[05:49] <RawSewage> how do you get video thumbnails in Konq
[05:50] <yokobr> hey folks
[05:50] <teflon> no idea sorry
[05:50] <teflon> hi
[05:50] <h3sp4wn> teflon: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted multiverse universe
[05:50] <yokobr> im making a new distro from scratch
[05:50] <teflon> do I not need the kubuntu repository?
[05:50] <yokobr> what is the licence that i must use to sell it??
[05:51] <h3sp4wn> teflon: unless you want a newer kde or something no
[05:51] <h3sp4wn> teflon: (currently there is not one)
[05:52] <teflon> yeah I do
[05:52] <teflon> oh sorry
[05:52] <teflon> ok I understand
[05:52] <teflon> ok cheers
[05:53] <teflon> can I just use adept updater instead of the shell commands?
[05:54] <davidenik> ecco
[05:54] <davidenik> sorry
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> teflon: no
[05:55] <teflon> damn :)
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> teflon: upgrade from outside X (to be safe) - a full dist-upgrade with adept is suicidal
[05:55] <teflon> ok because I tried it today and debconf gui hung asking me to enter an integer
[05:55] <teflon> ok
[05:56] <RawSewage> If anyone wants video thumbnails:  sudo apt-get install libarts1-xine
[05:56] <teflon> well I tried it from the shell with X enabled is that ok?
[05:56] <RawSewage> so you can see video thumbs in Konqueror
[05:56] <teflon> but I will try again without X
[05:57] <BrightEyes`> after installing postfix how do i configure it?
[05:58] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[05:58] <InteliWasp> i need to figure out why some 42 packages are not updating...
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Or buy a book :) They have entire books to configuring postfix
[05:58] <RawSewage> InteliWasp, python?
[05:58] <InteliWasp> RawSewage: some yes
[05:59] <RawSewage> ignore it
[05:59] <DaSkreech>  as opposed to sendmail where people have dedicated thier life to trying to figure out how to configure it
[05:59] <InteliWasp> RawSewage: and some others too
[05:59] <InteliWasp> RawSewage: like xorg
[05:59] <soulrider> !java
[05:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:59] <RawSewage> InteliWasp, idk
[05:59] <BrightEyes`> DaSkreech: how to i install postfix with adopt?
[05:59] <RawSewage> InteliWasp, I just did a fresh install
[06:00] <DaSkreech> adept?
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Its not that bad (you only need to dedicate your life to figuring it out if you edit sendmail.cf directly - using sendmail.mc is quite a bit easier)
[06:00] <DaSkreech> BrightEyes`: Do it fromt he command line
[06:00] <DaSkreech>  sudo apt-get install mailx
[06:00] <MidMark> safe graphics what differs from normal?
[06:00] <MidMark> which params?
[06:00] <BrightEyes`> DaSkreech: it exits!
[06:01] <BrightEyes`> DaSkreech: it asks if i want to continue[y/n]  i type y and enter and it exits
[06:02] <DaSkreech> With what error?
[06:02] <BrightEyes`> DaSkreech: nothing! it makes the question and then it exits
[06:04] <oswaldo> angel estas
[06:04] <oswaldo> ?
[06:04] <hammer> what is troll? i need the meaning of that word =D
[06:05] <Dasnipa`> yay for spellchecking everywhere
[06:06] <jerp> hammer, the Brothers Grimm wrote about the troll in "The Three Billy Goats Gruff"  it lived under a bridge the would cross and always made them pay a toll to cross
[06:06] <hammer> it should be a verb...
[06:07] <BrightEyes`> DaSkreech: what can i do?
[06:07] <jerp> troll=homeless dude
[06:07] <adam_> Yo, whats with the awful control panel in Kubuntu, - It seems to have taken options way from me when compared with the default KDE control panel !?
[06:08] <ubuntu_> anyone knows how to make this FUCKING Edgy installer install '/' on XFS partition??????????
[06:08] <LjL> adam_: you can get the normal kcontrol back by typing "kcontrol" in a shell
[06:08] <LjL> !language | ubuntu_
[06:08] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:08] <LjL> adam_: or you can add the "Settings" applet to your panel, or...
[06:08] <wiking> HELP!  I dont know what i did. I did always problem with sound in games. Yesterday I did wery happy because all games has had sound, but today already no sound...
[06:08] <Timmmm> ubuntu_: I did I think... Or maybe not - does it refuse because of lilo or something?
[06:08] <LjL> ubuntu_: i'm not sure, but i believe you'd need the Alternate CD for that
[06:09] <digger> hello
[06:10] <tommy> Is Kubuntu having anything software for voice and video chat like yahoo mess in windows
[06:10] <Timmmm> Hi, just upgraded to edgy and now all my fonts look crap. Seems that there is some weird different antialiasing going on that looks rubbish (perhaps there is no hinting).
[06:10] <ubuntu_> Alternate CD DOESN't boot in my system - after choosing anything in the menu I get a blank screen :((((((((((((((((
[06:10] <Jucato> adam_: most of the KControl stuff are still in System Settings, just rearranged a bit. KControl is still installed, but just not in the K Menu.
[06:10] <Timmmm> How do I fix it?
[06:10] <digger> tommy - skype :D
[06:10] <adam_> How the hell do I turn off launch feedback in this retarded control panel ??
[06:10] <andhy> tommy: yes kopete
[06:10] <abattoir> adam_: edgy?
[06:10] <Jucato> adam_: use KControl (don't know why they took out that one)
[06:10] <BrightEyes`> tommy : kopete and kopete
[06:10] <tommy> how to install skype???
[06:10] <Jucato> adam_: Alt+F2, "kcontrol"
[06:10] <LjL> !skype > tommy
[06:10] <Storkme> when i try startx i get this: 'Fatal server error: no screens found' and my xorg.conf file can be found here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/4vKEP281.html#
[06:11] <digger> just download from skupe.com and install :) its easy
[06:11] <digger> no need to compile manualy
[06:11] <LjL> digger: why not use the available package
[06:11] <adam_> jucato_: Nice one thanks.  What was the point in making a control panel thats far worse than the KDE default one.  Madness
[06:11] <adam_> just takes options away from ppl
[06:12] <LjL> adam_, you'll have to admit KControl *is* a bit crowded and messy. perhaps System Settings isn't optimal, but
[06:12] <RawSewage> it's easy to fix
[06:12] <LjL> adam_: anyway, there's nothing taken away, as you can just add KControl to the menu, or use the nice Settings panel applet, or whatever
[06:12] <RawSewage> All you do is Add Settings to the Start Menu
[06:12] <Jucato> adam_: not really. the revamped System Settings was a product of human interface studies. I think it was complete human error that launch feedback just got left out
[06:12] <ubuntu_> hate this freaking dumb installer :[
[06:12] <RawSewage> and then you have a nice KControl in the Start menu, with submenus and everything
[06:12] <adam_> Now I know I'll do just that..
[06:13] <adam_> studies eh... studying subhumans perhaps. heh.
[06:13] <adam_> ok
[06:13] <tommy> problem with installing jdk with adept
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> tommy: use apt-get or aptitude (or you cannot accept the license)
[06:13] <digger> can anyone give me some very good (with many packages) repository'es for kubuntu?? :)
[06:14] <RawSewage> adam_, do you know how to add SEttings
[06:14] <FlipStonE> Hello you all, just chatting while waiting for install of my first kubuntu :-)
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> digger: the official ones - any others are unsupported by this channel
[06:16] <jerp> what is
[06:16] <r3v1lo> Jerp
[06:16] <r3v1lo> How is your internet connectiongoing
[06:17] <jerp> what is "SIOCADDRT" ?
[06:17] <larson9999> i rock!
[06:17] <larson9999> i mean linux rocks!
[06:17] <blurfle> jerp: couldn't add a route
[06:17] <tommy> is there anything like windows blinds or style XP in KUBUNTU ???
[06:17] <jerp> hmmmm, thanks
[06:17] <MasterEvilAce> !wine
[06:17] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:18] <MasterEvilAce> !atm
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <digger> www.kde-look.org - for KDE
[06:18] <blurfle> tommy: it's native
[06:18] <jerp> tommy, I heard there is something called enlightenment
[06:19] <blurfle> jerp: that's another wm/de entirely
[06:19] <RawSewage> If you would like to add functionality to Konqueror, do the following 2 lines  (DO NOT RUN AS SUDO!)
[06:19] <MasterEvilAce> When is WINE going to have an Edgy release fork, or whatever...
[06:19] <RawSewage> 1.  cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[06:19] <jerp> oh
[06:19] <RawSewage> 2. cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/* ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/
[06:19] <Homer> KHello KPeople
[06:19] <Gaz> i've upgraded to edgy, and i am connected to the internet via zydas wireless. however, the only way i can connect is by sudo iwconfig each time. is there an automatic way to do this and how do i remove the constant requests for the root passwords? many thanks :))
[06:19] <jerp> what's wm/de?
[06:20] <digger> people, what at is better - .rpm or .deb packages ?
[06:20] <Homer> Kow Kar Ku Koing?
[06:20] <blurfle> jerp: window manager/ desktop environment
[06:20] <RawSewage> .deb are easier
[06:20] <tommy> Is build essential available pre installed with KUBUNTU Edgy???
[06:20] <Jucato> tommy: no
[06:20] <blurfle> Gaz: you could make an alias, e.g. in bash, alias iwconfig="sudo iwconfig"
[06:20] <RawSewage> I heard .rpm have dependency hell
[06:20] <Zerb_Riss> how do I get WMVs to play in... anything?
[06:21] <Zerb_Riss> they only show a blue screen in Kaffeine and MPlayer
[06:21] <digger> most of the popular programs are available as .deb ?
[06:21] <RawSewage> !wmv
[06:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:21] <Jack12_> hi
[06:21] <Gaz> blurfle: how do i go about doing that
[06:21] <RawSewage> digger, most everything you could need is already in the repos
[06:21] <jerp> dang I wish I was born later in life,
[06:21] <Jack12_> if id do update and unpgrade via commandline (still having dapper) will it automatically do the distupgrade to edgy?
[06:21] <RawSewage> no
[06:22] <blurfle> Gaz: edit ~/.bashrc, and just add that alias line.. check out this page, it does a good job of explaining http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php#alias
[06:22] <Jack12_> or do i have to do this to the sources list?
[06:22] <jfro> anybody know why libdl.so.2 is missing from libc6 package?
[06:22] <RawSewage> !edgy upgrade
[06:22] <jfro> in edgy
[06:22] <Jack12_>   sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:22] <jfro> package search claims it's in there tho
[06:22] <Homer> !edgy
[06:22] <Gaz> any way to remove the root password dialogs?
[06:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[06:22] <digger> ok, because i cannot choose, what distro i want - suse or kubuntu :D
[06:23] <VR^> is there a source-o-matic list for edgy? or can i just change 'dapper' to 'edgy'
[06:23] <r3v1lo> SuSe is good but it uses rpms
[06:23] <RawSewage> digger, try both
[06:23] <r3v1lo> and rpms are crap
[06:23] <Homer> digger, you asking in a kubuntu channel
[06:23] <blurfle> Gaz: you could use visudo to use NOPASSWD:ALL, but that can sometimes be dangerous
[06:23] <RawSewage> digger, theyre free
[06:23] <r3v1lo> It depends on wether you want rpms or deb
[06:24] <r3v1lo> I would say kubuntu is more user friendly
[06:24] <Jack12_> to do the dist-upgrade to edgy its dist-upgrade or do i need to change sources list by hand from dapper->edgy eft
[06:24] <Jack12_> ???
[06:24] <RawSewage> Jack12_, do that line you posted
[06:24] <r3v1lo> but SuSe has more apps out the box which was important to me when I had no internet
[06:25] <r3v1lo> I had internet just not were I had my linux box
[06:25] <RawSewage> Jack12_, they posted linke for you
[06:25] <jfro> anybody know why a .deb file (libc6_2.4) didn't create a link? even tho it shows in --contents
[06:25] <digger> in cd's yes, there ar MANY packages
[06:25] <RawSewage> !edgy | Jack12_
[06:25] <ubotu> Jack12_: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[06:25] <Jack12_> RawSewage: YES, I HAVE BEEN THERE
[06:25] <Jack12_> sry caps+
[06:25] <r3v1lo> and many means gbs of apps
[06:26] <jfro> this sucks
[06:26] <RawSewage> do :   sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <tommy> how to install compiz on my system with intel 845G graphic card and i have 640 MB of RAM and P4 processor
[06:26] <cellofellow> I've a small problem with updating a few packages.
[06:26] <RawSewage> then update/upgrade
[06:26] <digger> and one another important question - what distro (suse or kubuntu (ubuntu)) ar better documented ?
[06:27] <RawSewage> I dont see how you could be better documented than Kubuntu
[06:27] <cellofellow> RawSewage: It won't apt-get dist-upgrade shows 37 upgradable packages it wont upgrade.
[06:27] <RawSewage> I have no idea about Suse
[06:27] <RawSewage> cellofellow, python packs?
[06:27] <digger> ok then I install kubuntu :)
[06:27] <cellofellow> RawSewage: yes, and amarok
[06:27] <jfro> does anybody know hwo to force this package to DO what it's supposed to do? i tkeeps skipping the library symlinks
[06:28] <RawSewage> cellofellow, I dont know about amarok, but I think ignore the python ones
[06:28] <cellofellow> RawSewage:
[06:28] <cellofellow> RawSewage: ok
[06:28] <cellofellow> oops
[06:28] <RawSewage> Personally, I prefer a fresh install
[06:28] <RawSewage> I dont like upgrading
[06:28] <tommy> how to install compiz on my system with intel 845G graphic card and i have 640 MB of RAM and P4 processor
[06:28] <RawSewage> You start out nice and clean.  no baggage or bugs accumulated over the months
[06:29] <cellofellow> amarok, beagle, kde-guidance, hpijs, and python, and tellico, a book-collection app I use.
[06:29] <cellofellow> They won't upgrade
[06:29] <david_> Hi, guys.  Anyone know whether an Edgy install from CD should install Firefox?
[06:29] <Jucato> david_: in Kubuntu, no.
[06:29] <RawSewage> cellofellow, maybe youre sources list still shows dapper on a few lines
[06:29] <cellofellow> david_: ubuntu yes, kubutnu no
[06:29] <jfro> ugh forget it
[06:29] <cellofellow> RawSewage: I dunno
[06:29] <blurfle> tommy: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[06:30] <dom> !obotu
[06:30] <RawSewage> cellofellow, go look    /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about obotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <david_> Thanks - any way of getting it?  It doesn't seem to be in the standard lists for adept.
[06:30] <enir> Firefox-2.0 and Flock 0.7.6 browsers crash after installing Flash pluin
[06:30] <cellofellow> RawSewage: only on two third-party repos I disabled.
[06:30] <cellofellow> enir: I've heard that happening.
[06:30] <cellofellow> enir: flash7 or flash9?
[06:30] <enir> i have been trying to report it since the release
[06:30] <tommy> Ya I followed that Berly link already and ended with no task bar or any sort of thing other than a window!!
[06:30] <enir> 7 and 9
[06:30] <RawSewage> I did a fresh install yesterday, and flash worked fine in FF 2.0
[06:31] <enir> GPL is fine
[06:31] <Homer> how is flash 9 beta working
[06:31] <blurfle> Homer: quite well, imho
[06:31] <cellofellow> tommy: is kde running, beryl is just a window manager. window borders with extra effects basically.
[06:31] <enir> the default version offered by the browser crashes it
[06:31] <VR^> how do i install firefox? i feel so sad without it.
