the first with compiz fusion
[04:47] <aajvs99> pre installed
[04:47] <J-Wreck> well, i'd love to help but i don't know if i know enough
[04:47] <sin2gen2> riotkittie:  but if i open some window over it is SLOWS down
[04:47] <Stik> Theres already 1.5k debian based distros.. why another?
[04:47] <riotkittie> ah
[04:47] <aajvs99> well if u can do artwork thats a help
[04:47] <aajvs99> gotta start somewhere
[04:48] <J-Wreck> ha, sorry, i can't do art at all
[04:48] <genefitz> sin2gen2, besides, call it a huge step in the right direction, from dual boot, to all by itself. Now my linux has 300 gigs to play with.. All for itself :-)
[04:48] <moyer> compiz fusion pre-installed would be cool
[04:48] <madman91> HOW Do i start a program each time i boot.. (command line ubuntu)
[04:48] <madman91> even before i login
[04:48] <mneptok> moyer: #ubuntu+1
[04:48] <madman91> in a screen session
[04:48] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  it will be a happy linux box
[04:48] <aajvs99> im lookin for developers
[04:48] <wolferine> madman91, well, you could use crontab
[04:48] <aajvs99> just think
[04:48] <mneptok> madman91: init.d
[04:48] <meoblast001> can VMware run previously isntalled OS's???
[04:48] <moyer> what?
[04:48] <aajvs99> you can have an os that is fit for you
[04:48] <madman91> mneptok: do i just put stuff in there?
[04:48] <wolferine> aajvs99, developers for what?
[04:48] <aajvs99> my distro
[04:49] <riotkittie> lol. ubuntu install has. uhm. 10 of my 340gb :x
[04:49] <wolferine> that doesnt appeal to me
[04:49] <mneptok> madman91: no, you read about how to do it correctly.
[04:49] <J-Wreck> what kind of stuff do they need to be able to do?
[04:49] <sin2gen2> meoblast001:  vm images can be imported, but i do not believe you can create an image from a running OS
[04:49] <madman91> mneptok: alrighty.. thanks
[04:49] <mneptok> !offtopic | aajvs99
[04:49] <ubotu> aajvs99: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:49] <genefitz> sin2gen, I hope it is, dual core, 2 gigs ram, 300 gig hard drive, and hey, to get a decent desktop, I only had to spend $50 for a 6100LE vice the $200 I paid for my other computer's 7950GT
[04:49] <xtknight> meoblast001,  p2v (physical to virtual), perhaps
[04:49] <aajvs99> this is not random
[04:50] <xtknight> meoblast001, but yes it can also dangerously read off a phyical disk and run that OS
[04:50] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  nice
[04:50] <mneptok> aajvs99: please do not use the public support channel to trawl for developers.
[04:50] <meoblast001> xtknight: what????
[04:50] <wolferine> aajvs99, its more suited in a different channel
[04:50] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i dig the dual core stuff
[04:50] <wers> how do I sync my evolution with my google calendar?
[04:50] <redwullf> sin2gen2: Still there?
[04:50] <xtknight> meoblast001, you can run already-installed OSes, it's just strongly not recommended
[04:50] <wolferine> trawl?
[04:50] <wolferine> hehe
[04:50] <pvl> is there a relationship between redhat linux and ubuntu?
[04:50] <meoblast001> xtknight: im only doing it to run 2 programs
[04:50] <J-Wreck> pvl, only that they both use the Linux kernel
[04:50] <wolferine> no, no relationship, Ubuntu is debian based
[04:50] <mneptok> pvl: yes. both are made by freedom loving humans.
[04:50] <madman91> mneptok: can i make a script like that run before any user logs in?
[04:50] <xtknight> meoblast001, wine won't work for them?
[04:51] <redwullf> The network controller is a "Boradcom Corp. BCM4318"
[04:51] <genefitz> sin2gen2, beauty of linux, I can do with a 1.9 pentium D what my other computer needed a 64X2 5200, and the linux box does everything faster
[04:51] <mneptok> madman91: that's what init is for
[04:51] <meoblast001> xtknight: no FL studio and Flash MX
[04:51] <sayers> is there a way I can upgrade to gutsy from 7.04?
[04:51] <pvl> j-wreck well would driver files work for both?
[04:51] <riotkittie> freedom, schreedom.
[04:51] <pvl> lol
[04:51] <sin2gen2> xtknight:  meoblast001: no way!  i'll check it out. sorry for the bad info
[04:51] <xtknight> !upgrade | sayers
[04:51] <ubotu> sayers: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:51] <redwullf> I've already checked on the wi-fi compatibility table in the Ubuntu Wiki and it suggested ndiswrapper with "mixed results."
[04:51] <xtknight> sin2gen2, dont work aobut it.  you're effectively right.  you should never run an OS off the physical disk anyway
[04:52] <J-Wreck> pvl i believe so
[04:52] <sin2gen2> xtknight:  yeah, but i have to play :)
[04:52] <mneptok> wolferine: i work with RH people every day. i count many as friends.
