[10:31] <razordead> alexkreuz: that's pretty funny
[10:31] <SegFaultAX> i just downloaded the 672m alternate cd in 4.3 minutes
[10:32] <SegFaultAX> not bad
[10:32] <bazhang> alexkreuz: install it first ;]
[10:32] <incorrect> i am not at my ubuntu box, however i want to get a copy of the kernel config
[10:32] <lollo> but .. the swap works only if the RAM is full or in other situations ?
[10:33] <Imaginal> Using nautilis for ftp, I can add and delete files... but I can't move them without permission errors. Any ideas?
[10:33] <oboy03> why do i have black squares on firefox, specially on yahoo.com
[10:33] <up_the_irons> hey guys
[10:34] <SegFaultAX> imaginal, check the "other" attributes
[10:34] <bruciemoose> stib: there's a Cider, but it's for Mac users running Windows stuff
[10:34] <gary4gar>  Okay here my question third time :). I installed windows xp yesterday, so it overwrited MBR, now i have booted into Ubuntu 7.10 via live cd & carried the procedure defined in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, but its failed in the last step, when it runs emed command twice times( msg was, error but not fatal) , also my dmesg output shows some I/O errors. demsg output ==> http://gary4gar.googlepages.com/dmesg
[10:34] <up_the_irons> quick question: dpkg -C shows there's one unconfigured package.  I want to say "just forget about it", and have it delete the package, so apt-get will work again
[10:34] <up_the_irons> how do i do that?
[10:34] <stib> bruciemoose: nothing the other way around.. I'm kind of surprised
[10:34] <meezfoghi> razordead: here that output....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55193/
[10:34] <Imaginal> SegFaultAX: what does that mean?
[10:35] <meezfoghi> thank..
[10:35] <nemilar> up_the_irons: have you tried configuring it with dpkg --configure -a ?
[10:35] <lollo> the swap works only if the RAM is full ? there are other situations ?
[10:35] <yousif> Hi all. Can anyone help me with my home wireless network. i ve tried to modify wpa_supplicant.conf but it is still not working.  I am using wpa2-psk security
[10:36] <up_the_irons> nemilar: yes, but there's dependency problems
[10:36] <nemilar> lollo: that's the basic idea, but not always when it's full... for example if you have 50MB of RAM left, but a program wants 80MB of memory, it'll usually bypass the 50 and go straight to swap
[10:37] <nemilar> up_the_irons: do you have the .deb file ?
[10:37] <up_the_irons> nemilar: it doesn't seem to, easily, let me say "ok, i have dependency problems, so forget about it, don't install the package and forget you tried"
[10:37] <up_the_irons> nemilar: yes i have the .deb
[10:37] <razordead> meezfoghi: this line says there's an FTP server already running & you'd need to uninstall it before the new one you're trying to install will work... tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:21              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN
[10:37] <nemilar> up_the_irons: give gdebi a try
[10:37] <lollo> wow nemi you know so much things ! thx !
[10:37] <nemilar> up_the_irons: gdebi-gtk file.deb
[10:37] <gary4gar> Okay here my question 4th time :|. I installed windows xp yesterday, so it overwrited MBR, now i have booted into Ubuntu 7.10 via live cd & carried the procedure defined in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, but its failed in the last step, when it runs emed command twice times( msg was, error but not fatal) , also my dmesg output shows some I/O errors. demsg output ==> http://gary4gar.googlepages.com/dmesg .
[10:37] <nemilar> gary4gar: please stop doing that.
[10:37] <up_the_irons> nemilar: oh i don't have gtk or anything installed, it's a server
[10:37] <gary4gar> anyone ?
[10:38] <nemilar> up_the_irons: oh true
[10:38] <SegFaultAX> where is the installation page for beryl now?
[10:38] <nemilar> up_the_irons: it won't let you dpkg -r  ?
[10:38] <SegFaultAX> the link on the beryl site is dead
[10:38] <nemilar> SegFaultAX: compiz-fusion is the composite manager these days 8) all the cool kids are doing it
[10:38] <up_the_irons> nemilar: what i've done until now is remove the package with --force-depends, and then reinstall the "good" version
[10:39] <up_the_irons> nemilar: i guess i'll just have to keep doing that
[10:39] <stib> gary4gar: there are about four different methods there, which did you use?
[10:39] <gary4gar> stib: all :(
[10:39] <nemilar> up_the_irons: there's definitely a solution, SOSTM would be able to help you
[10:39] <gary4gar> stib: i am worried about those nasty errors :S
[10:39] <up_the_irons> nemilar: but yeah, dpkg -r complains too
[10:39] <stib> so what happens when you boot?
[10:39] <meezfoghi> razordead: ok..how to uninstall  ftp server.....i dont know another ftp server install on my machine
[10:40] <stib> gary4gar: what happens when you boot?
[10:40] <up_the_irons> nemilar: sostm?
[10:40] <gary4gar> stib: nothing, no sign of grub :p
[10:40] <nemilar> up_the_irons: someone smarter than me
[10:40] <up_the_irons> nemilar: haha
[10:40] <up_the_irons> nemilar: ok :)
[10:40] <stib> gary4gar: : are you sure you got the right hard drive?
[10:41] <razordead> meezfoghi: try searching Synaptic for ftpd & see if there's another one marked as installed
[10:41] <gary4gar> stib: means?
[10:42] <meezfoghi> razordead: ok i check 1st ..thanks
[10:42] <gary4gar> stib: My hdd is Seagate ST380815AS
[10:42] <stib> gary4gar:  when you install grub, you have to tell it what drive to install to (usully it's (HD0,0) meaning the first partition of the first hard drive.
[10:42] <stib> gary4gar: what did you type when you installed grub?
[10:42] <gary4gar> stib: i tried using live cd
[10:43] <stib> gary4gar:  tried what?
[10:43] <gary4gar> stib: sudo grub, root (hd0,1) & setup (hd0,1)
[10:44] <gary4gar> stib: i am more worried about this error in dmesg, yte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
[10:44] <gary4gar> [  238.637426] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 31455263
[10:44] <gary4gar> [  238.637432] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
[10:44] <gebura> your drive must have hardware problem :(
[10:44] <SegFaultAX> ubuntu does not have an ok prompt does it?
[10:45] <nemilar> Gary: I agree with gebura, suspect hardware
[10:45] <malis> ciaoo
[10:45] <yousif> guys can anyone help me please?
[10:45] <nemilar> !ask
[10:45] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:45] <alexkreuz> how to i exit x-server so that i can install nvidia drivers?
[10:45] <stib> yousif: not if you don't tell us what the problem is
[10:46] <gebura> alexkreuz, go on console (ctrl + alt + {1,2,3...}
[10:46] <gebura> login
[10:46] <yousif> ok sorry
[10:46] <gary4gar> gebura: but is the problem, then i will give it for RMA, but they will ask me whats the problem
[10:46] <gebura> type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:46] <alexkreuz> gebura, if i type that
[10:46] <yousif> i am trying to find the right configuration for wpa_supplicant.conf
[10:46] <alexkreuz> how do i restart x?
[10:46] <alexkreuz> startx?
[10:46] <gebura> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:46] <nemilar> alexkreuz: use /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:46] <arne_> Hello, do someone here know how i can install the flash plugin for opera in 7.10?
[10:46] <nemilar> yeah sudo is important.
[10:46] <yousif> i have wpa-psk security
[10:46] <alexkreuz> alright thx
[10:46] <meezfoghi> razordead: i already remove all ftpd...and here mu netstat output...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55194/...what i need to do
[10:47] <yousif> i mean wpa2-psk security
[10:48] <razordead> meezfoghi: I know there's a command that will tell you what program is listening on that port, but I just can't remember what the command is... maybe someone else here knows
[10:48] <nemilar> razordead: you looking for nmap?
[10:48] <moad> i need an IM client that supports webcams
[10:48] <razordead> nemilar: there's something much easier, actually
[10:48] <kimmey2k3> moad: try amsn
[10:48] <nemilar> razordead: oh, I know what you're talking about
[10:48] <moad> other than amsn
[10:49] <nemilar> razordead: I can't remember it though... I know exactly what you're talking about, too
[10:49] <kimmey2k3> moad: kopete supports webcam i think
[10:49] <razordead> nemilar: it also tells you what program has a file open
[10:49] <nemilar> it's gotta be one of the ls commands
[10:49] <nemilar> lsof displays open files
[10:49] <razordead> nemilar: that's the one
[10:49] <popey> razordead: netstat
[10:50] <meezfoghi> razordead: i try reinstall vsftpd
[10:50] <yousif> i m using this configuration http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55195/
[10:50] <razordead> meezfoghi: hang on a second
[10:50] <nemilar> razordead: how would you get lsof to tell you what port something is using?
[10:50] <meezfoghi> razordead: ok
[10:50] <popey> nemilar: it's netstat, not lsof
[10:51] <razordead> nemilar:  lsof -i :<portnum>
[10:51] <nemilar> popey: yeah I know about netstat.. but razordead is suggesting lsof can identify a port, which I believe
[10:51] <citm> how can i install these repositiries so i can install the software to watch flv video files?
[10:51] <citm> cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/dists/gutsy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[10:51] <citm> cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/dists/gutsy/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[10:51] <citm> cheers, ahh damn sorry :/
[10:51] <alexkreuz> well that didnt work
[10:51] <nemilar> razordead: I don't think that works
[10:52] <razordead> meezfoghi: run this command & it will tell you what program is listening on your FTP port...  lsof -i :21
[10:52] <alexkreuz> so i installed the latest nvidia linux drivers off the nvidia site
[10:52] <razordead> nemilar: try it, I just did it... I've used it many times
[10:52] <alexkreuz> and now my ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode
[10:52] <alexkreuz> and cant seem to use the drivers
[10:52] <nemilar> razordead: I've got apache running on port 1337, it doesn't give me anything
[10:52] <alexkreuz> or something
[10:52] <popey> alexkreuz: why not use the nvidia driver in the repo?
[10:52] <alexkreuz> hmm
[10:52] <incorrect> if i ran up a game server, would i want a preemptible kernel?
[10:52] <nemilar> razordead: I think it only picks up open connections
[10:52] <alexkreuz> well im new to linux so let me throw it out there
[10:53] <razordead> nemilar: try as root?
[10:53] <alexkreuz> basically i was running cedega
[10:53] <popey> !nvidia
[10:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:53] <alexkreuz> and my guild wars was running like shit
[10:53] <alexkreuz> 15 fps
[10:53] <nemilar> razordead: :D smart
[10:53] <alexkreuz> so i thought, let me get the latest drivers
[10:53] <citm> !youtube
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <citm> !flv
[10:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:53] <alexkreuz> the drivers running before were the ones installed by ubuntu for me
[10:53] <razordead> meezfoghi: ok, new command... sudo  lsof -i :21
[10:53] <bert_> how do I check which ports are open and which not using iptables ?
[10:54] <sudo> I have kubuntu on lap-top Asus. Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller. There's no sound. What should I do?
[10:54] <erUSUL> bert_: you can't iptables can not be used to check ports
[10:54] <ahmadinejad> YELLO! WHAT IS THIS TROLLMANIA ALL ABOUT
[10:54] <ahmadinejad> ?
[10:54] <ahmadinejad> EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT TROLLS IN ALL CHATROOMS
[10:54] <nemilar> oh come on, not this guy again
[10:54] <ahmadinejad> I WANT A TROLL TOO
[10:54] <bert_> and how do I open certain ports with iptables ?
[10:54] <popey> !ops ahmadinejad
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops ahmadinejad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <erUSUL> !ops | ahmadinejad
[10:54] <ubotu> ahmadinejad: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[10:54] <nemilar> Any ops here??
[10:54] <popey> :)
[10:54] <alexkreuz> how do i update my video drivers via synaptic?
[10:54] <alexkreuz> whats the name of the package?
[10:55] <Mez> him again ?
[10:55] <simplechat> ?
[10:55] <nemilar> he was here last night, or maybe the night before
[10:55] <nemilar> doing the same garbage
[10:55] <erUSUL> alexkreuz: depends on your graphic card but if they are installed they will be upgraded automatically
[10:55] <meezfoghi> razordead: here....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55196/
[10:55] <moad> searching for a client that supports webcam else than Amsn
[10:55] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> I have kubuntu on lap-top Asus. Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller. There's no sound. What should I do?
[10:56] <meezfoghi> razordead: but i have already remove vsftpd
[10:56] <razordead> meezfoghi: try killing the process, then install vsftpd again
[10:56] <yousif> i m trying to configure the wireless network. at the moment i m using this configuration. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55195/ i m using WPA2-PSK. thanks in advance
[10:57] <erUSUL> !sound | ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL
[10:57] <ubotu> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:57] <razordead> meezfoghi: make sure that command returns nothing before you try installing again
[10:58] <moad> searching for a client that supports webcam else than Amsn
[10:59] <bert_> moad, kopete does
[10:59] <meezfoghi> razordead: ok.. its return nothing...ok right now install vsftpd again...thank a lot
[10:59] <dns53> moad: skype 2 beta does and to capture/record cheese works
[10:59] <bert_> but I'm having some troubble with the cams myself, I need to open some ports I think, does anyone now how to open ports ?
[11:00] <ArthurArchnix> Hi... just moved to Finland and I'm trying to enable the Euro key. It's a standard US english laptop keyboard, and I go into >system >preferences >keyboard and check the box that says 'add Euro key to number 5'. But I can't get it to actually work for the life of me.
[11:00] <erUSUL> bert_: if you didn't explicity closed them you do not have to open them (on ubuntu). If you use a router you have to enable nat and pot forwarding on the router but that's offtopic here
[11:00] <erUSUL> port*
[11:01] <bert_> erUSUL, but the cams work fine in windows (sorry I used the word) but not in ubuntu, so it really is a port problem here on ubuntu
[11:01] <Kalamansi> !server download
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about server download - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <erUSUL> bert_: did you instaled a firewall?
[11:02] <meezfoghi> razordead: i have  installing vsftpd again... when i start vsftpd...have a same problem ...500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[11:02] <bert_> nope, the only thing I have is iptables and the other stuff that come default on ubuntu for as far as I know
[11:03] <meezfoghi> razordead: what i need to do...i have no idea
[11:03] <yousif> guys this is my question: i m trying to configure my wireless network. at the moment i m using this configuration. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55195/ . i m using WPA2-PSK. thank you  in advance
[11:03] <bert_> erUSUL, could it be apparmor ?
[11:03] <razordead> meezfoghi: run that last command again & see if vsftpd is listening
[11:03] <erUSUL> bert_: then all your ports are open if there's something listenning on them
[11:03] <erUSUL> bert_: dunno i get rid of it
[11:04] <bruciemoose> yousif: what wifi chip?
[11:04] <bert_> I'll uninstall it then
[11:04] <dns53> telnet to ther port, see what is using it
[11:04] <meezfoghi> yes....vsftpd  20040 root    3u  IPv4 416548       TCP *:ftp (LISTEN)
[11:04] <meezfoghi> razordead: vsftpd  20040 root    3u  IPv4 416548       TCP *:ftp (LISTEN)
[11:04] <yousif> bruciemoose: i actually dont know
[11:04] <bruciemoose> yousif: do a lspci
[11:05] <sunseeker888> HI guys, if I a wireless wifi card on my new pc? will ubuntu sees it connect directly to my wireless router? Do i a need a specific card for ubuntu, or will a generic one do?
[11:05] <razordead> meezfoghi: try connecting with an ftp client & see if it works
[11:05] <bruciemoose> yousif: or is it usb?