[06:32] <Homer> VR^, sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:32] <cellofellow> VR^: sudo aptitude install firefox
[06:32] <VR^> oh, but of course
[06:32] <Jucato> hm...
[06:32] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install firefox :)
[06:32] <VR^> yessir.
[06:32] <Homer> sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:32] <cellofellow> Jucato: whatever, I just use aptitude a lot
[06:32] <Jucato> lol :)
[06:32] <tommy> KDE did start but after loading only home directory window was available with no window borders
[06:32] <Jucato> I use what works, depending on what I need :)
[06:33] <Jucato> cellofellow: I use aptitude if I know I'll be removing the package(s) later on
[06:33] <cellofellow> tommy: no kicker (panel), or kdesktop?
[06:33] <wiking> help! I have problems with sound devices
[06:33] <cellofellow> Jucato: good idea
[06:33] <david_> sudo apt-get install firefox doesn't work - complains that package firefox is not available but is referred to by another package!
[06:33] <Jucato> david_: make sure that you have the "main" repositories in your sources.list enabled
[06:33] <tommy> no panel but i had my desktop with no icons on it!!!
[06:34] <cellofellow> david_: sounds like sources.list
[06:34] <cellofellow> david_: edgy or dapper?
[06:34] <linuxmigration> fyi: enir is referring to the browser's 'plugin finder service' wizard
[06:34] <cellofellow> tommy: kde isn't working properly
[06:34] <foodcoman> After a alternate Edgy install, what would cause X not to load?  No video.
[06:35] <david_> there'
[06:35] <cellofellow> i'm gonna reboot and try edgy out, see if all worked out. ttfn
[06:35] <Homer> foodcoman, try installing in safe graphix mode
[06:36] <Homer> then install driver
[06:36] <Homer> !ati
[06:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:36] <david_> sorry!  There's a line in the adept repository list for gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/, dist. edgy, main restruicted.  That looks to me like an enabled main repo - am I missing something?
[06:37] <Sugarat> How the heck do I change my IP address in Edgy?
[06:37] <david_> cellofellow: edgy
[06:37] <Sugarat> Kubuntu
[06:37] <foodcoman> Homer: I did, and that failed as well.
[06:37] <Sugarat> I click network settings, - then what ?
[06:37] <Gaz> problem remains of the wireless internet loading automatic at startup (eth1)
[06:37] <david_> sugarat: system settings, network settings, admin mode, select the interface and you should be able to make changes.
[06:37] <Gaz> how do i go about i?
[06:37] <foodcoman> Homer:  Video card was a GeForce 6200 DVI to a Gateway Panel monitor.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Click your nework card and configure
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Sugarat: You may need admin mode
[06:38] <Sugarat> David_: Okay, I clicked admin mode and the window went blank. No interfaces listed.
[06:38] <DaSkreech> It's in thebottom corner
[06:38] <tommy> ya i felt like i had only CLI . I right clicked & opened terminal and restarted with safe mode and reverted all changes i made with Xorg.conf and eveeything was fine back with my old KDE 3.5.2
[06:38] <Homer> foodcoman, probably not your video card then
[06:39] <david_> Sugarat: I don't know what causes that - I've had it before on Dapper.  All that worked for me was ending the session and restarting in a new one.
[06:39] <Sugarat> okay I'll log out of IRC and try again.
[06:39] <Sugarat> Gay
[06:40] <Gaz> how can i connect to the internet automatically on starting up?
[06:40] <Homer> not sure what would cause x11 not to show ui without a video card problem though
[06:40] <foodcoman> Homer: Desktop CD fails to get me video also.  I swapped in an older Gforce and was able to get safe graphics mode from Desktop CD.
[06:40] <Homer> I had a similar problem with Dapper
[06:40] <Homer> the video driver that come with dapper were broke (for my card)
[06:41] <Homer> so it would just boot into black screen
[06:41] <foodcoman> Homer: Exacty what I get now.
[06:41] <Homer> I don't see why safe graphics mode wouldn't work
[06:41] <Homer> cause it just uses VESA generic driver
[06:42] <Homer> maybe it choosing bad resolution or something
[06:42] <foodcoman> Thats what I was hoping also.  At work now, but I will try and pin down more this weeked.
[06:42] <Gaz> does anyone exactly how to automatically connect to the internet upon start up, and how would i go about performing such a task?
[06:42] <Homer> you can check if you can into a cli interface before x11 loads
[06:42] <ubuntu__> hi can someone help my with mput in the ftp client?
[06:43] <Homer> by typing sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:43] <ubuntu__> I am trying to upload a directory
[06:43] <Homer> and it would the resolutions listed
[06:43] <Homer> and drivers too
[06:43] <ubuntu__> but it keeps saying /mnt/home/teflon/: not a plain file.
[06:43] <foodcoman> Homer: I will dig through it from a cli.
[06:44] <teflon> anyone?
[06:44] <teflon> I know it's a stupid question but I haven't really used the shell client
[06:44] <test_> Hello Having sound issues in Edgy, specifically no sound at all.
[06:45] <Gaz> automatic internet connection, can somebody please help me?
[06:45] <foodcoman> Homer: Thanks
[06:45] <david_> Still having trouble with repositories!  Anyone know where there's a list?  I seem to have the gb ones enabled, but can't find firefox or openssh server at the moment.
[06:46] <Gaz> for connecting i sudo iwconfig essid wanadoo.....  manually at the moment, is there a way to this automatically?
[06:46] <Homer> np
[06:46] <test_> Plus why is there a generic kernel now?
[06:47] <munzir> Hi, When I lock my session in kde I can't unlock it though the password is correct what's wrong please?
[06:47] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the installing in oem mode?
[06:48] <MetaMorfoziS> what it does?
[06:48] <munzir> it says unlock failed
[06:48] <MetaMorfoziS> what type of kde you have?
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> version
[06:49] <Dasnipa`> ran into a problem with xmms, after upgrade i get Message: device: default
[06:49] <Dasnipa`> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[06:49] <Dasnipa`>   serial 1521 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0
[06:50] <Gaz> how do i connect to the internet without having to type code everytime i log on the to the computer? is there a text i can edit? and if so, which commands do i have to use in order to suceed in doing this??
[06:50] <test_> Hello Having sound issues in Edgy, specifically no sound at all.
[06:51] <ErikTheRed> ok so i'm installing the driver for my tv tuner card, and i need to place the firmware files somewhere, and i'm not sure where that is
[06:51] <Gaz> i have sudo iwconfig (essid, key) and then sudo dhclient eth1, and this works, now, how can i do this so it's an automatic process??
[06:51] <abattoir> MetaMorfoziS: it is meant for people who want to redistribute kubuntu, people who sell hardware w/ kubuntu, specifically
[06:51] <ubuntu__> My kubuntu system is fucked for the second time...
[06:54] <Alo> Hola
[06:54] <trappist> ubuntu__: language please
[06:54] <Alo> algien me puede decir como configurar apollon
[06:54] <trappist> !pt
[06:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:54] <trappist> hope I got the language right
[06:54] <Alo> es que me pide un sig2dat y no encuentro esos vindulos
[06:54] <franjesus> hola Alo, mejor entra en #ubuntu-es
[06:55] <Pupeno_> I am installing Kubuntu 6.10, I've picked a partition for root (/), one for home and one for swap, yet it complaints: No root filesystem.
[06:55] <trappist> dang.
[06:55] <franjesus> Alo: alli hablan espaol
[06:55] <sc0tt> Alo: ola :)
[06:55] <Alo> i can speak english too
[06:55] <Pupeno_> Any ideas ?
[06:55] <Alo> Hola
[06:55] <Alo> hi
[06:55] <franjesus> oh
[06:55] <franjesus> ok
[06:55] <Alo> Hi scott
[06:55] <test_> Hello Having sound issues in Edgy, specifically no sound at all.
[06:55] <franjesus> here there's more people
[06:55] <sc0tt> what is your native language Alo? :)
[06:55] <Sugarat> Am I being dense? Why wont KDE let me view /?  I only get home and media
[06:55] <soulrider> i just insatlled azureus fromt he repois, but instead of an icon in the tray i see a white square, does anyone know how to fix it ?
[06:56] <soulrider> Sugarat: show hidden files
[06:56] <sc0tt> Sugarat: user might not have access to it
[06:56] <Alo> ny native language is spanish but i can undestand english too
[06:56] <abattoir> !hidden | Sugarat
[06:56] <ubotu> Sugarat: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:56] <franjesus> sc0tt: mine too :-)
[06:56] <sc0tt> franjesus: portuguese?
[06:56] <Pupeno_> No one knows ?
[06:56] <soulrider> !pt
[06:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:56] <franjesus> spanish
[06:56] <sc0tt> ah
[06:56] <soulrider> !es
[06:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:56] <sc0tt> :)
[06:56] <soulrider> cualuiqer cosa me preguntas ok? ;)
[06:57] <franjesus> let's keep it down to English
[06:57] <franjesus> Alo: what is the problem with apollon
[06:57] <Pupeno_> How do I specify, at install time, which is the root partition ?
[06:57] <Sugarat> Is Kubuntu designed for morons? Why would you want to hide the frigging filesystem..?
[06:57] <Alo> my problem is
[06:57] <Alo> :
[06:58] <Alo> idont know what is sig2dat link
[06:58] <Jucato> !hidden
[06:58] <Zerb_Riss> ARG
[06:58] <Zerb_Riss> I can't get WMV playback to work. It plays sound but no video
[06:58] <Zerb_Riss> and don't link me to !wmv, I tried the instructions in the RestrictedFormats page
[06:58] <Alo> hey franjesus
[06:58] <DeJaMo> .mee does not like the idea of hiding sytem filesm that's like bloody windows!
[06:58] <ErikTheRed> anyone know of an easy tv program i could use to test to make sure my tuner is working properly
[06:59] <sc0tt> ErikTheRed: tvtime
[06:59] <sc0tt> Pupeno_: select manual partitioning i think
[06:59] <Pupeno_> sc0tt: already done that.
[06:59] <franjesus> Alo: seems it's specific stuff to fasttrack networks
[06:59] <sc0tt> not so sure then
[07:00] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[07:00] <Alo> mmmmm....
[07:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[07:00] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[07:00] <franjesus> Alo: are you sure you want to use fasttrack? :-D
[07:00] <franjesus> Alo: it's been long since last time i used it
[07:00] <Alo> the probl is i cant get connected
[07:01] <Alo> i mean in apollon
[07:01] <franjesus> Alo: now i moved to amule or ktorrent
[07:01] <franjesus> Alo: i'll give it a ride
[07:01] <RatKing> Zerb_Riss: Download automatix and install AUD-DVD codecs
[07:01] <Alo> i use amule
[07:01] <LjL> !automatix | RatKing, Zerb_Riss
[07:01] <ubotu> RatKing, Zerb_Riss: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[07:02] <Alo> but it doesnt work well at all
[07:02] <Pupeno_> Has anybody succesfully installed Kubuntu 6.10 in manual partition mode ?
[07:02] <franjesus> Alo: did you install giftd??
[07:02] <Alo> im quite kubuntu new user so im learning
[07:03] <Alo> giftd?
[07:03] <Alo> well i have... let me see
[07:03] <Zerb_Riss> YES!
[07:03] <Zerb_Riss> had to switch the MPlayer driver
[07:04] <Alo> hey franjesus, yes i have installed that
[07:04] <Pupeno_> Is reiserfs unsuported ?
[07:04] <trappist> Pupeno_: no
[07:05] <Pupeno_> trappist: the installer doesn't list it among the partition types to make.
[07:05] <trappist> really?
[07:05] <Jucato> Pupeno_: the Desktop CD installer doesn't have reiserfs
[07:05] <Pupeno_> trappist: really.
[07:05] <Jucato> but the ALternate Install does
[07:05] <trappist> I'd have filed a bug and made a stink about that if I'd known it
[07:05] <trappist> I use reiserfs almost exclusively
[07:05] <Jucato> Pupeno_, trappist: the reason is because QtParted, the partitioner in the Desktop CD, doesn't support reiserfs yet
[07:06] <trappist> ic
[07:06] <Pupeno_> Jucato: what do you mean by "don't having reiserfs" ? I have created and mounted reiserfs partitions with the desktop CD.
[07:06] <trappist> well that's a pretty good excuse, I guess
[07:06] <Jucato> Pupeno_: it does? last I checked it doesn't have reiserfs. the alternate install does
[07:07] <Pupeno_> In Kubuntu Dapper one could create the partitions by cfdisk and install, that's no longer possible on Edgy; making a reiserfs install impossible (or damn hard).
[07:07] <j0rgy> hey all.
[07:07] <trappist> Jucato: just visited the qtparted home page, and there's no reason it shouldn't support reiserfs
[07:07] <trappist> Jucato: you just need to have progsreiserfs installed at build time
[07:08] <trappist> http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/faq.en.html
[07:08] <Jucato> trappist: I maybe the version used by Kubuntu doesn't have it yet? I don't know. I'm just repeating what the devs said
[07:08] <trappist> Pupeno_: it would be pretty cool if you'd file a bug on that (if there isn't one already)
[07:09] <j0rgy> i heard a rumour that a kubuntu dvd exists that packages a lot of software (for those of us w/out a great internet connection but require more than the default single-cd install) but i've never been able to verify how true this is.. does anyone know?
[07:09] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: yes it exists, there's even a torrent for it
[07:09] <Jucato> j0rgy: it's true
[07:09] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[07:09] <Pupeno_> trappist: I don't remember my password, but I'll do it latter from home.
[07:09] <j0rgy> wow, i wish i'd known earlier..
[07:09] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: you can also use debmirror and grab repos like universe and burn them to several DVDs
[07:10] <j0rgy> lotusleaf: any place where i can actually find the package listing?
[07:10] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: should be in the same directory as the files
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> abattoir: ohm okay
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> th
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> x
[07:11] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: I used to use and love SuSE, but I switched and stayed with kubuntu =)
[07:11] <orkid__> have there been any updates to the repos since release?
[07:11] <carham> I can't download a video with Ktorrent. Someone can help me?
[07:11] <j0rgy> lotusleaf: eh. dont tempt me :p
[07:11] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: well use what works for you =)
[07:11] <j0rgy> lotusleaf: can i ask u some qns in pvt? or shld i post here.. mainly about equivalents, etc..
[07:11] <BonBonTheJon_> j0rgy: you can look at packages.ubuntu.com
[07:12] <mark_> hello, can anyone help me with a bluetooth problem?
[07:12] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: better to ask in channel so others can help you answer a question if I'm unable to
[07:12] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/
[07:12] <j0rgy> cool.. k first off.. does it have a yast equivalent? i.e a place where i can configure pretty much anything (hardware/software/running daemons,etc)
[07:12] <soulrider> !bugs
[07:12] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:12] <mark_> i have plugged in my bluetooth dongle, it is detected by the kbluetoothd
[07:13] <mark_> but when i type bluetoth:/ only localhost shows up
[07:13] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: there are utilities for that, yes
[07:13] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: though I haven't found a gui program in ubuntu for sax2 like configuration
[07:13] <j0rgy> lotusleaf: not in one central place tho i take it?
[07:13] <cellofellow> anybody know how to enable fame transparency in KXDocker?
[07:13] <cellofellow> fake
[07:14] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: not that I know of, but the programs are there.
[07:14] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: package management is a whole lot better IMO
[07:14] <Pupeno_> Can the alternative-cd install a desktop or only a server ?
[07:14] <lotusleaf> j0rgy: also please /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to chat further about the differences
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Man konqueror is annoyin
[07:15] <BonBonTheJon_> Pupeno_: if you install server, you can just add kubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <cellofellow> I'm in edgy, and have KXDocker 1.1.4a installed from Edgy repo. I had kxdocker 1.1.4a installed in dapper from a third-party repo, and it used a fake transparency, instead of composite. The edgy version isn't wroking.