[04:52] <sin2gen2> xtknight:  haha
[04:52] <wolferine> mneptok, ok....
[04:52] <pvl> j-wreck ok ty
[04:52] <J-Wreck> np
[04:52] <riotkittie> there's too much love in this channel.
[04:52] <xtknight> meoblast001, ok well among driver problems you will risk data loss because it's at the mercy of vmware, and it's directly accessing the disk rather than one little image.  are you sure you dont just want to install it into a VM?
[04:52] <aajvs99> well if anyone is interested head over to http://avs.yfma.com/forum/
[04:52] <wolferine> dont mistake love for cheese :)
[04:53] <J-Wreck> **** off riotkittie
[04:53] <J-Wreck> better?
[04:53] <mneptok> wolferine: the employees of Canonical and RH both believe we're engaged in coopetition, not competition.
[04:53] <genefitz> lol J-Wreck
[04:53] <riotkittie> well i never :o
[04:53] <meoblast001> xtknight: do i have a choice when windows was preinstalled
[04:53] <redwullf> meoblast001: I'm running Ubuntu in VMWare...runs great and it's "risk free"
[04:53] <sayers> xtknight, didnt help much :)
[04:53] <xtknight> meoblast001, sure
[04:53] <xtknight> sayers, whY?
[04:53] <wolferine> competition is good, it can bring out the best in ppl
[04:53] <riotkittie> risk is fun :D
[04:53] <xtknight> sayers, gksu update-manager -c -d
[04:53] <xtknight> sayers, i believe
[04:54] <sayers> xtknight, 7.04 to 7.10
[04:54] <xtknight> sayers, add -c for experimental ubuntus
[04:54] <ectospasm> anyone know of a debian/ubuntu equivalent to Red Hat's logwatch?
[04:54] <genefitz> Here's an off the wall question, well, not really off the wall.
[04:54] <redwullf> riotkittie: Not with all of my other precious data on the Mac it isn't. ;)
[04:54] <B_166-ER-X> Am i the only one who doesnt have 'skyrocket' screensaver in Xscreensavers ?
[04:54] <riotkittie> you havent lived til youve totally hosed your data at least once
[04:54] <meoblast001> redwullf: the thing is... Windows runs slow... so i want to be able to stuff while i wait for windows to start
[04:54] <wolferine> o dpmt
[04:54] <mneptok> ectospasm: err .... "logwatch?"
[04:54] <wolferine> ops
[04:54] <wolferine> i dont*
[04:54] <ProN00b> omg, screensaver is so annoying, it always goes on when i am playing games or movies
[04:54] <mneptok> !info logwatch
[04:54] <ubotu> logwatch: log analyser with nice output written in Perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.3.1-5 (feisty), package size 243 kB, installed size 1864 kB
[04:54] <Frogzoo> B_166-ER-X: rss-glx
[04:54] <xtknight> sayers, er, add -d (devel) for expermeintal upgrades, rather.  gksu update-manager -c -d
[04:54] <mneptok> ectospasm: ^^^^
[04:54] <redwullf> meoblast001: Why not just replace Windows altogether. Do away with it. :)
[04:55] <sin2gen2> ProN00b:  yeah it i
[04:55] <sin2gen2> s
[04:55] <genefitz> Day, I have a hard drive moving from my <other> computer, to my linuz box, I am planning on formatting it to linux, what would be the best utility? GParted?
[04:55] <B_166-ER-X> Frogzoo,  thats the thing, i have the package installed, i dont understand why its not showing up
[04:55] <Frogzoo> mneptok: logwatch or swatch ???
[04:55] <J-Wreck> genefitz, that should be fine
[04:55] <sayers> xtknight, nope :)
[04:55] <asb002> I can't seem to get the Ubuntu cd to boot up on my laptop (Thinkpad T61)  It starts, and only goes to a blank black screen. The disc checks out and boots fine on another machine. Can anyone help?
[04:55] <Frogzoo> B_166-ER-X: read /usr/share/doc/rss-glx/
[04:55] <J-Wreck> Gparted is great
[04:55] <mneptok> Frogzoo: logwatch
[04:55] <wolferine> ProN00b, change the timing?
[04:55] <riotkittie> gparted is fine. i prefer the stand alone live cd version, tho.
[04:55] <meoblast001> redwullf: i will when Linux has the programs i need
[04:56] <wolferine> ProN00b, or are you really that much of a b00n ?
[04:56] <meoblast001> redwullf: when i release my own fancy pants OS i never started yet
[04:56] <redwullf> meoblast001: Wine may help fill the gap.
[04:56] <sin2gen2> someone in the gentoo channel is griping about emerge taking too long.  that's why i hang out with you guys
[04:56] <redwullf> LOL
[04:56] <meoblast001> redwullf: tried it
[04:56] <Frogzoo> mneptok: I mean have you tried both?