[11:05] <yousif> no it is not
[11:05] <bruciemoose> Youri: what's the lspci output?
[11:05] <bruciemoose> oops
[11:05] <citm> how can i get the codecs ti play flv files?
[11:05] <bruciemoose> yousif: what's the lspci output?
[11:05] <ArthurArchnix> Never mind... found a post on the forum that solved it.
[11:05] <yousif> it is integrated in my laptop
[11:05] <erUSUL> sunseeker888: it depends on the wifi chip the card uses i can say by experience that a rt2500pci based card is automagical with ubuntu
[11:06] <ArthurArchnix> s€€ ya!
[11:06] <bruciemoose> yousif: type "lspci" in a terminal
[11:06] <magnetron> !codec | citm
[11:06] <ubotu> citm: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:06] <bert_> erUSUL, I just did a portscan of myself, but should the ports be always opened or just when I'm using webcam, as they aren't listed right now ?
[11:06] <meezfoghi> razordead: ok i try 1st...thanks
[11:06] <sunseeker888> thanks erusul,, going on ebay now.
[11:06] <yousif> it is giving me a lot of output
[11:06] <erUSUL> bert_: only when you use webcam (if it is true that the webcam app you are using need to listen in a specific port)
[11:07] <bruciemoose> yousif: yes it should
[11:07] <bruciemoose> yousif: does anything look like it might be network?
[11:07] <erUSUL> bert_: if there is no app listenning the port will appear as closed
[11:07] <yousif> it is
[11:07] <moad> thanks for the help , the quality is great
[11:08] <yousif> do you want me to put it online?
[11:08] <bert_> okey, kopete just crashed :s
[11:08] <bruciemoose> yousif: talking to me?
[11:09] <yousif> bruciemoose: i m sorry. yes i m talking to you.
[11:09] <Swerve> Hi, trying to setup webmin on 7.10 server edition. None of the add on modules are working and I was wondering whether the locations of the files, such as php.ini are different than webmin was expecting
[11:10] <yousif> bruciemoose: do you want to put the output on ubuntu pastebin?
[11:10] <meezfoghi> razordead: yeah.. it works..can connect ..but wonder why it can from terminal....thank a lot razordead
[11:10] <bruciemoose> yousif: email me the output -<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:10] <razordead> meezfoghi: no problem
[11:10] <yousif> bruciemoose: i will. thank you very much
[11:11] <citm> luke@luke-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install ubutu-restricted-extras / Reading package lists... Done / Building dependency tree / Reading state information... Done / E: Couldn't find package ubutu-restricted-extras - any ideas why?
[11:11] <bruciemoose> yousif: oh, pastebin would also be fine
[11:12] <goodhabit> Hello. What is default ubuntu application for rss reading?
[11:12] <erUSUL> citm: you speled it wrong  ubutu-restricted-extras is ubuntu-.... with n
[11:12] <erUSUL> goodhabit: there's no default for gtk you have lifarea
[11:12] <bert_> okey this is odd, when someone tries to view my webcam, kopete craches
[11:12] <erUSUL> !info lifearea | goodhabit
[11:13] <ubotu> goodhabit: Package lifearea does not exist in gutsy
[11:13] <erUSUL> !info livearea | goodhabit
[11:13] <ubotu> goodhabit: Package livearea does not exist in gutsy
[11:13] <crdlb> erUSUL: liferea
[11:13]  * erUSUL d**m
[11:13] <citm> the play bar for youtube is all messed up. The volume part is ontop of other things, and not over to the right where it sould be, and i cant move it up.
[11:14] <maximilion> Hello guys :)
[11:15] <alanbshepard70> Does anyone know of something that can help me save an asx video link from the net to my hard drive? I'm trying to rip/save the launch videos of the shuttle launch from yesterday off of the nasa website.
[11:15] <maximilion> After running "sudo alien -cv xyz.rpm" I get folders, not .deb files. Is that normal?
[11:16] <citm> thanks erUSUL: motto of the story, dont type drunk
[11:16] <Thurin1> citm: Here is a better moral, lesson and rule
[11:16] <maximilion> alanbshepard70: Try the Video download add-on for Firefox... don't remember the name, the most popular one
[11:16] <Thurin1> citm: Do not Root while under the influence.
[11:16] <Thurin1> :)
[11:17] <maximilion> Root only on root beer
[11:17] <citm> lol
[11:17] <maximilion> :)
[11:17] <magnetron> !lol
[11:17] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[11:17] <maximilion> So, anyone here used alien? Is it normal to get folders and not .deb files?
[11:17] <Thurin1> alanbshepard70: All you need do is download the 'asx' file and open it in a text editor, the link inside is the direct address for the video file. - Keep in mind that mime types must be disabled less you wish to use a download manager such as Kget or something similar.
[11:17] <alanbshepard70> maximilion: I've tried several and none work. I've tried download helper, ook video ok, magic ripper, and others. I've also tried vixy.net that is supposed to rip from a link and convert the video to a format of your choosing
[11:18] <yousif> bruciemoose: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55199/
[11:18] <Thurin1> maximilion: Yes, it could be normal depending on how the RPM was packaged to install, some of course are designed to install into folders..
[11:18] <Thurin1> maximilion: Btw.. Alien is not compatible with 'all' RPM packs, in fact I believe that one of it's enemies is 'dir' packed RPM's.
[11:18] <ktwilight[m]> sure are plenty of people in here
[11:18] <maximilion> So, if they are already folders, no need to "dpkg -i"?
[11:18] <bruciemoose> yousif: ok so the last line is your wireless card
[11:19] <Thurin1> maximilion: Find the binary -- ./binary and see
[11:19] <alanbshepard70> Thurin1: I tried that also but when I try the link it downloads a small 915byte file.
[11:19] <yousif> bruciemoose: cool
[11:19] <Thurin1> maximilion: If that does not work and everything is still source without an option to build/make - well either find a deb, or find another RPM. - Again alien is not compatible with all rpms, most, but not all.
[11:20] <maximilion> Thurin1: Will check, thanks :)
[11:20] <bruciemoose> yousif: so I'm googling for that model number
[11:20] <yousif> bruciemoose: cool thank you
[11:20] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is meant by 'reparent' in the sentence "If a kernel thread is launched as a result of a system call, or if it ever exits, it should generally reparent itself to kthreadd so it isn't in the way of other processes and is correctly cleaned up on exit."?
[11:20] <ali1234> alanbshepard70: tried mplayer? mplayer --dumpstream --playlist whatever.asx
[11:20] <Thurin1> alanbshepard70: That could also be another text file, check that for a link as well. - Some links to videos though are well protected and .. it's really not worth the effort...
[11:21] <Le-Chuck_IT1> Hi all. Is it normal that if I put tomboy in my session it opens the search window, and if I start it from my terminal after login it will not? I am using hardy but I suppose this is not a new thing
[11:21] <bruciemoose> yousif: so ubuntu hasn't recognised the card?
[11:21] <alanbshepard70> ali1234: No I haven't tried that but I will now.
[11:21] <yousif> bruciemoose: it is recognised
[11:21] <alanbshepard70> Thurin1: the second file was a wmv file but I'll see if it has a link burried in ti
[11:21] <yousif> bruciemoose: i do have an wireless connection at school
[11:21] <Thurin1> alanbshepard70: WMV' files can have links inside...
[11:22] <Thurin1> ASX>WMV>AVI/WMV
[11:22] <yousif> bruciemoose: but at home it is not working
[11:22] <bruciemoose> yousif: ah
[11:22] <yousif> bruciemoose: sorry i wasnt very clear
[11:22] <bruciemoose> yousif: that's useful to know :P
[11:22] <alanbshepard70> Thurin1: Ok thanks, I'll check it out and see what happens.
[11:22] <yousif> bruciemoose: i m really sorry about it
[11:22] <bruciemoose> yousif: so do you know your wireless hub settings?
[11:23] <daurnimator> hey all
[11:23] <yousif> bruciemoose: yes
[11:23] <daurnimator> anyone able to help with rdesktop?
[11:23] <daurnimator> I'm running windows xp under vmware server
[11:23] <daurnimator> I'm trying to get seamlessrdp working
[11:23] <bruciemoose> yousif: so what does it say when you try to connect?
[11:23] <daurnimator> but rdesktop doesn't seem to do anything
[11:23] <daurnimator> when I attempt to start it, it just sits there
[11:23] <daurnimator> no output in term, or window created
[11:23] <yousif> bruciemoose: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55195/ this is the configuration i m using at home
[11:23] <daurnimator> doesn't seem to timeout either
[11:24] <bruciemoose> daurnimator: have you tried moving the mouse :P
[11:24] <maximilion> Thurin1: No ./binary in the folders, in fact no ./anything, but they do contain /debian and /usr that seem to contain executables
[11:24] <daurnimator> ?
[11:24] <yousif> bruciemoose: it just doesnt connect
[11:24] <bruciemoose> daurnimator: sometimes that's a screen saver :P
[11:24] <daurnimator> huh?
[11:25] <Bizyal> #c++-se
[11:25] <Thurin1> maximilion: ./binary just means executable... a binary one ;) not literally ./binary :]
[11:25] <Bizyal> =/
[11:25] <bruciemoose> yousif: where's that file?
[11:25] <yousif> bruciemoose: after changing the conf file i use:  sudo dhclient eth1 .
[11:25] <maximilion> Thurin1: Yeah, don't think I need to build since the version is for my cpu and distro
[11:26] <daurnimator> hmmm, if I just put in a bad ip
[11:26] <daurnimator> it does the same
[11:26] <maximilion> Thurin1: But that doesn't mean I know how to "be a package manager" and know where to put the files :)
[11:26] <yousif> bruciemoose: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55195/ it is here
[11:26] <daurnimator> the networking doesn't seem to be working
[11:26] <daurnimator> how can I test if theres a firewall blocking it?
[11:26] <bruciemoose> yousif: I mean where on your system?
[11:27] <yousif> bruciemoose:  it is in ect/wpa_supplicant/
[11:27] <Thurin1> maximilion: Well if it runs you can keep them where they are in your home, or make a specific directory @ home for them..
[11:27] <BrianL> I am running a totally upgraded feisty ubuntu, I wanted to put beryl on their but their are alot of different tutorials for it, can anyone suggest a good one?
[11:27] <Thurin1> maximilion: If they did not install via pack .. it makes no sense to place them in /usr/bin - and anyways /usr/bin is fat enough :)
[11:27] <bruciemoose> yousif: have you configured this through the gui?
[11:27] <daurnimator> anyone?
[11:28] <bruciemoose> daurnimator: portscan with nmap?
[11:28] <sandr-> BrianL: why don't you use compiz?
[11:28] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> how to install ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run (I'm lamer, help me, please)?
[11:28] <Thurin1> daurnimator: Networking as in... internet, home network, wireless what?
[11:28] <Thurin1> daurnimator: You're leaving out critical information my man ;D
[11:28] <daurnimator> Thurin1: vmware. local.
[11:28] <maximilion> Thurin1: Well, I figured I could copy the /usr folder contents to my /usr folder, but what about the debian folder contents? Into /debian?
[11:28] <daurnimator> a nat
[11:28] <magnetron> BrianL: beryl isn't maintaned anymore. compiz fusion, the replacement is included in both feisty and gutsy. but it works a lot better in gutsy
[11:28] <yousif> bruciemoose: when i try to do it through the gui it doesnt work
[11:29] <yousif> bruciemoose: while it is just the ssid and the password type
[11:29] <bruciemoose> yousif: can you connect to your hub with anything else?
[11:29] <Thurin1> daurnimator: Make sure that you have smbclient installed, no errors about hal/dbus (if you are in Gnome) - and double check your Vmware network settings - they do have some warnings/tricks in that section.
[11:29] <daurnimator> why smbclient???
[11:29] <daurnimator> I think it could be something with iptables?
[11:29] <yousif> bruciemoose: like another laptop?
[11:29] <daurnimator> how do I check?
[11:29] <Thurin1> daurnimator: Oh, also make sure that your actual box and the emulated system do not share the same address - that will block one of them out on some routers.
[11:29] <bruciemoose> yousif: yeah
[11:30] <Thurin1> maximilion: ... No no no
[11:30] <BrianL> magnetron: but that will give me a cool effects?
[11:30] <daurnimator> Thurin1: vm is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:30] <magnetron> BrianL: yes.
[11:30] <daurnimator> ifconfig shows the host as <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:30] <yousif> bruciemoose: yes i can work with the wireless network on the windows
[11:30] <Thurin1> maximilion: Do not, ever move a /usr folder to /usr in / ... you could delete your original USR and break the system ;P
[11:30] <yousif> bruciemoose: i have dual boot
[11:30] <BrianL> magnetron: cool, so how do i get it going?
[11:30] <dns53> BrianL: compiz is the original project, there was a split called beryl and they merged as compiz-fusion
[11:31] <Thurin1> maximilion: If you really want to make something in usr - symlink the binary with "ln -s" (man ln)
[11:31] <bruciemoose> yousif: so you get no network, can't ping the hub etc?
[11:31] <yousif> bruciemoose: no i cant
[11:31] <magnetron> BrianL: in feisty, there are not all the effects available. it's called "desktop effects"
[11:31] <Thurin1> dugbert: The host is the router.. .1 is usually the router
[11:31] <maximilion> Thurin1: Roger! debian folder contains some scripts like postrm, a .debhelper file... Does this mean I could automate install even without .deb file?
[11:31] <magnetron> BrianL: in the system menu
[11:31] <adnan> hello
[11:31] <Thurin1> daurnimator: What is the OS you are using vmware on? XP?
[11:31] <yousif> bruciemoose: when using the gui it is canging after i open it again to wpa personal instead of wpa2
[11:31] <magnetron> !hi | adnan
[11:31] <ubotu> adnan: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:32] <adnan> ya its first time that i am gating log on
[11:32] <daurnimator> Thurin1: ubuntu
[11:32] <Thurin1> maximilion: In theory yes, but you could also find that the program works right now and all you must do (if you use X) is add the link to the file.. and presto ;) - some things in Linux do not need to be 'installed'
[11:33] <Thurin1> daurnimator: Ok, So your running ubuntu.. to run Ubuntu in vmware?
[11:33] <daurnimator> winxp
[11:33] <Thurin1> so you have two versions of ubuntu running on the same machine?
[11:33] <Thurin1> Ah ok ok
[11:33] <t105> hello ... has anybody a clue with that one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/37527
[11:33] <t105> i'm having that during net install from the mini-iso
[11:33] <misc--> hello... I'm trying to get the java plugin or firefox to work but java.com keeps saying I have 1.4.2 installed. How can I make it use 1.6? I've removed every single trace of 1.4.2, installed the 1.6 java, used update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun, restarted firefox, still thinks I'm using 1.4. Firefox about:config shows the java lib I'm using which links to 1.6. Any ideas?
[11:33] <Thurin1> open up a terminal in ubuntu and 'ifconfig' whats the addy? - and in XP run a command prompt and 'ipconfig' and what is the addy?
[11:33] <BrianL> magnetron: "I get a pop up that the composite extension is not available"
[11:33] <bruciemoose> yousif: Think my suggestion would be to reduce the security on your hub
[11:34] <bruciemoose> yousif: I've had similar problems
[11:34] <yousif> bruciemoose: yeah it is a good idea
[11:34] <maximilion> OK Thurin1, will make the symlinks... and try :)
[11:34] <yousif> bruciemoose: i ll try this now
[11:34] <bruciemoose> yousif: I fixed mine by forcing a different kernel module
[11:34] <magnetron> BrianL: that means that your graphics driver does not support 3d desktop. what card are you using?