[07:16] <cellofellow> DaSkreech: what's annoying?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Whydoes it keep switching between having ^[ and ^PgUp navigate tabs?
[07:17] <cellofellow> DaSkreech: I don't see what you meen.
[07:17] <Pupeno_> Kubuntu is ruining my day today :(
[07:17] <weedar> I want to see what HorizScrollDelta does in xorg.conf, but the manpage for xorg.conf doesn't say anything...Does anyone know where I can find a thorough description of the contents of xorg.conf?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> cellofellow: Every few days it switches
[07:17] <mark_> x.org
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Some days ^[ flips through the tabs
[07:17] <cellofellow> DaSkreech: odd
[07:17] <DaSkreech> some days it doesn't
[07:17] <DaSkreech> on the days it doesn't then ^PgUp does
[07:18] <scrandell> does anyone know if it's possible to enable icon zooming in the panel like I've been able to do in kde on other distros?  I don't see the option in kubuntu....
[07:18] <cellofellow> DaSkreech: alt+number switches to individual tabs
[07:18] <DaSkreech> No it doesn't
[07:18] <trappist> scrandell: there are kicker replacements with that feature (and I think there's maybe even that feature in kicker now, somewhere)
[07:18] <DaSkreech> doesn't with kopete either
[07:18] <DaSkreech> which is just as annoying
[07:18] <cellofellow> DaSkreech: oh, you're right
[07:18] <cellofellow> grrrrrr
[07:19] <Dannilion> alt and the underlined letter normally switches to individual tabs
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Yeah but some K apps really act strangely and I can't figure out why
[07:19] <scrandell> trappist: thanks
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Dannilion: Sorry what now?
[07:20] <jaims> hi
[07:20] <jaims> just one question
[07:20] <jaims> are there any repositories for breezy/firefox 2.0?
[07:21] <jaims> not able to find!
[07:21] <trappist> scrandell: I have EnableIconZoom=true in my kickerrc but I guess that doesn't mean what it sounds like
[07:21] <cellofellow> anyone know anything about KXDocker?
[07:21] <LjL> cellofellow: i know the Edgy version doesn't work for me
[07:21] <scrandell> trappist: hrm, so you don't get icon zooms at all despite the option?
[07:21] <Dannilion> DaSkreech: you mentioned tabs in Kopete- that's how I switch between them (same on Konversation)
[07:21] <cellofellow> LjL: to transparency? I just get big blackness.
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Dannilion: The underlined letters are worse than anythign else
[07:22] <trappist> scrandell: nope, but I'm 90% sure I've had it before and just didn't like it
[07:22] <cellofellow> LjL: to= no
[07:22] <DaSkreech> The move everytime you move the window
[07:22] <LjL> cellofellow, i haven't been able to get it to work at all. are you on edgy? did you use the packaged version?
[07:22] <franjesus> piti Alo left
[07:22] <franjesus> pity
[07:22] <Dannilion> DaSkreech: fair enough :P
[07:23] <cellofellow> LjL: I had a different version installed, from a third party. I removed that before upgrading. I installed the new version, and it works but the transparency is non existent.
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Dannilion: I guess you don't have a lot of IM chatter :(
[07:23] <mark_> damnit
[07:23] <blurfle> !edgy | blurfle
[07:23] <ubotu> blurfle: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[07:23] <doppelganger_> anyone have a clue as to why, after upgrading from dapper to edgy, it goes to the kubuntu loading screen (with the little bar that moves across), then goes to a black screen immediately after and just sits there
[07:23] <mark_> this bluetooth problem is getting on my nerves
[07:24] <LjL> cellofellow: well, then i guess you have files left from the other version, which i'm missing. anyway, i think you should have Composite enabled for the latest version of KXDocker to work (transparency and all), do you?
[07:24] <doppelganger_> when i hit ESC, it then shows me text, and i'm at a shell asking me to login
[07:24] <Dannilion> DaSkreech:  only 6 or 7 at a time
[07:24] <mark_> it can detect eh dongle, but can't see any of my devices :(
[07:24] <blurfle> doppelganger_: it does that to me too
[07:24] <doppelganger_> blurfle: blah!  lol
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Dannilion: Yeah me too the point is that they don't keep dropping the conversation and picking it up
[07:24] <cellofellow> LjL: no composite, or true transparency. just trying to use "fake transparency"
[07:24] <doppelganger_> sucks...  i've tried checking my menu.lst to make sure it doesn't say single on it, as per abattoir
[07:24] <doppelganger_> but it doesn't...  and i've replaced the xorg.conf with my old one, still nothing
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Everytime a tab is opened or closed you have to go through and reremember what everyone's desigantion is
[07:25] <jaims> repositories for firefox 2.0?
[07:25] <LjL> cellofellow, i'm not entirely sure, but i believe the current version (1.1.4, or whatever, the older one was 0.x) *requires* composite, while the older one could work with "fake" transparency...
[07:25] <Dannilion> I hardly ever close the tabs
[07:26] <doppelganger_> blurfle: what have you tried to do to troubleshoot it?
[07:26] <scion> hello
[07:26] <cellofellow> LjL: I had 1.1.4a from the xgl.compiz.net or whatever it was repo and it worked with "fake".
[07:26] <blurfle> doppelganger_: walking away ;)
[07:26] <blurfle> doppelganger_: I haven't had much time to mess with it though, but will later today
[07:26] <doppelganger_> blurfle: lol...  i even called in late to work today to try and mess with it
[07:26] <cellofellow> Anybody know if I can use composite stuff with a tnt2 GPU?
[07:26] <scion> i get this error when trying to play a dvd - xine error no plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:/)
[07:27] <scion> can someone help please?
[07:27] <trappist> scrandell: try installing libdvdread3
[07:27] <munzir> Hi, can some one tell me whether /usr/bin/kcheckpass is setuid or not in a fresh installation of edgy?
[07:27] <scrandell> trappist to get iconzooming to work?
[07:27] <trappist> scrandell: and sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[07:27] <trappist> oops
[07:27] <scion> anyone?
[07:28] <trappist> scion: try installing libdvdread3
[07:28] <scrandell> ; )
[07:28] <trappist> scion: and sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[07:28] <scion> trappist: it is installed
[07:28] <scion> i get error no such file or directory
[07:28] <trappist> scion: css too?
[07:28] <cellofellow> anybody know if I can use the composite Xorg extenstion with a RIVA TNT2?
[07:29] <trappist> scion: dapper or edgy?
[07:29] <scion> just installed libdvdcss there and still nothing happening!
[07:29] <scion> dapper
[07:29] <jaims> bye
[07:30] <scion> when i click cdrom0 on desktop it opens an empty folder
[07:30] <trappist> scion: that file might be in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh on dapper
[07:31] <DaSkreech> how can I list files and get the first file in the folder alphabetically?
[07:31] <cellofellow> what does composition in an X server do? and I just want a transparent kxdocker not xgl+compiz/beryl
[07:31] <scion> list files = ls -l
[07:32] <trappist> DaSkreech: files are sorted alphabetically by default
[07:32] <DaSkreech> I know I want back one file
[07:32] <cellofellow> DaSkreech: case sensitive
[07:32] <DaSkreech>  the first one alphabetaically
[07:32] <trappist> DaSkreech: ls | head -1
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Duh! :)
[07:33] <cellofellow> Will a TNT2 video card support compisitioning?
[07:34] <trappist> cellofellow: compositing?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> That's how XGL/AIGLX/compiz/beryl work
[07:35] <cellofellow> trappist: i'm not sure what it is, but it's needed for things like transparent window borders and dockers
[07:35] <cellofellow> DaSkreech: what? I missed something
[07:35] <scion> trappist: cheers, that worked
[07:36] <inteliwasp> well edgy just wants to fight me all the way to the bitter end :P   on boot, it stalls when it is running /etc/rc.local
[07:37] <cellofellow> inteliwasp: as it should
[07:37] <gonssal> hi
[07:37] <BonBonTheJon_> inteliwasp: did you re-install or upgrade
[07:37] <inteliwasp> cellofellow: what do i need to do to make it continue?
[07:37] <BonBonTheJon_> hi gonssal
[07:37] <inteliwasp> upgrade
[07:38] <gonssal> i just upgraded to 6.10 and kaffeine stopped working
[07:38] <BonBonTheJon_> inteliwasp: shoot, thats what I'm doing now
[07:38] <gonssal> console output is ""
[07:38] <cellofellow> inteliwasp: well, something in rc.local must be either taking a long time to run or freezing. Look inside and see.
[07:38] <gonssal> any clues?
[07:39] <trappist> inteliwasp: what's the contents of that file
[07:39] <inteliwasp> cellofellow: nothing in it un commented but exit 0
[07:39] <trappist> inteliwasp: that's what it should be
[07:39] <BonBonTheJon_> gonssal: try running it from konsole to see if there are any errors
[07:39] <gonssal> BonBonTheJon_:  output is "" (nothing)
[07:39] <trappist> inteliwasp: what's the first line (the shebang)
[07:39] <cellofellow> inteliwasp: i dunno what to do.
[07:39] <gonssal> no errors
[07:40] <gonssal> tried reinstalling (purged) and rebooting
[07:40] <cellofellow> !composite
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <trappist> !xgl > cellofellow
[07:41] <inteliwasp> trappist: it's #!/bin/sh -e
[07:41] <trappist> inteliwasp: that's also what it should be
[07:41] <cellofellow> trappist: not xgl, just compositioning
[07:41] <kjelderg> heh, compositioning
[07:42] <cellofellow> kjelderg: you know anything about it? KXDocker is big and black instead of transparent
[07:43] <trappist> inteliwasp: is it executable?
[07:43] <trappist> inteliwasp: do you have a /etc/init.d/rc.local?
[07:43] <inteliwasp> trappist: yes it is 755
[07:43] <kjelderg> cellofellow: did you enable the composite option for your server?
[07:43] <cellofellow> kjelderg: I don't know how, and not sure if a tnt2 video card can handle it.
[07:44] <Homer> so I hear edgy has compositing built in
[07:44] <kjelderg> I think you add Option "Composite" "enable" to the xorg.conf somewhere or other
[07:44] <kjelderg> Section Extensions, I think
[07:44] <Homer> I want pretty jumping windows
[07:45] <cellofellow> kjelderg: that's what I've read. the last time I tried, it just crashed X
[07:45] <kjelderg> pretty jumping windows are somewhat unrelated, Homer
[07:45] <Homer> really
[07:45] <Homer> that's xgl/compiz right?
[07:45] <kjelderg> cellofellow: maybe it doesn't work on a tNt2?  I'm not too sure
[07:45] <cellofellow> kjelderg: I heard that I needed some kind of kernel modules, or edit another file, or something.
[07:45] <Stork> when i try startx i get this: 'Fatal server error: no screens found' and my xorg.conf file can be found here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/4vKEP281.html
[07:46] <Homer> Linux is f**king amazing, even with all the problems I can't use Windows anymore wtihout feeling eww
[07:46] <kjelderg> Homer: well...it's in indirect GL implementation: xgl|aiglx|new nvidia drivers, and a WM that can make stuff happen: compiz|beryl
[07:46] <Homer> it's weird
[07:46] <Stork> Homer, tel me about it
[07:46] <doppelganger_> crap...  i see what the deal is...
[07:47] <doppelganger_> for some reason, my dist-upgrade failed to download anything KDE
[07:47] <kjelderg> Driver "glide" ?!
[07:47] <doppelganger_> didn't install kde, nor kde-core
[07:47] <Stork> every time i use VB at college i'm always thinking about how much easier it would be with linux + java
[07:47] <kjelderg> never heard of such a thing, Stork
[07:47] <cellofellow> doppelganger_: you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[07:47] <Homer> I don't know I think it's apt
[07:47] <Homer> plus amarok and KDE in general
[07:47] <doppelganger_> i'm about to check that, but i did just see something like gnome-desktop-data installed
[07:47] <gnac> anyone else had trouble with *manual partitioning* on 6.10 install???
[07:47] <doppelganger_> so i should get rid of that, i suppose
[07:47] <Homer> KDE/GNOME is so much more customizeable then MS WIndows Explorer
[07:48] <Homer> I think that too has somethin to do with it
[07:48] <cellofellow> gnac: I've heard about that.
[07:48] <Stork> amarok is where it's at
[07:48] <gnac> I read on post about it, but know solution
[07:48] <gnac> *one*
[07:48] <Sugarat> Having just installed Kubuntu I tried compiling a KDE theme and get configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check  ?
[07:49] <kjelderg> Stork: hmm...honestly, the xorg.conf looks alright to me...check the log and see if there's some reason why fglrx isn't working with your card
[07:49] <kjelderg> (the most likely problem)
[07:49] <Stork> kjelderg, okay, will do
[07:49] <gnac> it complained about not selecting a root drive, which I had done
[07:49] <[GuS] > Sugarat, did you installed build-essential_
[07:49] <inteliwasp> trappist: any luck finding out what's wrong?
[07:49] <trappist> Sugarat: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:49] <Stork> kjelderg, it worked fine on dapper, then i upgraded and x refused to work
[07:49] <kjelderg> Stork: did you reinstall your driver?
[07:49] <Sugarat> Okay thanks
[07:49] <kjelderg> may be necessary...
[07:49] <Stork> kjelderg, you mean xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[07:49] <Stork> i think so
[07:49] <kjelderg> I don't use  fglrx so I'm not sure
[07:49] <Stork> lemme try again
[07:49] <kjelderg> yeah
[07:49] <kjelderg> kk
[07:50] <trappist> inteliwasp: did you say whether /etc/init.d/rc.local existed?  if so is there anything obviously wrong with it?  is it possible that it's failing to start the thing *after* rc.local?
[07:50] <Stork> is there any way to use a default (crappy) driver? i don't do anything 3d on my laptop so it's not really a problem
[07:50] <cellofellow> Stork: nv?
[07:50] <Stork> cellofellow, ati
[07:50] <cellofellow> Stork: dunno
[07:51] <Stork> kjelderg, if i try to remove that package it removes everything to do with xserver-xorg
[07:51] <kjelderg> Stork: sure, tell it to use radeon or ati or vesa if you'd like to use a "regular" driver
[07:52] <Stork> hmm, how do i get the ati driver?
[07:52] <kjelderg> the one from ATI, you mean?  (the  fglrx one)
[07:52] <Stork> oh
[07:52] <inteliwasp> trappist: it has an if statement to start /etc/rc.local and a case statement for fail
[07:52] <Stork> i think previously i was using the 'ati' driver and it worked fine
[07:53] <verardi> ciao a tutti
[07:53] <kjelderg> you can use ati if you want instead, probably.  it's part of X so it's already installed for you
[07:53] <verardi> ciao
[07:53] <BonBonTheJon_> !it | verardi
[07:53] <ubotu> verardi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:54] <tsdgeos> BonBonTheJon_: that was rude
[07:54] <tsdgeos> he was only greeting
[07:54] <trappist> inteliwasp: what happens if you sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local start
[07:55] <inteliwasp> trappist: show
[07:56] <inteliwasp> trappist: shows [ok]
[07:57] <trappist> inteliwasp: my guess then is that it's the thing after rc.local that's failing
[07:57] <kjelderg> BonBonTheJon_: aloha
[07:57] <pe> hello
[07:57] <inteliwasp> trappist: anyway to figure out what is next?
[07:59] <BonBonTheJon_> kjelderg: is there a hawaiian channel?