[04:56] <J-Wreck> lol@ sin2gen2
[04:56] <genefitz> J-Wreck, cool, I have a 750 Baracuda in my other box that has now become, well, an $800 19" widescreen TV/PVR. I don't figure I need the Cuda in there anymore..
[04:56] <J-Wreck> and we're more attractive
[04:56] <mneptok> Frogzoo: i run logwatch exclusively as it's what we have deplayed on GNOME infrastructure
[04:57] <mneptok> *deployed
[04:57] <sin2gen2> ya'll so pretty
[04:57] <meoblast001> i only switched to Linux cuz Windows was SLOW
[04:57] <riotkittie> looner: because ATI hates you. and me. :x    what kind of card, and what route are you taking to set dual monitors up?
[04:57] <meoblast001> but i still use WinDOS sometimes
[04:57] <xtknight> sayers, well other than "nope" it would really be helpful to have some kind of information
[04:58] <xtknight> sorry that is a lttle annoying
[04:58] <sin2gen2> meoblast001:  i'd mention why i switched but i can't flood
[04:58] <meoblast001> WinDOS -- a way of saying Windows is nothing more than DOS
[04:58] <looner> following the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[04:58] <Geek_> windows is more than dos ;)
[04:58] <sayers> xtknight, uncomfortable chair sorry :), okay No it does not give me an option to upgrade to 7.10, I believe because it isnt reading from the gutsy respos?
[04:58] <looner> it fails when i have the aticonfig --add-pairmode=whatever...   aticonfig --list-pairmode shows 0 always
[04:59] <B_166-ER-X> Frogzoo,  nice, thanks :)
[04:59] <meoblast001> Geek_: Windows doesn't have much usefullness though... its been running on the same basic stuff for years without edits
[04:59] <Geek_> erm
[04:59] <riotkittie> ahh. i don't use ati's driver :|
[04:59] <Geek_> windows was revamped at least once
[04:59] <xtknight> sayers, well there's also the manual method
[04:59] <xtknight> sayers, replacing 'feisty' with 'gutsy' in sources.list, and running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:59] <riotkittie> LoL. i feel masochistic. i might as well try to get dual monitors going on this box. brb.
[04:59] <sayers> xtknight, I trust the interface :)
[04:59] <looner> which do you use?
[04:59] <Geek_> and technically, linux is based on 60s fundamentals, designwise ;)
[04:59] <XPIRX> I need help setting up xserver on a remote server. vnc is setup but i get an error. all i see is this -- http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6176/42857482kc3.jpg Can anyone help?
[05:00] <xtknight> sayers, and i'd remove all extra repos other than official ubuntu repos.  "gksu update-manager -c -d" should be working, if it's not i have no idea.  pretty sure that's all you do normally
[05:00] <genefitz> riotkittie, are you using an nVidia card?
[05:00] <wolferine> XPIRX, are you logging into the box, before you VNC in?
[05:00] <XPIRX> wolferine Yes, im logged into via ssh.
[05:00] <redwullf> Geek_: I know, isn't it great.
[05:00] <XPIRX> in*
[05:00] <redwullf> Lots has changed since the 60's.
[05:00] <qiyong> what info roundcube stores in db?
[05:00] <wolferine> XPIRX, you should login to the box
[05:00] <riotkittie> genefitz: what part of 'feeling masochistic' did you miss? :P no, i'm using an ati.
[05:00] <xtknight> sayers, oh replace "feisty" with "gutsy" (sources.list), "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:00] <wolferine> XPIRX, then try and vnc in
[05:01] <genefitz> riotkittie, sorry, I didn't see the ATI part..
[05:01] <XPIRX> wolferine What you mean?
[05:01] <riotkittie> x300 to be exact. :|  i might take my husband's fancy schmancy nvidia tho.
[05:01] <wolferine> XPIRX, log into the server, then VNC into it, remotely
[05:01] <riotkittie> if it will work in this box.
[05:01] <genefitz> riotkittie, lol, just make sure he doesn't catch you
[05:01] <looner> i just want to install a version of linux that has dual monitor support with 3d enabled with as little work as possible. I've done many years of off and on tweaking, hacking, yelling screaming and crying... I just want to use the system to do some work now.... and preferably not windows, otherwise i wouldn't be here ;)
[05:02] <redwullf> Looner: Get a Mac.
[05:02] <XPIRX> wolferine Its remote
[05:02] <wolferine> looner, obviously its going to take some work
[05:02] <ziroday> looner: what cards?
[05:02] <redwullf> It'll dry those tears right up.
[05:02] <looner> x1600 radeon
[05:02] <wolferine> XPIRX, well, you have to login for it to allow the VNC properly
[05:02] <meoblast001> if im doing this VM crap im backing up my important stuff to my server
[05:02] <sin2gen2> looner:  i doubt any of that will work out of the box in linux.  but Ubuntu has the best forums to get it working