[11:35] <t105> i had to use net install because normal install messes up with sata-cdrom
[11:35] <Thurin1> maximilion: ;) if you see what seems to be the executable binary .. ./filename - if it runs it's already 'installed' - however if the binary has not been given permissions yet ---- chmod +x filename
[11:35] <yousif> bruciemoose: ok i ll remember that
[11:35] <BrianL> magnetron: ati x300
[11:35] <yousif> bruciemoose: :)
[11:35] <magnetron> BrianL: ATI? too bad.
[11:35] <citm> !defoma
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defoma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <bruciemoose> yousif: so I had rt2500usb or something installed by ubuntu, had to change it to something else that looked very similar
[11:35] <Thurin1> BrianL: You must edit your XORG - and enable the Option 'Composite' enable
[11:35] <Rodolfo> hi folks..I'm going to buy a new computer and I want to know a good video card from nvidia or ati/amd. Suggestions?
[11:35] <maximilion> Yes, I've found it, but I think it uses fonts and expects startup files in the correct place
[11:35] <Thurin1> BrianL: Go to X.org and read about composite - and double check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[11:36] <maximilion> So I will step gently :)
[11:36] <yousif> bruciemoose: the thing is that i have already wireless connection at school
[11:36] <BrianL> Thurin1: will do, thanks
[11:36] <Thurin1> The Radeon 7000 supports beryl - so I mean come on.. the X300 for sure does
[11:36] <Thurin1> ;)
[11:36] <bruciemoose> yousif: yeah that's weird
[11:36] <magnetron> Rodolfo: don't buy one from ATI. try avoiding the 8 series nvidia too.
[11:36] <bruciemoose> yousif: so it works, I guess it's best to change your hub
[11:36] <yousif> bruciemoose: so i thought it is just how to configure the wpa_supplicant
[11:36] <Thurin1> BrianL: Just good xorg.conf - 'composite' you should see a lot of examples.
[11:36] <yousif> bruciemoose: i will
[11:37] <Thurin1> google*
[11:37] <Rodolfo> magnetron: hm..what do you think about nvidia geforce 7300LE?
[11:37] <bruciemoose> yousif: I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant
[11:37] <yousif> bruciemoose:  thanks man
[11:37] <bruciemoose> yousif: np
[11:37] <magnetron> Rodolfo: a nice card.
[11:37] <citm> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:37] <citm> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[11:37] <Thurin1> BrianL: - Section "Extensions"
[11:37] <Thurin1> Option "Composite" "Enable"
[11:37] <Thurin1> EndSection
[11:37] <Thurin1> :)
[11:37] <maximilion> Thurin1: Oh, found a makefile. :P Just run it?
[11:37] <Slap_Stick> hey, i'm a bit confused with the sudoers file, if i wanted a group to be able to have all normal commands as their own user but to be able to su to another user with no password, how would i do it at the moment i've done %d ALL = /bin/su - user NOPASSWD: ALL is that correct?
[11:37] <citm> i get errors whenever itry to add ropgrams or things.. i think it is due to the problem with contacting a server during my install
[11:38] <KristianDK> Hi there :-) I'm having a light intensity problem on my laptop - i can't change it, so i'ts 100% all the time, which is destroying my battery time :O Do you know a possible solution to this?
[11:38] <Thurin1> maximilion: as user --- ./configure - make - as sudo make install
[11:38] <Thurin1> :)
[11:38] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> How to run 'ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run'?
[11:38] <citm> is there anyway to fix that? reinstall ubuntu?
[11:38] <Rodolfo> magnetron: as far as I know, it has 256MB dedicated memory...and can steal more from the system...
[11:38] <Slap_Stick> /usr/bin/su even *
[11:38] <Rodolfo> magnetron: is that right? you know anything about it?
[11:38] <magnetron> Rodolfo: i don't know about that.
[11:38] <Thurin1> so first "./configure" (verbatim) that will take some time - next you type "make" and wait... when it's done "sudo make install"
[11:38] <Rodolfo> magnetron: which one do you use?
[11:38] <Thurin1> maximilion: It can be done in one large command as well - but it's easier to get started like that
[11:38] <magnetron> Rodolfo: geforce 3
[11:39] <Rodolfo> magnetron: ouch...!
[11:39] <Thurin1> maximilion: But before you build anything get the tools first ..
[11:39] <maximilion> okay, will try :)
[11:39] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> How to run 'ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run'?
[11:39] <maximilion> I have the tools Thurin1
[11:39] <magnetron> Rodolfo: it's enough for compiz
[11:39] <Thurin1> sudo apt-get install build-essential (might have an s)
[11:39] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Help me please?
[11:39] <Thurin1> build-essentials or build-essential, one or the other
[11:39] <Rodolfo> magnetron: the last one I had was a GF 4 MX4000 128MB@64b
[11:39] <dns53> ./appname in a terminal?
[11:39] <Thurin1> That will give you the minimum tools you need to compile your own software :)
[11:40] <Rodolfo> magnetron: it SUCKED! but was enough for that time...
[11:40] <Thurin1> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: Chomod +x file
[11:40] <Thurin1> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: Then ./ati <tab> enter...
[11:41] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Thanks!
[11:41] <Thurin1> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: Well... I guess you know the tab part .. just saying ;D
[11:41] <gumis> hi all
[11:41] <Thurin1> but if a binary is not executable... chmod +x :)
[11:41] <Thurin1> chmod +x filename.
[11:41] <Rodolfo> magnetron: is it true that nvidia cards run games better on windows then on linux?
[11:41] <Thurin1> Of course you can only chmod's to files you own - so you can't change mod a root file from a user account.. keep that in mind
[11:41] <gumis> how to easy downgrade kernel in 7.10 to kernel in 6.10?
[11:42] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: No
[11:42] <Rodolfo> than*
[11:42] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: Nvidia from my experience works better on Linux than ATI.
[11:42] <maximilion> Thurin1: Eh, throws up on ./configure
[11:42] <Assid> Thurin1: no ? 3d acceleration isnt as advanced as its windows counter part
[11:42] <Thurin1> ATI's are one of the worst on Linux, not that they are bad cards.. but ati does not care much about Linux.
[11:42] <Jadd76> Hello, can anyone send me the URL of a blog post seen on the Ubuntu planet with the Virtualbox/Windows screenshot?
[11:42] <Assid> Thurin1: i think his question was nvidia on win/lin
[11:42] <Rodolfo> Thurin1: what card family are you talking about?
[11:43] <gary4gar> Please help me restoring grub after windows install, i did this ==> http://www.pastebin.ca/896134  but still no sign of grub
[11:43] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: You're comparing games on windows and linux?
[11:43] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: Bah, might as well compare apples and oranges really
[11:43] <Thurin1> Most games on Linux use GL, most windows games use DX which cannot be tested on Linux for the most part.. soooo
[11:43] <Assid> err.. can someone help me get my webcam working?
[11:43] <Rodolfo> Thurin1: hehe...yea I need a suggestion to buy a new video card with my next computer
[11:43] <Thurin1> But as for GL games - try ET on windows and on Linux
[11:44] <Thurin1> it's way faster on Linux :)
[11:44] <Assid> ET ??
[11:44] <Thurin1> maximilion: It's not fun eh?
[11:44] <Assid> you mean UT right ?
[11:44] <Rodolfo> Thurin1: I've had bad experience enough and I'm running away from intel GMA-based-cards from now on...
[11:44] <yousif_> bruciemoose: thank you it is working now
[11:44] <Thurin1> maximilion: But compiling your own programs usually resuly in a snappier app.
[11:44] <Thurin1> Assid: Enemy territory.
[11:44] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: Hahah
[11:44] <alanbshepard70> My iPod stopped mounting whenever I plug it in. I didn't change any settings and I've rebooted as a first step. Any ideas on how to fix this or troubleshoot?
[11:44] <yousif_> bruciemoose: thank you very much.
[11:45] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: Well... as for Linux... yeah, Nvidia is the way to go.. trust me.. ATI is hella bad.
[11:45] <gary4gar> Please help me restoring grub after windows install, i did this ==> http://www.pastebin.ca/896134  but still no sign of grub there
[11:45] <Assid> err.. my nvidia 8600gts works fine on ubuntu+1 btw
[11:45] <Thurin1> Assid: Yeah, like I said Nvidia is good on Linux.
[11:45] <Rodolfo> Thurin1: I see...I was talking about GF 7300LE. what do you think about it? is it capable of running current games?
[11:45] <Thurin1> Nvidia has been 'good' to linux for long time ..
[11:46] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: On Linux? hah sure
[11:46] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: Linux doesn't have much games you know :P
[11:46] <Thurin1> If you want to play games a lot.. why choose Linux?
[11:46] <Thurin1> Gamers are better off on windows.. seriously
[11:46] <alanhaggai> Yes.
[11:46] <Rodolfo> Thurin1: because I don't want vista on my next pc...trust me Linux is the smarter choice.
[11:46] <DDragon> some are Thurin1
[11:46] <maximilion> I agree, although id games rock on Linux :)
[11:47] <alanhaggai> You can use Cedega to play DirectX games in GNU/Linux.
[11:47] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: Not for Gamers it isn't
[11:47] <IanLiu> !cinelerra
[11:47] <ubotu> Cinelerra is a video editor and compositor that cannot be included in Ubuntu for legal reasons. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[11:47] <Thurin1> Well.. compared to Vista, maybe haha
[11:47] <frup> I only like older games
[11:47] <Thurin1> Vista.. umm yah
[11:47] <maximilion> alanhaggai: I have this old Win98 game using DX6... is that possible in cedega?
[11:47] <Rodolfo> Thurin1: and I want to run games on Linux...If I can't, nothing to do about it. windows is not an option.
[11:47] <frup> most work in wine
[11:47] <Thurin1> frup: yup
[11:47] <citm> !codec
[11:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:47] <Thurin1> I mean 'gamer' like hardcore
[11:47] <alanhaggai> maximilion, might be. Give it a try.
[11:48] <frup> Newer games in my opinion tend to be more about graphics than gameplay
[11:48] <ikonia> Thurin1: linux is not a mainstream gaming platform
[11:48] <maximilion> I have alanhaggai :)
[11:48] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: Ok well good luck with that
[11:48] <Assid> Thurin1: i decided to keep windows dualboot for that
[11:48] <frup> it's been that way for quite a while
[11:48] <alanhaggai> maximilion, did it work? :-)
[11:48] <Thurin1> ikonia: Thank you for the obvious :P
[11:48] <maximilion> 156 fps in 1600x1200 :)
[11:48] <alanhaggai> Cool :-)
[11:48] <Thurin1> ikonia: It's a shame though because.. the few games Linux does have perform so much better than they do on Windows. :)
[11:48] <Rodolfo> Thurin1: thanks :)
[11:48] <maximilion> Thurin1: So I go to the folder with the makefile, type configure, then make, then sudo makefile?
[11:48] <Thurin1> I have no games.. i'm on FreeBSD which is horrible for games
[11:48] <Thurin1> hahaha
[11:49] <ikonia> maximilion: no. What are you trying to build
[11:49] <Assid> maximilion: you usea CRT/LCD?
[11:49] <alanhaggai> maximilion, It is sudo make install
[11:49] <alanhaggai> and not sudo Makefile
[11:49] <DDragon> its not a mainstream gaming platform but it is used as gaming servers
[11:49] <Thurin1> maximilion: in this sequence --- ./configure <wait> make <wait> sudo make install (done, yay, beer time!)
[11:49] <Rodolfo> Thurin1: why not use an "emulator"? cedega does it well...
[11:49] <Thurin1> Rodolfo: FreeBSD is not Linux so.. yah
[11:49] <maximilion> Assid: LCD - 156 fps is the benchmark. I can run 156 fps ingame, but screen will ofc only show 60 Hz
[11:50] <Assid> Rodolfo: cedega uses something similar to wine
[11:50] <Thurin1> Cedega does not really work that well on BSD
[11:50] <Assid> maximilion: sweet.. which game?
[11:50] <alanhaggai> Why?
[11:50] <Thurin1> But it does not matter - I don't play games anyways :)
[11:50] <maximilion> Assid: I have a Dell 27"
[11:50] <alexkreuz> can anyone tell me where i can get the kernel-source from?
[11:50] <Thurin1> The closest I come to gaming is Zsnes from time to time
[11:50] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: kernel.org
[11:50] <Assid> how do i confirm im on 1680x1050@60hz ?
[11:50] <ikonia> alexkreuz: which kernel source, the ubuntu package or vanilla ?
[11:50] <alanhaggai> aleX-xx, kernel.org
[11:50] <ikonia> Thurin1: careful
[11:50] <alexkreuz> ubuntu i guess
[11:50] <Rodolfo> Assid: I believed in that as well...but I didn't find out WHY warcraft III TFT runs great on cedega and terribly on wine...
[11:50] <alexkreuz> not really sure
[11:50] <ikonia> alexkreuz: ok - what do you want to do with it ?
[11:50] <alexkreuz> nvidia needs it to compile
[11:50] <alanhaggai> alexkreuz, http://kernel.org
[11:51] <maximilion> Well, the 156 fps is from Quake 3 running on nvidia 6800 generic drivers - also Doom etc
[11:51] <alexkreuz> nvidia-installer --update
[11:51] <alexkreuz> needs it
[11:51] <Thurin1> ikonia: Yeah, I know... Zsnes might kill my resources!
[11:51] <Thurin1> :)
[11:51] <Assid> Rodolfo: cedega is a paid platform
[11:51] <simion314> hi, can i load in parallels my real windows xp partition? it will be a waste of space and time to install other xp
[11:51] <osfameron> Rodolfo: isn't cedega optimized for playing games?
[11:51] <maximilion> And I guess the Jedi Knight, RTCW etc will also run fine
[11:51] <ikonia> alexkreuz: ok - why are you doing nvidia-installer --update ?
[11:51] <Thurin1> osfameron: Yes
[11:51] <Thurin1> It sort of emulates DX from what I can gather
[11:51] <alexkreuz> to update my nvidia drivers
[11:51] <Thurin1> Works very well under Ubuntu
[11:51] <ikonia> alexkreuz: why ?
[11:51] <ikonia> alexkreuz: why do you want to update them
[11:51] <maximilion> Assid: I have a 6800 non-ultra (cheap) gfx card
[11:51] <alexkreuz> so i can get updated drivers?
[11:51] <dns53> alexkreuz: there is an update from memory
[11:51] <echo__> can somebody tell me how to get Eclipse running? it doesnt define all the Java classes i need.
[11:51] <alexkreuz> whats that got to do with it?
[11:52] <ikonia> alexkreuz: but why do you want updated drivers ?
[11:52] <Thurin1> I played Warcraft III on Cedega/Ubuntu - It was amazing how well it played on an old PIII (My ubuntu machine) with a Radeon 7000.
[11:52] <ikonia> alexkreuz: what reason do you want updated drivers
[11:52] <Assid> maximilion: sweet.. you tried this on windows?
[11:52] <Rodolfo> Cedega or WineX...whatever. The difference between them is not about paid platform or not at all.
[11:52] <alexkreuz> whats it to you?
[11:52] <Thurin1> Ubuntu really is probably the best choice for a gamer in Linux...
[11:52] <alexkreuz> my issue is i need the kernel-source
[11:52] <ikonia> alexkreuz: to try to provide you the best advice possible
[11:52] <Assid> Rodolfo: cedega optimizes use of directx
[11:52] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: That is where the kernel source is - kernel.org
[11:52] <alanhaggai> echo__, try #eclipse. They might be able to help you.