[07:59] <trappist> inteliwasp: probably :) but I wouldn't know how.  do you ever get the [ok]  after rc.local when you boot?
[07:59] <inteliwasp> trappist: this is the forst time booting 6.10
[07:59] <inteliwasp> *first
[08:00] <trappist> inteliwasp: come to think of it, rc.local is supposed to be dead last.  possibly it's failing to start X, or it's starting it but not switching you to vt7
[08:00] <dude_> abottoir: tnx....
[08:00] <Stork> kjelderg, cheers mate, not sure how or why but it worked
[08:02] <Dasnipa`> i have a gtk problem post-upgrade
[08:02] <lolina> hi, I've modified /etc/group (in admin statement, erasing all users in that group) and now i'm not able to become root. Any hint?
[08:02] <HorseHockey> hi guys, apparently my upgrade to edgy in kubuntu broke everything KDE
[08:03] <HorseHockey> when i try to install KDE, it says that things are broken, and it cannot install
[08:03] <inteliwasp> trappist: well... i think i found the sneeky troll that broke my computer...
[08:03] <HorseHockey> how can i tell what exactly is messed up with it?
[08:03] <inteliwasp> trappist: the fglrx drivers i was useing were removed
[08:03] <soulrider> i cant boon into windows
[08:03] <soulrider> i get a "kernel must bea ctive" error when i select it int he grub
[08:03] <cellofellow> soulrider: sounds like a boon to you?
[08:03] <cellofellow> !
[08:04] <soulrider> boot*
[08:05] <inteliwasp> trappist: so... what is the comand to reconfigure X?
[08:05] <soulrider> dpkg-reconfigure xorg ?
[08:05] <inteliwasp> trappist: or better yet, put it to edgy defult
[08:05] <kjelderg> aseigo: howdy :)
[08:05] <aseigo> kjelderg: hey =)
[08:06] <erik_a> My Netgear WG511 WLAN card is intialized in Edgy, networks are found... but I cant connect! It was working in dapper...
[08:06] <erik_a> tried setting the wlan settings in both control panel network module, and in the separate wifi program.. no success
[08:07] <erik_a> rebooted several times, tried all options
[08:07] <yacoob> hm
[08:07] <yacoob> is there a way to automatically update filterset.g for konqueror?
[08:09] <sheft> Helllo, how do I install skype for kubuntu?
[08:09] <grothesk_> sheft: apt-get install skype
[08:10] <loz> hi everyone, bon apetit for those eating
[08:10] <Frumpy> hi, is there a 6.10 server release ?
[08:10] <grothesk_> But you'll need the right repo in your sources.list, sheft
[08:11] <jerp> yes!!
[08:11] <Frumpy> hi, is there a 6.10 server release ?
[08:11] <dude_> abottoir: are you busy?
[08:11] <jerp> <---------------- we be kickin'
[08:11] <loz> does anybody have any insight on how to get the LAN working on the latest KUBUNTU 6.10?
[08:12] <jerp> we're living like white guys :)
[08:12] <Frumpy> i found it
[08:12] <loz> i ve tried all the wifi  adeptsoftwore with
[08:12] <loz> but non work
[08:12] <BonBonTheJon_> loz: LAN or WLAN
[08:12] <loz> wlan
[08:12] <loz> sorry
[08:13] <BonBonTheJon_> loz: what have you tried
[08:13] <loz> i ve tried kiwi, and wifi radar
[08:13] <jerp> hmm.... maybe I can put the xfce on the k8 laptop
[08:13] <sheft> grothesk_: which repo is it that i need?
[08:13] <Napa> hi!
[08:14] <Napa> can anyone please help me installing jEdit ?
[08:14] <jerp> so what do I run first? adept? or synaptic?
[08:14] <loz> got to go
[08:14] <kjelderg> sheft: probably universe or multiverse
[08:14] <grothesk_> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free  shaft
[08:15] <kjelderg> what he said, then
[08:15] <kjelderg> heh...
[08:15] <jerp> deth to redmon
[08:15] <Napa> !jedit
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <kjelderg> no death to anyone!
[08:16] <jerp> well, just in a particular vernacular, if I may.
[08:16] <kjelderg> you may
[08:16] <kjelderg> :)
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> Napa: looks like you add a couple of lines to your sources.list then pray ---> http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download
[08:17] <jerp> thanks :)
[08:17] <jerp> the mystery?
[08:17] <Napa> TheGateKeeper: I've tried that but I only get access denied when I'm trying to save the file
[08:18] <jerp> Motorola's SB-5120 cable modem can't be hooked to usb
[08:18] <jerp> so I tricked it
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> Napa: had a look at this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1651675
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> Napa: well I am not surprised it bitched at you
[08:19] <jerp> I have a usb ethernet gizmo that lets me hook to usb while using the cat5 to the modem.
[08:19] <Napa> so I should try to find jEdit.jar ?
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> Napa: I would, seems like it would be a lot less agro
[08:20] <skript> dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy ended up in lots of Error messages... now I can't boot into kubuntu, looks like I'm gonna have to reinstall from cd :(
[08:20] <slangkamp> Hi
[08:21] <jerp> I went to the moto site and found the doc that noted Linux can only links through the ethernet port on 5120
[08:21] <fdoving> skript: what errors do you get? do you end up at the commandline?
[08:22] <skript> fdoving: well.. I ended up at commandline (that's where I started from) + errors were concerning python2.4
[08:22] <slangkamp> I have a problem setting up my kde4 environment on edgy I have installed build-essential but cmake gives me an CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER_FULLPATH-NOTFOUND error
[08:22] <fdoving> skript: can you connect to the internet from the commandline?
[08:23] <tsdgeos> slangkamp: probably don't have g++ installed
[08:23] <skript> fdoving:heh... I rushed a bit and restarted my system... bad idea! ;) now I can't boot so I guess it's my own fault (grrr) ;)
[08:23] <fdoving> skript: can't boot, with what error message?
[08:24] <skript> fdoving:when I boot, the root file systems gets mounted up and then the screen switches from vga graphics to text mode with blinking cursor... thats when it stops indefinitly...
[08:24] <RawSewage> !beryl
[08:24] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[08:24] <slangkamp> tsdgeos: g++ is installed
[08:24] <jerp> well I've been on net with Ubuntu for all of 15 mins ........... time to see about d/l'n edgy
[08:24] <sheft> Dynamic binary tar.bz2
[08:24] <sheft> Krver Qt 3.2
[08:24] <sheft> Static binary tar.bz2 med kompilerat Qt 3.2
[08:24] <sheft> Rekommenderas ej. Anvnd endast om ovanstende inte fungerar.
[08:25] <sheft> whats the diffrence between static and dynamic binary?  When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[08:27] <cellofellow> inteliwasp: mp3blaster
[08:30] <j0rgy_> anyone installed kubuntu on an acer laptop ?
[08:30] <jerp> is there a switch to hit to see if you need updates?
[08:32] <Shadow_mil> jerp: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:34] <RawSewage> whats the command to unlock your resources list
[08:34] <RawSewage> sudo dpkg something
[08:34] <RawSewage> sudo dpkg --configure -a  ??
[08:34] <Shadow_mil> RawSewage: what message do you have?
[08:35] <RawSewage> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:35] <t0taln00b> hi all
[08:35] <Shadow_mil> RawSewage: you have something else running that's using it, like adept
[08:35] <RawSewage> no
[08:35] <RawSewage> Im experienced
[08:35] <RawSewage> I ran sudo apt-get update , but it hung up on a URL
[08:35] <RawSewage> so I exited console
[08:35] <Shadow_mil> ok if you are you should know
[08:35] <RawSewage> so it's still stuck there
[08:35] <jerp> thanks :)
[08:36] <Shadow_mil> RawSewage: sudo killall apt-get
[08:36] <RawSewage> ty
[08:36] <RawSewage> I meant I wasnt a total newbie
[08:36] <RawSewage> so you wouldnt have to waste time with the usual  'try restrating your router' type things
[08:36] <RawSewage> Im still a Linux idiot
[08:37] <jerp> two, what's skype?
[08:37] <Shadow_mil> jerp: I not 100%, but I think it has something to do with VoIP
[08:37] <Shadow_mil> jerp: google it
[08:37] <jerp> ok
[08:38] <jharrisonwk> any issues upgrading from dapper to edgy?
[08:38] <Shadow_mil> jharrisonwk: I did... but I install it when it was in beta
[08:39] <jharrisonwk> hhmmm
[08:39] <Shadow_mil> jharrisonwk: it should be fine now
[08:39] <Napa> I've downloaded jedit42install.jar but when I try ./jedit42install.jar  I get access denied
[08:39] <fdoving> jharrisonwk: i suggest https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[08:39] <jerp> oh yeah, and that's the net thing that introduced the wifi net phones
[08:39] <jharrisonwk> fdoving: thanks
[08:39] <jerp> hahahah, wild
[08:40] <fdoving> jharrisonwk: did you install beryl and xgl stuff from 3rd party repos?
[08:40] <Shadow_mil> Napa: chmod 755 jedit<tab>
[08:40] <HorseHockey> if i'm using kubuntu, does anything gnome need to be installed for Beryl to work properly?
[08:40] <HorseHockey> it used to be that way, but now with Edgy i doubt it
[08:40] <HorseHockey> or am wondering, rather
[08:40] <Napa> bash: ./jedit42install.jar: cannot execute binary file
[08:40] <Napa> :(
[08:41] <cy08> how to mount a folder on freebsd whith kubuntu ?
[08:41] <fdoving> HorseHockey: i think you need gnome stuff.. not that i have any clue though. if you used to need. you probabl still need it.
[08:41] <HorseHockey> ok, i'll ask in #beryl then
[08:41] <Shadow_mil> Napa: try   jar <file>
[08:41] <HorseHockey> just to be sure, thanks fdoving
[08:41] <yacoob> hm
[08:41] <fdoving> HorseHockey: that is probably a good idea.
[08:42] <Shadow_mil> Napa: grr
[08:42] <yacoob> flashplugin in firefox has no sound. What gives? :)
[08:42] <ErikTheRed> does anyone have an idea as to why my phpmyadmin page won't load? it keeps asking me to download the page instead of displaying it?
[08:42] <ErikTheRed> As a note i'm trying to install mythtv
[08:42] <cy08> i have my htdocs on my freebsd webserver and now i want to mount them with kubunu in my local folder /docs/www ist that possible ?
[08:42] <yacoob> ErikTheRed, that's the sign of misconfigured apache
[08:42] <Napa> grr?
[08:42] <Shadow_mil> Napa: gij -jar <file>
[08:42] <yacoob> ErikTheRed, filetypes
[08:42] <Shadow_mil> their, that should work
[08:43] <ErikTheRed> vacoob, how do i go about fixing that?
[08:43] <Sidebar> can anyone tell me what they think of my new linux desktop? (i've only had linux installed for 2 days so don't make fun of it too much...)
[08:44] <jerp> is there a way to bookmark the update command in konsole or another termial?
[08:44] <Shadow_mil> Sidebar: ?
[08:44] <Sidebar> I took a screenshot of it
[08:44] <Napa> bash: ./jedit42install.jar: cannot execute binary file
[08:44] <Napa> bash: gij: command not found
[08:45] <Shadow_mil> jerp: ... you can make a bash file to do it
[08:45] <Shadow_mil> Napa: install Java
[08:45] <jerp> I don't know how to do that yet
[08:45] <Napa> I have installed java
[08:45] <jerp> I'll have to look it up I think
[08:45] <Shadow_mil> jerp: ok type:      nano ~/update
[08:46] <jerp> oh, cool
[08:46] <jerp> ok
[08:46] <Shadow_mil> it will open a screen, type:      #!/bin/bash on the first line
[08:46] <j0rgy> is there a graphical application to start/stop ppoe connections?
[08:46] <jerp> hit enter?
[08:46] <Shadow_mil> then on the next line add this:     sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade;
[08:46] <jerp> ok
[08:46] <Shadow_mil> then hit ctrl + x, and save it
[08:47] <jerp> yeah, I got that "new file"
[08:47] <Napa> but i need to install jedit
[08:47] <jerp> can I cut and paste into it?
[08:47] <Shadow_mil> jerp: replace that with something like update
[08:47] <Shadow_mil> jerp: yes, though you have to move the cursor
[08:47] <jerp> ok
[08:48] <Digital_Pioneer> Hey, I've got an HP OfficeJet K80, and I need to know how to use it! :)
[08:48] <Shadow_mil> jerp: once you have it saved as update, tell me
[08:48] <Digital_Pioneer> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 03f0:0711 Hewlett-Packard
[08:48] <otaku-san> I hear that edgy has a faster shutdown...anyone using it experience this?
[08:48] <Napa> please tell me how to be able to edit /etc/apt/source.list
[08:49] <Digital_Pioneer> otaku-san: I just upgraded to edgy and my system fried.
[08:49] <Napa> I can't even find it in the terminal windows
[08:49] <reldruh> Napa: go to the konsole
[08:49] <Shadow_mil> Napa: sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list
[08:49] <otaku-san> Digital_Pioneer: ohhh that hurts...how did you upgrade?
[08:49] <Digital_Pioneer> Napa: Actually, it's soures.list. ;)
[08:49] <reldruh> Napa: or if you want a gui you can do sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:49] <Digital_Pioneer> otaku-san: Modded the /etc/apt/sources.list LOL
[08:50] <Napa> but shall sources.list be a blank txt file?
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> !kdesu
[08:50] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:50] <Digital_Pioneer> Napa: No!
[08:50] <jerp> how do I save it?
[08:50] <Digital_Pioneer> Napa: Can't be, or you can't install anything. ;)
[08:50] <otaku-san> Digital_Pioneer: ya...you changed any dappers to edgy and so forth right?  Hmmm I was going to upgrade that way...
[08:50] <Napa> ah ok .. when I did kate ... it seems like a textfile with loads of text
[08:50] <Digital_Pioneer> otaku-san: Well, my X.org doesn't work anymore, and Ndiswrapper isn't working so I can't get online to reinstall it.
[08:51] <Digital_Pioneer> I'm fried.
[08:51] <j0rgy> does anyone have any experience with ppoe connections and kubuntu ?
[08:51] <reldruh> Napa: Do some of hte lines start with deb http://whatever?
[08:51] <Digital_Pioneer> Napa: I enjoy this: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:51] <jerp> shadow, how do I save that file?
[08:51] <otaku-san> Digital_Pioneer: I heard something about this....hold on and let me find it
[08:51] <Shadow_mil> jerp: ctrl + x
[08:51] <Shadow_mil> jerp it will ask you if you want to save
[08:51] <j0rgy> ... guess not.
[08:52] <jerp> shadow, ok, it's done
[08:52] <Digital_Pioneer> I really need to get this printer going....
[08:52] <reldruh> does anybody know why edgy recognizes my wireless card but won't let me enable it?
[08:54] <jerp> yep :)
[08:54] <shadowhywind> so kubuntu doesn't reconginze my midi device, anyway suggestions?
[08:55] <jerp> Shadow_mil: so I go /update and that file responds?
[08:55] <Shadow_mil> jerp: ./update
[08:55] <Shadow_mil> though ~/update would work from anywhere
[08:55] <jerp> ahhh, dot slash update
[08:56] <Shadow_mil> jerp: it work?
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> shadowhywind: there is a channel for just music related stuff (see the ubuntu-studio website) I don't remember what it is called
[08:56] <Shadow_mil> jerp: why?
[08:56] <jerp> I already ran it
[08:56] <Shadow_mil> why reboot it?
[08:56] <jerp> I types it in first before I asked for the file
[08:57] <jerp> I  don't ahve to reboot?