[11:52] <echo__> thx
[11:52] <ikonia> alexkreuz: why is the reason you wnat to update the nvidia drivers
[11:52] <Rodolfo> Assid: and wine uses OGL instead.
[11:52] <alexkreuz> Thurin1, can i get the kernel-source from apt-get?
[11:53] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: You go to the downloads and there they are
[11:53] <alanhaggai> echo__, No problem. :-)
[11:53] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Probably but it's out of date
[11:53] <alanhaggai> alexkreuz, yes.
[11:53] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: What do you want to do with the kernel source? recompile a kernel?
[11:53] <maximilion> Assid: Well on my C2D/ATi X1950 Pro machine Quake 3 runs faster ofc. On the same machine in XP 64-bit: totally unplayable. Maybe 30 fps.
[11:53] <Rodolfo> Assid: that's because WC3 is unplayable. (maybe)
[11:53] <ikonia> alexkreuz: it's important to understand why you want th eupdate deu to driver/kernel compatability
[11:53] <alexkreuz> im trying to update my nvidia driver and to update it, it needs the kernel-source
[11:53] <maximilion> Same machine as this Ubuntu*
[11:53] <Thurin1> If that's the case.. i'd get the latest from kernel.org
[11:53] <ikonia> alexkreuz: but WHY do you want to update your kernel driver
[11:53] <alexkreuz> so id prefer the same src im running already
[11:53] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Synaptic - > kernel
[11:54] <ikonia> Thurin1: thats not going to help him getting the source tar from kernel.org
[11:54] <ikonia> alexkreuz: what is the reason you require the updated drivers ?
[11:54] <alexkreuz> Thurin, kernel-package?
[11:54] <maximilion> Thurin1, anyone: I have a makefile called rules. I'm in its folder in the terminal. How do I make install?
[11:54] <alexkreuz> i dont have a straight up kernel in synaptic
[11:55] <Thurin1> maximilion: Did you configure?
[11:55] <ikonia> alexkreuz: i's clear you have no idea what you are doing and you refuse to answer questions.  Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[11:55] <Assid> anyne know how i can check if my screen is on 50/60hz ?
[11:55] <maximilion> ./configure <filename>?
[11:56] <alexkreuz> ikonia, would you mind letting me have that learning experience?
[11:56] <Assid> i dont see anything in xorg's log
[11:56] <maximilion> Assid: Press the menu button on your monitor?
[11:56] <pvh_sa|wrk> as i get it, the client is passed a boot file using DHCP  - pxelinux.0 - and then it mounts the filesystem via NFS ? how is the info on where to nfs mount root set?
[11:56] <ikonia> alexkreuz: sure - go for it.
[11:56] <kloeri> hesamh: don't troll please
[11:56] <Thurin1> maximilion: ok, well try.. just typing 'make' if that does not work - try looking through all dirs for a configure file (it will be ... "configure")
[11:56] <ikonia> alexkreuz: go break your machien, then re-install when you are done
[11:56] <ali1234> maximilion: just ./configure. and if it fails, you probably need to install some development libs
[11:56] <Assid> maximilion: dont see an option to see it :(
[11:56] <au_> hey. do u know some good graphic viewer for console?
[11:56] <alexkreuz> geez ikonia, its a separate partition that im PLAYING with
[11:56] <Assid> got it
[11:56] <alexkreuz> get over it
[11:56] <Assid> wait
[11:56] <neville> You're not very nice ikonia
[11:56] <ikonia> alexkreuz: thats fine, go do it then
[11:56] <maximilion> Assid: Look for a menu called Hz, Settings, Display Informatin...
[11:57] <Thurin1> ikonia: Breaking stuff is part of the fun
[11:57] <ikonia> Thurin1: I have no issue with that, just people doding questions when they clearly have no idea what they are doing
[11:57] <Thurin1> ikonia: Well no one is born a Linux pro.. so
[11:57] <alanhaggai> Very true.
[11:57] <Assid> okay if it says  v. frequence 59.9 hz
[11:57] <Assid> so i guess thats 60hz right ?
[11:57] <alanhaggai> We are all learning.
[11:57] <ikonia> Thurin1: no-one said they are - but then get advice/help - don't just ignore it blindly
[11:58] <karmelek> It is correct sentence?: 'Can I ask you who gave you those lovely flowers?'
[11:58] <alexkreuz> ikonia
[11:58] <alexkreuz> i asked
[11:58] <alexkreuz> where can i get the kernel-source
[11:58] <alexkreuz> thats it
[11:58] <Assid> picel clock 146mhz .. is that good?
[11:58] <ikonia> karmelek: this is an ubuntu support channel
[11:58] <alexkreuz> whats it to you why i need it?
[11:58] <Thurin1> karmelek: Sort of the wrong channel no?
[11:59] <alexkreuz> maybe i wanna make a dirty bomb with it
[11:59] <ikonia> alexkreuz: because peopel who do'nt know what they are doing - don't often know what they really want
[11:59] <alexkreuz> maybe i wanna power my coffee machine with it
[11:59] <karmelek> ikonia: woops - i choose wrong tab
[11:59] <karmelek> sorry
[11:59] <ali1234> alexkreuz: question is flawed because you don;t need the whole kernel source for what you are doing, just the ehaders (which are in apt)
[11:59] <ikonia> alexkreuz: the package is called kernel-source - there is your answer go break your machine
[11:59] <maximilion> Assid: Yes, that's 60 Hz. And pixel clock depends on resolution - it's what the gfx card can output. Is there a problem?
[11:59] <ikonia> ali1234 exactly - thank you, hence why trying to get more info from someone trying to be clever with smart boy responses
[11:59] <neville> alexkreuz what exactly is this in relation to?
[11:59] <gumis> in which repository i can find 2.6.17 kernel, and how to install it?
[11:59] <alexkreuz> geez
[12:00] <Thurin1> gumis: ... kernel.org
[12:00] <Assid> maximilion: nah no problem.. just wanna get the most of the machine.. ive spent enuff cash.. time to get some returns
[12:00] <ikonia> Thurin1: thats not a repo
[12:00] <erUSUL> gumis: 17 kernel is the kernel used in edgy iirc
[12:00] <ikonia> Thurin1: stop giving out advice like that
[12:00] <Thurin1> ikonia: He did not say ubuntu-kernel, did he?
[12:00] <Thurin1> He said kernel 2.6.17
[12:00] <alexkreuz> my problem
[12:00] <alexkreuz> is that i dont HAVE a kernel-source in apt-get
[12:00] <ikonia> Thurin1 be realistic - he's running ubuntu
[12:01] <alexkreuz> the one i have isnt getting
[12:01] <erUSUL> gumis: why do you need such an old kernel?
[12:01] <alexkreuz> the closest i have is kernel-package
[12:01] <Thurin1> ikonia: Which means nothing .. Ubuntu is only a linux
[12:01] <maximilion> Assid: Normally, even for good LCDs, in the highest resolutions you get lower Hz. But even the best LCDs can hardly go over 75 Hz.
[12:01] <ikonia> Thurin1 jus consider what your advising people to do, most people are new and don't actually know what they want
[12:01] <Thurin1> You can switch kernels all day long regardless of distro
[12:01] <erUSUL> ubotu tell alexkreuz about kernel | alexkreuz see priv msg from ubotu
[12:01] <Assid> maximilion: yep
[12:01] <neville> alexkreuz, have you got source sources enabled in your package manager?
[12:01] <Thurin1> ikonia: He just told me what he wants
[12:02] <Thurin1> kernel 2.6.17
[12:02] <Thurin1> and how to install - http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[12:02] <ikonia> Thurin1: keep in mind the majority of the users are new users
[12:02] <Thurin1> ikonia: Indeed and breaking things will let them learn
[12:02] <maximilion> Assid: My best solution is to only have max resolution and set the screen to not scale up lower resolutions.
[12:02] <ikonia> Thurin1: no - thats not what we are here to do
[12:02] <Assid> my stupid webcam dont work :(
[12:02] <alexkreuz> neville, yes
[12:02] <p00tz> How can I change the place in desktop where windows are opened? Right now, every new window I open starts in the top left corner, with the window title bar hidden under the taskbar :\
[12:03] <alanhaggai> alexkreuz, got the source yet?
[12:03] <gumis> i have identical problem as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=643058
[12:03] <Assid> maximilion: problem if you use something like media files or such where the source isnt a sclable vector
[12:03] <alanhaggai> alexkreuz, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/devel/linux-source
[12:04] <ali1234> p00tz: sounds like you might have a problem with your window manager? can you drag withows with ALT+drag?
[12:04] <maximilion> Assid: I have no problems at all, when I'm watcing media I'm in the desktop anyway, and when a game starts a lower resolution I get a perfect (not stretched) picture with black borders :) I like it.
[12:04] <michael__> frankgrimes98
[12:04] <p00tz> yes ali1234, i can
[12:05] <p00tz> this started happening after i installed compiz
[12:05] <erUSUL> gumis: are you on the affected machine? can you test something?
[12:05]  * maximilion is away (coffee)
[12:05] <Thurin1> maximilion: widescreen gaming? :o
[12:05] <Pirate_Hunter> hello I want to know what killer apps are available for ubuntu?
[12:05] <Assid> maximilion: true.. but then shifting back and forth on resolutions.. damn
[12:05] <Mez> Thurin1, if you're going to give advice that is dangerous, at least warn whoever how dangerous it can be and give them a safe option too ;)
[12:05] <Assid> i prefer higher res gaming
[12:05] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: depends what you want to do
[12:05] <gumis> gumis: yes, i installed squid on my debian server
[12:05] <ali1234> p00tz: perhaps ask in #compiz-fusion
[12:05] <gumis> and connecting via proxy, but i must have direct access to internet
[12:06] <Thurin1> Mez: Well telling someone where a kernel is isn't exactly 'dangerous' :P it's risky
[12:06] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: just wish for a list of apps that fit as killer app, hope that makes sense
[12:06] <citm> !sources.lst
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <p00tz> ali1234: ok I will :) thx for the tip
[12:06] <citm> where is sources.lst file located and how do i edit it?
[12:06] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: not really, it depends what you want to do, maplyer is a great video app for example.
[12:06] <iari> Hi! Can someone PLEASE help me? I own a laptop & the only thing keeping me from wiping my windows partition and moving to ubuntu is the fact I can't go into Hibernation. I couldn't find anything that works in the forums nor google.. Any one's got an idea how to fix hibernation for Thinkpad T43p ?
[12:06] <Mez> Thurin1, it's dangerous as iuf they dont know what they are doing, it can render their computer unusable without a re-install to them.
[12:06] <idran2> I have a problem with my pakages: acpid, acpi-support and powermanagement-interface.The dpkg --configure -a produce this report: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55191/ this is in italian lenguage but i can traslate it!
[12:07] <Thurin1> Mez: True, so a disclaimer should be added to the end of the sentence, yes.
[12:07] <ali1234> Pirate_Hunter: most of the best apps are available for other platforms, so don't qualify as "killer apps"
[12:07] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: ok I thought that it was a particular type of aps but now it seems it would depend on preferences... hmmm ok
[12:07] <Mez> Thurin1, please do in future ;)
[12:07] <Mez> idran2, try a sudo apt-get install -f
[12:07] <Pirate_Hunter> ali1234: yeah I just thought killer apps were particular not something that everyone would agree on
[12:08] <ali1234> Pirate_Hunter: actually my favourite killer app has to be apt :)
[12:08] <Thurin1> Mplayer, 'Terminal', Audacious, Rezound, Abiword, those are a few killer apps - but it really does depend on your taste too... some people prefer light weight apps some.. enjoy heavier more feature rich applications.
[12:08] <iari> Anyone ?
[12:08] <alexkreuz> ok got it
[12:08] <alexkreuz> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:08] <alexkreuz> thx Thurin1
[12:08] <Pirate_Hunter> ali1234: o.k.
[12:08] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Apt.. is the envy of the 'unix-like' world.
[12:08] <alexkreuz> yea
[12:08] <alexkreuz> but i didnt get it off apt
[12:08] <gumis> ,i'm to linux, so i'm looking for something like "sudo apt-get install kernel-2.6.17-xxx", reboot and choose new kernel :)
[12:08] <alexkreuz> it wasnt in there
[12:08] <alexkreuz> i got it off kernel.org
[12:09] <iari> Is there someone that might be able to help me ??
[12:09] <Pirate_Hunter> ali1234: can synaptic be considered a killer up as it is one of the best/most commonly used in ubuntu
[12:09] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Now for the disclaimer -: Anything you do with kernels may damage your system, you are not in anyway advised to use them - in using them you assume the risks of damaging your install.
[12:09] <alexkreuz> :)
[12:09] <alexkreuz> i know
[12:09] <alexkreuz> Thurin1, is there a standard path that the kernel source is usually placed in?
[12:09] <frup> iari have you posted on Ubuntuforums?
[12:10] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Yes if you want to educate yourself a bit more on how the kernel works.. or how to build one and the directories and what they mean give this a look - http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[12:11] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: I advise you NOT to follow the howto unless you feel that you are 'ready' and understand what you are doing - you can indeed render your system unbootable.
[12:11] <Silthias> afternoon
[12:11] <Thurin1> Also note that 'kernel headers' and 'kernel sources' are not the same thing - and be sure of what an application is requesting.
[12:11] <Thurin1> enough disclaimers? :D
[12:11] <alexkreuz> cool thx
[12:11] <Thurin1> OH alexkreuz last thing..
[12:11] <alexkreuz> its ok if it gets unbootable, i have my ubuntu cd handy
[12:12] <pluffsy> I did this: sudo apt-get install openntpd and thought that would be enough to make my computer get the time from a clockserver automatically. the process is running but the time is never right. any idea why it isn't working?
[12:12] <Thurin1> If you do decide to compile a kernel - make sure you have spare time.. it takes a lot of resources and time
[12:12] <iari> frup: yes a long time ago.. they advised TuxOnIce but when I try to run 'make' I get an error : 'make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Stop.
[12:12] <iari> make: *** [prepare0] Error 2'
[12:12] <Thurin1> But you do learn a lot and get to tweak and really get rid of the fat that your system does not use and make a leaner system
[12:12] <erUSUL> gumis: try this sudo sh -c "echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling"
[12:13] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Yeah.. well always backup your unreplaceable data :) as for Ubuntu.. if you have the cd.. really who cares
[12:13] <maximilion> As per instructions I made a subfolder to /usr and chmodded it 777. Still can't use file browser to copy stuff into it. How?
[12:14] <frup> iari You are using 32bit?
[12:14] <erUSUL> maximilion: why would you want to copy files there? user thata belongs to /home/
[12:14] <maximilion> Could I "sudo nautilus" or something?
[12:14] <Thurin1> maximilion: Err why did you chmod to 777?>
[12:14] <erUSUL> maximilion: s/thata/data/
[12:15] <maximilion> erUSUL: I know it's 'dirty', but it's in a sub-folder, and the software expects it there... badly coded maybe
[12:15] <Thurin1> maximilion: sudo when you wish to use root commands, then chmod the stuff you need.. don't get into a habit of chmod'ing to 777 that's really insecure
[12:15] <IanLiu> Hi. I am trying to install Cedega from CVS, but I am having some troubles with the installation script. After the 2nd step (checkout) comes the Configure step, which throws and error: "/home/ian/.WineCVS/Functions/DefaultProfile: line 628: ./configure: No such file or directory"
[12:15] <erUSUL> maximilion: what software?
[12:15] <maximilion> Thurin1: I thought doing that would give anyone rights to copy into it
[12:15] <gumis> erUSUL: it works!!! what this magic command did?
[12:15] <Thurin1> maximilion: And write it - and read it - even outsiders
[12:15] <KenSentMe> Apt is broken because an install of a deb crashed. The package can't be removed or reinstalled. When apt or synaptic is started it says it can't because the archive is missing. How can i let apt ignore that package and run synaptic to remove that package?
[12:15] <Thurin1> maximilion: Just don't do that too often - especially in critical folders like /usr - you could get a good hacking
[12:16] <Silthias> anyone able to explain how to append a new line to a document using a shell script? Iv tried to use sed but it isn't working, and can't find anything ont he net that explains it properly
[12:16] <erUSUL> gumis: they are some screwed up routers on internet that doesn't support window scaling so the command disables it for ubuntu so you can use the net
[12:16] <maximilion> Thurin1: I know, should I use 644? or 755 for folders?
[12:16] <[0x90]> 755
[12:16] <maximilion> Still won't let me copy stuff to it from file browser
[12:16] <frup> Silthias using "line" > document should work, it might be >> one is append one is overwrite
[12:17] <Thurin1> maximilion: In your home folder... you can do as you will but.. try to keep away from 777 anywhere else.. but even at home 777 is really insecure
[12:17] <Knightwise> hey everyone
[12:17] <Silthias> (frup): cheers ill give it a try now
[12:17] <maximilion> Thurin1:  I know all this, I'm a webdev... when it's working I'll make it secure ofc.
[12:17] <Thurin1> maximilion: You may have to logout/in to reflect the folder changes to nautilus
[12:17] <Knightwise> could anybody point me to a good appliance - distro for network monitoring  ? (spam control / antivirus)
[12:18] <maximilion> Still don't see why that doesn't allow file browser to put files in it!
[12:18] <Thurin1> maximilion: just saying in general :)
[12:18] <Thurin1> maximilion: try as I said.. out and in again
[12:18] <Thurin1> sometimes nautilus does not see folder changes for some reason until you logout/in
[12:18] <mEck0> Hi! my sound is "rustles", i.e. no clear sound no matter which mediaplayer I'm using. what could be wrong? alsa?
[12:19] <donkie> I want to read/write my /var/www catalog via network realtime (samba preferbly). but www-data own the /var/www catalog, must i chown the catalog to me? what is the best way
[12:19] <Knightwise> anyone know of a good network security distro ?
[12:19] <maximilion> Thurin1: Probably - rightclicking the folder, properties closed all nautilus windows ;)
[12:19] <Knightwise> i would like to use a linux book as a firewall and stuff
[12:19] <maximilion> brb
[12:19] <Knightwise> linux box ,  not linux book
[12:19] <frup> donkie add your user to the group
[12:20] <Thurin1> mEck0: You're sure your mixer is unmuted and all? - because on new installs it's muted default
[12:20] <gumis> so i don't need to downgrade kernel :) very thx erUSUL
[12:20] <donkie> Knightwise: ipcop is a cool firewall
[12:20] <frup> otherwise configure apache
[12:20] <sunseeker888> HI guys, help needed. I have made a cd from windows containing all documents files (words processing). Can ubuntu read these files from the cd drive? it is saying no media in dvd drive
[12:20] <donkie> Knightwise: or pfsense
[12:20] <Thurin1> If that's ok - Synaptic and search for 'gstreamer' - install most of them, especially the oss/alsa ones (if not already installed) that sometimes fixes audio problems.. don't ask me how
[12:20] <Silthias> (Knightwise): heard that backtrack is a good network security distro
[12:20] <donkie> frup: add my username to the group www-data?
[12:20] <mEck0> Thurin1, okay, can it be checked with alsamixer? I have sound, but it doesn't sounds as good as it should
[12:21] <frup> try it
[12:21] <Knightwise> yeah i know ipcop
[12:21] <Thurin1> mEck0: What is your soundcard anyways?
[12:21] <Aolep> hello all. need help... is there an optimized build of firefox for windows xp; like swiftweasel or swiftfox, which are for linux...
[12:21] <Knightwise> but i would like something  like astaro or something
[12:21] <Knightwise> but i dont know if astaro is free
[12:21] <donkie> frup: i think i tried that. hmm. trying again
[12:21] <Thurin1> mEck0: Yes you can check with alsamixer - also check your balances - left/right
[12:21] <Thurin1> I had mine, unknowingly, all the way to the left once and it was just static
[12:22] <mEck0> Thurin1, okay, don't know the soundcard by heart now, but it's the built in one on my HP 6510b
[12:22] <nomopofomo> getting this error while trying to compile lxsplit: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.3/include/limits.h:122:61: error: limits.h: No such file or directory
[12:22] <frup> donkie on my machine i actually just chowned /var/www, it's not good practice though
[12:22] <nomopofomo> or make. whatever youc all it
[12:23] <alipoor> :)
[12:23] <mEck0> Thurin1, HDA Intel I see
[12:23] <Thurin1> mEck0: Yeah.. some 'internal' soundcards are badly supported through alsa
[12:23] <frup> donkie: on the server we use which is fedora 4 apache is configured to point to different users home directories etc... that's the best way maybe
[12:23] <erUSUL> !intelhda
[12:23] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[12:23] <alipoor> EVERYBODY HATES ME AND THINK I'M AN IDIOT
[12:23] <alipoor> EVERYBODY HATES ME AND THINK I'M AN IDIOT
[12:23] <erUSUL> !caps
[12:23] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:23] <alipoor> :)
[12:23] <mEck0> erUSUL, thx
[12:23] <Thurin1> mEck0: ... you could always try installing through Synaptic (it might already be) a package called 'alsa-utils' and then "sudo alsaconf" - maybe it will detect a better driver than what you are using now
[12:23] <frup> woohoo!! alipoor
[12:24] <KenSentMe> Apt is broken because an install of a deb crashed. The package can't be removed or reinstalled. When apt or synaptic is started it says it can't because the archive is missing.  Channel emergency!  And the /var/www is shared through smb.conf correctly without any useraccessdefinition, why cant i write to the www-data samba share?
[12:26] <labinnsw> I have been trying for the last 3 days to find a solution to my problem. I cannot get any sound on Firefox on this link "http://www.yahoo.americangreetings.com/ecards/view.pd?i=293054256&m=8812&rr=y&source=yahoo999" I have tried many proposed solutions but each time I restart fire fox and try again I get the same result. Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this site. Any attempt to install the recommend plug-in s
[12:26] <Thurin1> mEck0: damn :(
[12:26] <idefix> if a package replaces another package should you remove that?
[12:26] <donkie> well, forgot about www, my user cant create files logged in either.
[12:26] <mEck0> Thurin1, maybe alsa-tools is the package I need for that?
[12:26] <Thurin1> mEck0: I don't know where else then ... you could try /usr/bin/alsaconf.. Ubuntu is one linux where I never understood where alsaconf was...
[12:26] <xcasex> ahem. xorg specifies the resolution and displays it correctly, gnome however is stuck at 1024x768 instead of 1366x768. where does gnome panel store its configuration
[12:26] <Thurin1> mEck0: AH! could be
[12:26] <Thurin1> mEck0: Try it .. you have nothing to lose but like 2mb's :)
[12:27] <mEck0> Thurin1, hehe yeah
[12:27] <Thurin1> xcasex: Did you go to 'system - screen resolution' ?
[12:27] <xcasex> Thurin1, yeah 124x768 is the max res in the cappet
[12:27] <xcasex> *capplet
[12:27] <KenSentMe> Thurin1, thanks, after apt-get clean synaptic still wont open, it gives an error
[12:28] <Thurin1> xcasex: Well.. Gnome doesn't really store anything res wise - xorg.conf controls that - you may need to add a modeline
[12:28] <mEck0> Thurin1, didn't help
[12:28] <MrEgg964> Hi everyone. I need some help here, because I messed up user privileges, and now I no longer have system administration privileges. Can anyone help me get them back? tia
[12:28] <Thurin1> xcasex: /var/log/Xorg.0.log - find the resolutions it found and .. google the modelines and how they work
[12:28] <Thurin1> mEck0: Well I suppose your stuck with the howto :( as I said some internal sound cards are really so so ... with Alsa
[12:28] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: explain "I messed up user privileges"
[12:28] <Peanut> MrEgg964: boot from the CD/DVD, and fix /etc/groups and or /etc/sudoers ?
[12:29] <mEck0> Thurin1, ok, thanks for the help
[12:29] <Thurin1> KenSentMe: Ok, what is the error again?
[12:29] <Thurin1> mEck0: You're welcome
[12:29] <KenSentMe> Thurin1, that the archive cant be found
[12:29] <Thurin1> KenSentMe: And this is when your opening Synaptic?
[12:29] <labinnsw> I have been trying for the last 3 days to find a solution to my problem. I cannot get any sound on Firefox on this link "http://www.yahoo.americangreetings.com/ecards/view.pd?i=293054256&m=8812&rr=y&source=yahoo999" I have tried many proposed solutions but each time I restart fire fox and try again I get the same result. Additional plugins are required to display all the media on this site. Any attempt to install the recommend plug-in s
[12:30] <Thurin1> KenSentMe: It may seem lazy.. but try rebooting ... maybe clearing out some tmp's may help your situation
[12:30] <xcasex> Thurin1, well. i know the resolution. depending on which you mean, xorg finds 1366x768, i have the correct modelines defined.
[12:30] <KenSentMe> Thurin1, yesterday someone gave me a command to disregard packages to try to reinstall them because they are broken, i forgot it, do you know?
[12:30] <cyroul> hi everyone
[12:30] <KenSentMe> Thurin1, rebooting doesnt help
[12:30] <Thurin1> xcasex: So you have added a modeline? - you can also try adding the option "NoDDC" (google again) to your Xorg.conf
[12:30] <wil> I am trying to learn linux... I installed some packages but nothing is in the applications menu. Is there any site that has a list of what the folder structures actually mean? (e.g. etc, lib, var, root e.t.c.)
[12:31] <erUSUL> labinnsw: maybe the answer is that the plugins needed do not exists for linux (shockwave and avtiveX)
[12:31] <MrEgg964> erUSUL: well, I created in new group, 'shared', using groupadd shared. Then I add myself to the group, using usermod - G shared fred (fred being my username). If I groups fred, I can see that I am part of two groups : fred and shared. But I can no longer sudo, nor add/remove/update my system.
[12:31] <Thurin1> KenSentMe: No, I have never come by this problem myself.. sorry I do not know the command
[12:31] <xcasex> Thurin1, again, this is what xorg autoconfigured itself to use, gnome boxes itself at 1024x768.
[12:31] <Jay955> i have no problem mapping to the home folder from my xp side but it will not let me browse my shared folder on my secondary drive
[12:31] <labinnsw> erUSUL Thanks for the response
[12:31] <xcasex> whereas the display is at 1366x768
[12:31] <xcasex> looks very odd
[12:31] <alexkreuz> woot
[12:31] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: boot into recovery mode and add yourself to the admin group use "sudo adduser fred admin"
[12:32] <alexkreuz> i now got the latest nvidia drivers working
[12:32] <KenSentMe> Thurin1, ok, thanks for your help
[12:32] <alexkreuz> :)
[12:32] <alexkreuz> thx Thurin1
[12:32] <Thurin1> xcasex: And what I am saying to you is the autoconfig is obviously wrong and Gnome has nothing to do with it - all it does is read from xorg.conf - you must figure out whats wrong in that
[12:32] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: usermod - G shared fred  is a bad bad idea becouse usermod remove you from all the groups you were to place you on the shared group only
[12:32] <Thurin1> xcasex: and you either need to add option "NoDDC" or literally add a modeline to your config file
[12:32] <xcasex> well the autoconfig is right, according to the specs of the laptop display
[12:32] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: you're welcome :)
[12:32] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: from now on use adduser
[12:32] <idefix> I hope I didn't tick any people off here in the past
[12:33] <cyroul> anyone has tried hardy ?
[12:33] <Thurin1> xcasex: It's not right if you do not have the right resolution, correct?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> idefix,  we all got short memories. :)
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> cyroul,  yes. :) discussion of it in #ubuntu+1
[12:33] <Thurin1> xcasex: There is no point discussing Gnome - Gnome has nothing to do with resolutions
[12:33] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: once you get again admin rights you will have to add yourself to many other groups or some things will fail (as audio plugdev lpadmin etc...)
[12:33] <xcasex> Thurin1, dear god. listen to what i am saying
[12:33] <cyroul> Dr_Willis: thks
[12:34] <xcasex> the laptop display is capable of 1366x768
[12:34] <Thurin1> xcasex: You said your resolution is bad yes
[12:34] <xcasex> this is what it is using
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> thats a weird res.
[12:34] <xcasex> gnome boxes itself, i.e cuts off as a normal desktop at 1024px
[12:34] <MrEgg964> erUSUL: ok, will do. Thanks a lot ; I wasn't aware usermod -G would do that, as help states "new list fo supplementary groups" (as opposed to -g).
[12:34] <xcasex> Dr_Willis, asus u1e laptop
[12:34] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: LCD tv standar res
[12:34] <Thurin1> xcasex: Yes I know - .............
[12:34] <erUSUL> MrEgg964: ;)
[12:34] <Thurin1> xcasex: You need "NoDDC"
[12:34] <Thurin1> That's what I'm saying
[12:35] <Thurin1> xcasex: I'm also saying that it again, has nothing to do with Gnome itself - it's the xorg.conf file that's the problem
[12:35] <xcasex> Thurin1, right.
[12:35] <Thurin1> The resolution is proper but the drawing of gnome is too small, or big - again 'NoDDC"
[12:35] <xcasex> Thurin1, not very helpful :)
[12:35] <xcasex> aha.
[12:35] <alexkreuz> Thurin, have you ever tried cedega?
[12:35] <Thurin1> And if that fails... modeline
[12:36] <xcasex> well googled it and trying it then
[12:36] <Thurin1> xcasex: This exact same thing happened to me on arch and FreeBSD
[12:36] <Thurin1> xcasex: Let me guess.. ATI?
[12:36] <levander> Does anyone have a RAZR V3xx that they use to put music on from Linux?
[12:36] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Yes
[12:36] <alexkreuz> Thurin1, can you get it to have decent framerates?
[12:37] <levander> I'm just wondering how well it works
[12:37] <pale-yafa> Hi, is it true that www-data should never ever be the owner of /home/user/public_html
[12:37] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Sure, depends what sort of hardware you have - the games I played on Cedega actually performed better than in Windows on the same machine and hardware specs..
[12:37] <xcasex> Thurin1, intel 965
[12:37] <alexkreuz> hmm
[12:37] <alexkreuz> well ive got a nvidia card
[12:37] <alexkreuz> but updating the drivers didnt do much
[12:37] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: But do keep in mind that not every windows game plays in cedega the ones I tried are like 'platnium' status
[12:37] <alexkreuz> well
[12:37] <alexkreuz> true
[12:37] <Thurin1> xcasex: ... err yeah
[12:38] <alexkreuz> the one one ive tried so far is guild wars
[12:38] <IanLiu> Have someone successfully installed Cedega from CVS here?