[08:57] <jerp> have
[08:57] <otaku-san> Digital_Pioneer: I can't find it...I do know the guy created a separate part with all his personal stuff and did a total clean install...it worked fine except his GRUB, and Ndiswrapper....Xorg too I think were all borked...
[08:57] <Shadow_mil> nope
[08:57] <paR5k> anybody speak Swedish here?  I need help but my Kubuntu is in Swedish so you probably wouldn't understand it... :P
[08:57] <shadowhywind> will look into that thanks
[08:57] <Shadow_mil> jerp: unless you got something like a kernel update
[08:57] <jerp> typed
[08:57] <raul12> hi
[08:57] <raul12> i need help
[08:57] <raul12> how to install gtk+ 2.0.6
[08:57] <paR5k> or can I change the language real quick somehow?
[08:58] <otaku-san> Digital_Pioneer: He had to go in on his live cd and fix everything....
[08:58] <Shadow_mil> raul12: use a package manger
[08:58] <h3sp4wn> paR5k: force the locale to C (to get the error message)
[08:58] <paR5k> huh?
[08:58] <raul12> how to install gtk+ 2.0.6
[08:59] <otaku-san> !sw
[08:59] <Digital_Pioneer> otaku-san: Lucky guy. Not so easy for me.
[08:59] <paR5k> I just need help with installing FrostWire on my Kubuntu and it's apparently having some problems with the dpkg
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <reldruh> raul12: open up adept
[08:59] <reldruh> it's in the k-menu
[08:59] <reldruh> in the system section, I believe
[08:59] <otaku-san> hmmm whats the abbreviation for Swedish
[08:59] <h3sp4wn> paR5k: LANG=C; apt-get -f install (or whatever)
[08:59] <Shadow_mil> sw?
[09:00] <raul12> did
[09:00] <otaku-san> Digital_Pioneer: do you have a live cd?  Maybe try that
[09:00] <paR5k> that might be it
[09:00] <reldruh> raul12: in the search box at the top make sure it's only matching the package name and type in the box gtk+
[09:00] <raul12> i did it too
[09:00] <Digital_Pioneer> otaku-san: All it would do is completely reinstall. I think it would format the partition.
[09:00] <raul12> but cant not find any gtk + 2.0.6
[09:00] <larson9999> man, am i sick
[09:00] <reldruh> raul12: then check if one of those packages in the list are what you need
[09:00] <otaku-san> paR5k: I tried to get the Swedish channel of Kubuntu for you...but sw isn't it
[09:00] <otaku-san> !sd
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <paR5k> se might be it
[09:01] <paR5k> SE
[09:01] <trappist> oocalc just truncated a 50k line spreadsheet to 0 bytes
[09:01] <trappist> fun
[09:01] <otaku-san> !se
[09:01] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[09:01] <otaku-san> ah!
[09:01] <paR5k> ok skjysst
[09:01] <reldruh> raul12: I only get two on my computer. Depending on which repositories you have enabled you might get more or less
[09:01] <paR5k> thanks
[09:01] <otaku-san> no prob
[09:01] <paR5k> ill make sure to talk to you ppl if they cant help me though :P
[09:01] <raul12> any good repositories  link i can get ??
[09:02] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[09:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:02] <reldruh> raul12: go to View > Manage Repositories
[09:02] <raul12> i want to add Repositories
[09:02] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, fine, I fixed it myself. >:(
[09:02] <raul12> i need lik
[09:02] <raul12> ] link
[09:02] <bluch> hi
[09:03] <otaku-san> ok
[09:03] <bluch> i have 10 gb of unusefull soft on my laptop and i don't know what, because this is the first time kubuntu runs well with a few problems, what is the best thing to do?
[09:03] <otaku-san> larson9999: You have a cold?  I had one a few days back
[09:03] <fdoving> !repos > raul12
[09:04] <otaku-san> larson9999: howdy!  By the way
[09:04] <Dr_willis> bluch,  huh?
[09:04] <larson9999> otaku-san: stomach cramps and vomiting like mad
[09:04] <reldruh> raul12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:04] <otaku-san> !repos | raul12
[09:04] <ubotu> raul12: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:04] <bluch> well i had kubuntu installed a few times before
[09:04] <larson9999> bluch: i'd pack it up and send it to me
[09:04] <raul12> k
[09:05] <otaku-san> fdoving: DaSkreech had the same prob ;p
[09:05] <jerp> shadow, I got 382 updates with that hit for a first time; how much space would that involve to download them all?
[09:05] <larson9999> otaku-san: i think i'm pregnant
[09:05] <DaSkreech> I do?
[09:05] <roycebarber> I'm completely new to Linux... My issue is windows move slowly when I move them. I have a fast computer, 3ghz with a gig of ram. Things didnt move this slow on the previous Ubuntu version.
[09:05] <bluch> i think i have to much of the same
[09:05] <reldruh> does anybody know why my wireless card is recognized but can't be enabled?
[09:05] <Dr_willis> roycebarber,  you install the video card drivers for your card yet?
[09:05] <roycebarber> well no...
[09:05] <otaku-san> larson9999: I do hope your a woman then!  Poor soul
[09:05] <bluch> nvm
[09:05] <Dr_willis> bluch,  if the parttions got formated between installs.. then nothing got left behind.
[09:06] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: ya, you did! rotfl
[09:06] <raul12> can any 1 suggest me a good anti virus
[09:06] <larson9999> otaku-san: nope but i think i now have the slightest idea what they much go through
[09:06] <Dr_willis> raul12,  to scan for what kind of viruses? :P theres tools under linux that scann your  windows files...
[09:06] <otaku-san> larson9999: no kidding...I hate upchucking...nasty business
[09:07] <roycebarber> Is an antivirus on Ubuntu necessary?
[09:07] <raul12> how ?
[09:07] <Dr_willis> roycebarber,  totally NOT needed
[09:07] <jerp> nevermind; I spoke before I saw the notation the gui provides
[09:07] <larson9999> roycebarber: nope
[09:07] <Dr_willis> all the antivirus sofrware for linux ive seen are for scanning windows files. :)
[09:07] <raul12> trojen,spyware,malewaare etc...
[09:07] <larson9999> unless you want to scan windows files
[09:07] <raul12>  :o
[09:07] <Dr_willis> raul12,  not really a problem under linux
[09:07] <Napa> what is this message? "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)"
[09:07] <jerp> roycebarber: they put "clam" on the live disc distro
[09:07] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: hehehe that's a crackup
[09:08] <paR5k> Ok guys, talking in #bubuntu-se is like talking to my self in Notepad.  I got the thingy in english so this is what it says:
[09:08] <paR5k> pelle@ubuntu:~$ LANG=C sudo dpkg -i /home/pelle/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[09:08] <paR5k> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[09:08] <paR5k> pelle@ubuntu:~$
[09:08] <reldruh> napa, you have to do whatever you're trying to do as root
[09:08] <Dr_willis> otaku-san,  and these windows users at work have a hard time beliving it...
[09:08] <paR5k> I meant #kubuntu-se :P
[09:08] <reldruh> Napa: that's what that means. If you're running something on the terminal, put a sudo in front of it and then you should be fine
[09:08] <raul12> one more thing
[09:08] <Napa> okey
[09:09] <Napa> thanx
[09:09] <reldruh> Napa: No problem :-)
[09:09] <Napa> was afraid I had broken something ;)
[09:09] <raul12> how do i uninstall software which i installed from scource code  :p
[09:09] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: .....strange people.  There just lost...just shake your head and feel sorry for em' ;)
[09:09] <reldruh> Napa: permission denied just means that something needs to be run as root. Sudo makes you run the command as root
[09:09] <otaku-san> *they're
[09:09] <fdoving> raul12: 'make uninstall' in the source directory.
[09:10] <raul12> k
[09:10] <larson9999> reldruh: well, that's the most common thing it means but it could also mean other things.
[09:11] <otaku-san> paR5k: your trying to install Frostwire?
[09:11] <paR5k> yeah
[09:11] <reldruh> larson9999: true, but that's what it's always meant for me and for now, that was what he needed to know. Later he can learn more, but that's a good starting point
[09:12] <milan> free
[09:12] <cojynakata> I would like to know if the latest version of kubuntu supports ntfs writing
[09:13] <Dr_willis> cojynakata,  i proberly can.. but i dont think its enabled by default
[09:13] <Dr_willis> I would HOPE they dont enable it by default
[09:13] <cojynakata> why?
[09:14] <otaku-san> paR5k: there is something with Frostwire and Ubuntu....it's just a pain to install....ok get Automatix it is a graphical installer of useful mostly multimedia stuff...Frostwire is on it...I found this is the only way to easily install it
[09:14] <Dr_willis> touch: cannot touch `foo': Read-only file system
[09:14] <RawSewage> cojynakata, Ive always been able to write to Windows computers using Samba
[09:14] <Dr_willis> cojynakata,  trashing the filesystem is a bad thing
[09:14] <larson9999> reldruh: yeah but too many newbies take that stuff literal.  better to state it means you don't have the proper permissions to do what you're trying to do and most likely it means you need to run as sudo.  more than once i've seen someone wipe out files he didn't mean to becuase he was starting in the wrong dir and thought the permissions error always meant he need to run as sudo.
[09:14] <paR5k> ok, I'll try that, thanks otaku-san
[09:14] <Dr_willis> !frostwire
[09:14] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:15] <otaku-san> paR5k: no prob man
[09:15] <reldruh> larson9999: all right, I'll do that from now on. Thanks :-)
[09:15] <paR5k> one last question though :P
[09:15] <paR5k> how do I get that?
[09:15] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: why did you do that? :p
[09:15] <raul12> well my x mule wont connect  :'(
[09:15] <otaku-san> paR5k: Oh hold on
[09:15] <otaku-san> !automatix
[09:15] <raul12> it just hang
[09:15] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[09:15] <paR5k> kk
[09:15] <jerp> question: is there a need for so many foreign language files on ones disc (as in; are they translating computer OS particulars or do they translate websites?)
[09:16] <otaku-san> paR5k: no don't go there...let me get you a link
[09:16] <bobbyyu> Is the final version of Edgy out yet?
[09:16] <paR5k> allright thanks :)
[09:16] <RawSewage> yes
[09:16] <raul12> well my x mule wont connect
[09:16] <RawSewage> Edgy was released yesterday
[09:16] <bobbyyu> How do I upgrade to it?
[09:16] <Napa> hmm I need to install the dpkg-dev package .. But I get a error message in adept :(
[09:17] <Napa> It says the request would destroy the packages
[09:17] <fdoving> bbt: edgy? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[09:17] <Napa> is it possible to do it manually ?
[09:17] <otaku-san> paR5k: here you are http://www.getautomatix.com/
[09:17] <erik_a> My Netgear WG511 WLAN card is intialized in Edgy, networks are found... but I cant connect! It was working in dapper...
[09:17] <erik_a> tried setting the wlan settings in both control panel network module, and in the separate wifi program.. no success
[09:17] <paR5k> thanks man
[09:18] <otaku-san> paR5k: good luck...it has some good codecs for playing DVDs also
[09:18] <Dr_willis> frostwire
[09:18] <Dr_willis> runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[09:18] <Dr_willis> lol
[09:19] <raul12> not many files on frontware
[09:19] <raul12> frostware
[09:19] <Dr_willis> frostwire and edgy dont seem to mixx
[09:19] <paR5k> great I could use that :D
[09:19] <Goliath23> hi
[09:20] <Goliath23> does anyone know how to enable video preview for icons in konqueror? it seems to be disabled and disregards konquerors settings...
[09:20] <fdoving> Dr_willis: what does 'head -n1 runFrost.sh' say? (you'll have to find runFrost.sh first.)
[09:20] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: is that another broken app on edge?
[09:20] <Goliath23> but I have preview in the files tooltips.. strange!
[09:20] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  i downloaded the frostwire deb package..
[09:21] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: ohhh
[09:21] <Dr_willis> updateing the database for locate to find the runFrostwire.sh :)
[09:22] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: its because in edgy /bin/sh is dash not bash
[09:22] <erik_a> do you think my WLAN card will work if I try Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu=
[09:22] <erik_a> ?
[09:22] <BennyBoi69> Hay, How do I install the mp3 / wma decoders for the media player?
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: you can either but bash back as /bin/sh or fix the script (dpkg-reconfigure -plow dash will allow the former but I would do the later)
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> erik_a: no
[09:23] <erik_a> h3sp4wn have you heard of the wlan problems in edgy?
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> erik_a: what chipset ?
[09:23] <erik_a> ..I've seen on the forums that I'm not alone
[09:23] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/sh
[09:24] <erik_a> WG511
[09:24] <erik_a> Netgear
[09:24] <Dr_willis> ahhh
[09:24] <erik_a> it was working in dapper
[09:24] <Dr_willis> dash :) ok.. that makes sence now.
[09:24] <roycebarber> ATI and AMD are the same company now...  :P heh heh
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> erik_a: (use zcat to view it)
[09:25] <erik_a> thanx h3sp4wn will try...
[09:25] <Dr_willis> However, since our policy requires all shell scripts  using /bin/sh to be POSIX compliant, any shell that conforms to POSIX can serve as /bin/sh.
[09:25] <behemoth> comment conect kopet
[09:25] <BennyBoi69> Hay, How do I install the mp3 / wma decoders for the media player?
[09:25] <Dr_willis> So only the ubuntu scripts are guarented to work with dash. :)
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: exactly dash is posix compatible its frostwires fault
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: If you need bashism's you should specify bash
[09:26] <Dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  frostwire it some how Obligated be Posix? :P
[09:26] <Dr_willis> I can see this becoming a next top 10 Faq.
[09:27] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: /bin/sh should be considered to be the bourne shell (or something 100% compatible with it)
[09:27] <Dr_willis>  here we go - a new factoid in my library
[09:27] <jerp> educate me_ what's the need for so many foreign language files on my hd?
[09:28] <jerp> pardon, foriegn
[09:28] <Dr_willis> Scripts not working right? Firewire/Frostwire --> try  dpkg-reconfigure -plow dash to set up BASH as your default 'sh' shell.
[09:28] <BennyBoi69> Anyone going to help me?
[09:28] <jerp> no, maybe I ahd it right the first time
[09:28] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[09:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:28] <roycebarber> Dr willis your library must be thousands of volumes by now. there are so many technical aspects to linux :)
[09:28] <BennyBoi69> cheers
[09:29] <Dr_willis> BennyBoi69,  the Kubuntu FAQ has several things on mp3 also
[09:29] <BennyBoi69> oki
[09:29] <BennyBoi69> ty
[09:30] <roycebarber> How strange... I click frostwire and it doesnt open. it just ignores me.
[09:32] <cps1966> roycebarber:  drag exe.file in terminal and see what it says
[09:33] <cellofellow> I have xorg compositioning transparency working. It'd be great if it wasn't so slow.
[09:34] <roycebarber> CPS1966 terminal just says Denied..
[09:34] <cps1966> dddo it as sudo
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i grab a cd under kubuntu edgy?
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> ihave no lame
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> and in repos it isn'T there
[09:34] <paR5k> hey guys, there was an error...[again...*sigh*]
[09:34] <paR5k> pelle@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install automatix2
[09:34] <paR5k> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:34] <paR5k> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> MetaMorfoziS: add multiverse maybe
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i have
[09:35] <MetaMorfoziS> that
[09:35] <LjL> !automatix | paR5k
[09:35] <ubotu> paR5k: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[09:35] <LjL> anyway, close Adept
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste > paR5k
[09:35] <MetaMorfoziS> paR5k: try tor ead what it said...
[09:35] <erik_a> h3sp4wn: thanks for your help, but I really didn't understand much of that file... I'm not very good in such things being just a desktop end-user... do you think I'm out of luck on this one?
[09:35] <roycebarber> My ATI Video Driver is also ignoring me....
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> MetaMorfoziS: what do you mean "grab a CD"
[09:36] <roycebarber> I would like to install video driver. its ignoring me.
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !ati > roycebarber
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe that will help
[09:36] <poopybutt> does yakuake come installed on 6.10?
[09:36] <reldruh> roycebarber: what kind of card do you have? Nvidia? ATI?
[09:36] <roycebarber> ATI Radeon x700pro pci express
[09:37] <raul12> i have installed frostware
[09:37] <cellofellow> Anybody know how to make kxdocker work as a taskbar/manager thing? Window icons.
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> poopybutt: not by default
[09:37] <raul12>  :)
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> bet you can install it
[09:37] <reldruh> roycebarber: you don't happen to know off the top of your head if that's suported by the ati driver, do you?
[09:37] <poopybutt> Admiral_Chicago: yakuake is awesome
[09:37] <raul12> do netbeans need any dependiencies
[09:37] <roycebarber> The ATI site doestn say much. It just says LINUX : )
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> poopybutt: i mean you can install it s/bet/but
[09:38] <roycebarber> I'm not sure if the driver that is ignoring me is even for ubuntu..or my card...
[09:38] <poopybutt> Admiral_Chicago: yeah, i can just apt-get that right?
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> roycebarber: did you try the link i sent to you
[09:38] <RawSewage> !beryl
[09:38] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> poopybutt: yes
[09:38] <Napa> what is gksudo in kubunto?
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Napa: kdesu
[09:38] <roycebarber> Admiralchicago... yes i clicked it, QUANTRA program came up and displayed some kind of code... but i cant read it.
[09:39] <TheGateKeeper> Napa: kdesu
[09:39] <reldruh> roycebarber: OK, it looks like your card is supported (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI)
[09:39] <reldruh> roycebarber: that page has some good install instructions
[09:39] <erik_a> should I wait for WLAN to be fixed in edgy (ie will it be fixed soon?), or should I run another dist for now?
[09:39] <Napa> and gedit is kate ?
[09:39] <Dr_willis> !edit
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> correct
[09:40] <roycebarber> QUANTA eats up the shortcut links you guys are sending me........ Can I copy/paste the link into firefox?
[09:40] <fa> Hello everyone. I'm getting a "Could not start kdestartupconfig. Check your installation". Did anyone ever had that problem?
[09:40] <MetaMorfoziS> Admiral_Chicago: i want to save the musics from an audiocd
[09:40] <reldruh> roycebarber: yes
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> erik_a: If you can see the network the chances are that the drivers are working ok (just the gui stuff may not be working right)
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> MetaMorfoziS: ah you want to rip the music
[09:40] <MetaMorfoziS> oh yes
[09:40] <poopybutt> when i install a program, sometimes it doesnt update the menus
[09:41] <poopybutt> how do i update the menus
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> MetaMorfoziS: give me a second
[09:41] <htraki> How Can I update from dapper 2 edgy without reinstall?
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[09:41] <Napa> hmm .. I tried to get LinuxDc++ to work but it seems like it is impossible :(
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> htraki: kdesu "update-manager -c -d" in the terminal
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> kde have an option if you put an audio cd to the rom you can select the save musics from cd
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> but it needs lame
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> that i don't have
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> so if you tell me how can i get lame , evrything goes work...
[09:42] <reldruh> MetaMorfoziS: have you tried going to audiocd:/ in konqueror and dragging whichever folder you want onto your hard drive?
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> MetaMorfoziS: Why not use ogg ?
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> MetaMorfoziS: ah open up Adept or the command line
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> MetaMorfoziS: Sounds better (and if you have the cd anyway)
[09:42] <htraki> Invalid option: -d
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> because imho my mp3 player isn't supports that
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> htraki: hold on
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> i tryed that
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> but it said "stalled" during the copy
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> and looks stops doing anything
[09:44] <reldruh> can anybody recommend a good portable music player that supports ogg? Or a good way to get ogg support onto an ipod?
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> htraki: no -d after all
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> htraki: kdesu "update-manager -c" in the terminal
[09:45] <cps1966> !repositories
[09:45] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> reldruh: iriver stuff does (some samsung flash players)
[09:45] <[GuS] > Hi guys... im having a problem after upgraded to Edgy... i have at my work 20 workstations.. all with edgy now... and not all seems to have this problem, is about xkb layout: http://www.lnxteam.org/downloads/pub/Kubuntu/xkb-layout.png
[09:45] <cps1966> !mp3
[09:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:45] <[GuS] > look at there... all layout "flags" ismissing
[09:45] <[GuS] > and my keyboard was configured to Genius KB-21e, spanish
[09:45] <htraki> Im think I dont have the update-manager installed, I have to look after
[09:45] <[GuS] > now i have simple english keyboard configuration.. >S
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> [GuS] : so it's not recognized by all?
[09:46] <pierre_> hi
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> [GuS] : i think you may have to reconfigure you locales
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> i believe
[09:47] <htraki> Update manager is 4 gnome,but I have adept
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> htraki: from the command line
[09:47] <[GuS] > i dont think is locale problem... but i will look the link
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> open up konsole
[09:47] <[GuS] > my character looks fine
[09:48] <[GuS] > is keyboard problem.... about xkb... not locales
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> [GuS] : that was my problem once when my system couldn't do my keyboard
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> [GuS] : have you checked out /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc, there is a xkb section in there
[09:49] <[GuS] > yes, is perfectly configured
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> but i might be making that up
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm that's tricky
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> unfortunetly i have a meeting that I need to go to right now
[09:50] <[GuS] > ...
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> [GuS] : you have your own xmodmap ?
[09:51] <_seth> /
[09:52] <[GuS] > yes h3sp4wn
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> [GuS] : tried using xkeycaps ? (if anything it will just give you a basic template which you can re add your own customisations to)
[09:52] <[GuS] > mm
[09:52] <[GuS] > ok... but my question is.. why that happen after edgy upgrades?
[09:53] <h3sp4wn> edgy was intended to have a few rough edges
[09:53] <[GuS] > which is the packages that represents /etc/X11/xkb ?
[09:53] <h3sp4wn> (if perfection is important use dapper)
[09:53] <[GuS] > i mean, to reinstall it an regenerate all the conf
[09:53] <[GuS] > no no h3sp4wn  not in all workstation this is happening... so, no.
[09:53] <luxus> hello, how can i improve the preformance of my usb-drive?
[09:54] <roycebarber> After Installing my ATI Video Driver; do I need to REBOOT?
[09:55] <cps1966> no
[09:55] <cellofellow> anybody know how to auto-identify to nickserv?
[09:55] <jerp> whew! 382 update files, I be I'll have to defrag this machine tonight......
[09:55] <roycebarber> My Video Is Still Jerky. I Dont Think The Video Driver Worked
[09:55] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  many irc clients have a setting for it.
[09:55] <jerp> be=bet
[09:55] <LjL> cellofellow: yes, File, Server List, Edit, Command
[09:55] <cps1966> roycebarber:  just ctrl alt backspace
[09:55] <LjL> cellofellow: and put "/msg nickserv identify password" there
[09:55] <jerp> *snickers*
[09:55] <cellofellow> LjL: thankd
[09:55] <LjL> the password is gonna be stored in the clear, mind you
[09:56] <h3sp4wn> [GuS] : well compare a working one to a broken one then
[09:56] <[GuS] > ok...
[09:56] <[GuS] > yes, indeed i will
[09:56] <BluesKaj> why doesn't kubuntu (both dapper and Edgy )  apply my screensaver settings after I set them ?
[09:56] <cellofellow> LjL: which version of konversation was that for?
[09:56] <[GuS] > but... someone knows which is the name of the packages to reinstall /etc/X11/xkb _
[09:56] <[GuS] > ?
[09:57] <LjL> cellofellow: the one in edgy
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu doesn't see my scanner either
[09:57] <LjL> cellofellow: aka 1.0.1
[09:57] <cellofellow> LjL: figured it out anyways
[09:57] <cellofellow> LjL: thanks
[09:58] <royce> Ok well I did the CTRL ALT Backspace. It logged me out. well i logged back in and my video driver works Much Faster now. but....the pixels distort when i move a window.
[09:58] <royce> I have to refresh the window to clean up distorted pixels.
[09:58] <BonBonTheJon> I need some help
[09:58] <BluesKaj> is there a hardware/devices scan program in kubuntu ?
[09:58] <cellofellow> BonBonTheJon: with what?
[09:59] <BonBonTheJon> I upgraded to edgy and xorg isn't working
[09:59] <cellofellow> BonBonTheJon: no X?
[09:59] <BonBonTheJon> cellofellow: I have packages (xorg stuff) that didn't upgrade
[09:59] <BonBonTheJon> cellofellow: yeah
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> BonBonTheJon: sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver~i
[10:00] <BonBonTheJon> h3sp4wn: ok, I'll try that
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> BonBonTheJon: they you should be able to dist-upgrade and have it complete
[10:01] <BonBonTheJon> h3sp4wn: I'm in irssi, what do you have at the end of the aptitude line
[10:02] <cellofellow> I dist-upgraded yesterday, and then rebooted the computer this morning and nothing had changed. dist-upgrade again and it says it has to download the whole thing again. It then says it downloaded the whole thing in like two seconds and started installing.
[10:02] <h3sp4wn> BonBonTheJon: ~i
[10:02] <BonBonTheJon> cellofellow: It downloaded and setup everything, or so I thought
[10:02] <BonBonTheJon> h3sp4wn: is that tilde i
[10:02] <cellofellow> BonBonTheJon: just as a help, install gpm so you can use the mouse to copy and past in the shell.
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> BonBonTheJon: Is that what its called maybe it is
[10:03] <[GuS] > h3sp4wn, look what i have in xorg: (EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm
[10:03] <cellofellow> h3sp4wn: no, it's not X, its a special mouse thing
[10:03] <cellofellow> !gpm
[10:03] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB
[10:03] <BonBonTheJon> h3sp4wn: the skwiggily line is tilde
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> BonBonTheJon: cool
[10:03] <[GuS] > (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
[10:04] <h3sp4wn> cellofellow: I know what gpm is (but I think the cut and paste in screen is far superior)
[10:04] <cellofellow> h3sp4wn: I tried it and never could figure it out.
[10:04] <BonBonTheJon> its removing the xorg drivers, I'll try a dist-upgrade
[10:05] <royce> Resolution: My Video Driver didnt like my huge red mouse cursor. So i changed the mouse cursor. All Is Well! Thank you Everyone!!!
[10:05] <BonBonTheJon> Yay, its downloading, hopefully it will work
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> cellofellow: ctrl a [ (select the text with space beginning and end) and ctrl a ]
[10:06] <BonBonTheJon> anyone know how to get rid of the broadcom bcm43** driver
[10:06] <pelle> how do I: "NOTE: Kubuntu/Xubuntu users will need to uncomment (remove the # before the word "deb") all the additional sources as well as add the automatix repository." ?
[10:07] <LjL> !automatix | pelle
[10:07] <ubotu> pelle: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[10:07] <poopybutt> how do i update the kmenu after i install a program?  i know update-menus works in debian.  does that still work in kubuntu?
[10:09] <Martijn81> poopybutt: tried running kbuildsycoca?
[10:10] <inteliwasp> what is the exact command to reconfigure X?
[10:10] <Nox_ville> hey ppl.. ive got a network card on KWiFiManager and it finds networks but wont let me connect to one.. the "Switch to network" button is ghosted out and "Out of Range" is displayed.. even though i know the network is in range.... please help
[10:10] <royce> I too love Edge, after I got the Freakin video driver installed!
[10:11] <Martijn81> inteliwasp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:11] <royce> Edgy that is.
[10:11] <poopybutt> inteliwasp: ctrl alt backspace?
[10:11] <poopybutt> oh that
[10:11] <royce> What the heck does CRTL ALT Backspace do??? Its what got my video driver to work. but what does it do?
[10:11] <poopybutt> restarts x
[10:11] <royce> Oh.
[10:12] <poopybutt> x needs a restart for settings to update like resolution and stuff
[10:12] <royce> I'm celebrating Edgy and my video driver success with a tall wine glass filled with mountain dew!
[10:13] <Agravain> oh, goody, more people than me had that restart xorg to make it work bug?
[10:13] <felixjet> do anyone have a little guide of imagemagick to resize batch files via script
[10:13] <felixjet> ?
[10:13] <Russel> hiho
[10:14] <Martijn81> lohi
[10:14] <Agravain> felixjet: for file in *.jpg; do convert -size 1024x768 $file $file-small.jpg;done # mini-howto
[10:14] <Russel> i have a problem: sometime i get heavy disk usage (perhaps swap) and no response from the system... after some time it is gone (this time it killed a process)
[10:14] <Russel> is anything known about a memory leak in edgy?
[10:15] <felixjet> thanks Agravain
[10:15] <felixjet> do you know how to use the max value of H and W to a certain value?
[10:16] <felixjet> i mean, convert the max value (height/weigh) to a specific and the other resize at same %
[10:16] <sorush20> finally I'm in the gui x
[10:16] <felixjet> if not ill just read the entire guide of --help xD
[10:16] <Agravain> felixjet: nope, don't remember much of the syntax, I'm afraid, but maybe you could use the output of identify to get the original resolution
[10:16] <Homer> I LOVE LINUX
[10:16] <MetaMorfoziS> i have installed simple x86 edgy for a dualcore 64bit intel processor, can i fix this without any reisntall?
[10:17] <royce> Homer...I'm right there with you.
[10:17] <Agravain> so, where can I read more about this my display is screwed up until I restart Xorg - bug?
[10:18] <royce> agravain did you install some drivers that naturally required a restart? in which case is it really a bug?
[10:19] <BonBonTheJon> I am still having problems, it says it can't lock the authority locking file
[10:20] <MukiEX> Issue in Edgy : Under the crystal theme, the side window border doesn't hide on maximize.
[10:20] <Nox_ville> how do i let mp3's play in amarok?
[10:20] <LjL> !mp3 > Nox_ville
[10:21] <royce> Does anyone have a quick sollution to getting FrostWire to run? It ignores me when i try to open it. So I dragged the Shortcut into Terminal and it says "Denied".
[10:21] <MukiEX> Is there any sort of fix at the moment for that?
[10:21] <Agravain> royce: nope, this happened after booting the live cd and also after boot of default install
[10:22] <MetaMorfoziS> Pe
[10:22] <MetaMorfoziS> only the kernel is the difference between 32bit and 64bit edgy?
[10:22] <cps1966> no
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> what else?
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> so i need a fullreisntall if i installed wrong version?
[10:23] <cps1966> packages
[10:23] <RawSewage> how is 85 frames/sec
[10:23] <RawSewage> is that good
[10:23] <RawSewage> oh I see
[10:23] <RawSewage> that means 85 MHz
[10:23] <RawSewage> I mean 85 Hz
[10:23] <pielgrzym> could somebody politely explain me why this total flaw and shit called edgy on a clean install suddenly stopped detecting my network card? and why the idiots did't put native support for lvm?
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> cps can i do the change without reinstall?
[10:24] <cps1966> MetaMorfoziS:  no
[10:24] <Agravain> pielgrzym: maybe the alternate or server installers contain support for lvm
[10:24] <pielgrzym> it doesnt
[10:24] <pielgrzym> fortunately it's only two small packages
[10:24] <Agravain> pielgrzym: hmm.. that's surprising
[10:25] <Karol84PL> Hello, does anyone know any mirror of http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper repo? There's a problem with connection with that one.