[12:38] <alexkreuz> it looks like im playing on a Radeon 8500
[12:38] <alexkreuz> mine is a 7900 GS
[12:38] <Thurin1> It's that 'NoDDC' and even 'IgnoreEDID' options... bar that you literally need to insert a modeline into xorg.conf - if not... yeah you keep getting a massive gnome.. or a gnome inside a black box
[12:39] <mEck0> Thurin1, one question, I'm reading the guide for installing alsa from source now, do I need to uninstall the alsa-version which is installed at the moment, or will it be overwritten?
[12:39] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Never tried guildwars in Linux.. performance is good?
[12:39] <alexkreuz> well
[12:39] <alexkreuz> im a linux n00b so im not sure if im doing something wrong
[12:39] <alexkreuz> but not for me
[12:39] <alexkreuz> the performance is poor
[12:39] <Thurin1> mEck0: It's better to un-install it - but to be honest you are most likely wasting your time unless you found a supported driver in the source version
[12:39] <alexkreuz> with both default, synaptic's latest, as well as nvidia's latest drivers
[12:40] <alexkreuz> er, not both but all three
[12:40] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Cpu/RAM ?
[12:40] <alexkreuz> Intel Core 2 DUO
[12:40] <alexkreuz> 2 GB Ram
[12:40] <alexkreuz> Nvidia 7900GS
[12:40] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Gebus.. :o
[12:40] <alexkreuz> SATA 3GB/S
[12:40] <mEck0> Thurin1, ok
[12:40] <Thurin1> And it's still poor?
[12:40] <alexkreuz> i know
[12:40] <Thurin1> bad :(
[12:40] <idefix> what exactly is an io-slave? an input output slave? what does it do?
[12:40] <alexkreuz> it not a hardware issue because
[12:40] <alexkreuz> for example
[12:40] <Thurin1> Warcraft is pretty smooth
[12:40] <alexkreuz> the smoke effects
[12:40] <alexkreuz> remind me of counterstrike 1
[12:40] <alexkreuz> not-transparent
[12:40] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: But isnt guildwars DX?
[12:40] <FloodBot2> alexkreuz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:40] <idefix> what's the difference of an io-slave to an io-master?
[12:40] <alexkreuz> its not rendering properly
[12:40] <wil> is there a guide anywhere for linux noobs that explains the folder structures? like what var, etc, root e.t.c. does?
[12:40] <donkie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55206/ <- my user need access to /var/www, why cant the user create files?
[12:41] <IanLiu> !cedega
[12:41] <Pici> !enter | alexkreuz
[12:41] <alexkreuz> my bad, im chatting in here as if its AIM
[12:41] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Ok, well I will stay away from guild wars then, if I ever do play a game :D
[12:41] <IanLiu> bot offline? oO
[12:41] <IanLiu> !Cedega
[12:41] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[12:41] <ubotu> alexkreuz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:41] <alexkreuz> Thurin1, yes i think guild wars is dx, does that matter? do openGL games render better?
[12:41] <pale-yafa> wil: stay away from root, etc is the system, car is the online stuff
[12:41] <Thurin1> wil: Yes there is!
[12:42] <Thurin1> wil - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/dirstructure.html
[12:42] <Thurin1> wil: It's pretty much identical to Ubuntu/Linux
[12:42] <Thurin1> so :)
[12:42] <wil> pale-yafa, Thurin1, I am mifrating from windows and I am just having trouble understanding some basics.... like I installed some packages that sounded intresting, but have no idea where they installed or how to use them :(
[12:42] <cpt_ahab> Hi all
[12:42] <IanLiu> I want to install Cedega from CVS, but the script found on the Ubuntu help section doesn't work... In the configuration step, there is an error which tells ./configure does not exist.. any tips?
[12:42] <wil> Thurin1, thanks, I am looking now
[12:42] <cpt_ahab> I'm having a reall problem and I'm a total Newbie
[12:43] <cpt_ahab> please help
[12:43] <cpt_ahab> can I paste in this channel ?
[12:43] <Pici> !paste | cpt_ahab
[12:43] <ubotu> cpt_ahab: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:43] <Thurin1> wil: Of course a few directories don't exist in Linux - so you won't need worry about those ;D
[12:43] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Far far better
[12:43] <pale-yafa> wil: which package ?
[12:43] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: GL works well in Linux.. DX has to be emulated all the time.
[12:44] <mavi-> not emulated
[12:44] <mavi-> translated
[12:44] <cpt_ahab> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55207/
[12:44] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: MESA is GL, you see so it does not have to be emulated - DX is emulated/translated.
[12:44] <Frogzoo> !docs | wil
[12:44] <ubotu> wil: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[12:44] <mavi-> and DX-translation works kinda good for now
[12:44] <Thurin1> mavi-: How can you translate something without knowing the source?
[12:44] <cpt_ahab> that is just a simpler mailer that is erroring
[12:44] <mavi-> you translate the op-codes
[12:44] <Thurin1> You cannot translate a book you've never read :o
[12:44] <Thurin1> :)
[12:44] <mavi-> emulating would be to render in software
[12:45] <cpt_ahab> the error log is saying "fatal: Recipient addresses must be specified on the command line or via the -t option
[12:45] <cpt_ahab> any ideas ?
[12:45] <wil> pale-yafa, Mainly I wanted to take a look at tiny-erp (it was in add remove, but created no icons in applications, however it came up when I typed erp in search :S), but I have no idea where the actual folder was located.... and aol server (that sounded intresting) and a couple of other things... I dont want to ask for help on every issue I have, I just want to work out where files are installed and how to do things for myself!
[12:45] <ali1234> it doesn't matter whether you use GL or GX, it still has to be translated to GPU opcodes...
[12:45] <Thurin1> mavi-: Well whatever way we slice it .. DX is slower in Linux than a GL based game (most) of the time.
[12:45] <mavi-> yeah
[12:45] <alexkreuz> yea im ranging between 15 and 80 fps with plenty of lag in between
[12:45] <Thurin1> And some DX stuff is simply not supported
[12:45] <mavi-> you can install native DX in wine tho, makes some games better and give you support for more stuff
[12:46] <Thurin1> mavi-: yah
[12:46] <wil> its just annoying (but funny) that some apps that I have tried like linux spring-ta... I just can not get working properlly and I have more luck running the windows version under wine!
[12:46] <Pici> cpt_ahab: It would probably be more appropriate if you asked that in ##php :)
[12:46] <cpt_ahab> LOL
[12:46] <pale-yafa> wil: usually when you install something you will see it in application, but some stuff needs to be launched from terminal, try looking at the docs of your package, and you should find help, and also try man package_name
[12:46] <cpt_ahab> thay told me to caom here :)
[12:47] <donkie> what channel could help me with user filerights problems?
[12:47] <xcasex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/178596 !!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:48] <Thurin1> xcasex: Told you - it's the same with ATI
[12:48] <Thurin1> it's a known issue.. and only NoDCC/IgnoreEDID and modelines fixes it... well for some ATI cards anyways.
[12:48] <lonran> hi everyody
[12:49] <xcasex> Thurin1, bah ;_;
[12:49] <citm> i want to reinstall ubuntu because my install messed up. I have gone back into live cd, but when i get to the partition part of the install i cant seem to select the partition i want to install it to.
[12:49] <Thurin1> The more they try to add to xorg.. the worse it gets - they should fork into xorg-ati and xorg-nv. That's what I think.
[12:49] <lonran> is it normal that do "sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox" when it is installed and it ask to download 118Mb?
[12:50] <Thurin1> lonran: yeah
[12:50] <Pici> lonran: yes.
[12:50] <Thurin1> lonran: No! actually
[12:50] <Elko_> Hello, I don't seem to be able to find apache-modconf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55208/ - Where can I get it?
[12:50] <Thurin1> lonran: It should ask you, in a perfect world, if you would like to download a supermodel as well.
[12:50] <Thurin1> :P
[12:50] <alexkreuz> actually, the lag COULD be explained in another way
[12:50] <Pici> lonran: The build depends are packages that are needed to compile the application.  Not packages needed to run it.
[12:50] <alexkreuz> guild wars is downloading data in the background
[12:50] <alexkreuz> cuz its a new install
[12:50] <alexkreuz> so that may be causing hte lag
[12:51] <lonran> Pici, thnks
[12:51] <Thurin1> sudo apt-get retrieve lindsay lohan
[12:51] <Thurin1> hah
[12:51] <alexkreuz> the lag seems more like network latency rather than hardware problem
[12:51] <citm> how do ireinstall ubuntu?
[12:51] <Thurin1> citm: .. cfdisk and break things, for fun, and then re-install (that's the hard way, but probably the best)
[12:52] <Thurin1> I'm not sure if you can install ubuntu-ontop of ubuntu.. but that's probably a bad idea anyways - so cfdisk, delete all the partitions and reboot with your Ubuntu cd.
[12:52] <Pici> citm: Put the ubuntu CD in, install.
[12:52] <pajamian> citm: can always try the alternate install CD, I've found the partitioning in that to be easier (as a personal opinion).
[12:52] <citm> cfdisk? Just delete my partitions and recreate them? I cant select the partition i want it to install to when i get to the partition part of the install process
[12:52] <Thurin1> citm: yup
[12:52] <alexkreuz> couldnt you make a 2nd ext3 partition and install ubuntu there?
[12:52] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Yeah, but why waste the diskspace?
[12:53] <alexkreuz> oh, i thought he didnt want to mess up the existnig one
[12:53] <Thurin1> ahh
[12:53] <alexkreuz> Thurin1, have you used vmware server on linux?
[12:53] <citm> what do i put for mount point, when i am recreating the partitions?
[12:54] <Thurin1> Well I never worry about the OS.. that I can get back, it's the unreplaceable stuff I worry about you know like things I create - one of a king docs/pics etc :D
[12:54] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Nope can't say that I have
[12:54] <pajamian> citm: for a single partition install: /
[12:54] <alexkreuz> i am debating whether to convert my 2nd machine to linux or server 2003
[12:54] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Well what do you want to do?
[12:54] <citm> Well when i select the partition i want it to install to (cause i need dual boot) i just get the error: No Root File System
[12:54] <alexkreuz> with server 2003 i can go with ms virtual server 2005, with linux probably vmware server
[12:55] <alexkreuz> well, i want to be able to run multipl evirtual machines on it as well as play games
[12:55] <citm> No root file system is defined.
[12:55] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Bah, 2003.
[12:55] <alexkreuz> its kind of a multi-purpose machine
[12:55] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: It will be easier
[12:55] <alexkreuz> im not worried about easier, but i would lik eperformance
[12:55] <alexkreuz> the stopping factor is (like always) games
[12:55] <Thurin1> alexkreuz: Server performance wise Ubuntu or some other variant .. but ... games 2003.
[12:56] <moad> where do i get a linux keylogger ?
[12:56] <Thurin1> It's too bad because Linux/Ubuntu is really good with native games - very speedy.
[12:56] <Thurin1> moad: Google
[12:56] <Thurin1> :)
[12:56] <alexkreuz> well, i dunno i think cedega is doing the trick
[12:56] <moad> i couldnt find anything , anyone knows a free one that i could use ?
[12:56] <alexkreuz> 1) i changed the profile from win98 to winxp, and that solved the graphics glitches
[12:57] <pajamian> moad: what do you want a keylogger for?
[12:57] <alexkreuz> and 2) i think the lag is just network latency cuz guild wars is downloading patches
[12:57] <FGsTkkMa> question: can u install ubuntun in a separate partition and thereafterr install ur program files in the old one. in other words, does it require programs to be installed in teh same part as system files?
[12:57] <samt1> hi there
[12:57] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: define "programs"
[12:57] <alexkreuz> also this new nvidia driver has improved my compiz fusion
[12:57] <moad> pajamian: to check what my kids are doing when i am not there , only a little security
[12:57] <samt1> i can't find much information about desktop search - i have the deskbar installed but when i use tracker to search i get no results
[12:57] <alexkreuz> its really smooth now
[12:57] <Slap_Stick> hey how can i use sudoers file to allow a group to su to a user without supplying a password? i tried %group ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/su - user but it still asks for a password
[12:58] <FGsTkkMa> games, word editor...etc..anything
[12:58] <shamrock> I can ssh in to my remote machine. But how do I chown a bunch of files? "sudo chown -R newuser *" doesnt work. It jus returns with no message. Suggestions?
[12:58] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: thing is, that it's not easy to separate the system components from the programs, with the exception of the Linux kernel everything is really "programs"
[12:58] <compwiz18> Slap_Stick: I may be way off, but I think that you can't put parameters on the command- so maybe make a shell script that contains su - user and make it executable with sudo
[12:59] <moad> so . could anyone help me?
[12:59] <PLRE> YELLO!
[12:59] <PLRE> EVERYBODY HATES ME AND THINK I'M AN IDIOT!
[12:59] <Pici> !caps | PLRE
[12:59] <Ziroday> I am trying to patch my madwifi-ng drivers with a patch from aircrack-ng.org, i have downloaded the .patch file but I have no idea what to do with it next, any pointers?
[12:59] <ubotu> PLRE: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[13:00] <Ziroday> !ops | PLRE
[13:00] <ubotu> PLRE: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[13:00] <PLRE> BECAUSE I'M A SANDNAGGER
[13:00] <Jay955> i have no problem mapping to the home folder from my xp side but it will not let me browse my shared folder on my secondary drive
[13:00] <Slap_Stick> ok cool thanks, i'll write a wrapper for it then
[13:01] <FGsTkkMa> pajamian: so is that a eys or a no? can i install thigs in a different part. from wherever i put ubuntu?
[13:01] <xcasex> Thurin1, hah.
[13:01] <maximilion> Hm, I know rpms are not for Ubuntu. But is there an easy to use rpm installer? I have compiled other packages, but this one gives me hassle...
[13:02] <xcasex> Thurin1, it wasnt all that we though it was
[13:02] <maximilion> Any thoughts on yum ? What is recommended?
[13:02] <xcasex> Thurin1, turns out it was trying to expand onto the dvi port
[13:02] <Ziroday> maximilion: you can use alien to install .rpm files
[13:02] <samt1> i can't find much information about desktop search - i have the deskbar installed but when i use tracker to search i get no results. does anyone know if something has to be enabled first?
[13:02] <maximilion> Ziroday: I used alien, but didn't get a .deb file but a lot of folders.
[13:02] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: if you install programs from source you can put them where you want (which can easily be on a seperate partition), but if you install programs through apt or synaptic then they pretty much go where ubuntu puts them which is mixed up in the same directories as the other pre-installed programs.  YOu can, however, put user files on a seperate partition, so things like your own personal settings, music, photos, documents, etc, wou
[13:02] <pajamian> ld be seperate.
[13:03] <Ziroday> maximilion: you probably didnt use the correct options try sudo alien -i <rpmfile>
[13:03] <maximilion> Ziroday: And I don't know how to run the correct makefile... lots of .bins and makefiles
[13:04] <pc13> ola
[13:04] <Ziroday> maximilion: and look for errors in the terminal
[13:04] <pajamian> maximilion: what program are you trying to install?
[13:04] <FGsTkkMa> paj> is there any way to edit synaptics or customize it or request it to ask me where anytime it installs anything?
[13:04] <maximilion> Ziroday: I hereby bet my huge red hat that I did it that way, it worked for a few minutes, and reported no errors.
[13:04] <itai-michaelson> is there a way to get rid of the SDA1 icon on my gnome desktop?
[13:05] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: not that I know of.  It would be a setting for dpkg if you could.
[13:05] <xerxes1358> Hello
[13:05] <cpt_ahab> fixed it
[13:05] <EtteSB> how would i go about working out where a .deb file installed to?