[10:25] <yango> has anyone had any trouble with the upgrade?
[10:25] <pielgrzym> the question is: what's dumber: to use 488kb to install lvm support or maybe to put another shitty kde theme :[
[10:25] <BonBonTheJon> yango: I'm having trouble right now
[10:25] <pielgrzym> but my main concern is
[10:25] <yango> BonBonTheJon: what kind fo trouble?
[10:25] <Agravain> yango: yeah, it broke emacs here
[10:25] <pielgrzym> wtf happened to my network card?
[10:25] <BonBonTheJon> yango: xorg is messed up
[10:25] <Spudchat> hey everybody, im having a hard time installing a second monitor on my laptop, it works fine until the nvidia driver kicks in, then i only get a picture on the attached monitor. i just want the new monitor to be my primary monitor intead of the laptop's monitor
[10:26] <yango> good to know :) will wait a couple of weeks then
[10:26] <Agravain> Spudchat: read up on nvidia twinview, it
[10:26] <pielgrzym> dapper live cd detects the card perfectly - edgy, after installing home from dapper install stopped detecting ANY network interfaces aparat from loopback
[10:26] <Agravain> Spudchat: read up on nvidia twinview, it's easy to configure
[10:26] <Spudchat> ok thanks
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> so not any solution to change 32bit installation to 64 without reisntall:((
[10:26] <cps1966> nope
[10:27] <Agravain> Spudchat: nvidia has its own way of dealing with multiple monitors (twinview), so the general guides (xinerama) doesn't apply
[10:27] <Agravain> pielgrzym: yeah, that's too bad... what kinda nic is it?
[10:27] <BonBonTheJon> anyone know how to troubleshoot xorg
[10:28] <Nox_ville> Ljl: ive got a wireless network card, ive set sudo iwlist ath0 essid hpsetup (the access point name) then sudo dhclient.. i only get an ipv6 address but i need a ipv4 one... please help
[10:28] <LjL> Nox_ville: i don't have wireless
[10:28] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: I had a problem with xorg on edgy, that was resolved by restarting xorg before logging in, that's ctrl-alt-backspace to restart
[10:28] <reagleBRKLN> im in NY, which deb src should i use for edgy upgrade?
[10:28] <pielgrzym> Agravain: nic?
[10:28] <reagleBRKLN> us.archive ~30kB/s
[10:28] <Agravain> pielgrzym: network interface card
[10:29] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: I restarted the computer and xorg won't come up
[10:29] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: even startx doesnt work
[10:29] <royce> Should we give Edgy some slack for being new... Or should we bag on it for being a "stable" version that doesnt support enough drivers. I love it, dont get me wrong. It's just... Sigh. I'm used to windows. Dont be mad at me : )
[10:29] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: oh.. and you have been making changes to xorg.conf?
[10:29] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: I try to reconfigure and it says its not fully installed or something
[10:30] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: you run dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[10:30] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, whats the difference
[10:30] <MetaMorfoziS> em64t is the intel's 64bit architecture?
[10:30] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: that was what I meant
[10:30] <MetaMorfoziS> so i need that if ia have 64bit intelproc
[10:30] <pielgrzym> Agravain: in dapper it's eth0, edgy live cd sees it as eth1
[10:30] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: what message do you get?
[10:30] <RawSewage> !beryl
[10:30] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:31] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: it says its broken or not fully installed
[10:31] <Agravain> pielgrzym: yes.. that's annoying..
[10:31] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:31] <royce> On YouTube I saw a Window effect that 'Wobbled' the window when you move it. It was graphically impressive. Does anyone know what its called.
[10:31] <pielgrzym> Agravain: yup, that's dramatic :( don't want such kubuntu :(
[10:32] <Agravain> pielgrzym: it's a problem with the linux kernel in certain versions, not ubuntu only
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> pielgrzym: use ifrename
[10:32] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: it didnt do anything
[10:32] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: okay, then I don't know
[10:33] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: thanks, anyone else have any ideas
[10:33] <h3sp4wn> pielgrzym: then you can specify in /etc/iftab devicemappings by mac address
[10:34] <pielgrzym> h3sp4wn: could you give me more hint about this?
[10:34] <BonBonTheJon> is it safe to delete .Xauthority
[10:34] <jerp> let's say you got a file with a big name and you don't want to type that name out; is there a shortcut?
[10:34] <BonBonTheJon> jerp: tab key
[10:35] <jerp> bonbon, ahh, cool
[10:35] <jerp> thanks
[10:35] <BonBonTheJon> what permissions should ~/.Xauthority have
[10:35] <jerp> I have an update for my video card on a 64-bit
[10:36] <pupeno_> Hello.
[10:36] <pupeno_> We have two networks here with a router in the middle. There are SMB servers in both of them and everybody, from Windows, can access any of them. But I can access only the ones on my network. Do I have to do anything special to access those in the other network ?
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> pielgrzym: man 5 iftab (once its installed)
[10:36] <roycebarber> I'm going to ask again. Does anyone know the program that 'wobbles' or 'jiggles' the window when you move it.
[10:36] <pielgrzym> h3sp4wn: thanks
[10:36] <LjL> !xgl > roycebarber
[10:36] <lupine_85> roycebarber: beryl
[10:36] <lupine_85> it's a whole replacement window manager, though ;)
[10:36] <roycebarber> TY
[10:36] <Agravain> pupeno_: yes, look at winipcfg or ipconfig /all in windows, and note the wins server ip
[10:37] <Agravain> pupeno_: then config your linux machine to use that wins server for name lookups
[10:37] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: can you check what permissions you ~/.Xauthority has
[10:37] <Agravain> pupeno_: wins is necessary to look up names outside your c-net in windows
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> pielgrzym: you can get the mac addresses from ip link show (presuming iproute is installed)
[10:37] <pupeno_> Agravain: in /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[10:38] <Agravain> pupeno_: yes
[10:38] <h3sp4wn> pielgrzym: or just bridge netbios between the 2 networks
[10:38] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: yeah, it's 600
[10:38] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: owner:
[10:38] <BonBonTheJon> ?
[10:38] <pielgrzym> h3sp4wn: I use hwaddress in /etc/network/interfaces since I need to have certain mac for my ISP
[10:39] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: 600 means owner has rw, others have nothing
[10:39] <Nox_ville> k.. ppl, how do i get mp3's working in amarok
[10:39] <LjL> !mpe | Nox_ville
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <LjL> !mp3 | Nox_ville
[10:39] <ubotu> Nox_ville: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:39] <Spudchat> lol the twinview worked! now if i could only get them on the right sides  :)
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> pupeno_: if you bridge netbios traffic then it will work also
[10:39] <sredna> Hi
[10:39] <sredna> How do I know my current kubuntu version?
[10:39] <Agravain> Spudchat: congratulations!
[10:39] <LjL> sredna: cat /etc/issue
[10:39] <Nox_ville> Ljl: i tried that...  it now plays mp3's in noatun.. not amarok tho..
[10:39] <LjL> Nox_ville: what did you try exactly?
[10:40] <sredna> Nox_ville: Thanks :)
[10:40] <Agravain> Nox_ville: just install libxine-extracodecs
[10:40] <Nox_ville> sredna: ?
[10:41] <BonBonTheJon> Agravain: who is the owner of .Xauthority?
[10:41] <pupeno_> Agravain: I did that, but I still can't connect. What else do I have to do ?
[10:41] <Agravain> 198 packages downloaded.. %198.. % apt one down install it around ..
[10:41] <pupeno_> h3sp4wn: you mean on the router ?
[10:41] <Agravain> BonBonTheJon: you are, the user in questions
[10:41] <Nox_ville> Agravain: ive done that.. amarok still doens't play mp3's tho...
[10:41] <sredna> Nox_ville: Sorry, that was someone else
[10:42] <sredna> LjL: Thanks
[10:42] <LjL> Nox_ville: have you closed it (*closed* it - not just sent it to the tray) and reopened it?
[10:42] <Agravain> pupeno_: hmm.. you set wins-server in the smb.conf?
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> pupeno_: yep (it can be done by an intelligent switch also)
[10:42] <sredna> I attempt to upgrade to edgy
[10:42] <sredna> Though installing amarok isn't really on my wishlist :\
[10:43] <pupeno_> h3sp4wn: but it works for others, so, I prefeer not to touch that router.
[10:43] <pupeno_> Agravain: yes.
[10:43] <sredna> And vim is definately not
[10:43] <Nox_ville> Ljl: thanks.. it now works...
[10:44] <sredna> But I can remove those again later
[10:44] <bLaZeD> anyone here know why i cant install mplayer?...im running edgy.....and i think i have all my repos set up correctly
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: PLF usually has an uncrippled mplayer (with everything enabled)
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> !PLF
[10:45] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[10:45] <pupeno_> Agravain: any way to troubleshoot ?
[10:45] <bLaZeD> i was having issues with there mirror
[10:45] <bLaZeD> it would itme out and stuff
[10:45] <Agravain> pupeno_: yes... with smbclient
[10:46] <Agravain> pupeno_: are you connecting using kde/konqueror or smbclient?
[10:46] <bLaZeD> yea i still cant axx there site
[10:46] <BonBonTheJon> how can I force a reinstall of xorg
[10:46] <pupeno_> Agravain: I tried both. smbclient said: Connection to MAI failed.
[10:46] <bLaZeD> Resolving packages.freecontrib.org... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
[10:47] <kay> hello someone knows a good program to make gif (fast and easy) (no gimp plz)
[10:47] <bLaZeD> this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ulteo.us/188
[10:47] <Nox_ville> how can i change the style of my pc from plastik to another one?
[10:47] <BonBonTheJon> kay: kpaint
[10:48] <kay> BonBonTheJon:  THX
[10:48] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: so you can either build mplayer from source - try to build the debian-multimedia source or try to use the one from the repos (which has less features enabled)
[10:48] <aseigo> kolourpaint
[10:48] <Agravain> pupeno_: okey, smbclient -L <host on that other network> results in that message?
[10:48] <kay> aseigo: THX
[10:48] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, it wont install
[10:48] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, id be happry with the same mplayer dapper had
[10:49] <otaku-san> BonBonTheJon: Hey man!
[10:49] <pupeno_> Agravain: list of shares and list of servers.
[10:49] <BonBonTheJon> otaku-san: hi
[10:49] <BonBonTheJon> otaku-san: you have any idea how to force a reinstall of xorg
[10:49] <CVirus> I upgraded from dapper to edgy and now when I cat /proc/cpuinfo ... I see this cpu MHz         : 1000.000 instead of cpu MHz         : 1600.000 with dapper .. although i'm using the generic kernel .. what could be wrong ?
[10:50] <pupeno_> Trying to create an encrypted file system with "cryptsetup -y create crypt /dev/hda3
[10:50] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: you have the options choose 1 and do it (maybe you just don't have all repositories enabled)
[10:50] <Nox_ville> who can help me with wifi networking ??? i really desparatly need help>>!!!
[10:50] <pupeno_> Trying to create an encrypted file system with "cryptsetup -y create crypt /dev/hda3" I've got the error: Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.07 (2006-05-11)(compat) and kernel driver. What am I doing wrong ?
[10:50] <otaku-san> BonBonTheJon: no idea....you update to edgy?
[10:50] <BonBonTheJon> otaku-san: yeah, and xorg is funked up
[10:50] <kay> aseigo: can you help how i do it?
[10:51] <otaku-san> BonBonTheJon: it seems that's happening alot in edgy
[10:51] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/189  thoese are the only mplayers i have availibe...and mplayer wont install neither will mplayer-363
[10:51] <BonBonTheJon> otaku-san: not good, I'm thinking the best approach is to back up and do a clean install
[10:51] <otaku-san> BonBonTheJon: sorry I couldn't help...you try to google it?
[10:51] <bLaZeD> *386
[10:51] <BonBonTheJon> otaku-san: its hard googling in lynx
[10:51] <lupine_85>  if X is borken after an update to edgy, make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed
[10:52] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, switching to the 'vesa' driver is probably going to work as a temporary solution
[10:52] <otaku-san> BonBonTheJon: ahhhh....why do you use lynx?
[10:52] <cps1966> lupine_85:  try kubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <BonBonTheJon> otaku-san: text web browser
[10:53] <aseigo> kay: if it isn't installed, go into adept and search for kolourpaint ... install it and then run it from the k menu
[10:53] <lupine_85> oh... yep, sorry
[10:53] <CVirus> is it safe to apt-get remove klaptopdaemon after I ugraded to edgy ?
[10:53] <lupine_85> I tyhought this was #ubuntu :D
[10:53] <otaku-san> BonBonTheJon: no I know what it is ;) why do you use it tho'?
[10:53] <jerp> I did a .run file in the "run program" under "Applications" in Xfce, what are the odds on that getting installed?
[10:53] <h3sp4wn> lupine_85: or remove all of xserver-xorg-driver~i (and install xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all)
[10:53] <kay> i did
[10:53] <kay> i have installed it
[10:53] <kay> but how do i make a gif in it
[10:53] <lupine_85> that too, I guess
[10:53] <jerp> ...hey, I'm a newb
[10:53] <kay> i know it in gimp
[10:54] <ariadm> gimp is good
[10:54] <lupine_85> btw, has anyone experienced KDE being ultra-fast in edgy?
[10:54] <willzzz> i'm trying to fix my dependency problems but i get: dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 1611 package `libvorbisfile3':
[10:54] <willzzz>  field name `Sourcm;' must be followed by colon
[10:54] <willzzz> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[10:54] <Nox_ville> who can help me with wifi networking ??? i really desparatly need help>>!!!
[10:54] <willzzz> it the libvorbisfile3 screwed up on dapper?
[10:54] <BonBonTheJon> Nox_ville: whats the problem
[10:54] <lupine_85> it's really weird - my laptop (usually running at 300MHz + 128MB RAM) goes like the clappers
[10:54] <lupine_85> Nox_ville: what card/chipset?
[10:55] <pupeno_> Agravain: smbtree shows: cli_start_connection: failed to connect to MAI<20> (<IP_ADDRESS>).
[10:55] <Nox_ville> its an onboard atheros ar5212 on a hp nw8000 laptop
[10:55] <lupine_85> so you're using the madwifi drivers ... what error are you getting
[10:56] <kay> aseigo: installation is not the problem the problem is how to make a gif in it
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> lupine_85: maybe now you appreciate how broken kde in dapper is
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> lupine_85: (that is what it should be like anyway - is in kanotix / debian etc etc)
[10:57] <Nox_ville> well no error really.. im sudo iwlist ath0 (my wireless) essid hpsetup (the access point) then sudo dhclient but i get only a ipv6 ip address not a ipv4.. so i can't ping any ipv4 machines... i.e. this one
[10:57] <lupine_85> hehe maybe
[10:57] <Agravain> pupeno_: enable more debug?
[10:57] <lupine_85> Nox_ville: is the wireless card associating to the AP ?
[10:57] <psychiccyberfrea> anyone having a problem with the repositories and apt?
[10:57] <BonBonTheJon> h3sp4wn: that did it, I installed xorg and it works
[10:57] <lupine_85> e.g. when you run iwconfig does it like a MAC addresss for the AP
[10:58] <Nox_ville> lupine_85: it says access point not asscociated...
[10:58] <Nox_ville> psychiccyberfrea: how do i check?
[10:58] <lupine_85> ok. does "sudo iwlist ath0 scan" list the AP?
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> BonBonTheJon: Thought it might (same thing as has been needed throughout the edgy unstable cycle - I would have thought some transitional packages could have been done - I think the only officially supported way is with the upgrade manager)
[10:59] <Agravain> pupeno_: try to find out if it really uses the wins-server
[10:59] <Nox_ville> lupine_85: yes.. all 4 possible networks...
[10:59] <Agravain> pupeno_: I don't have any other ideas
[11:00] <lupine_85> ok - run sudo iwconfig ath0 ap <ap's MAC address>
[11:00] <aseigo> kay: hmm... interesting that it doesn't list that as an export option in kubuntu's packages.. not sure what's up there
[11:00] <lupine_85> the MAC address is listed in the results of iwlist ath0 scan
[11:00] <kay> aseigo:  ok dude I HAVE INSTALLED IT ALREADY BUT HOW MAKE I A GIVE IN THE PROGRAM??????????
[11:01] <Nox_ville> yes
[11:01] <Nox_ville> @lupine
[11:01] <bLaZeD> i now changed my sources.list to this.... http://pastebin.ulteo.us/190   and ran sudo apt-get update..but its trying to update a repo that isnt in the list anymore...its still trying to update http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org
[11:01] <kay> aseigo: HOW MAKE I A GIF IN IT????
[11:01] <psychiccyberfrea> anyone having a problem with the repositories and apt?
[11:01] <aseigo> kay: usually you'd find it as an option in the dialog under File -> Export
[11:01] <pupeno_> Agravain: it seems wins resolving is failing: http://paste.lisp.org/display/28815
[11:01] <kay> k thx
[11:01] <ariadm> kay; why don't you do it with gimp? (or i'm just missed something...)
[11:02] <aseigo> kay: and yes, i understand what you're asking. calm down. jesus
[11:02] <kay> aseigo: i am sorry...
[11:02] <kay> aseigo: but you know what a gif it?
[11:02] <Nox_ville> lupine_85: any ideas?
[11:02] <Agravain> pupeno_: sorry, I'm all out of ideas
[11:03] <sorush20> hi has anyone here got beethere ?
[11:03] <aseigo> kay: i assume you're refering to the image format. which was until quite recently encumbered by patents held by unisys.
[11:03] <sorush20> wrong channel.
[11:03] <kay> aseigo: i dont want to save a pic as gif i wanan do 62 pics to make one gif
[11:04] <aseigo> kay: an animated gif?
[11:04] <kay> aseigo: sure
[11:04] <kay> aseigo: yes
[11:04] <aseigo> lol ... saying so from the start would've helped.
[11:04] <lupine_85> Nox_ville: [21:58]  <lupine_85> ok - run sudo iwconfig ath0 ap <ap's MAC address>
[11:04] <psychiccyberfrea> each layer is a 'frame' in the gimp, so when you export it as a gif it will do that
[11:05] <bLaZeD> k somthing is defianltly wrong......ive compleatly changed my sources.list.....and its still trying to update a mirror that isnt in my sources.list anymore
[11:05] <kay> aseigo: ok know we know what i want and now i have a progam i could realy need but how can i make now an animation gif?
[11:06] <kay> couldn't*
[11:06] <aseigo> kay: only one i know of off-hand is the gimp
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: or play with wlanconfig (you can have upto 4 interfaces per card with madwifi -ng (3 ap's with different ssid's / bssid's and 1 client pretty cool)
[11:06] <psychiccyberfrea> kwrita is another I think
[11:06] <psychiccyberfrea> anyone having a problem with the repositories and apt?
[11:06] <bLaZeD> bah brb
[11:06] <kay> aseigo: hm... i guess but it is not the easyiest way to do a gif
[11:06] <bLaZeD> psychiccyberfrea, yea i am
[11:06] <psychiccyberfrea> ok I'm not going crazy
[11:07] <Nox_ville> lupine_85: done.. now what
[11:07] <Nox_ville> h3sp4wn: whats that
[11:07] <willzzz> does anyone know any faster mirrors except for the us.archive.ubuntu.com ones?
[11:07] <Nox_ville> !wlanconfig
[11:08] <willzzz> their running really slow for me... probbaly because of the upgrade rush
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlanconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: the madwifi config utility
[11:08] <LjL> willzzz, depends on your location. try se. or hr.
[11:08] <lupine_85> Nox_ville: hopefully you now have internet
[11:08] <willzzz> i'm in the us, so it's the closest one to me...
[11:08] <willzzz> i'm saying any other ones
[11:08] <cps1966> willzzz:  try cz ones
[11:08] <lupine_85> does iwconfig show the access point as being associated?
[11:09] <jhutchins_wk> I can't get X to start after upgrading to edgy.
[11:09] <CVirus> !upgrade
[11:09] <ubotu> For upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this URL in the channel topic: type "/topic")
[11:09] <ariadm> kay; -> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/1664.html
[11:09] <aseigo> kay: indeed it's not. here: http://www.tjhsst.edu/~dhyatt/supercomp/n401a.html
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: wlanconfig ath0 destroy; wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta; wlanconfig ath1 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode ap (that sort of stuff)
[11:09] <jhutchins_wk> What does it mean when apt-get says 'the following packages have been kept back'
[11:10] <Nox_ville> h3sp4wn: where can i get it?
[11:10] <aseigo> kay: imagemagick is neat =)
[11:10] <willzzz> found one... a local uni has a mirror that's ALOT faster =)
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: Is it not already installed ?
[11:10] <Nox_ville> i don't have it installed
[11:10] <Nox_ville> no..
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> jhutchins_wk: it has an updateable candidate but it isn't going to be installed iirc
[11:10] <kay> aseigo:  ii search for it thx man
[11:10] <fdoving> jhutchins_wk: ofen means they are not installed because it has to remove some packages before installing.
[11:10] <Nox_ville> link please.. (i got no internet on the linux box)
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> python packages are being help back in Edgy for some reason (also iirc)
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: madwifi.net (but its part of madwifi)
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> !find wlanconfig
[11:11] <ubotu> Package/file wlanconfig does not exist in dapper
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> !find wlanconfig edgy
[11:11] <kay> aseigo:  found it you mean this can help me?
[11:11] <jhutchins_wk> So how do I get around it?  X wasn't upgraded and now won't run.
[11:11] <ubotu> Package/file wlanconfig does not exist in edgy
[11:11] <fdoving> jhutchins: step 6. at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade explains how to install them.
[11:11] <Nox_ville> h3sp4wn: ive got dapper anyway
[11:11] <aseigo> kay: did you read the link?
[11:11] <luxus> anyone know a good ftp client? with a nice featureset
[11:12] <aseigo> kay: because if you do, i think you'll have your answer
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: forget what I said then
[11:12] <kay> aseigo: what link?
[11:12] <lupine_85> "ftp" :)
[11:12] <kay> aseigo: lol i search with apt-cache
[11:12] <aseigo> [15:10]  <aseigo> kay: indeed it's not. here: http://www.tjhsst.edu/~dhyatt/supercomp/n401a.html
[11:12] <luxus> anyone know a good ftp client with graphical interface ? with a nice featureset
[11:13] <Ace2016> which should i install? azureus or azureus-gcj ???
[11:13] <kay> aseigo: damn THX i am in your fault
[11:13] <Nox_ville> so WTF must i do?
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> luxus: Why graphical (most of the most featureful ftp clients are text only)
[11:13] <aseigo> luxus: kftpgrabber? kbear?
[11:14] <aseigo> luxus: http://www.kde-apps.org/?xcontentmode=236
[11:14] <kay> aseigo: the funny is it seems to me i have it already on my pc :-(
[11:14] <aseigo> kay: even easier then =)
[11:14] <ariadm> oh my jessus.......
[11:14] <kay> aseigo: again thx
[11:14] <jhutchins_wk> fdoving: Thanks,looks like I needed step 5 as well.
[11:14] <luxus> sorry for the stupid questions ;D i use gnome for years ;D
[11:15] <fdoving> jhutchins_wk: you're welcome :)
[11:15] <aseigo> kay: perhaps someone should write a small gui app that uses convert in the background ... call it something -obvious- like "kanimatedgif" ;)
[11:16] <fdoving> luxus: kftpgrabber and kasablanca are in the universe repository. you can get then with adept easily.
[11:16] <Agravain> konver:)
[11:16] <Agravain> konvert even
[11:16] <tahim> someone can tell me where I can find the md5sum for kubuntu 6.10??
[11:16] <kay> aseigo: llol
[11:16] <luxus> fdoving: yeah thanks i allready tested both i think kftpgrabber will do the job
[11:16] <Ace2016> from what i've found there seems to be a performance gain in using azureus-gcj is that right?
[11:16] <fdoving> tahim: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/MD5SUMS
[11:17] <fdoving> tahim: signature: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/MD5SUMS.gpg
[11:17] <fdoving> tahim: ops, that was ubuntu, not kubuntu.. hang on.
[11:17] <Nox_ville> can some1 help me set up wireless please.
[11:17] <tahim> thanks
[11:17] <tahim> I can't find for kubuntu
[11:17] <fdoving> tahim: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.10/MD5SUMS and MD5SUMS.gpg
[11:17] <tahim> just for ubuntu
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (iwlist ath0 scan is working) so just follow that document and it will work
[11:18] <esben> Evening people :) Anyone know where to get debootstrap thing for kubuntu egde? Or can I use the ubuntu one these days?
[11:18] <tahim> thanks...
[11:18] <Ace2016> AHH!!! how come i only see 4 folders in /    and i created two of them, the others are media and home
[11:18] <Ace2016> are they hidden?
[11:19] <Nox_ville> can some1 help me set up wireless please.
[11:19] <Ace2016> i'm in kdesu konqueror
[11:19] <Ace2016> where did bin and stuff go? hidden?
[11:19] <fdoving> Ace2016: yes, they are hidden. view -> show hidden files
[11:19] <Agravain> interesting.
[11:19] <Ace2016> what the
[11:19] <Ace2016> how come files not starting with "." are hidden?
[11:19] <ubuntu_> hi...I'm having some problems installing kubuntu
[11:19] <esben> Ace2016: It's a convention thing
[11:20] <LjL> !hidden-root | Ace2016
[11:20] <ubotu> Ace2016: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> Ace2016: In edgy ?
[11:20] <Ace2016> h3sp4wn: yup
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> Ace2016: same reason they are in windows
[11:21] <Ace2016> I like it, its nice, now i can make folders in / for myself
[11:21] <ubuntu_> I already have 9gb in linux partition and 2gb in swap..but kubuntu doesn't detect it
[11:21] <ubuntu_> what can I do?
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: mount it
[11:21] <ubuntu_> how..I'm in live cd mode
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: mount /dev/whatever /mnt
[11:22] <ubuntu_> it gives me "only root can do that"
[11:22] <Nox_ville> greets
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: use sudo then
[11:23] <Nox_ville> help me please set up wifi
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: prefix sudo the command
[11:23] <ubuntu_> but what's the password?
[11:23] <LjL> !root > ubuntu_
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: maybe ubuntu - or shouldn't be one in the live cd
[11:24] <LjL> h3sp4wn: no password in the live cd, you just need to use sudo
[11:24] <ubuntu_> but only this option I have from the bootable cd
[11:24] <esben> Can I use debootstrap to make a base installation of ubuntu, and then switch the repositories to Kubuntu egde? Would that work?
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> esben: deboostrap edgy directly
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> esben: the repos are the same
[11:25] <ubuntu_> i'm not really an expert :) how do I do that?
[11:25] <Nox_ville> PLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEE help me set up wifi
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: Read that document I told you anything you don't understand but need help / doesn't work etc means nothing and is a waste of time
[11:25] <esben> h3sp4wn: Great, thanks!
[11:26] <ubuntu_> oh...and it gives me also an error when launching qtparted
[11:26] <Y2J> hi there, i need some help !
[11:26] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: use the alternative cd
[11:27] <ubuntu_> what alternative cd?..I've downloaded the iso from a website
[11:27] <ubuntu_> It's all that I got
[11:27] <Nox_ville> h3sp4wn: ive read that flooping doc 30 times... still won't connect to a network
[11:27] <Y2J> ihm..any help, please ?!
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: I don't believe you - I know for a fact madwifi will work on dapper exactly according to that doc
[11:28] <Nox_ville> madwifi drivers load but then wtf?
[11:28] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: and the fact that iwlist ath0 scan is working means that the driver is definately working
[11:28] <Nox_ville> its not the flooping driver thats the problem.. its the connecting to a network....
[11:28] <Nox_ville> jc
[11:28] <Nox_ville> !!
[11:28] <Y2J> I just can't find a torrent file for the dc image - DVD torrent is so big and i dunno why !?
[11:28] <some0ne> Nox_ville: Get a better network.
[11:29] <Nox_ville> some0ne: speak when ure spoken to
[11:29] <Nox_ville> some0ne: my network is perfect...
[11:29] <lotusleaf> Y2J: for the kubuntu dvd iso ?
[11:29] <some0ne> Nox_ville: Learn how to spell.
[11:29] <bLaZeD> !restricted
[11:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: The problem is you - not the driver
[11:30] <Y2J> lotusleaf: No, only the ubuntu ..I'm newb in this ubuntu !
[11:30] <Nox_ville> h3sp4wn: thats why i am asking for help!@!!!!
[11:30] <Nox_ville> jc
[11:30] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: so which part of the document don't you understand
[11:30] <lotusleaf> Y2J: what are you looking for, the ubuntu edgy DVD torrent or CD torrent? you're in Kubuntu so I assumed you were interested in Kubuntu with KDE?
[11:30] <Y2J> lotusleaf: i need torrent for cd image cause dvd is so big ? what it's include to be 3GB+ ?
[11:30] <Nox_ville> the part where it is supposed to connect to the network
[11:31] <lotusleaf> Y2J: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: doesn't mean anything
[11:31] <Y2J> lotusleaf: i can't reach ubuntu channel..appears empty right here(chatzilla)
[11:31] <some0ne> Nox_ville: ifconfig ath0 essid <network> enc <key> ; dhclient ath0
[11:31] <lotusleaf> Y2J: try joining again #ubuntu
[11:32] <Nox_ville> k.. i assign all the commands and crap it says but still i don't get a ipv4 address.
[11:32] <Y2J> lotusleaf: thanks , it's working ,, so am i done here?
[11:33] <ubuntu_> ok..I've mounted the drives
[11:33] <lotusleaf> Y2J: I don't know, are you? =)
[11:33] <Nox_ville> h3sp4wn: please give me a step by step guide and ill tell you whats happening here...
[11:33] <ubuntu_> but the qtparted stii doen's works
[11:33] <pielgrzym> h3sp4wn: thanks for tips! somehow edgy put an unexisting mac in iftab :)
[11:33] <jhutchins_wk> There we go!  Nothing like following the directions.
[11:33] <lotusleaf> Y2J: and you're welcome
[11:35] <pielgrzym> I've got a little problem: I installed my dapper home directory to edgy - everything goes fine, exept I don't see the new edgy window decorations in preferences? any ideas? :)
[11:35] <Y2J> lotusleaf: Thanks a lot want to try ubuntu ..i'm fedora friend
[11:35] <Nox_ville> h3sp4wn: please give me a step by step guide and ill tell you whats happening here...
[11:35] <lotusleaf> Y2J: welcome, I hope you enjoy your experiences. =)
[11:36] <Y2J> lotusleaf: i hope too but this DVD takes forever to be done !
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> Nox_ville: I am no longer interested in the problem - as you keep on giving ambiguous statements and for me to help you would be like getting blood out of a stone sorry - ask someone else
[11:36] <lotusleaf> Y2J: then download the CD ISO image of Ubuntu Edgy
[11:37] <Y2J> lotusleaf: for that i need the cd-image cause i think dvd contain the soruce code ?!
[11:37] <lotusleaf> Y2J: we should continue this discussion in #ubuntu, go ahead and ask about it in there please, thanks. =)