[13:06] <alexkreuz> woot
[13:06] <alexkreuz> stable 60 fps on guild wars
[13:06] <Pici> EtteSB: dpkg -L packagename
[13:06] <dreamer> can someone help me install googles video-upload-app? it's a .jar-file but I'm not sure how to handle it
[13:06] <pajamian> itai-michaelson: if you're asking if you can turn off the drive icons on the desktop the answer is yes.
[13:06] <EtteSB> thanks
[13:06] <maximilion> Ziroday: I owe you a hat. :P Where should I send it?
[13:06] <FGsTkkMa> ok, thanks this is my first time on linux so...=/ >Another question. is the xx3 or whatever it was called file system essetial for linux? also can programs be installed on ntfs
[13:07] <mEck0> Thurin1, have just installed alsa manually and now it sounds much better :)
[13:07] <compwiz18> FGsTkkMa: no, there are many filesystems, but ext3 is the one used by ubuntu by default - programs shouldn't be installed on ntfs be cause there will probably be permissions problems
[13:08] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: you can install programs on an ntfs filesystem, or whatever filesystem you want that linux can recognize, including FAT, VFAT, NTFS, ext2, ext3, XFS, reiser, ... the list goes on and on.
[13:08] <alexkreuz> mEck0, what kind of sound card to you use?
[13:08] <mEck0> alexkreuz, HDA Intel
[13:08] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: but refer to what compwiz18 said about permissions problems with ntfs
[13:08] <FGsTkkMa> thanks paj, my inital thought was on what comp said. thanks for clearing that issue
[13:08] <alexkreuz> ah
[13:09] <FGsTkkMa> so the ideal is ext3
[13:09] <Pici> FGsTkkMa: ext3 or ext2 ideally.
[13:09] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: since you can't run the same programs in windows as you can in linux anyways, there really is no point to install linux programs on a windows filesystem.
[13:09] <compwiz18> pajamian: FGsTkkMa: I have no evidence that permsisions will be screwed up, just a hunch
[13:09] <Pici> FGsTkkMa: There are 'drivers' for windows that allow you to read/write on ext2/3 filesystems as well.
[13:10] <FGsTkkMa> yeah my humble windows program understanding says so too
[13:10] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: compwiz18 XFS is a good one too, that's what I use, but ext3 is the default and it is excellent.
[13:10] <compwiz18> jfs, reiserfs also work
[13:10] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: I wouldn't use ext2 except as a small boot partition or for things like floppy disks, it's old and lacks features such as journalling.
[13:10] <FGsTkkMa> can u explain why it is good. i really dont know how files work in lunix or how the system is structured so >.<
[13:10] <compwiz18> FGsTkkMa: it's basically a matter of choice and application, but ext3 is good for most purposes
[13:11] <Luckenzy> olá?
[13:11] <Pici> !es | Luckenzy
[13:11] <ubotu> Luckenzy: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:11] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: just use ext3 if you don't know the difference.  it's a good all-purpose filesystem.
[13:11] <FGsTkkMa> ok thanks
[13:11] <compwiz18> FGsTkkMa: linux doesn't use drives, it just has a /, and everything (flash drives, cd drives, etc) can be found in a directory under /
[13:11] <coolbhavi> keyboard keys not working
[13:11] <coolbhavi> like q e r u i not working
[13:12] <FGsTkkMa> seems more inteligent. anyone know where i can read more about ubuntu/linux's structures?
[13:12] <coolbhavi> others are fine in gutsy
[13:12] <compwiz18> coolbhavi: I won't ask how you're typing then, but does your keyboard work in other operating systems/other computers?
[13:12] <coolbhavi> I am on fiesty now
[13:13] <daniel92> FGsTkkMa: Just look for a tutoria on the linux filesystem
[13:13] <compwiz18> coolbhavi: did you check your keyboard layout?
[13:13] <pajamian> !ext3 | FGsTkkMa
[13:13] <ubotu> FGsTkkMa: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[13:13] <compwiz18> FGsTkkMa: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+filesystem+structure&btnG=Google+Search
[13:13] <coolbhavi> yes it works perfectly in fiesty
[13:13] <pajamian> hrmmm, that didn't say much, heh
[13:13] <Some_ux> hi
[13:13] <compwiz18> !hi | Some_ux
[13:13] <ubotu> Some_ux: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:13] <coolbhavi> yes I did check
[13:14] <compwiz18> coolbhavi: do the keys flat out not work, or do they type the wrong letters?
[13:14] <coolbhavi> They get recognised when I run xev
[13:15] <Some_ux> upgrade question: Any potential damage when going from 7.04 to 7.10 server ? I have Vmware on the machine will everything work properly once the upgrade is complete ?
[13:15] <Jay955>  i have no problem mapping to the home folder from my xp side but it will not let me browse my shared folder on my secondary drive
[13:15] <coolbhavi> XlookupString returning 0 bytes
[13:16] <maximilion> Ziroday: Should I add --script to the alien command?
[13:16] <EtteSB> jay955: you got the drivers for windows to read ext partitions?
[13:16] <coolbhavi> any help
[13:16] <coolbhavi> ?
[13:16] <itai-michaelson> pajamian, how do i do that ? (
 yes i do
  it tells me i don't have permission
[13:17] <pajamian> itai-michaelson: from the terminal type: gconf-editor
[13:17] <coolbhavi> ascii manipulation error huh?
[13:17] <pajamian> then on the tree on the left goto...
[13:17] <itai-michaelson> pajamian, ok...
[13:18] <pebs74> anyone noticed the flash plugin unstability lately in firefox?
[13:18] <pajamian> apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[13:18] <mEck0> Hi! someone coding java here? I wonder what a stub is?
[13:18] <pajamian> and in the right pane, uncheck the box for volumes_visible
[13:18] <[1ur1]> quit
[13:18] <pajamian> then close.
[13:18] <itai-michaelson> pajamian, ok - got it . THANX
[13:18] <pajamian> itai-michaelson: yw
[13:18] <ikonia> ;/last Thurin1
[13:18] <ikonia> oops
[13:19] <ikonia> sorry buffer cache
[13:19] <Hyuukai> HEllo
[13:19] <EtteSB> jay955: im stumped then. dont use windows atm. you looked in the forums?
[13:19] <Hyuukai> I am having a problem with azerues i installed it through add/remove and when i open it, it opens then shutsdown? ive uninstalled it through synaptic and reinstalled it but it does the same?
 yes i have didn't find anything to help me :(
[13:20] <FGsTkkMa> is upgrading from one version of ubuntu to the next troublesome? is it more efficient to format and reinstall, like in windows?
[13:20] <LukeLC> I'm getting "packages broken" when I try apt-get some stuff, what can I do?
[13:20] <paul__>  I use Windows as a Primary OS (yes i know i suck) but I am still learning Ubuntu and don't want to "dive in" yet. When I restart my computer GRUB automatically see's Ubuntu as the default and I have to scroll down to Windows . Is there a command or a way I can set it as default on Windows?
[13:20] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: it's easy
[13:20] <hever_> Hi there. How can I configure that the F12 key acts as DEL key ???
[13:21] <coolbhavi> Ok a power cut.. will be back soon
[13:21] <symphony_bt> hi!! i have installed broadcom wifi linux driver and the device is recognized..but i can't find any wireless networks.. on windows i can what's the problem?????
[13:21] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: when a new version is available it shows a button in the upgrade manager that you click on and it just leads you right through it.
[13:21] <Some_ux> I have a question about going from 7.04 to 7.10. Took me a very long while to config the Ubuntu box so it will do all the 101 things i want it to do. Now I fear that if I upgrade to 7.10 it will mess up everything, is this fear warranted ?
[13:21] <ikonia> paul__ in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst set the default 0 option to default 6 (or whatever your windows OS is - count down starting with the first = 0, second =1, third =2, etc)
[13:21] <FGsTkkMa> so paj, formatting is not a nessecity  ?
[13:22] <hever_> How can I configure that the F12 key actAs as DEL key ??? And that @ should not be as second key on L but on Q ?
[13:22] <pajamian> FGsTkkMa: not for an upgrade
[13:22] <ikonia> Some_ux: for something - yes, eg: xorg is a new version, with compiz along side it, other stuff, eg: apache - no2
[13:22] <ikonia> no
[13:22] <Hyuukai> anyone help with my azerus problem?
[13:22] <DaDiablo> can someone help me with installing A4 Tech webcam, cause I get errors with compiling spca5xx drivers
[13:22] <pajamian> Some_ux: no guarantee, make a backup.
[13:22] <ikonia> huff3r: you probably need to use a different version of java, look in /etc/alternatives/java and see what it's linked to
[13:22] <paul__> how do i find the path you put in ikoni?
[13:22] <Some_ux> ikonia: primary concern, is vmware and OpenVPN
[13:22] <ikonia> DaDiablo: are the drivers not part of the kernel already
[13:23] <maximilion> Hm used sudo alien -i ->"dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture i386 does not appear in package's list (amd64)"
[13:23] <luo> hi
[13:23] <[0x90]> ohhhh dpkg!!
[13:23] <DaDiablo> ikonia, I dunno, how may I check this?
[13:23] <ikonia> paul__: as I said, your first boot option is 0, your second is 1 your third is 2, so if windows is the 4th boot option set default 3
[13:23] <ikonia> DaDiablo: look at what the driver is called, and modprobe it, or look on google to see what drivers support it
[13:23] <pajamian> maximilion: you're trying to build a 64 bit package on a 32 bit OS
[13:23] <Some_ux> pajamian: I understand. I will take the time to backup everything. though this will cost me time and probably some money.
[13:23] <maximilion> Do I have the wrong .rpm? I do have an amd64 (Opteron) and the .rpm is supposed to be for amd64
[13:24] <ikonia> !alien | maximilion
[13:24] <ubotu> maximilion: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[13:24] <ikonia> maximilion: I would never use alien
[13:24] <paul__> yes ikoni but where do i set it in windows bios or what
[13:24] <pajamian> Some_ux: I can't speak for how it works with vmware or openvpn, sorry.  I would recommend a backup regardless of how much experience I have with it, though.
[13:24] <ikonia> paul__: in /boot/grub/menu.lst as I said
[13:24] <maximilion> ikonia: Is there a desktop rpm manager for converting to .deb or installing .rpm? .rpms are all that are built from the vendor.
[13:24] <ikonia> Some_ux: I wouldn't have confidence with vmware with it being a 3rd party product
[13:25] <luo> ?
[13:25] <ikonia> maximilion:  I wouldn't use rpm's on a non-redhat system. What are you trying to install ?
[13:25] <maximilion> pajamian: But I selected 64-bit on install? How do I check this?
[13:25] <paul__> how do i get to it f2 as normal
[13:25] <pajamian> maximilion: you may have an amd 64 bit cpu but it appears you still have the i386 version of ubuntu installed.
[13:25] <ikonia> maximilion: uname -a - this will chow you if your using 64bit
[13:25] <ikonia> show
[13:25] <maximilion> oki
[13:26] <YazzY> hi guys
[13:26] <Some_ux> pajamian: True enough. Murphy's law cannot be undone.
[13:26] <maximilion> ikonia: Returns "Linux opteron-linux 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Fri Feb 1 04:59:50 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux"
[13:26] <pajamian> maximilion: what program are you trying to install anyways?
[13:26] <FGsTkkMa> other questions> how much space does ubuntu take on a "generous"install, and how is the 64bit version shaping up?
[13:26] <ikonia> maximilion: your using 32 bit
[13:26] <w10> allow
[13:26] <YazzY> which package includes strings  ?
[13:26] <maximilion> !?
[13:26] <pajamian> maximilion: i686 = 32 bit
[13:26] <ikonia> YazzY: core-utils I think
[13:26] <pajamian> not 64
[13:26] <ikonia> maximilion: your using 32bit
[13:26] <Some_ux> ikonia: Vmware works like a charm, but it did have to go through hell to make it work
[13:26] <ikonia> Some_ux: so I wouldn't put money on stability on 7.04 -> 7.10 update
[13:26] <YazzY> ikonia: i have coreutils installed but no string
[13:26] <ikonia> !info strings
[13:26] <ubotu> Package strings does not exist in gutsy
[13:27] <MGalaxy> how can I force thunderbird to open FEEDs in Firefox, not in a new window in thunderbird?
[13:27] <pajamian> maximilion: you can either download and install the x64 version of ubuntu from the top down, or get the 32 bit rpm of the program you are installing.
[13:27] <ikonia> maximilion: what is the program you are trying to instrall
[13:27] <Some_ux> OK, so i suppose the question is: Install from scratch or upgrade ?
[13:27] <ikonia> install even
[13:27] <IdleOne> pajamian, the deb not the rpm
[13:27] <maximilion> I'm still thinking how I could have made such an error...
[13:27] <ikonia> Some_ux: personal preference is always instrall from scratch if you can afford the time
[13:27] <wil> is there a full screen button? I keep playing games that are full screen then I get a dialog or something from another program and then the full screen app goes to windowed mode, I have tried various things but I cant get it to go back full screen?
[13:27] <ikonia> maximilion: easy to download the wrong version
[13:28] <pajamian> Some_ux: I would try the upgrade, if it doesn't work out you can still install from scratch
[13:28] <pajamian> IdleOne: he's trying to use alien to install from an rpm
[13:28] <ikonia> pajamian: but he won't say what package for some reason
[13:28] <pajamian> ikonia: yeah, I know
[13:28] <Some_ux> I suppose i will have to buy an external HD to backup my files
[13:28] <IdleOne> pajamian, ahh I see. not a good idea. better to compile from source
[13:28] <YazzY> god damned
[13:29] <YazzY> how can i find out what meta package includes binary "strings"?
[13:29] <ikonia> !find strings
[13:29] <pajamian> IdleOne: I tend to agree with you, still trying to find out what the program is he's trying to install.
[13:29] <ubotu> Found: hildon-common-strings-l10n-mr1
[13:29] <hever_> How can I configure that the F12 key acts as DEL key ??? And that @ should not be as second key on L but on Q ? In the best way that also shell is affected...
[13:29] <ktwilight[m]> YazzY, apt-file should help
[13:29] <IdleOne> pajamian, tell him to search synaptic he might find the package in there
[13:29] <ikonia> ktwilight[m]: thats what I was looking for, thank you
[13:29] <Some_ux> Thanks. cyl
[13:30] <ikonia> IdleOne: he won't say what he's trying to install for some crazy reason
[13:30] <alexkreuz> is there a way to resize a window via a key command?
[13:30] <pajamian> IdleOne: it may be in a repository he's not using, for all I know he's trying to install libdvdcss or something.
[13:30] <YazzY> ktwilight[m]: thanks
[13:30] <IdleOne> ikonia, well that is fine. but he can search synaptic on his own and might find it. make sure universe and all is enabled
[13:30] <ikonia> alexkreuz: you can do it when you launch a command from the command line, I don't think gnome has a resize key short cut
[13:30] <ktwilight[m]> YazzY, no probs. make sure you apt-file update first ;)
[13:31] <hever_> Or does someone know how I can use the normal mouse button as right click button? (At the moment I'm using mouseemu)
[13:31] <ikonia> maximilion: what is the program you are trying to instrall
[13:31] <IdleOne> ikonia, this is maximilion we are talking about correct?
[13:31] <ikonia> IdleOne: correct
[13:32] <citm> totally screwing my laptop here.. deleting the partitions and recreating them gives me even less options at the install menu
[13:32] <Superbb> Does anyone know why all of a sudden when I try my linux machine tonight and try a program, it gives me "Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[13:32] <Superbb> "
[13:32] <ikonia> Superbb: what program?
[13:32] <IdleOne> maximilion, it would make things so much easier if you told us what it is you are trying to install.
[13:32] <Superbb> Symfony
[13:32] <maximilion> ikonia & friends: So should I get the proper version and reinstall? Is 64-bit more stable, and does 64-bit cause trouble with nvidia 6800 generic driver, other apps?
[13:32] <ikonia> Superbb: no idea, possibly an update broke something
[13:32] <ikonia> maximilion: what bit of software are you trying to instrall via rpm
[13:32] <Superbb> I'll try and give it a reboot or two.
[13:32] <Superbb> I'll also backup since I'm afraid of data loss..
[13:33] <ikonia> Superbb: I don't think that will make much of a difference
[13:33] <ikonia> Superbb: seg faults are normally fatal until fixed within the software (unless you have bad ram)
[13:33] <maximilion> Well, ok. I have an educational license for my XP 64-bit on the same PC. Not happy with stability and speed, so I thought I would (illegally? dunno) install it in Linux
[13:33] <ikonia> maximilion: what bit of software are you trying to instrall via rpm
[13:33] <maximilion> for Maya 8.5
[13:33] <pajamian> maximilion: you now have at least three people who have asked you several times what you are trying to install, if you tell us we can give you much better help.  As for 32 bit vs 64 bit that is a completely different issue, for the desktop I tend to recommend 32 bit even on a 64 bit cpu.
[13:33] <Superbb> I think it's because of what I did to PHP.. my bad Ikonia.
[13:33] <talash> Hi all. I am trying to make my gutsy print to an hp-officejet printer which is connected to a windows xp computer.
[13:33] <ikonia> maximilion: you don't install XP by rpm - so what are you trying to install via rpm
[13:34] <talash> The gutsy sees the printer shared, I am able to install the driver and the ppd file
[13:34] <talash> I have hplip and hpijs installed etc
[13:34] <IdleOne> ikonia, Maya 8.5
[13:34] <ikonia> IdleOne: via rpm  ?
[13:34] <IdleOne> heh
[13:34] <IdleOne> beats me
[13:34] <talash> the print job is sent to the printer, the printer even starts making some noise, but the job gets stuck
[13:34] <ikonia> IdleOne: I thought he wanted that on XP ?
[13:34] <IdleOne> I have never heard of it
[13:34] <pajamian> maximilion: Autodesk Maya?
[13:34] <LukeLC> hi Everyone, I just went to remove KDE-4 and I accidently removed some other packages like kdesktop. Now when I go to reinstall them I get the error "broken packages" can anyone help?
[13:35] <talash> in fact on my windoze machine i see the job stuck on status of something like 64kb/7mb or something and it doesn't make any progress
[13:35] <jekov> ok
[13:35] <maximilion> Well, I have it on XP 6-bit. On my DVD, only .rpm is available, and I asked support and they said "Fedora/Red Hat is recommended", but I like Ubuntu more :)
[13:35] <talash> has anybody set this thing up successfully
[13:35] <ikonia> maximilion: the maya rpm is not advised to be instraller on ubuntu
[13:35] <ikonia> maximilion: it is maya you wan't to install isn't it ?
[13:35] <maximilion> ikonia, yes.
[13:36] <pajamian> maximilion: ok, if they have a source package use that, otherwise use alien.
[13:36] <IdleOne> better to use source
[13:36] <ikonia> pajamian: it won't work - glibc is too new in ubuntu as well as some graphics lib
[13:36] <maximilion> pajamian: If I won't get into trouble running 32-bit on amd64, I will keep this Ubuntu, since everything works well
[13:37] <cvw> How do I prevent updatedb from running at every boot?
[13:37] <pajamian> maximilion: it won't cause any problems to run 32 bit on a 64 bit cpu, it just doesn't work the other way around (you can't run 64 bit on a 32 bit cpu)
[13:37] <maximilion> pajamian: Only .rpms are available on the DVD, and I doubt Autodesk will give me source ;)
[13:37] <cvw> maximilion: use alien
[13:38] <pajamian> maximilion: then you're stuck with using alien.
[13:38] <maximilion> It mentioned skipping scripts. Should I use sudo alien -i --script?
[13:38] <pajamian> maximilion: as for licensing issues, take that up with autodesk, I will assume that if they are giving you support and a CD with RPMs you have a license to use it, but it's not my place to question it.
[13:39] <pajamian> maximilion: google for: ubuntu maya
[13:39] <wil> I just plugged in my scanner (hp 4100c) and nothing has happened, how do I detect/use it?
[13:39] <pajamian> maximilion: you get lots of helpful links
[13:40] <maximilion> yeah, visited most of them including the tutorial on ubuntu forums, which says to use sudo alien -cv, which just makes a folder
[13:40] <maximilion> I should say: a folder tree full of makefiles and .bins
[13:40] <maximilion> I thought alien made .deb files?
[13:40] <cyroul> wil: lsusb to see if detected
[13:41] <bill_> Good Morning Smart Masses!!! It looks like it has been a busy night.
[13:41] <pajamian> maximilion: this is the link you want: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66859&highlight=maya ... did you follow all the directions there?
[13:41] <wil> cyroul, that just listed 5 usb busses all with 0000:0000 as id
[13:42] <maximilion> Yes, will run it again with the 32-bit version, but I suspect it will still make a folder tree and not a .deb file
[13:42] <cyroul> wil: not detected
[13:43] <pajamian> maximilion: give it a try and see what happens, the person who wrote that actually got it to work, just about everyone in here is just guessing on what needs to be done.
[13:43] <wil> cyroul, how do I detect it!?
[13:43] <bill_> Does anyone have a COMPIZ related tutorial link?
[13:44] <cyroul> what is your scanner ?
[13:44] <pajamian> !compiz | bill_
[13:44] <ubotu> bill_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[13:44] <IdleOne> maximilion, I assume you have paid for that software. I would contact them and ask them to please provide a .deb package. might taKe years but if you like ubuntu you will be sticking with it for years
[13:44] <maximilion> pajamian: As I said, I will, just asked if you knew why alien wasn't making a .deb file :)
[13:45] <maximilion> IdleOne: In years, I could learn a new 3D app ;)
[13:45] <wil> cyroul: it is a hp scanjet 4100c
[13:45] <pajamian> maximilion: dunno, it could be because you were using x64 rpms
[13:45] <IdleOne> maximilion, follow that link pajamian and follow instructions carefully
[13:45] <maximilion> (Maybe.) Will try.
[13:45] <IdleOne> maximilion, :) true
[13:45] <pajamian> maximilion: give it a try, if you still have problems we're here.
[13:46] <bill_> thx ubotu
[13:46] <IdleOne> !botsnack
[13:46] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[13:46] <pajamian> LoL
[13:47] <ubuntu-pk> hi all
[13:47] <ubuntu-pk> i need some help on ubuntu basic networking
[13:47] <chicabom> tei
[13:48] <chicabom> testio
[13:48] <ubuntu-pk> can anyone who is an expert on networks help me
[13:48] <IdleOne> !ask | ubuntu-pk
[13:48] <ubotu> ubuntu-pk: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:48] <ubuntu-pk> okay need to connect two ubuntu desktops to each other
[13:48] <ubuntu-pk> need help on configuring and connecting :)
[13:49] <KaiForce> do you have a hub or switch?
[13:49] <tvisto> Hi all, sorry how do i go from one folder to another? in dos u type cd.. , here completely forgot, thanks alot!
[13:49] <ubuntu-pk> switch
[13:49] <IdleOne> tvisto, cd
[13:49] <cvw> How do I prevent updatedb from running at every boot?
[13:49] <ubuntu-pk> network cables and two computers
[13:49] <IdleOne> !cli | tvisto
[13:49] <ubotu> tvisto: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[13:49] <KaiForce> ok
[13:49] <maximilion> IdleOne, pajamian: What would be the advantages of reinstalling 64-bit Ubuntu? No hassle with apps/drivers because I have 32-bit on amd6?
[13:49] <KaiForce> make the physical connections
[13:50] <ubuntu-pk> made
[13:50] <tvisto> Thnks guys!
[13:50] <ubuntu-pk> how to setup network configuration
[13:50] <amenado> ubuntu-pk-> now have you assigned ip address to each pc?
[13:50] <KaiForce> are you ever going to connect these to the outside world,  ie internet?
[13:50] <cvw> maximilion: you *might* see a slight performance increase, maybe
[13:50] <pajamian> ubuntu-pk: just install them both on the same network and use whatever app you want to communicate between the two (probably ssh)
[13:50] <ubuntu-pk> how-to assign IPs, go into network admin
[13:50] <Xbehave> is there any way to find out memory frequency?
[13:50] <maximilion> cvw: My main concern is some app or driver getting confused
[13:50] <ubuntu-pk> add 192.168.1 and .2 and subnets <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:50] <bill_> That's wierd, I clicked x box to close firefox and it froze up. What do I do?
[13:51] <amenado> ubuntu-pk-> yes in network admin
[13:51] <bill_> *weird
[13:51] <KaiForce> ubuntu-pk, you should use RFC1918 addresses, ie <IP_ADDRESS> for one, and <IP_ADDRESS> for the other.
[13:51] <Xbehave> bill_: killall -9 firefox-bin
[13:51] <pajamian> maximilion: 64 bit advantages: it makes better use of your cpus capabilities, in other words, better performance...
[13:51] <ubuntu-pk> yeah thats what i meant by .1 and .2
[13:51] <KaiForce> ok, you are good there
[13:51] <ubuntu-pk> should there be hostnames and gateways defined
[13:51] <cvw> maximilion: they won't get confused
[13:51] <KaiForce> you don't need a gateway address unless you have another network you are connecting to, and a router
[13:51] <maximilion> pajamian: And disadvantages? No amd64 packages for a few apps?
[13:52] <ubuntu-pk> alright
[13:52] <Xbehave> the 9 is overkill but it makes sure itworks, i got so fed up of flash/firefox freezing i permenetly have a button to do that
[13:52] <pajamian> maximilion: disadvantages: 32 bit windows audio and video codecs won't run, flash is a pain, java is a pain ...
[13:52] <KaiForce> broadcast address (if you need to specify it) is <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:52] <wil> my scanner is not being detected :( how do I scan for new devices?
[13:52] <darkhunterd> anyone having trouble with firefox freezing a lot?
[13:52] <bill_> Thx xbehave
[13:52] <pajamian> maximilion: my general recommendation is that for desktops use 32 bit, for servers go with 64
[13:52] <ubuntu-pk> okay KaiForce can i ping u privately
[13:52] <ubuntu-pk> and discuss
[13:52] <bill_> where did you learn that
[13:52] <KaiForce> ga
[13:52] <maximilion> pajamian: OK you sold me. I will leave my working Ubuntu alone (even tho Flash still doesn't... but that's for later... ;))
[13:53] <pajamian> maximilion: flash is easy, goto the adobe website, download the tarball and install from there.
[13:53] <amenado> ubuntu-pk-> learn to share knowledge, the reason this channel exist and not private messages is to share know-how
[13:53] <bill_> Florida linux show will be here in my hometown Monday February 11. Is anyone coming?
[13:53]  * maximilion is installing brb
[13:57] <faclon> Hi, someone told that there is a ubuntu version specially for Dell XPS computers, that you only instal it and it recognize all the drivers, is that true?
[13:57] <Pici> faclon: If one exists its not an Official version.
[13:58] <pajamian> faclon: yes, dell released it a few months ago (it was fiesty) I don't know if they have one for gutsy and I don't remember where it is, but if you wait 10 minutes for me to get back I can look it up.
[13:58] <faclon> ok, will wait ;)
[13:59] <pepperjack> i think dell did go to gutsy (current) but not sure
[13:59] <faclon> yes, they told me that is version 7.10 the one for xps
[13:59] <Lacrymology> is there a way to install i386 deb packages in a 64b system?
[13:59] <Lacrymology> I'm using Gutsy
[14:00] <pepperjack> !chroot | Lacrymology
[14:00] <ubotu> Lacrymology: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[14:01] <sansaro> hello
[14:01] <sansaro> guys i need help runing compiz in ubuntu on ( eee pc )
[14:01] <Lacrymology> pepperjack: I don't wat to build a 32 bit environment. I have firefox32 installed, so I figure this can be done somehow. If making a chroot is the only choise, I'll just reinstall the system in 32b because I'm having enough trouble with this already
[14:02] <sansaro> i have it install and some function work but i cant find advanced desktop effect on system
[14:02] <sansaro> i tried CCSm
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> sansaro: You can get good help with that in the #Compiz room
[14:03] <sansaro> then i got the advanced desktop mode
[14:03] <sansaro> ok thank you dude
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:03] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: hey dude
[14:03] <charles061> ciao gente
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Rodolfo
[14:03] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: morning man, whats up?
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Rodolfo: Waiting for coffee to perk and eyes to stop bleeding...  the usual
[14:04] <Frogzoo> anyone had luck with MP3Player in asterisk on gutsy?
[14:04] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: hehe the same here...
[14:04] <WorldBFree> how can i boot the iso from an hd?
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Rodolfo: Is these something On - topic that I may help you with
[14:04] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: of course...actually I need your help
[14:05] <charles061> scusate io vorrei un informazione su come convertire dei file ape in mp3...qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[14:05] <Pici> !it | charles061
[14:05] <ubotu> charles061: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:05] <wil> xsane keeps saying no devices available and lsusb lists nothing... but this scanner worked 3 days ago when windows was on this machine :( what can i do?
[14:05] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: with video card...It's time to make an upgrade and I want to buy a new computer
[14:05] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: can you give me some tips of a nice video card?
[14:05] <pepperjack> !bootstrap | WorldBFree
[14:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootstrap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:05] <danielski_pl> sup all
[14:06] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: as far as I know, ppl say that nvidia card works better on windows instead of linux...is that true? I'm looking for a headache-free video card...if possible :P
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Rodolfo: I use both nvidia and intel, none are bleeding edge and both types work well.  I would avoid the 8000 series of the nvidia.  #ubuntu-offtopic is a good place to ask that as it leads to lots of opinions and discussions.
[14:07] <danielski_pl> my nvidia works perfect now lol after my reinstall and thanx to Envy
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> danielski_pl: BAd bad bad...  Dont use ENVY
[14:08] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: why not?
[14:08] <pepperjack> WorldBFree: cat file.iso > /dev/hda3 or whatever empty partition then you can boot from this floppy http://gujin.sourceforge.net/  <-- is one easy way
[14:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[14:08] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported.  Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[14:08] <faclon> I install my wireless card driver using ndiswrapper
[14:08] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: I see...just one more thing: why are you running away from nv's 8xxx?
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Rodolfo: There was an issue with drivers awhile back.  not sure if it got straightened out and never got around to trying one out
[14:09] <sarthor> Hi, Using ubuntu gusty, "2.6.22-14-generic" running with patch vmware-any-any-update115 and vmware-any-any-update109, i am getting the same error? "Unable to build the vmmon module."Its my 3rd day that i am trying vmware server, 1st i tried on Hardy, but no sucess, now i reinstalled Gusy, but again problem, please help
[14:10] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: Is there any issue with nv's GF7300/7300LE that you've heard of?
[14:10] <danielski_pl> also my card is an 8500GT 512mb
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Rodolfo: Not that I am aware of
[14:11] <danielski_pl> any cool 3d gnome games i can download?
[14:11] <Rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: thanks man...and go get some sleep, sometimes... :P